New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-03-16
CARTER ACCUSES ROADS
Of FALS|FY|NC REPORTS
rirenen'S President and Rail.
roads Counsel in Clash
Over Alleged Fraud.
LEE OBJECTS TO EXPERT
First Exception Noted When
Arbitration Board Refuses
to Bar Testimony of
Union Witnesses.

~ : carter president of the Brother
hood OF Locomotive Firemen and Engine
men. openly accused the Eastern railroads
~ "falsfying" their reports TO the Inter
state Commerce Commission at the hear
,nc before the board of arbitration which
,s 10 settle the wage controversy between
the fremen and the managers of the fifty
tour roads involved at the Waldorf yes
to-day. A heated argument ensued be
tween the iremen's representative and
Elisha Lee. representing the railroad man
ayers. over Mr.. Carriers accusation.
W. j. Lauck an expert from Washing
,on was being examined by Carter in re-
card 10 the mass of statistics he had pre-
pared 10 show that the firemen had not re-
cefved a commensurate increase in wages
IN view OF the large increase of revenue
IN the Eastern lines during recent years
shen Mr.. Carter referred to the "falsity'
OF the railroad reports. Lauck had based
his conclusions on the reports of the roads
involved 20 the Interstate Commerce Com
mission. He was analyzing a statement
of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad.
When the witness came TO give the
number Of firemen employed on the road
In different years. with the average earn
,nes OF each. IL was figured out by Judge
Chambers. chairman of the arbitration
hoard. that the average increase in fire
mems pay in the last ten years had been
about As per cent Mr.. Carter declared
that this percentage was not a proper
one. as Mr. Leuck had been obliged 10
terstate Commerce Commission from the
railroad. which were absolutely erro-
ntous
Like "Salted" Mine.
III has been the custom Of years for
the railroads 10 make reports TO the In
,erstate Commerce Commission which do
rot account for all their employees" said
Mr.. Carter. They report only the higher
priced men. leaving the part time men
out, and thus falsify the statistics which
Mr. Lauck had TO consult. In other
words. Mr.. Lauck had TO work in mine
that had been salted'
In view OF tho fact that counsel for
the other side has admitted that the fig
ures upon which the witness bases his
statistics are absolutely erroneous -
use his own words" said Mr. Lee. Il
object to any further testimony from this
witness
Then ] object 10 any testimony being
received from the other side along this
line" said Mr.. Carter holly. EFF they
viii falsify. under oath. TO the Interstate
Commerce Commission. they VIII falsify
10 this board. have 50 from the most
reliable authority-in fact. from membcis
n the Interstate Commerce Commission
thai h i- known the railroads falsely
their reports a. 10 employees and ] ann
td that steps are to be- taken. by calling
oncals 81 the roads and also employees.
TO see II some means cannot he devised
by which equitable reports will Doe oh
tanned o. this respect
Engineers Had Same Trouble.
j heard only last uight that the ensi-
neers IN their controversy with the roads
regretted that they had employed an eX-
pert a. ALL A. he had 10 consult set of
sgires that were erroneous. There are
no reports filed with the Interstate com
msrce Commission so palpably Inaccurate
ard unreliable as these reports.
Mr. Lee persisted IN hts objection 70
the witness Judge Chambers ovenuled
Mr.. Lees objection. telling the witness
10 proceed Mr.. Lee excepted 10 the rul-
ing and asked that his exception be not
ID II was the first exception recorded
In the proceedings. which began last
Monday
Mr. Carter said IT had cost the Brother
hood Of Firemen about $500 TO get TINS
Information. and he thought II only FAR
that It all be put in evidence.
!, was finally decided that the witness
would have 20 anish with his testimony
b. the end Of the session on Monday.
The statements OF two representative
roads Will be submitted, and the other
exhibits then admitted and examined by
the board