The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-10-29
Wilson Will Send Two New
Notes Calling for a
BackdOwn.
PACKERS DATA LEAD
TO STRONGER ACTION

the British Government the statement
was made in responsible quarters that
the President will soon despatch two
notes to London calling upon Great Brit
ain 10 withdraw from the position IL has
assumed in the controversy.
The first one Of these notes will pro-
tes, against the action of the British
priae court In condemnlng the cargoes
Of four vessels on the presumption that
they were intended for use in Germany.
The second note will call for the re-
lease of the twcnty-nine vessels which
have been seized but which have not
been thrown into the prize court.
A, the conference with the President
Secretary Lansing submitted TO him a
brief resume of the situation in the
packers cases. This resume was based
on reports made 10 the state Depart
ment during the last few days by AL
ired t. Crion, general counsel for Ar
mour a Co.. who has just returned from
London. where he represented the pack
ers In the controversy, and also on re-
ports from American officials In Lon
don and Copenhagen.
The Point At Issue.
According to the Administrations
viewpoint the facts In the packers cases
are not In question or Ia dispute. The
calef question Is whether or not Great
Britain can prevent the packers, as we'll
as al, otaer American exporting inter-
0ts. from carrying ON their trade VITA
neutral European countries.
II i the packers conte ion, and also
The contention of the Administration,
that Great Britain in the prize cour:
decision displayed determination 40 set
aside al, International law In favor ~
Its policy to s;arve out both the civ.l
and military population of Germany.
To make the starving policy effective.
The packers contend-and tn Admin..-
;ra;ion agrees with them-that Great
Britain is determined to prevent neu-
trails from trading with one another in
articles of conditional contraband on
The presumption that .uch articles
nigh; reach the enemy country in some
manner.
Mr.. Urion. after his conference with
State Department officials to-day, male
h first public statement on the situa-
ton since he returned from London.
1t Is no longer a question as 10 COM
p,nsatiou." he said. 1t H. question of
the principles governing the rights OF
neutral nations to carry on their con.-
m,rce while other nations may be en-
gagged in war, The packers have 40
fear that they will not be compensated
for tho cargoes which have been seized.
What they do fear, however, Is that
tulY war may continue for several years
AID that unless a most vigorous protest
is made t,ey will not be able to carry
o. their trade without unnecessary re-
saictions during that time.
Demand of the Packers.
"What We want. and what ! believe
the Administration will do its best TO
se. for us, Is the assurance from Great
Britain that our trade with neutral
countries can go forth in the future AS
|; d!d in the past before this war began.
we do not feel and we do no. con-
cede that the cases are ones FOR arbitra-
ton Either We are right or we are
" ong and We want our country TO say
that we are right and then insist upon
tae preservation Of our rights.
The time has come. II appears TO me
wen the United States must say TO the
world whether the principles OF inter
national law are to stand unassailed OF
whether the Orders in Council OF The
British Government are TO regulate all
neutral trade In lieu OF the ac-
cepted international law. These Orders
n council We regard as nothing more
or ,ess than municipal law. not appl''
Gable to the questions involved in the
seizures Of our cargoes.'
\, one time the British Government
srd the packers nearly reached "A se,tle-
n"nt on the basis that the price TO be
PAID ny Great Britain for the careoes
should ne that which they would brine
al their original destination. Copen-
hagen. and that the packers would agree
NJ - ship more than normal amount
o. .h'.r products TO the neutral countries
II he future.
When Mr.. J'rion indicated his willing
ncss to accept these terms Great Britain
then proposed that instead Of giving the
destination price IL would give the chi
cago price II also insisted that the
Packers reimburse Danish purchasers Tor
more than t3,0O0,000 worth OF goods
which had been ordered by them and
paid for
f made tho additional demand that
they TAX" care Of all claims OF the own
t"' Of the boats for damages against
Great Britain Incidental to their seizure
Interview with Carson.
IT, discussing these demands Mr.. Urion
tsd 'O.uight;
We declined absolutely to accept
Vice., SIR Edward Carson came to me
md said, Mr.. I'rion, we cannot agree
rI."Ss our agreement rs final with re-
spe"' 10 all interests involved. We can
hot control every one interested IN this
taS' and YOU must
~ sald 10 him: You mean that we
.ft.,pnt IN control he s,apIi "
Ian buyers and ship owners"
III" said Yes
~ then replied that We could not dc
IT, Had Great Britain settled the case
'h"n f. would have saved at least 81
90" 90" A. ! have said before. we ex-
perl eventually TO get our money In this
case but what we want now II a strict
hf'W'luu Of our rights TO trade and COM
mrr"e which will he recognized and
tdh"rod to by Great Britain
u u, probable that the American note
70 Great Britain, nov "n route ny spccia
Messenger, will be published early next
N''k. os-ibly on Monday.
Prompt publication Of the note is de-
t'l'd not only by the State department
bu' ASA by the British That one
th""' Of the note will he 10 draw the
W" Governments step nearer to q
settlement OF the trade controversies
H arbitrstion is the belief here. The
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