New-York tribune., 1918-12-05

member of the Senate and somo others
on this tribunal, and not until after
oeep consideration was the President
reluctantly convinced that this np-
continent would be improper. At no
time was there contumely or odium
cast on the Senate"
Debate Started Anew
A letter presented by Senator Reed.
of Missouri, Democrat suggesting that
league of nations with power to en-
force it's decrees is fools dream"
started the Senate discussion anew ate
IN the day Senator Williams, of Mis-
sssippi, Democrat, declared that n
peace league is not an impracticable
dream, and said he opposed endless
burdensome taxation to keep up large
military establishment if an agreement
between nations can be reached to
make it unnecessary.
In reply Senator Reed said the safety
o. the unitee States must be guaran-
teed either by "the strcngth o. our
own arm or reliance upon Other ma
'ions. Tie added that if other nations
Ven relied upon a reclnrocal obliga-
tion would follow to fight other na
Senator Reed said he did not want to
SEE anotner war fought in which Amer
lcan made cannon would not be ready
until fifteen months after the war was
over and in which except that Eng
land had rifle factories already ostab-
ashed IN this country, rifles could not
De made to arm American forces.
III EHgland retains her great fleet
ana nave no idea she viii relinquah
~ Senator Reed continued 81 want
'ne United States to be in position
OF safety. IL our navy had been three
times as large beeve Germany never
would have ordcr rs off the seas.
:, league OF Nalions goes no further
1nan TO agree tnat certain things are
proper and certain things improper
VIII meot with no opposition, bat a
league with power to combine and en-
1orce DEGREES upon single nation is
on. .aNt be ciieve the American people
will rcpudiatc.
Wants Big Navy Kept
The only nation that could harm the
united States, Senator Reed declared,
- Eng and and, he added nobody an
tlcipates trouble with that country
ne. errlng to Senator Reeds state
mont regarding England's blockade of
the North Sea, Senator Williams de-
clared that had not Great Britain taken
that step, America and the Allies would
have been defeated He said he wanted
to see England and the United States
control the seas because they are the
only two nations of the world that love
peace and will fight for peace
And | think that we are little bet
ter tempered to do it than even Eng
land he added
Senator Reed declared other nations
would laugh at the proposal that they
diserm on land, while Eng land was per-
mltted to retain sea supremacy. He
added that league Of nations implieS
a court of arbitration in which vital
interests of America would be deter
mined by foreigners. The Missouri
Senator suggested that the question Of
an arbitration court be placed before
the voters.
"You will get an answer in no un-
certain terms" he said. "The Amer
lean people have some common sense
left, If some other people have not"
Senator Kellogg, of Minnesota, advo-
Gated league of nations to maintain
peace - not super government to
dominate and interfere with nations
internal affairs, but world tribunal
for arbitration Of international dis
putes with lightened public opinion a
large factor in enforcing its DEGREES.
Il believe the time has come" he
said, ITO try to establish league to
prevent war and to enforce peace, which
may not be entirely preventative, but,
backed by world public sentiment,
will have tremendous influence tow
ard maintaining just and equitable re-
latlOns between nations and preventing
the horrors of war.
Needs Public Backing
"But I am not In favor of an imprac-
ticable-I might say, an impossible
scheme that / believe rests in the brain
far distant future. No league of ma
tions can succeed unless it is originated
in and sustained by an honest public
sentiment of the peoples involved, and
unless the governments joining in such
league are as responsive as the people.
These conditions exist to-day to a
greater extent than ever before.
Il deplore what seems to be the dis
position of the President not to take
the American people into his confidence,
especially that body of the supreme
ordinate treaty making body-the Unit
ed States Senate SO far as possible,
we should know his views upon the dif-
fcult problems which must be settled
in Paris.
81 would have the world in
formed as to the progress of the nego-
tiations and the principal issues in
volved from time to time between ma
tions surrounding the council table. 1t
is only in this way that healthy pub
lie sentiment can be expressed and a
peace arrived at which shall meet the
judgment of the civilized world.'
Turning to concrete plans for
league of nations, Senator Kellogg said
unless Germany evolves q government
responsive to popular will and with a
people having ideals and aspirations
different form those Of the past regime.
there must be league of nations to
"see that Germany is rendered power
less to renew the contest"
Another important step, Senator Kel
logg said, is abolition of the system of
secret treaties and alliances The new
treaties, he said, should be made in