Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-02
coa.lns.s from Pase Two

arr" =, LA before and Will go with
|' n .'iH 'Aii right Mr., Mayor" and
cent 70 my table with Mr.. Stern and
I.1 MrR Oppenheim. The, next morn
,f.aboul half-past ten. Sunday morn
vent down to the Mayors house on
|'.-4|s avenue. near Pacific avenue, in At
I..i|c city. The Mayor was in his dining
.'hh b his shirt sleeves, having break
|.t and the secretary, Joe Smith, came
81 on the porch To- entertain me for few
I1nuies until the Mayor came out When
Who Mayor came out, he said, MIR. Stern,
4 have read this letter II is awful. II
t horrible did Judge Gordon write that
ktterT He said, Judge Gordon can't
frlghten me-" He said, Does McNichol
know that you are here with this letter."
said, No" He said, Don't you think
YOU had better tell him?" He said, II
don't want this published" He said You
had better tell McNichol about this letter
because have a certain arrangement and
agreement with McNichol regarding chang
Ing the police in the TlArd District, an6
the publishing OF this letter will interfere
with IT,"
said, well Mr. Mayor. you better
call Senator McNichol up on the telephone
yourself. He is right down here in Allan
tic City, and he doesn't lEe very far from
you" He said, 'All right" Come in with
me while l telephone" So the Mayor and
went into the Mayors cottage We went
into small room, which he explained 10
me was the children's breakfast room and
he closed both doOrs--nc; he closed one
doos and left one open and thea his bfother
Joe came and closed the oih~ door, and
spoke to somebody outside ola the. porch.
Then he called Senator -McNiohols T use
up on the telephone. lie said, rs that
you. Jim2' Then somebody answered He
said, This is Tom Smith" He said
"Stern is here with an. awful letter" he
said, and tpld shtn you had better know
about t. Bhis letter Is awful, and don't
want Il publlshedH Sc he said. stern
is sitting 'rikht,l alongside of me-" Then
he said SStern,", he said, Senator Nc
he said, ."Au right, good-by." Then he
said. Here Is the letter he wants you TO
bring the letter up with you" SO | left
the Mayors house, and as | was leaving,
noticed Congressman Ware and his family
on the front porch, and left the Mayer s
house to go to Mr.. gMcNichol's house, and
took jitney., I arrived at Senator Nc
Nichols house within about ten or fifteen
minutes. The Senator. said
Q. II is not permissible that you shall
state what SAnator McNlchol said to you.
What did you do with this letter when
you got to senator McNlchors? A. In ac-
cordance with the instruction Of the Mayor
showed that letter to Senator McNichol
The Senator read 1t and said give me that
letter" He retained the letter
O. Now, did you see the Mayor again
between that time and the night before
electlon2 A. After delivered the letter tc
Senator McNichol. the letter in my opinion
having been the property Of Mayor Smith
and he having intrusted that to me, went
back 10 Mayor Smith and ! said, MIR
Mayor, Senator McNichol took that letter
away from me and told me 20 see you
He asked me not to have II published bu
will see you tomorrow morning In youi
office, in accordance with the arrangement
you have with him." At that time Con
gressrpan Ware on his porch and
came right up TO Philadelphia and wer
70 t,a cd ~ tha Il ,,aY,
and had the publication stopped.
Q. II was to have been published? A
Yes, sir.
O. Mr.. stern. you came to Philadelphia
that evening. Did you go to City Hall? A
Yes, sir.
O. Did you see Captain of Detective
souder? A. 1 saw Mr.. souder. l do no
think he is captain of detectives
Q. Well maybe did not give him SUI
hcientiy dignihed title. A He was captai
Of detectives.
Q. Well, he is a detective? A. Yes. sil
@ He Is connected with the detective de
partment of the police? A. Yes, sir
Q. DID you have conversation wit
him? A. 1 did.
Q. What did he say to you? A. wei
In to see him, and / believe DetectiN
Welsh was in there and Detective Las
range. They were laborously writin
something on pieces of paper, and wei
into cot1,er Of the room where DetectiN
Souder lao his desk. and had low, II
innate conversation with him. / asked hi
If his men were ready TO make a repo
to the Mayor tomorrow morning. becaui
the Mayor was going to have meeting
the morning with Senator McNicho q
police conditions In the Fifth Ward. +
says, Yes, we are getting the report
shape now, but we haven't got time to con
plete II "He win have at least enous
to give him a chance to take some actic
morrow" said Captain" -. call'
Inn captain because he had been capita
-. "dos you find that the conditions tht
we told you about in the Fifth Ward a.
true?" He says, "You did not tell n
half enough about the conditions"
says. We fnd them worse than you state
and the Mayor will have the report c
Monday morning"
O. DID you see the Mayor again to ta
with him before the election? A. No. 81
did not see the Mayor but on Tuesda
q Then you did not see the Mlyor I
until the night before election? A, Unit
the night before election.
Q. The next morning, tell us of the o.
curences in the ward as far as they r.
lated to the police and assaults upon cit
zens? A.. TIE next morning l was avail
ened by Mr.. Carey. He came down to m
house. i went around to the different pol
ing places.
Q. Tell us what you saw at these polir
places. IL there was disorder and who wei
the participants and what took place? !
Ine nrSt pOluHB place We " eIlt 10. was II
tenth division, which is at 436 or 4s4 Lon
bard street
O. Who was with you2 A. Mr. Car,
and Mr.. Maurer
O. The assistant district attorney? !
Yes sir. p,ay y's,Gg y:,& gTr'y s ta.s 20 . ~.
Q. Tell ,As, what occurred, a, :. When v
got there II was just about o'clock, ar
we sawsa SHVhibsr iof policemen there an
they arresfed Mr.. MieiaSl. the Judge
election, and several or the men We z
into the polling place about quarter pa
seven. There was a lot Of disorder cause
BY the policemen o..
@ They were in plain clothes? A. Ye
O How many OF them were there?
There rpust have been fifteen there.
Q. Do you recall the names Of any
themT A. No. sir. / cannot.
q. What occurred. A. / received wo
about fifteen minutes past seven that son
man were arrested at the Third dstri
station house. Mr. Carey and. Mr. Maur
and myself went down to the. Third dstri
station house and believe we took Mag
3rate steyenson with us. At any ra,s VIII,
we got there Magistrate Stevenson wi