The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1913-07-04
LAMAR PARADED
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LOBBY COMMITTEE
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twelve years. and In reply to a ques.
tion from Speaker Cummins. declared
thta he thought the officials Of the
league who are ut work In Washing
ton should be described as experts
rather than as lobbyr.,..
coming down to the pertinent ques-
tions before the committee. Mr.. Martin
declared that Lamar. whom he had
known for several years as a consistent
ahticorporation man, had made an
analysis OF the vicious features OF tho
railroad bill of 1911, which resulted
In them being stricken from the meas
ure. The committeeman looked up In
surprise. ana Senator OverInan remark
ed. with a smile at Cumming his Re
publican colleague
Senator Cummins also had n share
in that work"
And l am surprised TO learn at this
date, replied Mr.. Cumnins, sarcasti-
cally. that tho source of my informa-
ton was Mr.. Lamar"
Led forward to the inception of the
Steel Trust Investigation. Mr. Martin
said:
"As Mr. Lamar was acquainted with
the machinery by which tho law was
being violated. asked him for a draft
OF resolution for the investigation
OF the Steel Trust"
f18d you any arrangement with any
member OF Congress for the introduce
ton OF such resolution" was asked.
No Special Arrangement.
Martin replied that he had many
conferences with Congressman about
such an investigation and frequent con-
ferences with Lamar, but he could not
remember that he had any special ar
rangement for Its Introduction. Sena-
tors Cummins and Walsh pressed Mar
tin on tho point OF the delay in having
the resolution introduced after II had
been prepared.
You know tho resolution was taken
to those who had large interests in
steel and an attempt was made TO
effect a reconciliation with them" ask
Cd Nr. Cummns.
Martin said he knew nothing about
that.
Senator Walsh pressed on the hawk
Ing about OF tho resolution. and Mar
tin exclaimed. hotly: Il never heard
Of any such thing No one who knows
me would for an instant believe that
j had any relations with these men
whom l have been fighting and who
have been fighting me for thirty years"
Martin denied also that he had ever
speculated in stocks He admitted that
he handed the resolution finally to the
man who introduced it. who was stan
ley, OF Kentucky, and that there wore
only few verbal changes in il as 1:
was finally passed Mr.. Stanley was
not informed that Lamar had prepared
the resolution
With regard TO tho money trust in
vest'gation, Martin said ne conferred
frequently with Lamar while he was
trying 10 bring about such an investi-
cation, but. Sc far as ne knew, Lamar
did not draw that resolution. He de-
MED that he had ever known or
lamar's telephone operations until the
testimony came out yesterday and he
cd I
that he would want proof OF the
charges that have been made against
him.
You don't entertain any doubt that
Mr.. Lauterbach took the resolution 10
Mr.. Morgan. 90 you?" he was asked.
Mr.. Martin replied that he would
not advance any opinion upon that
He offered 10 produce before the COM
mittec matter relating TO other Hobbies
existing here in Washington. and when
invited TO proceed. he specified the
Pacific Railroad lobby, composed or
Judge Lovett and Paul D. Cravath.
who last week had lobbied fa- four
, hours in the office oE the Attorney
General OF tho United states. he said
They were men convicted OF
grave offense in the Federal courts
and they came here 10 try 10 influence
the Department OF Justice TO do things
greatly against the public interest
Wants Them TO Testify.
The reference was 10 the conference
with the Attorney G.t.eral over the
form OF the decree which is to be en-
tered by the Federal court dssolving
the Pacific railroads merger Mr.
Martin dcma pded that Lovett and era
Nath, as Wal as the Attorney General,
be called TO testify as to what went
on at that conference behind closed
doors.
Next. Mr.. Martin specified the armor
plate lobby. which, on the last day OF
the TAFT administration. tried TO get
the secretary OF the Navy TO sign
contract which was inimcal to the
public interests to the amount OF sew
cral millions"
Mr.. Martin gave names OF A c. Dick
oy. of the Carnegie Steel COMPANY;
rchibald Johnso or the Bethlehem
Company, and Mr. Petrie of the Mid
vale Company. He demanded that they
be summoned before the committee
The effort OF these men, Mr. Martin
declared. was TO get $50 u ton more
this year than they got last year for
armor and s2.7c0 more than the ar
NOR is really worth. Finally. there Is
the Navy League lobby. Mr.. Martin de-
clared. He said that Mr.. Morgan, Mr.
Satterlee and Colonel Thompson are
actively Mt work advocating the build
ing OF warships. which are built large
ly by the Steel Trust. in which All
three are interested.
But 1t may be that the Carnegie
Peace Founda ton has organized lobby