Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1912-11-12
Vote, 228 to 2O6 on
Amendment by unionists.
Action Kills Hope Of Passing
Bill Before Christmas.
Cabinet Will Not Resign, Owing to
The Foreign Situation.

London, Nov 1i.-While the House
of Commons was debating the finan-
cial provisions of the Home Rule bill
in committee, this afternoon, an un-
expected vote on an amendment Of
fered by Sir Frederick Banbury, a
Unionist member for the City of Lon
don. resulted in an Opposition victory
by majority of % The Conservatives
were jubilant and loudly demanded
that the Liberal government resign,
which. according to precedents, Il
should do, If the vote, which was 22s
to 206 Were genuine test of the
strength of the government on the
measure.
The temporary defeat of the gov
eminent caused a great political SEN
sation, but did not result in its re-
trement. The cabinet held a meeting.
tonight, and decided to present a reso-
luton in the House. tomorrow. which
will be practically "a demand, for
vote of confidence, and after some par
liamentary red tape will endeavor to
have Sir Frederick Banbury's amend
ment resubmitted and expunged.
The younger Conservatives prepared
the trap for the Home Rulers and
succeeded in getting a vote when
many members were in the country
and number of those in town were
absent from the House. not expecting
that important business would be
taken up.
There has been much dissatisfaction
among members of all the parties at
the provision of the bill compelling
the other sections of the United King
dom TO contribute to the support of
Ireland without voice in the expen-
diture of the money.
The cabinet council held after the
governments defeat lasted two hours.
at the end of which its decision not
to resign was announced. An official
statement which was issued declares
that the adoption of the amendment
was clearly due to a snap division on
a motion which was not even put on
the order page and which was de-
structive of the resolution passed,
Nov. Z. by majority of l2l.
1.-THE government, therefore, the
statement concludes, docs not con-
slider that its defeat necessitates any
change in its program, which, in re-
spect to home rule. has been support
ed by majorities seldom short of 1907
London Nov. 1.-THE British cabinet
was defeated, today, by a vote of Us
against 206 on an amendment proposed
by the Unionist party tos a financial.
clause of the Home Rule bill while
il was under discussion in committee
of the House of Commons.
The government can do three things.
The cabinet can resign, it can drop the
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ward motion to recommit the bill,
and obtain the opinion of the fun
house on the vote which was taken,
today. after it has given due notice
of its intention to do so.
One of the government whips stated.
this evening. that the cabinet had de-
cided not to resign
The maneuver to defeat the govern
ment in committee on the Home Rule
bill was carefully planned by the
Unionists. They We're only 40 short of
their full strength in the division.
while the other parties, not expecting
that the amendment would come to
the vote, had not urged their members
to attend so early in the day
The government defeat will have
the effect of dislocating the schedule
drFdngeu Will the VIEW VI pdSsht5 eitc
bill before Christmas.
There has been considera BILE opposi-
ton by members on the ministerial
side of the House of Commons to the
financial provisions of the Home Rule
bill. Some 20 Liberal members have
given voice to their objection to the
Irish Parliament being given control
OF the customs as they argue such
control would enable the Irish Par
lament to introduce protection.
The followers of William O Brieu,
only this morning, announced their
intention of withdrawing from the
House during the proceedings of the
committee on the finance clauses OF
the bill
Herbert Samuel, the postmaster
general. in opposing Sir Frederick
Banbury's amendment to the Home
Rule bill. said 1t would mean that the
total sum payable to Ireland would
be limited 10 S12500,0oO year. The
revenue from Irish taxation would be
$47 100000. estimated on the present
basis of Irish revenue and the amend
ment would mean that the sum hand
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