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u want two hours TO tell what Know,
he said. otherwise I'm done. don't
propose to sit here and hear the commt-
tee wrangle about the admissibility Of my
evidence" he said.
"Nou must have respect Tor the commit
tee interrupted Henry
Good heavens calculated Lawson. de-
risively.
You must have respect" snapped Henry.
"M right go ahead" Lawson retorted
Quiet was restored.
CHALLENGES FULL PROBE.
please don't take me 10 task again"
Lawson proceeded. and please let me be
earnest az earnest moments ! do have re-
spect FOR this committee and the chairman
aud ! say that honestly, despite the con-
tradiction aud denial OF your chairman.
Here iJ the opportunity Of lifetime for
run Investigation
Lawson then proceeded TO relate further
what happened In the Henry conference.
II told him TO get the stock record and
go through the whole list" Lawson con
tinued And I said to him that before you
get oue-thlrd Of the way down the list the
lid Will be blown OF. congress aud the
world will see who made these millions,
who were these SNUG hypocrites who used
their oniyial positions to make millions for
themselves"
when { went into Mr. lienry's office,
said TO him. 'Now we're to have hand.
shake and think out loud lie said. Yes.
~ said But there is one thing ! won't
think out loiid--that is the names OF leak
ers and the bcucdciaries OF the Leak And
then went on to explain 10 him why |
wouldn't"
Continuing LAWSON gave this account Of
what hc said Chairman Henry told him.
NAMES H.ENSTORFF
"Chairman Henry told me" said Law
son "'weNe Mr.. Barurh. We have It that !
he had four conferences with Secretary
Lansing We have all the conversation "i !
one interview aud part of another. ana we
have it that count von Bernstoru was so
mixed up in it that he made over $1,000 |
600
II said. Mir Chairman, you do not need
ANYTHING from me to start an investigation |
and he said. 4 want your opinion.
WALL. STREET COMBINE"
Continuing. Lawson said
"l said to Mr.. Henry that there was "a |
big conspiracy in Wall street tremendous:
SO big it gave YOU a thrill: a conspiracy |
that had beer going On for days weeks
months They had peddlcd Mexican aud !
war news until It was 50 common IN Wall |
street YOU didn't have to get things first |
hand
~ they didn't have any leak information /
they created situations to affect the mar
kct"
DO you think asked Henry according |
to Lawson. that Barney Baruch would he
mixed up in using his friendship and con-
ueCtious after having been so generous TO |
the Democratic party
II told him | had known BaruCh since |
he stepped into wall street and regarded !
him as the finest sort OF man
He asked me II ! thought Mr.. Lansing |
would be mixed up in this
~ told him | did not think Lansing |
would make postage stamp out Of it"
Lawson caused the audience to laugh !
when. In describing the Henry conference,
he said:
why. Mr.. Campbell you phoned twice
while I was in there and Mr.. Henry said !
That's Campbell. the ranking Republican, |
He'll break in, If YOU don't mind
II said. Let him in but Chairman Henry |
said 80, ! am chairman OF the committee
and it is my duty to hear these things
and decide
WHITE MENTIONED
Lawson told Of his conversation with |
Archibald :. White, Of New York the |
banker who. he said. told him PIIny Fisk. |
New York broker, completely dominated q |
Cabinet member.
"G said Archie. they tell me your friend |
Pliny Fisk. is engineering this leak stock
deal Maybe | didn't use those
exact words But / said | had heard that
Fisk & CO. were working in connection |
with Barney x Co. and that his friend |
Pliny Fisk, was doing the steering.
There followed a colloquy between Law
son and Representative Pou
Representative Pou--"When did Mr..
White say he talked with Mr. Fisk"
I.awson-"Late at night at the club, MIR. |
White said Mr. Fisk was very jolly
IN HIS CUPS"
REPRESENTATIVE Pou-"In his cups ana
boasting about his great power?"
I.awson--'Yes, you might say that"
Lawson said John r. Rathom, OF the
Providence Journal, was his authority for
Paul NJ. Warburg in connection |
with the leak. Mr., Rathom was now en- |
route to Washington to testify.
II said The story is that Pliny Is work
ing with Secretary McAdoo and that there
is a terrific affair going on.
"Mr White said, You asked Just in /
time. I talked with Pliny last night
think he said, at the club
"Fisis got on the subject, he said, and |
tried to show he controlled McAdoo. He |
even insisted White said, 'on my going |
to the phone with him to see him call
McAdoo out of bed and tell him to come
to New York
White said he told Fisk. NO Pliny I |
don't want TO have any part In that.
Il said 10 White. Didn't you 90 to the
phone then?
No, he answered
After quoting Hypothetical converse lions
between Cabinet officer aud SIR. Baruch |
that is conversations that may have in
Mr Lawson said;
II told your chairman that | thought AIr. |
Lansing and Mr. Baruch were two men we /
can bank on absolutely; whether they had /
been used or not l did not know"
Mr. Lawson said at the outset OF his /
conference with Mr., Henry he had an agree |
ment that he would not call the names |
OF the principals or benehciarles OF the |
leak, Chairman Henry, he said, agreed that |
Lawson need not give information he had |
in confidence at that time, nor would he |
expect him TO own up il he We're a leak |
II wasn't a principal and never was" |
said Lawson. but I told the chairman he |
needn't expect any principal TO come down |
and show his hand, lie viii |
have TO 20 after them"
Representative Patten Of New York here |
took charge Of the examination OF Lawson.
Did Mr. Henry mention any one else. |
asked Patton, after he enumerated any OF |
the names brought into the leak yester- |
day?"
yes Won Bernstorh," promptly answered
Lawson.
Mr. Henry volunteered that?" asked
Patton.