New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-10-08
G|bS0N'S FATE HANGS
ON WOMAN'S STORY
Notification of Rose Guerra's
Statements Means Chair for
Lawyer, GoIdzier Admits.
ELDER SAYS SHE'S INSANE
State Withholds Newly Discov-
cred Facts Until It Gan
Obtain Supporting
Witnesses.

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Charles Goldzier. associated with Rob-
ert II. Elder as counsel for Burton w.
Gibson. charged with the murder OF Mrs,
Rosa Szabo. said yesterday that II Rose
Guerra is telling the truth I'm regard TO
Gibson her testimony would undoubt-
| eddy result In the conviction OF his eli
ent. Rose Guerra is the woman brought
back from Wilkes Barre Saturday night
by Deacon Murphy. OF District Attorney
Whitman's staff, after she had made a
detailed statement to him admitting that
she was the woman whom Gibson had
hired to sign the false waiver OF citation
In his favor as executor Of Mrs SZabo's
Will, posing as Mrs. Petronella Menschik.
II cannot assume that Rose Guerra is
telling the truth or Is even sane.' said
Mr.. Goldzier. but II what she has been
reported as saying is true and can be
proved against Gibson ne will undoubt-
eddy go to the electric chair
1t Is known that the District Attorneys
assistants have in their possession the
means Of establishing absolutely whether
or not the woman Is telling the truth.
This evidence was not entirely divulged
yesterday, but II was said at the District
Attorneys office there was no doubt that
the false waiver Of citation was signed by
Rose Guerra.
Although Mr.. Murphy. who has inme-
date charge of the case as deputy as
sistant, would not go into that phase Of
the case specifically. he made a guarded
statement last night as to just how much
the woman's testimony meant In the case
against Gibson.
Our Investigations have convinced u.s."
he said, that the woman's story is very
important. There is a great number OF
details that must be carefully checked
up, and until this has been done It Is I'M
possible to come 10 any final conclusion
as to the truth or fasty OF her story.
In the course of a few days she will be
confronted with Donald Lyons, before
whom she claims she acknowledged the
signature Of Petronella Menschik to the
waiver OF citation. In order to show her
good faith she had furnished US with
specimens OF her handwriting and sigma
lures, which are now I'm the hands of
handwriting experts, who will report their
findings within the next day or two"
n was planned TO bring Daniel Lyons
before the woman last night. but this was
delayed. 1t is known that the woman In
her full statement duplicates others with
Gibson In the various cases brought for
ward against him. and that at least one
other OF these. frightened at the revela-
tons so far made. has expressed n will
ingness 10 tell all he knows.
Robert N. Elder, Gibson's counsel. stuck
to his attitude yesterday OF making light
of Rose Guerra's importance in the ar
fairs of his client. saying that he knew
all about her antecedents and life. and
asserting that she was insane. He assert
ed that there was one test to her re-
liability that the prosecution was afraid
to apply 10 her. but would give no inkling
OF what this magic test might be.
II was learned yesterday by the Dis
trict Attorneys investigators that
woman known by the name Of Rosie
and who apparently was Rose Guerra,
formerly lived in the apartment at nth
street and Columbus avenue. In which
Helen Taylor was murdered by a bomb.
She boarded there with a Mrs. Gonzales.
but little was known OF her except THAI
a man who wore glasses and answered
Gibson's description In some details was
with her a great deal. II was said that
Mrs. William Classon, wife OF the janitor
OF the building. could Identify Rosie" II
she saw her. and she will be taken before
Rose Guerra probably to-day.
District Attorney Rogers, OF orange
County, who is prosecuting the murder
charge against Gibson. got Mr.. Murphy
on the long distance telephone yesterday,
and learned all he knew In regard to
Rose Guerra.
Mr. Rogers told Mr.. Murphy that he
had received a hurry call from Gibson
to have a conference In his cell. Mr..
Murphy expected him to let him know
last night what the result Of this con-
ference YVES. but failed TO hear from
Rogers again Mr.. Rogers made an APP
pointment with Murphy to meet him here
tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock to go
over the case with him.
Mr. Wasservogal. assistant District At
torney. said yesterday that he believed
the woman was telling the truth.
II spent three hours with her." he said.
going over every detail OF her story.
From the way she answered questions put
TO her In the presence Of a stenographer.
without reserve, I am convinced she was
telling the truth and that she IL sane"
Mr. Wasservogel would not 60 into the
details Of the womans story. but indlcat-
ed that II was an amazing narrative that
would strengthen to a remarkable degree
the case against Gibson.
Among one of the most important wit
nesses to be called by the District Attor-
ney In establishing Rose Guerras iden-
tity will be Joseph Young. Of No. IL Will
lam street, who was her counsel In the
transactions whereby Gibson Is accused
of using her to cheat Hugh Trainor, an
aged awning maker out OF $4,000. Mr..
Young said yesterday that he would be
able to remember the woman. and that ne
was willing to assist the District Attorney
I'm the case. He had before refused to
divulge the address Of the woman ne
knew as Rose Guerra. and had dealings
with. although he admitted In court that
he knew II.
lBy Telegraph to The Tribune.l
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