Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-03-17

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speak lightly about 1t. He said that they
did not anticipate any trouble. The
questions which Senator Jones had put
10 Capt. Sullivan about any conversation
between Maj. Sylvester and his captains
in regard to>Miss Alice fstsl.were put to
Capt. Hollinberger also. The witness 70
piled that he had not heard Maj. Sylves-
ter or any of the other captains speak
slightingly of Miss Paul. He safd that
magazine article about Miss Paul and her
arrests in England a suffragette had
been passed around at one of their meet
ings. but that nothing had been said in
regard to the possibility of Miss Paul
adopting militant -actics here.
Says Nen Did Duty.
Capt Hoilinberger was asked what he
had done to protect the paraders He
said he was out on the Avenue at lbs
O'clock and that he had directed his men
to do the best they could to get every
body back of the ropes. He testified that
all of his men had done their duty, and
that he had beer in position to watch
them. He said that when the parade was
coming down the Avenue there appeared
to be a solid mass of people in the Ave.
nue. Senator Jones asked him when he
had concluded that the Avenue could
not be cleared
Some time about ; o'clock. was the
reply AT no time did / have the crowd
under control" Capt. Holllnberger said
that he thought the mounted policemen
and automobiles coming at the head of
the parade would clear the Avenue, and
that then he and his men would be able
to hold the crowd back. But this was a
mistake he said. He testified that he
had not been able to line his men UP
along the car tracks to keep the people
back. but that his men had been COM
PEELED TO work sometimes in twos or
threes pushing people back
Capt. Hollnberger said that when the
parade came along il had about thirty
feet in which to nlaF4h He admitted
that the crowd was right up TO the pa
raiders.
What was your idea of the crowd and
it's character" the witness was asked.
1T was a good-natured crowd. | heard
nothing in the world said disrespectful
TO the paraders. nor did | see any act of
disrespect or have any called to my at
tention by the paraderS. i saw many
women with children in their arms.
Probably 90 per cent of the crowd were
women.
Capt. HoIlinberger said that had the
Avenue been closed to traffic of all kinds
at noon the police could have handled
the crowd. The main difficulty arose, he
said, from the fact that the street cars
were kept running up to 3 o'clock, dump
ing the people into the streets.
AT no time did / or any of the other
captains have the crowd under control.
Senator Jones referred to the fact that
the manner III WHICH the SpdTdu6 was
handled on the 4th of March had been
used as an argument that the police were
incompetent March 8. Capt. Hollinberger
said that March 4 the police had had
control of the Avenue practically all day,
that his men were out at SIS O'Clock in
the morning and that the Avenue had
been cleared of all pedestrians and
vehicles. He said that he had handled
many crowds in Washington, and this
was the first time he had ever seen one
! beyond control In reply to question.
he said that it was the fault Of individual
policemen if any of Maj Sylvester's
orders were not obeyed.
Police Made Eight Arrests.
Eight arrests were made by men for
disorderly conduct and interfering with
paraders," said Capt. Hollinberger. lone
of the men was arrested for pulling
flag off one of the floats. He was fined
$40 in the Police Court. And one OF the
others was arrested for cursing and howl
ing at the paraders.
The next witness was Capt. Robert E.
Doyle He testified that he had been
TWENTY-FIVE years in the service and seven
years a captain. His station was from
9Th street to 10th street and he had two
sergeants. thirty regulars and forty spe-
cial policemen. He said that this per-
mitted him to place his regular men
cial policeman between two regulars.
Capt. Doyle testified that Maj. Sylvester.
coming along in an automoplle apout
2:3O O'Clock, had directed him to clear
the Avenue at 3 o'clock.
He said that his Interpretation OF
his orders had been that he was to
have the Avenue cleared by 3 o'clock.
and that he had begun trying to clear
the Avenue immediately To a ques-
had been negligent IN trying TO pro-.
tect the women he replied, mo, most
of my men are ladies' men. like my
self" This brought a general laugh.
To questions put by Senator Jones
regarding Miss Paul and the incident
of the magazine story, which occurred
at a meeting of Sylvester and his.
captains, Capt. Doyle made replies SIM
liar to those of Capt. Sullivan and Capt,
Hollinberger.
IL never heard Maj. Sylvester rfdt-
cule any women" he said.
Capt. Doyle admitted that conditions
during the parade had been deplora-
BILE.
my men did their duty, but it was
a physical impossibility to put the
crowd back. Women and children.
were fainting and screaming. When
i saw the crowd getting away from
us / took squad first to 9TH street
and attempted to put the people Dack.
When we cleared a space about forty
feet square and moved on, the people
hooded right DaCh again.
Capt Doyle said that when the parade
approached he drew his baton and kept
1t drawn during the rest o. the afternoon.
He started down the car track appealing
to men in the crowd to act like men and
give the women a chance. He said in
reply to questions that on number of Oc-
casions he saw some of his men who were
apparently not doing their duty and who
were standing still. But he declared that
they We're worn out and physically unable
TO move and that there was nothing to
indicate that they did not want to do
their duty.
A Task for All Day.
The witness said that to clear the Ave-
nue. properly would have taken all day.
He said that II Congress had given the
authority this would have been done.
Senator Jones asked IL in Capt. Boyle's
opinion Maj Sylvester could have done
anything more to protect the parade
If j had had some mounted men, as
1 did on Inauguration day. / could have
had better conditions, but could not have
entirely cleared the Avenue" Capt Doyle
replied. Il do not believe that Maj. Syl-
vester could have done anything more
than he did. II had had five times the
number Of footmen l did have we could
not have cleared the street"
Capt Doyle said that on inauguration
day he had three sergeants, thirty three
regular policemen, forty special police
men and eight mounted policemen.
As to the character Of the crowd at the
suffrage parade, Capt. Doyle said: 1T
that ts saying a good deal. for / have
bean on duty at the ball mark and yo,,