Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1917-03-07


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lie attacked the reports Of the COM
mittee of engineers who investigated
Piers 8, and 10 in his absence on the
u;ainland.e .
He declared them impracticable I'M
der the circumstances and too costly
for the result they are designed TO
obtain.
He criticized, by inference and sew
eral times GIrect.y. the reports and
the computations of the investigating
board, repeatedly limiting that ne be-
lieves the wcrx they did entirely in
adequate for the $4,000 fee charged by
the three
He engaged in several heated verbal
passages with the engineers, particu-
larly with Giles Fl. Gere. one OF the
three, and to lesser extent with
Earl B. Andrews and George W. Arm.
itage, the other two.
Contradicting the findings of the
investigating board. the chairman sub
mitted to the board an entirely new
scheme for the construction of Pier 3
the pier of the now.famous bulge"
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had been worked out by himself and
the engineers of his department.
This plan, he declared. would cost
less by $1S03 than the plan lately APP
proved by the board-the Gere plan.
Forbes 10 contradicted
Forbes statement on this was con-
tradicted by the engineers, who said
that while they are not prepared to
pass offhand on the details Of his
scheme, his figuring OF the compara-
tive. cost is unfair and unsound.
Forbes made it plain that he backs
this new scheme and Is determined to
have ii adopted in place OF the Gere
plan, which the board approved in
his absence and on which the con-
tractor was ordered to proceed.
In acticn and In words he made it
Main that he believes the findings of
the investigating board are reflection
upon him and bis engineering knowl-
edge and that he will not submit TO
this criticism.
Results of Meeting
The definite results of the meeting
last night were mainly two.fold:
j. BY motion the board asked all
the engineers of the investigating
board to submit all of their available
data worked up In their investigation.
Forbes having demanded this on the
ground that the data should be check
ed over.
2. BY motion the board directed the
chairman to instruct the contractor,
Lord-Young Engineering Company. to
proceed Immediately with work on
Pier 10. but that in the work suction
dredge shall not be used.
Work on Pier 9 is halted while the
controversy over the alternative pans
is being fought out.
The barring OF use of the suction
dredge is a result OF the various
charges that this dredging was part
Fly responsible for imDairing the pier
work under investigation.
Two-Hour Session fs Tense
Incident piled on incident in the
[two-hour session last night. It was
held in the harbor board room and
was a public session. Those present
| of the harbor board were Chairman
Forbes. Commissioners Wakefield.
Mccarthy and Mcclellan. Commits
sioner Church was unable to be pre-
sent.
BY invitation the investigating
bcard-Andrews. Armitage and Gere---
was also present Aside from these,
there were some engineers and sub
ordinates of the public works depart
ment and representative Of the Star
Bulletin.
To grasp clearly the Significance of
last nights meeting, 10 might be
briefly brought back to mind that the
Investigating board rendered a major
| ity and minority report. Messrs An
drews and Armitage rendered the FIRST
and Gee tile minority report. and the
beard approved the latter and ordered
work to proceed on 1t. When Forbes
returned rom the mainland, he object
ed to this Immediately and work has
been stopped on Pier 8.
Assails Ceres Computations
At the opening OF the session last
night Forbes handed around some
yellow sheets on which was good
deal Of figuring. He said these repre-
fsented Engineer Ceres computations.
Gere had not yet come in, and Forbes
said these would be taken up later.
He asked Arrnitage and Andrews if
they had checked over Ceres figures
and each others computations and
received the answer that in a general
wav this had been done.
From the beginning Forbes referred
frequently to what he termed the lack
of data furnished the harbor board by
the investigating engineers. After
Gere came in, this was reverted to.
Forbes virtually demanded that Gere
| furnish all the figures he had and
Gere said his office was torn UP
temporarily. but he would do what he
could. Armitage said he would ''see
about" furnishing his computations.
"That $500
Forbes sharply reminded both that
they had been well paid" and Gere
said. That $4,000 seems to be worry
| ing YOU, Mr.. Forbes.
! at Is" shot out the chairman.
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