The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1915-04-21
TELLS HIS STORY
IN four CHAPTERS
fcontinued from page one.I


velt's counsel The subpoena calls for
Mr.. Smiths attendance on three days
This was taken as an indication that
his examination will be very thorough.
When the examination of Colonel
Roosevelt was resumed Mr. Bowers
questioned the. witness, who said:
His Talks With Barnes.
fS@etI had conversations with Mr.
election in 1908. These took place in
Washington and possibly in Oyster
Bay, too 1865
Colonel Roosevelt was. shown two
letters, the contents of which he said
he had discussed with Mr.. Barnes
NOW, what were the conversation ?''
asked Mr.. Bowers. Mr.. WINS, counsel
for Mr.. Barnes, objected to this ques
ness continued. "The conversations
had were in regard to Mr.. Barnes
domination of the party, Now, judge,
they were continued conversations. i
Senator Plat. L repeatedly referred
to the domination of tho party by
Senator Plat and Mr.. Barnes. / dis
cussed the righteousness Of boss rule.
Barnes that prior to my becoming
governor, Mr.. Platt had askd me to
come to see him in New York. 1t was
between the time I was elected and
the time I assumed office.
'I told Mr.. Barnes several persons
at that conference were taking up the
question OF
Mr. WINS interrupted with an objec-
ton which was .oyerruled.. Colonel
Roosevelt continued: .--.--.
II told Mr. Barnes that / told Mr..
Platt-rather 1 expressed surprise
that committees were being appointed
when the speaker of the assembly had
not been chosen. l also told Mr..
Barnes Mr.. Plat told me no speaker
would be chosen until a man who was
satisfactory to the organization was
1r IN rr1a
Platt was right, even after said such
government was bound to lead to rot
tenness.
had told me he had decided upon a
superintendent of public works who.
was satisfactory and that Senator
Platt had congratulated me upon get
ting such q good man..
Ivans Can't Stop Him.
WINS objected because no name was
being given for the superintendent of
public work. Mr. Bowers said:
Il don't want Mr.. WINS to act this
way; he is trying to interrupt the con-
tinuity of this testimony"
Il can't stop this witnesses's con-
tinuity,' replied Mr. WINS. while the.
crowd laughed. s.
"the man was Francis Hendricks of
Syracuse. I told Mr.. Barnes I did not
intend any man should say whom
should appoint"
squared and he pounded on the
judges bench. He continued:
Mr.. Barnes said in reply that SEN
ator Platt was right and that the lead
er of an organization must have COM
plete control of 1t. 1t was in 1908
that I told Mr.. Barnes my views of
matters were the same as they always
were. I told Mr.. Barnes he had my
sympathy but that Governor Hughes
must be independent. I referred to
my talks and letters to Senator Plat.
Mr.. Barnes said the organization had
to be dominated and Governor Hughes
had tried to break down the organi-
zation and he would oppose Governor
Hughes's denomination" On motion
of Mr.. WINS that part of Colonel
RoQsevelt's testimony referring to Mr..
Hughes was stricken out.
In 1908 did you discuss legislation
at Albany with Barnes?'' asked Mr..
Bowers
Yes" replied the witness.
Mr. Barnes spoke with me gener-
ally on the subject of legislation. He
said Governor Hughes was fayoring
legislation against the interests of the
organization, and that the Democratic
organization was backing up the Re
publicans in defeating legislation fos-
tered by Governor Hughes.
Mr.. Barnes said he and his friends