The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1913-09-12
Both Mccall and Mitchell Men
Expect to Gain
Votes.
THIRD TICKET Is LIKELY
Ridder, Wilcox and McAneny
Mentioned as Mayors
Successor.

Inc Oeatu OI MdSOT odNHOT CVUipteteiS
changes the political fight in New York
! At first glance the situation is very much
| simplihed. Many politicians. however.
| fear that conditions are most complex and
| that the outlook is more confusing than
| ever.
Putting the situation In brief. the
| Mayors death produces these changes:
! The man whom politicians have regarded
as the second man or possibly the victor
, in the race is gone.
The riddle which has vexed the fusion
committee. namely the question whether
Mr. McAneny, Mr.. Prendergast and the
other fusion nominees should go on the
Gaynor ticket. Is partly solved.
! Tammany men say that at least half.
possibly two-thirds. OF the Mayors support
will pass to Judge Mccall, despite the
fact that they have said that three
! quar- of the Mayors vote would be
drawn from Mitchell.
The fusionists say that the issue IL
now clear between Tammany Hall and
| fusion. the effect Of which will be to the
| advantage OF John Purroy Mitchell.
| These estimates are predicated on the
assumption that there will be no sue
cessor to Mayor Gaynor on the non fusion
! anti-Tammany slate. There are many
men. however. who assume that such will
not be the case.
| others May Make Race. 8.
| The names OF Herman Bidder. William
! r. Wilcox. ex-chairman Of the Public
Service Commission: George McAneny.
! fusion candidate for President of the Board
! OF Aldermen. and others were mentioned.
Gaynor committeeman were quite unwiil-
| ing to discuss their plans yesterday.
! This is no time to talk politics" said
! Fire Commissioner Johnson. manager Of
! the GaNnor campaign. yesterday after
! noon. I'm the face Of this great loss We
/ are una bl. to look the situation honestly
| in the face. W. will let a few days pass
and then be able to tell what We will do"
| But it was apparent on all sides that
! the elimination of the third ticket Is by
| no means certain. T. Ross Appleton,
chairman Of the Gaynor committee. who
| is now at Saranac Lake. painted toward
| Herman Kdder
| MI Bidder would make AN ideal cam
didate to replace Mayor Gaynor." said
| Mr. Appleton. but II is impOss ibe to
think OF politics now with the Mayor
gone
! Herman Ridder. on the other hand.
could only feel that the independent
NOV cment was over
81 feel like retiring altogether" he
said. 1T seemed to me that the per-
sonality Of Mayor Gaynor was the whole
! strength Of the movement. With HIM gone
the movement is gone But YOU must
un ierstand that | have talked with no
others
| Were to Have Conference.
! Fire Commissioner Johnson and Jacob
! II. Schir intended To have a conference
! Yesterday morning with Borough Presi-
dent McAneny and Mr.. Prendergast on
| the question OF whether the fusion can
| didates should go on the Gaynor ticket.
Mr.. SchiG sent word to Mr.. McAneny on
| Wednesday night asking the two fusion
| candidates 10 meet him. Mr., Mc.\neny
arranged meeting at the office Of the
Commissioner Of Public Works in the
Park Row Building.
| Mr.. johnson and Mr.. Schiff were
already there Yesterday morning when
, Mr. Nc oAneny arrived. RumOrs had
reached them that the Mavor had died
at sea MIR. McAneny came Ia and CON
firmed the bad news.
| Commissioner Johnson said 'My
God. Then it's true" and then this con-
ference was adjourned immediately.
! Later in the day the fusion leaders
met In Mr.. McAncny's Office In tile City
Hall-Norman Hapgood. Joseph NJ. Price.
Comptroller Pre- ndergast and Samuel s,
| Koenig, pre- sident OF the Republican
county committee. They rehearsed the
incidents Of the campaign which produced
the riddle which Mayor Gaynor's death
partly solved
The men at Mr. McAneny's Once
agreed that the situation In now thrown
back to the time when Mr.. Mitchell sent
his letter to the leaguers. They feel tnat
! Mr.. Mitchell IN still free to go on the
league ticket II he gets chance even
though the corDllary situation OF Mr. Nc
Aneny and Mr.. Prendergast In In a
measure cleared up. Mr.. McAneny said :
| II can simply call attention to the
fact that I advised Mr. Mitchell at the
time he wrote the letter TO the lnde-
| pendence League not to decline the
| designation. and he was relieved Of any
obligation. We have not changed our
minds since
| Future Of Ticket.
In the back of the minds Of fusionists
, and Tammany men alike was the great
question OF whether the Gaynor ticket
IL to be continued. Michael Furst a
member Of the Gaynor committee from
Brooklyn. said that the Gaynor mon that
he knew would not think Of Mitchell for
a moment.
| "Does that mean new man at the
head Of the third ticket?" he was asked.
THAT 10 my idea exactly" he said. II
am sure the whole league would be be-
hind such a movement"
| Republican leaders are sure that. the
third ticket IL not dead, Mr.. Ridder to
the contrary notwithstanding. Republic
can conservatives who intended to vote
under the shovel were asking one another
yesterday what they should do To vote
for Mitchell was impossible.
Many OF them turned toward Judge
I Mccall, but with . reluctance bred OF
long hatred Of Tammany Hail. Ex-Pub-
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