Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1919-09-07
PUBLICITY GIVEN
VIEWS Of WILSON
CONCERNING IRISH
Details Of Paris Conference
With Walsh and Dunno
Disclosed.
SOME SHARP EXCHANGES
REPORTED AT MEETING
President Declared Treaties Stood
in Way of Self-Determina-
ton Principle.
EXPRESSED GREAT REGRET
Said That Lot OF Things He Hoped
for He Did Not
Get.
SOME SHARP EXCHANGES
REPORTED AT MEETING
Said That Lot OF Things He Hoped
for He Did Not
Get.
tBy Associated Press.1

w -hS'ii.NI Wv socpl. Wv nile Drl-
vatc negotiations proceeded today be-
tween Senator'S favoring strong" or
mild" reservations to the German
peace treaty. the Foreign Relations
Committee received a report of a
spirited discussion On the Irish Iues-
ton at Paris last June between Presi-
dent Wilson and Frank s. Walsh and
! former Governor Dunno. of Illinois.
who sought a hearing before the peace
conference ri,n for the Irish Nationa,,ists.,
ne report was transmitted by the
recent committee hearings. 1t said
NJ. Wilson declined To use his nfu-
reschtaiives declaring thu. Mr.. Walsh
and Mr.. Dunno, by, in,emperste
Treaties in .xi;tence. the President
Was also reDorled as having declared.
determination for subject people. No
meeting Of the committee was held
Today, the memorandum made by Walsh
ally, and there Vas little discussian
Norris, Republican. Nebraska. making
The only address He called attention
81 Loas seeec 81 that Japsss ct
treaties with the allies were made 10
induce hex It. to enter =, the war The
were made two years later.
The small group of Republican sena-
tors adv s mild" rsservatiops
TO have agreed TO oppose the commit
tee reservations. particularly, that re.
| latinE to Article y. Of the league OF
| nations covenant.
Talk of Wilson and Walsh.
The Irish memorandum described az
notes on the conference between Presi-
made by te a eter Wasn and
atti,ade OF the President and Others
the, Irish question.
Mr.. Walsh the memorandum recitcd,
ireisnd and the Presdent was said d'I to
have replied
Now, Walsh. if it is your intention
put me IN bad. I am going TO say
when ] go back that we were we'll on
the way Of getting MIR. de Valera and
his associates over here; we were we'll
on the way when YOU made IL so ditii-
cult by your speeches IN ireland that
gentlemen who kicked over the apple
cart"
Efforts to Get Safe Conducts.
Mr.. Walsh. in reply. referred to dis
cusson in the British Parliament OF
Paris for canon de Valera and other
Irish nationalists. and the President
was represented as responding:
discuss that a was not SAID E1n IN the
British House OF Commons or House
or Lords, except TO say this: That
House was making an effort. and that
we thought we were we'll the way
of getting DE Valera and his associates
over here. but the speeches OF you
gentlemen gave such ohenSe that the
whole thing had to be Abandoned"
The President the mcmora ndum de
clared, said he had not discussed with
Lloyd George the question of aiding
the De Valera mission. and MIR. Walsh
asked the President TO give his aid
The President. according to the docu-
ment. replied:
There is no use of discussing that:
don't know. what the British gov
eminent would say. and / have said
all can say on the subject"
Declared Dealings OmcinI.
u want you gentlemen to under
stand that our position is this: That
We are dealing officially with these
governments. You would not want us
to make representations or engage in
p" ""n~t that might involve the send
ing of troops into Europe. and know
that our people would not want that
"..t -.l saying 20 you is that
stances could we have at any time
since have been here do anything
in this matter OF an official nature
hut ! want to say TO YOU that have
her cause. know I speak for the
others when I say that all we could
10 unoiiciaiiy we nave been doing
and will do.
REGARDING the Presidents efforts to
translate his announced principle OF
self-determination Of peoples into tho
peace treaty. Mr.. Walsh. according to
the memorandum. quoted from tho
Presidents addresses. saving millions
Of people relied on them. In reply
the President said, the statement CON
Times:
You have touched on the great
meta phvsicaI tra~edv of today MY
words have raised hope In the hearts
OF millions Of pcorlr. 1T is my wish
that they have that: but could YOU
imagine that YOU could revolutionize
the world at once: could YOU ina Cinc
that those people could como into that
at once?"
Mr.. Walsh replied:
~ can imagine them. II any ono de-
MED tt. struggling to como into il at
once. " 1t were denied in the place
where thew expected they were to have
II come and to have 1t settled definitely
once and for all"
Self-Dctcrmination Explained.
when gave utterance to those
words" was the Presidents rcpu,cd
reply. 81 said them withou; the knowI-
edge that nationalities existed. which
are coming to us day after day. or
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