The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1914-05-03
BURNS HAS NO PROOF
CONLEY ISACRIMINAL
Believes Evidence at First Trial
Will Convict Negro and
Free Frank.
JUDGE STOPS HIS TALKING
Detective Tells of Crowd Chas-
ing Him. Yelling "Lynch
Him." and "Gct Him."
JUDGE STOPS HIS TALKING

Ar,ANT.. May c-Detcctivc ". J.
Burns was questioned for more than an
honf to-day In regard tc his connection
with the. Frank case by Solicitor General
Hugh Dorsey at the hearing on the extra
ordinary motion. Dan thhon. Rurnss
aid. was excluded from tic room at Dor
sey's suggestion. despite the objection Of
Reuben Arnold, who asserted mat the
proceedings were not strictly legal Burns
admitted during the hearing that he has
No proof OF crime committed by Conley.
Burns said that he hac been employed
~ Herbert and Leonard Haas OF counsel
for the defence and got full freedom In
bio Investigation. He said that the aues-
ton Of freeing Frank did not enter into
the contract and did not AFFECT his pay in
any way.
Tho detective admitted that he had
concluded Frank was not Il pervert after
. few hours conversation. and said that
subsequent interviews had strengthened
tha4 impression. He said In answer to
9usotion as to the training which made
him IN expert in that line that he had
come In contact with large numbers Of
criminals and perverts also.
Burns testified that he had not seen
The negro Conley. believing It useless in
view Of tho restrictions placed on any
proposed visit Asked how he knew Con-
lsy was . pervert. he replied that tho
letters written to Maud Carter and the
oendition Of Mary Phsgan's clothes
ehoWed II. He said the letters had all
the characteristics Of the murder notes.
Denying that he posed handwriting
expert. the detective said that the re-
semblance in the writing was plain.
All Barnes Evidence In.
The Solicitor brought out that all the
svidsncs discovered by Burns or his
agents 10 either now a part Of the record
Or u In the hands OF attorneys for the
defence. He developed also that Burns
has no further evidence
Burns said that 80 far as he knows
The defence has no witnesses whose testi-
meny has not been injected into the case.
Burns was questioned In regard to the
alleged perjured afiidavits submitted by
the defence. especially the one made by
the Rev. c. Il. Ragsdale. The detective
stout,y denied he had any hand In sub
oraing perjury.
"If you had no part in the Ragsdalc
matter and did not turn up the Annie
Maude Carter letters will YOU please tell
the court one thing that you have done
In this investigation? You have been
here sixty to ninety days. Mr.. Burns !;
what have YOU been doing all this time. >"
asked Dorsey.
Burns replied that he had gone thor
ougbly over tn. briefs of evidence. that
he had examined important witnesses.
that he had visited the National Pencil
factory. where Mary Phagan was muir
dcred, and had visited the solicitor In his
office.
"hnd what was the result Of all this
work. asked Dorsey.
81 made "a report TO my clients" said
Burns ''in which 1 told them that they
did not need any evidence aside from
that which was submitted at the first
trial: that this showed beyond "A doubt
that Conley was the man guilty of the
crime"
'sDuring your Investigation what Grim
inal act did you ever discover that Con-
Law had committed - asked Dorsey
IT don't know that have discovered
any except as to his general character
REPLIED Burns
BY croes-examination Attorney Arnold
6rosIsht out the statement from the de-
tecfiva that he had been blocked in his
800 here in a most outrageous manner
JvA~e Prevents some Answers.
Wneh Ml. armour ~as asNus t'e wv.
beoo ABOUT inc manner III Whch nus wors
Wae hampereu Judge nm iheer'up'eu'
sGyMS:
Il am not goihs 10 aIio~ ,nls ~tness
70 answer any Ques,io"s whIch re"ec'
upon the veraict Oh "e Jury y, uno ue
cscion OF the supreme Court " "rsia
Tho nearing VIII DC resumed ON Monuay
0l0t0lnR, Wnen Ian lGuOis IuTiio . dsriot-
ant, Will take the stanu'
Burns said To-Day tnat the 'rouo'e ne
had with citizens OF Marietta yesterday
afternoon was one OF the most outrageous
anairs OF when ne had ever heard.
1T was cowaroiy ana uhprovokeo as
s"cn .m.hs s, sTs AID nothin@ @