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arisen" Did he tell you that7
A. No. don't think he said anything
of the kind. We went through the shop,
talked about the shop.
q. But you were in the office for an
hour before that, were you not7
A No, sir.
Forgotten His Looks.
Q. You don't remember
A. No, sir. had to come here to md
out what he looked like.
Q. You have told us about that, and
that he looked like slave.
A Like slave to the interests. yes
Q. You have told us that "the feeling
between ourselves and Great Britain and
France was not good. the feeling be-
tween ourselves and Germany. very
properly, was very bitter, and that we
we're an isolated nation, without any al
lies, depending upon ourselves for our
defence II we should get into trouble"
Did he tell you that?
A. I don't remember.
Q. II pointed out that II was not GER
tain how the wal was going to end, that
tho only protection which we were given
at the time from Germany was the Brit
ish fleet" Did he tell you that?
A. / don't remember anything Of his
speech at all.
Q. That IL the British feet should be
defeated and the seas were left open 10
the German navy We would suffer by at.
tack Of the Germans, because the Ger
mans had the second naval power" Did
he say that7
A. don't remember. He had the
speech. I guess. ready for that night.
Q. Did he say that? .
I,,l<
Q. want to get along pleasantly with
you II can. -
A. Yes, fine. ,>'.'
Protests Dodsing Questions.
Q. But cannot do II and will not try
to do 1t IL you are going to keep on
lodging these questions
That our navy was. inferior In size
and In personnel and In material to the
German navy. That we had no army
that could be called an army, and that
the Germans had a great army in being
and that they had a great merchant
marine" Did he tell YOU that? -.
A. No. don't think so. 3A'-' RI
Q. THAT the general staff of our army
had already stated that In the event OF
war Germany could deliver $4,000 mer
on our shores in forty-six days" Did
he tell you that? : 80.
A. No. ..r
Q. Il pointed out to Mr.. Ford that our
navy was not sufficiently large to prevent
that landing. and II that landing should
occur we had no army Of sufficient size
and no material.with which to prevent q
complete invasion OF the eastern part OF
our country" Did he tell you that?
A. don't recall him talking any
thing about preparedness with me.
Q. You said. did you not. a few min
utes ago that you became satisfied that
Mr. Wood came there to mako a speech
TO you on this subject?
A. The next day they say he did, yes,
after he had made the speech.
Q. You say now that he did not make
any speech TO you?
A. We talked about some things.
Q. What some things did he talk
about?
a. don't remember.
Q. Tell us one thing. Tell us one
thing that he made a speech about?
Made speech About Flag.
A. He made a speech about the flag.
He said that said that We we're going
TO take down the American flag.
Q. That was true, wasn't III
A. No, sir; ! told him I was going
q. just q moment. That answers It
Mr. Lucking-Let him finish.
A. told him l thought we would be
able to put up a flag of all nations. He
said that. II don't see how you can be
against preparedness and have the Amer
lean flag flying over your buildings"
.. thought you said he did not talk
anything about preparedness?
A. That is the one thing he talked
Neutrality-suspicious. .-
q. You didn't think he mentioned pre-
paredness?
A He said he knew that was against
preparedness, and when we got out into
the engine room, away from anybody
else on the platform. he said, II don't
see how you can be against preparedness
and have this flag flying over your build
ings." l says, We'll. ] hope perhaps
when this war Is over we Will put up a
flag OF all nations" said nothing
about taking down our flag or nothing
disrespectful about our flag. or course,
man can go out and
Q. You knew he was going to make a
speech?
A l did not.
c. Didn't you get copy of the speech
the next day7
\. Yes. think so. yes.
c. Was this In It? WIN you read this.
popNi W WlIHtSb).
a. | cannot. II somebody can read II
TO me. have no spectacles. Won't you
please read IT?
O. Detroit, Michigan, Tuesday. May
8. 1915" will read it II you desire.
Henry A. Wise Wood says paclnsm is
dangerous to nation"
Judge Murphy--That is objected to as
incompetent.
The Court-Is that in evidence?
Mr. L..
in evidence, and ! am going to show
that he knew what was in II, IL your
Honor please. I cannot do II ali at
one time, II your Honor will read this
think you will see that II Is the letter
that was identified (handinE to court)
.. Did you refer to this statement .
when saw the flags flying on top OF
his factory and told him what harm
/ thought he was doing to this country
Ford told me that when the present wa r
was over these flags would come down.
never TO go up again" That Is what
you refer to"
to. That Is what Mr.. Delavigne told me
tina he said
Q. That Is what Mr.. Delavigne told
you that he said?
A Yes, sir but Mr.. DelaviEne vro,a
that letter without my seeing Il, Mr..
Stevenson.
No Contradiction Ordered,
Q. Now Just a minute. Did you tell
Mr.. Delavgne to contradict Il?
A. No, ] didn't say anything to him
about IT, He wrote the letter without
my seeing anything OF it.
Q. But when you read that state
ment in the paper what Mr., Wood said