New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1916-03-10
chouts Says He Didn't
5 Tnow Freedman Had Ac-
count in England.
roES OF SUBWAY PLAN
COT NO OBLIGATIONS
,,wrs Who Received $4,000,
rsstihes Gaynor Said His Ser
vices We're Worth S75O,OOo.

Tre thompson C"4''''-
N - the pu.ative yellow pup or
49, fund Of 100000 yesterday
IN fresh start
~ Moss. counsel for tho commit
-. ,,ked Theodore ?. Shonts. presi-
-. n the Intcrborough, If any com
-s.-s,ts and obligations" were in
80 with any Official Of the city gov
.-m,rt who was opposed 70 the dual
.ahv,v contracts and who later voted
q, the contracts.
Y, sbonts declared that he neither
.-,-os spv such commitments nor obi
.,.;o,s ard that 10 such commitments
obljrsaons, TO his knowledge or be-
~ we're incurred. The late Mayor
c,yro- and Controller Prendergast, 1t
-, testified, first opposed and later
,o.ss for the contracts. Mr.; Shonts
IA he did not know that the late An
S-,v Freedman. an lnteroorough oil
~. and 8 bank account in London,
- Rad never heard that he had.
sluh Fund in London.
INA THOMPSON committee has infor-
-,.ior thst the yellow pup" or ''slush =
sr,d was Kept in q London bank, and
,sst Z, was in the British capital that
10 money was paid over.
WrsbsSu Towns, the poet-lavyer,
slis5 with the spirit Of spring, took
,5s stand and rhGpsodized about par
r,rlsr brand Of nerve-soothing cham
,svps that Mayor Gaynor had dis
covered. Of swans and scenery, OF Mr..
pekvick and Lord Hastings. and wound
N by implying that the late Mayor
cs-ror and N. Shonts were for a
.rs his gods. and that he was their
,rp-bearer and messenger. A Ganymede
md Mercury rolled IN one, he ex-
,lsiped. vas he, and thus he earned
Ss $1,000 the marlborough paid him,
,rd not for playing courier and com
psnion TO Mr.. Shonts on the 81. James
I'D.
si,er the dual contracts were signed,
,old him that his )Mr. Towns ser
vices 70 the marlborough were worth
$4,000
The Mayor said I gave them prin-
sipsliiy," said Nr. Towns.
Hs aid that he was able 10 TX the
cate Of the trip 70 81. James as April
a. 1910. because after his long trip he
had expected the Mayor would give him
some Of tire "nerve-soothing cham
ragner But the late Mayor didn't, MI.
Towns informed the committee.
Nr. Towns. who was as happy as
wer Of Browning reciting "Pipps
Passes" told how he used 10 help the
Nsyor write the letters 70 bootblacks
T, Fiatbush and rat-catchers uptown,
T.; other unusual correspondents Of
re Mayor, all OF which found their way
30 prnt
W Towns also showed his knowledge
French in his little speech on finan-
asB The late J. p. Morgan, he said,
rssred above them all as mountain
.oss over a mole hill.
And Morgan could stand out IN Wall
Srsst and say, Money. c'est moi
-'asy'," said Mr.. Towns, who later ex-
claimed 20 ore o. the committee that
test moi" in English was Il am
Commitments and Obligations"
he first question asked Mr.. Shonts
D W. Moss was:
'Nr, Shonts, vhcn you were before
last time, you talked about commit
ssnis and obligations. ] want 10 ask
y'-, considering that certain commit
cents and obligations referred 20
vsrs IN connection with the dual sub
'sy contracts. we're there any com
-iimsnts and obligations IN the $780,
.s that went % Nr. Morgan ."
Not beyond that stated IN the reso-
-ions which were passed a. the time
re payment was made" said Mr..
Shor,s.
'Were thers any commitments 70
Mayor Gsynor1'
How do you mean? From :"
ukeo the witness IN -urpr
Prom you or The railroad
rave you any impression or infor-
12,on as 20 tho payments OF money
y Commitment and obligations 70 any
Plo.c officer on railroad rattcrs ~
NO. J could say
NO, LEI Us stick 20 the text" inter
,-p'ea Nr Moss. "You remember thai
mere were members OF the city gov
s,anenf who had opposed the scheme
ispio transit your company was
h,sres,ed IN
"Yes"
were there any commitments or
o,lFsrors incurred as 20 any official
ne city government who vas 90
POSED 70 it,
-Not 70 my Impression
ine witness probably intended say
ws ioi 10 his knowledge, and evidently
li Moss so understood him. for the in
f..,.,of's next question was:
N N nst about your information >"
no. replied Mr Shonts.
Visited Mayor Gaynor.
,-i Nos. stopped looking for the pu-
@ yellow pup" fund 20 inquire
,N ne witness visit % Mayor Cay
M :, -. James. Il was on this trip
~. ~ took Mr Towns along. Ny
~" brought on that tie witness had
-si No Mayor before on several occa-
,..' sho nat thcro was no need OF
one Introducing him.
~, elonts couldn't recall where he
49,. ~ owns on that day. and said
- on the way out % o. james this
g.. '-s-- out by questioning ~
p.sPeo a. Babylon - the home of Mr.
~ ~ hawley, he taid. was one o.
oIectors % fhe marlborough. and
1,-. s'noer o. Che firm o. Hawlcy &
-, u. . Aos'' after showing that Babylon
y y.~eniy-fve miles out Of the way .
'en'es' wanted % know Why IL was
80, az 70 see Mr. Havlcy. The wit
.Slo be didn't remember. but tina.
49, PROBABLY % ask his advice re-
s the Availability % laying all
Ns,su.. fes on tho table when he met
sso. s.g mad talk with him (Haulov)
49, .efge financial matters on other
sJ, .ss asked Mr. Moss.
anP,es1rne did"
., - you confer with Nr. freedman
Is-s,- subject Of your trip 70 ST
y'osurne ] I'D"
"a - fspiy did not please Br. Moss
re 800 hr. shonts for the second