The herald and news. [volume] (Newberry S.C.) 1903-1937, 1912-07-16

owe II TO the people OF SOulu CdIO-
lima to live up to the utterances You
have made, and that 1 have Mr.. Burns
here to substantiate it?''
A. That's correct
o. "He said he was satisfied about
it,"
Tillman's Alleged Comment.
A. Yes, sir. I think his express
sions were just as Col. Fielder has
said. That if We had the evidence to
substantiate the charges we had heard
then he certainly thought that Cover
nor Blease was not entitled to the
confidence of the people of South
Carolina"
@. "State to the committee the
name under which Mr.. Bailey operated
in the city of Charleston and the State
of South Carolina
A. Wilson. My instructions to
Mr. Bailey were to go into that COM
munity and use the subterfuge of
wanting to start high-class gamb-
ling place, where it would bring peo-
pie from all parts of the country into
a crooked gambling scheme. The peo-
pie who were to go there would never
get away with their money. He was
only to play with men with large mon
ey, and that he was to be absolutely
protected. He didn't want to invest
his money unless he had absolute pro-
lection. He did that, all but open the
gambling house. Many people do not
agree with me in using those tactics.
We are perfectly justifable in using
every subterfuge in order to determine
whether or not they are the character
OF men they are charged with being"
Q. "How long did Mr.. Bailey, alias
Wilson, remain in Charleston?''
A. "He was there for number of
months. A long time, and, as you
say, spent lot of your money
Tillman Interview Again.
Q. (By Mr.. Carey.) "Mr. Burns,
to enlarge on this interview with Sen
ator Tillman, the evidence that you
submitted to him, was it satisfactory
to the senator in taking decided po-
sition?'
A. "No, we only gave him a verbal
account of the situation and did not
submit to him any written evidence.
Col. Fielder told him what we had and
what we could show. Col. Fielder ask
ed me if that was right. I am sure
the senator will tell you exactly what
he said to us. My recollection is that
he said if we could substantiate the
charges we detailed to him, then GER
tainly the governor of South Caro-
lima was not entitled to the confidence
of the people"
Q. (By Mr.. Evans.) would this
evidence connect in anyway the pres
ent governor with the affairs of the
State dispensary?"
A. eyes, sir; Col. Felder's state
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ton"
@. (By Senator Clifton) "Mr.
Burns, did your investigation and the
reports made to you by the investiga-
tors under your charge show wheth-
er or not the present governor of
South Carolina was guilty of grating,
either as governor or State senator,
connected with the old State dispen-
sary?"
Wait For Reports Says Burns.
A. "I would prefer that you wait
until you get the reports on that"
@. Reports made to you will show
that?'
A. eyes, sir"
@. "Will show whether the present
governor has been guilty of grating,
either as governor or senator, in con-
nection with the liquor laws of South
Carolina?"
A Eyes, SIR
The committee on the conclusion of
this testimony adjourned until tomor-
row morning at 10 o'clock.
Hundreds at Hearing.
The Richmond county court house
was filled with several hundred spec
tators this morning to hear the testi-
mony of Thos. B. Fielder, who reached
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