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Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1914-12-23
FRISCO" LINKS
WILL Be OPEN
TO ALL VISITORS
Panama-P acific Exposition
Will Afford Golfers Fine
Chance to Play on Coast
Course-Locals Interested.

Golfers who plan to visit California dur
ing the winter, so that they may attend
the Panama-PaciAc International Bxposl-
ton, should not fail to take their clubs
along with them, for the courses in San
Francisco and the bay section offer splen-
did opportunities in the way of golf. With
the exception of the months of Septem-
ber and October, the present season is
the best time of the year for golf in the
neighborhood of San Francisco, save, of
course, when 1t is raining.
1t is only during the rainy season, which
Is from November to March during which
time the rain falls on an average of two
days a week) that the courses of central
California are covered with grass and
the green's are very carefully nurtured
during the rest of the year in order that
they, too. will not become turf There is
no rain in this section from April to Oc-
tober, but during that time excessively
high winds and heavy fog spoil the game,
especially in San Francisco itself.
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COLLEGIATE HEADS
WILL REVIEW RULES
OF GRIDIRON GAME
National Athletic Associa-
ton Meets in Chicago
Next Week and May Re
wise I9l4Football actics.

The football season of 1914 viii have an
airing next week when the National Col
legiate Athletic Association holds It's
ninth annual convention in Chicago, be-
ginning on Tuesday December %. Foot
ball is to be the principal topic OF dis
cussion and the great gridlron game will
be subjected to a searching analysis by
the leading coaches and college officials,
More than the usual Importance is at
tached to the coming meeting because
Of the fact that It was the Football
Committee of this organization which
brought about the radical revision Of the
rules in the winter of 1sO5-O6. DR.. Harry
L. Williams, the head coach Of the Uni
versity Of Minnesota, is stlll chairman OF
this committee, and he will make a re-
port on the last football season with
recommendations for changes In the
rules for the coming season.
In addition to the report or Doctor
Williams, there is to be an address by
Percy ID. Haughton. head coach OF the
Harvard football team, on Mental
Training in Football" Haughton has
always maintained that the mental con-
dition OF players is as important as their
physical condition, and his friends at
tribute the success of his coaching to his
realization of this truth.
The University or Pennsylvania will be
represented by DR.. r. TAFT Mckenzie,
who Is to report on the formulation of
new rules for swimming meets and on
THE regulation and control of athletics
by the nations of Europe"
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ANOTHER FIGHT F1Asco

"Ty'' Cobb and Johnny Piazzl were to
have met In the wind-up at the Fairmount
Athletic Club last night but after looking
over the size OF the house they decided that
there was not enough money in the house and
refused to box. Manager Jack Wynn sub
stituted Bobby Williams. OF this city. ana
Mike Doolan, OF Norrlsiown, in their
places, but the bout was most unsatisfac-
tory one. Dooan knows nothing about the
fghting game and was the receiver OF a good
hard lacing for four rounds, when hts seconds.
seeing that he was hopeessy outcassed,
tossed a towel in the ring in token of defeat.
v Hliams punched Dooan at will all through
the contest, but could not hit hard enough
to put the Norrstown boy away. In the semi
wind-up Jimmy Mcbride, OF the Goth Ward
and Jimmy Naulty were putting up an even
contest until in the second round Mcbride
caught Nauty a hard punch the nose
which sent the latter down for the count OF
nine. The bell saved him as he got TO his
feet but in the next round Mcbride got to
Naulty's Jaw and this time he went down for
III In the the third preliminary ''Phlr' Ryan out
classed Jimmy Owens and sent him to
dreamland In the first round. In the second
bout Eddie" King stopped Dan McMullin
was the best bout OF the night "Wiliie'' Benk-
ert and hobby Mccarthy boxed hard six
round draw,
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Football Paid at Princeton

PRINCETON, Dec. 23.-The financial
report of the athletic association made
public yesterday shows that football and
baseball are the only sports at Princeton
that pay for themselves, all of the others
being financed from the profits on these
two. The football figures for this year
are not included in the statement, which
covers the period from July IL, 1913, to
July 10, 1914. The football revenues in
1918 amounted to S59,22446, of which
S3l, 1886 came from the Yale game, and
S19, ,S5969 from the Harvard contest. The
expenses amounted to s2O,SsO.13. leaving a
balance of S3s,S44.33 The baseball rev.
enues were 32i.295.46 and the expenses
SIG. 1896.
Track was run at the greatest cost, ex-
ceeding It's revenues by S4561.49.
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CONNIE CELEBRATES
QUIET ANNIVERSARY

Connie Mack 10 celebrating, to use
the usual term, his sgd anniversary
today. The celebration consists In
doing his routine work at the office
OF the Athletics In Shlbe Park and
spending the remainder Of his time
quletlng at his home on Ontario
street.
Despite the upheaVals now taking
place In the baseball world, Mack Is
taking things easy. He has already
laid his plans for the future and Is
now sitting tight, getting his affairs
Into shape 70 Issue the first call for
his men TO 60 70 Jacksonville about
February 20, 1915.
The slN-tlms psnnant winner has
not lost his hold In Philadelphia, as
many outside serIbss would have the
public believe. on the contrary, the
fans OF this city, for the most part,
realize that Mack has done for the
White Elephants everything that
could have been done In the past,
and they know that what he does
now ls for the ultimate good Of base
ball In this city,
Local diamond fanatics and even
those not particularly Interested In
baseball are proud OF the astuts leader
OF the Athletics. These Join with the
Evening Ledger In wishing Cornelius
MeGllleuddy the happlsst returns Of
the day and expressing the Wish that
he may celebrate SO more ahHlVer-
sares before hls splendid career ls
ended.
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PENN ROWING scHEpUIE

The 1915 schedule for the UniversIty OF
Pennsylvania crews, submitted by Manager
Fred u. Davis, was approved by the new
Rowing Committee OF the Red and Blue in
stitutlon at its first meeting held yesterday
afternoon.
April 3-varslty and Junior Varsity races
with Yale ON Schuylkill River
May VARSITY, Junior Varsity and Fresh
man races with Annapolis on Severn River.
May s-rrtangular regatta with Princeton
and Columbia on Carnegie Lake, Princeton.
May 10 or 22-American Henley on schuyl-
kill River. Junior Varsity and Freshman
eights and a four will compete.
June 2S-Intercollegiate regatta at Pough-
keepsie. Varsity. Junior Varsity and Fresh
man races.
July 4-Peoples regatta on SohuylkIll River.
Varsity and other crows viii compete.
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BASEBALL RUMORC
KEEP FOLLOWERS
ON QUI WYE NOW
Yankee Transfer Will Not
Be Made TodayFarreII
Says Neither Donovan Nor
aMathewson Will Manage.

NEW YORK. Dec. 2s.--Jaoob Ruppcft.
Jr, who has been negotiating for the pur-
chase Of the New York Yankees, said
this afternoon, when located, after his
return from Chicago. 'The whole mat
ter Of the sale now is up to Frank Far
rell, president OF the club. Before Will
buy the club I will make certain de.
mands on Farrell II Farrell grants them
the sale undoubtedly will be contaminated
within two or three days. n Farrell re-
tuses to grant the demands-well that's
another matter. However, expect to
have title to the club within a week at
the most"
Ruppert was asked the name OF the
man who is to manage the new team II
cannot commit himself at this time on
the subject" he said.
Frank Farrell was not at his office
early In the day. but Secretary Davis
said The formal sale of the Yankees
mas not been made as yet Before any
sale Is completed Mr.. Farrell will have
to take part in It. Up to the present
Mr.. Farrell has not taken any part IN
the negotiations. Probably his turn win
come now that Rupert and Huston arc
back in New York"
Davis said he knew nothing about the
l9l5 plans OF the Yankees.
He said that the question OF new
manager was UP to the prospective new
owners.
In the event of the sale of the Yam
KEGS the most likely men to be traded
or sold will be Witt, Detroit; High, De-
troit; Regh, Boston Americans. and Mil
Ter, st. Louis Nationals.
Much speculation exists as to the prob
able manager to be named by the new
owners Frank j. Farrell. ono OF the re-
firing owners. asserted that the choice OF
manager win be a surprise to the fans.
He claims 1t will not be Christy
Mathowson or "Bnl" Donovan as re-
ported, but refused to give hint as to
how the surprise will be sprung.
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JOHNSON NOT FOR SALE
Griffith Says He Would Not Sell Un.
der ANY Consideration.

WASHINGTON. Dec 23.-"Under no CON
sideration will / dBpose OF Walter johnson
either through a trade or sale"
Manager Clark Griffith Of the Senator'S. to-
day made this statement his return from
Kansas City where he succeeded in bringing
the great pitcher back to the Washinston club.
Furthermore Eddie Foster Is not on the
market, nor any other OF my ball players
save perhaps few rockies he added.
II had quite a strenuous trip but have sue
ceeded In having the object OF my mlssiou
realized. Walter johnson will play with the
Nationals until he has outlived his usefulness
He Is elated over the fact that he Is once
more in our ranks, and l. above all otherH, am
highly pleased. IL is the greatest Yuletldo
have ever experienced"
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CADDlEs RECEIVE HoNoRS
whitemarsh Club Awards Prizes for
Conduct and Service.

Whitemarsh Country Club caddles are a
very happy lot today as they have re-
ceived awards for conduct and service
during the past year. sixty boys re-
ceived 81 each for having served the
members of the club and guests faith
fully, and other money was distributed.
Frank CASTOR was given n silver loving
cup for having won the caddies tourna
ment, while John Schubel received IS as
a second prize. The third bit OF money
was won by Clyde jay, 50 purse. OK
ford Devlin won the fourth prize of 50.
During the past year there were 1900
guests at the place to take part in golf
affairs. This is considered a highwater
mark locally.
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STAR QUITS WEST PHILLY
Moffit Ellis Curtails Scholastic
Course for Business.

West Philadelphia High School con-
stituents were sorry to learn that Mofiit
Ellis, the all-round Orange and Blue
athlete, had curtailed his scholastic
course at the school across the Schuyl-
kill River. He will enter business
career.
Mofilt was the best ground gamer of
the West Phillie backfield the past
season, even including Captain "Blll"
Wagenknight Ellis was picked on a
majority of the All-Scholastic elevens
selected by local gridiron critics. He
acted in the capacity of manager for
the swimming team until he handed in
his resignation.
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Farrell Not Notified

NEW YORK, Dec. 23.-Frank Farrell, owner
Of the New York Yankees, declared late yes
terday afternoon that the club had not been
sold to Jacob Rupert, Jr.. millionaire brewer
Ban johnson, president OF the American
League, is reported TO have announced that
the deal had been made.
II have not heard from johnson as to the
report that the sale had been made.'' gaid
Farrell AT this time / am In a position
TO state positively that the deal has not beea
closed. Before IL IN I'll know about II. boz
cauae II so happens that own that club ~
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Smith Through at oakmont

Macdonald Smith. the holder OF the Metro
politan open championship, who has been the
professional at the Oakmont Country Club.
near Pittsburgh. will not return to that club
next spring, Smith, who Is generally re-
gRrded the best OF the foreign-born profess
slonals In the United States went to Oakmont
at the beginning OF the which has
Just ended During the winter he will assist
his brother Alex at Bellear, Fla.
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Smith Fiehts McCarty Tonight

NEW YORK, Dec. 23.-Gunboat Smith and
Tom McCarty, OF Montana, will battle ten
rounds tonight at the Empire A. G, The bout
mas created unusual interest among the, FOL.
lowers OF the sport. McCarty is a cousin OF
the late Luther McCarty and comes here well
recommended by the experts out West.
'.limmy'' CIabby, of Milwaukee and Nike
Gibbons. OF 81. Paul are AZ last matched 20
H1eet in the roped arena. The officials OF the
Cream CITY A. c. have their signatures TO
mstch Tor January : and the two .tOppy''
111iddiaweights will meet In 1O-round battle
an mai night. in Milwaukee.
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DENNY, KAUFMAN WINS

round wind-up at the Palace A. G. here last
night .Berny" Kaufman OF Philadelphia, won
from Fighting Bob Givler, OF Allentown. The
bout was far from exciting, too much I'm
fighting prevailing in every session. Neither
boy was hurt to any extent
Jack Malone. OF Philadelphia, was out
pointed by Dominic Polereane. Of Norristown.
In thc semiwind-up. The preliminaries re-
suited in Arthur Short, of Norrlstown, defeat
Ing Young Lowrcy, OF Philadelphia, and Andy
MITCHELL beating Oscar White.
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Brown Has Fine Track PROGRAM

PROVIDENCE, r. l.. Dec. 23.-The Brown
University track teams schedule for 1915 was
announced yesterday as follows:
January %, Coast Artillery meeting Bos-
teni 10, 1rish-American A. A., New York;
February o, Boston Athletic Association, Bos-
ton; 20, Providence Armory; May l. dual meet
with Amherst; at Amherst; 5, dual meet with
Columbia, Rt Providence: 2i and %, New Eng
land intercollegiate games; % and 90, Eastern
Intercollegiate games.
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To Define Amateur Golfers

NEW YORK Dec. 2s.-A tangible PROPOSE
tlon for tho amendment OF the bylaws OF the
United States Golf Association so that the
status OF an amateur may be more clearly
defined came 10 light yesterday and will be
su limited among others, to the annual meet
ing OF the national body at the Waldorf on
January g. Its author Is a Well-known anna
teur, and the suggestion was made with a
view to aiding in the search for stricter rule
now being conducted by the association.
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Elect Skating Officials

NEW YORK, Dec. 23.-The board OF eon-
troll OF the National Roller Skating AsBocla-
tlon of the United States met last night IN
tho Heidelberg Building and elected the fol-
Alien Bisnchard, Of Chicago, honorary pres-
ident; Joseph Munich, OF Milwaukee, presi-
dent; Earle Reynolds OF Now York, vice pres
ldent; Leo j. Brlmm. Of New York. secretary
and treasurer.
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ST. JoE-LoYoLA GAME OFF

collegians Urged to Postpone Match
With Baltimoreans.
The basketball contest scheduled to-
night between st. Joseph's College and
Loyola College, of Baltimore, was post
poned indefinitely, at the request of the
Maryland boys.
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Women,s SWIMMING Meet Next

NEW YORK, Dec. .2s.-Annette Rellermann
will donate a special loving cup as n prize
for the winner OF the woman's indoor swim
ming and diving champonship to be held at
Madison Square Garden during the Sportsman's
Show, week OF January 20. Tho races Will
be staged for the hrHt time under the rules
and regulations OF the A. A. u, which Will
permit mixed competition.
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ouimet Hockev Manager

BOSTON. Dec. 2s.-"Franeia oulmet, hockey
manager" .
No more-for a time at least--will the world
famous amateur champion and member Of the
woodland Golf Club be referred to solely by
his golf title. Ouimet has branched out a bit
in the sport world and Is now a fun-hedged
manager OF q hockey team composed or golf
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Frick to Try Come Back

NEW YORK, Dec. 23.-Paul Pilgrim, who
takes Just as much Interest in the New YORK
the club. said yesterday that the Winged
Foot had a surprise for the Junior champion
petition. Several years ago Frick was one OF
the best middle distance runners In the dis
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1914-12-23
Ball Team Returns

SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 23.-Members Of the
All-American and All-National baseball teams,
who played series OF exhibition games IN
Hawaii arrived here yesterday on the liner
Matsonia, from Honolulu.
The players left for Fresno, where the teams
will play today, Games also will be played
In Bakersfield Los Angeles and san Diego be-
fore the party starts East.
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Lobert On Way Here

CHICAGO Dec 23.-Hans Lobert, third
baseman Of the Philadelphia Nationals who
has been IN chicago Two days, failed to come
League or with Manager McGraw, OF the New
York Nationals, and left for Philadelphia last
night
President Gilmore talked with Lobert yes
terday afternoon. The Federals had not
given up hope Of signing Lobert, Gilmore
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SCHOLASTIC NOTES

Following their games With, yh,,! La Sale College
ernoon Southern High and Catholc High have
shelved their basketbnlls and VIII not continue
the cage snort ubtil after the first OF the year.
Southern win play West Philadeiphia High
JANUARY 2 in their first Scholastic League
game willie the Purple and Gold will encoun-
Ter the Art and Textile Ave at home on the
same date.
Coach Hronshead has developed a corlxlng
soccer eleven at Germantown Academy. All
OF the players are showing up hney in prac-
ffce C'ofhn who was picked for end posi-
lion on the All-Intera eademic football team. Is
captain OF the soccerttes.
Central High and Northeast Hlgh basketball
representatiVes are enjoying a vacation at the
present time. Their days OF leisure will con-
tinue until five dave after the New Year. when
the mentioned hves viii Dry the lid on their
sehoiastie League schedule BY opposing each
other
Camden High School has two basketball
games scheduled before the first day, OF the
Ioi5 period. The JerseYites Will line up
against the Alumni quintet Christmas after
noon and on December e the school across the
Delaware VIII be the host OF Brown Prep's 5
team,
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schaefer Much Sought

CHICAGO Dec 23.-Herman schaefer. who
recently was released by the Washington
fered the management OF the Los Angeles
club Of the Pacific Coast League. It was an-
nOunced today.
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sslt lake Joins Coast League

.alts city will bs the sixth city In the Coast
/ ,easue baseball circuit, taking ths place Of
spnounced last night. salt Lake Is 20 pay
$1,000 Tor the franchise and IA Sacramento
Mission players
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WI. and ]. Reieets NavY pate

WASHINGTON, Pa. Dec. 23-rhe arrange
Il.l1t, ms9t OF 4 ThahksgivlnE Day game in wash
OF an oner g meet the Navy at Annapoiis
on October 80 and the elimination az five
teams that appeared on the 1914 footbaii
schedule comprised an announcement yesfer-
day BY Graduate Manager r. M Murphv ~
Mlshington and Jellarson.
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aRilln James Good Hitter

rbs American Association batting and hsld-
grr syerages for 1914, made punlic this morn
inR show w. James, OF Cleveland 70 pc the
sder among the pitching regulars and MIN
neapolis the best defensive team
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Latzo a Winner

HAzLEToN. Pa. Dec. 23.-TheFs was, no
doubt hero yesterday as TO who Is the light
weight champion pugilist Of the Lehigh coal
fields. Steve Latzo. OF HaEleton. earned this
titie In a 1O-round match against Jack
BruEzo, OF coleraine, at the Grand Opera
House Last night, when he showed decisiVely
tfat he lH IN every respect the superior or
the South Side man.
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Snow Carnival Planned

HANOVER, N. H.. Dec. 23.-Preparations
are being made by Dartmouth College for the
annual snowshOe and ski carnival to be held
next February. II will be an invitation af-
fair, with several winter sports included.
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Rnakathan Tie nroken

In an Interstate Basketball League game
last night the Germantown X. ~, @. A. team
dsfeataa the Camden team 20 70 30, This game
broke the tie for second place between Tren-
ton and Camden.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1914-12-23
RHvERE WINS Ar sKEEBALL

Tue Revere Rubber Company won an
interesting match game from the United
states Tire Company team for the s. s.
Poor Trophy IN the first skeeball match
ever contested In this city The games
uere rolled on the new alleys In Chief
Bs1dsr's sporting goods store.
Evening public ledger. [volume] (Philadelphia [Pa.]) 1914-1942, 1914-12-23
Shorten star Ratsman

BOSTON, Dec 23.-Charles shorten. OF
Worcester. was the leading batsman of tha
New ENGLAND League. and Pearson and
Thompaon. both Of Lawrence. were the Lead
INK pitchers last season, according 10 official
averages lust made public
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nnnin nnd Mneee nicker

BALTIMORE, Dec. 23.-Charles Doom and
Sherwood Magee, catcher and outhelder Of tire
Philadelphia National League team. have ad-
mitted they had a conference with local
Federal officials some time yesterday.
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Tigers Play Hockey Tonight

Prlnceton's hockey team will have its argt
tTyout OF the season at the 81. NIcholas Rink
New York city. tonight, playing the irish,
American A. c. seven.
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Race Christmas Day

Northwest BOyS Club members are
anticipating much pleasure Christmas
morning. closed slA-mils street race
Is planned at 1880 o'clock.
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Marauette Runners Aetive

Several OF the crack runners OF the Mar
quetts Catholic Club viii participate ip the
race held under the auspices OF the CPort
Rlchmond Business Mems Association, Christ
mas Day.
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Yale Five Beaten

WASHINGTON, Dec. 2s.-YaIe's basketbsu
team lost q hard-fouEht game here iast niHgjb,i
70 Catholic University by % 10 25.
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CAMDEN FIVE WINNER

The deadlock which has existed in the East-
ern Basketball League between Camden and
game, 80 to 30.
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Soccer aame Chrislnas

The Keystone and Hibernlan soccer players
have arranged % play an exhibition game
Christmas Day az the Falrhi1 Ban PARK, 81
street and Lshigh avenue.
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Yele Hockey Team wins

NEW YORK. Dec. 23.-Yale defeated ST
Paurs School, OF Concord ~ h, al hockey
last night al the st. Nicholas Rink, 0 to q