Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1919-01-21
Accepted Fourteen Points
Confident We Were Dealing
With Gentlemen Says
0usted Secretary,
DECLARES GERMANY
MUST HAVE COLONIES
Says Germany Is Bound to Be
Republic With Extremely
Liberalized Government t
Leading to Socialism,
BY Arno Dosch- -Ilcurot.
Copyright, 1919, by the Press Publish


(The New York WORLDLY
Especial Gable Dispatch to World and
Albuquerque Journal)
Berlin Jan. 20 (via Copenhagen -
Former Secretary DR.. Alfred Zimmer-
man (who was dismissed from the
German foreign secretaryship upon
the discovery that he had instructed
the German minister at Mexico City,
Won Eckardt, TO arrange an alliance
between Mexico and Japan against
the United States) in an interview CIV
en- to me today, said that he expected
Germany to get fair treatment before
the peace which will be arranged by
the conference now beginning.
we accepted President Wilson's S
fourteen points, and. the manner in
which it was done amounted practical
ly to u contract between Germany and
the entente, and as we were confident
that we were dealing with gentlemen.
We feel that it will be lived up to.
otherwise it were a breach of con
tract, and the entente would be both
legally and morally wrong. 1t would
be a betrayal, and that we do not eX-
pect of former enemies.
Herr Zimmerman said he was con-
WINGED that the only way to secure
peace was to Interpret President Will
spirit in which they were written. He
reGasds he tyssl0 ~ a,alans as
feasible, and frankly says that it
alone can make peace for Germany
He wants to see Germany have an
equal position in the world family
with the other nations.
lie declares that Germany must
have her colonies back, it being a
question of having the same amount
of colonial possessions from which to
draw raw material rather than get
ting back the same ones.
Perhaps it will he inconvenient to
have the same colonies back just as
they were, but it can be arranged to
give us equal territory elsewhere"
Herr Zimmerman believes that
even the workmen who are having an
increased say in German affairs are
interested in the colonies as sources
of raw materials.
Asking, Not Forcing.
Evidently Herr Zimmerman believes
that Germany will not have much part
He said there must be executive pow
er to realize the league of nations,
and when | asked whether Germany
was content to see England and Amer
ica policing the seas, he replied that
Germany had no navy and reverted to
his earlier statement that Germany
is in the position now to ask but not
force Justice,
n gpiI ~ "a hppn
the blockade Germany would have
won the war eve would have won.
anyhow" he added, 'if America had
not interfered& ~
In Germany's position he said of
seas. He talked at length on the
league of nations idea, insisting upon
equal rights for ALL large or small
victorious or defeated His principal
point was that the new supreme
court of the nations must have the
right to decide everything. even points
of honor, otherwise an enduring peace
is impossible
Referring to the beginning of the
war, Herr zimmerman said he thinks
England did not want the war, saying
the same of course, of Germany-that
on Russia, which he accuses of trying
to exert her influence over Slav Aus
tria and the Balkans under the Pan
Slav movement.
IF Earl Grey had been as energetic
with Petrograd as we were with Vi
emma, | think the war would have
been prevented. Earl Grey. whom
am convinced did not want the war
first wanted to settle the affair before
the London conference, but later
yielded to our view to localize the af-
fair and try to settle it in Petrograd
and in Vienna, but too late. Had Earl
Grey been more firm with Petrograd,
where he had no less Influence than
we did in Vienna. perhaps the war
would have been spared"
He admitted an overbearing war
rarty in GERMANY once the war began
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