Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1919-02-22
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ter which was largely responsible for
the present investigation, because he
was considered too disreputable,
having been indicted for saying things
that Senator Johnson has since said in
the senate
In long discussion with Senator
Walcott of Delaware regarding his be-
lefs in respect to law, Reed declared
that the will Of the people would be
done, if not by peaceful means, then
by force.
Opposes Use of Force.
'TTnfortunately," he added, pro
found social changes usually have
been accompanied by the use of force,
but have never been able to see any
reason why they should not have been
accomplished otherwise"
The witness said, in his opinion, the
American government as at present
constituted never had been brought
to the real test as to whether it was
flexible enough to admit such great
"reforms" as those in Russia, and as
Serted that he favored the nationalist
ton of industry and land. He said
he did not think he had ever been
affiliated with any anarchistic move
ment and that he was very much
against the abolition of all govern
ment.
Wife on Stand.
With the witness complaining Bit
terly of unfair treatment and protest
ing that Americans advocating self
determination for Russia were treated
as traitors the senate investigating
committee today continued its exami-
nation of Louise Bryant, the American
woman writer who testified yester-
day that her husband, John Reed, was
employed by the Bolsheviki.
During the hearing Chairman Over
man said the committee might sus-
pend its sittings for two weeks be-
cause of the press of business incident
to adjournment of congress-. This
came out when Miss Bryant demanded
to know why certain witnesses had
been notified by telegraph not to ap-
pear
"Oh," said the witness, adjourn
this hearing without hearing people
who know most about Russia so you
can pass a law first"
Miss Bryant complained that the
| committee called only one side,
well" said Mai. E.<Lowry Humes,
directing the examination, you come
! here as champion of the Bolshe-
Wiki"
Il am not their champion re-
| sponded the witness. Il just want to
| tell the truth"
| Would he Martyr.
Senator Sterling of South Dakota
| told the witness 1t appeared to him
she was trying to work herself W AZ
martyr for no cause whatsoever.
The witness said Lincoln Steffens
came to her from George Creel, cNair-
man of the committee on public in
| formation, shortly after the treaty OF
| Brest-Livotsk and asked her to cable
/ her husband and request him to re-
turn from Stockholm and persuade
Lenine and Trotzky that President
| Wilson was sincere
/ Discussing the documents given out
! by the committee on pubic lntorina-
ton to prove that Lenine and Trot-
| zky were German agents she SAID
| Colonel Raymond Robins of the
American Red Cross had told her
| they were forged. Naturalization OF
women again was brought up, the
witness insisting the soviet govern
| ment never had promulgated SUCH an
| order. why, the women do every
thing in Russia" she said. There IS
no child labor and all women nave q
place in unions equal with men, a
woman can get up and make a speech
/ and nobody thinks anything of it..
/ Russia is a healthy place for suffra.
| gists.'
| Processes Ignorance.
do you believe in the Bolsheviki
| interfering in the affairs of the Unit
ed States and sending money over
here for that purpose?' asked MAJOR
| Iumes.
Il don't know that 1t has been
| DONE responded the witness. why
| don't YOU ask Nourteva, he knows.
The witness said Russian Bolshevist
! propagandists were responsible for
! the downfall of Germany and the
| overthrow of the kaiser.
"Oh, thought Germany was licked
on the western 'front.'" remarked
Senator Wolcott.
/ partly" replied the witness. but
a military defeat doesn't necessarily
mean change of government.
| Miss Bryant said that all newspaper
correspondents who came out Of RUS
! STA and tried to tell the truth were
inundated and their reputation In
| jured.
Questioned about terrorism. she
said Peters, the red executioneer OF
the soviets, told her that he believed
only in killing TRAITORS within his
own ranks and added that refers
wasn't real butcher.
Miss Bryant, responding to other
questions. said she knew the peheIs
of the anarchists anu the !. W.
were similar in regard to govern
mcnts.