The Washington times., 1912-10-07


Roosevelt; but that latteriy his senti-
ments had undergone some change, and
he no longer felt very friendly.
Story Macveagh Told.
During the conversation Mr.. Mac
veagh said, as I now recoilect Il. that
one morning late In October. 1904. he
had been In Mr.. Morgan's office In New
York. AZ secretary entered and asked
Mr.. Morgan personally to answer a
telephone call from Mr.. Hartman. Mr..
phone. Returning presently. he seemed
displeased with what had transpired.
and demanded to know:
What do you suppose that man IN
whether the word maniac was used.
but at anyhow II was an expression In
nowise compiimentary-wapts now? It
seems that Mr.. Hartman has accepted
the Presidents invitation to dine with
more campaign money"
Mr.. Morgan Indicated the opinion
that there was no need of raising more
% .ns I. but W.n Ms H ,a 4n.o insist:
which he would give $4,000. and he
wanted $4,000 more from Mr.. Morgan.
Mr.. Macveagh said that he observed.
facetiously. that to give the money
probably wouldn't subject Mr.. Morgan's
gan admitted that but didn't like to
make contributions that were not
needed.
Morgan Gave Money.
"As I recollect II, after two years.
during which the conservation has not
been much in my mind. Mr.. Mscveash
added that Mr.. Morgan concluded that
he would give the money. and did write
his check for It and send 1t to Mr..
Hartman
On a brief cross examination the
witness said that he had no further
information about campaign fund
matters. He added that his .recoliec-
ton of the MacVeagh incident was
not fresh In his mind, and some de-
tails might be corrected by Mr.. Mac
Veagh and Mr.. Morgan, whose MEM
cries would doubtless be more vivid
than his own.
Other Important Testimony.
A mass Of important testimony was
laid before the committee by five Wit
nesses, Charles r. Crane, Lewis Ham
nerling. OF New York. and Col. John
j. Hannah. secretary to Senator La
Toilette; in addition to Mr.. welliver
and Mr. Russell.
Conspicuous In the testimony was the
statement Of Charles r. Crane. of Chi
caso. who was alleged by Elon H.
Hooker, treasurer Of the Progressive
party. to have given $4,000 each to the
Mr.. Crane got close attention through
out his testimony. He said he gave
326,ssl. 70 to La Follette's campaign.
lis that all you gave. directly or in
directlyT
Eyes. SIR"
u, -.Eow, !. much did you give to Governor
Ten thousand" said Crane. "in two
SfSsr %alsi on March Is and an
Cranes attention was then called to
Hooker's testimony that he, Crane. told
Hooker that he had given 370.0 900 each
to Senator La Toilette and Wilson's
II never had such a conversation, e."
said Crane. II talked with him, but
never told him gave any such sums :"
In connection with his testimony,
Crane made the following statement: =.
my contribution to the Wilson fund
emit that La Toilette probably could not
be nominated: I desired to see a Pro-
gressive nominated and elected Presi-
dent. I could very well support both
are ,Progressives. That I was contrib
uting to both the Wilson and La Fell
lette funds was known to the managers
Of the two candidates. ! made no Sc
Cret Oh the fact.
Long 4 Progressive.
IT have been In sympathy with the
Progressive movement for many years.
"A word on another matter. During
the primary campaign, particularly dur
ing the California campaign, I was
stated to be the head of the so-caiied
Bath Tub trust the inference being, Of
course, that was interested in politics
TO protect that organization. Let me
say that nor no member of my family
Of that organisation, do not own and
never have owned-nor has any member
OF my family 80 far as I know-any
stocks or bonds OF any Cf the sa-called
trusts"
month to La Toilette.
IT was willing to give much to each
candidate" said Crane. Hooker "ae
around to get money for his Progress
:ave vs ssn sn%s in He thought he might
Crane gave no money to the Bull
Moose fund.
Would you have been subjected to
this criticism by Colonel Roosevelt II
instead OF two?" asked Senator Pom
creme.
II might have been accused Of morop-
oily" answered Crane. laughing. What
ever interest i ndu was perbOndl-
not a buEiness-interest."
Crane was on the witness stand only
fifteen minutes.
La Toilette Statement.
Col. John ]. Hannah, secretary to
Senator La Toilette. submitted to the
committee a statement of La Toilette 8
pre-convention' receipts and expendi-
lures. Total receipts were s63,s65. and
expenses $63.961.
To the La Toilette fund, Clifford Pin
chot gave $4,000; Amos Pinchot, $4,000;
Representative Kent of California,
$40, CO., Charles r. Crane, of Chicago,
500, 003Alfred l.. Baker, 5000: William
Finn, $1,000; Il. A. Scripps. $3.50: Ru-
dolph Spreckels, 5000; and Mrs. Glen
dover Evans, s276. Medli Mccormick
loaned La Toilette $1,000 and Senator
Gronna $500. La Toilette spent $500
himself.
La ,Follette's expenses were sIo,s17 for
the Washington headquarters. $40, $50 for
the Chicago headquarters, 1851 for
telegraph and telephone, N.55S at the
Chicago convention, and 81, 200 for cam
paien expenses.
Colonel Hannah said Charles r. Crane
had given s3,lS4 additional to the Chi
cago headquarters Of La Toilette, maxi
ing Cranes total contribution to La
Folette's cause s96,6S4.
Colonel Hannah denied that Crane
gave La Toilette $4,000. as asserted by
Treasurer Hooker, of the Progressive
marty He aaid nthar rnnpav In thn