New-York tribune., 1922-10-21
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Sinnoft Testihes
Mr.. sinnott testified that since
August /, 1922, his firm had issued
forty-three policies, with totai Pts
,ss samusl u shotSin. former bus driver,
told of how ne mad coms to Mnnhat-
tar from Newark when the Mayor
started his bus linea. two years age,
and ran on various lines until March
iaat. when he was aknocked of. He
said Id was dropped because he had
nat voted last fall. He got back on the
Zine through the aid OF Senator bsr-
nard Downing and friendly alderman.
He said that while he had q smsll bus,
with acats for twelve he packed in
ifwenty-eight or thirty, and cleaned up
Sa,nausl Rothkerch, Hungarian,
with his hrst papers only--ar 'afien
enemy" he styled himself-in order to
go into business rs bus operator In
New York bought sixteen n-passenger
bus for $4,000 and tried. his fortunes
first at Staten Island, then Flatbush
and finally on the Eighth Street cross
"the orders from headquarters" were
that all who had not voted the previous
fall were to be fired.
The king Of the bus men apparently
was Hyman J. Hagler, who testified
that. he had been making money at
Bridgeport during tho flush times
there, and when Mayor Hylan started
his bas lines he was prevailed upon by
friends to try his luck here. He daz-
zled the other bus mon by driving to
the Delaney Street station with q
thirty-seat cross scatter, costing him
$4,000. He said TINT he made money
with it in Fourteenth Street, and then
he went to Eighty-sixth Street, where
the profits were still better. All went
we'll until one day his bus HIT trolley,
and then he was laid off pending an in
yestigation.
He had hard time to get q hearing
lat Commissioner Whalen's Office, and
worked through Benjamin Gottleib,
captain Of thu, 9Th Election District OF
the 4th Assembly District, in order to
Commissioner Whalen. He says he got
next to Eddie Ahearn, head Of the
Ahearn Club, Tammany, and aa there
were twenty votes in his immediate
family and connections he got back ON
the line, and incidentally voted for
Hylan last fall.
Abram Perln,utter was the next
witness, and good one. He
came from Bridgeport, and
brought along with him feet OF
fifteen buses, which he and his
brothers had bought at war prices
about $1,000 apiece. He took In $50
Then along came an order from Com
missioner Whalen that every one must
get bigger buses or get out Of the
business. Perlmutter rose to the oc
casion and bought an eighteen-passen-
ger bus.
But Whalen kept putting ON more
busses and business fell off, Perlmut-
ter said, so that he could not make his
pay. He tried Church Avenue in
Brooklyn for time, but it was a
frost" Then he said he heard that
he could get a good line by the pay
ment of from s100 to $500 to some one
higher up, but he did not do business.
"hfoney Like Boomerang"
"The money went around like a
boomerang-it never went direct" said
perlmutter, in answer to Mr.. Shearn' s
question as to who got it.
The witness told of petty graft
forced upon the bus men at the sta
tions, whereby they were compelled to
pay 81 a week for cleaning the buses,
which needed no cleaning, Perlmutter
said. He enlisted the aid of Alderman
Joseph Sullivan, he said, to get him
back on to the Ninety-sixth Street line,
and Sullivan failing him, he tried to
work through a Republican by the
John H. McCooey, the Brooklyn boss
about 1t. While he was Intellectually
trying to get somewhere where he
| gould make ends meet, another Joseph
Sullivan-nots an Alderman--appeared
and :he last Sullivan told him that by
payiag $1oO in, cash he could set him
| fixed.
When Mr.. Perlmutter said something
about the nayment Of money Judge
| Shearn became interested, and this
| followed:
Q.-You refer to your brother being
laid off the Eighty-sixth Street line;
he was laid off, was he? Axes, sir
| Q.-Did he try to get back on the
Eighty-sixth Street line? Avery
hard. &o
Q.-When you say "pay as the others
did" did your brother refuse to pay o,
was too much money asked, or what
was the reason? Ale didn't refuse
to pay. There was no fixed or Sci
| prices.
4 Q.-What was the prevailing price
Alt Went into hundreds.
4 Q.-How many hundreds7 A.-We ell
from one up to about three.
+ Q.-What was the club that you re
/ iferred to a moment ago7 A.--Som,
Dem mocratic club in Sixty-fourth Street
think. / don't remember the name
of the leader there.
Enployeesaof Club Members
Q.-The men that cleaned out tn,
busses at Eighty-sixth and Ninety
sixth Street lines, were these employ
ees of this man, the member Of thi
club7 A.--Yes.
4 In order to get going again Perlmut
!; ter said he gave, the second Josepl
Sullivan bill of sale for his bus an,
went to work for him as a chauffeur
|. paying Sullivan a salary meanwhile o
! $40 a week, with meals and smoke
Il deducted"
4 Q.-Do you know some men name,
\ Teitler? A.--Yes, sir.
a Q.--What are their full names? A.
:. There are two brothers, Irving an
s David.
4 Q.-Irving and David Teitler7 A.
a Yes, sir.
u Q.-Did they operate bussss1 A.
II They did.
Q.-Were they laid Of from opera
tion? A.--Why. they were promised
good line by paying certain sum.
Q-What was the sunni Al can