Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1913-07-30

Colorado, Nevada, California, and
many other states, as well as the
protests coming from individual
members of the Democratic party
in all points Of the country against
the attempt to force the adoption
of free sugar, furnish conclusive
evidence that the placing of SUI
gar on the free list was not con-
templated as a possibility By the
great majority of those who sup
ported the party ticket in the last
campaign.
Do you remember that bulletin
that statement in Bulletin II?
Mr.. Carter. ! do not. j do not
know whether have read Bulletin
Il or not.
The Chairman. What was that
statement issued for?
Mr.. Carter. To get, that informa-
ton out before the public.
The Chairman. Before the sena-
tors?
Mr.. Carter. Before the senators and
members OF the house and the public.
The Chairman. Was that state,
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Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, Montana,
Colorado, Nevada and California?
Mr.. Carter. II was made to point
out that fact to them.
The Chairman. For the purpose OF
Influencing their vote?
Mr.. Carter. we want to appeal to
their reason in every way we can.
The Chairman Was it done to try
10 influence their vote?
Mr.. Carter. Not at all. We want
them to understand the situation.
The Chairman. Why, unless you
wanted to influence their vote?
Mr.. Carter. Self-preservation is the
first law, and we want every senator
to understand what he is doing be-
fore he does it.
The Chairman. Unless you want
ed to influence his vote, why did
you make such statement as that?
Mr.. Carter. We want him to un-
derstand the situation thoroughly,
Senator, if may be pardoned for say
ing so, before he votes.
The Chairman. You decline to say
that it was done to influence him?
Mr.. Carter. Not reprehensibly; not
llegitimately.
The Chairman. / am not saying
that / am not charging anything Of
that sort
Mr.. Carter. Certainly, it is a de-
sire to influence him in one way;
yes.
The Chairman. / understand that.
I do not charge there is any corrup-
tlon there at ALL
Mr.. Carter. If may be permitted,
want to say that we in Hawaii felt
that when the papers reported and
our Democratic delegate came back
from the Democratic convention and
said that we need not be alarmed
about free sugar, that sugar would not
be campaign issue
The Chairman. That is what some
body told you?
Mr.. Carter. What is that?
The Chairman. That is what some
body said when they came back?
Mr. Carter. One of the delegates is
here who was q delegate to that con-
vention, Mr.. Harry Irwin.
uS OLdtIllle nave III QOQDL IL
is true. 1 am not doubling it at all
Mr.. Carter. / want to say, Senator,
if / may be pardoned, if / may go
on
The Chairman. $. thought you
thought l doubted what he told you.
/ did not doubt that at all.
Mr. Carter The word that came
back to us was that we need not be
alarmed about sugar, and then when
the bill was introduced, naturally
many were somewhat surprised.
The Chairman. Do you not think
this, is somewhat misleading, TO say
that it was not contemplated as posi-
BILE by those who voted the Democrat
ic ticket that there should be free
sugar?
Mr. Carter. No; do not think It
is misleading. From the information
| get think it is. about right.
The Chairman. Do you know
whether that was discussed in the
campaign or not?
Mr.. Carter. | am told there was a
telegram sent to the Democratic com
mittee asking them to put plant: in
for free sugar. and the committee de-
clined to put the plank in ard desired
to avoid the issue il the campaign. {.
The Chairman. Do you think the
majority of the people were told
that?
Mr.. Carter. do not know about
the majority of the people; but have
yet to learn where sugar was dis.
cussed and how it was discussed.
The Chairman. You do not know
that it was not discussed in the cam.
paign?
Mr.. Carter. / do not know.
The Chairman If you do not know
that, how do you know that it was moi
an issue?
Mr.. Carter. am yet to be in.
formed where it was an issue and
when it was an issue.
Senator Reed. II was not an issue
in the campaign; but the result oil
the campaign proves conclusively, &C
cording to this statement in this cir
cular, that it was an issue; is that
your logic?
| Mr.. Carter. / do not understand