The evening herald. [volume] (Albuquerque, New Mexico) 1914-1922, 1919-01-30
SWIFT AGREES TO
WAIVE IMMUNITY
DURING HEARING
Packer Formally Renounces All
Legal Claims Against Possible
Prosecution As Result Of His
Testimony Before Senators.

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Washington, jan iu.-Louis r.
r~Nt. president OF swift aud coin-
pany. formally waived before the sen.
stc agriculture committee today any
immunity from prosecution which
might be acquired through hia testi-
mony IN the committees hearings on
lceislation to regulate he meat In
dustry.
Examination u Mr.. swift was halt
ed 10 enable him TO consul counsel
shouf the effect q his testimony up
un his status IN leral proceedings In
which humanity might be sought.
AR swift At first refused TO waive
nny legal rights and on h hdNice OF
Francis J.. HeneN the committee re-
cessed 20 permit tho witness 10 de-
tormine with counsel the conditions
under which he wuul continue tcsti-
Tying.
senator Gore u Oklahoma object.
cd q Mr. swirl testifyinr In regard
20 tho abandonment - the Missouri.
Kansas and Texas railroad Fort Worth
stock yards.
Il don't want Nv. swift 10 have
Immunity Senator Gore said.
senator Morris Of Nebraska said the
witness had not been Huhpocnaed and
was not under oath, ~ consequent
ID could not have an Immunity
bath" Mr.. swift, however, said he
would neither waive nor claim Inn
munity or answer lreal questions
without the advice Of counsel
Was your idea In tcsufying here.
or in offering 10 testify In the fed
crtl trade commissions Investigation
TO gain Immunity asked SIR. Honey
"No. nir. replied Mr. swift H.
added that he would not discuss hts
legal rirhts. but desired ITO continue
his testimony just as " Tho question
had not arisen
"hut the courts mny give you im
munify unless yuu specifically aercg
not % accept a. said Mr Horey.
4 sharp clash between Mr. Honey
and Henry N.cders counsel Tor swift
and company. ovcr methods used by
the federal trade commission In ~
recent Investigation 81 the ri.at pack
ing Industry. Dol place today at the
senate agriculture committee hear
ina on a bin 10 regulate the indus
try
Mr. Hency asked Louis q. swift u
hls company had made application for
a public hearing during b u inquiry.
declaring he resented charges made
hy the I've big packers that the COM
missions investigation o. report
we're unfair.
Sir. swift said "a telegram sent 10
the isalon In February. 1871
asked that the packers Ice heard, q
statement which Mr. iiouey ylgor-
ousiy denied. Mr. Ncedcr attempted
70 speak
"ioun be called in time. MG Weed.
~" said Nj. ticncy "Mr swift b. on
the stand now and I underrtnud he IT,
head Of swift and company. swift
and company. although your salary aH
secretary az $4,000 " year iH larger
than his 81 $4,000
Nj. Necder insisted upon stating
That he had interviewed members %
the commission in an effort tu obtain
"You mean with your friend. .Ed-
ward ~. Hurlo, uucriod Mr. Honey
And Mr.. Davis AID others" was the
reply.
-NcstiFnuon Than any else said
Mr.. Hou.y. "and YOU desired by the
use Of the unlimited money ~ he
five bis packers 10 drtg out the pro-
ceodingH until our money had an hocn
spent"
Just d minute. Mr. Hcncy intor-
iected AR. Nsrdsr. 'yuu prevented a.
from crnss-eA1minlnr your witnrssrH,
Senator Norris uf Nebraska, inter-
ruptcd and stopped the exchange. Ito
then asked Air. swift what the late
George T.. Mccarthy, general manager
~ the Rational rroyisinncr, did Tor
tho packers ln return for tho $4,000
yearly they paid him.
lie helped uH out on an olenmnr-
mrlnp campaign. nnid Mr swift WIN
explained that the matter wta handled
by MIR Nocder and hs Mas NOT familiar
with the detHilf.
Mr. swift made his statement about
waiver after me committee had re-.
cossrd TO permit him 10 consult cnuu-
sci after the question uf immunity
had been raised. iio said be- had
never thought either 81 waiyiuE ur
claiming immunity. hut Ca satisfy tho
committee be sould formally waive H.
Aftorwhrd no Was permitted 90 toe.
tfy regarding fhe circumstance of uu
ARRANGEMENT which resulted lu tho
abandonment 81 the stock yards 81
tho n. o. a r. railroad 90 Fort
Worth. u matter which mumnorF 81
the committee said had been brought
10 the attention Of the department ut
Justice.