New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-07-10

not remember reading the return before
he swore TO II.
well. are you willing to take an oath
TO something that you know is not true
,ust because you are In a hurry?" asked
Mr.. Jerome.
mo. am not" DR. Russell replied heat
eddy.
The witness said at this point that ne
had seen nothing abnormal in Thaw since
he had had him under observation, bu'
that from a study Of the history OF the
case he considered Thaw was SUFFERING
from constitutional inferiorty, and that ne
did not feel that he could express an opin'
ion as to whether Thaw would be danger
Gus II released.
Jerome Scores a Point.
Dr.. Russell surprised Mr.. Jerome by
volunteering the information that during
conversation he had had with jerome
one day since the hearing began jerome
had told him that he Uerome) wanted &c
prove Thaw had constitutional inferloriIS
so that he could get Thaw out on Dali
Mr. Jerome declared that such state
ment would have been absurd. because uh-
der the law no such thing could be done
Some further remarks volunteered by Dr
Russell appeared so absurd TO Mr.. Jerome
that he asked the witness II he had been
drinking. The witness said he never drank
TO excess any more than Mr.. Jerome did
DR.. Russell said he had told jerome tha'
he thought he could take Thaw and keep
him clear Of trouble. Judge keogh TOOK
hand in the examination at this point. DR..
Russelrs opinion that Thaw might COM
NIT another murder II he were released was
hrought ont during the following ques'
lions by the court and answers by the
witness:
O What did you mean by saying II you
took him you could keep him from Marin
4. | believe with the influence that nave
gained over Mr.. Thaw that could II ! was
employed by the family to take care OF MN MIN
| could take MIN out and keep him from
ever going wrong again .,. =.
O. AS special attendant? y. Yes SIT "s
special attendant ,,,,.
A. / don't think so. II would be better,
Q. 1t would be better? A Yes. -,
. why? A. why. II would obviate inc
possibility Of anything going wrong.
O. Why do you say the possibility OF any,
thing going wrong? a. Why. in a case o,
constitutional nferiOrlty that Is, ii ne sol
10 drinking again. II he should go back tt
and a similar line Of circumstances shouio
arise IL is possible that notwithstanding
his experience he might 60 wrong: put
think he would be much more unlikely U
go wrong than he would be without this eH
perienCe.
O. by going wrong wha: do you mean
A. ! mean getting into further trouble.
@. BY doing what a. Doing something
| against the law.
O. Such as what? A | don't know wha
| the act might be.
| q. What had YOU in your mind? A. why
| commit another murder
| Mr. Jerome put DIT Meyer the first ThaU
alenist to testify. through a hard cross
! examination The witness was inclined tC
| say that he had taken up the Thaw case
| from altruistic motives. Mr.. Jerome want
ed TO know If the doctor was not influenced
TO take a friendly interest in the case be
cause he owed his present position al Johns
Hopkins University to the influence Of the
Phipps family. OF Pittsburgh, who were
close friends of the Thaws. The witness
said that Mr.. Phipps had helped him ir
that direction. The alienist denied tina,
| there was anything Incompatible with his
opinion of Thaw's mental condition In the
evidence in the case -sI
so you don't think Thaw was ever IN
sane, not even for half a minute?' asked
Mr. jerome.
NO" replied Dr. Meyer.
And you believe that Thaw was com
mon murderer. and not insane. when hc
killed White?" asked Mr.. jerome.
Il do" was the reply