The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1912-04-25
would result In Keeping the mon ta.

o ieeuA. III keeping the mon to-
setner ana let everyone got home.
Mr. Ismay. when tho weather thick.
ened, remarked to me-" said LiEhtolIer.
that 1t was hardly possible that wa
could catch tho boat. He asked mo
II thought 1t desirable that he send
wireless to hold the Cedric. and
saio Most certainly Tho TELEGRAM
was sent We were all agreed thar
1t was the best course, ana we an
advised it," i'
LiKhtolier declared that when thu
teieSram came from New York suyinr
the cedric would not be held, he urged
ar. 1smay TO insist upon the Cedric
being held.
i Will say that Mt that tina NJ
lsmay was in no mental condition to
transact business" said JightoIlor
lie seemed TO DO POSSESSED witb rho
luea that he ought to have gone down
with the ship because there wer. wo-
men who went down. 1 tried NV baYt
TO get that idea out of his head but
could not. The doctor on tho car
pathia had trouble with Mr.. Is,n,y
on the same ground. and | am sure
that doctor Will verify my statements
was told on the Carpathia that
Chief officer Wind. who was working
at tho forward collapsible bont. told
ar Isinay there were no 49, women
10 go. 1smay still stood hack. and
wild, who was big, powerful man
bundled f'm Into the collapsibie boat"
VINO told you this powerful officer.
Dir. wild, ordered Mr.. Ismay into the
boat?" '-e
Il don't know"
senator Smith said that In preyiou.
testimony the witness had declared he
mad not spoken to Mr.. Ismay This
Lightoller denied
Senator Smith then endeayored 10
discover how long II took to get out
the lifeboats. and kept after tho wiz
ness, who became impatient und ST tho
gruelinB.
I'VE did all We could" no replted
explosively. Il consider The men acted
well and quickly. The circumstanoos
ought 10 be taken into consideration.
we were not at boat drills; we were
saving human NE"
Senator Smith asked Lightoller WHY.
when ne testified in New York. he did
not tell about the sending of tho tele
gram from the Carpath!a urging ina,
the Cedric be held.
i did not say anything about II
then because there had been nothing
said about the telegram at the ti1nc.
said Lightoller After that there wan
considerable discussion about IL in tho
papers considered myself largely
responsible for tho sending OF that tel
egram / urged It,"
How do you know Il war ..n,,.
Saw the Telegram.
because Mr.. lsmaY showed Il to mo,
said II was sent and showed mo tho
answer" Lghtolier replied
Senator Smith sought to establish
tho day on which the witness had con
terred with 1smay concerning the &C.
dr'c telegram. L!ghtolier said n.
thought II was Wednesday,
DO you know whether any other
kilograms were sent?"
Yes. after Mr.. Frankiins replv
understand a s.cond was sent. urging
that the Cedric be held"
Did you know then that the Son
ate was going to hold an invest,Ka-
,ion7"
"Mosi certainly not. or the t.l.-
gram would never have been sent,
Our sole idea Was 10 keep witnesses
together for just such an investtro
uon, which we knew would be made
In England"
Lishtoller said II was an open
question as 10 whether the explosions
heard when the Titanic sank were
heads.
Senator Fletcher wanted to know n
the Titanic had been going slower II
her danger would have been less
I Lishtoller said he would have been
slower on her helm and had more
1 time In which to turn. He said the
snip was travelling the usual west
bound track
10 you know II all tho passengers
were aroused and told the ship was
SINKING cont nued the Senator
NOR mat / can state accurately
bu, from my knowledge OF the pursers
and tho conditions at tho time / am
sure that all wero aroused few
minutes before the ship sunk Purser
McEiroy. and Assistants Barker and
simpson came to me and shook hands
Good by. old man they said, and 7
answered. Good by"
Did any OF them survivor"
NO all were lost"
Lightoller said that & Hemr,inrs
a lampman who was waiting to testi-
~ before tho committee. walked tho
length OF the ship Just before she
sank and had seen only two women.
How do YOU account for the 1900
people who could not be found7 Where
were they when the boats lett?"
That cannot fathom; perhaps Hem
mlngs can enlightcn you. ] didn't go
aft
Could anything have possibly been
done after tho crash to prevent the
sinking Of the ship?"
Absolutely nothing" replied Ligh-
toller
was thera any pan!c?
"Not the slightest"
Lightoller said a vessel of no I'll
tanic's tonnage going at rate of
twenty-ona knots an hour could be
stopped in a minute and IA half or
distance OF quarter OF n mile.
Senator Smith asked II Lig5tYller
had seen the lights OF the my4terious
vessel ahead.
81 saw the light" he answered.: az
was two points off tho starboard bow"
"D!d YOU know what the lights
werc?"
NO"
Wrs mt the Wheel
Robert Hichens. quartermastcr IN
charge OF the iifehoat which took on