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New Britain herald., 1917-12-29

AAlA-Stars ConIpose Of
TO Meet Association

The Stars OF Syracase, 3
composed Of collegians who arc
Christmas recess trip, viii stop N e.
the Hardware city. long enomkh thu
evening to engage in battle with TN
crack YIN. C.. A. quintet. The eaMI
Will be staged in the AAsocia tion gyms
nasium, and the 3. :. n. sign ~ AZ
pected to be displayed early II
evening The Empire state boy - e,.E
been cleaning up with regul6 yita )
expect to ad the scalp s,f the
team to their list before st1 6'111l
puts in an appe&EAnc4 t0mlDl
Whether or not they can achieve TN
feat is another question, and win has
to be fought out this evening. M
u Looking over the lineup as Sent
the manager Of the All-Stars, n
readily be seen that the New ~
boys have a very Formidable axa
strength, King Solomon ha6 bNz
drafted into their service. First 49,
foremost in the Stars lineup i1
Wiener who few years ago 6tAt4s
with Yale, and esta blished hindH AZ II
the king Of college players WIele
it is said, still retains his Did pro- -
1t should prove an interesting
with Larson and Jacobson tryH
prevent Wiener from filhu8 TIE IN
kets. Pratt, the big centsF 49,
to be one of the fastest players IA
country, and is looked upon ~ ts
coming sensation OF inter- cOflNGiAA
circles. Ruffln OF, MiddletOWn, 4c
merly played with the High sch06
five of that town. and was q stella
performer. Little Is known Of MG
tin, but up in Pittsheld where the
tives only brag about Shame C
Inns Of the White Sox, Martin = ~
garded as "some boy" in basketh
circles. 81 u;
The preliminary game Which stn!l1IIs.E
at $3.50 o'clock, win be beANeeM
High school and the Ran II An. y.
The latter team had ta1se OH
brand of basketball taught ~
school recently, but the team and foiN
lowers are hopeful for . come back
this evening. INF
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
JOB FOR CHIV1NGTON.

louisville, KY, Dec. 29.-After
sNon1 arences here between Thomas M.
YEnivin9ton, former president of the
american Association, and o. H.
sWathen, president of the Louisville
Association baseball club, Mr.. Wather
sAnnounced that he had offered the
most OF business manager to Mr.. Chiv-
eYnkton. The contract is for one year.
M 81 stated Mr.. Chivington also is
EDnsidering offers from other Asso-
Ri4tion clubs and from two major
hague clubs, William Clymer will re-
Smaln manager Of the playing end.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
FOURTEEN CHANGE SIDES.

Fourteen batsmen in the National
league bat from either side of the
plate. Against southpaws they hit
riEhthanded and switch against the
orthodox twirlers The fourteen men
are Max Carey, Pirates; Greasy Neale'
Reds; Holke, Giants; Jimmy john
ston, Dodgers; Bill Kopf, Reds; Bill
IMcKechnie, Reds; Dave Bancroft
Phillies; Jimmy Smith. Giants; Rube
Marquard, Dodgers; Jim Vaughn,
Cubs; Bob Bescher, Cardinals; Pat
Ragan, Braves; AL Demaree, Giants,
and Paul Fittery, Philles.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
PRODUCER WINS FEATURE

Winfrey's Two-Year-Old With Jockey
Walls in Saddle, Outruns Big Field
at jefferson Parish Track.
New Orleans, Dec. 29:-G. p. Win
frey's two-year-o colt Producer de-
feated good field of older horses in
the Marrero Purse, the feature event
at Jefferson Parish park yesterday
afternoon. Carrying 100 pounds and
with little George Walls in the sad
die, he stepped away from his oppo-
nents and easily finished the one mile
course in front. Brynlinlah, the eight
year-old gelding belonging to J. Lowe,
finished second and Cracow took the
short end of the purse
Mrs. George w. Lofts colors flashed
home the winner Of the first race.
They were borne by frankie Robinson
on the black f1lly Flapper. Early in
the year this Juvenile miss by Yankee
and The Hayden was expected to do
great things. She worked exception
ally fast in her trials for Maxey Hirsch
but was a big disappointment in her
races, and it was not until yesterday
on heavy track that she graduated,
out of the maiden ranks.
MEET PROCEEDS FOR ARMY.
RnSfOn Dec 2Q-The nr0coode "a
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29

O'Neil says he has been offered the
position by you," was the reply
ooh, we'll. 1 have nothing to say
on the matter" replied the Cardinal
executive.
In response to further questioning
hickey admitted he had known O'Neil
for several years and considered him
to be a smart baseball man. He said
Mike had always had his club up
around the top. = .&
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
By Briggs

the annual indoor track meet Of the
Boston Athletic association, to be held
on February 2, will be turned over to
the military and naval athletic equip
ment fund. Several novel events for
men in the service, including rope
climbs and tugs Of war, will be added
to the program.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
oo1IeATE nosEs oAPrA1N.

Syracuse, N z. Dec. 29.-Henry
Clio, Of Milwaukee. scaptain-eiect Of
the Colgate 1913 football team. has
entered the United States army avia-
ton school at Cornell. Howard Ed
kins, Colgate halfback, left college to
enlist with Clio.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
NAV co INTO BUSINESS,

Baltimore, Dec. 29.-Ray Morgan
who plays second base for the Wash
ington club, is considering chance
Of opening wet goods emporium
here The tendency of the country to
go dry" is all that's bothering Nor
gan.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
MAMAS DETERMINED
Maddened By Recent Defeat BY Ray
naond, Capitol City Wrestler is Out
For Revenge.

, wait until the next time" the
words often times used by q edefeat-
ed athlete, is all that the manager
OF Harry Mamas, who faces Jack
Raymond on the wrestling mat in
Turner hall next Saturday evening,
has to say in regard to the coming
encounter. Judging from this and
the fact that the last meeting of the
pair was no pink tea affair.", the COM
ing muss should produce mat work
Of all variety. The bout might de-
velop into an affair that would give
the Home Guard some excellent
training. The fact that Raymond
won a technical victory over the Cap
itol City grappler in their first meet
ing. has not tended to make the ap
parent uneven temper of Mamas
change any. The tactics employed by
Mamas show him to be rather tenn
peramental and when he becomes ex-
cited, o boy, something usually oc-
ours. In wrestling the crown of mid
dleWeight champion from "Smiler"
Livingstone, Mamas proved himself
to be, an efficient workman at the
mat game and it will employ all the
tact that Raymond can employ to
down the doughy Greek. Both men
have started in putting on the finish
ing touches for the coming baurre,
Raymond having pitched his tent in
the wilds of Berlin, where he is work. ,
ing out with AL Ventres at the local
Y. M. c. "A. Mamas has mustered in
his entire corps of handlers to fit
him for the big fray. r .1
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
..Have NOTHING to say

st. Louis, Mo-, Dec. 29--When asked
last night II he was considering Mike
O'Neil. manager OF the Syracuse club
in 1917. as the 1918 pilot OF the ST.
Louis Cardinals. President Hickey de-
c1arod he did not want to say any
thing on the subject.
Why do YOU ask about O'Neil ~
was q query from Rickey. Because
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
GARDNER NOT THRoUG

1t is hard to make Boston =.
lieve that Larry Gardner 4.
ii big Lacquer. They pc, tn
Aelding records, which low
Larry took care, OF 148 at-oNf1 alae
315 assists, making 81 eluTs. Baker,
the leagues leader, had2O2 put-outas|
but only 317 assists iQFfhe same mum
Der OF w&mes. 80
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
s. 80, BoUrs POSTPONED.

CLEVELAND, O., Dec. 29.-Owing to
injuries sustained by Johnny Ertle of
Paul, Mimi, the scheduled ten
Dllad bout with Johnny Wolfe OF
N I3st6 city: last evening, was postponed.
~ bout. will probably be held early
Asff NsAhfuAry.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
MAXWELL WINS Ar GOLF.

PinehnAgk N. c., Dec. 2e-Norman
h MAxypeu Of Philadelphia won the
medal n the qualifying round of the
annual mid-winter golf tourney here
yesterday. He turned In a card of
I78
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
sourH1NGfoN BEATEN.

IA picked tefan from this city,
feated the SItfthington Home 0as
Ave in that town last evening a.
ketban, sQtre 80 to ~, The i
ware City lads experienced little dif
Guilty in locating the baskets az,
Scof1eN, Anderson and .Kppf. Pile
up pants very fast. Bslklekss playful
feat red Tor the SCOUT fa -! VI; "a
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
{ lead m PASSED BALLS.

DoaE4n and Washington led the
rotaeen League with passed balls
q 1pn, each club having twenty
ISIa6s ~ Owing to the incomplete
u prnx t The OFFICIAL records, 1t is inn
p6es4ble TO see what each catcher had
q hiS dfscreddt,
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29

James C1abby OF Hammond, Ind,
has Hst received a letter from his
son, Jimmy, In Australia, stating that
~ now - heavyweixht champion OF
the Antipodes, having recently won u
decision over Albert Lloyd III 20
round Contest
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29
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Il ~
Mil Have to
Service Changes

s.vAiAV0 Ou l'o
% ONE or cav
Ta,1,s vhich n;o5or
TIN otunars viii die
IN maetinp of tho
s1or n in Cincinnati
l,as been presented
S.tw DAYS as q result
~ raging over CON
W
E;7ners veaA.ar5av aid
NV apitated on this
bpears that moguls of
SS.Ira.s,7,, s,,osat,+i,,o ~
-. The - ,1isa hi1i+s ~
i,,le drafts until a deti-
IN has haer had as tn
Atihn facilities will he
rexrlar movaments
|TS-si..1-,,a c,,,b- q : -.
a.,snnositfon will rood.
fss~fS Y, m .a;a p.a,,5o,,+
Gsrs+1araI 100 90 "a
*s1.s 77ssT- Erorv that NJ
ss,Ssfil,r,.a IN ~. roads
.hle 10 remove
gSl 7s|3l ,,lavern 7 am
Ss fHssfT S nj 9ssss.w1, 8 ir+o,oat -,
~ SsS NJ. +.,,1a,. IN.
49, &asiya
ss .ss.r - Il 80 So =
SlyllIallg co selcr1nce.
master OF fact, President
O0ntlnuea' pasena1l mas oeen
avs Will pc Wiling TO sacr1-
AWard the common cause. II
fsRASeball players cannot always
.sADRers berths next summer they
NnEtl be much more comfortably
"a than the men In the trenches.
r. INK can say for the National
Ne that 1t will submit most hum
- sss to Whatever the government
sAss AZ best Tor the country's well
a.
s-Nnere IS no use or crossing
,ss1d9es before we come to them, ne
McIuded. II necessity demands, 1t
Nld pc very easy to revise our
edules from present plans. Until
necessity arises why anticipate!
E5Government control OF railways
9ka1rally raises certain points tnat
s5echedule-makers Wall 40 Wen 70
WA Aplian pe1ore next season draIt OF
kee mas peen announced. II was
ia. ctlcally agreed at the JOINT major
gues meeting In Chicago some time
NO TO crowd schedules Of l54 games
Ito period one week shorIer imam
fs1inarily. heretofore the scheduieg
ssseNea ueci' q VI iAoL0 ioH5 lawn ou'
nm absolutely necessary. Inc sea-
M was sprinkied generously with
soM dates, which were used by CLUBS
3ther tor exhibition purposes or for
aAying on postponements In q way
RsANoid e-headers
Ss' he great leeway OF on days or [
81 oates was mace possible or1nci-
Peeause OF the me scheouie OF
.-k tNMaAS between extreme f1aSteTn
Nestern wings OF the major car
eouptless 1t Will Stall pc pos
ne 20 ccndense the long scneduie
vi 4sONE seriously aHectlng the usual
me ~ ua1ly games. II necessary
pie-he4ders may very easily De ,
80 many OF these bargain
se4Act1Qns nave TO De prayed nyno"
~ year.
sS80yAfnment controi OF railways,
.s9Wever. y hkeIy 70 eHect one re-
soaam winch a radical element OF the
settonal league mas adVocaIed most
allnit. No club is likely to add to dis
Inforts BY carrying lot OF bench-
aere II Daseoall Is TO 1eei the
e4ch Qf tramc congest1on.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29

MEET PROCEEDS FOR ARMY.
Boston, Dec. 29.-The proceeds o.
New Britain herald., 1917-12-29

174 A121UM Sc, HAmc11OD, CONN.
J @ ID, 1850 to s, Ito D; suntsAts, 10 10
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
To the Local Merchant.
Jefferson County Union.)


Have you ever thought that good
roads contribute very vitality to an in
crease of business for you? Much
business which once went to the local
dealer is now going to Chicago and
other large centers. There is no more
effective way of meeting this competi-
ton than by good roads. The mail or
der house saves one trip for the farm
er. 1t saves several hours in driving
into town to get the purchase. He will
come in often, and Uncle Sam carries
it for him. He has but one trip to
make to receive his goods when they
arrive. Give the farmer good roads
and he will be far more likely to come
into town to see the local dealer be-
fore making his purchase. He will, in
fact, come in very often. Frequent trips
mean frequent calls, and this means
business. Good roads will move
farmer miles nearer to your store
There is no stronger slogan for the
business men than better roads and
beat the mail order house"
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

rons for job printing. The time has
passed long ago, in fact, when any old
piece of paper was good enough for a
farmer to write a letter on. Today
the farmer recognizes that he is a
business man-that he has things to
sell just as any other business man
has things to sell The modern farm
er recognizing that his business is
dignified believes that his correspond
ence should be digni1ed-and impress
sive. Farmers are amazed to find that
nice lot OF letter heads and envelopes
can be printed up for them bearing the
name Of their farm, the kind of horses,
cattle, poultry or other things they
are specializing in, at a cost almost
as low as that Of the plain paper
Farm stationery as an adjunct to mod
ern farming has come to stay.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
A CHILD'S LAUGH.
(RObert Ingersoll.l

The laugh of a child will make the
hottest day more sacred still Strike
with the hand of fire, O. wierd must
clan, thy harp strung with Apollos
golden hair; fill the vast cathedral
aisles with symphonies sweet and dim.
deft TOUGHER of the organ keys; blow
bugler, blow, until the silver notes do
touch and kiss the moonlit waves and
charm the lovers wandering mid the
vineclad hills. But know your sweet
est strains are discords all compared
with childhood's happy laugh-the
laugh that fills the eyes with light and
every heart with Joy. 0, ripping river
OF laughter, thou art the blessed
boundary line between beasts and
men, and every hayward wave of thine
doth drown some fretful fiend of care.
Q, laughter rose Tipped laughter of joy
there are dimples enough in thy
cheek to catch and hold and glorifv
all the tears of grief.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
WHY THE EDITOR LEFT TOWN.

Some amusing things come up in
newspaper circles. For instance, an
Iowa editor has woman contributor
whose name is Mrs. Belle Bailey. Mrs.
Bailey writes, or did write, a weekly
letter. Now, to digress for a moment,
as the reader may have frequently not
iced, the compositor sets up what is
called a guide line" to indicate the
nature Of the matter as it leaves his
hand This line is simply for the
makeup mans guidance and should be
thrown away when the matter is
made up in the paper. But sometimes
it isn't, as you may have seen. y.
This Iowa editor was Mortified few
weeks ago to notice the following
guide line, left by mistake in Mrs.
Bailey's article, BELLE BAILEY'S
BUNK"
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Governor Philip in a recent speech
at the T. Of w school of journalism
disparaged newspaper editorials. He
is reported as speaking from a read
ers standpoint, and as saying that the
value of the edito. al was growing
less and that the power was being
transferred to the we'll written news
story
His excellency is a whale of
governor and, without doubt, an ex-
his opinion on this subject must be
taken as only his own and not found
ed upon general thought. 1t is true
that the editorial Titans of say thirty
to forty years ago do not exist as gen
orally today 1t does not, however,
follow that good editorial page will
not be read and commented upon and
that it has not its fixed place in
newspaper. We know Of exchanges
whose editorial pages simply sparkle
with good things. The editors of these
papers dIG QuOC0u IdI anu Wlu6 dnu
their readers consider the editorials as
the best part Of very good papers.
The Chicago Tribune, for instance,
without doubt Influenced neighboring
states to great extent in the recent
campaign. So also did the Milwaukee
Sentinel and other good Wisconsin
newspapers. No, Governor, you are
wrong, and above all you should not
idisparage the editorial to young men
who will conduct the free press Of the
future. The editorial page is neces-
sary in a newspaper that stands for,
more things than being an advertising
handful. 1t, in a sense is the ideal
side of the newspaper and lifts it out
of the ordinary into a more or less
dignified position. Whether it is good
or bad makes little difference, for if
the editor tries he will improve and the
people will help him. The editorial
page, free and untrammeled, is one of
our greatest American institutions.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
Leave 1t To Bob.
KenOSha News


Senator LaFollette may have lodged
the wet and dry issue when it came
to voting on conditions in the District
of Columbia, but it is going to be hard
to keep from going on record when it
comes to the question of prohibition
in his own bailiwick. But then the
senator is resourceful and he may find
way to blame it on the "stalwarts."
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
This One Is Good.

eau Claire Telegram.)
Some trifer wants the house of rep
resentatives referred to as the leak
house." another suggests "house of
mirth," but nobody has heretofore pro-
posed house of a thousand scandals"
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

DRY" or Bone Dry" is the hair
splitting and veXatious distinction be-
ing drawn now in Iowa between the
Honest to John" dyed in the wool, cold
water forever Prohibitionists and the
fellows who voted dry because they
thought they could always get drink
If they wanted it and that prohibition
was a mighty good thing-for poor peo-
pie Unfortunately the latter boys are
finding now that the Prohibs. meant
the whole thing and will insist on an
embargo of booze and all it's deriva-
tiVes.
Now the just Dry boys are lobbying
ike Halifax in the Iowa legislature to
prevent the passage of the real Bone
Dry" program. No joke about this-ao
more quiet nips on frosty morning if
the law is passed. 1t can't be done
because it can't be had So there! But
the Bone Drys" are sincere and they
are going to make the law the same for
the poor man as for the rich if they
can.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
The UkuIeIe Band.

The UkuleIe Band.
GAINESVILLE Gazette.)
When your feet begin a itchin'
And your shoulders start a twitchin'
And across the ballroom floor you
glide feelin' gay and grand;
You begin to weave and totter
Like a boat upon the water
And you listen to the music of the
ukulele band.
All your being seems to culver
Like the ripples on a river,
And the perspiration oozes from the
hollow Of your hand;
You can love most any girl
AS you glide and dip and whirI,
If you're dancing to the music of
the ukulele band.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
900

Hurrah! Along comes a noted med
1cal writer who advises a woman Ques-
toner that daily bathing is decidedly
injurious to her health Lots of folks
viii agree with Doc. who have always
thought this to be correct, but didn't
dare say so.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Why, we stop to ask, doesn't the Mil
waukee Free Press forget for one lone
moment about the great war? If Thee
qOre Kronshage could refrain for just
once from batting Wilson we will send
him a pound of Grant county honey to
eweeten his disposition.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
And Then the DeIuge.
(BaYfield Press

Have you ever wondered what the
result would be if people in this town
thought and said nothing but good of
each other for thirty or sixty days?
Think! It would work revolution in
both mind and body.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
Don QuixOte of 1917.

(Stevens Point Journal.)
President Wilson's plan for the pre-
vention Of wars may sound very nice,
but it will not work any more than
legislation can bring the millennium or
policemen prevent fights.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

The Mineral Point Tribune prints
an effusion on the coming Of spring.
Your imagination, old top, is distinct
Iy more vivid than ours.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

The German embargo means a pos
sible several things. Either it will be
so effective that no shipping will take
place and prices will go tumbling on
many manufactured articles almost
unpurchasable for the past year, or the
English will at last meet the issue
and fight back SO effectively that old
man U-Boat will be put out of the
game, or the Germans will turn the
trick the other way and put Brittania
under instead of over the waves Any
of these events will mean, we opine,
the end of the war
War with the U. S. A? 1t all re
mains to be seen.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
The New DeCaIOgue.

NWdUodU IC6CUIU-IlGIdIU.J
The dictionary has in it the posi-
bility of becoming the worlds most i'm
portant law book, ext book of philos-
ophy, agency OF peace, and arbiter of
disputes. Give it chance.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Profanely speaking, the festive
grounding had fat chance" Of see
ing his shadow last Friday-the cold
est day so far Of the winter. The chanc-
es are that the willy little beast stuck
his nose out and then scampered back
for another long snooze.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Washington news indicates that
some one is looking for a goat and that
a nice one is tethered very close to the
White House.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Slavish imitation and copying may
be a compliment, but it nevertheless
sometimes becomes very tiresome.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

The famous stock exchange leak"
has ceased for a moment i'll being the
seventh wonder of the daily press
world since the last German note
Other and more important leaks on
the deep are now imminent.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07
Some Never Learn.
(Marinetta Eap1e-Star

TMaTlnette EagIe-StaT.)
When person gets so strong in his
opposition to the principle of obedience
that he won't even mind his own bust
ness, he is likely to hear something
drop.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Where is the COMPOUNDED scoundrel
vino predicted mild, pleasant winter?
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

The smart man nowadays is the
taller" who establishes friendly re-
cations with the coal dealer.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

caster, Wisconsin, as second class
mail matter.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Published Every Wednesday Morning.
Subscription price, $3.50 per Wear.
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1917-02-07

Prof E. c. Pickering of Harvard, a
noted astronomer, does not believe in
the daylight saving plan. The profess
scr says that people would adjust
themselves to the new clock conditions
and rise an hour later Human ma
ture, he claims. The professor, we
think, is right. Can't cheat yourself
in this way any more than you can
mark up your balance at the bank.
Then he believes there would be great
danger of railroad accidents under the
proposed system. One thing though,
his article is rather funny. The profess
sor gravely advocates early rising, and
says that he has eaten breakfast at s
a. N. for years. Most folks, he thinks,
chew breakfast foods at nine. Maybe
so, at Harvard, but not in the West.