New-York tribune., 1919-03-07
BOl : Wis mn
World Menace.
Says Rob ms
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when summing up his testimony.
There is menace in it, so much
greater. so much deeper than the peo-
pie with the peg cent brains
have seen and told, SO much worse than
any mere pro Germanism, that feel
we should use every power of civilian
tion to understand and combat il.
Government Based on Class
There has been an attempt made -
establish government based on class
hatred. 1t is economically impossible
and morally wrong. The leaders have
rad IN Russia a most extraordinary Ia
boratory for the carrying on Of this
vast experiment, and II has failed
'Lenine said to ne that it probably
would fail IN Russia, but he declared
they would keep the flame burning
there until the world bla1ed up. 1T
viii come first in Bulgaria and she
viii stop fighting. 1t viii spread Ard
when YOU hee a Soviet ruling in Berlin
remember that it was the little man
Who told You in the hremlin who
started the world contiagration' That
vas IN january, more than a year ago.
Tie challenged the world. you
fnlnN America is immune he told me-
But your government lacks integrity
I our representatives. are really elected
tor hidden economic reasons You
should pat SchwaD or Gary IN Con
iress 10 represent your iron interests
inseead of lawyers. We viii put
l the real producers, but not para
tcs, and Wc are going to challenge
tic world with "a producers republic
We may be overwhelmed. but not be
1ofe we have destroyed aN such gov.
errmonts.'
Class Terror j. Menace
THAT is the real menace. It is not
the ciimiuals. i-s decroef viii destroy
production and create class terror. 1t
u a challenge to the Christian civil
i1ation of the world. believe in
political democracy and m thc Chris
lnn conscience, and they are chal-
iengcd as they have never before been
and believe America is the only ma
tion that can meet the issue and save
them. $40 European nation has the
cohesion. the faith, to act to-day
hut moro force is a. failure against
dea, though would use force un-
hesitauty against violence. You can
hot put out ideas with bayoncts. The
only answer ~ "A demand for better
human life les better human life"
little earlier Colonel Robins ox-
pressed his views of the oarlor rcvolu-
tiouiste. His denial of some of the
charge against the Bolshcvists led SEN
afor Nelson TO remarks "I gather that
tou favor these idcas, but not their ap-
plieation."
"oh, no; am absolutely opposed to
the ldcae" Mr. Robins replied. II nm
eorry to see there Is so much feeling
mat when | refuse to dcnounce and
libel some of these people I am nc
cused of Bolshcvism. You have had
some people here that | believe so SYM
pathize. In my opinion there are
wheels going round IN their heads
Hoped to Prevent Intervention
when came out Of Russia [ hoped
20 prevent intervention. | did not feel
mat any statement should be made.
The German menace was nearest and
there should be no discussion of this
question till the war ended This is
the first statement | have made"
There is q good deal Of Bolshevist
propaganda in America" said Senator
overman. What would be your plan
"If this committee will make re-
port setting forth just what Bolshe-
Yism Is, am sure that the vast ma
lority Of American minds would repu-
diate it utterly. If this is followed bv
Intelligent legislation to correct what
IS wrong in our civilization it would
wipe out the breeding spots of unrest.
The ]. ". W., for Instance, and such
Things, always spring from some eco
nonic wrong. Take away the three
iears Of the workers, the fear Of un-
employment, OF disaster, and of old
age and premature death, then you Will
nave Tor him land that IS worth liv-
lng IN and that he Will know and feel
ls worth fighting for"
Would Use Publicity Method
Would you work chiefly with laws
'i repression or Of publicity?" the
Senator asked.
With publicity mostly. Laws
fgalnst the red flag wouldn't work"
ouIG YOU not forbid the use of the
rcd Nag whom it is a symbol of a de-
re- 10 overthrow tno government ."
would not attack II that way. But
very man who is advocating over
t1rowing the government | would ar
rest, indlct, try and convict"
L. S. Must Beat German Entry
Mr.. Robins's plan for Russia was for
economic cooperation to forestall the
German economic invasion of the coun-
try which he declared inevitable if
America kept out. either Germany
Will dominate or we will" he said
Il agree with the President that the
nest cure for Bolshevism is food" he
declared. 81 believe that il we send
God and intelligent commissions to
help In the reorganization of Russia's
economic structure normal life would
begin and that comfort and personal
isplration would destroy the formula of
Bolshevism."
Bolsheyid Want L. S. Cooperation
Colonel Robins told Of the constant
ofers Of cooperation with Americas or
Aiiied forces which were made bv the
Solsheviki. He did not use The verd
hiunders, but he told Or many cues
here subsequent devc opmems have
justified mis- efforts to have such offers
accepted.
zone Of these was an offer by the
soyicts 10 turn over = the American
Hallway Commission fall control OF
the trans-Siberian railway and To make
any man they might name assistant
commissioner in charge. The copdi-
IONS were that the resources should
oe divided, half TO be used In getting
GOD from Siberia into Russia and the
otner half to get the artillery and sup
iiies back from the Russian front,
Wnich Trotzky assured him might be
Seized at any time by the Germans.
urged this" he said "Others op-
posed u. | wanted to get demonstra-
ION whether we could work with the
Soviets. We would have had something
oeI'nlte TO go on and would have got
OUT OF the fog Of conjecture."
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