The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1915-05-06
MAY NOT TESTIFY
ON CERTAIN PARTS
Roosevelt Prevented from Relating Con-
ditions in Albany County and
City Affairs.

| Syracuse, N. ", May 6.-By ruling
made in supreme court to-day, Theodore
Roosevelt was prevented from testifyina
in regard to conditions in Albany county
and city affairs. Justice Andrews de-
cided against the defense after counsel
of the former president had made
lengthy arguments.
| Colonel Roosevelt resumed the stand
Immediately afterward for ross.exami-
nation in the Barnes libel suit, but. CON
trary to the expectation, counsel for
Barnes announced that he did not care
to ask any questions regarding yester-
days testimony.
| The ethics OF boss rule and machine
| politics, as Roosevelt claims they were
expounded by Barnes, were related by
the former president late yesterday.
The colonel swore that Mr.. Barnes had
told him that the 'rff-saff' could not be
trusted to handle political affairs with
out leader. and had expressed himself
as being in favor OF the Democratic and
Republican organization combining to
defeat legislation providing for direct
primaries.
The colonel went on the stand at the
end of day congested with testimony
about public printing and public money.
He related what he alleged to be the
substance of conversations he had with
the former chairman Of the Republican
state committee over period lasting
from 1898 until he lett the White House
He told his story with all the foreeful-
ness at his command. In part it fol-
lows:
"Mr. Barnes and ! had many converse
tions upon the nature OF the boss ana
the domination Of the machine. There
was more than one conversation con
cerning the franchise tax bill. There
were some before Payne was removed
they were in the spring OF 1899 and
again in the beginning Of 1900. Those
were upon the power and
necessity for the machine under our sys
tenn to party government.
= Generally our conversations were held |
in the executive mansion at Albany. We |
were entirely alone. Others were held |
in the governors and secretary's cham.
ber in the executive offices at the capi-
tol. We were entirely alone there, too.
"Other converse tians were held in the
room and probably other per
sons were there. One OF the converse
tions was Just prior to the appointment
Of successor to Payne (who had been
from the office of state super
ntendent OF insurance.. ! mentioned
70 Mr.. Barnes conversation | had with
Platt, He told me-"
An objection by Mr.. Barnes counsel
% what Mr.. Platt told the colonel was
sustained. The colonel continued
well the substances of our converse
ion was this; Mr.. Barnes said it was
necessary that the head of the organ
zation should have complete control
md he instanced Albany county. He said
he riff-raf could not be trusted TO han
Tie political affairs without leader
ie said they would misconduct them.
elves at the expense OF property and
hat the government could not go on.
"He said il was not necessary for the |
'oss to issue orders to executive officials
nd legislators and that they found out Z
or themselves that il they did not sup
ort the organization they could not get {
ills through they would not be renom. :
mated and they could not secure funds I
nth which 10 carry on campaigns. He I
aid il was to their interest TO find out I
hat they should do and then do il. I
"MT. Barnes said: You know the sen. :
tor does not bully. He does not have q
D. He said il WAS quite sufficient 10 q
ave il understood that II man did c
OF stand by the organizations he got a
unshed."