New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1913-04-11
THAW READY WITNESS
AS TO $4,000 BR|BE,
Desire to Help Own Cause,
Thought To Be Reason for
Willing Testimony. y
HIS STORY IMPORTANT
AS Result Grand Jury Will Call
Others to Stand Monday
Court Turns Down Mrs.
ThaW's Plea.

Harry IL Thaw, who refused to be
examined by Governor suffers committee
regarding the s25 900 bride which is said to
have been offered to get him out of Mat
toavan. went with alacrity Yesterday
before the grand jury which is investi-
eating the alleged attempt at bribery.
Thaws anxiety TO appear before the
grand jury yesterday is believed to have
been due 10 his belief that such an APP
pcarance might help him in some future
attempt to get discharge from Mattea-
wan His mother also was an eager wit
ness. Thaw was before the grand jury
for three hours and forty-1ive minutes.
Mrs Thaws testimony took only five
by William A. De Ford. Assistant Dis
trict Attorney.
herent except when he found some fan
Iied relation Of a question 10 the shoot
Ing Of Stanford White or to the cOnspir-
Acv which he insists is keeping him in an
asylum. Once or twice when he ina gined
such a relation he lost control of himself.
Ills testimony. however. was most i'm
portant, and as a result. instead Of hay
ing finished their inquiry with Thaw' :
story the grand jury will call two or
three more witnesses Monday.
Before Thaw went To the grand jury
room he was taken before Justice Sea
bury, who examined him informally and
satisfied himself that Thaw could talk to
'the grand jury intelligently on the matter
IN hand. In going to Justice Seabury $
chambers Thaw passed through the same
doors and the same corridors that lie
used when he entered the Criminal
Branch of the Supreme Court al his last
trial. when he was acquitted OF Stanford
Whites murder on the ground or insanity
and committed 10 the asylum.
After his examination Of Thaw Justice
SeabuTy delivered to the grand jury
charge which was intended to warn them
Of Thaw's standing as a witness and at
the same time serve notice upon Thaw
that any attempt to make capital of his
appearance before a grand jury would be
useless. The latter phase of the instruc-
tons was especially grateful to some of
the grand jurors who had feared that
some or all of them might get subp0nas
10 appear as witnesses for Thaw should
hc again attempt to obtain his release by
habeas corpus proceedings.
The fact that the witness has been
adiudged insane and relieved Of criminal
responsibility for a particular act said
Justice Seabury does not preclude you
from receiving his testimony for what 1t
may be worth. Nor will the fact that you
receive his testimony have any bearing
upon the question as 10 whether or not
he is now sane or insane
"IIe has several times been adjudsed
insane and I know OF no reason for ques-
tioning the correctness of these determine
tons II you receive his testimony you
must do so i'm appreciation Of the fact
that YOU are receiving the testimony OF
an insane person.
Il charge you that YOU will not return
an indictment against any person upon
his uncorroborated testimony. If, how
ever. his testimony is corroborated YOU
may give credence 10 and act upon it,