The Devils Lake world and inter-ocean., 1918-06-05

ton.
Mr.. Townley:-It might have been
that meeting. They might have taken
it from the paper. They misquoted
me,
The Acting Chairman:-Will you
send a correct statement of what you
did say at Beach on June IL?
| Mr.. Townley:-In respect to what?
| The Acting Chairman:-This para
graph that I have just read.
MI. Townley:-No; l can not give
you the words.
The Acting Chairman:-Regarding
the sale of bonds.
| Mr.. Townley:-I never held any
meeting in any state in which did
not advocate the sale Of bonds. :.
The Acting Chairman:-On June %
you are quoted as saying:
/ If the nation should come to the big
corporations and ask for their surplus
wealth; l am afraid it would dampen
their ardor for war little bit. I am
afraid there would not be much of
war.
Mr.. Townley:- may have said
part Of that.
| Senator Reed:-Which part?
MI. Townnley:-That it would damp
en- the ardor of the corporations for
war.
Senator Reed That would not
mean anything unless you said the
rest of it, Did you say it would
dampen the ardor Of the corporations
for war if they We're not allowed to
make money?
Mr.. Townley:-That is what have
said at different times, that if some
of the big corporations were not al
lowed to make big profits they might
use their influence against war.
Senator Reed:-You said in that
case they had used their influence for
the war?
MI. Townley:-Yes, sir.
Senator Reed:-You said they used
it for the war to make profits?
Senator Reed: In other words, you
talked to the people who listened to
you, and said that the war had been
caused by big corporations who want
ed to make big profits?
MI. Townley:-No, did not.
Senator Reed:-You go out and tell
your people will come to you and who
listen to you as their teacher that the
war was brought about by people who
wanted to make big profits?
Mr.. Townley:-No, never stated it
in that way.
, Senator Reed:-Just how?
Mr.. Townley:-I stated that people
who make big profits are strong for
i the war.
), Senator Reed:-What did you want
the people to understand by that?
Why did you speak of people who
make great profits being strong for
war? It is presumed that every 10y
al citizen is strong for the war. Why
did you single them out, except that
you wanted the people to understand
that they had been the cause of the
war?
MI. ownley:-No.
Senator Reed:-Why didn't you say
that the man with the hoe is strong
for the war; that the man with the
pick is strong for war; and that the
man with the axe is strong for the
! war, as well as the man who makes
| great profits and the man who makes
little profits. Why did you pick out
the men?
MI. Townley:-I said just what you
asked me why l did not say it. I have
said time and again, in spite of the
fact that some of the corporations
were making great profits--
Senator Reed:-why did you call
attention to the fact that these people
We're making great profits in that con-
necticn?
Mr.. ownley:-Doesn't that explain
the reason? When my neighbor's son
! avoids the draft and refees to do his
part, it is my business and your busi-
ness to see that he does not avoid the
draft; that he goes as he should. If
some other citizens of the United
States, being in a position where he
has power, takes exlrorbitant profits
for the service he performs for this
Government, he interferes with the
success Of this Nation in this war just
as my neighbor's son OF brother, who
refuses to give his body. For that
reason l would call the attention of
the people to the slackers and call at
tention also to the industrial and fl
nancial slackers who were taking ex-
horbitant profits.
Senator Reed:-You did that to en-
courage the boys who are slackers?
You said, "Of course there is lot of
/ fellows going into this war who are
taking enormous profits, and there
fore We sympathize with you?" That
was your line Of argument.
The Acting Chairman:- is a
speech made on June % at Glencoe,
Mimi:
Well, the rich man will stay at home.
He's making "the rules of the game.
These boys will gives the biggest sac
rifice men can make. They will give
up their lives. They will lose legs ana
arms. Whole companies will be blown
to atoms. Hundreds of thousands,
yes, millions Of the best you have will
he sacrificed