The Detroit times., 1913-08-06
FORAKER SOBS
OUT DENIAL OF
MULHALL'SSTORY
Former Ohio Senator Specific In
DenOuncing Expos" In
Detail
POLITICAL ACTIVITIES IN
OHIO ALSO CAUSE RETORT
Veteran Legislator Only Witness
To Date Able To Issue De
NAL and Keep Temper

WASHINGTON. Aug DRIFTING
casually into a discussion o! old-time
political situations. talking in a dra"l-
ing. half-amused zone, former Senator
Joseph b Foraker. today, related the
history of his acquaintance with Maj
tin NJ. Mulhsn. former lobbyist for the
National Association OF Manufacture
ersC denying every one of MuIhaIi 5
statements which connected him With
the fortunes OF the y. 4 VI.
Foraker. the first Witness who has
been unable 10 deny Mulhalls testi-
mony and al the same time keep his
temper. referred 70 Mulhall as AN ex-
ceedlngly social chap, who wrote ar
dent letters. and really thought him
sell greater than anybody else did.
Instead OF calling Mulhall names, he
made the former squirm by referring
70 him in contemptuous tones Many
OF Mulhalrs illusions he dismissed
with the comment that the lobbyist
must have been grievously mistak-
en-" or was totally In error He
said. half apologetically. that he al
denied that Mulhall had ever attended
a secret conference OF Republican SEN
ators at his home. in January of 1909;
that Mulhall had ever come 10 Cincin-
natl TO canvass leading politicians as
10 their attitude toward his presiden-
tial candidacy; that he-Foraker-
had ever favored any y A VI legisla-
ton, or had ever helped the y a. VI.
In any way
Former Senator Foraker related his
connection with David Lamar. the
Wolf OF Wall-st" in the Union Pa
cific litigation in 1897 and In 1902.
He corroborated Lamar's testimony
that he acted as counsel for him IN
1902 to prevent Union Pacific stock
holders from voting Southern Pacific
stock. and said that in 1897. when the
Union Pacific was to be sold for S2s,-
900 600. he had declined 10 act as coun-
sci for Lamar in forcing the re-organ-
ization committee TO sell IL at higher
figure. Instead, he said, he had
brought the matter 10 the attention CT
Attorney General McKenna. and the
latter had forced the sale at S5S,00O,'
900. and the payment OF the entire
debt which the railroad owed the gov
eminent.
Denies Lobbyists Assistance.
Foraker said he had not direct
knowledge of Mulhalls activity in his
behalf. though ne had known him fol
80 years.
The witness denied ever being a
candidate for the presidency in 1907
I'VE didn't want the man nominated
who later was" he explained. II did
accept Mulhall's offer 10 have 10 Bal
timore labor organizations endorse me
as a presidential candidate.
Nothing came OF this. Foraker said
until after Taft was nominated
when Mulhall wrote telling him how
important a part he had played in the
nomination. In this letter Foraker
said Mulhal for the first time used the
expression. the work you have done
for our people"
II never did any work for those peo
pie" said Foraker. emphatically
Il nearly always opposed what they
wanted or course. before We got sc
good as we are now, | used TO be glad
and stop to talk TO anybody who want
ed to speak TO me"
Foraker said the publication OF let
tiers in 1908, showing his connection
with the society, had destroyed his
chances for reelection
II didn't withdraw from the race.
he said. because by doing so, would
have confessed to wrong doing. There
was no secret in that matter and /
never tried to keep II from anybody.