Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1919-05-27
Debated viii Within Limited
Lines and For Purposes of
Explaining Terms Germans
Do Not Understand,
TO LEAVE NO EXCUSE
FOR REJECTING PACT
Plan Has Been Defined By
President Wilson and TaC-
ticaIIy Accepted By the
Other Allied Members,
by Herbert Bayard Swope.
Copyright. 1919. by the Press Publish
ing co.
(The New York WorldD
Especial cable Dispatch.)

NSptCldl tdDie l)lSldlcn,D
Paris, May 26-Oral lnterchanges
are to be permitted between the GER
mans and the allies, ] am able to
make this statement upon ndisputa-
BILE authority. 1T must not be taken
to mean that the gates are to be
thrown wide open for the formal de-
bate of every possible point by full
delegations, but there will be reason
able discussion Of matters really es-
seential.
The p,an, which has been definitely
approved by President Wilson and has
been tacitly accepted by his associates
of the Big -Four, is to arrange for a
series of meetings. ostensibly Of eX
perts Of the various commissions, who
will eXcnange pleas on certain phases
of the treaty. From this beginning
there will be an expansion of subjects,
until all the essential matters in dis
pute will be reviewed.
New Course Adopted.
This may not seem to be much of q
variation from the announced pro-I
gram, but it really constitutes a radi-I
cal departure, for up to this timeI
there have been no meetings to discuss
the actual treaty the conferences thatl
have been held having related TO
matteT that arose beicFe tn" treaty,
was submitted, such as the Germaai
payment for food, relaxation OF the
blockade, financial measures, the ar,
mistice, ana kindred matters.
The new plan Will bring together
memGers OF the allied ana enemy DELI
eeationS, at what will be termed meet
ings of experts at which efforts VIII
be made TO change the real or tancled
German bellef that the treaty was de-
signed Tor the economic or poIiteal
destruction of Germany.
Experts to Meet First.
in the beginning the meeting VIII
be attended by persons assigned from
the American, French and British eX-
perts to meet enemy representatives.
As the subjects develop and are ex-
tended a plenlpotentary or so VIII bel
present in person or by capable depu-
ties.
l am informed that the flrst sug-
gestion for meetings came from thei
French who do not relish the thought
that Germany InJV refuse to sign the
treaty. The Americans thought well
of 1t and they put it up to the presl-
|N''' '''O
ural means OF aiding the speedlhs-upi
process III bringing pack peace 10 TIE
world. He has all along Favored any
plan from Which behetits might De
expected, even though the no-oral dis
cuss'oh program hllsht 'herepy pe
disaranged.
vital changes IhilkeiN'
There was agreement on lhe pan
for no oral dlscuSSlohS' IN oruer loI
Keep up the appearance OF dictateu
peace The peace VIII sun be dictated,
TOT 1t IL eA'ieilielS uhltNSy tio WI
be any changes OF moment IN the text
OF the terms by tne he" plan' now
ever there VIII pe clearer uhueistahu-
ing OF the slthatlon ana an aouo's WIN
be removed which otherWise the yer
mans might utlllze as an excuse LOT
course that might better pe avo,oeo'
Saar Terms 10 6e Modiiien.
After protracted session OF the
Dig fouI 'h'S al'ei iioo, l.1.I 'uolo '
was reached WHEREBY lhe terms soV-
the Saar Valley are 10 De nioui-
tled IN manner laVorapie " .he
German contentious on that point
The actloh represents the ilrs' Nictoly
OF the German uelesatioh' put Is ilioIe
apparent ttiah ledl' wy inioi 'iio',o"
is that White tne terms are 10 pe a.
tererd there VIII hot pe supsl"nlla,
changes III the paSic priilcipies, anu
the provision Wherepy .he nei lid,
flag comes down ls 10 De enlor,eu
However the CLAUSES are alieIleu III
their economic nature tnouen JUS.
what the amounts are WIN hoN o'
made puDlic urtii toiilolLom' ,.I
Also, there are TO De SllSnl CHdHStSl
in certain of the reparation terms