The sun., 1918-10-08

States VINO proposes sucn q ridiculous
proposition. Austria has made GER
tain proposition, the terms OF which we
do not as yet know exactly, and Ger
many has made a proposition. They
have asked for n suspension Of hos
Titles. 1t is unthiniable that such
request will DO granted either bv the
United States or by an other Power IL
Ii unthlnkable that suspension OF hos
tilities even can be considered while our
enemies are in possession of the terri
tories belonging to France, Belgium and
Italy. So l say when the Senator as
serts that there are In this country some
responsible individuals who are propos-
ing the acceptance of these terms that
he is grossly in error"
Presidents Words. Quoted.
Senator Borah (Idaho) INTERRUPTED
Senator Hitchcock 10 read an extract
from the Presidents New York speech
to the effect that the United States cam
not deal with the present Government OF
Germany.
81 am glad the Senator has quoted this
into the Record at this time" said Sem
ator Hitchcock. 1T corresponds with
the former statement Of the President
/ had gathered. however, the impression
from reading the speech OF the President
in New York that he was more disposed
at the present time to trust to a league
OF nationa to enforce tho terms of
peace that might be agreed upon at the
close Of this war and that he might not
adhere to that earlier expressed opinion
OF his that the contract made with Ger
many must be made by the representa-
tives of the German people. and that
this would really involve a change In
the organic law of Germany. as be-
liave II does. so whether or not the
President. intended in the New YORK
speech 10 adhere to that former state
ment certainly think It ought to be
one of the conditions laid down by us
and accepted by Germany.
II hope I have made 1t absolutely
clear that the thought OF suspending
hostlItles as requested by Germany and
Austria Is absolutely abhorrent to the
Foreign Relations Committee and I be-
iieve to every member OF the Senate"
Views of Senator Lodge.
Senator Lodge followed the chairman
OF the Foreign Relations Committee.
There can be no doubt OF the fact
that the initiation Of any negotiations
for peace rests wholly in the hands OF
the President" said Mr.. Lodge. "As
Commander in Chief he can make or
I agree to an armistice. i do not myself
suppose that he has the slightest thought
| OF agreeing to any armistlce at this
time. cannot imagine that he should,
and l do not believe for one moment
that he is even thinking OF II.
What is the German proposition?
! That they will have an armistice and
then begin to discuss the principles laid
down by the President: that they will
undertake to discuss peace while they
leave their armies in full activity, burn
| ing the cities and towns OF France and
, Belgium at this moment, while they hold
vast tracts Of Russia and are ready TO
go on at any moment. Under these con-
ditions they propose to US to enter into
long discussion of the basis OF peace.
| An armistice now could mean simply
the loss OF the war and all we fiyht for
/ As TO this theory that the Senator from
| Washington has SO strongly and 1 think
wisely denounced. that II Germany will
retire from the country she has con.
duered we will lay down our arms and
begin to talk peace. 1t cannot be toe
strongly condemned. Where are yoJ
going to begin to draw the line on wha,
! Germany has conquered? In all the con
quered territory she holds there Ia moi
erick the Greats conquest of Silssis
when he tore 1t from Austria in uttei
disregard OF solemn obligations which hi
had entered into.
Must Retire to boundaries.
Does she propose to so back to tn,
war OF 1870? Yes. most assuredly. Tn,
French people will never submit, in m,
judgment, to anything less than Alsace
Lorraine without condition. without de
duction, and 1t is the interest OF the en-
tire world that we should take Lorrain,
from Germany forever because there sh,
got most OF her iron, 21,000,000 tom
last year. TO make shells and munit!on
of war to slay our troops and those o.
the Allies. France did not desert US
1t is not conceivable that We should eve
desert her We know what other thing,
Germany has taken. When she retire!
into her own boundaries. not the boun
daries OF her robberies. and holds up he,
hands. then let her ask for an armistice
THE President OF the United States Il
the fulflment of his high responsible
ties, and believe with the universal ap
probation of the American people, ha
recognized the Czecho-Slovaks as a bel
ligerent nation. That is not territor,
conquered by Germany. 1t was con
Quered by Austria good many centurie
ago. We are committed to the Czecho
Siovaks. Are we going to leave then
under Austrian oppression and hang on
heads forever after in shame for
breach OF faith? / do not believe that 1
contemplated for one instant, either witt
the Czecho-Slovaks or with Poland o
the Jugo-Slavs.
There Is but one right course in N.
judgment and one. only and that is =
nut Germany in such n nostion as L
physically guarantee that she canno
break out upon the world again. to pu
her In such a place that she canno
again enter upon n war or world con
quest. 1t does not matter what treat
she signs. put her behind the bars
treaties with Germany have no wort
or meaning. She has not only violate
. human laws, she has violated the highe
laws which have been recognized by a.
) nations since we have had any histoT,
\ THE mischief is in any discussion O
! the principle upon which peace shout
be debated. When Germany has sur
! rendered. when she holds up her hand
and says: We are beaten: what term
! will you impose?' Then the Allies an
the United States can tell her wins
terms they will impose. There Ia. Their
/ must be no other end. no other solu
ton"
Il have 10 doubt that our allies an
, America will not grant any armistic
until Germany quits waging war Xix
| a barbarian" said Senator Reed CAfo
, IT think 1t is unfortunate that we shoul
, treat this peace offer Mt this time In
serious manner. l think any discus
sion OF peace is liable to AFFECT scriousl
the present Liberty Loan, that thou
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