New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-10-05

Welt to suspend for a moment" at that
point and the colonel misunderstood MIN
and half rose from his chair. 49,.
"Oh, I thought you asked me to stand a
minute" he said. laughing.
A recess OF several minutes gave the
colonel an opportunity TO move from the
witness stand He leaned over the COM
mittee table to talk to Chairman Clapp
and then took few steps about the room.
Finally he went back to the stand
Couldn't Be "calIed on
Tho next statement that want to call
YOUR attention to-" said the colonel, rs
that OF Mr.. Archbold that when the Bu-
reau of Corporations began It's invesuga-
ton Of the Standard OIL Mr.. Archooid
went TO Mr.. Bliss to call me Of He tes-
titles that Mr.. Bliss told him: I have no
influence with Mr.. Roosevelt; 1 cannot
help you That statement is only parity
true, for Mr. Bliss did have great In
. fuence with me-. had great respect
for Mr.. Bliss But 1t is true that neither
Mr.. Bliss nor any other human being mad
the slightest influence with me 80 far az
getting me to refrain from prosecuting
any corporation fer breaking the law. All
these men who testify against me testity
that I refused to do or did not do, any
thing improper In their interests. Ana
! they are all now supporting the. candi-
dates against me-thoss who are alive:
Roosevelt said he had a fight with the
Standard Oil Company In 1903. when he
was getting through the Bureau OF Corpof-
atoms BILL adding: Senator Ciapp, you
were in the fight, and SO were you, SEN
ator Paynter, believe
He finally got the bill through. he said
by publishing telegrams sent py the
younger Mr.. Rockefeller. ........-
81 had my first brush with tho stand
ard OIL Company then" he said. and
they knew just what they could expect
! from me-"
Colonel Roosevelt emphasized his state
ment with blows Of his hand on the
witness chair.
1T wish to call your attention to this
fact In connection with Mr.. J. +. Nor
gan's testimony yesterday" he continued
1T was in my first administration that
the Northern Securities case was settled
with a verdict against Mr.. Morgan and
James J. Hill. II was also during my
first administration that / settled the
anthracite coal strike. have understood
/ that Mr.. Morgan expressed vigorously his
dissatisfaction with my attitude In that
case. and / was surprised to md that ne
had contributed to my campaign fund.
No one connected with Mr.. Morgan ever
limited that the contribution had been
made, and no one over limited TO me that
any favor should be shown TO Mr.. Morgan
| for any reason whatever" -..
! Colonel Roosevelt said he first heard OF
Mr.. Morgan's contribution In the testi-
mony yesterday, and he then paid trib-
ute to the late Cornelius ~ Bliss.
Colonel Roosevelt insisted that during
the 1904 campaign Mr.. Bliss had assured
him that no promises. express or I'M
piled" had been made in return for con-
tributions. and that Mr.. Bliss had never
asked him after his election for any
favors for contributors.
Takes Up This Years Campaign.
Colonel Roosevelt asked 10 make
further statement regarding his campaign
this year, and said: :
81 saw the different men who were In
terested In my campaign at Chicago and
before Chicago, and explained explicitly
that would tolerate no effort Of any
kind. by the use OF money or the offer Of
patronage, TO get delegates for me.
THE only time ever saw II charged
was in reference 10 Ormsby McHsrg. I
wrote a letter to him and got an answer.
which / have here "N''s''.- ~ N'''-''
Colonel Roosevelt's letter was written
March 4. 1912, and asked Mr.. MoHarg
"for HIS personal assurance that he had
never used money or other influence to
secure him delegates. =
Mr. McHarg's reply read'in part:
unhesitatinsly say that no reputable
man can say that ever endeavored by
! the use of money or the promise OF
| patronage TO aid your campaign. wish
| TO unequivocally deny that charge.
| know that you would Immediately repu-
date me II did make any such effort
Colonel Roosevelt took up the allega-
ton that 10000 was used In the Pro-
gressive primary campaign.
Mr.. Hilles and Congressman Bartholdt
have made this statement" he said. Il
suggest very strongly that both those
men be called here Immediately and asked
TO produce their proof. Tho man who
bears false witness il guilty Of as In
| famous conduct as the man who steals.
| II Mr. Bartholdt or Mr.. Hilles can prove
their statements they ought 10 be COM
PEELED TO do So II they cannot, they
| ought TO be driven out Of public life"
Wants Other Funds Taken Up.
Colonel Roosevelts voice changed slight
~ as he went on:
Il want to call your attention to tho
fact, gentlemen. that. however unwit-
tingly, the men you have called before
you thus far have all been called to tes-
tify TO contributions to my funds. /
realize that have to make way against
both Of the old parties, but / respectfully
suggest that you call some men who know
about the expenses Of other candidates"
Senator Paynter stated that Chairman
Clapp had made the arrangements for
the committee and that no effort had been
made to treat unfairly" the Roosevelt
campaign.
Our complaint Is not that we were
called here" interrupted Colonel Roose-
welt. but the men who make the charges
were not called first" s...-.s
Colonel Roosevelt demanded that
Charles p. Taft, William b. Mckinley
and also Chairman McCombs and Vice