New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-08-08
Lawyer to Demand, That
Lad Be Taken to His
Mother
Relatives to Aid Her
Mother and Sister to Come Here
From Chile; Slayer to
Stay in Jail

physicians VINO Oh NOHuay CN"A'''~N
Mrs. Blanca De Saulles in the Nassau
County Jail reported to-day that she
is in an extremely impoverished physl-
cal condition, brought on by long years
of self-neglect and accumulated by the
horror of the days since Friday, when
she shot to death her divorced husband,
John l.. De Saulles, and that sight
of her son occasionally will help re-
store her to health.
Although the three physicians who
examined Mrs. De Saulles agreed that
she is a very i'll woman, they do not
believe that her condition as yet justi-
fies her removal from Jail TO hospital.
A suggestion that this might be done
was made Monday by Henry A. Uter-
hart, counsel for Mrs. De Saulles.
Boy Is at Westbury
While Mrs. De Saulles was heart
broken over the mystery of her child's
apparent disappearance, George NJ.
Heckscher, who was the murdered
mans partner in the real estate bust
ness, came forward to-day with a
statement which clears up all doubt
of the child's whereabouts.
There is no mystery, and never has
been, in respect 10 the whereabouts Of
little Jack De Saulles. He is at my
home at Westbury, under the care of
his aunt, Mrs. Rudolph Degener, and
of my Wife" said Mr.. Heckscher.
Earlier in the day the search for the
child led to the estate OF Howard
Phipps, in Old Westbury, three miles
from The Box, the scene Of the murder.
Some one telephoned Mr. Uterhart
that little Jack was there. But in
ouiries brought denial from Howard
Phipps of any knowledge Of the lads
whereabouts.
Now that the child is known to be at
C. NJ. Heckscher's home. Attorney Utter
hart will telephone the family some
time tomorrow and ask that little Jack
he permitted to see his mother.
an ask them," Mr.. Uterhart an
nounced to-day "to let little Jack go
20 his mother in the name OF humanity:
I cannot see how they can refuse II
they do refuse, it will be simple mat,
ter to compel them TO DO So we couId
probably get a writ OF haoess corpus
from Justice Townsend Scudder mere
or in one of the Brooklyn courts.
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satisfied 70 recognize for the present
the claim of Major Arthur B. De
Saulles, the aged father OF the muir
dered man. that he is the child's legal
guardian. now that Jacks father is
dead and his mother charged with
homicide.
Battle to Decide Child's Status
But a legal battle to determine the
status of the child, pending his moth
er's trial will be precipitated within q
few weeks by the arrival Of members
Of Mrs. De Saulles's family, who are
preparing to come to her aid from
Chile.
airs. Blanca Vergara-ErrazuriE, her
mother, and Amelia and William, her
sister and brother, will leave Valpa-
raise on Wednesday. They probably
will take up quarters In Mineola on
their arrival here, and will do all they
can TO help her." said Mr.. Uterhart.
"As matters now stand, il is better
for little Jack to bs in the care OF
some member of his family than to be
looked after by a paid attendant But
when Mrs. De Saulles's mother comes
here her claim 10 the child will be just
as strong as that of Major De Saulles.
We will invoke the courts TO determine
what is to be done then"
Chileans Interested in Case
That Chilean society is inter-
ested in the shooting is indicated, &C
cording TO Mr.. Uterhart, by the fact
that South American news agency has
cabled him for the legal developments
In the case. The cable stated that o
Juror had been created in Valparaiso's
most exclusive circles over the news
that Blanca De Saulles had committed
q murder.
ave are also learning, too" said Mr..
UtArhart, that Jack De Saulles was not
as popular on Broadway as was sup
posed. Dozens Of letters have come in
10 me and | have been swamped with
telephone calls from apparent enemies
of the man."
II was DR.. Guy r, Cleghorn, the Jail
phy,ician, who said that Mrs. De
saulles ought 10 be permitted 70 see
her boy. Dr.. Cleghorn was one Of the
physicians who examined her on Mon
day.
II do not caro- 10 say anything about
her mental state" said DR.. Cleghorn.
"But physically she is growing con-
stantly weaker. Evidently she has not
been taking care Of herself for long
time. Sho has not been eating regu-
larly, is worried and depressed. She
would probably pick up at once IL she
could see her boy.
May Remain In Jail
But there Is no indication that she
will have 70 DO removed from Jail as
yet. I certainly will not make any such
recon msndstion unless her condition IS
far more serious"
DR.. J. Sherman Wight, Of the Long
Island College Hospital. who also eX-
amined Mrs. De Saullles, characterized
her "psychopsthic."
"Thc woman is psychopathio," said
DR.. Wight tonight, and is in a de-
pressed state. She has been seriously
IN FOR al least year and is still on the
down track" Another examination will
be made Of Mrs. De Saulles in few
days, and IL is not unlikely that an
slienist will be among those present at
the consultation.
II can easily understand" said one
Of the examining doctors, why Mrs.
De Saullcs Is sick woman. In Chile
she was Blanca Errazuriz, a high born
wornsn, With lackoys and maids TO
dane. attendance on her. But mere she
was jus, Jack Dc Ssulles's wife and
had 20 look out for herself. She didn't