New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1921-08-12
Allies Break
Again ON New
Silesia Line

people and allow the respons ibility for
the consequences to rest with that
body.
Lloyd George suggested that they con
tinue their private conversations and
try to find common ground leading to
an agreement. though if this was i'm
possible in a brief time, the best thing
for him to do would be to go back
to England
Following the breakfast the pren1iers
and NJ. Loucher sought the counsel Of
Lord Curzon in conversations con-
t,nulng until shortly before noon, when
all departed for Rambouilet.
French Define Their Limit
1t IS understood BRAND told the
brltIsh representatives that the limit
OF french concessions must be Beu-
then, kattowitz, Koenigshuette. Weels
and zabrze for Poland, though he was
wiling to allocate Gleiwitz to Ger
many, with the disposition Of con-
unguous territory to be decided bv the
COMMISSION of technical experts, whicn
was still at work on suggestions which
1t had been unable to submit to the
Council.
Lloyd Georges plan would give Po-
land undisputed possession of the
provinces OF Rybnik and Pless, along
with only small bite of the industrial
triangle
The limit Of Brands concessions
unless backed by political supporters
who are willing to defy the political
enemies of the ministry in October is
understood to be boundary somewhat
similar to the line suggested by Court
S1orza, OF Italy, though leaving "a
brze subject TO further negotiations,
possibly splitting up the town between
the Germans and Poles.
The conversations of Premier Br-
ana with President Millerand and sew
eral OF his ministers to day were un-
derstood to have emphasized his f rm
determination 10 oppose the British
and German demands on the ground
that France never would support this
The optimism on both sides in the
last three days, however, lends
strength to the feeling that neither
side is prepared to break the Franco
British entente because of the Silesian
issue Brands speech of Tuesday was
recalled, in which he said in effect
What is Upper Silesia compared to
Franco British friendship? %
Harvey May Be Arbiter
Some observers tonight went so far
as to suggest that both Premiers were
playing to their respective political
galleries and that after the affair had
reached an ostens ible deadlock would
call in either Ambassador Harvey or
the Italians to act as arbiter. Such 4
move, it was agreed, would trans fer
the onus of deciding either for or
against the Germans and the Poles
outside the constituencies of both
Premiers, and the dissatisfied victim 49,
either Poland or Germany~co be
allowed harml essly to bay at the dis
tant moon.
Unofticially it was suggested in
many quarters that il matters develop
to such a pass Ambassador Harvey
would be acceptable as referee-even
Of Italy, who has European troubles OF
his own.
The French Cabinet, which has been
summoned to meet early tomorrow
probably will consider the situation
before the departure of Lloyd George
Case Laid Before Milierand
It is understood that Lloyd George
and BRAND both outlined their re-
spective positions before President
Milerand this afternoon. From TIE
Italians it was learned tonight that
they accepted the British viewpoint. It
was emphasize that the departure "f
Lloyd George must in no way be con-
sdered as sign of q break IN the
Anglo-Frencn entente.
Lord Curzon, the British Foreign
Secretary, remains, ready to carry on
the British side of the discussions on
matters other than Upper Silesia.
The fight over the partition Of Upper
Silesia, it is realized here, is not due
to any desire by England to uphold
Germany's hand against France, but to
the British policy OF maintaining trade
relations with the Reich. On the other
hand, the French have considered the
Germany OF the future and the impor-
lance of her acquisition of the indus
trial means Of forging weapons of
war.
BRAND Urged To Be Firm
The Temps, in leading editorial to-
day, advised BRAND not to yield, saying
that tomorrow would show whether II
was possible to arrive at just solu-
ton Of the question of Upper Silesia.
I'VE persist in thinking a solution is
realizable and heartily desire it the
Temps said. "If, however it is lmpos-
sible, it would be better TO leave the
question open than to come to an ar
rangement that would be Unacceptable e
to the French conscience. There would
be nothing left but openly to explain
the cause OF the differences, ana tneN
it would be seen that France was not
responsible.
According to the unanimous opinion
of the experts. the Temps continues
the district forming the industrial zone
had A plebscite vota Of $4,000, OF
which 100000 voted to remain with
! Germany and 100000 to be attached IL
Poland. The German majority is ex-
tremely weak it continues, and should
not justify the total attribution of the
industrial region to Germany. More
over, the figures include the emigrant
votes which. if excluded, would f-rther
diminish the German figures
L. S. Envoy Sees Lloyd George
PARIS, Aug II (By The Associated
Press).-The greatest uncertainty sur
rounds the reported visit Of the Aneri-
can Ambassador, MIR. Harvey, to Mr.
Lloyd George this evening shortly after
the arrival of the Italian delegation
The Am bassador Is supposed to have
arrived and departed with the utmost
secrecy.
Repeated efforts at the hotel wher.
the AMBASSADOR Is staying to confirm
the visit either through M Harvey
or a member of his staff, brought the
information from the hotel employees
that none Of the Ambassadors party
would reply to telephone calls.