New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-12-14

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ing to keep up with conditions IKE
that. and people are certainly coming
around to the idea that this business
| will go on In spite Of all they can no.
/ and the only thing to do Is TO come
as near to putting ii on the lever py
) segregation and regulation, not py
| cops as can be done"
That same idea that New York CITY
| Is about to recognize and regulate the
social evil by segregation Is abroad IN
the underworld to-day, according 10
| this woman. 1t has been in the minus
Of the people who live by and on vice
! for some time, has been strengthened
, by the reports of the vice commissions
| of various other cities and has nnailE
| been brought to a definite head by the
remarkable outburst of that cooliy VI
cious philosopher of the underworld,
| Mary Goodc. before the Curran COM
| mittee.
The astonishing spread OF the dis
| tricts inhabited by vice under the pres
ent system. by which the police alone
are the arbiters OF the fate of these
women, was outlined yesterday by Mrs.
| Goode. She asserted that the raids
which followed on the heels OF the ex-
posures trailing the Rosenthal murder
drove hundreds Of women from the
upper eos, running from about 10Th %
Goth street, TO Il section Of the upper
West Side lying near Central Park
West and from 9Sth street north.
Beginning with that street Mrs.
Goodc said she could point out TO the
police or any investigator who cared 70
| look into the question number OF dis
orderly fats In each street north as far
as 10th street. These flats, she as
serted, were. also TO be found along
Manhattan avenue from 105th 20 1lOth
street, and even over as far west as
Broadway, in several Of the streets be-
tween 105th and 10th streets.
In several locations, she said, she
knew of entire apartment houses giver
over to disorderly tenants.
Women Strong for Segregation.
Have you investigated these houses
and streets personally" she was
asked.
NO, | don't claim that she re-
turned, but we people have our own
methods Of communication-our own
grapevine IL you choose 10 call it
that. Why, We even know within an
hour OF the quetest kind OF fake raid.
let alone a real raid, anywhere within
that entire section And can't you see,
can't every one see. that the police who
are supposed to and actually do keep
close track Of all our doings know Il
the existence OF all Of these places'
Do YOU suppose that they arc allowing
these places TO run except on payment
OF graft? Why. that's too ridiculous
for the public to swallow. surely.
And knowing that. even II they don't
know IL in way that would furnish
legal proof. why don't people realize
that they ought 10 take this matter
entirely out Of police hands by segre-
eating u.s.
Mrs. Goodies views along that line,
aired first in her testimony on Wednes-
day and amplifled I'm her interview on
Thursday, constitute her hobby" She
not only believes in the idea thorough
~. but she also very evidently believes
that something akin to regulated, rec
ognized segregation will be the outcome
Of her plunge into publicity.
Emory r. Buckner. counsel To the
Curran committee. said yesterday that
the committee. at its next session on
wednesday morning, would I'm all prob
ability concern itself only with police
department records on activities in
connection with the vice problem. lie
did not believe that any other disor-
derby housckeepers would come for
ward as Mrs. Goode did TO tell the un-
derworld side OF the vice story. but he
admitted that IL Mrs. Goode persuaded
any corroberatinS witness to appear
the committee would hear the story.
| Raymond b. Fosdick, former Com
missioner OF Accounts, who has been
! lending his aid to the Investigations or
| the Curran committee, said yesterday
| that he believed the public was more
| vitality interested in the machinery OF
It's Police Department than in the
/ startling revelations Of women like
| Mrs. Goode.
THE real things that Mr.. Buckner
] IL trying TO get at are concerned more
with the why Of these conditions than
with the conditions themselves. We
know now, by the stories OF Mrs. Goode
and others who have been in close
touch with the police system. what the
system In effect leads TO: the next
| thing In TO find out why certain men
are put into and left in positions where
they either allow or partake in the ac-
tivities disclosed by these stories OF
graft.
Hope for Vice Committee.
why was Becker selected as head
Of the special detail he commanded?
Who recommended him? Why are
| other men detailed on special details
Of various kinds, and who recommends
them? That Ia what the public wants
IA Lnow and what Mr.. Buckner Is try