Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1913-07-17
EVEN WANTED A
CABINET OFFICE
M III MI DETAIL - PLAN 10
sEtjRI. CONTROL on
CONGRESS-.
Named F0EMER PRESIDENTS


WASHINGTON, July G.-PMns TO
make the National Association OF
Manufacturers the controlling factor
IN campaigns for congress, 60 dcfent
legislation in Washington it's mcm-
bcrs did not approve, to get the ears
of men who were running prcsldou-
tlal booms and TO land "a member Of
the ASSOCIATION I'm the cabinet Of 4
president, were laid before the sru-
ate lobby investigating committee to-
day. Martin NJ. Mulhal self-styled
lobbyist tor the association, sWore to
the authenticity Of nearly 400 letters
which told of these plans ana
brought I'm the names of such men as
former Presidents Roosevelt and
Taft. the late Vice President Sher-
man, former Speaker Cannon form
er Senators Aldrich, liemenWay, For
aker and others; Arthur l. Norys,
Ohio manager Of the Taft campaign,
in 1908, and Frank II. Hitchcock.
one time chairman Of the republican
national committee and postmaster
general In Mr.. Tuft's cabinet.
Names Another Organization.
Mulhall testified, too. that the Ma
tiOnal Council for Industrial Defense,
an organization allied to the Nation
nj Association of Manufacturers has
raised between 100000 and 100000
year to be used in opposing legsla-
tion It's members did not like. He
said this information came from
collector for the council, but that he
had no personal knowledge of H. eN-
cept that he had been paid for poll
tlcal work from such a fund.
Mulhall showed the strain he has
bocn under for four days during the
afternoon session and the committee
took him from the stand for a half
hour and listened to testimony by j.
l.. Bird, general manager Of the
| Manufacturers Association, ana treas
urer Of the Industrial Defense Coun-
/ ell, Bird brought half a CARLOAD Of
/ books and papers with him to Wash
/ ington and turned them over to tho
I committee He refused 10 say who
had contributed 10 the fund OF the
council but ne will be examined
at length later and the committee
will undertake to make him tell what
manufacturers contributed and what
amounts they gave.
Along with the information that
Bird had n half carload of data, to
submit, the committee heard that f..
! G. Schwcdtman OF st. Louis, secre-
tary 10 the late JAS. w. Van CleaVe,
once president of the National As
sOciatlon of Manufacturers had about
10000 letters bearing on the asso-
ciation's work ScLwedtman was in
constant communication with Mul-
hall, according 10 the lattcrs owl
dence.
Told of Interview.
The committee was greatly inter-
ested In letter which Mulhall swore
ne wrote 10 Schwcdtman April l6,
1908 II told Of Il conversation Null
hall had In Washington with former
Representative Watson Of Indiana, In
which the latter described a two
hour interview at the White House
between MIR. Roosevelt and himself.
In part the letter read:
'lle tWatsou) said he was invited
to the White House at $3.50 p. IN. and
was with the president until 1880 p.
m. The president wished him to call
so they could 70 over the legislative
program for the balance OF this ses.
sion. the president knowing that he
represented Speaker Cannon and the
other leaders Of the house and sem
ate. lie stated that the main reason
Of the call as that Speaker Cannon.
Vice President Fairbanks and several
others wanted 10 find out how the
president stood in relation to a third
term. He stated that there were
four things the president wished
First, that congress would stay In
session until the 18Th Of May 20 meet
governors Of the different states COM
ing to Washington on that day. Sec.
ond, To amend the sherman law
D. HaL
hattleships Fourth, TO pass q child
labor law for the District of Colum-
hia which would bee a model law for
tho states iu general
Could Not Pass Two.
Mr. Watson says he told the
president that II was impossible for
him To- get this congress to pass two
Of those bills. First that congress
would only vote for two battleships
and second. that congress would not
amend the sherman law The ptesi-
dent wanted to know why. MI Wat
son told him that almost the entire
manufacturing Interests If the DOuu-
try were against 1t.
MI Watson told him he knew
Mr.. Van Cleave well. and other lead
ers in touch with Mr.. Van Cleave
and that MIR. Van Cleave was a
splendid fellow. lie talked along
those lines with the president and
finally the president did not press to
have the sherman bill passed at this
session OF congress.
"He then stated that they passed.
tO the child labor law and Alr Wat
SON asked the president who would
draw this model bill. The president
replied that ne would have his labor
commissioner draw il up The pres
ident stated that hc merely wished
this hill Co be- an academic for the
states"
The letter closed with reference
to Mr.. Watts MS account of his efforts
20 draw Mr. Roosevelt out on the
question If third term
SchWcdtman told Nulhall In a let
ter early in 1905. 'it is really pity
that We cannot get you to congress