The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1914-10-21
SAID: Il SHOT HIM."
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there about half a minute and then
went out to the waiting room. DR..
Carman was there and SO was another
man. went into the kitchen and re-
turned to the office in about a min
ute. Mrs Powell (Mrs. Caravans sis
teri was in there then. Then I went
back into the kitchen and finished
washing the dishes and went to my
room and went to sleep.
Burst into Tears.
THE next morning about daylight
Mrs. Carman came to my room. She
was dressed in a night gown. She
said, oh. Celia, what did I kill that
woman for? hope God will forgive
me. You stick to me and If anything
happens to you I'll take care Of your
little boy
II saw Mrs. Carman later that
morning at the breakfast table and
she burst into tears. After breakfast
she came into the kitchen and told me
to forget that 1 had seen her the night
before. Later that day Mrs. Carman
came in with her lawyer, Mr.. Levy.
asked me what knew. I told Mr..
Levy that did not know anything.
Mr.. Levy came again the next day.
Before he came Mrs. Carman told me
to tell him was not downstairs after
dinner. She wrote out some state
ment and signed it without reading
It. He read it, however. The state
ment was not true.
THE day after the murder Mrs.
Carman came into the kitchen and
asked me to make a wood fire in the
stove, which I did. Later she came
down stairs with a bundle of letters
and burned them.
"That same day she told me to call
her father from the barn because she
vva ~ "a him fn
of the house. Mr.. Conklin, her faith
err, came in and went to her room and
then came down stairs again. He had
a hammer with him. He returned to
the barn. The next day, Wednesday,
Mrs. Carman came into the kitchen
and asked me to- step into the office.
1 went in and the detectives began to
question me-"
did you tell the truth at the cor
oner's inquest" the district attorney
asked.
1T did not the witness answered.
The district attorney then turned
the witness over to John ]. Graham,
Mrs. Carman's counsel, for cross-ex-
animation.
A crowd that eclipsed the previous
days throng sought to enter the tiny
court room today in anticipation of
hearing Celia tell her story.
Did Not Know Whom She Meant.
AS Celia testified Mrs. Carman sat
well back in her chair and never once
took her eyes from the witness. On
cross examination Celia said she new
er had seen Mrs. Carman wear her
kimono down stairs before the night
of the murder. She said Mrs. Carman
stood in the kitchen for ten or If
teen minutes before she passed out of
glass and the shot occurred tmme-
diately afterwards. did you know
whom she meant when she said, I
shot him p" Mr. Graham asked.
mo, 1 did not
Mrs. Carman carried the revolver,
the witness said, hidden in the folds
of her kimono when she went into
to any one, she added. She looked in
and went out in about 80 seconds.
Mrs. Carman did not express surprise
when she discovered she had killed q
woman and not q man. Celia said she
told Mrs. Carman the morning after
the murder, God will forgive any
thing but murder"
"Do you," asked Mr.. Graham, 'sbe-
lieve that God will forget your per-
jury?" !.
II know 1t is wrong to lie." said
the negress, "but I did what Mrs.
Carman asked me to do
"You are afraid Of going to jail
for committing perjury. too. are you
not?'
eyes, sir: Mr.. Smith (the district
attorney told me could go to Jail
for lying
Celia testified on cross examination
that when she was being brought
from Freeport to Mfneola to go be-
fore the grand jury. DR.. Carman told
her not to change her testimony and
that The would take care Of her.