The sun., 1919-02-07

the American protests were whimperins
and wrong?
Mr. ochs did not answer for some mo-
nents and o'Leary continued:
Q. Doesn't II embarrass you to know
that your own newspaper was opposed
| TO the interests OF your own country?
A. No, don't agree with the conclu-
s.ons you draw. Insist that the New
York Times stands for Americanism
FIRST.
q When II assails United States
Senators who oppose Engiand's embargo
on American goods and says that Eng
land Is right?
A. ] resent the suggestion that the
Times Is sympathetic with Great Britain
In anything that 10 opposed to the In
terests OF the United States. There may
be differences OF opinion
Mr. Ochs seemed on the point OF maxi
Ing some observations not asked for by
the defendant and OLeary asked that
he make them through the columns Of
his newspaper.
.. Don't you know that the Times
printed an untrue account OF this trial
yesterday?
A. do not. and IL did I would dis
charge the man who did It Intentionally.
O'Leary then asked a number Of oues-
lions aimed to show that the Times had
some sort of a preference over other
| newspapers In the matter of gathering
! International news and that It's print
paper was purchased from Northcliffe
owned companies in Canada. Mr. Ochs
denied both allegations and said that
| he bought his paper IN Canada from a
company owned by Americans, but be-
cause II was impossible for him to get
It in the United States OLeary then
wanted to know II the Times had not
arranged for exclusive rights for DR..
Cooks story of his alleged discovery of
the north pole. On the contrary Mr..
Ochs said DR.. Cook sued the Times for
not using the story he supplied. He
denied also that such an arrangement
had been made with Peary.
why don't you ask me moro about
Lord Northcliffe?' suggested Mr.. Ochs.
IF I was as powerful a man as you.
Mr.. Ochs," O'Leary replied, II might
try to control everything. But I have
certain rights IN this court which hope
you will respect" OLesry then touched
on the freedom Of ireland and wanted
to know II the Times did not oppose the
freedom OF Ireland because Great
Britain did
| Positively not" said the witness with
emphasis
$4,000 = Day for Truth Society.
Can you mention one instance where
the Times has taken the American side
in any controversy between the United
States and Ensland?' he asked.
Mr.. Ochs said he could not recall any
specific instance at the moment
TRY to think OF one instance where
| the Times came out on the American
side Of the question" he pressed. EN-
every instance" replied Mr.. Ochs. THE
| Times is for Americas interests against
every other nation on earth
Earlier testimony yesterday was to the
| effect that OLeary's organisation the
American Truth Society received in 1916
| sometimes as much as $4,000 day In
contributions frequently from anonymous
sources. These larger amounts, IT was
| testified to by Mrs. Leo G. Kelly. a
former stenogrs phor OF the organization
generally followed some Of the organi-
zauon's mass meetings. Other daily
contributions averaged from $500 to ST.
| 900. Otto Helms, a German subject and
former president OF the Bosch Megneto
| Company (s!nce seised by the Alien
Property Custodian). testified that he
contributed $1,000.
Frank J. Rigny. q young Irish artist,
identified several Of the cartoons in Bull
as his work and aaId that some Of the
| Ideas were his own and some suggested
by o'Leary. He swore that the idea In
several was humorous rather than seri-
Gus.
| The Government also introduced In
| evidence a letter from O'Leary to Der.
nard H. Ridder dated August 9, 1911
oensuring Ridder for withdrawing from
the American Truth Society and criti.
cising the attitude OF his newspaper. the
Stddts-Zeitano. toward American PARTED.
patton In the war. OLeary wrote: "Ou!
| oxIo i
private views are Identical. Your pub
Tic views are wrong. II your public
views differ from mine your are a prope,
subject for criticism in Bun and you
should be willing TO stand for it,
The trial will continue to-day