The New York herald., 1922-10-10
HARVARD DEFEATS
OXFORD IN DEBATE
Upholds Negative That United
States Should Join League
of Nations.
VOTE rs 1914 TO 1000
Oxonians Handicapped by Ill
ness of Their Leading De-
batter, Lindsay.

Special Dispatch to THE NEw YoRK HERALD
BosroN, Oct. 9.-The Harvard Uni
versity debating team won it's debate
tonight over oxford on the question
"That the United States should join
Immediately the League OF Nations"
The vote of the audience. on which
the decision was rendered, was 1914 for
the negatiye. taken by Harvard, to 1000
for the affirmative, debated by the
Englishmen.
The debate was held in Symphony
Hail before an audience that packed the
auditorium. The Oxonians were handi-
capped by the sudden illness of Kenneth
Lindsay. one Of their team and the one
most depended upon to lead the affirma-
tive. He was forced to remain in bed
at the Faulkner Hospital and only two
of the visiting team were heard.
Nearly 5000 were present when for
mer Gov. Samuel w. Mccall led the op-
posing debating teams to the platform.
Both debaters from Oxford made elo-
quent appeals to the people Of the United
States 20 come into the League Of Ma
tions for the sake Of the civilized
| world"
During the argument Of Maurice C.
]
made a reference to former President
Wilson declaring that "a little Wilson Is
a dangerous thing. and am not going
to embark. upon it..
There was a hiss from somewhere in
the hall, but the incident otherwise went
unnoticed.
To offset the appeal made by the OK
ford men the quickness of the Harvard
debaters was noticeable. This was par
ticularly emphasized when r s. Tanning
'23 of the Harvard team. began his
argument.
Referring to remark Of Mr.. Mccall,
chairman Of the evening. that the nations
who betrayed England and who either
are or were in an alliance with the un-
speakable Turk have forfeited all claims
to the good will Of America, Mr.. Fan
! ming said
THE worst example of ali regarding
the conditions In Asia Minor is that the
war in Asia Minor was begun by an in
vasion Of Asia Minor by Grecian armies
and this invasion was sanctioned explic-
lily by the allied Governments in con-
ference at San Reno. The climax came
when Armenia was handed back to the
unspeakable Turk"
Tanning. in opening the negative side
said: America can't be q partner to
violated trusts. After the treaty OF
Paris we heard a good deal about the
new regime in foreign affairs that was
TO start immediately, and one of the
newest features was to be open cove
nants, openly arrived at. Primarily the
new day was to be inaugurated by a
new method of handling the conquered
territories of the Central Powers. Yet
! hardly had the supervision under the
league begun before plans developed
as to the administration OF this sacred
trust These territories were treated az
conquered lands always have been treat.
| ed. The old regime has also como back
| in its most utterly Objectionable form
that is In secret diplomacy and intrigue
| Edward Majoribanks. representing
Oxford. delivered the first address or
the affirmative side, in which he said :
| Il would say that the league woult
willingly change its constitution II only
America could see her way to join. Tt
the statement that the league is weak ]
can only reply that IL is In Its begin.
ming. We should have had a very
different story TO tell IL America hat
entered the league"
r. S. Bowers, "a, of Harvard, con.
tinued the argument for the negative
| The League of Nations" he said
lacks unanimity OF purpose. and were
the United States to enter, instead OF
promoting unanimity of purpose II
would merely strengthen one factor OF
another. and whetaer or not 1t would
strengthen that factor which promoted
the best ideals of the league there would
be no means of knowing
z. r. Harmel. '2S. the third Harvard
| debater, warned against America "be.
ing led astray through desire to get the
world on it's feet"