Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1913-07-26

| This Is installment No. in the re-
port Of the senate lobby probe COM
mittee that investigated the activities
Of Hawaii sugar planters in Washing.
ton. The report Is being published
from week to week.
Senator Walsh When did you get
| II to them?
Mr. Carter ! think. II may have
the copy OF 1t, it will show the date
Of my letter OF transmittal. ! think
II was the 2sth of May
Senator Cummins. Which one do
you mean?
Mr.. Carter That green pamphlet
that the chairman has, II may have
| It. The letter Of transmittal is adj
dressed to Senator John Sharp Will
liams, and is dated May %; and | sent
It as / say, at the suggestion of Sena-
tor OGorman; but now gather from
,le testimony before this committee
that when senators receive printed
pamphlet like this they throw 1t into
the waste-paper basket.
Senator Walsh. This was prepared,
as I understand you, at the sugges-
ton Of Senator O'Gorman?
Mr.. Carter. Yes; | was telling Sen
ator O'Gorman little about the treat
lment that our delegation had received
before the committee. am of the
| opinion that whatever occurred before
that committee will not reach the rest
of the senators unless it comes. out
in some such testimony as this.
4 Senator Nelson. wish you would
tell US about that. | want to hear
this.
/ Senator Walsh. Senator. will you
pardon me until dispose of this?
Senator Nelson. OF course; but
when are you likely to end?
Senator Walsh. am going to try
to learn something. / will be very
glad, however. If you will proceed
with the examination
Il Senator Nelson. Go on.
Il Senator Walsh. You say you were
telling Senator O'Gorman about the
treatment that the delegation got. and
you got from him the suggestion that
you prepare a brief?
II Mr.. Carter. No; not at all Yes; in
a way. He suggested 1t in this way:
down what you want to say and have
lac prhted and send It to the sena-
tors7r / did not say 30 TO him, but
thought afterwards that could have
done that at home without travelling
1000 miles.
/ Senator Walsh. You would want to
Fpresent brief to the finance commit.
tee insany case, would you not, even
though you had obtained a hearing?
Mr.. Carter No: | should have pre-
lferred a public hearing. and declined
Ito 20 before the committee because 1t
was not a public hearing.
i senator need. You did decline to
Igor
Mr.. Carter. At least / did not go,
and that was my reason for not going.
4 Senator Walsh. Because 1t was not
ia public hearing
Mr.. Carter. Yes / saw no advan-
tage in a hearing before three sena-
tors who were adverse to. us. and
when It was not going to be public.
Senator Walsh. Whom do you
speak of as the three senators who
are adverse to you?
Il Mr.. Carter. presumed they were
adverse. was so informed. They
were the three senators who composed
the subcommittee having charge Of
sugar.
Senator Walsh That is, Senator
Williams
Mr.. Carter. Senator Williams, Sen
ator Gore, and Senator ShiYely. be-
lieve.
Senator Walsh. So you did not
make any effort at all to appear be-
fore that committee?
| Mr.. Carter. advised my col
leagues not to appear before that COM
mittee, and did not come up myself.
! Senator Walsh. And you presented
no brief to that committee at all?
You addressed this to the general pub
lie?
| Mr.. Carter No; / presented this
brief to them afterwards after our
hearing was over. after they had sig
nited their impression that the dele
lgation from Hawaii amused" them.
II Senator Walsh. amused them?
Il Mr.. Carter. Yes; amused them:
and after one of them was courteous
enough to suggest that the Hawaiian
delegation be heard after the tariff
-. is passed.
/ Senator Walsh. Now. Senator Mel
son.
| Senator Nelson. will wait until
you are through.
1 Senator Walsh. Did you appear be-
] fore that subcommittee at all?
Mr. Carter / did not
/ Senator Walsh. The remark that
you speak of was made by which mem
Der of the committed?
Mr.. Carter There were only two
members present, the chairman and
Senator Gore.
The Chairman. Do you mean the
| chairman of the committee or the
chairman of the subcommittee?
Mr.. Carter The chairman of the
subcommittee.
Senator Walsh. I understand you
to say that you did not appear before
the subcommittee at all?
Mr.. Carter. I did not. I am giving