Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1919-09-02
THE PRESIDENT
AGAIN REFUSES
INFORMAL ON
TREATY To SENATE
Says Tentative Agreements
With Austria Hungary Tur-
key and Bulgaria Still in
Hands of Executive Solely,
RHINE OCCUPATION
TERMS ALSO SECRET
Senator Lodge Explains That
RhlneIand Matter Is Already
Public But Not With off,
CiaE Sanction,

CiaF Sanction,
lsN MORNING JOURNAL SPECIAL LEASED WIRE,
Washington, Sept. President
wilson declined today to give the SEN
ate foreign relations committee the
tentative drafts OF treaties with Aus
tria. InneaIy, Turkey and Bulgaria,
as requested by the committee, on the
ground that "it would tend to take
the function of negotiating treaties out
or the hands of the executive"
In n Letter to Chairman Lodge.
President Wilson said that as the
tret.tes still We're in process of nego-
ttation, he considered 1t "out of the
question to give the tentative drafts.
Senaor Lodge wrote in reply that the
committee had asked only for such
information as 1t would be compatible
with tie public interest TO giNl. and
al lel that the decision as In whether
II was eSpedient to give any informa-
tion about them at all undoubtedly
rested with the president.
At the same time. the president re-
fused the committees request for tn
dcclafetioE of June 16 signed by the
United States and other powers to GOV.
er military occupation of the Rhine.
"A certain degree of embarras,
ment," wou'G be caused, President
Wilson wrote, il the declaration we..
made public now.
Already Made Public.
Senator Lodge replied that tho dec
laration already had been printed in
the Congressional Record, having
reached members of the committee
through l}l''tisll sonrces, and .plsa had
been submitted to the houBn aC pon
mons July 4, The treaty with Poland
and another Rhine agreement, that or
June 2S, which also were asked for
werc sent to the senate by the presl-
dent last Friday.
The president wrote to Senator
Lodge:
"Allow me to acknowledge the re-
ceipt of your letter of August %, and
to say that l shall take pleasure in
laviug before the senate the treaty
with Pnuni, signed Mt Versailles Oh
tho 2Sth of June; and the agreement
between the United States, Belgium,
the British empire and France of the
one Tarl. ana Germany on the ether
Fart, with regard to the military oscu-
patton tf tie territories of the Ehlne,
also signed n Versailles on the 9Sth
Of June
Would Cause Embarrassment
''The declaration of the, 18th of
June to which you refer was a mere
declaration of policy, and does not be-
come in any way pertinent until the
treaty is ratified My impression is
that a certain degree Of embarRass-
mcnt would be caused. not to the
United States. but to the countries
with which we must necessarily CO.
operate In many particulars in the ex-
ecuticu of the treaty, If 1t were COM
municated now. II will. of course,
be made public in due time.
with regard to the treaties with
Austria, Hungary. Bulgaria and
Turkey 1t would be cut of the question
o submit them in their present form.
,ven to the committee on foreign re-
aticns, They are in process Of nego-
.iations are subject to change and re-
,.nsderation until completed and
signed. / am sure that the commit
ee on foreign relations will appreciate
he undcSirability of creating the pre-
'edent which would be created by
ubmitting treaties in their draft
orm. 1t would tend to take the
unction of negotiating treaties out
4 the hands of the executive, where
is expressly vested by the consti-
utiun."
The Reply of Lodge.
Senator Lodge replied:
81 am indebted to you for your let
er of August 2S, which reached me
asst evening l also haye to thank
ou for sending to the senate the
reaty with Poland. signed at Yer
allies on the 2Sth of June, and the
greement between the United States,
selgium and the British empire of ono
art, and Germany on the other part,
Nth regard to the military occupation
{ the territory of the Rhine, also
igned at Versailles on the 2Sth of
une. The declaration of the 18th of
une was printed sometime ago in the
ecord. from the English white
ook," the declaration having been
ubmtted to the house of commons
n the Fourth of July, believe. The
ommittee asked for it merely because
hey thought it would be better that
should be officially before them.
"As to the request of the commit
ee for drafts or information regard
lg the treaties with Austria, Hun
airy, Bulgaria and Turkey, the COM
1ittee of course were aware that ne
citations are wholly in the hands of
ne executive and there was no
nought of trespassing upon your jur-
'diction. You noticed. of course,
hat the request asked merely for
uch information as YOU could give
hem if 1t was not incompatible with
he public interest The four treaties
till to be made are so closely con-
lected with the German treaty that
many senators have thought that all
he peace treaties should be considered
.ogether and the request was made
merely for such Information as you
felt could be properly given in re-
gard to those treaties not yet sub
in the hone that 1t might hast
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