The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1915-04-24
7. r. SCAMIPAICNF FUND

pressed or implied attached, and that /
l would take office absolutely free from ,
any obligation of any kind. sort or de- |
scription in consequence OF any cOntri- /
button that had been made. knew :
who was collecting the money, as told .
YOU. ! selected Messrs. Bliss and Cor
telNou myself. and selected them because
they were men OF stainless probity. On
whose word | could absolutely rely. and
! selected them because when I had
their guarantee that not dollar was
taken improperly could count upon 1t,
and the result bore me out Never did
Mr.. Cortelyou or MIR bliss ask me to
take or refrain from taking any single
action of any Kind because OF any con-
tribution that had been handed in TO
elect me or in aid Of the party In any
way and the only request that was ever
made
q. | am not asking YOU about these
requests and We mus; nave some limit
ton to your answer The uPshot OF th,s .
all IL that you picked out your owl
agents in whom YOU coniidcd" \. ~
whom Coniidcd
-. Nj. Hiss and Nj Cortolyou" y
Mi bliss and Mr.. Cortclyou.
q. Md gave them free hand tn get
money for your campaign" - | gave
them restricted raud: restricted
th'm to get money only from people
who had contributed with tho eNplici
kuONl, dye that whether they gave t.
~ withheld 1t their position would he
In no way affected as regards any public ,
action or other action Of mine or any
public action which I controlled
-. Did YOU soc any connection what
over between business and politics In
contributions OF 100000. $4,000. SEQ
n"n' \. No more connection than there
IL whon those same men contributed ("
( tho Y. NJ. &. \ 7 mentioned that NO
Perkins during the time that 10 WIS
contributing 50 heavily to the campisn
tuuds has contributed much more liber-
ally To- ;he building of the v, VI. e. As
aud tn" contribution from Mr. porkits
. or S25. 200 might hc considerably les,
than contribute Of s2a from The
station agent at oyster BAY and
should feel ~ grateful to the one IMAM
for the $50 as % the other for the
$4,000 contribution and I should &c
1 incapable OF acting for either in any
way because of that contribution.
q, Did ! understand you TO say that
/ The S3."vo.ouu I'm Contribut ions to u cam
/ paign fund is to be placed in the same
category when YOU arc running for Pres
! ident Of the United States az the con-
tributiuns for the Young Mems Chris
! tian Association \. I did. I say that.
/ -. | asked YOU If THAT u what | un-
derstood YOU TO say \ ! don't know
! what you Understood.
J -. DO YOU mean TO say that YOU would
! regard contributions of $4,000. 90" to u
! political campaign fund from business
/ men IN campaign where you were rum
! ming for President 49, being In the same
class and category a. contributions to
the V. NJ &. A.? \. Ycs. precisely and
| with no more hope If reward.
q -. Would you fe"l 1t The same way
precisely II the same contribution -
the al ~. ole
, Wer" made 80 the = ntlemcE rUuuius
agains' you A. with the same mo-
, tivee'
.. Just 49, you have described? \
With tho same motives
-. Yes \ would. | believe for
instance that NJ. Ryan's contribu.''
for all know Vas given Ia the same
| spirit to Mr. Parker
-. You think that OF Mr.. Ryan's CON
tributons which amounted to some,hin.
nor" than half million dollars, A.
don't think ihsy Mere given with any
idea Of personal gain or AIRY advantage.
R!nu's OppOsitiOn.
Q. am asking you whether ~ not
YOU placed tina; contribution in the same
crt"rury. for iustarcc. as Mr.. Rydn's
coutribu ION .or the building OF -. IT,.
seph's Church in New York city. A. In
his case have no qcustou that IT was
h'llf III nv 0dlii' spun 81 IVY III
Was very strongly oppose - ne and
" sh,d 10 beat M, ia ! believe he nas
cu.r,C sincere :p - .,s.'" % d. il
q. Given that spirit aud given that
sincerity. do you see any evil in these
contributions \ When they become
too large think. there is a real
evil
q. when they become 100 large AT
what point. beyond $1,000 900 y. That
couldu', tell YOU. " | had the laws
, of the State of Washington here could
tell you for the state of Washington
statute has been very carefully gotten
up, and ! hope IN the end Il Will NE
worked out in the same way for TIE
nation at large. so that there will be a
limit as to what amount of money shall
b., spent on national election.
Thereafter Mr. Wins reminded Mr.
Roosevelt that he had pledged himself
to consider his three and Il half wears
as MCkinlcls aucC"ssor and his own
-four years as President as two terms
ana had promised the people that lie
would not run again.
The Colonel twisted and squirmed a
: good deal In trying to avoid direct
admission, but Mr. lvins pinned him
, down to II.
Then came line OF questioning az
to the influence Col. Roosevelt exerted
toward the nomination of Mr.. Taft In
1905 He declared that he had not die
tated the nomination, that he had merely
, expressed his preference and had don,
| his best to rebuke persons who wanted
{ him to he q candidate.
2 Next Mr.. WINS tried to show that
Roosevelt fired Lou payn out Of tho
$ State Insurance Department because Il
was Payn who presented to the Re
publican State convention of 1908 hi
. tax affidavit at Washington in order I,
4 ., a. a
be Governor.
!. Very shortly afierward the argument
!, developed about the Introduction of let
ters and Justice Andrews adjourned Tho
. court until next Monday morning a.
10 o'clock.
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