Evening star., 1921-12-31

tation, the following statements "eie
issued:
The tenth joint meeting of the com
mittee on limitation of armaments
and the subcommittee on naval llml-
tation was held this morning, Decem-
her 30. 1921, at IL o'clock, in the
Pan-American Union building.
The chairman (Mr. Hughes) sara
that the committee had under consld-
Grafton the second resolution "niet,
had been proposed. and whlch nao
for it's object the elimination or the
submarine as a commerce destroyer.
There were two phases of the resolu,
tion under the amendment proposed
by Mr.. Balfour: The one was the
proposition to amend the exls.,ns
rules of war 80 as TO pfoVlue .na
submarines should not be permitted
to act as commerce destroyers. ana
the other was that the five govern. :.
ments here represented should not
only recommend the adoption OF tne
new rules to which he had reierreo'
but should at once agree among tneni-
selves that they would observe such
rules. w..
The chairman asked whether the
committee desired time to continue
the discussion of this proposltloh-
Senator schanzer's statement.
Mr.. Schanzer said:
az do not wish in any way 70 op-
pose the continuation OF the uiscus,
sion ON the second resolution proposed
by MT. Root, but, as 1 said yesterday
we have had to communicate with
80 Government. Its instructions
have not vet been received. Of course
I wish to make it plain that the la
ian delegation has no opJectioti " ~.
continuation of the debate II the othei
delegates so wish. 81 .h
M Sarraut had no objection 10 tne
discussion proceeding. but w1shed 10
ren,ark that as yet he had been un-
abIa 70 receive instructions from MS
government 1t would be an unprol
table discussion. he thought' Wltnoue
these instructions, when ne hopeu ~
receiye today, or. at the latest TO-
morrow. +h,& II
n,orId certainly be desirable that the
discussion should be continued d.
time when the French and ltailah ueI-
egates were in a posltion 70 .hair
,yi+b defnireness the attitude or their
governments in regard to the SUP
lots presented for discussion anu ne
was sure that the members Oh lhe
committee had no desire IN an! Mas
To proceed with the discussion at sueh
time or in such manner as woulo seen
to make it necessary 70 nave que,
lions presented and debated Wnlch
their colleagues were not really III
nosition to discuss. But, OF COURSE
there were any views Which any VI
the delegates desired to present. tnefe
was opportunity to do so.
Lord Lees Statement.
Lord Lee said: II quite appreciate
the position in which we STAND IN t.e
ah.ance of complete instructions to
two of the most important delegations
here l cannot help feeling that In
the minds of the French delegation
and government there exists some
misunderstanding as to the attltuus
of the British governmen1 IN issa ~
clear up before the French govern
mont commits itself in regard to the
second resolution. l cannot nelp leel-
ing that here we have a unique op
portunity for the French de!esa.lon
and government to reassure the Brlt-
ish admiralty and public opinion IN
regard to this matter. of which nope
thew avail themselves. Our apprehen-
sions in regard to the use OF supma-
rines is deep founded ana. as tne
events of war have shown "ell
founded
7 have no desire to take advantage
of this occasion to reopen the ques-
tion of the tonnage of submarines 10
, be allotted to the different powers.
That would not be in order In DIS.
cussing the present resolution. What
we are considering are the uses to
which submarines may be put. Whlle
the late war showed that rules OF war
were of little protective value when
a nation is in desperate straits, at
the same time these resolutions pro-
posed by Mr. Root would. in our view.
, be of immense value as a deterrent
They would represent the most CIVIL
sized opinion of the world, and any
Country who broke them would be
morally outlawing itself and running
in an intensified form the risk which
iGermany ran in briging down upon
Eher head the active hostility of other
tciviliZed powers. But | want to eX-
plain to our French friends if l may.
why it is that we have these special
sapprehensions which have been ex-
pressed so forcibly in Connection with
France. may say that of course there
is not one of us here, or indeed among
any of my fellow countrymen who
know them. who has not the highest
esteem and admiration both for NJ.
Surraut and Admiral de Bon. NJ. Sur
raut is obviously not only sincere in
everything he says. but the whole spirit
of mis- remarks breathes craftsmanship,
moderation and humapi.E. as to Ad-
miral de Bon. if he will allow me to
say SO in his presence. we all re-
gard him-at any rate those of US at
the admiralty who know of his dis
tlnguiShed record-as the very en-
bodiment of French chivalry and sea
honor and. as l think we have said
officer in the British fleet who would
not be proud to serve under his or
ders if the occasion arose.
Not Clear on Views.
But the difficulty is (and this is
a point that our admiralty and our
naval staff have to face) we are not
clear what are the views of the
French naval staff on this matter of
Inc utilization of submarines in time
of war. 1t is true that the views eX-
pressed by.'eXperts do not always by
any means determine the action of
government: If they did, no doubt,
we should some day be placed in the
position which the late Lord Sails
bury once described when he said,
If we listened to the experts we
should have to put garrison in the
moon to protect it against an in
vasion from Mars But the views of
naval staffS. of the experts, are of
Importance unless and until they are
dIsavowed by the governments which
they serve. NJ. BRAND quoted the
other day in his memorable speech
the atrocious sentiments expressed
by Gen Ludendorff and by Won
Moltke. sentiments which still con-
stitute in his view a menace to
France and one which it is essential
that France should guard herself
against. 1t is, therefore, 1 hope not
improper nor in any serse provoca-
tive if l have to call attention to the
kind of statement. the kind of sug-
Gestion of policy, which is openly
made in high and responsible quar-
ters of the French naval general
staff in connection with the use of
submarines.
"If. as l believe. they do not rep
resent the views of the French gov
ernment if as hone and believe