The Winslow mail., 1923-01-26
of the four or five?
Al could not say.
O.-You couldn't say?

cussion they told you the Brother
hood had nothing to do with it? Do
you know who had told you that?
A.-The men who were talking to
me first, and who stopped me.
Q.-The four or five men?
A-Yes, sir.
Odd they say the Brotherhood"
or the brotherhood" had nothing
to do with it? Was it your Brother
hood or all of the Brotherhoods?
Att was intended for the four
transportation organizations, as I re-
member it.
Q.-And then they told you further
that it was a One Big Union strike?
A-Yes, sir.
Q.-And they told you further it
was an l. w. w strike?
At was not only mentioned
there but it was mentioned
Q.-I am asking about there.
A-Yes, sir.
Q-And when they told you it was
an !. w. w. strike was there any ap-
plause or any cheering or anything
done or said by the persons about
you
A.-After that statement had been
made, as I remember it, the remark
was made to "give him the air.
Q-But | am asking you when the
statement was made, was there any
demonstration of approval by any
one?
A.-There seemed to be a general
turmoil in the hall.
Ono, no. Perhaps / can't make
myself understood. You said awhile
ago when you said something some
of the people hissed.
A.-That was after l took the plat
form, Mr. Rush.
Q-Now then, I am asking you
when they told you at the door, with
these people standing all about you,
that that was an l. w. w. strike, did
anybody cheer?
Al don't know as they did.
Odd you hear anyone say any
thing in approval of that?
Al don't know as they did
Q.-You say in that same converse
tion that they told you that on the af-
ternoon of the 9th, the Firemen had
held a meeting on the afternoon of
the 9th of August?
Al understand on Wednesday,
the 9th.
Q.-On Wednesday, the 9th of Aug
ust, the Firemen had held meeting? :?
A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-And | didt understand where
you said they told you they held it?
A.-At Needles.
Odd they say in what hall or
lodge room?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-They simply said that they held
a melting at Needles, and that there
were how many firemen present?
Sixty-eight.
Q.-Sixty eight, present. And how
many did they say were I. w. W.s?
A.-Forty-t
A-And then did they tell you that
if they couldn't get the privilege of
striking from the Brotherhood of
Railroad Trainmen that they would go
out and strike under the I. w. W?
A-They said if they couldn't get
the privilege from their chief execu-
tive meaning the B. of L. F. and E.,
that they would go out under the flag
of the T. w. w. in support of the
shop crafts.
Odd you in this conversation
or did any of them, say anything
about the conditions under which
they had been working?
A.-That was discussed later at
that meeting
.Q.-No, ibut in this conversation
near the door?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-And nothing was said at that
time about troubles with equipment
or guards or anything of that sort?
A.-Not at that time
Q.-And up to this time that was
the first time, was it, that you had
any conversation directly with the
employees, striking employees, in Nee
dies?
A-Yes at Needles.
Q.-Yes, at Needles
A-Yes, sir.
Q.-And you say that in this con-
versation by the door that they used
vile language concerning Stone and
Lee and Robertson and Sheppard?
A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-They are the Presidents OF the
Big Four organizations, are they?
A-YaS sir