The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1922-10-11

OF Hall and Mrs. Mills were found by
Pearl and Schneider.
Apparently. even when coming I'm the
dusk from a place In which the bodies
of two murdered persons had been found
the mysterious old farmhouse had no ter
rors for Mrs. Schneider. This Is wha,
tho BANNER girl says as 70 her visit
there:
II showed her the spot at which Ray
mond and found the two bodies. II
was nearly dark. Mrs. Schneider said
Let's go TO the house | had not known
there was a house there though Ray
mond and had been in the fields there
many times. We walked 10 the back
Y door of the house and Mrs. Schneider
tried the door 1t was locked. She
i reached in to her bag anG took out a
key and opened the door. Then she
turned TO me and sad IL was the key
70 her house In South River. 1 was
afraid TO go in. 1t YVES very dark.
''She went In as though she knew the
place She stayed about ten minutes.
! don't know how many rooms she went
into. Then she came out. No she didn't
bring anything with her except some
magazines she had been carrying"
The pertinence Of this lies in the fact
that the house fully furnished as II Is
and clean as though the occupants had
just gone out has been regarded from
the first as in some way connected with
the crime. score OF clews have led
to.it, but a thorough search of the place
has revealed nothing except small evil
dences of recent occupancy.
Formally charged with the murder as
Hayes was to-day in Somerville, he was
as confident tonight as ever that his
complete innocence would be established.
There are indications. too. that the very
men who had him put in jail do not be-
lieve him guilty. Hayes had talk
of more than four hours with his coun-
sci. Thomas Hagerty. who called in on
the case Thomas Brown, formerly a
State Senator. The two lawyers took
as far as he could remember. In the
ten days preceding the murder.
He Promises a Sensation.
Tonight Mr.. Brown in a statement
said:
'gThis is the first time I have seen
this boy. As / listened to his story
realize that when 1t Is told 1t will open
the public eyes. We are not going TO
rake any statement tonight, however.
Young Hayes is wonderful boy, honest,
STRAIGHTFORWARD, clean minded. / have
thesutmost confidence in him."
The striking entry Of the BANNERS,
father and daughter, into the case Will
vie with the arrest of Hayes as to un-
expectedness BANNER has been known
to the police of New Brunswick for
years and at times they have used him.
He has been interviewed a dozen times
since the bodies of Hall and Mrs. Mills
we're discovered and at no time was he
noticeably sober. To-day he was in his
usual condition, OF which he is far from
ashamed
Pearl BANNER has been questioned
several times because of her intimacy
with Schneider. She was called to the
court house again to-day and after she
had been questioned. was taken before
Judge Peter +. DAILY. She told him she
was II years old and she freely adj
mtted. as she had 10 the detectives, her
relationship with Schneider. She de-
MED. at first that such relationship
had ever existed between her and any
one, else.
Then the Judge asked her point blank
about her father and she told the story
that led to the issuance Of the warrant
fors BANNER She said that her fatHer
had attacked her on the Thursday night
OF the murder, thus confirming part
of the story told by Schneider. Hayes
and Kaufman, who were following the
pait.
unaware Father Was Held.
After he had heard her story Judge
DAILY held the girl for a week on a
charge OF incorrigibility continuing the
case He said he felt, all things con-
s.dered that the girlrwould be better of
IN tail than in her own home. She had
no ldea at the time that her father was
to be arrested.
The arrest of BANNER can be credited.
MOTTO the county detectives, but to the
local police, who have remained out OF
theAcase, much to the surprise of every
one outside the charmed Beekman-
Stricker-Toolan circle. 1t was accom-
plished about $50 tonight by Policeman
Joseph Curran. who saw BANNER ridins
in an automobile and knowing there
was an alarm out for him picked him
up.N David the detective. had been
seeking for BANNER for two hours.
BANNER was at once arraigned before
Judge Daily and was told OF the charge
against him. The complaint had been
signed by Detective Fitzpatrick. The
date mentioned as that Of the particular
charge was July 10. Bahmer said that
Pearl was his own daughter and volun-
teered the information that It would be
shown to be impossible for him to have
committed the crime charged. He was
held in $4,000 bail and tonight was
in Jail, where his lawyer. Paul w.
Ewing, visited him. In New Jersey the
crime of incest Is punishable by i'm
prisonment for fifteen years or a fine
Of $4,000 or both.
Rahmer Admits He Had n Gun.
In Jail BANNER talked freely before
he saw his lawyer. He admitted that
on the night of the murder he had a az
caliber pistol. but said he had borrowed
Il and that Il had not been In his pos
session before or since. He was asked
again as to the caliber and laughed
Sure 1t was forty-five. Don't you
think 1 know the difference between q
thirty-two and a forty-five7''
n was .32 With which Hall and
Mrs. Mills were killed. Asked IL he
knew who committed the murder. after
he had said that he did not, BANNER
said he believed he did know, and that
81 was not Hayes. He felt, he said. he
could get down on his knee and swear
IL was not Hayes. He recalled In this
connection that II was Schneider who
was looking for his daughter Pearl that
night, not Hayes
The Dodge car that has come into
his possession since the murder. BANNER
said. was bought by the woman now
regarded as the stepmother OF Pearl
She got an inheritance from an uncle
in Trenton. When asked from whom
he had borrowed the AS BANNER an
swered Now you're going too deep
BANNER Details Moves.