The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-08-23
CITES JUNE SAILINGS
War Trade Board Rulings
Provided for Lifting Ban
on Germany.
LODGE WAS UNANSWERED
Not Dealing With Enemy So
Far as He Knew, President
Had Told Conference.
Special Despatch to Tvs Sun.

WAsBN0roN, Aug. Ex-senator Fall
IN. NJ made direct reply to-day from
the Senate floor to President Wilson
and declared sharply that the Presi-
dent was mistaken in saying that
trade with Germany has not been re-
sumed.
During the conference of the For
eign Relations Committee with the
President Mr.. Fall submitted a list of
questions in writing, which the Presi-
dent answered yesterday. One of these
questions. No. 8, was:
Are you licensing trade with Ger
many?"
The President replied: 81 have an
swered your eighth question In reply
to a question asked me at our confer
ence the other day" This was a ques-
ton OF Senator Lodge (Mass), to
which the President answered that SO
far as he knew We were not dealing
with the enemy. To this Senator
Fall took decided exception to-day,
showing that In fact a very large
business is now proceeding between
the United States and German ports,
goods going directly.
Some publicity" said Senator Fall,
has been given to certain questions
which were propounded by me In writ
ing to the President of the United States
fAu AaO .tn
between the members OF the Committee
on Foreign Relations and the President
and the answers to such interrogatories
furnished me by the President / may
say that such publicity was given by
the White House, and not by me.
AS It appears from the public press
that in answer to the eighth interroga-
tory which I presented to the President
reference was made to the answer of the
President to another Senator, Senator
Lodge. l desire to not only clear the
record in that matter. but TO call the
attention OF the Senate to the fact that
the President was not informed upon the
particular matter at Issue"
Reads Question and Answer.
Senator Fall read his eighth question
to the President and the Presidents re-
ply. He said that the only question
asked the President at the conference
dealing with the resumption OF trade with
Germany was the one asked by Senator
Lodge. He read Senator Lodges ques-
ton and the Presidents reply from the
report of the interview.
The President OF the United States"
Senator Fall continued, FIRST stated In
answer to the chairman OF the commit
tee that we are not dealing with the
enemy in so far as he knew For the
purpose of Illuminating the subject
somewhat l shall place certain docu-
ments in the record. stating. however,
that the suggestion OF the chairman that
| licenses were being issued or business
done with Germany was based upon the
record of the hearings before the COM
mittee. where the attention OF one of
the witnesses was called to advertise
ments appearing In the New York papers
Of the sailing of vessels with oargoes
destined for Germany. The President
evidently was entirely uninformed upon
| the subject"
by the War Trade Board Section of the
!
authoriEing the issuance OF general IL
oenses for exports to German ports and
also the anne ndments that were made by
the War Trade Board on July 20 and
August 7. Senator Fall continued:
"In the month OF June, as shown by
the reports, prior 10 the issuance OF the
circular of July ~, from the Govern
ment's report It will be asoertained that
in the month prior TO the issuance OF the
order suspending entirely the trading
| with the enemy act the export trade be-
tween this country and Germany was
| Ss,7ss,000.lS. During the same moGth
| the export trade with Spain was IS. .6SS-
| 900 or 500, 900 less. In the month of
June alone the export trade OF the
United States with Germany was double
I the entire export trade OF this country
with all Central American States on this
continent The export trade during that
time with the Central American States
was $4.S7S.221."
Trading Was in Month of June.
May ask the Senator II that was for
the month OF Juner' inquired Senator
Lodge.
THAT was for the month of June, -
replied Senator Fall. "and prior to these
| orders suspendlng absolutely the trading
with the enemy act and allowing the citi-
zens as they saw At to trade with Ger
many freely"
$50 that my question whether we were
not now trading with Germany as a
matter OF fact was not answered" re-
marked Senator Lodge.
Senator King (Utah) asked Senator
Fall II no would show what was the
character of the exports TO Germany.
"I am referring to the answer OF the
President OF the United States. and no,
to the details OF the trade with Ger.
many" replied Senator Fall THE Pres.
ident OF the United States says directly
In answer TO the Senator from Massa.
chusetts that In so far as he knows we
have not resumed trade with Germany
] am showing what the facts are OF
record, and I am not accusing the Presi,