The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1913-07-30

&c Leader Scores Lobbyist
80 lie. l. r" and -Four
Ilusher" to Face
DENIES INTERVIEWS
DETAILED BY WITNESS
Points to Contents of Letter
" hich He Declares Oilers
Proof of false Statements

WASHINGTON. July 29.-Shaking
his finger accusingly at Colonel NJ. NJ
Mulhall. Representative Oscar ". Un'
derwood, house floor leader, today
told the senate lobby investigating
committee that the self-confessed N
A. NJ. lobbyist was liar and black
mailer. Underwood was angered al
Mulhalrs confessions, concerning
alleged conferences lie had with the
Alabama member.
He Interrupted the committees pro-
eeedings in a dramatic appeal shortly
after the session convened.
rs that Mulhall? ?" he demanded, In
dicating the lobbyist We'll, never
saw him before. tell you. II Ism
right t. let a man like this attack pub
lie men, particularly when he IL
blacknlsiling the men whom he work
ed for. That man was never In my
committee room.
You say blackmail. Mr. Under
WOODY" queried Senator Reed Thai
means a demand for money"
Well" said Underwood Il don't
want to merely make statement.
want to be put under oath. ] sent my
ianitor here, TO deny Mulhall's state
ments All die was sent back"
Other subordinates have denied
Muhall's testimony too" retorted
Reed, but afterwards We saw re-
ceipts for money paid them.
In his sworn statement, Underwood
verbally dashed Mulhall. repeatedly
accusing him OF telling untruths and
Of "four-tiushing
Never Knew Emery.
This letter itself manifestly shows
he Is lying he asserted. referring 10
one in which Underwood's name was
mentioned. IL don't know Mr.. Emery
and John Kirby, Jr.. and positively
never talked TO either OF them on
labor matters. His whole statement
liz made out Of whole cloth. To show
you how this man lied. he states there
was al issue about making Represent
alive Wilson, OF Pennsylvania, chair
man Of the labor committee. There
was no such issue.
This man was lying. He was mere
ly trying to make these people believe
he was doing something to earn his
money Id know that mans face If
Senator Reed called Underwood
attention to the fact In Mulhall's let
ter that Mulhall was merely repeating
what Kirby was supposed TO have told
him OF conference he had had with
Underwood.
There must have been some basis
TO this" he insisted
II never conferred with Kirby" an
swered Underwood II may have
talked to him In the corridor But the
personnel OF that labor committee In
1910 shows that II could not have
been satisfactory TO an anti.labor or.
ganiZa'ion."
Republican members OF the com
mttee and Mulhall himself were In
clined to argue the question with I'm
derwood
Senator Walsh read a letter from ]
A. Emory TO Mulhall enclosing two
checks for s25 to be given TO Harry
Neal and Harry Thornton, janitors o!
the speakers room. and ways and
means committee room.
How about these?"
Calls II Libel.
Did the ianitors get the money?
Underwood demanded.
Il am not defending the n. A. VI
Their conduct has been represensible
bu' when this man Mulhall writes
what he does of me, he is commit
'''g a libel"
Nulhall, replying. insisted he paid
Z "@erTood's janitor regularly for two
ears.
IT know oNer 7 rrc'"ca ether wit
70 7es Mr. v '---"oo' III q INIT .ha,
part OF his s's or trt \ o'ci6l re.
he lchNTis' Y 81 "wher YOU
bend me as vo" Il here, will say
Rat I've en lo-r cn'; OF leading Re
""hlicRns as 70 nv truthfulness and
believe ! my pr os are put with
yours beore the people, III stand as
clear as you"
I'm not areuing standards" I'm
derwood retorted.
Mulhall objected to being called q
Ear without being given a chance to
defend himself. and Senator Reed
supported him.
Counsel for the National Associa.
tn OF Manufacturers, and the Amer
=" Federation Of Labor. today pre-
@''ed 70 train their guns on Martin
W. Mulhall before lie senate lobby
investigating committee. in an effort
o break down the damaging testi
mony contained IN the 5000 letters
which the committee has been read.
ing for three weeks.
1t became apparent when the com.
mittee convened that the cross.exam.
nation would not be reached before
late in the afternoon Robert McCar.
ter, counsel for the n. A. NJ, early an.
nounced a large series OF questions
which the committee will first exam.
Inc before they allow them to be put
TO the witness. Many OF the questions
deal with items In Mulhal's expense
account, which the n. A. M. claims Is
padded"
In an oF'cial statement II was O.
dared that Mulhall had received
bout $4,000 for salary and expenses
over the period OF 10 years that he
was connected with the association
His expense accounts show over
5000 900 for this period
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