South Bend news-times. (South Bend, Ind.) 1913-1938, 1915-02-06
TWO Of WORLDS
RICHEST MEN on
WITNESS STAND
Rockefeller and Carnegie Ap-
pear as Witnesses at Hear
ing - latter Has Crowd
Laughing With Him.


NEW YORK. Feb. e.-Andrew car
negie and John d. Rockefeller. ST.. the
worlds two richest men-testided
Friday before the federal commission
which is inquiring into the causes for
Industrial unrest.
Called 20 the stand as Morris Hill
quit. a socialist leader concluded VI.
Carnegie mounted the witness chair.
His snow white hair was towsled but
the beard had been carefully trim
med. There was a rudy glow OF health
in his fun but wrinkled face and
his eyes twinkled as he bowed form
ally TO Commissioner Walsh. On the
great crowd or spectators he smiled
benoveIently. He carried in his hand
a folded manuscript. Mr.. Carnegie
was in great good humOr. He stood
throughout the reading Of his formal
statement. His voice was clear and
firm. He gesticulated frequently and
occasionally pounded the table in
front Of him to emphasize his points.
Mr.. Carnegie was before the COM
mission about an hour. The laugh
ter following his final reply had bare
~ subsidized when a rear door opened
and tall. brOadshOuldered, angular
man stalked out.
Mr.. John ID. Rockefeller take the
stand" said Chairman Walsh.
Assisted To Stand.
Swaying slightly, the master Of
standard oil was assisted TO the wit
ness stand by Starr j. Murphy, his
personal counsel. His long, clean
shaver face was slightly pallid. His
lips were tightly compressed. His
eyes swept rapidly over the room and
finally lighted upon the seven COM
missioners. TO whom he bowed for
mally. Mr.. Rockefeller was stOlid
where Mr.. Carnegie had been ami
mated and agile. He did not smile
once throughout the three-quarters of
an hour that ne remained on the wit
ness stand He remained seated. His
voice was thin and nervous at the
start but gained in volume as he pro-
ceeded. His hands trembled slightly
and he had difficulty all through in
keeping his gOld-rimmed glasses on
his nose. He was stately and defer
entail where Mr.. Carnegie had been
genial and friendly He was slow. de-
hberate and weighed his every word.
BY actual count cir. ROckefeller's an
words per minute.
High spots in Mr.. Carnegie's testi-
mOny follows:
Il look back upon the conferences
with my employees as the chief JOY of
my life. L knew all by name. Be
hind my back they called mo Andy
1 liked the name. never liked to
be called Andrew or Mr.. Carnegie.
There was no sympathy in that rela-
ton If you want 10 get on with your
men have them call you Andy"
Il don't care a fig what the
young men and women I aid. think
about the future. Ny duty is with
this life. Future Will be all right if
you obey the voice within"
Great Triumph of Age.
"One OF the greatest triumps of
our age is the advancement of the
position and interests of our woman
kind"
we had one rule as to labor
come what may. we would never
think Of running our works with new
men. Able. sober, we'll behaved work
men-total abstainers such as ours
were are not To be picked up on the
streets and we wished no others. Wei
were particular as TO drinking; first
onense, men were excluded for 80
days; second offense. 60 days: third
onense. we parted company"
one or TWO of our partners con-
sidered me foolish in always yielding
TO labor. I am satisfied that for
every dollar so spent we had entirely
ample reward Frankly, / consider
that folly one Of my best virtues"
we shall one day all recognize
capital, labor and business as three |
legged stool, each necessary for the
other-neither first, second or third in
rank; all equal That is to be the So
luton OF the problem of capital and
labor"
Rockefeller Called.
The calling of Rockefeller swept
over the audience like an electric |
spark There had been no previous
intimation that he was 20 be a witness.
Thursday afternoon Chairman Walsh
sent messenger 10 the senior Rock
efeller with q series of questions he ]
desired answered, and request that 0
Mr.. Rockefeller appear before the !
commission at 10 o'clock Saturday
morning. At noon Friday Mr. Heydt !
secretary to Rockefeller. explain |
ed to Mr.. Walsh that the oil master |
was In the city and would be glad TO [
be called this afternoon Walsh agreed /
and Mr.. Rockefeller appeared when /
the assembly room was damned. 4 |