Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-02
Fifth Ward Murder Hearing Told in Questions and Answers

saulted; I; did you zee? a. You see was
going around that sixteenth division
@. But did YOU see the defendants? \.
I saw men with slouch hats on and one
fellow could never lose sight of was the
fellow that put the gun to me,
O. Did he have a felt hat on? A. Yes.
Q. what color? A. ] couldn't see, but
I could never forget his face--the dirty
coward. / would never forget.
q. Where was the Colored man? A. ! do
not know where. He jumped up right like
out of the ground OF course, you see after
being assaulted that way | couldn't see
what was done behind. He jumped up. This
fellow says, You go ahead, l got him. i
will place him under arrest"
O. Did you hear shot fired? A. Cannot
remember whether heard the shot fired.
Q. You fell unconscious? a. I fel y un-
conscious ! didn't know what happenet\
O. Were vou on the ground until 'ou
were put under arrest? A. No. do {
know whether somebody had got hold {
me to lift me up. | creeped up on m.
knees and finally got on my feet and stag
gered up against the wall ! was trying
to keep in Off the corner, because | knew
that man. / don't know whether he is
there now or not. | was in the Police De.
partment myself. This fellow put the gun
right up to me.
O. Who was the colored policeman? a.
AS soon as the man put the gun to me
he had gun, hollered to me. 60 back
go back" The police officers there ap-
parently knew the fellow from the way he
talked TO them
Q. Who, the co.ored man? A. Yes. He
said 10 him, GO ahead. / got him. | will
lock him .up. You go ahead"
G. Where did he go? a. He went right
into Cypress street.
Q. The colored policeman took you as
you have described?
Q. Did you identify the man who had the
gun? A. Yes, sir.
him.
Q. Where did you identify him at? A.
In the City Hall
@. That day? A. That day
Q. When Hayden said to the man who
had the gun, Go ahead, you go away,
will attend to him." were you on the ground
then? A. No, was staggering against the
wall.
.. What did Hayden say to you then?
A He said, You know me, don't you? You
know me? My name is Hayden" He said,
Il Will take you" and he placed me under
arrest. don't know what for.
When we got to the hospital said to him.
| says Am under arrest? What are you
going to do?" Some one I can't just recall
who, one of my friends, says to him, Have
you warrant for Mr. Carey?" He says,
NO" He says, rs he under arrest?"
''No," he says, II didn't see him do any
thing" | says, why didn't you arrest that
fellow that had gun up to me?" He
says, 81 didn't see nothing" And when
identified that man, he put the gun to my
head. ] went into the District Attorneys
office and this fellow Hayden was there, the
colored officer, and | told one of the as
slstant district attorneys what the fellow
done. | says, If this fellow had arrested
that man who had the gun to me" and
lTn1 rtNaN1 Al. Il
the shooting. He says, Yes" after identi-
fled him, and says, IF that fellow had ar
rested him that poor officer would never
have lost his life
Q. What was your condition as to blood
mess and injuries at the time this colored
officer arrested you?
A. Well | was in a horrible state. Any
body could see me could tell you that
Q. You tell me.
A, Well, was lunged up from the back
of the head here. There was Jumps as biz
on my head as large as your fist Don't
know whether II was a sandbag or what Il
was, and the blood was flowing there from
cash here Ondcating), on the side OF
the face, and my eye tn It was out that way
0ndicating).
g. Is that any exaggeration, or was your
eye standing out that way? A. Oh, IL was.
because anybody that saw me-people say
Il,
l couldn't understand what was the matter
with that eye ] don't know whether II was
kick or whether II was a blow. or a
glance blow with a blackjack, but my head
was cut open, and then the doctor = the
surgeon said, @You have got a pretty had
CASH" one Of the doctors at the hospltsI
Q. You have been in bed ever SINCE? A.
Yes sir.
q. Until this morning? A. Yes, sir
Q. Did you before the election, ten days
OF thereabouts before the election. write
and send letter to the Mayor? A. Yes,
sir. -
MR.. GoRDON-Gentlemen, purnoss
having the witness Identify his signature 10
this paper
BY Mr. Gordon-Q. Is that your sigma
ture? paper shown witness.) A. Yes.
sir 10
Q. To whom did you entrust Il for ds-
livery to the Mayor3 A. Mr.. Stern.
=. lsRdore Stern? A. Yes, sir
q. Just look over that. paper shown vii
neae) IA that the letter. Look over n ssr-
srelly A. That y The letter yea, s'r.
Mr. Gordon ROSE examine aenflef,,a..
M Scarlet We walYf cross ozan,lnai,en.
! ar peFaea.1 1hat q All Mr. Carey 6, "
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