The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1914-04-11

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bhetly bald young man. smooth OF
face and twenty-ninc years old. Ho
lives at No. 147 East Fifty-nfth street.
and 10 now In the motor car business.
IN July, 1919. he was a bartender.
Q. How long did you know Jack
Re2e7 A. For several years. I met
him at 272 Houston street. the Wal
dcef-Astoria Club. was playing
poker then. I've known Willie
Shapiro for I'VE or six years.
'On the morning Of July IS went
70 the Garden Restaurant TO see VIM
cent, was on the corner Of Seventh
avenue. II was after o'clock and
was waiting for Vincent TO come out
saw three people I knew--Jack
Rose, Bridgie Weber and Harry VAL
ion-standing by the door.
HEARD ROSE TELL HIM TO GET
OUeV.
"Just then heard Jack Rose say:
Here he comes. put II over him.
Just then saw Herman Rosenthai
4. and . woman afterward learned
wAs his wife come out. ] knew
something was going to come or and
y thought II was going to be some
tSlns done TO Herman. 90 l walked
=. o.. I didn't want to be there II any
ss<hine did happen"
r. Q. Were you at the Elks' Club on
,ths morning Of July Is. 1927
A. Yes. ! went to see Abe Gerson.
ssswhen I came away n gray car
~sbAssed me. Shapiro was driving.
y nz4dsie Weber and Harry WALTON
=. were In the car and Sam Schepps
:. was on the running board on the
eide from me. The car was going
-OVery fast eastward along Forty-third
street.
- Q. When did you first relate this
e insident. and TO whomf A. The week
= Of Becker's conviction l told It TO
-, Policeman Kelly Of the Sixth Pre-
oinct.. He was attached TO the Eliza
10th street station at that time.
Tho witness explained to Justice
CofR that no had now come forward
With his story because he felt II was
only Justice and right. but that he
/. had hoped to be kept out Of the ctse
entirely.
DIDN'T TELL POLICEMAN ALL
he KNEW.
Mr.. Whitman. who then cross-ex-
y Anrined the witness. asked:
50. "Why did you tell Policeman Kelly"
r well. was In the Criminal Courts
been convicted. and l saw Kelly on
"What did you say to Kellyf"
II told him that didn't think tho
people who did the shooting had been
q. What else did you tell him? A.
:, can't remember just now.
q. Did you say you saw Schepps
on the running board. A. No.
y @. Did YOU tell him you saw WALTON
VITA q pistol In his hand. A. No.
i. %. Did you tell him you saw Rose
IN the carr A. No.
tc' q. You didn't tell him anything ex-
IS cs0t you thought that tho man who
a dlA the shooting hadn't been locked
az upf A. can't remember. You're
doing your best to brighten me.
q, No, but you'll remember after
y. you got out. won't you? Why didn't
y you tell at the Becker trial what
you've told Mr.. Wahle? A. Because
~ 8. Afraid OF whom? OF the Dis
- trict-Attorney. tho police. OF Becker's
Z! friends, of the gunmen?
- A. I don't know what I was afraid
:, o. There's plenty In this town to be
afraid Of.
~, ia heard 10 much OF all sorts OF
shooting affairs I was afraid.
q. but II you were afraid OF the
evamen, your Testimony would have
helped them. Aren't you afraid now2
A. Well. I'm willing to risk ono life
70 save four.
,tNg WANTED TO TELL STORY TO
IL. ogckER'e BROTHER.
q. How was Il you made up your
Il mind Monday TO 20 20 Mr.. Wahle?
a. I decided 20 call up John Becker.
Charlee Becker's brother. who In at
tached to the Thirty-sixth Precinct.
hut could not get him on the tele-
phone. On Tuesday ] also called up,
~ but was told he'd DO In on Wednes-
day morning. I didn't call him We'd
nesday or Thursday.
Q. Didn't your conscience trouble
.. youf A. Yes.
a me witness testified that Mr..
shay, Charles Beckers attorney, had
advised him TO go to Judge Wahle.
q. Why didn't you come to the Dis
I :, trict- Attorney with tho stOryf A.
4 Oh. thatd be tho end Of my life. I'd
. q never have the chance TO get out OF
y your once alive. They'd croak me
on the steps. some OF Roses friends
y would.
Q. What time was II you were at
-s tho Eiks Club? A. II was about
~ half-past one.
Here the District Attorney pro-
duced the affidavit Of the witness
ana read to him that he had sworn
4 Il was I o'clock. In an attempt to
III reconcile these two statements Ores
ner said he didn't take any count OF
Inn ~ ho
District Attorney made him nervous
Dfeener was sure 1t was I or q little
after I that he was at the club.
Q. How long did you stay there ?
A. About twenty minutes. not longer
az q. Then Ii your affidavit not true
Z, You say here (the District Attorney
read from the paper) that you stayed
u. - Aha clslh until n h0Iif n nMa RI ar ha-