The Birmingham age-herald., 1914-03-13
Afternoon Session


 to fight chickens and that he shot a he heard Oakley had been acquitted. 1 Alex Latham of Bibb county said | Oakley's character was regarded as | good
 John B. Reid of Birmingham said Oakleys character for honesty and truthfulness was, good. He said on cross examination he had heard that l Oakley was a chicken fighter. | Oakley was recalled to the stand and Captain White continued his cross-ex- animation. He denied he had told MT. ! Greer he had made a mistake in or dering 900 dozen pairs of convict stripes; that the purchase from Bern ard Frank was made to meet an emer- gency, and said he did not know at | that time that such goods were made at the states cotton mill at Speigners. He ordered the goods shipped back to | Frank and in a converse tion with | Frank, February 1, 1913, oakley told him he wanted a settlement. | / Frank pleaded that he was hard up. | ibut would settle later The defendant said Frank did not tell him he offered l a check to Lacy, and said no one said anything in his presence about the ac- count being settled in cash. Oakley de- ! nied that he had instructed Frank to tray Lacy $2207.02 in cash.
 Oakley Tells of Conversation | Oakley related conversation he had had with Frank in Alex Pitts room at the Exchange hotel. Defendant said | Frank told him he had Lacy's receipt | for $2207.02 and asked if it were good. | Oakley replied in the affirmative Frank next spoke of giving damaging testi- mony against Oakley, according to de fendant Oakley said he did not know what testimony Frank had in mind. Continuing his story about the Frank transaction. oakley said he told Frank | that he did not owe him any money, i ntimating that he informed Frank that | he was not afraid of anything he might say.
 Again questioned as to what disposi- | ton he made of the money he got from the state. Oakley again said that he could not recall. The defendant said he owed | the Bfbb county bank about SS000 or $900C at the time he got the money from Dr | Grove, and said he owed his brother several thousand dollars. Oakley alsC owed the First National Bank of Br- mingham about $30,000. In recalling other | debts, he said he owed his wife $4000 or | S500O.
 Oakley testified that all of his property | was encumbered, heavy mortgages having | been placed on all of his real estate anl personal property.
 | Captain White brought out the fact that | just prior to Lacy's flight Oakley gave ! his brother a mortgage on some prop | erty to secure a debt that had been run ming more than five years. Oakley had | also given Abraham Bros, mule dealers 1 of Montgomery. a mortgage to secure ar | indebtedness of about 5000. This mort gagged was given in January. 1913 l Oakley was shown the two checks, ons on the First National Bank of Birming- ham for s6s, 449.1S and the other on the | American Trust and Savings bank of Bir- mingham for s41 ,550 ,S2, which Lacy gave to Trawick on the day of his flight The defendant said he had signed the | checks either in the governors office | or in his office. Oakley was asked if he l had not signed these checks after having l sworn to Examiner Brooks that Lacy had the bank books. Witness could not | recall.
 Oakley was asked if he had not indorsed some other papers in the governors office at the time he indorsed the two bogus checks.
 Captain White asked Oakley if he had seen Lacy last in the governors office oi in his office. Said he could not recall ! Oakley said that Charles l.. Harold
 president of the Montgomery Savings | bank. had not said anything to him about paving Lacy money in cash.
 | :Mr. Harold asked me if he were cor rectly informed by Lacy that all of the departments money had to be drawr out. told him yes but said nothing to him. about a cash payment
 Oakley further said that he had too MT. Harold nothing about a blank check | which he would give to Lacy.
 Captain White concluded his gruelline cross-examination of 4:4O o'clock this aft ernoon. after having questioned Oakley the greater part of the day.
 On redirect examination Oakley sait he was conscious while using the states money that he had sufficient funds r bank to meet all overdrafts.
 Captain White asked if he did not mort gage some of his property before the state could levy an attachment on it. He said he did not know. E
 The concluding question was by MT Hill:
 You have not thing in the worl6 ex. cept the clothes on your back ha ave you 1 Mir. Oakley"
 Not thing" was the answer.
 Grove Follows Oakley
 Dr. c. B. Grove of Birmingham followed | Oakley on the stand. He testified that he l had known Oakley for 30 years. He said he had paid him O00O in cash in May oi June, 1911. He said Oakley had given | this money to Lacy in his presence and | could not recall whether Oakley had taken receipt. He thought Oakley had taken out small amount of this money l On cross examination he testified that he l had known Oakley intimately, and said the defendant was at one time witness for him. tilt occurred between Cap. tain White and Dr. Grove after the latter had been on the stand few minutes. Ir reply to question Dr. Grove said: 1 Captain, I have known MT. Oakley 3t | years or more and l esteem him Eigf class and honorable gentleman. I have been more intimate with him than could possibly be with you.''
 You could not be intimate with me sir,' said Captain White
 At this point the court interrupted the colloquy. He was questioned as to how he happened to have so much money or hand. He said he had been accommodating it for sometime. Several times during the course of his examination the cour' had to rap for order. Dr. Grove made il very evident that he resented certain questions asked him by Captain White.
 Dr. Grove was asked if he did no have several suits against him while hs had $30.0C0 in bank
 Captain, I expect that at one time l had as many one half million dollar. worth of law suits against mel
 Dr.. Grove admitted that he did have