The evening world., 1919-10-24
Quotes Hartog as Saying So
When "BoSS" Wanted
to Drop Out.
OBJECTED TO CHANGE
Mccarthy Was Ready to Put
Up Sf25,ooo Balance for
Tammany Chief.

dIIlllldlly O>luSl.
Additional statements made by
John A. Mccarthy. In connection with
the Murphy Hartog glucose case.
were made public yesterday Nc
Carthy. contractor and close friend
OF Murphy, was questioned by Max
Steuer. attorney for Hnrtog, in an
examination before trial OF the action
in which Hartog sued Murphy for
Sio,oOO,OoO. Murphy's response being
n counter suit for $4,000.
Hartog's complaint Is based on the
refusal OF Murphy to remain his part.
ner and the shutting of OF the supply
OF glucose he had been getting from
the Corn Products Company. The
proposal that Mccarthy take over
Murphys interest had been discussed
by Murphy, his lawyer. Baldwin. and
Mccarthy, but Hartog had not nc
quiesced. II was about this time,
when Murphy was getting impatient,
that Jim Smith. a Tammany AS
sistant District Attorney, issued sub
poenas for Hartog and some OF his
relatives
A part Of the additional statements
OF Mccarthy made public yesterday,
refer TO this particular matter, Nc
Carthy asserting that on ono occa-
sion he had met Hartog on the street
and Hartog had complained OF sew
eral things. The examination con-
tinued in part:
Q. Is that all that took placef A.
Oh, no, moro than that took place. He
handed me a subpoena to read, made
out by the State of New York or the
District Attorneys once. He said.
What do you think OF this7" ! said.
"I don't know. What Ii that forr'
He said, "Is this trying TO annoy me7"
said, ASK the fellow whose name Is
down there. lie said, Il wonder how
Mr. Murphy would like me to tell this
story to the newspapers and have
good hurrah in the papers"
WOULDN'T CARRY HINT Ed
THREAT TO MURPHY.
I said, why tho hell don't you go
and ask Murphy DO you put that
10 me 10 ask Murphy ] am not in
that business. am not a messenger
boy for you soaring Murphy, because
that isn't my line. II you got any
thing else 10 talk about glucose. talk
about 1t, but nothing else. And I
handed his paper back and told him
good day"
O. Whose uame was signed to that
subpoena?
A. 1 couldn't tell you now. 1t was a
form of subpoena.
Q. Didn't It say on Il: ASK for As
distant District Attorney SMITH"
A. That, couldn't say.
O. You know Smith? A Yes. I
knew Smith a long while.
Q. Didn't you see that on the sub
poena? A. No. 1 won't say IT wasn't
on II, but II II was on II, l don't know.
O. Didn't you look at the subpoena
TO see II you could help him out on IT,?
A. No, / couldn't get mixed up with
a man who was going to the District
Attorneys Office here or anybody else.
Q. Didn't II occur to you that in a
matter In the District Attorneys office
Mr.. Murphy might be useful? A.
never intervene between the District
Attorneys office in any question In
Volved.
Q. How is that7 A. I never went
to the District Attorney or to any
other person.
Q. It didn't occur 10 you that Mr..
Murphy might be Of any assistance.
A. 1 don't know that II he thought
so. he should have gone to Murphy;
not TO me.
@. Did he tell you what this sub
poena was about7 A. He didn't ap-
paronuy know what 1t was about
himself.
Q. Wasn't that the important mat
ter he wanted TO see you about7 ?
A. No. The important matter was
TO see Mr.. Murphy 10 talk about the
BALDWIN affair and to see II Murphy
and couldn't get together and
straighten the thing out so that Muir
ply would stay.
Mr.. Smith was asked by The World
yesterday whether he had any COM
ment to make on the revelations OF
his activities in this case. He re-
piled that he would make no state
ment
WAS LOOKING FOR MURPHY
NOT HIS MONEY"
Mccarthy told Mr.. Steuer that he
had stood willing TO put up tho re-
mainder OF $l25,0O0 which was TO have
been paid in to the treasury OF the
concern by Murphy, and that hi
would have TO put 1t up as his owr
contribution or as an advance FOL
Murphy. When he spoke of this tC
Murphy the latter told nm to b'
careful and TO go along and ind out
all he could about Hartog, 80 he dlC
this and found out things he did no
like but the nature Of which he die
not reveal TO Mr.. Steuer. as they hat
nothing 20 do with the business,
When no made the proposition Il
Hnrtnr thu lniInr ha said. refuaed thI