The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-10-27
BREITUNG SHIELDED
IN PLOT BY BROKER
German Who Supplied Acid
Tells Of His Introduce
ton to Fay.
FAKE TALES SUSPECTED

Kari r. operarde. who's real name
10 Paul Sieb. who acted as broker in the
sale Of potassium chlorate and trinitrate
Of toluol used BY Fay and his com
panions. explained last night his connec-
ton with Max B%reitung. Or. kienzle and
FAy. O~pesaarde or Sieb is "a years old.
= German. tall. slim. alert and careful ~
what he says. lie came to America four
years ago. remained three years and then
returned to this country In February to
buy roper for Germany. lie travelled,
uanG a Norwegian passport. for a copper
concern on the Scandinavian peninsula.
my real name Ia Sieb." said he last
night AZ the Breslin. "But have been
known As O~pegaarde since I came here
In February 70 buy copper for Germany.
I could not get a passport without
changing my name, so I took n Nor
vAeian one. I did not change back
aRin to sieb until Sunday. when they
found me about 4 o'clock In the after
noon sitting in that chair over there.
I registered here ~ O~pegaarde from
Stockholm. have . small mall order
business ana also am q broker. deal
in anything.
II came over here TO get copper pri-
mar1ly. could get all I want to-mor-
row. but I could not get II to Germany.
here how hard II wouid be TO send cop
per TO Germany, but I thought I would
zee what I could DO. No. I haven't
bOuGht ANY since I came.
II know Breitung now about three
year,. We hrst met sDcially in q club
In Chicago and have been friends ever
since. have tried TO sell him several
thfngs. He deals In most everything and
~ always is In touch with the market.
30 that when I tried 10 sell him some
thing he would tell me that he could
buy Il himself and save brokerage fees.
tried 70 sell him q ship once. He
wanted me to get one for him. but the
deal aid not 90 through.
~ met Fay the FIRST time a week ago
to-day, and have had three or four con-
VACATIONS with him since that time. I
df0 not suspect what was going on un-
I'll the police found me on Sunday. I
never expected to be found. The first
Transaction I had with Breituns was
two months ago when he came to me
and asked me to buy $50 pounds OF
potassium chlorate for him. I sold II
to him for $40. got II from Wettig,
IN whose once I had desk room.
There was rothing ~ Be suspected
from that deal. Potassium chiorate Is
not an explosive and II is used for a
great many purposes. As a broker l
bought and sold anything could lay
my hands en- Then six months aRN !
had met DIR. kiens,e. who was a friend
Of Breitung's. BreitunR introduced me
to Kiensie-just socially you know.
We met several times since. Two
weeks ago Kiensie told me he
wanted 100 pounds OF T. n. T. for Fay
and q week ago to-day he introduced
me- to Fay. who asked me 10 get him
100 pounds OF 7. y. T."
Didn't you suspect then that there
might be something dangerous in the
dealr' Sieb was asked.
"Oh, sure. Then ! mac my suspicious
But ! did not ask what Fay wanted the
r. y. T. for. I asked Wettig to get II,
but We could not get 100 pounds-only
twenty-five pounds at first. Sc I sold
Fay twenty-five pounds of 7. y. T.
After had sold 1t to him ! asked him
what he wanted II for. A. hrst he
would not tell me. but ! told him my
suspicious had been aroused, Then he
afternoon papers,
"Dld Fay ever mention that he was
an officer or that he had seen Boy-Ed
and Won PapenT'
Fay didn't say he was an on er but
ne said he had been fighting. He did
not mention any officials AT all. our
conversation about this deal was very
meagre. Fay did not want any one to
know what ne was doing, In my few
brief conversations with him We talked
mostly about the war. | know so iittl.
about him that | cannot tell much
what he tried 10 do except what he
told me. had 10 accept his explana-
ton, but when ne mentioned Gripping
a whole chemical plant ! knew that was
impossible"
"You know Of course that Rreltung
10 coming on TO New York" Sch was
told by THE Sun reporter,
"Yes poor fellow he replied. "Ru'
he'll get out Of this all right. lie didn't
know much about what was going on
I guess he'll be fined about a couple
Of hundred dollars or maybe a thousand
on that conspiracy charge"