The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1912-10-26
H0CK|N OFFERED
TO sQUEAL on ALL
They've Got Me, But I Don't
Want to be the
Only One.

Indianapolis. Ind. Oct. 2s.-Her-
bert s. Hockin. defendant in the
dynamite conspiracy" trial, who sue
ceeded John j. Mcnamara. the dyna-
miter. as secretary of the ironworkers'
union. was identified by four witnesses
today as having given information to
the government against his forty.four
fellow defendants.
Walter Drew, of counsel for the Ma
tional Erectors' association, testified
that Hockin had said:
Il know they've got me, but don't
want to be the only one"
The witness said that during the ses-
sions of last winter of the federal
grand jury which returned the indict-
ments: Hockin offered to give informa-
TOE. but was turned away with the
remark: Go to the district attorney
and make a clean breast of it. He
is the only person with authority to
make promises"
"Hockin came to me several times
ane. told me my life was in danger"
said Mr.. Drew. HE told me fellows
on the Pacific coast, naming Olaf
Tveitmoe and Ed. Mockels. were after
me. ana that had better look out for
a fellow named John Stevens of Chi.
cago: He said he would warn me las-
er when l might expect danger.
Another time he came to my room
at Il club and in the presence of j. F..
Foster. detective. arranged TO let rs
Rave the key of the iron workers Of
iice SO we might put in a telephone de-
vics by which we would be able at al
!imes to record what President Frank
NJ kyan and others said about the
GSnmiting. At first Hockia said. "you
Know I've got too much brains TO get
mixed up with McNarama.' But when
/! replied. No you havn't any brains.
but only low cunning. and we've got
the goods on YOU he weakened"
MIR. Drew related that a strike had
been declared by the iron workers
union in 1905 and explosions on work
of members Of the erectors' associa-
tion began soon after that time.
Senator J. w. Kern, for the defense.
asked: Isn't one Of the members
OF the erectorS' association a subsidi-
ary Of the United States Steel corpora
Il believe 1t is" said MIR. Drew.
Hockin is the man who Ortie f.. Nc
Manigal said put him in the dynamite
ing business and who engineered many
Of the jobs blown up ny Mechanical
and James b. Mcnamara He is also
accused by the government of having
double crossed" the union officials.
Thomas F. Markey. photographer.
testified he saw Hockin visit the
grand jury room with bundles of pa
pers and later saw him in the iron
workers office when detectives visited
to secure photographs of letters. The
witness said Hockin on one occasion
had said. 1--WE got to get away from
here before any one sees me-"
Charles Schmidt. deputy United
States marshal. also said Hockin had
visited the federal building with pa
pers.
Guy Caldwell. an elevator boy, iden-
titled Hockin as having visited Drew's
room.
When attorneys objected to a
request that Hockin stand up. Judge
A. Il. Anderson said:
Stand up. Hockin. It's absurd to
ask a jury to try a case without know
ing whether the defendant is pres :
ent."
Hockin then stood up.
G. l.. Washburn. Chicago, testified
abon, installing the telephone device +,
in the iron workers headquarters. He
said it was done before daylight ,a.r
himself and the det ,utiyc
walk,ns through the office building |
bartlccted so as not to make nose
Flr Sid the door was uni. cked by De- I
tcctive Foster. i