The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-12-22
AMATEUR CONGRESS
TO RULE ON PRIZES
Question Overlooked in Orig
nal Suggestions. but Will
BE Dealt With.
WILL WELCOME ADVICE

Leaders in all branches Of amateur
sport expressed great interest yesterday
in the published suggestions az 20 the
definition and scope Of an amateur which
will be considered at a congress OF dele
gates from governing bodies to be held
AZ the Hotel Astor next Monday. Gus
ia T. Kirby and his associates on
the executive and advisory committees
OF the I. G. A. 4. 4. A. were congratu-
lated FOR placing the questions to be
considered in such clear form. and many
men who had refused to believe there
was a chance of arriving at a cono,u-
sion o. the subject that would satisfy
all besan to back water ard hope for
the best.
The wisdom Of printing the susses-
tons iona days in advance Of the con-
gress WIS exemplihed almost before the
ink on the papers was dry. One impor.
tant phase had been overlooked n that
was called to the attention of Chairman
Kirby before the day was over. In the
clauses which refer to the acts for which
an amateur shall be debarred from COM
petition. there was no reference to the
man who cells or pawns his prizes.
Mr.. Kirby said that he was glad his
attention had been called TO this omis-
sion 40 quickly and that he would well
come n further suggestions made
either to himself or any other delegate
Though so many details had been COW
cred thoroughly on the usual line OF
reprehensive acts IL was strange that no
one had brought up the question OF what
should he done to n man who disposed
OF his prizes for money.
Tbl. -tsN - t-l T.. al.
lions when they are presented for ac-
ton Monday. and as a matter OF fact II
opens up another avenue for discussion
as TO the character of prizes. The
Amateur Athletic Union. for instance. is
very stric; In limiting not only the value
but the character OF the prizes. MIR.
Kirby said that personally he did not
care how valuable was the prize 30 LON
as the IA winning It did not dispose
of 1t. lie had studied the question at
the time OF the International Amateur
Athletic Federation meeting In Paris and
referred to n conversation with an Eng
lishman who spoke of the expression
get the cake THAT came from cakes
being given for prizes and II was not
long before the general idea prevailed
that amateurs should not receive prizes
that would not Keep. Something OF this
character Is likely to be l~nterpolated In
''' nv W "
return TO the old cycling days when
Arthur Zimmerman and his fellow
amateurs raced for u team Of horses or
even y house aud lot.
I'm explaining the claJsc relating -
the association Of amateurs with pro-
fesslnoals Mr.. Kirby said that thor, wa
no inteution 10 force any Such body -
the Amateur Athletic Union 80 sanction
races betw'en amateurs ana pruFcs
sioftls. lie personally rather favored
the idea under exceptional ,lrcum-
stances. hut the sentiment IN tn. \. \.
L. Is strongly against Il. On the Other
hand. In golf. court tennis. billiards and
many other sports professionals AMI
amateurs meet In In" -eEular ordrr ~:
competition ard without any apparent
harm tr.nI done.
Mr.. Is lrhy pointed out that should th.s
clause he ad0ptcd tho \. \. l.. can M
corporal" II IN it, constitution without:
In any way recediuG rom it, pos is.
tand on this matter. II supply stipu-
lates that a professional aud a. tnisteu"
cannot ,Jnpctc together cScfp; with tn
consent "f the governing body. md tina
permission the \, y. l.. IN all p"uunbil-
ity never WOULD give.