The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1916-03-12

found out I don't know. but they
haven't found and o n find even q
suggestion Of graft. crookedness or any
thing that savors Of wrong doing"
col. Williams related his side of the
recess fracas. lie AS president Of the
Il X. I. was going to reply to the foul
i~nsinuations' In the way they appealed
to him. You haven't got a single item
OF any kind TO Justify IT," he shouted.
referring to the morning newspaper quo
tation of Mr.. Moss to the effect that the
latter expected to prove the Williams
bonus came out Of the million dollar
credit allowed by the city for a right
of way through the n. n. It's yard 1t
Thirty-cighth street. Brooklyn.
Are you going to control him?" de-
rranded Senator awson.
Il wish you'd let him alone" asserted
Mr.. Moss. II know where the suspicion
lies now. a man who starts a thing
like this needn't complain"
Col. Williams read from a steno-
graphic report of an interview In his
Office yesterday morning, In which one
of tho cOmmittec's Investigators was
quoted az denying that he had found
anything to Justify MIR. Moss published
statement about the Williams bonus. II
have the authority Of your Investigator"
he said. III you gave out such "A staNe-
sasNAfkt - ~ ~ W. Nv q 'c ~ ~
Senator Thompson said II was imma-
terial what Col. williams's Ideas OF the
committee personally were. and shut
on the n. L. r. official. who WIS then
saying You're not going to hear me.
are you? What you said Il few minutes
ago you didn't mean 80
Turn to Omciml Business.
The committee then turned to i,s Of
nciai business.
At the morning session Kingsley Mar
tin. who was appointed Ivy Mayor Gay
nor TO study the Interborough's subway
offers after the OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES
visit 10 81. James. testified about his
knowledge OF the visits as conveyed by
conversations with Mr.. GayHor and MIR.
Shonts. Mr.. Martin said he visited Col.
Williams and arranged an interview be-
tween Mayor Gaynor and the latter. Hc
also saw Mr.. Shonts about the plan 90
divide the transit field between the In
tcrborough and Il. II. T.. ON the au-
thority OF Mayor Gaynor. which ultl-
mately resulted in the Il. X. r. enter
ing the field and the birth OF the dual
subway system. Mayor Caynor's idea.
he said. was to get for IA single fare
AS much transportation az possible.
The letter which Secretary whitney
btNukE ~ the nearing nIu AL STl1utS
Of Importance and significance attached
TO u by the committee. II was "A ten
tative draft Of a proposed plan drawn
by President Shonts after a series OF
subway conferences with Chairman Will
lam X. Wilcox OF the Public Service
Commission. II involved the expenditure
~ no city money. private capital only.
II was dated March 90. 1919, was un-
signed aisi did not get into the files Of
the Public Service Commission except In
a memorandum reference. Nj. Whitney
said Mr.. Wilcox regarded IL as personal
because II was not part of any formal
application Of the marlborough. The
plan which It embodied. known at the
time as the 'informal proposal was
discussed. but the letter was never made
public. That feature annoyed the com
mi;tee.
Mr.. Moss pointed ont this chronology
as significant March 20. 1910. an UNI
signed proposal TO build the suhways
with Interborough money: April "a. the
visit OF Messrs. Shonts. Towns and
campbell to Mayor '%;aynor: Chairman
Wilcox dropping out OF the transit nego-
tiations more or less after that. IN
then the marlborough offer of July ..
1910, erbodying the expenditure Of city
money and Peterborough MONEY,
air whitney admitted that after the
unsigned letter MIR. Wilcox did take u
less active part. but he resented the
: in%sinuation Of Secret archives made by
Senator Lawson regarding the Shonts
unsigned letter. The proposition OF july
:. h. said. came to the Public Service
Commission through Mayor Gaynor.
'Did YOU know MIR. Shonts had been
To- see the Mayor a month after the un
signed proposi,ion?' Mr.. Moss asked.
"\o. sir
"bid yor, ever learn
7 II thiuk Mr.. Wilcox told me MIR
Shonts had been down"
= M secrecy. says Whttn~>.
Secretary Whitney said thero was No
secrecy about the commissions nl.s
called attention In the fact that h. VA
the ono who told Mr.. Moss abou; the un,
signed letter aud offered to bring II over
he offered 10 take the afternoon of an
let the committee appoint "A Suh-roin'
mit'p" to 'Nainiu" everything IN The
COMMISSIONS safes. lie also Offered
senator Thompson all the help he Nigh
need In the way of letters. files, docu
mcnis. &c. II the senator wanted {,
nut him our IL office.
"As understand this letter" TESTIFIED
Mr.. Whitney. 1T ~ u draft of "a lcttc,
gwen To Mr.. Wilcox bv MIR. Slonts "a,
!, tentative proposal to the commission
/ think this letter with some change.
represented Mr.. WillcoN's ideas and Mr.
Slioi,s wanted his approval before sub
wittirg a formal offer ~"'uboiying them
| think sir. Wilcox regarded the l-ttc'
a. confidential"
"Ian't II true that the Tnterhorour>
conferences wtve carried or with Ia.
Mayor subsequently,"
Tina is my understandings