The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-02-02
Periured Himself Before Lorimer Investigating
 Committee
USED DICTAGRAPH
 VERY EFFECTIVELY
Wm. ]. Burns and Attorney Hanecy Resume Their Wordy Hostil- ities-Lawyer Censured by
 the Committee

Washingtoa, January 1-How the dicta' graph was used to procure an alleged ed- mission from Charles McGowan, the IIines-Lorinier witness. that he per iureds himself when he swore he did not hear C F. Wiehe tel of Lorimer cleo don fund, WAS explained to the Senate Lerimer committee today by Detective A. C Bailey, a Burns operative, Bailey took the stand alter the fiery cross-eXamra- ton of Detective William J. Burns. He will be eross-eSamined tomorrow
 For nearly two hours Bailey read from notes made from day 10 day of remarks MeGowan was alleged to have made to kailey, posing as a eIaim adjuster of the Ameriean Bridge company. These re- marks were alleged to have been made principally on hunting trip in Canada On ono occasion, the detective said. Me- Gowan told him he had written to Wiene that he mad 10 come across said Me Gowan told him he only asked for S59O0-
 Deserved None .,'You shauld have made it ten, I told him. Bailez swore.
 "'It eertainly is worth 5000 to perjure ones self. " MeGowan was quoted as re- pying
 Later MeGowan was credited with say ing that tc would fix tue whole Hines bunch if they did not come across"
 On anofner day. specifically designated. Bailey said MeGowan remarked that where he made mistake was when he made an affidavit for Shields. The nar1e os R. | Shields had just been used.
 shields Lad a pile of money on lhe table before him when 1 signed the aftl- dayit." MeGowan was quoted as saying.
 Shields said l don't want to give you money for making this affidavit, but we want to do the fair thing with you; tho Hines people have lots of money l on'y took a B bill. was teo green, or would nave taken it all, that is what it was .here for.
 The aefeetve faid of eotng with Ntc- Cowan to Chicago and of McGowan's ai- leeed attempts 10 get money from Wiohe. one night MeGowau was credited with saying he spent as a guest at Hines res'- Genee
 sAYhen Ms Hines saw her husband aal me coming into the house she fainted'
  added McGowan sad Hines told him he would be compensated by Wiehe.
 What Hines Said
 ii was a sorry day for me when met Mir Lorimer," Hines was alleged To have been quoted as saying. On october 2s, Bailey said McGowan left q note for him that everything was en. k" and that he had left for home
 Il was here that Bailcy's services were discontinued by the committee, only to be resumed by tho Chicago Tribune in December. In again com ing in touch with MeGowan, Bailey said he wrote the subject d letter. telling of his presence in Detroit. and his intention 10 visit Toronto.
 The telegraph was placed In a hotel room, prepared for McGowan. We put the disks on table with d cover over it.s Bailey said. MT McGowan will probably recall there was a cover on the table" MeGowan remained silent. In the presence of II. E. Kerr, a brass expert" of Detroit Mich, and with Jimmy Sheridan on tho dicta- graph in an adjoining room. Bailey sWore McGoWan said he got @l0VV rom l Wlehe the day he left Chicago.
 Bailey quoted McGowan as saying that Wiehe wanted to give him only | two or three hundred dollars, but Me | Gowan told him he deserved more than l his expenses for having perjured him l self.
 Burns Wrathy l Wordy hostllities between Detective | William Burns and Attorney Hanecy, senator Lorimers counsel. were re- newed today when Burns was continued nnder cross examination before the Senate committee Investigating Sena- tor Lorimers election
 Burns had attacked the credibility of Charles McGowan, a witness for Lorimer, who had testified relative to alleged conversations about the Slo0,- 900 Jackpot fund to put Lorimer over. Hanecy and Burns got into wrangle as soon as the examination began.
 This man has been bully raging everybody who has been on the wit ness stand" said Burns finally. T don't propose to be lnsulted. If he keeps on I'll tell him something about his reputation
 "Oh, I guess my reputation is all right" interrupted Hanecy
 The committee decided the attorneys must cease using language which could be regarded as insulting. | Attorney Hanecy wanted to know if Burns had given the information upon which press dispatches of January 2l. I1912, announcing his work on the case had been based. Burns said he had l not.