Essex County herald. [volume] (Guildhall, Vt.) 1873-1964, 1915-04-02
FOURTH DEGREE
Oath OF K. c.
Continued from last week.

u. Are there obligations taken in
each of the degrees.-A In each
one; yes, sir.
@. Are each of the four obliga-
tions different one from the other.
"A. Yes, sir. There are only two
principal obligations, the one fol-
lowing at the third degree and the
other in the fourth.
@. Is there anything in those
oaths-A. Which oaths?
@. Well, We are all wrong about
calling them oaths; we all mean the
same thing That is right, if
you mean it, but | can't answer the
question with the word oath in it.
@. Well, I'll try to call it obliga-
tion.-A. All right.
@. You stated that in some of
those oaths there is requirement.
or in some of those obligati tions there
is requirement to remain members
of the Catholic Church. "A. No;,was
that my wording?
@. That's the way | took it down.
"A. That's the intent, but that's
not the wording. Well, yes, I'll
take it back; they do really insist
they must remain members of the
Catholic Church in order to retain
membership in the fourth degree.
@. Yes; of the Knights of Colum-
bus?-A. Yes.
@. That's true as to each one of
the obligations Well, it isn't
so specifically stated; but the con-
stitution and bylaws of the order
provide that.
@. Is there anything in those
oaths-A. Again.
@. Oh, those obligations-which ch
has denunciation of others of other
denominat on s-w hich was-A.
Nothing.
q, Will not spare age, sex, or
condition; anything of that kind in
any of the oaths-A. No, sir.
@. Is the word spare" in any of
the oaths?-A. In what? Well, now,
is that done purposely?
@. 1t is not.-A. Well, take it as
an insult, because you are trying to
trap me into saying "oath."
@. Well, it isn't intentional; | in
form the court and jury it ISM t
intentional at all. Is the word
spare" in any of the obligations?
"A. In the sense that you mean,
spare somebody from injury?
@. Well, the word "spare"?-A.
Well, it might be; don't recall, but
in the sense of sparing anybody or
not sparing, no, sir.
@. Which has the sense of not
sparing?-A. There is no such word
nor no such sense in it.
Q. Are the words these in.
famous heretics" or words. of that
import, in any of the obligations
A. No, sir.
O. Doctor, you say one officer
gives the iobligation. You yourself
now, couldn't give verbatim any one
of the four obligations, could youi
"A. No, sir; | wouldn't attempt to
@. Is that oath written or unwrit
ten?-A. | don't understand your
question.
@. Oh, is that obligation writer
or unwritten?-A. 1t is printed.
@. And can you tell me where
may procure, where copy of thai
obligation can be procured; give me
the name and address of the person
in whose custody one is?-A. Yes
sir. Now | understand; you ash
two or three questions there to
gether. can tell the name of tn,
, person in whose custody the ritua
of the order, the unwritten work ant
the written work of the order, i
kept.
@. Well. you may do so.
By Mr.. HEssIAN. Well, object t
that as immaterial and incompetent
. What has that got to do with thi
= case?
By Mr.. MORRIS. Well, if we fin
d the oath as printed, we can compar
4 it with this.
% A. Compare with what?
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