The San Francisco call., 1913-07-31
FEDERAL BOARD TO
PASS UPON DISPUTE
IF Government Offers Services as Mediator
We Are in Duty Bound to Accept"
President Gregg of Conductors

IN OTuer tndt the management ol
these lines may be in position to
successfully operate them and
compete for traffic. Yours truly. :
e. E. CALVIN.
LETTER FROM UNION OFFICERS
\ Second. a letter signed by I. A.
I Gregg, vice. president of the Order OF
/ Railway Conductors, r. Mcintyre, vice
broad Trainmen S. yeatch, general
| chairman OF the Order Of Railway
+ Conductors. and E. A. Lar Rieu, general
chairman Of the Brotherhood of Rail
road Trainmen. under date of July s
| 1913. and addressed 10 said +. e. Cal
Yin, as follows.
San francisco, Cal.
+ July s, 1913.
t Mr.: F. E. Calvin. vice president
system,. Flood building. city.
Dear Sir: Your communication
of June rs received, In which you
outline proposed arrangement for
operation of Alameda county cleo
fric.iines In gasi, also FOR operation Of the
ern railway, under managements
separate from the Pacific system
lines of the Southern Pacific COM
pany. and after carefully consider
ing 1t in every detail we are au
thorized to advise you that there
are several provisions contained In
your decision that can not be ac-
cepted. Therefore. your plan is not
accepted in its entirety. but in An
endeavor TO reach an amfcable set
tlement of these questions We are
tee TO submit the following as
tentative Proposition.
We accept your plan OF operating the
| Two electric properties, as outlined In
your letter of June IS. in SO far as It
affects the seniority of the men In
VOWED on each property and the inter
change OF rights; the properties to be
operated under any plan of manage
a De- g.,
seem advisable. provided. however. tha t
the present schedule of rates of pay and
working conditions for trainmen be
e0htinuea con mi. In. force and effect intact;
or handling grievances. except that To-
cal committees will be elected for the
electric service, such local committees
to deal with the electric officials as
other local committees now deal with
any other local officials of this com
pany, and IL the local committees for
the electric divisions fall to reach a
| settlement of any questions In hand.
such committees to have the right to
appeal to the general committees for
the Southern Pacific company which
they VIII remain part of, and the gem
erai committee or general chairman,
VIII be met and dealt with by the com
pany IN these cases in precisely the
same manner 8 all other matters are
handled: and. further provided that IL
the electric service is extended to such
an extent that steam line crews are
permanently supplanted, because of in
vasion of steam territory, or where
steam lines are electrified and turned
over to be operated by electric di-
Vlsions. such men who are supplanted
or turned over Cor other men, to the
extent in number Of those supplanted
or turned over). will be given the
right to bid in to electric service car
rying their seniority with them. but
IN electric service when they accept
such transfer.
We suggest a conference with you on
ms SUBJECT at your earliest conven-
ience Yours truly.
T. A. GREGG.
Vice President. o.. r. C.
r. MCINTYRE.
S. vEATCH.
General Chairman, Q. R. c.
e. A. LAR RIEU,
General Chairman, 3. R T.
CALVIN'S REPLY
GAVIN in answer to said letter of July
., 1913. and under date of July IL. 1913,
addressed to said T. A. Gregg, r. Nc
lntyre. S. Veatch and E. A. Lar Rieu,
July Il, 1913
Mr.. I. A. Gregg. vice president 0.
X c., care Argonaut hotel, San
Mr.. r. Mcintyre. vice president b.
X T.. care Argonaut hotel, San
Francisco
v J.
r. c.. 436 Pacific building. San
Mr. E. 4. Lar Rieu. general chair
man B. r. T., 43s Pacific build
ing, San Francisco.
Dear Sirs
Confirming my verbal statement
TO you this morning. would say
that the changes proposed in yours
july to the plan outlined in mine
Of June % would not work out sat
isfaetorily and can not be accepted
one | met in this matter, consist
ing OF some 90 men from all parts
OF New Mexico, Arizona, California,
Nevada. Utah and Oregon. would
nave no knowledge nor apprecia-
tion OF conditions on electric lines
IN Portland and vicinity where we
are to be in sharp competition with
other lines and where the demands
of the public as TO the character OF
the service required of us will be
more than usually exaeting Neither
couid we consider for a. moment
agreeing in advance as to future
electric lines. Each situation will
have to be worked out upon its own
merits In the cases that have
arisen. however. there can be no
fault found with our treatment of
them. Yours truly,
E. E. CALVIN.
Fourth-A letter under date of July
u, 1913, in answer to said letter Of
July IL, 1913. addressed to said r. r.
Calvin and signed by said Gregg. Nc
intyre, Neatch and Lar Rieu, as fol-
lows:
July II, 1918.
Mr.. F: Z. Calvin. vice president
building, City
Dear Sir: Your final decision
under date of July IL received, and
we are authorized to reply as fol-
lows:
We regret that your final de-
eislon, which means that no IT
ruement Of the electric questi, ms
can be made by us with yoe with
out full and complete separation
or the rights of the men and COM
mlttees, as well as the issuance
OF separate schedules to cover those
parts of the system which will be
operated by electricity, can not be
accepted by us.
Having exhausted every effort at
our command in trying to reach
an amicab1e settlement of these
questions. without result this will
CONFIRM our verbal statement made ,
to You Yesterday that the whole
subject matter will be referred to
the men whom we represent for
their vote. This vote should be
returned within 10 days or two
weeks, at which time we will seek
further conference with YOU and
inform you as to what action is
authorized
Yours truly
T. A. GREGG.
Vice President o. r. C.
r. MCINTYRE
Vice President B. r. r
S. VEATCH
General Chairman Q. r. C.
E. A. LAR RIEU.