The evening world., 1913-07-02

/ that Lauterbsch was q sort Of John the
Baptist for the Morgan frm." sug-
sesteL Senator Nelson.
That's II exactly" returned Lamar.
II called up Mr.. Palmer's once In
Washington" said Lamar With smile.
land found Ne would be In Bethlehem.
Pa. the next Sunday. Then I called Mr..
Ledyard and told him to call Palmer
there. had done all wanted to.
had obtained an interview for Lauter-
bach with Ledyard. and didn't want
Mr.. Palmer injured. I wanted to clear
the atmosphere and prevent a possible
scandal for Palmer"
The deception was revealed to Palmer
and Ledyard that Sunday.
Senator Overman insisted on knowing
II Lamar ever impersonated any other
Congressman.
"oh. Lord. may have" calculated
Lamar.
Lamar diverted from his narrative TO
denounce the Union Pacific merger
plan recently approved by the Federal
Court at st. Paul and which was
agreed tc by Attorney General Nc
Reynolds and approved BY President
Wilson.
SAYS LAMAR IS NOT HIS REAL
NAME.
Senator Cummins questioned Lamar
sharply and in the exchange the wit
ness testified he was q Methodist
and that Lamar was not his original
name He declined to give that
II have had several Names" he said.
Mr.. Cravath with the consent OF the
committee. asked Lamar II he had ever
tried to inspire newspaper stories about
the Union Pacific.
"xhs day bsfors Judge LovsSs
rave out his interview In New
York." said Lamas, ~ inspirsA ana
helped 10 arrange for the publ
cation az . story that appeared IN
the New York journal" said La.
mar. Ne added he had tsIksd
over the telephone directly with
editors Of the journal, he thought
with . man named o'1eilly.
"Did Mr.. Lauterbach know Of thisr
asked Mr.. Cravath.
I'VE had agreed to make public our
objections to the railroad dissolution
plan." replied Lamar.
WHERE NE GOT STORY ABOUT
UNION PACIFIC.
Cravath demanded to know where
Lamar got his Information about the al
legged Union Pacific forgery. Lamar re-
piled he did not secure full information
until recently. He said he had never
seen the Union Pacific books. and that
the first suggestion Of the matter came
from Thomas Gibson. a financial writer
In New York.
Paul D. 0rsvath, counsel for
the Unio1 Yaoaao, n . prepared
statement TO the committss, de-.
c1srsa 1anax's charge Of forgery
covering ~, 100000 on the Unioa
Pacific books was part Of . bsar
attack on Union Paddle stock Of
which the railroad officials had
had knowledge for several days.
I'VE were informed In substance"
said Cravath's statement. that this
story was 10 paipably false and scan
dalous and % plainly offered for an
Improper purpose. that the newspapers
would not publish h. Information then
camo that the story would soon be
made public In such q way that the
newspapers would have to publish II.
1T now appears that the medium
for the publication for this story was
to be this man. David Lamar. who has
confessed himself to be tho most UNI
considerable OF liars of modern times.
Senator Overman asked Mr.. Crxvath
to strike out tho last words Of his
statement.
II decline" retorted Mr.. Cravath.
Senator Walsh insisted they 20 out
and Mr.. Cravath finally consented.
lEDYARD TELLS OF TALKS
OVER THE PHONE.
Lewis Cass Ledyard testified that foI
two years previous to Lamar's telephone
| conversations with him he had knowi.