Indiana daily times. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1914-1922, 1920-11-08
NO AGREEMENT
DEVELOPED AT
EARLY SESSION
Heydler and johnson Factions
Threaten to Stand on
Original Proposals.
BASEBALL BEE BUSY
War Clouds Break as
Magnates Get Together

CHICAGO, Nov. S.--The first move for
the National and American League clubs
10 get together on a plan for reorgani-
cation of baseball was made shortly after
noon here today.
Five clubs, loyal to Ban Johnson, head
Of the American League, were represent
n at the meeting of that organization in
the Congress Hotel. The other three
American League club representat-v at
tended the meeting OF the National
League in another room of the Congress
Hotel.
As soon as the National League meet
ing got under, way a message was sent
TO Ban Johnson asking the five American
League clubs which have not lndorsed
the LaSker plan for reorganization to
send a representative TO the meeting Of
the National League
Clark Griffith, one OF the loyal iVe,"
went to the National League meeting.
Griffith was IN the National League
meeting about fifteen minutes. When he
came out he was accompanied by Col.
Jacob Rupert Of the New York Yam
KEGS, one Of the 'insurgent' American
League club owners. Rupert and
Griffith walked arm in arm to the meet
ing Of the loyal FIVE" Neither would
make a statement.
CHICAGO. Nov. s.-NatiOnal and
American League club owners IN annual
meetings here today were TO make tlnal
attempt to dOvetail their plans Ter re-
organization Of baseball.
Sessions of the two leagues scheduled
had as detectives plans to merge and
formulate a definite program for sub
mission to minor leagues in Kansas City
tomorrow, If hopes of both factions ma
terialiZe. There was 40 sign of rift
in either side early today, however, and
talk of a baseball war was revived with
fervor.
The threat Of organization of a twelve
club league will be carried through to-
day, National League interests an
Tnh "a
of the American League, and the Wash
tnEton, Detroit, st. Louis, Philadelphia
and Cleveland clubs consent to JOIN
their meeting.
HEYDLER AGAINST
BACK Padding.
THE door of the meeting will stand
open for one or all of them to enter,
John Heydler, president of the National
League, explained, but we viii make
no further profers Of peace.
We are willing to make concessions
to avert a disastrous baseball war-we
don't want war and we know the public
dOesn't-but we can't back paddle We
viii gladly receive a committee from
them and consider any counter proposal
or suggestions they have. We all agree
that baseball should be reorganiZed and
there should be some way to get to-
gether"
Others were not hopeful Of a COM
promise following a night of conference
with Clark Griffith and Tom Shibe or
the "lOyaI FIVE" American Leagues.
Griffith took the same position John
son has set-that the Eve remaintng CLUBS
constitute the American League and
should not agree to decisions of the New
York. Boston and Chicago clubs He
declared the reorganization proposes to
GUST Ban johnson and fauy stated he
would not participate.
CO0ISTY STILL
OPPOSES PLAN.
Charles a Comiskey, owner Of the Chi
cage White Sox. it was reported today,
declared he would not he a part OF the
American League as long as johnson
continued as its head.
Johnson before the American League
session, reiterated the demand that a
committee representing American, Ma
tional and minor league interests ar
range details of REORGANIZATION. He con
tended the Lasker plan was not prac-
ticai, but refused to predict what action
his league would take toward averting
war or fighting twelve-club league.
Both the factions declared they would
offer reorganization plans to the minor
lea que meeting III Kansas City II they
failed to agree on a combination OF ideas.
Minor le8guers on the side lines watch
ing the scrimmage today were divided.
START NEW CLUES,
SAYS GRIFFITH.
Following conferences with other
10y d1 aiUtL1[d4 LtbE UE AAaE uAlESi
Clark Griffith, owner OF the American
League Club in Washington, said In case
there is a baseball war and a new or
ganization Of twelve clubs is formed, the
American League viii start three new
clubs. These he said viii be placed In
Chicago, Boston and New York, where
the American League clubs which have
favored reorganization are located.
Griffith said promoters for the three
new clubs had been obtained and SUI
icient money was in sight to insure sue
cess.
The American League meeting was
postponed until late in the day TO give
Jacob Rupper a chance to attend. Ban
Johnson and his followers didn't have
nuch hope that Ripper was TO be pres
eRt at their meeting, but they wanted
. give him a chance Informal confer
ences between Johnson, Griffith and
others were held during the morning.
The Congress Hotel management with
an eye to safety of furniture, arranged
for the two big league meetings to be
held In extreme ends of the building, one
on the first floor and the other on the
top floor