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| Government from Ours IL Il fiot7" asked
Senator Plttmah.
II could hardly say that" Mr.. Root
answered. II think the Prime Minister
probably went to Paris because Presi.
dent Wilson went. Treaties are ordi-
narily negotiated BY ofsat Britain
through Ambassadors or delegations. 1t
Is quite unusual for the Prime Minister
| to dip into such business.
"Of course theoretically they all rep
resent the King" added Mr.. Root. "The
theory Is that the King makes the treaty,
but II It involves any Parliamentary
power he goes to Parliament 10 get as
sent. Practically when Mr.. Lloyd George
went to Paris he did It because he APP
| pointed himself"
But the President under our Consti-
tuition does, not in any sense represent
the Senate In this conference" added
Senator Pittman.
| mo; he Is exercising a constitutional
authority. Just as the Senate is'' said
Mr. Root.
| Il think that Great Britain IL the
only constitutional Government where
there Is not provision for ratification -
said Senator Lodge, land that In every
constitutional Government there Ia some
form of ratification, by both houses or
| by one"
Wiser to Have Informed senate.
| II do not think 1t was legally incum-
bent upon the President to send the
treaty to the Committee on Foreign Re
lations or to the Senate" added Mr..
Root.
II understand you to say" said serf-
| ator Williams. chat 1t was probably a
mistake of the President not to keep in
touch with the Senate from time to
| timer
Il think 1t would have been Wiser
| to keep the Senate informed from time
to time. I think II would have made
| progress toward the solution of the
question, would have led to the ultimate
| making and ratification Of the saty
and been satisfactory to the people,
Mr.. Dawson opened with a general
| statement. Il brought to this country
a copy Of the proposed treaty" he began.
] That copy never has been read in
America by any man except myself and
| Mr.. Root SO far as 1 know. / was chair
man OF the Red Cross War Council
from May 10. 1917, to March /, this
year when the war council went out
| OF existence Part of my time was
spent In this country and part in Eu-
| rope. The American people gave US
| $400,oo0,000 and a bit more, and 1t was
| my business to administer that fund.
Channel to the Piave, and I think l was
more familiar perhaps with that situa-
alton than any other man.
| When / came home in November /
realized the distress in Europe and that
| 1t must increase as IL always does sitter
| war. conceived the idea Of CO.
originating the Red Cross organizations
or the world into an organization that
| might alleviate that distress. presented
/ no. low to H.
| was very much pleased with II. He said
he would like me to undertake IT. / told
him 1 did not see quite how l could
He wrote requesting that do It and
I finally consented.
Conferred with Peace Mission.
II proceeded to Europe, ana we SUB
mitted programme TO the International
| Red Cross. 1t was determined that Il
was not practicable. They saw the i'm
portance of 1t but said It was not prac-
| hcAble. ana we therefore went to Paris,
and talked with the representatives of
the Governments In Paris. I laid the plan
before them. conferred with the Presi-
dent, members of the American Peace
| Mission and peace missions Of the other
Governmenta
I'VE decided there was only one way
In which we could effect this and that
was to organize a League OF Red Cross
Societies modelled after the League OF
| Nations. The articles Of association were
based on the covenant of the League Of
Nations. The result was that there was
Incorporated in the covenant OF the
League OF Nations Article XIV. which
pledged epch member to tablisnmeut
and development OF the Red Cross. thus
Joined together We established the
League of Red Cross Societies.
While the League of Natiuas has no
control whatever over the League OF
Red Cross Societies. Its relations are in
| innate. We did not, for instance. want
to invite the Red Cross OF certain ma
| tions into the league unless we knew
| they were to be included in the League
| OF Nations.
$50 IL is as chairman OF the League of
Red Cross Societies that became
possessed OF a copy OF the treaty. But I
as member of the firm of J. p. Nor
gan & Co. had to do with the financial
situation of some OF the Allies.
Through our firm more than $4,000, ooo,-
600 was spent of foreign money In
America. II became obvious that all
Europe would be coming here to get
credits and that In order to give RELIEF to
Europe and in order to promote the
| trade of America the demands of
| Europe and the supplies on this side
must be considered and tbs industries
| Of America as we'll.
Therefore I say as an international
banker that the Importance OF knowledge
| In connection with this treaty IL very
great. The market must be handled 40
that credits win be forthcoming ana
| will be good.
TT was as chairman OF the League
of Red Cross societies asked Mr..
/ Lamont for copy OF the treaty and he
| said he would give me one I received
a copy after It was given to the Ger
| mans and a summary had been pub
lished.
when I arrived In America I was
told copies were not circulated here. /
| showed II to no one until i sent II 20
Mr.. Root I know that his opinion was
| sought In Paris I supposed, of course.
ne had a copy, and II was not until I
learned ne had not that sent It to
him. Nobody else ever has seen that
copy"
Banking Interest Secondary.
"You were not only Interested by rea-
son OF your connection with the Red
Cross but also by your position as an
international bankerT' asked Senator
Borah.
II had no question as TO my right to
a copy as chairman OF the Red Cross
Societies. That was the primary inter-
est that had in the matter"
But you did not undertake to divorces