New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1921-10-05

recommendation of the District At
torney was let 90 with a suspended
sentence.
II recall being called to Governor
Nhlhnan's Office one day, and later on
got message that he had to leave
the Office and was going 10 Albany that
night and wanted TO know if would
not call to see him at his home. He
lived in a Building, on the south side
Of the street from Madison Square
Garden. | called there. He was the
District Attorney OF this county. We
answer every call of the District At
torney or of an Assistant District At
torney because VIC assume it is on pc
lice cases. When ! arrived there | saw
a poor unfortunate drunken man being
led by Detective Al Thomas into Whit
mans homo. That unfortunate drunken
man WIS cX-lnspcctor Murtha, who was
later dismissed from the dcpa rtmcnt
Interview With Whitman
81 was ushcrcd in and sat down in
room, and Governor Whitman said he
wanted 20 speak to me on a very conf
Dental matter. lie asked me If |
wouldn't have a drink, and you know
Governor Whitman is temperance
man. told him yes. but | was watch
ing wha. he was putting in that glass
with his back to nc, and he poured
into it, and it was a large tunl bier
known in the vern acular as schooner,
at least half pint of whisky. was
not fool enough to drink that. +
poured it down inside my coat Gov
ernor Whitman thought would be an
nasv mark and he could pump me.
He told me-, when he finally got
down to business, that he wanted to get
Tammsny leader, and it would be a
great feather in his cap if he could cou-
Wet some Tammany leader of crime.
! asked him who the leader was he
wanted to get. and he said Jimmie
Hagan. I said. What do you want nc
to do?' He said, I want YOU TO 20 to
Hagen and ask Kim to transfcr--or ask
him If he hasn't any two policemen
hat he wants to go in plain clothes
You ask him for them IN the regular
way, ana make application for them, and
Comm 'ssioncr Waldo VIII send them to
YOU Then, he says, The chances are
that Hagen viii start to open up gamh-
hing houses and 90 business with those
two policemen, and between you and [
We can get him ! would be no party
to such dastardly thing as that
l'e 'hen went on to tell OF another
case where woman named Mary
Goodc was arrested on a charge of
keeping a disordcry house and how
she, in company with q girl named
Ruth Bailey, accused a man named
Sicily with having taken money from
them for protection. The inspector
alleged that Nv Whitman, instead Of
prosecuting the women. had Sicily
tried for accepting che money.
Brown Warns Inspector
Senator Brown here asked If Dwyer
Thought he could answer the sugges-
tions of the evidence by telling what
happened under Commissioncr Waldo,
when Ex-Governor Whitman was Dis
trict Attorney" Tie witness insisted
on going on to "show the citizens Of
New York what the object of this COM
mittec is
MIR Brown broke in again: 81 am
not going to exercise my authority for
the purpose of checking you. but if you
are the man which your position should
indicate you are. you would not only
not proceed any further along that line,
but you would apologize for making
the spectacle Of yourself which you
have made in the charges you have
made against man who has nothing to
do with this Investigation, and who
stands high in the state. You are en-
dangering yourself q great deal more
than you already are in"
In telling for the first time the COM
plete story Of the events leading up to
her resignation as Fifth Deputy Police
Commissioner in charge OF welfare work
Mrs. Ellen O'Grady again brought into
the hmelight the name of former In
/ spector Edward P Hughes. She went
over the details of how her two police
women went to the Office of two well
known milIionaires" to arrest them for
alleged immoral relations with two
seventeen -year-old girls. and how they
we're met there by John c. Hackett,
former secretary to Commissioner En-
right, and former Inspector Hughes.
She insisted that while the men were
in the place their arrest was prevented
by Hughes ard Hackctt.
Mrs. O'Grady made public the lette r
Of protest she sent to Commissioner
Enright in connection with the affair,
tie letter giving the names of the two
men AS Seaman and Dempsey. She
said that from then on she was perse-
cuted and blocked Eat every hand s
| turn" BIZ the Commissioner, and that
/ the final point was reached when she
received an order from the Commits
sioner to tell her assistants mot to be
! too strenuous' in enforcing the laws
regarding motion picture houses.
This was shortly after the Catherine
Street fire, wherein several children
lost their lives in a motion picture
house. and she had ordered her welfare
workers to be more vigilant than ever
III keeping minors without parents out
of such places. she said she received
the orders in the presence OF a motion
picture magnate named Sidney Korn
who was sitting in the commissioner
office at the time.
Leonard NJ Wallstcin, associate
counsel, then revealed the matter oil
twenty sight private cars having been
maintained by the Police Department
at the city's expense.
The hearing viii continue this morn.