Santa Fe new Mexican. [volume] (Santa Fe, N.M.) 1898-1951, 1913-07-29
MULHALL LIES
UNDERWOOD
SAYS
DEMOCRATIC LEADER OF HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES APPEARS
BEFORE SENATE COMMITTEE and
DENIES THAT LOBBYIST HAD IN.
TERvIEW WITH Him..
CLARK and Mann
ALSO MAKE DENIALS

Washington, d. c., July 29,-Marti'
Nj. Muhall, star witness before th'
senate lobby committee, heard him
self denounced by Democratic Leade
Underwood, of the house, as a lila
and blackmailer" today and then hini
self contributed a mild sensation b.
testifying that Secretary Wilson
Speaker Clark and Republican Leade'
Mann and President Samuel Gompers
OF the American Federation of Labor
all had turned down his proposals fol
an investigation of his lobbying activ
ties for the National Association o1
Manufacturers. Clark and Mann, he
said, wouldn't have the matter come
rp." Representative Underwood hot
ly denied Mulhalls claim of having
had an interview but the lobby wit
ness insisted on his story.
Majority Leader Oscar w. Under
wood, of the house, today denounced
Martin NJ. Mulhall, alleged lobbyist
for the National Association of Manu-
facturers, as "a liar and blackmailer.
Mr.. Underwood appeared before the
senate lobby committee to deny that
Mulhall had ever talked to him about
legislation before congress. After one
look at the witness, he said: Il never
saw him before in my life"
Il think" said the majority leader,
"that it is in the interest of the pub
lie that man who has taken liber-
ties with public men, as this man has,
should be contradicted. | regard a
man of this kind as a blackmailer.
That man has never been in the ways
and means committee room since |
have been chairman. He may have
had conversations with me, but when
he says he had an interview. want
to say that statement is a lie
Mr. Underwood appeared unexpeo.
tedly and made brief statement be-
fore he wcs sworn in. He denounced
as false Nlnlhall's statement that an
employe CT the ways and means COM
mittee had been in his employ. Ac-
cording to MulhalPs earlier testimony,
the man was paid $40 month.
Chairman Underwood read Null
halls letter about the alleged inter-
view in which Mulhal wrote that I'm
derwood had told him he could not 40
otherwise than appoint William B.
Wilson, now secretary of labor, chair
man of the house labor committee,
because there were no other candl'
dates on the ways and means COM
1ni.tee.
That whole statement is a lie out
OF whole cloth--not a word OF truth
in it," declared Mr.. Underwood.
There never was candidate Dut
Wilson and his selection as head OF
that committee was made solely be-
cause of his capacity and qualifica-
tions. 1t Is clear that this man was
down here writing these things to his
people, trying to make out he was
doing great things. He never had any
conference with me. The statement
in his letter can be disproved by
every member of the house ways ana
means committee. I am sure never
have met him. He has face never
could forget. There is nothing here
that reflects on me-" continued MI,
"but | want it set right
before the country"
Mulhall reiterated he had talked |;
with Underwood briefly in the cor
ridor and had written to his employ
ers about conditions just as he
found them in Washington at that
time" a
I have no desire to contradict Mr.
he said, but l am con-
vinced that after he has heard my
other witnesses and then when it is
ended, he will take back part of what
he said"
1.-THE statements you have made in
your letters were not true and can be
proved not true by other members
Of the ways and means committee"
retorted Mr.. Underwood. Therefore
It was self-evident l did not make
them to you."
VIII Stduu do SiOoA pCAoAO S1AO
country as you WILL" returned Mr..
ALulhall, heatedly. .-s..s.. ..
"Oh, have no question about how
we will stand relatively before the
public" replied Mr.. Underwood with
laugh, and left the committee room.
The incident created furry that
had not wholly subsided when the
committee settled down to the fur.
Lher identification of letters.
Martin NJ Mulhall told the senate
lobby committee that at one time he
proposed an investigation of his acti-
vities as lobbyist for the National
of Manufacturers to
former Chairman Wilson, OF the labor
Speaker Clark and Repub. I
ican Leader Mann, and that all had
turned down his proposal.
Mulhal testified he made his pro.
posal to Wilson, now secretary OF
labor, personally, and to Clark ana
Mann in letter through Representa-
i've McDermott of Illinois. 4
He testified he also had offered MS
to Samuel Gompers,