The San Francisco call., 1913-07-31


compete for traffic. Yours truly.
Z. E. CALVIN.
LETTER FROM UNION OFFICERS
Second, letter signed by T. A.
Gregg, vice president of the order OF
Railway Conductors; r. Mcintyre, vice
road Tranmen; 5. Yeatch, general
chairman of the Order of Railway
Conductors, and E. A. Lar Rieu, general
chairman of the Brotherhood of Rail
road Trainmen, under date of July 8,
1913, and addressed to said +. Il. Cal
vim, as follows:
San Francisco. Cal.
July s, 1913.
Mr. +. F.. Calvin, vice president
Southern Pacific company. Pacific
system; Flood building. .rity.5 o
Dear Sir: Your communication
of June Is received. in whieh YOU
outline proposed arrangement for
operation of Alameda county cleo
tric lines; also for operation Of the
lines OF Portland. Eugene and East
ern railway, under nlanag genents
separate from the Pacific system
lines of the. Southern Pssciffc COM q
panS, and afier carefully consider
ing ii in every detail we are att
thosized to- advise you that there
are several provisions contained in
NoHr decision that can not be ae-
Cepsed. Therefore, Your plan is not
accepted in its entirety, but in an
endeaver TO reach an amicable set
uement of these questions we are
tes to- submit the following as
tentative propositions:
We accept your plan of operating the
two electric properties, as outlined In
Your letter of June 2s in 50 far as it
affects the seniority of the mex cin-
NolVed on each property and the inter-
change of rights; the properties to be
operated under any plan of manage
ment that TO the Southern Pacific ma =
seem advisable provided, however, THAI
the present schedule of rates of pay and
working conditions for trainmen be
continued in force and effect intact
and without any change in the method
OF handling grievances, except that To-
cal committees will be elected for the
electric service. such local committees
TO deal with the electric officials as
ether local committees now deal with
any other local officials of this COM
pany. and If the local committees for
the electric divisions fail TO reach a
settlement of any questions in hand
such committees to have the right to
appeal to the general committees for
the southern Pacific company. which
they VIII remain part of. and the gen
eral committee or general chairman
VIII be met and dealt with by the conf
Dany IN these cases in precisely the
same manner as adj other matters are
handled; and, further provided. that IL
the electric service is extended to such
an extent that steam line crews are
permanently suppianted. because of in
VaS1on of steam territory or where
steam lines are electrified and turned
over to be operated by electric di-
visions. such men who are supplanted
or turned over cor other men. to the
extent in number of those supplan1ed
or turned over). viii be given the
right to bid in TO electric service. car
ry1ng their seniority with them. but
IN electric. service when they accept
such transfer.
We suggest a conference with YOU on
this subject at your earliest eonven-
f.rl1
T. A. GREGG.
Vice President. o. T. G.
r. MCINTYRE.
Vice President b. r. T.
s. VEATCH
General Chairman, O. r. G..
e. A. LAR RTEU,
General Chairman. b. oR T.
CALvIN'S REPLY
Third, letter signed by said E. F.
Calvin in answer to said letter of July
s, 1913, and under date of July IL, 1913,
addressed TO said #. A Gregg r. Me
lntyre. 5 Veatch and E. A. Lar Rieu.
July II. 1913.
Mr.. T. A. Gregg. vice president O.
* G.. care Argonaut hotel San
Francisco
Mr.. r. Mcintyre. vice president 3.
f. T.. care A-gonaut hotel san
Francisco.
Mr.; s veateh. general chairman o.
X; {. 435 Pacific building, San
Mr.. Z. A. Lar Rieu. general chair
man +. X. T.. 436 Pacific build
ing, San Francisco
Dear Sirs
Confirming my verbal statement
10 you this morning. would say
mat the changes proposed in yours
culE TO the plan outlined in mine
or June 2S would not work out sat
lsfactorIlT and can not be accepted
py US A committee such as the
one ! met iii this matter, consist
~ ma "
OF New Mexico, Arizona, California.
Nevada, Utah and Oregon, wotfld
have no knowledge nor appreeia
ton OF conditions on electric lines
IN Portland and vicinity where we
are to be in sharp competition with
other lines and where the demands
OF the public as to the character of
the service required of us will be
more than usually exacting Neither
could We consider for a moment
agreeing in advance as to future
electric lines. Each situation will
have to be worked out upon its own
merits In the cases that have
fault found with our treatment of
f. E. CALVIN.
Fourth-A letter under. date OF July
-. 1919 in answer to said letter Of
July II, 1913. addressed to said T. Z,
calvin and signed by said Gregg. Nc
intyre, Neatch and Lar Rieu, as fol-
lows:
July IL. 1913
Mr.. f +. Calvin. vice president
$ p Co. Pacific system, Flood
building, City,
Dear Sir: Your final decision
under date of JaIy IL received and
we are authorized to reply as fol-
lows:
We regret that your final de-
cision. which means that no set
tlement of the electric questions
can be made by us with YOU with
out full and complete separation :
Of the rights of the men and com
mittees. as well as the issuance
OF separate schedules to cover those
parts of the system which will be
operated by electricity. can not be
accepted by us
Having exhausted every effort at
our command in trying to reach
an amicable settlement Of these
questions, without result this will
confirm our verbal statement made
to You Yesterday that the whole
subject matter wiE be referred to
the men whom We represent for
their vote. This vote Shouts be
returned within 10 days or two
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