The New York herald., 1921-08-14
BOXERS FAIL WHEN
JUDGING RIVALS
Average Fighter Has No Con-
ception as to Abilities of
Other Ring Men.
PREDICTIONS GO ASTRAY
Opinions Expressed Previous
to Dempsey-C Carpenter
Bout Cause Mirth.
BY CHARLES F. MATHIsoN.

Although boxers, managers Of boxers
for their opinions as TO the outcome
OF important ring contests. and never
fail to give vcluble expression to their
views. they seldom name the winners.
and the reasons they give for their
selections are amusing.
The writer recently glanced over T.
collection of expert opinions given
publicity previous to the combat be-
tween Jack Dempsey and Georges
Carpenter, and many of them are
rnirth- The first cn the list
was the pronouncement by Joe Choyn-
ski. IN his day a good light heavy
weight, but never noted for judgment
or discernment. He is referred to as
the only man who scored Legitimate
Knockout" of Jack Johnson, which is
quite a reflection On Jess Willard. 1t
is true that Choynski stopped Johnson
in three rounds, but the negro was in
his pugilistic infancy at the time.
Choyinsrxi's Sage Opinion.
When Choynski was asked as to his
opinion OF the outcome of the Dempsey
Carpenter battle he wrinkled his brow
and replied:
The match is just a meeting OF
swingers. Either may win. Victory
WIN go to the one who first gets
home soliJly with one of his swings.
II Is impossible for anybody to say
In advance which one that will be-
As neither Dempsey nor Carpenter IS
a swinger. both being hookers and
straight hitters, and as Carpenter never
had g. chance against his opponent the
value of Choynskis opinion can be real
ized. Dempsey hooks mis- left for Jaw
o. body and shoots his right straight
for the heart o.. face.
Carpenter hooks his left for body or
face and the best blow he has is
straight right for the jaw. 1t was that
kind OF a blow that he landed on Demp-
sey in the second round at Boyle's
Thirty Acres This blow was about the
only consolation the Frenchman got out
Of the four rounds.
It would be interesting f Mr.. Choyn-
ski would inform an eager public how
he came to absorb the impression that
Dempsey and Carpenter were merely
couple of "swingers."
CnOynSkl seems 10 De unQer INC liii-
precision also that Dempsey and Car
pentier are devoid of science. In this
he is much mistaken. So far as Demp
sey is concerned he is not so clever as
Jim Corbec WIZ and not so foxy as
Fftz, but tho present champion In all
around ability 10 ths best heavyweight
In the histoD7 c. tho class.
The mex. exhibit introduces Dan No
Ketrick, catasogued as "a famous man
ager OF boxers for twenty-five years.
who has seen all the great men pro-
duced in that time who said:
-ncK<fricb.s Views.
-arre-tiey VIZ gre Dempsey the
toughest fight he has ever had or
ever will have II Dempsey makes
one bad mistake during the contesl
he IS likely TO find himself in a most
perilous position.
II Carpenter gave Dempsey the hard
est fight the champion ever will have
then the title holders pathway will be
strewn with roses in the future Nc
Ketrick has spent so much time In
France and England that he has got
into the unfortunate habit OF Judging
foreign boxers by their performances
against each other. Jour1ee Is regarded
as. a promising man IN Europe. and
Carpenter once expressed the opinion
the big blond would be the next heavy
weight champion OF France. Both Charley
weinert and Al Reich fattened Journee
In Jig time.
Tim OSuilivan, who srnuggled Les
Darcy to America at a time when he
should have been In the Australian army.
says:
told you a long time ago that
Dempsey was a bum fighter. ] re-
peated that remark eirce his bout
with Brennan. fourth rater. II the
Franchman IS even a good second
rather he will heat Dempsey.
O'Su,lvan's views are those OF n pro-
vincial who knows nothing OF the sub
ject urdev discussion and Is disinclined
toslearp
Both Friends of CouIon.
Johnny Coulon. who once claimed -hc
h~rt- n, tft1e but never ro-reSSed cham