Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-07-07
Lawyer Testifies Impers0na-
tons of congressman Were
Without His knowledge.
TELLS SENATE Committee
HE WAVES ALL IMMUNITY
Admits He Lied to Ledyard-Sena-
tor Cummins Finishes Bill to
Punish Impersonators.

With the renewal Of the congressional
inquiry into the lobby" today Edward
Lauterbach. New York lawyer and al
legged lobbyist for whom David Lamar
operated to obtain a position with GER
tain Wall street interests. was on hand
to take the stand for the second time.
Senator Cummins OF the committee An
ished his bill today, which would serve to
visit with prison sentence OF not more
than nve years or a fine OF 5000. or
both. any person who sought TO imper-
senate member of Congress or any
other public official. There is no Law, SO
far as has been discovered. that will per-
NIT of the prosecution Of David Lamar"
for his inpersonations OF congressman.
Representatives Of wooden and sugar in
terests a so were present when the COM
mittee met today. having been summoned
to tell Of their activity in connection with
attempted changes in tariff rates The
committee today subpoenaed I. a. Smith
of Tennille. Ga, president of the Georgia
division OF the Farmers Union. TO testify
as to that organizations efforts to al
feet duties on cotton goods or on sugar.
Lauterbach Is First Witness.
Lauterbach was the first witness.
Chairman Overman read to Lauterbach
the statement made last week by Lewis
Cass Ledyard. New York lawyer. This
statement reviewed a conference Febru-
ary 8, between Lauterbach and Ledyard.
The latter alleged that Lauterbach had
represented himself as coming under the
authority Of Senator Stone and Speaker
Clark to make proposals to the morgan
firm and the steel interest on benaii OF
the democratic leaders.
Mr. Lauterbach followed the Ledya
statement closely. reading II himselI from
the printed record a. chairman OVerman
read 1t aloud LedEard represented L@au-
terbach as having said that representa-
tive Henry was to be Attorney General;
that legislation could be controlled In
Congress by Speaker Clark and his
friends, and that the democrauc ieaoers
wanted the Morgan interests to agree TO
certain things in return for cessa ion
OF congressional activity against them.
Senator Stone last week entered q epe-
cific denial before the lobby committee
that he had ever had any dealings VIII
any way to represent himself, Speaker
Clark or any one else.
Before Chairman Overman could begin
the examination of Lauterbach Senator
Reed asked for an executive session oi
the. committee. and the members retired
ia an adjoining room for consultation.
Witness Valves All Immunity.
For thirty-hve minutes the committee
debated in secret as to whether Lauter-
bach's further testimony would give him
immunity from prosecution il it develop
ed that he and Lamar had been guilty OF
violating federal or New York statutes.
Members of the committee sent Tor
COPIES OF the statutes and considered the
case carefully. When they returned TO
the room Chairman Overman asked
Lauterbach If he came before the COM
mittee voluntarily at this tine.
He said he had. 80
You have never been subpoenaed.
mo, l appear voluntarily. " there Is
any question in your mind as to immuni-
IL, i waive II absolutely, said Mr.
Lauterbach-
Senator Over,nan then asked Lauter-
bach about 8 interview Witn LeayarG "A
the library of the latter's home In New
York.
tfyes for desiring to rehabilitate himself
in the good graces OF the Morgan m
terests in Wall street. He said until ne
had heard Representative Palmer testi-
fy he knew nothing Of the Lamar project
for impersonating congressman.
II had no knowledge OF that he said,
emphatically.
Never Knew Lamar to Do Wrong.
I.auterbach said he had felt that La
mar ..in some way was the cause of the
disaffection of large corporations to me.
He said he knew Lamar was impulsive
and hasty N his actions, but that he had
never known him to do anything wrong
When he first met Lamar. he said. the
latter represented the Sage and Gou.d
interests in Manhattan railroad affairs
He said Lamar had brought him
Large and honorable business and
had introduced him to Mr.. Rogers. for
whom he Hauterbach) later did many
important legal tasks.
II presume that II had dropped my
association with him all would haye
been WELL" said Lauterbach.
He denied he had talked with Led
yard of Lamar's being engaged In
"blackmailing" operations.
Iauterbach started to review Led
wards reports of the interviews be-
tween the two men February and ).
He said he had not told Ledyard Feb
ruary that he represented Speaker
Clark Senator Stone or any other DEM
ocratic leaders.
"Had you been in Washington before
YOU saw Ledyard?' asked Senator Reed.
Il had" said Lauterbach.
Said He Could Stop Investigation.
Questioned further. LauteIbaci admit
ted he had told Ledyard he had gone to
Washington had familiarized himself
with 1.-The situation and had become
convinced that the democratic leaders in
Congress and President Taft did not want
activity to 60 on against the Steel Cor
poration
He admitted further that he had told
Ledyard that he now felt confident he
could stop the investigation OF the Steel
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