New-York tribune., 1919-05-15

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dld not want to talk with him, even if
| had the time.
Did Not Seek Interview
When he says l called him on the
telephone and asked to see him, he
made false statement, and when he
says that he suggested that I come to
his office he made another false state
ment. l don't know where his office is
and ne did not suggest that 1 come to
ms ONCE He, in fact, urged that /
should see him even then, when /
talked to him on the telephone. and
wanted to know if l would not be back
at the end of the week, and / told him
| had to go home. l think that is in
here somewhere"
How long were you with Governor
Whitman on Saturday," asked SEN
ator Loring M. Black.
u went there at l o'clock, Senator.
arrived there exactly at / O'Clock, at
the prearranged time. l called him at
his room, and he said he would be right
down, and he was. Hes came right
down on the elevator and we immedi-
ately went into the room. Now, the
things l talked to him-maybe that is
unfair to him-the things | talked
about, in which 1 said they looked
different but tasted the same, were not
what the Governor feared, and some
folks might have thought l meant at
all. They were hors d'euvres, and
did not pronounce it before because the
way it reads on the programme is diff
ferent and l was little afraid to at
tempt the pronunciation. l was there
until about 3 o'clock, about an hour
and half to two hours"
Glynn Arranged Interview
Thompson then referred to his meet
ing with George A. Glynn when the lat
ter, he said, asked him to meet ex-
Governor Whitman He said he met
Glynn at the Republican Club on the
morning of March 20, while he was
breakfasting there
."Mr. Glynn," continued Thompson,
asked me if 1 had heard from Gov
ernor Whitman, and l told him l had
not. He said: The Governor wants
to see you at the st. Regis, and wants
you to lunch with him at l o'clock
He added: Can you do it?'
81 said. "Why, yes, l think l can
arrange it; what does he want to see
me for?' He said he did not know. |
said: Shall wait to heard from him :?
O'clock | said, All right, l will ar
range it,
y had an engagement that day with
John D. Rosenbrock, who came to my
room in the morning, and l told him
that had to go to lunch with the
Governor at l o'clock, and put off an
engagement with him until a o'clock.
Denies Alleged Conversation
II went to the St. Regis at 1 o'clock,
and as | came in saw Mrs. Whitman
going out with fur coat on She
did not speak to me, probably did not
see me- When l telephoned to the
room the Governor said he would be
right down, and came down almost
Immediately and took me directly to
the diningroom. Part of the conver-
sation has already been testified to.
He did not mention either Daven-
port or Burlingame in. the conversa-
tlon. Governor Hughes's name was
mentioned in relation to his argument
on the Carson-M Martin bill
Nothing was said about the amount
Of Mr.. Hughes's retainer or what he
got for going to Albany The phrase.
Charles the Baptist or anything like
it, was not used, and I do not remem-
Der that either one of us made any
quotations from scripture. When |
lett, the Governor attempted to get ME
to promise that | would see him the
next day or Monday. I did not promise
to see him. however. He asked me if
tial, and | said: 4 will consider your
name confidential, but | cannot regard
talks IN regard to legislation as CON
fidential.'
Again Refused His Support
81 did not call on him until the follow
ing Monday morning, and told him
could not change the bill and would
be obliged to oppose it. He wanted to
I 4,
and | told him | had to 90 to ALBANY
at 1880 and could not make it. He
wanted to know if ! would not be in
the city again the end of the week, and
told him | did not expect to as | had
to go home and | might be here Friday,
and he wanted to know if he could see
me if l came down Friday. l told him
did not know, as | did not know if |
was coming"
"In that conversation, did the ex-
Governor tell you he had been re-
tanned by the Interboro? ?" asked Mr..
Moss.
"He said he was not retained"
Already Knew Stanchfield
Senator Thompson, referring to ex-
Governor Whitman's testimony that he
had asked him to introduce him to
j ohm B. Stanchfield, fo1 nerly of coun-
sci to the lnterborough, and to use his
influence to get him into ,ahchheld's
law firm, said he had known Stanch-
held for years, and produced a letter
written by the lawyer to him moro
than two years ago.
Then you did not need Governor
Whitman to introduce you to Mr..
Stanchfeld ?" asked Mr.. Moss.
No" replied Senator Thompson,
"and l did not say anything to him
about it. either. And | did not want
to go into partnership with him.
During the course of his testimony
he referred to snecialists that he had
been having trouble with" matters
of legislation.
"Who are they?" asked Senator Bur-
lingame.
"Well, you have seen one or two of
them in this investigation"
"Surreptitious Specialists"
"No, but whom do you refer to when
you say these specialists? You must
have somebody in mind"
"Oh, | mean some one coming sur
reptitiously to talk about bill..'
"Well, who do you mean?"
well, for instance-do you want
the name?"
Yes"
"Well. I had Governor Whitman in
mind for one. And Mr.. Burke for an
other"
Senator Thompson then told of his !
showing the letter written to John D. |
Rockefeller to Burke early in January.
The latter he said Suppested that An