The New York herald., 1921-11-01
TO BE DEMANDED
blled Last Alternative,
YES and Taxes Should
Not Be Risked.'
Oct. 81 ASSOCIATED Press)

the Government for initial
& Irish negotiations was voted
IN, 439 to 43.
The Premier. alluding to the nego-
tiations, in the course Of the debate
said:
Il cannot conceal from the House
the possibility that ! may have to
make the grim announcement that it
is impossible to settle without danger
and dishonor."
He said that If the conference
broke down the first thing the Gov
ernment would have to do would be
to ask the House considerably to
strengthen the forces Of the Crown.
He also assured the House that no
agreement was possible without the
sanction of the imperial Parliament.
Mr.. Lloyd George said he had re-
ceived guarantees that no arms would
be imported into Ireland during the
truce.
NO lutOTm0t1Oh On EAHsCyb-
SO far as the Unionist protest was
designed to draw information on the
proceedings of the conference, 1t
failed. The Premier gave no infor-
nation on what has been decided
CT is being discussed regarding Mr..
de valera's claim to independence
and the rumored attempts to arrange
concessions from Ulster for united
ireland. These remain in the realm
of speculation.
One piece of information the Pre-
nier did give. II was that unless
something happened within a few
days, presumably ir the conference. to
solve the unsettled status of Ireland's
two governments, steps would be
taken to give 10 the Ulster Parliament
the powers necessary to make it q
real Government.
Mr.. Lloyd George declared that the
lime to question the negotiations was
when he first proposed them to the
Sim Fein by public correspondence
last July. Much of his speech was
devoted to holding before the Com
mons the prospect of renewal OF
guerrilla warfare If the conference
broke down.
"Honorab outlet Sought."
The Premier pointed out the cost OF
renewed warfare and the reluctance OF
the country 10 incur greater taxation
and ask moro young men to risk their
iivcs He asserted the Governments
resolve to refuse concessions which
would weaken the empire, but to ex-
plore all paths to an honorable peace
and emphasized the fact that any
agreement must be ratified by Par
lament.
The motion OF censure was proposed
by Col. John Grctton. Unionist. and Sec
onded by Rupert S. Gwynnc. No con-
spicuous leaders spoke in its support.
Those who did laid much stress on their
protests against negotiating with men
who had denied allegiance to the Crown
ard who gloried In their Association
with murderers ana assassins."
Arthur Henderson. in behalf OF the
Laborites. explained tina, that party IA
vored the negotiations. although oppos-
ing what he termed the previous policy
OF repression and retaliation.
Further Truce Forcsecn.
Ex-Premicr Asduith supported the mo-
tion. but deprecated the suggestion that
renewal OF the war was the only alter
native II the conference failed. Some
lrishmen held that n breakdown Of ne
gotiations might be followed by = con-
tinuance OF the truce pending further ef-
forts to diplomacy.
The comment OF one veteran parlia-
talk OF further war was not intended ms
a warning to the Sim Fein but 10 Par
Lament not to harass those engaged In
the negotiations.
The Prime Minister In opening said
that very grave issue has been raised
as to the proceedings conducted by the
Government and that II was quite clear
that there was a section In the House
who had given very loyal support TO the
Government in the main. but who were
full OF misgivings with regard 10 this
particular action. II was true there had
been breaches OF trust. When evidence
had been Forthcoming that arms were
being Imported into Ireland the Govern
n1cnt received distinct understanding
that none should be landed during the
truce.
Dealing with the complaint OF Capt.
Continued on Pare Eight.