The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-07-18

q. Have you ever mentioned from that
time to this, or have you ever oues-
toned the accuracy OF Mr.. Woods
statement untf here on this witness
stand7
. A. Yes, sir, I have.
| Q. when7
| A. don't remember when.
| q. Where and how7
A. don't know. I don't remember.
Used in Senatorial Fight.
| q. Was II In the Senatorial campaign
| A. I don't remember.
Q, Was II published In the Senatorial
campaign?
| A. No; didn't pay any attention to
the Senatorial campaign.
| Q. Was not that statement published
in the Senatorial campaign. that you
| had said you were going to take down
| the American nag from over your fac
| tory AZ soon as the war was over and
put in its place q World nag. that there
would be no more American fags on
| your
A didn't pay much attention to the
campaign.
@. DID you over deny Il when Il was
published during the campaign
A. I don't think 90.
| Q. You had confidence in Mr.. Della
vigne. didn't your
| A. Yes, sir.
| O. You say he was your representa-
tive and you were responsible for what
he said7
\ A. Yes.
1 Q. SO that when you knew that Mr.
| Wood had made this statement before
public gathering in your homo city, did
Mr.. Delavisne say. Mr.. Ford, after
reading the story Of your address as
printed In the Free Prose. has requested
me to mail you the enclosed editorial
from the Detroit Ne,os. This Mr.. Ford
l deems all that IL necessary in answer
to your very interesting disclosure of
his interview with you. and for which he
Is deeply grateful"
| A don't think anything about the
letter. know that he wrote II; sent Il
out
Q. Do you think that Mr.. Delavisne
would have made that statement II that
were not true?
| A. don't know.
Letter Read in Evidence.
Mr.. Stevenson--I was not sure that
the material that was enclosed in tho
letter was read in evidence, but counsel
says that Il has been. The answer that
Delnvigne enclosed was an editorial
from the Detroit Evenino Netos, to an
swer Mr.. Woods argument on the ques-
ton OF preparedness. do you recall that
A. do not remember.
Q. Perhaps this will refresh your
recollection. am not reading Il all,
but II It is desired. I will read It. tReads. ]
''For the United States to enter war
would be to pour q flood Of oil on the
confagration.
Germany Is succeeding IN setting
forth his cause distinctly and It fs
dawning on the American mind that, SO
Tar as method goes. the sins of the
| warning nations balance one and an
| other rather evenly. War is a repudia-
ton OF law. and President Wilson has
done we'll to emphasize his appeal to the
laws Of humanity rather than to the
specious and fragile laws Of interna-
tional warfare" Does that express
your sentiments?
A. don't remember anything about
the editorial or the letter.
| Q. Does that express your sentime nts !?
| A. Yes.
Q. want to see. Mr.. Ford, whether
You. on reflection. want to adhere to
what you said yesterday about Mr.,
Wood. that he was a slave to the inter-
ests?
Didn't Mean . Slave.
| A. Well. I did not mean a slave--you
said he was slave--I didn't mean a
slave; meant that he was bound by the
interests In q way.
| Q. That he was not a free man and
controlled by tho interests, Is that what
you meantH
| A. To certain extent, yes. sir.
| Q. Do you know of any interest that
| he was tied up to in any way?
A. / don't know OF any; no, sir.
Q. Did you ever hear Of any?
| A. Nothing that I know Of have
since; Just a day or two ago. a letter
came in.
Q. Where is the letter?
| A. 1t is over in Mr.. Liebolds Office,
| y. saying that he was tied up to the
interests7
| A Don't know about saying tina. he
was; 1t was saying he is now. that is
| all.
Q. But you made statement based on
nothing
A. considered that all people who
wanted overpreparedness were tied I'D
with the interests
Q. You considered that all people that
wanted Preparedness
A. That wanted overpreparedness.
| Q. Were tied up with the interests?
| a Overpreparedness-we tied I'D
with the interests.
q. You heard yesterday that the Pres
ident OF the United States wanted more
preparedness. didn't he?
A Yes. sir It was read here.
risd Up with Interests.
Q. You mean to say that he was tied
up with the interests, too?
A. didn't mean TO say that, particu-
lerly.
Q. How do you distinguish between the
PRESIDENT and Mr. Wood: they were
both advocating the same thing. weren't
they?
A Well. they were advocating pre-
paredness, yes. sir.
q. Both the same. practically wanted
inc same results and you said that Mr..
Wood. because he said that, was tied up
with the interests. in your opinion?
A. As recall It, Mr.. Wood came over
and We talked about factories now.
Q. Now don't divert, unless you re-
gard It as necessary and responsive. I
am talking about Mr. Wood : let US .inish
with him. Now. will ask you again.
isn't II true. Mr.. Ford, that without
knowing single thing to the effect that
Mr.. Wood was tied Up with any interest
whatever. that you. on the witness stand,
made the charge. without any knowi-
edge or Information on the subject at
all1
A. may have heard that he vas
playing politics a little; I thought 30.
Q. Who was playing politics, the Pres.
ident?
A. was talking about Mr.. Wood
Q. You put him in the same class