The Detroit times., 1914-10-09

have you violated your oath Of ONCE
Were you not In this court for six
weeks determined to exhaust the Jury
Ipanel"
II endeavored to get jury, the
same as you did"
You made an effort to exhaust the
panel to get change OF venue?"
II endeavored 10 get a jury, using
the same questions you did"
did you not try 10 get out OF the
jury box men you knew were qualified
to be fair and impartial jurorsf"
mo. and you know IT,"
Didn't you advise In evening pa
pers that you got out OF the jury box
Jurors that were At TO SIT in the case?"
Frazer objected to this sort OF cross
examination. adding that the purpose
OF the defense was TO involve the
whole issue In mist and to keep
away from the vital questions in the
case.
Mcnamara objected to some OF the
remarks made by the prosecutor In
the presence OF the jury.
I'VE are asking the questions &c
test the credibility OF the witness"
said Kennary.
Judge Pheiar asked on what theory
the question would be competent and
material. Kennary repeated his rea-
son.
THAT puts another phase to the
credibility OF the witness" said the
Judge. ruling the question out as In
competent.
Il will listen to any authorities you
wish to produce" added the court.
Kennary continued:
Are you acquainted with Mr..
Pipp?"
Yes"
Prior or on April IA, 1914. did you
have an interview with him."
Don't believe did"
did you visit his ofice?"
IL have no recollection Of that date"
did you have conversation with
Mr.. Pipp about the Gilman case?"
NO"
did you have conversation with
him about the way and manner In
which the case was being handled ?"
"No."
WAS the Gilman case any part OF
the subject natter"
What's the purpose Of this ?" asked
the court interrupting.
1T may be material for purposes OF
impeachment" said Kennary.
Kennary's questions indicated a re-
latior between this alleged interview
and the recent attack made by the
newspaper on Prosecutor Hugh Shep-
herd. then Jasnowski's chief.
At this point Kennary said II would
be necessary to halt the trial to secure
for presentation to the court neces-
sary authorities upholding the line
of questions by which he would seek
TO attack the credibility Of the wit
ness. basing the questions, he said,
on statements made from time to
time by Jasnowski.
Frazer argued that the question
was not proper one for the court
to pass on at this time, as the ques-
ton did not affect the selection OF the
present jury.
Mcnamara then charged Jasnowski
with attempting to railroad Gilman
out Of the county for trial.
He even made statements to the
governor OF state" said Mcnamara.
And to other individuals that Il was
his motive to have change Of venue
to a another county In order to more
easily railroad this respondent to pris-
on. He has even gone so far as to
make afEdavits and In his endeavor
to further his motive. he even had the
former superior removed from ONCE. I"
Frazer showed that the remArlks OF
McNhmara regarding mis- assistant
were untrue and asked that the re-
marks be stricken from the record
The jrdge ruled out the question now
lost sight Of and ordered the remarks
stricken out Of the record.
The court refused to adjourn to give
the defense an opportunity to argue
the law on the point. Kennary then
asked for the memoranda prepared
by Jasnowski
The Judge said he would enter the
order and directed Frazer to proceed
with his redirect examination. The
afternoon sessions as ,.aoon as the
prosecution rests its case.
In answer to Frazer's first ques-
ton. Jasnowsh said that the graft
money was kept In the vault Of the
prosecuting attorneys ONCE until Oct.
rs, 1919: then II was placed In the
Union Trust Co.'S vault. Jasnowski
said Gilman never made, In his hear
ing. any claim that the money had
been placed In his pocket.
Frazer sought to again question the
witness on the three important ques-
tons he asked Gilman, but the court
ltuled Il out. Jasnowski said Gilman
lold him the money he received was
] br his services and his VOTE"
In the county building, Jasnowski
said, Gilman agreed to assist him
In talk he wanted to have with
other aldermen.
County Detective Duke" CONN.
who was one of the officers present
at the arrest Of Gilman. was next
called to the witness stand. His testi-
mony regarding his connection With
the case on July 26, was similar 20
that given by Detective Bert High.
who accompanied him that day.
when arrested Gilman, he said,
Where do you want me to go?'" said
Conn. Burns told me to take him
in room No. 40S, and Gilman sat
down in the first chair he came to-
CONN substantiated the testimony Of
Jasnowsh as to what took place In
the once after Glinnans arrest, de-
scribing how Gilman handed the.
graft money over to him on being
told to do 30 by Detective Burns.
CONN said he counted the money and
checked It up with Jasnowsh and
Fitzpatrick. Frazer showed the GER
tincates to the Jury, explaining the
check marks.
Conn checked over the money I'm