The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1914-09-19
n'NAMARA "COES AFTER"
BURNS ROUCH-SHOD FOR HIS
WORK in MANY NOTED CASES

dictagraph operators and two stenog-
raphers were In the room with Gin
nan, and Burns said he had to eau
ton Mr.. Green not to talk to the
alderman.
"were you not storming around the
room. swearing and shaking your
fists?"
The witness did not remember that
he did. but he admitted that he In.
dulged I'm profanity occasionally.
Burns looked at Gilman when asked
to describe how the alderman was
dressed on July rs.
About the same as he Is now"
said the witness. 81 remember that
he went into his left coat pocket for
the money"
Concerning his conversation with
| ply informed Gilman of his rights.
"You wanted a statement?"
II did not care what he did; We
had the evidence" adding that he did
not try to "bamboozle," brow-beat or
put the alderman through the third
degree" as IL always charged when
people of that character are caught.
The witness lecture did not get
into the records.
Burns SAID that Gilman complained
that he had been "double-crossed
when first arrested. After the alder
| man 'calmed down" he stated that
he was willing to answer any ques-
tons, according to the witness. The
detective then asked the alderman
for the $1,000 bride money, and Gin
nan took 1t out of his pocket and
handed II over.
Gilman frequently conferred with
his attorneys during this portion of
the testimony.
Burns said he told Gilman that
Scnreiter had made confession and
suggested to the alderman that he
make statement Gilman was de-
tanned In the Ford building office for
over an hour after his arrest, and Nc
Namara insisted that this was done
to force" confession from the al
derman. Mcnamara was anxious to
know who were In the room when AS
sistant Prosecutors Jasnowski and
Fitzpatrick arrived. Burns repeated
that Mr.. Green and me operatives
were there. also Attorney Van Dyke
who came In with the members OF the
prosecutors star. Jasnowski secured
statement from the alderman, while
Burns was out Of the room, the wit.
ness said.
Mcnamara finally went into Burns
personal history, asking him II he
had not been arrested and indicted
In Atlanta, Ca. In the Frank homicide
case.
The witness answered that he was
not arrested, but admitted that seven
OF his operatives were on a charge
OF perjury, and that his license was
revoked In Atlanta.
My license was revoked because
l was not afraid to do my duty" add
ed the witness.
He said he personally worked on
the Frank case.
Did mob run you out OF
The question was ordered stricken
out by the judge before the witness
could attempt an answer.
Did you read the attorney-gen-
erals report to President Wilson,
asking for pardon of Jones, con-
vfcted In Seattle, Ore, because you
fixed the jury?"
Eyes"
Burns said the case was gotten I'D
by two lawyer crooks" and that the
president and the attorney-general
were imposed upon.
Il asked for an investigation by
congress- said Burns, admitting that
Jones was pardoned on the strength
OF the attorney-general's report, por-
lions OF which Mcnamara read. The
report put a great deal OF profanity
into Burns mouth.
Burns denied that a contract for a
vice investigation was cancelled by
District Attorney Whitman, OF New
York, after the detective and his men
were accused OF collision. McNam-
ara produced New York newspaper
bearing caption. Burns Ousted BY
Whitman"
do you know Mayor Dohlman. of
Omaha, and do you know the editor
Of the Seattle TimesY"
Yes, and tried to send that edi.
tor to the penitentiary."
The Judge ruled out the detectives
answer and cautioned him.
The International Society Of Po-
lice Chiefs, In meeting held June
ID, 1914, In Grand Rapids, dropped
your name because Of your actions In
the south and In Seattle, didn't they?"
Five or six crooks did that"
The Judge ordered the statement
stricken from the record, and again
cautioned the witness not to besmirch
the names OF men who cannot be
here to defend themselves.
Prosecutor Frazer argued with the
Judge that the witness ought to be
allowed to give necessary explana-
tons and objected to the lecture" of
the court.
Il differ with you," began the Judge.
All right, then we will differ"
shouted Frazer, and the Judge In some
heat said he would not be dictated to-
The prosecution objected to refer
ences by the defense to other affairs
that Burns operatives had been mixed
up In.
Mcnamara then referred to the ar
rest OF two Burns operatives In New
Orleans, but the court ruled II out.
THE dictagraph used In this case
was invented by Mr.. Turner and did
he not bring suit against your asked
McNamara.
| A series Of objections came from
the prosecutor to prevent the defense
from getting such testimony before
the jury.