The evening world., 1914-04-01

Of 5000 TO a Mrs.. Lubrie. made two
or three years ago. and secured by
New York real estate. Also. there
was . loan to q man named stew
art, q matter Of $500. Neither OF
these loans was ever paid. 20 far ~
hs know.
The witness said that he owned
no stock in tho siegel Stores Cor
poration and no real estate.
Q. You have q house at Deal Beach7
A. Mrs. vossi has one. She bought II
eight or ten years ago.
Q. Did you directly or Indirectly
supply the money with which that
plaoe WA purchassd7 A. I did not.
Mr.. vosel said he had no bank ao-
counts now. All the money he had
he turned over TO the receivers Of the
stores.
Mr.. vogei said further that he had
never borrowed personally from the
seiesl hank. A. present he said no
owed $4,000 to the National Bank
Of the Republic. Of Chicago. This
was borrowed In stock Of Armour q
Co., Swift & Co.. East st. Louis
RtockyArds stock and Central Trust
Of Chicago stook.
OF this money he put $4,000 into
the Fourteenth Street Store. $4,000
went for the purchase VI stock In the
National Bank Of the Republic Of Chi.
cago and the remaining $4,000 went
for living expenses
Thu w.!fnsss said his lfs insurance
policies to the amount ~ 500, 900. d.
vidsd equally between the Equitable
Life Assurance Company and the
Penn Mutual Company. His wife was
the beneficiary In each rase She. he
explained. 10 living at present at No.
$500 Drsxsl Boulevard. Chicago. In
the last two years. he said. he had
given her no jewelry o. presents.
q. What was your salary from the
various enterprises In which you and
Mr.. Siegsl were intorested7 A. re-.
ceived $500 . month from the Simpson
Crawford store. $500 q month from the
Fourteenth Street store: tssS . month
from tho Chicago store. siegei. Cooper
4 Co.. and $500 q month from Henry
Biegel 4 Co. Wholesale"
Al this point the questioning was
takon ny by Samuel Hoffman who
asked what the witness and Henry
siosoi had put In" to start the sisgsl
bank.
Five million dollars Of assets"
what did these assets represent p
"stock on the several Siegel stores
which later was converted In 1910
into stock Of the Siegel Stores Cor
poration."
QUESTIONS THAT HE FEARs TO
Answer.
when was this stock placed in
the vault Of the bank for the bensiit
Of the depositorsf"
II refuse to answer that on the
ground that It might tend to inorim-
mate me-"
This reply caused . long wrangle
between Mr.. Hoffman and Vogel's
counsel. But VOgel persisted in his
refusal.
The witness testified later that he
saw In the vault OF the bank In the
spring of 1910 stock In the Siege
Stores Corporation to tho value OF
between three and four million
dollars.
Q. when was II withdrawn, 4. I
might incriminate mo.
Q. When did you last s~A this
stock? A. About six months ago.
Q. Where did you see Il? A. de.
cline to answer that.
q. Was II the same stock that the
receiver now holds. the stock origin.
ally deposited In the private bank
A. Yes. to the best OF my belief.
@. Did you know that Henry SieRel
made large Withdrawals from the
bank for his personal user A. Yes
ii q. What security. II any. did he
deposit ~ security for these loans
A. decline to answer that ON the
7 same grounds.
. Mr.. Hoffman appealed to the Com
4, missioner. who directed the witness
to answer. and Vogel replied:
e! know that he did deposit 10
curity; II was stock In the Siege
| Stores Corporation"
received $4,000 a year from tn,
{ various Siegel enterprises. but tina
. this was not enough to maintain hi
4 household In the manner to which h,
was accustomed.
ITO help out ! borrowed mono,
from Chicago banks and Mrs. Voge
J. | assisted In paying the running OK
, pensos." he added.
MRS. vooEl NOT WITHOUT
MEAko.
@. When did you last give Mrs
Vogel any money? A.. gave he
1900 or $500 last December.
oil Q. Has she any money Of her own
!. A. I don't know.
y The question was pressed by MI
. Hoffman and Vogei replied that MRS
!. Vogel has some property"
I'll q. What 10 this property A.
;, object to that question. said a shor,
u thick-set man against the wall,
% represent Mr.. Vogel and the Nelso
!. Morris family. Mrs. Vogel 10 tn
daughter Of the late Edward Morris
the Chicago packer. am Lev
Mayer Of Chicago"
This objection was sustained an
Mr.. Hoffman went of on anothe