The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-08-24

probably "a a record OF this most unjust
course of attack against us.
We'll. was that a record as to these
contribut ions?"
"lt was a record, as l say, with reference
put out on Mr. Roosevelt's approval at
critical times
aYou have that report. have you?"
"We have all the report in our records.
The public records are the reports OF
Garfield and Smith. who are, Of course,
pulls the string"
,,., what HI 1T, is the purpose Of Withholding
There is no purpose in their publish
ing it or Withholding it. The time per-
! haps is not ripe. It Ia a matter Of history.
/ There is nothing to be done about il. We
have no recourse. We have suffered all
the distress and humiliation and loss
that could possibly be imposed upon us
as a result Of such line Of attack. not only
at home. but abroad. There never was
a more outrageous course Of action taken
on the part OF any administration in any
nation OF the world. Darkest Abyssinia
| never saw anything like the course OF
treatment which we experienced at the
hands Of the Administration following
Mr.. Roosevelts election in 1e0<.'
Senator Pomerene wanted to know to
what Mr.. Archbold attributed the unjust
attacks.
Amased At Attacks.
.well. I do not know-I do not know
said Archbold. biting his lips.
Q. You say you went TO Mr.. Bliss with
| respect to these attacks. you think. within
year after the election? A. Yes; after
the attacks had begun. We were amazed
| at them at the outset.
| q. Was anything said then about this
contribution A. Nothing whatever.
9. or the promise that had been made
| through Mr.. Bliss to the effect that you
would be given a square deal? A. Mr.
Bliss said: ''I have no influence at all
with Mr.. Roosevelt. 1t is to me huinli-
alton to say that have no influence at
all and cannot help you in the matter at
all
.. Was anything said at the time be-
tween you with respect to your having
made a mistake In not making this second
lcontribution? a. Oh. we'll there may have
been something said ! do not recall dis
tinctly about II. Mr. Bliss was not the
man to say IL told you so" The infer
cnce IN the whole matter to anybody who
will analyze II was very plain.
q. Well. can you give us the substance
OF what was said between you in that re-
spect? A. I think I have already given It.
He Has No Doubts.
@. Well, you have spoken Of inferences
that you draw. We may draw a different
inference from what you do. What was
the substance-g1ve the substance OF II.
A. The substance of It was that Mr.. Bliss
probably undoubtedly expressed himself
that II would have been different II VIC
had done as he wished us to do: and
myself have no doubt whatever on that
question.
O. DO YOU know whether Mr. Bliss had
| h> MAJ
or to Mr.. Roosevelt dering the campaign
, to the effect that you and your business
associates of the Standard oil Company
had declined to give any further contribu-
tions? A. do not know. i assume OF
course that ne so reported do not know
: in what shape he put the report. but that
he told them so is undoubtedly, OF course.
true.
MIR. Archbold introduced into the rec
ords all the letters that he could find In
his file that had passed between him and
Senator Penrose in 1904. There were
t functory character. Mr.. Archbold said
he could find no trace of the letter pur-
porting to bear his signature, in regard &c
!, the S25 900 contribution.
4 Mr.. Archbold referred to his talks with
ex-senator Scott of West Virginia and
ex-Senato or Dick of Ohio in regard to the
campaign. No reference. was made to
contribution except that Dick may have
mentioned that Standard Oil had done
something handsome for the campaign.
Credit in West Virginia..
OF his talk with Senator Scott. MIR
Archbold said We have some thou
8 sands OF interests in West Virginia. Scott
was disposed. as was his colleague. Mr.
Elkins to give us good deal Of credit for
t going into West Virginia with enough
' Republicans to turn the tide there over
r. h. 20 hA n,,kt ktno
D column. and they always spoke highly
t of us on that line.
t Mr.. Archbold added however that the
Z tide was turned back
i Yes said Senator Oliver. we wan,
to give you credit for turning 1t baci
1T is . great deal more credit than ",
l deserved commented Archbold with
= grin.
y make any contributions toward TIT
Democratic campaign? A. l do not re
call any.
q. Did your company? A. I do not re
. call any. ! do not think so.
.. Now. Mr. Archbold. believe yo,
said that at that time you had never me
:. transaction. Mr.. Cortelyou was chair
. man OF the National Committee. A. Yes
:. sir.
;, q. Did you, In a conversation with Mr
Bliss, or in any other way, have any in
:, formation leading you to suppose tina
= Mr.. Cortelyou was cognizant Of this con
tribution at the time It was made. O.
- about the time II was made7 A. Well. a
I did not meet Mr.. Cortelyou 10 II i'm
10 portant that l answer?
y Cortelyou Fails to Appear.
n Q. The committee desires TO know wha
you know AZ to Mr.. Cortelyou's knowl
h pdge. A. II you insist upon II. Mr-Bliss
when the question of the second contribu
:. tion. as ] recall II. was under consid
Y GRAFTON, desired to have Mr.. Cortelyo,
It meet mo for further presentation of tn
II matter on his part and I said "Surel
" will be glad to meet Mr.. Cortelyou
and the engagement was made to NEE
Il him.
vi Q. And kept? A. No. cir. Mr.. Bills
70 and no were TO como together. and MI
Bliss came alone at the time and said
+. II am here, as you see. Mr.. Archbold
II Mr.. Cortelyou did not think It advisabl
E. ITO come. and no said to me to say to 70,
l. which hardly need tell you-that any
t? thing I say 10 said for him and that
l. can say as well all that there Is to b
said" I regret to bring Mr.. Cortelyou'
10 name in. as ! did not see him.
II Senator Jones wanted to know II Mr.
S, Blies ever told Archbold in any way tina
he had informed Col. Roosevelt OF thi
contribution.