Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1919-10-02

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this particular time. under the par
ticular conditions, the circumstances
are different than ever existed before
in this country. doubt II you realize
the danger of the minority securing
, control"
II appreciate that" Senator Walsh
! rejoined, "but I also appreciate the
danger Of employers refusing to see
their workmen."
: Only Bars "outsiders."
IT haven't" Judge Gary protested
vigorously. II have refused only to
meet outsiders, who are trying to or
ganize the steel industry"
You decline to see these men.
Senator walsh replied. because you
say you believe 1t would be step To-
ward the closed shop"
you leave out other things, said
Judge Gary. They did not represent
our men. They were outsiders. They
represent only a very small minority.
The large majority OF our men do not
want to Join unions. They are satls-
Senator Walsh said he held high
opinion Of the eorporationh;s rs af ;ntare sn
primarily is in securing an end to
"this terrible strike.
Il think it would have been the
worst thing that could have happened
to this country" Judge Gary declared
"if I had seen these men,.
Gould you not have seen them and
then reported on their demands ana
said you refused to go farther?' asked
Mr.. Walsh.
Acted in "Public Interest"
IT think what did was in the pub
NC interest" Judge Gary replied: You
think it is not. I am sorry that we
Differ
suggestion for settlement of the
strike and replied that if peace Is
maintained and the laws kept from
violation and "individuals left free.
that the employees would settle II
"These gentlemen started out to
unionize the steel industry" Judge
Gary said. ""They gave public notice
of it at Atlantic City. That was their
only proposition before they even had
mittee was appointed there and after
ward they commenced their campaign
in our mills, by every means at their
command, with promises ana threats.
knew perfectly well what they
wanted before they ever came an,e, 70 eh me
disclaim any intention to establish
what you call the closed shop" Sen
ator Jones began, what other people
called the unioni1ed shop. would you
discuss the situation with them now:
Would Not Satisfy Mr.. Gary.
IF they should make such = dis
claimer. in good faith even, 1t would
not satisfy me- Judge tSaf . CAY s 1Sa
promised that would be shortly dis
placed and their positions taken over
by men who would continue progress
toward the eventual object OF union
ism-the closed shop.
"A mere statement that they are
willing to eliminate the issue does not
affect the situation. We must apply
mast experiences with the conduct Of
strikes and the stated objects Of labor
unions.
II have not any faith In the claims
now made by labor unions concerning
the present strike. am inclined to
think there are two elements In the
American Federation OF Labor. I am
satisfied from the way this campaign
has been conducted, the uniontxtng OF
. small minority and the calling Of q
strike. its conduct by Intimidation.
threats. assaults only held back BY
the courage of the officers OF the law.
there would have been q condition in
this country that all Of us would have
hated to see.
II cannot discuss the situation from
tie viewpoint which members Of this
cemmittee take cannot talk about
arbitration or compromise ut this
time, am sorry to say"
& Seek Common Ground.
According to the record in this
said the open shop 10 not an issue
HIRE" Senator Jones said. lyon
have said you are willing to have an
open shop The public il vitality in
terested. Tho object of our investi-
CATION is not to take sides. but to see
PEI we cannot get some common
NOW, xe might as well stop. If
yeur policy now 10 to refuse to accept
any compromise. We might as well
Q6if now"
sYour statement il clear and COM
bRehensive," Judge Gary returned.
I'VE interpret public sentiment in this
to settle Industrial conditions 10 to
leave every one free to act upon nat
urAf laws and conditions, 10 long As
the law 10 observed.
II believe the attitude Of the pub
lie FIRST demands that absolute peace
pc maintained, and every interest and
man protected think every one
should be allowed to make their own
contracts as to labor and conditions"
Senator Walsh asked II Mr.. Gary
would agree that capital and labor
both have made mistakes" and when
ator Walsh asked:
Then isn't that q reason for arbi-
tration?'
That depends on the c,rcum;
stances. MI Gary replied. amid
laughter Of the audience.
To Meet oompers Next Week.
Mr.. Gary. waving his hand at Mr..
Gompers and other labor leaders. said
he had no personal opposition to
them and would meet them in next
weeks labor conference.
Discussing labor conditions and pro-
posals in England. Mr.. Gary said.
unions there control industry. to the
great damage Of the country. and she
is compelled to do things that are not
good examples for US.
IF they get control here" he said.
1T will mean the establishment Of
methods and practices tending to in
crease costs and lower production
very greatly. all at the expense Of
comes we shall have to face it. but
today there 10 no reason for consid-
ering 1t. II you leave this situation
alone It will settle itself"
well. will that go any distance to
settling other strikes in the coun-
try Senator Kenyon asked.
Defeat Of Vicious "Will Help"
"I certainly do" Mr.. Gary returned.
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