The Detroit times., 1914-10-08
Gilman TRIAL

gan the examination of Jasnow.
ski. Wednesday, by asking him
to tell who was In Room <oe In the
Ford building whom he went there
on the afternoon Of July IS, 1919.
Jasnowski mentioned Mr.. Green, oiin.
nan. Mc0urrin. Sheridan. Mckenzie.
o'Neil. Burma. Smiley. w. J. Burns.
Gilman was seated In Q chair In
the northwest corner Of the room.
said Jasnowsh.
AFTER got there, went to an
other part Of tho room and during
that time Mr.. Burns was warning
Gilman OF his rights. There were
one or two questions between Gin
nan and Burns. stepped over 70
win give you $1,000 that he has in his
pocket and which he received for his
vote In the Wabash matter Mr.. Gin
nan put his hand TO his pocket, then
dropped IL. MT. Comm then asked
Burns II he wanted him to take the
money from Gilman. Burns said.
No. Mr.. Gilman will hand Il to YOU
Mr.. Gilman then turned over the
money to Comm. saying, That 10 the
first money I ever got'--I cannot re-
member just the exact words.
While we were checking over the
bills Burns and Gilman talked. Gin
nan asked that Brennan be sum.
moned When Brennan came In
think he shook hands with Gilman.
and they had some talk about what
went on In the committee, In ref
erence to the Wabash petition.
Then ] talked to Gilman. I told
him i wanted to get the, situation
clear In my mind. He admitted that
Brennan wanted him to assist him In
getting Wabash petitions through the
council and also that he was to get
some compensate but did not know
the amount. referred to some talk
about his getting position with the
Wabash. He admitted II, but said
II was not decided definitely.
II asked him II his statement had
been given without any coercion or
inducement. and he said. Yes. I
then asked him II he had been treat.
ed kindly and he said yes"
II next asked him why he came
over to the ONCE that afternoon. He
said he came at the request Of Mr..
Brennan to get money. He said he
did not know that he would get It.
but he came for that purpose.
asked him II he got the money
for his vote on the Wabash petition,
and he said yes I then asked MIN
II that was the money on the win
dowsill- He said yes" but did not
know the amount. again asked
him IL the statement was being given
voluntarily, and he said 'yes.'"
You say that you and Comm were
checking up the money! asked the
prosecutor.
yes"
The money, $1,000. was then pro-
duced. and Jasnowski was asked II
that was the money he saw Gilman
take out OF his pocket In the Ford
building on July 90.
Jasnowski checked over the mum.
bers and stated that exhibit No. %
was the exact money. Exhibit Is was
then given the witness. II was Jas
nowski's recheck ON the graft money
and the witness merely identified H.
Attorney Kennary then cross-exam'
tned the witness. He asked what
memoranda Jasnowski used In com
lparing his check on the graft money
Jasnowsik handed Il 70 him. saying
Il was made year ago last August.
lon Z memoranda made on the after
noon Of Glinnan's arrest. A portion
Of the original check was not made
In Jasnowskrs handwriting. He could
not remember whose handwriting
! II was. but he said he checked 1t all
up himself.
"was that the first thing you did.
to check up this money!"
mo, but ! did It very soon after
]. arrived"
Who took s. up the work when you
Il think fitzpatrick. was then
listening 70 the conversation between
Gilman and Burns"
Have you been guardian Of this
money since July rs, 1s12Yr
Yes, In . way
you put It where you wanted tor
Il wouldn't say that"
You took It out Of the prosecutors
office?"
"Yes. and placed It In q Union
Trust safety deposit Dor. This was
done with the knowledge Of the prose
cutor. think that October and not
August was the month that took
the money to the Union Trust I
think the prosecutor made the sug.
gestion and delegated me and Mr..
Comm to take over the money. The
last check was made Just before we
took the money from the once,
used my own name and money In hir-
ing the safety deposit vault"
Now, when was first knowledge
you had Of the aIdsrman's investiga-
tionr"
.July ~, Mr.. Green teIephoned me.
About O'Clock. He asked II he could
see me. / saw him In the Detroit
club. Mr.. Brennan was there. Mr..
Green did not tell me who Brennan
Was until later He asked me to 70
upstairs where he wished to Talk TO
me.
did he tell you that schemes had
been IN operation for some timer
We'll, not In that way. Mr.. Green
outlined TO me to some extend what
had been going on, then Mr.. Bren-
nan took up the explanation.
did he tell you how and why the
detectives came to Detroit"
did they tell you they had come
here TO test the alderman?"
II got that impression from the gem
eral conversation
"You say you didn't ask half . dog
en- Questions?'
II was there to get information to
carry TO Mr.. Shepherd"
Kennary continued TO question the
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