Harrisburg telegraph. [volume] (Harrisburg, Pa.) 1879-1948, 1917-01-16

where outside the bars of a prison" !"
said he indorsed that. ana revealed to
Henry that he had much to do with
the money trust inquiry, though Hen
ry' member of the committee, was
unaware of IL.
II told him." Lawson said, that 1
dug up much of the information. I'm
termyer wane to Europe while l did
1t. l personally paid the bills of the
experts, upwards of 100000, and
asked for no glory except to appear as
witness.
To Probe Wall Street
Here is a chance told Henry,
to duplicate that. 1t is the greatest
thing that can be done for the Amer
lean people
GO to Wall street and set up shop
was the advice Lawson said he gave
Henry. There, he said, all of the
Stock Exchange members could be
summoned with their books and clerks
ana forced to reveal the inside of
transactions.
Referring again to his conference
with Henry mentioning Secretary Lam
sing and Bernard Baruch, Lawson de-
clered Henry told him the committee
had the substance of all of one of
Lansing's talks at the Biltmore Hotel
with the New York broker. and the
substance of part of another.
Will Know Hypocrites
Il said to Henry, go through it
from 4 to u, >" testified Lawson, and
before you are one-third done the lid
VIII be blown off. Congress will know
and the world will know who the
nypocrites are that are making mil
mons. That was what we talked about
in the three hours and quarters
was with him.
He asked me one thing before we
left the meeting: Task you to do
this he said. throw the newspaper
men OF the scent. We cannot gain
anything by letting them know that
we are coming back here at s o'clock!'
so met MIR. Henry again at 3
O'Clock, Lawson continued. He
said TO me: Lawson, I'm sorry that
we can't do what you say. 1 agree
with you that it is a great thing and n
good thing and all l regret is that 1
am going out of office on the fourth
of March
Too Serious For Public
Il said that there was time enough
yet to do something. Then Henry
said that since we had parted in the
morning he had thought it all over
and that he had come to the conclu-
sion that the matter was too serious to
have made public. He then added:
What do you say If we get at 1t again
in thirty days?'
Il said, not at all. 1t would be side
tracked by that time and we will
never have this opportunity again"
State the way in which the names
came to be mentioned first, in your in
terview with Mr.. Henry" said Repre-
sentative Campbell, Republican.
entered the room and the chair
man said nice things to me. He
wheeled up chair and said: Take
comfortable one 1 asked him to
nf .4ier
me to have one of his cigarets.
Then he said: Lawson, we've been
through these things and now let us
be fair with each other said to him
that thought his committee would
dispute his right to hold a star cham
Der session of this matter and that 1
probably shoul dhave to talk to the
committee. He said: No; it's my
duty to do this. There are hundred OF
things that come before this commit
tee, many of them worthless charges
and 1t is my duty to sift them and to
see whether they should be given to
the committee
"'VCery Well said, but it is un-
derstood that we are to think out
loud We shook hands on il and
Henry said: That's it exactly. What's
proper to give to the public or to the
committee We'll give and what isn't
we'll hold in confidence 1 said that
was agreed.
Now" I said. don't ask me to
give names of men who have told me
things in confidence and he had quite
long talk about that and finally he
said: All right: but some time 1 am
going to have those names or there
won't be any investigation
Won Bernstorff Made Millions
Then Mr.. Henry said: TO show
you where we sand, I'll tell you some
OF the things we've got. We have it
that Mr.. Baruch who made large
contributions to the Democratic cam
paign fund, had four conversations
with Secretary Lansing
That's going some l replied.
-Four of 'em?'
Yes he answered, -four of them
and then he added forgot to state
this yesterday-'we hav ethe CONVEX
sauon of one of the interviews and
part of the conversation of another.
We also have 1t that Count Won Berns-
torff, the German ambassador, is so
mixed up in it that he made over $2,-
100000. We've got it up to 50 ,O00, ,O0O
now"
Mexican Dope PeddIed
Then l said to Henry: MFR. Chair
man. it does not seem to me that you
need me in order to start an investi-
CATION.
Then Henry asked me: Do YOU
think Baruch could be mixed up in
this way. using his friendships in such
way. and involving the integrity of
the Democratic party?'
Mr.. Chairman / said, L think he
would be the last man in the world to
do such a thing and / will stake my
head that Secretary Lansing would not
take a postage stamp OF profit out Of
such transactions even though these
things were floating all around him.
Then Henry asked me how these
things could happen and l told him
that there had been a big conspiracy
in Wall Street for months and that
this leak alone was not responsible.
told him how Mexican war informa-
tion had been peddled; how situations
were made to order. and / said that a
man like Baruch in the market, keep
ing posted. naturally, If he unearthed
any information through rumor or
otherwise, and was certain that
people were making enormous op-
erations. would take advantage of the
market"
Again repeating what he alleged
Henry said to him about Secretary
Lansing and Ambassador Bernstorff
Lawson added that upon repeating the
rumor about the ambassador Henry
had said: Do you think that is pos
sible?'"
An extended discussion over whether
Henry had said the rumors had come
to the committee or him personally
followed and Lawson said he was not