The Irish standard. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn. ;) 1886-1920, 1912-11-30
JOHN REDMOND ON
PAR1YS POSITION
Explains Attitude of Nationalist
Party Concerning Representa-
ton in Parliament.
Administers a Singing Rebuke to
an Unmannerly Tory on Latter
Day Politeness."
After Home Rule is Granted all
Round he Would Want Irishmen
at Westminster.

Speaking on the representation OF
ireland nt Westminster under Home
Rule, Mr.. John Redmond said:
an, not surprised that some hon,
gentlemen above the Gangway thought
that my right hon. friend, Mr.. Lough,
was out OF order when he alluded to
the financial aspect of this particular
question, because the course of the
debate, so far as / have observed, has
entirely given tho go-bye to what the
member for the Walton Division (Mr.
j.. lI. Smitl) made long, character
stic and exciting speech; but, from
beginning TO end. 80 far as l could
follow him, he never alluded to the
proposal of his learned friend (Mr.
CasscD, which is that Ireland should
he unrcpresented in this House until
the deficit is wiped out do not
know whether the hon. and learned
gentleman Is in favor of the total ex-
clusion OF Irishmen from this House
or not, or what his scheme is or
whether he has any preference tor
one over another. IT. seems to me,
therefore, scarcely worth while dwell
ing very long upon his speech, be-
cause it seems to he the speech of a
man WHO simply raised difficuItics to
IL scheme he desires to destroy, and
not contribute anything in the nature
of useful suggestion for the solution
OF difficulty. lie drew a lurid pic
turc OF what will be the state of
things in this House In future If for
ty-two Irish members come here that
would dominate tho Government, that
would settle the fate of great policies:
but that is the state OF things now
Uronical Opposition cheers) in a far
more accentuated way ministerial
and Nationalist cheers).
Tho Ono Great Demand.
There have been In this House,
rIa':t' 'a''v all du. hx last century, a
large body Of Trlsl memhers, whom
you constantly accuse of sinking min
or differences and putting on ono
side minor questions, in order to con-
ccntrate themselves on one great de-
nlnnd they make for the restoration
of Irish Self Government. This Is tho
case at present (cheers). During last
century you had this large body Of
men coming here with this single OBJ
icct. Why, you constantly accuse us
you say, You voted for q Budget
you might not believe in, In order
that you may get a Home Rule BILL"
You have 1O3 Irish members coming
now, and you actually get up and pro-
test against AZ. which, as my right
hon. friend opposite has said, IS, at
any rate, a mitigation of the evil by
onchalf. 1T would be quite easy to
show that the other arguments Of the
member for Walton Division are
equally transparent (cheers). How.
ever. ] have not risen for the purpose
of going into matters of the kind, and
am most unwilling to occupy the
attention of the House upon this or
upon any other portion of the bill. I
have only risen because I wished to
put quite clearly before the House.
as it has been put more than once.
our position on this question Of Irish
representation after Home Rule. The
history Of this question has been re-
counted again in the House.
Total Exclusion in 1886.
J Mr.. Gladstone proposed total exclu-
sion in 1886, and l am obliged to the
member for the Walton division for
reminding me of a speech which I
made then, in which l said we were
not all enamoured of it. I distinctly
stated on that occasion that fed
eral arrangement was the solution OF
this question, and therefore l did not
look with any equanimity on q pro-
posal which would permanently ex-
clude Irishmen from this House. The
right hon. gentleman says that 10
nearly thirty years ago. And why has
not the Federal system been perfected
since then? Where does the fault lie!