The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1913-01-22
NORTH AND SOUTH LINE
ON WEST SIDE Is URGED
Continued from Page Onel

gether for the benefit OF the localities
they represent" said Mr. Grindley,
introducing the delegation 10 the
mayor They recognize the I'M
pcrtdnce, OF a north and south line IN
tic western part OF the city IN juno
tion-ave. II is of prime need TO the
factories aud residents"
We have thousands OF factory
,mcn who must come down town 10 get
out 10 their homes in the north
western part of the city, said Mi
Gilbert. VITO is associated with the
T'mken Axle co. we have gone INTO
the matter very thoroughly and are
prepared 10 so ahead and do what we
can 10 obtain new line
II hnow the needs OF the west side
in that respect said the mayor
when WAS assessing property out
there appreciated the haHdieaPs
will certainly do all can 10 help
you out
The mayor referred 20 the fact that
ncrm!ssion was once granted the ID.
T. X. TO build such line in the west
ern part of the city.
This matter has been put over
fer 10 or II years" said Mr.. Grind
Hey. There were is grade crossings
lon Junction-ave, and vHen II was
proposed u build the Ike in that
street we were told 10 wait awhile
until the grades were separated
Since then the grades hare been sep
'arated but theIe has Deen no progress
because OF other miX-ups over the
street car situation
"Have you talked with the d. U
/ X ?" inquired Mr.. Marx.
i NO we have not; we thought Il
best To see what the mayor thought
about IL first" replied Mr.. Grindley
/ The press of the city seems 10 be
I opposed 10 giving any franchises TO
the ID. L. r., said Mr. Gilbert We
want this trolley line because it is
lGuestion OF bread and butter with
many people. We don't want 10 do
anything that is fought by the press
We thought we would ask you what
steps should be taken and then take
your advice We realize this is go
ino TO be a hard proposition TO put
through
Assistant Corporation Counsel At
kinson was called in 10 answer a ques-
ton put by Mr.. Grindley as 10 wheth-
or the city would be obligated TO buy
/ all such extensions ii il desires TO
take over the ID. L. r. property in
1.-THE future. He informed them that
the city would have TO buy all the
property. including the extensions.
Mr. Marx called attention 10 the fact
That while he recommended in his
message that extensions be allowed
under day-to-day arrangement. he
also advised that the city check up
on the cost of the extensions to pre-
vent the d. L. X, from overcharging
for the work.
III might be a good thing 10 wait
on the D. e. X ara ask them il they
would consider building ,his line on
the same basis that they built the
Hamilton-blvd. line" said Mr.. Marx
| The delegation thought this was
good suggestion AID asked the mayor
TO call the n L r officials in for tho
conference when ali interested par
1 ties might be represented
! Mr.. Gilfoil told OF the poor street
! car service on some of the west side
lines.
Il am not interested In the ID. u. r.
in any way except in good service, but
there might be some reason for some
delays" said Mr. Gilbert The other
day | waited so minutes for a Wood
ward-ave. car. and later learned that
the sleet storm had broken the wires"
Other members OF the delegation
then suggested that their efforts be
confined solely TO obtaining the cross
town line, and again the discussion re-
tverted 10 that problem.
Atkinson vas asked a question
about the legal history OF the attempt
10 get line on the west side.
The city voted down plan 10 build
north and south line on the west
side In 1907" he said.
Since then there has been a change
OF sentiment" remarked Mr. Gilbert.
But that was TO give away fran
chise, Ed" said the mayor 10 Atkin.
son.
NO, It wasn't !" said Atkinson 1T
was giving them the right 10 build on
the same terms az prevailed In the
old Detroit railway franchise and the
right would have expired with that
| franchise"
| This matter is too vital 10 fight
over the matter OF fare" interposed
Mr.. Gilbert. when the question arose
as to whether the line would be built
as an extension of the threecent
Cross-town line or the hve-cent West
Jefferson-line.
Atkinson informed the delegation
that the reason the line had not been
built by the ID. u. X. in Junction-ave.
after the city gave a permit was be
cause the state railroad commission
forbade the company TO cross the rail
roads at grade. The supreme couri
sustained the commissions order. The
right expired by limitation, said Al
kinson. before the grades had beer
separated.
Has this proposition been put &c
the ID. Z. r. in the last few years &c
have IL build the line on the same
basis as the Hamilton-blvd. extern
slon?" inquired Mr. Marx.
II understand that the d. c. X. Is
willing to build the line on that basis,
replied Atkinson, whenever the city
grants the permit"
That bit OF information, meagre
though 1t was. made the committee
more hopeful as 10 the outlook. and II
was confident that in the conference