The New York herald., 1921-10-07

they could see something and the final
action OF the seeing was done in seeing
tunnel in Detroit"
ITO be perfectly frank. what was that
$500 paid for?''
For the services OF Mr.. Matthews"
Mr.. Seeley, assistant engineer in
Queens. said he was much impressed
by what he saw in Detroit on his trip
with Mr.. O'Roul.ke. as the work there
was the first case where pre-cast block
had been used in the soil OF that kind
lie made II clear his interest in the
work was entirely and solely technical.
Borough President Connolly listened
closely TO all the testimony regar ding
contracts given under his administra-
ton. Finally he addressed the COM
mittee. saying that he was not invited
70 attend. but would give any inforna-
ton desired regarding his campaign
funds II the committee wished the truth.
The committee had called for Thomas
+. Purcell. whose name was mentioned
In connection with Pbillips's and who
did not respond as a witness Mr.. Con-
molly said the committee ought to be
able TO get him, as Purcell had been
employed by the investigators for weeks
Ihat was denied by Senator Meyer and
others, who said Purcell never was en-
ployed.
senator Lockwood asked to be heard
IN answer to the Dwyer charges He
related how Detectives Burns, Daly and
others had gone to him asking .,is sup
port Tor a detective bureau bill. r.. told
them he would not introduce the naas-
ure unless II had the approval of Mayor
Hyian, Commissioner Enright and the
pouce associations. Commissioner En-
risht urged him TO support the bill, but
"nen opposltion arose Lockwood moved
to refer 1t back. The Senator said.
At no time or at no place did any,
oouy. directly or indirectly, suggest or
otter 20 pay 81 or anything OF value for
the said legislation. tho advancement of
il or the passage of it. II was at All
times question OF those who favored
making this rank permanent under GER
tain conditions and those who opposed
II. All of the hearings held on 1t were
open and public in Albany All of the
conferences were the same way, and
there were many of them between repre-
sentatives of the different groups.
Il hope that Inspector Dwyer. now or
at any other time, will have the fullest
ana completest opportunity to present
any question to me on this matter. or
any representative of the city or the
press. and if any of the press have any
question to ask relating to this legisla-
ton ! would like them to offer such
questions to the counsel of the commit
tee. because this story he's been going
around In an underground whispered
form for weeks and weeks, and 1t is
wholly and absolutely known to be false
by the people who circulate it. | never
say w mo Jy,e
Mr.. Murphy said. answering Dwyer:
Il have never had any tee, gift re-
tainer or anything else. either directly or
indirectly. from any member of the de-
tective bureau Of New York city or
others connected with this bill or any
other bill upon this subject or upon any
other subject connected with the Police
Department.
'Iu 1920 / prepared the detective bu-
reau bill for a member Of the detective
bureau. The, bill was afterward ap-
proved by Commissioner Enright. as
remember. revised by me. and intro
duced by Senator Lockwood. ] appeared
at the hearing on behalf of the bill and
did all | could to have the bill approved
by the Legislature. and I am very glad
did as the bill of 1920 should have be-
come a law. What i did was entirely
proper. was glad 10 90 IL ana would
do 1t again. The work was entirely vol
untary. and I never received fee. re-
tainer. gift or any other compensation.
nor did I ask any. or accept any, nor was
there ever any conversation with anv
person or persons either connected with
the Police Department or otherwise
which could be in any way construed to
lead me to believe, or any one else TO
believe, that I would ever receive any"
The hearing will continue this for
noon at 10 O'Clock