Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1912-10-26
Defendant Identified as Man
Who Showed Detective How
to Install DiCtagraph in Nc
Namara Headquarters,
GAVE INFORMATION
TO GOVERNMENT
Former Explosion Expert Al
legged to Have Said He Was
in for It and Did Not Want
TO Suffer by Himself,

my Morning journal Special leased Wire.
indianapolis. oct. 25.-Hcrbcrt >
uockin, a defendant in <thc dynamite
conspiracy trial, who succeeded John
j. Mcnamara. the dynamitcr, as secre-
tary Of the Iron Workers union, was
identified by four witnesses today as
having given information to the gov
.ernncnt against his forty-four fellow
defendants.
Walter Drew, a New York counsel
for the National Erectors' association,
testified that Hockin had said.
Il know they've got me, but | don't
want TO be the only one.
The witness said that during the
sessions of last winter of the federal
grand jury which returned the indict-
mcnts Iiockin offered to give informa-
lion, but was turned away with the
remark, go to the district attorney
and make clean breast of il. He is
the only person With authority to make
promises.
'''Iockln came to me several times
and told me nay life was in danger,
said Mr.. Drew. He told me fellows
Tvoitmore and Ed Nicholas, were after
me ana that mad better lookout for
Il fellow named John stevens, Of Chi
cago lie said he would warn me
later when might expect danger.
Another time he came to my room
at club and in the presence of j. r.
Foster, Il detective, arranged to let
us have the key of the iron workers
offices SO We might put in telc-
phone device by which we would be
able at all times to record what Pres-
dent Frank NJ, Ryan and others said
about the dynamiting. At first Hockin
said 'you know I've got TOO much
brains to get mixed up with McNa-
mara. But when ! replied, NO, YOU
haven't any brains but only a low
cunning, and we've Sot the goods on
YOU. ne weakened.
MIR Drew said that Il strike had been
declared by the iron workers union
in 1905, ana explosions on work of
members Of the crectors association
began soon after that time.
senator j. W. Kern, for the defense,
asked.
isn't one of the members of the
crcctors' association "A subsidiary of
the United States Steel Corporation -
Il believe 1t is said Mr.. Drew.
Ilockln is the man who Ortie r.
McManigaI said put him in the dyna-
miting business and who engineered
many OF the jobs blown up by McMan-
sal aud james Il. Mcnamara. He Is
also accused by the government OF
having double crossed the union Of
f.cials.
Thomas f. MurkeS. photographer.
testified that he saw IIockin visit the
srand Jury room with bundles of pa
pers and later saw him in the iron
workers office when detectives visited
1t to secure photographs of letters. The
witness said Hockin on one occasion
had said I've got to get away from
here before any one sees me"
Charles schmidt "A deputy United
States marshal. also said Hockin had
visited the federal building with pa
pers.
Guy Caldwell, an elevator boy. idcn- !
titled lIocltin as having visited Drew $
rom.
When attorneys objected to- a re-
quest that IIockn stand up. Judge An
dtrson said.
stand up. Hockin. It's absurd to
ask Jury to try case without know /
ing whether the defendant is present " /
liockin then stood up.
g. T. Washburn, OF Chicago. testi- |
fled about installing the telephone de- I
vice IN the iron workers headquarters |
slr said II was done before daylight |
last December, himself and the de- (
icctivc walking through the office
building barefooted SO as not to make
n noise He said the door was un-
locked 10y Detective Foster.