The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-10-21

untermyer. II am as familiar with
- system as you are and / might pro-
S illnesses to the contrary"
.11oned regarding the legal service
ne gave his clients. Mn Hettriclx said
thac he examined the estimates, and as
an illustratior he said that if six plumb
ing contractors put in bids OF about $780,
oOc and one contractor bid only $4,000
he would know that THE man who bid
$4,000 had made a mistake"
u see,% said Mr. Untermyer. "To
underbid is a mistake. AS their legal
adviser, you(jack them up event.
NO" said Mr. Hettrick. These con-
tractors make mistakes. They overlook
things in the specifications. and l advise
:se,'' That they are wrong"
Oh said Mr.. Untermyer, you have
been advising these plumbers just for
eighteen months and You mean to sit
here and tell me that you can tell men
experienced a lifetime that they have
made a mistake in their business"
Yes" replied the witness.
@Are you plumbing ,awyer or legal
plumber" asked Mr.. Untermyer. Where
upon the tw" grinned at each other.
Mr.. Hettrick viii resume his testimony
to-day He has been asked TO furnish
the names. numbers and the volume Of
business done by his clients.
Robert P. Prindell. president OF the
Building Trades Council. admitted at the
morning session. that from the Dock
Builders Union alone, which he repre-
sents as business agent. he gets an in
come of 80 cents a month IRON each
OF the members. Mr.. Untermyer asked
If. when there were from $500 TO 1900
members in the organiza ton, his income
would not be about $1,000 year? Mr..
Brindell said he guessed that was about
right
The building at 70 st. Marks place
used by the Building Trades Council as
headquarters is the property OF Mr..
Brindells wife, according to his testi-
mony, and is rented for $1,000 a year.
Brindell said that fifteen years ago
he was a clerk in drug store at Provi-
dence, r. l.. but that as a boy he worked
on the docks in Canada and first be-
longed to a union when he was thirteen
years old. He denied that either he or
his organization was at present inter-
ested in politics. but admitted. on beiny
pressed by Mr.. Untermyer. that he pre-
sided at a labor meeting Tuesday at
which the candidacy of District Attor-
ney Edward Swami for Supreme Court
Justice was Endorsed
AS he was leaving the stand rfter be-
ing advised that the committee would
like to examine the councils records
Brinden said:
II viii send you down o-t SAFES If yon
like.
I'VE do not want yours or any body
elee's safes" replied Mr.. Entermyer.
AT thos point there vas Il committee
In the back Of the chanlLcr and a loud
voice called to Brindell not to answer
any more questions. The nan said he
was John OConnor, an attorney. of 81
Broadway. He SAIL .-he represented
Brindell and other labor men, aad that
III witnesses We're not shown more
courtesy he would advise ali other rep
resentativesr Of labor 10 refuse TO tes-
tify." w.
Referring TO the incident MIR. Inter 1
myer said -en-i
THE boisterous gentleman. whose
name / did not gather, has sought to
create the false impression that some
of the questions asked one of the Wit
nesses involved or implied a proposed !
attack upon organized labor. This Is |
not true. Nothing is further from our
thoughts, although it may become nee !
essary in the eourse-ef-the inquiry to
expose abuses that are injuring the |
legitimate cause of organized labor, just |
as il will be necessary TO expose un- |
lawful combinations and, like abuses |
that infest the building materials trade, /
all Of which are retardings discouraging I
and adding 10 the coSt~Qr new construc- |
ton"
The first witness-was Samuel B. Don
nelly, secretary OF the Building Trades |
Employers Association. The associa- |
ton is made up of $50 employers of
building trades laborers numbering So
900. Mr.. Untermyer questioned Mr. Dom |
nelly about the contract With ff1e-'
Building Tmdes Council, which was
broken last spring and new contract
ALLOWING a 10 per cent. increase. in
wages. Mr. Donnelly said in substance
that the bricklayers. who were not a
party to the contract, were AWARDED
$40 day by Mayor Hylan, acting as
an umpire, and that the carpenters felt
restless at that. as they were getting
only s. a day. lie insisted, however,
that the increase was given voluntarily
and not under duress. t..r.F,
The hearing will be resumed at 10
o clock this morning.