Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1912-09-07
WALDO IS ON THE GRILL
pENIEs HE ORDERED HAYES NOT
TO RAID ANY DISoRDERLY
HOUSES.
Hayes SAID THAT He DID
Yesterdays Proceedings simmered
Down TO a Question OF Vcracity
Between Waldo and Hayes.

NEW YORK. Sept. 6.-Whether
Police Commissioner Waldo gave
general Instructions TO suppress
disorderly houses and private verbal
orders to allow them TO run. as long
as conditions OF outward decency'
ere observed. became the question NJ
issue today when C.. @. Hayes, sus-
before Deputy Police Commissioner
Douglas 1. Mackay on the charge Of
making n false statement in regard to
his police duties.
While Hayes was ostensibly the de-
fendant. Thomas Thatcher. counsel.
virtually transformed the trial into
a probe OF the police department and
an arraignment Of the policy OF Mayor
Gaynor toward the regulation Of vice.
The attorney grilled Commissioner
Waldo to show that outward de-
cency" was the criteriCi by which the
mayor wished the question OF vice
sunpression to be determined and then
! Iayes on the stand to prove that
the commissioner had given the in
spectors verbal orders in pursuance OF
this policy and had not countermand-
ell them until they had become pub
lie. Hayes denied that he had made
false statement when he told the
commissioner the latter ordered him
not to make raids on dlsorderly
houses except on the commissioners
instructions.
In accordance with his instructions
he had made no raids. he said, since
February, although previously he had
made many and had Cleaned out" one
inspection district.
1t was on August 8 or about the
time when the scandals growing out
OF the Rosenthal case were being air.
ed that Commissioner Waldo. accord
ing to the witness threatened to fire
him" for stating that he had received
such orders. This he threatened to
dc on two subsequent occasions,
Hayes testified, but It was not until
August 16, the day after the publi-
cation of an interview from IAN in
spector," who was quoted as saying
he had received such orders from the
commissioner, that Waldo made good
his alleged threats by suspending him
and reducing him to a capttn's rank.
Hayes mentioned two or Tree con-
versations he had with Mr.. Waldo in
regard to suppressing disorderly
houses.
do you remember a conversation
you had with Waldo on Septem-
Der y" asked Mr.. Thatcher.
II do. l met him at the West 47th
street police station, the appointment
having been made over the telephone.
made a tour Of my district with
him. AS we passed a dance hall the
commissioner said to me: There is
a dance hall downstairs and house
for prostitution upstairs. II there is
10 outside disorder 1t Is as well to
have them in there as on the out
s de-"
Mr.. Thatcher handed Captain Hayes
a list of disorderly houses raided by
him.
'In these cases where arrests were
made did you act In accordance with
orders from Mr.. Waldo?"
II did not. / made these arrests
on complaints of reputable citizens.
They were all on apartment houses
and up until last February.
"On February 13 last Commissioner
Waldo sent for me-" Hayes contin-
ued. The commissioner said, \
thought you were keeping an eye on
disorderly houses?' / said / was.
Mr.. Waldo said, I have been told by
q newspaper man that the raids your
men made were for the purpose OF
giaft. Keep your men out of the dis
orderly houses and in the future IL
you ge- o letter or complaint bring
1, to me before you make a raid and
make raids only on my approval "
On August Is the commissioner sent
him letter ordering him to suppress
disorderly houses in his district. which
he said, was the first letter of its
kind he had received from the CON-
Every material statement Hayes |
made, each previously put In the form
Of a question by Mr.. Thatcher. was
denied by Hr. Waldo, who preceded
the police officer on the stand.
II never Ave Hayes any orders
other than general instructions to OBJ
serve peace and good order and en-