The Washington times., 1913-07-07
LAUTERBACHiNMikS
He LIED. TO, STEELE
First Says Report Wass Esag-
gerated, Then Comics ses He
ToId Fa!Sehood. {,
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o. the question whether Lauterbach I Z
being given immunity by his testinoi
Immunity Is Waived
When the comn7ittee resumed Chan
man Overr,an- asked Lauterbach IL II
rad beeh sibpoenael or came volufs
tsrily
Voluntarily said Nr. Laitefbaet.
IF there is any uuestiD of immunity
in your. minds / waive immunity aoso-
lutely."
The. committee then: proceeded with
the inveStfgation The statements OF
Lewis Casse Ledyard as to CONVERSE
tions with Lauterbach were gone over
at length and ihe New York attorney
was hauled over the GOALS freely and
without gloves at one stage and an
other of the Lsdyard assertions.
Senator Reed of Missouri led in the
cross-exEmination. AT times, the Mis-
souri, Senator grew angry and lost
patience. Mr.. Lauterbach,s memory
as to certain occurrences seemed
hazy, but on the whole he showed
little reluctance to testify.
ThrouChout his evidence he held UP
the picture of himself as man per
secuted and conspfred against by
great financial interests. with Ledyard
and represented. as before, that he
was merely seeking to reso1re hts
former good relations with Morgan
and Company and rehabihfSse ms ;
standing with powerful fiminciaf
houses.
Lamar Keenly Interested.
The Wolf" sat close to Lauterbacil
as the latter testified He followed
question and answer keenly. and. II he
was i'll at ease, did not show it. Senator
Stone came into the room soon after
listener. He has Indignantly denied any
idea that he had had any relations with
Laute-bach:
Lauterbach, I'm talking, OF the testi-
mony of Ledyard concerning their con-
versattun on February 8. denied that he
had assented to a statement that Lamar
was not straight or that Lamar was
engaged in blackfnail Latterbach sd-
mittsi he, had told Ledyard Lamar was
reckless, but brilliant and honest.
One Of the interesting revelations by
Lauterbach was that, although he rep
resented 70 bedyard that he had been
down to Washington and found neither
the Democratic leaders nor the Adrfiifi-
istration wanted the steel investigation.
he hal not seen any public man about
It while in Washington. He was here
on a lawsuit. and, when he got back
to New York. he got his information
about the situation from The Wolf"
Touching or. his knowledge of frnper-
sonations by Lamar, Mr.. Lauterbach at
Il was absolutely innocent OF all such
knowledge was willing to do any
thing m an honorable way 70 have my
business restored. Mr. Lamar. I felt.
was he cause OF disafrection toward
me on the part OF certain great cotro.
rations and Wall Street generally"
H>Ja R..S IT, sfvlt.,SD
But he refused to give Up his rela-
lions with Lamar, never having found
lin dishonest or having found HIM 10
have done a single wrong II was
Lamar who had helped him in many
ways 10 get business, who brought him
into touch with II. H. Rogers. for
e9%iee, w4S ne ,ps psrfomsa ss,n numerous legal
Rogers in the suit to prevent the Gug-
genheins getting control of the Ameri-
can smelling and Refining Company.
Il presume. that II had dropped Mr.
me-, observed the witness
Absolute denial was given by Lauter-
bach to staten1efts that he had pro-
spesHer c,sPs Senator assno1y s,ons " from from
one In Congress or made any reference
TO anything Of the kind. Whether az to
steel or anything else, he swore SOL
emnly he had not said anything Of this
LAuterbach admitted telling Ledyard
that he had told Steele he could stop
the steel Investigation without reference
TO Lamar.
The witness testified that, when he
went over to see Mr.. Morgan on behalf
of Mr.. Lamar, he was animated only
by the purest of motives. He only
wanted want q. MT; r Morgan TO speak one kind
Bauterbach went at length into his
dealings with Morgan & Co... and other
firms during the days Immediately fol-
Rasc olss Se l Hs sad that
was heavy Individual holder Of T.
Lauterbach started to tell the COM
ed 5t'ss se Of purebsr an s05t b e.s4ass MsGSssa
months before. but was not permitted 10
finish, although he declared that n the
oner had been accepted. the fight for
srs eossns factor se i s pss sash of i wss YOU'D
have been prevented.
Took Draft To Morgan.
Lauterbach admitted that when La
naas. gave him the copy Of the original
drar5 s5 q the Stanley s, Steel T5ast ihyes-
p. Morgan
why did you do thisT' densanaed
0verman.
7 wanted to bring Lamar and Nor
When did you first hear of thfs IN
vestigation or the Steel trust?"
Lamar brought rine the resointiofi
In the winter OF la0S''
What did Lamar sayT'
That the Steel trust was a monopoly
and should be investigated, and | touk
the resolution and went to Mr.. MORGAN
with it,
You've told us that before What
want to know is what Larilars mo-
live. as he told II TO YOU, really war;"
Willing To Believe Lamar.
IT cannot remember
Did he tell you that he was acting
for the public INTEREST,"
Yes he did"
And you knowing Larnar's private
character, believed him?''
Il certainly did"