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The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
PIMLICO RESULTS.

FIRST RACELOne mile: Cock o. Ths
Rocst. ITO CwessIerl. Is.S. go. $50; Clara
b.ya. liz (sandel. So. 20; Gain he Csuse,
II5 CRodrrlezl. go. Time. l:ss BsrdosA. Rel
eian Queen. SpotlessL Rockaree. Ffrst Council
also ran.
SECOND RACB-Mile and onesiIteenth
Prrnes, lcs Coomisl. 2.so go. $50; Night
stick. Ill Uudwig). 800. 20; Belario. 100
u.uxl, go Time. / "a s. Cousin o. Mine.
Progressive. Dancing Carnival Perigourdine also
ran.
THIRD RACE-Two miles: Rurica. III
CBnsh). eoo, go, 10: PastOra, 80 uandryl,
IS 60 q 60: Crest Hell, lSs (Byersl. Loo. Time.
sI5 Jaybi1i Melos Quel Bonheur. AlgHpth.
Northwood New Haven also ran.
FOURTH RACE-Two miles and one-dusr-
ter: Exterminstor. Iel tKummerl, 400, out,
ont: Royce Roofs 100 tAmtrnSel. out, out
wcodtrap. g (McCrannl. ont. Time, tI2 Only
three starters.
FIFTH RACE-one mile: Tipg,ty Witchet.
lp CSande). no. $50. out; Siprery Elm. s
(CalIahsnN. 30. out: Leochares. lis tOBnen''
out, Time I:S5 Is Or. johnson Also ran.
SIXTH RACE-One mile: FHisan Dore. lno
CH.miltoul. $50. SEQ. $40; St. Allan. Ios IRod-
risuez). go. 80; kinnoul. lo7 tAmbrosel. 2So
Time, l;s6 IS Ny Boots. Glenlight, Smart
Guy, Siren Maid also ran
SEVENTH RACE-Mile and oDehah: Pre-
mantle. IS tCalahanl. l2to teo 2o; John ].
Day, liz CButweIn. 33, 80; Melsncho,ia. fs
CEnsorl. go Time. 2:sS. Rockport, lndisc-ee'
also ran.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
STATE COLLEGE
HOLDS DRILL
FOR G.. u. TEAM

Maryland State eleven held its last
practice yesterday before its game
with Catholic University Saturday
at the Central Stadium. All the reg
ulars were out for this scrimmage
practice which lasted over an hour
and Coach Byrd was satisfied with
the work of the team and expects
his ven TO win this contest. This
afternoon the College Park team
will be put through a signal drill to
keep the players on their toes for
this annual game between these two
institutions.
Coach Tracy had the Catholic Uni
versity varsity team out working
hard yesterday for this game with
the College Park eleven. The Brook
landers scrimmaged for more than an
hour and then were driven through
a signal drill on some new plays that
they expect TO use against State
This was the final scrimmage before
the game as today the eleven will be
given a short signal drill and then
excused TO rest for the contest on
Saturday.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
LYNCH NAMED
ON COMMITTEE
OF S. A. A. MEN

Baltimore. Nov. 13.-Pres sident
Latrobe Cogswell announces ap-
pointments of the following COM
mittees to carry on the activities
Of the South Atlantic Association
for the ensuing year:
Finance Committee-George J.
Turner. chairman: DR.. William
Burdick and Col. Washington
Legislation Communicated. WASH
ingtOn Bowie, jr.. chairman; ]. Ed
ward Tyler and Joseph Townsend
England.
Cross Country Committee-Dan-
iel h Younger, chairman; A. Ed
win Schmidt and NJ. J. Lynch.
Sadtler. chairman: John c. Doyle
and Clarence c. Steer.
Basketball Committee-Willia
s. Pitman. chairman: Marvin II.
Merkle and Louis Elphinstone.
Boxing Committee-William j.
Leimkuhler. chairman: Samuel H.
Tinker and Charles ]. Linke.
Gymnastic Committee-Frank ].
Kadan. chairman: c. c. Beurlein
and John Lorrett.
Wrestling Committee-Marvin II.
Marklc. chairman; John c. Doyle
and Daniel Miller.
Membership Committee-Charles
J. Linke. chairman; Frank A. Han
COc,; and A. G. Schmidt.
Track and Field Committee-John
l.. Clark. chairman; F. A. Han
cock. c. J. Linke, J. G. Doyle. NJ.
H. Markle. d. X. Younger. F. J.
Kadan. W. T. .irkuhler. f.. r.
Bossum and II. Sadtler.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
BOWIE TRACK OPENS T0DAo0k FOR UPsEs In FOOTBALL SATURDAY
RoR MARTINS owN SToRY.
-v>vTH a ptkCA ~ "

l got over in September.
didn't know whether l would ever
get back or not. First night out
on the boat l had row with an
English sergeant. And that was
the last fight | had until after the
armIstice was signed. We landed
at Liverpool and from there went
to lie Havre. From there we went
to Mantz. LeMans was the last
camp to the front and we lived in
pup tents there couple Of weeks
expecting any minute orders to
move. Then the armisticc was
signed
After the armistice there was moth
ing but drilling. l didn't like it any
, oetter than the other fellows. We
wanted to fight when we got over
'here and the drilling didn't soothe
our disappointed feelings a bit. / got
SO tired OF it | told Y. NJ. c. A.
secretary ] could box a little. lie said
ne q try me out. / boxed four rounds
win Ralph Alexander who is from
waterloo, la. So they sent us out to
the various camps doing exhibition
boxing. That was better than drill
ing guess we boxed about two
dozen exhibition bouts and then had
hght in earnest in the champion
snip bouts. ! won by a Knockout in
the first round. But Burns wouldn't
hght. By beating Leo Cross / was
champion of lie Mans. and was sent
10 Paris for the tournament. Alexan-
DER runner-up. went along. too, and
We fought again. | won. In Paris l
knocked out Marchandt in "a rounds.
Sergt. Ray Smith. who was wounded,
won the CroiX de Guerre and was
decorated by Petain, fought a draw
with me. But for the "bys" l would
nave had to fight a lot more than !
did but | was lucky.
Fay Kaiser. of Cumberland, Nd,
won his way to the finale and we
fought at the Cirque de Paris. Ten
thousand crommed the place. Jack
Carey was referee. won the fight
and was very happy. 1t was a
gruelling affair. Gen. Pershing saw
1t. He made a speech boosting the
game. ! felt that was improving
right along and was getting faster
on my feet. l began to take a real
interest in the game and wondered
If / couldn't get somewhere
Well they took the winners on a
tour through the occupied sections
of Germany
Eight French fighters were taken,
too. The trip was financed by the
Y. NJ. c. a. Jimmy Bronson. now
my manager. was referee. Ben
Steinel, of Milwaukee. was match
maker. Spike Webb was trainer
Maj. McDermott was in general
charge.
We exhibited at Newied. Coblenz
Esch. Montahaur. Neuhaur, Trier
fthe first place to fly the American
flag.)
1t was at Neuhaur that Leo Pat
terson. lightweight champ. bathed
in the former Kaiser's tub.
The Germans were interested in
boxing but none of them waited a
match. Personally any one Of us
would have been glad 10 take a
Boche on.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
MINOR LEAGUES
SALARIES HAVE
BEEN INCREASED

Springfield. Mass. Nov. Kansas
City was selected as next years meet
ing place by the National Association
of Minor Baseball Leagues. in con-
vention here today.
The proposal of David Fultz. presi-
dent of the International League. to
limit the liens on league territories 70
unpaid salaries and debts due from
one club to another was adopted
A new salary scale. with increases
of from $4OO to s1,COO. sets the fol-
lowing maximum: Glass A. $500:
class r. s215O: class c. 5000; class
d. Sl,6Cu.
Following adjournment of the ex-
ecutive session, the National Board OF
Arbitration convened to settle the
ownership OF Player Jensen. claimed
by Springfield of the Eastern League
and Buffalo of the International
League.
E. w. Dickerson, sport editor of the
Grand Rapids Herald. and A. r.
Tierney, Chicago. were named men,
bers of the Board of Arbitration.
A committee of seven was appointed
to confer with major league officials
on the resumption of the draft and a
general peace treaty" to take the
place of the war edict of last spring.
1t is considered as a virtual sur
render.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
CARRY SCOTS
THIRD MAJOR
Ridicules the Possibilities Of
A Baseball War as
Result of Quarrels.

New Yok. Nov. l3.-"Talk of a
third major league or a new base
ball war Is nonsensical." said Garry
Hermann, chairman of the Ma
tional Commission. here yesterday.
Garry still is marking time. wait
ing for Ban johnson TO get here.
so that a meeting of the National
Commission may be held.
II can think OF nothing more silly
than even to discuss the formation
of a third major league" continued
Hermann. Most of the men who
have moray invested in baseball
can recall events OF four and five
years ago when We had the Fed-
eral League to contend with. We
had enough OF a third major league
then to last us for a long time.
Hermann yesterday made a fresh
plea for peace in baseball. We
had such a fine season in 1919 that
| had hopes we would get through
this winter without some of the old
time rumpuses, and then this
American League affair came up.
1t seems time to give little
thought to the good of the game.
Stories of starting a third major
league will not do the game any
good. l certainly would like to see
things cleared up.
Hermann yesterday sent john
sor another telegram asking him
to advise him Immediately when
he expected to leave Chicago. Ban
has a sore foot, a malady which is
arousing much mirth at the Yankee
offices. There it was suggested
that Bans foot has become sore
from being in a frigid condition so
long.
Garry had not received any an
swer from Johnson up to last night.
but the Cinciunatian says he will
stay here II there is any chance of
the American League president
joining him. as he thinks now is
the time to clear up the baseball
atmosphere.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
HILLTOP PREPS
IN BIG GAME
WITH A. AND N.

MI arrangements were completed
yesterday for the annual battle between
the Georgetown Prcps and Army and
Navy Preps at the Hilltop campus on
Saturday at 2:30 p. M. The George
town Preps have been working hard
all this week in preparation for this
contest with the Army and Navy
PTeps This is the Preps' big game of
the year and they are anxious to
come out on the long end of the score.
Coach Lyman has been teaching the
PreDs some new plays for this game
which he thinks will fool the visitors,
and Hyman has not neglected to build
up his offense while he has been
working with the players.
Army and Navy has been working
under the eye of Coach Newberi-y.
who put|thn players through a scrim-
mage yesterday for more than an
hour. after which the team was rim
through "A signal drill for more than
half an hour. The Army team has a
strong rush line. with a fast back
field. which will make lots of trouble
for the G. u. Props.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
WILDE HELPS IN
ENLIGHTENING
RULE COMMITTEE

New York. Nov. 13.-Jimmy Wilde,
accompanied by his managers, paid a
visit to the HEADQUARTERS of the In
ternational Sporting Club yesterday
afternoon at time when the COM
mittee on rules was in session. The
committeeman We're deep in the midst
of the discussion of means of pre-
venting clinching and devising penal
ties therefor when the champion ap-
peared. When Wilde learned the sub
ject of discussion he at once proceed
ed to give demonstration of the va
rious methods of holding and clinch-
ing. with suggest tions for a remedial
rule.
Here is what Lynch continually
tried to do in our last bout in Lon
don" said the champion. as he pinned
an imaginary boxing glove between
his left biceps and side and then shot
his right glove up to an imaginary
chin.
But it didn't work" chuckled the
diminutive Welshman. "for 1 blocked
his right with my left. and he was
even worse off than ! was.
Moore, who never won round of
the entire bout with me. had a habit
of hitting with the palm of his hand
and running the glove up against my
nose. He cut my nose a bit with one
of his open-hand rubs, and this was
the only mark he made in the contest.
II l am not mistaken. the rules de-
clare that fair blow is one with the
knuckles of either hand delivered to
the front part of the head or body.
Therefore. blows delivered with the
open hand. or the kidney or rabbit
killer punches are foul to the last de-
gree and should be abolished by dras-
tic rules. No first-class boxer would
be guilty of using them, and those
boxers who do employ them should be
penaliZed to the limit"
The committeeman listened to the
champion attentively, and it IS not
unlikely his suggestion will bear fruit
in the new boxing rules.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
Apprentices to Drill.

The Naval Apprentice School will,
hold long signal drill today al
Fifth and L streets southeast. at &
o'clock sharp. The Apprentice,
would like to arrange a game for
this Sunday on the Recreation Field
at l o'clock: the Triangles, Roam
ers. Rufnecks. Seminoles. or any
other 140-pound team in the city.
They also would like to arrange a
game with the Marine Preps for the
saturday atter Thanksgiving. Phone
Lincoln 1924 or 643s. Address N
Hutchinson, 712 Virginia avenu.
southeast.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
HILLTOP TEAM
WORKS TODAY
ON TECH FIELD

The Georgetown football team Io't
yesterday morning for Atlanta, Ga.
" here it meets the Georgia Teen
eleven tomorrow afternoon. The
squad will be out on Ponce de Leon
Field for a short signal drill this af-
ternoon to timber up the muscles
after the long ride on the rattler.
1t H. more than likely that Tom
Gargan will start in the half-baciI
position in place of Jim Buckley
-Gargan has been coming very fast
since he Joined the squad. which was
a little late. hut he was in good oh =
steal condition ana Coach Exedine
has been using him as substitute in
some of the recent games played by
the Blue and Gray.
The HiIItoppers will start the fol-
lowing lineup against the Golden
'rOrnodocs Saturday; n. Sullivan. lie. :
T. Sullivan. It.: Dudack. lG.: Andcr-
SOn. c.: ComstOck. re-: O'Connell. rt.;
Kenyon. re-: MaIoney. OBJ: Gargan.
H.: Capt. McQuade. rh.; Leighty. fb.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
PAINTERS HAVE TWO
HARD GAMES AHEAD

Pittsburg. Pa. Nov. 13-The Uni
versity of Pittsburg Panthers have
three more games remaining on their
1913 schedule. and two of them loom
up as the toughest kind of battles.
Next Saturday the Western PennsyI-
vania champions will fight it out at
Franklin Field. Philadelphia, with the
University of Pennsylvania eleven.
coached by Bob FoIwen.
Reports from the Quaker City are
to the effect that a capacity crowd
viii view this struggle. which gives
promise OF being a titanic one. While
the Warnerites were winning the sec
ton title from Washington and Jeffer-
son last week, Penn was suffering its
second successive defeat. Dartmouth
winning out by one point.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
BOWIE ENTRIES.

FIRST RACE Fur nabden :-voAr -clds 80
and half furiUngs: ArTnistI'C. lb; MarS
West. u6: Colonel Lit. ll6 aEEsiar GLOW. lls;
Rack Home. ll2: Bsca7'l"'te. rs; POztei.',
Ils; Franc Tir-w. us; Colonci Murray, lf;
aPHIi,ivs IL: Sra Mine ll3 Anzac. Is,
b,iaIla-her. Il6: NJ NrrUni. 1l5. RrbidiuIn. L.;
DorO,hy's Pet. is As, slElhlr: y p.
Graspn. ll6. sChc0s & SDInmer entry. bN r'
rsy eTry.
sBNoND RACE ne PADS and Fsnu''
raIrse: for eyesr-oAis and W. nlies and
mares: six and half furlonEs: Ora 'nds. no.
I.Assie. lo5; NJ Bp1,S st oIhelis. 10. - %
halt las. lC7; Jyntee. 10. Cinderella, I''
renelope. q; Qmetude. 20. aMsrS"-. -
Passing Shower lG; Niols5 TP, p. sArtE-.'
eutrT.
THIRD RACE-T7,e Inaugural p1-se. e. Al
sgs~ seven 'Igrl'ngs: Franklin. les: Ssll'i
Danoer IL. l0j: HiEhlsrd Lad. rT Rs' o
keeu Jane, Ioc; aSslyestrl, uo; Charlie W.,
decker. lOe; PSSTal swain. rs; l~ls. lui.
CiBderrllA- g; NArmite. lo2; Penruse. No.
Turf Is: Ksliprlis, g: 81. Lidors. lr; To--E
Adam. Io6 Also eligible: AKAshnir. *
aHallenbeck entry.
FOURTH RACE-The CheSspeake rrI-ss: ~
Sye4I-O'ds: one mile: DG7immoDd. ls; Pas
to-al swain. IOi: B1lI~t Dancer IL. l0l This
tleion. le: Sun Dial IL. l0S: siestA- lcs Wa
Z"1e dmrl. Ini
FIFTH RACE-Csimins: S-ye1rOlds and ~.
Taggart. loa. hsShmIr. lne; BToom Peddler, m
POultBcy. ~; PibrOch. roe; Hauheck. 10
GrsDd~e. 10. 1SsaAtuT CnOw. Sc; Grcund Swell
TO. NWHrssW. III: King John. us; ICo~k O.
n" Mar. Is: NEdith Baun4an, Iol-
SIXTH RACE lHimiBg: s-year-FdS and VT,
Wa0t. on" aud q sixteenth miles: y. X BSsL
rs; PDultnsy, To-: Vigilsnte. loc; Dan. IL;
NNormcn Elde1. q: HHUdS's Rrth-r l0s
Touerr q the ses. lC: HSunny Xii. 10
SEN ENTH RACE-Claiming; 5ysar-olds and
upSard; one and one-siNteerth miles: Lucius
ll3: Galley Head, 100; Hope. los: FEiry Primo
loi: xFcIntAin Fay. lol Az. HsndfulL 10
Tit For Tat. llo; Stir Up lp: sHSrwood H.
l@; CsballO. l04: IComscho. lo Miss Bryn,
10; NGpoli. los; aRaby SiSsr. lo5. RAlly Con.
nell. lol: xSenator Broderick, lD4 Also eligible
bNoureddin. lH
sGrtfith and Brsnn entry: hHaymaker and
Hilman entry. IAppcentice allowance clEimeL
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14

Ever since the building of0hs.
racing plant at Bowie that sectio
OF the State has taken a new leasS>
on life. A period of thrift that
never before was known in that
section has enveloped the entire
countryside. and the most wonder
full changes have taken place. The
farmer now have market TO-
everything that he can grow in
the way OF foodstufis for man and
beast. so that his worry Of what
will become OF his products is at
an end.
superintendent Richard Pending
has been working for some time
with a number Of men getting the
plant in shape for the opening. AMI
now has everything at the best. An
of the buildings have underg one
some renovating, and the greatest
pains taken to look out for the
comfort of the followers OF the
sport. While the course itself will
probably be slow. owing TO the rains
of the past few days. yet an excel
lent days sport is assured from the
class of horses entered for the ysTi-
GUS contests
Secretary Joseph McLennan has
brought together seven most even
Iy-matched fields for the days sport.
the outstanding feature being the
Chesapeake Purse. a race for 5-yesr-
olds at a mile. -Four OF the s&en
contests for the day will be A y,
mile or over. and in each ev
well-known distance performer
will go to the post. This form o
the sport has long been populs
with the patrons Of the BOWEL
course. so that the management. in
compiling tine condition books for
their meeting. in their desire TO
cater strictly to the public. has ar
ranged a generous portion Of the
events over a distance Of ground
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
VIRGINIA HARRIERS
In BID FOR TITLE

Charlottesville. Va, Nov. 13.-
Virginia will enter n strong team
in the South Atlantic cross country
meet to he held at Lexington Sat
urday In the trYOuts here. W. A.
II. CAN'T. cross country star, fin
ished first out of eighteen con-
testants over a three and one-half
mile course, his time being 21.56.
Other men to go on the team of
eight which will represent Virginia
are Brand. A. r. Shands. Green. @.
X. Stands. Wilson, O'Meara and
ROhannOn
The meet will decide the winner
of the South Atlantic Intercol-
legiate Association cup for this
year. Among the colleges entering
teams are Washington and Lee,
North Carolina, Virginia, George
town and V. P l.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
A Chinese Puzzle.

n Chinese 1'uxEe.
One little strand of the knotted
tangle would be like this:
Syracuse beat Colgate. Colgate
beat Princeton. Princeton beat Yale.
But Washington and Jefferson beat
Syracuse. Pittsburg beat Washing
ton and Jefferson and Syracuse beat
Pittsburg.
Let Brown beat Dartmouth. then
the puddle will again be as clear as
mud. Brown beat Dartmouth. Yale
beat Brown. Princeton beat
Yale (?). West Virginia beat Prince
ton. Center College beat West VIr-
ginia.
All American Candidates.
II the dopesters don't pass out on
that job. their fate seems sure when
it comes to picking an all-American
backheld Among the few to be
considered are Rogers. West Vir-
Einia; Gillo. Colgate Harley. Ohio
State; Hastings. Pittsburg; Casey.
Harvard: Ackley. Syracuse: Robert
son. Dartmouth: Anderson. Colgate: /:
Trimble. Princeton; Kempton. Yale;
Erwig, Syracuse; Erickson. WASH
ington and Jefferson; BOyntOn, will
Jams. and just recently. Murphy.
Center College. and McQuade. of
Georgetown.
Picking three out of that crowd is
a job that needs hair weighing
scales of technique. brains. form
and everything else. Lots of the
scribes would be willing to see an
injunction this year against an all
American team. 1t has been a
strange season all around. But il
no way has it been more unusual
than in doping a Southern cham
pionship without figuring Georgia
Tech. The wind leaked out of the
Golden Tornado this season.
In the West the beaten tracks OF
before the war" are being followed
by Ohio State. So long as Harley
wears the uniform of the Columbus
University advance championship
awards can almost be made to Ohio.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
DONALD PARSON IS
BEATEN AT GOLF

Pinehurst. n. c.. Nov. l3-DonaIu
Parson. of Chevy Chase. went down
to defeat at the hands of r.. c. Shan
non. I'd. the medallist in the first
match round of the Carolina tourna-
ment. played at Pinehurst today
Shannon won by to 2, and will
meet r. B. Paten, of San Jose, in
tomorrow's semi-finals.
H. G. Phillips. of Moore County, ana
T. A. Kelley. of Southern Pines. sur
vived in the other bracket. Kelley
came through by a 19-hole victory
over Franklin Gates. of Moore
county. who was a favorite for the
final honors end special.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
SOLDIERS HUNT
COLGATE SPIES
AT PRACTICES

Syracuse. y. Y. Nov. lS.-wlth stu
dents OF the Reserve Officers Train
ing Corps on guard duty with rifles
in their hands, TaJrollinE up and
down outside the Archbold Stadium
fence today. 10 prevent Colgate spies
from learning their formations. the
Syracuse University varsity football
eleven today went through its next 20
last hard workout before the annual
Colgate game next Saturday.
Hamilton. y. Y, Nov. 12.-The final
week OF practice for the Colgate foot
ball squad is marked by an earnest
ness and seriousness of efroft which
has not been seen in the play hitherto
this season. Every man has come u
realize the tremendous task appointed
for the team when il meets the Syral
cuse eleven on Saturday. Coach Ban
kart advanced the reporting time
from O'Clock TO 2:3o in order to get
the benefit OF an additional half hour
Of daylight play.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
PROF. BECKETT TO
ATTEND SESSION

c. E. Beckett will represent the
physical department of the local
Y. NJ. c. \. at the special convention
of physical education workers to be
held in Detroit. November 81 and 25.
a. part of the " International
Convention. Effort will be made to
develop close cooperation between
the Boy Scouts. the Red Cross. Com
munity Service. the Y. NJ. c. A. and
all other agencies interested in
physical development of American
men.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
NEWARK FRANCHISE
TO BE TRANSFERRED

Newark. n. j.. Nov. 13-Decision
to transfer the Newark Interna-
tional League baseball club fran
chise to some other city was an
nounced today by Ernest c. Land
graf, president of the club. who saIo
he had received permission from the
league to take such action. The
franchise, 1t was stated is being
sought by Scranton and Montreal
Lack of interest in the team and
difficulty in obtaining a better play
ing field were given as reasons for
making a change.
The Washington herald., 1919-11-14
LEONARD IS OFF
FOR SOFT MONEY

New York. Nov. 13.-Benny Leon
ard. lightweight champion. and his
manager. Billy Gibson. are off to the
oil fields of the West for a drive
after soft money" Leonard is booked
for three fights on a months trip
that will bring him close to $aO.o06.
In Tulsa. Okla. he is to go against
Jimmy Duffy in a l5-round decision
bout that will be his first decision
affair since winning his title. He also
has fights booked with Johnny Grif-
fiths and Harvey Thorpe