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Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
INTERCOLLEGIATE
GAMES SATURDAY

The schedule of important games Of
Saturday follows:
Illinois VS.. Iowa at Urbana.
Purdue vs.. Chicago at Chicago.
Northwestern VS.. Wisconsin at
Evanston.
Indiana VS.. Minnesota at Indian
apolis.
Michigan vs.. Michigan Aggies at
Ann Arbor.
Ohio State vs.. Kentucky State at
Columbus.
Notre Dame VS.. Nebraska at Lin
coin.
Oklahoma vs.. Texas at Dallas. Tex.
Drake VS.. Simpson at Des Moines.
Marquette VS.. Lawrence college at
Milwaukee.
Franklin vs.. Rose Poly. at Terre
Haute.
Butler VS.. DePauw at Greencastle.
Washington University VS.. Kansas
Aggies at St. Louis.
Arkansas VS.. Rolla school of mines
at Fayetteville.
Oberlin VS. Mt. Union at Oberlin.
Akron rs. Ohio Northern at Akron.
Western Reserve VS.. Wooster at
Cleveland.
Cincinnati VS.. Kenyon at Cincinnati.
Kansas VS.. Washburn at Topeka
Missouri We. Ames at Columbia.
South Dakota VS.. North Dakota at
Grand Forks.
Texas Christian vs.. Oklahoma A..
and NJ. at Fort Worth.
Knox vs. Beloit at Beloit.
Ohio Wesleyan VS.. Miami at Oxford.
Simpson We. Drake at Des Moines,
Grinnell VS.. Dubuque at Grinnell.
Monmouth vs.. Coe at Monmouth.
Creighton vs. Morningside at
Omaha
Wabash VS.. Western state normal
at Kalamazoo.
Pennsylvania VS.. Valparaiso at
Valpariso.
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Three College Games
Down State SATURDAY

Fargo. n. D., Oct. 17.-Three inter-
collegiate games will be played on
Fargo and Moorhead gridirons Satur-
day.
The North Dakota Aggies will meet
st. Thomas of ST., Paul on Dacotah
held at h North Dakota agricultural
college at 8 o'clock in the afternoon.
The game will be one of he biggest
Of the season for the Aggies.
Fargo college will play the Wah-
peton Science school eleven in the
Fargo college stadium at 1880 o'clock
in the afternoon. the game being
called early so as not to conflict with
the Aggie-St. Thomas contest. The
game originally was scheduled to be
played in Wahpeton.
The Valley City and Moorhead
normal school e~levens will clash on
Normal field in Moorhead. The game
will be the first for the Valley City
team since the war.
High Schools to Play.
The Fargo and Moorhead high
school elevens also will see action.
The Fargo high school team will go
to Wahpeton. The strength of the
Wahpeton team is not known in
Fargo, but the Midgets are consid-
cred the favorite.
The Moorhead high school eleven
will clash with its old rival, Barnes
Vile high. The game probably will
be played on the Concordia college
field.
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DULUTH.
DULUTH GRAIN.

Duluth, Mimi. Oct. 17.-Elevator
receipts of domestic grain: Wheat
213,SO0 bushels, last year GIG, 800;
barley 57,400 bushels, last yea 49,
500; rye $4,000 bushels, last year
118,400; flax 10000 bushels, last year
25,20O.
Shipments: Barley 4o,5oo.
900; barley 5000.
Duluth car inspection: Wheat Nos
l and 2 northern S.; No. 3 "a; other
spring TO; l and 2 durum Is; No. 8
durum 3; other durum 10; mixed "a;
all wheat 81, year ago 1.076; flax
13, year ago SO; mixed grain 3, year
ago 2; oats 5, year ago IL; y So,
year ago IS: barley IL, year ago 10,
Total all grains 176, year g 1929;
on track 1O1.
The market in haxseed pined
sharply in spot and the near future
today with demand from crushers to
cover contracts and light offerings.
Trading was in light volume. October
flax closed s 1-2 up; November 3 cents
up; December 2 cents up and May 8
cents up.
Rye closed 2 IA up; October 2 Ia
up; December 2 Ia up and May 2
cents up. Barley closed unchanged
to 2 cents up for spot.
Oats closed 3-8 cents UP for spot.
Closing:
wheat-No. / northern. $2.5o@
2.55; No. 2 northern, $2.45@ $50; No.
| 3 northern, $40 2.45; No. / amber
durum, 1924 1-2@2.25 1-2; No. 2
amber durum, 1921 1-2@2.22 1-2;
No. / mixed durum. $2.19 1-2@2.23;
No. 2 mixed durum, $2.16 1-2@2.20;
No. 1 durum, 1922 1-2@2.23 L.; No.
2durum. 1919 1-2@2.20 a1-2.
Linseed-On rack and to arrive,
$4.24@4.2S; October, 1920 asked;
November. $4.18 aksed; December,
oat-on track, Sc 1900 7-s: tc
arrive, sc 7-s@6s rs.
Rye-On track and to arrive
$1.35 Ia; October. 1913; December
$1.34 1-2; May, $1.41 ga bid.
Barley--On track. 95@1.27.
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COYOTE PACK
WILL ARRIVE
SATURDAY A. N.
South Dakota to Endeavol
to Wipe Out Defeat. by
Creighton.

stung by the defeat at the hands Of
Creighton university at Omaha last
Saturday, the University of South Da-
kota eleven showed off for Grand
Forks Thursday afternoon with a de-
termination to wipe out the defeat to
some extent by lacking the F~lickertail
hide to the Coyote den wall in the
game here, Saturday afternoon, ac-
cording to a special dispatch from
Fermillion, S. D., this morning.
A pack of twenty Coyotes are maxi
ing he trip and are expected to arrive
in Grand Forks Saturday morning.
Kelly. who played ar end position.
and Gates, who was a substitute half
in the Creighton game, were injured
and T not included in the squad
making the trip.
Ashby, a colored halfback who has
been showing up we'll on the Coyote
gridiron, will probably be started in
the game against the Flickertails.
Patidick. playing the other half, and
Herrig, fullback. with Duble handling
the quarterback position, the prob
able lineup of the Coyotes is doped
out. Manning and Hoy. linemen for
the visitors, are mussed up by minor
injuries but may De started in the
Saturday game.
Lineup Uncertain.
AS per usual and more so for the
game Saturday it is impossible to
dope out a very definite. line on the
Flickertails who start in the game
with South Dakota. With Coach
Davis having a husky reserve of good
! players, it is no use to dope out a
| probable lineup until the big chief
announces it himself.
The lineup will undoubtedly be
ci~i1a~ r. thn o1ova1 r1o~oa = opoi IN ~
st. Thomas last Saturday, but it is
suspected that Coach Davis is plot
ting a change or two Of the parts Of
his machine. Davis is a shrewd mas
ter on the gridiron and is developing
a fine reserve line of men and just
how many of these will be given a
taste of battle Saturday is uncertain
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
CONFERENCE
MEETING ON
ELIGIBILITY
Badgers May Contest Status
of Four Northwestern
Men.

Chicago. Oct. IA special meet
ing Of the faculty committee Of the
Western Intercollegiate conference as
ISOLATION has been called for tonight.
The object of the call is not stated.
Reports from Madison assert the
badgers wish to inquire the status of
sour Northwestern football players.
According to report the men con-
,erned are the Bernard twins, who
olay ends: ~Langenstein, guard. and
Miller, guard. They are members OF
the Great Lakes football team and
entered Northwestern when discharg-
ed from the navy The question
hinges on whether they have COM
,lied with the residence requirements
'or participation in football.
Conference rules require a years
residence for participation in athlet-
les. Players in service, however. were
allowed to return to their former COL
leges without this requirement. These
our players are new men at Evan
ton. knight, another Great Lakes
player, attended Northwestern before
entering the navy, He is not ques-
toned. ,.
Northwestern bases it's decision on
their eligibility on the fact this quar-
tanned three-quarters' residence OF
the same conditions as prevail! at
Chicago.
When these men entered North
western. they thought all service men
would be eligible. In June the con-
ference ruled players entering a col
'ege, and not former students. mus
fulfill the regular residence require.
ments. This was regarded as a blow
at the purple, which was reported tc
have secured almost the entire Great
Lakes team after Bachman was signed
IS coach following the resignation OF
Fred Murphy.
None of four men under discussion
we're On the first team at Great Lakes
* The loss of these four players would
seriously impair Northwestern's
chances against the Badgers tomor.
row, as they have been used regularly
in the practice. and of course would
emove that, much available materia,
from future games.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
MARKET NEWS
CHICAGO.
CRAM Ann PROVISIONS.

Chicago Oct. E.-NeW upturns IN
the value of corn resulted TO-DAY IRON
prospects Of diminishing receipts. IN
this connection, railroad orders TO
give wheat the preference III the
movement from the interior was con-
sidered q notable bullish factor as TO
corn. Besides, country offerings 70
arrive were not large. Opening
| prices. which ranged from h same
as yesterdays finish to IL cent
higher, with December $1.22 7-8 TO
1.23 Ia and May $1.22 to 1.22 If,
were followed by material gains al
around.
Oats hardened with corn. Seaboard
| bidding remained active. After OPEN
ing unchanged to 1-8 to Ia cent
higher, including December 70 10 TO
| II, the market scored a moderate
general advance.
Higher quotations on hogs and
grain lifted provisions. Lard was the
leader.
Bulls urged that with cotton neal
the highest price ever known n
with other commodities toward the
top no important decline was to pe
expected in grain at present. me
market closed unsettled, l to l l-2c
net higher, with December $l.24 d-S
to 1.24 Ia and May 1922 rs to 1.2S.
; JANUARY lard was in special De
mand. Packers were said to pc puy,
ing that delivery against deferred
shipment sales for export.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
NEW YORK.
STOCKS.

New York, Oct. .l7.-Many innc-
tive s~pecialties came forward on the
broader movement Of the first hour
on the stock exchange today. Chief
among these were Pullman, CalifOr-
MIA packing, Gulf states steel, Nation
aniline, Remington Typewriter and
Bosch Magnetic at gains of three to
eight points. Otherwise the market
followed its recent course, motors,
oils and equipments retaining leader
ship at advances of one to three
points. Steels were in demand for a
time but reacted moderately under
pressure. Shippings and American
wooden developed further strength at
noon. ti
Call loans opened at 10 per cent,
yesterdays ruling rate.
Stocks showed little trace at the
active opening of today's session OF
the depression which accompanied
yesterdays later dealings. Motors
and oils were 1 to 2 points higher,
also food shares, American wooden
and miscellaneous s%pecialties. Amer
lean ship and commerce. one Of yes
terday's strongest features, moved to
a new high record on its first trans
action of 5000 shares at "A 1-2 to as.
Rails, steels and tobaccos were irreg-
ular.
Trading became dull at midday but
leaders, excepting steels. showing lit
tie disposition to yield. Other minor
specialties were added to the list of
the morning and leather, tobacco,
chemical shares also improved, oils
and motors meanwhile extending
their gains.
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GRAND FORKS POTATOES.
LEGAL NoTICE
oRDER TO ExAM1NE AcCoUNTs

=
State of North Dakota, County Of
Grand Forks. SIS. In County Court.
E In the matter of the estate Of Even
Hansen Branvold, Deceased.
On reading and filing the petition Of
liver E. BranvoI. Administrator OF the
estate. Of Even Hansen Branvold, de-
ceased. representing among other things.
that he has fully administered said es-
tate. and praying that a time and place
be fixed fer examining M allowing the
account of his administration, and for
the assignment of the residue Of said
estate to heirs:
1t is ordered, that said account be
examined, and petition heard. by the
Judge of this Court on Tuesday the 4th
day of November, A. D.. 1919. at 10
O'Clock A. NJ, at Grand Forks in said
County.
And it further ordered. that notice
hereof be given to all persons interest,"
ed. by publishing a cop of this order
or a citation for four successive weeks
prior to said day of hearing. in the
Grand Forks Herald "a daily newspaper.
printed and published at Grand Asorks
in said County.
day Of October. A. ID. 1919.
BY the Court.
B i. K. Hassell ]
Judge OF County Count
g0ct a.1n.I7 and u
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
Owls And Eagles Won
In Ladies' League Play

The Owls and Eagles won straight
sets from their more timid feathered
teams defeating the Robbins and
Bluebirds in the bowling of the
Ladies' League Thursday afternoon.
Mrs. Frank She'll Of the Owls
rolled the high score of the afternoon
marking up 145 while Mrs. Fred Sib-
ell Of the Eagles held the high aver
age of 1923 for the three games played.
Results of play, Thursday:
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SOUTH ST. PAUL.
SOUTH 81. PAUL LIVESTOCK.

SOUTH ST. PAUL LIVESTOCK.
South St. Paul. Mimi, Oct. IL
Hog receipts $500; Csc higher; range
$3.50 @ SLABS; bulk $14 q pigs Sc
q $500. IA.
Cattle receipts $500; steady; fat
steers 1925 q $3.50; cows and heif-
ers Sc @ $1O.75; calves steady, SIS a
SIG; stockers and feeders steady, IS
q 1920.
Sheep receipts $500, steady; lambs
IS q SLABS; wethers $3.50 q $3.50:
ewe $1.50 q $3.50.
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17
CAPT. WILDE BOWLS
SEASON HIGH SCORE

Captain Wilde Of the Wilde Bowl
ers rolled high score for the season in
the set last night when the Rand
Bros. quint was defeated in three
straight games in a set marked by
the low scores made. Wilde bowlcd
PAP.
The Bridgeman-Russel and Para
mount Cigar, teams play tonight
Last nights standings:
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Minneapolis Futures.

Minneapolis. Mimi, Oct. 17.-1m-
proved labor situation at the sea-
board. advance of Is to 25 ca4is 'in|
hogs, reports that the railroads are to|
give wheat movement preference over
other grains and firmness in the CASH
market gave orn a higher START
prices up 1 to 1 is cents and demand
increased as the market rallied. Adj
vance soon widened to 1 rs to q
cents over last close.
Oats futures advanced 1-2 to rs
with shorts the chief buyers. ADJ
vance Of 2 to 2 1-8 cents in rye was
largely in sympathy with eastern
markets. Barley was slow, but with
light offerings, futures gained ! 4.
cents. rt
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17

Latin derivatives first came into
vogue the day the Lord rebuked Adam
and Eve, making use of the word Gin
sin-u-ate." L
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HIDE AND FUR MARKET.
HIDES, Fu1s, PE1rs. rA11ow.

FURNISHED by The Redick Hide & Fur
Company
WOOL-No activity reported for over a
month and mills say prices will have
to recede before they buy: and large
storage dealers holding tight. It looks
like lower prices II any trading takes
X p1oco aHa-, $3.50 5HSf9E4HaBsitET
Grand Forks herald. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1916-1955, 1919-10-17

A man named c. Sprinkle has pur-
chased a farm near ST. John. The
man has a refreshing name for a dry
section.
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PRODUCE.

New York. Oct. 17.-Butter firm;
receipts 9,706 tubs: creamery higher
than extras 60 1-2 to 70; extra (92
score) 60; firsts 81 1-2 to GO: pack
ing stock, current make No. 2 As IL
to AS.
Eggs steady: receipts 1921 cases;
fresh gathered extras 81 to So; ditto
extra firsts "a to &c; ditto firsts 60
to 63.
Cheese firm receipts 5,272 boxes;
state whole milk flats, current make
specials 81 to 81 Sd; ditto average
run 80 1-2 to 80 ga: state whole milk
twins. current make specials 80 ID
Poultry alive easy; chickens %;
fowls 26 to 80; roosters 10; turkeys
IS to 80; dressed steady and I'M
changed. ~
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LIBERTY BONDS.

New York, Oct. 17.-Prices at 1880
a. m. today were 3 las, 10000;
first As, $500; second As, 1910; first
4 LES, $3.50; second. 4 las, $685.;
third 4 las, 1884,. fourth 4 LAS.
1852; Victory 3 3-4's, 1916; Victory
4 3-4's, 1910. '
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NEW YORK N

New York. Oct. 17.-Mercantile'
paper S q $3.50; sterling sixty day
bills $4.14; demand $4.15A;. cable
$4.16; francs demands $50; cables
$8.O6. Government bonds easy; rail-
road bonds irregular.
Time loans strong; sixty days, 80
DAYS and six months I bid. :"
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NEW work. METAL

- NEW IOFth NIEI3A1J.
New York, Oct. Hooper quiet:
e~lectrolytic spot and last quarter
% " small lots, second hand 22A a
%.
Iron steady and unchanged.
Anthony $z.55.
Metal Exchange quotes lead firm;
spot $3.50 bid; December $6.40S bid;
$3.50 asked. Spelter nrm: East st.
Louis spot $40 bid.
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CHICAGO.
H1cAG LIVESTOCK

Chicago, Oct. 17.-Hog receipts 15.-
900: mostly Csc higher: . sl4 "a
SIS; top $15.O5; heavy $14.5O q SIS;
medium, s14.5O q $15.05; light
$14.25 q SIS; light-light $3.50 q
f$14.60, heavy packing sows, smooth
$13.75 a $14.25; packing sows, rough
$13 q $13.75; pigs $13 a s14.o0.
Cattle receipts, 1000; firm; beef
steers, medium and heavy weight.
medium ui a and good, ;11ii.eo@@ 1915;
common. $s.25@11.oo: light weight,
good and choice, s14.5O@19.o0; COM
%Sn q n eattl @e1 heifers, ;s.a5 9 H. u.s. IS;
cows, $6.25@12.5O; anner and cut
tiers. $4,000 6.25; veal calves, $15.75
q 17.75; feeder steers, $500 1900;
stocker steers, $7.50@10.00: western
range steers, s7.75 1850; cows and
heifers, $5.75@12.00.
Sheep receipts 5000: strong; lambs.
STATS a 1875; lculls and common,
$500 1880; ewes, medium. good and
choice, $1,000 .75;. culls and COM
mon. $1,000 6.25; breeding, $3.50
1900.
CASH SALES.
Chicago, Oct. 17.-Corn: No. 2
mixed S1.37@ 1.as; No. 2 yellow $3.50
oats-No. 2 white. II 3-4@72 3-4;
No. 3 white 50 1-2@72.
Rye-No. 2, S1.38@1.3S ga.
Barley $1.15 Obj.
Timothy $500 11.25.
Clover, nominal.
Pork nominal.
Lard $2s.35@29.45.
Ribs $18. rs a 19, 90, M.H &s- -.
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ENTER CONTEST
NOW AND WIN
OVERLAND CAR
Now Best Time to Enter
All to Be Rewarded; Z
No Loosers.

Seldom il ever have Northern Min
nesota people had such an opportu-
nifty of winning q high-class touring
car as that now presented by The
Herald.
In addition to the ar, which is
grand prize, The Herald will give
$4OO In cash for district prizes and
award all non-prize winners 10 per
cent commission on all money that
they Send to The Herald during the
campaign.
n district prizes are given in or
der that an equal distribution of prize
money may be had throughout that
part OF Minnesota where The Herald
has a large circulation and is recog-
nlzed as the districts leading news
medium. .
The campaign. which is just open
ing. is free from the Objectionable
features that characterize some con
tests. There are no small, cheap
prizes and candidates will not be dis
appointed by receiving trinkets for
their work. Every worker will be re-
warded. Those who do not win the
auto or a district prize will receive
10 per INT on all money that they
turf in during the campaign.
Candidates are urged to commence
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Early workers have the least COM
petition and the best chance Of win.
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Look at the standings. You will
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CHICAGO PRopucE

Chicago, Oct. 17.-Butter, higher;
creamery soc 10 64kc.
Eggs receipts 4,075 cases un-
changed.
Poultry alive lower; springs 23kc;
fowls 1Sc a 26c. @
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POTATOES,

Chicago, Oct. 17.-Potatoes strong
err; arrivals, 46 cars; stronger; north
ern white, $2.25@2.35; western Rus
sets and Rurals, $2.70@2.75.
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PRODUCE.

Chicago, Oct. 174.-Butter higher;
receipts, 4,652 tubs; creamery extras,
Ga 1-2; firsts, $4,000 Ia; seconds, SO
@52; standards, l..
Cheese unchanged.
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Nomination Blank,
Grand Forks Herald,
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COURT sEAL)
sOct. 3-1O.17 and "a
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1919-06-22
Winnie and ! looked at l9A
eac" other Long and thoV9htfVTt4

And if smiled it was not altogether
in triumph. but more at the thought
Of Toosey Attrill, late OF Chatham
square, being installed under that
stately and solemn roof.
AS ] stepped out on the terrace to
join that gay-colored group in duck
and flannel and shantung silk clus-
tered about the willow tower table
and the greentrimmed garden canopy
my pulse count was just about 100.
For I really believe was more
afraid Of that cluster Of amiable
men and women than I would have
been of a collection OF gangsters
awaiting me on the darkest corner
Of helrs kitchen. So I dissembled my
nervousness by stopping to pat one Of
the deerhounds which trotted conf
IDENTIFY up beside me.
Fine animals, eh?" off -handedly re.
marked a man who promptly arose
from one Of the club chairs in front
Of me. / at once saw that it was my
old friend, Admiral Trevor Ferris. 1t
seemed natural enough that he should
give me a chair and then explain that
deerhound was ornamental but not
overly intelligent. Then a younger
man on my right began charging on
the intelligence of the Zeigler point
ers, and fat man further around the
circle spoke of the cleverness OF the
Elmview' scout-dogs. and that re-
minded me Of what I'd seen the dogs
In the New York police department
do, and before I knew it I had that
entire circle listening to my descrip-
ton Of how a police dog could be
trained to make an arrest by over
taking a prisoner and holding him.
I sat there quite at my ease rather
fattered because brick -colored
Apollo was all the while trying to
talk to me around the corner Of
Ferries flannel shoulders, at the same
time that the young man who liked
Zeigler pointers kept forestalling the