The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-10-01
LANE CALLS FRANK
AN INTERNAL LIAR
He Gives Out Stenographic Re-
port of Their Stormy In
terview i'm Newark.
MINISTER is VISITOR
Former Vice-Chancellor Lee
lures Caller on Starting
All the Trouble.

A stenographic report OF an interview
between former Vice-Chancellor Mer-
r,tteLane of New Jersey and the Rev,
Clarence Hill Frank of Stamford. Conn.,.
in which each accused the other of
insincerity and prevaricauon was. given
out for publication yesterday following
n meeting between the two men at Mr..
Lanes Office in Newark.
The name of the former Vice-Chan-
eellor has appeared in newspapers dur
ing the last week in connection with tho
fact that last April, three months after
Mr.. Lane married Mrs. Geraldine Gar
rison Car in New, Jersey, man giving
the name Of Joseph Lane married Miss
Grace Hercht at Stamford. the Rev. Mr..
Frank officiating.
Mr.. Frank called upon Merritt Lane
in Newark yesterday in order to satisfy
his mind upon the point of whether or
not he had ever met him before. They
we're together for twenty minutes in
the chambers of the Chancery Court
and after MIR. Frank mad gone Mr.. Lane
issued for publication report of their
conversation, which had been made by
his stenogra pher. 1t came as con-
siderable surprise to newspaper re-
porters because UP to yesterday his only
discussion of the accounts printed about
him has been in two brief statements
declaring in effect that he had nothing
to say.
wouldn't Shake Hands.
BY Mr.. Franklin. Lane7
BY Mr.. Lane-Yes.
Mr.. Frank want to shake hands
with you
Mr.. Lane-I won't shake hands with
you. ! am Obliged to see you because
the newspapers, IL l didn't see you.
would spread the report that was
afraid to see you. l will not talk with
you. l will not talk to you.
Mr.. Frank-Have you anything to
sayf
Mr.. Lane-I consider you a notoriety
seeking emissary of some one whom i
do not know.
Mr.. Frank-Do you want to say that
to me here or out in the street?
Mr.. Lane-On the street? / say 1t to
you now here.
<skAs -oCSduSo yOu nave luc du-
vantage?
Mr.. Lane-Because I have the ad-
vantage? / didn't invite you to come
A man who goes around in your State
as you have done. and deliberately cir
culates a scandal without being certain
Of Identification cannot consider himself
a Christian
Mr.. Frank-T am.
Mr.. Lane-You can't be from the
fact. assuming. for instance. that you
are absolutely sincere in everything that
you do. What have you accomplished
You have brought injury to hundreds OF
people, at least ten or twenty. who are
absolutely Innocent. and you haven't
accomplished any good for single
soul
Denies Starting Trouble.
Mr.. Frank--Did start any of this?
Mr.. Lane-Whom did you start IL for
Mr.. Frank didn't start It.
Mr.. Lane-Who came to me and asked
me to do anything?
Mr.. Frank-Who married you in 1912
Mr.. Lane-Who came to you?
Mr.. Frank--You did.
Mr.. Lane-I did? 1 came to you?
Mr.. Frank-Yes, sir.
Mr.. Lane-You are an Internal liar
/ came to you and asked you to dc
something?
Mr.. Frank-what does a man come
FOR when he comes and asks me tc
marry him?
Mr.. Lane-You are an equivocator
Who came to you and asked you to start
this story2
Mr.. Frank-That is my business.
Mr.. Lane-You are the greatest
equivocator who assumes to wear the
cloth that / have ever come in contact
with. You know full well what / am re
ferring to. Who came to you and asked
you to connect my name in this?
didn't start this story. 1 am not physic
ally able. can't dc y You are n ~
office. Under the circumstances thai
would warrant me in throwing you GU
u that door II 1 were physically able t.
do H.
Mr.. Frank am here. Mr.. Lane, &c
talk with you as / would talk to any
man that needed
Mr.. Lane-If you had any suspicion
at all, or any idea. that l was or wa
not the individual whom you married
you ought to have come here to see m
first before you started to spread storie
over the country. Did you make thu
statement that / looked at you as yol
had never been looked at before by an!
one?
Mr.. Frank-Not exactly in thos'
words. The meaning
Question of Recognition.
Mr.. Lane-Then you meant to impress
upon the public that although you dl'
not recognize me recognized you?
Mr.. Frank-That may be the inter
probation put upon 1t by you. am no
responsible for the Interpretation pu
upon It. stated only the actu7' fact,
Mr.. Lane-You have already don
that behind my back. You can do
again and reiterate 1t to my face.
Mr.. Frank would have had per
sonal conversation with you but yo'
are not q man
Mr.. Lane-You are?
Mr.. Frank-You are not man TO tall
70. Good-by.
Mr. Lane-Good day.
Mr.. Frank-It is a good day.
The minister walked out.
After the talk in Mr.. Lanes o1!c
Mr.. Frank insisted that Mr.. Lane ha'
not denied being married in Stamford
nut had denied only that he had asEe
Mr.. Frank to marry him.
As last word Of the day, and sup
plementing the long transcript given out
Mr.. Lane added this:
1T becomes harder than ever to re
main silent, but ] can answer no ques
lions now. When / do speak II wi
De formal statement and not in piece
meal