The sun., 1919-10-19
VOICE IN LEAGUE
FOR THE IRISH
NOW PROPOSED
Seven Votes for Britain to
Be Asked if Johnson
Plea Fails.
THIS INSURES A HEARING
Senator Walsh Insists That
Article XII. Also Opens a
Way to Erin.
special Despatch 20 Tar suN.

bpecfdf Despdfch 10 THE Sun.
WASHINGTON, Oct 18. - Irelands
claim to the right Of self-determin-
alton may find an Irish spokesman
authorized to present its case before
the League of Nations.
1t developed to-day that If the John
son amendment giving the United
States equal representation in the as
sembly of the League of Nations with
the British Empire shall fail various
other proposals will be made looking
to substantially the same end. At the
| adopted to correct the arrangement
which gives the empire six votes to
one for the United States, there will
| be introduced an amendment to re-
quire that Great Britain shall have
seven instead of six representatives
and that Ireland shall have the sew.
enth.
The idea brought forward to-day pre-
cipitated a hew situation in the fight
over the johnson amendment. 1t found
immediate support in various quarters
and will be pushed in case the British
American discrepancy cannot be cor
rected.
Ireland's case was debated before the
Senate at length to-day on the basis
of the resolution introduced yesterday
by Senator Walsh (Mont). This de-
clared that. after the league Is organ
lied, the American representatives shall
direct attention Immediately to Ireland q
right OF self-determination, employing
the processes which the covenant pro-
| yides for such cases, and endeavor to
have Irelands case recognized and
favorably acted upon.
Points Way in Article XI.
To this programme the objection is
+, made that 1t will be futile, because
Great Britain promptly will insist that
Ireland Is domestic question" and
not within the leagues purview. Sena-
tor Walsh insisted that 1t nevertheless
I could be brought before the league. and
the discussion developed decided interest
| Under Article XI. nothing further Is
contemplated than that the cause of Ire
land, her right to self-government, to a
government of the choice of her own
people, may be presented to the League
| of Nations, either to the council or to
the assembly and in that way to the
| whole world" said Senator Walsh.
IT see no inconsistency whatever be-
tween Article X. in its provision for q
guarantee OF political independence as
! against external aggression in Article
XI. II there Is an internal uprising In
which any nation outside Is interested
the latter are forbidden under Article X.
to resort to war"
IF an appeal Is made to the council
or the league under Article xI.," asked
Senator Lenroot, ito procure the free
dom of Ireland, would that not involve
a threat of external aggression
mot in any sense whatever" replied
Mr.. Walsh External aggression has a
clear meaning in Article X 1t means
the making OF war by one country or ma
ton upon another nation"
Would Not Work Here.
+If under Article XI. jurisdiction can
be taken of the Irish question" sug-
gested Mr. Lenroot, 'cannot like juris-
diction be taken of the immigration ques-
ton in this country, the tarin question
OF almost any other domestic question:
'If any such question is raised" re-
piled Mr.. Walsh, 1T would be domes-
tic question and the nations would take
| no action
''Then does the Senator take the posi-.
ton that Il Great Britain should raise
the point that the Irish question Is g
domestic one it could not take jurisdic.
ton under Article XI. p asked Mr.. Len
root
"If the league hnds that question 1:
, domestic 1t does not act in the matter a,
, ALL" replied Senator Walsh. '"Tht
League OF Nations simply affords g
/ forum before which a cause can be pre-
, sented. II is we'll that this provision
was made in the treaty. because II thu
cause of Ireland should be presented
, there and the council or assembly haC
, authority to act il might take actor
against Irish independence. They NIGH
feel obliged to suppress the efforts Of
, people in some instances to establish
their independence. 1t might work tha
way"
the question of immlgration?" insiste,
, MIR. Lenroot.
"In my view the Irish question is no
n purely domestic question: said tn
I Senator from Montana. Gen. Smut
aid not SO regard It He gives 1t al
I International as we'll as a domestic as
D nact When Cuba endeavored to estab
iish her independence our Governmen
: declined TO recognize that II was purel!
domestic question, Withlh the Juris
diction of Spain, .since 1t affected 8
directly the lives of our own people
I We regarded 1t as an internationa
problem"
I Case of Japan Is Cited.
$50 the same reasoning would max
tha question of Japanese immigration
:, an international question and not solel
domestic question:" argued Senate
Ienroot, Gould the council take juris
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