Arizona republican., 1921-01-31
WILLING TO
 TRADE RUSS LIBERTY
 FOR A M ERICAN JAIL
BY Milton Rronner

LONDON, Jan. 30--'Emma Goldman told me she would rather spend 10 years in an American jail than five years in so-called free Russia
 This comes from Morris Schwartz of Oakland, Cal. who went to Russia to study conditions with a view to report ing them to the American Socialist party. He is homeward bound, a de- cided anti bolshevik.
 Schwartz and his wife were impris- oned for several months because he voiced sentiments not to the Liking of 1 the bolshevik government. Mrs. 1 Schwartz died at Reval, Dec. 20 as result of hardships.
 1 Schwartz told of dining with Emma | Goldman and Alexander Rarkman. who were deported from America for pro- | bolshevik activities, in their hotel
 Are you sure you are quoting Miss 1 Goldman correctly" I asked Schwartz,
 Positive" answered Schwartz. "I have known her for a long time and she spoke quite freely with me.
 Wish to Return
 T also talked with many other anar- chists who were deperted by America and all wished they were back in the United States.
 Some still insisted they would like to try an experiment of real anarchism or communism, but they complained
 Russia is a land of Leninism and
 Trotzkyism, where few are masters and
 millions are subjects
 Just what sort of & government has
 Russia, then?" I inquired.
 "A monstrous tyranny. ruled by those on top. who force everybody else into . the army or the workshops"
 How is the food supply?' . Well. Miss Goldman and Berkmal seemed well fed. Each draws tw,
 pounds of bread and two meals a da.
 and are given their clothing. This because they are working as propa ! gandists. They travel about telling tn |, people why they should support tn \ soviets.
 But while the soviets and thei
 agents get the best. the masses get tn 1 worst. Look"
 Three Grades of Soap Schwartz drew from his grip thre ' samples of soap. One was of goo Cuality-the soap of the commissar, \ One was of mediocre quality-the soa lof the commissars' assistants Tn \ third was not worthy of the name C II soap-it was for the common people. How did you find Trotsky and Lc
 nin?" I asked.
 "Trotzky and others who had live III Nue Ol1AcQ states SetIti III dS DIA found ignorance of true American cor m ditions as were Lenin and others wl i5 had never seen the United States. e Usually their first question wa te whether Eugene Y. Debs was still T. prison. Then they would ask whe .d America was going Red. ID When l told them the America
 wCrkmen were neither communists n' D. anarchists, but solid citizens and sui )y porters of the republic, they wouldn as believe me.
 ne Trotzky's Pet PeeVe H. "Trotzky has vast power and didu be like 1t when I reminded him Of |
 days of soapbox agitation in Ne ad York.
 ad Neither Trotzky or the others e,
 pressed hate of Americans IL ne likely that the thing uppermost in the of minds is that some day they mig n have to ask America for food. machi'
 cry and clothing.
 li They hate Hungary and Poland. he "The late John Reed had a singul st power in Russia. He was an intima be friend of TrotzNy and Lenin and | he request could save a mans life wh
 all other appeals failed. no By order of the soviets, when Re a d.ed g. tremendous funeral was h. m and all Moscow papers devoted { i'll first page to his eulogy."