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The Washington times., 1923-01-11
WILLIE HOPPE FINISHES
WITH LONG BILLIARD RUN

Willie Hoppe and his Japanese
partner, Sugunuma, have left town
leaving behind host OF new friends
acquired during their three-day
series of exhibitions at Sherman's.
AS a, befitting end of his stay here,
Home ran 1875 billiards. to complete
his strong Of 500 last night.
Sugunuma got 7S points. In the
afternoon, Hoppe won, 800 to 207.
Among the spectators in the after
noon was George Christian. secre-
tary to the President.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Business CUNT Wins.

Playing a faster game than they
did in the opening of the high
school basketball series, the Bust
ness players mastered Hyattsville
High, 3S to Is, in an exhibition
contest. Hyattsville was held to
three field goals.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Rowser is Captain.

PITTSBURGH, Jan. 11.-Charlie
Bowser, varsity center, has been
chosen 1923 captain Of the Pitts
burgh eleven. He acted a. captain
last fall during the absence Of
Tom HoIleran. who was injured In
the Lafayette game.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

Miss Gladys LOWd. swinging
back into old time form. shot sir
games at the Recreation for N
average Of 119, high score, 143.
Then she weakened and reeAed
of four games Of . bit less than
100. General average for ten
games, 1915,
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Pirates Seek May.

PITTSBURGH. Jan. Ii The
Pirates are now seeking jake May,
the Vernon southpaw, following the
decision of the Yankees that their
protected deal Is Off.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
WILLS CAN'T HIT LIKE
HE COULD YEAR AGO
~ DAYS . Wal |.

new YORK ian l1Whether & = Just mater St Dempsey
theess that Harry Wills i not nearly the A.
Further said
fully Of the fact.
This true would account for silence abiding
Jack Dempsey heavyweight championship black
romh him fhe
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Big Three Observe
Agreement As
To Writing

Apropos q writing articles
for the public press, It seems
that tho u. s. q. a had moth
ing TO do with the fact that
Jess Sweetser ceased signing his
daily stories On Yale football
activities. Il was entirely an
intercollegiate matter. Yals.
Harvard and Princeton have g
triangular agreement, which haa
just begun "a function, BY which
athletes are prohibited from
writing signed articles for The
public press.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Says Skillet"
Finn, Esq:
# Jack Dempsey Doesn't
Know What to Do With
the Championship, for
Pete's Sake Don't Let
Him Clown It Away.
BY KIRK MILLER

IF Jack Dempsey 10 going to
meet a menagerie OF wres-
tiers, floor walkers, pinochle
players and non-union spectators,
why not fight Jackie Coogan for
the guess-weight championship OF
the Chip Beef district?
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
FIRPO GETS TO AMERICA
AT PROPER TIME

Luis Fpo, the South American heavyweight scheduled sail
for New York tomorrow and he win arrive about the first Of
month Luis will make his appearance the
plenty Of action There win be big demand for meet
the of the Brennanohnson bout will fill the bill
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Casey Will Remain.

MEDFoRD, Mass, Jan. 11.-Ed-
die Casey, former Harvard all
increased salary to coach the Tufts
college football team Tor 1929
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

Harry wills looked very much IKE
q man who could not Or would nat
punch.
The bout IA question lasted about
twelve rounds. in spite III the fact
that Glenn johnson, party Of the
second part. Was pretty much Of .
Joke
Cutie 3 BIT Of wills success has
been due to his ability 81 hook
his LETT hand under the shoulder
d an opponent and drag the lat
ter forward into B right upDee
cut ~ the body The result uslI.
allt has been rather eIllbaEEass-
Ing to the victim.
Usually the latter has lent him
self unwittingIy to this program by
cltnchtng as soon All he cot 70 close
Quarters Crimson, ably coached BY
some one, declining to be party
to such b transaction. S.
When Wills meets Dempsey, if
ever, he will experience even more
difficulty with this trick. Dempsey
IL stronger, wiser and certainly
more alippery than johnson. His
gliding GWaying movements as he
comes In VIII break Wills hold nine
times out Of ten
And on the occasion Of the tenth
Wills may wish that the break had
been Just as clean and definite.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

With shrill roofing and lots OF
ginger. the Kingpin Juniors League
got under way at the Kingpin. The
four teams OF the league represent
lads Of the Powell School.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

be admitted to
fellowship on
the theory that
Dempsey can't
be licked at his
own game, then
1t would be in.
teresting to see
him fight a for
est full Of wild
cats.
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Are Shut Out.

The Chevy Chase basketball team
was held scoreless by the Mt.
Vernons, who won, 86 to o.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

j. OFT. A. OFT, II. OFT. v. OFT.
brothers, and Rude Bakersmith
make up q. team which win roll
the Hilltopper girls tonight at the
Kingspin. The OFT family will
concede the girls q handicap Of
fifty-one pins a game. Recently
the TIilltopper maidens defeated
the crack Kingpin team in q handi-
cap match.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

His trouble, they say, Ii not lack
Of speed He Is still &c fast as
ever he was, It IS alleged, but can
not hit with the same old bone
crushing force. His hands, fragile
40 wine glass. win not stand the
.sWiIls doesn't dare let nv with
his punches the way he did several
years ago" declared prominent
matchmaker recently. couple
of rounds Of hard punching would
reduce his hands to diahrags. He
never had hands strong enough 20
punch with criminately, but
when he was fighting Sam Lang
ford he saved them = lot BY using
his speed and boxing ability g 90
vantage.
evils cannot do that now be-
cause his hands are even weaker
than they were then. He knows
he. mist finish his mlan early,
and &C the Same time ~ reaAi%e1
that he cannot afford to swing
with everything NE hass
ssIn consequence, be relies On In
timidating his Opponent and after
ward finishing him with body blows.
which are not Is destructive 70 the
hands as q punch 70 the head. z
Whether this be fact O. fancy de-
ponent knoweth not but we can at
test to the TACT that upon the SOccar
sion OF his last public appearance
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

While step
ping out of his
class for COM
petition the Los
Angeles torea-
dore hasn't sug-
gested any bull
fights to settle
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

Terminal Ice Company. bOasting
Max Rosenberg, District League
leader, and several other cracks
win be the main attraction at
Sherman's tonight, In . league
match with the Sherman team.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Western A. G. Cops.

Western A. C. slammed Dewitt
Prep School, 81 to IL, displaying
some splendid teamwork.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
Hilltop Props Win.

The Georgetown Prep School
quint won from the Rockville
juniors. 20 to 20. scoring twelve
field goals1
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
PaddocIk rs Ru1.

Paddock il expected to compete
IN the Los Angeles meet Feb
ruary IL.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11
No Tank at Harvard.

Harvard has no equipment to
foster swimming. ---.---.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

the heavyweight fog which has
been choking one and all here
and hereabouts.
Dempsey might establish some
interesting scientific theories nv
Tying a meat-axe to each hand
and wading into regiment Of re-
treating steam shovels.
II he wishes to enhance the
wealth Of pugilistic fol-de-roI that
already disgraces Paris and sub
uros' he might go through with
this Stranger Lewis comedy, but
mats just the trouble with the
fight game.
They'Ve been clawing too much.
You can't tell any more whether
TWO buns are slugging each oth4I.
or just going through some turk
1sh bath calesthenics. Many a
professional masseur strikes
tougher blows than Sikh or Car
pentier combined.
Dempsey will be- h~rd put tn II
II he meets Lewis in the ring. on
the mat, or on roller skates. The
people that go to see them win
be up against it for amusement.
Their meeting would prove
what7
One man in the world could
have gotten away with an attrac.
ton like Dempsey and Lewis and
he's dead. He's had a lot of
imitators and most Of them are
now twiddling their thumbs on
the mezzanine floor of some poor
house.
The public isn't SO dumb and
more; they just look stupid. A
pack Of phoney entertainments in
the course Of a generation will
wise.up even the most gullible.
Sikh and Carpenter have commit
ted suicide for mere gold, il
Dempsey going to be a dumbell
too?
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

Dempsey might establish some
interesting scientific theories by
tyIng meat-axe to each hand
ana Wading into regiment OF re-
treating steam shovels.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

II the wide, wide world Is to
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

Deen cnoklng one and all here
and hereabouts.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

klaus won that bout. He wore
down his cIassier opponent with
terrific blows to the body. Now
and then he landed wicked hook
to the head or face, but always ne
had TO take three lightning like
efahS to the face TO do so. Had
Gardner possessed his torme!
punch he might have stopped
Klaus.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

johnson created little stir i'm
the fistic world until he admins
tered q terrific beating to Bob
Martin, the a. E. r. champion.
The soldier heavyweight has mot
returned t0 the ring yet, 50 great
was the punishment recetved.
That bout made johnson. The
promoters began to watch him.
The Washington times., 1923-01-11

One Of bis sparT.ing mates il
Joe BOykin, a big negro from the
middle West who has had con.
siderable ring experience. An.
other is Rough House Ware.
Evening star., 1923-10-27
FORD co. WILL BUILD
$4,000 HOMES SOON
Houses, to Be Made of Cement on
Edison Plan, to Be Sold
Near Cost.
by the Associated Press.

Dy the Associated Press
DETROIT. Mich. October 27.-6;rec-
tion of 10000 homes on a 5.00o-acre
tract Of land south Of the Dearborn
plant of the Ford Motor Company is
planned by the Ford company, accord
ing to the announcement of Henry
Ford. The houses are to be constructed
Of cement, according to a plan perfected
by Thomas A. Edison.
The plans call for pouring of the
cement into set of forms. and these
molds can then be arranged into twelve
different types of houses, II is asserted
The lumber in the houses is to be OBJ
tanned from short pieces of tir51ber
usually allowed to go to waste by sum-
The houses will be sold to any per-
son who desires to buy them and at
q price close to cost, according to- Mr..
Ford. Purchasers will be given adgan-
tage OF the difference in land values
now and when the tract of land was
purchased, eight years ago.
Evening star., 1923-10-27
IRISH HUNGER STRIKERS
TO BE DENIED LIBERTY
Free State Fears Return to Arms
and Demands Other Grounds
for Release.
By the Associated Press.

By the Associated Press.
DUBLIN. October 27-The Free
State government announces thai no
prisoners have been released in SON
sequence of a hunger strike and that
none will be, although freedom might
be granted on other grounds
At q meeting in O'Connell street
last evening republican speakers said
that 10000 persons were now under
going a voluntary fast and would
lace death rather than endure prison.
Replying to q ministerial statement
that the prisoners were being de-
tained because IL released they would
get arms from hidden caches, Michael
Comyn asserted that Irish republican
soldiers would never give up their
guns, but would keep them as heir
looms of liberty.
twenty-seven hunger strikers were
released on Thursday
Evening star., 1923-10-27
SAYSU.S 5. S.|SJAPAN'S
FRIEND FOREVER
Representative Alderman
Tells of Feeling and After
math Of Earthquake.

THE sympathy displayed by the
citizens of the United States toward
Japan since the earthquake insures
the friendliness of the Japanese for
ell time to come and helps to remove
all possibility of armed conflict over
my question" said Repres ssnts tive
Ernest r. Ackerman of New Jersey.
member of the foreign affairs COM
mittce of the House. who returned
to the Capital yesterday after having
experienced some 1000 shocks In zthe
japanese disaster
Finishes 25 OO0- Mile Journey:
Hc finished today 25,000-hlile
Journey to the Philippines. China and
Japan. accompanied by Mrs. AcEer-
man and her sister, Miss Weber:
II was due to presentiments by
his wife that Representative Acser-
mans party was on the outer edge
or the earthquake zone instead OF In
the very center on that fateful Sat
urday. His wife's insistence caused
representative Ackerman to leave
TOXIC on the preceding Thursday
leaving their trunks and belongings
behind them while they visited the
home of the temples. Nikko.
Representative Ackerman about a
ihOAth idlet sol dll Oh his DSlOnE1nRS
intact. and especially is pleased Sver
the recovery Of the umbrella Etick
that he has carried on his travels all
over the world for many years zand
which now has a record of usage COW
ering more than $4,000 miles of
travel
scenes Of Devastation.
Yokohama looks like the devas-
tated towns and cities of nortaern
France and southern Belgium did
Just after the close Of the war said
the Congress member. Z
Enormous assures in the streets
with bodies piled in them will have
to be hlled up before anything else is
done.
Many tottering walls will have to
be dynamited. Perhaps the total loss
Iii the earthquake zone will come to
$4,000. 600, 600 to $4,000 900 900. Two
hundred and fifty thousand persons
have lost their lives or have beer Sc
riously manned and 81 900 houses in
Toxic and Yokohama razed"
lie sailed from Seattle on Friday,
the 18th day of July. made thirteen
ports of call. was away from Wash
ington 113 days, returned on the lhir-
teenth trip of the President Nc n snley
and yet TINS usually Jonah number
did not interfere with the health of
any OF his party to the slightest de-
gree.
Evening star., 1923-10-27
The Hunter Shoots.
The ons we fear we're apt to hate
When his should be, better fate.
sIunpar Pho Hara

Never was there a more peaceful
scene in the Green Forest. In an
open, sandy place Mr.. and Mrs. Grouse
were taking a dust bath. They
thought no one saw them, yet all the
time two pairs of eyes were watching
them. One pair belonged to Jumper
the Hare. The other pair belonged to
hunter sitting motionless on a log,
terrible gun across his knees.
All this time Darter the Hawk,
whose real name is Cooper's Hawk,
had been hunting a breakfast in an
other part of the Green Forest, and
he had had no luck at all. Now. Dar-
ter is one of the members of the
Hawk family most feared by other
feathered folk. He would rather
have a bird to put in his stomach
than any other kind Of food. He is
very swift Of wing. and 1t is this
swiftness which has won for him
the name of Darter. He is bold and
quite fearless.
Having failed to get so much as
feather in his chosen hunting
ground. Darter by chance headed
were % taxing @ dust ana Bath. rf Hls G1are sRarp
eyes missed no movements on the
ground ground ,ieuS bsiow' If a Merry Little
ground Darter saw it. So it was that
the movements of Mr.. and Mrs.
Grouse as they took their dust bath
we're seen by Darter when he was
some distance away. Darter's eyes
sparkied. Nothing would suit, him
for breakfast quite as we'll as .
Grouse. With a quick turn he head
cd straight for Mr.. and Mrs. Grouse.
He had eyes for nothing else.
1t wasn't until he shot over the
Mr.. Grouse or Mrs. Grouse was
aware Of their danger. Mr.. Grouse
saw him first and with a sharp warn
ing took to his wings. Mrs. Grouse
was not a second behind him.
Straight for the thickest trees they
headed, for in these alone could they
ind safety, But they had not seen
Darter soon enough. He was COM
ing. SO fast that only one Of them
Evening star., 1923-10-27
URGES THAT HOLLAND
Defend NEUTRALITY
By the Associa ted Press.

By the Associated Press.
THE HAGUE. October 27.-Foreign
Minister Van Karpepesk. =; spsakhip9fS h9f
for construction of a fleet for the
Dutch East Indies, said Holland was
under international obligation to de-
fend her neutrality. The measure, ne
asserted, neither conflictsd with the
covenant Of the league of nations
nor was 1t opposed to the spirit of
the washington conference.
The causes of tension In Amer.
lea and Japan, he continued; were
treaty. They consist OF an Antithesis
OF interest regarding the China
market and this tension will not de-
crease IL Europe absorbs fewer
American products.
EVEN the compulsory Jurisdiction
Of the permanent court Of arbitra ton
10 only accepted BY. small number
of states. We shall. therefore. con
tinue to prepare suitably for the
maintenance Of peace. Tho safety Of
the state demands that we take into
account certain facts for which Aoi-
land il not responsible" - ~,
Evening star., 1923-10-27
NORTKCLIFFE STOCK SALE
ATTRACTS BRITISH MONEY
5000, 600 Pounds Issue Results il
Subscriptions of 100, ,oOO, boo
Pounds-Cash Plentiful.

LONDON. October 27.-It Is .an-
nounced that subscriptions for the
stock issue OF fs.000.000 for financing
the amaiEamation of the Northcliffe
and Hutton newspapers. reached q
total Of fl00. .o0o.Ooo.
Whatever financial distress Great
Britain is suffering. there appears to
be plenty of money awaiting invest
ment. A South African government
loan Of fs,000,000 was put on tho
market on Monday and subscribed on
Tuesday. New securities absorbed In
London this month total f30. .000, 600. )
Evening star., 1923-10-27
Changes in Stations of
Army and Macy Officers
OF Interest to Capital
Arm v.


Mai. H. f. Smalley. Dental Corps.
at Fort Myer. Va. has been ordered
to Brooklyn. n. Y. for duty
First Lieut.. Phillips Melville, air
service. has been transferred from
the proving ground. Aberdeen. Md.
to this city for duty In the Office of
the chief of air service.
Capt. c. w. Van Cortland. Quarter
master Corps, in the Philippines. has
been ordered to San Francisco for
duty.
Lieut.. Col Frayne Baker. Quarter
master Officers Reserve Corps. ut
to this city to take a course Of in
struction in military supply at the
Army War College. Washington bar
racks.
Capt E. s. Ferrand. Signal Corps.
at Brooklyn. N. Y. has been oIered
to San Francisco.
Capt. w. D. Brotherton. command
ing the seventh naval district. has
been assigned to the command Of the
Mississippi. He will relieve Capt. o.
director of communications, WASH
ington. d. G.
Lieut. Simon Jacobs, at Hampton
Roads, has been placed in charge of
the ammunition depot at Charleston,
s. c.
Lieut.. Thomas Shine. at Hampton
Roads, has been placed in charge of
the recruiting station, Baltimore, Nd,
as the relief of Commander r. V. Nc
Nair, who has been ordered to the
New Mexico.
Commander c. F. Hutchins of the
New Mexico has been ordered to the
Asiatic station. Lieut.. Commander E.
M. Zacharias, assistant naval attache
at Toxic. Japan. also has been or
dered to the Asiatic station.
The resignation Of Lieut.. G. H. L.
Peet OF the Gold Star has been ac-
cepted to take effect at once
Lieut.. l. S. Combs, Civil Engineer
Corps, at Port au Prince. Haiti, has
been detailed as public works officer,
naYal mine depot. Yorktown, Va.
eut. ]. b. Earnest. jr., Chaplain
Corps, Of the hospital ship Relief has
been assigned to duty at the naval
proving ground. Indian Head. Nd.
Lieut. Commander o. c. Badger has
been transferred from Puget Sound.
Wash, to the bureau 6f ordnance,
Navy Department; Lieut. F. X.
Soukop. Medical Corps, from, the
Naval Medical School, this city. to the
Naval Hospital. New York; Lieut..
Commander ], r. Morrison, from the
Delaware to the eleventh naval dis
trict; Lieut.. T. H. Williamson. from
and Lieut. c. c. Tinsley. Dental
Corps, from the naval training sta
tion, Hampton Roads, to the West
Virginia.
Evening star., 1923-10-27
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Evening star., 1923-10-27
3 Tons of Marks
Seized byGern1al1s
AT Dutch Frontier

By the Associate Press
BERLIN, October 81. - Nearly
three tons Of paper marks have
been confiscated at the Dutch
frontier by German off1cials. The
currency belonged to dealers who
have been doing big trade Gin
exporting notes to Holland for ed
vertising purposes. The Dutch
tradesmen buy them in bulk to nse
as wallpaper aud also for inssr-
tion in cigarette packages, thus
enabling the dealers to attrsct
sales by advertising: This packet
contains a 1000, ,000-mark note,s
Such practice has been in use
for long time and the police new
are trying to stop 1t.
Evening star., 1923-10-27
BEDTIME STORIES
By Thornton
W. Burgess.

would ever have reached those trees
had not something happened.
But something did happen. Yes,
sir, something did happen. There
was bang bang Of q terrible gun.
Mr.. and Mrs. Grouse plunged head
long in among the trees. Darter
turned sharply and vanished over
the cops of the trees. Two or three