Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1922-01-09

opposed the joint committee proposed
by Michael Collins.
| George Gavan Duffy demanded that
F., Mr.. De Valera tell the dali what his
policy would be if he were reelected.
De Valera Outlines Policy.
| Mr. De Valera replied that the re-
public must continue until the people
by an election disestablished it. He
was quite ready during the interval.
he said, to help maintain the inde-
rendence of Ireland.
, He said that until the treaty was
put into legislative form and worked
out the people would not understand
I what it meant He called the treaty
! only "a vague promise
! The dali must continue. he declared.
until the people could decide between
! the treaty and the Irish republic. He
challenged the supporters of the treaty
i to AN election after the treaty was put
| into operation.
! +. j. Hogan said the people had
right to decide Immediately, and he
| asked for a speedy election.
William Sears contended that the
dali had ratified the treaty and that
the world would go accept it.
| John MacIntee of Monaghan argued
that England had not yet given Ireland
| the constitution for the free state, and
that until the terms of the treaty were
carried out the republican government
must be continued.
| 1--WE WIFI" Shout Leaders.
| MacIntee urged keeping the resources
| of Ireland intact, so they could fight
F! IF England let's us down"
John McKeown and Michael Collins
both jumped up at this, shouting: I'VE
will"
Mr.. De Valera said that if he were
reelected no effort of his would be
| made to obtain a joint cabinet.
| Il don't want the office at ALL" he
| declared. Then, looking at Griffith
| and Collins, he added:
You have majority with your
sixty-four votes Elect your own
Apresident."
William Cosgrave, a strong advocate
of the treaty, and Mr.. De Valera
Scores Minority Rule.
| Cosgrave, who is minister of local
government, said the essence of the
! position of the treaty's opponents was
| that they did not want to see the
| treaty carried out. He submitted that
the suggestion for the reelection of
| the president unconstitutional and the
resolution calling for it out of order,
! the only motion that was in order
being the Collins motion for JOINT
committee.
The government of the country, de-
clared CoSgraVe, must continue and
nothing should be done to upset the
existing status of the dali and there
| by endanger the working out of the
i l.. ~.
government, he asserted, If the gov
eminent were given into the control
! of a minority.
| Richard Mulcahy, chief of staff of
| the republican army, said the dali
; had carried on at first without a
president of the republic. and, if nee
essary, could do so again. He OPP
posed President De Valera's re-elec-
| ton on the ground that Mr.. De Va
| lera and his associates w"r" Unable
| to cooperate in the work Of carry
! ing out the treaty.
Demands DE valera Surrender.
| John Milroy said that Mr.. De Valera
! and his assistants, having been de-
! feated, the only constitutional step
to take was for the defeated party
to surrender their authority to the
| majority side.
| Mr. De Valera nodded his nea and
said, Hear, hear when Milros
quoted MIR. De Valera as having de-
clared he would accept the vote on
the treaty as defining the will of
, the dali on the issue.
i Every deputy who voted iur the
4! treaty, Milroy asserted, was abso-
! lutely obligated to help carry it out.
| Countess Markievicz declared it
| was shameful that President De Va
lera. in resigning, should be accused
; of political trickery.
Stop Talking, Collins Urges
! The thing to do was for the mem
| bers to cease talking and begin
! working, Collins declared They had
| to take over Ireland from the English
| and get the English out of Ireland.
| This involved practical difficulties,
! which they must face. He and his
| friends would do the difficult and
/ dirty work." he said. but there ought
also to be a joint committee for the
preservation of public order.
Mr.. De Valera replied that they must
proceed constitutionally. This was
sovereign assembly of the Irish peo-
pie and should choose it's own execu-
| tive, he declared.
Arthur Griffith said that the dali. in
approaching the treaty. had expressed
! the will of the people. That will
would stand, he declared.
| . Notes Impotence of Public.
Patrick O'Mally protested that
| there should be notice of such action
| as this. Michael Collins. however,
| remarked that, of course, all this had
| been anticipated. The members of
the dali would be fools if they had
not anticipated it, he considered
Collins added that the people were
j getting impatient and that if the
! members went on much longer the
| people would come in and turn them
out, or the people would boycott them
and let them go on talking as long
as. they liked. They should get the
! men on their side now to meet the
| men on the English side and arrange
| for taking over the country.
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