Arizona republican., 1921-11-19
Rate Hearing To Come To End Tn
 Chicago Today
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markets for the purchase of goods it would not have without the rail lines, but you are not giving the interme- diate people any market. You are adding all these interior markets for the benefit of the Pacific coast. MT. Hastings reply to this was: T want you to bear in mind that while we want to help everybody, we want these rates most of all to help the railroads. We are not acting as wet nurse" to the industries of the Middle West" the carriers spokesman pro- posed, saying that in general they are calculated to be merely suffi- ciently higher than the water charges to attract traffic to the better serv- ice offered by he all-rail route.
 Some of the rates proposed, he said, will at that probably not get much volume. An exhibit was sub mitted showing that existing com petition or possible competition of the combination rail and water route to the coast via the Mississippi river and the ports of the Gulf of Mexico, competition which Chicago wit nesses declared is increasing mate rially.
 A combination rail and water rate of $2.50 per 100 pounds on pianos bound from Chicago to San Francisco was compared with the proposed rail route of $3.
 Questions Ship Rates
 Frank Lyon. attorney for the Luck enback and United American Steam- ship lines. questioned the correctness of the ship rates submitted and de- ferred his cross examination of MT. Hastings until he can check them.
 The coastwise shipping interests manifest every indication of putting up a stubborn fight against losing traffic to the railroads under the rates now being asked for. The con- cern lest the proposals will throw rates out of gear in territory as far east as Kansas was shown in the testimony of Charles w. Mitteneorff of the Hutchinson chamber of com merce who expressed the opinion that he can see no adequate reason why under the adjustment sought Hutch- inson should pay a higher rate on canned goods, for example. from Maine than would San Francisco, 1.5s5 miles further west.
 1 In this connection MT. Gartner sug- i gested that perhaps the additional | distance of 1,500 miles might at least be expected to offset the natural 1 advantages claimed by the Pacific ports by reason of their location on ] tllC OCS6I.
 Other witnesses on the stand today included H. B. Hunter, representing a | Duluth jobbing firm who protested that the proposed rates would re- strict its operations in Montana, and | E. Fl. Draper traffic manager of the Iowa Gamers association. Advising with MT. Gartner during his exam ination of witnesses were w. S. Me- Carthy of Salt Lake, president of the Intermediate Rate associations; James Afford, Spokane, secretary, and the dozen or more representatives of Ari- zona, Nevada. interior California Idaho and the other states repre- scented in the association.
 Hearing Ends Today
 The Chicago hearing will be con- cluded tomorrow afternoon, for an other is scheduled for Denver next | Monday. But with Chicago manu- lecturers of articles ranging from chewing gum to steel and pianos, de. sirous or presenting evidence in sup rort of the carriers. it is possible 1 that the examiner will be compelled to return here later to finish talking all the evidence.