The Washington times., 1919-10-02
GARY AGAIN SPURNS
STRIKE ARBITRATION

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well as the employees" Gary replied
deliberately.
That's what you say" Walsh re-
piled
Il want 10 know if you wiwI meet
aniOn leaders under any circum-
stances. YES or no." Walsh insisted.
'T don't propose to answer yes or
no." Gary retorted.
Differ on Issue.
I'm sorry to press you. but that's
the issue" Walsh persisted.
The closed shop is the issue" Gary
returned. I want TO know If you ap-
pTeciate the danger"
Il certainly do, and I appreciate the
danger OF your refusing TO meet the
Workmen." Walsh fred back.
Gary said complaints OF employees
can be made through fOremen, super
intendents, heads of subsidiary COM
panies and corporation officials.
Not Opposed to Unions.
Gary said anybody has the right to
form q union"
You recognize the right OF men TO
organize and you have no objection
TO unions in your shop, but you re
fuse to recognize their officials and
confer with them" said Senator
Walsh. ''Of what good is THAR
Gary coUntered: IF 10 per cent can
organize, should they have the right
10 drive and influence the 80 per
cent to joins
II labor unions had control Of in
dugtry in this country il would not
only mean the closed shop, but re-
Strlcted output and increased cost Of
labor" Gary said.
Senator Kenyon said the English
labor situation was indicative Of
world movement"
Don't you think it would be we'll
to recognize that movement before
conditions are created in this country
which may compel its recognition" p"
asked Kenyon.
Would Encourage the Vicious
Gary said that amy encourage
ment given the present strike would
be encouragement given very viCi-
GUS element behind it." He -ex-
pressed the fear that the Senate
investigation Of the strike might
encourage" the strike and give a
vicious element" chance to air
views and propaganda not in ac-
cord with American institutions"
II there should now be a dis
claimer Of any intent to put into
force in your plant the closed shop,
would you be willing TO talk with
those people about the twelve
points?" asked Senator Jones.
"A statement Of that disclaimer
would not satisfy me-" said Judge
Gary. III they made any such dis
claimer, IL wouldn't be long before
they would be eliminated from labor
union work and others would be sub
stituted."
III we can eliminate the closed
shop, it seems we ought not to be
Fery far apart" said Senator Jones.
At least, with the men whom you
call a small minority"
This Investigation might as well
end now unless we can reach no
common ground for the settlement OF
the strike" Senator Jones said. I
Urges Peace First. /
Let peace be preserved and then
let the employees determine for them
selves the kind Of working condi-
tions They want" Gary said.
Il have no personal feeling to-
ward Mr.. Gompers or any other
der Of union labCr." Gary added.
waving one hand toward -Gompers
ane The other to American Fedora /
tleu o. la Dor leaders seated near
him "afr GaEtEers knows that"
Gary -du aLts5 nc had declined 20 |
recognize EorEer. ''as The leader Of |
organizes 5f and E2d not answer |
-eG G. lettcr Loiapr-s had sGrr him. |
Pressed b. Senator Walsh ss ta hist
''unWillinEnc r0 arbirrsl-". Gerry sd /
mitted capital ''uzIe 1i-ta-r= -s vel I,
as labor" !
''Theh why not arUitsatr sGuh mis- 4
takes or differences G=EEd Walsh /.
THAT depends upon the cI7c-u i
stances" Gary replied.
He reiterated that he refused and /
would refuse to deal with GOmpers /
and his associates or consider under
any circumstances" any suggestion or
proposal OF compromise or arbitra-l
tiOn with them