Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1913-05-14
Simmons and Penrose En-
gage in Oratorical Contest
Arguing for and Against
Public Hearings on the
Tariff.
SUGAR SCHEDULE
AMENDMENT SOUGHT
Senator LaFollette Offers
Amendment Which Pre-
walls Providing That
Manufacturers Shall An
swer Sixteen Questions.
ASSOCIATED PRESS DIsPArcHl

WASHINGTON, May 13.-Senator
Simmons, chairman of the finance
committee and Senator Penrose.
leading the republican fight TO refer
the Underwood bill with instructions
for public hearings, delivered ora
torical broadsides against each other
in a senate debate today on the Pen
rose amendment which will -be re-
sumed tomorrow.
Senator Penrose likened a secret
caucus of the house democrats on
the tariff bill TO methods of the
Spanish inquisition," and brought
laughter to both sides when he de-
clared that no one present at the
caucus would witness the murder of
an American industry.
Senator Simmons declared if the
democratic purpose to eliminate hear
ings be called reprehensible. il was
the first time the democratic party
had copied the methods of the re-
publicans and argued at length why
public hearings We're not necessary
avOwing they were not even de-
manded.
In the debate Senator Penrose re
ferred to Senator Simmons attitude
on the lumber schedule four years
ago when the Payne Aldrich bill was
swered that the Underwood bill pro
vided for everything advocated four
years ago if lumber were to be placed
on the free list.
That being So" he said, L will
vote with pleasure for free lumber"
Senator Bristow offered an amend
ment to the sugar schedule providing
for graduated reductions for two and
three year periods at the end of
which time sugar would be taxed one
dollar and twenty-seven and u half
cents per hundred pounds.
When the Kansas senator conclud-
ed his attack on the democratic bill.
Senator La Toilette proposed an
amendment to the Penrose amend
ment directing public hearings.
Senator Bacon then moved that the
senate go into executive session. The
motion prevailed forty eight to
thirty four, Senators LaFollette and
Works voting with the democrats.
This forced further consideration of
the tariff over until tomorrow.
LaFollettes amendment, which was
accepted by Senator Penrose pro-
vides that manufacturers who might
appear or file briefs before the
finance committee would be required
to answer under oath sixteen ques-
tions relating to the commodity they
manufacture; raw materials used:
amount of production and consump
ton of the industry in this country:
the number of concerns engaged in
manufacture, their Identity; the
market price of this and competing
countries; the cost of production in
this and competing countries; the
percentage of labor cost here and
abroad the transportation cost to
the present markets. here and
abroad; what part of the existing
tariff duty represents the difference
in the cost of production here and
abroad, what part of the tariff duty
represents profit to the American
manufacture
Senator Lippitt characterized the fl
nance sub committee and its private
hearings with manufacturers as "star
chamber sessions
Replying to this Senator Simmons
said the democratic party copied the
exact methods of the republican party
of four years ago. We asked the re
publicans why if they were sincere in
their demand for public hearing they
did not demand them Immediately after
the finance committee voted three
weeks ago against holding them.
Senator Penrose said they did give
notice then and would make such a
demand as soon as the motion might be
! in order
AT that time said Penrose "the
tariff bill was being, considered in Il
| secret caucus over in the house, a most
extraordinary method of treatments to
! such an important measure with no
one present in the galleries do not re-
| fer to it as .-star chamber" proceeding.
but rather as a vigorous imitation of
the methods of the Spanish inquisition.
Senator Simmons charged that what
| republicans sought through public
| hearings was the opportunity to ar
range a stump speech and by their
interests to give the gentlemen repre-
senting the interests that have grown
! rich under the republican protection
another opportunity TO declare that if
| the Payne AIdrich rates are reduced
per cent of the industries will be de-
| stroyed. and to give them chance to
make an appeal from Judgment of the
country expressed at the last election.