The New York herald., 1922-01-08


years in preparing for Easter week
had agreed TO come into it. He hao
been opposed to sending delegates to
London because of the influence te
which they would be subjected. The
negotiations were maneuvers by Lloyd
George to get the better of them
Lloyd George had tried terrorism, and
when It failed. resorted to wiles. The
Irish delegates had agreed TO their
instructions, which were that they
were to sign no treaty without first
submitting the matter 10 the Cabinet
They had been broken, for over q
month before the treaty there Were
forty conferences confined to two oi
their five delegates, and that made
him suspicious.
Challenge to Griffith.
He challenged Mr.. Griffith why
these subconferences had been held
and asked who arranged them, and
Mr.. Griffith replied that it was the
British Government. Then he had
asked who picked the two, Griffith
and Collins, and the answer was, the
British Government. The British Gov
ernment knew these two men were
the weakest Of the team.
No wonder there was jubilation in
England when the treaty was signed
He hoped the Dali would not consent.
All the delegates had to do was TO
recommend the treaty, and they need
not vote for it at all.
Harry j. Boland explained that he
had learned from the President that
the minimum was external associa-
ton. He thought when he heard Of
the treaty in America that The mini
mum had been achieved and Ireland
had come within the comfy of ma
tions But when he saw the text OF
the treaty in the papers he knew that
it was not SO, and he opposed it.
At this point Mr.. Collins interjected:
1T wort do, Harry"
Arthur Griffith then rose to finish
the debate.
The Sim Fein had stood down to
allow John Redmond 10 get as
much as possible in the home rule
bill, because then the country could
do no better. He had met the south
ern Unionists because they were his
countrymen, and there should be fair
play for everybody. He would meet
the Ulster Unionists on the same
basis. He declared its opponents were
trying to reject the treaty without
giving the Irish people chance. He
referred TO Abraham Lincoln in his
debate and said the American mar
tyred President used to say he would
always consult the will of the people,
not only those who elected him but
those who opposed his election.
Heatedly resentlng repeated at
tempts to interrupt him during his
address, Mr.. Griffith cried:
There is no power in this junta to
intimidate me, any more than Dublin
Castle could"
There was an angry scene when
Mr. Griffith said that they could not
so on any platform in their constitu-
cncies and disapprove of the treaty
Where was e!f-determination? Hos
tility to the will of the people was as
great an usurpation as Dublin Castle
and. he added, emphat!caliy, my
power will be used against it,
If the Dali rejected the treaty the
Irish people would throw them out
for incompetence. He would not agree
to cruelty the Irish people for for
mula. He would have Ireland for the
Irish, with monarchy, II he could
not have it with n republic.
DE Valera Says People VIII Judge
At the conclusion of Mr.. Griffith's
speech Mr.. De Valera rose TO say the
Irish people would judge between the
treaty, which left everything implied,
and his document, which was explicit.
1t was a case of Flood and Grattan
over again.
"I suppose the Irish volunteers are
to be discarded next?" exclaimed DE
Valera. He announced that the re-
public would go on until the Irish
people disestablished it.
Speeches by Harry Boland and
Joseph McGrath of Dublin were fea-
lures of the morning session, espe-
cially that of McGrath, who disclosed
that Boland's last trip to the United
States, according to Boland himself
was made at the initiative of Eamor
de Valera to acquaint American sym
pathizers with the Irish cause with
the fact that 1t would be necessary In
negotiating peace to accept something
short of a republic.
Boland went into some details with
regard to the help America had given
Ireland in her struggle. In going into
this subject Boland remarked that
Michael Collins a few weeks ago had
made a statement about Americans
which had placed him CBoland) in an
embarrassing position.
Collins interrupted the speaker al
this point to remark: And which
every true American appreciates"
Boland added that the bulk of the
American people favored the treaty
and that so did the American press
like the Irish press.
Was this treaty final settlement?
Boland asked.
Following Boland, Joseph McGrath
who is in close touch with the labor
movement, said he had done his best
in Easter week. 1916. but knew they
wouldn't get a republic. lie was now
five years older than he had expected
TO be, he remarked amid laughter.
McGrath argued that Eamon dc
Valcra's document, even II II were ac-
cepted by the British. would not end
the matter or help the republican pro-
gram.
DE valera Explanation.
Mr.. dc Valera rose and protested
against McGrath's reference 20 a
document which its author had been