The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-07-22

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Pole. changes Necessary.
In his conversation with his political
friend NJ. kolumvakis NJ. Venizelos
forecast a war with Bulgaria. saw
Greece isolated. having incurred the dis
favor of the Allies. and painted a
gloomy picture of the future unless rad
teal changes in governmental policy
were made.
An interesting contrast to the former
lremicr's views liz given by the present
Premier in his interview. \ translation
of pr. lie etcr's ccounts follows:
Il visited the man toward whom at
present all eyes are directed at his sum
mer seat in kiphisia. where he is the
guest of a friend. the Mayor of Athens.
Benakki. hidden among the shady
green trees lies the plain little villa
where the erstwhile leader of Greece
lives.
Il found Venizelos sitting all alone at
the window of "a little half dark room.
calm. clear. determined. superior. just as
I have seen him in Berlin. looking into
those intelligent. kindly eyes. one hesi-
tates in crediting this man. who even
in the silence of the summer quiet at
once impresses one as a personality OF
imposing prominence. with that excited
policy OF recent times In the course Of
which the most secret documents of
craftsmanship nave been scattered into
the street, as IL were.
"Venizelos refused with all positive.
ness to discuss politics at this time. You
have Observed said the erstwhile Pre-
mier. that | have nowhere and to no
one discussed political questions. The
time to speak has not yet come,
The koIumvnkis Interview.
81 am not committing an indiscretion
10y now proceeding To divulge the most
essential points in the conversation be-
tween Nenizelos and Kolumvakis as re-
lated to me by the latter.
, "'Public opinion said Mr.. kolumva-
ks to venizelos, lis anxiously waiting
for a statement from you about the sit
uation.' .
The time is not ripe Yet for that,
replied the ex-Premier. i shall speak at
length in the Chamber of Deputies and
! shall produce official documents as a
basis for all my remarks
Then you are going to return to ac-
tive politics. yentured the former Dep
uty. But the idea prevails thpt you are
not inclined to assume the national Gov
ernment.'
POSSIBLY not. was Venizelos's answer
1 regard the present situation with great
pessimism and | deeply regret that no
one gave G%ounaris the proper reply when
ne udIfu tsN 80"
ing the last three months" Can one
imagine a greater disaster than that
which has come over us?
""Thanks to the policy the present
Government is pursuing. Greece has to-
day not "A friend in the world. We are
isolated.
".Tbrough the inconsistency between
his words and his actions. the Gounaris
Cabinet has dissatisfied and angered the
Entente Powers.
".I'nder my regime they had declared
emphatically and quite Officially, that
they had not the slightest intention 10
persuade Greece to make any sort OF con
cessions to Bulgaria-and that was roi
MS a great advantage, To-day they are
promising bulgaria their mediation WIN
n view toward obtaining East Macedonia
for her.
B%ulgarian War Possibility.
".To be sure. that certainly does MOI
mean that these Powers VIII give bui'
earla East Macedonia. for II does ho'
: belong 10 them. but to us. but II noes
mean this that they VIII NOT oppose az
attack upon us by Bulgaria! .
Thu We must. in my OPINION loon
for "A war with Bulgaria.
1--WE must be prepared. militarily and
financially, and we shall need Tor n wal
one and a half million drachmas a day
, while the Entente Powers will be unfaV'
orable toward US.
.,Jf we had not isolated ourselves
matters would have taken a difreren'
shane. To-day ! fear a disaster, ana u
ia unjust that ! should be held response,
h,e for IL. And so il IL possible that
SMALL refuse to assume the FORMATION ~
tho new Cabinet. Let the disaster fal
10 the names OF the guilty ones who un'
fortunately do not want TO see "hat VIZ
L. -. l., ln naSt TN roe mOnthG'
".Do YOU think it impossible asked
Kolum- axis, TO find a way out OF thi'
unfortunate situation -,
".Perhaps il Is possible replied Veni'
zeIos we shall study the situation
, we shall try it. but | have little hope
"'From what you say II appears then.
said Kolumvakis. that II you should
: again take the reins OF the Government
a you would not pursue the same foreign
a noIIcy as in The past, because the inter
> national situation has changed
e :" Certainly the situation has changed,
I was the answer, very much changed
$ / already have told you that 1t would
have been impossible for us TO continue
our former policy even II we had re
turned TO power in twenty-four hours
To Prevent Isolation.
o .~Ko,umvakis then asked Venizelos 4
4, were true that the ex-Premier bad de
clared the fall of the Dardanelles i'm
minent and that he had built his inter
yention policy upon that theory.
"'That IL not at all true replied
yenizelos. had my opinion even the
G and ! did not conceal it-that tn
n operation against the Dardanelles WA
t badly organized. very badly, My policy
n was by no means based upon the Oar
danelles operation of the Allies. NY
policy desired to prevent that we shouic