The Birmingham age-herald., 1920-07-10
ONLY AN INTIM

ONL1 AN lNIlMA LAYTON
 "Occupation in the present protocol added MT. Lloyd George, 'is simply ar irtimation by the allies as to the step; they would take if Germany did not fulfill her obligations. It will occur only if the terms are not carried out It relates not to action by Germany but to action by the allies"
 At this point, the conference proceed ed with a discussion of war criminals. while secretaries draftSd the disarma- ment protocol for signature. When the document was ready the oelegates filed into a oom adjoining the conference chamber and Chancellor Fehrcnbach advanced first.
 How shall start?" he asked. sec retory rel lied:
 With your natural signature"
 The German premier then affixed his signature. followed by M. della Croix, Premier Lloyd George, Premier Miller and, Count Sforza, Italian foreign min ister; Viscount Chinda, Japanese ann bassador to Great Britain and Earl Cur zon, British foreign secretary.
 WAR CRIMINALS DISCUSSED
 Discussion of war criminals was opened by the German minister of jus tice, Carl Heinze, who said:
 German courts have already taken preliminary steps on the first list of war guilty presented by the allies It contained nine hundred names, which up to May 2, were reduced to forty-five There are still considerable difficulties to be overcome, as some of the names are inaccurate and some charges inad- 'equately specified"
 Some of the accused have left Ger many"
 Herr Heinze thought reduction in the list by the allies showed what the diff ficulties were.
 Premier Lloyd George denied the ac- curacy of the German minister's de- auctions. He said it was evident Ger many did not want to carry out the treaty in this respect. Dr. Simons then interjected:
 We have every intention of carry ing out these obligations. What we want is evidence. The courts cannot convict without it, and we want the al. lies to help us get it''
 MT. Lloyd George asked:
 Have any arrests been made?"
 NO ARRESTS MADE
 Dr. Simons answered:
 No"
 Isn't there sufficient evidence for ar rests?' then asked Premier Lloyd George.
 The allies are seeking punishment for breaches of the laws of war and want to bring to justice persons punishable in Germany or any other civilized state. It Is in Germany's interest to justify her self n the eyes of the world by prose- cutting her criminals
 Mir. Lloyd George added, '"rhe allied will furnish all the evidence in it's possession, and hope the Leipsig court will do it's duty'' ''The Germans will be glad to attend 3 conference to that end replied Dr. Simons. 'I have been a judge myself for twenty years, and let me say that while the arm of the state is force, the soul is justice. That's why we agree that it is in the interest of Germany herself that criminals shall be punished.
 "I am satisfied that the list furnished oy the allies contains only the names of the criminals. But there must be ev- jenee, or the high court will not convict. Cases of this character generally are. tried by court-martial immediately after the event. Tn this instance the procedure is novel Much of the evidence must come from foreign countries. The Ger mans are unable to rely unon their own and must have help from the allies"