New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-01-27

Nr Walsh TOOK up the SUBJECT OF the
educational and religious features Of
-tc Colorado and Wyoming mining
esur. lie asked Mr.. Rockefeller II
he fogcht that school teachers and
clcrcymer iu the camps should be IN
auereei by the mine officials.
"Tfa- would be hard for me TO say
v.thol. knowing all the facts the
vltuc>, replied.
An instance in which J. F. Welborn.
president of th. Colorado Fuel and
nor COMPANY. had written 10 J. Starr
Nur-ly. COMPLAINING OF the action Of a
minister 100 the Wyoming mines in
er,tr~.rc the company. was men
toned Do was limited that the clergy
NAV was to be ousted If he did not
chance his spoken views.
Defends Welborn.
"Wtat happened 20 this minister 90
Nr Walsh asked.
"I do uo. know" Mr. Rockefeller re-
spordod ID thrk the letter was very
.ir. and 3d. Wc.born showed a proper
spirit writing about the matter. In
regard .. tne subject. ! believe q min
l.tcr should ALWAYS be permitted 20
eyare Dina clt ] believe b. ,he free
dom u. speech
Sd. Walsh chen turned back TO the
Colorado strike. lie read from the
testimony of jefferson Farr. sheriff of
Huer.aio Counts, Col. before com
mttee sent 90 investigate the strike
uouble Farr testified that the Fuel
aad Iron Company mad been using its
influence .or fifteen years ~ keeping
hr r Office; that the superintendent
o. the mine had .old him the 32G spe-
Cal leruf.s who were sworn IN Tor the
strike v... 90 be given arms and would
be- pa or tnc company.
"i am not fam liar with the strike.
said Che witness. so don't see how
Can sass anything.
Are YOU opposed TO interference
with lhc operation OF democratic
form 81 government
Il am opposed 10 anything which
inierferes with it, But as TO any one
Of the items in connection with the
strike. cannot pass on II, for ] must
know an the circumstances hrst. II
fhc Colorado Fuel and Iron Company
-e't t.at danger 10 the company and
.ts EMPLOYEES was threatened, / think
that. n view Of the circumstances.
'iey would be- justified IN taking steps
lor protection.
q m.au this. of course. 70 apply in
cases where the ordinary forms OF pro-
lection arc inadequate and Immediate
action I- necessary. Whatever meas
urc, arc necessary 10 protect life and
property should be taken. / think. In
the case Of q burglar breaking into my
house and threatening the lives Of my
wife and family ] might find il neces-
Sary 10 take steps TO protect them
which 7 might not want TO take, but
which the emergency justified.
against Politics in Business.
"Whtc think that the government
is strong enough 10 preserve law and
order. occasionally it is shown that the
forces are not large enough in some
places. az in Colorado at the time OF
the strike
III sou found that an executive Of
hcer Of YOUR company was bringing the
corporation into politics what action
would YOU take
As a director sand a stakeholder,
SHOULD do all | could TO prevent II, Tor
utterly diSbelieve in such acts.
Are YOU aware that in Huerfano
County no Verdicts have been rendered
in death and injury cases In twenty
three years"
- don't know anything about that.
But | can't make il too strong that ]
sbhor anything subyersive OF honest
60, ernment.
A letter sent 20 the commission by
" J. Dalton. OF SCI East 10th St,
C'c.ol.rd. was read. Dalton said he
had worked i'm the Colorado mine, had
been injured five or six times, but had
been unable 20 get any satisfaction
srom the mine owners. Mr.. Rockefeller
made memorandum and said he Would
looi into The case.
Ir answer 20 "a question Mr.. Rocke-
felcr said he had not been so Tor
tursfc" a. 90 hear Henry Ford TESTIFY
and had skinned over the newspaper
storic. of tho automobile man teSn
morv What Mr. Ford has done Tor
his employees was taken IN.
"Iue- minute. Mr.. Chairman: the
w.inc.. Said. "Mr. Ford's testimony
said his company was making great
deal OF money. 4 department such as
he runs for the study of his men when
they leave the shops is all right and,
think. very good th.ng, but in the case
Of the Colorado Fuel and Iron ComnanN
the stockholders haven't been paid III
fourteen years-if they ever were. Oi
course. something should be done IN
the way of improving labor condiuohs
there but some attention must be gwen
10 the stockholders. They may ge'
tired of leaving their money IN there
think 10 is better 20 deal with these
ihi,gs fairly we'll than not at all
Avoids Pronouncements.
After Nr. Walsh. for the fifth time
had failed 90 get direct answer. from
ne witness on the question OF Whethe,,
no believed employers interests couiu
b. depended on 90 safeguard voluhtarli!
and all The time the interests OF en-
p'oves. Mr Rockefeller said; c...
ar Chairman. IL seems hardly fitting
ior me 20 make pronouncements
an not seeking 10 evade your questions,
Sat ! cannot give my views "heIe
lsve not formulated them.
Referring 20 my stand on the labor
question. ! want TO correct a matter:
Ny testimony before the Congressiona!
eommt.ec has been publicly construed
declaration Of war against unions
That IS a demonstration ] hold II
Principle of Justice and right Tor men
q organize"
little later Mr. Rockefeller said ne
osa had opportunity at luncheon 70
'alyze the question concerning the oe-
ependablity Of employing interests 10
e'sgyarding the interests Of employees
DIS answer was "NO.'
az Walsh went back 20 the invest
'hi Of The senior Rockefeller IN COLO,
~ Frd and Iron stock. lie figured
~ "a NE salaries paid the $1,000 en-
we amounted 80 ten times the hold
OF Mr. Rockefeller in that com
~, Mr. Rockefeller. sr.. has been
's but 33z per cent on his stock