New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1921-09-25

Stau4st&'bE CutStS Oh business ofU tIiU
sooner 1T is ratified, in my opinion, tho
better"
At Senator Lodges request, the letter
of the President WAS then read Its
reading gave Senator Pomerene, of
serve that no was glad to have his view
that the Knox peace resolution had net
ended the war confirmed.
at was necessary" said Senator
Lodge. ito make the treaty in such a
way that it would conform to the ,eso-
luton passed by the two houses of
Congress. That was q work of no little
difficulty. | think the Secretary OF
State is to be congratulated on the
work he has done in obtaining such a
treaty as is now before as. 1t seems to
me the United States secures every
advantage which it is necessary to
secure and has not been asked to make
any concessions that arc cmbarrass-
ing"
He emphasized that the treaty Sc
cured for this country all the rights
and privileges under the Versailles
treaty.
Giving an analysis of the treaty with
Germany, Mr.. Lodge said the United
States retained its rights In the Ger
zap. which we're given to the five prin-
eipal allied and associated powers, the
United States included, in Section l.
part of the Versailles treaty. He
said that in the German treaty the
United States refused to be obligated
as to boundaries or political clauses
affecting Europe.
League Plan Improved
He took the view that the treaty
with Germany contemplated such re-
lations with the rest of the world as
this country always had had and very
different relations than those con-
templated by the League of Nations.
Senator Overman asked if this would
be followed by another treaty with
Germany.
Il don't know" said Senator Lodge.
at may be necessary to renew the OLD
consular convention"
Senator Watson questioned Senator
Lodge about the return of the troops
on the Rhine Senator Lodge explained
the American troops were there under
the armistce, that the peace treaty
when ratified would supersede the ar
mistice. and that he did not believe the
treaty imposed Any legal obligations to
keep the troops in Europe. or any
moral obligations. He asserted the
troops would begin to return at once
after ratification.
II think | am at liberty to say that
while the exact tine for complete with
drawal of the flag from Coblenz and
regions now intrusted to United States
troops has not been determined, the
troops will begin to return at once, "
said Senator Lodge. "There will be q
very large immediate reduction in the
force. They will be brought home, /
think. as rapidly as troop ships can be
found to bring them"
Reservations Discussed
He referred to the reservations in
the resolution Of ratification. Senator
Pomereue interrupted to say the sec
ond one was put in TO protect The right
of our nationals the same as under the
pesce resolution and the claims of in
dividuals, such as the Lusitania claims.
Senator Lodge upheld the reservation
which prevents the United States from
participating in the PREPARATIONS COM
mission or other commission without
author ty OF Congress, and said it was
Sound constitutional procedure"
Senators King and Reed pressed
Senator Lodge on the question whether
it would be the policy of this govern
ment to put a member on the repara-
tions commission. Senator Lodge said
he had no authority to speak on this
point, that "a strong argument could
be made for representation on the COM
missions, as this country has great in
terests involved, but that the State
Department had not recommended it
to his knowledge.
81 do not know whether the Admin
istration intends to recommend the ap-
pointment of a member of the repara-
tins commission or not" said Senator
Lodge. what do know is that IN
der the treaty if it is done it will be
by the action OF Congress and the
Executive together"
Reed Questions Senator
Senator Reed asked what rights this
country would have under the Treaty
of Versailles that ought to be insisted
on. Senator Lodge named especially
the imposition of taxes and tariffs or
Germany, a matter in the hands OF
the reparations commission. as some
thing which affected the economic re
lations between Germany and othcl
countries. AS to the overseas posses
sions, Senator Lodge said there was M
thought that this country would tax,
any part of them. 1t would. he said
insist on its interest in zap. 1t had al
interest in the mandates in the sens,
the countries in charge Of them nigh
indulge in legislation hurtful to tn,
United States.
After numerous questions put to Sen
ator Lodge Senator Reed declared h,
was of the opinion that the treat,
settled none of the controversies be
tween this country and Germany, blu
left them to the future. He though
the treaty should have settled thes
controversies or left them to tri
bunal of this country and Germany.
Germany is not free agent. He
hands are tied" said Senator Lodge.
"We win be backed into the Leagu
OF Nations" said Senator Watson.
Senator Lodge did not believe Their
was danger of this.
will be very difficult to avoid bein
drawn into the living room," Senate
Watson continued.
hours and Senator Borah took the foo
TO make preliminary argument agains
the treaty.
Document Declared Involved
when we come to analyze the treat
in conjunction with the Versatile
Treaty." Mr.. Borah said, sit become
the most involved and complex instru
mcnt with which l have ever had t
deal. | do not believe it is possible TO
any lawyer even one trained in the in
depreciation of diplomatic instruments
to tell the American people what on
rights are under this treaty.