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men before the senate lobby Drobe
committee as TO the activities Of local
sugar interests I'm opposing The new
tariff bIII. Attorney 8. VI. BaIlou Of
the Hawaiian Sugar Planters Assoeia-
ton Is being questioned, and today's
excerpt closes his testimOny.]
Senator Cumm:ns. Did you ever see
a circular-or a petition, rather-such
as ] now show you (handing wit
ness leaflet)?
Mr.. BalIou. No, sir; that is the
first time / have seen anything OF
that particular kind.
Senator Cummins. How generally
throughout the United States did the
campaign that you say was headed by
MT. Lowry extendg -
Mr.. Ballou. Ny only knowledge on
that subject is from conversations
with congressman during those years
who said that they received the yell
low petitions back by thousands.
Practically every congressman that l
spoke 70 on the subject, stated that,
using that expression or something
substantially like It.
! Senator Cummins. You were not
here in 1909?
Mr.. Ballou. No, sir; was not
Senator Cummins. ] was about to
ask you IL you could recall how gen.
orally the grocers Of the country were
: fcHlarized on this subject, and to
what extent they sent In their petit
tons to the congress asking for the
removal of the duty on sugar.
Mr.. Ballou. Do you mean in 1903 or
recently
Senator Cummins. Any time since.
Mr.. Bailou. do not know, speaking
Of grocers as class.
Senator Cummins. Do you mean to
tell the committee that II was to meet
the campaign that had been originat-
ed by Mr.. Lowry that you have gone
10 this great expense, with q view OF
having the people Of the country be-
lieye there ought to be q duty on SUI
garf
Mr.. Ballou. II was to meet the
growing sentiment for free sugar,
which, In my opinion. was very large
due to Mr.. Lowry's campaign.
Senator Cummins. Whether your
campaign has been good or bad, de-
fensible or indefensible, let me ask
you whether 1t has been open or
aboveboard?
MT. Ballou. Mr.. Lowry's
Senator Cummins Yours.
Mr.. Ballou. Ours-yes, sir
Senator Cummins. His has been
also open and aboyeboardf
Mr.. BaIlou. ! do not consider it
so: no, SIR.
Senator Cummins. You found out
what was going on, did you not?
Mr.. Bailou. Up to the date of the
Hardwick hearings I did not know,
and / am quite certain that no hint
had been given, that this literature
was being circulated in the interests
Of any rennery. II was all circulated
under the name OF q Committee of
wholesale Grocers, F. c. Lowry, score
tary.
Senator Cummins. You mean that
in that respect 1t was deceptivef
Mr.. Baliou. In that respect it was
deceptive Of.course. its statements
i do not agree with. It's statements
Of facts do not agree with very
largely. UP to the time that Mr.. LoY-
nv appeared before the Hard
wick committee / do not think
that fact had been made public
Ia any way-that 1t had been organ
fred and was being conducted and fl
RANGED BY any refining interests.
Senator Cummins. take 1t. then,
that you look upon what You have
done as q campaign before the voters
OF the United Statesf
Mr.. Ballou. Yes, sir.
Senator Cummins. To induce them
to believe that 1t Is for their interest
that there shall be retained high
duty on sugar?
Mr.. Ballou. Yes, SIR.
Senator Cummins. II Is true, then,
that you expect to influence the iudg.
ment of the members of congress?
Mr.. Ballou. I hope to, by the facts
presented.
Senator Cummins. Have you ever
presented to these voters or to the
members Of congress any considera-
tons other than You have described
in your circulars and advertisements?
Mr.. Ballou. No, sir.
Senator Cummins And bulletins,
and so forth? W ss
Mr.. Ballou. No, sir. ! have tried
to emphasize the value of the indus,
try to the country, on the one side,
end the interests OF the consumer on
the other.
Senator Cummins. ! do not know,
now, whether this has been done or
not-I am not impeaching your good
faith, at all in asking the question
but have you ever sought to secure pc
titions from individuals throughout
the country which would seem to be
the expressions. the independent ex-
pressions of the people signing them,
sent forward to congress or to men,
bers of congress? -,
Mr.. Ballou. / have not. That fea-
ture Of the campaign was described
by Gov. Carter. have not known of
that, with one exception. For ex-
ample, when the people of Hawaii or