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East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

- 1t was learned, however. that army
investigators are probing the circum-
stances which seem to connect a
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
Washington Banana Pic.

Washington pie with banana filling
Take cup OF flour. teaspoon
baking powder and a little salt: sifi
all together. Then add 1 cup of su-
gar. Take Ia cup butter. break in
I egg and fill mp with milk, add tc
flour and sugar. heat well and add !
teaspoon of vanilla. Bake in pie
or Washington cake tins.
When done. slice bananas the Iong
way. very thin: make the layer OF ba-
nanas quite thick.
u desired, i,ie can be frosted on
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
HOUSEHOLD


SIft f-2 cups flour salt and 1 tea
spoonful OF soda together. Then add.
/ scant cup of table syrup. 12 cup OF
butter and lard tscanD. 1 egg. 1-2
teaspoonful cinnamon. 1-2 teaspoon
fui nutmeg. IA cup OF milk and last
add / cup cut dates. Bake In moder-
ate oven As minutes.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

Camp Funston army major with the
mysterious death OF the nurse. His
name was not disclosed here.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
DEATH or NURSE
BEING INVESTIGATED

KANSAS CITY, Mo. March 20
Army officials at Fort Riley. Kansas
base hospital, have issued no comment
on the circumstances surrouning the
death of Miss 1nez Elizabeth Reed,
army nurse. who was found dead near
san Mateo, California. last SUNDAY.
Miss Reed is said to have been on fur
Tough from her post at Fort Riley.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

What picturesque variations you
have introduced into your dancing!
1 am entitled to no credit" replied
Miss Cayenne What YOU call varia-
tons were the efforts of my partner
and myself to quit stepping on each
others feet,--Washiugton star.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

Take quart of flour. 2 teaspoons
OF cream tartar. 1 TEASPOON of soda
1-2 teaspoon of salt. ! teaspoon nut
meg. sift all together. then add 2 cups
sugar, beaten eggs and small piece
OF butter; last cups of milk. knead
well on board before rolling out ana
add more flour IL needed.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

Roper. as collector of internal rev.
enue. is responsible for the gathering
In of the shellels that pay the income
tax. So If you're delinquent Roper's
the man who'll be back of the man
who makes you come across.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20

Take l-2 cup molasses, 1-2 cup ta-
BILE syrup. 1-2 cup of butter or lard.
/ tablespoonful OF vinegas. 1-3 ta-
blespoonful of soda. 1-2 teaspoonful
OF ginger a little salt egg and flour
10 make 1t stiff enough to roll.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
Fish and Potato Hash with Onions

Take 1-2 pound salt fish and boii
until soft. Boil 6 large potatoes and
then take and mash potatoes and mix
fish into 1t. Then pare and slice 5
large or 10 small onions and fry
them very brown. When done mix in
fish and potatoes and ress with pork
fat. Brown on both sides and serve
hot. It
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
ButterIess Egsic4s Ginger Brcau.

Take cups OF flour To cup OF
molasses, 1-2 cup sugar. 1-e cup of
sour cream. into which is beaten
teaspoon of soda, 1-2 salt and l tea
spoon of ginger. Bake in a quick
oven.
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1919-03-20
Original cornfIaIse Pudding.

Put 8, cups of cornflake into I
quart Of milk, then add a little cin-
namon. nutmeg and salt. / cup OF Ia
BILE syrup, 3 eggs, butter size Of wal
nut. and one can add a few raisins to
flavor. Bake hours and serve warm
with cream, whipped or plain.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
It necessary for his removal to The

it necessary for his removal to The
Emmanuel Hospital at Mankato. Ow-
L ing to his advanced age and the severe
pain caused by the injuries his acct
dent is considered bad one.
Paul Lindner of Hinckley this state
was called here to have charge of mat
tiers in connection with the estate of his
brother-inTIaw the late Gustave Lenig.
Mr.. Lindner was for many years re-
sident of this town and noted many
remarkable improvements in Morgan
during his absence.
According to official confirmation
we learn that another blue star IN our
service flag has turned to gold.
Friends of A. j. Gies are informed
that Gies was killed in action IN
France November 3rd. He was twen-
ty five years of ago young of exem-
plary habits and he died as he lived to
NAVE this world place to live IN. AT
different time he was employed at
the farm homes of T. C. Croker and
]. P. Kragh and his employers speak
of him in the highest terms as a
man of, high. ideals and noble purpose.
His parents reside in Indiana.
Friends of the Watt Davidson fam
lily will be sorry to learn that death
has visited their home recently and
removed from the family circle, their
fifteen years old daughter, Cynthia
The Davidson's were land owners near
Gilfillan and were among the most
vrominent citizens of this town, re-
moving to st. Paul number of years
ago, where they still reside. News
of the sudden demise stated that death
was due to influenza and asthmatic
complications.
Mrs. Lars George was called sud-
denly to go to the home of son liv
ing near Lucan. The message stated
her son very i'll with influenza. She
left at once to be present at his bed
side.
The Ladies Aid is entertained at
the home of Mrs. G.. w. Ellison this
afternoon wednesday, where an in
teresting program treating on the
old and the new condition in the home
of the Oriental women will be dis
cussed. Mrs. McMaster's section
serve the lunch.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22

A number of young folks from here
attended the high school play at Red
wood Friday evening.
The Birthday Club met at the home
of Mrs. O. r. Bramsche on Wednes-
day to help celebrate her birthday.
Charles Olson of Creston, Iowa is a
welcome guest at .he home of his
sister Mrs. A. G. Sandburg.
J. L. Borg left Saturday for St.
Paul where he will receive medical
treatment.
Kenneth Mckay returned from
Grant, Illinois on Saturday having re-
ceived his final discharge
Mrs. Welder entertained conpa-
ny of her friends Monday evening in
honor of her daughter Mrs Gilbert
McDougall.
Mr.. and Mrs. Harry Johnson are
confined to their home by illness.
The missionary society will meet
at the home of Mrs. Andrew Stewart
Thursday afternoon, January %.
7 Amanda Wieske left for Echo Sat-
urday to visit few days with friends.
Word was received here last week
of the death of Howard ellis of As
essippi, Manitoba, death being cause
ed by influenza.
Carl Hultquist of Belview was a
Delhi visitor between trains Monday.
Mr. Thos. and James Mckay at
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22

tend the thoroughbred Short Horn
show in ST. Paul the first of last
week.
II. I. Daniels of Minneapolis was
here Tuesday to attend the meeting
of the stock holders of the Farmers
and Merchants State Bank.
The Young Mems Club met at the
home of McKay's Tuesday evening.
A very exciting candy pull was en-
joyed at the Welder home on Friday
evening.
Word has been received that Ernese
Turnwall has arrived from overseas.
At present he is stationed at Gang
Merit N. J. but hopes to be released
soon.
r. G. Rogers made a business tris
to Belview on Saturday.
The annual congregation meeting
was held at the church following dir.
ner on Tuesday January IA. Mr.
Bunting and Mr.. Peter Mckay were
reelected as elders, Mr.. McCorquodals.
reelected trustee, Mr. John Borg ell
ected secretary and treasurer Mrs
Valdez, choir leader, Miss Grace Til
belts and Mabel Blanchard organistS.
Miss Dean McCorquodale was a
Belview visitor Friday afternoon.
Florence Mckay spent the weekend
with her friend, Miss Grace Whitconih
at Redwood Falls
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
SHUTDOWN NEWS

Miller Jensen made business trip
to Redwood Falls last week.
Mrs. Kagel who has been visiting
with her children in Shutdown return
ed to her home at Springfield.
Martin Bredvold returned home
Wednesday from Spokane, Washing
ton where he visited his daughter, Ell
sic who has been Ill with influenza
Lewie Lawrence was on the sick list
the past week.
Mr.. and Mrs. John Liptzky and
children of Kensal, North Dakota vi
sited at the Frank Gatzke home last
week.
John Berger attended the masquer-
ade dance in Springfield last Friday
evening.
Robert Johnson had telephone in
stalled in his lone, last week.
Mr., and Mrs. Elton, Perley of Elan
drcau S. OAK. are visiting with srela-
tives in SHUTDOWN.
Carl Kagel returned home last
week from Watcrtown S. D. where
he visited with relatives.
Mrs. August Tonak is visiting with
her daughter Mrs. Walter Basel.
Michael Show made a business trip
to Wanda last week.
Mr.. and Mr. Elton Perley left Sat
urday for Milroy where they will visit
with relatives.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22

Mrs. N. F. Dripps of Redwood Falls,
is visiting at the home of her brother,
A. j. Yackel. -Comfrey Times.
Judge Frank Clague left Tuesday
for New Ulm where his judgeship
duties will keep him until the last
of the week.
E. P. Bertrand, who has acted as
president of the Farmers & Merch-
ants State Bank of Sleepy Eye since
its organization fourteen years ago,
declined reelection at the annual
meeting last Tuesday. Mr.. Bertrand
is over eighty years of age and his
health has not been the best for a
couple years past. This, he said made
it impossible for him to serve any
longer at the helm of the bank. In
his place Judge was elected.
John Hustad who formerly was a
Redwood Falls school boy, writes that
he is in the army of occupatino in
Germany and is having good time;
that the people treat thom fine and
the sauerkraut is good.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22

Mrs. F. L. French is visiting with
her parents in Minneapolis.
G. A. Jaehning made a business trip
to Wood Lake Tuesday afternoon.
Paul Kaefel of Des Moines, Iowa is
visiting at the home of Mrs. Il. Hold
house.
The talk is Everybody is going to
the Old Time Dance, January 81, a.
the Armory. 27-2ts.
Mrs. A. c. Dolliff left Sunday
night for a visit with Mr.. and Mrs.
L. P. Dolliff in Minneapolis.
The Redwood Farmers Club meet
Friday evening January "a at The
home of Mr.. ard Mrs. A. D. Stewart.
Mrs. P. J. Dolan of near Milroy
went to Rochester last week for me-
icala treatment at the Mayo hospl-
tai.
Mr.. and Mrs. John Lauterbach en-
.ertained the members of the Lauter-
bach family at their home Thursday
evening in honor of Christ Schulte's
birthday anniversary.
Elisha Golden who has been in ac-
tive service overseas for the past sew
eral months has been discharged from
the service and is at present visiting
with his grandmother and his I'M
Gle, DIR. Golden here. The young man
was gassed while in service but has
recovered from the effects of it.
Mrs. P. M. Fuller and her sons are
preparing for their big sale of pure
bred Dufoc Jersey hogs which will be
held at their home West Lawn farm,
west Of Redwood Falls next Friday
January "a. They have advertised
\heir sale widely and expect a large
4 ttendance if weather conditions make
travelling at all possible. They ship
I'd fine hog to buyer in Montana
Asst week
n Corporal Kenneth Mckay has re-
ceived his final discharge from mill
cary service and has returned to the
aome of his parents Mr.. and Mrs.
Peter Mckay of Delhi. Corporal Nc
KAY saw active overseas service and
is still suffering from badly wound
I'D arm. The Gazette hopes later to
publish an interview with Kenneth,
f we can persuade him to overcome
MS natural reticence and tellu
lew things. @ 1
SMr. and Mrs. Martin Lohrenz, of
alydwood Falls, were visitors on jan
lry 18th at the big exhibit of South
In California products maintained
.e 20 the public in the Los Angeles
amber of Commerce. They also at
ded the lectures and moving pic
res that are part of the daily pro-
gram. The exhibit is the largest of
any in the country maintained by a
commercial organization. Before re-
ssrning home, Mr.. nd Mrs. Lohrenz
expect to visit several of the many
other places of interes. in Southern
California.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
Miss Esther Tradewel came up

Miss Esther Tradeweu came up
from Morton Saturday evening to
spend Sunday with her parents.
S. S. Castle and son were grinding
buckwheat for A. j. White the past
week, his 2-5 share of crop from sew
en- acres of grain on his farm east of
the Scenic City, producing 1895 pounds
OF pure buckwheat flour valued at
$50 and $40 pounds of bran valued at
SIS making total of $104. Who says
buckwheat is not paying crop for
the Redwood County Farmer?
Our fellow citizens are certainly
enjoying this halmy weather except
ing Chas. Brandt and Ben Simondet,
the ice contractors who have several
carloads Of ice contracted for delivery
and the weather man refuses to work
in harmony with them in their line of
business.
Sam Castle has purchased two
wood saving machines for large and
small timber and in company with his
son Fay and crew of men expects to
convert several hundred cords of TIM
Der into store wood.
This will help keep the home fires
burning until the boys come home re-
CARELESS of any coal shortage.
Miss Iva Colburg and Ernest White
visited friends in our vicinity Sunday
afternoon.
There will be program for the de-
dication of the Service Flag at the
Restaurant hall Wednesday evening.
Program begins at eight o'clock.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
DELHI NEWS ITEMS

Mrs. Peter johnson and daughter
of Swedes Forest left for their home
Sunday after spending last week with
her parents Mr.. and Mrs. Rogers.
Robert Cummings of Cottonwood
is the guest of his mother Mrs. Isa-
bell Cummings.
Miss E. A Stewart spent several
DAYS at Redwood last week.
Miss Johnson the visiting nurse
called on the Delhi pupils last Wednes-
day. Thursday and Friday.
j.. M. Stewart of Redwood Falls
was q Delhi caller on Friday.
Two very interesting games Of bas-
ket ball were witnessed in the school
gymnasium on Thursday evening.
Two teams from the young mems club
played game and the High School
girls played the All Stars. The game
scored 8 to in favor Of the All
Stars. There will be return game
in the near future. Watch for the
date.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
NORTH REDWOOD

Charles Simondet, and Ulrich Lipp
went to New Ulm last Tuesday on a
business trip.
Miss Maude Cliff of Redwood Falls
was an over Sunday guest OF Mrs. r.
G. Castle.
Misses 4Gena Knutsony- Dorothy
Smith. Edna and Grace Joern of Red
wood Falls were callers at the Royal
Cafe Sunday afternoon.
Mrs. Hutchinson enjoyed visit
from her brother-in-law Mr.. Bertek
of Lamberton a few days last week.
Mrs. VIM. Simondet and children
were guests of Mrs. c. Simondet the
first of the week.
The Ladies Circle was entertained
at the Misses Bertha and Lena Kuenz-
Ii home Thursday afternoon.
Mrs. Lucille Meyers and son Walter
of Lennon, South Dakota, are visit
ing at the home of the formers's aunt
Mrs. S. S. Castle this week.
Stephen Hosken received word last
week that his son Archie had arrived
in New York from France.
Miss Florence Buery came home
from Morton last week to have her
eyes treated.
Miss Ruby White spent the first
of the week with Miss Arlie Castle.
Mr.. and Mrs. C. F. johnson walked
down from Delhi Sunday to visit rel
atives.
Mrs. Louis Gartner and children
are visiting at the Otto Lindeman
home near Clements this week.
A number of Degree of Honor la
dies from Redwood Falls called on
Mrs. S. Castle last week
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1919-01-22
MORGAN NEWS ITEMS

Special services were held at the
Methods church the past two weeks.
Good sized audiences were present
and the pastor, Rev. G. F. Bubblitz
conducted the meetings.
William Buchholz of Sanborn, an old
resident of this town a number of
years ago, attended t.he annual meet
ing of the Farmers and Merchants
Bank here the past week. Mr.. Buch-
holz is operating a undergrad at
Sanborn and has many friends here
who are always pleased to see him.
Raleigh Albrecht the youngest son
of Mrs. Alice Albrecht, has gone TO
st. Paul whore he has entered St.
Thomas College IN the preparatory
work. Warren Morgan accompanied
him to the city, transacting business
returning home on Wednesday.
Mesdames w. c. Morgan, H. O.
Johnson, C. III. Picker and H. B. West
were shopping at Redwood Falls,
Tuesday of last week
The Misses Hattie Gilland and Es-
Their VESSEL were Redwood visitors
on Saturday.
The pupils and the faculty of the
local public schools are endeavoring
to make up for the time which was
lost. during the enforced vacation last
fall caused by the influenza epidemic
For the past three Saturdays he
children have held their regular study
sessions.
G.. Ashbough, a nephew of julius
Anderson has accepted his discharge
from Kansas camp, and is being en-
tertained at the Eli Lamp and An
derson home while enroute to his
home at Butler, S. d.
Rev. w. S. Shells was in Mninea-
polls the past week attending the New
Era movement of the Presbyterian
churches of the Northwest.
E. E. Carr, renter on the G. B. Root
farm has gone to ST. Mary's where
he will take treatment for anaemia.
Arthur Cranmer accompanied him.
Nels Raus attended the annual
meeting of the Twin City Wholesale
Grocery Co. on Tuesday and Wednes-
day.
Mrs. S. D. Battershell and son Car
ter are in Bismark Illinois where the
former was notified of the death of a
sister, they left to attend the funeral
Mrs. r. C. Vessel returned from
a few days visit with friends in St.
Paul. June Gallie her little grand
daughter returned with her and will
spend some time here until her par
ents, Mr.. and Mrs. Fred Gallie COM
plete the ordering of the spring goods
and return for short visit here while
enroute to their home in Benedict N.
Oak.
Mrs. A. w. Hartwick entertained
three little nephews in honor of her
son Lowells' third birthday. A birth
day cake and other good things TO
eat constituted the celebration.
The dray line was sold last week
to John Fuckers and Elmer Schwetz-
Ter. The new owners will give salts
faction for they are careful and con
young men, who will meet
with success. Herman Loose the late
owner of the dray has carried on the
work successfully for the past four
years.
Herman Kamholz had the misfor
tune to substain serious injuries
week ago Sunday, when he fell on the
icy sidewalk near his home. A frac-
tured hip and other bruises have made
The evening herald. [volume] (Albuquerque, New Mexico) 1914-1922, 1919-09-13

lapel nor set OF pocket nor n certain
number Of buttons on the sleeve. He
can wear a sinRl, breasted sui, Il he
Is 20 minded, but II he likes a double
bgasted better. or cut with n little
longer waist or n broader shoulder.
he may have Il and know he N within
the bounds OF what's what. There are
plenty Of ohhrccs for u man to suit
his wi Individual requirements; an
he must be sure OF "a that the lines
are becoming and suitable to hts
figure.
4 tendency Of all suits for every
day wear Is toward comfort. One
model which may bo varied to suit
the fancy Is a double breasted bust
ness suit ~ oxford fastened with
foftabin lines. Two slash pockets are
iu the skirt. and the sleeves are
finished with "a narrow turnback cuff.
and three buttons. The edge OF the
waistcoat show quite prominently In
the opening Of the coat.
Another suit Of a different type
" a brown cheviot. cut single breast
ed with rather . long lnpcls. rolled
softly. and fastened with two buttons.
The skirt OF the coat is rounced
away n little. ana the front shows
quite a bit or The vest. which is made
double-breastcd aud Of the same ma
terinl.
II would be impossible In this
limited space to adequately describe
the varied types OF which
are desirable for fall and winter wear.
Fancy and plain styles viii Vie for
favor. With tho more elaborate mod
ols prevailing because they are yer
Form ntting topcuats have gone ny
the board, and belted models are with
NJ again In various forms. Belts viii
bee used extensively on these models.
As iu suits. O%Ncrcoats viii be made u
the knitted and Jersey wenVes In the
snappy shades OF brown. also In dark
gray, skirts win flare but slightly
and models viii be mostly of the box
or Chesterfield shapes. \ few patch
pockets are shown. An interesting
coat for hard wear II q Chesterfield
coming lust below the knees and
made rather loosely hut along severe
lines. Tn. collar has an inset Of
velvet. but the cuffs are turnbacks
OF the material trimmed with three
buttons. This coat b. quite cUnserva-
tive and formal enough for an older
man. yet POSSESSES swngpcr enough
liD's for the young blade.
Another model of pehblcd chcviot
In "a warm gray H. made In a button
through style with a narrow belt with
an oNidized buckle. The pockets are
capaciouy ana wen made and ths
The evening herald. [volume] (Albuquerque, New Mexico) 1914-1922, 1919-09-13

tlcuiarly IN suits for young men.
The wasp waistiine which was in
troiuccd In the spring viii continue
to be worn during the winter; thofe
will also ho neon f~orm-nttlnE suits.
hut su far as older men ARE concern
ed. there viii be no bsited suits. by
tho r%clagution OF thc stringent rules
laid duwn as 90 waste Of material.
double breasted effects win be very
classy. aud couts will lave two and
thro' buttons for fastening. These
suits viii have crescent or vertical
pockets. some with buttoIhole and
button. Flaps on pockets. also patch
pockets. both ofswhiCh came under
the embargo. viii not be featured Ms
generally as one would supnos. con
sidcttng That they arr details long de-
us.
Vests. most OF ihcm. will he double
breasted. and viii be cut higher thar
were last uaou Fancy vests
will he peen to some .Ntcnt In rather,
subducd colors though vests OF the
suit material will be more generally
worn. Some shops are showing vests
In heather colurs mpdc Of smooth
materials and wooden socks to mar
moniDo. The pockets Of an vests viii
he fiuplcss and there will be few col
lars ~ any.
AAoAN'iH VIII akA4i ne p'fillttfd 10
have bolts 81 their own and cuffs too.
lf they want en-. pth'rWis c there Is
not much change In length. width or
mlncss.
Tho general summary Of the suit
situation Is that tho manufacturers
have not attempted TO lay down "
cut and dried rules as 20 mems dress.
only In necessary details ave they
trisd To crento "a uniformity: other
wise men are allowed tho greatest
luiitside IN their choice of wcurabloa.
This situation was bound 10 come att
,r ths contact OF men and ma &bns
which we have seen and are seeing
thos' drNs, Thus % serious mistake
in mode OF dressing has been un-
consciously corrected. Men have
gradually com, To realize that though
theirs b. bound To Doe 70 certain likeness
Of outline or definite STYLES which
,nnnot be avoided m ~ are not
bound by convention TO any cut OF
The evening herald. [volume] (Albuquerque, New Mexico) 1914-1922, 1919-09-13
Mems Sporting Toys

Though men are supposed 20 ~
o or less Indifferent to the little
things which are Of vast importnnce
70 the weaker sex. they are surely
vain 3boui the trlne OF dress. nrd
m y peyrr truly appreciate a vacaflcE
nnfas they are appropriately appar-
eied Tor n. Credit muaf be given 20
The HrIfiahera Tor teaching us the Img
t~ivffnnce Of having the proper CLOTHES
for the thorough enioymenf Of sports.
For from ham have We LEARNED that
II We are ready for outdoors 81
clothes ~ well AZ I'M mind. We enjoy
Il twice a. much. u - happily no
LONGER the fraAion 70 gather al the
old clothes and eone-to-aeed hats fer
he southern trip.
For terms We viii sse ali white
ruiia A. well a. white trousers striped
N green, With a green-hflled conf. o.
the same combination with Grn. -
The predominant color. White CASH
mere shirts with knitted tiea will be
WON with this outfit.
Fur motoring th7re are smart rrr.
Ian coaia lined With y very light
weight % Dutria. or for extreme