The New York herald., 1922-05-31

pidHS. t1e uecliTeS tnat former Pres
understood Russia, but believes tha
fed view"
The War Commissar received T
N somewhat martial surroundings in
the War Ministry. The approaches
are guarded by strong detachments
of soldiers and sentries abound in
every corner. Trotzky himself was
the only personI I saw in civilian at
tire. He seemed tired and drawn,
but received me with pleasant cor.
diality.
Farley Not BusinessIike.
You want to know what I think
of the results of the Genoa confer
ence?" he said, Struggling his shoul-
ders eXpressively. 1--WE had imagined
that the conference was to be prirna-
rily a business meeting to discuss
business matter in a business way. We
were wrong. Business matters could
hardly be seen through the political
fog. At one time the prospects seemed
indeed hopeless But way out has
offered itself. Political and military
questions apparently are to be sepa-
rated from the business question and
graphing seriously with economic
problems.
1--WE certainly approve of this. II
i5 our own way. If the Powers can
become agreed upon these disturbing
political problems the way will be
cleared for an economic understand
ing. But confess the reception given
the Rapallo (Russo- Germany treaty
was not very encouraging. Here was
a purely economic treaty, yet the an
nouncement was received with a storm
OF suspicion from all quarters"
l pointed out that those suspicious
were not of an economic order but
referred to political and military mat
ters.
you mean the absurd reports Of
military convention" Trotzky asked.
"Well, we have denied those reports
and the German Government has de-
MED them. What more Go vcn wsntf
Ready to Treat With All.
"Or course" he added. pensively.
ito a certain degree the Rapallo treaty
was political. 1t was bound to be.
But it was political only in the sense
that it restored the elementary ma
chinery of diplomatic intercourse to
Germany and ourselves. This talk Of
a secret alliance or n formal military
convention will impress nobody who
does not want to have it believed for
purposes of his own. 1t is sheer nom
sense. We are ready to conclude 'Ra-
pallo' treaties with any and every ma
tion."
In giving his opinion of the pros
poets OF European peace he said: II
do not believe that there Is in War
saw Bucharest or Belgrade any
statesman sufficiently mad to embark
light heartedly upon repetition OF
the policy of Intervention in Russian
affairs. I think that Genoa has "a
last attained this: That European
statesmen realize the Soviet republic
has come to stay. 1t is now an estab-
lished fact. You cannot destroy II by
ignoring it."
All attempts to draw him out on the
supposed aggressive intentions of the
Soviet Government. certain eventual-
ties and on recent important military
concentrations on the Polish and Ru-
manian frontiers having met with
silence or vague evasion l asked Trot-
zky with what countries the Sovie.
Government thought a working ar
most likely. He replied:
II am afraid that in the meantime
France and Belgium are out OF the
question. They have adopted a doc
trinaire attitude which bears no sort
Of relation 10 the real facts. But an
agreement is quite possible with Great
Britain and Italy. On the condition.
however. that the financial demands Of
Urquhart and similar capitalists be
kept vigorously out of the discussion.
Main Hope fn America.
"Our main hope is founded upon an
with the United States
For time, under the Wilson Admin
istration there was in American gov
erning circles n dcplorable misunder-
standing OF our aims ami purposes.
I am not i'm as close touch
with American authoritative opinion
as should wish. | have reason TO be-
lieve that President Harding takes
view.
Moreover. we have interests In
The expansion Of japan. not