Evening star., 1921-12-19
TREATY DENOUNCED
BY De VALERA, Who
DRAWS NEW PACT
Disclosures Show Leader Of
fered Own Terms at Dali
Secret Session.
is INTENSE
DURING PUBLIC DEBATE
Every One With Scrap of Honor
Is Going to Stand by Agree
ment." Griffith Declares.

, BY the Associated Press.
! DUBLIN. December 18.-ire-
/ land. under the status granted her
| by the pending agreement. would
| have the same right as Canada to
send an Ambassador to Washine-
ton, declared Michael Collins, Sinn
Fefn finance minister, In arguing
for ratification Of the AnglO-Irish
treaty before the public session OF
the dali eireann this afternoon.
By the Associated Press.
DUBLIN, December 19.-The dali
| eireann, which met shortly before
noon today and began consideration
Of motions for and against rathca-
ton of the Anglo-Irish treaty. ad-
| iourned at ] o'clock until $3.50 pm
There was every indication that the
!spccchmaking would continue through
! tome rrow.
| An interesting feature of the hrst
session was the disclosure that Id
mon De Valera, the republican pres'-
dent, had submitted to last weeks
private meeting of the dali an alter
native proposal to the agreement
/
lad done this in an effort to secure
unanimity in the dali.
Intense Excitement Prevails.
The fight of Arthur Griffith for rat
! ification of the treaty and mat OF
Eamonn De Valera for rejection were
the outstanding features of the morn
ing debate. with Michael Collins yet
| to be heard.
Intense excitement prevailed
throughout the session and the speak
ers' voices were deep with feeling.
1t was difficult to judge the senu-
ment of the dali toward the issue ID!
! the volume of applause given the va
rious members who spoke IL ap-
pears to be fairly evenly divldeu as
between Griffith and De Valera.
The dali eireann began at ll:zi
o'clock this morning its public ses-
sion for consideration of the treaty
Every seat in the hall was taken
when the speaker, Prof. John Mac
Neill. called the meeting to ordsa; s
Adoption of the treaty was moved
by Arthur Griffith, foreign minister
in the dali cabinet and signer OF the
London agreement
"Wnnt Substance, Not Shadows.
tOnlmdnudnl lhSNcoi VI
lI,onrford. one of the best known of
the Irish republican army leaders.
seconded the Griffith motion. saying:
The Irish people want substance
not shadows.
Immediately after the meeting be-
gan argument arose as TO Whelner
the document introduced by Eamonn
De Valera at the private meeting Oh
the dali last week should be intro
duced at the public session
Grtfith Urges Ratification.
Sneaker MacNeill said Mr.. De Valera
had requested that the document be
regarded as confidential until he put
forward his own proposal in the pup
f,ic session. Arthur Griffith and
Michael Collins protested against a
course which they declared would re-
suit in keeping from the Irish people
what such an alternative proposal
meant.
After some heated discussion the
speaker said he could not allow de-
date on this point. and Mr.. Griffith
then moved the ratification of the
treaty.
Did Not Demand Recognition.
once ulu W SNos IA
ton of the Irish republic. knowing it
would have been impossible to secure
it," he said.
Mr. Griffith then dilated on the ad-
yantages the treaty would bring P
Ireland. He read letter which had
been received from Prime Minister
Lloyd George early in the negotia-
tions saying the government pro-
posed making Ireland coequal with
the other British dominions and TO
secure for Ireland place in the
league of nations. The letter also
promised the withdrawal of the
naval and military forces from Ire
land when the agreement was ratified.
MIR. Griffith said the oath of al
legiance agreed upon was one which
any IriShman can take with honor.
Mr.. Griffith said the point in dispute
was with regard to the recognition OF
the king. Those on the other side were
prepared to recognize the king as head
of the British commonwealth. The al
tentative proposals to the treaty meant
that ireland would be half in and half
out of the British empire, whereas un-
der the treaty the Irish would go in
with heads up. This was the main dif-
ference, and he would not sacrifice a
single young Irishman for It.
Bound by Honor to Treaty.
Mr.. Griffith said this was the first
treaty signed between England and Ire
land as equals since the year 1172, and
Il recognized the Irish Free State, the
Irish army and Irish control OF the
purse. He protested against any repre-
sentation that the opponents OF the
treaty were standing by her republic.
Mr.. Griffith said If the treaty were re-
jected and Ireland went to war again
she would be fighting against the world.
He declared the Irish plenipotentiaries
went to London to perform as difficult
a task as could be placed on the shoul-
lders of man. (Cheers.) Other men were
asked to go TO London, but they had
refused.
I'VE went" he continued. "and
brought back a treaty which safeguards
the interests of Ireland-by that treaty
I'm going to stand, and every one be-
hind us with a scrap Of honor is going
to stand by it."
He concluded by urging the dali to
lratify his resolution and the Irish people
everywhere to confirm II. s
Hearty applause was given him as he
resumed his seat.
De Valera Flags Treaty.
President De Valera then rose to
move the rejection of the treaty.
'I am against this treaty because
lit will not end the conflict between
Great Britain and Ireland" he de-
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