Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-08

having something to eat went to the
Deutsch Club '''
O. When you went to supper with CLARK
did he tell you what he had done with The
men? A. Yes told me he had left then, %
Deutsch's club. ~
@ After supper. where did you go? A.
To Deutsch's club.
@ with whom7 A. Mr. Clark.
Many there? A. oh, u was jammed
O. Did you see your New York men7 A.
Yes. e. "
O. Where were they? "A Sitting in the
parlor.
O. How long did you remain there? A
About two or three minutes
Q. Mr.. Deutsch there7 A. I dtdp,t .o.
him u'u" see
sullivan then told OF returning IN eths
STATION mouse and remaining there most Of
the night. In reply to questions. he ad.
mltted there must have been a riot call.
LIE ~. ne saw tne patrol wagon leave and
return several times within a short period
Al Mr.. Gordons request he picked out Lieu.
tenant Bennett In the courtroom but failed
70 Identify any other of the policemen de-
Q. When did you 20 back to the club
the club that night.
Q. On your second trip what did YOU
see as to your men? A. They were up
stairs.
Q. Were they all up there? A. Yes.
That is, I think Sol don't know them all,
Q. In one room? A. Yes
.. What were they doing? A. Drinking
beer and eating sandwiches think.
O. Was anybody guarding the staircase
ot the third floor when you got there? A.
There was lot Of men there, but none of
them stopped me-
Q. When you came down stairs where
did you go? A. Back TO the station house
n NsOr1 ait, A
/ don't know. Until or around or 10
o'clock, l think.
@. Did anything occur? A. There was
another riot call.
Q. What occurred then when the riot call
came in? A. / don't know. When they
came back they didn't have anybody.
Q. Who was in the patrol? A. A bunch
OF policemen.
Q. Were they all IN officers uniforms? !?
A. think Lieutenant Bennett went along.
am not sure.
Q. We're the others who were in the
wagon in uniform? A. Yes some of them
were, believe.
Q. Were all of them? A. Not all of them,
no.
Q. How long was It gone? A. I couldn't
say. Probably half an hour. Twenty
minutes,
Q. When it came back. who came back
with it? A. All the policemen except Lieu
! tenant Bennett.
Q. Any prisoners? A. not to my knowl-
| edge.
Sullivan said he did not remain much
| longer, as Clark returned and suggested that
| they go to the office. On the way he said,
| Clark vouchsafed no information as to the
| evenings events in the ward. Witness said
| he read In a paper that Carey followers
! had shot up a Deutsch club, but when he
| reached Maloneys office he learned the OPP
poste was the case. He said Maloney told
| i'm To IN he'd "A &
i morning, but he oversight and did not
reach the Fifth Ward station house until 10.
Q. That was your headquarters in the
ward? A. Yes.
O. When did you see Jimmie Clark that
| day? A. A riot call came In, and a couple
of fellows were brought in, one on one side
| and one on the other. and some police
sergeant. or police officer, said he had
| taken a gun off one of the fellows, 50
heard somebody yell, II want them held
without bail" didn't wait for anything
| further.
O. Did the wagon go out? A. Yes.
! O. Who was in II? A. I couldn't say
| I think Lieutenant Bennett and a lot OF
uniformed officers.
| O. How soon did it come back? A. II
! about fifteen minutes.
/ O who was in It? A. Why, they hat
| one of the New York boys in it and 10
| of policemen-no, when 1t came back there
| was nobody in 1t. / saw the machine "
| the front door and ! saw whole mot
walking In and l saw one prisoner brought
| from the other door.
O. Was he one of the New York men,
| A. | believe he was.
/ O. When did you see Jimmie Clark? A
7 went and telephoned to Maloney, and
| said This is a fine Ak you got me in down
| here" He said, What happened"
! said ''They got them boys In trouble; hold
| ing them without bail" He said, you tel
Jim Clark to get that mob out OF here as
| ouiclS as he can" I went back to the sta
| ton house and delivered Maloney's message
| O. Whom did you see when you got to the
| office? "A Maloney.
@. What did you say to Mr.. Maloney anc
! he to you? A. ] says, when | came in
let me see--he says. What is the trouble
down there?' I says Il don't know"
! SAYS There is some trouble. They arr
holding a couple of fellows without bail
O. You said? A. Yes. Just ther
| Simons, another employe, came in; he says
There is cop killed down in the Fittf
Ward" Maoney says, do you know any
| thing about it?" I says No" MaloneS
says 'You get out of here. You want t.
find out IL that is the truth" So he wen
| out came back he says. ut Is the truth.
Q. And what then? A. 1 nearly dropped
through the floor. 1 left the ofrce ant
went home.
| O. pause while you are droppinI
through, and ask you II you know any
thing with respect to custom or marks
Identification OF the Deutsch followers
Acwell, yes. The Deutsch followers wer
supposed TO wear badges.
Mr.. Connor 1 object TO that.
The Court. What did they wear?
The witness l don't know; l didn't Sc
them. didn't take notice to that.
The Court-Q. Were you present whe
any instructions were given? A. The In
struction got off Mr.. Maloney, Mr.. Malone
was to get up these white ribbons ana CIV
them to the mob from New York
Mr. Gordon-Q. Did you learn anythin
| from Mr. Maloney or any one respectn
any mark Of Identification Of the Deutsc
followers?
Mr. Connor. object to that question
Mr. Gordon. 1 press the question
Did you learn what the Deutsch follower
| were to wear?'
Mr.. Connor objected and the Court too
a hand in the questioning with the resu
that the witnesss was prevented from ar
swering for several minutes Finally
said:
searned from Mr.. Maloney there wsr
going TO be badges and soft hats WIN
, badge of Dentsch on them.
O. When you we're In the ward olu 20
see any OF those badges with a DeutSc
pieture on? A. ! think saw them once
the automobile with Deutsch. !.