The evening world., 1919-08-19

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FOR MORE iNFoRMAI ION.
Arter the president had delivered
.us statement senator Lyu,se lsasot
'Mt. President, 30 fur as am per-
sonuiIy conccrneu--and A think
represent perhaps the majority OF tne
committee In tnat respert--We have
no thought OF entering upon argu-
menta az 70 Interpretations or points
OF that character. But the CO.amlt-
tee was very desirous OF fSettlng In
formation on certain points which
seem not clear and on which they
thought Information would be Of
value,to have In consideratlon OF the
treaty which they desire to hasten
in every possible way.
"lf we have to restore peace 10
the world, Il Il necessary. I assume,
that there should be treaties with
Austria, Hungary, Turkey and Bull
Raria. Those treaties tsre all more
or less connected with the treaty With
Germany. What are the prospecte
OF receiving those treaties for ao-
The President: "I,thInk it Is very
good. Sir. and 30 far as l can judge
from the contents Of the dispatches
from my colleagues on the other side
OF the water. the chief delay is due
TO the uncertainty as to what Is going
TO happen to this Treaty. This
Treaty is q model OF the othars,
saw enough OF the others before I
left Paris 70 know that they are
being framed upon the same set OF
principles and that the Treaty with
Germany IA the model. I think that
ls the chief element OF delay Sir"
OTHER TREATIES FOLLOW LIN ES
or ONE WITH GERMANY.
Senator Lodge. They are not re-
garded as essential 10 the considera-
ton OF this .treatyT'
The President: "rhey are not re-
garded as such. no, sir. they follow
this treaty"
Senator Lodge: Il do not know
about the, other treaties, but the
treaty with Poland. for example. has
been completedY'
The President: "Yes, and signed:
but II is dependent upon this q eaty.
My thought was to submit IL upon
the action on this treaty"
Senator, Lodge then asked whether
the President could show the commit
tee the tentative League Of Nations
drafts submitted by Great Britain
France and Italy.
NINNlN " NNg G8NNAMNNNNNN NNAN w.
uro, Senator, " I had found that
had them. took u for oraated that
! had them. But the papers that
remain IN my hands remain thero
in q haphaxard way. The British
draft was the only one, a. ] re-
monber, that was in the form OF
4 definite constitution Of . league.
The French and italian drafts
were in the form Of q series Of
propositions laying down general
rules and assuming that the COM
mission or whatsvsr body made
the final formulations would build
upon those prineiplos " they
were adopted. They were prin-
oiplos quite consistent with the
final action.
"a remember saying to the COM
mittee when / was here in March,
have forgotten the expression / used,
but II was something to the' effect
that the British draft had constituted
the basis. l thought afterward that
that was misleading and l am very
glad to tell thes committee just what
I meant. .trt tl..'
WILSON'S FIRST DRAFT BASED
ON PHILLIMoRE PLAN.
some months before the conference
assembled n plan for the League OF
Nations had been drawn up by a
British committee, at the head
OF which was Mr.. Phillimore,
authority on International law.
A copy OF that document was sent
to me and built upon that a re-
draft. l will not now say whether /
thought II was better or an improve
ment, but / built on Mat a draft
which was quite different, inasmuch
as II put definiteness where there had
been what seemed tndefinitenesB IN
the Phllllmore sugBestion. Then. be-
tween that time and the time OF the
formation OF the commission on the
League or Nations / had the advan-
tAge Of seoing a paper by Cen SHUTS
OF South Africa, who seemed to me
to have done some very clear think
ing. particularly with regard 10 what
was TO be done with the pieces OF the
dismembered empire. After I got 10
Paris, therefore, I rewrote the docu-
ment 20 which l have alluded, aud
you may have noticed that IL con-
sisted OF a series Of articles and then
supplementary agreements. II was
In the supplementary agreements
that I embodied the additional ideas
that had come 70 me not only from
Gen. Smuts's paper but from other
discussions. That Is the full story
Of how the plan which ! sent to the
committee was built up"
Senator Lodge: '"rhen, OF course
Il In obvious that the Gen. Smuti
! plan had been used. That appears
on the face of the documents"
The President; Yes"
WILSON SAYS REDRAFT WAS
PRIVATELY HIS OWN,