Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1914-10-23
Dictagraph Proved Her Sus-
picions Unfounded, Woman
ON Trial for Murder Ayers.
GOES THROUGH ORDEAL
OF cROSS-ExAMlNATiON
Kisses Aged Mother as She
Again Takes Stand-Case May
Go to Jury Tomorrow.

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stand today for the ordeal of cross
examination by the district attorney.
She appeared cheerful and refreshed
and said she was ready to reply to
all questions District Attorney Smith
might ask her, no matter what they
were
She faced a crowded courtroom.
Among the 200 or more spectators
who occupied every available bit of
space were long-trhe friends and
neighbors whose faces were Wreathed
with hopeful smiles as she began her
story. Ranged directly opposite her
chair, within the enclosure and less
than dozen steps away, were the
mother the daughter and the hus-
band of the woman whose life the
State asserts she took
This little group OF schoolgirl,
grandmother and middle-aged man
followed with intense eagerness every
word of her testimony.
Just before the defendant took the
chair she crossed over to her mother,
Mrs. Conklin, sitting at the counsel
table, leaned over and kissed her.
Mrs. Carman," began the district
attorney, you said you were sus-
picious of your husband. When did
You get suspicious?'
About year ago
bunt humOrs,T caused suspicion,
What causedN her suspicion she
could not say A woman did not
cause it--"just rumors."
We're the rumors about a woman?,'
No. just some one asking him
about his girls. Somebody told me
he was devil with the girls"
She could not recall who told her
this, or where, or when. At Mr..
Smiths bidding she named many men,
friends of DR. Carman, but could not
name one of them as having said,
How are all Your girls?''
Somebody was asking him that
question all the time" she said. "They
We're jesting | thought at first. hut
after a while | thought maybe there
might be some truth in what they
said. They would say TO me- The
doctor is some devil.
%nid YOU have IN inclination to
hear what the doctor had To say to
his women patients?u ,ess3s,s=ssll---ssa
In a way, yes; some of his pa
tents,"
did. you ask him where he was
when he was out all night2e
Yes, and he told me-
did you believe him.
"Yes, sometimes"
did your suspicious increase, with
time?"
Murder Dispelled Suspicious.
"They increased right up to the
time of the murder. They have all
been ~dispelled now"
How long have you been in that
frame of mind?'
Ever since the terrible tragedy.
What ! heard, or rather what | didn't
hear. over the telephone instrument,
reassured me-
For several minutes Mrs Carman
sought to evade Il direct answer to
the district attorneys question as to
whether she thought that her hus-
band was truthful. Finally she said
mo" She explained that she had no
real reason TO doubt him, however.
She was suspicious at first of the
women who called frequently at his
office; finally she was suspicious of
nearly all of his women callers. u
got tired of hearing things" she
said.
And the fact that a woman would
come to his office afterwards was
enough to make you suspicious? Were
you suspicious of your husband or the
woman?" asked Mr.. Smith.
Both, said Mrs. Carman firmly.
Some women, Mrs. Carman said,
We're more attractive to her husband
than she was, she had thought. She
one, but she wanted to find out. Il
had no particular woman in mind.
she said. Mr.. Smith asked if she
thought Mrs. Variance, the middle
aged nurse, whose face she slapped,
were more attractive than she Mrs.
Carman smiled and answered No
Under the rapid volley of the dis
trict attorneys pitiless questions, Mrs.
Carmans color rose and fell. She Bit
,1,a ola l4s,1 l,nt. ole al
hands. She appeared to he about TO
faint but her bottle of smelling salts
revived her.
She was made to describe the en-
tire scene with Mrs. Variance. She
said she saw DR. Carman give the
nurse SIS and saw her kiss him after
wards. 1t was the passing of the
money and not the kiss that disturbed
her. she said.
woman kissing your husband in
eratitudc2'
Did Not Object 20 Kiss.
"Oh no. replied Mrs. Carman
How long after the passing of the
money was the kiss administered?
"a few minutes. They were sitting
down alongside each other at the
time
Mrs. Carnan said She didn't rap
On the window when the kiss was
given, but waited until Mrs. arance
started to leave the office.
You went pretty fast around the
lawn 10 get to the door before Mrs.
variance. didn't your
Yes"
In reply to an inquiry, Mrs. Carman
Indicated that she slapped Mrs. Var
ance iwth the back of her hand.
Elow. as to the night Of the shoot
ing" said Mr. Smith. Did You hear
a shot?''
No. / heard some commotion."
''What2 shouted the district at
torney,
We'll. don't know whether Il
heard shot or not. J heard q noise. "
And your curiosity was aroused" 2"
surely. 1t was an unusual sound .
She thought it had come from the
rear of the house. and it took her
about a minute TO get down stairs.
she said. As she reached the head
Of the stairs she saw two women
going down the hail. but She made no
effort 70 find out who they were
After she went downstairs she walked
into the Haiting-room and leaned
against a inantlepiece for 4 moment
She did not sec any one downstairs
and went directly upstairs again
after having stood by the mantel for
Two minutes, perhaps