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Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1917-10-06
PRESBYTERIAN.
PREBYTER1AN.
Church of the Covenant
CONNECTICUT AVE. AND n ST.
OPEN EVERY DAY AND NIGHT.

Assistants. REV. JOHN CARRUTHERs, REy y
ALBERT BROOKHoUSE.
District War Commission Secretaries, office az at
church: Rev. Deane Edwards. daily, S-".oo'
Rev Tertius Van Dyke. daily, $780, ,,..o,
Young women's Department: Miss Mapei
Coats. Miss Carolyn Smith. Miss Eizaoe'n
Johnson. .
daily. Sexton, Mr.. William Collier.
Saturday, Oct. 8. s pm.-Fifteenth Pleasant
Saturday Night for soldiers primarily. put Ior
young people also. Miss Eleanor Altman, new
York. pupil of Paderewski. in brief recital ia.
Mason & Hamlin piano furnished oy ''s'el
Music Co.
9:30-Sunday school opens.
II sO-Morning service; sermon by Or. Wood.
1:O0-Officers' Luncheon at University Clupc
3so-Young Peoples yespsrs a in chnr enon Os
for al 9ossa hsSs s' WTo
Miss Eleanor ,a Altman. New York City. pupil 81
Paderewski. plays brief recital program ana
7;45-s:0o-Musical service in church:
s3o-ReGular service Sermon BY by " Of pss oSn
WEEK DAYS.
Monday-Girls Night: knitting; Red ross @ss
work music. Tuesday, p.m.-Choral CLUB iof
Young Women. Wednesday. p.m.-Evening
Choir THURSDAY, 7:45, hymn singing; s. prepar-
Friday, IL a.m.-Xmas bags meeting at church.
MS SKsGS2 w "a 1d4s Ger
DOORS opEN HOUR BEFORE EACH SERVICE.
Washington Heights r5 ess5sn.
REV JOHN C. PALMER. D. D., Minister.
Corner Columbia and kalorama roads.
7:45 p.m.-"The Call of the Good
Good music at both services. Public invited.
Co.+~,1 SOUTHERN ASSEMBLY,.
SS1ltIdA 10th and Irving SITS. NV.
JAMES H; TAYLOR. Pastor -.,o
Preaching by the pastor, IL am. and i:3o
pm Communion at morning service r., ,on =: f ~;
30 and p 9Th Arsillery viii be guests evening
service. Prayer service, Thursday. pm.
Fourth Church 18th Streets asp n paiSsosi
1890 a.m.-Rally Day Union Sunday School sns
and church service. Patriotic program. spe ,
eai music PI sryee aiy Evsrybody con-
daily welcomed.
Westminster Church Memorial ' s'n St
Communion service at ii o'clock Am. At
7:45 pm The Bugle Calls of the y; s.
Army given by bugler from the 9Th Resi-
ment of Engineers.
C:v+L 18th AND KENNEDY
o14ln streets northwest.
REV. MARCUS A. SPENCER. Pastor
Dyke: pm Rev. G.. \. Johnston Ron.
Prayer meeting. Thursday, pm
New York Ave. N ,aiS , nSh * street.
DR.. WALLACE RADCLIFFE. Pastor.
Music led by quartet choir.
100 m-Public worship. DR.. Radcline VIII
preach.
500 p.m.-"The Soul of Bishop
$50 a. m.-Bible school.
9:45 a.m.-Adult Bible classes.
Gas p.m.-Christian Endeavor Society.
Special welcome to soldiers and sailors.
lexington NORTH F,oEas e. .rs and It
Rev. HENRY E. BRUNDAGE. D. D.. Minister.
IL am. Loyalty" 7:4o pm. 'Symmet-
rical Religion"
Eastern Presbyterian Church
Sixth ST. and Nd. Ave. NE.
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Home of Truth,

1s41 Wyoming ave.. n; esss Sunday s.evices.
wednesday, ii am. Friday At 8 p.m.. heal
ing meeting Practical Christianity. Teach.
ing and healing daily by appointment. All
invited,
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Co,+~,1 tsoUTHERN ASSEMBLY,.
SSl1tI d1 10th and Irving SITS. NV.
JAMES H. TAYLOR. Pastor.
Preaching by the pastor. IL an and ~
$50 am; C. E Jr pm. Social hour for
young people. 8 pm. G. E.. pm. Men from
Sd and 9th Artillery will be guests at evening
service PRAYER service, Thursday, pm.
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All Are Cordially Invited.
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AhTTdODkSI ~ - C1[ -.
Mt. Pleasant N is,n r. St oh Se.p han so91A
REV. ]. c. .CoPENHAvER, Pastor.
Sunday school, $3.50 an; IL am. preach
ing by pastor Epworth League, ! Pm;
n m first of special series of sermons by pas.
tor on 1.-The 1000 Man, the 1909 Physical
Mantle Dignity and Value Of the Human
Body
q. III SECOND AT S ST. NV.
SI> dul REV. d. NJ. BROWN. Pastor.
HOO am-COMMUN1oN SERVICES.
7:45 p.m.--lhe Question of Revival-What:
NM u ..~ IL AM and 1:3O p.m.-Rev.
Nlt.Nd1n1er l.. H. SMALLwooD.
Mt. Vernon Place SIS s1s A NV
REV. EDWARD X. HARDIN. D. D.. Pastor.
$50 am.-sunday school.
II 90 a.m.-Bishop w. A. Gambler
700 pm.-Epworth League.
800 p.m.-Dr. T. N. Ivey.
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Simpson NJ. E. s's' HSs1s : " f' n:w .'s'
Rev W. s. JACKSON. Pastor.
$50 am. $. s.: II am, subject. ~ naFsr.
sal Messing $3.50 and pm. Ep"or'h
League. 8 pm. subject "a Hidden Life.
NINTH AND T STREETS
4d11ll1llS NORTHWEST.
LUCIUS c. CLARK. D.: D., Pastor,
11:0O a.m.-.TIIE OID-T1ME REL1GI S
Sunday school. $50 am.
Epworth League. pm. --
Ebenezer NJ. s'h " sN ID pes slS pas s@
and TAO nm. sermons by pastor.
ap'm-. anniversary parsonage committee. MIS-.
Maria Brown. pres sermon the u hnd, pr :
~ testimonial to Mrs. Ella {. Dean, dele
gate to ". H. NJ. s.. Kansas City No. by
w H. NJ, s.
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Ryland M. E. 10th s AN9 , sEN.h's
REV JOHN II. JEFFRIES. Pastor
THE ONLY WELSH METHODIST
PREACHER IN WASHINGTON.
Seventy-fourth Anniversary.
Sunday School Rally. $50.
Communion service. II.
MASONIC SERVICE. 7:3o.
Subject OF pastors Sermon
The Fruits of Masonry.
Five of the prominent lodges have accepted
Invitations TO attend. ..,,
SPECIAL MUSIC. ALL WELCOME.
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Miss Grace Simering. second vice pres
lent of Trinity Chapter. Epworth
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Washington Heights fr esaTsn

SECOND WARTIME COMMUNION, OCT. T.
MORNING AT 10:45: EVENING Al 80 -
DOORS OPEN HOUR BEFORE EACH SEW Cf.
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W
REV. JOHN C. PALMER D. D., Minister.
Corner Columbia and kalorama roads,
IL 100 a.m.-'.L' Enyoi.'
1:45 p.m.-''The Call of the Good.
Good music at both services. Public invited
Evening star., 1917-09-09

Guarding Venice. Towing an aerial
guard through the Grand Canal. Re
peated air raids on Venice have COM
PEELED the authorities to take every pre-
caution, and feet of several hundred
balloons and airplanes maintain
VlQi1ant watch Central News rhotoD
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
Don't Seed Wheat After Nov. LIST.

IF ground prepared for wheat is
not seeded before November LIST, that
ground should be seeded to rye" says
ment Station. Except in the extreme
southern section OF the State, seeding
later than this date is a risk that un-
der ordinary conditions will cause
loss
The recommendation that rye be
seeded instead of what is based on the
fact that where ground is prepared
and crops such as corn or tomatoes
are to follow, the rye will make ex-
cellent green manure In time Of
almost prohibitive fertilizer prices
this item alone should not be over
looked. Furthermore, rye makes ex-
cellent spring pasture, and IL the
weather continues favorable tC its
growth, winter pasture will be avail
able from 1t also.
1t has been general result that
too late seeding OF wheat leaves the
grower with poor stand in the spring
because of winter killing. This is a
waste of seed, time and labor, and
the use of the ground for other crops
is delayed until summer, when that
wheat which does live through is left
to mature. Wheat prices are high,
but ground space is valuable, and il a
wheat crop cannot be successfully
brought through the winter, ii is de-
cidedly better to substitute another
crop
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
NIAGARA KEEPS ARMIES WELL
Chlorine, Used in Water, Kills the
Germs Of Disease. Vet Leaves
the Drinl<er Untouched.

In the trenches OF Europe there
must be pure water. lest epidemic dis
ease sweep over them, destroying more
than the shells. .shrapnel and machine
guns of the enemy; and Niagara comes
forward with chlorine, or an allied
product, which kills the germs Of dis
ease, yet leaves the drlnker I'M
touched.
In the simplest forms. the process OF
breaking up salt and getting command
Of the qualities Of the two elements in
ii consists of disSolving about one part
OF common salt in eight parts of water
and passing a given current OF cleo
tricity through it. The resultant fluid
is q great bleacher and diSinfectant.
A gallon OF it will kill all the germs in
a days drinking water of city like
Washington.
A thousand American cities SteriliZe
their water with these products of
Niagara, which have done more than
any other agency in the hands of the
sanitarians to wipe out water-borne
epidemics. In the hospitals of France
and England they form the active part
of mixtures used to sterilize the
wounds of the soldiers.-National
Geographic Magazine.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
FAMILY REFUSED TO MOVE
Tenant contended Baby Made No More
Noise Than the Owners Bark
ing Dog.

There is a baby in an East End fam
lily, and the owner of the house in
which the family lives is a woman
who owns a dog. The baby cries and
the dog barks and bowls, says thesIn-
dianapolis News.
The family with the baby went on q
vacation trip recently. and during their
absence the landlady decided she pre-
ferred different tenant--one with
out a crying baby. So she notified the
family TO move out.
When the father asked for an ex-
PLANTATION she told him she was tired
OF being annoyed by the baby.
That ''riled" the proud papa.
You don't like n baby?" he re.
torted you don't like the baby be-
cause it criesT And you live with that
dog that banks and bowls all day long?
A crying baby is no more nuisance
than barking, bowling dog"
He informed the landlady that ne
would move out with the baby when
she got rid of the dog, but not before.
There was no change in the situation
at last reports.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
Chance the Farmers Missed.

A great opportunity for amassing
wealth has slipped out OF the hands Of
every farmer and gardener this year,
simply because they did not know
how to grasp the opportunity, and
there was nobody to tell them about it.
The disappointment is temporary the
opportunity will return, says the B0s-
ton Transcript.
Golden seal root, for instance, is
wanted by druggists, and is worth $12
q pound. and it might have been grown
in quantities in the United States.
The farmer who had seen the posi-
bilities In its culture could have reaped
rich harvest. And many American
families will remember the time when
the arnica flower was a common flow
er, which the old folks saved and used
for home remedy for sprains, but the
commercial prospect in it's culture has
not been realized and 1t has been al
lowed to disappear until now it Is
worth s. pound. Druggists will be
glad to pay that much money for it.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
EquinectiaI Storms.

The month of September brings in
its train the first touch of cold wealth
er and frost and the co-called "equi-
noctial storms" The sun crosses the
line" on September %, the autumnal
equinox, and summer is astronomically
at an end. The seasonal change Of
weather generally brings about that
! time violent storm with its attendant
disaster to shipping. As similar storms
occur In March while the sun is near
the spring equinox. there has natural
ly down through the centuries grown
up the impression that the suns cross
ing the equator is directly responsible
for these equinoctial storms. Nothing
could be more absurd. The equator in
the sky is as imaginary a circle as the
equator on the earth. Weather is
not made on the spot, but is the result
Of influences spread over large areas.
Changes in the moon ard spots on
the sun have been the phenomena most
generally blamed for changes in the
weather - but apparently without
scientific reason.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
Rats And Mice The
Worlds Worst Pests

Rats and mice are among the worst
animal pests in the world, according
to biologists OF the U. S. Department
OF Agriculture.
From their home among filth they
visit dwellings and storerooms to
pollute and destroy human food.
The rat carries bubonic plague and
many other diseases fatal to man and
has no doubt been responsible for
more untimely deaths among human
beings than all wars OF history.
In the United States rats and mice
destroy each year in homes, in-fac-
tories, stores, and warehouses, in
cares and on ships, crops, poultry,
and other property valued at more
than 100000 ,000-an amount equiv
alent to the gross earnings of an army
OF 100000 men.
Grain, eaten and wasted by rats
and mice on many farms. would pay
all the farmers taxes.
Rats and mice breed from 6 to 10
times a year, producing their destruc-
tive kind at an alarming rate.
They are parasites without a sim
gle redeeming characteristic
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
PROPOSES LAND TORPEDO
Philsdelphian Processes To Believe 1t
Is Quite Practicable.

The submarine torpedo is the most
destructive weapon OF the sea. Then
why not land torpedo? A cheap We
hicle could be made to carry high
explosive mine, huge shrapnel, or a
missile which would be a combination
OF both. Where necessary, provide the
vehicle with caterpillar wheels and
with a wire cutter, and dispatch it to-
ward the enemy, over shell craters
and through entanglements into the
opposing trenches. There the charge
could be exploded, and the men and
property with in blasted into oblivion.
The originator OF this plan is Felix
Sabah. of Philadelphia, whose idea,
as he has conceived it, is illustrated
in action. The ground Of mo Mans
Land being fiat, ordinary gasoline
automobiles OF small size are used. In
them the charge is carried, consist
ing of about thousand pounds OF ex-
plosives, mounted on the crutch-like
frames. The firing wires which
lead back to the electric igniting coils
are projected from the rear The out
posts telephone the order TO fire. The
fatal button is pressed-then CHASTITY
destruction.
And the enemy? Has he no defense?
No doubt he will erect concrete bar
riers, and blast huge craters. Cater
pillar wheel, however, would be sin
gle means of overcoming the craters.
The use OF percussion caps, which
would ignite the torpedo charge on
striking the walls, would be one way
OF smashing through them.
Let us not forget that once we can
get the torpedoes there the rest will
be easy II nothing else can be used,
time-fuses will set off the charge at
the proper instant.
The other military considerations
involved in the practical application
of the project are much more simple
There will be no difficulty in con-
structing the light type of automobile
that would be required. In fact, the
plan would provide the means OF Civ
ing many an Anticipated automobile
which is about>ready for the junk heap
its opportunity for making its last
sacrifice.
From the shipping point in Europe
the men of the Land Torpedo Corps"
could each ride an automobile direct
ly up to the front, thus relieving the
railroads of the burden Here the
torpedo charges could be mounted,
tests could be made, and everything
could be planned for a concerted
assault.
To launch the torpedoes on this
drive, competent officers would have
to set and lock the steering gears.
Throwing open clutch from the rear
OF the machine, the automobile leaps
ahead audaciously. The vital parts
being armored, the enemy will be I'M
able to damage it severely when the
machine is seen to be rushing to-
wards them at some sixty miles an
hour-Popular Science Monthly.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
STRANGE LIGHTS In SKY CAUSE
WONDERMENT AT IGLEHART
Some Foresters Brave Wind And Cold
To Spend Week End At Their
Bungalows.

Iglehsrt, Nov. 5.
1t 10 either rain, strong winds or
frost. A case of "You pay your
money and you take your choice or
you must have 1t, choice or not. The
air continues cool heresbouts. -
Every farmer seems to De busy get
ting in his potatoes. Shortage Of la
Dor has been q drawback in getting
them in sooner.
On Sunday evening there was an IN
usual phenomenon in the heavens.
Both northern and southern skies were
lighted up brilliantly by two beautiful
large, luminous stars. or they appear
ed to be stars. One seemed to move
toward the North, one toward the
South. The southern light had a
greenish cast Everybody is wonder
ing what they could have been. After
nine o. clock they entirely disappeared.
Some think it may have been airships.
Sherwood Forest was the scene Of
several week. end parties who braved
th wind and cold to spend few days
&C their bungalows.
Mr.. and Mrs. Gillian and children
spent the week. end at their bungalow
at the Forest.
DR. and Mrs. Dunbracco spent SUM-
day at Sherwood Forest looking after
their new bungalow.
There are not many coming into the
country while the air is so cool.
Mr.. Alvin Ward and wife motored
down from Baltimore and were the
guests of Mrs. George Collins sunday.
Mr.. and Mrs. Clautice, VIM. Clau-
tice and young brothers, were the
guests of Mr.. and Mrs. George Wiki
ing at Sherood Forest on Sunday.
Mrs. George Viking, of Sherwood
Forest, has finised knitting sleeve
less sweater and sent it to MIR. LIE Roy
Newlin, of Co. M. at Camp Mcclellan.
Admission, Ala. He wss making his
home with Mr.. and Mrs. Henry WIKI
ing at Iglehart before he enlisted.
Ii is hoped that there will be quite a
large attendance at the bensfit st the
Colonial tonight. given by the Eagles
for the Red Cross.
L. M.gW.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
MOVING PICTURE ATTRACTIONS.
At the Republic Theatre Tonight.

In the part of Robert TraVers, In
1.-The Soul Master" the Greater Vita
graph feature which will be seen at
the Republic tonight, Earle Will
liams gives one of the finest charac-
terizations of his career.
The play, which is 10 five reels, is
based on a novel written by James
Oliver Curwood, author Of Gods
Country and Woman the "Kazan"
stories and other powerful fiction. 1t
deals with the Transformation of a
man from kindly loving character
to soul-embittereo, ruthless employ.
er.
Mr.. Williams, who, by the way, re-
Gently was announced as the winner of
a popularity contest conducted by a
Minneapolis newspaper, is shown in
the esrly part of the picture as q nap.
by young married man, in love with
his wife and the slave of their little
year-old daughter. He finds his wife
Ia the arms of another man, throttlss
the interloper and is in a fair way Of
putting an end to him until the wife
knocks him unconscious by striking
him on the head with q statuette.
She and the other man flee, taking
the baby girl with them. Recovering
from his wound, the husband seals his
heart and becomes machine, devoted
solely to business. He succeeds to
the point where he becomes the owner
OF chain of department stores, but
he is q martinez to. those under him
and earns the title of 1.-The Man With
out Soul
Such he is when Ruth Carroll, play
ed by Katherine Lewis, goes to work
in his stole rs q sslesgirl. He is
drawn to the girl instinctively ami
even hints at marriage. bat che spurns
her rich employer for boy employed
in the store. After several thrilling
episodes, the man without q soul"
through seeing q picture of Ruth's
mother learns that the girl is the
daughter he had lost fifteen years be-
fore 1t is then that he masters again
the soul that had been asleep so long.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
At The RenuhIIc tomorrow.

Excellent characterization of two
contrasting roles mark the work Of
Mabel Taliaferro, who is csst both as
Jeanne Labordie, charming, unself-
ism girl, and as her twin brother
Jacques, who is pampersd and selfish.
In 1.-THE Jury of Fate" Metro. Rolfe
picture released August 6.
The etory by Finis Fox adapted by
June Mathis, is laid for the most part
in the heart Of the Canadian forests.
somewhere in the northern part Of
Quebec. Henri Labordie's wife dies
after giving birth 10 twins, and he
makes an agreement with his friend,
Euval Hebert, that Jeanne, whsn old
en- ugh, shall marry Hebert's son
Louis. Jacques Is the favorite of his
father, who, when the story opens. is
fast becoming blind; and in order to
lessen the blow Jeanne masquerades
as Jacques, after he is accidentally
drowned. The father dies soon after
and, carrying out his request, she goes
to his friend Hebert, learns of tn.
agreement, and agrees to marry Louis
Hebert, q weak-nntured, dissipsted
youth, although she 10 in love with
Duncan, surveyor, whom she has
met 10 the north woods. On the night
before the wedding Louis returns from
trip to the north bringing Duncan,
who believes that Jeanne has deceived
him. Louis hears their conversation,
denonnces Jeanne, and Is killed by be-
ing thrown over banister in a Eight
with Francois Leblanc, a hslfbreed
friend of Jeanne's. Leblanc and
Jeanne return TO the forests, and,
through the unselfshness of Leblanc,
VIA himself loves Jeanne, a recon-
ciliation is brought about between
Jeanne and Duncan.
There are many beautiful woodland
views, and Director Tod browning has
made excellent use OF double expos
ures, Miss Talisferro playing opposite
herself in number Of scenes. Much
of the heart interest is supplied by F.
Il. Bennett IS Leblanc, the halfbreed,
in love with Jeanne, part reminis'
cent of Poleon Doret in "The Bar
rier." Albert Tavernier as Henri La
bordie Bradley Barker as Louis He.
bert, and II. F. Webber as Duval He
bert are satisfactory in their respec-
tive parts and the photography is ex.
cellent.
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06

Mr.. and Mrs. Brown decided to have
a spin in their new motor car. They
had proceeded just three miles when
the car broke down and refused to re-
start. Mr.. Brown got out to make a
general inspection Of the working
parts, which, needless to say, he knew
nothing about. He had been under
meath the car for some considerable
time and had done little toward repair
ing except using bad language, when
his wife interviewed.
'sNow, john" she said, 81 won't have
you using such language. Have pa
tience, like job"
"Job be hanged!" replied John test
lily. sob never had his nose fast in
a cog wheel"
Evening capital and Maryland gazette. (Annapolis, Md.) 1910-1922, 1917-11-06
Delightful Attraction AT The
Colonial Tomorrow

Delightful Vivian Martin in an ex.
cellent human interest story 1.-THE
Trouble Buster" will be the delightful
and pleasing attraction at the Colonial
Theatre tomorrow evening.
8 Vivian Martin has what is called
the greatest gift of the theatre, snd
that is-charm. And she is given
ample opportunity to exhibit this trait
in her latest Paramount production
1.-The Trouble Buster This produc-
tion offers Vivian Martin in picture
that is particularly adapted to her
own acting abilities. As the little
newsy, masquerading as a boy, she
surrounds the character with enough
sympathy and realism to react very
forciby upon the hearts of the audi.
ence. She IL both forcsful and thor
ouohly consistent throughout and her
ever pleasing personality holds full
sway.
1.-THE Trouble Buster with it's well
written and entertaining inserts ably
produced and entertaining story will
more than please those who see it. It
has sill the Paramount esr-msrks that
make it story of value. Paul Willis.
who plays the opposite role to that of
the brilliant little star, does excep.
tionally excellent work. Vivian Mar
tin makes a charming boy and when
"Blacker" paul Willis) takes her la
his arms at the end of the story and
she asks him what he came for. his
answer "for me love of Mike" is typi-
cal of the character be portrys.
1.-THE Trouble Buster is thoroughly
pleasing and enjoyable pictur e
throughout and delightful Vivian Mar
tin is truly at her best.
Burton Holmes Travelogue also.