Arizona republican., 1919-09-10
The Presidents Audiences

The Presidents Audiences
 The audiences which the president addresses are not very critical we suppose, so that he careful or even accurate in his statements part his audiences is composed of persons who require 10 conversion to them the presidents is sui Gcient. They would be for any kind of peace treaty lle president might suggest. Another part is posed Of persons who nothing good in the pres- dent and are susceptible of conversion Another. and the remaining part the greatest part, is made up of people who not greatly interested in the presidents theme; sufficiently weigh his statements and arguments. to consider whether they good bad; whether they reasonable or unreasonable.
 Thus the president is enabled to make statements which he would make in message which would invite deliberaton study For instance he would not in message address before deliberative eody suddenly discover he did at Sioux Falls Monday, that pro- -Germansm was the backbone of he opposition of the peace treaty.
 critical audience would think of several things. l would immediately recall that all elements which stand for inernatonalism in any degree, are stand ing with the president his conflict with the ate; it would recall that all these clements were against our participation the war with Germany: either because they were opposed to war or else be- cause at that time they were pro- German and wore racifism as a disguise. The president now has the support of every pacfst, every socialist and every rrlor bolshevis the land struggle with the senators.
 It would also be recalled that the very men in the senate who are now opposing the presidents demand for the ratification of unamended treaty the very who upheld the presidents hands at the outbreak of the and who made possible the adoption of vigorous policy against the voice and the votes of who blindly follow ihg the president We do not say and do not be- eve that they were then pro German but that they then wanting in that vigorous Americanism which so strongly exemplified in Senator Lodge and Senator Johnson.
 There is evidence that pro-Germanism enters the conflict all. the president attempts offer none-nohing but his unsupported statement-- thought of the moment-a straw. We have no suppose that Germany itself is con- cerned in the American conflict or that it can be seriously affected by the result of it. Germany crushed and confusion. So as Germany is con- cerned the peace treaty is already effect it will be enforced mercilessly if necessary by Great Britain, France and Italy. Germany would perhaps fare better from the active participation of the United States treaty. that extent, if it has any feeling all should ratify the treaty than not It might be better for Germany and would no doubt, be better for Europe that we enter the world arrangement if we enter it right, without the loss of any of power over ourselves of our freedom of movement it will be better for our selves than if powerful as we are we stand aloof and seemingly unsympathetc
 We speaking though of the presidents care lessness of statement his audiences and we may also speak of the damage thereby to his cause. the with which they are controverted controverted when the time cloud is thrown upon his whole appeal
 His put up shut up" demand was intended by him only for immediate consumption It was some thing that could keep It could be effective only until it exposed. It was a demand that if the opponents of the stands thought it was not good one, they produce better one That may have seemed to many his hearers at the moment to be thoroughly effective. Put up or shut up" has been cloture many dispute But in this case it has provoked reply from Poindexter which though having bearing on the qucs- ton than the presidents argument, is likely to be more effective. Mr. Poindexter raises the question whether need the covenant at all; whether America anything better than we now have. the Declaration of Independence and the American constitution.
 This, of course is irrelevant as much so as the presidents threadbare put up or shut up yet it must be much appealing to the kind of audiences that are meeting the president day by day
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