The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1915-09-07
Skeletons Dismembered and Mix
7 cd Up, While Skulls Of Nine Of
The Fifteen Found Have Dis
appeared Altogether From Hull
PROBABLY GROUND UP ~.
IN cHURNING DEBRIS
Twenty Of the Bodies VIII Prob
ably Be Given Interment Here,
At Time To Be Set BY Admiral
Boush: Such Is Relatives Wish

When work ended last night, fifteen
skeletons had been removed from the
submarine IA to Quarantine wharf.
Four Of the fifteen already had been
identified.
Eleven are not identified, and there
is little hope that they will be.
Six skeletons remain in the hull, or,
ut least, portions Of them. The dead
numbered twenty-one.
There remains the possibility that
something may be found when the
other six are removed to make their
Identification possible, but that Is only
a chance. Judging from the expert
enee Of Friday and yesterday, no one
ever will know which skeleton il that
Of certain man.
Bones of nine skeletons were found
Friday, and the work was continued
yesterday until there were twelve for
the two days. It was impossible to
say how many skeletons were removed
Friday and how many yesterday,
Lieut.. Kirby B. Crittenden said, and
total Of twelve for the two days. )
The Identified Few
Tho men identified to date, and who
may be the only ones to be identified
are:--
Ivan L. Mahan, machinist's mate
found Friday.
Charles II. Wells, machinist's mate
found Wednesday.
Frank \. HerzOg, electrician, found
Wednesday.
George H. Ashcroft, gunner's mate
found Tuesday.
Identification Of Wells and Herzoe
was made the day after the skeletons
were taken out.
The after compartment merely is a
charnel house. Where bones are found
lying together they are kept together
80 far as possible, but many were
found scattered about unfortunately
and they were taken out In piles
Sorting was done at the Quarantine
wharf by DR.. w. A. Cress of the Alert
and DR.. William Seaman of the naval
station. Thus even Identification
would not mean that oil skeletons had
been assembled correctly, but the
physicians have done the best they
could under great difficulties.
Nine Skulls Missing
1t is noteworthy that only six skulls
have been found. Nine of fifteen are
missing. Except for contents Of peck
cts, the skulls are the only hope Of
identifying the men, and lack Of then
Is an insuperable obstacle.
One Of two theories may account foI
Al. e. IL, Ill nas-
round, they would roll readily, and
may have been lost from the huh
The other is that, being more fragile
than other bones, they might have
been crushed into small bits by the
falling debris, or broken by the grind
ing of the debris.
Representative F. A. Britten of Chi
eago, . member of the committee on
naval affairs of the house, who sailed
yesterday morning in the Sherman at
ter inspecting the F-4 with naval Of
fcers Friday, said that he did not
doubt that the navy department would
make the findings of the board of in
vestigation public. e
Public Entitled To Know
'The public mnst recognize the right
of the navy department to receive the
report of the board before it is given
out elsewhere" he went ON, "and the
correctness Of the board of investigA
ton making nothing public directly
1t Is proper that information should be
given out by the navy department
But, should the navy department mani
fest a disposition to hold the findings
back, congress will demand they be
given to the people"
Seventy-Ohe dollars and ten cents
WAS found in a poeket-book yesterday
but there is no indication as to whom
the money belonged. There were two
twenty-dollar gold pieces. three tea,
dollar gold pieces, one dollar and q
dime. The silver coins were tarnished
worse by acTas than the gold, as they
naturally would be.
This pocketbook was the only per,
sonal belonging of q man discovered
Caps Furnish No Clues
lieutenant Grittenden said that the
discovery Of pieces of officers caps in
the middle compartment did not mean
that Lieutenant EIDE and Ensign Park
or had died there. 1t is so hot in a
submarine, he explained, that the men
usually remove their caps as soon as
they get inside. The caps undoubtedly
were those of officers, he said.
Part of another group Of bones also
was taken to Quarantine yesterday, SC
that a start has been made on the
sixteenth man.
1t has not been definitely decided
that burial will be here. Lieut.
Charles f, Smith, Lieutenant Critten
deR's predecessor, had asked the rela
tives Of the Slen where they wished
burial to be, and an, except one, had
said Honolulu. That exception wal
the mother of George H. Ashcroft
gunner's mate, the first body found
and the one identified most positively
through gold dental work in the teet h
which remained in the broken skull
Et;a NATHAN raSidaS In T.. ALL