The daily banner. (Cambridge, Md.) 1897-2008, 1913-08-06
F0RAkERAPpEARS
IN LOBBY PROBE
Denies Charges Made by Ia
mar and MuIhalL
THE HOUSE INQUIRY STARTS

Beth Ends of the Capitol Are Now
Busy Searching For the "lnsidious
Lobby"
washington, Aug. 6-Both ends OF
the capitol were busy with the search
for /ie ''insidous lobby" which here
tofore has been confined to the SEN
ate wing.
The probers OF the senate continued
their work with regard to the volumin.
ous correspondence OF Martin NJ. Mul.
hall, the iormrr lobbyist for the Ma
tional Associ ton of Manufacturers,
while the house probers got into action
and cleared the way to put Mulhall on
the grill.
1t is intimated that the house com.
mittee may not be as considerate in
handling the lobbyist as the senate
investigators have been.
Former Senator Joseph B. Foraker
of Ohio, was the chief witness before
the senate committee. He appeared to
deny many of the statements made by
Mulhall.
Foraker explained his connection
with the sale of the Union Pacific to
a reorganization committee in 1897.
which was brought into the lobby in
vestigation by David Lamar. Lamar
testified that Foraker, through influ.
ence in Washington, took leading
part in the deal, at Lamor's solicita-
tion.
Foraker testified that the Union Pa
cific owed the United States $30, 900, ,O0O.
and one proposal was that the govern.
| ment receive only part Of that sum.
Foraker swore Mat he did not figure
| in the case except in an effort to see
| that the government got the whole
| sum.
Foraker said he had known Mulhali
| since 1888, when he tForaker) was
I-eandidate for governor of Ohio He
did Hot know how active Muihall was
| in his behalf in that campaign. Il
| don't remember that | ever asked him
| to work for me. and l don't know that
I asked him not to-" he said.
| Foraker denied that he ever favored
| any legislation wanted by the National
| Association of Manufacturers, so that
he talked with Mulhall abort legisla-
ton in Washington.
Before we got SO good as we are
now" he said, 'I thought it was all
1 right to answer questions. OF course,
+ never mad xny idea that these con
3arsatiops&wsre to be made the basis
e3KS 5]ffs 81 - q
4 = denied Mulna1i's COS
t4timony of conference at which many
leading Republicans opposed to the
nomination of Taft assembled at For.
aker's house to discuss plans for con.
center opposition. mo such confer
ence was held at my house or else.
where" said Foraker.
| Il did not think Mulhall was as
| great a man as he thought he was,
and l did not think he had as great
influence as he thought he had. I did
| not take him so seriously as he did
himself" said Foraker.
In~contrast to those who have de-
! Npunced Mulhall as 'liar," Foraker
amused his hearers by the calm way
| he talked Of Mulhall's desire to appear
with prominent men, talk with them
and report what he thought they
thought to his employers.
Mulhall offered his services to For.
aker in the latter's campaign for re-
election to the senate "in return for
your many kind acts for our people,"
'Now / want to say here" said For
aker, that I never did any kind acts
for the National Association of Manu-.
facturers. I opposed what they want.
ed with the exception, perhaps, of two
or three Injunction bills. Nor do l
recall that Mulhall or any officer Of
the National Association of Manufact-
urers ever called upon me with re-
spect to a BILL
The witness read a record showing
his attitude toward labor legislation
In the senate, stating that, with one
exception, he always voted for bills
favoring labor.