Evening star., 1921-08-11
GERMAN TRADE WAR
IN SOUTH AMERICA
Hartman Interests and Ham,
burg-American to Fight
Shines Ships.
BY the Associated Press

l3y tne Associated preSS.
BUENOS AIRES, August 11.-Wn-
United American Lines, Inc. con-
trolled by the Hartman interests, ar
rived here yesterday in company with
Richard Peltzer, director of the Ham
burg-American Steamship Line. They
told the Associated Press they had no
definite plans. other than to investt-
gate conditions here and at other
points, which would affect the Harri-
man-Hamburg- American joint steam
ship service between Hamburg ana
South American ports. They will visit
various coast cities and Mr.. Ryan In
of the present Hamburg-American
agents might be replaced by Ameri-
cans.
Shipping circles here are deeply in
terested in the visit Of the two men.
in view of recent reports of the break
burg American Company because or
the operation by SHINES Of heet OF
ships between Germany and South
America in competition with the
Hamburg-American vessels. Men en-
gagged in the shipping trade profess
ping masters probability of new ad-
justments and extended facifties lot
the purpose of contesting with SHINES
for the control of the German-South
American trade.
Trade of Special importance.
Herr Peltzer said last night that the
Argentine trade was of special I'M
portance to the Hamburg American line
because this was one of the few coun-
tries where operating facilities at ports
had not been impaired by the war: AS
a consequence, he declared. the Ham i
burg american company had been apie
! to resume quick contact with the Argen-
-hrO III nSY1Gy
the pre-war standard, was continually
increasing. 1t is expected that Kari
Deters. managing director Of the SHINES
interests, will arrive here soon.
Both Mr.. Ryan and Herr Peltzer dep
| recated last night the idea that com
petition by the SHINES shipping lines
was the fundamental cause Of their
visit to this city. They stated, how
ever that naturally, they would make
| every effort to improve their facilities
and further the interests Of their lines.
Plan to Add More Ships.
There are six vessels at present
operating in the South American service
under the. Hartman Hamburg Ameri-
can agreement. four of them belong
Ing to the United American Lines. In
corporated, ard flying the American
flag. The SHINES company also has
six ships in operation, and both con-
| Germs plan to add others. Both COM
pdIlleS dIe Win DutIa'
Scandinavian and other companies/
Shipping circles here forecast a bit
ter fight between the opposing inter-
ests. although Mr.. Ryan declared last
night he did not think the competi-
tion would be stronger than It has
been since Herr SHINES began oper-
ating his vessels. shipping rates be-
ing described by him as 'ridiculously
low" Mr.. Ryan visited Germany prior
to coming here from New York, and
he and his companion confirmed re-
ports that Herr Shines break with
the Hamburg American line was due
to his setting up competition in South
America. They stated that other
Hamburg American directors insisted
upon his retirement. Mr.. Ryan de-
MED this insistence emanated pri-
marily from Hartman interests, ex-
planning that both the Hartman
directors and those Of the Hamburg
American line had mutually agreed
it was against their common inter-
ests to have Herr SHINES remain.