Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-03


\. | think I did
Q Who're did you buy that ticket? \. At
the pennsylvania Railroad station.
.. Did Maloney buy ticket? A. | think
ne had a mileage ticket or bought ticket
! cannot recall that
.. Did you meet anybody as soon as you
got on the train. the men from the Dis
trict Attorneys Office? A. Yes, afterward
Q. Where did you meet them-as soon as
you got on the train? I didn't meet any
body but Mr.. Gordon, Jr.
9. As soon as you got on the train that
night? a. No, not as soon as | got on the
train, didn't know they were on the
train, in fact.
Q. on election day, what time did you
leave your sisters home at Sharon Hill? A.
oh. guess about dinnertme
O. And you came to Philadelphia on the
elevated? A. Yes.
Q, You got Off at what station? A. At
Fifth and Market.
@. You went down to the Fifth ward?
A. Yes
O. I understand that the first place you
| went 10 was this club? \. No, sir, l didn't.
l went 10 the polling house first
Q. How long did you stay at the polling
house? A. I stood there talking TO Mr..
Blumberg, / guess about fifteen or twenty
| minutes
Q. Then where did you go? A. | went
around there and saw this man, Davy Har-
fls, ana ne told me no Woulu tty 10 NUu
George and also a man by the name of
| Broderick. He said 'he just left here.
think, TO get something TO eat"
Q. Well. where did you go after that?
A. went to the clubhouse.
Q. Who did you see there at the club
| house? Az Wei, | saw--oh, yes, that was
| when Mr.. BIumberg told me that there was
a warrant for me Then ] saw Mr.. Isaac
| Deussch standing in front Of the club, with
| four or five men in the automobile. I told
| what Blumberg had said.
Q. Did you meet Blumberg before OF after
J you got to the clubhouse? A. No 7 met
him before right around the polling house
| Q. When you got TO the clubhouse. whom
J did you see? A. Isaac Deutsch. in front
of the clubhouse, with thre or four men
! in. the automobile.
/ Q. Who did you see in the clubhouse
anybody? A. There was this Mike Bug
! donom and a man by the name Of William
l Goldstein and his son. and three or four
others I don't know.
c. You don't know anybody but Godstein
and his son and Bugdonof? \. | didn't
I look at him 10 know and he just shook
! hands with me.
Q. How long did you stay in the club
| house? A. We'll until-there had been some
| talk, just long enough to converse with this
man for a few minutes and then there was
| some talk about some trouble in the divi-
sion.
Q. You left the clubhouse and went
! where? a. There was some tall; about this
trouble In the twelfth division. That is
just square from there, and they expected
| Max Deutsch to be there and attend to il.
lie said, Jim. go down and see what 1t is
and IL was only half a square from the
clubhouse, and | went down and met this
man Cram. He told mo what the trouble
was about this fellow interfering with him
or something. and [ thought the man had
right to do that If he was interfering
legitimately. and told him he should not
feel so i'll toward people, and I simply left
him.
/ Q. You can't tell us any other person
who was there at the twelfth division
other than Uram? ~ Yes, there was n man
| there l saw, this McCabe, and I saw q man
named Altman inside Of the polling house
Altman was. Then Deutsch had told me
that Altman all right.
! Q. Then after leaving the twelfth diyi.
J sion, where did you go? y. There were
two men met me at the corner and said
How is it for votng?' l said, what dc
you mean, voting?' Why" they said
they got dollar crack. We voted her,
and we voted at the other division acros,
Z the way" / said, II can't help you IL
voting. Do you belong here? NO" w,
t don't belong here but they gave them
= dollar crack.
.. Those two men you don't know? A
No. don't know them.
=. You never saw them in your life be
fore? A. No.
9. There is no way that you could iden
! tify them? A. No, there hardly is becaus,
y l will tell you the reason why, because
said How did you vote-who vouched 70
| you?" They said. Just near the corner
that big fellow standing there" | said
What big fellow" And | saw this specia
o officer, or this detective, O'Brien. standln
n there
1, Q. You have told us all that. ] don
y want to weary the court. I want TO kno,
5, II there is any way by which you ca
identity these two men? 4. No, there ism
? any way, because It was so disgusting 70
mo for them to tell me about this ma
n vouching that throwed them aside.
: o. You do not think you would kno'
them? A. No do not think I would Itno,
II lhem
O. Now then, after your conversatlo
:? with these two men where did you GO? !
| walked up Sixth street walked up Sixt
II street and these men went up Sixth stree
"a didn't want to get near them because
didn't want any talk with them after wha
. occurred about the fake voting. and whe
= / arrived within about fifty or sixty fe,
. OF the corner there was people comm
% down Sixth street, rushed up Pine an
rushed toward Fifth, and there was peop
rushing all over Sixth street Then
ct | heard some shots, and a woman ran pa
Al me and two or three others, and knocllC
C. the chain right off my vest. | stoope
down to pick It up and / went into Il
w clubhouse.
~ @. You went into the clubhouse? A. Ye
~ sir
20 O. Did you have your glasses on at tn
time? A. No, did not.
, Q. You did not, When you got 10 L
a. clubhouse whom did you see? A. sa
Bagdonoff
We Q. No one else? A. There was other pc
w pie there.
or Q. No one else You recognized was ther
do A. Excepting Mike Murphy. when he car
ng in.
=. Murphy came in and asked il a m
nd had run In there? A. Yes, Murphy a
nut these other men with him.
@. And he was standing by Murph
ere He made some remark 10 you he had
go mind TO arrest everybody in the place?
go Said he was going to pinch the whole pla
ere WELL" says, that Is up 70 you" II
ma this colored man rushes in. My Go
he says. Jimmy all them people has
'ou revolvers around there. You know I al
A. afraid Of anything, but I am afraid
'th- that" He says: Somebody must do sor
mt thing. Those officers said, we will
II, around there / says, Well, go arol
you with them and they went around,
mt then / went TO the station house"