The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1913-08-23

for regular men within 10 cOnsecu-
tive hours be granted IL Will be able
10 so arrange its schedules as 10
greatly increase above 81 per cent the
number OF regular runs, which will
result greatly TO the advantage OF
the men
with respect 10 the rates OF pay
now existing. the company submits
that they are as high or higher than
are paid for like service In any city
comparable with Detroit. and com
pare most favorably With the wages
paid for like skill In any other indus
try
After the statement by Mr.. Brooks
Arthur r. Brown. a division superin-
tendent. was called TO the stand, ana
testified TO men tearing tickets out or
their books FOR use after leaving the
company's employ.
Judge Phelan demanded that the
witness ten only what he knew oil
his own knowledge, and after some
hesitancy Mr. Naylon so ordered,
DO you know OF employees allow
ing others 70 use their pass books
asked MIR. Brooks OF the witness.
Yes
Judge Phelan called for the names
OF the men who had abused the priv
ilege
Mr. Brooks volunteered that he had
the names OF l3 men who had been
discharged from MIR. Browns division,
and stated that there had been in all
ll5 violations OF section between
Jan | and Aug. 10
In how many homes have You
found tickets torn from the books?
asked Mr. Mahon.
-Four. was the answer.
How many men have you discoy'
cred abusing section in the last
year?"
Il don't know
Were the men discharged? -
Yes
Were their cases arbrtrated?'
NO"
Can YOU give us the names OF
those whom you have detected?
The witness asserted that lie could
look up the records. but could no.
give them off.hand.
Judge Phelan made strong plea
10 give the men chance TO defend
themselves from accusation brought
against them by the company
Mi. Brooks asserted that the names
OF the men ana the reasons Tor their
dismissal had been given TO the asso-
citation.
This is not criminal court; we
do not want TO prosecute the men,
he said.
DO you want 10 disgrace shese
men by bringing them heref asked
Mr. Naylon.
Yes. II there is any disgrace at
tached TO It, replied Mr.. Mabon. We
want the company 10 produce the
specific evidence that this privilege
is being abused. 1t Is a right that
the men have enjoyed for years, ana
should not be lightly taken away
Mr. Mahon and Judge Phelan IN
sisted that the abuse SHOULD be easily
detected and asked for the reading
OF the rule that passbooks must De
presented for tickets In them 10 be
good.
Mr.. Brooks, asserted, however. that
this rule could not be enforced IN
-you-enter cars.
How many men do you know SUB
stituted passes for cash fare?' asked
Mr.. Mahon.
Il do not know; there have oeen
numerous cases" replied Brown.
Those again are general asser-
tons. that's why We need 10 have
the men come before u.s." insisted
Judge Phelan We want the eHi'
dence TO be in definite form 10
which We can offer rebuttal
Mr. Henderson took the position
that since the board had no power 20
enforce testimony, II should not be
technical in its admission OF 1t. Each
side. he said should be allowed 10
present evidence as II pleased, ana
the other allowed TO question II.
Mr.. Brooks asserted that the COM
panv did not follow the men whom
they discharged, but often helped
them 70 other positions. II would not
be fair 10 disclose their names, ne
said
IL am I'm favor Of rejecting every
bit OF testimony that is brought In
in this way by stories OF what The
division superintendent mas been
told" said Judge Phelar. III this
sort OF matter Is admitted they can