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Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
DEAF MUTES TO See
PICTURES OF THE ski
CARPENTER Fight
Especial to The Tribune)

NEW YORK CITY N. Y, Jan. 26-
Damon Runyon, the noted sports writ
er, in writing about the SIKH Carpen-
tier ''frame-up," and the projected
WillsrDempsey match, makes the fol-
lowing comment:
Jack Dempsey is returning East.
On his arrival there will be much
talk of different matches, of bouts
with Willard, or Gibbons, or trips
abroad.
This is excellent publicity. 1t
seems to be forgotten, however, that
Dempsey is definitely signed to meet
Harry Wills, the Negro
"This match, made in good faith,
will be carried out in New York next
summer, if the boxing law is not in
the meantime repealed. The match
cannot be prevented unless all boxing
is prevented.
You will be greatly interested in
the report of the deaf mutes, experts
in lip reading, who will see the NOV
ing pictures of the Carpentier-Siki
fight to read the lips of Des Camps,
Carpenters manager, when Des
Camps visits Skis corner between
rounds.
Some think Carpenters manager
was asking Sikh why he did not '1ay
down. in accordance with the alleged
agreement made before the fight.
This is perhaps true. There seems
to be no other reason for Des Camps
visiting the corner of the Senegalese
when he should have been looking
after his own man.
However, we should like to have
these lip-reading experts see the films
of the WillardJohnson fight at Hav-
ana, to see if they can tell what John
son said to Jack Curley, the promoter,
when Curley visited the Negro in his
corner late in the battle.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

It is said that the Bagget bill has
the support of the leading white citi
zens from all parts of the state, and
that scores of them have indicated
that they will be on hand to defend
the measure at the public hearing
Senator Squires announced to the sen
ate that the measure would be op
posed.
The Bagget bill, which excerpts from
its provisions persons attending hal
lowe'en parties and properly conduct
ed masquerades. and minors under IS
years of age. is one Of the two bills
against the khan now pending in the
general assembly. The other. which
was introduced in the House of Repre-
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
COLORED LAWYER IS
ANXIOUS To fight
Wills And DEMPSEY
Especial to The Tribune)

NEW YORK CITY, N. Y, Jan. 26
The same grit and sterling ele-
ments of character which established
one of the great historical stars of
college football have impelled Paul
Robson to quit an improbable law
practice and go in for professional
prize fighting. 'Law doesn't pay, so
l am going in to fit myself to lick
Harry Wills and then knock Jack
Dempsey into a delirium of oblivion
blacker than Harry's shadow"
Paul Robson, colored football
baseball, and basketball star at Rut-
gers University four years ago, and
American left end in 1918, intends
to follow the latter course.
'Robey'' is lawyer by profession,
but every day in every way business
is getting worse and worse. The
clients simply won't come. And as
Paul is married and has a family, the
necessity of clients is easily seen.
So the big colored star, who weighs
225 pounds and stands feet in
his stocking feet, intends to enter
the ring within the near future to es
tablish himself as the leading colored
heavyweight contender. Harry Wills
and Jack Dempsey are the men Rob
ey' wants to get, and he has not the
slightest doubt as to his ability to
tame the black panther and the art
full lodging white champion.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
BISHOP B.T. TANNER
OF A. M. E. Church
PASSES To REWARD
Especial to The Tribune)


PHILADELPHIA, Pa, Jan. 20
Bishop Benjamin Tucker Tanner. of
the A. M. E. church, died last Sunday.
closing life of SS years of which
81 had been devoted to Christian
work. Old age was the cause of his
death.
Rev. Tanner was elevated to the
bishopric in 1888 and always has
been a conspicuous factor in the af-
fairs, nationally and internationally,
concerning his race; having often
been delegate to conferences across
the waters.
He was the author of many books
concerning religion and the history
of the Negro.
Bishop Tanner was the oldest Bish-
op in the A. NJ e. church and had
been retired, but was ever active in
the Christian cause.
A son, Henry Ossawa Tanner, not
ed artist, is in Paris, and could not
reach home in time for the funeral
but Immediately sailed when informed
of his fathers death. Another son.
Rev. c. M. Tanner, is pastor of the
Big Bethel A. M. E. church at Chi
cago. Three daughters: Mrs. Mary
T. Mossell of Chicago; Mrs. Belle T.
Temple, wife Of presiding elder in
the Pittsburg Conference. and Mrs
Bertha T. Stafford, wife of a st. Louis
Physician, also survive him.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
CONVICTED OF PASSING
RAISED BILLS, OFFERS TO i
PAY FINE WITH ONE

BALTIMORE, Nd, Jan. 26-Wil-
liam Ruth must have been dazed or
believed himself wonderfully shrewd
when he attemFted to pay fine in
traffic court with raised bill.
Ruth was sentenced last Friday in
the United States Court to three years
to the federal prison at Atlanta, Ca,
by Judge Rose after conviction of
passing 81 notes raised to SO. Ac-
cording to the testimony. Ruth passed
several of the raised bills.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
ANTI-kU kLux KHAN BILL
FACES STRONG OPPOSITION
IN NORTH CAROLINA

RALEIGH, N. c.. Jan. 26 - The
strong opposition In the committee on
Judiciary OF the Senate TO the Bagget
bill aimed at the Ku Klux Klan in
this state which makes 1t a felony
punishable by Imprisonment for any
person to appear off his premises dis
guised so as to conceal his identity.
caused the measure to be referred to
a subcommittee and a public hearing
on the bill set for the Senate cham
Der at three o'clock Thursday after
noon.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

This time the change from short
skirts to long skirts has been so abb
rupt that some of the women suspect
they are being tyrannized over.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

sentatives by Representative Milliken.
of Union, provides for the registra-
tion Of the membership of all secret
societies.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
TheKaiser Got SO, 900 for This Photograph
TT HIS is the
Il $4,000


" Ills ID Lno
hon ey-
moon picture OF
the former Ger
man War Lord
a nd his bride.
The thrifty Will
helm took great
care about his
pose. H e is
dressed in the
uniform of a Ger
man q cid mar
shall. W caring
rows of decora-
tious, fingers be-
] e W q ed, one
band. that of the
s h ort er arm,
place d on his
sword. the other
in the arm of the
new bride. Her
mine is wearing
{ he diam IN d
necklace, costing
millions of marks,
W h | C h he spe-
cially ordered for
her shortly before
the wedding. The
K a 8 er's mus
tache is upright
and not dropped;
he wears short
whiskers only.
and his facial ex-
preston 8 b o VS.
very little change
from his pre-war
and wartime pic
lures, beard ex-
repted.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

To have a good appetite, have a
good appetite for your work.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

Do your own thinking and don't
worry much about what "they" think.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27

Because we as group are fewer
n number, We should organize the
more.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
a SQUARE DEAL

This government is based
upon the fundamental idea
that each man, no matter
what his occupation, his race.
or his religious belief, is en-
titled to be treated on his
worth as a man, and neither
favored nor Disseminated
against because Of any acci-
dent in his position.-Theo-
dore Roosevelt.
Phoenix tribune., 1923-01-27
A STRONG CHARACTER

Race prejudice is bound to
give way before the influ-
ence of character, education
wealth. These are ne
40 growth Of our
race. uBr,,.h there
can be no feIs-ql7 e1p,.t
leisure there can De fSD
thought, and without thought
there can be no progress
Booker T. Washington.
Evening star., 1923-05-09
RENT RooMs-sUBURBAN.

1923 GEORGIA AvE.-Furnislled rooms witt
board; home cooking; pleasant rooms; larg,
grounds
Evening star., 1923-05-09
WANTED--OFFICES:

SMALL STUDIO or STUDIO SPACE; FIR j,
uished unfurnshcd Address B"x - :
Star Office.
Evening star., 1923-05-09
u T. CART,EY

GIT f ST. NV. Franklin 6153.
Farm for sale or trade for city property in
the town IF Vienna. Va. about IL miles from
Washington. station and state road. 4
splendid 1O-room house. including furniture:
also large barn and several small buildings:
51a acres of land: several fruit trees. Place
suitable for BOARDING house a chicken farm.
II you are looking for nice home. don't over
look this place. Price. SS. 500; part cash. bal
anre on terms to suit purchaser
p +. CARIEN
Evening star., 1923-05-09
COUNTRY BOARD.
WANTED-C0UNTRY BOARD.

BOARD for blind lady. May 20: within 30
Protestant) adults; needs little attention;
modern conveniences; S13 weekly. A. J. CoDk-
lin. l43 c st. ne, Wash. d. C. Business
: through correspondence. IL
Evening star., 1923-05-09
RENT-DESK SPACE,

DESK SPACE WITH OFFICE SERVICE. ~
cludng desk and chairs Sl5 up BUILDERS
& MANIFACTURINt; EXCHANGE. 4l0 Bond
bldg. Main 1881. Frank. I2s
Evening star., 1923-05-09
RENT HOUsEs-FUR. & UNFUR.

BEAUTIFUL LITTLE HOME IN SOMERSET.
contai lining eight rooms flour bedroomsl and
hath, large screened porch. gas and electric
light, pipeless furnace; large lot; delightful
place for the summer: rental. furnished. S1nn:
unfurnished, $50 per month.
l.. S. FRISTOE
1l1S
Evening star., 1923-05-09
RENT ROOMS-FURN1SHED.

1872 LASIER PL.-Single and double room
Col. 8s32
1925 ath ST. NW.-R0oms for LEX. es
1881 r. N.w.--Two for Ink: also bedroom.
ROOM during Shriners' week. lincoln 8528
Evening star., 1923-05-09
WANTED TO RENT-HOusEs.

AGREEABLE. REFINED COTPI5 DESIRE
inediim size, unfnrnished house. am.i. pleas
anu! located; garden: 80 min. Treasury. very
BOX COS. Star office 1os
LIsI YOUR VACANT HOUSES WITH Us.
we nave many desirable tenants. Rents col
iected and remitted promptly,
y. II. RY0N CO., INC. i4a3 = ST NJ $3.50
INFCRNIsHED OF $ E IN SUBURBS.
from to !, rooms; not over s35; two ~
family. Call, Mrs. AMANTE
Lincoln 3764.
FURNISHED HOUSE BY MAN AND WIFE
practical, neat. ciean object roomers: stats
price. etc Address Box 355-R Star once as
WASTED-T0 RENT BUNGALOW OR 4 on
rooms, Ami. in city or suburbs, by couple:
must be reasonable. North 3441 or 1867 VII
lard ST. NV.
Evening star., 1923-05-09

WILL EXCHANGE GOOD PAYING RETAIL
cigar. candy. newspaper and soda fountai in
store for equity of s2.500 IN good house. NJ
ply LEWIS REALTY CO.. If1T X st. NV
Suite 364-30I
SITUATED ON MARYLAND AVE. NE
near Stanton Square: 3-story brick. having 10
large rooms and bath t6 bedrnumsl large loi
Owner will exchange for home conveniently
located in northwest section.
MADDtX. MARSHALL & CO.. mo.
il0S 18th st. NV.
Main 500 Main sa7I
70 ACRES IMPROVED BY A H-W. HEATED
house: open fireplace: five-room tenant house:
two-story brick pump house: gas engine with
power attachments: extra large bank barlS
30 acres of woodland asparagus bed aud
fruits: one-half mile to trolley: three -fourths
mile to Betsvlle: twelve miles 10 D. e.
Bargain Easy terms.
Morgan +. Morgan & Co.
1i01 y. Y. Ave. NV.
Phone FIR. 1890.
Sunday and Evening Phones FIR. 1851 aud
Evening star., 1923-05-09
ROOMS AND BOARD.

1880 l. ST N.W.-Suite Of two large rooms
and BATH front Of house. we'll furnished, ele.
vator service. excellent food. centrally 10.
catsd available for ladies married couple
and daughter. Apply to manager.
1928 VERMONT AVE. N.W.-Dpsirahle single
room adjoining bath: also an attractively fur
nished room for two. first foor; rates m"der
Evening star., 1923-05-09
oI2 18th St.
113 14th ST. NJ
EVENING STAR BLDG

EVENING STAR BLDG
Offices for rent. Evening Star building ftha
Avenue at 1ltll-One large office on second
floor. with private lavatory and running ice
water This office contains 1890 so. TT has
southern exposure and IS particularly suitable
for office employing many clerks, for Hight
manufacturing plant or showroom for manu-.
facturer of nationally known product. Rent
including heat light and janitor service, S2uO
q MONTH
SUITE FOR RENT
Two bright. outside Offices third floor one
room in corner OF building at 11th and Pa
ave. other room adjoining on 11th st. eide of
building. In addition TO being unusually desir-
hle for offices, these have an eyceIi-
tional value for Witnessing parades. Rent in
cludng heat. ltgi { au1 janitor service. sli0 a
month.
Evening star., 1923-05-09
RENT-WAREHOUSES.
FOR SALE OR EXCHANGE

II 900 SQUARE FEET. 3-sTORY BRICK: M
mediate possession. {. J.. WARISG & co,
2l9 Bond bldg. Frank. ;.,12
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
FLYER WINS
DEATH RACE,

BUCHANAN. Mich. Aug. 25.-
Jack Knight. trancontinental air
mail fier. won race with death
today when he arrived here 10 be
al the bedside Of his father, serious.
iy ill.,
Knight received word in Cheyenne
last night that his father was not
expected TO live. He left that city
at y. IN,
Friday night he arrived IN chica,
so. at 4:42 a m. nfter flying all
night. and reached his home here at
6,22 a. m.
The fathers condition was un,
changed when Jack arrived here
from Chicago. his last stopping
place.
The plane landed in the ball park
here and Jack hurried TO his fathers
bedside.
Distance covered from Cheyenne
was s75 miles. with stops made at
Omaha and Chicago
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25

Whether drastic action will be taxi
en- by employees Of the city's street
railways to force recognition OF their
warc demands depends almost en-
tirely upon the attitude the city
council viii take at the open hearing
on wage demands at Mondays coun.
ell session
Following stormy meetings Of the
rank and file Of street railway cm-
pIoyes held az the Labor temple Fri
day night. which lasted until n. m.
Saturday. the men voted TO permit
the entire controversy so remain IN
the hands OF the wages and condi-
lions committee Of the Street Car
Employees union, according to u. {.
Fuller, business agent of the union.
"Thc committee viii report back TO
mass meeting OF car employees
Monday night following the council
hearing" Fuller said Our future
action will be guided 10y the treat
ment the council gives us at the
hearing"
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
7RA(,IC
CANDY
EAT ten
Strychnine Found
in Medicine Case
Causes Death of
4-Year-Old Tot

Thinking she had found can
dy, Gertrude Hoas. 4-year-old
daughter OF Mr.. and Mrs. Rod
ney Hoag, Of the MeadowbrooIs
farm, near Snoqualmie, de-
voured the contents of bottle
Of strychuine pills "Wednesday
afternoon and fled eight hours
later.
The coroner's office received a r.
port Friday evening from an un.
known woman. asking them 10 in.
vestigate. Deputy Coroner Frank
Koepni and Kenneth corson invests
gated early Saturday morning and
found that the death was due to nc
cident.
The little girl, left 10 herself for
a few moments, Is said TO have
pulled chair before the medicine
cabinet in her home and reached the
bottles within. When discovered,
about 4 o'clock. she had the bottle
containing the strychnine pills in
her hand and had eaten about half
the contents.
She was rushed to the Snoqualraic
hospital, but died shortly after mid
night from the poison. No report
was made by members OF the fam
ily Investigating deputies declared
that the delay was due. probably. to
ignorance of the law. but that the
parents would not be prosecuted for
their failure to reort the death.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
OPIUM KING is
GIVEN HEARING
Aged Chinese Sorry Sight
as His Case Is Called

Trembling with age and in immi.
nont danger of collapsing for want
OF the drugs he has used for many
years, Hong Gent, So. Chinese. was
assisted into the office of United
States Commissioner J. $. Elliott for
a preliminary hearing. Saturday
morning. Gent was arrested Thurs.
day evening at 7l9h King st. after
federal agents had battered their
way thru a maze of passages and
barred doors 10 his room. where they
seized drugs valued nj $4,000 and
arrested four men, including Gent.
Narcotic agents recommended a
bond OF $500 for the old man, de.
clarIng that If the bond were made
prohbitive, and the defendant held
in Jail for another two days. he would
die. The minimum bond is $500 in
cases Of this sort, the operatives de-
clare.
The old man is believed TO be the
leader of the Chinese drug ring that
has operated in Seattle for many
llpllAllNt w HtH NlllIuldAtu WIFI MS
opium, the wrinltled Chinaman is
said to be crafty and cunning oper.
ator. worthy OF the attention of the
keenest agents in the narcotic forces
here.
Robbed of his drugs, he presented
n sorrowful appearance as he lis.
tened 10 the testimony of the arrest.
ing officers before the commissioner
Saturday, He was unable TO speak
q word in his own defense,
Settlement of bail was referred TO
United States Attorney Thomas p.
Revelc and agents believe that the
amount win be set at $1,000, Gents
attorney was attempting TO have his
client freed saturday, He win be
bound over to the,federal grand jury
on possession and snle charges, nc.
cordlng TO federal agents.
Tho three men arrested with him
are charged with smoking opium ana
win be tried in tho city courts ON
disofdcrly conduct charges.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
PROBE MURDER
OF GIRL w IF E

COLORADO SPRINGS. Colo.
Aug. 25.--1t was woman's mind
that planned the brutal killing OF
Mrs Elsie Jorgensen Suttle. 17-year-
old bride of one month here in her
room Thursday morning. the district
attorney now believes.
Letters. containing supposedly
tell-tale information on clandestine
relations between the murdered bride
and q mysterious lover named Jack
were planted beneath the dying girls
pillow as a ruse to side-track jus
tice, it Is believed
Actions OF Mrs. f. c. Lowe. mother.
and f. C. Lowe, stepfather Of the
murdered girl. were closely traced
yesterday. Altho their stories did
not altogether tally with others Civ
en- of their various activities since
the murder. nothing directly incrim-
mating was disclosed
Lowe was released and Mrs. Lowe
, held in the county jail for further
questioning
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT

/. Whether Mary Miles Min.
ter Is 30 years old or merely 81.
.. The banana shortage.
3. Whether Coy. Hart ehews
Piper Heidseicl or Granger
Twist
1. The f. o. u. cost of Rolls
Royce.
These thin sweaters the fiappera
wear over nothing at all also help to
maintain the freedom Of the sees. =
Talking ABOUT the Northwest net
champions makes Us tCoHdsr toho "a
the hdir.nct champion Of Lake
Washington.
Did you go 10 Mabels coming.out
party last night? ?"
Eyes, but / was TOO late: she was
all the way out when got there"
THE PROGRESS OF THE
SEASONS
Baseball.
Football.
Mothball
September is going 10 be- O tough
month for the kids Besides being
school month, it has five bath nights
Three Seattle men we're arrested
yesterday for selling raw milk
Gosh, do you have TO fry milk
now?
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
CAR EARNINGS
STILL SLUMP F!
Receipts Less Than Year
Ago; On Cash Basis

Despite an eatimated hcayy In.
crease in scattle's population this
year. compared with last. receipts
en- the Municipal Street railway for
the first 10 days of August show q
decrease. according to figures made
public on Saturday Figures for the
entire month will not be available
for several days. Superintendent OF
street Railways b. w Henderson
said
Total receipts on the car lines for
the first 10 days of August. 1923,
were s25i, 573O6, compared with
1852, 5000 for the same period In
1922. There is a differential in favor
OF 1922 Of 1914
For the first time In several
months. however. pay warrants were
issued Saturday without the stamp
mo funds in treasury" on them The
system " on a cash basis, but is op.
Grating ON borrowed money It IL
approximately $4,000 in debt to
other funds for It's operating fund.
However, there Is approximately
$780, 900 cash in the operating fund
and the money to meet The 1860. 600
scmi-nnnual interest payment. Sep.
tcmber 1, has been forwarded to
New York.
~. H. Blaine. chairman Of the coun'
eli finance committee, estimates, that
while receipts were slightly under
last year, the net profit Ia greater,
due 10 economies in operation now In
effect.
The system Is doing all that was
expected under the Decent fare,
Blaine said. II Is paying operating
charges. interest and bond rcdcmp.
ton and retiring the indebtedness
into which tho roads were thrown by
the 5.ccntfare experiment There Is
n difference Of about 5000 q day in
receipts.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
ELEPHANT DOOMED TO
BE SLAUGHTERED HAS
FRIEND IN PORTLAND

II ORTLAND, Aug. %. - "Char'
i lie" mammoth elephant be.
longing 10 a Los Angeles motion
picture company. recently cor.
demned TO do because OF his man.
killing tendencies, has found u
champion here
Mrs. +. W. Swanton. manager
Of the oregon Humane society,
viii tonight urge the disarmament
forum. city organization, 20
adopt resolution protesting
against Charles" slaughter.
She will urge that the beast be
returned 10 his South African
home. where he can roam the
wilds as Of yore and tear things
up generally II he so desires.
Charlie" whose method Of ex.
termination has been discussed
for some time in the Hollywood
studios. has just been sentenced
TO die during the filming OF
thrill picture. In which the Gle.
plants slaughter viii be the big
climax.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
WA ICH
R()l)' ties
in CITY
Read Says HeMay
Get More Men
to Aid in His
Dairy Fight
BY Lester NJ. Hunt

All available inspectors OF the
health department took the field
Saturday morning TO round up the
Is raw milk dealers whose permits
were revoked August 81. and who
are reported to be sim selling milk
In the city. IN accordance with the
advice OF their attorney. Philip
TworoFcr
The health department began ~
crusade Friday. after dnirymen who
had refused TO Join the pasteurized
monopoly Ind begun suit against
Or. Hiram Read. city health com
missioner. charging persecution
and undue interference.
/ II. Il. Turner. acting chief Of the
sanitation division or the health De.
7 partmont. reported the arrest. sat
urdny morning, OF J A. Anderson,
a driver for the f. 81 King dairy.
1 and o. r. Breshcnr. driver for the
4. u. stewert dairy Thts brings
the arrests 20 five since the filing OF
tho suit. late Friday. ugainst the
city and the health department
Turner declared that the
health department was deter
mined TO continue the cam.
palgn against the raw milk men
and said that. II necessary, all
sanitary officers OF the depart.
mcnt, together with such special
deputies rs might be needed,
1 would be pressed into service.
Sanitary inspectors Saturday
morning were watching the routes
of tho rs dairymen who lost their
i permits. and expect 20 have them
alI under arrest by Monday
Superior Judge Everett Smith de.
cliucd Friday 10 grant n temporary
injunction against tho health de.
partmont. when the suit Of the nine
dairymen was filed against the city.
lie set August 30 as tho date for
DR. Read and Police Chief Severyns
10 appear before him 30 show cause
why mn injunction should not be
granted.
1 In their complaint the raw mill,
producers alleged that the health
department was prosecuting them
and their property. valued at 5000.
900. would be loss unless the
courts granted them relief from the
alleged persecution.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1923-08-25
Street Car Strike NOU
Up to the City Council
Carmen, After All Night Session, Put Wage
Question Up to City Once More

eight was a direct slap in the face
1T took away all we had won for
better conditions In the past two
years" President NJ. j Murray, of
the union, said.
ID. w Henderson, superintendent
Of street railways, said that the con.
dition OF street car finances at this
time does not hold forth hope for a
wage increase. Opinion among coun.
ell members Friday Is that there will
be no strike IL the demands OF the
union officials are not granted. A
great body OF the employees are well
satisfied with existing wages and
conditions, members of the council
believe.