Evening star., 1921-12-20
Republican President SIurs
Envoy and Gets Shouts
of DisapprovaI.
YELLED HINT CAUSES
SENSATION IN DAHL
Five Women, Divided in Views,
Among Speakers at Today's
Lively Treaty Debate.

John MflrOy. speaking i'm the dahl
eireann this afternoon I'm support
of the treaty with England, de.
manded and received from Eamon
de Valera and other opponents of
tie treaty their promise to submit
the question of ratification to q
vote "f the Irish people.
| DUBLIN, December 20.-Just be-
fore adjournment of the dali eireann
for luncheon today, after session at
| which debate on the Anglo-Irish
treaty had been continued. an angry
| exchange occurred between canon de
Valera and Arthur Griffith over the
question of the dali holding a brief
| session at the afternoon meeting to
hear a statement by the minister Of
! defense.
Griffith asked if the people were to
be fooled by more private proceed
ings"
1t was unworthy of Mr. Griffith to
suggest that the dali desired privacy,
the republican president responded.
Mr.. De Valera said something else
had been brought back from Down
lUS street DeSlQeS the treaty.
Mr.. Griffith demanded to know tie
meaning of this amid loud cries of
withdraw" addressed to Mr. De VAL
era.
Women Divided I'm Views.
Five more members of the dail, in
cluding the first woman to be heard
AIRS. Kate OCalIaghan, widow of
the assassinated lord mayor of
Limerick-presented their views on
the treaty at the morning session.
Two of them spoke in favor Of the
pact and three against it.
Mrs. O'Callaghan concluded her ap-
peal for rejection of the treaty by
urging those members who had not
4 yet made up their minds how to vote
TO follow the lead of the women of
the dali.
Finian Lynch, one of the secre-
taries of the London delegation.
argued strongly for the treaty. He
declared the issue before the dali
would be TO decide between the
treaty and "a compromise which is
less than a republic"
Mr. Lynch's mention of compro-
mise was taken as A reference to
President De Valera's alternative
proposals, which il WAS announced
dali when Mr.. De Valera moved re-
lection of the treaty.
Bases Support ON -Four Points.
Secretary Lynch said he supported
the treaty on four grounds 1t gave
an Irish army, it gave evacuation by
the British troops, it gave control of
finances, and. best of all, gave con-
troll over educat ation
] 1t was an insult to the men who
signed the treaty, declared Lynch.
to say they had/been intimidated.
Todays session of the dali opened
with Brien O'Higgins in the chair.
replacing Prof. John MacNeill
Mr.. De Valera, addressing the dali
at the outset, claimed there could be
no question of ratification of the
treaty by the dali, which, he declared.
could not ratify the pact in the sense
of making it legal instrument. All
the dali could do was to approve or
,iisapprove, he asserted.
DE Valera Moves Rejection.
The republican president said he
would later move that inasmuch as
the articles of agreement for the
treaty between Great Britain and
Ireland, signed in London, do not
reconcile Irish national aspirations
: and the association of Ireland with
the community of nations known as
the British commonwealth, and can
. not establish lasting peace between
!, the peoples of the two islands. the
Gail eireann makes to the British the
following proposal:
NJ na Nola he
posal, nor was it made public at this
time. but copies of the document con-
tanning it We're circulated among the
members when the motion was made.
Mrs. Kate O'Callaghan, the first
woman member to speak, opposed the
treaty.
, .The women of the dahl will vote
for principles. not expedients." she
declared.
John r. Buckingham, deputy for
Wicklow and minister of asheries
spoke in opposition to the treaty.
saying the people were being STAN
Griffith said, marching into the Brit
ish empire with heads up, but with
hands up, he insisted.
.Nation's Burial Service"
Mr.. Buckingham added that Mr..
Lloyd George had mesmerized the
Irish delegates as he had mesmerixed
former President Wilson. He declared
the London conference was a burial
service over the grave of the Irish
nation and that there would be no
firing party.
Applause was given the declaration
of p. Hogan, speaking for the agree
ment,, when he said:
"Not q man who votes against this
treaty but hopes it will be ratified"
MIR, Hogan said that il Independence
were secured the form of it was a
secondary matter. He was support
ing the treaty in the interests of the
. rank and file of his constituents. II
the Irish people were weary of war,
as Mr.. De Valera has said, and wanted
peace. they were entitled to have 1t.
The meanest men in the dali were
. going to vote against the treaty, and
vet hoped 1t would be ratified.
Sean T. O'Ceallaigh. Sinn Fein rep.
resentative in Paris. opposed the
treaty because it made the Irish west
Britons" He also objected to the par
tition clauses.
Explains Views More Fully.
. Mrs. O'Callaghan, in declaring the
vota of tho women. would he cast for