The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-03-08
O'LEARY HOPED TO
SEE ENGLAND LOSE
Wanted Germany to Win If
British Were Humbled,
He Says.
TRIAL ENDS NEXT WEEK
Prisoner Kept Out Of Mayor
atty Campaign to Let
Tammany Win.
TRIAL ENDS NEXT WEEK


trial before Judge A. N. Hand In the
Federal District Court James W. Os-
borne Cd, Assistant United States At
torney, asked the witness whom he
wanted to have win the war before
the United States became q belligerent.
IT wanted to see England put In her
place." was the answer. Il had no
use for England while she held my
motherland down. feel that way
now. / can't help It, I was born that
way. AS between England and Ger
many I wanted to see Germany win;
l did not want to see France crushed
or Russia ruined but l did want to
see England put in her place"
O'Leary said that he thought at the
time that the United States ought not
to "contaminate' itself by associating
with the nation from which II had to
win its liberty with the blood OF the
forefathers.
Examined on Constitution.
Mr. Osborne conducted the witness
through a course OF examination on the
Constitution. OLeary was brought to
admit that the rights OF free speech
and free assemblage were not original
with the Constitution. but were pre-
coded by similar provisions of the Eng
|
II. He even conceded that certain
perogatives Of a democratic people are
more carefully guarded under the
English forms than in this country.
O;Leary was asked II he did not look
upon an article in Bull entitled rhe
Progress of the War" as defeatist propa-
ganda. He said he did not so regard II
ct could have written that article and
then gone right to recruiting onice
and enlisted" said O'Leary.
"You could, but you didn't retorted
the prosecutor.
o'Leary said he regarded the draft
law as an act OF tyranny and admitted
that he opposed the sending OF troops
abroad.
"If no troops had been sent that would
have helped Germany, wouldn't IT,
asked Mr.. Osborne
81 didn't look at It In that way"
Cross-questioninE Ends.
Didn't you hope that Germany would
win the war before our troops got mr.
mo"
Didn't you think you would be
pretty big man among your German
American friends?"
mo. did not think Of myself"
Tho cross examination, which lasted
/ Qdy ana a ndlI, eTutu WIN Oie vi
those temperamental bursts into nara
tive with which the defendant enlivened
week on the stand He was questioned
about his candidacy for Mayor In the
municipal campaign OF 1917. a subject Of
deep interest to him because 1t goes &c
one of his pet hatreds, the late Johr
Purroy Mitchell.
OIeary declared he never considered
his candidacy seriously but allowed II
to be boonbed because OF desire &c
hold back Irish and German element,
| from the Socialist candidacy of MORT:
IIlllqun This was the substance of hi,
answers After the prosecutor finished
OLeary turned in the witness chair e
talk directly to the jury and give wha
he called the inside story OF his part il
the municipal campaign.
81 was i'm close touch with the Hylar
! campaign in the early part of the race,
he said, My brother-in-law. Grove
Whalen. was one Of Hylan's campaign
managers as secretary of the Business
! Mems League. | was talked of as
candidate. The situation was up in tn,
air. My wife was importuning me t
draw out because OF my health.
My hope. and my only hope, was I,
keep elements among the Irish and tn
Germans. who had been urging me I,
the Socialist party.
THE Mitchell campaign managers an,
Mitchell himself were hammerng me un
mercifully. The elements ] was attempt
ing to restrain were becoming fidgetty
They wanted me to tell where l stood
The Hillquit campaign was going well
Finally l wrote a letter stating that
was not a candidate.
81 never had any serious intention o
becoming candidate for Mayor. II wa
Mitchers idea to get me into the rae
and split the Tammany vote. butt di,
not go into the race"
| OLeary explained the idea of his be
coming an Independent candidate grey
out of the soapbox meetings at Broad
way and Thirty-seventh street, wher
anti-British speakers were Interrupts
by members of the Figilantes. He sal
he refused positively plan for an anti
consumption platform and talked only O
standing for free speech, free assembling
and constitutional rights
Thomas r. Fielder, his counsel. aske
him II Hillquit had not made enti-con
, scription speeches.
'I don't want to say what was in Nj
Hillquit's speeches." answered the de
PENDANT.
"IIe has not been indicted by the Gov
eminent, has her"
NO
During the inquiry into the Mayoralt
campaign Mr.. Osborne, as was his Gus
tom throughout tho examination, inter
polated other matter. Once he asked II
WITNESS N'l+s.i ne was aware Of he I'VE
known fact" that Nine. Marie de vi,
torica. alleged German spy, was a dru
! addict.
81 cannot say as TO we'll known facts
} answered O'Leary. well known fac
; are far removed from me In tho Tombs
r You knew John T. Ryan, did yo
, not?" was another question that brouKl
sudden depression.
, Yes"
t Question of Flight.
Can you explain how II was IN:
shortly before Victorica's arrest RobiI
son disappeared and Immediately aft,
! you and John 7. Ryan disappeared?
ct do not think i am called on to 9,
I plain"
!. "You,- Of course, were not In aEre
v ment."
Certainly not"
Z OLeary said that he approved
President Lincoln's action in suspen
ing the right of habeas corpus durir
the civil war. He said that Linco
saw to II that no one was given a loI
, sentence for exercising the right OF fr
speech.
He put the editor of the World