New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1919-11-16

general gloom. Senator Hitchcock
thinks that the treaty can be resub.
nitted by the President at the next
session of Congress, which begins De.
cember l; that then it will be free
from the c,oture rue. and the Admir-
istrttion senators win be at liberty
to maneuver and compromise. He
thinks that even if the treaty hangs
over in the Senate-under his idea
that the treaty can never be disposed
OF until it is ratified the President
can revive it by q message in De-
cember.
Against this, Senator Ledge contends
u at the cloturc rule provides for q
final disposition of the treaty, and that
Il the Democrats do not vote for the
Lodge ratification resolution the treaty
will be dead
Other Democratic leaders declared
that the program next week would be
TO have an adjournment. just before the
final test, in which some compromise
can be worked out. Mr.. Lodges reply
ID this is that it will be impossible to
break his lines, that a majority of the
Senate will continue 10 vote for the
Program as long as il may be neces-
sary. and against any modifying
changes
Vice-Presd IN, Marshall will rule. h.
announced to-day, that the vote to re.
joct the Lodge ratification resolution
Nf fl14 L
tAat afterward other ratification res
o utiol-s may be voted on, il major
lty of the Senate so desires as the
treaty will not be disposed Of until it
receives a two-thirds vote for it. or is
Killed by vote disposng of it, He
also ru ed that the cloture applies to
the treaty. and that nothing ese can
ne taken up until the treaty is finally
disposed of.
Can Override Marshall
A majority of the Senate can over
turn the Vice-President's ruling when
made. and the cloture rule of not more
than one hours total speaking for any
Senator will appl to parliamentary
discussion as we'll as to discussion Of
the treaty.
A majority of the Senate. moreover
can always do what it wants unless
prevented by fiibustering which is
g minated by the cloture rule. There
fore, the important thing tonight is
actually not what the Vice President
rules, but what majority of the
Senate wants to do. Hence the i'm
portance of Mr.. Lodges claim that his
lines VIII not break, and that it will be
impossib to ratify the treaty except
with his program Of rescrvati n.
The Republicans demonstrated TO-
were Joineo on every vote by Demo
Gratis their number varying. But al
ways important.
nave Reason to know" said Senator
Hitchcock, that the British and French
governments won be OBJ ICED DIV the
constitution in the French case and
because the treaty had already been
omitted to and approved by the
house OF Commons in the British cas-
TO submit these reservations ftr
approval to their parliaments. In the
present state of those two governments
am convinced this would be a very
delicate thing to do am convinced
taey could not, therefore. accent the
reservations. Knowing tina. thes, two
countries could not agree. what use
"ou there be Ill gratifying the
treaty?"
The confident belief of Mr. Lodge
fhat the treaty is dead, and. indeed.
me cohcensus OF opinion III the Senate
solidarity of the Republicans plus the
1act tnat II is sslmed President Will
On Will not accept the Lodge reserya-
lions.
Still Hope for Compromise
The real hope of the Administration
eaoefs Is that the Republican majority