New-York tribune., 1920-06-30
Herr Heineken
Hits Policy of
Britain on Sea
North German Lloyd Head
Here to Arrange for
Reopening of Trade
Routes; Wants u. S. Aid
He Declines to Predict
Says England Looks Upon
All Newcomers as Tres
passers; Quotes Pirrie

Great Brltain's so-called dream O.
sea supremacy and her fear of Ger
many as a shrewd and mighty riva
for first place as carrier of thu
worlds commerce formed the dominan
part of an interview given yesterday
by Philip Heineken, director genera
of the old North German Lloyd line
Herr Heineken arrived here on the
Nieuw Amsterdam from Rotterdam.
He comes here with other directors
of the line to parley with the United
States Shipping Board and private
steamship interests to get new lease
on life for the trade routes operated
by the North German Lloyd line be-
fore the World War
Herr Heineken is loud in his praise
of Americas efforts to become a great
maritime nation and says he is deslr-
Gus of giving her all the aid that lies
in his power. With the proffer Of this
aid he hopes to start anew the business
machinery of the North German Lloyd
that has lain rusty and idle for nearly
six years.
A week ago Dr.. Wilhelm Cuno, direc-
tor general of the Hamburg American
Line, returned to Germany after a sue
cessful deal with the Shipping Board
and the American Ship and Commerce
quired by the Hartman interests. DR..
Cuno came and went silently, saying
nothing for publication throughout his
stay of nearly six weeks.
Attacks Britain's Position
Hai ~
lied England as nation whose posi-
tion on the ocean had become so domi-
nant that any vigorous newcomer was
regarded by her as q trespasser. He
quoted Lord Pirrie, head of the Harland
& Wolff yards at Belfast, as saying
that the war had been a godsend to
Britain and her colonies and to the
United States, as Germany within
few years would have had control of
the shipping industries of the world.
Herr Heineken said he had no opin-
ions on the future of German shipping.
Il don't see how any one could find a
basis for an opinion in the existing
state of uncertainty" he said What
the conditions will be in the next few
years. it would be idle to discuss. AS
to the more distant future, | think it
better for US Germans not to venture
a forecast, but to leave it to others to
"a" IIeiT oWH CONCLUSIONS from the
facts Of the past
We have a duty which we owe
ourselves, however, and that is to see
that the distribution made by German
shipping In the advancement of over
seas commerce and travel is freed from
the cloud Of misapprehension which at
present dstorts the picture to our
prejudice. | am referring TO what I
may call the European picture. Here
in the United States the conditions
were different. Our efforts to provide
the best possible services in regard to
safety, comfort and speed were un-
grudglngly recognized here.
Government Aid Slight
Our achievements could not be de.
MED, but they were set down to state
aid. AS matter of fact, German
received less government sup
port than did the shipping of anv Other
nation"
Lord Pirre is too we'll Informed 70
round off his frank statement with the
usual tag that Germany's success in
shipbuilding and shipping was due to
state support Herr Heineken added
in the same interview, Lord Pirrie re-
!erTed TO his cooperation with the late
j. Plerpont Morgan to effect an Anglo
American community of shipping in
terests. But what was the result of his
iordship's attempt to let America par
tic.pate more largely in the world
shipping? The British government i'm