Evening journal. [volume] (Wilmington, Del.) 1888-1932, 1922-10-10

Mrs. Edward Schneider. mothe
of Raymond Schneider, who is saiC
to have accused Clifford Hayes o
the murder, together with her sis
ter, Miss Mary Conboy. and hei
husband, expressed their conviction
that young Schneider had nothing
TO do with the crime. Mrs. Schneid
err was so badly upset by the inter
view that she tainted twice.
do you think he would have
stayed around here all this time il
Raymond had been the murderer
she asked HE has been just as
normal and quiet during the last
few weeks as he ever was. playing
the piano or victrola, and showing
that nothing was Weighing on his
mind.
you know he couldn't have been
so carefree IL there had been any
thing like that terrible Hall murder
on his mind He is my boy. and ]
love him, but il he weren't my boy
I should still know that Ray never
could have committed such muir
der. When his brother Harold died
he could not bear to look at the
body, so sensitive is he about such
things"
With this statement, Mrs.
Schneider became so upset that she
was obliged to go upstairs and lie
down. Mr.. Schneider said:
I'VE can only hope for the best
His actions since the time OF the
crime and the willing manner in
which he has answered all questions
put to him by any one convince me
that he is thoroughly innocent, and
will prove himself So"
Leon Kaufman, one Of the young
boys on whose testimony the prose-
cutting officials are seeking to weave
a net of evidence around young
Hayes, repeated for newspaper men
much the same story that he Is said
to have told to the county detec-
tives during the long questioning on
Sunday.
Young Kaufman is a bright-eyed,
olive-skinned youth of fifteen. He
admits that he was with Schneider
on the evening of the murder. but
maintains that after they met Hayes
he left them and went TO his home,
arriving there about IL o'clock.
The prosecution lays much stress
on the fact that certain words pass
ed between Schneider and Hayes
while the two were standing in front
of Johnston and Johnston's factory,
which would indicate that Hayes
was carrying a pistol with him.
said:
II met Schneider coming out of
the Rivoli Theater and went with
him up George street. In front Of
and Johnston's factory we
met Hayes. Hayes said he had seen
Pearl BANNER and a drunken man
going toward Buccleuch Park. Hayes
seemed to be pretty sore about it and
he and Schneider talked in angry
tones for a few minutes. Then l left |
hem"
Asked II he saw whether Hayes |
had a revolver. Kaufman said he
was not sure, but that at one time |
Turing the conversation with Schnei |
der Hayes had put his hand to his |
waistband and said something about |
not worrying over what might hap |
pen. Kaufman said he thought he
recognized a holster, but was not
sure of 1t today, though he was pos
tive last night.
Assume Crime Was After N1idniglS.
The commitment papers that were
sent to Somerville when Hayes was
actually taken to Jail gave the date
Of the crime as September Is. indi-
eating that the prosecutors believe
hat the actual killing occurred after
midnight on the night Hall and Mrs
Mills disappeared.
Each had left home after Z o'clock |
n the evening. Whether either was
cen thereafter is a matter of doubt, |
tories conflicting. Mrs. Mills was /
cen, said one witness. riding toward |
he park on a trolley car at $40. |
mother asserted that she saw both,
t different times. beyond the end of |
he car line at o'clock.
This was on the Thursday evening.
Witnesses disagree about hearing
hots and screams. so that heretofore
has been quite impossible to fix
he time of the killing. The bodies