New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-07-13

matter not in evidence. then ?" stanch
field asked,
"Yes." admitted Dr. Flint
"Under the Bowling commitment,
went on Mr.. Stanchfeld, "Mr. Thav
was sent TO Mattcawan for manic de
pressive sanity, was he not?"
Eyes, but he did not have manic de
prcssive insanity" DR.. Flint said.
"What, do you say he was sent for {
disease he did not have" StanchfielC
said, and the doctor replied, yes"
$50 to keep him in Matteawan .yoy
changed the disease to paranoia ?
Stanchfield said.
at was my opinion he had paranoia.
Flint said.
when in the Thaw case was The
changed?" Justice Hendrick said.
I'VE will come 10 that later, your
honor Stanchfeld said. He ther
passed to the question of Thaw's de
lusions, which DR.. Flint said was 6
Characteristic of his mental disease
which he asserted was progressive anC
incurable.
He admitted there had been no mani.
festations Of these decisions on the
witness stand, but he argued that a
paranoiac could keep them hidden for
at least year if be wanted to.
"But you have heard that for year
and a half he led a sober, moral, social
/ life in New Hampshire-is that n
symptom of paranoia?" Stanchheld
said.
But DR.. Flint was not to be caught
mapping. That was absolutely a symp-
tom of paranoia, he said. This seemed
to revive Justice Hendricks interest in
/ the witness again.
"Has there been anything in his con-
( duct in court TO indicate to you as an
alienst that he had paranoia If you
didn't know the history of his case ~
! Justice Hendrick asked.
/ "He didn't show any symptoms OF
/ any form of paranoia here on the wit
ness stand, but think he is conceal
ing IT," DR.. Flint replied. "a paranoiac
can keep his decisions to himself for
months"
"Wel. here is case where he has
/ kept his delusions to himself for years
suppose he keeps them to himself
! forever?" Stanchtield said. What
/ them"
DR.. Flint wanted to enter into an ex-
PLANTATION, but the court told him he
/ could do that later when he was Mr..
/ Cooks witness again. The judge was
particularly interested in the statement
| that Flint had made a moment before
/ that Thaw to all appearances was sane
/ on the witness stand, although he had
( been put through a severe mental test
as it possible" he said. that he
was suffering from a form of insanity
at the first trial from which he has re-
covered?'
81 am not infallible. but believe he
has paranoia and that paranoia is in
durable" said Flint.
"If you didn't know his history would
you think him paranoiac from the in
dications that he has given here 7" the
court asked.
NO." replied Flint.
Then juror No. 7, whose name is
! Louis Cohn. arose and asked if he
could ask DR.. Flint a question, and
the court permitted him.
| "Can man be said to be laboring
under a deluson when he has facts
and figures, dates and names from
other people" he asked.
'He might have decisions about other
| things" was the answer Flint gave
"but not on those subjects"
In reply to Justice Hendricks ques-
tion he admitted he would not have a
delusion regarding things in whose ex-
istence he had been given reason to
believe by others.
When asked to compare his own
qualifications as an expert alienist with
those of the physicians Thaw called
he said his experience with the Grim
inal insane was greater than any OF
those, but he admitted that DR.. Mac
/ Donald, another state expert, ranked
with him.
Flint Not Bugbear Now.
Thaw made it ostentatiously appar-
ent that Dr.. Flint is nc longer a bug
bear to him. In previous trials he was
always nervous and spprehensive when
| Flint was on the stand, but not so yes
/ terday His absolute confidence that he
! will be set free seems to have lifted
] him above all the fears that haunted
| him in previous fights for his liberty
| He did not even seem interested IN DR..
! Flint yesterday. ..
/ While the doctor was giving his d.
rect testimony Thaw sat holding up be-
fore him, with arms spread wide apart,
n large automobile map, showing the
motor touring routes to San Francisco
He pointed out the lines of travel, con-
sulting now with his secretary and now
with members of his counsel.
When not engrossed with the map he
was busy looking over printed matter
about automobiles. He is absolutely
confident that before the week is out he
will be able to put his knowledge ia
practical use. In reply to question as
to what he was going to do II the de-
cision was in his favor he SAID:
Tf my lawyers leave me money
enough | am going to buy an automo,
bile and two days from now l Will STAR
on my trip to the San Francisco falr
| expect to stop for few days at Pitts
burgh en- route" all,
rs your mother going with ou" hi
was asked.
"She was going with me last spring
after the conspiracy trial, but since
then she has lost her brother. BESIDES
that. she could not stand the trip very
well, | will take one of these men here
with me-" indicating his staff Of coun
sci. detectives and secretary, but no
pointing out which one. -,
Glow about taking DR.. Flint" som'
one suggested. Thaw thought that was
a good joke. He laughed and replied;
81 don't think he can stand the triI
either. DR.. Flint and | had very
pleasant time together IN Whlt'
DR., Flint went on the witness stanc
after the noon recess. The morning nae
been taken up by readlng hNeIEH .'e'Di
Thaw's testimony at White Plalns II
1912 and a number of letters written by
Thaw.
Thaw an Old Study.
DR.. Flint, in beginning his testimony
under direct examination by Frank n
Cook, deputy Attorney General II
charge Of the states case, sad ne saw
Thaw the morning after he killed Stan
ford White. Thaw was eating hi.
breakfast in the Tombs, he said.
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