New-York tribune., 1918-01-11

Former Head of Century
Company Bares History
of Suppressed Story
Archbishop Ireland
Called Enemy of u. S.
Article Rabid in Attack on
Virgin Mary and
Creed
Especial Correspondence1

Especial Cores spondence]
PHILADELPHIA. Jan. 10.--kaiser
William in the now famous interview
with William Bayard Hale, suppressed
bv the Century Magazine" in 1908.
severely arraigned the Roman Catholic
Church, acco, ding to William W. ELS
worth. former president of the Century
Company.
Mr.. Ellsworth. speaking before the
University Extension Society in With
erspoon Hall. said he wished that in
,eryiew could be printed now. for it
would do the Emperor great harm in
Turkey. Austria and in all Catholic
Countries
Mr.. Ellsworth said that he could re-
call little about what the Kaiser said.
but, at was highly indiscreet." he con-
tinued. "and was severe arraignment
Of the Roman Catholic Church.
The interview was so bad that it
WAS edited by the editors of the maga-
zine to eliminate sighting references
to the Virgin Mary. he added, in COM
menting on it after the lecture.
Mr.. Ellsworth told of the suppressed
interview during his intimate lecture
about the men of letters of the last
forty years with whom he became ac-
ouainted during his service with the
magazine.
Only two quotations from the kais-
er's interview remain in his mind, he
said. and he gave these tonight.
81 remember that in one place he
said that President Taft when Secre-
tary OF War had had the wool pulled
over his eyes in Rome in the deal he
made with the Philippine Frars for
their land He also said he considered d
Archbishop Ireland a secret enemy Of
America These are all the specific
references Il can now recall"
His story of the suppressed inter
view is as follows:
ut was in the autumn of 1908 that
William Bayard Hale was commits
stoned to go to Germany and obtain an
interview with Emperor William. Mr..
Hale found the Emperor on his yacht,
and one evening they paced the deck
for two hours while the Emperor talked
freely. knowing he was being inter
viewed. When Mr.. Hale submitted the
interview to the Foreign Office he was
told that it could not be printed in a
newspaper, for that would not be suf-
fcentiy digntied. but that it might be
or magazine.
Purchased for $1,000
"lr. Hale offered it to The Century
Magazine, and it was bought for
$1,000 The Century had it printed in
October for the December number. But
on October 2S there wa; published an
William in The London Daily 1ele-
craph.' and soon afterward a telephone
message was received by Richard Wat
son Glider, editor of The Century
asking him that 'rhe Century hold up
the interview it had.
"Mr. Glider was told that this call
came from representatives of the Ger
man Foreign Office He said it was
too late, as the interview had been
printed. Assurances were given that
all expenses would be borne and that
it would be considered a great favor
If the interview be not printed
Forms Are Destroyed
We realized that if any intimatior
were given that the issue was to bt
suppressed single copy would be
highly valuable. SO that afternoon
young man from the Office was sent tc
the printer and he quietly had ever!
one Of the 100000 copies boxed, al
forms destroyed, every proof sheet ant
every spoiled and torn page burned al
once.
Then the boxes containing the
copies were hurried to safe deposit
vault. The issue was completely sup.
pressed. but for days reporters loiterec
about the printing Office trying to get
some inkling of what was in the in
tervlew from printers and copy read
ers. Not copy was ever found. The
newspapers offered as high as S12,00C
for q page Of it. We were paid from
$4,000 to $4,000 for our expenses.
Soon after that Mr.. Glider met The
young German who had arranged it al
and asked him what should be done
with these boxes Of paper in the vault
You ought to send warship over fol
them Glider said jokingly.
Several weeks later telephone
message came to him. Your warshil
Is here it said. In New York Harbol
was a German cruiser, "here on {
diplomatic erran6," it was stated pub
hcly. The boxes we're taken aboard b,
night and the warship sailed. Later I
Young German officer aboard her tolt
the rest of the story. When five hun
cred miles out to sea they started t.
throw over the boxes, but the first ons
dld not sink. SO, fearing to ALLOW
'nese interviews to float around at sea
'hey brought back this box and thei
night after night the officers spent thei
time in the stokehole burning W
copies of The Century,
Sorry 1t Was Suppressed
81 wish we had published that inter
View for it would have hurt the EN-
peror very much He referred un
pleasantly to Turkey and to Japan. I