The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1912-09-10

ehson, Hawaiian aud Portuguese,
How " Oct AmenoAnag
- That scents 10 mo matter ~ la,
puilAlre You have expressed, that " h
desirable W ael Angie AaNoaa Ia he,
ecme nsed larl oi The popuiNllen. IA
has hothesed NE 90 ascertain how that
can w brought about You nav yUu
wuuld not put any discrimination In the
law You say the lands should he omen
10 hhmehleAdeH, those who wore Amer,
irnnAl these whN hhd declared them
relvep willing " heenme ~, With that
state W facts ana With the Americans
unO0 lnlleh away AMI Che liawallana,
Iuftunnehe and 1apnnebe on the
WollN how are you going ~ prevent
| no 10000 ROfcn helng taken 40 by
these tlHlt on the groNndtil
| " don't think there are enounh neo,
PIE here TO lehe them up, bNid Mt.
| Ashford,
uyou don lhluh there arc seven
hundred people here who could take up
those landau
tiN0,p
"fhrn how would you aei tho Amer.
lean farmers hefef'
~ think " you adyerlihe tho fact
thht those landh were omen for allot.
"Wh. '""iN WohN wv iNf proportion
IOf Americans that would come here,
There might he land nahen, hut 4
d0n'l hnOw We cAn only pllpnn,
non the mainland, said Mr. iclaher,
w had such things M YOU apoak Of,
but the American farmer In not coming
here 10 participate In rush. We now
open the public lands almost entirely
Ny drawings Now, suppose WI ahOuld
adopt tint system here, You regard II nm
n desirable melhodth
think boh
"Whai do you think Of tho Ho,onllod
settlement association plant IL II good
or MOTIF
"ll Ia goOdn
GLOW would you take cnfr Of that, ~
inquired the Secretary, uirhofe might
lao nifty come In under tho npaocIatlon,
ilhn mud only twenty-five auoeoed,
wouldn't that break mp tho aasocia.
il0nt'
seems 10 me n fair consideration
No adjust and there might be detnila 10,
provide for this melbod,h
Constructive tdeaH Wanted.
"'rhat IN what | want 10 got at.
what would bo helpful ~ Hawaii. Tho
only thing that win be- Of any uee 10
me or 10 Hawaii are constructive aug,
Hebll0nH ana ! want 10 take some ~
lheae ihlnRH you Huegeni aud ascertain
" they are practical, For instance, tho
uovefnOf has said In interviews 10
winch you have called my attention, ho
has referred 10 various efforts M home.
stealing M fakes, ana he has dwolt
upon them m 10 D0nTeHldenCe,b said
Mr., Fisher
"lt seems 10 me II should be ronsble
10 get considerable number Of per.
Sons from The mainland ~ sund nm
agent here ~ make n selection Of lands,
hnd for that purpose " would bo we'll
10 maintain The idea Of settlement nHs
B0elhilOn,b explained Mr., Ashford.
nv ye are rot leglsloling on ".
think tho association mn excellent idrn.
There In no such rush " applicants 10.
day m 10 leave N out Of llle question.
do not see why they should not have
lands assigned 10 them, Tho Governor
Says this createH n monopoly, but why
not Every man who gelH n Homestead
bns n monopoly on w.,
Does N mol 40 deeper than ibRtTu
gnefled tho Secretary, - YOU want tho
association Idea preserved, You would
discriminate IN the Inv m 10 what CON
hlliuleh ~ aAH0elGilOnY"
nNo,u
"Now this fundamental thought OF
yours, tho placing OF Anglo liaNOns, In
~ bu ene0ufhRed said Mr., Fisher.
- Y0u state IN your brief M n matter
~ Inv that the Governor llhB no 1IBnTa.
lion 10 refuse M application for mn ms
H0elntl00, How Hfe you going 10 pro.
serve any Of these $4,000 nGfeH for
mainland Immigrants " amy association
OF llhwhlahH, Portuguese and Japanese
applies for ~ Such associations mp
plying would have tho hight ~ man
Janus ihe Governor 10 give them tho
lhndHi -
Here Mr. Ashford gracefully retreat.
cd ny saying that there wefB lAwyefa
WHO believed he, Ashford, WIS wrong
w hlB contention regarding association
lights, continuing ~ don't consider
u ~ Tie nfh Importance 10 divide
these lHndH among American citizens,
but II In doing M wa can gel large
hpnnltlinp 0f Americans from The main.
lnn1 we'll aud good, There may bp
llnleullleb, but I DOM SOC why an
American community on the mainland
could moi be represented by an agont.U
" Then you DO mol lny emphasis upon
llhtlnH hb American pOpnlhllOn,"
urged M Fisher "hlll0ugI only
tnVll hnlH hHo 1un Huo'pn hepIH0
Washington about having only Amari
eanH on guard, I want 10 exhaust that
matter IN other words, yOn wefo
ihqn drawing u distinction between tho
Anglo. H1A0n by llneaae, mud il0Hg
whom yOu could regard ~ plllneDH,b
y would moi consider ballns In that
elhHHl fienll0nu explained the Dele
gates attorney, ibul ! Would moi o.
elIde llhwulhnH from among those who
hfe entitled hA Americans 10 get
lands,
- " You pursued your idea ~ 10 ma
f1phll0nH, lDW would you be able 10
poi immigrants from The mnluhndf
/ Would you by Inv nye illn u0yefn0f
observation 10 favor lbemf' persisted
M Fisher
~ could mol any whit proportion
el0nl1 Le from De mhlglpiid,' sud
MI Ashford, shifting h'l'lle question
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