Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1913-04-07

curse tn" document itself goes III evil
dcncc. Are you familiar enough with
such matters to know that license, J
a stamp paid FOR the year, is not cam
Cclled even if the man goes out of
husiness2 n. | do not understand .
that il was cancelled
q. Remains on the record? \.
Yes, sir.
Q. Sc that when Won speak of look
ing up the record. on March 18th, You
would not want to have the Conven-
ton infer from the evidence which
you haze there that your experience
ir the matter would lead YOU to be-
lieve that necessarily all those people
were in business March 18th? A. No
sir. some of them might be in Jail
Q. Certainly, and might have left
the State? \. Yes.
@. And you have examined cases
50 that you know that this is some
times the case--M Nh. owen in looking
up these records. you Looked Zip the
records of other counties? A. Yes
sir.
Q. And the March issue of the
Civic League Record. published the
list for some SIX or seven counties of
the publication of that paper The
Civic League Record? y, am not
the editor.
Q. Are You sufficiently connected
| with it To know that tht>;list which the
March issue of the Civic League
Record contains was Il correct list?
! \. Yes sir. it didn't contain all the
counties.
~
toned there had the list as you made
! it up? The list is to be eolin4rued
next month.
q. Yes. | know that, | think it en-
traces SEINE six or seven counties,
de. sn't IT, \. Yes, sir. | think SO.
g. Now Mr.. owen. are YOU familiar
| enough with conditions in Cumber
land so that you could say what
places among those that you have
read from Your list are engaged iii
the liquor business, or aren't You? A.
| No. sir.
g. You have not made any exam
| nation? A. No, sir.
O. You are familiar enough with
| such conditions think YOU have an
| swered the question generally=-so tina t
you viii not desire the Convention to
infer that a list of people in any coln-
ty having paid the United States Tax
would Indicate to You that they were
now in the liquor business? \. Not
| necessarily.
@. In fact in making Your lists
from the records. which were pub
lished i'll the March issue. you pub
lshed the list for kennebee county .
\. Yes, sir
O. And are you familiar enough with
conditions in kennebee to know that that
list contained Il considerable number OF
| names of men who are not now IN the
liquor business? y. l couldn't say
c. You don't know anything about il.
| y. No, sir.
c. You have read the list \. Yes
g. But yot, have net sufficient famil-
| arity with the actual conditions here l.
| know whether the list included not
men who are out of business? \.
have no doubt there are men published
in that list who are not now in the IL
quor business in kennebec county.
c. Living in kenncbee. you know con.
ditions here i'll general way, better
than you would in Cumberland of course:
y. Yes.
q. DO you remember how many liquor
taxes were paid in Kennebec county :.
(Objection)
The SPEAKER 1t seems to us imma-
teral, the licensing in other counties.
Mr. PATTANGALL: Simply, If you
please, Mr. Speaker. as bearing upon the
proposition of whether "a list made such
as this would have any eVidcntial value
as to the present condition.
The E'R 10 NOT offered
sarily for that purpose, as l understand
Mr.. PATTANGALL: l don't grasp just
the purpose for which it is offered. |
Attorney General WILSON: We don't
offer it for the purpose of showing that
they are now i'll the business.
Mr.. PATTANGALL: For what pur-
pose. if you please?
Attorney General WILSON: l think VIC
will state simply for the purpose OF
| showing the sources of information that
were open to the sheriff from Which he
| might obtain evidence as to conditions
for whatever it might be worth: not that
it was an absolutely reliable source.
Mr.. PATTANGALL: OF course my
purpose in the inquiry | had in mind
was to show the entire worthlessness OF
/ SUCH Il IiSI us 10 cOllultlOils HOW eAiSttIits
| Attorney General WILSON: We don't
| claim that.
| The SPEAKER: That can be shown,
| of course, but is the question now under
! consideration adapted for that purpose
leSitimately, legally?
| Mr.. PATTANGALL: My point was
| this, Mr. Speaker. Mr.. Owen las said
| he does not know enough about condi-
tions in Cumberland SO as to state even
| in an indefinite way whether that list
| fairly represents present conditions III
| Cumberland or not Now he has got a
| similar list for Kennebee, the county
| with which he is more familiar, and |
| desire TO show by him that his list in
| kennebec county would be, t presented
| to convention as even Indicating con-
| ditions in Kennebec-would be an utter
| Misrepresentation.
The SPEAKER: of course any evil
dence bearing upon the list in Cumbcr-
| land county to minimize the force of any
testimony, or clear up any possible con-
illusions from that testimony. is perfect
ly proper in evidence to conditions The
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