The Washington times., 1912-10-04

az I have asked you. Now, my dear
SIT. you and ! are practical men. ana d
sond,ons Son sEs on ssas, sss ana know the
"Remember that the word practical
there had reference to, and could only
have reference to. Harriman's being re-
luctant to refuse to visit me, for fear
asked MIN to come.
THE letter continues:
"'If you think there II any danger
II yoS nn Ss S.rs * me saSsSE osns spse.
should be informed about. or no mat
n cali your attention TO the fact that
there Y not hint or suggestion OF
could give aid. The letter continues:
why Of course give up the
visit for the time being. and then a
few weeks hence,'-that IL. after the
ss ses sSs 70 wSr' come down dSx e
cuss certain Government matters not
connected with the campaign.
"sincereiy yours
No Request for Aid.
"You will see that that letter Ii alb
| soiuteiy incompatible with any theory
that ! was asking Mr.. Hartman to
come down In my interests, or intend
ed to make any request for aid from
him. IL was a clear statement that
had nothing to ask Of him. and that
| all I cared TO see him about, could
see him about just as well after the
SIN Mr. Harriman's letters to me,
| and in my letters to him, you can see
| that there is never a reference to my
getting aid, from him In any shape or
Il had written that let,sr to Mr. Har-
riman. and six days later. on OCTOBER
Loeb to call him up. on the telephone'
Mr. Loeb did so. and told me that MT.
Hartman wished to see me about the
State campaign In New York. that y
was running badly: that he beneved
that Mr.. Higgins. the Republican cang
date for governor, would be defeated II
something was not done, and that he
| wished to see me. Through Mr.. Loeb.
I made the appointment with Mr.. Har-
riman. at Mr.. Harriman's request.
Mr.. Loeb Was Present.
"Mr. Loeb was present during all or
most Of the interview. There was no
possibility OF any Misunderstanding
during that interview. l mention that
fact because have seen well mean
ing but rather highty persons say that
| tneTt may nave otth iiStheN'ose"e
| ing. There was not. and there was no
room for a Misunderstanding.
AT that time, a fortnight before the
| election, every one knew that ! was
certain to carry New York. There was
a doubt whether Higgins could: MT.
| Hartman was close to Mr.. Odell, who
was managing Mr.. Higgins campaign:
Mr. Hartman stated, In substance. that
he had to have more money for that
campaign. and that would have TO
! -N-I.v a.. Alx lV.a
and after some conversation ] asked
Mr.. Loeb to call up either Mr.. Bliss or
Mr.. Cortelyou and state what MI. Har.
| riman had said. and ask II II would not
be possible to help him.
Had Spent Enough.
Hartman had stated that he had
borne so much OF the expense that he
could not bear any more. Mr.. Loeb
called up either Bliss or Cortelyou.
and I think the answer was that they
would see what could be done.
Hartman or by. me having any ref
erence to funds for the national cam.
paign. on the, contrary. the request
was from Mr.. Hartman that We helI
him out In the STATE s.sSnrp sSSmpa,srb an That oe.
casion, or at a subsequent occasion
after the election, Mr.. Hartman r
brought up the question OF Mr.. De.
pew being WSde ,nid ,,m .Sas some
his friends or associates had been
anxious to have Mr.. Hyde made am
bassador. Thereupon he at once be-
proposition. He. was very much in:
terested. obviously; for reasons whicl
then did not understand, but which
III ls'rr did understand. II had refer'
the life insurance business. He wa,
very much interested In the informa.
tion that Mr.. Hyde's name was beins
pressed upon me. and explained tha
he was not to be understood as to Mr.
Hyde; and told him did not think
! could appoint either.
| Hyde Was Too Young.
"I remember mentioning that Mr.
Hyde was too young to 20 into the bii
place, and should serve a novitiate. Mr.
Hyde had been recommended to me b.
by a number Of men, including Presi
dent Eliot. OF Harvard. I explaine'
that Mr.. Hyde could not be made al
ambassador; that he must win hi
spurs. / think offered him Venezuels
Which he would not take. daughter.
II wish to call attention to the fac
that Judge Duell. who was assistan
treasurer to Mr.; Bliss, and Mr.. Sheldon
all state explicitly that the none,
was not raised by Mr.. Harrimai
for the national campaign; tina
II was raised through Mr.. Bliss to hel
out Mr.. Hartman In the State cam
J paign.
MIR. Loeb was present during the in
terview with Mr.. Hartman, and h
heard all that passed between Mr.. Har
riman and myself. The letters that
wrote at the time, which are befor
you, show there Is not a shred Of trut
In Mr.. Harriman's statement. Mr.. Har
riman asked me to get Cortelyou an
State campaign. I never asked Harri
man. directly or indirectly, for n dolla