The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1913-02-11

torney for the AntiSaloon league, and
Mrs. Kirkpatrick, representing the w.
q. L. u. lined up on the opposite side
Mr.. Marsh urged the committee 10
pass fayorably on the ordinance and
place the matter before the council
Aid. Dingeman tried 20 make Mr..
Marsh admit that he would support
a method OF reasonable regulation In
preference 10 the ordinance. Mr..
Marsh said he wasn't sure that the
ordinance would be killed.
Barnett Offers Suggestion.
Here Aid. Eddie" Barnett. perched
on the platform used by the city clerk
when transactlng business before the
council, popped" method whereby
he said the council could get around
the law I'm making a reasonable reduc'
ton In saloon licenses without pass
ing the ordinance.
Couldn't this council grant so
many licenses and keep out undeslr-
ables and lower the number of sa'
looms by simply refusing to grant IL
censes?" said Barnett, putting his
proposition In the form OF a question
to Dingeman. THE law gives the
council the right to use its own dis
erection In the selection OF applicants.
With that power the council could
simply keep turning down applica-
tions as fast as they came In. There
Is nothing TO prevent the council
from taking such action"
Turning TO Mr.. Marsh. Barnett ad,
dressed a few remarks to him.
Don't you think the council can
use It's power of discretion TO help
Itself out OF the present situation?'
asked Barnett.
Mr.. Marsh finally admitted that in
his opinion the council could exercise
that power, but he added: Il think
the Lodge ordinance is a splendid
measure. II the attitude OF this COM
mittee and the common council Is to
cut down the number OF saloons TO a
legal basis. then the ordinance ought
to be passed I'd refuse all licenses
II had my way about It,"
Dingeman suggested IN connection
with Barnett's plan that the commit
tee might take up licenses for con
sideration" and keep on consider
ing" them for an indefinite length OF
time. He also said that the council
could refuse TO approve the bonds
filed by liquor applicants. The coun-
ell would not be compelled to state
its reasons for rejecting the bonds.
Dinqeman Has Plan.
"Or," continued Dingeman, some
public-spirited citizens might take out
licenses and turn them back, thus
constituting a voluntary surrender
and reducing the number OF licenses
in this way"
Aid. O'Brien suggested that the en-
tire city be placed under the Watson
ordinance. He explained that by
placing the entire city in the restrict
ed district, new saloons could not be
opened and the character OF the bust
ness would be improved.
William Warner sounded the key
note OF the stand taken by the saloon
keepers and brewers when he de
clared that II was the duty OF the
liquor committee to use its discretion
in granting licenses.
Pliny Marsh again took the floor
and suggested that the brewery-owned
SALOONS ought to be cut out, and that
saloons in the vicinity Of churches
and factories ought TO be eliminated
as nuisances. Crandall attempted an
attack on Marsh by declaring in the
presence 81 the committee, that
Marsh had previously told him his
fight for prohibition was purely a per
sonal one actuated by q desire Tor
revenge on a certain party
Il certainly did not say that" said
Marsh in an angry voice.
Arthur +. Gordon in answer to
Marsh, declared that brewery-owned
saloons do not exist In Detroit He
also asked that the brewers be given
a chance to be heard on the matter
when the proper time comes.
Don't fear about that; everybody
Will be given fair hearing before
this committee, and we will take up
both sides OF every question" Dinge-
man assured him.
Aid. Schultz and Aid. Dingeman,
both representing the Seventeenth
ward. enlivened the committee pro-
ceedings with a personal spatI Schutz
accused Dingeman Of acting as attor-
ney for saloonkeeper. Dingeman
denied this and made few sarcastic
remarks about brave" Aid. Schultz.
Later, when the Conklin ordinance,
placing the remainder of the Seven
tee.th ward, north OF Mach and east
OF Crane-ave. in the restricted dis
trict, came up, Schultz refused to in
terest himself In the matter.
"All right then, I'll vote in favor
of IT," said Dingeman, and the ordi-
nance will be reported out favorably.
The application nf George Brett
meyer to transfer his place OF bust.
ness from No. 1893 10 No. 1890 Mack
ave-. was denied by the committee,
because the King brewing Co. tried
to dictate to the committee.
Aid Heating outlined the policy of
the present liquor committee when
he stated. This committee will not
pay any attention TO any brewery In
the matter of licenses"
The King Brewing Co. was ac-
cused OF trying to keep out competi-
ton by refusing to give up its lease
on the old place occupied by Brett
meyer.
"The trouble Is that the brewery
cannot put another saloon In the
same block with customer in ac-
cordance with the rules OF the brew
cry trust said Aid. Dingeman. II
advise Breitmeyer TO go out and
loosen the hold of the brewery and
then we can settle the other matter
here"
The application of W. ]. Galland,
OF No. S91 Alexandrine-ave. east, to
transfer his license to premises at
No. las Wayne-st.. directly across
from the new Board OF Commerce