New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1920-08-06
Irish Crimes
Bill Passes
In Commons

CURED definite assertions regarding
the army, navy and ports, and the
position Of Ulster, which could not be
forced into n Home Rule parliament.
No disposition to accept such a so
luton, continued the Premier, was APP
parent in South and West Ireland On
the contrary, he said, the south and
west were demanding something Eng
land could never concede except as a
result of disaster and defeat. He be-
lieved there were hopeful indications
Of changing views concerning these
extravagant demands, but while the
campaign of outrage and murder con-
tinued he stated there was no alterna-
tive but the bill the government was
now proposing.
Hasty Methods Opposed
The rule to confine the debate in the
second reading of the Irish crimes bill
to four hours, with final action to-rHor-
row evening, was adopted after some
discussion. T. P: o'Connor, Sir Donald
MacLean, Mr.. Clynes and others, who
attacked the "hurry-up" method. de-
clared their attack was not aimed
against the bill itself. but contenGeA a
measure removing constitutional rights
of British citizens by the denial OF trial
by jury" should be granted freer dis
cussiOn.
Mr.. O'Connor asserted that with
twenty coercion bills passed by Parlia-
ment in the last 12G years the least
time for debate on any was twenty-one
days.
Mr. Bonar Law pleaded for quick
action because Of what he termed the
necessity for setting up a sort of court
system in Ireland immediately"
Premier Lloyd George was told at
his conference with the Irish deputa-
ton he received yesterday that great
progress has beer made among Irish
Unionists during the last few months
in favor of a broad policy giving self
island, says "The London Times" in
reporting the meeting, The deputation
was unanimous and strong in its de-
nunciation of the governments Irish
crimes bill and was also strongly OPP
posed to any scheme for the partition
Of the island. Fiscal autonomy was
also demanded.
Captain Harrison, secretary of the
Irish Dominion League, submitted on
behalf of the delegation plan based
upon recognition Of the dominion
status of Ireland, followed by the in
auguration Of constituent assembly
elected on a system Of proportional
representation on q wide democratic
franchise.
He also suggested the six counties
Of Ulster should be entitled, after con-
snltation, to vote themselves out Of an
all-Ireland scheme, subjec. % the right
OF the rest of Ireland TO withdraw any
concessions offered by a majority of
the Irish people for the purpose of Sc
curing the adhesion of Ulster.
From, The Tribuncs European Buroau
Copyright. 1920, New York Tribune Inc
LONDON. Aug. 5.-Prior to the de
bate in the House to-day on the Irish
bill Premier Lloyd George reiterated
the announcement he had made that
Archbishop Mannix, of Melbourne, Aus
tralia would not be permitted to enter
ireland. There were cheers from the
Unionists, and tne rest of the chamber
was silent.
Sir Edward Carson and his Ulster
lieutenants sat behind the Premier and
Bonar Law during the debate, while On
the opposite benches sat Mr. Asquith
and Sir Donald Mclean. The Liberal
leaders were thanked by J. r. Clynes,
other Labor mem bers and a little band
Of Nationalists, John Devlin and T. 7.
O'Connor, the last members Of the once
powerful Irish party.
Lady Nancy Astor sat near Devlin
and seemed embarrassed as the Irish
torrent OF abuse of the government,
and prophesed that it would be COM
PEELED eventually by the force of opin-
ion in America, Australia, Canada and
Ireland to grant the very demands
which it now refused.
The government has no intention Of
granting dominion home rule, certain
ly not independence, and consequently
there will be dark days ahead for Ire
land
The opponents of coercion have
charged the government with settling
an army OF occupation in Ireland, but
it is declared that it would be impos-
sible to restore order in this way, for
1t would make every one an enemy
However, there are still forces in Ire
land working for compromise
"A big reception for Archbishop Man
nix is being arranged at Liverpool
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