New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-10-10
TRUTH IN SULZER CASE
DEMANDED BY SENATOR
Palmer, to Whom Governor ana
Wife Told Their Story, ASKS
That They Testify.
HORGAM KNOWS FACTS, TOO
Impeachment Court Will Be Re-
ouested to Hear Witnesses
When Arguments End,
Ulster Man Promises.

rFrorn a staff Correspondent OF The Irioune'l
Albany. Oct 9-Senator Abraham J.
Palmer. Of Ulster, to whom Governor and
Mrs. Sulzer told their entire story on the
night Of August u, a few hours before the
Governor was impeached by the Assembly,
EXPRESSED his dissatisfaction tonight with
the status Of the Gaze. The Senator, VINO
Is a retired Methodist clergyman, said that
the court had not vet heard the whole
truth" of the case. and he thought steps
should be taken which would insure the
whole truth" being put into the record
Il have conducted innumerable ecclesi'
astical trials" he said. "over small mat
tiers. many Of them. it is true, but l speak
of the method. In those trials we fol-
lowed the custom Of inviting those per-
sons who knew the truth of matter be-
fore our court and just having them tell
that truth.
There are four people who know the
truth Of the matters concerned In TINS
trial. They are Sarecky. Horgan' Gov
ernor and Mrs. sulzer. sarecky we have
heard from. Horgan has been in attend
ance all through the trial and Governor
and Mrs sulzer should be invited 10 at
tend and tell us the truth.
"Of course. am layman, so far as
the law is concerned but I do not see
why the law should step in to interfere
with the court in ascertaining the whole
truth"
1t was suggested 10 the Senator that the
Governor and Mrs. Sulzer could have
taken the witness stand had they desired
to do so.
well. they should have been invited to
do So" he commented.
Senator Palmer was asked whether the
story he had heard in court was at va
rance in any way with what he had rea-
son to believe was the truth Of the case
NO" he said II should say that there
have not been any contradictions but the
story we have heard in court is not the
whole of the truth in the matter, and
that is what we ought to get.
Remember that I have not said that
I have made up my mind about this. AS
I understand my duty. it is 10 consider
only what 1 heard from the witness
stand. After that I will listen TO what
the judges may instruct or advise US as
10 the law and then will make my de-
cision, and not until then"
II was suggested 10 the Senator that
the only possible inference 10 be drawn
from his remarks was that the story he
had been told on the night of August y
by the Governor and Mrs. Sulzer would
go far toward explaining much of the ac-
cusatory matter now standing undenied
against the Governor.
well. I want TO explain to you that l
have no patience with this idea that Mrs.
sulzer should not be called upon TO take
the stand" he said. Mrs. Sulzer is
very capable woman. abundantly able to
take care Of herself on the witness stand.
and the story she might tell would assist
the court in determining the truth.
81 have never told any one what heard
en- August ~ and that story should be
made public When saw Senator Fraw-
ley that night asked him whether II
would tell him some things had learned
he would try to delay and hold up the i'm
parchment, at least. until he had investi-
gated the story could tell him. He said
he knew everything that l knew and so
let the matter drop. but I think the
story should be told, and for that purpose
Governor and Mrs. Sulzer should be in
vited 20 take the stand"
Senator Palmer said he would suggest
such a course when the court came to the
point of celebrating on and considering
the case when the arguments are finished