The New York herald., 1922-11-29
CLEMENCEAU LISTS
CERMANY'S HIDDEN
MATERIAL FOR WAR
Issues Official Report OF
Finding of Munitions
in 45 Instances.
HUGE CACHE AT KEEL
Tells Chicago That Berlin
Plans Coup With Turks
and Russians.
APPEALS FOR CANDOR
let Us Curse Each Other, if
Necessary He Urges, ito
Get Truth
APPEALS FOR cANDoR

CHICAGO, Nov. 2S.-Ihe text ior
Clemenceau's Chicago speech this af-
ternoon was the inscription he saw
on Grants Tomb in New York last
Sunday: LET us have peace" but he
used in support of his plea that in
the absence of guaranty from the
United States France must be allowed
to preserve her peace against German
threat by an adequate army.
And to upset his critics. who he
said had accused him of lying. he Of
fered what he deemed to be proof that
Germany. still bent on the destruction
of France, is concealing on her person
in violation Of her agreement war
materials of every description.
He gave to the press tonight what
he described as "a certified official
list of hidden war material concealed
in Germany and discovered since July
Is, 1921, by the Interallied Commis-
sion of military control provided for
by the Treaty of Versailles for the
] purpose of carrying out the disarma-
ment provisions of that document"
Torty-five Instances Listed.
This list has forty-five instances OF
such discoveries. The most recent was
at Kiel. in September, 1922 1t COM
prises, Clemenceau said In his address
at the Auditorium, enough munitions to
equip two army corps The material
includes cannon, machine guns. rifles
pistols. bomb throwers. mortar guns
gas masks, field telephones cartridges
and alrplane material. 1t was found in
such places as farms. barracks. a school.
railroad cars, a restaurant, factories,
armories and an officers home.
'They are to be used. how?" said
Clemenceau. why. against us. There
cannot be anybody else. We are, there
fore. justified In keeping our army In
good condition. How can anything sin
lister on our part suggest Itself to any
body's mind? The Germans have been
getting this large amount.of armament
for the purpose of destroying us. 1t
certainly is not for any peaceful opera
ton. They have been suffering and
their finances have been depleted for
the purpose of destroying uJ."
Clemcnceau hastened to say he did
not predict immediate war. In fact, he
did not like the word war at all. Evil
IDENTIFY he had some of his cautious ad-
visers In mind when, after insisting that
the Russians and the Turks are In
league with militaristic Germans. he
said, with a smile and a shrug:
"They are preparing for-let us not
call it war-if you do not want to, but
let us call it interference in middle
Europe"
Blunt Question for America.
This plain spoken Frenchman had a
blunt question for the United States.
The certain kind of peace we had gone
to war to obtain was obtained, but not
put into execution.
"You had your soldiers killed." he
said. You spent your money lavishly.
You did that to get something. Now. IL
you have not got 1t. may L ask You
what you did 1t for? I do not want to
make the situation worse than 1t is. |
simply want TO show you 1t is as bad
as IL is"
At another stage he said:
Il do not think you understand the
Rhine. Suppose you had been invaded
by Mexico every fifty years. Would not
you want some guard along the Rio
Grsnde? That is our case. That is
what France wished TO do and she
wished to do II herself. We were offered
the guarantees of England and Presi-
Congress refused"
Clemenceau talked to 1000 persons.
The meeting was arranged by the Chi
cago Council OF Foreign Relations. The
street as we'll as the theater was filed.
No Cheering of speech.
The scenes of the New York and
Boston meeting were repeated. except
that the audience, which was a Chicago
Who's Who. was not nearly as demon
strative as the one i'm Boston. 1t re-
ceived the Tiger cordially. but in the
course of the speech there was no cheer
ing and almost no applause. This was
partly due to his trouble with the trans
mitter of the loud speaking apparatus
which was to have carried his words to
the outside crowd and to a multitude
Of others by radio.
The transmitter twin disks) was on a
little table In front of him. Clemenceau
does not like barriers between him and
the persons in the front row. This Tiger
cannot be Gagged. He kept roaming
away from the table, and only when Gen.
Charles @. Dawes. chairman of the
meeting. shot up from his platform seat
TO plead with him would he return to 1t
The result was that his voice carried
only internationally to the majority OF
the audience. and IL Is doubtful II q
great many got coherent notion Of
what he was saying.
When the figure fiow familiar to all
America appeared on the stage an or
chestra played "Over There" for a
change but switched to "The Marseil-
laise" when the audience, standing up.
finished their hand clappng.
Jacob Dickinson, former Secretary OF
War and temporary chairman OF the
meeting. raised litter by remarking:
up to this time no restraint has ever
been imposed on our speakers. We are
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