New-York tribune., 1912-03-16
Police Stenographer Tells How
They Discussed $4,000
HoId-Up in Cells.
WANTED TO SHOOT MONTANA |
Kirsman Refused to Carry Out
Plan of Wounding Driver
Session of Court To Be Held
To-day to End Trial.

and robbed or S2jOD on feprudIS 4o 'iid
who is on trial before Justice Seabury IN
the Criminal Branch of the Supreme Court
will 90 to the jury to-day. IL is most un-
usual TO hold a session of The court on sat
urday, but Charles c. Mott. jr., Assistant
District Attorney, rested his case yester-
day, and George F. Roesch, counsel for
Montani, said he would call only two or
three witnesses besides Montani, so Justice
Seabury decided to finish up the case this
week
John ]. OCOnnell, a stenographer at
tached 10 the detective bureau. took the
stand yesterday and testified as TO con-
versation among Montani. "Scotty'' Lamo
and Edward Kinsman. known as Eddie
the Boob" all of whom were locked in sep
arate cells at Police Headquarters dur
ing the night Of February 2S. OConnel'
was in a cell near them. His notes showed
that although Nontani might have con-
ceived the hold-up and used Jess Albrozzo
merely as recruiting agent nevertheless
Albrozzo and his gang had ideas of their
own on the matter. and one Of them was
10 shoot Montani in the leg to lend veri-
similtude TO the affair.
Another fact learned by O'Connell during
his eavesdropping was that Kinsman Of
cause Montani was married and had two
children. The conversation of the prison.
ers. according 10 O'COnnell, was as fol-
lows
only for that Dutch" said Kinsman.
'I don't think it would be so bad with US.
You see, when he got in the taxicao ne
went out Of his head the way he started
70 use the strap"
Kinsman was referring TO the undue Sc
verify with which Dutch" Keller welded
his blackjack when he got into the taxi
cab.
Jess is a rat" replied Montani, sue
cinctly. In the vernacular OF the under
world a rat is "squealer." and one 10
whom the name is applied seldom escapes
the vengeance of the gang.
Refused to Shoot Montani.
You know" continued Kinsman, that
morning they wanted me to shoot you in
the leg l said Nothing doing When l
got on the machine l didn't know anything
what | was supposed to do until you told
me to put my hand up. ! think If you
could get any witnesses that Jess didn't
know you it will be o X"
Il would rather have good lawyer,
said Montani
Jess will get the heavy end" said Eddie
the Boob" after Montani had said that de-
tectives had tried TO get him TO confess.
IF | had him outside / would put
bullet in nim." said Lamb, the dour Scotch
man.
Don't mako me laugh" said Kinsman.
The only thing, you know. in this game
II you Kill a guy and you have enough
money you can get out. How do you come
off in the lire of money!
I'm rotten with it" said Montani
He said that by that he meant that he
had none, but that good people" were be-
hind him.
IF it was up 10 me-" said Eddie the
Boob. you'd have money. l never dou-
ble-crossed anybody in my life when | had
money | don't see how you figure II at all
when YOU know these guys are throwing
you up. How do you expect TO beat it?'
I'm blessed if ] know" said Montani
Il think il was bum layout anyway"
said Kinsman 10 'Scotty" Cant you and
/ frame up some story against Jess for
Montani?"
"Montani is married, with Z couple of
kids" said the Scotchman. I'm going to
rap one man. and that is Jess"
"Montani" said Eddie the Boob" IF !
can get a couple Of guys that Will come to
the front and have them in court and can
say that l had a gun or something lis
ten. If a couple OF guys came up and said
that they saw me with a gun, wouldn't IL
help you outT'
Il don't know" said Montani
That's the only thing that could" urged
Eddie the Boob Jess told them You
could get some guys to say they saw the
gun. That would help you out"
I'm not any worse off than you are"
said Mon;ani. I'm married, hut I don't
like TO see any man go away"
You know" said Kinsman. they want
ed me to shoot you and expected you TO
lay in the hospital. II I'd done that YOU
wouldn't be here now II would have been
a good stall, too. You would have stood
for that?"
What's the use Of crying over spilled
milk" retorted Montani.
Blood Stained; Passed Policeman.
Kinsman then told Of their experience
In getting away after he had climbed down
rrom his perch beside Montani and
Dutch and splane had come out of the
taxicab where the two passengers lay un-
conscious lie said they had to walk
through crowd and past policeman,
and "Dutch's" face was so covered with
blood that you couldn't put pin on any
part of ~ that wasn't covered"
Did we pass any cOps?' asked Mon
tani.
That's all | could see on every corner"
said 4<insman.
Montani said he expected to have a
bunch OF men" 10 help him out They
were Masons. he said.
That's a good o:dcr to have said
Kinsman My old man belongs to that"
Il wish we had killed all the cops Of
the police force before we did it, re-
marked Kinsman. "1'hey are the worst I
ever want 10 meet. They are smiling when
they are talking to YOU and two minutes
before they leave you they paste you one
in the eye for nothing. Good fellows-say,
they would give you two nickels for a dime
any time"
Kinsman then started singing For it's
always fair weather when good fellows
get together" lie danced Jig as he sang,
Never mind tho singing. kd' said Mon
tani
say" said Kinsman. abandoning the
song, you should have seen the bunch
that got me. l bet there was thirty I
was just making getaway when | was
grabbed. ! bet he's lieutenant now"
What. made . lieutenant for the arrest
OF you?" asked Montan'.
''He must have been made something"
said the blithesOme songster Did they
cross-question your
"Oh. my dear boy!" said Montani.
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