New-York tribune., 1921-10-27

Lee. of the trainmen, said his or
ganization's ballot was based solely
on the July l wage cut, and declared
he had withdrawn from the brother
subscribe to their ballot. The language
of the joint ballot, he said implied
other questions were involved.
The other leaders defended the joint
ballot and asserted that the other ques-
tions referred to all had q bearing on
the frame of mind which led the en-
rlcvees to vote for strike.
The questions OF time and a half for
overtime and of 4 general revis on of
schedules were included in the discus
sion preceding tho strike question
proper on both the joint ballot and
that of the trainmen, they said. While
all the union chiefs maintained that
the strike question was technically
taken on the July wage cut, all ad-
mitted that the other quest ons prob
ably would figure in any settlement
lea ling to calling off the strike.
Questioning of the union leaders
brought out that vote against the
strike had been returned on twenty
three roads by the conductors, on
fourteen roads by the trainmen and
on three roads by the fremen. Cashen
said the switchmen on every system
voted in favor of striking. Stone. after
heated protest against furnishing
the information ito his enemies"
agreed to obtain it from his office in
Cleveland.
The hearing WAS marked by frequent
clashes between members of the board
and Stone. The engineers grand chief
charged Chairman Barton was not Civ
ing the unions a fair hearing. after he
had attempted to introduce the names
of seven roads which, he said, violated
orders of the board. The chair ruled
against the evidence.
Stone Assails Board
"1t is not our purpose to sit here
and listen to discussions going back
into the history of other decisions, or
the merits of decisions that we have
rendered" the chairman said. "lf you
want to be heard on that YOU may be
beard at another time and place"
Il want to call your attention to the
fact that Mr.. Hooper just finished ask
ing that identical question of Mr.
She ~nard. and Mr.. Sheppard replied to
st. Stone retorted.
"Nioletions of schedules by these
different roads have been going on for
months. and that has led up to the
frame Of mind that you find these men
whom ! represent in.
"1f we cannot find redress in this
board, then | want to know where the
10000 engineers can find resief. If we
are to be prohibited explaining the
feeling OF our men, then do not see
that there is anything more for me
TO say"
Stone finally was permitted to read
the names of the seven roads, on mo-
tion of Walter l.. Momeniremen, labor
member OF the board. The first two
were the Atlanta, Birmingham e. At
lantic and the Missouri g. North Ar
kansas both of which are in the hands
OF receivers.
Violation of Act Charged
Don't you know our decisions we're
overruleo by the Federal courts on
those roads 2" Chairman Barton and
Mr.. Hooper interrupted in unison.
Then to carry it to a logical con-
clusion, all a road needs to do is to go
into receivers hands and the trans
portation act is null and void" Stone
replied.
The other five roads named by Stone
as violating the boards decisions were
the Denver & Salt Lake, Arizona G.
New Mexico, Nevada Northe ern, Detroit
g. Mackinac and Peoria Railway Ter
mina.
Stone then attempted to read a list
of thirty'hree roads on which he said
wage reductions had been placed in
effect in vio'ation of the transportat'o on
act but Chairman Barton interrupted
with the observation that they were
all short ines and not parties to the
present dispute.
They are under the jurisdiction of
this board, however" Stone retorted
Anyway. as understand it, the
trend of your argument is criticism Of
the board" sad Mr. Barton.
Says Roads Stirred Men
II beg your pardon" Stone replied.
II said nothing of the kind said the
action of the carriers had inflamed the
minds OF the men, as the result of
which the strongest strike vote ever
polled by this organization was had.
That is what | meant to infer"
After the day hearing Mr.. Cashen
IN statement to newspaper men said:
Nothing transrired at the day meet
ing to change the situation, so far as
settlement is concerned.'
1t was decided the board announced
at the convening OF the night session,
that no further representatives Of the
unions would be called upon to e~tify.
Mr. Hooper announced that the board
considered it had sufficient informa-
ton from the labor chiefs, although
they might be recalled for some addi-
tional questioning.
Railways Case Presented
T. De Witt Cnvler chairman of the
Association of Railway Executives, act
ing as spokesman for the rail officials,
then presented summary of events
leading to the present crisis, so far as
the railway executives were concerned
Mr.. Hooper inquired if any road in
tended to make any change in wages
or rules without taking the matter to
the board.
NO. sir,' Mr.. Cuyler answered.
HAS any change in rules or wages
been put in effect in any class of en-
ployees without bringing it to this
board or by agreement with it's en-
ployees?" Mr.. Hooper asked, directing
his question to the executives GEN
orally.
B. A. Worthington, president of the
Cincinnati, indianapolis e. Western.
said he had held a conference with his
men on working conditions.
I'VE were unable to reach an agree
ment and on August we discontinued
payment of time and one-half for over
time" he said. 1--WE suggested that
after the conference, if any contro~
versy arose, we would take the dis
pute TO your board.
IF the board decides that question
against us we will pay back pay from
August l, when the change went into
effect"
willing to Restore Wages