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for the Administration. then said he
would not take the time of the Senate
TO press home an argument, but that he
had a telegram which he would like to
present substantially to the Senate In
which was contained the announcement
from Paris that the Chamber Of Depu-
tie had Just ratified the treaty with Ger
many by vote of about six to one.
Senator Spencer lMo.) announced that
he would oppose the amendment, hoping.
as did Senator Lenroot, for the success
Of necessary reservations, which would
render them unnecessary.
Senator Brandegee (Conn.) followed
with the statement that he meant to
support the amendment and held that
the suggestion that we should for forty
years participate IN the affairs OF CEN
tral Europe, of Asia and Africa should
be definitely repelled. He thought IL un-
wise to bind the United States for any
such period.
Senator Lodge supported the amend
ment. He said: II think after the his
tory Of the last fve years nobody can
doubt that when the world needs the
service of the United States for the pro-
lection OF civilization and freedom It viii
have 1t. But II is very different thing
to expect the United States to enter into
| every boundary dispute and take part
In stabilizing, as the Senator from MIS-
souri, suggested suppose after the
manner in which we have Just stabilized
the question OF Fiume.
To Protect Monroe Doctrine.
'In my Judgment this treaty will never
be ratified unless the Monroe Doctrine
is finally and absolutely reserved from
the Jurisdiction of the League. In other
words the United States does not pro-
pose II it can help 1t to permit Europe
to come in here to settle our boundaries
or any purely American question. II
we are going to take that attitude-and
we shall, In my opinfon. II this treaty
Is to be ratifed-if we are to take that
attitude they can retort that we desire
| to have the right to interfere In their
affairs while we do not propose that
they shall interfere in ours.
'T have as little desire to interfere In
| boundaries of the European countries, be-
yond maintaining decisions of the confer
ence as they are agreed to at this time.
as have to have them interfere in ours.
| 1 do not see why we should take up the
| burden of settling boundaries all over
Europe. Leave II to Europe to do"
Senator Hale (Me.). announcing his
determination to vote mo- on the Fall
| amendments said he intended to vote for
the committee reservations.
Senator McCumber IN. d. assailed
the opposition in a speech and Senator
Fall said:
1.-THE purpose of these amendments is
to see that the United States assumes
no obligations, legal or moral. to partici-
pate in the affairs of nations which do
| NIrv,, -w~ll
accomplish the same purpose. so good (:
but from my own point of view believe
| that the amendments are more specific,
| more definite and furthermore impossible
of misunderstanding"
The voting then followed, punctuated
| by the five minute speeches. Desertions
from the Administration ranks were
| noted on the second roll call, when 56
noes and 81 ayes were recorded with
| Senator Gore absent from the chamber.
This was a gain of two for the opposi-
ton, as Senator Thomas and Jones IN.
| NJ came over on this ballot.
| The Senate next will take up the
Moses amendment providing for the nom
participation of autonomous colonial
| Government representatives in the con-
| sideration Of questions in which mother
| countries are involved. The debate on
| the Moses amendment will hardly oc-
| cupy more than another day. or a. most
the remainder of the current week, after
which the great and bitter hght on the
Shantung amendment will be staged.
Following the votes to-day Senator
Lodge said:
Needless to say, am delighted with
the result. 1t was shown beyond any
possible doubt that We have the votes
necessary TO reject the treaty in the
event that reservations protecting every
| American interest are not adopted"
Senator Hitchcock on behalf of the
Administration group also expressed en-
tire satisfaction with the Senate's ac-
ton, saying that 1t was Indicative of the
fact that the Senate meant to ratify the
treaty and that textual changes could
not be effected.