Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1915-05-13
John Hutchinson and Viii
liam Woolman Go on the
Stand in Trial Of Libel
Suit in Effort to Refute
Testimony of Defense
REPU UBLICAN PARTY
NEEDED ROOSEVELT
Testimony is That Less
Than Year Ago Colonel
/ Agreed Party n eed e d
Him and He Would Go
After President Wilson
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SYRACUSE, May John Hutch
nson, New York lawyer, a wit
ness for William Barnes, swore in the
supreme court at the trial of the
Barnes suit for libel against Colonel
Theodore Roosevelt that less than a
wear ago the Colonel agreed that the
republican party needed him. and he
said he would go after President VIII
son with his Pittsburg speech on for
eign treaties and tear him to pieces.
Other witnesses testified in an effort
to break down the defense Of Colonel
Roosevelt
Hutchinson. who was chairman of
the speakers bureau of the republican
state committee from 1906 to 1912. also
declared the former president had as
serted that after what happened in
Chicago in 1912 the republican party
vas not big enough to hold him and
Barnes. Hutchinson went on the stand
after William WOolman, q New York
broker. had contradicted the state
mcnts made last week by William Loeb,
private secretary of Roosevelt when he
was president. and later collector of the
port of New York. Loeb testified that
ne had talked with Barnes at Wool
mans office in 1911 when the state
senate was dcadlocked over the selec-
ton of United States senator to sue
ceed Chauncey NJ. DepeW.
Under oath he said he had talked
with Barnes about the deadlock. and
that Barnes said he could do nothing
at that time to end it. Woolman said
he had never seen Loeb until Novem-
Der. 1872 after Woodrow Wilson was
elected president.
The majority of the witnesses who
preceded or followed Mr.. Woolman and
Hutchinson on the stand gave testi-
mony designed to show that Mr.. Barnes
and Charles Murphy Of Tammany Hall
were not political allies at the time of
the deadlock in the state legislature, in
contradiction of the witnesses who
testified fo- Colonel Roosevelt.
Reniamin Odell. former governor and
republican leader of New York. and at
ono time member of congress. testi-
fled principally about the early politi
cal career of Mr. Barnes and campaign
contributions He denied any demo-
Gratis "as individuals" contributed to
the republican campaign fund in 1898,
and 1899. while he was chairman of
the republican state committee and
stated that no promises We're made in
return for contribution from the cor
porations.
Mr. Hutchinson said he met the
Colonel by appointment in Harvard
club in New York on July Is, 1914.
Il told him." he went on. that he
was in the way of the whole progress
sive party I said it did not make any
material difference what the progress
sive organizat ton did in the way of
candidates. There was a
rumor that Colonel Roosevelt was con-
running for governor in the
fall. That's what | wanted to find
out about | told him that it would !
make lot of difference if he took an
active position himself and that if he |
We're to oppose the republican organi- !
zation it would simply widen the |
chasm and prevent a reunion of the |
party. He said that would not do and |
added, You have to have me-. I can
60 to Mr.. Wilson and tear him to |
pieces, and you have not any body who