New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1916-12-27
TINKER BELIEVES
M'CRAW'S TEAM
IS NvNCBLE
Former Cub Says Giants
Are Better than Chances
Famous Machine

BY ". J. MACBETH
The announcement from the W.,
last week tina. Joe Tinker had par.
chased the Columbus club Of the Am.,.
lean Association created no great su,.
prise in baseball circles. /. va, ,vi.
dent from the engagement OF Fr.
Mitchell as manager OF the Cubs TIA.
Tinker's days in Chicago wer. nun.
bered. No one seriously believed IA.
Joe would be able 70 effect a esns.
back that would entitle him TO cas-.
sidcration as regular shortstop.
The removal OF Tinker from IA.
scene lightens 20 a degree the hsav,
, task that lies before Mitchell "a "A.
reconstruction Of this once forridsks
baseball aggregation. Yet there /,
something pathetic in the departurs a.
! the master shortstop 10 the v~l.
+ oblivion OF minor league company. X.
/ was the last OF the once great Cub
machine which made real baseball hi,.
tory ten years ago.
So long a. baseball endurcs eill o..
| dure the arguments OF compsrso,
among the truly exceptional collection,
! of the diamond-the old Orioles undsr
Ned Hanlon, the Cubs Of Chance, sns
] the Athletics Of Connie Msck's pristiss
! genius. The argument is ons that ess
never be settled, for all THREE came ..
different eras. Consequently thsrv "a
no means Of comparison among Ii.
three.
Il is true the Cubs and Athletics ne.
| IN the world series % 1910 and tea,
{ Chicago was conquered. Yet the Cubs
were But a she'll Of the proficient team
, that ruled through 1906. 1907 and lses
Chance and Steinfeld had begun Z,
break; Hoffman had replaced Slsrs:
a years idleness had undermined .hs
| effectiveness of Johnny King; Eyer
the pivot and life and fire Of the H.
I field. had been eliminated by brokss
/ leg. That series may be discarded.
Span of Years Short
! The passing OF Tinker marks even
more clearly the limit OF athletic en-
/ durance. Ten years ago the Cubs wsrs
supreme in the baseball world. Only
three OF that proud array remain il
major league basebsll-Evers. Real
bach and Schultz. Chance, Brown,
King. Leifeld, Overall, Tinker. shsek
ard, Slagle all names to conjure vita
have passed. The mighty steinfelt;
D has been dead some years.
Only a very few of the Cubs among
the champion Cubs OF 1910 remain 70
the game. Jimmy Archer, discarded By
Jennings after his second disasters
/ tilt with the Cubs in 1905, had only
been promoted from Buffalo that year
Archer was destined to make the far'
/ forget King, but he came too late to
| share the glory of the old Cubs. He's
the veteran % the Cubs to-day, Tie
only player Of the Chicago Natonss
who took part in the 1908 world seric
against the Athletics.
Whatever his faults as manager 4
cannot be denied that Joe Tinker vni
( fine Judge OF baseball eXcellercs n
play. Now that he has gone IL MAJ v
timely to publish a prophecy ne maze
last summer while the Giants Ters N
the midst Of their winning streak o.
tyenty-six consecutive games. sti
Toe. after his club had been humblsdu
every engagement Of the final series;
THAT is the best ball club have
ever seen. | am not forgetting the Oh
/ Cubs nor the recent Athletics eithss
II is the best balanced club and car
ried the soundest wsllop, both I.
hitting and skill on the bases. W.
. fensively | think IL the equal Oh tn'
I old Cubs, infeld and outiield. Win ne
/ pitchers going at their present iorn
/ the race Of 1917 would be men
formality. There will be no stopp'ns
/ McGraw next year IL he gets as good a.
I ordinary pitching. You simply can't nH
the ball through that inheld. and yos
/ can't hit it over the ou,heldefs heads
I I'd 20 broke on the National League
chances II the Giants were TO ger u
the world series"
No Rest for MoGnv
John J. McGraw, while sppreel.uH
/ the merit Of his club after he nad "
cured Herzog. Zimmerman and sS.
Carty. does not intend 10 rest on n ",
oars The manager OF the Giants WI,
stand pat only in so far as his gsne''.
line-up is concerned. He ecyen
couple Of pitchers with rival CLUBS ~.
in his pitching he believes lies Wv
secret of success through 1911 II,
Two pitchers might name WOW
assure New York the next penn.A,
said McGraw yesterday. I'm gong
have those two IL they can be nsa,
There was nothing wrong WIN .s
pitching of the Giant stan the -
months of last season. The ~..'ss
veterans Benton, PsrlH ~.
Sallee-were all slow 10 hit Their pivs.
/ gait. When they did arrive We
too far back TO reach. ,..,
what happened once MAY nay
again As a rule. veteran pitehers@yy.
around more slowly year By year
doubt unusually provoking weAe' 40
6itions of last spring had muen o.,
with keeping the veterans pssa had
! conditions next spring may Dc %.
/ IL not worse. For that reason 80
ing TO forestall the weather y -osrg
az have some very pronis'es f,s
pitchers coming up. smith ND
prospect. Every one tells me 'n .vs.
3 dleton will do. But u IS no. u" IRE
TEN TO break colts in at onGs. .,d
/ fer 10 have them sit on me osn Tss
ripen under my personal guiosn,s.
twenty-one player limit mas .h.,y.tvo
me in this plaf. The new ,rs. lin.
roster limit. with the dlsaO'u .,arr.
/ mated, will prove even more o. 0iInos gso
But Il is hard 10 convert is'''
IS set in his notions.
Wants Two Pitchers
/ III I could get a couple Of plm u..,,y
for whom l am cunning | eeoi' 70 r,i
nearly guarantee pennanL III,
them will be next TO lmposs;c;ou, 0;
other clubs already are suspk, sb-
s Snn, s'F certain Of an nvncs :, p ..
S Is on Sn' the Veteran, hitting their s'fi T.
earlier than they did a yea, ~ - a.
any n event, feel my team vii , o.
more vital factor Throughout I s,s tie
NcGraw has been hard a. ron,rsct,
last week or two preparing Chats
for the unsigned player. - me course
IneSe VIII H. D when this duty -