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Books and Authors

o Ths and A"s%s, sSrSp %sr is this yGsr beth
o"sa n' four With Gisnets sE Mar s ne
~, ia, note Of chcerims ortinism and patriotism.
spans %"rS van Dyke MaT, Po' "S' ra az are n
n,ent and diversion
>one by iiowei Evans rriendess. fundi Gtrl
don. the heroine srueeed for foothoid. r here
wScncr m "Ge nGH iS S E s wns ,ao
al that mattercd: and at all times her pa
woman Who in i iomg strusge bea atK ibo y% nr,
inhumam;ty to man and Yet the author ma" nrc :
very at 9 '' IN is "amn the for hsnn in the
and the heaven Of human kindness,
Out = r. D mtr, CO are Gr,sparng bring
pie;c works OF Leonard Mcrrick that will for the
tom to RAIDERS GiTs IN this ednnry II M
at present. more than dozen volumes and to it
works Mr. Merrs ,}.o ma! n,oHnse The novsis
printed from nov plates Each volume viii
h TS an in'rodurti9n by some well-known au-
will contribute introdnc,ions arc Wiliiam Dean
" ocke and Sir W,:iam ro6 Sern1r HI"ai
IhH FIRST volume ct this new, edition to appear
tons Z" III have ready little later in the smmner
former days. :"
-. or 2r Frs, Year in the Gren, War" by Fran
has Just been pnblishSd by the ru,nanis. IS a
ho"h that merits wide circle OF readers No
body could be better nttcd this
period. 50 vital ard Interesting all OF us that
Genera! Greene. whose keen observation and
rtpt experience al! SO much to his natural
knowledge Of tine subject During the with
spain IL commanded the second expedition to
the PHILIPPINES Mas the senior oficer Of me
lolnL commission TO arrange the terms Of sur.
render. and himself wrOt. the articles Of rauitrI-
lation Genera! Greene ranh.' high a military
c:it;" ana historian. ms best known work being
The Russian Army ANA Its Campaigns
key. lS;I-.N" Tho Dntcd Service Gazette char
a"ter!zcd the book as one OF the most remark
ali . works ever published OF any campa ign"
and u vas used as q textbook At the Eng lueer
and ARTILLERY SchoO! a. Woplwlcn tor twenty
years.
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have no special desire to advertise my
ot course. he is speaking FOR his EN-,
ployers when he writes. Certainly
their knowledge and advice ought 20 be
more valuable than that OF mere
theor!st who never did anything in his
III" more than read lessons on city
government In textbooks, The writer
was a public officer for eleven years.
engaged IN d!ScharSinE administrative
and quasi Jud!cia! functions. under ely
ord!nances and State laws. u is pos
s!hie | may have imh!bed some know!-
edge 81 practica! governmental prob
reply TO the textbook" assertion
As Mr.. Dunfords Lob" is in the bal
cuss the proposed amendments. but
respectfully submit that assertion IS
not arsument. and his letter abounds
IN assertion. Mr.. Dunford is probably
an expert psychologist, as he under
takes to define what the action o. the
city Council! Will be in connection Win
He writes The Council Will hardly
rctuse; even ~ the hrst instance. 20
there any warrant for this presump-
ton? First. tho Council dared TO pro
pose the amendments in spite OF warn
mss, and threats OF dire consequences
TO that body, by members OF the .Ad-
ministrativc Board; and their reputa-
lion for good Judgment depends upon
partments under the system proposed
by them. surely the Council Will
dican their efforts BY the faiiure or Of a
Mayor 10 present the names OF CONNIE
tent men for positions as directors
The members OF the City Council
have not exhibited any OF the faint
heartcdness" members Of the Admins
trativc Board are cred!ting them with
As has been said truly by member
Of the Administrative Board. Section
40. of the Constitution of Virginia
governs. hence. the Mayor is the chief
executive of the city, the directors viii
q i'm
be because II is thus the public is en-
abled 10 nix responsibility and insure
courteous treatment from officials 10
his psychological powers when he
writes that the idea so generally pro-
nounced that the Administrative Board
ne opinion OF the vast majority OF
business men and other citizens who
nave had occasion TO deal with that
body and receive prompt, fair and i'm
partial treatment at their hands" If
Mr.. Dunford really thinks that way. he
ought to nave attended the meeting
heard the statements by representa-
tires Of two delegations who had oc-
GGaslon to call on the Administrative
them. and the story OF their reception
and treatment. In these delegations
were some very prominent business
selves or represent large taxpaying in
tercsts in this city.
am fairly certain Mr. Dunford,s
duties as clerk of the Administrative
formation as TO the mind of our citi-
nems IN relation TO the proposed amend
m nSn to our city Charter. and that
VIII be able TO count a large majority
Of the ballots cast that day, with a
vel, very distinct line. or lines. drawn
through words, Against Amendments"
O. A. HAWKINS.
Richmond. Va. July "a. 1918.
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Germany is greatly angered at the failure
10 get apprecable food supplies from the
Ukraine to feed her Starving population.
Control Of the government of the country
through German influence forewarned the
peasant farmers Of the spoilaton that might
b. expected TO follow. and they lost no time
"a removing their stocks Of grain and other
fuodstuffs to safe hiding places. With Ger
many, its another case of Mother Hubbard
.ind!Rg the cupboard empty when she went
to get her poor dog bone.
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Health Talks, by DR.. VIM. Brady
Why Photographers Meier Look Pleasant
tCopyrirh,. lolS oy iational Newspaper Service.

Workers in photographs plants are exposed
10 gloomy and ~ hygienic conditio ns--Darf ness.
poor vent ton. lnu all sorts of chemical poi
Therefore ,hey not likely 10 look
like well trained athletes.
Platinum paper. according to DR.. Karesek. of
Chicago. produces in persons handling it these
symptoms: PRONOUNCED irritation OF and
throat, with violent sneezing and coughing.
bronchial irritation, cracking and bleeding
fingers.
Metal produces characteristic rash of the
hands and arms which occasionally involves
other parts Of the body: the rash lies just un-
der the skin, AS patient desert cs it. il is
quite itchy. and when tie vesiclcs are pressed
watcry huid is squeezed out.
Persons developing pictures as a daily occu-
patton SHOULD wear rubber gloves TO protect the
ski from the constant irritation Of chemicals
lhoto-cnGravers use bcnzoi for dissolving
rubber hlns. alcohol ard ether for dissolvnls
o; films They are c%i oscd to ammonium di-
chromat" in s"nsitizng copper plates and to
chorid OF iron and nitric acid fumes IN etching
out OF 2li deaths in ten years among members
Of the Photo engra vers' Union. cigh y-eight or
80 per cent. according to Hayhurst. were due
to tuberculosis. cramDcd posture and confnc-
ment in poorly Ventilated shops. probably are
important contribt ting causes OF the high tu-
bcrculosis rate among such workers; and the
irritation OF the hreathint passages by fumes
rs probably unimportant factor.
II is well FOR any one engaged in work in
which bent over posture is essential. to. 50
- speak. iSradyize tho hours When the clock
strikes the hour atraiehten up. pull back the
shoulders. throw up the chest. draw in the chin.
the stomach and screw the smilc---just for a
moment two whether the boss Is watching
If the boss looks worried tell him /, is
doctors orders. good loud striking clock
should he part OF the equipment of every shop
Amateur photographers suffer no particular
pathological consequences except poverty.
which. after all, is generally good Tor the
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Aiding DrNcrtcrH.

+. 4. H.. Hopewell.--An act Of Con-
gresS provides that whoever shall en-
tice or procure or attempt or endcavor
to cnticc or procure any soldier in
the military service. Or any person In
the naval service of the United States.
or who has been recruited in such ser
vice. to desert thcreftom. or shall aid
any such soldier, seaman or other per-
son in deserving or i'm attempting to
desert from such ser dee: or who shall
harbor. conceal protect or assist any
soldier. seaman or other person who
knowing him to have deserted there
from. or shall refuse to give UP and
deliver such soldier, seaman or other
authorized to receive him. shall be
imprisoned not more than three years
and fined pot more than $1,000" This
law is Intended to cover every form
OF inducemcnt or argument to desert
no matter b. whom offered.
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Government requirements for the army are
expected to call for onc-thiTd OF the output
of canned tomatoes, % per cent of the total
output of canned peas, corn and string beans,
co per cent of the salmon pack, one-half the
output of canned cherries, and one-half that
of dried peaches 1t is perfectly proper that
The soldiers be fed on the best the country
produces even if the civilian population has
10 20 snort-rationed on many Injuries.
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I.cnling Religion In Germany.

- ". CArson.-'rhe religious denom-
nation with the most commandments
in Germany is the Lutheran. The
church Is credited with about 10000
900 commandments. The German Iiod
j.. one That they have created for them
selves. who is imagined TO have Sc
lcCtcd them as his chosen people. just
- tho Hebrews of old imagined their
God chose them as race upon whom
10 bcStow his favor and special prov
licences. This God the Germa ms
iinag ne helps them TO fight their bat
Ties and, according TO the Kaiser, re-
wards their efforts with victories.
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nothing of the resultant contribution to the
wants of our allies. which could he met in
no other way. With abundant crops assured
the food outlook for another year is all that
could be hoped with the single exception OF
sugar. the supply of which can only be made
TO meet the pressing necessities of our allies
by still further reduction in the allowance
for consumption in this country This oddi-
toaal sacrifice our people will chcerfully
make.
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tir.t Nul,roud Arro.. the Continent.

Reader. LynchburG.-Th completion
Of the first railroad which made II pos
siblc 10 70 from the Atlantic TO the
Pacific was celebrated on May 10. 1859.
when "a gold spike was driven to com;
Pacific and the Union Pacific Railways
at Promontory. Utah. The event was
comm morated in poem written by
Bret Harte The similar last spike of
the Northern Pacific was driven Sep
tember s, 1883, near the mouth of Gold
Creek in Montana. On the earlier road
the first through car was run from the
Pacific and reached New York City on
July "a, 1870.
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To the Editor OF Tho Times Dispatch:
Sur,-ldVing no objection 10 crafty
!ng the curiosity Of MIR. W W Dun
ford. whose letter appeared IN the col
umnS -: your paper this morning. in
stead OF signing this letter Citizen" |
sign my name. My only reason, for not
signing the former article is that
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1t is announced by the War Department
that it now has an army OF 100000 men iot
reserve officers. to be held until needed lhese
are mostly college young men between inc
ages Of eighteen to twenty-one, who nave had
military training and will attend the col
lese mems series Of officers training camps
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26
Information Bureau

Inquiries regarding almost nny topic.
excepting on legal and mcdicnI sub
jectn. arc answered free. As nil in
uuirien answered directly by per-
sonnl letter sclf-nddrenncd. stnmprd
envelope il required. Address The
fimr>-Dispntch Information Bureau.
Il ich mOnL, Va.
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j. NJ. ". OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES a per-
son buys Liberty bonds and war saw
ings stamps and contributes to the
Eed Cross and other war activities is
mainly a question of personal patriot
ism and humanitaria nsm. Any person
who asks whether the government can
compel him to do these things is lack
ing in both patriotism and feeling for
his fellowman. 1t is Il personal re-
sponsibility that rests on everybody to
do all he can to support his govern
ment in beating an enemy that would
destroy the United States government
and impose vast indemnity on the
people Of the United States il he could
do SO.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

1t would seem that mere man never knows
when he has enough trouble but must con-
tinually go about in search Of more. Not Suf-
iicientiy busy with the minor matter OF
Quoting the ccuntry's war against Germany
he needs must occupy his idle time in at
tempt 10 regulate the clothes that women
wear lie is commanding that she leave off
her corsets, pat her hair in nets. forget about
FRI nch heels and don the trousers of mascu-
Unity. Will his commands be obeyed? They
will not. He wil4triumph over the Hun but
so far as.1elhHg woman what she may and
may not wear and how She shall wear it is
concerned. he would better save his breath
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

c T. NJ. Petcrsburg.-There are at
least TWO American flags in existence
that were carried in the Revolutionary
War. one OF them. preserved in the
rooms Of the Masonic Grand Lodge at
Raleigh. y c. was carried by North
Carolina troops at the battle of Gull
ford Courthouse in 1881. and the other.
nov in the state House al Annapolis.
Md. was carried by Maryland troops IN
the battle of the Cowpens.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

This being 81 T,,,,,
pay. divine services viii be held at ST MarK ;
at IL Nj. Able minister's will ill the pulni,s ~" >
The old Virginia Bank building i'm pctcr.hur
is being converted into public hall ana tbnn -
because he did give a satisfac,ory horI
the city Council dcposed II. l.. Wigand n & col
icctor of city taxes. and elected Edward Winnie
the cash in hand \ commit tee from the
Council yesterday called on General Stoneman
VIII" quickly iSSueL AN order cornma,,dinr wi
gaid to turn over the pa pers. cash etc Io The
Council committee. which the said Wleand did
under solemn protest. - "
Mari; Grayson the Iede strian on his tr,mn
from Richmond to Omaha, Nen passed Charles
ton. w. Va. day before yoEterGay He * not
crying 10 make the Democratic speeches he
promised To make Ell route. aud expects to reach
Cincinnati tomorrow night
Il y. Bullock was inauEuratcd Governor of
tended the inauguration ceremonies The Gov
ernor. in his speech. lauded the ReDubIican
party hurrahed for negro suffrage and declared
himself to l": some radical. Bullock was said
there those who believe he has overstcone e
The mark III trying to. be Governor of A Great
state. o
At the OF the radical members of Con-
gress from the South, resolutions asking Con
Eres" to confer extraordinary powers on the
called in extra session adopted Xii the
speeches made in the were very Litter
General willard Warner was yesterday elected
United states senator from Alabama for the
short term. lie is from Ohio has been in Ala
hama about year, was an officer on General
her OF the Ohio state Senate.
The Southern radicals In Congress are very
anxious 10 have new Impeachment. proccedins rs
against President johnson.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

Effect OF the failure of The latest German
offensive is bound to be reflected in increased
n0:itical unrest IN both Germany and Austria
ndced. The resignation OF the entire Aus
TRAN Cabinet, just announced, though pri-
manly due to the refusal OF the Polish parlia-
mentaiy party longer to support the govern
ment, likely was FASTENED by growing acute
ness OF The situation caused by the German
defeat. in face o! the dual Kingdoms grow
ing unrest, il is TO be doubted if Emperor
Charles viii be able TO constitute a new Cabi-
net that Will stand for any length OF time.
unless IL shows al the outset Of its assump-
ton or power decided inclination TO yield
TO the popular demand for peace
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

reduced weight by taking Karcl regimen How
take it MRS. ID. w.
AnSwcr.--l take IL with resignation and a
firm resolve to retain any youthful. proportions
gained, More satisfactory directions will be
sent by mail il YOU send the indispe nsable
stamped addressed envelope aud repeat your
request. haven't space to print II here.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26
News of Fifty Years Ago
From the Richmond Dispatch. July 20 1865
Rev. Robert y. sledd. one

Rev. Robert y. Slcdd. one
or the ablcSt and mos, elo-
queit ministers OF the Vir-
Einih Methodist Confer
tnce. is spending a few
lays III the city. and viii
on sunday fill the pulpi, OF
che Clay Street Methods,
Church at IL 4. NJ. IL is
certain that the eloquent
alrine VIII be greeted by a
large congregation.
Thc Gailego Mills in this
city are daily rcreivin,,
a E consiSuments 81
wheat from Georein AMI
tennessee.
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y friend of ours joined the army and said he
wanted To, do something big So hcy set him
to painting dirgibe ,anears. He paints one
every six weeks
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

After midnight OF July 81 be careful wbo,
YOU say when calling up to gossip over the
wire with your neighbor; President Wilson
may be listening in at the Washington and
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

The season has arrived for the Virginia
partridge TO get busy on his old Bob White"
notes.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

Fashion journal says SpatS Will go out of
style ;hs year--but not III some families. we
feel
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

lt the husband has the stomach Of AN ostrich
and the wiie has its feathers. they are both
happy
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

us long and costly route from he peach
orchard 10 the ultimate consumer of the fruit
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sn,in. Only Ills Mc.; Ticket.

The following want al has been discovered
in u Michigan paper:
owing to reduced circumst anccs. hard times
and general disposition Will july IL sell
every ming my farm hut my wife---the school
teacher. J. y. HAMMEI;SLEY."
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, NV. "''''e 80 ,,, - =,
! .ninx~ -, nv ''r,a n"'m ,s,r,c =, ~ snnaS
, go ~ y, " ''''"'' % "
- ,e ~. - ou.S !"" ,'i 81 ha -, " ,,, NV
w. ,,,"s, -. -. n,,n, n
~ "'','"s ",'
~
:. ~, ,,.h,a IN. ,,, stomach of n, ,str,,,
-
r,snio, ;ourr.I saws sp,,s viii ~, an, -,
,r,o .,ir e,rbn, M, !, som, f,,,il,or ws
When We used to feel nunk. We said we fol,
like 30 cents
rycrvtbt,r has .oro nm O., ,,co,,,, 30 tho
war
Two htck wooden-shoc dancers cot ,brourb
Wit, their &C, in a New York vaudeville house
and never go, \ hand They were discus,od
wings and watched the next act vito, Lack
and getting big results from tho audience In
fact tho audience was wild over bi,
one of this woodcn-shoe dancers watched
I.ackayc for "A moment and then said TO the
other: 80 that's what they want eh: Well
well give en- that next senson
happy
He is a young man in splendid health
lie has host of good friends
He has lust married Mrs Alfred Cw.-,na Wv,
After being in love wish her for v.,r~
And-Ae has in his keeping at one time or
another
All tho money that There ;e
Rcnor; says: The Germans wcr. ,noov.a
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

When used feel punk. said we felt
like 30
Now say cec like 30 cents
Everything has gone up of the
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Voice Of the People

Letters must give the name and nd
drcSS OF the writer. Nnmc VIII not he
published II writer requests.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

rELII'iIOSE: >itn ndolph l.
private Branch Exchange
connecting with all depart
mrItS.
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ADDRESS ALI. OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES Tho ifhcs'
5,t IT, n n tn individuals
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Quentionx md Answer.

About This Here Now Karel! Regiment
notice In the paper many people who have
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

PUBLISHED every the .cnr at 10 south Tenth
street. The Tnie--ptspatch fuo.
~ i,slnnE Co. Inc. Charles l.. HasbiNoh Eaitof an"
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

ERtSCii OFFICES: Wash =
inston. lil6 New York Ave
nue.: .,ew lort. CitS. flttit
Avenue BuilU.nE; Chicago.
Peoples GAS Buiiuihr.
Phiindeiphia. Mutual Lie
building.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

In about another mon!h lot Of middle a ged
gentlemen w:u begin working their sons way
through college.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

MEMBER OF TIE i'SOCIiTEn ., rK RI. H-c tr
iepuD. a. all dspntches cTcutcd 10 !" ,% %s
ciEc ted paper, INC
~, nrw. nui.,r. herein All rights "i rcpubicu-
on OF .peci .spIiriics herein are ais" rcser|eu.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

4 train!oad Of col"red troops arrived IN New
York the other day, and the train duc;cd
through The tunn-! under the city and 10
the surface on Long Island one OF the soldiers
stucE his head out OF the window and yelled
"Fo' lan's sake, boys yere is in France at
last
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26
THE DISPATCH

n I.ntere,j .J,nunry .. 1905 u tho lo>t-Oirc Mt
$50 Richmond. Nn. second-ci,s> matter
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

Fifty cents for haircut will he the new
order in few we cks. il is said Well.
put il up in curl papers and bra ids
If we have to- and then again we can get jobs
professional! piano players or proprtetors .!
Wild west shows
Always solution.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

FRIDAY JULY %. 1918
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

y young woman in Richmond wears Nh
with nine service stars on il. Eot nine brothers
-nino &wcethcarts The real wi!i start
when this - over.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

When Colonel Roosevelt insists that the war
he spcedcG up. hope he does not refer 10 the
between himself and i'oSin1aStr'icneral
EurlrSon That has broken the speed limit
already.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

IN to the present moment the Ecrliner Ta-e-
biatt has not announced any C-boat attack on
Pea Ridge, \rk Overlooking IA bet
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

There is something new to worry about. One
of the scientists in New England makes the
announcement that he has discovered that ";he
life Of the average anglcworm is only fifty four
days. seven hours and eleven minutes If
there IS any more bad news. send it along.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

Nothing legs han S!oo ior 4 sui, of clothes
next fan CHI W.N. ", have cot Good rain
water barre back Of IL house We wil! e
business usual.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-07-26

Report says: The Germans annoyed
by a hot American onslaught in Relleau wood
Wonder how long i; will he before we viii!
have them downright pcevcd?