Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1917-03-31

In order to get this survey you, in
conjunction with the board of educa.
ton, have to ask for il. OF course,
this is a, national movement, and pri.
MARTY we wanted you and the board
Of education To understand that we
were absolutely impartial about 1t. The
College Club has had a reputation Of
doing things with the right spirit, and
We would not want TO antagonize any
body. and 1t seemed, il there was any
question Of the efficiency OF the board
OF education, it would be a great salts
faction to have a survey made such
as Is made In other places.
Governor: am asking questions;
am not saying anything. Have you
fully considered conditions on these
islands as compared with conditions
on the mainland7 Have you consider
ed whether the teachers from the
mainland are capable of understanding
a population where more than half
are Orientals who have not today
much Of conception of what our
country is? Do You think people
from the mainland colleges who come
here know more about things than
the people. hereg
Mrs. Forbes: Moro than girls from
the eighth grade Of the Normal
school.
Governor. They have to have some
training when they come out of the
Normal school Do you not think it
possible that The board Of education
has thought and studied on. these
matters3
Mrs. Forbes: Undoubtedly they
have.
: Governor; Things are not done in a
minute are they! The dear public
always wants things done immediate
ly. For instance, they want me to fill
up the Waikiki swamps before com,
plete plans and estimate are made or
duly considered.
Mrs. Forbes: OF course, we have
no desire to hold this like big stick
over anybody's head. Il think perhaps
the newspaper headlines really gave
a wrong idea. We want to be per.
fectly fair. and We have not any other
idea.
Governor. Yon should read my adj
dress 70 the school children on Maui
When 1 first came here, had a dis.
tinct ideal in education and have
got II now. / know what the condi-
lions are here, and ] am taking into
consideration The future of the chill
dren.
Mrs. Forbes: Such survey as this
has recently been made in San Fran
cisco. and there is at present In town
q woman, DR.. Adelaide Brown, who
has been through this survey, and she
said that at the time they did it there
was just q little feeling at first that
the teachers thought, why should any
enc come and medic, but when it was
done they could not help but feel a
greater inspiration In their work, as 1t
was done as impartially as any such
work could be done, and all the teach
ers and the department feel that 1t
was a splendid thing for them to have
done.
Governor: l cannot Judge Of that, as
/ have not had anything to do with
them. cannot read everything that
comes up. Conditions are not so COM
plicated here as people might think.
You know what employments there
are here Well, my address win tell
you how feel about It. am not
against children going just as far as
their talents indicate, but ! am not in
favor Of taking a whole mass Of chill
dren here and trying to put them
through college, neither am I so in
fatuated with college education that
cannot see anything else.
Mrs. Forbes: Yes. I know lots OF
splendid people who never saw the
inside of college.
Governor: There is no guarantee
that when they go through college
they will be any better for 1t. could
not 60 through college on account of
my health. ! was not afraid of any
thing; the result OF it Is that / never
undertook anything that j did not
carry through. believe that a great
many, il they have got the spirit in
them. can carry themselves a lot far
ther than they think il they can
reason and study snd not depend upon
what somebody las taught them. Take
the case Of Lord Kelvin. He did not
attempt to keep everything in his
head, but conserved his mind by read
ing carefully selected books. Also
Sir Henry Bessemer, who said. II he.
had had a technical education he
would have been hidebound into tech
nicalities. do not argue that nobody
should have technical education or
anything of the kind. but let the stu.
dent do his own thinking.
Mrs. Forbes: Another point has
come out since this was discussed
the case OF the private schools of the
city. I think I am safe In mentioninI