The Richmond Virginian. (Richmond, Va.) 1910-1920, 1915-05-13

case being a fired and contemptious
SMILEY hal the job Of Illuminating the
Hutchinson blast. The witness started
off -sasy-hX- recalling that-he- had
known both Mr.. Barnes and Colonel
Roosevelt since 1898.
do You remember meeting Colo
mel Roosevelt In July. 1914. at the
Harvard Club in New York;" asked
Mr.. Barnum.
"Oh, yes" said Hutchinson quickly.
The appointment was made by Colo
mel Roosevelts secretary, Mr.. Har-
per. Colonel Roosevelt had asked me
to meet him at the Progressive head
quarters, and had declined to do so
II met him finally at the Harvard
Club on July Is. 1914"
And that was week before the
article complained off,"
/ Yes. II You call seven days a week
/ II was week before the libel"
! Tells Of Teddy Talk.
! Mr.. Hutchinson turned toward the
/ Jury as he emphasized the word
libel" Several OF the jurors smiled
and logged each other.
| Please state the conversation you
had with Colonel Roosevelt" prompt
ed Mr.. Barnum. stepping hack a few
feet so as not to interfere with tes-
timonal traffic. Mr.. Hutchinson
answered with swapping eyes:
We talked" he said. about the
probable nominations for governor
There was talk OF Colonel Roosevelt
himself being nominated by the Pro-
gresslve party. I told Colonel Roose-
Welt that the issues which had divided
the Republican party in 1912 were no
longer OF Importance. said that
nobody cared any longer about direct
Z ,,st a,sEz At. .
erendum, or the recall of judicial de-
cisions; that everybody was now con-
cerned about their own welfare and
Prosperity. told him that we ought
to get together.
He said that ne agreed with me.
He said that we ought TO get together.
/ He said In that event he could go after
/ President Wilson and tear him to
pieces Mr.. Barnes name was men
toned, but Colonel Roosevelt ia RI
that II he came back into the old
party he would not stand for Barnes,
that after what happened in Chicago
no party was big enough 10 hold him
and Barnes"
That's all said Mr. Barnum. VIE,
shrug and grin. John NJ. Bowers
aiertly cross-exsmined Mr.. Hutchin-
son.
How did you come TO make this
appointment with Colone Roosevelt Y'
he inquired
Was Pumping One r. n.
Il made II through Secretary Harp
er. who was al the Outlook ONCE.
was anxious to find out il Colonel
Roosevelt was going TO run for Gov
| ernor on the Progressive ticket"
What did you. mean when you
spoke of getting tog9ther?'" pur-
sued Mr.. Bowers
II meant that the divisions of the
Republican party as they were nl
1917 ought to get together again. /
told Colonel Roosevelt that the Pro
gressive party might as well die, and
that any way he was the whole Pro-
EressiVe party. He agreed and said
that he was The man to go after Will
son and tear him to pieces. He said,
You have got to have me. You
haven't any one else who can do it -
And you went TO see Mr.. Roose-
welt OF your own accord-nobody sent
you. Mr.. Barnes or any one else p
Il went OF my own accord. may
| have told somebody / was going
don't recall who. but l think | men
| toned it to Lafayette 3. Gleason"
And who" demanded Mr.. Bowers.
is Lafayette 3. Gleason?"
That politicians, who. like Mr..
. Hutchinson. has been active in the
/ councils of the Barnes side, was sit
ting at the Barnes table. He blushed
and ducked his head. Fame had not
remembered him In this multitude Of
counseiiors.
Secretary of the Senate Commit
tee Gleason" said Mr.. Hutchinson.
A Rcpubftcan Worker.
And now what is your position?'
asked Mr. Bowers.
Mr.. Hutchinson described himself
as an active organization employe.
manager Of speakers bureaus. and
the like
Are you speaker" inquired Mr.,
j Bow rs. , -. ..... ,,, ~. 70.
NO. but Pm e Judge of them" an
s@sr&d tha Witness, e.11. &.
Mr. Hutchinson" said Mr.. Bowers.
don't you remember that you COM
! menced the conversation by saying to
Colonel Roosevelt. We need your
help In the Republican party?"
No sir. don't remem Der sayins
that"
The second sensation of the after
noon. second in interest, although 1t
developed earlier than the Hutchin-
son episode. was the testimony OF
William J. Woilman. OF j. 8. Bachs
4 Co. the New York banking frm.
that William Loeb. Jr.. met Mr..
Barnes at luncheon In the Bachs
hankihg- honse In the spring of 1919.
and NOT in the, spring of -iSil, AZ Mr..
LoAb testified. The Daint was inanar-