The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1916-10-03


shipping companies generally to attend
the Chamber of Commerce session. The
only company representatives TO appear
were James W. Robertson, shipping
manager for G. Brewer & Co., and John
H. Drew, manager for Castle 4 Cooke.
The other firms being unrepresented,
which led 70 a statement by member
Of the chamber body that it appeared
I'VE have not the right men before
us, McCabe, Hamilton & Kenny and
the Honolulu Construction & Dragging
Company were represented, but such
important firms as H. Hackfeld & Co.,
the Inter-Island. Theo. II. Davies 4 Co..
Alexander & Baldwin, Fred L. Waldron,
Ldt., and others concerned directly OF
indirectly with shipping were not re.
presented. =
where Strikers Demand Concession
Two cardinal points upon which the
union VIII rot recede were outlined by
Mr. Edwardsca yesterday. ... 4.
Forty cents an hour for nioe.hour
diiy, and fifty Eve cents an hour for ali
work after five O'Clock in the after.
noon and before seven clock in the
morning and for all Sundays and legal
holidays, the revised schedule, will be
insisted upon, he said. : lis
There must be provisions in the
agreement il one is reached that there
shall be no discrimination against men
because Of their having been out on
strike. tl3i u E~
Mr.. Edwardson outlined this after
he had explained that the modification
in the demand for the closed shop,
whereby the words 'swheneyer obtain.
ablen were to be added to the original
demand for the employment of union
men, meant that there was to be no dis,
elimination against union men as such
He was asked whether the two
meant the same, and he replied that
they did. Union men, he continued
would not discriminate against compe
tent stevedores who had remained at
work during the strike, but the union
il the event of q settlement, did not
propose to see the strikehreakers, some
of whom, he said, had been brought il
from the outslirts of the city and from
plantations, hold their jobs to the det,
riment ofscapable union men.
f"The shipping companies do not like
those men any better than we do, - he
said. '1Let the companies look after
them when the strike is over.',
AS TO competent stevedores who had
remained at work during the strike
he sBid that the union expected TO b.
able to bring enough pressure to beai
npcn them to get them into the organ
izaiion, a.. 80
"If we are not, it is a sign Of oui
wt4lk1fess!p r taa' G9rsi :.
The question was brought forward al
to whether a provision prohibiting dis
elimination, instead of the one for tn,
employment Of union men "whenevei
| obtainable, - would not express tn,
nnion demand better. To this he re
piled that there were "too many loop
| holes. - s#hEss r.s i,
Points Must Be Adjusted W
6 Another point raised was that tn,
! shipping companies might fear tina
the union would insist upon the dis
charge of non-striking workmeh unde
the Whenever obtainable,, clause
but Mr.. Edwardson said that thes,
points would have TO be thrashed out.
Mr.. Hemenway was told of Mr. Ed
wardson's assertion that the "when
ever obtainableu clause and the no
discrimination stand were the same
He said that he couldn't understan,
that they were. 1t unquestionably /
true that>the no-discrimination promis
would be much easier for the uniol
men to SECURE than the whenever oh
| tainableo demand even IL they d
/ mean the same 70 Mr.. Edwarison.
Hawaiian politicians advised some o
the strikers Saturday night that the
should return toswork pt three dollar
a day, pending settlement, Mr.. Edward
/ son said. Offices Of the Sailors Unio
were stormed by strikers who insiste
that nothing less than forty and fifty
five cents be accepted. Htr Mn
4 81 have many of the strikers VIII
/ will follow me in almost anything,
Mr.. EdwardsOn said, "but they woul
4 not if we were 70 consent TO reduC
| tion of the wage demand.n
On these points, therefore, the unto
win not arbitrate, Mr.. Edwardson el
| planned. A meeting between the strih
ers and shipping men could attend I
the framing of plan under whic
there should be set a time limit 70
notice Of abrogation of the agreement
and other points also would arise
the discussion, which properly could b
considered, hut nothing except a,
ceptance Of the two cardinal point
would be considered. VA
Union Ready To Arbitrate 4"
The union is ready ut any time I
meet the shipping companies or to DEF
with McCabe, Hamilton 4 Kenny.
r. Gait is acceptable to the union q
chairman of the meeting, If one is a