The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-11-24

mitted to the bar IN oclouoi,
TTirshfield said he first met HEiah
in 1901.
wb.Ien stormy witness.
Commissioner Whalen was on the
stand most of the forenoon, ana most
of the time he and Mr. Untermyer were
having il back and forth not ana
heavy. The lawyer asked the commas
sioner whether he was ever conhecteu
with n firm which had a contract Tor
ren,oving ashes from Broadway. Mr..
Uhalen said the reference evidently
u,os 70 Holland & Co, which had
contract with the New York Railways
Company for cleaning streets between
tracks south Of Fourteenth street
II am speaking of a concern that had
a contract for ash removal ana that
dumped those ashes ~ the Court House
excavation Now. what was that ilrh'
II don't know anything about IL
Mr.. Whalen said.
"That firm had a contract for the re-
noval Of ashes from Broadway to Canal
street. and that contract provided that
ashes should be taken out and dumped
out at sea. Now, you don't know who
had that contract?'
IT don't know anything about IT.
no Won know who dumped the ashes
into the Court House excavation"
II haven't the slightest idea.
you know they were dumped there?'
AZ certainly do
was tho Mayor consulted about II
..The Mayor was away at the time
md GOV. smith was the .tcting Mayor
Did you know II was gong on
"T certainly did
"Why didn't you stop it?
~ was not my business TO stop 1t. |
thought it was very good thing II you
want my opinion on II.
"Who had that contract for excavat-
ing the Court House site?"
"I don't know"
And YOU know the city is paying very
heavily for taking out those ashesY'
II do not
the neighborhood Oh S4VV'"V 10 40 ti"''
II do not"
you would not assume they would
excavate beyond what was necessary
would your
~ would not make an assumption
nbout anything you might ask me. /
sticE 10 the facts, and you do the same
"A suggest you be little less inn
pertinent" Mr. Untermyer flashed
back
20 that"
Mr. vhalen. smiling, pleasant and
wearing a white carnation In his lapel
when he had stepped on the stand. was
now getting angry, and the fur was be-
ginning 70 fly. The Commissioner said
that MS he remembered IL fourteen
inches of snow had fallen. and IL waS
Impossible to cart the ashes through the
streets.
"IVas the snow stlu fourteen inches
esep IN the summer" Mr. Untermyer
asked. stating that the dumping was
eth going on as late as July. MIR. I'm
tcrnyer asked the witness how he could
have been acting as secretary to the
Manor and not know the dumping was
bcug done and asked whether the wit
ness WAS trying Ito shove II off on
Gov Saith" Mr. Whalen said he was
not. The Commissioner said that the
Holland firm was composed OF Edward
Holland and Michael II. Whalen, his
father.
After your father died who was in
terested In Holland a Cor
Edward b. Holland and myself"
"Now, this firm Of Holland & CO. had
The contract for ash removal from Four
tenth street TO the Battery. hadn IL
they"
"rhey had"
"Aud this IL the firm that dumped
those ashes into the Court House sitter"
~ don't know. j have not any knowl-
edge OF &C."
never heard Of ity'
Don't know whether they dumped
snything there or not
The firm only had five trucks as he
recalled the Commissioner said. He
said he got out OF the company In Au-
gust 1917, during tho last city cam
pa'g because he wanted 20 be free to
So Into politics. The business had BE.
come Improbable he said
80 before Mayor Hylan was elected
you were looking forward 10 his nonii-
nitIon and election and TO being his
secretary
The Commissioner said he did no.
know Mr. Hyan then Mr.. Holland be-
came sole owner Of the company. VIII ch
went out of business few months ago
the witness continued
And In August. 1917. you disposed OF
W. interest in that company"
VI did, tho Commissioner said.