The Detroit times., 1914-10-20

chief clerk to the general yard
master"
what salary"
"Seveny-five dollars month"
How much as alderman"
zone hundred dollars a month"
did you draw salary as member OF
school board or as trustee OF Wood
mere villagey"
| mo"
What does your family consist OFF,
| wife and two children"
Were the children grown-up In
ls06Y"
THE oldest girl would be about ls
the other IL OF H."
what real estate did you have In
l1s12r"
Gilman pondered over the question
and his counsel made an objection
The answer was allowed.
Two houses and Ave lots" said the
witness finally.
What else?''
That's ALL"
Where were the houses locatedY'
mo. 81 Blackstone-aye and No. Sic
Lawndale-sye. lived At the latter
address"
Exception was taken by defense to
this entire line OF examination.
How long before 1912 did you have
the Eawndale-aye house?"
Two or three years. paid $3.50
for IL and In 1912 had paid 81. 400 or
$500 on 1t. There was mortgage
on It..
Gilman said he paid $40 for the
shack" on Blackstone. He bought II
before the Eighteenth ward came into
the city.
Two OF his lots were located on
Ferndale. he said. two on Springwells
and one on Fort-st.
The two on Ferndale he bought at
an auction sale. paying $3.50 for them.
he said. The two on Springwells cost
$50 each, he thought. The lot on
Forrest. cost $3.50. These lots were all
purchased before the territory came
into the city. he said.
Ever own corner Thirteenth-st. and
Porterf"
NO, sir"
Anything on Fourteenthst?"
no, air"
None except what you have seized
uled?"
INOyA blI.
ANY eQuity?'
NO. SIR"
The witness said he sold a lot on
Blackstone for $500. ave or six years
ago. He used the money, he said,
to put into the Lawndale property.
sold any property to your daugh-
Gilman thought minute and said
that the house At No. 5l2 Lawndale
was transferred to his daughter.
Grace, about six months ago.
Il got lot In the cemetery" Glin-
nan added. smiling. Il paid about
From 1907 have you had any m
come other than your salary as an
alderman"
Not any regular one"
ANY Irregular
mo, sir"
when were you president Of the
common council?"
II think In 1870"
Were you the only politician op-
posing the Thompson-Hally ordi-
nance?"
Il didn't know / was q politician"
"A statesman then?"
Cant answer that"
We're you the only one opposed to
the ordinance?"
The returns didn't indicate that"
Gilman said he made one speech
In the Light Guard armory, and then
In the Eighteenth ward against the
ordinance. The witness was decid-
edly "cocky" In his answers to the
prosecutor.
Those the only ones you recall?p
Yes. sir"
Were you the only Republican
making speeches against the alder.
men?"
"Oh. mo-"
big campaign against IT."
Yes"
Evening News was strongly op-
posed to it?"
Yes. SIR"
DO you claim that you were the
biggest factor In the fight against the
|ordinancef"
Il don't claim that
Only q minor factorr'
In the city, yes; In the council,
no."
The council submitted it to the
peopleT
yes"
you wanted that?"
mo"
Then you took the stump
Yes"
Gilman refused to admit he was a
minor factor in the fight.
Il might have been the principal
factor" Gilman said. Il didn't de-
feat the ordinance: the people did
that. / did as much as could do to
defeat IL. I used my influence In
the council, In the Light Guard arm.
DRY meeting, and on the streets"
This made you the target for
Thompson's attack"
81 don't know"
WAS Thompson trying to elm
mate you from the political feld?"
Il never heard him say e."
Did you ever hear Thompson
claim ity'
Claim what?"
The question was read, and the wit
ness answered, NO"
Gilman wore q halfsmile on his
face as he met the sallies Of the
prosecutor.
Frazer showed the witness a car
toon drawn by Tom" May. now with
The Times.
You know him nowf"
Yes"
But not In 1917