Norwich bulletin., 1915-02-06
Carnegie Gifts
 S324,697,399
TESTIFIED AT INDUSTRIAL RE-
 LATIoNS HEARING
WAS IN LOYAL MOOD
Asserts His Present Business Is to Do All the Good He Can in This World Rockefeller Also Testified.

New York. Feb. 5.-John D. Rocke- feller and Andrew Carnegie testified today before the Federal Commission on Industrial Relations. They defend cd the foundations which they have endowed with their wealth and neither believed that the institutions consti- tuted a menace to the religious po- utIcal or educational liberty of the people of the United States 4 desire to promote the welfare of mankind and that alone. they said, prompted them to establish the foundations which bear their names.
 Widely different was the manner in Which the two men faced the commits slon and the audience, which was com posed largely of representatives of la Dor. socialists, individuaIists and mem bers of the Industrial Workers of the World.
 Answers Caused Laughter. Mr. Carnegie went to the witnesr stand from a seat in the audience. He declined to sit while reading an sWers to questionaire. submitted by the commission or while he was be- ing lnterrogated. Mir. Carnegie was in a JoFlal mood. The answers he gave to questions caused the audience and the commissioners to roar with laugh ter more than once. Mir. Carnegie en- joyed that. When he left the stand he said he had not spent such a pleas ant afternoon in many years.
 Sketched Growth of Steel Business l In his testimony Mir Carnegie re- vealed that up to the close of last year his donations totalled s324697. .399 | His present business, he said, was to do al! the good he could in this world.
 business and said that 1t had been marked by an absence of labor dis
 putes.
 Employees Called Him "Andy" ! He never had such a good time in ] his Ife'' as when he was talking to hls employees, he said. The men liked him, too. When they call you Andy | instead of Andrew, or AIr Carnegie. i you know the boys are your friends
 Invited Commission to View Plant l Mr Carnegie invited the commis- Sloners to visit the Carnegie institute i in Pittsburgh. Commissioner Walsh informed him that the commission planned to hold hearings in Pittsburgh i at a later date and that it might ac- Icept his invitation
 Rockefeller Willing to Testify. | Mir. Rockefeller's appearance as a witness was a surprise. It was learn : ed after he left the stand that Ser
 nt-at-Arns Egan went yesterday to Pocantico Hills, the Rockefeller coun- 1 try estate, and gave him the uues- tlonaire that had been prepared for
 him. He asked Mir. Rockefeller wIotF7-
 CT he would appear as witness. MT. {; Rockefeller replied he would be very
 glad to do so. He promised to appear
 Saturday morning.
 While MT. Carnegie was on the stand
 MT. Rockefeller's private secretary presented to Chairman Walsh a note containing answers to the questions
 submitted to MT. Rockefeller and said
 that his employer was outside and that
 if the answers did not suffice he would
 Ike to be put on the witness stand l immediately. He was asked to wait III room being used 0y the commits
 sloners until MT. Carnegie had con
 cIuded. MT Rockefeller was assisted
 to the witness stand by members of
 his personal staff, who had accom- panied him to the office building in (which the hearing is being held. Seat
 ing himself with much difficulty he i leaned across q little table in front of him and looked at the audience It's size seemed to bewiIder him. When he. started to read his answers his IVoice was scarcely audible.
 Rockefeller Has Aged.
 After he had finished his statement he folded his hands on the little table
 and looked inquiringly at the commits isioners. His body remained perfectly imotonless as he testified. Not once
 did he change his position. Mir Rocke-
 teller appear 10 have aged consider
 ably since he last gave testimony in pubic. He spoke very slowly. very dispassionately-.
 l Sole Motive to Serve Fellow Men. He declared that his soie motive was
 to devote a portion of his fortune to
 the services Of his fellow men. He said he regarded the right to rescind | the charters of the foundations as sui l fcIent guarantee against abuse of the funds. He told about his meeting with EJ. F. Neloern, president of the Col orado Fuel and Iron company. and
 Mackenzie King at a time when there ! was labor trouble in Colorado He
 answered all the questions that had | been asked him. He told how he di-
 rected his business enterprises and ! the part he played in the administra- ! ton Of the foundations He said be would accord all men the right to or ganize, working men and business. men as well, providing they keep within | the proper limitations in respect to the law and to safeguarding the general interests of the public
 1 Would Make Workers Partners.
 AIr. Rockefeller said that he would "be happy to surrender" his holdings
 elther in whole or in part, and let the workers have q voice in the board of IdlrectorS just as all other stockholders ' do, thus giving them some of the prof us or thelr labor. He would be very | happy, also, he said, to see the work
 CTS be his partners in business.
 His Confidence in American Public. | As for the s1OO 900 900 which he had given to the Rockefeller foundation.
 FeveTting to himself or his heirs in
 the event of the legislature rescinding the charter of the foundation. MI,
 Rockefeller said he ''had never allow
 ed himself to worry about that" He
 declared that he had a great deal of
 conhdence in the American people and I their goodness.
 | Integrity and common sense, said he,
 were sufficient security for the founda-
 tion. MT. Rockefeller had never con- sidered the grievances submitted to ! the Cole 10 Fuel and Iron ccmpany
 by it's 1yes. H. pointed out that
 he was red business man a d had been sucI Tor many years
 1 The con iSsion will conclude tCmor- irow it's hearings in this city. which