Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-10-13

sition to insist. didn't mean to say that
l had insisted"
You didn't tell schepps in your let
No
when you wrote him your worry was
| to get him to come in and get the same
benefits you got: What We're those bene-
fts?''
Mr. steuer and Mr.. Sullivan said
| We would get protected if we told the
truth
Didn't You sign a paper that If you
would testify against Becker you would
not be prosecuted.
Il signed a paper
And that was the protection you want
Yes
Furnished ScheppS' Address.
Rose said he gave Schepps' address to
the district attorney the day after he
| mailed the letter.
Did you feel that Schepps had no
chance?"
From the turn affairs were taking I
know that nobody had a chance. / knew
| that l had asked Schepps to be with
me when I paid the money, that I had
involved him in the case, and L wanted
| to get him out"
| the law that you cannot convict man
on the testimony of accomplices and that
confederation would be necessary for
| your story?"
What did you mean, if you think
Schepps was innocent by saying that the
electric chair stares all in the face?'
II didn't believe it stared us all in the
| face
Then you lied when you said that?"
shouted Mr.. Mcintyre.
II know that We We're all involved"
protested Rose.
Did Did y you arrange a.. for immunity for
| District Attorney Whitman interrupted
| to say that Rose had not made any
immunity arrangement himself and had
| testified to that effect
Il object to this question: he exclaim-
ed. Justice Golf, however. allowed Rose
| to answer
His retort was an emphatic NO"
Mcintyre Near Collapse.
Here Mr.. Mcintyre asked for an ad-
jcurnment.
II am tottering on my feet" he said.
II feel that 1 may collapse at any mo-
ment The strain has been great and I
am not superhuman.
Il feel that it is in the interest Of JUS
| tice that the crOsS-eXaminatOn should
proceed replied Justice Golf. Il gave
| you fair warning both yesterday and to-
day" 1t was then after o'clock and
| the witness haO Deen unOer cfOSSleXaml-
| nation for four hours.
Didn't you get down on your knees in
| the Tombs prison." finally resumed Mr..
Mcintyre. land swear to Charles Pitt
| on the grave Of your dead mother that
Becker had nothing to do with the muir
der?''
II did not"
Didn't you say to Jack Sullivan that
your only way to beat the case was to
frame up Becker?
Il did not
Self-Preservation Natures Law.
Didn't you say to Jack Sullivan in the
counsel room of the Tombs: 'Self-preser-
walton is first law of nature?
II did not. l had no such conversation
with Sullivan"
Rose added that he had seen Sullivan in
the west side prison, but that Sullivan
did all the talking"
Did you receive any money while you
were in the Tombs?'
II did not"
Did you meet WALTON and Weber in
the Tombs?"
Yes; our lawyers were there. too"
you We're taken to Mr.. Whitmans Of
flee, weren't your?
Eyes, and had a talk with him there. /
saw Deputy Police Commissioner Dough-
erty first
Ibid you tell Dougherty that you had
| uOlulLS W w Will tLC AiuluOA e1uo AuCW
nothing of it,"
II did"
Did you tell him that Becker had
nothing to do with the murder?"
Yes
when you told him that. did you ie?"
II was there to protect Becker"
Didn't you He?'' shouted Mr.. McIn-
tyre.
Rose Admits Lie.
why. yes: did," Rose faltered. 1t
was the first time that he had done SO
during the day.
Did you tell Dougherty that you never
collected any money for Becker"
Yes
Eyes; l lied
when did you first know that you
were wanted for murder?'
"On the morning Of July 49," he said.
II read it in the newspapers.
Did you take it seriously?''
mo: didn't
"And when did you give yourself up?"
THAT same day"
Golf Allows Question.
Again and again Mr.. Mcintyre thrust
home to the witness the question: Did
you lie them" and almost as often Rose
nodded his glistening bald head and ad-
mitted that ne had not told the truth.
District Attorney Whitman sought futile
ly by his objections to check this line
of examination. Once or twice he was
sustained, but generally Justice Golf al
lowed the question.
"Dougherty didn't give me square
DEAL" Rose volunteered Il made state
ment to him and he didn't write it down
like I made it. He put down parts of 1t
such parts as he thought he wanted to
go down and left out what he did not
like"
when did you make your confession
to the district attorney" asked Mr.. McIn-
tyre.
Il didn't confess to him. I confessed
to the grand jury
Terms of Immunity.
Mr. Mcintyre fought hard to get on the
record the sort and terms of immunity
granted Rose, Schepps and WALTON. Time
after time the accused policeman's coun-
sci was interrupted in the middle of a