New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1917-10-05

well known Paris papers he men
toned
Q.-Was there any mention Of
LA Paix.' published at Madrid!
Al do not recolect II.
Q.-Was there any mention OF
lie Bonnet Rouge" A.-Not to
my recollection.
Q.-Then you cannot say whether
any of the following papers were
mentioned: lie Bonnet Rouge"
"Tranchee Republicaine," lie Ma
ton" 1.-The Garnet de la Seminaine"
lie Paix." A.-No sir.
Q.-Now understand that the
mention of these other papers
whose names you have forgotten
was Mt this first meeting at the
Plaza. A.-Yes. remember vague.
lv that h. told me lie Journal
was his great card. | knew what
Senator Humbert meant in France.
knew that he was one OF the lead
ing politicians and most patriotic
man, and all that.
Three days after the Bolo-von
Bernstorff conference, Pavenstedt
said that the German Ambassador
came TO New York and told him that
the money would be forthcoming
Hugo Schmidt, representative Of
the Doutsche Bank, present at the
conference. also testified before the
Attorney General He said that Won
Bernstorff told him to make what
ever disposition of the funds Paven-
stedt might direct.
Story of Hearst Dinner
Concerning the relations between
the German spy and William Randolph
Hearst, Pavenstedt's testimony Reads
as follows:
Odd you attend a dinner of a
somewhat elaborate character, given
by Bolo? A.-Yes.
@ Where was Z? At Sherry's.
Q.-How long before he went
Al. was toward the end of his
stay.
Q-How many were present at
that dinner? A.-Twelve.
Q.-Can you name them? A.-There
were Mr.. and Mrs. Hearst, Of the
newspaper-the Hearst papers, New
York American" Mr.. and Mrs.
Hearst were there, and there were
Jules Bots. French poet; the other
people were all strangers TO me.
Q.-Who introduced Bolo TO Mr.
Hearst Al don't know. have no
knowledge OF his relations with Mr.
Hearst az all.
Q.-Had he met Mr.. Hearst at any
time before this trip TO America
Al don't know.
Q.-Had he ever discussed Mr.
Hearst with you? A.-No, he did not.
He did in a social way; he told me
abou. his wife, that he had called
there. and that he had a wonderful
home and pictures. Nothing beyond
personal matters.
Pavenstedt also swore that on one
occasion he went with Bolo 20 the
home OF Owen Johnson, novelist. for
dinner. He said that they had dinner
with Mrs. Owen Johnson, who was. he
said, one Of the guests at the Bolo
Pacha- Hearst dinner.
Bank Clerks Testimony
f. c. Pignatel, clerk OF the Royal
Rank of Canada, in the New York
branch Of which Bolo deposited the
money obtained from Bernstortf, also
told Of Bolo's references TO Mr.. Hearst.
HIS testimony OH tHlS maze -"
Q.-Meaning the proprietor OF The
New York American" A.-Thst is
what [ understood. lie mentioned
him as "Mr. Hearst" and | happened
10 remember thai because he made
statement that his foral decorations
were so beautiful. He spent great
deal OF money on the floral decors-
tions and il was that incident-that
gorgeous display OF flowers which
amused III. and drew my attention TO
that dinner.
Q.-Was anything said az the time
"a the effect that he believed Mr..
Hearst TO be pro-German and was
irving 10 convert him 70 the Allies?
A.-Yes.
Odd he at that time state gen
orally what his purposes were in be-
ing in America? A.-No. At that
time there was nothing but small
talk and gossip.
Odd Bolo Pacha state generally
to YOU at any time what his purposes
were in being in America other than
talk with reference 20 obtaining print
psper? A-After the print paper he
mentioned the purposes OF establish
ing that account and getting all the
funds here.
Bolo's Account of Money
Odd ne ever state to you IN any
way why he was maintaining his ac-
count or what he was going TO do
With the money? Ayes, he ex-