The evening world., 1912-05-09
MANY DROWN
WHENDUFF-G0RD0N
WOULDN'T RETURN
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johnson. a steward. A. having bssn

johnson. a steward. ~ having bssn
exemplary.
johnson. who left the chip In No. Z
ernsrgency boat. . small dingey. was
asked why there were not more women
In the boat. He replied they would not
get In. Mr.. Ismay. the witness said.
tried 10 induce the rome 20 enter
the dingey. but they refused. where
upon he escorted them TO larger boats.
"Ho did everything an EnsilshmAn
could do" Johnson added,
The Witness said the Stewards also
tried 10 get the women to abandon the
ship and take to the boats. Stores tor
the iiseboats We, brought up from
below, but nobody took the trouble TO
put them into the boats. johnson ~
closely examined on the point Of why
his boat had not returned to the scene
Of tho disaster when its occupants
heard cries for help.
He replied that the oficsr in charge
had asked the womsn " they should
return, but the women decided against
this course. and the officer took their
advice. Under the existing weather
conditions their boat would have held
five Of six more persons. johnson testi-
ned.
Dillon. OF the engineers staff. said
that after the watcrtight compartments
had been closed from the bridge the
chief engineer ordered his mon to 20
through our boiler rooms to rsAch the
pumps In boiler room No. g.
70 carry . thas order Ne men
were obliged 10 open the doors o.
Tour watsStaght bulkhsaAs ana
having done "a tAsy isiS tAa doors
open.
ROOM THEY WENT TO wAs
FULL. OF WATER.
Replying to q question from Lord
Asrssy. the President Of ths Commits
sion, the witness said the men did no,
70 into boiler o No. 8 because there
vas too much water tbs re. In fact
the water was leaking through into
boiler oom No. 4.
At this point the attorney for the
white Star Line. Sir Robert Fln,ay
explained that the doors mentioned BY
the witness could not be opened with.
out being released from the bridge.
Dillon went down with the ship
After the last boat had left he wen
to the poopdeck. where there were
many men but no women. When tn,
Titanic foundered. tho witness said
he was sucked down about two faith
oms and was later picked up In an un
conscious condition. He remembered
swimming about for some twenty min
utss before being rescued. He saw
he said, At least n thousand othsi
men swimming or floating on the sur
face. buoyed up by lif6 p~reservers. H,
saw no women In the water.
The attorney for the Seamsns an,
Firemens' Union asked Dillon an
other members OF the Titanio's orsv
whether the opening of the bulkheal
doors by the engineers stan had no
caused the aftsrpart Of the ship to SIM
after the forward part had broken on
The witnesses could not say.
Ihs attorney suGgsstsd that the
evidence Of some witnesses that
Tie sftsSpaSt Of the ship r1Shtsd
itself monsxtaxtly after ths for.
warA part haA AM justaasA his
1 theory that ~ the bulkheaA doors
Asa not been opened the after
pert Of the ship wouiA have ~
u malnsd Ascot.
Further evidence to-day consists
chiefly Of the reiterated experiences {
o stokers, one of whom said that as thei
were no women left on the upper dec
his boat was lowered TO h third dec
and was loaded with women from II
: third class. The men. he said. stood b
. quietly. Another witness TESTIFIED thu
his boat was 20 undsrmannsd that
70 was necessary 20 return to the stsamt
d for more men to handle the oars.
% Tue Attorney General. Sir Ruf,
/. Isaacs. explained that the only eviden,
= o~btainabls In regard TO the engine roo
I was that the stoksrs md all The q
|" gtueers went down with the ship. On
; seven OF the ctghty-ons hremen on dur
!. n the time of the accident were saw