Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1915-01-27
J. D. Rockefeller, Jr., Believes
1t Confined to Stated Phil
anthropic Purposes.
ON STAND AGAIN TODAY
AT NEW YORK HEARING
Cordially Greets Mrs. Bell Zilber-
man. Socialist, Whom He Had
Arrested Last Summer.

NEW YORK, January 27.-The in
quiry being conducted here by the fed
eral commission on industrial relations
into the causes of Unemployment, in
dustrial unrest and the objects of phil
anthropic foundations was resumed to-
day with John ID. Rockefeller, jr,
again on the witness stand.
The possibility that the great philan-
thropic foundations with their immense
resources might seek to dominate the
churches. schools and people of the
south. 'aS the German nliltarist idea
has done since 1870" was suggested to
Mr.. Rockefeller. Such an effort, Mr..
Rockefeller replied. never would be
made. because in the first place the
people of the United States would never
tolerate tuch a thing, and. secondly,
the foundations had no such idea. Its
sole purpose. he said, was to brlng
about better conditions.
Mrs. Belle alderman, who was ar
rested last summer in the Standard Oil
building at &c Broadway while taking
part in the so-called mourners' parade.
as a protest by the Industrial Workers
of the World against the shooting of
miners at Ludlow, greeted Mr.. Rocke-
feller when he reached the city hall.
where the hearings are held. Yesterday
she said she "forgave Mr.. Rockefeller"
for having her arrested. Today she
brought him "a message of good will
MIR. Rockefeller shook hands and
chatted with her for several minutes.
Products of Separate Glasses.
We are products of two separate
classes" Mrs. Zilberman said. You
represent the capitalistic class. while 1
am socialist. There is struggle on
between those classes
Yes. unfortunately" replied MIR. Rock
efeller. There ought to be some
ground upon which we can meet and
come to a better understanding with
each other.
Il don't believe philanthropy will
ever bring US together, Mrs. Zilber-
man replied. There will have to be
some compromise between the classes
Thinks Foundation Limited.
On the witness stand Mr.. Rockefeller
said he did not believe the Rockefeller
Foundation would ever, or could, with
in the terms of it's charter, participate
in politics, the defense of trusts or any
thing other than it's stated philan-
thropic purposes. He did not believe
the powers of the foundation were un
limited.
Gould it circulate party PLATFORM ?'
asked Chairman w aiSn
mo such thing has ever been thought
Of" the witness replied. Certainly no
such thing would ever be attempted"
Under it's charter, might not your
foundation circulate editorials, criti-
cisms of the government or the church.
es? Might it not buy a chain of stores.
organize a real estate company or con-
duct propaganda in favor of trade
unions or workmen's compensation"
Mr.. Rockefeller thought the founda-
I
not considered the question. he said.
Might Circulate Speech.
Chairman Walsh cited hypothetical
case in which the foundation might
desire to have circulated a speech of
W. L. Mackenzie King opposing Ger
tain suggestions which might be made
by Frank V. Hayes of the United Mine
Workers of America. Mr.. Walsh asked
if the funds of the foundation could be
used to circulate Mr.. Kings speech.
Mr.. Rockefeller thought they could be.
There was no dangeI the witness
thought, in the possibility that one
hundred years from now the directors
of the foundation might not be men
of the same high standards and ideals
as the present directors.
He was asked whether he had objec
tons to a court of last resort" con-
sisting of the President of the United
States, the Governor of New York and
the presidents of several universities
such court having the power of veto
over the Rockefeller Foundation Mr.
Rockefeller said he had none.
Chairman Walsh read the terms OF
the deed of gift transferring 100000
O00 from Rockefeller, Sr.. to the foun-
Jation. They stated that s2,000.0oO Il
year should he set aside out of the
income for the personal bcnefactions
of Mr. Rockefeller, Sr., and that the
remainder should be turned into the
general treasury of the foundation. The
total income of the foundation last
year, the witness said, was IS, J2, ,I61.