The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1921-09-30

ground reported in these reports BY Mr..
Suffer-"
Winters said the wires were cut that
night. When Warren Leslie was on the
witness stand on Wednesday he said
that he and Winters had fallen out and
that the latter Is now suing for $4,000
In connection with partnership fee In
the Alters case.
Tells How Wires Are Tapped.
Policeman Suffer was asked when he
learned the wire tapping business. IL
was when he was In the Tenderloin dis
trict several years ago. he said he
told how a wire tapping instrument was
operated. but denied he had operated
one in connection with the Alters case.
James T. Shaw testified he was en-
ployed to shadow DIR. Alters and occu-
pied room In St. George to watch the
Alters residence. He epent much time
there for nine months.
did you have q wire tapping APP
paratus In the room7" Mr.. Brown asked
mo, SIR" the witness said
do you want to tell this committee
you did not tap the wires and take mes
sages off DR.. Allers's wire?"
II never done such a thing"
Ibid you take the wire tapping APP
paratus over and show It to Wintersf'
mo"
Did you tell Winters that you had
not followed Alters but had made up the
reports from messages you heardg
mo"
His pay, the witness said, was about
$40 week with expense allowance.
He followed Dr. Alters on foot and In
cabs and made reports to Leslie's office
regularly. Then he said his real salary
was $40 and the balance was expenses.
He insisted there was no wire IN his
room and that he never mentioned the
case to Policeman Suffer.
''Are you related to J. B. Finnerty?"
my wife's sister Is married to his
son."
Does he work for the telephone COM
panyr
He worked for a railroad the last
KNEW"
Shaw denied In detail all OF winters's
statements.
shaw,s Room Mt st. George.
Paul Sauer leased the st. George
| house. He related how Shaw leased q
room and spent much time there the
spring Of 1919 for period OF about
nine months
SHAW told me he was detective, "
| the witness said.
did he run wire into his room p
Mr.. Brown asked.
yes, SIR"
Can you tell whether that was con-
nected with the Alters wireT"
mo. 1t ran out to the pole about
1 thirty 1--we feet in front of the house"
Did the wire come into the room?"
mo. It was outside: It was attached
to Q hook of the shutter outside the
(, building. There was no receiver; just
little attachment on the wire."
Shaw had friend named Sullivan
| who spent much time there, Sauer said.
After searching the room to find Sui
believed" Policeman Suttcr who had
been asked to stand. was the same man.
He said his wife would know for sure.
| The witness was dismissed to 50 home
| and get Mrs. Sauer, now residing In
Manhattan.
When Mrs Sauer arrived half an hour
later there was q little stir.
While she was positive in identifying
Policeman Suffer as the Sullivan who
had called on her boarder Shaw fire.
quently, she said he had been pointed
out to her after entering the room. Still
she insisted she would have known him.
Although she cared for Shaw's room.
Mrs. Sauer said she never observed any
thing resembling a wireless or telephone
| instrument.
Mary Schacht In giving figures show
ing that the detectives had been paid
more than $1,000 mentioned one item
Of $S1 paid to G. w. Rensallaer and said
she thought he was In the Police De-
partment.
Special objection was made when
Mary Schacht. formerly clerk In Mr..
Leslie's Office. testified that payments OF
expenses in the Alters case were made
by Mrs. Allers's father.
THAT was entirely proper that ne
should pay her bills II he wanted to.
am not questioning that" Mr.. Brown
said.
The hearing win be continued at 10 40
this forenoon.