The New York herald., 1922-05-18
Sees HELP TO HAGUE
in GENOA FAILURES
Lloyd George Says Capital
ism and Communism Can
not Be RecOnciled.
TOO MANY OPINIONS
Cause of Farley Breakdown
to Be Avoided at New
Conference.
EXPERTS TO CLEAR WAY
Premier in Statement Tells
What He Expects to Accom-
plish at Next Gathering.


Copyright, 1879, by THE New YORK HERALD
GENOA, May 17.-1n the following
statement made to-day, Prime Min.
lister Lloyd George tells what he ex.
poets at The Hague, and admits thai
the Genoa conference failed because
of the impossibility of reconciling the
principles of Communism with those
of capitalism.
II should like to say two or three
interesting things about what befel
Tchitcherin in his very interesting
opening statement. 1 am not going tc
say anything further of the exclusion
Of the Germans, for we discussed that
yesterday and assigned our reasons
which, 1 think, were fair and sound
1t is perfectly true that the Ger
mans will be excluded from discuss
ing credits; but before you ever get
to credits there is no doubt at all you
have got to clear away very difficult
questions in regard to private prop
erty and debts.
when you come to credits, more
over, it has been realized that Ger,
many is not country which at the
present moment can furnish credits to
anybodys The contribution cannot be
very substantial one, at any rate,
whereas, If she were present, she
would be taking part in the discus
sion of subjects she herself already
has come to an arrangement with the
Russian Government.
Can Help Russia's Problem.
"You cannot, OF course, exclude Ger
many from cooperating in the recon-
struction of Russia, and it would be
folly to attempt to do so. 1t is de-
sirable to get the cooperation Of all
who can make any contribution.
"In regard to place. Tchitcherin OBJ
jects to The Hague. Well, it is very
difficult thing to choose a place. He
suggested two capitals, Rome and Lon
don. Let us speak quite frankly
about this. We have represented
certain point of view here which has
not been accepted by the representa-
tives Of every country OF Europe, and
/ think il desirable that the discus
sion should take place. when it does
take place, within an atmosphere re-
moved from any definite point Of view.
"The Hague is a place international
lied by tradition, where you have had
great international questions discussed
in the past and where there is the
necessary international atmosphere.
The same might not apply to Amstcr-
dam, which has very definite views on
the subject; but The Hague has no
views, and no right to views on any
thing, because it is an international
center. That's the advantage of The
Hague. The place of meeting must
necessarily be a point where the views
of the majority must prevail.
There is no question of the princi-
pie involved. but a question Of the con-
venience Of the-ma jority of the people
to go there. There are certain things
the majority cannot decide, such as
questions of principle like those that
have been under discussion here; but
in the question of convenience / sug-
gest to the Russian delegation that the
views Of the majority must necessarily
prevail.
Too Many Differences.
"I now come to another observation
made by Tchitcherin which, cannot
allow to pass unchallenged. He said
that we failed to come TO an agree
ment here because we discussed things
separately. We'll, it's no use our con.
cealing the facts from ourselves. be.
cause they have the unpleasant habit
of coming to the surface again after
we have buried them.
THE real fact is that there has beer
such a divergence of opinion on ques.
tions of vital principle that 1t wa,
found impossible to reconcile them
Therefore we have had to try to ap
proach problem from different point
of view, seeing whether we canno
reconcile these Emergencies i'm practic,
IL we cannot in principle.
THAT is why we are relegating Il
to experts, TO explore the ground C
I
superable practical objections. Their,
is no doubt at all that the two system.
are quite irreconcilable-the system
in Russia and that obtaining in Other
parts of the world. They are becom.
ing nearer. After all, there is vast
amount OF private property in Russia
Nominally the land is nationalized
but In reality II is under peasant pro.
prietorship. There is no use trying
to conceal that fact, for no one car
turn the peasants out OF tLeir land
whatever DEGREES are issued by Mos.
COW. II will result in the end in the
same system followed in the French
revolution--a system OF peasant pro.
prietorship.
History and Tchiteherin.
at is a very daErerous thing. how
ever, 10 discuss history with TchitcL.
erin. have observed that, and |
hope he will not follow my example
rhe rst of Nav ne somctnnF ta FeasVn to n
with II, too. It is very unfortunate
that we should have met on the first
Of May, because things happened in
Russia which gave undue prominence
to certain principles. They lad their
repercussion or reaction even AZ far
as Rapallo And they had an IN.