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The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29

WITH THE AMERICAN ARMY
NORTHWEST OF VBRDUN. Oct, IS
(By tho Associated Prcss)-Thc CIR
mans have created a great reserve s"nn
IN Lorraine through which civilians,
unless they have authorization. may Tot
pass They also have transformed a
part of Alsace into q great entreEcheA
rnUp. in which carefully prepared poi
tons Will mako up for their lack in
human material.
It is known that the Germans have
expected liaison attack by American
and French troops against the Gnrman
let wing and have been fearful tHat
the allied troops would break through.
Us they have done in other attacks dur
ing the past few months. Their anxiety
was shown in the following dcclara'!cn
prin'fa by the Frankfort Gazette in 8
recent issue:
Tile situation has become noticeaOly
difficult. 1t is most tense on our left
wing. from the strategic as well as
the tactical point of view. Ono must
regard with all seriousness the incrCls-
ing gravity oc the situation in tho. re
ron Of HuuZicrcs, because the "a;"nte
has succeeded in obtaining considerable
advantages in the center brtw"- The
Scheldt and the Cambria canal in ;hri,
formidable attempt TO picrc" our limo"
Early today American patrols nStab-
lishcd that the E"llrjuycuSr farm. north
east Of Grandprr. has been deserted by
the enemy. hut it WAS we'll protected by
Il heavy tlnnkinE machine gun fire. 1t
therefore remains No Mans Land
Tho Americans in the BourEOSnr wood
now control the ridg" extending from
Yalma eastward I" tho southern part
of the wood The Germans today infn
tratcd through Tho American limo at
HiIl cO4. heavily armed with machine
discovered however. and pounded with
artillery and machine guns and driven
off Tho Americans captured several
of the enemy mnchtn" guns and turn
al them on the Germans.
German patrols which sought In pen
81 rate the American lines nnrth of tho
Ravinn-au1-Iicrro. were r"pulS"d 10y an
unusually heavy fire.
The infantry activity was slight In
tho center and on the right Of tn" sec
tor. hut tho "n"my'S artillery resist
ancn grew constantly in power during
the past 81 hours. y hitra$Sing fire
was carried out against I'll" American
front lines and back areas all along III"
line today. The Ain'"rhln r"t;tiiated
spirit adly.
male ~. npprnrHnr" over tn" American
lines in IN" vicinity Of st. Iuvir. som"
nf tho nllrhin"S were painted bright
v.rmillIuu and others dark gray. with
a rlain black rr"Ss On them. Some or
the machines had flaming rod noses.
Many. If hem dr"pp"d rrnpn Sanda.
WITH TIE AMERICAN FORCES
NORTHWEST O" NERbtN. OCT. rs.
= p, tho Associated rr"sS)--li"uten-
ant Wilbur IT. While, IL New York. in
trying to aid his American conrad" dur
ing 4 lrht with a German pilot crashed
h"ad-on into tho German nnchln". The
collision was 81 sever" and tn" f@ht
was 50 intense that each of the col
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
Not Discussed.

AMSTERDAM. OCT. ga dispatch
from Berlin says 4 proposal that
President Wilson'S note to Germany
should rot be discussed in the Reicn
stag. was adopted by that body at a
meeting held on Friday. The Con
aervativcs and independent Socialists
voted against ii.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
.SPEEDERS AND DRINKS

Five specdcrs and two drunks.
picked up by Ofncer LoGomarcinO ana
Officer Reed. Of Fulton. were given
hearings before Mayor F. J. StoecK"r
last evening and handed the usual hheS
and costs. The Fulton officials are still
making Il determined effort To break up
shedding in the town and arc prose-
cutting every violatur brought to justice.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
Racetved BY Emperor.

VIENNA. VIA BASEL. SWITZER-
LAND, OCT. 2S.-Empcror Charles
and Empress Z!ta, Of Austria arrived
ut tho Schoenhrunn Palace on Sunday
morning from tho Royal Chateau at
Goedoetioe near Budapest
Tna etnrrirr immediately recetved
Count Julius AndrnSSy. the new foreign
minister and Professor Lammaach. the
premier.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29

went weaving like pirates through the
sea: although with glrc inhuman they
piled the sword and dirk on babe and
priest and woman. md rlnrrd in the
work. Since this war had its morning
it's been tho Prussian plan TO view
with tnors and scornnE the laws OF God
and man. oh. sure. va ought 10 love
them the whole blamed filthy nest. Red
bill. who rules above them. Won Hert-
ling and the rest Love them. who
have been clothing with dead the land
and seas! But love must turn to loath-
ing when facing brutcs like these.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
FOR RENT

FOR RENT-Twn or three furnished or
unfurnShcd rooms with BATH e6=O
Vance avenue, WlTwnUd. u--S-l
FOR RENT-'rw0 or three furnished or
unfurniShrd ru"mS. Rooms. care or
InieligCncHr. O--O-l
FOR REN'r-Cinnd orrce and hNinE
rooms on the second and third floors u!
the new 1ut"lligcnc"r building, 1903 ana
1907 Market 81. Now ready Tor occu-
rancy. Apply rctcr Boyd, care lnlc!ll-
gcnc@. AP-4'-lA
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
MRS. CYRUS BREwNEMAN.

EAST LIVERPOOL. O.. OCT. "S-
Mrs. Cyrus r. sr"nneman. g. was
found dead in bed ut her home IN Ar
royo, W. Va. today. Heart disease Is
believed the cause of death.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
MISCELLANEOUS
WANTED-Male or Female

WANTED at once. Must
apply in person to Fort Henry Dairy
Lunch ! o--o''
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WANTED-To Buy Farm

vANTEp-Tn buy farm "f mo 10 ESQ
ncrTS Please stat whrr" situated
and price. Address Il. Farm. care OF
In;r!li E"ncrr. OWL
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BOlS BELLEU
fContinued From Page ona)

hat fine wiro run from the cane TO
q point in some nearby rocks. where I
was connected with n twenty-five p Nu2d
ch,lge Of high explosive.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
RIPPING RHYMES
Won HERTLWG.
BY WALT MASON.

Won Hcrtling would hcratc us; hc says
with sigh Of pain. Our enemies al nate
us with hn,rcd that's insane Or course
we ought to luvo them. the Germans
rank and file, md Bill. who rciEns above
them. with eagles on his tile. And IN
the past We thought them an honest
kindly race: until they showed. doo TOT
them. our Views were out OF place. And
even when they slaughtered like butch
crs run aruck. till France and Belgium
tottcrod beneath foul blows they struck.
wo said, 1T is their princes who make
Of war 4 fright; tho rulers all are
uulnccs, but Germans arc all right" Oh,
wo were slow in believing how vile tho
Teuts could be: although their boats
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
WANTED-Female

S>N~~
wANTED-WnTan TO do cleaning. APP
ply 1917 Jacob st. o-!g-l
wANTED-Ciirl or middle aged lady for
upstairs work. Apply Manhattan Res
taurant l4l7 Market St. o-29-i
WNTED-Onr or two ladies. age 80 to
A. 10 act AS chamhcrmaids, at Man
hnttau Hotel. 1929 Market st. o-29-l
WANTED-r;iri for homework. with a
pleasant family. Must furnish salts
factory reference. Apply Manager The
Dollar Store" l065 Main st. o-eS-i
Make your ap-
plication at "The Dollar Store" 1865
Main St. o-1e-L
wANTED-ITovcrnnH needs l2,0OO
1000 women clerks; Wheeling eN.
$1,000. Experience unnecessary. Women
desiring government positions write for
free partiCulars.,' J. {. Leonard CORNER
Civil Scrvica E;Xaminrr). 909 kcn"ls
Building. Washington. o--o-m
WANTED-Wnmcn 10 learn the automn-
bile business. good salary tn start.
Apply Mt Standard Automobile Co.. cor
ncr Of 9th and Market St. City. Obi
WANTED-T"n young ladies I" prepare
for government and commercial positions
on Hurr"uSh Calculating machines. sal
aries paid by government from 81 900 10
Lou per year. Jay buu tNtH'tb ~
s,rurtion. Burroughs Add. Mach. Sch"ol
500 Schmulhach Bldg. Telephone IVY.
u -,-.!.
WANTEp-Trn young ladies 10 learn
tn" Burroughs Adding and fookkcepinS
machines. Positions waiting LOT Efhuu-
aIcs. Day and evening instruction.. bur
rough& Adding Mach. School. 3V9 Scnmui-
bach Bldg Telephone 1879. o--o-m
WANTED-t;irlS for light clean factory
work. Apply Wheeling Tile Co; 32nd
and Woods ST. -o-Hi
WANTED-Govcrnm" needs l-.opu
women clerks, Wheeling. cNamina-
ti"ns Nov. >. Dec. :. Salary $1,000. EN-
pcrirncc unnecessary. Women desiring
government positions write for Tree par
ticuIarS. Raymond Terry (form"r Clfll
Service EXamincr). lilo Columbian
building. Washington. OIL
WANTED - Government needs l=o00
clerks at Washington. ENamlnatiohs
Wheeling in October. Salary S1.200. Elk
pcricncc unnecessary. Women oeslrlnG
government positions write TOT Tree par
ticulars. J. {. Leonard CORNER civil
Service Examncr) 9u9 Kenois Bui1dlns'
Washington. -SV-ns
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29

liding aircraft lost IL wing and fell be-
hind the German lines in the neighbor'
hood Of Dun-sur-Mcusc.
suit ayiaturS on n raid over the Ger
man lines when six Germans were
brought down. One Of the enemy was
directly on the tail Of another Amer
lean when White went TO his rescue.
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
DIED

MAxwELL-On Sunday. October eth,
1918. at O'Clock II. m. ut Ohio Vale!
General hospital. BLANCH BROWN
ING. wife Of James P. Maxwell.
Funeral services private at the Bertschy
narlors. No. l04 Sixteenth street, or
tuesday afternoon Mt o'clock. In
tcr1ncnt private at Greenwood cemc-
terry.
Oakland, Md. papers please copy)
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29
LOST AND FOUND

LoST-Houk tire wheel 3tx4k. Silver
town cord tires. Call Dillon 90.
o-2S-
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1918-10-29

voEILlNaER-On Friday. October 70
1915. at the residence OF his daughter
Mrs. J. S. Butts, 19l Sixteenth street.
HENRY NOELLINGER SR
Funeral notice hereafter.
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LOST-On River road. blue beade
bag. Call 12S-J for reward. o-2S-i
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WANTEp-T~n Young ladies u learn
tho burroughs Adding and bookkeeping
machines. POSITIONS waiting for gradu-
aIcs. Day and evening instruction.. bur-
roughs Adding Mach. School. 3v9 Schmut-
bach tldg Telephone l49?. o--9-W
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WANTED-Wrmcn 10 learn the automo-
bile business. good salary tn start.
Apply nj Standard Automobile Co., COT,
ncr Of 9th and Market St. City. o-26-t
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LOST-Cameo pin. lost at Echo Point.
between Oak Ave. and Edgwood ST.
Finder will receive reward. Call l6l-J
WoodSdalo. o-.o-l
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MISUNDERSTANDING Make your aD-
plication ut "The Dollar Store" 1865
Main St. o--o-L
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WANTED-tiIrl Tor houScworK. Win
pleasant family. Must furnish salts
factory reference. Apply Manager The
Dollur Store" lO65 Main st. o-oS-i
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
GENERAL MARCH PAYS HIGH
TRIBUTE to- AMERICAN ARMY:
"H0TSTUFF'' F''SAYSC CHIEF OF STAFF

Washington, Sept 14-Emnation of the St. Mehe salient
the first big American offensive and the reduction
that miles, General March said today of
tee Importance in that gives the allies much better base
flor future offensive operations 4as~a @T
General March paid high tributes the American forces
where less than days wiped out this salient the
and most angular on the entire Western front
The operations there he said tribute the
staff but to the individual soldier. ~. = '#
"Its hot stuff" he said warmly
No report has yet General Pershng ndenyng
individual units which participated in the advance General
March, however, the composition of the staff which
under General Peing planned and executed the movment
This sais ntre different from the general staff of the
expedtonaf forces which remained in it's entirety
the expedition headquarters.
Capture of the salient accomplished by quick sharp blows
both hanke General March explained The Americans ad
vancd difficult terrain consisting of dense woods
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
Boy Plays Soldier;
Kills Sister With
Shot Gun Charge

While the two young children Of
Mr. and Mrs. Martin Smith, residing
three miles east of Haynes, were play
ing soldier, the little be- nine years
Of age, pulled the trigger of the shot
gun he was carrying, blowing the top
of the head off his sister, Mabel, seven
years of age.
The two children were alone in the
kitchen of the home when the acci-
dent occurred. The mother was out
side doing some chores and the father
was at work in a nearby coal mine
The little boy picked up the shotgun,
in the magazine of which there were
several cartridges. = The little fellow
managed to work a shell into the
barrel and discharge the gun. The
unfortunate girl happened to be right
in front of the gun and received the
full charge in the head. Death was
instantaneous.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
GRAND n JURY TO
PROBE SINS OF
EDlM0NS COUNTY
Judge Nuessle, Calls lnquisitory
Panel to Convene at Linton
October s -.

Judge w. l.. Nuessle of the sixth
district court yesterday served the
clerk of court of Emmons county with
an order for the calling of a grand
jury for October 8. A petition con
tanning the signatures of more than
ten per cent, OF the qualified voters of
Emmons county had been filed with
the Judge, requesting that he order
a grand jury empaneled. ,.;.,,.~. -
This demand for a grand jury, the
first which Emmons county will have
mad in years, arises from the killing
of Mrs. iE L. Perras by a, ,HazeltOn
mob which was seeking her son-in-
law, w. w. Daugherty, who was charg.
ed with having hoarded a large guam
tity OF wheat CECIL Penning lon,s the
Hazelton drayman who has confessed
the actual shooting Of Mrs. .Perras,
gave himself up the night OF, the crime
and has since BEEN held in the cOun-
ty jail here charged with murder in
the first degree. Fifteen other mem.
bers of the mob were arrested on>or-
der of tate's Attorney Scott Cameron,
and number of the INST prominent
were held on charges Of rioting. The
prosecutor stated at the time that this
charge carried with lit the crime, Of
murder or any other offense which
may have been committed by the
mob. If it can be proved that these al.
legged rioters were members OF the
mob @a~+ -
Friends of Mrs. Perras and Daugh-
erty, alleging, it is claimed, that the
states attorney, was not acting with
sufficient severity, soon after the pre-.
liminary hearing of these alleged
rioters, began the circulation of petl'
tions asking that grand jury be call,
ed. The required number of signatures
was obtained about ten days ago, and
these petitions were filed with Judge
Nuessle.
The grand jury which convenes Oc-
tober at Linton will have power to
investigate any law-breaking within
the borders Of Enimons county which
may be brought to it's notice, and the
body may remain in session as long
as it sees fit. The October term of
court in Emmons will open October 8,
one week later than ordinary to as
sist the farmers in getting their crops
out of the way. The petit jury is call
ed for October H. ssf
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
RumOr of Cotton
Price Fixing is
Cause of Slump

New Orleans. Sept. 13.-Announcs-
ment by President Wilson that If
found necessary. basic price would
be fixed for cotton, caused a sensa.
tional opening on the New Orleans
Cotton Exchange today. In the first
few minutes of trading prices dropped
on an average of $11.5O per bale. As
compared with closing price yesterday
quotations ranged from 227 to 235
points lower on the active months. It
was the widest drop, ever recorded
here in similar period of trading.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
NORTH DAKOTA
TO SEND MORE
MEN TO DODGE
Call for 500 to Entrain Fore Part
Of October Received by
~ Fraser :

Provost Marshal General Crowder
has called upon North Dakota for SoJ
selective service men to entrain for
Camp Grant early in October 1t is
understood that these men are to be
selected from the ran:.s of. 1917 and
June, 1918, registrants, although no
details are yet available to the press.
The quotas for the various counties
have not been made up in the adjutant
generals office, pending the receipt or
reports on registrants from several
counties. -.--.. MA - - =. - L
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14

Pat Harrison. who beat Vardaman
in, the Mississippi Democratic prim-
airy for U. s. senator, goes to the
other extreme in haircut fashions.
Old Vardaman never did apply the
shears to- his locks. while, Pat-well,
take another look at his picture
above.
But it wasn't the long hair that beat
vardaman. His anff-war record In the
senate did that for him. Pat is Amer
ican through and through. Anything
which spells defeat for the kaiser
looks good to Pat.
He'll make good United States
senator. The toga will fit him snugly.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
25.OOO NURSES
NEEDED AT ONCE

Washington, Sept. 14.7Denial of re-
Gently published reports that the
nursing needs of the army had been
met was made today by Brigadier Cen
eral RICHARDS, who stated that 25!OOo
nurses must be obtained before the
end of the year. General Richards
said that more than 10000 are now
on the rolls of the army nurse corps,
leaving 5000 still to be obtained. 1t
is estimated that before July /, next,
SO. 900 will be needed.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
HUN GAS MASKS NO
LONGER SAVE THEM.
10y Newspaper Enterprise Ass'n.)

(By Newspaper Enterprise Ass'n.)
London, Sept. 14,-German gas
masks no longer are protection
against the new British poison gases.
say advices from the front. The Ger
man prisoners have been explaining
their heavy losses by saying their
mask is effective against allied gasses
for only three minutes. after which,
unless the wearer can escape from the
fumes, the gas penetrates the mask.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
RIPE NATIVE
STRAWBERRIES

Ripe, homegrown strawberries
from the gardens Of o n. Will C.
Co. made their appearance on Bis
marck markets today as an unusu-
al autumn delicacy. The berries
are selling at IS cents the pint,
and there is good dem and for
them. Other fruits Of all kinds
are unusually high. Concord
grapes, usually retaiIed at this
time of year for rs cents the bas-
ket, are selling at SIS. Pears are
dollar the bushei higher than
they were last year.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
STATE HAIL FUND
Practically All Premiums and
Loss Clans Filed

State hail insurance premiums re.
ceived to date aggregate $4,000, and
losses. which have already been ad.
justed total $31 ,45O, reports Thomas
]. Sheehan, hail insurance deputy In
the office of Commissioner Olsness.
The cost OF adjusting these losses has
been 1885. Mr.. Sheehan knows OF
only two claims which remain unad-
justed.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
AUTO BANDITS
MURDER TWO

Denver, Sept. 14.-The killing of
Patrolman1 Luther McMahill, here
early today, brought the casualties in
fluicted by the automobile bandits.
who began terrori1ing Colorado
Springs and Denver yesterday, to two
officers killed, on fatally injured, and
one probably fatally injured.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
To Claim Exemptions
For Rail Employees

Washington, Sept. 14-Regional d.
rector of sthe airlroad administration.
were instructed today to claim de-
ferred draft exemption for railroad
general officers, shopmen, trainmen,
skilled workers, telephone and tele-
graph opearters and other essential
employees, 80 =.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
M'INTOSH FIRST IN
Beats all Other Counties in State
Reporting Registrants

Mcintosh county. whose registra-
tion resume was in by noon Friday,
was the first. in North Dakota to re-
port to Al8Abk Genera kFraser re-
suits Of FhuFsdayss general registra-
ton.
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14
gen, PERSHING'S FORCES IN
TWO DAYS DRIVE INTO HUN
LINES TO DEPTH OF Is MILES
Salient Completely Wiped Out by Drive Which is
Unexampled for Rapidity and Dash General
Petain Gains Successes.
GERMANS ALARMED.

BY Associated PreSS)
Washington, Sept. 14.-Wth the American offensive
at their very DOORS and stories of long about
to beturned loose their towns, giving the
aspect to the Germans.
An official dispatch today quotes the following from
the Muhausen Tagblatt:
"The American offensive in upper Alsace and the
long range guns supposed to be intended to reduce to
ashes the towns of this country is mady alarming the in
habtants. Even people of high ranks tremble at the
like little children listening to ghost Stories
"Al measures for the eventual evacuation of the
grand duchy of Baden to Fresburg already have been
taken."
The Bismarck tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, N.D.) 1916-current, 1918-09-14

hovsvers. sl
The Watertown news. [volume] (Watertown, Wis.) 1917-1919, 1918-10-21
EIGHT new CASES
Of SPANISH FLU
REPORTED today
Total of 12O Cases In the City With
Six Deaths So Far-Many Pa
tients COnvalescing
Now.

Eight new cases Of Spanish in
fluenza were reported to the health
office today, making a total of all
cases reported 12O. But it must be
borne in mind that many of these
cases are now cOnvalescent and on
the road to recovery.
Owing to the prevalence of the dis
ease DR.. c. ]. Habhegger on Saturday
issued warning to the public which
was approved by Chief of Police
Charles Pieritz forbidding the loiter-
ing of people in saloons, also prohib-
iting card playing or other games in
saloons, and closing all poolrooms
billiard rooms, bowling alleys and
other places of amusement until fur
Their notice. The order is a drastic one,
made necessary by the spread of the
epidemic in WatertOwn, although the
fatalities so far have been confined to
four cases.
There is no need of worrying over
the situation. There is an old saying
that care killed cat, and the same is
true with most epidemics Fear has
tens the ravages Of any disease by
lowering the resisting power of the
system. Forget that there is such an
epidemic, take ordinary precautions,
and keep smiling. There's not one
chance in $4,000 of your dying from
the malady, and but little chance of
catching it at ALL