Great Falls daily tribune. [volume] (Great Falls, Mont.) 1895-1921, 1920-11-21
BUILDER PAYS
$4,000 FOR JOB
SAYS WITNESS
Mrs. Wilson's Brother
Shares in Split, Probers
Are Told.
New Yorker Testifies He
Got Price for Introduce
ing Boiling.

New York, Nov. 2O.-AlIega-
tions tending to implicate men
now and formerly connected
with the United States shipping
board with alleged collusion in
obtaining contracts for the Wal
lace Downey Shipbuilding COM
pany Of New York, were made
here Saturday by Tucker K.
Sands, a witness before the
Walsh committee investigating
shipping board affairs.
The men named and alleged to have
participated in a distribution of more
than $4,000 were r w. Boiling.
brother-in-law of President Wilson, and
now treasurer of the shipping board:
Lester Sisler, formerly secretary of the
board; John Cranor, a representative Of
the Downey Shipbuilding company and
Sands himself. He testified that he re-
ceIVed the money in the form of notes"
some of which he discounted and at
different times described payments to
Boiling and Sisler as both payments"
and loans"
Commission For Loan.
In another part Of this testimony b,
asserted that the money was to be ac-
knoWiedged as commission to him for
obtaining loan from the bank to the
shlpbuildlng company, with which the
witness was then connected
The testimony of Sands was predieat-
ed by that of Alfred w McCann, a re-
porter for the New York Globe who
swore he had obtained from Sands an
affidavit detailing the entire transac-
tlon. McCann further testified that
when he took the affidavit to Sands for
him to sign he declined to do so, on ad-
wee OF his attorney. Previous to sub
nlttlng the affidavit for Sands sigma
ture. however, McCann said he had TAX
en- the document to the shipping board
and had it photostated On one of these
copies carrying notations in what was
testified to Sands handwriting, and
which Sands afterward testified to be-
may be little different" was present
ed by Mccain as evidence. The docu-
nent. however, was not made a part of
the stenographers minutes of the
hearing.
Loaned Boiling Money.
Questioned by Chairman Walsh and
Congressman Kelley, Sands said he did
not think Boiling ever got a cent from
ANYBODY for aiding to get a CONTRACT
that money given him was loan" At
another time he stuck to the statement
that that Boiling was to get his share of
the transaction-that he gave Sisler
$4,000 aud that he had loaned Sisler
for one of his companies $1,000 on his
note which note he still has. He said
he had never had any controversy with
Boiling and was on friendly terms with
him. He also mixed into his testimony
details of a purchase by him from Boil
ing OF lot for 5000.
Sands testified he was now under in
dletment for allowing company to
overdraw--a shipping company in which
| was interested He testified that he
was then connected with the Commercial
National bank of Washington las its
cashier; he also testified he had en-
deavored without success to secure Mr..
Bolling's influence to have this case
settled
This document says" Chairman
Walsh informed the witness:
Divide $4,000.
Referring to the photostate that
$40, 900 is to be divided in the following
manner: 900 to be paid in one lot
and equally divided is the sum of $3.50
'or each of the four OF us---Sisler. Boil
ing, Cranor aud myself Mr.. Cranor
vas to share in this commission too, was
le?"
Yes, sir"
THE representative of Mr.. Downeyw
Yes, sir"
"And you say during the negotiations
Ir. nowney came to Washington. He
'atified the agreement whereby $4,000
compensation was to be paid?''
Il think l did, the witness replied
Sands said he introduced Cranor to
3olling and Sisler. He testified receiv-
ng the notes from the representative of
oowney but added there was one thing
lie would have to look up."-referring
o the photostate document--"and that
vas whether / paid Mr.. Boiling any OF
he proceeds of these notes."
Don't you know you never paid him?''
dr. Walsh asked.
II don't recall that did pay him on
his deal. l don't think did"
Purchase Lot for 5000.
Sands then testified he had purchased
, lot from Boiling and that he still owed
Boiling 5000. He also testified to ask
ng Mr.. Boiling to intercede for him with
he department of justice to got the case
against him brought by the bank out OF
he department of justice. Mr.. Boiling
,ad refused, he testified.
$50 Mr.. Cranor came to Washington
nd had several conferences with you
nd Mr., Boiling and MIR. Sisler?" Chair
aan Walsh inquired.
Eyes. SIR" Sands replied.
And you were TO use your influence
tCeatinusA ON F~gs rws,