Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1921-02-07
Majority Votes To
Certify Cathro To The
House For Contempt
Continued From age l.,

produce for the purpose of this record
certain papers Of the Bank OF North
Dakota of which you are director
general and at the request of q mem.
Der of the Industrial commission sit
ting here an adjournment was taken
over Saturday. 1 want to say to you
this: So much has been said in refer
ence to counsel being here that we do
not van any confusion, and I will
state hat the rule adopted by this
committee, forbids counsel only from
participating in the examination. But
that you as a witness or n other
witness who sees fit may have all the
counsel you wish here to advise you
as to FOUR rights when It comes to
answering questions You understand
that, do your.
Just repeat that question, please
said Mr.. Cathro.
"You as a witness or any other wit
ness may a all the lawyers you de-
sire for the purpose of advising you
as a witness as to your rights when
iyou are asked to answer a question.
y The rule prohibits lawyers only from
participating in the examination"
You understand that at this time
you have a right to counsel to advise
you as to any question h a is asked
you here as to whether it is answered
or not" repeated Mr.. Murphy.
Did Not Understand.
mo. I did not so understand IT,"
said Mr.. Cathro.
"Well you understand it now, do
you Mr.. Cathro? You will be ad-
vised. and l will say now, if you wish
to advise with counsel, all % have
to do is to express such a desire. 1t
Ia a fact, is It not. that Mr.. Lemke
and Sinkler have been in the court
room at all times during your exam
ination?" said Mr.. Murphy.
YES" said Mr.. Catnro.
Mr.. Murphy hen requested Mr..
Cathro to produce the records asked
for last Friday.
Mr.. Cathro attempted to repeat the
statement he had made on a previous
occasion, urging the committee not to
continue the probe in to the relations
of the Bank of North Dakota with
the other banks of the state regard
ing re-deposits.
will you please produce the rec
ords." repeated Mr.. Murphy. you
can make any explanation you may
wish afterwards"
Cathro endeavored to continue his
IF you will produce the records you
can give opinion you wish after
wards" replied Mr.. Murphy.
In a low voice Cathro attempted to
say that he was not giving opinions
but facts. Mr.. Murphy repeated his
demand that the record be produced
and asked that the committee in
struct the witnesses to answer the
iquestion. sa
+ What Followed.
The following is the official report
Of what followed.
Shipley: l move hat the witness
be instructed to answer the question.
Freeman: Seconded and motion
carried.
Mr.. Chairman: Mr.. Cathro please
answer counsel's question.
Murphy: Will you produce the
records requested of you Friday. to-
wit: the re-deposits individual record
of the Scandinavian-American bank
of Fargo and all the other banks in
the city of Fargo.
CathrO: II am instructed to re-
Ifrain from taking from said institu-
itions n iten,s or property belonging
thereto. I am further instructed to
permit any persons duly authorized
by resolution duly passed in either
house Of the Seventeenth Legislative
assembly. or persons delegated. by
such resolution, carrying proper
credentials under such authorization
to examine and inspect any of tn.
above mentioned items or property
under my control.
Murphy: That is your answer is il
to my request that you produce the
records requested of o last Friday
That is your sole answer, is it? :
III Cathro: 1 have not made any re.
lfusal to produce anything.
Murphy: Will you produce right
now before this committee at it:
hearing the records l am asking o,
you?
Cathro: What is that?
Murphy: Will you produce these
records l have asked of you repeated
ly.
Cathro: My instructions from tn,
industrial commission are not to de
liver the records.
Murphy: Then you won't do 1t
You are going to follow the instruc
ton of the industrial commission ant
not the demands of this committee
Is that correct?
Cathro: I am not taking a per
sonal stand on the matter.
Murphy: I understand, but VOL
are on the stand as a person and 20,
as a person must answer my ques
ton. Have you those records witt
you?
Cathro: have not.
Murphy: You didn't bring then
: here this morning n produce Their
here in the court room!
Cathro: 1 don't know If there ar
any such records in the court room.
Murphy: You didn't bring my Q
them along.
Cathro: I didn't.
Murphy: So we understand on
and another thoroughly do we not
that you're going to follow the in
structions given to you by the in
dustrial commission and disregard tn
instructions of these committee t
produce those records at this time. ]
this correct?
Cathro: I have read the instruc
tons l have received.
Murphy: And that is your answe
to my request and the request of thi
committee. is that correct?
That's. His Answer.
. .Cathro: That is the answer.
Murphy: And that is the only an
swer we get?
Cathro: That Is, the answer I Civ
you.
Murphy: I have no further desir
to exanine this witness at this time.
l would suggest to this committe
that the witness, having declined t
obey the lawful and proper order q
the committee, that proper action b
taken to certify him up to the hous
Of representatives for contempt {
this committee and contempt Of tn
house.
Grangaard: I will entertain a mo
ton at this time to invoke Rule I
that Mr.. Cathro be certified to tn