The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1913-06-04
GRILL|NG THE
| SENATORS
u. S. Senate Resumes the
Lobby" Investi-'
cation
DILLINGHAM; HAS
SEEN NO LOBBY
But Has Received Many Let
ters Bearing on the
Tariff

Washington, june 4.-Senator Penrost
yesterday told the special Senate com
mittee hunting for 'the lobby that in
his sixteen years experience in Wash
ington he never knew of any attempts
to improperly influence members OF Con-
gress. He gave the names of lis per-
sons who had called on him since
January |, on the tariff, but declared
that none were lobbyists" in the gen
eral acceptance of the term. Its well
known that certain interests have
agents here" said the senator, land |
suppose they are paid salaries. They
evidently get information for their or
plantations. Their work is perfectly le-
gltimate. have seen Mr.. Burgess for
the pottery interests here for years and
Mr. Brown for the cotton people. Their
work is perfectly legitimate as far as |
know. My own opinion is that the lob
by is simply thing OF the past. Con-
grcssional committees pay little atten-
ton to them now"
Senator Penrose thought that probab-
ly Winthrop l.. Marvin of Boston rep
resented the wool people" in Washing
ton, and Senator Reed was interested to
learn if Marvin ever had anything TO do
with fixing the tariff on wool or Brown
with the cotton tariff. Senator Penrose
insisted the men did nothing more than
present arguments to senator's and rep
and that neither had any
thing to do with making the rates of the |
Payne law. Senator Reed recalled on
cross examination, however, that Mr.. |
at one time was secretary of a |
Joint congressional committee to inves-
tigate the merchant marine
Social lobbying in Washington justi
fies every word President Wilson ut
tered in regard to the presence of an /
lobby at the capitol" Senator
kenyon of Iowa declared on the stand.
This was the first unequiyocal state
nent in support of the presidents at
,itude.
The senator explained he believed the
most insidious and powerful lobbying
possible was practieed by fattering
eomen at dinners, theatres, automobile
ides, ETC., as was being done.
Dillingham; Has Seen No Lobby K
Senator Dillingham; testified he had no l
nancial interest in any business affect s
d by the tariff or other legislation and e
cpresented no one who had. le
Answering the stock question as to the !
ames of his callers, the Vermont sem
tor said he could recall only Samuel
Illman, New York fur dealer, who I
rotested against duty on furs, al I
hough he knew there Rad been a num- 2
er Of others who caine to/talk over |
ariff duties. He did produce, however, {
voluminous list of those from whom c
e had received letters bearing on tariff \
istters. {
Referring to some OF these he ex-
lained that while dealers of Barre, VT, d
he greatest granite center in the world, e
lvored the tariff cuts in the pending "
~, the consumers there-the employees b
wrote him they preferred the Payne
ldrich rstes, because granite ware was
reaper. None of the committee seemed
sposed to shed light on this by ques- =
oning Dillingham; and the witness
'opped the matter.
Dillingham; said no one had attempted
to influence his vote on leg !,
lation and that he had no interest d. :,
ct or indirect, in the tariff charges. =
II have seen the widespread sugar ad-
he explained, but | have .
It heard of money being used other N
se.' =;
The greatest pressure" ever exerted y,
him since he entered Congress, Dill ~
lgham continued, seemed to be that a.
from some source opposed to 81,
e Owen bill creating public health
rvice. The senator explained he had
en- flooded with protests, all apparent n
coming from the same general source. NJ,
lie shipping companies had also waged :
similar campaign against ~
e Dillingham-Bur immigration
!, he stated.
DO you regard this round robin sys-