The Birmingham age-herald., 1915-04-24

word from the report itself-additionai
 s5o,000 would you doubt that?" l q would not
 l "Did you ever hear of the so-callcd Hartman fund, amounting to about S240 | 900 raised by E. H. Hartman toward tha close of your campaign in 1904 for your | election to the presidency and for the purposes of the national committee? | q have heard explicitly that there was
 no such fund raised for my election for | the presidency
 Didn't the money expended towards the
 election of MT. Higgins as governor con- | tribute toward the election of the New York delegation to the electoral college | in your favor?
 q don't think it contributed to it at all. My election already was assured
 when that money was sent on. There was no doubt about my election. The | whole question -.
 l That is your opinion? l That is the opinion of everybody" Have you any idea as to the total of
 these subscriptions that I have asked
 you about?"
 | 'I can't say, but my memory is that MT. | Cortelyou told me that it was about l s, ,000, ,00O' ''
 Knew K. H. Hartman
 You knew E. H. Hartman pretty well,
 didn't you?"
 | 'T knew him we'll.
 | MT. Wins read a letter from Colonel Roosevelt to MT. Hartman. It read: 'aThe suggestion has come to me in Q
 roundabout way that you do not think it ! wise to come and see me in the closing
 weeks of the campaign; that you are re- | luctant to refuse as long as I have asked you Now, my dear sir. you and I are | practical men, and you are on the ground and know the conditions better than do. | If you think there is any danger to your visit that may cause trouble or If you l think there is anything special l should | be informed about or any matter in which l could give aid. why, of course. give
 up the visit for the time being and in a | few weeks perhaps before l write my
 message, I shall get you to come down to discuss certain governmental matters | not connected with the campaign
 Now do you mean to tell this jury that
 down to the present time you never knew l the names of the parties that contributed
 to your campaign fund in 19o4?'
 "Yes. I inquired definitely to know whether any contributions had been Of would be accepted and any obligation ex- pressed or implied as to anything what | ever being done in the way of legislative | or executive action because of such con | tributions. I received explicit assurances that no contribution would be accepted
 with any such obligation expressed or l implied
 Did you see any connection whatever
 between business and politics in contribu- tions of sloo00O, $5O,000, $20,00o?' asked MT. l Twins.
 NO more connection" replied the colonel, than there Is when those sama
 men contribute to the Y. M. c. A? I mention that because know that George | w. Perkins during the time that he was contributing so heavily to the campaign l funds has contributed much more lib. orally to the building of the Y M. C. I As, and the contribution from MT. Per- | kins of s25,000 might be considerably less I than a contribution of $25 from the sta.
 ton agent at Oyster Bay, and l should l feel as grateful to the one man for the 1 S25 as to the other man froh the $25,0Os l contribution, and I should be incapable of acting for either in any way because | of that contribution"
 | Did I understand you to say that the l S3, 600 GOO contributions to a campaign fund is to be placed in the same category when you are running for President of the uni- | ted States as the contributions for the | '. M. c. AZ"
 Yes precisely, and with no more hope | of reward I believe, for instance, that | Mir. Ryan's contribution was given in the same spirit to MT. Parker I don't think | it was given with any idea of personal 1 gain or any advantage
 1T am asking you whether or not you placed that contribution in the same cate | gory for instance as MT. Ryan's contribu- ton for the building of St. Joseph s
 church in New York city" | ''In his case, I have no question that 1t
 was done in the same spirit. MT. Ryan was very strongly opposed to me and
 wished to beat me. and believe he was | entirely sincere in his desire to do it." 1 Mir. Twins at that point questioned the witness upon statements made at various times while he was president to the ef- feet that under no consideration would he I be a candidate for the office again. The colonel readily admitted that he had made l all the statements. Colonel Roosevelt answered nearly 100 questions about the nomination of MT. Taft and his activity in securing 1t.