The sun., 1913-10-30


mcnt 'h., m,Hrl nothing with well. |
'cJVr hi.i 10 rou. colonel aud OFT his
d.p.rturc NJ t'uvcrsagt is quoted as
s%a;,,s % .. .,... ...,,,..
ron, YOU Ita' statement can h. made
30 ,ha, 'op simply say that >ou know
that g" the rest OF the statement
being cr'ittcd iron, the notes.
r." conversation that e sued was az :"
now the pardon VA - a@ delivered and
no confession tV-n"d 'u Idc fear seemed
10 ~ un >'lVciis part tina. some man
would oc son, down with til" pardon.
receive the Confession and keep the par
don fhart had been some reference made
10 s.niiiii dstrds; or the part Of the
authorities at Aibany. AZ which Stilweh
sad most Indignantly
II; wdS a most insulting thing for him
20 regard the matter tina. way
%rcumcnt over Messenger.
rncrc wa AN argument then As to who
should bring the pardon down ard who
should rc,iv the confession. Evidently
Mr. | nNorSact wanted Stilwcu To- rut
soin,ih.pg in writing ~ tho interview.
durns which the following is reported:
Stilwcil l. You know I can't give all this
data nov.
rnycrsagt course YOU can't II
know you cant. soc what Is back Of It.
All W. want t" know Is To make sure that
you've got IN" goods. Don't YOU soc"
Now they are -oinr to send their man
down :" YOU Whether he knows any
thing ahou, it or not don't know.
There was an interruption in trans
mission according TO tn. report after
which NJ. tns ersagt is reported as say
ing
"rhey don, know that il will be just
statement a. to what you can tell de-
pending on yotr release. ! told them. 80
that ,ou are tho connecting link
S'ilwell--W What will this man they're
sending know ,bou, this thing?
Mr. tuvcrsag' full reply is not given.
but further down Stilwell is reported AS
saying
"Mayhc they will send fienncssy down"
Hcnncsuy Mentioned.
That's good suggestion" Col. Anlory
as reported as saying. Say. that is the
fellow.
: Cu,,rsac, II wouldn't Ne surprised
! wouldn't question but that he will be
fhc man that will come down. But wait
minute. IL is NJ" understanding that
there Is not going to be any disappoint-
irc't ahead ri YOU OF any Kind. They've
got 20 explain everything that IS not
clear 20 you I made tha; plain. The
best thing .o- YOU 10 do is to put the
thin; IN writing. and then you can be
sure
There Vas an argument then 70
putting any thing ~ writing. Something
ras to be sent t. New York city that
might 20 hc copied Then, when Il had
been apparently agreed tha, the par
don VAS 10 come and the s.atemcn,
was 80 h' n.,de, the following conversation
IL rcported
S,ilwcll --'rol me this Charlie. can,
that pardon he dated August -, SO there
will hc no question about IL:
tnNersaGt Why
Stiluo!l why. So they can't raise any
question about it. II Murphy should
rou>c amy trouhc. you see. the court
Nould stand for II.
Cnvct sait---Wcll, We will try that. |
don't rccull.ct what date il really is. be-
cause | never looked at L.
S'.lwell--WcN, want everything
right - that there will be no trouble
about It
rnversIg g--Thcre viii he no question.
>uIw-II sim In Doubt.
s,lwcll Then Murphy cant raise any
question Il t Is dated tho twelfth. Then
il il IL datcl af'cr that date he could
reiatc il. he coulL put that IL on it,
Unycrsagt But there is no question
il, my mind that everything will be all
right
Stilwcil / don't want to Civ. the other
side any chance to get me back. don't
want to bc placed in position where
can wall; out of h'rc and lie able TO
stick with the Governor. | viii tell
what I'm gong to do when he comes
down. I'm going IN shou hou tho ,'nmr,
of Appcals
t'n,crsar, Iaskcd ,h,cc .Iudpos,beo,be-
day about that. ono OF them was Judge q
J-vcr iuno, linn Ue ,s . fin, f,iIon
rh.n ,hcr, w.s Iud,c r. bc ,s . rro
fe,,ow-.auJ ,horo ucrc tvo other Law
ycr. ope of ,hc,u VA. There ucro
three Judges and three lawyers cf course
,hc, uidr,, know, .r,tbi,,v ..hovt ,h,s
n,.,,or -. did rn, ,,a,,,,o, ,,,,,,,tn
- ,ha, ,ou,.ctio, I'm, ..koJ ,h.n,
.. " and thc> Sa'd ahsolu,ely not-tha,
r,rdnn cou,d never hc unset bv ary
person on carth. and that II they should
attempt to cancel any of the Governors
acts. Why chaos would result in case
like this before anything could he done
VVoN'"" wv ''"""'c'
The conversation thereafter for some
lime was as TO the rossihlity of trouble
from, . par,]on issued hv GOV. Sulzer.
thcn under charges. and what possible
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