Evening journal., 1917-01-08

7 Representative Chiperfield developed |
new line of examination, seeking 10
find whether there could have been a
/ leak in the cable office here or at re-
/ lays abroad. Forty three copies OF the
note, Lansing said, had been sent to
various nations.
Lansing explained the government
has no private cable.
The committee next called Thomas
w. Lawson, who stepped smilingly 10
the witness chair The fireworks m
ancier was in his element. He beam
ed at every rules committee member
once. and at each OF the score OF news
papermen twice.
He was told to proceed in your own
way. please His first remark caused
some to smile and Chairman Henry
to look glum.
"I have reason to believe I will be
stopped" Lawson complacently re-
marked
Asked his occupation. Lawson. for
the first time in his life. hemmed be-
fore finally getting out:
well, we'll call it farmer, and a
argument ensued
? "Well," he added, II have been in
the financial business, but I'm now
farmer"
> After explaining his lawyer had ad-
vised him that the committee had no
right TO demand answers or produc-
> tion OF papers, adding that he does
not purpose to stand on that right
, Lawson said. There has been leaks
! from the United States Supreme Court
= as we'll as from the White House
= Il am going to proceed to lay be
fore the committee all that consider
e advisable TO show up this damnabit
situation that had existed for the pas
two wears and to help stop such Z
. thing as happened the other day whei
, many citizens lost billions OF dollars
b. "WeIl. proceed" interrupted Heur
/, shortly
y 81 do not understand lawson sai'
=, - .that this committee is sitting to hal
~ any guilty persons out in the open an
- punish them. / will repeat what ] haN
i told to newspapers there ha'
Al been leaks and that thousands and ter
a. Of thousands of persons have been ruti
n. lessly robbed.
~ Il repeat it now. one Of the common
ir est things in Wall street, where a
these things center, Is q Washngtc
70. leak on things Of such importance thu
~. they affect the prices of stocks.
,,t 81 mean bv that, leaks from the -
nm preme Court Of the United States, fro
= the Senate. advance information Of cat
or net officers. advance information dire
. 10 the White House.
in Lawson and Chiperfield here il
to dulged in bitter personalities, afte
de Chiperheld said che could see fou
ne flush and call It."
lot Lawson held an attempt had bee
~ made TO "insult and bulldoze him.
be Lawson insisted committeeme
could not put words into my mouth
and insisted on continuing I'm m
own ways and not otherwise 81
ed. he submitted TO cross-examinatio
no after declaring his willingness
take the consequences" for m
'ed answering questions II he did not d
'ch sire TO do so.
in Asked il he would name the pers'
Mr.. responsible for the leak he HI
TO charged Lawson answered:
uld TO do that ] would have to be
rec principal conspirator or benehciar,
vas '1 said those things because III I
of mast two years there has been gig;
his tic robbery Of the American people
led "A deliberate robbery carefully work
lnm out EdAu IL IDEA1An' n tNAANW N--NN
,er- that two years. there had been boe
securities made and sold to the Anne
can people to the extent of milliC
NJ NJ of dollars.
we "In my telegram TO your chairm
oay I said Congress did not want an
vestigation. felt il then and T
ere it now.
ma "When your chairman told me
the snut nm or shut up,' / was entir
re- sure the committee didn't want an
by vestigation This is a case where
Iack citizen spends his time and moi
to helm in such a damnable Outrl
~ as this leak and then finds the h
, lines say put up or shut up.
the Il will not give any names"
"Do YOU know OF any individual '
conveyed this information to v
pc Street," he was asked
rom Il know something about II.
orm. Pressed. Lawson said he had no
owe rect legal knowledge"
on. 81 know many who prohted n
VII the leak" he continued. Il prof
40. myself"
by "Do you know Of anyone at
White House Executive offices
y OF gave out any advance informa
The about the noteY Henry asked.
C." Il have answered that by sayil
signs have no direct knowledge, not ma
oyes been a principal
had A new row started when Henry v
the cd TO know il lawson would prirf
give any information about the
been Department end Of the investigation
by II will give it TO the chairman
until sou said
II have done what have only to
not he'll lambasted out Of me"