The Sentinel=record., 1915-01-27
ON
 STAND FIVE HOURS
TELLS THE COMMISSION HIS FATHER HAS GIVEN AWAY
 QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS.
MT Rockefeller Will Have a Confer ence With "Mother" Jones. the Aged Labor Organizer, Today.

New York, Jan 26.-John D Rocke- feIler IT,, today told the United states commission on industrial rela- tions which is investigating the great philanthropic foundations and the cause of industrial unrest. thai he felt justified in placing the amount of money his father had devoted 10 philanthropy at a quarter of a billion dollars The bulk of this sum. he said, had been turned over to the Rockefeller foundation, the Univer. sity of Chicago, the General Educa. ton Board and the Rockefeller IDsti- ute for Medical Research
 John D. Rockefeller, his son said. Aas been making gifts Of money since his early boyhOOd The witness had no data in his possession which would show how much more the world would have benefited" if this $250.- 100000 had been given 10 labor in increased wages.
 MT. Rockefeller announced after the hearing adjourned late today. that when he concluded his testimony before the commission he would have conference with Mother" Jones. the aged labor organizer. regarding conditions among the workers in Colorado. Mir Rockefeller and Mother Jones shook hands and talked over the coming conference in the room in the city hall in which the commission is conducting the in quiry.
 When he stepped from the stand at the close of the proceedings today Mr Rockefeller had given testimony for ten hours-five today and five yesterday. He will give some more tomorrow.
 The commission dug deep into the charges that the Colorado Fuel and Iron Company controlled politicians in the mining districts; furnished deputy shertfs with firearms when trouble seemed imminent, and paid them salaries; controlled utterances of ministers; exercised power of re moyal from pulpits, and maintained a benevolent absolutism in the appoint ment of school teachers.
 The witness was in favor of the em ployment of a black list" but he diC not believe such a list should be cir culated among other employers O. labor He said neither he nor his father believed the Rockefeller .fou1 dation would ever become a menace to the public; he denied that tn, | foundation exercised any appreciabl, influence on the price of stocks or | bonds He denied, also, that the col | leges or universities which had beel recipients of his fathers money had ; tendency to acquire the views of NIT Rockefeller, ST
 Young MT. Rockefeller said he diI not believe employers generally coult he implicitly entrusted voluntarily t | protect the rights and needs of thei employees
 Mr Rockefeller did not think it wa | possible to have the records of aC tions of the beneficial corporation aud the constant disposal of the pee pie as are the records for the gov ernment. The Rockefeller found; ton, controlling $100,00oo00, exc cises a certain influence in financis circles as it is large invester, tn witness aid. He denied that tn foundation exercised any influenc upoon the price of stocks or bonds.
 The witness thought it would b wise for any beneficial corporation { be restricted as 10 financial matter or matters of investment. He b, | lieved contributions should be mad outright to educational institutions a it was inadvisable for such instt, tions to be in any way under tn guidance of the foundations in the fl ! ture
 No foundation should exercise a s1 pervision over any school, college C
 university, he said.
 He denied that colleges or univers
 ties had a tendency to acquire tn
 views of MT Rockefeller, ST, afte
 having received gift.
 Mir Rockefeller said his father di
 not believe that his various found lions would ever become a menace
 the public The witness did not b lieve so, either.
 'Is there any means of determinm
 whether the foundations were bein used, knowingly or unknowlngl
 against the public good?" asked M
 Walsh.
 "The scope of the foundation is