The New York herald., 1921-10-28
Irish PEACE OR WAR
CHALLENGE TO TORIES
Lloyd George Puts Alterna-
tive Up to Them After
Mondays Debate.
DEFIES THEIR ATTACKS
Essential That We Should
Know Where We Stand,'
Declares Premier.
ULSTER NOW CHIEF POINT
Lord Chancellor Substituted
for Austen Chamberlain on
British Committee.

Special Gable 70 TsrE NEw YORK HERALD
Copyright, 1921. by THE New York HERALD.
New York Herald Bureau.
London. Oct. ~.
Mr.. Lloyd George to-day played for
high political stakes. He openly defied
the Tory minority in the House of
Commons in it's attempt to wreck the
Governments Irish policy on one hand.
On the other hand, and not openly. he
made just as daring a, play to make
that Irish policy successful. Eoth
moves had as theirs object the making
possible his departure for Washington
ON November 5 and clearing the way
for the debate on the Irish question
in the House of Commons beginning
Monday, in which the Premier will
take prominent part.
Throughout to-day the irish confer
ence stood adjourned without date. But
toward o'clock this afternon. after Mr..
Lloyd George had skilfully PARTED most
Of the Irish questions in Commons and
after he had dared forty die-hard Union
lists to force their motion for lack of
confidence vote after the debate on Mon
committee Of the conference was sum-
nloned in Downing Street. Arthur Grif-
fifth and Michael Collins hurried thither,
where they found that Lord Birkenhead,
Lord Chanceflor--Uister's famous Gal
loper'' Smith in Sir Edward Carson's
army-had been substituted for Austen
Chamberlain on the British side of the
committee.
Ulster the Hot Spot.
This change and the tenor of Mr..
Lloyd Georges answers to questions In
Commons are interpreted generally as
confirming reports that Ulster Is now
the hot spot in the entire situation.
The Prime Minister had asked the
Irish delegates to straighten out the
tangled question Of Irelands allegiance
to the Crown, and the irish cleverly
passed the buck" back to Mr.. Lloyd
George with the remark, What IS Ire
lsnd?' which forced Mr.. Lioyd George
to solve the Ulster difficulty many
stages earlier in the game than he had
counted on.
In view OF to-day's developments the
telegram which Eamon de Valera sent
to the Pope a week ago appears to have
been not SO much an irresponsible out
burst as 1t was a shrewd political ma
ncsuvre to force the burden of settling
the Ulster question on Mr.. Lloyd
Georges shoulders before his departure
for Washington and before the general
question of Irish sovereignty comes up.
The Premier is not finding this easy 10
do. He had Sir Edward Carson to dine
with him at 10 Downing street has
night. and although Sir Edward has
officially retired from politics there IS
nobody In the world who knows more
about Ulster passions than he. and it Is
Ulster passions that are standing in the
way Of settlement tonight.
listers big bankers, traders and ship
builders all along have been anxious for
. settlement, and a knowledge of how
these men stood went far to encourage
peace efforts. But the speech of sir
James Craig. Ulster Premier, denounc-
ng nibbling at Ulster went far to show
Westminster that these big proprletors |
N Ulster do not control political senti-
nent there half as much as do those |
professional organizers OF Orange lodges |
md other agitators.