Indiana daily times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1914-1922, 1921-11-30
PASS BUCK
TO DELEGATES
No Headway' Made
in 2-HOur Secret
Session.
BOTH 'ADAMANp
Some Believe Nippon
Playing Game of
Bluff
5y GEORGE r. HOLMES.

WASHINGTON. Nov. 30.-The
naval experts of the United States,
Great Britain and Japan met il Sc
cret for nearly two hours today and
failed to break the deadlock which
has arisen from Japan's refusal to &C
cept the ratio of 10-1O-6 laid down in
the original Hughes proposal
When the session broke up. it was
learned the experts would report to their
respective delegations that no headway
had been made, leaving the principal
delegates themselves to thrash out the
matter
1t Is understood Vice Admiral Kato
chief Of the japanese naval advisers, for
mally demanded that the ratio for his
country be changed from 90 per cent to
20 per cent. This was rejected by the
American experts, Assistant Secretary Of
Navy Roosevelt Admiral r. f. COontz and
Rear Admiral Pratt
MAY TRGE HUGHES
To TELL FIGURES.
1t is expected the American advisers
make public the detailed figures upon
which the American calculations were
based The figures win show that from
any conceivable angle of figuring Japan's
Existing naval strength can not be es-
timated at more than 60 per cent, which
she has been allotted.
The basis of the American program is
stop where you are" in competitive
building
There were unmistakeab1e evidences to
day that the japanese themselves are not
in perfect accord over the 40 per cent
demand. The naval members of the dele
CATION. headed by Admiral Baron Kato.
are demanding hat the ratio be increased.
but the political and diplomatic members
OF the delegation are understood to be
inclined toward acceptance Of the Hughes
program as it lays.
FEELING BETWEEN
JAP DELEGATES
Il is understood some feeling has de-
veloped on this point between Vice Ad-
miral Kato and Prince Tokugawa, the
nominal head Of the delegation. The
feeling is said to have been heightened
last night by Tokugawa's statement to
the American correspondents
In speaking of Admiral Kato's state
ment that 20 per cent was the minimum
Japan could accept TokIgawa said it
represented the admirals personal Opin-
ion and not necessarily the official view
Of the delegation
It was reported this statement. com
ing from T0kugawa, was not pleasing
10 the naval members Of the delegation.
Despite the positive assurances from
Japan's naval advisers that there will
be no yielding on their part. it is be
lieved Japan will not carry her Opposi-
tiOn to the Hughes program to the point
# actually deadlocking the conference Or
"bolting' it If their contentious are de-
MED
SEE BLUFF. OR TRY
FOR PACIFIC TRADE.
The belief is widespread that there is
\ good deal Of BLUFF in the Japanese
stand and that in he final analysis the
NippOnese will yield entirely or else they
will attempt 10 trade their acceptance Of
the capital ship ratio for some other
concessions IN the matter Of auxiliary
ships.
From official japanese sources it was
learned that they would like nothing
better than to agree to the American
program on condition that the United
States dismsntle the fOrtifications in the
Pacific at Manila, Guam and Hawaii. The
maintenance of these Notifications long
has been a source of irritation and sus-
picion on the part of Toxic. and the
belief exists among a portion of their
diplomats here that now is the propisious
time 10 try and raze them
Il can be stated authOritatively, how
ever, that American naval and diplo-
matte opinion is stanchly opposed to
such trade and that If Japan hopes
10 accomplish this she is doomed to dis
appointment.