The New York herald., 1921-10-18

''pcctHi' CuOfe 10 1HE NEW YORK HERALD.
Copyright, 1921, by THE Nav York HERALD
New York Herald Bureau.
London, Oct. IL.
An effort will be made by the Irish
delegates to get clear indication of
which way the peace conference is
trending before the Prime Minister,
Mr.. Lloyd George, leaves here for
Washington. 1t is likely the Irish
conference will have solved some very
controversial questions before Novem-
Der 2, and the first Of these will be
Ulster.
When the conference adjourned this
afternoon, it was without fixing date
for a new meeting. This gave rise to
q report that rupture had already
come, but this report was later denied
and it was explained that the indefi-
mite adjournment was taken because
of the press of Mr.. Lloyd Georges ap-
pointments with the opening of Par
Lament tomorrow and perhaps for a
day or so to come with unemployment
legislation.
There is every likelihood, however
that If the Ulster problem was undis-
cussed in its larger aspects to-day. its
details formed the chief subject of the
meeting. which lasted two and n half
hours. It was known to be the belief
in Government quarters that the Gov
ernment itself would have to bring the
matter up soon, IN vicw of Sir James
Crafg's threat to 'brcak the teeth OF
any mice trying to nibble Ulster gran
ite."
Belfast Sore Spot.
The Irish are equally keen to get
something done definitely with regard
to the present state OF disorder in Bel
fast. They insist that their people are
suffering grievously from organized and
unorganized attacks there and want to
know who is running the province any
way. Unless some better arrangement
Is made they are frankly afraid of open
Eostilities between large forces in Ul-
ster, which would be prelude to what
would be close TO q general civil war.
1t is perhaps this the Irish mean when
they say, as they are reported saying.
that they want to know before Mr..
Lloyd George goes to Washington
whether it is to be peace or war. Naturally
and frankly, the Irish are loath to leave
{. negotiations in the hands of Lord Birken-
head Lord Chancellor. or even those
George Is away, as they feel the LORD
Chancelors record justifies the suspi-
cion that he would not mind seeing the
whole business kicked over. Also they
fear that Mr.. Churchill with Mr.. Lloyd
George out of the country might be
open to the temptation to take the bit
in his teeth and romp off with some
policy of his own contrary to that Of
Mr.. Lloyd George.
lo ri ieI, Vn,sfl
entity weighty proof backing them. that
the outrages in Belfast are all provoca-
tive tactics Of extreme Orangemen. They
are frankly afraid, not only that heir
own men In Ulster, but that the south
generally as well, cannot be held in
check much longer II persistent rob-
berries and assaults on Catholics in Bel
fast continue. With Mr.. Lloyd George
out of the country, they feel that such
q flareup would result in negotiations
being broken off forthwith at the in
etance of either Lord Birkenhead or Mr..
Churchill.
Premier Prepares for rip Here.
Mr. Lloyd George, however, is re-
ported to have weighed all these pros
poets carefully and Is going on with his
preparations to go to the United States
in time for the opening of the arma-
IL the Irish negotiations break down 1t
win be more than ever necessary for
him to be in America to defend the
British record.
If, or the other hand. the Irish nego-
tiations go on he Is confident he can SO
arrange 1T as TO prevent the delegates
coming to serious grips before he re-
turns, as 1t will be brief visit he will
make under the American flag \.
pyan rot in fav, wit ,l,a
British delegation to Washington are
meanwhile going on rapidly. Although
South Africa will not be represented.
practically every other Dominion and
India will be, and represented strongly,
although Il is now likely that only
Canada and Australia will. have place
! in the actual British delegation IL any
places are allotted to the dominions.
The others will have strong Representa-
tIons among the experts. AS reported up
r. late hour this evening, the person
mel Of the British delegation is as yet
not entirely settled.
LONDON, Oct. 17.--Inaulry at both the
| Irish office and Sim Feln headquarters
disclosed that as yet neither side has
been able TO estimate the prospects of
concession by the other. The Sim Fein
maintains its full separatist claim and
rbli ilisthtS hiilNS Ol lfGidHu dfl iiuss-
pensable condition TO membership in the
British Commonwealth.
Elaborate statistics have been pre-
pared for submission to the conference
70 prove the injustice OF excluding
northeast Ulster The next stage Is
expected to be the presentation by the
Irish delegates OF a plan of local au-
fcnomy within the Irish State. which
viii then be submitted to Sir James
Craig, Ulster Premier
II the Government supports Ulster in
refusing any compromise, the confer
ence, II Is declared, will break up and
the Irish delegates will return to Ire
land. IL the Ulster difficulty is over
come, finance and trade policy will be
debated. the Sim Fein having prepared
long statements on both these subjects.
Both sides agree that II the conference
continues over Friday a settlement will
be In sight.
Behind the scenes pressure Is being
employed to both sides for and against
} peace. Civil and military representa-
tlves OF the Irish Government who
have been in conflict with each other