Santa Fe new Mexican. [volume] (Santa Fe, N.M.) 1898-1951, 1913-06-02
ARE SEARCHING
FOR A TARIFF
LOBBY
SENATORS ON STAND ASKED TO-
GIVE NAMES OF PERSONS WHO
ARE LOBBYING FOR TARIFF Leg
ISLATI0N.
ASHURST NAMES
SEVERAL SUSPECTS

Washington d. c., June The
first senators to testify today at the
senate's investigation of the charge
that lobby is working against the
tariff bill, declared they knew OF no
improper influences being exerted;
no use of money, and had not them
selves, attempted to improperly IN
fuence any other senators. They ad-
mitted with having talked with the
manufacturers regarding the tarlH,
heard arguments and protests, but all
considered such proceedings strictly
legitimate and none considered the
men with whom they talked as lob
byists."
Senator Ashurst said, however
that "a man named McMurray had
been attempting improperly to In
Auence senators against the move
ment to cancel certain Indian con-
tracts by which McMurray is said TO
stand to receive $3,5oO,0o0. Senator
Borah referred also to "the man Sen
ator Ashurst mentioned
No person had attempted to IN
fuence him improperly, Senator
Bacon said, and he knew nothing Oh
attempts to use money for lobbylns
purposes.
81 don't thing man who comes
here to represent an interest in when
hc himself is concerned, to present ar
euments, is lobbyist" said the SEN
aTor. Neither do | think lawyer
who comes here in legitimate way
to represent reputable industry is
a lobbyist
Senator Bacon concluded by testify
ing he had heard there are two sugar
organizations in Washington, one for
free sugar and the other against It,
Bankhead Absent-Borah Called.
Senator Bankhead was called pu'
did not respond. Senator Borah TOOK
the stand.
NO" was his answer to all ques'
t;ons as to whether he was interested
in any industry or represented pro
fessionally any industry affected py
the tariff.
Harry Day and Mr.. Mccarthy, or
Idaho. he said had talked to him ABOUT
lead: Frank ]. Hagenbarth and Dr.
Mcclure, officials of the Wool Grow
els association, in regard to wool, ana
several men from Louisiana in regard
lc sugar.
The names of the latter he could not
remember.
No Money Offered.
Senator Borah said no one had al
tempted to influence him Improperly
and he had no knowledge Of the use OF
money. He told the lead and sugar
rlen he thought the bill would pass
as written and it was not worth while
to spend the time discussing it.
Il don't consider the men who call
ed on me lobbyists he added. They
we're all legally representing indus
tries which they believed would be at
fected"
He said he had seen no lobbyists
at this session.
did you see them at former ses'
sions?" asked Senator Reed.
I'VE all make up our minds about
certain men that we believe are trying
to influence legislation he said.
McMurray Again Mentioned.
Pressed for names, Senator Borah
said he regarded ''the man mentioned
by Senator Ashurst as interested in Sc
curing certain land legislation"
Washington, D. c., June 2.--The
search for tariff lobby such as
President Wilson had declared was
in Washington, began today with the
senate judiciary subcommittee hold
ing open hearings.
Every senator was prepared to an
swer a series of eleven questions to
determine whether he had any per.
sonal interest in the tariff or other
legislation and to find out what per.
sons have approached him in the eff
fort to influence his action on sched'
ules of the tariff.
A committee of senators composed
of Oyerman and Reed held long con
ference with President Wilson. The
impression is that the president
might furnish a list of names of those
whom he believes to be lobbyists .
Ashurst Called First
Senator Ashurst was the first call
ed. He testified that he was not per
sonally interested in any manner con
cerning any pending legislation. He
said he had not kept a record of those
who had talked with him concerning
matters before congress, but that he