The evening world., 1914-05-14

'bSCNs ~. ENo.
q. What conversation did YOU ever
nave with Becker regarding Herman
soOenthsif A. In the latter part OF
tune I met Becker and went with
.iss In q tasicab TO One Hundred and
twenty fourth street and Seventh
avenue.
Mr.. whitman was leading straight
10 the Harlem conference.
q. What did Seeker ssy? A.
Becker tsek me aside and ssid TO
me, "Wiii ysv sss the beys end
&C. that shst -is eroaked.
Nee GOT 70 BE- erssksd bsfsrs
No sets 10 the witness stand.
ts's making trouble"
Wskbs~ eo0tiNvsd,-"l said you
want him murdered, chsr'is7
rhat's Q pretty serious thing.
zee osing 70 ct . whole lot Of
pespls into tvovb,e Hs said;
"vhst's all right. 0rsdSls. ~ lsek
ssesr svsrybsdy. ~ sss that Ne.
ksdy Osts IN tseub,s." Tkso no
tssk Jsek Rsss one side.
SAYS oGckEN CALLED HIN ON
Thg PHONE.
.. How diA you come to have this
convsrsaa1onf A. Becker called me
on ths telephone. I recognised bis
voice.
Wsobsr described the gathering Of
the murder party In his rooms. ending
VITA ~ arrival Of DaSo Frank. At.
tended BY Rose and 6chsppA He said
I'd murdee among tAs conspirat0rs
while they were waiting Tor the word
70 % est - the killing.
=. when you got 10 the Metropole
Aete) The night Rosenthal was killed
w1AS "a yoS sssf 4. A lot Of people
sot1ln9 asOuAd.
q. bs1 POS So Rossathai. A. Yss.
aleeong at . table
Q. what Aid you 10 then? A. I
Woae % ~ plA0s and tolA Jack Rose
TIT Nooeathal Wa1 at the 1lotropole.
Q. Why did you do that. A. BE.
ca0oe he had Asked ne to 0nd whore
Q. What happened then7 4.
Dvosybody. wsnt out In . hurry. the
Ouogisa AssG koss aaA Sohepps wsat
Q. Nd ysvs A. No. Not for ave
n,iauteD. Then I went down Forty.
second street to Broadway. I was
ayouol thafe for awhile when . man
eaDe 70 me ana told ne Rossnthal
Z had bssn shot.
aaANToN oGoiMs cRoos TX.
y AMiNlNQ We0OGR.
This ended Mr.. WMtman's direct
08amination and Mr.. Manton began
~ cross questioning.
q. when did you Arst become .
samblsri 4. rye been . gambler ell
q. DidnY you have an opium place
et No. . Peu strsstf 4. Yss. or.
q. WaS u eaidedr A. Yes. or.
Q. Dtd you have . poolroom At No.
~ Second avenue? A. Yes.
q. Wasn't that place saided? 4.
Q. How long have you known Val
~ Who was known - your lobby.
UpwT \. Four o. ave ysars. He
Q. Didn't you live with Q giri In
0posoA avenue. aAd didn't q fellow
nADed Hyman Cooey take her away
frcm you, and didn't you have Coosy
sonrasred for doing itr A. No. never.
q. DID you have . place at Forty.
seoo1d street and Sixth avenue?
&. !. pa you havs q place AZ Forty.
nfth near Broadway
O. Have you never read the tes.i-
many put you at the last trial or talk
- about Il or had Il read to you?
4. I've never seen It: never talked
70 any one about II.
q. Didn't you leave out purposeiy
. 0Dnversation with Becker On Forty
seeona AFTER the alleged murderi
= Nss... whs. was ..id.
=. Becker naid to Rose: Jack.
eoatratulats you" Rose said: "crar-
DeV'S bses asoupd 70 the station house.
Whitmsn's there and has the number
- The car" Becker aid: "Thsy'v 'vo
eot . lot Of pumbers-all wrong.
Ooqit worry" Hose said he had TO
moooy and Becker said TO me: "0rid.
81. yev Give Jsek $1,000 and thstil
ee9o ! eve yeS, u will ga the
- What else did he say?
= H sid s0methipe about cut.
0og Roeenthais tongue "ut for
o6ueallng.
q Did you see Mr.. Whitman In
pa61aic tile week? A. Yes.
Ana YOU didn't talk about the case
With him7" asked Manton.
We talked about the case. Of
o0urso," Webber said.
q Now many times did Mr.. Whit
ulaa - y0u1 A. Only once.
@ Who else went TO zee you? A.
Mr.. Gssshl.
Q. Any one else? A. Yes: Al Thomas
ulRs to zee me-
q But no one talked with you about
yepr testimony At the Last trial? A.
when Mr.. Aanton asked Wsbber
q he had purpOssly left out of his
tnnGimony in the present examination
I WAT he had SAID at the first trial
ahont having told his chauffeur Otto
thAk ~ Nv Ws6ber) would like to stand
+ sstha& - - Rosenthal up against
y ehsWan and take shot at him and
tsea put on full speed" Webber de.
nd that he had purposely omitted
IL He admitted testifying to II At the
nrGt trial, but denied leaving II out
bocauss the District Attorney thought
lt best omitted this time.
q. II Rose testified that you talked
With becksr about Rosenthai before
the Harlem meeting he Is mistaken
4 A.. Yes, sir.
Q. Who went up with you-schcpps!
Q. DID Noe Cohen drive you up?
Q. II tell you schepps swore at the
InGt trial that Cohen drove You up
"a IL rafpSah vour u.amarSY A