The Washington times., 1913-07-31
SENATORS .WRANGLE
At LOBBY INQUIRY
Stormy Scenes Mark the Ex-
animation of Colonel MuI-
hall BY Senators.

Storm scenes marked today's session
the Senate lobby probers. Col NJ.
Mulhan. former lobbyist for the n
-. NJ. lost his temper, several commit
members had spirited passages at
ms and Attorney Robert McCarter,
the n. A. NJ, interrupted proceed
H. Is with bitter protest as a result
{. the attempt to begin cross-examina-
t1'n of Mulhall.
Senator Overman started reading the
q estions which were submitted by Nc
t.rter The lawyer objected strenuous
j.. demanding that he be permitted To
!, I'd his own interrogatories.
Chairman OVerman pretaced the cross
examination by warning Mulhall not to
lose his temper in answering Quesuons.
Overman put all the questions. He took
III MulhalFs career previous to his con-
Il, teton with the n. A. NJ. Mulhall de-
sc that after joining the Cleveland
O.io, police force in 1881, he was ols-
y, ssed in 1888 for violation of an ONO
:, ate law.
ms" he said John Farley, jr.. Dem
q ratio mayor, dismissed me-"
Robert McCarter, counsel for the
y. A. M, objected to the committee
rtting the question
There has been a change Of attitude
dIS uS
JcCarters said the committee had
greed to let the n. A NJ. counsel put
the questions. He said that while ne
realized that this was not a court TRIAL
he believed, that since MulhaL in
vestigation had covered such a broad
scope, it was only just that the people
most seriously concerned by Mulhalfs
testimony, should have the right to
ulsprove his assertions
Accuses Mulhall
This man, by outbreaks and infer
400 members of the N. A NJ. and we
believe have the right of attacking
these statements" he said.
We want fair treatment. We could
not tell in preparing these questions,
what answers this witness would make.
Unless followed up, some of our Ques-
lions will be unintelligible."
Senator Cummins agreed with McCar-
Ter and declared the record showed the
committee had agre< to len the asso-
cations counsel propSund the Ques-
tions.
Senator Reed insisted mat the COM
nittee ask the questions, declaring if
the N. A. NJ. had the right to be repre-
Sented by counsel, every other associa-
lion and person named by the witness
had the same right
This is an investigation, not trial,
he said
Chairman Overman, over the obpec-
tons of Senator Reed, granted McCar-
ter permission to ask the questions.
Amid the babel of voices, all raised in
contrary argument, Senator Nelson
doomed forth:
Mr.. Chairman, move We adjourn"
Reed objected TO this, saying:
Let US conduct this examination
without counsel
You won't do that" interrupted Nc
Carter.
I'VE will" said Reed. 81 won't hear
You will hear another word, whether
you like 1t or not" stormed McCarter.
II don't care. Senator Reed, what you
think, I have some rights here"
Chairman overman Gained the irTi-
tated factions by pounding so hard,
everybody had to be silent. This lasted
only a moment though. Mulhall start
ed to talk again in querolous, high
pitched voice. Then Chairman Over
nan. until now. only unperturbed MEM
ber of the committee, lost his temper
Pounding the table at each word, he
said:
-will-have-to- keep-still-wh
-I-say-so. Do-you-hear7'
Mulhall was silenced and Chairman
Overrnan said he would ask the cross
examination questions.
Answers Questions.
Ine CIOSS-c0dIDlndLlOn CueS-
TORS, Mulhau said that his statement
that he made his letters public to clean
out the ''insidious lobby and to ''ren-
der great public service was an &C
curate one.
He denied that he sent Samuel z.
Springer. OF Baltimore. to carious Phila-
delphia and New York newspapers in
an attempt to sell his N. A. N. let
ters.
It's a vicious lie,' he cried.
Senator Cummins arose.
81 won't stand for that" he said.
We'll. he's had some ilIustrious ex-
amples in that kind OF language" broke
in Senator Reed.
Overman made the witness apologize
and warned him TO be more moderate
Mulhal insisted that Emery and Bird
were fully cognizant that he paid Harry
Nell and Harry Parker, House Office
Building janitors, and 1. H. McMichaels.
former chief page Of the House, a
monthly salary.
He swore the payment was made
every month while Congress was in ses-
sion, during 1863, 1910 and 1911 Nc
Michaels salary, he said was $50 a
month.