New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-04
COUPE WILL IDENTIFY
4 GUNNER At TRIALS
viii Be States Fourth Witness
to Connect Them with Actual
Shooting of RoSenthaI.

to Connect Them with Actual
Shooting of RosenthaI.
Whether the testimony ofThomas Coupe,
the former Elks' Club clerk, against the
four gunner to be tried for the murder
OF Herman Rosenthal would be Of real
value to the state has been question
which District Attorney Whitman has
been trying to determine ever since the
witness was brought back from England
by Assistant District Attorney De Ford.
In a statement Coupe made to the Dis
trict Attorney before his flight abroad
because of threats against his life If he
remained here and testified against
Charles Becker, he declared he saw the
four gunner leaving the scene OF the
crime in the gray automobile. He failed
however, at that time to Identify the men.
The uncertainty was cleared up yester-
day when It was learned that Coupe mad
at last mustered his courage and let u
be known in the District Attorneys once
that he could and would identify Lefty
Louie. Whitley Lewis, "Dago' Frank
and "Gyp" the Blood as the men he had
seen in the car.
With Coupe's Identification of the gun
men the state has four witnesses VINO are
ready TO connect the gunner with the
actual shooting of Rosenthal, ana the
case of the prosecution Is greauy
strengthened. Krause, the walter; Sha-
piro, the murder car driver, and Stanlsh'
the Austrian engineer, are the other three.
Gunner Confer with Counsel.
Charles G. F.. Wahle, counsel for the
gunmen. spent nearly three hours with
his clients yesterday in the counsel room
at the Tombs. Mr.. Wahle said atterWard
that the conference had been for the pur-
pose OF cleaning up the final points IN the
defence OF his clients. The gunner ap-
peared clipper and not in the least wor-
ried about their approaching trials when
seen in the counsel room with their law
yer.
Mr.. Wahle declined to let them talk any
more for publication. He said they had
talked enough, and he instructed them
not 10 give out any more interviews from
now on. They appeared somewhat disap-
pointed at this.
Mr.. Wahe denied the report that the
Sam Paul Association had raised a fund
for the defence OF the gunner. He said
two of his clients had bank accounts and
that all were more thrifty than the gem
eral impression had been. He would
show at the trials, he added, that they
were not the desperate characters they
had been depicted.
"AlI want is 10 have my clients tried
fairly for the crime for which they have
been indicted" he said. THE question Is
Did they murder Herman Rosenthal? !
am not placing any halos around their
heads. but they are not going TO be tried
on charges rejecting on their past
careers.
Il want an intelligent jury OF average
New York men, for our line OF defence
will make an impression on such JURY
shall not be particular as to the color
Of the Jurors eyes or their age or station
in life. We can probably get such jury
in four or five hours, or 1t may take
little longer. ..r.,.-,.-- ...-.gsrp- :, ~
eve have no newly discovered EVIL
dence. but the evidence Will be new IN
that several witnesses will appear for the
defiance who did not testify at the Becker
trial The defence viii be about the same
I'm the case OF each man. The UNDER
standing now is that Whitley Lewis VIII
he tried first. on November 8, and the
others separately after that There Will
be some surprises at the trials in view OF
what has been said about the four de-
PENDANTS az the Becker trial
Jack" Sullivan Talks Again.
Jack" sullivan Jacob Reich) = who II
Jointly indicted with the gunner. gave
out a brief interview from the TombS
Yesterday. sullivan has become an OPP
timist since he was transferred back on
saturday 70 cell on one OF the tiers
from the annex" where he described
his experience az SOLITARY confinement
lie declared that he expected to get out
of tho Tombs within week,
lie did not explain whether he intend
ed 10 attempt 10 escape or whether he
had finally persuaded the District AttorT
ney to consent TO his release Mr. Whit
man sshd last night that be had not been
informed of Sullivan's contemplated de-
parture.
Sullivan said he would make an alh-
davlt concerning the Rosenthal case When
hc got out OF the city prison--and woutu
give II 10 the newspapers, too-whlch
would explain a good many things ana
, make some peoples hair stand on END
Sullivan illustrated his remark by grasp
ing one Of his own shaggy locks and ele-
Ling n az far "a It's length would al
low. =, -.
up on. Becker by Rose, Weber NalIon
and Schepps, and said that II he was
cvCr byoI.uht TO trial-a situation which
ne thought unlikely 10 develop his story
would be thoroughly corroporated by
other witnesses.