Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1915-04-24
THEY GIVE TO PARTY
SAME AS TO CHURCH


visible government Now this is from
your autobiography?
Mr.. WINS read an excerpt that had
20 do with invisible government and
publicity for campaign contributions
Did you ever mention invisible gov
eminent before your return from
Africa"
Il didn't use those words. But
referred TO the thing in message I
sent TO Congress In 1905"
Did Perry Belmont start the move
ment to require publication OF cam
paign contributions"
he might have. urged such
measure In Congress"
Had you until that time ever called
the attention OF the voters TO the dan
gers OF invisible government and the
necessity of publishing campaign ex-
penses?"
II think So"
II don, care what you think Did
you or did you not?"
II did"
When did Charles F. Murphy become
the nominal leader OF the Democratic
party in New York;"
He was not the nominal leader. He
became the actual leader after Mr..
Croker went 10 Europe. first In New
YORK and then throughout the State.
He became dominant"
FIRST SHOWED CONTROL
AT BUFFALO IN 1000
isn't /, fact he first showed his
control at the Buffalo convention OF
1862
That's my memory. can't be sure
OF H."
Well, now. while you were Gov
ernor. there was invisible government
YOU say. Why didn't you make an at
TACK then similar to the one you made
on Mr.. Barnes"
IF they had blocked the legislation
! wanted. 1 would have"
Mr.. WINS then requested the court
TO instruct the witness 10 answer cate
gorically, and no, go beyond and make
statements.
III the rules of law are observed and
this witness is treated as any other
witness" began Mr.. WINS
Justice Andrews raped with his
gavel. and said:
Mr.. WINS. this witness Is treated
the same as other witnesses won't
permit any such language here"
I apologize said Mr.. WINS, and
continued his cross-examination.
Did you confer with Mr.. Platt about
appointing Mr.. Hendricks as Commits
sioner of Public Works.
NO. not particularly. Senator Plat
himself offered Mr.. Hendricks the
place. He tPlat) showed a telegram
OF acceptance from Mr.. Hendricks"
AS the witness told this he laughed
and the spectators Joined in.
How many times in 1890 did YOU
see Mr.. Barnes alone?"
Il couldn't say. Many times"
Did you invite Mr. Barnes to the
White House7"
YES"
You did that in spite of his mis-
trust to the people and the invisible
empire?"
Yes"
WINS READS SENTENCE
FROM AUTOBIOGRAPHY
Mr. WINS read sentence from the
autobiography about Mr.. Platts most
efficient lieutenants being men of the
best character and the highest STANDING
in the community.
Did you include Mr. Barnes in tbesa
lieutenants In 1892"
No"
did you include him in that class in
1899 or 19o0?"
No"
III you did not so regard him why
did you consult and associate with
him?"
Because ] thought he was above the
average OF the politicians. believed
he might become n most useful citizen"
Did You discuss his moral Standards
with him?"
Il did. ! expressed my hopes to him."
so while you were In Albany you
were acting as a political monitor in
order to make him q good citizen?"
II tried to get every man to act
rightly. Most politicians had two ma
lures however. I regarded Mr. Barnes
as DR.. Jekyll and Mr.. Hyde. He
had two sides, a good and n bad one, as
other politicians had"
Mr. 1vins read letter written on