The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1912-12-14
Court Holds Second Wit
ness for Dynamite"
Defense.
STORIES OF ZEISS
CONTRADICTORY
Union Worker Denies Statements
He Is Alleged to Have Made
Before Federal Grand Jury.
Thomas Taggart on Stand
in Behalf of Accused
Men.

indianapolis. Ind. December IL
Jail on charges OF perjury for Fred
erick ". Zeiss. Chicago. union
worker: the testimony of Thomas Tag
CART. Democratic national committee
man. about an explosion. and speeches
and reports in which the Iron Work
ers' international Union was accused
of approving defiance Of law in its
strike, were developments at the
dynamite conspiracy" trial to-day.
/ Zeiss. the second witness for the de-
Tense to be held to the Federal grand
jury on charges of perjury. was a
roommate of Ortie +. McManigai
when McManigaI blew up a building
in Detroit i2 June, 1907.
He is charged with testifying falsely
to-day in an effort 10 impeach Nc
Manigals confession. Last winter the
district attorney said Zeiss asserted
before a Federal jury that McManigal
never had confided TO him about eX
plosions. which was in accord with
what McManigal had said To-day
Zeiss testified McManigal not only
confded in him. but also offered to
split up with him if he (Zeiss) would
help do the dynamiting.
In response to questions by Senator
Kern, for the defense. Zeiss testified
McManigal had told him all about the
Detroit job. had invited him 10 go TO
Bloomville. O.. to procure more dyna-
mite. and had said Herbert s Hockin
would pay both OF them for future
jobs
His narrative completed. Zeiss was
passed to the government
/ Did not / ask you before the grand
! Jury last winter whether you knew
about the use of dynamite? asked
District Attorney Miller.
Ct don't think you did answered
Zeiss.
And didn't you say you didn't know
ano-thine abott. any explosion
NO sir. l don't remember saying
it
What do YOU think l took you be-
fore the grand jury for? to look at?
~Oh. 1 object" said Senator Kern.
| Judge Anderson said to the witness;
-Dc YOU say that a few days after
the explosion McManigal told you he
had done it?'
Zeiss hesitated-
Now" said Judge Anderson. don
90, inpudent with me. Do you know
where YOU are? II YOU don't I'll give
Won an object lesson. Answer that
question"
Certainly. McManigal told me"
Did you tell any officer OF the law
about it,"
No sir.
You concealed it,
Yes. sir
Placed In Custody.
The marshal will take this witness
in custody. Will deal with him
k,,ia
later held Zeiss TO the grand jury and
nxed his bond at $4,000. in default of
which the prisoner was taken to jail
several days ago William H. ouig-
lev. Detroit union carpenter,
another witness for the defense. was
held TO the grand jury charged with
neriurv. after a handwriting expert
rad said Ouigley had written a letter
which QuigIey said was forgery
Mr. Taggarts appearance was as a
witness for the defense. He said that
ten DAYS before an explosion on a
building in course of construction ~
French Lick. Ind on March 20. 1911.
Frederick sherman, union business
agent. who is a defendant. talked with
him about unionizing the job
The government repeatedly objected
TO Mr.. Taggsrt's testimony. as in
competent and irrelevant"
Did You know that any arrange
ments were on foot to blow up the
Job asked the district attorney.
II knew OF none" answered Mr..
Taggart-
An you could do was to request the
contractor to unionize il so IL would
no; be blown up. is that it,
Il did not know il was TO De blown
up
And YOU don't know who blew it.
do YOU"
That's all"
The explosion was charged 20 Jsme,
Il. Mcnamara
Speeches made By Emil Scidei then
Socialist Mayor OF Milwaukee. before
the convention OF tho International
Association Of Bridge and Structural
Iron Workers In Milwaukee IN Sep
tsmbcr. 1911, referring 90 the arrest 81
J. j. NcNnmara. the dyramiter. as \
"is.dnappiuG.- and reports before TIC
Iron workers convention n; Eoche%-
ter. y Y IN September. 1910. tn
month before the Los Angeles Times
building was blown ur. were introouc-
eli By the government through the eN-
ADMIRATION OF PAUL J. Norrin. 81 Louis.
a defendant.
rrx.d Them 90 DEFY Lsw.
In a report be Eugene \ Clancy.
san Francisco. read 20 the jury.
Clancy was charged with having urg
I'd that strikers tn Los Angeles DEFY
tho Iaw. Clancr was quoted ~ re-
ferrine TO tho los Angeles municipal
government DURING the stfke thas
preceded tifc los Angeles Times ex-
piosion. - the eoo-E0o government
ar.i ali the officers % the Iron Work
crs' Union. now on trial here. were ar
cused q approving o. Clancy's re-
marks b. publishing his report IN thc
union magazine.
Attorneys Tor the defense Attempted
20 show that MoTrin was not IN ac-
co-d with some % the policies OF the
MIN Thc governrncnt aiLcrnpted U