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with and supporting the new democra.
cy of Russia in her declaration OF
these fundamental principles.
suppose you are still in harmony
with what the Bolshevki in Russia die
in this war?
Senator Weeks:-Did you draw the
resolution?
Mr.. Townley:--No, sir; did not draw
the resolution.
Senator Weeks:-Do you know who
drew this resolution read by Senator
Reed-the resolution Of last Septenn.
ber?
Mr.. Townley:-Yes, sir; know.
can state in a general way. I coulc
not name all the men. Those resolu.
tions were drawn and signed by about
20 prominent farmers and labor or.
ganization representatives over the
west half of the United States.
Senator Newt suppose, as is us.
ually the case, some subcommittee
small in number, actually drew the
resolution. Do you know who drew
them?
Mr.. Townley:-Why, 1 think that
the actual work of drawing the reso.
luton was done by one of the repre-.
sentatives of the labor organizations
in Minneapolis and one of the news.
paper men.
Mr.. Townley:-I cannot give the
name. My recollection Of the working
of the committee was that at the time
that We had them up we discussed
them with the committee members
present. We discussed the changes
and sent somebody out to work on the
resolutions, but know that they were
adopted unanimously after they were
discussed.
Senator Reed:-Did you draw any
of them?
| Nj. Townley:-I never drew a res
olution. I cannot write a resolution
The Acting Chairman:-Do you ad
vocate an industrial democracy in tho
United States?
Mr.. Townley:-I most assuredly do
The Acting Chairman:-Will yor
define it?
Mr.. Townley:-As nearly as I car
do so; yes, sir. BY an industrial de
mocracy, I understand it to be an in
dustrial condition that produces raw
material and delivers it to the con
sumner without anybody on the wa!
taking unjust profits, either for nee
essary or unnecessary service.
The Acting Chairman: - That il
what they tried to do in Russia ant
that is what you recommended?
Mr.. Townley:-I understand this i
what they We're trying to do in Rus
sia. This is my Interpretation of thei
activities over there. If you will per
NIT me, I will state that l have
brother-in-law in Minnesota. I say
him the> other day and talked to him
He had a calf and the calf had died
He took the calf's hide into the mar
ket and got, think, $3.25 for tn
hide. Now, set Of harness costs hin
nearly $1O0. He fed that calf hay a
a cost Of Of SIS ton. That is not in
dustrial democracy. ~
Senator Wadworth:- How old wa
the calf?
Mr.. Townley:-The hide weighed 8;
1-2 pounds.
! The Acting Chairman: What wouls
be industrial democracy as applied t.
that calf? (Laughter.)
Mr.. Townley:-Well, that is JUS
the way to get at it. We used some
time ago to be able to take calf:
hide from the farmer, pay him five 81
six dollars for it, and manufacture i
into harness and get the harness bacl
for $25 to $50.
Senator Reed When did you ge'
S. for a calf's hide?
Mr.. Townley:-Well, there is {
large difference between calves.
Senator Wadworth:- this the
calf's skin?
| Mr.. Townley:-Let us apply it to E
full grown steer.
Senator Wadsworth:-They do moi
take calf's skin to make harness.
Mr.. Townley:-Well, let us take 6
steer.
Senator Reed:-You talked about
getting SIS or Sc for the calf's hide
and getting harness back for $25 OF
$50. In the first place, everybody
knows that you do not make harness
out of calf's skin. AT what period Of
the wold's history was that true?
Mr.. Townley:-I have not the exact
figuers to discuss this thing definite.
ly and say as to either now or &c
years ago. However, this calf's hide
lis made into harness, shoes, or some
kind of leather goods.
Senator Reed:-When was it that
you could get Sc for calf's hide anc
the harness would cost $25 to $50?
Mr.. Townley:-If the hearing is ex.
tended until tomorrow, might be able
to dig up some definite information.
The Acting Chairman:-Wasn't that
a rather reckless statement?
Mr.. Townley:--Let us amend it then
The Acting Chairman:-How woulc
you amend it?
Mr.. Townley:-I would amend it by
saying that two Or three or four years
ago a calf's hide would bring about
what it brings now, or more or less
but that the products made out of the
l ..1fS. Ill. would co11 - Al o.ooJ e.,