Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1915-01-15

person presenting them desires the same
to be referred: and striking out in line
IS the word five. and substituting
therefor the word -four, so that said
paragraph, as amended, shall, read as
follows:
Section 46. All petitions. memorials
and other papers addressed to the House,
and all bills and resolves to be introduced
name of the person presenting them and
with the subject matter Of the same, and
shall be placed by the member present.
ing them in box placed for that pur-
pose In front of the clerks desk. All
such petitions. memorials, papers. bills
and resolves which are deposited In said
box before four o'clock In the afternoon
of each day shall be removed therefrom
by the clerk, and shall be introduced and
received in the House on the following
day, at which time they shall be pre-
scented to the House by the Speaker. or
such other person as the Speaker may
request, and referred to the proper COM
mittees, unless the House shall otherwise
order
The order received a passage
At this point the Senate came in and
joint convention was formed.
In Convention
president Hersey in the chair)
Chairman HERSEY: The joint con-
vention will be in order. The Chair
wishes to state that the organization of
the joint convention is made up Of the
roll Of both branches Of the LEGISLATURE
This roll upon which we are voting was
made up several days ago. Before we
commence the business of this convention
and before we have our usual roll-call,
the Chair will direct and instruct the
secretary Of this convention to strike
from that roll the name of Leyite V.
Thihodeau Of Van Buren. and to add
to this roll the name of Fortunat 0.
Michaud of Van Buren,.
Seator COLE Of York: Mr.. Chairman
hardly know what to say to a ruling of
tnat Kind by the chairman Of this joint
convention, nor do know what authority
the chairman Of this joint convention has
to make an arbitrary order whereby the
name of member who has been a mem
Der Of this joint convention. upon the
official roll-call. shall be stricken from
that roll and the name of some new man
OF whom we officially know nothing,
shall be substituted for it. 1t seems to
me there should be some official COM
munication from some source or other
to this joint convention whereby this
joint convention, which has to be the
judge OF its own membership, should be
informed why such change should be
made
1t seems to me, gentlemen, that we are
here doing business in an official capac-
ity. as members Of the Senate and House
OF Representatives. and I do not remem-
Der the manic of Michaud among the
names Of Senators. And as a member OF
this Joint convention I doubt, at the pres
ent time, whether our presiding officer
has any right to make an arbitrary rul-
ing, striking out the name of one mem
Der and substituting another
This convention has no information
whereby the chairman makes such a
ruling, unless it is made up from the
program furnished the members of the
House.
In this plan of the seats OF members
Of the House, and in seat l09, the name OF
MichaIud is printed in there. And I was
very much surprised when it was called
to my attention that Michaud's name
had been printed in there some days ago
do not know that any member of this
House, l have not been informed that
any member knew there was u member
of the House by the name OF Michaud
II so. it seems to me there should De
some communication from the House.
from some official who is connected with
this joint convention. I therefore re-
spectfully appeal from the decision OF
the Chair.
Chairman HERSEY: The chair wishes
to state. and it is the duty of the Chair
TO give reason for any ruling it may
make where there Is any question made
The roll of this convention is made up
by the Chair, by taking the roll of the
House as furnished by the clerk of the
House and the roll of the Senate as fur
nished by the Secretary of the Senate.
and combining them alphabetically.
That was what was done some days ago
1t is true that no official action has been
brought to the attention of the Chair,
but the Chair, as 4 member of this joint
convention, and as a member of this
Legislature. must recognize some things.
The Chair was present yesterday in this
hall of Representatives when the House
OF Representatives unseated by a vote
the gentleman from Van Buren,. Mr..
Thibodeau, and seated in his stead Fort
unat o. Michaud of Van Buren,. That
much came to the knowledge of the
Chair. If l am wrong in changing the
membership of the House. the clerk OF
the House sits here and he can correct
me.
Clerk HARVEY Of the House: Mr..
Chairman. according to my records you
are correct My record shows that For
tunat o. Michaud of Van Buren, has
taken the place Of Levite " Thibodeau
OF Van Buren,. as the representative
from that class. and he has been duly
qualified and taken his seat. l will also
say, If you will allow me, that the COPY
for this House diagram, to which Senator
Cole has referred, was sent to the Office
correctly. with the name Of Mr. Thibo-
deau in its proper place in the copy
Chairman HERSEY: The Chair rules
that the Clerk is out of order in going
into the details OF this matter The
Chair may be wrong, but the Chair feels
that there is no way in which this con-
vention can vote as to what shall con-
stitute Its membership; that by custom
and usage the joint convention must be
made up by the Chair from a roll-call,
and that nobody else has any right to