The Birmingham age-herald., 1919-02-11
POINTS OF ORDER
 THREATEN NAVAL EXPANSION PLAN Aid of Rules Committee Is Sought in Effort to Pre- vent Programme From
 Being Eliminated
Ru AskacIAsAd Prexa

Washington. February IO.-Ad-
 ministration leaders tomorrow will
 ask the aid of the House rules com
 mittee in an effort to prevent the
 naval expansion programme from
 being eliminated from the annual
 naval appropriation bill on points
 of order raised today by Republic
 m Leader Mann and sustained by
 Representative Garrett of Tennes-
 see, democrat, who was presiding.
 Representative Mann contended that the authoriza tDn of 10 super dread naughts and 10 scout cruisers was leg islation which could not properly be carried in an appropriation measure. When this point had been sustained Chairman Padgett of the naval commit tee sought to save the programme by offering an amendment appropriatiug $5,000.000 for new ship construction.
 This amendment was ruled out on a point of order by MT. Mann and MT. Padgett then proposed anA am mendment appropriating S2,QQ0.000 for the 10 bat tleships Opponents of the naval ex- pansion policy made no effort to press their advantage and after an hour s debate on the s200O,000 amendment
 
 order still pending.
 CALL FOR MEETING
 During the discussion Chairman Pou of the rules committee, conferred with Mir Padgett and immediately afterward sent out call for a meeting of the rules com mittee tomorrow. Uncertainty of the at titude of the members of the committee was said to have been responsible for the decision to hold the meeting tomorrow, instead of pressing an immediate ses- sion. Chairman Pou, however, was confi- dent that the committee would let tn. programme be presented to the House, and supporters of the naval expansion policy asserted that it would be adopted tomorrow.
 After MT. Padgett had offered his amendment Representative Miller of Minnesota, progressive, proposed a sub stitute amendment authorizing an appro- jriation of $210,000, 900 for the battleships, but vote on it was not reached.
 Speaking on the Padgett amendment Representative Heating of Colorado, dem- ocrat, urged the adoption of the naval expansion programme, saying that pos terity will view with surprise the heck ling of President Wilson and the efforts to embarrass him" MT. Heating said the President represented all the people ana llOl any party dllu tiidt tOiEIesS SilOoio support his work at the peace confer ence by approving the new building pro gramme which he recommended
 BIG NAVY NEEDED
 Representative Miller, in offering his amendment, declared for big navy, say ing that construction of 10 dreadnaughts would just put us where we can make up the big ship construction that has been lost in the last eight years.'
 Opposition to the programme was voiced by Representative Saunders of Virginia and Currie of Michigan. MT. Currie said that unless the President feared war with England his action in urging the pro- gramme was "a mean and contemptible bluff to gain power st the peace table" !" Mir. Saunders read the testimony of Sec rctary Daniels before the House commit tee in 1915. in which he quoted him as saying it was mot necessary to have a navy as big as England"
 MT. Padgett and other administration leaders planned to ask that the rules committee tomorrow report rule mak- ing all of the language for the new pro- gramme, as originally proposed by the committee, in order. If this plan is ap- proved, Mir. Padgett said he would with draw his amendment providing an appro- priation for the new construction.