The Birmingham age-herald., 1919-07-31
PRESIDENT AGAIN DISCUSSES TREATY
 WITH REPUBLICAN
 SENATE MEMBERS
Wilson Told Unreserved Ratification Impossible, But Reiterates Ayerson
 to Change or Quail
 fication in Treaty
By Assoclatsd Pros,

By Associated Prcss
 Washington, July 30.-The peace treaty with Germany was discussed by President Wilson today with four more republican senators, all of them understood to be unwill- ing to accept the league of na- tions in it's present form.
 Some of the Presidents callers are understood to have told him unreserved ratification was impossible, and Mir Wilson reiterated his aversion to any change or qualification which might reopen diplomatic negotiations. Each of tho senators indicated afterward that his views had not been changed
 In turn the President saw Senators Dillingham;. Vermont; Harding, Ohio; Fernald, Maine; and Lenroot, Wiscon- sin. He talked for an hour with each of them. Ncne would discuss his con versation~ with the President in de- tail, but Senator Harding, who is member of the foreign relations com mittee, made a brief statement saying Mir. Wilson had emphasized the possi- bi1ity that Senate reservations might encourage other nations to quality their acceptance of the league.
 Tomorrow the President will see three other republican senators, while 
 treaty and the foreign relations com mittee begins public hearings on the economic sections with Bernard Ba- ruch. an adviser to the American peace delegation, as the first witness.
 Both the Senate and the committee ators went over for the first time the official text of the special defensive treaty with France, submitted for rat ification yesterday by President Will son. Although most of them reserved judgment, it became apparent that the treaty's ratification would be bitterly contested
 TWO MAIN OBJECTIONS
 Two objections about which debate is expected to center are that the treaty departs from the tradition of no entangling alliancs and that it vio- lates the constitutional provision that Congress alone can declare war Those who base their oposition on the latter ground declare that by the promise to go to the aid of France immediately in case of an unprovoked attack on her from Germany, all fu- ture Congresses would be deprived of their power to decide for war or peace whenever the treaty terms were in- voked.
 To this administration leaders re- ply that the United States has made similar promises to go to war under certain circumstances in the past, cit ing the treaty by which this country guaranteed Panama's S independence and the Monroe Doctrine, which, they ar gued, gave notice that the free repub-' lies of this hemisphere would be de- tended against old world aggression at any cost. They also declare Con- gress often had been bound by treaty to appropriate money, make tariff laws and exercise other powers vested in it by the constitution.
 Interest in the subject was increased by today's dispatches from Paris Say- ing that leaders in the Chamber of Deputies were disposed to delay ratifi- eaton or the versailles treaty until { the American Senate had acted on the 2 defensive treaty. Opposition senators declared the development gave color to their charge that the promise to aid France was given in return for French support of the league of nations.
 HARDING NOT CONVERTED
 Until today, when he saw Senator Harding, President Wilson had invited to the White House none of the republican members of the committee except Sem ator McCumber. North Dakota, who open ly is league supporter. Senator Hard ing has made no announcement of his at titude in the Senate, although in the committee he has lined up on collateral issues with those who oppose unreserved ratification As he came from the White House today he laughingly disputed a suggestion that he had been "converted' to acceptance of the covenant without reservation.
 Tomorrow the President will see Sen ator New, Indiana, another republican member of the committee, who has indi- cated that he will vote against the treaty unless reservations are adopted. The other republicans with whom MT Wilson
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