New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-08-05
Attorney COnfers With
Woman in Mineola Jail
to Map Out Case
Prisoner Collapses
After Telling Story
Breakdown Only Tempo
rary, and Calm Re-
turns to Her Aid
star Correspondent

tstar Correspondent
MINEOLA. Long Island, Aug Al
q conference with her lawyer Henry A.
1-fsrbart. in the woman's section Of the
Nassau County jail here to-day Mrs.
eIsDca De SauIles turned the first legal
,-ound in preparation 20 defend her
elf for the murder Of John l.. De
esyIles her divorced husbandi Friday
night.
Mr.. Uterhart indicated that the de-
ssncs would be temporary emotional
insanity when the heiress niece Of
former President Of Chile, is placed
on trial for murder in Mineola' prob
ably in October,
Mrs. De Saulles to-day told her law
yer that she went to her former hus-
bands country home, on Hampstead
Plain, near Westbury. TO reclaim her
four-and-a-half-yea son. Jack, be-
cause she feared trickery when the boy
had not been returned to her by
o'clock Friday night. That was the
hour, Mr.. Uterhart asserts, Mrs. De
Saulles claims the boy was to be re,
stored to her.
"Loaned" Son to Father
Bv an understanding with the father
Mrs. De SauHes asserts, she was TO
have possession of Jack at her home IN
Poslvn until August g, but on Friday
she Toaned" him to Mr.. De Saulles for
the evening on the plea that the boys
grandfather and aunt had come to see
him. but with the strict stipulation that
he would be returned by o'clock.
Rv the terms Of an earlier agree
msnt. reached after Mrs. De Saulles
divorced the former Yale alIlete last
winter. the child was to spend June
with his father, July with his mother
and August with his father again. But
Mr.. Uterhart said, Mrs. De Saulles did
not GET the boy until July and, to
have a full month with him, had ar
ranged with Mr.. De Saulles to keep
him at Roslyn until August 8.
When Jack was not returned at the
appointed hour Friday night, Mr.. Uter-
hart saws. the mother began to suspect
breach of faith. A frantic plea over
the telephone for the father to return
the boy until August 8 is said to have
been met with refusal-but this the
LAWYER would not discuss.
Refusal Deranged Her Mind
At any rate, Mr.. Uterhart says, the
clstrust bred by Mrs. De Saulles's fail
ure TO get the boy back when she ex-
pscted proved the eliminating straw
which broke the proud Latin mothers
spirit and temporarily deranged her
mind. Selling a revolver, she called
public taxicab and was driven TO the
De Saulles home, where the tragedy
occurred al about 1890
Mrs. De Saulles collapsed in her cell
shortly after her interview with Mr..
Utsrhart ana Dr. Guy H. Cleghorn, the
lsil physician, was summoned. He ad-
~inistered rcstoratives which brought
the prisoner around and tonight she
ate the dinner which was brought to
her and was reported 10 have regained
the imperturbable calm which she dis
played during and Immediately after
the shooting.
She denied herself to all callers, and
included in those who were turned
away from the jail were two fashion
ably dressed Chilean men who did not
leave their names.
Maid Released on Bail
Susanna Monteau, Mrs. De Saulles's
maid, who accompanied her IN the taxi
cab 70 the De Saulles home and who, 1t
is expected, will be an important WIT
ness AZ the trial, was released late IN
the day in 81 900 bonds furnished by
Mrs. De Saulies's lawyer. She was held
a. material witness. She was spirited
away in an automobile said 20 have
been engaged by the attorneys, and
her whereabouts could not be learned.
The De Saulles home was picketed
during the day By guards, who kept the
curious thronR az a distance. Sheriff
ard Thornc, Of Hampstead, called and
got the family's version Of the tragedy.
30 others we're admitted 20 the estate.
Charles PettinUs gave an account OF
the shooting 70 newspaper men, and
as he was questioned consulted mem
bers Of the family before replying. His
story tallies IN almost every detail with
the account given the officers.
Tells Story Of Shooting
NrE Caroline Degeucr, the dead
mans sister; Major De Saulles, his
father, from South Bethlehem, Penn,
and Marshall Ward, a friend, were pres
e,t. he said Dinner was over and the
company we're IN the living room, in
tns front Of the house. Major De
saulles was lying on couch and John
De Ssulles was standing a. the foot Of
The couch, and the boy was playing on
the floor close % his feet. Mrs. DeRener
eft the room and went 20 the second
foor. AZ she started down again she
|, laW Mrs. De SaUlleB coming In the
/ front door She greeted her in friendly
fashion, but Mr. De Saulles went on
INTO The living room without giving
reply
IL Nrl De saulles entered her for
~nsr husband greeted her with:
Good evening, Blanca"
sns replied in almost the same man
rer, using her husband's short name OF
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