Evening star., 1923-08-16
SEESPAR|SP PEACE
PLAN UPSET BY j. S.
Sir Edward Grigg Traces Up
heavaI in Europe Partly to
American Withdrawal.
BY the Associated Press.

WILLIAMSTOWN, Mass, August 16.
Conflict between two Fundamental
ideas in Europe. condemnation of the
French and Belgian course in the
Ruhr, and insistence on British ad-
hcrcnCe to the treaty of Versailles,
were grouped with expressed belief
I'm the league of nations as a part of
the treaty and a statement to the ef-
feet that American withdrawal from
European affairs had upset the bal
ance planned by the peace confer
fnce of Paris in II lecture tonight
by Sir Edward Grigg of London. be-
fore the Institute of Politics at Will
liamS College
The two conflicting ideas specified
by Sir Edward We're, first. the moral
idea OF European accord not main
rained primarily by the force of arms,
and. second. the old continental idea,
now espouSed by France and the new
republics, that security depends on
armed domination.
Cites Rumanian stand.
From the present methods in the
Ruhr. the lecturer said, France and
Belgium would not be able to gain
either reparationH or security. and the
basis for the present British position
with regard to what the British con-
slider the illegality of occupation was
he declared, ldlQ as long ago as the
Rumanian occupation of Hungary for
the purpose of obtaining reparations
Then, he said. the clause of the treaty
on which Britain now bases her legal
case was actually quoted to the Ru-
mdnian government and interpreted
by the allies i'll the sense on which
the British government now stands.
The British empire is absolutely
Al one with France and with the other
European allies in demanding repara-
L. yNr
declared. The British empire stands
and means to stand by the treaty of
Versailles. However, although the
aims regarding reparations are iden-
teal, the British differ from France
and Belgium as to the methods best
calculated TO obtain the desired pay
ments. 1t is the French desire to
knock Germany about and the British
desire to set Germany on her feet SO
that she can pay.
Believes Germany Sincere.
The British understand the feeling
OF evaporation caused by German
evasions and the English feeling for
France persists. But in my opinion
the German governments since the
conference of May, 1921. when the
terms were fixed upon which NJ.
P0InCare now takes his stand, have
all been consciously anxious to carry
out what is called a policy of full
tillment toward the allies. but they
have not shown the driving power
or the will to get the people behind
them and defeat that section of the
German people which has been stead
ltN opposing final settlement. That
section is strong combination of
f1nanciers and industrialists. To us
in England it has seemed at times
that since the armistice the German
people have been as completely sheep
i'll the hands of the industrialists
as they were sheep in the hands of the
militarists before and during the war.
From all that | have heard of
Germany | believe revolution is
very imminent"
Against Use Of Force.
Sir Edward expresses the opinion
hat there had been more inefficiency
man bad faith in the position of the
German government as to reparations.
! he British he said, became convinc-
'd that Germany must have time
and assistance in re-eStabliShing the
whole political and economic struc-
ture.
Seeing Europe turned into an arm
Cd camp by the prevalence of the
c"ntin"ntal view that only in this
way lies security is increas ingly dis
quieting to the English mind the
lecturer continued. He reviewed the
conferences. fifteen in number. which
have tried unSuccessfully to bring the
allies into accord and. regarding the
separate treaty of guaranty of Sc
Curity offered to France by the Brit
ish government after the secur
tty treaties of the Paris treaty con-
ference had failed. he said:
The suggestion that our guaranty
was useless unless we maintained a
military force. which we had not
maintained up TO 1914. seemed to us a
nat denial of the value of our sup
port, mockery of the principles for
which We fought in the war. and a
reversion to the old system of mill
tary alliances. in which the British
peoples are determined more than
ever now. never to be involved. There
can be only one result of the French
and Belgian policy-increasing un-
rest and ultimate explosion.
Forbes Answers Filipino.
Former Gov Gen. w. Cameron
Forbes of the Philippines. asked at
round table conference today wheth-
or he believd that the United states
has definitely promised unconditional
Independence to the Ftlipinos as soon
as they have established stable
government. replied:
NO. sir; do not
To further questions along the same
line he explained:
II think the United States has
nromised to do the best 1t can to
establish a stable government ana
turn the reinS of control over to them
as fast as it can he done safely. There
is no reason why the United States
should not impose such conditions as
il would feel necessary to carry out
its pledge to the world that the gov
ermm-nJ would be stable.
Asked how the Filipinos thought
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