The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1914-11-11

the waters through which tney were
carried"
"Sost azsuredly they would" re-
Piled Mr.. Livingstone. yet conditions
like these are not comparable to condi-
lions brought about by municipalities.
! venture 20 say that the pollution
caused by tits number of persons
would not equal that brought about by
border municipality OF 10000 souls.
The figures which you have quoted in
clude many eXcursionists. who are not
on the lakes for more than two hours,
or Cay, at most. A municipality
offers continual dumpage of sewage,
"a hours in day. seven days a week
and 90 weeks a year"
HES your association ever attempt
ed TO dispose OF raw sewage in any
other way than through indiscriminate
dumping?" asked Mr.. Tawney.
only In a tentative way" was the
answer. "We have talked over the
matter OF conducting experiments, but
have done nothing as yet"
"NVfat would be your attitude to-
ward an international system OF regu
lation of such matters, brought about
through this commission or through
acting together?"
I'VE would be very friendly" replied
Mr. Livingstone. "Of course / can con-
ceiye OF conditions too drastic being
imposed. We might object to these
but ! can assure that as far IA posi-
BILE this association will do all In It's
power to aid In preserving the health
and safety OF residents on both sides
OF the line"
Mr. Tawney then called Mr.. Living
stones attention TO statement made
by Earl h. Phillips, an engineer of the
United States health service, to the
effect that the only possible solution
of the question OF pollution from the
dumping of raw sewage from vessels
consisted I'm the installation OF ster-
1izing device. operated by steam and
working automatically. The report of
Mr.. Phillips expressed a determination
TO try out the device on several ships
during the next season and to obtain
as many as possible for the purposes
of testing the effects OF the apparatus.
you may equip two or three OF our
boats with II, II you wish" said Mr.,
Livingstone. I'VE are willing to CO.
operate with you and we will be glad
IL some method OF averting pollution
can be worked out"
Francis King, counsel for the Do
minion Marine association, did not
appear as friendly to the work OF the
commission as did Mr. Livingstone. He
expressed the belief that Mr., Living
stone had overstated the proportion
OF pollution between municipalities
and vessels, announcing his own belief
that vessels were not responsible for
one five-hundredth of the pollution &C.
casioned by municipalities.
He declared that IL would be prac-
tically impossible TO comply with
hard and fast regulation of the condi-
tons under which vessels would be re-
quired TO dump ballast water because
OF the extreme danger occasioned in
going light"
He very frankly doubted the state
ments of government experts that
water along the lanes" or vessel
tracks through the Great Lakes was
so polluted that il was unfit for con-
sumption and carried with 1t direct
menace TO the health of sailors and
passengers.
The examination of Mr.. King began
shortly before the noon hour.
The Canadian vessel men were rep
resented. in addition to Mr.. King. by
A. W. Wright and J. w. Norcross, OF
Toronto, members of the executive
committee Of the Dominion Marine as
ISOLATION.
} The Lake Carriers, In addition to
Mr.. Livingstone, were represented by
A. w. Thomson. of the Wilson Transit
company and chairman of the associa-
tons sanitary committee. George A.
MARI. OF Cleveland, secretary of the
assoc iation. and Ralph Williams, ed
itor of the Marine Review.