Republican farmer., 1919-08-22

there should be treaties with Aus tria, Hungary, Turkey and Bulgaria. Those treaties are all more or less connected with the treaty with Ger many. The question I should like to ask Is what are the prospects of re- ceiving those treaties for action7 The President: I think 1t is very good. sir, and so far as I can judge from the contents of the despatches from my colleagues on the other side of the water, the chief delay is due | to the uncertainty to what is going ; to happen to this treaty. This treaty | is model of the others. I saw enough of the others before I left ] Paris to know that they are being framed upon the same set of prin- cipIes and that the treaty with Ger many is the model. I think that is chief element of delay, sir. Senator Lodge: They are not re- garded as essential to the considera- tion of this treaty?
 1 The President: They are not re- ! garded as such. no sir; they follow i this treaty.
 Senator Lodge: I do not know about the other treaties, but the l treaty with Poland, as an example, has been completed?
 The President: Yes and signed, but 1t is dependent upon this treaty. My thought was to submit it upon the | action on this treaty.
 Senator Lodge then asked whether the President could show the com mittee the tentative League of Ma tions drafts submitted by Great Brit | ain, France and Italy.
 The President: I would have sent them to the committee with pleasure | Senator, if I had found that I had l them. I took it for granted that I l had them; but the papers that remain | in my hands remain there in a hap 1 hazard way. I can tell the character of the other drafts. The British draft
 was the only one as I remember, was 1 in the form of a definite constitution of a League. The French and Ital- ian drafts were in the form of a ser ies of propositions laying down gen. | eral rules and assuming that the com mittee or whatever body made the final formulations would build upon those principles if they were adopted. They were principles much consistent with the final action.
 | I remember saving to the commit
 tee when I was here in March some
 thing to the effect that the British
 draft had constituted the basis. I thought afterward that that was mis-
 leading and l am very glad to tell the
 committee just what I meant. Some months before the conference | assembled, a plan for the League of
 Nations would be drawn up by Bri-
 tish committee at the head of which
 was MT. Phillimore-I believe the MT. l Phil1iUnnrn who known the
 authority on international law. A copy
 of that document was sent to me
 and I built upon that a redraft. | I will not now say whether I thought it was better or not an improvement but l built on that draft which was quite different, inasmuch as it put definiteness where it had been what seemed indefiniteness in the Philli- more suggestions. Then, between that tiTIe and the time of the forma- ton of ne commission on the League of Nations, I had the advantage of | seeing a. paper by General Shuts of South Africa, who seemed to me to have done, some very clear thinking, particularly with regard to what to
 be done with the pieces of the dis membered empire.
 After I got to Paris therefor I re-
 wrote the document to which I have
 alluded, and you may have noticed that 1t consisted of a series of articles and then supplementary agreements. It was in the supplementary agree ments that I embodied the additional ideas that had come to me not only from General Shuts paper, but from other discussions. That is the full story of how the plan which I sent to the committee was built up. . Senator Lodge: Then of course it
 is obvious that the General Shuts
 plan had been used. That appears on the face of the document.
 The President: Yes.
 Senator Lodge:-Then there was a
 previous draft in addition to the one
 you have sent to us. You spoke of
 redraft. That was not submitted l to the committee.
 The President:-No; that was pri-
 Senator Lodge: Was 1t before our
 commission?
 The President:-No.
 The President said a draft of Arti-
 cle x which Senator Johnson had presented to the committee twas par' of the draft which preceded the draft which was sent to you" TEXT-Nineteen k2c7s Senator Johnson: It was the ori-
 ginal plan?
 The President: It was the original form of Article Ten.
 Asked by Senator Lodge whether , | he had seen the resolutions for a f League submitted by Secretary Lau- , sing. the President replied: s 'Yes''
 Senator Lodge: No specific action 5 was taken upon them? , The President: Not in formal way Senator Lodge then asked whether the United States would receive any , 1 part of the German reparation funds. r The President: I left that ques-
 tion open, Senator, because I did not feel that I had any final right to de- eide it.
 , The President added that pre-war claims were not covered by the repa- ration clause, and said the reparation
 commission would decide. : A z a n EE1EFa A A