The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1914-01-17


case. That, also, ID not true"
Mr.. Pope caused some a1toniohment
when he added. There ts no woman In
the case" lie was informed that the
Pinkerton agency In New York had just
given out a long story OF Carls confession,
in which a woman and nobody else was
said to have sent Carl cunning for gun
men and then for Mr.. Ellis.
II am not responsible for any statement
the Pinkerton agency may make" said
me, not to the Pinkertons, although they
we're present As matter OF fact al
though they deserve great credit for this
arrest, Carl would not talk to them at all
At the finish.
Denies Relative story.
81 have heard of that story that the
supposed woman was relative OF Carts.
cant Imagine how 1t started
Was there then some other woman
mentioned in the Confession" a reporter
Mr.. Pope made no answer. His reply to
q query az to whether or not the tip that
led to Carts capture came from New
York gunman was, mo. And II that
were true I wouldn't tell you. DO you
suppose I would 'squeal' on a stool pigeon
His life wouldn't be worth n cent II did"
Interviewers got the idea that when
1lr. Pope said there In no woman In the
case" ne meant II wasn't true that Mr..
Ellis had ever wronged any woman. He
said that although a conspiracy charge
In outlawed by the statute of limitations
there may be some other charge avail
able.
Carl 10 held for the Grand Jury. accused
Of atrocious assault with intent to kill.
The maximum penalty. according to Mr..
Pope is seven years Imprisonment or n
hne OF $4,000. or both. II is expected
that Carl will be dealt with gently.
In a formal statement made before he
took the young prisoner to Bernardsville
to-day Prosecutor Pope said that the con-
fession was obtained In the county Jail
after he and Chief Williams OF the Cam
den branch Of the Pnkerton agency had
worked with Carl for many hours.
while there is much about this mys-
FERROUS affair which the interests of
Justice do not permit me to discuss at
this time" MIR. Pope said, principally
because there yet remain some important
portions Of the mystery to be cleared up.
this much may be accepted as authentic.
Carl was induced to believe that Ellis
had mistreated woman who was very
near and dear to him. In the light Of
recent events, however, IL may be stated
that this was but a subterfuge and not
founded upon fact. nor was ever intended
by any Of the parties involved In this con-
spiracy that this boy himself should carry
out the design. He was brought into II
solely for the purpose Of hiring some
guerrilla to do the trick.
Decided to DO the Job.
Failing to make the necessary ar
rangements and brooding over the in
dignity which he believed had been COM
mitted. Carl went to Bernardsviile, to the
Ellis home. Looking through the window
he saw Mr. Ellis sitting at the table, the
window curtains being UP. and he shot
Ellis. He had a Daily three barrelled gun
loaded with buckshot.
eHo sb< 80 - l.o a
for the first time that the real motives
for having Ellis removed were not as
stated TO him. There were probably other
motives which cannot be discussed or gone
into at this time. am not prepared to
cay whether the identity Of the other
parties involved in this conspiracy are
known to the authorities.
The Pinkerton detective agency has
worked hard with the Prosecutors office
IN this case. and II Is only fair to say that
too much credit cannot be given to John
A. Roebling. who has shown such an
interest in the case. rendering invaluable
assistance"
More definite as to Carls confession Is
the Pinkerton statement. 1t reads as II
Carl told the whole story to detective in
Stroudsburg. Pa. long before the arrest
The Pinkertons. told by Mr.. Roebling,
who 10 friend Of Mr.. E;llis's and inter-
ested in criminology and detective work,
80 run down this case II II took ten years.
eay they first suspected Carl after look-
Ing into the records Of Mr. Ellis's en-
ployees.
A few months ago they sent a man to
6troudsburg. where Carl was living with
his mother, Mrs. Sarah Carl. a widow
The detective and Carl went hunting to-
gether often and became fast friends. The
boy said he had shot a man in New
jersey and then gave the details.
Met "Certain woman"