New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-04-23
ROOSEVELT UNDER
FIRE OF WINS
Barnes's Lawyer Has the Colonel
Tell of Early Political
Career.
Iron star Correspondent, Of IN. Tribune

Syracuse, April 22.-With the excep-
1 ton Of few questions on direct ex-
/ animation relative TO the state print
| ing, Theodore Roosevelt's day on the
witness stand was given up to his
cross-examination by William NJ. Wins,
| William Barnes's chief counsel.
After a short direct examination by
Mr.. Bowers Mr., Wins began his cross
examination.
By Mr.. Ivins.-Mr Roosevelt, what
I did l understand you as testifying 10
me as to the year of your graduation
from Harvard? Also.
Odd you take up an occupation
after your graduation? Al studied
one year in the Columbia Law School
College, intending to be admitted to
the Bar, but was never admitted
became almost Immediately ali author.
afterwards was a ranchnan on the
Little Missouri. l had a cattle ranch
on the Little Missouri.
Q.-How long did you serve in the
Legislature? Al was reelected in
1882 and again in 1888, serving through
the sessions Of 1882, 1883 and 1894.
Q-From what Assembly district
were you elected? A.-The 2lst Assem-
bly, District
Q-Who was the leader Of that dis
trict-the Republican leader of it?
A Mr.. Jacob Hess.
Q.-Mr. Hess was known as a boss,
wasn't he? Ale was.
Q.-You believe him to have been a
boss? Al believe him to have been q
boss.
Coloners First Nomination.
Odd you know before your nomi-
nation any of the members of the con-
vention by which you were nominated?
Al knew quite a number
Q.-How large proportion did you
know? A.-Of the convention that nom
mated me?
Q.-Yes. A.-That is thirty-four
years ago, Mr.. Wins.
Q.-I know it. l remember the cam
paign myself distinctly. Al knew
quite a number. We beat Jake Hess.
Q.-Who was your competitor for the
nomination in that convention? Al
think his name was Trumbull.
Q.-During your first year Of the
Legislature, on what committee did you
serve? Al think the Committee on
Cities.
O. During your second year Of ser
vice in the Legislature, what commit
tees did you serve on? A.-The Com
mittee on Cities; and it was either the
second or the third year that ! was
chairman of a special committee to in
vestgate certain matters in New YORK.
| think it was the third year. / en-
not sure.
o. revive your memory, probably,
in this way One of the results of the
Investigation was the disappearance
from New York City of the Sheriff and
the appointment to fill his place of
General Sickles. You remember that,
don't you? A.-Yes. | think it was
the third year | served as chairman
of an investigating committee to in
vestigate certain Offices in New YORK
City, and | think it was in 1884; ! am
confident it was, now that | come TO
think of it. My belief is that the first
Legislature, that of 1882, was a Demo
cratic Legislature, and that | was
member of the Committee of Cities;
that the second Legislature was
Democratic Legislature, with Mr..
Chaplin as Speaker, and that was a
member of the Committee on Cities,
and that the third Legislature was a
Republican Legislature. with Mr.. Titus
as Speaker, and that | was chairman
of the Committee on Cities and chair
man of an investigation committee that
I investigated the condition Of New York.
Didn't you investigate the De
partment Of Public Works? Ave in
! vestigated in part. We began TO inves-
tigate the Department of Public Works,
but there was a Senate committee espe-
cially appointed to investigate the De-
/ partment of Public Works, and they
{ resented our going on with it. and we
| stopped the investigation of the De-
partment of Public Works.
Q.-As a member of that committee,
| as chairman, and in the course of the
/ investigation, did you become familiar
with the methods of legislative inves-
tigation into public affairs under reso-
luton of the Legislature? Al be
came familiar with the methods of
legislative Investigations conducted by
myself.
Q.-Do you know that il has been
the practice Of legislative committees
to conduct the Investigations ex parte
that is TO say, hearing only one side
Of such matters. calling such witnesses
as the committee itself sees fit to call
and hearing only such testimony on
such questions and within such limita-
tions as il deems fit to fix? A.-That
may be the practice of some legislative
committees. | know that my commit