Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-10-02


We're these applicants on the Moania
lands informed that they could apply
~ Wood Valley?
Governor: Why. think they were
The Land Commissioner replied TO
tfeir applications and told them that
the Moaula lands would not be open
&c
Fisher; Were they told that the
Wood Valley lands would be?
Governor: Tie Wood Valley was
a6yestised for two months or so.
Fisher: Don't you think II would
ke a good idea if the Governor should
instruct the Land Commissioner to
take a more adhesive manner in
asses of this sort.
Governor: That may be.
Ashford Is ii not a fact that the
applications for the Moaula lands had
been on file for years before YOU open
ca the Wood Valley tract?
Governors: The application for the
Moaula lands was made in November
1910. first there had been a prelimin-
cry application. but the application in
tie proper form was made in Novem-
Der. 1910 and il was during that month
that the Land Commissioner and Wis
tied the district and decided TO open
IN the Wood Valley lands and the idea
vas to have the Wood Valley lands
Immediately opened, but a surveyor
could not be found on account OF the
surveys in other places, but We tried
to employ an additional surveyor TO
Law out the Wood Valley lands, but
were unable to until about -four
nontbs later in 1911, early in 1911.
Fisher: When were the surveys
completed?
Governor: The surveys were COM
pletedg think in July 1911 Then
there were some changes to be made
They were not made until the l4ani'
{ ommiss ioner and went over in Sep
TENDER and then advertisement was
made of the drawing.
Ashford: / find here that the first
al plication was made in June 1910 in
formally, and formally in 1919, Novem-
Ter 1910 by 81.
| would like to ask the Governor at
this point as to what he considers his
obligations when thirty-one applicants
apply for land--twenty-five being the
number provided by statute--if he con-
sidered that he might then make a
substitute some, miles away.
Statute Provision. lint Il.
Governor: The statute expressly
provides-that is, the Organic Act
that the Governor shall upon applica-
ton, open up lots anywhere in the
same district, but not necessarily the
particular lands applied for.
Ashford: And would you constitute
the word district to mean the District
of Kau?
Governor: | think So They were
not only in the. same district. but on
] the same plantation.
Ashford: At what distance?
Governor: About six miles; one is
at one end and the other at the other
end of the plantation.
Ashford: Then when you finally de
termined to open up Wood Valley in.
tstead of Moaula, what means did you
take Of notifying the Moaula people
that there would be binds opened up
Fisher: would like to know that
| too.
Governor: The Land Commissioner
wrote them. 4
! Fisher: Find the files; the date is
sufficient.
| Fisher: Well, / think that is sufft
cient ON the Moaula lands, Mr.. Ash
ford This question of surveys have
you some practical suggestion to make
as to the Improvement of this survey
ing business, so that you can gel
! quicker action. can appreciate, how
ever, that surveying has to be care
fully done.
Difficulties Of Survey.
Governor: Just to illustrate, Mr.
Secretary. The other day you went
over the Haiku lands. That looked
like, very small proposition. 1t was
pretty open country. 1t was not GOV
cred with jungle and there weren't
precipices and one thing and another
and the slope was not very steep.
Fisher: No, but it was broken sur
face. !. ~ ..:-
Governor: And it did not appeal
that there were very many private ii
ties. Now, when the exchange was
made, the plantations which owned
that land told us that there weEe
three or four kuIeanas-that is, little
holdings-in the tract: that is all they
knew of. We sent our best surveyor
up there for such cases, Hawaiian
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