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The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20

The showgrounds located at Smiths
 park Fifth avenue, will be busy place
 today. The John Robinson Ten Big
 Shows concerning which great deal of
 preliminary interest has been aroused,
 will reach the city about 4 a. m. and dur
 ing the morning the four train loads o1
 equipment will be unloaded the baggage
 wagons, the horses, the elephants the
 camels and other led and caged animals, and all the circus celebrities and inter-
 esting cosmopolitan peoples associated with this typical American exhibition, will | be established on the lot and preparations l rapidly made for entertaining the city's amusement loving crowds.
 Of course there will be great numbers | of persons on hand at the railroad yards
 to see the ears unloaded and also at the grounds to watch the erection of the
 Magic City of Robinsonville. It is quite
 number of years since the Robinsons
 have exhibited here and without enter | ing into the merits or demerits of other circuses that have been paying almost yearly visits here it can be truthfullS
 stated that the people of Birminghan, and particularly the young generation | l vent of some other than the usual tent show attractions which have become so l familiar, for no matter how good the | other concerns may be, the fact remains that they are much the same year after year, and an entire change of programme
 will accordingly be relshed.
 l The circus parade will make it's start as near 10 o'clock this morning as condi-
 tions will permit. The pageant stretches 1 threa miles in lpnoth and its beal1tV
 promise is given, will surpass the expec-
 tations of the young and old. Three
 herds of elephants will tread the route and of camels, zebras, zebus, sacred cat 1 tie, yaks and other led animals there l will be legion. Dozens of open cages will l disclose their jungle inmates and train CTS More than 800 equines, ranging from | the powerful plumed draft and Per cherons and Clydesdales, thoroughbred racers and ring horses to the sturdy lit tie Shetland ponies, ever dear to the hearts of the children, will display them selves
 The allegorical and tableaux floats and other vehicular appurtenances of the pa rade are new in construction and concep- ton and as ornately beautiful as the best efforts of distinguished designers, scup- tors and decorators can yield. Five bands will give ceaseless brass harmony and the nonsense of clowns will pervade the long line.
 The doors to the big show will be opened at 1 and D. m., which allows one hour for the inspection of the menagerie. Preceding the performance by 30 minutes a grand opera concert will be given by the combined circus bands of 60 soloists, At night the tents and grounds are ilum-
 mated by a 3000,0O0 candle power light
 plant carried with the circus.
 A downtown ticket office will be opened at Hagan & Dunlaps drug store at 9
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20

The Fairview Womens Christian Tempera9ee union will meet at the res idence of Mrs. D. H, Griffith, 3O26 Ensley avenue. at 2:SO o'clock this afternoon. An interesting programme has been arranged for the occasion
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
CIRCUS AT A GLANCE

Showgrounds-Smith's Fifth
  a Eighteenth Powell avenue about 10 o'clock Fifth
  to Nineteenth Fifth to showgronds. all special circus resenaive at IIagan x Dunlaps drug store
   comfortably 10000 rings twoe hippodrome
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
VETERANS MEET TO
 PLAN FOR REUNION

On account of the business of more than ordinary importance that will come before Camp Hardee at the it's meeting this aft ernoon at Cable hall at 2:30 o'clock. every member is urged to be present. Final information must be supplied the committee in charge of the transportation and railroad rates to the reunion to be held in June. Every mem Der who will be dependent on the funds in hand for such necessary aid must be present and give proper notice and make application.
 All veterans are cordially invited The United Daughters of Confectionery chap ters especially are urged to attend this meeting, just preceding Memorial Day, April %. Sons of Veterans and the pub lie generally are always welcome.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
APPEAL FOR AID
 IN GETTING SIGNS
 ALL OVER COUNTY

Chairman P. M. Smith of the public ity committee named by the executive committee of the food preparedness. committee, has issued an appeal to tho citizens of Birmingham for the loar of their automobiles for few hour: in order to facilitate the work of tack ing up the food preparedness cards bearing the slogans adopted by the committee to give publicity to the campaign. The committees appeal fol lows:
 To the Public:
 We have secured the Boy Scouts
 of Birmingham to assist our con-
 mittee in tacking card slogans on trees and fences on every road
 leading out of Birming ham, going
 as far as the Jefferson county line.
 These boys will be dropped every two miles with placards, hammer and tacks. and they will cover the ground up to the next twO-miIe stop, being picked up by the car on the return trip and brought back to town. We will need sev- eraI ears to do this work and our committee appeals to local citi- zens to loan us their cars from 8 o'clock on in the afternoons of Friday, Monday and Tuesday. and long on Saturday as possible. l This will enable us to get the | work done in two or three days. | if cars offered immediately. | The committee will call on all cit | izens with cars beginning today ! and all who can assist will be | doing their part in the great cam 1 paign now being waged for in | creasing the production of food i crops by IOaning a car for few hours. F. M. SMITH, 1 Chairman Publicity Committee l Community Club.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20

The Progressive Study club will meet at the home of Mrs. J. D. Mat lock on Pike avenue this afternoon,
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
CLARA KIMBALL YOUNG AT HE TRIANON

"The Price She Paid" with Clara Kim ball Young. is switched over to the Tri- anon today, having had its premiere at the Rialto earlier in the week.
 This pohtoplay, directed by Charles Giblyu. promises to be the most popular offering this favorite screen star has yet given to the public, as the story is one which will enlist the sympathies of every one, for the reason that the problem of Mildred Cover. the leading character touches the lives of thousands of wom- en. Miss Young never has had a part which afforded greater opportunity for the display of her remarkable beauty.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
Larceny Charged

Clay Williams, negro, was arrested early yesterday morning by Special Off, ficer Asa B. Smith on charge of grand larceny. It is alleged by Officer Smith that Williams had in his possession a quantity of stolen brass belonging to the Birmingham Belt Railroad company. The prisoner was transferred to the county jail yesterday afternoon.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
IN THE EPICTURESANDOUIr

dous sensation throughout the moving picture world.
 Although Patris is heralded and re- garded as the greatest preparedness play now showing, 1t is rumored that the gov ernment has ordered the discontinuance of this and other preparedness pictures.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
Features for today:

Features for today:
 Trianon-Clara Kimball Young in "The Price She Paid"
 Rialto-May Allison and Harold Lock wood in The Hidden Children"
 Colonial-Gaby Deslys in Her Tri- umph."
 strand-House Peters and Louis Huff In "The Lonesome Chap"
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
NEWS OF ENSLEY

The revival being held at the First by pr. F. D. King as the evangelist and Prof. E. l. Wolslagel as the di- rector of music thus far has broken all previous records in attendance The revival started last Sunday morning and at every service the church has been crowded
 A special meeting for the women of this community was held at the church yesterday and was largely at tended. Another special meeting for the women will be held tomorrow. A meeting for the young people will be held at the church at o'clock Sunday afternoon.
 The Progressive Study club will meet at the home of Mrs J. D. Mat lock on Pike avenue this afternoon.
 The Fairview Women's Christian Temperance union will meet at the res idence of Mrs. D. H. Griffith, 3O26 Ensley avenue. at 2:SO o'clock this afternoon. An interesting programme has been arranged for the occasion
 The Purity temple No 3, Pythian Sisters, will meet in the Pythian hall at ? o'clock this afternoon All mem bers of the temple are urged to be present. as some important business will come up before the meeting.
 
 Mudd, Willard J. Wheeler, w. S. Stall ings and Frank Willis Barnett.
 The Pastors Union: Dr. George R. Stuart, Dr. Preston Blake, Dr. T. G. Wells, Dr. L. F. Parrish, Dr. John S. Foster Dr. A. s. Johnson, pr. Tipton Wood, Dr. A. J. Dickinson, Dr. H. H. Hibbs, pr. L. E. Brubaker
 The Rotary Club: J. w. Donnelly, Frank Rushton, Dan Dimmick Joe Rosenberger w. J. Rushton, pr. J. NJ. Shelburn, Carl Milan, W. C. Adams F. D. Glass, s. F. Lazarus
 Business Mems League: James Patter- son, w. J. Adams Sol Caheen, M V. Joseph, Louis Pizitz, B. B. Burton, George A. Blinn, Herman Saks, Philip Oster, Col man Blach
 Chamber of Commerce: A. NJ Taylor E. J. Rowe, J. G. Scott. C. T. Sibley Joe Slaughter, A. L. Smith, w. H. Stock ham, E. O. Stafford, Herbert E. Steiner w. D. Stead, Blanks Everett.
 Board of Trade: Sol Caheen, Abe Kaufman, H. J. Porter. William H Dewey Joe Saks, N Rose. Louis Pig itz John Yeatman, Robert w. Ewing, Colman Blaeh.
 General Committees: Hugh Latimei E, H. Andrews, H. J. Baum. F. w Dixon, C. s. Bissell, Sam M Blake William l.. Brown, Borden Burr, A. w Carey, A. c. Crowder The Birmingham Civic league: C. w. Rogers, A. C. Jenkins. R B. Broyles. pr. H. c. Krelly, J. R. Wayne, w B. Phillips, Ted Browne1l, Julius Jaffee. E. L. Moore. w. S Motion. R. s. Nun ger, Louis Pizitz.
 Temple Emanu- El; M H. Sterne, Chester Sandman. Sidney Lazarus. Mare Linx, Max Roger. Morris K. Erd- reich, pr Carl Fox, Sidney Hart. A $. Loventhal V. Hugo Marx
 Real Estate exchange: Robert Jem- ison, Jr., Maurice Henderson, Robert P. McDavid, Jr, J. L. Yancey, J. B. Gibson, Russell Booth, John NJ. Cart wright, Mason billiard Frank E Fowlkes. Henry Hidden.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20

o clock this morning, where admission tickets and reserved seats may be pro- cured at the same prices as charged on the shoWgrounds.
The Birmingham age-herald., 1917-04-20
MRS. VERNON CASTLE IN "P ATRIA"

The Rialto offers also today Mrs. Yer non Castle in the stirring serial, Pa tria," which is causing such a tremen-
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21

Charles S. Mellen, former president
of the New York, New Haven and
Hartford railroad, and one of the
most prominent railroad men of
was reported as seriously i'll,
pneumonia being threatened. Mr.. MSJ-
len retired as president of the rail.
road in 1913, and figured largely in the
governments investigation of the
New Hayen's financial affairs. Mr. Mel.
len was born in Lowell, Mass, in 1851.
and began his railroad career as a
clerk in the cashiers office of the
Northern New Hampshire railroad. He
served other roads in various capaci.
ties before becoming second vice presi.
dent of the New Haven in 1892. From
1896 to 1908 he was president of the
Northern Pacific and in the latter year
became president of the New Haven.
He was succeeded by Howard Elliott,
the present head of the road.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
Nearly 95 Per Cent.

Austin, Tex, Jan. 19.-Income from
operation of the Texas railroads for
the fiscal year enning June 30, 1916
aggregating $26,77S,63O which is an in.
crease of $6,S27723 or 24.77 per cent.
over the previous fiscal year, accord
ing to the annual report OF the rail
road commissioner.
For this same period, the gross
earnings of the Texas lines reached
$I13,64lO13, which is an increase of
$6,23O,OO2 or $50 per cent Operating
expenses for the fiscal year aggrega.
ted $S6,S6S.362, increase of S9O2,276
or LOS per cent
Total freight and revenue was
S7S,6lS,O9S. increase of S5,2l6225, or
I'll per cent. and total passenger
revenue, s3O,525,O7i, increase of s7l7,.
$50 or 2.95 per cent.
The total mileage of Texas railroads
is 15,635.O9, an increase of only 1886
miles over the previous year.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21

Otto II. Kahn, the prominent bank
er, member of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., New
York who has been a resident of New
York twenty-three years, has filed APP
plication in the county court at Nor
ristown, n. j., his legal residence, to
become a citizen of the United States.
Mr.. Kahn was born at Mannheim,
Germany and after serving in the
army and receiving a banking educa.
tion in his fathers business house,
went to London and became conuected
with the Deutsche bank. He became a
British subject. At one time he was
offered the candidacy for parliament
from the Gorton division of Ian
cashire. Mr.. Kahn figured prominent
ly in the news recently in the peace
note leak" inquiry, when II was as.
serted that he, with others, profited by
advance news of the presidents peace
move. He denied the assertion.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
Seven Sands at Healdton?

"The new sand on the Pugh farm
in the southeast extension reminds
me- said ]. w. Harreld yesterday, "of
a statement made to me some months
ago by one Of the best geologists that
ever came to this country. This man
told me that IIealdton had seven dif.
ferent sands and how he knew do
not understand. but It looks nov like
he knew what he was talking about.
You cannot imagine just what that
will mean" continued Judge Harreld
There will be active drilling opera
tions there for years to come. and
Healdton will give up more oil TO
commerce than any other similar area
In the world. People are Just now be.
ginning to wake up to the unlimited
possibilities Of the oil wealth about
Healdton."
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
MESSAGES HAVE GONE THROUGH
Ell PAso TO GENERAL PERISH.
ING.
EMPTY MOTOR TRUCKS
Four Empty Motor Truck Trains Of
Thirty Trucks Each Have Been Sent
to Pershing, Presumably to Be Used
in Bringing Troops Back.

FL Paso, Tex, Jan. 2O.-It was re.
liably reported today that a message
has gone through here to General
Pershmg in Mexico, asking when he
will be ready to start the withdrawal
For the past few days it has been
predicted in army circles here and
other points along the border that the
American punitive expedition will
soon start its long march across the
deserts of northern Chihuahua toward
Columbus, N. NJ. 1t is unofhcially re-
ported that actual withdrawal opera
tions are already under way at I'll
Vale, the southern outpost Of the
Pershing expedition, and at San Joa-
chin between El Vale and Pershing's
headquarters at Colonia Dublan. Sup
plies, which have heretofore been sent
into that district over the Mexican
Northwestern from Juarez are now
being held at the border.
Four empty truck trains, consisting
Of thirty trucks each, have been dis.
patched from Columbus within the
last twenty-four hours.
IT. is announced that Pershing's
troops will be used at different points
along the border to relieve national
guardsmen, who will be returned to
their home states.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
ALL HoNoRS A GRATEFUL MA
TIoN COULD BESToW ACCOM-.
PANIED CEREMONIES.
BURIED At ARLINGTON
Remains of Dewey Were Inferred Near
Where Rest Schley and Sampson,
Other Naval Heroes - Wilson and
Cabinet Attend.

Washington, Jan. 2O-Admiral Dew
ey's remains were laid to rest in Ar
lington cemetery today, not far from
the wooded slopes where rest Schley
and Sampson.
All honors which a grateful nation
could bestow accompanied the cere.
mony
President Wilson, cabinet members.
members of the supreme court, diplo-
matte corps, senators, congressman
and other notabes attended.
Private services we're held in the
nome and were attended by President
Wilson and Secretary Daniels. The
capitol services followed the cere-
monies at the home.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
THREE AMERICAN AMONG THE
CREW OF sR s STEAMER
CAPTURED 2 : tMANs.
FARpI<,5 SJPPLYER
The Portuguese Steamer Faro Said TO
Have Acted as Supply Ship for the
Raider - Warships Of Entente Al.
lies Continue Search.

New York, Jan. 90 Three Ameri-
cans were in the crew of the British
steamer Yarowdale, which was cap
tured by the German raider and taken
into a German port by the prize crew.
With it almost certain that the Brit.
ish steamer st. Theodore was cap.
nred by the German raider and con.
verted INTO another commerce destroy
ing ship, the entente Gordon in the
Atlantic now has a double task to per-
form.
In marine circles it is believed that
the Portuguese steamer Faro has been
supplying the raider 1t formerly was
a German vessel
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
WILL RESUME
LEAK K".PR0BE:
ON TUESDAY
SHERMAN WHlPPLE, BOSTON AT.
ToRNEY, WAS YESTERDAY RE.
TANNED BY RULES COMMITTEE
AS COUNSEL.

Washington, Jan. 20.-The house
rules committee today retained Sher.
man l.. Whipple, Of Boston, as leak"
inquiry counsel, and announced that
a resumption Of the hearings will be
had in the New York customs house
Tuesday.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
DRASTIC RULES
To RELIEVE THE
CAR SHORTAGE
INTERSTATE COMMISSION SAYS
COAL CARS MUST BE RETURN.
ED TO ORIGINAL OWNERS AS
FAST AS UNLoADED.

Washington. Jan. 20.-Drastic reg.
ulations to relieve the coal car short
age and help lower the higher cost OF
coal prices were prescribed by the in
terstate commerce commission today.
Coal cars must be returned to their
original owners as fast as unloaded.
and railroads are given ten days in
which to devise methods for relieving
the shortage in other types of cars.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
NEWTON sPRADLlNe ACQUITTED
Former Revenue eau9er Acquitted in
Federal Court.

Fort Smith, Ark, Jan. %. Newton
c. Spradling, former internal revenue
gauger, was acquitted i'm the federal
court here today OF alleged conspiracy
In the so-callod moonshine conspiracy.
by which the government claimed It
lost huge sums OF money.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21

Francisco, and went into commission
in 1906. She is a partially armored
cruiser having a four.inch belt amid.
ships. besides her protective deck. She
carries fourteen six.inch rapid fire
guns and made twenty-five knots speed
on trials. Ever since her commission
she has been attached TO the Pacific
fleet and has recently been used as
tender for submarines. In that capacl.
ty she had a crew Of only 500 instead
Of her normal complement Of 727 men.
Six other vessels have gone ashore
near Eureka, Cal, In the last few years
and not one OF them has been saved
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21

The stranded cruiser Milwaukee,
whose crew was taken off, was washed
further toward shore near Eureka, Cal.
As the hull continued to fill with
water hope of salvaging the vessel
faded Navy salyagers have abandon.
cd eNorts to save the submarine H.3
which the Milwaukee was trying to
pull off the beach when the cruiser
was swept ashore. The factors re.
sponsble for the beaching of the Mil.
waukce were a dense fog, strong cur.
rent and the drag Of the heavy line
attached to the H.3. The Milwaukee
was built at the Union Iron Works, San
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
DEFENDANT IN TEARS
At Mention Of Wife's Name, SPANIEL
Sobbed Aloud.

san Angelo. Tex, Jam 2O.-Harry
SPANIEL sobbed aloud today when his
wife's name was brought INTO his tyal
for killing her and Colonel Butler.
Mrs. w. II. Harrison of Alpine said
shots from an automobile rang out in
front Of her home, where she was
standing on porch. She heard a
woman scream. Don't Harry" and
later saw Mrs. Spannelrs body in the
car.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
Texas Legislature Idle.

Austin, Tex, Jan. 2O.--With both
houses Of the legislature adjourned
until Monday only the committees
were at work today The house edu.
cation committee reported favorably
the Fly bill, approprlating two million
dollars for rural schools.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
FORTY BODIES
Of VICTIMS
RECOVERED
ONE HUNDRED OTHERS REPORT.
ED SERIOUSLY INJURED AS RE.
suit OF EXPLOSION IN MUM.
TioNs FACTORY NEAR LONDON.

London, Jan. 2O.-Forty bodies have
been recovered and one hundred other
persons are reported seriously injured
following the explosion which entirely
destroyed "a munitions factory near
London last night.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
Knights Of Pythlas Install Officers

Thursday at the regular meeting
Of Myrtle lodge No. lO7 knights Of
Pythias the following officers were in.
stalled for the current semi.annual
term:
II. G. Davis, c. c.; w. r. Presnell.
" c.; Ray Hamilton. Prelate; o. A.
Purcell, NJ. W; o. w. Wright, NJ. A.:
Frank Berryhill. NJ. F.; Avis Cathey.
NJ. f.; Price South, X of r. & s.; S.
w. Webb, |. c.; +. c. McCann, o. c.:
Frank Berryhill, Jake Bodovltz, j. II.
Edwards, Trustees.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
Opera House Destroyed.

Seattle, Wash, Jan 2O.-Assistant
Fire Chief Gillian was killed, one man
Is missing and eight persons were in.
jured in a fire which burned the opera
house here today.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21

Mr.. Z. Reynolds vive, president and
general manager Of the Mackey tele.
graph and cable company whose head.
quarters are in New York city has
been in the city for few days in.
specting the local office. Mr.. Rey.
nolds is deeply impressed with Ard.
more and gratified at the business the
local office is doing here.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
KANSAS BANK ROBBED.
Three Thousand Dollars Taken From
State Bank at Kanapolls.

Kanapolis, Kan. Jan. Robbers
today stole three thousand dollars
from the Exchange State bank here.
Mrs James Cowie, mother of the as.
sisiant cashier helped chase them.
and was wounded In the hand.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
ToFTWooo WAS sUBMARlNEo.

British Ship Which Left New York
Christmas, is Victim.
New York Jan. 2O-The British
steamship Toftwood, which left here
Christmas with a s75O,OOO cargo, has
been summarized, 1t was reported to.
day.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
THREE. BURNED
|NPORTLAND
HOTEL FIRE
ANOTHER FIRE IN A SEATTLE
THEATRE COST LIFE OF ASSIST.
ANT FIRE CHIEF - ONE MAN
MISSING.

Portland Ore, Jan. 2O.-Three men
were burned to death today in fire
that gutted a hotel in the lower part
of the city
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
MCNAMARA IN DUNGEON

Dynamiter Refuses to Do Prison Work
and Is Placed in Dungeon.
San Quentin, Cal, Jan. 20.-James
b. Mcnamara. the dynamiter of the
Los Angeles Times building in 1910,
has spent the past seventeen days in
a dungeon of the state prison because
Of his refusal to work in the iute mill.
He declares he will continue to hold
out.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
WEATHER FORECAST

New Orleans. La, Jan. 20
The weather forecast for Ok.
lahoma for Sunday Is rain in
eastern Oklahoma; fair and
colder In western Oklahoma.
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Continued on Page SIX
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1917-01-21
eiaeest Navy in the World.

"In the Atlantic, our fleet ought to
surpass the German navy" Mr.. Hob.
son said today in talking with an Ard.