The Birmingham age-herald., 1913-07-25
Declares He Has Never Held
Conference With Lobby
list" as Alleged
GAVE MONEY TO
J. II. M'DERMOTH
Mulhall on Stand in Cross Examina-
ton Tells of Paying Pages
Monthly Salaries-Much Cor
respOndence Examined

washington. July 24.--One more denial
of the allegations of Martin NJ. Mulhall.
former lobbyist for the National AS
ISOLATION of Manufacturers and one more
serious charge against men close to the
powers that were in Washington in the
days when Muhall was working as a po-
litical agent, marked the progress today
of the Senate investigating committee
through his voluminous correspondence.
Senator Cummins. a member of the in
vestigating committee, declared by Null
hall to have taken him into private con-
ference about public business. denied fiat
ly that he had ever held such conference
with Mulhall
Mulhall, in letters and on cross-exami-
nation, swore that he had paid the page
of the House of Representatives, the mes
senger TO the Speaker of the House, and
the messenger to the House ways and
means committee monthly for little jobs
they did for him. He swore. too, that he
had given money to ]. Fl. McDermott,
for eight years a member of the House
from Illinois. When questioned closely by
Senator Nelson he said that this money
was borrowed and never paid back.
Will Not Allow Examination
A development of the day indicated
clearly that the Senate committee does
not intend to allow the attorneys for the
Manufacturers association to cross-ex-
anime Mulhall about the charges he has
|
! tion and against former members of Con-
gress and men high in official life in
Washington.
Chairman Garrett of the special House
committee that is ready to Investigate lob
bying, announced today that Chairman
Overman Of the Senate committee had
promised to turn over Mulhall to his COM
mittee Monday The professed National
Association OF Manufacturers field agent
will not get through the Identification and
fexplanation OF his correspondence with
i the sOverrnan committee before tomorrow
night. at the rate of progress made today,
and the associations lawyers could hardly
make an impression upon him on Satur-
day IL the Senate committee sits that day.
Another feature of the day was the ac-
tivity of Senator Nelson, a republican
member of the committee, who heretofore
has allowed his democratic colleagues to
conduct the Mulhall branch of the inquiry
almost at will. Senator Neson today
| searched Muhalls memory for particulars
of many expense accounts and other mat
ters brought into the limelight in the let
| ters
Visited Several Members
Mulhall swore that his first visit to Me-
Dermott was when he was visiting every
| about tariff commission bill In the sum
mer of 1909 AT that time he found Nc
| Dermott IAN uncouth politician" Later
| in the same year he swore he was intro
duced to l. IL. McMichaels, chief page OF
the House, and McDermotts confidential
secretary"
He testified that McMiehaels, Henry
| Neal, messenger TO the speaker of the
(, House, and Harry Parker, messenger to
the ways and means committee were put
| on monthly salaries by him in that year.
the chief page getting $50 a month, while
| Congress was in session; Neal. $50 month
and Parker s25. The $i05 that he swore
went monthly to these three men was
given 10 him, he testified in check form,
by james A. Emery, counsel for the Ma
tional Association of Manufacturers. He
| said McNlchaels knew when he employed
! him that Mulhall represented the associa-
tion and that he realized what sort of
! Legislation ne WAS OppoStu 70 l4dlSi, ne
swore, the chief page brought Mulnall
and McDermott together In a Washing
ton hotel. lie said MeDermott's sec
! retary had explained before the meeting
that he was a rough Jewel, but that he
had not been long in Washington and
did not understand things
The witness said that after his inter-
view he had been against McDermott
strongly. and had wished to have the
National Association of Manufacturers
fight him for recollection. He said he aft
erward often talked with McDermott
about labor bills and other matters of
that kind.
Kept Borrowing 1t
''Did you give him any funds?' asked
Senator Nelson.
II didn't have a chance" said MulhalL
..IIe borrowed it and kept borrowing it.
"Did he pay 1t back?
NO, sir
He said he loaned McDermott money
In 1910 and 1911 and in 1912 when he helped
him in his fight for reelection he aided
In the collection Of fund of about $50
from manufacturers in McDermott's dis
trict in Chicago. He said McDermott told
him many things, showed him "Gompers
| nrivate letters" and in other ways was
useful.
nHe considered all these as payments
for The loan" suggested Senator Nelson.
J ~ looked at 1t that way. answered
Mulhall
Many of Mulhalls expense accounts
examined late today showed items of
$50 per week paid to two party work
eran In the Second New Jersey district.
where he said the association was
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