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commission to hire such an investiga-
tor?''
Yes. certainly glad to; it's good
idea" and the stocky witness nodded
his iron gray head enphatically. Ask
ed what he thought a girl could sup-
port herself on Independently, Hillman
said IS or 81 a week.
II could live on $12 myself, yes. /
could squeeze through on $40, think"
he added.
$50 IS or 50 would sustain girl In
Chicago but it would not leave for the
movies and soda would it?' observed
Senator ;Juul.
No. guess YOU can't get frivolous on
that" laughed Hillman.
James Simpson, of Marshall Field &
Co. who declined yesterday to disclose
the profits of his firm, has agreed to
an inspection of the books
Hillman also agreed to do the same.
"Grow or Co"
Senator Beall. addressing Hillman, as
self made man. asked ii he gave his
employees the same chance to advance
that he had
You bet" replied the merchant. I'VE
want them to advance. Why. there is
sign in my office. Grow or Co.
Senator Tossey asked If there was
tacit agreement among the retailers
whereby one would not outbid the 9TH
er to obtain desirable clerk. The an
clerk was always leaving one firm
to go with another
Representative Lloyd informed the
witness that the report of the Chicago
vice commission showed that many de-
partment store girls lead lives OF
shame. This was news to Hillman,
who denied any such condition In his
store.
Why" he exclaimed. ''let me tell you
about one of those Washers, who are
always taking up the time of the girls.
Two weeks ago one Of our detectives
caught one of them and. honest, when
that bull got through with him he was
sight. Honest he got more than WAS
coming to him.
Asked what he thought OF the moral
standards OF the girls at Hillman's. Mr..
Hillman said he thought they We're
high. Come on over and size EN- up"
he invited, you can tell as much about
EN- as 1 can
Senator On the Job.
Turning to Senator Beall, he made
the invitation specific. 'I'll show you
around myself
Beall. formerly known as the "stork"
mayor of Alton, ILL.,, replete in white
vest and a large diamond stud, laughed
and said:
.1'll be there"
The Opposing Views.
nothing to do with morality among
women The women who have fallen
think low wages have everything to do
with it"
That was the way a member OF the
state senate vice committee summed
up the conflicting testimony given at
the hearing yesterday. Arrayed on one
side We're Julius Rosenwald. president
OF Sears. Roebuck & Co, James Simp-
son. vice president of Marshall Field
& Co. f. f. Mandel, president of Man
del Brothers, and Roy Shayne. presi-
dent OF John r. Shayne & Co
Their firms employ many thousands
of girls and women. On the other side
We're a half dozen denizens Of the
.tsnderloin,' brought before the COM
nlfttee on Jane Doe" warrants.
Case Of Juveniles"
The committee explained to the em-
ployers that 1t wished information
bearing on bill now pending in the
Legislature establishing minimum
The employers held this figure to be
excessive and declared the law an I'M
possibility. 1t developed that practical
~ all the women employed in the retail
stores live at home and much time was
Consumed in discussing a proper wage
for those so situated. The employers
took the position that they are under
no obligation to pay errand girls and
other unskilled help classed as juven-
ile' a living wage as such employees are
assumed TO be entitled to a living at
the expense of their parents.
Senator Ncls JUL of the committee
insisted that the other members OF
working girls family earn no more than
enough to support themselves and that
if amy member of such family earns
less than a living wage the family suf-
fers. ia
Wages and Environments.
Mandel and Rosenwaid expressed the
opinion that girls character and her
environment. shape her life. Wages
have little to do with ~, mey sald.
They laid stress on environment
But does not a living wage or q
wage under that have much to do with
environment ~ queried Lieut.. GOV.
O'Hara, chairman OF the committee.
This Was admitted.
If a girl cannot live on her income,
don't you think that with the pitfalls
which surround young woman. an
immoral life offers the easiest way
out?" Mandel was asked.
Not if She is the right kind Of a
girl; if she is starving and immoral
l. ty is repugnant to her as It should be.
she can &c into domestic service.
! .swhat?' exclaimed Senator Juul do
YOU think there is enough places Tor
domestics to take care Of all the under
paid girls and women working In stores
..,rhose servants are mighty scarce"
smiled the witness.
Mandel's Idea of Necessities.
Mandel expressed the opinion that IS
lis a living wnge for girl dependent on
herself alone.
jun asked him to show how this
should be spent to provide the neces-
| stiles of life. After Mandel had enum-
Grated 81 for clothes( % cents for laun-
dry. 81 for board and room, so cents Tor
| sickness, 10 cents for lunches, go cents
| for carfare and 10 cents for the collec-
| ton box in church, JUL declared that
| these items include only about half the
girls necessary expenses Mandel in
| sisted. however. that the committee
man should not disregard the fact that
most employees live at home and are
not entirely dependent on Themselves
EMuLATEs RUBBER BALL. :
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