Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-09

authorizes me to say this at the be-
ginning: that when he found himself
here on Saturday unrepresented by
his counsel, and with the Governor
represented by very astute and able
counsel, he felt that ii would be better
for him to reserve the expression OF
his opinions or views until his counsel
was present He has now delegated
me to make such statements as he
feels called upon by your suggestions
and requests. s.
Embarrassed by Counsel.
The Delegate authorizes me to say
that he felt especially embarrassed on
Saturday in view of the array ability
and professional relations of the coun-
sci by whom we are opposed, 1T being
remembered that there are two gen.
eral points in his complaint, namely,
the administration of the land laws,
and, second, the transportation ex-
cesses and abuses which have pre-
vailed in these Islands for so long;
and when he found himself opposed
on the one hand by a. member of the
firm of Holmes, Stanley & Olson, rep
resentatives of the planting interests
generally, and particularly of T. H.
Davies e. Co., Ltd, and taking into
consideration the further point that T..
II. Davies & Co., Ltd, are the repre-
sentatives of the Waiakea Mil Com
pany, which is endeayoring to obtain
extended rights in Waiakea;; and TAX
ing further into consideration the fact
that Mr.. Hemenway comes from the
very able firm of Smith, Warren &
Hemenway, who have been in years
past ard now are attorneys for the
Inter-Island s. N. Co., whose actions
form the second basis for our COM
plant, he felt embarrassed to de-
gree where he thought 1t the part of
wisdom not to make statement on
bis own account, but to leave it to his
counsel
find myself, Mr.. Secretary, not
quite as robust physically as thought
/ would be this morning, and II you
are willing viii take q chair where
/ can sit down.
Mr.. Fisher: 1t will be quite salts
factory, Mr.. Ashford, and If at any
time you feel that you have overtaxed
your strength. don't hesitate to say SO.
Ashford: Thank you.
Fisher: We expect to have several
of these hearings, and it would be
better to have you in good condition
than to overdo it at this time.
Conditions Different.
Ashford: The matter of the DISPOSE
ton of the public lands is q matter
which has vexed the people, the execu-
tive, the legislators, boards and others
in this community for many years.
The conditions have been very differ
emit here than they are anywhere else.
The Governor found himself, after the
Of Hawaii, with vastly
increased domain. But with the addi-
ton of the crown lands that domain
was very greatly increased until now,
according to the figures of the Gov
ernor, there are $4,000 acres OF cane
land and some quarter Of q million
Of acres Of public lands generally
available, some of which are otner
than cane lands. some good. some bad
and some indifferent.
Governor ExpIaIns.
Fisher. Now. Just a moment. MI,
Ashford. Governor. are these $4,000
acres of land to which you refer, all
the lands belonging to the public that
are suitable for the cultivation OF cane,
so far as is now known mean irri-
spectiye Of the length of time for
which they are leased? What is the
total amount of land available for cane
raising that belong to the public?
Governor: Additional lands are be-
ing continually opened up. both in
large and small areas; that il the area
Of cane cultivated land is being grad
ualiy increased. $4,000 acres. is all
that has been found profitable to put
into cane; and / think the extension
Of the areas of cultivated land has
proceeded as fast as 1t has been able
TO extend It.
Fisher: Are these lands under long
Iease7
Governor: Yes.
Fisher: These leases are falling due
rom time to time? And does the 3d.