New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1921-07-21
ALI Sllasll Fund
Evidence to Go
To Grand Jury
Hirshfield Uncovers Extra
Checks i'm Police Lobby
Expose and Asks District
Attorney for Full Inquiry
Refuses to Hear Lusk
Tells Him He Broke Faith;
Senator Walters Denies
Pay for Aid He Gave Bill


into the slush fund raised to grease
through the Lusk bill making the rank
of detectives permanent and increas-
ing their salaries:
/. Assistant District Attorney Joab
A. Banton announced that Hirshfeld
would turn over the matter he had in
hand for submission to the grand jury.
.. Senator Clayton r. Lusk was in
formed by Hirshheld when he called at
his Office yesterday to testify that he
would not examine him now Hirsh-
field also charged Lusk with breaking
faith with him.
8. Lusk's predecessor as majority
leader of the Senate-J. Henry Wal
tiers, late of Syracuse, but now New
Yorker-testifed before Hirshtield that
he had assisted the detectives, but had
received no money for it.
L. Checks in possession of Hirsh-
field show the Detectives Endowment
Association used s1,726 in twelve days
in Albany, and of this sum $1.400 is
unaccounted for
Meyer to Ignore Hirshfield
). Senator Schuyler NJ Meyer said
that the joint legislative committee
would not attempt to supersede Hirsh
fields investigation if he was con-
WINGED Hirshfield was not using white
wash.
In making this announcement Sena-
tor Meyer also declared that he would
not reply to the last letter of Com
missioner Hirshfeld, calling the COM
mittee's unexpected session on Monday
night, at which Senator Lusk was ex-
amned, travesty upon justice
81 shall not pay any more attention
to Mr.. Hrshfeld's letter" said Meyer.
Il have no intention, nor has the COM
mittee, of superseding his investiga-
tion so long as we are convinced that
he is not sidestepping or trying to
whitewash any one. If he should, why
this committee will make a thorough
Investigation of the whole case"
Senator Meyer was asked why Leon
ard NJ. Wallstein. associate counsel to
the committee, who conducted the ex-
animation of Senator Lusk at the Mon
cay night hearing, did not ask him and
mis- detective friend, James J. Gegan,
why they had not gone to the Distric ct
Attorney of Albany County more than
three months ago when they had their
alleged talk about the detective bill
slush fund.
Didn't Think of Them
Meyer replied that he could not say
why this and several other questions of
like nature had not been asked.
~ did not ask them because the
questions did not occur to me until
after the hearing was closed" added
Senator Meyer.
sri ~
committee regretted that Senator Lusk
did not testify more completely on the
quality and the quantity Of the silver
ware the detectives presented to Mrs.
Lusk after the close of the session so
as to avoid the circulation of all sorts
OF stories which are now going the
rounds. Detectives examined yester-
DAY by Commissioner Hirshield, ac-
cording to the latter professed not to
know what the silverware consisted of
Checks Cause Surprise
The testimony of the detectives re-
garding their expenditures as shown
by checks drawn upon the account OF
the Detective Endowment Association
was surprising. These checks, totalina
S1,764, were drawn during a twelve
day period in April to the order OF
cash in most instances, and no vouch-
ers or other memoranda were produced
to show how 81 400 of this sum was
spent.
None Of this $1,764 was used for the
silverware given to Mrs. Lusk, as this
was not presented until late last month
Detectives testified before Hrshfelt
that SO far as they lnew PRACTICAL
every cent of the SILICA was spent il
Albany, but how, they said, they coulc
not say.
This $1,764 brings the total amour
Of money known to have been raiset
by the detectives no to $28,264 1t i
believed that considerably more tina,
this was raised to be paid over in tn,
event the bill became law.
In addition to the two checks, on
for S4,0G0-which was not used-an,
another for $4,000, which was cashe,
and turned over to Jack Kleist, the lob
byist, it was learned that third Ger
titled check for $4,000 was given t.
the detectives. This, like the $500
check, was returned to it's drawer whel
Mayor Hylan vetoed the bill
Amazing, Says Hirshfield
Yesterday Commissioner Hirshfiel
called the two financial officers of tn
Detective Endowment Association in a,
effort to learn just how much none.
the association spent in lobbying TO
the Lusk bill and to find out how mucI
was paid for the silverware presente,
to Mrs. Lusk by the detectives.
Ihelr testimony was amazing" sal
Hirshfield. They knew, they insisted
practically nothing. And more amaz
ing still were the methods of bookkeep
ing, which showed less
The witnesses were Detective
Charles b. Koerbacher, financial secre
tary of the Detectives Endowment AS
ISOLATION, and William Daley, treas
urer OF the organization. Both swor
that they did not know how much wa
pasd out Tor lobbying purposes or TO
any otner expenses on behalf of tn
Lusk Dill The treasurer swore he ha
no BOOK OF records which would sho,
dlsoursements, and depended on tn
checka issued by the association t
snow what was paid out.
Checks produced showed that O.
April 8, the day before the I.usk bill
was INTRODUCED, 1915 was issued nv th
association. Five hundred dollars wa
IN one check and was given TO Dc
tective Edwin j. Burns, president q
the association. Burns on the stan
iast week testified only to putting in
o'il Tor $S6. This, it turned out YES
tetday, was not paid until Nav s. Tn
witness Daley said that he did M
know how Burns disposed of the $50
On April Burns received mir
cnecS foi S75. This was for exnense
~ nprii is Burns received q fourt
sum. This was for $500, the purpos
n OF winch was not revealed.
Wired for 500