The Washington herald., 1912-12-01
BURNS ON STAND
IN DYNAMITE CASE
Detective Testifes Regarding Con-
versations with Hoekin Regard
ing Plans of McNamaras.
ONE MORE GOVERNMENT
WITNESS TO BE HEARD
Other Witnesses Tell of Alleged
Connection of Defendants with
0utrages Throughout Country.

indianapolis, Nov 3o-with the testi-
mony Of Detective W. J. Burns, the gov
eminent practically completed its case
in the dynamite conspiracy trial this
afternoon. One witness remains to be
heard.
The defense has subpoenaed fifty wit
nesses to appear on Monday. 1t is ex-
pected that they will use about $50 wit
nesses altogether.
The question Of new bonds for the six
teen defendants, whose bonds have been
declared invalid, is still unsettled. Dis
trict Attorney Miller may raise the ques-
ton Monday. The defendants are try
ing to obtain new bonds of satisfac-
tory nature 10 save themselves from go
ing 20 Jail
Following his employment by Mayor
George Alexander. of Los Angeles. Burns
said that he spent from October ., 1910
until late in December on the Coast. He
then returned to Chicago and met Her
bert S. Hockin. at that time a member
of the executive board OF the Iron Work.
ers' Union. the meeting being arranged
ny his son. Raymond J. Burns. HOckin
told Burns that the men he was inform
ing against were preparing to do a lot
of killing and il was this fact that in
duCed him to inform against them.
Burns told Hockin that he was late
with this information: that twenty-one
men had been killed in the Times eN-
pIOsion, and that he CBurnsl had evil
dence as to whom the guilty men were.
Burns also told HoCkin he was afraid
TO have J. J. Mcnamara Swallowed at
that time. for fear il would balk his
search for the men higher up" and
that he did not want J. b. or his brother
to confess.
Tells Burns of Plot.
Hockin then told Burns the details of
a plot against the detectives life which
had come from J. J. Mcnamara. but
which was being engineered by o. \.
Tveltmoe. Burns said he explained
TveitmOe's grievance against him. 1t
dated back to the San Francisco investi-
cation, at which time Burns displayed
photo OF Tveitmoe wearing a prison suit
during his incarceration in Minnesota
penitentiary.
Hockn declared that the executive
board OF the Iron Workers Union knew
nothing of the dynamitings, with the
possible exception of Clancy, who. he
said, was in close touch with Tveitmoe
on the Coast. The board never had APP
propriated money for dynamitng, accord
ing to Hockin.
HoCkin said that J. J. Mcnamara was
the man Burns wanted. He also declared
that he would not take money except
for his expenses.
The detective told of Ortie McMani-
gals confession. his trip to indianapolis,
where ne found dynamite in the base
ment of the union building, and the
finding Of dynamite at the Jones barn.
After United States Attorney Miller
had completed his examination of the
detective and had started TO turn the
witness over to the defense. Burns said:
I want to say. in justice to Mr..
HOckin, that on the two occasions I met
him I offered him money and he refused
TO take it
You merely paid his expenses" asked
the District Attorney.
The witness replied in the affirmative.
Kern Questions Witness.
Senator Kern asked Burns If, in his
original confession, McManigal had i'm
plicated any one except the McNamaras.
Burns answered that Mike YOung's name
had been mentioned.
Did he tell you anything about trans
portation of explosives" asked Senator
Kern.
oh. yes" said Burns. He Implicated
Mr. Hockin in that
Mrs Alta NJ. Hawkins. of this city.
who accidentally shot herself several
days ago, was brought into Federal
Court on cot to testify against Ernest |
q. W. Basey. former business agent of
the indianapolis local. She said he told |
her that something was going to hap |
PEN" and later she heard the Indianap- |
oils explosions.
Raymond J. Burns told Of a confer !
ence with Hockin in Chicago in Feb !
ruary, 1911. HOckin told him, when he |
asked about NJ. A. Schmidt, that Olaf
NJ. TveitmOe had been furnishing money |
TO Schmidt through Ed Nockells, secre-
tary of the Chicago Federation of Labor. |
Tveitmoe also was taking care of David |
Captain, HOckin. said.