New-York tribune., 1919-07-23

1917" reminded Attorney Elliott G..
Stevenson, in the concluding cross ex-
animation.
Yes sir"
'Prior to that there was much aeita.
tion as to furnishing food and mum.
lions to the Entente Allies and foat-
ing loans, wasn't there?"
Il believe So"
You opposed the loans. and the
missions which came over to arrange
them?'
Il said they ought to be carried out
of the country"
You were also opposed to making
trouble over the submarine outrages %
Il don't recall that"
"Did you say that the excitement
over sinking of the Lusitania was 20
litical bunk q"
81 don't think So"
Didn't you say in the presence of
TRENDS that the Americans had no
business to be on the ship ?"
II don't think So"
Mr. Stevenson read from magazine
an article by Willis j. Abbott, in which
Mr.. Ford was quoted as saying that
he had not been in Europe two hours
On his peace mission before he
realized that he had taken the wrong
course and that German militarism
must DE crushed before there could be
hope of world peace.
Il don't remember saying anything
like that"
Mr.. Abbott further quoted the manu-
facturer as saying that he didn't see
how the United States could remain
neutral. Mr.. Ford testified that he
did not recall that, either.
You did talk with him."
ooh, yes; at the tractor plant"
well what did you say %
II can't remember"
Mr. Ford said that personally he
never writes letters, and rarely signs
those written in his name by secre-
taries.
Mr. Stevenson read an address TO
Congress by President Wilson in
December 1915 at just about the time
Mr.. Ford was sailing on the peace ship
Oscar II. 1t dealt with army and
navy increases and military training
for citizens which the Pres dent said
were imperative. The lawyer then
quoted President Lincoln as asking
If he must shoot simple minded de
serter, while the willy agitator who in
duced hlm to desert goes free. Mr..
Ford said that he did not recollect the
quotation, nor another to the effect that
volunteering is as much an enemy as
one who kills soldier. He agreed
with the Lincoln sentiment, however,
but remarked that the Civil War was
being waged at the time
But how about the sending of the
National Guard to the border; the
Pershing expedition after Villa; the
massacre at Carrizal at the time yon
were working against enlistments in
1857 demanded the lawyer.
81 don't know"
Defines Monroe Doctrine
The witness denied that he was op-
posed to higher education. He was
asked to define the Monroe Doctrine.
Big brother act, | guess said the
witness
What do you mean by that?"
TO help the Western Hemisphere"
After some hesitation. and in JUS
tlce to yourself, Mr.. Ford feel that
it is best to ask you if you can read.
Inc impression has gone out here. by
your repeated declinations to read
from important papers, that you can
not read. Can you?"
Yes, but | read slowly and am both
cred by hay fever, which makes it u'-
pleasant for me to read out loud
don't Ike to do it for that reason"
A letter to Congressman requesting
support for the Oscar II expedition
was read, but Mr.. Ford said he had no
recollection of it.
81 merely financed the expedition y
said Mr. Ford.
Replying to question involving his
advertising manager, Charles Brown
ell, Mr.. Ford admitted that at one
time he thought of having Mr.. Borwn-
ell rewrite the Bible into plain, modern
English The plan was not carried
out.
Mr.. Stevenson based long series of
questions on an interview with Mr..
Ford by Edward Marshall.
Mr.. Marshall asked the manufacturer
how he would solve the Mexican prob
lem.
"Certainly not by harming them,
but by helping them" Mr.. Ford was
quoted as saying.
Ibid you say that, Mr.. Ford?". asked
81 must have said it, because I am
trying to help them now"
"How ?"
With tractors; teaching them to
make them
The magazine article quoted Mr..
Marshall as asking if Mr.. Ford favored
abolishing the American army and
navy and the latter as replying yes
Did Mr.. Marshall ask that question
and did you reply yes?" asked Mr.
Stevenson.
"No, think not"
Mr.. Ford will resume tomorrow.
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