Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1912-11-30
Herbert S, Hockin, Alleged Be-
trayer Of McNamaras and
McManigaI, Furnished First
Description of Men.
EVEN POINTED OUT
LATTER TO SLEUTH
Then Began Weeks Of Con-
stant Trailing and Shadow
ing of Suspects, Finally Re-
su|ting in Their Arrest,


nv Warning Io,rrni Sr.,x,1 eased Wire \
indianapolis, Nov 29.--Five months
and six days was fixed by witnesses
at the dynamite conspiracy trial to
day as the time it required to arres
James B. Mcnamara, dynamiter O
the Los Angeles Times building. II
which twenty one persons We're killed
after the dynamiter had been pointed
out to detectives. The substance o.
the testimony, as to dates was:
on November ., 1910, one montf
and one day after the explosion, in
hotel lobby in Chicago, Herbert S
Hockin secretary of the Iron Work
ers' union and accused 'betrayer" OF
the dynamiters. gave to Raymond j
Burns, son of the detective who fl
nally made the arrests, full descrip-
ton Of Mcnamara and Ortie E. Me-
Manigal.
On November 5th at railroad sta
ton in Chicago. Raymond Burns point
ed out McManigal to his detectives as
McManigal was leaving for huntine
trip near Conover. Wis. Burns in
structed his detectives to follow Nc
Manigal.
On November 9Th, at Kenosha, Wis,
Detective William j. Otis and Benja
min F. Damon, found McManigal had
been joined by Mcnamara, who, un-
der the alias of Frank Sullivan" ac-
companied the hunting party to Con-
over where from November Sth to
December 4th, the detectives "shad-
owed the dynamiters by talking 70
them in camp and observing them
through field glasses. Finally McNa-
mara and Mechanical returned to Chi
cago on train on which there were
no detectives.
In January, 1911, Raymond Burns
met Hockin in Chicago and asked him
the Whereabouts of McMani2al, who,
in the meantime, had been to Los
Angeles and caused an explosion there
in the Llewellyn Iron works.
James r. Mcnamara and McMani-
gal were arrested on April II, 1911,
and John ]. Mcnamara was arrested
on April 22, 1911. Ten explosions oc-
Cured between December, 1910, ana
the time of the arrests.
Raymond Burns said he had re-
ceived information from Lindsey
Jewel, then in Pittsburgh, who testi-
fled that Hockin two months before
the Les Angeles explosion, had given
the locations of hiding places for ex-
plosives. Jewel was going to Panama,
as an engineer and had urged Hockin
to report to Burns. The substance
of Raymond Burns testimony was:
"On November End met Hockin in
a hotel lobby in Chicago. He told
me that Bryce, then being hunted on
the Pacific coast, was James b. Nc
Namara, and that j. w, McGraw,
wanted for explosions in Peoria, ILL.,.
was McManigal. / located McManigaPs s
house in Chicago and so traced him to
the Northwestern station. where. on
November 5th. | pointed him out Tor
operatives to follow and whom he
conversed with. From time to time,
received information from the hunt
ing camp in Wisconsin.
Two weeks later l again met
Hockin in Chicago. He told me he
was satisfied that John J. Mcnamara,
of the Iron Workers union and
brother of James b., was doing the
dynamiting for what money there was
in it and he said he did not like 1T,
for he was afraid he would ruin the
union
and myself met. William ]. told
Hockin the result of the investigation
on the Pacific coast which was that
Olaf A. Tveitmoe and Anton Johann
sen, of San Francisco. had furnished
Caplan and Schmidt and arranged
with them to blow up the Times build
ing.
William j. asked Hockin if he
knew anything OH this point. Hockin
replied he knew nothing about what
Tveitmoe did. as that was matter
handled on the coast. Hockin did say,
however, that Tveitmoe and Johann
sen had arranged to blow up William
J. in Seattle or San Francisco by plac-
ing a bomb in room next to his
room at hotel.
Iockin met me again in January.
] asked him where McManigal was.
He said he did know. That was the
time McManigal had gone to Los An
geles to blow up the Llewelyn works.
Otis and Damon testified about fol-
lowing the dynamiters to the Con-
over hunting camp. Otis said once
he found James b. intoxicated and
got pretty well acquainted with him.' y
He also said he took photographs OF
ihe dynamiters When the dynamiters
left Conover he said he did not know
where they went.
When YOU were following them
around camp. looking at them through
ileid glasses and talking To them in
me lodging house did not you know
"nat they were suspected off, Was
asked Damon by the defense.
had no Information as TO what