The Manitowoc pilot. [volume] (Manitowoc, Wis.) 1859-1932, 1920-04-08
IRISH HOME RULE
MEASURE PASSED
Premier Says Erin'S Demand Is
for independence and
Secession.
PUTS BLAME ON AMERICANS
Sir Edward Carson Asserts Crime
Committed Recently in ireland
Is Work of Men From the
United States

London, April 1.-The house of com
mons passed the second reading of
the Irish home rule bill. The vote
was 34S to %.
Replying to arguments against the
bill, Premier Lloyd George declared
the government has every reason TO
be satisfied with the course Of the
debate, as 1t demonstrated that the
governments plan was the only one
that held the field.
The difficulty Of the problem said
the premier, was that no proposals
which would be acceptable to any
party in this country would be ac-
cepted by any party in Ireland. If
the people of Ireland were asked what
plan they would accep. declared
Lloyd George, they would say by an
emphatic majority: I'VE want indie
pendenCe and an Irish republic"
'fhe premier insisted there was no
use Of talking about self-determina-
ton. since those who supported 1t
must 20 to the full length of granting
an Irish republic.
Mr.. Lloyd George said no one had
accepted the plan Of former Premier
Asquth. Dealing with the suggestion
Of John X. Clynes, laborite, for con-
stituent assembly the premier EN-
phasi2ed that the previous Irish con
vention had failed, and asked If II
were likely that the assembly pro-
posed by Mr. Clynes would be any
more successful Since any proposal
which Irish opinion would by large
majority accept would not be accept
ed by any party in Great Britain. Mr..
Lloyd George declared, therefore the
government must exercise its judg-
ment for the United Kingdom and the
whole empire in order to come to the
wisest conclusion possible.
The premier reiterated his declara-
tion that the government plan held
the field because it recognized the
fact that the house would not satisfy
Irish opinion in its present state with
out destroying the essential unity Of
the kingdom The demand In Ireland
for the moment was for independence
and secession, not government.
Mr. Lloyd George said he wanted to
say to "our American friends that
Eamonn De Valera was putting for
ward the same claim in exactly the
same language rs jefferson Davis,
and that some Of the men who voted
for the Irish sclf-determination mo-
ton In the senate the other day had
ancestors who fought to death against
conceding to the Southern states of
America The very demand they are
now supporting for Ireland
The acceptance Of that demand de-
clared the premier would never come.
1t was q demand which, If persisted
in, he said, would lead to exactly the
same measures Of repression as in the
case Of the Southern states of Ameri-
ca. Great Britain, he declared, claimed
nothing more than the United States
had claimed for themselves,
Great Britain he added, would
stand on It's own legs,
There we're certain powers which
might be conferred upon Ireland when
she settled down to an established
union and accepted partnership with
the United Kingdom, said the premier
Sir Edward Carson's speech against
the bill was remarkable principally
because of his definite assertion that
the crimes recently committed in Ire
land We're the work Of men from
America.
The Ulster leader standing grim
and erect Immediately behind the eX-
trcme end of the government bench,
spoke with unmlstakable emphasis.