Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-18

OF something little broader Jnak
that IL We can get IL Suppose Ne
appoint the Governor from the Isl
ands II we can find the proper man;
and IL we can't find the proper mar
here to take q man from the main
land. Is that lit
Motley: We ought to have q man
come here from the mainland. As q
Hawaiian, I think that Is the only
way out Of this trouble
Fisher: Why don't you think We
could find man here on the islands,
Motley: Well. they are all little
too closely connected and interested;
and the poor Hawaiians are simply
pressed. pressed, pressed. and today
that Is the cry.
Fisher: Now: II this Governor
were appointed as you sggest. do you
think he ought to appoint the Public
Utilities Commission?
Motley: No. I think the President
should appoint them. ! am not afraid
of carpet baggers."
Fisher: You think that all the
people here. except the Hawaiians
are carpet baggers? 2"
Motley: All except the Hawaiians,
that is just 1t.
Fisher: Suppose we had such 9
Governor and such q commission Of
good men. what should We 20 then!
Motley: When We get those peO-
pie here, give the lands back to the
HaWaiians.
Fisher: All OF them?
Motley: would think that 40
acres would be the minimum area TO
give to any one Hawaiian.
Fisher: And without any obliga,
ton?
Motley: think the 800 Year Lease
Is the best propositions p give to the
Hawaiian.
Fisher: Would yoI exclude al
other nationalities fTpa, owning land
in Hawaii?
Motley: No. But think the Ha-
Waiian ought to Be treated 3 little
better than any other nationality
Fisher How would you 80 about
treating him . little better2
Motley: Well. q think the home
steader ought to- pc given 2 little
money.
Fisher: How as you think we
ought to let him have the money, Is
i loan. as an opt@tsht Sin, Of, how2
Motley: Let The cpmmittee handle
Fisher: wen. Ii the money were
appropriated by the Territorial Leg
islature for tho purpose. would yol
have man stand at the door Of the
City Hall and hand It out 70 the peo-
pie, or WIS would you do?
Motley: would do this. II the
l,bmesteadef takes up the land under
the 999 Year Lease, believe the
COMMITTEES ought to help him to get
& house to 90 on ito the homestead,
about $500 house, and then supply
him with 500 q month.
Fisher. Give It to him In cash ?
And let him spend It as he wanted {
Motley; Let tie oommieisopers
give It. to him as they saw TT, and
ACCORDING 10 q law.
Fisher: How H. 1t possible for one
set of men to feeulate the way an
other set Of men should spend their
money turned over to them. OF
course, you could take their lands
away. Would you be In favor Of
that?
& Motley: should think it would be
given to him BY the month.
Fisher: That is the way We do.
With the Indians on the mainland in
part; we dole 1t out to them They
don't Ike to work very hard; they
would rather take the money and
spend It instead Of working on the
land. This reservation takes In some
Of the finest land In the United States.
Motley: Yes, know that. But zin-
der the homestead law the commits
si0ners would have q right to take the
land away from them, II he didn't live
up to the requirements.
Fisher: If he didn't live up to the
requirements, take 1t away from him?
Motley: Yes
Fisher: If man failed to live up
to the law. would you give him anoth-
er chance?
Motley: Yes. give them another
chance.
Fisher: Would you keep on in an
endless circle, or what would you do?
Motley: This cutting them short
is what troubles them all just now.
Fisher: You think man should be
given start. and II he is able to raise
money on his note, and Is willing to
work hard and is protected In regard
TO transportation, If he really wanted
to work. do you think he would be
able to make good?
Motley: There would be no trouble,
none whatever.
Fisher: What is the matter with 1t
now: why don't we get more work out
Of them now?
Motley: Out Of who?
Fisher: Out Of the general public.
What Is the matter?
Motley: They haven't got the land.
Fisher: THERE are q lot Of lanss
that have been opened for some years
which are stfll open and available
why are they not taken up; what do
you think is the Trouble?
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