Evening star., 1922-04-16

er and shouting at the top OF his
voice, Representative Gallivan, demo-
crat, Massachusetts. made an earnest
appeal to the House to provide the
bigger force.
"As 1 said before, ] say now, that
while Congress is ready to vote mil
lions OF dollars for the prohibition
Navy in this hour. it would give only
pennies for the flag" he declared.
Monden Urges Bill.
Urging the House to stand by the
committee bill. Representative Mon
dell, Wyoming, republican leader, de-
clared it was his "unalterable pur-
pose to uphold and sustain the Presi-
dent Of the United States. his secre-
tary of State and the American dele
gates to the Washington Arms Limi-
tation Conference by voting for the
reduction in naval personnel and
naval costs contemplated by the
treaty which they negotiated and
faithfully reflected in the appropria-
tions carried by the bill"
The republican leader contended
that. while the arms conference
agreement bound the United States
in the number Of effective fighting
ships, Congress was not bound In
the matter Of personnel or cost OF
the Navy.
Chairman Madden of the appropri-
alton committee asserted he believed
the American people were in favor
of decent economy in the prepara-
ton of the Navy bill.
Representative Madden told the
House that Chairman Kelley of the
subcommittee, which framed the
measure, knows more about the Navy
than amy Navy officer" who appeared
before the subcommittee. and added
q few minutes later, amid burst Of
cheers, that naval officers could get
a few pointers from members Of the
subcommittee.
Knoeks Navy Experts.
Recalling that when the Navy De-
partment several months ago re-
questsd q deficiency appropriation of
about s12,o00.ooo for fuel. the House
appropriations committee cut the
amount to approximately $e.ooo,ooo
with 4 result that Navy ofhcials said
they would have to tie up ships" MT.
Madden said that several days ago
he received a letter from Secretary
DENLY stating q mistake had been
made in submitting the estimate and
that $7,7oe.o00 would have beensade-
quate.
THAT shows how much we can de-
pend on experts" added Mr.. Madden
Mr.. Madden predicted that repub-
licans who favored the increase would
hear from the votere in November
"If Congress insists on being ex-
travagant. q deficit Of $5oO.ooo.o 200
| will be incurred and we will have to
go to the public with q new tax BILL
the committee chairman asserted.
Republicans and democrats favor
ing the $1,000 quota rose and tend
cred Mr.. Madden an ovation as he
concluded with the statement that
| republicans. II they stood by the bill
, would be able to 60 to the public
with q record Of decent and reason
able economy"
Representative Byrnes. South Car
olina, democratic member Of the sub
committee. declared that II $1,000
| meant a ratio OF IN for the United
States instead Of s. then "those de-
manding an increase ought to vote
for an enlisted personnel Of 1a6.0oo.'
Charges Experts Disagree.
Attacking the testimony Of naval
experts, Mr.. Byrnes exclaimed: rely
on them! Never. when no two Of
them could stand by the same figures
any two days. charge that the
conclusion reached by the President
| in saying that the bill violates the
6-5.3 ratio. was based on statements
to him that the British force next
wear would be greater than It Is"
Declaring the country should remem.
ber the lessons from the world war
REPRESENTATIVE Kahn, republican. Cali
fornia, pleaded for q Navy with mer
enough to Keep It on its fees. .,..,,u
| speech, his supporters rising as he tool
! the floor
said Mr.. Kelley. I'VE took the position
| that the department was not entitled
\ to one single dollar unless it could si'
on the other side OF the table and show
| where II was needed. We assumed thai
| was what Congress wanted.
| -.T might say At the outset that w
did not accept the advice Of the nava
experts"
without calling names. Mr.. Kelle,
sharply criticised "the military head
! Of the naval establishment" who, h
eaid, had come before two House com
mittees on two separate OCCASION
within . month and made varying