The Washington herald., 1913-06-11

Mr.. BaIIou produced almost under pro-
test, few books OF check stubbs
He had had but one account. and his
personal expenditures were all mixed up
with those made in the interest Of the
sugar fight, and Mr.. Ballou was forced
to depend upon his memory to separate
them. He told the committee that the
amount accounted for in his check books
did not represent all the money that
had passed through his hands, as some
of IL had come in checks made out TO
him and which he had Endorsed over TO
the producers or the beet sugar inter-
ests. whichever happened to be the case.
An interesting political disclosure was
dropped by Baliou when he declared that
Senator Gore had extended sympathy to
the Hawaiian sugar interests anu sus-
gested that he come around and resume
the fight after the bill leaves the Senate
Mr.. Carter in the morning had quoted
the same remark without naming It's
source, except that, according to MI.
Carter. the, sugar people had been told
to come around after the bill becomes
law. Whether this is thrown out as
suggestion that the Democrats did not
expect to retain the free sugar pro-
vision in the law long enough to let II
become effective. or whether it means
merely that they believe the Hawaiian
people themselves will be satisfied later
is a matter of some speculation.
Carter Is Interesting.
Mr.. Carter was on the stand all the
morning, and gave the Senatorial in
quisitors an interesting and at some
stages a warm session. He resurrected
the charge that President Wilson has
been clubbing certain Senators into line
on the sugar schedule, and mentioned
the names of Senators Swanson OF Nir-
ginfa, williams of Mississippi, and Lewis
OF Illinois.
Carter is the first one, as far as can
be learned, who has injected the names
Of Swanson and Lewis into the contro-
versy in this connection. 1t is possible,
but not probable, that these three Sem
ators may be recalled under the agree
ment reached in the committee when
Senator Townsend charged Mr.. Wilson
with lobbying. 1t is believed. however.
that the same reasons which then made
1t improbable that this line of investi-
CATION would be pursued still obtain. that
the committee does not desire to force
the President himself to take the stand
Carter was not At all in friendly
frame of mind toward the White House.
He declared that he had been unable to
obtain an appointment with the Pres
ident in his capacity Of a representative
of the Hawaiian planters, and had. with
difficulty, obtained an appointment in the
capacity of a private citizen. Secretary
Tumulty had told him, he declared, that
the Presidents mind was made up on
the sugar question. Mr.. Ballou, in the
afternoon, declared that 1t was only
after a good deal OF urging that Secre-
tary Tumulty agreed to make an ap-
pointment for the Hawaiian delegate
with the President. Ballou had been
turned down on a request to be per-
mitted to talk sugar with the President.
VIII, Handles the Money.
Mr. Carter's testimony was decidedly
enlightening in many respects. He. de-
clared that the sugar people believed
that they represented the best interests
of tn consumer as we'll as of the pro-
Queer. He informed the committee that
the sugar people have an executive COM
mittee in New York in addition to the.
several committees in Washington and
throughout the West Although Mr..
Ballou later in the afternoon testified
that he handled all the Hawaiian money
and had disbursed about $50. 000 Mr.. Car
ter in the morning declared that R. d.
Mead handled all the money for the su-
gar people.
Mr.. ballou declared tndt ne REPRESENT
ed fifty-four Incorporated sugar eompa-
mics in Hawaii. and has been in WASH
ington since 1911. Most of his work has
to do with tariff bills. he declared.
though he does some departmental work
and watches immigration matters that
may affect Hawaii. He declared that he
sought to have Hawaii exempted from
the literacy test in the Dillingham; Bur-
nett bill of last session. because they
could not get literate whites in Hawaii.
and needed all the whites possible to
overcome a predominating Asiatic popu-
lation. /.
He declared that of the labor employed
on Hawaiian sugar plantations 1.339 are
native Hawaiians. 1906 Europeans, 1.ss9
Porto Ricans, 2,Is1 Chinese. 2s.l06 Japa-
nese, 1,5Ss Koreans. e.2ss Filipinos, and
only 627 Americans
Mr. Ballou declared that unquestiona-
bly, the free listing of sugar would bring