New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-06-11
100000 FROM HAWAII
TO SAVE SUGAR DUTIES
Ex-Governor Carter Declares
Growers Ready to Spend Big
Sum for Protection.
AGENT GETS $4,000 A YEAR
Lobby Investigating Committee
Told of Large Amounts Elk
pended in Publicity Work
and Advertising.
From The Tribune Bureau

Washington. June 1O.-The troubles OF
the alleged sugar lobbyists were por-
trayed before the Senate investigating
committee to-day by Ex-Governor Carter
Of Hawaii. who said that he came TO
washington TO give information about
sugar This. according to his testimony,
was a more difficult task than might be
imagined. as he found It almost impos-
sible TO gain the ear of legislators and
administration officials.
At the White House. Mr.. Carter said.
ne was told that the President had made
up his mind other officials Of the ex-
ecutive department said that il was a
question TO be considered by tho legiSla-
tive branch, and the Legislators told him
that IL was in the hands of the executive
branch.
The net result of Governor Carriers
testimony was thet the Hawaiian sugar
growers were willing TO spend $4,000 to
save their investment of $4,000 600. II
necessary. but that he was kept running
around in a circle without achieving that
purpose.
Sydney Ballou. agent OF the Hawaiian
Sugar Planters Association, testified that
ne received salary of $1,000 a year and
5000 for expenses TO look after the in
terests Of the association in Washington.
He said that $4,000 had been expended by
him within the last few years, mostly in
publicity work and in the preparation OF
pamphlets and matter for advertising.
100000 Spent by Sugar Men.
Both Carter and Ballou agreed that
about 100000 had been spent by the sugar
men in their campaign against free sugar
but denied that there had been any tan
gible combination between the United
States cane and beet and Hawaiian cane
producers with common fund directed
to influence legislation.
Senators Walsh and Reed put ex-Gov-
ernor Carter through a sharp cross-ex-
animation. under which the witness APP
peared fully able TO take care Of him
self He declared that an audience with
President Wilson for the Hawaiian sugar
men had been denied by Secretary Tu-
multy, and that a member Of the Senate
Finance subcommittee in charge Of
sugar had suggested that they be given
a hearing after the passage Of the bill. y
Mr.. Ballou said later that Senator Gore
had made this statement.
Mr.. Carter said that Senators Swanson,
Lewis and Williams had told him or
Hawaiian friends that they were not in
sympathy with free sugar, but that since
IL was advocated by the Democratic
party they must vote for it. He declared
that he had got no satisfaction when he
spoke Of hearings to members of the
Cabinet. Representatives and Senator'S.
I'm Bull Mooser,'" he said in re-
sponse to an inquiry by Senator Cummins
As 10 his politics.
Mr., Ballous testimony was largely cor
decorative of that given by Mr.. Carter.
Wants to Bar Lobbyists.
81 Representative Murray, Of Oklahoma,
y took the lobby question into the House
to-day, with an effort 10 amend the rules
so as 10 make lobbyism subject TO very
drastic regulation at the Capitol. He pro-
posed an amendment Captioned Placing
a Limit TO Lobbying" 1t would declare
paid employment "as legislative agent for
any person, corporation or association"
contrary to public policy. and would bar
any government official or employe from
attempting 10 influence any member OF
the House to vote for or against any
measure affecting the pecuniary interest
Of the official or employee.
The measure provides that if the agent
of any interest fails to observe the rules
laid down and evades full publicity con-
corning his mission to Washington as a
lobbyist the name Of the offending legis-
lative agent shall be posted on a bulletin
board al the entrance Of the House
chamber and the person himself shall
be prohibited from entering the House
wing or appearing before any Of the COM
nittees Of the House during their con-
sideration Of legislation.