The Birmingham age-herald., 1915-04-24
Former President on Stand Tells of Contributions to His Campaigns and His Dealings With Bosses
CLAIMS INTERESTS
 BACKING HIM DID
 NOT HOPE FOR FAVOR
Barnes Characterized as a ''Dr. Jekyll and MT. Hyde' in His Political Life by the Colonel

the Colonel
 Syracuse. N. y., April 2s.--rhcodore Roosevelt told on this. the seeond day
 of his cross-examinntion In William
 Barnes suit for s50ooo alleged libel
 about his dealings wish the "bosses." his personal relations with Barnes and his ideas nbout campaign funds pf millions ef dollars. He mentioned the | fs ,ous hnif roiiIion dollars which | Thomas Fortune Ryan contributed to | the presidential cause of Alton n. Par ker and swore he never had seen list Of the names of the persons who
 helped swell the sa,ooo.ooo fund used
 In his own campaign for the prcsi-
 dcncy.
 The list contained Initials of men whom the colonel readily identified as being allied with the country's most powerful business and financial inter- | ests.
 In speaking of tho Ryan contribution, the witness gave 1t AS his opinion that leader of business who contributes half million dollars to help elect a candidate for President of the United States is prompted by the same spirit
 which cause him to donate a similar sum to church. and that such con tributor has no more hope of reward
 in one case than he has in the other.
 Personality he said he would have been very much surprised if many masters of big business had not contributed to the
 republican campaign of 1904.
 Mentions Standard Oil
 Tho colonel mentioned the Standard lOil company aud campaign contrbu-
 tions too lie said chat if fAe report
 of tho congressional committee which Investigated his campaign contribn
 tions showed that I'll H R. and "J. D. A.'-which the witness thought stood
 for H. H. Rogers and Joha D. Arch
 bold-had contributed to the republican
 fund in 1904 he was astonished. He said he had given explicit instructions against receiving Standard oil contribu- tons.
 Personally. he emphaticallv declared. he would regard just as highly con tribution of S25 from the station agent at oyster Bay as he would contribu- tion of s25.00O from George W. Perkins. who in 190i was partner in the firm of l. P Morgan X Co. And he expressed the belief that there was a limit to the amount campaign fund should total If over n certain sum, he did
 know how much he thought there might be some danger
 The witness swore that the late F. II. Hartman himself had told him that there never was any such thing as u s240.00O Hartman fund He did iden- tify as being his letter he wrote to MT. Hartman in which 1t was said "we are practical men and that If MT. Haf
 riman thought there was any "danger'' in coming to the White House at that time he might come later and discuss q certain matter
 Criticizes Barnes Colonel Roosevelt said he regarded William Barnes as "Dr Jekyll and MT. Hyde,9 who, like other politicians. had his good and his bad sides He said he had been persistent in his efforts to make politicians do what he con sdered right and that instead of en- deaVoring to sever the fragments be- tween these "Samese twins of politics. his aim had always been to have the "Dr. Jekyll" in them absorb the "Mr. Hyde"
 Many letters that passed between Air. Barnes and the colonel were indetihed and read to the jury. In these letters the pair discussed political and legis- latlve matters and appointees to state offices. Tn one of the letters Mr Barns expressed stern disapproval of meas ure which proposed that state senators should be elected for four years and assemblymen for two years because such a condition would give the voters little opportunity to register approval or dsapproVal
 There will be no session of court to- morrow. on Monday. however. Colonel Roosevelt will resume his testimony and submit to further cross -examina- ton by William M lvins of counsel for Mr. Barnes.
 The colonel was just as active on tho witness stand today as on the three pre-
 vious days. He moved around in hts chair, addressed his own and Inc plain More than once he. had the entire court in an uproar. Sometimes the presiding justice himself placed his hand over his mouth to hide a smile. MT. Barnes seemed to enjoy himself also. Once when the colonel was talk ing about bosses in states other than this he soemnly renlarked that there was considerable difference between the meaning or the word boss In them and in New York. That amused Ntr. Barnes immensely. as it did the specta- tors
 The cross-examination today again re- volved about political activities at AL hany while Mir. Roosevelt was governor. The witness was questioned minutely about his relation to certain measures before the state legislature at that time and to cartain leesslntors.
 Calling attention to Mir. Roosevelts am nua, message in which establishment of a printing house was mentioned. Mir. Iv-
 ns said:
 Did you ever do anything further of-
 icially in regard to thatg"