New-York tribune., 1921-09-29


wires hroughts into the window and
these little instruments were clampcd
on to it,
Q.--.And did they tell you anything
about the attendance that they gave
to the wire tapping after 1t was made
Who said he did not do it? A.The
little fellow, Shaw.
O. The hrothcr-in-law of Sutser ?
! A. Yes, sir.
Listening In for Year
Odd they show you over how
long period this had been done
A. Well, l knew in general way.
About year,
Q.-Now, did you have anything 70
do with drawing contract for the
Park Court Realty Company about the
transfer of that property? Now, the
contract of sale was between whom
and whom? AL don't remember the
seller
! Q.-Do you remember the purchaser ?
A.--Yes, sir
o. Who? A.--lnspector Dwyer.
Q.--Now, do you remember the con-
tract price, Al think it was about
Sl54,00
| Q.-And do you emember what was
paid on it? Al the time the con-
tract was signed there was check Of
either $4,000 or $4,000, as | recall it.
Q.-Who passed it over? An
! spector Dwyer.
Q.-He was present? A.-Ycs, sir.
Q.-And he passed the check over?
A.--Yes, sir.
Q.-To the attorney of the seller?
A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-Was there any more paid that
l. af .y
contract? A.-Well. the total was a
little over $4,000, as l recall it, within
thirty days
Q.-And a mortgage given for the
balance? A.--Yes. sir.
Q.-Did the contract provide to whom
the property was to be conveyed? A.
Well, Inspector Dwyer signed the con-
tract.
Q.-And did it provide for convey
ance to him? A.---The contract did,
yes, sir.
Q.--About what date was that.
Al can't tell. 1t was last summer
some time, year ago--last fall in
1920.
Property Conveyance Made
Q.-Were you present when the con-
veysnce was made? Al was.
Q.--And to whom was the convey
ance made? A.--Willam Leslie
Q.-The father of Warren Leslie?
Al have understood So
Q.-And did you know to whom it
was later conveyed? Ayes, sir.
To the Park Court Realty Company.
Q.-And that corporation was incor-
porated in your office? A-Yes. sir.
Q.-Were you one of the incorpora-
tors? Al learned so afterward..
Of the directors for the first year?
Al learned so later on. I wasn't
aware of the fact until some time later
Q.-Now, the directors, as the record
shows. were Warren Leslie, Byram L.
Winters and Mary Schacht.
O. say, you had no interest in the
concern? A.-No, sir.
Q.-You hadn't paid anything into
the concern? A.-No, sir.
Q.-Do you know what was paid to
these detectives for their services :?
A.--Except what Mr.. Leslie told me-
Q.-What did he tell you? A.-Sev-
erty dollars a week apiece
Q.-Did they tell you whether or not
rented? A.-Yes, they did--one of
them-yes, sir.
Q.-Did you ever. talk with Inspector
Dwyer in relation to it? A.-Never
Q.-Was Inspector Dwyer a frequent
caller at the office during this period :?
Al would not say frequent; oc-
casional.
Q.-During the entire period? A
Well, | think so. He came in and out.
Odd either of these men tell you
to whom the telephope-t tapping instru-
ment belonged: A.-They did not.
When Mr.. Leslie was questioned he
insisted it was private litigation
and that anything "in the Alters case
cannot have any possible connection
with the investigation of any depart
ment in the City Of New York, or any
officer thereof"
Meeting With Inspector
~ am not so sure about that came
back MIR. Brown. Leslie said he was
president of the Court Martial Board
in the Police Reserves and that he met
Sutter and Inspector Dwyer in his
capacity as a reserve official He ad-
mitted hiring Shaw on Suffers recon-
mendation. At this point he attacked
Winters's story as vicious and without
foundation and referred to Winters's
suit against him now pending. He de-
MED that Suttcr had anything to do
with the case or that he gave him any
money.
He said however, that both Suffer-
and Inspector Dwyer were frequent
visitors to his Office in connection with
police reserve work, and that Sutter
brought to his Office charges preferred
against reserves. He said Winters was
a friend of his for twenty-five years,
| and after going away for twelve years
came back about two years ago, when
he again became associated with his
firm. Leslie said he paid Shaw lib
| orally for his work, but couldn't re-
member how much
Sutter said on the stand he was now