New-York tribune., 1919-10-03
DEMOCRA


Grand total against. 6s.
Pairs:
Johnson, California, for, with Mar
tin. Virginia., against.
Page, Vermont. for, with Johnson,
South Dakota, against.
Reed, Missouri, for, with King, Utah,
against.
Sutherland, West Virginia, for, with
Smith, South Carolina, against.
Lodges Argument
In presenting the argument in behalf
of all the Fall amendments Repubi-
can Leader Lodge said:
II think after the history Of the last
five years nobody can doubt that when
the world needs the service of the
civilization and freedom it will have it
"But it is very different thing to
expect the United States to enter into
every boundary dispute and take part
in stahilizing, as the Senator from
Missouri (Spencer) suggested sup
pose after the manner in which VIC
have just stabilized the question OF
Fiume.
an my Judgment this treaty never
will be ratified unless the Monroe Doc
trine is finally and absolutely reserved
In other words, the United States does
not propose, if it can help it, to permit
Europe to come in here to settle our
boundaries or any purely American
/ question: If we are going to take that
atttudc-and we shall, in my opinion
if this treaty is to be ratified he,
can retort that we desire to have tn
right to interfere in their affairs while
we do not propose that they shall in
terfere in ours.
81 have as little desire to interfere
in boundaries of the European coun-
tries, beyond maintaining decisions OF
the conference as they are agreed tt
at this time, as I have to have then
we should take up the burden Of set
thing boundaries all over Europe
Leave that to Europe. If we had gone
to them and said: All we ask is tina
you shall make treaty with German!
which will prevent her from ever be
ing menace to the world again; ar
range your own boundaries and you
partitions among yourselves and We
will back you up, but we will no
meddle if you will comply with oul
wish that Germany shall be rendered
harmless, we should be as strong, a
popular and as we'll regarded in Eu
| rope to-day as we were Wnen tue Wa
closed, instead of being disliked ant
distrusted."
No Significance, Says Capper
The following statement, regarded
very significant, was drawn by Senate
} Capper, who voted against all tn
amendments to-day, before the vot
was taken:
? "The defeat of the Fall amend dment
} has no significance SO far as the leagu
controversy is concerned. They wer
amendments to the treaty and not t
the league covenant. | shall not vot
to ratify the treaty until strong leagu
:, reservations, fully protecting Amer
! can interests, have been adopted.
S voted against the Fall amendment
a because, in my judgment, they do nc
strengthen the document, and If tn
: treaty is ratified with league reservs
= tions, as believe it will be. thes
o amendments are unnecessary and migt
: cause serious Embarrassment. | thin
r the four league reservations propose
l by Senator Lodge and approved by
: majority Of the Foreign Relations Con
= mittee fully protect the United State
G and | shall support them. ! think Coz
grcss, and not q league, should 81
n when the United States should ser
/, it's army or navy to Europe, and. ther'
8 fore, the reservation on Article
s necessary. | shall also support II
e proposal to give the United State
equal voting power with Great Bri