Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-18

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/ Some Hawaiians.
1 What is the trouble do you think!
Is the trouble with the men them.
selves or with the officers of the
boat? s.~.- -s-..-.. ....
Sometimes the trouble is with the
men. think. The officers don't con
troll them or make them behave right
Sometimes the officers don't see them
and sometimes they do. They ship
! cattle and pigs-everything together
They ship pigs and cattle together?
Yes.
Have you ever complained about
these things to the Company?
Sure, sometimes did complain but
what's poor man going to do2
Who did you talk to? -
To the Office.
To the general Office here in Homo
lulu?
Yes.
Whom did you see?
|, / saw Mr.. Mclean
Ashford: Mr.. Mclean is Vice-Pres-
ident of the Company
Fisher: What did he say?
Gouvea. Well went to see him
about horse that got killed coming
here Well they paid me for the
horse had q crate Of chickens come
down and they weer dead / went to
see him and he told mes to come
around again; but 1t didn't amount to
much so didn't care to go again.
Fisher: Not big enough loss.
But you did get paid once for a
horse?
Gouvea: Yes, the horse struck its
head on the boat when it was being
loaded onto the boat, and it was killed.
Fisher: They didn't load him care
fully? What did they pay you for the
horse?
Gouvea: They paid me just what
paid for him.
Fisher: Now are those two times
the time you went to see about the
horse and the time you went to see
about the chickens the only times
you ever went to see the officers? S
Gouvea: Yes.
Fisher: Have you. complained at
the ranch?
Gouyea: What is the use to make
complaints, because they put on the
receipts 1.-THE owners risk.
Fisher. Frequently they won't take
your cattle because they say the boat
is loaded
Gouvea: Sure, lots of times.
Have you complained about that?
Sure, lots of times.
What did they say?
They say they win see about it.
They put you of Did they go on
Just the same, rsyas il better?
on, lust the same. 8 ~ ~
Did YOU see the same man az you
did WHEN you went to complain about
the horse and chickens?
No, not the same man.
Who did you see?
/ always asked the Captain Of the
boat: and he says he can't bring
them.
Fisher: Where sdid you ask the
Captain--here or on the island?
Gouvea: Here.
Fisher: The trouble you have Is.
when you have only two or three
head? Where do you go to find out
whether they win take them or not?
Gouyea: generally ask the Cap
tain.
Fisher: Where, here in Honolulu?
Govea:. Sometimes here in Homo
lulu; and sometimes on the Islands.
Fisher: When the boat leaves Ho-
nolulu to 60 out to Hawaii, what does
he say then?
Gouyea: Says he has load and
cant bring them.
Fisher: Before the boat leaves Ho-
nolulu at all ne has arrangements for
q load on the island?
Gonvea: Yes.
Fisher: You say this happens
pretty frequently
Gouyea: Yes, sir.
Olson: What Captains have you
asked?
Gouyea: Well, Captain Thompson.
Olson: Any others?
Gouvea: Capt Simerson, who
used to be Captain of the Mauna Loa.
Olson: Any others?
Gouyea: No others.
Fisher: That is all, Mr.. Gouvea,
thank you.
Fisher: Mr.. Ashford, have. you
anything you would like to say?
Ashford Points Delay.
Ashford: At this point, Mr.. Sec
Rotary, would like to hand you al
memorandum concerning an applica-
ton of 80 residents of Kohala made
on February "a, 1911. and asknowl-
edged on February rs, 1911, for open
ing up lands in that district. There
has been nothing done since. / will
not take this matter up further att
this time, In order that the Land
Commissioner. as others on the Gov
errors side may have time to look
the matter up and explain it, If they
care to.
Mr.. Hemenway: I'll make mem
orandum of 1t.
Fisher: Anything else, Mr.. Ash.
ford?
Ashford: No, Mr.. Secretary. Mr..
]. B. Lightfoot would like to have
examined, but we will not delay mat
tiers. If there Is time this morning II
would like to have it done.
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