The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1913-06-26

tiations with the Government or rather
the pending application before the Circuit
Court for approval Of an agreement to
exchange certain Southern Pacific stock
for certain Baltimore and Ohio stock. II II
was a scheme OF the bankers to secure Il
common control Of the rennsy lvana. Union
Pacific. Southern Pacific and Baltimore and
ohio. 1t would naturally, II II was be-
lieved. provoke hostility. because the
Supreme Court has decreed that there
shall not be any CONTROL at least so far as
the Union Pacific and the Southern Pacific
are concerned. n these publications were
widespread 1t might lead to the intro
duction OF some resolution and perhaps
to the passage OF some resolution in Con
eress condemning the proposition now be-
fore the court. as to which the Attorney
General has been making some investiga-
tions and in that way defeat the plan that
IL now pending and which must be deter
mined by July I In order to avoid re-
ceivership of the stock OF the southern
Pacific which the Union Pacific owns,
said "a he Part ~ plan.
"Is 1t YOUR idea. ." asked Senator Walsh,
! that the circulation of these rumors
and the publcatio Of the statements
concerning such a common banking
control-that IL to say. consolidation of
these interests was a part Of the plan
Of generating hostility against your en-
terprises"
\. That was my idea.
q. You believed that the same parties
who were thus endeavoring to force the
employment YOU speak about had caused
, these stories 10 be circulated for the pur-
pose of arousng hostility toward YOU
\. | believed that and Mr. Kahn was
| very positively Of the opinion this news
paper publication to which referred was
inspired by the same parties who were
, seeking to force relations with us In this
matter.
q 1t was for the purpose Of dispOssess-
ing the public mind of that idea that YOU
gave the interview: 4. Yes. that was
true. Senator
q And In what paper did the statement
OF such purpose on your par, appear?
DO YOU recall" A. saw IL first on one
of the news bureau slips In New York.
YOU will observe" added Judge Low
EFT a moment later that that is dated
on the 18th. My statement was made
ON the 18th. and 1t was on the morning
Of the 18th that Edward Iauterbach
called on Mr.. Kahn again"
Importun~d Two or Three Months.
y Could you tell us over about wha,
period the opportunities extended Mr.
! l.oveu" A. Well, IL would he A rough
, estimate. probably two or three months
Y. A. | understood you. they began
Immediately after the Supreme court ren.
| dered its decision A. Yes, it was. not
very long after the decision.
Mr.. Lovett in his testimony referred
to an experience which Lewis Cass
, I.edyard, a New York lawyer. had.
| Soon after my statement was pub
lished." said Judge Lovett, Mr. Led
yard communicated with me and told me
| Of communications that he had by tele
phone from some person seeking Ia
have some other person employed. who
represented himself as being a member
~ Congress; bat MIR. Ledyard took
occasion to have that representation
checked ny. He had had a number Of
! conversations and found ont that the
man who was representing himself as a
member Of Congress WAS not in fact
a member Of Congress and was falsely
impersonating a member of Congress"