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Officials Of Big Business Discuss the
Efficiency and Limitations of Women
When in Competition With Men,
Problem of Losing Valuable En-
ployees Through Marriage

cause he could get it. not because he
would do the work any better than the
woman. The point Is that there Is more
demand for such men.
More than this, I believe that there
must be a consideration of social re-
sponsibility in fixing the rate OF an
individuals pay. Take. for instance.
the position Of a confidential stenosra-
pher which may be filled very salts
factorily and efficiently by a young
woman Of % or "a who has no re-
sponsibilities or cares than her own
support. That Identical position may
be filled by a man. the father of n
family, with II wife and children to
clothe. feed and educate. I believe that
that man should be paid more under
present social conditions.
There Is altogether too much eX-
ploitation OF women at low wages,
largely because so many OF them have
gone to work in the last few years that
they have glutted the market and there
has been O chance for steadying and
standardizing their wages
Il should not want to say that women
should have absolutely equal wages
with men, that Is too much OF gem
eralization. But ! do believe that In
any large scheme Of profit sharing,
pensions or other general benefit to the
employees as class the women should
share equally with the men. that is on
scale proportionate with their SAL
aries.
III there Is any discrimination be-
tween men and women at all on the
ground that many young unmarried
women have no responsibilities OF home
support we are at once brought up
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women exactly alike. and did not hesi-
tate to call this their policy. But even
where wages had been standardized in
classes. irrespective Of sex. II was add
mitted that most Of the women in those
classes were drawing minimum alaries.
and that most OF the maXimums went to
men.
Averaging up the opinions given.
there seem to be three chief reasons why
there Is no such thing as economic or
industrial equality to-day One reason
is the distrust and prejudice Of the pub
lie against accepting woman as final
authority about anything except how TO
bring up babies. and even there they re-
fer to men doctors. Another reason Is
inherent in the woman herself. she
lacks the punch. AS the high salaried
woman secretary of big insurance
companys vice-president put it:
THE trouble is that women will look
up. The men look down.
Ranking even higher in importance Is
another reason which is inherent In
woman. When a man marrles he set
ties down and becomes all the more
valuable to his firm. When a woman
marries she usually leaves her work TO
retire into her home. Speaking In very
broad averages, the more attractive and
capable a woman Is the more likely she
Is to convince some man that he cannot
live without her, and to be In her turn
convinced.
The experience OF losing valuable
women executives and secretaries, just
as they are beginning to repay In efiic-
ency their long period of training, Is
not only an actual financial loss to an
establishment but ii also has n more
insidious result. Ii makes an employer
think twice before he selects another
woman for the expensive and tedious
process OF training. Given man and
a woman of about equal ability for pro-
motion to a certain responsible position
the employer saddened by experience Is
likely To play safe and choose the man.
Then 1t Is declared that women are
loss dependable in an emergency. They
cannot stand the same degree of irregu-
lar hours. AS one employer put II, their
breaking point is lower than that OF
men"
Woman's work IL still more special
tied than that Of men, and this TOO Is
probably a hndrance to her advance
ment
The Equitable Life Assurance Society
has applied scientific research and
analysis to the problem OF the stand
ardizatlon of the wages Of men and
women. compiling statistics as to the
comparative efficiency of men and
women under various conditions in
every grade Of work. and thereby OBJ
tanning conclusions as to the most
efficient methods OF organization. The
third vice president Of the society, Leon
nx~ Vtsher has charge of this work.
The policy is to assign maximum and
minimum salaries to every grade or
work and pay these salaries irrespective
Of sex To the ncumbents.
Speaking of the society's policy in
regard to women Frederick p. Pitzer.
super!ntendent OF the bureau Of en-
ployment. said:
women give the best results -
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Accounts Opened and Terms to Suit.
Fulton St. and DeKalb Ave.

ASIDE from the actual salary think
all benefits and profit sharing should be
awarded to all employees with absolute
impartiality."
While not employing many women. as
president OF the Third Avenue Railway
+. w. whitridge has had the typical ex-
periences of the modern business man
with private secretaries and Office force
and from them has drawn his conclu-
s.ons.
mo; business. but q splc ndid pyro-
technical display" he calls NJ Ford's
distribution of $4,000 900. and in regard
to the exclusion OF women from tie dis
trlbution, says:
1T would be as unjust not u include
women In the distribution OF profits,
where they are employed in any num-
Der. as to exclude the short men or the
red haired men.
Women have OF course quite a differ
ont temperament from men. You might
say that they have more temperament,
whatever that is. They are more intel
llgent and quicker. Although / have
had little experience with women en-
ployees except as secretaries and in
clerical positions. think that I had
rather deal with a group Of women
than Of men. ! think that they would
he more reasonable and ca sier To handle
Women are Handicapped by the fact
that marriage with them practically
means taking up another occupation.
which crowds out their former work.
The employer suffers by this in that
he must lose his trained women on
whom he has learned to depend. as soon
az they marry. whereas. when a man
marres It only makes him steadier
and more reliable. However. | should
no, consider this any more serious han
dicap to women than the fact that men
are always liable to change their posi-
tons for a better offer elsewhere or for
other reasons.
There may be small number Of
married women to-day who keep on
with their work after marriage, but
IN the great mass OF the people. the
prole,ariat-whose name suggests their
function-the child bearers. the object
, Of marriage will probably continue for
some time to he the propagation of the
race. With them, when a woman mar
ries. she takes Il new job, and her direct
connection with industry ceases.
Her indirect influence Is still felt.
however. have recently ARRANGED that
every employee Of my company may
insure his life with the Travellers In
surance Company for $1,000 at cost
OF 81 year. or az I put IL TO the men.
II amounts 10 three beers a week
zone woman told NE that she was
the mother OF Ave children. and tina,
Pat didn't think ne would take the in
surance. hut that she would, and she
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rs II possible to include women in
comprehensive industrial schemes
i on the same basis as men?
Does the fact that there are
about 100000 working women in the
United States mean that their employers
can treat them like 100000 men?
What. II any. influence do certain
traits, mental. physical and tempera-
mental, and the possibility Of her mar
riage. just as she becomes valuable to
her employer, have on woman's chances
for promotion and equal pay?
Does girl working for pin money
and living at home deserve the same
share OF profit distribution, benefits and
pensions as the man who is supporting
a family?
These are some Of the questions sug-
gested and revived by the recent news
that Henry Ford. the Detroit automo-
bile manufacturer, had failed to include
his women employees as a class in his
$4,000. 900 profit sharing plan. He dis
missed the matter easily when ques-
toned about 1t:
well, We expect the women to get
married and let the men take care Of
them." he replied when a reporter for
TIE SrN asked him why ne had dis
eliminated against women.
In order to get light on the subject
officials Of about twenty large busi-
nesses were asked the questions which
begin this article. Some said frankly:
I'VE don't know just where we do
stand In regard to women. and We don't
want to commit ourselves"
One clothing house took up the matter
OF giving an interview at a directors
meeting. and decided that silence was
golden. Another factory referred the
matter to its legal department. where a
gray haired lawyer gave cautious
statement explaining that as they EN-
ployed about 5000 women in a total of
1000 employees. anything we might
say on the subject might be presumed to
have significance. and-ahem-we
have not given the subject sufficient
consideration to feel free to talk author
itatively."
Many employers were anxious to he
ueve that they treated their men and
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partly because We nave a sense Of re-
lying on men.
II think that there are very few
places where women get equal pay with
men. They cannot command il. If the
time ever comes when women are able
10 ask equal pay they will find them
selves out of work. for ON the same
salary | think employers would prefer
u man TO a woman every time
Women have certain qualities in
which they are superior to men I'M
douotedly. They are more regular,
more quiet, they mind their own busi-
ness better. They don't stand around
in the halls, talking and smoking
cigarettes and killing time generally
They don't soldier as much as men.
though there are some girls who have
the trick.
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operating machines and doing the I'M
skilled work. we have To employ men as
foremen TO produce results. Men have
a certain strong arm method OF driving
things and making things happen which
women lack. and ! think II Is good
thing that women should lack it. in the
office force it Is rather q matter of prec-
edent to have men in charge Of things,
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
H|BBERD AND ELMER
! PLAY IN GOLF FINAL
Elimination Of Dill by Elmer
Ends Preliminaries for the
Presidents Cup.

Hibberd and Elmer will play in the
finals In the match, preliminary to the
Presidents cup tournament at the
Country Club Dill was eliminated
from the contest Friday afternoon
when he was defeated by Elmer, up
and to play.
The contest between Elmer and
Hibberd promises to be a close one as
both men are playing excellent golf
and hold the two lowest scores made
on the course this year. Elmer made
the nine holes in 38 strokes early in
the playing and Hibberd broke the
record for the course Tuesday by max.
ing it in SO. DOGGY for the course is
43 and the score made by Hibberd is
3 strokes below par.
Interest Is Keen.
The final match between Elmer and
Hibberd will be played the first OF
next week, according to a statement
made by Hibberd today. Interest in
the matches has been so keen, partic
ularly during the final stages of the
contest that it is expected a large gal
lery will follow, the players around
the course. 1t is anticipated by those
who have been watching the playing
of the two men, that the winner will
perhaps gain his victory by only one
or two strokes.
Since Hibberd appears to be the
stronger of the two in making low
medal scores, Elmer will play his
game with the aim of distributing his
low stroke holes to the end that he
may win from his opponent in spite
of slightly larger medal score. AS
is the case in a closely matched con
test, the real fight comes on the ap
proaches and in the putting on the
green's. Because of his greater exper
fence, it is believed that Hibberd has
the best of his opponent in this phase
of the play and consequently his
chances for victory are slightly
greater.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
SHIFT KN|SELy
TO 0UTF|ELD.
IN NEXT GAME
Richmond Managers Make
Change in Lineup for Hard
Battle Against Long and
Ohio Team.

With the exception of Meter. Hlcn-
mond will present its regular hhe-up
to meet Denison, O., tomorro" alter
noon at Athletic park. knlsely mas
been shifted to right field and roster
who has been playing third base 1or
the Easthaven S. A. l.. team Will De
on the bench and will be given a try
out sometime during the game.
The game promises to be a flsnt
from start to finish for 1t is game
between the claimants Of the champ
ionship of eastern Indiana and eastern
Ohio. Chick" Long will be on the
mound for the Ohio men ana Voroeh'
burg will meet him for the locals
Long Makes Record.
Long has made wonderful record
for the Denison team this summer,
having won six out of eight games
played. Last year he pitched for them
all season and made good record
He still holds his contract with the
Decatur team but Manager Reed, OF
Decature, does not want to use MIN
until the beginning of next season.
1t was for this reason that he was per-
mitted to play with Richmond several
games this season.
The following is the lineup to be
used tomorrow:
Denison-J. Long, CT; Andrews, If;
d. Long, ID; Cummings, RI; McClel-
land, 2b: Hummer, 3b; Tullis, IS;
Ross, C: Dunlap, c; r. Long, p; Quail
ley, p; Barnhart, p.
Richmond-Knisely,r IF; Merkle, CT;
Novack, c; Popkins, lib: BAIL, II; Len
ninger, 3b; Schlenker, 2b; Gushing,
SIS; Vordenburg, p; o. Foster.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
BRINGS LIEN SUIT
Cambridge Man Takes Court
Action.

Suit to collect on a mechanics lien
overdue thirty days, the principal of
which is $3.50 and another to collect
on lien of $40 was filed in circuit
court by Timothy J. Cornell of Cam
bridge City against Helen NJ and Vir-
gil Outland. The plaintiff demands $40
on one lien and $25 on the other
Alveranus J. Needham, guardian of
Mary A. Boyd, an infirm person of
Dublin, filed suit in circuit court to col
lect $50. principal, interest and attor-
ney's fees on $50 note made by Sa-
rah Smith to Mary Boyd in 1906
Suit for partition of property and for
quiet title was filed by Clara A. Kelly
and others against Mary Morse and
others. The plaintiff asks that the de-
PENDANTS claim on small piece of
property in Boston Heights be declar-
ed null and void
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
SUNDAY SERVICES

NEW PARIS, Ohio, August 22.-The
order of worship in the New Paris
churches is as follows:
Christian-H. r. Bixel, pastor. Bible
school, $3.50 a. M, w. p. Mills, supt
Sermon, 1920, by pastor. Theme,
Fellowship with God and Christ
Y. P. S. C. E., $50 p. m. Sermon at
1880 by pastor. Theme, "Christ's Life
and Teachings Are Consistent"
Methodist-Rev. f. Kneisley, pastor
Sunday school, 9:15 a. M, Walter Wag.
goner, superintendent. Sermon al
10: 80 by the pastor. Subject, "Christs
Use and @Defensee of the Sabbath
Epworth League at GAS p. m, Mrs. Ida
L. Bohn, leader.
Presbyterian-Sund school, 81
a. m, Arch r. Raney, superintendent
Blues are ahead in the Red and Blue
contest and the attendance has in
creased.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
BRAKE BEAM RIDERS
shy At PEhhSY Line
I. E. Burns, Railroad Detec-
tive, Says Few Buns Make
This City.

In spite OF the reports that q number
of men have "bummed" into Richmond
from other cities, lured by reports
that Richmond factories cannot Sc
cure enough men, /. E. Burns, private
detective of the Richmond division,
Pennsylvania railroad, declares there
are no more "panhandlers" now than
at any other time.
As the Pennsylvania railroad is re-
garded as the biggest risk for buns,
brake-beam riders and train hoppers
are few through this city. Few men
who are old at the game use the rail
road for travelling because of the
severe treatment which is given them
on detection.
Mr. Burns found a young boy riding
a train a few weeks ago. He removed
him from the blind baggage of a fast
passenger The boy seemed honest
and said he would work and settle
down if he were given chance. Mr.
Burns secured work for him at fac.
tory here. The boy is still working
and is regarded as a promising ap'
prentice in the trade he is learning.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
PROMOTES WOMAN
TO OvtRMAN'S JOB
Robbins. Appoints Mrs. o. d.
Meier Chief Clerk of City
Light Plant.

Mayor Robbins announced today
that Mrs. o. D. Meier, who for several
years has been assistant to the chief
clerk of the municipal lighting plant,
had been appointed chief clerk to sue.
coed Bert Overman who resigned this
week to accept employment with the
Light, Heat and Power company. Ray.
mond Jarrett, who has been employed
as a clerk at the city plant is ap.
pointed to the position of assistant to
the chief clerk. Both Mrs. Meier and
Jarrett are promoted with increases in
salary.
Mrs. Meier is thoroughly familiar
with the city plant business and will
be thoroughly competent to fill her
new position. BY the two promotions
a vacancy is created in the office staff
of the plant but no appointment has
yet been made.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
SERV|ANS SMASH
AUSTR|ANS ADVANCE
$4,000 Killed in Fierce Fight
on River Drina, According
to Report.
TBY LEASED WlRE.1

ROME, Aug 22.-An entire regi-
Of Austrians was annihilated in a
three-day battle between Austrians
and Servians on the river Drina, ac-
cording to a telegram from Nish to
the Tribuna. The Austrians are said
to have been turned into valley sur
rounded by mountains and there en-
veloped and massacred. The bodies
were thrown into the Save to be car
RED by the current past the Austrian
concentration camp.
The same newspaper denies reports
of a mutiny on Russian warship at
Sebastopol
The Messagero prints telegram
from Nish saying that the advance of
the Servians continues unchecked.
Two corps of Austrian engineers were
captured near Belgrade.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
WELLER MAKES'
ROAD PROTEST
Enemy of Gravel Highways
Files Petition Against Pro
posed Boston Pike.

John Weller. 1903 Main street. q real
estate owner who has declared his in
tention Of fighting all three-mile road
improvement petitions. notified Aud
ftor Bowman he would file before the
office closed tonight a remonstrance
against the Boston pike improvement
with more than 500 signatures at
tached.
Although Mr.. Weller has until Aug.
ust 20 to file the remonstrance, he be-
lieves he has more than enough
names. The petition against which
the remonstrance is directed has 154
names.
1t is probable that the work of Sc
curing a remonstrance against the
petition of Fairview residents for
three-mile road improvements will be-
gin next week. The petition has not
been filed, but 1t is of such great
strength that it probably will not be
overcome. 1t is said that a thousand
names are attached now and the mem.
bers of the Fairview Improvement
association are still circulating the pa
perS. u
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
.MASONS PICK CITY
Colored Lodge Accepts Rich
mOnd Invitation.

The invitation of Richmond mem
bers of Quinn lodge No. 20, F. A. M,
colored, to entertain the next conven.
ton of colored Masons of Indiana was
accepted at the convention which
closed last night at New Albany. The
convention will take place here in
August, 1915.
James Ferguson, a past master of
the Quinn lodge was elected to the Of
flee of grand marshal. Mr. Ferguson
was one of the charter members of
the Richmond organization and he has
held many offices in this city.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22

.R|T TENHOUSE comes
FOR SUNDAY SPEECH

Sunday Events.
$3.50 q. m.-Sunday School, Superin-
tendent p. T. Mcclellan.
1890 a. m.-Rev. d. F. Rittenhouse,
Sermon Lecture.
1880 p. m.-Runge's Orchestra.
1880 p. m.-Charles Stelzle, Social
Engineer, "A Square Deal"
$3.50 p. m.-Brahm's Quartet.
$50 p. m.-Runges Orchestra.
1880 p. m.-Rev. D. F. Rittenhouse
THE Twentieth Century Amer.
ican." ssr
Mondays Program.
1890 a. m.-Supt. J. T. Giles, Social
izing the Schools"
HOO a. m.-Dr. w F. Book, Deputy
State Superintendent, What Is
Expected From the Public
Schools in the Subjects of Ag
riculture and Domestic Science
During the Coming School
Year."
1870 p. m.-Dr. Charles C. Ellis, 1.-THE
Business of the Public Schools.
$3.50 p. m.-Beulah Buck Quartet, con
cert.
700 p. m.-Beulah Buck Qaurtet.
500 p. m.-Margaret Stahl, "Strong
heart"
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
DEMOCRATS FORM
CENTRAL BOARD

EATON, O., Aug. 22.-Members of
the Preble county Democratic central
committee met Friday in Eaton and
organized for the fall campaign by
the selection of Earl H. Irwin chair
man. The executive committee will
meet later to select chairman. Mem
bers of the county committee follow:
Gratis township, Jesse Ely; Twin, Ed
Ozias; Lanier, H. H. Unger: Israel, R.
J. Simpson; Somers, C. M. Eikenberry;
Casper, Gus Schenck; jefferson, Ollie
Hill; Dixon, John Cahill; Harrison,
Ernest McGriff; Monroe, T. c. Brad
dock
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
TO HOLD INQUEST.
ON ACTOR KRICK

Eugene Krick, an actor, was remov-
ed to his home. 1906 Sheridan street,
by the police yesterday for safe keep
ing. 1t is believed he is insane and an
inquest will be ordered Krick has
been having trouble with members of
his family and has been quite violent.
Yesterday a man called at the home
to inquire where a certain family lived.
krlck answered the call and promptly
struck the caller in the eye. The po-
lice were then summoned.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
GOLD STAYS ABOARD
AMERICAN CRUISER
Thy LEASED WIRE.1

PARIS, Aug. 22.-It was stated to-
gold that is aboard the United States
cruiser Tennessee and the battleship
North Carolina, will be kept aboard the
warships, and drawn upon as needed,
priation and distributing from Paris.
Major Charles A. Hedskin, U. S. A.,
who came from Genoa with an appeal
for 100000 needed for the stranded
Americans in that city, probably will
start back to Italy today with the
money.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
AGED PEDESTRIAN
KEEPS UP PACE
TBY LEASED WIRE,7

CHICAGO, Aug 22.-Dan O'Leary
the aged pedestrian, continued his
1000 mile walk today, having travelled
1856 miles in as many hours up to a.
m. Many persons join the famous
walker in his jaunts each hour. A quar-
tet of pedestrians who are on hike of
$4,000 miles from New York around
the border of the United States, thence
back to New York, accompanied o.
Leary a mile yesterday. The visiting
travellers were William Ferreri, Italo
O. Mantani, Frank De Luca and Brano
j. Manor
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
WAR SCARE FAILS
TO STIR PATRIOTS

War in Europe does not increase pa
triotism or elevate fighting spirit in
this country. according to returns from
the office Of the recruiting officer
here.
Corporal Abbott stated today there
was little out Of the ordinary in his Of
flee resulting from the war. A few
foreigners OF the illiterate class have
applied for enlistment but have been
refused because Of their lack of educa-
don.
The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1914-08-22
REPORTS VICTORY
WON BY GERMANS
Thy LEASED WIRE.1

WASHINGTON, Aug. 22.-German
Charde DAffaires Won Reimsausen to-
day announced that he had received an
official message from Berlin stating
that the Germans had won "magnifi-
cent victory" in battle between Metz
and the Vosges mountains The charge
said he had no other details.