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asked why Mr.. williams quoted WASH
ington. adding:
You have repudiated all his doc
trines."
Senator Hitchcock insisted that the
time had come for investigation. 81
want to know what interests the Senator
from Massa chusetts has been talking
to- he exclaimed. IT want to know
what these interests are which are de-
nounced as having special concern with
the terms OF this treaty. want to know
how they got possession Of this treaty.
held them in New York and conf1den-
TALLY discuss them with Senator'S"
II wish the Senator from Nebraska
would not speak 30 violently" interposed
Senator Lodxe. He frightens the Sen
ate.''
II hope the Senator will not construe
as violence what IL simply a robust voice
from the plains Of the West" was the
rejoinder.
Not Asking Wilson'S Guidance.
Senator Lodge then took the floor. II
want to say" he began. that we are
not asking instructions from, the Presi-
dent. We are simply asking for public
document and he can refuse 1t II he sees
At.
"r shall be delighted to have an In
vestigation. II I had had my way we
would have adopted this resolution and
started the investigation at once. \ The
Senator finds fault that we did not
carry on an investigation IN New York
1 am not aware that we yet had any
authority to carry on an investigation
at all.
Now let me state all that the COM
mittee can possibly find out from me.
was shown a copy of the treaty by q
friend connected with no interests: a pri-
vate citizen. How It came into his hands
/ did not inquire. He 10 a man of the
utmost uprightness: II were at liberty
to mention his name-which am not
the whole country would know there
never was . more outrageous suggestion
than that anything could have come into
his hands by corruption. 1t came TO
him, I have no question. in q perfectly
legitimate way.
That copy had an opportunity to
examine. at least one article Of It The
text of the treaty covers 20S folio pages.
The whole treaty, French and English
text, covers 415 pags. The only part
acquired any familiarity with was an
article at the end, a sort of addendum
to the treaty. because It had nothing to
do with the peace with Germany.
CsIoDlihilcu at great
think IL Is as long as the League Of
Nations pact-a great and permanent
organization for the internationaliza-
ton Of labor. a very interesting article
Another Man who Has n Copy.
Il was afterward told by another gen.
| tleman wholly unconnected with bust
| ness or financial interests that he also
had a copy. which he would allow me to
examine at length. told him I pre-
ferred not bring any copy here, because
I should feel 1t my duty to make II pub
lie. This gentleman said to me that he
| knew Of four copies In New York. That
is merely hearsay. ! know personally Of
| only two.
II saw nobody representing a financial
interest I did not go within two or
| three miles of Wall street. Therefore I
cannot testify as to the possession of
copies by financial interests. But this
was stated by the State Department
| when II was explaining what I had said,
although the Department was not with
me when I saw IT
They said that they thought I must
have seen parts Of the treaty which
| were in the hands Of financial interests
in New York. I suggest when you be-
gin to investigate that you investigate