The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1916-02-27

HOW lie E0f0eO u
Conveying to Mayor Gaynor the de-
sires Of the marlborough. MIR. Gaynor
had written an article ~denouncing the
plan of the railroad to set up a monopoly
of the transit business. l had some
knowledge of the situation INC my pur-
pose was to convince Mayor Gaynor that
his premises were wrong. ] tried TO
convince him that II was the best thing
for the city not TO have competition with
the marlborough. On the question Of
routes there were many suggestions and
~ they came W I would go over the
matter with him.
Whom did you report to-
AT first to Mr.. Campbell. Mayor
Gaynor was my friend. | had had
charge of the case of Duffy against
Bingham, which resulted in making
Mayor Gaynor a prominent candidate for
the MayOralty."
do YOU remember the suggestion Of
naming the ';aynor tunnel
Yes. That was one of the arguments
I used. | tried to show him that II
would he better to confer a great benefit
OH posterity rather than to nurse an un-
reasonable Crouch"
And the naming OF that tunnel the
'Gaynor tunnel was one of the benefits
TO rostcrity? You overcame the oppo-
s.tion of Mayor Gaynor?'
Il don't know. II would be presump.
t.ous "a me to say | did. but | did all |
could and the results speak for them
selves"
And you got only $4,000"
81 received that about two years after
my services ended"
"How long after you saw Mr.. Shonts
was this visit TO Gaynor made"
~ could fx the date exactly II | had
known that was to be called ! recall
there was snow IN the ground. Shonts
fixes the time In April. always thought
there was snow on the ground. It was
In 1910. | should say that II could be
fixed by the railroad"
And YOU received only $1,000
THAT IL every cent. covering fees and
disbursements. that ! received. He
asked me how much ! wanted and
asked him 10Y much my services were
worth. He told me to send In a bill.
sent a bill for 500 and received n
check for 5000 and | signed a receipt
"pid you ever have n dealings with
the Board of Estimate:"
NO. My services were confined &c
going 10 MIR. Gaynor and to MIR. Shonts.'
saw FIfty Times.
You stood between Mayor Gaynol
m the railroad"
II had 10 take their views and com
municate them. | did that until I'm,
formed that my services were no longcI
needed. | felt Inundated when the as
pect was put on this that ! received
$4,000 for introducing Mr.. Shonts 4
the Mayor and ] want ~ state EN-
phatically that | received no such sun
for tina; purpose"
GLOW often did YOU sec Mayor Gay
nor asked Senator Thompson.
Three or fou times a week. shoul,
say forty or nifty times woul he within
the mark
"pd your talk In October. 1909. hav,
anything to do with hat s5.o0o?"
"Yes. talked with a rcp%resentativ
Of the InterborouGh and made sugges
tions a. TO how to educate he publ
to the idea that the clty's best interest
could be served 10y the marlborough"
WAS that talk to see II the Inter
borough would support Gaynor's candi
dacy"'
II understand that the In.crhorougl
supported both candidates
You want us to understand that you
talks with Mayor Gaynor had consider
able to do with getting nm to sign tn
contracts"
81 said that ! did certain things an,
that the results speak for themselves"
"Did you know that IN July, 1911
months after your service ended. tina
this matter came un in the Board q
Estimate and that Mayor Gaynor vote
against 'he marlborough and used IN
term 'rascality'" " that is 50 YOU
accomplishment didn't amount to mucN
did it,"
80 II would seem I never had fur