The star-independent. [volume] (Harrisburg, Pa.) 1904-1917, 1914-10-21
saw MRS. CARMAN With
revolver after SHOOTING

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to me, l shot him. Then she showed
me revolver, black revolver that
was about nine inches long. l grabbed
her by the arm and told her not to &c
into the office. She said she was not
going to do anything else. Then went
into the office.
Saw Dead Woman on Floor
- The body of dead white woman
was lying ON the floor near the operat.
ing chair. Mrs. Carman followed me
into the office. She stayed there about
half minute and then went out to the
waiting room. DIR. Carman was there
and so was another man. | went into
the kitchen and returned to the Office
in about a minute. Mrs. Powell (Mrs.
Carman's sister, was in there then.
Then | went back into the kitchen,
finished washing the dishes, and went
to my room to sleep.
THE next morning about daylight
Mrs. Carman came to my room. She
was dressed in night gown. She said
oh, Celia, what did l kill that woman
fors ! hope God will forgive me. You
stick to me and if anything happens
to you I'll take care of your little
boy.
Mrs. Csrman Cautioned Servant
81 saw Mrs. Carman later that
morning at the breakfast table and
she burst into tears. After breakfast
she came into the kitchen and told
me to forget that / had seen her the
night before. Later that day Mrs.
Carman came in with her lawyer, Mr..
Levy. Mrs. Carman winked at me when
he asked me what | knew. | told Mr..
Levy that | did not know anything.
Mr.. Levy came again the next
day. Before he came Mrs Carman told
me to tell him | was not down stairs
after dinner. She wrote out some
statement and l signed it without
reading it. The statement was not true.
Spiriting Away the Revolver
1.-The day after the murder Mrs.
Carman came into the kitchen and ask.
ed me to make a wood fire in the stove
which l did Later she came down
stairs with bundle of letters and
burned them up in the fire. That same
day she told me to call her father from
the barn because she wanted him to
get the revolver out of the house. Mr..
Conklin, her father, came in and went
to her room and then came down stairs
again. He had a hammer with him. He
returned to the barn. The next dav,
Wednesday, Mrs. Carman came into
the kitchen and asked me to step into
the office. | went in and the detectives
began to question me-
Didn't Tell Truth at Inquest
Ibid you tell the truth at the Cor.
oner's inquestl'' the District ATTORNEY
asked
II did not the witness answered
The District Attorney then turned
the witness over to John J. Graham.
Mrs. Carman S counsel for cross.exam.
ination.
A crowd that eclipsed the previous
days throng sought to enter the tinv
court room to-day in anticipation of
hearing Celia tell the story. Less than
zoo were able to do so and these were
nearly all women.
Mrs. Carman's S Eyes Fixed on Witness
As Celia testified Mrs. Carman sat
well back in her chair and never once
took her eyes from the witness.
On cross examination Celia said she
never had seen Mrs. Carman wear her
klmono down stairs before the night of
the murder. She said Mrs. Carman
stood in the kitchen for ten or fifteen
minutes before she passed out of the
back door and that the crash of glass
and the shot occurred Immediately aft.
erward.
Did you know who she meant when
she said l shot him7'' - asked Mr..
Graham.
'No. | did not
Revolver Hidden in Kimono
Mrs. Carman carried the revolver.
the witness said, hidden in the folds of
her klmono when she went into the of.
tice. Mrs. Carman said nothing to anv
one, she added. She looked in and
went out in about thirty seconds. Mrs.
Carmah did not express surprise when
she discovered she had killed woman
and not a man.
Celia said she told Mrs. Carman that
morning after the murder that "'Goi
VIII forgive anything but murder. -
" Do YOU asked Mr.. Graham. "be-
lieve that God will forgive your per
jury'"
II know it is wrong to Ge,'' said
the negress, ''but I did what Mrs. Car
man asked ME to do.
Doctor Would Protect Her
:" You are afraid of going to jail for
committing perjury, too, aren't you9"
Yes, sir; Mr.. Smith (the District
attorney told me l could 90 to Jail
for lying
Ceiia testified that when she was be-
ing brought from Freeport to Mineola
to go before the Grand Jury, DIR. Car.
man told her not to change her testi
mony and that he 'would take care of
her"
Mrs. Carman, she continued. gave
her an extra So few days after the
murder.
THAT is for keeping your mouth
shut, the witness said Mrs. Carman
told her.
Celia admitted that she was living
IN New York City at the expense of
Nassau county, also that she had testi-
ned falsely in many respects at the
Coroner S inquest; but she explained
that she had done so to shield Mrs.
Carman
When recess was taken she was still
on the stand.
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