New-York tribune., 1913-11-28
Sees Sinister Motive in
Rubino Allegations; Says
Glynn Should Act.
HAS MORE EVIDENCE
AGAINST "BAGMEN"
Graft investigator Will Produce
Two Upstate Witnesses at
John Doe Hearing.

1ohn 4. HenneSsy. VINO was one OF
commissioner Carlisles chief aides in the
tIigbwav Department during Sulzer's ad-
.,,nietration. said he was surprised at
~, manner i'm which the charges against
rorlisle had been made public.
IN seems TO me-" said Hennessy, that
,.,ot the Governor of New York should
have done was TO send these charges TO
-. district Attorney of Albany County,
here the crime. if any. was committed,
and have him begin proceedings either
fore a grand jury or publicly TO show
what is in the case.
Then Mr. Rubino and those associated
nitb him would have to testify under
oath As ] see il now, Rubino cannot be
held for libel or for slander. The Gov
error Is the man who made these things
nrhiic and the Governor should now go
an the way. so that the public may learn
.,o,t,sIlv who the crooks are behind
Rubino.
oTbe n,erest examination by Rubino or
o cork in his Office would have shown
there was no such conference, would have
shown where ! was on July and .,
o.opld have shown where Carlisle was on
Iuly and o. and would have shown the
whole thing to be false. II the Bar AS
sociation thinks it worth while to In
yestigatc Rubino | shall be delighted TO
presept case against him
Uennessv said that he was in Coopers-
,oUn Julv T. and went the next morning
bv automobile to Wooster. a small town
six miles or so from Schoharie Tne
charges against Carlisle place him IN
coonerstown and Hennessy in Albany on
the dates mentioned.
As 10 James II. Mcclure, with whom
Bennessy is said in the charges, TO have
heen in Albany when the 'Coopersto"h
conference" was on. Hennessy said that
he has not talked to James *. Mcclure
since Carlisle has been commissioner.
81 never talked to him in my life cN-
rent at the state convention that nomi-
mated Van Wyck for Governor in 1898
Hennessy said. except that l met him
on the street in Albany in March or April
of this year. lie was with his brother,
George. and when George started 70 in
,roduce me TO Jim we both recalled that
We had met back in 1895 That was the
only time ] have talked to Jim Mcclure.
Hennessy said that he would have the
two witnesses he cOrralled up state down
here for the John Doe hearing or for the
grand jury Monday. one OF them. he
said. had been held up for $500 and then
solicited a second time in the same cam
paign 1912. with the word that his $500
was 81 GO short of being his proper per
centage Of assessment. as computed from
the amount of his road contract.
This mans payments. then due him
from the Highway Department. Hennessy
said. we're held up until after he had
paid I'm the additional $1,000 ana then his
money came along Immediately.
Hennessy refused TO give names. saying
that their publication might wreck the
case. because he feared that TammanE
would bring pressure to bear that might
Keep the prospective witnesses away from
The stand. but he said the "bagman' In
this instance was a Tammany man, with
strong upstate connections, and is now in
Europe
His second witness. Hennessy said.
would tell Of a small hold-up, for 500
and this victim, he said, had offered TO
tell him the story when he was invesu-
eating as a commissioner under the More
land act Hennessy then refused to listen
90 him. because he did not want to lec
the man gain immunity in case rrosecu-
ton should develop
w his speeches during the campaign ana
later on the witness stand Of the joan
Doe inquiry Hennessy described Siml-
lar case naming John r. Consauies' o.
Troy as a contractor who had wanted
10 tell him the whole story or the system
Of holding up contractors.
Assistant District Attorneys John klrK-
land Clark, William II. i. Edwards ana
William u Erbree. who have been as
slstng Mr.. Whitman in the John Doe
inquiry and the grand jury proceedings
held conference at the Bar Association
las, night to map out the work for next
week
Clark had a conference with Hennessy
IN Albany on Wednesday, and got enough
Of the story TO appreciate the POSSIBILITY
Of "bagmen" indictments, similar 10 the
one now standing against Everett p.
Fowler. against two men who have not
been named in the investigation so far
In addition to what work develops from
Hennessy's new evidence, the District
Attorneys office has a score Of upstate
contractors coming 20 the witness stand,
beginning Monday. who will probably
pile up evidence of the collection trips
both Of Fowler and Of one Of the two
rev "bagmen" 10. be brought into the
use bv Hennessy's witnesses.