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Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05
Them Is Sure Kind Words.

These women can never
STRIFE a moral level with anyone. They
expend all their energies trying to be
saints, instead OF trying to be good,
eveI yday humans. This is one of the
reasons why the men get along so
much better than the women. They
have been told from the beginning
that they are sinners, and they have
gotten used TO the idea, and they just
20 about in everyday fashion doing
the fsst they can and they succeed in
being very likeahle, very brotherly and
very good in the best kind of way"
Mrs Walter Ferguson, in Chandler
News Publicist)
We pledge Mrs. Ferguson our sup
port II she ever wants 10 run for Of
flee.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

Turkeys holy war" waged among
the non-combatants OF Armenia and
SYRIA rivals the slaughter houses and
the graves designed by kultur in Bel
gium. The flattery OF imitation doubt
less fills potsdam with holy glee.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05
You're Better Man Than
Gordon Gin

Love is the doorway thru which
the human soul passes from selfish
ross into service, and from solitude
into ginship with all humanity.-The
esteemed Spectator.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

what short and IN 0 @
evenlful career We
have been pretty far < ~
removed from paved ~
streets. electric lights I H-- -
and uniformed po- : ~
Icemen.
Quite some dis A. x~A .
'tsnce out In The country. in fact
Rode out in a lumber wagon, in
fact
Being rather nervous during the
/ journey for fear the driver. an eX-
ceed!ngly prOfane person. would jerk
out his siX-pistOl and snap II a couple
Of times.
Ordinarily We would not have thoi
much about the mule chauffeur.
But on both Of thb.e trips the
driver had consumed far too much
liquor.
He had just purchased a new shoot
( ing iron.
And had been Tilted by his girl.
We supposed he had been Tilted
| twice.
While We are positive about his
condition as regards the liberal con
/ sumption OF whisky.
And purchase Of new revolver.
We won't commit ourselves as "a
4 the second disappointment in love.
]
He was discouraged on one oc-
casion, We know.
when we saw him again he was
IN tile same fix.
Altho he may have been grieving
over the same girl.
We didn't inquire too closely into
his affairs.
For we imagine II would be terrible
/ 20 have somebody prying in our af-
/ fairs where a busted romance figured
promiscuously.
Anyway. that's how we reached q
l point out IN the great woods.
Where they had no electric lights.
No paved streets.
And nc. policemen.
In this locality they generally had
dance every Saturday night.
All OF the men showed up with
their boots highly creased.
A ~~ell-olled six-shooter in one
| pocket.
And a quart of battling booze in
/ the other.
Festivities generally were humping
along nicely around midnight.
After midnight they became plumb
good.
Every so often a wild yell would
pierce the night
The monotonous drone Of the in
| dividual who called the dances was
pcnctured with revolver shots.
There were always a dozen or more
/ fights.
Those, If you please, were real
dances.
There was excitement galore.
Dances OF that character are now
almost a thing OF the past.
Death does not lurk in the corner OF
the present-day dance hall.
or II It does 1t doesn't lurk in such
great numbers.
The nearest thing to the shoot en-.
up dance of other days is the jitney
struggle.
Even the jltney struggle can't com.
pare with the old-time struggle.
For the reason that the boys use
frog stickers instead OF guns.
or throw bricks.
And they don't get very far with
this mode of warfare.
Because OF the police department.
Yezza.
The dance is going back.
With the action OF the nations
municipalities in frowning down the
modern litney struggle.
II won't be long until there will be
nothing exciting about a dance.
Except on rare occasions when
hrnthAr pil.A ~ 10
comes Jealous when his girl dances
too often with good-looking party
that he doesn't like.
ABSOLUTELYi
French Hold Gains.
PARIS, Nov. <.--Notable artillery
activity is continuing on the Aisns
front, north Of tho Chemin des Dance,
l.. a
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

II there Is fat man in your fam
ily, conserve him with less food.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

Hooverism Is the anudote to the
high cost Of living.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05
Do Your Party Swapping Early.

Lest We forget, 1,2ls more days OF
Gore" says the Daily Ardmoreite.
right at the top of its front page.
The Ardmoreite, one of the papers
that espoused the senator's resigna-
tion, apparently has given it up.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

Meatless days, Cut out the blubber.
Pass the whale
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

October Is shaping the melancholy
days for November
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

1t won't be long till livery stable II
be as big q curiosity as round steak.
Mrs. Lafe Buds mother has scnt her
ten dollar bill fer birthday pres
ent with a note sayin'. "Mebbe you
kin buy some little thing with this
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

him the story Of his life beginning,
with his hegira 10 Grayson county,
Texas, not only Will all thots OF yio-
lencc leave the pro-Bun, but he VIII
be out on the stump for Bin next
summer.
The state board OF affairs has
promised Durant that II will pay for
paving the avenue out To the normal
school there IL Durant will supply the
material and build a bridge.
Occasionally wife makes up her
mind TO punish husband, by never,
never asking him for another dollar,
DnS she II so good and forg.ving that
she can't stay mad long Infeiicity
note in Greek County Republican.)
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05
Penrls OF Great Price.

There is also food conversation.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

QuIte some dIs- a ala- k41
'tance out IN The country In fact.
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05
Gods Promise to the Jews Is Being
Rapidly Fulfilled; Leaders Are Many

hH1Nr al the lord chief justice and I
lr.yy councillor y the Blttish Empire
Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1917-11-05

Secretary of State Lyon is fixing il
mp thst the soldiers may vote in the
coming elections. The chances are
they VIII exercise their right OF suf-
frage in tho mayoralty elections of
Berlin before many seasons.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
PETITION FoR DIVORCE.

PETITION FOR DIVORCE.
State of Indiana, Wayne County, S.:
George NJ Biddle rs. Anna Elizabeth
Biddle
Wayne Circuit Court. October Term
1917 No 1904
Be It known that on the 9th day Of
October. 1917, the above named plain
tiff, by his attorneys filed In the office
of the Clerk OF the Wayne Circuit
Court his petition against said defend
ant for divorce
Said plaintiff also filed with said
complaint the affidavit of John 4. Con
key, disinterested person. showing
that said defendant is not a resident
of this State, and also his own aft.
davtt showing that his cause for d.
vorce. as stated IN his said petition. is
abandonment.
Said defendant is therefore hereby
notified of the fling and tendency of
such petition, and that unless she ap-
pears and answers OF demurs thereto,
on the. calling of said cause on the
eth DAY Of December, 1917, at the
term of said court which was begun
and held at TIE Court House In the
City of Richmond, on the first Monday
of October. 1917. said cause will be
heard and determines I'm her absence
Witness, the Clerk. and the seal of
said Court, at the City of Richmond.
this eth day of October, 1917.
MICHAEL w. KELLY. Clerk.
Gardner. Jessup, Hoelscher & White,
Attorneys for Plaintiff
oct27-nov3-10
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

The Ohio State Pharmaceutical AS
ISOLATION instructed It's council of ad-
ministration to take over, and run
without profit to the association, the
business Of all members who may be
called to the service of the country.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT OF Ap-
MINISTRAToR WITH WILL
ANNEXED

Notice is hereby given that the IN
deTsigned Harry G. Parke has been
duly appointed by the Wayne circuit
court, Wayne County. Indiana, as ad
ministrator with will annexed Of the
estate of Bessie c. Parke, deceased.
said estate is supposed to be soly-
ent.
HARRY G. PARKE,
Administrator with will annexed.
Frank T. Strayer, Attorney.
Oct 27-Nov. $40
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

The present demand for flash lamp
batteries exceeds the output by 800 per
cent. The flashight is an almost in.
despensable part of the soldiers equip
menf
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

SALESMEN-$6 commission per order
and repeats. Best premium assert
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towns and cross-road stores. Grove
MIS-. Co, 1852 Cottage Grove, Chi
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
AGENTS AND statesmen

CANVASSERS-We offer steady en-
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You can make good with our offer.
Person with automobile or horse and
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
NOTICE

We are organizing a new commercial
sales department and want men who
are ambitious and DESTROYS of making
permanent connection with large
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Manager, IA Comstock Bldg.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

CONTRACT RATES obtained from
The Palladium business office
CLOSING HOURS - All Want-Ads
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OUT OF-TOWN ADS must be accom-
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THE PALLADIUM reserves the right
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WANT-ADS giving a letter or mum
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

A firm In India has inquired about
markets in this country for sandal
wood.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
EDUCATIONAL

WE-Want sixty more ambitious men
to enroll In our day class at once.
For information. write for Catalog G..
indianapolis Motor School. Indianap-
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
REPAIRING

EVFRYTHING-We repair almost cy-
erything. Call for and deliver. Yves
ley Brown & Son. Phone 1886
FURNITURE = Repaired; pictures
framed; all kinds Of stoves, BICYCLES
and sundries. We repair everything.
Brourn-Darrell Co Phone 1895
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03


A improved
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SOME CITY SNAPS
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o
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ABOUT THAT
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03


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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03
MISCELLANEOUS FOR SALE q

OILS. lBu.
MISCELLANEOUS FOR SALE 81
CHAIRS-6 dining. wardrobe, stands.
Call 127 South 18th.
CLOTHING AND SHOES - Ladies
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240 FIT Wayne Ave.
Furnitnre and Stoves For Sale.
Almost new at = Of original price.
Easy payments IL desired
HOME SUPPLY STORE
ISL Fl. Wayne Ave Phone 1862.
MFDICTNF-Dr Vinton's Vintolax for
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PARLOR sTTTE-Call 81 South 9Th
St
REFRIGERATOR Business size. also
other household furniture. 212 South
Sth
STOVE-Large heating, 229 North
18th
STOVES-one small hot blast So 90:
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

III could show you an investment
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

Call 127 South 9Th
CLOTHING AND SHOES = Ladies
second hand for sale. Phone 2143 or
240 FIT. Navne Ave
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

OIL-S55 Acres. Proven field so oil
wells. October monthly dividend IL
percent. Room 200 wells Shares
now 81. Literature free. Mason Gil
& Gas Co, Scarritt Bldg, Kansas City,
Mo
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

Furniture and Stoves For Sale.
Almost new at u OF original price.
Easy payments il desired.
HOME SUPPLY STORE
ISL Fl. Wayne Ave. Phone 1862
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

STOVES-one small hot blast $500:
one open CRATE stove. $500; one wood
cock stove, $500 ]. NJ. Foster, lis
So. w End and F SITS
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

LARGE CORPORAT1ON-Ba by
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The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

REFRIG E2ATOR-Busines size; also
other household furniture. 212 South
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1917-11-03

MEDICINE-Dr Vinton's Vintolax for
liver. stomach bowels. 10c all dealers
PNRIlOR STITE-CaH 81 South 5th
81
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
BATTLING COUPLE IN JAIL.
Marshalltown Man and Wife Stage
Battle Royal at Fernald.

Charley Steinhagen and his wife,
Ruby. ofSthis city, are in Jail at Ne
rada serving a three day sentence,
following a battle royal at Ferland,
Sunday evening Steinhacen had been
employed by Benker Templeton, of
Fernald. to do some work on. the con-
struction of his new home and he and
his wife were met at the Nevada sta
ton by Templeton, who took them in
his car 10 Fernald. En- route the Setip-
hagens became belligarent, RUBY
charging Charley with taking her
rocketbook, * is claimed in n news dis
patch from Nevada.
When the car reached Fernald, Ruby
jumped thru the side curtain OF
Templeton's new car going out head
foremost. Then the battle was on.
The Story county sheriff and his dep
uty were called and arrested the pair,
but their fighting spirit was not cooled
even after being lodged in jail. Ruby
told the officers that if they would put
her in with the man she would beat
comply, Ruby being locked in cell up
stairs and sSteinhagen being confined
on the lower floor.
Later Steinhagen confessed to the
officers that they had been drinking
Jamaica ginger-not much, but enough
to create a feeling of antagonism and
a desire to mix things
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
MUSICAL CLUB BUYS BONDS.
Local Organization Votes to Invest in
Two $50 Certificates.

Members of the Tuesday Musical
Club who met Tuesday afternoon at the
home of Mrs. X. J. Wilson, sos West
State street. enjoyed an interesting
study and program on the first forms
of music, including the canon the pre-
lude, the invention, the fugue, the
rondo, and the suites. Mrs. Wilson. and
Mrs. Charles Allison read papers on
these various forms. as carried out by
Bach, and illustrations of the forms
were played by Mrs. Ray Doolittle,
Mrs. r. E. Keyser. and Mrs. r. G. VAL
entne. with songs by Mrs. Carl Whit
lock The program was closed with
a group of songs by Miss Irene Mason.
Preceding the program routine busi-
ness was transacted and the members
decided to. buy two $50 liberty BONDS.
At the close of the afternoon refresh
ments were served by the hostesses.
Mrs. Wilson Mrs. E. E. Gildner, and
Miss Anna Maude Kimberly.
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
RUB YOUR BACK!
STOPS LUNBAGO
Don't drug kidneys! Rub the
. pain right out with old
.'St. Jacobs Oil;'

Back hurt you? Cant straighsn up
without feeling sudden pains, sharp
aches and twinges? Now, listen! That's
lumbago, sciatica, or maybe from n
strain, and you'll get blessed relief
the moment you rub your back With
soothing, penetrating st. Jacobs Oil.
Nothing else takes out soreness, lame
ness and Stiffness so quickly. You
simply rub it on and out comes tho
pain. It is perfectly harmless and
doesn't burn or discolor the skin.
Timber up. Don't suffer. Get a
small trial bottle from any drug store,
and after using it just once, you'll for
set that you ever had hackache, lum-
bago or sciatica, because your back
will never hurt or cause any more
misery. 1t never disappoints and has
been recommended for 60 years. Stop
druggiug kidneys, They don't cause
backaChe, because they have no nerves,
therefore can not cause pain.
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
WILLARD WILL PROBATED.
Executors Named in Will Approved
and Bond Fixed at 100000.

The will Of the late l.. l.. Willard
was admitted to probate in the district
court this forenoon and the executors
named in the will were formally ap
pointed by the court. The executors
of the estate are G. H. Ruth and G. C.
ST. Clair, of this city, and w. H. Kali
back. of Oskaloosa.
A recheck of the property held by
the late Mr.. Willard shows that the es-
tate will aggregate more nearly $500
900 than 100000. as at first estimated.
The estate consists of Sl6S,0Oo in stock
of the Marshall Oil Company, said by
the company to have value above
par; the Willard home, valued at S75,-
900: life insurance. $4,000; other
stocks. $4,000. making total of
S29S, 900. and in addition Il farm in
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
RUNAWAY LAD Is CAUGHT.
Twelve Year-Old Waterloo Lad Starts
Out to Make Own Way in World.

Thirty minutes after the local police
had been notified of the disappearance
of Paul Waters, a 12-year-old Water
loo lad. and bis fathers automobile,
from the Waters home, the officers
had the boy in custody in this city.
Young Waters took his fathers car
and about s14 from his mothers purse
and left Waterloo shortly after noon
Tuesday. At 3:3A the Black Hawk
county sheriff notified the local officers
by telephone and at o'clock OFFICER
Starn had the boy and the car in
charge. The lads father came to the
city Tuesday evening and this morn
ing took his son and car home.
Young Waters who had been on
trip to North Dakota recently. was
bent on returning to that state to Sc
cure work. where he declared there
were plenty of jobs He came by way
of Marshalitown in sarch of the yell
low stone trail. which he wished to
follow en- route to North Dakota where
he believed fortune awaited him.
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1917-10-24
NO DECISION ON NEW SITE.
Country Club to Renew Lease on Ole
Grounds For Present.

The annual meeting of the Marshall
town Country Club was held Tuesday
evening in the directors room of the
Marshalltown Club, when officers We're
elected and reports of officers and COM
mittees We're given. James McNally
was reelected president and the new
directors chosen for two years We're
Mrs. G. w. Darling. Mrs. Z. c. Abbott,
A. 7. Quad. and Rev. B. F. Martin.
The report Of the committee on a
new location was not ready, so an ex-
tension of time was given and the board
of directors was authorized to secure
an extension of the lease on the pres
ent grounds, with the idea that if the
new club grounds are purchased it will
be few years before they could, be
placed in shape to use.
The bylaws committee was author
lied to add an initiation fee of SIS for
new members. This was done to Keep
the old members in the club. Plans
for raising the membership dues, for
building a dixie and for liquidating the
club debt, were also discussed.