The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1914-10-21

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did you have any conversation
with Mayor Thompson following the
arrest OF the aldermen In July. lslzT'
asked scallon.
The answer, Eyes" was given over
ar objection by the prosecutor.
What was that conversation!
IN the Michigap.ave. entrance to
the city hall on the Saturday morning
following the arrests. Mayor Thomp-
son stopped me and said"
II object" said Frazer. again.
"How is this competent asked the
court. and Scallon explained that tne
conversation bore on Gilman directly.
Attorney Mcnamara then took up
the argument and explained the
theory OF the defense--that Tom
Gilman was the man Mayor Thomp-
SON wanted to get"
Wont you have to bring In
jThompsonf" asked the court.
! +, "No, the prosecutor can do that II
he desires 70 combat this test-
mony," said Mcnamara. I'VE have
shown the part Thompson took
"You don't satisfy me. Mr.. NC
Namara that this testimony at his
time II competent" observed the
court. .....
| ave desire to show that Thomp-
lson told HARPER Gilman was the
| man they wanted to get-and they
got him." replied Mcnamara.
| The answer was then allowed.
| Continuing his testimony the wit
ness said: Thompson asked me
what I thought OF the situation.
told him ] was awfully sorry about
the scandal In the council and he
said: on, that's all right. We don't
care about Schreiter and the rest.
LIT. Is the big fellow we want
| He explained that Gilman was
referred to as the big fellow"
Ibid Thompson use the graft case
az an issue in the campaignf The
question was objected to.
| did he have banners and signs
Advertising his campaign In connec-
ton with the graft casef"
"He had signs, Thompson. the foe
LOT Graft and Down with Graft;
Thompson for mayor
/ The Judge held this answer In
competent and the tetimony was
stricken out, the defense taking an
exception.
Prosecutor Frazer, on cross-exam-
lination, asked Harpfer II he had any
other conversation with Thompson.
"No," was the reply.
Didn't he say they got Gilman
because he was q grafterf"
"No."
Ibid he say the reason that he
wanted him was because he was
graftsri'
mo. have told all he said to
ms.s
Happier was then excused and
Miss Grace Gilman. 1s-year-old
daughter Of the alderman. was
called.
aDo you remember the time when
your father was arrested" asked
|McNamara.
Eyes. SIR"
She was then questioned as "a
what took place. In her fathers
home the Tuesday after his arrest,
when Andrew II. Green. Jr.. called.
"Iie called at the house between
1 and 3 O'Clock. My mother. my
sister, Mrs. Jacques, and myself were
home. I think Mr.. Green came In
himself. ! heard the conversation
between my father and Mr.. Green.
MT. Green said: Mr.. Gilman, you
20 down and tell the Judge you're
guilty. Then he said, he being the
biggest man In Detroit would 80
down and see the Judge and get him
on.
Then he said he would give
father a responsible position In the
Solvay and trust him with his bank
book and father said that II he told
the judge he was guilty Ne would
be crook and Mr.. Green could not
employ him. Mr.. Green said. MY
God, Tom. don't say that"
Tears came into the girls eyes AZ
she delivered this last sentence with
dramatic effect. She said her
mother was Ill in bed at the time.
In answer TO Frazer's questions
the witness said Mr.. Green told her
he was sorry and urged her to cheer
.what aid he say to your sister
"she would remember that better
did he speak to her particular
'ly?"
yes"
Did he speak to your mother?"
"Yes. he said he had mother and
would help US all he could"
Where was Mr.. Green In the
housed"
"In the front parlor."
did anybody else come to the
house?"
II don't remember"
mo other friends?"
81 don't remember"
Did Mr.. Green and your father
cry!"
Eyes, we all cried"
Remember anyone else then. dur
Ing the week following that day.
"I don't think SOL don't remem-
Der" $50
your mother was in an accident
at some. time"
Yes"
"she walked with some difficul-
tyr"
yes"
"she walked when she went to
Pearl Beach,"
Yes, she had bsen sick for some
time. ! was at Pearl Beach with
my mother for two or three weeks
and came home with her"
did your father ask Mr.. Green
what the Judge would do IL he did
plead guilty."
81 don't remember that"
The prosecutor then announced: