New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-15
WENT TO HEADQUARTERS TO
SURRENDER, SAYS HOROWITZ

"Gyp" declared he had made untruth-
full answers to many Of the questions
asked him at Headquarters, saying that
he knew he would not be believed IL he
did tell the truth, and saying that most
OF the questions were asked at a very
early hour in the morning. when he was
worn out. he did not care II the answers
were true or not. He said when asked
again why he had given false answers
that he was more willing TO place his
fate In the hands OF jury and an hon
orable judge than in the police. lie de-
clared that while at Headquarters Com
missioner Dougherty had urged him to
squeal on his three friends and that Mr..
Moss had offered him immunity. Mr..
Moss angrily denied this.
Continuing the cross-examination after
noon recess, Mr. Moss inquired further
about the statements made by the wit
ness to Deputy Commissioner Dougherty,
| after Horowitz had been arrested. The
| witness said they were partly true.
when did you hear you were wanted
for the murder" Mr. Moss continued.
The Saturday after the murder. /
heard that Frank Muller, Franak Cirohci
and Louis Rosenberg were wanted by the
District Attorney for an interview
Horowitz calmly acknowledged he had
read that there was reward OF nVe
thousand dollars for his. Lefty Louie
and Rosenbergs capture shortly after
| the shooting.
! Mr.. Moss then read from the minutes
| Of Horowitz's statement made at Ponce
HEADQUARTERS. and asked the witness why
he had not said when asked by COM
| missioner Dougherty that he knew "eoeT'
| WALTON and Rose. and told then he knew
who had done the shooting. as he now
| contended
why" smiled "Gyp." because Com
missioner Dougherty didn't want TO kno"
! that"
Didn't Intend to Tell Truth.
Didn't YOU have any intent OF telling
The truth az that time when before the
Commissioner"
{ II did not
Mr.. Moss then switched from Ponce
! Headquarters and the cross-examinsuoh
continued:
! o-You thought that Jack Rose had
/ sorne part In LeIigs arrest ana hos'"
/ berR's wounding? AYES. -. ,hn
ODD you think when you sa" tnSS
shootinx al the Metropole that Rose na1 ,
/ Gotten YOU there IN order to frame Sou
| Ip? A.-No. | thought they were Shoo'
~" Is a. "Tben did you tel! anybody about
seeing the shooting OF Rosenthai! Al
told ny ny, s0u aiS you ace lack" Zeliz after
tho murder. Al did not see him.
! O Did he send messages TO you! A.
| He sent letters 10 me. 80, u.his
| Odd you know that Juose "a"''
| "SEYou wrote 10 Zelig from the Iomos
! and signed Yourself Your true frleno'
| Gnrry An affectionate letter? A.-fes'
| {, was an affectonate letter. ,,,,.
! O You stated that on the night OF Jul JUL
u you Went 10 No. rs Second avenue Win
asuybI,ev" and remained there untll "
o,c,nck after being Joined there by
"fSfty'" liz that right7 A.-fes SIT:
| O.-What Ia that place. h, "a nsns o ord
6-For what? A.-Pickpockets ana
% a. isn't that the most notorious mans ,s
~, ca the country for panders, evli WON,
en- thieves and gunner? A-ihieNes' yes
but not the others. % he found
| O.-Weren't you always 10
,hero7 Mo- not always. ~
| 'i p you had seen some one else muEue, rue,
Rose MI bcen accused? A.-Well, | Knew
na w,s ,' there and my record was not very
| good auay7 Al don't
think he did quay from No.
osSS seventh avenue. and never CONS
Sack9 Al don't know about franz
oi1n mop7t YOU know that no references
uc. made Of any gang for week ait ea
was mae, nd A.-No. | know there were
r ref rem, made to zeligs s gang Rose
Q.-Didn't YOU know that ~ 'a apnsa red?
| IS beld before your name Hppeaieu
was p know that he gave himself up
was In ParkVilie'
yher Mr.. Moss finished with the cross
examination OF "Gyp' the witness Men'
hack to his seat with smile on DIS race