The sun., 1919-05-15

politics and suggested that the next can
didatc for Governor should come from up
State" continued the Senator, that I
, would be the most available candidate
I and that he intended to run for United
States Senator.
shonts's Name Brought In.
After this he leaned back In his chair
and said: What I wanted to see you
about was that Mr.. Shonts wanted mo
| to talk to you about the Carson Martin
bill and / want you to support IT, and
he said. 4 have not been retained
Il said, Why. Governor, you do not
understand this bill II Ia not simply a
question of permitting the Public Service
Commission to regulate fares. but It
| carries with II q reputation Of con-
tract obligations 1 cannot support IL
and have made It perfectly clear that
cannot"
According to the Senator Mr.. Whit
! man argued that It would be bad politics
| for the Republicans to defeat the Carson
Martin bill. as when the receiverships
| came the public would charge them up
to the party n the bill Should be killed
Mr.. Whitman was anxious to see him the
| next day. Sunday. and also on Monday,
but no had engagements and did not
| do It.
IT did not want to talk any more
| about the BILL" said the Senator. THE
more I thought about the situation the
| crosser ! got about II anyway. And 1
did not want to talk with him anyhow.
even II I had the time.
when he says called him on the
telephone and asked TO see him ne made
false statement, and when he says that
he suggested that I como to his Office
he made another false statement I
don't know where his ONCE is and he did
not suggest that come to his ONCE. He,
In fact. urged that I should sec him even
then when I talked to him on the tele-
phone and then wanted to know II I
would not be back at the end of the
week. and told him I had to 60 home.
think that In in here somewhere
| At this point the Senator broke the
tenseness of the hearing when he inter-
polated an explanation OF his remark at
the Albany session in regard to certain
| things he and Mr.. Whitman had to eat
that looked different. but tasted the
| same"
stumped by Hors d'oeuvre.
| "They were not what some folks
| thought I meant at ALL" the Senator
| said. They were hors d'oeuvres, and
did not pronounce It before. because the
way 1t reads on the programme was
| q little afraid to pronounce it,
The Senator then went on to deny that
he had asked Burke to arrange a meet
ing with Samuel Beardlsey and Nicholas
F. Brady in connection with the wickes-
Martin bill. He did not ask the lobbyist
| to get suggestions from Mr.. Thomas for
| amendments to the Public Service bill.
Mr.. Thomas was Of the nature of a
| man who did not need to be asked for
suggestions, and can prove that by
Mr. Smith," the Senator declared.
Witness denied that. In connection
with the prohibition fight, he had ever
said he had Senator walters -licked to
| fraszle" that Anderson, Of tae Anti
Saloon League, was getting money from
the grape Juice interests; that Senator
Abeles was in the Yale discussing the
prohibition amendment, or that Senator
Lockwood would do the ''Foelker act"
On cross-examinstion by Mr.. Jordan
the Senator admitted that he had asked
Mr.. Beardsley on one occasion where he
could market $4,000 worth of bonds OF
the Middieport Gas and Electric Com
pany. of which he was chairman Of the
board of directors and owned $4,000 OF
the $4,000 capital stock. on which 10
| per cent. dividends were paid
Discussion on Carfare Bill.
This is the way Senator Thompson
related his conversation with the Gov
ernor about the Pratt bill In 1913:
II went into the back room. and I
| said: Governor, are you familiar with
this increased fare legislation that a,
| that time I called It the six cent fare
because the bill mentioned is at a six
cent bill. provided for six cents, no,
for any more. And he said: Yes he
had had some talk about It Well ]
said. what do you think about It?
Why, he said. what do you think abou,
TT Well I said. do not like TO be
| for IT.
WELL ne said. 7 do not either He
said: 4 do not like this six cent idea.
He said: 7 am going TO run for oflcs
In the fan: am going to run for Gov
error. My pictures win DO in the sub,
ways, along the railroads, and do no,
want people digging down in their
pocket for an extra cent at that time
with an opportunity to look at my pic.
ture while ] am running for Governor
because they might call me a Penny
Governor"
~ would rather give them ten cent.
| than six cents
81 said: DO you want this bill? And
he said: No. do not wish 1t would
not be passed"
Senator Thompson testified that ht
had gone to see George w. Perkins In
| regard to the farm and market coun.
I'll bill at the request OF Coy. Whitman
Mr.. Perkins was In doubt as to whether
II ought TO be signed. This was the bill
under which the Governor nominated
Mr.. Perkins for head OF the council,
| On his annual opening OF the session
visit to Senator Thompson, the latter
testified, Burke called on him on Janu
airy 10 of this year. He told Burke he
had introduced his public service bill but
| did not care much whether Il passed OF
not. that It was apparent TO him the
| public utilities companies did not want a
| square deal.
| They got to talking about Mr., Brady
and power. The Senator had on his
desk a letter which he had dictated tc
John D. Rockefeller and he showed It tc
Burke. 1t was one OF the two letters
Burke testified. that would show Sen.
ator Thompson was a rascal and unfit
to sit in the Sentae. The letter was
never sent as II was decided It would
never reach the Rockefeller eye.
| 1t started of by saying that the Sen.
ator had Just received and read a copy
| OF an address made by him (Rocke,
feller) on the Brotherhood OF Men and
Nations"
Letter to John ID. Rockefeller, Jr
The letter went on to say:
Having read its forty-two pages
hope II will be considered fair II yoy