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Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
GIRL COMPLETES
HER LONG SWIM

New York. Sept accomplishing 4
146-mile swim began at Albany laSst
Friday, Miss Mi1iiesGade,,..2 az years old.
q swimming INSTRUCTORS at the New
York Young Women's Christian asso-3
3ciation, arrived at Battery Park this
morning. IA launch and row boat ac-
comparied heradown the Hudson and
she slept and ate aboard the launch.
She ssslefts-Albany last Friday morn
ing and covered, including detours,
approximately 1853 miles She waS in
the water 63 hours and as minutes.
Mas Glade, It is Rid. Is the first
swimmer to make the Albany-NeM
York swim for Is years.
Members Of Mlas Gade's party said
that she had 3nearly u the record
for the swim In halt The total
elapsed time when the feat WAS Ac-
Sconnpiished by man named Cooper,
As years ago, was II days and 4 hours.
Her total elapsed time Was egYeni as
8 days hour and 4 minutes. Va
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
GRADE LAW
rs AGAIN HELD
UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Fargo, N. u, Sept. 8.-The
state grain grading commission i
granted permission to carry the
question Of the constitutonality
Of the state grading laws to the
United States supreme court for
final decision, according to deci-
sion today in United States dis.
strict, court here. The district court.
granted the commission permis-
sion! to continue the state. law
temporarily though it: held the
law unconstitutional.
The decision came in action
brought by elevator interests,
asking that the law be declared.
unconstitutional and that it be not
enforced.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
FOR
GOLF TOURNEY
IS ANNOUNCED
Public is Invitedt 70 Attend
the Exhibition Matches
sss On Sunday. 4

Arrangements have been complet-
editor the invitation goM tournament
which will be held at the local links
saturday and Sunday, o. w. Chaplin,
professional for the local club an
nounced today.
Word has been received from the
clubs at Fargo, Jamestown. Valley
city, Bismarck, Dickinson. Kenmare.
Minot, Devils Lake Crookstoh Be-
Inidji Park Rapids and Detroit. that
delegations will be sent to compete
IN the events and 1t is expected that
over 100 visiting golfers will WELD
their clubs in the contests
AS the course is limited to nine
holes. MI. Chaplin requests that ladies
as the links will be taxed to their car
pacity, and visitors will be given the
r~ight-of-way On these two days.
Tourney Begins Saturday.
Tho tournament play will begin at
o O'Clock SATURDAY. morning beginning
with q driving, approaching and a
putting contest. The driving of all
the players entered Saturday morn
ing will be registered at tho first tee.
The approaching contest will be at
the ninth hole, and the putting con-
lest will be staged on the ninth green,
Mr.. Chaplin announced. Suitable
prizes will be awarded to 'the win
ners Of these contests.
At 10 o'clock Saturday morning.
the 18-hole medal handicap round
will begin. and OF Sunday morning at
$3.50 the second 1S-hohe round will be
played. .
Exhibition matches sof the profess
sionals will begin at $3.50 Sunday
morning. Everyone Interested are
invited to attend these exhibition
matches, 1t was announced.
,rheNpros will play SO -hole matches,
which will be continued in the after
noon at $3.50 o'clock. The profess
SIGNALS will play for a purse. Prizes
will also be awarded for the low net
and GROSS, scores in both the 8 and
the Is hole matches.
In the play off in the shortstop
tournament yesterday, G. M. Booker
defeated Gordan Gray 3 UP. Booth
who drew a bye will play the final
match for the Investment Bankers
prize tomorrow with Booker.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
Bowlers Will Discuss
Plans For The Winter
AT Meeting Tonight

Plans for the activities Of the
Grand Forks Bowling association for
the winter will be discussed at the
meeting of the association to be held
this evening at s o'clock in the Com
mercial club rooms. A banquet will
the gathering and Immediately
,afterward a business session will be
held.
Talks are scheduled by various
'bowlers. following which discussion Of
plans outlined by the members of the
executive committee will be taken
up. Indications are that Grand Forks
is to experience n Of the greatest
bowling season in it's history as six
teen teams have been organized and
Din addition there are many enthusi-
.asts who are close followers Of the
game.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
LOCAL CATTLE '||'1|'I| !
TAKE HONOR||,S
Lilac Hedge Holsteins Win
ners at Aberdeen, s.
u, Fair.

$Holstein cattle owned ~ j. %.
Bacon of the Lilac Hedge farm. Grand
Forks. have captured q number Of
honors ~ IL Aberdeen, g.. D., fair.
according to word Eseslvsd here to-
day.
The list .of Asnsrs awarded. -
Lilac Hedge cattle includes tan firsts,
eight seconds and in addition. sra1A
champion bull, senior cha n,piOn bull
and junior champion heifer. N
]: Myron Bacon, who is In charge
deem, may take them to the Tri-State
fair at Sioux City. Ia, before return
ing to Grand Forks. 1t Is possible,
however. that the cattle will first be
brought back here and taken to Be-
midi to compete in the fair to be
held there.
At Aberdeen the Lilac Hedge cattle
competed with a number Of the best
herds in South Dakota.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
IN
DELIVERIES OF
SEPTEMBER WHEAT

Minneapolis. Sept. 8.-Congestion in
September delivery with no tenders
on contracts and frmness in the, cash
market, were the outstanding fea-
lures in the wheat market today.
Local receipts I'll off sharply and a
keen demand from mills absorbed the
cash wheat offerings readily. There
was an early setback in the futures.
September sold Off /. 1-4@1 3-4 cents
early. touching S1.38 :$1-4 and ad-
vanced to $1.43 before mid-session. a
reaction followed, but renewed buy
ing sent the market up to $1.44 1-2.
December sagged ! ga cents early to
$1.37 Ia. bulged to $1.41 1-8. reacted
and climbed to FLAP 3-8 later. May
sold off 2 "a cents to $40 and on
the last bulge reached $1.45. Durum
was unchanged with a fair demand.
Corn futures dragged Off 3-4 cents.
Oats futures dipped a fraction but
turned higher on moderate trade.
Rye gained after an early dip and
fax futures bulged sharply.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
For General
Farnsworth Wednesday

That service men should serve the
country now as faithfully as they did
four years ago was the keynote of an
address givenSby Major General c.. s.
Farnsworth at a dinner in his honor
wednesday night in the Frederick
hotel The dinner was given by
members of the Grand Forks post Of
the American Legion and the Fink
post or the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
II. Mayne Stanton. a former marine
sergeant, presided as POSTMASTER.
Welcome to the guest Of honor was
extended by Commander J. Harold
Lowe Of the Legion and Adtutant w.
K. Truemann of the Veterans OF For
eign Wars, following which Major A.
n. Brown OF the University OF North
Dakota gave a short talk.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
MAKE REPORTS
ON DOLLAR DAY
Merchants Association. te
Cooperate With KEN
Temple Circus Week.

Reports and discussions Of the Dol
lar Day sale held in Grand Forks
last Friday occupied the time at the
regular meeting OF the board of ii-
rectors Of the Merchants association
held today noon in the Hotel Da-
cotah.
While no figures are vet available
as to the volume Of business trans
acted. all merchants present at the
meeting reported the day to be a
grand success in regard to the volume
of business and to be an exceptional,
success in that the largest buying
crowd ever gathered in Grand Forks
at one time assembled here and that
the entire crowd went home satisfied
with the barga pofered in the city.
The question: Incorporation Of the
association with the KEN Circus
came up before the directors and 1t
was the consensus of opinion that the
merchants Of the city should put on
something special in the way of bar
gains during the circus week, Sep
TENDER 10 to "a.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
Baseball
NATIONAL LEAGUE.

llElAHUE.
Cincinnati at $50. I. .... 010 o
S s. nd W,ase: eassvss ! sns !
First gam- R.sH. e.
Phdiadelphia at. 900 900 s0os---s 10 3
Boston .. go. 00l los 100-6 16 q
Winters, Betts and Peters Bruggys
oeschger, Mcoulilian and Gowdy.
Second game 81,
sPhilade..phta q 1890. .a9..s.s. 900 a
smith and Brussy; watson md !
O'NeilI, u Ssg
AMERICAN LEAGUE
Detroit ut s.. .s. . $3.50. 900
1ss.s md Hs..isr; sethoron md
|O'Nelll.
New York at II. Il. :o03
coIIsns and sshanx; nonnsli and
Petkins
AMERroAN ASSOCIATION.
FirStagaE1e S
Milwaukee ..s ..ss III. 200
Iinsrsi and ssns.sock: wsinseks
and Crosby: 8
First galns n Il
n nSssnsns 4 &. 80 ~ SSi ID ID ;
wssvsr ana Dixon; Haid and Ml:
spn.
tLoutsy1ilG IT rs s.s. III. 81. 10t
tTQlR9A s.sss.sy 49,. 49,. u, .s..D0
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
THIRTY EXPECTED
AT CONFERENCE
ON UNEMPLOYMENT

Washington. Sept. s~.--Probably
thirty representatives OF various IN
~terests will sit In the approaching
conference on unemployment, Secre-S
tary Hoover said today after q con-
ference with President Harding.
The conference 1t 10 hoped. will be
held within the next two weeks, MI.
Hoover satd. Ia s.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
FORMER LOCAL MAN
WINS CHAMPIONSHIP

Word has been received in Grand
Forks TO the effect that Captain Ros-
o Fawcett, a former resident OF this
city, holds the golf championship OF
the Coronado Country club, San
Diego. Cal, winning the title on Aug
Captain Fawcett left Grand Forks
about twelve years ago for Portland,
Ore. He was at one time sporting
editoS OF the Portland Orcgonian.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
OVERLY TO DEVILS
LAKE TO GET. BOYS
ON LARCENY CHARGE

Deputy Sheriff Odin OVERLY left for
Devils Lake this morning to bring to
this city two boys wanted on a charge
of larceny. He will return here with
them tonight. The youths will be
brought up before the juvenile court.
Sheriff c. c.. Stewart and Deputy
Sheriff OVERLY made a trip to North
wood Wednesday afternoon, bringing
back two men on q charge of bootleg
cling. The alleped whiskey handlers
will be brought up here for hearing.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
Meeting Held To
Discuss Plans For
District Delegation

a meeting for the purpose Of dis
cussing plans relative to the sending
of a delegation from this district ito.
the national dairy shows$to be held
in Minneapolis in October was being
held this afternoon In the farm room
of the county court house. Gordon
1tural extension department of the
state. and Max Morgan. extension
dairy. cattle specialist, were in at
tendance at the meeting.
No definite plans had been made
regarding the delegation at 3 o'clock
this afternoon. g5S z5sgz
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
LIBE1RTY BONDS.

New York. Sept S.--Libcrty bonds
closed 31-2s 87.40;$8frst 4s 81 8 bid:
seconds A. S7s74i ,hrst 4s1-4S $780,;
seconds 4 1-2s 87.90:g third Las
S2.04; fourth 1-4s 800: Victory 3
SIS 1906; Victory 4 3-4s 81 .0S.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08

New York, Sept. S.--Cotton futures
closed very steady: October 1870;
December 1856: January 1895
March 1880; May lS.sA.t
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08

The case wa argued before
the district cpurt at Fargo Tues
day and "Wednesday Of this week
Tracy Bangs of Grand Forks
argued the case for the telephone
companies. while ATTORNEY Gea-
cral William Leanke appeared for
the state and B. #. Spalding for
tfaese9tT of FarRO. y
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Temperature, 81.
Maximum, ~ hours. 70.
Minimum, "a hours, 81.
Wind, southeast. 10 miles. Al
Precipitation. ~ hours. ~.
HaromcteG. reduced. 1919.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
DANGER FROM
FOREST FIRES
SEEMS ENDED

CONTINUED from page ~
will not be returned to their home
stations. Sf
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-09-08
Court Order "
Grants Phone
Rate Increase

Fargo. n. D., Sept. s.--A de-
casion In United States district
court today enjoins the state
railroad commission from cnforc-
ing Its order Of April g., 1921,
refusing the Northwestern Bell
and >cxchange4rates.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
HESUFFEREDFOR
FOUR LONG YEARS
AFTER OPERATION
She Took Earle's Hypo-Cod and
Now Recommends 1t.
Mother Also Took
This Tonic.

81 suffered from a nervous, rundown
condition, due to an abdominal opera
ton four years ago. My symptoms
were bilious attacks, the formation OF
gas on my stomach every night on
retiring. belching of wind, and the
worst of all was sleeplessness and
bronchitis. 1 secured Hypo-Cod be-
cause my mother, who had been in a
rundown condition for years, took it
and found it a wonderful help to her,
and 1 thought 1t might help me.
ssAIy relief through the use of this
tonic was that l am not now annoyed
with the gas formation during the
night. am not so dreadfully troubled
with sleeplessness, or bilious and the
ailments previously mentioned. My
nerves are much improved, which is
Godsend, for the past years were a
horrible nightmare.
"T have recommended this medicines
great merits to many of my friends
because it has helped me and my dear
mother back to health. A sister Of
mine has just recovered from an opera
ton and 1 have advised her to use
Hypo-Cod. too, and she has consented
most willingly, and trust it will bring
her health back as it has brought moth
er's and mine. My mothers name is
Mrs. Mary A. Quinter, 227. Water St,
Pottstown, Pa. My sisters name is Miss
Margaret Keim, 536 10Th ST., Phila-
delphia, Pa" declared Mrs. Hester G.
Bach, 536 N. 10th St., Philadelphia,
Pa.
Thousands Of users, old and young,
have found that Hypo-Cod is an ideal
tonic, that works so quickly, is so
pleasant to taste and puts you back
on your feet days and weeks sooner,
according to their statements. Drug
eists, chemists and experts assert that
the formula which is on each bottle is
good. Take home a bottle with you
tonight and see how nicely it does
the work.
Earle's Hypo-Cod is sold by all good
druggists.-Adv.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28

Appropriate Ceremonial.
''There is a suggestion to christen
some ships with cider"
"That probably is to assure their
being kept in apple pie order"
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
EVIDENTLY SET HIM THINKING
"reminiscences Of Sharp-voiced Woman
Woke Young Man to Possibili-
ties of Situation.

Charles" said sharp-voiced wom-
an to her husband in the smoking
compartment, 'do you know that you
and once had a romance On tramp
"Never heard of it." replied Charles,
in subdued tone.
II thought you hadn't, but don't you
remember it was a pair of slippers
presented to you the Christmas before
we were married that led to our union?
You remember how nicely they fitted,
don't you? Well, Charles, one day
when we were going to picnic, you
had your feet upon seat, and when
you weren't looking took your meas
ure. But for that pair of slippers I
don't believe we'd ever have been mar
ried."
A young, unmarried man, sitting
near by with girl, Immediately re-
moved his feet from the seat.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
HOW DOCTORS
TREAT COLDS
and The FLU
First Step in Treatment Is a Brisk
Purgative With Calotabs, the
Purified and Refined Calomel
Tablets that are Nausea
less, Safe and Sure.

Doctors have found by experience
that no medicine for colds and infu.
enza can be depended upon for full ef'
fectiveness until the liver is made thor
oughly active. That is why the first
step in the treatment is the new, nausea
less colonel tablets called Calotabs,
which are free from the sickening and
weakening effects of the old style calo'
mel. Doctors also point out the fact
that an active liver may go long way
towards preventing influenza and is one
Of the most important factors in en-
abling the patient to successfully with.
stand an attack and ward off pneu'
monia.
One Calotab on the tongue at bed
time with swallow of water-that s
all. No salts, no nausea nor the slight.
est interference with your eating, pleas.
ure or work. Next morning your cold
has vanished, your liver is active, your
system is purified, and you are feeling
fine, with a hearty appetite for break
fast. Druggists sell Calotabs only in
original sealed packages, price thirty
five cents. Your money will be cheer
fully refunded if you do not find them
delightful.-(Adv.)
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
Didn't RECOGNIZE Him

Gordon married a widow with eight
children, who, in course of time, pre-,
sented him with ten children. One
evening he found in the street where
he lived little boy, weeping bitterly
'What's the matter, little man?" in
quired Gordon, caressing him.
'sTve lost my way" sobbed the
youngster.
: "Then come home with me. I'll
give you something to eat and take
care of you"
Accordingly, our kind-hearted friend
took the little fellow home, and said
to his wife:
'See, dear. l have brought you this
child. I found him all alone in the
street. One more or less won't make
much difference; we will treat him as
If he were our own"
"Why, you stupid! Don't you know
him? It's our Percy !'-Columbus
Dispatch.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28

4 motor truck Is an Investment to
%s used in business.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
CONDITIONING BIRDS
FOR POULTRY SHOWS
Stand Better Chances for Win
ming if Well Trained.
Poultry Specialists Of United States
Department of Agriculture Give
Suggestions for Prepara-
tion of Fowls.

Although the larger poultry shows
are usually held in the fall, smaller eX-
hibitions are staged throughout the
winter months. The following advice
in training and conditioning birds pre-
vious to a show, given by poultry spe-
cialists of the United States Depart
ment of Agriculture, is good the whole
year round. The bird that has been
properly trained and prepared will
stand a better chance every time OF
winning a prize than another bird
equally good, but wild or easily fright
ened, or whose plumage is soiled or
dirty.
After the birds are selected, remove
them from the rest of the flock and
place each bird in an exhibition coop
for at least part Of each day. fowls
so confined will become accustomed to
the coop. Handling them-that is, re-
moving them from the coop each day
will have the effect of making them
tame. In handling the birds and re-
moving and returning them to and
from the coops move quietly and han
die the birds gently so as not to
frighten them.
Examine the plumage so that the
fowl will become accustomed to such
movements when being handled by the
Judge. Likewise, attempt to compose
the bird by smoothing and stroking the
wattles gently; this seems to have
soothing effect On the fowls, and when
done frequently and properly they
come to look for it when one approach
es the coop.
Birds to be exhibited should not be
confined to the exhibition coops for too
great a period, as long, continuous
cooping may cause them to get out of
condition and therefore unfit for show.
A satisfactory plan is to confine the
birds for a part of each day or every
other day alternately up TO few days
before sending them to the show, when
they should be confined until ready to
ship.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
Exact Copy of wrapper.
Oh, Fudge.
WHY DRUGGISTS RECOMMEND
SWAMP ROOT

For many years druggists have watched
with much interest the remarkable record
maintained by Dr.. Kilmers swamp Root,
the great kidney, liver and bladder medi-
cine.
It is a physicians prescription.
Swamp Root is Strengthening medi-
cine. It helps the kidneys, liver and blad.
der do the work nature intended they
should do.
Swamp Root has stood the test of years.
1t is sold by all druggists on its merit
and it should help you. No other kidney
medicine has so many friends.
Be sure to get Swamp-Root and start
treatment at once.
However, if you wish first to test this
great preparation send ten cents to DR..
Kilmer l. Co., Binghamton, N. Y, for
sample bottle. When writing be sure and
mention this paper.-Adv.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
FARM INVENTORY
HELPS BUSINESS
Enables Farmer to Determine
Whether He Is Going or
Coming Financially.
ANSWER TO MANY QUESTIONS
Complete List Of Assets and liabtii-
ties Each Year Tells Land Owner
Just How Much Increase or
Decrease Has Been.

What is the net worth of your farm
business? Is it more or less than one
would imagine from casual inspec-
ton of your farm? Do you know for
sure whether you are going or coming
in financial standing?
Question Not Easily Answered..
These are important questions to
the farmer and questions that are not
SO easily answered as would at first
appear. Farming is an intricate busi-
ness and one in which returns from
investment are sometimes long de-
layed, so that progress cannot be ac-
curately measured by the amount of
money taken in in a given time. Some
times cash income may be almost
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
Bad Stomach
Sends Her to Bed
for 10 Months
Eafonsc Gets Her Upg

"Over a year ago." says Mrs. Dora
Williams, 81 took to bed and for l0
months did not think l would live.
Eaattonic helped me so much I am now
I'D and able to work. I recommend it
highly for stomach trouble"
Eatonic helps people to get well by
taking up and carrying out the excess
acidity and gases that put the stomach
out of order. If you have indigestion,
sourness, heartburn, belching, food re-
peating, or other stomach distress,
take an Eatonic after each meal. Big
box costs only a trifie with your. drug
gist's guarantee.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
ASPIRIN
Name "Bayer" on Genuine

Warning! Unless you see the name
"Bayer" on package or On tablets you
are not getting genuine Aspirin pre-
scribed by physicians for twenty-one
years and proved safe by millions.
Take Aspirin only as told in the Bayer
package for Colds, Headache, Neural
gia, Rheumatism, .Earache, Toothache,
Lumbago and for Pain. Handy tin
boxes of twelve Bayer Tablets Of AS
pirip cost few cents. Druggists alse
sell larger packages. Aspirin is the
trade mark of Bayer Manufacture of
Monoaceticacidester Of Salicycacid.-
Adv
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
EASY TO WINTER FALL PIGS
Where Farmer Is Properly Equipped
He Can Raise Young Animals
Without Difficulty.

More fall pigs are being raised now
adays than was the case few years
ago. This Is due largely to the fact
that grain is relatively high-priced.
When man is properly equipped for
taking care Of fall pigs through the
winter season he can raise them about
as cheaply as he can spring pigs and
he gets more out of his SOW by breed
ing her twice year than only once.
1t is not difficult to winter fall pigs
if one gives the matter proper atten-
ton.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
WOODLANDS AID FARMSTEAD
Trees Scattered About Have Place In
Management of Farm and De-
veIopment of Community.

A farm without some woods is less
attractive as a place to live and usu-
ally less valuable than one with at
least q little woodland and some for
est trees scattered about. Thus wood
lands have a place both in the man.
agement of the farm and in the devel-
opment of the community.
The Prince George's enquirer and southern Maryland advertiser., 1921-01-28
EXERCISE FOR SOWS NEEDED
Feed for Animals Should Be Scattered
Around Floor to Compel Them
to Hustle.

Sows due to farrow In April or May
ought to have some bulky feed. Prof.
J. FL. Sheperd of the North Dakota Ag-
ricultural college reports that the
herdsman at the agricultural college
feeds pound to pound and a quar-
ter of grain per 100 pounds weight Of
SOW and a little alfalfa hay to give
plenty of bulk Ee also advises max