Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1913-06-03
SAYS HE
HAS NEVER KNOWN
Of TARIFF LOBBY
Senator Gives Names of It's
Who Called on Him About
Measure.
GREAT INTERESTS HAVE
AGENTS, FREELY ADMITS
He Confesses That w. l. Mar
vim Represents Wool Peo-
pie in Washington.

/ WASHINGTON, June 3.-Senator
Penrose today told the special Senate
/ committee hunting for the lobby
that in his sixteen years experiences
1 in Washington he never Rad known
Of any attempts TO improperly infu-
enee members of Congress. He gave
| the names of 175 persons who ha1
called on him since January 1st or
the tariff. but declared none wers
.'lobbyists' in the general aeceptation
Of the term
Its well known that certain inter-
ests have agents here said the SEN
ator. and I suppose they are paid
( salaries. They evidently get informa-
tion for their organizations Their
work is perfectly legitimate I have
seen Mr.. Burgess. for the pottery
/ interests. here for years, and Mr.
Brown. for the cotton people Their
work Is perfectly legitimate as far
/ as / know. Ny own opinion is that
the lobbyist is principally a thing of
the past. Congressional committees
pay little attention 10 them now
wSoI interests Agent.
Senator Penrose thought that prob
ably Winthrop L. Marvin, of Boston.
represented .'the wool people IN
Washington, ana Senator Reed was
insistent to learn if Marvin ever ha6
anything TO do with fixing the tariff
on wool or Brown with the cotton
4 tariff. Senator Penrose insisted the
men did nothing more than present
arguments to senators and repre-
sentatives. and that neither had any
thing to do with making the rates
of the Payne law
Senator Reed did develop on cross
examination, however. that Mr.. Mar
vim at one time was secretary Of
| joint congressional committee 10 IN
vestigate the merchant marine
Senator Penrose was the livelieet
witness of the morning session. Other
senators testified they knew OF NJ
undue influences and told Of their
personal interests. The list OF Is
names which Mr., Penrose gave taa
committee was composed OF tn
manufacturers. labor leaders, attcr-
neys, importers and others who feared
they would be affected by tariIz
changes.
The steel industry and coal inter-
ests of Pennsylvania have had no
permanent Representatives in WASH
ington for many years. Senator PEN
rose said. Their custom Of keeping
Representatives in Washington had
died out ten or twelve years ago.
He estimated that not more than s
/ per cent as many persons had CONS
), to Washington on tariff business this
! year as compared with four years
! ago, but Reiterated that the persons
here now were here at previous tarif
revisions.
The second day of the SEN
late inquisition for "the lob
by began with approxinate-
~ one fifth of the total number o.
senators disposed of At such a rate
of progress it would take four days
4 more to finish the investigation The
Senate has allowed ten.
Working with morning afternoon
and night sessions and under the con-
sent of the Senate itself TO absent
themselves from regular sessions to
| hear witnesses. members of the SUBJ
committee taking the testimony were
confident today they would finish this
week.
Senator Brady. Of Idaho one Of
the new members, had not finislre
his letter when the investigator
stopped last night and he was read
to proceed today. The first days
inquiry had not definitely located tbs
/ lobby" nor developed the names
Of any lobbyists" using impropeE
methods. in the opinion of Senator's
to influence their action on the tariff. 4
Senator Mclean was called as thaS
first witness. He testified he Was q
small stockholder in several eorpora-
Q = ..r41.T =.
fiuence senators because Of his in
terests He gave list Of various
/ callers who discussed the tariff with
him, but he considered none Of them
lobbyists
senator MeLean's Callers.
Among Senator McLeans Con-
nect,cut callers were Marcus L
FLOYD, of Hartford, and Fred Griffin.
of Tariffville; Horace B. Cheney.
South Manchester: George L
Cheney. Deep River: I. D. Russell,
New Britain; Colonel W. w. Skiddy.
Stamford: Frederick E. Kip. Bridge
port: H. NJ. Greist and Mr.. Ensign.
The audience at today's inquiry
thinned down to four within the first
hour.
Senator Dillingham; testified he had
no financial interest in any business
affected by the tariff or other legis-
lation and represented no one who
had. He could not remember the
names of persons who had talked
with him except a Mr.. Ullman. Of
New York. who urged that no dhtF
be put on green furs. He knew Of
no lobby or the use of money to af-
feet legislation
Giving Callers Names.
Senator Fletcher gave among the
names of his visitors c. z. Berr
man, of Chicago and Tampa in re-
gard to Havana cigars: G. Harold
Powell. representing California cit
rous fruit interests. and Mr. Davie,
of Colorado and Florida. concerning
. the beet sugar business.
Senator Fall testified he was q
large owner of cattle. horses. sheep
and coal. He gave the names Of cat-
tlemen who had visited him IN the
interest of health restrictions on the
importation Of meat, and officials q
wool growers association urging
duties on wool
Under cross examine ton. senator
Fali said Mir. Burhriake, q l'ele-
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