The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1921-09-01

troubled by this committee" Mr.. Brown
said. did you make that statement
THAT statement is true"
Mr.. Brown insisted upon knowing
who it was took the message to OMal-
ley from Albany that he would in effect
have immunity from the investigation "
he voted for Hogue. After much beat
ing around the bush O'Malley said 1t
was Edward Stats Luther. political
writer for the Morning Tele graph.
Word From the big Chief"
Grover whalen. Commissioned OF Plant
and Structures. and John Stnnott. sec
rotary to the Mayor, told him they had
messages from Albany. the witness said.
He went on:
Luther said the Big Cher sent
word direct from Albany that there
would be no investigation If put Hogle
over. The vote was tied ave to five
and had the odd vote. / did not know
whom he meant by the big chief.
Luther said he thought Grover Whalen
had bungled the whole darncd thing by
taking it TO the Mayor.
Il was sent for and went to the
Mayors office and said I would bet
that Rockefeller from Brooklyn had
tried to intercede for Hogue."
Now you have rambled for two
hours: will you answer some ques-
tions?" Mr.. Wallstein asked. O'Malley
said he would. He admitted Knowing
William McfIarg, general man" for the
telephone company MIR. Michel and NJ.
Hubbard. all of whom were named in
the alleged forced real estate transac-
ton. which Michel and HIbbard testified
was steered through by the Commits
sioner. 1t was in this deal that Hib-
bard said he split the commission with
OMalleS, giving him $1,000
Did you get the $1,000 from Hib-
bard?" Wallstein asked
no. no, sir" the witness said.
Did McHarg ask you to assist in
getting the property"
Yes. sir"
OMalley said he sent for Michel and
for the written offer to sell the prop
erty and gave it to McHarg He denied
that Hubbard had promised to split the
commission. After relating the cir.
cumstances of the transaction and how
he felt under obligations to the tele-
phone company for having put tele-
phone into his home when a child was
i'll, the witness again denied having
taken any part of the $500.
wransles with Brown.
Taking another tack, Mr.. Brown
asked:
One OF your pet ideas was that resi-
dents of other States should not have
stands in the City of New York so long
as residents wanted them, wasn't IT."
won't let you pin me down to soYne-
think like that. What do you think
a I'm, ara tx.t.. IA.
you are not going to jam me with that
damn stuff"
The counsel tried to examine the wit.
ness concerning Mrs Katenkamp's per-
NIT.
Her husband had been in the market
for thirty years. hadn't he?'
How do ! know it might have been
a million years"
DO you think that was an answer to
the question ?"
"Huh?''
4 move that the answer of the wit
ness, SO FAR as 1t is not responsive, be
stricken out" Mr.. wallstein said.
oh, i expect that. Anything he asks
for. give him now. because ] waived
immunity" o'Malley said.
III this is to be bear garden
think We ought to know II at this time.
II this witness can't conduct himself
with the proper decorsm I think the
of this witness stand ought to
be denied TO him." Mr.. wailstein said.
II don't care whether il is or not" the
said.
Mr.. Halpin stepped forward and said
Leave the witness stand then. I ap-
pear as his counsel. i advise him TO
leave the stand"
You decline to answer further uues-
tions?" Mr.. Wallstein asked
Yes" O'Maley threw back over HIS
shoulder and hurried for the door while
the crowd cheered
Luther contradicts o'MaIIey.
Mr.. Luther appeared voluntarily at
the afternoon session and said he wished
to take the stand. At the outing OF the
City Hall Reporters Association at Bay
side. on July 81 last. he said. he was
approached by OMalley. Until that
time Luther said he did not know the
"OMalley said he understood 7 had
been interested In the election of Hogue
and asked me why I had not come to
him about II instead of Apeaking about
Il to Grover whalen." Luther testified.
Il told him had not known him. He
said II I had spoken to him he mignt
have changed his position I said II
was over and didn't matter
Was that after the election" was
asked.
Seven weeks after"
Did you say TO o'Maiiey ever at any
line that YOU spoke for the Big Chiefg'
II did not"
did you say to him at any time that
K he voted for Hogue the Meyer COM
nittee would not investigate his Office p
II did not the only time I ever spoke
10 him was on that occasion. weeks
after Mr.. Pyrke had been elected and
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