The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-10-19

for a while they left in Becker's auto
mobile. They dropped Terry at the
Thirty-third street entrance to the Hudson
tunnels. after which Sullivan and Becker
drove down town to the World.
Becker went into the newspaper office
and Sullivan waited outside. having a
soda in Perry's. When Becker reap
peared from the World office Sullivan
drove back up town with him. he said
and got out at Sixth avenue and Forty
second street. He left there. he said
because he had $50 that he wanted to
give to Sam Paul as payment of a loan
and he expected to find Sam Paul in
Webber's gambling house.
Mr.. Mcintyre interposed here to suG-
gest to the court that since Sullivan
was under indictment for murder it would
be fair TO instruct him that he could refuse
to answer any question put to him. JUS
tice Gof complied, but Sullivan shook
his head.
He was more than eager to talk. Pre-
viously he had been making little spe ech
AS the answer to most questions. When
Justice Gof asked him if he was willing
to answer. he shouted:
Il certainly ami"
when Becker left you. continued Mr..
turn"
Toward Broadway
Sullivan then described how he had
failed to find Sam Paul at Webber's; how
I, he had gone to soda water fountain
IN the Cohan Theatre building and how
while there he had heard the shots. The
soda clerk wds excited and Sullivan
yelled at him TO watch the cash register
He took on his scarfpin and put it in his
undershir: because he knew the mob
that was ont there
He struggled against the objections o!
MT Moss to tell what Rose and others had
said to him about the killing of Rosentha
and to tell what Rose and others had said
previous to the murder
Admonishes Justice Gon.
Look here" he said to Justice Goff
n you will let me tell this story my way
~ tell you all you want to know about
this frame up"
Mr.. Mcintyre then tried to show by
Suilivan's testimony that the informers
lying about Becker to save themselves
ana that they had tried to get Sullivan
10 JON them. promising him immunity
me testimony along these lines was
explosive:
! .. On the 2ath day Of July did you tall
In the Tombs with Rose when Webber and
Nallon were present? A. Yes.
! q. Where was that conversations A. IL
the counsel room.
.. Who we're there? A. We were alon'
ten minutes before the counsel came in
=. Who were you alone with? A. Jacl
Rose. He spoke TO me.
q. Did he say that Mr.. Whitman and Mr.
James NJ. sullivan had written stipulation
aud that If you would saueal Mr. Whitman
would turn You out? A. Yes.
q. Did he say that Harry Vallon. Webbel
and yourself were In bad? A. Not myself
My name was not mentioned. He sale
Webber and Vallon were In bad. that they
had the chair facing them aud that they
wanted to implicate Becker--&bat that wal
their only hope.
O. Did you say. who arc you going 4
squeal op?" and did he say they were goini
to saheal on Becker? A. He told mo the!
were going to frame Becker up and
The Court-Halt! Strike that out. Yo,
must answer questions as they arc put ant
not volunteer information.
Y. Did Rose or their accusers say to you
You know the newspapers are howlinl
about Becker and Whitman wants Becker
SO am going to squeal"? A. No. he didn'
say that. he said he was going to fran,
him up.
The Court-Strlke that out.
| Y. Did you say to Rose: You bald headeS
-. you are up to your old game again
You are trying to frame somebody againi'
and did Rose say to you: We've got (,
frame Whitman, Waldo. the Mayor an,
everybody else to get out OF here? A
Yes. that's just what he said.
y. Did you see Rose again2 A. Yes
in thefifty third street prison on August q
a. Who were there? A. Rose. Vallol
and Webber. Schepps was brought uI
later
=. Did you then get q letter from Mr.
Moss. the Assistant DistrictA ttorney? A
I got friendly letter. Want 1t read L
the jJry2
The Court-Strike that out.
q. Did Rose say Self -preservatio
is the first law Of nature'" A. Sure Nj
brndder. Bridgie anu Bridgie's wife hear,
him too.
.. Did Rose say he was going to franz
up on Becker2 A. Sure. He said he wa
clever enough to
The Court-Strike that out.
Did you mingle with each other in tn
West Side PRISON."
objection sustained. as were all cues
tlons relative to their comminyline Il
prison.
Nothing 10 DO With Murder.
Q. Did you have anything to do wit
the murder of Rosenthnl9 A. No. and MI
Whitman knows that. He said he wa
willing TO sign an affidavit l didn't hav
any more to do with It than his baby.
y, krause. the waiter, says that yo
looked at the body OF Rosenthal and smiiec
Did YOU? A. No. didn't.
Y. xSoaass AAys yeA aoAks - eos q q