The New York herald., 1922-10-31

have meant that don't know. bu
j presume he meant that" STAN
mered Reidl
You aie telling me what he said
anyhow. regardless OF what you un
derstood he meant? You then re-
fused to put up that Se5. .000T' aslet
Mr.. SheaIn.
Yes. | did" the witness replied.
Reidl continued that he met O'Con.
nor again by appointment on Friday
the next day. which was September
10. in "a Franklin street restaurant
He said G'Connor asked him If hc
realized that the thing was not joke
The witness then continued:
II said: We'll. haven't got over i;
yet.' He said. You had better &c
and get over it. Otherwise he says
YOU are going 70 have lot Of trouble
in that bus business said: j
really don't know; i can't make you
out. II yon need a couple OF hlNdred
dollars for yourself you know you
I give II 10 you: but coming around
and asking me for ss5 ec1 ! can't
see IT,,
why lie said. you know I don't
want that money for myself. you
know that l says, I presrme you
! don't Otherwise. he ,ays. Il
wouldn't have come down - you and
talked 'to vou.' ! said 10 him. 4
really don't believe you mean what
you are saying
"'I have 10 mean what say he
says. because / got to have it,
says. We'll, can't do IL. DAN
tried TO keep stalling him off. telling
him ! might see somebody anyhow"
Reid said there had been news
paper story published that morning
TO the effect that there was $1,000. 900
behind him in this new bus PROPOSE
ton. OConnor had referred to this
he said. and had told him: You
ought TO go to those million dollar
! fellows and tell them it is necessary
/ to bring that money up in order tc
/ start this thing right. Otherwise
you will be having a lot of trouble"
The saloon Meeting.
OConnor called up the witness and
there was another meeting between
them that night in q saloon at Beck
man and Nassau streets. There he
started the same thing about the $25.,
time enough to produce it, he says
Now he says. Il know you have the
lmoney with YOU. but you simply hate
TO part with it.
mo / says. If / had $4,000 witt
me would show it to YOU He says:
I know you have. got the money witt
you. but you don't like to part witt
s25.000.' | opened my coat and said
You can go through my clothes.
have got $500 or $500 with me. and i
! that will help you you can have it Il
1t is for your own USE
He says: They will cripple yos
within twenty-four hours. Just a.
quick as they got you In they will ge'
you out
II says: If it is going to be that way
/ will take it as 1t goes. but will put
up a fight
1T wouldn't help you a bit to figh
against any of those fellows he says
You will just make fool out of your
self by starting fight
81 can't make any more fool out oI
myself by starting fight /. says
than you make q fool out OF yoursei'
asking me for ss5.o0o.' Then w
parted
did he give you any information al
to the identity OF the person or person:
for whom he was asking this?"
Il says: Dan. that isn't for yourself.
He says: No. I wouldn't know wha
to do with $50. 900: it wouldn't las
long with me- I says: For who is IT.
would ike to know
why he said. you know you die
not ge. that franchise just because 20,
were Louis Reidl. They did not know
you Somebody had to push you up.
l says: For who is it? What is th'
idea?
'IIe said: 1T is not for Red Mike
"It is not for Red Mike?' l says
Mayor Hylan? Why don't you tell ms
for who ii is?'
HE says. You know a good soldiel
doesn't ask any questions: he jus
goes and obeys orders ! says. :
wouldn't obey an order like that fol
anything That was ALL"
did he say II was for any publ,
ofiicial?" asked Mr.. Snearn.
.He did not exactly say. He sale
it was for The Big Chief 1 know i
was not for him. replied Reid.
did he identify The Big Chief as &
man who was in the public service?'
"He did not say exactly. asket
him and said. You don't mean it II
for Joe Guider? because I know Jot
Guider too well and he would not 81
to work and do a thing like that. HI
said, They have nothing to do will
that; the matter had been taken ou
OF Guider's hands altogether
"rhen. in substance. he told you or
that Friday night that If you did no
come over with that $4,000 some
thing would happen to your bus busi
ness within twenty-four hours?''
"Yes, sir; he said he was goins
away over Saturday and Sunday Will
Joe Fennelly out in the country ant
he would give me time until Monday
morning. But ] told him. You will
never get that money"
Chased From the Buses.
When Mr.. Shearn asked whether
anybody had overheard the conversa
ton he had with O'Connor In tn,
Eeckman street saloon the witncs!
said q man whom he did not know
/ had heard It, but he said he coult
describe tho man.