Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1919-03-27

Office
A. Downstairs.
o.--Do you know oscar Rock, opo of
the state agents.
Ayes sir.
Q.-Do you remember when he was
appointed state agent.
Ale was state agent when | be-
canre governor,
Q.-1s he one OF the state agents
under your direction?
Al appointed him.
Q.--Do you know j, W, kindig.
Ayes: I know hiw. have known
him for fifteen years,
o.-when were you admitted to the
bar?
T AIN 1905.
Q.-Are you acquainted with George
| Clark
A.-F'airly well.
Q.-How long ago did you meet him"
About seven years ago In Sioux
city.
Q,-When did you first see George
| Clark In regard to the Rathbun par
| dom
A.-Some time during the last. two
weeks in September.
Q.-How long were you with him?
A.-About fifteen or twenty minutes.
| Q.-What was the conversation?
Ale went into details about the
case, and after we had discussed tbs
case for few minutes told him We
would not consider a matter Of that
kind unless we had recommendation
| from the presiding Judge and county
| attorney.
Q.-Were you acquainted With the
laws in regard to the parole board?
Ayes, I think so.
Q.-Now, when Mr.. Clark talked
| with You about the pardon. did he
| talk about the crime"
Al understood it was crime OF
| rape.
Citizen you understood he wanted
| a pardon before the boy was to be
committed?
wanted before commitment took
place.
Q.-Now. governor. you knew the
| laws in regard to pardons?
Al thought / knew.
9.-You knew the governor could
grant conditional pardons and did
grant conditional pardons?
A.-Yes, l knew, and had CRANES
conditional pardons.
OF you had granted a conditional
| pardon. as is usually done in such
| cases. you know YOU would have held
control of the pardon?
A.-No question about that.
Q.-Do you know. governor, of any
| cases in which the verdicts Of courts
stand that any pardon except a condi-
tlonal pardon was granted?
Al have not consulted the records
Governors Secretary Testifies.
Charles Witt, secretary to Governor
| Harding, was witness.
Questions by Byers, answers by
Witt.
Q.-Who is in charge of the official
| accounts Of this office?
A.-Mrs. Katherine Davis.
Q.-How does Mrs. Davis get the
letters and kilograms of the office?
A.-From me.
Q.-Then all kilograms and letters
sent and received by you or the gov
ernor go to Mrs. Davis?
Ayes sir.
| Q.-Who keeps records Of telephone
calls?
I Airs. Davis.
Q-Were you in Des Moines as tht
governors secretary during November:
! Al was in Washington and New
York part Of the time
| Q.-When did you leave here?
Al left a week before Thanksgiv-
| ing.
Q.-When did you return?
| Al was in Chicago the Friday fol-
| lowing Thanksgiving day.
Odd you call the governors Of
flee from Chicago?
Al called Mrs. Blaise.
| Q.-Did you meet anyone from Ida
Grove or Des Moines?
A-Not that I recollect.
Q.-When did you reach Des Moines?
A.-MOnday or Tuesday
Didn't you send telegram from
! Chicago to the governor asking the
governor to send certain papers to
Chicago?
A.-Not that recall.
gagements?a -
Al do.
! Byers then sent the page boy after
\ the engagement BOOK.
Q.-Do you remember something
about the Rathbun pardon?
Ayes sir.
Q.-When lid you first hear Of it?
A.@-When George Clark came into
the office.
|, Q.-Not living soul told you about
| it before?
A.-No sir.
Q.>-fDid you know George Clark?
| A.-No l didn't.
Q.-You knew who he was didn't
you?
A.-Well, I knew he vas county re-
publican chairman of Ida county.
| Q.-You knew Smell at Ida Grove?
A.-Yes 'sir.
Q.-Who looked after the governor
| funds in the campaign?
A.-The governor contributed to the
| general fund.
Q.-Do you know Of any private con-
| tributions to the governors campaign?
/, Al don't know. don't think there
| were any.
Q.-Was tha:e anyone else at Ida
Grove who you depended upon besides
ESnell to look after the governors polit-
! ical interests there?
Al depended on Smell
| O.-The day Clark appeared he
| brought YOU an abstract with the par
/ dor applications. Did you examine the
| papers?
| Aust casually.
| Q.-What did you do with them?
! AL put them in a drawer.
| O-whv didn't, Sou give the pardon