New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-10-09
Winston Churchill Says Any
Move by Orange Party VIII
Be Met Half Way.
BUT WILL CRUSH REVOLT
Will Not Submit to Bully S
Veto" Nor to Any Claim Put
Forward as a Wrecking
Man9uvre.
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London. Oct. e.-Winston Churchill,
First Lord of the Admiralty, delivered
a speech on Home Rule at Dundee last
night which is likely to provoke as
much controversy as Lord Loreburn's
famous letter in THE Times one
Unionist newspaper calls the speech
uncompromising, while another calls IL
conciliatory. The fact is, II was BOTH
and so Liberal papers are content 10
describe IL as great, for most OF the
time he was going, like Reginald Nc
Kenna at Pontypool and John r. Red-
mond at Cahirciveen. full speed ahead
He declared that the government
would stand firm against any attempt
to set up bully's veto more arbitrary
than the veto Of the crown, which mas
been 10 all intents and purposes aooi-
ished these three hundred years past
and would take all necessary measures
TO crush any rising in Ulster. linen
MIR. Churchill suddenly began to talk IN
quite another strain.
Before the Home Rule bill can be
fully operative" he said. and before
any legislation can be passed by an
Irish Parliament. there must be a gen.
eral election. II the general election
should result in a transference Of power
II would be open to our successors TO
repeal the measure which is now being
passed into law
Mr.. Churchill next suggested special
treatment for Northeast Ulster, in
passage which is obviously important.
II will be marked and carefully
weighed, and it will be taken as an eX-
preston of the real mind of the inner
Cabinet. Mr. Churchill said that If the
claim for the separate treatment of
Ulster were put forward with sincerity
and not as a wrecking maneuvre, such
a claim could not be ignored by any
government depending upon the pres
ent House of Commons.
This he promised: that every step
the Ulster Unionists made toward
them should be met and matched by a
similar approach on the governments
part.
There was not a trace of this con-
dliatory spirit in the Home secretary's
Pontypool speech on Monday. What
does it mean?
The Liberal newspapers insist that
there must be no tampering with the
unity of Ireland. The Unionist papers,
and particularly The Daily Mail"
concludes that Mr.. ChurchilPs speech
is an offer TO exclude Northeast Ulster
from the purview Of the Home Rule
bill on the condition that the Union
lists agree to work with the Liberals
for the future success Of the settle
ment.
II may be regarded as certain, how
ever. that the Irish Nationalists will
never accept the bill as a final settle
ment Of Irelands grievances II Ulster
or any part Of II is left out of the
scheme.
In conversation after the meeting
Winston Churchill expressed his strong
personal belief that a settlement OF
the Irish question would be attained
before long, but he could not explain
what he really meant by his reference
TO Ulster.
The only thing that would induce the
government to allow Sir Edward Car.
son to triumph would be an expression
Of reluctance on the part Of Kins
George to give the royal assent to z
bill that might mean armed rebellion
in the United Kingdom such as has no
occurred here since the Jacobite risins
Of 1145 in favor Of the Poung Pre-
tender