Arizona republican., 1921-10-26
WALKER ]. HINES REFUSES ID ACT .AS COUNSEL FOR RAIL UNIONS AT BOARD HEARING
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 CLEVELAND, Oct. 25-That the "big five railroad transportation or ganizatiCn chiefs are expecting legal battle when they appear before the railroad labor board tomorrow in Chicago was indicated today when they sought to retain Walker D. Hines, former director general of railroads, tc handle any legal phases. MT. Hines told the brotherhood exec utives that he was not in a position to present them and returned to New York.
 Unless the labor board has changed its attitude concerning the necessity of general chairmen of the five labor organizations appearing at the Chi cago meeting, it is anticipated that one of the first legal squabbles to be decided will be on the action of w. $. Stone, president of the Brother hood of Locomotive Engineers. in notifying his general chairmen they need not answer the boards citation. Mir. Stone announced tonight that only himself and six grand officers, in whom the authority of the organi- zation is vested, will attend the con- ference.
 Referring to conflicting reports in telegrams exchanged between Chair man k. NJ. Barton of the railroad labor board and President Stone re- garding the necessity of chairmen of the brotherhoods being requested to attend the Chicago hearings. MT. Stone said:
 My chairmen are scattered all over the country, and it would be i'm no frA 4.. cago in time for the opening of the hearings"
 When asked how long he and his grand officers expect to remain in Chicago. MT. Stone replied that he could not answer.
 Other brotherhood chiefs would rot indicate whether their general chair men would be present. except W. c. Lee. president of the Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen, who las ordered the approximately 200 general chair men and grand officers of his organf- zation to be present and with whom he will confer in Chicago tomorrow. It is understood other chiefs and their officers will confer separately pre- liminary to the meeting.
 Men Determined To Quit In a statement today, W. z. Carter, presidens of the Brotherhood of I,o- comotive Bremen and Enginemen said. The men are determined to l peacefully leave the services of the railroad until a satisfactory adjust mont has been reached" MT. Carter also stated that If press reports are ! to be taken at their face. the whole power of the administration is going | to he used to defeat the strike of the employees" adding:
 | Not one word comes through the | press that any influence is being used l on the railorad corporations"
 Mr Carter's statement in part fol ! lows:
 "A source Of irritation which has 1 resulted in an upheaval among rail | road employees is the general attitude ! of the railroads and of everybody | else including the administra ton ! that upon labor must rest the entire ! burden of getting back to 'normaIcv
 The open shops propaganda oi ! last year made 1t evident to railroads | that there was a conspiracy on the ! part of big business to destroy labor unions, if 1t were possible to achieve | that purpose.
 | Immediately following the return of the railroads to private control 1 leading railroad presidents and others ! hired for the purpose began nation | wide propaganda to convince the pub 1 lie that the high rates were caused by ! high wages.
 On Transportation Act
 The opposition of railroad em- l pIoyes to the enactment of the Cum
 mins- -Esch law was based upon two l principles;
 q. One of the results of the trans l portation act was to increase the sup ! 1 less than S13.000 100000 to almost l S1g.0 000, 900. and upon this inflated value the interstate commerce com mission was required to fix a freight i and passenger rate that presuably would give to railroad owners a re- turn for their investments of between | 5B and 6 per cent Any man con uectcd with the railroad business should know that such an increase ! in capital charges could not be in- cured without disaster. either to the l corpora tions or to the employees They knew that if these railroads ! upon this great imitation of capital l investment were to earn 51s or per ] cent railway employees must suffer in | the end.
 '2. Title III of the transportation act creates a railroad labor board made up of three factions,' the rail- l way employees are represented, the railway corporations are represented and the public is represented thereon If there are three representative oi the railsoad corporations and three l representative of the public, then ali ] that would be necessary to destroy 1 the standard of living of railroad em- 1 ployes would be to create a public | opinion so that the representatives ot ! the public would unite with the rep reseutatives of the railroad corpora | tfons and thereby establish two | thirds majority against labor on the i labor board.
 "A vast number of railroads not ! content with the wage reduction 1 brought about bv decision No. 147 Q. 1 the labor board have demanded revi-