The Washington times., 1912-10-04

~ do not remember any conversation
with Mr.. sibley In which Mr.. Archboid's
b ber his % coming on two or three occs-
sions about the Standard Oil Company:
and It Is perfectly. possible that he did
bring up Archbold's name. certainly
no, SSlSStssp sev% to ask him to STng nng
statement made TO Mr.. sibley was
made in answer to Mr.. gibley's request
that should see any. OF the men that
he named. and to all such requests.
else, I always answered that I would
gladly see anyone whom they chose to
bring down who had anything serious to
SpeA p%At that n Whn time M Mr.. sibley was in Con-
zress. and to every Senator and every
Congressman / always gave an immedi-
ate hearing, and ! always saw every
man brought to see me by any Senator
Now, ! do not remember Mr.. Sib-
| ley ever speaking to me about Mr.. Arch
bold, and, as a matter OF fact, ! rather
doubt II he did speak to me about him.
But Senator Bourne ! DO remember ask
Mr.. Archbold with Senator Bourne on
two or three occasions. and on one oc-
casion at my house In Oyster Bay.
Archboldsat Lunch.
Senator Bourne brought Mr.. Archbold
to lunch, SO that II Mr.. Sibley had
made such a request should doubtless
have answered II In exactly the way he
| describes.
II wish now to put this as explicitly
| as / know how: While was President,
| II any man, trust magnate. labor lead
| er, socialist, prize fighter. lawyer.
clergyman. had any business with me
him, and II thought there was any
| thing to be gained from the standpoint
| OF the public service In seeing any man.
then, without waiting for him to ask,
III TT am am elected President a year
hence. II Mr.. Rockefeller or anyone else
| ants to see me I'll see him, and, more
than that, IL I have anything to ask In
Mr.. Rockefeller or Mr.. Gompers or Mr.
| Mitchell or Mr.. ]. Pierpont Morgan or
anyone else. will send for him myself
| and ask him about It,"
Sent for Magnates.
During my term OF service as
President. It happened that I did not
send for any representative Of the
Standard OIL Company on my own
Initiative: 1t was always on the re-
quest of somebody that should see
them. But there were plenty of trust
magnates for whom did send. l say
trust nagnates--l mean railroad
kings or men of that stamp. ] sent, /
| remember perfectly well, for Mr.. Mar
vim Hughitt on three or four occa-
! sions. / sent for and invited to the
house Mr.. James Hill at the time OF a
| conservation congress when i had the
governors dine at the house. and jim
and delivered an address on eonserya-
ton In the East Room OF the White
! II think I sent for Mr.; Pierpont
neetFion MSlFa wts Currency say h isEsson zion
which VIC were trying to get >Sroup h
at some period of my career. I do
not remember the exact date. but ]
.Ss ,sn%Ss %o%sn, 1907 some s% Of the
newspapers that are carrying comments
on the supposed fact that I sent for
Mr.. Archbold are also commenting on
the fact that I am supposed to have
sent for a Socialist-Mr. Bruyere. to
help me draw up my platform.
Talked to Socialists.
| "As regards to Socialists, they are
right. Mr.. Bruyere was one Of q group
Of eight or ten men engaged In philan-
tropic work or uplift work in New York
who has written on the subject. and has
studied It, and sent for him, he warn
ing me In advance that he was sup.
porting Mr.. Debs. I told him ! knew
that. saw him and consulted with
him. I saw him at the same time
saw MIR. Raymond Robbins and Mr.
Homer Folks, and certain other gentle.
men. and ! consulted with them abou,
certain legislation which I was inter.
ested in advocating.
II had seen Mr.. Bruyere when wai
President. ! have seen number OF
Socialists while I was President, anc
summoned the INTO see me.
II have always acted. and always
shall act, upon the theory that n, Will,
In public office, there Is any man from
whom I think ! can gain anything OF
value to the Government, I win send fol
him and talk Il over with him. no mat.
ter how widely I differ with him or
other points.
President. trust magnates. labor leaders
Socialists. John l.. Sullivan. Battling
Nelson. DR.. Lyman Abbott. could
go on Indefinitely with the list Of peo.
pie whom at various times I have seer
dent again shall continue exactly tn.
same course of conduct, without the
deviation Of hairs breadth. And II
ever ! find that my virtue is SO frai
that II won't stand being brought II
contact with either a trust magnate OF
a Socialist or labor leader. / will gel
out Of public life
Here Senator Paynter observed: "Mr
President, one Of YOUR statements rath
| CT HhN, IL yOu Will puTuOn Tnt
for interrupting you. You say you sem
for John L. Sullivan. did not know
that you wanted anything to DO with
a has-been prize-fighter?"
He Praises Sullivan.
John L. Sullivan Is a big fellow
and a good fellow" replied Colone
Roosevelt, ''and man who has don,
yaliantly. I do not expect him to las
forever"
"I do not think sent for Mr.. sulli
van or for Battling Nelson, but each O
: them called upon me more than once.
, saw both OF them. and was glad to se
them. There were some questions O
, public policy that they wanted to Sc
. me about. daughter.) There may hav,
, been little personality mixed up witt
/ 1t, too. Iaughter) But, In Mr.. Sulli
5 vans case. for instance, remembe
Y that he had a nephew in the Marin
: Corps, and that is why he wanted t
= see me.
l Now. about the Hartman business.
feel very strongly that there ought no
9 to be need for any intelligent man [,
ask one additional question after read
ing the letters written by me at tina
time to Mr.. Hartman.
Likes practical" Men.
II call attention. especially, to tn
letter OF October II. 1904, which contain
; the phrase practical men, which ha