New-York tribune., 1919-05-10
Says Clyn, Told Him
ThOn1psOra You'd Come

Q.-That is unquestioned but did
you say you would see him? Al
said expected to see him, think.
Q.-You said you expected to see
him? Al had already expected to
see him.
Q.-Had you taken any measures to
see Senator Thompson? Al had not
taken measures to see Senator Thomp-
son, but as I recall it Mr.. Glynn, the
chairman of the state committee, had
told me as / testified before. that
Senators-members of the Legislature
would be down in the. city at the
parade of the 9th Division, that he
wanted me to talk to Senator Thomp-
son and one or two others-ho did
not mention the others; that Senator
Thompson was away, as he expressed
after he talked with him, that it rnight
be good thing if would see him and
talk things over, or words to that ef-
feet. That was probably Monday or
Tuesday before. / told Mr. Glynn
would be glad to see any of them, and
| would be very glad to see Thompson,
II he cared to come to see me. Mr.
Glynn said, II will ask him." or words
to that effect | did tell Mr.. Quicken
bush, and think I told Mr.. Shonts-
am not sure of it--that I would be
Thompson about the bill, and / would
be very glad to talk with Senator
Davenport about the bill, as l certain
ly was.
Did Not Suggest 1t
Q.-Well, why did you suggest that
you would see Senator Thompson {?
Al did not suggest it. l told him
that I expected to see Senator Tnomp-
son.
Q.-Didn't you consider yourself
retained by the company, at the close
of that conversation with Mr.. Quacken-
bush on the 2Sth Of March, the
promised to send it to you. A.--On
the 28th?
Q.-Yes. Al should say yes.
Q.-And that was the day before the
conversation with Thompson?
A.-That was the day before. l say
we. were employed, but the retainer
had not come.
Q.-Well, did you think you would
be. rendering services under that re-
tainer by talking to Senator Thomson
and Senator Davenport? A.-No, air,
did not
Q.-Why not?
A:--Because we were not retained
for lobbying purposes. I was perfect
ly willing to talk to Senator Thomp-
son about the bill.
Shifts to Perkins Nomination
At this point Mr.. Moss shifted to the
special legislative session in the sum-
mer and OF fall Of 1917. when Governor
Whitman unsuccessfully tried to have
George W. Perkins confirmed by the
Senate as State Food Commi ssioner
Mr.. Moss asked him if he recalled the
debates on the question in the Senate,
and Mr.. Whitman said he remembered
there were some debates.
do you remember, or did you hear,
Of Senator Henry M. Sage standing up
there in the Senate on the second day
OF October and objecting to the secret
use Of money in connection with that
candidacy?" asked Mr.. Moss.
"Not at all, no." replied the witness.
Then he asked: "The secret use Of
money in connection with Mr.. Per-
kins's campaign"
I'm connection with the movement
to have the. Senate confirm Mr.. Per-
kins," explained Mr.. Moss.
"1 never heard Of such thing" was
the reply.
did you know of the statement
made in open debate by Senator Sage
Of the use Of money to buy people for
Mr.. Perkins?'
Objects to Question
ME- Whitman looked at Chairman
Burlingame. and said he objected to
the question.
Chairman Burlingame asked Mr..
Moss to read into the record the Of
| flcial minutes Of the Senate. Mr. Moss
said he did not have them.
II have some extracts from it and
what l was reading was the use Of
money to buy people," added Mr.. Moss.
Chairman Burlihgame observed that