The chronicle=news., 1912-11-30
THE
N G. MAMARAS
GET OTHERS
BURNS.

| Indianapolis. Nov. "o.-QucstionR
why James II. Mcnamara, dynAmltcr
OF the Los Angeles Times building.
was not arrested until fir" months
after his identity became known
were put by attorneys for the dcions"
u, the dynamite conspiracy" trial
today to Raymond !. Eurns. sou OF
the dc'cctiy" who managed til" at
| rest.
Raymond Burns had testified that
h" had learned OF McNamara's guilt
on November =. 1910. one month
land one day after twcnty-on. per-
sons wcr" Killed at Los Angeles and
that on November & his operatives
gnt In personal touch with The dy-
nnmlt.r. afterwards "shndowinr"
rim for month In the Wisconsin
" Gods. The arrest followed on
April IL. 1911.
You say you knew early In No
yrmbcr that the man In the Wiscon-
sin woods shndow.d by your men was
the dynamitcr of III. Times building.
Why didn't you arrest Mcnamara
right there and them" Asked A.
torncy William y. Harding.
because We were trying to get
the men really responsible. Tor the
explosion" answered the witness.
''You mean men higher W In the
union"
| Yes, sir
| You say you knew at III" timr
that 3Ortic: T.. McManigni caused cx-
plos!ons ut Peoria. Why didn't YOU
arrest McManigai?'
For the same reason. We were
after the men higher up"
Threats OF death for telling about
explosions were related by Mis-. Alta
NJ. Hawkins Mt the dynamite con-
lspiracy" trial today. Mrs Hawkins.
'aitcnded by n nurse and suffering
iron injuries received In a recent,
Ishootiug. WIS carried into, court on n
cot, N- III
Il Mrs. Hawkins testified that n few
days bcfor" explosions caused n loss
OF sia.Ooo on the property OF Al
bert Won Sprcckciscn In indianapolis
In 1903. she was told by Erncs, q.
~. Hascy. an iron workers union
official. that something was going
to hnpren on Jobs rshcrc .non-union
workers were employed.
He told mo to look In the incws-
papers the ueSt day and read about
lit'rsuid MIS- Hawkins.
''In the papers saw nothing
1hcn' he told me, i, did not come Off
that night but to watch the .ncxt
night. | did and abou, midnight
heard til" explosion. Iiascy called
me on tn" telephone and told me I
must keep my mouth shut. lie said
II I didn't'I would be killed"
The witness said she was shot
several weeks ago while hunting.
RAYMOND j. Hurns.s who said he
knew tie identity of the the Los
dynamifcr,five months
before the arrest told today of more
conversations he said he had with
Herbert $. Hockin. indicted secretary
OF he 4Iron Workers Hunion. Burns
described Iiockin as as''spy" within
the ranks of the union officials.
II inquired for details about the
Los Angeles explosion. Hockin said
OF San Francisco was paying money
to NJ. a. Schmidt through. Ed Nocklcs
a union official In Chicngo. TvcIt.
moe himself was taking care of pa
vid CapIan. Caplan and Schmidt
were the ones who. Hockin said had
helped ]. B. Mcnamara blow up the
Times building" ~"
Raymond Burns also described
ishadowing j. II. Mcnamara and Me
Manigal to Toledo and Detroit whore
he, with three other detectives ar
rested the dynamitcrs on April II.
1911.
when Hockin told you Tv"itmoc
and Anton Jchaunscn were planning
to blow up w. J. Burns in San Fran
cisco or Scattl" by putting bomb
In his room did Hockin tell you the
source of his information?'' asked
Attorney William \. Harding. for
the defense.
"Hockin told mo he had learned
from j. j. Mcnamara that they were
planning to get rid of W. j. Burns
cu the pacific coast. W. J. was then
still on the coast investigating the
Times explosion"
Burns next related how he lost"
McManiCal. who in the meantime
had caused an explosion at Los An
gcles and how j. B. Mcnamara had
covered up his tracks"
| Afterwards the witness said the
trail led to the offices of the Iron
| Workers and detectives for weeks
witched who who connected with
h. j Mcnamara"