Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1913-10-11

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Mr.. BaIlou. No; ] do not.
Senator Reed. Do you have any
idea Of the amount?
Mr.. Ballou, No; except, as say, a
general idea OF their expenses and ex-
.penditures. ..zs...-*t -. s.
Senator Reed. Do you know wheth-
.er they have regularly collected about
10 GEMS a ton from their members
sGE w..
Mr.. Ballou. | do not know. I have
no idea. j know, they have expended
experimenting In the direct manufac-
ture of white sugar in. Hawaii That
IL one OF their activities.
Senator Nelson. White sugar, you
say? .D.s -..
Mr.. Ballou. Yes; direct white
sugar. .' ->..
Senator Reed. How do they create
this central fund?
Mr.. Ballou. Their own money Is
raised from different corporations by
some species Of assessment with
which / am not familiar.
Senator Reed. Is IL based upon
tonnage? H..
Mr.. BalIou.> ! presume II Ii based
upon tonnage. =
Senator Reed. Do you know who
would know how they raise that
money?
Mr.. Ballou. 4 am not quite sure
whether Mr.. Mead would know or not.
i will ask him. II you will permit
Senator Reed. suppose he will be
lon the stand?
Mr.. Ballou. Very well. It does not
make any difference. assume that
they raise their general fund for all
these purposes by assessment, and. I
should imagine, without amy direct
knowledge on the subject, that that
Assessment was based upon tonnage;
but as ] understood your question II
was whether or not any general fund
Involving other people than Hawaiian
planters. any outside authority, inyoly-
ing the beet people or the Louisiana
people, assessing the Hawaiian sugar
planters so much per ton for special
expenses OF this campaign, and say
Ino, that / know that no such assess
ment as you have described was ever
levied.
Senator Reed. / think we under.
Stand each other, but ! desire that we
shall. 1t has been stated in one OF
Mr.. Ballou. Yes; saw the article.
Senator Reed. / think the New
York World? <.sse
Mr. Ballou Yes.
Senator Reed. that 10 cents ton
had been assessed against all Of the
sugar producers who were In associa.
tons, and that that money had been
gathered together as q fund, or al
least such as has been obtained.
Mr.. Ballou. Yes.
Senator Reed. Now, regardless Of
now II came to be assessed, whether
~ was through an organization or sim.
ply by somebody writing letters to
them, ! want to know whether any
such thing as that ever was done, to
your knowledge?
Mr.. Ballou. No. That story was
absolutely false, as far az Hawaii was
concerned. cannot answer for any
Iother people.
Senator Reed You do not know
how mucn money your people actually
did have In the central fund?
Mr.. Ballou. No: but, as / say,
know they must carry pretty large
amounts.
Senator Reed. What do you mean
by large amounts?
Mr.. Ballou. | imagine they main.
tain balance of $4,000 to 500, 900
say. 100000 at all times. When
think of their experiment station, and
when think of this experimenting on
la large scale with the white sugar
process, and when / think of the re.
wards that they have offered OF
$4,000 at a time for labor-saving de.
vices and other matters concerned In
It, know that they must expend large
sums OF money, and should imagine
they keep fund in the neighborhood
of 100000 That is merely guess.
Senator Reed. DO you agree with
Gov. Carter that they would be fully
warranted In expanding 100000 to
defeat this bill? q.
Mr.. Ballou. ! think so; yes.
Senator Reed. They would not care
much how it was spent?
Mr.. Ballou. / think they would
care great deal how 1t was spent.
think they would want to know that
they were getting full value for their
money, and as far as the question In.
wolves any illegitimate way / certain
~ think they would care great deal
about how 1t was expended f.. !
Senator Reed. Do they in addition
to yourself keep any other regular
salaried man in this country?
Mr.. Ballou. Mr.. Trenor, of New
York, is under retainer, think 1t is
regular salary, to look after immi.
grafton matters more particularly.
may not have mentioned him. He has
been down here in this campaign.
Senator Reed. How long was he
here? ........-
Mr.. Ballou. Oh, / do not know. He
has been here off and on. He goes
back to New York. He comes down,
and he stays for week or ten days
at time.
Senator Reed. Has he been taking
any part in the publicity campaign?