New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1914-07-08
DETECTIVE BURNS
GRILLS MRS. CARMAN
81 Am Here to Find the
Murderess," He Tells
Doctors Wife.
MAN TELLS OF PLOT
TO SLAY PHYSICIAN
Informant Says Elopement Was
Planned-Mrs. Carman Not
Called TO Testify.

From a stan Correspondent Of The TrbuneJ
Freeport, July 7.-District Attorney
Lewis J. Smith will place the murder
of Mrs. Louise Bailey before the spe-
cial grand jury of Nassau County when
it convenes in Mincola on Thursday.
The case will have precedence over all
other business, even the racetrsck
cases, for which the special panel was
convened.
81 will present the facts TO the grand
jury as soon as il meets said Nr.
Smith tonight, "and | will ask 1t 10
find an indictment against the woman
whom we think guilty OF the shooting.
II this Jury fails to indict for lack OF
evidence shall not drop the case.
shall bring it before the next grand
Jury. and the next and the next after
that, until the mystery of the murder
Of Mrs. Bailey in DR.. Carman's office is
cleared away and the guilty person
punished"
The District Attorney, asked how the
case would be presented TO the grand
Jury, gave his intended plan as fol-
lows:
"The first witnesses wll.be the thrcs
doctors who conducted the autopsy, Dr.
Howard NJ. Phipps, DR.. Roy ID. Grlm'
mer and DR.. william T. II. Runcic.
"The first two will tell OF the autopsy
and of its result. They will establish
the death Of Mrs. Bailey. DR.. Runcio
will tell all he knows from the time
DR.. Carman called him on the telo-
phone the night OF the murder. dc
/ will recount all the happenings sur
rounding and following the murder.
Mrs. Carman Not TO Testify.
"The witnesses to follow the physi-
clans will be called in the same order
in which 7 would call them were this
the trial instead OF grand jury in
vestigation."
II is understood that Mrs. Edwin
Carmar will not be called TO testify,
but that all the other witnesses, with
tho probable exception OF DR.. Carman
himself, who have testified at the in
quest. will be summoned to tell their
stories. II can be stated positively that
District Attorney Smith, Sheriff Stephen
p. Petit, Chief OF Police Roland ".
Lamb and Detective William j. Burns
are unanimous in the opinion that the
grand jury will hand down an indict-
ment.
To-morrow's session OF the inquest
has now sunk into insignifiance, though
there is still discussion Of the possible
action of Coroner Norton. Should he
feel 80 inclined, he has the power to
hold any one as a material witness, or
for the action OF the grand jury. II he
chooses to exercise this right he may
succeed in complicating matters to the
embarrassment Of the District Attor-
ney.
Complications are feared also IL he
should continue to postpone the in
quest. and after finding out who are
the important witnesses the District
Attorney brings before the grand jury,
call them himself Mr.. Norton was
here o-dsy. He declined 20 say what
witnesses will be called tomorrow, or
to give any indication Of his plan.
On Thursday the District Attorney
will present to the grand jury a re-
.1ld hin. ,snasAra,v
a man who sought him out at the Elks'
Club. This man will also tell his story
20 the grand jury. According TO him,
he was one Of three in plot TO murder
DR.. Carman Tuesday night week ago.
Following is the substance Of what he
told Mr.. Smith:
Tells Story Of Love Plot.
Two men and woman were in
volved in the plot. He himself was
one OF the men; the other was his :lose
friend. He had not known the woman,
and neither had his friend. until few
weeks before the plot TO take the doc
tors life was formed.
The woman fell in love with his
friend and planned an clopemont, but
Lcfore the elopement DR.. Csrmsn was
TO be killed. His friend purchased
the pistol, and the woman actually
fred the shot, which was intended for
the doctor was killed Mrs. Bailey.
Both he and his friend were 10 get
large sums of money out of the MUIR
Ger. His friend got the money ana
has since aed the state. lie himself
got nothing, and therefore decided TO
expose the plan to the authorities
Also. according 70 his story, his friend
came here and went to the Carman
house on the night Of the shooting.
II was this man who held aside the
window screen while the woman showed
the pistol through the broken glass