South Bend news-times. (South Bend, Ind.) 1913-1938, 1915-04-23
CrOSS-ExaminatiOn of Colonel
Leads to Fireworks" in
Court and Barnes Counsel
Draws Rebuke.
ASSERTS COP. LEADER
WAS JEKYLL AND HYDE
Defendant TeStifieS He Severed
Relations with the Plaintiff
When Hyde" Began TO Get
the Upper Hand.

COURT HOUSE. SYRACUSE. Y.
Y, April 23.-Damon and Pythias
and David and Jonathan were NO
more devoted TO each others inter-
ests than were Theodore, Roosevelt
and William Barnes before the colo
mel discovered. he said. that Sir
Barnes was a Dr. Jekyll and a Mr.
Hyde
When Mr. Hyde got the upper hand
Of the combination Mr.. Roosevelt ana
Mr.. Barnes fell out.
The colonel was interested in
Barnes because he was trying To re-
form him, according TO Roosevelts
testimony under cross examination
by William NJ. WINS. today. He be-
lieved Barnes above tht average
politician morally. ne said. and he
wanted 10 make Barnes a useful ciu-
zen.
According TO the colonel. Mr
Barnes was a Jekyll and Hyde and he
wanted 10 preserve DIR. JekyI. but
Mr.. Hyde absorbed him. When Mr.
Hyde got the upper hand in 1911. the
colonel and Mr. Barnes came 10 the
parting of the ways. But letters
passed between Barnes and Roosevelt
IN lSSS-lS99 showing an extremely
friendly tone and Roosevelt admitted
that he entertained Mr.. Barnes and
MS wife in the white house al Wash
ington and the executive mansion al
Albany.
Attorney Is Rebuked
Mr. Roosevelt was still the hero Of
the court room crowd as he literally
fought his way cut % luncheon when
court recessed.
The morning session Of the colo
nels fourth day on the witness stand
was marked by frequent clashes with
Mr. WINS.
Mr.. WINS sought at every turn to
c6nilne the cOlOnels anSW ers and won
for himself a stern rebuke from
Justice Andrews when he demanded
that this witness is apparent from to-
day 5 sharp encounters mat the colo
nels had proved a Tartar TO Mr..
WINS and was not being led into amy
subtle trap by the chief counsel for
Mr.. Barnes.
Col Roosevelt was called to the
stand for further cross examination
when court reconvened. lie was
smiling as he took his seat. but did
not glance in the direction OF AIr.
Barnes.
Questioned About Legislature.
The first question put 10 the colonel
Dy Mr. Wins dealt with the Albany
legislature, while Roosevelt was gov
ernor.
who were the leaders in Albany
them asked Mr.. WINS.
i do not know" said the colonel
Who was the chairman OF the
finance committee and the ways and
means committee"
Il remember that Mr.. Higgins (once
GOVERNOR was chairman of the finance
committee"
who was chairman OF the ways
and means committee "
Il do not remember"
Shall 1 consult the records % asked
WINS.
4 do not need my memory refresh
ed said the colonel with a smile.
DO you not remember that Mr..
Aids was that chairman 2'
Did you veto any appropriation
bills prepared by these committees go
Mr.. Roosevelt did not remember,
but said the records would show.
who was the democratic leader in
the state at that timer" asked Mr..
WINS
The democratic leadership was
held in commission. Mr. David b Hill
was the upstate leader with Richard
Croker as leader in New York city.
Croker's power rapidly growing a. the
expense Of Hlll," answered the colo
mel.
What was the standing OF Mr..
HIP"
He was not so influential as ar.
Platt and Mr.. Odeli,' said Mr. EOOse-
velt.
Lawyer Draws Rebuke.
The quiz then turned on the PAYNE
matter which brought forth the fire
works.
Mr. Roosevelt said ne had enter
tanned William Barnes az his house
but never met him alone.
7 extended my hospitality 10 Mr.
Barnes In Washington he said
And in Albany"
I believe So
And 10 Mrs Barnes ."
And 20 Mrs. Barnes" said the
colonel. repeating the question. but I
never held a meeting with him alone"
Mr. Roosevelt was asked why. III ne
though Mr.. Barnes corrupt. he enter
.ained him. advised with him and con-
suited with him.
Because, Mr. WINS started the
colonel.
q insist this witness must ansU er
ny questions yes or nO'-Wheu pos
sible." shouted Mr. WINS
He cannot answer yes or no. TO
hat" said Mr.. Bowers.
"I want 90 tell the jury. said Roos-
avelt yes. YOU are telling the jury
/ lot OF things retOrted IFIus
The court instructed Roosevelt 20
answer yes or "no' when possible
and then amDlify his answers
The question was then repeated q
advised with Air. Barnes said the
colonel. 'becsuse ] found Mr Barnes
hove the AVERAGE OF ordinary pO-