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METHODIST PROTESTANT.
THT.

First Methodist Protestant Church.
Seventh below Walnut street, Rev. Eben
\. Baldwin, pastor. Preaching tomorrow
morning and evening by Rev. +. T. Tagg,
ID. d, A. NJ, of Baltimore. 1890, Mrs.
]. A. Fitch of Philadelphia viii sing
Sunday school, and other regular meetings
at the usual hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
Salvation Army.

At the Salvation Army Hall 1O2 East
'ourth street, Captain Ernest Holz,
'fficer-in-charge, the meetings tomorrow
viii be in charge Of Captain Claude Bates
f Philadelphia, who is the War Service
ecretary for the Atlantic Coast Province
I the Salvation Army The usual meet
lgs will be held tomorrow. Tonight at
o'clock will be held SNOWFALL meet
ng" Captain Bates Will be the speaker.
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Zion Lutheran Church. Sixth and
Jackson streets Rev. s G. Won Bosse
pastor. Preaching morning and evening,
by the pastor: subject 1890. The King
dom Of Christ !" : 50. With Christ in the
Garden. Sunday school and other regular
meetings at the usual hours English
and German communion services separate
on Thursday. Confirmation at both ser
vices tomorrow.
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LUTHERAN.
ST. STEPHEN s

st. Stephens Lutheran Church. Tat
nall street near Seventh, Rev Frederic
Doerr pastor Preaching tomorrow
morning and evening by the pastor
Subject, 1880. The Perpctualness ol
EnliGhteninP 80. "a Blessed Mis-
calculation Sunday school. and other
regular meetings at tho usual hours The
ancient and sacred rite of confirmation
viii be administered 20 a class Of catechu-
mems in the morning
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EIShii EE.

Elsmerc Presbyterian Church, Elsmerc,
Rev. II. Framcr Smith. pastor. Preaching
tomorrow morning by Rev. Wilbur smith
assistant pastor at West PRESBYTERIAN
Church; II Framer Smith at 7.30. My
Brothers Keeper The Modern Answer
TO an Ancient Question" Sunday school
and other regular meetings at the usual
hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
CENTRAL

Central PRESBYTERIAN Church. klng.
street below Eighth. Rev ! II Crowford.
pastor Preaching tomo rrow morning
and evening by Rev ! II Crawford
Subject, 1890, The Magnetism of the
Cross 745. Tho Well of Bethlehem
~ s.. Sunday school. and other regular
meetings at the usual hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
OLD sWEDFs

Old Swedcs Church, Seventh and
Church streets, Rev Robert Bell, vicar
a. m, holy communion; 1880, morning
prayer and sermon; 2.30. Sunday school !:
80, evening prayer and sermon. Rev
Mr.. Clash will preach in the morning
and the Rev. +. NJ. Kirkus in the evening
The choir will sing The Palms
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Ascension Has New Organ.

The new Haskell organ in the Church
of the Ascension, ClayInont will be in use
on Sunday. This organ is given by George
Lodge and Mrs Anne Parrish in memory
OF their mother, Mrs. Emma Adelaide
Lodge, who for fifty years sang in The
choir Of Ascension Chi1rch
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,tIssInN ar rrrru

Services al the Mission of Truth. In1
West Sixth street will he A. follows Wed
nesdav and Fridas - Saturday Bible
study ? 30p ~ Friday evening. Aonna
7 Homes of Washington. u G. will
speak preaching SUNDAY AT \ y m. on
The Power Of Truth rs Lived Out IN the
Life of Christ
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MISC ELLANEOUS.
ST LURES

st Iuke's Reformed Episcopal Church.
Monroe and Eighth streets. Rev William
lamning, rector Morning PRAYER and
sermon at i0i5 subject. The Con
qucror's Challenge Sunday school IT
2h Evening PRAYER and sermon at
: 30 Rev " W Rugh will preach
Subject, Christ Delivering up the King
dom 10 the Father "Wednesday nj s
= m evening service. subject. Debt of
] Love tu Jesus
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IIIE.I MEFIInnIGI,

Services IN the Free Methodist Chapel.
seventh and Bennett streets, tomorrow
will he a. follows sunday school ~
a. M, class meeting, I II: preaching
and revival servlcr AZ 81 u III Revival
service every night next week except
SATURDAY Rev Charles Stursia nf
Salisbury. Md. will hc ~ charge
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REfnNn.

Second Baptist Church. Ninth and
Franklin streets, Rev. Thomas T. Hol-
loway. ID. ID, pastor. Preaching tomorrow
morning and evening by the pastor Sub
Iect l0.3G For Such Time ns This"
7.45, "Gcrmany's God and Germany's
Behavior" Sunday school and other regu-
lar meetings at the usual hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
SILyFRnHOpK.

The Rev. l.. h. Morgan, pastor of
Chincoteague NJ. +. Church. Wilmington
Conference will preach tomorrow morning
and evening in Silverbrook NJ. +. Church.
Services at 1890 a. IN and T. 80 p. IN.
Sunday school and other regular meetings
ut the usual hours.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
t.tlIiiEftI

Annual Woman's Day services will bo
held at Gilbert Presbyterian Church to-
morrow. At IL O'Clock the pastor. Rev.
T.. w. Coberth, will preach. At s 2. m.
n special program will be rendered. There
will be addresses and papers by women
from other churches. Special music has
been prepared for this occasion.
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FIRST UNITED

First United Presbyterian Church
Third and Broome streets, Rev William
Patterson, pastor Preaching tomorrow
morning and evening by the pastor
Subject. II, "The Divine Touch 45,
Sessions From the Life of Timothy
Sunday school, and other regular meetings
at the usual hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23

First PRESBYTERIAN Church. Market
above Ninth street, Rev J Ross Stone
sifer, pastor Preaching tomorrow morn
ing and evening by the pastor Subject
1880, The Triumphal Entry 80,
The Forgiveness Of Sins
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wrar

West Presbyterian Church. Eighth and
Washington streets. Rev |. Franklin
Smiley, d. u, pastor Preaching tomor-
row morning by the pastor Subject, 1890
"The Forsakcn Christ, 80. The
Triumphal Entry Pageant under the
direction of Miss Grace Baird with 50
children, SUNDAY school and other reg
ular meetings at the usual hours
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PRESBYTERIAN.
HANOVER.

Palm Sunday at Hanover Presbyterian
Church. Eighteenth and Boulevard. In
the morning Rev. T.. j. Reinkc Will preach
on the subject, "Acclaiming the king.
In the evening ut o'clock Mr. kelnke
will preach on the subject, "liezekiah s
Mistake"
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DRANDYwINF.

Braudywinc NJ. L. Church, morning
service 1890. Preaching by Rev DIR
J. s. Burnett of Chattanooga Tenn.
Sunday school at y. m, evening service
At Z. 30 p. IN. in charge of Epworth
League.
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rIHgr.

First Swedish NJ. f. church Eleventh
and Heald streets, Rev. Alb. w. Samuel
son pastor. With the Sunday services
the Rev. o. ForsRren Of Brooklyn n y.
clnees q successful series Of meetings
Morning worship 1890; evening worship
40 q clock
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
To Illustrate Mission Work

Lantern slides showing work done at
the different mission fields will be shown
at St pauls NJ f. Church, Monday
evening, for the benefit of the Woman y
Home Missionary Society.
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Y. W. c. A. Matters.

The membership committee Of the
y W G. 4. will hold u membership rail-,
on April II Miss Esther NJ IIawes the
executive secretary of the last Central
Field, will speak Mis-. seipp will take
the girls on hike this afternoon
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aIIN

Olivct Presbyterian Church Fourth
and Broome streets Rev joel :. Gil
fillan. pastor Preaching tomorrow morn
ing and evening by the pastor Subject
l045. is the Day Of Miracles Past .
: -. Serving Ones Own Generation
Sunday school, and other regular mcctngs
nj the usual hours
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
ST. PAUL s.

Class meeting at Q O'Clock. led by Rev
". G. Strickland. Preaching service al
1870. The sermon will be delivered by
Rev. L. L. Barrett. former pastor Of
st. Psuls. Special music will be rendered
by the choir, including tenor solo "Thc
Palms" by J. Walter Boyer At go
Dr. Barrett viii again preach, preceded
by gospel song service led by VIM. p
White, chorister.
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SUNDAY BRFAKFAsr MISSION

Services are being held nightly at the
Sunday Breakfast Mission. lis Shpley
street Neal Comfy will speak at 8
o'clock SUNDAY school at O'Clock Free
lunch Will be served TO the men Sunday
evening
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
BETHANY.

bethany Baptist Church, Elm and
jackson streets. Rev. John L.. Ilunsberper
pastor. Preaching tomorrow morning and
evening by the minister. Subject 1890,
The Broader Life" 80. personal
Testimony" Sunday school and other
regular meetings at the usual hours.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
Women Moose Initiate.

The Women's Loyal Moose Circle
initiated % new members on Thursday
evening. After the meeting adjourned
the members were entertained by the So
cial committee
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
rN1rARfAN

Rev William 4 Nrooman will preach
in the Unitarian Church SUNDAY. March
-, at l0.45 a m Sermon. Shall We
stand for Christianity or Paganism2"
Soloist. Miss Wales: organist Miss Bach:
Sunday school at IL o'clock
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ST. Johns

ii John Church, Concord avenue and
Market street, Rev Alban Richey, ID. ID j.,
rector. Preaching tomorrow morning
BY the rector at II O'Clock At 745 p m. .
the bishop Of the diocese, Rev Kinsman,
will be present to administer the apostolic
rte OF confirmation. 7.30 a. m, holy
communion; GAS a. m, Sunday school.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
ST. ANDREW $.

st. Andrews P. f. Church. Shipley
and Eighth streets, Rev. Il. ". Trapnell,
rector. a. M, celebration of the holy
communion; Gas a. M, Sunday school
and adult Bible class; l / a. m, conhrma-
tlen and sermon; AS p. m, evening
service the choir will render Maunder s
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
KrWONTH.

Class meeting $50, 1880 Rev, II.
Framer Smith. pastor of Elsmcrc Pres
hyterian Church will preach. address at
$50 by Mr. Frank Mitchell, Religious
works, secretary of the Y. Nj. G. A.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
IvrrRx.rroNAL nrnlr STUDENTS

VIII meet at Jr q. Z. A. VI. Hall.
9o1 Tatnall street Sunday : r. m W
\ Woodwork will speak on the subject.
-Gcthsrmanc Seats free No collections
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PROTESTANT EPISCOPAL.
lAfXARl

Calvary Church, Third and Washing
ton streets. Rev. Camille Estornel IN
charge. Sunday school. 9.45 a. m;
morning PRAYER and sermon, I045, no
evening service.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
RICHARDSON PARK

1890 sermon by Rev. Charles c.
Sullivan. IL noon Sunday school; 7.4a
preaching by the Rev. VIM. Jordan Of
McCabe Church. The Herman Glanding
Chorus will sing at the evening service.
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Attends Brothers. Funeral.

Mrs Arthur Sullivan left for Kansas
city on Thursday to attend the funeral
services Of her brother, who died there
suddenly on Wednesday
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PROGRESSIVE SpTRTTUAIIETS

Services SUNDAY evening at the First
Progressive splritualist Church. 900 West
street. Mrs. lllen Goff. reader Messages
by Mr.. Gillen from Philadelphia
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lnonde meeting, Tenth and Harrison
streets First Dav sunday 1T 1880 m
Bible CLASSES II ll3O for adults and
children
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NEW .IrRrtaAi.EAf

Church Of the New Jerusalem Service
Al 10 40 a m Subject of the sermon. The
Hour of Trial Rev George Henry
Dole. pastor
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rn1rNns

Friends Meetings, Fourth and West
streets. viii 10 held as follows tomorrow
First -dav nj I a m tifth-dav at A.
r. N First -,lav school az q a. a m
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OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES

Ascension. Claymont. 1O30. Grace
Talleyvillc, 80; Calvary. Hiilcrest 2 *
Bishop kinsrnan Will visit Calvary Hill
crest and confirm. Rev. j. Gibson Can't
rector, will preach at Claymont
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
Mr.. Huss 10 Sing "The Palms. >

Frank Huss will Sing '"The Palms. =
the 4 o'clock service, at Emmanuel
church, Seventeenth and Riverview ave
ole tomorrow
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
faIAfANUEsT..

Emmanuel Church prot Epis Rev.
liam ii. Lard, ID. ID, rector 7.45 a. m.
y communion; a. m, morning ,raver
sermon; |.4o p. NJ, evening prayer
address.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
ASBURY.

Asbury NJ. T.. Church, Third and Wal-
nut streets, Rev. George White Dawson
pastor. Preaching tomorrow morning by
REV. Robert G. Conner and evening by
Rev. John A. Asay.
Every evening, Wilmington daily commercial., 1918-03-23
METHODIST EPISCOPAL.
CIR ACE.

Grace NJ. +. Church, Ninth and West
streets, Rev. DIR. Herbert +. Randolph
pastor Preaching tomorrow morning
by Bishop Lewis at 1890 DIR. Randolph
will preach at 7.30 on Behold the King
Cometh." Sunday School at noon and
other regular meetings at the usual hours.
The Canon City record with which is consolidated the Canon City cannon., 1918-01-10
THE CAPTAIN AND HIS MEN

and while he is to take the best pos
sible care of himself he Is never to
finch.
will see to il that he is bathed
and clean. that he Is hard and fit
will never ask him to go and do IT, but
say, come on and I will show you
how. will try to keep whisky and
immortality away from him. / will
know where he is every hour of the
day or night. In other words will
take better care of him than you did
when he was at home. We have no
poolroom hells in the army. No street
corner gangs. When the war is over
he will come back to you a real man.
and. o, how proud you will be of him.
Above. everything else. write to him.
Write every day. II it is only line
Never mind whether he answers or
not We cannot always write. We
ance sometimes. the tired body needs
rest and food and sleep worse than
you need letter The majority Of US
are coming back, but IL we do not, as
one of my men put it. who cares .
not in spirit of bravado or defiance
but on the theory that every bullet
has its billet" and until get mine !
am going to do my best to do my bit
and carry on to the end.
Send cigars. pipes. tobacco. cigar
cites. sweets OF all kinds. Every pack
age you send is divided up with his
squad. You not only help him. but
possibly some one who hns no folks
nobody to send him anything. One
: of the most pitifuI sights have to
face is to see the man without family
or home when the mail Is distributed
He never looks up at the yell. "The
mail orderly is here" ! want You tc
help him. Ask your boy II there is
such a one in his squad. Send hin
a line or two.
In all this advice am bit selfish
for a happy. contented man Is cheer
full. easy to handle. ready to obey. anc
a pleasure to teach. He is n depend
able cog In the most important ma
chine Uncle Sam has and the onl,
one he cannot replace. for every goot
man in the army has his work to do
and when one OF them is absent a
roll call none can answer for him.
AN ARMY CAPTAIN.
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RED CROSS DRIVE GOES WELL
eOVER THE TOP IN THIS COUNTY
Goal of $500 is Easily Reached and Membership Total
May Go 5,0OO According to Present Indications
All of County Responds.

Heights Friday night to take some ac'
ton in the Red Cross campaign, The
gathering was addressed by A. II. Nc
Lain who described the wonderous
work being done by that organization
for those who are fighting the battles
of liberty in France and Belgium. AS
the result of Mr.. McLain's splendidly
patriotic talk every miner present
voted to become a member of the Red
Cross. Several speeches were made
by the miners themselves; all of them
loyal and patriotic. One of them de
clared that If the government will titke
of his wife and children and let him
dig coal here he viii gladly give. if
necessary. all his wages TO support
the Red Cross until the war was over.
The report came in this morning
from +. s. Beail. superintendent of
the local plant of the Empire Zinc
company, that the employees there
were 100 per cent for the Red Cross
and that all of them had taken out
memberships in it. Great credit is
due j. Z. Overman, Fred Joel and
others for this splendid showing.
The Diamond Fire Brick company
also reported itself a 100 per cent in
stitution for the Red Gross. It has
about seventy-fve men on the payroll.
This good result was brot about thru
the influence of j. H. Horney, Harry
+. Bowen and others.
Other business firms In Canon City
showing themselves to be 100 per cent
Red Cross in their 'sympathies were
the Arkansas Valley Railway. Light
& Power company, which has forty
one stickers on its window card, and
the Canon Steam Laundry. The en-
ployes of the Ohio Zinc company were
seen today in the interest Of the Red
Cross movement and very generous
subscriptions obtained from them. 1t
was impossible for the committee 10
see all of the men. about sixty in num-
ber, and 1t liz hoped that it will also
declare itself to be 100 per cent for
the Red Cross.
Tho total amount OF cash turned
in to the Canon City committee up to
S o'clock Friday afternoon was $2.327.
This does not include any of the sub
iscriptions taken at Florence. in the
coal camps OF the eastern part of the
county. .>
Window cards have been provided TO
all business houses whose proprietors
rand employees have become members
OF the Red Cross soceity.
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The momentum gained in the Red
Cross membership campaign on We'd
nesday. Thursday and Friday of last
week has not yet shown any signs of
slackening and is carrying the move
ment to every nook and corner of Fire.
mont county. A few of the more re.
mote communities have not been
heard from since the beginning of the
drive and others nearer in have made
only partial reports of what they have
accomplished in securing subscribers
for this splendid organization. The
campaign has been an enthusiastic
and infectious one and it is confident
" believed that when the returns are
all in II will be found that every neigh
horhood has done its full duty and is
entitled to praise for work well per
formed.
Mr.. c. A. Biggs. chairman OF the
general committee. stated this after
noon that Fremont county's goal Of
4,50O members for the Red Cross
would be. reached and surpassed. He
expressed the opinion that the num-
ber would be nearer 5000; a record of
which everybody should be proud. If
this figure is attained. as 1t Is predict
ed that it will be, II would be practic-
ally one-fourth of the total popula-
ton of the county. which is not much.
if any, in excess of 10000 people. II
the same ratio had been established in
other parts of the country there would
have been added to the Red Cross
more than 25,00O,000 members dur
ing the recent campaign. instead Of
less than half that number. which ap-
pears to have been the case.
The local campaign managers re-
port everything as going fine Much of
the success of the undertaking is at
tributed TO the very effective war
work organization which exists in all
parts of the county. Canor City and
F1ornce. South Canon and Lincoln
Park, East Canon and Fruitmere. Con-
crete and Portland, Penrose and Bea-
yer Park and the coal camps have
done magnificently and are entitled to
have their names written high on the
roll OF honor Cotopad and Howard.
Texas Creek and Hillside. Parkdale
and Guffey have also contributed their
full share to the success of the move
1netn and should not be forgotten.
A meeting OF the members OF the
miners union. embracing the employees
of, the Royal Gorge and Wolf Park
coal mines. was held in Prospect
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no LIVE LONG!

A. recipe given by famous physician
for long life was: rkeep the kidneys in
good order! Try to eliminate thru the
skin and intcstines the poisons that
otherwise clog the Kidneys. Avoid eat
ing meat as much as possible; avoid too
much salt, alcohol, tea. Try milk and
vegetable diet. Drink plenty of water,
and exercise 10 ycu sweat = the skin
helps to eliminate the toxic poisons
and uric acid
For those past middle life, for those
easily recognized symptoms Of inflam-
nation, AZ backache, scalding rwater, >
or If uric acid in the blood has caused
rheumatism. ~rusty" joints, stiffness,
get Anuric at the drug store. This is q
wonderful eliminator OF uric acid and
was discovered by Or. Pierce Of Invalids'
Hotel, Buffalo, N. Y. II your druggist
does not keep il send 10 cents TO DI.
Pierce for trial package and you will
find that IL is many times more potent
than lithia and that il dissolvee uric
acid "a hot water does sugar
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The following article was written
by an army captain for The Chicago
Tribune. 1t contains a captains ad-
vice to those in civilian life who are
writing to the soldiers:
AS q captain I believe that I have
the most responsible position in the
army. The company is the smallest
unit over which commander exercis-
es executive and disciplinary author
ity. If the companies are right the
regiment is right; when the regiments
are right the brigades and divisions
are bound to be right 49,
As a captain am in closer touch
with the men than any other officer
possibly can be. My lieutenants can
only carry out my policies. They have
no right to reward or punish-in fact
they are a greater distance from the
men than I am. 1 am responsible for
the food they eat. for the clothes they
wear. for the shelter they have, for
their physical condition. their mental
and moral viewpoint. For, in short.
that one thing that spells SO much.
their morale. cannot delegate this
authority to any one else. AS cap
tain is is his company. is an axiom.
So want to say through the Trib-
une word to the parents. wives.
sweethearts, and friends OF my men,
speaking in general way for all real
captains. who realize that they are
more than mere uniformed order Civ
ers. First of all, don't waste any
sympathy on them over their hard lot
A real man resents it. and none o.
them need it. They are well fed. vel
clothed. and as happy as they choose
TO make themselves. They do moi
want TO be babied. but do like to bt
petted and made much of.
If you have troubles at home. keeI
them to yourselves. and don't let YOU
soldier boys know about them. If yo,
lose money or the business goei
wrong, don't tell him. He cannot helI
you get it right If somebody sicl
minimize IT, They will probably b
well by the time you get an answe
back. In the meantime, you hav'
thrown one of my men out OF hii
stride, and he tells me of his troubles
and you add to my burden.
Encourage him in the glorious tasl
he has undertaken. Call him all thu
hero you want to. Tell him when b'
goes over the top that he is to thinl
of you as waiting for him to COM
home; but you want him TO go over
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Some Recipes for
the Housewife
Pi,an Of R,hbi,.

Bnving cut the rnbbit In pieces. put
II 10 saucepan In which you havs
heated two or three ounces OF butter
or lard. When the meat Ia slightly
drowned. sea-on with snit and pepper
and add medium-sized onion chop
ped In. Allow It to cook ten minutes
then add six tabiespoonfuis OF good
rice soup. I;ice used In soups Is par.
poiied In water for ten minutes. and
after wnter Is drnined on clear cou-
sornnie is added.) Aoistcn with nbout
one aud half pints Of boiling water
md reduce by boiling. Cover pan and
finish cooking In oven or on slow ars
~ minutes.