The Washington times., 1913-06-03
PENROSE ON STAND,
h GIVES l75 NAMES
Pennsylvania Senator Declares
f.. He Thinks interests Should
Il Give Tariff Views.
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into the Payne bill. Senator Penrose
us that the roster of the army of
veterans to whom you referred recently
In the Senator asked Senator Reed.
175 who had seen him.
ITS only a partial list. Most of the
veterans are discouraged and are stay
ing at home" said Senator Penrose.
Senator Penrose said that lobbyists,
as known ten or twelve years ago, have
disappeared.
The race has died out" he said.
Formerly resident representatives
were kept here but that was largely
done away with.
the third witness. told of the conversa-
tons he had had with parties on the
tariH. He mentioned c. Z. Bergman.
whom he had talked with about Cuban
whom DE had talked with on citrus
fyuits: . Mr.. Davies. who had talked
about Colorado beet sugar matters. He
had not been improperly approached.
He carried various life insurance poll
cies. and had received various notices
about the effect of the Underwood bill
on the insurance companies. He had
received number of letters from
persons who said they had no objection
TO tax on the insurance companies, as
their dividends were so small as not
to amount to anything. He had small
stock and real estate holdings.
Senator Fall Testifes.
was interested in wool as a sheep
grower. and in sheep.
I'm raising about 1000 head of
GheRn I'm Interested n Ca
with my son-in-law to the extent of
about Loo head
Senator Fall said he also had horse
and coal interests and was interested to
some extent in mining in this country
and Mexico. He said he had $1,000
worth OF life Insurance stock, had a life
insurance policy and about $l5.00o bank
stock He was interested in the income
He said ne was also concerned in
Il have not been lobbied with, nor
mas anyone attempted to convince me
OF the errors Of this bill, except that
certain cattlemen have discussed the
- q cattfeman and also the matter of
inspection"
Names cattlemen.
Senator Fall named several we'll
known Texas cattlemen who had seen
him. including Judge Cowan. of Fort
wv NCSA CtATy. OF luG
National Live Stock Association, and
others Several Zinc men had talked
70 him
Ing the duty" said he. II don't think
the Zinc trust cares particle whether
zinc Is on the free list or not It owns
mines in Mexico and IL zinc Is free it
Will shut down the mines here and go
70 Mexico. It Is now buying mines In
Mexico and shutting them down In the
United States"
Senator FAN knew of no corrupt lobby.
He said, In answer to questions Of
Senator Reed, thta free wool would hurt
the wool business and sheep business,
ut least for a time.
Senator FAN was questioned by Sena-
tor Reed as to the Zinc trust. He said
there was a trust and IL controlled most
Of the zinc deposits and the smelters
in this country.
Senator Gronna of North Dakota was
prior to the recess. He said he owned
about 5000 acres of land in North Da-
kota, and to that extent was interested
In the tariff bill. He believed that free
able damage. and that free fax and
barley would hurt him worse He
thought the millers had been unfair to
the farmers because the attitude of
the millers was that SO long as the
duties were equalized they did not care
whether wheat was free or not On
the other hand. free grain would compel
the farmer to take lower prices for his
product
He mentioned John Crosby and
Charles Bovee as representatives of the
milling interests who had been to see
him.
Senator Dillingham; declared the most
powerful pressure brought on him as
Senator was through round robin"
letters. Whenever liquor questions or
reform questions or labor legislation
came up. he said, he was deluged by
s,tte such letters. M The opposition to the
was inspired by the shipping interest.
The senator testified that he had not
come into contact with any lobby in
existed.
First To Testify. "
When the committee opened this
morning Senators Mclean of Connec-
ficut and Dillingham; We're the first wit
nesses. Neither was able to shed much
light on the question Of whether a cor
rupt tariff lobby is in Washington at
this time. Senator Mclean told of own
Ing several hundred shares of General
Electric stock, and Of owning stock in
the National Biscuit Company and sew
eral ether concerns. He gave the names
OF ABOUT a dozen men who had been to
see him with reference to Various
schedules Of the tariff bill. He knew
nothing of any improper lobby.
Senator Dillingham; said he was a
director In the National Life Insurance
company. OF Vermont. but was not in
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18th TO Sept. 18th. valid for return until
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