Yorkville enquirer. [volume] (Yorkville, S.C.) 1855-2006, 1914-02-10
Newberry and heard Mrs. Eison and
Mrs. or Miss Fulmer talking about DR..

Saunders.
Gov. Blease-That is false.
DR.. Babcock-That is what Col
a ull told me. Col. Aull told me that
Gov. Please.
Gov. Blease-Mr. Chairman, l OBJ
iect to drawing my sisters name In
here by Dr. Babcock or anyobdy else
You let my sisters name stay out OF
this. Now, Mr.. Chairman. my sister
has nothing to do with this transac-
ton and II Elbert Aull said anything
to him 1t Is hearsay and not evidence
Now I want my sisters name left out
Of this investigation.
Dr. Rabcock-I said nothing. These
gentlemen are trying to push me In q
corner.
Gov. Blease-You leave my sisters
name out of this or l will put you
where you won't be able to talk.
Mr.. Hardin-What Mr.. Aull would
saw to you, of course, would be hear
say, even If what Mr.. Aull says Is true
Other matters.
Other portions of DIR. Babcock's tes-
tinony are given as follows in the Ste
nographic report:
O. State, DR.. Babcock, whether
your authority and your powers have
been interferred with In recent years
more than before A. UP to the first
of last July the appointment OF assist /
ants at the state hospital have usu-
ally been made by the board OF re-
gents after consultation with me ano
generally upon my recommendation
BY q rule Of the board OF regents
which they passed there last-either
December, 1912, or January, l9l3-the
regents assumed the right and an
ha Rt.of M fhQy
would elect all subordinate officers OF
the institution.
O. They changed the rule from the
old board? A. If the old board had
any specific rule am not aware OF It;
but the old board were
O. Who were the old board? A.
When went there the board consisted
of nine members. The legislature In
the fall of 1891 reduced that board
from nine to five. or that five l think
DR.. B. w. Taylor, Dr.. Talley, Capt:
Iredell Jones, Mr.. Anthony White and
Maj. Gooding, If I recollect them. were
the five men.
O. That was when you went on,
you say? A. BY law they were taken
from the nine that had been previous
ly in office.
@. Well, now, DR.. Babcock, since
July Of last year you say the board of
regents have pro lulgated q rule-A.
Since January or December wear
ago. Yes, sir, they promulgated that
rule.
O. In which they elected your sub
ordinates? A. All.
Was Not Consulted.
@. Without consultation with you ?
A. Well, they didn't say so, but when
it came to the first Of July they had no
communication with me.
O. In other words, do / understand
you to say that your heutenants or
subordinates' out there, assistants, are
put there without recommendation or
consultation with yourself? A. Abb
solutely. l made one appeal before that
election. 1 regarded Eleanora B.
Saunders as the best official OF the in
ST stltution. l made a personal appeal To
Gov Blease and he most heartily re-
sponded in recommending to tbs re-
gents the re-appointment or re-eiec-
tion of DR.. Saunders. Outside OF ina!
any Of the others
O. Doctor, do I understand from
that the ones whom these appointees
superseded were not notified or you
consulted as to their discharge or loss
OF office or call for their resignation!
A. l had no information at all from
the board Of regents.
O. Did the beard of regents make
any complaint to you that those assist
ants or subordinates were incapaci-
tated in any way to perform the func-
tions Of their offices? A. Never.
@. In fact, had the subordinates un-
der you up to the time Of any changes
that may have been made, were they
satisfactory to you in their services
A. They were, entirely.
Friction Discussed.
@. And you had made no com
paint? A. Well, / had made some
complaints-that is. the officials who
were not reappointed were entirely sat-
isfactory to mel had made some
complaints to DR.. Carothers of the
board of regents, and he had discussed
the matter with me, OF what he callec
friction. He had told me
@. About what time was this, doc.
tor? A. This was previous to the mrs.
OF last January. DR.. Carothers nae
| told me that he was aware OF frict1or
there, practically existing between DR.
Thomson, DR.. Griffin and myself; tha
Dr. Griffin had complained to him o.
my not supporting him in some refec'
tions he had made on certain nurses
and that DR.. Griffin was very SORE
about that. DR.. Carothers said tina
he hoped that friction might be re-
moved. told him was perfectly will
ling to do my part, but l was neVel
called into any conference about 1t
These were simply discussions be-
tween DR.. Carothers and me.
@. Yes. Well, doctor, who compos'
the board of regents now? A. Tn
board Of regents as now constitutes
consists of DR.. T. r. Carothers or Roci
Hill, president; Mr.. j. A. SummerseI
Of Columbia, vice president; Mr. !. y
Rivens, DR.. J. H. Taylor OF Columoi,
and DR.. w. L. Settlemeyer OF Carney
| Appointed by Governor.
| Q. Now, do understand that yo'
and the asylum hospital for the in
sane. are all under the jurisdiction
and the power Of this board OF re
gents? A. The superintendent CT tn
state hospital is an appointee OF tn
O. Yes, sir. A. After his appoint
ment he is subordinate to the board
regents. 4,
@. He is subordinate? A. Al
others are appointed by the board
regents.
Q. Now, the governor appoints
| ISuDerintenQent ana lEle DOdIu VI 2
gents appoints his assistants; that
the way you run it now? Now, l be
lieye you have already stated that yo'
had not been consulted about the ap
pointment of your assistants or supor
dinates? A. l had not as to IN
changes made on the first OF last Jul!
| knew nothing about the changes un
til after the board had adjourned.
December Meeting.
Concerning the meeting of the boar
Of regents at the asylum in December
the following stenographic report !
given: 49,
DR.. Babcock-We appeared in IN
meeting room of the regents. Ther
were present at that meeting GOV
please and four of the regents. Their
were DR.. Carothers, DR.. Settlemeyei
Mr.. Rivens and DR.. Taylor. Ther
were also present the four or five as
sistant physicians. also DR.. Thompson
DR.. Griffin, DIR. Fulmer. DR.. Black
burn, and DIR. Toole, the dentist. ID
Saunders was present and myself.
| | understood from DR.. Taylor thai
when the board called this meeting o.
the previous day, it was decided tina
I should not be admitted and 1t wa
with considerable difficulty that Dl
Taylor gained the consent of the boar
Of regents that l should be present a
this hearing. In the assembly room
H.,