The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-07-16


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a. Yes
q. Don't you recollect that on aerount
of just such talk as this that the Gov
eminent was compelled to adopt con-
scription?
A. 1 think conscription Is the only fair
way.
Q. You were opposed to CONSUMPTION?
A. No.
Q. Didn't you say CONSUMPTION was
one OF the things to be hated in your
article?
A. That is the law that Is. when we
have Y.
@. Didn't you say that CONSUMPTION
was the basis for mliitarism?
A. don't know about that; l don't
think so.
q. You thought CONSUMPTION was
good thing?
4. know CONSUMPTION is the law.
Conscription the Fairest Way.
Q. What you said. while you were op-
posed TO all increases in the army. II it
had TO be Increased. was the fairest way
to do it would be by conscription?
A. That is the proper way.
Q. | call your attention to concern
ing preparedness CONSUMPTION the base
of militarism, is advocated only What
do you mean by that?
A think Mr. Delavigne wrote that.
Q. You think he wrote it?
| A. Yes
Q. Wrote 1t for you?
A. Yes am responsible<f for 1t, but l
think he added that paragraph.
Q. 1t was not in accordance with your
views?
A. Not just like that
Q. You put those things in circula-
ton Throughout the United States, for
the public to read and be influenced by
them?
A. Yes.
O. Now, you say some of the things
you said in that were not your views,
but were Mr.. Delavigne's?
A. He wrote It.
Q. You signed II?
A think I signed it, and am re-
sponsible for II.
Q. Did you ever deny IL?
A. No. sir.
=. You still say, Notwithstanding what
you said there. that you are In favor or
conscription, II there had to be an in
crease in the army,
A. II we have war. l am in favor OF
transcription.
printed In the advertising columns of
newspapers and magazines throughout
the United States Others will follow"
Do you recollect that?
A. II II Is in the book.
Q. ~ have no other purpose than to
save America from bloodshed. and its
young men from conscription." Is that
Mr.. Delayigne. too?
A. II 1t was In there, 1t went out; It
was Mr.. Delavigne.,
q. II was not yours?
| A. No, II was not mine.
Doesn't Think He Read IL.
Q, 1t went out over your signature?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you read It?
A. l don't think SO.
Q. Do you mean to tell this jury that
you had set out to educate the people,
advertisements printed broadcast all
over this country, and you did not know
what was In them?
A. 1 sent out many statements to
cause people to think
q. You mean to be understood as say
ing that you sent the thousands and
hundreds of thousands OF statements
broadcast throughout the United States
and did not know what was in them?
A. did not know everything that was
in them.
@. 1.-THE nations of the world need an
| example TO lead tnem away from war,
and this, the country we live in. is.
believe. the land destined to show the
world the. ways toward the end of this
murder" Is that your view?
A. l still believe IT,
Q. Therefore you said: Let us have
disarmament let US show that we mean
peace when we say the word and the
world will follow in that. too" That
was your remedy?
A. Yes, II 1t Is In there.
Q. III these men who brought on the
war were insane we could comprehend
the cause OF the war but when we
think that It Is all done coldly. deliber-
ately by these militaristic parasites and
that millions OF men are torn from the
life that is theirs by right OF birth and
driven TO slaughter by the system OF
murder that envelops those nations We
are crushed by the enormous crime"
: DO you think that Belglans were COM
hitting murder?
| Judge Murphy: That Is objected TO as
incompetent and immaterial
The Court: The objection Is sustained.
Q. Do you believe In the right of a
country 70 defend itself?
| A. Yes.
. Q. Do you believe II Is the duty OF
a country to defend its citizens? .