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The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1921-01-27
EXCITING CONTESTS IN BOTH HOUSES END
WITH PASSAGE OF MEASURE INCREASING THE
SALARIES OF ELECTED OFFICERS TO $4,000
BY J, r. REED,

| Special Dispatch ~ The Intclligencrr.
| Charlestor w Va, Jan. 2S.--In order
! that both houses of the legislature
, might TAX" the recess until March l6 ut
! tho appointed hour Of = o'clock the as
! SiStant serErauts-at-lrm OF both houses
were called into servic" today to ste
all clocks while the battle over the sal
! aries OF stat" officers continued. Fer
! two long hours thus afternoon members
| Of senate and house battIcd over the
! question.
| Time after time !: seemed that tho
: question had been settled, but each time
! ia" requisite number OF votes was miss
: .ur In the house where the principal
part Of the nsGr took place tn" mcu-
, bcrs Tough; and argued for votes try
ing I" ovcrcom" the lead given the or
! ponentS OF the salaries measure by the
absence Of thirteen members OF the
| house.
Only Six Votes Needed.
, Only six "n0' votes were required TO
| sion tn" proponents of the increase
! struggled to "ut III" opposition to i
number smaller than this. Al $50 after
! the CLOCKS had been stopped for thirty
| five minutes the vote stood q in favor.
| eight against and thirteen absent and
| not voting.
Delegate Charles Md"lburg &C Kan
awht county. jumped 10 his feet in time
! 10 call for a rrn-raiTutr -cccss before
IA" vote was announced. in an effort
; . hay" tho mcaSur" passed.
During the r"crss two members
! changed thr;" VOTES, ore going from yes
"a no. ani The ether voting N the af-
, :irnatir" after having been against the
! increase.
! NrClintic -. janawhn. tho house
| l"aLer. then $"ru',l The floor and AKA II,
! pleaded tltat Il 'i.">s 80 rIi,rn to save
, the Vnl". ''u IN, "rNt "ai' - order two
men, DNulry or lrr"," county. w.o WAS
f; paired with Dc!"ra'. liiilcupy OF Up
J shur. and NcI'h"rsnn &c Wood. both
! swung into line and AMID the cheers Of
! the entire house. the measure was de-
! clared passed.
The Senate Battle.
, Speaker T.. ". kcatley then asked Nc
! tIirt,c To take the measure to the SEN
at" where ~ that time chaos seemed
, /" hc n" paramount feature. For over
IN hour b"G"r" tn" delegate from Kama
! wha reported n" passage ot the bill
| through III" house whore the Stlarirc
! had bNrn cut TO $1,000 flat for all offi-
! C"rS, tho senate had boon rnccsSing and
! r"""nven!nE In order to keep In session
, Nine Of the senators were at the time
absent from the hall and II looked for
u few moments as though they could
not be found
! The hotels wer- called and within 4
! tow minutes the necessary number had
| been recalled and the night was once
| more on
| After n frw preliminary clashes the
! tcoattnued on Page Ten.)
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1921-01-27
ARN0RY FIRE
ACT Of PLOT TIERS

cis+sasaa o. Jsa. ade
land arays, oldest n,ilisasS S :
aon IN tho city, - homslsSs toAtt1O
for tho ssoond time In twsnty-atns
years. rirs, believed By Colonel L. ..
Connolly, commanAinE OFFICER, And d.
reetors of the orVAnjEation, 70 hAve
been started by radical piotters, de-
stroyed ths 9r1ys Armory carly to
day, entAiling loss sstmAtSd at
$500, 900.
Cleveland, O., Jan. 2e.-Tsn thous-
and rounds OF rtfls ammunition stor-
Cd In the basement OF tho Cleveland
6ray's armory exploded this morn
Ing when flames BWSpS through the
structure. Three f1rsnssn were over
come In the suffocattng smoke that
rolled through the big auditorium
and were rescued By their comrades
inst as the roof fell In The loss
Is estimated at $500, 1000, OF which
$4,000 was IN goTsr1msnt parAphsr
MALTA
The fire destroyed everything but thu
walls in the rear Of the historic ole
structure, which has housed everything
from prizc fights to national conyen
tions.
The records Of the famous Cleveland
Gray's were saved. The cause OF the
fire Is unknown.
The frcInen were driven back twice
by the explosion Of thousands Of rifle
ca rtridses.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1921-01-27
THE wXATHE1.

west vtPytnia-Fatr Thursday nad
friday; not much change in tsmper1-
-urs.
Ohio and Western PsnasylvaniR-Fair
thursday ana probably Friday; rising
scnperAtnso-
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DR.. Butlsr's Comment

7, should pc borne IN mind tha. tee
representatives Of n" t"it"d states ap-
.,pinted 10 attend cre Favana meeting
,cere Elihu Root. EOher' Eac"n. Robert
Lansing. leo 5. Row" and lanes B5ow2
scott. The comment "f NtcIGlas MI
~av Butler on :he Havana ptan ) a. f".-
"E'or,uaatsly. ~ the recommends tons
- Havana, .onceru:nS Internal 'on3t or
-;aizattcr. ahmp'.d by the american ir-
,itute OF International Law. aft-. r."
--eat war bad BEEN II u-oGre>S more
--oy ided a platform uNon which all Am
,.-lcan Soyrrnrrui~ aud '""nles car
sfand ERrreS"ntat'v" Jur.Sts from
many different American r-ruS'.rS unit
Il ~ formulating THIS 'mp-"SS:re dec
ration. II NAY now be offered 10 the
comics ~ Europe and ot Asa as Am
-.-lra'> positive contribution to the solu-
,,or y, ne problem Of providing Z form
- international co-operat!on which wi!
avoid ;hn creation Of up"r-Gorern
,,.nt and rest irterna I!nTal cooperation
mon rsSpec' ard reverence for !aw.
This is ~. paJa ~ progress TO which
ne traditions OF American foreign Noi-
~ point ard this is the path uiSn
<6ich tho government ot the Tinted
states may Usll invite other nations
speedily 10 enter.
Or ono thing the reader may feel GER
Tain. Tho emphasis N all Republicans
councils ts on the legal side OF !ntrCna-
.ional co-cpC ration rather than political
and the most that the Harding advisers
>eer willing 20 admit is some general
understanding along the lines OK the
., n,ous paragraph five ~ the Knox res
Clu.ion ma -nely pledE:nC that the United
StatrS WIN consult with other powers
~ any srnergercv arises threatening 10
disturb tho peace OF the whole world.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1921-01-27
LAST EDITION
CONVERSATIONS

ro.,ole Va, Jan. @0.--OficiaAs
o. IN. V!rsirian EaiiwaS ciS'''isH g. "
,,.w record when .or"m"'N"
,,,.t ,.rn, loaded r"a! E0no"''s
,.,,,to.niry o.enn tOI.s ~ COD. '''
v.,.,r,., to Norfolk unaid"d. l." 80
mi, ;-,r wis mad" in n.N" h"u'S I'"
r.,. minutes with four wa''F S'"P"'
T,r ru.,u. consumed t0.oGo S''!"hA
nf ua,cr Oh the way
Austin, Tex. Jan. 26...''oioH''
IIo,rv Watterson Of Louisville, N.Y.
,,,d,y declined al invitation TO a"
,I-,.s. o., ,n,nr session "f tho TeAa"
r,.,,.r,,ur,. giving his ~" as thH
-,,.,,n lie IS spending tn" winter ~
Gal,eston and In reply 10 the INVITA-
lion SAID he appreciated the h"""',
hu, ,ha, a. mau Of four score ana
ton voa-s'' must decline 10 make A"
address,.
1,.:,yl.uryh. Jan. @6..-Tr"p!l":ors ~
N,i,c,sport amusement houses m"l
,oday and decided TO aid IN" cam.
MAIN to feed starving ch''urcH VI
E,,rnt,,. Rux Office receipts between
the nours Of and 5:Sh u m. IA!
will pe contributed toward IA" AM
paign.
Iatrobc, Ia. Jan. .d.-ta" BArr"i;
Taror company plant a. Kingston WAS
r.nrrucd today after shutdown
.,,-,, last fail Two hundr'd work
,~s returned to their p"~'"
lohns;own. IA. Jan. @6.---T"o hui
.r,, .rd Cfty cases II whi'Rcy val
nod .I $1,000 and an automobile
trprk sore ,uufScat"d bN n" police
~ tho Scnnys.dc section here t"dty.
S.yc9 wen, said 10 i,e IN charge OF til"
,-u,.k i'm which tn" liquor naS hc!GS
tr,nsror,cL. wcr. arrested an! held
-, SIOO bail each for n hearing 80
morrow. Federal authorities were
u,'iIcJ - the scizur" and arrests.
I,uns,own. Pa, Jan q Shortly
after 4Oo pupils had been dismissed
late today from n" J"rum" public
school building at Jrrom". near hers,
tE, structure was destroyed hy IRE,
h,..,.t 20 have beer caused by an
ny"rh...tcd pirs II" @amN=e was
..'imatrH 1T 125Ouo.
Chicago. Jan 3s-ArE Anna N.
Cheee OF this city was today Granted
y decree Of divorce from liHl Chase,
former first bas.inan ht tn" IinCIn-
matt and New fOrk Nationni LeaFu.
baScDai cnIhs. VII" wa last heard
from in San lose. California.
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Hague Conference

=. so-ral'"J Recommendations OF
Eavana'' ;ruT.uc, iur lnv CAL OF the
rh.-d Hague corier"uC" 20 %r'ch e"ery
..,untry shall. be i'.v!trd "isd IN" ap-
poingruen, Of cUnnit'cc - meet Al
regular Intervals between III" Various
meetings uf tae conference themselves.
This ON nn.ttre shaii b" cGarged MN
he duty at procuring r1:!tico.:"n .:
conventions ana Cccl1rtIt!or>. Moreover
ere would nv created ~ :niernatIona!
.nrn,.l u <onC;' aitnE to consider. -
...sruSs and - report Upon such queS-
..orS = =. rOu-Justihab." character aS
nay he submitted 20 such council oy An
,grca;nrrt Of The ,rnw"rs for this rur-
,oSc." NSD I provides for me en-
10, mn II good Offices. mediation and
'r;suj'y composition for thc Scttlen1eGt
- di>rlr"S O" Z; non -IUSthoh hl" nature
rra Ea,aEa plan r',l.S '"- IA" n"G"t.1-
,.n,l Of = CONVENTION crc";;ng i JVG;ci:s.
r:nlOu Of the ia'tOns tp WhlCa Al clN!.-
Esd n.,;!ouS and S.!f-E"Eeru!ng doni&-
ous are 3I-t."s. ?.-dejos li.c good fa't'
- the contracting TartieS tU SlbnH
..rir lust nab d'~HuieS thar s. 60 ~ J
rslr differences invoking iaw or equity
TO = permanent court "i his union
whose decisions will bind 10. only The
H,tgatIne na:.ors. hut a,SV iAr'.cs %
.sS Great lon.
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Chicago. Jan 3s-Ars Anna ".
Chase OF this city was today Granted
y decree of divorce from lis. Chase,
former first baS.inan ht III" t1ncln-
matt and New fork National League
NaScpNii cirIhS. who va. last heard
from in San lose. California.
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l.2tr"bc. IA, Jan. u 4" l>A'T'''
pap"r company plant a N.HsS'"h Vas
-rurrucd today after "hu'o"Hh
sifTrr last fail. TWO huhor'" "o' ~
,-s returned to their p""'''
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
SENATOR WHO HELPED
DRAFT BILL ASSERTS
IT HAS Been FAILURE
Predicts New u. S. Policy
as Result of Strike
Threat.

Washington, Oct. 3-(United
Ss.)-COngress must either
''put teeth" into the Esch-Cum-
Minis railroad law or admit it is
n failure and repeal it. Senator
Cummins, Iowa, declared today.
Complete reshaping Of the
governments railroad poIicy,
probably at the next session OF
congress, as a result of the
strike threat of railroad en-
plOyeS and many attacks upon
the present law, was forecast
by Cummins, part author Of the
measure.
The demand for anti-strike legis-
lation will be renewed whether the
strike now being threatened occurs
or not, Cummins indicated. Pro-
visions penalizing railroads or 9TH
ers defying authority of the rail-
road labor board, limitation of the
interstate commerce commission s
control over rate making and re-
peal of the guaranteed returns to
the roads will all be sought. Cum
Minis said, when congress takes up
the Administrations $500, 100000
railroad relief bill.
Puts l. C.. c. to Work.
While chiefs of the railroad
brotherhods met today in Chicago
to determine their attitude towards
a nationwide strike, Cummins was
preparing to put the senate inter
state commerce commission TO
work on the problem.
He has summoned brotherhood
representative and officials of the
Pennsylvania railroad. The labor
leaders Will be asked to explain
why they refused to recognize the
{ labor boards authority to order
wage cuts; the Pennsylvania off,
Gals Will be questioned on their re-
fusal to obey the boards collective
bargaining orders.
Legislation designed to save the
existing law from complete demoli-
ton may grow out of the hearings
before the committee.
Would Restore State Control
Cummins also is preparing an
amendment to the law TO limit the
interstate commerce commission
rate control to interstate rates.
The As states are parties 70 a
suit now pending before the su-
preme court, attacking the COM
missions authority to control in
tra-state rates. In the event the
federal commission is upheld, the
law will be amended to restore to
the states their previous powers
over railroad rates, Cummins said.
The law also is under fire from
the agricultural bloc in congress,
which will demand repeal of the
guarantee as a means of forcing
freight rate reductions So long
as the guarantee remains thu
bloc's members contend, rates must
remain at their present high levels.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
AUTOSCOLLIDE;
four ARE HURT
One Woman Has Back Broken
When Car Driven by Decatur
Negro Upsets Second Car.

Danville, Ill, Oct 3.-Four per-
sons were injured, one perhaps IA
tally, Sunday at Martinton. Ill,
north of here on the Dixie highway,
when an automobile driven by
Walter Saunders was upset when
struck by another car driven by
George Lee, a negro of Decatur.
Mrs. Rose Barton of WestVille
suffered a broken back and is not
expected to live John Barton, heI
husband, suffered internal in
ternal injuries. Mrs. Martha Cab
railobicz suffered a broken shouI-
der and Walter Saunders was
slightly bruised. A 2 weeks old
child of Mrs. Barton escaped un-
injured.
Lee is said to have continued his
journey after the accident, but was
stopped by others and forced tC
return
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
CHOOSE GERMAN
ENVOY TOu. S.
DR.. Herms VIII Be Appointed
Ambassador to Washington
@Has Sensible Wife,

Berlin, Oct 3.-United Press.)-
DR.. Herms, German food minister,
will be appointed ambassador to
Washington, it was definitely stated
in majority circles here today.
His early resignation from the
cabinet was expected.
Considerable conflicting support
and opposition has been aroused by
the announcement
DR.. Herms is a member of the
Center party and is one of the few
prominent Germans, it was said
who would be acceptable at Wash
ington on their war records. He is
wealthy, speaks English and, one
paper said, has a sensible wife"
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
TAFT SMILE NOW
BEAMS OUT FROM
SUPREME BENCH

Washington. Oct. 3.-CUnited
Press. THE famous Taft smile
took its place on the dignified
bench OF the United States supreme
court today.
The judicial oath of Office was
administered to william Howard
Taft. chief justice of the United
States, shortly after the court re
convened, by Associate Justice
McKenna.
A distinguished assemblage of
official Washington was in the
court for the ceremony including
Attorney General Daugherty, for
mer Attorney General Palmer. Sen
ators Lodge and Borah and a score
of other congressman.
The whole ceremony was marked
by solemnity.
Taft opened his service on the
court by asking if there were any
motions for admission to the bar.
Attorney General Daugherty pre-
sented Solicitor General Beck, Miss
Mabel Willebrandt. assistant attor-
ney general. and others of his as
sistants. These are members of
your official household" Taft re-
marked with a smile.
The Taft smile then found Sen
ator Borah. He was recognized to
move the admission of a friend
The chief justice called other SEN
ators and congressman by name
as they rose to present various
a
broadly when some one moved the
admission of another man named
Taft
This is the greatest day of my
life." Taft said after the court Ses-
sion, when friends rushed up tc
congratulate him again.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
GIRL PUTS SELF
ON SALE; GETS
HUNDRED OFFERS

Joliet. Ill, Oct. 3.-Miss Cath
crime Peterson, 20-year-old girl.
who a month ago offered 10
marry a man for $4,000 in or
der to secure an education ana
pretty clothes, today annonn
ed il was question Of deciding
which man to take.
Miss Peterson. unable 70
achieve her desire By werking
as 3 clerk, bookkeeper, sales
woman or nurse, said her 100
replies came from switsAmen,
Insurance agents. clerks. bRsi-
ness men and day laborers.
They are all gentlemen, she
said, and added that one man
whom she described as "a little
old", had offered $1,000
Because she hasn't any mon
ey left, she will decide this
week, she said.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
NAVAL RESERVE
ASKS RECRUITS
Secretary Denby Issues Call for
Volunteers in Sixth Glass
Serve in Peace Without Pay.

Washington. Oct. 3.-Secretary
DENLY today issued a call for vOlun-
teers in the naval reserve forces
reduced from 200, 900 to barely 5000
by his recent order disenrolling all
members of four reserve classes not
on active duty. Mr.. DENLY In let
ter sent to each reservist, explained
that the departments action was
made necessary by lack of appro-
priations, and pointed out the op-
pcrtunity of joining the sixth class
the volunteer reserYe-Which
serves without pay in peace time.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
HASFOUR WIVES
BUT NO DIVORCE

Peoria, ILL.,, Oct 3-Newton Jas
per Osborn. alias Jasper Smith, al
legged bigamist. was today held to
await the action of the grand jury
on a charge preferred by Mrs. Alma
Blair Smith. who asserts she is the
fourth woman Osborn has married
without the formality of obtaining
a divorce from any of them.
Chief witness against Osborn was
his son. Carl Osborn, Spring VAL
ley, Ohio. The son, II years old.
identified his father in court and
told of his having a wife. Mrs.
Myrtle Childers Osborn, in Ohio.
osborn's bail was fixed at $4,000.
Unable to furnish bond he was
locked up in the county Jail.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
KEOKUK RAIDED
BY DRY AGENTS
Fourteen Men Arrested; Six Taken
in NauvOo, Ill, Broke jail and
Are Still at Large.

Keokuk, Iowa, Oct. 3-Nearly a
score of raids were conducted here
and in Nauvoo, ILL.,, yesterday and
last night by federal prohibition
agents. Six men arrested at Nau-
VOC broke Jail last night and have
not been apprehended.
Fourteen others arrested here
were released an bail of $500 each
this morning.
Federal agents have been work
ing on the case for three weeks
and three OF their number were en-
tered as students at the government
vocational training school at Nau-
VOC. Students at the school. 1t Is
charged, obtained liquors both al
keokuk and In Nauvoo.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03
HARVESTER
HEAD and
WIFE PART
Chicago's 400 All Agog
Over Rift in McCor-
micks' Lutte.

Chicago, Oct 3.-United PressD
Harold F. Mccormick and his
wife, the daughter of John D.
Rockefeller, have separated, it was
announced at the milIionaire's Lake
Forest home today.
Mccormick, who is head of the
International Harvester company
in a statement issued to the Unit
ed Press, through his secretary, def
initely confirmed rumors that have
been afloat ever since Mrs. McCor-
mick exiled herself in Switzerland
eight years ago.
MIR. and Mrs. Mccormick are liv-
ing apart" said the statement.
"It is not known whether or not
there will be divorce proceedings
No steps toward legal action have
been taken"
The statement concluded: NC
Cormick has nothing further to give
out"
The secretary to John D. Rookie
| feller's son-in-law then smiled, u
do not know where Mr.. Mccormick
is now. Perhaps 1 will not know
all day"
Mrs. Mccormick, who came back
to Chicago after her exile abroad
in a psychologists retreat, eVaded
all interyiewers today.
Wife Eyades Interviewers.
! She arose early-soon after dawT
according to reports, and Slip
ped out of the servants entrance
to her palatial town home on the
Gold Coast. 1t was reported she
had secreted herself in a nearby
hotel but the hotel management de
MED ali knowledge of her where
abouts as did her servants and tht
detectives guarding the grounds.
Mrs. Mccormick, in her last pub
/ lie statement made yesterday de
MED there had been a break with
her husband.
Such talk is absurd" she said
Eve are very happy, indeed"
Daughter With Mother.
/ Muriel, the pretty 19-year-old
daughter OF the wealthy and social
" prominent family. is understood
to be with her mother.
what broke up the McCormick
home?" was the question on every
! lip of Chicago's AGO today.
/ Mutual friends of the McCor-
micks, who would not allow the use
: of their names, said they believed
the desire of Mccormick, Mrs. Nc
| Cormick and their daughter, Muriel
for careers of their own, caused the
rift.
! Mrs. Mccormick studied under
: prom .nent psychologists while
abroad and has been quoted since
i she returned to Chicago that she
was about to establish an institu-
, ton for a new school OF thought
| Mccormick has devoted a great
deal of his time and money in re-
cent years to the promotion of the
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1921-10-03

COLUMBUS WAS
WRONG, VOLIVA
ASSERTS AGAIN
World Isn't Round
So 1t Must Be On
the Square.

Zion, Ill, Oct. 3.-Wilbur Glenn
VoIiva, addressing 5000 followers
in Shiloh tabernacle last night. re-
iterated his recent announcement
that the world is fiat and has no
motion, and announced a $1,000 re-
ward to any university or college
professor or layman who can prove
that the world is a sphere or moves.
Blames the Devil.
''The devil" the overseer of Zion
and successor of John Alexander
Dowie, said, lis the author of eVo-
luton. He is the author of higher
criticism and he is the author of
the Copernican system of astron-
omy."
"They ask some brilliant ques-
tions," he added. referring to his
critics, ''One gentleman in New
York wants to know if the earth is
a fat, stationary plane, why the
oceans do not flow over it. Simply
because God Almighty prescribed
the metes and bounds of the ocean
and said thus far you shall go, and
no farther Another brilliant fell
low says. What is to hinder one
from falling over the edge?' You
never reach the edge and you new
er will. for God Almighty's word
says the earth is surrounded by a
wall of ice and so it is"
"A astronomical Lies.
People are taught from childhood
up, Voliva said, to swallow these
astronomical lies, and when a man
digs into these things, thinks and
studies for himself, and is brave
enough to attack the whole system
as false. why the world laughs al
him and calls him a fool"
They learn these things in the
schoolhouse today. For instance
the teacher says: What is the
shape of the earth? And Johnny
Turnipseed says: a sphere"
What is the proof that it is
sphere?' the teacher asks
The disappearance of ships at
sea- Johnny says.
slot of Rot.
What a lot of rot. Not one of
these college professors ever look
ed into the thing, they Just opened
their mouths like a lot of birds and
swallowed an astronomical worm
and it's an Internal lie"
Now what is the second proof
that this world is round?
You can sail around it, they say.
sail around it, l can sail
around one of the water works
cribs out in Lake Michigan. but
that doesn't prove it's a globe. 1
can put a pie pan in bucket of
water and sail a toy boat around
it, but that doesn't prove it is
sphere. Nobody but fool would
ever advocate such a thing"