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The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

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yoss claim. Sud ~ yoss ssps,vss's
rscsspt, the nsmsss II ebas witssssss
end { will psspsss yoss uosiss sos psoos
J. \. f3nUnLHv. Costss, Csso
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

For sale-A motor cycle In so"d
repair. Cheap. Inquire Of Rev. W.
N. Snyder, Cortss, Colorado.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

On last Thurdsy, July 3rd., NM.
Luadqaist sntertaIned the fAdlss AID
u . delightful af.srnooa social u her
attractive home In Lebanon. NM
Lundquist entsrtains 10 very charm.
Ing manner and everyone reports q
pleasant time. Thoss presens were:
Nssdames VIII Glenn, w. G. miller.
P. n. Green, p. A. Mccormick, ALMA
Leavell, II. Rents, J. Mcdaniel, q. w.
Cordes aud daughter, Lorraine, nrs w.
Z. Bryan and guest, MRS. Evsrt Brown
Of Pueblo, Colorado.
n. h. Parsons and wife returned from
Durango after spending few days.
sisa Louise Rust spent three days
With her cousin, Ethel Dickerson. this
week.
Ms. Eunice Bryon Wss Waiting In
Arrtola vicinity this last week.
Mics Ethel Dickepon aud Misses
Lesa and Bonlice Wallace went fish,
Ing last Thursday.
Ar. aud Mira. Everett Brown Of Pu-
eblo, are guests Of Wade 4. Byrsn this
week.
NJ. and mrs. q. w. Cordes aud fam
lily spent the day with r. A. McCor.
mick and wife last Wednesday.
J. McDaniels and wife went to Do
lores last sunday to meet MT. Nc.
Daniels father aud mother from Cof-
fsevilie, Kansas, who are coming to
spend the summer.
The Ladies' will give an Ice cream
social August eth. aud everyone 10
most cordially invited.
MIS-. Allen Hammond Was on the
sick LIST lest week but 10 better now.
Mn. Gen. Leavell and Mn. Aims
Leavell aud two little sons, went to
durango last Friday aud returned on
sunday.
Nathan Dickerson returned from .
three days fishing TRIP this last week.
But NO fish stories.
M. and Mrs. o. A. Lundquist are
spending the week ct their ranch near
Arrio,a the guests Of d. Purcell aud
wife.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

"Msll- Box Corass' Oleaaiags.
Fine weather again after the niny
spell.
MN. Plimpton, Of Chicago, mother
- nm. n. q. R5ndb. y here vtsillns
Der daughter. she b accompanied by
hss daughter. Louiss. aud sos, Hamii
ton.
Gertrude Biliinesley was . caller In
our community last week.
M. aud xr.. HeAry and Mn. Henrys'
sister attended Sunday school at Ar.
riols lest Sunday.
NJ. and MN. Logan Scott visitsd the
Clin ruins last week 10 company with
. number Of othen. All report . gen.
ersi good time withrihe good fortune of
having had good roads and nne
weather most oil the time they were
gone.
J. d. Curtis, Of Colorado Spring. and
A. T. Rigdon, Of Independence, nis.
souri,, Elders Of the Rsorganissi church
Of Jesus Christ held services at the
Arriois school house last sunday SITTER
noon aud evening. All are cordially
invited 10 attend.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

For sale-A Smith = Basues p,ana.
mahogany caae, In ~ two ssd half
yeors. Original prior eass; GILL ss,l me
si@. Inquire II Rev. Snyder. Costes.
Colo.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Services In the Dolores Catholic
church - third Sunday Of each
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Mr. W. J. Marynee and daughter
Of Cortes, visited with Mn. A. I.
smith Of this place. sunday.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Have you taken notice that ~
never ask our rsaAers what thsy think
n the stun 10 our shessf No great
editor ever dnsa.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Miss Ella Hammond Of Lsbanon, b
spending the week With Mn. T. n.
Akin.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

The man who never advsstlsss = llks
the fisherman Who tosssss 70 hais hb
hook.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

ID. Chastain and X. Williamson left
yesterday for the Foote Williamson
camp on tile West Dolorv~.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Mrs. Ed Moore aud daughter wers
business CALLERS at The Star once
Saturday.
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31
LOCAL NEWS NOTES.

"
". ". Uenssp ~as ooSo from camp
s"w. uays .nm wee1.
Nm a p Moo,. ana a...h..,.
Aiss Eiia Hammond OF Lsoanon, b
Akin.
- e uu usuA
The Dolores star. [volume] (Dolores, Montezuma County, Colo.) 1901-current, 1914-07-31

Mn, Carl Tebbs visited with her
parents, Mr.. and Mn. w. W. Byers,
the first Of the week.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04

If you love music there should
be Victrola in your home.
For Rent - Three room house
Inquire at the Sunset Barber
Shop. 11-2Otf
Don't delay. Everything points
to an enormous Xmas trade.
Choose your gifts while our stock
is complete and before the rush be-
gins, Simonds' Drug Store.
Methodist Church - Su d y
School at 1000 q, III. Preaching
services at 1900 a. m. and 1880 p.
m. Special music. Epworth
League services at $50 p. N. All
are cordially invited to these serv-
ices. Rev. A. w. Roberts, pastor.
To the Farmers and Stockmen
of Honners Ferry and vicinity:-I
wish To say that / am a graduate
of the Kansas City Veterinary Col
lege and have had 10 years of prac-
teal experience. Am permanent
ly located at Troy, Mont, and will
be at the Golden Rule Livery Barn,
Boomers Ferry. every Saturday
Calls answered promptly. Wire at
my expense. Calls phoned to
Simonds' Drug Store or to the
Golden Rule Livery will be deliv-
cred free of charge. Dr. +. M
Bates, Troy, Mont. 11-20tf
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04
How's This :

We offer One Hundred Dollars Re
ward for any case of Catarrh that
cannot be cured by Halls Catarrh
Cure.
F. ]. CHENEY &c CO.. Toledo. o.
We the undersigned. have known L. j.
Cheney for the last is years. and believe
him perfectly honorable In all business
transactions and financially able to carry
out any obligations made by his firm.
NATIONAL BANK OF COMMERCE.
Toledo. @.
Halls Catarrh Cure IS taken internally
acting directly upon the blood and mu-
cous surfaces OF the system. Testmoniais
sent free. Price rs cents per bottle. Sold
by all Druggists.
Take Halle Family Pills for constipation
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04

The Ladies' AID of the Union
church will hold its ANIMAL bazaar at
the K of P. Hall on Friday after
noon and evening, Dec. 4. at 2
O o'clock. There will be all kinds
of fancy work, aprons candy and
many other art cles. Supper will
be served, consisting of baked
beans, brown bread, sandwiches.
salad, cake, doughnuts, pickles ~ d
coffee, all for 25c Now e
time to select your Xmas presents.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04
ALIAS SuMMONa.

In the Justice Court OF the State of Idaho, Bon
ner County. in and for Boomers Ferry Pre-
cinct, before A. J. Kent, Justice OF the Peace.
l.. n. Brown. Plaintiff, VS.. r. Barring, De-
PENDANT.
The State of Idaho sends greeting to the
above named defendant.
You are hereby summoned to appear in the
above entitled Court to be held at Boomers
Ferry Precinct, in the above entitled cause, at
ten o'clock a. m. upon the 2sth day of Deem
Der, 1914, and answer plaintiffs complaint on
file in said Court, or plaintiff will take ]udg-
ment against you as prayed in said complaint,
said action is brought to recover judgment
against you in the sum of s2SS45 for goods,
wares and merchandise sold and delivered to
you at yonr special instance and request, at
Boomers Ferry, Idaho, during the months OF
August and September, 1914.
Dated this Goth day of October 1914.
A.. J. Kent,
Justice OF the Peace.
s. E. Henry, p. o. Address Boomers Ferry, Ida
no, Attorney foT Plaintiff.
Certificate Justice 1.-THE Peace
/. Robt. g. Mccrea, Clerk of the District Court
of the Eighth Judicial District OF the State of
Idaho, in and for the County of Bonner, do
hereby certify that A. J. Kent was, on the 9Th
day of November 1912 duly ell cted Justice OF
the Peace Tor Boomers Ferry Precinct Bonner
County, Idaho, aud that his term of office
expire on the second Monday in January,
1915, and that full faith and credit are due to
all his official acts as such.
In testimony whereof have hereunto set
my hand and official seal at Standpoint, Idaho,
this u h day OF October 1914.
tsenl) RnBT. NJ CREi.
Clerk nf the District Court.
Oct 80 Dec RVS G YoDER. Deputy.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04
NOTICE TO CREDITORS

Estate of feter zawar deceased.
Notice is hereby given by the undersigned
executor OF the estate of Peter Zawar deces sed,
to the creditors OF, and all persons having
claims against the said deceased, 10 exhibit
them with the necessary vouchers, within 4
months after the FIRST publication OF this n tice
to the said executor at his once in Bonners
Ferry. Idaho, the same being the place for the
transaction OF the business of said estate in the
County OF Bonner, State OF Idaho.
Dated this 9th day OF November, 1914.
NovisLoc4 CHAs. O'CALLAeHAN, Executor.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04

Dry planning mill wood, S2.75
per load. Its better and cheaper.
Order at the Boomers Ferry
Lumber company S Office.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04

The best meats in the market at
the lowest prices at the Peoples
Market. No high cost of living if
you buy of us. Prompt delivery.
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04

Stock up now with our l6-inch
fir and tamarack slab wood. Phone
your orders to the office of the Bon
ners Ferry Lumber Company. If
Bonners Ferry herald. [volume] (Bonners Ferry, Idaho) 1904-current, 1914-12-04
Additional Locals

oIot sC shSNOi AiSAf N WCAAknOWn
rancher of LENA, was business
visitor in town Saturday.
Pay your taxes at Farmers &
/ umbermens State Bank Ronners
Ferry, Idaho, N27-D25
The Altar society will meet at
the home of Mrs George Loughney
next Thursday, December 10.
For Sale cheap-An extra good
organ. Must be taken at once.
Inquire at this Office. Nov27tf
G.. A. Buhrow was in Spokane
last Saturday and Sunday OIL
combined business and pleasure
trip.
High grade Jewelry, Cut Glass,
Silverware at prices to suit all. O.
F. Howe.
Mr.. and Mrs. R. H. Mccoy were
visitors in Spokane last Friday,
Saturday and Sunday returning
home Monday.
Moore's Furniture Co. just re-
ceived large shipment of pictures,
picture frames and picture mould
ing. Call and see them.
]. r. Meeker, Ray Heathershaw
and II. d. Stephens left Wednes-
day for the Skin Creek country on
a deer hunting trip.
Mrs. l.. N Brown returned
home last Saturday from a two
weeks visit with her sister, Mrs.
w. c. Fewkes, at Rexford, Mont.
Simonds Drug Store has the
most complete line of Holiday gifts
ever shown in Northern Idaho.
Remember our prices are absolute
ly the lowest. We invite you to
come in and let us show you some
of our exceptional bargains.
The Ladies Aid Society of the
Union church will meet in the lee
ture room of the church Wednes-
aftelnoo at o'clock. All mem
bers are requested to be present
and to bring their donations as
this will be the last meeting of the
society before the date of the an
nual bazaar.
The Pend d Oreille Review, re-
publican newspaper of Standpoint
owned by George R. Barker, was
leased last Friday to Messrs. Hol-
lenbeck, Macdonald and Neary,
all former employees of the Review.
The new publishers are we'll known
in Standpoint. are good newspaper
men and are sure to make go of
their new business venture. They
took possession December LIST.
Notice-We pay all postal or ex.
press charges on all out-of town
orders for Xmas goods as we'll as
all drugs and drug sundries. We
guarantee their prompt and safe
arrival. Send us your next mail
order. Simonds' Drug Store, Bon
rers Ferry, Idaho.
AT a special meeting of the
,hool board of Independent School
District No. held Tuesday night
Miss Mcdonald, of Wisconsin, was
elected to teach English in the
high school the remainder of the
term. Miss Mcdonald is taking a
postgraduate course at the Univer-
sity of Wisconsin. She is expect
ed here Monday. Miss Mary
Hawkins has been teaching the
English classes in the absence of a
regular teacher.
According to a telegram received
last Friday by DR.. c. +. Moore,
local agent for the Maxwell auto
mobiles, Barney Old6eld, the
worlds master driver, finished
third in Maxwell racer in the 30l
mile race at Corona, Cali. Mercer
was first, time 3 hours 26.52 min
utes; Duesenberg was second,
time 8 hours POLO minutes, and
Oldheld was third, time hours
POSI- minutes. Oldfield's driving
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
A Change For the Better

During the past week the office of County Assessor A. NJ.
Thomas has been occupied sending taxpayer post
card notice with the valuation personal prop
and further notice appear before the county
at their meeting for that purpose the Bird of September should
the he higher than the cash valuation
thinks is just
large part the complaint has property
did know the valuation placed that values changed
after the deputies had done their work Hence this desirable
taken by Mr. Thomas with advice
knowledge of his final valuation
that the question higher lower will depend
made by county, and school district officials
Every line OF property should
all these steps which will help in adjusting the
pcaed problem OF getting them eveled up that you
pay more than your neighbor on the property.
Examine the schedule, and ii there objection do
the learn the valuation placed your property
detail and then appear before the commissioners
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
NORMAL PLANS lRf OUT
LINED Foa KIT Tern
(Continued from First PaGe.)

man and Greek, Edith Marion Morgan,
Librarian, w. c. p. Meddins, manual
training, Earle A. Pritchard, physical
training and Eva Alberta Rogers, public
school music, voice and piano.
The summary of attendance of the
normal school shows an enrolment for
the school year of I9l3-14 of 252 stu
dents. The catalogue, which also con-
tains the announcements for the county
high school term of 1914-15 gives the
high school enrolment of the past year
as being ninety-four. The high school
courses are outlined and the names of
NAL and high school during the past
term are printed in the back part of the
book.
A real feature of the catalogue is a
Historic Sketch" of the normal writ
ten by Charles +. Adams, editor Of the
Montrose Press, who was member of
the first board of trustees of the school.
This is a most excellent account of the
struggles and accomplishments which
resulted in establishing the Colorado
State Normal School. This. according
to Mr. Adams narrative, represents an
ambition Of Gunnison people which took
life twenty-nine years ago, when the
Honorable Archie NJ. Stevenson intro
duced the first normal school bin in Colo
raAn Tknu ba ,F
with their dream of a normal school
originating before the institution at
Greeley was established, and with their
many unsuccessful attempts to secure
such school scattered through twenty
nine years years, and with the first bill
Tor such an institution signed as long
ago as 1901 by Governor Orman. have
indeed just and substantial reason for
their enthusiasm for the school. Mr..
Adams closes his history with the fol-
lowing tribute to the normal and to
GunnisOn:
And thus has been born and made
. permanent an Institution that shall do
velop into great magnitude. an institu-
ton that VIII fit men and women to in
suil INTO the youthful minds those es-
sentIals to good citizenship. how to use
the hand and brain and how TO utilize to
the highest degree of perfection the
talents. God-given, all made possible
through the love and devotion mani
Tested by those Coloradoans who now
H'e al Iunnison or once made their
home in the most beautiful, most hospi-
table and dearest city in the Centennial
state
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
H0GGATT TO tNG0URAGE GREATER LAND
THRIFT IN COLORADO Which IS NEEDED

NOlney 7. Hoggatt, register of the
state land board has announced two
great land sales for September. One is
for l77 900 tillable acreage within easy
market distance Of Colorado Springs
and the excellent railroad facilities
radiating from Little London. "
All of the requirements are set out
below. The auction sales Of the land at
ths first, September 3, the great cattle
pastures near Colorado Springs will be
placed on the market. September 10,
26l. SOB acres under the same terms and
conditions, viii be placed on sale al
Limon. The land to be sold there is in
Ebert and Lincoln counties.
The lands in Fl Paso, Elbert ant
Lincoln counties will be sold to actua
settlers who will agree to build house,
barn and outbuildings, fence the land
keep three heavy work horses and five
dairy cows and cultivate at least hall
the land the first year. The land will b,
sold in 320-acre tracts. and each alter
nate section viii be reserved to lease {,
the actual settler who has complied Wit.
the requirements of the state lsnt
board. on land bought from the state.
The land is ideal for the farmer an,
the dairyman. 1t is fairly level, somt
parts Of il rolling, and it is bisected b.
numerous creek beds where water i
easily available.
There is water the year around il
some Of these creeks, and in Others 0uh
water in food seasons. In the whoi
area however domestic water wells cal
be had at depths varying from 40 10 ~
feet. and in the deeper wells the waite
rises TO within 80 feet of the surface
making an easy pumping proposition.
The great new area to be wreste
frun the cattle barons and given 70 th
actual settler lies east and northeast o
Colorado Springs, principally in Fl Pas
county. II i largely a sandy loan o
great depth, with streaks Of ella
through II. adapted admirably for tn
farming plan suggested by Prof. H. NJ
COttreIL. agricultural commissioner o
Rock Island railroad, which great sys
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21

tenn Is cooperating with the state land
board in attracting farmers to people
this area.
Following the established policy of
the state land board. if the settler de-
elares his purpose to build houses and
barns and fences and cultivate the land.
he will be given the land against the
longer purse of the beef baron. who is
making last desperate stand to retain
as much as he can of his former great
principality.
Il want sale that win appeal to the
man who wants a real home and a real
farm. This land is to be sold at auction.
The settler, the real farmer, will have
a monopoly on the bidding. A bid Of
s. an acre, coming from a man who has
the necessary farming equipment. and
Is ready to go on the land. will be a
higher bid in our estimation than one OF
SO from a speculator.
The land board is authorized by law
% PROMOTE the settlement Of ths
land. Usually in promotion scheme.
the promoter gets block Of treasur,
stock free. In this case we are goine
to make the farmer the promoter. n,
I get the treasury stock. He will hav,
the opportunity to get the land cheaplv
He VIII be given the advantages. \,
speculator can buy these state lands
I The prize offered the settler. tb,
1 farmer. viii be cheap lands and the op
I portunlty TO develop them.
Colorado land laws. under which W,
viii sell this land, are the most liberal il
the world. They have been on tb,
statute books for years. but have no
been executed. Our land laws have No.
been published. and even the lawyer
have not known all about them.
/ If our laws regarding settlement O
land had been executed. we would NO
have seen the big rush to Canada. On
laws offer settlers just as much. and
wish all could see the difference he
tween the lands in E Paso and tbos.
], 900 miles north.
I've cant grow crops By legislation
We must get men On the land VIII
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21

KNOW how 70 farm. To get this HAND
settled this land board IL Offering q
prize-cheap lands and opportunity.
Il have been digging into our lsnd
laws by twenty legislatures. | have
found that the farmer and the settler
have not been benefited or encouraged
by them at all. but we are gong 70
make change by simply helping the
farmer to help himself.
AT these sales we are going to sell
20o. 900 acres 20 the men who will pro
dace the most wealth from it. Let us
take two prospective bids as examples
Zone man bids s. an acre for 32t
acres. He has horses, few dairy
cows, and he agrees to sink well and
put up a windmill and farm the land sc-
cording to right farming methods.
Another man bids $40 an acre for
the same tract. We learn that he lives
in the city and will continue to live
there. He wants ~ speculate, and may
let the land lie idle for years.
This board is given powers by the
laws to sell for the best interest of the
state.
The biggest and most practical prob
lem confronting federal and state gov
ernments now is how To bring the hun
CRY millions of citizens to the hundreds
of millions of idle acres. Everywhere
the cry is the 'land and the man.,
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

The Gunnison News-Champion is auth
orized to announce the candidacy Of
h. II. JORGENSEN
Of Marble, Colorado, for the Democratic
nomination as County Treasurer of Gun
nison county, subject to the will of the
people in the direct primary.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21

Among parties rendered by the young
ladies to Miss Kate Arch, one Of our
brides to-be. was shower at the home
Of Miss Nell Eastman, last Friday, the
l4th. Useful and beautiful kitchen
utensils were brought by the twelve
young ladies' who participated in the
party. Miss Arch is to be married Sun
day. August 23rd, to Mr.. Laurau Hiatt.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
METHODIST CnURCN

Regular services at the M. Z. church
next Sunday. Special musical numbers
in the evening service at eight. Follow
ing this Sunday the pastor will leave
for conference. and may be away
several weeks.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21

At the home Of Miss Lou Lightiey on
saturday eight young ladies we're enter
tanned at dinner IN honor Of Miss Arch.
A miscellaneous shower Of ante-nuI,tia
presents was a feature of the pretty
party. which was much enjoyed by the
young lady guests.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
A Forgotten Poem

The has caused exchanges dig up all the famous
about blood and from the Charge the Light
Brigade TO battle OF Mateoo and Tolstos last tale far
aterave running through the
alphabet in this fashion.
An Austrian army. awfuly arrayed,
Boldly by battery beseged Belgrade,
CoBquering Cossaeks canBonadiRg
Dealing death. devastation, doom,
Every endea engineers essay,
Fighting for freedom
Here recollection fails Who among readers furnish
the balance of the poem.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
INSTINCT uua1 Kus
r TM hsT WEEK

Continued from First Page.
Harry Brownell Robert Lewis
James Hayes Jos. t,iiebrecht
kssper Pressler Louis Linn
Tom Gri'fIths Il. y. Bowers
A. y. Chinery Simon Moore
Phillip Meek A. A. Miller
Valentine Ehret Jr Anthony Comstock
Phil Caufman VIM. Corbitt
Dan Barnes James Carey
Jos. O'Neal Chas. Stewart
Lee Reynolds W. s. Henderson
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21

Cards for an ''at home with Mrs. j.
ID. Walker. on Wednesday the a'th,
have been Oat several days. The social
function Is IN honor Of Mrs. v. y. sny-
der. a neice of Dr.. Walker. who Is q
quest 1T their home.
Gunnison news-champion., 1914-08-21
EDITORIAL

With his issue News Champion begins again pgtaton GIFTS
"Tweuty Years Age column FroH many have
ced word that these stories OF old times when GuRnison
Young read with However the editor undecided
whether that interest great enough 30 Justify making regular
feature Az this FIRST please its readers
wish would the NewChanTaon whether hike
to read about fwenty Years Ago. whether DO not
for the