The Sentinel=record., 1912-09-22

 | named as one of the witnesses who would support the framework on which the delay was based Yet when Commissioner Huff yesterday after noon called Sullivan to the stand, John | w. Hart, counsel for Becker. made the I statement to the commissioner that he | would be willing to withdraw the name of Sullivan from the list of wit nesses if the commissioner would | consent Commissioner Huff hesitated
 and suggested that he had been order | ed to take certain evidence from cer-s
 tain witnesses, and doubted his au- thprity to excuse witnesses from the interrogatories. MT. Whitman stated
 that there might be doubt on the face of the whole commission if a portion of | 1t were left out. Commissioner Huif | ruled that Sullivan would be asked the interrogatories.
 1t was then that Counsel Hart and Associate Counsel L. E. Sawyer. of this city, asked time to have a brief au- | dience with Sullivan. which was grant.
 ed, and then Sullivan was placed on | the stand.
 Alderman Tom J. Petit made a gen. eral denial in his statement that 6chepps had said anything here ex-' culpating Becker, and made the broad statement that Schepps never mention | ed Becker's name in all the various | talks they had.
 But Pttit did offer some new ev- | idenee when he stated that Schepps 1 told him that the only man who knew | where he went when he left New York, and who kept in touch with him, was an attorney by the name of Sulli- van. Petit said that Schepps talked about leaving New York after the Rosenthal killing, and Sullivan told him to get away. and go as far as possible and he came to Hot Springs, Speaking of Burns, Sullivan said: T was over in the office on Sunday morning, 1 don't know the hour, and
 gentleman crossed over from the back door of the Marquette hotel and came in and asked if my name was i Sullivan. 1 told him that was my
 name, and he said his name was G. D. | Burns He then asked me if l could show him the files of the papers with | the articles concerning Schepps, and got him the papers and while l was showing them to him he asked me if 1 it was possible. or he said it might | be q theory, or 1t might be a fact that | in this case if Herman Rosenthal was
 killed in New York in front of the Hotel Metropole that this gang whom he mentioned, Jack Rose, Bridgie Weh. Der, Harry Vallon and Frank Shapiro. and 1 can't remember the other names | Jy .otA 1.u l sl,,I l and that Rose through little gang feud and that they killed him, and he
 said Don't you know that If any #
 the gang had telephoned to Police
 Lieutenant Becker that Rosenthal had
 been killed that Becker would have
 upbraided them and said that they
 all ought to have been in Sing Sing
 or some where else If they had murder
 ed a man He asked me point blank
 after he had asked me that question
 if sammy Schepps had said anything
 that would tend to show that Rosen- thai had not been killed by Becker's
 instigation and as to whether or not Sammy Sehepps had made any state
 ment that would tend to show that Becker had any connection at all with the actual murder of Rosenthal or tha, knew who did the killing until he was notified by party over the tele- phone, 1 think MT Burns mentioned the name of the man who used ,he telephone and notified Becker of tne killing"
 c. Who was it.
 A. fBridgie Webberp
 And he asked me again if MT | Schepps had not said to me that Becker had nothing to do with the Killing and was at home at the time that the shooting of Rosenthal occur red and did not know anything about 1t until after the automobile had been carried away. l told him that in all my conversations with Schepps it had looked like that lie did not want to say anything about the killing and il he had been present il looked like to me that Schepps WAS protecting him. He had refused to give statements be- cause he did not wish to implicate him self or any one else mixed up in the Killing of Rosenthal, and therefore could not give him anything that \ would help him. And then he asked me~aeain point blank if Schepps had nortold me that Becker was not pres | ent when the murder was committed c. What was your answer?" A. T told him that he had not told me anything of the sort"
 O Did you make an affidavit f6r him
 A. No, sir"
 Q. Did he ask you to make an afhdsvlt?r
 A. Yes sir, three or four times" @, ''IIe asked yon to make m afii- davit more than once?H
 A. Yes sir. three or four times. ? q. Did Schepps ever say to you i that the murder was the result of q feud or a gamblers quarrel"