The Washington herald., 1912-04-25
CAPTAIN KNEW
TITANIC WOULD
ENCOUNTER ICE
Continued from rass one.

six lookout men whose sole duty II Is to
maintain watch all the time
Asked II there were any women left on
the deck OF the Titanic when he left the
ship. Mr.. Lightoller replied:
''0n the port side I can say Of my
own knowledge there were no women
left on the boat deck. S. Hemmings,
man who was with me. and whom
know to be a good. reliable man. went
the whole length of the ship ON the
| starboard side and crossed over at the
bridge. and he reported to me he saw
no women ON the boat deck except two
who were standing amidships ON the
bridge. They were doing nothing and
making no effort TO get TO any boat
The committee then brought up the
matter Of the telegrams sent by Mr..
Ismay from the Carpathia regarding the
proposed detention Of the Cedric.
Kept Men Together.
Mr.. LlghtoIler said he was cognizant
OF that matter. and then spoke as fol-
| lows:
'On the Carpathia other officers and I
agreed that II would be a good idea II
We could all catch the Cedric. We agreed
that Il would be best to keep the men
together. We thought that IL they were
allowed TO hang around New York that
they might ship somewhere else. mas
much as their jobs ceased with the sink
ing OF the Titanic In other cases like
this the seamen have been offered berths
as servants and the like by saloon pas
sengers. Many OF them often go on
private yachts.
II talked with Mr.. Ismay and told
him Il would be best that we catch the
Cedric When the fog caused delay.
making II doubtful II we could catch the
Cedric, / told him the best thing TO do
would be TO hold up the Cedric. When
the reply came. as 1 understand from
Mr.. Franklin, l said he ought to insist
on holding the Cedric.
"And / want to say here. gentlemen.
that Mr.. Isrnay. while on the carpathia,
did not seem in any mental condition TO
decide anything. tried TO arouse Mr..
Ismay and get him In a proper frame OF
mind. He kept repeating. and seemed
Obsessed by the idea, that he ought to
women had gone down.. I had difflculty
getting this obsession out of his head,
and so did the doctors. You can call the
doctor 70 verify this"
Later. Senator Smith reverted to this
subject again and said:
You made statement. Mr.. LightoIler,
about Mr.. Ismay-a voluntary statement
u.
not tell OF this in New York;
Because the question OF the kilograms
about the Cedric was not raised then"
retorted Lightoller. "Since then all this
paper talk has come UP. with criticism.,l
and feel myself principally responsible
for those kilograms being sent. 1 urged
Mr.. Ismsy to send them"
The matter was allowed to drop here.
Ordered ISmay Into Boat.
Senator Smith also asked Mr. LigntolIer
about Ismay's departure from the ship. |
LightoIler said that on the Carpathia he |
was told that Mr.. Wild, one OF the Of
ficers. a big powerful man. ordered MIR. |
Ismay into a boat after telling him |
there were no more women on the snip, |
and that then. MIR. Ismay demurring. |
Wild bundled him into the boat There /
ensued a heated dialogue between the
Senator and Mr.. Lightoller regarding /
whether Mr.. LightolIer said good even
marked by sharp and sarcastic state
ments on both sides.
Captain Had Warming.
Senator Smith then took up the mat
ter Of whether the Titanic had been
warned Of the proximity OF ice. Ligh-
toller's statement amounted TO this:
That he had been shown a wireless
message by Capt. Smith about noon on
Sunday, which gave the approximate
latitude and longitude of some ice. This
he regarded as information, he said.
and also as a warning to the extent that
he worked out the time at which the
Titanic would probably be nearest this
ice.
He found the ship would be near the
position Of the ice about II o'clock that
night He told oficer Murdock Of this
twice, first, unofflcially in his quarters,
and then at 10 o'clock that night on the
bridge, when Murdoc,= relieved him.
Lightoller also said that when he went
on the bridge he gave directions to Mr..
Moody, the sixth officer, to direct the
lookout men to keep a sharp watch for
small ice until daybreak. and pass the
word along.
Did you ever know Of ship chang
ing her route because of ice?" asked
Smith.
No, sir. Those routes were laid out
by the men of the United States navy
and we adhere to them. We have what
we call the ice route, which We take
when the ice is very thick.
but this extreme southern track is
taken only upon orders from the COM
pany.''
''Did you ever know" asked the SEN
II
changed by a commander after leaving
port, when he had given him informa-
tion about 4ce?"
Sometimes Altered Course.
when you have the exact position
of derelict. which is more dangerous
than ice, sometimes commander will !
alter his course few miles to avoid J
Il" replied Lightolier.
''AIr. LishtoIler." then said Senator
smith. were the passengers notified that 1
he ship was sinking?''
Il have no absolute knowledge TO that {
sffect." replied the witness, but 1 feel
sure II was done. because I saw the
oursers. their four assistants. and two s
II the DOCTORS on the bridge shorelv be- !
ore the ship sank. and they-apparentiy
rad finished all their work, and their {
inty inclrded arousing the passengers 9
from this I conclude that all the people {
we're properly notified None Of the '
,ursers or their assistantsN NEurviyed." ID
At this uoint- IizhfoIler Wna excused | I