New-York tribune., 1916-07-17
More Men Interested in
Thoroughbred in Great
Britain than Here.

rev from IJco 10 l'l"' hh" ""N
the recipient Of many attentions while
at Newmarket, was asked at Aqueduc'
to give some of the reasons why racing
had retained its great popular''S
abroad. e., o.I
"First and foremost" he said, the
racing of thoroughbreds in England IS
a snort. Gentlemen engage IN II WIN
out a thought of the monetary returns
There are over there a greater mum
bor of men interested in the thorough
bred than in the United States. Many
of them maintain breeding and tram
ing establishments, and they are con-
tent if thev win a few races each year.
"Outside of Lord Derby. j. b. joel
and f. B. Hutton. there are few own
ers who make their expenses. Iney
breed and race for the glory there ls
in il. IL must not be concluded from
this. however. that nobody makes rae
ing pay in England. for every year
small owners get hold of good horses.
and that is one of the fascinations OF
the game. That horses capable OF WIN
ming NAV be picked UP reasonaply y
shown by the performances mere tnls
season of Faux Col, Jack Mount, Aris-
tobolus and Perugini, all OF when were
secured bv me and sold TO various own
ers Faux Col won the Canadian
Derby on Tuesday for Mr.. Mackenzie
and is undoubtedly fair horse.
Short Meetings Popular.
"The short meetings and the fact
that racing is held in every part OF
the country give the sport loving briI-
on more or less intimate knowl
edge of racing and breeding. Ihls Is
an education in itself. The fact tnat
there is wagering on the Derby tne
Lincoln, Cambridgeshire, stewards
Gun and other fixtures is an additlohei
nhase which tends 10 increase tne pop
ularity of the sport.
Society is still another contributing
influence" resumed Mr.. Joyner. ASCOT
and Goodwood especially are FAMOUS
for their hospitality. The great Lon ,
oon clubs. such as the Bachelors ana
Snorts and all the crack regiments
have tents. and between the thrd ana
fourth races an hour is set ASIDE ior
entertainment. Members of these OF
canizations distribute tickets TO tnelr
i friends. and it is really gala occa,
,ion. with ladies and gentlemen dresseu
as only the English can turn out 4oi
such functions. A.,
"Perhaps as great as any OF the
( favorable aids to the racing game are "
/ the military meetings. Ihese are
mostly 'cross-country and the horses
are ridden by the crack horsemen OF
4 tho army. Races are also gwen a.
these meetings for members OF tne
various clubs, and there is the strong
est kind of rivalry. The war has, OF
course nut a damper on this Drancn
of the snort, but the love OF a gooc
horse is so strong in the EngiiSn
heart that look for resumption OF
these meetings as soon as peace Is
restored"
when asked if English horses were
NOT as a rule. bigger than ours, Mr.
/ Jovner replied: "Yes, | think they
are. and they require more time t'
come to hand. AS yearlings they are
bitted and driven about with reins anC
\ saddle and never backed before sep
tember. In order to discourage tn
racing Of youngsters no stake OF al
added value of 600 is offered priol
70 .Tune |. There is an abundance o
two-vear-old racing, however, as earl
as Lincoln. and in the autumn you VII
find the Youngsters running agains
horses of all ages even up to tw'
miles. There are no handicaps II
England for two-year-olds at any dis
tance."
As to how our hoYes compared WITT
those Of England,' Mr.. Joyner re
marked:
"That is a difficult question to an
swer American horses of quality, Il
thev could be landed in England on
tho ton of their form, could hold then
own. Englishmen think Foxhall anG
Irocuois were very great horses De
cause they won their classics. WhisN
broom was a good horse for me ano
Harmonicon was considered the oesl
sprinter IN training. He never showed
his best in this country. Whlskoroom
gave Wllonyx five pounds IN the Nov
elty Dinner Stakes at Liverpool anc
was beaten a short head. Subsequently
Willonyx won the Ascot Gold Cup anc
the Cesarewitch, carrying III pounds
in the latter
Mr.. Joyner was greatly impressed by
the manner in which discipline was
meted out by the Jockey Club. Amy
owner. trainer or jockey" he SAID
"who wishes 10 make complaint has &c
tlrSf post deposit OF I'VE pouHun dhe
make his objection in writing. II the
claim or objection proves reasonable
/ the money is returned, but If OF a
/ frivolous nature the amount is for
/ feited. Any persons accused of prac-
/ tices detrimental TO racing have the
I privilege Of confronting the accuser
/ Positions at the post are drawn in pub
/ tic. and if a Jockey leaves mis- position
/ he is asked TO explain by the stewards
l There are few fines. some suspensions
| and then a revocation OF privileges
/ The starter inficts no punishments; nc
renorts to the stewards, and they, IN
| turn. hand out the penalties"
"How does the selling race rule work
over there ?"
Perfectly" was Mr.. Joyner 3 re-
I sponse. 1T is regarded as anybody
| privilege TO buy or claim. Men borrow
| halters and brides with new purchases
/ and frequently seek out a trainer 70
/ learn if the animal has any pecullarl-
( ties. To my idea, the best disposition
/ TO which the surplus in selling races
can be put is 70 have one-half 90 10
the owner of the second horse, and the
balance to fund for extra races.
There seems 10 be a better feeling
toward racing here" said Mr.. Joyner in
conclusion, "and, like everybody else
/ interested in the thoroughbred, | am
looking forward 10 the Saratoga meet
? ing where the best Of the Eastern and
Western horses will compete. The