New-York tribune., 1922-12-03
Child Gives Stand When
Ismet Refuses TO Bulge
on Abolishing All For.
eign Holds on Moslems
Solid Opposition
Put Up by Allies
AmericaRe aRecognizesNoAb-
rogation of Rights; Bars
Up to Greek Refugees
By Wilbur Forrest
,scloi Cable 10 me Tribune

posed Dy ali the powers assembled
here, including the United States,
Turkey to-day refused TO bulge an
inch from her demand for complete
abolition Of the cspitulations under
which foreigners have for centuries
been allowed certain freedom in their
religious and commercial pursuits on
| Turkish soil.
ISmet Pasha. head Of the Turkish
Nationalist delegation, branded these
capitulations as inconsistent with
Turkish sovereignty. Despite the array
Of opposition to the Ottoman stand,
in the face Of IL the conference found
only one course open--to refer the
matter back TO subcommittee for
further study. This was what II did.
The United States lined itself up
! with Great Britain, France. Italy and
| japan in the course of the long dis
cussion over this matter, Ambassador
| Child explaining in a brief speech that,
because OF the legal eonsiderations In
volved, America was obliged TO take
the same attitude adopted By the
others. This was n polite way OF In
forming the Turks America concurs In
the decision Of the other interested
nations that IL the Turks Insist the
capitulations may be abolished, but
only on condition that they are re-
placed with definite guarantees.
Ismet Holds to Stand
Ismet's answer 20 this is that guar
antics and capitulations are synono-
nous. He stood pat to-day on this at
titude, although in the face Of the
great opposition with whieh ne was
confronted he did not object 70 the
subject being turned back 20 a sub
committee. Unohicially, however, he
| declared later that there Is no chance
that Turkey will consent to anything
short OF the complete elimination OF
this medieval humiliation.
The American attitsde in this mat
ter. as stated by Ambassador Child to-
day, leaves no room for speculation
.1he status OF all Americans in Turkey,
including the many American rehef
workers and missionaries, is at stake,
"The position Of the United States
he declared, "fs exactly that stated by
the Allied powers in regard TO rights
arising under the capitulations. The
United States has not recognized end
does not nov recognize the attempted
abrogation Of these rights. This dele
CATION believes, however. that there Is
In this whole subject an interest COM
mon 10 all concerned and that the
sooner II Is explored the better"
Garroni Gives Allied View
The MARQUIS di Garroni, head Of the
Italian delegation, stated the Allied
view with sufficient eloquence and
reason 10 bring both Marquis Curzon
and Emil Barrcre, head OF the French
negotiators, Immediately TO his side. :.
"Jhe capitulations we're not forced
on Turkey,p he said, "but were granted
by the Sultsns to encourage foreign
trade. They have worked exceedingly
we'll, and been confirmed by various
treaties. The present Turkish. claim
that they contrsvene national SOW
ereignty Is not sustained"
Foreigners, he added, arc extremely
anxious In regard TO commercial en-
terprises which were undertaken un-
der extra-territorial rights IN Turkey,
and the Turkish government he said,
must give these foreigners acceptable
guarantees Of protection under what
ever system they propose as SUB
stitute for the eapitulations.
Ismet's answer was: No capitula-
tions, and no substitutes therefor. lie
did promise. however. that foreigners
in Turkey would be fully protected.
Ismet, declaring the capitulations
were an outgrowth Of the Middle Ages,
protested they extend privileges only
10 one side. Experience, he said, mas
shown that they are unnecessary ana
since they are not bilaterai, tney can
be denounced absolutely.
Challenged by Curzon and Barrere
Both Curzon and Barrere challenged
4hc iittie Ottoman on this point, say
inc the capitulations arc based on
tveaty rights and therefore cannot be
denounced By one side only, e -
retorted doggedly that any sysIe,n, y.
substitutions would DC slmp'y S"P''
lations under another name. ,o,1
Marquis Curzon replied thst N r asr,'
when the Turks first rejecte9 ths pr.
ciplc Of the cspitulations, al the mn
tions protested, even germany .has
IuStris. both OF which were AZ tna.
time Turkish allies. Furthermore, ne.
said the cspitulations cannot nov ,, ps
rodidrd without the consent OF ~
sivnatories 20 the treaties unoer NH'S"
they operated. - -sne;cle
n csnitulations was Incompatible WIT
tbc i3ea Of an independent state, ~
bence unacceptable 20 Turkey, Notn
80 abort OF complete reciProsSiv
upaer international law was admissiO's'
u" nsiegate Hyashi, Japanese spokes
nar then attempted 10 cool the WV
tcoutlausd On nsst psss)