The Winslow mail., 1923-01-05
John Bannon's Testimony
Before the Federal Court

sustained. Just tell us what you did.
Q.-By Mr.. Todd.-Well, you got
another train out?
Al took another train out of
there-a consolidated train; not the
train I had come in on but train
thai had been there several days, ac-
cordlng to my information, and was
moved over to Gallup, where 1 met a
number of the strikers.
Q.-Now, they were men of what
organization, if you know?
A.-Members of the four transport
alton organizttions-the 3. r. T., the
B. of L. E. the B. of L. F. & E. and the
0. R. C.-my organization.
Odd you talk to these men?
l. Al did.
Q.-What did you learn, if anything,
about the strike?
Al was told they
M. Rush, object to that as hear
say. 1 think these statements ought
to be confined to the knowledge of the
witness
Q.-By Mr.. Todd-Well, if you
know the names of any of the men
you talked with
Al remember F. F. Smith, mem
her of Lodge ATT of our organization
a striker.
Q.-Will you state what talk you
had with him and with any other
strikers in his presence?
Mr.. Rush.-That is objected to as
hearsay.
The Court.-It is your contention
that they are members of the same
conspiracy, 1 suppose?
Mr.. Todd.-They are, may it please
the court.
The Court.-All right; the objec-
ton is overruled.
Mr.. Rush.-Exception
Q.-By Mr.. Todd.-Proceed.
Al asked him what the trouble
was. He said, 1T is none of your
business, for the simple reason this
strike is not IN accordance with the
laws of the Big Four organizations" !"
l said, Don't you realize that you
have passenger trains and freight
trains, and that you are obstructing
the mails here illegally and in viola
tion of the Federal Transportation
Act Of 1920 and your own contract?"
He told me, ITO hell with the Fed
eral transportation Act and the con-
tract that the strike was not in ac-
cordance with the laws of the Broth
erhood, nor had it been sanctioned
and they didn't intend to sanction it
or to ask for it to be sanctioned. and
further, he stated, When you reach
Needles you will get the swiftest ride
you ever got in your life and you will
find the strikers loaded to the teeth"
or armed to the teeth" l said,
well the quickest way they have of
getting me there to find out what our
members intend to do will be entirely
too slow, because l certainly want to
try and relieve this disgraceful situa-
ton" There were passengers there
appealing, which was after
Mr.. Rush.-Just a moment
Q.-By Mr.. Todd.-This was at
what point, now?
A.-Gallup, New Mexico.
Q.-And there were trains tied up
there, were there?
A.-There were trains tied up there.
My own train was tied up.
Q.-How long was your train de-
layed there?
Al don't know I took another
train out of there, because they were
running the passenger trains first in
first out.
Q.-And you were there at Gallup
about how<long?
Al arrived there about midnight
and l left there about eight o'clock
next morning, on another train, which
had been tied up for several days.
Q.-And that train took you to
what point?
Alt took me to Needles, California
where I arrived the morning of the
18th at about 2 a. m.
Q.-By Mr.. Todd.-On your trip
over the line from Chicago to Nee
dies, did you take occasion to exam
ire the equipment of the trains 20 sec
WI ether or not it was dangerous?
Al got off at all terminals fror,
sbe time I left Chicago until arrived
"a Needles, for the purpose of ascer-
timing as 10 whether or not there
WIS really anything wrong with the
equipment.
Q-What dld you find out?
Al couldn't find anything wrong