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Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
PH|LA. TO SEND 157
TO TRAINING CAMP
7S5 Pennsylvanians Will Spend
August at Meade at U. s.
Expense
LEAVE HERE ON MONDAY

The military training camp Mt Camp
Meade, Nd, Monday will receive 7S5
Pennsylvanians, including 157 from this
city, who will spend the month OF
August there at the expense Of the Gov
ernmcnt
The "Plattsburg idea,' this year Is
being applied in nine corps areas with
n training camp in each. Pennsylvania
is one of the leading states in the num-
Der of yung men who applied for a
month of military training.
The Philadelphia district also In =
cludes Chester, Delaware, Montgomery
and Bucks counties and had quota OF
205 men to receive the privileges OF
the training camp. For these places
there were $50 applications in the dis
trict, including 600 from this city.
Those who were not selected for this
years camp will be on n preferential
list for next year.
Those who leave from this city Mon
day are:
Eitiy:eishth street; John l. barSS$, ,SS6s
ffSs A:S bsE.Ts
iGy4 sss S9s? S4.fSs sss Nsy s
North Masoher street; Michael cosseii. -iaYt
Pd Federal street; Elliott, cgEtiss: 1929 Wss,,
tpsa Gfaa street, %.r Ss SSss
Eorth Thirteen street. Thomas !. Guinans
dsne uei Airea F. Harracn ss
North Eighteenth street; Archie L. Hnrshaw
siso R9Snoke street: James p. Hayden. 18'
:, Allen D. Davies. $500 North Ninet.entt
Bs sSss sss qGsfs NoatS fHsFs TssFss
s.at Shses s D'yn' D
2bSo North Twelfth street, Nathan L, Ede
sp 1S:a ass5 GSanS %a
SaSgr qs s;FSsi s'E' Klein fdisssdd 81
fwsnty:seeond street; Carl 6: LonEei; Girar,
sieksls street: Joseph r. Lind. $500 Norsi
seysnfh WniIaes street Fischer a,sa s,,,on stree,
Charles ": Ffs,nsS. diTaTa eoiioss: chaSisI
YIN efS @ eeath HI,h a9S:s ts'; .trssi
MathoT sLa x Gale. S4i2 Mescher street; An
Rsph s5Sn. 2e.n 2e sSqta 'Sth ac S
berg. ?Si2 Ss. South Tenth street: Herman Gold
berg. 2t8s South Seventh street; James +
McCalla. .sd: 1913 North seventeenth street
Il. HicNlenSmin. i5lS North Fiftyefirst s,reet rect
Paul Nicholson. II West gpsal street: os
Homewood: 35o3 Queen ians: Gilbert W
Jenkins, 3242 Huntington street. Charlie
Johnson. 1907 North Broad street: Irwin II
kahan. 1920 North Seventh street; Thoma
p. Kane, 259 East Evergreen tsreet; Josep
J. kazelsky. 127 Moore street: John Keller
S0i3 North Tulip street: Robert l.. Kelly
sell. Girard College: Rock santo. 424s Rich
mond street: Samuel Scharaga. 1882 Colum
East Schiller street: Jack Sherman. Eigh
tieth street and Bartram avenue; James II
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27

EE:Sn Esss. sas. tss' Nor TnSsenps ss.s .tS;s
Hff, S9oisGsa SsasS " ,ssses sth HE Sqs y ss
TlG%ss J,, B2Hnssr ii9a North Third ;ls:st ys.sr
222oe West Cumberland street; Philip Mellits.
bail ass soa,S af 'sf Fsftyf,S aS'sa street Jpsech
cSsnn.ra aSSt Earth Is.t MEssh ssr RHs
siI,Tn.s IIssn si9S south sstSni,s rtfsS, ysts,
icfos abosi North EwentyI.,h q .trss;i IFfsskiIn
@ Sf''F Ta11.i gs sap aHn Joyea Tsys5a .ass
Francs r., Coleman, agii Lancaster avenue
fssl cGsTaG asn, isS ts ws. as.r ..i
Mog 3uus f. s3a Sos 90 ss M.s
I.s sssFS sss 5 SsS, Sses q sssss sSs oss ss.
nue.: Albert Porter Jr., aiif | Horib n Iswrenee eSs
street: George a. e. Prenderssst. KeswieE
's ssIs dnsssd fsF' se7s snd tnasn pss '5sis. Bst:
%S% Ea5H HSsRsSs sss NSsls SsGs Fs :s
] ]szs.S EssSs EMssrs S,Sn TS s0S,S u.T 6sn
as$ SFssssss ss ist + 'SFS %s: $;
hslHsssT g. Hs. ssss soS'S
H. sso asSps NGrS S'SS 9c srct Paul
.,rect BayHey H'f %' brosdSs, ABB Np5 5oae faes Raes
street; Francis A. Carney, e2s North Forty.
sss.s s,Tsss 'Tfs. Xs, Anss0 Gssae St2
ftGsst %i,,S..sn,S Barnard ogsns 5r 1889 soS5s
Agsisy; s;rss street James SHInn SOSl Tsgmg
Millick street: Charles F. schantz. 1929
6tman ses Ssros W.
fa.S aops srs. street pomopos %sssS y
iKSirlini, siSty.thlrd and Glrard avenue; Al.
strcet.
Donald W. Drummond. 1924 North Thir-
teenth street; Robert. J; Ford, 485s Laneas'
ton street; Charles GrifntS,' $500 Boudinot
street; Leonard Suivetta, 1917 South Sew.
ssnth street; Alfred Tau.cher. a7Ss North
Marshal street: Nicholas q. Tsinis. ia
South Eleventh street; John J.. scarpate. 4la
Dickinson street; Carl q; Wright. 2404 JEFF.
ter avenue; Nelson w. doodwin. asS West
Rittenhouse street; Leroy Hauser, b480 Lob.
anon avenue; IIebert T. Hood. 1892 sprasue
Edgar iSs4 Ndrh dnas
Gsbrun i5t cedar 3 tss ,Test 'Jsa Jssn g G's heIe
Marpo ao5o rss, Sefth Twsaih street %
David v: Peacock. 2455 North, Fairhil
dSsia qfoFsS f. T'S s fsst Sssh
Edwin. ]; smy,h. 57si- IMeMshon avenue
Eoward e ssT1.f toSs g. NTss cs Ws &
gheny avenues, Arthur e., Enskle, 2s6. Ridge
avenue: Maitland Roach, 2ao5 Columbla
wdm ffd Fl IT, sansy is SOUTH %'
| street.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
MAYOR IS EXPECTED
TO VETO GAS RISE
National Aspect Of U. G. I. In
fluenoe to Play Part in
Moore's Decision
MESSAGE DUE TOMORROW

Mavor Moore, 1t is accepted with
..rcelv any question in City Tall. will
~ the Hall gas ordinance and so noti-
q Council tomorrow
m. Of the reasons for the Mayors
.,,,on. Il is understood, VIII be belief
49, approval Of the Hall proposal
I'D work to place the U. g. I. Co.
!. N. position Of being virtually ma
.,ral monopoly in the gas industry OF
tbe country.
,,trstion said today that IT the Hail
srdinance were signed 1t would heip Tue
snmpany to such commanding POSITION
N tie gas business, as Is now occupied
K, An Points in the powder and ex-
plosiye field.
Ramiflcations Are Many
:. "a pointed out in this connection
..st the U, G.. I. is. not merely a
M,iadelphia concern but u link In a
ss.;n o{ companies running across the
rston. Further, 1t Is explained that
~ leaders In the gas industry have been
sanductinx a Nation wide campaign to
Mn better terms from tho consumers
.nd thot Philadelphia is about the only
eity which failed to yield to this cam
Mayor Moore, It is known definitely,
I, Viewing the Philadelphia situation in
ia light of the national consequences,
40 to speak, Of his action on the Hall
II is clear, according to Administra-
tion observers, that the company antici-
rates a veto Of the Hall ordinance.
Fbe proposal made yesterday by George
Wharton Pepper, on behalf of the gas
company, Is interpreted by friends Of
the Mayor as dinstinct recognition of
he Mayors position, which is, first,
that the lease should be modified on the
bads Of the report made by the Gas
Commission and, second, that, the city
Aould be able to keep track of the
Next Turn Up to Mayor
II Is also understood that the gas
company now looks to the Mayor to
take the lead In solving the gas problem.
The Mayor will not comment at this
time on the Pepper proposition, but he
Indicated that he would call on Council
10 appoint small sub committee to
work with him, the Gas Commission
and representatives of the company in
working out the terms Of modified
lease.
This plan of action is forecast by the
Mayors statement that Council Is in
reality q party to the existing contract
between the city and the y. G. I. Co.,
and would. In his judgment, have to be
ment or contract could be made"
Thto ,,1on II ie fa1t 10 HvorkinU
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27

Schaffer. ss4% &, st<s A.xf
a determined stand agninst fee grab
bing IN Office has been taken by tho
Voters League which also announced
its resolution to fight political rings
who try to parcel out Offices among
their own followers. and TO make the
primary and the general election farce.
Shall two or three men, or a group
OF men, having control Of the Republic
can City Committee, the League asked
in a statement. use that control to
put into public Office the particular men
whom they desire, making farce not
only OF the primary, but of the eleo-
tion?
1--WE hope those who have hereto.
fore battled for good government will b.
big enough to stand by their principles;
but regardless OF what they may choose
to do the Voters League and the civic
associations connected with It intend 70
continue to assert and fight for the
principle Of civic Righteousness.
Any candidate for the Office Of Reg
lister OF Wills who wishes it's support,
the league declared, must pledge to turn
over all fees into the city treasury.
Register OF Wills Sheehan, in his eight
years In Office, II was stated, has re-
ceived approximately $3.50, 900.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
cbiIaish As 70 file papers II harmony Is

childish as to file papers II harmony Is
assured"
But the watchword. as II were. on
the political rialto today Is, You never
can tell"
Mayor Moore believes he has started
Senator Penrose to thinking. He ex-
poets to confer with Penrose again, and
until then there is hope, in his mind,
that the harmony deal will be busted
wide OPEN"
Interesting in relation to the local
situation is the fact that Pittsburgh Is
having a hot factional battle over the
mayornlty and that the Oliver end of the
fight is working to turn IL into a State
wide affair. The Oliver faction Is BAT
Ting the Leslie wing.
During the session of the Legislature,
George s. Oliver allied himself with
Joseph II. Grundy against the Sproul-
Grow Leslie organization. Now the
Oliver men would like to run a candi
date against Justice Schaffer. Governor
Sprouts friend, for the Supreme Court.
They have been seeking such a candi i
date in Philadelphia. Thus far this
search has been unsuccessful, though q
boom was started for Judge John NJ
Patterson for the Supreme Court.
Voters League Hits Fee. grabbing
An effort was made to induce Judge
Rogers to enter the list against Justice
Schaffer, but the effort failed. Judge
Patterson, It Is understood, will follow
suit. Senator Penrose is one with Gov
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
BOY SETS RECORD; BEATS
SISTER WINNING BICYCLE
William Watkln Took Only "a
Hours to Get His Subscriptions

Thirty nine subscriptions in twenty
three hours! That's what William
Watkin, eleven years old, did when
he set out to win a Black Beauty
bicycle that the PUBLIC LEDGER is Civ
ing away to boys and girls who get
thirty five subscriptions to the Even
ing, Morning or Sunday PUBLIC
LEDGER.
William wanted that bike" and so
did his sister, Matilda, who is two
years older.
Sister doesn't know how to go about
it," Billy said proudly.
1T took her longer"
Even II it did take Matilda longer
she also won Black Beauty in less
thnn n week and she is just as proud
as her brother.
Both William and Matilda attend the
Cooper Grammar School in Camden.
They are the children Of Lieutenant
Charles e. Watkin, of the Camden Fire
Department, who lives at 00S Point
street.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
Complaints Of Tenants Heard

Two investigators of the Bureau of
Legal Aid listened to complaints from
atty tenants in the 2000 block on East
Pacific street above Venango last
night. A meeting Of the tenants was
called at 20S0 East Pacific street by
the Investigators, Gilbert Ropars anil
julius Winters. The tenants com :
planned they were paying rents vary
ing from $50 to $40 to the same agent
for the same type of houses. An
Mort will be made to have the agent
equalize the rents.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
NAY KILL I
VARE'S $3.50 HOPES
MAYORS Talk With Senator
Expected to Produce
Results Soon
COMBINE FEELS SHAKY

If, Senator Penrose. sitting In state
mt Washington. should fling match
into the political powder Of Philadel-
rhia. the Ware Brown Cunningham
combine would be quickly exploded.
Indications today. more than ever.
nre that the harmony deal may be
blasted. This is the direct result of
day, when he plainly told the Senior
Senator that harmony as contemplated
meant the restoration Of contractor rule.
Combine leaders In general may hope
for harmony. None Of them wants TO
dig down in his pockets and provide the
cash required for fact,onai battle.
Ware leaders. however. are the only
members of the combine who are any
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
City Doctors Exemption HearJna

The Civil Service Commission will
hold a hearing Thursday, August 4, at
II A. NJ, in Room 878. City Hall. for
the purpose Of considering the cases OF
nurses and doctors now employed who
are In the exempt clnss. When they
were employed without examinations the
exempt oeriod was to extend only to
August 81. Thursdays hearing is for
the purpose of allowing en- extension.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
BODY OF. B. F. ROGERS HERE
Nephew Of Judge Died Of Wounds
In France-Funeral Saturday

The body of Bernard +. Rogers, for
merly attached to Company X, 109th
Infantry, Twenty eighth Division, a
nephew Of Judge Rogers, of the
Common Pleas Court. has arrived
In this city from France. Bur-
ial will be made Saturday from
the home of his brother, James
W. Rogers, 2415 North Twenty eighth
street.
The soldier was twenty two years old
when he died of wounds in Bracy,
France, September 6. 1918. He for
merly worked in the Office of Judge
Rogers, which position he left to go to
the Mexican at the age Of seventeen
years. He was wounded during q
battle In the Vesle River and later
died. He was promoted from a private
70 communication officer for bravery on
the field.
His brother, James w. Rogers, also
erved overseas with the Seventh ninth
Division and was wounded during ac-
ton.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27
KILLED BY LUMBER CRANE
Camden Workman Fatally Hurt II
David BaIrd's Yard

George Smith, Front and Danen-
hover streets, Camden, was killed
shortly before noon today when the
boom Of lumber crane struck him on
the back.
He was an employe Of the David
Baird lumber yard. The crane was
moving logs.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1921-07-27

BAND CONCERT TONIGHT
The Municipal Band will play tonight
N the Neighborhood Guild yard, Fourth
and Green streets.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
INTEREST IN LAW ENFORC b
MENT

Interest in law enforcement should
be the duty of every citizen, but 1t
should be in the shape of support OF
their duly elected officers of the law
who have been selected for that pur-
pose.
If every good citizen should make
those whom he has elected to repre-
sent him in the enforcement of law
understand this, the officers would
feel this influence, and more readily
run down offenders, and the courts
would be more severe on law break
ers.
This would remove all excuse for
mobs taking the law into their own
hands, and organizations forming for
The purpose of aiding in the enforce
ment Of law.
All that is required is a healthy
and sane condition of affairs.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
1T is ALLEGED THAT
ARBUCKLE MADE ADMISSIONS

Los Angeles, Cal, Sept. 21.-Ad-
mission declared to have been made
by Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle that he
had used foreign substance in an
attack upon Miss Virginia Rappe dur
ing party at the Hotel st. Francis,
In San Francisco, were described by
AL Semnacher, a friend of Arbuckle,
today before the Los Angeles county
grand jury, according to w. c. Do
ran, chief deputy district attorney.
Arbuckle is held at San Francisco,
charged with numbering Miss
Eappe. Doran said Semnacher
swore Arbuckle had told of applying
ice to portions of Miss Rappe's body.
Doran outlined the testimony in
confirming reports that Samnacher
had made identical statements to him
a. an earlier time and then had de-
clared that he had not, even at the
San Francisco inquiry, told of the al
legged admitted facts
Semnacher testified that on the
morning following the party Ar
buckle told him in the presence of
Lowell Sherman, actor, Fred Fish
tack, director, and Harry McCul-
lcugh, chauffeur, that he had taken
Miss Rappe into a room with him
and had committed certain acts in
connection with the alleged crime
These acts, according to Chief Dep
uty Doran, were of character likely
to have caused the injury from which
Miss Rappe's death resulted.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
FULL STATEMENT
is MADE BY ONE
ATTENDING PARTY
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sick. His exact words were That
Rappe girl is sick
She was then in Arbuckle's room
some of the people were in there and
some were outside in the living room
[ went into Mr.. Arbuckle's bed room
and saw Miss Rape on one Of the
twin beds tearing off her clothing.
clutching at her stomach evidently in
pain and groaning. 1 can
not say she screamed She used no
words that were distinct 1t was
just sort of mumbling and groan-
ing.
sherman told Mr.. Swami that
after looking at Miss Rappe he had
said, 81 guess that little girl has a
little bun on and and has indiges-
ton"
Sherman said that then one of the
party had put the young woman in
cold bath and that Arbuckle had
sent for the house physician and as
sistant hotel manager, carrying the
girl half way to the room he had
engaged for her. He said the last he
saw Of her was when she was put to
| bed.
Sherman declared when he said to
Arbuckle it is too bad the girl had
gotten sick, the latter said:
well, listen here. This party is
going to be little bit rough and we
had better see what we can do. You
tell them the reporters are coming
and they had better get out.
'The party got on my nerves.
was very bored, and didn't pay much
attention to what happened. It was
generally accepted though that thu
girl had gotten little bun on and
was ILL.,"
The daily times., 1921-09-22

we helped Richmond TO get the
-egionaI bank aud this is her ap-
oreciation | feel like the old maid
hat belonged to the church and they
had one of the brethren Up for kiss
ing one Of the sisters. he got up
and said he was guilty and he was
sorry for it and asked them to for
give him, they put it to vote and
they all voted to forgive except this
sister, she said brethren and sisters,
| have been a member of this church
for thirty years and its been kissing
md forgiving and forgiying and kiss
ing and I've had all of the forgiving
to do and none Of the kissing so
vote no. So | am like the old maid
It is time to quit Virginia. Baltimore
is our friend and is a southern city
so why not patroniZe Baltimore?
James Dempsey Bullock.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
AGREES WITH THE TIMES.

l heartily approve your article in
~csday's Times as to trading with
Virginia cities. Seven years ago we
wrote an article along the same line
when the Virginia cities were un-
willing to allow us to have fair and
just freight rates. do not believe in
kissing the hand that smites you;
and I am not Christian enough that,
when they smite you on one cheek,
turn the other one also. When one
smites me on one cheek 1 believe in
sidestepping and landing one on his
jaw. For over forty years North
Carolina has been Virginia's meal tick
et-they tried to claim all the credit
for the fighting in the Civil war.
They have thrown every obstacle in
the way of our getting just freight
rates and now they are attempting to
take the pennant away from the
North Carolina towns. We can live
without Virginia. Let's try it a while
and see il she can live without US
The daily times., 1921-09-22
ATTENTION METHODIsTs.

All members of the Methodist
church and Sunday school are invited
to attend the Rally Day services at
the First Methodist church Sunday
September 25th at 9:45 a. m.
Song services and talks on Sunday
School work will be given. Visitors
are extended a cordial welcome.
The object of this get-together
meeting is to let our membership
know what we have been doing in
the several departments, and to ex-
plain our plans for the future.
Sept. 22 Std
The daily times., 1921-09-22
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY
SUFFERS

When capital and labor fall out
nifty suffers.
The workingman loses in point OF
wages, and those dependent upon
him are deprived to that extent of
the comforts and luxuries of life.
The industry is affected, while it's
capital is unemployed and it's ma
chinery idle
The community is hurt by reason
of the fact that wage earners spend
their money weekly or monthly as
the case may be and this money is re-
moved from circulation, and trades
men suffer, and general business is
paralyzed.
That no man can live by himself
ct unto himself alone is so we'll es-
tablished that it cannot be success
fully controverted. There was a
time when the country was young,
and men lived miles apart, and were
compelled to produce almost every
thing they required on their own
plantations living to oneself was
handled more effectively without
others suffering inconvenience to an
appreciable extent. But as popula
tion increased and men became
specialists, and one section produced
what another required the situation
was changed, and individuals, states,
communities and countries began to
be affected by the action of the 9TH
ers.
That is not all that strikes will Co.
They engender ill feeling between
the employer and the employed, when
on the other hand the greatest ties
of friendship, and mutual confidence
and respect, and the desire to make
the business they are engaged in sue
cessful for the common good of all
should exist between them.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
TWELVE HUNDRED APPLY
FOR MISSION WORK

New York, Sept. 21.-More than
1900 girls and women recently have
applied for appointments as foreign
missionaries, according to Miss Ma
belle Rae McVeigh, candidate secre-
tary of the Woman's American Bap-
tist Foreign Mission Society. Ages
of applicants, Miss McVeigh said,
range from IA to As.
...Probably one reason for the as
tonishing increase in the number of
applicants, Miss McVeigh said, ''is
the fact that the war has made the
world seem smaller. so that foreign
lands no longer seem as distant as
they formerly did
The daily times., 1921-09-22
CONTINUED DETERIORATION

Reports of further deterioration
of the cotton crop is Indicated from
various parts of thiG state, as well as
Dresence of weevils and other insects.
Reports from the south also lndl-
cate that the prospect for a crop OF
even less than seven million DaleS Is
apparent.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
SALES LIGHT TODAY

The tobacco sales today did not
total more than 300, 900 pounds, and
prices were about as yesterday. The
sales yesterday were nearly 500, 900
pounds, and all the tobacco was
cleaned up for the day, showing that
the market is now in good running
order.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
GOOD RAIN

Mr.. J. o. Hearne, who travelled
from Rocky Mount to Halifax by au-
tomobile yesterday informs us
good rain fell between these two
towns, and the fall was much heav-
ier than in this section. -
The daily times., 1921-09-22
A SURF ENOUGH BARGAIN

We have a fine lot of nice crisp
celery to sell tomorrow, as long as
it lasts, at only 10c the stalk. Also
fire lettuce at attractive prices.
Carroll Grocery Co. 9 % it'd
The daily times., 1921-09-22

Just the sweaters wanted for the
college girls and boys in the heavy all
pure wool grade now at Fulghums.
g 21 2td
The daily times., 1921-09-22

Parish are urged to be present
Mrs. Bonner is an unusually inter-
esting and instructive speaker and
will discuss matters of vital interest
to the welfare of the Parish.
Morrison Bethea.
The daily times., 1921-09-22
TO SPEAK AT EPISCOPAL
CHURCH,

Mrs. Bonner of Raleigh will speak
in the Episcopal Church tonight
Thursday at p. m.
All members and friends of the
The daily times., 1921-09-22

Every man, woman and child is
invited to open a Savings account on
the 1st Saturday in October. Allan
tic Building and Loan Association
21 14td
The daily times., 1921-09-22

Full line imported French 1aces in
the fine neat patterns like before-de-
war at very low prices at Fulghums.
9 81 2td
The daily times., 1921-09-22

Fresh almond maccaroons at Car
rolls. 8 % It'd
The daily times., 1921-09-22

29th Series of the Atlantic Build
ing & Loan Association begins Sat
urday, October 1st. Geo. T. Stro-
mach. Sec. s21 14td
The daily times., 1921-09-22

See the s1.O0 grade silk hose that
arrived today at Fulghums.
8 21 2td