The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-10-23
KIWATANDS SMITH
SAY NOTHING; IRISH
CLUB ALSO SILENT
Statement Being Prepared by
Lawyer, According to
Secretary.
A. A. L. UNDECIDED AS
TO ITS FURTHER ACTION

Little was talked OF In athletic circles
yesterday except the ruling Of the regis-
tration committee Of tho Metropolitan
Association on Thursday night which
placed Abel r. Nviat. Irish American
A. c., and Harry ]. Smith. Bronx
Church House. outside the pale Of anna
tsurism for demanding expense money.
money" evil has been recognized as a
detrimental factor by the officials who
have the welfare OF amateur track and
held sport at heart. There was therefore
a feeling of elation in offiSal quarters
that at last two men had been Caught
with the goods"
Neither Kiviat nor Smith had any
thing to say yesterday on the finding Of
tho committee. and the promised state
ment Of the Irish American A. c. was
not forthcoming. John F. Conway. sec
Rotary Of the club. said that the coun-
sel OF the club was preparing a state
ment and that IL would be ready to-day
or tomorrow. The many exceptions to
the order Of proceedings at the investi-
CATION and the protest against the con-
tinuance OF the Case on Thursday night
IN the absence Of John T. Dooling leads
to the belief thai the Irish American A.
c. liz prepared TO appeal the case to the
board OF managers Of the Metropolitan
Association OF the A. A. L.. Notice Of
such appeal had not been given to Pres
ident Ruben up TO the time the A. A.
U. Offices closed last night.
In case Of an appeal the affair would
drag along for several months until the
members of the board voted by mail or
decided the issue at the first Of the
quarterly meetings, which % fall on
a date in December. The actual charges
against Kiviat and Smith relating TO tho
demand for expense money to the games
held last September, In which they did
not compete and therefore received no
actual cash, is considered by the rank
and file of athletes as OF less general inn
portance than the conditions disclosed by
the corroborative evidence relating TO
the doings in 1912.
The positive testimony OF Campbell
and Livingston to the effect that $125
was paid to the coach Of the Irish Amer
lean A. c. for the appearance of the
club team in the relay race at the games
Of Company d. Second Infantry. at Troy
has not been contradicted. A man prom
inently identified with amateur sport
oalu ldSt HlEHt una irrespective OF the
Justice OF the verdict against kivtat
and Smith this matter should be cleared
up n that In his opinion only one Of
two courses was open to the Irish Amer
lean A. Ca statement from the coach
that he did not receive the money or
that II ne did he did not hand II over
10 the athletes named by Campbell as
running on the team. Failing this
method OF absolving the men and
thn club th. only nflar nntrsa 60 Snr fha
Irish American A. e. to issue a state
nent that the competition in question
was not countenanced by the officers Of
the organization and that the club re-
gretted the incident
As a result OF the testimony presented
Chairman Mathews OF the registration
committee said yesterday that as soon
as possible he would call the committee
together 10 consider the cases of Harry
Gissing and Drew Valentine. both Of
whom were named as competing on the
sl25 relay team. These men have not
competed for some time and II Is
rumored that they are through with
amateur athletics. yet both hold regis
tration cards emitting them to compete
n they so desire. Valentines card en-
tends until January . and the date for
the expiration of Gissing's is January
20 next.
II was stated last night that the off,
Gals Of the Irish American A.. e. were
In possession of a statement from Father
Gallant OF Troy that contradicted the
statement read at the investigation that
he had seen s25 handed over to Kiviat
for running IN the mile race at the
Mount Carmel games OF September 8,
1919. This. il was said. might be used
as grounds for an appeal to the board
OF managers of the Metropolitan Asso-
citation.
What action would be taken in regard
to the officials OF the upstate district
who admitted knowledge of the peccs-
dilloes of the New York athletes. could
not be learned yesterday. President
Ruben OF the Metropolitan Association
stated that he would take no action
At present. He said that Livingston
Still is a. commissioners. and that. though
Eaton had sent in "A RESIGNATION. II had
rot been acted on. Chairman Mathews
OF the registration committee expressed
his personal opinion that the men who
lad come forward even at a late date
% Npose the appearance money graft
should be retained in office II they de-
-l.cl to stay. This would indicate that
Company D.. which ran the meet in 1912
Il nhich tie costly relay rnce was run,
would receive a sanction for further
games when applied for.