Arizona republican., 1919-11-30
Mr. Mccumber's Interview

Senator McCumber of North Dakota, in an in tervew printed by The Republican yesterday morn ing; speaking of the reservation of Article 10 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, said that the heart and soul of the article still left there That is in contrast to the repeated declaration Of the president the reservation cuts the heart out of both the article and the covenant.
 We think, without making study of the effect of the reservation taking into account only the rec of these contradictory witnesses, We should incline to the view of Senator McCumber. We see in the president one nsstent upon the ratification of the treaty without the slightest change that he resented even the slightest deiberation which the senate proposed to give it. He and his friends felt that the senate in withholding the i'm mediate approval which the constitution makes nec essary and which must be preceded by some measure of debereton, offering affront to the chief executive.
 In the view of the president and his followers the senate must accept bndy such conclusions the president had arrived at at Paris unaided by ad visers such conclusions were forced upon him by his associates at the peace table. So set he president in this opinion that he regarded as insult to the world any suggestion for guaranteeing the rights of Americans The testimony of a witness SO biased might, to a very large extent be disre- garded.
 Mir. McCumber on the contrary friendly to the treaty from the outset the chief advocate the republican side of the senate of League of Ma tions. He opposed every attempt at the amendment of the treaty and every radical reservation. He orally voted with the administration following became evident that the treaty could not be ratified without moderate reservations and then he about tffectng a compromise. Of his desire for the ratl- fcation of the treaty and for the establishment of League Of Nations, such terms the treaty pro- vded with as slight modification possible. there ,annot be the slightest doubt. We believe that in
 he long, stubborn contest the administration re- ceived effective support nearly et- iective support from Mir McCumber than the entire following of the administration the democratic side able to give it.
 The point made conspicuous by Senator McCumber in the interview is that in Article 10 is still left pledge by the league members to respect the territorial integrity and political independence of one another and of nations not members and he adds that if a nation cannot be trusted fulfill that pledge you could not that nation in the of furnishing an army to enforce it's agreement"
 In the course of the discussion throughout the summer and fall, this the view of The Repub- lican If the heart and soul of a member nation not in the league international obligation could bind it. That could be accomplished. if all only by solemn Articles of Confederation Of the nations and certainly, neither the president nor the senate both, could commit the nation to such obliga- ton except by the express the people who had not been heard and had been given no opportu- Y nifty to be heard in this matter.
 Nothing in the future could be certain that the American people, rightly or wrongly, would op- pose order, from body, composed mostly of eigners sitting Geneva for the United States to . itea1f into tbe otho world. Such an order could be given and made ef- \ fective only by body superior to the congress of If the United States body which, when brought face f o face with it. the American people would certainly '. decline to recognize
 Y On the other hand, if we are bound by honor League of Nations, congress will not likely hesi- tate. after due deberation, to undertake the dis charge of obligation it may find resting upon us the people with confidence congress and rec ognzing it's wisdom and constitutional authority. N will yield their assent to any action of congress i looking to the execution of obligations If the war has not chastened the world and V so changed 1t to leave the nations which may enter the league without thought of reaching; of securing advantage at the expense of another t nation; if it has not inspired each nation with Of its moral obligation to assist in preserving 4 the peace the has not left the time ripe for a { League of Nations
 But this we understand, we have been told has : been the effect of the and we believe that has been the effect upon the stronger nations, those which are able to enforce peace. It may be so, l hut the experiment is worth trial and the United States is ready pledge it's honor honest trial. That is what Article 10 with it's reservation guar antees.