Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1915-02-06
Each Financier Denies That
Foundations Have Other
Purpose Than Good of HUI
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OIL MAGNATE FAV0RS
PARTNERSHIP WlTHL LABOR
Founder of Many Libraries Is
in RolIiCklng Mood and
Keeps Those Present in
Roar Of Laughter.
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New York, Feb. John d. Rookie.
Teller, ST., and Andrew Carnegie ties.
titled today before the federal com
mission on industrial relations. They
defended the foundations which they
have endowed with their wealth and
neither would say he believed that
the institutions constituted a menace
90 the religious, political or educu-
tional liberty of the people of the
United States A desire TO promote
the welfare of mankind, and that
alone. they said, prompted them to
establish the foundations which bear
th2ir nomes.
Widely different was the manner IN
which these two men faced the COM
mission and the varied audience,
which was composed largely of repre-
sentatives of labor, socialists, and in
dividualists and members of the In
dustrial. Workers Of the World. Mr.
Carnegie went TO the witness stand
from seat in the audience He de-
clined To sit while reading answers
TO a list of questions submitted by the
commission orfwhile he was being liz
terrogated. Mr.. Carnegie was in a
iovial mood. The answers he gave to
questions caused the audience and
commissioners to roar with laughter
more than once. Mr., Carnegie en-
joyed that. When he left the stand
he said he had not spent such a plea
SAINT afternoon in many years.
Carnegie Has Given S32f,657, 800.
In his testimony Mr.. Carnegie re-
vealed that up to the close of last year
his donations totaled $324,657, 1893,
His present business. he said, was to
90 all the good he could In this world
He sketched the growth of his steel
business and said he never had such
a good time In his life" as when he
was talking to his employees. The men
liked him, too when they call you
nogie. YOU know the boys are your
friends said he.
Mr. Carnegie invited the cpmmis-
sioners to visit the Carnegie institute
in Pittsburgh. Commissioner Walsh
informed him hat the commission
planned TO hold hearings in Pitts
burgh at a later date and that II
might accept his invitation.
Mr. Rookefeller's appearance as a
witness was a surprise. 1t was learn
ed after he left the stand that Ser
geant-at-arms Egan went yesterday TO
Focantico Hills, the Rockefeller coun-
lIN .tNldlts anu EHlft MN VIC 'is'N
questions that had been prepared for
him. He asked Mr.. Rockefeller
whether he would appear voluntarily
as a witness. Mr.. Rockefeller replied
he would be very glad to do so. He
promised TO appear Saturday morn
ing.
Mr.. Rockefeller Appears.
While Mr. Carnegie was on the
stand Mr.. Rockefeler's private secfe-
tary presented to Chairman Walsh a
statement containing answers TO the
questions submitted to Mr.. Rockefel-
Ter and said that his employer was
outside and that If the answers did
not suffice he would like to be put
on the witness stand Immediately. tie
was asked to wait in room used by
the commissioners until Mr.. Carnegie
had concluded.
Mr.. Rockefeller was assisted to the
witness stand by members Of his per
sonal staff Seating himself with
much difficulty he leaned on y little
table i'm front OF him and looked at
the audience When he started 70
read his answers his voice was scarce
Is audible. After he had finished mis-
statement he folded his hands and
looked inquiringly at the commission
ers Mr. Rockefeller appeared to have
aged considerably since he last gave
testimony in public. He spoke very
slowly and calmly.
He said his sole motive was to de-
vote a portion of his fortune TO the
services of his fellow men and that
he regarded the right to rescind the
charters of the foundations as snttl-
cient guarantee against abuse OF me
funds. lie told about his meeting
with j. f. Welborn, president Of the
Colorado Fuel a. Iron Co., and w. H.
Mackenzie King at a time when there
was labor trouble in Colorado. lie
answered all the questions that mad
been asked him.
All should Have Same Right.
lie told how he directed his busl-
ness enterprises and the part he play
ed in the administration OF the foun-
dations. lie said he would accord all
men the right 10 organize, working
men and business men as we'll. pro-
vding they kept within their proper
limitations in respect to the law and
to safeguarding the general interests
of the public
Mr. Rockefeller said he 'would be
happy TO surrender his holdings,
either in whole or IN part and let
the workers have a voice in the board
of directors Just as all other stock
holders do, thus giving them some Of
the profits of their labor He would
be very happy also, he said. TO see the
workers be his partners in business
AS for the $tO0. goo he had
given to the Rockefeller foundation
reverting to himself or his heirS IN
the event of the legislature rescind-
ing the charter of the foundation. MT
Rockefeller said he had never al
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