The New York herald., 1921-11-04
UNTERMYER SHOWS
HYLAN FARE ERRORS
LAWYER Attacks Mayor as I@'
norant of Transit Facts and
Supports Curran.
ALSO DEFENDS OWN PLAN
Makes Plea for LockwOOd's
Success to Defeat Elements
Opposing Him.


Criticism by Mayor Hylan vr Samuel
Untermyer's views upon city transit
were answered by Mr.. Unterrnyer last
night in a speech in which he insisted
that Mr.. Hylan knows nothing about
the subject of transit. cares nothing
about it and has been representing him.
self as the champion of five cent fares
for the plain people without any notion
Of delivering the promises be has made
in that respect. but for the single pur-
pose of getting votes.
Mr.. Untermyer spoke at the Lenox
Assembly Rooms, Second street and
Avenue C, and to people who since the
campaign opened have been cultivated
seduiously by Mayor Hylan and his
flying squadron of orators and SPELL
binders.
mo amount OF challenge or persua-
sion.'' said Mr. Untermyer, 'has been
efficacious to drag from Mayor Hylan
statement or explanation of any plan
by which he proposes TO solve this diff
cult problem, except the impudent, pre-
posterous suggestion that he would call
together the 25.0C0 investors In Inter
borough bonds and notes scattered all
over the world that are worth to-day
over $100, ,0o0. 900 on the market and would
invite them to make a bonfire of their
bonds. That was the only logical effect
OF his absurd way of disposing of a
great and complicated problem in about
ten lines.
when the Transit Commission pub
lished its PROPOSED plan and invited pub
lie discussion I was the first man to op-
pose the plan and especially that part
OF 1t that permitted of sliding scale
fare, which l feared and still fear and
believe would mean an increased fare.
"And now comes the Mayor, who had
probably never read a line of the COM
mission plan or of my plan, and who L
know has never understood any more OF
that or any other financial problem than
the man in the moon (and perhaps less) /.
and dares try day by day to deceive the
voters by the malignant falsehood that
my plan provides for guaranteeing
profits to the traction companies when
as you will have seen it does nothing OF
the kind, but on the contrary makes
such thing impossible and does nothing
more than to provide for the actual ex-
penses Of operating the system. which
the city would have to do in any event
permit Of the city advancing a single
penny toward paying the interest on any
OF the securities that may be issued for
the properties unless the system earns
the Interest after providing for the city's
advances; the security holders cannot
get a penny under my plan.
II persistently refused to take sides
in thu. Mayoralty fight until satisfied
from Major Currans uneQuivocal stand
in favor of the restoration and mainte-
rance of the cent fare with free trans
fers. that his election furnished the only
outlet through which to reach this re-
suit.
II am also deeply concerned in the
success Of Senator Lockwood. not so
much on his own account. but because Of
my anxiety that the influences which
are seeking to defeat him shall not sue
ceed and that the usefulness of the
Lockwood committee in its further in
vestigations shall be preserved and
augmented through the well deserved
public approval given to faithful SER
want"
II wish the Mayor felt the same way
about answering questions as / do"
declared Mr.. Cntermyer yesterday, an
swering a series of queries put to him
by Mayor Hylan in his speeches on
Wednesday night. IF so, he would
not have paid over $4,000 in costs for
the privilege Of running away from
that libel suit against the World dur
ing his last campaign, for exposing his
shady transactions with Goslin, the
Black Diamond and other malodorous
affairs, and on which he afterward
refused to go to trial. Question after
question has been put to him concern
Ing his stand on the five cent fare, for
which I am and have been fighting.
but nobody can get any answer"
Mr.. Untermyer. answering the
Mayor, said he did not get electric
light service at his country place for
seven years for nothing. There was a
dispute over a meter that registered
while Mr.. Untermyer was in Florida
and in this city. Finally he settled
for one-half the disputed amount.
Andrew Freedman got out of a con-
tract for the purchase OF the car
barns at Park avenue and Thirty
fourth street by forfeiting $4,000, as
provided in the contract Another story
OF the Mayor he dismissed as a 'ca-
nard that has been dead and buried
for quarter OF century"
''He has veritable passion for at
lacking dead men," said Mr.. Inter
myer OF the Mayor. He promised to
answer the Mayors ''garbled'' state
ment regarding the Untermycr trac-
tion plan in hts speeches.