Arizona republican., 1912-07-27
Delegation Headed by P. H. Mccarthy and Including the Indicted Dynamiters Went to San Quentin to See Murderer
GOT A STRAIGHT TALK
 FROM WARDEN HOYLE
Delegation Informed That McNamara's Term in the Dungeon Would Not Be Shortened by Visit of the Labor Leaders
ASSOCIATED PRESS DIsPArCHl


 SAN FRANCISCO, July 26.-A committee from the San Francisco labor council called on Warden Hoyle of San Quentin penitentiary today to inquire for what offense James B. McNamara the confessed dynamter is being kept in solitary confinement James B. is under arrest for life inn rrisonment for blowing up the Los Angeles Times building at Los An geles with a loss of twenty-one lives and John J., his elder brother is serving fifteen years.
 The committee was composed of P. II. Mccarthy, former mayor of San Francisco and recently re- elected president of the state labor council; Olaf Tveitmoe, Eugene A. Clancy. John P. Mclaughlin, com missioner of the state bureau of la bor and statistics; Frank Mcdonald. civil service commissioner and other labor men.
 TVeitmoe and Clancy are under in- dictment by the federal grand jury at Los Angeles for alleged com plicity in the national dynamiting conspiracy of which the government charges that the Times explosion was but an incident. John l. Noland, for mer supervisor of San Francisco, q member of the party, acted as spokesman.
 He told Hoyle that it was gener- ally understood that J. B McNamara was being unjustly punished in an effort to break him down and make him give information desired by the government and the detective agency l instrumental in his conviction, and which the government and the de- tective agency believe he can give l if he wishes.
 Hoyle at first refused to discuss 1 the charge as absurd and ridicu- | lous" Later he admitted that Nal colm McLaren, a detective in at | tendance at the McNamara trial, who was of the bodyguard of Ortie 1 McManigal the confessed accomplice of the McNamaras, had brought a 1 prisoner from Los Angeles and had an hours talk with the captain of | guard. The visit was made without | the wardens knowledge, he said, and 1 would not be permitted again. l Mccarthy asked Hoyle if it was | ever brought to his attention that J. B. on one occasion had. been se- | verely prOdded with a stick by a 1 guard named Grub. The warden said | it had not and he did not believe | it was true Grub was one of the l guards singled out in the recent riot l in which one was killed and two | wounded.
 1 Mccarthy said he was prepared to prove that Grub was a confirmed hater of labor unions, that he had 1 worked as a strikebreaker during the San Francisco teamsters strike and | that he had threatened to make trou- be for the McNamaras.
 Hoyle said that Grub had come to him highly. recommended from the 1 Folsom penitentiary. The warden said that the reason McNamara was in solitary confinement was because the latter broke from the line in the yard and refused to go back when or l dered He would be kept there until he showed repentance and reforma- tion, the evidence of which lay in the Wardens discretion. There was also a strong belief that J. B. had been concerned in the murderous "gruh | strike" last spring but the charge was not proved and punishment was | not inflicted on that account.
 U J. is a good prisoner" said Hoyle. "and there is much admira- tion of him, but J. B. has shown 8 rebellous temper. I can assure you that his time in solitary confinement will not be shortened by the visit oi this committed"
 "All we ask is that these men be given a square deal" said Noland. | 'The McNamaras will be given 9 square deal while I am warden oi this penitentiary," said Hoyle. but I must maintain discipline.'