The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1918-10-14
NO DEBATE, SAY
new YORK EDITORS
Before Peace Conference War
Must Be Won, Insists
the "WOrld."
"DEATH TO THE KAISER"
"Tribune" Demands Justice
Upon Authors Of Unspeak-
able Criminality.

Comment Of the New York press this
morning on the German reply follows:
The World-The outstanding fact of
the situation Ia that, whatever Germany
has agreed to do in the way Of peace.
the German Government has given no
guarantees whatever and the military
status quo provides no guarantees. The
German note as II stands leaves every
promise TO the good faith OF a Govern
ment which has demonstrated a thou
sand times that II lacks every element
Of good faith-to q Government which,
In spite OF every assurance that II repre-
sents the German people, is still wagins
war with all the ferocity and barbarian
OF Prussian militarism at its worst. The
American people have just begun to
fight. 3. When their representatives
enter a peace conference with Germany
they want to know beyond doubt or
cavil that the war has been won-com-
pletely. declsively and unquestionably
won.
Open to Many Definitions.
The Tribune - We come suddenly
awake and read that the Germans offer
to give UP the war on the Presidents
conditions of peace, and the fear grips
our hearts that, having won the war. we
are In danger Of losing the peace.
We review those conditions in tho light
Of their acceptance, and they are open
to endless definitions.
Victory in this war. as we understand
II. Is but means to Justice. and by jus
tice we mean death to the Kaiser and to
the authors Of all that unspeakable GRIM
inality committed in his name.
Chan IN lritiad oayerQl nnillt0nQ
Of his serfs only to let him 60 free at
last?
II this be not the verdict. OF the Amer
lean people, we do not know them. And
II II be said that our associates in this
war" feel differently. and THAI the Presi-
dent, In opening the door 10 peace dis
cussions with Germany. had information
which, were It known to the rest OF US,
would Justify his course, our answer Is
that the will OF the people is greater
than all circumstances. 1t is our crusade.
Faith inspires it-not information. And,
II need be. We can finish 1t alone.
Same ola Kaiserism. ,.
The Herold--It is the same old Kaiser
isn-not truculent now. but instead a
Kaiserism that realizes the defeat ahead
speaks through Herr DR.. Solf.
. There is nothing the supreme
military command wishes quite as much
as that II may be given a breathing spell
to withdraw its battered armies to the
positions behind the Rhine which long
since were prepared for their reception.
There they can be reformed. there the
military strength OF Germany can be
consolidated-both for the defence OF the
ALREADY harassed fatherland and to fur
nish German diplomacy with the loaded
dice" which II needs to win a German
peace at a diplomatic round table.
Surrender. Not Armistice.
The Tines-No armIstice can be
granted to Germany on the terms she
proposes. Incalculable military advan-
tage would accrue to her from the cessa-
ton OF arms at this time.
Surrender. not an armistice, must be
the condition precedent to any talk about
peace. Let her give up Metz and Strass-
burg to be occupied by allied garrison
forces. Let Germany give her navy.
with all her submarines. into the keep
ing OF the United States and the nations
associated with us in the war, to be held
In trust.
No peace can be made with the Ho-
henxollerns They are without honor
The operations OF war and prepare.
lions to continue the war to the end can.
not be suspended or diminished until
Germany gives up the fight. 1t is not &c
be supposed that Marshal Foch will as.
sent to a cessation OF arms that would
give the enemy resting spell to repair
and reorganize his shattered forces fol-
a stouter resistance. To repair tha
worst of blunders months Of effort:
would be demanded and thousands o.
brave men would have to give theil
lives. Memories Of the millions wht
have fallen to bring Germany to defea
will fortify US against yielding the al