The New York herald., 1922-09-16
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would be illegal for any citizen or city
official to propose subway plan.
Absolutely not. SIR was the reply.
But l want to say this: So far as
concerns what it is doing here this
afternoon and intends continuing during
the months OF September and October.
this body Is just as effective as would
be any body of citizens in any clubhouse
c. community council. 1t has just the
same effect and nothing more
Mr.. Hubert asked: did you feel
that when the Washington Heights
Chamber OF Commerce and the Harlem
Board of Commerce and the Harlem
Board of Trade and many other or
ganiza .ions made their suggestions with
respect to this plan they were doing
so as a matter of politics?"
mo. sir; they are being fooled!' came
the retort, "and i will tell you why"
You are the counsel to the Harlem
Board?p interrupted Mr. Hubert.
II am the one who took your place
yes"
"And you think these gentlemen ap
peared here without authority of th'
Board, and that they are being fooled?'
"They have appeared as representa-
tives of the transit committee of thu
Harlem Board of Commerce, and know
that body is opposed and has expressed
itself as opposed to municipality operated
railroads"
The Mayor Takes a Hand.
Mayor Hylans face was now rudd,
with Indignation. He leaned forward
over his desk and. shaking his gavel
exclaimed: This fellow is insulting the
intelligence OF the honest thinking Re
publicans Of the city,"
II will leave that to the New York
Republicans" replied the lawyer. "Bu'
I wish to say to you that / am not
fellow. / am a gentleman. ] expected
to be insulted when l came here. Tha'
Is why you do not have more people
coming here telling you the truth, be
cause you are afraid to listen to criti'
cism."
II can see now that you did not come
here in good faith" said the Mayor
while Mr. Riegelmann added: /: All YOU
want is to harangue the public, TO pu'
across your Republican Club propaganaa
and. II you don't get 1t over. you are
going to try to yell so loud as to out
talk everybody else"
Read our resolutions to the Board.
demanded Mr.. Kurtz. Read them aloud
We want subways. and / agree with
everything the Washington Heights
gentlemen have said. but you cannot
get subways with injunctions and you
cannot get them by holding political
mass meetings. Comply with the law
and you will get subways."
You do not represent honestly all
the Republican clubs. persisted the
Mayor. "You represent the traction
crowd
THAT is not true" came the hot re-
fort. II don't own a dollars worth OF
traction stock and 1 ride in the subways
the same as you used to do before you
were Mayor. / represent nobody but
the citizens of my community and you
invited us TO come here
This man represents the traction
gang" persisted the Mayor.
Men and women were standing up
now in all parts of the thronged cham
ber. From the Mayors admirers came
shouts, His time Is up" Put him
out !" give him the air =
mo, don't hound him." pleaded the
Mayor. Then his Honor turned to Mr.
Kurtz and repeated. You are here tc
make trouble
mo. sir; ! am not here to make
trouble say to you. get together with
the Transit Commission. stop talking
and give us subways."
President Riegelmann said the speaker
had not presented a single constructive
suggestion. but had come there solely
for the purpose of making Republican
speech.
THAT is not true, sir" shot back Mr..
Kurtz. II came here as citizen want
ing transportation. / came here to say