El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1913-05-29
PINCH0T TE5TIFIE5
IN ROOSEVELT CASE
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9l S9f So1rs Sc it's a delicate question
Answer yes or no
NO" blurted the witness
Wine Mt ROOseVelts Home
youne- Roosevelt was cross examined
did YOU ever use liquor In Col
ROOsevelt's home
Red wine2" -=-
yes. red wine. white wine, Russian
wine. champagne. SnerIy' "ll-SlNJ' III al
quite collection Of wines. eh2'
Yes. it was a regular gentleman
WHATS that?" .-
'T soy it was a regular gentleman's
cellar" -.
with Col Roosevelt where they haC
cocktails"
81 don't think So"
Attorney Andrews asked the witness
whether there had not been a meeLlu =
Of proposed witnesses in this case IN
Col ROOsevel's editorial ott1ce IN NeW
York and whether the cOIOnel DuLtsI
was not present The witness replied
he did not know who was present eN-
cept that he went expecting 70 give
This concluded his testimony.
Quaker is Not sworn
Edward Emerson, a writer and news
paper man, being QUAKER was not
would be truth under pains and pen
atty Of perjury"
Witness knew the plaintiff as assist
ant secretary OF me navy anu a. COLO
mel Cf the Rough Riders, Of which En-
ersOn was a member Witness became
field secretary to the plaintiff. with
whom he was in constant touch
time of day, in the fieId?' asked attor-
"six o'clock in the morning"
when did you Quit2"
"Oh. whenever anybody was played
out. S or 10 o'clock at night even tul 2
or in the morning.
Attorney BeIden asked only one ques-
ton on cross examination and the Wit
ness was dismissed. The court lhen
took q recess for noon
PinchOt Is a Witness.
Clifford PinChot, chief forester In the
Roosevelt administration, at the after
noon session, testified as TO the tenn
perate habits OF the plaintiff
The Witnes said he was educated In
New York and at Yale and abroad
and after taking his degree at New
Haven took UP scientific forestry as a
profession He first met the plalntrI
in washington when the latter was
connected with the civil service The
witness was appointed chief Of the di
vision OF forestry by president Mcktn-
ley and remained there until after Col
Roosevelt retired from the white
house. Since then Mr. PinchOt said he
had seen the colonel May times Cd
trips and at Oyster Bay
Have you observed COL Roosevelt
keenly2' inquired attorney Pound.
Yes. ! have and j would ike 70
give my reasons for So
we VIII come to that" said Pound
Observes Colonel Closely.
I'm ask you the question now, you
may tell your reasons.
Ny reason for observing him closely
was q deep interest in the subject OF
efficiency. If saw a man who was
H.T y {
efficient. I wanted 10 observe why, TO
learn why he was efficient observed
what ne ate, what he drank, how muc1
he slept, everything which might &C
count for unusual efficiency. So I
studied Col Roosevelt"
NOV from that observation, please
tell the jury whether he drank spirit
uous or malt liquors"
Occasionally a glass OF wine"
Gould the plaintiff in this case have
drunk TO excess, have been a heavy
drinker, without your knowing itg'
"NO2 he could not
Knows When Man Is Drunk.
you have seen drinking men-dO
you know when a man is drunk
Mr.. Pinchot returned a reply; 7 do.
before attorney Andrews could offer
objection. The matter was cleared up
by Andrews stating that the defence
would admit that the witness was con-
petent to tell a drunken man when ne
saw one.
of the plaintiff as to the use OF
liquors.
Always temperate"
you have dined at oyster Bay?'
when there were other guests and
you were the only oneE
was there wine when there were
Yes; sometimes white wine or may
be sherry. I think / have never seen
champa g1e on the table there
lever Used Profanity.
The witness said that he had seen
Mr.. Roosevelt drink one mint julep,
champagne a few times and light wine
a few times
Did you ever see him drink between
meals 2? asked the attorney for the
only that julep and perhaps once
or twice light wine"
Have you ever heard Col Roosevelt
indulge in profanity
Never came the vigorous reply.
J.. +. Abbott Testlfies.
Mr.. Pinchor was subjected to only q
brief cross examination He was fol-
Abbott son of DR.. Lyman Abbott, OF
New York The witness said he was
president Of company which published
a periodical OF which CJL Roosevelt IS
one OF the editors.
What can you say as to whether Mr..
Roosevelt =ndulged In liquor to excess p
he was asked
He did not In my trip with him Ia
Africa and Europe, dining with him and
riding on trains win MIN Tor three
months, I handled his money and he
drank scarcely anything. At dinners ne
drank only light WINE or a little cham
payne"
You have never seen him under the
influence Of nQuor2"
Never"
Mr. Abbotts direct examination
lasted abuOt 10 minutes. His cross ex-
animation was also brief.
You feel an interest in the outcome
Of this Case2'
YES; the same interest would have
for any intimate friend"
-"On yOuE trips with Mr.. Roosevelt
you 90 not say that he abstained en-
tirely from wine or champagneg'
NO, 1 said he abstained more than
any other man"
Objection Is Sustained.
On redirect examination Mr.. Abbott