Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1915-05-18

HOSPITALS TO
SUPPLANT JAILS
Society to Cure Causes Of Crime In
stead Of Furnishing Criminals
eloodshsd ExcusabIs When in Cause
Of Liberty-Approvss Resistance Of
Officer Without Credentials Of Au.
thority.

Washington, May 1S.-Clarence S.
Darrow told the industrial relations
| commission today he believed the day
was not far distance when jails and
prisons would be abolished and hospi-
| tails would take their places.
Il don't mean that people will not be
confined" he added, ''but they will
be treated for their social ills. Some
day we will try to wipe out the causes
Of crime and doctor criminals instead
OF abusing and misjudgins them"
Most folks believe themselves limos
cent, no matter what they do. Darrow
thought.
Il believe Rockefeller end Standard
but Mr.. Rockefeller thinks he is as
self unto himself. Everybody thinks
himself innocent.
Resistance of military or other au-
thority. II nnisused. Is justiGable." AZ
one of the first steps toward an ideal
social community. he urged public
ownership Of lands. mines forests and
railroads.
There IL no final remedy for unrest
except the grave" declared Darrow.
Rockefeller Again Tsstitiss.
Chief interest in the hearings before
the federal Industrial relations commits
sion centered today in the appearance
Of John D. Rockefeller. Jr. Co1re-
spondence submitted to the commission
since Mr.. Rockefeller's former appear
ance formed the basis Of the inquiry.
Tho Witness had prepared.a state-
ment which he was to read. When the
hearing opened Clarence 8. barrow.
the labor attorney. resumed AsSs testi-
mony regarding the relations Of labor
and the law. He had beeaaarguine that
the poor had not equal opportunity
under tho law witk the rich man. His
testimony was interrupted yesterday
when Mrs. Christobal Eastman BEN
edict, OF New York, the suffragist ad-
vocate, appeared.
Officers Must Prove Authority.
Commissioner Weinstock questioned
Darrow on military operations in
strikes.
IF constable seeks to arrest man
without authority the man ought to
have right to resist said Darrow. III
the militia attack people hrutally and
without authority they should be re-
sisted. The idea that man who is an
officer can do anything is only At for
slaves to harbor."
Suppose in given case. strikers
should form the judgment that acts Of
the militia were unwarranted, that vio-
lence followed in which blood was
she'd and property was destroyed" /"
suggested Commissioner Weinstock,
would you say the strikers should be
punished?''
In the Name .of Liberty.
Supposed there was bloodshed and
property damage but liberty was saved
then what?" couatered Darrow.
There are other things to be consid-
cred besides life" 49,.
There has been little Improvement
added.
"Do you believe in bloodshed."
Il neither believe nor disbelieve in It.
ernment here II were not for bloodshed.
Take bloodshed out Of the world and
we would still be living in caves
Both labor and capital" he said.
''look upon strikes as warfare. There
are many things in the present war IN
Europe that are now justified by tho
laws Of humanity. But the strike is III
the nature of warfare and employers
and employees often do many things
they should not do"
Freedom . Relative Term.
do you believe your liberty is de-
lusion 2"
Freedom is a relative term" was the
reply. 'The people Of the United
States are freer than those Of Russia
and Germany. They are not as free as
the people Of England"
Darrow suggested sever: = :::::eess:t oo~w.a
ership Of coal mines. When asked what
would prevent 1: II the people wanted
It. he replied:
Congress. the president and the SUI
preme court"
The legislation dealing with eight
hour day, labor compensation and
woman's suffrage Darrow charac-
terized as mot worth o pinch Of snuff. =
Boycott Natural Wsspon. 4.
Discussing the boycott. Darrow de-
clared It IL q natural weapon men had
used from the beginning. Is
TT comes from the philosophy Of
life," he said. You and boycott some
ono every day. But the boycott often
works great injustice." =
'Dos you regard public opinion 90 OF
any value % organised laborF' asked
Commissioner Weinstock.
1T 10 the greatest force there Il, but
Il ID not necessary to win public aslf-
respect. All that 50 ~necsssaFy4 10 to
capture the public's lmagination."
FieIslsneas ef Americas Publie.
"But for standing by the right a.
against the wrong" Darrow DECLARED.
'..the American people are the pooroat
excuses In the world. We have no ma
tionality. You. can't tell Whist N
American viii DO. ono iaay Roosevelt
q the Idol OF tho American people. The
next Aey the people sfy 20 see who can
throw the most stones q him. Ad.