New-York tribune., 1920-12-10
Cluck Testifies
Arnstein W
Bond Fence
Ex.Messenger of Bank Tells
of Trips to Big Cities, Ac-
companied by Cohn, to
Sell Paper Stolen Here
Planned to Try Europe
Says He Delivered Crucible
Steel and Baldwin Shares
to Pair in Philadelphia

WASHINGTON, Dec. 9.--Continuine
MS testimony in the trial Of Jules w
;Aicky) Arnstein and others, charged
with conspiring to bring stolen securi-
ties into the District Of Columbia
Joseph Chuck, formerly bank mes
se,ger in New York. too day described
Visits he made to Boston, Philadelphia
and Baltimore TO dispose of blocks of
securities obtained by him from Wall
Street runners. Nicl. Cohn, the miss
ins defendant. went with him. Glucls
said, ard they met Arnstein at their
destination in each case.
The witness said that Arnstein was
introduced to him as man who had
outlets for stolen securities all over
the United States and in Canada, and
that Cohn had suggested Chicago,
among other cities, as u place for
placing some Of the stocks. The posi-
eilsy Of Ii trip to Europe to dispose
- large quantities OF the stolen paper
$50 was suggested At oac time, accord
.s2g 10 G!uck.
Met Arnstein in Philadelphia
On cross-cxam nation tho defense
brought out that Gluck had participat-
ed In several similar transactions be-
tore he had met any of the defendants
N the present case, and that his visit
tc the Wall Street district on October
l. when particularly valuable lot of
securities were handed to him was
made with the knowledge that efforts
would be made to steal some stocks
and bonds.
GlucS testified that he was promised
q fiat payment of per cent of the mar
ket value of the securities turned over
by him, and said he received, in all,
$500 from the lot brought to Wash
ington October IA. Gluck said that on
q trip to Boston he met Cohn and Arm
stein and turned over to the former 100
shares Of American Smelters preferred,
$50 shares of common of the same COM
Eanv, Two $1,000 bonds OF the Iowa Cen
trai Railroad and 200 shares of Ohio
Cities Gas. lie said he received be-
tween $4,000 and $4,000 IS his share
,. tho proceeds.
The witness testified further t.lat he
r'et Cohn and Arnsteiii IN Philadelphia
last November or 3. when he de-
iiyered 200 shares o. CruciLle Steel
md odd lots. of Baldwin locomotive.
Wants Jurico Dismissed
John s. Hamilton, vic, president Of
tla Pacific Bank, New York, ;dcuti.iel
--.lsseiu IS the man he had known
nee 1918 j. " Arnold, with 2n ac-
sc.sns - the bank for several years.
iae defense objected on the ground
~. Hamilton could not certify to the
-9rrectness Of the Arnold account
There is witness in the courtroom
40 knows whether they are accurate"
ASST stan District attorney Archer
x i'd
- Counsel fer ;Ee defense characterized
rris rema1. as "rroSsly Improper" ara
demanded Dismissal CT the jury because
9! the "infsconduct." Justice Gould re-
fused, but instructed the jury TO ignore
The remark.
This witness aid the Arnold account
RAD balance of sl2.42 OIL Septeml'or
20. hu- during October The record
sscwed n,s-"erous DEPOSITS Of s., 900 aad
5000. Is was during tnis period, the
's-osscusi sicn alleges. that Inc stolen
bonds were beirg disposed OF.
Tse trial viii be resumed tomorrow.