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El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
OF YMPTC COMMITTEE
TO DISCUSS ANA TEUR
RULINGS VERY SOON

NEW YORK. Nov. 27.-Like a great
IN many other things the war has
apparently had an influence on the
great international question Of
what 81 an amateur The inter
allied games 81 Paris last June gave
the dyed in the wool amateur adher-
ents food for thought when they saw
the simon pure and the professional
in all branches OF games and sport
competing on an equal footing.
WIN Discuss Amateurs.
Those games have set the officials
Of the amateur governing bodies Of
sports on the continent thinking
deeply and nov there are rumors from
abroad that when the next Olympic
COMMITTEES meets there IS a uossin -lltF
Of the amateur law being brought up
FOR discussion The rumors appear
definite and there seems 70 be a
tendency and decided leaning toward
letting down the bars and a big
chance that 10 the European authorl-
ties can carry the day the Olympic
games Of 1924 viii be contested be-
tween the best men OF every nation,
irrespective OF the fact that these
men are amateurs or professionals.
When the y. II. G. A. originated
the iuterullled meet the 'orEnni-
Eufiou had the. vision and fore
sight 20 see a 1T the amateur
question was not one for the
armies Of the world 10 dabhle IN.
but. on the contrary, the games
should be made m ope comrcti-
ficn IN the true sense OF the
word So "a was that when the
original letter, date October Is.
1918, TO G. H. O.. IN Chaumont
there appeared this explanatory
notes
"a military interaliied meet would
being toEether the best athletes On
every sport from all the allied armies
and would undoubtedly be the great
est gathering OF athletes ever seen
Entry would be restricted 70 men
who had seen military service IN the
present war The mateur-profes-
si0naI question would be ignored"
Was q Big Success.
There were two objects IN mind.
first. TO get all nations TO interest
themselves and be held preliminary
championship Of their own armies.
which was done. second. to select the
best men TO represent the respective
nations IN this the 'Tr athletic d.
rector thought only OF the best man
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

as such ana gave no thought 10 the
question Of amateurlsm. Tn this he
was supported b. tie army Officials
and I'm due course the rules Of me
games went out distinctly specifying
that the amateur law was ignored
The game were IN unqualified
success. The results showed
amateur officials OF Europe n new
uEht. The days Of bitter strife
and arguments As between the
professionals and the amnteurz
had long age been releEated 10
history. The interaliisd games
once more brought the two fac
lions together on n basis Of far
better understanding and GER
dulufV than had ever been known
and the result Of a all g. thar the
European nations are now strong
for some reasonable way TO be
formulated whereby the amateur
law can be so altered that n VIII
allow the professionals in the
future 20 compete against or with
the amateurs At least in Olympic
games
To Is truly q revision Of old time
standards L IS not a new thought
the professional has been held 40 arm 8
length and suggested revision IS IN
q measure revolutionary.
II the amateur governing body %
any one country decided 10 iuvasti-
gate the competing OF its registered
athletes az these interalied games,
the whole world would have 70 follow
suit Practically every man In those
games who claimed 20 be an amateur
contaminated himself and according
to the amateur laws is now a pro-
fsssi0nal Who does not know that
Benny Mcneil or Al Norton have re-
ceived large sums for boxing 81 this
country YET these and many more
pros ere allowed 20 compete against
amateur boxers from all countries.
what Of the oarsmeu from 10 ua-
tons did not know that Alfred Eel
ton, OF Australia, was the professional
champion Of that country And j. IS
the same man Who recently won the
worlds title IL was known that
Nemeullen, the Frenchmau. who won.
the modified Marathon, had long been
a professional runner in his own
country. and Mason OF New zealand.
who defeated Earl Eby in the 500
metres run These are q few con-
crete examples Of professionals in
different sports-euough from the
amateur standpoint TO contaminare
hundreds OF competitor
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

MAY ] not hope that the corola+
w relations between England and
france may not be disturbed by the
approaching Carpenuer-Beckett battle
GOALS FROM TOUCHDOWNs.
1t is being agitated again that the
football rules committee eliminate
the goal from touchdown. and place
the fuH value On working the bah
over the line. Missed field goals
robbed Penn OF a tie with Dartmouth
the other day. although both teams
made three touchdoWns. The failure
u stein 10 kick a goal cost Washing
ton and Jefferson the game. although
the presidents clearly outplayed the
Painters. Any number Of incidents
OF this sort might be quoted Inc
feeling against the goal from touch
down is not new. Il has long been a
thorn fin the side Of player and coach
alike, but o. has been retained kick
Ing goals places a premium on skill
and for that reason, perhaps, il is
retained.
Jack Eearus IS concentrating his
attention on the consun1nation OF a
match between Jack Dempsey and
ice Beckett. II Beckett cannot be
induced 70 come 20 this country.
Dempsey. who has reeonsioered an
earlier determination not TO defend
his title on foreign soil. VIII cross the
seas 70 fight England's premier
heavyweight
II am willing TO listen TO any or
fers Tor bouts for Dempsey" said
kearns. "but the one i am most inter-
ested iu just row Is that which has
been made 20 enc for a Dempsey
Beckett bout at New Orleans. Dan
Torr0rich, the promoter in that city
has offered Jack $4,000 for his end
OF a bout with the English champion,
and pressure IS now being brought 10
bear on Beckett 70 make him agree
TO come over here, something he
doesn't appear TO be very anxious to
do I'll say this right now; IL I be-
come convinced that Beckett viii not
cross the ocean 10 fight Jack-and it
people who are now after hif1 ne
won't come II alive VIII 80 20
England
The fight game is remarkably pop
ular In England Just now Why,
f=ieud Of mine who recently returned
70 the United States told me today he
had paid f175 for a riugside seat for
the Becketr-McGoorty bout An Eng
lish soprtsman told me the other day
he would give Jack 100000 for his
end OF a fight with Beckett in Lon
don I asked him how much he
thought it would draw. and he said
in the neighhorhood Of 100000.
thought be was joking. but he as
sured me he wasn't i told him in
that case I'd demand Sz5o.000 Tor
Dempsey and he said he'd have 20
talk the proposition over with his as
sociates in England before he could
offer me that amount
Kearnz says that reports made TO
him by those who have recently come
from England indicate that the Brit
ish followers Of the glove game think
Beckett IS unbeatable
They tell me that even 81 the Brit
'sh fans had an opportunity 20 see
Dempser in action, they'd stiu hold
70 the belief that De would be soft
for Beckett" he said. ANY tire
Jack steps into the rmg with Beckett, /
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
England Offers TituIarCup
For Women Tennis Players

Anew YORK. Nov 27.-Eugland has
~ beaten the Americans by being
the first to offer an international
challenge cup for competition among
the women lawn tennis players. Ac-
cording 70 recent communications re-
celved from London the valuable
trophy. which Is to be to the women's
game what the Davis cup is 10 the
mems department OF the sport, has
been offered by 8Irs. HaI walker
While the exact details as 70 the
rules proposed 10 govern the competi-
tons for the newly instituted in
ternatlonal trophy are not forthcom-
ing. it is understood BY some o.
the American officials that one OF
the conditions states that the matches
are 20 be played annually a. Vim
bledon.
England Sets Pace.
The fact that an EnglishWoman
had taken the wind out Of the sails
OF the Americans provided sometnlna
.of sensation some OF the Ameri-
cans are inclined to feel that the
leaders in this country are placed IN
an embarrassing position, as a num-
Der Of Americans expressed their
desire to offer cup at the time Miss
May sutton. now Mrs. Thomas Bundy,
ANNAHN a AAANN Aa NIlarNaANNIA .M AAA-
ming the all England championship.
Since that time. overtures TO the
woman PLAYERS OF England have been
made to Join in an international
series for which a suitable cup would
be provided. 1t has been impossible.
however. to secure any responsive
interest
According to communication
from London the Formally OF Of
ficially launching the cup and the
1uutehes VIII not be gone through
with until the annual meeting OF
the EnElish Lawn Tennis 1Es0cla-
tiou next month. At that time
he conditions under which the
trophy T. uffeerd ard the In
Fltufious TO send teams Of com
pefitozE nre expected 20 he made.
IL Is the interest I'm the securing
Of entries from this country that
led 10 the announcement OF the
plans and the intimatlou that the
endorsement OF this country and
a favorable declaration OF its in
tentlon 10 compete would be up-
recinted at this time.
In an announcement sent 10 the
American officials comment is made
as follows.
Arouses Much Interest.
The offer OF a valuable trophy hv
Mrs. Han Walker for a competition
ny the women Of the nations has
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
FOR The GOOD OF THE GAME.
% % % % %
From TheKickOffT oTheT Touchdown.

/ ITTILSON McVEY, who has gained
w prominence in local football
: circles as an official. submits a query
which win prove as battling 20 the
average football follower as did the
/ last one given in these columns
Before. proceeding with this query
we wish TO state that Capt. Bob Ney-
lands reply TO the last query has been
substantiated in a letter received from
walter Camp. foremost football au-
thority In the United States The
noted Yale expert has also riven the
correct reply to McFey's problem.
few days
Here is Wilson's problem
Team A Is in possession OF the
BAN on Its own five yard line. IL is
the fourth down 10 is the second
half and there remains only five min
utes to play. The fuuback OF team
~ kicks The BAN strikes one Of
the linemel OF team "a" and rebounds
across the goal line defended hy that
. team A member OF team "A" falls
on the hal behind his own goal line.
Lle referee declares the ban dead
and rules the play a safety.
First question What would you
do were you caDtaln Of team "B H with
the score standing 6 70 o in favor Of
do were you captain OF team B"
with the score standing 8 TO o IN your
favor
Third question. Could you DO any
thing at all or would you be COM
PEELED to- accept the decision o. the
referee that the play is a safety2
Vow then. let US hear from all Of
you football dopesters. But be care
lul OF your answers, for there is Val
ter Camps reply fin the Office
LINE Is BLAMED FOR
THE Loss OF A GAME.
a player on one o. the local teams
propoundel a question recently which
VIII greatly tax the averaga Fan TO
answer and win tax the majority Of
those rersed in the game TO answer
satisfactorily. The question is this.
Why IS d. thar when a team is de-
ieated the line IS usually held 10 be
40 1ault. while in the eventof victory
credit IS almost Invariably given the
backfield
This fact f. true. generally
speaklnE. And the answer Is
very difficult, az first glance.
However careful summinE uu %
the situation finds the reply
which partly covers IL lies in
the psychological effect upon the
spectators Of unem field play and
especially Of spectacular play.
A iiuem1u may make hole for
his back TO 70 through on every
play. But 70 g. the back who
carries the han, energies into the
open field before the gaze Of the
crowd AMI pcrhupss gets away
FOR n long runs whose work is
noted and who receives the hom-
nEe of the stands. Tire lineuuu
has been The big factor On the
play. but he has been jummed up
IN the line perhaps lying atop
his opponent and o. uunoticeu by
the crowd.
on the defense 60 is the same. A
liueman maT pile up play on play
aimed at his position lie may make
tackle after tackle at the line. Yet
he remains unnoticed because he Is
piled up ia the Jam of bodies and the
crowd cannot be certain OF the man
making the play But once let a Z
runner pass the line and be stopped I
In the open field by a back in the I
secondary defence. Then hear the Z
crowd rise mp and shout his name.
tt is unfortunate for the lneman, D
nevertheless lt is true that q line I
player receives little consideration
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

naturally aroused tremendous inter-
est ererTWhare2 What excitement
there viii be when these teams Of
French Australian and American girls
compete on the same courts with
daughters OF EuElandl IL may De
found more difficult 20 secure rep
resentatiFe teams that can travel the
vast distances that were necessitated
By the mems competitions
TT has been urged that the most
satisfactory course would be 90 hold
the competition annually In England
on the face OF it this would seem
scarcely fair 20 the other countries
IRON the way the world is pro-
crossing a team Of Turkish women and
the chamuionesses o. China in the
final iH not an impossibnity.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

Omaha, Neb, Nov 1.-THE Rogers
cafe, five of Omaha rolled into third
place in the five men event in the
middlewest bowling tournament here
wednesday night by topping 2o41 pins
in their three games The Omaha
quintet also established new single
game mark. shooting 1898 in its sec
ond game.
Harold Fiegenschup OF Omaha shot
his vrar into fourth place in the
singles today with a score Of 62s-
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
GaVVy Cravath
May Buy Pitcher

Manage GaVTy CraVath 81 tie
PhiInes IS said 20 be negotiating a
deal with the Los Angeles club for
the services OF pitcher BIZ Pertica-
Los Angeles wants players fl ex-
change and the hitch IS over who they
shan be. Pertica IS a splthau FISCHER.
but Cravarh Is willing 90 take a
chance on him being able 20 use his
delivery iu the Rational league next
wear
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
PLNEHURST SCHEDULE
is A BUSY. ONE; MANY
BIG JOURNEYS BILLED

NEW YORK. Nov. 27.-Among the
N miscellaneous events On the Pine
hurst golf schedule that run all the
way from one day handieaps to cham
piouships. are three tournaments that
viii continue for four days, three more
that VIII cover five days and a like
number that vii go on for complete
week with the exception Of sunday.
The six day events are the 18th an
nuaI St Valentines turnament the
18th annual spring tournament and
the goth annual United North and
south amateur championship
OF these three the last is OF course
the most important conferring as IL
does on the winner the first title Of
consequences for the year. II viii be
preceded By the north and south open
championship on March % and 30 and
f5ioWed by che north and south title
event for women The dates OF the
amateur meeting are March 81 to
april g.
Fer the open championship the
prise money already has been an
nounced a. folloWss First $500;
second. SeOos third, $50; fourth
s50s eighth, 500 ninth, $50, ard
tenth, -. In addition 10 the first
prize Of S3Q0 the player making
the lowest score over the = holes
win receive a championship gold
medal, while in the event Of an
amateur being first he VIII re-
cefre n EuifanIe trophy. and the
$500 viii still go 20 the first pro
fcssfonaI contestant The ana
teur professional four ball match
win rrecede the open champion
shin.
Qualifying play IN the north and
south amateur Championship viii be
over s. holes and the finalists VIII
also be required 20 play a double
round. To the winner viii 50 the
Championship cup, while the other IS
winners win receive in order the gov
ernora, secretary's, treasurer's. cap
tain's. and club trophies. Sterling
trophies vii also be presented 10 The
division ruuners-up and consolation
winners IN all 15s. This. however, by
no means exhausts the list as les are
made up according 10 the number OF
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

entrants and the capacity Of the
courses.
Not the least Interesting part Of this
north and sOut hamateur champion
ship, win be the play for the CHS
holm Beach memorial cup. The late
-Ir- Beach was member Of Fox HIS
and prominent figure IN Pinehurst
tournaments This trophy is TO be
played for in connection with the
north and south championship under
conditions TO be announced later.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
Football GARD.
BIGGEST IN
HISTORY
Big Games Played Thurs
day in Different Parts
Of the City.
MILITARY SHOW
AT RIO GRANDE

DollBINING military snow Win
\ every arm o. ordnance on display.
with two foon,au games at Rio
Grands park and a southwestern hlgh
school Championship game at the
high school stadium. e Paso Thurs
day afternoon passed through Its
greatest football day in history.
slew Proved Popuiar.
Arranged as a side attraction %
the football games. the military show
attracted many thousands Of persons.
VINO Witnessed a mock air duel be-
tween ariators OF the guarding squad
ron at Fort Bliss saw French 70
demonstrated. and felt the earth trem-
bic at the discharge Of the gigantic
hovTitzers- Tanks charging barb wire
eutangIemeuts furnished more than
one thriu for the spectators and DEM
onstrated the usefulness OF these
monsters when they were developed
solely for the purpose OF ruunins
down the Prussian lines
The first game ut RE Grande
park started promptly at 2al5
o'clock. the Quarfcru.aater ard
Motor Transport teams taking
the field. just a. soon a. this
ZANE ended. the state school Of
Mines and All star Officers team
headed BY MAI. r. r Neylnnd-
lined tp and commenced TO battle
for the district title The Off
GERS team had a slight adru1taEe
in the matter Of Vrelght. bur this
was offset BY the condition Of the
Mines team. Whlch hns p1rtiei-
pated IN many games this season
and has met the strongest col
IeEc elevens % the soufhuesf dur
ing the last few weeks
stndIuu1 Scene Of Activity.
With the Tigers meeting the Al1u-
cuerQua high school in the neadllner
game. the high school stadium also
presented q busy scene. The firnr
contest brought the Las Cruces high
school team into action against the
little Tigers and = proved 20 Be some
game from the first bell In the sec
ond affair the visiting Albuquerque
eleven lined I'd against the first
string FL Paso eleven. and some pretty
football was seen The Tiger team
was in exceptionally good condition,
with not a regular man out OF the
lineup. and &c met an able opponent
In the Albuquerque school
The AIbuquerque team arrived
IN the city Friday ulEhts headed
BY manager J. W. Borland and
coach A. s. Moore. and was In
stalled On the Mccoy hotel The
team has won two and lest I'VE
games this season. while one cen
test has been tied The lineup OF
the Alhuquer1ue team lncludinE
substitutes follows
Barton, Quarterback; win half-
hack; Eerrio, halfbaczs p. HerriuE-
ton. halfbaczs Gaines uuarterback-
Hydsr. fuuhacz- Glassman. left ends
Il Gicmi. right end J. Gicmi, righr
raetle- Levitt. Iaft Cacl-Les Greater.
left guard. ". Hernandez. captain.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

Phoenix. Ark. Nov. 27.-As the
elimination OF a long dispute about
boxing in Phoenix. the city commis-
sion Wednesday granted the Phoenix
Athletic club a permit 10 stage box
ing contests each Friday night for
the next IL months, resembling for
mer action which prohibited such
contests IN Phoenix Gov Campbell
has announced his opposition 10 the
law permitting boxing contests in the
state and declared he would. in his
message to the next legislative ses-
sion. ask its repeal.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

With the drafring OF minor leaguers
by the majors now a thing OF the past.
uauv bush league owners are stu
holding TO their promising players in
the nope Of getting fancy price Tor
them from the big circuit
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

IN the scoring OF over 100 points
this season. Rodgers. the star fulhack
Of the west Virginia football team,
has earned the title Of -kinE Of the
cross bar
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

The boxing bams g nourishlnE in
New Jersey these days New clubs are
springing Up at a rapid rata and an
report big business.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27
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All Of the boxing. wrestling, football.
other athletic
wire service all biz and uarehea- Requests
found On the cournna % The Herald Fu leased
sporting EiTen special ateu
ton hy sports Informnri0u Bureau Telephone 1000
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

After defeating the Naval academy
football eleven Georgetown was in
turn defeated by Detroit university.
Then along came Tufts. consistent
loser this year, and walloped Detroit
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

u IS being whispered II baseball
circles that the veteran catcher Hank
Gowdy is 10 be placed on the block
by the Boston Braves.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

TAD BorEun. noted sport page carfoouiEt and
.auiEun. baseball
dopesferss T. Andrews, boxing critief Francis
Ouinrt greatest golfers worlds
Veiock baseball boxing WRITER'S
lending arrIhutors The Herald Department
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1919-11-27

. CAUSES A LAUGH.
. Charles A. ComisEey having Z
. repudiated the wild tale that 4
- any bolt from the American 4
- league ever was contemplated I
. By himself, Harry Frazee and I
. Jacob Rupert. and Frazee 4
- having denied that he origin {
. ared the story, the mystery is. {
. Who gave the New York news Z
= paper writers the tale out Of 4
. which they got such a big 4
. laughe Comiskey says no such Z
. scheme OF a new major league q
= broached I'm his hearing dur 4
9 ing his conferences with Eu-
. pert aud FraEee.