The New York herald., 1922-10-26
PAL OF MURPHY,
ADMITS HE BACKED BUSES
Continued from First Page.


Frank Higgins?"
"I made a contract-Frank Higgins
made a contract ia September or Octo-
ber year ago" Mccarthy added that
he had been buying motor trucks from
the International Motor Company since
1912. usually for use in his business.
why did you have your employee
Higgins. sign the contract"
THAT was my method Of doing It.
replied Charley Murphy's confidant as
phlegmatically as If 1t were the Tam
many boss himself speaking.
"You were the man who bought the
bus?'
"No. he bought the bus-I bought the
bus for him. Literally, 1t Is MS.
But not actually"
Actually 1t still is the property OF
the International Motor Company"
but when the bus is paid for. 1t
belongs TO you?"
II will determine that when l have
paid for IT,"
"On the face of the papers Higgins
has temporary title to 1t after you have
paid for It. but you do not pretend. do
you. that 1t Is not going to be your
bus?"
II may give it away. 1t may burn
up before it is paid for
!
paid for. 1t will fall to you, won't it,
"Unless / give 1t to somebody
You wounldn't contrn6ic, Higgins,
who saws he has no financial interest
in it, would your"
HE hasn't paid any money In IT,
Money talks. doesn't it?'
"In some places In others 1t doesnt.
1t doesn't talk in Eighty-sixth street
only half"
"Only half?, queried the examiner.
Yes" shot back the witness. "A ilVe
cent fare. Fifth avenue talks ten cents.
We'll, the money is talking pretty
loudly to-day" countered Shearn amid
the general laugh.
just Phoned to Whnlen.
Explaining how he came to embark IN
the bus business, Mccarthy said that In
July year ago the late Arthur J.
Murphy Ga Tammany leader in The
Bronx introduced him to Thomas F..
Lynch as a man who wanted to go into
the bus business.
Lynch was formerly in the State Tax
Department, wasn't hep interpolated
Shearn.
IT didn't know where he was. He had
made some little investigation Of the
buses, and I was very much interested
in the Eighty-sixth street buses. l had
been twenty-seven years walking across
from Broadway to Eighth avenue, and
then getting across to the East Side, and
when they put the buses on / was q
steady customer. They were rather
small, incomplete buses, and I thought
that If a man would get real bus 1t
would make q hit. So / sent for the
International Motor Company's man
and talked bus to him. Then called on
Commissioner Whalen and told him
there was a man Oynch) who would
attempt to put a real bus on the street
with shock absorbers and solid tires.
electric lights, ventilators heaters.
everything up to date, straps
Good, strong straps? interrupted
Shearn.
"Well, strong enough to hold man
like you or me-" replied the witness.
1T takes pretty strong strap to old
me, sometimes" retorted the examiner.
And when the sample bus arrived, -
the witness went on, II invited Commits
sfoner Whalen to come and see it. and
he was very much taken with it and
Immediately put 1t to work. 1t raised
the standard Of buses in New York"
We'll. that Is the way you got your
first permit for the first of the Lynch
buses, but i was asking you how ycu
went about getting the permit for Hlg-
gins?"
That did not come until long time
afterward. On the Higgins bus / simply
called Whalen up on the telephone and
told him / knew man who had another
bus Of the kind he liked The witness
said he purchased the buses in the names
Of, Allen and Mcdonald at the same
terms and got their permits in the same
manner and at the same time. simply by
calling up on the telephone the CommIs-
sioner of Plant and Structures
You Just called Whalen up on the
telephone and got these permits all on
the same day?"
Yes. sir: and IL you folks leave them
on the streets I'll try to get some more
for my poor friends
But I understand the line is now
closed to new buses"
You know more about that than l."
Il am learning more every day Az
any rate, you got these buses then or
this line that they say is the cream OF
all the lines just by calling up Whalen
on the telephone. You got the Mcdonald
bus and permit in the same way. Nc
Donald. an employee of yours, signed
the notes, you put up the cash and when
the bus is fully paid for. IL II does not
burn up In the meantime or If you don't
give 1t away, 1t will belong to your"
us there any crime in that. Judge?"
That is for my friend across the way
Mr.. Banton. to say, but l am not assert
ing any crime
why, Judge. these buses are the
greatest thing. You just ought to ride
in them They are beautiful buses. The
people wait for the other buses to pass
SO they can get in them"
"The Rotten PoIiticx.o
'I believe in all of it," conceded the
exapiner. except the rotten politics Of
it, Mr.. Mccarthy"
well, you know something about
politics." exclaimed Murphys boon
companion.
Did you also buy the buses for
Lynch?"
II arranged forlthe purchase Of them,
yes, SIR"
And did you put UP the money!"
mo, sir"
who put up the money!"
You will have to ask Lynch"
II haven't been able 70 find Lynch"
He is very large man, Judge,
weighs zoo pounds"
We'll, are you on any OF the notes
that were given in payment for Lynch's
buses?"
mo sir: don't sign notes"
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