New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-04-24

10 me That the committee was gong W
elect Mr.. Penrose. and | told him TO
notify them that IL they did ] would
not recognize Mr. Penrose.
Dictated the Chairman.
Q.-You took the matter in hand per
sonally, did you not, and dictated Mr.
George Cortelyou as chairman? A
Yes. tried first to get Mr.. Cornelius
Bliss to take IT, ! informed them
would not submit TO having Mr.. Pen
rose put in as chairman of the commit
tee.
Q.-That committee is an official
body, is il rot? At is an official
body. Whether that is In accordance
with the rules and practices l don't
know.
Q.-You did not hesitate TO dictate
10 them as TO whom you insisted upon
as having chairman of that committee
Al did not hesitate to dictate to them
that | would not have Mr.. Penrose and
would have Mr.. Cortelyou.
Q.-Who was the temporary chair
man Of the national convention of 1904
A.-Elihu Root, think.
Q.-That is the same gentleman who
presided as permanent chairman over
the Republican convention of 1872? A
OF 1912.
Q-And he at that time was in your
Cabinet, was he not? An 1904?
Q.-Yes A.-No, think not.
Q.-He had been in your Cabinet
Ale had been in my Cabinet as Sec
rotary of War; | forget whether at
that time he was in my Cabinet as Sec
rotary of State or not, but either then
or about that time he entered into my
Cabinet as Secretary Of State.
Knew Mellen, of New Haven.
Odd you know Charles S. Mellen,
of New Haven. Al did.
Ole was a delegate from Con-
necticut. was he not? Al do not
know. had forgotten he was IN the
convention.
Q.-You have not forgotten he was
the president of the New York, New
Haven & Hartford Railroad Company
Al know that we'll ! remember that
well, but did not remember he was IN
the convention.
Odd you ever hear of Joseph &.
Cannon, of Danville? Al knew MN
well.
Q.-Well, he was a boss, was he not !
Ale was the boss Of the House OF
Representatives until he was over
thrown
Q.-Well. it took a long time TO over
throw him? A.-Yes, 1t took long
time to overthrow him.
Q-And he came back, did he not
A-Not as boss. &C.,
Ole came back to the House, did
he not A.-Yes.
O.-Was not he a boss in Congress
- In
Illinois? Al have heard 1t alleged
so.
Q-You have not the same intimate
acquaintance with his quality of boss
ship as you have of that concerning
william /. Ward, of Westchester
County? A.-No, sir; ! have not. |
know MIR. Ward, but not the other gen
tleman you have named; know only
of Cannon's district by hearsay.
Q-There is no doubt in your mind
that Mr.. Platt was a boss. is there
A-None whatever; but this was IN
1904. and think his boss-ship was then
passing. qua
Q.-Who was next boss, Mr. Odell?
A.-During Mr.. Odell's second term as
Governor | might say that Mr.. Odell
more nearly than any one else was
boss in New York State, although he
WAS not boss completely in the sense
that Mr.. Platt had been in the heyday
of his power.
Q.-Do you remember by what dele
gate. from what delegation, you were
placed in nomination for the Presi-
dency? A.-Governor Black. ! was
unanimously nominated; there was no
opposition.
Q.-You had taken care to see that
that would occur, had you not? Al
had not. | never moved my little
finger to get the nomination excepting
by nv public acts as President.
Q.-Had you never discussed your
nomination with any Of these people ?
Al told them, as | said openly. that
| would be glad to be nominated; If |
could be nominated on my record that
| should be pleased and if ! could not
get the nomination on my public rec
ord l did not want it.
Q.-Was not Mr.. Cox boss at Gin
cinnati? Al understand he was.
Q-Do you remember Mr. Foraker !
Al do. well.
Q.-Was he boss? AT that
time | should have said not.
Q.-When did he develop or emerge
from one state to the other and become
a boss? Al could not tell you, sir.
O-Do you know whether or not
there were any Federal offceholders in
the convention Of 1904? Al cannot
tell you.
His Acts as President.
O-I want to know whether or not
the President of the United States
took any steps to prevent Federal office
holders from acting as delegates IN the
convention which nominated you tor
the Presidency. Al do not remem-
Der doing so. There was no oppose
tion to me.
Q-You remember your objection in
regard to any subsequent Republican
convention that there were Federal
officeholders in that convention? A
Q.-You took that osition strongly
in 1912, did you not? Al did, but in
1908 ! notified the o:iiccholders that
they would be removed If they went
there to vote for me.
Q.-But you did not do that in 1904 ?
A.-No, in 1904, no. The question did
not come up.
Did you notify any of the Office
holders they would be removed II they
went to the convention in 1908 to vote
for Mr.. Taft? A.-No, or for any one
else except myself.
Q.-Who was the treasurer Of your
campaign? A.-Cornelius Bliss.
Odd you ever discuss with him
the list of contributors to the campaign
fund? Al did not.
Odd you ever see a list Of the
contributors to the campaign fund
Al did not.
Q.-Have you never seen it since
your election? Al never have.
Q-Is it not a'fact that you have
been charged by Mr.. Alton h. Parker
with being a beneficiary Of large finan-