New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-10-23

out before breakfast was the part ~
the doctors Office and leading up the
back stairs TO Elizabeth's door:
Q.-What was the reason TINT YOU
took II out! Al thought the doctor
had trouble enough OF his own, and
did not want him 10 think ! was suS'
picious of him.
time you had n dictagrsph installed
Q.-You had not told him anything
about IL? A.-No.
Q.-On the night of June 10 we're
you listening nj the dictagraph! A.
No, sir.
Q.-were you listening any time that
nighti A.--No.
Odd you have any regular prac-
tice as TO when you would listen over
the dictagraph? A.--The only tune
would listen was when wouid see
some one in the Office that | used TO see
regularly, and ! would listen on the
dictagraph.
Odd you ever listen when strang;;
ers were there? A.-Not unless useu
TO see them very often. NH
Q.-You knew Mrs. Lulu u. bsileS
In her lifetime7 A.-No, l never ala:
Odd you ever see her oody aIsei
IL was dead? Ayes, ] saw u IN 'oi
nell's morgue, in Hampstead.
Q.-And, after looking ut the oody,
did you satisfy yourself as to whetheT
you had previously seen herr Al
had never seen her. -,
O.-Under what circumstances dlu
you visit the morgue where Mrs.
Bailey's body was? A.-Because you
asked me if knew Mrs. Bailey ana
said | did not know her, ana you
asked me IL | would be willing to go
and sec the body and | said, Yes, ]
will be willing to go" and to do any
thing ] could to help the case along
Q.-When did you first speak to me
in reference to this case? Am
Wednesday, in the afternoon, you
came TO our house and called.
First Hint to Mrs. Carman.
o.-WilI you explain the attending
A.-You came, IKE
many other friends came, to ofer
their sympathy, and you told us how
sorry you were, and l said to you, Il
have Just seen my name connected
with the case in about four lines IN
the newspapers. connecting me with
the case" and | sad, "If ! need any
advice. will you advise met" and you
said you would be glad to do anything
you could for me.
O.-Then there was IN occasion,
that time, when your name was con-
nected with the case rs possible sus-
pect; is that right? Ayes.
Q.-Do you remember when you
went to Hampstead to view tho body
do you know whether or not any one
followed you? A.-The day we came
home from Hampstead we thought Of
going to East Rockaway, and Frank
Dollon and Mr.. Riddle were in the
She-iff's car, or some car, and they
followed US home.
Q.-At that time Frank Dollon was
employed by the Sheriff OF the county,
wasn't he? A.-Yes.
Q.--Mrs. Carman. have you ever
fired a pistol? A.-No. ,
Q.-Have you ever fired gun OF
any character? A.-NO, sir.
Q.-Do you know anything about
firearms? A.-No, sir.
Q-Now, prior TO June-after June
80, did you ever see the District Attor'
rey7 A.-Oh, yes, lot of times.
Q.-More than once? A.-Oh, yes.
Q.-Where we're you when you saw
him? AT our house. He came as
much as four or five times day.
Q.-And you would have talks with
the District Attorney Ayes.
Odd you ever talk with the Dis
trict Attorney in the absence OF your
own Attorney A.-0h, yes; you were
never present except the first night
Wednesday. was it. Mr.. Smith?
Mr.. Smith, don't know. Mrs. Car
man; you are testifying, not me.
Q.-On the night of June 80, after
you had supper, did you go downstairs
any more7 A.-No.
o.-You have heard the testimony
Of Celia Coleman, have you not? A.
| have.
o.-You heard her testify that you
came downstairs, through the dining
room and into the kitchen? Ayes.
O.-Was that true? A.-NO.
Odd you 90 around the kitchen
again 10 the office window? A.-No, sir.
Odd you fire any shots from that
Office window? A.-No.
Odd you return from there and
70 back into the kitchen? A.-No.
Odd you have any talk with Celia
Coleman in the kitchen? A.-No.
Odd you have any at any time
A.-No.
Q.-Did you hear Celia Coleman ties:
tify that you came into the kitchen and
said TO her. Cecilia, ! shot him? Al
heard her testify to that.
Q.--Is that true? A.-No.
Odd you hear Celia Coleman tes-
tify that you came downstairs in a
kimono and nightcap on Your head,
as | understand? Al heard her say
that.
Q.-was that true7 A.--No, that is
not true.
Q-Did you hear Celia Coleman tes-
tify that you went from the kitchen
into the pantry and then into the Of
feet Ayes.
Q-Was that truef A-No.
Odd you hear her testify that she
followed you in the office? Ayes.
Odd you go in the Office at any
time after supper? Al was not in
the Office that night.
Q--on the night of the SOth? A
Not after supper.
Q-Did you show a pistol to Celia
Coleman on the night of the 30th? A
No.
Q-Have you ever had a pistol in
your hand, to your knowledge? A
Only once. | have cleaned the drawer
In the chiffonier, that is the only time
ever had
Q-What kind Of pistol? A-That
is a small pistol we have.
Q-That was the one taken by the
District Attorney on the night of the
Both? Ayes. think he took it down
and put IL in the office desk.
Odd you hear Celia Coleman tes-
tify that as you left the kitchen and
went into the Office that Celia Coleman
pulled on your arm? Al heard her
testify to that.
Q.--Was that true? A.-No, sir.
Odd you hear Celia Coleman tes-