New-York tribune., 1921-02-25

therefore, done nothing that would OBJ
struct the unhication of north and
south China. We were told that fur
nj hing arms to China served to create
disorder. We stopped that. We we're
told that loans to the government or
to political factions were not TO Cbina's
interest We have stopped that. There
IS talk sometimes that Japan's policy
IS to conquer China Such talk is
nonsense. My program and the rro-
gram OF my government for China is
one or frlendllness and help, with equal
rights TO" ell nations"
saw Count Uchida. Minister Of For
elgh Affairs, in his Office in the min
lstry, | asked him first what Ienan
would regard as satisfactory treaty in
settIement of the immigration question
Whlle the negotiations are under
way between Baron Shidehara and Mr.
MOTIFS IN Washington" he said. at is
qifncult to make auv definite statement
Japan is not disposed to press at This
time the question of naturalization
rights tor Japanese, as that would com
tllcate the situation. We ask now only
Tor the same civil rights, including
land ownership, for japanese subjects
IN america as for other aliens. As for
lHnl MN stion' the Japanese government
VIII ENFORCE the gentlemen's agreement
as lar as 1T is possible to enforce it
There is, of course, nothineIn loose
war talk, and there is no ground for
such talk, but the treatment of jap
anese IN America must be settled be-
1ore our relations can resume their
peasant course. lam confident and
hopeful that will come"
shantung Position Unchanged
l asked Count uchida what the gov
ernment proposed to do about the
Shantung question.
Our position is unchanged" >" he said
We are still willing to negotiate with
China tor the return of the leased ter
rltory, Just as we offered Year go
when Germany turned over its righrs
in the leased territory to US in accord-
ance with the Treaty of Versailles. We
have been and are waiting for China
to, accept our offer, in order to redeem
our promise"
suggested to Count Uchida that it
vas the point of view of the Chinese
that there was nothing to negotiate
that Japan had agreed to evacuate
hlaochau, and that the only procedure
necessary was to withdraw the troops
The Chinese could give assurances to
send in force sufficient to protect the
territory and maintain order immedi-
ately upon Japanese evacuation.
10 this Count Uchida' replied that
Japan could not withdraw without any
assurances whatever as to the future
Of the territory. There were many
questions to negotiate, he said: the
future status OF the city of Tsinetau
the question of a settlement, the main
tenance of order, the status of public
works, the Shansung Railway, for
which a joint company would have to
be formed. That could be only by ne
gotiation. China was only being asked
to abide by its legal agreement, the
agreement of 1915
By that the minister referred to the
twenty-one demands, by which China
agreed to accept whatever arrange
ments were made concerning the Ger
man rights in Shantung between Ger.
many and Japan after the World War
In this connection it should be pointed
out that Chinese public sentiment has
interpreted the agreement made or
these demands as one wre5tcd by force
and demanded its abrogation. To this
Japan has never given consideration.
When | remarked that under the cir
cumstances the Shantung question
would have to remain in deadlock
which meant the continuance of the
prevailing strained relations between
Japan and China, Count Uchida as
sented, adding that until the respon-
sible authorities could summon suf-
ficient strength to meet their legal
obligations there was no remedy.
Will Remain in Siberia ~.
We turned then to the other great
outstanding issue in the Far East
Siberia. l asked whether there was
any prospect of an early Japanese
evacuation there. Count Uchida SHOOK
his head.
Our troops are occupying now only
a very limited area" he said, "the
maritime province and along the Chi
nese Eastern Railway. But so long as
there is danger of renewed disorder in
Siberia, which can spread to Corea and
Manchuria, we must maintain our
forces there"
Count Uchida spoke definitely and
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