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The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

The prediction has been made
that one of these fine days some per-
son will create a positive sensation
in educational circles throughout the
United States by rediscovering the
essentials of education, reading, writ
ing, arithmetic and geography.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

The coal in one of the recently
developed mines in China lies so
close to the surface of the ground
that the soil will be scraped off and
the coal mined with a steam shovel.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22
The Only Good PAVING

Uncle Sam knows his business
One may have noticed that the only
Ipiece OF good paving In Ottumwa is
around the government building, and
that is paved with Oskaloosa brick.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

err. and If they could find it in well
regulated pool they would grow up
free from the foul language, which as
Mr., Norton says, lis disgrace to
any man.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22
AFTER AWHILE.

All dem roses gwine ter fade;
Honey, doan' yo' sigh.
Gwine ter be mo- roses made
Fob yo' bye,an'-bye;
Gwine to be mo- roses grow
Doan' yo' worry, chile,
Bout dem tho'ns dat hut yo' SO:
Roses-afteh while.
We dess 'bleeged ter hab some night
Sho' as yo' is bon;
Afteh while hit gwine be Light
Finest kin o. mon.
Dahkes' clouds dat even was
Hangin' round dis chile:
Doan' yo' worry none, because
Sunshine, afteh while.
All dem teahs dat come today
Has dey purpose, too:
Afteh while dey's gwine erway-
Hits de way dey do.
Teahs dess wash erway yo' woe;
Doan' yo worry, chile.
Sunshine bring de rose, yo' knSw-
Afteh while, a smile! ~
w. d. NAsbitt.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

Our idea of nothing to get ex-
cited over, is that North Dakota law
which provides that all sleigh-run-
ners must be of uniform thickness.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

The unexpected has happened
again. Colorado's woman senator
advises that the best way to succeed
is to keep ones mouth shut
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

The city man who raises his own
cabbages and tomatoes is firmly of
the opinion that garden sass" sells
entirely too low
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

International law seems to be
about as homogeneous and capable OF
as many Interpretations as the Iowa
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

Patron: Can you send a live
duck by mail?' Stamp Clerk: mo,
sir. the mails are not open to
quacks."
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

What's that? Only 5vl Russian
prisoners in the last battle? What's
wrong with the adding machine?
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

The sun of prosperity shines in
Iowa for those only who can and will
work
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

III you want to keep a man think
ing well of you don't go his security.
The Oskaloosa herald., 1915-07-22

III you are at your Wits ends try
a want adv. in the Herald.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
.Man-Woman" Burglar Taken
from Braxton Jail to the
State Prison.

IA. J. Coleman, "a guard Of the
state penitentiary VINO was here Mon
Gay for the purpose OF taking five
convicts from the county jail to the
penitentiary, reported that he had
Just taken frankie Dawson. the no-
torious man-Woman burglar. to the
state prison from the county jail at
Sutton.
frankie IS the person who created
a sensation recently in the Braxton
county Jail by announcing that she
was woman instead OF man, al
though she had been Imprisoned in
the mems department of the jail sew
eral months and had worn male at
tire. IN appearance, voice and action
she seemed to be man, but her
statement was found to be true by
the jail matron. frankie was con-
victed of committing a burglary at a
Burnsville jewelry store with Robert
Stewart and Judge Jake Fisher sem
fenced her to serve three years IN the
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
ARMY TRANSPORT!
S Asked for by Secretary
Bryai1to ConveyRefuge
from TampiCo.

WASHINGTON, April L Secretary
Bryan Monday asked the war depart
ment TO furnish an army transport TO
bring those Americans at Ta1npico
who are DESTROYS of returning to the
United States. Three hundred Amer
leans have filed requests for transpor-
tation but officials believe the num-
Der will be increased when the army
which has a capacity Of
Threatened famine, continued fighting
in the outskirts OF Tampico and the
lack Of work have caused an exodus
OF foreigners from Tampico.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
SEN1| | | Noes
Are Imposed on Men Convicted
of Election Corruption in
Terre Haute, Ind.
~ b w - ~
lhr SASHaEIATkn FeKD4l

INDIANAPOLIS, April Mayor
Dom NJ. Roberts, one OF the twenty
seven men convicted by a jury IN fed
eral court for participation IN the con-
sptracy TO defraud the government in
the election in Terre Haute on No
vember 3, 1914, was sentenced by
Judge Anderson Monday to six years
In Leavenworth prison and topay a
fine Of $4,000. In all Lis men, eighty
nine OF whom had pleaded guilty,
were to be sentenced.
Harry S Montgomery, president of
the board OF public works; Thomas q.
Smith, city Judge; George Ehrenhardt,
member OF the board of public works;
and Edward r. Dr1scoll, secretary OF
the Vigo County Democratic Central
Committee, were sentenced to three
years leach in the penttentiary and
fined $500. Ell H. Redman, elected
Judge Of the circuit court OF Vigo
county by ten votes. and Sheriff Dem
mis- Shea were sentenced to FIVE years
4in the peniteutiary and fined $1,000
each z.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
JURORS DRAWN
For the Next Regular Term of
the Circuit Court of the
County.

The next regular term of the cir
cult court will begin Monday. May s..
with Judge Raymond Maxwell on tic
bench. Jurors to serve at that term
will report for duty Monday morning.
May 40. They have been drawn as
follows:
III Charles L. Cavalier, Charles NJ.
5Tetrick. Howard Nicely, Arthnr Ny
ers. Arden E. Young. o. T.. Nay, Wal
lace II. Young =. B. Cunningham.
Charles I. Lynch, %. II. Perine. Rob-
erL Everson. J. T.. Meredith, Alvah II.
Martin, Claude Swiger. A. G. Booth.
J. Leonard Martin. Thomas j. Swiger,
NJ. r.. Haggerty. Genius Payne.
James VanHorh. John c. Biddle.
Hoffman Young. E. G. Coffman, Will
liam Carder. Waldo BroadWater,
Edwin ". Richardson. Harley Tai
bott, J. H. Wilkinson, Albert D.
Shinn, Roscoe ID. Wolfe. p. J.. Mean
drews. w. NJ. Davis, George Ross.
Samuel w Bowman, Alonzo Booth,
Joe Lucas. Al Strother. Thomas ].
Bennett, G. E. Lamberd, Berkeley
Davis, Walter Frum. NJ. w. Swiger,
Theodore Radcliff. Charles Greene.
Minter t. Lawson. Harter Smith.
Russell G.. Lynch and J.. J.. Johnson.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
HOW FRENCH PEOPLE
CURE STOMACH TROUBLE

a household remedy Of the French
speasantry. consisting OF pure vegetable
oil. and said TO possess wonder full merit
in the treatment of stomach, liver and
intestinal troubles. has been introduced
5in3tllis country by George III. Mayr. who
for twenty years has been one Of the
leading downtown druggists of Chs
5cago and who himself was cured by its
use. So quick and fective is its action
5thatfa single dose is usually enough to
bring pronounced relief IN The most
stubborn cases, and 1nanv people who
have tried it declare they never heard
of anything to produce such remarkable
results IN so short a time. It is known
as Mayr's Wonderful Remedy and can
now be had at all leading drug stores.
1 It is sold with the positive understand
ing that your money will be refunded
without question or. bubble IF ONE
\ bottle fails To- give you absolute salts
faction.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
AUTO WRECK
On West Milford Road Results
in Painful Injury of Frank
DOutt.

Frank Doutt, stage employee at
the Odeon theater. was badly cut on
the head and bruised about the back.
and four companions. two women
and two men. received minor cuts
and bruises, when an automobile in
which TREY were riding overturned on
the West Milford road about two
miles from the city early Sunday
evening.
The accident occurred when Doutt
turned his machine too far to the
roadside in passing another automo-
bile. and it skidded and fell over an
embankment- All five occupants
were thrown out. but all except Doutt
escaped with only slight injuries.
The automobile was not badly dam
aged
Doutt was given medical attention
as quickly as possible and is now
resting easy
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
FRANKIE TO SERVE AN
EXTRA YEAR FOR LOVER

penitentiary. but she got up and
asked the Judge to make it four SO
she could go in and come out OF the
penitentiary with her ..buddie,' Rob
ert Stewart, who had been sentenced
to serve four years. Judge Fisher
granted her wish and girl warmly
thanked him.
frankie and Bob had a case" all
right. according to Mr.. Coleman.
When they parted at a door Of the
penitentiary, she pulled Bob's head
under her arm and kissed him pas
sionately several times, first throw
ing away a cigaret she had been
smoking. FrankieHts about 25 years
old and fairly good looking, but the
officers say she is a regular terror.
She has travelled around the country
in male attire with men fer several
years, and can hop the stringers Of a
moving freight car with as much
agility as a regular hobo.
Mr.. Coleman also took a fellow
named Cutlip. sentenced to serve
two years for forgery, from the Jail
at Sutton to the penitentiary. He
made the trip just before coming to
5Clarksburg.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
WA RSHIP CHASE
RATHER EXCITING
AS Described by Officers Of
British Merchant Vessel
Taken from Wilhelm.
v 'If-11lf7L
CIV AssocIArRD pkE1H,

NEWPORT NEWS, Va, April 10
How the German merchant raider,
Kronprinz Wilhelm; which came into
this port Sunday mornin 6. was chased
by British warships after midnight
Saturday and barely escaped capture,
was described by officers Of the Brit
ish merchant vessels destroyed by the
Welhe elm IN the South Atlantic Short
~ before noon Monday the sixty-one
British officers and men Of the steam
ers Camar and Coleby We're taken.
from the Wilhelm aboard tug and
rushed down the river to the FB rit1sh
horse ship, Cassan dra, which will sal
later today for Glasgow. The harbor
was lined with British merchant ships
as the captives of the German raider
we're releas ed and as their tug steamed
by hundreds or British sailors lined
the decks OF their ships and cheered.
When the liberated British tars
reached the Casandra's docks they
tossed the remnants Of their luggage
aboard and danced around like school
boys In ntfcipation of the trip to their
native land, joyous that they had es-
capped by the guns of their own coun-
try's warslrips Saturday night.
Slid we see British warships Satur-
day night?t said W. J.. Gov, chief en-
gineer or the steamer Coleby, sunk in
the South Atlantic March %.
eve certainly saw one and heard
others. saw one about midnight OF
on the horizon and it was chasing US
from midnight on until we reached
safety in the Virginia capes about 3
O'Clock Sunday morning. OF course
we were all put below every night at
6 clock but could see the dark dim
outlines Of the warship five or slx
miles distant after midnight. The
Wilhelm seemed to be the faster ship
for as time went on the lines OF the
warship grew DINNER and DINNER
until it disappeared in the distance.
Our escapeEto this port marvellous.
we were running with lights out and
at top speed from 5 o'clock Saturday
afternoon when he headed direct
west, LGis s ssf III PA
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
Catarrh Cannot Be Cured

with LOCAL APPLICATIONS. !. they cannot
reach the scat OF. thu disease Catarrh Is a blood
or constitutional disease. and In order to cure &c
you must take internal remedies. Halls CAtnrrh
Cure Is taken internally. and acts directly upon
the blood and mucous sur Races Halfss atarrh
Cure IL not a QuacE medicine. II .Ra1 pre-
ncrihed by one Of The best physicians in this
country for years and IS a regular prescription.
It Is composed OF the best tonIcn known. corn-
b!ned with tho best blood purifiers. acting al
rectly the mucous surfaces. The perfect
conhina ton of the two ingredients Il wha pro-
duces such wonde rfu1 results In curing catarrh.
Send for Testimonials. free. q
F. .. CHENEY q Co.. Props. Toledo o.
Sold by Druggists. price s15c.
Il Take Halls Family Pills for constipation.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
.NEBARASKA.GRA|N.
And Provisions Will BE Sent
to Serbia in Carload
Lots

II 8IINCOLN, Neb., April 1.-THE.
Griswold Seed Company, Of Lincoln,
is sponsor for Serbian relief move.
ment in Nebraska which will probably
result IN the shipment Of Nebraska
grain and provisions to Serbia in car
load lots. The company plans a state
organization, with committees in Lin
coin and Omaha as the nucleus.
Farmers would donate seeds, grain,
provisions and agricultural nipple
ments and would send them to desig-s
mated collecting points. where they
would be made into carload lots. The
company has started the ball rolling
by making substantial donation.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
CONCERT TOUR
OF Belgium is to Be Made ii
May by Famous. Berlin
Orchestra.
;. tsf-Azrvr,ATEo rREEE,

BERLIN, by wireless, April -33The
famous philha rmonic orchestra OF Ber-
lin is preparing to make concert
tour of Belgium early In May, accord
ing to announcement made Monday.
Felix Weingarten will conduct and
the musicians will play twice while in
Brussels. n,
The rivers Rhine, Moselle and Nee
kar and their tributaries are rising
rapidly. The Mayence region is
Threatened with inundation. ..t.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
BANKRUPTCY
Petition lis Filed by the Hughes
Creek Coal Company in
This State.

CHARLESTON. April Is .A petition
in voluntary bankruptcy was filed
Monday by the Hughes Greek Coal
Company, one Of the leading mining
corporations in this part Of the state
The liabilities are s1255373 16, and the
assets $3.50, 1925. The petition was
filed by James Kay, president Of the
company, after the board OF directors
had met and decided that the company
vas insolyent.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
MURDER TRIAL
Is Begun at Fairmont Growing
Out of Riot in Miners Strike
at Pennington.

FAIRaiONT, April IS. Louis
Urich. one of the 1 "a men indicted in.
connection with the death OF consta-
bic W r.. riggs, as the result Of in
juries sustained during a riot be-
tween striking miners and deputy
sheriffs at Pennington last February.
was brought into court here Monday
for trial. Forty-nine others remain
in the county Jail. None Of the oth-
ers have been arrested.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
ONE MAN is CAUGHT
IN CITY OF CHICAGO
WY as2Ei i4S R8'.s' '.l' ssls9ill5
cav ASSOCIATED PREas1

CHICAGO, April 13.-Max Ettin-
ger. a deputy sheriff Of Marion coun-
", has departed for Fairmont with
Peter Cipriani. 2 years old and one
Of the 134 men under indictment
there on charge OF murder. growing
out Of the February 90 fight. between
striking miners and deputy sheriffs.
Cipraini was arrested here yesterday.
He s#charged with. being an accessory
to murder.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
LAW ANNULLED
And Trains ii. Wisconsin Will
Not Have to Stop at Ger
tain Stations.
nv AssoeiArEp rnEss,

WAS41NGTON, D. c. Apr. 1.-the
Wisconsin statute of 1911, providing
that IL four or more passenger trains
are run each way daily by a railroad
at least two shall be stopped at ev-
cry postoffice village Of 200 inahbi-
tants along the road, was annulled
Monday as arbitrary and unconstitu-
tional by the supreme court. The
case arose over the stopping of trains
ut Cochrane. Wis.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
- 80 =, = = 7l88i tl
FIGHT INDICTED.

ferrcIA,- a, -Ar5- ~

CHICAGO, April 133.--Ind Elements
against J ohm Frarson ]. Jrr.. and his
brother, w lillian larson, and six
other men charged with misuse OF
the mails In the sale OF securities
RADIO irrigation deal. were announced
Monday by the United States dis
trict attorneys Office.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
AVIATOR KILLED.
n B6Jt iiys 4is u Ne "a 9ii5 j I'D
ftEpEcIALITa TIE TKLEGAAh

WAsFI1NGTN. Cd. q. April 13s.- ---s
Cecil Peoli. e South American. and
the first aviator to fly over the Andes
was killed at5theG United.
States army aviation held at College
Park. M d., near here, Aiond ay. while
making savertical dip III a machine
OF his own invent ION.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
MOVES TO FARM

Michael Morris. OF Margaret who
recently purchased the Samuel Carr
farm Of fifty acres nea. Grasselli. IS
moving to 1t. Mr.. Morris is an en-
terprisng, Industrious citizen5and his
new farm is a very desirable one.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
I. IIlT.TILASDI#

Near the car line and on snlendld5
lot we have q new house with bath
for sale at just about what II would
cost To build the house.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
.DOCKERs CHEERED. /

LIVERPOOL. April 13.-The first
lockers battalion, $50 men strong,
marched between lines OF cheering
crowds to the docks to begin work
here Monday.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
~ ass Ef y ig3l 5l'ss IA
SENT TO THE ROADS.

For stealing rides on trains in the
local railroad yards. young men Civ
ing the names Of Charles Cottrill and
Harry Keenan, were fined SIS and
costs and in default OF payment SEN
hard work on the county roads Non
day in Ma gistrate 4. G. Nicewarner's
court.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13

A GOOD TIME TO BUY REAL
ESTATE. AND BY THE Way
REAL. ESTATE rs NOT SO SLOW
tlTsLOOKS AS THOUGH THIS WILL
BE THE BANNER YEAR.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13

on Buckhannon Pike we have a
me seven room cottage with good,
big front and side porch. Lot SO By
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13
brood OAKS I

Niue room house. finished in hard
wood, bath, pantry and large base
mcnt. Lot 12Qx120 feet.
The daily telegram. [volume] (Clarksburg, W. Va.) 1901-1926, 1915-04-13

Experiments in Franch have shown
that ordinary sod is an efficient filter
for sewage.
The Madison daily leader. [volume] (Madison, S.D.) 1890-current, 1915-10-21

led TO a concentration on the brilliant
Jewish officer, his accusation. his quick
trial and his deportation to horrible i'm
prisonment on Devils island. off the
coast of South America.
In the Dreyfus case the mills of jus
tice were grinding slowly indeed, but
they were grinding surely. 1t took
twelve years formally TO establish an
innocence ii which the world at large
long believed.
Alongside of Dreyfus, the martyr,
have stood two heroes whose names
deserve to be indelibly linked with the
love of truth and justice.
one of them was Emile lola. most
noted of modern French novelists. For
up the cause of a condemned man and
defy government and army In bis IA
nous letter beginning II accuse" For
that he was sentenced TO a heavy fine
and Imprisonment and the loss OF his
Legion Of Honor button. He fled into
exile.
The other man was Colonel Picquart.
who sacrificed rank in the army, favor.
fortune. fought duels and suffered
months of Imprisonment because he
dared proclaim the guilt of his brother
! officers In ~condemning an innocent
man. 1t was he who discovered the
forgeries and the crimes that convict
ed Dreyfus and he who had the cour-
age to stand for the truth.
He was cashiered In disgrace, but
the rehabilitation of the chief sufferer
brought about his restoration. Without
the discoveries made by Colonel Pic
quar- while chief of the intelligence
bureau of the army it is doubtful
whether the innocence of Dreyfus ever
could have been established.
In 1899 the courts ordered the pris.
oner brought back to France for re
trial. The session began at Rennes In
August before a court of seven ofi
GERS. presided over by Colonel Jouaust
The prisoner. like n raised from thu
dead. made a dazed and ~unfavorablt
appearance. Labori, his lawyer. made
a brilliant case and won great fame.
Dreyfus was freed. but not rehabili
tated. The verdict of the court MARTA
left him under suspicion. He refused
to accept the judgment as final. HI
must have complete vindication and b,
restored Il the same plane of innocence
on which he stood before the accusa
ton Of 1894. This was given him sever
years later when the supreme court o
the republic annulled the verdict Of tn
Rennes court martial. and then he wa
given the rank Ct q maieog II the army
The Madison daily leader. [volume] (Madison, S.D.) 1890-current, 1915-10-21
DANIELS OUTLINES PLANS
Congress VIII Be Asked TO Enlarge
Navy Yards.

Raleigh, N. c., Oct. 21.-What the
navy expects to do toward prevent
ing private manufacturers from reap
ing excessive profits Oh the expendi-
ture OF hundreds OF millions of dol
lars involved I'm the administrations
national defense program was out
fined here by Secretary Daniels in a
speech at the North Carolina state
fair.
Mr. Daniels said his annual report
TO congress- would recommend to con
gress legislation to enable the gov
eminent to equip itself to build more
naval craft, make its own armor plate
and greatly extend it's manufacture
of munitions.
"The government has invested
many millions of dollars in navy
yards" the secretary said, 'and unless
this investment is utilized for new
construction much of II is wasted. II
the government is prepared to con.
struct naval craft private shipbuild'
ing companies making contracts must
compete with government yards. This
tends to procure competitive prices
and prevents combinations among
private corporations to charge higher
prices than conditions justify"
J. J. !. + !. + + + J. u. !. = = !. 4. J. J.
The Madison daily leader. [volume] (Madison, S.D.) 1890-current, 1915-10-21
SERvlAN CAPITAL REMOVED
Transferred From Nish to Prizrend,
in the West.

Saloniki, Oct. 21.-The capital Of
Servia has been transferred from Nish
to Prizrend, In Western Servia, close
to the Albanian frontier. The banks
and most Of the legations are being
removed to Prizrend.
The Russian consul at Saloniki has
sent an automobile to bring the Rus
sian minister to Servia to this city,
but owing Il the muddy condition of
the roads, II Is doubtful whether this
effort will succeed.
The Madison daily leader. [volume] (Madison, S.D.) 1890-current, 1915-10-21
ISSUE UP TO WILSON AGAIN
suffraoists on Way From Frisco Wish
Audience.

Washington, Oct. 21.-Despite Pres
ident Wilson's repeated
ments that he Is opposed TO a federal
suffrage amendment Mrs. Robert w.
Baker of this city asked the White
House for an engagement with the
president to present a committee from
. convention of women voters from
San Francisco bearing resolutions for
federal action. The committee now Is
on its way East.
Mr.. Tumulty said the request would
be taken up with the president.
The Madison daily leader. [volume] (Madison, S.D.) 1890-current, 1915-10-21
RHEUMATISM AND ALLIED PAINS
THEY MUST GO

The congestion of the blood in its flow
causes pain. Sloan's liniment penetrates
to the congestion and starts the blood to
flow freely. The body's warmth is re-
newed; the pain is gone. h man or
woman who has rheumatism, neuralgia
or other pain and fails to keep Sloan's
Liniment in their home is like a drown
ing man refusing a rope" Why suffer.
Get a bottle of Sloan's. 25c and soc.
81 bottle holds six times as much as
Csc size.