The evening world., 1913-09-30


Then the Governor said 20 me 'Did
with you were Mrs. Suixer's7 She had
a loan with the Carnegie Trust Com
pany which was very annoying. ana
that's why I borrowed the money from
you
~ said that nothing like that could
he showh on my books. and " he wanted
to prove that the books of the Carne-
gle Trust Company would show ~.
"He offered to provide mo with an
attorney. but I said. No. ! Will attend
to that myself
"1Ie then said he would Reimburse
mo for any expense / might be put to-
sULzER DIDN'T sAv WHY NE
HAD GENT ron BROKER.
Q. Did the Governor say at all why
he had sent for your A. No.
q. Did you inquirer A. I supposea he
wanted to To over tho account.
=. Did you 20 over tho account A.
] called his attention TO the two Items.
one OF >s.oO and one Of $4,000. and
told him ] thought they were what the
Frawley Committee wished 10 inquire
about.
y. Did the Governor ask you 20 follow
Attorney Marshalra opinion that the
committee was not legally organised
and that you need not testify? A. Only
In No far as he quoted Mr.. Msrshairs
opinion.
q. hid he ask you to follow Mar.
shails advice? A. lie did not.
a. Did the Governor. In words or In
substance. say that your Testimony Or
your books would be personally detri.
mental ito him? A. lie did not
The witness was then Questioned
about n statement made by his attor-
ney. judge Olcott, before the Frawley
COMMITTEES on Aug. 4. In which Il was
stated that the witness had had q con-
ference with the Governor since his
appearance before tho committee on
AUG. 8. and that the Governor had un.
scaled his lips"
Mr.. Fuller said there had been no con-
ference with the Governor ut the time
referred TO. but with one Of the Cover.
nor's lawyers.
Returning to the conference with the
Governor on Sept. II. Mr.. Fuller said he
had seen the Executive at the latter's
ohice In New York and that the Cover
nor had requested . Transcript Of his ac-
count to give to Judge Hcrrick.
The Governor also asked me n I
would come to Albany to explain Il II
wanted. and I replied that l would" the
witness declared.
APPEARED DGFoRE sULzgR ON
WALL STREET BILLS.
q. "Did you appear before Gov. Sui
Ser early this year with reference to
certain legislation affecting the New
York stock Exchange?"
A. Il did"
=. And his account was in your Of
Nee at that time
A, 1T was"
That's all: you may examine" said
Attorney Kre'el to the couhsel for the
Mr. iinman began the cross-examina-
ton. his questions NJ first dealing prin-
cipally with the witnesas appearance
before the Frawlsy committee.
The cross-examinatlon also went into
the details OF Mr., Fuller's appearance
before the Assembly Board of Managers
IN New YORK on sept y.
On redirect examination. Attorney
kresel asked IL the Sulzer account had
not appeared on the hooks OF Harris n
Fuller AS mo. 63?''
ut DID," was the reply.
The witness added that the name
William Sulzer' appeared on every
PAGE where any item OF the account
appeared.
Asked by senator Thompson 10 ex-
plain why the account WAS entered both
ny name and number. the witness re-
piled that Il was for ONCE convenience.
Then. too" he added. ~ suppose we
felt that some people don't care to have
their names appear as traders In stocks"
you are not so particular about all
your accounts?" asked Judge Cullen.
mo-" was the reply.
Cornelius q. Pinkney. a New York
lawyer. the next witness, told OF giving
q check for ScO to Gov. suizer on Nov
IL. 1912.
II went TO Suiser's ONCE" the witness
said. and asked him II he needed any
money. He replied that he had no OBJ
jections to receiving contributions, pro-
vided the donors could afYord to con-
tribute. I then sat down and began to
write . check"
GAYS suLzER HELD THE GIFT
WAS PERSONAL.
| Attorney Stanchnsld then brought
out that the witness had f,rst started
20 make out the check TO civilian
suiser," but later had made II out ia
Louis A. sarecky," at the Governor s
Suggestion.
q. what did Candidate suissr
ssyi 4. Ths oovsraor saad that
this IVES . personal matter between
himself saA myssif-thst he con.
siAsssA u . gaft HIS s1sct words
- remember them wsrsi y don't
intend - account for these kind Of
riSts. they must bs made between
you sAA myself. Uoa't Say any
thing shout ~
Former Congr essman Harvey &, Oar
ber Of Columbus. o., Vice. President u
steel car company. told OF contrib
uting )i0O to Sulser on oct. 3, 1919.
A letter accompanied the check. tn
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