The evening world., 1913-06-02
SIX SENATORS TEST|FYAT TARIFF
HEAR|NGABOUT WORK Of LOBBY

to influence action Of members OF Con.
sress by means other than by died ar.
sumenf. briefs or speeches before
members and committees.
| Il consider that men, and women.
too. who buttonhole mem bers and try
to influence them In private methods
are fobbyists."
ARIZONA oARs leo,slAr,oN IN
LUNCHEON TALK.
After the formal questions had
been answered Senator Cummins
asked for further light on Just where
Senator Ashurst drew. the line be.
tween legitimate presentation Of arGu.
mcnt ana illesitin,ate lobbying.
Down In Arizona" said Ashurst,
we considered il questionable prac-
uce for men to take legislators out
TO luncheon or dinner and then talk to
them about legislation"
| Discussing further the appearance OF
representatives OF interests, the Senator
said. ..
The people have no lobby. The gem
eral public cannot keep Up lobby agents.
Lobbying consists In the character Of
the arguments and Inducements held out
rather than IN the place or the persons
concerned"
Next came Bacon Of Georgia. eighteen
years Senator. He testiAed:
Il am the owner Of q little suburban
farm near Macon. on which I reaids.
/ have not examined the tariff bill TO
nee whether or not Il contains duties on
| any OF the articles which grown on that
farm. I have = small interest, about
ESQ. In q clay sewsI pipe factory.
Il DO not know whether or not there
10 any duty on that product. I have
small interests In three other small
companies In my town-a street rail-.
way. q gas company and an electrical
power plant. I don't suppose any OF
these IL included In the tarin BILL I
have no other interests In any articles
OF production. All told Il amounts 10
! only q few thousand dollars. wish
1t were more"
Senator Bacon 10 noted as one Of the
poorest men In the senate--ons for
whom money has no interest.
II think" said senator Bacon. there
~ little or mono Of the old kind Of
|
| the time when mon gave great social
entertainments and used various oues-
tionable methods to influence isgisla.
tion. But those days and methods,
think. have pretty well passed. I see
| nothing wrong or illexitimate In .
man or lawyer appearing before com.
mittees or members to present views
, OF his own business or interests"
Senator Bacon knew no lobbyists
and had not been approached by any.
0oRAH HAS BEEN TALKED TO
BUT NOT ~ "LoDevisrs."
Senator Borah OF Idaho. next took the
! denial platform.
NO." was his brief answer to most Of
the questions.
Men who have spoken to him on tarif
Items were Harry Day and Mr.. Nc
! Carthy. prominent citizens Of idaho on
| lead schedules; +. !. Hogenbarth. presi-
! dent Of Nsticnsi Wool Growers Aaaoc!a-
tion. and DR.. Mcclure. secretary. con-
cerning wool duties: several men from
louisiana on sugar. and numerous oc-
casional callers. As Senator Borah be-
longs to the Republican minority. no
lobbyists tried TO Influence him In favor
OF higher tariff duties. because he al.
ready favored such policy.
lie had seen no lobbyists around his
ofiice and knew OF no use of money. Sem
ator Borah added: Il think that there
are not so many interested parties here
for this tarin bill as before. I am not
! so impressed with their numbers. but
that may be because I am on the mi
! norlty side this time"
peRAoLEv SORRY HE's NOT RICH
ENOUGH TO sE AFFECTED.
Senator Bradley OF Kentucky said he
was not interested In production Of any
article In the tariff unless II VAS .
five thousand dollar life Insurance
policy in favor OF his daughter, insur.
ance being mentioned In tine income
tax schedule.
No lobbyists ever bothered the SEN
atOr from Kentucky; he never saw one
to know him. nor did he know Of any
money being used.