The Lancaster news. [volume] (Lancaster, S.C.) 1905-current, 1913-07-18
NAMES OF Big MEN GIVEN
STRAIN TELLING ON MULHALL
Interesting Interview Between Roose-
welt and EN-Congressman Wat
son is Described.

members did not approve, to get the
ears OF men who were running presi-
Dental booms and to land a mem
per OF association in the cabinet of
president were laid before the SEN
ate lobby investigation committee to-
DAY. Martin M. Mulhall, self-confes-
sed lobbyist for the association, swore
to the authenticity of nearly 400 let
ters which told of these plas and
brought in the means OF such men as
former Presidents Roosevelt and
Taft, the late Vice-President Sher-
man, former Speaker Cannon, form
er Senators Aldrich Hemenway,
Foraker and others, Arthur L. Worries
Ohlo manager of the Taft campaign
In 1908, and Frank II. Hitchcock,
one-time chairman of the Republf-
can national committee and Repub-
ltcan national committee and post
master general in Mr.. Taft's cabinet.
Mulhall testified, too, that the Ma
tional Council for industrial Defense,
an organization allied to the Ma
tional Association of Manufacturers,
had raised between 100000 and
100000 a year to used in opposing
legislation it's members did not like.
He said this information came from
a collector of personal knowledge Of
1t expect that he had been paid for
political work from such a fund.
Mulhall showed the train he has
been under for four days during the
afternoon session, and the committee
took him from the stand for a half
hour and listened to testimony by ].
2. Byrd, general manager of the Man
ufacturers' Association, and treas
urer Of the Industrial Defense coun-
Gil. Byrd brought half a carload of
books and papers with him to Wash
ington and turned them over to the
committee. He refused to say who had
contributed to the fund or the council
but he will be examined at length
later and the committee will under
take to make him tell what manufa,
turers contributed and what amounts
they gave
Among with the information that
Byrd had half carload of data to
submit the committee heard that
F. G. Schwedtman of st. Louis, secre-
tary to the late James w. Van Clea-
We, once president of the National
Association of Manufacturers had alb
out 10000 letters bearing on the
associations work.
The committee was greatly inter
ested in a letter which Mulhall swore
he wrote to Schwedtman, April 16,
1908. 1t told of a conversation Null
Representative Watson, of Indiana,
in which the letter described a two
hour interview at the White House
between Mr. Roosevelt and himself.
In part the letter read:
"He (Watson) said he was invited
to the White House at $50 o. M,
and was with the President until
1880. The President wished him to
call so they could go over the legis-
lative program for the balance of
of this season, the president know
ing that he represented Speaker Can
non had the other leaders of the
house and senate. He stated that the
the main reason of the call was that
Speaker Cannon, Vice president
Fairbanks and several others want
ed to find out how the president
stood in relation to a third term. He
stated that there we're four things
the president wished. First, that con-
gress woud stay in session until the
18th of May to meet governors of the
different states coming to Washing
ton on that day. Second, to amend the
Sherman law. Third, to have con-
gress vote four battleships. Fourth,
TO pass the child labor law for the
District of Columbia, which would be
model law for the states in gen.
eral.
'Mr. Watson said he told the presf-.
dent that it was impossible for him
to get through this congress would
only vote fro two battlesips. Second
that Congress would not amend the
Sherman law. The president wanted
to know why Mr.. Watson told him
that almost the entire manufacturing
interests of the country were against
1t. The President wished to know if
Mr.. Watson knew or had met Mr..
Van Cleave.
Mr.. Watson told him he had, and
that he knew Mr. Van Cleave well.
and other leaders in touch with Mr..
Van Cleave, and that Mr. Van Cleave
was a SPLENDID fellow. He talked
along these lines with the president
and finally the president did not press
TO have the Sherman bill passed at
this session of congress.
He then stated that they passed
to the child labor law and Mr.. Wat
son asked the president who would
draw this model bill The president
replied that he would have his labor
commissioner, Mr.. Neill, draw IL, the
. president explaining that he merely
wished this bill to be an academic bin
for the states"
The letter closed with a referance
to Mr. Watson's account of his ef-
torts to draw Mr.. Roosevelt out ON
the question of third term. Schwe-
dtman told Mulhall 20 a letter earlv
In 1908, 1T is really pity that we
cannot get you to congress or to the
senate right away You ought to he
there Each day teaches us how to do
LhlngS better, and Just another vear