New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-02-22

/ interviews Wild UdN, tldlh 'N''' 49,
! efforts to convincing Or. Russell, the
/ Superintendent of the institution, that
he would win the undying gratitude oil
| Governor s;rlzcr If he released the
Young slayer.
Dr.. Russell Subpoenaed.
! Immediately Mcssrs. Carlisle. Delane!
and Lynn hurried to the Executive
/ Chamber 10 find ont what they sllouiu
do. The Governor then told them for the
first time about Or Mays talk WIN
| him concernngs Clark's misuse OF the
Sulyor name. lie told them 10 go ahead
and investigate. SO they did. II nap
! pcned that Or. Russell was In this city
/ To-day on official business, and thcy
suhpmnacd him AT once. He was piaceu
on the stand and subjected to grii'ihs'
! In answer to questions he tod OF
! visit on January 30 from Alfred Henry
! Lewis. who came armed with the oui-
! ger letter Of Introduction. Lewis oh'S
wanted to sec Thaw. he said. ana liau
so long a talk with the prisoner that ne
/ had 10 take a late night train for Ne"
York. Later Clark and Lewis together
came to see him. and Clark then peS'"
| TO tell him. the witness SAID no" hI"o"
| tho Governors heart was set on on
tanning the release of ThaW.
| tJc sworc that later ne was sum-
moucd 10 this city by telegram iro"h
LClark. who entertained HIM at iuhc"eo"
/ at tho Albany Club and again told MN
,hc somc tale. After luncheon. he SAID
! clark took him over to see CHAIRMAN
Carlisle to DISCUSS appropriations DIV
did NOT mention the Tha~ release theh'
Jrc declared that Clark later came 10
/ hin, from time TO time with one form
! 81 anncal or another until TINS nag
yiprr enraged him. He finally talKed
II over with Or. May, his lri"nd.
pr Russell told OF a conversation ne
had had with Mt HOFFMAN oil fous
keepsic. Mr.. Thaw's private detec''N''
:, which the witness said he had peen
adyisod he would be called to Aioah'
soon on the Thaw matter ana t'dt Wv
! "c;oyornor wanted Thaw out. On ECU
ruary Il. DR.. Russell said, ne "a'
calIod on the telephone from N'paHS ~
! ~. MAY Tho latter told him he hai
/ -, N. Governor. by whom he hau
bccu informed that the ina"
,,.o,,,d have To take its regular course
The Superintendent said that even i"
lao had received a written order from
,bo Governor 10 release Thaw ne "ouid
not have done 50. -,,
CON February ." said Or. Russcl',
..r,o.,ors O'Sullivan and Kennedy %
<cw York. called on me with 'e''e'
/ fror, Mr.. Lewis. requesting that theY
hc permitted To examine ThaW' "''-''
request granted.
.c,u. of politics.' He Thought.
Dr Russell said he didn't talk to inc
Governor himself about the case oe
causo nc wanted 10 see how TAR Clark
u.,,,,d ca. lie considered ii a game
-, ro,itics" and felt willing to match
D
h,s wits against Clark's. He told
colonel Scott. his immediate superior
! all about each detail of it, he said
"yynv were you interested to see
how. far Clark would CO. asked John
r Norton counsel for the investigating
commission. Were YOU trying to get
something on the Governor!
because | thought il was a crooked
! ricce of business" replied DIR. Russell
sbarply., The probers gasped. and
rlark's face turned deep red. /
didn't think the Governor was IN H.
IN, thought this man Clark was III
q and was using the Governor
! name
DR.. Russell explained that he didn
! consider il crooked 10 ask for the dis
! charge of patient. but that II was
! cracked 10 seek 10 obtain the discharge
Of any patient by representing that the
| Governor wanted IT,
! Counsel for the Investigators sought
diligently to obtain DR.. Russells opln-
ion as TO whether Thaw was sane. lie
,vore he never told Lewis or Clark
that Thaw was sane. His utterances
an that point. he said. had been made
in court <and were matters OF record
He declined to express any opinion
| about the advisability of Thaw's dis
| charge further than to say tnat the
courts had not deemed it advisable.
Then the examination quickly shifted
10 the alleged bribery. Or. Russell was
asked If there had been any proposition
made to him 10 obtain Thaw's release
since the habcas corpus proceedings
Last wear He said there had not.
minute later his counsel asked him II
thcrc we're anything i'm a story regard
ING money offered in November or De-
ccmber for the release of ThaW
"Oh. yes. there was such a request
renliel DR.. Russell Il was offered w.
ooo If I would discharge this man.
The head Of the hospital seemed TO
take il coolly. He did not appear to
roaIize that a $4,000 bride offer was
remarkable thing. He said he could not
, toll inst when the offer was made.
Pressed for details, he recalled that II
was I'm the latter part Of last year and
that a lawyer had made the offer. lie
,,.s sure the offer was $4,000. not $50