The Union times. [volume] (Union, S.C.) 1894-1918, 1914-05-08
In Presence of Judge Hill, Solicitor Secures
Detailed Story of Detectives Work
In the Frank Case
No Further Evidence in His Possession---Fu Story
of Solicitor Dorseys Long Cross-Exami-
nation is Given Below
ATLANTA Journal.)

or Mary BnaSan murueG CASE, Ioi
more than an hour Saturday morn
ing.
The solicitor demonstrated by his
questions that he has closely followed
the movements of the detective both
in Atlanta and the various other
cities which he has visited since he
became identified with the case.
The examination was made In order
that the detectives testimony might
be made a part of the record in the
extraordinary motion for new trlal
for Frank.
The solicitor brought out the fact
that every bit of evidence which has
been discovered by Burns or ms
agents is either now a part of the
record or is in the hands of the at
torneys for the defense.
The solicitor developed that Burns
has no further evidence, either ply
sical documentary, or in the form
of testimony of witnesses.
In answer to question Burns stat
ed that so far as he knows the de-
Tense has no witnesses, whose teStl-
mony has not been injected into the
case.
He secured the admission that
Burns has discovered proof of no
crime committed by Conley.
Claims He Was Hampered.
By cross-eXamination Attorney
Reuben r. Arnold. of the defense.
brought out the statement from the
detective that he has been blocked
and hampered in his work here in a
surprising manner. On redirect ex-
animation Mr.. Burns cited the Mon
teen Stover and the Conley incidents
as "the most outrageous examples of
the manner in which his work had
been hampered."
When Mr.. Arnold was asking the
witness about the manner in which
his work had been hampered, Judge
Hill Interrupted with this state
ment: 81 am not going to allow
this witness to answer any gu .stion
which reflects upon the verdict of the
jury or the decision of the supreme
court of Georgia"
Dan S. Lehon, Burns agent, was
subpoenaed to appear before Judge
Hill but his examination was de-
ferred until Monday.
A detailed report of the exan,ina-
tion of Detective Burns follows:
Mr.. Burns arrived in court about
five minutes late. He was accom-
panied Dy AlIOItleN ISuDcH H.. al
mold of the Frank defense.
Mr. Arnold addressed the court.
1--WE shall ask, your honor, that
regular form prescribed by the code
in other words, that the questions
be submitted in writing"
Judge Hill overruled the motion.
Mr.. Burns was directed to take the
stand Solicitor Dorsey swore him,
Mr.. Burns standing. The solicitor
questioned him.
@. You are employed to investigate
the murder of Mary Phagan, are you
not? A. | am.
Q. By whom? A. I was first en-
ployed by Leonard and Herbert Haas.
Q. Attorneys for Frank? A. Yes.
AS to Burns Pay.
Q. You have been paid some mon
ey, and some more is still due you?
A. Yes.
@. Is this conditional on your find
@. Is there a contract in writing.
for your services? A. Yes.
Q. What is the difference in the
event Frank is liberated through your
efforts? A. No difference.
q. You have seen Frank in the Jail
and conferred with him frequently?
A. Yes.
@. After you had talked with him
a short time, you were quoted in the
papers as saying that he was not a
pervert. Were you quoted correctly?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you profess to be able by
talking to man a short while to tell
he is pervert? A. No, but
feel that by talking to him / can
form definite conclusion.
Q. How do you tell that a man is
not a pervert? Collection by Mr..
Arnold overruled). A. / am some
what of a student of human nature.
AS | work with criminal classes, u
come in contact with
them.
@. You consider your opinion in thc
matter is trustworthy and accurate?
A. do.
Q. Did you have any conversation
with jim Conley before you came
to the conclusion that he is a pervert =.
A. No.
"COnley a Pervert."
q. Then in his case you substituted
a less trustworthy method? A. Af- |
ter reading the letters that Conley
wrote, and after examining the gar
ments of Mary Phagan, I decided
definitely that Conley is a pervert.
z. How do you know he wrote the
letters? A. compared them with
The socalled murder notes.
Q. Are you a handwriting expert,
too? A. No, but there are so many
similar characteristics, there is no
the letters.