The Washington herald., 1912-10-04

nothing to do with the campaign"
Nothing with reference to the political
situation?"
II do not think so. do not remember
ever to have had any on that subject" !"
Talked to Many.
Q.-During the campaign Of 1904, did
you have any conferences with other
financiers of New York on the subject
OF the political situation? Al do not
remember them, but have no doubt I
did.
o.-with whom did you talk on that
subject? A.-That would be a pretty diff
cult question to answer; probably every
Cne.
Odd you have any conferences with
the presidents or officials of the large
insurance companies in New York on this
subject? A.-On the question of sub
scriptions. or on the situation?
Q.-On the question of the political situ-
alton. Alt Is very difficult for me. Mr..
Senator. to answer that question I can
not say whom did and did not see.
Q.-Was there any conference at any
time. during the campaign of 1904 in which
you participated, touching the subject as
to who should be supported by these
financial interests for the Presidency?
A.-No. sir.
Q.-when was It first determined that
these different interests would subscribe
to the Republican campaign fund? A.
What interests
OIL mean the general financial inter-
ests. Al never had any conference
with anybody on that subject
Q.-Do you recall whether YOU suggest
ed the names of any probable contrfbu-
tors? A.-No. sir; I do not-at least do
not remember doing It. / only spoke of
~ Gfh
rather.
Q.-Were you much interested In the
result of this 1904 campaign. as a busi-
ness man? A.-Oh. / was; yes. sir.
Q.-what did Mr.. Perkins say to you
as to how the insurance companies felt
on that subject? Al could not tell you
now. do not remember.
Dwell, did you have Information
during the campaign at any time that
there would be a large fund subscribed
or promised by the financial interests of
New York to the Roosevelt fund? A
No. sir; I never heard OF II. I do not
believe any such thing ever existed.
Odd Mr.. Hartman at any time re-
port to you that he had had a talk with
President Roosevelt on the subject Of
railroad and business conditions? Al
do not remember any but / do not doubt
that he did.
Q.-And as to what Mr.. Roosevelt's
attitude would he toward these business
interests in the event of his election? A.
No, sir, I think not.
Speaks with Feeling.
This last question Mr.. Morgan an
swered with a good deal OF feeling. He
leaned forward in his chair and asked
permission to make a statement.
Certainly" said Chairman Clapp.
Il want 1t distinctly understood" said
the banker. his eyes flashing, that ]. p.
Morgan & Co. never made a single sub
scription TO any election with any prom
iss or expectation Of anything. or re-
turn in any way. shape or manner. and
we never made a contribution without
We demed II advantageous for the gov
ernment. and the people. We never had
a communication from any candidate.
We never had an application from any
candidate for money, and anything that
we did, or that was done under my sug
gestion-and We were all in harmony
was that II was necessary for the good
OF the country. and the business. or the
people. There was never a commitment.
or any expectation of any return. and
we never got any return. either. from
anybody, II / may be allowed to say
it,
Q.-I will ask you whether during the
campaign you did not have a talk with
Mr.. Hartman, and that as a result of
that conference II was decided that your
firm and the other large interests in New
York would give their support, financially
and otherwise, to the Republican cam
paign? A.-Never. I never had any gen.
eral understanding or meeting, or any,
thing of that kind
You asked me- said Mr.. Morgan. ad-
dressing Pomerene. ''as II you thought
there might have been a combination in
favor Of the election. / say, Never: not
to my knowledge"
Not for Democrats.
Q-was there at any time any confer
ence looking to the nomination of a
nan on the Democratic ticket who would
Je suitable to the financial interests of
New York? Al do not remeber any.
Q.-Was there at any time any amount
,iedged or promised by the financial
interests during that campaign to the
campaign fund? A.-From
whom?
Senator Pomerene: Well. from yourself
,r your business associates, so far as
'!r.
Q.-And you say that you know of no
conferences. or no special con-
erences, even looking to a subscription
o the campaign fund? A.-No, sir.
Q.-During this talk did you have any |
ak with anybody representing or pur-
,orting to represent the Republican nom- |
rec? A.-Never; except the National |
1 suppose they represented
lin.
Q.-Yes. You talked with Mr.. Cortel-
'ou on the subject? Al do not remem-
,er any particular conversation with Mr..
rortelyou.
Odd he call at your ofice during
he campaign? Ale did.
Q.-How frequently? Al do not think
e was there more than two or three
lines.
Ole came there to discuss with you
he political situation? A.-No. I suppose
he wanted more money, or something or
,tker of that kind, when he came; 1
10 not remember.
Odd he talk with you on the sub
ect of contributions? Al do not remem-
,re, but think it Is very likely he did.
Before Bliss Contribution.
o.-were those talks with Mr.. Cortel-
,ou before or after you handed to Mr..
Bliss the $780, 900? Al should think
before.
Q.-Now, after you gave the 100000 to-
Mr.. Bliss, did you have any talk with
lin between that date and the election
ouching further contributions? Al
hink he was there when that 10000 was |
,aid. That was afterward.
Q.-What was said at that time. II you |
emember? Al do not remember.
Q.-But you have a pretty distinct recol- |
ection that he called and did talk with |