The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1913-09-26

Schifr. shaking his head. IT think that
IL Governor Sulxer had come to me at
any time for check for $4,000. l would
have given IL TO him"
Had YOU heard Of any change OF
circumstances of William Sulzer at
any time previous to this $4,000 check,
except hts nomination. inquired
Brackett. "Whether he had sufrerod
his no;nination?'
II had not" said Mr.. SchiN. SMILING.
You had not for at least n year
prior to this tin,c given him any checks,
d aisr you 40 "0' '''ai' that you ever
Il do not recall that ever gave him
any money OF any kind" said Mr..
Sch!G. positively.
YOU knew that he was at tho time
5 member OF Congress-"
4 did: l do"
Conerc..men Get Salaries.
"And YOU knew that as a member
OF Congress lie received a salary?"
~ know that members of Congress
receive salaries"
He has told YOU he knew" inter
rupted Justice Cullen. there is no use
OF asking the witness whether a mem
her did not receive II: he did not re-
oeive the salary II he did not draw IT,
II is matter of common knowledSe
that members OF Congress receive SAL
aries
is the notation on the front OF the
oheck. ON the corner?" asked Brackett.
and which YOU say was not put on
rEtil the year--some time In the year
1918. just prior TO the time that the
check went To Mr.. Richards. the coun-
sci for the Frawley COMMITTEES? Is
That IN Eour own handwriting?"
II is
Gives Former Answer.
Did YOU intend to put on there
truthfuily the purpose for which the
check had been drawn"
To this question the witness replied:
refer you TO my answer of yestcr-
DAY, and let IT stand as the answer
for to-day"
Jus; say now, did you or didn't
you?' said Judge Cullen.
This was written" said Mr. Schifr
Yes or no, MIR. SchirT' said Bruck-
cit
NO, he cannot answer yes or no."
interrupted the judge.
Mr. Richards said Mr.. Schih, was
standing at my desk and asked for
the check. promised to give him
tho check. AS ! explained Yesterday,
that was not my own check 1t was
the check OF my firm, Kuhn, Loeb &
Co. and since there might be no mis-
understanding and no misinterpreta-
ton aa TO why that was the check of
Kuhn. Loeb Il Co, put on such nota-
tton in q quick way and gave IL to
Mir. Richards
Personal Expense.
Was this check in any way charged
on the books of Kuhn, Loeb & Coz
1T was charged TO my personal &C
count"
Was it then charged or was the So
300 then charged in your personal
books in any way?'
II was charged by Kuhn. Loeb &
co. 10 my personal account, and by
reason Of his II passed into my books
as expenses
Was there any notation OF the pur-
pose for which 1t had gone on your
personal account books:"
Except that it had gone TO Will
liam Sulzer. no doubt, or TO Louis
NO explanation of the purpose for
which IL went7"
There wasn't"
Cannot Change Testimony.
ne prosecution opened FIRE thus
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'aen; maj he gave Srlzer the $500
for a-iy J.urpuse whatever The prose
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T'psEltle ig-ai-st re Governor, and
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peachu.ent followed t. dete,se
fought hard, for 'hey knew M: j, ,a=
witness was al!owe1 u TESTIFY ne
would he followed by al Tie cortribu-
tors 10 the Governor WHO could he
caught IN the prraef.ut.Gu cTae net
ana that . ruEnt.-r - ~ ,ip.ise. vvouId
be sure 70 be sprung Or them.
Throw Open Gates.
After an hour of argument, lydg"
Cullen announced his opinion that his
evidence should be admitted. The en-
tire company OF justices ana Senators
agreed. and threw open the gates 10 a
food ~ testimony such az even the
prosecution had not expected TO get IN
II was tho worst blow Sulzer has
YET sustained
Former Senator Charlcs 4 stad!er.
president Of the American alaI,ing
Company, and Charles Dersch. a saley-
man OF the same company, were the
witnesses who told OF the contributions
hy brewers and Of Suffers preference
10Y cash Instead OF checks. Stadlcr
told how Sul2cr had invited him 10
come to his ofilcc prior TO h!s nom,na-
zion ana had said.
You can help mo more than one
way nnd Won know what you can DO
81 told him thought understood
The situation. ana would do what
could" added Stadler
Goes TO "FOurtccnth street"
M SulzeT requested mo TO go to
I'GlI-tspr'b MI ~,
hin there. did went TO Four
feenth street ana saw the parties in
lower. talked tho matter over and rec
commended Mi SulzHr'c nomination.
end promised If they gave him their
support. / would 40 I'll could for
him. and al thnt my friends could do
ana then subsequently reported back
70 Mn -ul2er what had done. and he
thanked me"
After the nomination Stadlcr
explained Ne began coilccting
money from lis frendp for suffers