Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1913-01-29
Reimbursed for Expense Incurred by
Trip to Alabama.
IN SEARCH OF INFORMATION
First National Company Interested.
Bill Paid by Tuttle, Wightman
and Dudley.

pg before the subcommittee of the
House, of which Representative John
son of Kentucky is chairman. 1t had
been the intention of his attorney to
allow the hearing to close without
testimony from Mr.. Ingham. as il is
believed by the attorney that the testi-
nony discloses nothing for Mr. Ingham
to answer. Mr.. Ingham's appearance
today was at the request of members
IF the committee. who had found some
TENS of payment to Mr.. Ingham on
he books of Tuttle. Wightman & Dud-
ey.- They turned out to be payments
,n account of expenses incurred by
Mr.. Ingham in travelling south looking
up information about the First Ma
tional Fire Insurance Company.
This opened up a long inquiry as to
the propriety of making such pay
nents. Judge Prouty asked the wit
ness if his prime duty was to policy
lolders OF stockholders. Mr.. 1ngham
replied that the policy holders received his
first consideration.
Check Transaction Explained.
\ check for so from Tuttle, Wightman
& Dudley. given to George Ingham, SUI
perintendent of insurance, figured in the
testimony today. Representative Prouty
handed the check to Mr.. Ingham, who
replied that the check was received by
him in payment of expenses incurred by
him in trip to Alabama, where ne in
vestiSated certain rumors i'm connection
with the First National Fire Insurance
Company. He said that an Alabama In
surance official had said he was going
TO keep the First National Fire Insur-
ance Company out of that state Ion gen.
eral principles
Mr.. Ingham said he made one trip
without the knowledge of Tuttle. Wight
man & Dudley. and that when it became
necessary to make another trip he told
Mr.. futile that he would have to be
He said Tuttle handed him
so in cash, and that he Ungham) had
said the expenses were more than that.
Mr. Ingham conferred with Supern-
tendent of Insurance Laird in Montgom-
cry, Ala, whose sole reason for not
the company was because OF
the use of the term "rirst National"
Il told Mr.. Tuttle of my expense. He
gave me a check for $50 My.entire ex-
penses were S.9.60, 1 think
Details Required.
Judge Prouty asked for further details.
Il had heard from several sources that
mitted into any state. and 7 went to
Alabama to see what the objection was.
1t was strongest there.
DO You conceive it to be a part of
your duty to see that the District of
Columbia companies are admitted to
other stateS?
No
Judge Prouty asked why Tuttle
& Dudley should have paid for
such a trip Mr.. Ingham said he wanted to
find out all about this company, as 1t had
not yet applied for a license to do busi-
ness in the District of Columbia, but in
tended to.
Judge Prouty went deeply into the
question OF the superintendent of insur-
Mr.. Ingham read from his annual reports
to show that it was not an unusual prac-
tice.
AT the time you talked talked to Mr..
futile. did he say anything about re-
dppraisement of the Southern building?"
No"
Mr.. Ingham said Charles F. Carusi had
requested reappraisement some
time in October.
Question of Propriety.
Are your relations with the companies
here such that YOU can make these trips
and charge them up for il without saying
a word about it?'' asked Representative
Prouty.
Mr. Ingham said it was his duty TO
District of Columbia, and that the COM
panies wanted TO know of these runlors
also.
Representative Prouty then turned to
the matter of the three appraisers. and
isked about the custom of paying ap-
pra isers $40 day.
Mr. Ingram said it was the custom of
the office.
..These are Your officials: don't YOU
think you ought To make sure they get
only what they are entitled to, and only
that. In other words, unless you keep
watch OH their work there is a possibility
Of their receiving a bonus?"
MY employees don't get bonuses.
Query Regarding Darneille Bill.
Judge Prouty asked several questions
as to why Fl. II. Darneille's bill of 500
for ten days appraising work had been
D. K'd after it had been paid. Mr..
Ingham said he had every reason toebe-
ieve TIE work had been done.
Judge Prouty asked him if ne found a
company using all its money for salaries
would he comment on it. Mr.. Ingham
said he interpreted his position to be one
IF looking out for policyholders ,pri-
narily.
Suppose a man is a titular head, do
ng nothing and drawing a large salary.
what then?
Mr. Ingham said he could call attention
20 it, but that the law probably would
not affect the case as long as the COM
,any was solvent.
Insurance Literature.
Judge Prouty asked about the literature
If the insurance companies in general.
Mr.. Ingham said he had referred litera-
ure and pamphlets to the Post Office De-
,artment on more than one occasion. He
mentioned one concern in which half a
,ozen prominent Washingtonians are in
crested.
Representative Redfield wanted to know
vhy he had taken the First National Fire
insurance Company literature to the Post
Office Department.
why. because l had heard the Protec-
i've Holding Corporation had been in trou-
lie on account of its pamphlets, and I
new of the connection between that COM
,any. futile, Wightman & Dudley, and
he Commercial and the First National
told the inspector 1 had circulars that
wanted to go over with him. He knew
If the Protective literature.
He said he would investigate the mat