The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1913-02-26
ANHUT SAYS He GOT $4,000
FROM THAW, BUT AS FEE.


him and communicated later with Mr.
Hoffman. I had no further conmunlca,
ton With Dr. Russell. In my talks with
DR. Russell he told me there Wa an.
other wealthy insane patient at Mat.
teawan."
How was rfAe $4,000 made up," ssked
counsel.
Five thousand was IN currency" re-
piled Anhut and the balance in Con-
sohdated Gas stock. In January ] re-
turned $4,000 In stock and took back two
old reccipts that had given HOFFMAN.
leaving n balance OF Sio.7 100 to DO 70.
turned less expenses. on July I. 1913, %
per our agreement, II I didn't succeed
In obtaining Thaw's release. I gave a
new receipt 10 HOFFMAN for 90, ZOO"
The witness Wa emphatic in dcclar-
ing false tho story told by DIR. Russell
tint Anhut had offered him s7o.ooo II he
would certify that Thaw was sane.
Il know said the witness. shat Rus.
sell did not have the authority to re.
lease 1haw. ! wac not In a position
70 pay hin $4,000 because the money
held was SVEN me On the contingent
that l would obtain Thaw's release. I
couldn't and wouldn't give Russell a
cant. knew that no Judge would re.
lease Thaw on Russclrs testimony. I
told him NJ my being pleased over my
retention by Thaw, but never men.
toned $1,000"
Under oross-exAanination b. =. =.
Norton, the committees counsel, AAhat
declared that when Dr. 8usesii asked
him II he wouldn't be satasaeA WITH
1900 for himsslf, Dr. 1usssil hsA
told him tAat ne (Anhut) eouiA SET
EN- to extend the time and could ret
'sm 20 inorsass he amount to oSo,o0o."
He asserted that DR.. Russell had never
said he would sduelch the case" that
Dr. Russell had never told him Il was
impossible TO release Thaw without a
written order from tho Governor; that
DR.. Russell had intimated that his ac-
ceptinS money for releasing Thaw might
make him lose his position M superin-
tendcnt and that 'he would be fool I.
lose II for a small sum-" That Dr. Rus
sol had often told him that. III Thaw
would only keep quiet for time and
keep out OF tho public eye. ne (Russeill
would bring about his rciease."
RoeDER DENIES STATEMENT OF
CLARK.
Gus c. Focder Of Brooklyn, employed
for twenty-seven years on . New York
newspspcr. VINO nrst made the charge
against Clark. tho committees secretary,
testified how he accidentally heard an
effort was being made TO obtain tho re.
lease Of Thnw through Gov. 0lizer. He
SAID he tried to get . vcrahcation from
Col. Joseph r. Scott, Superintendent OF
State Prisons. 'bast was told any infocma-
ton available must be obtained a. Mat.
tcawan.
Roeder told Of GOING to Matteawan on
tho same train with Clark and Of hav-
ing met Alfred Henry Lewis and II. A.
Hoffman there. ...
The witness read a letter from Thaw
assing him to come 70 So him. and
said Thaw denied he had applied TO
tho Governor for aid.
In conversations with Dr. Russell,
Roeder said the doctor told him that
Clark had 'been Fostering the life oft
VI Ats ANuUvCa tVtu $3.50 ho
said. that they had told him Il was
up to him TO set Thaw free. and n he
did they would SEQ TO II that Gov. sulsei
would call OF his night with Col. Scott"
Roeder said he told Clark what DR..
Russell said. md later tho doctor 70
psated the accusation In the presence
Of Clark.
Clark went TO New York with Roedsr.
and. according to the latter. requested
that his name be eliminated from
Roeder's story. but me request was de-
MED by the managing editor of his
Newspaper.
Roeder denied Clar1Ss Assertion that
he was the publicity agent for the ''pr1s.
on ring" and declared that he had met
DR.. Russell but three ttmes. Col Scott
ak times. and that ne ala not know DR..
James v. May. Of the State Hospital
Commission. At all.
A. the conclusion Of Rosders tssti.
mony the hearing was adjourned to
Matteawan. where Thaw Will DO sx.
amined late This afternoon.