Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-06-10
TELLS OF FIGHT
ON FREE SUGAR
Former Gov. Carter of Hawai-;
Appears Before Lobby
Investigators.
ABOUT 100000 SPENT
BY THE PRODUCERS
Witness Declares He Was Denied
the Right to See Presi-
dent Wilson.

dent Wilson.
rofiner members OF Congress ATTORNEYS
ana others who have represented special
interests In Washington continued testi-
hiohs today before the special senate
committee in search of the lobby
FORMER Gov Carter of Hawaii testified
mat he came to Washington TO give IN
formation about sugar that he had been
sent by the Honolulu Chamber OF COM
merce and was serving without remuner-
auon Harry Irwin. he said had been
sent by the Hilo Board of Trade. MIR.
Bailou had been sent by the Hawaiian
Sugar Planters Association.
He said he had prepared brief, talked
with senators and tried to see the Pres-
dent. He testified that he maintained
onces with a stenographer and a clerk.
from which newspaper advertisements
ana bulletins We're prepared and sub
mitted to a committee in New York rep
resenting Hawaiian sugar factories. The
New York men disapproved several ad-
vertisements prepared here he said.
Have Spent Nearly 100000.
Carter testified that the domestic sugar
producers working in Washington took in
everybody raising sugar under the
American flag" and had spent some
thing less than S1W.O0." in their fight
A Mr.. Mead handled the money.
IF we had paid out sSpoOu We would
consider 1t we'll spent il We could save
the ss2.UWUUO invested" said he. We
propose to keep some one here to con
ilnue the fight as long as the right OF
free speech exists" As for himself. he
said he had done little more i'm Washing
ton tnan prepare brief.
Tries to See President.
| II called at the White House and tried
| to make an arrangement 10 see the Pres
ident. His secretary told me the Pres-
| dents mind made up, that il would
be useless to see him and denied me tn.
right to him. 4 then asked TO see
him an individual. ana l will see
| him next week before / leave.
I'm your activities have you enooun-
| tered anybody working in behalf of the
! mIttee.
| Ave consider that We represent the
consumer we'll as the producer.
Paid Salary of $4,000.
Mr. Carter said Sidney C. Ballou. who
mad been Frequently mentioned by sen
ators as one of the anti-iree sugar
men who had called on them, was paid
| a salary of $4,000 Ia stay in Wash
ngton and looE after Hawaiian COM
mercial interests. Coy. Carter said he
had about $4,000 worth oi sugar stock
and was worth about sl0V.ooo.
! Gov. Carter IL response ~ questions
/ by Senator Cummins SAID he had acted
openly in all he had done regarding
the sugar schedule
Il would moi 40 anything secretly,
!! ne said.
Sympathy Extended.
| Mr. Carter named three senators a.
having expressed sympathy with those
. who sought duty on sugar, but who
| said they must be bound by the party
| decision and vote for the Underwood
bill Senators Swanson and Lewis. he
said. had expressed their sympathy 20
him personally. and Ser>tor Williams.
chairman OF the subcommittee tnat
dealt with sugar. had tua a friend he
held the same view.
Mr. Carter said Secretary Lane had in
formed him that the question was
legislative matter and the administration
had nothing to do with 1t.
II called up here, he added. "and
| they told me it was an executive matter
| and that they had nothing to do with it.
Admit Interest, Deny Impropriety.
| The investigating committee yesterday
afternoon had before il some of the at
/ legged lobbyists who arc said to have been
busy influencing the legislation in Wash
| ington One former senator and four
| former representatives were questioned
| They all admitted more or less interest in
| legislation but none would say that he
considered his cause unjust or that he
| had done anything improper. They de-
clared their work had been done in the
open and consisted mostly in filing briefs
before committees and arranging TOT
hearing for their employers.
Former Senator Charles j. Faulkner OF
| West Virginia was the first witness from
the outside. He told the committee ne
| represented twenty-five of the pig ran
roads of the country and had represented
them here for many years.
I'm Justice to myself and the railroads,
said Mr.. Faulkner. Il Will say that
know OF no lobby that mas ever been
brought here I'm reference to railroad
matters at any time for the purpose OF
influencing members of Congress.
Senator Cummins said that Mr.. Faux
| ner had appeared four or hve times be-
| fore him and that the questions at Issue
| had been argued out as they would IN
court.
The other congressional witnesses were
| ]. A. r. Hull OF Iowa. a. W. kopp OF
WISCONSIN, Charles s Bennet of New
Represents Manufacturers.
Mr.. Hull said he had been out of Con-
gress for two years and had been in
Washington most OF the time since He
had represented an association of corn
nroducts manufacturers in which four
teen concerns were interested In connec-
ZION with the pending tariff bill. present
ing his case by filing briefs with the
House WAYS anu means committee and
sanding letters to senators. He had talk
"a with Senator Cummins because he
was familiar with the duties In which he
was interested
AR Hull said he had been Interested
also i'm legislation for the Veterinarian
Association OF the United states. which
wished to obtain commissioned ranking
for it's members in the army FOR MI
Baker of Philadelphia, who was inter
ested i'm the duty on cocoanuts. and for
representatives of the government of Ec-
to Investigate sanitary conditions there.
He also figured in legislation affecting
the telephone company in the District OF
Columbia
Mr.. Kopp Explains Activity.
Mr. Kopp declared he had spent proba-
blv three weeks in Washington shortly
after his retirement from Congress in
March Although he had once Sfclineo,
he said at the earnest solicit3ion OF
people in his home district, he had eoaAs