New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-01-30
FISK AND WHITE
DISPUTE LAWSON
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Ambassador. | was introduced TO him
some years ago in Washington"
Asked who else he knew in splo-
matte circles. Mr.. White answered that
he was acquainted with Mr.. Naon, the
Argentine Ambassador, but that he
knew no others connected with the
diplomatic corps in Washington.
Asked whether he had ever been en-
tertained by or had entertained Count
Won Bernstorff, Mr.. White answered
that he had enjoyed both privileges.
He then said:
Count Won Bernstorf has been a
friend OF mine. with whom have never
had any business relations, for num-
Der of years"
He then answered further questions
Of Mr.. Whipple, who seemed very eager
to get all the details concerning the
friendship of the witness for the Ger
man Ambassador White said he had
met the ambassador many times at the
Ritz Carlton Hotel and at the White
home.
The banker also recalled having met
the ambassador i'm New York on the
day Countess Won Bernstorf arrived
from Euio pe.
"Then the occasions of your seeing
Count Won Bernstorff in New York were
limited to the Ritz and the White
home?" asked Mr.. Whipple.
Entirely"
"Did you ever introduce any person
to Count Won Bernstorf at the Ritz
Carlton ?"
81 don't remember" said the witness.
"Please try and refresh your memory,
Mr. White, for | am sure the committee
is DESTROYS Of knowing this"
81 do not recall any particular oc-
casion or person"
Insists He Did Not
Counsel Whipple then pressed the
witness more along this line and asked
Mr.. White whether he did not have
some recollection of introducing so dis
tinguished a guest as Count Won Bern
storf to any person.
Mr.. White answered by saying he
would have remembered III 1t had any
significance.
Prior TO this Mr. White said that if
Mr.. Whipple would furnish the names
of any persons TO whom he had intro
duced the ambassador he would readily
recall the event.
Mr. White said he had not intro
duced but recalled that George Nc
Aneny had met the German Ambassador
at the Ritz-Carlton.
Did you ever arrange for a meet
ing between Count Won Bernstorf and
Mr.. Lawson at the Ritz-Carlton ," At
torney Whipple then asked.
mo. I did not arrange any such
meeting" was the quick answer. 81 re-
member a Mr.. insolvency asking me to
arrange for such meeting, and ] told
him to make his own arrangements"
This conversation with "McSweeney"
took place about two years ago, White
said
Cannot you tell US" persisted Mr.
Whipple, about this meeting?"
81 know Of no meeting between the
count and Mr.. Lawson. ! cannot recall
either one of them discussing with or
telling me of such meeting"
Business Friend of Sabn
"Do you know Mr.. Charles Sabin p
he was asked.
The witness said he did know the
president Of the Guaranty Trust Com
pany and had seen him a month OF
two ago. though he had no recollection
Of any conversation with him this las;
fall
"Your relations with him were of a
business nature entirely"
Eyes, sir"
Did you ever introduce Mr.. Sabin
to any member Of the diplomatic
corps?1
ooh, no, sir"
He had read, however, OF Mr.. Sa.
hints reuarka concorninU Tho nroha.
bilities of peace, made on October 6
and may have talked them over with
Lawson.
did you ever mention your acquaint.
ance with Count Won Bernstorff in con.
versation with Mr.. Lawson ?"
81 don't remember having done so
sir"
do you positively remember that
you never made a remark to Mr.. Law
son from which he might infer that
you knew Count Won Bernstorf ?"
81 can't testify whether did or not. D
But he did talk with Lawson re-
Gently about the leak inquiry, first in
Washington, when the two met there
in the railroad station preparatory 10
taking the night train for New York
and then again the next morning, when
the two came together again on leav.
ing the train.
Lawson Talked EItravagautly
"He talked volumes. millions and
billions and explosions generally" was
the way Mr.. White phrased il.
Couldn't you give just pin-wheel
out OF it?" asked MIR. Whipple.
But il appeared that nothing had