Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1913-09-21
Commissioner Of Navigation, Mi
nority Leader Mann and Champ
Clark Discuss Question.
WASFEINGTON

WASHINGTON. Sept. 20.-Are
women Drawer than mem
r. ]. chamberlain, Commission
ot av!gatirn, says they are.
Martin r. Madden, member Of Con
gross from Illinois says they are
Minority Leader Mann says they
are. in some respects.
Speaker Champ Clark, coming from
the Show Ne" State. says Il is q
stand or between men and women.
<. l. Kimbali, genera, superintend-
ent " the Llve-S Saving Servi"e.
doesn't want TO show favoritism. AM
SAYS both men and women are gen
orally brave"
Chamberlain's declaration is very
emphatic. Ii Is contained in report
which he has just made to the Secre
tary Of Commerce on charges relaJ
ing to conditions on vessels on the
Great Lakes, and il has awakened
widespread discussion.
The charges were filed by the Amer
lean Vigilance AssoCia ton They al
legged it was a habit Of masters of
small vessels on the lakes to have
women on board, ostsnsibly as cooks,
but really for immoral purposes. The
association wanted the practice
stopped One OF its arguments was
that women were in the way in ma
rine disasters, that men were ham
pered In their efforts to escape by
the need of looking after the women,
and that women should not be al
lowed on board the small trading yes
sells where the life saving facilities
were necessarily limited.
Finds Charges Unfounded.
Commissioner Chamberlain was dt-
rected TO make an investigation. He
l.. oh. --f
the masters Of the vessels were IN
founded. and he said as much TIE
thing that really aroused his indig
nation. however. was the allegation
that women were in the way in dis
astcrs and the intimation that they
were lacking in physical bravery.
Women. as a rule, in marine dis
astcrs." said Mr.. Chamberlain, have
shown courage, self Possession, self
reliance and obedience, and almost
without exception any display If
CowardiCe or unreStrained manifesto
ton Of the instinct OF self preserv.t-
ton has come from men. The rule on
shipbOaTd, women and children first.
is based on the fundamental respe :
for womanhood and on self-sacrifiCe,
common qualities of mer in this
country, in which, however, those
making charges in this case seem
wholly deficient. and TO the existence
Of which they seem blind"
Madden Is Enthusiastic.
REPRESENTATIVE Madden. of those
who paid particular note to Mr..
Chamberlains report, was the most
enthusiastic In his Endorsement OF the
Commissioners views.
- have never seen woman VINO IN
time Of danger wasn't Drawer than a
10 aa
Mr.. Madden. when IL comes to being
equal to an emergency, a woman Is
the superior of any man | ever saw
She NAV collapse when IL is over, but
while the peril lasts she is as calm
and collected as IL nothing at all was
the matter.
Woman Capable Of Suffering.
Minority Leader Mann said:
when 1t comes to physical suffer
ing. a woman is much Drawer than
man She will endure pain that VIII
make a man whimper like a baby.
But when 1t comes to actual physical
danger. such as disaster on water
or on land, ] am inclined to 1hlnk
that a man is the drawer of the two.
Speaker Champ Clark disposed OF
the subject in his usual epigrammattc
manner.
some are not-like men" he said.
Life Saver Noneommittal.
And Superintendent Kimball. OF the
Life Saving Service, a man who has
worked his way to the top by indus
try and Judgment went the Speaker
even one better In declining to De
pinned down to the subject
Really, you know he said-and
apparently through his mind went
visions of the prcdicament he would
be in if he said the wrong thing on
such Il delicate matter-'I cant give
an opinion without looking up the rec
ords."
But surely" it was argued your
long experience must have given you
an impression, at least, of the phys
zeal courage OF women
Mr.. Kimball had happy thought
Say for me-" he observed, happily
that find, as rule, men and wOm-
en- both are generally brave"