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The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
LAKELAND'S TOTAL
PLEDGES FOR war
SAVINGS over
100000

With pledge cards still drifting into
the War Savings Office, Lakeland has
PASSED the one hundred thousand do;-
lar mark. The total Of pledges re-
ceived until Saturday morning and { {
sales at the postoffice through Fri
day, figured at maturity value CT
stamps, is SOL ,O99.5O. The colored
POPULATION have turned in cards which
when listed will probably raise this
amount another $1,000. The Office has
several hundred dollars in late ar
rivals. The total may possibly reach
S1O5,OOO.
IT will be difficult matter, in fact
an impossible matter, to state how
nearly every district has approached
the mark Of its quota. Previous to
the drive, the postotfice had made
many sales and no record of the buy,
ers were supposed to have been kept.
During the campaign, these owners Of
stamps were either out of town or
else they failed to report the amount
already owned to the solicitors. The
solicitors located" only $5,S72.25
worth of stamps already owned"
while the sales at the postoffice were
in the neighborhood of $4,000 before
the drive began.
The amount of pledges and cash
purchases obtained during the cam
paign totalled 73,361.75; and this
amount by teams or by districts fol-!
lows:
Captain Quotas
Office. 1850
No. 1 &2 1852 ]. c. Owens !. IS 500
No. g.. 2,72O H, L. Isaacs. ,.. $500
No. A.. !. 4,7O5 c. E. Todd. j. 1890
No. s.. 6,525 ]. S. Jewett 26,1O0
No. g.. 7,159.75 W. F. Sneed. 1890
No. z. !. 1925 A. H. DeVane. .?1 500
No. s.. +. $3.50 c. H. Williams. HOO
No. 9. 1875 c. Anderson -. $4,000
No. TO-. 5,31O E. M. Patterson. 500
No. H.. 1890 c. Anderson ~. 500
No. -. 1920 w. L. Thompson $500
This does not include amount Of
stamps owned previous to drive or
stamps bought at postoffice not apply
ing on pledge.
Those who have pledged certain
sums to be paid before the end of the
year on the war savings drive, should.
On buying stamps at the postoffice,
see that the amount purchased Is
credited on their pledge cards which
are at the postoffice. Otherwise a
committee will call on them before
the end Of the year for the full
amount.
the Fourth to the highest bidder, the
proceeds going to the Red Cross. Mrs
Wider has also made some table COW
ers of flannel, which, like the rug
are artistic specimens Of fine needle
work.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

The United States is growing lum-
Der at the rate of 10000, 900, 900 board
feet a year, and using it at the rate
of 100000 100000 board feet annually.
1t is reported that Of the 100000, 900
or more acres of original forest land
about 30O,O00,O00 acres have been
turned into farm land, while 65O00,-
900 acres have been cut and not re-
planted
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Mrs. Will F. Wider has made very
beautiful crocheted rug from outing
flannel scraps left from pajamas made
at the Red Cross rooms, and this beau
tiful piece of handiwork will be placed
in the window of the State Bank on
display, and will be auctioned off on
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Immense crowds all day have wit
messed the Beast of Berlin" at the
Casino, one Of the biggest and most
spectacular pictures ever brought to
Lakeland. This picture has been a
big drawing card in all the cities
wherever shown, and tonight will no
doubt be a record breaker in attend
ance.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

ss Lydia Steitz has resigned as
ographer at the Chamber of Com.
.e, and will, after the 10th be
the firm of Whitney, Spencer &
mt. Miss Ralph, a teacher in
Sarasota schools last year and a
competent and capable young
an. Is with the Chamber of Com.
q for the present.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
RED CROSS PLEDGES
NOW PAYABLE At
Peoples STATE BANK

The first installment on pledges to
the Red Cross fund are payable July
list.
Please pay them now at the Peo
pies State Bank.
IRVING TRASH.
War Fund Cashier
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
U. D. c. To Meet Tomorrow
With Miss Fannie BIankenshjp

The U. D. G. will meet tomorrow
afternoon in called session at the
home of Miss Fannie Blankenship at
$40 South Tennessee avenue, the
meeting being called for $3.50 o'clock
A full attendance of the members is
desired.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

would roll off my mind if you would
Think, Mama, of what other mothers
have done and some of them have
just as dear sons as you have.
Lester is getting along fine and !
know will for have the confidence
and know | will come back.
Am going to look for a favorable
answer soon and then can sleep
with a clear conscience. Answer
soon.
CLYDE.
80 Co. Rep Regt.
Am going to try and have the pic
lures made Wednesday.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Mr.. Julian Mayes, son of Mr.. and
Mrs. R. l.. Mayes, is now in training
at Camp Jackson, his address being
2lst Company, Depot Brigade. Camp
Jackson, S. G. Mr. Mayes has been
a typewriter salesman for a number
of years, in which work he was most
successful.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Mr.. George w. Peterkin leaves to
night for Savannah, Ca. where he
goes on business. 1t is possible he
may locate there If he finds the prop
osition he goes to investigate, salts
factory.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
ELKS, ATTENTION!

All Elks are hereby notified to be
at the Elks' Club at 3 o'clock Thurs.
day morning in their white uniforms
to take part in the Fourth Of July pa
rade which moves at 10 o'clock. The
entire membership Is desired in the
parade.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

tallahassee is preparing for a big
ade and speaking on the Fourth
July and we note that Mrs. ]. G.
lum, nee Miss Ruth Conibear, of
city, is in charge of the music.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Mrs. William Steitz writes from
George, Lizotte's splendid hotel at
Indian Beach that Mrs. Terrell, Mrs
Spencer and herself are enjoying the
relights of that resort greatly, the
bathing and fishing being par excel
lenc.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

t. Paul Windham and Miss Min
Jones, of Tampa, were visitors to
Gland today the guests of Mr. !.
iham'e sister, Mrs. W. j. Per-
Mr.. Windham has enlisted in
cavalry and expects to leave soon
lamp.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

RS. Tia McCreight leaves tonight
Stanton, Va, where she will
i'd the next three months visiting
daughter, Miss Muriel McCreight.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Mrs. j. R. Boulware expects to
leave next week for North Carolina
where she goes to visit relatives and
friends for several weeks.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

rs. J. H. Kennedy, of West Lem
street, is seriously i'll at the
sview Sanatarium, which her
y friends will deeply regret to
4. It is to be hoped that she
soon be on the road to recovery.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Ir. and Mrs. F. r. Nichols and
Id and Miss Strickland, leave to-
row morning for Pikeville, Tenn,
sre they will spend the summer
y pleasantly.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

drs. G.. w. Dudley, after a brief
y at her home here, is again in
ando, where she is at the Florida
litarium for treatment.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

War conditions have cut off our
supply of digtalis, and we are
obliged to turn to our resources for
the drug. Tinctures made from the
species -glove-common in Wash
ington and Oregon-compare favor.
ably with those made from the i'm
ported article.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Prof. j. W. Shelley expects to leave
Thursday for Tennessee, where he
will spend the remainder of the sum-
mer with friends and relatives.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

r. A. F. Pickard is spending few
} at Tallahassee and other points
he northern part of the State. He
expected to return home tomorrow
~
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

apt. and Mrs. J. A. Ratliff and
9 daughter have returned from a
+. with relatives in Orlando and
, Castle.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01

Help fight the war. Pay your way
with War Savings Stamps If you can
not go to the front.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
Lakeland LucOniCS

Iiss Mamie Adams has returned
ne from a short visit to her sister,
B. Carlos ALL of Lake Wales.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
B COMPANY HOME GUARDS

Regular drill will be held Tuesday
night July g. Assembly at usual hour.
c. f. TODD, Second Lieutenant.
The Lakeland evening telegram. (Lakeland, Fla.) 1911-1922, 1918-07-01
In Society
Fourth Of July Dance At
Elks Club To Be

FOuTtn OF July lance Al
Elks Club To Be
Largely Attended
The Fourth of July celebration
will come to a close with a dance at
the Elks Club, at which time the
Elks and their friends will enjoy a
Script dance. The entertainment
committee is making arrangements
for a tremendous crowd, and the ball
room will no doubt be taxed to the
utmost.
The Home Guards Of the county
are especially invited to the dance.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
MANY ARRESTS ARE MADE
IN CHICAGO BOMB CASE
Widow of Man Hanged Following Hay-
market Riots IL Also 1nkcn
In Custody.

CHICAGO. September G.-Two men
named Wilson We're taken in custody
to-day in connection with the planting
OF IA bomb IN the Federal Building We'd
ncsday and both have been identified
as having been In the poSt-oftlce short
ly before tn. explosion which killed
four persons and manned many oters
Police do not charge that either man
was implicated In the plot, but states
Httorncy lioync tonight said that one
OF the Wilson's was the man who placed
the bomb.
William y. Haywood. convicted secre-
tary or the |. w. w.
Harry Wilson was arrested at tho
home OF Nina Van Zant Spies, widow
OF August Spies. who was hanged for
dyna!niting in the Haymarket riot
some thirty years ago.
Both Wilson's proclaimed their in
ncccncc. Mrs. Spies was also taken
in custody. as was Mrs. Minnie wy
mann. AZ hrst said to be a sister OF
haywood. but later described as a
friend OF the |. w. w. secretary
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
BRITISH CROSS CANAL. DU SoRD
ON NEARLY WHOLE IsRoSr
~ AsSOCiAtrd Prtss


LONDON, September G.-Bri,,.,
.foops to-day captured Ncuve-C haprI,a
:, Field Marshal Haig's forces crosse,
the Canal du Nord on the whole ~,
except IRON Havrincourt north to ~
The French hav" .ccurci \ GOOD ho,a
on the northa-n h,!.E Il Inc Aii ,,I,a
a amd on 1ho The BE-. terrain between that river
II theT are not actually on the IIinden.
burg line al ST. Gohnin lnassif
. The important feature OF this ,nor,-
inS.s news - .h4' the Cannl 6u Ma
mas been crossed by the British ON ~
whole front except from !Iavrincomr,
70 tae ltlVe;' Sc,,rD@ and TIA. Inc Frcnch
and British have secured a footi,tc on
the eastern side OF the whole w., "a, ~.
line line. down SI TO Ham. The entente allied
f3rces now are about four miles rrn,n
Ham and still making progress
:. Attention frequently has been cauod
TO the SommeDu Nord and Tort;iIa
water line as being Il check n ,nc
progress OF tanks. This check nm,
has been overcome, and except in tba
north there is now no wa:.. lin, To
tween the entente allies mi the. Hin
denburg line.
From Havrineour,: the. british line
nov runs 70 the yes. OF Eauuncourt
and through Bussu 10 Mons-en C6atisNN
see, Athies and Matieuy. three and
one-half miles northwest of Ham.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
ENEMI'S RETIREMENT DUE
TO DEFEATS IN SOI-TyI
tRy Asso lated Press.


LONDON. September 6.-Thc French
and American advance on "a tiftv-mils
front in the AiSnc region. with the re-
coNery of great extent q: territory
AZ We'll as important enemy POSITIONS
Was the main feature OF the battle news
up TO this morning. The expectation
tnat the French and americans would
ne ahle to enter on the work of DRIVING
pack the Germans when the necessary
sackeninG OF the British advance took
place has been amply fulfilled
me severe character OF the lighting
along the southern end or the i50-rnits
I'm" on which the Germans are retreat
ihS hardly has been realized here II
being temporarily pNcrshadowed BY the
sensational events further north
gains recorded in the French official
communication are the reward of the
intense combatS in the last week in
which the French and Americans haj
10 overcome the desperate and IT,.
nacious resistance of some OF the best
German troops
The Americans on tho heights to IN.
south OF the River Aisne We're reported
or Thursday TO be encouutcriug a some
what increased Inacltrne- and a.
4v'N - >.aur", ru. ln-, were, .tpin
to push forward and to contribute in
an important degree 10 the DAYS sue
CeSScS
There now is confident expectation
that further progress will he made
ana II l. believed here that the enemy
Will be compelled 10, retreat even be-
Eond the Chemin- dcs Danes. The situ-
ation seems to bc unfolding RAPIDLY
ana further developments are awaited
with great interest
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07

wards TcrEnier. which il two and 4
half miles west OF La Fere.
FURTHER north the Ham -GuiScard po-
Siton has been turned. aud the enemy
IS rctrcatinS all along the line with
the utmost speed.
South Of the Disc General ManEin's
troops are pressing in close 10 the en-
eny's line from which he launched his
spring offensive. In the region of the
lower forest of Coucy. French troops
are within mile of that line at hill
80 and in front OF Frcsnes
Near LauauS General Mangin's men
are within four miles OF the Chemin-
des- DANES and only about ten miles
from the Citadel of Laon.
The forest OF st. Gobain. which was
the cornerstone of the Hinde nburE
position at the angle where the line
turns to the eastward along the
Chemin-dcs Danes. is under the fire of
French guns over its whole extent
Just south of the River Disc the
Germans this morning were still re-
SiStinE at Sinceny. between the river
and the lower forest of Coucy, with the
evident object OF saving their material
further south.
The line now follows practically the
1917 front. North OF Landricourt the
French are lighting from their old first
line OF trenches. while little to the
southeast they are approaching that
!!nc AZ the ravine Of NauXaillon
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
j. S. SOLDIERS BLINDED
IN WAR WILL Be TAUGHT
First Group Already Assembled ut
Hospital Just Outside City
Of Baltimore.
TEXAS DRIVER IS A PATIENT
Use of Typewriter Is One OF Courses
Instructors Have Developed.
Policy Is to Keep on Feeling IT
Ultra-USelessncss.

them who shall exist in darkness to
the end Of their days-sold!ers who
q the price of victory the army ma.
shIinery of Of; Treeonstruction is nov be-
S siiai TO Junction n At general hos
and under the Special Red Cross insti.
tute for the Blinded. tho. first group
Of nine has been assembled. and il
over the intricacies Of Braiie type. talk,
ing the first steps on the long road that
VIII end when senses OF touch and
that will to some degree compensate
for the missing optic nerve. There
are ten more, on the way back from
up to recent date. this was the total
nutaber of the absolutely sightlcss
that american armies had TO report.
accident and disaster incident TO han
ding OF explosives accounted for "A
larger proportion than did casualty
norman. Texas truck driver. first
man TO come into the hands OF the
institute and now It's prize patient. was
france pinned to the ground under his
engine. He lived. but the optic nerve
p was paTinly 6si Yet nov after com,
read and write the Braile. which is
The curious set of dots pricked through
paper which spells out letters for SEN
out on typewriter accurate letters
Tor any PERSONS reading. Teaching
the use OF the typewriter az a future
occupation for the blinded soldiers is
one of the courses which the inStruc-
tors have developed.
Having very particular girl friend
in New York. and exchanging cores
pondencc with her. X grew just /, bit
en- ba raising to Sergeant Z!mmerman
TO require attendants TO read all her
return letters to him. When his en-
barrass,ncnt was discovered young
woman lending auxiliary aid to tho
Red Cross boarded Il train. aud is now
in New York. teaching the girl 10 write
Braile too.
This is fair sample Of the extent
TO which the eStraotiicial care is going.
The Library of Congress has long
the blind. with It's extensive puhlica-
lions In Braile. Mrs. Gertrude Rider,
who heads II. has been an active as
sistant TO the institute, which is
building OF It's own: There Is cheer
up" book now being prepared which
VIII assist the soldier students TO
learn as we'll as to entertain. the heads
OF civilian institutions for the blind
have been interested in the effort.
AS yet. the institute has no grad
the soldiers Will not be discharged
until they have become proficient in a
new occupation. and able TO maintain
Independence. The idea Is no; 10 keep
them off n pension list-thc insurance
policies they hold provide 800 month
to keep them from want-hut TO keep
on the feeling OF usclessncss that leads
to dispair. and hold out for them
definite place in life in spite of the
handicap that has been forced upon
as all tho mutilated in the nations
casualty lists
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07

not be discouraged by the oncmy's
tiics or victory. Among our enemies
the press works under state control.
ana the newspaper writer failing TO
represent the government view is sim
ply sent to prison.
We In Germany and Austria Hum
gary. on the other hand. stick to "a
Tree press. Even under wars compul-
SION we do not want to shacklc public
opinion. Only i'm that way does poli-
ties promise success. That Is my pro-
found convic,ion."
In conclusion. Admiral Won Hintze
SAID he had been deeply affected dur
ing his conference with Emperor
Charles. and by the Empcror's gracious
reception. He had discussed with tho
Emperor and the Austro- Hungarian
statesmen the terms OF the Teutonic
alliance. and all the discussions were
inspired by the spirit or harmony which
for more than four years had been more
closely and intimately uniting the
TcutOnic allies.
y semio;'icial dispatch received here
from vienna says that during the three
days discussion between Admiral Won
Hintze and the Austro- Hungarian
statesmen. notable progress was made
in the solution OF the questions dis
cussed, which Included the Polish situa-
ton.
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
SPARKS OF REVOLUTION
FLYNN N GERMAN ARMY

li'S fhs7o'. IA '"I IreSs.
Il r. 7 II HEADQUARTERS IN
j kANCE September s.-Sparks or rev
"!ution seem TO b" flying even thicker
IN certain parts OF the German army
Numerous prisoners taken bv IN. Irii
ISM mention the distribution OF uacifis;
ana Revolutionary pamphlets among
one, prisoner, Who recently had re-
turned from leave said that when in
company OF ii large number Of IA
NhrlanS he was shown rcvolution.ry
pamphlets which h.: was told were Ne
Ins "ia"lY circulated. All the parlph =
lots. he added. were violently AKIN
r it,;.!,n and appealed to the men to
IT was asserted that the command
LIZ oihccr OF the One Hundred and
ihirtyc seventh Pioneer battalion Of
lhc second Division was ghCt re-
Gently by his men when he attetnni.d
10 stop Il panic-strickcn rush from he
\ battalion surgeon cap,urod said
~ the, I"Eincntnl officers h. kncw.
n'iltNcd mat General Luden.orT would
hEht delaying action until the allied
oNchS!Vcs had died out. saying ia II.
eht" divisions for a COuutnygf roll,
pf"para IONS for which now we're be.
" the allies ever reached tho pb,pc
Edd tho doctor, Germany y.nilII tnak q
p"MGc. u" matter a. what price
IN" doctor Sccmcd congidc,,bjv ,.,
oarhcd that the Rhine Nigh, DO reach
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
SEVERE CANADIAN SUGAR
RESTRICTIONS IN EFFECT.
Ration Haif-Pound Below That Per.
mittcd by United States Food
Administration.
MANUFACTURERS CURTAILEu
Provisions OF Law Limit Use Of Too
Much Swcetening in Manufacture
Of Canned Fruits for Sale-PenaI-
ties Heavy on Violators.

WASHINGTON. Sept. G.-4seports
that tho Canadian government is plac-
Ing no restrictions on the use OF sugar,
and that citizens of this country. mere
~ by crossing the border, may pur-
chase In large amounts. are emphati-
cally denied BY the United Suites food
administration.
The Canadian food board recently is
sued Il statement calling for rcduc-
ton OF Canadian sugar consumption to
one and one-half pounds per person per
month--half Il pound below tho honor
ration" requested in this country by
the United states food administration.
All regulations governing tho use or
holding OF sugar will be rigidly en-
forced, the Canada food board has de-
clarcd. IT is taking strict measures to
prevent boarding, in most cases i'm
posing n Jail sentence as well as "A
heavy hnc. Manufacturers are strictly
curtailed in their use OF sugar and
householdcrs are prohibited from pur-
chasing in quantities which would war
rant consumption OF more than the re-
qucsted allowance.
Citizens of this country would be
running serious risk II they attempt
ed 10 purchase sugar in Canada. AL
though restrictions there are placed
upon the purchaser rather than upon
the retail dealer severeS penalties are
provided for attempted deportation to
the United States without an individual
eSDort license from the Canadian War
Trade Board. which will grant export
licenses only IN cases which meet with
the approval of this government. Sup
Elementary action along this line has
been taken by the United States War
Trade Board which has prohibited i'm
portntion without an individual import
license. Persons attempting to bring
sugar from Canada to this country
would bc faced with the possibility OF
heavy fines and Jail sentences should
they he unprecedented by the custom au-
thorities Of either country.
In addition to restrictions upon tho
manufacturers and limitations upon
household use the Canadian food au-
thorities have ruled that no person
shall use more than twenty-five pounds
Of sugar TO 100 pounds Of prepared
fruit In the manufacture OF canned
fruits for sale. This, OF course does
not apply to jams. iei!ies or marnaiade
Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1918-09-07
Won HINTZE SAYS HUNS
MUST NOT LOSE HOPE
Compliments Teuton Press for Buoying Up Spirits of
People-Decares Allied Papers Are Not Free to
Express Their Real Opnions-Looks for Peace

AMSTERDAM, September 6.-"Intel-
lectual weapons play in this war as
influential and important u role as
the battle field and diplomacy" said
Admiral Won Hintze, the German For
eiEn Minister, i'll Il speech in Vienna
IN which he was emphasizing the i'm
poriance OF everything being done TO
bring about AN honorable peace. The
speech was delivered at a reception OF
members OF the diplomatic corps and
the Journalists.
complimen,ing the press for worth
lily buoyinS up the spirits of tho peo-
pie. Admiral Won HintZe said:
This task is not always n light
one, especially when the news does not
tell of triumphs and iaurcls: when
we often have to renounce these and
for strateEical reasons undertake a
tactical withdrawal OF troops.
One knows from the experience of
this war how short the duration of
such fluctuations are--for example Ga
i'cia and East Prussia. But they teach
us that we have no reason 10 lose
hone. When one wants to pluck roses
one also must expect to be pricked
by thorns.
lust as peace came in the east. it
VIII come also in the west Though
perhaps it will take some time. we need