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OPTIMISTIC OUTLOOK
Continued from page twelve.

-. and there that are not There is one
ses On the business horizon which is of
o0'D recurrence-that is the threat
tariff legislation against sugar
en'' nonnocrat. but | do not believe the
." .hould take steps TO destroy such an
p" Industry as the sugar business
n'p.,is,ana or the beet sugar business
40 West. 1t may be said. however
- the majority of Congress are de-
iS' IN take action In this matter I'm
''D Dorse 10 the popular clamor, which in
'sv he,eqt 10 the public at large means
70 u,,Ie. and reduce the duty on sugar
.ooner n Is done the better. | do not
.'u.re that Mr.. Wilson will be In favor
:, any radical action.
uish prices for cotton seem to be as
"a for an indefinite time, This is
'..fvine. especially as the cause is not
go, crops. The worlds consumption has
s.Osn to such proportions that two enor-
Us crops successfully have been taken
49, the manufacturers at good prices.
"a. is the chief item In the South's pros
,srtty, but not all Of it.
lumber Is a great industry. and. while
.,.rs has been a slight recession in prices.
-. future OF the business is assured.
,.., NJ the large tracts OF timber Of the
,,,,n,rv excepting those on the Western
-, are located in the South, are held
.,e.e,v. and are worth more than ever be-
fore. IL
reclamation OF swamp lands in this
,;c,nity is giving an impetus to the real
..,a,e business. This means much to this
,.c,ion and 10 the city Of New Orleans.
,h,ch. In spite Of the claims Of other
,,,,.. Is still the metropolis of the South.
Constantly increasing trade with Cen
era, and South America and Mexico Is a
,.ttsr for further congratulation.
Tho nee business in Louisiana has
,.s,ed I'm its growth the most sanguine
expectations. -.
The opening OF the Panama Canal will
undoubtedly be a great stimulus TO trade
m this section.
IN my opinion, the tide OF prosperity has
AT IN 80 strong for the South that there
4. no danger OF reversals beyond those or
tina most temporary character.
JOHN B. FERGUSON. Cashier.
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VIRGINIA BRIDGE AND IRON
COMPANY.

ROANOhE, a
We see no immediate evidence OF any
decreasing business In the territory where
we operate for the year 1919, and we nave
good reason to believe that present sat
isfactory conditions will continue through
out the coming year. We must. however.
share i'm the view so frequently expressed
by others-that any radical legislation
al Washington may upset all eXpecta-
tions. whether such legislation seriously
affects the tariff. money conditions the
railroads. the Panama Canal or ADDITION
al government supervision and ihVesuga-
ton.
Business in every line to-day is making
great strides, and even If this radical leg
isIatjon is proposed and encouraged
which really do not expect the year
1918 will undoubtedly witness enormous
commercial activities in this country
c. EDWIN MICHAEL. President
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Increases
Dividends Of S3.765,845.

During the year the state banks have
maid out in dividends TO shareholders a
total of 50. 30, sl5. which was In excess OF
Az Der cent on tie combined capital and
surplus. The item Of surplus in 1912 bears
the ratio OF l.59 to capital az against l.5l
in 1911 and la In 1910 The report con
tinUes.
There has been some increase in the cost
Of examinations due to the expansion on
the work Of the Credit Bureau ana 10 the
calling Of meetings Of boards OF directors,
u,nich made IL necessary for examiners 10
give additional time 10 the work OF pass
ing upon tie loans and general cohdltlVh
Of institutions at each examination Al
though the cost TO the institutions may
be a little more. this expenditure IS more
Than overcome by the increased efficiency
of the examinations. 49,
The total cost Of examination OF the
state banks. trust companies, saHhBs
hanks. safe deposit companies. mortgage.
loan and investment companies, savings
and loan associations, building loan asso
Citations and personal loan ASSOCIATIONS - 81
the state for the year ended august 81;
100 Was Sl0J5l3. The aggregate assets OF
these institutions was A.3Jl Gil ,2s5, so that
The cost of examination was but "a cents
for each $1,000 OF assets. ,,.
the total expenditures OF the Depart,
ment for the year were sls.,9Il. mr. ,,,
were several extraordinary expenses IN
Guided in the assessment or TINS year
,non tho institutions As the department
had outgrown its former offices In New
York n became necessary to rent larger
and more expensive Offices and Amos.
entirely refurnlsh them. The department
80 moreover. practically required by the
LEGISLATURE to make certain special IN
, ,.e like the public Investigation
into the affairs Of the Union Bank. or
BROOKLYN. the Borough Bank. OF bIook-
'vn etc which have greatly Increased the
expenses OF the department for the cur
rent year
superintendent Van Tuyl expresses the
hone that laws may be enacted which Will
further interests of depositors with state
institutions and afford still greater pro-
lection to investors generally.
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THE SCANDINAVIAN AMERIC AN
BANK.


Replying, will say that during the last
few months our lumber industry, which is
one Of the principal factors in our COM
ntrciai life. experienced very healthy
revival, and is now being conducted on
very profitable basis. Our fishing industry
Is also increasing and producing salts
factory results. More attention is each
YEAR being devoted TO agriculture. and our
vacant lands are being settled up. Com
nercial activity is increasing alons all
lines and with the opening of the Panama
Canal We are looking forward to the
greatest era Of prosperity in the North
west that We have ever enjoyed. and be
l,ye this will extend over period of sew
eral years In our judgment, nothing but
the unforeseen and unexpected can pre-
vent good times in the Northwest for
some time TO come.
J. r. LANE, Cashier.
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heve mat the business for 1913 is going
u oe hrst class. While il may not be so
sooo the first six months. until the tariff
question has been settled, after that we
believe business will be very good. The
outlook is fine
Inc iron market is good. and believe
IT VIII stay where it is now
AS far as the political situation is con-
cerned 1t does not exactly meet with our
approval However. we believe that Mr.
wilson will make good in every respect
ana If this is the case We can expect the
next four years TO be prosperous ones
Y. c. FREED, President
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NATIONAL BANK OF COMMERCE
SPOKANE, WAS

SFUhANE, W ASTI.
beg TO advise you that conditions were
never more stable than at the present
time
The entire inland empire" surrounding
Spokane enjoyed all immense crop OF
cereals. vegetables. fruit and hay. which
the producers are selling At fair prices.
The mining business has been very profit-
able this year. and the lumber business
for 1912 Is greatly improved over the pre-
yious year.
There IS absolutely nothing the matter
with Spoken and the INLAND empire
F. VI. MARCH, President.
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A0YERSFORD FOUNDRY AND
MACHINE COMPANY.

ROYERSFORD. PENN.
Tours Of the goth to hand and contents
+'efully noted. In regard to the bust
~ outlook of the country, II 10 our opin-
"a that IT Is very good. We are very
s~y-in fact. we could not take in any
~ work under any condition. and be-
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promising since the panic Of 1907. The
cotton crop Of this season was above tha
average. both in price and quantity. IN
fact. there seems 10 be general revival
in all lines OF business, ana unless some
thing Unforeseen happens 1918 viii be the
best year the Southern states nave ever
had c. NJ. PRESTON, Cashier.
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HAMILTON NATIONAL BANK.
CHATTANOOGA. TIE

CHATTANOOGA, TENN.
Business conditions in this section OF
the country were never better. and the
outlook for 1913 In all lines Is the most
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ESTABLISHED 1852
NATlONACiZEO 1911

Charter Member New York Clearing House
OFFICERS
Edward Earl, President
John Munro, Arthur W. ehpar''
Vice President Cashier
Henry c. Miller. n. p. Sturr
Vice-P President ASS CASHIER
Laurence II. Hendricks, Nlce-President
Newton o. Alline. G. L. Thomas,
Vlre-President Asst Cashier
DIRECTORS
Samuel r. Weed E. Munroe Dyer
,ob, Munro Arthur Coppeli
u.prv C. Miller j.. Christy Bell
n,c,s,ipe /. Smith d. Hunter McAlpin
,ur.n,eH Hendricks Arthur c. Harris
Edward Earl
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Coupons Maturing January
HARRIS, Fl
Successors to N. w.
Pine Street, Corne
Also Payable ,
Chicago Correspondent
Harris Trust and Savings Bank
Albuquerque. New Mexico. Board
of Education, School Building
Albuquerque, New Mexico, Funding
Albuquerque, New Mexico, General
Street Improvement
Arlington Heights, ILL.,. School Bldg.
Atlanta, Birmingham & Atlantic
Railroad Co. Equipment
Benton. H.. Refundine
Berrvville. Va. Water Works
Biz Rapids, Mich. Rcfunding
Billings. Mont, School Dist. No. 2
Boulder. Colo. Water Works
Bozeman. Mont, Funding Second
Series
Broadwater County. Mont, F'ding
Buffalo G. Susquehanna Railway Co.
Gold Equipment Series "A"
Cascade County. Mont, Court H'se
Cascade County. Mont. Funding
Cass County, Iowa. 4l2s
Centerville. Iowa. Refunding 4ses5s
Charlton, Iowa, Funding ANNUALLY
Chippewa Valley RAILWAY Light &
Power Co., Eau Claire, Wis, First
Mortgage Gold
Clifton Forge. Va. Bridge
Clinton. Ia. Funding and Refund'g
Colorado Springs, Colo. School
District No. II. Refunding
Consumers Power Co., First Lien
g. Refunding Gold SIS
Cook County. Ill.,, School District
No. 90 Morton Park
Cook County, Ill.,, School District
No. 40 Chicago Heights)
Coos County, N. H., Court House
Council Bluffs, Iowa, Independent
School District
Council Traction Co., ILL.,
Cuthbert, Ga, Electric Light
Cuthbert, Ga, Water Works
Danville Street Railway Is Light
Co, Danville. ILL.,. Refunding
Mortgage Gold
Deer Lodge Farms Co.
Denison g. Sherman (Texasl Rail
way Co.. First Mortgage Gold
Derry, New Hampshire, Water
Dexter, Mo-, School District, School
Building
Dickey County, N D.. 4l5s
Edison Elec. Co. New Orleans. La.
Gilbert County. Ga, Court House
g. Jail (annuallv)
Fmincnce, Ky, SIS
Evergreen Park, H., Refunding
Fayette County. Ky. Funding
Florence, s. c.. Sewerage
Ford County, H. (Melvin), School
District No. So
Frccport Water Co.. ILL.,
Gallatin County, Mont, High
School Building
Gallatin County. Mont. Refunding
Genesee, Ida, Water Works
Gcnesco Township, H., High School
District AS
Georgetown. H., School District
No. ~
Glencoe. H., Improvement
Glenwood, Ia, Funding (annually)
Gorhan. NH. Water Works
Great Falls, Mont, Sewer
Great Falls. Mont. Water Works
Green Bay, Wis, Refunding
Green Bay, Wis, Sewer
Greenville, H.. Refund'ng
Griffin. Ga, Electric Light
Helena. Mont, Water Works
Hot Springs, s. Oak, School
Hyattsvillc, Md. Sewerage
Iowa Falls. Iowa, Refunding
King County. Wash, School Dis
trict No. l8, Is
Knoxville, Iowa, Judg. Funding
Knoxville. Tenn, Street Impt
Kossuth County. Iowa. AIS
La Sale, H.. Board Of Education,
School Dist. No. 2 School Bldg.
Lincoln. H., Rcfunding
Manson. Iowa, Water Works
January Ii
We own and offer over 200 dli
municipal, railroad and public
we recommend for conservat
?.35h to
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William, New York
he Office of our
Boston Correspondent
N. w. Harris & Co. Inc.
First tContinucd
MarshalItown, Iowa, Refunding
Monmouth, H.. Water Works
Montreal Tramways Co., First and
Refunding SIS
Moristown, Tenn, Water Works
Improvement
Mount Airy. N. c., Water Supply,
Electric Light and Power Plant
Moweaqua. Ill.,. School Building
Muskegon, Mich. ,Gen'lStreet Impt.
Muskegon, Mich. Refunding
Muskegon. Mich, Lake Michigan
Water Works
Oklahoma Ry. LIST Mortgage SIS
Olympia. Wash, Water Works
Owosso. Mich. Water Works
Plum Bayou, Ark, Levee District
Pontiac Township, H., School Dis
trict. High School Building
Port Huron 1t. g. Power Co.. Port
Huron. Mich. lst Mtgc. Gold
Portland General Electric Co. Port
land, Ore. First Mortgage Gold
Princeton. Mo, Refunding
Pullman. Wash, Water Works
Redwood Falls. MINI, Refunding
Richmond. Ky. School
Riverside. Ill.,, School Dist. No. 5
Rochester. N. H.. City Hall
Rosebud County. Mont, Bridge
st. Joseph, Mich. Bridge
Sandwich, H.. Municipal Improve
ment annually
Scranton Electric Co., Scranton.
Pa. First g. Refunding Mtgc Gold
Seattle, Wash, Funding First and
Second Series
Seattle, Wash. Sewer
Seattle, Wash, Sewer Tunnel
Sedalia, Mo. School District.
School Buildino
Seneca Falls, N. Y. Refundino
Spalding County, Ga, Public Imp't
Sparta, Ga, School Building
Spartansburg County, S. c., County
Refunding
Sumter. 6. c.. Sewerage
Tacoma Eastern Railroad Co.
wash, First Mortgage God
Temple. Texas. Public Independent
School Series No.
Tullahoma. Tenn. Electric Lisht
Tullahoma. Tenn, Water and Light
Tullahoma, Tenn. Water Works
Utica Electric Light g. Power Co.,
First Mortgage Gold
Valley COUNTY, Mont. 4 IS
Waitsburg, Wash. Water Works
Watchemocket, R. l., Fire Dept
West Hoboken, ". T., Funding
West Hoboken. ". J., School 4'is
White County. Tenn.
White Plains. NY. School Dist Mol
Winnetka, Ill. Park District
Woodlawn, Ala. Refunding
Second
Armour. S. OAK. Independent
School District, School Building
Florence. Col. Water Works Rcfdg.
Garrard County. Ky, Turnpike Rd.
Hot SPRINGS. s. Oak. City Hall
Ralispell. Mont, Refunding
Poplar Bluff. Mo. School District,
School Building.
Waukegan. H., Funding
Thirtcenfh
Union Light g. Phone Co.. Crystal
Lake, H., 6s
Mount Pleasant. Mich, Water
Refunding
Redfeld. S. Oak. Independent
School Dist. No. 20. School Bldg.
Scdalia, Mo, School Dist. Funding
Nineteenth
Window. MINI, Electric Light,
Water Works and Sewerage
IeStmentS
ent issues Of carefully selected
rvice corporation bonds which
investment at prices to yield
yer 5.5o5
ID Booklet TIE for investors
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TRUSTEES

WILLIAM HARkNESS.
JOSEPH Der.
WHITMAN W. KENYON,
JOSEPH LIEBMANN.
JOHN McNAMEE,
ID. w. McWILLIAMS.
HENRY A. MEYER.
CHARLES A. O'DONOHCE.
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JULIAN =. FAIRCHILD
WILLIAM HARkNESS
j. w. McWILLIAMS
WILLIAM j. WASON, Jr.
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Ole
Kings County Trust Company

CHARLES f.. PERKINS.
DICK :. RAMSAY.
n. Il. SCHARMANN,
OSWALD w. UHL.
JOHN T. UNDERWOOD.
w. NJ. VAN ANDEN.
JOHN j. WILLIAMS.
LLEWELLYN A. WRAY.
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= Editorial Comment .
o = o . . . . = = = g = . . .
FELLOWS THAT ROCK THE BOAT
lArtzona Democrat J

It IS not in good taste for demo
Gratis or democratic papers to criti-
gise democrats, but there are times
in the history Of parties and mel
when such criticisms are not only es-
tential but necessary to the life and
success OF the democratic party.
The democratic party Of Arizona
came into power one year ago under
the most favorable conditions that
ever marked the rise Of any parts
in the world. II was united, har-
mOniO1s and strong. Governor Hunt
assumed the position Of governor IN
der clear skies and had a united par
~ behind him. Now. less than twelve
months Of democratic administration
what do we frd2 A party disorgan.
lied, cliQues and squads rampant and
belligerent, trying with ell the abl.
ity at their command TO wreck the
party that made il possible for them
TO hold Office in this state. We con
fess 1uT surprise and ahagrin. The
Democrat has been no party to this
uEseeniug contest We md Senator
Cunif, as president OF the senate.
has accomplished wonders along the
line Of destruction. He fails TO find
. anything, good Just or democratic
only what bears the Cunnin brand.
Men who honestly disagree with
him We're political pirates, reaction
aries and men TO be put aside. Aid
ing and abetting the boy from Yav.
apai are several other lesser lights
all furiously rocking the boat, and
the sorry part of the whole proceed
ings is that these men are the ad
visors, political and otherwise OF Gov
eTnor Hunt This small coterie OF 20
liticai children (as children they are
in. everything pertaining 10 politics.
in order 20 retain the friendship. o.
the governor have been maligning
every reputable democrat in the state
who refused TO sanction their absuT-
dities.
The prime mistake of the governor
vas the men he appointed to Office.
As rule they are small, insineere
and Incompetent Many of them
would have to be introduced to a real
Bisbee daily review. [volume] (Bisbee, Ariz.) 1901-1971, 1913-04-15

Of the measure After condemning the
efforts Of the progressives to form
gives high praise to President Wilson
third party in congress LaFoiIetto
in the current number of his weekly.
and has this to say about the necessi-
ty of all honest men in congress Civ.
Ing him cordial support:
He WILSON, evinces a disposition
70 meet responsibilities. he is not
waiting for them 70 be thrust upon
him. He is not satisfied TO sit in his
place and distribute the sposls OF
Office. He has entered at once upon
the great task committed 70 him and
his party. He has promptly called an
extra session of congress. He is ready
to pat forth a plan for tariff revision.
Il will be followed in good time with
currency legislation, and later his adj
ministration will deal with trusts,
conservation and social wrongs, gen
orally and specially
The responsibility for this program
Is upon the democratic party. But the
minority IN the mousse ana senate must
meet its responsibility as wen, II 10
no time for trifiing or playing politics,
or trying to put the Wilson admins
tration in a hole. II is no time for
the republican party TO maneuyre for
1916. The American people demand
that money and credit and transpor-
tation, and the market place where
labor and the products of labor are
horght ana sold, be freed from the
control of powerful interests. II the
Wilson administration offers legisla-
ton which will best accomplish this
result, it is the duty of the minority
10 support that legislation. II not, il
will be the duty OF the minority to
offer better legislation instead.
No greater opportunity was ever
presented for patriotic craftsmanship
The field is open to the minority as
vel as to the majority.
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TO STAND SPONSOR EnNy
20. N.,.n
roR CHINA

The promise by President Wilson to
extend recognition to the Republic OF
China is Just what ought to have been
expected. 1t ought to have come jus;
after the election in January Of the
National Assembly which is about
10 meet to construct the framework
of 8 republican government Appeals
were made at that time by leading
citizens of China. some of whom
were officials OF the new regime. to
Washington for a friendly hand in
that exigency, which would have
meant much in the way of prestige to
China. but the request was refused.
on the ground that it was too early az
that time to be able to tell whal
would be the ultimate outcome OF the
revolution.
The United States is the eldest and
sincerest OF China's friends. It begar
to show it favors for that country
long before any body except a vision
airy ever supposed that the Manchu
honse would be driven out in our day.
Moreover, a republic was the last
thing which the average person would
have thought of to succeed the old
absolutism. Fer several months even
after he republic was proclaimed
there were strong doubts all over the
world as TO its stability. These have
now disappeared.
With the accession of China to their
ranks there are twenty-six republics
in the world, exclusive Of two or three
toy governments of that sort, sucI
as San Marine and Andorra. Twenty.
one are or the American continent.
and the rest-Switzerland France.
Portugal, Liberia and China-are in
the Old World. Among them all tbs
grand divisions of the earth are rep
resented. Even Darkest Akiea has
one of them. Except Switzerlnd, the
United States is the. ptde-t OF tbs
republics, and, save France, it is en-
iirely the most powerful and influ-
cntiaI OF them. It had a regular re-
rublicn framework, including a COM
ilete charter earlier than switzer
land In popyatton China IS the
largest of them. Indeed, with the
one-fourth Of the people OF the en-
tants than all the rest OF the repub.
tire globe. 1t contains more inhabi-
lies combined. April S. 1915, was a
sreat datemark in the spread Of HbeT.
allsm all over the earth.
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eovERRnesf OF
The CAPITAL.

The city of Washington has the
most Anticipated and rnsystematic
mode OF government to be found in
America. The laws OF the District OF
Columbia are an amazing mess of
curious legislative junk, mixture OF
old.time Maryland statutes and acts
passed at irregular intervals in the
last 100 years by congress. And the
national legislature has been Just as
susceptible TO influence" form the
interests" and TO the caprice of its
own members as the aldermen of any
city when giving their citizens what
George Randolph Chester calls "a bus.
mess administration"
How can the city become uni
hed and weI-goyerned municipality
when its accounts are kept in four
separate iedgers, audited by national
ofieials of various bureaus. SO that
they are in large measure beyond
even the knowledge of the people or
of the. governing board of the district?
Moreover. it has been shown recently
that Land held by syndiestes for spec
uiative purpose is assessed on about
one-third fits value, bus that the
woner OF small house pays taxes or
one third OF its value, but that the
The president win have the approval
of the country in any efforts he makes
TO bring the government Of the capital
10 a high level Of efficiency. He
rightly interests himself in this re-
form washington is likely to become
the most beautiful capital in the
world; it ought also to be a model
municipality
Bisbee daily review. [volume] (Bisbee, Ariz.) 1901-1971, 1913-04-15

Probably nothing will step people
when irritated at a judicial decision
or exasperated at the verdict Of a
jury from denouncing the courts as
fossils" or the creatures of the cap,
italist class. But With all the eminent
bankers who have been sent to the
ponitentiary in the past ten years. and
the acquittal Of the Lawrence strike
leaders tried for murder because lives
were lost in the strike disorders and
the release OF Haywood and Bessis,
leaders of the Paterson strike, who
had been charged with melting unlaw'
full assemblies. even the most impas.
sioiate striker or the most distin.
suished progressive leader ought to
feel some restraint in his expressions
regarding the administration Of jus
tee.
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LONGER TESTS
NEEDED.

From various cities where the
Eriedmann treatment for tuberculosis
is being tested encouraging reports
come of improvement shown by pa
tents. This is good, as far as Il
goes, but It ought not TO be consid-
cred decisive or anything more than
a condition which justihes and de-
mauds longer and very careful investi'
cation.
Many remedies for tho ''whits
plague" have been tried which
seemed for a time, to bring excellent
results. The victims of the great
scourge were often bouyed up by new
hope and courage and the things went
well with them on the surface. The
reaction came later.
All the world viii rejoice If the
Friedman cure proves more genuine
and its benefits stand conclusive
tests. but it Is cruel TO exaggerats
the meaning Of the early reports from
sufferers treated by the Berlin doctor
or under this direction Time and
scientific investigation will tell how
sure and vital the grains are, and foi
the present AL that can rightfully be
said is that nothing has been discov-
cred which inyalidatss his claims or
jastifes positive conclusions, one way
or the other.