The New York herald., 1921-09-25
DEMOCRATIC GROUP
REALIGNED TOBLOCK
TREATIES IN SENATE
Fifteen to Is, Led by King
of Utah, Aided by Borah,
Join to Delay Ratifica-
tion Asked by Harding.
MOTIVES SEEM MIXED
BOrah Says Pacts Plunge Us
TOO Deeply King Not
Far Enough in Affairs
Of Foreign Nations.
NIGHT SESSIONS PROBABLE
Lodge Opens Debate After
Harding's Plea Is Made to
End War, Declare Peace
and Revive Business.
NIGHT SESSIONS PROBABLE
Special Despatch to THE New YORK HEnALp.
New York Herald Bureau,
Washington, ID. C.. Sent. "a

Special Despatch to THE New YORK HEsALp-
New York Herald Bureau,
Washington, ID. C., Sept. "a.
The German. Austrian and Hun
garian peace treaties collided with new
obstacles to-day in the form of an un-
expected uprising of Democratic Sem
ators.
While it is not likely that the oppo-
sition will muster sufficient strength
to reject the treaties 1t may be for
midable enough to interfere seriously
with President Harding's desire for
speedy ratification to get the compacts
out of the way before the interna-
tional armament conference in No
vember. Allied with Senator Borah
Udaho). Republican "irreconcilable.'
they may be powerful enough to keep
the debate running for long time.
Fifteen or eighteen Democratic Sem
ators are reported to be on the war;
path against the treaty although pre-
vious indications, based on the assur-
ances of several of their leaders, were
that only two or three would oppose
conference of Democratic members OF
the Foreign Relations Committee and
the steering committee probably will
be held early next week to decide upon
course of action.
Reservations Being Framed.
Democratic opponents Of the treaty ara
II frau np
which they will ask pro-treaty colleagues
to support. One of these reservations. il
IL understood. will undertake 10 more
specifically define the rights and advan-
tages which the United States is to OBJ
tain under the terms of the treaty. An
other is calculated to revive the doctrine
\ of Woodrow Wilson and will seek TO
/ bind the United States to the enforce
nent of the terms of the Versailles
Treaty. under which the United States
asserts rights and advantages.
Senator King (Utah). who is taking =
leading part in the Democratic attack
on the treaties, summed up his attitude
In this language:
Senator Borah contends that tho
/ new treaty of peace with Germany
! involves us too deeply in participa-
1 tlon IN european aI1diTS. we con-
| tend that 1t does not go far enough.
| In addition to the fifteen or eighteen
Democrats reported against the treaties
Il Is understood that three or four Re-
publcans are prepared to vote against
It. Prominent among the Democrats op-
posing tho pact are Senators King
tUtah). Glass tva.), Reed (Mo.). Wat
son (Ga-), McKellar (Tenn.) and Har-
| rfson (Miss.). Their motives are mixed.
Reed and Watson are "irreconcilables''
and most of the others are disciples OF
ex-Presdent Wilson and advocates oc
his creed OF closer participation in Eu-
ropean affairs.
Asks Early Ratification.
President harding's letter asking
speedy action on the treaties was sub
mitted to the Senate to-day at the open
ing of debate on the German pact IL
was addressed to Senator Lodge on Sep
tember 2i. 1t follows:
| am sending to the Senate to-day
the treaties OF peace which have been
/ negotiated with Germany Austria
and Hungary. As YOU already know.
these covenants are In complete har-
mony with the resolution adopted by
Congress indeed they are tho out
come Of the Executives endeavor 20
carry out the expressed wish Ot Con-
gress. feel quite sure that the Sem
ate will be glad TO give early ex-
\ preston OF approval and ratification.
\ Formal peace has been so long de-
4 layed that there is no need now 10
emphasize the desirabillty of early
action on the part OF the Senate. IL
will be most gratifying II you and
\ your colleagues will find II consistent
Il 10 act promptly 90 that we may put
n uutI ID In ~ nj rtf NJ
/ tionship and hasten our return to thu
4 fortunate relations OF peace.
4 Senator Lodge, opening the debate IN
\ behalf Of the treaty gave n con1prehen-
\ sive analysis OF the compact and dis
\ cussed the reservations adopted by the
\ Foreign Relations Committee. lie said
There seems TO be no alternative
l 10 the action We are asked 20 tako
here. either by these treaties or sim
/ ilar treaties. TO remaining In a state
Of technical war with Germany. with
| Austria ard with Hungary. ! am
! sure that not only the senate, but tha
| country Is very anxious 70 bring that
anomalous condition Of technical war
where there is no war to an end rhs
sooner thie can be settled and re-
\ moved. with tho stabizinR effects I
believe X Il going to have on busi-
ness. the better.
! Following detailed analysts Of Sec
tions OF the treaty and their relation
| 20 provisions OF the treaty OF Versailles,
/ Senator Lodge referred 70 American
association with the nations Of the
world.
II do not suppose" he said. ''any
one imagines that after the great war
and after the making of peace. how
| ever obtained. we were not TO have such
relations with other nations. at least.
az we have always had. such relations.
for instance as we have had Ia The
Hague convention. To my mind there is
a very great distinction between any