The sun., 1919-07-17

continual bsnditry and anarchy in Mex.
leo ever since, hasn't there7
A. And I was asked to contribute
money 10 help create II.
Q. What do you call anarchy
A. overthrowing the Government,
throwing bombs.
Definition of Anarchy.
@. What?
overthrowing tho Government and
throwing bombs.
q. That Is what you call anarchy7
A Certainly. What else?
Q. Do you recall this:
1T would be tedious to recount In
stance after instance. outrage after out
rage. atrocity after atrocity, to illustrats
the true nature and extent OF tho wide
spread conditions Of lawlessness and
violence, which have prevailed. During
the last nine months In particular the
frontier of the United States along the
lower Rio Grande has been thrown into
q state of constant apprehension and
turmoil because of frequent and sudden
incursions into American territory and
depredations and murders on American
soil by Mexican bandits, who have taken
the lives and destroyed the property OF
American citizens, sometimes carrying
American citizens across the interna-
uonal boundary with booty seized"
Q. You knew that, didn't your
A. knew that l had been asked ia
contribute money to Just those things
Mr.. Stevenson.
Q. Do you persist in making an ir-
responsive answer to my question?
A. That Is what started me Off against
militarisnn. IL was just this: had been
asked TO contribute money to the cost
OF this thing that he is talking about
In Mexico.
o. Tell US how II was that you were
Invited to contribute money; who wal
It that invited you to contribute money
A. don't remember that. I don't
know that.
@. Now. you tell us who II was that
invited you to contribute money. That
was very extraordinary thing. wasn't
It. Mr.. Ford? co..
A. No, II wss not.
q. II was not sn unusual thing for
you to be invited?
often Asked to Contribute.
A. No, a ruai thing to be done.
O.. To contribute money to start re-
bellion, was TT
A. don't think they told me theii
Q. Did you ever have such an expert
ence before?
A. No. sir.
Q. Or since?
A. No, sir.
Q. we'll. then. that being an isolated
situation, and starting you of on pre-
psredness, pisase tell uB who It was that
invited you.
A. Once In California and once in De-
troit.
Q. Please tell us who It wasr
A. don't know who II was, and ]
don't know whether they gave me the
right name or not.
Q. You haven't any idea who II was?
4. No.
Q. What name did they give you then 7
A. don't remember.
q. You cannot tell US?
A. can't remember the name they
gave me. but II il
Q. You told Mr.. Wood. In the inter-
view that he had with you, about thie
being invited to Join In financing q re-
oellion in Mexico7
a. don't remember much about that
Q. Didn't you say that there were two
men that you could name to me?
A. I don't think told him that !
could name two men.
Three Bankers started War.
Q. And didn't you say that you could
maine three bankers who started the
European war;
A I don't remember. ,--'
q. II you did say so was II true?
A. Al that time I may have known
something. or thought knew something,
about It,
O. Did you know any three bankers
that started any war?
A. I don't know whether did or not
Think that perhaps
Q. II you did, please tell us who they
were?
A. don't know who they were.
C. You cannot give us a single name
Of banker whom you referred to nor the
men who invited you TO Join In putting
W money to start a rebellion in Mexico
A. I cannot tell very much about what
Mr.. Wood says.
O. What did you mean by that
A. don't think he was telling the
truth.
Q. In what particular did he not tell
the truth?
A. think he came out here 10 say
that I said 10 and so.
O. Well, that didn't make you say It,
did II?
A. wasn't very particular OF what l
said 10 him. I suppose.
O. You were not very particular? You
said n lot OF thinga to him. didn't you?
A. I don't know.
O. You invited him TO luncheon?
A. Yes. sir.
@. He looked like a gentleman,
didn't he7
A. don't know.
Q. Let US have your idea?
Like a Financial Slave.
A. He didn't look like a man to me
that was free,
Q. That was free7 What was there
about him that didn't look like he was
free? Did he look like a slave?
A. Yes. sir.
q. What do you mean?
A. A slave to the fnanciers.
O. What made you think that7
A. From the things that he said.
Q. What did he say that made you
think he was a slave OF the financiers?
A. don't remember Just what he
said.
Q. Now tell us. You made these
like you do about everybody being a
murderer who was for preparedness.
Tell us what there was that he "a Id
that made you think that?
Judge Murphy-That question Is OBJ
jected to. for the comment that II con-
tains.
Tho Court think l will let II stand
Just as II is.
Mr.. Luckng-I move that that be
stricken out as wholly unjustihed II
contains moro than We thought II con-
tained. There Isn't truth in the state