Arizona republican., 1921-01-11
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 WASHINGTON, Jan. 10.-Charges that the British government exercises surveillance over American cable busl- ness passing through the British Isles and that the state department had eN- tended It's controversy with the west ern Union Telegraph and Cable com pany to bring in the Cuban govern meut. were made today before a senate committee considering cable legisla- ton.
 Norman IT. Davis. acting secretary of state and Newcomb Carlton. presi- dent of the Western Union. conducted an argument over tbe Cuban allegation when MT. Davis denied it. Chairman Kellogg ended the hearing by question ing Mir. Carlton as to the English practices.
 cIarene A.. Maekay, head of the Postal Telegraph Cable company, told the committee that English secret service authorities were ob- taining copies of cable messages. Mir Carlton expressed reluctance Ia discuss the subject of English surveillance, because "it would make trouble" but at last yielded.
 "Ten days after messages have been transnnitted,r ho explained, "our copies are turned over to the British secret service, which keeps them for a few hours and then re- turns them. No exception IS made and the American official dis patches, like the dispatches to all sther countries to and from Eng land. are included, but l have req Uor to believe that no examination e made of them. l have been as- sured official messages are not even inspected but they are in the nhvsieaI possession of the authori- ...LsI- o&har fy1eesadeS Dc- ing inspected"
 The orders for the surveillance were issued. Mir. Carlton explained, because of dlstarbed conditions in Great Brlt ain znd Europe He intimated othel European countries took more com plece control over American cable mes cages passing through their territor' than did England,
 MT Davis and President Carlton ar -ued with considerable heat over th' state departments opposition 10 th' Western Unions attempted connection with The British cable system In BrazI via tbe Barbadoes cable NIT. CaIi1oi ' declared the state departmeh e. na' made threats to the Cuban govern ,nont~ to prevent the connectloh 6o' t-- tbrourh that island and that Presl S.r. Nenocal had before him the ques .t.- ,,g ,-ovokinc a license granteu lo ,.,d,nv of the Barbadoes cable sg,, '.-rno state department has don ,o+hi,- of the kind," NIT. DaVis saiO and Nr Carlton broke in 10 'i. ch@l ''0'0' ,-o tbis statement as diplomacy. The Western Union neao ,,a'd that American officlais n s,,--arn -.orssentations to the Cuban goVein ,a,,t and Mir. Davis replied thaI --. but the state department hau @u tboritv to take such step ,- prosfdent Carlton asserted us li -.arct,g inc anirnus of the state oe s,s~trnent in prosecuting an Amerlca .o-noratiou" that shipment or cap to his company through Cupan su. sidiarv of the Bell Telephone systei had been stopped by the AlI,eI l,sI iS1 s, government. Secretary DsiNi9 oi9O nied this assertion. Az, ,, sT can stin catch that ship, M carlton interiected. DO understaI ,-ou will do nothing pretudicial 10 q telephone company if they bring
 Keen Out of American Waters Mir. Davis said nothing would done eff the Western Union lays cable surreptitiously In AIneIlcS vvnters" Mir. Carlton announced would "get on the wires and caI' that ship" ,.
 Mir. Davis made more definite h denial that the Cuban government h. been asked to stop the landing of t Rarbadoes cable.
 "Can tell the Cuban governme that?r Mir. Carlton asked.
 "Teu them anything you please ( secretary replied
 sI have been approached by oerta people. suggesting that since the Wes ern Union is making such dirty fig over this cable" Mir. Davis added . would be an easy thing to get Cuban government to block it. I replied that the United States oug not to be in the position of going fore a foreign government asking c ton against an American corporato
 Mir. Carlton announced that "so officials of the United States are dol it," and an agreement was made get evidence later.
 Frederick Roy Martin. acting gC eral manager of The Associated Pre- told the committee this morning q
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