South Bend news-times. (South Bend, Ind.) 1913-1938, 1913-07-25
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1 didn't say present city official"
O. Then in your statement as 70
your knowledge OF city officials here
you didn't refer 70 any OF the present
city officials. Is that true?"
A. In that statement 1 did not;
no sir"
Q. Then you have no knowledge
OF any city official who is at present
connected with the city administra-
ton being offered any bribe?''
A. Il made no such statement"
No Present Official.
Q. And you do not say so now"
A. II did not make that state
ment,-no sir"
Q. rs Mr.. Jarrett still living in
the city,"
Q. Did you report this statement
or give it TO some representative of
the Tribune?"
A. 'I have stood for the statement
Il don't quite see the point Of your
question"
O. "I want 10 know II you had
made that statement TO a representa-
tive OF the Tribune?"
A. II made the statement from
my pulpit and IL was reported in the
Tribune, as you see"
Q. You didn't make II direct TO
a reporter Of the Tribune?"
A. Il may have made II there; the
reporters wait on me every week; /
probably did; but I made that state
ment from my pulpit
@. And after you had made IL in
your pulpit you made it to the re-
porter also?"
A. Il suppose I did-the report
ers both como TO me every Monday
for items"
Q. Then you made the statement
to the reporter"
Not Absolutely Sure.
A IT anne not absolutely sure what
I said to him mean the details
but l made that statement from my
pulpit"
@. Then you made IT TO The re-
porter with the express view OF him
publishing it TO the community. didn't
you p"
A. Whatever statement 1 made 1
knew he would publish"
Q. AT the time you made. that
statement, Mr.. Edwards, weren't you
conscious of the fact that the general
public would believe you referred TO
the present city officials?"
A. ''The logic of my argument is
clear TO the people who heard me-"
@. 1T isn't clear in this article ?"
A. DO you want me 10 make IL
cIear?"
Q. Il say it isn't clear in this ar
ticle who you mean?"
A. IF you-if the council wants
me 10 make il clear"
q. I'VE, are talking about your
statement where you say. L know
where city officials here were offered
$500 10 permit certain law violations.
and 1 simply want to know IL you
want TO believe that you mean the
present incumbents in Office"
Explains Statement.
A. 81 mean this: That where
such offers have been made 10 city
officials that it stands to reason and
the logic OF the situation is If the
conditions are the same that existed
when money is once offered that the
community has a right to think it is
being done now"
Q. Then you made this statement
TO the public with a view TO making
the public believe that the present
city officials were dishonest based
purely upon Suspicion
A. mo sir. 1 did not"
@. isn't that just what you said ?"
A. 81 did not"
@. Isn't that just what you said p"
A. 81 did not say that. / said that
the conditions for which money had
been offered city officials are now ex-
listing, and the community has a
right to suspicion that offers are be-
ing made the same now as before"
Q. And yet you cannot give this
! committee any specific instance Of
any such official while you have been
: here being offered a bride TO do any,
thing corrupt"
No Specific Instances.
A. 'I cannot, and I have made no
such statements. If this committee
wants to make an investigation Of
misconduct"
q. L am asking you about your
/ statement in the newspaper"
A. L understand this is TO find
! out the misconduct Of city officials,
and / could furnish"
.. And these statements given TO
the reporter and 10 your congrega-
ton were given TO have them believe
that officials OF this city were re-
ceiving bribes?"
A. II said that their course was
/ opening them to the suspicion that
they were receiving bribes."
Q. You wanted them TO believe
that they were?"
A I said their course opens
! them to suspicion, and that statement
l Will stand by"
Q. And the statement you made
was based upon your own suspicion 2
Based Upon Suspicion.
A. 1T was based upon my suspi-
| ciOn,-yes sir"
Q. Now. Mr. Edwards, we pass 10
/ that part Of your statement where
4 you say. AS long as the city officials
/ do not enforce the laws they lay
| themselves liable TO criticism and
| they are fools IL they are not getting
| something out OF H.. You made that
| statement also, did your"
A. II made IT."