New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1918-04-11

LONDON, April 1O.-The latter part
of the House of Commons debate yes
terday, including Premier Lloyd
Georges presentation of the proposals
for CONSUMPTION and for self govern
ment in ireland and his peroration,
follows. The Premier said:
MAY 1 refer to speech delivered
by the late John Redmond at Mansion
House, Dublin, when he was addressing
q recruiting meeting there? He said:
THE heart of Ireland has been pro-
foundry moved by the spectacle of the
heroism and sufferings of Belgium.
The other day in London met Cardi-
nal Archbishop MERCER, and I took the
liberty Of promising him then that Ire
land would bring her arms and her
strength to avenge Iouvain and to up
hold and defend the integrity and in
dependence of Belgium
9" Belgium, Poland, Alsace Lorraine
and France. Those are words for the
Irish people to think over. There never
was war i'll which higher and nober
issues We're at stake. l have heard
some people speak of this war as an
English and not an Irish war. That is
absolutely and definitely untrue. Ire
LANDS highest imperial interests are
at stake
American Irish Drafted
The fac; that America is in this war
IS the best proof. There are more
lrishmen in the United States than
there are in Ireland. They are all sub
lect to conscription. Captain w. A.
Redmond, son of the late Irish leader.
interrupted: Not by England!O
'"lrishmen III Great Britain are sub
lect to CONSUMPTION, and so are Irish
men in Canada. Mr.. Redmond in adj
dressing this House on the military
service bill in 1916 said:
Let me state what is my personal
view on this matter of compulsion.
am content to take the phrase used by
the Prime Minister in his last speech
and | am prepared to say that | will
stick at nothing which is calculated to
certain, of the people OF Ireland'
Then he was opposed to that par
ticular bill. But he said that with
HIM conscrlption was not a question
of principle, it was purely a question
of necessity for the raising of men.
think the member for Mavo Mr..
Dillon) took substantially the same
view in a speech he delivered at the
same time. The member said:
We are now engaged in discussing
an important political proposal for the
country. Like the member for Water
ford (Mr. Redmond), I view the thing
from the point of necessity and expe-
diency and in particular circumstances.
would not hesitate to support con-
scription tomorrow if I thought it
was necessary to maintain liberty and
II there was no consumption we ran the
risk of losing the war"
Dillon and Premier Clash
Mr. Dillon interrupted: "That was
conditional on Ireland having the lib
crty to decide her own fate, and if
Irish liberty were at stake I certainly
would not hesitate to support con-
scr!ption."
81 do not want to enter into a con-
troversy as to what my friend meant"
continued the Premier, "but that is
what he conveyed to the House, and
if he will take the trouble to read the
speech he will see that is the case.
Mr.. Redmond himself, on the third
reading, in delivering his speech, put
t on the ground that we were fighting
for small nationalities. Gle found
that was not true was the interjection
Of Mr.. Devlin.)
"The honorable member never chal-