Richmond times-dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1914-current, 1915-02-06
WELFARE OF MANKIND
IS THEIR SOLE MOTIVE
Carnegie and Rockefeller Defend
Great Foundations Which They
ltave Endowed.
BOTH ON THE WITNESS STAND
Two of Worlds Richest Men Discuss
flights OF Labor. and Express De-
sire That Workers Share I'm Profits
of Their Toll.

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| NEW YORK. February 5.-John d.
iocNcfe1lcr. ST.. and Andrew Carnegie
appeared to-day before the Federal
Commission of Industrial Relation.
| and defended the foundations which
'h'E nave endowed with their wealth.
Neither would say he believed the in
! s'itntions constituted a menace to the
reiigious. political or educational lib
rriH of the people OF The United States.
~ "esire TO promote the welfare of
mankind and that alone. they said.
prompted them to establish the foun-
dations which bore their nnmes.
widely different was the manner in
which the two men faced the commits
sion ana the audience. composed large
ly OF representatives of labor. Social
lists. Individuals and members of the
Industrial Workers OF the World. Mr.
carnegie went to the witness stand
from seat in the audience He was
IN jorial mood. and his answers to
questions caused the audience and the
commissioners to roar with laughter
more than once.
-"''h AFTERNOON
HE HAS SPENT IN YEARS
MI Carnegie enjoyed that. When he
left the stand he said he had no, spent
such pleasant afternoon in many
years
Mr. Carnegie revealed that up to the
close OF last year his donations totallcd
80. i'651,399 His present business, he
said, was TO do all the good he could
wi, Il
growth Of his steel business. and said
he never had such n good time I'm his
iife as when he was talking to his
employees. The men liked him. too.
When they call YOU Andy instead of
Andrew or Mr. Carnegie. you know the
hoNs are your friends" said he
Mr. kockefeller's appearance was a
surprise IL was learned after he left
the stand that Scrgeant-nt- Arms Eran
went yesterday to the Rockefeller
country estate, and gave him the list
Oh questions that had been prepared for
him. He asked Mr.. Rockcfcl,cr
whether he would appear voluntarily
as a witness. Mr.. Rockefeller repIIed
he would be glad TO do so. He
promised to appear on SATURDAY. morn
Ing.
While Mr.. Carnegie was on the stand
ME- Rockefeller's private secretary prc.
sehted to Chairman Walsh a note con-
tanning answers to the questions sub
i.i'leh 10 MT. Rockefeller, and said that
ms empower was outside. and that IL
the answers did not suffice he would
IKE TO he put on the witness stand i'm
mediately. He was asked to walt in
room being used by the COMMIT,
sioners until Mr. Carnegie had con
cluded
ASSISTED TO STAND
by MEMBERS OF STAFF
Mt Rockefeller was assisted TO tho
witness stand by members of his pcr-
Sonai stall Seating himself with much
o'iicnlty' ne leaned across a little table
"hu looked at the audience. When lie
u" 10 read his answers his voice
was scarcely audible. After he lid
finished his statement he fo1d.d ~.
hahds and looked inquiringlv AT tho
commissioners.
Mr.. Rockefeller appeared ,o have
aged considerably since he las, $50,
testimony in public. He smoke slowIv
and calmly. He declared thai bis col.
motive was to devote n portion NJ III.
fortune TO the services of his fellow
,'n. ne SAID he regarded the right
TO rescind the charters OF the founda
IONS as sufficient guarantee against
abuse OF the funds
lie told how he directed his businos.
enterprises and the part he play,cd in
me administration of the foundations
lie said he would accord all mon ,bn
,iSht 10 organize. working men and
business men as well, providing tbet.
KEPT within the proper limitations IN
respect TO the law and to safcguardinp
me general interests of the public.
MI. Rockefeller said he would "ho
happy to surrender" his holdings. either
In whole or In part. and let the workers
nave a voice in the board of directors
just as all other stockholders do. thus
giving them some OF the profits Of their
labor. lie would be happy, also. he
SAID 10 see the workers his partners
In business
As for tho 100000. 600 he had given
10 the Rockefeller Foundation revert
ing TO himself or his heirs in the event
OF inc legislature resembling the char
Ter OF the foundation. Mr.. Rockefeller
SAID he had never allowed himself to
worry about that" He declared he
had II great deal Of confidence In the
American people and their goodness
integrity and common sense, said he.
were sufficient security for the founda-
ton.
HAD NOT CONSIDERED
GRIEVANCES OF LABOR
Mr.. Rockefeller never had considered
'th" grievances submitted to tho Colo
RADIO Fuel and Iron Company by it's en-
pioYcS. He pointed ont that he was n
rctlred business man and had been such
Tor many years.