The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1915-07-03
Man and Woman les.
tify for Culver in
Libel Suit
DEFENDANT TAKES
STAND FOR SELF
Admits Having No
Personal knowledge
of Charges Made

Mrs. Marjorie Straub. OF School.
craft. Mich. and James Burgess. of
vicksburg, Mich. testified. Friday
morning. In Judge Lambs court thar
they had seen Grant M. Hudson,
state superintendent OF the Anti.
saloon league. and pla,nun In libel
suit against Rep. Charles H. Culver.
drink wine over bar. Mrs. Straub
swore that Hudson came into her
husbands saloon in Schoolcraft.
about nine years ago. soon after the
saloon opened In the morning,
poured his drink out Of bottle.
paid for II, and departed.
Burgess said he rode from School
craft to vicksburg with Hudson aft.
er the latter had conducted a fu-
neral service for one of the Straub
children.
when We got to vicksburg." ties.
tined Burgess. Hudson stopped at
the Adams house, and said, Jim,
are you dry I said. I might take
. glass Of beer We went into the
bar. had my beer; he had his
wine--and he paid for BOTH
Culver, on DISCRIMINATION by
Attorney Pound. admitted that he
had no personal knowledge OF any
OF the charges he made against
Hudson In the article which caused
the libel suit.
Culver cited HIS z40 pounds OF
bulk In the witness chair. snd In
tones which could he heard In the
corridors. swore that he believed the
Anti-aSlcon league was a CROFT or
ganixation and that some OF its sole.
itors were paid grafters.
Il had absolutely no malice to-
wards Hudson when I printed that
article" Culver testified. Il didn't
even know him. Fact Is. wanted
to help him. wanted him to be
promoted to the position he now
holds, because l knew he favored To-
cal option 40 against statewide pro-
hibition. and that's the sort Of q man
I wanted to see In the once. I knew
by attacking Hudson, I would be at
tracing sympathy and support to
him from the Anti-Saloon league
workers. knew they would hold
my paper before one another and
say. Look at the beer ads. The
liquor interests are behind this And
I'll say now that the scheme work
ed"
When asked by his attorney, viii.
liam c. Manchester. where he had
gotten the alleged information he
printed in the article forming the
basis OF the suit. Culver replied that
he had gathered II In various places.
for q period covering more than Ave
years. He did not give the names OF
anyone who had supplied him with
the alleged facts. and frequently ex.
planned that some Of the things he
printed were generally believed"
or that he had been told about them
by persons who lived up that way
Culver summed up some OF the
matters he had heard" a. follows:
II heard about the wine supper
while he was q student At Kalama-
zoo college. I heard that he drank;
I heard he had been accused Of the
other immoralities referred to in the
article, and that he had to borrow
money from relatives to square fhe
affair. and failed to pay It back.
II heard Mr.. Hudson had takeh .
drink while In vicksburg. Mich. and
I heard also that he drank while at
his home In schoolcraft. I heard he
took former choir singer In his
church to Q hotel where food and
drink were served, and that his con.
duct there was such that the young
woman quit the church and ceased
collecting for the Anti-Saloon league.
II did not name any one specific
incident In which Mr.. Hudson W
involved with a woman because ]
understood there were two and pos.
sihlv thrsa aurn caaea and I Sidn't