New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-10-09
RooseveIt's Ex-Manager De-
clares the President Was Not
Responsible for Con-
vention Conditions.
WHAT THE CAMPAIGN COST
Representative Mckinley Tells
Senate Committee Repub-
licans Collected $685.
000-Depew Relates
Plan to Gust Him.
IFrom The Tribune Bureau

trast with the indiscriminate charges
OF fraud made by Colonel Roosevelt and
Senator Dixon. his campaign manager
Ormsby McHarg, who conducted the
contests in behalf Of the third term
candidate before the Chicago conven-
ton, declared, in effect, before the Sem
ate Campaign Investigating Committee
to-day that President Taft was no
more responsible for the situation that
existed there than his predecessor was
in 1904.
"The charge is made against Mr..
Taft" said Mr.. McHarg, taking issue
with tho Roosevelt supporters among
whom he was numbered during tho
convention fight, that he is respon-
sible for this position In Chicago. he
is no moro responsible than any other
Republican ever nominated tor Presl-
dent in the last fifty years.
Mr.. McHarg, who took the view that
contests in the Southern States in the
Republican party were inevitable under
the present system, touched only
lightly on the merits of the cases ne
supervised before the Republican Ma
tional Committee He said that In the
state and district elections Ems" and
"outs" were constantly In conflict ana
that zone side was entitled to just as
much consideration as the other"
Representative Mckinley, who was
director Of the national Taft bureau
during the pre-convention campaign
gave a frank statement of the con-
tributions and expenses Of the bureau.
He collected S265,0O0 OF this amount
$4,000 was contributed by Charles P.
Taft, Henry w. Taft and Horace Taft,
brothers of the President. Other con-
tributors were John Hays Hammond,
SOB 900; Andrew Carnegie, S2oOOC;
Messrs. Kelsey and Patton, of New
York. friends of the President, SlO,-
900; Richard Kerens, of st. Louis, Am
bassador TO Austria Hungary, $4,000;
ex-senator Il. 3. Scott, $1,000; Senator
Crane, 5000; Secretary Knox, $500;
Attorney General Wickersham, $1,000;
A. C. James, $1,000, and Z. T. stotes-
Z bury, of Philadelphia. $4,000.
Various sums were sent by Mr.. Nc
, Kinley TO the states TO carry on the
Taft campaign. The rest was devoted
to the expenditures Of the bureaus at
Washington and Chicago.
The Taft campaign in the various
states, Mr.. Mckinley said, were carried
on independently of the national bu-
reau. and he was unable to account for
the contributions and expenditures by
the state committees.
MaeVeaeh corrects Story.
WAYNE MacVeagh, at his own re-
quest, was put on the stand during the
morning session Of the committee and
denied responsibility for the story that
he was in the Office OF ]. p. Morgan
when the latter received request by
telephone TO contribute to the so-called
Hartman fund Of $4,000. He said
II was II. Nick. Twombly and not Mr..
Morgan who received the request for
a contribution in his presence.
Ex-senator Chauncey NJ. Depew de-
MED that he had knowledge Of the plan
to eliminate him from the Senatorial
race in 1904 until some time after the
election. President Roosevelt told him
later, he said, that he never had any
intention of appointing him Ambas-
sador to France.
"Inasmuch as 1 was contributing llb-
erally to the state campaign" said Mr..
Depew, III the plan was to eliminate
me think II would have been pretty
serious joke on me-"
Some light was shed upon the birth
of the third term movement by Ormsby
McHarg, who travelled through the
South. according to his testimony, TO
sound the sentiment Of the people as
To the nomination Of Colonel Roosevelt.
This. he said, he had done at the re-
quest Of William l.. Ward. Later, when
the Roosevelt movement had become a
more established fact, a meeting was
held at the Manhattan Hotel, in New
York. he said, attended by Dan X.
Hanna, Walter Brown and several
others, who decided to cast loose from
the La Toilette campaign and let the
Wisconsin candidate, whom they had
supported UP to that time. make way
as best he could alone.
Mr.. McHarg said that he had advised
against this move as being an evidence
of treachery that would be charged up
70 Colonel Roosevelt, although the lat
ter was entirely innocent, and 1t would
be disastrous for the Roosevelt move
ment.
Taft Campaign Figures.
Mr. Mckinley read the figures he gave
"a the committee from pencilled men,
oranda which he dug out Of his trousers
pocket He told the committee they were
all he had 10 show for the handling OF
the fund. except books kept in the head
quarters that covered $4,000 spent direct
~ for ordinary campaign purposes. He
declared that his memory was not good
enough to recall all the purposes for
which money went out.
81 always thought had good mem
DRY until / got into that nix-up," Mr. Nc
KinIey explained, but saw "a new man
every five minutes In that whirl.
Mr.. Mckinley said he did not-know the
total amount that had been spent for
President Taft In the entire campaign
The amounts given by the respective
members of the Taft family were not fur