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.Upham Denies That
He Ever Heard OF List
OF Names Cox Presented
At Chicago Inquiry
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spices or the national n
receive back fixed proportion Of the
money for state purposes.
MI. Upham agreed with Senator
Reed that in states where there was
no such arrangement there was Moth
ing to prevent the state and county
committees from collecting any size
fund they could raise.
The witness maintained that in the
states where the joint arrangement
was in use, that additional collections
would be SO difficult as to beitprac-
|tically prohibitive.
7 think no one, could go over that
territory and raise funds because ev-
cry man approached would say I have
been seen and have contributed he
explained. sEs
Mr.. Upham would not express an
opinion as to whether it was right to
pay campaign speakers ana Senator
ton of etiquette which scarcely fell
within the purYieW of a campaign
The witness said his job was to keep
the speakers. bureau from exceeding
its budget. Asked by Senator Reed
whether there was anything to pre-
vent the national committee from
doubling its budget, MIR. Upham re-
Joined:
They would have to get a new
treasurer il they did,
Yes, and new chairman" re-
marked Will H. Hays, who sat at Mr..
Upham's elbow.
Moro Than Hays Reported.
enra,;a. lhnndred thousand dollars
was added ito the Republican cam
Palgn chest. figures presented by
Chairman Hays yesterday when Mr..
Upham revealed that the Republican
senatorial and congressional CAM
paign committees are to raise indie
pendent funds.
He testified that the national COM
mittee had agreed to loan the sena-
torialt committee up to $500, 900 and
the congressional committee $2OO,O 900
to be returned when they collect their
own funds.
Mr.. Upham explained that only
5000, 900 of the loans could actually
be spent in the 1920 campaign as the
senatorial committee was to get only
100000 before November 2. The
other 100000 is to be used to finance
future campaigns.
Senator Reed, cross-examining Mr..
upham brought out the fact that
money advanced the two committees
was on straight loans and was not in
cluded in the budget of approximately
$4,000,000 which Chairman Hays told
of yesterday
Where will they get the, money to
pay back the~se*loans?" Senator Reed
asked.
From Republicans"
That means they will raise. that
moneysin addition to the budget o
raise, andS5return 1t to you?"
:ThereswsNl IL just that much more
added to your campaign fund"
Not to Dur fund"
w need 43not e%quivocate: You.
know land. II know. MI. Uphamy hat
when money is put into any campaign
fund tits put there to help ali the
candidates,
No 'sdbterfuse.
Early in hts examination MI. Up-
ham denied that there had been any
cases Of lsubterfuge in connection with
the limitation ofsindividual campaign
contributions to. 81. 900. He. told SEN
ator Kenyon. who brought up the top
tc. that there yer eightsgifts Of more
than $1,000 but that none OF these
exceeded $1,000.
on hand last Thursday totalled 12si.-
666.33 and he told Senator Reed
that about 100000 OF this would he
available Tor national committee use.
the balance being allocated3to various
states In which the money was raised.
The Massourt"senator then had the
witness state: that.the commtttee in-
nsIitsd SSas,e2 da any. debt. Of ap-
charge ID party affairss 8 q June w
Since then u had borrowed 336O.6OOi
from banks and Mr.. Upham made the
total receipts Of the. committee for its
own purposes $1,57l,624.Bl.
b Bealss prize OF 10000 for the