Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1917-11-24

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for the guidance of the Governor, and
! with such assistance as he or you or
anybody might give, and look over ahat
list carefully. and if you find Q name
which is upon the petition and which
we claim is not upon the check list.
if you find it upon the check list why
of course you are entitled to have that
credit. These lists we furnish are not
| evidence. They are simply guidance,
and save going over the1en lists
every time. For instance. here is the
list Of the petitions. with a hundred
names on them. We furnish a list of
! 10 names from Lewiston which we
claim do not appear upon the voting
list. but do appear upon that petition.
That list is used as a guide, and if the
proponents or petitioners find that one
| or Two names out Of that 10 do appear
| why Of course they should be credited
| Ihat IS the whole story, and it seems
! 10 me that is the easiest and simplest
way 70 get at it, instead of having the
thing all threshed out verbally here.
! Dunbar That is perfectly agreeable
I TO me. Your Excellency. and I wish II
state at this time that that has been
my idea Of proceedings from The be-
ginning: that from the decision of the
Court it was the duty of Your Honor
to take these petitions and compare them
with certified check lists from different
towns and If any signatures were found,
elthe" through YOUR own efforts or with
what aid could he furnished you. that
appear upon the petitions and do not
| appear upon the check lists of course
those names should be stricken out. That
has been my idea from the beginning
ard that Is the reason why 50 strenu-
ously objected. 50 far as | was con
cerned, to the town clerks end city
clerks tesufying in these proceedings and
attempting-that is all YOU could use
the reference for--to amend their GER
tifcates, which ! claim they had no
right 70 do under the ruling Of the Court.
The Governor: You understand. Mr.
Dunbar, in all these cases the testimony
of the town clerks has been from lists
prepared which they upon examination
had discovered TO he upon petitions but
not upon voting lists of cities and towns
In every such case that evidence has
been admitted merely for guidance IN
the final examination on my part, ana
in no instance as final evidence of the
fact.
Dunbar: I understand these lists arc
going to be presented to YOU in this case
for you to compare and see If you can
find those same names upon the vot-
ing lists. When you do that / would
like 10 have the right to have summoned
at the States expense one or two prom
inent persons from each locality where
the names are questioned; in French To-
calites 4 Frenchman, and in American To-
calities an American, to see If they are
able to determine some of the sigma
lures the way they are written | know
. Your Fxcellency i'll do everything IN
YOUR power to ge& the correct names. as
7 shall do. but both Of us might be mis-
led and | would like to have the priv
Ieee as they have now in the police
case.
The Governor: The same privilege &C
corded in tie police case will be, or
course. accorded to you. ] will say that
the petitions have been open for inspec-
ton TO any interested person or any cit
izen under proper restrictions and M
der the guidance Of the secretary or
state They have been in his custod"
j ever since they have been fled
Dunbar: do not deny that
The Governor: And we arc very glad
to Offer YOU any facilities now withl''
2 reasonable time, to examine the pc
titions ana make any further suSeeS-
lions for my guidance as to names thSl
Won find or as to names which have heeh
suggested AS not appearing on any VOL
ing lit or as To names which are SINH
lar in any way to names that are j"
question.
Dunbar. VIII YOU extend me the cour-
tesy of having men come here that |
might need?
The Governor. l will take that under
Amusement the privilege has been &C
corded u far On the theory that any
citizen has the right to come here. and
at the expense Of the petitioner if he IS
interested
Crockett. NOW | would like to have
made q part of the case these various
lists which have been made out by the
town clerks and CITY clerks containing
a list Of those names which do not an
pear upon the petition. and if Brother
Dunbar agrees | will offer them without
having each one of them separately den-
titled.
Dunbar: They are all true attested
copies"
Crockett. OH. no these arc Lists mad.
eut by the city clerks which they under
stand arc not names upon the check list
] can have each one Identified if you wanr
mo ~ Bull il would not do any gooc.
There are the names and they are to be
gone over.
4 Lists relating 70 the Sea and shore
Fisheries case produce and marked En-
htbts Nos. 1H. lS5. tSf. 1854 to 1S6N, in
elusive. 1Ss. 1S9 100. 1911, 1872. 1924 to 1920,
Inclusive 49, 1874 to 1896. inclusive. 1874
1a4A u 1o4IT. inclusive 195. 1876 and IT,.
crockett: These exhibits are offered,
also any other lists made by or undec
the direction Of town clerks which have
not hecnt identified. but which have been
testified to in the other cases.
These are simply offered as guides 10
the Governor In ascertanine whether the
names which appear upon the petitions
actually appear upon the voting lists