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Q. The Government.
A. don't know anything about It.
Q. You don't know anything about It?
You know 1t takes q considerable time,
don't your
A. don't know
Q. Gen. Weaver further states. which
you did not publish:
The defence of the whole shore line
is made up OF three parts 1t Is trinity.
1t Is the navy, the coast defence and the
mobile army. II you knock out any one
Of these props the superstructure falls or
Is unstable"
A. I didn't know he said ~.
Q. You didn't know that Gen. Weave
testified to It?
Responsibility on Delavisne.
A. No. 1 told Mr.. Delavigne to get all
the facts he could and to stick to the
facts.
9. But that is an important omission
A. II he did not stick to the facts.
why. am responsible.
Q. That. Is an important omission.
isn't It?
(Objected to as incompetent.)
The Court-That Is a matter for argu-
ment It seems to me.
Judge Murphy-That is objected to as
already covered by Mr.. Ford's own an
swer.
The Court-Possibly that may be; We
will take the answer. Do you remember
whether that was covered or not, Mr.
Ford?
A. All 1 can say is that 1 warned Mr.
Delavigne to stick absolutely to the
truth II he left'out anything 1t Is my
fault.
q. You knew that there was nothing in
what was published about mobile
army?
A. 1 knew there was great debates in
paredness.
q. This was not a debate in Congress
this was the testimony of Gen. Weaver.
A. Testimony?
Q. OF Cen Weaver. before an investi-
eating committee.
Didn't Know 1t Was Testimony.
A. did not know it was testimony
at all.
O. You did not know 1t was testimony
Of Cen Weaver before a committee?
A No, sir.
O. 1 understood, perhaps you Will
agree with me, that when the President
or Secretary Of War makes recommen-
tions for military or naval purposes.
that that is referred to the Committee
on Military Affairs. in the House or
Senate, as the case may be?
A Yes.
O. And they call before the committee
the officials of the Government who
ought to know about the conditions. to
advise them, to instruct them as to the
cor ditions?
A. Yes.
q. So that they may act intelligently?
A. Yes.
O. That Gen. Weaver was before the
House Committee on Military Affairs
that was investigating the question an
to whether the recommendations of the
President and the Secretary Of War
we're asking for increased appropriations
for army purposes and naval purposes
should be granted?
A. suppose Mr.. Delavigne under
stood 1t.
Q. You read that part of 1t, didn't
you? Or didn't you read any OF 1t?
A. / don't think l read very much
Of II
Object of His Propaganda. -
Q. You want this jury to understand.
ana the world to understand, that you
Put out this great advertisement. this
great propaganda. this great educa-
tional campaign, to instruct the people
of the United States as to their duties
in connection with favoring or not IA
,oring appropriations for an increased
army and navy, and you did not know
what you were putting outs that the
way you wish to be understood?
A. told him to stick to his facts.
Q. Then you mean that you did not
| know what did go?
A.. No, sir.
@ Then you were instructing and
| educating the people of the United
States and did not know whether the
focts you were sending out were true
| or false?
A. 1 thought they were true.
Q. But you did not know whether
| they were or not?
A. was not sure. I just thought
| they were; put II to his honesty, which
| had not occasion to question.
Q. Are you charging Mr.. Delavigns
with dishonesty In not putting in those
things?
| A. No. sir: never had any occasion
to question his honesty.
| Q. Then you don't know Of any rca'
son why these things were excluded
from the advertisement?
/
| Q. Although you recognize that the,
| ought to have been there.
A. l do now.
Q. You heard what I read about q
mobile army being necessary to support
when an attack is made?
| A Yes, sir.
| Mobile Army Large" One.
Q. Did you understand what a mobil,
army was?
| A. Yes. a large army.
| Q. What?
| A. A large army modified.
| Q. A large army modified? Is tina
your notion of a mobile army?
| A. An army ready to be modified.
Q. That was your understanding abou
a mobile army?
A. don't know.
Q. JUS. a large army modified?
| A. don't know very much abou
militarism.
Q. You talked a great deal abou
1t in your advertisements, didn't you?
| A. Yes.
@. understand. Mr.. Ford. that
mobile army is an army that can b'
moved quickly?
A. That Is what ] understand.
Q. We will leave 1t that way. Tha
Is all you know about a mobile army?
| A. That Is about all l know.
| Q. That IL all you knew or know
In the case of coast defence?
A. That is all. yes.
q. II that is all you claim TO know
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