Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-08-21
Johnson ALLEGES
THREAT Of DEATH
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were the only members Of the committee
from the upper house. Representative
Johnson said the first real difference
dame when they struck the Senate
amendment taking the pawnbrokers out
of the BILL Mr.. Johnson and Mr.. Adair
were emphatically in favor Of the pawn
brokers' being included Senator Curtis
said he would not recede.
You Will have to take the RESPONSE
bility,' + said. to license extortion and
you will have to stand sponsor for the
extortion.' He took serious exception to
my plain remarks
This caused strained relations with
Senator Curtis, he said. and Senator
Senate committee subsequently dealt
with. There were other difficulties with
the Senate confereee. he said. and finally
the. House conferees won-with the
pawnbrokers in the bill and 1 per cent a
month as the highest rate Of interest
and others, I speak only from memory.
No one came to me about the bill before
it came out Of the committee, except
Mr Cullen.
When I got the pawnbroker amend
ment in the bill there was a rush to see
about it. Hornng and one other came
up. They said they could not live at 2
per cent or per cent 1 told them I
didn't care whether they succeeded In
their business or not. 1 was more con-
S~eS HSSkSsS
money.
johnson Remains Obdurate.
"Horning began to tell me how liberal
he was, that one-thifd OF HIS loans were
overdue. I told. him il one-third had to
let their property go it was but an addi-
tional argument that they (the loan men)
ought to be put out Of business. They
asked for hearings.
It told them the bill was out. of COM
mfttee and in the Rouse and not in place
fur q hearing. They tried to get hearings
for long time.
Some one Of them said they were to
get up q BRIEF A copy was brought to
me. I read It and remained OF my former
opinion.
finally Hornin1 came With Foster, the
man who wanted to be clerk to the conn
mittee. / was told he was tho representa-
tive OF q travelling man'a association.
They came 10 interest mo In the de-
feat Of the loan shark bill
1T dRWned on me that Foster wanted
the clerkship for a sinister purpose, and
I dismissed them both. started for the
House through the subway.
Foster followed me and caught me-
brought up the subject and I couldn't
I shouldn't have used and came near to
attacking him.
II saw him about a year later on a
street car. l said to him that when Z
last saw him should have talked to him
Tn a milder way.
"On that occasion / had spoken OF
giving you thrashing, and, could have
gotten rid of YOU in q milder fashion.
and would like to apol0gixe.'
MIR. johnson said he had seen Foster
but once or twice since.
Horning Ressnts Remark.
He said Horning had seen him at the
CAPITOL again.
''I said to him. I have discussed tti.
with you Jews all I'm goine to- He got
mad and said he was an nishman.
Then later q man named Ryan came
to argus with me that paWnshops are OF
benefit to labor men. and he said he rem
resented labor union. 1 argued with
him, and asked him why a laborinR mar
pawnshops are prosperous and had a lot
Of house painting to do.
Senator j. Ham Lewis came to me
and said he had letter from q pawn
broker In Chicago who has a brother
In WASHINGTON. d. c.. In ths same bust
ness. and they wanted to get q confer
ence with me- told Senator Lewis
| All right
"Burnstine came to see me. HI wa,
tina man Senator LaRas did not know
him personally.
Was Asked to Repeal the Law.
"Burnstine asked me to repeal the
law. I said would. He was gratified
and asked me what per cent would
fix-2 per cent or 3 per cent-and 1
said. Neither I would make it 6 per
cent q year. That discouraged him. and
he said he would pick up his belong
fngs and leave town. 1 told him the
sooner the better.
This morning a man named Starr
/ who said he runs a loan ONCE at Sen
street and Grant place. came to see me
land he asked me about repeating the
present law told him about the saute
thing az told Burnstine"
Chairman Garrett asked Mr. johnson
when the closet in the District of CO.
hlmbia committee room was broken
open.
MIR. Johnson said that developments arc
in progress concerning that matter and
that he believed it would be better &c
keep it TO himself for awhile.
Ever receive any threats or intima-
tions Of thre8tsy' asked 1er Garrett.