Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1915-06-26
Counsel Told Thaw Jerome Said
He Would Use Force to Take
Him Back to New York.
JUDGE ADMITS EVIDENCE
Shurtleff's Testimony Is Telling
Point in Prisoners Fight
for Liberty.
Especial to The Times-Dispatch. ]

lberty late this afternoon, when JUS
ticc Hendrick admitted evidence show
ing Thaw's fear of kidnapping was not
condition. but "a real fear based on
threats of William Travers Jerome to
bring him back to New York by force
Mr.. Jerome told me and I told Mr.
Thaw." said Merrill Shurtleff, one OF
Thaw's New Hampshire counsel. that
if applied for bail for him, he'd take
Linn back TO New York by main force
if necessary"
Cook and Becker. battling for the
State, sought TO have the evidence
stricken out. John r. Stanchheld com
ing into the fray, drove the evidence
home.
sitting in this courtroom since the
beginning of the trial." he said i'm
pressively. lis DR.. Carlos Mcdonald,
among other experts for the State,
VINO is making note of every act of
Mr. Thaw. and particularly recording
every reference made by these wit
nesses from New Hampshire TO MIR.
Thaw's fear of kidnapping. When the
time comes, since ! know Dr. Mcdonald
well, he will take the witness stand
and, in support of his contention that
Mr.. Thaw is insane, will cite this fear
o. kidnapping AS one of Thaw's delu- :
sions. We have a right. therefore. to
have this evidence put before the jury
as tending TO show that the fear of
kidnapping was real
TESTIMONY PERMITTED
TO REMAIN IN RECORDS
Justice Hendrick permitted Shurt-
lefs testimony TO remain in the
records. Its great Importance to Thaw
lies in the fact that this fear of kid
naping is the only hint of delusons
on his part that has SO far cropped
out at the trial.
II was another day OF triumph for
Thaw. dozen more witnesses, men
and women OF standing in New Eng
land. teStifyins to their opinion of his
nationality after observing him during
the months of his residence in New
Hampshire. AT the close OF the pro-
cecdings. Stauchticld announced that
his case was closed. except for the
testimony of his alieuists. which Will
be disposed of by noon on Monday
Thaw was elated tonight.
Il don't care much about the opin-
ions of the alienists." he said but |
do bank largely on Drew and Stevens.
They knew me. Don't YOU think if I
was insane they would lave observed
some sign OF it during the sixteen
months they were constantly with
me-"
To-day. when Thaw scored his great
est triumph. was the ninth anniversary
of the shooting of Stanford White.
Hints of coming surprises thrilled
the spectators at to-day's hearing.
Deputy Acknowledgement Cook an
nounced that he had received IA hint
that Mrs. Evelyn Ncsbit Thaw has
secretly returned to The city, and to-
nigh; he had subpoena servers out
looking for her. Cook said he had a
surprise IN store in the shape of testi-
mony which will prove that Mrs
Thaw's story of her treatment by Stan
ford White was falsc-the date of her
ill-treatment going back TO when she
was thirteen years old-and that
Thaw's only reason for the killing was
founded on an insane mind. He plans.
If he can get Mrs Thaw on the stand,
TO draw from her the full story of her
life, with many details that have never
before been told. If he fails to get
evidence to prove his contention.
WILL SHOW PICTURES
FON WHICH THAW POSED
Cook has also in view the exhibit
tion in court of the moving pictures
for which Thaw has posed. which. he
claims. will illustrate another phase of
the insanity from which Thaw is al
legged to be suffering. He is also
hoping from the results from former
President Eliot, of Harvard, as to the
reasons for the dismissal of Thaw from
Harvard. Deputy Attorney General
Becker will go TO Hartford and take
the deposition of pr. Eliot on this
point.
The general samencss of the evidence
to-day did not dctract from it's i'm
portance. Clark IS. c'Del) Stevens
and Shurtleff were the stars. The lat
ter was counsel for Thaw in all of the
New England proceedings up to the
Enal decision by the Supreme Court Of
the United States, which resulted in
Thaw's return TO New York.
Il saw him under all conditions. and
frequently as often as twice a day"
said the witness, 'and talked with him
upon all the topics of the day. He inn
pressed me as rational"
The witness admitted. however. that
he had never discussed with Thaw
those topics upon which he is said to
harbor dcluSons.
stevens said
ate with him. walked, talked,
slept and hshed with him. was with
him practically all the time for six
teen months. During that time he had
many opportunities to escape. Many
times didn't sec him for several
hours at n time. He never showed any
disposition to get away. On one occa-
sion | left him in the mountains nnd
went fishing. while he went to his
room, agreeing to meet me at Il Ger
tain place at u certain time. When
got there. he WAS not around ! waited
1t while. and then went for assistance
to search for him. When returned.
Mr.. Thaw was waiting for me at the
place we had agreed upon. He had
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