The Detroit times., 1914-10-23

Some OF the statements made had
reference 10 the Gilman caseT
yes"
And those statements also had ref
erence to Jasnowskis conduct In me
case."
Objection sustained.
did Jasnowski try To excuse his
conduct by saying he was instructed
by Shepherd"
Ruled out
"Mr. Jasnowski told me that he was
asked by the governor TO come 70
Lansing and that he would respond
said Pipp, In answer TO another cues
ton.
did you have conversation with
Detective Conn regarding the con-
duct of the case?'
Objection sustained.
did ne make statement TO your"
Objection sustained.
Prosecutor Frazer then submitted
Mr.. Pip TO stiff cross.fire. He
asked Pipp to repeat his conversation
with Gilman regarding the Wabash
petition. The witness read q pre-
pared statement which conveyed sub
stantially the same information that
his extemporaneons testimony did.
The conversation. Pipp explained. was
written by the municipal reporter who
was I'm the room at the time. The
last line he read was interesting. IL
said: For several minutes Gilman
related stories that he had heard OF
money being passed In the council"
"As I remember IT," explained Pipp.
''he mentioned the council. an incident
I'm his own ward. and court. could
give the names used. but think II
would hardly be fair"
did he say anything about the Wa
bash job he was going to get for his
services"
This was objected TO and the wit
ness replied mo" TO the same Ques-
ton In another form.
Pipp said he did not have q word
with Gilman for about a year follow
ing the conference In his once IN
May, 1912.
"Did Gilman ever report any graft
regarding the Wabash petitionr
"No."
did Gilman ever talk to you about
voting machines?"
II think / had conversation OF
about 10 words with him.
did he report any graft to you In
connection with the voting machine
proposition?"
Objection upheld.
Aid. George A. Owen. the venerable
dad" of the city council. was the
next called.
Are you acquainted with Aid. Gin
nang"
yes: have known him since he
came into the council
Remember the circumstances sur
rounding fling Of alleged Wabash pc
titions?"
"Yes, I was then member Of the
committee on streets"
When court adjourned. Thursday
afternoon, Attorney McNamara stated
to Judge Phelan that he had little
more testimony TO offer for the de-
tense. with the testimony OF the
defense In only the rebuttal and argu-
ment will be left before the case Is
ready for the jury.
Frank II. Smiley, former held man
ager for the William j. Burns Ma
tionai Detective agency. appeared.
Thursday, as witness for the de-
Tense. Smiley's testimony was given
In support Of Glinnan's to the effect
that the alderman did not make Q con
fession in the graft chamber.
The witness freely admitted that he
was In the employ of Glinnan's attor-
neys, that they had paid him between
$500 and $500 and still owed him
about $125. Smiley also willingly ad-
I-skx.x1 Sh~x ho .nruroN thA aopyfro~ AZ
McGurn. another former Burns oper.
alive. and talked with Sheridan. who
has also bean an operative. to find out
II he had any information that would
be Of value to the defense. Both
Sheridan and McGurn, a. well as
Smiley. worked on the Gilman case
under william J. Burns.
Smiley admitted that he was ar.
rested In Chicago and pleaded guilty
to the technical charge OF conspiracy
vita the privilege OF Withdrawing
the plea IL no evidence waS produced
against him. No such evidence was
produced, he stated, and he was freed
Smiley denied turning states evi
dence in the case. The charge against
Smiley was that Of conspfring to de-
fraud the Independent Order OF For
esters out OF $4,000.
Eight character witnesses for Gin
nan " ere put upon the stand and ex
amined by Attorney J. p. Scallon:
william F. Hackett, undertaken, No
ga Dix-ave.: John II. warnecke. for
list. No. 2429 Fortst. west; Chas. W.
Kurth. attorney, No. 100 Fort-st
west; Frederick A. Schneider, haber
dasher, No. 6S7 MorrelLave.; William
Daley. hotel owner, No. TO West
Grand blvd; William J. Pulte. saloon
keeper, No. 357 st. Aubin-ave.; Harry
J. Dingeman. president Of the common
council: Harry A. Dupont. chief build
ing inspector, and William r. Moeller
county auditor. They all spoke well
of the defendant.
The alderman's attention was called
| to a meeting the committee held In
July. 1912, and subsequent ''junket'
| to Harbaugh-ave. In connection with
the Wabash petitions. Aid. Owen re
membered riding backS In Detective
Brennan's machine, but could not re
call q word of the conversation ne
had with the detective.
Remember saying to Brennan that
you didn't know how Aid. Gilman
managed to live on his salary"
81 don't recollect It," ~
Gus A. Miller saattorney, was quiz
zed regarding Van Dykes testimony
as to being present In Room 40s on