The sun., 1919-07-19

A. Yes, do: some OF u.
Q. What 10 said IN the editorial, then,
about bomb throwing?
A. Nothing that know of.
Q. What Is said In the editorial about
overturning the Government
A. Nothing. only in the headline
Objections came thick ana fast. Mt
times coming In chorus from counsel for
plaintiff
Q. will read?
A. Yes.
Q. (Reading) mo provision will be
made for any one dependent upon them.
Their wages will stop. their families may
get along In any fashion possible. their
positions will be filled. and n they come
back safely and apply for their Jobs
again they will be on the same footing as
any other applicants. This Is the rule
for Ford employees everywhere"
Q. You have not stopped me.
A No, 1 have not stopped you.
Q. You have not found anything yet?
A. You have read the headline?
Q. You understood that. didn't you?
A. Yes. Well, you can stop right there.
Q. The headline. you said, Mr.. Ford,
was to indicate what was la the body
Of the editorial?
A. Yes.
Q. You don't find anything about
bomb throwing or overturning the Gov
eminent?
A. Nothing, only In the headline.
The editorial was completed and Mr..
Ford found nothing anarchistic only in
the headline-"Ford is an Anarchist"
Q. Let us see whether they stuck TO
the truth, behind the headline; that Is
just what am trying to ask about.
Quotes Libel" Editorial.
(Reading) -"Tf Ford allows this rule
OF his shops to stand he will reveal
himself not as merely an ignorant ideal
list, but as an anarchistic enemy of the
nation which protects him In his
wealth."
Q. Anything wrong about that?
A. think that has been all gone over
Just as your honor says here, gone over
and gone over.
Q. Haven't tried 10 be fair with you,
Mr. Ford?
A Absolutely, yes.
"a. have not tried to mislead you?
A. No. but say -
Q. What?
A. No, sir.
Mr.. Lucking-Take a modest witness
and pound him into saying II admit I
nm an ignorant idealist." Now 1t seems
to me that should be left to argument
"a
a modest man into contessing something
OF that kind before the Jury, II the court
please.
Q. Has anybody been pounding you?
A. No, sir.
Q. thought 50. You or Mr. Lucking
started the lawsuit, didn't you?
A. Yes.
Q. We are here because you brought
US?
Q. Now, we will pass a little further.
tReading]:
"A man so ignorant as Henry Ford
may not understand fundamentals of
the Government"
Now you hardly want to question the
accuracy OF that statement in view of
What you have said here yourself about
yourself. would you?
Appeals to the Court.
A. ITO the COURT: Does ne want me
to say don't know anything about
Government?
Q. have asked you about quite a
number of things. not very many; I
| have not wanted to press 1t, bearing upon
| the question OF whether you were a
| well informed man, competent to edu-
cate the people. or whether you were an
ignorant man, who ought not to under
| take to educate the people don't
| want to go over that again. until you
force 1t.
A No.
q. In view of what you have said.
lou would not question but what that is
| a proper Observation-Disclosures you
were an ignorant man?
Mr.. Lucking: That is objected TO as
brutal. inhuman.
A. As said, l was ignorant of most
| things.
Mr.. Lucking: When an objection is
| made. Mr.. Ford. wait until the court
rules.
The court: don't see anything inn
proper in the question.
Q. Do you think | have been trying
| to be brutal?
\. No. sir.
O. You said you were ignorant OF
most things. didn't you?
A Yes. sir.
Q. That you showed ignorance abou,
the things that you undertook to edu-
cate the people about?
A No. / did not say that.
Q. Didn't you say yor were ignorant
about the war situation and what was
needed for preparedness?
| A. No, did not
Q. Didn't you say you didn't know
anything about what was needed. oil
what We had?
A. I said did know something about
what we had.
| Q. Now did you know about what wa,
needed about preparedness?
A The same as anybody else. I know
It from many people.
Q. asked you IL you knew anything
about how much OF an army we had
nr NJ daI
didn't i?
A. Yes
Anything More Ignorantf"
Q. I asked you. too. what a mobil,
army was. and you said 1t was a larg'
army modified. Could there be any
thing moro ignorant than that?
| A A large army ready TO move yes
| Q. We were discussing, in connection
with Gen. Weavers testimony, the coas
defences, and the question of whether
the nation could be attacked by for
eign nation. easily, or with difficulty
and find In your booklet on page IL
The isolation OF the United States is
perfect safeguard against successful in
vasion. and If this fact would not pre-
vent a landing Of hostile armies tn
very vastness of the country and tn
enormous population would make sucl
an attempt futile. We are neither Aztec
nor East Indians" What do you meal
by that?
A don't know what I meant by II
Mr.. Stevenson.
Q. You don't know what you meant b,
lt?
A. It is Mr.. Delavignes language.
don't know what he did mean by it,
Q. What did you mean by the refer