The Mena weekly star., 1920-05-27
vON PADST TO PLAN 4 GERMAN REVOLT
Chief of Staff of Ven Luettwitz Re vealed Counter Revolutionary Plan to- French
 Official.

Paris, May 20.--Captain von Pabst, Chief of Staff of General von Luett- witz, revealed to me in an interview in April l, 1919. practically all his plans for the counter revolution which was started in Berlin last month.
 met von Pabst in the Hotel Eden, facing the Tiergarten. He is man of about thirty-five, full of energy, slight and supple. with the ruddy com plexion of the soldier whose only in terest is in his profession. He has a broad, high forehead and crafty grey eyes.
 Captain von Pabst started by a dec laration that Russian Bolshevism was the greatest menace to the peace of the world and that it could be fought only by a military combination of Germany and the Entente Powers. If this were not done Germany would be forced, sooner or later, to turn to- ward Russia and come 10 an agree ment with Lenine.
 We know" said von Pabst, what the Bolsheviki desire They have only one objective-to make Germany the battle-ground where the great strug- gle between East and West would be fought to the end Their one hope is to bring us to their side and then re- commence on the Rhine the gigantic combat which has just terminated Their one hope is to bring us to their side and then recommeuce on the Rhine the gigantic combat which has just terminated The vast majority of German military leaders are op- posed to such a project. but we are being pushed more and more to 1t everyday. There is first of all Russian propaganda in Germany Then there is the Spartacist movement aided by the eQuivocal attitude of the independent Socialists, the apathy of the Social ists in general and the hate of France which is spreading among the con servative clements.
 If the present government in Ber- in continues it means the annihiliation of our trade and industry, the end of our civilization. That is why we have decided to overthrow the government and replace 1t by a government of force"
 It must be remembered that my in- teryiew with von Pabst dates from before the final elaboration of the Versailles Peace Treaty The confer ence was in session in Paris, and it was on that account that von Pabst urged me to make to the French Government the following recommend dations
 Before presenting to the German delegation the terms of peace you must tell the Scheidemann Govern ment that you cannot negotiate with 1t; that it does not inspire any con- fidence You must demand a new min istry and suggest the following names:
 Chancellor and War Minister Noske
 Interior Wdssel.
 'Finance-Marx or Schacht. director of the National Bank.
 Foreign Affairs Bernstorff. for merly Ambassador at Washington.
 'Noske is our instrument. I shall be his under-seeretary and, of course, I shall direct his work. Noske and Wissel are only Socialists in appear aace. Their presence in the Cabinet would simply mean that the Socialist party would have to be satisfied. You hHoN sAaiA 1t iS pItSiutHt Ol tHe Buergerrat of Berlin Ga monarchist association).
 'This new Cabinet will have dic- tatorial powers. We shall restore or der in Germany. Only an iron hand can do it.
 In elaboration of his further plans, Captain von Pabst told me his party would gladly see couple of divisions of Entente troops enter Germany to make common cause against the Bol- sheyiki. He even suggested that the 'weltmarschall," Foch, should have command.