New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-04-27

wouldn't make any impression on you
wouldn't affect your memory at all
AFTER sixteen years, during which
have had to do with billions of ex-
penditures. that item does not remain
in my mind.
(Mr. Barnum reads letter.
Q.-Whom do you mean when you say
that you believe you will leave Her
mann's few days "till we decide on
the man to take his place? Whom
does the word 1--WE" refer to? A.-The
confirming power, the state Senate.
Q.-Was Senator Plat member OF
the state Senate at that time? Ale
was the controlling power of the state
Senate.
Q.-Senator Plat at that time had
nothing to do with the nominating
power except by your consent. did he ?
A.-Except by my consent, no.
Q.-The legislators-Senators or As
semblymen had no powers Of appoint
ment whatever at that time, did they 7
A.-You are mixing up nominations
and appointments. The confirmation is
part of appointment. The form Is: |
nominate and. with the consent of the
Senate, do appoint. You have mixed up
nomination and appointment.
Q.-You had to take nobody's sug-
/ gestion unless you care to as to whom
you nominated, did you? Al did, if
| wanted TO have my nomination con-
/ frmed.
Q.-That Is, you had to be in ALI
ance with the invisible government So
called to get the nominations con-
/ frmed. A-To get the nominations
! confirmed / had to have the support of
| the Senate and the Senate was respon-
sible to Mr.. Platt's wishes.
Q-Do you recollect that Mr.. Frank
! Platt had participated to any extent in
/ the preparation Of the franchise tax
/ bill that finally became law? Al
| do not recollect that. | recollect the
reverse.
O.-You recollect that he was instru-
mental in preparing it? A.-That he
had a part in it.
Q.-And that it was prepared in his
/ Office? Do you remember that was the
fact? A.-You ask me for my mem
DRY?
Q.-Do you remember the bill that
| Mr.. Quigg handed to you, or talked
/ TO you about was with reference 20 the
/ tax law? Any memory is that Mr..
! Ouigg never handed me a bill about
| the franchise tax law. | don't think
that is the franchise tax we are talk
ing Of there.
O.-Was the civil service bill one
which you were greatly interested?
At was.
Q.-And had you requested the as
sistance Of Mr.. Platt TO get the bill
passed through the Senate? Al had;
Q.-And had you understood he had
rendered such assistance to you IN that
matter as he could? Ale originally
was against it. and then | found that
he had favored it heartily at the end
and ! was very much touched. Is 1t
proper for me to answer in that way?
Q. Most anything is proper. He did
help YOU to get the bill through the
Legislature. did he? A He did, and
he did it without my knowing that he
was going 20.
Q. And that was the occasion of
YOUR writing him this nice letter? A
OF my writing him that letter.
Not a Bad Boss.
O. At that time you didn't consider
him as a bad boss, did you? Al
didn't consider that action bad.
Was he, in your judgment, at
that time, Mr.. Roosevelt, any different
kind of a boss than Thurlow Weed, OF
whom you have spoken?
Mr.. Bowers objected to this ques-
ton, and was sustained.
O. when things were coming your
way they were all right? That was
true. was it not? Yes or no? When
things were coming your way then, II
was all right with anybody, whoever
: it happened to be? That is so, IS 1T
not? A.-You have got to let me
answer that question $50,
Q.-Well, with Mr.. Plat. We Will
confine ourselves to that. Whenever
/ he was doing things which you re-
/ quested, to aid you, these transactions
were always righteous? Is that so
/ A.-They always were when he AIDED
me. -, J..
Q. You never criticised Mr.. Plat
at such times. did you? A. never
criticised Mr.. Plat at any such times.
Plat Consulted on Message.
Mr.. Barnum read a letter in which
Mr.. Roosevelt told Senator Platt ne
/ had consulted with many persons about
his message.
O.-Will you tell me- if you please,
! who Mr.. Griggs was that you referred
TO in this letter? A. The Attorney
.
( Or have just seen the Nice-Pres-
4 ident and told Mr.. Griggs that, after
/ talking the matter over with you, | am
going to submit the part of my message
/ this year which deals with trusts to
/ him? A.-That is it.
Q.-"To look over, that is, after you
have seen it, my dear Senator" | was
/ going to ask you if Senator Plat was
} the first individual that you showed
! YOUR message TO after you had prepared
! it? A.-No; Mr.. jerks was the first
one
Odd you say, just a minute ago,
that Platt was the first one? Al said
/ ! showed it to Mr.. Platt before
showed it to Attorney General Grlggs.
O.-Then, there was just one lndl-
vidual that you showed The message to
the proposed message prior to the
/ time that you showed the message to
Mr.. Plat? A.-No. | think showed it
to President Hadley of Yale.
Q.-After it was prepared, VINO was
the first one? Al have forgotten.
/ cannot answer you as to which one |
saw before it was prepared and during
/ the course Of preparation
/ Q.-Wasn't Senator Platt one Of the
very first men that you showed 1t to
A.-One of the very first that ! showed
il to.
/ O.-And did the Senator make any
/ comments on your message and return
/ it TO you? A.-That ! cannot say.
/ Q-Will you say that he dld NOT
make some suggestions or comments
on it to YOU either by letter or other
wise? A.-No, won't say that.
State Constabulary Bill.
Q.-Now, were you in favor or OPP
posed to the State Constabulary bill
/ in the year 1899? Al favored it at
the beginning of the year.
/ O.-At the close of the year you
we're opposed to it? A Daring the