The New York herald., 1921-10-19
Irish PARLEY WONT
|. BAR LLOYD GEORGE
FROM COMING HERE
Complete Breakdown Of Ne
gotiations Would Not Pre-
vent Washington Trip.
BRITISH TIRE OF DELAY
Winston Churchill to Han
die Matter During Alb
sence of the Premier.
CHAMBERLAIN A FACTOR
Controversial Subjects Referred
to Committees, With Weeks
of Talk Ahead.
CHAMBERLAIN A FACTOR

Special Gable to THE NEw YonK HERALD.
Copyright, 1921, by THE New York HnRALp.
New York HERALD bureau.
london, Oct. Is.
Even complete breakdown in the
Irish negotiations will not prevent
Premier Lloyd George from going to
Washington to attend the conference
for the Limitation of armament. This
statement was made to THE NEW YORK
HERALD correspondent by two members
Of the British Cabinet, one of whom is
member of the committee negotiat-
ing with Ireland and the other is
closely concerned with those negotia-
tions.
These men also said that the British
Cabinet welcomes the Sim Fein's re-
puted desire to come down to brass
tacks before the Prime Minister'S de-
parture, but they added Significantly
that it is the Sim Fein who must
make the move.
I'VE are tired of conccding every
thing" one man said. ut is time 'he
Irish showed some disposition to con-
cede something. They can have peace
or war as they wish. But whicheye er
it is they need not think that either
peace or war in Ireland Is as impor
tant to the destinies OF the British
Empire as the Washington conference.
They need not think that Mr.. LLOYD
George will give up the greater for the
lesser duty"
Indication Of Purpose.
While both of these men may be said
to represent the more beilcose section
of the Cabinet on the Irish question.
their words are extremely significant In
view Of Premier Lloyd Georges own
carefully hedged statement in tho House
OF Commons to-day In response to
question from Herbert Asquith. Politi-
cal observers likewise believe that the
personnel OF the British delegation as
now officially announced assures the
presence of Mr. Lloyd George for the
opening OF the conference.
While Arthur ]. Balfour admittedly is
capable OF handling the routine work OF
the British representation as he did at
the League of Nations meetings, the ab-
sence of any other first class figure on
the list is interpreted as a sure sign
that the Prime Minister intends to do
most OF the work himself. even II he
has to return to Washington several
times during the course of the confer
ence.
IT hear" said another Cabinet mem
Der. that the Irish expect to get more
from Mr.. Lloyd George by forcing de-
cisions before his departure for wash
ington. hear they even expect TO IN
duce him to abandon Ulster. That Ia
useless. We want peace just as much as
they but they cannot force us on that
ground. In my opinion. they have al
ready been given too much rope"
Irish Farley in Committee.
Meanwhile the Irish conference is
proceeding In detailed committees. The
meeting again of those committees with
Winston Churchill. Colonial Secretary
indicates that he will be the member
OF the Cabinet to handle the matter
while Premier Lloyd George Is away.
Austen Chamberlain, however. will also
be n powerful factor at these councils
II is the belief in we'll informed Irish
quarters tonight that these detailed ne
gotiations have not yet reached the
point WncTe IL CAT We ediu tiiae SA'.'~t
side has either conceded or not conceded
anything. According to this interpreta-
ton, everything Of a. controversial ma
ture so far has been referred TO COM
mittees and 1t may be several weeks be-
fore these committees are ready to re-
port.
It is still reported to be the Irish
determination to give the negotiations
n definite trend before the departure or
Mr.. Lloyd George and with to-day's ex-
pressions by Cabinet members indicat-
ing eagerness for such n development IL
would be safe TO assume that the Irish
negotiations would reach climax
within the next fortnight. But Lloyd
George himself and certain elements IN
the Irish delegation are reported stu to
be adhering to the original plan TO per-
feet all the details before trying to settle
the great controversial questions OF
sovereignty and allegiance.