The New York herald., 1922-04-11
DISARMAMENT VITAL;
BUT PEACE BASIS FIRST
Lloyd George Gains Russo
French Clash at First Session.

LoNpoN, April IL Tuesday. - The
correspondent of the London Times at
Genoa, writing of the disagreement be-
tween Tchitcherin and Barthou over dis
armament says that Premier Lloyd
George. In answering the Russian Soviet
delegate, insisted that the conference
would be a failure unless it led ulti-
mateiy to disarmament, but urged that
before disarmament came there must be
peace and peace basis at Genoa.
Mr.. Lloyd George begged Tchltcherin
to confine himself to the agenda and not
press for an extension of the Genoa con-
ference.
IF you superadd to our proposals"
he declared, you will wreck the con-
ference"
Turning to the delegates, the British
Prime Minister exclaimed: IF M.
Tchftcherin removes the load line OF our
conference ship he will sink 1t, and
would point out that he might be among
the drowned. We may have rough
time ahead, and we don't want to be
overloaded"
The matters on the agenda. continued
Nr. Lloyd George. were enormously inn
portant and 1t would be criminal to de-
stroy the hope of millions of people by
endeavoring to solve more problems than
could possibly be managed.
Let M. Tchitcherfn finish this voy-
age" he advised, land go home with all
re can carry; then we will welcome him
OIL another voyage when we know what
scrt of passenger he is.'
President Facta seconded Mr.. Lloyd
Georges appeal not to wreck the con-
ference; he considered II would be wise
not to carry the discussion further. Be-
fore these words could be translated,
M. Barthou protested: II want 10
know-yes or no. Have all the delega-
tions here accepted the Cannes resolu-
ton? IL not. we cannot continue the
discussion. II they have. we'll and
good"
The correspondent adds. Thus the
incident closed. though not very salts
factorily. Signor Facta reiterated that
he thought the discussion should end.
and NJ. Barthou made a discontented
sign of assent"
The incident occurred. according to
the correspondent, when the Soviet For
eign Minister, following Fscta, Lloyd
George. Barthou. wirth and the spokes-
men or Japan and Belgium welcomed
Mr. Lloyd Georges assurance that the
members OF the conference were met on
absolutely equal terms. annsunced the
Bolshevik acceptance of the cannes res
olution. and added that in sore respects
s'the Russian Government" v-uld desire
to 20 beyond the Cannes resolution. NJ.
Tchitcherin said that Russia would sup
port any proposals 20 avoid new war.
or designed TO tighten the burden OF
armaments. but must demand as indis-
pensable a guarantee against attacks
from the outside. and also demand
financial reciprocity.
The sense OF NJ. Tchitcherins speech
was so clear and so disquietlng that
when he sat down NJ Bar.nou imme-
diately took exception to the speech.
M Tchitcherin has announced his
intention OF introducing the question
OF disarmament. which is not on the
agenda., declared NJ. Barthou. "aud
say simply. but clearly. that when and
IL Russia wants to examine this aues-
tion she will be faced not only by the
reserve OF France. but with her protest
and an absolute. final and derisive re-
fusal to discuss H."
M. Barthou pointed out that in an
earlier speech he was conciliatory. but
there were times when he must say no.
He was convinced that the Italian dele
cation would support him. insisting that
no one could escape the Cannes resolu-
tions directly OF indirectly.
Tchitcherin listened In silence to the
translation OF the speech. He rose
again and explained that he did not
know the conference program officially.
but only through newspapers. The
aRenda presumably was provisional he
was only asking for information and
was willing to bow before the collective
decision OF the conference. He quoted
NJ BRAND at the Washington conference
sregarding Russia's armament. and said
For us this is n capital question, but
we are here in conciliatory spirit and
will therefore do as the conference de-
slres"
Mr. Lloyd George spoke after NJ.
Tchitcherin. Signor Facta said he con-
sidered the Cannes resolutions as clear
az the two best languages. English and
French. could make them. and con-
ciuded with q final appeal