New Ulm review., 1922-09-13

alley alongside the Jourqal building.
He saw them use The brush, ibroou: and
pail before they left. One Of the two
men looked like" Robert BartL He
walked home after that. Told P.
Liesch one night later. Also described
the two. men to sheriff and county
attorney. The other man was probably
little taller but somewhat lighter
than Bartl.
Upon cross examination, he stated
that he did not know the other man at
all. But one of the men looked like
Bartl although he would not "swear
to it." He didn't know whether the
man who looked like Bartl wore a hat
or cap. Didn't know whether he had
on a coat or not. He couldn't recog-
nize either one Of the men. It might
have been somebody else than Bartl
for all he could say. The second man
looked like Joseph Michel. He didn't
form an opinion as to who the men
were that night but after talking it
over with P. Liesch and the county
attorney and sheriff, he had come to
the conclusion that it was Robert
Bartl. When asked if he had been
alone when he went from Manderfeld's IS
saloon, he answered quickly that he
had not. When asked who was With
him, he hesitated and finally said that
a friend" Of his had walked down to
German Park with him, but he didn' t
know the name of this friend" The
friend had a bottle on his hip and Carl
son had s'just one, little drink" The
''little drink was the only one he
had had all that day. The friend left
him near the telephone company's
building and Carlson was alone when
he saw the painting.
Thought They Did Good Job.
When asked if he thought it was
right or wrong that the building was
painted yellow, he answered that in
one way it wasn't right and that may
be in another it was. He finally agreed
that it was wrong. Mr.. Pfaender then
asked him why he didn't interfere to
which he answered: II thought they
we're doing good Job and had better
finish it up.' He didn't tell the police
about it and P. Liesch was the first
he told it to. He went to the home OF
Liesch right after the Journal was out
offering the reward Of $50 but didn't
know anything about the reward of-4
'ered till told by the peace officers.
Telling about how he came to think
that one of the two men was Robert
Bartl, he said: "It just came in
my mind and then slipped out again.
It was quite dark that night. What he
thought to be the other man, may have
been the shadow on the wall Of the one
man. Looked like two men."
Afternoon Session.
When court convened after the noon
recess, Mr.. Carlson's memory was much
improved. He then remembered that
P. Liesch was not the first man he had
told at all. He told Charley Mander-
field the very next morning. And in
some way the news got to the sheriff
and the county attorney and they came
out to Searles to see him about it also
before he told Liesch. He could re-
member all that after dinner, but it
had slipped his mind before dinner
Had also been at the county attorneys s
office the same evening before he, went 'e mt
down to see Eesch- at his horne. He
also remembered that it had been
talked between the sheriff and him
that one man hooked like Anton Hem
le and that Carlson had agreed at
that time that one man did look like
Anton Henle. But he was positive
now that it was not Anton Henle.
That he had first thought the man
to be Michoel and later Anton Henle,
two men SO very different in build and
weight, was something that he couldn't
explain. County Attorney. Eckstein
tried to get him to say that according to
This best opinion" one Of the men was
Robert Bartl. But the witness wouldn't
do that. He merely said that he
Cooked ike Robert Bartl. Answer
ing question by the county attorney
he said that the reason he had not
nterefered was because he didn't
have the nerve Et
Esser Cave Damaging Testimony.
w. j. Esser, 81 years old, married,
in business at 113 IL North Mime
sofa street, gave the most damag gine
evidence against the defendant. He
said that BaTtl had come into his
place Of business at $50 ia the eve.
ming Of August s28th and asked fol
$40. Esser refused to pay. At 1890
Bartl came again and said: Sits al
right. Il That was all the county at
torney could get him to tel. 1rh,
county attorney then tried to hav,
Esser admit what he had said in :
statement made to the sheriff one da,