The Washington times., 1915-04-21


and also of the gubernatorial fight last
year. Several other former assembly,
men are also here to follow Roosevelt
on the witness stand.
Thomas r. Smith, secretary Of Tam
many Hall, also arrived today under
Roosevelt subpoena. Roosevelts at
torneys refused to state whether
chsrles h +: Murphy will be called; o.,
organizations books and records had
not been subpoenaed.
Yesterdays Testimony.
When the colonel had left. the stand
just before the adjournment yesterday.
he lad touched upon three specific mat
ters stipulated by him In support Of his
charges against Mr.. Barnes. One was
the race track matter. The other the
franchise tax fight, and the third the
efforts Of former Republican Boss"
Plat to compel him to reappoint Lou
Payn superintendent of insurance. The
Payn matter was not gone into very
| far, except to show that Mr.. Barnes.
while personally opposed to iPayn. had
advised his reappointment to crafty
Mr.. Platt. whom Mr.. Barnes referred to
as Boss"
The franchise tax fight developed the
| fact that Mr. Barnes had told the
| colonel that rich Democratic corporation
men were opposed to 1t. and that they
Barnes said that they had contributed
to the Republican campaign fund to
secure protection from 'scoundrel5 and
demagosucs" IN the legislature. and to
further secure protection to widows
and orphans" who had invested their
money in the companies controlled by
these Democrats. The colonel specific
ally named the late A. N. Brady and
| Robert Pruyn.
| Az tO Alliance.
In support of his contention in tho
statement OF July :3 that Barnes and
Murphy typified the alliance between
politics and corruption business
Roosevelt told of his conversations
with Barnes in the executive cham
| Der In Albany in the spring Of 1909.
| when Roosevelt was governor.
Barnes on several occasions. he said.
justified The action OF big business
men In giving to both organizations.
as a protection to their interests.
| Mr.. lvins objected to a question in
volving Mr.. Murphy.
"If Mr. Murphy's name is to come into
| this case now, | think we ought to have
something to show that he Is a leader OF
| tho Democratic party.
we also should have something
about Mr.. Barnes being a leader.
| "At least two persons must be in q
conspiracy and we have nothing yet to
show that Mr.. Murphy actually Ned p
section of the Democratic party. AS a
matter of fact, Mr.. Murphy wasn't
leader OF Tammany Hail in 1899. wher
these things testified to arc supposed tc
have occurred"
Justice Andrews said the Inference
was taken that some one was leader ol
Tammany, Hall then. and that the de
fendant learned that there was ar
agreement between the Republican anC
| Democratic leaders.
Colonel Roosevelt said that in 1899 and
| 1900 Mr.. Barnes was surveyor of the
port at Albany, a Federal office He
! was appointed by President Mckinley
| and Colonel Roosevelt rcappointed him
| He added that he was entirely friendly
| with Mr.. Barnes at that time, as h'
looked forward to him developing into
the same kind Of leader as his grand
father, Thurlow Weed. had been in the
days of the old whig party
"All NY opinions were strongly il
Mr.. Barnes favor" the colonel added
u corresponded with him before ant
after | was President and Mr. Barne.
visited me at the White House on
number Of occasions. Sometimes h,
came with Mrs. Barnes and sometime
alone.
Race Track Legislation.
After 1906. when Mr.. Hughes bccam,
governor of New York. I spoke of hin
several times to Mr.. Barnes on matter.
at Albany. For instance, on one oc
casion said to Mr.. Barnes that Mr.
belmont. my former race commissioner
had called upon me, and said that h.
was much opposed to racetrack legisla
ton. because primarily such legislati
would destroy breeding farms for thor
ouEhbredS throughout the State.
| MIR. Belmont also said he would with
draw his opposition IL he became con
vinccd that any improper methods wer
being used to defeat such legislation.
| Il told Mr.. Barnes about this an,
added that had informed Mr.. Belmon
| that ! was not prepared to take a stan,
ono way or the other, but that | fe,
that Mr.. Belmont was entitled to stat
his case. | told Mr.. Barnes woul,
like him to SEE Mr.. Belmont about tn
matter. Mr.. Barnes replied withou
| expressing his personal views upon tn
legislation. that, in his judgment,
would have to pass, that the peopl
wished il. but that he would see Mr.
Belmont.
Later ] was informed that Mr.. Bel
mont became convinced that imprope
means were being used against the leg
| islation and"
Mr.. WINS objected.
Certain correspondence betweel
Barnes and Roosevelt was placed Il
evidence. and the colonel was excuse
for the day and ChE%es n. Winchester
vice president and general manager o
the J. B. Lyon Company. of Albany.
concern which has done considerabl
= printing for the State and the city an
county of Albany. was called. He sal
he had brought the documentary evi
dence called for, and was then eX
cused for the day.