The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1913-06-05
After Talk With President Sem
atOr HOke Smith Tells.
Also Thinks Search viii Find
Them in Washington.
NEW CHARACTER" is FOUND
Chairman Overman Says New
Kind of Lobby Exists.
Is Powerful. Concerted and Re-
sorts to Publicity.

WASHINGTON. June 5.-Senator Hoke
Smith, after a talk with President Will
son at the White House today, defined
a lobbyist. Every one is entitled to his
day in COURT said the senator, land
1 have always considered that a legis-
lative body sat as court.
ANY attempt to influence its judg-
ment after the argument is presented,
by seeking again and again to create
sentiment and work upon the judgment
of the members of congress is insidious
and highly Objectionable lobbying.
II think it will be perfectly apparent
that at the end of the investigation be-
ing conducted that there have been or
ganiZed forces here on sugar and wool
which have maintained their offices
long after they had presented their ar
guments. 1 have always held that
legislator ought not to be approached
any more than a court, outside of the
court room.
1.-The effect of this investigation will
reach, am sure legislative bodies
ate a purifying influence on legtsla-
tion.''
That the senate's lobby investigation
has already disclosed the activity OF
powerful lobbying interests of new
character" was the opinion expressed
by CHAIRMAN OVorIndn Oh the
after this mornings session.
I'VE have developed thoroughly the
fact that there is powerful and con-
certed lobbying he said. 1T is not
the personal appeal to senators, but
the newer form of organization to
mould public sentiment and to inf1u-
ence senators by means of public pres
sure from various sources. 1t is in
sidious to the extent that this publicity
and organization often partakes of mis-
representation and misinformation."
Senator Overman's statement was an
individual one, but he added that he
had some decided views on the ques-
tion'' as to what he would recommend
for the committees report to the sem
ate
To the list of outside witnesses who
will be required to tell Saturday and
next week of their activities in urging
or opposing legislation, the following
names have been added: c. J. Foulk-
ner, former United States senator from
West Virginia, Colin Livingstone, Off
Ger of a Washington bank; w. j.
Strass burger of Glassmere, Pa, presi
dent of the Pittsburg Plate Glass COM
pany; Paul J. Chri -tian, an employee
of the Louisiana. Sugar Growers, Of
fees in Washington, and Arthur B.
Hayes of Washington.
Although more than half the SEN
ate has testified to the absence of a
signs upon the tariff BILL the senate
committee today resumed
the hunt determined that the SER
geant-at-arms would issue more sub
poenas-
Although Chairman Overman would
not admit that the committee was re-
aid from the White House, the
opinion prevailed about the capitol
that the names of some of the men
summoned as witnesses have been sug-
gested by President Wilson. Friends
of the president are sure some inter-
esting information will be secured from
those summoned.
Senator Golf as witness today, said
his Virginia coal property brought him
a bout s25 900 a year in royalties; while
his oil properties paid him about
$50, 900 a year.
1--WE sell our oil to subsidiaries of the
Standard Oil company; there is no one
else to sell to- he said and added that
his property in this might be some
what affected by the traiff, but he did
not expect it. No one had approached
him on the tariff and he knew of no
lobby influence in Washington.
Senator Gore had no interest affected.
Several delegations and individuals
had called on him, including F. r.
Hathaway and Henry T. Oxnard on
ba SIIUar tariff