Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-07-03
Auditors Name Refused.


Senator Walsh wanted to know who
audited the leagues accounts consisting
of money collected from all over the
country Martin said he preferred not
to answer the question, because it might
injure some one.
Il can't possibly follow you,' declared
Senator Walsh, when you refuse to tell
what committee audits your accounts.
Senator Walsh said it was evident he
did not obtain enough salary from the
league to support himself. and asked
what other means of livelihood he had
Martin responded he did some writing
collected trust statistics and had made
some railroad inventions.
Senator Walsh inquired for what peri
odicals he wrote Martin whispered with
Mr. Shulteis. his COUNCIL, and then SAID
Shulteis suggested he consult him before
going into details about his private In
come.
Senator Walsh insisted the witness tel
the periodicals for which he had writ
ten signed articles. Martin responded
he had contributed articles to nearly al
the New York newspapers.
Denies Monetary Interest.
Martin said that he had never known
of any of Lamar's business activities
earnestly, that 1 have not now anc
never have had one penny of interest in
any transaction in which Mr. Lamar OIL
any one else was interested in Wal
street"
The witness said that at a later
time he wished to make a statement as
to the speech of Representative Little
ton in the last Congress attacking Lamar
and himself.
Of H.
Lamar telephone conversations until they
were brought out before the committee
He also said that he knew nothing of the
steel trust investigation resolution being
''hawked about the streets of New York
for sinister purpose
II don't know anything about that" he
said, 1T was matter of Wall street
jugglery that l was not familiar with.
Senator Overman asked the witness Il
tell the committee in his own way what
he knew about lobbying and lobbyists
Tells of Railroad Lobby.
There was lobby in Washington las
week. began Martin. There was a lobby
representing the trust or conspiracy tina
has been found guilty of monopolizne
the Southern Pacific railroad. Mr.. Lovet
was here and Paul Cravath was with
him. They lobbied the Department o
Justice and monopolized it for four hour.
at a stretch.
They had been found guilty of con
spiracy. / believe that IL this is investi
gated it would be found that they were
guilty of lobbying"
He suggested they lobbied with the At
torney General and clerks.
Armor Plate Lobby.
There is another lobby that was her
in March. composed of the heads of tn
armor plate trust, which was seeking t
secure from the retiring Secretary of tn
Navy contract that would have cos
the government millions of dollars, Mar
tin continued. He named A C. Dicke,
of the Carnegie Steel Company, Vic
| President Archibald Johnson of the Beth
| lehem Steel Company, and Vice Presi
| dent Petire of the Midvale Steel Compan,
| as the members of the lobby"
IAN active part of that lobby is tn,
Navy League" he said j. p Morgan
| jr., and Herbert Satterlee of Morgan
| & Co, he named asinterested in the Nav,
League.
THE result of their continued lobby
| ing" he said, has resulted in the United
States paying hundreds of millions fo
obsolete ships and useless armor."
Perhaps Carnegie peace foundation
| has organized lobby that offsets tn,
| armor plate lobby" suggested Senator
Cummins.
NO. it has not declared Martin
Carnegie gets the largest profit from
| the armor contracts"
| At the conclusion of Martins testi
mony the committee recessed unit
4:30. when G. Harold Powell Of tn,