Perth Amboy evening news., 1915-04-23
Former President Says Barnes
Has Two Sides, Good and
Bad, in His Policies.
NO HOPE FOR HIS REFORM
Says G. 0. P. Leader Said Peo-
pie Were Unable to Govern
Themselves.
T. R. MEANT NO MALICE
Never Intended to Make Any
Wanton Attack on Mr..
Barnes, He Asserts.
Special By United Press Wire.

Syracuse, N. Y, April 23:-A s'Dr.
Jekyl and Mr.. Hyde" of Politics. was
the character figure of William
Barnes graphically drawn by Colonel
Roosevelt. The former President
said Barnes had two sides, good and
bad, and that for years he tried to
develop the good, make him useful
public citizen and finally gave up
nope or his reform in 1911. Roose-
velt frankly analyzed Barnes char
acter, his moral standards political
ly, while Barnes gazed at him in rapt
attention. In detail, Roosevelt told
OF former friendship, of his efforts
to bring out the good in Barnes. He
said he frequently demonstrated with
Barnes, who said the people were
unable to govern themselves. He
was emphatic but without temper in
describing Barnes who, he said. like
many other politicians, had two
moral standards, one for public and
one for private life Without praise
he said he regarded Barnes as hay
ing great potential ability and power
II ne would only develop the good
side."
never meant to make any malic-
1ous or wanton attacks on Mr..
Barnes. / never meant to make any
attack on him II I could avoid it.
When attack nnI2a rnes III was
not wantonly.
e. While thar
n ., !. were many sharr
clashes between the witness and Mr
WINS, the cross examination was AZ
| most devoid Of rancor. Barnes at
/ torney quoted sRooseveIt's Autobf-
ography to show disinterested men
or high character were among those
VINO helped Boss Platt.
Did you mean to include Mr..
barnes among those men?''
i did not include Mr.. Barnes. y
Roosevelt said, with emphasis on the
not ~ - =
Then why did you consult. advise
and associate with him?"
Because I thought he was about
the average political leader. | be-
ileve he had it in him to become a
useful public servant. l never broke
with any man until I believed him
hopeless to get his good side
Then you regarded Mr.. Barnes as
"a DR.. Jekyl and Mr.. Hyde?'o
Il did, as l did most of them"
When you appointed Mr.. Barnes
to office was 1t the DIR. Jekyl or the
Mr.. Hyde you appointed?"
: did the best | could to get the
DIR. JekyP out of him and | did not
abandon hope until 1911"
Then the question of seyering
those ligaments of those siamese
character twins of Jekyl and HYDE
didn't arrive until you and he dis
agreed?"
1T was absorption of the good by
the bad
Barnes sat facing Roosevelt during
the long analysis of his character by
the colonel. He showed no emotion.
New York's political history were
brought from musty files and illum-
ined by Col. Roosevelt. Letters from
the colonel's own files, subpoenaed
and produced for Barnes, were intro
duced into the testimony.
Roosevelt's explanation of how he
worked with the Republican machine
but was not creature of it, left In
doubt how the jury will take the dis
closures. Today was Roosevelt's
fourth day on the witness stand. AT
torney WINS for Barnes, hoped to |
conclude the colonel's cross examina- |
tion today, but said that he might |
not be able to finish with the colonel |
before Monday. That the trial will |
take all of next week and possibly |
run over into the following week was |
predicted by both sides today.
For the first time during the trial |
Roosevelt and Barnes bumped
squarely into each other in a hotel. |
As Barnes stepped out of an ele-
Tator he almost eollided with Roose-
relt, who was entering They halt
ID, eyed each other from top to toe
ind quickly separated without a
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