Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-08-19

HOW long did You stay there!
Half an hour
ANY one there with your?
Mr.. Horning.'
did you see him today?'
Yes. in Mr.. Davis Office"
Representative Russell got back to the
employment Of Mr.. Davis.
1T was in 1872" was the question.
1T may have been"
You can be positive It was in 1913 or
in the last months OF 1927"
You are sure he was employed since
the first settlement mentioned in this
statement Of your-which Is dated Au-
gust. 1927"
Yes"
Heidenheimer told Mr.. Russell he did
not stay in Henry E. Davis ONCE long
enough this morning to find out anything
definite about the money paid TO him.
His Talk With schulteis.
'~what did Mr.. Schulteis say when he
called on your" asked Representative
Stafford.
He said he knew a lot Of congress
men and he could go and tell them the
bill was q little too drastic"
He said he could defeat the bill?"
where did the conversation take
placer"
HE came voluntarily?"
"Yes."
you did not send for him."
you sent him to Mr.. Horning."
YES"
"Why?"
Because Horning was handling the
How long have you known Mr.
Schulteis?"
II think he appeared for pawnbrokers
in 1881. when there was some bill in
Congress in which pawnbrokers were in
What did Horning tell you about
Schulteis' employment"
He said: He must have left the city,
He was not supposed to work on 1t reg
ularly.'
Says He Called Second Time.
Heidenheimer said Mr.. Schulteis called
on him a second time. saying he wanted
some money and that he had called on
some congressman.
Heidenheimer said he could not recall
the names OF any congressman Mr.. Schulz
tets had mentioned in this talk.
HOW much did you pay Schulteis?''
asked Representative Stafford.
Il didn't pay him anything"
Even though he called there and
asked you for money!
mo. I sent him to Horning"
How long did you confer with Hor-
"Half an hour"
Just called on him casually at
o'clock in the morning and took him
out of bed. Talked to him about gem
eral matters?
Heidenheimer did not give any sort Of
an account Of what was said at the early
morning conference. He said he was
fatigued and could not recollect.
You went there to get a little mental
out Of bed at o'clock in the morning."
Representative Stafford suggested.
Mr.. Stafford Sums Up Account.
Mr.. Stafford figured that the statement
rendered by Heidenheimer as Of before
August 30. 1912, shows s.. 8S7.36. Of which
$67.S6 only can be accounted for, and that
the $3.50 paid to C.. c. Tucker is not in
cluded in the $1.6S7.36
rs this man Schulteis, who called on
you. Mr.. Herman Schulteis. who is
counsel for the Antitrust League
here in Washington" asked Repre-
sentative Stafford.
II think So"
DO you know whether any OF the
funds contributed to defeat this loan
shark legislation were contributed to
any pOutlcal party.
II think Horning did make q contrt-
BUTTON" said Heidenheimer, but don't
know what money he gave"
ITO what party?"
Democratic"
You are positive he said to you he
He may have"
did he state that he had made con-
tributions to any other party?'
About week ago-maybe more than
that
Where were your
81 can't remember
WAS any one else present."
II believe he said last night he made
a contribution"
WAS it said to account for this s., 4OO?"
No answer.
HE didn't say how much?' asked Rep
resentative Willis.
1.-THE records of the campaign fund
would show was the reply.
He didn't say how muchT
II think he said $500"
Wants Positive Answer.
You state positively that Horning said
he paid $500 out of this fund to a politi-
cal party?"
''Yese think so.''
why did he pay $500 out OF the loan
shark bill fund to the democratic cam
paign fund? Did you think it legiti-
mater
81 considered. 1t legitimate"
''Why did he contribute to the cam
paign fund out of money you raised
to defeat the loan shark legislation
II don't know how to answer that?"
Heidenheimer said he may have con-
tributed this money ito get acquainted
with some democrats"
Chairman Garrett asked If the money
was contributed to the McDermOtt |
fund in Chicago. |
An Emphatic Negative.
Positively no."
Did you ask him?'
NO"
"Why?"
Il ina gined he sent 1t around to the
presidential campaign.
Didn't you say he had friends among |
democratic congressman!
was it s5oO?" asked Mr.. Garrett.
HE told me So"
Didn't he say 5000:
when did he contribute it?'
81 don't know"
"You said he told you q week ago and |
also last night. Is that right?"
well. it might have been at election
time
tributed more, but that $500 was given
out of the fund collected to defeat the
loan shark bill.
He said Horning had gone around