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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
OTHER HUNGARIANS
AGREE WITH HIM.
DON'T

Other Hungarians do not wholly
agree with Count Karolyi in what hs
considers is best for the Hungarian
people. Mr.. Konta said that he did no,
concur with him at all on the point OF
the complete separation Of Hungary
from Austria. II certainly admire
Count Karolyis aspiration 10 make
Hungary little America in the heart
Of Europe" said Mr.. Konta, and 10
establish a true democracy there. All
Hungarians in this country are with
him to a man, Of course. But do not
agree with him at all on the point Of
an Austro- Hungarian separation. Il is
true that Austria is constantly trying
TO break the spirit, while more or less
keeping the letter, Of the compounds
that gave Hungary her independence in
1867. Ii is true that the union Of the
two countries has involved and contin-
ues TO involve an unceasing struggle
against the entertainments Of the en-
pire upon the rights of the kingdom.
There IS constant interference and tam
pering with Hungarian home affairs
But one can keep on defending them.
insisting upon non-interference. without
going TO the length OF severing entirely
tho bond that binds the two countries
togeth as a unit in International ar
fairs. Separate, both Austria and Hun
gary would be weakened in their place
among the great powers, and never
more than to-day do they need all their
united strength to face the dangers and
intrigues that threaten them from with
out. 1t will be better for Hungary 10
continue I'm the Arrangement now tx
listing, while keeping up the fight 70
maintain the rights OF Hungary rs
completely independent state within the
union"
Count Karclyi is now delivering lect-
ures in Chicago, whence he expects 70
return I'm the course Of a few DAYS He
will then return 10 his native country
but Is coming back later I'm the season
when he will bring with him four other
members Of his family. He is exhorting
the Hungarians wherever he goes 10
write Informative letters to their rela-
tives in their native country. telling
them OF the democratic and liberal form
Of the United States government Il
which they know practically nothing,
and he is also seeking to acquire funds
for the cause Of the democratic move
ment in Hungary
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
EQUALITY OF TREATMENT FOR
ALL NATIONS.

There then arose the question OF
our rights at Panama. both general
and special. and particularly that Of
the equality Of treatment of the ship
ping Of all nations. which seemed 10
he guaranteed by the ay-Pauncefote
treaty. ! asked Colonel Hay plump
~ II the treaty meant what II APP
peared TO mean on its face. and
whether the phrase vessels OF all ma
tons was intended To include our
own shipping, or was to he inter
prcted as meaning "all other nations"
The Secretary smiled. half indul-
gently half quizzically, as he replied
IAN means all The treaty was not
ro long that We could not have made
room for the word other If We had
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

The Secretary, as have said, placed
mr. Injunction of secrecy upon those
parts of our conversation which have
recalled, but, acting upon my own dis
erection, I regarded that time as not
opportune for making any public use
of them. Now, however, that the SUD-
iects mentioned have been brought
acutely forward, a publication OF the
gist Of his remarks may not be UNI
timely or Improbable, as 1 CLEAN them
from my notebook and from memory
as nearly as possible in his own words
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
Ain Interview NTH
Secretary in Which
He Said All Ma
tons" Meant This
Nation as Well.
nv WILLIS FLETCHER JOHNSON.

rR Joseph II. Choate. in letter
wi 10 Senator MoCumber last
week, declared that in the ne
rotiations Of the Hay Pauncefote
treaty Of 1901 there was no question
that. az between the United States
and Great Britain. the canal should
be open 10 the citizens and subjects
u both on equal terms" and that
ii should similarly be open 10 the peo-
pie Of all other nations which should
comply with the prescribed rules Mr.
choate ought 10 know what was the
understanding on the subject IN Great
Britain. for he was az that time the
American Ambassador In that country,
and while the treaty was made at
Washington its terms were. OF course.
fully explained and appreciated in Lon
don
n h. possible also 10 cite tho very
highest authority on the same subject
namely. that II the two distinguished
diplomats who actually drafted and
signed the treaty in question. and who
II all men most certainly knew what
they meant b. its provisions and terms.
Those men we're John Hay, the Amer
ican Secretary ~ State, and Lord
vauncefJte. the BRUSH Ambassador ~
Washington Both are dead and II o.
bct known That either lett any written
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
OUR RIGHT TO ESTABLISH FOR
TlFlCATIONS.

There can be no protest against this
by any other power" / asked
Certainly not" he replied. There
are only two powers which have any
treaty rights in the matter. one is
Panama. and she has specifically
granted to us in the Canal Zone all
rights, power and authority which the
United States would possess and exer-
else if it were the sovereign Of the ter
ritory.' Obviously that includes the
right to build such Notifications as we
please. Moreover. the same treaty ex-
plicitly says that the United States
shall have the right. in its discretion to
establish fortifcations.' The other ma
ton with treaty rights is Great Brit
ain, and in our treaty with her there is
no word against the construction Of
Notifications. and i'm the absence Of any
such prohibition the right Of this coun-
try to construct fortiications is to be
taken for granted. The treaty simply
declares that the canal shall be free.
and shall never he blockaded or be the
scene of an act Of war. The mere ex-
istence Of forts would not make IL less
free and open, would not blockade a.
and would not constitute an act OF war,
any more than does the existence OF
the forts at Sandy Hook blockade New
York Harbor or make IL scene OF
warfare. But beyond all that" he
added, the matter has been directly
discussed between the two govern
mcnts. and Great Britain has In turn
recognized our right to establish forth
tications. Since these two countries are
content, there Is no other nation that
has any right TO contest the natter"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

CUNT KAROLYI talked with a
Tribune man at the st. Regis
- Hotel last week. 1t was no
easy task TO obtain an interview De-
cause the telephone was ringing Tor inc
count every three minutes. and pages
we're rushing I'D with written notes ana
verbal messages. 1t was hard, because
the count kept looking about 10 make
SIRE that he was not being rude 10 any
of the dignlfied gentlemen that accom-
panied him and because other callers
than the interviewer reminded MIN q
engagements TO which he had COM
mited himself, or that had been maze
for him by his secretary. IL was haru'
because the interview had been started
in the lobby. continued in the elevator
and concluded i'm the counts apart
ment. where his valet was pulling out
trunks and folding clothes. 1t was
hard. but II was also a pleasure lot
The count proved to be every bit OF
that forbidden newspaper adjective
interesting.
Count Karolyi is not Of the usual
tvpe Of foreign "nobleman,' with wasp
waist and mustachios with corsets ana
nonocle and with hair as false as his
clsims-not the conventional parlor
idol bv any means. but well groomed'
strongly built man Of forty, who looks
much younger. member of a family
that for 500 years has taken promi-
nent place in Hungarian history the
owner of a palace in Budapest as large
os Madison Square Garden. In spite OF
his wealth and the position in when
his birth has placed him he IS
gonuine champion Of the common peo-
nle He is a man with a purpose,
6phting leader Of the Opposition CT
minority party of Hungary lie mas
como to this country TO enlist in sup
mort of his cause the 100000 Hun
oariau- Americans whom he compares
10 the original Irish champions Of
Home Rule. who aided their cause ana
fought their opponents from New YORK
chicago and Boston. The counts mis-
sion here is distinctly serious, and he
has little time for the social Obligations
that have been laid upon him. He IS
k,oUn 70 number Of New Workers
and is universally popular. But in spite
Of this he allows nothing to interfere
with his chosen work.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
Count Who Leads Opposition Party
in His Native Land Tells OF
Plans to Free Hungary
Economically from the
Austrian Yoke.

foolhardiness. and does not know what
danger means. II is told OF him that
he once jumped off an express train
because Count Apponyi who was then
his political chief, had forgotten some
documents. and had 10 have them on
the following morning at Budapest.
whittier the two were travelling.
'In his wild days the count was also
a daring gambler His last exploit at
the gaming table took place at Monte
Carlo. He lost all the money he had
with him. returned to his hotel. took
what he had placed in safekeeping with
the clerk, staked 1t and lost. went out
again and pawned the historic shirt
studs he had inherited, lost what he
had raised on them, and then. meeting
an acquaintance, borrowed 800 francs,
and kept on playing with these until
he had won back all his losses and
10000 francs more.
But, as I have said, he has turned
serious now. What is more, he is ex-
Ceptionally well equipped for his career
His knowledge of our<political institu-
tions is remarkably deep and sound.
and when he speaks of bestowing them
upon his own people he knows fully
what that means. lie is tremendously
earnest about it, as all know who have
heard him speak here. His patriotism
is intense. There is almost a touch of
Quixoticism about his sincere convic-
ton that he will achieve what he has
set about to do, the introduction Of true
democracy in Hungary. He knows the
obstacles he will have TO combat and
the influences he will have to overcome.
but he feels sure of success"
The count himself spoke with conf
dence regarding the work he had come
to this country TO accomplish.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

memoranda on this subject. They
probably did not, for the reason that
the terms OF the treaty seemed TO them
so perfectly clear and explicit that
there could be no room or occasion for
controversy. But Colonel Hay did, on
one occasion, express himself upon the
matter, in the most direct and unequiv-
ocal way.
Three years after the making Of that
treaty, in November, 1904, it was my
privilege TO go to Panama in the corn
pany Of Mr.. Taft, who was then Sec
rotary Of War in President RoOsevelt's
Cabinet. On my way | stopped in
Washington for a time and had a con-
versation with Colonel Hay, partly 10
renew the friendly relations which had
existed between us years before, when
we had been colleagues in newspaper
work, and partly TO receive from him
for my own instruction in my travels
and, in the book writing which | ex-
pected 10 do as a result OF them, all
possible information concerning the at
titude and policy OF this government
toward the interesting problems which
were then being developed In Central
and South America.
l was not 'interyiewing" the secre-
tary for newspaper story. as he well
knew, and while he placed no injunc-
ton Of secrecy upon anything he said
he talked with the frankness of man to
man and friend TO friend leaving IT 10
my discretion 10 make such use Of his
remarks. or no use at all, as might
EoeTn filling
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

ncr i'm which Hungary has made good
citizens from the most unpromising
material For, when waits are left to
the care of the Hungarian State, they
seem TO prosper.
"Our system does not begin TO COM
pare with yours the count replied
I'm fact, I cannot express the admira-
ton 1 feel for your great organiza-
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
WHAT THE SENATE'S RATIFICA
TON MEANT.

There can be no doubt that the
Senate realized that in ratifying the
second treaty without such an amend
ment it was committing us to the prin-
ciple OF giving all friendly nations
equal privileges in the canal with our
selves. That is our Golden Rule
The matter Of defence of the canal
then came up. and ! remarked upon
Great Britain's lack of Notifications at
SueZ.
Yes said Colonel Hay in sub
stance, but neither the Isthmus OF
Suez nor the canal belongs To Great
Britain in any such sense as both the
Canal Zone and the isthmian canal be-
long to us. Diplomatically and logi-
cally there is no analogy between them.
and IL IL not profitable to try to draw
one"
But why" ! inquired, lis there any
moro need Of Notifications at Panama
than AT Sucz?"
Because" he replied, while n canal
which is internationally owned may
we'll bo left 10 international guardian
ship. u canal which ~ owned eAclu-
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

ton Of public schools. There Is noth-
ing like II in our COMMISSIONING
whatever. You may not realize that
~ Hungary had provided its people
with such political, economical ana
democratic institutions as those Tor
which we are now fighting, the emil
grafton from Hungary TO your coun-
try In the past years would never nave
assumed the enormous proportions 10
which il has grown, and our people
would never have sought TO exchange
the suffocating and sitting air which
compressed their mental and econom-
zeal development for this American
air of YOURS, so saturated with free
dom and the spirit of democracy.
ct was with sorrow that we saw our
countrymen leaving our land. This was
natural. But Hungary must look with
gratitude upon the United States. not
only because your republic gave them
that opportunity which was denied
them I'm their home, but, still further,
because when they have once absorbed
this spirit of democracy they will be
able TO foster a similar mental influence
i'm the motherland, which will eventual
" make out of Hungary little America
In Eastern Europe, with the same At
tractive power-though In smaller
scale-that the United States now ex-
ercises on the entire world.
with this explanation | may say
that the object Of my trip TO America
is 10 awaken in the hearts and minds
of Hungarian Americans realization
Of the power which they can exert in
shaping the affairs Of the mother coun-
try along the lines Of characterization
for which my party is working and
with which these Hungarian meri-
cans are naturally in sympathy, after
a certain residence in this wonderfully
democratic country Of yours. 1t does
not seem impossible that the support CT
ungarian-Americans to our political
cause may have the same epoch max
ing ln1uenCe OH IlunS"i i"i P'"Ni~'
that American ideals had at the end of
the eighteenth century in France, and
this support in itself would surely
make US Hungarians at home feel that
we had not lost in vain the 2,UOOOo
citizens who have come to the United
States. but rather that through our
numerical loss we had gained moral
asset which nothing could have secured
for us except the contact Of our citi-
zens with your country.
This IS the cause for which l have
revisited your America, with the con-
fidence and enthusiasm that | have al
WAYS felt for It. / have learned 10
like and to admire everything That L
have encountered in the United States.
81 have already referred to the pleas
IRE I took in meeting in Paris your
Ambassador TO France, Myron T. Her
rick. I was more than pleased to learn
from him that the Hungarians MADE
some Of the best citizens in all the
United States This is another PROOF
in nv mind that the Hungarian Amerl-
cans will be just as enthusiastic for the
cause as my political party and as l
am personally"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

understood that it belonged there.
All nations means all nations, and
the United States is certainly ma
ton"
THAT was the understanding be-
tween yourself and Lord Pauncefote
when you and he made the treaty."
/ pursued.
1T certainly was" he replied. 1T
was the understanding 'of both gov
ernments, and l have no doubt that 1t
was the understanding Of the Senate
when IL ratified the treaty. You will
remember that when the former treaty
was before the Senate this very ques-
ton was raised and an amendment
was proposed exempting American
shipping from tolls. and it was over
whelmingly rejected.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
THE PASSING OF REVOLUTION IN
PANAMA.

We discussed first the revolution of
1903 IN Panama, which had made that
country independent again and in
which the United States had intervene
10 a SUFFICIENT extent to prevent an IN
tcrnjrablc series Of counter rcvolu-
tons aud also the attempted rcvolu-
lion Of Only few weeks before Jy
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
WHAT SECRETARY JOHN HAY HAD TO SAY IN 1904
ABOUT CANAL TOLLS AFTER MAKING OF TREATY

siyely by one nation must be guarded
by that nation alone and in the way
which seems best to il. We should be
the laughing stock of the world if we
spent hundreds of millions of dollars
on a great work and left it lying in the
open. without adequate protection"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
COUNT KAROLYI.

tant Of all. we desire true democratic
institutions to insure the government
Of the people, and we hope TO attain
this chiefly through universal suf-
frage.' BY universal suffrage the
count docs not mean votes for
women"
He was asked about the Hungarian
school system and of the general man
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

the sovereignty Of the National Hun
garian State in all its functions. Not
only the military and diplomatic inst-
tutions, but in all, without exception.
We also wish 10 free ourselves eco
nomically from the Austrian yoke by
separating the custom house and by
creating a separate national bank.
Finally, and this is the most impor-
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12
NO COMMENT ON POLICE METH
obs.

Count Karolyi was asked II ne hau
anything to say in regard to the police
disturbance that greeted his opening
lecture on the East Side, when crowd
If 1000 persons fought around the en-
trance of the Central Opera House 10
hear his speech. The count smiled as
though the question amused him. l
cannot discuss your police methods,
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

ER. Joseph H. Choate, in letter
N TO Senator Mccumber last
week, declared that in the ne
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-04-12

- CUNT KAROLYI talked with a
Tribune man at the st. Regis
Hotel last week. 1t was no
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Worst in Years.
PHILADELPHIA. March l-One of
the worst storms in years visited this
c,y and vicinity to-day paralyzing
wire communication TO eastern points
erd bringing train service between
MS city end New York to q stand
stu. The Pennsylvania Railroad
company estimated that on its lines
alone there are between % and 30
trains stalled between the two cities
while the Philadelphia a. Reading
railroad Is In equally as bad shape.
The last train TO arrive from New
York over the former road reached
here nj , o'clock this afternoon while
the Reading a not had a train from
that city since 3:l5 O'Clock. Both
roads are despatching trains east
ward but II was said there Is little
prospect OF their reaching New York
tonight unless conditions improve.
carried by a fJ-mile gale. the storm
of sleet and snow crippled trolley and
electric light service in this city. An
hour before midnight the central see
lion or the city was IN darkness, while
across the river in Camden the city
l2hts- had TO be shut of because Of
crossed wires, which sounded fire
alarms and kept tine department ron.
u1ually on the jump.
Trees were uprooted. signs blown
down and houses unroofed. but so
Tar as could be learned no one was
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Predict Severe Cold.
lherc was a drop In the tempera-
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act. such as the tentative trade regu-
iations n monopoly definitions biIi
may result in abandoning these
measures altogether. Democratic
members OF the Serate and House
committees at work on the trust pro-
cram already have expressed fear
that such legislation viii disturb the
effectiveness Of the sherman law.
and the attorney general does moi
approve Of the bills in their present
form.
President Wilson himself. H. SER
iously considering the trust lepisIa-
tive situation and further confer
ences between the legislative and
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1914-03-02

ministration bills. but that time Is
here and not one of the bills pro-
posed j. ready for consideration IN
either the House or Senate commit
tse on interstate commerce will re-
port a bill 20 create an Interstate
trade commission this week or o
but many weeks will pass before
there will be reported proposed meas
ures 10 prohibit i~uterlocking direc-
%toratcs. regulate holding companies
and 10 provide for Federal regula
ton Of railroad securities.
Growing opposition to measures
which could supplement the sherman
The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1914-03-02

duce private capital To promote navi-
katlon IN shallow streams through
nope OF profit from the use Of Inc
water power generated.
'~t'ielary Bryan tomorrow will an
pear before the House committcc ~,
foreign atfairs TO explain the Mexican
sitnafiOn.
ne project fo- q national sniyer-
SHY. Is meeting with almost unapi-
nous approval in the House commit
tee on education. which tomorrow
VIII resume hearing on the Fess BIN
10 provide for the establishment OF
capital.