Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-07-22


cussed at just such q meeting. Wat
son. he swore. was then q member Of
the House.
Watsons term in Congress expired
The committee did not question Null
hall about this apparent discrepancy.
Senators Make Denial.
Senators Nelson and Clapp of Minne-
sofa took the stand last night and testi-
fed that Mulhall had been entirely In
correct in his statements regarding them.
They declared they had no recollection
OF ever having seen Mulhall previous to
the lobby investigation. Senator Nelson
swore that he had never given Mulhall
any information in regard to the action
of the Senate judiciary committee to-
ward proposed amendments to the Sher-
man antitrust law.
Previously letters were read into the
record in which Mulhall told of conversa-
tons with Senator Nelson in relation to
the rejection of an amendment to the
Sherman antitrust law early in 1909.
Mulhall swore on direct examination that
Senator Nelson had suggested that the
n. A. NJ. send copy of the sub-com-
mittees report on the proposed amend
ment to President Roosevelt.
In one letter Mulhall spoke of having
been introduced to Senator Clapp by
Senator Nelson.
Questioned Closely.
Questioned closely by Senator Cum
minis, Mulhall first swore he had been
told by Mr.. Nelson what had occurred in
the committee, even to how its members
voted on the proposed amendment: pur-
sued further, he agreed that possibly he
had not received such information. and
then switched again and declared that If
he had reported that he had received
such information it must have been cor
rect.
II have no recollection of seeing Mr..
MulhaH, or talking to him about this
bill, and I certainly would not have
talked to him about what transpired be-
fore the judiciary committee" said Sena-
tor Nelson.
1T is possible that he may have step
ped inside my Office and gotten them
from my clerk. Mr.. Hicks. my clerk.
who was with me then and with me now,
says that he cannot recollect ever having
seen Mulhall in our room. So far as the
report is concerned, you all know that
Mr.. Mulhall could get these reports from
the document room. ! have no recollec-
ton of ever meeting Mr.. Mulhall. or
talking to him on these subjects or any
thing else.
Ever since Mr.. Mulhall appeared here
before the committee ] have been rack
ing my brain to think or recall If ! ever
saw him or had a talk with him. There
is a possibility that 1 may be mistaken.
l understand that Mr.. Mulhall had a
mustache then, and perhaps that may
account for the fact that l do not recog-
nize him now
Cannot Recall Mulhall.
Il have not the slightest recollection of
ever seeing Mulhall and certainly I have
no recollection that Senator Nelson intro
duced me to him in his room,' swore
Senator Clapp. 1T is very clear in my
mind that if 1 had I would have recol-
Iected it,
The Nelson matter came up when Sena-
tor Reed introduced a letter dated jan
uary %, 1909. from Mulhall to Schwadt-
man. Il sent in my card to Senator
Knute Nelson of Minnesota. who made
the adverse report, as cha man. to the
Senate upon the amendment o. the Sher-
man law" read the letter. THE senator
came out and took me to his room and
gave me a complete statement Of what
took place in the judiciary committee be-
fore they made their adverse report"
Requests Reading Of Letters.
Senator Nelson was not i'm the room at
the time, and Senator Cummins declared
that he had been requested to ask that
al letters bringing in Mr.. Nelson's name
be read at once. Two others were put
in the Record one referring to the same
bill, the other to an anti-injunction bill
which did not figure in the later testi-
mony.
Upon examination Mulhall said he be-
came acquainted with Senator Nelson at
the time he wrote the first letter Il was
sent there by Mr.. Emery, the chief lobby
list for the association he said
Senator Nelson's report on this bill
was made three days before your call:
you do not mean to say that you influ-
enced him." asked Senator Cummins.
NO, sir; not at all