The New York herald., 1921-12-11

At any rate, we had a reunion in Lon
| don. He and l lunched one day in the
| famous old "Pinafore" room overlooking
the Thames Embankment. where the
Zepp bomb almost wrecked the Obelisk
back OF the Savoy. Ralph Blumenfeld.
who used to be THE New YORK HERALD
correspondent in London and IS now edi-
tor of the Tory Daily Express. was
there. as was A. G. Gardiner, editor of
the thoroughly Liberal Daily Netos.
There were also Sir Philip Gibbs and
Philip Kerr Mr.. Kerr came in late. and
| he had practically nothing to say. But
he listened to Martin Glynn. and Martin
Glynn was in the top of his form that
day with his chat on books and old time
political personalities. There was never
word on Ireland. When 1t was over l
got an enthusiastic yes" from Kerr for
my request for this Sim Feiner Glynn"
to be let into the galleries OF the House
of Commons then closed on account OF
Sim Fein threats. to hear the German
reparations debate the next day.
A Cigar with Lloyd George.
The next day also 1 had arranged to
take Mr.. Glynn at 6 80 o'clock in the
evening to see Archbishop Mannix, who
was then staying in the outskirts OF Lon
4
of Commons and sent in word to him
ne came hurrying TO the door with
mysterious smile.
you've got to go out and make my
peace with the Archbishop" he said.
II can't leave"
He refused to tell me why and re-
fused TO let me tell Archbishop Mannix,
but asked for an appointment with the
Archbishop the next day. That was
easily arranged and Mr.. Glynn finally
got out of the House of Commons close
to O'Clock in the evening. 1t devel-
oped that Carl w. Ackerman of the
Philadelphia Public Ledger had been
urging some Cabinet friend of his to
get the Prime Minister to see Mr.. Glynn
and that the Prime Minister had done
so. Mr.. Glynn's account of the inter-
view as he gave it to us that night was
something like this:
well, l remembered one of Mr.. Lloyd
Georges finest perorations. which l
quoted to him, and he remembered
something about a speech I made nom
mating Mr.. Wilson the second time, and
perhaps because there's a bond of SYM
pathy between all speechmakers he Of
fered me the friendly solace OF cigar.
81 won't take your time smoking
your cigars, Mr.. Prime Minister l told
him.
WELL he answered, I'm going to
smoke. Won't you smoke with me!
and naturally a man doesn't refuse an
invitation like that from the Prime
Minister of England.
From cigars we got to tea, talking
all the while of everything but Ireland,
and finally he asked me about that.
"T suppose the Prime Minister or
England wants the bald truth and not
flattery?' 1 suggested, and he nodded
vigorously.
"'Weu, sir said, I can't ever be-
lieve that there will be true UNDER
standing between the United states ana
| England until the irish question S
| settled
"I then went on to tell him OF what
knew Of American sentiment on the
question. l made 1t plain to him that
represented no one and no organization
but was simply a country editor OF some
experience and of Irish blood. 1 told
him something of the way all Americans
os Irish blood were contributing TO the
Irish funds. He seemed to know gooo
| deal of II, but he listened to 1t all eagerly
and finally he said
Mr.. Glynn, 1 think you're right, and
7 want to tell you that there Is nothing
within honorable limits l wont do TO
settle the Irish question. The one way
to settle 1t is for the Irish leaders 10
get about the round table with us and
thresh out our differences at close range.
I'll tell you now, and you can tell the
Irish leaders, you can tell your news
paper friends and you can tell your
Irish friends in America that l will meet
Mr.. de Valera or any of the Irish chiefs
without imposing conditions on my part
and without exacting promises from
| them. 1t may take long time. but
that's the only way we can ever thresh
| tkis out
Stuart Bears the Message.
| THAT'S going further than you have
ever gone before In Offering to meet
them. isn't it?' l asked.
"Tt is,' he replied, but 1 am con-
vinced that it's the only way to settle
| it,
I'VE talked the situation over in more
detail and 1 left convinced that IL in
| telligent good will, human sympathy
| and a real Celtic understanding OF the
Irish problem could settle 1t the settle
| ment lies in Mr.. Lloyd Georges hands. "
The next day Mr.. Glynn took this
word to Archbishop Mannix, and much
| to every ones surprise that supposed
| frebrand hailed the news with delight.
| He urged Mr.. Glynn to go Immediately
TO Dublin and talk to De Valera. But
later we all agreed that perhaps 1t was
best for Mr.. Glynn not to appear so
| definitely I'm the negotiations at that
time, and while Mr.. Alderman stayed In
London hurried over to Dublin on the
| night train.
| 1t was a bad time In Dublin just then.
You felt on the streets always as IL
some one was drawing a bead on you.
And when you looked over your shoulder