The Washington times., 1913-01-26
TESTIMONY ABOUT
JUSTICE A. N. GOULD
MAY Be EXPUNGED
Insurance Investigators to Hold
Executive Session to Consid-
er Transcript Of Records.

Following the testimony of Congress.
man Robert L. Henry. of the Rules
Committee. and Judge Ashley NJ. Gould
of the District Supreme Court, the in.
surance investigation by the House Dis
trict Committee is again in an en-
tangled state today, and an executive
session Of the Investigators will be held
tomorrow to determine wnat shall be
expunged from the transcript of the
Saturday hearings.
The latest complication is the result of
efforts by Judge Goyid to run down un-
substantiated reports that he received
money for the use Of his name as an
officer in the First National and Com
mercial fire Insurance companies; the
testimony of Congressman Henry that
Mr.. Redfield, a member of the investi-
eating committee, had made such a
statement, and the demand of Mr.. Red
field that he leave his seat as investi-
gator and take the witness stand him.
self.
The committee voted late yesterday
that CONGRESSMAN Redfield could not
take the stand; that he was an investi-
gator ard ought not to be investigated.
The committee practically decided that
the entire record, SO far as it relates to
the report concerning Judge Gould, in
cluding the jurist's questioning Of Mr..
Redfield and the testimony Of Mr.. Henry
shall go out.
Wants It Expunged.
Congressman Prouty moved that
everything after the direct examination
of Judge Gould shall be stricken from
the record, and 1t was finally decided
that the stenographers shall present a
transcript at an executive session to-
morrow.
At the morning session Judge Gould
had Indignantly refuted the report that
he received any conpesatio for the use
Of his name and said he wanted to learn
the author of the report.
Congressman Prouty and Berger said
the entire matter should be eliminated
Chairman johnson took an opposite
leagues. Mr.. Redfield, naturally, did
not vote on the question.
The hearing took an unusual turn
yesterday afternoon when Chairman
Henry of the Rules Committee, was
called. He testified that at confer
ence in Speaker Clark's office regard
ing the resolution for the insurance
investigation Congressman Redfield
had urged the inquiry, saying that
do things they should not
do and that the names Of some of the
judges In Washington courts were
among the directors.
He said that they were paying one
of these judges $4,000 year for the
use of his name"
(which judge?" asked Attorney
Douglas.
Judge Could" said Mr.. Henry.
Place don Grill.
Congressman Henry was then sub
jected to a vigorous cross-examination
by Mr.. Redfield. The latter wanted to
know II he had not qualified that state
ment by saying that ''it was reported"
or I'VE are told that this is fact con-
cerning Judge Gould. Mr.. Henry per-
sisted that his memory was to the effect
that Mr.. Redfield had made the fat
statement, and the committee immedi-
ately became involved in controversy
expunging all this matter
from the record.
At the outset OF his testimony yes
terday. Judge Gould denied that he re-
ceived any money for the use Of his
name: demanded that the origin of the
report be run down, and testified that
his connection with the companies was
a purely legitimate business one.
The insurance investigating commit
tee will hold no hearing tomorrow, as
i is District day in the House. Chair
man johnson announced he would be
on the House floor looking after Dis
trict bills on the calendar. but he sug-
sested an executive meeting of the COM
mittee which will proceed to do further
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