The New York herald., 1921-10-29

Irish believe the debate will strengthen.
rather than weaken. NJ. Lloyd Georges
hand as negotiator. for the motion foi
the debate, which was moved by CO..
John Gretton Coalition Unicnist), chas
lenges not the discretion or the ability
with which Mr.. Lloyd George Is conduct
ing affairs, but challenges his right 10
carry on any negotiations whatever, and
as this is in diametric opposition TO the
efforts for peaec. It will repel. rather
than invoke support of the other PARTIES
in the House of Commons for the Tories.
Hence the hub OF Irish interest cen
tres on the debate on Monday. for
from 1t MIR. Lloyd George will evolve his
final plans and definitely decide whether
or not he Is going to Washington.
In the interim OF SUSPENDED ;,ctivi
ties. the Prime Minister Is passing the
Weekend in the country, and the Irish
Delegates are remaining in London
Rumors prevalent here tonight were
that the Sim Fein delegates Intended
going to Dublin. from whence they
would send forth a trumpet call to All
IrelLnd to be ready. but at the request
of Mr.. Griffiths all delegates remained
in London
LONDON Oct 2S (Associated Press) -
Formal meetings of the Irish conference
and of the committee entrusted with
the task of finding formula for further
negotiations between the parties tenn
porarily are in allegiance until after
Mondays debate on the negotiations in
the House OF Commons. but informal
negotiations. through certain channels,
will continue. and week end meetings OF
the British representatives are likely 10
be held at Chequers Court, where Pre-
7 10 m week
end.
Sim Fein followers are ready to ac-
cept reports that the Premier has been
faced with trouble in his own party and
that he thinks a debate in the House
would be the best way in obtaining FOR
himself a certain majority. Ulster is
understood to present his chief difficulty.
since he has pledged himself not to re-
duce the Importance OF the position OF
the Northern Parliament. He has been
pressed from the start by the Sim Fein
delegates to rip up the home rule act
and to reopen the Ulster question.
On the other hand, the Premier is
urged by many Unionists to permit the
Northern Parliament to function. AL
though opened formally by King George.
IL still has no real power and, lacking
funds II cannot exercise most of the
powers granted It, If Mr.. Lloyd George
assents to facilitating the powers OF the
Northern Parliament he risks break
in the negotiations with Sim Fem. Yet
there Is powerful feeling In hfs own
party in favor Of leaving Ulster what
she has.
Ulstcrites May Revolt.
Should the Prime Minister In his
speech Monday indicate any yielding TO
the Sim Fein demands concerning Ul-
ster, the letter's representatives have
made it known that they will take a
hostile attitude. The Attorney General
for Ireland, Thomas Brown. is an Ulster
member, and it is believed he would re-
sign from the Ministry in protest.
In his speech, the Premier will ask
the House Of Commons for a mandate
to continue the negotiations. and the be-
lief Is EXPRESSED by newspapers here
that the Government will receive a big
majority. Mr.. Lloyd George received
congratulations from the Liberal press
for "grasping the nettle Of the hard shell
Unionist opposition. 1t was said the
Prime Minister had "by calling their
bluff. knocked the wind out of the
Unionists."
Unonist Ministers were declared to
have been greatly embarrassed by this
situation, and the Times asserted q
responsible member Of the Government
said yesterday it was becoming impos-
sible to carry on Political correspon-
dents generally predict important de-
velopments at the annual conference OF
the Unionist party to be held in Liver
pool next week. They assert the party
may split, and that there may be
formed an independent Conservative
party. of which 1t is hinted A. Bonar
Law, former Government leader in the
House OF Commons, may become the
head. He will return to active politics
at the next session of Parliament. The
Times said to-day that. even in the event
of split in the party, the majority OF
! Unionists would still follow Lloyd
George. who. retaining the loyalty Of the
coalition Liberals, would thus become
the chief Of a centre party.