New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-01-30

have Harry Pollok pay it to Wenck in
marked bills.
81 told him to let us have the license
before Monday and that he would have
the money" Powers declared.
Then he said that he had received
word from Jimmie Johnson asking him
to do nothing until he had seen him.
''In parting" concluded Powers, 81
said to him: Fred, you arc treading
on dangerous ground. You have a wife
and children and a good salary. You
shouldn't let this sort of thing inter-
fere' And there we were," concluded
Powers ruefully. We had a lease and
were all dressed up, but couldn't play"
Wenck Last Witness
Wenck, rosy checked and phlegmatic
as ever, was the last witness called for
the afternoon. He started to tell his
story Of the alleged frame-up by men,
tioning telephone communication
which he had received from Governor
Whitman's secretary. William Orr. At
torney Fuchs Immediately objected to
Orr's name "being dragged into the
conversation" Then Wenck testified
that this first official information as
to the application for a license from
the Madison Square National Show
Company came through Attorney
Fuchs, who told him that an applica-
ton would be filed and that Johnny
White, Billy Long and Pat Powers were
behind il.
"'That's too bad,'" Wenck testified
that he retorted. "That's some of the
gang that killed boxing in the days Of
the Horton law. Moreover, it is not APP
parent to me how you can get
a lease on a building that is advertised
to be sold next month";
"'Thcn,' continued Wenck, Harry
Pollok telephoned and Sid that he
wanted TO see me. He said that he
was interested in the Garden with
Johnny White. ] met him in cafe on
Madison Avenue and he first very kind
| ly bought drink. Then he sent away
Tommy Murphy, who was with him,
and got down to business.
"'Now. Fred he said, they've taken
me in on this thing to get the license.
Heavy Toll from Friends"
"T am surprised said. You know
what they are"
"'Well, ] hate them as much as you
! do he said, but I'm in with them. You
| don't have to look at this license too
| CLOSELY. We Dctn Aiiehuo anu " oht
you to do this"
"'You extract pretty heavy toll
from your friends I said. How about
that 5000 you owe me?'
az haven't the money now he said
/ but Freddie Welsh has a fight on and
| will have some money soon. can
give you a check for hundred dated
ahead He then went to a side room
and wrote the check, which was dated
November 81.
"He continued to plead with me about
the license. You don't give all leases
to the Attorney General he said; why
not play dead on this one?
I'VE strolled to Twenty eighth
Street and Madison Avenue together
and on the way l argued with him.
said Harry. you haven't made much
success as fight promoter. Why not
stick to managing fighters, where you
have succeeded? You know you CAM
get along with White. When all ex.
penses are paid there will be nothing
"'They're bad bunch, admit it,
he replied. 1T won't last long, but il
will last long enough for me TO get
Welsh and Weinert on at the Garden
! will get guarantees for them, anc
will have something coming whether
they make anything or not After that
the club can run for Sweeney"
The members of the delegation which
Pollok is alleged to have called "a bac
bunch" looked accusingly at Pollok. He
scowled for a minute, then broke into 4
nervous laugh.
He refused to consider the PROPOSE
ton, Wenck concluded. and Pollok
acted coldly ever sfterward.
"Did you ask Pollok for $1,000 7
asked Attorney Fox.
81 certainly did not" said Wenck
THAT'S a lie. No, did not ask fol
81 900, because knew that ! would not
get it,"
There was ripple OF laughter al
this and Commissioner Lord ordered
the answer stricken out
Before we parted that day. con-
tinued Wenck, Pollok said: Look
out for that bunch. What's to prevent
us from getting together and framing
your"
Wenck closed with his version OF the
celebrated battle of the Grand Central
Station. Pollok sat tightly in chair
a few feet from Wenck as the Boxing
Commissioner delivered his testimony
The hearing was adjourned until ~