The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1916-12-07
AUSTRALIAN TYPE
 0F HOME RULES.
 SHAW'SFAvORITE N
Author Has Solution for
 Irish Situation, He Tells ' Interviewer.

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 has lent the British government $1Oo,oO0 at 1-2 per cent. he is '.agin it." like the good Irishman he is. l. /
 I recently, met him in the Strand and suggested an adjournment to Restaurant, ''Sir,'' said Bernard Shaw, drawing himself up to his full height, ''can it sbe that you are unaware that I dis like all cooked food and all drink? l have been proclaiming this on the Ehousetops for 30 years, and yet you outrage me by inviting me to "a res- taurant?'' '. Shaw stared at me with an air which the early Victorian lady novel, lists would describe as being of 'in- ,effable disdain.''
 He turned on his> heel and walked in the direction of the Embankment Gardens, where he bought paper eand commenced to read John Red mond's speech in the debate on Ire-, land in Parliament
 Pacifying Vegetarian.
 I followed close behind and, wish- ing to pacify himf-no. one who has mot met lifelong vegetarian can 1ma- Egine how bellicose they can be; the lighting propensitRes of the Irish are srnereIy a result of their potato diet II mildly asked:
 iAs 'eWShat sort of government do you sfhinkAis best for Ireland. MT. Shaw
 The philosopher of the Fabian so- Esciety .sfroked hisg beard and said:
 "A$ tso a government suitable to I4IrelaIid, N do not admit that the prob- lElem of government differs in Ireland ifrom the same problem. anywhere else lin the British Empire
 'sIrelands should have home rule of 7 1.-the Australian, type. -Many social and political experiments of great value I:have been made in Australia which might just as Well have been made in Ireland, which, with free initiative, i might have become a. political labora- tory from which England could learn a good deal.
 i saT11e Home Rule act is of the usual now not to do it type. very evidently madesin England without any assist ance from the Irish party, which does not represent Irish political ability at all adequately.
 Rights of Small NMtionalities.
 "Dublin Castle is hopeless and a1- fways has been. NominallM it rules Ethe country absolutely. Really, 1t has hnever been able to control it's own Epolice or to execute even the mildest 2of its good intentions, and most Chief jsSecretaries have gone to Ireland sim srly bursting with them"
 sss ssSeeing how the coalition govern irnent,'' I asked with the best inten- istions in the world, s.only appears to aalfenate all sections of the Irish peo- rrple, do you think that the Irish of %1og oQyvnu~otinr vxyi11 lever become loyal to the .tBritish as i;cendency government ?"
 Neither Ireland nor any other country, including England will ever ' be loyal to. iascendency to tany sort, . twas the reply. "A common loyalty to liberty and justice is the only bond that can bind Nations and individuals permanently" -
 You favor the rights of small na- tionalities to rebel Would you ex- tend this right to Sir Edward Car fson's followers in Ulster ?" ' "Yes, if they want to-though l Ihave very little patience with small anattonalities merely as such. I favor rthe right even of the individual to rebel if he finds his conditions intol- erable.
 ~But it must presently occur to some intelligent person in Ulster Git may already have occurred to Sir Ed ward Carson) that the very worst thing that could happen to Ulster would be the establishment of an Irish Parliament in Dublin with Uls- ter excluded from it.
 Ulster Would Hustle.
 v 'It is all very we'll for Ulster to say i've won't have it, but when it comes re4n spite of Ulster, clearly Listers Z q G-.- 1T. srIf the Catholic South gets even a Esingle sessions start of the Protestant North, it may take theN Protestant North 10 years to overtake the South.
 There are only two sane policies for Ulster; one, the Union; two, a front place for Ulster in the recon stitution of Irish affairs by a Home Rule Parliament. Sulldng and fall- ing between two stools will not help Belfast.
 "As to Ulster becoming a, Province of England, with the law running in Antrim exactly as in Yorkshire, the notion is entertained only by people >who don't know Yorkshire or don't know Antrim. T. ss There would be a, rebellion after the first round of the collector of eErates and taxes The gates of Derby gwou1d swing to by themselves, 4 Home rule with Ulster excluded means that the Protestant boys will Enever carry the drum in Ireland, and Ulster had beeter realize that while there is still ti1ne.a
 Orange Lion and Nationlist Hon.
 "Do you consider, MT. Shaw, that after a few years of home government the present political and religious lfeuds would disappear and that the fOrange lion would lie down with the Nationa1ist lamb ?''
 "I hope not. A Nation which is not lin chronic state of violent political fAnd religious controversy is spiritual 1y dead. The evil of Dublin Castle rule is that it has destroyed contro- yersy and muzzled the Irish people,
 Neither the Catholics nor the Pro- testants dare reform their churches -neithsr the Home Rulers nor the Unionists dare reform their parties because to do so would be to divide their forces in the face of the enemy
 Home Rule would set free to sweep out our Augsan stable, The Orange lion may have to make cofs1-