Arizona republican., 1919-03-09

WASHINGTON. March s.-David E. Francis who went to Russia as Amer ican ambassador in 1916. before the overthrow of the monarchy. and who remained there until after the bOlshev- ists had seized the government. In tes- tlfying today before the senate com mittec Investigating lawless propa- ganda. warned that should the bol- shevists be permitted Co remain in power. all Russia would be exploited by tho Germans, Within ten years, un- der such conditions. he said, Germany would be the victor of the war. in that tho nation would be stronger in every way than it was in 1914.
 Ambassador Francis told the com mittee that a complete and thorough understanding of the Russian menace convinced him that with the bolsheVists tn power in Russia. peace not only in Europe. but throughout the entire world. was an utter impossibility. He said that even now there was good req son for believing that German and Austrian officers were with the red forces, operating in northern Russia and he added that tho Germans stead fly were getting grip on the vitals or Russia and her industries.
 Mir. Francis further testified that in- formation had reached him that Ray mond Robbins. former American Red Cross commissioner to Russia had upon his return to the United States carried a proposal from the bolshevik government to President Wilson. This proposal. he said he understood. was an offer of certain concessions to the American government, similar to those granted Germany in tho treaty of Brest-Litovsk
 The ambassad'r said so far as he knew. Mir. Robbins was never given an opportunity to present the proposal to the president.
 Soviet Seeks U. S. Only
 In reply 10 questions from members of tho committee, Mir. Francis said it was his understanding that the soviet government did not desire to make d similar proposal to Great Britain. France and the other allies. On the contrary. his information. he said. was Go the effect that the bolshevists wished to conceal the proposal from the gov ornments associated with the United States.
 Tho ambassador was asked what would happen if American and allied troops were withdrawn from northern Russia. and replied that he was posi- tive the bolshevists would sweep in and engage in an orgy of murder and de- struction on a scale such as the world has never seen.
 Reports that the bolshevists were sending their agents into Germany France and England were upheld by the ambassador. who said he believed the efforts in this country thus far had taken the form of money fors use in spreading of their propaganda. He told Of the delivery of bolshevist propa randa Co the armies of the allies and The United States in France.
 The ambassador said the soviet gov ernment had recently been petitionet not to carry out the denationalizatioI of certain banks, the objects of th' petitioners being, he said, 10 allow Ger man agents tO obtain control of th' stock Of these institutions Mir. Franci said it was not true that the mass O tho Russians favored the rule of thu bolshevillL As a matter of fact, accord ing Co Ambassador Francis. less thai a constantly dwindling ten per cen Of all the people in Russia belonged Co the bolshevists. He painted a vivi, picture of the terror that reigns in thu old country of the czar and told of on' instance where the gutters from a cour yard of Pctrograd actually ran witl blood from the victims of the bolshe vists. Many were killed without ever charges being made against them, ana on several occasions. the ambassador asserted. wholesale killings were in dulged in. He said more than 1900 in. nocont hostages were killed at on' time. and that his observation of con. ditions and affairs in Russia led hin Co believe that the bolshevists in thet every day practices committed exces- ses far beyond even the widest dreami of anarchists.
 Worse Than Anarchists
 Anarchists. as I understand them he declared. believe only in the de struction of property. The bolshevist believe in the destruction of propertl
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