New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1921-08-31

vas asked 10 go IN.
Q.-What was said in that converse
ton? At asked the COMMISSIONS
II what he wanted to say to Mr.
Michel pcrtancd to the stands in The
market or to the building los Vese.
Street. He SAID that ne wanted tt
talk about the building. Then I sale
you don't need Mr.. Michel ! am tn,
man to talk to. The building is in my
charge" He said "All right we don't
need Mr.. Michel them Mr.. Niche
went out.
Q.-And you remained? A.--And
remained.
Q.-What did you say to Commits
sioner O'Malley? Al asked him-ht
told me that he was under obligations
to the telephone company; they hac
done great many favors for him anc
they had asked him to sec if he coulc
get possession of that property fol
them
Q.~At 1oS vescy Street? A.-los
Ncsey
Odd he say who was representing
the telephone company Ayes.
Q.-Who? A.-Mr. McHarg.
Odd he say whether or not he had
been previously acquainted with Mr.
McHarg? Al think he said Mr.. Nc
Harg had done number of favors for
him. asked Mr.. O'Malley if he in
tended on account of his position. TO
put the screws on Mr. Michel about
his stand, and he said no, he had no in
tention Of doing any such thing, but he
did want to do something for the tcle-
phone company if it could be done.
"All right | said. 1--WE will make the
telephone company pay little more
money than it ought to pay for the
IN "A 1y,fv 4,1y l.
time, because have got to find another
place for Mr.. Michel" 1t took several
weeks before we arrived at a definite
figure. At that same interview said:
I'VE will make the telephone company
pay little more money and | shall
charge little more commission, and
you will get your share Of it,"
O'Malley Got Price Agreement
@ What did he say to that? Ale
didn't say yes or no to it.
Dwell, then, did you finally fix
price? Ayes, $4,000.
Q.-Was that stated in writing? A
1t was.
Q.-From whom to whom? A.-From
the Michel company to me.
Q.-And what did you do with that
writing? A. gave that letter to Mr.
OIL show you the $4,000 check and
drawn to cash or j. B. Hibbard? A.
| did
Q.-What did you do with it? A.
Mr.. Michel and | walked to the bank
and got the cash for it,
On what form was the cash. A.
Six $500 bills. He gave them to me-
Q.-What did you do next? Al
walked from the bank to Mr.. O'Malley's
office.
gid you see Mr.. O'Mallcy? A.
Odd you have a conversation with
aim? Al did.
Q.-What took place in that CONVEX
sation? Al simply told him thac we
lad signed the contracts and | had re-
,eived my commission, and | thought
lie was entitled to three of the six
bills | showed him.
Odd you give them to kim? A.
did.
Q.-Three $500 bills? Ayes, sir.
Q..-Anything else said in the con-
A.-No, we had general
ak
Q.-As two business men might? A.
Yes, sir, and smoked couple of good
,igars.
Q.-And then you left? Al did.
Q.-Have you seen him since? A.
les. sir, several times | met him on
Broadway.
Q.-Talked with him? Ayes, sir.
Questions by Senator Walker
Under questioning by Senator Walk
II Hubbard said the deal in his opinion
lad nothing to do with the market.
This was entirely matter of get
ing more money out of the telephone
company, isn't that it?' asked the SEN
ltOr.
That is right" said Hubbard.
The Senator again queried: at was
our idea to make them pay for it and
'ou offered to split this commission
With a man whom you had never met
'cfsre"
That is right" replied Hubbard.
Senator Brown, counsel for the COM
nittee. then pursued the questioning:
Q.-Why did you ask the Commits
Toner if he was going to put the
crews on to Michel; why did you ask
i'm that? A.-Well. I suppose on ac-
cunt Of the publicity there was about
lands being taken away at that time;
lso that Michel was afraid his stand
would be taken away There was so
much talk about stands being taken
way at the time that he feared some
hing
Q.-And you took pains in dealing
18th O'Malley to deal with him in a
'ay so that your clients interests
'ould not be imperlcd? A-That is
light.
Q.-You felt it matter of prudence
, inquire Of O'Malley if he was going
, use his official position to put the
crews on to Michel? A-That is
ight
Q.-You did that in the discharge Of
our professional duty? A.-That is
ight
Q.-And you felt under obligation,
y reason of conversation you had
ad with Mr.. O'Mallcy. at that time to
AXE over the three $500 bills and give
1em to him, after you received the
5000? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And when you did that, you did
lat in the discharge of what you re-
arded as an obligation? Al did
Q.-And you performed it? Ayes,
Split of Loft Money"
Upon further questioning by scna-
'r Walker Hibbard said he gave the
oney to O'Malley because che was
ailt that way ."l generally divide
p commiss on with a man who hclps
g" he added
ut was just your innate tendency to
o't when you got soft money, and in
us case you picked on OMalcy ~
,ked Walker.
Hubbard replied that was So
According TO Lugers story ahout