Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1916-11-02

Thomas II. Marshall. the Vice President,
has never bet on an election. He declared
% himself before he left philadelphia at
10 ;s0 O'Clock this morning for Wilmington,
where he will urge the voters OF Delaware
30 rc-elect Woodrow Wilson and himself.
The Vice President also bitterly attacked
Senator Henry Cabot Lodge. OF Massachu-
eetts. for making public a 'cursory conver-
satfon alleged 20 have been had with Mr..
Breckenridge. who was not member OF the
Cabfnet' He s'hedged" on the result In his
own State, Indiana. and predicted that the
result OF the election will be either an over
vhelming victory or an overwhelming de-
II never have believed IN betting on cleo
ions" said Mr.. Marshall, "and as for bet
ting odds being any indication OF the situ-
alton, straw votes, polls and other guesses
are Just good weathervanes."
He appeared to, be optimistic over Pres
i6ent wilson's chances for reelection. al
though he said he was just as "cocksure"
that II Wilson Is beaten II will be landslide
for Hughes.
II FEEL CONFIDENT"
II have been all over the country" he
caid. "and / do not believe for one minute
that the criticisms that have been ieveled
against Mr.. Wilson are having any weight
with the voters. I feel confident that he
will be reelected by an overwhelming
majority.
But I am Just as 'cocksure' that II he
= defeated, he will be beaten overwhelm-
fngly. II is not question OF parties this
year, or Of issues IL is simply a question
whether the people like Mr.. Wilson's ad-
mlnistration or not IL they do like II. they
win return him TO the White House by a
tremendous majority. II they don't like
him, they will beat him by just as large n
majority"
Last night you referred TO the Breckin-
ridge matter" his interviewer began.
Ns.l.r a 80.
Dreckinridge matter" broke In the Vice
President He was emphatic Il discussed
the Lodge matter"
You are speaking as Democrat when
you call II the Lodge matter, are you not?"
II most certainly am. he declared. II
cont often criticize. but II il almost a
crime 10 have men in public office spread
ing broadcast cursory conversations with
cut verifying them.
''ons thing seems to have been forgotten
and that Is that Mr. Breckenridge was
never member OF the Cabinet. He coula
not speak with any authority. and IL -
preposterous TO SUPPOSE that he could have
knowledge OF anything discussed by the
cAbinet.
Il am surprised that Senator Lodge
should have retailed vague conversations
which had been told 20 MIN by some one
else who In turn had been told them by a
msn who did not know Senator Lodge
stood on the floor Of Congress- and argued
IN favor of the Presidents foreign policy.
and I cannot understand why he should
now be telling on the stump the CONVERSE
tons attributed to Mr.. Breckenridge"
Mr.. Marshall pleaded complete ignorance
" how the campaign Is progressing in his
home state of Indiana.
II have not been there since September
Is. and have not been In touch with the
situation In Indiana since left the State
10 speak in the campaign.
"As a matter OF fact do not believe
that Il does much good to do what they
TO say what he has TO say. present his argu-
ments in the best way he can, and then walt
for the result OF the vote. II all depends
upon the voters and they know what they
are doing. II wont change the result a
BIT to know whether you are going to win
~ lose before the votes are counted"
USES A MCCORMICK PHRASE
The vice President borrowed Vance Mo
cormicks phrase. ION fire." IN describing
wilson's chances In Illinois and Ohio
II have been all through Ohio and Illi.
uoiE" he said 'and they are both on fire
tor Wilson. You can't tell me that the
flames for Wilson win go to the eastern
border OF Indiana. stop there. and then start
again on tho western border
But ! am not making any predictions
about Indiana In 1895 was a member
Of the State Committee. We made what
We thought was thorough poll OF the state
The votes were cast honestly. too we felt
certain that Bryan would carry Indiana by
1900. But when the votes were counted
we found that he had lost II by almost that
many votes You never can tell how les
ooine 20 come out until the votes are
oounted-"