Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1919-10-02
Believes Aliens Largely Re.
SponsibIe for Steel Strike,
He Tells Senators.
WOULD NOT EMPLOY ANY
THOUGHT TO BE DISL0YAC
Declares That It Was Impossible to
Secure Necessary Labor With.
out Importing It.

prevent the unionizing Of it's men
were denied today by Elbert H. Gary.
chairman Of the corporations board,
when he resumed his testimony be.
FORE the Senate committee fnvesti. +,
eating the steel strike.
Was the question of employfne
forosSners, who possibly had feelings
against this country. decided by the
boardf' asked Chairman Kenyon.
No.. said the witness. Tho ques-
ton was never raised"
Holds Foreigners at Fault.
But you think foreigners are re-
sponsible largely for precipitatine
this striker
Yes; but II we had known therv
vas . substantial, number Of the kind
o! foreigners who are resorting to
violence and who. believe. are under
the leadership Of outsiders, Ne
wouldn't have employed them.
senator Phipps, republican. Colo
11oo, asked II 1t was possible before
without employing foreignera. and
ing;
VINO we believed disloyal to thts
~
factories" -ss.
Necessary to Import Labor.
Senator Mcclellan. democrat. Ten.
nessee. asked II the corporation, b.
fore the war. had imported foreigup
ers under contract. fMr. Gary said it
had not but that before the contract
labor law became effective 1T Wase
possible, but not probable that for.
eigners had been imported. -
III you have no untonienA.~ Senator
Kenyon asked. who b going 70 ereak
for the men7 How can tnatx1duAlo
v1ssHrs aSs Snions S rss.s S.ss:ps sasar .isw sss
been frequently donev inl1x5dun3A or
Con1Mfftee8. OF NurlS5kQ0 4[u1d pre-
sent grievances to- 1nrpnneHs supsrin-
tendents. managers 0r even highse
Lets Mem Join Unions. IS
Let me understand your position.e
Senator Walsh. democrat, MassachNs,
Of men to join unions .Yoss let The
stay, in your plant when they 3otd. =
That's right" Judge Gary re- )
well now. what good is it - j
M.n sss to oesssss eslHas t1 nsn hss es
you refuse to. discuss anything with
their representativesfs - - -
''Is it right" Judge Gary count
cred. for 10 per cent Of men who may Z
belong to unions to, dictate conditioua :
for the other 30 per cent"
Senator Walsh continued. even &.
80 per cent Of the men were organ
lied you would not confer with their !
representatives"
VIII Protect Open shopa /
"I haven't said so." Judge Gary re-
torted- My position is the same.
shall not do anything to injure the
open shop8 s0
Lets settle that point right here"
Senator Walsh broke In. "Will you.
ganized labor today to help settle this
Il win not" Judge Gary returned
positively.
Engage in Colloquy.
Senator Walsh and Mr.. Gary en-
gagged in a spirited colloQuy over the
latter's refusal to see the labor lead
ers, the former stating that the strike
committee claims to represent z00,0 900
mot Of our men," Mr.. Gary sharply
interjected. They mean men of the
whole steel industry. They represent
our men,"
IF you were convinced that 50 per
cent of your men were organized and
them?' asked Senator Walsh.
NO." said Mr.. Gary. But think
I'm not called on to say what I'd do un-
der certain hypothetical circum-
stances I'm sorry il I differ with
you. or with others"
I'm sorry for hundreds Of thou
sands Of suffering families" Senator
Walsh retorted. &,
Mr.. Gary Protests. :.
Mr. Gary protested that his position
bad not been fairly explained and added,
with careful choice Of words:
81 put ourselves squarefy upon the issue
that this Is a question Of the open or
closed shop. Now as to what win bring
about the closed shop we must decide.
time to time, depending upon the facts
Now at this particular time
there are many things to take into con-
sideration.
'sYou speak about the public. I win
agree with anything and everything you
say regarding that. The public interest
% the first and highest consideration.
no matter how it may effect you or me.
:aking into consideration ali the facts
md circumstances. the union leaders or
somebody acting for a comparatively
mail minority OF foreigners, have
brought about sSn. this his strike: xhich is no
to secure control Of the inter-
,sts of the largo majority, Including not
,nly the employers. but the employee"
That's what you say: they say they
us there any reason
vhy vve should not leave that To ay$ifra.