The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1916-1920, 1917-10-04
PREMIERS TALK PEACE
weksrle ana Csernin Discuss Dual
M0narehy Aims At Dinner. D

Monarchy AIDas ~ Dinhefs
AMSTERDAM. Oct. 8.-Budapest des-
patches received here say that At a din
ner given by the Hungarian Premier. DR..
Alexander Wekerie. in honor Of Count
Czernin. the Austro-H Hungarian Minister
Of Foreign Affairs. the latter. In reply to
an invitation to make statement con-
cernine his peace policy. said:
To TalleyrAnd- has been ascribed the
saying that words are given to conceal
thoughts. II may be that this saying
was true for the diplomacy Of hts GEN.
tury, but for the present time l hardly
can conceive a phrase less accurate.
THE millions who are lighting In the
trenche or behind the lines wish to
know why and for what they are fight
ing. They have a right to learn why
peace. which the entire world desires.
has not yet come.
when was appointed to my post
utilized the first opportunity openly to
declare that we did not want to oppress
any one but that on the other hand We
would not suffer any oppression and that
we were prepared to enter upon peace
negotiations as soon as our enemies ac-
cepted the standpoint Of peace by agree
ment'
Count Czernin said n plain statement
Of war aims was indispensable. He ex-
planned the conversion Of the Central
Powers to the doctrine OF disarmament
by declaring that armaments were neces-
sary until the world was convinced that
Austria Hungary was not a dying State
subject to disnemberment.
Csernin Makes War Threat.
In conclusion Count Czernin threatened
that unless peace without annexations
or indemnities was Immediately accepted
IL would be necessary for Austria
Hungary to revise It's programme and
seek compensation for further costs OF
| the war. He continued:
This war taught US that We must
reckon on a great increase in former ar
maments. With unrestricted arInaments
| the nations would be compelled to In
crease tenfold everything. and the mill
tary estimates OF the great Powers would
| amount to billions. That is impossible.
| 1t would mean complete ruin.
ITO return to the armament status
| Of 1914 would be a great reduction,
| but there would he no meaning In not
going further and actually disarming.
| Hence complete disarmament Is the only
issue from the difficulty.
"Gigantic fleets will have no further
purpose when the nations Of the world
guarantee the freedom Of the seas, and
land armies will be reduced to the level
required for the maintenance Of inter-
nal order Every State will have Il
give Up something Of Its independence
for the purpose of insuring the world
peace. consider It our duty to place
ourselves at the head of the movement
to do everything humanely possible to
accelerate the naturalization Of thil
| Grant nacifiC movement
Strongly emphasizing the necessity for
naval disarmament on the high seas
Count Cssrnin said:
"I purposely say the high seas, for ]
! do not extend the idea to narrow seas, and
+ freely admit that for sea communica.
tions special rules and regulations must
obtain with these factors made cleal
every ground for territorial guarantees
disappears.
''Th,s is the basic idea Of the beautiful
and sublime note which the Pope ad
dressed to the whole world. II this basi.
10 accepted by our enemies we can re-
nounce the enlargement Of the Austro
Hungarian monarchy. always provided
that the enemy completely evacuates oul
territory"
War Makes New Condition..
I'm broad outline our programme 10
the reestablishment OF order In tn
world has been laid down in our repl!
to tho Pope's note, IT may appear TO b.
lnconceivabl to many people that th
Central Powers desire to make renun
citation with respect TO military arma
ments, but the war has produced ney
facts. conditions and conceptions whicl
have shaken the foundations Of Europea
politics as they previously have existed.
1--WE have from the beginning state'
our aim and adhered to II. But let n
one cherish the delusion that this pacfi
and moderate programme OF ours cal
and will hold good forever. II our enc
mics compel US to continue the war W.