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Ue Otd Not. Insists Nanton.

Nr Manton---No. he did not state ,Nat
Mr.. Whitman--Ncw You contradict Tn,
court.
r,c court-Iead the answer
Mr.. Man,on-h"wcy"r. won't fak-
time FOR you to 90 that want to &c.
through.
That furry Over. Mant"u made Rose
admit that he had lied abou, tho Har,
tlldavjt in his examination AZ Police
Headquarters AMI in parts Of his news
paper stories Rose denied that H. had
told louis Pitt IN III" Tnrbs that Becker
was innocent or TINT h" Lad offered 70
{ lic Office Fovc into gambling houses
Then Maaton examined hos. ds 20 his
conscience.
q. When you verc planning this 1iu--
dor ia not your conscience prick you at
all \ My conscience was under IN"
entire control Of Becker.
= Answer my question. yes or no. |
move t. strike that "u'. Now answer.
A. There were times II did. tried To
prove II hv preventive g
Tho last part of the answer ia not e. :
Into tn" rcco q
- W,N on III. .l,, tria! ,on thought
your conscience ia not PRICK YOU wncr
you w.r. planning 'ho murder. bu, on TIA g
TRIAL you thinl, your cons'l"h'" did prick
Won" s. YES .usrr 3. a reason Tor y
-. II Your conscience was prcl,ius YOU
didn't YOU feel you were doing terrible
deed \. In thos, moments Of
-. Yes or no. Us or no. \. :e't
that way. yes.
-. Md YOU didn't stop for moment
did you \. Many momcn, ! stopped
That Is all sad Mr. Mauton. and
thu crosse amiration that had taken
just iiv. hours was over. Nr MCINTYRE
spent seven hours and half on i:os,
This morning a. 1880 o'clock Mr.
Whitman ou redirer, examination viii
end, aNor TO patch tn" rents Iu Vosc'S
story made 10y Mantou. lie dorsu't ~.
poet To- take much tim. ~ the job aud IN.
defence viii have few questions they
say. on the recruss
Wehber will b, tho newt witness -..
Nehher ot whom L. WAS SAID IN IN. nrsi
trial that "ho had hear; a. big a~
Greenwood Cemetery" II is lik,lN that
hr viii Ice OF IN" stand all day supply
; tig missing links in Roses story AMI
wthstauding Mauton's battering RridGi,
Was In tho District Attorneys office Yes.
trrday and lunched lightly there ,Npec,-
ing 10 he called. He e. living in Passaic.
y J.
WALTON VIII follow W Lh.- la,o this
afternoon or tomorrow
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Suddenly Mr.. Manton put perhaps the
most dramatic question OF the afternoon (:
Rose. do you admit now that you are
guilty OF the murder Of Rosenthsl7'
81 object to that. your Honor pro-
tested Mr. Whitman.
lie may answer" said the Judge.
81 am not guilty" answered Rose.
@. DO you think that your part In this
crime did not constitute murder? \. !
do not know the legal status Of il.
a. Didn't YOU know when you signed a
stipulation Of immunity that you were
guilty OF murder" a. II was explained
To- me.
-. And you got your lawyer TO make
this bargain FOR YOU? y. | left all the
details to him
- This you call a detail. do you? A.
Whatever YOU call II. that is what It Is.
@ You were no. only arranging for
your own safety but taking care Of your
coconspirators. L. tna' right? A. They
were not my coconsplrators.
q Didn't You write In the letter ~
Sch"pps. ~ insisted that tho same pro-
lection given me b" extended 70 Harry.
Bridgie and YOU? \ | ordered the sub
stance OF such n letter.
. Why do you hedge now and say
this agreement Was not important?
NJ. Whitmar.-He has not said 80.
The court--Was not what?
Mr.. Manton--Was not important
Mr.. Whitman-He has 70, Sa'd any
thing OF tho kind. He said Il was the
most important thing In his entire life.
NJ. Manton--I object 10 the help OF the
District Attorney.
Mr.. Whitman object 20 your mis-.
quoting tho evidence
Tho court--ff YOU gentlemen vill stop
ohjcctirG TO one another | viii rule on
tho question. I think the objection liz
well taken. lie absolutely stated that IL
was the most important thing in mis- l.tc.
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SchcppSs letter written In reply q
Roses appeal was read to the jury
Schepps wrote that his name was sam
and he didn't go back on a pal. though
he iidn't see why Rose wanted him o.
corroburatc a frw lies.
,stt.ug S,hepps back 20 New York
and with III" other iuformers lu prison,
MIR. Miuton warmed TO his work % PROV
ing a perjury conspirar".
q Now. on the next day. when Schepps
was brought tn the Fifty third street
prison. did Schepps go over to Your cell
where YOU were then with WALTON and
Weber and sha'.c hands with YOU"
\. | think he d'd.
q. Thea Schcprs ond Mr. Whitman
walked into the counsel room is that 80
\. Yes.
@ And then You wen. into the coun
sci room, did you not? 4 7 do not re-
member
@. Then after tina, did Mr.. Whitman
go out and 20 over 20 Wehbers cell and
shake hands with him and his wife
A. 7 did not see that
.. D'd jack sullivan come 20 thc Fifty
third street prison y "
g 10 ,ou remember being IN tho nriso'
win Sullivan there aud do you remember
, sullivan saving. WHAT are you CONS {,
d,"' and you saying whitman want
Becker, hr don't want us.' 50 sullivan
said to YOU. You ha'dheadod --------
What does Becker knox about this?
DO YOU remember this \. No.
.. nd you say to sullivan. ~ viii
deliver ANYBODY Whitman wants II
was IN here another week ! would die
I am go.a- out S"lf-press rvatioH Is The
Hfst law 81 nature Did you say that
\ No
g Dd sullivan say - you "you don
think you are going to get away witt
anything like that. You are not corner
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Denies sullivan ipbrRidcd Him.

-. 10 you remember NJ Marshall ask
ing Sullivan what he was 50 excited
about. and sullivan then sayine They
are going 10 frame NJ Becker. do not
know how IN Gods world Whitman can
stand Tor that" 30 you remember that"
4. No.
q, Did he say: "Thc best thing YOU can
DO is lay down and die before You frame
any body" y No.
q. Then did Sullivan say to YOU You
are a fine lot Of buns, framing up
Uccker"" n No such thing.
.. And then did You SAY 10 him, I'VE
said nothing about you. W, have told
Whitman YOU arc rs innocent Of knowing
ANYTHING about this - NliiWtu's baby ."
\. Nothing like that Was said.
.. And dill sullivan say YOU bald
headed ----- am here for nothing, but if
you don't leave mo alone | am going T."
be here for something \, NOTHING like
that vas said.
.. Did YOU tell sullivan that Mr. Mos,
made YOU say that sullivan had left thu
poker rooms on the uisht of July t. and
went to the Hotel Mctropulc To- zee Il
Roscuthil was there, and camC back ana
gave the gunner the - u % - ., pInd
aud kill Rosenthal" \ did not,
MI Mabtuu demanded that the minutes
of tine Grand Jury b" produced intimatnG
that Rose had He'd Jusiic. Scabury saw
no occasion for IA, production Of the
minutes ~ that stage of tho case and said
SO. Mantun resumed the inquisituu.
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SHRINERS TO SEATTLE IN 1915.
y. u. smith Of dorchester, y. ", Is
New Imperial Potrntatc.

ATLANTA. May lathe 1915 conNcu-
;iou of the Shr!nsrs goes 10 Seattle wash.
and the date il fixed for july :. Tho
committee an time and plag" reported IN
favor OF Seattle. The California t"m-
Pile carried tive neht 20 ~. Hop. 81 the
convention. hut lost. Seattle las rIsc1
fund uf s270.oor 10 .rt-rttu Ga" Surtnor,.
Nr"der.cE Il. smith OF Kocncstc. y y,
ie the now Imperial rn''rtlf', having been
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Thought Cohen Was Moe Levy.

Q, That wasn't the important thing:
\, No
.. Sut you cannot remember whether
ar not you swore about that fact, az to
who drov" YOU uptown? A. ! didn't know
until lately that 1t WAS Cohen. ] always
thought it was Moe Levy.
=, You dklnt mention Moe Levy IN
the last tr!al DID You \. II it IL not
there ! d.i not mention il.
Manton tried to bring out that Rose
had talked to the chauffeur recently In
tho District Attorneys olilrc or at tho
Waldorf Astoria, where the District At
torncy had rooms to receive witnesses.
but Rose stuck to "a denial.
The cross-eNamncr went into every de-
tail Of the Harlem conference. lie got
Rose mixed up as to whether II was "a
Seventh avenue and 1891 street or Sew
enth avenue and l2&th street. He tried
To twist Rose rs regards the time of
tho conference. asking II tho witness
hadn't said 0 u. NJ. on the former trial
and between Q and 10 In this trial Rose
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Fred Syrop Of 81 Morton street. Brook.
Ign. was locked w in the Clinton stree,
police station late las, night charged
with shooting Samuel Reich, butcher. OF
- RN ington street, during a quarrel in
restaurant In Orchard street R-lcn 4.
IN a serious condition IN Gouv,rr,Ir Hos.
pital,
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WAY PAVED FOR BECKER TO co ON STANDF 81

that in this quarrel the truth about the
perjury conspiracy had been shouted in
the hearing Of other prisoners. Manton
also brought In the name of James NJ.
sullivan, now Minister to Santo Domingo.
He was Roses lawyer.
q. DO you remember Lawyer Sullivan
saying to Jack sullivan. you had better
do that what Jack Rose tells you. and
II you don't you will be in bad" and do
you remember Jack sullivan replying.
you drunken bum. you are a press agent.
You do worse than Rose for doliar
and IL you talk TO mo again I will break
your nose. | will be IN jail for some.
thing. | would not have you defend n
rabbit" A. ] will say that Jack Sui
Ivan did not say IL.
Q. Now LAWYER sullivan was your
press agent. wasn't he? A. In Connect
cut
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9. Can't you specify 20 this jury
whether you found him in a barnyard or
in a house or in the street? \. can
help you In that part Of 1t II was not in
a barnyard I met him.
Half a dozen members OF the jury
laughed frankly and for the first time
the court attendants had to shout for
order.
Mr.. Mauton turned TO the Harlem con-
ference between Becker. Weber and
Rose the night Becker took the Job Of
croakins" Essential out of Roses direc-
ton and gave it into the efficient hands
of Brdgie webber. Rose had testified on
Tuesday that Becker had asked him to
bring WALTON as Well as Weber. In 1917:
he testified that he just happened to take
WALTON along. Mr., Manton made the most
Of the discrepancy.
The Harlem conference is OF first inn
portancc In the case because tn" Dis
trlct Attorney has now evidence that
Becker Was with Rose. WALTON and Web
Der at Seventh Rvenu" and l.tth street
on the night OF June 81 1912. The Court
OF Appeals doubted the conference ever
took place. This time Mr.. Whitman
means TO clinch the Joint. The defence
is aware OF II, and therefore Mr.. Nanton
was at special pains yesterday To tanglc
Rose. One OF the new witnesses win bc
Abe Cohen. the chauffeur who drove Rose
and WALTON To Harlem.
q. You said that Cohen was your chauf-
feur? A. Yes
.. You didn't say so on the last trial,
did you \. don't know, positively.
O. Can't YOU remember what you sworc
to on th"se particulars in the last trial?
~ Not to say positively.
O. Wasn't that an important fact that
YOU would be likely to remember. who
drove YOU up there" A. The important
thing
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Again Denies \uth"rshtp.
.. Did you write this" A. No.
O.. l. II true? n. 80,
- li.n Voc

O. Is 1t n lie" \. Yes.
.. Th, was written after you haG
claimed To bc reformed" A. N'S.
Again and again Manton pinned lose
down na TO whether or not he lied In nm
nrwspap.r stories. For the most part
Rose tvlst,d to safety ny insisting
that hc was writing from rumor or hear
say. not from personal knowledge of bad
men and their acts.
Tho vross-cNaminat,on No'rcd 10 the
affidavit obtained by Lawyer Hart I'm
Rockers interests while Kos" WAS III hd-
ing al Harry polo,lIs. Hose sworo that
the affidavit WAS false because ho knew
from B.ckcr what Hart came for and
what sort Of AFFIDAVIT was wanted, Manlou
fought against the answer hut Justice
Seabury put It In the record.
At this stage Manton was Jumping all
over the chronology of the ease obviously
irving to entangl" Rose by quick r"turna
10 important d.tails Presently Mr.. MAE
tou settled down 10 one % the biz poln.s
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of the defence that the informers con-
cocted their testimony In the West Side
prison under the protection of the District
Attorney. In questioning Rose Mr. Mar
ton found ammunition in afIidavits made
by Jack sullivan and Lawyer Hartford n.
Marshall. He led Rose TO admit that he.
Wcbber and WALTON. and later Schcpps,
had the freedom of the Jail that they
could talk together and tat they often
conferred with the District Attorney or
one of Mr.. Whitman's representatives.
Reads Roses Letter to Schepps.
First. however, Mr.. Manton. greatly t.
tverybody's surprise. read the letter that
Rose sent 20 Schepps In Hot Springs, the
letter of such interest in the case:
DEAR SAM: don't know what you
have heard or read but 1t got down to a
stage where the electric chair stared US
all In the face. The first man to try to
get from under was Becker. There were
many people who saw everything that
night, and the next day the District At
torney knew what part everybody played
In the thing. Nobody could got away
was deserted like II dog by Becker. When
I saw what the situation was / opened
up negotiations with the District Attorney
who offered me n sort OF cover. hut I
cannot go into details by writing. I In
sisted that the same protection given me
De tNtenueu To ftdflN. lrfltB4p ana YOU,
. to which he finally agreed. We ar" all
pleased with the arrangement and my
worry has been to get you To- come I'm to
get the same benefits "" got before IT IL
too late. NV advice Is 80 let me send "A
: representative of tn. District Attorney
I to bring You back here Tha: would pre-
vent the police getting you aud putting
you through the. third degree. Don't say
word to anybody lunders-nr"dl You
| know. sam. that you have been too loval
and dear friend NJ m.nn Tor ~" t. ask
you t. do this 'f was a". positive that
you haven, sot a crluHo oth"rN So. I'm.
mediately on receipt Of this wire me 10
Louis's house what YOU want to do.
JACK"
Mauton wanted to know why Rosa
was seeking to protect Schepps II Schepps
| was innocent The lawyer bore heavily
! on the idea that Schepps was as much IN
| the plot as Rose or Webbur. hose re-
piled that Scherps had to be protected
becau he had been sent to Bockera
| house with a message on the night after
the murder and because he carried loco
: from Webher to Rose. the gurmen's pay
Msnton did his best to make schepps out
| as an accomplish.
-. You knew Schepps was involved IN
the murder. didn't YOU y. Not in
! VOWED In tho murder no.
q. Vet you wanted to protect him 4.
/ For what he d.d the mis- 10 after y"-.
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continued from First Page.

r.re telling not a manufactured story
Int the absolute truth.
A. always. Rose was alert, crafty, re-
'.ourceful For example. he took sdvan.
,,se Of a slip by Manton and got into
,,s testimony. like a flash, the statement
cha, ho had sent Sam Schepps to Becker's
house the night after the murder. All Of
u,nton's objections and protests couldn',
60, that out of the record once Rose nau
aid II, and the District Attorney exulted
,.caus. lie hadn't known for the life OF
him how he was going to get that testi-
nony in by the prosecution.
Rose took full advantage. also, Of
another act OF the defence. the voluntary
,r,roduction OF the letter that Rose wrote
"a schepps when Schepps was loafing in
Not Springs. the letter which began: "Tho
ire, man to try to get from under wa,
ecker" This letter. which the prosecu-
zion points to as an indication that Becker
vas connected with the murder, played
4 par, In the verdict Of 1912.
Defence Sees Hint 70 Schepps.
The Dlstric. Attorney was genuinely
amazed when Mr.. Manton saw ut to read
10 the jury in this trial. but Mr.. Man
IONS explanation was that the letter
helms the defence because It's opening
statement means not that Becker was
connected with the murder but was a hint
for schepps TO say no later on.
Again at the close OF the long examina-
lion. when Manton dwelt sarcasticalIy
upcn Roses conscience, asking the wit.
ness why his conscience did not prick
him while he was planning the murder
AZ well as afterward. Rose replied slowly
that Becker was his conscience then. The
answer was not permitted to 20 into the
record OF the case. but the Jurors heard
II
Mr. Manton concluded the cross-exam-
nation rather abruptly. His questions
had not run with the chronology of the
case, but had swung this way and that.
rom episodes that occurred long before
the killing OF Essential to episodes that
took place long after. But he finished
without questioning Rose concerning tho
movements OF plotters or murderers OH
the night Rosenthal was shot. He
avoided the gathering of the gunner n,
webbers poker rooms. the bringing of
psso Frank from Harlem. the telephone
conversation between Rose and Becker
few minutes after Rosenthal was killed
and the conference between Becker. Web
Der and Rose In Forty-second street.
These omissions increased the belief
iha; before this case Is given to the jury
Charles Becker will have had the oppor-
turity to speak Out for himself. His law
yers will not say whether or not Becker
10 to testify. They content themselves
With the remark that the matter has not
been finally determined.
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Rose Admits fenrtng Gunmcn.

o. And after you had the falling out
with Roseuihal. and that was solna time
after the raid in April. was it not? A.
Yes.
@. Right after that falling out with
Rosenthal. Sam Paul told YOU, did he not,
that the avenue boys blamed YOU for the
frameup on Zclg? Is not that SO?
y. Yes.
Q. And then you became fearful OF the
gang OF gunner. did you not \. Yes
q. And 50 you met this gang Of gun
men at II place called the Beaux Arts"
\. Yes.
q. And the objec, of this meeting was
10 assure the gunmen thar YOU had no
part IN tho frameup' \. Yes.
q. And after that cxplanation--thcy did
not fully believe it--you offered evil
dencc of good faith to bail out IcliS ="
\. Yes.
q And Webbcr put the money nm. did
he not? A. Yes
q. And when Lefty Louie was shot in
Chinatown YOU went MP and sympathz"d
with him did YOU not? y YES.
This testimony concerned IrliS's first
arrest not tho second. on which he secured
bail with sl0.0O0. part 'of which Becker Is
accused of furnishing.
Mr.. Munon', next point of strategy was
o. establish that Hoscuthal had circulated
the report that Hosr framed" /clig. Rose
admitted the truth Of the statement He
made Rose say that he WITS angry at
Rosenthal Tn" questioning turned To
Sch.pps Rose SAID he huG employed
Schepps to do nothing at all and tnat he
had paid Schcpps.
AIunton then went back to Roses deal
lngs with gunner. He quoted from one
OF Roses newspaper stories
"While ] was in the gambling bust
ness | knew hundred of gaupstcrS who,
at "A word from me. would have done my
bidding with or without pay say" for a
reasonable amount 20 MAX, SURE of their
getaway or to pay expenses when they
we're trailing their victim"
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BripGs In Name of New witness.

This brought In the name Of one OF
Whliman's most important new witnesses,
james Marshall. a youth who was a stool
pigeon for Becker and who WI testify
that he saw Becker talking with Rose.
Webber and WALTON.
Manton hammered NJ Rose. trying 20
make him tell why he hadn't mentioned
Marshall in the first TRIAL. Rose eyaded
a direct answer. but insisted that lac hadn't
seen or talked with the new witness since
the Harlem meeting.
Q. lie is an ordinary colored boy. isn't
he?
Mr.. Whitman. l object
g. Old YOU see any peculiar mark on
him | object to all cOous looking alike.
\. No, did not
.. No way t. recognize HIM at all" \.
No; | would hot know him II he came in
here.
This ended the morning session. ~
Manton began second stag. Of h.s Ell
fort to show that there WAS an old en-
nifty between RIOS. and EosrnthIl and
that Rose must have been IN. ONE VINO
ordered the murder--not Reckrr We
forced Rose TO admit that he had lied on
numerous occasions. such rs the time
Dougherty questioned him AZ Police
Headquarters. Rose explained that cpl
500. bv saving No 'od to protect Becker.
Then Mauton turned to the theory that
Rose feared death from thu guum,n be-
caus. OF Rosenthals gossip that hc had
caused Zc!ig 10 be arrested for pistol
carrying.
q. |cllg was what ~ called gurn1an
y. Yes.
q. Lefty Louie and Gyp the BLOOD
tho-, men were In his Gang, weren't they
A. Yes
q. And Zerr was the so-cal;cd head Q!
the gang, wasn't H. \. Yes
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replied slowly that Manton had the adj
vantage OF the record--he dldn', know.
Presently the lawyer got Rose to say
that Becker CAV" Weber $500 to start
Jack Zelig's bail fund. although Rose
had said In 1912 that nc, Rose gave the
money 'o Wehbcr.
.. Have YOU said all that Becker said
70 YOU at tn. time \. We'll. only that
he was there that night ana made the
raid and in his conversation a colorsd
boy came up and talked with Becker and
when the hoy left Becker said he was not
going to make the raid yet a while.
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and the testimony in the second. but the
repetition OF the answers duplicating
Becker as Rosenthars partner served also
to emphasize the accusations.
in this part OF the cross-eXaminat.on
Jurors occasionally glanced ut the clock
and moved restlessly In their chairs.
Manton's voice fell monotonously after
Roses every answer: Did YOU say a
word about that on the last trial?"
Roses cautious reply seldom varied: III
IL is in the record | did" or. III 1t is not
in the record did not
9. Have you not read this 1.-THE rec6rdl
since the last trial? \. did not.
.. Not word OF 1t? \. No, word
of IL.
=. OF course nobody read (, to you?
A. No.
Referring 20 telephone conversation
with Becker 20 which Rose testified on
Tuesday. Mr.. Manton sad: Don't you
know the fact is that you did not say a
word about IL on the last trial.
Forbids Reference to Decision.
Rose replied that he "mean, to-" and
Justice Seabury let the answer stand.
Manton persisted:
Q. And don't you know tina; YOU put
the caution about not talking over the
telephone In your conversation this time
TO meet some Of tn- language of the Court
of Appeals In its decision?
Mr.. Whitman-Oh. | object. II your
Honor pleases.
The Court--The objection Is sustained.
.. Did you put the caution In that con-
versation because the Court OF Appeals
referred TO these various conversations
about the murder over the telephone as
unlikely 10 be true?
Mr.. Whitman-I object 10 that.
The Court sustain tn. objection and
will now rule that reference should not be
made 20 the contents of the decision of the
Court Of Appeals on this case. Counsel
for defendant may understand this and l
will note the exception al the defendant.
! think that ruling can be observed
throughout the rest Of tho trial.
This ruling will prevent the defence
from impressing upon the jury that the
Court of Appeals rejected certain parts
of tho testimony tina! will be offered in
this trial
M Mantou. still seeking TO entrar
Rose into contradictions, inquired as Ia
where he met WALTON when they set out
to see X~lig in the Tombs. Rose knew II
was In Fourteenth street, but whether II
was In cafe. in Nallon's house or In the
street he couldn't remember. Becker's
lawyer sneered' openly.
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Viz MInton---No. he did not state tNat
Mr.. Whitman--Nc Now You contradic, tn,