The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1912-05-16
Witness Denounces Au-
tho of Oh a rg es
Against Archibald.
SAYS HE'S TRAITOR
AND 'CUT-THROAT
Williams Furnishes Sensation
of Day at Hearing of Commit
tee Investigating Conduct of
Jurist-Repudiates Letter
Bearing His Signature.
Complicates Case.

washington. May lJ.-Edward j..
! Williams, of Scranton. Pa. chief wit
ness in the House judiciary Commit
tees investigation OF an alleged trans
action between Judge Rober, w Arch
( bald OF the Commerce Court. and the
Erie railroad. furnished a sensation
at ,o-day's hearing, when ne de-
nounced William p. goland also of
: Scranton. and author OF the charges
ngalns, the jurlst. as "a traitor. a cut
throat and dangerous man"
I While Williams hotiy denounced Bo-
land. who sat within arms length. he
I also charged him with once having
certain Information. By the time The
Stir was over. Williams had further
, complicated his testimony. lie rapu-
! dated a letter signed by him and sent
/ to Nice-President Conn, OF the Laurc!
! Linz. who had contracted TO buy tho
| katydid culm bank from Williams and
Archibald after they had secured an
option upon II from the Erie
a photograph Of the letter Is in pos
sess.on OF the Department OF Justice.
! but Conn testified It had never been
ont Of his possession. and that he had
not been party 10 Photographic Il.
y reference in the letter ito the party
with whom you have BEEN dealing"
| was construed to mean Judge Arch
bald. Attorney Worth!ngton, for the
Judge, sought 10 bring out an infer
cnce that Boland had inspired the let
ter and photographed 1t before /, was
sent to Conn.
Denies His Signature.
Williams. on the stand. declared hc
had never seen it, Notwithstanding the
signature was mis-.
"If you did not dictate this letter.
who do You think d!d?" asked Mr..
worth!ngton.
Maybe Judge Archibald dictated IT,"
said Williams. II haven't any Idea"
You admitted here the oth.r day
that you took another letter from
Judge Archibald to Mr.. Conn 10 W. II.
Boland and let him Photograph It.,
didn't your"
'ograph the letter" said Williams
You said while ago that Boland
had told you that he had done th!ngs
to others. What did you mean?"
why. he doped lawyer in seran-
ton 10 get some information out of
him" said Williams.
Did he tell YOU that?" asked Worth.
!ngton.
Yes; Boland told me that he gavs
him liquor in order to get information
but OF MIN W l!lIillI llZStEdl'i Is lnt
man. Mr.. Martin. who sits behind YOU.
knows him. Mr.. Price. OF Scranton,
knows him. too"
These two latter men are Judge
Archbalds associate counsel in tn.
case.
Mny HIVE Been Drunk.
do you think II possible that you
might have been under the influence of
liquor when you signed this letter to
Conn"
Yes. it's possible" Williams an
swered. "Boland might have taken
advantage of me. He's that kind of d
man. according to his own words to
me- He told me about copying all
those letters after had been before
the Attorney He said: You
didn't know what I was doing: you
We're as innocent as n child 1 was.
too. did not know what Boland was
doing, because he's a traitor. a cut
throat. a dangerous man"
Were YOU drunk the day you tooll
thu letters 10 Boland?" Representative
Sterling asked.
Il don't think So"
Did you talk TO Judge Archibald af-
ter you were subpoenaed about this
; case?" asked Chairman Clayton.
Yes. sir, and all Judge Archibald
told me was to tell the whole truth,
Did you ever tell a reporter IN
Scranton that YOU would clear Judge
Archibald BY your testimony here?"
Yes. I did said the whole truth
/ would come out and wouldn't hurt
him"
Did YOU use Judge Archibald 10
make money for yourself, or was Judge
Archibald using YOU to make money for
HIMSELF" Chairman Clayton continued.
hn1 hn c,,l,
ever I went to Judge Archibald" said
| Williams II only wanted him &. help
me"
did Judge Archibald ever tell YOU
that you might be rewarded in the flu
! turc If YOU gave favorable testimony
here or refrsIned from giving damag.
ing testimony"
NO. sir"
Did you ever tell any one he had
II never said such thing. and ]
dare any man to say that I did"
Not in Deal Now.
isn't 1t fact" asked Representa-
| tive Floyd. that right now you arc in
| a deal with another party in which
you are to get $1,000 because of your
supposed influence with Judge Arch,
| bald
Il don't know of any such DEAL" said
Williams.
Representative. Webb askad Williams
| II he thought it was proper for him
! to ask Judge Archibald. against whom
he was going to testify. for money to
| pay his fare to Washington. Williams
said it made no difference where he got
the money, he had told the truth. IL,
| also said that he had first asked DO.
| land for money, but was refused
| Conn testified that In a letter which
| Williams had written to him On March
| ~ 1911 rafarencn was mad ~ an