New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-12-18
Writes That FleiSChmanns
Want to Sell Interest
in the Club.
TINKER SALE CAUSE
OF MORE RUMBLlNGS
Charley EbbetS Insists That Case
Will Not Reach the Courts
or Even Directors.

Horace Fogel, not so long ago president
OF the PhillieS who was barred lIo"'
the councils of the National League d.
the annual meeting I'm 1912, is authority
for the statement that the Fleischmanns'
uho arc now said to control the stock OF
the Cincinnati club. want to sell .the"
holdings and get out of baseball
In an effort to manage the Reds joe
Tinker has managed to stir up more trou-
BILE than he did in a certain game al the
Polo Grounds when he hammered the ban
over Cy Seymours head, and so roopeu
the Giants of pennant
When Tinker was deposed ana nna'H
sold to Brooklyn for the record price o.
s25.OOO the storm broke and the odlum Oh
II all has led to the Feischmanns eN-
pressing a desire to sell; that is accord
ing to FOgel
In a letter to a well known baseball
man in Pittsburgh the only Horace
writes. or is quoted as writing as follows;
.'No doubt IL surprised you to hear
what Hermann did in New York IN the
way of disposing of Tinker To those
who we're on the ground. however some
thing OF the kind was expected.
AS a result Of Herrmann'S actions J
have been commissioned by Max Fleisch-
mann to Try and persuade my old frieNd
and hacker JEFF" Livingston. TO pur-
chase the controlling interest in the On
clnnau club.
"Of course. you know well as that
Jeff would not for minute have Herr
mann around the team. Further than
event of Livingston purchasing inc
Fleischmann interest / would certainly
again have something to say I'm organized
baseball circles.
Hermann has made many foolish
trades and sales since taking hold OF the
Cincinnati team. He reached what was
thought to be the height Of folly IN ihe
ICY" Morgan deal but i'm the Tinker al
fair he overlooked every bet.
LEFT" Livingston. to whom Fogel refers
as a probable purchaser Of the Reds is
the head Of a manufacturing company In
Cincinnati. lie is understood to have
been one OF Fogers financial hackers while
the latter was president Of the Philadel-
phia club.
Joe Thinkers name did not appear i'm the
list Of contracts and releases approved
Yesterday by Governor Tener, the new
president Of the National League, al
though all other trades and sales. includ-
ing tn transfer by the Giants of Charley
Herzog and Grover Hartley 10 Cincinnati
for Bob Bescher. made at the recent gath
cring Of the owners, were promulgated.
This led several men who make close
study of baseball TO express the opinion
that Tinker would never play in Brooklyn,
although it actually had no bearing on
the status of the case.
Little that was new developed yesterday
in the much talked Of sale. Charles II.
Ebbets said that he had sent telegram
20 August Hermann, advising him that a
letter was on the way. and promised that
he might have an important announce
ment to make this afternoon as to the
stand of the Brooklyn clue.
He still insisted that the contract must
stand as made and that no question could
be raised as to its validity under baseball
law
Mr. Ebbets secuted the suggestion that
the case would get into the courts and eX-
pressed the opinion that it would never
even reach the board Of directors Of the
league, much less the national commits
sion