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by with both hands In his pockets
and watched England and France fill
their pockets to bursting. America
could not participate in robbing the
German corpse. but Wilson approved
others doing 1t.
: "wnl the American people approve
that after all? 1t was America which
knocked out Germany. 1t was
America which won the war for the
Allies-not France or England. 1t
was America, with Wilson's fourteen
points and talk of a peace of justice
and the end Of rule by force which
disintegrated Germany. The German
people had faith In Wilson and In
America. 1t was at their request
that they threw out twenty-five rul-
ing monarchical families and estab.
lished democracy. A different
peace was promised to that democ-
racy than to the Kaiser and Germany.
The people believed II. To-day that
Illusion Is gone. Could a severer
peace have been dictated to Ger
many under the Kaiser?'
"Annihilation the Goal"
Noske's whole frame trembled as he
spoke. He went on:
Thank God I was not one of those
who believed that democratic Ger
many would have the slightest effect
upon our enemies when 1t came to
the time for peace"
The Socialist Minister Of National
Defence, who has given the most
practical proof of his anti Rolshevist
faith and works, declared that he Is
not yet in a position to say what
will be the effect Of the pub ication
Of the terms. He leans to the belief
It will tend toward Bolshevism, say
ing: ut will take several days for
the real significance of this ensiave-
ment to sink through the German
skull" He dweit upon the "unspeak-
ably refined cruelty contained in that
document" that could leave no doubt
in the mind Of the German people
that their humiliation Is It's goal.
Zone need but point out ono condi-
ton" he said, namely. the: we must
give up tens Of thousands of milk
COWS, though thousands OF our chill.
dIen have died aud are dying to-day
for lack Of the mix that would in
sure them life. Yet America and
England and France. who pride them
selves on their civilization, who boast
OF their humanity, condemn thou
sands more German children to death
by their demand for our cows. Can
You conceive of greater cruelty? /
know what that means. for I have a
child who nearly died because I could
obtain no milk. You and all the
world may understand my feelings
then"
1No Man VIII Re Founa to sign"
"will the Government sign:" 1
asked.
an the present form of the treaty
no man will be found to sign" III
replied. And II he does sign he
will himself say that he has no in
tention OF keeping II. What is even
tually to happen I cannot say"
At this point In the interview the
Minister'S telephone rang and he an
swered it. From the brief conversa-
ton IL was plain that he was ordering
the occupation OF Leipzig by Govern
ment troops. Then he was advised
that the Cabinet was in session and
that it was waiting for him. As he
rose he threw his lead pencil force
fully to the table.
shall be frank, shall I express
my mind openly?" he asked, and con-
tinued. II believe it was your Presi-
dent who coined the phrase open
diplomacy Well, you Americans can
go home and bury yourselves with
your Wilson"
AS he bowed me out he said:
IL am not one of those who despair
Of Germany's resurrection. believe
she will come back. Such an instru-
ment as this with which you present
US will revenge itself. History has
shown that in the past--it will re-
peat itself in the future"
The Germany Of the present Gov.
eminent will not Sign the peace terms