The Washington times., 1919-10-01

hours q day number CASA; ten hours,
Ss,e94' and eight hours, Ss,9o4, Gary
Machinery Largely Used.
Work in the steel mills is largely
BY machinery, Gary explained.
ITS hard work to work hard
whatever does" he added, but
its nothing like the work / used 70
do when was a boy on the farm"
Isn't the actual work more nearly
30 per cent than 100 per cent Of the
time required, Phipps asked, re4
ferring to the tWelve-hour day.
They are not working over about
half Of the time" Gary replied.
Questioned on Iu6uen.
Senator's Kenyon and Walsh asked
Gary regarding the issues OF the
strike.
both stated that the cause Of the
committee" Kenyon said.
'They ought to know IL they called
IT," Gary replied.
Then you agree with that state
ment?" Kenyon pressed.
81 will agree to the statement that
there was no cause. We have always
been on the best terms with our men,
with few exceptions" Gary replied.
Rule On Complaints.
eve, have a standing rule that any
men who ara dissatisfied may come
singly or in groups to a foreman or
superintendent, and, IL necessary
they may come to the president or
the chairman Of the company"
Judge Gary related how after COM
r.Hn
shop practice, he investigated and ore
dered the foreman TO rescind his
orders.
Gary said Il never occurred to him
that a strike would follow IL he de-
cliied to meet union leaders.
Dldn't Think Of Strike.
you declined to hear the officials
Of organized labor because you be-
lieved they didn't represent the en-
ployes?' Senator Walsh asked.
That's right" Gary aasented. I'VE
made IL our business to treat our men
right"
did you know when you declined
to see the men that Il would lead to a
striker" Walsh continued.
1T didn't occur % me-" Gary re-
piled.
Does Net Deal With Unlonus
Haven't you learned since that
they did represent some OF the EN-
plOyes-some at elast went out on
strike p Walsh asked.
II have learned since that a small
per cent Of the men Joined the union.
I make no objection TO that what
ever" Gary said. 81 want to be frank
enough to say that It has been my
policy not to deal- with union labor
leaders"
"At any timer" walsh asked.
"At any timer" Gary replied. For
the reason that we do not believe IN
contracting with unions.
STANDS for Open shop.
II am not antagonizing unions.
They have a perfect right to organize.
II all comes down 70 one question
unions-the open or the closed shop.
we stand for the open shop. We
claim that q man can work for us
whether he belongs to a union or
not"
II any men have been discharged
because OF union afnliation It was
contrary to policy, Gary added.
Ibid you seek TO prevent oFganiza-
tiqn Of unions in you4 shop?'' Sterling
eve did not in any respect" Gary
why He Won't Arbitrate.
THE whole country would like 70
hear what you believe Is the funda-
mental moral issue which you think
you cannot arbitrate," Borah sug-
gested.
'aTEe whole question Is one OF the
open or the closed shop" Gary re-
peated.
"The open shop Is essential to
progress and prosperity, and the
closed shop means. loss production
and higher cost. When you are con-
sidering the high cost OF living there
Is nothing more important than that
manufacturers be allowed to operate
unhampeFed."
"If this strike were successful II
would mean decay, higher costs, and
this country couldn't compete with
other countries. Here were rank out
siders who stated they were starting
out to organize the steel industry,
not TO secure better pay or better
conditions.
On Defensive, Says Walsh.
TT seems to me you're on the de-
.fensive," Walsh declared to Gary.
-'The men sent you a courteous letter
asking for q hearing. There was
issue Of an open or a closed ship in
cluded."
what Is he good OF unionizing II
the leaders can't talk to the employ
ers?" Walsh continued.
II don't think the employers
should treat with union leaders, es-
peclally Is the men themselves are
not requesting it," Gary replied
How could they have gotten the
men out on a strike II the men did't
follow them?" Walsh asked.
'aThe men didn't follow them"
Gary retorted.
Bans Union Leaders.
whats on my mind is your re-
fusal to meet these men who said they
represented your men, and II you
have any proof that they did not I'd
like to have IT," Walsh said.
Il did not think they did" Gary
said.
Would yoA have met the men had
they been Employer" Kenyon asked.
yes, unless they came as specified
union leaders," Gary replied. He re-
ferred to N. S. Tighe, president Of the
iron, Steel and Tin Workers Union,
rs an "estimable" man. But, Gary
said. weeu Tighe asked for a confer
snce. It had to be refused because
Tighe was coming as a union leader
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