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I asked a great many questions about it.
said: We want to be sure that We are
right here and proceed with great eau
tion.' Then he said that they were doing
other things that they should not do.
He said: They have the names of ssome
OF the judges in the courts in Washing
ton advertised as directors and officials"
and he says: They are paying one Of
these judges 5000 a year for the use of
his name
Two Judges Named.
(Which judge?" asked Mr.. Douglas.
Judge Ashley NJ. Could
HE named Judge Gould?''
HE named Judge Could" said Repre-
sentative Henry, land I think he said
there was one other judge who was draw
ing salary. and mentioned that some
former official had been made president
were sending out their literature over the
country and inducing people to take stock
in one of the companies. and
to take policies in the other, on the faith
that these men Of standing were officials
in the company. 1 said That looks like
there might be something in this case to
warrant an investigation, but L want you
to think it over little more and then
Mr. Mr.; Johnson Johnson believe wanted ted, to
hearing, and / said Just as soon as
l can have the rules committee assemble.
And the next conference We had was in
the committee room of the committee on
rules up in the old Library space in the
Capitol, and Mr. johnson was there and
Mr.. Redtield was; am not sure whether
Mr.. George was at this next conference
or not.
Believed Inquiry Justifiable.
''Mr. Redfeld stated the case, and Mr.
Johnson did not have much to say shout
1t. So the same ground was gone over
and the same statements We're made, and
I was SO impressed with that side of
the controversy that it seemed to me
like there was something that ought to
be looked into, but still l was little
careful about it-did not want to hurry,
and We did not call the meeting of the
committee that day, but called it for the
following Monday. I think it was
know that Sunday INTERVIEWED be-
cause Mr. Carusi and ex-senator
Fred Dubois asked me to talk with them
the next day, Sunday, in my committee
room, which I did, and 1 went up to the
committee room, think, about 10 O'clock
and We sat there and talked for three
hours about this matter, and these gen.
tlemen insisted that inasmuch as the
question had been mooted about the good
faith and good standing of these COM
panies. there was but one thing to do,
and that was to order an Investigations
Now, Mr., Henry, was Mr. Redfeld
specific in his statement of Justice Gould
as receiving 5000 year for the use Of
his name as director?" asked Mr.
Douglas.
well, Mr. Redfield said that Justice
Gould was receiving 5000 a year for
allowing his name as a Director
How many times did he say that?"
Mr.. Henry: well. he said it down in
the Speakers room and he said it in the
committee on rules-I mean, said it to
me. l do not know that he stated it to
the committee when the time came for
final action, I mean, because we had had
a tentative agreement that the investi-
cation should be ordered"
Not Sure of Exact Language.
Representative Redfield questioned Mr.
Henry at great length, asking him at one
time If Mr.. Henry was prepared to state
that he was quoting exact language Mr.
Henry replied in the negative.
Are you prepared to say that what
was said to you was not this: That We
are told that Judge Gould is drawing
salary of SO much or that our Informal
ton is that Judge Gould is drawing so
much''
my recollection is" said Mr.. Henry,
that you just stated as a matter OF
fact that Judge Gould waS-and you
showed me a paper with an ADVERTISE
ment showing that he was a director
said you understood there We're other
officials involved
Did I assert that was the case, or
did I say it was UNDERSTOOD"
well, you did not assert about the