Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1917-03-31

he would be very glad indeed to ask
fer this survey in conjunction with the
public schools, If it came to a point
OF that; to have somebody who has
made a specially oil studying schools
and done this work in other places to
tell him il he Is doing it right; il would
be a great satisfaction. ! also heard
| indirectly that one of the trustees OF
Punahou said the same thing.
Governor: I should be very glad
to have you ask for the survey, but
| am not in favor Of your picking out
any individual case. ==
Mrs. Weaver: There is no individual
case mentioned here.
Governor: Why, | have the history.
OF that case right here.
Mrs. Forbes: You recognize 1t, then?
Governor: knew there was such a
case, and inquired INTO it. You would
have done mighty well if you had cut
out those four lines.
Mrs. Weaver: There are other
cases -a-,.-
Governor: You can go into any de-
partment and find such cases. You
cannot carry on a government on sup
positions; you must carry it on on a
principle. When | want to form an
opinion on a matter like this, first
find out all about 1t, find out what
the person has done and what points
of view they have; then ! can give
just opinion. i understand Mr.. Kin
yney is going to answer your letter,
and he is responsible for it. II you
had come together beforehand, you
would have been able to have been
working exactly In conjunction.
{ Mrs. Forbes: OF course, If we have
not gone about 1t in the right way,
We are sorry. s.s
Governor: do not carcass the thing |
will thresh itself out B1t, you have
hundreds of girls here who must have
means Of liveliht cd or be thrown on
the streets, and we do not want to
take any action that would discourage
them and have that result
Mrs. Weavsr: In regard to this
paper; i substantially wrote IL. Mrs. |
Forbes was the presiding officer, but
i did the investigating. As you wilt |
notice, the only points touched upon /
are public decis.ons- or public senti. |
ments of the Officers of the depart |
ments.
eovernor: But did yon go to
Mr.. Kinney and ask him what he
MEANT
Mr.. Sstesver: No: J. know people
who have gone and it seemed absolute
" ESsle<k = er.ss.. "a. -
Governor: Did. you ask TO appeal |
before-ths whole board?
Mrs. Weaver. No.
Governor: I should say you should |
have done Ii, because other members |
of the board have their own opinions.
Men get up and talk sometimes with |
out altogether rejecting upon what
they say, and they should be given a
chance.
Mrs. Weaver: asked Mr.. Kinney |
IL he was correctly reported, and he
said he was.
Governor: Do you know how many /
teachers from the mainland there are
now in our schools?
Mrs. Weaver: Yes. and know that
no territory or state can succeed nm
til it grows its own teachers. The
contention of the College Club is that
the public schools be not turned over
to the Normal school graduates.
Governor: There are double the |
number of mainland teachers to Nor |
NAL school teachers. The Normal
school teachers certainly can be EN-.
ployed In the primary grades
Mrs. Meaver: The announcement
Is backed up by the decision Of the |
department that the Normal school !
graduates be given preference and
that the official head Of the depart.
ment hopes that the Normal school
will furnish all the primary teachers
Of the territory.
Governor: II they can handle the
work, should they not do so?
Mra. Weaver: Ifhink not. 1t has !
taken Is years almost in California to
work from the old standard to this
new, almost universal standard. 1t |
would take long while to do it here.
Meanwhile. we do not want, it seems |
to me, 10 encourage, whether neces
sary or not, students in thinking that |
we have already attained the stand
ard of the mainland.
Governor: Do you want to turn it {
all over to the mainland?
mTU IyCNyeTs NO. 4 tlluh every Il
new state has had the experience Of
having first to import all its teachers;
then having to use a native teacher
who hasRnot the scholastic training, /
then gradually eleyating its system OF
training so that the state is on a par
with the older states.
Goveta1r: i have had q little ex-
perience n the Philippines and Japan.
1 did not pay much attention to the
schools. IN China, but | certainly did
go thoroughly into them in the Phil.
ippines. Il was my custom always to
thoroughly investigate schools, al 7
though that was not my business. II |
Is a question. Of whether the people
that belong here should not be en-
courased II they can carry the thing |
along, and think we should be very |
careful about costing q shadow on
them unless 1t can be proved.
Mrs. Weaver: Have we said any
thing IN this paper casting in any way I
q shadow on those people?
Governor: You say they are not as
competent as the others That is more