The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-09-27
DIVYY FOR FIXING
INSURANCE $3.50
Clerk in State Fund Office
Tells of Deal Involving
$3,401 Death Award.
EVIDENCE WAS "FRAMEDv
Light Shed on Premium Debts
of By Products Company
Totalling $1,000.

clerk in the office of the State In
surance Fund got $3.50 for, himself and
three others for securing an award Of
,3,401 to a mother for the accidental
death of her son while he was at work.
This was one of the interesting bits
of testimony adduced yesterday at the
investigation of the management and
affairs OF the State Industrial Commits
sion before jeremiah F. Conner, Com
missioner appointed by Gov. Smith.
the man who got the money, Will
lam A. Herman. told the story cooly
on the stand. and his testimony aroused
little interest, for those who are con-
cerned in the investigation know that
more startling revelations are promised
for the future. The names of Herman s
three friends" are withheld because
the transaction is now before the Dis
trict Attorney. Herman himself, how
ever. is not worrying about jail, for he
is more valuable outside than in during
the Investigation.
The $3.401 was awarded to Mrs. aims
>Loe, mother of Charles Loe. a workman
employed by the Underpinning and
Foundation Company. In his testimony
yesterday. Herman told of being visited b.
William Loe, brother of the dead man
who wanted to know whether his mother
was entitled to any money.
HE stated to me-" said Herman. "tha
all he knew of any sums contributed to
ward the support of his mother were tw,
sums of S. each, which were applied a
| payment on a piano. I went into thi
case in detail with him and then told hin
that In my opinion there was no proof o
dependency at all. He came in a day o
two later and then told me that hi
| brother and himself had been drafted
He said his mother had no means o
support and he would like to know
this thing could not be fixed up In som
way so that the mother would get som
| money. So told him I would conside
1t and let him know, and told him L
come back again.
Under the questioning Of Miles NJ
Dawson. counsel. Herman told how h
had conferred with Harry jacobson, on
| of his assistants. and with an examine
In the death department.
Must Forget Information.
after the next visit of William I,oe
told him that the information he ha,
given me at the previous visit he woul,
have to forget. and he should give to al
| investigator whom would send nj
there information which would estab
| .iSit a. case OIL utpenuenCy.
He said. Would the commission
| grant lump sum instead of regula
payments II my motner wanted to blu,
| a houseT I told him believed the
would He said. Well. will take car
| OF that and I will be back again.
What arrangements were made, |
any. with William Loe as regards an,
6ivvy In this matter?" asked Mr.. Daw
son,
Toe told me at the time the rea
| estate matter was discussed that he di
| not want this done for nothing and tina
, II would help him to put this throug
he would pay me one-quarter of tn
amount"
| That would be about how much?"
That did not materlalze The da
after he received his check he came t
the Office and told me he had change
his mind about that arrangement an
wanted to reduce It. told him to us
his own Judgment. So he paid me $3.50.
WAS this all retained by your"
persons"
Mrs. Loe testified that she was d.
pendent upon her son, and that he pal
her $50 month. She said her son too
$500 of the amount awarded her, sayin
he needed It for Something"
| During the day F. Spencer Baldwin
manager OF the State fund, was on an
off the stand several times THROWN
light upon matters which Mr.. Dawso
thought light should be thrown upon.
Owed State $4,000.
The account of the Metropolitan B,
Products Company with the State Ii
surance Fund occupied part of the morr
Ing session 1t developed that til
company owed the State for premium
more than $1,000. OF this sum S24
4s7.e3 was owed at the time the con
pany went into receivership and the r,
mainder of the debt was contracte
after the receivership.
r. 7. Black. formerly acting assis
ant manager of the State InsuranC
Fund, who later took a position wit
the Wynkoop Service. denied categor
cally the testimony of Nicholas w. Mu
Ter on Wednesday that employers II
sured in the State Insurance Fund an
the Wynkoop Service had access to II
files. He testified that on one occasio
Re himself gave the folder of the Cutl,
Desk Company to Mr.. Wynkoop b,
cause there were some matters whic
needed to be taken up with the con
2any. The folder was given TO NJ
Wynkoop so that he might straighte
out matters. d.
The hearing VIII be continued Nor
day at p. M.
BIG ELECTRIC MERGER O. XII