Arizona republican., 1920-07-11
Allies Consider Speech Offensive.


 It is the custom of the conference for speakers to remain seated, but Herr Shines stood up. He said:
 T stand because I want to look my adversaries in the eye.'
 This was the opening sentence of what the allied delegates considered a rather offensive speech. Premier Dela- croix of Belgium, who presided, on one occasion reminding Shines that his language was too forcefui.
 pr. Simons said afterward to the correspondent he regretted Stinnes had used such violent and aggressive language. Shines said in substance:
 "The military protocol which the Germans were requested to sign July ' will increase discontent and disorder in Germany. It will make it more difficult to maintain our coal produc- tion, and will not help us to increase it.
 Tt is all very well for you to tell us that unless our coal production and deliveries to you increase you will oc- cupy the Ruhr. I may tell you that if you should expect, by occupation of the Ruhr. to obtain more coal than you now do, you would find yourselves mistaken. Not only would you not get more coal, but less, because the miners would refuse to work. They are doing now all they can with the meager food with which they are supplied.
 Claims Men overworked.
 Notwithstanding exhaustion from lack of substantial food, they work three hours extra twice weekly so as to increase production. You gentle men cannot. by an expression of your will merely give an order and increase our coal deliveries. That is why, it practical results are to be obtained, there must be an agreement among experts.
 M. MiIIerand said yesterday that
 the Germans were accorded the riqht to speak as a matter of cour- tesy. "l claim to speak as a mat
 ter of right. and whoever is not af-
 flcted with the disease of vic tory" Here M. Delacroix inter rupted and said:
 '-The object of this conference is tc arrive at a peaceful solution and must therefore ask Herr Shines not to be provocative"
 Shines, resuming said:
 This conference is the ear through which Europe could hear the facts. That is why 1 wish 10 speak. Without cooperation nothing can be done. That is why I wish to speak as a matter of right and not one of priv ilege. 1 cannot dispute Millerand's figures regarding Germany are quite wrong Germany has not produced 79 percent of her pre-war coal and ir is not true that 65 percent of the Ger man iron industries are at work. Say Mine Destruction Not Wanton T recognize that the French coal situation is serious and although the Versailles treaty was forced upon Ger many every German employer and workman must strive to help France as many of her mines have been de- stroyed although this destruction was not wanton, but one of military neces- sity.
 Germany is reproached for not liv- ] ing up to her coal obligations under the treaty. As matter of fact before the treaty was signed Germany had voluntarily supplied France with con- siderable quantities of coal The Ger mans now recognize that this act was dictated by an unwarranted sentiment. | '"The separations commission is now demanding 29.000 900 tons per annuna. It is impossible to comply. The Ruhr l output in May was 220.000 tons per day. It has now reached 2s5,0O0 tons. l this on the basis of three hundred working days per annum.