The New York herald., 1921-09-05
De Valera's Note to Lloyd
George Repeats Previous
Refusal to Accept Plan
Offered by Britain.
MAKES NEW PROPOSAL
Would Arbitrate Ireland's
Free Status and Legality
of It's Disputed Union
With the Empire.
CABINET SITS WEDNESDAY
Dublin Thinks Sinn Feie, ,if
Allowed to Act Unhampered,
Might Grant Allegiance
of Irish to Crown.
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Copyright. 1921, 5v THE NEW YoRK HERALD.
New York Herald Bureau,
Londoa. sept. 4.
The text Of the reply of Eamon de
Valera, Irish republican leader, to
the note by the British Prime Minis
ter, Mr.. Lloyd George, of August "a
was made public to-day and the Irish
negotiations have at last come down
to brass tacks. The Sim Fein has
come through with q concrete pro-
posal which. stripped, demands inn
plicit recognition Of the present Irish
Governments republic. But 1t
does not mean that the republic viii
remain outside the empire.
The Sim Fein is perfectly willing
to instruct plenipotentiaries which
Mr.. de Valera proposes to send TO
confer with Premier Lloyd George, to
agree to practically all the six condi-
tions the Premier laid down I'm the
course of the last exchange of notes
to govern the mutual relationship Of
the two islands
But according to the Irish point OF
view those conditions must come as
free grant of theirs and not az
an imposition by England. ONCE
| that principle Is admitted-Mrc de
| Valera calls II government by con-
sent of the governed way TO
settlement will be wide open Thus
guaranteed, there is wide belief in
| Dublin that the Sim Fein will give
| allegiance to the Grown.
| Burden Put on Lloyd George.
| The burden now has been directly
| passed to Mr.. Lloyd George and 1t Is
| admitted here tonight that with his
] political life In his hands he will go
far TO overcome the undoubtedly seri-
Gus domestic difficulties which would
confront even an implied and tenn
porary recognition of sovereign Ire
land. Many phrases of his previous
notes make the possibility of this
seem doubtful. But II is pointed out
that Mr.. Lloyd George need not say
anything about IL now. II he merely
reasserts his refusal to consider any
Ireland outside the empire and then
asks that the plenipotentiaries be
sent the apparently widely divergent
principles of both sides may be met.
The second Of Mr. de Ealera's two
paragraphs outlining the present
status is admittedly one over which
the Cabinet, If not Mr. Lloyd George
himself, may stick. That paragraph
reads:
Great Britain acts as though Ire
land were bound to her by contract
of union that forbids separation The
circumstances OF the supposed con-
tract are notorious. yet on the theory
Of its validity the British Government
and Parliament claimed TO rule and
egislate for Ireland even to the point
OF partitioning Irish territory against
the win OF the Irish people and killing
5, or casting into prison every Irish ciu-
zen who refuses allegiance"
That not only comes close 70 rais-
ing an explicit question OF Irish SOW
creignty but raises the Ulster ques-
ton. Those who still continue 10 be
hopeful that there Is "A way out, how
ever. base, their optimism largely oi
the fact that Mr.. Lloyd George and MI
dc Valera could not have talked d
long AS they did in Downing Stree
last month without coming TO thest
same brass tacks that are now re 4
vealed to the public gaze. and tha
they must have discovered a way e.
negotiate around them or they woulo
not have continued the negotiations
Yelled Hint In Threat OF Force.
The raising OF the question of the
threat OF British force by Mr.. dc Nss
lera also Is considered serious. II
some quarters this Is considered "a
involve demand. the FIRST 10 be madt
by the proposed plenipotentiaIies. that
tho British forces be withdrawn front
ireland. Mr. Lloyd George Is sure a
refuse this, but the demand has mol
yet been made. and once tho plenipoi
tentlaries get together II is considered
y l0AhtA SNAt N'f' iHAA llttAH'N TtA1 VII
assume the burden or breaking the ne,
go,iations FOR any minor point. I'm
doubtcdly. some OF the members OF thu
Cabinet who win be hurrving 70 IN
verness. near which tho Premier y
pasling his vacation. 10 the next day
or .fwo will demand thatNthe VI
tfng be broken OF and thae 4,
cvmmandcr OF the British 10,