New-York tribune., 1919-01-19
's.ObIenns of
Freed y atiOns
I'll ar d Here
tkrainians and Poles at
League luncheon Cannot
Agree on Calicia's Fate
German "Friends'' Silent
City College Professor As
seris That Teutons Sud-
denly Have Turned Swiss

Means by which the establishment Of
Poland and Ukraine as separate states
would De assured to the satisfaction
Of the populations of both states were
discussed yesterday afternoon at a
luncheon given by the League of Free
Nations Society at the Cafe Boule
ward.
While at certain points it appeared
that the adherents of both nationali-
ties who spoke had agreed to disagree,
the positions of the Ukrainians and the
Polish people. which apparently arc
greatly at variance already, were de-
tined.
Poland's position and its claims, as
presented by Dr. Lewinski Corwin, con-
sidered to be an authority on the Po
lish question, were that the reconstruc-
ton Of Poland on the basis of its ma
tionality in 1772 was absolutely essen
tial, and that the acquisition of the
seaport of Danzig was necessary.
Outrages Continue
4 repetition of outrages against Po-
land DR.. Corwin observed, is becom-
ing more noticeable each day. At a
recent meeting of clergy in Poland, he
raid the people were exhorted to per-
nit the church officers to hold public
offices and also to reestablish a state
religion. Then. he continued, there
were the reactionaries, who were try
ing to create trouble
DR.. Erdman, who was introduced as
having investigated, in conjunction
with Professor John Dewey, Of Colum-
bia University, the Polish question in
the United States spoke of having
discussed it with the leaders of the
Polish movement in this country, not
ABLY Ignace Jan Paderewski, and NJ De-
mufski, chairman of the Polish Com
mission Of Nine in Paris, and said that
they represented only the landowning
class of Poland
Reviewing recent political move
ments In Poland, Dr. Erdman said there
we're al least two clearly defined politi
cal groups in Poland the Padcrewski-
ncmufskl faction, which is conserva-
'ive. and the General Pilsadski group,
which is moderate and strikingly re-
sembles the kerensky regime. The lat
Ter faction, he stated, was in the as
cendency.
Called Imperialists
Dr. Z. Revyuk. secretary of the
xrainiar Federation of the United
States. after exclaiming that the
{ l.rainians had no use either for the
illsudski faction or the Paderewski
faction. said that both groups were
imperialistic.
lie attacked the idea OF a Poland re
constructed on the basis Of 17r2, say
ing 1t meant that Eastern Galicia
ians. would become rart of Poland. The
idealism of the Poles, he declared
could be demonstrated by their de-
mands that he % per cent Polish pop
ulation in Eastern Galicia wanted to
lule the - per cent Ukrainians.
pr. Revyak, taking up the charge
mat the Ukrainians were Bolsheviki,
aid the basis Of that charge was due
20 the fact that the Ukrainians wanted
meant the Poles owning estates in
fraine would lose them. The fact
was. he said, that tho Ukrainians were
ehtng the Bolsheviki.
Then there was another inning in
which it was said by NJ. Kolakewski
that the Poles wanted only to have a
federation Of willing states. and that if
tao krainians did not wish to ioin the
federation the matter would be dealt
With amicably. He also attacked the
Padorowski group as being impcriais-
&c and deprecated the fact that they
iad been recognized by the Allies.
Poles Refuse to Answer
Then Miroslav Sichinski asked the
Poles present whether they would CON
eent TO plcbiscite on the question of
Eastern Gal;cia. The Poles refused to
answer Sichinski, but declared to the
others present that they would
Professor Stephen P. Dugan. Of City
College, presided. and told of his diff
cpi1ies n obtaining some one to speak
in behalf of Germany; for, he said,
here was case for Germany but all
the Germans he asked. he said, had
gGdonlv turned Swiss.