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The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
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A SQUARE DEAL
IN DENTISTRY
What the Success Of a Den
list Depends on
BY EDWIN J. BROWN,
7f3 First Ave, Union block

when I bought the Brown Dental
Prices In the Union block. ia First
I've. on July IS. 1901. there were
pot mora than three dentists in
ssattls who did not say that Brown
you'd not last three months The
lake Advertising offices then. as
BOW. were knocking other dentists
order 20 deeoy the public 10 thslr
Ind drilled (for their monsyJs
Tne more honest and better class
pf Dental practitioners contsnded
FRAT high class dental work could
hot be done for the prices I
charged" and they were correct nm
less / could get large amount Of
work 20 do. The rule had been for
the Advertising dentists to 20 after
their patients like a fox after chick
ems tbe smart and get the money!.
GIVING A SQUARE DEAL PAYS.
made up my mind TO live in
heattle the remainder Of my life and
90 my best, 80 that could look
rvery person In the face--friend and
foe alike. knew was not as
smart az some dentists and I aid
not figure only on making money.
wanted 70 be successful, of course,
ana / could not understand then
and cannot understand now how a
Dentist could be successful unless he
gave everybody square deal I
knew that hundreds of people
WnhtfI NNMAAA NpFk WHO EOul1 not
pay high prices. and they never
would come back unless they zot
good work and q square deal
THE SECRET OF MY SUCCESS.
i attended to my own business.
Ny prices we're and are right and
my work was and IL right nv
prices brought the people and nv
honest work and service has kent
my patients with me. until today 1
require twelve dental specialists ana
seven lady assistants. sixteen opar-
stfnR rooms. three extracting rooms
and special hospital room, special
reception room for ladies' and also
one for gentlemen and a special de-
partment for each branch Of dent
istry. and yet my prices are the low
est In the world and my work IA as
good as you can get in the world
because all materials are the heat
and workmanship IA uneKceiled. and
This IL the secret Of my succesg and
any dentist could do II IN he yVo,,id
. could and d!d do Il. and The faet
that right hers in Seattle I have 10
brgsst private dental praetiea ~
ehe world 10 the proof 81 nv garv-
re 70 the people. and shall snn
uaue 70 do In the future az I nav.
E. 10 past. give square deal in
Csnustry and guarantee my work.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
BAT NELSON SAYS OLD JOE
CANS WAS BEST OF EN- ALL

Bat Nelson. former lightweight
champion. names Joe Cans as the
best lightweight OF all time. He
says there is not n lightweight In
the ring today who IN near tho equal
Of tho old eoiored scrApper.
Cans had everything" said Mel
son. s'He was ring general. fast
and clover, and know he could hit
lie was 80 clover and figured things
out 80 well don't believe he ever
moved n hand or arm more than an
inch without having some good rea-
son for doing 30. A lot Of fighters
fool around with their hands and
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
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ANDERSON NAMED
FOOTBALL LEADER

complete surprise was sprung
at the university Friday. when the
nowiy-crcated nomination commit.
tee. which has charge OF the cleo
ton OF the football captain at the
U. selected Herman Anderson.
guard. for the position. Anderson
was not n candidate.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
ROMEO HAGEN OUTPOINTED
BY BILLY WEEKS In FRISCO

Frankie Smith 20 a FRAGILE Ia the
last three rounds OF their fourround
bout here. and Is today cunning for
more prominent foomcn Hoppe
took enough punishment in that
opening stanEa to cripple a whale.
but IA the succeeding rounds had
Smith hanging on.
Battling Kirk beat Willie Robin
son. I'D Kennedy outpointed Mark
o'Donncll OF Portland. Jack lorrick
stopped nlll Pennington In round.
Jack Goyer outhoxed RUFF Cameron.
Percy Cove won from Jimmy Regan.
Joe stanton won from Blackio
Mitchell. XII Bertelson won from
Joe Wilson.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

arms Just 10 look fancy.
Jack Dritton OF New York is the
bestlooking lightweight have seen
In recent years" said Bat I have
not seen Willie Richie. the cham.
pion. so can't give an opinion on
him. Britton has II on Rivers.
Mandot and the others who are az
tor the lightweight title"
Nelson says the hardest scrap he
ever had was with a dub. Chris;y
Williams. a negro. whom he met
early In his career. Bat says vii.
liams came nearer handing him a
knockout than any man he ever met
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
HERE'S NEW LINEUP
OF LEAGUE UMPIRES

ny United Prsss Leased wir.
PORTLAND, Ore. Jan. 70
Jimmy Toman. who served as UNI
piro In the Northwestern league
last year. has today returned his
signed contract. accepting the same
position for this season. II was re-
ported that neither George Van
Haliron nor Augie Moran had been
offered contracts, but that their
places would be filled by Ralph
FrAry. former Northwestern
league player. and Jerry Eidinger.
last year an umpire in the Three-i
league.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

SAN FRANCISCO. Jan. 60
Romeo Hagen. the Seattle welter-
weight. lost 60 billy Weeks of Calf
fornia In four rounds here last
night Weeks had the Seattle fight.
err outpolntcd throughout the entire
four periods.
Despite tho fact that he was
fioored In the opening round. Willie
Hoppe came back and walloped
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
COMPANY B WINS
ARMORY A. c. MEET

Armory Athletic association meet
was won by Company b Friday
night Company y took the meet
with 81 points. Campbell and Koes-
ter gathered In the majority OF
scores for the winners. -Four races
found the fleet Campbell first TO
reach the line. Rooster ran the
prettiest race OF the evening when
he finished first against n fast
field The other teams scores
were. Company l., 81. signal
corps, 10: Company A. g.. Company
ID. 3.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
WELSH'S MOTHER
DIES; TRIP is OFF

by uni,~i Press LsA4sd wir.
NEW YORK. Jan. 25.-Owing 10
the death OF his mother. Freddie
Welsh. lightweight champion OF
England. II In announced hera-;oday.
has postponed his trip to this
country. lie intended 10 start for
New York after tho bout between
Owen Moran and lem DriscolI a,
the National Sporting club in Lon
don next Monday.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
DERBYSHIRE HEARS
THE BRIDES SING

SAN FRANCISCO. Jan. 25.-DIs.
playing n straight left that would
have driven pile. Bobby McAllls.
ter. middle and heavyweight ANA.
teur champion OF the Pacific coast.
put Ted Derhyshire OF the Mutt.
nomah club. Portland. away in two
rounds at the Olympic club tourna.
ment here.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

Another St Mary's college player
VIII cast his fortune with the
worlds champion Boston Red Sox
team. He Is Dutch" Leonard, Tor.
mer star twirier Of the Catholic col
lego. Leonard halls from Fresno.
Last season. with Denver. Leonard
won 2g games out OF "a.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

TRAINER KEENE FTTZPAT-
RICK. one OF the best trainers in
the country. Is to have charge Of
the Princeton football eleven again
this year. Fitzpatricks work is
responsible for the good showing
OF the Tigers.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
JOE COIN GETS ORT

by unitsa rrs.. f,sassd Wire
SPOKANE, Jan. 25.-MAnaEer
Joe Cohn OF the spokane North,
western league has today signed
George ort. former Coast player
10 be a member OF his aggregation
Ort Is first naekcr and last year
played with Kalamazoo In tns
Michigan State league.
II was Ort who two years ago
while member Of the Seattle
team. took a punch at Jakey Baum
GARNER. which floorcd tho little IN
dicAtor man.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

TRAINING TRIP OF tho Chicago
White Sox 10 California will cost
President Comiskey In tho neigh.
borhood Of $4,000. Forty men will
make the trip and 90 OF them will
be players.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

UNIVERSITY OF WASHING
TON athletes will be allowed to
compete with various Seattle clubs
by n resolution passed by the
board OF control As n result, ar
rangements are already under way
for wrestling matches and base
ball games with private clubs. A
wrestling bout with tho 8. A. G.
has been scheduled to take place
about April ! in the clubs gym
naslum The baseball team Will
probably make trip TO Canada
during the Easter holidays.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
BITS O. SPORT
BY Fred Henry.

FIRST METHODIsTs VS.. Ere.
mont Baptists and First Christians
vs.. Birst Baptists. are basketball
games scheduled at the Plymouth
church gym tomorrow night.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

Rob,. N. Hogse,t, end. who has
been elected captain Of tho Dart
mouth eleven. Is u junior. and has
been n ~ man for two years. he
is a classy end. and 10 sensation
Al field goal booter.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

PRESIDENT LYNCH has noti-
fled Hank ODay that any time
Hank wants to 90 back 10 arbl-
trating. just to say the word.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

The annual International Scot
land vs.. England will likely be
pulled 'off on Dugdale's park on
Feb. 2. What would be your Sc.
lection 20 represent the land Of
your birth? Send it 10 the writer.
soccer Headquarters. 4lg PIKE g..
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

WITH THE football rules com
mite 10 meet late this month. no
revolutionary changes are looked
forward to.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

Potter Robertson played won
derfpl defensive game for the
RANGERS last Sunday, and even sur
uri8ed his many ardent admirers.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
BLOOD POISONING PUTS FEATHER
CHAMP KILBANE OUT OF BUSINESS

CLEVELAND 2se--Beoauss he picked at boil HE
Of too clean gloves while boxing recently
Johnny kbano champion today suffering from
poisoning kbane Will not be In condition fight fer several
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

NNNAnh 70 tetAAHf pain or
aiimont No need Of doctor
f. a remedy that helps natur
You know that electricity Is
that digcsts your food aud
converts Il into blood and
bone. tissue and muscle. and
supplies the brain with power
20 think n r. electricity that
keeps your heart going. your
blood circulating and the vari-
oua organs performing their
functions like 50 many ma
chimes
N you are sick or weak. II
you have rheumatism, iumba. .
go, nervous debility. loss OF
vitality. or stomach. liver. Kid
nay or bowel trouble. Il means
that some part OF your body
machinery needs electric en-
ergy. Electra vita viii re-
store a.
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

your stomach with drugs.
overcome some chronic
ana drug bile. for here
cure
life-the mysterious force
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25
Words by Schaef.
Music by Condo

II you can't call wen the book. closely scale
absolutely free. offtos hours a. 10 p M MeaH,
day and Saturday evenings tin s sundays 10 % !
The Seattle star. [volume] (Seattle, Wash.) 1899-1947, 1913-01-25

CLEvELAND.-RoBT. MLEAS.
Of Chicago. amateur champion.
smashed another record Friday
night when he HkAtod half a mile
In a match race In 1913 Is.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
Figures of Doctor Wayson Result
in Confusing Question and a
Conference With Directors of
Home Is Decided Upon.

There is wide discrepancy in the
figures presented by the trustees of the
Leah Home and those compiled by City
Physician Wayson, with the result that
the health committee of the board of
supervisors last night decided that
conference between the two would be
necessary in order to come to. proper
understanding of the financial needs of
the Home. Until satisfactory under
standing is reached the health commit.
tee is not disposed to increase the city
appropriation from $3.50 to $500.
The apparent difference caused Super.
visor Mcclellan to propose that the
city investigate the proposition of Il
tent colony, proposed by Doctor Way
son, which would lessen the cost ma.
terially to the city. Doctor Wayson
expressed the opinion at the meeting of
the committee last night that an. army
medical officer could probably he Sc
cured to assist in laying out sanitary
camp for tuberculosis patients.
Doctor Wayson had gone over the
report submitted by A. w. r. Bottom
ley, Treasurer of Leah Home and figured
ihhb Nh'it WcIt III luDeTcuiOSlS pa
tients and Is non.t,iberculosis patients
received during the past year. While
the Lenhi Home figures appeared to be
based on each patient being there for
1868 days in year, DIR. Wayson stated
that he found from the same report
that the average number of days for
each patient in the institution was sew
enty-seven days. He stated that III
patients, each remaining seventy.seven
days, would represent a total of 1929
hospital days. At $40 per day, this
would make total of $13,060 The
eighteen neutrality-suspicious. patients each
there seventy-seven days, would make
total Of 1897 hospital days. At $l.40
per day, this total would be about
Sl942. The total of both classes would
represent n cost of $4,000. The total
hospital days was III ,7l6.
The treasurer of the Leah Home re-
ported that the income of the institu-
tion has been $4,000 year, of which
about 81 900 was income from invest
inents of the original endowment and
the remainder territorial and county
contributions and general subscriptions
Doctor Wayson said he was strongly
of the belief, If his method of figuring
was correct, that the institution does
not need more money.
Both Messrs. Mcclellan and Wolter
were of the opinion that there was
such difference in the results of az
uring that only correct answer could
be obhined by a conference with all
concerned. Chairman Woltcr will ask
the trustees TO meet with the health
committee ut an early date,
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
(Ry Federal Wireless Telegraph. J

DOUGLAS, Arizona, July p (Spec.
ial to The Advcrtiser) -Guaymas was
today again torn by the contesting
Federal forces and Constitutionalists
!. Early in the day General Oieda of the
Fcderals returned with two gunboats
and heavy rcinfOrtements. 81
Protected by the fire of croosote guns
from the Federal vessels, General
Oieda was able to accomplish safe
landing. Immediately following the
landing of Oieda forces the populacc
of Guaymas opened an indiscriminate
fire upon the Constitutionalists, TEN.
Porarily dcmoralizing them. Only Gen
eral Oregon 5 superb courage and pres.
ence of mind saved the rebels from ut.
ter rout. ObregOn rallied his men and
late today n fierce battle ragged with
the outcome in doubt.
Realizing the futilty of Oieda S
plan to retake the entire state of So
nora, the foreigners here are urging
him to abandon his project and leave
Guaynas to the rebels.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
(By Federal Wireless Telegraph.)

(By Federal Wireless Telegraph.)
WASHINGTON, July Especial to
The Advertiser David Lamar, New
York stock broker, testified before the
committee investigating President vii
son s "insidious lobby today, admit
ting that he had unprecedented congress
men and others of national fame in tele-
phoning to officials of the Hartman
lines on behalf of Edward Lautcrbach,
an attorney.
Lamar insisted that he was asked
to do so by friends of Lauterbach, and
that he only wanted to secure for the
lawyer "perfectly legal employment -
Lamar said he telephoned to Robert
Lovett, chairman of the board of di-
rectors of the Hartman lines, and Paul
Craval, the New York Banker, repre-
senting to each of them that he was
representative of Congressman Rior-
dan of New York. Lamar declared that
the opposition of the late j. F. Morgan
to Lauterbach led him to telephone
Ledyard in the name of Palmer to find
out who inspired the opposition to Lau-
terbach
81 found out it was Ledyard him
self, - SAID Lamar. 81 knew, too, that
Ledyard had stenogfapher on. the line
recording our talk, and you may be sure
] read nearly everything into it | could,
/ think | offered him the entire gov
eminent. / may have left the Presi.
dent out.
Judge Lovctt s statement con
tinued Lamar, "that Lauterbach tried
10 blackmai him is untrue. Lauter-
bach is little man with a big heart;
he is a man who cannot keep a dollar
in his pocket because he cannot bear
suffering. Mr.. Chairman, | will tell
You of the greatest bit of lobbying the
world has ever known. In 1901 some
one forgot the books Of the Union Pa
cific to the tune of $50, 100000 | do
not know who was responsible, but that
sum was the fulcrum through which the
most gigantic combine in the country
was formed.
Lamar then detailed n complicated
system whereby il is alleged the Union
Pacific iuggled its assets and then Dor
rowed its full value on fictitious prop
erty Referring to the Riordan-Loyctt
conversation, Lamar said he used Rior-
dan IS name because sit just came
TO me- -
Lamar admitted he also used Con.
gresham Palmer 5 name in telephonimg
TO Ledyard. He said he happened 10
use il because Palmer then was in the
public eye and prominent in admins
tratiOn affairs
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
lBy Federal Wireless Telegraph

NEWPORT, Rhode Island, July q
Especial to The Advertiser) Col. Theo-
dOre Roosevelt today dealt with un-
gloved hands with the senators aud
congressman who oppose the appropria-
lions for at least two new battleships
annually, in a speech before the Pro
grcssive conference. every senator
or congressman, whatever his party,
should be regarded as unfaithful to the
public interest and false to his c0un-
try if he fails heartily to support the
program of providing every year for
two battlcships of the most efficient
type and for whatever other vessels
and ammunition are necessary aces
series of these two battleships, - de-
clarod Roosevelt.
He asserted that there are certain
policies so vital to the welfare of the
country that they rise above questions
of ordinary party differences and in
sisted that the upbuiding of the Navy
is one of these questions
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
Military Day.
Supervisors Vote to Spend $15,62E
in Equipment-Figure to
Save Money.

Determined to add to the automobile
equipment of the city and county, the
board of supervisors yesterday author
lied by resolution, the purchase of two
automobiles and two fve.ton auto
trucks, the latter for use by the road
department.
Mayor Fern and the supervisors will
be provided with 1913 Cadillac tour
ing ear, for which the Won Hamm.
Young Company is. to receive $2225
The ear now in use ly the mayor and
supervisors will be held in reserve for
The various departments of the city.
Chief of Detectives McDulfie and his
men will be equipped with a big new
Chalmers ear. The present machine is
too small for them, it is stated. II
viii he repaired and allotted to Sheriff
barrett, and his car will be received
in trade for the Chalmers, at $500
The sum of 5000 will be expended in
acquiring the Chalmers and in renew
ing the motor equipment of the police
department.
Two fve.ton Packard trucks capable
of hauling five-ton trailers will be pur-
chased for the use of the road depart.
mcnt at "a cost of Sll 200. At the pres
ent time the road department is rent
ing twenty-seven, mules, one-third the
number of total livestock used, at a
cost Of 1925 month, while the care
aud feed of the animals make the
aggregate over $500. II is estipated
that the trucks can he operated for a
total of $500 month, including six
per cent on the investment, so that
. the road committee felt that the saw.
ing in the future would justify the
present expenditure.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
lRr Fcdernl wlreless rclrrrnrh !

WASHINGTON, July 9. - Especial
to The Advertiser) -Furiously angry at
the Mulhall charges of corruption, Il
score of Republicans bitterly denounc-
ed Mulhall at an Indignation meeting
of the house today. Besides the dcnunci.
ations Congressman Medley Of Kansas,
Nolan of California and Sherry of Ken
tucky introduced resolutions demanding
an investigation of Mulhall and his ac-
eusations. BY ote of 81 to 80 the
house referred to the rules committee
all resolutions demanding a probe.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04

LONDON, july 2.-(special to The
Advcrtiser) ~ The breach of promise
suit instituted by Daisy Markham, an
actress, against the Marquis Of North,
ampton, ended abruptly here today,
when Sir Edward Carson, Miss Mark.
ham s attorney, announced that North
amptop had agreed to pay the actress
S25O,0Oo. All action against the noble.
man WAS thea withdrawn.
just before the suit was withdrawn,
Sir Edward read the last letter the
Marquis is alleged to have written to
Miss Markham. 1t professed love for
the actress, but declared his father had
convinced him that society would not
receive Miss Markham aud that the
marriage would make her life misor-
able.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04

BELGRADE, servia, July o2.-(sper
cial to The ADVERTISER Field dispatch
es from Uskub received here today say
that the Servian forces are pursuing
the Bulgarians along the entire bat
tlefront and have secured several i'm
portant positions.
Servia has modified three armies.
The north army numbering $4,000 men,
is on the Danube between Prot and
Nisch, the south army of $4,000 men
is drawn up between Vranja and Kra-
toyo, and the third army, commanded
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
BROTHERS OF MADERO
ATTACKED-ONE DYING

NEW ORLEANS, July g. especial
10 The Adyertiserl Dispatches Teeeiy.
ed here today from San Antonio, TeKas,
state that Rnmoul aud Julio Madero,
brothers Of the late Francisco !, Ma.
dero, President of heSiro, were attack
ed ln resort here Monday pight julio
Nadoro u reported DYING With o fmc.
tuned skull
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04

AEWluhT Rhode Island, July E.
thpeeial "a Tbe AdleHisef) The bat
lleship l.opislana commanded hy ouw
Tfmpllp N roiif. gar heuehpd on ihp
nufi fiir ~ i'unnuifui irlnnd in Anf
fnglHseii liay the aiirfnoon herluae
NJ 900 HrrIirni i0 ihr lnlrrlor valve
nNlfh rHutrd lhp epglnp Iopm 30 hll
Hiil NaipE
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
(Mnil Special to The Advertiser

HILO, juno 3O.-A japanese laborcr
was killed at the Ookala plantation
railroad track north of the mill camp
on Thursday, June 49, lie was working
ON the platform whore the bundles of
cane are received AZ they come down
from the upper fields on trolley wire
when one Of, the bundles swept him off
the platform. He fell on his head, frac
turing the skull.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1913-07-04
Wilson Considered a Joke.

"1'he present Democratic party or
ganifation in Hawaii, as represented
by Johnny Wilson is considered more
or less Of pitiful joke, and the party,
as it stands in the Territory is in urgent
need of reorganization.
Secretary Lane informed me on the
eve of my departure that he had made
no recommendations whatever concern
ing the Goyernorship, for the very rea-
son that the President had Informed
him, that he intended TO he personally
responsible for the appointments of the
Governor of Hawaii, and Alaska and
did not desire any recommendation
concerning these posts
taking everything into considera.
tion, feel more than reasonably Ger.
tain Of the success Of my candidacy.
The appointment may be made in II
week or II may be delayed for some
time.