Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1915-04-24

Yes"
Did MI Hm go 10 the United
states senate"
''lae did"
Do sou remember when he re-
ltredg"
Il think Il was in lSsS.'
Do you know he got oui OF politics
IN This state after he retired from
1.-THE scnateg"
mo. My understanding Is directly
Ifhe contrary'
No Rcferencc 10 Barnes.
In chapter &, did you refer TO MT
Barnes"
'No He was not then OF the same
Importance as MT. Platt and MI.
l0Dell fiowcVor when ] published
lmy autobiography In 1919. } Thought
the same Of Mr. Barnes as ! ara when
wrote The article complained oi
here
why did You do that
u did not want to make any ma
licious attack on Mr.. Barnes. | re-
fused TO attack any man IN my an-
liObiography thatsI could help, IN my
statement j wanted TO appeal TO the
lvoters Of New York state.
since this action was begun have
you referred to your autobiography
Il think / have.
"Do you know yonr language or
1.-THE stand and in your biography mas
al times been identicalG'
4 don't know. ] don't think that y
1.-THE case. 1t might be.
In your statement YOU refer to in-
visible government Now this is from
lyour autobiography
81 Mir. WINS read an excerpt that hau
to do with invisible government ano
\ llpuhlicity for campaign contributions
Campaign Contributions
Did Perry Belmont start INC
movement To require publication OF
lcampaign contributions2'
"Hle might have l urecd such =
- measure in congress.
/. Had you. until that time, ever
lcaued the attention Of the voters 70
T" 1.-The dangers of invisible government
N land the necessity Of publishing cam
: lpaien expenses ?"
ei 4 did"
n did you officially mention cam
n ipaign expenses and pooheiN 'eiof'
% goSg''
Z. I'm have to refresh my memory
eion that from my messages.
a when did Charles +. Murphy be
u come the nominal leader Of th'
: democratic party in New YORK
/, HE was not the nominal leader
a He became the actual leader after
n Mr.. Croker went to Europe. hrst u
= New York and then throughout th'
n lstate. He became dominant.
,s Don't YOU know there was a ui
= lumvirate IN control of Tamman'
IS lHan?"
~ There was a fight in which seNers
n ipersons. including MIR, "FingeN iWh
"a liam ~ Conners of Buffalo, Wer'
q lconcerned. I don't know which siu'
,e he was on. ] just heard OF u.
4 well. now, while YOU were soy
y Iernor there was an invisible govern
4. Iment. YOU say. Why didn't YOU max
= Ian attack then, similar To the one No'
made on MIR. Barnes 2
N they had blocked the legisla
ltion 1 wanted, ] would nave
"a Court Rebukes Attorney.
u Mir Twins then asked the court Z
rt tlnstruct the witness that he answe
n leategorioaliv and not go beyond an
u make statements.
=. -If the rules Of law are observe
NJ land this witness Is treated MS IN
~ tother witness" began Mr.. WINS.
e. Justice Andrews raped with n
: igaVcl and said;
Mr. lN10S. llllS WINES - NtNNN%
ns the same as other witnesses. ! Won
hermit anv such language here.
e II apologize" said MIR. Ivins, an
rd teontinned his ross-examination.
a. "Did YOU ever give any puhlicit
10 10 the fact that you, Mr.. Piatt an
&c Mr.. O,Dell conferred over successo
q for Louis Payne?'
II did not The newspapers did,
az .Did you confer with MIR. Pla
a about appointing Mr.. Hendricks
a commissioner of public works
Nv mot particularly. senator PA
NJ himself offered Mr.. Hendricks u
Iplace. He tPlat) showed a telegra'
lof acceptance from Mr.. Hendricks
Il. AS the witness told this. he iausI
i'm led, and the spectators joined IN
ng Invited Barnes 20 White House.
lie "Did You invite Mr. Barnes to q
ne IWhite House in washington?
Eyes"
nd "You did that in spite Of his mi
re TRUST to the people and the inVlsip
~, empire?"
at Mr. wins read a sentence from Il
tautobiography about Mr.. platts mo
eu efficient leutcnants being men
ar the highest standing in the comm
ne nifty. M parnoa
ei these lieutenants in 1887
~ NO
IN "Did you include him In that ella
~ lin 1899 or 1902
eso NO"
iys "If you did not so regard him, WI
EN- did you consult and associate WI
ihim?"
a because I thought he was abo
zen 1.-THE average of the run of politician
ere ! believed he might become mo
to useful citizen"
lis "Did you discuss his moral stan
at lards with himY'
IN Il did. | expressed my hopes
OF him"
mes $50 while you We're in Albany ~
ea- lwere acting as a political monitor
en- Iorder to make him u good citizeh
ars Two Sides 60 PIaintiff.
use II tried to get every man 70
Iot- rightly. Most politicians mad two y
ster lures. / regarded Mr.. Barnes az
lDr JelSylI and Mr. Hyde. lie nj
urt two sides, good and bad one.
yer, iother politicians had.
me Mr. wins read letter written
her IWhite House stationery by Color
M. poosevelt to Mr.. Barnes, telling NJ
es. Iof appointing him to Office
eDid you appoint Mr.. Hyde Barn
mel lor DR.. Jekyll Barnes
this ~ wanted to get the DR. Jek
lout of him. The treasury depatline
ins said he had done his work wen
Iual deserved reappointment
81 &4. ..4lf