New-York tribune., 1919-11-07
Treaty as 1t
Stands Fails
OF Test Vote
Continued from, rnse

this word gone out over the world
that the treaty had been defeated, |
do not think it would have been pos
siblc for the Senate TO 20 on with the
consideration of the treaty We would
take up the railroad legislation and
Let the treaty stay dead Now we have
spent all this time working out q pro-
gram Of reservations. and | nm anxious
to see those reservations put on the
treaty before the final vote is held"
As result Of the Vice Presidents
ruling, the Senate will now take up one
NJ a time the various reservations ap-
proved by the Foreign Relations Com
mittce. 1t was learned to-day that thc
change in the preamble. rs result
OF which the assent Of three Of the
four principal powers may he obtained
ny AT exchange Of diplomatic notes.
ana which change resulted in forty
olght OF the fortyninc Republican Sen
ators agreeing 90 support the preamb bic
was suggested hv President Lowell. Of
Harvard. DR.. Lowell suggested this
chanGe N conferences with Senator
Kellogg, Of Minnesota, and others.
Discussed in Cancus
Administration Senators In their
caucus Tonight discussed the changes
IN their program which were made
necessary by the -Presideni's de
c.sion. Senator Hitchcock vas anxious
to learn just how many Democrats
would follow him on his plan to keen
the treaty suspended without either dT
feat or ratification until he could force
a k,I,
mild reservatiOna.
Senators Underwood and Swanson.
who made the chief parliamentary
fight to-day. which was finally detected
by the Vice President's ruling, are
with Mr.. Hitchcock In his plan. Mr..
Underwood said on the floor to-day
that he would vote against ratification
II the Lodge program of reservations
WAS put in The treaty.
After the caucus Administration
Leader Hitchcock made thu following
statement:
The mi nority conference considered
the question os procedure upon the
treaty. One question discussed was
now the proceedings COULD be hastencd
IN TINS connection, suggestion OF
putting into operation the cloture rule
o. the Senate was considered.
"lhe conference also discussed
methods of testing the sentiment OF
the Senate on various fo,rs OF ratiti-
eatlon. 50 shat every plan that may
oring about ratification in some salts.
factory form may be tested"
There seems to be little room, for
doubt thnt IN" presen, TEN her Of the
Senate would result IN the rejection Of
,Ae treaty by thirtyfve Senator'S vot-
ing against 1t # there is nny softening
Whatever IN what Is regarded as the
HNn'mum committee program. There
are many Senators who believe that i,
|'ii he rejected anyhow.
Alter Mr.. Id Toilette cornpleted his
speech to-day the Gore Amendment
proVldlns 10. referendum or the
question o. going TO way to carry out
the recommendation of the council OF
iAe league OF nations. YVES defeated, 81
70 ih Senators Lodge, Brandeocc,
ran and other treaty opponents voted
against the amendment.
Bcrah Files Objections
Senator Lodge then moved that .he
senate consider the Foreign Relation
.ommlftec'e reservations. Senator
bo1ah interrupted tc say that he m
t.hoed 20 o'ier amendments 20 Aftclcs
= and Al Oh the treaty Senator I'm
dcrwood. Democrat, OF Alabama. re-
torted that the reservations could not
De considered until al OF the treaty
amendments had been disposed of
senator Borah then announced that he
"oulG oftE reservations instead Of
amendments.
- Senator Underwood and SWANSON.
Democrat, of Virginia. commended thaf
the Senate could not consider resor,a-
ti"ns IL comlnitee OF the whole. and
mat the reservations could no. be cor
sldefed st all until The cntirc r.solu-
non or ratification was presented 70
the Senate.
Reservations. ,hey insisted. we're
amendments TO the rstifyine resolu-
ton, aud therefore they could not be
considered before thai Instrument Itself
senator Lodge insisted that the reso-
lnuon u ratification, under tn rules
Of the Senate, is simply the cnactirp
instrument drawn after the senate has
I"fed for change il the treaty.
AInendm.nts to .ho resolution and sub
s'ltute reservations. he said. could be
offered IL the Senate at any time be-
tcre Tho iinsl vote on the resolution.
Ihc only procedure open 20 tn,
Democrats after the Yots on thc rati
fy'ng resolution. IN case the resolution
10 defea ted. he said, is to move FOR &
reconsideration % the vote. and e thc
N~OAi- ANS LlpH ~ oIutlS SC men The
aan,e resolution that was oreviousl,,
defeated would be before the Sensrc
again for adoption or rejection. yn
case 'he resolution is voted down
second time no more motions TO re
consider cbr' pc made, and tae treaty.
70 all int"nts and purposes, would be
dead, said Senator Lodge.
4 a5ter the adoption Of these yeser-
'V"t:onS, Senator Lodge continued
YOU defeat the resolution Of ra,itica
ion--and YOU can defeat it-you may
look 10! a lon: delay indeed. II viii
be the delay Of death"
Senator Underwood declared that
there was "no parliamentary law nor
common sense To sustain Senator
Lodges position The reservations
could not be considered before the
resolution was presented. he contendcd
and he insisted that after the defeat
Of the ratifying resolution offered bv
senator Lodge other resolutions could
be presented until one WAS adopted.
The Nice-President's Ruling
IN his ruling, Vice President Marshall
said:
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