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deck except two who we're standing amid
ships on the bridge,
"They We're doing nothing and making
no effort To get to any boat.

deck except two who we're standing amid
ships on the bridge.
aThey were doing nothing and making
no effort 10 get to any boat
wanted to catch cedric.
The committee thcn brought up the
matter II tc.carams sent by MIR 1smay
from th" tarpathia regarding the pro-
posed detention of the Cedric. Mr. Light
nlier said h" was cognizant Of that matter.
"On tn" Carrathia." he said. -other
officers and agreed il would he jolly
good idea If we could all catch the Cedric.
". agreed it would be best to keep the
mon together. Wa thought that IL they
we're allowed to hang around New York
they might ship somewhere else. inasmuch
as their Jobs ceased with the sinking of
the Titanic. In other cases like this
IN. seamen have been offered berths as
servants and the like by saloon passen-
gers Many of them often go on private
yachts.
4 ,alAed with Mr.. Ismay and told him
II would be best that We catch the Cedric.
When the fog caused a delay. making it
doubtful if We could catch the Cedric.
! told him the best thing TO do would be
10 hold up IN. Cedric. When the reply
came. az | understand from Mr.. Franklin.
] said ne ought To insist on holding the
Cedric.
And I want to say here, gentlemen.
that Mr.. lsmay. while on the Carpathia.
did not secin in any mental condition to
decide anything. tried TO arouse Mr..
lsmay and got him in Il proper frame of
mind He kept repeating and seemed
obsessed with the idea that he ought TO
have gone down with the ship. because
women had gon" down
Ismay HAD Obsession.
Il had difficulty getting this obsession
out OF his head. ard so did the doctor.
You can call the doctor to verify this
Later senator smith reverted 10 this
0ubiec,
You made a statement Mr. Lightoller
about Mr. lsriav. voluntary, statement:
not tell of this in New York" he asked.
-Becau-e the question of the telcgrams
about tn. Cedric was not raised then
retorted Lightoler Since then. all this
paper talk has come up. with criticism.
and ! feel myself principally responsible
for those tsSa grams being sent. | urged
Mr. lslnay to send them
The matter was allowed to drop here
Senator Smith also asked Mr.. Lightoller
about l-may's departure from the ship.
Lightoller said that on the Carpathia he
was told that Mr.. Wild one of the officers,
. big. powerful man. ordered Mr.. Ismay
into boat after telling him there were no
more " omen on the ship. and that then.
Mr. lsmay demu-rinc. Wild bundled him
into the boat. There ensued a heated
Lightoler regarding whether Mr.. Light
oler said Good evening to Mr.. lsmay
or rot. which vas marked by sharp and
sarcastic statements on both sides
Lixh,oiier show. Spirit.
Lightoller showed considerable spirit
a few minutes later. when. after Senator
Smith tried 10 get him to state exactly
how long II took 10 prepare the lifeboats
for lowering he protested vigorously
against beng pinned down TO minutes.
Those seainen We're as smart as any
body else" he said. and the work went
along as smoothly and as quickly as il
could have under tn. circumstances.
The friction continued. and during
Mr. Lightolier's account of how Major
peuchon was ordered by him into one OF
the liieboats after il had been partly
lowered Mr.. Lightoller remarked that
he already had answered it in his previous
testimony.
4 know replied Senator Smith But
", forgotten what you said"
Well. 80 have ] forgotten retorted
Lghtoiler
senator Smith then asked the witness
what he thought would be the maximum
carGcl'v of he lifeboats before lowering,
the Ilehoats being understood TO have
. capacity of siNty-five. Lightoller said
thet with brand new ship, with new
ho>'s and new gear he thought boat
might be safely lowered II II contained
about twenty or twenty-five persons.
Worked Out Position.
Senator Smith then took up the matter
Of whether the Titanic had been warned
Of IN. proximity o! ice.
stripped of the redium Of question and
answer. 1lghtol!sr's statement amount ed
70 this That 4 wireless message had been
shown 10 him 10y Capt. Smith about noon
on Sunday winch gave the approximate
latitude and longitude of some ice He
r. -arded tniS a. information. he said.
and also d ii warning TO the extent that
ne worked out the time at which the
titanic probably would be nearest this
Ice. lie found the ship would be near
th. po-it!on Of tho ice about II O'Clock
that night. He told officer Murdock Of
this twice fir-t unofficlally in his quarters
and then ~ 10 o clock that night on the
bridge. when Murdocn reliev ed him.
Light oller also said that when he went
on the bridge he gave directions TO Mr.
Moody. the sixth ottlcer. To direct the
lookout men to keep a sharp watch for
small IL" until daybreak and pass thu
word long
Under conditions that prevailed that
night" asked the Senator. when you
Rad been notified that ice was 10 be ex-
n.ct.d. would you consider IL a reason
Ar'o preCaut ion to lessen the .peeds"
That would depend That would rest
with the Judgment Of the commander
Win lower speed, asked the senator,
would not the chances of avoiding the
ice have been increased"
Can't say The snip would have been
slower On her helm She would have
had more time in which to turn. but with
lessensd speed would have turned more
slowly
DO Not Change Route for Ice.
Did you ever know Of ship changing
her route because Of ices asked Senator
Smith.
No sir These routes were laid out
bv men of the United States Navy and We
adhere to them We nave what We call
an co route which We take sometimes
when the ~. i very thick. but this extreme
southern track is taken only upon orders
from the company
Mr. Llghtoller," asked Senator Smith,
were the passengers notified that the
ship was sinking
i have no absolute knowledge 70 that
effect, =, replied the witness. but feel
eIre II was done. because saw the pursers,
their -four assistants and wo of the doctors
on the bridge shortly before the ship sank,
ana they apparently had finished all their
work, and their duty included aroising