New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1918-12-22

ought to go out This Witness has
N"'er'aken to brand Senator Reeds
purpose here as beinu .ct,a+aa h,.
something Interior
Senator Strike thot ,+,.e
the record. ~
! record WIZ 30 IN some
:. Mr' becker--I shall consent to have
~ ~ III tne record. | am used to being
nu,aatckgsuarded by anything that ema-
mates from Hearst.
stay in. e'S we'll let II
senator Reed am saving that anv
man who makes that insinuation is a
common scoundreI
Likes Hearst's Abuse
90 lar as | am concerned" he de-
CARED looking at Senator Reed, 81 am
proud of any sort of abuse that ema-
mates IN any way from the Hearst
crowd"
me Hearst crowd" almost shouted
Reed. "All right"-and he slammed
Gown heavy manuscript in front of
here are your docuE>ents."
Inc examination started s'th de-
mand from Reed for the full text of
the letters rogatory from the French
government, under which the investi-
cation was held. Then came the de-
mand for the names of the invcsti-
gators used in the case Mr. Reed had
referred to the investigation Of the
Humbert and Bolo cases.
"Nes,' said Becker. "You mean the
matters relating to Your client, Mr.
Hearst, The colloquy went on:
Senator Reed-oYu do not mean to
say that Mr. Hearst is my client?
Mr.. Becker-Oh no; l beg your par
don.
senator Reod-And you do not need
to beg my pardon. You meant to be
~ what YOU have been throughout this
<~testimony
Mr.. Becker-That was mere slip of
the tongue.
A Slip of the Tongue
Senator Reed 1t was not slip of
the tongue. IT was deliberate slam
and your attempt to develop it in that
way does not reflect credit on your
voracity.
Senator Overman- oh, we'll, Senator
Reed
Senator Reed ! will not allow any
man to say that to me when | am sit
ting mere engaged IN an official IN
curry
Senator Ovcrman He says it was
slip of the tongue
Senator Reed do not take that
kind OF Slip aud it is nothing to me
) Mr.. Becker Oh, | do not expect tt
be arrested.
; Senator Reed: If you want to know
who my client is, am interested il
trying TO develop some truth through
maze of statements that have beer
so manifestly distorted and unfail
that it is hard to characterize them ir
; parliamentary language.
This colloquy gives a fair idea
of the atmosphere which prevailed
throughout the day. The next CLASH
t came when Reed. referring to the
makers of the aftidavits about Hearst
said he wanted to ascertain "what in
fuences We're used to put words into
their mOuths.'
Demands Detectives Name
Senator Sterling interposed, and Mr.
Reed finally stated that he "did no
mean to assume that" Major Hume:
here offered an objection to Reeds de
mand Tor the names of the Secret Ser
vice men and the Senator turned OF
him, and demanded for whom Hume,
appeared. On learning that he was de
tailed by the Secretary of War, at the
request of Senator Overman to repre-
sent the committee, Reed demanded:
II want to know what sort of repre-
sentation it is that would hesitate tt
consent to produce the name Of thu
man who was sent out to get witnesses
} and to talk with witnesses. Are 70,
interested in anything but the trutl
of this matter?"
Major Humes declined to dignity tina
with an answer, and when Reed started
on a new tack Senators Sterling an,
Overman both objected
Senator Reed declared he was inter
ested liz nothing but getting at tn
truth, and shortly dropped Maio
7 Humes. Mr.. Becker stated the reason
why secret service work could not b.
done if the secret service men wer,
| publicly known, and Reed said:
; Il do not care to argue that question
with you. But this much | say-tha
any honest man, making an honest in
? after his report is made does not neet
the protection of secrecy"
Calls Idea Nonsense
"That is all nonsense" was Becker
comment. AS stated. the committe,
, held that Mr.. Becker was right
81 notice." Mr.. Becker added, cha
the Hearst forces have been trying TO
six months to find out the name Of tn,
men who made that investigation, ant
they have not succeeded yet, which
2 shows that we have & pretty good Sc
cret Service"
Mr.. Reed took new angle, and want
, ed all the details as to how the aft
l davits were obtained-wh whether the wit
nesses were talked with before the,
! made them This consumed Ions
tim. The one interesting point brough
out was Mr.. Becker's opinion of tn
possible influence Of Hearst men OF
witnesses. Bernard Shoemaker, tn
doorman at Hearst's apartment, he said
had been grabbed and brought dow
without any warning" Reed took hin
: up on the word grabbed"
eyes" he said, "that is the way t
get results. That is the way to ge
Mr. Hearst's employe to tell the trutl
= before he had been warned to tel
something different"
Senator Reed-You think that such
man working for him would necessarily
:. be villain and bad one, so that yo
l would have to handle him differentl
from any other witness?
Mr. Becker-Oh, not the man. l ar
e not casting ana reflection on Nh
Hearst's employees, but rather the per
n sons who would influence them aS +