New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-11-21
United States Will BE Real Loser in
Present Conflict, He Declares
Defeat Would Bring Grave Cri.
sis for Kaiser or for Gear, but
Outcome of Present Struggle Is
Not Important.

spread to Russia, and the reaction on n.
action on the Kaiser. Do not forget the on,
or two million Russians who are now pr,
cners in Germany and are really taxing
course of study in self-government scientse
agriculture and general efficiency. When
these two million prisoners return to Russ,
they will unconsciously become school teach.
ers, and will be gerat factor in telling N.
Russian people what real Germany is
IF Russia should be defeated, her plisb,
would be even worse. A defeat for RUSS,
spells sure revolution for the Gar. You re.
member that the revolutonists obtained their
first foothold during the Russo japanese war.
and that the Gar made various promises a,
that time which he has not kept. From tia,
day to this the Russian revolutionists hsv.
been awaiting another opportunity. They be.
lieve that their time to strike has arrived. and
the government is apparently acting as Il il
also feared it.
THE discharge Of Grand Duke Nicholas bv
the Gar was a straw showing how the wind
is blowing But, assuming that il is a de.
batable question whether or not revolution
in Russia is now imminent, there is no doub,
that an ultimate revolution is inevitable II
Germany is clearly defeated, Emperor VIII.
lam and the military party Of Germany will
lose their power. and there will be similar
reaction in Russia; while if Russia is defeated
the same result will happen, only it will come
quicker and be more spectacular"
But you say, Mr.. Babson," interposed N.
interviewer, that if any country OF EUROPE
is defeated there surely will be a revolution
in that country, although you add that no
one country will be defeated Therefore, in
conclusion, let me ask you what are the pros.
poets Of revolution in Europe in case tn.
war is called off, as you seem to believe will
be the case, without a real defeat for any
cne2"
Well" said Mr.. Babson, 'I will tell you
just what think. really do not expect to see
any bloody revolutions in Europe after this
war, such as happened in France forty years
ago. On the other hand, do expect to see
bloodless revolutions in nearly all these coun.
tries. Personally, am great optmist on the
results of this war for the world as a whole
/ believe that it is going to teach the world the
advantages and disadvantages of democracy in
a way that it would be impossible to do in
times Of peace.
yes. in every country there will be revo
luton which will come out in favor Of the man
who has been in the trenches. There will be
revolutions everywhere, and no country can
escape. The only question Is, How far will
these revolutions extend2 Personally could
have my way l would have every country in
this war get a good licking. A universal ca
tastrophe would do Europe good Moreover,
am not so sure but that such catastrophe
would do our own country good, also. Yet
Europe has it we must share it with her. All
of the nations of the world are like tanks OF
water connected together with one general
pipe. The water cannot be raised in one with
out automatically rising in all, and the water
cannot be lowered in one without automadeal'
ly lowering 1t in all. The great lesson OF this
war will be the recognition that men are all
brothers one to another, not from any sene
mental point of view, but from truly eco
nomie and statistical point of view One can
not be harmed without all being harmed, what
ever the race, sex or class"