The New York herald., 1921-10-16
GEN. LUDENDORFF
SEES new ALLIACNE
FavOrS Common Action
Against Soviet Russia by
Britain and U. S.
AMERICAS PART TO AID
Would Not Take Military
Share but Could Send
Efficient Supplies.
GERMANY WOULD JOIN
Has Little Confidence in Pro-
posals for Limitation Of
Armaments.
AMERICAS PART TO AID
GERMANY WOULD JOIN
Special Correspondence to THE New YORK
HERALD.
New York Herald Bureau.

Special Correspondence to THE New YoHH
HERALD.
New York Herald Bureau.
Berlin, Oct. 8.
Gen. Ludendorff thinks the future
Of Europe depends upon Germany's
finding a basis Of understanding with
France. Germany confronted by g
highly armed and organized French
army cannot hope in the future ia
race 1t on French battlefield. This
OASIS of understanding he sees in a
common enterprise In which also
America and Great Britain would take
part: An offensive to overthrow the
Soviet Government.
He seeks, as he himself outlined his
scheme for The New York HERALD
Americas financial and Industrial sup
port for such an undertaking. In dis
armament or limitation of armaments
Gen. Ludendorff has not much conf
dence. He sees, however, in Americas S
geographical position one which should
give no cause for anxiety to Americans
about ever being invaded.
Gen. Ludendorff lives with his wife
and stepdaughter officially in retire.
ment in small villa near Munich. He
keeps abreast of world politics through
extensive reading and contact with
military circles Of many countries. AT
present he is writing a series of tech
nical war studies.
Gen. Ludendorff, when I talked with
him at his Munich home, kept the con-
versation largely upon military subjects
did not mention newspapers. rarely pol
itics and then only within the limits
Of written answers he had already made
to my questions.
America Could Support Move.
Should in your opinion America
take part in the military operations
against Russia you propos I'd in
THE NEW YORK HERALD August 21 %
! asked.
81 doubt whether the United States
would send troops to intervene again in
European affairs" he answered. Amer
lea could not be expected to take an ac-
tive part in a military expedition against
Soviet Russia to free the Russian peo-
pie. am of the opinion. however. tina,
the United States could give such an un-
dertaking very considerable support
through shipping war supplies and roll
ing stock. This Is particularly important
owing to the fact that German wal
Industries have been entirely destroyed
through application of the peace treaty
Supplying foodstuffs from America tc
the expeditionary forces Is also impor-
tant. Nothing should be taken away
from the Russian people, instead supplies
should be given them. The expeditionary
army should not only have food supplies
for its own needs, but also to meet those
of the starving Russian people. Behind
the expeditionary army should come the
manufactured goods which the Russian
people so urgently need Railroads
should be put into operation. Urgent
needs for agricultural machinery should
BE- met Sufficiently large quantities could
hardly be collected without the help OF
the United States
Natives for Action.
Supposing the United States
should assume a considerable part
of the financial burden of such an
expedition, what political or mill
tary inducement would such an ex-
pedition have for the United
States?
I'm view of the fact that the Russian
people are unable to free themselves
from the tyranny which Is condemning
them to DEATH" Gen. Ludendorm con-
tinued, ''it Is primarily common hui
manity to help them. In addition to this
Americas interests are threefold. In
the first place the fall of the Soviet
Government would put an end to Boil
shevik propaganda and conspiracies the
world over. including the United states.
Apart from the offensive danger oi
Bolshevism Europe is going on the rocks
through the exclusion of Russian indus
try In my opinion this critical
economic situation could be relieved by
solving the Russian problem. Unless
this is done not only Europe but also
little by little trade with America would
cease. 1t is doubtful whether the out
side world without serious consequences
could face a European collapse. already
threatening through depreciated cur
rency.
Third, new Russian Government In
addition to meeting obligations assumed
through goods received, should give the
United States economic compensations.
This could also be advantageous for Rus
sia because the Russian people will not
for long time be in position them
selves to exploit their vast natural re-
sources, the wealth of which they need.
The Powers taking part in such an ex-
pedition would give common compen-
satlons guaranty to the United States.
These pledges would be determined by
treaty contract at the beginning of the
expedition. On the other hand do not
Gee any military compensations which
Russian Goyernmen could give the
United States in view of the fact hat
the two countries are so widely
separated and military conflict between
them so unlikely in the future"
In view of the fact that the Ger
man army has been dissolved would
II be possible to recruit sufficiently
large number of officers and men In
Germany? I asked.
Germany Would Take Part.
CAS- 1 have said from the beginning.
Gen. Ludendorff replied. German col
laboration would be conditional upon the
Allies recognizing us no longer as enc
mics but as associates. An agreement
should be concluded which would recog-
nize German interests in a way which
the entire German people could under
stand. At present the people see no
hope for the future. Were the German
people TO see through this aid to the
Russian people n way to improve their
own condition then I am convinced that
sufficient officers and men would rush
TO the coors. Forming volunteer units
would be especially feasible because
German workmen are increasingly con-
WINGED that through the most colossal
swindle in history the Russian worimon
have been condemned to slavery. They
would understand that such an expedi-
ton would bring freedom.
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