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Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
United Press.

United Press.
VERA CRUZ. Mex, Nov. 25.-Re-
ports received this morning state that
armed mobs swarmed Mexico City last
night, looting stores, pawnshops and
other places, Hardware stores and
other places' carrying firearms were
visited and guns and ammunition ap-
proprated. Latest reports state that
civilians and mustered out federal
soldiers were sworn in as a special
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

Shippers of ores in the mining dis
tricts tributary to Durango are great
ly encouraged by the turn for the
better in metal markets and a num-
ber are making preparations to in
crease their operations this winter.
Yours truly,
f. G. GILBERT,
Manager Durango Plant A. s. G. R.
Co.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

l was the guest of honor. 1t was
bright and everybody laughed. The
next day the papers printed the
Toast to Delmay.' l wish had tax
en- every word he said as the truth
that it was and kept my money as the
poet advised"
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
MARINES
TO PROTECT
AMERICANS
United Press.

United Press.
WASHINGTON, d. c., Nov. 3d.
The transport Hancock with eighty
to one hundred marines aboard has
left Guantanamo for San Domingo
to protect American lives and prop
erty endangered by the new revolu-
tion prevailing in that country, ac-
eording to Secretary Daniels.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

TWO AND
SUICIDES
United Press.

United Press.
SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 25.-Dur-
ing a trivial breakfast table argu-
ment W. J. Hill, a retired prison
guard. when he became suddenly IN
sane, drew . revolver. killed Mrs.
L. 8. Sproles and James H. Hoquard,
then suicided, blowing his brains out.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
NAVAL
FIGHT
REPOR TED
United Press.

United Press.
ROME, Nov. 25.-A message from
Ortena reports naval engagement
near Lissa Island in the Adriatic. No
details have been received and full
news is awaited with much concern
by the officials.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

United Press.
DAVENPORT, Eng, Nov. 25.-The
christmas Ship" Jason, bearing gifts
from American children for the chill
dren of the war zone, arrived this
morning. Earl Beau Champ and Fran
ces Dyke Acland officially welcomed
the party. Every ship in Plymouth
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

~ ~ ~ ~ " ~ " " - " " ~ " " ~
Henry Slade is very busy plow-
ing.
Albert Lee was trading at the Kline
store Tuesday evening.
Mrs. Maybell Fielding was caller
on the mesa Tuesday evening.
Thos. Owensby has purchased an
other bunch Of cattle.
VIM. Gleckler visited the Kline store
Sunday.
Trapper NJ. G. Meek is getting
ready to try his luck pinching the toes
Of the sly coyote.
Mrs. Ben Slade is still visiting her
parents, Nils Evensen and family of
Durango.
Fred Real, the prosperous sheep
man, visited the Kline store Tues
day.
Claude Bellinire is trying to out
wit the coyote. We hope he will
pinch lots of toes this winter.
Ray Miller and Claude Bellinire
slaughtered a number Of rabbits last
Sunday.
Rev. Artie Greer preached at the
Mt. View meeting house last Sunday
night.
Mrs. Jennie Wannamaker, of La
Plata City, was patronizing the Mil
ler-Miller Mercantile company Tues
day evening.
w. A. Hunter, of the Hunter Mer-
camille company OF fafmmgton, was
business visitor on the mesa Tues
day.
Quite a number of the Mormons
from the mesa attended quarterly con-
ference at Mancos last Saturday and
Sunday.
Bert Taylor, of Pendleton, N. NJ,
went to Durango Monday for load
Of goods for the Miller Miller Mer-
camille company.
Clark Roberts, of Redmesa, was
very seriously hurt in runaway Sat
urday evening. He suffered a COM
pound fracture of the jaw bone and
otherwise very badly bruised and cut
up. DR.. Smith, of La Plata, N. NJ,
was called. For better treatment Mr..
Roberts was removed to Pennington.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
RUSSIAN
DUKE Is
WOUNDED

United Press.
AMSTERDAM, Nov. 25.--It is re-
ported that Grand Duke Demitri of
Russia was seriously wounded while
fighting in the Warthe river battle in
Poland.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
RICHARD
CROKER
TO WE'D
United Prsss

NEW YORK, Nov. 25.-Richard
Croker tomorrow will wed Keetaw
Kaluntchy, a Cherokee princess. Un-
til today the fact thst the bride-elect
is princess had not been revealed.
Her American name is Miss Beulah
Edmondson.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

Anselsmo Mestas was arraigned to-
day before Justice Maddox and dis
charged with a nominal fine, Mestas
to report conduct in 80 days.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
FRENCH NOW WITHIN
Ten MILES OF METZ

PARIS, Nov. 25.-The governments
afternoon official statement says the
French in the Pont-a- Mousson region
borabarded Arnzville. within ten miles
of Metz. This indicates the French
are within firing distance Of the great
fortress. The statement declares The
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

may enter at any time. The Villaites
are rapidly approaching and will soon
have control of the city it is believed.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

Germans requested an armistics at
Bahincourt, near vsrdon, was refused
by the French The statement con-
cludss: ~The Germans haven't At
tackled between Yprss and the -.
We have made some gains betvssn
LougsmArek and zonnsbeeslEs
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26
TURKS |
INTERRUPT
MESSAGES

WASHINGTON. Dt.. Nov. 25.-
Secretary of State KfyHh has ordered
a sweeping Investigation of the
charges that T5Tkey b interfering
with code messages 81 Ambassador
Morgenthau addressed 70 fhe Hmeri-
can goyerurtent. HEsafuc ~vigoropS
representations will be made.
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Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

Quite a number of the Mormons
from the mesa attended quarterly con-
ference at Mancos last Saturday and
Sunday.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

Bert Taylor, of Pendleton, N NJ,
went to Durango Monday for load
of goods for the Miller-Miller Mer-
camille company.
Semi-weekly herald., 1914-11-26

w. A. Hunter, of the Hunter Mer-
camille company of Pennington, was
a business visitor on the mesa Tues
day.
The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1914-02-20
GUTHRIE CITY CLUB DIRECTORY


Monday.
Camlridgc Club President Mrs
Gene Gano: secretary. Mrs. Chester
Marr Meets every wees. Member
ship 25 study Grand opera
Auction Bridge Clah--Mae:s every
two weeks Membership y.
Anci.on Bridge Luncheon CUB
Meets every two weeks. Member
ship IL.
NJ NJ G. Clpl,-Presldont. Mrs.
Fairfield Sc retary. Mrs Ciothief
Meets Monday afternoons Member
ship - Embroidery cluN
Monday Evening 500 ciub.-Meets
every two weeks.
Fortnlghtly Dancing Clu5--Pres'
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irst published in the Guthrie Dail
Leader, Jan. Il, 1ai4)
NOTICE TO ARCHITECTS.

| NC iGf- ~ ~ Nti<9sl 6 " ! ..
BY virtue Of the power and an
thorlty vested in us By Chapter 220
of the Session Laws OF the 1918
Legislature Of the state Of Okla
aoma
We, the undersigned. members Of
the state Capitol Commission give
notice to the public that any archi-
tect desiring appointment from us as
official architect Or who desires e
prepare plans and Specifications and
to supervise the construC ton Of a
Capitol Building for the state "
Oklahoma, shall file with us his ap-
pliaation for tho same, not later than
the Goth day of February, A. D., 1915
chat said application will receive
the due consideration and be acted
upon promptly and eacn applicant
notified OF tht results.
ANY architect CT firm Of architects
desiring to make application for saih
employment are hereby notified trsl
application must be filed with the
Commission prior to that date. M
application win he considered unless
evidence Of qualifications fitness and
ample facilities for handling the worp
promptly are submitted to the Com
mission The Commission requests
hat al communications relatinc to
eAy application be flied in writing.
By order Of the State Capitol Com
e-iesion, this The i5th day Of 5anuary
a D., 1914.
Actiag Secretary.
Attest z. W GTsT
isEAL.)
r. J. GoulDiNG.
", 3. ANTHONY.
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THE GUTHRIE DAILY LEADER FRIDAy FEBRIrARY % CO..


Il. 0. l.utz.
Tuesday.
Kenslngton Club President, Mrs.
lr. Westbrook: secretary. Mrs. C. w.
Wimber Meets every two weeks.
COO Club President, Mrs. A. c.
Dolde. Meets every week. Member
| ship t2. Sewing club
Dread Club-Prosident Miss Dot
Cooper; secretary, MIS- Grace Fer
nandez2 Meets every two weeks.
Mena9ersldpSIl sIherary club.
sAaA;esneare Glnd President, Mrs.
R, n punham secretary Mra Tom
Welch Meets every week Member.
ship 25, Study tragedies,
Tuesday Auction Meets every two
weeks. Membership s.
Tuesday Evening Club meets
every two weeks Membership l6.
ceeilian Club President Mrs.
liouseworth; secretary Miss lenoss
Burke. Meets every two weeks.
Membership zoe Music olub
Wednesday.
Current Event Club President,
Nrs Anna Dodson sorretary, Mra.
y. p porMin Meets every wees
Membership IL Miscellaneous pro-
gram
The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1914-02-20

Mother CraYM Sweet Powders for
fhildreu Break up Colds IN "a hours,
relieve Feyershness, Headache.
stomach Troubles rcething Disor-
dars. aud DESTROY Worms At all
15c sample mailed FRfst,.
Address Allen S OImsted, Letoy.
n Y.
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Brand new oliver typewriter for
safe Price $50. Latest model has
aeyer been used Apply at Leader
office
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LOCAL representative wanted. Spieh-
did income assured right man to
act as our representative after learn
ing our business thoroughly by mail
Former experience unnecessary. All
we require is honest ability, ambi-
tion and willingness to learn
lucrative business. No soliciting CT
travelling. All or spare time only.
This is an exceptional opportunity for
a man in your secticn to get into
big paying business without capital
and become Independent for life.
Write at once for full particulars
National Cooperative Realty Com
pany, L-117S Marden Building, wash
ington, d. C.
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WAN ! IT'S
CLASSIFIED
LOST AND FOUND.

LOST-Between 419 East Villas Ave,
and Boston Meat Market, small
black pocket hook, containing ladies'
watch and diamond stud; also deposit
slip from Guthrie Savings Bank. Lib
eral reward for return. Mrs Jennie
Baylor 419 East Villas, or phone S5S,
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CITY GARBAGE COMPANY
lei u '9rnish you q Sanitary Gar
hase ein and keep Il clean for you
Phone s83
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WANTED MEN TO LEARN The Bar
Der Trade. Thousands have become
successful shop owners by our system
ana send to us for barbors. Prepare
now. No limit TO term Tools given.
Wages while learning. Particulars
mailed free. NIoler Barber College
Kansas City, Mo.
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TYPEWRlTERS.
COLLECTIONS.

COILECTTON-Wo have removed 10
ia 1-o East Oklahoma Ave. We
collect anywhere or no charge We
get results because We never give
up.-E c. Miller. Phone Z.
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VAN ! | S
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HELP wANTED-MALE.

AMBITIOUS person may earn $l5 to
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for particulars. Press Bureau, o-644,
Washington, d G.
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The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
VISION MAKES HIM CONFESS.
Son Of Wealthy Family Tells Of Hav-
ing Forged Fathers Name.

Son Of Wealthy Family Tells Of Hav-
ing Forged Fathers Name.
Denver.-A vision Of his dead mother,
who pointed an accusing finger at him
In his dreams, was responsible for
Philip F. Perna. eighteen years old,
surrendering himself to the Denver DO
lice and confessing to the forgery of
his fathers name on a check for $500.
Perna claims to be the son of
wealthy Philadelphia building contrac-
tor, He entered police headquarters
and asked to be locked up. He says
he forged the check last September,
and his conscience has troubled him
since the deed throughout his six
months fight. 49,
Perna says his fathers name is Jo-
seph Perna and that the family home
is in Philadelphia. He estimates his
fathers wealth at about 100000.
II went to bed" Perna said, ''and my
mother seemed to stand over me. She
didn't say anything. She just pointed
her finger at me, and her face bore a
look Of unspeakable contempt. I
jumped up and screamed and covered
my eyes with my hands. a..
Finally ran out of doors and walk
ed miles. I knew the vision would
come back unless I'cleared myself in
her eyes. So decided 20 give N.Y.
self up" ... +
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
422 CONv|C'TS IN
KENTUCKY FREED
New Law Furnishes Serious
Problem In Blue Grass State.
ALL MUST SECURE WORK,
Indeterminate Sentence Measure Opens
Prison Doors to Men Guilty of All
Kinds of Crimes-Farmers Anxious
to Employ Prisoners, as There Exists
a Scarcity of Labor.

Hopkinsville. Ky.-Kentucky is fac
ing the problem Of caring for 422 con-
victs to be liberated at approximately
the same time and for whom no pro-
vision has been made. The prospect
IS viewed with varying sensations in
different parts Of the state In cities
and towns there is alarm, but on the
farms and plantations. where help is
scarce, no fears are felt, and in fact
the liberated criminals will be made
welcome for their labor.
This condition Is brought about by
the new indeterminate sentence law
which Is now operative in Kentucky
and which does away with the old
law by which the jury trying a case
fixed the term of years for which a
person should be confined, in the same
verdict declaring him guilty. AS it is
now, the jury merely passes upon a
prisoners guilt or innocence. and if he
Is found guilty his prison term is auto
matically fixed by the law covering
the offense with which he is charged.
These sentences, of course, range from
a specified minimum number Of years
to maximum. And it has been the
rule heretofore for the prison board,
with whom the power Of parole rests.
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
DESERTED IN 81, SHE SUES.

For Thirty Years She Lived Near Hus-
band, Unaware Of His Existence.
San Francisco Contending that she
was legally married to Hiram Hugh
son in 1860 and had thought him dead
since 1861, Mrs. F. II. Brigham has
filed suit in Modesto. Cal, for the
widows share of the 100000 estate
left by Hughson. who died intestate
three years ago.
Mrs. Brigham alleges that a year
after their marriage in Norwich, N. Y,
fifty-three years ago Hughson left his
home. saying he was going to seek his
fortune in California and promising to
send for her later. But she never
heard from him again.
Thinking him dead, she married Brig
ham and moved to Ventura, CAL, in
1880, and for more than thirty years
she lived half a days ride from Hugh.
sons home without knowing it. The
truth was revealed by accident recent
ly to man whose father knew Of her
marriage to Hughson in New York.
and the presentation of the claim fol-
lowed
Hughson prospered as rancher aft
er coming to California. In 1864 he
married Luella r. Avery. school
teacher in Stockton. The second Mrs.
Hughson. with whom he had ten chill
dren, took charge of the estate upon
her husbands death.
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
EIGHT HOUR Law
STIRS SUFFRAG|STS
Now Want Probe Of Living Cost
In Washington.

Washington.-The passage a short
time ago of the Peters-La Toilette bill
limiting the hours Of labor for women
in the District Of Columbia, exclusive
OF stenographers, to eight a day has by
no means settled the woman labor
problem in Washington. It has brought
the problem into the field of open dis
cussion, with result that more people
are talking about the problems Of wo-
men workers in the capital than ever
before. ..{<
The center of the discussion is the
District branch Of the National Con-
sumers' league, whose operations are
directed by Miss Constance D. Leupp.
Inasmuch as the activities of the Con-
sumers' league here are typical of the
kind Of work which is being done by
the same or other organizations
throughout the country. the matter is
really one Of more than local interest.
The Consumers league has laid out
a definite program of action. Having
passed the eight hour law. it is now
asking the senate to appropriate $4,000
for study Of the cost of living in the
District Of Columbia to be made by
the federal bureau of labor statistics.
Having secured officially the statistics
OF living-and a favorable report on
the resolution in question indicates
that the chances are in favor of the in
guiry's being ordered-the Consumers
league will next press for minimum
wage law E
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
URGES NEW LAW Fer INSANE.
.Alienist Tells Of Peculiar Cases Among
Women. <

.Alienist Tells Of Peculiar Cases Among
Women.
Baltimore. - Emphasizing what he
terms the mistaken impression that ex-
lists among physicians and the general
public concerning the trea tment of "bor-
derland,' acute" or chronic stages
of insanity, DR.. D. T.. Henderson be-
lieves that the only way to treat such
patients is to have them legally COM
mitted to an institution by two ply
sicians.
DR.. Henderson cites cases where pa
tents have defeated scientific treat
ment at the clinic by refusing to CO.
operate with the doctors.
Out of the 238 cases recorded as
having been treated at the hospital
between May 1 and Dec. 81, 1918,
there have been patients from all
walks of life. DR.. Henderson tells Of
one patient, a married woman, thirty
years old. who was obsessed with the
idea that she could not breathe enough
fresh air. She talked freely of her
complaints to the other patients. At
times she would take a long, deep
breath and sigh. "When 1 breathe it
does not seem to satisfy me-" She
refused to eat anything but cracked
ice and milk. She refused to cooper
ate with the treatment and was dis
charged. .-
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
BILLY SUNDAY, SUICIDE. CURE
Has Checked Dependency at U. of p,
Provost Smith SAYS.

Has Checked Dependency at U. of p.
Provost Smith Says.
Philadelphia.-The hope that re-
ligious revival would tend to prevent
suicides by students is said by Provost
Edgar F. Smith to have been among
his reasons for inviting Billy Sunday
to hold meetings at the University Of
Pennsylvania. ~ ~
Since the number of suicides in the
university began to be a subject Of
public comment Provost Smith has felt
that a religious awakening, would be
the best deterEent. $ lH [seas believed that
Sunday was sincere and that his meth
cd Of mixing religion with athletics in
the language of his discourses might
excite the students attention. :.
The results Of Sundays shirtsleeve
evangelism exceed what Provost Smith
had hoped for. Much fervor has been
shown by the students at meetings,
and Bible classes are being organized
in all departments of the institution.
The fraternities, among them Provost
Smiths own fraternity, are inaugural
ing classes for the study Of the Scrip
ture. For all this Provost Smith gives
a good share of credit to Billy Sunday.
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
OFFERS STUDENTS A CHANCE.
Government to Provide Outdoor Work
For College Men.

Government to Provide Outdoor Work
For College Men.
Washington.-The United States for
estry service and geological survey are
offering many positions to college men
for vacation work. Health and endur-
ance are the two biggest requirements
for the positions, which will keep the
collegians out Of doors the greater part
of the time. The students will have
most of their expenses paid and at the
same time draw good wages. ..
The geological survey desires to en-
plOy limited number Of men during
the summer months to assist biologists
in their field work or to serve as camp
hands. Only those who are fit mental
ly and physically for rough outdoor
work are eligible. The appointees are
required to pay their travelling ex-
penses to the field Of operation, all 9TH
err expenses incurred while under the
supervision of the survey being met by
the government. ...
The forestry service offers a more
limited form of employment. In addi-
tion to the permanent force, temporary
assistants are employed during the
summer months as fire guards or when
other special work requires addition to
the regular forest force.
Only men will be selected who are
qualified by familiarity in the district
in which the work is required. No ex-
animation is necessary, but guards
may be called upon to perform work
similar to that of a ranger.
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18

SURGEON GENERAL W. G., GORGAS, q. s. A.
the treasury, will appttsa similar rule
to the officers of the revenue cutter
service.
It is certain that President Wilson
will do nothing to stem the tide of pro-
hibition, the chief executive having
indicated his position clearly when he
asserted it is departmental question
in which he is not concerned
The president said that Secretary
Daniels had not consulted him about
the prohibition order, but that it was
not necessary for him to do So
GOrgas, who has been in South At
RIGA, installing in the diamond mines
sanitary methods similar to those in
the Panama canal zone, expressed
great interest in the new move made
by Secretary Daniels.
He asserted that officers in both
branches of the service would be far
better off if they never touched liquor
AS surgeon general Of the army he
is in position to follow the lead of
Surgeon General Braisted Of the navy
in recommending the abolition Of Off
GERS wine messes at army posts.
Secretary Daniels let remarks drop
indicating that notifications in the
order are likely to be made before it
goes into effect July 1.
There is plenty of time between
now and July said the secretary. ito
make any notifications that may seem
necessary. But the order will remain
absolute to the extent of prohibiting
wine messes or the use of intoxicating
liquors in officers quarters. clubs or
other kinds of organizations on ship
board or ut shore stations.
: II am convinced not only from what
| have seen. but from the examination
of cases that come before me daily,
that many a young officer fresh from
the Naval academy learns to touch the
first drop in these wine messes. and
not infrequently this leads to his dis
missal from the service"
The Appeal. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn. ;) 1889-19??, 1914-04-18
WOMEN ACTIVE AS
OIL LAND DEALERS
Display Keen Ability In 0per:
atiOnS In Oklahoma,

Rlnglng, Okla. - Women have be-
come among the most adept operators
in Oklahoma oil lands. In the older
fields in the southwest many women
have become rich-even millionaires-
because of owning real estate that
happened to be located within the ter
ritory where oil was found. This is
true in particular as regards women of
Indian blood. for it is nothing uncom-
mon to find women among the Chero-
kee, Usage, Delaware and Creek tribes
who have acquired immense wealth
from this source, but for women to be-
come operators and to play the game
for themselves is now being done here
for the first time. s.... -...-
In this field the same as in the other
Oklahoma fields, there are also women
land owners who are fast acquiring
wealth, and among these are women
Of Chickasaw and Choctaw Indian
blood who took their land allotments
in this locality in 1904, when congress
decided to divide the Indian lands per
capita. Oil leases here in the proved
field are selling as high as $1,000 an
acre. while in the outlying, improved
territory, high prices are given to Sc
cure oil and gas rights, and in adj
dition. too, the land owner retains an
eighth royalty in whatever minerals
may be found on the land.
The woman operator in this field
started soon after the first we'll was
brought in. about seven months ago.
She was Miss Villa Richards of Wau-
rika. at the present time the register
Of deeds for Jefferson county. the first
woman in Oklahoma to hold that Office.