Arizona republican., 1913-12-12
Peculiar Intermingling of Constituencies Brought Out at Meeting in Super intendent Loper's Office Last Night
CIVIC CENTER AND
 ROAD BOOSTERS
And Probability of Holding Joint Bond Election on Questions Might Provide Mutual Support of One for the Other

Tor the Other
 Road bonds, civic center purchase bonds, the commission form of gov ernment and many other issues of far-reaching importance were earnest Iy. but good naturedly, discussed at called meeting of representatives of the Non Partisan Taxpayers league, the board of supervisors, the city school trustees and the city council in Superintendent John D. Loper's office last night. The peculiar inter mingling of constituencies and there fore of issues, the tangle of facts and figures resulting from the fact that there are three bodies to consider the important questions regarding the civic center and road bonds, was the cause of an earnest argument all members taking part The main question at issue was that of the ad- visibility of holding the county and civic center bond election before, the same day or after the vote on the road bonds. Lin Orme, representing the supervisors, and William $. Hum bert, chairman of the advisory high ways committee, though both strong advocates of the civic center, feared that if that issue were placed before the people while the road matter hung in the balance the latter would be endangered. C. J. McElroy, of the city council, was a strong advocate of holding the two elections together. not only for economic reasons, but because the issues would provide mutual support before the sovereign people.
 The meeting was presided over by Dwight B. Heard, and was entirely informal The arrival of MT. McElroy plunged the meeting into a spirited discussion as to whether or not it is advisable to connect the two bond elections as proposed. McElroy con- tended it was to the advantage of each. and that it was more economical to hold the elections at the same time. Messrs. Orme and Humbert, who have been engaged in holding meet ings all over the county on the sub ject of good roads bonds, were opposed to the connection of the issues. though each agreeing the civic center plan was good and important one and must be carried through.
 Orme's plea for a right of way for
  rather oratorical. No one has worked harder on the good roads plan than this member of the board of super visors. and he was confident he saw boulders ahead in the combination of the two bond matters. He spoke briefly. asking that the county be all lowed to get the roads bonds across before being asked to take up any bo,, bond
 Not that I fear for the safety of either measure. but simply because We want to be entirely sure of sue cess of that for which we have worked so hard. Success is nearly in our grasp now, and, although there really is a sort of opposition to the roads bonds, we can easily overcome it if we have time to devote our undivided attention to this point. This opositiOn is not active, but merely passive. We have had to de- vote great deal of time to eXplana- tions of the roads bonds, so as to leave no impression of doubt in the minds of the voters, and if you add this civic center proposition to our burden, We may not be able to carry it Besides the roads meetings have already been in progress. We have already held fifteen meetings this week"
 There is another peculiar situation in connection with this. It lies in the of three public entities the city, the county and the school district-one on the other and another on both. Taxpayers and mere ciu- zens: members of the school district all these are concerned in the cleo able to vote on bonds. some on other issues in connection.
 The result of the meeting was the appointment of a committee composed of Claude Cisney of the council, Sims Ely of the school board and Dwight B. Heard, to consult with the board of supervisors regarding holding the elections together on the day the city votes on the new city commission. McElroy. Cisney and McDermitt be- lieved the day favorable on account of the large crowd that would be out to vote.
 People are willing to vote more than once if they once get out for that purpose" said McDermitt.
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