The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1916-07-24


I raiisf 40 Fathsr uissins ana spats
sisssi ths sirons ins.-'lsa'ian rhis
~as aisoui niRs dsss hsfofs ihs go
suFEosiiun I 'thrsS oui a heit" ih
iaislas sith Tstlssf Hlss as ~ -.
mafsins that "nitchsi 10 moral
banhfuI, snd pretend. hs 10 an snssi
~ uEht whsn be a. ihs contrary .
Iaihsf Hlssns replied "rss. ~e are
pursusd ~ paok - jaekals
y bid Ts'hsf Hissins know that
,our rsmark ~as intended as q
"haitr" A No
IMPRESSED ris OPINION Asour
vNG MAYOR.
u. You employed the language you
did about Mayor Mitchell ss q ''barf'
A That 10 correct
u. Did YOU AZ thss time express
the opinion you felt. A. Yes.
y And one ~ you expressed the
hope that the wiretapper- would take
tha, down. A. Yes
Mgr. Dunn said h. tried his bait"
experiment ON the Telephone In q talk
with Father Higgins at Astoria.
y. What did YOU say A. That
they had dragged our Sisters on the
stand ana had subjected them 10
bullying and INSTRUMENTATION.
I q. Did you have anybody In the
room or did you make a written mem
] orsndum OF tho words you used as
'balt7" A. No.
u Then you have no way OF veri.
/ fy.ny the "bait?" A. No.
Father Higgins had no witness pres
ent or kept no written record A.
don't know. ] suppose not.
Counsel Frank Moss, ON benah OF
defendant Robert w. Hcbbard. re-.
examined Mgr. Dunn.
Q. Why did YOU refrain from tell
ing Commissioner strong about the
bait" talk you made about the 500 ?
Mr.. Littleton said you might explain
II later.
"Bject." exclaimed Mr.. Littleton.
Sustained" ruled Justice Green
baum.
/
Dunn explained why he published the
Moree and Father Farrell pamphlets.
He has charge OF tho finances OF the
Catholic orphanages and similar In
stitutions which receive city money as
part of their support.
what the city pays" said Mgr.
Dunn. "ls only n part OF the cost OF
their support. Our own people pay
the greater share. The reports that
reached them through the newspap-
ors OF statements made before the
Strong investigation shocked and
Mortified them. They would be art
to think that we were fatteninE on
the blood Of our orphans unless the
truth were told to them. That is
why the pamphlets were published.
did DR.. Potter tell you that he
was going TO testify before the
Strong Investigation" asked Mr..
Moss.
He did" answered Mgr. Dunn.
He said he was going to testify be-
fore the Strong commission and that
no power on earth could stop him. He
said that certain influences had pre-
vented him from testifyins in 1910 and
that ne was made the goat. and he
wasn't going to be tho goat now"
FATHER eRANN CALLS TEST.
MONv FALSE.
When Mgr. Brann went on the
stand Mr.. Talley read to him the
report made by Police Detective
Patrick j. Slevin as to an al
legged conversation he had overheard
on the telephone March % last be-
tween "Outside" and a%s Fiatbush.
the residence Of DR.. d. c. Potter. one
Of the group accused OF conspiracy
and perjury:
\ Outside-Hello! Is DR.. Potter in?
948-who Is speaking?
| Outside-Mgr. Brann.
94S-One minute. Hello!
Outside-I know you have all the
news. l only called because I said l
would.
94s-Did you hear what Homer
| fOlks salu tO-uUy no salu ne gave
Strong's name (the com lssioner in
vestigating the State Charities Board,
to the Governor.
Outside-Did he say so outright?
9.4s: Yes.
Outside: Do you know that Madison
Avenue is trying to call 1t of and
Twenty-ninth Street Is trying to call
Il on?
94s: No. I didn't know that"
"Di. Brann." said Mr.. Talley. what
have you to say about that alleged
conversation"
1t 10 false from beginning to end!"
exclaimed the white haired priest. ut
could not be true. 1t Is false In toto.
l never called up DR.. Potter In my
life. met him six years ago and did
not converse with him then"
rs there any other Mgr. Brann In
this diocese?"
mo. sir. 1t is a very rare name.
The man who reports that alleged
converse tion should be punished"
| Mr. Tnlley offered tn read into tho