New-York tribune., 1915-03-24

door. DR.. Sullivan lie the room about
the same time.
live automobiles, containing the
Commissioner, the lawyers and news
paper men, set out at good galt lot
Haverstraw. Three miles this side OF
Haverstraw the run is eleven miles
the occupants of a machine from Hav-
erstraw waved to a group OF reporters
who were in the leading car and
shouted, What is the matter!'
They pointed TO a speeding gray car
-Fox's turning over the crest OF the
hill a mile ahead. When the reporters
arrived at the Ludwig home Fox and
T.. Sullivan were in front OF the house
They went into a very small room
In the rear Of the house. Fox took
position in a quiet corner, at the
greatest distance from the bed on
which Ludwig, young man. lay clad
in underclothes. His wife stood near
the bed. A white cloth was bound
around Ludwig's head.
Temperature at Normal.
Or. Sullivan stepped over and took
Ludwig's temperature.
at is normal now" he announced
Ludwig at the start shattered the
testimony of his brother-in-lsw. He
denied he stood at the window with
Seibold on the day Of the murder.
81 was not there at ALL he SAID
"and | didn't see Cleary or Fox"
lie said Seibold had come to him IN
the backward later on and had handed
him an automatic pistol with rake
this up to Fox's."
There had been no conversation
about the weapon. he said, and he took
the pistol 10 the saloon and passed II
TO Harry Hughes. the bartender.
Mr.. Striker then told him that Sell
hold had sworn that Ludwig and Sci
bold were at the window and saw
Clearv and Fox go by. Ludwig's face
EXPRESSED surprise, and he then SAID:
"Well. guess | was there with him
and saw Cleary and Fox.
Iudwie said he could not explain
how Harvey De Baum and Frank Co
mesky. the latter Cleary's attorney
had been retained 10 defend him. he
had not sought them and had not been
asked TO nav them. He swore persist
entity that he had not said v,'rd to
any one about the gun from the day
of the murder up TO to-day.
~ can't help it, it's true he in
sisted when this statement was ques'
toned.
The marty then set out for the Towr
Hall At the entrance TO the building
stood another of Cleary's worshippers
Chief of Police Michael Ford, who ma
sworn Cleary used his gun TO XII
Newman.
Murder Scene Acted.
Ambrose Cleary, brother OF The
SLAYER and his successor as Towr
/ Clerk. stood on the Threshold, where
he remained while. Gagan acted ou
the murder scene for Commissioner
Hotchkiss and the lawyers.
When court was resumed on the re
/ turn from Haverstraw, Mr.. Hotchkls:
ordered Seibold to take the stand. Th'
| Commissioner handled the youth him
/ self. Il developed that an hour Prev
Gus Mr.. Hotchkiss had ordered Seibolt
/ 70 come to his room and given him al
opportunity to retract his doubted tes
/ tlmOny.
Seibold insisted he had told the trutf
/ at all times. Further question:
/ brought out the fact that just afte'
/ tho autos had started for HaverstraV
/ in the morning Seibold telephoned Il
! tis sister, asking her to inform hel
husband. Charles Ludwig, that thu
Commissioner and the lawyers were
going over to question him.
Seibold said he had discussed th'
case with Fox at the noon recess. Fo'
was put on the stand and denied tha
Seibold and he had talked the cast
over.
Harry Hughes. to whom Ludwil
handed the mysterious gun, testified
that Ludwig had told him, in givint
/ him the gun on the murder night, tha'
"Cleary had killed feller." Ludwig
/ in the morning. had denied this.
An attempt will be made tomorrow
morning to get some explanation of thu
numerous discrepancies in testimony
on the same point.