Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1912-03-24

me to do with these men, / think II
would be all right To turn them
loose. They have not done anything
wrong. Are you going to make me
ashamed of our people?' Then Col
onel Jaramilio said: i can't do that.
considered this matter Sor four days,
but i would like to know, how much
money YOU got from Andrews and
who delivered the money to your
Then ! stood up twitness Standing
up) and | said. You can put us out
of the house and you can put us in
the penitentiary but you can't make
us tell something that never happen
ed. | never received any money from
anyone, and the others said the same
thing"
In response to specific questions
from Colonel Prichard. the witness
said that he and Lucero had gone
that night to attend a caucus of the
Spanish American members at the
olnce of Speaker Baca, but when
they got there, had found that some
of the members were not present and
had gone to the Palace hotel to see
lif some of them We're not there. He
said that Senator Holt had passed
while he was sitting in the lobby and
had spoken to him. He denied that
there had been any arrangement to
meet at the Palace hotel that night
and said that Elfego Baca counted
the money out very hurriediy. In re-
gard to the interview in Judge Falls
room Saturday, the witness said:
we were sitting in the bar at the
Palace hotel, between and. 3 o'clock.
when Elfego Baca called MS up to
have a drink. lie then said: 4 want
to see You in my room with Judge
FAIL He had introduced us to Judge
Fall, who was with him. We then
went up there and he said. My
friends, you know the treachery that
was played on me in the last election.
If it is possible that | can he elected
to the senate, | would be a great hon
or to our people in the halls of con-
gress and | believe | can be elect
ed.
Then Judge Fail came in and Ell
fego Baca said: This man is your
friend, and Judge Fall said: All right
if you can at your caucus select a
good man as your candidate. | be-
lieve many Americans will vote for
him, and he mentioned the name OF
Senator Holt and some others, but
do not remember the others, but LI
remember he mentioned Senator Holt |
for | know Senator Holt. Then Judge |
Fall said: Will you be able to give
me your support?' Then Montoya
said 1 am going to help the man
who helps me- and Judge Fall left,
and Elfego Baca followed out Of the !
room and then we all left"
on cross examination. the witness |
said that he had been at Andrews |
house just before going to the hotel |
and had walked across the street to |
the hotel He emphatically denied |
having had any personal conversation |
with Elfego Baca at any time except |
on the two occasions to which he had |
testified.
Solomon Luna was the first witness |
called at the hearing this afternoon |
and he told practically the same story |
as other witnesses of the proceedings ,
NJ the meeting of the executive COM
mitt e. wren the trap was planned.
i,eifsior II. - Hpit Was a seeou. .ss- I
ness. He also told of the proceedings
at the executive committee meeting |
and said that he had written out the |
in his room at the sani-
Ierium Monday evening and had gone
TO the room of Senator John S. Clark
IN the Palace hotel with them, and |
Colonel Jaramillo and Joe Sena had |
come for them after the trap had /
been sprung. Holt denied that it was =.
A trap to catch these men. but said
he plan was arranged to discover II
hey were guilty and to test their
honesty. He said that the first infor-
nation he received of the charge
against the men was from Judge
Fall.
Holt said that the republican mem
bers of the house and senate on sat
urday afternoon, March l6, discussed
the advisability of holding a caucus ,
on the senatorial situation and that
he had suggested issuing a call for a
,aucus to become effective only IL
signed by all the republican members. =
He said that he had asked Judge Fall ,
'or his stenographer to prepare the 5
,alI and ii was then that he heard /,
IF the bribe charges and that this lead !
% the abandonment of the attempt I
10 call the caucus.
n. O. Bursum was called to the I
tand and said he told of having been
informed Of the charge boy Elfego
3aca and said that he had suggested
o Baca that ii would he better to &,
rap only one of the men, but Baca
lad insisted that all four should be !,
implicated.
Charles Springer was not called to
he stand, as he was compelled to-
cave the city today on account of the ;
leath of relative. Judge Wright :
aid that Springer's testimony was :
merely .corroborative of other wit !
lesses and that he knew nothing of .
he actual happenings In room "A on
Monday night. Is