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University Missourian., 1915-07-25
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Mr.. and Mrs. w. E. Smith chape-
roned sixteen young persons on a hay
ride and picnic supper Friday night.
Those attending were: Misses Brown.
Corinne Henshaw, Pansy Bayless,
Evelyn Smith, Adeline Murphy, Eth el
Wolvertson, Edith Stephenson and
Martha Downing; Harry Finley. Sam
| uel Church, Harry Garnett, Leo Hetz-
leb Claude Hourigan, Wayne Rut-
ledge, Paul Vanatta and Herman
Vogt.
Mrs. Walter Bridgewood entertained
at children's party yesterday after
noon at her home, 10S South William
street, in honor of her two little
guests, Clara and Edith Mayol of
Springfield, Ill. The house was dec
Grated with sweet peas. dahlias and
nasturtiums. The other guests were:
Charles and Louise Friscoe of Shelbi
ma; Ruby Letha and Fern Jones, Ruby
Zetha and Fern Jones, Ruby Fay
Enoch, William Enoch, Helen Phil
lippi, Millicent, Malcolm and Mario
rie Gibson, Manuel Serkes, Lillian,
Virginia and Robert Welch. Miss
Edith Haffenden and Mrs. w. F. Fris-
coe assisted the hostess
Six members of the Hunting Club
will motor to Providence today and
picnic on the river. The club keeps
motor boat at this place for the ex-
elusive use of its members.
The Y. w. c. A. gave the children
of Hinkson chapel a picnic yesterday
afternoon. There were games and re-
freshments for the little ones. Those
who assisted at the picnic were:
Misses Edna Rusk, Hortense Craw-
ford, Emma Murry, Kathryn Wyant.
Ruth Flowerree, Margaret Mumford
and Bernice Irwin
MIR and Mrs. Floyd Wilson chape-
roned house dance given Friday
night by the girls who room at Miss
Fannie Sanders home, 7O4 Maryland
place. Those attending were: Misses
Rachel Ogle, Helen Averitt, Mary
Keyes, Lillian Collins. May Fickis,
Ella Ginger and lola Brewer.
A neighborhood picnic was attended
by the following last night: Misses
Margaret Bramlet. Gladys and Nell
Roberts, Bonnie Chambers. Irma Du-
mas and May Parker; Jack Barlow,
Harry Steele, F. L. Bentley, Albert
Gwinn, Marcus Bell and John NJ Car
ter. After the picnic supper the even
ing was spent in dancing at the home
of Mr.. and Mrs. E. C. Parker on East
University avenue.
Attending supper at Rocheport
Friday evening were the following:
Misses Minnie and Julia Bailey, Mrs.
]. F. Murry, Mrs. De Saulnier, Willis
Murry, Miss Margaret Alexander, Syl-
via, Lucille and Jean De Saulnier.
The staff of the University library
will give a picnic supper tomorrow
night at the home of H. o. Severance,
l16 Edgewood avenue, in honor of Miss |
Elizabeth Wales of Jefferson City, sec
retary of State Library Commission.
Misses Lucille and Sylvia De Saulnier |
were hostesses at matinee party yes
terday afternoon. Refreshments were
served at the home of Mrs. John F. |
Murry, 306 South Ninth street. The |
guests were: Misses Sarah Mary and |
Flora Conley, Jennie Hockaday, Vir-
ginia Hunt, Lolita Hungate, Marie
Koeppen and her guest, Edith Zartt; |
Dorothy Logan. Kitty Miller, Queen
Smith, Grace Smith, Dorothy Steven
son, Laura Stephens; Dudley Miller
and William L. Nelson, Jr., Mrs. ]. f.
Murry and Miss Minnie Bayley were
chaperons.
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tons followed the carriages of the
incoming and outgoing lord mayors.
sheriffs and other great dignitaries.
The main feature OF the process
sion, however, was the recruiting
division-2,000 men. including units
of the city and county OF London
territorial regiments, preceded by
Red Cross vehicles loaded with
wounded soldiers.
By the new lord mayors order
no bunting. flags or other decora.
lions hung from the buildings
Funds which otherwise would have
been spent on them were turned
over to organizations engaged in
wartime charities.
Enthusiastic cheers were given
for small band of marching Tom
mics direct from the trenches, their
war-worn uniforms and equipment
In marked contrast to the spotless
khaki of the troops who preceded
them.
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befell the human race" men high In
public life declare today no Is prac-
tically alone In his idea.
The loreburn speech seems to
have served only to elicit general
ieiteration Of previous emphatic
statements from responsible. quar-
tiers that peace is impossible until
the central powers have been de-
cisively beaten.
In his criticism Of the censorship.
however, Lord Loreburn evidently
struck a responsive chord. Many
expressions are heard OF the belief
that my minimizing the Allies dim.
culties, the censorship was more
than an yother cause responsible
for unsatisfactory enlistments in the
post.
The matter promises to be still
more thoroughly thrashed out In
parliament in the near future, with
strong promises of notifications In
the system.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
SAYS FUTURE MA
! MUST BE 100 PEI
CENT EFFTCIE

At the MONDAY meeting ~ q
Kewanis club, In the Boar dot c.
merce. Monday. DR.. G. Burton e.
vens told of physical sxaminat1
being conducted. by experts ~ g.
Ford plant and also In the FL
National bank. At the Ford Dir
1000 men, including heads u
partments, were examined and nC1
were normal Sixty-nine per cent
them were referred to physician
Only 10 pr cent realised theirs ~
dition Heg gave statistics to,1gpv<
that IL the great army Of brS4g
winners only four per cent aro Z
solutely normal. and ever yyear "a L
900 Americans die prematurely e.
old age diseases. He predicted tn
the time would come when only IT.
approximating 100 per cent o.
cheney would be marketable. 81
DR.. Stevens insisted that physicol
efficiency must re recognized as TN
basis of all efficiency: that me-
are physical delinquents before th1y
are moral delinquents.
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NJ O ms t err P a gean t
Marks Swearing In
Of New City Head
TONNES FROM
TRENCHES MARCH
No Flags or Bunting,
Fund Given to
Charities
BY w. s. FORREST

(Sf0H Correspondent United Press.)
LONDON. Nov. 9.-For the tradi-
tional civic pageant, which, during
centuries past, has marked the
swearing in OF new lord mayor OF
London. a huge naval and military
display today accompanied Ald.-Coi.
Sur Charles Wakefield's installation
as the city's chief executive.
Tens OF thousands gathered In
the neighborhood Of st. Paul's, some
10 watch the lord mayors show, but
by far the majority interested in
two great recruiting meetings out
side the cathedral.
A short intercession service at st.
Paul's preceded the inauguration at
Temple bar, the entrance to the
city Of London proper.
Naval units, attachments OF the
royal naval divisions, naval appren-
tees from the training ship War
spite, cadet corps, several detach-
ments of the city OF London national
guard, special constables and a few
representatives OF civic organiza-
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Hritten for the United Pr~.sJ

. \ written for the United Press.l
NE WYORk, Nov. 9.--Baron Lore
burns grave warning In the British
house OF lords that anarchy might
follow the prolongation of the war
indefinitely. Is certain to have an
effect on the belligerent statesmen
even though for the moment II
makes no impression on public
opinion.
Lord Loreburn is one OF Europe's
most brilliant lawyers and deepest
thinkers. He was lord chancellor Of
Great Britain between 1905 and 1912.
and is an intense Liberal In poll
tics. He has always been noted for
hurting out the truth, however in
convenient the truth might be TO
Others, and he has owed his rise to
that unusual characteristic as much
as to the admirable judgment which
almost always has been shown to
reside in his opinions.
Undoubtedly, whatever Lord Lore
burn says In the open, in time OF
grave crisis. many minds OF first
rank are privately thinking. Under
this condition 1t frequently needs
but publicly spoken word to cause
men at large to unburden their half
timorosly concealed thoughts.
There can be little question but
that Baron Loreburn's picture OF
Europe after the war as a wilder
ness inhabited mostly by old people
and children will produce exchanges
OF opinions among statesmen con.
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THE EUROPEAN CONFLICT
AS SEEN FROM DAY TO DAY

corning the consequences to the
world II the war is fought to the
end.
These exchanges may even occur
between enemy countries, IL IL be
true that Prince Won Buelow is now
In Switzerland for the purpose OF
discovering possible basis OF
peace. The most fundamental OF
all peace bases Is realization OF
the consequences that would result
IL peace were refused and II the war
were to continue to a condition OF
exhaustion.
Lord Loreburn's warning OF the
spectre OF anarchy lurking In the
background of the present conflict
must be accepted. therefore, as a
positive contribution to the cause
of peace. IL Is one of growing
number of indications that Europe
gradually is emerging from the con-
dition of blind hatred which prevail
ed earlier in the war. This does
not mean that peace will probably
be declared Immediately, but II un-
questionably does mean that the
way is being cleared for an exchange
OF peace views among the belliger-
ents. How long II will take before
the way is finally opened, no one
can tell II the other combatant
countries have statesmen possess
ing Lord Loreburns frankness, and
IL the warnings of what a prolonged
war means to Europe are frequently
repeated. the arrival OF peace VIII
be much fastened.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
Everett Pupils Join in
Mad Scramble as First
School Bank is Opened

Four boys and four girls from the
seventh and eighth grades of the
Everett school became bankers for
their schoolmates. Tuesday morn
ing. They are members OF the pu-
pills committee chosen to test the
plan of school savings in Detroit.
According to Walter G. Toepel.
cashier of the Peninsular State
bank, who is in charge Of the work,
about IS youngsters crowded about
the tables I'm the hall OF the school
to register "a depositors. About SIS
was taken in, deposits ranging from
five cents TO 81.
1.-THE number of youngsters who
wanted to start savings was so
great" said Mr.. Toepel. that we
found II necessary to form them In
line. This line extended out in the
street. There was confusion, he
cause OF the eagerness of the chill
dren to get their names down In the
books"
Mr.. Toepel and John Langdon'
formerly In charge of the transit de-
partment of the Peninsular State
bank, instructed the children's com
mittee how to make out the regis
tration cards and open the ledger
accounts.
at Is only question OF time.
said Mr.. Toepel. "before. the system
will have to be extended to cover
all our public schools. The plan
has already proved so popular in the
Everett school that there can be no
doubt of its success
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FRENCH TRANS
PORT SUNK; GER
MANS SEND FLEET
CONTINUED from Page one.)

Continued from Page One.)
reception, but the French public
takes it for granted that the prob
able inauguration by the kaiser Of
this sort of fighting has not been
left out of consideration.
Best obtainable information is
that the Germans have dispatched
practically all Of their new super
submarines to the near cast.
LONDON, Nov. 9.-Destruction of
two more British and a Japanese
steamship by German submarines
was announced by the admiralty to.
day. The British vessels are given
as the Buresh and Glenmoore; the
Japanese as the Yasukuni Maru.
The crews were all saved. The ad.
miralty does not state where any OF
the incidents occurred.
The Buresk was of 1850 tons. II
was owned by the Euresk Steamship
Co, and London was its home port.
No such ship as the Glenmoore Is
listed. There is Glenmoor, 3,075
tons, owned by the Moor line. OF
New Castle, and a Glenmore. 1856
tons, owner by Donald & Taylor,
Glasgow.
The Yasukuni Maru was OF 5,11S
tons, owned by the Minnekani Kie-
sen Kabushili Kaisha, and sailed
from Darien.
The steamship Birgit, reported in
Copenhagen dispatches Monday as
destroyed by an undersea boat,
proves today to have been a small
Finnish vessel, not officially listed.
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vices from Athens received from
London last night.
This front extends from the Ba-
'buna nights, north OF Prilip. Serbia,
to a point southeast Of Strumitsa,
Bulgaria.
At'the eastern end OF the front as
well as at the point where the line
crosses the Salonika-Nish railway,
heavy fighting is in progress be-
tween the Allied forces and the But
garians.
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bOuNSACk--Nov. s. Mt his residence,
227 Baldwin-ave.. Charles, aged 20
years beloved husband OF Mary and
samuel and William Dohnsack. No
tice OF funeral later.
BROMN-Suddenly. Nov. 8. 1915. mt
his parents residence. lSl Spring
wells-avc.. Clarence j., beloved son
loving brother OF Harry. Irene and
Charles Bro-n. aged 20 years. Flu
neral Thursday nj 1:Sc p M. from
residence. Interment at Woodmere.
La WsON--Suddenly at residence;
ITO Fifteenth-st. David. beloved
husband of Julia and dear father
OF Amy. David and Mrs. III. 5. Las
key. Funeral notice later
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
Hot Fighting on
Western Front
Rn UNITED PRESS.

PARIS, Nov. 9.--Fierce cannon
fighting and savage encounters be-
tween advance guards were report
ed in the war Offices official COM
munique today.
The statement said:
I'm the Loos region there have
been hot patrol combats, in which
we have had the advantage.
Violent artillery duels have oc-
Cured in Champagne. in the vicin-
tiles of Beauvraignes and lie Ira
peze. They were begun by the Ger
mans and we replied theoretically"
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
OVERLAND
ENLARGES

NEW YORK, Nov. 9.-The Wullys-
Overland company To-Day announced
the issu eof $15,000,o00 new CONVEX
tible seven per cent preferred stock.
The new stock will be offered to
holders of common stock ut 102 1-2.
Preferred stockholders will be per-
stock to the extent Of ~ 1.2 per
cent of their present holdings. The
present Issue. of preferred stock Of
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CENSORSHIP.
HIT HARD
By UNITED PRESS.

LONDON, Nov. eff Lord Lore
born was hinung at comprise with
Germany when he told, parliament
that indefinite continuation OF the
war might mean anarchy and that
land man would be strangely con-
structed who did not grasp at any
honorable opportunity of prevent the
most frightful calamity which ever
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
GREECE TO SIDE
WITH BULGARS
AND TEUTONS
1Continued from Page One.)

he could count Oh the troops to put
down any uprising against him.
The officers seem TO have been
influenced Ly suggestions that
Greece can gain more through a
combination with bulgaria than in
any other way and that the officers
personally will be better off If they
enjoy the present royal courts favor
than by siding against II.
Strong sentiment exists in gov
ernment circles here and at Paris
for action by the Allies to force the
Greek land at once. Supporters OF
this court say IL may not be too late
yet to upset the plans of the Ger.
man propagandlsts at Athens. IL
there is much delay they are afraid
nothing can stop them.
D-s-Ssu--th~ slalv. mont ltud--fh NJ
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which about S4.lss.700 y ~
ing, will be called for re66
at ITO. and accrued dividsn u
Jan. 13, 1915. sfs


PROVIDENCE, r.. J.. Nov. u
Creatore, band leader, II - 1D1l
Rosina Demarinuis, -, lsat 4
half his age, who No knesgH
nine-yearold girl. RonanoDy -.
ed their meeting six months &
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09
Allies Move Forward
To Aid of Serbians

PARIS. Nov. 9.--The British
French forces In Serbia and Bull
garia are now moving north along
n 60-mile front, according to ad-
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FOR Observation-Disclosures.
HAINES' WIGS, TOUPES,
HAIR GOODS


Haines' Wigs and Toupes are well
made. the most natural effects being
produced. I have no competitor in
quality OF work and reasonabl
prices. My wigs and toupes are In
use all over the world.
Ladies' Hair Goods. I carry thou
sands OF French Wavy Switches and
German Wavy Switches. straight hair
switches Large stock OF gray and
white. Pompadours. Puffs. Waves.
Curls. Half Wigs for ladies, bald or
with thin hair. Il don't deal In Chi
ncse refined halp. nor sea grass.)
ladies hair dyed by competent
hands. Hair dressing. shampooing.
ehildren's hair cutting. Most modern
up-to-date hair dressing parlors In
the United states. Wigs to rent for
parties and masqueradcs. III looking
Tor "a reliable Hair Goods House don't
overlook me, - years In my present
hair store ought To appeal to the
public Established i'm my present
hair store 1879.
VIM. A. HAINES
IS Grand River-ave west, cor. Bagley.
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Classified s.'s'.''.. | s T,,; !;

Cash with order. n char sea. 10
No transient sdvsrsssns inserted
for less than leo With ash: lie "
charged, per insertisa
ncatiens except R:Sths. cMds Of
Thanks. Obituaries, Meating Notices
and ali ads preceding Hsls nsip.
srths. Desths, Cards Of Thanks
charge. ssc Tor a. wcrds or less Over
Is words one and -oDS- third csrts for
eacn extra word
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TO RENT-HoUsEA.
FOR sAI.E,-FARMs
A Home and a Competence
on q
Sunny Southeastern Missouri
Farm

We Will give you 20-ACRE FARM
free. asking only your co-operatioE
In our great development project;
We are selling our farms for ONLY
5000. payable IS cash and g. month
~. without interest or taxes; we
give you free with each farm 3
town lots in fast-growtng towns
and 300 shares I'm t.000-acrc orch
ard, with two canning factories and
full equipment; with proper care
these farms net from 800 to $500
per acre.
FREE RAILWAY FARE-Money back
after one year IL dissatisfied; pay
ments stop In case OF death; money
loaned for improvements: perfect
tile; immediate possession.
GET THIS FREE BOOK TODAY-we
have prepared large 1s-page
pamphlet, containing absolute proof
of all statements made herein. and
containing dozens OF photographs
made on our land and In our 900
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tanning letters from more than
1000 81 our customers. who have
inspected our land. and full par
ticulars OF our great free offer.
Send for n today. G.. M. Bryan. 70
State-st.. Detroit. Mich.
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WEST SIDE BARGAIN

Q22 Lawndale- north Of Fcrndale-
ave, modern. s-story frame. oak
finish. steam heat. si.l50, $500
down.
West I266--E l.. LEDDY-Ch'ry 1siT.
Az Moffat Block.
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WILL SELL MY GROOM
COTTAGE

emile circle. for s2.65o: small pay
ment down. J also have 30xl10-
n. lot for $500 and my home for
1000. 5000 down. Phone Main 1915.
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Northwestern Bargain

First block from Grand River ave.
modern brick veneer home. rooms
and bath, steam heat, 4O-ft. lot;
bargain for cash West 1866. T..
IL. LEDDY Cherry lSi7. AZ Mof-
fat block,
COTTAGE BARGAINS rooms. bath.
s2.SOo; easy terms. 30i National.
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EXCHANGE OR TERMS

20 acres near stoney Lake; $1,000;
will take city property.
40 acres near Island Lake. $4,000;
will take vacant or terms.
20 acres. Abins, Texas: 1900 orange
trees and other fruit. VIII take
. city property or will sell on easy
ter ms.
Several others just as good
A. a. Afford. GIG Hamilton-ave.
Phone Hickory 3022.
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In Emile circle. & rooms and bath
each. near Warren w; new place;
$500, u cash Also a Groom mod
eTn home, 55Sl6O lot, SIS 500. Terms.
9-room frame. Lincoln-ave.. modern
and large barn. $l,j00. $1,000;
bargain; and a new S-room house.
Hamilton blvd. $1,000, $500 down,
lot i0N11S.
See Mr.. Logan,
BAER-CARPENTER
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CHOICE FARM
1872 ACRES

All under cultivation; n first class
farm In every particular; this Is
the farm for "A farmer who wishes
to make money. Write or call for
full particulars. Maioney- Campbell
Realty Co. Inc. 60i Free Press
bldg.
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FOH. SAIE-VACNNT EOTs,
FORD TRACTOR DISTRICT
Lots on easy terms.

our Subdivisions cover over half
mile OF Michigah-ave. frontage,
facing the Maple Road. which runs
through Ford's immense tract
shortly, employing many thousand
men. Our Forrest. lots. on the
other side OF the Ford properties
are also very desirable. Phone,
write or call for maps and iitera-
down and 1% month. Use fore
sight and buy now. Ask for Sub
division Dept.
HANNAH
Oldest and largest subdividers In
Michigan.
Main SIS. 1 McGraw Bldg.
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DICKINSON'S GUIDE FOR
REAL ESTATE BUYERS

Prices, terms. streets and numbers
OF over 800 different properties per
n onth 4 telephone call will put
you on our mailing list. Cadillac
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-11-09

HOTEL FRANKLIN

Ger Lsrned and Bates-.-onIy hair a
block from the new Interurban
Waiting Room Extra fne rooms
~ Soc. 7Sc. 81. $50 per day.
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ron sALn-REsORTs.

FoR SALE AT LAKE oRioN--rwo.
story boarding house, - rovns
steam heat: barn. woodskcd. chick.
en- park. outside cellar. large gar
den. Also high class fastest motor
boat on lake. Dr. {. A. DeCou. lock
Lox 1pe. Pontiac Mich
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2-Family Brick Veneer

roR Observation-Disclosures
The Caldwell tribune. [volume] (Caldwell, Idaho Territory [Idaho]) 1883-1928, 1915-06-11

No one Dependent on You? Before
Many Years You will Have. Who?
Yourself. Put some savings in the
Equitable Life Insurance Income bond
A. |. MYERS
Agent. Caldwell. Idaho
The Caldwell tribune. [volume] (Caldwell, Idaho Territory [Idaho]) 1883-1928, 1915-06-11
WHERE ARE THEY?

What has become of the barefooted
boys and girls we used to see throng
the streets? asks the Freeport, Pa,
Journal. 1t is a rare thing now to
see any of the small fry with their
pedal extremeties bare. We are all
either prouder or better off than in
our boyhood days. We remember
when there were only one or two fam
lilies whose children wore shoes and
stockings the whole year round, and
they were considered stuck up" Our
mothers used to have to whale us to
make us wear shoes on Sabbath. and
we would hike home and get them off
as soon as church was out. Nearly
every fellow had a stonebruise or had
stumped his big toe and carried it in
sling unless he was Miss Nancy"
and played with the girls. OF course,
there is not the same inducement to
run barefooted now, for there is no
dust six inches deep on the streets for
a fellow to shuttle through, or ponds
in front of every store when it rains
for him to splash around in and work
the mud up between his toes. Stive-
sons pond is also a thing of the past,
and he can no longer sail over its
bosom on a slab in summer time or
banter on the thin ice in winter. 1t
is also true that a fellow does not
have to stumble through a flock of
geese or fall over a COW every here
and there on the sidewalk as in the
good old days.