The sun., 1919-02-05
$4,000 Raised by DR.. Albert
for American Truth Orsani-
cation Paid in Driblets.
DEFENDANT GOT NONE
Arthur Weiner, Artist, Makes
Admission on Government
CrOss-examination.

In president, and how the money was
sent anonymously and in varying amount
by messenger to the organizations
yesterday in oLeary's trial before Fed
sral Judge Augustus n. Hand. The
American Truth Society IL also a de-
PENDANT to indictments charging con-
spiracy to violate the espionage law.
~ a legal faux pas which amused
the Government prosecutors O'Leary's
counsel brought out on cross-examina-
ton Of the witness who told Of the exist
encs of the fund that jeremiah OLeary
himself knew Of this fund
The witness was Arthur weiner. an
artist with an Office in Aeolian Hall and
who was interned ten days ago by off,
Gals OF tho Department OF Justice.
Weiner said he arranged a meeting be-
tween Or. Albert and O'Leary in 1915
and that later DR.. Albert told him ne
had collected a fund OF $4,000 against
which he tweiner) might draw as he
saw nt He said he sent the money in
amounts OF from 5000 to 800 to ono
DopslafY. treasurer Of the American
Truth Society In Hoooken.
On cross-exam ination Col. Thomas B.
Fielder. chief OF O'Leary's counsel. sought
to complete tho record OF the witness
which UP to that time had not estab
iishsd any connection between O'Leary
and the Heinrich Albert fund.
Gave No Money TO O'Leary.
did you pay any Of that money to
the defendant O'Leary?" Col Fielder
asked. The defendant replied that he
did not
And as far as you know o'Leary re-
csived none Of it7'' NO. replied the
witness
Col Fielder sat down and Arthur
tion.
And as far as you know o'Leary
knew nothing about it?"
WELL" said weiner. IT couldn't say
that; told him about It"
Rudolph Cronau. a naturalized Ger
man. told of efforts he made in OLeary's
behalf TO interest Count Won Bernstorff
and DR.. Bernard Dernburg In a maya
zine that would present "the proper
viewpoint" about the war to the Ameri.
can people. On top OF this O'Leary and
Col Fielder had several verbal passages
following O'Learys continuous stream
OF suggestions to his counsel during
cross-examination. and one OF these ter
minated by Col. Fielder taking his seat
af.3 remarking: I'm doing the best l
can with an experience Of thirty-nve
years at the bar. II you think you can
do any better go ahead and do it."
Weiner came to this country in 1911.
He said he saw O'Leary when the de-
PENDANT made a speech on The Ameri-
can Question at Terrace Garden and
later At Carnegie Hall. Weiner added
that after hearing O'Leary he made sew.
ersl attempts to get in touch with him on
the telephone, and after some weeks was
successful He said O'Leary invited him
down to his ONCE In Park Row and he
went down there to see him. In reply
10 James w. Osborne ID. the Govern
ment prosecutor. ne said the CONVERSE
ton on this occasion had 10 do with the
attitude OF the American papers on the
war and that OLeary expressed regret
that COMMUNICATIONS were not more
concerned over the situation. The wit
ness added that in his opinion OLeary
spol0e rather harshly" OF the German
Americans
Arranged . Meeting.
weiner said he told O'Leary he knew
some German-Americans OF different
ideas and that he could put O'Leary into
touch with them. Accordingly. he said
he arranged a meeting early in 1915 at
the Hofbrau. in Broadway. at which
O'L6ary spoke on the attitude OF the
press and the scope Of the American
Truth Society.
''Who were present at that meetins7"
Mr.. Osborne asked.
weiner replied there were about fifteen
and he couldn't remember them all
TELL US those you can remember"
We'll. there was William Knauth,
Otto Helms. Carl Neuhon. DR.. Herbert
kienzle, Karl Frank. DR.. Kurt Elsner
and Mr. Sachs. a brother OF Robert
Sachs, He's dead now"
Pressed by the Government for an
Identification OF some Of the names he
mentioned as present Weiner said
knauth was a banker and Helms presi-
dent OF the Bosch Magnetic Company.
According to the Government officials the
Kienzle referred TO was the same Kienzle
who was subsequently indicted with
Robert Fay for his part In plot to blow
up munition ships leaving New York
harbcr by attaching time bombs to their
rudders.
Weiner said the subject discussed was
the best possible way to get the news
papers to discuss all phases Of the war
and that 1t was decided this might best
be achieved by holding a series OF pub
lie forums. The Government later
brought out that some OF these forums
were held and that the discussion sub
jects included the American newspapers,
the expectation OF munitions and the
subject of neutrality.
Lusitsnia Subject Dropped.
The witness said O'Ieary and he both ,
opposed the suggestion OF a forum on |
The sinking Of the Lusitania, and that |
O'Leary told him the state OF tho public !
mind made It unwiee TO hold the forum |
that was planned on that subject and |
which was eventually abandoned. In |
reply to question from Mr.. Osborne |
the witness said subscriptions for the |
support of these forums had been asked |
for at this meeting and a list passed |
around.
Did you contribute anything"
Il contributed s25 personally" said |
Weiner.
did you contribute any other
money!"
IT contributed $4,000. which received
through DR.. Albert"
Who was DR.. Alberto"
He was the commercial attache OF |
the German Embassy"
How did you get the money!
Il got II In two checks from DR.. Al !.
bert's office"
The Government established the |
roundabout way In which the 5000 !
passed from DR. Albert to the treasury |
OF the American Truth Society in Ho- |
boken. The witness said ne received
tho money IN two checks which he de-
posted TO his own personal account
that he withdrew It later In various !
amounts and sent II in cash by mes |
senger 10 Hoboken
Cronau said he was the author OF a !