The Washington times., 1912-10-17
CORTELyOU SAYS
THE TRUSTS WERE
NOT HELD Up
Replies to Insinuations Be
fore the Clapp Inquiry
Committee.
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sonal friends" he said. "and I do not
enjoy coming here to testify about
there matters"
pleasure to summon you, assure you."
replied Senator Ciapp.
Ne Roosevelt people were first or
ganfzed In Michigan, Mr.. Murfin said.
and after some delays Mr.. Mckay was
had about 20 Of the 1,coO delegates to
the state convention, and was the scene
Of the real fight for Michigan.
Mr. Murfin said he was assured by
ever before had been used in a cam
paign there"
Insisted On 5000.
Mr.. Warren asked me-" said Murfin,
how much the fight ought to cost. 1
said not over 800 could be used hon
estly. He said Mckay insisted on hav-
ing 5000 20 start on. / said II would
be q rotten fight, then. and 1t certainly
was; the worst we ever knew.
Mr.. Murfinsaid Mr.. Warren had sworn
There was Just nothing in 1t but
money" he, said. i've heard OF money
being used In politics. but nothing. like
that before. It was equally bad on
both sides; 1t merely happened that our
You think Mckay would tell US all
about how he spent this money!" asked
Senator Pomerene.
II don't suppose he kept book, on T.
tered FOR these people like sheep. 4
man running for. delegate was ap.
preached with Here. you run as Taft
man and therell be so much In It for
YOU or, Run as a Roosevelt man and
you'll get so much Some OF 'em took
money from both Sides"
While he was being pressed for de-
tails. Mr. Murfin broke in with:
"Oh, when ! get back to Michigan. I'll
tell the man that got me into this muss
just what think Of him. He's another
personal friend. too
The Roosevelt fight In Detroit, he
said, was in charge, OF Charles A.
Nichols. city clerk. Murfin had no idea
how much Nichols used.
Judge Murfin was asked his opinion
whether the things done were violativc
of any law Of Michigan. He doubted II
the. State had any law that had been
violated.
Cortelyou on Stand.
Former Secretary Of the Treasury
Cortelyou was called to talk about the
alleged Archbold contribution of 500. .0U
in 1904.
81 know very little about II except
what has been In the testimony" he
said. when here before | was asked
II / knew Of such a contribution. and
j said did not. The whole AFFAIR was
1li st brought to my attention by letter,
of October 26 and q and telegram OF
October 20 from President Roosevelt
This telegram was repeated to me ir
Chicago. for which place I had started
before II reached New York. When
asked Mr.. Bliss about II and conveyed
the Presidents direction to him, he re
piled that we had received no contribu
tion from the Standard OIL Company
] conveyed this statement Of Mr. Bis,
to President Roosevelt. In response Il
the Presidents first letter. As to tn,
second Letter from him. I recall yer,
Chicago. The first letter had been an
swered. and I had the impression tina
Mr.. Bliss would also communicate hi
assurance to the President about tn,
matter.
Il recall vaguely that the name O
ii. ii. Rogers was mentioned during tn,
campaign; not at all that that OF Arch
bold was. remember in a genera
Sway that I did tell the President abou
what Mr.. Bliss had said to me; prob
ably on some hurried business trip t,
the White House. but after eight year,
1t 10 difficult to specify details.
Il know that several times Mr.. Blis
wanted me to see individuals and I al
ways said they could see me at my Of
flee and that l need not go outside be
cause he can as well as I.
recollect no arrangement at any TIM
for me to meet any of the Standard oi
people"
Mr.. Cortelyou said he was In the Of