The Washington herald., 1913-07-08


airy 6. At that time Lauterbach had out
lined to Ledyard his connection witt
Lamar In relation to the Steel investiga.
ton. and his visits to members Of thu
Morgan firm. Two days after his first
visi, to Ledyard. he said. Lamar had
called on him at his house In the morning
and had asked the result Of the first cal
on Ledyard. Lauterbach declared that
he had come away satisfied that Ledyard
would see members Of the Morgan firm
and set him right" by showing that
their confidence.
Lauterbach continued:
Tells of Program.
HE Uamar) then said. Senator Stone
has been In telephone communication
with Mr.. Ledyard and has suggested that
he have an interview with you on the
subject of a general arrangement between
the Democrats and the Morgan and Steel
interests He said Ledyard would do 30
and that was to submit to him a pro-
gram in the way OF general political
adj stment of affairs.
Il was astonished. He said, 4 have
written out what know will be satisfac-
tory to the Democrats at Washington.
They are acting through Senator Stone.
He was interviewed in the matter and
represents the organization. asked him
what the matter was which he wished me
to present to Mr.. Ledyard and he gave
me the headings, as given by Mr.. Led
yard in his statement. I wrote them down
and presented them to Mr.. Ledyard at a
conference l had with him that after
noon. February s.
when Mr.. Lamar presented this pro-
gram to me / said to him. You say mat
has tor,
Stone. Can l communicate that to Mr..
Ledyard, and what assurance have l that
YOU have seen Senator StoneT
He said: He tSenator Stone) repre-
sents the organization In Washington.
He was able to have the Pujo committee
continue its investigation when the time
came to examine William Rockefeller at
Jekyl Island / said: I will do this only
on one condition. and that is that Senator
Stone may be communicated with by Mr..
Ledyard.' He said: Certainly / said:
Mr. Clark. too He said: Yes
Il then saw Mr.. Ledyard at his home
that afternoon. February s. Our CONVEX
sation was substantially as Mr.. Ledyard
told this committee.
"AlI Goes Back to Lamar"
81 did not agree with Mr.. Ledyard that
I wished to be 'un-Lamared.' or that. /
wished 20 dispel any impression that I
was enveloped in the atmosphere Of
Lamar
Lauterbach said that when Ledyard
started to mention a telephone CONVEX
sation of which he u.auterbach was su-
posed to have knowledge he thought he
referred to the alleged conversation with
Stone. of which Lamar had in
formed him that morning. He admitted
that he had told Ledyard that Speaker
Clark knew that the interview or one like
Il was taking place. and that he had en-
Ledyard to get into communi-
cation with Speaker Clark and verify
this.
1T all runs back to Mr.. Lamar said
Lauterbach told the committee of COR
ferences he had had with Lamar follow
ing the first expose by Representative
These had been numerous. On
one of these occasions Lamar had
brought Henry B. Martin to see Lauter-
bach. The committee was unable to as
certain why Lamar had brought Martin
Or what Martin had said.
Lauterbach told the committee that he
had upbraided Lamar for his part In the
affair and for involving him. The first
conference was June q. after Palmer
had testified.
Il asked Lamar IL he had asked the
for an opportunity to be
hat he had. We then talked Of what I
considered the outrageous action taken
against me. He spoke Of having imper-
sonated Representatives Riordan and
Palmer. I said. Mr.. Lamar. you should
have informed me what you were doing.
You should not have left me in ignorance
He said he only wished to bring to light
he conspiracy against me-"
Show Up Conspiracy.
What conspiracy do you mean?" Lau-
erbach was asked.
THE conspiracy led by Mr.. Ledyard to
rush me socially and professionally be-
,ause Of my affiliations with Mr.. Lamar"
What do you mean?
Il mean that Mr. Ledyard has been
working assiduously for two years to
ever my former pleasant relations with
Ar. Morgan and other big houses in New
FORK"
How
by making a statement that he was
,oing to say something derosatory to me
when he took the stand here"
But you said he had been up to this
or two years"
well. 1 suppose that from the begin |
ling of the severance Of my relations
With these big houses he had been the
moving spirit
Lauterbach was questioned about the
in Mr.. Ledyards statement. in |
which he was quoted as agreeing within
he latter's diagnosis Of Lamar's charac-
er-that he would be a genius IL he were |
straight. Lauterbach denied that he had
meant it in any opprobious sense. He
lenied that anything had been said about |
,lackmail in connection with Lamar's &C.
ivities
Tells of Coal Deal.
In one part Of his testimony Lauter-
zach told Of how he had almost engi-
,eered the sale Of controlling interest in !
he Tennessee Coal and Iron Company
o J. p Morgan in the spring Of 1907.
He said that in the closing days Of the |
Taft administration Lamar had asked
lin to arrange through Attorney General
for an interview between
Charles Schwab, who was expected to
estify later in the governments Suit
gainst the Steel Trust, and Former Sec
etary Of War Dickinson. special counsel
or the government. He said he did not
NOW why the interview was desired or
What transpired between Mr.. Dickinson
md Mr.. Schwab. Attorney General
he said. arranged for the
which took place in Mr.. Dick
nson's office in New York, Lauterbach
Schwab and leaving him
here.
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