The Birmingham age-herald., 1915-11-09
Englishman Renews Attack on Ministry Before House of Lords-Nation Should Not Be Deceived
CABINET MISTAKES ARE REFERRED TO
 AS PREFERABLE
Nation Should Be Made to Realize Seriousness of the Situation - False Hopes Should Not Be Held Out

Should Not Be Held Out London, November S-The debate on the conduct of the war and the censor ship was resumed in the House of Lords this afternoon. Earl Loreburn, former high chancellor, brought up the subject, declaring that he took this action owing to his belief that the Mar quis of Lansdowne. the minister without portfolio, had not made adequate reply to the arguments of Viscount Morley. Earl Loreburn spoke of what he termed the "misadventures' of the Ant werp expedition, the loss of Rear Ad-
 miral Sir Christopher Craddock' S squadron, the Dardanelles operations and the Balkan expedition The speak, CT said he had been told two months ago that 15,000,o00 men had been killed or disabled for life and that multftudes had been added to this number since and that if the conflict continued in- definitely. revolution or anarchy''
 might follow in Europe.
 African War Criticized Earl Loreburn, one, of the radical stalwarts who cricitized the South African war, today oddly enough found himself supported by Viscount Milner, former high commissioner for South Africa, who was one of those largely responsible for the South African war. Viscount Milner. however largely con- fined himself to criticism of the cen sorship. He declared that the news had been "doctored in an optimistic sense,' and also denounced the govern ment for not going sooner to the as- sistance of Servia.
 Baron Courtney of Penwith, we'll known as a peace advocate, followed Viscount Milner. He said the govern ment should show itself readys to ac- ] cept any suggestions which would end the war, concluding, however, that the Germans must agree to evacuate Bel gium and France and that no indemni- : 1 ty should be demanded of Great
 Britain.
 Earl Curzon of Kedleston, lord privy seal who replied for the government. defended both the coalition govern | ment and it's liberal predecessor. He reminded critics of the government that experts did not always agree. He announced that the government was considering whether arrangements
  tact between the press and the fight ing forces.
 Pertinent Questions Asked Lord Loreburn, in addition to his other utterances, asked whether the landing at Saloniki had been made with the ap- proval of the naval and military authori- ties of the entente allies whether they were satisfied with the supplies of men and money and if the communications had been properly safeguarded. He asked
 these questions, he said, because there was an uneasy feeling that there had not been sufficient experts on super vision. The government, he declared, should not hold out expectations to a nation which was confronted with ex- treme peril, unless they were sure they would be able to make good with time ly and sufficient force.
 In saying that he had been informed that 15,0O0000 men already had been killed or disabled in the war, Earl Lore burn added that this was what was meant by war of attrition and that while the war continued the government should do their best to prevent ire parable mistakes No scheme should be attempted, he said. without the approval of the highest naval and military authori- ties. The idea of small cabinet re- porting to full cabinet on such mat lcTS E-dTl lOTtDuTli CIdTdcltTlZtu dS highly unsatisfactory
 Censorship Condemned While discussing the censorship Vis- count Milner said he could not see that it did any good to censor the German wireless in London. If the German re ports were false 1t would be better to deny them than to let them go unan- swered, for in the latter case neutral countries naturally came to the conclu- sion that they were true. He referred to
 the report published in the United States
 alleging that British sailors had mur- dered the crew of German submarine
 as a case in point.
 Baron Courtney of Penwith, after re-
 ferring to the fact that no move has
 been made on the western front or in the
 Dardanelles for sometime past and de-
 claring that the situation at sea was un-
 changed, asked If there is no alterna- tive to this unparalleled and unceasing
 strife?" He said he was sure there was
 Although he would not ask the govern
 ment now to define 1t, he thought i've
 should show ourselves ready to accept any suggestion which might be offered for ending it.''
 After pointing out that the libera- tion of Belgium and northern France and that no indemnity should be levied on Great Britain were three things vital to the possibility of settlement of the war. Baron Courtney said he thought the freedom of the seas prob ably would be discussed when peace was being established and not after ward.
 CurzOn Makes Reply Earl Curzon of Kedleston declared that all the matters on which Earl Loreburn had complained with regard to the suppression of news occurred before the formation of the coalition cabinet, but having read the papers connected with the incidents. he would say that if any one thought the ob- l ject of concealment was to spare the political reputation of any man that was a most unjust impression. The more one look ed on the papers the more clearly did it transpire that in- dividual political regulations had been most unfairly assailed and that those who were most directly attacked had nothing to fear.
 Earl Loreburn, continued Earl Cur zon. appeared to think experts always spoke with one voice. That had not (Ceat1aueA sn rage Nine)