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Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
Sewanee Team
Comes Fourth.

Sewance's friends Will fail to under
stand why they are not as good as
Georgia since they tied the Athenians.
Well well, of course, the Mountainee"s
are as good if we consider that one
game alone. And it is true they held
Vanderbilt to u closer score than did
Georgia But they didn't do so well
with Chattanooga as did Georgia, nor
with Tech, nor with Alabama. In fact.
their tie game with the latter totals
them a loss of one whole game and two
half games on the season, which is
worse than the record made by either
Auburn or Georgia And then we must
not forget that they won from Tech
only on the veriest fluke of tho entire
season.
No, | am firmly of opinion that both
Georgia and Auburn were potentially
decidedly stronger than Sewanee, and
even doubt whether the Tigers could
have won again from the Yellow Jack
cts had they met in "A second game.
Sewauee and Auburn did not meet but
against the teams they played IN com
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
English Has One Tough Job on His Hands Tonight
Whitney Almost Sure to Stick 0ut Ten Rounds

bluff, he really thinks he can halt Whit
ney. The job may sound big. says
Clarence, but here's the way l figure
it out | know Whitney can't hit hard
enuogh to hurt me and so instead Of
boxing him as have other fellows here
am going to tear in at the sound Of
the first bell and keep tearing until /
cop him. | don't believe ne can stand
my PUSHES off for ten rounds, and when
hit him he is going to go
Il don't believe English can hit me
with a handful of shot" says Whitney.
His style was just made for me- espe-
cially over a short route"
However the bout goes, though, it
ought to prove a fast, interesting af-
fair and it's a cinch it will be no lay
down affair Both men think too much
of their Atlanta regulations to do d
Brodie, even were they inclined to such
practices.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

to make the weight. Eight pounds is
not a whole lot of difference when it is
considered that in height the boxers are
just about the same size and neither
has anything on the other in reach.
The contract reads that if Whitney IS
on his feet at the end of the tenth
round he wins the bout. regardless of
points And the job looks a trihe too
much for the Omaha scrapper.
In the first place, English is distinct
ly a one handed fighter His right is
dangerous but his left has never made
anybody go to sleep. Now, Whitney is
a corSing good defensive man and it is
hard to see how he will let his opponent
slip over d sleep punch when he knows
that he has got but one hand to watch.
There is hardly a remote possibility
that the Carpenter can stop English
Whitney's only fault In his Atlanta
bouts seemed to be that despite the fact
that he could land often, the punches
never seemed to carry enough to trcu-
BILE the man in front of him. And in
English he meets a tough, hardened old
scrapper. who knows how to protect
himself
English Well Laid In.
Unless English is putting up a big
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
BY Fuzzy Woodruff.

TIE Clarence English is able to halt
Frank Whitney in ten rounds to-
night as he has agreed to do. il
win be as big a reversal of form as II
Charley Brickley would miss a goal In a
pinch or if Theodore Roosevelt's name
was crowded off the first page for six
months hand running.
Personally l would not be bit sur
prised to see Whitney earn a decision
without any handicap provision. The
matter of poundage. which caused the
Dixie club matchmaker to provide the
handicap shouldn't count many whoops
in short ten-round engagement. and
there is no question about the fact that
at boxing the Fighting Carpenter has
it on the veteran welterweight. unless
he has gone back horribly since his
last Atlanta bout, or unless English
shows far more stuff than he did when
he met Motto here couple of weeks
ago.
Eight Pounds Difference.
Under ,he agreement Whitney will
enter the ring at 1874 pounds. English
has promised to make 142 for him.
There will be no trouble for either man
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
Alabama Is
Given Sixth.

From the foregoing it will not be
difficult to observe that Alabama has d
nose ahead of the remainder of the
field. She would have the right. think
to claim this from her games with the
Mississippis and Tulane alone-remem-
bering how these latter came out in
their games with each other. But
when we recall Alabamas tie game
with Sewanee and her splendid show
ing against Georgia there remains no
doubt whatever. Tech was really the
only team that was able to put it over
the Tuscaloosans in large gobs.
They had a rather close shave of it on
Thanksgiving day, but with the hard
fights they had been having all season
they were about all in. and are to be
congratulated on having won the game
at all
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
FULTON BASKETBALLERS
ANNOUNCE SCHEDUL E

Following is the schedule adopted
by the Eight Club Fulton Basket Bal
league:
At Armory Court.
December 5-Company c VS.. Compa
ny II, Agosgas VS.. Post Athletics
December 12-Company G VS.. Bara
cas-, Company H VS.. Agogas.
December 19-Company c VS.. S. v
D., Company Fl VS.. Barracks.
December 26-Post Athletics VS.. S. V.
d.. Company II VS.. G. A. c.
January accompany V VS.. Agogas
Company H VS.. 5. V. d.
January 9-Company G VS.. Post Ath-
letics Agogas VS.. G. A. c..
January 11-Company c vs.. G. A. c..
Company H VS.. Post Athletics.
January 13-Company c vs.. Compa-
ny H, Agogas VS.. Post Athletics.
January accompany c VS.. BaraCas
Company H vs. Agogas
January 2S-Company VS.. S. V. D..
Company H VS.. Barracks.
January accompany G VS.. Y. NJ. c.
A., Company Fl VS.. G. a. c.
January accompany c VS.. Agogas
Company H vs.. S. V. d.
February Company c VS.. Post
Athletics, Company H VS.. Y. Nj. c. A.
February 6-Company c VS.. C. A. c.
Company II vs.. Post Athletics.
At Y. M. c. A. Court.
December 4-Y. NJ. c. A. VS.. S. V. d.
G. A. c. VS.. Barracks.
December 11-Y. NJ. C. A. VS.. Post
Athletics. S V. d. VS.. G. A. c.
December 1S-Y. NJ. c. A. vs.. Agogas
Post Athletics VS.. S. V. d.
December 25-Y. NJ. c. A. VS.. Com
pany c, Agogas VS.. Barracks.
January 1-Y. NJ. c. A. VS.. G. A. c.
Post Athletics vs. Barracks.
January 6-Y. NJ. c. A VS.. Company
H, S. V. d. VS.. Barracks
January 2-Agogas VS.. S. V. D.. Y. NJ
c. A VS.. Baracas.
January 13nY. N. c. A. VS.. S. V. D.
C. A. c. VS.. Barracks.
January 15-Y. NJ. C. A. VS.. Post
Athletics. S V. d. VS.. G. A. c.
January 20-Y. NJ. c. A. VS.. Agogas
Post Athletics VS.. G. A. c.
January 22-Post Athletics VS.. S. v
D., Agogas VS.. Barracks
January 27-Y. M. G. vs.. G, A. c.,
Post Athletics VS.. Barracks.
January 29-Agogas vs.. G. A. c., s
v d. VS.. Barracks
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

GERS record is that it shows little or
nothing accomplished except in this
same game with Tennessee. She was
defeated by Clemson, which makes her
lose out here; and when you compare
her record with that of Florida we find
that she did not make as good a show
ing against either Auburn or Tech as
did the Floridans, while she was also
unable to get better than tie with
the latter when they met; so that puts
Florida ahead of her also; especially
as Florida won from the strong South
Carolina team.
But when we come to deciding he
tween Florida and Clemson for eleventh
place we are up against something else
again. Auburn and Tech both made
slightly better scores against Clemson
than they did against Florida. while
Florida defeated South Carolina, which
was more than Clemson could do, for
they were handily defeated by the
South Carolina team. To offset this,
Clemson can point out thta she defeat
ed Mercer, while the best Florida could
do was tie up their game with Mercer
However. Clemson can point with pride
to her great victories over Citadel and
Howard and her fine game against
Georgia.
| will split eleventh place between
Florida and Clemson. This lets Mer-
Ger in for thirteenth place. with Ten
nessee fourteenth. Citadel fifteenth,
Howard sixteenth, Mississippi college
seventeenth and College of Charleston
eighteenth.
Those teams in the association not
considered are the three Kentucky col
leges and the Texas A. * NJ. These
four played scarcely any games at all
with the rest of the S !. A. A. teams,
and are omitted from consideration on
the ground of remoteness. Texas un-
doubtedly had, as usual. very fine
team: but they are also in a league of
nine Texas colleges and have their in
terests more closely conferred on their
accomplishments in that league than in
the s. L. A. A.
South Carolina and the other two
Florida teams are not in the s. !. A. A.,
so we have not considered them at all
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
TIGERS IN SEARCH OF
GOOD MOUND ARTISTS

DETROIT MICH, Dec. 3.-President
Navin, Of the Tigers. will attend the
annual meeting of the American league
prepared to trade a good share of his
kingdom for a pitcher.
Detroit being i'm the second division
last year. almost the entire grist OF
young pitchers tished in by the scouts
were tried out. SO the customary hope
that a real wonder will be uncovered in
the South in the spring is lacking. Just
one of the bushers showed promise of
the convincing kind, Wheatley. The
others had few good innings. Be
sides Wheatley, Detroit has Dubuc and
that is all.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

measure them. but by what they do do.
Now, what does the record show? 1t
shows that Vanderbilt won all her
games but one, and that one was tie /;
her percentage was 1000, for tie games
don't count in any sport. The record
also shows that Georgia won all her
games but one while she tied another.
Auburns record also discloses one tie
and one lost game, but as we throw
out ties it leaves the slate standing for
both Auburn and Georgia all wins but
one.
BY this method of reckoning, Wander
bilt is first, while Georgia and Auburn
are tied for second place.
No one will question Vanderbilt 5
right to claim first place. For, say
what you will about the mere record,
the public generally will take somewhat
into account in their own minds the
scores of other games, and what things
generally a team has achieved through
out a seasons play. For instance, how
could we fail to forgive Vanderbilt
their one off-color day, recalling as we
do her crushing defeats of all other
Southern teams and her grand battle
against the very best team in the whole
country? In other words, we just must
heed to some extent our own opinions
as to a teams inherent strength, and
how we think that strength will COM
pare with another teams nine days out
of ten, particularly when they do not
all play the same teams, and under
like conditions, as in a baseball league.
This kindly and favorable opinion, I
say, will estop most every one from
voicing any protest whatever against
awarding the palm to the Commodores,
no matter what they may think might
be shown by mere figures. And so there
will be no argument about Vanderbilt.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

Baseball wisdom by Mike Donlin: Il
know lot of players with high averages
wouldn't have on a baseball team OF
mine" Not that Mike has a team, but
it's the truth, anyhow.
Ralph Works and Larry Mclean have
picked out title for their vaudeville
sketch. 1t is Thirteen Feet of Baseball
or, Who Opened the Giraffe Cage?'
Connie Mack will increase the price of
seats at his park next season. What
does he care if they Do revise the tar
if downward?
Bobby Byrne will not be allowed to play
soccer this winter. Barney Dreyfuss fig
ures he gets enough exercise in summer
The genius. of Charley Ebbetts is worth
an occasional marvel Note that Charles
game between the Brooklyn and Newark
teams. Thus he gets the receipts going
and coming-for he owns both clubs,
Garry Hermann is properly sore that
Charley Murphy crossed him on the Tin
ker deal, and he win take big part in
his part in the "Fogel incident" This
will come UP at the National league meet
ing.
Columbus team-f they'd let him.
'Steiney" is finding managing lot tough
er than playing.
Larry Mclean may wind up with the
Cardinals next season. Anyhow. Cincin-
natl is through with him He ought TO
go to some distillery town, for reasons
well known to us all.
Frank Schultz is taking no chances with
his condition and is wintering at West
Baden.
II is rala tod +bat onca ,lnor a t;,,,a a
historical fan in the back part of the
high brow section of the Boston American
stands was tearing the air with repeated
shouts of Strike i'm out! Strike i'm out!
Strike i'm out,' until the reiteration be-
came unbearable to those Immediately
around him. Finally some one, unable to
gently on the shoulder, and said 81
don't think they can hear you"
Tom Lynch wants to know if he can
kick in on Andrew Carnegie's ex-president
graft
Some humorist has ii that the Phillies
got all the breaks last season, including
Titus ankle, Knabe's hand, Dooins legs
and Mangus' pledge.
What's become Of Sam Lever? No,
he's not dead He. won seven and lost
year was Sans sixteenth season. In his
career he has pitched 348 games. He has
won 2S0 and tied 10
Fred Clarke is going over from Kan
s@S City to New York for the National
league meeting. Since he despises New
York and doesn't care a hang who is
elected president, it may be inferred that
there is deal in the air.
Hans Wagner says that by gum he's
going to play one more year anyhow, if
for nothing but to win back that batting
leadership
TopSy Hartsel has moved to Toledo and
says he intends to remain there, even il
they fire him as manager. He will not,
though. They never do.
Among the candidates for the job of
manager of the Keokuk team are Joey
Bills, once a Memphis player, and George
Manush, once a resident of the Bluff City.
Joe Dunn. who goes from Mobile to
Providence, is rated by Bill Smith as the
headest catcher in the Southern league
last year.
Dahlen believes that Hot Springs is a
iinx town. and that his team will profit
by switching from there to Columbus, Ga,
for spring training.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
Auburn and
Georgia Tied.

But now comes the big hullabaloo.
Georgians will wonder how I can d.
vide their second layer of the cake in
two and give one part Of it to Auburn,
when they defeated that Auburn team.
Can it be, though, that they have al
ready forgotten how badly they were
overwhelmed by Vanderbilt, when the
latter could not even win by a single
point from Auburn? And look at their
failure to win from Sewanee! If Geor-
gia wishes to reckon percentages by
the inclusion of half games, she will
fare no better than tie for second with
Auburn, for she will have to count a
loss of 11-2 games Vanderbilt and
Sewanee) against l IL for Auburn
Georgia and Vanderbilt).
In the East there are many, many
good football teams that do not meet
each other, and on this account a real
ranking, based absolutely on the per-
centage of games won and lost, as in a
league, is quite impossible. Yet the
writers do attempt rankings, and these
they base on their personal opinions for
lack of better data to guide them. To a
lesser degree we have here to resort to
the same crude methods, since the
teams in the S. |. A. A. do not play the
same teams, which makes all the diff
ference in the world
And when | look over the work Of the
two teams for the season as a whole,
and think of the caliber of the opposing
teams they both faced, | find myself
squarely of the opinion that Auburn
would have won from Georgia three
days out of every four, or oftener.
Georgia people know and admit that
they caught Auburn off edge. Still,
this is a part of the game, even if not a
major part, and their splendid achieve
ment is not TO be entirely set aside.
Auburn made a sad mistake in taking
on Vanderbilt the Saturday before
Thanksgiving, and it was equally a
doleful undertaking for Vanderbilt.
Neither of them will make that mis-
take again.
l have no mental reservations what
soever when l declare that, taking into
account not only the one game the two
teams played against each other and
the circumstances and conditions under
which it was played, but also their rec
ords for the entire season. they are en-
| titled to no better and no worse than
an absolute tie for second place.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

With but few exceptions the remain
ing teams did not play each other, and
all the guess one can make between
them must arise from the showing they
made against superior teams. Thus as
between the Mississippis, L. S. o., Mer-
Ger, Tulane, Tennessee and Florida.
Clemson met none of them but Mercer.
The latter played none but Clemson
and Tennessee, which last played none
but Mercer and Alabama. The two
Mississippis did not meet each other
at all Tulane played only Mississippi
A. & M, and so on.
or the lot it looks to me as though
Mississippi A. & NJ had a shade the
better of the records as a whole, but
as she was beaten by Tulane we will
have to hold her back with the rest of
the clan. On the other hand, l can not
see my way clear to give Tulane a quit
claim deed to seventh place ahead of
the rest, because she was defeated by
l.. S. L. decisively on Thanksgiving
day. But L. S. L. had already been
beaten by narrow margins by both the
Mississippis. SO there remains moth
ing to do but call it a draw between the
four for seventh place.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

Does Tech rank above the remainder
of the field? It's very hard, indeed. to
say with confidence whether she is en-
Titled to fifth place. But l believe she is
As matter of fact the proper deter
mination of places for all the rest is a
harder problem than what has gone be-
fore. This is so largely for the reason
that the remaining teams have not
played such schedules as would enable
anybody to accurately determine much
Of anything. Thus Tech has not played
Iulane, Tennessee, L. S. L. or either of
the Mississippis.
Auburn has not played Tulane. Ten
nessee, Mississippi. Alabama nor Sc
vance. Georgia has not played Tulane,
the Mississippis, Tenne ssee. Mercer nor
| l.. S. L. And Sewanee has not PLAYED
Tulane, the Mississippis. Mercer nor
Auburn And so it goes.
Now, with these incomplete schedules
1t is quite impossible to get a good line
on the relative merits of all the teams
in the S. l. A. A. About all we have to
go by is the fact that Alabama. whom
we know over in this section, defeated
Mississippi by a close score. and was
defeated by Mississippi A. & NJ by a
close score The two Mississippis did
not play against each other either this
year, so this leaves us high and dry
again. But Alabama defeated Tulane.
and Tulane defeated Mississippi A &,
NJ while the latter defeated Alabama
all three being close scores AS Ala
bama also defeated the University of
Mississippi, which latter defeated L. s.
u, 1t looks like plain sailing to rank
Alabama at least on a par with the
other colleges over in that section.
And yet we all recall what Tech did
to Alabama-much the worst score that
has been put up against the Tusca-
loosans
And no one any longer thinks that it
was coming to an early height that en-
able Tech to do this, for she played
equally we'll in all her subsequent
games; and even on the last day of the
season defeated the strong Clemson
team by as great a margin as either
Auburn or Georgia had been able TO
turn the trick.
The luck of things has been against
Tech in nearly all her games this year,
but those who saw them play most of
their matches will, l am sure, encounter
no difficulty in assigning her to no
worse position than fifth
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
What Teams Do
Is What Counts,

srsr,'s, is not faultfnding; it is mere
kr 1o,a ''@ and logic. At Vanderbilt thew
any nv" I" and at Auburn, too. without
gia wise words from me. And at Geor-
s 81. they know it also. TAKE tho soa
vsn5ar %o.N and record through and
bur, '. oIt mas a better team than Au-
wa,. ' "l',e the latter has, in the same
as wa. deter team than Georgia. But.
teams sa'o before, it is not by what
's can or ought to do tbot r.o
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03

1t is the duty Of every Allan
tan to vote in tomorrow's city
election.
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
Florida and
Clemson Tied.

Tennessee played pretty good ball
and won from quite number of teams,
but, after ALL nobody of consequence.
She lost rather badly to Sewanee and
Unexpectedly to Mercer; so Mercer
outranLs her. The trouble with Mer-
Atlanta Georgian. [volume] (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, 1912-12-03
Old O. Confidence
Plays Big Part.

AIental condition may not merely IN
cr,de such states of mind as keen
moss of desire to win or comparative
Indifference over the outcome, but
orar-contidence and under confidence
nc we'll The last of these is heard lit
tie Of. but often plays its part in games
Of football. If a team goes on field
feeling that it is going to be mauled
all over the greensward. that very thing
is most apt to happen 1t is not well
to have ones team too badly scared.
But good old reliable o. Confidence
is the hale fellow" to bump into often
est in a survey Of who's who in a foot
ball season. He gives you the hearty
slap on the back tells you how well
you are looking and feeling. shakes
your hand vigorously with one hand,
while in the other behind him he holds
his lerchief, saturated with a narcotic
more deadly than chloroforn. Yes,
he's the boy that puts football teams to
sleep, all right.
Well, that chap and Mr.. Keen-To-
Win are some rivals, and it all depends
on which team they get hold of how
the game is coming out in a majority
Of cases. Sometimes the one gets hold
OF both teams, as when Georgia and
Tech come together. Then young K. T.
W. is the only one to get a pleasant
word from both camps-and a battle
royal always results.
But the old mesmerizer, o. c., got a
strangle hold on a couple Of the teams
for a short spasm each this fall, and
what he did to the dope is a story pain
full to dwell upon.