New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-01-16

counts. and that the accounts nag
s,arted IA stated. with the selling o.
thousand shares of Steel snort ah1
there werc TO be future interviews ana
/ refused 10 meet the man IN the hust'c
and hustle Of things, and ] madc
short cut.
81, happcned that was having CON
Coyencc with Mr.. white in regard 20
other matters. and / said to Mr.. Nhlte
.Yon and Fisk e. Co. arc very intlmaty
and YOU and Pliny Fisk arc iriends' ana
could YOU corroborate such a tnlhg 10
This before 90 any further with 10
Notification from White
"And thereupon Mr. White made the
statement TO me that ! gave you be
fore. which I have given you now ID
connection with his name. went no
further with the other matter WIN tne
hunting up Of the other man. 30 thal
I have given YOU all the names now
that is the names ! gave in the former
question Pliny Fisk, of Harvey FISK q
Sons: the Senator referred TO as ~
and Nr. McAdoo. Of the Cabinet
The chairman arc all the
names? 49,
MIR. Lawson-Those are all Vhe
names. think Barney & Co.. too, were
in that statement. J am not quite sure
whether that is in that or another.
Chairman Henry, basing his question
on a letter Mr. Lawson had written OF
January -, in which he offered 10
rive names. again brought out the
name Of Pliny Fisk. lie then pro
ceeded TO the members OF the Caplnet'
calling each By name and asking: DO
YOU refer TO so and Soy
81 never heard the name IN that con-
nection." was Mr.. Lawson'5 reply 70
every one until the chairman came 70
the Secretary of the Treasury, when ne
said:
ferred 10 Mr.. McAdoo."
The chairman DO you refer to ROD
ert Lansing, Secretary OF state?
Mr.. Lawson In that question, no.
The chairman DO you in any ques-
ton?
Mr. Lawson-Yes.
The chairman You called his name
into this controversy.
Denies Dragging In Lansing
Mr.. Lawson-I did not call his name
into it. In fact, | will drop 1t II you
will allow me 10 keep from answering
Mr.. Chairman.
The chairman No, ! am not willing
for you to keep from answering /
want you to answer that question.
Mr.. Lawson stated that Con-
gresham mentioned the name OF
banker, member of Congress and an
other great officer. Now, | will give
the names that were given 10 me.
The chairman-Name the great
banker.
Mr.. Lawson-The banker was Mr..
Bernard Baruch; the member OF the
Cabinet was Mr.. Lansing The mem
Der of Congress that stated 1t to me
was Chairman Henry, Of this commit
tee.
The chairman-D you mean 10
draw Mr.. Lansing into this contro
versy on your own responsibility?
Mr.. Lawson No, did not draw
no. | did not under any circumstances
draw Mr.. Lansing in. have held Mr..
Lansing and the German Ambassador
out of this until am threatened with
Jail. until / have been libelled all over
this country in the press az having no
information. and being a buffer and
four-husher, and by one Of your
members. on the floor, that he did not
know whether it was better 10 have
me put in jail or d lunatlc asylum
And ! opened this hearing, Deggihs
YOU used the words 81 plead win
the committee that you do not allow
me 10 mention these names VIII
not have it thrown on me that
have
Continuing to use Mr.. Lawson's let
ter as a text. Mr.. Henry demanded TO
know the name Of the big banking
house" which did the business and the
member of the great officials family
and his partner who did the go-oe-
Mr.. Lawson D. Barney & Co.
The chairman who IS the
member Of the great officials family !
Barney G. Co. is where?
Mr.. Lawson Wall Street. Iney are
a great house. Mr.. Malcolm McAdoo.
The chairmsn-The member OF
great officials family?
Mr.. Lawson Yes, a brother OF Sec
rotary McAdoo.
The chairman his partner who
did the go-betweenlngI
Mr.. Lawson Stuart G.. Gibboney.
The chairman Where does he live.
Sir. Lawson Well, he does business.
Both Mr.. McAdoo and Mr. Gibboney
have offices i'm the Grand Central Depot,
In New York, and also at 1866 Broadway
and one other place. They have three
different Offices.
Chairman Henry then demanded the
name Of the great public man who
knew Of the leak machinery.
Mr. Lawson--Mr. Paul Warburg.
The chairman Who is he?
Mr. Lawson lie is the head or one
Of the heads. Of the Reserve Bank.
With the exception Of Mr.. Henry's
Yeplv to Lawson and Mr.. Lawson's eN,
PLANTATION and retort to Henry referred
to in the foregoing this concluded to
days hearing. and the committee sd-
iourned until tomorrow morning