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The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
President Assumes Adriatic
Correspondence Is Ended.
Expects No Answer to His Re-
ply to Entente Premiers.
new PROPOSAL SUGGESTED
Great Britain, France and Italy
Asked to Reconsider.
Withdrawal Threat Expected to
Whip Nations in Line.

Washington, Feb. 2O.-President
Wilson's latest note on the Adriatic
settlement is regarded at the White
House as his final word on the sub
ject, it was stated today. One Off
cial said. He thought no further
correspondence would be necessary"
Formulation by the United States,
Great Britain and France of a new
proposal to Italy and Jugo-Slavia for
settlement of the Adriatic controversy
is likely to result from President Will
sons re-entrance into the negotiations,
il was believed here today.
Faced with Wilson's reported inti-
nation that he might consider the
withdrawal of the treaty of Versailles
and the treaty of alliance between
for the defense of France, it is be-
lieved that Britain and France will
exert themselves to cause Italy to
make concessions to the Jugo-Slavs in
line with the presidents stand. Pre-
mier Nitti of Italy has declared that
the January plan of the allies was the
least that his country would accept.
Wilson's reply to the answer of the
supreme council to his protest had
not been put on the cables for trans
mission today and was still in the
hands of Acting Secretary of State
Polk. 1t was believed that the presi-
dent has asked Polk to consider the
note before it is sent Polk is thoroly
familiar with the Adriatic situation
from his participation in the negotia-
tions in Paris.
May Reveal Text Today.
Before the presidents note is put
on the cables a copy will be submitted
by him to the state department for
final approval.
Officials who are anxious for pub
, lication of the entire corresponds ence
hope to arrange for giving out the
notes today 1t is believed the pres
ident is not adverse to such action but
will defer his consent until he is adj
vised on the subject by Acting Secre-
( tary Polk.
! Summaries of the allies reply to
Wilson's first note published in this
country were declared not authentic
by the White House and state depart
ment
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20

Peary's wife, son, son-in-law,
daughter and q. niece were at his bed
side when he died.
Robert Edwin Peary, intrepid
Arctic explorer and discoverer of the
North pole, altho born in Pennsyl-
vania and in later life a resident of
Washington, D. C, was claimed as a
son of Maine.
First Into Arctic in 1886.
1t was in 1886 that Peary then but
80 years old, made his first trip north
and caught the Arctic fever. "mal-
ady'' he was never able to cure.
From that date to September. 1909,
was a continuous period of planning
and effort to reach the top of the
word.
His initial trip was for the purpose
of making a reconnaissance of the
Greenland ice cape.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
BERLIN JOINS ANVIL CHORUS.
Tageblatt Takes Slap at President Will
son and His Row With Lansing.

Berlin. Feb. 1S.-The action of
President Wilson in virtually dismiss
ing his secretary of state. Robert Ian
sing. may well give Americans food
for thought as to the unique consti-
tutional privileges Of the president,
the Tageblatt said today.
Since his illness the president has
become more than ever a psyche
logical phenomenon" the newspa per
asserted. adding that Wilson's inner
and outer policies obviously are gov
erned by psychological riddles"
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
MADE MILLION BY FAKES
Police interrupt Business of Cheap
Spark Plug Patent Violatore-

Chicago, Feb. 20.-One man was
under arrest here today and num-
Der of others were sought in connec-
tion with what police said was a plot
to flood the market with low grade
spark plugs bearing the trade mark
and name OF Toledo. Ohio. company.
The limitations, according to the po-
lice and company epresentatives. have
been disposed of by thousands for
four years The alleged swindle is said
to have netted more than s1,000.0O0
and to have threatened the existence
of the original manufacturing COM
pany.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
RAILWAY WATCHMAN KILLED.
Kansas City Negro Gang Held
RESPONSIBLE Declare the Police

Kansas City. Mo. Feb. 20.-Fou-
men, believed to be negroes. today
were held responsible for the muir
der of Marvin T. Hale, Kansas City
Southern railroad watchman, last
night Hale was shot to death while
inspecting freight cars near the road s
team tracks. Another watchman was
slugged but not seriously hurt.
Police believe the negroes were bent
on robbery of freight cars containing
alcohol The alleged robbers escaped
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
Arthur Guy En1pey
Gets License to
Bury Bones Here

Because his English bull dog was
horn on November 11-when the ar
nistice between Germany and the
entente powers was signed. G. r.
Schvsr. s25 Adams street, named him
Arthur Guy Empey, after the name
of the soldier-author of the famous
war book. over the Top" Arthur
Guys" name is on tlAe tax books at
the citys clerl.s office
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
Kansas Painters want 81 Per Hour

Junction City. Kan. Feb. ga de-
mand by union painters of this city
for q wage increase to 81 per hour.
effective April /. was rejected yester-
day by the boss painters. The men
have been receiving rs cents per hour
for the past eight months. according
to the employers, altho the scale is
only 20 cents.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
GAS LEAKED-THREE INJURED.
Total of Seven Casualties from Ex-
pIosion in Oklahoma Hotel.

Muskogee. Okla. Feb. 20.-A gas
explosion in the Larue hotel late yes
terday seriously injured three men
and slightly injured four others. The
hotel. a three-story structure, was
demolished by the force OF the ex-
plosion-
It is believed the gas from a leaky
pipe was ignited by a spart from a
short circuited electric wire causing
the explosion.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
MORGAN CARRIES HIS COUNTY.
Defeats Emerson Carey for c. o. p.
Delegates i'll Reno County.

Hutchinson. Kan. Feb. Gov. Y.
Morgan today had carried Reno coun-
ty for district delegate to the Repub-
lican national convention by an
overwhelming majority. He was op-
posed by coalition headed by Ezner-
son Carey and Rodney Edward.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
ABANDON AIR MAIL LINES.
Short Routes To Be Dropped and
Cross Country Line Established.

Washington. Feb. 2O.-The senate
postoffice committee today voted TO
recommend esta blishment of am air
mail route from New York to San
Francisco and for dropping the pres
ent routes between New York and
Washington and New York and Chi
cago.
This action upheld that taken
earlier in the week by a sub-com-
mittee.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
Irish Police in Desperate Battle

Dublin. Feb. 2o--One policeman
was killed, another wounded slightly
and a civilian wounded dangerously
in fighting here late last night. II
could not be learned whether the po-
lice were ambushed or the shooting z
took place when they attempted to
make arrests
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
Weather e
SNOW AND COLDER FORECAST
Spring Recess Comes to an End
Down TO Is or 20 Hero.

WEATHER FORECAST FOR KANSAS
Unsettled Saturday; much colder tonight
and Saturday probably with snow north
portion; cold wave west and north central
portions with temperatures to II above
by Saturday morning.
Shippers forecast warns TO protect Sc
hour shipments north and west against Il
temperature of 10 degrees; east and south,
Is degrees.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
stecher Wins Another Victory.

Buffalo. N. Y, Feb. 20. - Joe
Stecher, Nebraska's worlds wrestling
champion, successfully defended his
title here last night by throwing Ivan
Kotloff, in 33 minutes and 80 seconds
with scissors hold.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
Sold Fifty Hogs-Got stO.5OO

Versailles. Mo. Feb. 2O.-Fifty hogs
in the II. W. Smiley spotted Poland
China sale here brought S10.50O- In
dividuaI honors went to Smileys
Giantess. which brought S2,250, the
biggest price ever paid in this county.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20
ANOTHER BOIL WATER WARNING
City Health Officer Finds Gas Form
ing Organisms in Samples.

Another warning to Topekans to boil
the city water has been sounded, this
time by DR.. Earle G. Brown. city
health officer Brown said that gas
forming organisms were found in
samples and that free use of the
water. without boiling. was likely to
cause intestinal trouble. A warming
was issued by w. a. StanfieId, water
commissioner. for persons not to drink
water without first boiling it, because
the city at any moment might be COM
PEELED to pipe river water direct.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20

Enid. Okla, Feb. 20.-The Phillips
university basketball team beat the
Kansas Aggies in thrilling battle here
last night by a score of 50 to %.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20

Reliable man to do janitor work
and drive. Call Provident Association.
Saturday morning.-Adv.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1920-02-20

Berne. Feb 2O.-Hard fighting
against the Bolsheviki continues in
NCErainia, dccording to reports re-
ccivcd by the Ukrainian delegation
here ana it IS announced that some
successes against the soviet forces
have been won in the neighborhood
of Tiraspol.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
City Corruption

Sir Auckland Geddea. British ambassador. N.Y.
the materiaiisn OF the modern city is mifxtone
around the neck OF democracy.
Lord Dunsany, irtsh draua,iss also condemns In
bis plays the metropolitan cities OF prchistortc
times when the gods talked with men.
IL has always been tho The city w~Akers
mons souls Men gather together In larx. communi
ties for purposes Of trade and incorporating The
larger the community tho moro opportunities there
are for acquiring wealth The iure OF the city II
the lure OF gold.
Lord punsauy pictures the metropolitan cities Of the
anci,nt world centers of degeneracy. FROM which
yen Of fed for tho freedom Of open
space the interrupted Jungle Sir Auckland
Geddes the cities Of today draxx.d down BY
q determined minority thru blackrnan corruption.
Always tho Of city has been descent into evil
But tho city has ifa defense where masses OF
together the primitive cunning Of the
II stimulated by the sight of oen,ralixed wealth
Tho survival OF the fi,test began among thoss VINO
In early tfnes acquired than their weaker fe
lows The ma,tsred- Desenersry Of the
cities thus has been bred BY tho contrfvanoes
Itself 10 pcrs~vere Cities have ever damaged mems
souls that their bodi>s might iive But humanity
slowly progressing upward Man IL discovering the
origin Of the evils Of metropolitan cttteA That II
frs, step toward finding the
Note: Hens fed on fermented corn icin
lay eggs that t0iu hatch cocktails.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
LETTERS TO EDITOR

didn't see VIM. Gottstein walking
the streets as free as anyone for a
year after he had been convicted of
murder for the second time by a
Jury OF American citizens.
Twenty.four presumably fair-mind.
cd. nnprejudiced citizens state II as
their opinion In a verdict that VIM.
Cottstein was guilty OF a most
treacherous and revolving murder,
and Mr.. Carmody allows him TO walk
the streets Of Seattle as free ms n
bird for a year Then The Star de.
votes scarce heads to the death
threats which Mr.. Carmody In re-
ceiving from criminals. Isn't In Just
too rich for any usel
We arc willing 10 admit that Mr..
Gottstein had some very rich rela.
tives and seemed 10 have unlimited
cash at his disposal. but any poor
man who commits murder is a
fool :.
We think Mr.. Carmody's death no,
tices are making that little stunt OF
Jewel and some OF his colleagues
whose salaries are paid by tho tax.
payers. OF going out and gathering
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
For Rich as For Poor
Prom The Portland News,

II sor~body viii circulate a petition In rr~siden,
Wilson asking him 20 extend executive, clemeney Go
all political prisoners OF Tho NswN VIII sign
that petition.
but win not sign and win not ask anybody
eire. TO sign a petition to keep Henry Aihors out
OF tho penltentary.
The plea IL that Ahcrp s old. sick and Eunw blind
He has our sympathy Tho plea n made that there
innocent and children bearing the name
of Abers who win suffer shame II Henry Aib~rs
rocs 20 prison. We are sorry for those women
and children
But other SICK oh have rome 10 prison for
their sins before And when DO innocent loved
ones not suffer because break the laws OF
rocctyT
Henry Arn-rs legally tried and convicted.
Many men and women IN prison for crimes
similar 10 HIS. II he who II rich. n pnrioned.
while poorer men s>rve prsun terms the recruiting
serEeants oe discontent and revolution WIN reap n
rich harvest
In the interest Of the common veal. Henry AIberr
should TO the peni,en,iary. There must not be
one law. for the rich and for the poor.
Any carpenter can tel Governor Edmards
that a ,cet plank makes bum job.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
[TALKSI1
DEFrank
| Crane
OPINIONS ON THE TEACHER
SHORTAGE

What shah We think about sbs
teacher shortage7 In democracy
menaced7 WIN conditions right
construe the present situation
teachers In droves leaving the school,
room 20 make more money slss
where7
Here are . few anrwcru To Gbefr
questions. from the foremost teach
err OF tbs country; they were sent TO
Julius II. Barnes. chairman Of the In
stitute for Public Service
PRESIDENT Mezes. College Of tho
City of New York: A menace, means
too few teachers. fll-prepared teach
err. ana lower grade Of Industrial
workers.
Twelve college presidents favored
propaganda showing need Of teach
erB and rewards Of teaching profes-
sion
John II. Finley. New York s.ats.
Why not an educational PlattsburEh
in every state this summer
President Davis. Hunter coIlegx
College men and women can be In
terested In teaching two or three
years even II they do not intend
to follow teaching for life
President Seerley. Iowa STATE col
lege: Recruiting drives started too
late: even II salaries raised. II win
take four years TO catch up .
@. Stanley Hall. Clark universitye
Why start drives for more teach
ers and higher pay and make no e.
fort 10 state the new spirit. methods.
and aims education should have
after the war;
President Hopkins. Dartmouth:
Endowment drives have offered sal
AIRY relief with one hand. and with
the other taken away seif.respect
more precious TO NEST teachers than
salary.
w. o. Thompson. Ohio stats uni
versity: Stop drawing the line At
40 or 30 and use the supply Of CON-
potent older men
r. o. WILSON. University q Mon
tana Make the public - that
business maa are handling iess vAlu-
able material and less important
problems than teachers.
President NJ. l.. Burton. University
Of Minnesota: Show Industries they
are killing the goose that lays the
golden egg when they entice college
Instructors into industry. instead Of
making IL worth their while to 20
on training men for industry.
/ l.. q. Schurrnnn. Cornell Appeal
to youths ideaiisrn-
And no on.
After all is said and done. however,
our old friend. Law Of Supply and
Demand. win probably arrange mat
, tcrH.
We must have teachers. Ths -
mand for them Is constant II
there is a shortage. pay VIII 80 up.
What councils and legislatures
and agitators. with strife of tongues.
cannot do, Natural Law will DO. n
quietly and efficiently as II works
the hydrostatic paradox
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
Plenty of Vacation

deciding cases OF vast Importance to the people
Of this country
II has again postponed hearing the farm loan case
upon which rests the future Of cheap ioang food
producers Probably IL win b decided this fall.
dispatches from Washington assert
Again and again has the supreme court postponed
It's decision the oonstituionaity of prohibition
amendment and the enforcement act Other cases.
many OF them. patiently await the courts attention
Yet the court takes a spring recess the first half
OF May and announces: after the two we~ks recess
final adjournment for the summer win be taken
early In June.-
Meanwhile the country. It's peopI. and business
can mark time.
The court must have It's vocational
LLOYD George says everyone Is satisfied
NTH what happened at San Reno. Berlin
papers please copy
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

In a few so-called /. w. WIS when.
ever the stink becomes 70 napseating
that even Seattle's calious and ex.
perienced stomach would be turned.
look like the act OF n deep and subtle
intellect
Seattle has been providing these
U. q. and the world at largo with her
own inimitable brand OF comedy for
n good many years, but we don't
think II is necessary for one to be
much Of an admirer OF the late Mr..
Hiram GIN to claim that no was a
man OF entirely too much intelli-
gence TO ever try to pull off any OF
the raw. rank and rancid stuff that
his SUCCESSORS have been putting on
the boards for over two years.
Respectfully.
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS..
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

se~ttie cannot get along comfortably without q
great auditorium Dozens OF people lined up at
dawn Thursday and stood six hours waiting for a
chance TO buy tickets for the Call Curci concsrt.
Every year greater thronk Of people carer
70 enjoy the worthwhile musical offers
To provide ample facilities and frequent oppor
tunites for artistic Joys has become a civic duty.
The LADIES' Musical club In bringing great artists
TO Seattle. Ia performing noble public service. These
women do not bring musicians here TO make money.
They generally give their profits for the public good
1T the end of each year. and merely protect them
selves against loss by putting their ventures a
financial basis.
Tho dscourasfnE fact about the whole situation
n that too few people hear the b>ss In music.
Seattle should have a Ereat auditorium. With room
Tor all who would To The prs-es then.
might be kept within the reach Of all Cnui Seattle
has an adequate auditorium. attain com
plets community Satisfaction
Seattle should be the hAppisss Of c4tieal Zach
year we ought To enlarge facilities The Stadium
the Civic Center Hotel and ample auditorium
should an be forthcoming Boon-and not the lsaa,
Of these L. the auditorium
Chicago drirers Of bakery trdoons threaten
to loaf IL not oiven more dough.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

Offlccrs In the army signal corps
have discovered that submarine ca
bles may be replaced by bare wire
laid in the sea for tho transmission
OF messages, both by telephone and
telegraph.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
ANTEBTTIONIyED FOE

Oncn upon a midnight dr~ary,
While pondercd dry and weary
Over many quaint and curious
Story OF barroom lore.
there came a rappfng
And voice crying. Have one more.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
VEIL SAY
SO SavR-

Today's Best Bet: That wages
will drop before the cost OF living.
Ono year ago today Ruth Carl
son was taken 10 Waltz Walla. The
Ruth Garrison cocktail became wide
~ celebrated. but is seldom served
nowadays.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
ALL MEDIUMS FAKEsg

Editor The Star. May address a
letter thru you to "Siivertip Regain"
II follows.
A. I have been reading your ar
.Ncles In The Star, would like to
ask you q question regarding spirit,
ualisn. You stated that yea have
peen q fake medium and CRATER in
the past
DO you think that all mediums are
fakes? II so, what are they trying
to fake from or irnitate7 Or do you
think there Us some truth in spirit
return
AN INTERESTED READER.
Editors Note. An interesting
article on spiritism takers and
their methods. that would an
swer the shove questions, will
be found In The Saturday Eve
ming Post Of April "a.
CARsdODY'S DEATH NOTES
Editor the Star: Mr.. Carmody's
Aeath notices are Just too cute apd
anus1ng for anything.
JuR - tho The psopla Of Seattle
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

n know
In presidential
1 a
I'm tho who really II
I sitting
In the
lights grateful
candidate
Who
I
I'm fomo hse
m from
wlthou, this Socd old stats. ard FIN
from
he pcknxp
For Ohio old ed the r~tnue
Couldn't Teuton
TIL he the help OF Newton
I'm from Ohio. too
The are
with platforms butded
AnS you1 find
Th~y are
And their pianks broad and long
But them by
q carvess
DO bed.
For tho plank I bring
the
ITS the only one need-
I'm from
m from
You can't a.,
without this good old state. and I'm
from Ohio
m
he prime
the Of Grant and Garfield and Taft and Tfppecance
nm Mckinley burst tho public
SO the precedent In ample
example,
I'm Ohio tool
tCopyrght 1890. N r. AZ
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
SEATTLE on TOP
Ifsnnrad LIZ EtiIh INinUA

Editor Wen Say so: Now that
tho police and coroner have decided
suicide. tho mystery Is cleared up.
the unfortunate CHAP. tired OF nv
Ing. simply sot n good heavy CLUB.
lacked OFT rev steps ana deai'
himself good lusty blow on the
head ana pushed himself into tile
Thousands Of men ar, oiamorfnc
for beer. sayr the governor OF New
YORK. And naturally making a great
deal more noise than the thousands
who are not
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15
LIARS WE HAVE MET

Il once Knew an artist who paint
Cd n cobweb on the ceiling and II
looked 90 real that the maid tried
her best 20 sweep I; off"
Huh. that's nothin'. knew an
artist who actually painted a cia-
mond on HIS shirt front. and he had
every crook In the country following
htm--
Huh. you guys haven't seen
much I once knew an artist who
made his living painting pictures. {"
chorus: You win
Biuff1ng In an art whereby no one
knows the result
Senses are always 3arred cut OF
anyone before the fall
Trying 10 live your life over again
Is second childhood
A person may find originality In
being himself
A crcaitahia achievement means
a magnificent struggle
Sins usually take thss count Of
tina
SPIRITS
Spirits In curious word--very
old and aged In the wood.
The 18th amendment drove spirits
out. the ouijA board brought them
back.
Spirits may be n morning -constt
tutional" that IL unconstitutional,
Spirits may lie around the house IN
disembodied form. but the minute
spirits take on body they are under
government ban
Spirits lie like n politician over the
oulja board. but spirits, too. are the
great truthtcllcrs--in vino veritaA
DO spirits come back7 VIII they.
Is rather tho important question.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

Chicago drirers Of bakery ,raoons threaten
to loaf IL not given more dough.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

UNCLE sAM. ~ n wfn ssvv~.
e<thv In this column OF by mail,
as~sstsss 81 ss.~rsi taser~ss r~isxiss
saiy - hyGiene. sanifatton and the
ps~v~asi.1 Of di.~a~e. u viii b.
imps~feie fsv him TO ssswey qv~s-
tiass Of purely personal saiure. o.
10 Dv~>>sths fsv tndis dual ais~sess.
Aa<s--si
INFORMATION EDITION.
4. \. Public u~aith s~rvie~.
Washington. -. e.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

Note: Hens fed on fermented corn iciu
lay eggs that t1iu hatch cocktails.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

A lot of favorite sons hare been put in the
b10p
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

Btn ms tho tenant remarked. This
IL no ball game. but was put out by
the landlord"
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

But, ~ tn hank clerk remnrkcd.
This bank b ifke our government
II has . systen Of checks and bal
ancca.",
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1920-05-15

The meat they hand you IN . re-
tsurant In very rarc Or should we
say seldomf