The Detroit times., 1915-01-20
DAY OF "PUBLIC
BE DAMNED" CORPORA
TION HAS PASSED

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country. declaring it sheer non
sense"
Prof. jacob II. ,Hollander, of Johns
Hopkins university, Baltimore, told
the commission that industrial unrest
Is due entirely TO poverty and not to
pauperism.
This is not the consequence OF the
lack of wealth" he said "or OF insuf-
ticient production. but is due entirely
TO improper distribution. Trades un-
ionism is very desirable as correc-
tive, but II is by no means panacea.'
Edmund s Brennan. a special in
vestigator OF the federal Industrial
commission, who has made a special
study of violence and strikes, was
sent today TO Roosevelt n. j., TO in
quire into the fatal riot which took
place there yesterday.
Schiff was the first witness.
Only when there was actual labor
trouble did he concern himself with
the personnel of the various concerns
OF which he was a director he said
In your opinion, Mr.. Schifr. to what
extent are directors responsible for
labor troubles" Chairman Walsh ask
ed
II don't consider they are response
BILE at all or course, they should try
to see that proper conditions prevail.
But they cannot interfere with the
technical operation OF plants"
Asked point blank why, IL public
opinion was such corrective, the
mine owners OF Colorado have so de-
fed IL, he declared:
In my opinion the last word In
Colorado has not yet been written"
Schiff placed his approval on pre-
ventative charity, insisting that 1t was
the only solution OF the problem.
I'VE should -AHd- proper employment
for everyone who wants to work" he
said. Even the crippled could work
IL the government, through its insti-
tutions, showed them how.
I'VE ought also TO have some
method where loans could be made
TO the needy TO tide them through ad.
verse circumstances; loans that
would be repaid and that would not
rob them of their selfrespect.
But the big problem Is to bring the
worker and the job together. do
not believe that employment agencies
can be successfully conducted unless
the nited States government itself
takes things into its own hands
Our whole east is congested, espe-
cially our cities. The government
should solve the distribution or this
labor"
Schiff vetoed the suggestion that the
government should be represented on
the boards OF the various charitable
''I believe" he said, that the boards
of these organizations are made up
OF men who are genuinely philan-
thropic 1t would be grave mistake
to bring into these great charities the
political element"
Schiff said that he believed in trades
unionism
do you know that the Western I'm
ion Telegraph Co. maintains black
list of men who cannot secure employ
ment from II because they are union.
lists who endeavored to organibze that
company's employees" Walsh demand.
ed. 3
"I do not believe that the Western
Union company has such list was
the reply.
Schlff characterized the new bank
ing law as the most progressive piece
OF legislation enacted In half cen
tury.
The labor problem from the capital
lists point of view was today the chief
objective OF the commission. II Is
planned during the rest Of the week
TO call the men who handle big in
vestments TO tell how they believe In
dustrial unrest can be remedied
Today's list OF witnesses included
Jacob II. Hollander OF Johns Hopkins
Baltimore. noted econ
omist. Jacob II. Schiff, responsible
head OF the international banking
firm of Kuhn. Loeb and company;
August Belmont and Adolph Lew
isohn, bankers. Tomorrow Z. J. Ber-
wind, millionaire coal operator; J. p.
Morgan, George w. Perkins, Daniel
Guggenheim. and Samuel McRoberts
are scheduled.
I'VE hope TO determine through
these men, the biggest financiers in
the country, just what the chief OBJ
stacle Is to a complete understanding
between capital and labor" explained
Chairman Walsh today. I'm the past
hearings the labor men have blamed
the employer and the employer, while
blaming labor. has also indicated that
some of the big men who control cap
ital actually are responsible. With
men like Messrs. Schif. Morgan and
the others here we can at least get
their views and find out whether they
can suggest the solution that mp 10
the present Is missing"