New-York tribune., 1918-12-15
Calls Hearst Policy After
u. S. Joined War Un-Anericnn

What purpose was 1t published y
"Of course Captain Lester replied,
the purpose of the cartoon is to show
that the bee is seeking the honey from
the rose. which will withcr away later
on, while the bee returns with what it
has gathered. The idea which would
be conveyed to me is that of warning.
don't think that cartoon--you have
asked my opinion-would be construed
as literally preventing an intelligent
person from subscribing to the Liberty
Loan, but | think it is a cartoon to
warn people to watch that we do not
lose the nectar that we have here and
let the Allies fly away with it."
A second cartoon, taken from the
"Deutsches Journal" on June 1s, 1917,
shows Uncle Sam, Columbia, the
"Geldteufel" ("moncy devil") and the
British lion. The legend under the
cartoon is:
THE LIONS SHARE"
England Is Attacked
Columbia standing at the window
with sign board "WAR LOANS TO
BE HAD HERE" is pouring her saw
ings into the hat of the "UNCLE OF
THE ENTIRE WORLD" while the
British lion is gathering into the eng
lish crown the<gold falling through the
holes in Uncle Sans hat. The hats
Of Belgium, France and Italy have been
filed up and the Russian bear and
Japan are coming to get their shares.
Greed" remarks: "Now there will
soon be no more poor DEVILS"
What would you say might be the
effect of cartoon like that upon the
popular mind, and what was the pur-
pose of publishing such a cartoon 2"
asked the Senator.
CAPTAIN LESTER-T effect on the
mind would be that the American peo-
pie were being used by the Allies, that
the only interest that the Allies had
in the United States was the money
that they could get out of her, and if
taken literally or believed, man who
was on the point of subscribing to
Liberty bonds, and that cartoon was
placed in, front of him on the street
cars as he came to his office, the
thought might go through his mind,
"Well, after all, think that am being
used personally, so l won't subscribe:
| am not going to waste my hard
earned money for people that are filch
ing it out of America"
SENATOR STERLING-I call your
attention to another cartoon, of April
16. 1917, entitled "America First" The
cartoon contains a picture of John Bull
at the left. On the right is fine figure
representing the United States army
John Bull is represented as saying:
Are you training those boys to fight
over here for me- Mr. Oficer?" And
the officer is reported as saying: "They
are to be trained in defence of the
American nation only"
What would you think was the OBJ
ject, purpose and probable effect of a
cartoon like that?"
More Cartoons Shown
Captain Lester-"The object of the
the thought that when our army was
raised and drilled it should be used
solely within the United States for de-
fensive purposes. The effect, of course,
would be to discourage the shipment Of
goods to the Allies"
Senator Sterling--"I will ask you,
Captain Lester, if the cartoon just
shown to you in its idea comports
with the following from The American
of April II, 1917, following the decla-
ration Of war, but before the passage
of the espionage act:
every shipment of food and mill
tary supplies from this time on is
A BLOW AT OUR OWN SAFETY"
"Now, our honest suggestion to
the Congress is that it imperatively
refuse to permit the further drain
age of our food supplies and our
military supplies and our money
supplies to Europe. We insist that
none of these things, at this elev-
enth hour, when the U-boats are al
ready launched in silent death Crap
pie, can have any decisive effect one
way or the other upon the Euro
pean cOnfllct.
If the Allies are to win they will
and they must win with what pre-
parodness they have, for all we can
send them now cannot possibly
change the result.
On the other hand, if the Teutons
are about to win we need every once
of food and every ounce of prepared
ness and ten times as much right
here at hand to meet that peril"
What do you think would be the
natural effect of publication of that
kind, and what was its purpose, in your
opinion"
CAPTAIN LESTER-If that publica-
tion reached every man Of mature age
in the United States and he believed it
there would never have been any sup
plies shipped to Europe from the date
of this publication or any army or navy
go over there, and the obvious purpose
was to convey the idea emphatically
that it was not the proper thing for
the government to do.
SENATOR STERLING-I call your
attention to the following, published in
"The American" of May II, 1917:
Our part in this war for months
to come is to pay the bills, to finance