The Bennington evening banner. (Bennington, Vt.) 19??-1961, 1921-04-19
ONE SOCIALIST CURED
o. Wanting to Live Under Soviet
Governments.

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! New York. April 17.-If socialists
in this country could spend little
time in Soviet Russia before declar-
ing that the BolsheW Iii have set up
an ideal state there. they would soon
learn that their views are entirely
i wrong This statement was made by
/ Jacob III. Rubin of Milwaukee, who
had been a member of the socialist
democratic party for Is years prior
to his visit to Russ a, and who, since
his recent return, has resigned from
the party and has decided never
again to become afflicted with politi-
cal social SIN.
Mr. Rubin is well known in Milwau
kee as financial ''backer' Of The
( Leader, which was edited by the
ousted socialist congressman, Victor
Berger. Whenever he had the oppor-
tuhity to speak from public plat
form, said Mr.. Rubin, he declared
himself in favor of government
such as he believed the BolsheNki
had established in his native country
Conditions in Russia today are al
most indescrlbable," he said, People
in this country are made to under
stand that Lenine and TTotzky are
democrat to the extreme and eyery
ono loves them. The truth is that
tho government over there at pres
emf is no different from the one under
the car and Rasputin. Just as the
peasants feared the tyrannval Ro
manoff before his overthrow, they
fear the Soviet leaders now.
There are nine anti-Bolsheviki to
every adherent to s0vietism in Russia
to-day even in such ties as Moscow
and Petrograd where the BosheWN
are considered powerful. But the peas
ants had to submit when the govern
ment was under the seal of the eagle
and they are afraid to do anything
different while it is under the red
seal.
we read recently Of an uprising
against the government in Kronstadt,
Nothing came of it because the soviet
officials there are too powerful. Like
wise there would be no successful
counter.revolution in Petrograd or
Moscow. The only places where they
might meet with little success are
Odessa Kiev and Clargoff, which
have not yet been made soviet strong
holds"
Mr. Rubin told of meeting Alexan-
der Berkman and Emma Goldman in
Moscow. where they are working for
the government compiling data on the
industrial movement since the pres
ent government has been established
They are both very much dissatisfied
with their lot and Miss Goldman had
comp'a ned to the interviewer fire.
auently that she was sorry she left
America, he said
"But you have free speech now and
should be satisfied Mr. RUBIN said
ne told her.
Forget It," was her reply
In the course of her conversation
with him, he said:
"Mr. Rubin, II you use your infu-
| ence in getting me back to America
promise III be a good little girl
Emma is Gully one out Of many who
has seen the mistake in Bolshevism,
| said the former socialist
! Every one in Russia is eyed with
SuSptClVH py every one elSs' Even
Americans in Moscow refuse to talk
openly to ether supposed Americans
| for fear they mi ght he spies, Mr.
Rubin said. And he was no different
from tie others When it became
known that he had brother who is
an officer N the American Fedora.
ton of Labor and a daughter who
had been active in collecting money
for the various drives in this country
dur.ng the war, he was looked upon
by every one with suspicion. But
when they learned that he had sent
letter to st. Louis newspaper say
ing that he was disappointed with
practical socialism their suspicion be
came greater and he was thought to
he q SPY.