New-York tribune., 1921-01-28
Lloyd George Vetoes
BRAND Plea, Insists
Boulogne Decisions Be
Adhered To as Final
Committee Named
To Study Problem
New Political Upheaval
Over Rebuff at Paris
Conference Threatened
By Ralph Courtney
cn1ciof Cable to The Tribune

PARIS. Jan. 81. Premier Lloyd
George to-day, in a hotly debated ses
sion of the Supreme Council, laid Eng
1snd's cards on the table regarding
German reparations and declared that
The findings of the Brussels conference
must be followed. Premier BRAND of
France, in his reply, made an assertion
which is likely to cause another politi-
cal crisis in France. He asserted that
when he assumed Office he understood
that in doing so his hands were free
and he had been unaware that def
mite repararions program had been
reached at Boulogne.
At the end of the days conference
the French delegates, contrary to their
custom, declined to say word about
the sitting. Grave consultations arc
being held tonight, and it is believed
that there are hanging in the balance
questions which strike at the root of
French life and are likely to cause
political if not national upheava's.
Lloyd George in his declaration on
reparations said it was absolutely
necessary to settle something imme-
diatey. He declared it was better to
have a partial solution now than await
ideal arrangements later. The whole
world was waiting for something to be
done, he said.
Italy Supports Britain
Italy and Belgium supported him in
this stand Count Sforza. the Italian
Foreign Minister, said he was strongly
in favor of the Brussels figures. The
Belgian delegate said that it would be
q great mistake to depart from the
method decided on by the experts at
Brussels and Boulogne. To inaugurate
new system of payments at this
stage would unsettle the whole world,
be said. To tn attack rom all sides
the French Finance Minister, Doumer
merely replied that his views were un-
changed by all the speeches which had
been made.
Llovd George asserted that the con-
versations at Boulogne represented a
definite agreement between the Allies.
It was then that BRAND announced that
be had not known of this definite agree
ment.
A committee finally was appointed to
sett e definite reparations program,
which could be adopted at future
meeting + the Council
If public anger in France is aroused
by the small size Of the Bou 'ogne repa-
nations figures it may be vented against
President Millerand, who was Premier
at the time OF the Boulogne conversa-
tions.
Holds Sum Too Low
Pre,.ier BRAND in his speech to-day
asserted that the Boulogne figure
amounted to TO more than 65 milliards
god marks for France. France has
foreign debts amounting to 25 milliards
gold marks, and he declared it vas quite
impossible to repair the German de-
vastitior in France with the differ
ence. He pleaded that the Allies fix
now only annuities for the next two
Or three years and leave the decision
as to the total bill until later. He said
that the French Republic would not be
unreasonable if it were proved t. it
what the Versailles treaty provides
is impossible. He said that the repara-
tons commission must be allowed TO
declare the amount of German indebt-
edness as the treaty stipulates.
France might be prepared to make
sacrifices, he said, but at least it
wanted credit for her generosity. He
declared, however, that France would
desired to have proof that the situa-
uon was as represented.
Lloyd George said that three things
were essential now-to fix the amount
oi reparations and the method of pay
ment, to require Germany to put her
saxation and finances in order and that
.nere should be another meeting here
Similar to the one at Spa, where the
entire matter could be finally dis
eussed and settled.
French ENJOYS Gloomy
ire French are very gloomy over to-
aay,s proceedings, and it is feared that
!, brand appears in the Chamber Of
Dsputies with nothing better than
nnas ne has he will be overthrown aai
folncare put in his place.
lloyd George, in replying to BRAND $
conventions, said they "ere al yery
ws,i' but that when placed in contact
xl'n hard facts they would be shown to
~ mpracticable. He said the treat
a'iheuity would arrive when an attempt
tcsatIausd on sass four,