The Washington times., 1915-05-18
DARROW SPEAKS FOR
VIOLENCE IN STRIKES
Defender Of Dynamiters Tells
Industrial Probers He Does
Not Think America Is Free.

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Moyer. Haywood, and Pettibone. and
representing labor in the anthracite
hnihe strike, he said.
Greets "Mother' Jones.
Mother" Jones was the first person
rockefeller encountered when he en-
tered the hearing room. She was
seanding In the aisle near the door.
How are you, 'Mother?' he in
duired cordially, extending his hand.
m all right" said Mother" Jones.
accepting the proffered hand and shak-
ing 1t. But why didn't you go to
colorado. as you told me you would?"
When Mother" Jones went to see
Rockefeller in New York after the Lud-
10" mine massacre she said he prom
ised her he would go out to Colorado
ana investigate conditions.
Il am going to Colorado soon" he
assured Mother" Jones.
You should have gone last January"
she comemnted dryly .
Believes In Strike Violence.
Clarence Darrow. Chicago attorney,
famous for his defense of Pettibone,
Meyer. and Haywood and the McNa-
maras, defended violence in labor
strikes before the commission today.
Should strikers be punished for
bloodshed in strike riots?" Commits
sioner Weinstock asked
suppose blood is shed and property
Is lost, but liberty is saved" Darrow
the one thing worth contending for,
and there has been little important
by bloodshed"
.'Do you believe in bloodshed?" Com
missioner Weinstock asked
Sometimes it is necessary. The
shsI hayes eo Gere not fseed without bleed blood
and would be clothed in hair instead
Of in wool.
I'VE have reached a point where a
change in the system must come. l
don't think we live in free coun-
critics. ~" '"''N We '"''' CIV i '''
"Freedom is a relative term. The
people of the United States are freer
than the people Of Russia and Ger
many, but they are not as free as
the people of Fngland. and nowhere
as near free as they We're 'f1fty years
ago
Successful Revolt All Plight.
Returning to the question of vio-
lenee. Darrow said that John Brown
and nineteen men defed the laws of
the United States Givernment and
won. "If success comes in these rev.
olutionS II IL dll TlpRt, D6Tro" dnQ
ed: If the revolution fails the indi-
vtdual takes the consequence"
Darrow believed In the boycott as a
labor weapon. concrete illustration
teacher was discharged through a boy
cott because her brother was a seal" "
Answering this, Darrow recalled the
rnobbinE. Of Germans in London and
this is wrong" Darrow said, but over
there. with the Lusitania in sight. I
might see complete justification.
Epigrammatice expressions by Darro~ In
replying to questions were punishment
is barbarous." there is a cause for
crime as we'll as for typhoid lawyers
are the most ignorant people in the
Sworldi;;". Sdei; .,n courts and juries love and
man to die on the >gallows without
adequate defense: the Doctor will oper-
ate to save the life of the poorest pa
tent The medical profession is ahead
of the legal profession.'S
Tells of His Fees.
Darrow was franker than other wit
nesses by telling the commission his
fees In three big labor cases For de-
Tending the McNamaras, barrow said
he received $4,000. "and then ] spent
It all defending myself from charges, ,"
he said.
For defending Mayor Haywood and
Petttbone he received $4,000. and he
got $4,000 in the anthracite coal cases.
total of $4,000 in three cases.
Public Opinion Labor's Hope.
VI Pd ic opinion. Darrow said, was
Mhe greatest hope of Improving la
hpr's condition. and to influence public
opinion the public imagination must
be reached.
The American people are the poor
est excuses for standing up tor what S
right. Roosevelt is an ideal one day
and Is stoned the next. Look al
Dewey. He captured the imagina tion
because he sank a few old tubs in
Manila Bay. without heroism. The
people got up a subscription and
when he decided it to his wife they al
went back on him"
Before concluding his testimony
parrow was asked by Mrs. J. Border
Hartman to define fair social SYs-
abolish private ownership of mines
forests, and railroads, and get the
land monopoly. Meantime womIc
labor unions until we saw how it
Darrow said he would abolish all
punishment and treat criminals as
hospital patients.
II don't believe that in twenty FIVE
years there will be any more prs-
ons." Darrow declared. The next
generation Will look on us as barbar-
ians for the way we have treated
what we call crime"
Darrow did not conclude his tcsti-
mony at the morning hearing.
Women "Near Rebellion
Disfranchisement of women, through
denial of the right to vote, was added
TO the causes of social unrest by Mrs
Crystal Eastman Benedict New York
writer and sociologist, in testimony be,
fore the commission.
Women are today on the point OF
rebellion" Mrs. Benedict told the com
mission late Yesterday. against the
slow machinery of justice. They &c
mand Federal action prohibiting tn,
present indefensible franchisemen
on the ground of sex.
"If the struggle of women for tht
vote lasts much longer. 1t will engendel
q bitterness between men and womer
which will take MANY years to over,
come. This spirit should not be per.
mitted to grow and spread, hui
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