The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1913-06-03
HUNT FOR LOBBY
HAS DISCLOSED
N0TH|NCS0 FAR
Second Day Of Investigation
Practically. Covers Same
Ground as Yesterday.
EXPECT TO FINISH
WORK THIS WEEK
inquiry Began this Morning. Slate
Practically One-flfth OF Senators
Disposed of-Solons Absent Selves
From Sessions to Hear Testimony.
GRoNNA ON STAND.

GRoNNA ON STAND.
Washington. June 3.-Senator
S0ronna Of North Dakota was the
last witness heard before the
noon recess by the special senate
committee hunting for a lobby"
He testified that he was interested
In farming. and knew Of no lobby.
He never had been approached
improperly regarding any legisla-
tion, he satd.
IT don't believe there is any
such thing a. corrupt action go
Ing on at either end Of the capi-
toll" he declared. He gave the
G. Bovey Of Minneapolis. repre-
senting Minneapolis milling COM
panies, who presented arguments
- TO him supporting duty on -four.
Washington. June s.-The second
began with approximately one.fifth Of
the total number Of senator's disposed
Of. At such rate Of progress It
would take four days more to finish
the Investigation. The senate has al
lowed ten, working morning. after
noon and night. sessions, and. under
the consent Of the senate itself. the
regular sessions In order to hear the
witnesses. Members Of the sub-com-
mittee taking testimony are confident
today that they will finish this week.
Senator Brady Of Idaho, one Of the
new members. had not finished his
testimony when the investigators
stopped last night and was ready to
The f,rst days Of the inquiry have
not definitely located lobby" nor
developed the names Of any lobbyists
using improper methods. in the opin-
ion Of senator's. to influence their ac-
ton on the tariff.
Mclean Small Stoc1kholder.
Senator Mclean, however, testified
to being q small .stockholder in sew.
eral corporations;s4bu but newer. sought
to influence senator's because OF his
interests. He gave 9 list OF vArioue
callers VINO dtecussed, the tarin. but
he con.adsfsd them nsa;io or seyi:ts lists ~.
thinned down to -FOUR within the first
Senator Dillingham; testified that he
had no financial interest in any busi-
ness effected by the. tariff or other
legislation; and represented no one
who had. He knew Of no lobby or
the use Of money to effect Hesitation:
Senator Dillingham; on the stand. but
their testimony did not disclose evil
dence of what they regarded as -
lobby, although both had been inter-
viewed by men In interests erected by
the tariff. Under cross examination
Senator Fall named Burbidge OF COL
orado. whom he believed interested
in the zinc trust" who talked to
him. He said, however, his attitude
was one Of indifference.
Clarke Has No Legal Interest.
Senator Clarke OF Arkansas said he
had no legal connection with any In
terests before congress-; that he had
not sought to influence any one to
vote for anything. Once during the
present session, he said, he had In
vited three Louisiana rice experts to
his office to discuss the effect of the
proposed rice tariff upon the product
Of Arkansas. As result Of that con-
ference, he said, he had not made any
representations to other senators. He
declared he had not seen or come IN
contact with any lobbying" at the
capitol.
sumed the stand to conclude his tes-
timony, said he believed there were
'fewer legislative agents or repre-
sentatives here than during previous
er influences were exerted by bonn
harding senators with inspired tele-
grams rather than by interviews with
them, adding that commercial organi-
cations and individuals were often led
to telegraph requests to senators at
the instigation Of some persons with
. selfish motive.
No Hint Of Corruption.
Senator Burton read statement in
which he said:
I'm more than twenty years mem-
outsider either from Washington or
elsewhere. has ever made any propo-
sition or suggestion to me which
smacked in the least degree Of COR
ruption. Representatives Of organized
labor have been most insistent In their
demands. but, as think, with no In
tention of using improper methods.
"The two matters which have SEEM
ed to me to require the most careful
scrutiny have been the controversy in;
regard the isthmian canal route, that
is. the choice between Panama and
Nicaragua; and legislation for grants
Of water power"
Could Not Recall.
Senator Chamberlain of Oregon de-
clared II was impossible to recall the
names Of all tariff callers, because he
often listened to arguments without
knowing the names Of the speakers.
Those interested in the wool schedule.
particularly. had visited him, he yaid.
He recalled in this connection the
names Of F.. e. Kipp. mohair manu-
facturer. and q Mr.. Mccarthy. prob
ably Of Texas" who wanted protection
for angora goats. Others who called;
upon him. he said. We're g. W., Nc,
Clure, secretary Of the National Wool
Growers' association, and representa-
tives OF the jute bag and the hop in
dustries.
Printed slips In favor Of free sugar,
had been sent him by consumers, Sem
ator Chamberlain said, and like slips
In regard to insurance policies.
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