New-York tribune., 1919-01-08

tion of the entire matter, because yot
did have that hopefur outlook"
/ Absolutely because of that belief
| If you want me to .an finish this, be
cause did not sit in again. I took
Mr.. Mcfarland with me and We walked
from the Mayors Office to my office and
| sent for Mr.. Quackenbush, asked
him to come in and introduced Mr.
Quackenbush to Mr.. Macfarland.'
II then said to Mr.. Quackenbush
the Mayor and myself that 'We are
to help MIR. Macfarland work this out
and the only promise we have given is
that when it is worked out, { it is
along the lines as ] believe it will be,
that we will be in receptive mood,
but no person is committed to any
thing beyond that from our side Of the
house.
Macfarland Taken Ill
"Then Mr.. Quackenbush took Mr.
Macfarland with him into his office and
I have never seen MIR. Macfariand since.
From that time on Mr. Quackenbush
kept me advised of the progress of the
work, and after some weeks had
elapsed Mr.. Quackcnbush came in one
morning and said he had just received
ton that Mr.. Macfarland, whom he
had expected to meet him that day, was
i'll with the influenza, and the doctor
advised he would not be out for some
weeks
"Mr. Qusckenbush said, OF course,
you realize the Importance of time to
u.s. and added, 4 would suggest that
you call the Mayor up and advise him
of this situation
"T thCreupou NM ca11 To,. -
Mayors Office, and in few minutes
got in communication with tho Mayor
| told him that we had expected to
meet Mr.. Macfarland, but that he had
not shown up. and the Mayor inter
ruptcd to say, He is down in New Or
leans
Burr Enters Negotiations
Il said, no, Mr. Mayor, we have Just
had a phone message from Boston
that he is i'll with the influenza and that
his doctors say he won't be out for
some weeks, and what have called up
TO suggest is this: In view of the press
ing necessity of the situation for re-
lief, especially with the surface lines,
is there not some ono in whom you
( have confidence to whom you can refer
this work that Mr.. Macfarland is doing
with Mr.. Quackenbush and let him
continue putting these views into con
crete shape. so that when Mr.. Marfar-
! land recovers, as VIC hope he Will, the
time won't be lost?
"Thc Mayor said he thought that was
very excellent suggestion and that
he would ask Mr.. Burr, the Corpora
ton Counsel, to take up the work with
Mr.. Quackenbush. that, J will do il
within fifteen minutes | know he did.
for it was not but just a few minutes
! l<,Ff a%lf. n
! IN communication with Mr.. Burr. and I
said to the Mayor, 4 think Mr.
Quackenbusn is pretty we'll acquainted
with Mr.. Macfarland's vicws'''
Third Conference Detailed
Telling of third conference with
Hylan, Shonts testified:
IL had later conversation at his
Office. | suggested to the Mavor-T
think, the first time I ever met him
and | had written to hm-that had
/ always felt that the city should have
representation on our board of direct
ors after they became partner, and
inasmuch as the date for the partner
ship to begin had been fixed, thought
among other things, would call and
remind him of that suggestion which
| did, and he said he wished would
again remind him before January /,
which did by note later on. then
said to him: You know, we have wait.
ed long time to sec what was going
to happen in regard to that Macfarland
matter, if anything
"And he said: you understand Mr.
+ Macfarlands illness has delayed the
situation, but Mr.. Burr says, / under
stand, Mr.. Macfarland is now in Wash
/ ington, but Mr.. Burr expects to see him
within day or two This was toward
the last of the week, ] remember. be-
! cause he said: Il expect to sec Mr..
Burr on Monday, and if he is ready to
report in full, as | think he will be
after he sees Mr.. Macfarland again.
then Will call meeting of the Board
of Estimate and Appointment, and
we will sec what can be done
Committee Conference Suggested
"Then he said: There must be some
solution of this whole problem. Mr.
Shonts, and think we should Law aside
all our prejudices and get around n
table and get down to facts to figure
out solution. I think that is the
way to do it,
81 said that in place of taking this
subject up with the whole Board Of
Estimates why don't you follow your
original suggestion to me and appoint
committee Of your people to meet n
committee of our people and let us
get around table and see if we can
not thrash this thing out?'
."And he said: 4 do not know but
yet, even If I did make it. / think
that the Mayor and the Controller and
the President Of the Board Of Alder
men or pOsgiblv tho preaident NJ Mar