The Sentinel=record., 1912-05-18
SAID JUDGE WANTED BIT"
ARCHIBALD WAS TO GET BE- TWEEN sto,ooo AND st5,ooo IF
 SETTLEMENT WAS MADE.
Roland on the Stand Makes Some Sensational Disclosures in Inquiry Into Judicial Acts of the
 Commerce Court.

WaSnnBton, May l.-C. G. Roland brother of W. P. Roland, author of charges against Judge Archibald, of the commerce court, was a witness today before the house committee on judiciary which is inquiring into the allegations against the jurist.
 Roland gave testimony relating to negotiations participated in by Judge Archibald to settle out of court liti- gation between the Marion Coal Co. and the Delaware, Laekawanna < Western railroad. and to dispose of the interests of the Bolands in the Marion Coal Co. to the railroad com pany.
 In this connection Roland declared that Geo M. Watson, a lawyer. who led in the negotiations, had declared that Judge Archibald should be com pensated for his part to the extent of $10,000 or S15,000.
 Tlpugh lBoland admitted he did not know Judge Archibald had asked for compensation, should the propos- ed sale be consummated he said Wat son had told him the jurist should get compensation, as should eertain officials of the Lackawanna railroad who were aiding in the transaction Roland told of his refusal to dis count q note for $500, signed by Judge Archibald for Edward J. Williams while litigation of the company was pending in the commerce court { Later, he said Williams had told him he had made d mistake in To- fusing to discount the note and that he could have saved the Marion com pany the court costs had he acted differently
 The witness said the Bolan0s sought to dispose of their interests in the company to get rid of litiga- tion and that Judge Archibald offer ed to help them settle their difficult ties out of court and aid Attorney Watson to dispose of their interests, They authorized Watson to offer their interests for $10O,000, Watson to get $5,000 commission.
 A conference was arranged, Bo- land said, by Judge Archibald, with officials of the Delaware, Lackawan- na & Western at which Watson rais- ed the price to S140,O00 or $160,000. which President Truesdale of the railroad company refused to pay ending the negotiations.
 As to Watson's reasons for increas ing the prices $4O,O00 or $60'OOO in excess of the Bolands' offer, the wit ness said Watson told him certain persons had to be paid if the deal went through, among them Judge Archibald.
 Just what did Watson tell you about Judge Archbald's part in sae matter and concerning compensation for the judge?" Representative Lii tleton asked the witness. Did he say that the judge had ever sad how much he ought to be compen- sated?"
 I'm not sure" said Roland,
 Did Watson ever indicate that taf judge had named any sum-
 My understanding now Is that ! was sl0,000 to si5000, but I'm no sure, said Roland.
 Do you know anything about scheme to entrap Judge Archibald
 No, I do not know anything pa tieular about the Katydid culm deal, said Roland
 Chairman Clayton asked furthe about the division of the 9roht from the sale of the Marion eompah! to the I.aekawanna as outlined b Attorney Watson.
 Did you understand that Juus Archibald was to get sl0000 If tn property was sold at S40OO0 in eX cess of the price you asked, and sie' 900 if Watson succeeded in gettln4 Se0.000 in excess?" the ohalrinal asked.
 That was my understanding VI from Watson, said Roland
 Did Judge Archibald ever say any thing beyond the fact that he woui assist in disposal of your interests asked Representative Littleton
 No"
 Edward I. Williams was recane to allow him to correct his test'mon