The New York herald. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1920-1924, 1920-12-09

Copyright. 1890. by THE New YoaI HEauD.
New York Herald Bur.an.
London. Dec. y.
The hopes of Irish peace have been
shattered again upon the rocks of the
irreconcilability of both sides. 1t is
stated semi officially here following the
Cabinet meeting to-day that the Gov
ernment's terms include no amnesty,
the surrender of all arms. and the
abandonment of the demand for Re-
public for ireland
The correspondent of The NEW
York HERALD is informed through d.
rect channels that Sim .Fein will not
accept the first two terms and that it
is confident it will be backed by the
entire Irish people in its refusal
Inclusion Of no amnesty and the
surrender of arms came after Lloyd
George had been talked to, not only by
Sir Hamar Greenwood. Chief Secre-
tary for Ireland but by Sir John An
derson. political head at Dublin Castle
and a military official whose name can
not be mentioned. Those men refused
under any circumstances to have any
thing to do with any plan which would
permit Michael Collins and other chiefs
Of what the Castle calls "the murder
gang" to escape the net that the Castle
believes is rapidly closing around them.
From Sense of Duty.
Sim Fein and the bulk OF Irish opin-
ion will not consent to the surrender of
Collins. ct al. to the mercies of the
British military tribunals because, even
" they believe the activist leaders are
responsible for such outrages as the
slaughter Of British officers in Dublin
they believe they did II as their duty in
their war against an alien enemy.
Father O'Flanagan's telegram was be-
fore the Cabinet to-day, and while no
formal reply is yet foreshadowed 1t Is
stated on good authority that when such
a reply Is made II will first demand
O'FIanagan's credentials and then lay
down the above conditions OF treating
with him further.
There Is no doubt that Lloyd George
himself Is willing to accept the condi-
tions outlined heretofore, providing FOR
the summoning OF the Dali Eirann. the
Sim fFein Parliament. and testing Its
powers to effectuate a truce, but he mas
been overrued by the element repre-
sented at Dublin Castle and the Carson
ite majority on the Coalition benches In
the House of Commons.
1t is further predicted by both sides
here tonight that the result Will be
recrudescence Of violence in Ireland OF
q scope and bitterness hitherto unprece-
dented. The Castle believes II has the
Sim Fein on the run. and the Slim Fein
believes all it's members must stand to-
gether now or never.
New Form of Reprisa1.
From Cork is reported the outbreak
Of new form of reprisal there-auxil-
!aries seizing whips from Jaunting cars
and driving the crowds before them In
order to make searches.
Commenting in this connection on the
publication OF the Government terms.
man who reflects representative opinion
here tonight told the correspondent OF
THE New YORK HERALD: III Lloyd
George asks Father O'Flanagan to sur
render the men Dublin Castle says are
guilty OF the killings. O'Flanagan might
as we'll reply with a demand that Lloyd
George surrender to Irish justice the
Black and Tan auxiliaries who. as
against the killing of fourteen British
officers In Dublin. assassinated sixty
three Irishmcn. young and old, some
crippled and invalidcd. before Dublin's
bloody Sunday"
This man then produced copy OF the
sheet. which enumerates fifty-three de
liberatc murders OF men and boys Sc
lectcd 10 be murdered and says
the list does not include eighty
two casual killings" by the military
and police this year. The list begins
with Thomas McCurtain, Lord Mayor
of Cork, who coroners jury found had
been killed by police" a verdict In
which all Ireland, at least believes. and
ends with Father Griffen Of Galway.
This man further states that Ireland
will not agree to surrender arms because
Ireland knows not only about the open
enlistment of Carsonites as special
armed police In Ulster but has informa-
tion that the Ulster Volunteers arc
equally well organized under cover.
ireland was willing, he said. on the
other hand. 70 renounce the demand 70:
absolute independence. but the British
press has failed consistently TO present
the Irish Views OF the situation ana
British opinion Ia fed exclusively from
Dublin Castle and is sure TO back up
Lloyd George. according TO this man.