Evening star., 1921-12-21
DUFFY Is OPPOSED
TO VOTE BY PEOPLE
ON IRISH TREATY
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be flung into war upon such gossamer
issues and differences is a criminal
proposition. Sanity must prevail"
George Gavan Duffy's speech tndi-
Gated that he assumed the treaty
would be ratified. He said it would be
the duty of the trainers Of the Irish
king at considerable distance from
the Irish people" adding:
Pleads for Ratification.
"The king symbolizes in himself
the just anger of the Irish people
for $50 years.
MY heart is with those opposing
it. but my reason is against them."
he exclaimed.
The treaty, he declared. must be
ratified in the interests of the people
of Ireland. Duffy said he agreed
with Lord Grey that no peace with
Ireland was possible except on equal
terms, but before the treaty could
be rejected some possible alternative
should be produced, and he saw none.
Declaring his reason was against
those who opposed the treaty, al
though his heart was with them, he
said a solid basis of principle was
by the consent of the governed, and
that the people were entitled to have
the treaty ratified.
"The treaty should be ratified under
protest. but ratify it you must" he
declared.
Deputy James ]. Walsh. who spoke
next, said the report printed in news
M n
asked members Of the dali not to
describe Mr.. De Valera as president"
was unfounded.
Speaker John MacNeill confirmed
the member.
Mr.. Walsh read a letter from Mrs.
late lord mayor Of Cork, who died in
Brixton prison last year, in which the
writer declared that acceptance of
the treaty would be a great mistake
and "a great triumph for the enemy"
Collins Leaps to Feet.
Michael Collins jumped up at this
and said:
"Out of our great respect for the
dead we have refrained from reading
letters We have received from rel
atitss of the dead but we have
them"
Arthur Griffith also intervened to
say that the supporters of the treaty
had many letters from women whose
husbands were niIisd during the
prof. Stockley of Cork University,
formerly OF Canada. opposed the
treaty in an impassioned speech. He
Englishman in him was shamed by
the British conduct regarding the
treaty revealed by George Gavan
Duffy.
Deputy whelan of Galway support
ed the treaty say;ng he agrssdb gren%bi;nan M..
doctrinaire (referring to DR.. Nc
Carten's speech yesterday. in which
ha declared the republic had been
abandoned in Dublin before the dele
gates crossed to London). but that he
felt bound to deliver the country
from chaos.
Deputy Whelan was declaiming on
the Importance Of the control of
education accorded by the treaty when
Mr.. De Valera tartly interrupted him
with the words:
"Education based on dishonor! You
will take an oath you don't mean to
keep"
Grimth Raps De Valera.
Arthur Griffith protested against
what he said were these constant
Interruptions" of speakers favoring
the treaty, while his side Interrupted
nobody.
Deputy Whelan, proceeding. said
Ireland would have the same right
as Canada TO declare independence.
David Kent of East Cork, one of
whose brothers was executed in 1915.
and another sentenced to penal servi-
tude, opposed the treaty. He said that
under it Mr. De Valera, who had been
freely elected president of the republic,
would have to make way for some Eng
lish lord as governor general. They
could .1ave no idea what Irish taxation
would be, he added, because they did
not know what part Of the British debt
they might be compelled to pay under
the arbitration clause.
Eamon ]. Duggan. in explaining the
circumstances in which he signed the
treaty, said he was convinced he had
acted in accordance with the wishes of
the people who hac elected him. He
asked what the plenipotentiaries were
sent to London for, Were they sent to
ask for recognition of the Irish republic
or to compromise the question. he in
quired. There was no alternative.
Speaker Interrupted.
There is" interjected Mr.. De Valera.
II think know what the president
means" rejoined Duggan. He means
external association. which, if it means
anything, is that we were to ask for
recognition as republic preparatory to
making an alliance"
To this Mr.. De Valera cried, "Hear!
heart"
'Then you say you sent us to ask
for recognition of the Irish republic"
Duggan returned. He argued that this
view was inconsistent with the his
tory of the negotiations. They had
not brought back a bag full of
sample treaties from which they
could choose, he pointed out. They
must take this treaty or leave it, and
he urged it's advantages.
The Irish army, for one thing, was
not obliged to take the oath of al
legiance to the king. he declared. If.
under the treaty, the Irish people did
not achieve freedom it will be their
own fault, not that of the treaty.
Duggan recalled to his comrades in
the fight his days in Jail, witnessing
the erection of scaffolds for his fell
low prisoners, and said the treaty
was not due to the plenipotentiaries,
but was the fruit of ally that sacrifice.
.pE VALERA BUBBLE PRIcKED'
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