Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1915-05-19
Colonel Roosevelt Is Emphatic In
Putting Witnesses In
AnaniaS Club.
COUNSEL SUMS UP TO-DAY
Before Tomorrow Afternoon Jury
VIII Have Famous $4,000 Dam
age Suit Brought by William
Barnes Against Former President.

hands of the jury.
Colonel Roosevelt told what he rep
resented TO be the true details OF an
interview he had about a year ago
"ith John w. Hutchinson. Jr. a New
York lawyer, who aworc on the Wit
ness stand last week that the former
President had told him that the Re
publican party is not bis enough to
hold Barnes and myself"
In regard TO that quotation. the
Colonel almost shouted that il was
false. lie said he did tell Hutchin-
son that he was willing, during the
last gubcrnatorial election In this
state. 10 support Republican can
didatc who would wage war on Re
publican and Democratic 'crookedncss,'
but that he could not be expected TO
come back into the Republican party
as long as 1t was dominated by men
OF IN. stamp Of Mr.. Barnes"
FLATLY CONTRADICTs
TESTIMONY OF BARNES
The colonel natly contradicted
Barnes testimony about the talk in the
White House over the Agnew-Hart
racing bill and about many other
things. He reiterated with added en-
paasis his statement that Barnes had
told him Of men identified with big
business interests who had contributed
large sums of money to both parties.
Barnes. under cross examination, ad-
nitted that he had been presented
with seven hundred and nifty shares OF
stock IN the J. b. Lyon COMPANY, Of
Albany He said he took the stock be-
cause he wanted TO he a business
partner OF J. E. Lyon. founder Of the
printing concern, so that he might
properly be associated with public
printing. lie said the stock was
valuelcss when he received it.
Testimony given during the early
days Of the trial was that Barnes
sold back stock in the Lyon company,
after holding II for a number Of years.
for considerable sum.
Under rc-direct examination, Barnes
swore tina, he always had the best in
,erest Of tho Republican party at heart
and that he never had done anything
which he considered might bc In the
interest Of the Democratic organiza-
ton
Other witnesses who testified were
Simon Guggenhei,n, former United
States Senator from Colorado, and VIII
liam Loeb. private secretary to Colonel
Roosevelt when nc was President. ana
later collector OF the port OF New
York.
Loeb reiterated cmphatically tina, It
was in 1911. when he met Barnes in the
office OF J. 6. Bache & co.
In MS previous testimony. he said
that as he and Barnes left the office
where they had attended q luncheon.
ne mentioned the deadlock in the Leg
islature and quoted Barnes as saying
that he could do nothing" at that
time TO end IT,
The next witness was simon Gug-
senheim. former United states Senator
from Colorado and identifed with the
Guggenhcim COPPER interests.
EX-SENATOR GUGGI:NIIElM
COKt0BORATF. LOEB
GuEgenhc!In save testimony designed
TO corroborate Loeb. He told OF I.ocbs
arranging In 1912 TO become connected
with the Gucgcnheim interests lie
said Loeb later had an arrangement
with William O.. MCAdoo, Secretary Of
the Treasury. by which he was allowed
70 have the agreement with tho Guc-
gcnhe'm interests before ne actually
Io!, the collectOrshiH.
Then Colonel Roosevelt hurried to
the witness stand. lie was asked
whether nc remembered the testimony
81 John W. Hutchinson, a New York
lawyer. He said ne did and that
Hutchinson had called up his secre-
tary and sent word that nc would like
to converse with him.
What happened
'I asked Mr. Hutchinson what he
wanted TO see ma about. he replied:
we think YOU are the only man who
can handle this Democratic admins
tration.' and he mentioned my IVtts-
burgh speech. said agreed with
him. and told him | was willing To
support Il Republican candidate for
Governor who would war on Rcpubl-
can crookcdness AS well as Democratic
crook edness l added. however, that It
was useless To ask me to return 10 tho
Republican party while il was dom-
mated by the men OF the stamp of Mr..
Barnes.
Il aid not say. as Mr.. Hutchinson tcs-
tilted, that the Republican party was
no, biz enough for me and Mr.. Barnes"
You remember the testimony Mr..
Barnes gave about the Interview lie
had with you in the White House re-
gardinG the Hart-Agnew racing bill.
DO you recall ne said that you said the
legislation must be defeated:
"Tha; is false.
lie said you cast some reflection on
Timothy Woodruff. Did YOU cast any
renection?"
TELLS OF .REFLECTION"
CAST ON wOODRUFF
"Mr. Barnes asked me why l did not
go to Mr.. Woodruff, who was chairman
Of the Republican committee. re-
piled that Mr.. Woodruff did not have
the power in the Republican orEaniZa-
ton but that he USarnes) did. L don't
know whether that is any reflection"
Now you remember what Mr.. Barnes
testified TO in regard To that meeting
at oyster Bay in 1908? Yes? Well,
what did you say about Governor
Hughes them
There were several other gentle
men there | turned to Mr.. Barnes
and said: L suppose YOU will oppose
Mr.. Hughes to the end, hut I have
hopes for the other gentlemen"
"Now, about that meeting in 1910
with Mr.. Barnes when James S. Shcr-
man was chosen temporary chairman
OF the state convention, do you re-
member that?"
perfectly. Mr.. Barnes said in sub
stance that he and the organization
had been my friends and were friendly
to mo and expected TO support me. Tic
said they felt more kindly toward me
than toward Mr.. Taft and that in the
Sherman business. Mr.. Taft had tried
to double-cross them. He said Hughes
was out of the state. He said II was
foolish for me to become allied with
tho supporters OF Taft.