The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1914-01-19
WOMAN IN ELLIS CASE
Is HELD AS WITNESS
Aunt Of Boy Who Confessed,
Gets Bail After One
Night in Jail.
HER ARREST KEPT SECRET
County Authorities and Detcc-
tive Agency Take Sides
Over Carl's Story.

SoMERyiLLE. n. J., Jan. 1S.---Mrs. Grace
Holly OF Bernardsvillc. mentioned by heI
nephew. Paul Carl. os tho woman who
ins,igated the shooting of Monroe +
Ellis two years ago last fall. Is out undei
$4,000 bail as n material witness In the
case. She WAS taken into custody las,
Wednesday. held over night In jail. and
on Thursday morning she was released
after MIR Ellis had talked with her in the
jail.
The bail bond has not yet been filed
/ with the County Clerk. Frederick A
Pope. public prosecutor. told Justice OF
the Peace Kitchen before the woman's
release that he would take the bond.
/ The fact that Mrs Holly had been COM
United TO Jail as a result Of Carrs alleged
confession was kept secret by the public
officials who were concerned In II, and
! would not have become public to-day II
I the records OF the Sherff's office had not
1 been searched.
Even after the news of the arrest had
become public Mr.. Pope who used TO do
a great deal OF private legal business for
Mr. Ellis refused to affirm or deny II.
II have repeatedly said that would
make a full statement regarding this case
when verified or disproved young Carts
. statement" he said. Until then 1 Will
not give Information about IT.
Justice Tells of Arrest.
Justice OF the Peach Kitchen told how
Mrs. Holly who has been employed In Mr..
Ells's office for three years and whom
Ellis considers u right hand In his busi-
ness had been arrested. Justice Kitchen
said.
Last Wednesday I was called 10 the
county Jail by Public Prosecutor Pope.
found Paul Carl and Mira Grace Holly
there. She was crying Mr.. Pope handed
me papers committing Carl to jail on a
charge of atrocious assault and battery
with intent TO kill. l signed the papers
and committed Carl to Jail.
Mrs. Holly was held as a material
witness. She was locked up In the custody
of Deputy sheriff Ross and Keeper James
Major after she had been questioned
about the boys confession concerning her.
She was brought here from Pasking Ridge
In an automobile by County Detective Tot
ten and private detectives Thursday
morning Mr.. Ellis came here and saw
the women. and went out and looked for a
bondsman. Mr.. Pope told me that he would
take the bond"
County Clerk Alexander Anderson said
that the bond has not been fled, but that
II probably will be filed tomorrow. II Is
not unusual to delay filing bonds OF ma
terial witnesses In this State.
Tho county authorities have been work
ing all day on Carts statement. They be-
lieve they can prove or disprove II abso-
lute!y in time ana, as one step. County
Detective Totten Is going to New York
tomorrow to Ind an abb for the boy.
Incidentally. the private detective
agency. which caused Carts arrest u
said to have men who are shadowing Mr..
Pope and County Detective Totten. Tho
agency expressed It's belief In Carts con-
fession that Mrs. Holly hired him to shoot
Ellis. by arrestins Carl. and intends e. do
everything possible to try to have Carl
tried for the crime to which he confesses
In spite or the eagerness OF the agency
the belief here grows that Carl will never
be tried for shooting Ellis and there IL
also plenty OF belief that Mr.. Pope will
free him early this week on the ground
that tho confession can't be verified. Mr.
Pope and Totten said tonight that Carl
appears TO be dazed. while Mrs. Sarah
Carl. the boys mother goes SO far as
TO say that her son has been drugge<l.
Mrs. sarl said to-day that tho boy
denied having made the confession. She
Is convinced of his absolute innocence and
is helping the authorities all she can to
prove that his confession is not true.
Carl Went to New York.
"The shooting occurred on Monday"
she said tonight. "On the Thursday, Fri
day and Saturday before the shooting he
was in Stroudsburg helping mo move The
evening before the shooting he took
o'clock train TO New York on the Lacka-
wanna.
THAT train makes only one stop he.
tween Stroudsburg and Hoboken, and the
stop ~ at Dover. In his confession he
says that the Sunday evening before the
shooting he met Mrs. Holly at Gladstone,
which Is sixteen miles from Dover. lie
could not have met her at Gladstone.
taking that train, unless no walked the
sixteen miles"
She said that her son was employed at
that time by a metallic door company in
New York. Detective Totten is going 10
New York tomorrow TO see IL the records
of that company will show whether he
was at work on the Monday of the shoot
ing, The boy said in his confession that
he met Mrs Holly near the Office of the
tonkling Lumber Company AZ Bernards-
vile the morning Of the shooting and that
she pointed out Ellis TO him as the man
who was to be shot.
Another point made by Mrs. carl is
that the three barrelled gun with which
Carl says he shot Ellis reposed In a
closet in her house for three months be-
fore and three months after the shoot
ing. and that her hoy did not take It out
once
Detective Totten went to Stroudsburg
Yesterday 10 see II the boy bought the
huckshot with wSch Ellis was shot at the
shop where he says he did. Tho store
Keeper told him that 1t has been against
the law to sell that kind of buckshot for
three years and that when the law went
into effect he discontinued keeping It for
sale.
Young Carl has been unable to s,eep in
Jail. and Is IN bad shape. Mr.. Pope IA
going to get him doctor soon.
When Carl worked for Mr. Ellis after
the shooting he became quite a fayorite
with the girls OF his set In Bernardsville,
and has received many letters. a few
boxes Of flowers and ono box OF candy
from them.
Mr.. Elis reiterated his belief In Mrs
Ho'y's innocence, and said It was not
true that he knew who shot him, AZ some
or the newspapers quoted him. He did
not disavow his belief that ne has a
~.