The New York herald., 1921-06-17
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rupted a reporter. weren't these guns
to be smugeled to O'Brien of Dublin"
God, no." said O'Neill.
did you say God knows?"
II did not. / do not know what their
destination was. will not tell you
anything about Williams, or where he
lives. or where he does business. He
doesn't want me to. All ] can tell
you is that he had the guns here in
New York and sent them by truck on
June II to CampbelPs Warehouse in
Hoboken. The trucl1man came back
without the receipts that the warehouse
people should have given him. Will
Jams sent the man back to get the re-
ceipts. and that's the last we saw of
the man.
''If the Department of Justice wants
Williams it knows where to get him.
He gave one of the departments men
his address this afternoon He prom
ised to be where he can be found if
wanted. Now it's up to some one else
We've done all we could do.
VIII Fight for the Guns.
''Under the writ of detention obtained
by the Government the goods can be
disposed of by the Government on con-
demnation proceedings after thirty
days. But we want those guns. They
belong to us. We shall fight to get
them"
The confscated guns were manufac-
tured by the Colt Manufacturing Com
pany of Hartford. Conn. Samuel NJ
Stone of that company declared yes
terday that they had been shipped to
the Auto-Ordnance Corporation. 302
Broadway, New York, in the usual
manner.
M. II. Thompson. sales manager for
the Auto-Ordnance Corporation. and
son of the inventor Of the gun, de-
clared that he never had heard of Will
Jams. nor did the corporations books
show that any sale had been made to
a man of that name.
'The Thompson sub machine gun Is
made for us by the Colt people" ex-
planned Mr.. Thompson. I'VE are the
sole distributors to jobbers. We have
no record of sale to man named
Williams. / never heard of him and
have no idea how he got so many OF
them. although it is entirely possible
for him to do so--for anybody to do so
1T is possible that he canvassed. or
his agents canvassed, a number of cities
for the guns. We have never sold 60C
to any one person and know of no per-
son or concern having that many. We
are six months behind in our orders
and the Colt people can turn them out
at the rate of 500 or so a week. Natu-
rally after they leave our hands we
lose trace of the guns. The New Yori
Police Department has adopted them
They are easily handled by one man
are deadly weapons in rapid fighting
because they are so easy to carry
about"
Guns Are Being Traced.
The Department of Justice men anC
the officials Of the Auto-Ordnance Cor
poration are engaged in tracing the
guns by their serial numbers. Williams
says he had 500 guns. SO that no trace
has been found of 105. The investiga-
tors discovered that on some of the con.
fiscated weapons the Serial numbers
have been obliterated, but not on all
One gun bore the number 701. Another
was No. 915. Evidently they were among
the first Of the Thompson guns manufac.
tured. The corporation has been putting
out guns for about two years.
The detailed story of how the machine
guns got into the East Side was tolt
last night by person in position tt
know. 1t seems that last week gant
of strike agitators boarded the East Side
and beat up the engine room crew Sc
badly that the latter deserted Hoboken
The East Side. scheduled to sail Mon
day or Tuesday. had to have an engine
room crew and chief engineer
On Saturday night a giant with an un
mistakable brogue applied for the job o
chief engineer. He was grabbed by thu
Cosmopolitan people before they ever
asked for his name and credentials.
do you want crew for the engin'
room along with me?" he demanded.
They told him that they wanted moth
ing else SO much as a crew.
"I have my own with me-" said tn
stranger.
New Engine Crew ON Ship.
Saturday night the new engineer an,
his crew slowed their things in the engi
neers' quarters But they were stranger
and so cocky that the seamen and othe
sailors began to suspect that they wer
men planted aboard by the strikers
There was prospect of trouble and sew
eral of the seamen quit. saying that the
did not want to be killed by the huskie
who had taken over the engine room.
According to member of the crey
questioned last night by the Department
OF Justcei men, all the new engine roon
crew were Irishmen. Sunday mornin
several motor boats drew alongside th
East Side. The chief engineer and hi
men boldly proceeded to throw rope
over the side. and the men in tn
launches tied the bags and boxes thereto
There was no secrecy affected. Tn
bags and boxes were left strewn acros
the deck.
But one suspicious seaman suspecte
bomb plot He slit a bag, saw ma
chino glin and dacided IN inform, fb,