New-York tribune., 1913-11-23
Tells Buffalo Audience of
His Break with Tam
many Hall.
FAILS TO DISCLOSE
ADDITIONAL FACTS.
p,esents Details of Interviews
with Boss When He Threat
ened RepriSals.
,Ry Telegraph 70 The Tribune. J


ppralo. Nov. Civilian Sulzer opened
bic countrywide lecture tour before a
md sized crowd at the Broadway Audi
..-iun, tonight The .much-heralded eX-
,osrre Of the Treason Of Tammany'
f,fled 10 develop ANYTHING more than had
bssn heard from Sulzer on the stump
during his recent campaign I'm the 9th
Vow York Assembly District.
ue said his break with Charles r Muir
cby and Tammany Hall was the sole
,sason for his removal from the Gov
,-oorsbip. and that unless Tammany was
s.stroyed our free institutions were
doomed
Mr. Sulzer went into minute details Of
his fight with Murphy. From the time, he
s.vs he refused to allow Murphy 10
e,ance him and insisted on the appoint
r,srt Of Judge Mccall as a Public Service
commissioner over the man wanted for
tbe place by Tammany. the demands for
commitments and pledges on legislation
Iron, Murphy were constant and insistent
Affairs came 10 a crisis. Mr.. Sulzer said,
ovar Mr.. Murphy's insiStence that James
c.rnev be named as Commissioner OF
uphwavs. At the meeting at the Shore
ham Hotel at Washington, on March o.
attended by Sulzer, Murphy, Norman b.
w.ck William II. Fitzpatrick and
r,or,as F. Smith. at which federal
patronage was under discussion. the TAM
MANY chief again brought up the SUBJECT
., Gaffney's appointment, and then ana
.,sra served notice on the Governor that
:, must be "Gaffney or war
This threat was reiterated and empha-
,,,sd at a subsequent meeting in New
Work IN April. Mr.. Sulzer said. Appoint
,,.rts N the Supreme Court bench were
H. consideration at that time. Murphy
r.ntsd Michael J. Mulqueen and Judge
Gillespie appointed to vacancies, but SUI
,sr said he refused to name judges VINO
sd NOT meet with the full approval Of the
Bar Association.
oIt was in this conversation, salo MT
sulzer that Mr.. Murphy said TO me-
Unless YOU do what l want you TO do
will wreck your administration as Gov
srnor block all your legislation and de-
t.o, al vour Appointments. Remember
7 control the Legislature, and the Leg
is,ature can control the Governor.
.He also threatened me with pubic
ssgrace unless agreed to his programme
a, legislative matters and appointments
D.. was at this conference, too, that ne
liked about things he had on me. ana
aid that / better listen 10 him and not
% his enemies upstate-that II dld
that he told me to do l would have things
.ssy and no trouble. and that if ! dldn
what he wanted me 10 do would nave
a the trouble / wanted
He was very insulting, / asked MN
What he could do to destroy me. He SAID
Never mind, you will find out and did.
was about this time. Mr.. Sulzer said,
when Murphy also demanded that he call
Of George W. Blake, the commissioner
who was investigating state prisons, and
John A. Hennessy. conducting investlga-
tons in other departments.
This became the final Issue" said
Sulzer. when I discovered that few
politicians and contractors were rob-
bing the State Of millions, l determined
10 prosecute the grafters and 70 DEFY
Mr. Murphy
The signal for my destruction was
soon given. II was about the middle
Of May when Mr.. Murphy summoned
his lieutenants. The facts Of the meet
Ing came 20 me from Judge Mccall. The
conference lasted several hours and IL
was finally decreed that 1 should be
removed from Office"