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serve us to any advantage several
thousand miles away
we developed at the war College what
may turn out to be the ultimate type OF
submarine. a 1000 ton craft OF rs knots
that would be used to attack battleshlps.
This was theoretical. OF course, but In
working out the war games OF the board
the battleshlps were supposed to be very
much afraid OF this big submarine. We
will move forward to bigger submarines
rather than to smaller ones
as there any way to defend our coast
except through control OF the sea-" asked
Representative wtherspoon OF Missis-
sippi.
Not against a military nation with
large army
The witness repeated that submarines
could not control the sea as long as other
nations had battleshlps. lie gave his
dea of the battleshp OF the future.
1T will shed practically all OF its armor.
II will have larger and more numerous
guns. be OF great speed and capable or
holding of the enemy at great distances
As Commander Stirling was about 10
leave the Eand he was questioned by
| Representative Roberts OF Massachusetts
| concerning the report that the witness
| submitted a report on the condition OF
| the Atlantic fiotila. Mr.. Roberts's ques-
| tons indicated that he had information
| that Strings report was extremely crfi-
| clal Of the Departments policy IN dealing
with submarines.
| Mr.. Roberts asked Commander Stirling
| II he had received reply from the De-
partment. 1t was disclosed that ;he letter
| TO Commander Stirling amounted practi-
| cally to a reprimand. although the witness
| said he did not so regard II, nor did he
| look upon II as censure. Mr. Roberts
| a sked for the dates OF these communica-
| Al. I'd not Va a
gett Of the committee TO call upon the
| Department for their production. Chair
man Padgett assented.
Representative Hobson sprang a rcal
surprise on the committee AT tn" morning
session. lie moved that eN-rrcsidcnt
Roosevelt, be called to testify concerning
the national defence. Mr. Hobson said
| that Mr.. Roosevelt was fully informed
! and that he could not doubt cnlghtcn the
| committee.
Chairman Padgett was clustered over
the motion. When the name Roosevelt
| was mentioned Mr.. padrett acted as n
| his anatomy had collidcd with tack.
Rising out OF his chair he exclaimed
Invite ex-Pr. sd,ent Roosevelt. What
for"
"He was an Assistant Secretary ~ the
| Navy and has intimate knowledge Of this
subject. He has always been Interested in
military and naval subjects and I think
Hobson.
II think that motion ought to be with
drawn" declared Mr.. Padgett. with great
ear nestness. Mr.. IIobson's motion stirred
the committee greatly. II was dccid d
that the question should 40 over until
Tomorrow.
War With Japan in May last year Was
avoided only because Japan believed the
United States was prepared soon Ia give
up the Philippine Islands, Representativ"
Hobson declared Explaining his state
ment Of yesterday that the United States
was preparing for a two year siege of Cor
regdor Island In the Philippines In May,
1913 Hobson said
at is true that our gunners. expecting
! japanese attack, slept by their guns
when the California land law troubles
were at their height. It is further true
that We had 10000 tons OF provisions
quickly assembled there"
He added that preparations We're made
10 move the Philippine capital to the is
| land in case of trouble.
II believe that war with Japan was
avoided" he said. only because of Japdns
hope that We were soon going to give M
the islands and Japan would obtain pos
session of them in some way.
II may also state that know when tho
| California school segregation was aEitated
several years previously Japan had its
eyes on the Philippines to such an extent
that they had mapped ont Ia advance n
form of government for the islands. The
public does not know how near we were u
war on these occasions.
The japanese were as alert as We were
The situation was very critical"
In sharp letter In which he intmat q
that Representative Gardner is trying To
play politics Chairman PadGett declined
10 grant Mr.. Gardeners request that he b,
permitted to question witnesses that ap-
pear before the committee relative to the
national defences. Mi Gardner wanted
Rear Admirals Wainwright. Winslow and
Bronson called, but Mr., Padgett refused