Norwich bulletin., 1913-06-20
General Manager of New Haven Road Says It is
 Impossible to Act on His Own Judgment
THE ENGINEERS PROTESTED AGAINST AN ORDER
Was Calculated Make Them Serve Longer Apprenticeship as Bremen He Says-Yclded to Them For Sake of
 Harmony-Omcal of Engineers Brotherhood Declares No Attempt Was Made to Force Rules the Company.

t~AA years, when that discipline is inflicted | it has got to stick. You cannot ex- pect if your division superintendents have not got the power to inf1lct and enforce discipline. that they are going to be able to enforce anything else. "That Has Got to Stop" "The labor organizations must un- derstand that the time has come when that has got to stop. The man is en- titled to fair treatment and we want him to have fair treatment but he must get it from tF-s man he is working for, and when he has got it from him, then he must stop or we must change our method of organization. We cannot go on here as we have been going on and maintain discipline. You cannot have an organization on that basis"
 Engineers Brotherhood Official.
 When Mir Bardo had concluded. F. s. Evans of New Haven. chairman of the committee of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers, was given per- mission to make statement He said:
 T would like to explain in regard to the statement made that the engineers committee protested against the bulle- tin notice put out by General Manager Pollock last October, making a limit of two years experience before engi- neers could run express trains. The protest was not made against the two years experience. as has been stated, but was made because of the manner in which the notice was posted, which changed the conditions of article 9, of the agreement, without complying with rule 3S, which required that 30 days notice should be given by either party if any change in the rules was desired. Experienced Engineers in Many Acci-
 ~dents.
 fo call engineers from the extra list in turn, to cover passenger service, pro- vided they were qtfadified. and as all our engineers are promoted from ire men who had served an apprenticeship Of from two to five and six years in passenger service. and in most cases through express service, they were well qualified to enter that service as en- gineefs and this understanding is borne out by the fact that no serious accident or mlishap has occurred to those promoted men. The accidents that have taken place on the New Haven road at Fairfield, Bridgeport neers had years of seniority and could not be charged with inexperience.
 No Objection Offered to Rule.
 'On Feb. 8, 1913. the 30 days notice was given the engineers committee by MT. Pollock, who then left the service of the New Haven road, MT. Bardo then coming to the road as general manager. The award of the arbitra- ton board having been decided, the committee met General Manager Bar do to amend the schedule, whie@ was done by adding a supplement in re- gard to rates and certain conditions of the award. and at that meeting the bulletin notice was discussed and the proposition made by the manager that 1 Ts1T1o hn aAn fA1 10 rJ1 of one years experience was mutually agreed to. the manager stating that this was satisfactory and move in the right direction. There was no ob- jection nor any antagonism and the committee met the request of the man agreements have been made between the company and its committee of en- gineers.
 Has Forced No Rules on Road.
 "The press editorially and otherwise have charged that the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers through their committee have forced the company to adopt rules and regulation which were detrimental to the safe operation of the road. That statement Is absolutely untrue. Neither the committee nor the organization has forced any rules on the road that would restrict safe op- eration. If an engineer is not quail fled, either by inexperience or ineff1cien- cy. to perform any. particular service. or has not thorough knowledge of the conditions he Is required to meet, no protest ever has or will be made by he engineers committee
 4 Finding in Two Weeks.
 Chairman McChord then announced the joint hearing adjourned. He said he hoped to have the finding ready within two weeks
 Coroner Phelan's inquest, which has been delayed on account of the in- quiry, will be resumed again tomorrow afternoon at two o'clock at Stam- ford.
 Pennsylvania R. R. Expert.
 Charles W. Martin. air brake in- spector in the Pennsylvania railroad was called. He was a clean-cut look ing man of 45 years and created a good impression by his frank and busi- nesslike manner. He was questioned by MT. Belnap.
 You were on this train during the experimental tests, MT. Martin ?" asked MT. Belnap.
 "Yes. sir" answered the witness.
 T want to ask you whether. from your inspection of that train and what you know of 1t, you would have per- rnitted # # to leave the Pennsylvania
 Mot on the Pennsylvania Limited" 1"
 'As matter of fact, would you have permitted 1t to leave as one of any of your fast through trains?"
 "No, I would not"
 Dohcrty Should Net Hsve Run Train.
 Mir. Martin described the auaiifea- tions required of engineers operating through passenger trains on the PenH- sylvania railroad. They must serve several years on through freight trains and are required to pass spe- ciai examination when about to be pros noted to a passengeF run. On their first trips they are also required te run their trains at first under the eye of road foreman of engines on the division over which they are te aPeF. ate.
 Ma. Martin was handed Fagtneer testimony aE t6 his service and prefn6tieH t6 passenger service, which Was given him aftep only about a year on freigfat trains:
 After FePusiHg it. Mir. He1naR asised him;
 After reading tha eHperieHee Mir; Deherty had, do yeu think he sfeuld have been placed in charge ef such 2
 "Ne. I Ae net" replsa ths expert.