New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-05-15

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the Titanic. as, he said. # would DE I'm
possible TO mistake her
Allen Edwards. who is a member OF
the House OF Commons and barris'er
as representative Of the lockers union
examined Captain Lord in regaru 10
wireless message received from the
Titanic telling the Californian to smut
M" and asked him whether he and his
officers were not offended by that mes
cage.
witness replied that they did not dis
cuss IT.
Captain Lord denied he had told the
United States Senatorial commission
that he had ordered the operator at
o'clock to call the Titanic. II the opera
tor lad been called he would have hearo
the Titanic's messages. In reply TO Lord
Mersey witness said there was no refcr-
erce in the log to a mysterious snip
Lord Mersey requested Captain Loro
~ Give the address where he could be
! found until the Californian salied again.
Second Californian Witness.
Gibson. an apprentice on the can
/ fornian. who was on the bridge Oh 'il"'
vessel during the night OF the disaster
| told of seeing the lights and rockets OF
vessel and OF trying to signal her u!
means Of Morse signals, and having i'-
| norted the matter TO the captain lie
said he could not see the outlines or the
steamer. which was lying near by, but
only the glare Of her lights.
| Lord Mersey: Would not the glare OF
her lights indicate that the vessel was
passenger steamer"
! The witness did not reply TO the ques-
| ton. but said that while watching the
steamer. which was firing rockets. the
second officer remarked that the steamer
was not firing rockets at sea Tor hoth-
| ing, and that she appeared to be very
quecr out of the water and seemed 10
| have a heavy list 60 starboard.
Asked what he meant by his statment
that the vessel appeared TO be very
queer out Of the water" witness re-
piled that the vessels red light seemed
TO be higher out Of tho water than when
she was first seen.
Lord Mersey: THAT would show that
she had lis, to starboard.'
Gibson continued that tho aft lights
also seemed higher, but there was moth
ing about the vessel resembling a pas
senger steamer He did not think the
vessel was exactly in distress, but was
in trouble of some sort. He thought she
was q tramp steamer.
Lord Mersey: Would you expect to
zee the glare Of the light Of tramp
steamer"
Witness: YES"
Gibson told Of his reporting the firing
OF rockets to Captain Lord. a report
which the captain had previously testi-
fed that he did not remember receiving.
Gibson said that the captain was awake.
Witness further testified that at $40
o'clock, long after the Titanic had sunk,
he saw another rocket
! Saw Lights Five Miles Away.
| Herbert Stone. second officer of the
Californian. who next took the stand.
said that when he took the watch he
could see the masthead and red lights
and few indistinct lights OF a steamer
about five miles away. Later the vessel
fired eight white rockets.
| Q-Were they distress signals? A.-They
might have been anything. The steamer
might have been communicating with some
other vessel giving a warning Of icebergs or
| trying to reply TO the Californian's Morse
signals.
| Odd IL occur TO YOU that they were
distress sgnals7 A.-After l heard that the
Titanic had gone down # occurred to me
! that they might have been distress signals.
/ but still 1 did not believe that they came
! from that vessel. but from a smaller vessel
/ which was near.
Lord Mersey: What did you think
rockets were being sent up for?"
Stone thought that ship was in trou-
| BILE, but that she steamed away. He told
the captain. The rockets might have
come from a steamer further away than
the one they saw, although as the bear
ing of the rockets altered at the Same
time as the steamer steamed away It
was evident they came from her. The
steamer Just faded away. She did not
go out of sight as if she were sinking.
| When ne remarked that the vessel
looked queer" he referred to the lights
which were changing.
| Lord Mersey: You want us 10 under
stand that Notwithstanding the rockets
neither you nor Gibson thought there
was anything the matter with the ship"
Answer: NO"
Later in the morning the witness said
that he saw another steamer. and the
first officer remarked There's thai
steamer She's all right"
Gibson said he had replied that it was
not the same steamer.
Counsel for the Board Of Trade: why
should the first officer have said that?
Did you say anything to him to suggest
that the steamer had SUNK
Answer: NO"
! Witness was further questioned in re-
gard to the rockets.
Lord MerseyaDid not the very thing
happen that you had been taught indi-
! Gated distress?
| Ayes.
Lord Mersey-we need not press the
matter further.
Counsel for the White Star Line asked
that the cross-examination OF Hendrick-
son. who had mentioned Sir Cosmo Duff
Gordon in his evidence be postponed UNI
til the Duff-Gordons could attend and
have an opportunity TO make a state
ment
There was considerable increase Of in
terest in the inquiry on the part of the
public to-day. This was due to the be-
lief that !. Bruce Ismay. the general
manager Of the White Star Line. would