The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-10-31
WRITER PREDICTS
COLLAPSE OF REDS
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temporarily will be crushed, but hopes
that the British troops will be so de-
Inoralized in process OF time that when
taken back TO England TO fire on their
own fathers and brothers among strikers
that they will refuse to fire and that.
that will be beginning OF the ending.
The omnipotent Five who rule Russia
are extraordinarily confident that we are
at the commencement OF a movement
which may have setbacks. including the
crushing. temporarily. OF the Russian
Soviet Government. but which must end
in the dictatorship of the proletariat.
They point at the long period taken By
the French Revolution to get under way
and to the seventy years taken by the
Protestant Reformation, but Trotzky
thinks that the present Bolshevist move
ment will be much quicker and adds that
he Is convinced II will ultimately
triumph throughout the world.
Expects Triumph Ultimately.
Trotzlsy said 'The proletariat, his
torically, is q rising plant and all re-
preston against IL will ultimately fail
The last phase OF world history saw the
triumph Of the bourgeoisie over their
kings and the present phase will end In
the triumph OF the workers over the
bourgeo.sle.'
IL is impossible TO eyaggerate the
confidence with which he speaks. al
though he confesses that neither he nor
Lenine may live 70 see the ultimate trl-
Jmph Leniuc IS greatly disappointed
with the British labor delegates. who
amused him by their horror ct his calm
suggestion that they should revolt and
sack the foreign Office in order 10 dis
cover secret treaties
"I told them Z was the only way 10
find out the clicanery and fraud b.
which they were governed" he said.
1--WE did that, and we discovered that in
our foreign office and in the Romanoft
archives there was such mess OF
nendacity and corruption that the con-
mission employed in the collection OF
material probably VIII he unable TO
Issue a report for six months yet.
eve hare got number OF old regime
| diplomatists working on this business.
They came back from Paris with their
tails between their legs. I could not
convince the English delegates that il
| similar search were made in the English
Royal and Foreign Office archives the
| resultant disclosures would be so appall-
ing that the English prolctariat would AZ
once cast aside it's superstitious respect
for royalty as in the seventeenth century
1t cast aside It's respect for the saints
| relics. BY this exposure which we are
going to make, Russia will bust The
| king business here forever.
I'VE found the British delegates quite
incapable OF taking a broad view of these
| matters. They have an amazing ignor-
| ance OF general principles, ~ well as OF
social science. and their minds are fixed
exclusively on petty things, like the or
gani2ation of strikes. and they cannot
rise to the contemplation of greet r. IL
eral principles and OF profound =. r
sophical truths which will yet chang.
the face OF the world. Nothing can over
be done for the proletariat by taking
narrow views and tinkering with small
matters. like output and wages. One
must have q vast scheme In mind and
be prepared TO sweep away the whole
social system in order TO put that scheme
into practice. 1t is a waste of time and
also a danger TO patch up n cunous
house. Better tear down and dig up the
very foundations, ard start new
building.
Miss Panlzhurst is almost the only
English person who understood me, and
she shared my views"