The Washington times., 1913-08-20
REVEALS SECOND
FUND To DEFEAT
LOAN SHARK BILL
Horning Testifies $1,000 Was
Given by Note Brokers and
ChatteI Mortgage Men.
HAS $1,000 STILL ON HAND
Will Be Expended in Fighting
Law in the CourtS-BaIance
Spent for Legal Services.

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The existence of two funds instead
OF one to defeat the loan shark bill
IN the Sixty-second Congress was
finally revealed to the House lobby
Investigating committee today by
George D. Horning, Washington
pawnbroker, who resumed his testi-
mony.
The committee suddenly obtained
from Horning today statements that
IN addition to the pawnbrokers' fund
regarding which he testified yester-
day, there was another fund of ap-
proximately $4,000, contributed by
note brokers and chattel mortgage
men to oppose loan shark legisla-
ton.
Has $1,000 Still On Hand.
OF this latter fund, Horning says he
now has more than 5000 on hand,
which will be expended in fighting the
loan shark law in the courts. The sum
of s., 900. he testified, already has been
expended for legal services.
n sharp interchange between Con-
1ressman Nolan and Attorney Henry
Z. Davis, who was spectator, enliy-
ened the hearing today. Mr.. Davis in
Hlted the Congressman to repeat out
SIDE the question which, the attorney
nelo, reflected upon transactions be-
between Mr.. DAVIS and Mr.. Horning.
At the opening of the hearing today,
Isaac Heidenhelmer was re-eXamined
briefly regarding the final settlement
with Hornlng on the loan shark bill
fund.
Mr.. Ferris asked Heidenheimer If ne
knew the Bill Hart" retained py
Aorning, according to yesterdays tes-
Il don't know who he is" said Held
enheimer.
There are two Bill Harts, father
and SOM"
Il don't know"
Did you Introduce Herman J. Schulz
tets to Horning?"
i sent him down there"
Mr.. Horning was then recalled and
Congressman Nolan begun a vigorous
cross examination.
The Questioning had not proceeded far
when the wrangle between Congress
man Nolan and Attorney Henry E
Davis occurred. Mr. Nolan had asked
a number OF questions regarding the
1900 fee paid Mr.. Davis and the latter S
receipt of February 26, 1912.
Isn't it true that this receipt was
not given you on this date. ami you
didn't get 1t Until this investigation
came up?"
Davis Challenges Nolan.
Jumping to his feet, Mr.. Davis said:
Il object to that question. 1t contains
an insinuation that the receipt was
manufactured for this investigation.
II invite you to repeat the question
outside this room"
II intended TO convey that" retorted
Congressman Nolan, and if it will do
you any good will repeat it anyW here"
Chairman Garrett raped loudly for
order, and the incident was passed
over.
The Davis fee was the subject of a
long interchange between the witness
and committee members.
Did you ever receive any other
money to defeat loan shark legisla-
tion?' asked Chairman Garrett.
For several days the committee has
been endeavOring to learn II thele
were outside contributions.
Mr.. Horning then told OF new fund,
outside of the s., I34 made up by him
self. Heidenheimer and Burnstine.
The witness said there was d sep
arate fund collected from note brok-
ers' or 'chatIel mortgage" lenders.
who gave TO this
-. h Masters, then IN Philadelphia.
gave 5000; A. Case gave 500 or $500;
Mr.. Bishop, 5000; man named Watts.
Wsll, Of Chicago, 3, ,00), and l gave $3.50
TO 5000"
That makes another fund Of nearly
$500" said Mr.. Garrett
What went with that money and
when was IL colIeCted?''
1T was collected before the $3, 700
pawnbrokers fund. 1t was made up
when the first loan shark bill was in
troduced before 1911.
We paid out Of 1t 1900 to Tucker
Kenyon & Macfarland and 5000 to Mr..
Davis"
Another 600 to Davis?"
Yes
Making $4,000 in au?"
Yes"
For what?"
For legal services in the loan shark
matter. Mr. Tucker is now fighting the
bill in the courts. / have about s. 900 or
$500 OF this money still on hand"
What are you going TO do with the
5000 or so you have on hand?" asked
Mr.. Russell.
We are going TO fight the loan shark
bill in the courts, said HOrning. We
are going to keep on fighting. because
VIC were 4ON gwen a ldlT $40" Ds IDU-
gress; l think the bill in unconstitu-
tIonaL"
"Who treated you unfairly"
The whole House District Committee
treated US unfairly. Our attorney VAS
given only ten minutes TO present cur
side
Horning Tells of Loans
Taking up his loans TO McMichaeI,
former McDermott protege, Horning de
MED that he had received message
from McDermOtt to charge go No
Michael note to profit and loss on
loan shark bill"
He also denied that he had ever ask
ed McMiChael to sign MCDermo;ts
name on one Of MCMichael's so notes.
Il wouldn't ask anybody to commit
forgery" he said spiritediy."
HorninE said he had not charged
on the $50 ncte owed by McMichael.
Asked about his loans to Congress
Horning said the full Indebtedness Of
McDermott was SI,0S5. The amount
is still owing, but there have been no
financial transactions between the two
for eighteen months.
Mr.. Russell wanted to know If Nc
permOtt's attitude on the loan shark
loans.
"McDermott naturally would be
against the bill He was a card
rnan"-a labor union man. The loans
had nothing TO do with it"