The Detroit times., 1914-10-21
eeused Alderman Refuses to
Omit That He Talked About
Money. Either With Detec-
tive or Others
nHEARSEs SCENE IN
FORD BUILDING ROOM
|gosscutor Points Out That
Money Could Not Have Been
Slipped in Pocket -.

AID. "Tom" Gilman, under cross
80 from Prosecuting attorney Frazer.
Dooday mornIng. Jailed 10 remember
nnt OF the conversation that took
Ice between Detective Burns, Bren-
IAN. jRsnowski and himself in the
toft chamber after his arrest. The
eonoeraphic reports OF thuse con
variations. portions OF which were
ood BY the prosecutor. relating 20
@1missions alleged TO have been made
~ Gilman after his arrest, were
|@jther 6atly contradicted by the wit
1858 or ne failed TO remember
He contradicted the testimony Of
nrns. Brennan, Jasnowski, Coffin,
WA Dyke and High. member OF the
ocnl detective bureau, in regard to
Sshat went on and was said in the
<r1ft chamber sHrs
d % understood that the defense
ZX1u contend that the stenographic re-
Dcra prepared by the Burns opera
<1voo are incomplete, incorrect and
D0rpoDely hostile TO the defendant
1e(ions OF the reports are known 20
- favorable TO the defendants and
~ defense will likely have Gilman
1oWer "yess to questions which Me-
1mara will base on those portions
y tAe reports.
03lnnAn made general denial OF
|.U testimony tending to show he ac-
D1od, agreed TO accept or even
1Ikod IN the remotest way about
1nponsation for the good work he
"a done In the council for the Wa
nnh nilroad The witness shrewdly
U(outed himself with short. mega
Doeecutor an opportunity to follow
70 \ word OF chance explanation.
q QIlnnan, Ut the request Of the
(C6ecut0r, again described how Bren-
WI escorted him to the door OF the
1ce IN the Ford building on July
and turned him over to waiting
loer. The contention of the de-
80 u that the alderman was
|komed~ and that the $1,000 bride
cnoy was slipped into his pocket as
W. moved out OF Brennan's once.
Ihe rehearsal took place In front
Judge Phelan's private Office. AT.
In6y John p. Scallon being used as
rooper When Gilman passed out
the door. exactly as he says he
cut of the door OF Brennan's Of
the prosecutor called the atten-
~ % the jurors 10 Giinnan's LETT
ID which was pressed against fhs
Docket Of his coat In such q way
0t e would have been Impossible
anyone to have slipped $1,000 In
Ir a his rocket without his knowl-
~ While the rehearsal" was
II - ~ - <~<t
10y IN his hand. Gilman showtd
~ Jury how the bride money was
~ IN his coat pocket and ax-
1ined that he thought IL was tissue
x 01lnnan di6 not remember what las
0Ws1i told him In the graft chamber.
''D61nf you explain to Jasnowski
1T you went cur With Brennan to
~ ever the property
rIhofss true"
Ne didn't recall making ether ex-
0nnfions to Jasnowski
do you recall making an explana-
- % your connection With the Wa
noh legfslation?-
rHo asked ms question:"
& 01lnnan admitted that some of Jas
FHrDk1's staten ants srs tr'ie. but ne
tulc not recall the con .srsa.'on.
~D16n't you sxplala TO Jasnowski
1|,srt the expense % the legislation 7"
i NO 80
-D1dn't you tell Jasnowsxi about
~ Job you wantedy"
Don't remember any such CONVEX.
notio0.~
Didn't you say 10 Brennan regard.
IL
hat u was q matter Of ordinancef'
no" -
Other conversation in the graft