Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1913-08-23

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was not some tariff legislation more
or less affecting them!
Mr.. BaIlou. The intervals have been
rather brief phen there has not
been.
Senator Walsh. And this associa.
ton has deemed il wise to have a re.
preventative on the ground here at all
times when the legislation was under
consideration?
Mr. Ballou. Yes.
Senator Walsh. You have a regu-
lar delegate from the islands, and
have had for a number of years?
Mr.. Ballou. Yes.
Senator Walsh. Is he working In
harmony with you?
Mr.. Ballou. To a certain extent
and not to certain extent. He does
not pretend for moment to represent
the sugar planters of the Hawaiian
islands. His interest is in the people
who elect him, who are largely and
predom4nantly Hawaiians, and the
Hawaiians have very little interest in
The sugar plantations there. Some
times his interests as delegate are
in accord with mine representing the
planters, and at other times they are
not. He has been engaged recently,
may say, in an open fight against
the reappointment of the present gov
crnor, upon the ground that the gov
ernor unduly favored the plantations,
which charge was investigated by
Secretary Fisher.
Senator Walsh. So that he has not
really been working in conjunction
with you upon the mission which is
now engaging your attention?
Mr.. Ballou. He has filed a strong
brief before the committee on ways
and means and before the senate f.
nance committee last year. in which
he stated that he was not represent
ing. the capitalists and he had no cen
Germ in the capitalists, but that the ef-
feet on the common people of Hawaii
OF free sugar would be disastrous.
Senator Walsh. The point ! am
making is that he does not work in
conjunction with you at all?
Mr.. Ballou. No. / have consulted
with him frequently about one thing
Vi AuOluC1, Jul COH6ulI WILL
him as a practice at all.
Senator Walsh. He is not at all in
your counsels down here?
Mr.. Ballou. No; he has been there
on one occasion on our invitation, be-
cause he is interested in this fight
against free sugar, but other than that
he is not.
Senator Walsh. If catch your
meaning Alright, the general body of
the Hawaiians have not taken any
deep interest in this matter, but 1t is
the representatives of the Americans
who are interested chiefly?
Mr. Ballou. Oh, you misunderstood
me. simply said that the great body
Of the Hawaiians were not directly
in sugar. suppose to a
limited extent they may be small
They are also employed
by the sugar plantations, for example,
though only to limited degree. They
are engaged in other pursuits; but
their interest in the matter, is quite
deep. because they are, like everyone
else in Hawaii, firmly convinced that.
The material prosperity of the islands
depends upon the sugar industry.
Senator Walsh. What do you mean
BY a limited degree? -
Mr.. Ballou. That is, the number of
Hawaiians who are employed by the.
Senator Walsh. Yes.
Mr.. Ba1lou. should like to refer to-
he fourth report Of the Commissioner
Of Labor for the exact statistics. 1
IAN give you then the number and the
Senator Walsh. Is that available to
fou?
Mr.. Ballou. Yes. have it here in
his room would say in explanation
If this book that it Is the bulletin Of
he Bureau of Labor. published by the
of commerce and labor,
Ind that the organic act of the terri
DRY of Hawaii provides that the labor
conditions of Hawaii shall be investi-
gated regularly now every five years
~ tie department of commerce and
abor. Since that department has
,een divided into two different depart
nents, do not know to which depart
nent the duty is now assigned. This
s the fourth such report.
Senator Reed What is the date?
Mr.. Ballou. May, 1911. Those are
he nearest figures that can give YOU
Senator Reed. If you are going to
i've an official report, let us have the
asst one.
Mr.. Ballou. This is the last report.
The investigation is made only every
i've years.
Senator Reed. Here is one that II
lold in nay hand of date January %,
Oil.
Mr.. Ballou. This is May, 1911.
Senator Reed. And that is signed
~ whom?
Mr.. Ballou. It is issued by Commits
Toner Neill and is signed by Victor
lark, who was the official agent sent
Tut for the purpose of making the in
'estigation.
Senator Reed. Very well, proceed.
Mr.. Ballou. These are the last Off
ial figures / know of that give the
lumber and the percentages of en-
lloyess on the different plantations.
Senator Walsh. desire to get the
Iative employees in the sugar indus
ry.