Norwich bulletin., 1913-06-27
Somebody Has Been Using it to Create impression
 That Certain Members Could be Influenced
CONGRESSMAN PALMER TELLS OF EXPERIENCE
Lawyer1 edyard Called Up by Man Puportng be Palmer and Told That He Might be of Service to Interests Repre- scented by Lawyer-Ledyard Aranges For Personal h. terview and Meets Lawyer Lauterbach, Says Palmer

1 thinking that perhaps as member of the house ought to know about it.
 Evaded Personal Interview.
 Mir Ledyard endeavored to get a personal interview with the man. He fought shy of that. saying. as l recol- feet it, that no good purpose could be accomplished from a personal inter l him later and even went so far as to declare that in the next day or so he I was obliged to be in Bethlehem, which is my district so that he could not meet Mir. Ledyard at an hour which Mir. Ledyard suggested for a confer ] ence.
 "Mr. Ledyard, through the telephone company and I think through various other agencies. made a very earnest effort to locate the person who talked | with him over the telephone The | best he could do was to trace the tel ephone calls and he traced them to a place which satisfied him as to who ] the party was
 Should Call Ledyard. eff the committee wants to go into it further it seems to me Mir Led yard should be called and I will leave it for him to say what he found out as to who this party was.
 This person who declared that he was Representative Palmer when Mr.
 
 sonal interview with him, declared that he would name person in whom MT. Ledyard would have confidence and to whom he could talk freely and who would be able to produce evidence that he and this alleged Representative Palmer would be able to do what they said.
 Lawyer Lauterbach Appeared.
 TThose statements finally led to MT. Ledyard's making an appointment to meet the gentleman whom this person named and at the hour of the ap- pointment there appeared at MT. Led yards house, Mir Edward Lauter- bach, a member of the bar of New York city, as I understood
 MT. Ledyard and MT. Lauterbach had a long conversation about this matter Mir. Lauterbach taking it up apparently from the thread which had been laid down by the pseudo Palmer declared that he spoke for several inn portant gentlemen in the house of rep- resentatives who were able to do the things which the person who had been telephoning to Mir. Ledyard said could be done; and when doubt was express ed by MT. Ledyard as to the truth of such allegations. MT. Lauterbach, as recall 1t urged Mir. Ledyard to come to Washington or to meet elsewhere in person certain gentlemen high in the organization, even going so far as mentioning the name of the Speaker and the floor leader and think one or two other important members of the house.
 Let the latter Drop.
 After this had been told to me I told MT. Ledyard I did not see that I had any interest at all in the mat ter. It was an amazing proposition to me had never seen or heard of MT. Lauterbach except in the most general way. I never had any par ticuIar interest in any, of these mat ters which it was said could be af- fected or controlled and therefore ing further to do with the matter and 1t was dropped"
 Riordan Denies Talking to Lovett.
 Representative Daniel J. Riordan of New York took the stand and testified that he knew nothing of the charge made by Judge Robert Scott Lovett hat a man purporting to be the con- gressman had urged over the te1e- phone the retention of Mir Lauter- bach as counsel.
 T never saw Judge Lovett fin my 1ife;. never spoke to him fu my life" said Rfordan. q wouldn't know him if he came in this room tonight In this connection Mir. Lauterhach's narne was mentioned. I have known him but never n1gn1OnSd n1b name In any connection. l can't find out where this telephone was sent from, whether Washington or some place else, never used the long distance telephone but twice in my life.
 Criticises Lovett.
 T don't know whether Mir, Leveft's office is in New York. I don't kh6W where Mir, tIa1Hefbaeh's effses is, I think this cali ought te ba traced and l think if could be easily traced. It seems strange MT, t.svett has net made any effort te trace, T'fn always accessible in New York; meyer hide away. I'm always easy ts fHd..
 Rferdan said he thought that it was strange that L6yett allowed such a statement as the naystArieHs teienhefae caller made. Senator Senator Reed remarked that man was HindiseFeef' who got such q telephone cali drawing in the name of public man, gave out an interview Is the press and did not try to verify the personality Of his caller.