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that the following suggestions should
be carefully weighed in drafting tn,
forthcoming railroad programme:
I. Revision Of limitations upon
united or cooperative activities of
both rail and water carriers.
z. Emancipation Of railway opera
tion from financial dictation.
g.. Regulation of issue of securi-
ties.
q. Elimination of the twilight zone
Of jurisdiction between Federal and
statet authorities, in order that an
harmonious rate structure and ade-
quate service can be secured. state
and interstate.
5. More liberal regulations govern
ing the treatment of competitive
as compared with non-competitive
traffic.
6. Efficient utilization of equip
ment and provision for distributing
the burden of furnishing equipment
on an equitable basis among the re-
spective carriers.
7. A more liberal use and inter
change of terminal facilities by the
railroads.
3. Limitations within which COM
mon carrier facilities and services
may be furnished by shippers or re-
ceivers of freight either by owner
h,
Disagrees With McAdoo
While Commissioner Clark studi-
ously refrained from any mention OF
Director General McAdoo or his pro.
gramme during his direct testimony
under the subsequent questioning OF
Senators he frankly declared himself
and his colleagues of the commission
not in agreement with the McAdoc
proposal.
Senator Watson-Are all the mem
bers of the commission, with the ex-
ception of Mr.. Wooley, against the
fiveyear plan?
Clark-We don't think it wise plan
w dtooI--l Hell All tHe IneIlDeIS OF
the commission, with the possible ex-
ception of Mr.. Wooley, are opposed to
government ownership?
Clark-Yes.
Watson Then the commission, with
the possible exception of Mr.. Wooley
think it unwise to turn the railroads
back without LEGISLATION?
Clark Unqualifedly, yes.
Watson-Are you in favor of elimi-
mating all competition in the operation
of the roads?
Clark-All competition except the
competition in service.
Would you favor one mar
in the Cabinet at the head of the rail
roads?
Clark-We don't think that a desir
able plan. One man can make up his
mind quicker, but several minds work
ing together are more likely to pro
duce the right result.
Should Initiate Rates
Discussing the question of rates
Commissioner Clark declared that the
Interstate Commerce Commission
should have authority not only to ap.
prove rates. but should be further
empowered to initiate rates. He de-
clared his opposition to the mileage OF
standardized rate recommended in the
minority report filed with the committee
by Commis Missioner Wooley
The committee should also have
supervision over the issuance of Sc.
curities by the railroads, Mr. Clark
said
"lf the commission had power tc
initiate rates and regulate securities
would that constitute adequate super,
vision?" asked Senator Underwood. OF
Alabama.
Yes, if there were some furthe,
supervision over operation and ser.
vice." replied Commissioner Clark.
When asked by Senator Underwood
if he thought Federal incorporation OF
railroads was necessary, Mr.. Clark re
piled in the negative, saying he be-
iieved that proper supervision of the
issuance of the securities and of the
expenditure of money derived there
from would be sufficient without Fed
eral INCORPORATION.
How could the commission regulate
the issuance of securities by companies
organized under state charters 2" asked
Senator Underwood
We believe that the Supreme Court
ruling that when Congress speaks the
states give way would take care OF
that" replied Mr.. Clark.
Burden on Rate-Payers
Discussing the removal of limitations
which prevent cooperative activity by
the railroads and the pooling of their
equipment, Commissioner Clark said:
Under the policy heretofore fol
lowed by our government all efforts to
restrict the full play of competition
between carriers have been frowned
upon or prohibited. Obviously compe-
tition between carriers that is wastefuI
or unnecessarily expensive lays an
added burden upon the rate payers
Elimination Of wastcful or unduly ex-
pensive competition in rates or ser
vice is desirable and under the cxer-
cise by the government Of it's power to
regulate the service and the rates
which the carriers may charge and to
require an abatement Of all unjustly