The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-08-10
Becker Denies Report, But Whitman Declares
 It Is True
MORE WITNESSES
 TELL OF MURDER
Austrian, Who Saw Shooting of Rosenthal, Describes Scene and Identifies Jack. Sullivan as
 One of the Gunmen

New York. August 9-Although Pc <, Lieutenant Charles Becker declare O Q day he had nothing to confess in
 tion with the Rosenthal murder <osS n he is the accused instigator, D, " At torney Whitman learned that go ,oner was ready to make some d SS es un- der certain conditions Sg nditions | imposed. however. are m Q he dis- trict attorney is willing e to grant and he is waiting for Be.ier to make other overtures
 | Strong influences are being exerted, the prosecutor has learned to keep Becker from saying anything to strengthen the evidence regarding alleged gambling graft on the part of other high police officials whose indictment MT. Whitman seeks. Beokers emphatic statement today was, q am not gong to confess for l have nothing to confess" The district attor- ney, however, says he Is steadily picking up evidence against the police lieutenant which he thinks will alter this attitude. MT. Whitman also learned today that Jack Sullivan who has been involved in the murder plot by several witnesses Was Itduy. tC mdhe eonleSsioH that would corroborate the stories told by Bald Jack Rose, "Brldgie9 Webber and Harry Vallon, who have obtained a promise of fepiency for turning state $ evidence.
 1t became known also today that Gio- vanni Stanich, one of the 1b witnesses who appeared before the grand jury yes- terday. as an eye witness to the mur- der had identified the four men accused of the actual shooting of Rosenthal and also had identified Jack Sullivan as hay ing been on the scene and having left with the murderers in the gray automo- bile.
 Attorney Testifies In addition to this the district attor- ney has learned from Richard G. Barter. a notary public, that on the day after the murder Becker took his attorney, John W. Hart, in a taxicab to the house where Jack Rose, then wanted by the police for the murder, was In conceal ment. This was the house of Harry Pol lock, who, with his wife, was one of the witnesses before the grand jury. Barter told the district attorney that Becker and Hart had come to his place of employment in the taxieab on the nighs of June l5, the day after the murder had taken place, around to Pollock's house.
 
 Becker, who then drove away in the taxicab. Barter said he was then asked to witness an affidavit made by Rose that the $500 loan which Rose has said was made through him by Becker to Herman Rosenthal, was In fact made by Harry Pollock
 This Is the affidavit Rose claims Becker forced him to make as the price of pro- tectng him and was to clear Becker of the charge made by Rosenthal before he was shot that the police lieutenant was partner in the gambling house. Barter said Pollock was not present during the conversation between Hart and Rose as to the affidavit, and 1t was learned that Pollock testified before the grand jury that he never made the loan mentioned in the affidavit.
 The notary public related further that during the conversation he remarked That was a terrible murder, wasn't 1t ?'- That was as far as I got on that line of conversation" Barter told the district attorney. 'I heard Rose ask Hart if he had better ko to the district attorney s office, but I did not hear the lawyer S answer They left me over in one cor ner of the room during most of their con- versation.'
 Austrian on Scene
 Stanch. who Is an Austrian of good DiTli dHu tuutdiioHs ltSliiltu DtIoTt IHe grand jury, 1t was learned, that he stood within few feet of Rosentlal when he fell He saw Jack Sullivan, he said, lean over Rosenthal's body and say Hes dead all right" and then drive away ir the automobile
 Stanch was in the courtroom when Jack Sullivan was arraigned two days after the murder and. 1t Is said, posi- lively identified him. The fact of the f<l ts<x. that time, however. owing to the de- sire of the district attorney to keep the Austrian away from police infiu- ence before he testified before the grand jury His identifications of "Gyp, the blood" Lefty Louie" "Whity@ Lewis and "Dago Frank Cirofiei, were made in the presence of the jury by means of Pollock and with out hesitation.
 Mir. Whitmar's expectation that Jack Sullivan will confess is based upon in- formation received from Rose and Web Der today after they had talked with Sullivan in the west side prison to which he was removed yesterday at Roses sug- gestion it is understood. Sullivan had
 weakened was the message the district attorney received. Mir. Whitman left to- night for Manchester Vt. to be gone until Monday and expects to obtain Sul- tiNdli Stdatiitnl upoif hiS ittuin TUT presentation tc the grand jury on Tues day. On that day MT. Whitman will ask for seven indictments, including. 1t is understood, a reindictment of Becker
 Through information furnished by Rose and Webber the district attorney obtained today what seemed a likely clue as to the whereabouts of Sam Schepps. wanted in connection witr the murder. He sent two detectives out of town on the trail "Gyp the Blood" and Lefty Louie are still missing All three could be found. MT. Whitman declared tonight, If certain members of tine police department were willing to find them.
 Chief of Police Talks
 Lack of confidence in their superiors and absence of discipline are reasons for the denloralization of the New York police department, according to William s. Dew cry, sometimes called the best chief of police New York ever had
 You can't blame the boys much" the former chief said. Some one is pulling themi ione way and some one else is haul ing them in the opposite direction. What's the result? They don't get any where. No one stands behind the men now and they're afraid to make move. If they go out and beat up the tougIis they get the worst of 1t downtown. These gunmen are only the develop ment of the old crooks, the great increase