Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1913-07-30

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Senator Walsh. Bear In mind, Gov
ernor, that have not asked anything
about what anybody has told anybody.
l have asked you whether in your ef-
forts here yourself to influence the
public mind you have come in contact
with any other similar movement on
| the other side of the question operat-
ing to procure sugar to be placed upon
the free list.
Mr.. Carter. Why, all can say is
that gentleman introduced me at the
| Willard to Mr.. Lowry, who is suppos-
ed to represent the Federal Sugar Re-
| finery and who has conducted this
campaign for some little time. After
| the introduction and we had left he
said: Now, that is the gentleman who
| has been conducting this campaign for
the last two years that has been so
detrimental, or which has been oppos-
ed to US"
senator Cummins What campaign
are you speaking Of? Define It. DO
not think you have given it 70 US.
Mr.. Carter. I only know in q gem
eral way that there has been CAM
paign going on by the refners and cir
culars sent out. Some OF them have
been filed here.
Senator Cummins. For what?
Mr.. Carter. For free sugar.
Senator Walsh. You met him at the
| Willard Hotel?
Mr.. Carter. Yes; was introduced
to him.
Senator Walsh. Do you know OF
J any Office or headquarters, such as
yours in the Colorado Building, which
| is operated here or managed or con.
trclled by Mr.. Lowry or anybody else
! for the purpose Of carrying on that
propaganda?
Mr.. Carter Yes.
Senator Walsh. Where?
Mr. Carter. Your question included
anybody else, and ] have called on
/ Mr.. Palmer number Of times at the
| Union Trust Co. Building, headquar-
tiers for the statistics in regard to
beet-sugar culture.
Senator Walsh. Is he arguing and
endeavoring to induce the public mind
to accept the idea of free sugar?
Mr.. Carter. Oh. no; but, II I'M
derstand your question, you asked me
If l knew of M. Lowry's headquar-
tiers or any other headquarters main
tained here in regard to sugar.
Senator Walsh. understood you
awhile ago that the beet-sugar people
were working in conjunction with you.
Mr. Carter. They are.
Senator Walsh. Now, am asking
you about anybody who was working
| In antagonism to you.
Mr. Carter. do not know OF any
Office here.
Senator Walsh. Can you give the
committee any information about any
| body who seems to be interested in a
free-sugar propaganda other than Mr..
Lowry?
Mr. Carter. Yes; Mr.. Spreckels, the
| president OF the Federal Refining Co.,
was down here the other day, and dur
| ing q social call was making was
| told of q conversation of his with q
lady that showed he was In favor OF
| free sugar. He has maintained that
| he made money in operating his SUI
gar plantation in Hawaii under free
trade conditions, but he did not say
that he bought sugar plantation I'M
| der free-trade conditions and sold II
under protection conditions, and that
is the way he made his money, very
largely.
Senator Walsh. Did you meet Mr..
Spreckels here?
Mr.. Carter. No; have not met
lhim. The Spreckeis interests have
not, you might say, been very popular
| in Hawaii. Mr.. Spreckels Sr. said
when he left Hawaii last that he
would see that the grass grew in the
streets of Honolulu; but 1t has not
laone so yet, but this bill may make
that happen.
Senator Walsh. The old gentleman
has been dead for some years
MIR. Carter Yes.
Senator Walsh. How long?
Mr.. Carter. / think five or six
Years.
Senator Walsh. Do you remember
lhow long before his death 1t was that
The made this remark?
| Mr.. Carter No; it was some time,
because he left Hawaii and did not
leone back for some years. His sons
inherited his interests there, and il
Twas Mr.. Baldwin, first Mr.. Castle. and
then Mr.. Baldwin and Mr.. Alexandei
THAT bought him out. He found when
The came into San Francisco meeting
of the Hawaiian Commercial & Sugar
leo. that those gentlemen held control
Of the stock and he surrendered to
them. They bought him out.
Senator Walsh You are not able
lthen, to tell us about the activities Of
Mr.. Spreckels here tn Washington
4 Mr.. Carter. No; only that he was
mere discussing the matter, and Their
There was an editorial that appeared
in one of the papers, but we did noi
know whether it was inspired by him
Senator Walsh. In what paper wa:
THAT?
Mr.. Carter. In the Times.
| Senator Walsh That was on the
Isugar tariff?
Mr.. Carter. Yes.
Senator Wash. There were two o
those editorials. were there not?
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