El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-03-07
Robins Thinks
Russians WaHt
BOLSHeUik Rule
Can Get Rid Of Trotzky
andLenine Any Time
Raps Intervention.

washington. u. C., March Inter
vention in Russia was condemned by
Raymond Robins. former head Of the
American Red Cross mission in that
country, teslifyins today before the
senate committee investigating prop
uganda, as unfair TO the Russians and
unwise from the standpoint Of the
United States and the allies.
Mr. Robins said American soldiers
aud munitions should not be used 20
crush a revolution. which, he de-
cia-ed. reurezentaG the wishes OF the
Russian people.
SoIidifies Factions.
IL was his opinion that Intervention
would soAdlIE RUSSIAN factions ln
support OF the BO4sleviE government.
strengthen tie Bolsueyik tendencies
IA England and France and materially
assist i'm laying a sruunlWOrE Tor the
spread OF radical doctrines ID this
country. Ilg recuE milton OF the Boil
shevik government was advised
against. lut the witness repeated tlar
lf The Russians wanted BUlslat ism,
they should have IL, and be gave y
as his opinion that the Russians DID
want IT, At the same time. DE re-
iterat1l his belief that Bolsnetisln
constituted the greatest menace mat
ever had threatened the Democratic
Governments OF the world. Air. Rob-
ms denied statements by previous
witnesses that Russian peasants l24
no arms and were unable 20 over
throw Leuine and TroZky. As a mat
ter Of fact, he said there were H.
100000 rifles available in Russia and
many OF the communities and towns
possessed machine guns.
Intervention Last Resort.
LagTnmHrrE In questions N| NHI1-
tor Nelson. the witness said he a-r-et
that iuterF en-lou should be rezorted
TO il il was true that thousands were
being slaughtered in BolsheNlk
reign OF terror, but be entered a plea
against such action being taken Sim
ply because there was prejudice and
lack OF understanding OF what he
claimed 20 0e the actual conditions in
Russia
Tie witness thought the Russian
people could Ee- rid Of Lenlne and
rr0tZky az any lime they desired
Denies Tales Of Treachery.
Eir Robins emphaticaIy denied
that the Bolshevists had treacher-
oUsly attacked the CZecho-SlOvak
forces after the latter had been dis
armed. he said the conflict grew
out Of "des Eus, which have not been
laid upon the table" and in this con-
uectiou declared that he knew that
France had tried 10 keep the Czecho-
SloTa ks in Russia after Offering 20
assist In getting them out. as a means
Of overthrowing the revolution "at
any cost
TIE witness Thursday said the
United States should send an economic I
mission 20 Russia 20 aid the people
n obtaining necessities Of life.
BreEhkovknyn Not Expelled.
Mr.. Robins denied Nine. BreshkoV-
z1ya was driven out OF Russia by the
-enine-TrotZzy government he said
utionEry leader was and was not dis 4
she became active in counter revolu- /
.louary propaganda Mr.. Robins said .
he asked Lenine regarding his dispo-
sition toward the aged revolutionary h
eader
i havn't any. She's IN the picture .
gallery" Lenine was said 10 have re-
Piled.
Denies Papers Suppressed
The witness also denied that news
lapers opposing the BOlshevik party
lad been suppressed while he was in
Russia al least
When Maj. Humes asked whether
IFS interpreter. Alexander Gumberg. a
russian Jew. who had resided In the
Iuited States. was connected with the
Col Robins denounced
lying charges that his Interpreter
vas a German agent" and produced
COPY OF a contract between Edgar
isson. formerly OF the committee on
ublic Information, and Gum berg,
alling for a payment OF $4,000 TO the
after 10 aid American propaganda
york.