New-York tribune., 1921-03-19

rio Lawlor. Later she appeared in
The Century Girl where she is said
TO nave been when she made the ac-
quainsance of Mr.. Stillman. She also
was III the "Ziegfeld Follies'
None of her former associates on the
stage would admit yesterday that they
knew of any intimacy between Flo Law
lor and Mr.. Stillman. Many of them
remembered the young woman. how
ever and most Of them evinced q
rather elaborate Indifference concern
ing her, saying that there was nothing
particularly attractive or unusual
about her that they ever could see
"Mrs. Leedss" Chaufreurs Talk
There were others upon whom Flo
Lawlor, as "Mrs. Florence II. Leeds -
made deeper impression. One Of
these was Grove Thacker, who said he
was one of the chauffeurs whom "Mr.
Leeds" engaged to drive for sMrs.
Leeds" in 1918, when he passed most
OF the summer at her country place on
Long Island
1t was only recently, Thacker said.
that he identified "Mr. Leeds" as
James A. Stillman, the banker. The
recognition came about, he said, be-
cause he happened to find place at
270 Park Avenue, an apartment house
in which Mr.. Stillman also lived.
Thacker said that he saw Mr.. Stillman
come out of the house one day and rec
ognized him at once He hailed the
banker he said, as "Mr. Leeds"
1T Was 4s.r. oeltimau, al r4gnt," said
Thacker, ''and he seemed terribly put
out when I called him Mr.. Leeds. He
gave me the high sign and showed that
he recognized me. have seen him
many times since, and he always gives
me the same nod of recognition. and
occasionally repeats that high sign for
silence"
fhacker said that after he had driven
Mrs. Leeds to her apartment at 81 East
klghtysixth Street late in the summer
OF 1913, few weeks before her baby
was born, Mr.. Leeds paid him his
salary and discharged him. The chauf-
1eur SAID that he received his pay in
cash and never saw. "Mr. Leeds" pay
for ANYTHING with a check.
Herman Carlson, of 354 East Sixty.
sixth Street, became Mrs. Leeds's
chauffeur in March, 1918. At about
that time, he said, Mr.. and Mrs. Leeds
had an apartment at the Hotel Lang
don, at Fifty sixth Street and Fifth
Avenue, as we'll as the one on East
i1ighty-sixth Street. The management
of the hotel admitted last night that
couple giving that name had been
there about that time
When Mr. and Mrs Leeds came out
from restaurant one evening, Carl
son said, waiter came running out
behind them calling that there was
telephone message for Mr.. Stillman
Mr.. Leeds, Carlson said went back into
the restaurant and came out a few
minutes later remarking that the call
was not or him, a remark which Carl
son regarded as superfuous at that
time.
"a few days later" said Carlson, "r
d Frost's, the jewelers.. There the
doorman said to me: Il see you've got
q new boss. He's fine man-that Mr.
Stlllman' | replied that my boss's
name was Leeds and the doorman
laughed at me.
Don't tell me that he said Il know
Mr.. Stlllman we'll enough when I see
him. You're a clever boy, all right;
but you can't fool me-
Taking that up with the telephone
cali, | guessed | was working for Mr.
StilIman, all right. But never
bothered much about it.
Mrs. Leeds was hard lady to work
TOR, very cross lat time, and l quit.
the job one day when we drove down
to Long Beach. I had parked the car
and taken out some rugs, camera
and things they had left in the car.
Then | went to get myself something
to eat. When ! came back the car was
gone. Either she or he had driven it
back to town. | was mad and never
went back. Things were looking funny
to me. l noticed that Mr.. Leeds al
ways paid cash for anything and never
drew check, though l knew he had
~ often drove Mrs. Leeds and her
aunt, Mrs. Glidden, around and her Sis
ter. Mary. used to give her father
old Man Lawlor,' l always called
him-a ride once in while I'd drive
her up to the fat in Amsterdam Ave
nue. where her folks lived, but | never
went in, SO don't really know much
about her people except what l picked
up. She would have quite few chorus
girl visitors at times and then. again,
she'd have nobody e.se but MI. Le~us.'
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