The Morning Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Okla.) 1919-1927, 1921-03-23
SYSTEM OF SPIES
KEPT BY RAILWAY
Pennsylvania Maintains
Espionage Force, At
terbury Admits
'ARSENALS' ON LINES
Walsh Charges Road SPENDS
$500, 900 u Year on It's
Police and Spies

CHICAGO. March ~. Hrig. Gen.
" ". Nttcrbury. vice president of
She Pennsylvania lines, testified be-
fore mo roHd board today that his
IiilrOHd maintained an extensive
lpl ana espionage system among its
employees ana that u had little
Hrscunlg at various points whore
guns and ammunition were kept"
Tho testimony was given during
cross examination by Frank T..
Walsh. labor attorney. who charged
that the Pennsylvania road spent
100000 a year In maintaining pc
lice ystuma and that much Of this
really was used In keeping up a Hys-
tom OF HpyH and espionage
Mr., Walsh was unable TO question
deeply into tho matter ~ Judge Il.
" Barton, chairman of the board
held that the subject did not come
under tho matters before tro board
Holds up for Minority.
The testimony rovolycd about
General Atterbury'a stand that ne
could negotiate agreements with his
own employee but that no lust and
tcaHouable agreements. applicable to
the entire country, could be written
by anybody. He also maintained tho
right Of the minority 20 voice and
'nargcd the unions with agsuning
20 represent all employees and ssing
coercion in attempting TO make them
Join the union
Attorney Walsh opened his
charges Of spy system on the
Pennsylvania by stating that $500,
900 had been spent Ia 1914 on the
roads police system. General At
tcrbury explained that this amount
covered all protective measures, such
.a.... a.
employees. Under aueaiioning, how
ever. he admitted that the road did
maintain a spy system but declared
he could not ny how much had been
spent on that department.
When MIR walsh asked the wit
ness II the road did not have nit
tie arscnals nt various points where
you kept guns and rovolvera "
Chairman II. NJ Barton halted tho
examination and observed that he
could not sec what this subject had
10 do with national agreements" I"
and declared II was Certainly away
from the inquiry ordered by the
board. q, A. Wharton, labor
ton continue. Attcrbury then an
Swered yes
A closed shop. either union or non.
union, was denounced by tho general
who snid man should have the
right To be or not to bc a union
man.
letter Put In Record.
Mr.. Walsh read into the record n
letter which he said l. V. Goer, gon-
oral manager OF the prnnaylyanla
lines, sent to ALL his supervisory OF.
ficiala.
'St. Louis March 10, 1891.
To all supervisory employees.
In compliance with tho decision
reached at meetings OF all general
supcrintendents IN ST. Louis on
March Z, " is desired that YOU ac-
quaint yourselves with the attitude
of all employees relative to the pro-
posed reduction IN wages scheduled
Tor some time during the month OF
April 1921. It is desired that you
ascertain fully ns possible tho feel
ing of the employees In regard to this
matter, reporting to your superior
the results OF your Investigations
along with tho source of same,
In connection with this proposed
investigation would advise that YOU
use every available means to get this
Information, even rrsorting to defa