New-York tribune., 1921-10-26
Hines Refuses
To Serve Rail
Men at Hearing. Q.
ssBig Five" Believed To Be
Looking for Legal Fight
To-day When They An
pear Before Labor Board
Six Officers With Stone
His Order to Chairmen to
Disregard Commission
May Start First Squabble

CLEVELAND, Oct. 25 (By The Asso-
cieted Press) THAT the "Big Five"
rsilroad transportation organizat IN
chiefs are expecting legal battle
when the appear before the United
States Railroad Board tomorrow in
Chicago was indicated to-day, when
they sought to retain Walker d. Hines,
former Director General of Railroads,
to handle legal phases which might de-
develop. Mr.. Hines informed the broth
erhood executives that he was net in a
position to represent them and returned
to New York tonight.
Mr.. Hines declined to make any spe-
ciic comment on the situation or to
discuss any specific points.
Stones Defiance May Start Row
Unless the Railroad Labor Board has
changed it's attitude concerning the
necessity of general chairmen of the
five labor organizations appearing at
the Chicago meeting it is anticipated
that one of the first legal squabs'es to
be decided Will be on the action Of
Warren S. Stone, president Of the
Brotherhood Of Locomotive Engineers,
in notifying his general chairmen they
need not answer the Labor Boards
citation. Mr.. Stone announced &c night
that only he and six grand officers, in
whom the authority of the organize ton
is vested. will attend the conference.
Referring to conflicting reports n
kilograms exchanged between Chairmaa \
r. NJ. Barton of the Labor Board and
President Stone, regarding the neces-
slty of general chairmen of the
brothe1hoods being required TO attend
the Chicago hearings. Mr. Stone to-
tered all ever the country from Maine
to California and it would be impossi-
BILE for me to get them to Chicago in
time for the opening of the hearings" "
When asked how long he and his
grand officers expected to rem in in
Chicago Mr.. Stone replied that he
could not answer, adding that no ar
rangem cnts had been made for the re-
turn trip.
Lee Sends for 200 Chairmen
Other brotherh. Cd chiefs would not
indicate whether their general chair
men would be present, excepting w. G.
Lee, president of the Brotherhood Of
Railroad Trainmen, who has ordered
the approximately 200 general chairmen
and grand officers of his organization
to be present and with whem he will
confer in Chicago tomorrow morning,
previous to nee ing the Labor Board.
1t is understood that the other chiefs
and their officers will confer separately
preliminary to the board meeting.
In a statement issued to-day w. S
Carter, president of the Bro.herho cd
of Locomotive Firemen and Enginemen,
said: "The men are determined to
peacefully leave the service of the rail-
roads until q satisfactory adjustment
has been reached" Mr. Carter also said
that "if press reports are to be taken
at their face value the whole power
of the Administrator is going to be
used 70 defeat the strike of the en-
ployecs." adding that mot one word
comes through the press that any in
fuence is being used upon the railroad
corporatic ns."
The five chiefs held two conferences
to-day and discussed final plans for
their appearance before the Railroad
Labor Board. They left late tonight
for Chicago.