New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-10-08
DISAGREE ON
COST PER TRAIN MILE
Railroad Arbitration Board
Hears Varying Figures from
Two Rival StatistIClanS.
MEN PREFER OLD BRAKES
Witness for Employees Denies
That Workers of More than
Forty Find Difficulty
in Getting Jobs.

The testimony OF John G. 'Waloer' as
sistant TO the third vice-president oI ''e
Baltimore g. Ohio Railroad, who mas peen
on the stand several days on behalf OF
the Eastern railroads at the arpi'ratioh
on the demands OF the trainmen ana CON
ductors In the Manhattan Hotel enoed
during the morning session yesterday
Witnesses were then called on behalf OF
the trainmen and conductors In reouttaI.
Mr.. Waller submitted more tables yes
terday. in one Of which he gave the rela-
tive cost a train mile on the Eastern
Western and Southern railroads, as ioi-
lows. based on the number OF trainmen
and conductors employed and their
wages:
Conductors in the East $50, West. o.io;
South. 52 All other trainmen In the
East. Ills; West, 9.92 South. IA.
When Mr.. Walber left the stand. FRANK
Werne. a statistical expert was called
by the representatives OF the trainmen
and conductors in rebuttal OF part OF the
testimony of the employers witness. lie
gave tables 10 show that the general az
gregates submitted by the preceding WIZ
ness we're too general. and that condi-
tions which were not accounted for "oIid
he required to get at the exact facts Fig
ures which he handed In as e1hiolts
showed that the cost was greater IN pro-
norton TO the amount of trafi1c IN the
West and South than in the East.
Two witnesses employed on the Penn
svlvania lines east testified that the Work
he IL brakes than with
the hand brakes used some time ago
They also said the Pennsylvania men Ill
divisions where the wages were hisheI
than the wages demanded would stahu
out for Article of the demands "nich
nrovides that in such cases the wages
shall rot be reduced.
II also came out in their testimony mat
tne PENNSYLVANIA trainmen and conductors
did not Join In the demand FOR hisher
wages throughout the East In 1917 De-
canso the wages demanded were too 10"
for them.
The first Of these two witnesses was
John McMullen a brakeman employed on
the PENNSYLVANIA lines east at Shamohln.
Michael Sammon. the other empIoye Oh
the PENNSYLVANIA lines east VINO was put
y, the stand was a yard conductor AZ
the Pennsylvania passenger yards In fh''-
adelphia. The witness said there were
erst second and third class yards. lie
nut the yard at Philadelphia, where ne
was working. in the first class
In reply TO a question he said / VIII
give a .paraphernalia' Of the duties OF the
brakemen."
He then defined the duties OF the brake
men.
Before the two Pennsylvania RaiIroau
eunloyes testified +. l.. Howard CON
duotor on the Chicago. Indiana q Sou'h-
ern Railroad. was put on the staho Oh
behalf OF the trainmen and conductors
He said he had worked in chicago 81
Louis and other places and his expert
ence was that the work was harder III
the East than In the West
The witness was then taken IN mana oy
Mr. Atterbury. The trainmen ana con-
duc,ors have been contending that after
y man reaches forty he cannot get )oo
on the railroads as conductor or tram
man