The Wheeling intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1903-1961, 1912-04-25

~ after the recess.
Senator Burton asked the witness
10 relate his conversation with Ismay
on the Carpafhia- Lghtaller said he
and his brother officers talked over
the sailing OF the Cedric and agreed
II souid have been a Jolly good idea
II they could catch the vessel II
would result In keeping the men to-
gether and let every one get home.
Mr.. lsmay. when the weather
thickened. remarked 20 me-" said
Lightoller. that A was hardly pos
sible that We could catch the boat. He
asked me II ! thought IL desirable that
he send a wireless to hold the Cedric
and I said Most certainly The tele-
gram was sent. We we're all agreed
that IT was the best course, and we
all advised IT,"
Ismay Wanted to Drown.
Lightoller declared that when the
telegram came from New York saying
the Cedric would not be held he urged
Mr.. Ismay to insist upon the Cedric
being held. -
II will say hat at that time Mr..
lsmay was in no mental condition to
transact business" said Lightoller.
He seemed to be possessed with the
ideaThat he ought to have gone down
with the ship because there were
women who went down. I tried my
best to get that idea out OF his head.
but could not. I told him that there
was more for him 10 do on earth and
that he should not let the idea pos
sess him that he had done a wrong
in not staying back TO drown.
The doctor on the Carpathia had
trouble with Mr.. Ismay on the same
ground. and | am sure that doctor
will verify my statements"
II was told on the Carpathia that
Chief Oficer Wild. who was working
at the forward ~collapsible boat. told
Mr.. Ismay there were no more women
to go. Ismay still stood back and
Wild. who was a big. powerful man.
bundled him into the collapsible
boat
who told you this powerful offcer.
Mr.. Wild. ordered Mr.. Ismay into the
boat?'
II don't know
Senator Smith said that in previous
testimony the witness had declared
he had not spoken 10 Mr.. Ismay. This
Lightoller denied. The chairman
piled him with questions.
THAT is all in my previous testimo.
NY" said the oficer. You can find II
there"
81 know we can find Il there re
torted Senator Smith. with asperity,
'i"Your memory. however. seems to be
better to-day than il was last week
I'd like TO test II out"
People Were Gone.
Lightoller said that 8. Hemmings
a lampman. who was waiting to ties
tify before the committee. walked the
length OF the ship just before she
sank and had seen only W women
; How do you account for the 1906
people who could not be found
where were they when the boats
left?"
; THAT 1 cannot fathom; perhaps
Hemmings can %enlighten you. 7 aid
not go aft"
Lighttoller said a vessel of the Tt
tanic's tonnage going at a rate OF II
knots an hour could be stopped in 3
minute and a half. or a distance of a
quarter of a mile.
Robert Hichens, q uartermaster in
charge OF the lifeboat which took oil
Major Peuchen and others, next took
the witness chair. and testified that
when the collision occurred he was N
the THAMES wheel. lie said the of.
GERS had been warned 10 look out for
small ice. and that he had been
ordered to have the heaters started n
the chart room. The first he knew OF
the collision was when the order came
down from the bridge, Berg ahead"
The first officer rushed over 10 give
; the order Hard a-starboard.' and tae
second officer returned Helm a hard
] over. sir; but by that time we were
into the berg. We could hear the
grinding OF II. The skipper. Captain
! Smith. came rushing out. asking whal
was the matter. and immediately
ordered Mr.. Murdoch TO close the
emergency doors. The ship had a list
Of FIVE degrees TO starboard within Eve
minutes. ] stayed at the EbsOJ VHtJ
y %.
Women Had 10 Row.
p About that time one OF the officers
7 said Wen get out the boats and
? was put In charge OF 40. s and or
dered 10 put away toward a distant
light ! had IS women. one seaman
myself. an Italian and the major.
told them We would have 20 pull away
from the ship. as she was going dowr
by the head. Everybody had 20 row
and I even asked the omen We
; started for the light. which we ex
pected was on a ~cob-banker
There were several other boat,
around. One that had four or ID,
men came up. and I borrowed one
fireman from &c. We never got ans
nearer the light Then We tied out
Z boats together and stayed there unit
We saw tho Carpathia coming The
sea was getting choppy and the 40
men we're getting nervous refIetne
one af D. n and told her fo take
fhe tiller A Mrs Meyer got mad al
mo and accused me OF wrapping ny
. self .n 40 the blautefs drinking All
the uhiEkeF and using bad IanEuare
which D deny
senator Smith wanted 10 know 4
H.rrens bed anH is1il. .r Coo t1a.
eth Nal0r reurhen He replied fft
major bad tried f0 frEf command
etory q lie
b r bad been testified r1 ffrf HIrfrr0
bad refused f1 Fo tsrs anf r.rf .
CHER slrrIr0ra Nrrn rf frr urmar
s 1 fhe rosf bad assei BIN '0 rr tark
he said