Evening star., 1919-03-25


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1t is not pretty. but the act was very
kind of him. To one of his admirals
and to his head forester. Sternburg,
he gave the same or Similar pins.
Both kissed his hand. l did not.
simply shook his hand as he stretched
it toward me. l do not care much
about that poorly concealed terror Of
,all-ByZantilm.
The next day via Berlin to Vinor
The dear children; found all well.
kiel week, 1906.
After dinner on the yacht Hamburg
during the kaisers visit On June %,
1906, he first spoke at length with Col.
RooseVelt's daughter, then came back
to me, took my arm and said, Come,
we will now speak of something in
teresting which the others need not
hear"
Mrs. Alice t-Longworth
visited kiel to dedicate the Meteor
She had been married to Nicholas
Longworth in the White House in Feb
ruary of that year
Thereupon we went to the other end
of the ship There occurred the fol-
lowing conversation, which lasted
about one hour. l am only repeating
the most striking phrases.
(CZernin has written this conversa-
tion partly in the first and partly in
speeches by the words He" and 81"
For the sake of clearness the words
'.kaiser" and "Czernin" have been sub
stituted.)
Kaiser-He had better news from
Austria. The election reforms will
strongly favor the German. He had
told Minister President Beck that he
would have to do that.
Czernin-I pointed to the fact that
the national danger is the smaller
one; the main point is the continual
retreat before the socialist democratic
movement, which is becoming terribly
strong.
(The social democratic party in Aus
tria at this time represented the hopes
of the working5nen for better work
ing conditions, shorter hours and in
dustrial insurance, and worked hand
in hand with the socialists under
Bebel in Germany
Bad News From Russia.
Kaiser-He admitted this and said
that he had very bad news from Russia
In Russia big decomposing process is
going on. He had been asked in detail
about the system of federated states
and he had Immediately said to Buelow
that the Russians were thinking of
copying it. According to his opinion,
Russia will be cut up into small states
with grand dukes and such things at
their heads. This will be fortunate be-
cause the Slav power in Europe will be
broken.
(The kaiser had evidently been asked
by members of the Russian government
about the federative state system which
was the basis of the German empire
Buelow is Prince Won Buelow, imperial
chancellor before Bethmann Hollweg)
Czernin-I answered, 81 will admit
the last (statement), but before it will
happen the waves of a bloody revolu-
ton will have to pass over Russia"
(And revolutions have not the property
of hating at frontiers. Austria will be
seized. We have enough high explo-
lies between Russia and Austria, and
therefore, this is likewise critical for
him-the kaiser)
Kaiser-He cannot interfere. If they
(the revolutionaries) should start
with him he would knock their heads
is out of the question. The last one
is always right. IA German proverb.
He cannot do anything; to interfere
is a dangerous business-about him
tthe kaiser) they are always saying
that he is interfering. They even say
that he wants to annex parts of
Austria. He has never thought of
THAT. Germany is big enough and he
aoes not want any Siavs at all! Be
sides, the Austrian army is big enough
and strong enough to crush any revo-
luton.
Czernin-Of course he misunderstood
me. l do. not mean that he should
interfere in our country. but in Russia,
where they are too weak.
Kaiser-Yes, they are really too
weak. He has news that a revolu-
tionary spirit has finally come into
the army Especially in the reserves1.
Czernin-The future will bring great
unheavals in our country also: Gus
toms, boundaries between transleitha
and cisleitha and thoughts of COM
mercial union with Germany ICzernin
here refers to the difficulties between
Austria and Hungary. Transleitha is
Hungary and cisleitha is Austria
The Leitha river runs along the terri
tory which Czechoslovakia hopes the
conference will neutraliZe SO that the
Czechs will have direct connection
with the Jugoslavs instead of becom-
ing subject to Hungarian customs
duties.]
What Would Americans Dop
Kaiser Qistens intently)-He says
that this interests him very much. 1t
Is in his mind. He tried to do the
same thing years ago with France,
but they are all too foolish. They
only think about Ia revanche (re-
venge). All Europe must unite eco
popofcalJy against Americal (Czerpip