Evening journal., 1913-10-16


TO the station between twelve and
twelvc-thirty. aud was informed 10
come TO the station. ef
Officers Serson and McGillon were
at the station house when he rot
| there. The chief came in about that
/ time, and wanted to know what the
trouble was. He was told at Fourth
and Shipley streets. He had beard
some one give orders for the officers
TO 90 after guns. and he believed the
chief was the one who gave the ord
ers. although ne did not know for
sure.
Mr.. Hastings closely questioned him
on chat point remarking that all the
, officers who were there at that time
had stated that "some one" had given
the orders without saying who that
some one" was. but the officer could
not remember just who gave the
order as he was excited at the time.
He went with Serson aud McGillon
( after guns, and could not remember
whether the chief was at the station
house when he returned or not A
man named Harry Hammer went with
them after the guns.
lie went TO Fourth aud Shipley with
Sersou, and the chief had gone before
them. He went into the Fell Building
but the shooting had all stopped when
ne got there. II didn't hear any
shooting, he said lie said the acct
dental shooting had happened before
he 20. there.
In reply to Mr.. Bowers. the witness
stated that the remark about getting
euus was IN the nature Of talk" and
not positive order.
He returned from the hunt for guns
TO the station house with SerSou but
did not see the chief OF Wardle when
he got there. The witness said there
was much talking aud confusion al
the time of the order to get the guns
He had seen the chief and Sergeant
Schell downstairs In the captains Of.
flee. This concluded the list OF Off.
, GERS who participated in the battle
with the exception OF Officer i-ing
who is III.
Sergeant David wardle was then
recalled TO the stand
He was asked il he had seen Ser
! son, McGillon and Maioney, and stated
that he thought he had seen McGillor
b, and Maloney, but did not remember
Serson.
lie had heard no one give rders te
get guns, but believed he did hear
a Maloney make a remark about getting
guns. He knew of no one giving or
y ders to either OF the men to get guns
q but knew that the men had gone af
y ter guns. He was in the Baxter Build
ing when he heard that the men hat
z gone after the guns. He again denie,
d seeing Serson at the station hpuso
n and did not recollect seeing him un
= til after Virgins was brought out o
o the building. He did not rememhe
seeing Harry Hammer at the station
i house.
n Mr.. Hastings then referred TO tn
Il testimony brought out at the coroner
e inquest, to the effect that he, tn,
h sergeant. had gone to interview Mr..
n Jack and wanted to know why he ha
+ gone there. The sergeant stated h
o went to find out who had given IN
Z interview TO the Star. He aGmitte
o be mad gone With Chief Black
d knowledge and consent, aud stated IA
J. did not know whether or not il wa
], the day after the commissioners ha
decided TO bold an investigation. RI
lt deuied going there for the purpose B
% influencing the witness should She b
Ie called To testify.
,r The sergeant then volunteered th
p Information that the real reason. n
went there Was because they though
OF taking action against the Stsr 10
St publishing the article and wanted 4
ltl cel az The real author Of the taie.