The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1916-03-28
WILLIAMS is
DEFIANTABOUT
BRIDE STORY
Refuses to Tell Thompson
Any More Concerning
Alleged Vote Offer.
WILCOX RE1TERATES
DISBELIEF IN TALE

identity Of the person who told Col.
Timothy =. Williams of tho ID. X. r. that
certain city officials support for his
company's subway proposition carly in
l?11 could lie secured for siU0,oUo.
Col. Williams did not appear before the
committee until the middle of the after
noon. thereby ncc.ssitatiuS an adjourn
mcnt Of the intended morning session.
And when he took the witness stand lie
politely but detcrminedly d,iicd the COM
mittce. ON advice Of counsel he refused
80 answer further questions about the
$500, 600 ''meseage' that "a man, now
dead, 40 he insisted. impaired to him.
TO the committee, pending the hoped
for pesel.so OF Scuat rhuiis,Son's bill
intended to give the committee power to
punish for ~contempt-thc hill introduced
following the recent incident over the
books of the 7. \. Gillespie tompany-
aOsuincd a policy of WAITING n ad-
5ourncd until Friday morning.
The chairman has had half a dozen
namos mentioned to him rs possibilities
since Saturday. but lc j. still IN the dark
Rs Ia which one. IL ANY. If these - tn"
man. lie iLts a strunE suspicion that th"
man WIS Il law yer who Ma active soinc
years ago ~ sccuritG wr.,s Of error aud
of reasonable doubt, Sc.
Mentions Nn,or On. nor.
In the short time that col Williams
Gas on tile stand yesterday he did say
that IT was fair TO assume that Mayor
Gaynor was the man lie had III mind AS
the official referred to IN the CONVERSE
ton lie had on the subject with former
Public Service Chairman William II.
Wilcox. col. Williams dcuiod that Ire
had said to- Mr.. Wilcox what the latter
was quoted as saving about their ON
voreation. Mr. WiTlcoN also stated on
the witness stand that III" version of the
conversation attributed to hin wa- not
correct.
When tho Thompson committee con-
vened IN the afternoon Frank Moss. tho
committee counsel. called upon col.
williams. who ann" To the hearing with
GEORGE " lcomans. chief counsel "a
the u. 4 r. aud asked him.
"Do you remember n conversation
with Mr.. Wilcox r~eConilv IN winch men
ion was made ~ , man calling upon
Nou in rctcr"u'" to YOUR being able
10 90, rid a. the hostility Of Mayor
C;aynor for $500. o00t'
81 would not put it that way" re-
eronded col Williams. ~ had = talk
with Mr.. WilicoN within the last few
weeks. According 10 my recollection,
II was generally about subway matter.
in reference TO this investigation. lie
remarked he didn't believe any man IN
the city government had been Influenced
In relation Ia the subvavs nv any inn
proper consideration. ! agreed with him
with one exception. think ! told him
generally why I had some doubts about
thst particular individual. The iudi-
vid,iars name WAS not mentioned. rs
I iecall II. I referred i'm n general way
- the incident you asked me about on
Saturday"
Wasn't the conversation su'l, a.
made 1t relate only to the Mayor
you can make your " inference
about that"
"well, wasn't Il nut in such a way
that the $500, 900 applied to Mayor Gay
nor"
81 don't recall that any amount vas
mentioned"
"Wasn't reference made to Mayor
0aynor"'
THAT IS a fair assumption. | think
we both had the same oii. in mind. but
J made 10 such remarks a. Mr. Wilcox
n reported to have made IN repeating
the substance OF our Conversation
Asks Justice for the Dead.
'Who was tho individual who came to
You about the $500. 600 - asked Mr.. Moss.
Before the witness could reply senator
Thompson interrupted 10 suggest to cot.
Williams that inas.nIcll rs he had said
the man was dead. in justice 10 all the
dead who had uIthinE 10 do With the
subways lie ought to give the iudivid.
ual's name.
IF ] attempted to do justice Ia all
the dead" rctortcd Col. Williams. "id
have a pretty hig job In answer 20 Your
inquiry | want to make this statement
'Since tc>iifyiug before the commit
tee on saturday last ! have consulted
with counsel. and upon their advice auI
wtthout. intending an! dierc~pc,t tn tho
committee, I refuse to answer further
questions relating 10 the subject Of the
committee inquiries Of inc on that day
except to rei,ert'c what I then said. In
substance. namely. that the statement as
10 which I testified wts made 10 me by
q man now dead who did not mention,
nor in any WAY Indicate 10 me, the name
nj any one who had communicated such
statement To hum and, 50 far ~ | know.
the communicate of tn" statement .,
mo was without any authority or kiiowl-
edge Of the public official referred to in
the conversation. and that ! promptly
and cmphatic'lly refused 10 have any
thing {" do NiilI the matter.
"ln our relations with the city officials
In the matter Of these contracts there
never has been an act or interview. di-
rcctly or indirectly, Involving bribery or
corruption. My answers to any further
inquiries on this subject would not hc of
any assistance T." tn" committee or be
material to the subject matter Of it,
investigation"
Mr.. Moss said that although In" mat
ter was not u pleasant one to pursue
and had invoked criticism of himself. he
believed the witness wa assuming the
discretion that belonged 70 the chairman
md left the committee without any way
OF co%rrobora,iug his statement. II
seemed 10 Mr.. Moss essential Tia. the
lind out tho individuals name