The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1919-06-25

oouy' passed by vote Of 60 TO 1 and
light"
A hint that the world NAV sxpect
some out OF the way DEVELOPMENTS In
governmental administration was con-
tained In his answer to the question
whether the report was true that certain
communities In ireland, despairing of
peing properly ruled by the English,
mad adopted a Soviet for Of self-govern-
ment-
Irish Have Own Ideas.
I'VE have our own ideas on social
reconstruction" said Mr. de Valera
we are people with distinct national
characteristics-that 10 why England
has never been able-to make Englishmen
Gut OF us. Methods that suit other coun-
tries wouldn't suit us.
were a very democratic people
there are few persons OF great wealth
IN Ireland. Such things as profit shar-
Ing could be introduced at once"
This sustained enlightenment OF the
attitude OF the Sim Fein party on Inn
portant Questions-it was delivered dur
ing an Interview that ran close to two
hours-came at the close OF a long day
OF work Arising at z 80 he busted him
self In debating to his stenographers
and In meeting the scores Of visitors
from all walks OF life who thronged
the hotel corridors to see him. He turned
Gown dozens Of offers to 60 to luncheon,
perhaps because, as he explained later,
he has lost his appetite since being in
jail. For Ave or six weeks while he
was In confinement. he said. there were
many nights when he went hungry to
oed. and now the only time when he
seels n conscious desire to eat Is lust
before dropping down"
Many other marks OF esteem, besides
invitations to dine and to make speeches,
were showered on him during the day.
Alderman Burke offered a resolution
comforting the freedom OF the city on
Mr.. de Valera, and this was unanimously
adopted by the Board of Aldermen.
A telegram came from the College OF
St Vincent de Paul in Chicago Offering
him an honorary degree in science. To
signalize his appearance in public on this
side Of the water the Major j. Mcbride
Branch of the Friends OF Irish Freedoms
at 137 East Ninety-sixth street pre-
| sented petition to Mayor Hylan re-
questing that the nag of the Irish Re
public be flung to the breeze from the
City Hall on July s, as a recognition of
the Celtic races effort to emerge from
British rule.
But Mr.. de Valera showed no sign Of
wishing to take part In the pomp and
circumstance Of any festivities In his
honor. There was. in fact. nothing sus-
gestive Of the magisterial In his de-
| meanor yesterday. When he received
/; the reporters at noon 1t was Informally.
In his shirt sleeves. Referring TO q
published caution that while in this
country he must obey the law he said :
When ] came here I had every in
tention Of obeying the laws Of a Govern
ment Of the people. for the people and
by the people. An Irishman will only
| refuse to obey the laws imposed upon
him and his country by q foreign Power.
As to any one interfering with mo I am
certain that the American people will
not stand for any interference by British
tools"
He said the most important thing the
people OF America could do to aid the
Irish cause would be to recognize on
cially the Irish Republic" The revolu-
tionary party Is ready to submit the
question Of the independence OF Ireland
to a plebescite, he said, certain the result
would be to in favor Of indepen-
dence.
The people Of Ulster" he said. ARE
republicans at heart Republication
originated among the Presbyterians OF
Belfast. It Is a mistake to say that all
1
to independence. Ireland's greatest
political leaders and statesmen have been
4 Protestants."
! Personal details he waved aside with
a deprecating smile, declining good
humoredly to reveal either the means by
which he escaped from prison in Ireland
| or the manner Of his arrival in this coun-
try. On the latter point he declined To
commit himself on q report current yes
\ hat hA mad from
Ireland in seaplane and then made
good his escape in a private Yacht.
His Talk Impersona1.
Throughout this talk and the later
one In the evening he strove to keep the
conversation lmpersonal and centred or
general principles trait which. COM
bined with his tall stature and aquilins
features, heightened his resemblance tc
President Wilson. Throughout his In
tervlew his brown eyes would burn firt
as the story OF Ireland's wrongs rushed
to his lips. but they could be lightenet
with the CLINT Of Gaelic humor. as wheI
he was asked whether he would go Il
the fiscal agents Of England here u
float his loan for the Sim Fein organi
zation.
England might give 1t to u.s." m
chuckled. It's a good sound business
proposition-and Englishmen sold arm
to the Beers during the Boer war"
The bond issue, he said, would be To-
5000, 200. Mr.. de Valera, who prom
Used that prospectus would be ISSUED
} soon on the full details. said the bond
would commence drawing interest a
soon as English troops evacuated Ire
land. Though automatically circlinl
about the question as to whether any o
this money would be used for arminl
Sim Fein troops. he Acknowledged tina
the funds would be used for "all tn
regular functions Of Government" II
reply to a question whether this nigh
not be considered a breach OF interna
tional law, he declared:
international law, to my way o
thinking, is largely a rule of conduc
among thieves. There is a deeper Law
the law of humanity. The money raise
would not be used for partisan purposes
but for all Ireland. And l want to den.
absolutely that there was Q penny o
foreign money, German or Russian. USE
by us Wen buy our liberty with on
blood"
WAISTS CHARGE DENIED.