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The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1922-12-13

Hurry motherl A teaspoonful of
"california Fig Syrup" today may
prevent q sick child tomorrow II
your child is constipated, bilious,
fretful. has cold. collie, or II stomach
10 sour, tongue coated, breath bad,
remember a good liver and bowel
action is often all that is necessary,
The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1922-12-13

A London mans alrplnne will he
fitted with on
radiophone so that he can transact
business while travelling through tho
air.
The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1922-12-13

at the passing Of that eminent Phil
adelphian, John Wanamaker, whose
vision and ideals squared business
with right and who gave America
its conception OF large business done
for the public veal"
WASHINGTON, Dec. 12.-The
flag on the postoffice building
where no served as postmaster
general flew at half mast today In
honor OF John wanamaker, phila-
delphia merchant, the news OF whose
death came as a shock 20 official
and business circles IN the national
capital
The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1922-12-13
GARAGE FIRE IN K. c., MO.

Damage Estimated at 100000 Re
suits From Second Fire In "a Hours.
KANSAS CITY, Mo, Dec. "a
Damage estimated at approximately
100000 today is the result OF Kan
The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1922-12-13

uSSui lOuS uieulCu Cl lllllilS ECIt-
land cement sacks--6lling them
upside down after they have been
tied-is astriking prog
ress made in industrial processes.
Until twenty years ago, cement
sacks were filled practically as all
other sacks always had been You
had a huge bin Of this hner-than.
-four material A workman at the
door Of the bin hung a sack up,
with its mouth open, on a wooden
frame and filled it with an ordi-
nary shovel Then he set it on a
scale, and with a hand scoop ad-
iusted the weight cf the contents
to the exact % pounds required,
after which he tied the sack by
hand and tossed it on a truck to
be hauled into a freight car.
Thatwas the way asittle as twenty
years ago, and no one had thought
much of doing it differently.
But now what happens?
The cement is taken from the
bin by an automatic conveyor-a
moving belt or bucket chain-and
elevated and dumped into the hop
per OF a filing machine. This is a
small bin with an elaborate mech
anism including fan inside; and
at the bottom OF it is a / inch spout
through which the cement flows
like water. The filler sits at the
spout. Sacks have been brought to
him already tied at the top but
with an opening guarded by a
valve at the bottom. The filler slips
the opening over the spout and
turns on the cement When the
sack is filed to exactly % pounds
it tips scale, automatically turns
of the cement, and with little
push from the filler falls on an.
other moving belt that carries it
out and drops it at the freight car
door.
BY the old method, a team Of four
men could fill and load l 900 sacks
day. BY the new method, a sim
liar team can Fill and load 5000.
The filling machine is costly, and
royalties must be paid on thevalve
sack process, but the new arrange
ment has meant a considerable
labor saving. 1t has meant espe-
cially that the manufacturers have
been able TO get their product out
more promptly to users during the
rush period Of summer and fall
Forinthat period laborof the kind
required for sacking and loading
is generally hard to get.
Even with the improvements, a
medium sized plant one produc-
ing a million barrels of cement
year and ndemploying not more than
300 people altogether-musr nor
mally employ 60 people in its sack.
ing and loading department.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

excclled us in certain particulars be-
cause of climatic or other conditions
governing production, but, by ana
large volume of the raw materials OF
foodstuffs, of minerals, of coal ana
lumber are produced within tn Dor
ders of the United States than in any
other country in the world. We are
natures storehouSe Of raw material
and we have assisted and augment
ed nature in her boumdleSs productlV-
itv by reason of our greater capacity
for the stimulation of production, ana
by our ceaSeleSS energy IN seeing that
the market Of that production IS al
ways kept up.
Here then is the ideai point Of orr
gin for foreien trade. a nation fully
equipped, willing and abb to more
than supply its native demand and 10
have a comfortable surplus production
for international interchange And
every section of the United States con-
tributes its quota Of production to
make up and add t. this imposing
total.
1t is impossible for any geogra-
uhical division of the United States to
contend that it is not interested IN
the DEVELOPMENT of foreign trade. The
Central West. with its tremendous re-
sources of corn and who 1t and cattle;
the South, with its cotton and alfalfa;
the Rocky Mountain Region and the
Pacific Coast, with it's materials; the
Northwest. with It's myriad acres of
grain: the Pennsylvania Appalachian
Region. W tn its priceless deposits Of
anthracite and bituminous coal; the
Southwest and South, the West of the
Mississippi, with It's oil, all are illus
lrativns Forming part Of th" picture
as a whole.
Statistics mean much or little. ac-
cordine to the Interpretation placed
noon them. but it is significant that
.a every one of the natural resources,
last quoted, there is now and always
las been sufficient production 70
warrant the establishment of pros
porous foreign trade.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
THE PIPER

When April is piper, and you'h Is
Apli's song, ,.c....
When wistful buds are hi'nS
their faces to the sky
When birds fly northward iIee'iy'
and new leaves whisper Sweety
Their secrets to the low breeze
that brushes gently by;.
Then dreams that have lam silent
beneath the winter cold
Resin to breathe, to qWcEen'-to
raise their eager eyes.
And life seems all unfolding; ana
Oh. there is no holding 80,
TIE days that pass as swiftly as
vivid butterflies -,
When April is a challenge, and youth
is Aprira hope,
Az Nature stands eXpectant' TO
hear the pledge tno% take -,
For April is the ma$'rr. and youth
fal hearts beat faster,
And i'm the glowing hmuIt VINO
knows what heart ~ break !
There is no looking backward, there
is no vain regret,
There is no promise giVen-Wiia'
promises last long?
There is no slow deciding, Tor ro-
nance may come riding,
And who would keep HIM waiting
when youth is Apru's song!
Margaret l.. Sangster
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
THEABCOF
FOREIGN TRADE
Unlimited Resources OF the United
States Make it the Logical
Leader in Export Trade

As soon as any country reaches 4
stage Of productivity wherein the mn
mediate wants of its population are
satisfied there is born a natural and
logical demand on the part of the pro
ducerS in that country for trade wlth
other countries, but if the productivity
of any country is sut:i'iet merely 10
meet domestic demand, any foreign
trade developed by that country is dl-
rectly at the expense of its own popu-
latiOn.
Governments have been quick to rec
ogniZe this condition. which, OF course
is met by the placing of embargoes or
the locking of the gates of its ports
against certain commodities. Usually
the condition obtains i'm wartime, but
there are instances in history's pages
where the embargo has been invoked
in times of peace.
Ii is Il significant fact IN STUDYING
the histories of trade DEVELOPMENT in
the different countries Of the world
that the ingneUity, energy AMI eff
cheney Of the people of the United
States have been so great that the
subject of under production, or pro-
duction less than that needed to sup
My domestic dcmond, has hardly ever
been raised. Rather. there has been
a surplusage not only of raw mater
ial. but also of manufactured commo-
dities and SO sl,illfullv have the Am
erican business men Judged the ultl-
mate requirements of the Nation that
there has been always a comfortable
margin of supply to take care of c2
port demand
In great part this is because Of th"
fact that. as one Of the nations most
favored by nature, the United States
has always been q leader in the pro-
duction Of all commodities grown or
mined. Our tremendous resources Of
raw materials have enabled the Unit
ed States to command q definite posi-
ton in the market of the world.
True enough, other countries have
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
CAL0N[L SALIVATES
EVEN WHEN CAREFUL.
Trcachcrous Drug Can Not Be Trust
cd and Next Dose may start
Trouble

Calomei is dangerous. 1t may sal
ivate you and make you suffer fear
fully from soreness Of gums, tender
ness Of Jaws and teeth, swollen tongue
and excessive saliva dribbling from
the mouth. Don't trust caIomel. 1t
is mercury; quicksilver.
If you feel bilious, headachy, con-
stipated and all knocked out, Just 90
to your druggist and get bottle OF
Dodson's Liver Tone for a few cents
which is a harmless vegetable sub
stitute for dangerous calomen. Take
a spoonful and if it doesn't start your
liver and straighten you up better and
quicker than nasty calomel and with
out making you sick, you just go
back and get your money. -,
If you take calomei today you i
be sick and nauseated tomorrow; be.
sides. it may salivate you, while II
YOU take Dodson's Liver Tone you
will wake up feeling great. No salts
necessary. Give it to the children
because it is perfectly harmless and
can not salviate.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
FAIRFAX NEWS

The board Of directors of the Far
fax and Loudoun LIGHT and Power
Co.. will meet in the Office OF mos
X. Keith, of Fairfax, t. make plans
for lighting the town OF Fairfax
Mr. c Vernon Ford is not improv,
ing very rapidly. He has been sent
to Garfield Hospital for treatment
Rev. J. c. Thurcber has been re
appointed here for Southern Memo
dist Church by Conference OF the
NJ Z. Church South.
Rev. ]. W. Seary has been appoint
ed to East Fairfax charge me
Tavern will open Wednesday OF TINS
week under the direction OF [. H.
Joll, of Ashburn, LouGoun County
The new furniture will arrive tne
latter part Of the week, and IT IA
expected they will be doing a flour
ishing business by first Of next week
Peytcn Ballenecr who was indict-
ed for selling arient spirit, was
found not guilty.
The play for benefit Of town hall,
has been postponed on account OF
sickness of some of the cast.
The Live Wire" Glass Of NJ. f.
Church. will hold a supper IN town
hall Friday. at 1870 o'clock. Proc aeds
to help install electric lights in
church
The board of supervisors will meet
Wednesday. April ), to discuss sev-
eral important questions.
Mr.. c. n. Stuart, OF Burke. has
been appointed to fill vacancy
caused by the death Of \. c. Davis,
Of Occoquan.
Representative R. Walton Moore
has been requested to present bill
in Congress to establish a govern
ment building at Dominion Heights.
Capt. J. y. Ballard who has been
somewhat under the weather for the
past few weeks, is out again.
Mr.. R. f. Marshall, of Burke, who
has been in Florida through the
winter, VIII return in the spring for
few months stay at his home near
here.
Mr.. F. F Basin has Just closed a
! deal with Mrs. Emerruse Redgrace,
OF Waren,on. which provides for
the exchange Of his home at Balls,
ton, for a 65 acre farm few miles
from this place
The Pigley Wigley store mere is
doing a good business. This IS the
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

tokens through which they hope to
perpetuate the ideals of Mr.. Wilson.
1T is much more fitting" said
MI Roosevelt, chat this Foundation
should represent the approval of the
many for Mr.. Wilson than that it
should be the private contribution OF
a Few men Of large means. Small
suns have some by the thousands
every day since the campaign opened
from those who wish TO acclaim the
idealism of the former President
Mr.. Roosevelt stressed the fact
that less than a score Of gifts Of
81 900 or over has been received.
The largest gift recorded, he an.
nounced. is one of $4,000 made by
henry Ford, and the next largest
are one of $500 from r A. Long, Of
Kansas City, and an anonymous cor
tribution for the same amount which
came from Washington. SO far as
has been reported to national head
quarters in this city these are the
only three contributions over $1,000.
Those from whom gifts OF $1,000
have been reported are William o.
Allison, Mr.. and Mrs. Bernard N
Baruch, Helen O. Brice. Thomas L.
Chadbourne. Justice John H. Clarke,
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

NNE day Mary Jane was walking
9 where Gussie Guppy the cd
or ten of her youngest children the best
places 20 look for worms.
Gussie was very busy, but said Good
morning, Mary Jane. You ought to De
mighty glad you don't have big fam
lily like have, to provide for"
"OnIy yesterday little Launcelot was
Glazing frog, and he fell into ditch.
had the awfuIlest time getting him
out. And when did, he was mud up
to his ears. 1t took me ali Of half an
hour TO get him cleaned off again"
Mary Jane said she knew just how
g-gra-va- ting that must have been.
For her mama had the same sort o.
job with her brother Bobby. Bobby
was crossing the brock, and he slipped
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
LESS THAN 20 GIFTS OF
81 900 TO WILSON FUND

New York, April 3.-The wide
spread popularity Of the plan to
honor former President Wilson
through public service awards to be
made by the Woodrow Wilson Foun-
dalton is proven by the 10000 con-
tributors who have given an average
of five dollars each, according to
Franklin ID. Roosevelt, national
chairman. Mr.. Roosey cit said today
that the purposes of the originators
of the tribute to Mr.. Wilson are
being realized in that the endowment
Of the awards when it is completed
will represent the pilgrimages of
over 100000 persons in person or by
letter TO the various state and loca
offices OF the Foundation with their
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

off the stepping stones and fell in the
mud. They had to turn the hose on
HIM, before they could find the buttons
to unbutton his clothes.
And then Mary Jane told Gussie
Cuppy they had party up at her
houselast night, with the most wonder
full Mary Jane Fudge you ever tasted
made with Mary Jane Syrup.
"Lt's the easiest thing you ever saw
to make the most delicious fudge out
of MARY Jane Syrup" said Mary Jane,
"Pll teach you how to do it sometime,
and well give a party for Launcelot
and the children" And Gussie said
don't forget" And then she went
home and put her children to bed.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
QUIT TOBACCO
So Easy to Drop Cigarette, Cigar, or
Chewing Habit

No-To-Bac has helpel e'"nsands to
break the costly, nerve-shatterlng to-
bacco habit. Whenever yOu have a
longing for smoke or chew, just
place a harmless No-To-Bac tablet Il
your mouth instead. All desire stops.
Shortly the habit is completely broken
and you are better off mentally. ply
sically, financially. It's so easy so
simple. Get q box of No-To-Bac and
if doesn't release you from all crav-
ing for tobacco in any form, your
druggist will refund your money with
out question.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
FEEL TEN YEARS YOUNGER
THAN | DID A MONTH AGO
Says f. f. Thompson, of I'LL First Street n. w,
Washington, d. G.

sure do feel elegant Tona feel than
a back
bed without suffering untold
with Had ambition at ALL
physical wreck When went into
told would sell treatment
relief would be refunded to me-
hadb a medicine the
and want tell you bought quite lot OF d
kinds good results from
feel like different Just return the empty bottles
be thought that and
of the empty
getting refunded Iona Ion proved to be
jus
! Above testmo given March g, 1922
Toa sold at Edgar Drug Store Corner King and
tstrcats Va
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

ELECTROMAGNETIC: an el'ctf0- ~ '.Irol an cleo
neg Srcnt II consists principally Of coil of wire through whc M %
nc t r and is usually provided with soft IRON core H0 IRON
bs onetisn rapidly quickly when the man neg @
oS ] c MAGNETIC force pole pole through SOFT IRON
@ y than through and by varying the amount Oh i
hof electromagnetic be increased OF
b 81 eives This type decided advantage over the
important factor IN Ihe EeHcI''
thar o magnetic fields IN generators AKA oo
~ will follow explaining important features OF magnet
i,r, ave- nil j. wireless communication
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

Miss Emma Weller, with four men
is held by New York authorities for
alleged completely in the theft Of
$250,000 worth of platinum from a
plant in Jackson, Tenn Miss Weller is
the widow of Johnny Spanish, former
New York gangster She faces a Fed
eral Indictment and is held i'm $4,000
bond, p-ndirg Grand Jury action.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

of the United States Supreme Court;
Mr.. and Mrs Harry Hardness Flag
Ter, Mr.. and Mrs. Henry Morgenthau,
Adolph 5. Ochs. Ralph Pulitzer,
Railway Employees Division of the
American Federation of Labor, Rob-
ert J. + Schwarzenbach, and Mrs.
Willard ID. Straight.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

The Chinese language is mGues
tionablv the most ancient spoken
and. with the exception Of the He
brew. is the most ancient written
language. II is also one o. the most
difficult to learn.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

smallest town that such store has
ever been started and il is great
success.
Arbor Day, April 6, the children OF
Cherrydale School will plart tree
in honor of those from that nIacG,
who lost their lives in the World
War. r. Walton Moore will de-
liver an address.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

Tbcsa fIings viii aign themseIVeS NO4Is
tbr paths Of the lines Of force,
If two bar magnets are allowed TO
swing freely in the air and place., IN Close
proximity, it will be found that Ihe l,orth
i poiio ~ fine other. The south pole Of one
p" g'et however, will attract the north
poe Of the other, From these facts is de-
y Veto TIE fundamental law that like :;
magnetic MAGNET poles rcpel and unlike magnetic
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

EDEE The complete of IL NEW Mary Jane FAIRY sie beau
Mary Jane label taken
Frodes Refining Company Dept Arso ~
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

LOOK FOR the NEXT Mary Jane Story about
"FiouO Hungry Henry Stole May Jane & Lunch -
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
How Many Pounds
"Gains 10 Pounds"

"Ihaye taken Onlyl}2packages
OF IRONIZED YEAST, yet have
gained 10 pounds IN Is days.
REV. l.. W. V.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
Gains 6 Pounds"

The improvement in me since
taking IRONlLED YEAST is Just
wonderful. Now ! eat heartily,
neyerhave that tired-Out feeling,
and / have gained six pounds:
Mr.. Z. B. c.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
(a) Permanent Magnets.
(bD electromagnetic.

PERMANENT MAGNETS If bar of steel is placed magnetic hed
hne roaonezed this magnetism permanently ana IT dpl
% steel filings and retain considerable number 9l M
the the These edS nave 'He
r oas magnetism known the poles of the magnet
# is we'll known that the earth possesses north and SCUM
such compass
freedom OF movement end Will point 10 lne
magnetic pole This end is termed the north pole OIL inc imagine" anu ~
eudth south pole
Tho magnetic permanent magnet contains lines OF o
the south pole through the an ana from
TO- the noh through the bar thus forming magnetic cir
~ shown i'm the accompanying diagram Figure l.
Ti NAV be shown the simple experiment of holding above l
te Of paper has prnkd iron or steel hhsS'
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

The trails of early Christianity in
Palestine are no longer inaccessible
10 the autoist. Motor vehicles travel
between Jerusalem and Damascus IS
Lecoming common.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
"Gains S Pounds"

After orc box of IRONlZED
YEAST / have gained : pounds.
my skin is clear. | now sleep
suundly every night. II Is the
greatest tonic | ever heard OF;
MIR. A. G.. B.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
Fifteen Minutes of Radio Each Day
By EDWARD y. DAVIS
Formerly Technical Electrical Expert for T. s Government
Lesson No. :
MAGNETISM
By EDWARD \. DAVIS

Whenever flows in conductor II estaDn
knowledge magnetism IS
essential
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

Hang Chow. "The City OF Heaven,
Marco Polo declared coo years ago
TO be the grandcst city Of Inc world
I'm his day Great street, now scant
6 or s feet in width, was vide enough
for nine carts to travel abreast and
as level rs ball room floor. Now
thousands of mudwallcd huts crowd
upon narrow streets and polluted ca
mails.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04
Gains 10 Pounds"

II think IRONIZED YEAST Is
wonderful flesh builder and
fine Tor the complexion. | hays
gained 10 pounds after ~ pacE-
axes. Mrs. J. X. 3.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1922-04-04

Rev. J. c. Thurcber has been re
appoint,l here for Southern Metho-
dist Church by Conference OF the
NJ +. Church South.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1922-08-22
BONUS PASSAGE
SEEMS ASSURED
Predicts Success Middle
! Next Week

WASHINGTON. Aug. as.--ras'
rage OF ,he bonus bin In tho senate
by the middle Of NEXT week. with sp-
proximately 30 votes against II.
seemed assured today.
This was evidenced In announce.
ment OF several separate polls OF the
senate. Chairman Mecumber. ooau.
thor Of the bill. predicted substan.
tiai majority over two.thirds viii ad.
vance the measure TO the president
for signature.
Opponents were lining up for bat.
tia on tho grounds the nation cannot
stand any additional financial bur
den. which tho bonus. u IN estt.
mated. will impose 10 the extent Of
about $4,000. ooo.ooo
Mccumbcr and other ssaunch sup
porters were ready 90 contend that
the bonus In In reality a government
ohlIgation--iong overduo--to war vet.
Grams.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1922-08-22
CITY PLANS TO
PUT UP GARAGE

Plans for the establishment OF q
central garage and repair station for
rnunicspai.own.d automobiles are
now receiving the earnest connidera-
sion Of city officials.
Mayor Brown IL working on n
schemo BY which tho Charles ~.
stables may be converted into q gar.
ago. ana the board OF public works
VIII make q trip Of inspection Wed
nesday 81 various ciiy.owned proper.
ties available for storage purposes.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1922-08-22
Cynthia Grey j:
Did You Kno,c Clarubclle, That Short Skirts Spell
Spinsterhoodg That's Why We're Wearing EN-
Long Noau.
BY CYNTHIA GREY

Does Me short skirt MiCdrt mdfrmonvY Andre Tffdon.
famous French psychologist 10 does. when girls by
repednent TO be mysterious longer wdnt
10 marry them Women found they matmoniov an
desirable and that there things that attract far more
than semnudty The dpper therefore 10 escape spnstcr
hood is returning to the good old age Of feminine mystey
IN the future something ~H be left to the Inauguration Thus
Mr. Tdoa analysed the drastic change in mlads apparel
At last girls there light hare psychological
for getting back into long skrsthe 'front.' marry
GOSH
Despite Mr. Tidons psvcho-anavicai explanation Of the
return Of the long skirt IL is rather interesting TO
the fact that the rich young and not infrequeny his
footloose dad hare spirited uodv scdntlcad Foes
beauty after another to the good ship Matrmonp Seldom
does stage beauty reach age bordering
spinsterhood, aud she usually marries good cdtch In
rep of this peiknown truth, IL seN be rather difficult
doubt for number Of so-caed fappers TO scaow this
est psychological pin.
And girls hare vou noticed the clerk IN the marriage IL
bureau complaining about the scee young things boy
cotting his trader No, ace haven't, either