Evening journal., 1919-08-01
DIFFICULT FOR US.
TO REFUSE FRANCE
This Statement Made by
Prof. Seymour in Explain
ing Separate Treaty
FINAL l. CURE ON
PEACE c. NFi r NC :
special 10 The Evenlng journal

Special to The Evening Journal.
NEWARK, Aug Professor Charles
Seymour. OF Yale University gave his
final lecture OF a series on the Peace
/ Conference, which he attended as one OF
! The expert advisers TO the American
Commission, at the Delaware College
Summer school last night Professor
seymour spoke on what the Peace
Conference did" and he discussed some
OF the great questions that came before
tile big four and the Council OF Ten,
and how they We're settled
The speaker referred to the much
talked OF separate treaty between
America. England and France Under
this he said England and America sim
I ply promise TO protect France in case OF
aggression on the part OF Germany. This
fact alone he thinks, will tend 10 pre-
vent war and he said there is very little
possibility OF America being called on to
keep her promise in this instance. when
| it is known that IL France is attacked,
! America and England will go 10 her aid.
/ He referred TO the moral OF the promise
and said looking back TO the origin OF
| the American Republic, il was diflcult
! thing for us TO refuse France anything.
Professor Seymour also touched on
/ the Shantung matter. which has also
caused much complaint against the
league. He told of Germany securing
its rights In Shantung, which were
taken from her during the war. lie
stated that he had no personal knowl-
edge of Just what took place In The dis
cussion on this question by the big
/ l.tsN oN.A AI.
France and Italy favored Japan getting
for the time, Germany's rights in shan
tung This left the American deleeation
two alternatives They either had TO ac-
cept and sign or refuse and go home In
the latter event the conference, hs
stated, would have broken up, which
would have caused great Joy in Ger
many. Professor Seymour. also asked
II America had refused TO sign The treaty
IN Germany's rights in Shantung went
to Japan. would the delegation also have
been justified in holding out until Eng
land and France gave up similar rights
that they hold in China, China loses
nothing that she had not previously lost
and Japan gains the rights in Shantuus
formerly held by Germany the
speaker said.
Professor Seymour referred 10 the
fact that the treaty does not fx the
exact amount OF indemnity that Ger
many shall pay. as it was uncertain in
the minds OF the delegates how much
she could pay, but she must pay saeo0-
100000 the lrst two years. The amount
that she is to pay the next thirty years,
will be decided by a. reformation COM
mission. The speaker said Germany is
practically a Vasssl Of the other pow
ers under the treaty and enumerated
the many things thu Germany viii have
10 do because OF her forcing this war on
the world
Professor Seymour said the treaty was
FAR from a perfect one. He personally
does not like the idea OF not fixing an
exact amount that Germany shall pay
he regrets that allied troops will remain
in certain territory so long and con-
siders the section relative 70 the trial
OF the Kaiser foolish. he considers it /
would make a martyr OF him and that 4
he Is suffering more under his present /
conditions than he would n brought 10 /
trial "But with all-the mistakes that I
were made and some Of the mistakes d
were necessary, I think the treaty
good one" the lecturer stated. IN all
the criticisms. we never hear any sug-
gestions that would better the treaty,
he remarked
In speaking about the controversy
over Fiume, Professor Seymour said I
the experts OF England. France and the /
United states agreed that the city /
should not so TO Italy. There was no /
strong reason he said, under the condi- /
tions, why Il should have gone 10 Italy. I
In conclusion Professor Seymour /
spoke OF the League OF Nations feature I
OF the treaty lie stated that II Is /
often said that the league held up work
on the treaty 10 was Just the reverse, 4
he said The League was considered a /
necessity and II there had not been any
league ihe conference would still have /
been in session" lie said that the treaty
could not be enforced with Germany but
for the league and that many other
complex and important questions could
not have been settled except for the
OF the league.
Europe for Europeans and America for /
Americans That is an expression we
often hear. Professor Seymour said,
but the old system OF Europe has gone I
10 pieces and we cannot keep out. There
,annot be a league without the United
STATES under present conditions. This
,ounxy is the least interested in prob
ems following the war in Europe, our
,nly aim being the preservation OF
Deace.
ct is our duty" the speaker said, ITO
20 into European affairs and we could
not possibly stay out" Professor Sey-
nourl said that some OF the amend
nents and reservations talked OF are
already in the treaty and are therefore
useless. Il is important he stated, that
the treaty be ratified as soon as posi-
BILE, and il should be seen that any
that holds up ratification is
really important Europe needs to es-
cape, he said from the atmosphere OF
uncertainty.