The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1914-02-18
TALKS MORE FULLY
AULL AGAIN DISCUSSES The LET.
TIERS SENT BY GOVERNOR
Tells OF CONVERSATION
Report Of the Testimony Given by
Col. AuI-Recollect Remark DR..
Babcock Tried to Bring Out-Says
Woman Physician is Most Se-Vice

Following is the official steno-
graphic report Of the testimony given
Thursday by E. H. Auli Of Newberry
before the legislative committee, in
vestigating the State Hospital for the
Insane:
Elbert H. Aull recalled: Mr.. Chair
man, 7 do not care to withhold any
thing from the committee that IS OF
vital importance to the investigation
I had a talk with Dr.. Babcock and he
states that that remark which made
which is Of vital importance, was that
I said The State newspaper would
give him a good sum to get posses
sion of those letters and that If they
were published they would defeat
Blease for the Senate and elect Smith.
I do not consider it Of vital impor-
tance, but I recall that did make
the remark.
I made another remark and that
was that at least one Of the letters
was a reflection upon d.. Saunders
and If not it was at least very unfor-
tunately worded. I so stated 70 GOV.
Blease and he stated that he did not
intend to reflect upon DR.. Saunders
That is all that. I wanted to say.
will state that I had a great many
conversations with DR.. Babcock.
have been here once week on this
other work for at least two years
and have seen him every time have
been here.
Mr.. Stevenson: Colonel, there was
one question that I wanted to ask
you. Everybody took off the seal OF
confidential relation the other day as
to who 1t was doing the talking in
the home at Newberry, and think
that it is proper that we should know
who was doing the talking at that
time. There seems to be some dis
pute about 1t.
Mr.. Aull: Well, I think, Mr.. SteV-
enson, that Gov. Blease is the proper
man to do that. He is the man that
heard it and he is witness in this
case.
Q. Well, he didn't state that, but
he stated that you might tell what ne
said about it. Now what I want to
know is the person doing the talking.
A. I do not know who was doing
the talking. He only mentioned one
name as doing the talking and l
would rather he would state who that
was. If he wants to let it out, gentle
men, why, he can tell you.
@. Well, you heard him state the
other day that:you are at perfect lib
erty to state what he told you about
it.
A. Yes, sir.
O. And it might or it might not
have any bearing on this investiga-
ton?
Mr.. Hardin: Mr.. Stevenson, that
does not COMPEL him to state 1t.
Mr.. .Aull: I would rather not state
it. Let Mr.. Blease state 1t II he
wants to.
DR.. Babcock: Colonel, you refer
red to conversations that we hadr had
relative to the-your general interest
in the State hospital. I think from
your acquaintance with DR.. Saunders
YOU had formed an opinion about he1
ability?
Mr.. Aull: Oh, Doctor, I have said
absolutely, time and again, from
what knowledge I gained Of her, she
"a one of the most efficient officials OF
the institution.
@. What about her relative value
to the institution? A. What do you
mean by that? Compared with the
others.
@. Yes, sir. Within two weeks We
have had such conversation. A.
have said this, that I thought phy'
sician like Dr.. Saunders, who Is al
the institution all the time, IS Wortf
as much as three or four physician:
who go in once a day.
@. Did you name any doctors! A
Take the ones in there now.
@. In the conversation with me
YOU named several doctors. / Woulc
like to have the committee know the
names of the physicians.
A. I do not know anything aDou
the physicians. I do not know theil
capacity. But T stated the genera
proposition that one physician, who
Is there all the time is worth as nlucf
+o the institution as three or foul
who are going in once a day.
@. You don't remember the name!
of the physicians with whom yol