New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-07-15
RUNCLE SAYS MRS. CARMAN
TOLD HIM OF DICTOGRAPH

IN the name or heaven, what 90
you mean 2 ] asked, and then she told
me the photograph receiver was To-
Gated in her closet.
"'What will they think II they find
it?' she asked. What shall do about
it?
Doctor Advises Mrs. Carman.
"I talked with her about Il for
little while and asked what she had il
for. She said, 4 was suspicious of my
husbands relations with other women.
] heard he was intimate with them.
But no one knows I've got the dicto-
graph but mother and me-
"Dr. Carman was told of the dicto-
graph the next day when | was pres
5 o'clock in the afternoon. | had told
Mrs. Carman to leave the dictograph
alone, but she got nervous and took il
out that morning. | guess the dicto-
graph people got all the advertising
they wanted, but not the right kind.
Mrs. Carman was clever, tell you, in
the way she rubbed it in.
"If Mrs. Carman murdered that
woman she is the most dumfounding
actress | have ever seen. I've been a
doctor for years, and I've had some
experience in dealing with people. |
think / can tell when person Is
guilty-when one is lying to me.
tell you that no one could act the part
that Mrs. Carman did with guilt on
her.
"Of course, l had heard DR.. Car
mans reputation for being a lively
ladies' man, and gained the impress
sion from him that some enraged
husband fired at him through the
window. The funny thing about that
photograph business was that for the
last two months the doctor had been
on his good behavior. So Mrs. Car
man didn't hear anything on the in
strument but what made her feel
good.
Tells of Cutting Out Bullet.
"When I went into DR.. Carman's Of
flee / was surprised to find that no of
ficials were there. | asked the doctor
if he had notified the officials, and he
said he hadn't.
81 did cut out the bullet, as I had
a perfect right TO do as health officer.
There is new law in this state which
gives me the power TO conduct an in
vestigatiOn even in the absence of the
Coroner. The bullet passed into the
body little below the right armpit
and came out four inches above the
level its entrance in my opinion the
course the bullet would have taken IL
fired from the window"
Coroner Norton few days ago de-
clared he had directed DR.. Runcie to
remove the bullet from Mrs. Bailey's
body.
81 performed the autopsy on Mrs.
Bailey, and | tell you candidly she was
not to become mother" DR.. Runcie
said.
81 wish I'd never got into this thing,
and if I'd known what had happened
! wouldn't have gone. Every one
thinks l know a lot more than I do.
But | told the District Attorney he
wasn't giving DR.. Carman a square
deal, because / would fix the time of
the shooting. figure that the wound
would have oozed five or ten minutes
after the shooting until the blood
coagulated.
81 think it was possible for Mrs.
Bailey, though the bullet pierced her
lungs and the aorta, to have said, I'm
shot!' That is just what a fatally
wounded person would do.
81 have been attending Mrs. Conk-
lin. She has a bad heart. She is not
going to die. expect to have her well
enough to go before the grand jury
tomorrow.
GAS for DR.. Carman's trip with me
in his car Wednesday morning after
the shooting, all have to say is that
my machine was still out of order, and
| asked him to take me to Reynolds
to see a patient. The doctor went on
to a garage for more gas. I saw he
carried his black case. l saw nothing
of a pistol"