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SAN FRANCISCO CATTLE

Steers, No. l, 7M@S; second quality,
7@7a; COWS and heifers, No. l, 5M@
6; calves, light weight, SA @9H; heavy
5%G6h
Imperial Valley press., 1922-09-12
SAN FRANCISCO HOGS

Hard fat, grain fed, weighing 125
to 200 lbs, 11&@12H; hard, fat, grain
fed, weighing 250 to 800 lbs, 10.
Imperial Valley press., 1922-09-12
SAN FRANCISCO GRAIN

Barley, spot feed, 1.17R@1.20, ship
ping l.25dl.35; wheat 1.75@ 1.80; whit
Egyptian corn 2.00W21o; oats 1000
| n
Imperial Valley press., 1922-09-12

Happiness is state of mind your
own business.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
FRANCE NOW READY
TO TAKE Up DEBT
OWED TO AMERICA
Special Commission to Come
Here to Arrange Payment,
Paris Announces.

PARIS, May II (Associated Press).
The French Government has In
formed the American War Debt Fund
ing ComEhission that II Is ready to
send . special mission to America to
confer recording the payment OF the
french dept to the United States.
Finance Minister de Lasteyrie rec
commended to the Cabinet to-day that
a special mission, headed by Jean
Parmentier. Administrator OF the
Ministry OF Finance. be sent to the
United States to confer with the Debt
Funding Commission over the pay
ment of the principal and interest OF
the American war advances to France.
Premier Poincare accordingly handed
a note to Ambassador Herrick to this
effect.
NJ. Parmentier is considered the
best equipped man in the Ministry
for such negotiations, he having had
similar experience during and since
the war. He will, It is stated, make
a full and frank statement of the
situation OF Frances finances and
then ask the Debt Funding Commits
1t expects from France.
The French budget for 1928 makes
no provision for the payment OF
either interest or capital on the
French debt to the United States.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17

CLOSED, GOES TO
REFEREETOMORROW
"Baby" Guys Counsel and
Wife's Lawyers Confident
of Outcome.

At a conference between Mrs. Anne
U. Potter stillnan. John r. Brennan.
Of her counsel. and Judge John e.
Mack, counsel for the infant. Guy
stillman. whose parentage has been
dlsowned by James A. Stillman. Il
was decided to-day to submit the
case Of Mrs. Stillman TO the referee
to- morrow. The conference was at
the home of Mr.. Brennan and was
marked by the confidence of all pres
ent in a favorable outcome of the case
for Mrs. stillman.
Mr.. Brennan said he did not feel
that his clients interests had been
hurt by the introduction OF the letters
said to have been bought from Fred
Beauvais, the half-breed co-respon-
dent. Mrs, Stillman said on the wit
ness stand the handwriting looked
like hers, but asserted she had writ
ten none Of the letters.
Mr.. Brennan said he would ask the
referee for ten days in which to sub
NIT a brief. Attorneys for Mr.. STILL
man will then have hvo' days for an
answering brief, and Mr.. Brennan
will have three days in which to COM
ment on the answer.
There will be no limit on the time
which the referee can take to reach
a decision. which must go to Justice
Morschauser for final action at his
convenience. Whatever the result.
there is almost certain TO be an appeal
to the Appellate Division in Brooklyn
and the Court of Appeals, IT was said
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
PRESIDENT INVITES
LEAD|NGSTEELMEN
TO Dine WITH HIM.
Farrell, Schwab, Grace, Corey
and Topping Among Those
Who Are Expected.

1t was learned to-day in Wall Street
that President Harding has invited
from thirty TO forty of the leading
steel men OF the country 20 dine with
him at the White House tomorrow
night.
Among those invited are ". II.
Gary. Chairman OF the Board OF the
u. S. steel Corporation; James A.
Farrell. President OF the steel Corr
poration: Charles NJ. Schwab and
Eugene G.. Grace, respectively Chair
man OF the Board and President OF
the Bethlehem Steel Corporation;
William Il. Corey, head of the Mid
vale Steel Company; John A. Top
ping. President of the Republic Iron
and Steel Company; J. Leonard
Replogle. head OF the Replogie Steel
Company. and L. f. Block.
The purpose Of the meeting was
not disclosed In the invitation sent
out. and the object OF the conference
has created profound interest In the
financial district.
Very recently the President sent
out invitations to the leading railroad
executives OF the country TO have din
ner with him at the White House next
Saturday night. II has been under
stood that the latter dinner Is for the
purpose of acquainting the rail mer
with the decision of the Interstate
Commerce Commission in the matter
OF freight rate reductions.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
COUPLE HELD UP
|NAUTOlN Jersey,
ROBBED OF 5000
Armed Pair Halt Silk Manu-
facturer's Car, Get Jewels
and Cash.

Nathan Drachman, a silk manufac-
turer of No. sos Fairmont Place. the
Bronx, was returning early to-day
with Mrs. Drachman from the we'd
ding Of his brother-ln-law Joseph
Goldberg, at Paterson. Mr.. Drach-
man was driving his automobile. Near
Rochelle Park on the Paterson Hack
ensack Road a big machine drew
alongside. grazing his mud guards.
''Stop!" a man at the wheel COM
manded.
Mr.. Drachman was preparing 70
step on his acceleratcr when the
other driver turned out his front
wheels and forced Mr.. Drachman to
the side Of the road. A tall man
wearing a mask and holding a pistol
jumped to the road.
do as you're told and STOP" ht
said. holding the revolver menacingly
The driver of the car Joined him and
took the pistol. They apparently
knew the Drachmans wore jewelry
for they asked for certain pieces Mrs
Drachman wore.
Now give US your valuables." or
dered the masked man.
They took from the couple two dia.
mond rings valued at $500. a brooch
worth $500. a $500 pearl necklace. q
$500 watch and a wallet containing
$s0--altogether $6.0s0.
Nov keep going" they commanded
as they stepped into their own car
''and don't tell the police"
But Mr.. Drachman reported th'
robbery at Hackensack. The New
Jersey police Fastening out on motor
cycles could find no trace OF the rob-
bers.
Mr.. Drachman had only ~ cent?
when he reached the ferry and had u
borrow a quarter to get his carry
across to New York.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
Americas Only Stipulation Is
That Politics Be Dropped
From Conference.
RUSSIA TO AT TIE IND.
Soviet Delegates Announce
They viii Take Part in
Meeting on June 26.
By David Lawrence.
Especial Correspondent Of The Eve
ming WORLDLY

WASHINGTON, May II Copy
right Although on the surface 1t
may seem as II the United States
again has refused to cooperate with
European powers, the truth is the
Government here is not only ready
but anxious to rattirl.iate In con-
terence on Russh.. affairs.
From the White House itself comes
the Information that the American
Government stands ready to-day to
send a representative TO The Hague
or anywhere else 10 discuss the Rus
sian question and that II the powers
viii modify their proposal so as tc
remove features Objectionable to this
country, American cooperation can
be assured.
President Harding feels that the
door Is open for American help and
wants II clearly understood. The De-
partment of State significantly enough
went into details to-day in explain
ing what appeared to be discrepancy
between the informal statements oi
action of the American Government
In declining the invitation to The
Hague conference.
Cabiegrams have reported the Brit
ish public as amazed at the American
refusal because Ambassador Child was
reported as having promised Ameri.
can cooperation. The truth OF tho
case is that when the powers ap-
preached Ambassador Child they told
him the plan was to form a committee
10 study the Russian question. Mr.
Child asked the Department Of State
what would be it's attitude and re
ceived a reply telling him the Govern
ment here was sympathetic with the
proposal and TO send more informa-
ton.
Before he could do so the invitation
Of the powers with the specific pro-
posals concerning The Hague Confer.
ence were cabled. This, of course
looked merely like a shifting of the
Genoa Conference itself to The Hague
and again the American Government
felt that II would be involving itself ir
political controversies.
But both President Harding and
Secretary Hughes believe much car
be accomplished II the Russian ques-
tion is treated as an economic matter
ana II the Russians will respect prt-
vats rights and property and thus af
ford a basis for economic dealings
with other nations. The American
reply 10 intended as a piece OF mora
suasion. It being hoped that tho pow
sry will be able to persuade tho Rus.
staus that the giving OF American
help will be seriously considered IN
Washington Just as soon as an eco
nonic basis can be achieved which
CONTINUED on Fifth Pase.)
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
BOY SEEING FRIENDS OFF
NOW ON WAY TO EUROPE
Brooklyn Lad stays too Long on
Rotterdam.

Rotterdam.
Hyman Seidenbornd, sixteen. OF No.
1888 Wilson Street. Brooklyn. went TO
Hoboken Monday to bid goodby to two
friends sailing for Holland on the Rot
teriam.
Miss Isabelle Seidenbornd. his sister.
reported him missing to-day. and De-
tective George OsConnor OF the Missing
Persons Bureau was assigned to the
case. O'Connor went TO Hoboken and
then he sent a wireless. From the Rot
terdam came the reply:
"Hyman safe. Stayed too long aboard
al pier" He'll return when the vessel
does.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
MAN, 1000 CHICKS
KILLED IN WRECK
New York Central Tied Up
Two Hours at
Peekskill.

PEEKSKLL, May 17.-One man
was killed. about 1000 chickens also
were probably killed and all through
trsftic on the New York Central Rail
road was tied up for about two hours
and a half to-day when a freight
train crashed into another freight
train on the curve Just north of the
station in the heart OF Peekskill.
The caboose OF the chicken train
was lifted up onto the top Of the en-
gine that hit It.
About 1000 of the chickens escaped
and many were being caught by the
poor rssidenta.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
FLIES FROM JERSEY
WITH VEGETABLES
TO SELL IN BOSTON
Trip to Demonstrate Prod
nee Can Be Delivered
Same Day.

ASs 49, NLey So
A Fokker monoplane carrying
1000 pounds of asparagus arrived
here at noon to day from Mullica
Hill, Gloucester County. N. j.,
took on gasoline and started half
an hour later for Framingham
Field, in the outskirts OF Boston.
william N. De wald was pilot.
He started his flight at 1906 this
morning.
The asparagus Is an eUper-
mental shipment to demonstrate
that produce from New Jersey
can be cut and delivered to dis
tsnt markets the same day,
The monoplane was engaged by
the Gloucester County Board OF
Agriculture, Packages Of As
paragus we're sent to Gov. Cox Of
Massachusetts and Mayor Curley
~ Boston. The plane will return
morrow with a shipment OF
candy from a Boston factory 10
its New York stores.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
TO CHEAPEN PRICE
OF GASOLINE DON'T
USE 1T; LET CAR REST
If Million Pleasure Auto
Owners Do This Cost of
Gas VIII Take a Drop.
Especial From a Staff Correspondent
Of Tho Evening WorId.)

Especial From a Staff Correspondent
Of Tho Evening WorId.)
DANIELSON. Conn. May H.
John B. Bessetts Of this city has
an idea that will appeal to thou
sands Of automobilists, whether
they have the courage to adopt
1t or not. The idea Is a State
wide. Nationwide If possible.
strike of motorists against the
steadily advancing retail price of
gasoline.
1t Is all very simple. Put your
car in the garage and leave II
there for a month. II that does
not bring results. leave 1t there
for another month. II the up
ward of 1900, 900 pleasure car
owners in the United States
would do this for thirty to ninety
days. Mr.. Bessette believes that
a real dent would be made in the
present retail price of gasoline,
of which there is a record amount
In reserve-upward of s54. 900, 600
gallons.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
RUBBER TONGUE
ENABLES HIM TO
TALK AND SING
Wounded French Veteran
Regains Speech Through
Hospital Surgery.
PARIS. May II.

Serst. Vialla. Verdun wounded
war veteran. in the Vel de Grace
Hospital. lost his lower Jaw in
the war and II was reconstr ucted
with a complete set Of teeth.
When the surgeons had finished
this Job there was ouly the base
OF the tongue left. and DR.. Eugene
ouenolle set to work TO fix up a
rubber tongue and palate.
Vialla was soon able to eat with
this mechanism instead OF having
to use a tube. Later he trained
himself TO maze sounds. and now
he is able TO talk and even sing.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17

The WORLD IRAyEL BUhEAU.
Park Row. " City Telephone Beekman
1000 Check room for baggage and parcel.
travsners' checks Tor Bals.-Advt.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
TALMADCE DIVORCE SUIT
NOT TO BE CONTESTED
PiaIogIou 40 File Merely Denial NJ
Constance's Charges.

LOS ANGELES. May 17.-John j.
Pialosiou. Greek tobacco importer and
cigarette manufacture of New York.
will not contest the divorce action fled
against him here. May 0. by Constance
Talmadge. motion picture actress. his
counsel announced yesterday.
I'VE shall not contest the action in
any manner" said George c. Hupp.
I'VE do not intend 70 fle an answer
nor q cross complaint. II anything at
all IL filed, II will be merely a general
denial OF Mrs. PialoElou's charges"
Hupp said . property settlement had
been made out OF court. but that he
was not at liberty to discuss Its pro-
visions. Miss TalmAdge charged Pia-
loElou with cruel and inhuman treat
ment.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17
FRANCE AND u. S.
NEAR AGREEMENT
ON SYRIA MANDATE
American Conditions viii
Be Met, League Dele
gates Learn.

GENEVA, May II (By the As
ISOLATED Press). - The United
States and France are about to
reach an agreement on the French
Mandate for Syria. according to
information reaching the Secre-
tariat OF the League Of Nations.
II 10 understood the American
Governments approval Is subject
70 certain conditions, which ap-
paseatl7 Will be mat.
The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1922-05-17

Continued on Fourth Page)
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
Facts demonstrated

The FACTS DEMONSTRATED, no longer
seriously disputed by anybody, are these
That the Bill was given False Title to mis-
lead the public and deceive the voters.
That it in no respect pretends to improve the
existing law as to the Public Schools, but simply
destroys the Private Schools.
That not one cent Of public money goes to the
support of any private or parochial school III ,lis
State, or ever has, ever can, under the PLAIN
prohibition of the Constitution and laws
That it will increase taxation at least 81 ,O0O00o
each wear and require from So, 100000 to $4,0OO,-
900 investment in new public school buildings
That it vests in the County Superintendent ar
bitrary and unappealable power to grant speclal
privileges to the wealthy and influential by
which they will be exempt from the law
That it will prevent parents from educating
their children in private schools both inside and
outside of the State, they cannot even send
their children elsewhere to be educated.
That so far from being united in support OF the
Bill, the Masonic Fraternity in the State is di-
vded, many of the leading Masons are openly
opposed to it. and the Grand Master of the State
Grand Lodge has publicly denied that the Grand
Lodge indorsed it.
That the best elements in the social, religious,
educational and political life of the State are op-
posed to the measure.
That the educational leaders, inside and outside
of the State, are opposed to the Bill DR. Nicholas
should be called Bill to render the American
system of education impossible in Oregon" The
Presidents of Yale, Princeton, Chicago, Leland
Stanford and other great Universities have en-
phaticaly condemned it.
That the private schools, under the existing
law, are required to conform their course of stud
les to the public schools standards, the English
language is made compulsory, and they are sub-
iect to the inspection and supervision of the State
authorities.
That the proposed law will close up every
orphan asylum, home for defective and dependent
children, and other private charities, where any
elementary instruction of the inmates is at
tempted
That it destroys the rights of minoritieS the most
vital and valuable principle of Americansm and the
one that has preserved this country from the tyranny
of Old World Governments
THE ARGUMENTS UNANSWERED against
the bill are contained in the "Voters Pamphlet"
issued by the State The chief points of the same
are as follows;
Upon the foregoing stateme
gent judgment of the voters of
for the inherited and fundamen
prevail in this state.
CATHOLIC CIVIC RIGF
316 Morgan Building, Portland,
Vote 315 Y
School vi,
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
HAS NEVER FELT
BETTER IN ALL
HIS LIFE

Thousands of frail, nervous peo-
ple and convalescents everywhere
have testified to the remarkable
power OF Tanlac In bringing back
their health, strength, and work
ing efficiency. 1t seems to quickly
inyigorate the constitution and Is
a powerful foe Of weakness. MI
A. Briggs, OF 2605 u East Lake,
Seattle, Wash, says.
II was in general run down
condition from loss Of appetite
and indigestion, felt worn out all
the time and was growing weaker
every day. Tanlac rid me of the
indigestion, put keen edge on
my appetite, built me up several
pounds and now I'm simply brim-
full OF life and energy"
There is not a single portion OF
the body that is not benefited by
the helpful action OF Tanlac. 1t
enables the stomach to turn the
food into healthy blood, bone and
muscle, purifies the system anC
builds you back to norma
weight, Get bottle today at any
good druggist, (advl
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30

,ila in our public

one hundred pupils in our pupiie
school. saw
Mr.. LaBourne is absent from
his home on business at Monroe,
The little infant child OF q. :,
I.aa that was confined to q local
hospital in Salem, died last satur-
day. The funeral was held the
first Of the week.
Rev. Ford and wife OF Lebanon
were recent guests with MrS'
Hike. L.
Mr.. Stewart has harvested ms
notato crop and had some potatoes
that weighed over two pounds.
Charles Relpath of Buhl, ldano'
visited his old time acquaintance
Harry Lee, Tuesday.
Those who have been on tne
sick list in our midst are; Mrs.
Fred pierce, Mrs. s. A. Leach ana
Doris Thurman and Mrs u. u
GrittOn.
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30

gave very enjoyable Hailo"e on
narty in the town hall on frioaS
afternoon. The hall was season
ablv ornamented with autumn
leaves M and orange and black crepe
paper, drapings with punphin
faces bewitching the WINDOWS
The entertainment of the after, !,
noon consisted Of music anu a,s
sneeches by the pupils OF the uil
ferent grades after when tnes
we're treated to a lunch OF CAKE
sandwiches and punch.
Mr.. and Mrs. Charles Moore ol
Fairfield were Sunday guests ..
the F. L. Moore residence on Front
street. caov
Latonta Leach spent SUNDAY
evening with her friend, Lillian
Boatright Of South Salem.
The fourth room of the puDilt
school has new furniture and seats
Installed in it. There are over
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
Polk County Court

Dallas, Or, Oct. O.--Martha T.
Evans appointed executrix OF es-
tate OF Evan Evans, deceased -.
j. Fenton, II. G.. Campbell ana
Eugene Hayter appointed as APP
pralsers. II
Friday, November II. at ~
o'clock at the county court room
in Dallas, set as time and place
20 hear final account IN estate u
Michael Kelley, deceased
Bond OF $4,000 Of r, osburn ap.
proved as guardian Of estate q
Orange Osborn, an insane persons.
Monday, November 2o' az ~
o'clock at county court room ~
Dallas set as time and place iol
hearing final account Of estate O
d. II. Wheeler, deceased.
Myrtle Wood appointed execu'
trix Of estate Of John A, WOOD
John ]. Underwood, Ed Foster an'
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
.oaapn Rogers appointed appraIs-

Joseph Rogers appointed apprais-
ers.
Eugene Hayter, August p.
itisser and Walter Williams ap-
pointed appraisers Of estate OF
John S. Ashbaugh, deceased.
u. S. Loughary appointed exc
utor OF estate OF Eliza Loughary,
deceased. Bond set at $4,000.
f. o. Byerley, F. W. Flannery
and Jesse McKibben appointed 70
make supplementary appraise-
aent Of estate OF G. d. Nairns, de-
5eased. .
Allie Cole appointed executrix
II estate OF Frank w. Cole, de-
ceased. Lloyd Hunnicutt, John
Mode and w. v. Acock appointed
appraisers.
Leander N. Belieu appointed ex-
ecutor and Silas e. Rhodes admin
,stor OF estate of Sarah Rhodes
deceased.
Monday, November II, al ~
O'Clock at county court room al
Dallas set as time and place foi
hearing final account OF estate o.
Charles e. Herrin, deceased.
Saturday, November ~, a
county court house at Dallas, q
I10 o'clock set as time and plac'
for hearing final account OF estat'
of Charles Fl. Henke, deceased.
Wednesday, November 2s. at i
i o'clock at county court room Sc
as time and place for hearing flna
account Of estate Of Herman Mar
auardt, deceased.
Circuit Court.
George G. Ellison VS.. X. y. oai
son. Action for money.
Marriage License.
/, Otis w. Stephens, legal. wen
! oregon, to Sadie Singleton iega
Monmouth, oregon.
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30

they will make their new Home in
Salem.
Mrs. Charles Baker of near
Dallas, formerly Of West Salem
visited old acquaintances In town
last week.
Quite few folks from here at
tended the military funeral OF
Francis Banta at Salem, Monday,
Mrs. Sampson and little girl
spent Friday with the formers
parents, Mr.. and Mrs Frank
Smith.
Eva Arnold spent from Satur-
day to Sunday visiting with the
w. j. Marrow family at Halls Fer
| ry.
Mrs. Bruce Wallace (nee Will
lemima Cox) gave dinner party
at her new home on Tuesday In
honor of her grandfather's 18TH
mile stone. The house was very
beautifully decorated with roses
and nasturtiums, and those who
enjoyed the occasion left wishing
Mr.. Bales many more happy birth
days.
Mrs. Lou Lehman OF Salem was
a recent visitor with her mother
Mrs. Bell.
| The West Salem M. e. church
has begun the drive for funds TO-
ward the erecting Of new church
on the corner Of State and Third
They feel encouraged with the do
, nations already given and VII
press on until the whole territor,
is canvassed. Friends, we than
you for the start you have alread
) given us and we hope all the citi
zens will help us toward this grea
goal.
e Mr.. and Mrs. Pete Stevens Q
y Salem were dinner guests at tn
: Greasy home, Tuesday.
a At the coming election the foI
e lowing candidates will be on tn
: ballot: For mayor, Mr.. Dougla
e and Earl Patton; city marsha
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
THE CAPITAL JOURNAL, SALEM, OREGON

which office CARRIES water supel
lntendent and street eommisslon-
ar1 William Andrews; city treas
urer, Mr.. Means.
Mr. and Mrs. Gilbaugh ana lanl-
i,v were weekend visitors at tne
J. M. Rentfro ranch.
Mr.. Pierce and family motofeu
to Dallas the first of the week "
transact some business.
Mrs. Dunn of Portland, who mas
been seriously Ill, ds little bet
ter at this time. She is the moth-
er OF Mrs. Bell and Robert Dunn
of Kingwood. -,
Mrs. Mary Billings, who has has
been spending a fortnight VIII
friends at Portland, has returned
home. ~ =,
Mr.. and Mrs. w. B. Hunt OF
Zena made a flying visit at tht
Hunt dwelling Sunday.
The public school of West Salem
Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1919-1980, 1922-10-30
How Fat Actress
Was Made Slim

MANY stage people now depend
entirely upon Marmola Prescflp-
tion Tablets for reducing and con-
trolling fat. One clever actress
tells that she reduced steadily ana
easily by using this new form OF
INC FAMOUS Marmola Prescription
ma now, by taking Marmola Pre-
scrlption Tablets several times 2
YEAR, keeps her weight just right,
Al good druggists sell Marmola
prescription Tablets at one doll
lar FOR a case. or II you prefer you
can secure them direct from tae
Mnrmnla Co, 4612 Woodward Ave,
Detroit, Mich, IL you have not
tried them do SO, They are harm
,ass @ AN effective. (adyl