The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1913-07-02
LAMAR STARTLES
 SENATE COMMITTEE
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June oO, l9OO. BuL between LndI LIIn0 and June 30, 1901, he alleged, some one had erased the $82,000,0OO item from one side of the ledger, leaving it as a credit balance on the other side.
 They took all the securities of the Oregon short line and the Oregon Railway Navigation" he said, ''and used them as security for an issue on bonds. They got more money and used it to influence the deal for the Union Pacific and other transactions and the Notation of Great Northern Ore properties, which they sold out at an enormous profit"
 Later. Lamar alleges, the principals in the transaction went to Kuhn, Loeb 6 Company and secretly got nearly $200,O00,000 which he believed was for their own use.
 Lamar testified he used the name of Representative Daniel J. Riord dan, of New York, te1ephoning to Chair man Llovett, of the Union Pacific.
 How did you happen to use MT. Riordan's name?' asked Senator Cum nlins. 'sOh. it just came to me- said MT. Lamar.
 ''Insplration?' suggested MT. Mel son.
 Purely, said MT. Lamar.
 On another occasion, Lamar testified he called up Paul D. Cravath, of counsel for the Union Pacific, sug- gesting Lauterbach would be a valu- able adviser.
 MT. Cravath will probably recog- nize my voice. remarked the witness, smiling at MT. Cravath who sat near by. When I talked to him gave no name.''
 MT. Cravath nodded. On another occasion, Lamar testified, he talked over the telephone to Lewis Cass Led yard using Representative Palmer's nd Mav well Tfs iT7o Representative Riordan's name. Tn both conversations he spoke about L.auterbach's services.
 Senator Nelson insisted that Lamar testify explicitly whether he stated in those conversations that Lauter- bach had influence in Washington with officials, Senators or Representatives.
 'I am inclined to believe that in my conversations with MT. Ledyard I went very far in that direction on the affirmative eide,'' returned Lamar. Why, did you change to PalTner'e name instead of sticking to Rior- dan's?'' demanded Senator Nelson
 well. MT. Palmer was very much in the public eye then as one who would have great influence at Washington with the incoming Democratic admin istratfon,' replied Lamar. He added that he did not know Palmer and had no authority to use his name.
 Lamar said that the late J. P. Nor gan's opposition to Isauterbach caused him to tell Ledyard. using the name of Palmer, to try and win his confi- dence and find out who had ostraciz- ed Izauterbach.
 ''I found out it was Ledyard him. se1f,'' said Lamar. He added he knew Ledyard had a stenographer on the line making a record of the talk T read everything into it could, g said Lamar, "I think I offered him the en- T 1aft fh6 President out-''
 Lamar set the committee into laugh ter with his story of how he imper- sonated Palmer; lectured Ledyard be cause he did not go to church, and told what remarkable things Lauter- Morgan firm.
 1T told him that the defiant atti- tude of the Morgan firm toward the Democratic administration in Congress had much to do with the decline in the value of Morgan securities con tinued Lamar. ''I called attention to the money trust and other investiga- tfons and urged MT. Ledyard to employ Lauterbac
 You were trying to convince Led yard that Lauterbach was a sort of John the Baptist for the Morgan firm suggested Senator Nelson. That's ex- actly it." returned Lamar. Then I called up MT. Palmer's office in Wash ington," said Lamar with a. smile, land found he would be in Bethlehem, Pa, on the next Sunday. Then I called MT Ledyard and told him to call Palmer there. I had done all I want ed to; gotten an interview for 1aut- erbach with Ledyard and didn't want MT. Palmer injured. I wanted to clear the atmosphere and prevent possible scandal for Palmer'
 The deception was revealed to Palmer and Ledyard that Sunday.
 Senator Cunmins questioned Lamar sharply and in the exchange the wit ness testified he was Q. Methodist and that Lamar was not his original name He declined to give that
 '1 have had several names" he said
 Before MT. Lamar left the stand, Mr. Cravath demanded to know where Lamar got his information about the alleged Union Pacific forgery. Lamar replied he did not secure full infor- nation until recently. The first sug- gestion came from Thomas Gibson, a financial writer in New York.
 Paul D. Cravath, counsel for the Union Pacific, in a. prepared state- unent, today, to the Senate lobby com mittee, declared David Lamar's charge of a forgery, covering $82, 900, 900 on the Union Pacific books, was part of a bear attack on Union Pacific stock of which the railroad officials had had Knowledge for several days.