The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1916-04-11
PRESBYTERIANS.
LICENSE THREE
UNION'REBELS'
Controversy Over the Semi
nary Arises Again at
Church Meeting.
RELIGIOUS FEATURE IN
GARY PLAN OPPOSED

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Seminary although the young men
would not affirm certain cardinal doc
trines Of the Presbyterian Church. such
A. the virgin birth OF Christ and certain
miracles. One even did not affirm his
belief In the resurrection Of Christ.
Tn usual controversy over Union
Seminary graduates arose at the meet
ing. which was held In Old First Pres
byterian Church. at Fifth avenue and
Eleventh street. II was a little sharper
than II ordinarily is. The Rev. DR..
John Fox. secretary OF the American
Bible Society. who led the hight upon
the young candidates for the ministry.
tried to have an open meeting. but
failed. Then. with the Rev. Simeon n.
Dunn Of Forest Hills and John A. Park.
an elder Of the Home street Presbyterian
Church, In The Bronx. DR.. Fox signed a
protest against licensing the Union men.
DR.. Fox also moved to appeal to the
General Assembly Of the church,
whioh meets in q few weeks in Atlantic
City. to have the affairs of tho Presby-
tory and Of Union Seminary adjudlcated
By . friendly suit in the civil courts.
THIS motion was defeated.
Tho Presbytery also decided that Il
was not In favor of the feature OF relig-
ious instruction as provided for In the
trial of the Gary system IN New York
schools.
pr0eest Isro~ ne- ror
There were other young men up for
licensing besides the three Cnion grad
yates. but their cNaminat ton and ac-
ceptance aroused no dispute. A motion
to exclude newspaper men and Others
at the beginning Of the examination
brought a strong protest from Dr. Fox.
He called on the Rev. DIR. Charles y.
Fagnani. widely known for his liberal
views. TO support him. but DIR. F~asnani
wouldn't.
~ admit that last year 7 didn't take
this position" said DR.. Fagnani In sub
stance. but We are informed that the
essence Of progress is found in incon-
slstency. without binding myself as to
the position 7 may take next year I am
IN favor OF closing the meeting TO out
sfders because Of the possibility that re-
ports OF II may seriously handicap the
young men examined"
II was voted to exclude. The conten-
tions tina: arose later behind closed doors
were revealed by DR.. Fox's protest and
the remarks Of various men who talked
afterward.
The three Union candidates were Earl
Leroy Douglass Of McKeesport. Pa. a
Princeton graduate Edmund Il. Chafee
and Rudolph Kastanek. According TO
Dr.. Fox protest all three refused to
affirm a belief in the virgin birth Of
Christ as related in the Gospels ~
Matthew and luke. Mr.. Chanee would
not affirm the raisin; OF Lazarus from
the dead or the resurrection OF Christ.
Douglass said that the Scriptural writ
ings embodied certain contradictions.
Both Douglass and Chaffee were unable
to accept certain Old Testament miracles.
such AS the pillar OF cloud and fire that
guided the Israelites out OF Egypt and
the MAMA from heaven.
Or. Jesse II. Forbes. stated clerk OF
the Presbytery. said afterward tbs the
vote to license these men was "prac-
tically unanimous Graduates Of Union
Seminary are heavily in the majority In
the New York P~resbytery
II was said later hat the young cam
didates, while not affirming the beliefs
mentioned. expressed "a growing bclief'
IN some of these parts Of the Rihlc. upon
which the comment of the Rev. Henry
Myron Tyndail of 81 Fast lO2d stree,
was:
"somc ~ us think IT would he well IN
Delay licensing these men and let their
growing faith grow some more"
Mr.. chaffee L. pastors assistant a. the
Greenwich Presbyterian Church. Thir.
teenth street between Sixth and Seventh
avenues. Mr.. Kastanek is in charge OF
the congregation Of the Bohemian Rrcth.
rem at 5sa-59s East ls5th street. OF thu
others licensed only three. including Mr.
Douglass. are Of American blood. Eigh,
Bear italian or Slav names.
Dr. Conn Quotes the WaJrus,
Or. FoA's motion TO ask the Genera
Assembly to have the civil courts pas,
on the affairs OF the Presbytery and
Union Seminary brought from the Rev
DR.. Henry Sloane Coffin, pastor OF n,
Madison Avenue PRESBYTERIAN Church
quotation from alice In Wonder
land"
- weep for you, n" wslrus suid.
Tie added that every year Dr. Fo,
veeps for Union Seminary and tn,
Presbytery, hut that the two somehow
Get along together all right.
The recommendations adopted nv tn,
Presbytery regarding the Gary syeten
IN the public schools are briefly AS fol
lows:
l. Tina, the Board Of Education instruc
teachers and principals not 10 permit an
Clergyman 10 have access to tho lists o
pupils names, that no property ~ IN
public school he given 10 a religious schoo
and that pupils he not asked a. 70 th-i
religious anfiiations. Further. tina, pupil
Se excused for religious instruction only o
the written request OF parents.
!. The Presbytery points out to parent
their duty to give their children religion
s Thu churches ar. urged to build II
teachers In them.
-. rho Presbytery fsvors joining wit
other Protestant churches 70 divid. IN
whole city into districts. like parishes. /
proper religious instruction
81 The work Of sunday schools Shout
be supplemented by week day religion
schools. Voluntarily attended. Bible r-as
schools. without note or comment Is COR
mended. Many passages Of scripture migf
we'll be momorized In school.
The discussion OF these recommends
tions brought "A protest from Albert Dal
Gantz, pastor OF the First William,
bridge Presbyterian Church, that III
mart of the Gary system making possihI
religious instruction works unduly to IN
advantage of the Roman ,'athol
Church. TO this several retorted tia
Presbytcrians couldn't take the posit!u
of not fayoring "A thing simply becaus
sthe Catholic Church Ii ready and "
are not" AS Dr. David q, Wylie e,
pressed II.
Ziegler's Buralsv IL Held.
Walter Schurmann Of eos East Fort,