The Winslow mail., 1923-02-02

! CH6y udu any grievances Lu6FS OF not
A.-Mr. Evans didn't present any
grievances to me, no.
Q.-Now then the conductor who
was out on his train, if he had a
grievance, it was his duty to present
it to the local chairman, was it not?
A.-No.
Q.-Who?
A.-To present it to his division and
let the members of that division de-
termined as to whether he had a legi-
innate grievance.
Q.-And if the members determined
he had legitimate grievance who did
it go to?
CIT would then be turned over
by orders of that division to the local
grievance committee?
Q.-And in practice the local chair
man of the local grievance committee
is the one who manages that part of
it?
A.-No. The local grievance COM
mittee usually consists of three mem
! bers.
Q.-Do you know whether or not
Mr.. Evans was the chairman of the
local grievance committee at Needles
A-Yes, Mr. Evans was the local
chairman.
Q-Do you know whether or not
he had any list Of grievances that had
been presented to the company?
| A.-None whatever that I know of.
Ole didn't show you any?
A.-No.
Q.-I asked him if he had any legi-
innate grievances, and that were pro-
perly handled under the laws of the
Brotherhood with the proper officers
of the company, and he said no.
Q.-Well, whether they were prop
erly handled or not, I asked you whe-
ther he had any grievances, and we
will leave out all minor matters now
and refer only to grievances that were
penalty defects under the law, that
is, the handling of equipment in a
condition prohibited by law expressly :?
There can't be any question about
these being proper grievances, can
there?
A-Prohibited by law?
Q-Yes.
A.-No question about that
Odd you make any Investigation
of his records, or ask him to show
you his records, to see whether or not
there were any such grievances by
your men at that place?
Al talked to him about the griev-
ances, yes, and asked him what griev-
ances he had if any and he didn't
have any.
Didn't have any?
Ale didn't present any to me.
Dwell did he tell you that he
didn't have any?
Ale told me that he didn't have
any, and the reason why,-well, l will
withdraw that. I was going to state
what he said asl to their reason for
being out of service but that is suffic-
lent.
Q-As far as the other men were
your, organization l take it, you didn't
make any particular investigation to
ascertain their troubles, that is, the
engineers the firemen and the ether
members of the Big Four, and so
forth?
Al mingled with all of them on
account of my being selected and re-
quoted by the meeting to draft a pro-
per reply, or an appropriate reply, to
Mr. Hitchcock's letter of the 18th
Q.-You got there about 2 o'clock
in the morning of the 18th, did you?
A-Of the 18th, yes, sir.
Q.-And went over to breakfast be-
tween and and went to the meet
ing about 8, and were over at the
meeting most of the time until 8
o CLOCK IndI evening, were YOU
A-Until when?
Q.-Eight o'clock that evening.
A-What meeting?
Q-The meeting over in the opera
house?
A-Oh no. The meeting adjourn
ed at 11:3O and 1 didn't get back there
until o'clock the 10Th.
Dwell, you said they waited over
there in the evening to get a/reply
from Mr. Hitchcock, and it didn't
come, and the meeting finally ad
journed?
A.-The meeting adjuorned, Mr..
Rush, at about 11:30 the 18th, and
whether they reconvened or had an
other meeting or not 1 don't know
| didn't go back.
Q-What did you mean by the state
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