The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-11-05

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New York Herald Bureau.
London. Nov. s.
With the debate on Ireland in the
House Of Commons tonight, the Irish
question Is entering new phase
Urged on by allegations that certain
Black and Tans' are threatening the
life OF Hugh Martin. correspondent Of
the London Daily Ncs1s, who has beer
telegraphing to his newspaper from
Ireland details Of reprisals there. the
opposition in the House Is demanding
an independent investigation. The
Freeman's Journal suggests that the
same commission which investigated
the German atrocities In Ireland
which was headed by viscount Bryce
make this investigation.
simultaneously talk OF con:pro.
mise settlement has cropped up again
Strong efforts are being made to In,
duce the Government to get in touch
with the Irish members Of Parliament
that 10 per cent. Of the Irish repre-
sentation which was chosen I'm the
general election in 1915 on the plat
form Of independence anc which re-
fused TO sit at Westminster and estab-
lIshed the Dali Eireann (the Irish Re-
publican Governrnent")--as the one
real hope OF solid settlement In IRE
land.
Valera Wants Settlement.
Eamonn de Valera. President OF the
Irish Republic" has Indicated he would
accept and settlement which war agree
able to his governfsent. and there have
been many inl.cs.Ep-.5 the. Kt s.rs-
Fe.n government s;as ssillias II SETTLE
the question short OF 1relsnd's ilideper-
dercc. provided some Yneans we're ee-
vised whereby the performance Of the
British promises was guaranteed.
I; must be said, however. that the de-
bate in Commons tonight confirmed the
impression that there was no likelihood
of the present British Government budg-
Ing from its present policy to pacify Ire
land. whatever may be the cost. before
talking about n settlement, and then TO
settle on Its own terms. which. as a
matter OF plain fact, satisfy only one
Irish element-the Carsonites.
Sir Hamar Greenwood, Chief Secre-
tary for Ireland, answering Joseph Dew
lin. Nationalist. revealed the crux OF the
whole situation regarding an investiga-
tion Of reprisals and. incidentally. cast
a powerful sidelight on facts gathered
by THE Nnw YoRK HERALD correspondent
here regarding persons through whom
the Government Is guided in IS policy
toward a settlement. Pressed by Mr.
Devlin for an independent inquiry into
the reprisals Sir IIamar replied that
the inquiry was already In the hands OF
British army officers. and that the Brit
ish people might be content to rest tho
honor Of the British army In the hands
of British ofiicers."
The debate was started by T. +.
O'Connor. who alta cked what he de-
scribed as the authorities policy Of
frightfulness In ireland. which. he de-
ciared. was adding new battalions TO
the Sim Fein army end besmirching
Eng1ands good name.
This 3 remark brought from Sir
Hamsr the statement that nine police
men In Ireland were under arrest In
connection with the reprisals. two OF
them being charged with murder. Gen.
Sir Nevil Macready. commander Of
the forces. had inquired into every
charge against the troops and disci-
piinary action had been taken In ten
cases. Trials had been ordered In other
cases. including seven men for COM
plicity in the destruction Of property at
Mailow.
The Secretary said II was the Gov
ernment's duty 20 defeat the organized
and armed attempt to intiinidate the
Government into granting the inde-
pendences OF Ireland. II the Govern
ment failed In this the policy of as
sassination would spread to England.
The best way TO put stop TO what
were called reprisals. said the secre-
tary, was to stop the campaign OF
murder against the police and military
Mr.. Deviin declared II was the mem
bers OF the Government who we're ro-
sponsible for the irish murders throush
policy az silly as n was criminal
Mr. Thomas asserted that the policy
was dangerous not only for Ireland but
for the Empire itself.
Charge Reports Lack Truth.