Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-16

IN seeking to bring and hold immi.
grants here. He asked how he recon
ciled that to Kinney's position on the
public policy.
Carter said Kinney did his work for
the plantations in his professional ca
pacity. ....>. p.
Reminded by Attorney Ashford that
Carter Is chairman of the land board,
the Secretary asked him further as
to his views on the land problems.
Carter explained the system OF OPEN
Ing public lands on which leases have
expired. "
He said his duties had nothing to
do with demonstrating, however. He
said the Governor had discussed ques-
tons of policy with the land board,
but had never attempted to influence
it or usurp any of its functions.
Under questioning by Attorney Oh
son, Carter thought a public utilities
commission should be chosen and ap-
pointed by the Governor, not chosen
by the elective method. and that 1t
should have general Jurisdiction over
all public utilities in the Territory.
Attorney Ashford asked If he would
not think the Senate might choose
such board. He did not think that
would be satisfactory, and that good
men would be left off the board.
Prince Kuhio. asked for an opinion
on the idea of a county public utfli-
ties board, said he favored Terrific
rial board. -s..s-.
Attorney Ashford and the Secretary
then discussed the desirability Of TAX
ing up some land matters in detail
at once or after the trips to the 9TH
er islands. II was finally decided to
postpone the detailed inquiry into
these Questions until later. u
Price Not Fair.
1T seems tome 81 q, ton for cane
with sugar at cents seems not fair
said Carter, discussing the rates paid
by the plantations to the growers
He thought 1t is unfair to the man
who owns the land and bears the bur-
den of producing the crop.
He said he does not; have much
faith In the American homesteade
the man coming from the States.
That man will not be content with
the social advantages, or lack of them
here, and to other conditions in gen.
eral He did not think the commu-
nifty plan would work unless the
plantations desire it and are willing
to cooperate. This was with refer
ence to sugar lands. It might prove
satisfactory on other lands.
The Governor should be able to !
discriminate against men who, he be-
lieves, would not remain on the land
permanently.
Asked If It Is not fact that the
system is burdened by the sugar fac
tors. or agencies, who, Ashford said.
sit upon 1T like thirteen men on the
dead mans Chest Carter said he
was not sufficiently familiar with the
sugar industry to answer the ques.
ton.
Ashford, In reply to the Secretary's
query. said that the brokers here cons
troll virtually all the big sugar plan
tations, and take their percentages
from the business both ways.
He said the brokers are actively In
terested in all the big plantations,
asserting he could name dozen such
who virtually control the business.
Governor Frear. in answer to thel
Secretary, said this is true. He, said
there Is one plantation on the island
of Kauai which is not compelled toll
sell its. sugar through the brokers.
He explained the system Of handIingI
the sugar brokerage business, as itl
came 70 him in the course of q hear
ing when be sat on the bench. Of the
Supreme Court o few years ago.
After some discussion between the1
Governor and Fisher, the latter ask
ed II it wouldn't be good thing forl
q stockholder Of plantation to make
the condition of affairs public, where |
the sugar broker, taking advantage of
his power as controlling interest in
q. plantation, 20 compel 1t to pay him
an exorbitant rate, at the same time
compelling it I'd sell through his
agency.
The Governor thought this might
be all right.
Ashford, asked what he understood
the duties of Clark. the member of the
board of immigration, said he did not /
know that Clark had any duty other
than to draw his salary, and remarked |
that he is at present touring Europe.
Ashford, q moment later, asked Cow
srnor Frear about the latter's attempt
10 reduce prices of foodstuffs at the
plantation stores, stating that cou-
pie of years after the Governors at
tempt, Mr.. Keefe issued a statement
that prices were far too high. The
Governor admitted there had been
some difference in opinion at that
line concerning the plantation store
prices.
Shortly afterward Mr.. Carter was
excused.
Dr.. Clark Discussed.
Delegate Kahio was asked directly
by the secretary what he thought of
DR.. Clark, and Secretary Fisher
read from a letter written to him
from Hawaii which declared DR..
Clark is the best-informed man in
The island on all subjects. Ashford
says his comments on Clark are com.
nents ON the organization or lack of
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