The Detroit times., 1913-07-08

one object In yiew--regainins the
good graces. for professional reasons,
OF Morgan & Co. He then denied
again that he knew anything OF La
mars telephone representations OF
public men
"Mr. Lamar was my friend he
said, "and | realized that | had lost
my entire law practice because OF HIS
friendship for me. But | knew he
was honest | met him first In 1896
when ne represented the Gould and
Sage interests in the Manhattan Eie-
waited railroad at the time Banker
Kissell was trying 10 unite II with
the Metropolitan system
Mr. Lamar had done many honor
able things for me. lie got MIR. Rog-
ers or. H. OF Standard oil, TO be
my personal client, and | did many
big things for Mr.. Rogers as a result.
notably preventing tue Guggenheims
taking the American Smelling Co.
under their control In their own way.
Confirms Ledyard Interview.
"On Feb. s, | met Mr. Ledyard and
his story OF that first meeting Is sub
stantially correct. This meeting was
In his Office"
Iauterbach denied. however. that
he had admitted 10 Ledyard that
David Lamar was "blackmailer.
While he was reading, Lamar took a
seat al the left OF the witness and
followed closely his friends story
He had lost his care-free. joking ar,
and was evidently trifie worried.
| left Ledyard on Feb. with an
absolute disclaimer that ! represent
ed Senator Stone. Speaker Clark or
anyone else in authority. | want 10
say this absolutely and without any
mental reservations. That was the
exact state OF affairs on that date,
and Mr.. Ledyard's own story on the
stand confirms It,
Here Senator Reed broke In with:
did you tell Mr.. Ledyard that you
had gone TO Washington"
II did"
Did you tell Mr.. Ledyard that you
were satisfied that the Democratic
leaders did not want the steel inquiry
to proceed"
IT did not"
Did you tell him that you had told
Mr. Steele, OF Morgan & Co. that
President Taft was opposed TO the
steel trust inquiry. and you could
have-prevented IL If you had been his
Attorney"
II did tell him that" said the wit
ness.
Lauterbach tried TO go into an ex-
tended explanation OF this matter.
but was CURLY told by Senator Reed
ito answer only questions put to
him" The witness said he came TO
Washington to investigate the steel
inquiry at the request of II. Il. Mar
tin. head of the Antitrust league.
What Democratic leaders did you
see?" demanded Reed.
II saw none of them "
did you see a single man who had
an official position in Washington ?"
demanded Reed
Il did not"
Yet, you say you saw the leaders"
Well, got their position from
Mr. Martin"
Admits Exaggerated Story.
When you told Mr.. Ledyard that
you had looked the situation over
here. You told him falsehood?'
1T was an exaggeration.
1t was a falsehood?" retorted Reed
Well have ii your own way
Did you see President Taft or
anyone close TO him, while here?'
81 did not"
and your story OF his attitude.
when you told IT, was based on
WHAT"
ION matters told me by Mr. Lamar,
whom | saw when | went back to New
York"
Here, Reed took up the Lauterbach
connection with Martin, and. TO the
evident surprise of the committee.
Lauterbach said the first time he met
Martin was at his house a few days
ago. when Lamar brought him there.
He said that the meeting was a
casual one. and the only subject dis
cussed was his (Lauterbach's story
on the witness stand. last week.
seemed much confused
and Senator Reed had difficulty get
ting responsive answers 10 his ques-
tons
Lauterbach insisted that the meet
ing was brief and arranged without
his knowledge, and that the converse
ton was of no particular moment"