Licking Valley courier. [volume] (West Liberty, Ky.) 19??-current, 1915-02-11
JOHN D., SR., AND
CARNEGIE TELL
VIEWS ON GIFTS
Former 0. KS Unionizing and
Would Have the Worker as
Partner.
BOTH GIVE AWAY FORTUNES
Declares He Believes Stockholders Of
a Corporation Are Responsible for
Its ActszzAndrew Carnegie
Bares His Soul.

bares HIS Soul.
New York, Feb. 8.--Both Andrew
Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller, Sr.,
the worlds two richest men, testified |
before the federal commission which
is inquiring into the causes for in.
dustrial unrest. "
In long statements defending their
philanthropic foundations As a public
benefit Mr. Rockefeller said he pre-
ferred seeing men get good wages
rather than charity and Mr.. Carnegie
told how to establish the millennium.
Each Giving Away Fortune.
Each multimillionaire related how
through benefactions to mankind he
was trying to get rid OF part of the
immense fortune he had amassed. Mr.
Carnegie proudly and enthusiastically
said his foun -ation and gifts already
amounted to $324,657, 1893.
"The work still goes bravely on"
said the ironmaster. II am, indeed,
a most fortunate man and think my
self in nothing else so happy as in a
soul remembering my dear friends, to
whom owe SO much"
After Mr.. Carnegie had settled him.
self In the witness chair and prepared
to read statement he had prepared
In advance he was asked what his
business was.
my business" he replied, "is to
do all the good in the world that /
can"
Tells Of His RuIes on Labor.
His statement ''as. in part. as fol-
lows:
Il never bought or sold shares on
the exchange; all nay Earrings were
-fzAal- -a>Geb bssetsrhs N RgfunecDsr'
airy for me to return to THAT calling,
i should not consider p4eN problem Of
labor as at all difficult. On the con-
trary, enjoyed conferences with our
men. We had one rule, come what
may: We would never think Of run.
ming our works with new men. Able.
sober, well-behaved workmen such as
ours were not to be picked up on
the streets and we wished no others.
We were very particular in regard
to drinking: First offense, men we're
excluded thirty days; second offense,
sixty days; third offense. we parted
company"
Mr.. Carne 10 said that he had had
only "one serious disaster with labor"
This was at the time OF the riot at
Homestead, Pa Mr.. Carnegie was
abroad at the time and when he heard
Of 1t, he wanted to return home, but
hiL partners requested him not to do
so.
Raises Wages 80 Per Cent.
Some Of the men at the works."
Mr.. Carnegie said, "cabled me: Kind
master, tell us what you want US to
do and we will co II fer you.'"
Wages were advanced 30 per cent
Mr.. Carnegie said. after that incident.
Labor and capital, he said. will
| soho udy rank as one,
At the conclusion OF Carnegie's tes-
timony John d. Rockefeller entered
the room and demanded to be heard
as a witness. He was placed on the
stand.
Mr.. Rockefeller, with more restraint
but equal satisfaction, explained how
his gifts, estimated at $3.50, ,oO0,O 1000, are
being diverted to public use.
Mr.. Rockefeller began reading a
statement, which he had prepared.
THE sole motive underlying the va.
rious foundations which l have estab.
lished has been the desire to devote a
portion Of my fortune to the service OF
my fellow men," he read. "The prln.
ciples have been fully set forth in the
two chapters from my book, Random
"Reminiscences which have already
been made a part Of the record OF
your commission"
Tells Of the Foundation.
81 regard the right to amend or re-
scind the respective charters OF the
several foundations which inheres In
the legislative bodies which granted
them as an entirely sufficient guar
anty against serious abuse of the
funds" he said. Furthermore, | have
such confidence in democracy that
believe 1t can better be left to the peo
pie and their representatives e
remedy evils when there is some tangi
BILE reason for believing they are i'm
pending rather than to restrict tn,
power for service in anticipation o
purely hypothetical danger"
As for educational institutions alter
ing their policies or form In order /,
get donations from the general educa
tion board, Mr.. Rockefeller said h
had never heard Of anythijy s of tn
kind"
Calls Stockholders Res slble.
AS to our foundation" !. said, "
don't think such things hayS ever haI
pened. AS to others. | do ndt know"
Regarding the responsibility Q
stockholders and directors fbr labO
conditions he said:
81 think the stockholders are r,
sponsible for the choice Of the bel
: men as directors. A large stockholdt
ordinarily would have more intiuenC
} with board Of directors than
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