The New York herald., 1921-10-15
RECORDS IN ERROR
ON HYLAN'S MOTOR
Meyer Committee Brings Out
1t Was Listed as Tour
ing Packard.
ACTUALLY A LIMOUSINE
Car No. 109 Is Owned by Har-
riss, but Official Paper
Doesn't Show It. y

Further evidence was received yester-
day by the Meyer committee In It's ef-
fort to find out how many automobiles
Mayor Hylan has There still seems to
be confusion concerning the official rec
ords dealing with the subject.
Harry ]. Lutters. chauffeur for the
Mayor. said he had driven a Packard
car for the Mayor since September 1917,
1t was new car. purchased about that
date by the Mayor the witness said.
and its license number Is 46. and never
has been supplied from city garage.
The witness said he knew nothing about
the other cars said to be assigned to the
Mayors office.
John A. Parker. police lieutenant in
charge Of the division Of transporta-
tion. of the Police Department, was
questioned about the official records.
Questioned By Downing.
''Who owns car l12?" Senator Dow
Ming, Tammany member. asked. Parker
said It belongs to the Police Depart
ment and Is assigned to the Mayors
office. 1t is a Packard limousine.
rs there Packard touring car as
signed to the Mayor" Downing asked
Yes. there is," the witness replied.
isn't that the car, 112, that was
asked about few minutes ago?"
ZIP Is q Packard limousine-no. my
mistake. Packard 112 Is touring
car"
Then there is another card you have
produced from the original records
which refers to Packard car No. 1882"
THAT Is 108."
Does that card show who Is the
owner Of the carr"
1T does not
what does It say?"
ut says 1t Is assigned to the Mayors
office
"And why do you carry It with that
notation?'
Because I am not interested in the
car at all. 1t does not belong to the
Police Department. and carry all those
cars as private cars
TT was not bought by the Police De-
partment?"
THE car was bought for the Mayor
or October 3, 1913, at a cost of $6.500.
by the Mayors office, John ]. Glennan."
"You made the notation Mayors pri-
vate carr" On your record did you note
who the owner Of that car was?"
mo. sir, l did not"
well, any car that you know Is not
purchased by the Police Department
you carry as a private carr"
Private car"
Accounting for Error.
Because it was not owned by the De-
partment and therefore you did not make
the same complete record. and 1t also
accounts for the error. listed as touring
instead of limousine?"
"Yes, sir that Is mistake"
There is an original record showing
the garage history of a car numbered
by you as 109. Who owns that carr"
John A Harriss. loaned to the Police
Commissioner
HAS this car. 100, ever been used by
or assigned to the Mayor or any one in
the Mayors office?"y
mo. sir, not to my knowledge"
"And is this the number that THE NEW
York HERALD has carried as the Mayors
car. with total charges Of $500 against
N?'
Eyes. sir. It is"
$50 that any misunderstanding grow
ing out of your official records results
from the fact that any car not pur-
chased by the Police Department Is car
ried by you as a private car. even though
It is. in fact. used by the city through
some other department or Officer"
"Yes. sir"
"But there Is nothing on this paper 20
Harriss." Elon r. Brown said.
II have stated that didn't know that
until Commissioner Enright testified"
the witness said.
Examined ON Exhibits.
Leonard wallstein asked about the ex-
hibits supplied the committee by the
Police Department regarding private
owned cars. Parker said the record
Packard car 100 assigned to the
Police Commissioner was an error.
ITO whom was that Packard 108 as
signedT
TT belongs to the Mayors Office. This
Is a private car. He has 109-E-11 listed
as Mayor Hylan'e."
IT don't see any 10s-E-11-yes, I have
II now"
(which shows that II is an error. Be-
cause ELL Is the Police Commissioners
car"
And that should have been indicated
as assigned to whom?'
ELL belongs to the Police Commis-
eioner. Packard 100 to the Mayor, 1913
to the Police Commissioner. They are
both errors"
How should they be?"
According to the records they are err
rors."
How do the records show them to be?"
"The records show 109 to the Police
and 10S to the Mayors Of
fice."
"Just reversed"
Eyes. It is a mistake. an error"