The Washington herald. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1906-1939, 1913-07-03

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.sfactcry II could see you and I will
be glad to make an appointment for you
to see me this afternoon. and will tell
you the whole Of my intervief with Lau-
tefbach.
Wanted 10 Confer.
".Palmer' refused to grant an inter-
view until after he could have a confer
ence with Senator Stone. the Speaker,
and Mr.. Henry
THE next day when Palmer again
called up. this time at Ledyard's home,
Ledyard held him on his listed phone
while he went to his unlisted phone and
had the call traced. I got the report of
the manager. who told me that the tel
cphone which was then connected with
my 1852 Lenox wire was No. 5Ss7 River
side, and 1t was in the name OF Mario
Lamar. and that the address was 36s
Riverside Drive. CThe address Lamar
gave in his statement as his home ad-
dress).
Lamar, according to Ledyard. said he
had had the conference, but that 1t had
teen decided that they had better not
discard the services of Mr.. Lauterbach
as an intermediary. He said that to do
so would ALLEVIATE the very necessary CO.
operation of a gentleman who would as
sumo a very important position in the
coming administration He referred To
the Attorney General"
Il said: I have heard you were to
occupy that position. Mr.. Palmer oh,
no. he said: nothing would induce me
to accept that position. I shall not be
Attorney General Lamar wanted
Ledyard to see Lauterbach again.
Mr.. Ledyard continued.
He said: He will have received his
full instructions. Palmer again re-
fused to grant a personal interview.
money was made in the interview
with Lauterbach. Ledyard should
break II of. The only object I have.
and those who were prominent in these
mAtters with me, is the good OF the
country and the preservation Of inter-
ests which ought to be preserved and
the success of the Democratic party.
Real Palmer on Other Wire.
While this conversation was going
on. Mrs. Ledyard was holding the real
Mr.. Palmer on the other wire.
That same day Ledyard saw Lauter-
bach at his house. Lauterbach told
Ledyard that it was stated the second
time he went to see steele he had rep
resented Speaker Clark.
Well" he said. when / went to
them in the second stage you referred
to IL after / had been authorized
to do so by Senator Stone. l come
here now authorized to lay certain
matters before you
He then told Ledyard II was stated
of several things the radicals in Con-
gress might attempt unless controlled.
and permitted Ledyard to take notes
Ind Of
versation. He said. according to Led
yard. the conservatives could control
the radicals in this. and would do so. II
the Morgan interests would agree to
certain stipulations. He said II was
desired that he. Lauterbach. should be
the intermediary through which the
desired results might be brought about.
He would like to receive for such serv-
ices a reasonable fee. but this would
not be a commission. Other conditions
were that any pledges given to Roose-
welt or the Progressive party should be
stated; that no campaign contributions
should be given to any party. and that
the aid of Morgan and the steel people
should be invoked to secure the sup
port Of certain Southern Senators.
whose names were not given to any
Democratic party program. including
tariff. income tax. and universal peace
He said that a third feature was added
because it was dear to the heart OF
W. J. Bryan.
Mentions Senator stone.
He said: I come here by authority
of Sneaker Clark and I have made all
these suggestions bs his authority I
said: Have you seen Mr.. Clark your
self personally He said: 1 have re-
ceived my instructions to come and see
YOU and lay these matters before you
directly from Senator Stone. acting on
behalf of Speaker Clark.
He said that Stone had told him that
ne was speaking for Clark and that he
previously had gotten information in ad-
vance from Stone as to Clark's domi-
nance of the Democrats.
Does Clark know that this interview
between you and myself is taking place
or that it has been arranged to take
place-this present interview l asked.
He said: He knows that this or some
like interview is arranged for
After he had concluded his state
ment / read over to him the notes which
l had taken and he pronounced them cor
rect. When he left, l said: Mr.. Lau-
terbach. 1 will take time to consider
your statements.
at Stroudsburg Immediately and gave
him the substance of his interview with
Palmer said that he wish
ed to tell Majority Leader Underwood.
who was his close friend, and get his
Judgment as to further procedure. To
this Ledyard agreed.
Ledyard said that he had employed
Burns detective in an effort to get fur
Their information. The detective told him
that he must lead Lamar on and Led
yard had refused to do this, and so in
formed the real Palmer in a'letter which
he wrote him shortly after reviewing
the entire series of telephone CONVERSE
lions with Lamar and personal inter-
views with Lauterbach.
Senator stones Denial.
Senator Stone of Missouri entered the
hearing room with blood in his eye as
Ledyard was completing his testimony.
Where is this man who has been lying
about me?" asked the irate solon, evil
IDENTIFY believing Lauterbach was within
reach of his strong right arm. He was
informed that Lauterbach had returned
to New York. Stone took the witness
stand after Ledyard concluded. He was
only on a few minutes
Il know nothing about Lamar" he
said. IF I ever saw Mr.. Lauterbach I
have no remembrance of it. I am not
able to swear that I never saw either.
have seen scores of men since l have
been a member of the Senate. 1 swear
without any sort of qualification that the
statement made by Mr.. Lauterbach to
Mr. Ledyard is an absolute falsehood.
had no conversation of that kind.
never talked to Speaker Clark about the
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