New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-09-26

The testimony Of Mr. Schiff was the
most interesting md, in the opinion OF the
Assembly managers. far the most impor-
tant OF that taken at the afternoon SEES
sion Of court lie WAS recalled by counsel
IL the managers in an effort TO have him
give more definite information about the
purpose Of his contribution 10 Mr.. Sui
yer. II was not until various Senate
members Of the court had taken hand
in this examination that the testimony
about the attempt of the Governors for
mer parner TO repay the $500 came out
Mfr Schif was called near the end OF
the day. Ex-senator Bracket, for the
managers, asked him about the visit OF
SuIzer 10 his office. seeking to have him
say that the check was given rs cam
paien contribution and for no other pur-
pose lie said that he had never given
Mr.. Sulzer any checks before. so far as he
could recollect
WAS Il given 10 him for the reason
that he was a candidate for Governor"
asked Bracket.
Il suppose II he had not been candi-
date for Governor that such discussion
would not have come up at all"
And the check would not have been
Civen?'
Il don't know about that. ! think that
II Governor Sulzer had come to me at any
time for a check for $500 would have
given IT to him"
Bracket asked that this answer be
stricken out as not responsive, starting
"a LAWYERS rumpus, which finally ended
III tho ruling Of President Cullen that
the witness answers he doesn't know"
Then Bracket asked him If he had
heard Of any change of circumstances OF
Sulzer previous to the giving Of the check,
except his nomination. Schitf did not
grasp the point OF the question and asked
what was meant by circumstances"
Tells Why II Was Only $500.
Whether he had suffered reverses or
troubles Of any kind. except his nomina-
ton" explained Bracket
The witness said he had not. He an
swered further that he knew Sulzer was
member Of Congress. drawing a salary.
He repeated that the notation on the face
Of the check, Mr.. Schiff's contribution 10
Mr.. Suffers campaign expenses was I'm
his own handwriting. He explained that
this was done when he surrendered the
check TO the counsel for the Frawley com
mittee, so the check, which was one OF
Kuhn. Loeb & Cos. would not be mis-
taken for an expenditure Of the FIRMS
money. The amount had been charged TO
his personal account on the firms books
he said.
Finally Mr. Bracket asked why Mr.
Schif had said yesterday that he would
not give the candidate more than $4,000.
Il told him that some time before he
was nominated Mr. Kresel and Mr.. Elm
stein. an attorney. Of New York. had
called on me and asked me TO interest
myself in Mr. Strauss campaign. and
said i would provided Mr., Sulzer
was not nominated. since II Mr.. Sulzer
VAS nominated I would have TO vote for
Mr. Sulzer. because I thought he was en-
titled TO my support, and that had given
81 900 TO NJ. Kresel and Mr.. Einstein for
the strsus campaign. and as probably
would not get that back I couldn't give
him any more"
Answering questions by various sena-
tors. Mr.. Schiff said the phrase cam
paign expenses written on the check
was Just a mode OF expression. hur-
riedly made note Of expression" which
lie wrote ION my own inspiration. you
might say" lie said that the 5000 he
gave TO the Straus fund was for cam
IaiRn expenses.
How. then. do you dfferentiate be-
tween the contribution 10 Straus and the
contribution 10 the Sulzer campaign or
20 Governor sulzer?" asked Senator wal
ters.
81 don't dnerentate," answered Mr.
schif. "Mr straus might have used that
81 600 for whatever he pleased"
liked II He Would Take Money Back.
Snator Foley. who represents in the
Senate the district i'm which G. r Muir
ply lives. then began a cross-examina-
ton. lie asked Mr.. Schin II he had seen
Sulzer I'm the last two months, since the
campaign check had been matter OF
public knowledge. Mr.. Schiff said the
Governor. through his secretary. had IN
yited him TO Albany. but he declined the