The Washington herald., 1920-12-09
Says England and America
Due for Eventual Struggle
Miss MacSwiney Tells Hearers United States
Cannot Forever Stand BY
In Silence,

"we of the Irish nation are going
to get our freedom. You cannot
keep in continual slavery a people
every one of whom Is ready 20 die
for his country"
With this declaration, Miss Mary
No cSwiney, sister Of the Lord Mayor
CT Cork. concluded her yesterdays
Testimony before the unofficial
American commission investigating
conditions in ireland. For several
hours before and after noon, she
held in alternate suspense and ap-
plause a throng that filled every
available place in Odd Eel lpws Hall
One ofSthe most interested listentrs
was Mrs. Terence iacSwiasy. widow
OF the Lord Mayor. whD SAT- at the
witness table and who is scheduled
20 testify before the commission
today.
Among the statements made b.,
Miss MacSwiney which created 4
seusstion were a virtual prophesv
of conflict between Great Britain and
the United States and 4 frank sd-
mission that Irelan'! willingly would
have allied herself with Germany in
the endeavor to throw OF the domi-
nation OF England. -.
You americans have not made
the world safe for democracy" she
said. You have made It safe only
f'r the British Emp e for short
time. The spectacle of England
grabbing all the coal, oil and other
natural wealth of fhe earth, regard
less of oyur rights and protestations,
is now before your eyes. The situa-
| t.nn iS drifffne- n
ciusion. 1 do not believe they will
be able to subjugats the United
states as hey have frequently sub
jugated and oppressei ireland and
othcr small. weak nations"
OF the German alliance" which
she. maintained had never taken
place ''as asserted by the British" /"
she declared.
I'VE are not pro-German in Ire
land, but we have a desperate fight
o inland with a powerful and relent-
less foe. 1t was only justice that
we should seek advantageous al
liances where we can, just as
America sought and obtained an al
lance with France in her struggle
for independence"
The British system of justice in
ireland has broken entirely down,
Miss MacSwiney said. in telling OF
the alleged expressions and bar
barities practised in the Emerald
Isle.
Everybody, Unionist and Sim
Feiner alike, take their cases to the
Sim Fein, courts" she declared.
The British magistrates sit in
lonely grandeur, surrounded by
\ &c
bags and crowds of soldiers, but
| they have n ocases to try. The
Sim Fein courts are operating in at
least 30 per cent of Ireland"
Touching on possible American
aid in the present situation, she
said she is informed that there are
t'three things which may ALLEVIATE
your sympathy" She NAMED them
as .the bogey of religious intoler-
ance." the shooting of policemen and
the matter of guarantees to Eng
land that Ireland will not menace
her.
"As for the religious question"
she summed up there never has
been any religious persecution by
the Irish and never will be. There
is large Jewish quarter in Dublin
and another in Cork. but they are
not prosecuted in any way. Our
President has recently given
thorough assurance on the point of
English security. As for the mur-
ders of policemen, there are no such
murders. No unarmed policeman
has been shot in ireland who has
not been a proved spy"
l DIR. Frederick G.. Howe. former
Immigration Couzaisaiouar, Of GsH