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Haymarket theatre, when Referee
Johnny Meyers gave draw deci-
SION at midnight, stopping the
match.
Demetral won the first fall in
$500. aad Linow had a head-hoid
OF Dematral when the referee STOP
PED tho mach. Scenery. box cur
t4.as, foct..g hts and other decora-
tons were tern down and smashed
by the audience, which ciamored
against tie hating OF a finish"
match by draw DECISION. Mem
bers of a bu-lsQue chorus VINO had
remained to watch ;hs wrestling,
bsrricaded themselves in their
dressing rooms as the crowd surged
onto the stage, kicking holes
+! through the scenery.
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JUNIORS SPREAD
BASKET THRILLS
Defeat Seahinarians In Augustana
InterclAss Tourney and Earn
Right to Meet Ssphs.

The Juniors defeated the Sem
marian basketball team last night
in the interclass basketball tourna-
ment of Augustana college by a
score of Z to 6. The game was one
of the closest played in the tourna-
ment and at the end Of the first
half it seemed that the Seminarians
had a little edge on the under class
men, the score standing to 2 IN
their favor.
In the second half the juniors
took a squirt, gaining a 1-point lead
on the SENS and retained that lead
till the final whistle. Neither team
showed much basketball form, the
game being mainly contest be-
tween Rydholm of the Juniors aud
Gladd of the Seminarians.
Meet TIE SephG
BY virtue Of their victory last
night the Juniors win the right to
meet the Sophomores in the semi
finals. The Sophs should have no
trouble disposing of the Juniors
and in the event of this victory will
advance to the final round Of the
tournament.
The Freshmen continued their
winning streak by trouncing the
Commercials, AZ to 10. The game
was not as one-sided as the score
would indicate, however, the book
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
Navy ELEvENS
BATTLE TODAY
Great Lakes Football Team TO o.
poso Quantico In Baltimore
To be Great Ceremony.

Baltimore, Md, Dec. THE foot
ball team Of the Quaptico (va) ma
rine station will clash with the
Great Lakes training station eleven
On Homewood field. Johns Hopkins
university. this afternoon, and all
indications point to record-break-
ing attendance.
Three thousand marines and q
detachment Of troops from the army
post at Camp Holabird will march
to Homewood after being reviewed
by Major Broenig at the city hall.
Secretary of the Navy Daniels,
Major General Lejeune. command
er Of the marine corps, Rear Ad-
miral Scales, and other high off,
GERS Of the navy are expected to- at
tend the game.
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four ARE TIED Al.
IN cue BATTLE
Kieckheicr, De Orc, Maupome and
DAILY, Tied for Fourth Place, u si
Get Another Chance.

Chicago, Dec. 4.-Play-off o: the
four-cornered tie for third place
in the preliminaries in the wofld'a
three-cushion billiard champions
ship tournament today gave AuEie
Kieckhefer of Chicago, Alfredo ~
Orc of New York, Pierre MaupomA'
of Milwaukee. Wis. and John Daily.
Of New York another chance to
qualify for the finals. which Will
start Tuesday. .
The title Of Bob Cannefax Will
be challenged by Johnny Layton Of
st. Louis, first in the preliminaries.
and Clarence Jackson Of Kansas
City, who placed second and the
survivor in the play-off for third
place. .
Kieckhefer meets DAILY this after
noon at 2 o'clock. and De Orc
clashes with Maupome at $3.50 p. n.
One night game will be placed
with De Orc, If he wins. meeting
the loser Of the first game. while
il he is beaten the Cuban will play
the winner of the opening match.
Third place will play the winner
500. fourth $500, fifth $500. ana
sixth $780,
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IN MOLINE STRUGGLE

keepers putting up . Aeht Of which
thsy Hn wall b proud. ne Hresh-
man VIII now meet the winners q
tho seuior-Seminarian game.
Hiek Seniers 10 Win.
The Seniors are doped to hand tie
SENS defeat. and then tho
FreshisS will have smother battle
royal with the upper ciassmen. Tho
Seniors nosed out victors in the
first game Of the tournament when
they won from the Freshmen by q
score Of II to Is, but the Under
classmsn have high hopes Of turn
ing the tables in Tuesdays game.
There will be no games played
today. The Seniors viii battle with
the Ssminarisns Monday night aud
It Is probable that the Junior Soph-
omore game will also be played at
that time. 1t is planned to COM
piste the tournament before the end
OF next week.
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CHICAGO ALLEY
TEAMS LEADINe
Luby Proves High Roller In Singles
LIS Entries Scheduled To.
day-Rnds Tonight.

St. Louis. Mo-, Dec. chicago
bowlers were still leading In al
divisions as the contestants In the
middle west bowling tournament re-
sumed play today.
F1orrie Luby tops the singles
with 657: e. Krems and A. Bugen-
hagen, doubles. 1.z44; A. H. Ar
mold and brothers. flve-team. 1882
and Kfems. all-events. l.77s.
More than It's entries were
scheduled today. the list bsing one
Of the largest sof the tournament.
The team race 10 to be concluded
tonight and the singles and doubles
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By DEAN SNYDER.

BY DEAN SNYDER.
Tradition plays big part in the
athletic activities of all schools.
And the trophies, representing
these, are the most highly prized
assets Of any institution
At the University Of Michigan
much Of the Wolverines football
enthusiasm centers in the Little
Brown Jug"
The famous Little Brown jug"
the trophy that has figured in the
gridiron battles between Michigan
aDd Minnesota dating back to 1903
once more rests in Ann Arbor.
The Yostmen retrieved it from the
Gophers on Nov. 20 by the low
score Of 3 to 0.
Few cups mean more or are con-
tested for more strenuously by any
college or university than this his
Ftoric bit Of crockery.
Story OF the jug.
In 1903 the Wolverines met the
Gophers at Northup field in what
was conceded to be the biggest
game Of the football year. The
previous year Michigan had beaten
Minnesota 23 to 6. Hence the Go
pher eleven was out to wipe out
the sting Of defeat.
Michigan had her famous point
a-minute" eleven then and Coach
Williams men had been running up
large scores.
Eastern critics spoke Of western
football as being too much an Of
fensive game and that it was weak
on defense. They prophesied a
large score by both teams. But
their forecast went wrong.
Days Of Heston.
The longest run during the his
toric clash was only for IL yards
made by Heston of Michigan, tina,
famous player who is still talked OF
Neither team scored until the
last 10 minutes Of play. Michigan
counted first. getting but six points
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With two minutes left to play, Min
nesota tied the score with a touch
down, but the enthusiastic Gopher
supporters thronged the field so
rapidly that the officials were pow
erless to have the game continue.
utilization!
After great jubilation one Of
the Gopher trainers appeared in the
athletic directors Office with the
jug he had taken from the Wolver-
inc quarters in the gym. The jug
was labeled "The Michigan jug"
and the score had been painted on
it. A big six represented the Min
nesota score and a much smaller
six marked up Michigan's score.
That's how the rivalry began
They christened the bit of homely
crockery the Little Brown Jug
with the agreement that the win
ner Of each years football game
should carry off the trophy.
Jug Comes Home.
Intense feeling between the
! schools had reached such a pitch
that no game was scheduled be-
tween them until 1909, when the
Wolverines won Is to 6 and
brought the jug back to Ann Arbor
where it remained until 1919.
Last year the Gophers buried
the Yostmen "a to Z and for the
second time took the Little Brown
| jug" back to Minneapolis.
But the Michiganders brought
it home with them a few weeks age
after a torrid game.
The old paintings on the jug will
be removed and the large ms" il
the colors of the two schools will
be painted on opposite Sides max
ing room for the scores of the pas
and future.
The Little Brown Jug" is nov
on exhibition in Ann Arbor and il
probably the most coveted and wei
known trophy in the Michigan gym
nasium.
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CODE ChANcEsA
CONSIDERED b
BIC TO- bol1||


Chicago, Dec. 4.-Representafis
Of the big Ten universities sa12||
cred here today to award dssss -
indoor and outdoor track An 9l9!l
meets, arrange the 1891 fooelE
schedule and transact other
ters pertaining to the business ~
fairs of the organization. ssi5
Faculty members. coaches 80
athletic directors Of the wesferA
college conferences were arrivt4
this morning. prepared to make TIN
gathering the most notable iAy
Changes Forecast illEsi
Coaching changes are forecaeeed
by critics and the numbering oe
players for gridiron contests ID one
important matter to be settled "A
the meeting.
Uniform Interpretation Of basksts
ball rules by coaches will be held
by coaches under direction OF IL
Cook, chairman OF the conference
basketball association. A proposals
ton OF a "held ball"--a ball he'll
under a basket to be taken out =
certain distance for the tip-on-to-
gether with the question Of return-s
ing . player to the game who has
once been retired may come befcre
the basketball mentors for consul
Grafton. .lg
Faculty Committee. q
|, The faculty committee will 60 into
session early. Among the profess
sors who are attending are: Albion
W. Small, Chicago; James Paige
Minnesota; Thomas F. Moran, Puf-
due; Thomas E. French. OAtc
State; J. F. A. Pyre. Wisconsin
r. w. Aidgar. Michigan; DR.. Pren-
tiss, Iowa; o. F. Long, Northwegtr
ern; W. J. Moenkhaus. Indiana. and
DR.. C. A. Goodenough, Illinois. ~
Chicago alumni Representatives
will entertain the various faculty
members at dinner at the conclu-s
sion Of the meeting. il
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04

Several Of the Rock Island Inde-
psndents, their own season having
closed last Sunday, will take sides
smsns those old Moline rivals. the
Athletics and Indians, tomorrow
sftssnoon on Browning field, Mo-
line In what is expected to evolve
~ Of the toughest as well As best
football games In the tri-cities this
yaf.
Ole Smith and Waddy Kuehl
will BE- In the regular Indian line
up while the Rock Islanders
anong the Athletics will be Paddy
Quinn, Eat" Smith and Louie
KaAls. Thsre might be several last
minute changes in the lineups Of
both teams in which other indie
Dsadents will figure, according to
Manager "Curley" Anderson OF the
Athlstics.
Athletics Favored.
Inc dope is inclined to favor the
more seasoned Athletics and they
are generally conceded as winners,
although the Indians will give them
The hardest game Of the season
With good fighting chance to win.
The basis Of contention is the Ath-
lsdcs' victory over the Kewanee
Walworths, when the best the In
dams could do against the Kewa-
le1ans was q tie score, 90.
!. However, according to Manager
Snyder of the In1uns. the Athlet-
Let victory is attributed to the fact
that the Walworths were crippled
nadly for the game. whereas, In the
Indian game. the Kewaneeans were
IN their full strength. The Ath-
letics have played almost q full
schedule against some Of the best
nearby teams. They lost credit
ably to the Staleys and Chicago
Cards. Tomorrow they will carry
the odds.
Game ct ESQ.
The game will begin 1t 2:30 p.
=. Carl Anderson Of Grinnell will
Be referee; Dick Lift Of Rock Is
land, umpire. and Polly" Koch Of
davenport, head linesman, making
II An out-and-out tri-city affair.
bufiingame, last year with the
IA C.s. plays in the Indian back
aeld. Kimball, Indian fullback.
Iofmefly with the Independents, is
IN islander.
HOLMES and Miller, two members
" the Athletic crew, hail from DAY.
IMPORT Harris, former Detroit uni
wuity man, also resides across the
river.
Rsck Island Stars Playing.
vuinn, kohls and Whistler hail
uOm Rock Island. Whistler play
y With Rock Island high in 1916
~. ne later played with the Mo-
Mne hedmen. Valentine formerly
a,eo In Rock Island and played
.na Augustana college. Ed Swan
four years.
~ Soderstrom, center, played with
Ns"ne neomen and starred with
u.'oe nigh. Burns played the last
~ years with Ames. Widerquist
ssyeo With Northwestern and the
,.;1 o,vision team overseas. Wood
81 played with the d. A. C.s and
rmen. Sullivan and Allen are
"'mef st. Ambrose men.
49, Little. But Oh. MY!
"o,ton, l45-pound halfback, will
me speediest man on either
An. IN Peoria they called him
'eond Stinchcomb. Donovan
snn,; IAppy lineman and expert
p .opp Last season he beat
M. A With two dropkicks, one 30
"sus, the other SIS wards
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
NATIONAL LEAGUE
MEETING FOR DEC. II

New York. Dec. 4.-Unitsd
ess).-Call for the annual Na,
tional league meeting has BEEN sent
out BY President John Heydler for
Dec. II.
Tue. Joint committees Of The two
major leagues and Of the miners
are to meet here Dec. II. with,
Judge Landr. to talk over the new
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
SPORTING ,JAZ7
BY BRUCE COPELAND
The Bills.

apologies to E. A. Poe)
Here's the postman with the bills
( Monthly bills!
What world of agony their heralding instils!
How they blight you, smite you, bite you
In the region of your purse
AS your creditors draw closer
Butcher, baker, merchant, grocer
You feel ready for hearse;
Filled with woe, woe, woe,
There seems no place else to go
But the poorhouse. There is something
Which the joy of living kills
In the bills, bills, bills, bills,
Bills, bills, bills
In those od-forgotten, awful rotten bills
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WAIVERS ISSUED
ON HENDRIX AND
CHARLIE HERZOG

Chicago. Dec. 4.-(United Press)
Reports were today that the Cubs
had asked waivers on Claude Hen
dirk. pitcher, and Buck Herzog, in
fielder.
These two men were mentioned
during the Cook county grand fury
Investigation into gambling on
baseball.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
SCHANCES /
ARE HELD Good
Football Star Slightly Improved,
But Has Not Passed Crisis,
Physicians Say.

South Bend, Ind, Dec. 4.-(Unifed7
Press.)-The condition Of George
Gipp, star Notre Dame footban
player. who has been critically NJ
here for the last week. was report
ed slightly improved today.
Attending physicians reported
Gimp rested easily during the last
"a hours, and although the cflsiss
has not passed they believe M
chances for recovery are good.
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s@-WESTERN
FOOTBALL TEAMS
IN NEW ENGLAND

na,a s,0n. Mass. Dec. 4.-Three
49,. ..l teams. representing middle
r,;S,.a a schools. were prepared for
,nro. on battles with high school
nn ns in New England today.
raai academy Of Chicago had
~ue VITA St. James high school
F.. nsverhill, Mass: cleveland
~ technical was scheduled to
~ ~ ntchburg. Mass, and the
S. ,sa from Elgin. ILL.,. to meet
loru' at Stamford, Conn,
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
CALIFORNIA DEFIES
WORLD FOR BATTLE
NEXT THANKSGIVING

Los Angeles, Cal, Dec. "A chal-
lenge to any college or university
football team in the United States,
middle western or western pre-
ferred, to meet the University of
Southern California here next
Thanksgiving day, was issued last
night by Henry Bruce, graduate
manager.
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bULlDOcS|bhRk
FOR n. WORKERS


New York. Dec. l.-Whited
Prsss}.-Nsw- York and it, neigh
borhOod will b introduced to pro-
fessional football today whom Jim
Thorpe's Canton Bulldog team
meets the Buffalo All-0tars at the
Fairgrounds.
From the advance sale Of tickets
1t 10 expected between 5000 and
ID. 900 spectators will zee the game.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04

Warnie Harding could run Harry
Houdini a close race. Didn't he get
out Of all the locks in the Panama
canal? ~
Some Of our best astronomers are
overlooking an exceptional oppor-
tunity by avoiding the theatres.
Perhaps il they weakened once in
a while, they could find armfuls Of
nice, new stars.
It used to come from the country,
but now the city spreads the call Of
the Wild-wOmen.
Whenever their wives kiss them
goodbye, most husbands don't stop
to think whether it's q threat or a
promise.
THE EASIEST WAY.
0, the moonshine's fair tonight
Along the Goulash,
Every minute Of the time
A pint 10 born;
Through the sycan0res you'll
see
The wiseguys who cash
On the tanks Of Green River
Filled with corn.
| Kissing sure is dangerous. i
cost . friend Of ours $4,000 one
time, but somehow it didn't cur,
him.
Perhaps mOonshine does reGll,
improve with age-whea 1t gets /
! chance.
| Billy Sunday told about guy VII,
found religion over a telephone, blu
that's where I lost mine.
/ NCREDULOUS.
! I owed . guy . dollar;
He said l svas q fAko
I, To henr that boxo heller,
| You'd think 1t was . steak.
A full cellar might take up con
siderable room, but 1t sure make
J, . guy . lot Of boozem friends.
4 %
| PROPNQUITY.
| Beautiful Lily, Beautiful Lily,
| Yeufe The only d-d.d-Arink
! thaf hold dear!
| when the A.meenshine's over
Ten dollarA
| I'll Be waiting for they
/ t-t-ttoll you're NEAR
Cheer up! 1t will soon b sof
drinks for = hard winter!
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RIOT STAGED BY
DRAW DECISION
wrestling Bszs Between Greeh
Demon ed Jack L.SGw Causes
Slough House" at Theatre.

Chicago, Dec. 4.-Patrons Of a
wrestling match between Will.an
Demetral. the Greek Demon" and
Jack Linow. billed as the Russian
Lion" staged a "Haymarket riot"
which drew scores Of police to tho
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04
NATIVE SONS

..oana. ILL.,, Dec. 4.-Evsryons Of
a@-string lllini eleven are res
Of the state. In California
call EN- native soma.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04

Some bills have. such heightened
figures they ought 70 be called Will
liams. Sd
Even wills cannot keep away from
the women. You might duck one
Just once, but the next time he'll
bring his Sue along.
Bills cause ills which need pills
for chills and. occasionally, one
kills. "a
You might not b e1txayagant, but
weak bills don't cone around every
week.
The name Of Mary's well-known
lambs must have been Bill, Judging
from the way he followed her
around.
THE LAST FLAW.
There was o fair h1y In
Lansing,
Who ever was strong for
ronAAcing.
Twas siasie they thought
But she I'D . la.g4ter,.
So now she Aht " en-
taAe;ne.
: II yoy must eat onions, be sure
never % breathe it to a soul.
/ We don't know what Harry Fitz.
sinens would Ike best for Christ.
mas, but 4 sswed-o2 shotgpn fol-
jaywalkeEJ ought to b acceptable,
Young men are advised to marty
young and settle down. The $50
FOUNDER Who took IN S0o-pound
bride the other day, must bo goino
to use her for ballast
!, A well-hoWn soap adves .isea tn
slogan, "A Skin Y0u Love to Touch >
What skiAi Why, Relle. Il mast b
. skin game
The horse might eventually fada
out but wherever We 20 we vii
always hear her girlish laughter.
4 %
! AMT NATC8E BLUNDERPCLe
i There was N Old sapAsaA in
Sec,
WAs nsithr was merry Nor
j Bst Id 9. svsry night
i And sDe0d his lAGt nits
! As long = tAey paayel
baf3e9e1e.
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04

This historic bit Of erockery has made trips
tween Ann Arbor and Minneapolis homes of
The winner Of each yeaTs game cey the Brown Jug
fall Needless this jugwh history days
Of 1903 and the most ighy
gym right
The Rock Island Argus and daily union. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1920-1923, 1920-12-04

Cheer up! 1t will soon BE- soft
drinks for . hard winter!
The Chicago whip. (Chicago, Ill.) 1919-19??, 1920-12-25
Book Reviews
THE NEGRO FACES AMERICA

THE NEGRO FACES AM EklSA
Editorial Note-The WHIP here
with reproduces Baker Brownelrs
review of Herbert Seligmann's new
book for the Chicago Daily News.
The WHIP by no means agrees with
Mr.. Brownells opinion as to the wis
dom of accepting Seligmann's under
lying thesis, but as summary OF the
contents of the book, this review Will
be interesting to readers OF the
WHIP.
THE NEGRO FACES AMERICA.
By Herbert ]. Seligmann. Harper.
This humane book faces the race
problem with more than usual con-
sistency. By defining the problem as
no race problem at all but a group OF
individual, economic and emotional
Embellishments raised falsely on a
racial basis. Mr.. Seligmann reduces
the question to level with other
workable problems OF democratic
government. The book in detail. with
its record OF mass injustice, lynchlng.
economic oppression, peonage and
brutal Indifference 10 the human
rights OF American citizens, is bitter
insight into the hypocrisy of much
that we term democracy. But the
large outlook OF the book is optimis-
sic.
Mr.. Seligmann's rationalism rejects
intuitions and their emotional deriva-
tives called prejudices. His conse-
qucnt cosmopoltanism though liber-
ally humane has fatness and
"degeneracy" about it that IS hard
for our aspiring Teutonic tribes 10
accept. He palliates, ii he does not
urge, race mixture as the eventual
outcome OF good race relationships.
and he brings to his support a power
full biological argument. But there
remains residuum OF intuitive
antipathy to Mr.. Seligmann's reasons.
Prejudice is after all the philosophical
basis of values. Race prejudice, dis
torted and hideous as it often is in
this country. nevertheless is perhaps
fundamentally sound. The book is
a clean appeal for justice and human
decency to negro citizens. 1t should
be widely read. Let us hope, though,
that Americans will not accept ita
thesis.
BAKER BROWNELL.
The Chicago whip. (Chicago, Ill.) 1919-19??, 1920-12-25

He was educated in the public schools
of Memphis, in the Sumner High
school in St. Louis, the Boston
Latin School and in Harvard Uniycr-
sity. Mr.. Gillespie gave up his studies
in Cambridge because OF natural
love and aptitude for music. lie was
\ private pupil OF the leader OF The
BOSTON Symphony Orchestra and
showed SO much ability and talent
that he was advised to study further
in the Chicago Conservatory ana that
was why he selected the Windy city.
While in the Conservatory he per,
fected his studies under the renowned
Jacobson and was the first colored
pupil of that celebrity. Unfortunately
while engaged in his favorlte pastime
against the advice OF his tutor MI.
Gillespie's index finger was broken by
a baseball and his brilliant career as
a musician came to tragic finale.
Young Frank being ambitious and
undaunted worked on different JOBS
and also established a record Tor
honesty, integrity and reliability,
while employed as private secretary
for Mr.. Joseph {. Yeager, promi-
nent broker, he learned the essentials
al modern business. 1t was during
this period that Mr.. Gillespie became,
interested in Insurance and decided
10 learn it. Insurance was then IN IT'S
embryonic state and Mr.. Gillespie
secured a position as agent with the
ROYAL Life Insurance Co, and grad
nally worked his way up to supt.
He was the first colored man IN
America to hold such a position. He
remained with the Royal Life until
it's dissolution in 1916. Mr.. Gillespie
then joined forces with the Public
Life Insurance Co. and was one on
its incorporators and Directors. He
held the positions of that capacity
until June 80, 1919 when he resigned
TO organize and promote the Liberty
Life Insurance Co.
The Liberty Life Co. is the browning
OF Frank L. Gillespie. With