Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1914-07-24
New Points of View of Con-
fIict Between Capital and
Labor Expressed in Hearing
Before Commission.
'INSuLL OPPOSED TO
MUNICIPAL OWNERSHIP
Woman Settlement Worker Be-
IieveS Improved Standard of
Living Is Causing Move of
Social Discomfort.

Nv "oNNthc JOURNAL SPECIAL tEASGo WiRul
Chicago, July 23.--New points Of
view oi the conflict between capital
and labor were revealed TO-DAY TO the
United states industrial commission
here by Samuel insult. traction mag
nate and manager Of many public
utilities John Fitzpatrick president
of the Chicago Federation of Labor.
5. +. Deibler, professor of economics
in Northwestern University and Mary
Mcdowell. head Of the University Of
Chicago settlement.
Mr insult declared that collective
bargaining is only for the man OF
ordinary ability. believed labor unions
should have no part in public utili-
ties corporations denied that graft
In the sale of public franchises has
existed and said that publicly owned
utilities could never give as good SER
vice as those privately owned and
operated.
Collective bargaining Is better in
some cases" he said. MY own COM
panies use both the collective and
individual systems Of treating With
the men.
Collective Rareaining Unnecessary.
I'm my own career ] have never
needed collective bargaining. be-
gan at the bottom. working for as
low a wage as any immigrant who
ever came to these shores. The men
who achieve the big things ia any
business do not need collective bar
gaining.
In strikes, Mr. insult said the pub
lie would be the sufferer if the utlli-
ties Were manned by only union
men, The ideal relations between en-
ftln fnfInH he
said. when employees are urged 10 be-
come propretors and take stock in
tetsfs in the concerns for which they
work
The improved standard of living is
causing a great move Of social dis
content, according to Miss Mcdowell
who based her opinions of Industrial
unrest on years of contact with men
at the stock Yards Another factor
is the nature of work the ordinary
man does now she added. The hus
bands job does not pay enough to
support che family
Iasors Board of Trade.
For relief, Miss Mcdowell suggest
ed board of trade similar to the
board of trade in London THE sta
tistics compiled by our labor de-
paitments are laughed at. she said.
we are in the process now Of de-
termining what sort of an American
there shall be. The American stand
ard is one of the first things that the
learns about. There
should be short working day. The
right of leisure is one of the demands
of labor"
Professor Deibler said the central
ization of industry and the failure of
10 ,.tc Ia, t-nl tA rise
of prices were responsible for social
Conditions could be improved he
thought by better organization Of
state labor departments and legisla
tion for better arbitration in indus
trial disputes
Mr.. Fitzpatrick made charges of an 4
invisible government in Chicago by
the mercantile classes in times Of la
bor troubles His remedy for existing
Industrial unrest is the control of big
business which he declared had
grip on both industrial and public
affairs which it used for it's own az
The situation Of organized labor
$ good that Of unorganized labor is
oad,v said Mr.. Fitzpatrick
I'VE have policy of attempting
o guard our interests BY opposing /
egislaton which we think is harm
'ul In industrial conflicts we give
,nr efforts as body to bring about
IN understanding between the two
ides
Tel us of graft and violence
'harged against unions, said one of
he com missioners.
ANY semb1anee Of graft in unions ,
hould be eradicated' said Fitzpat~
lex employers are interested in |
some labor official. They |
ave only been able to charge graft .
o few Of tho labor officials Of our
ederation.
There is no organized violence on
ur side said Mr. Fitzpatrick. "ln /
he teamsters' strike they imported
lack gunner and outsiders and
araded them through the streets.