New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-12-23
SCHMIDT ALIENIST
HINTS AT A SHAN
DR.. JeIliffe, Called by the
Defence, Saws Insanity
May Be Feigned.
"CUT HER THROAT"
PRIEST TOLD DOCTOR
Witness Says That Prisoner Was
Clearly Evasive When Put
to a Mind Test.

TO the surprise of the entire courtroom
DR.. Smith Ely Jelliffe, the first aienis
called by the defence in the trial Of Hans
Schmidt. testified yesterday evening, just
before the close of court that he thought
the slayer Of the Aumuller girl might
have been shamming insarity.
This admission was brought out unex
pectedly, under the questioning Of ex.
Judge ". NJ. X. OlcOtt The witness had
been on the stand almost the entire day.
following Dr. Perry Lichtcnstein. the
Tombs physician. when he began to tell o!
a mathematical test 10 which he and DIR
Minos S. Gregory had subjected Schmidt
last Tuesday evening, after the adjourn
ment Of court
1--WE first asked him how much three
times three was" said DR.. Jelline. He
said nine. Then We asked him what seven
times seven was, and he said forty-four
We asked him then how much three times
three was. and he said thirty three.
said 10 him, why do YOU say three times
three is thrty-three when you told us a
moment ago that IL was nine? And he
said: We'll, it is thirty-three' He was
plainly eyading for some reason, just why
/ don't know"
Judge Olcott jumped 10 his feet and
asked:
"YoI rrean re was Stimulating"
Perhaps he was" replied DR.. Jellifr..
In other words, he was shamming"
"He may have been"
TT f,I ~.
closely accounted for Judge Olcotts inter-
rupton by reasoning that he would rather
bring out this testimony than allow the
prosecution TO bring il out on cross-ex'
animation.
DR.. Jcliffes testimony followed closely
the outline Of the defence's theory Of
! Schmidts insanity, as published eXcu-
sively i'm The Tribune on Sunday He
told OF Schmidt's whole life, as Schmidt
described il to him, and said that after
Schmidt and Anna Aumuller had been
friendly for some time, Schmidt who was
then an assistant curste at St. Boniface's
Church, doubted whether he was doing
right in associating with her.
Schmidt told DR.. Gregory and myself
tlaL ne ttClUeu W l''N iVl d 'lSN ii''"
heaven 10 determine If the relations must
cease or continue. Schmidt told us that
he took Anna to the main altar Of ST
Yoniface's late one night, and that the
two remained there for a long time, wait
ing 10 see II there would be- some sign OF
heavenly disapproyal Schmidt said there
was none. and therefore he continued the
relations
Or. Jelliffe said that once. when Dr.
Gregory and he were examining Schmidt;
the discredIted priest, observing 9looa
blister under the nail Of one OF Or. Greg
ory's fingers, said:
. Are YOU priest.
NO" said DR.. Gregory.
Well. you'll be priest In time lol
have the mark. III lend you hhie.
DO as | did. Cut her throat. BUT don't
desecrate the body after Staying hey, as
1 did I now know I sinned IN desc
Grating the body Of Anna.
Or. Jelliffe said that Schmidt on one
occasion said that he was sorry he had
not committed suicide years ago.
Or. JellifTe was still on the stand when
court was adjourned.
After adjournment counsel on both
sides met in an effort 10 see II they
could agree on the hypothetical Ques-
lions that will be propounded TO each
of the eight alenists. After DR.. Jellins
has testified either DR. Gregory or pr.
William 4. White OF Washington, viii be
called DR.. Joseph Cotton Will bring the
direct case OF the defence 10 a close.
The state will also have four allenists-
DR.. Carlos F. Macdonald. DR.. William
Mabon, DR. j. Ross Diefendorf and Or.
Kirby. q