The copper era and Morenci leader., 1912-04-26
BIG LINER TEN MILES
 AWAY AS TITANIC SANK
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 ly good idea" if they could catch the vessel. It would result in keeping the men together, and let every one get home.
 Catching the Cedric.
 MT. Ismay, when the weather thickened, remarked to me- said Lightoller, that it was hardly possi- ble we could catch the boat. He asked me if I thought it desirable that he send a wireless to hold the Cedric and I said most certainly The telegram was sent" Lightoller said that when the tel,s- gram came from New York saying the Cedric would not be held, he urg- ed MT. Ismay to insist upon the Ced- ric being held.
 q was told on the Carpathia that Chief Officer Wild, who was working at the forward collapsible boat told MT. Ismay there was no more women to go. Ismay still stood back and Wild, who was big powerful man, bundled him into the collapsible boat"
 Who told you this powerful off cer, MT. Wild, ordered MT. Ismay in- to the boat?"
 T don't know"
 Telegram Regarding Cedric.
 Senator Smith said that in .previ- ous testimony the witness had declar- ed he had not spoken to MT. ISmav. This Lightoller denied.
 Senator Smith asked Lightoller why, when he testified in New York, he did not tell about the sending of the telegram from the Carpathia ur.s- ing that the Cedric be held.
 'I did not say anything about it then because there had been nothing said about the telegram at that time,' said Lightoller.
 How do you know it was sent?"
 Because MT. Ismay showed it to me, said it was sent, and showed me the answer,' Lightoller replied.
 Other Telegrans Sent. Do you know whether any other telegramS were Sent?"
 Yes, after MT. Franklin's reply, | understood second was sent urging that the Cedric be held"
 Did you know then the senate was going to hold an investigation?
 Most certainly not or the tele- gram never would have been sen. Our sole idea was to keep witnesses together, for in case of such an in- vestigation as we knew would be made in England
 Senator Fletcher wanted to know had the Titanic been going slower if her danger would have been less. Lightoller said she would have been slower on her helm, and had more time in which to turn. He said the ship was travelling the usual west bound track.
 Do you know if all the passengers were aroused and told the ship was sinking?" continued the senator.
 Not that I can state accurately, but from my knowledge of the con dition at the time, I am sure that all were aroused
 Only Two Women.
 Lightoller said that s. Hemminss, who was waiting to testify before the committee walked the length of the ship just before she sank, and had seen only two women.
 How do you account for the 1600 people who could not be found. Where were they when the boats left?" -. That I cannot fathom; l did not go aft. .. Lightoller said that vessel of the Titanic's tonnage going at rate If 21 1-2 knots an hour, could be stop- | ped in a minute, or a distance of 1-4 | of a mile. MT. Smith asked if Ligh- toller had seen the lights of the mys- terious vessel ahead.
 T saw the light he answered, it was two points off the starboard bow"
 Did you know what the lights were?"-
 Mo-"
 Warned of Ice.
 Robert Kitchens, quartermaster Tn charge of the lifeboat which took fled that when the collision occurred