New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-09-13
EMPLOYEES DEATH FIGURE
DENIED BY RAILROADS
Assertion That Trainman Is
Killed or Disabled Every 7
Hours StirS Ire.
MEN ARGUE FOR OVERTIME
Arbitrators Told of Extra Risk
on Double Headed" Trains
and How Overtime Short
ems Working Hours.

Assertions that on the railroads OF the
United states an employee was killed or
disabled for life every seven hours ana
fifteen minutes AMI a man injured every
nine minutes were vigorously disputed
yesterday at the hearing on the demands
NJ the trainmen and conductors before the
federal arbitration board. w. O. Lee,
head OF the Brotherhood OF Railroad
Trainmen, quoted the figures. and Elisha
Loo chairman of the committee OF rail-
rnad managers, disagreed vigorously with
the assertion. but did not go into detall IN
correcting the figures.
\ y. Garrettson. for the conductors
and " G. Lee. for the trainmen. put IN
tho entire session In presenting the cause
Of the men.
Mr.. Garrettson went over the demand
for overtime at length. The overtime de-
manded is time and nslf TO crews haho-
ling double headed trains OF two locorlo-
tiyes except in the case OF the Mallet en-
r,res Double time is demanded on these
engines
overtime Is n punitive measure to pre-
vent the men from being over"orkeo'
Garrettson said. The men do not want 10
work overtime. and we generally ind that
where overtime Is enforced the railfoaos
which pay It find way of shortening the
working day"
In reply TO a question from w. w. At
terbury, one OF the arbitrators represent
ing the railroads as 10 whether there was
more risk with the double-headed Trains
than on ordinary trains, he SAID thd'
there was greater responsibility with the
double-headed trains. There was greater
work without greater pay. When the rail-
roads saved money by using the larger
engines too he said. the men dld not
share In f.
Elisha Lee interrupted Garrettson when
the latter was reading d statement oaseo
ON the records Of the Interstate Ooih-
uerce Commission. I'm support OF his con
tep,ion that the men had more responsl-
buitv and work with lower pay than SIM
liar enpIoyes on the Western railroads.
The railway representative objected that
the statement was not sworn To- anu
could not be introduced.
Seth Low. chairman Of the arbitration
hoard. permitted the statement 10 pe
read
F. ]. Warne. employed BY the uainmcn
and conductors to prepare statistics was
then nut on the stand as the first Wit
ness for the men. lie quoted from three
sets Of tables. They were compiled lie
said. from the records Of the Interstate
Commerce Commission. The FIRST table
gave statistics as 10 the cars IN freiBh'
ecr,irc classified on their number snd
c,narity In lgg. compared with 1872. The
Second dealt with the tonnage capacity
OF tho ears In 1872 and 1872 The third
gave figures as TO the distribution OF
freight cars IN classes In 1870 ana -9l-'
his evidence, which was designed TO
show that the cars had increased largely
I'm size and capacity since 1897. was
Of a technical character Tho hearings
were adjourned until Monday forenoon
with Mr.. warnos testimony unfinished.
While some Of the arbitrators were still
I'm the meeting room Judge Martin ~
ttpapp. who. with Judge Chambers. Sc
lccted the Manhattan Hotel for the arbi-
tratlon hearings. came in and talked for
a short time with Mr.. Low and some Of
the other arbitrators.
Judge Knapp was asked afterward II
his appointment as member OF the board
of mediation and Cancellation appointed
under the Newlands amendment to the
Frdman act was permanent and replied
that IL was permanent at the Will OF
Judge chambers. chairman OF the board