The New York herald., 1921-07-16
.DEVALERAANDCR
CONFER SEPA PARATELY
With LLOYD GEORGE
Irish President Departs
in Good Spirits to Return
Probably Monday.
HE MAINTAINS SILENCE
Sim Fein Headquarters
Later Announce Ulster
Premier Is Not Factor.
UNITED IRELAND BASIS
Sir James Summons Three of
His Cabinet, Evidently to
Pass on Proposals.
UNITED IRELAND BASIS

Special Gable to THE New YoRK HERALD.
Copyright, 1921, by THE New YORK HERALD.
New York Herald Bureau.
London, July -. J.
The second Irish peace talk to-day
between Premier Lloyd George and
Eamonn de Valera, president of the
Irish Republic" sitting alone. left both
in good spirits and determined to meet
again, probably Monday, and equally
determined to say nothing about what
transpired at the conference.
Following this conference with Mr.
de Valera, which lasted an hour and a
half, Sir James Craig. Premier of Ul-
ster, had long private talk with the
Prime Minister this afternoon which
lasted two hours and half. and what
ever differences in opinion exist he is
solidly with the Premier in the policy
of keeping silent. After the confer
ence, Sir James sent word to Belfast
for three members of the Ulster Cab
met to hasten to London. and the sup
position is that the Ulster Govern
ment will be called upon to consider
some more or less definite proposal. Sir
James Craig before seeing the Premier
expressed himself as hopeful of good
results
The official communique read: "A
further conversation between Mr.. Lloyd
George and Mr.. de Valera took place
this morning in Downing Street and
will be resumed at later date. prob
ably Monday"
Mr.. de Valera seemed brighter after
tod ay's interview. He smiled. doffed
his hat and chatted with newspaper
men. He said he was sorry. but it would
not be wise for him to say anything
at this stage OF the negotiations.
Irish Republican Statement.
Later. however statement was
given out at the Irish Republican head
quarters which threw illumination on
the view south Ireland takes of Ulster
1t said:
THE present discussions are designed
to find. IL possible. suitable ground for
holding a useful conference-one that
Il
conference.
so far as the Dali Eireann's repre-
sentatives are concerned what Sir James
Craig says to Premier Lloyd George Is
of no moment. Mr.. de Valera invited
representatives of the Irish mnorities
to confer with him in Dublin. Sir James
failed to appear. although he previously
had talked with the President. The
southern Unionists did appear and ex-
pressed their Views.
mfr. de Valera considers the party of
Sir James Craig thus was represented.
because the southern Nationalists con-
slider the southern and northern Union
lists of the same clan and the same pol
Icy
by his failure to appear Mr.. de
Valera considers Sir James forfeited
whatever right he might have claimed
to being an element In the situation as
between England and Ireland--in other
words. it is with Mr.. de Valera he ultl-
mately will have TO deal. Only in Irish
internal politics uoes Sir James. In Mr.
de valera's mind. continue to be a
factor"
Greeted by Large Crowd.
Mr.. de Valera was again sree.ed with
cheers by a large crowd outside the
Downing Street stockade. which waited
patiently and more quietly than yester-
day TO give him another denomination
when he departed.
There is every reason to believe that
to-day the leaders made sufficient
progress In getting the preliminaries
slfted and that the way is practically
cleared for the three part conference
which II is reported in well Informed
quarters probably viii be held early
next week
The Prime Minister'S plan of having
intimate talks with the different leaders
has removed the danger arising from
diplomatic delicacies. Perhaps the most
encouraging sign Is the absence of any
hint of a deadlock or cutting off Of
negotiations The fact that Sir James
Craig has summoned several members
of the Ulster Cabinet to London is
taken to indicate that the Ulster Pre-
nier Is now facing definite proposals In
the conference between Mr. de Valera
and Premier LLOYD George and that
these involve pledges which Sir James
Is not willing to pledge entirely on his
own responsibility. though there is
nothing TO indicate that any insur-
mounta Bile obstacles have arisen
After uaitfnr for Mr. de VaIora e.