New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1915-01-23

ployes that he outlined on Thursday
afternoon. He said 10 taught the men
20 save. The shares. he said, we're not
treasury stock but were bought in the
open market and sold to the employees
az from ] TO . points below what they
brought in the open market. The com
pany doesn't force the stock on the
men, he said 1t doesn't want the men
TO buy too much. for that would pre-
vent the workers putting money into
homes.
Profit sharing" he continued. "is
the missing link between capital and
labor.
! "On the formation Of company
which purposes operating outside the
state i'm which it has its operating
plant the company should be forced 70
20 to Washington for charter The
men Of that company are asking priv
ilege They arc asking labor and con-
sumner 10 trust them. They are asking
people TO put money into something
that has not been tested They should
put down dollar for dollar for their
capital in cash, and the profits divided
between the stockholders and the work
crs. Profit sharing minimizes the
chance OF dispute between capital and
labor. There is now too much stand
otfishress.
There arc great many business
men to-day Who believe in running
their businesses IN the dark. They
keep the details of the business a
secret from their employees. This is
probably more true of the small en-
ployer."
When he said that the Steel Corpora
ton had declared no dividend in Jan
uary, Chairman Walsh asked him the
reason for business depression.
"You know perfectly we'll that the
tariff is responsible" Mr.. Perkins re-
piled. THE tariff Is not only response
Bile for depression in the steel business,
but it is responsible for the general de-
preston. Unless the tariff question is
taken out of politics | do not see that it
is possible for labor to get anywhere in
this country, when you consider the
labor conditions in Europe.
"The cause Of industrial unrest, |
think. Is the fact that organized labor
Is selfish. II has been. So has business.
I think that a gradual change in this
Is working out.
Conditions May BE Worse.
"But on the question Of the tarif, II
il is not changed by the time the war Is
over YOU are going to see conditions
far worse than they are to-day
Mr.. Perkins said that organized la
Dor was all right for labor, but that II
labor was allowed to organize so should
4 business.
+, "On that subject | invite your atten-
/ ton 10 two recent decisions of the
/ United States Circuit Courts in the
{ same jurisdiction. In the case OF the
| international Harvester Company II
was declared that while we were all
right that we should be given clean
bill of health-we were too big and
would have 70 dissolve.
Another Circuit Court in the same
/ risdicton, in the case of the Key
stone Watch Company. said that while
| they had done some wrong things they
| had done so many right things they
would not have to dissolve. Now. how
/ do you think the business man knows
what TO do in the face Of such con-
/ hicting decisons2 | agree with Mr..
/ Hughes, who, in his famous Cincinnati
speech. when he. then Governor OF New
York, was campaigning for Mr.. Tart,
/ said that companies which did wrong
should be punished, but not dissolved.
Until the government is as fair TO
I business as il is to organized labor
]
Business must be treated fairly. Ii
must have equal rights. Decisions
should not 20, like kissing, by favor
/ On the unemployed situation he
said:
| 1T ia perfect outrage that we have
an army of what you call occasional
/ laborers,' men who do not work long
enough in one place TO become eligible
under a profit sharing plan. We must
/ end that condition.
Like a Lunatic Asylum.
/ "Any one coming to this country in
/ an airship and looking down on our
| fertile fields and mining camps and
| then gazing off on hundreds Of thou
sands Of unemployed men and women
would think he was in a lunstic asy-
| lum. We arc not keeping abreast of
| the economics OF this age. We ought
not 10 have unemployed. But you must
/ first take the tariff out OF politics.
Germany has come almighty close to
finding work for its citizens
They're all employed there now
! said Commissioner A. b. Garretson.
/ The testimony Of Samuel Gompers
occupied the entire afternoon session
Of the commission His head protected
by skull cap and his voice
hoarsened by q heavy cold, he upheld
F for TWO hours the American Fedora
ton Of Labor and Numbered against
unrestricted immigration, the Rookie
Teller Foundation and capitals use OF
detective agencies, mine tenths OF
whose work" he said, sis strike breed
ing, trouble breeding, and espionage
B upon labor.
Something that looked like the be-
ginning Of a riot flashed up in the
/ midst OF the examination, when Com
b missioner Weinstock read a question,
which the commissioner said hsd been
passed 20 him by man IN the AUDI
ence.
"Why should not unions be held re-
sponsible for strikes, boyeotts, vlo-
lence and dynamite; acts which lnJure
others unlswfully?" &C.,.
"Since am here OF my own voliuon
20 appear before this commission,
have a right 10 know the name OF TIE
person Who wrote that question, Mr.
Gompers snapped, Strengthening up IN
his chair. ..
After some hesitation. Commissioner
Weinstock said that IL was represen-
/ tative Of the employers association.
~ Am Samuel Gompers, OF New
Work " the witness announced violently.
"Iy present address - the NATIONAL
Federation o. Labor Building, Wash
i,gton / demand 10 know who wrote
this question n am 20 answer ~
Calls Question an Insult.
"He has lust told me that he does
-. 49,, 70 his name being told.