Norwich bulletin., 1912-11-30
On the Trail of
 the ''Dynamiters"
DETECTIVES TESTIFY OF THEIR
 MOVEMENTS.
HOCKINS GAVE THE TIP
Furnished Son of Detective Burns With Description of MoNsmara and McManigaI-Former Talked Freely.

Indianapolis, Ind, Nov. 29-F1ve and six days was fixed by wit nesses at the dynamite conspiracy" trial today as to the time 1t required to arrest James B. McNamara, dy- namiter of the Los Angeles Times building in which 21 persons were killed, after the dynamiters had been pointed out to detectives.
 The substance of the testimony as to dates was:
 Hockin Betrays Associates.
 On November 2. 1910, one month and one day after the Los Angeles ex- plosion, in a hotel lobby in Chicago. Herbert s. Hockin, secretary of the Iron Workers union, and accused be trayer' of the dynamiters, gave to Raymond J. Burns. son of the detec- tive who finally made the arrests, a full description of McNamara and Or tie E. McManiga1.
 On November at a railroad sta- ti0n in Chicago, Raymond Burns to his detectives pointed out McManigal, who was leaving for 6 hunting trip near ConOVer, Wis, and instructed the detectives to follow.
 shadowing MoManisaI and Mcha-
 mara.
 On November 6, at Kenosha. Wis, Detectives William J. Otis and Ben jamin r. Damon found McManigal had been joined by McNamara, who un- der the alias of Frank Sullivan ac- companied a hunting party to Conc yer, where from November to De- cember 4, the detectives "shadowed" the dynsmiters by talking to them in camp and observing them through field glasses. Finally McNamara and Me Manigal returned to Chicago on train on which there were no de- tectives.
 In January. 1911, Raymond Burns met Hocl1in in Chicago and asked him the whereabouts of McMan1gal who in the meantime had been to Los Angelas and caused an explosion there in the Llewelfyn Iron Works.
 Ten ExpIOsions During Intsrvel
 James B. McEamara and Mcafsnfrsl were arrested on Aprn 12, 1911. and John J. McNamara was arrested on April 22, 1911. Ten explosions occurred between December. 1910, and the time of the arrests.
 Raymond Burns said he had re- ceived information from Lindsey L. Jewel, then in Pittsburgh. who tes- tif1ed Hockin two months before the Los Angeles explosion had given the locations of hiding paaces for e1plo- sives. Jewel was going to Panama as an engineer and had urged Hocatn to report to Burns.
 Raymsnd eurns' Testimony.
 The substance of Raymond Burns l testimony was:
 "On November 2, met Hoclin In a hotel lobby in Chicago. He told me that Brice, then hunted on ghe Pa cif1c coast was James B. Mcf1amara and that J. W. MoNamara wanted for explosions in Peoria, IL, was ManagAl 1 located McManigars house in Chi cago and so traced him to the North western station where on November | 5, pointed him out for operatives to follow and to see with whom he con- nected. From time to time I received information from the hunting camp in Wisconsin.
 Two weeks later I again met Hook in in Chicago. He told me he was sat- isfled John J. McNamara of the Iron Workers union, and a brother of James B., was doing the dynamiting for what money there was in 1t, and The said he didn't like 1t for he was afraid 1t would ruin the union.
 Plan to Blow Up Detective Burna.
 Later William J. Burns, Hockin and myself met. William J. told Hockin the result of the investigation on the Pa cific coast which was that Olaf A. Tveitmoe and Anton Johannson, of San Francisco, has furnished Caplan and Schmidt and arranged with them to blow up the Times building. Will lam J. asked Hockin if he knew any thing on this point. Hockin replied he knew nothing about what Tveitmoe did as that was a matter handled on the coast. Hockin did say. however, that Tveitmoe and Johannson had ar- ranged to blow up William J., in Seat tie or San Francisco by planting . bomb in a room next to his room at . hotel.
 Detective Finds McNannara Drunk.
 "Hockin met me again in January. I asked him where McManigal was. He said he didn't know. That was the time McManigal had gone to Los An geles to blow up the Llewellyn Iron Works" Otis and Damon testified about following the dynamiters to Conover hunting camp.
 Otis said once he fouDd James B. intoxicated and 'got pretty well ac- quainted with him" He also said hs took photographs of the dynamiter When the dynamiters left Conover, he said, The did not know where they went"
 You were just obeying orders t report on their doings?"
 That's all"
 You were not ordered to make any arrests at that timer"
 NO"
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