New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-12-03
WAR BOCIE SEES
PEACE PRICE LIST
Gardner, at the Economic
Club, Warns City of Bom-
bardment Peril.

War and peace met last night at
the dinner of the Economic Club at the
Hotel Astor. Representative Augustus
=. Gardner, speaking in behalf Of his
bill for a Congressional inquiry into
our national defences, said that New
York might yet see a foreign feet
living a mile and a half beyond the
range Of our biggest guns and play
ing mashie shots into our coast de-
fences"
DR.. David Starr Jordan, Chancellor
of Stanford University, California,
seid that the doctrine of preparing for
war in time of peace was the most
lamentable and abominable failure in
all history. While not advocating
peace at any price, said DR.. Jordan,
he was in favor of consulting the price
list.
"The first thing we want to know in
this great crisis" said Mr.. Gardner,
is, Where does the United States
stand? and not, "Who threw the first
brick? When we know that I'll trust
the people of this nation to say
whether they want us prepared to de-
fend ourselves or not.
"Do you suppose that human nature
has so changed that we can trust the
future to arbitration? There are cob
webs in the great hall at The Hague;
Turkey put the finishing touches on
the Declaration of London when she
came into the war.
"Do you suppose that we can sub
stitute Sunday school signatures for
coast defences? Do you suppose that
mass meetings and Chautauqua lect-
ures take the place of dreadnaughts!
"Can you arbitrate race hatred? Can
YOU persuade the Russian to love the
German? Can you persuade the San
Francisco labor leader to love the Chi
naman? Can you arbitrate slavery?
Why. an attempt to do it brought on
the Civil War. Can you arbitrate the
Monroe Doctrine?
ats a mighty sound doctrine, but it's
not a pacific doctrine. It's first class
doctrine, and it can't be upheld by
third class feet"
Jap Troubles Reviewed.
The presence Of several Japanese did
not deter Mr. Gardner from referring
TO Pacific Coast troubles.
ave said to the bravest fighting race
Asia has produced" he said, "'You
can't come in here Pm in favor of
excluding the yellow race, but this ma
ton. if it is going to be dog in the
manger, must not be a toothless dog"
Failure TO follow the well grounded
plans laid down by the Navy Board
when he first entered Congress had
nlaved havoc with the navy, declared
Mr. Gardner. For 5l1 torpedo tubes
tbere were only SO long-range torpe-
docs His correspondence showed, ne
said that most people admitted our
army was insufficient.
"You think you have some coast de-
fences here in New York. he SAID.
apo YOU know that the biggest guns IN
vour forts have a shorter range oy a
mile and half than those IN the new
laid down by Germany
and Great Britain? A heet couid lie
mile and a half beyond the range OF
your guns and play mashie shots INTO
your forts: Al.
of this war would be too exhausted 10
undertake another. | say to you that
the winner of this war IS gong 10 De
nre,tv able citizen, and don't you for
~, I, And. what's more, the nation
that is friendly to-day is unfriendly to-
morrow"
awe peace men," said DR.. Jordan,
"h ave already scored victory. There
ia NOT a man or a nation who will ac-
LroyleJge responsibility for this war.
This war was a founding lett on the
doorstep of the nations.
He disapproved and believed that the
business men of the nation stood with
him. he said, of the United States en-
tering the war expenditures handicap.
"a great armament" he said. 'will
hiring yictory-perhaps. IL will never
bring peace. When everybody is
loaded somebody explodes. When no
one is loaded, no one explodes.
German Aid Lauds U. s.
DIR. Bernhard Dernburg, former Ger
man Secretary of State for the Colo,
nies. who was the guest OF honor, SAID
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