Mexico Missouri message., 1913-07-10
WALL STREET OPERATOR ADMITS
IMPERSONATING 2 CONGRESSMAN

| knew Ledyard could tell me"
Thinking he was talking to Palmer.
the witness said, Lodyard told him
over the phone what a blackmailer
Lamar was.
He said he had started the opposi.
ton to Lauterbach, and told me his
opinion of myself, thinking | was Pal.
mer. | realized at once that Ledyard
had fallen into an error, and knew
that acting as Palmer | could force
him to do anything | desired So l
told him to call Lauterbach and let
him explain everythiug
'Lauterbach then made the famous
visit"
Acting for Lauterbaeh.
Lamar said that in all his telephone
conversations he was actuated solely
by desire to help Lauterbach.
IF Lauterbach could bring the Nor.
gan interests into haromny with the
Democracy 1t would have been a great
feather in his cap" he explained.
II saw that the proposed juggle of
the Union Pacific-Southern Pacific,
Baltimore & Ohio and the Penusylva
ma was a farce" Lamar continued. II
realized that 1t would rouse indigna:
ton countrywide. l say it now. Here
is government comforting with a
great concern over a dissolution. The
government is not sure 1t doubts the
law The attorney general doesn't
know about this. Finally he sends A..
G. Carroll Todd to St Paul to conduct
this great battle, and they butchered
him in five minutes, | think"
Lamar testified he used the name Of
Representative Daniel J. Riordan Of
New York telephoning to Chairman
Lovett of the Union Pacific
On another occasion, Lamar testi-
fed, he called up Paul d. Cravath Of
counsel for the Union Pacific, sug.
costing Lauterbach would be a valu-
able adviser.
On another occasion he talked over
the telephone to Lewis Cass Ledyard,
using Representative Palmer's name,
and with Maxwell Evarts, using Rep.
resentative Riordan's name. In both
conversations he spoke about Lauter.
bach's services.
Senator Nelson insisted that Lamar
testify explicitly whether he stated in
those conversations that Lauterbach
had influence in Washington with Of
flcials, senators or representatives.
Il am inclined to believe that In my
conversation with Mr.. Eedyard l went
very far i'll that direction on the at.
firmative SIDE" returned Lamar
why did you change to Palmer's
name. instead of sticking to Rior.
dan's?" demanded Senator Nelson.
We'll, Mr.. Palmer was very much
in the public eye then. as one who
would have great influence at Wash.
ington with the incoming Democratic
administration, replied Lamar. He
added he did not know Palmer and
had no authority to use his name.
Lamar said the late j. p. Morgan's
opposition to Lauterbach caused him
to telephone Ledyard, using the name
of Representative Palmer, to try to
win his confidence and find out who
had ostracized Lauterbach.
Il found out it was Ledyard him
SELF" said Lamar. lie added he knew
Ledyard had a stenographer on the
line making a record of the talk
Il read everything into it could
said Lamar. "Fthink | offered him the
entire government | may have left
the president out"
Lamar set the committee into
laughter with his story of how he
impersonated Palmer, lectured Led
yard because he did not go to church,
and told what remarkable things Lau-
terbach could do al Washington for
the Morgan firm.
Il told him that the defiant attitude
of the Morgan firm toward the Demo-
cratic administration in congress had
much to do with the decline in the
value of Morgan securities" contin.
ued Lamar. Il called attention to the
money trust and other Investigations
and urged Mr.. Ledyard to employ Lau.
terbach."
Wanted to Do No Injury.
You were trying to convince Led.
yard that Lauterbach was a sort -
John the Baptist for the Morgan
firm?" suggested Senator Nelson.
THAT'S II ayactly rat,trnad ar,,r