The Washington times., 1913-06-04
SENATORS SUMMON
LOBBY WITNESSES
Stephenson Of Wisconsin, Is
Star Witness at Hearing on
interests Agents.
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lawyer.
Were against him." said Senator
Senator" said Senator Reed, you'll
not help yourself with this committee
By that
Not Opposed To Them.
I'm not opposed to lawyers said
Senator Stephenson, but think they're
a necessary evil"
He thought there was much less lob
Dying now than before. The most
Lobbying now was by Democrats who
wanted postoffices.
The Senator told how he had been IN
the lumber business since eleven years.
when he started as cookie.
He had TO explain to the committee
that this was a cook.
Il wasn't very good cook then,' he
But Senator Reed asked If he had be-
come good cook.
"Yes, / did I can cook a good meal
today. I can bake good bread yet"
That's more than some women can
do" said Senator Nelson.
Large Lumber Holdings.
Senator Stephenson said his lumber
holdings were more than $4,000 acres. As
70 the extent Of his farm holdings. he
raised q laugh when Senator Nelson
asked II his farm properties were
greater than his own.
Il have half a dozen little ones bigger
han his, 3, said Senator Stephenson.
The Wisconsin Senator proudly al.
uded to his various farms and to
Pauline Wayne. Senator Reed asked Il
he had taken Pauline Wayne back be-
cause Tan was beaten.
The President told me he was going
10 live In hotel. and asked me to take
the cow back. and did," said Sem
ator stephenson.
The multimillionaries of the Senate. said
ne owned lands in Nevada, California.
Maryland, and the District of Column
bia. He was not interested in sugar or
WOOL. He was interested in a soda
works in California
Senator Newlands told the committee
ne did not believe in tariff that pro-
tected .shotheuse industries" In this
LIT he included wool, cane sugar. and
several Others
anything affected by the tariff bill, SO
faf as know. said Senator Newiands.
Saw Great Many Men.
II have seen great many men with
reference to- this bill.'' said he. My
doors swing open pretty easily. 4 do
NOT rememher many Names
Senator Newlands mentioned Judge
Cowon; pr. Mcclure. and several others
ne had seen -
Il also saw Claus Spreckels. OF the
National Refining Company" said he.
lies {cr free sugar. isn't hep asked
He is." replied Senator Newlands.
Ae vent ON to tell about mis- talk with
s1reckels, and said the latter mad been
n!nnng for free sugar for years.
snink ne told me he sent out card
sefar said Senator Newlands.
senator Nelson questioned Senator
Newlands closely as to whether
spreckels had not misrepresented the
was not positive about this.
senator Newiaiids went on to make
al argument for proceeding with greac
denoerauon on sugar. He alluded TO
the Brussels conference. and pointed
out the countries of Europe considered
sugar of sufficient Importance to send
their - ,iornats 10 deal with it.
was plainly opposed to free sugar
"a In favor of building up the sugar
beet Industry.
s-Don't you regard the sugar beet and
Alfalfa as the two most important
cfops Of the semi-arid region?" asked
SENATOR Nelson.
Favors Protection.
II do" said Senator Newlands. At
the same time Senator Newlands said
he was not a protect1onist, but believed
III y dQudl IcQuCltOu Oh duties 10 cor
rect abuses which had grown up under
Senator Newlands declared he regard
ed the success of the irrigation system
as In q measure dependent on building
up the sugar beet business. He said.
Questioned by Senator Nelson. that Le
thought Government aid to reclamation
"a. be different from aid by tariff. The
Senator and members of the committee
proceeded to talk tariff at length.
Benator Newiands mentioned Judge
Ballou, of Hawaii, who was here on
sugar; Henry T. Oxnard, and several
otkers whom he had seen.
The witness said proper arguments
mad been made to him.
Some one representing Hawaii
rsssen % q p my relations e to It the Stands
said he. Il think IL was entirely prop
er as had been in a measure respon-
sibis for the annexation Of the
islands"
Domestic Sugar Interests.
He thought the domestic, sugar
pfoduces had an association which
inenrred more or less expense, but
ne did not know details.
II do not know of any lobby main
aimed IN Washington or elsewhere
. Influence legislation now pending
5efore Congress-
i came To Congress twenty years
Ego. Then one occasionally saw a
nan whose business was said to be
hat OF lobbyist I think that men
of that type have largely disappear
He said he would not term a man
who approached him legitimately on
legislative business lobbyist.
Mr.. Spreckels is a very candid man.
He made no secret of the fact the
redneries are interested in free
sugar" said Senator Nexlands. in an
swer to questions by Senator Walss.
about the visit of Charles Spreckels.
What's his address," asked Senator
Overman.
..somewhere in New York" said the
Witness
Senator Newla3ds thought the inter-
csts Of the Spreckels family had dinin-
shed In Hawaii. He thought Claus
Spreckeis was chiefly interested in the
refining business, Independent of the
trust
Less outside representation here
than In other adjustments of the
tariff" was the view Of Senator New
iaeds.
Senator Penrose presented the COM
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