The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-05-14
FAIL TO AGREE UPON q
new SUBWAY DETAILS
Estimate and Public Service
Boards Committees sit
in Vain.
NOTHING LIKELY TO-DAY
Although Shonts Says Inter-
borough Offer May BE With
drawn Now.

After conferences in the morning and
afternoon yesterday lasting altogether
about five hours between committees Of
The Board OF Estimate and OF the Public
Service Commission the transit situation
was left In almost as badly a tangled con-
iition a. ever The Board Of Estimate ia
TO hold another special meeting this after
noon for the purpose Of endeavoring to
do something definite. but the prospect
Ia not worry encouraging President
Shonts Of the marlborough company has
said that unless the board acts to-day on
the proposals Of his company the Inter-
offer may be Withdrawn.
Borough President McAneny, who con-
trolls the situation in the Board Of Es.
innate. said bluntly yesterday that he and
his colleagues would not be prepared to
make any report to the board to-day.
and on the other side OF the conference
table Chairman Wilcox OF the Public
Service Commission asserted that the
Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company would
have to take the tunnel under the river
to Brooklyn from the Battery which had
been laid out for II or leave it, The atti-
tude taken By Mr.. Wilcox is that the
tunnels which have been mapped out are
for the best interests OF tho travelling
population of the city and that the COM
mission is not concerned with planning
routes which the Brooklyn and the Inter-
borough companies think would be OF
best advantage TO themselves from a
revenue point OF view. But while there
was stubbornnees shown on both sides,
II was admitted by both Mr.. Wilcox and
Mr.. McAneny that the outcome Of the
conferences which began yesterday might
lead to some understanding between the
commission and the Board Of Estimates 8
committee. though scarcely this after
noon
At the morning session financial matters
took up the time Of the meeting. Mr..
Wilcox said that the commission. in my
ing out its routes, had sought to cut those
routes to the city's financial cloth and
insisted that the city had not the money
to construct the new and modified plans
for which Mr.. McAneny il contending
Mr.. NicAneny replied that the city would
have Sl00. 900 900 to act aside at the he
ginning for the building Of the compre-
hensive transit system that he and his
colleagues on the committee desired
and he added that the additional amount
necessary to carry out his scheme would
be forthcoming during the five years
that it would take for the construction
work The city. he declared. would in
both the Interborough and b. r. T. pians
After an interval for lunch the conieree,
begun the consideration OF routes. espe.
oially those which have been planned
to carry the two companies from the
Battery under the East River to Brook
lyn. II il the location OF these two tun.
nels that has chiefly led to the differences
between the Board OF Estimates COM
mittee and the Public Service Commits.
sion Mr.. McAneny favors the Liberty
street route for the Interborough and the
giving OF the Whitehall street tunnel
to the B. r. T. The Brooklyn company
is also anxious to have line over Man
haitian Bridge to Canal street in this
borough. so that connection can he
made with its proposed Broadway cub.
way
When the afternoon conference broke
up no agreement OF any kind had been
reached II was said that the talk had
bee confined almost entirely to abstract
ques tions Of engineering difficulties and
operating possibilities concerning the
suggested new routes, The majority o
the comm ission adhered to their opinion
that it would be to the advantage of thu
/ city to keep the Brooklyn company t.
the Beaver a treet tunnel.
Engineers OF both the lnterborough ant
| Brook lyn Rapid Transit companies wer,
present at the conferences. All of then
advocated the McAneny plans. III,
marlborough engineers even support *
the b X, rs suggested Canal stree
connection. But while Mr., Wiilco,
listened carefully to the opinions of IN,
engineers urging the laying out OF fhi
smphaticslly that he would not spprov
Of such a route al this time, and he wa
supported in this attitude by Borough
President Miller OF The Bronx
At the close OF the conference the only
formal stat ement made by any OF thos,
who attended came from Chairman Will
COX.
Neither the Brooklyn Rapid Transi
Company not the lnterborough company,
he said. can coerce me into voting fo
lines they are seeking without regar,
terests will best be served by making tn
Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company TAX
the Beaver street tunnel or the Whitehall
street line to Atlantic avenue in Brooklyn
lines whicl, the Mayor has already ap
proved Of.
When Mr.. McAneny was asked IL h
thought his committee would be in
position to make some sort OF report :
the special meeting this afternoon Of tn
Board OF Estimate he replied that he wa
unable 10 say what position the committe
would be in after the conference, whic
! was adjourned until 1890 this morning
! DO you think that the board, in Vie
OF Mr.. Shonts's ultimatum, will seek I
pass resolution favoring the dual syst 81
a. laid ont by the Public Service Con
mission?" Mr.. McAneny was asked
J 1T will not was Mr.. McAneny'a en-
. phatic reply. Mr. McAnepy has wit
: him ten OF the sixteen votes in the Boar
OF Estimate.