The Telegraph-courier. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1888-1946, 1922-01-12
Fisher Statement Tells Jury
of Protection Ring" in County

Q-Who had some talk about it
afterwards?
A-The sheriff and undersheriff.
Q-Meyers and you?
Ayes, sir
Q-Where was that talk?
A-That talk was in his house, I
think.
Q-Whose house?
A-Meyers. That is, mean at the
Q-Sheriffs Office?
Ayes, in the house.
Q-You went in his living quarters?
Meyers Wanted Two-Thirds.
Ale called me in there one day
and said that-He never had any
money-he never gave me any. I don't
know, but he said that from what the
fellows paid in he ought to have two
thirds, because he had an extra man
there helping him. Why, you know
that man, don't know. l didn't pay
much attention to it. I went right on
out, and didn't even get any money
or anything.
Q-Did you assent?
A-No. He just simply said that to
me. never had anything to do with
him. AS | remember now, he was
pretty well "lit up" when he told me
that, and I went right on out of the
place. Whether he had any money,
and was going to give it to be or not,
don't know.
Odd Meyers himself ever pay you
any money?
A--No, l don't think he ever paid
me a cent.
Q-What did he say about an extra
man?
A-Why, let ssee: Ritter was under
sheriff. Oh, yes, he had his brother
in-law in the office, Mr.. Schulien, the
fellow that was down there at the
bank. 1 suppose that is what he meant
by having an extra man around. He
had turnkey and an undersheriff too.
Q-He didn't refer to Herman Pias
A-No, he never said a word about
Herman Pias. Herman IPias l only
know through that incident at Cen
trail Park.
Q-Who was to pay this money of
which you were to receive one-third ?
Never Knew the Source.
A-Well, just exactly what source
they got it from is pretty hard for me
to tell. / presume it was the slot
machines. Of course, they were stop
ped pretty quick after that again, and
then started up again. But there
never was any talk about anything ex-
cept this stuff in the county. They
never said anything to me about any
thing from any gambling. Whether
they got anything or not, I don't know.
l always thought they were.
Q-What made you think so?
A-These fellows were running, and
they didn't do anything by way of
stopping them.
Q-What fellows were running?
Al mean when Jacobson was run
ming, and Grant.
Q-In the city?
Ayes, sir.
Q-Was that during Meyers admin
istration?
A-Oh, yes, sure.
,Q-1919 and 1920?
Ayes, sir.
Q-Were complaints ever made to
you about that? l refer to gambling
places?
A-Oh, yes, we closed up Grant and
Ollie. We got those fellows l was.
after the chief particularly to close
those fellows. They were the worst
in town. We had complaints of young
fellows up there gambling, and all that
sort of thing, and finally we got them
out; and they moved to Central Park,
and we got them out of there. I guess
they are gone now.
Q-When did you get your next
money?
A-Oh, some time along that spring,
think. t@j
Q-How much were you paid the
second time?
A-Well, it seems to me it was one
small payment that spring; and then
it seems to me there was 100000; and
it seems to me it run on good while
before anything else.
GLOW much was the small pay
ment?
Al think it was seventy-fve or a.
hundred dollars.
Q-The second time?
A-No, I think the second one was
about 100000, later that year.
Q-Then you did not mean to say
there were three payments that spring /?
A-No.
Q-The first seventy-fve or humid
red and the second three hundred?
Al think so.
Q-Who paid the three hundred?
Ritter the Paymaster.
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