Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1915-10-13
Fight in Convention Over New
Form of Government Takes
Unexpected Turns

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were read before the Charter Conyen.
ton last night. The original charters
proposed by w. C. Achi and the Re.
search Club have been abandoned al
most entirely by the committee In
both majority and minority reports
and this makes II certain that the
speakers for the Civic Federation and
the Chamber Of Commerce, besides
the individual speakers who viii ap-
pear before the convention, will rep
resent q third force at work on the
convention.
From present indications ex-Goy.
ernor Frear and others will strongly
back the Research Club plans. very
much as they were originally propos-
ed. and this gives the work Of the
convention three directions, for Il Is
unquestionable that the Chamber Of
Commerce. Civic Federation and other
forces will rally many Of the members
OF the convention behind them
Tried Steam Roller.
The tirst conflict started when Da.
yid NJ. Kupihea tried 70 start the
steam roller going by moving the adop-
ton OF the majority report shortly AFT.
er the reading was completed by Lor-
rim Andrews
Chillingworth jumped 10 HIS feet
and registered an objection on q point
OF order
There Is no reason Why should
not be heard and will be heard on
this point shouted Kupihea In return
to Chillingworth.
.'co ahead, said Chillingworfh, 'the
more you talk the worse you get
The chair finally ruled that Kupihea
was out Of order, since the conven-
ton had just voted that action upon
the committee reports should be de.
layed until the report had been trans
lated into Hawaiian and distributed
to the Hawaiian delegates.
Francis ]. Green, presenting the
minority report. prefxed hts reading
with q short talk explaining the atti-
tude Of the minority and their objec-
tlons to such things as the ward sys-s
tenn In the midst OF HIS talk he was
cut short BY A. d. Castro, who remind
ed the chair that committee reports
must be read. Green then fled the
report formally.
Moved for aDiseharre.n
The storm Of the evening then
broke out when chillingworth rose to
move that q vote. OF thanks be ex.
tended to the committee OF is and
that they be discharged He sat down
with broad smile while Lorrin An
drews sprang to his feet and challeng-
ed the motion anxiously.
One Of the conventions recurrent
parliamentary rule tangies occupied
the next 80 minutes, and when the
storm had cleared away and Andrews
point been granted that the commit.
tee could not be discharged until the
report was formally before the conveH,
ton in printing, John II. Wise start.
ed the confusion again BY duplicating
Chillingw0rth's motion. He too, was
ruled down by the chair
The Chamber OF Commerce commu.
nication, asking that Its representa-
tives be heard before the convention
before final action was taken on the
charter reports or committees was
then read, and shortly after came the
request OF the Civic Federation that
there be q nlass meeting called Ct
which the federation could present
several speakers upon the charter
plans.
A big war started over these COM
munications. W. .. Smith, the paci-
FER Of the convention. moved that the
requests be granted. but the rest Of
the members had different views
After number OF speakers FOR the
minority had proposed that the con-
vention should hear the speakers by
passing into committee Of the whole,
Lorrin Andrews laade vigorous
speech Ii favor Of mass meeting In
Aala Park
Chillingworth was Immediately on
his feet with an objection.
Trust to Citizens.
aLook.. shouted Andrews, .'see how
afraid they are Of turning this matter
over to the citizens. l am not. am
willing to trust to their intelligence.
A certain portion OF the delegates |
received Andrews statement with |
loud applause. but Chillingworth |
threatened Andrews with voice and
raised finger for misrepresentation of |
the minority position.
In the midst Of these stormy objec-
tons to Andrews motion, Samuel Ke.l
iiinoi rose to one of the most incisiye |
talks OF the evening He pointed out
that II mass meetings were started
the convention would soon have to be
travelling over the length and breadth
of the island. = - I -.
Furthermore. he said, Il perceive |
that the real work Of the convention is |
only starting. It may be remembered |
that asked that all this public and |
private discussion OF the charters un-
der consideration be voiced before We
referred any matter to the committee.
As 1t now is the work OF the commit. |
tee viii probably be only beginning |
for strife. Il looks to me as though |
we would never get . charter" |
It was decided TO tell the Civic Fed.
Grafton and the Chamber of Com |
merce that then requests had been |
fled and that the convention would