New-York tribune., 1919-11-26
Raid ON Reds
Reveals TINT
In Secret Room
Continued from page l

sla and receive reply AS recently
as two weeks ago he sent a communi-
cation TO the Soviet government stat
ing that up to that time the United
States had refused to recognize him as
an envoy.
Five times since last April he has
been supplied with funds sent him by
courier. the route taken in each in
stance being kept secret.
The Soviet government, instead Of
having repudiated its war debts, has
Informed him of its willingness to
open negotiations for q settlement of
S1OO0O0,000 worth of bonds. which are
held largely in the United States.
About one thousand contracts already
have been signed by American manu-
facturers for the delivery of $4,000 600
worth of goods to Soviet Russia. A
bureau has been opened in Detroit for
the purchase Of automobiles and other
goods which are to be shipped when
the blockade is lifted
Last September he paid 81 900 coun-
sci fees to Dudley Field Malone, who
was engaged by the Soviet Bureau to
assist in an effort to send S9,50O,O0O
worth of boots and canned goods to
Russia. The goods were not sent be
cause of the blockade.
Russia Sends Expense Money
Martens testified his Office expenses
of S 200 a week and salaries came, not
from contributions in this country, but
directly from the Soviet government.
How does the money come to YOU
from Russia?" asked Mr.. Newton
"ln cash, by messenger" replied
Martens.
How much at time ~
Twenty thousand dollars. About
three quarters of it is in American
currency and one-quarter in foreign
currency"
when was the last time you received
a messenger"
"About five weeks ago"
"Was the messenger Russian ?''
81 decline to answer that
what becomes of the messengers
after they have left your office ?"
~ don't know
"l ou mean that a stranger walks in,
lays an envelope containing $40, 900 on
your desk and then walks out again
without you knowing what becomes of
him ?"
81 don't know what becomes of him
Messengers Whereabouts a Secret
"Wil you state whether you know
whore some Of these messengers are
now?"
Il will not state I may know where
they are, but | am bound not to reveal
anything relating to communications
between me and my govcrnment'
Would you tell ii you obtained the
consent of your government
"Yes"
How long would it take to obtain
your governments consent"
about two months"
"Now, Mr.. Martens" continued Nh
Newton, has it ever occurred to ycu
that secretly sending messengers to
and from Europe while this country is
still at war, at least technically. might
constitute violation of the law 9'
"lt is not a violation," replied Mar
tens. "The war is over long ago. Mr.
Wilson has said the war is over"
Explaining his refusal to comply with
all the demands of the committee, the
witness said he did not believe the
committee had the power TO compel
him to reveal all his papers. He sand
he based his refusal on d ruling of the
United States Supreme Court that cor
porations or persons were not required
to produce their private papers before
a non judicial body.
"Friendly Agency" in United States
Martens admitted it was a "friondly
agency" outside of the United State
which enabled him to communicate
with his government despite the
blockade
"Do you know a gentleman by tho
name of Dudley Field Malone?" askeo
Mr. Newton. "He is a great orator
isn't he ?"
eyes, we employed him as counse
in helping US to get a shipment o.
S9,5000O0 worth of boots and cannct
goods to Russia"
"You paid him $1,000 last September
| Now isn't it fact that Mr. Malone