Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1912-04-25


interfering with the proper lowering
of the boats.
This man Usmay)," said Lowe.
Twas greatly excited. He was hollow
ling. Lower away. lower away lower
away and ! swore at him to order
him back
Lowe said Ismay went back and
lmade no reply to him. Lowe also
testified he never would have known
the man was lsmay II he D.owe) had
| not met steward of the Carpathia
who told him what he had done and
iasked him why he 'swore at IsmaN'
! Lowe said he had fired three shots
into the water to scare away immi-
grants on one of the decks who he
! feared were about to swamp loaded
boat by Jumping. lie was certain the
shots struck no one. Lowe was then
| temporarily excused,
I.ightholdcr Tc~tifies.
C. II. Lightholder. second officer
then took the stand
senator Burton asked the witness To
relate his conversation with lsmay on
the Carpathia. Ilghtholder said he
land his brother Officers talked over
the sailing of the Cedric and had
agreed II would have been Jolly
good idea" if they could catch the ves-
sci. II would result in keeping the men
together and let every one get home.
mir. lsmay, when the weather
thickened, remarked TO me. said
l.ightholder, that it was hardly pos
sible we could catch the boat lie
asked me if thought II desirable that
he send a wireless to hold the Cedf'c
and | said most certainly The teie-
gram was sent"
I.ightholder said that when the
telegram came from New York say'ng
the Cedric would not be held, he
urged Mr. Ismay to insist upon the
Cedric being held.
II was told on the Carpathia that
Chief Officer Wild, who was working
at the forward collapsible boat told
Mr.. Ismay there were no more women
to go. Ismay still stood back and Wild,
who was big, powerful man. bun-
died him into the collapsible boat
who told you this powerful officer,
Mr.. Wild, ordered Mr.. lsmay into the
boat
II don't know"
Senator Smith said that in previous
testimony the witness had declared ne
had not spoken to Mr.. Ismay. This
Lighthouse denied.
Senator Smith asked Lightholder
why, when he testified In New York.
he did not tell about the sending of
the telegram from the Carpathia,
urging that the Cedric be held.
II did not say anything about II then
because there had been nothing said
:. s.bout the telcgrars IT that time" said
Lightholder.
How do YOU know II was Sent -
"Because Mr.. Ismay shovel II To
me, said II was sent and showti me
the answer Lightholder replied.
"Do you know whether any other
kilograms were sent?"
"Yes, after Mr.. f'ranklin's reply !
second message was H"nt
asking that the Cedric be held
did YOU know then the senate was
going to hold an investigation ??
Most certainly not, or the telegram |
idea was to keep witnesses together |
for In case of such an investigation |
we knew would be held in England.
Senator Fletcher wanted to know |
had the Titanic been going slower
L her danger would have been less.
I.ightholder said she would have been
slower on her helm and had more /
ime in which to turn. He said the
hip was travelling the usual west
,cund track.
dc you know If all the passengers
we're aroused and told the ship was
mixing" continued the senator.
Not that can state accurately,
,ut from my knowledge of the condi-
we're aroused,
Lighthoider said that :. Hcmmings.
lampman, who was waiting to testi-
\ before the committee. walked the
eneth of the ship just before she
ank and had seen only two women.
How do you account for the 800
,eopIe who could not be found Where
fere they when the boat left 30
THAT | cannot fathom: I did not go
IT."
Lightholder said that a vessel of
me one of the officers said Wen get !
at the boats" and I was put Ia charge
I number six and ordered 10 put
way toward "A distant light. had ,
nirty-cight women, one sea man, my ,
IF, an Italian lad and the major. /
told them We would have to pull !
way from the ship as she was going
Hl,....A lass1
row and | even asked the women
~ started for the light which We cX-
cted was on a cod banker"
Major Peuchen said yesterday that ;. :
hen you Were asked to 20 back after T.
,me who were drowning you replied Z.
ie Titanic's tonnage going ~ a rate \
q knots an hour. could he q
opped in q minute. or distance of y
quarter Of mile. Air. Smith asked y
Lighthoider had seen the lights OF -
10 mysterious vessel ahead. u
Il saw the light he answered. III
as two points of the stgrbosrd il
wv la
Did you know what the lights Z
ere" a.
No"
Looking out for Ice. Al
Robert Hichens. qusrtermaster IN Z"
arge OF the life boat which took 60
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