The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1914-10-21

An objection to the question was
sustained.
Kennary then asked:
"In what room were they talking!
"4O9."
Where were your"
1908"
What did you hear Brennan or
Gilman say?"
Il heard Brennan counting and then
! heard him (Brennan) say: Thank
you Then they talked about Gin.
mans references. Then the CONVEX
sation ended and Mr. Gilman seemed
to be going. and I motioned 10 one
Of the oflcers.-
Anything said a. you heard the
conversation about money!"
The prosecutor objected and was
sustained
was here anything else that you
heardf"
IT did not hear anything about
money unless Il was the, salary for
the position that Mr.. Gilman was
going to get through Brennan"
Was anything said about an over,
head track"
THAT was mentioned in connection
with SchTeiter's name" "a
did you hear Brennan say, This
10 the $1,000 for your vote on the
Wabash petitiony"
NO"
DID You hear him say: Here IL
the money I promised vou?'"
mo"
did you hear him say anything
about money!"
HAD Brennan told you when he
was going to hznd over the money!
He said we would know when we
heard him count"
did you hear him?"
I'VE heard him counting $40. $50,
$50, then We lost II, and next heard
Mr.. Brennan say: Thank you"
Did you give the 'officers sig.
nal?"
Il did when Mr.. Gilman was go.
ing out OF the room" .p
what did you notice people doing
In room 40s when they brought Gin
nan int"
McGurn told how Gilman came in
and was given a seat McGurn was
still listening on the photograph whom
Gilman entered.
Two of1icers, two prosecuting at
torneys, Mr.. Green, Burma, Smiley,
O'Neil, Sheridan and Mckenzie were
In the room, McGurn said.
He admitted that he had little ex.
perience as q dictagraph operator
ai&i also that the instrument was not
so placed TO work properly.
sgn a. "a Ia n
nan" said McGurn. repeating Burns
lecture. Operative Sheridan was sup
posed to take down this converse
ton, he said.
SLOW long did he continue taking
notes?"
'aUntil ne was told that schreiter
was In the other room and was or
dered In there. Then I took notes
until Sheridan returned. Sheridan
was writing on roll-top desk and
stood behind him"
McGurn said he heard all that Gin
nan said In thst room that afternoon.
Gilman completed HIS testimony,
Tuesday afternoon. In closing his
cross-examination OF the witness,
Prosecutor Frazer by long series OF
0uebllOnB OfO0kHt Ous sHt csske-@-~
the fact that Gilman told for the
f,rst time last Saturday that he had
n-"jobbed." more than two years
after his arrest.
"You hold yourself an innocent man
and fer two years you never made
any statement OF your side?" asked
tho prosecutor. An objection to this
question was sustained, but the prose
cutor was confident Of the effect the
question would have on the jury.
Gilman denied that Eddie
schreiter had paid him $3.50 for his
vote on the Detroit 4 Suburban Gas
CO. franchise. Jan. 5. 1909.
On redirect examination Gilman
testified that he had purchased this
several pieces Of property referred to
earlier In the trial on contract before
he became an alderman. He said he
transferred the property at No. 512
Lawndsleave. to his daughter 30 he
could rise money on H. Mention OF
two mortgages on the property
brought tears 70 the eyes Of the alder
man. Also, when Mcnamara, In the
absence of the Jury. read q Detroit
News eulogy Of Gilman and the part
he had played In the defeat OF the
Thompson.Hally franchise. the alder
man sniffed and used his handler