The New York herald., 1921-10-11
what was the erine 2"

what was the crime?"
II don't know myself what the crime
was"
1T was crime? He was convicted"
He was
And who was the other man that
signed the notes?"
Mr.. Richard Gill;"
"And what is his businessg
Il don't know what his business ie-'
He is a professional gambler, Isn't
he?" t~
II don't know whether he Is or is not"
you would not say he was not?"
Neither OF them was a friend OF mine
at the time OF this note transaction"
"And neither one OF them a supporter
of yours?''
'srhey were supporters that year. That
Is why they wanted to be so helpful. ap-
parently, bur they didn't want me TO
know anything about it for the very good
reason that they knew l would not ac-
cept the money II / knew it."
What are the facts?"
"The facts are these: The fact that
the note was made Is correct but as
unders' - II you are interested In
knowing whether that note was actually
discounted. AS to the bad character OF
the men, l know nothing about 1t. AS
far as know. there Is nothing. bad about
them at all. Mr.. Harvey Is out on q
certificate of reasonable doubt. the Judge
saying that his conviction was wrong.
That year when l was running for the
Supreme Court Harvey and Gill were
evidently with me. and their purpose
was, as they told the old man, to let me
know about II after election. Well. they
did let me know about 1t. much to my
dismay."
...But their purpose was to destroy you
by giving you $1,000 Of their money!"
mo; Il was to help me-
"And they wanted to destroy you by
supporting you when they didn't dare let
you know they were giving the money
Mr. Brown asked.
"No; their urpose was to help me-"
Mr.. Connolly said.
"You think they intended that even
though they always kept away from
you ?"i
aWhether they did or not do not
know. But it wasn't kept away, much
to my financial loss"
just Did. Not Like Phillips.
ssFIow long have you known that Jack
Phillips was the agent Of the Lock Joint
Pipe Company in QueensT
u
to It until he testified to it hcre to-day
himself"
-"You never knew that he was the
| agent in Queens for that piper
| IT don't know whether he was agent
| or what he was. A. year or two after
| that pipe began to be used Phillips
showed himself in connection with It."
"You didn't know for year or more
after it began to be used that Phillips
had any connection with itY''
"I didn't know he had any connection
| with 1t at all"
"In fact you knew, didn't you, that
! Phillips was a bad MANI"
"I didn't like hfm very well; no.
you knew that he was a corrupt man.
didn't your"
mo; I'didn't know anything Of the
kind" ~ q
You thought he was all right?"
II didn't. think he was all right"
= what did you think about htm?"
/ II thought about him that he was
mot one of the men who was with our
| party organization and one Of the men
1--WE did not want with 1t. We did not
IKE his method OF doing business or
| playing politics. He was one of the old
ring under the administration that was
/ thrown out when: L came into office"
"You knew at the time Sigretto was
carrying on his contracts in Queens that
\ Jack Phillips was interested with him,
didn't you?'' 81.
81 assumed So" t.s
| "And you assumed also that he was
| Interested with CreemT i*.s
| IT didn't assume anything of the
kind" 70
"You never looked into II to find out
| what part Phillips was playing in rcla-
ton to the sewers In Queens?" s.
mo; the contractors business Is not
my concern"
Ibid you know that Jack Phillips was
generally reputed In the county OF
| Queens to be your bagmanT
mo. II was not and no testimony to
| that effect has been given"
| Mr.. Connolly was questioned al
! length regarding his campaign fund and
| stood on the explanation given first
| When the witness charged that the COM
mittee had given out secret information
| obtained in its inquiry to aid the con-
| spiracy against the Borough President.
| Mr.. Brown waved his finger and said:
! Now look here. i am giving you free
dom to make your statement, but re-
| member this Is not the Board of Estt-
mate, nor the campaign In Queens"
Nor WATERFOWL Mr.. Connolly
added.
when you go to making charges you
better have something to back 1t up."
Mr. Brown said. The Borough Presi-
dent said he had the evidence and read