The Washington times., 1913-08-05
FORAKER DENIES
STORY OF MULHALL
Former Ohio Senator Says
"ColoneI" Was Social Chap
and Liked Himself Well.

Drifting casually into a discussion
of old-time political situations, all
the time talking in a drawing. half
amused tone, former Senator Joseph
4. Foraker of Ohio today related the
history of his acquaintance with
Martin NJ. Mulhall, former lobbyist
for the National Association of Man
ufacturers, denying every one Of Null
halls statements which connected
him with the fortunes of the n. A. NJ.
Foraker, the first witness who has
been able to deny Mulhalrs testimony
and at the same time keep his temper.
referred to Mulhall as "an exceedingly
social chap, who wrote ardent letters,
and really thought himself greater than
anybody else did" Instead Of calling
Mulhall names, he made the informer
squirm by referring to him in contemp-
tuous tones. Many of Mullhalrs allu-
sions he dismissed with the comment
that the lobbyist must have been griev-
iously mistaken or was totally in er-
rOr." He said, half apologetically, that
he always had thought Mulhall honest.
He denied that Mulhall had ever at
tended a secret conference of Repub-
lican Senators at his home in January
of 1908; that Mulhall had ever come to
Cincinnati to canvass leading politicians
as to their attitude toward his Presi-
dental candidacy; that he-Foraker-
had ever favored any national Asso-
citation of Manufacturers legislation.
or had ever helped them in any way.
David Lamar. the @ "Woif Of wall
Street." in the Union Pacific litigation
in 1897 and 1902. He corroborated La
mars testimony that he acted as coun-
sci for him In 1902 to prevent Union
Pacific stockholders from voting South
ern Pacific stock, and said that in 1897,
when the Union Pacific was to be sold
for $2S,O00,O00, he had declined to act
as counsel for Lamar in forcing the
reorganization committee to sell 1t at
higher figure Instead, he said, he
had brought the matter to the atten-
ton of Attorney General McKenna and
the latter had forced the sale at $751;
10000, and the payment of the entire
debt which the railroad owed the Gov-
ernment.
Denies Mulhall Charge.
When the committee convened,
Chairman Overman read a letter from
former Congressman Charles D. Lit
tlefield of Maine. mentioned proml-
nently by Mulhall as a n. A. NJ. aid,
asking permission to testify and
denying MIlbalrs charges. Overman
wrote him, telling him the committee
would be glad to hear him AT his con-
venience.
National Association of Manufac-
tGrers' counsel today gave the COM
mittee a long list of witnesses they
desire subpoenaed to refute Mulhalrs
testimony and letters. Overman said
he would subpoena them.
prefaced his answer to the Mulhall
charges By denying the testimony OF
Truman G. Palmer of the beet sugar
lobby" that he had aided Wilbur r.
Wakeman, Of the Tariff League, in
maintaining a tariff on products of
our insuIar possessions.
Though a protectionist," Foraker
said, II favor a lower rate on sugar
and tobacco from the Philippine Is
lands. particularly sugar"
Il came here from a sense OF duty
to the dead said Foraker. Lamar
testified that Governor Hoadley, then
Edward Lauterbach's partner, had
agreed to sell the road for s2S,0 900.
That was not true"
Foraker admitted also that, as La
mars counsel. he had brought injunc-
ton proceedings to prevent the Union
Pacific from voting Southern Pacific
stock. He said after the injunction was
granted, the suit was settled.
Turning to Mulhall, Foraker said he
had no direct knowledge of MuIhalrs
activity in his behalf, though he had
known MIN Tor thirty years.
But he may have been active" the
witness admitted. He was active in
Ohio politics. and was regarded as a |
good man TO have on your side. He
was known as a strong. active, capable |
man among labor people"
Foraker said he lost sight of Null !
hall after the campaign until he met |
him on a train coming from New York. !
Describe Mulhall.
'Mulhall is a sociable man." he ex-
planned. He likes to talk. When he |
gets on train. he looks around to see |
If there is anybody he knows. and if he |
does, there's a long conversation"
FOrakers kindly treatment of MuIhall
evidently amazed and touched that in
dividual. who sat near him. Foraker
was the first public man who has not |
held him up TO scOrn before the COM
mittee.
But" Foraker said. "I want to turn
now TO Mulhllrs letters to me. ! want
to show that most of his testimony
about me is unfOunded'
Referring to one letter, OF January q ]