The New York herald., 1921-12-05
Dali Eireann's Answer Is
Given to Lloyd George in
Downing Street.
FUTURE CALLED GLOOMY
One Ray of Hope Left, but 1t
Is Small-DOubt if Truce
Will Be Extended.

LONDON, Dec. 4 (AsSociated Press)
Premier Lloyd George hurried back
to London from Chequers Court to-
day to receive the report of the repre-
sentatives OF the Dali Eiresnn. who
returned from Dublin. on the latest
proposals of the British Government
respecting the Irish settlement. In
the conference at Downing Street be-
tween the British Ministers and the
Sim Fein delegates, which followed
the Premier and his colleagues were
Informed that the proposals were not
acceptable. Full consideration had
been given TO them by the Dali
Eireann at Dublin, but no way had
been found to reconcile the differences
which had arisen.
The future is not considered promis
ing. The members OF the special com
mittee Of the British Government who
took part in the original conference
are 10 meet tomorrow for the pur-
pose. 1t is believed, of taking some
definite action. Unless an agreement
is reached by tomorrow at another
meeting with the Irish delegates. It il
understood that the Government viii
not submit its proposals TO Sir James
at Belfast OH Tuesday. and if no pro-
posals have reached him by that time
will announce the negotiations ended
There is this to be said about the situ-
alton, that the Sim Fein representatives
are still in London. and Mr.. Lloyd
George has on many previous occasions
shown himself capable of overcoming
what appeared to be an almost insur-
mountable barrier. No official word has
yet been given out that the negotiations
nave ended.
Those present at to-day's meeting
were Mr.. Lloyd George. J. Austen Cham
berlain. Lord Privy Seal Viscount Birk-
enhead. Lord Chancellor. and Sir Rob-
ert 6. Horne. Chancellor of the Exche-
quer. representing Great Britain. and
Arthur Griffith. Robert Barton and
George Gavan Duffy, representing the
Sim Feiners.
alton after the meeting was a very
gloomy one. The Irisnmen submitted
the result OF the Dali Eireann's cxami-
nation OF the latest proposals and
pointed out where they were dnaccept-
able. They had said no more on Thurs
day night than that the proposals re-
quired fun consideration. and had not
yielded any points in dispute.
Premier Lloyd Georges difficulty. ac-
cording TO those in close touch with
him. is that he cannot ask Ulster TO
agree TO any terms which British opin-
ion would not indorse. He Is Arm in
the stand that the allegiance question
cannot be abandoned or camoufiaged.
and this. II is said, has proved the most
irsuperable OF all the obstacles TO a
settlement.
The proposal that the King might be
recognized as the head OF British
federation Of free states, but not as
King of ireland, was objected TO by the
British Minister'S il was declared II
would be secuted by Ulster and would
not be Ineligible TO the British electors.
Ar attempt was made 10 devise some
form of allegiance the Sim Fein nigh,
accept. but this apparently proved un-
successful.
Inc CruN OF PARTITION was dlfnOft
equally serious. The 81 Fein regards
Irish unity as fundamental and was
firm that no proposal aimed at occurring
listers assent should prove a possible
permanent bar.
AS things stand the net result In the
opinion OF the commentators. will be 20
throw the onus OF the collapse on the
Sim Fein. and this will bring back
Premier Lloyd George 20 the position
he assumed before the negotiations
started. that British law must be main
talned and authority sought for drastic
action Meanwhile dominance in the
Irish administration would rest with
the military.
Thus far no agreement has been
reached for any prolonged extension OF
the truce.
BELFAST. Dec. associated Press). .-
At evolutions of the Republican army
at Kireekil. Galway. Saturday. IN the
presence OF che Chief OF staff, Mulcahy
five British officers engaged IN photo
graphing the scenes were arrested by
order of Mulcahy. They we're deprived
of their arms and cameras and films
and then liberated
The protests OF the officers were met
by the reply that their action was q
distinct breach Of the truce.
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