Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1917-10-03

Q. lie said that suggested captain Gar
lahan? A. Yes, sir.
o. Did you tell him anything about cap,
tain Callahan being his appointce anu
friend? 4. / asked him II be would sehu
Captain Callahan then. and he SAID NO
and ! said We'll, Captain Callahan "a
straIrht man. and t-know il you send MN
down there you will get order" and he
says that no knows he Is Il good man that
he was his personal appointment.
@. Eleven o'clocl, on election Gay OF
thereabouts. Did he say anything else he
had done that day? Did he say anNthlhs
about mounted police?
i. He told me that he had Just gathered
all the mounted police that he could get
20 be sent into the 1rth Ward, and Director
Wilson corroborated that and said he would
send more down there If necessary. ! toId
him that that was very good politics, that
that would intimidate the voters that nluch
more
O. Did he say he had just sent them
down2 4. Just sent them down.
c. What did he say when you told him
that was very good politics, that II would
intimidate the voters that much more? ~
The Mayor said nothing. Director Wilson
just gave n sneer or snickcn
WILSON STANDS BY BENNETT
@ Did anything else occur? \. Yes. pt-
| rector Wilson wanted to know how he could
prevent it told him, Very easily, by
moving Bennett" ana he got up from the
chair and hc said he wouldn't move Ben
nett FOR anybody in Philadelphia.
| BY the Court-Q. Who said that Di'
rector Wilson? A. Director Wilson.
| O. That he would not remove Bennett
| for anybody In Philadelphia" \. For any
| body in Philadelphia.
O. In the presence OF the Mayor? " The
! Mayor and his brother
! By Mr. Gordon--Q What else occurred
! \. The Mayor said he would not ASK MIN
| to remove Bennett, because he was undel
fire and ,he was going to stick to him untl
| he was either proved guilty or proved in
! noccnt | told him that that wouldn't dc
| any good. because it would take two ol
| three weeks before there would be any
trial of Bennett or any one else, and he
/ would still be in charge on election day.
Ole said what then? Ale said hC
| was going to stick TO him.
Q--Anything else? A-That is all.
Odd you see him again? A-Ngrsir'
BY the Court-Qs Who was II said he wa
going TO stick TO him--Dlrector Wilson O.
the Mayor? a. The Mayor.
Q--Going to stick to Lieutenant Bennei
A--Lieutenant Bennett. until he was proved
| guilty. \,
BY Mr.. Gordon-Q. How long did yoe
interview last? \. I Judge about twent!
| minutes to half an hour
Q. Do you know where the Mayor wen
afterward? \. No, Sir
O. Have you told us everything Of sui
stance and relevant about the Fifth War
and the police there that passed betwcc
you and the Mayor? \. Yes, sir
MAYOR STARTED" BY McNICHOL
O. When you spoke about your fathe
to the Mayor the first day. on Monday. whn
did the Mayor say, if anything. 10 20
| f,tn IN
his obligations? What did lie say abou
his relations TO your father? \. The rea
tions with my father had always been th
closest and he always had the utmosS rC
gard for him; that he really owes his stal
! in life to my father: that there was nothin
he would do to injure him in any way, an
/ could tell him that his interests would /
well taken care Of while he was sick.
CRoss.EXANIINATIoN.
Mr.. Betler-Q. And the Mayors attitud
toward you and through you, toward yoI
father, was just what you expected from
! friend Of your fathers? 4. Absolutely, ye
Q. Are you certain that the Mayor tol
, you that he had told Superintendent Robil
son to remove these men? Didn't he sa
! that he had told Director Wilson to remoN
kthese men? \. / think he said he told 81
! perintendent Robinson over the phone
leave orders at o'clock.
Q. When you saw him you said 20,
/ recollection was that he told you that OF
man had been removed. Didn't he tell sc
that all the men had been removed but on,
' 4. No. tsr he told me that one man hG
been removed. SeidenberS was his name.
Q. That is your recollection? \, Yes, 81
, Q. Did you ask to have Captain Calaha
supplant Captain Kenney? \. The May,
= | told me he would put Captain Callahan
| charge Of the Fifth Ward, or Third DistriC
8 9. Put a captain in charge of a distric
" | \. Absolutely.
| Q. Now, of course, you know that ca
n | tain has charge of a division which er
I braces many districts? A. I know that s
n Q. You know that Captain Kenny w
= the captain of the division? 4. Yes.
A Q. Didn't the Mayor say to you. Mr.. NJ
Il | NichoL that he had made no promise
!, | your father to keep Captain Kenny out
n | the division and put Captain Callahan 4
;, A. No, he told me he had never promis
n my father to put Captain Callahan dow
but under the circumstances, consider
, his position. being very Ill, he would p
Captain Callahan down tomorrow. Th
: would be Tuesday.
p O. He intended coming to the city earli
v than he anticipated in order TO do tina
c A. Yes.
o BY Mr.. Gordon--Q. Were you in the Elf
! Ward Tuesday? A. Tuesday night
c O. Did you see the raid on the Finett