New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-05-15

Then was II your view In 1911 ;? he
asked after one OF them, that Re-
prlhcan or q Democrat who becomes
ar insurccnt confesses that he has oh
tanned his nomination and election
under false pretonces
81 certainly believed It then and do
now" was the reply.
lie came as an agent Of Thomas
Mott Osborne 10 see If could not be
induced 90 get the Republican leglsIa,,
tors 10 vote for Mr.. Carlisle for United
states Senator" said MIR. Barnes. ex-
rIaini7r the visit of Senator Elon K.
Brown, regarding which the latter tes-
tilted.
Keeps His Diary Dark.
With all his art counsel for the de-
fence tried to get the witness tangl6d
I'm on his assertions that he did not
talk 10 Governor Roosevelt frequently
in 1899 and 1900 on political and legs
ietive matters. Mr.. Bowers practically
dared him to produce his diary, which
was limited al early in the trial. lie
said he kept political appointments IN
IT, but he made no offer TO reveal It's
contents 20 the jury.
Anthony " Brady, Mr.. Barnes SAID
had nut out q lot of money n the Dem
ocratic fight i'm Albany IN 1898 because
he was particularly interested IN the
reelection Of Senator Edward Murphy
ir. Aside from the fact that Mr. Brady
owned thirty shares Of Tine journal
stock and $1,000 worth Of bonds, he
j had never had any dealings with nm.
Earlier in the day Mr. Barnes. refer
ring to the testimony OF Royal W.
France. who talked with him about d.
had expressed the opinion that they
were subversive OF party organization,
which was necessary for the MAIN
tenance Of the American foIm Of gov
erUment.
Describing his meeting with Colonel
Roosevelt and William /. Ward at tie
Manhattan Hotel or August 10, 1910,
following the meeting Of the state COM
mittee which had chosen Nice-Pres-
ident sherman for temporary chairman
of the coming convention, Mr.. Barnes
said:
"Mr. Roosevelt told me that I took
the direct primaries entirely too Sc
riously; that 1t was not serious mat
ter at all. | replied that he was out
Of the country for fifteen months and
that we-mcaning the legislators, the
Republican State Committee and others
had gone through with the pro-
gramme. and that we intended TO fight
out rhe matter at the state convention,
that we intended to make a clear-cut
issue so that we would know just where
we stood once for all. | told him that
the theory was not in accordance with
: the platform the party had adopted in
1908, which distinctly declared for the
preservation of the convention system
"Mr. Roosevelt then stated that hi
did not understand my action Of tina
morning in voting for Mr.. Sherman az
NY preference for temporary chairman
He said he thought ! should supper
him for the position. told him tina
! did not do so because | was not entire
~ clear as 20 what his ideas were. al
| had read his Ossawotomie speech. II
which he put forth his doctrine Of new
nationaiiSm, and that could not unde
the circumstances vote for him TO
temporary chairman. Mr.. Roosevelt
made some references TO Presiden
Taft, but they are not material"
Says Roosevelt TOOK Lincoln Letter
After describing how Colonel Roose
welt dominated the state convention
that followed both as temporary chair
man and head of the Committee oil
Platform Mr.. Barnes was brought dow
to his election as state chairman OF
January p, 1911. Then he was aske
about the Lindon dinner Of the Re
publican Club, which was the last tim
he ever spoke TO the Colonel.
"Dr Gunsaulus. of Chicago, made tn
main speech of the evening" said Nh
Barnes. 81 had a typewriter copy of
letter President Lincoln had sent {
Thurlow Weed, as | expected to use
in my speech if called upon. ! shove
il 10 Dr.. Gunsaulus. MIR. Roosevelt
took il out of my hand
"Did you ask him 10 incorporate
in his speech ,"
81 did not. lie said it was most in
teresting letter. and he would like {
show il TO DR.. Abbott. Then he put /
in his pocket
"Do YOU know what the newspaper
said about il the next morning. aske
Mr.. Wins, and when objection was mad
By Mr. Bowers, Mr.. WINS said he eX
pected 10 show that Mr.. Roosevelt d.
not hand the letter to Mr.. Abbott, bu
gave il out to the newspapers, and h
believed this action should be intro
duced es bearing on the credlbility o
the defendant.
"Oh." said Justice Andrews, with
j
Even suppose you claim that Mr.. RoOse
welt stole the letter and that he forge,
several sentences 70 it and then sold !
10 The New York Tribune, you could no
prove lack of credibility by this wit
ness
Asked 10 tell in his own way tn
action he contemplated at the latte
end of the Senatorial situation Nj
Barnes said;
81 felt as chairman OF the Stat
Committee it would be wise and prope
for me 10 endeavor to do what | coul'
10 bring about the election Of Sen
ator who would be an embarrassment
10 the Democratic party.
II asked Mr.. Stetson TO come TO Al
bany. lie brought list Of four name
which Franklin d. Roosevelt and 9th
ers had given him. ! said would b.
perfectly willing TO submit the name
Z Of Thomas Mott Osborne and John j
keenan, to the Republican members 0
the Legislature.
81 then sent for Mr.. Bracket az