New-York tribune., 1920-11-19

Mayor Hylan-Well, produce what
you have got.
MIR. untermyer--Is there no end to
the garruhty Of this witness?
M&yoT Hylan--I will make a state
ment to the board.
Mr.. Untermyer-I object.
Mayor Hyian-I am going to make
it anyhow.
Mr.. Untermycr--No, you are not.
Mr. Chairman, l want this stopped.
Mayor Hylan-There are many let
ters that go to the different depart
nlents without coming to our attention
at all.
Protests Mayors Statements
Q.-Mr Mayor, we understand Won
to say you don't remember this par-
ticular letter from Hettrick about lime
stone and the support to be gwen the
mayor by labor unions if limestone
was used. A.--No.
Q.-ls there no way Of getting an
answer? If I asked him if the sun was
SHINING, he would say, "Last week was
q cloudy day, and it may rain next
week" | protest against the assertions
OF this witness. They are not true.
lhey have no foundation whatever. and
the quicker he gets down to answering
these questions the sooner we will be
through with him and be able to
go on.
When Mr.. Untermyer read a letter
from Hettrick to the Mayor dated Janu-
ary 80, in which the actions of various
organizations on the limestone ques-
ton were mentioned. and asked the
Mayor if he remembered it. another row
broke out. Several of the committee
men took hand and demanded that the
quarrels cease.
This Is just political attack on me
by Mr.. Untermyer," shot out the Mayor.
friend" F''''N"'
II don't want your friendship"
You were glad to get it,"
II assure you no politics is being
dragged in," remarked Senator Lock-
wood, addressing the Mayor.
When the Mayor charged Mr.. Inter
myer with aiding the Intcrborouph in
Its hight for an eight-cent fare Mr.. Un-
termyer smiled and said that the Mayor
was playing to the galleries.
Isn't this the cheapest sort of clan
trap 2" added Mr.. Untermyer. as tie
committee going to permit this man to
mittee?"
:, When Senator Lockwood asked the
mayor to keep in order Hy.an shot back
.nat Mr. Cntermyer was mnkiag DC.
!ltlcal football of the committed.
thlnk this committee ought to see
that | get fair deal here" he CON
cluded.
Mayor Alleges politics"
why, you have been Cabling the
whole time. Nobody else has had
chance to talk" commented Mr.. Inter
myer.
You are not going to put me in
hole for politics."
Then pull the hole in after Won"
rep.ied Mr.. Untermyer.
Your firm got the injunction
against us from purchasing municipal
ousses and putting them on the streets
OF the city. You have done everything
mat you could to help block progress
in the city"
Before leaving the stand the Mayor
deAle9 he was a champion of lime
stone, and declared that at the time he
approved city stone contracts he had
no knowledge of a limestone ring.
Atwell, a general contractor of
means, in relating his experiences with
brlndell, declared that the labor leader
was in absolute control of the building
industry. He could get jobs for sub
contractors at will; builders did not
dare to refuse his bidding, and the
building Trades Employers Associa-
ton, by backing him up, really gave
hlm his power, the witness said. He
was even in position, he declared, to
tx the price at which a given Job was
to be done, what the builder should pet,
what the subcontractor should ask and
what wages laborers should receive.
Two Checks in Evidence
In one instance, when he offered to |
pay $4,000 to wreck a building for
salvage. Atwell said Brindell told him
he, could get him the job by paying
'nly $4,000, If ne would give him the !
other $4,000. He said he took the lob !
and gave the labor leader the other
S5 600. Other instances of the same
nature were cited by Atwell, who said |
he gave Brindell S1a500 for Jobs and |
$500 in initiation fees for permission
10 use experienced workmen in his
operations.
iIe said he paid the money to Brin-
iell in five checks. all made out to
Hrindell and indorsed by him. Three
Of these checks bearing Brindell's in
1orsement, he said, he destroyed. The
other checks were in the hands of
counsel for the committee and were
PRODUCED
In connection with some trouble at
100 Broadway, where Atwell was doing |
demolition work, he said he went up to |
the Building Trades Employers Asso- /
citation in company with three other
men interested in the work, where he
met Brindell, Otto NJ. Eidltz, the dom
lnant force of the association, and !
Charles j. Kelly, chairman of the board i
of governors.
We put the proposition up to them"
said Atwell, "and asked them what they
were going to do about it. We wanted i
TO use the experienced men in place of !
the men Brindell wanted us to use.
"Mr. EidlitZ made a speech and said /
he thought Brindell was doing a won i
':erful work in stabilizing the industry.
and we must stand behind him. said |
to Fadus, one of the supcrintendents
on the job: Did you hear that?' He
said, Yes l said: Well what are
YOU going to do about it?' He saws.
" don't know I said: y am going to
get on the band wagon and you do the
same thing"
Brindell's Band Wagon
What band wagon was this, Brin-
iells 2"
"Eidlitz'a, Brindell's and the whole
bunch of them there. l knew there
was no use of me fighting any further.
We got old men, but we had to pay
Brindell for their use"
power?"
"Thirty-third Street the Building
Trades Employers Association l cali
it the Court of Appeals"
you think that the Building Trades