The Birmingham age-herald., 1913-09-24
Not Believed Indictment Found

| Poughl<eepsie, n. Y. September 23-1f
the grand jury of Duchess county has
found an indictment against Harry X.
Thaw, as reported by William Travers
Jerome today at Concord, it has not been
made public here nor handed up in any
court. The district attorneys office ex-
planned this afternoon that the jury had
made no report on the case and had
| adjourned for two weeks 1t was added
that it was possible, however, that in
| dictment had been found and kept Sc
cret.
/ When the grand jury came into court
yesterday Foreman William Dean in
| formed Judge Hasbrouck that "the case
| they We're considering" presumably the
Thaw case. was to be taken away from
them and given to the next grand jury
which they thought was not fight as
they had been working hard on the mat
ter.
District Attorney Conger told the court
the case had not been finished because
all the, witnesses desired could not be
found at present. The district attor-
ney, however, agreed to Deans sugges-
ton that the grand jury adjourn for
two weeks and later the jury returned
to court with a batch of indictments and
the information that they had decided
to adjourn for two weeks and then fin
ish 1.-The case
ut surely Will not be contended,"
said Mr.. jerome. that the hysteria OF
the moment is sufficient excuse for
contravening these decisions of the su-
preme court of the nation and of the
states"
Says Thaw Is Indicted
To the assertion that there was no
Indictment against Thaw he replied:
"The fact is, which | have a right
to know as a deputy attorney general
that an indictment was found and was
signed, but before that indictment was
filed request was preferred by the
attorney general through me that the
grand jury suspend further investiga-
ton until ! could return from New
Hampshire to present to them evidence
concerning the instigator of this plot
"a man of more Importance than any
one yet named in the proceedin gs--and
after a conference between myself and
one of the grand jurymen appointed as
committee the entire matter was laid
over and that is the history of that
With evidence of increased feeling
Mr.. Jerome then turned to the charge
that he had used subterfuge and was
moved by Interior motives. he said:
"Finally, let me say in reply to Judge
Chase as to why the New York author
tiles are so anxious to obtain Thaw The
simple reason. sir, is this: From the very
hour that Stanford White lay dead on
the roof garden in the city of New York
his life taken either by a murderer or n
lunatic-from that time to this minute
Ii has been said repeatedly that in the
end the Thaw money would defeat the
ends of justice.
80 far it has not entirely accomplished
ii, but wherever this case has gone and
wherever it has rested, it has left a trail
of ignomy, disgrace filth and scandal be-
hind it that has been absolutely appall-
ing; and the state of New York. sir. will
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the corrupt use of money If it can pre-
vent it. and that is why the state of
New York wants back a man whom it
regards a homicidal lunatic when in
| fuenced by his insane delusions and a
| vicious degenerate at other times-a man
! criminal in his lucid intervals and dan
| gerous in his insane ones
Will Try to Convict Him
| And / say. sir, so far as the attor-
/ ney general of the state of New York
| is concerned. through me, the state of
New York can pledge its course as the
! best evidence of good faith by saying
that If this man be returned to the state
| of New York, he will be put on trial
before a jury and by every fair and de-
cent means that the state of New York
can exert it's power to have him convicted
! of the crime of which we believe him to
| be guilty.
! u VIII rest viii tHt Stdle VI NEW I ,,
to show that the Thaw money cannot
corrupt forever although for time it
| may.
'frhe state of New York will show that
and that sir, is why New York wants
Thaw back in it's jurisdiction, and that
| statement, gentlemen. Is not subterfuge
Nor am I employed or willing to con-
sent to be employed by anyone to manu-
facture subterfuges."
As Jerome concluded there was a briei
conference of the opposing counsel and
| then they replied briefly. Governor
Stone asserted that jerome had bounded