Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1913-08-26
SAYS TERMINAL
WON'T RELIEVE
Commissioner CiIIen, Opposing
Subway, Says 1t Leaves Troll
ley Problem Unsolved.

After conference lasting more
than three hours yesterday afternoon
| the members of the Board of Works
and officials of the Public Service
We're apparently a little nearer the
solution of the proposed subway and
terminal proposition than before.
There were several differences of
opinion between the commissioners
and the representatives of the COM
pany, chief among which was dis
pute in regard to the cost of recon-
struction of the subway in case the
city should decide to build. This
matter, after 1t had been argued pro
and con for some time, was finally
referred to City Counsel James r.
Nugent for a written opinion.
The question of the approaches TO
the proposed terminal caused a ver-
bal tilt between Commissioner Ar
thur r. Denman and L. Howard Gill
mour of counsel for the company
Mr.. Denman contended that it was
for private use and that the company
should be satisfied to bear its share
of the burden. Mr.. Gilmour took ex-
ception to this and declared that 1t
was primarily for public use. The
company was dedicating valuable
property for public use, Mr.. Gilmour
said.
"Main Thing Is the Golfer"
THAT may be so indirectly" re-
sponded Mr.. Denman, but primarily
1t is to put something in your private
Golfers. l contend that 1t Is private
use"
IF that were so, If 1t were for
private use, then this body or the
I - L. frts no
that right" said Mr. Gilmour. This
matter was also referred to Mr.. Nu-
gent along with the other proposition
for legal opinion.
Commissioner Charles p. Gillen is
sued a statement in which he placed
himself on record as being opposed
to the terminal proposition because
as he said it did not seem to him
that 1t would solve the trolley prob
lens of Newark.
| In answer to his colleagues, Com
missioner Charles r #. Kraemer de-
clared that the matters referred to
| by Mr.. Gillen were not new. The en-
| tire proposition had been threshed
out and gone over so many times that
1t was now ancient history, the COM
missioner averred.
Were Going Backward"
at seems to me that we are going
backward instead of forward in this
matter" said DR.. Kraemer. For my
part. I do not understand Mr.. Gillen's
attitude in the matter. This PROPOSE
ton has been before the public
through the press and in other ways
for some time. and / have not heard
any serious objections to the scheme.
1t is the only feasible way. to my
mind. of solving the congestion prob
lem. and to sever the subway from the
terminal would be impracticable."
In reply to DR. Kraemer Mr.. Gillen
asked how the members felt on the
proposition and wished them to put
themselves on record as being in favor
or opposed before continuing. Com
missioner Denman called his atten-
ton to the fact that the meeting was
not one of the board, but merely
conference. and that such action could
only be taken at a regular meeting of
the board. President Ryan said that,
to. his mind. It was the only solution
of the problem. Mr. Denman declared
that the matter was so involved that
the more he thought it over the
harder he found it to put himself in
the attitude of the Public Service in
the matter.