Arizona republican., 1919-07-17
Thinks Benedict Arnol d Writer = Idealist O e Who Makes Others Pros porous - Tribune Attor- neys Shower Questions on Him to Show He Is Ignorant Idealist

MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. July Is. Henry Ford, under examination as witness for the defense during all of today's session of his suit for sl,OO0,ooo libel against the Chicago Tribune, was led through maze of questions by the newspapers attorney. who said he was trying to show that the alleged libelous editorial was correct in calling the mo- tor manufacturer 'an ignorant ideal ist"
 Answering the varied interrogations of Attorney Elliott G. Stevenson, MT. Ford described an idealist as one who helped to make people prosperous, an anarchist as lone who throws bombs or seeks to everturn the government. The witness did not recall the incident of Major Andre and Benedict Arnold, describing the revolutionary traitor as a writer.
 At one time, MT. Ford said that he would admit he was an ignorant idealist," if that would stop the line of questioning, but later said the question would have to be decided by the jury. Judge Tucker interposed objection to ! carrying the line of inquiry too far out side the case and Attorney Stevenson then asked about Mir Ford's knowledge of governmental relations, asserting | that the witness, as a candidate for senator, had set himself up as educator | of the people he had right to prove l that MT. Ford was ignorant.
 Ford Takes Responsibility l MT Ford reiterated that his circulars against war and preparedness were written by Theodore de Lavigne but that he was responsible for all the statements, although he did not recall all of them.
 Following are some of the state ments published by de Layigne and for
 which Mr. Ford assumed full respon-
 sibility::
 Tt twar) is the same old scarecrow talk by the same old lazy vultures who
 make human lives, seldom their own,
 the stake in their so-called battle of
 brains.
 T feel that this cry for the training
 of men to kill other men and for the
 placing of army and navy as burden
 on the backs of the people, is false
 conception of patriotism and treason tC
 the life of the people"
 The United States has spent more
 than a billion dollars on a navy ard
 army that Wou1 cope with an in vas;on that never occdrred and never VII occur, and yet the very WAT ex- pe1ts wno are responsible for th.t bur6ensome army and navy admit tha
 ouI army and navy never would have teer able to mee, with any hope a , success, those of ether so-cat'et
 powers
 Defines Statements
 Pressed by Mir Stevenson as to wha } he meant by such statements, AIr. tort repeatedly remarked that if it was il l tie book it was true The whole e. feet of his replies was that by pre- 5 pare0ness he meant preparedness. l greater than was needed for defens. } and he regarded the army and navy : of 1916 as quite adequate. By scare
 crows and vultures he meant those f who advocated an army and nav, greater than those of 1916.
 Throughout the session the air wa. 9 thick with the objections of the Fore 7 lawyers. Alfred Lucking and Alfred G Murphy. In arguing one of them Mir , Lacking said:
 T desire a further objection tha ! counsel has been told by the witness several times that he hired an exper | to write this book, that he gave hin r his general views. that he told hin . to be careful of his facts Question
 of this sort which might be considers expert questions should go only to tn $ man who wrote it, not 10 the man whc
 it is admitted. had the right to hir Il man to prepare the facts. He ha $ told counsel repeatedly that he did no
 prepare the language.
 |. Mir Stevenson in reply said: r The comments of the Chicago Fri a bune were not based on what MT. d q Lavigne did, nor anybody else bu II what MT. Ford gave to the public. The it knew nothing about MT. de Lavignt