Evening star., 1912-10-08

Ex-senator Depew of New York testi-
fed regarding an effort to displace him in
the Senate and to send him as ambassa-
dor to France. But he refused to with
draw. The story is that Black was to
succeed him in the interest of Higgins
candidate for governor of New York.
Never Saw Morgan Use Phone.
Wayne MacVeagh was sworn as the
first witness. He was asked to discuss
the Morgan incident. He said that he did
not recall having been in Mr.. Morgan
office when the latter was called TO the
telephone in the month before election
day, 1904. Mr.. MacVeagh said he visit
ed Mr.. Morgan's office great deal
II never saw Mr.. Morgan use the tele-
phone or knew Of his being called to the
telephone the witness said.
Mr. MacVeagh said that Mr.. Morgan
had never conversed with him on the sub
jeet of campaign contributions.
II suppose he knew said the witness,
Of campaign contributions. l have always
thought them degrading both to the Siver
and the receiver
Mr.. Macveagh said that he had not
told Welliver anything descriptive of any
incident in Mr. Morgans office.
give Mr.. Welliver some basis for his
story said the witness. After an ar
gument, the committee insisted upon Mr..
MacVeagh's giving anything in his con-
story.
Was in Twombley's Office.
Il may have called on Mr.. Morgan
on the day 1 have in mind said Mr..
hi, ~ r tnAr mo
Mr.. H. Nick Twombley at his office in
the latter part of October, 1904. While
we were conversing he was called to the
telephone by his clerk. His Office is IN
the same building as Mr.. Morgans, but
in the upper stories.
me he had been talking to Mr.. Z. -.
Hartman: that Mr.. Hartman had been
called to Washington by Col. Roosevelt
and had found the President anxious for
the raising Of an additional fund for the
campaign; that it had resulted in Mr..
Hartman agreeing to raise and give to
Mr. Bliss $4,000. Mr.. 1wombley said
that MIR. Hartman had called him up
and said he expected him to give $4,000.
Mr. Twombley said to me, Ned Harri-
had been asked to give $4,000: and he
said something that led me to infer that
Mr. Morgan would give $4,000.
He said Of course Mr.. Hartman had
been acting in the common interest and
that the contributions would have to be
made. 1 recall that he expressed the
opinion that the contributions would be
practically a waste; that Mr.. Roosevelt
vas sure of his election; but that Mr..
Hartman. who had been acting in the
common interest, could not be expected
to stand the entire contribution. He
added that of course there's nothing for
me to do but to meet his request"
Mr.. MacVeagh said this was undoubted.
ly the incident to which Mr. Russell and
Mr. Welliver had alluded
81 made no secret of it, said Mr.. Mac
Veagh because it was thought at that
time to be fine patriotic thing to give
funds to a campaign
What Peabody Told MacVeagh.
Mr.. MacVeagh also related a recen,
conversation with Charles 4. Peabody
president of the Mutual Life Insurance
company. in which Mr.. Peabody said he
had been in Mr. Harriman's Office when
he called up Mr. Twombley about the
contribution.
MIR. Peabody said Mr. Hartman told
him he had been down to Washington
and that the President insisted, or re-
quested, or desired, that he raise the ad.
ditional money, part of it for the state
! campaign in New York and part of it foI
use in other states.
Mr.. MacVeagh added further that Mr.
vited to lunch at the White House with
Mr.. Frick. This was before the Harri-
man incident.
while he did not say so, he gave me
to understand that they had both made
contributions afterward," said Mr.. Mac.
Veagh.
Mr.. MacVeash had 'objected to relating
these incidents. asserting that the men
concerned were dead and unable to testi-
fy themselves. But the committee in.
! sisted that he answer the various ques.
tons.
Interests Represented.
what interests did Mr. Twombley
representa-" asked Senator Paynter
HE represented. as understand it. the
Vanderbilt railroad interests"
Under further questioning he said Mr.
F'rick represented coal and steel inter
ests, and Mr.. Archbold and Mr.. Rogers
Standard Oil interests, and George J
Gould leading railroad interests.
| Did you know at the time Mr.. Twom
bley told you this incident that MIR. Nor
gan had agreed to give $4,000 to th
fund?'' asked Senator Paynter.
| II don't know that I had definite in
formation about that at that time but
knew that all men of that class We're con
tributing heavily to Mr.. Roosevelt's cam
paign.'' said Mr.. MacVeagh.
Senator Paynter wanted to know wha
| MIR. Morgan's interests had been at tha
time and whether he was interested II
| the steel business. Mr. MacVeagh sal,
he was dominating figure in transpor
tation. industrial and financial affairs Il
answer to another question he said MI
Morgan was interested i'm steel
| Mr.. MacVeaGh did not know whethe
| Mr.. Morgan or Mr.. Gould had ever bee,
| at lunch at the White House.
| When Mr.. MacVeagh finished forme
Senator Depew was sworn. He said tha
| the late II. Nick. Twombley was a yer,
| intimate friend Mr.. Depew said he wa
! elected to the Senate in 1898. Prior t.
that time he had been connected will
! the New York Central railroad.
You have always been a republican -
/ asked Senator Clapp.
with the exception of the Greeley cam