New-York tribune., 1918-10-08
Make Germany Helpless
for Centuries, Senator
Advises Colleagues
Take Back Spoils
Of Previous Wars
Begin at Time of Frederick
the Great and Force
Restitution
~pec,ci Dispatch TO The Tr,ormtl

tSpec,ct D,spotch TO The Trioliutl
NASHlNGTON, Oct t. Senator
Henry Cabot Lodge. of Massachusetts.
the ranking Republican member. to-
dav told the upper house AN armisticc
q, this time with Germany was un-
tblnkahlc.
An armisticc now said Senator
Lodge. could mean simply the loss Of
thc war and all VIC fight for
absolute surrender without discus
sion and without terms was the only
condition. he insisted on which peace
otYer could even be countenanced.
"There can be no doubt of the fact
that the initiation OF any negotiations
for peace rests wholly in the hands of
the President" said Senator Lodge
"As commander in chief he can make
or agree to An armistice. do not
mvself suppose that he has the slight
est thought Of agreeing to any arms
uce at this time. | cannot imagine
4hst. he should, and I do not believe
for one moment that he is even think
ing Of it.
I'VE have no right to undertake to
settle q form of government for any
other nations, but VIC have an absolute
rirht to demand that when we nego-
,iatc in any way, great or small, VIC
shall negotiate with somebody who
does not regard treaties as scraps OF
paper. This the President himself
has said over and over again, and am
in full accord with him.
What Does Hun Mean, Lodge Asks
1T is not a question of the four
teen points or the four points or eight
uoints or whatever they are. The
question now is d very simple one.
Germany has begun this great peace
offensive, as it is called. ! predicted
i. upon the 23d of August. II was an
easy prediction to make and one GER
tain of fulfilmcnt. 1t comes.
"What is the German proposition?
That they will have an armistice and
then begin to discuss the principles
laid down by the President; that they
viii undertake to discuss peace, while
hey leave their armies in full &C
tivity. burning the cities and towns OF
France and Belgium at this moment;
Vile they hold vast tracts OF Russia
and arc ready TO go on at any mo-
ncnt; under these conditions they pro
rose to us to enter INTO long dls-
sussion of the basis of peace.
An armistice now could mean SIMPLY
the loss of the war and all we flght
for As to this theory that the Senator
from Washington has so strongly, and
think wisely, denounced, that II Ger
MANY will retire from the country she
has conquered we viii lay down our
arms and begin to talk peace, IT can
not be too strongly condemned Wherc
are YOU going to begin to draw the
line on what Germany has conquered? :?
In all the conquered territory she holds
there is not one conquest more IN
famous than Frederick the Greats
conquest of Silesia, when he tore 1T
from Austria in utter disregard OF
solemn obligations which he had en-.
tered into-took it by surprise In all
history there never was a worse case
Of armed robbery than that. Is it pro
posed to 20 back to that? [ fancy not
although it would satisfy eternal us
tice if we did SO.
Will She Go Back to 1870?
Does she propose to go back to the
var of 1870? Yes, most assuredly.
The French people will never submit.
n my Judgment, TO anything less than
Msace- .orrainc without condition,
without deduction. and it is to the in
torest Of the entire world that We
should take Lorraine from Germany
forever. because there she got most of
her iron. y 100000 tons last year, to
make shells and munitions of war to
slay our troops and those of the Allies.
France did not desert us. It is not
conceivable that we should ever deser.
her.
I've know what other things she has
taken. When she retires into her own
boundaries. not the boundaries of her
robberics, and holds up her hands, then
let her ask for an armistice.
The President Of the United States,
III the fulillment Of his high RESPONSE
bility. and | believe with the universal
appreciation of the American people,
has recognized the Czecho- Slovaks as
helligerent nation. That is not terri
'ory conquered by Germany. IT. was
conquered by Austria good many cen
turtles ago. We are committed to the
Nzecho Slovaks. We have recognized
them as belligcrent nation. Are we
gong to leave them under Austrian op-
presslon and hang our heads forever
after III shame Tor breach OF faith
Strip Her of All Power
"Ihere is but one right course in nv
judgment, and one only, and that is TO
put Gcrmany IN such position as to
physically guarantee that she cannot
break out upon the world again; TO put
her IN such Il position that she cannot
9Salh enter upon war or world con
Guest. 1t does not matter what treaty
she signs. put her behind the bars:
treaties with Germany have no worth
or meaning. | think myself that VIC
should not only put her in position
Where she never can break out upon
tne world again. but make full repara-
non, for ! firmly believe that there is
such thing III this world as retrbu.
'Ve Justice and punitive justice
As for this league of nations to en-.
.orcc peace it is caught up by Ger
Trany IN order to divert attention
nero is ono league to enforce peace
40" Low III existence. and that is the United
o'ates and the Allies, and when they
nave beaten GERMANY as she must be