The New York herald., 1921-12-30
UNION EVILS CURBED,
UNTERMYER LEARNS
Labor Leaders Agree to Ad-
nit JOurneymen and APP
prentices Freely.
PENALTIES ABANDONED
Incorporation of Locals to
Be Demanded Only as
Last Resort.
LEARNERS LIMIT LOWER
$500 Entrance Fee to Be Cut
to $75, Payable in In
stallments.
LEARNERS LIMIT LOWER

Leaders of twenty-one labor organi-
cations whose practices have been
under investigation by the Lockwood
Legislative Committee on Housing met
with Samuel Untermyer, counsel tc
the committee, yesterday to consider
reforms and notifications in union
constitutions and bylaws as demanded
by the committee. After the confer
ence Mr.. Untermyer and Patrick j
Crowley. president of the Building
Trades Council, said distinct progress
had been made.
In some cases the constitutions and
bylaws of local unions are drafted by
the international organizations. These
locals have agreed to make changes
subject to the approval of the inter-
nationals.
The labor leaders. practically with
out exception. agreed to these demands
by the committee:
That they open their membership
books to all qualified members of
their trade.
Der of apprentices allowed to any
trade
That the practice Of penalizing
employers for alleged infractions of
union rules be discontinued.
Apprentice Limit Lower.
On some points Mr.. Untermyer con-
ceded something to the union leaders.
He agreed to a reduction of the maxi
mum age limit for apprentices entering
a trade from 25 to 20 years 1t was
formerly 16 years and IS years. The
union heads said that under the 25 year
age limit older apprentices could not
be expected to be satisfied with appren-
tees wages and should be entitled to
more than the apprentice scale.
Mr.. Untermyer compromised also on
the maximum initiation fee required by
the unions. The Lockwood investiga-
ton showed that in some cases. notably
that of the Marble Polishers' Union, the
initiation fee was $500. except for an
apprentice. The committee held that
this tended to restrict the number OF
men entering the industry.
Mr.. Untermyer asked for a maximum
fee of $50 in all unions. He agreed.
however. to a maximum of SIS on con-
dition that payment be permitted In
easy installments and that the applicant
be permitted to work al his trade after
making his first payment.
Some of the points on which agree
hoe 20 he ahaI aeF he
bricklayers and the painters. The brick
layers. 1t was learned. have strong OBJ
jections to abrogating the Jumping"
provision of their agreements with the
contractors This means that the brick
laying contractors also must supply all
material for the job, such as plaster,
sand. cement, &c. Their argument in
the main was that such a provision as
sured them against working for an ire.
sponsible contractor.
Painters Defend Five Day Week.
The painters organization, headed by
G.. G. Lussier and with Morris Hllquit
as counsel, attempted to convince Mr..
Untermyer Of the necessity of five day
week In that industry owing to the sus-
ceptibility Of painters to the effects of
lead fume poisoning They had large
had to agree that the actual number OF
lead poisoning cases were few and that
lead was used almost exclusively on
outdoor Jobs.
That an early settlement Of some OF
still disputed points is expected was in
dicated by the appointment of a sub
committee of five labor men to meet
with Mr.. Untermyer next week
In a statement Mr.. Untermyer en-
phasized that the committee would ask
only for legislation requiring the labor
unions to incorporate as a last resort
and following refusal of the unions to
meet the committees requirements. He
said that the reforms were in the inter
ests Of the unions as much as the pub
lie. and that Incorporation should only
be made compulsory in the event of the
absolute refusal of the unions to discon-
tinue their Illegal practices. Since they
have shown every disposition to do so.
Mr.. Untermyer said he did not appre-
hend the committee would be driven TO
recommend compulsory incorporation.
Mr.. Unterrnyer made his position on
this point clear to Hugh Frayne, New
York representative of the American
Federation of Labor, who opposes in
Untcrmyer Conferecs.
The labor leaders who met with Mr..
Untermyer in the afternoon and the
unions they represent were
A. Craze. Sign Writer'S Union; Sam
uel Sauibbs. Granite Cutters Associa-
tion: G. c. Lusser. Painters. Paper
hangers and Decorators: r. Roeshel,
Cement Concrete Laborers' Union
Thomas McMurray. Painters Union: i.
NJ Wilson. Painters Union: Michael j.
Colleran. Plasterers' Union; J. II. Muir
ply. Tile Settlers Union r. j. Anslow.
Journeymen Stone Cutters: Andrew G.
Burke, Boilcrmakers, Union.
Also J. McGeeney, Boilermakers'
Union; Elmer Gobler. Painters Union
w. r. Quinn, Iron Workers Union
John Moran, Iron Workers Union r.
Corbetta, Cement Masons Union will-
lam Myer. Cement Masons Union; j.
Patrizo, Mosaic Workers Union Joe
Laznovsky. Marble Poishers' Union. NJ.
Horowitz. Modelers' Union Patrick j.
Crowley, Building Trades Council
James Fogarty. Bricklayers Union.
FINED AFTER MAKING ARREST.
Patrolman Albert Broglie OF the
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