New-York tribune., 1913-06-27

calls. and he traced them TO place
which satisfied him as to who the party
was.
IF the committee wants TO go into
that further, II seems 20 me Mr. Led
ward should be called. and l will leave
it for him to say what he found out as
to who this party was.
This person. who declared that he
was Representative Palmer, when Mr..
Ledyard was unable TO secure a per-
sonal interview with him, declared that
he would name a person in whom Mr..
Ledyard would have confidence and 10
whom he could talk freely and who
would be able TO produce evidence that
he and this alleged Representative
Palmer would be able to do what they
said
Says Lauterbach Appeared.
Those statements finally led to Mr.
Ledyard's making an appointment 70
meet the gentleman whom this person
named, and the hour of the appoint
ment there appeared at Mr.. Ledyara's
house Mr.. Edward Lauterbach, a
member Of the bar of New York City,
as ] understand.
Mr.. Ledyard and Mr.. Lauterbach
had a long conversation about this
matter, Mr.. Lauterbach taking it up
apparently from the thread which had
Io IL Do, -
over the telephone. Mr.. Lauterbach
declared that he spoke for several i'm
portant gentlemen in the House Of
Representatives who were able 10 do
the things which the person who had
been telephoning to Mr.. Ledyard said
could be done: and when doubt was
expressed by Mr.. Ledyard as TO the
truth of such allegations, Mr.. Lauter-
bach. as I recall il. urged Mr.. Ledyard
TO come TO Washington, or to meet
elsewhere in person certain gentlemen
high in the House organization. even
going so far as TO mention the name Of
the Speaker and the floor leader, and
! think one or two other important
members of the House"
1t was a dramatic incident in the
session when Mr.. Palmer told the COM
mittee that Mr.. Ledyard had informed
him that the person who filled the ap-
pointment was Mr.. Lauterbach, and
that the latter had mentioned such
men as Speaker Clark and the floor
g,a 60
terbach retained his composure when
his name was mentioned, only drum
ming his fingers on the table at which
he sat.
Letters Put in Evidence.
A letter that Mr.. Ledyard had writ
ten to Mr.. Palmer setting forth in
some detail the circumstances, and the
latter's reply, were laid before the
committee at the request of Senator
4 Nelson.
Il regarded the whole matter as an
indefinite and very crude or half baked
attempt TO do something improper,
said Mr.. Palmer in conclusion.
Mr.. Lauterbach, in opening his testi-
mony, said that in view Of the "asper-
sions" cast upon his name he wished
to give an account Of his career in New
York. He detailed all his connections
with various organizations in New
York. told Of his political activities and
asserted that he had appeared in a
professional capacity for the houses
Of Morgan. Hartman. H. H. Rogers
Otto Kahn and, other flnanciers since
1896"
An emphatic denial was made by Mr.
Lsuterbach that he had ever repre-
sented himself over the telephone as
Mr.. Riordan, and he declared that he
had never authorized any one else Ia
90 so. He said that he had never made
any representations about influence at
Washington. and added that he had
none. so far as he knew
Mr.. Lauterbach admitted that he
wished, for sentimental reasons" to
appear in the Union Pacific cases be-
cause OF his knowledge of the trans
continental systems and their organiza-
ton, but he denied that he had tried to
force his services in any illegitimate
manner on Judge Lovett. although he
had talked with Mr. Kahn about his
desire to be associated in the ltiga-
ton.
Mr. Lauterbach gave the impression
that the charges made against him
were the result Of Wall Street con-
spiracy directed against him because
Of his friendship for David Lamar.
The lawyer said that he had dis
cussedsthe proposed dissolution plan
with Mr. Ledyard and others. offering
his services in the litigation. but that
he had expected as compensation only
20 be reinstated in the good graces in
the house OF Morgan, from which he
had been excluded, apparently because
Of his association with Lamar.
Questions BY Senator Reed brought
out that Lamar also was apparently in
terested in the outcome Of the dissolu-
tion plan. At the coDclusion Of the