The Sentinel=record., 1912-09-24
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 lice official or was that private em- ployment?
 A. As private employment.
 Q. Who was your employer?
 A. Well, I suppose the district at torney's office pays me
 Q. You expect him to?
 A. Yes.
 Q. You haven't been paid yet?
 A. Yes.
 O. By the district attorney?
 A. I suppose so.
 c. Well, who paid you?
 A. l suppose-it come in a voucher 10 MT Hotchliss to take 1t and pay me.
 Q. Mir Hotchkiss paid you?
 A. Yes sir.
 c. Was the voucher made payable to you or MT Hotchkiss?
 A. II hasn't come here yet.
 Q. You regarded it as fair and req sonable compensation to you for what you had done?
 A. Yes sir.
 Q. Did Scheprs tell you how long he thought 1t would be before he got ous of his trouble?
 A. No, he didn't say.
 Q. He asked you what he was held for here?
 A. No, he understood that he was held as material witness
 Q. Do you arrest material witnesses 8 Il Arkansas without any process, Cap tain Howell?
 Where we get a picture or cir cular from an important office like ,hat in New York, we do.
 Q. Was there circular to that ef feet here?
 A. Yes sir.
 c. Did it say he was wanted as 2 material witness?
 A. don't remember just what the circular said because the picture did not look any more like Schepps than look like negro.
 0. Mir. Hitchkiss didn't turn him over to you then?
 A. We trapped the fellow from the information that MT Hotchkiss got. c. If any newspaper in any part of the world should telegraph to you they wanted you to hold a man as d material witness, would you trap him and hold him?
 A. If they had grounds sufficient, ] might
 e. They didn't state the grounds 10 you. did they?
 A. They said he was wanted in tho Rosenthal case.
 Q. Then you held him as a murder CT?
 A. l held him for whatever they wanted him.
 c. You don't know now whether he was implicated in the murder or whether he was material witness or not of your own knowledge? A. Only what he told me.
 Examination of witness by Mr. Whitman:
 o. Did Bercholtz call on Schepps more than once while he was here after he was taken into custody. as you say by yourself?
 A. Well, he come and Mrs. Petit wouldn't admit him and after we came down stairs she explained to us and then Schepps wanted to see him and we admitted him.
 e. You were present all the time Bercholtz was with him?
 A. Yes sir.
 Q. Anybody else in the room2 A. l think Mir. MQsier came in. Q. But you yourself was present all the time?
 A. Yes.
 Q. Did Bercholtz talk in Yiddish or any foreign talk to Schepps? A. No.
 Q. Did Schepps talk in Yiddiah pr any foreign tongue to Bercholsz? A. No sir, I would not have allow ed it.
 e. Did you hear al. the conversa- ton?
 A. Yes.
 Q Was there any reference made to Becker, or was Becker's name men toned in this conversation by either of them?
 A. No, they talked over old times 
 O. You would have known it and noticed it if it was made?
 A. I would
 o Referring to your testimony, have you stated all that you recall of the conversation between yourself and Schepps relative to Becker? A. No.
 O. Can you recall anything else? A. Yes, Schepps was awfuiIy sore at him and he was sore every time That his name was mentioned. II seems that they accused him of being paymaster in the papers and it made him sore, and he said he was not but he said he was there and saw the money paid.
 e Did he say whose money it was2 A. He said 1t was Becker's. Q. Did he say in words or in sub stance that he had been present or heard Becker say that if you boys or you men, or words to that effect don't do this murder, I will?
 A. He didn't say that, he just said the gang.
 c. State what he said.
 A. He just said if the gang didn't get him that night before it got to the grand jury that he himself tBecker) would.
 Q. That schepps himself heard him say that?
 A. Yes.
 Q. And Sdhepps told. you that? A. Yes.
 c. By he you mean Rosenthal?