The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 18??-19??, 1912-12-03
Conversations With H. S.
Hockln an important Part
ONLY ONE MORE WITNESS

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tht N~"\anlar.S and Drue T. u N.I8
sal%after The Los Angeles Tt..~ ~
Hloslen Wa teld ~ him atth. -szi..-
mite 0N"n~llra TRIAL totay
y n, IN, # "a ,Spie> ,t .a
october y 1910. IL said II, "a
Angeles and The neNt oat -
Was employed hy Major A..N,n-
der. If Los Angeles. t. r.n
down the dNnamiler>. Iie re
nlalntd on the PACING coast nti IL.
latter part OF December when H. Re-
turned To Chicago. Nm chicago. -.
said, he met Herbert :. Hogkin. now
secretary OF the lr~onworkcrs unloI
fiockin is accused hy the q \ernmrnt
Of having betrayed the dynamIters
while he himself was 4 dynamiter
Mr.. Burns in substance testified.
"lio@kin told me he would not h.>.
net nle # il We're not for the fact
that the dynamitcrs were going 10 IL
a lot Of killing. lie said John n. Nc
\amara, then secretary OF IN. union.
had employed James b. Mcnamara
and McManiEal TO Kill az many PEG
pie as possible to bring about tn.
result he hoped for. l asked IIo,Mn
where he got his Information that
people on the Pacific coast were gong
70 blow me up. He said olaf A.
Tveitmoe, of San Francisco, was lock-
ing after the plot. | told him be
Ieved TNeitmOe would do it II he had
a chance, for | had opposed Tvtitn4oe
in the San Francisco graft lnvestiga-
ton and | had sent my son. RAYMOND
to Minnesota to get 4 photograph II
JNeitmoe in the penitentiary uniform
and had it published in San Francisco.
L asked HOCkin il it was not true
that every member of the iron work
ers executive board knew about the
explosions He said neither they nor
President Frank NJ. Ryan knew what
John j. did kept perhaps Eugene
\. CLANCY, OF San Francisco. I told
him it was not possible for money 10
be appropriated every month for Nc
Na1nara without others higher mp
knowing Of it. | told Hockin ! pro
posed to get the men higher up. I
did not want merely local men. H.,
said John j. was the man ! wanted.
4 offered to pay Hockin to core in
to my employ, but he said he would
accept only his | told HIM
at that time Los Angeles had c.ased
TO pay me and now ! had not only to
fight ~dNnamiters, bat also a class IF
men opposed to civic decenoS III san
Francisco.
Il told him on the day after III"
Los Angeles explosion ] had inform
- Nio 'lt - ~
Nanlara and Tyeitnloe uero hehlni
the explosion. | impressed him with
the fact that | did not want 10 arrest
John J.. and James r.. and depend
On their making confessions, and /
Was afraid to watch J.. JNdt Indian
alOllS too much. aa they ,TIlght learn
Of it and the whole thing Wuul1 how
up
Questioned hy senator 7. " Kern
for the defense about getting VI
haniEaIS first confession in chicago
shortly after me arrests, Burns -
asked:
'Did MeManigal impIicate afvore
leSides the NcNanaras""
He mentioned only NlehatI ]
Young. OF Boston. IN connection v}t.f
the explosion at Springfield. Mass
and ne implicated Hocki As halIII
procured nitro-glyccrins and Is ha.-
irG employed hin. to blow lp 4 tIt.I-
Jig in Detroit"
District Attorney Miller stat.d mat
only one more witness for tn. GO sr.-
ntent viii he called cn Noudas at.I
then the government VII re~t .tS
case.