The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-08-24

think either there or II is Just barely possi-
hlc II was by check. hut MS ! say, 40 no'
nrd "A copy of the letter. But th"SsuSpicious
nature of tho signature which purports io
hc attached TO the letter as published rem
drrs il Omen TO grave suspicion in my mlnd'
MIR krchbold said this $4,000 was MADE 10
Pcnrose early in OctoScr.
o Was any one present when YOU made
this payment beside yourself and Mr rem
rose? 4 Not that ! recall. II is barely
poss ible that Mr. Rogers may have been
present We had talks during the campaign
with senator Pcnrose as we'll as with Mr
Bliss and others and it is possible that MT.
Rogers may have been present. but do not
remember. Mr.. Rogers and ! worked a
GOOD deal together, MIR. Rogers having a
good deal Of responsibility in such matters
| in those DAYS
JurisLiction Of \rchbo'd.
81 take il = said Senator Clapp, that
YOU were the man of the Standard oli
who had charge of any matter "i this
| kind. we're you not: -,...-
said Archbold Il had known part icu-
! larly about our business apd its re,at ion
ships in Pennsylvania and terhapS III
| Ohio. in both Of which States had llved
and had acquaintanceship eNtehurlG
| over practically all my me
Senator Clapp wanted to know what
conyersation Mr. Archbold had had with
Mr.. Bliss in regard TO the s25 "W pald to
Penrose.
Il think Mr.. Bliss was agreeable. said
Archbold. that a part of TN" total con-
| tribution should go TO senator iehrpse
| to be used by him with reference I" th',
needs in Pennsylvania for the h"'ioi
campaign"
| i 4,
was involved in the discussion ",th Mr
Bliss OF the slVO.ooo: \. Oh. y,N >ir II
| was known and talked about with MI
Bliss and Senator Penrose
! o Subsequent TO the payment ~ lh'
sloO 900 to MIR. Bliss and the s.',"o l" VT
Penrose did you have any conference
with any member OF the National Committee
| or any one in their behalf with reference
to further contributions: \. did
Q With whom: 4. With Mr. Bliss
conference In October.
o When was that, as nearly as you car
r.collect? \. Well. should say it wa
early in October | should say not late
than the 10th, perhaps. OF october.
q And what was the result OF that con
ference. or was there more than one
A Well there were one or two. or per
lhans two or three conferences, all told
regarding Il,
q Who was presen, At those conferences
A Possibly MIR Rogers may have beei
mt one. but my recollection Is that MT
Rogers was not we'll at the time.
o DO YOU recal, any one who was presen
AT any conversation between you ana MT
Bliss except Mr. Rogers: 4. do not.
q Whnt was ,he,rrsult of the subsequen
conference with Mr. Bliss \ The result
was that we declined To make the furthe
contribution requested
The witness testified that he held M
conference with George Il. Cortelyou.
What conference. if any. did you nave.
asked Senator Clapp. with any one wn'
WIS member of the National 'omnitte'
or apueared to be act in z for the committee
Or in the interest OF the campaign;
Talked with senators.
"I may have had and probably did have
personal talks with different gent lemen
POSSIBLY with Senator Dick, possibly wit
senator Scott of West Virginia. but onl
with reference to the progress OF tn
campaign, in which of course we wer
all much Interested.
you do not know Of any conference,
asked Senator Clapp. that you had W.T.
anv one with reference to United state
! Steel making any contributions 10 IN
campaign"
Archbold
O. Had you any interest that year in th
organization or association known as IN
sugar trust? A. No. sir.
O. Or the tobacco trust' 4. None
q. Or tho harvester trust? A, None.
/ O. Did you have any conference Wit
any one during that summer and fali tht
, YOU even understood to be associate
trta refRTPnC
TO contributions to the campaign? A.
not recall any conference.
; o. Then your conferences and acts Wit
reference to contributions TO the Repnblica
national campaign fund OF 1904 we're lin
tied to what you did as member an
directing officer OF tho Standard Oil?
= They we're,
; Talked Only With Bliss.
O During the summer and fall OF 100
; aside from your conference with Mr., Bliss
did you have any conference with an
one with reference to contributions to tn
Republican campaign OF 1904 that yo
understood or knew represented Col, Roose
welt? A. Well. except with Mr. Bliss?
O. That is what | say-aside from you
! conference with Mr., Bliss? A. With nobod
else except Mr.. Bliss representing Presiden
Roosevelt
In describing his conversation wit
= Mr.. Bliss, Mr. Archbold said:
Il talked very frankly with Mr.. Bills
l about the matter. ] said to him whe
! it came to the question if we had decide
. To make the $iOO,0 contribution No,
. Mr., Bliss we want to make this contri
D button. Our sympathies are with tn
Republican side and We want to help
but we do not want to do il without il /
being known and thoroughly approve
. Of by the powers that be and by tn
!, powers that be ] meant. Of course, Co
y Roosevelt MIR. Roosevelt and his i'm
y mediate supporters"
"Will YOU speak a little louder" in
l. terruptsd senator Penrosp. who was a
I attentive listener, and Archbold con
tinued:
Il said TO Mr.. Bliss: We do not war
to make this contribution unless il
I thoroughly acceptable and will b