New-York tribune., 1919-11-14

ritorial integrity and political indc-
pendence, waived by the reservation
Tor all other countries. should apply to
Poland, Czecho-Siovakia and the Slo-
yenes state. This was beaten, "A to 80.
Senator Mcclellan proposed the same
exceptions in favor of Alsace and Lor-
raine. This was beaten. 46 to 81, SEN
ator Trammel for the first time voting
against the Administration group.
An amendment by Senator Thomas
would have permitted the guaranty Of
territorial integrity to extend for five
years, or during the crucial aftcr-war
period. This was beaten IS to 80.
After Mr.. Walsh proposed his amend
ment for the guaranty of the integrity
of the three new states for five years,
Senator Lenroot inquired if Ar. Walsh
knew what the boundaries of those
stutes were.
"They are provided for in the
treaty" said Mr.. Walsh, after a mo-
ment's hesitation.
Cant the Senator tell the Senate
what they arc?" persisted Mr.. Len
root. "He is asking US to guarantee
them for FIVE wears"
mo" said Mr.. Walsh. "but what
difference does that make ."
Outburst Against Oratory
An outburst against Sc much ora
tory came during tie discussion OF
this amendment from Senator Ashurst
of Arizona, a Democrat, who has been
voting consistently with the Admin
istration leaders.
81 have never heard more power
ful nor more convincing argument
than that of the Senator from Mon
tana,' said Mr.. Ashurst, "but | want
to ask him question. Is there
single Democratic Senator who now
believes that any argument that can
possibly be made in the forum of rea-
son Will alter the predetermination
that our antagonists have agreed upon
Therefore, why waste time? appea'
OH behalf of the American people for ac
tion and early action, to vote the treaty
up or vote 1t down and stop this talk,
which every man who will speak
knows will never chance vote Let
me say to my own party, if you have
failed to expose your own position to
the American people. God knows you
never can do L. SO you are wasting
time on the Republican peril, doing
nothing, making mudpie For Gods
sake let Us sll keep our mouths shut
and vote ard only vote
Charges Inconsistency
Mr. Hitchcock retorted that the op-
ponents of the treaty during September
used time as compared with its friends
in the proportion of So to 81. He said
he would read some OF the previous
utterances of opponents Of the treaty
to show their Inconsistency.
81 call attention Of the country
brcfe in Mr. Ashuyst. ITO the fact that
it is d Democratic Senator who is now
delaying a vote on the treaty
And l call attention. said Senator
Moses, "to the fact that it is Demo
II cNrOcl -
After lhe defeat OF one of the Hitch
cock substitutes ltakeN from his com
promise list submitted today by
vote of Al to 32, Senator Owen pro-
posed one which started off with the
words, 'ln assuming the obligat'on,~
with regard to preserving the terri
torial integrity. This was defeated, "A
to 33. the vote being mystery to
treaty opponents, since 1t seemed to
put ose in favor of it in the position
of gong further than they have con-
terdod A~tic X itself goes
Senator Hitchcock then proposed an
amendment to the reservation which
was lifted bodily from Senator Knc>'s
Original reservation intended 10 posi-
pone action on the league of nations
until after the peace treaty was dis
posed Of. Mr.. Gore sought to amend
This by declaring that the United States
would fight to preserve the freedom
of the seas"
The Gore amendment was voted down
without roll call. the only vote so
taken to-day. The amendment then
was votod dow',. 45 to "a.
The Walsh strategy for loading the
reservation TO Ar.icle X down with an
al DR. e0t VIII en- virtually would have
nulifed the treaty had entirely evapo-
rated when the vote was taken on it
early today. 1t was voted down. 6s
to !. Mr.. Walsh was supported by Mr.
Pittman on his own side. and by La
Toilette and Norris, of the "lrreconcila-
bues." His amendment would have re-
lieved the other league members of any
responsibility to the United States in
case this country was invaded. and
would have taken the representatives
of the United States off the league
council and assembly.
Roll Call on Reservation
The roll call on the committee rescr-
walton follows: