The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-10-12
SPENCER SAYS
He IS UPHELD
Senator Sees His Charges
Proved i'm Latest Yer
sion of Speech.
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VIII Continue to Quote His
Original Authorities. He
Declares.
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ny SELDEN u. SPENCER.

! United states Senator From Missoufi.
/ To TIE NEW YORK HERALD:
ST. LOUIS, oct. 1.-THE report Of
Mr. Carlson. which the President now
publishes rs 10 what the President
! said on May 81. 1919. at the eighth
| plenary session Of the Peace Confer
ence, fully bears out what was said by
Herbert Adams Gibbons, and supported
by Frank III. Smonds, and what was
written by that great author DR. l.. !
Dillon in his book. The Inside story
OF the Peace Conference" and what
was supported by Paul D. Cravath. the
eminent lawyer of New York, who was
one Of the expert advisers for the
United states in Paris. ! quoted what
these gentlemen said and shall con
tinue so TO do.
There Is no difference ia substance
hctwecn the report now made public oy
the President and the official steno
graphic report from which quoted. The
only difference Is that this last report
surrounds the clear statement whicn
tie President made that an American
army and navy would be sent overseas
when the occasion arose by some gen
conceal the fact Of what the President
said.
Nothing can conceal the pledge whic!
. the President attempted TO make for
this country by which American sol
uiers are 10 be sent overseas wheneve.
thc world is again troubled
This pledge be- attempts 20 MAKE
most clearly IN Article Y. Of the League
os Nations. and what the President said
gg IFft.. ts.ss..
1919, is nothing moro than concrete
illustration Of the very principle which
he announces In Article y
in the statement which the President :
has 1ust issued he says: III any cove
nants OF this settlement are not observed
the United States will send her armies
and navies TO see that they are OBJ
served"
In the official stenographic record the
President Is quoted as saying III the
world is again troubled. II the conditions
we all regard as fundamental are upset
and contested. the guaranty which ls
given you means that the United States
Will send 20 this eide os the ocean their
army and their navy"
The French copy OF what the Presi-
dent said May 81. 1919. as reported By
the New York Tribune. translated. reads
substantially the same:
IF the world finds i.selG troubled
anew, II the conditions which we ali
regard 80 fundamental are again drawn
into question. the guaranty whicn IS
given 70 you will mean that the United
states will send o. this side OF the ocean
taeir army and their navy"
The statement which Dr e. 7 Dillon
makes in his book, referred 20 above. is.
We guarantee YOUR boundaries and
your territories. that means that we
w'll sent over arms ships ami men In
cesc Of necessity"
IN the article by FIanN Simoads th,
President Is quoted as saying.
'If tho world Should De troubled
again. If tho conditions we All regard as
Fundamental are challenccg the guar
antees which viii be given 20 you Will
pledge that the United states will send
its army and fleet across the ocean"
There 81 no substantial difference be-
tween any Of these. n is mere qulhblirg
20 attempt % pick out slight verbal d!f-
ferences. The grcut outstanding fact !s
that the President told tho Rumaninns
and Serbs 90 believe as clearly as Ian
guago can do u that an American army
and navy was available 20 them n case
thcre was any fresh trouble
For it VIII be noticed that ia tho last
statement which tho President now pro-
dncos We Is distinctly addressing the
Rumanien5 and serbs. for IN his state
ment ne seys
Il beg our friends from Rumania and
Serbia 20 remember D."
Why will not the President prolic.
tho official record?
n II is true that neither the president
nor the State Department nor any one
In authority has an exact copy Of tho
official stcnographlc reports Of the day
why not cable 10 Paris and secure tho
copy. which certainly tho United states
Is entitled 10 have.
Mr.. Gibbons in his article IN tho May
1920. number ot the Century MOod.inc
says:
Accord 20 the Rtenographic notes
~ the eighth plcnary session OF ths
Peace Conference. which I have IA my
possession. President Wilson said 10 Pre-
mier Bratiano." and 'heu gives his quo
tatiou.
The statement % the President 10 tho
serbs and Bumanians. which now seems
20 be unanswerably established. is as
Senator Reed clearly points out. quite
immaferial as compared with the def
mite obligation 70 the same effect. which
is In express language set out Ia Article
Y of the treaty. and which makes ths
obligation sought TO be imposed upon the
r-nited States 40 unfair and otrcvicis
10 toe peo2le gs thl4 cour.ry.