Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-08-17
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BY LOBBY PROBERS
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only three. He said he had never seen
Charles E. Tribby and that he had
not contributed. II Horning collected
money from any one else. Burnstine said.
he had no knowledge Of It.
He said he knew Isaac McMichael,
the former head page Of tho House. who
has been testifying against Repressnta-
him about one year. and had loaned
him money He said he also knew
Representative McDermott and had
known him for year. His hrst ac-
tive. he said, began when McDermots
drifted into his shop and asked to have
| q check cashed. This slight transaction
| was the occasion for a long set OF quss-
| know why a representative should 90
to a pawn shop where he had never Deem
| before to have check cashed.
Merely ali Accommodation.
"You sometimes cashed his checks be-
fore they were due?'' he suggested
"They were not that kind Of checks.
| "Then 1t was simply an accommoda-
tion?'
YES"
Did he ever borrow any money from
your"
No"
! did you ever have any conversation
with him about legislation
"Only casually"
Representative F1nis Garrett, chairman
of the committee. asked:
when was Henry E Dav1s nfse eAs
ployed by yOu?"
"When the bill passed the House and
| Senate and was waiting In tho Mn.t !.
House to be signed by President IelL
ne was not employed 10 40 any Ou'a-
ness aNo with tho House or senA'e'
"How much was Mr.. Davis paid9
Mr.. Burnstine did not know.
"Who would known" asked the onair-
"Mr. Davis would know"
who else
II don't know.
WHO went to sec Mr.. Davis
"All three OF US.
Whom did you employ to 20 oeho1o
the committee. of CongressF
| "Mr. Tucker.
No Agreement AZ to Fec.
Did you have any agreement with
him as to the feeT'
| mo, sir. no agreement"
| What was said to him a. TO COM
| pensationT
Nothing at all; we knew him to be
competent"
The same with Mr.. DavisT
/ YES. sir; we knew him to DO cap
able"
1 away his ability.
Naturally. we supposed his charges
would be reasonable"
who paid him?" pursued Mr. Gar
| rett
| I'VE all paid him"
Mr. Garrett asked the witness to tell
what sum he paid, but Mr.. Burnstane
| said he did not recall 1t.
DO you swear you do not know wnat
| Mr.. Davis got?"
| Il do not recall II, because thofe was
no agreement
Did you ever learn
| mo" :.
"Oh. now" said Mr.. Garrett, don't
you know what he was paidT
Really, / do not know. l did not get
any data or detail You see; gave {hsa
went toward paying Mr.. Davis and other
Did all Of you pay in equal proper
mo; paid 20 per cent, Heidenheimer
paid 40 per cent and Horning paid 40
"pi .I, you y pay by checker
| Practically the same sort Of questions
| and answers were given sconcerfNng the
employment Of Mr.. Tucker. The witness
/ PDASe
counsel in that case either.
Representative Ferris asked him II he
| had talked with any OF his friends con-
had been subpoenaed Friday afternoon
| at o'clock.
mo one" he replied.
| mot with George Horning7"
"Oh. we were all here last night" said
| Mr.. Burnstine.
Told Nobody.
Have you told any one to what you
were going to swear?'
mot a SOUL
LAS q matter Of fact" continued Mr..
Ferris, were not pawnbi okers all over
| the country contributing to this fund"
| 81 would swear to 1t that they were
not"
| Mr.. Burnstine was questioned closely
| as to his statement that the three pawn
| brokers mentioned were the only men
| contributing to the fund to defeat the
bill He said the other brokers had been
/ solicited but that they were obdurate
| in their refusal to part with any money
He gave the reply of one OF them:
| "'Go spend your money and II you
succeed then 1 will still be doing busi-
ness -.
He continued: Il knew it wasn't q BIZ
1 Of use trying to get money from them
l knew them we'll"
| He was asked If the three men named
were trying to defeat legislation with
| the fund of $500. His reply brought a
| laugh:
I'VE were not trying to defeat legisla-
| ton" he said. because you cannot de-
/ feat legislation with only So. 800"
Then you think you could defeat leg1s-
| lation with more than that?" asked a
member of the committee.
! Possibly with $4,000 or $4,000 we
| could defeat it." he said with smile.
REPRESENTATIVE Cline. wanted to know
| more about the time that Representative
| McDermott had asked him to cash
check. and asked II Mr.. McDermott nae
ever talked over legislative matters with