The Penn's Grove record., 1913-10-24


zer's progressive leanings. Mr.. Sulzer
says
1T was in this very conversation that
Mr.. Murphy said to me: Unless you do
what | want you to do l will wreck
your administration as Governor, block
all your legislation and defeat all of
your appointments
"He said:-'Remember, l control the
Legislature, and the Legislature can
control the Governor
HE also threatened me with public
disgrace unless l agreed to his pro-
gramme on legislative matters and ap-
pointments.
1T was at this conference, too, that
he talked about the things he had on
me- and said | had better listen to him
and not to his enemies up the State (;
that if | did what he told me to do |
would have things easy and no trouble,
and that if | didn't do what he wanted
me to l would have all the trouble |
wanted.
He was very insulting. Then | asked
him what he could do to destroy me.
And he said: Never mind, you will find
out in good time. Stand by the organ
ization and you will be all right. If you
go against the organization l will make
your administration the laughing stock
of the State"
Wanted Mr.. Blake Called Off.
1T was at this time that he asked me
to call off George Blake, the Commits
sioner who was investigating the
prisons. He said that Blake must be
called off and that he didn't want the
prisons investigated unless we could
agree upon some man to do it. l told
him that Blake was an efficient man and
that | was going to let him go on with
his work, and he said: IF you do you
will be sorry for it. Mark what l am
telling you now!"
Mr.. Sulzer says hat soon after this
interview, which widened the breach
between himself and the Tammany
chief, all sorts of emissaries came to
him to make demands and to threaten
him at the same time. The threats be-
gan in a small way in February and
continued with greater vehemence up to
the very night that the Assembly passed
the resolution of impeachment. Re-
garding the emissaries, Mr.. Sulzer
says
Zone of the agents through whom
Mr.. Murphy most frequently commune
Gated with me was Judge Mccall.
Judge Mccall usually spoke OF Mr..
Murphy as the Chief and would say
to me that the Chief wished such and
such a thing done or demanded that I
follow such and such a course of ac-
. ton"
Mr.. Sulzer tells of a final interview
with Mr.. Murphy on the night of April
IS at which he declares that the head
of Tammany was more insolent to him
than he had ever been before. 1t was
after the Jefferson banquet at the Wal
dorf and Mr.. Murphy called up Mr..
Mccall, who was in the Governors
rooms at the hotel, and asked the Gov
ernor to come to his house.
One of the topics of conversation at
that time, Mr.. Sulzer says, was the case
of Senator Stilwell. MI. Sulzer a
that he asked Mr.. Murphy not to in
terfere in the case, and then inquired
what the leader of Tammany proposed
to do in the matter.
Stand by him, of course" replied
Mr.. Murphy. "Stilwell will be ac-
quilted. 1t will be only a three day
wonder. How do you expect a Sen
ator to live on $500 a year? That is
only chicken feed"
Mr.. Sulzer continues to saw
Before we parted that night l
warned Mr.. Murphy that he would
wreck the party and accomplish his own
destruction if he PERSISTED in shielding
g%rafters and violating platform pledges.
CRATE, and that he would disgrace and
destroy me-"
"And again." said Mr.. Sulzer, "a
prominent New York City man came to
me from Mr.. Murphy one day in June
and told me in plain language that l
would be impeached unless I abandoned
my opposition to Mr.. Murphy, and es-
p~ecially unless l abandoned the effort to
indict the criminals who were connected
with the highway and canal steals.
"At that time Commissioner Hen
messy was beginning to get close to the
thieves. This man said that if | would
consent to call off Mr.. Hennessy the
impeachment proceedings would o be
begun. I said l. would not for a mo-
ment consider any such action"