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granting the increases TO the employees
had trucltled to the brotherhoods."
. Representative WinGo, Democrat
tArk.), sought to have Mr.. Blanton's ref
erence TO Congress expunged from the
Record, but on roll call the House nm eff
feet sustained the charges by voting 1876
to 81 TO keep the remarks In the Record.
The brotherhoods now coma to the
President and Congress and after receiv-
ing $3.50. 900, 900 in Increased wages ask
for billion more" Mr.. Blanton said
"and they threaten that unless this is
granted-I now quote the words OF b.
M. Jewel, acting president Of the rail-
way employees department OF the Amer
lean Federation Of Labor--'they will
rew up the railroads 30 tight they will
never run again Are we going to be
men or are we going TO surrender TO
this plundering Plumb planT'
Mr.. Blanton introduced resolution IN
the House declaring that state OF an
archy existed in the country and author
lied the President to use the entire
armed forces of the country to destroy
It. "As n result of open brigandage
hitherto tolerated demands have been
made upon the Government Of the United
States to pay out of the peoples treasury
into the hands of special class public
money to the extent OF billions OF doll
lars with threat of revolution against
the Government unless such demands are
complied with. which conditions create
and establish state of anarchy in the
United States" the resolution declared.
II may be committing lese majestic,
hut I accuse Congress- of trucking to
the brptherhoods. and although we be-
lieve Woodrow Wilson the greatest man
in the world to-day he made the most
colossal blunder of his administration
when he asked for the Adamson law"
Mr.. Blanton concluded.
Sought wilson's Views.
Later Representative Sanders sought
to obtain from Mr.. Plumb the Presi-
dents views of his plan.
do you think the President had the
Plumb plan in mind when he recently
spoke Of characterization OF Industry
Mr.. Sanders asked.
I'VE were delighted to fnd what we
thought was the same idea." Mr.. Plumb
stated. "but I don't know whether he
meant to express approval Of the plan,
although feel sure his statement favors
the principle of IL. However, I have
had no conferences with the President"
Mr.. Winslow asked Mr.. Plumb since
he favored an equal opportunity for all
workers IL he would favor the open shop
policy under his plan.
1.-The function Of labor unions under
the programme would be changed and
labor would not have to be organized
to obtain better conditions, but they
would be needed Just as political parties
are needed in democracy" Mr.. Plumb
declared.
Would you have the civil service to
Af6nianCv n
ployeesr'
1.-THE civil service Is only a political
organization" was Mr.. Plumb's asser-
ton.
In answer to questions Mr.. Plumb said
he would set aside 10 cents Of the rail-
road dollar under his plan for operating
expenses. 20 cents for fixed charges. in
Guiding the sinking fund, and 10 cents as
bonus to the employees and the public
He surprised the committee by stat
ing he did not favor Government owner
ship and operation. but Government
ownership and public operation"
Discounts "Gooa WILL"
for the valuation of railroad properties
he would make no allowances for the
good will many lines have built up
Answering questions as TO what rail-
roads have issued stock to a larger
amount than their actual investment,
Mr.. Plumb mentioned the Chicago and
Alton, the Southern Pacific and the
Kansas City Southern. Corporations In
the States of Illinois. Missouri. Ken
tncky. Pennsylvania, Louisiana, Missis-
sippi. Alabama. Texas. Colorado and
South Dakota. California. Washington.
North Dakota and Oregon have been
able to carry out the same practices
because of lax laws. he claimed.
But do you know Of any management
anywhere like yours having been tried
and found successful?" Mr.. winslow
asked.
mo. but II was tried out on a small
street car line in Chicago that had alb
solute control OF some years ago." Mr..
Plumb replied.
But IL you had absolute control that
Is not characterization" Representative
Montague (Va.) interposed.
II called in the employees. and by con-
sulting them promoted efficiency" said
Mr.. Plumb.
But did you divide up procts? Mr..
Montague asked.
Yes"
"But did you not increase rates to
do itr'
"I did"
"well, that puts an entirely different
light on the matter" Mr.. Montague con-
cluded.