The Detroit times., 1914-10-22
'DICTACRAPH MAN SWEARS
BRENNAN DID NOT OFFER
~
MONEY TO AID. Gilman

because ne was srai'er
..Did he say the reason that he
wanted him was because he was q
grafter?'
mo. have told all he said to
me-"
Harpfer was then excused and
Miss Grace Gilman. 19-year-old
daughter OF the alderman, was
called
do you remember the time when
your father was arrested?" asked
MeNamara.
''Yes. SIR"
She was then questioned as TO
what took place In her fathers
home the Tuesday after his arrest.
when Andrew n. Green, Jr. called.
"He called at the house between
1 and 3 o'clock. Ny mother, my
sister. Mrs. jacques, and myself were
home. / think Mr. Green came In
himself. heard the conversation
between my father and Mr.. Green,
Mr.. Green said: Mr.. Gilman, you
go down and tell the Judge you're
guilty Then he said, he being the
biggest man In Detroit would go
down and see the Judge and get him
on.
Then he said he would give
father q responsible position In the
ISolvay and trust him with his bank
book and father said that II he told
the judge he was guilty he would
be crook and Mr. Green could not
employ him. Mr.. Green said. My
God, Tom, don't say that"
Tears came into the girls eyes as
she delivered this last sentence with
dramatic effect. She said her
mother was iii in bed at the time.
In answer to Frazer's questions
the witness said Mr.. Green told her
he was sorry and urged her to cheer
up.
What did he say to your sister?
''She would remember that better
than t.
"Did he speak to her particular
ly"
Yes,
"Did he speak to your mother? 2"
"Yes, he said he had mother and
would help us all he could"
Where was Mr.. Green In the
house?"
I'm the front parlor."
Did anybody else come to the
housed"
Il don't remember"
"No other friends?''
II don't remember"
did Mr.. Green and your father
cryf"
Eyes, we all cried"
Remember anyone else then, dur
ing the week following that dayf"
II don't think SOL don't remem-
ber."
your mother was In an accident
at some timer"
"Yes."
"she walked with some diffcui-
tyr
YES"
"she walked when she went to
Pearl Beach?"
eyes, she had been sick for some
time. / was at Pearl Beach with
my mother for two or three weeks
and came home with her"
did your father ask Mr.. Green
what the Judge would do II he did
plead guilty?"
II don't remember that"
The prosecutor then announced:
That's ALL and Mcnamara took
up the indirect examination.
"Did you have any arrangements
with your father that he was to
meet you on July 26, on your return
from Pearl Beach?"
"Yes, IL had been arranged"
"You got In about 8 o'clock?"
Yes"
WAS your mother illf"
Yes, as a result Of her injuries"
The witness said her mother was
lying In bed In the next room during
the Sunday conversation between
Gilman and Green.
"was this conversation you testi-
fed to when Mr.. Green first entered
the room?" An objection by the
prosecutor was overruled.
when he first came In he went
into the parlor and there I heard
the conversation" said the witness
She was then excused.
Mrs. Marie Kate Gilman. wife OF
the defendant, was then called. The.
accused alderman's wife has a kindly
face, marked with lines OF illness. She
made pathetic figure on the witness
stand.
She said she had been married 26
years. and has two daughters. She 10
'46 years old.
you nave been injuredy" asked
McNamara.
Yes, In March, 1911. Two of my
ribs were bent. the cartilage broken
and my forehead cut had been In
poor health previously"
On July 2s," she said. her health
was medium" She cried when ref
erence was made TO her husbands ar
rest
Il was visiting with my daughter
at my sisters place In Pearl Beach
In July. 1912. I went there Monday
and was to return Friday. Ny hus-
band was to meet me 1t Pearl Beach.
II he did not come was to 60 to the
city hall. I got TO Detroit at about 8
O'Clock In the afternoon"
do you remember being home. ON
July 10. when Mr.. Brennan came TO
your placer"
"Yes. he came in q big machine be-
tween 8 and In the evening. was
sitting on the porch and my husband
was alongside of me. My son-in-law
was leaning against I porch post.
When Mr.. Brennan came took the
rocker and went alohsside the house.
I did not hear the conversation."
Now did you hear Mr.. Green's con.
'yersation In your house on Sunday.
July 2sfv