New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-07-17
InsistenCe by Railroads OF Hear
ing of Their Grievances as
Well as Mems COmp!i-
Gates Situation.
ARBITRATION IN JEOPARDY
Elisha Lee, Jr., Outlines De-
mands Of Roads, but Men
Will Try to Confine Case
to Theirs Both Ask
Mediation Board.

Mediation Board.
Al DOUBT as 70 the stand o. be adopt
ed b. ,ho Eastern railroad managers
/ IN their dealings With the conductor.
and .raiumcn under the Newlands act
was swept psidc last night, when Elisha
Lee. ir. chairman Gt the conference
committee o; managers. made public 3
letter he scu5 10 y. Il Carrc:sor. pres
' idcnt Of the order OF Railway Firemcn.
and ". G. Ice, president of the Broth
erhood of Railroad Trainmcn.
This letter said that the railroad.
would make demands which Includes d
( rcdu ,t!ou u - per cent in pay for al
& brakcmen ON extra crew trains i'm states
. where the cxua crew bili is not state
/ Law. abolition Of all monthly guarantees
to trainmeu. and no double componsa-
ton To- be pail.
/ Tho railroads likewise said thcy
/ would insist shat the rates and awards
/ dxed by the Proposed arbitration board
/ should ,upers.Gc those now in effect.
I I'm fun. the demands of the railroad
arc rs follows:
What the Roads VIII Ask.
Il. When minimum days wage is
pajd I'm any class Of service II shall en-
title the railroad TO the full mileage
or hours OF service paid FOR.
-. In no case shall double compen-
sation he paid.
IS. For fixing the basis Of componsa-
tion-i e.. whether passenger. through
or local freight. yard. ctc.-the same
classification shall be applied 10 all
members Of the train crew.
e. All monthly guarantees shall be
abolished.
-. That consideration he given TO
reduction OF existing rates of ray of
ward brakcmcn and ~ passenger con-
doctors and trainmcn on long contiuu-
Gus runs. where there IS an oppor-
tunity 10 make excessive mileage In
limited number of hours.
Ii Employees in tw" or more classes
OF service on continuous duty or under
continuous pay shall be paid .he rates
Iappiicable To the different services per
formed with u minimum equal TO ten
dm hours at the lowest paid service.
-. on passenger and freight trains.
where under extra crew laws addi-
tioual men arc required. the rate OF
nav for an brakcmch shall be- 80 pr
cent below rates established for brake
men on trains not affected 3y such
laws.
-. The rates and rules awarded by
this arbitration shall sUpcrsede rates
and rules nov in effect, which are m
conflict herewith"
Men Oppose Railroad Stand.
when the letter Of tie railroads was
| cxplaincd 10 the leaders Of the men
they declared that the only questions
which they would allow 20 be arbi-
trated by the new board would bc their
! demands uuou the railroads. They
held that these we're the only questions
properly before the board. They added
that the committee Of one hundred of
! the trainmen would 20 into executive
session this morning ~ o'clock at the
broadway Central and would then give
| out n statement
The new move on the part Of the
railroads led many on both sides OF the
| controversy TO believe last night that
arbitration was in serious jeopardy,
and strike, therefore, nearer az tho
present time than since the trouble
| arose
Elisha Lee predicted the action OF the
railroad managers in submitting a list
Of questions to the arbitration board
when he said yesterday:
The conductors and trainmen have
certain grievances which they desire 20
! submit TO arbitration. We have griev-
ances which we also want TO submit
20 arbitration. This seems 10 us 10 be
as much or opportunity as theirs"
Telegram Sent to Wilson.
The first actual steps toward settling
the dispute between the conductors and
. trainmen ana the Eastern railroad man.
ayers were taken ycsterday, when repre-
scntatives Of both sides sent a telegram
10 President Wilson asking him 10 appoint
and send q commission Of mediation and
concil,atIon 10 this city. az provided in
the Newlards act.
The telegram was drafted at a confer
ence between A. @. Garrotson. leader Of
the conductors; W. G. Lee. OF the train
men, and Elisha Lee, lr., chairman Of the
managers committee. who presided at tile
meeting
Both sides expect that the commission
, will arrive here to-day. This commission.
which will have power only 10 mediate.
will be told By the interested parties that
the points involved cannot be mediatod,
and the appointment Of board OF srti-
tratIon will then be sought.
Another matter which does no, tend
toward clarifying the situation is the re-
fusal OF the conductors and trainmen 10
recognize the withdrawal of the Erie
Railroad from the managers conference.
". q. Lee notified Elisha Lee that tho
unions would insist that any action taken
nv the managers conference was binding
upon the Erie
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