The Washington times., 1917-09-26

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the French, especially, were not like
the French OF 20, but that officers, in
stead OF being mobiles, came from no
one knew where. He then referred to
the efforts to starve out Germany and
keep out milk from that nation. and de-
clared, before he would allow his fam
lily and grandchildren to starve, that
I he would blow up Windsor Castle and
the whole royal family OF England.
We then had long discussion IN de-
tail OF the whole submarine question.
We also discussed the position
taken by the Germcn government in
one of the Frye notes, in which the
German law expert had taken the po-
sition that a cargo OF food destined
for an armed enemy port was pre-
summed to be for the armies of the
enemy and, therefore, contraband.
Discussing the submarine question,
the Emperor and chancellor spoke Of
the warning given in the Lusitania
casa Finally said: "If the chancel-
lor warns me not to 90 out on the
Wilheinplatz, where have a perfect
right to- 60, the fact that he gave the
warning does not justify him in kill
Ing me II disregard his warning and
90 where / have a right to CO." The
conversation then became more gen.
eral; we finally left the garden and
went into the chateau, where the
Emperor's aids and guests were i'm
patiently waiting for lunch.
Amazingly Discussed.
sat between the Emperor and the
Prince OF Pless. Conversation was
for most OF the time general, and
subjects such as the suffragettes and
the peace expedition OF Henry Ford
were Amazingly discussed.
After lunch / again had q long talk
with the Emperor. but OF a more gen.
eral nature than the conversation in
the garden.
That night, about II o'clock, after
again dining with the chancellor, we
left Charleville in the same special
salon car, arriving at Berlin about 4
p. m. the next day, where at the sta
ton, were q crowd OF German and
American Newspaper correspondents,
all anxious to know what had hap
pened.
At this last dinner at the chan
cellor's he'took me of in a corner
and said. AS I understand It, what
America wants is cruiser warfare on
the part OF submarines" Ana I said,
Eyes. that IL it exactly. They may
exercise the right OF visit and search,
must not torpedo or sink vessels with
out warning. and must not sink any
vessels unless the passengers and
crew are put in a place of safety"
On the morning of the Sd OF Nav
I heard that the German note had
been drafted. but that it would con-
tain 4 clause to the effect that, while
the German submarines would not go
beyond cruiser warfare. nevertheless
this rule would not apply to armed
merchantmen.
As such a proposition as this would,
OF course, only bring up the subject
again. / Immediately ordered my au-
tomoSile and called on the Spanish
ambassador, stating to him what 1
had heard about the contents OF the
note: that this would mean Without a
doubt a break with America. and, as
had been instructed to hand the en-
bassy over to him. that had come to
tell him of that fact
Contained No Exception.
! gave the same infor. alton to
other colleagues, OF course, hoping
that what I said would directly or in
directly reach the ears of the German
foreign office. Whether It did / do
not know. but the Sussex note
when received did not contain any
exception with reference to armed
merchantmen.
With the receipt of the Sussex note
and the Presidents answer thereto,
which declined assent to the claim OF
Germany to define its attitude toward
our rights, in accordance with what
we might do in regard to the enforce
-
submarine question seemed at least
for the moment settled. /. however.
Immediately warned the department
that 1 believed that the rulers OF Ger
many would at some future dato.
forced by public opinion and by the
Conservative and Won Tirpitz parties,
take up ruthless submarine war
again, possibly in the autumn, but at
any rate about February or March.
1917.
In my last conversation with the
chancellor before leaving the great
general headquarters, and when he
referred to the cruiser warfare Of
the submarines. he also said, 81 hope
now, II We settle this matter, that
your President will be great enough
to take up the question of peace"
1t was as a result of limitations
from government circles after my re-
turn to Berlin that gave an inter
view to a representative OF a Munich
newspaper. expressing my faith in
the coming of pence-although 1 was
careful to say that it might be a
matter of months or even years.
Thereafter on many occasions the
chancellor impressed upon me the
fact that America must do something
toward arranging a peace, and, IL
nothing was done to this end, that
undoubtedly public opinion in Ger
mny would force the resumption OF
ruthless submarine war.
In September of 1910. I having men,
toned that Mrs. Gerard was going