The Washington times., 1913-08-01
NULHALL FINISHES
LOBBY TESTIMONY
Series of Contradictions and
Arguments at Session OF
Senate Board.

Martin NJ. Mulhall. confessed lobbyist
for the y. A. Nj, ended his three
weeks testimony this afternoon before
the lobby investigating committee in q
series of angry contradictions and argu'
ments With r.embeTs of the committee
and consul ior the n. 4. NJ.
Mulhall was excused until Monday
and was allowed to go to his home in
Baltimore. Senator Nelson will deter
mine later whether he desires further tC
cross-examine him on certain points
Mulhall spent the major portion OF the
day explaining the contradictions oe-
! tween his direct testimony on the neSo-
tiatiCns between the American Fedora
tion of Labor and himself over ms
M y. NJ. letters and the reports OF
these negotiations which he wrote 10
J. p. Bird, general manager of the
y. A. NJ. In the former he testified ne
offered the letters and they were re-
fused. In the latter he claimed that
Samuel Gompers asked Ior the letters
and he refused them.
On Monday James r. Watson. of lndi-
ana, will take the stand to refute por-
ticns of Mulhall's testimony. The com
m:ttee announced that hereafter 1t VIII
hold only morning sessions.
Ask To Do Examining.
The committee had barely begun to
put the cross questions when counsel for
the N A. NJ. again insisted they be al
lowed to do the examining. Senator
Reed objected and Mulhall insisted on
having counsel to represent him.
The committee at Senator Cummlhs
suggestion went into executive session
to determine its course of action
After half an hours deliberation, the
committee agreed that il would ask the
written questions and permit n. A. Nj.
counsel to submit additional questions
to the chairman. who would determine
their admissability, the whole Cross-eN-
animation to be concluded in two
hours.
Mulhall reiterated his statement that
+. c. Schwedtman placed 5000 in his
hands in St. Louis during the shoe
strike. He refused to fix the date. and
declared he was alone when the money
was given him.
In the Indiana campaign Of 1903. while
helping James f. Watson in his cam
paign for governor, the witness said
the n. A. NJ. spent $500. He himself
received only his expenses, he said.
Mulhall said, individually, he collected
no campaign funds, but he went with
the committee that solicited funds. d.
NJ. Parry and c. c. Hanch were in that
committee. he said. He himself saw
$500 collected.
Paper organization.
The witness insisted that the National
Council for Industrial Defense was only
a paper organization, formed to keep
from paying out money for doubtful
purposes from the n. A. NJ.
The witness irritation increased as
the day wore on, and before the morn
ing session had half progressed he was
as unruly as ever. breaking into IT,
10 phiprfinnS nj no
mittee. At every opportunity he in
Weighed against the y. A. NJ. The or
ganization was so secret he said, that
from 1908 to 1907 was known as No.
IL and no one knew who | was work
ing for. / made all my reports to Mar.
shall Gushing"
Reiterates Blacklist"
The witness reiterated his former
statement that a list of Congressman
already in the record was a blacklist
of those whom the n. A NJ. thought
inimical to their interests
Il don't know whether the list is in
Watson's handwriting he said.
MulhaIl denied that this list was mere
IL names CT congressman leaving WASH
irgton at the end Of a Congressional
session, which had been prepared for
the press.
The witness repeated that he had
CalleQ on 1t Ndtor simmons IN regard TO
the fight being made on W. F. Stone
collector OF the port of RSltimore, and
that Simmons had given him a list of
Senators to see, among them the two
Senator's from Maryland.
Whom did stone senG you to see?"
he was asked.
I'm not quite clear on that, at this
time" explained the witness. He added
that he had Speaking acquaintance"
with Simmons, and made than an ex-
cuse for the letter he wrote ]. Bid,
saying he was well acquainted with
the sender. His letter 20 Bird, in which
he told him that the ~ A VI. would
fare better in the Democratic Sixty
second Congress. he characterized as "a
diplomatic letter"
Letter of Imagination" suggested
Nelson.
Yes. sir. if you put II that way" the
witness admitted.
Tells Of Influence.
Other glib reports OF the influence
which he could WELD in having a chair
man of the House Labor and Judiciary
Committee appointed. Mulhall said. were
prompted by conditions at that time.
Mulhall insisted on having his direct
testimony on various subjects read to