The New York herald., 1920-12-04

lenient with you." senator Lockwood
said.
Penay repeated he did not know what
had become of the cards for Which the
committee has been searching and which
Miss O'Des said were destroyed.
George w, GAYLORD. typewriting ex-
pert, testified that he had made careful
Inspection of the tainutes, and taat in
his opinion all OF the entries for the
nine months Under discussion had been
written at one time. He pointed out
Identification marks watch proved 1t,
he said Henry r. Higlnbotnanl, an
expert In typewrit.Rg, gave similar testi7
mony.
Conboy Hints at Crime Charge.
Mr.. Untermyer suspended the hearing
to read protest handed UP by AIR Con
boy against further proceedings along
this lire unless members of the bureau
were 10 be represea. led by counsel on the
ground that they were being charged with
guilt and that the purpose of the in
vestigation was not to get Information
to be used for remedial legislation. but
70 convict an association of crime. Mr..
( VUntermyer answered in part:
| II desire TO state upon the record that
! the testimony now offered is distinctlys
and directly in connection with remedial
! legislation. We are examining with re-
spect to the Builders Supply Bureau,
which is shown to be bureau consist
ing Of dealers engaged in certain activf-
| ties, either legal or Illegal, as the case
may be. but we are clearly within the
| scope of our duty under the resolution
\ in making that inquiry. 1t certainly be-
| comes essential to inquire as to whether
| those are the minutes, and that Is
clearly within the purvieW of our au-
! thority If we. were to toke anything
| that was offered and had no right to in
quire as to whether 1t was authentic or
not why, the committee would not be
able to make the investigation, upon
which the report is to be made for reme-
dial legislation"
Miss O'Dea was recalled to the stand
| She was asked how and when she had
| transcribed the minutes Of meetings as
| taken down by Penny, and SAID they
were written up each week.
"It Is only fair to tell you that ex-
perts have testified that some of these
] minutes were prepared at the same
| time" Mr.. Untermyer said. you do
not care TO change your testimony
The witness did not. She said that
prior to February this year she used
the typewriter in the bureaus office
for outside work. but that had petered
out.
Don't you see that the typing of the
! minutes from February to, November is
absolutely uniform"
10 would not say absolutely" she
said.
Miss O'Dea was excused.
Conboy Provokes Untermyer.
AIR. Conboy again broke in to know
whether Miss O'Dea was wanted any
longer. Then Mr.. Untermyer blew up.
He declared angrily:
"Mr. Chairman, we have been endeav-
! oring to investigate combinations. and
this among others. We have met with
destroyed cards destroyed papers. files
! missing: all sorts of irregularities clog
ging our investigation. SO that we can
( not keep on with the main purpose OF
it, and l suggest to the chairman that
this whole subject Of destruction Of
! the papers of the bureau. the subject
of these minutes and everything con-
nected with that subject be sent TO the
Grand Jury and let them go on with
] this Investigation. We cannot continue.
We have not the time"
Senator Lockwood issued the instruc-
tions and preparations were made forth
with 10 send to tho Extraordinary
Grand Jury the hooks. for possession
! of which Mr.. Conboy had made such n
hard but futile fight in the courts.
The committee learned something
more about brick from Frank l.. Homes
and William X. Hammond
Hammond testified that in all cases
the brick producers send their product
to enc agent IN New York. The uni
formity in prices results from economic
conditions, he insisted But he ad-
| nitted that II brick was sold to a
dealer not In the Masons' Builders Sup
! niles Association ii woulr be a viola
ton of the rules.
"Don't you know that two votes out
Of forty odd in your association Keep
a dealer out?"
That Is correct"
MIR. Untermyers examination tended
IN show that there was restriction In
the manufacture and shipment OF orich
regardless of the demand.
The hearing was adjourned TO next
Tuesday.