New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-09-18
.DOUBLE-HEADER TRAINS
BAS|SOF WAGE DEMAND
Witness for Men Holds Risk and
Responsibility Are as Great
as On Western Roads.
MORE FACTS ON DIRECTORS
Statistical Expert Under Severe
Cross Examination Says He
Arrived at His Conclu-
sions by Deduction.

A number Of tables accompanied by
diagrams were admitted yesterday at tho
hearings of the arbitration board by
Frank j. Warne, the statistical expert
for the tranmen when he resumed his
testimony. His testimony was finished
early in the afternoon and was intended
TO show that the directors of the large
roads have directorships not only in the
companies they are supposed to repre-
sent, but also many similar in other
companies.
The next witness was Martin Degnan.
a freight conductor. living at No. 81
Liberty street. Schenectady. who is en-
ployed by the Delaware & Hudson. He
said he had eleven years experience In
his work and he testified that there was
more risk in the double-header trains
than In trains with a single engine.
He contended that a conductor had
great deal OF responsibility and the
reason the men wanted the same wages
as were paid in the West was that in the
East they had as much work and re-
sponsibiity as In the West.
When he said that the conductors had
cars Elisha Lee asked II he "crawled
under the cars" TO see. The witness said
he did not. but he looked below the
cars He was asked as TO the risks on
mining trains but said he was not in II
position TO say.
One set of tables, introduced by Frank
J. Warne. showed that the thirteen d.
roctors Of the New York Central occupied
eighty-nine separate and distinct direc-
torShips In subsidiary companies of this
road alone. Besides this, the tables
showed that the thirteen directors occupy
twenty-three directorships on roads out
side the Central system I'm Eastern terri
tory, involved In the trainmen's dispute
the thirteen men thus occupying IL posts
He gave lists of names Of the directors
and their positions on the different ROADS.
Sixteen men who are directors In sub
sidiary lines OF the Central, the witness
said. occupied thirty-one places IN other
companies in Eastern territory.
The witness, referring 10 his tables sara
that the sixteen directors OF the Fenhsyl-
yanIa Railroad occupied eight places on
ether Eastern roads OF a similar KIND anu
enumerated twelve directors in us SUD
sidiary lines. who. he said, held twenty
five different posts in these companies as
well as nineteen other positions In ROADS
affected by the wage demands.
There were twenty-seven directors III
the New York. New Haven & Hartford
he said. OF whom eight were not inter
locking directors and were directors In 10
other system. Tho remaining nineteen
ne said. held ffty-nine Of the same KIM
of positions in the New Haven and It's
subsidiary lines. with forty directorships
I'm lines outside Of this system. and four
teen OF the directors held twenty-five dr.
ferent positions in subsidiary companies
and forty-slx other directorships In sepa-
rate companies.
The twelve directors of the Baltimore *
ohio. he said. and the sixteen directors
held a total of ffty-three positions as d.
rectors in the company system and sixty
one places in outside Eastern roads.
In his testimony the witness had said
that sixteen men held nine large rail-
road systems and all their subsidiary
companies in unity OF action. serving
as means of communicating policies
among these companies." Referring 70
this statement Elisha Lee said
81 fail 10 see what this means. II might
mean anything or nothing. What does II
mean q,
The men hold what have testified 10"
replied the witness.