Evening journal., 1913-02-17
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whether we make 5000 COO or l,O0n,-
600 pounds. and SO are the inciden
tails Give us a contract of, say s.
100000 pounds and we Will make IL
at so cents ! think a contract was
let for 100000 at so cents The
Government officers found that they
did not need that much. So they ap-
peaied as Is shown In the House hear
ings. TO representatives, OF tho com
pany 10 know what bonus they would
charge them TO allow The Government
20 cut off the million or two million
pounds that IL did not need. The CONF
pany responded that under the cir
. cumstances they could deliver Il along
at different dates TO the Government
incidental TO their commercial busi-
ness-and they would charge nothing
for the forfeit OF contract; that thcS
would be very glad to cut It down.
] believe that we ought 20 cut out
tho limits proposed, let the matter go
10 conference. and see what informa-
/ ton the other House has, and see
what may be done in conference, so
that we may not get entangled in a
situation where We would not gain
anything by the provision
Mr. Bristow The purpose is 10
, have uniformity in all of the bills
regarding this matter?
Mr.. Warren II is. and TO gol
further Information. We do moi
know what information the House
Committee on Military Affairs has. We
propose 10 put it in conference, an,
for that purpose the clause was
stricken out
Mr.. Bristow What has been tn,
experience of the Senator in regard &,
the powder factories that have beer
established by the Government? Are
they successful?
Mr. Warren consider them sue
cossful I'm the way that they are run
/ am sure they act as an assurance
to the Government that the Govern
mont can make certain amount, and
furthermore, they provide us all th'
time with tests as 10 cost and quality
Mr. BristOW THAT is, the powder
which the Government rs making IL
costing about 80 cents for tho
ordnance and for the small armi
about As cents.
Mr. Warren.-lt is costing that as
said. for the absolute outg0 for ma
torial and labor
Mr.. Bristow If that is the case
. why should we not make all of oui
; powder instead Of paying much more
TO a private company?
Mr. Warren-In order TO get that II
would probably require the eNpendi-
ture of S5.000.00O to Sl0,O0OOOO In
! works and materials. II takes SO
much for buildings, and so fourth. anc
, about our only use for our big in.
} vestment would be In war times. II
! would be possible to get along In
times OF peace with moderate powder
! works. but in times of war we would
be entirely at the mercy OF other
( countries unless we had tremen.
dous establishment.
Mr. Brstow--l have not studied tho
/, matter sufficiently to discuss 1t al
length, my attention only having beer
called to It this afternoon, but
wanted to get all the information
could 10 seems to me that we arc
not justified in paying so much foi
powder, and ! think that further con.
; sideration should be given to the mat
ter
Mr.. Warren-I can understand tn,
[ way the Senator feels. II we cal
, make our own powder, we ought Il
/ do it I think that is right In a Ger
b tain way. but we ought not to burr
our bridges so that we would no
:. have access TO a certain amount o
+. machinery in readiness TO furnish "a
q In time OF war.
/. The amendment was agreed TO
B II viii be seen, therefore. that thl
} inference conveyed by certain Wash
ington dispatches sent out wcr,
4 wholly unjustfed