The sun., 1919-07-23

a. Yes, sir.
Q. When there was war, or when they
we're necessarily preparing for war?
A. No, there was debate then.
Q. Now. let US see, he says here: HE
who dissuades one man from volunteer
ing. or induces one man to desert, weak
ems the Unions cause as much as he who
kills a Union soldier in battle" You
recognize In that, don't you, Mr.. Ford.
that the propaganda any man puts
out
A. Yes. sir.
Q. to influence a man not to vol
unteer, or not to enlist, IL Just as in
furious to the cause of the country as
II Is to shoot one man in the line OF
battle?
A. When they are in war: yes, sir.
Q. In June, 1915. the President of the
United States. the Commander in Chief
Of the army OF the United States. called
out the National Guard, did he not1
A. Well. understand he did yes.
q. II was necessary. in order to NIL
the companies that were not filled, to
ask for volunteers, wasn't It?
A I don't know: suppose II was.
q. Then when the President called
out the army, the National Guard. which
Is a part of the army, to 60 down TO
Mexico to protect the citizens Of the
United States down there, isn't that the
same as a state of war;
A. No, don't think So
Q. What Is the difference?
A. We were not in war when we did
that.
Cannot Classify Mexican Fight.
Q. We were not in war? What dc
you call those people coming over from
Mexico, armed to the teeth and killing
our people. stealing their property
What do you call that7
A. don't know what to call Il.
Q. What do you call the attack OF
CarSanza soldiers on the Pershing SOL
diers over at Parral7
A. don't know.
O. When the troops of the Govern
ment itself attacked the American
troops, what do you call that7
A. 1 didn't know much about II. Mr..
Stevenson.
Q. I am satisfied to leave It, You
noted there, In the address of the Presi-
dent to Congress, that 1t was essential
from his point Of view, that the en-
ployers of labor should encourage the
that the country might be protected
didn't you?
A. noticed that yes, sir.
Q. Were you one urging your en-
ployees to enlist?
A. did not encourage or discourage
any one.
Q. Haven't you said frequently. Mr.
Ford. that you did lot believe in educa-
ton. higher education?
A. No, did not say that.
Q. That you didn't believe in college,
and universities?
A No, never said that.
Refers to Monroe Doctrine.
Q. And that you refused to allow your
own son to attend them7
A. No, sir.
Q. Did he attend?
A. No, he did not; It was his owr
doings.
Q. Haven't you said that universities
and colleges turned out loafers?
A. No. never did.
Q. There is reference here. Mr.
Ford. to some of these messages and
speeches to the Monroe Doctrine. YOU
know what that is, of course?
A. 1t is a big brother act, guess
Q. A big brother act2 What do you
mean by that?
A Help the other; help the Western
Hemisphere.
Q. Isn't il to keep the rest Of the
world out OF the Western Hemisphere?
A. think so.
Q. Do you regard that inimical to the
interests OF the United States?
A. l don't know as to that.
Q. just refer to this to centre your
attention to II, Mr.. Ford, to ask thif
question: Did you not state at a lunch
con table to Mr.. Wood, in the presence
OF Mr.. Esselstyn and your son. that ir
case OF an invasion OF this country YOU
would not make one dollars worth OF
munitions or arms for the Government