Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1919-08-19

gard to what was to be done with the
pieces Of the dismembered empire.
Took Smuts's Suggestions
After ! got to Paris, therefore. !
rewrote the document to which | have
alluded, and you may have noticed that
it consists of series of articles and
then supplementary agreements. II was
in the supplementary agreements that
embodied the additional ideas that
had come to me not only from General
Smutss paper, but from other dis
cussions. That is the full story of how
the plan which I sent to the committee
was built up.
SENATOR LODGE - Then. of
course. it is obvious that the General
Smuts's plan had been used. That
appears on the face of the document.
THE PRESIDENT-"Ye
| SENATOR LODGE-"Then there
was a previous draft in addition to the
one you have sent to US. You spoke of
rcdraft. That was not submitted to
! the committee.
THE PRESIDENT--"No: that was
privately, my own.
'tbAN "a L oh b1D'IJ W oS ~ -
fore our commission"
THE PRES1DENT-"No, it was not
before our commission.
Drafted Article 10
The President said draft Of Article
10. which Senator johnson had pre-
sented to the committee was part Of
the draft which preceded the draft
which was sent to you.
Senator johnson said he had taken it
from the Independent.
THE PRESIDENT read II with
the greatest interest. because ! had
forgotten it. to tell the truth, but
recognized it as soon as ! read it.
SENATOR JOHNsON-"It was the
original planH'
THE PRESIDENT-"It was the
original form of Article 10, yes.
Senator Lodge said he had been abou
to ask whether Article 10 in it's presen
form had been in the British plan, bu
il there were no definite drafts OF thes
plans. of course, the cOmmitte could no
get them.
Asked by Senator Lodge whether h
had seen the resolutions for leagu
submitted by Secretary Lansing, tn
President replied
Yes"
SENATOR LODGING specific
action was taken upon them?'
THE PRESIDENT--"Sot in for
NAL way"
Senator Lodge then asked whethe
the United States would receive an
part of the German reparation fund.
THE PRESIDENT left tina
s question open. Senator. because | di
not feel that I had any final right t
decide it
Wants No Reparation
o Upon the basis that was set III
s in the reparation clauses the portion
: that the United States would receiv
y would be very small at best. and m,
= own Judgment was frequently expressed
q not as a decision, but as judgment
d that we should claim nothing unde
Il those general clauses. ] did that be
Y cause coveted the moral advantag
o that that would give us in the counsel
of the world
# SENATOR McCCMBER-"Did tha
{ mean we would claim nothing for til
d sinking of the Lusitania?'
e THE PRESIDENT-"Oh. so. Tha
: did not cover questions of that sort a
% ALL"
d The President added that pre- wa
e claims were not covered by the repa
It ration clause. and said the reparatio
e commission would decide. He repeate
that American participation in the rep
arations remained to be decided.
GIN SAyrnD nnCE ~ ooo,
9 mission?'
n THE PRESIDENT-"By the com
IS mission.
VI Senator Lodge asked if there ha
e been any recommendations by America
= naval authorities as to whether tn
United States should have one of tn
5. I.adrone. Caroline or Marshall Island
it for naval purposes.
. Never Heard OF zap
,e THE PRESIDENT-'T was
= paper on that subject. senator, whic
has been published. ! only PARTIAL
Il remember it, 1t was n paper layin
out the general necessities of our navf
policy in the Pacific. and the necessit
It of having some base for communica
" ton upon those islands was mentioned
just in what form ! do not remembe,
" But let me say this: There is a littl
y island which | must admit had nc
y heard of before"
SENATOR WILLIAMS-"The isl
, and of Yap?"
!. THE PRESIDENT-"Yap. it
!, one of the bases nnd centcrs of cab
and radio communication on the Pacifi
N and ! made the point that the dspos
~ tion-or rather the control-of tn,
island should be reserved for tho pp,
4 eral conference which is to be he
in regard to the ownership and operf
tion of the cables. That subject
mentioned and disposed Of in this trea
e and that general cable conference
= to be held
"a SENATOR LODGE-"I had under
stood. or / had heard the report. tn
u our general board of the Navy d,
= partment, our chief of operations, hi
recommended that we should have
footing there, primarily in order to 81
Z; cure cable communication
d THE PRESIDENT-"I think yc
~ are right, sir.
lg Brings Up Shantung Issue
1t Senator Lodge referred to the seer
lie treaty between Great Britain and Japi
m regarding Shantung and said that
d, the correspondence relating to Il
ut treaty it was stated that Great Brita
should have the German islands sou
.e Of the equator and Japan those north
:. the equator.