New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-01-28

"Nlight it be possible Mr.. Garretson
continued. chat "A foundation OF the
character OF. some that exist, that with
a change of personnel-and ! am ap-
nlyinr this absolutely TO condition
which may arise after the present
generation is gone that with per
sonnet devoting The potential power 10
q domination Of the educational, As
outlined in the resolution passed ny
the Educational Association. TO inc
spiritual. as applied 10 the endowment
of churches or Of theological UNI
vcrsities 10 the social. IS apphcd by
ordinary. we'll recognized method' o.
moulding public opinion
foundation OF that character. seli-pet-
petuating in its nature. exercise az III
fuence that would he deady TO nDerai,
ism? go no further tnan Liberalism
at is remotely possible. Mr.. HarteI-
son. but M answer would be that WIN
the power OF the Legislature to amend
and restrict in any way that suGh
nower at any time ought TO be sum
cient TO safeguard that possloill'E'
FoIlowing Mr.. Rockefeller's answer
IN a later question, the Commissioner
remarked: =.
You're like the church growing IN
/ 81 hone il is true" the witness said.
A discussion of the publicity work
! done by Ivy l.. Lee then came up ana
Mr.. Rockefeller was asked the duties
: of a publicity agent
! IL don't know; | never was one, the
witness replied. III
! as il his function to tell the truth
the whole truth and nothing but the
/ truth, or is it to tell just enough 10
make what he tells sound plausible
Mr.. Rockefeller leaned foYard and
his face assumed a profoundly serious
mien. go -.
"If he hadn't that first qualification
TO toll the truth, the whole truth ana
nothing but the truth. and attempted
TO tell or write anything else. should
not have him associated with me IN
any way. / regard truthfulness as the
prime qualification"
would you expect TO find that hiho
OF publicity agent in the regular
trade ?"
81 can't answer that question,
laughed Mr.. Rockefeller.
Willing to Help Labor.
Commissioner Ballard asked Mr
Rockefeller if he thought capital was
tending more now to hasten the day
when corporation built schools and hos
pitfalls in mining towns would pass lnt'
public control. ~ A..
81 am glad to say that ] think thu
employing class is giving more con
sideration to the laboring class, I'M
witness responded. 81 thing the day u
being FASTENED. am willing to eKtent
p helping hand TO labor.
Commissioner Weinstock took up M
questioning. He PERSONAL y paid higl
tribute 10 the treatment OF employees pl
the Standard Oil Company mention
ing that organization for the iirst tlm'
since Mr.. Rockefeller took the stand
in the West. and asked the witness wh,
his father did not turn back his earn
ings from Colorado Fuel and lroi
stock.
"There seems to be misunder
standing" the witness said. THE sur
plus in that company was not devote'
Ia my fathers investment. IL wen
back into the company for improve
ment. Just because he does not Nee
that specifc amount to feed ant
clothe himself. the public seems &
have the idea that he should turn
back into the company.
"Uaye Won heard or read that CAPT
taj rets 90 per cent of the money pro
duced and labor only 10 per cent:
THAT has familiar sound MI
Rockefeller smiled.
Commissioner Weinstock read irof
the last report issued by the company
On the basis Of the figures he worke
out that of every dollar earned by IN
company 80 cents went TO labor.
triAe over 81 cents for other expense
and fraction more than cents I
capital.
IA large part Of that nine, cents
the witness said. was devoted TO IN
payment Of interest on the debt.
was not all profit
A recess for luncheon was elare'
! Mother Jones waited IN the receptlo
! room for Mr.. Rockefeller. He did nc
! anticipate the meeting; he though u
social feature Of the day had pssse
when. in the morning, ne was gre ste
by Mrs. Bella ALDERMAN, who mad mel
his hand as she poured out her hesl
y 10 him.
Chats With Mother Jones.
y But Mother Jones had primed ne
4 self for hours for the meeting Wh'
4 MIR. Rockefeller saw her he shook n
hand and said:
q They're not through with me ne
vet. otherwise We could have had IN
Z talk we were speaking Of. count
q you for = great deal OF hope IN stud
4 ing out the Colorado situation, ana
& want you 10 go out there when ! &c
81 I'm ready 10 talk Il over with -
4 whenever you are ready" Mother JON
responded. And il you correct ia
OF the evils existing there you "
come one Of the greatest men IN u
United States
Mr.. Rockefeller smiled.
"No~, Mrs. Jones" he said with mo
reproof. 81 think you're hattering mi
II fatter!" she remarked. Il