Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-12-17
Mr.. Harvey Fails to Attend.

DIR. Van Schaick announced that Mr..
Harvey had found it would be impossible
for him to be present and that neffort
made to obtain other representatives of
the liquor interests to participate in the
discussion had failed.
To the surprise Of the members, he
stated that he WOULD take the floor in
to that time. had not appeared and it
was evident that the question would have
to be opened for general debate.
Just as every one was wondering what
DR.. Van Schaick might have to say COM
mandatory of the liquor traffic DIR. Ba-
ker arrived and the president Of the club
retired In his favor. Requests made of
him later in the evening to speak in
favor of the saloon were unavailing.
to the Punishment of the 'growler'' was
under discussion DR.. Van Schaick asked
the members OF the club to consider
whether this new regulation is a real re-
FORM He intimated that he considered
the order q discrimination against the
Rev. Wilbur " Mallalieu took prac-
tically the same position in regard to the
"growler.'' He said that, in his opinion,
abolition of the "growler" is no great re-
form except for the appearance of things.
LAS far as promoting temperance, don't
know that it will do it at ALL" he con-
cluded.
Approve "Growler" Order.
Despite these assertions by DR.. Van
Schaick and Rev. Mallalieu and the fact
that the general discussion failed to in
dictate that the members are to any con-
siderable extent enthused over the excise
boards action in regard to the "growler,"
the club gave its unanimous approval to
the boards order.
For the most part. the discussion dealt
with the liquor traffic question generally,
excise needs Of the District of Columbia
being given limited consideration. The
social value of the saloon was brought
out, several speakers urging that, If the
saloon is to be abolished some form Of
recreation or social diversion must be
substituted in it's place.
Municipal ownership of saloons was adj
vOcated by William d. Mackenzie. This
speaker declared that he does not believe
In public utilities being intrusted to pri-
vate enterprise, and that, likewise, it is
his opinion that the drinking evil will be
diminished if saloons are owned and OPP
Grated by the government.
Important to Communities Health.
DR.. William C. Woodward. health Off
Ger of the District of Columbia, declared
that the health departments Of munich
palities are giving more attention to the
temperance question. realizing that it
plays an important part in a community's
health.
Dr. Baker stated he was not familiar
with excise legislation. pending or pro-
posed. for the District Of Columbia. but
he outlined the purposes of the Anti
Saloon League and stated that this Or
ganizatiOn is making it business to in
form the constituents of members of Con-
gress how their representatives stand on
all liquor questions.
Ernest P. Bicknell. Charles f. Nesbit,
Mrs Louis Gutenberg, Mrs. II. K. Moore
and others spoke. Dr. Van Schaick offer
ed resolution that the club ndorse the
Jones-Works bill. but an objection was
offered by Mr.. Ufford that possibly many
members had not sufficiently studied this
measure. The motion was withdrawn
and the substitute resolution of Mr.. Uf-
ford above referred to offered. The
meeting was presided over by Louis OF
tenberg.