The evening world., 1912-09-20

ring to men turned down by Cropsey
and appointed by waldo.
The Mayor IL right" said the Wit
ness. II Investigated them through the
Civll Service Commission"
O. How did the Mayor get an ldea sou
Investigate every case? A. ! am not N
position 10 say how the Mayor gets
ideas.
Lieut.. stanton in charge Of The police
investigating bureau under Commits
sioner Cropsey, replaced MIR. Waldo on
the stand, The bureau, lie said, was
started In May. 1909. becsusc OF the ar
rect OF a policeman IN Brooklyn on the
charge Of burglary. for which he got
seven years. At the trial. II was shown
the policeman formerly had been con-
| victed OF crime.
About twelve per cnet. OF the appli-
Giants were murderers. perjarers. thieves
and crooks" stanton testified.
His department was abolished by Com
missioner waldo In June. 1911.
q. what did Mr.. Waldo say? A. When
he took Office he ordered me to get
him papers on all applicants who had
boen rejected by Commissioner Cropsey.
I did so.
HIS evgs TOLD HIM ACES WE'VE
DECLARED wRoNo.
O. How did you md out that the
birth certificates were Sogus7 A. !
looked the men owed anr could see their
gee were WRONG. I asked whore they
got these certificates. They would say
they got them from the town whore
they were born. Then would get true
copies OF their certificates. II was
! nothing to md men who had lied about
their ages from three 10 nine years i
heard rurnors that a man In Houston
street furnished bogus birth certificates.
In many cases the Civil Service Board
certified men with false certificates two
OF three times.
@. Did your investigators ever tnrn
In false reports7 A. Oh. yes; but when
we pinned 'em down they generally
owned up.
Further questioning ELECTED that STAN
ton had made q report to Commissioner
Cropsey on each OF the rejected mon.
About u per cent. Of all applicants
were rejected after his bureau had in
vestigated. These would often reap
pear at the head OF the next list GER
titled.
Alderman Bowling called for the
record In the case OF Patrick Doyle. ac-
,used OF turning In d false certificate
~ birth. The Alderman pointed out to
Stanton that both certificates came
from ireland.
How do you know which Is a
forged certificate?" asked bowling.
looked through them toward the light
Returning to his seat he said:
There is no question in my mind,
that this"-denotins q certificate show
ing birth In ISS0-"is true certihcat 70
and this'--denotinE birth In l%'-ls q
forgery
How do you know. you laugh al
everything" said Bowling.
"You don't expect me to weep. say
80 to the best of my knowledge and oe'
lief and from my experience.
Stanton disooursed on Irish birth GER
tincates and then said he never saw
"A "phony" one from the man regis
try ONCE at Dublin. Pinned down. h
could not swear that the ccrthsate IN
Indicated was not genuine. Sthl. Il
other Aldermen. Stanton serted tina
his Judgment on questions OF evidence
land fact was hnal. lie never made rec
concentrations TO the Commissioner-
simply submitted facts he ascertained.
bowling took up the cudgels again.
what I want TO know II this:
there some one In Ireland VINO Is senhn
these fake certificates and putting fak
royal seals on them?" he asked.
How do I know" answered Stanton
you get the Commissioner to sen
these two certificates back to the maj
| ONCE in Ireland and get them TO to-
you which Ia 'phony.' Then you sen
, for me and tell me what you md on
you'll md I'm right"
Aldermen Downing ana smith ~
into a wordy row during which Down
ing said Smith had "misconstrued' hi
|
sonal when the stout policeman RAISE
his hands In bcnedlctlon.
Look here. gents" he said. "wh
can't you get aionE peAceinlv
! The laugh that followed ended IN
Aldermanlc now OF language
lieut.. stanton was Withdrawn iron
I the stand to Identify all the paper
In the case OF men he had investigated
and while he was doing so Commits
sIoner Waldo was recalled:
In answer to questions waldo said n
: hsd recrived complaints about his polio
surveons ana had turned them over
the Commissioner Of Accounts for ir
= vestiRaton.
"Did YOU appoint Or. Philip o'Hanlo
8 a police surseonf" asked Buckner
9 "Dr. OHanlon was transferred to tn
l Police Department from the Board
The witness admitted that ne had q,
pointed OHanion over the head OF n
first man on the civil service list. HI
explained that II was not an appoin
!, ment but q transfer
q. You are compelled to take 20,
n detectives from the uniformed force7 !
!. Yes.
q. DO you think you should be 9
y lowed 10 pick outside men for the d
J. tective force? A. No. Out of 1880 me
i We can md men good enough.
y q. His Honor the Mayor In q speee
once said we ought to be able to n
n "singed oats" and hunchbacks. and
a man had eyes In the back OF h
head ne ought to be q detective. I
. you agree with him? A. think Y
j. can get good mon IN the department.
on the question Of promotions, NJ
= Waldo maintained that II was best
promote In order. Only In that way
he said. can you avoid charges
u graft, favorittsn,, corruption and pc
. tics In the promoting by order the
co,fid he only one place where the
= could be wrongdoing. and that II In q
~ Municipal Civil Service Commission. al
no ono ever has breathed a word
~ scandal against that commission"
" II have heard" continued Mr.. Buc
,, ner. that some policemen compla
q that because some men are iucl
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