Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-03-03
bERGER'S HOT TALK
BRINGS ON Arrow
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Infatuated the strikers, and that is the
way they investigated the killing"
| Lpson defended Ettor, who is now in
jail declaring he had always counseled
| the strikers to keep cool.
/ But being desperate, seeing the last
piece of bread taken from them. seeing
their women without clothing and their
little children going barefooted, the strik-
| ers may have resorted to mild acts OF
| violence. such as throwing chunks of ice
| and snow
There had been no talk. Lipson said, of
any dynamiting by the strikers, but he
mentioned that one Of the members of
the Lawrence school board, a man named
Breen. who was not in any way con-
nected with the strikers. had been held in
5000 bail for planting" explosives.
/ why did the strikers want to send
| their children away from Lawrence?
Representative Stanley of Kentucky, in
quired.
ITO keep them from being hurt" Lip
one of my children opened his eyes to me
and said, Why do the soldiers treat peo-
pie that way? Why do they stick their
bayonets in them? So then sent them
away to New York to be taken care of. J"
Says Scope Is Too Broad.
At this point Representative Robert o.
Harris of the fourteenth Massachusetts
district who lives at East Bridgewater.
protested against the broad character
that the examination of Lpson took on.
! He asserted that Lpson was discussing
matters with which the federal govern
ment could have no concern, and request
| ed that he be limited to the incident OF
the prevention of the children from leav-
ing Lawrence. Chairman Henry declared
that the investigation involved the facts
leading up to the incident at the depot,
but asked that all concerned limit their
testimony as closely possible.
Mr.. Harris said there were present a
committee of four members, representing
C. T. Lynch. chairman of the committee
! of safety; j. T. Sullivan, city marshal;
D. K. Murphy, city solicitor. and Robert
j. Mccartney, a Lawrence merchant.
| Lewis S. Cox, postmaster of Lawrence,
| was on hand to act as attorney for the
| committee.
/ Representative Berger objected to Mr..
Cox cross-examining Lipson
| He may take this Witness" he said.
land by his questions freeze out all the
| rest"
There is no possibility of that" said
Chairman Henry. for il these people
| are SO poor and have no money for ae-
Communications here we will hold night
| Mr.. Stanley inquired If the strikers
were represented by eminent counsel"
No" Mr. Berger replied. They have
| a good young lawyer here, but don I
able to conduct my own cases with sue
/ cess, although l am newspaper man
| and not a lawyer.
Witness Cross-Examined.
Mr.. Cox then examined Lipson and had
Ia lively time Of it. The witness insisted
on arguing every question, and at times
| returned replies that set the audience in
an uproar. Half dozen times Chairman
Henry had to rap for order. and finally
he threatened to clear the room unless
| those in the audience behaved them
| selves. LipSon admitted that some weeks
he had received as high as SIT for his
| work as weavor in the Lawrence mills,
| although he had testified in the morning
| his pay was between 50 and $40. and that
sometimes he got as little as 50 or ~.
| You had some trouble with the pO-
/ iice?" asked Cox.
| well. who started ft?'' cried the wit
1 ness, eXcitedly.
And some people were arrested" Cox
| continued.
| That's no news to u.s." Lpson answer
| ed, in mournful tones.
| Representative Stanley then inquired,
without any apparent connection with the
| testimony, If the witness had noticed dur
/ ing the trouble with the police. man
| standing under an umbrella with a fire
hose playing on him. shooting off re-
| Lipson looked somewhat dazed and re-
piled. with apparent sincerity, that he had
| not
Representative Foster Of Illinois asked
I.ipson If it were true that the striking
| textile workers had thousands of dollars
| deposited in the savings banks of Law
| renee.
.Oh. no." cried Lipson, in reply. How
could men getting five or six dollars a
week put money in the savings bank"
But wasn't it discovered Mr.. Foster
| continued, that one of the striking wOm-
en-, who was hurt and taken to the poor
| farm had $7GO in cash with herr"
Had Received a Legacy.
| Lipson admitted that this was true, but
explained that she had just received her
money as legacy from the old country.
He added that at the poor farm they
| kept her one day and deducted 81 from
| the 500 for her lodging.
| How much money did the woman have
| who was with the one carrying 500, when
| they We're both taken to the poor farm
| asked Cox.
.'She had about half that sum- replied
| I.ipson, explaining again that this woman
/ ceased relative in the old country.
Representative Wilson OF Pennsylvania.
/ chairman of the committee on labor and
| author Of one of the resolutions Of in
| vestigation, asked permission at this point
| to interrupt Lipson's testimony and put
John Golden of Fall River, president of
the Textile Workers Union, on the stand.
| He explained that Mr.. Golden had to
| leave town this evening.
Mr.. Golden started in by contradicting
| the statements Of Representative Berger
made at the morning session.
| MIR. Berger he said. who has never
been in Lawrence, made the statement
| that the Industrial Workers of the World
represent 2O,O0O of toe Lawrence mill
hands, and that I, affiliated with the
American Federation of Labor, represent
| just 100. The truth of the matter is
that when this revolution in Lawrence
occurred the official books of the Indus
trial Workers of the World show that
| the organization had just 247 members.
That organization is two years old. The
| organization 1 represent has 2OS men,
bers in Lawrence and is twenty-five
years old
Again Contradicts Berger.
Continuing to controvert Mr.. Berger's
statement. Golden said that 70 per cent
| Of the 1000 textile workers in Lawrence
either had left the city or had returned