The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1916-05-26

Father Farrell. and we issued about
700. 900 Of them. II the crisis arises again
! shall DO the same thing. ! would feel
that I were going against my conscience
" I did not so act. II Ia unbelievable
that some Of the conditions did not exist
temporarily.
FOR instance. a child comes In with
ringworms. You can't clear that IN In
a week or so. But when the sisters and
those in charge Of non-Catholic institu-
tions are maiigned In this way II Is a
vile calumny. and the man who utters II
knows IL. The history Of our ssterhood
needs no defence"
Have o any knowledge OF any
movement TO disrupt the charitable instt-
tutions?" asked Mr.. Moss.
Mgr. Dunn replied:
1T Ia an open secret that a charity
trust supported by the Standard Oil. the
Rockefeller and Sage Foundations and
similar influences have one n only
one aim, the REHABILITATION OF all institu-
tons. Or as ] said. to take God out OF
the hearts Of the children. which We won't
stan for"
I'm a conversation read by the Mayor
as OF March "a, 1916" continued Mr..
Moss. "you are quoted as offering 800
to DR.. Potter. Did you ngage in any
such conversation as this?'
Tells of 400 ORev.
IT did" answered Mgr. Dunn. II
called UP Dr. Potter to apprise him OF
the fact that he could see a person he
desired 10 see. who was away at the
time. He gave me the Information rom
tanned in the first part OF the converse
ton and then told me that he was going
out Of town. He said he would be away
for forty-eight hours. II came to me
AS an inspiration that here was an
opportunity. said Well. shall I send
! YOU a hundred. not dollars. though
that was the implication, and he said
NO. | don't want II"
waited for what he thought would hap
pen. While lie was away from the
chsncellery office two cr three persons
called. but left no message. When he
got back he was sitting down at tea
about 8 o'clock In the afternoon when he
heat I'd some n at the door ask the maid
II Mgr. Dunn and Mgr. Flood were there.
Mgr. Dunn went to the door and greeted
two process servers from the Strong
commission. He told them that he had
been expecting them all day.
Il knew" said Mgr. Dunn-and a rip
pie OF applause ran through the room
1 mat oul i WIN StI
| simply threw the bait at them. and they
grabbed II as fish would rise TO bait.
! knew they would fall for II. and they
did. When I tool the witness stand a
question was thrown at me: Why die
| you put the 500 in an envelope for DR.
Potter"
Did YOU ever give Potter $780,
NO not before. nor on. nor after the
occasion. nor since then, and he never
asked me for any money. think about
a week after. when Potter returned, al.
most the first thing he said TO me was
Why did YOU mention 800 to me"
Why 7 said. it was simply TO get a
bait thrown which would be grabbed i'm.
mediately. and II happened IL worked
beautifully
"Did YOU have any suspicion on thu
cath Of March ,the date OF the ALLEGED
conversation or any time prior to tina
that your wires were being wstched?'
Il had 1t as early as March ~. ant
On ths 18th or 18th. 7 don't know which
| spoke to Or. Higgins about II. I sale
that without any question 81 wire
were being tapped. II they were not the,
would he. because this was an admins
tration affair
Denies Parts 81 Conversation.
, Mgr. Dunn denied that Dr. Potter IL
the same conversation had told him tina
Father Farrell had said that Fathe
Higgins advised Potter TO leave tn
State, He denied other parts Of TN
conversation too. He denied any tall
about leaving the alleged 500 in
sealed envelope. or that any messenge
had come for II.
Referring to the Mayors recital o'
conversation Of March - between Mgr
Dunn and pr. Potter regarding a trip o
Homer Folks to Albany. Mgr. Dun
declared that the conversation did no
take place at all. II was in this allege,
conversation that pr. Potter objected T.
being the goat and that Mgr. Dunn /
alleged to nave told him that he woul
be made the sheep.
Referring to the alleged conversation
of March 90 between "a monsignor" an,
Dr. Potter. Mgr. Dunn denied that h
was the monsignor in the conversa'io
This was the conversation about writlr
To the newspapers. Thu monsignor ais
denied that he was the unknown per
son III the conversation relating I
Gov. Whitman and his opinion OF ~
irpart!ality of the Strong investigation
~ don't think" said Mgr. Dunn. tina
II is up to me to enter into the charlie
question. Except | do want to say /
conclusion II I were being interrogate
fully that this IL not a contention on y,
part OF a few priests. This Is a cor
tention on the part not only Of Catholic
but non-Catholics. Protestants and Jew
This charities investigation In which NJ
Mitchell is so deeply interested is a
attack upon their children"
you spoke 81 a programme that yo
believed was IN progress to seculariz
child caring institutions. not only cath
Ollie. but Protestant n Jewish. I woul
like to know what YOU mean by secu
~larize."
THE word secularize. In reference I
child caring institutions. whether Catl
ollie, Protestant or Jewish, mean this
Instead Of committing the little ones I
institutions. to farm the little ones OF
into families and pay their board.
looks very beautiful, II IL really Utopia
In it's first blush. But who Is going I
supervise the care Of the $4,000 littl
ones"
"Can you imagine how these oo,00
families. all over the country. would h
watched to see whether they gave III
poor little creatures "A fair show"
Forcsees Chaos in New York.
~ can't imagine it. 1t would he a
most impossible. 7 do believe that
you do not give a child the faith of h
fathe-. surrounded with religious inn,
ences, that in three decades you will hay
chaos in New York"
"Do you believe that the conflict Z
ideas a. between the two programme
has been progressing in the instit,
tons during the last two years"
at has been growing and GROWN
until the situation In now most acut