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King CUtah) to demand when and
where the Government assumed such
a debt. Mr.. McCumber made no at
tempt to answer this question.
Another statement by Mr.. McCum-
ber which provoked a prompt retort
from Mr.. Borah was that "the Gov
ernment had reduced the national
debt by $4,000 10000 during the last
two years"
EYES," was the dry comment Of
Senator Borah, most Of it through
the sale OF war material which has
been disposed of and cannot be sold
again"
Mr.. Borah's impressive speech
marked high spot in an otherwise
uninteresting debate, although there
were a number of developments con-
nected with the cloture proposition
under discussion that came in for a
great deal of merited attention. One
of these was the program practically
decided on at a conference of Repub-
ncan Senators last night.
Conference at Lodge Home.
1t was held at the residence of Sem
,ator Lodge, the majority leader, to
consider the next step in the plan to
expedite the tariff toward a vote. A
dozen of the leading Republican solons,
including Senators Curtis. McCumber
Kellogg, Watson of Indiana. Brande-
gee, Mccormick, Lenroot and Elkins,
participated.
Anticipating the rejection of the
cloture petition by the Senate to-mor-
row, which would require 81 votes. the
Senate leaders attempted to devise
some plan for shaking off the Demo-
cratic f1libuster and reaching vote
not later than August Is. 1t was de-
cided to make an effort to negotiate an
agreement with the Democratic minor
ity and half a dozen Republican Sena-
tors, who are opposed to the tariff, by
which vote might be obtained at the
time specified through elimination Of
discussion on all except the "key"
schedules, like wool, cotton. hides and
other staples.
AS a result Of the conference, 1t is
probable such an agreement will be
sought. One thing the conference set
tied was that the kellogg plan to in
woke cloture by majority vote would
be dropped because of the almost cer-
tain rejection of it by the Senate.
All the Senators at the Lodge con-
ference, except Mr.. McCumber, ex-
pressed the belief that the President
would veto the McCumber bonus bill
because it fails to meet the objections
raised by him.
Many wild and mild suggestions
for financing the bonus were proposed
by different Senators around Mr..
Lodges mahogany. None Of these ap-
peared to appeal to the judgment Of
the majority of the diners. The sales
tax was brought up for the hundredth
time because the President expressly
stated that he regarded it as the most
logical way of finding the bonus
money. Mr.. Lodges Senatorial guests,
however, agreed it would be waste of
time to take UP the proposal.
VIII See Harding Again.
The upshot of the bonus discussion
was that another effort will be made
, to reach an agreement with the Presi-
dent on the subject Senator McCum
Der was urged to try again to see il
he could produce plan that woult
stand a chance of getting by Presi
dental veto. While he Is doing so Sen
ators Lodge Curtis and Watson of In
diana will confer with the Presiden
on his return from Marion and seel
light on certain specific points al
though they do not entertain tn,
SIiobtaS+ Jo,,l@t of tho onSxrya~
The Senate leader and his two as
sociates will bluntly ask the Presi
dent If he vii, sign the McCumbe
bill If it is sent to him. If they re
ceive the negative answer, which the,
expect, they will then attempt t
swerve the President from his pres
ent position by drawing a patheti
picture of the political distress of som,
of their colleagues who still think tn,
politicians in the American Legion cal
elect or defeat them.
If tho President declines to be moved
by the fearful appeals of these timi'
Senators the future of the bonus bill
appears to be extremely dubious. Sew
eral Senators who participated in tn,
conference last night, admitted the.
did not know just what could be don
about the matter. A number of then
expressed the opinion to-day that th
best thing to do would be to postpon
action on 1t, as suggested by the Presi
dent in his letter to Mr.. Fordney, b,
which he has stood with unwaveriny
firmness.
Fears for Subsidy Bill.
Another project that did not fin
favor with the Republican leaders a
Mr.. Lodges home last night was tn
ship subsidy bill. With few excep
tions the Senators who drank tn
Massachusetts, statesman's grape juic
agreed that the merchant marine bi
which the President so greatly de
sires presents many awkward prob
lems,' the chief of which is that
would probably be talked to death
Most of the Senators expressed tn
opinion that the row raised by tn
Anti-Saloon League over the sale G
liquor on American ships has com
plicatcd the subsidy situation an
aroused unexpected opposition to it.
Senator Lodge volunteered to in
form the President Of this situatio
and to suggest that the shipping bi
be allowed to hold over until the shor
session of Congress. when its chance