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II had conversation with oui,,o n
.h'hk he wanted to engage my brother.
ana what were the terms you stated o.
u can't recall the terms"
What did you talk about
Ihere was some talk Of giving $4,000
to somebody"
"hat was the talk You heard II,
"hat ava you or your brother or Ounlar
say as 10 how much YOU must he m Id
I" tne word solid were to he taken M,
or the specifications" ""'
nnat conversation was in Syracuse "
We'll what was u?"
didnt talk with Quinlan about the
$4,000 here" "'o"' '"e
Didn't you tell him tina, he must agree
~ suoscriDe $4,000 TO the Democrat liz
state committee and to give Won no,
cent ON all sales Of asphalt to the STATE
or to contractors"
dont recall that ! said that to him "
a., D,u you say that TO Condit:' asked
Mr. whitman. referring to Fillmore con.
u'. 'he New York representative of tho
mon oiI Company of California.
lhere was some talk with him,
what terms did YOU lay before him >"
u didn't have any talk with him in mi.
county" WIN '''' '" '''s
Talked over Telephone.
Did YOU talk over the telephone to hin,
while he was here
II may have
What was IL 49,
He wanted to sell oil To contractor,
anu az that time his oil did not conform
to specifications '"
'hen why should he try TO make terms
with YOU" 'e' "'>
lie wanted to sell more oil ami uc
"anted more commissions
what were the terms"
TIC was 10 make u contribution of
*'.ooo mot to me. Mr.. WhtmanD. n.
was 10 make $1,000 contribution to the
Democratic State committee and NV
recollection is. pay us II can't recal, m,
amounp commission on sales. II NAV
nave been half a cent q gallon
you know Mr.. Condit has filed an
amdavit with the District Attorney 8
ofice:" "e'
Yes. i've heard he has
Didn't YOU tell him his company
wouldn't sell oil unles he gave tn. s5, ooo
and your commissions"
NO
why should they contribute
Wen. thought II they gave $1,000
could negotiate with the state OF New
YORK and get their product sold
We're YOU talking on the telephone 80
Il don't recall whether mr. my bro,h.,
talked with Condj, or vhe,hor ha 81,
me"
us it true that YOU spoke to so many
dealers that YOU cant recall whc,h.,
II was YOU or your BROTHER
There weren't so many Of them
We'll. how many
..c.
N""'"'' '"m m'sssons.'
There might have been the United
States Asphalt Company, III. Warner.
Qunlan Company and others don't re.
call"
And YOU offered them all the sam.
terms
The 5000 was 20 he charged agains,
our commissions
Then In the end the State was to pay.
bids 10 cover your commissions. !"
suppose they would.
Diuh YOU tel MN So
NO
Dioh you say that IN the end the
STATE would be paying the contribution:
No
Ihen why this arrangement or terms
rhere was possibility that II they
"aue the contribution ana pa'd us our
commissions ana the contribution was
charged against the commissions ] could
get 'h-m safes ' was acting alone. '
was "o' Wy INK 10 'kr. 'ne co'.i lput'oh
ior mNsfh' go, ho'h'nE from the war
n"r-t9uinlan people SOLO none OF thelt
goods. don't recall i' Condit refused
The OFFER but gave mp the scheme IL
was never carried ou'
DO YOU know II is crime to so
irit political contribution from cor
roration"
"rhe contribution was 10 he charged
against the comm sslon
40 Won know /; was u crime
NO, | didn't know II was crime
to get the contribution charged against
my commission
Did the United States Asphalt Com