The Birmingham age-herald., 1920-10-10
ORDER IN IRELAND
 MUST BE RESTORED,
 DECLARES PREMIER
sfe Is War in Ireland, Sen War Must Be Waged On Both Sides, Says
 Lloyd George
By Assoeiated Press

CarnoVan, Wales. October 9.- Premier Lloyd George in a fighting speech to his Welsh constituents today, which was intended also for the world at large, declared that the government intended to restore order in Ireland "by methods how ever stern," and proceed with its <
 home rule bill.
 The prime minister turned down Do-
 minion home rule, protest ting against
 the suggestions that the government
 should go farther than Gladstone or As
 auth. mot because Ireland needs it,
 not because it is fair to the United
 Kingdom. but because crime has been
 successful" L
 A republic, he insisted would not sat
 isfy Irishmen, as Ulster would have
 something to say to that"
 Nothing which has happened in the
 past continued the premier, would jus
 tify the present conditions in Ireland,
 and, after giving figures, the number
 of police killed. he said:
 "The police have endured this state of things in way which is the highest testimony to their discipline and self restraintY There is no doubt that at last their patience has given away and there has been some severe hitting back"
 The premier declared that real murder gang is dominant in Ireland, making it impossible. for reasonable men to come together to consider the 1 best way to govern the country. Tt is | essential" he went on, sin the interest l of Ireland that the gang should be broken up and unless I am mistaken. we shall do it. But side by side with I that we must proceed with the meas ure for government in Ireland" NO WORD OF PROTEST | While these murders were going on, ] [ never heard a word of protest from | the Sim Fein in Ireland Mir. Arthur | Griffith founder of the Sim Fein) d l cry able and distinguished Irishman, communicated to the press of the United I States-and, I believe. to the English press-an interview the other day in which he showed great concern at the prospect of what he thought was going l tc be an attack upon his own life. do not believe there is any attack being 1 concerted against his life, but never saw a word from Arthur Griffith dis | playing any indignation at the killing l of 1N9 policemen"
 l The premier said that if there was a state of war in Ireland, it would give the soldiers and policemen fair chance | ana Iltt.. M0t-tft s fe e;Nu dCCOuAl5 VI l Themselves He demanded whether the police were to stand to De shot down l like dogs without any attempt to defend l themselves, and declared it was more ! than human nature could tolerate
 WOULD MEAN CONSCR1PTION 1 Mir Lloyd George said he could under stand and sympathize with the idea that self-government should be given because l 1t would bring good will, but not because l "a gang of assassins had bullied the government into it." It was all very | we'll he continued, to talk about do- 1 nlinion form of government. but Ireland demanded an absolutely independent re- public and even that would not satisfy l the Irish He declared Ulster would not 1 have an Irish republic, and we do not want to negotiate peace with civil war | at our very doors.
 i MT Lloyd George said that if Ireland were given complete dominion home rule | 1t would mean she could have conscrip- l ton and then England, with her army of 100000 men, might be confronted with an Irish army of half million. He con tended that dominion home rule for Ire land meant conscription for England
 The premier charged that Ireland had assisted the German submarine cam naign and declared that. although little had been said about it, Ireland was
  Had anyone ever proposed such lunacy lhe demanded, as to allow Ireland te obtain her independence with her owr army and navy and her capacity for as sistng Great Britain's enemies?
 Nc one wanted to manage Ireland's do mestic affairs. he said, but dangerous weapons like armies and navies were better under the control of the imperia I parliament, and the government would resist any attempt to give Ireland a separate navy and army. The present home rule bill he declared would have given Ireland every possible facility te manage her own domestic affairs.
 In connection with the charge that Ire. land assisted Germany during the war Mir. Lloyd George asserted that in 19i, and 1918, the Irish were conspiring r lccnnection with German submarine operations and that there were docu. ments discovered in the pockets of mer arrested in 1918 showing that they were prepared within two months of the Ger. man offensive--of which they knew--te raise a huge force in Ireland "to stat l Great Britain in the back when she en. gagged in a life and death struggle for the freedom of the world'