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The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

At any rate the Giants seem the bet
ter equipped in player-writers who can
present to the public wide variety of
plausible reasons for the outcome of
the games
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Carranza declares there can be no
legal election in Mexico until it is at
peace. But can Mexico ever have
peace until there is a legal election?
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Paradoxical though it may seem.
the low churchmen at the triennial
convention of the EpiscOpalians are
ton
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

- Louisiana expert figures that only
about 425,000 people in this country re-
ceive incomes greater than $4,000 a year.
But probably he did not include the
members of the New York police.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

In the rumpus at Albany, it may bt
noticed, Acting Governor Glynn ISM
hurting any defis at Tammany.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Secretary Bryan approves of the tar
in law. Lectures, by the way, are not
on the free list.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Again, 1t wouldn't be so bad for Will
liam Sulzer if he hadn't specialized on
the wrong side of the market.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Anyway. Mr. Bryan is a whole lot
better chautauqua lecturer than any
of which the European cabinets can
hOa
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

HAS Dobbs much weight in this COM
munity?'' "Onlv so much weight as the
scales show ''-Birmingham Age-Herald.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Fine imported tulips, hyacinths, narcis-
sis. very cheap a t Edward YewdalIs 11os
Western ave. Phone 1622.-Adv
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

The girl employees in the court house
petitioned for a rest room. which was
granted this mornino by the county COM
missioners. The Hall Lithographing com
pany has volunteered to donate a chair
The jury chamber in Judge Dana's court
will be used for the room.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

A German prince is trying to obtain
a loan of s., 100000. Undoubtedly he is
already married.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Judge said the forewoman Of the jury
of ladies. 1--WE want to speak to you about
that sealed verdict we just rendered
We'll ladies?'' 'tCan we unseal it and
add postscript?''-Wash Herald
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Why doesn't England try to get it.
fighting suffra gists into the game il
Ulster?
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

The case against Dick Hoffman. ac-
cused of selling liuuor. was dismissed this
morning in the district court. Witness
against him failed to appear
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

ment in the several counties interested by
issuing an executive proclamation anu
call for laborerS.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Golden Egg machine-dried Macaroni.
Healthier than meat Better to eat"
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

J. S. Work, 1900 Van Buren, street. has
lost a bay horse ct. H" brand on one
hip. Mr.. Work values the animal at 800
Any information should be telephoned to
the sheriff's office. Tie horse disappeared
at o'clock last night.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

1t is reported that eX-King Manuel
wife is not having a perfectly Lowell.
time with him, but as that was tn
general forecast. no great surprise i
being manifested.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Vice President MarshalFs advice to
girls to get married before they are
30, is excellent, but we should
go still further with the wise sugges-
ton that they also make it convenient
to be born at an early age.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Judge Reese is thinking of taking
his vacation at Sweet Springs, Mo.
Paw-paws do not grow around Dodge
City, and he couldn't find them on
the Topeka markets. But he knows
there are plenty of them at Sweet
Springs, Mo.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Which may be considered by many
souri,.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

1t takes all kinds of people to make
population. That's about the only
excuse for the misguided human who
holds a crouch because his Judgment
on the Worlds Series was faulty.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Hon Huerta's system of dealing
with congress may seem drastic to
some, but to a number of old COM
rades who have been trying for IS
years to get their pension bills past
our own national legislative body. it
may appear in the light of about the
proper thing.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

At this time of year the general
practice of a political writer is light
but he can keep busy Scratching en-
tries in the United STATES senator race
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Sunday at his home at GLE East T,,a1Ft,.
street. The funeral will be held AT ,
o clock Tuesday at ST John A. M F.
cnurch. lnterment will be in the To-
peka cemetery. ~
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Benjamin NJ. Davies died Saturday
night at his home at 800 West Sixth
avenue. The funeral will be held at q
O'Clock Tuesday at the residence In
terment will be private.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

There are some news items that
should bbe suppressed for the good OF
the country. For instance, the report
that the price of kraut is rising in this
country. may affect the German inn
migration, which is the most desirable
class of permanent visitors that comes
to our alleged free country.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

me funeral of Mrs. Jennie johnson.
colored. who died at her homo 81 o1i
North Fillmore street, will be held a
l O'Clock Tuesday in Asbury chapel.
interment will be in Rochester Gene
terry.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

The new tariff bill is now a law
and the duty on unset pearls is 20 pc
cent higher. This will cause grea
hardship among those who neglected
to lay in their winters supply of unse
pearls before the new tariff went into
effect.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Add Huerta: And when Hon.
Huerta's goat goes Gathering down the
long road of time to the accompani-
ment of its own tinware, it will be
possible to find simps who consider
him in the light of a hero. 1t is easy
TO find a simp for ever situation.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

The body of Mrs. ]. B. Billiard will
De shipped to st. Louis this afternoon
| for burial.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-10-13

Mrs Emma D. Conner, wife of f
W. Conner, died Saturday morning al
one OIL the local hospitals. The funera
was held this afternoon at the ro.i.
dence at 800 West Euclid avenue.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
Bryan Sees Japanese

SACRAMENTO. May 2-The Jap
anese problem in California as it ac-
luallv exists on the farms and
ranches Of the Sacramento valley was
viewed at close rance b, Secretary Y
Eryan yesterday in the course of
4 two hours automobile run through
Tie thickly populated Florin district,
.cn miles south Of The capital.
Governor Johnson and ASscmhlvmal.
llrgh Bradford. who accompanied the
secretary Of state. We're armed with
facts and figures to explain the -rtnes
HAT mci The eyes # the visitor. ana
MIR. Bryan seemed deeply Interested.
lis only comment. however, at the
enc Of the trip was that he had seen
aot only Japanese colony, but i
very pretty California valley"
= the Flo"in IL rict, embracing
annut 25 sIuarn mics Of rich sol,
there is population of 1900 Japanese
f. nr r. and 100 Americans Twelve
years ago there was only a score of
Japanese in the community: now they
practically control The grape and ber-
ry industries Of this section.
They own the factory where the
FtiIN Ib'NtS DIT llldtt. Nllt With lllP
party visited the shop Mr.. Bryan saw
Sc Japanese girls at work. He was
told by Governor Johnson that prior
to six years ago American girls We're
employed there. at higher wages and
with shorter hours of labor.
An Interesting stop was made at
the district school Of Florin. where
the party visited The first grade. II
was a typical schoolroom. with pic
lures Of Washington and Lincoln on
the walls. but in the seats below
there were % Japanese children and
20 American boys and girls. The
American youngsters We're 6 and
years old; the japanese included sew
eral who We're i6, and so large that
new desks has been supplied for them.
When the party returned to the cap
iial the senate was in the act of taking
up for final consideration the bill that
IS designed to restore FlOrin and sim
liar communities once more to Cau-
c&sian ownership.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
WAS GREAT MASONIC DAY
WHEN TEMPLE WAS DEDICATED

Yesterday was a great day for the
Masonic order, the dedication of the
new temple taking place in the after
noon and an impressive meeting Of The
order being held in the evening.
Tne dedicatcry exercises were con-
Quoted according to the ritual Of the
rrdGr by Grand Master William u. FL
n'"r and Master j. Stewart Ross. as
sisted by John B. Osborn. inspector of
NC san Diego district for the Masonic
order, ana +. C.. Bangs. past master Of
san Diego lodge.
II the close Of the regular service
jhr grand master delivered a lay se,-
mIn N which ne compared the building
"i The temple to The building Of char3r-
trr' declaring that the latter is sti;t
hoIc important and more enduring. fnr
y l'0'S long after life has departed.
The services We're public and were
W2Irned with great interest hv those
aH-'de Of The order as well as the
members.
IN The evening there was meeting ,f
'Ie order which was attended by mem.
hrr~ q al the valley lodges, the third
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
PUTTING FINISHING TOUCHES
ON THE ANTEAL|EN BILL

loastlold could he continued at the
expiration of three years tenure.
Bcynton explained that the same land
could not subsequently be leased to
lhC same alien. hut admitted that the
property could remain with the same
firm for many years by successive rent
als.
Finn and shanahan opposed the
amendment. declaring it would cause
thr hjIl W losc its efficacy.
on first ron call the amendment
failod TO receive sufficient votes. The
-ur-ranl al arms was then ordered to
tIiu= i'll the missing members.
The senator's We're reticcnt when
they lcft Inc chamber for lie noon re
cy~-. Many apparently believed Bry-
u'~ work mas been effective. and that
,>cn if HE bill now passes the GOV,
.eHmrut will he notified thai lis sting
hH- been removed. Bryan refused to
tt~cu~~ TIE meeting
/ SACR \AjENTO. May 2.-Brfore the
senate mri four important phases Of
Tom anli-aljtn land legislation became
hnoNn.
f. Bryan believing his fGht in the
-enaic Ia>l. held caucuSos with twenty
iN" Democrats IN thc assembly. c"n"-
-ajw- caution. It is believed he brought
.HJrh Influence "a hear.
:. AU emergency clause t" the Webb
Mill va, discussed. which would
r.hH 'in Wnhh hlI immediately opera
INn. preventing wholesale land grab
hiu@ by Japanese during the ninety days
interval before lhe bill would ordinari-
~ become q law
B. IN entirely new hin. identical
with lha Webb bin. except That it con
.3'n- clause allowing Japanese to
lease Land for a period Of three years,
was endorsed NV Johnson ana is before
the assembly for action.
-Lc-i~IGluls hrucNc the federal
government through Bryan and as
~rmhIy Democrats viii continue efforts
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
BIG LAND SALE MARKS
GROWTH OF THE VALLEY

Another big land deal points to the
steady development Of the valley ana
illustrates the successes being achieved
by the pioneers who have had hand
i'll making the valley and have hung Oh
for series of years.
This is The sale Of The Pier ranch
Of 400 acres, near IIcbcr. to John Cliff
Of Los Angeles for @6O.00O, or at Tie
rate Of $3.50 an acre.
There is no doubt Of the value Of the
land. or that il will continue to increase
III value rapidly, hul the sale ncyerthr-
less represents a big profit to The sell
erS.
The sale was put through by Pier &
Irendcrgast of.El Centro and Shcnk &
Becker Of CalcXicO.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
AMERICANS ARE REPORTED
MURDERED IN MEXICO
tBy UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS

tBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS1
GALVESTON, May Blood curd--
ling stories Of brutal murder Of Ameri-
cans in Mexico are told by fourteen
American refugees who have arrived
mere from various Mexican points on
the steamer BerYl. There are nine wo-
men in the party. several of whom left
husbands bodies in Mexico. The refu-
%ecS declared the anti-Amercan senti-
ment is rapidly spreading throughout
the republic. Many Americans. they
claim, in the interior are unable to
find means to escape to the border on
account of The railroads being destroy
ed. Rebel leaders are forbidding Of
ficerS Of steamships to carry passen-
gers.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
HAIRLESS AND WHISPERED
MEN HEA\E BR|9KBATs
[BY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS

WASHINGTON. May IA red hot
verbal assault was directed 'oa Mann Of
Illinois and Fordncy of Michigan dur
inc the tariff debate by Thomas Of
Kentucky. who characterized Ferdney
~ ''Ihe hairless wonder from Michi-
gan" and referring to Mann, Thomas
sad. 81 just want to tell that beWhs-
Eered gent from Illinois that these are
dog days and we are shearing sheep.
J would advise him to go out and get
shaved. The gentleman from Illinois
has taken up volumes OF the congress
sonal record with his mixed metaphors
and yapd nothings. and | win bet he
has cost the government ten millions
since he has been rafting round
here"
Mann. white with rage, wasfon his
feet instantly. "The gentleman from
Kentucky addresses himself to3fhe hair
% my face" he shouted. '.Ife says
am bewhiskered. | am bewfliskered
Iut | am not bcWhiskeyed.' Tl1e.house.
which was laughing, was sileAeed by
Mam's retort. Thomas eldeaXspd lie
speak again, but the char raped far
order
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
CITRUS TARIFF PASSES

tBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS
WASHINGTON, May 2.-AII amend
nents offered by California congress-
men to offset the proposed sweeping
reduction in citrus fruit tariff were
overwhelmingly defeated when the
house adopted the citrus paragraph
Of the WiIson-Underwood traiff bill.
During the debate knowland of CAL
ifornia offered an amendment to boost
the rate on figs and raisins. Hayes Of
fered an amendment to retain the pres
ent duty on olives. Bell offered an
amendment changing the duty on lem
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
tBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS

tBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS1
SACRAMENTO. May 2.-OminuuS
undertone pervaded Tie capitol WHOM
The legislators assembled 70 consider
he mli-alien bill. It was generally ba-
iieved important developments m
pended. Bryan arrived early and re-
manned in private office until the
senate convened. His breakfast being
served there.
The senate gallery was i3mmed earIv
and among the spectators Were the
Japanese who have daily attended me-
sessions. Prior to calling the senate to
order, Bryan. Johnson, Webb amt
Boynton conferred a long time. nh"
utmost secrecy surrounded tie dclih-
eratiOns. The clerk read 10 the senate
score of telegrams, all but two urg-
ing the hills adoption. One from th"
Japanese Association Of America. urged
careful consideration Of the measure
that might effect the friendly relations
BY a vote Of p to i3 The senate
adopted the amendment Of Birdsall tn
The anti-slicn land bill. providing That
+, aliens Ineligible to citizenship mos
lease California lands for period of
tnItt Years. ! lie dllltHbiHtIi WAS III H3-
duccd by Boynton in the senate which
then adjourned until :I3 this after
noon. when consideration Of the hill.
with amendments j. expected
Caminetti. Campbell and WRIGHT aro
expected to propose further amend
mentS then.
The Boynton amendment .ou itS facn
was the result Of a protest uf Sal
Joaquin valley land owners. whe
claimed a million acres Of their laDG
Is under lease to Japanese anI tlut
a bill without ne lra,chuId pIivilr-,
would cause depreciation Of values.
But just before the senate convened.
Bryan, Boynton and Johnson conferred.
II is believed possible that Bryan
played his trump card forcing lie
amendment.
During the debate If the amandmcut
Shanahan raised the point whether thr
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
c. A. sHAFER INSTALLS
NEW INDUSTRIAL LINE

G. A. Shafcr is installing an industry
hat has never before had a place in
the valley. That is the manufacture Of
monumental and structural stone work.
Wnen Mr.. Shafer entered the valley as
an undertaken several years since he
looked forward to eventually engaging
also in this line, but has not done so
until the present. He is now bringing
in full line and will be prepared to do
any work in the lines mentioned. Here
tofore all finished stones have been i'm
ported to the valley from the coast.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
WHITE SLAVERY Probe
IS STILL IN PROGRESS
EBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS

[BY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONsj
Los ANGELES, May 2.-Efforts Of
the police and district attorneys office
10 secure letters alleged to he in pos
session of Detective William Appel
failed today when Appel testified be-
fore the white slavery grand jury. He
declared he had no such documents. He
was before the jury seventeen minutes.
Mrs. Mabel Mason, proprietor Of the
Blue Moon Cafe and Sandy Ferguson
. bartender, followed Appel. William
lIuntoOn then testified William Wood.
recently freed from the charge Of con-
tributing to the delinquency Of Marie
Brown Levy, was Snbpoen9ed.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02

to prevent or delay the passage of the
Webb bill in its present form.
Bryan'S caucus with the Democrats
came late yesterday and was executive.
The new bill was drawn late yesterday
by Attorney General Webb.
TOXIC. May 2.-ThOuSandS Of
young men attended a mass meeting
today, voicing threats Of war if the
California anti alien land bill passed
and bitterly denounced the discrimina-
tiOn
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
BANDIT FATALLY INJURIES
PASSENGER II! KANSAS
[BY UNITED PRESS AssocIAT1oNsI

KANSAS CITY, May "A lone ban
dit lined up and robbed passengers on
a Kansas City Southern train of $500
today and escaped after fatally wound
ing Jesse Short. q wealthy mincowner.
in revolver duel. The bandit was
wounded.
The train proceeded 10 a point three
miles from Joplin. After robbin@ the
passengers in the chair car, the bandit
compelled Tie porter to Head him
through the train. Coming to Shorts
berth he compelled Short to surren
der $1,000 in coin. q watch ami two
diamonds. As the rGbbcr turned. Short
drew a revolver and opened fire. Tn"
robber Whirled ani cmpIief his @,m
into Shorts berth. Short was shot
through the head, shoulder ana knee.
The robber jumped from The train.
which was stopped. II is believed ne
escaped by row boat across lie Blu"
river, there being a trail Of DIuod lead
ing to the bank
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02

, dr=rce being conferred on c. n. Perry.
The grand master presided, the local
team performing the floor work in a
manner winch brought high praise. The
grand master stated That he had never
seen the work more perfectly executed
nan by This team, especially that work
done by Mont j. Reid.
Hespunses We're made by Sanford Ty-
irr fOr CaleXico, Howard Jones for Holt
vile, w. r. Stevenson for Imperial.
PCT. Randall for BraWley, ana Messrs.
rllmcr, Osborn ana Bangs, while Master
Ross extended the thanks Of the local
iod2e for the attendance and assistance
-Cf liIe guests.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
Alaska Bill Vetoed


JUNEAU, Alaska, May 2.-Immedi-
atcly prior to today's adjournment Of
the territorial legislature Governor
Clark vetoed the anti-alien fish bill,
directed against Japanese fishermen,
which had passed both houses unani-
mously. Legislative leaders conferred
and announced they would make no at
TEMPT to pass it over the veto. Clark
declined to state whether he vetoed
The bill on instructions from Washing
ION
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
DESPERATE eUFFRlGETTES
THREATEN ENGLhnD'G PEhCE

IBY UNITED PRESS ASsOCIATIONsl
LONDON, MAY 2.-Scolland yard
detectives today arrested Edward Clay
ton, charged with conspiracy in con
nection with a suffrage'te plot t.
burn all lumber yards in London. Clay
Ton refused to confess.
A bottle Of nitro giyCarine found in
Picadilly circus tube station caused .
panic among the passengers. SuIIta-
gettes are suspected.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
Doctor in Trouble
tBY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS

tBY UNITED PRESS AssOCIATIONsl
Los ANGELES, May DIR. L. O..
WilcoXon Of South Pasadena pleaded
not gully TO a grand Iarccncv charge
Of obtaining $4,000 worth Of mining
stock from \. H. Rose 0f Seattle III
exchange for property which he failed
l. deliver He was remanded to Jail in
default # $500 bail after his trial
WAS set for May 25.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
Killed His Partner
Try UNITED PRESS ASsOcIATIO

PORTERNILLE, May 2.-Hugh Dix
on. contractor. shot and killed his
partner :. J. White, today following
2 quarrel over business. Dixon was ar.
rested and claims that he shot in self
defense.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
Students Nav Strike

fEY UNITED PRESS ASSOCIATIONS
PASADENA. May 2.-Students Of
Nazarene University here are up in
arms over the faculty edict that next
year The goods must wear a uniform OF
blue serge skirt and white waist The
men students are sympathizing with
the girls ana strike is threatened.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
PARTIES Wishing Storage Space

We have leased the large sheet iron
warehouse formerly occupied by Hamil-
ton Supply Co. and are prepared TO han
die any and all kinds of storage bust
ness. See Pioneer Transfer Co. at office
on 5th just n. Of Main. Phone Main /.
ADV. If
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02

ons to 1R cents and on oranges, lines,
grapefruit and shaddocks to cent.
All were defeated. Stephens proposals
for cent on lemons and "a cent on
other citrus fruits were also rejected.
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02
AMERICA RECOGNIZES NEW
CHINESE REPUBLIC TODAY

[BY UNITED PRESS AssOCIATIONSl
WASHINGTON. May 2.-FOrmal rec
cgnition Of the Chinese republic by the
American government was presented
today upon the organization Of the new
Chinese assembly, in accordance with
instructions issued by Bryan before go
Imperial Valley press., 1913-05-02

ing to California, according to state
department cablegrams. The depart
ment also received notification from
President Yuan that the recognition
message was read to the assembly and
accepted with expressed appreciation
by the Chinese republic.
The Fargo forum and daily republican. [volume] (Fargo, N.D.) 1894-1957, 1913-12-01
Taking Profit Out of War.

Golfers: Cong. William Kent Of
California has introduced a resolution
giving to the government a monopoly
of the manufacture of explosives. AS
to this particular commodity. Con-
gresham Kent doesn't care much
whether the government can do it
more or less efficiently, more or less
extensively. He puts it entirely on
this argument:
"It is a matter of common knoWl-
edge y 1t that those interested in
the manufacture Of war materials
have been potent factors in the pro-
motion of wal -scares and Of war. In
the ~villainous business of war the
questions of dividends to individuals
or corporations should never be. per-
mitted to enter"
Think very hard about this. Is
there any answer to it? Incidentally.