The Telegraph-courier. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1888-1946, 1922-01-12

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time I gave him anything I gave him
check for $4,000. I owed him $4,000. !
Q-Did you borrow that from him ? J
Al borrowed that from him a long
time ago. He used to have an office
under our office. 1 borrowed that from
him once.
Q-Did he discover any gambling
places here in Kenosha.
Al don't remember whether rhe |
found any gambling or not. I know
he told me about Grant and Ole, that |
they were gambling ever there.
Didn't he hold them up?
Al don't think so.
Q-Wasnt money paid to you to give
to him?
A-Not a nickel.
Q-For them?
A-Not nickel.
Q-That has been stated
A-That is absolutely wrong. That
fellow was never in position to have
anything. Why would he be paid any
thing?
OF don't know. My understanding
was that it was paid to him to keep
him quiet.
Al don't think so. Of course,
don't know. Maybe that fellow got
some money. l never knew anything
about. I never handled it. 1t never
came to me one way or the other,
either through me, or through him to
me.
Hired by Supervisor.
Q-Who was it in Somers who hired
him?
Aft am not mistaken it was Bar
rows and Gardiner. I don't know
whether the other supervisor was with
them or not.
Q-Where does he live?
A-Out in the town of Somers. He
is not supervisor now. think he
lives on the Lake Shore road some
place now.
Q-Now I want to know definitely
about that $4,000. Wasn't that paid
to you, and wasn't it received by you,
for bribe?
A-Well, don't see how I can say
EYES," because if am going to repeat
the conversation I will have to say I
asked him for it as a loan. I never
asked these fellows for money; RI
never had nerve enough.
Q-Why was it given to you in cash
there at the hotel if it was an honest
transaction?
A-Of course, he probably figured
he didn't want to give me any check;
people would be suspicious; but we
didn't have any conversation about that
to the extent enough so that 1 could
say.
Thought it avs a Favor.
Didn't you say so to me the 9th
er day?
Al told you that I thought that
he was doing me that favor for
Q-For what good you could do for
him?
Ayes, sir.
Q-And you didn't thing it was
lawful transaction, did you, at any
time?
A-oh, well, I don't know.
Q-What kind of protection did you |
think he was bargaining for?
Al don't know; there wasn't any
thing said about that
Q-You knew then he had been vio-
lating the law, didn't you?
A-Well, / presume so.
Q-In what respect?
A-Well, at that time we had re-
ports on him selling liquor, suppose
Q-You had received the daily re-
ports of the agents of the investigat-
ors who had discovered he was selling |
liquor?
Ayes, think so.
Q-And you knew he was working |
with Gales in selling liquor in large |
quantities?
A-No, we didn't have much on
that time that showed the stuff that |
has come out now.
Q-Had Mrs. Murray seen you at
that time?
A-No, I am sure it was after that
she saw me.
Q-Your idea in calling on him for
the loan was because
-Qnterrupting) I thought he |
would accommodate me.
Figured He Had the Money.
Q-(Continuing) because of the
fact that he had violated the law?
A-Well, I figured he had the
money.
Ole made it on sales of whiskey |
Al have told you the honest truth.
Cor gambling?
A-No, never heard of him gamb-
ling, except slot machines.
Q-But sales of liquor?
AT that time I didn't have any
idea they were handling liquor in the
way it has developed they were. All |
we had was small stuff.
Q-How did you know he had money; |
from where did he get it?
Al figured he had been making
money out Of these machines, and one
thing and another.
Q-Machines and other law viola
tons?
Ale made money in place he ran
and sold out at big prices.
Q-In addition to the money he
made running machines, you thought
he had made money in violation of
the liquor laws, didn't you?
Almighty little, because 1 didn't |
have anything on him at that time.
Yes, I understood that he had some
thing to do with it.
Q-You thought he was in partner
chin with Gales didn't vou2