Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-04
"FAT AND CHESTY, YES"
SIGNS or REAL WARD
LEADER, SAYS DEUTSCH

high avenues station in September. 1912.
and back to the Third district in July lslb.
Mr. Gordon's questions brought from the
witness the following story Of conNersa-
tion with Deutsch:
was going west on Lombard street with
a friend OF mine named Louis Dunoff, ana
at Sixth and Lombard I met Mr. Deutsch
coming east on Lombard street. We walked
over to Mr.. Deutsch Mr.. Dunon said to
Mr.. Deutsch, he said. Ike, you are getting
fat" Deutsch threw out his chest. He
said, ''Yes, you have to get fat and chesty
now l am ward leader" He turned to
me and he said, Wei, 1 had Powers re-
duced and put on the street In uniform
today" He said, The same thing VIII
happen to you fellows If you don't turn IN
We'll" / said, Il am one who won't turn
in. | am for Jimmie Carey and / am
going TO stick with him" We'll" he an
swered he said. Il will have you trans
ferred to Pluckfelders in the Eighth Dis
, trict. Lieutenant Pluckfelder Is known TO
have a bad reputation; he is man-drlvihE
| man" said, you can suit yourself about
/ that" I said, ~ will do my bit, do police
duty wherever l am sent" He turned
around and he eaid, IF don't have you
Sent up there | will have you transferred
on the bridge carrying gun said 'Suit
! yourself" | said, Il am for Carey and II
| IL is necessary I will swing pick or shoVe
| a shovel tomorrow to serve Jimmie Carey
! the position. II It is necessary VIII ari'e
| a team"
| A few DAYS after that l was standing
! at a news stand and officer Caldwell Third
/ District, came over to me ana he hahueu
me my transfer TO Eleventh and Winter
@. How long was your transfer after your
| talk with Deutseh? A. Six or seven days.
I judge.
Christian Bartelson, Fifth Ward police
man, who had been made traffic oiheer N
| 1910 was then called and testified that
| he had been transferred on August 10 TO
| Trenton avenue and Dauphin street sVa-
! ton He was n Carey man, he said'
Joseph Ward was then called, but there
| was no answer.
John c. Shields, Fifth Ward policeman or
! nine years standing, took tile stand next
| and after saying he was transferred sep
| tember 2, to the Front and Master streets
station. testified to the following conNersa-
ton with Special officer Murphy oil he
! Fifth Ward station on August 10:
I was standing on a step Of hotel at
second and Walnut and Mr.. Murphy hol'
+ Tered to me, VI want to see you SO saiu
| IAN right what do you want?" He said
| Il want you to join that club saiu'
Not me-"
O. What club? A. The new Deutsch club.
He said. why not? Because l said, Il
won't join any club at all He said .,
want your answer Wednesday" l said Il
! will give It to you right now. There Is
| nothing doing" He said, "An right we VIII
! see | don't want to have you transferred,
or McGorick, nor Nyle, but" he said III
you don't join that club you Will have 10
60" l said, "All right
@. Did you join the club? A. No.
O. Did YOU go? A. / went. don't know
when went. l went to work on September
l6, but when l was transferred DON'T
know | couldn't find out.
O. When did you go to work in the
new district? A September l6
O. Why did you go? A. | came in for
my pay on payday in the Third District
| and asked them why was transferred and
nobody seemed to know. The lieutenant
wasn't there. / asked the house sergeant
and he said, II don't know asked the
acting street sergeant, and he said, II don't
know nothing about you l went on back
to the house sergeant, and he said, Il don't
know whether you 90 to the Tenth, Eleventh
or Twenty-second." | said, Il would like
to know" l said, Somebody ought 10
know" oh" he said, Il will find out"
So | waited from ten minutes after to
quarter to before found out
O. How did you find out? A He got
time to find out-from a slip of paper.
My Mr. Gordon--Q. It is probably an un-
necessary question, but l didn't ask you
Were you a supporter of Carey? A. Yes
sir.
JOHN p. FREIMUTH, formerly of the
traffic squad, the next witness, testified he
was transferred from his post on Spruce
street between Front and Second on Au'
gust 10 to the Eleventh and Winter streets
station, and a week later was again shifted
this time to Twenty-second and Hunting
Park avenue.
BY Mr.. Gordon-Q. When you were
! transferred did you speak to your lieuten'
ant, Lieutenant Buhler of the traffic squad
A. Yes, sir. 1 think it was the next day.
Q. What did you say to him and he tC
you? A. called up Lieutenant Buhler or
the phone and l says to him, Lieutenant
did you have me transferred He says
: mo, sir" He says, This is just as mucf
of a surprise to me as it is to you" l says
HAS there been any complaint?' He says
mo, not a thing. You are perfectly clear
/ down here" | says, "All right; thank you.
Q. Were you supporter Of Mr.. Carey
A. Yes. sir
Edward Qurk, another Fifth Ward po
I ! liceman. next testified he was transferred
on August 90 to Germantown, He pro
!. duced the transfer order and Mr.. Gordol
read It.
, Mr.. Gordon-Q Any reason assigned 70
your transfer? A. Only l am for Carey
That is all / know
SERGEANT FRANK O'BRIEN. beinI
sworn testified he served at the Fifth War
. station five years but was transferred las
t August 16 to the Twentieth and FEEDERS
e streets station.
BY Mr.. Gordon-Q. Any reason given 70
y your transfer? A. No, sir.
= Q. Were you a supporter of Mr.. Carey
| A. I am a Tenth Warder
Joseph Ward was again called in III
u courtroom. but there was no response. Tn
3 crier reported to the Court that some on
had given him Information that Ward wa
e out Of town.
r John j. Powers recalled and, questone
: by Mr.. Gordon stated that Ward had r
: signed from the force on election day an
e was understood to have left town for
week.
Charles Sonntog, still another Fifth War
y policeman, was then called and testihe
i that when he returned from his vacatlo
! July 90 he was denoted from street Sc
Is geant to patroman and transferred Augu
"a 10 the Tenth and Buttonwood stree
y station.
n BY Mr.. Gordon-o. Are you related
James Carey? A. BY marriage.
"a O. What is the relationship? A.
- brother Of mine is married to a sister
his
le q. OF course. you are a supporter
y Mr. Carey? A. Yes.
GEORGE WINGWELL, for seven years
DO patrolman in the Fifth Ward. then traf
reserve officer. then testified he was a rel
O. dent of the Fifth Ward and a supporter
ne Carey and was transferred TO Tacony