New-York tribune., 1919-10-15

support, and that he will work for the
early disposition OF the treaty. He
said that vote on the Shantung amend
ment may be had on Thursday.
''No matter how scholarly or how in
teresting u discourse may be on this
problem it avails little unless it reaches
some conc ,usion that will settle some
thing besides a mere sentiment" said
Senator McCumber in reply to Senator
Lodges snecch on Shantung. Il do not
believe there is any one in the Senate
who would be pleased to see the Ger
man concessions in Shantung retained
permanently by Japan, ! do not believe
there Is d Senator who does not agree
with the Senator from Massachusetts
that the purposes OF Japan have been
to control China. No one questions
but that little empire with 45,000,00O
people must necessarily seek SOME out
let for her population and some terri
tory in which she can trade.
Wants Definite Action
Japan. starting in the line Of pro-
gression very. many years behind the
Western nations, seeks her outlettine
channel, and we viii all agree that
whatever she may gain in China in the
absolute control over the industries of
that country will be detrimental to the
commerce of the Western nations.
but after we have agreed with
these propositions the question stares
US in the face: How are you gong
to settle it? How are you going to
wrcst this territory from Japan
Does the Senator from Massac chusetts
believe that if we insert the name
China in Articles 1856, l57 and 15S
in the place of the word Japan that
has sett ed this question?
"Japan's answer would Nbe: Well
What will be our reply? VIII it be
war? If it is not war it is not any
thing, and | am opposed to pointing
gun which is unloaded, and when the
party at whom 1T is AIMED knows it is
unloaded. TO my mind it is far bet
ter from standpoint of national
honor as we'll as the viewpoint of q
practical settlement that we do not
attempt to do that which we do not
intend TO carry out"
In the course of the debate Senator
Reed alluded to Japan as having stolen
Shantung. Senator McCumber replied
that promiscuous epithets should not
be applied to nations associated with
the United States in the war.
Reed Demands Retraction
81 know that since the war has prac-
tically closed great many Senators
prefer now to consider these nations
as our enemies" Mr.. McCumber Went
! on. "and Germany seems to be more al
object Of solicitation than our friends
who helped US to defeat Germany.
think the Japanese people have some
sense of national honor and integrity
and | would rather stand UPON that anC
10 s\No
Senator Reed, jumping to his feet
eXclaimed:
II am going to ask if the Senator
when he said that some Senators were
becoming more 'solicitous' about Ger
many than they were about the right;
Of our associates. meant that and I
so, want him to name the Senators.
'There have been great many ar
guments on the foo, of the Senate,
replied Mr.. McCumber, argument!
filled with hatred, nlled almost will
curses of our principal ally (Grea
Brittany in this great struggle and il
the attempts to prevent the adoption
of the league OF nations they hav'
been made on the assumption that w
must SO guard ourselves in very par
ticular that there could not pc a de
cision against us, even though we wer
|
by arguments on the floor that we wer
| in effect getting such grip on tn
throat Of Germany that we woul
strangle her TO death for all futur
time. That is what l mean and tha
is sufficient for me-"
Point of Order Raised
"This cry of pro- Germanism has be
come very frequent here" retorte
Senator Reed generally more by in
nuendo than by direct statement"
II had not used the wor pro GeY
manism' myself" declared Senator Nc
Cumber.
"The Senator came very near it," re
piled Mr. Reed, "but if he wishes t
rotract it now | have nothing to say
81 have no desire to retract anythin
l stated" snapped Mr. McCumber.
"If the Senator does not propose t
retract then | propose, under the rule
Of the Senate to have this matter Sc,
tied right now" insisted Mr. Reed.
Il have the floor and | decline t
yield" returned Mr.. McCumber. "W
will see whether the rules of the Sen
ate viii be enforced or not"
Senator Ball, who was in the chair
ruled that Senator McCumber was en-
titled TO the floor. Senator Reed con
tended that when another Senator wa