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New: That informal statement Of
Uchida7
Lansing: Yes.
Knew OF No other Facts.

Knew of No other Pacts.
Senator Moses IN. H. asked IL there
were more secret engagements between
any Of the Allies of which the United
States was unaware.
Mr.. Lansing did not know.
After some discussion on this head
Senator Borah said: / want to ask a
question In connection with this same
subject with reference to the phrase
regional understanding" in Article XXI.
Would that phrase cover the secret
agreement or these special agreements
between Japan and Great Britain? Are
not those regional Understandings
lansing: Well, confess 1 do not
know.
Senator Hitchcock: Do you consider
those secret treaties In effect now?
Lansing: I suppose they are.
Hitchcock: Would they be in the adj
vent OF the adoption of the League OF
Nations?
Lansing: No. I think that would dis
pose Of them.
Hitchcock: They would be abrogate6
by the league?
lansing Yes
Hitchcock: Abrogated, then, upon the
ratification of this treaty by Japan?
Lansing: Yes.
Senator McCumber IN D.: Provided
they are in conflict with TT
Hitchcock: They are specifically de-
nounced.
McCumber: To the extent that they
are in conflict with 1T
New: Mr.. Secretary, as Article XXI
OF the league covenant reads. the i'm
plication Is that there are so-callea
| regional understandings other than the
| Monroe Doctrine. Can you tell us what
some of these regional understanding.
are?
Lansing: Yes, Morocco, Egypt, GER
| tain portions OF East Africa.
Senator Knox: Liberia?
Lansing: Liberia is another.
New: Would 1t not be we'll to arrive
| at complete understanding and avoit
future disagreements to set forth all tn,
regional understandings that are to b,
hereafter observed7
Lansing: You mean In the league?
New: Yes. The Monroe Doctrine Il
specifically named as a regional under
| standing.
TacitIy Endorses Reservation.
| Lansing: 1t might have been well
| That is a matter of opinion. that is all
New: Well, are we to understand tina
In Joining the league with that articl
phrased as 1t Is we accept that defini
ton Of the Monroe Doctrine?
Lansing: What definition do 70,
mean?
New: That it is regional under
standing
Lansing: Yes, I should think so. /
Is a regional understanding. 1t is
phrase that was not familiar witt
until 1t appeared in the covenant
| New: Who originated that phrase
| Lansing: have not the slightes
idea
| New: I think we are alike on that
None OF us ever heard of 1t.
| Borah: The press attributed 1t t.
Col. House.
McCumber: 1t is an understanding
that covers a certain region.
| Lansing: That is IT.
McCumber: There is no objection t
calling the Monroe Doctrine reglona
understanding II 1t covers the Western
Hemisphere.
The Chairman: with whom is TIL
understanding?
| McCumber: II the rest of the worl
agrees to It there is an understanding
The Chairman: They have not, yet
McCumber: This treaty is suppose
to obtain their acquiescence in IT,
The Chairman: Then 1t will not b
a regional understanding until tn
treaty is agreed to.
senator Williams: Call It by tina
name In order TO keep IT from bein
the Monroe Doctrine.
Lansing l do not believe I can de
bate that.
McCumber: My question is: what