Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1915-05-19

urged public ownership of lands,
mines. forests and railroads.
Grave Is Final Remedy.
There Is no final remedy for un-
rest except the grave" said barrow.
Commissioner Weinstock questioned
barrow on military operation in
strikes
III a constable seeks 10 arrest a
man without authority the man ought
TO have right to resist" said barrow.
IT the militia attacks people brutally
and without authority they should be
resisted If there is q chance to resist
and win. The idea that "A man who Is
an officer can do anything is only fit
for slaves to harbor"
: Suppose in n given case strikers
should form the Judgment that acts
of the militia were unwarranted. that
violence followed in which blood was
shed and property destroyed" sug-
gested Commissioner Weinstock.
would you say the strikers should
be punished?''
suppose there was bloodshed and
destruction of property and liberty
was saved, what then" countered
barrow. There are other things to
be considered besides life and prop
erty. The liberty OF man is one
thing and must be judged by history.
There has been very little improve
ment in the world without blOodshed
II seems To be the law of nature"
DO you believe in blo0dshed?"
II neither believe nor disbelleve in
IT, 1t is nature. We would have no
government here were II not for
bloodshed. Take blodshed out of
the world aud we would still be llv-
ing in caves
Both labor and capital, he said,
looked upon strikes az warfare.
Not All Warfare Justiflable.
But everything is not iustifia BILE
war" he continued. There are many
things In the present war in Europe
that are not justified by the laws OF
humanity. But q strike is In the ma
ture of war. and employers and efn-
ployes often do many cruel and un-
necessary things that they should not
do"
DO YOU believe our liberty is o.
delusion and that we are as much
warranted in resisting authority as
the people of Russia?r Darrow was
asked.
Freedom is relative term" was
the reply. Tho poor OF the United
States are poorer than those Of Rus
STA and of Germany. They are not as
free as the people OF England"
Darrow suggested government own
ership Of coal mines and when asked
what would prevent II If the people
wanted it, replied:
Congress, the president and the
supreme court
Minimum wage. cight-hour day,
workmen's compensation and woman
suffrage laws and other achievements
of peaceful efforts. barrow character
lied as mot worth a pinch of snuff
not entirely useless, but which get at
the root Of nothing"
Discussing the boycott, Darrow de.
clared it a natural weapon men had
used from the beginning
ut comes from the philosophy Of
life" he said. ''You and boycott
someone every day. You can't help
boycotting and it Is idle to try to pre-
vent it.
DO you regard public opinion as OF
any value TO organized labor" asked
Commissioner Weinstook.
1t Is the greatest force there is
but II is not necessary to win public
respect. All that Is necessary Is to
capture the public's imagination
But for standing behind the right
as against the wrong, Darrow de-
clared, the american people are the
poorest excuses In the world"
"To capture public opinion Oar
row continued, you must capture the
press, but that is hard TO do. ! don't
know that you can do II at all"