New-York tribune., 1921-11-05
Lloyd George
To Urge Unity
i Plan on Ulster
Peace Would Bring Prestige
10 Northern Parliament
and Reduce Income Tax.
Arguments in Reserve
Belfast Decision ON Way
Craig's Attitude at Meet
(. ing To-day or on Monday
May Decide Negotiations
! From Tas Trsou~e's guropeun sareaa

Sopyrignt, lS1ls New York tribune mo.
LONDON, Nov. 4.Wllst stand Ulster
viii take toward the proposed plebiscite
in Tyrone and Formanagh to furnish
the basis of a readjustment OF govern
ment there on the basis of self-determ-
ition was discussed by the northern
Cabinet at meeting held in Belfast
this. morning. The suggestion that
Ulster agree to unified Ireland rs q
basis of peace also was reviewed.
Sir James Craig, the Ulster Premier,
whe has been summoned to London to
discuss these questions with Lloyd
George, took with him the opinions OF
mis- advisers. As viewed here the en-
tire. hope OF settlement centers around
the attitude OF Ulster. II Lloyd George
finds Sir James conciliatory. when they
meet tomorrow here, or possibly Mon
da-i, there is every expectation that
scnns basis OF peace can be found. 1t
IS certain that the British Prime Min
;ster will present fully to Sir James
the Sim Fein arguments, and will seek
Ia win some concessions toward mu-
tual understanding. Premier Lloyd
George is going to be at Chequers
Court over the week end and Sir James
viii be visiting his son at Eton and In
consequence the exact time OF tncir
meeting has not yet been fixed.
Sim Fein Attitude Helpful
The Sim Fein delegates have made
it clear to Lloyd George that they are
ready to concede to Ulster the widest
measure of autonomy If the north VIII
agree to CONC In on a united ireland.
They are even ready to let Sir James
and his supporters decide what the
limits Of autonomous Ulster should be
the whole Of the six counties now
raw area to be defined by plebiscite.
Thair only stipulation would be that
rsaiprocal guarantees be given for the
protection Of Catholic and Protestant
luinorities in different districts.
There is no doubt that Lloyd George
has been impressed by the reasonable
ness of the attitude Of the Sim Fein
delegates and that he will urge Sir
James strongly in the interests OF
yeacc to agree to partnership IN Ire"
land on a basis that will provide safe
guards for both sides.
Premier Lloyd George has two argu-
ments which he could use on Sir James.
One of these is that the Northern Par
peace would assure its workability. The
other, which ought to appeal to Bel
fast business men, is that il Ulster
we're part of a united Ireland the ma
tional income tax would be only about
q third Of the present levy.
There will be no further meetings
nctween the government peace dele
gates and the Sim Fein envoys until
after Mr.. Lloyd George has had chance
to talk with Sir James. Then period
will come in which opinions will be
exchanged before the Ulster Premier
Is formally called into tho discussions.
a settlement will be rapid, but the Sim
Feiners at least are more optimistic
than they have been at any other time
in the negotiations.
!, LONDON, Nov. (By The Assoei-
Ated Press).-Desmond Fitzgerald, Of
the Sim Fein party, in statement
made to-day. denied reports published
IN London newspapers relative to
points OH which an agreement is said
to have been reached by the conferees.
He declared untrue rumors that the
Sim Feiners had accepted the princi-
pie of dominion status and British con-
troll of Irish ports, and had agreed to
contribute from the Irish treasury to
che imperial treasury. He refused to
disclose any points which have been
agreed upon thus far, but it is said in
other Irish quarters that the determi-
nation of the Sim Feiners not to ac-
eept the principle of allegiance to the
British crown remains unshaken.
. It is intimated in these quarters,
however, that formula has been
agreed on, bridging that difficulty,
whereby Ireland would not be desig-
mated as British dominion but as
IN associate nation" 1t is further
declared that solution OF the Ulster
rtoblem must come, if it comes at all,
Through listers recognition Of the
principle of unity in Ireland
Bonar Law Working for Peace
! A. Bonar Law, one of the most prom
4nent members of the Unionist party
and former government leader in the
House of Commons, conferred with
Premier Lloyd George last night, and
ssitaking hand in the effort to reach
3 settlement of the Irish question.
.sThe Daily Mail" said to-day that
Bonar Law, if necessary,s would bring
independent influence to bear upon
the extreme Unionists with the view to
achieving complete agreement.
& 1t developed to-day that the report
made public yesterday from Belfast
to the effect that sll the Sim Fein
prisoners in the Ballykiular intern
ment camp near that city. numbering
about l,7o0, had been released was
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