The Washington times., 1919-12-30
PULLMAN GR|LLED
AT TRIAL OF WAN
Police Chief Denies "Third De-
gree" Was Used to Get
Confession"

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confession"
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II do not think the words were
used"
Asked why Wan. upon his arrival
from New York with Detective Sergts.
Guy e. Burlingame and Edward j.
Kelly. was taken to the clinic Of the
Public Health Service, at j40s Fiji
teenth street northwest, Major Pull
mar. said 1t was because Of the pri
vacy 1t afforded"
IVAN was not a prisoner" said
Major Pullman, "and he had been
promised fair treatment IL he returned
to Washington to help clear up the
triple murder. There was no occasion
for US to lock him UP at that time,
and we desired to keep him away
from the curious and others who had
business in the District building
Last Man at House.
why did you send to New York;
Tor Wan?'
"Well. when we learned that he was
the last man seen alive in the mis-
sion house. we felt he would be val
liable to US In helping clear up the
mysterious deaths. That's practically
the only reason, except we knew he
had been a friend Of the sIain Chinese
mission members, and. thought he
would be anxious to ferret out the
guilty parties"
did you give orders that Wan was
to be guarded by policemen while he
was guest at the Dewey Hotei?"
"Yes. three policemen weAre alter
natelv stationed at his rooni."
"Why?'
1--WE had D. omised to care for Wan.
and for that reason had the police
men on hand should he want them"
Did you permit Wan to take any
exercise?"
He never asked for any. 1t would
have been perfectly safe to give him
exercise should be have desired it."
Did Not Catechize Wan.
'Did you ask il he believed in God?''
"No. I don't recall asking that
question. l did not see any occasion
for asking hi mthat question as he
had told me he had. attended t. Johns
College, at Shanghai, China. which is
under the auspices of the Episcopal
church. He told me he was a Chris
tian.
All through the cross-examination,
which probably I'ill continue over to
tomorrow, Majoe Pullman retained an
even poise anL seemed not the least
ruffied by the forcible manner in
which Attorney O'Shea fired questions
at him. /e cody replied in an even
tone, to the amusement OF many.
Attorney O'Shea placed great stress
on the fact that Tsong Ing Van,
brother Of Wan. was confined at the
Dewey Hotel, and that neither was
permitted to see the other until six
months after their arrival from New
York.
"What was your reason for not
permitting the zrothers to see each
other" asked O'Shea.
Feared Chinese Trick.
1--WE did not know the Chinese lam
guage, and thought that If they knew
anything about the crime that they
night try to cover 1t up" said Major
Pullman.
I'VE also felt we could make more
progress in investigating the case by
keeping the brothers separated for a
time"
When Wan was taken to the mis-.
sion house, was he not showed photo
=
Slain mission members"
Yes, he asked to see them. Wan
was anxious to know all the details
of the shooting. He did most of the
questioning. particularly q sto where
the pistol was found"
shown Blood Stains.
"Did you show him blood stains and
5lood-smeared finger prints?"
IT don't recall, but maybe they were
shown to him.
"Was not the murder re-enacted to
Wan for the purpose of getting him
to confess? Were not the photographs
of the bodies and the blood stains
showed him at the same time, in an
effort to obtain confession of guilt
from him."
mo, we did not at any time do any.
thing to get an involuntary statement
from Wan"
Hid Ii In Closet.
AT what vantage point was Kang
Ii when you were questioning the
brothers in the mission housc?"
81 believe Lo was in a closet. or an
alcovc-I don't remember exactly. He
vas put there to interpret any chinese
that the brothers spoke relative to
he crime"
Attorney OShea apparently at
tempted to bring out that the police
had secreted Ii in the closet for the
purpose of spying on the brothers
should they make any discriminating
statement. Major Pullman, however,
denied that the brothers had spoken
in Chinese, at least in his presence
Grant Denied "Third Degree"
With the admission to the record
~
statements alleged to have been made
to- Inspector Clifford L. Grant, chief
Of detectives, by Wan, the Govern
ment today believes it has practically
clinched its case against the Chinese
student.
Following a grueling cross-exam-
ination at the hands of Attorney
O'Shea, Inspector Grant left \the
witness stand at 3 o'clock yesterday