The Washington times., 1912-02-01
HANECY'S SARCASM
G0AOS BURNS INTO
FURIOUS PROTEST
Detective Resents Insults"
In Lorimer Hearing Quiz
on Witness Stand.
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words, Burns and Judge Hanecy kent
up their exchange In spite of the com
TN read your record all right" shout.
eu Burns to Judge Hancey.
Judge fianecy defied him to disclose
ang.nlng In his record Of which he was
senatoy Kenyon took a hand. as soma
Turns. e'"' VII
Cant the witness protect himself?"
This man has been hullyragsing
everybody who comes to the stard,"
declared Burns.
You are a witness here.' admonished
ATTORNEY Healy. formally objected to
Judge Hanccy being allowed to lecture
the Witness He insisted that only prop
er questions be allo we'd.
He objected to the question of, Judge
Hanecy :ontaining personal reflections.
W non he does, I conceive it to be
my duty to call attention to the i'm
Healy. 'and to make objection"
Judge Hanecy insisted with heat that
ne mad kept within his rights.
Committee Stops Acrimony.
After a hurried conference. the COM
mitteee, through Chairman Dillins-
ham, directed that sarcastic remarks be
omitted, and that differences between
the counsel and the witness be dropped.
Thus admonished, Judge Hanecy
changed his methods slightly, and
things temporarily ran more smoothly.
Judge Hanecy then brought up an ex-
tract from Chicago Tribune dispatch,
telling of the prospective appearance of
Burns before the committee, and what
1t was expected to prove. Burns denied
that he had given out the Information.
discussion of some length followed
as to the circumstances of the employ
ment Of the Burns agency by counsel
for the committe. Mr.. Healy made q
statement with, respect to the circum-
stances of the employment. He said
there was no secret about it, and he had
no hesitation in telling the committee
the facts
Senator Jones insisted that the inti-
nations given in the Tribune article
that a forecast of what Burns would
divulge or his operatives would say
had come from members Of the commit
tee, did not relate to him. He had
given out nothing of the sort.
Attorney Healy told the committee
the reason the services OF the Burns
agency were discontinued in October
was ,sn,,ir. that t the a, agency was not getting
obtained up to that time was not %
such a definite or conclusive character
that the counsel felt warranted in con-
vtinring the services
the employment and termination of the
Buns agency services
Judge Hancey sought to interrupt
wEereupon Mr.. Marble sdiu
~ wish you would permit me to make
one statement without quitting words
into my mouth"
Burns was questioned about an inter-
view in which he said: 81 don't pro
Iose to let Mr.. Hines or ary other" man
aSsail my course and get away with it,"
He was asked by Judge Hanecy If
INV n ttav,1 Il
by Hines or anyone else, and change
his course.
Burns said there was not, except he
has been told that Hines had said:
This is another one of Burns con-
spiracies.''
Burns said he had given an interview
in which he said in substance that
Hines or no other rich man could
change his course.
Cover Old Ground
Much of the time was consumed go
ing over ground that was covered yes
terday Judge Hanecy took numerous
shots at the reputation of the Burns
agency, which led Burns to discuss his
own methods and defend them, and re-
suited in much bandying of words be-
tween the lawyer and Burns about their
respective regulations. HaneCy at one
time told Burns he wouldn't want such
reputation as he could give him.
mo you couldn't get it," snapped
Burns, You know you want it,"
In the course of numerous questions
asked Burns by Judge Hanecy abopt the
employment. of yeggmen, safebrowers
and like crooks, Burns explained that
1t was sometimes needful to use such
men. 1t was often done in the protcc-
tion of banks, he said. Such men We're
employed to get information, ana like
purposes. he said. They were not part
of his office force
After wrangling at length and get
ting title that shed new light on the
facts in the Lorimer case, the hour
OF 1890 arrived and Burns was cX-
cused with the understanding that he
would be subject to recall If needed
The committee at 1890 o'clock re-
cessed until o'clock. 1t is expected
Detective A. G. Bailey will go on the