The sun., 1913-10-27

that Delaney save II To NurphN
know nothing about this
so nuchf or the contribution. Now
about suffers attempt to get my help to
have the charges dismissed suffers yer-
Sion of my conversation with him over
the telephone from Suffern is entirely
false When he tries to make ii appear
/ that ran after him with offers OF help
and that | suggested what he should do
and what counsel he should employ. that
/ he made no requests of me and that
did all suggesting. hr lies. The record
of telephone calls will show that on
september ne called me from Albany
! ! was not In town and he left word with
Mr. McGlone and with Mr.. Howard my
secretary to send me word that he was
anxious to talk to me.
The fact is that about noon on Monday.
September \. 1918. Mr. Mc,;lonc. my
fathers secretary. called me on the tele-
| phone at Suffcrn and stated that Sov.
Sulzcr had been trying to reach me by
, telephone, and later on the same day
Mr. Howard. my secretary, called me at
Suffctn and also stated that Albany had
called up the office and that the message
was that Gov. Sulaer was anxious TO
| speak with me.
! ~ did not want to talk with him unless
some third party was present to hear the
conversation, 50 on the evening of that
day ! went 10 the house OF George w
Morgan, an attorney who has ii country
place near mine AT Sufcrn
l. asked Mr.. Morgan whether | could
use his telephone to call Gov. Sulzer
saving to him that the Governor had been
trying TO reach mo on the telephone. and
| asked Mr.. Morgan to I've present while
talked To the Governor Mr. Morgan
called up long distance and asked to be
connected with Gov. Sulzer at Albany
Word came that Su,zer was on the wire
and Mr Morgan then handed the tele-
phone to Inc.
lnpOrtuWed ny Sulaes.
II tAih Sulzer who was and tha, my
office phoned me- that II. had telephon-d
me several times and wanted 10 speak
10 me. ic said yes. that he WAS very
ANXIOUS TO see me and wlshe, to
come tn A'banv the next daN. told
him that would not do So. Tie urged
me to come. hut | refused. and he then
requested me to meet him in New York
on Wednesday. the 10th OF September
as II was very important matter that
he wished Ia see M. about and that ne
would come down FOR that particular
purpose 81,
II told him that It was impossible for
mo to bc IN New York on Wednesday. y.
but that would be there on THURSDAY.
He said that he would come down par
ticularly To see mo on tnat day and
would | come to his oi'ic. a, IL o'clock
Thursday. the llth.
Wet 1" suffers once.
II reached my offce in New York a
little after II O'Clock on the morning Of
Thursday. September II. and upon ar
riving ! Was informed by Mr. Mct;lone
that Gov. Suizers secretary had tele
phoned that the Governor was waiting
for me at his office. | went TO Gov. Sui
Her's office at about | | 30.
LAS ! was entering Gov. suffers pri-
vats office. n gentleman was coming out
OF that office and Gov. Sulzer int trOd uced
the gentleman to me as Ex-Governor
Spriggs, Spriggs left and Sulzer and |
were alone in suffers private office and
the door was closed.
After the usual greetings. the first
thing Sulaer said to me was. Are YOU
thought that Mccall WAS the bes, man
that had been nominated for Mayor dur
, ing my time. Sulzer said. i thought that
, you were for Mccall You know can
help the situation whole lot
wanted Roots WcIp.
He said. i want to SO to Washington
this afternoon and see Senator Root and
get him to see Barnes and persuade
Barnes to stop the impeachment trial b.,
having the Republican Senators vote that
the Assembly had no right TO i,npeach
me. | have ten Democrats who Will vote
that way and If can get the Repubi-
can Senators 10 vote in the same way.
that will put AN end to the whole thing.
"He also said that II the Impeachment
! could be Disposed OF IN this way he could
give out n statement to the public which
would satisfactorily explain the whole
matter. | told him that | did not see
1,,,xa, ha IN r..~, tn
. these charges. Tie said that he didn't
. want to answer the charges because he
would have to put his wife on the stand
, as she knew all about the money trans
actions and he did not, and besides he
said that all the papers were against him
! Quiaa sounded Republican,.
~ told him that ! did not think the
! papers were against him, that they sim
ply wished him TO tell all he knew about
the matter and that IL he could answer
the charges satisfactorily that the papers
, would he with him. told him that !
would not go to Washington to see Mr..
Root but that ] would try TO ascertain
through n friend Of mine what the sen
ti,nent among the Republican Senators
was. He asked me could I do that at
once.
II told him that thought | could
,, have the Information for him in 4 few
hours. ;heroupon called up from hi'
office Lemuel r.. Quigg. ! requested Mr.
Quigg to come to my office at 66 lISertS
street at once. ! mentioned no name1
, over the telephone. so that ] do not be-
leve that Gov. Sulzer knew to whom
: | was speaking. ! asked Sulzer what
;, should do II ! was subpPnaed in the
!, case, He said, DO not pay any attention
, to the subpoena. They have no right &c
subpoena you | asked him whether
q that was because the law provided tina
the extraordinary session had no riGh
to take up any business except business
q presented to II by the Governor. II,
n said Yes
Il 80 far as | can recall the above wa,
=. the substance of the conversation tina
= morning.
y 81 thercdpon left Sul2er's office anl
y went back to my own Office and YER.
shortly hereafter Mr.. Quigg came 10 m,
II office and | told him the information
II desired. lie said he would return within
i short time and notify me of what h,
I" could find out. About . o'clock on tha
I day Mr.. QuigE returned TO my office an,
q dictated the following to my stenoxrap pher
. The best ! can get 10 a. follows