New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-10-08


der will be in any way regarded.
"Fourth-That the Republican organza-
ton. as such. will do nothing. II will give
no advice or order. II will leave every
member TO act upon his own judgment.
The chairman says distinctly that he will
not permit anybody, high or low, to speak
TO him on the subject
Previous TO this incident. Ryan testified,
he had suggested 10 Sulzer in the course
OF their talk I'm the morning OF that day
that the Governor ought 10 answer the
charges made against him. He said that
Suffers response was that he did not
answer 10 the charges because he did not
want to drag In the name of his wife"
Sulzer told him, however, Ryan said. that
IL the court voted the impeachment illegal
he would then make a statement answer
Ing the charges
Delaney NicolI for Go. Between.
The authorship OF the memorandum
read into the case as a copy of one de-
livered TO Sulzer by Ryan was carefully
ignored. except that il was established
that Sulzer did not know and was not
told by Ryan who had issued the opin-
ions.
Ryan said that he suggested TO Sulxer
that he should resign and then make his
statement. but the suggestion did not
appeal to the Governor. Q
The witness did not disclose the entire
conversation as TO Suffers request to
have him see Delaney Nicoll and get
him 10 see Murphy to "call off the in
quiry" without being pursued to the last
corner, and even then he disclosed 1t bit
by bit.
His final answer describing exactly
what Sulzer asked him to say to De-
Lancey Nicoll. and the subsequent ques-
lions by Mr.. Stanchfeld and answers by
which it was established that Sulzer had
said he would do whatever was right"
proceeded as follows:
Ale wanted me to have Mr.. Nicoll
persuade Mr.. Murphy TO endeavor to cali
OF this inquiry by getting his following
to vote that the court had no right, the
Assembly had no right to vote his i'm
parchment
Q.-There was more than that said in
the conversation, was there not?'
The president: II you recall anything
say so: and II YOU cannot recall any
thing. say so.
Ryan: lie said Mr.. Nicoll could DC the
go-between
Q.--Yes, won't you go right along and
finish that conversation? A.-That he was
willing TO do whatever was right.
Q.-That who was willing to do what
ever was right? A.-Mr. Sulzer.
Said He Had Ten Democrats.
Q.--What further was said I'm that con-
versation upon the subject Of what was
doing right? Al don't recall any
thing further.
Q-Do you recall anything that was
said besides what yen nave already testi-
fed to? Ale said he had ten Demo
cratic votes.
Q.--Do you mean that Governor Sulzer
said he had ten Democratic votes? A.
Yes. sir.
Q.--Now, did he tell you in that talk
upon what proposition he had those votes?
A.-No. sir
Q.-Wnat did he tell you. II anything,
to say to Mr.. Nicoll that would be done
IL Mr.. Murphy would get the Democratic
members to vote on this question as he
wanted? Al answered that question.
Dwell. what was 1t. in substance?
Just again. please, II you have already?
A.-That he would do whatever was right.
Odd nc specify in any particular
what he would do as being right, as you
call it? A.-No, sir.
Q.-Is there anything more to that con-
versation that you now recall? Are
garding Mr.. Nicoll?
Q-Yes. A.--No, sir.
Odd you rs matter OF fact Mr.
Ryan. see Mr.. Delaney Nicoll? A.
No. sir.
Odd you have any communication
with him upon the subject? A No, sir
Q.-As n matter of fact, did you see
Senator Root? Ana SIR