New-York tribune., 1919-10-02

called the problem one of "Aesh and
oiooo. There was no question of
loyalty involved, he said, for whether
the salaries were raised and whether
the men got what they wanted they
> their trust
1t was impossible for man to live
in New York, Judge Gibbs said, and to
bring up family on an income of less
than Sl,Soo year. He urged the COM
mittee to support the mems request.
Surrogate NJ. S. Schultz, of The
Bronx, contrasted the action Of the
New York police with that of the police
OF Boston.
Because our men did not grasp Us
by TIE throat to enforce their demands
will not grant what they so properly
request ?" he said
Herman A. Metz, a former City Con-
troller, said he was warmly in favor
Of increases for every city employe.
Mr.. Metz recalled that when he took
up his former office he found that
there were garnishees on the salaries
of all classes of city employees, from
Judges down to the lowest grade of
unskilled laborers.
Our Office was was nothing but collec-
I q,
and added that he knew personally
that the majority of city employees
We're underpaid
William R. Bradley. secretary of the
Civil Service Society, and Joseph
Beere, representing the per diem en-
ployes, put forward the claims of their
respective organiza tions. DR.. Maud
Glasgow, of the Health Department,
who made plea for the doctors and
nurses of that department, whose sal
aries she stated during the past few
years had been in some cases cut in
half
During the flu epidemic six Of the
city's nurses had died after contract
ing the disease on duty, she said, and
she held that such devotion and loyalty
was not less worthy Of recognition than
the sacrifice of the police and fremen.
Alderman Gaynor asked if some one
was present to say word for the
street cleaners. President Prial stated
that the street cleaners representatives
TO the forum had been called before the
Board of Estimate in connection with
their claim
Speaks for A. F. of L.
A man who gave his name as William
Collins said he represented the Ameri-
can Federation Of Labor. There was
some commotion, and Chairman Ken
neatly asked Collins if he represented
employees Of any city department. Col
Inns replied by reading a list OF city
workers affiliated with the A. F. Of L.,
which included the Technical Mems
Union, the street cleaners and the Uni
formed Firemen's Association.
Mr.. Collins was given the floor and
after complaining that the speakers
he A1 1
labor ne stated that the city employees
were disgracefully underpaid The city
should set an example to private en-
ployers he said
In opposition to the increases Miss
Ellen Kirk Downs asserted that she
knew every traffic policeman from 1Slst
Street to the Battery. She said she
mad an appointment yesterday with the
Mayor, but that he had refused to see
her.
DO you want to know what went
to see the Mayor about?" she asked
the meeting, and when several in the
audience replied in the negative she
hurriediy left the meeting.
No ether opposition appeared. AL
derman kenneally expressed the COM
mittees s favorable disposition to the
increases asked He added that he had
just received word OF the illness of
Board of Aldermen, which would pre-
vent the presidents appearance. but
he declared that he knew that Presi-
dent Moran was in full sympathy with
the requests of the city employees.
Several of the organizations had no
opportunity TO present their cases,
among them the Police Matrons' AS
sociation, which is seeking through the
Forum for an increase for police ma
irons TO $3.50 q year. The matrons,
1t was stated later. are required to pass
the same examinations as patrolman.
but are not included in the patrolmen's
pay ratings.
Among the civic organizations rep
resented was the Women's City Club,
which has indorsed the claims Of the
patrolmen.
Mr.. Prial, who organized the meet
ing. expressed himself as we'll pleased
with the result.
'lc was an orderly, proper demonstra-
said.