The Oklahoma City times. [volume] (Oklahoma City, Okla.) 1908-1984, 1918-01-25
RUSSIANS KNOW
cERMANY'S AIMS,
TRoTzKY SAYS
Slav Minister Is Glad Show
down Has Been Called,

PRTROGRAD. THURSDAY Ian "a --
A detailed account OF the Brc,l-lrtoy>k
conference session io'rwing General
Hoiiman> bold statement Of the aims
OF the central power, was published
by the Smolny Institute today con
Tro1ky. the bolSheyiki foreign mini,
ter addressing the conference declared
that the position OF the Nu-irn.ncr-
mans i~ now ali, luel clear
Continuing 'hc foreign wu Gen SAID
Germany and Austria seek to ca, off
more than lSOOOO square ycr,t> from
the former Polish kingdom Of lI'Nu-
ania. also the area populated by the
UkrainlanS and white Russians AL
further want to cut into the history oi
the l-euS and separate the islands popu
lated bv the ESthonians from the same
people, on the main land
Occupation for All Timc
"Wrhm Itm> territory Gcrmauy and
Austria wish 10 rrtdn their reign OF
military uCCumllu not uuit Jl'" the
conclusion tUi peace with Russia. hul
after the conclusion ol general peace
At the same time the central powers
refuse not only to give any explanation
regarding the term, Of evacuation. but
also refuse 10 oblgate themselves re-
garding the evacuation
The internal life Of these provinces
lies therefore, for an indefinite epoch
in the hands Of these powers Under
such conditions any indefinite Guaran-
tees regatdng the cNprc,Slon oi the
will Of the Poles, l"lts and lrihu.
auians aSc only oi AZ lllu,ory char.
ac,cr. Practically 1t means that the
roycrnmcnIs Of Austria RuI Gcrmauy
take into their own hands the destiny
OF these nations
Glad They Spoke Frankly
Trotzky declared he was glad now
that the central powers were speaking
frankly, stating that General Hoil.
mans condition proved that the real
aims were huilded on quite a different
level to the principles recognized on
December q and that real or lasting
peace was only possible on the actual
principle Of stlfdciinllIon
1T is clear" Tro,lky declared 'tha,
the decision could have been reached
long ago regarding peace aims II the
central powers had not stated their
aims differently from those expressed
by General Hoffman %
DR.. Richard Won kuchlmaun. Ger.
man secretary for foreign affairs re-
piled to Trotlky declaring III principle
that General Hofiman's aims were the
same as those advanced on Christmas.
Throughout the negotiations he SAID
the Germans had kept IN view the
theological boundaries and also the
actual Boundaries OF the old Russia
ERnplre.
v Troops wootdn't Be Menace.
He saids that the central power, in
.cnd"d to permit free scIi-d"nlu'n
scoiiinc at the theory that the pres
encc of troops would prevent TIM,
Evacuation, Dr. kuehlmaun said. mus
he taken up with the newborn self
defined governments
III General Hoffman expresses the
terms more strongly SAID Dr. Won
Kuehlmann, II is because soldier al
ways uses more strong language than
a diplomat II must not he dcduced
from this that there i, any d'Scntion
between us regarding the principles
which are ON the whole well though,
out"
DR.. Kuchlmann consented 10 Irotl-
ky's request for a po,,noncmcut o' the
conference. declaring however that n
would be much pIca,aner if they could
finish the negotiations now as the
formal recess brought about many mis-
understandings