The Washington herald., 1914-08-30
Big Trades Turn Out
To Be Lopsided Deals
National League Is Famous for Its Big Exchanging AZ
fairs and Seldom Do They Pan
Out Alright.

The deal whereby Cincinnati got tn
star Of the Minneapolis team. Wade XII
lifer, recalls the celebrated deals o
trades in the big leagues and how the!
size up today.
How are the traded men progressing
Which club, now that the dust has set
tied, got stung? What teams prospere'
in the shifts, what players gained by go
ing into new surroundings. and wha
athletes lost in class or fame?
KIInE-McDonnld.
Not even an echo, hardly q memory
remains OF the deal by which Cincinnati
gave Charlie Mcdonald and cash for tn
great old catcher, Johnny Killing. Nc
Donald, though almost unequaled as {
pinch hitter, didn't seem to hold his owl
when regularly played; Boston sent hin
to the international, and he jumped q
the Federals. Killing, after giving thu
Reds his best for a little while, retired
In view OF the money given Killing, 4
looks as IL the player, and the player
only, was the winner on the deal; neither
club has one Of the exchanged men now
and. therefore. both teams might be con
sidered stung.
Bescher for HeF1oE.
The trade between New York and Gin.
cinnsti-Bescher for Herzog and Hart
ley-has panned out pretty even, al
things counted up. Bescher Is fielding
well and hitting hard. McGraw. fol
three years, was wild to add Bob's speed
to his Giant machine; he couldn't har.
monize with HerZog. and Hartley was
excess baggage. OF course, Jawn couldn't
forecast when the trade was made, that
Shafer would give up the game, but that
cannot rightfully be reckoned into the
equation. So Jawn lost a man he couldn't
control and a catcher he didn't need and
got the fielder and base runner he de-
sired. o. K.
Hartley jumped to the Feds, so the
Reds never got the big catcher they
wanted to replace John King. But Her
zog has proved a wonderful leader. a fine
batter, a splendid base thief. a corking
shortstop. The Reds, therefore, got what
they Absolutely needed most, Just as New
York did. so that this trade may be
counted pretty even.
To Reds Advantage.
The trade between McGraw and Tink-
er. though. by which the Reds got Leon
Ames. Heinie Groh. and Josh Devore for
Arthur Fromme. must forever remain a
monument to Tinker's occasional flashes
Of genius, and the evident fact that Nc
Graw can be stung. Fromme has been
used only as a relief pitcher and has been
none too lucky. at that. Ames, though
with a light-hitting club, has pitched
more ball, and better BALL for the Reds
than Fromms did for either Cincinnati
or New York Groh has played splendid
ly for the Reds, made himself regular.
bats right along with Larry Doyle, re-
h,- IN n ha
German: steals more bases and Is surely
a prettIer. neater second baseman. Both
are splendid ball players, but what a pip
pin Groh would have been TO keep at
New York, together with the Irlshman!
As to Devore-the Reds got a seasons
excellent work out OF him and then sold
him TO Philadelphia for good money:
1t is said by New York scribes that
Groh was thrown in as boot in this deal
because McGraw didn't need him-yet. a
few days later. McGraw eagerly bought
Eddie Grant for real money. when the
Reds, in all probability. would have
thrown him in along with Fromme.
Cincinnati Also StunE.
The deal by which Tinker gave Beals
Becker to the Phillies for Jack Dodge
worked the other way, and Cincinnati
got stung Dodge couldn't hit-hasn't hit
since at Louisville-and Becker. a royal
slugger, is a pillar of the Quaker club.
By giving Dick EEan for Moran and
Yingling-some money went with Ying-
ling-the Reds got the best Of things
Moran Is playing nice ball for Cincinnati
and Yingiing has won most Of his games
"A lot Of them, at that.
When Johnny Bates went TO Chicago
and Jack Rowan was told that Dayton
had him, the last echo of the famous
four-for-four deal between the Reds and
Phillies died out in, Cincinnati.
Inspection OF the Philadelphia payroll
and averages, though, shows that the
Qualers got all the best OF that far
famed trade. and that the Reds got an
awful singing when II came to long
time or marathon results. The trade in
cluded Bates, Grant, Moren. and Nc
Quillan. for Lobert, Paskert, Beebe. and
Rowan. Not one is now on the Red ros-
ter. Bates did WELL but Is gone now.
Grant fell away. faded sadly. and is with
New York. Moren's arm forced him out
before he ever pitched full game for his
new team. McQuillan was a total failure
and was fired. He made himself into
new man and q great athlete-but his
comeback was not with Cincinnati. Row.
an bobbed in and out several times, re-
turned at last to his old team, and then
departed again. Beebe went TO the
minors ere long But Lobert and Pas
kert became big factors Of the PhIIlies.
and may be counted main props Of the
club. so that the ouakers win in the
comparison. Richest part Of II aIl-Hor-
ace Fogel didn't want 10 make the trade
and Garry Hermann forced him to come
acrossi
Recent Trade with Cubs.
The Derrick-Twombiy-M -Mollwitz deal be-
tween the Reds and Cubs, by which the
Reds bought Tvombly and Derrick, kept
Twombly and sent the shortstop to Cub
Vile for the long first baseman, Is too re-
cent as yet to be Judged, but, as far as
the games have gone, II looks as II Gin
cinnah had much the best of It. Echoes
are still heard OF the famous trade by
which the Reds got Tinker for Phelan.
Humphries, and Corriden. It
would take q chess champion or profess
sor Of the highest mathematics TO figure
put the final results Of that trade cor