The Fargo forum and daily republican. [volume] (Fargo, N.D.) 1894-1957, 1917-01-16

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occurred here" Lawson declared, "that
IL is right that you should hear all
nave to say. When there Is direct
difference OF opinion-stronger than
Veracity-raised, it is perfectly obvi-
Gus that one or the other of us is
committing perjury, deliberate. rank
perjury. This is no syndicate or ma
tional bank meeting. This is a meet
| ing or high committee of congress.
In my opinion there is nothing of
greater Importance than for your COM
mlttee to arrive at fair and honest
decision and to do that you must hear
what / have to say
j. p. Morgan Subpoenaed.
1nterrupting Lawson, Representa-
| time Harrison moved that J. P. Morgan,
J. 8. Bache, H. Dawson, F. A. Wander
lip. Arthur Upper and 8. c. Wexler
be subpoenaed to appear in the
investigation. The motion was carried
and the subpoenas issued. Harrison
made no explanation of his reason for
ordering these subpoenaes.
Representatives Garrett and Foster
and others objected to Lawson's ar
gument and there was a stormy
Wrangle during which Lawson shout
ed his insistence that he should be
heard fully.
could tell all he wanted.
Lawson resumed his narrative of
his meeting with Henry, reiterating
that the chairman told him the leak
was too serious for an investigation
at this time, but that he favored a
general inquiry later into the stock
market. Lawson said he endorsed
that and revealed to Henry that he
had much to do with the money trust
inquiry, though Henry, a member of
the committee. was unaware Of it.
i told him." Lawson said, that I
dug UP much of the information. I'm
termyer went to Europe while / did
it. personally paid the bills of the
experts, upward of $4,000 and asked
witness.
Here is a chance I told him, to
duplicate that. 1t is the greatest
thing that can be done for the Amer
lean people"
go to Wall street and set up shop"
was the advice Lawson said he gave
Henry There, he said all the stock
moned with their books and clerks
and forced to reveal the inside trans
actions.
Lansing and 5aruch Named.
Referring again to his conference
with Henry, mentioning Secretary
Lansing and Bernard Baruch, Law
son declared Henry told him the COM
Of Lansing's talks at the Biltmore
with the New York broker and the
substance of part Of another.
Il said to Henry go through it
from A to r." Lawson testified, land
before you are one-third done the lid
will be blown off. Congress will
know and the world will know who
hn hun
millions. That was what we talked
about in the three hours and a quar-
ter I was with him.
He asked me one thing before we
left the meeting: I ask you to do this,
he said, throw the newspaper men off
the scent. We cannot gain anything by
letting them know that we are coming
back here at 3 o'clock
$50 l met Mr.. Henry again at 8
O'clock" Lawson continued. HE said
to me: Lawson, I'm sorry that we
can't do what you say. agree with
you that it is good thing and regret
that am going out of Office on March
A. said that there was time enough
yet to do something. Then Henry said
he had come to the conclusion that the
matter was too serious to be made
public now. He then added: What do
you say II we get at 1t again in thirty
days"
Il said it would be tracked by
that time and We would never have
this opportunity again"
state the way in which the names
came to be mentioned first in your in
terview with Mr.. Henry" said Repre-
sentative Campbell.
II entered the room and the chair
man said nice things to me.
Then he said: Lawson, we've been
through these things and now let us be
fair with each other said to him that
l thought his committee would dispute
his right to hold star chamber ses-
sion on this matter and that Iprobaoly
should have to talk to the committee.
He said: No, it's my duty to do this.
There are hundreds of things that come
before this committee, many of them
worthless charges, and it is my duty to
fit them and see whether they should
be given to the committee
VERY well, 1 said, but it is under
stood that We are to think aloud. We
shook hands on it and Henry said:
That's it exactly. What's proper to give
to the public or to the committee Wen
give and what isn't wen hold in con-
tidence.' said that was agreed.
Then Mr.. Henry said: To show
you where we stand. I'll tell you some
Of the things we've got. We have 1t
that a Mr.. Baruch who made large
contributions to the Democratic cam
paign fund bad four conversations
with Secretary lansing
That's going some. replied
-Four of EN-
"Then he added: We also have it
that Count Won Bernstorff. the Ger
man ambassador, is so mixed up in it
that he made over $2.000.00O.
Then Henry asked me: DO you
thing that Baruch could be using his
friendship in such a way and involv-
ing the integrity of the Democratic
partyr
"Mr. Chairman l said. I think he
would be the last man in the world to
do such a thing and / will stake my
head that Secretary Lansing wou!S
not take postage stamp of profit out
these things were floating all around
him."
Lawson testified that Mrs. Ruth
Thomson Visconti declared that Will
liam w. Price. the White House cor
respondent, who, she said, acted as a
60 between for Secretary Tumulty
and others. stated that Price received
$4,000 cash and that Tumulty received
a much larger sum-"
Mr.. Lawson declared that the i'm
preston that Chairman Henry had |
mentioned Secretary McAdoo in con-
nection with the alleged leak, was err
roneous. That information, he declar- |
ed. came from entirely another source. !
The sergeant-at-arms of the house |
reported to Chairman Henry today |
that he had been unable to locate Mrs. |
Ruth Thomson Visconti, sought as |
witness in the leak investigation. |
Members of the committee said there |
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