The Detroit times., 1913-10-06
SN0DGR ASS and DOYLE
Will BE OUT OF The SERIES
noddy Has Charley Horse Yet
and Doyle,s Shoulder Is
Still Bad
!nlUSS OVER THE TICKETS
IS AGAIN STIRRED UP
D0atty and Bend Slated To
Start the Battle-Giants
Cav0rt Today
sy HAL SHERIDAN.

By HAL shERiDAN.
NEW YORK, Oct. 6.-There was a
Instinct lust before battle air in
|CoW York today. With the last games
nGured and the hnal bit Of dope car
|1od out to the limit. the only thing
III was to wait for the opening strug-
~ between the Athletics and Giants
morrow.
~ . final topic Of discussion. how
|ger. the possibility OF Fred Snodgrass
Roong kept out OF the Giant lineup has
H&bbed up. Indications today were
1T 0nodgrass might not be able to
'e into the early games, at least. The
nslay horse which he mounted In
ooklyn . couple OF weeks ago ID
N With him to some extent. II may
8 eompletely worked out before the
E1oo start, but should Snodgrass not
" able to appear. Title Shafer will
Gnobly 90 to the outfeld and Herzog
porform at third base.
1ded to the trouble OF Snodgrass,
E1o admitted that Larry Doyle 10 not
tho best Of shape. His shoulder. In
~ In IN automobile accident, -
W = little sore. Doyle probably has
fk0f4eF chance Of starting In the BE-
o than Suodgrass, but McGraw. will
t take any chances of Larry pulling
throw or failing to hit because
1.-THE shoulder.
Efxho Giants would be materially
nkened without the services or
&y1o and Snodgrass. Shafer could sit
6or 0nodgrass and Herzog look af-
third. and there would be no loss
= knitting or batting strength. With
Tlo out, however. the situation
Suld be different. Shafer would then
70 second and Mccormick would
0bably be sent to the outfield.
r1ios condition IL not serious. but
~ has not been playing up to form
~ mile.
}sAD no worlds series 10 complete
4IkAout muss over the tickets. 1t
peared that the annual protest from
0 fans and the explanation from the
INMATES was well on the way today.
6ousands OF out-of-towh followers
1he two teams arrived here Sunday
nc ~, only to discover that all
yod {seats had been sold for the
De game. The only way the local
- we'll o. the visitors, have OF
I1nGontng the FIRST combat IL to take
teF place III line tomorrow morning
1 scramble for the unreserved Sec
ne. Last year about 1000 reserved
n1s we're left to be place on sale
Eoe the demands OF the national
nmiSolon and other base ball organ
e1ons had been met.
Y ocretary Foster, of the Giants, to-
~ vigorously denied that there was
~ chance that the tickets issued
o16 fall into the hands of specula-
III There was an ingrown desire on
RI pArt Of thousands frozen out. how
nrs to learn from the national COM
oolon just where the pull" that
18Qpt away $4,000 seats came from.
E.}EAo national commission met today
10 o'clock to have it's final say.
II m Of this Say" may be as to ~
poo1tiOn Of the tickets Whether the
oxf9 with the ball playing author
~ be pressed further apparently
1910 on the attitude Ban Johnson
ID take when the commission opens
- discussion. The players are writ
= 10 their hearts content, and Chair
nn Hermann seemed to favor dror
nI the argument until after the Sc
- He 10 firm In his stand however.
14 rule should be passed prohibit
boee ball reporters being over.
kQd through writing the stuff over
cb the name of some player APP
Ia WAS accepted In New York today
W 0ath0wDon and Bender would be
W. oppooing pitchers tomorrow. No
4 knew. but as the switch from
oktv resulted In q defeat when Tes-
|on eearted last year. the Giant fol-
Uto were congfident that McGraw
Don look to the "old master" for the
on1nG effort.
ec0rAw's chief concern today was
keeping the minds of his charges
49, Of tom0rrow's battle As final
WITHOUT and something to keep their
r1n0s occupied, the Giants will play
Qhibition game with the Phillies
I'D afternoon. The regulars will 20
Joug enough to get warmed up and
8 o. the finishing touches. Then
otp will be fungo hitting. base run
~ and q 100-yard dash with jim
Kpe, Tilly Shafer and Lobert, OF
Entllies. as the starters.
~ Athletics will arrive in Ny
NJ late today. Connie Mack has -
- fDr . hnal secret practice al
~ park during the morning. but q
viii be taken that will lanc
ID - New York in time for dinner
Ie4r the game tomorrow both teams
hoard private cars and hustle tc
o6e3phia for the night. No one
- permitted to disturb the prize
~ vefters. Private detectives will
Murders out Of the car. and a
al detective has been assigned to
xxler the umpires.