New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-10-09

he did not even know the names or men
in charge of affairs in many states. The
balance OF the big fund. for which he had
no records, had "dripped out in the du-
ferent state campaigns. he said.
Contributions to state campaigns by the
Taft national headquarters were given as
follows:
West Virginia, 5000; Maryland. SO GOO
to $1,000: Ohio. 10000: Illinois. slo;V"'
Maine, 5000: Texas, 5000: lndlana' slE
00O Iowa 5000; Kansas, 500 ana heh-
lucky, 5000
Mr.. Mckinley admitted freely that the
Taft campaign committee had paid the
expenses of delegates to the Chicago CON
vention. a procedure that both he and Mr..
McHarg said had been 'long-stanoihs
custom
Asked as to how many delegates had
thus been provided for, he said he thought
expenses had been paid wherever oe'e-
gate could not afford to pay his own
way"
do you know anything OF the use -
money at the Chicago convention To
change delegates?" asked CHaii man
Clapp. .,
Nothing would want to swear TO-
said Mr.. Mckinley, smiling i nave hep.
out Of the Ananias CLUB SO iar anu
guess I will remain out"
chairman Clapp asked Mr.. Mckinney
~ he knew OF an alleged "underWr1uhs
NJ the Roosevelt campaign by men VINO
wore said 70 have pledged S2Op'Wo or
e, 900 ooo IN secure Colonel Roosevelt
nomination. NJ
Il think that a silly story just 10 ''
McHarg said" was his answer
The detailed expenses at Wasnihsto"
headquarters, sworn to by MT Mch'"
ley. included:
Printing and mailing literature. s9Vs
900. telegraph. telephone anu oIftSo
$1,000; campaign nu,tonis and and news
serYice' $1,000 speakers expenses, 'rav-
oII,ns and special trains. $4,000; eH-
nenses Washington headauarters' $-l'
600: Chicago headquarters S''VV''
The cost Of President Tafts campaign
tour to Ohio was borne by the campaign
committee, he said.
Mr.. Mckinley said no money was sem
nv the washington headquarters 70 Mas
sachusetts for the primary hght thefe'
McHaro's Work in the South
When Ormsby McHarg told OF takine
IN the work of organizing the hoose'ei'
campaign in the Southern states ne ue
c,ared his dealings had been exclusively
With local attorneys In the, states, VINO
were placed in charge of the local cam
naiors for Roosevelt He said he hao
Maid out about $4,000 in Atlanta, through
W ! Tuson; $4,000 In Florida, through
u 7, Anderson; $4,000 in Mississippi
through w. L. Mollison and IS. ID. Hed-
mond, and $4,000 in Arkansas through
J. A. Conner.
THE total expenditures in Tennessee
no said. had been about $4,000; in Ken
t,ckv $1,000: in Oklahoma. s3,OOo; III
Virginia, $1,000. and in South Caroiiha'
$500. In Louisiana. he SAID the! loo"
care of themselves
Mr.. McHarg then told of the CONFER.
arce in New York when 1t was decided
70 drop La Toilette, and added that ne
mad had nothing TO do with POLITICS sih'e
the June convention.
"Did YOU get surfeit thenE askeu
Senator oliver.
"weu. I don't know. couldn't follow
co,oro, Roosevelt any further" he re-
piled. A.. ID
|. Mr. NacVeagh, who was the first VIII.
,ass called today, said he did not recaii
having been in Mr.. Morgan's office when
the latter was called to the telephone. as
NJ wo,Iiver testified yesterday Mac
Veagh had told him.
ct never saw Mr.. Morgan use the teie'
nbone or knew of his being called to the
tolanbone." he said, adding that MT
>tcrpan had never conversed with MN
- The subject Of campaign contriou'
tons lit, A.
Mr. MacYeagh said he did not wish to
coz, bo had not given Mr.. Welliver some
basis for his story.
.T NAV have called on Mr.. Morgan on
the dav | have in mind" Mr.. MacVeaeh
continued, but remember calling on MT
II Nick. Twombly at his once IN INV
latter part of October, 1901 WINE We
u.re conversing he was called To the
te,enbone by his clerk. His office Is 1T
the same building as Mr.. Morgans' out IL
the upper stories :,
when Mr.. Twombly returned he TOTO
me he had been talking to f. II. Harn'
man; that Mr.. Hartman had been caheo
70 Washington by Colonel Roosevelt aho
| had found the President anxious lot Inv
raising Of an additional fund for the cam
naign: that II had resulted In Mr.. Harri'
man agreeing TO raise and give to Mr.
! Bliss $4,000.
| Mr.. Twombly said that Mr. Hartman
had called him up and said he expected
him 10 give $4,000. Mr.. Twombly said &c
me that Ned Hartman was going to give
| $50, 900; that he had been asked TO give
| $50, 900, and he said something that LED mt
to infer that Mr.. Morgan would give
$4,000.
Thought Contributions "a Waste"
| He said OF course, Mr.. Hartman had
/ been acting in the common interest ano
! that the contributions would have to b'
! made. l recall that he expressed th'
opinion that the contributions would p'
practically a waste, that Mr. Roosevelt
was sure Of his election. but that MI
| Hartman, who had been acting In the
common interest, could not be expected T.
stand the entire contribution. he aodeo
| 'Of course. there's nothing for me u
( do but TO meet HIS request
Mr.. MacVeagh said that undoubtedly
I was the incident to which Mr.. Russell ane
Mr. Welliver had alluded
81 made no secret Of IT," said Mr.. Mac
| veagh, because 1t was thought at tina
| time 10 be fine, patriotic thing to give
! g. N