The Richmond Virginian. (Richmond, Va.) 1910-1920, 1913-02-25
CLARK SAYS RING
GOT $4,000 FROM
THAW FOR PARDON
Kept Him in Matteawan When
He Refused to Give More,
He Tells Committee
DIR. RUSSELL GIVES
PROBERS SURPRISE.
Admits He Recommended AN
hut to Thaw AS Attorney
and Chairman Carlisle
Comments Upon 1t

ALBANY, N. Y. Feb. 24.--"Some-
body He'd said Chairman Carlisle, OF
the sulzer committee OF inquiry, ia,e
thta afternoon at the conclusion OF
the hearing in the investigation OF
the alleged bride of $4,000 offered TO
Dr. John ". Russell. of Matteawan
state Hospital for the Criminal In
sane. IL he would free Harry Thaw.
Conflicting testimony was given 20
the committee. and William +. clark.
ancretsrv of the committee. charged
Colonel Joseph F. Scott, superinteh-
dent OF the state prison, was at the
head Of prison ring which CONDUCT
ed a brokerage business IN paroons.
No hearing In the Thaw investiGa-
ton will be held tomorrow, put on
"Wednesday the committee VIII nave
before It John + Anhut. the lawyer
of New York city. who is cnarged ps
Dr Russell with having offered tne
hribe; Gus Roeder. New YORK
man, charged by Mr.. ClaIk
vrfth being the press agent or the
urison ring: Detective Norman, saiu
10 be in the employ OF the Iha"s,
and Alfred Henry Lewis the noveilst'
who saw Thaw In Matteawan reeents.
Mr.. Anhut's attorney promised the
committee his client would DE on hsiho
Wednesday morning.
Clark yacates Place.
n,,rjrY the remainder Of the hear
ing Mr.. Clark will be relieved from
duty as secretary of the committee
He made the request himself ON the
witness, hut an hour or so before this
the committee and Mr.. clark con-
ferred with Governor Suizer, and as a
result of this conference Mr- clark
vacated his place.
Harry Thaw himself. Will so on the
stand befora .he committee Thurs~
dav. but the hearing will take place
at Matteawan. Chairman Carlisle pc
) seyes much disorder would result IL
Thaw were brought To Albany for
the hearing
DIR. Russell surprised the committee
by admitting that he himself suE--
Cested to Thaw the appointment OF
Mr.. Anhut ar his attorney. Chairman
Carlisle said after the hearing that II
would have been easy for Thaw 10
foresee that a man recommended ny
Russell would be a good one TO ap-
proach Dr. Russell with "A bride offer.
The MattAawan superintendent &c
clared that he took no action 70 Sc
cure the arrest OF Anhut. because ne
did not realize the enornatty or the
offense."
How DIR. Lamb Lost Place.
DIR. Russell excused his recomTnen-
dalton of Anhut to Thaw by deciar-
ing that his predecessor, DIR. Lam D,
lost his place because he was tnimical
to Thaw and the Thaw interests OPP
posed him, and he did not want 70
follow in DR.. Lambs footsteps
Colonel Scott. on the stand. declared
that he accepted full Responsibility
for DR.. Russell not prosecuting MIR.
Aniaut for Offering him a bribe. before
he knew more evidence than DIR. Rus
cells word would have to be produced
in court to secure a conviction.
When John T. Morton. counsel to
COMMITTEES. was questioning Colonel
Scott about what he might have done
to get evidence against Anhut, Colonel
Scott became angry and said:
II want to say, Mr.. Morton. the
fnsinuation In that this was done to
reflect upon the governor-~an insin-
uAtion which resent. There Is moth
ing Of the kind In II.
Colonel Scott Flares Up.
Several times during his examina-
ton. Superintendent Scott fared up.
Once when Mr.. Morton again suggest
ed that sit would have been very
eaEy'' to catch Mr.. Anhut red-handed,
Colonel Scott broke Ia:
IF could have gone and told the
chairman ana the governor and every
body else In the State what had hap
pened but did not choose to do So
But you might have sent DIR. RUS
sell back to say Here, you don't need
the order OF the governor. GIVE me
the money" eaid Mr.. Morton.
It was my Judgment not to-" was
the answer.
Mr.. Morton suggested that DIR. Rus
sell could have the matter put tn
proper legal shape, and then sent
to Anhut for the money. Again Col
onel Scott was reused.
well. we could speculate on this
thing indefinitely, OF course, but we
did not" he remarked.
Did Not DO Ii.
That's just the point" said Mr..
Morton, you did not do IT."
Colonel Scott declared he did not be-
lievc DR.. Russell should be removed,
as head of the Matteawan asylum
pending the outcome OF the investisa-
ton. II think that the institution Is
perfectly safe with DR.. Russell there
until this thing is settled, said colonel
Scott.
Colonel Scott was the last witness
to be called to the stand, others who
had been asked to come were not pres
ent, Chairman Carlisle announced
that subpoenas would be served on
them for appearance Wednesday.
The story related by Secretary Clark
was the sensation of the afternoon.
Mr.. Clark declared that the scheme
was ITO hnmiliate. Governor Sulzer.'
and said that .'Thaw was only meal
ticket for tho ring. He claimed that
Thaw would have been released from
Matteawan last December, but for the
cupidity OF the ring" whose mem
hers not only got $4,000 to release
him, but wanted to make another
touch" and when the money was not
forthcoming kept him in prison.
Mr.. Clark refused to give to the
committee the name of his informants,
hut said that IL Thaw. Detective Hoff-
man. and Thaw's bank books and
papers were examined by the commit
tee this story would be proved.