Arizona republican., 1914-04-09
ULSTER FIGHT WILL NOT LEAD
 ID CIVIL VAR
Bill Amending and Killing Home Rule Measure Loses By Dwindling Ma jority; Big Guns Trained On Hot Debate
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 LONDON. April S.-By a majority Of eighty, an amendment for the re- jection of the home rnle bill was le- feeted in the house of commons. Without division the Lill wls given for {. third time it's second reading in the house. Announcement of the opposition thd,i for the ministerlalisis. the opposition interpreting them as gratifying proof Of a dwindling gov- ernment majority.
 But the diminution was accounted for to some extent by abstention from voting of the OBrienites. The speeches were generally more concili- atory in tone than those which mark ed the bills earlier passages. John E. Redmond, the nationalist leader. who opened the debate, again held out the olive branch to Ulster in a speech impressing in it's eloquence, but he insisted it was impossible for him and his colleagues to agree on the permanent exclusion of Ulster and to abandon in principle Ireland as a nation"
 Andrew Bonar Law, the opposition leader, although protesting in cer- tain passages of his speech to see hardly hope of a peaceful settlement and predicting civil war is certain if the government persisted in pushing the bill through, asserted he, and his colleagues, would gladly accept proposal for a renewal of conversa- tions with government leaders. but feared nothing would come of it. Law, said that the government was pushing the bill through under a sys- tenn which was virtually one cham Der government He recalled the phrase of Sir Edward Grey that sin gle chamber government meant dom- ination and disaster and said that the prophecy was being fulfilled. He himself had done his best to make it come true.
 At the same time," continued Law, the unionists are ready to make every reasonable sacrifice to avoid the calamity of civil strife There are only two ways whereby that can be averted; one is the ex- clusion of Ulster from the bill, the other an appeal to the people If the proposal is made for the renew al of the conversation between the leaders of the two parties as Sir Ed ward has suggested. the opposition will accept it, but we fear nothing will come of it while Redmond exer- cises the power to veto any pro- pcsals put forward by the opposi- tion.''
 In the opinion of the speaker the situation was never more replete' wlth danger than at the present time If the government chooses, it has the power to ruin Ulster, but it would never succeed in compelling the Ulster forces. against their will British parliament.
 Augustine Birrell, chief secretary for Ireland. closed the debate. He al gued that civil war was impossible lie was amazed at the patience dis played by the Catholics and nation- alists in Ulster under great provoca- tfon. It showed, he said, that there was no need of civil war to effect a settlement of the question. Ulster nut be won; her opposition, over come; but it could not be done by force, hence the government pro nosals.
 The second reading of the home rule bill carried the first time bv majority of l01, the second time by a majority of 9S Tonight eight OBrienites abstained from voting and two liberals voted against the government. One nationalist was absent through illness. Three labor ties were also absent, and Charles r. c. Mastman, who had previously voted as member of the govern ment, lost his seat in the election for Bethnal Green last February
 Sir Edward Grey's departure from London has no political significance He is merely taking a holiday ar ranged for some time ago