Bisbee daily review., 1917-09-05
PASSAGE NOW
 ASSURED THE
 WAR bONDbI[L
Vote Wsll Be Taken In the Lower House On Bond and Certificate Measure Today. Moore Amendment Left Out.
.Rr Reyiew Leased WIrel

By Review Leased Wire) WASHINGTON, Sept 4.-Passago of the sII,53S. .945,46O war bond and certificate bill by the house in virtu- ally the form it was received from the committee seemed assured tonight after four hours of general debate on the measure. All parties are united in supporting the general features of the bill and a fight by Representative Moore of Pennsylvania for his propos- ed amendment to create war ex- penditures committee probably will not delay the vote beyond late tomor- row.
 i President Opposes Plan.
 President Wilson let it be known at the white house today that he was stiil opposed to any congressional war committee and administration leaders immediately laid plans to strike out the Moore proposal on point of or | der. MT. Moore then introduced 1t as separate bill. so if it is defeated as an amendment he still will have another chance to bring it up.
 Moore Defends Proposal.
 Mir. Moore devoted much of long speech on the bond measure to his amendment, declaring that congress was in the dark on much of the ad- ministration's financial transactions. By questioning he also drew from Rep resentative Fordney of Michigan, rank ing republican member of the ways and means committee a statement that he favored a war expenditures committee.
 Must Vote Bonds. Both Democratic Leader Kitchin and Representative Fordney present ed the bond bill to the house. urging that if the United States is to remain in the war, congress must vote the bonds as the necessary money cannot be raised by taxation.
 New Allied Loan.
 The question of making new S4,- 900, 100000 loan to the allies is the only real one before the house, MT. Kitchin insisted. Their cause and the cause of the United States are one, he added and the United States is obliged to make the loan.
 Kitchin Speaks. 1 MT. Kitchin was before the house for more than an hour replying much of the time to a running fire of good natured questions. No serious oppo- sition to the bill appeared. but he was asked to explain its many intricate points. One of his statements, in re- ply to a query, was that about so or 90 per cent Of the money already loaned the allies had been expended in this country and that he thought 75 per cent of the newly proposed lean also would be spent here. Qualified Endorsement. After indorsing the bill generally and declaring that he intended to sup port it if it could not be amended, MT. Fordney went on record as oppos- ed to both the proposed tax on bonds and the failure to put limit on their convertibility. Four per cent, NIT. Fordney said. is as high a rate of in terest as the government should be compelled to pay, and more probably will have to be paid on the bonds now being authorized if they are made convertible.
 Clark Favors Taxation. Speaker Clark interrupted MT. Ford ney to say that he favored paying more of the war debt by taxation than the bill contemplates.
 q understand you to say" the i speaker said. that we should carry on this war principally by the Fsu- ance of bonds instead of levying tax i es. That ends this way: The men who survive the fighting will come back and help pay this very war debt"
 That is true" replied MT. Ford ney.
 The speaker then added that he i thought the debt might be divided "ffty-fifty" between bonds and taxes, under such arrangement, he declared. he had no fear of depreciation of the bonds.