The Winslow mail., 1923-02-02

/ any OIHST SOuTCe-yOu 0dQH learned
what they were actually complaining
of?
| A-Yes Most of their complaint
is was in a general way-was on ac-
count of armed guards.
| Odd you know that engineers
| had been complaining of, and that
there had been much discussion about
taking out engines, the bone of con-
tention being that, if an engineer be-
| 1ieved or thought an engine to be un-
safe and the master mechanic or his
representative believed it to be safe,
| the engineer must take it out or for
felt his job?
ably, but not specific case was of
fered to justify it.
Q.-At that time did you know that
they were complaining that trains
were coupled up and they We're given
clearance cards showing the number
of cars in the train, the number of
cars coupled up, in which the air was
coupled up, and the number of cars
that were operating, that is that the
brakes were operating all right on,
when there wasn't a single brake on
the whole train that was connected up
that operated at all?
Al never had any such case de-
scribed to me-
Or course you hadn't met any
OF the committees representing the
men until that morning?
A.-Until when?
Q.-Until the morning of the 18th. |
A.-The 18th or 10Th, and Mr.. Carr
on the 18th.
Odd you know at that time that |
there was any complaint about foam |
ing boilers or dirty boilers?
Al hadn't heard of any.
On your discussion with Mr.. /
Hitchcock over at the office, at the !
time you went over to have that letter |
settled or signed or accepted-that |
was on the 10Th, and after the meet /
ing had voted to accept Mr.. Hitch !
cocks letter, did you at that time /
consider that you were representing |
the men or representing Mr.. Hitch !
cock?
Al considered that | was repre-
senting my own organization.
Q.-And in your discussion with
Mr.. Hitchcock, you pointed out to him
the way in which the members had
violated their contract and various
things that they had done that they
should't have done, and did you in that
conversation point out to Mr.. Hitch
cock single thing that your mem
bers claimed that it shouldn't do?
Add | point it out?
Q.-Yes, to Mr. Hitchcock?
A.-No. because / hadn't been given
any evidence to justify it,
Q.-And you say that after that you
proceeded to Los Angeles How did
you come out of Needles to Los An
geles?
A.-By request of Mr. Woodbeck
came out of Needles in Mr. Hitch
cocks private car.
Q.-Mr. Woodbeck was able was he,
to arrange with Mr.. Hitchcock to
take you on his private car?
Ale requested me to speak to
Mr.. Hitchcock and have his seniority
restored that had been taken from
him on account of engaging in the
outlaw strike of 1920.
Q.-But whatever that was, there
was lot of feeling between a good
many men out west and yourself con-
cerning the outlaw strike OF 1920 re-
naming was there not?
A. A.-Remaining where?
ON the hearts of the men.
Al didn't quite follow you
Q.-Well, I don't care about dis
cussing the strike of 1920 so I will
withdraw that
Q.-Well that was the reason why,
anu II w do at Ills ui gent I6Qu6SC lldl
I saw Mr.. Hitchcock, and l asked Mr..
Hitchcock if I could see him for that
purpose, only to find out that Mr..
Woodbeck had engaged in an illegal
strike in 1920, and he asked me to ar
range to have his seniority restored,
and when I found out what he had
done I let loose of the case
Q.-But the fact is, without explain
jng to the men cut there anyone
other than Mr.. Woodbeck, that you
did go out of there in Mr. Hitchcock's
car or Mr.. Hibbard's whichever it
was, private car?
A.-UntH I discussed that, and then
left the car and went over on the.
other part of the train.
Mr. Rush.-That is all.