Arizona republican., 1913-06-09
In Six Days Chilling to Which It Has Subjected Senators, Investigation Committee Has Secured Much Information
NEW CHANNELS
 ARE OPENED UP
Seems Certain Now That Congress Will Be Urged to Consider Law Reqllir- ing Lobbyists to Register in Washington
ASSOCIATED PRESS DISPATCH

ASSOCIATED PRESS DlSPATCHl
 WASHINGTON, June S.-Neither President Wilson nor democratic man agers of both branches Of congress could estimate tonight the effect of the senate's remarkable lobby investigation will have on the progress of the tariff currency reform and other business be fore congress In the six days grilling to which it has subjected the senators the investigation committee has SC { cured information and opened channels of investigation that likely will have an important influence upon the whole course of the legislation in the future. The progress of the tariff bill has not been hindered by the investigation, but it is believed tonight that before the reconstructed bill finally gets into the senate for debate the investigation have become a direct issue of the fight ] It seems certain that congress will be urged to consider the registration law requiring lobbyist and others who come
 to Washington to influence legislation identify themselves and the interests represented. Condemnation and pos sible prohibition of the present system of manufacturing sentiment is prob able. The senate has agreed to extend the time limit for the lobby investigation i twenty days, or until June 2S. The new element injected into it will carry the questioning of senators over into 1 the coming week. Features of the SO ] called Iobbies on sugar, wool and met i als and liquor, labor and other legts- i lation must them be taken up as the ! second stage of the investigation. | Senator Townsend's statement a day ! or two ago in relation to President Will son were not in the form of charges. l He expressly said today he did not 1 then charge the president with using i improper methods; but he insisted that the charges that Hobbies existed. and the activity of the president in support of free wool and free sugar amounted to an undue influence even though he did not use the ''big stick of patronage.
 As the term lobbyist is generally understood" he said, and as I believe !; it was used by the president in his
 recent statement upon which this in
 vestigation was founded, it means one
 who tries to secure or prevent legisla
 tion by the use of means that are inn proper: by the offer or payment of money, the granting or withholding of
 favors. by insidious threats of politi-
 cal opposition: by the use of patronage
 or the division of political rewards I
 know of no improper lobbyism of that
 kind The nearest approach to undue
 influence exerted upon members Of congress, I believe, is the influence eX- 1 erted by the president and by the use i and power of the party secret caucus.
 Do you mean to say that is lob ! bying2" demanded Senator Reed.
 "A lobbyist is a man who attempts to influence legislation against the i honest conviction, the conscience and l the notions of duty of the legislator. returned Senator Townsend. '"Because
 of the insinuation that a lobby exists l to influence them to vote for amend
 ments they believe in. I think some senators will refrain from so voting This is coercion
 You believe there is a species ot lobbying from the executive well as from the outside?" asked Senator Cum mins.
 ..Yes. sir; have no dougt of if, replied Senator townsend. T do not blame the executive any more than any other. It seems to be rather popular
 nowadays.
 "There are two sides to this question
 The fact that a man is for protection
 is not an evidence that he is dishonest
 or because he is for free trade, that he is honest.
 Democratic leaders have been re-
 ported as saying: This is to be mat
 ter the president must decide and in l order to be a. good democrat and re ceive the proper amount of patronage. and not perhaps be opposed, you must : support the party measures. Do you know any human being who
 can say as d matter of fact President l Wilson has either withheld or given ? appointments to affect the vote of any man in congress-" demanded Senator : Reed.
 5 NO, I do not I know only what I Q have heard rumored and seen in
 papers" said Senator Townsend Senator Townsend said he had no e substantial interests that might be af fected by the tariff, and knew of no $ Hobbies existing in Washington.