New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1916-05-27

that Office Seymour & SEYMOUR was
being used for that purpose"
Egan said he arranged for meeting
between Burns and Mortimer.
Mr.. Swami asked the witness II he
knew that Burns had gone into the
Offices at night and had taken papers
from desk and copied them IN the
offices Of the Belgian Relief Society.
Egan said he did not know II IN ad-
vance. and had neither authorized nor
ordered Burns TO do IL. While he did
not even suggest such action, Egan
said. he knew Burns was going TO the
Offices. and knew that he was going TO
look at papers.
The purport Of Egan's testimony on
visiting and searching the Seymour OF
fees was that neither he nor any mem
her Of the Morgan firm nor any one IN
Its service had authorized or instructed
Burns what 10 do. Nevertheless NJ.
Eran admitted that he knew what
Burns was going 10 do. He was NOR
ally certain. however, that Burns did
not Iisten in" on any wire when the
police were tapping the wires OF Sey-
mour & Seymour.
Looked at Tapping Report.
Ecan did admit that he had looked at
fragment OF q report" taken by the
police wire-tappers. but that II was
merely submitted 10 him by Deputy
Commissioner Lord 70 see If It would
shed any light on certain kilograms
and cable messages that had leaked
from the Morgan Office.
MIR. Lord Informed me- said Egan,
chat 10 would not be proper for him TO
disclose the contents OF any report he
had on the subject; that these gentle
men talked on a great variety Of things,
and that X would be unfair to give II
10 any one else. ! agreed, and sad
that we were not interested IN any
transaction OF Seymour & Seymour or
their associates except such as related
TO the theft of the information. ! told
him I wanted only what bore on the
theft from J. ?. Morgan's Office. The
detectaphone was not very productive.
Egan said that two weeks after he
engaged Burns he suggested to Frank
Lord that since the leak Of informa-
ton from the Morgan Office was un-
doubtedly by telephone the wires OF
Seymour & Seymour might be tapped.
Mr.. Lord followed Mr. Egan on the
stand and was asked to tell everything
he knew connected with tapping the
Seymour wires.
Lord Tells of Tapping.
"On March 81" he said, with the
Police Commissioner ! met Mr.. Egan
and Junius Morgan. Previously the
Commissioner had said that j. 7. Nor
gan & Co. had complained that cable
information WAS being stolen, and that
il might be one of nine persons or one
Of fourteen and that they wanted po-
lice cooperation"
Mr.. Lord said that after Commits
sioner Woods put the matter IN MS
hands he went to the Office OF j. 7.
Morgan & Co. and asked 20 see the evil
dence on which the claims had been
made. After seeing 1t he said he be-
lieved a crime was being committed
and asked them what they wanted
done.
Mr.. Lord testified that he had ce'-
tain wires into the Morgan once
tapped and several wires communicat-
ing with Seymour & Seymour. He SAID
that at no time had William j. Burns
"listened in"
On April 3 he said Burns and Egan
went TO his Office and that he showed
Burns one report which he wished MN
to decipher Burns returned lew
DAYS later and Mr.. Lord said he told
him that he could read the names and
understood the situation generally.
Little was accomplished by the tapping
according to Mr. Lord and the taps
were then taken of.
Helped Install Detectaphone.
James NJ. Beck. counsel for William
J. Burns, said he had just returned
from Boston and had not had time to
consider the case. He said that as the
witnesses from the Burns Office were
acting for their principal he thought
they should not testify until he had
had a chance TO confer with his client.
Magistrate McAdoo said that the
hearing. while technically John Doe
proceeding, was not really so in fact.
- quite agree with you" he said &c
Mr. Beck. "as to tho obligations 20 obey
the subpoena, but this case is not a
John Doe case. The complaint is really
against William j. Burns. II could not
be John Doe. because John Doe IS
against an unknown person. | VIII
call up Mr.. Seymour and take up
form Of complaint. Then we will pro-
coed with the regular examination, IN
which case Mr.. Burns can waive exam
court. or he can demand an examina-
ton from me to which he is entitled. )"
The inquiry was adjourned until
Wednesday. az II a. m.
Charles W. Kalo. an electrician Of
the Equitable Building, told how he
had assisted Burns in installing tive
detectaphones in the Seymour Offices.
He told 0; having seen Mr.. Seymour
lying on the floor of the west room "
Of the suite. and advised Burns That
as he could at that time see the ie-
tectaphone in the east room II was a
poor idea to have it there. He said
Burns was anxious 10 get in touch with
the people in the westerly room, as he
wanted TO get more information there
than in the other room.
That room. he said. was occupied by
Phillips. Hills and Sultzer.
Other witnesses were Mr.. Mortimer
president Of the Equitable Building
Company, and John A. Cole, a detec-
tive Of the building.
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