The Birmingham age-herald., 1921-06-27
MAJOR LEAGUERSI
 SAY NEW YORKSI BOXMEN ARE WEAK
Giants InfieId Would Have Been Greatly BoIstered Up
 By Addition of Groh
By GEORGE CHADWICK

| Copyright, 1921, by The Age-Herald)
 New York, June 26.-Players of three of the clubs of the National league--Chicago, Brooklyn and Phil adelphia-say the pitchers of the Giants are not good enough to car ry the team to the championship. The wish may be father to the thought, for there Is no great lovo among them for the New York team. When ball players discuss champion ships it is before morning practice or in rainy days. The writer has talked with all three teams and also with the players of the Pittsburg and St. Louis clubs on rainy days" Nat urally you cant get the Pittsburgs to stand up and tell how the Giants may win the championship, because Pittsburg has picked out the safety deposit vault where it expects to store the pennant.
 The St. Louis fellows are rather non -committal. Personally, they think that they can defeat the Giants themselves, but most St. Louis teams fill their waking hours with notions of that kind. Frequently they maks good so far as an individual thrash ing of New York Is concerned.
 Some Reasons Some of the reasons why the Giant pitchers are rated low run as fol- lows:
 Too old.
 Not a good curve ball pitcher ln the lot.
 Seven inning pitchers.
 Had too much hard work before joining the Giants.
 Ineffective without using some hal
 Only one good fielding pitcher
 Lose their speed after three or four hard innings.
 Players of most of the teams say that it was all cut and dried that Groh was to go to the Giants ana that everybody in Cincinnati knew 1t. Sometimes players have knowledge about these things that is more ac- curate than the information pos sessed by the league managers
 About GrOh
 Groh at third base would have put a heap of batting force into the Giants. The Giant folks were stumpcd when the decision went against Groh, but couldn't help themselves. No criticism was made of the ruling, because that was one of the agree ments with Judge Landts. He lsn to be criticised. Immediately the ruling was made the infield of the Giants was rent apart and Rapp sent to the bench.
 Had the Cincinnati club dared U sell Groh to the Giants last winter it would have been thousands or doi- lars better off, as things have brokch, because 1t would have had cash in hand and might not have been worse off in the percentage column than it is.
 Cincinnati was dubious about let ting Groh go. The trade, which ex- changed Reuther for Marquard, raised such a rumpus in Cincinnati that the directors of the club decided to go no further, although they were not crazy to pay the salary demanded by Groh "a salary which he well knew he | could get if traded to New York. Reds Must Keep Groh | Now the Cincinnati club will have to hold Groh the remainder of the year. Perhaps by next winter the l Giants will not desire his services | Frisch has been sent over to third base to bolster a weak corner for | the Giants.
 | Remember last year what hap pened after he was able to get pack on the field? The Giants suddenly began to climb and for time threat ened to win the championship. u started with Frisch at third base | If Frisch could fill the weak spot last year, certainly Groh could nave