The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1914-02-18

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other statement which he said was
vital. On his starting to say some
thing Chairman Mauldin told him to
ask what questions he would and that
he would be given another oppor-
tunity to go on, the stand and tell
what he wanted.
Again Governor Blease warned the
witnesses not to drag the names OF
any of the female members of his
family into the matter, as they have
nothing to do with it. He said who
ever dragged in their names he would
hold personally responsible. AS far
as concerned any confidential conver-
sations he had with either DR.. Bah
cock or Col. Aull, or anything he had
said or written about the asylum, he
relieved them Of the ban of conf
dence, and told them to tell it all.
Another feature Of the session was
the testimony of Col. Aull that the
asylum commission favored the re-
tention and development Of State
park and the removal of the asylum
there, while Governor Blease favored
the sale of that property and the re-
tention of the present property in the
city. This was brought out under
cross-examination by the governor.
The sessions of the committee were
resumed at $3.50 o'clock and the Su-
preme court room was p cked to the
doors with spectators. There were
several ladies in the audience. Gov
ernor Blease, Assistant Attorney Cen
eral Dominick, DR.. and Mrs. ]. ".
Babcock, Dr.. E. B. Saunders, the lady
whose retention or dismissal appears
to have been the bone of contention
between DR.. Babcock and the major
ity of the board of regents, sat inside
the rail.
Capt. J. W. Bunch was the first
witness, his direct examination being
conducted by Mr.. Stevenson, a mem
Der of the investigating committee
The captain, who is secretary of the
board of regents, identified certain
minutes of the board, especially con-
corning the resolution to elect subor-
dinates for terms Of two years, and
on the first Of July last, he states
ten places were filed, only three
changes being made. The minutes OF
the board in executive session when
Drs. Babcock and Saunders were con-
demned, and the subsequent resolu'
tions exonerating Dr.. Saunders and
the closing of the incident by the
board, all of which has already been
printed, were related by the witness
1t was shown that Dr.. J. H. Taylor
member of the board Of regents
stood squarely behind DR.. Babcocb
and DR.. Saunders, and protested
against the action Of the board. II
was brought out also that Solicitor
J. x. Henry, as attorney for Dr.
Saunders, said he would appeal hi:
clients case to higher tribunal, .anc
that the same statement was made BY
DR.. Babcock to the board.
/ Governor Blease cross-examined
Capt. Bunch, and the governor asked
him if there was any politics in his
appointment by Governor Tillman tc
succeed H. P. Green, or il there Wa:
any politics in the appointment Of
DR.. Babcock, rising to a question Of
personal privilege, stated that wher
he was appointed he did not know
Governor Tillman, and was working
outside Of the State at the time
Young DR.. Griffin. son of the former
superintendent, and member OF the
medical staff at the asylum, wanted
to make statement, but Chairman
Mauldin told him he would be giver
a chance later to testify.
Capt. Bunch said Messrs. Carouth
ers, Bivens and Settlemeyer had tried
to put down the friction at the asy'
lum, and the governor himself haG
once come out and addressed the
nurses and helped to avert threat
ened strike.
Col. John K. Aull, private secretary
to Governor Blease. said he had taker
the stenographic notes Of the execu'
tive session Of the regents when Gov.
ernor Blease was present and the
members of the medical staff made
their charges against Dr.. Saunders
for interfering with them. He, on the
consent Of the governor, agreed tc
transcribe these notes for the com.
mittee at the earliest possible mo-
ment.
Mrs. Bessie A. Saunders, formerly
ographer at the asylum from 1910
to January of this year, and In the
capacity of stenographer was present
at the executive session of the regents
referred to above, but she found it
took an expert to take the testimony
and Col. John K. Aull being present
n this capacity, she burned her notes
after the session.
Mr.. Dominick read the testimony
of DR.. Babcock on Saturday, which
was to the effect that he, Dr.. Babcock,
had heard that Mr.. Dominick said in
the presence of Miss Allen that they
were going to get rid of him as soon
as possible. Mrs. Saunders said no
such statement was made in her
presence, nor had she ever heard MI.
Dominick discuss the matter. She
said she did not tell any one that he
| mad. DR.. Saunders asked her If she
didn't recollect telling her and she
said she did not.
Col. E. H. Aull read a prepared
statement to the effect that his ef-
forts in the matter had been those OF
the peacemaker and to bring about
harmony IN the asylum management.
He corroborated Governor Blease's
testimony Saturday. Dr.. Baocock'
questioning the witness, emphasized
the statement that any confidential