The evening world., 1921-03-29
De FORD TELLS OF
UNTERMYER PLAN
IN BUILDING CASES
Says Lockwood Counsel Had
No Basis for Belief Of Am
bition for Office.
.SCALLAN TELLS STORY.
Did Mot Have Any Intent to
Reflect Upon Justice in
Review of Sentences.

witness stand before Supreme Court
Justice MoAvoy and read n statement
in answer TO the testimony of Samuel
Unternyer given yesterday In the
contempt proceedings against Robert
o. scallan, Ruel P Smith, William
Z. Beazell and James w. Barrett Of
The Morning World staff
Mr.. DeFord gave his version Of the
conversation with Stanley Richter,
Mr.. Untermyer's son-ln-law, which
proceeded DeFord's designation as
Special Deputy Attorney Generhiy in
tho building material mems cases
arialng from tho Lockwood Commit
tee investigation conducted by Mr..
Untermyor.
Mr.. DeFord denied that Mr.. Inter
myer had any basis for reference to
his, DGford's, ambition 10 become
District Attorney. He had such an
aspiration when he was an assistant
prosecutor and still has It, Mr.. De-
Ford says. but declared that he never
had mentioned II 20 Stanley Richter
more than six times.
He aaad that on one occasion he
mentioned 90 Mr.. Richter that ne
supposed a would be bad policy for
him TO challenge Mr., Untemyer's ID
will. Beyond a luncheon and per-
haps cigar or two, Mr.. De Ford
said, he is under no obligation to Mr..
Untermyer.
He said Mr.. Untermycr told him
Mayor GIylan was a crook and he (De
Ford ought 20 go to Mr.. Hearst and
tell him 80. He proceeded 10 read a
letter 10 Mr.. Hearst, but II was ruled
out by Justice MoAvoy, on objection
by Slegfried Hartman, representing
the office of John b. Stanchfield, for
the defendants.
Mr. De Ford said his friction with
Mr.. Untermyer began when the
Hearst newspapers, for which he is
attorney. began attacking Untermyer
and tho Lockwood investigation, after
Mr.. Untermyer hal called Mayor
Hylan to the witness stand ana had
attacked him with series of ques-
tions "full OF insidious attack and
dirty inuendo." He said wnen he
took over the work assigned to him
by Mr.. Untermyer the evidence was
a mass OF valueless material and he
had TO 30 ahead and build 1t up.
He said when he took back his
letter OF resignation from Mr. Inter
myer he did so ''as matt of
courtesy, and only because did
not want to throw It in his face"
He complained OF Arrogant treat
ment' at the hands Of Mr. Unter-
myer, and described hdm as general
isslmo" OF the Lockwood investiga-
ton.
This description was objected TO
by Mr.. Hartman. but Stanley Richter
interposed on MIR. uhternysPs be-
half, offering to accept the title.
Justice MoAvoy Smllingly remarked
that Il meant the supreme chief"
and that was what Nh. Untemyer
appeared TO be.
stand. MI Scallan testified in his own
behalf.
lAr. ScallAn definitely and explicit
ly diSclaimed any intention or inolin-
alton to reflect upon the court in the
story complained Of. He said II did
Mt appear to him that there was any
rejection upon the court in telling OF
what appeared TO be an arrangement
between representatives of the in
dicted material men and a rOpresen-
tative from Mr.. DeFord TO allow tho
defendants TO escape with a fine upon
pleas OF guilty.
Mr.. Scallan told how he was as
signed to the Lockwood committee
story on the day In question and
incidentally was told to try TO fnd
out what lay behind an announce
ment by Deputy Attorney General
Berger n the afternoon papers, that
he woul, insist tina the prosecutors
should lomand jail sentences in all
the Lockwood committee cases.
He said Mr.. Beazeil told him that
Stanley Richter had received a let
ter from Mr.. UnterInyer, outlining a
plan that had been uneaTthed. by
which the masons' building material
men were 70 escape with fines by
pleading guilty.
Scailan explained how the hllns of
demurrers and withdrawal of the
pleas of not guilty previously made
by the masons' building material
dealers had passed unnoticed and the
only explanation no could get at the
time was that they must have been
hled In chamber.
Al the close OF his testimony Seal
Ian made "A complete and explicit ris-
avowal OF any contempt OF the court.
Navy CenaOrshlp on wireless Lifted.