New Britain herald., 1921-08-25
TURKS CONFIDENT OF FINAL VICTORY
Old Chief Tells: Correspondent i Of Army Plans

ouly -O. (Ihe Associated Press) Mus 'apha lsmet Pasha, the brilliant chief ol the Turk forces on whose patience ana Vile depends much of the success or failure of the Natonalists, was train ca III the hard school of frontier fight Ing with Arabs, kurds, Russians, and Dll'lsh' during the great war, especial " at the Dardaneles where he Was chlef of staff He is given more to acton than to words
 Rather deaf, hearing with difTicultiy only m his left ear, he isn't given to making conversation. Throughout the army, to the last soldier, his deafness IS known and when he speaks to sol dlers III the ranks. as he does often, they shout their answers
 However, with the Greek offensive m full swing, Ismet pasha invited the correspondent to stay and go about with him. II want to talk to you be- cause we Turks rarely present our side of the case," he said ''As an American, you are at least neutral if not friendly.'' So riding in his auto mobile among the troops, or lunching and dining with him, OF over his desk, the interview ran over many hours, from one day to another.
 We are lonely out here in our mountains, cut off from the world and we want to know what, the world is thinking about,'' he explained "AlI we know is that we are oblie- ed to Win the war. We are fighting for all we have. Our cause is just We are in the position of the French during the great war. We didn't ex- pect to renew the war after the armis- tice. No one should accept war ex- cept as an inevitable necessity. Ger ] tainly the Greeks were not in this ne cessity.
 'This war has been. brought on by white-collared diplomats. It is often said that we soldiers are cruel, and surely we are, but wars are made by cynicalminded or stupid diplomats far 1 more cruel than we.
 ''Why should Greek peasants be sent to our land to massacre and mur- l der and burn? Surely this peasant ] doesn't wish to do this. All he knows | is that he is fighting for King Constan- l tine. The king flatters himself tha t | he has military talent. But he will lose the war, and also his throne when his people understand how unjust is the | war.
 ''The king thought the war would be
 a promenade like the one he made in 1 little general, his black eyes sparkling. 1 But he won't. Military logic is against him.
 | ''The Greeks are coming with lots of 1 material. These will be ours in time. l Say the Greeks have now so, GOO effec- l tive combat men. We have as much ! and we have the men to keep on in i .reasingS our army as we cal pture Greek
 nlateria! 10 outfit them. Whereas the | Greeks can never be stronger nurneri-
 call5. They have drawn their las;
 troops, taking boys of eighteen. l At the armistice, we disbanded an
 army of 300, ,OOO men. We can get them
 again, though now we are taking only ] picked men,
 Asked If he had any Germans or | Russians in his forces, he said: ''Of | course not. Have you seen any? We | don't need them.
 l ''Wthout faith, the best prepared ] war may be lost. We have that. We | know our cause is just. Our soldiers | may not be spick and span, to Europ-
 can eyes they may look lily equipped but their hearts are right and they | know how to fight. They will fight
 until told the war is over and won. Ii
 may take 10 years, but we are prepar-
 ing for that
 | At the end of the great war, the
 Allies thought to cruelty us, using the Greeks and Armenians to drive in the
 nails. We gave up our arms and oul
 cannon. But with an irregular army we
 have slowly restored the parts to ou1
 cannon, manufactured the breecf pieces, removed by the British. W' have also captured Greek material
 likewise arms and cannon sent by thu
 British to Armenia and we have SC
 cured British supplies sent to Denni kine.
 There's no military reason why w:
 shouldn't retake Constantinople. Blu we must first get rid of the Greeks ol
 this front.'