The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1912-10-01

the preStdent'o u messages to congress
on railroad nlaaters. and to the erect
that they wouM discuss parts Of his
message with Mt. Hartman at a later
time. Mr.. Hartman said he had
learned that other railroad men knew
what the president intended to rec
ommend relating to railroads, and
that he was ''very apprehensiye''
about the matter.
Il sincerely believe it would be
best for all Interests that No rerer-
ence be made to the subject" he ad-
ded.
On the same day after Mr.. Harri.
man had talked over the telephone
with Secretary Loeb, President Roos-
evelt wrote the railroad man saving
his mind was made up on the rail.
road question. He said that when he
wrote IN October. that he wanted to
discuss matters with Mr. Hartman,
he had In mind the currency question.
ana had not thought of discussing
recommendations for railroad leptsla l.
ton.
Money, Not Railroads.
However. II 1t had occurred to me,
II should have been delighted" he
wrote. "As regards what 1 have said
in my message about the interstate
commerce commission while as say
should have been delighted to GO
over it with you, must also franklv
say that my mind was definitely made
up"
The president added that he had
determined upon an anti-rebate pro-
posal because Of revelations In the
investigation Of the beef trust" and
that he had carefully gone over his
proposal with Secretary Paul Nor
ton. and with Root, Knox, Taft and
Moody"
To Mr.. Harrinnans suggestion that
ne would see the portion of the pres
ident's message in question, the pres
ident said:
II do not send you copy simply
because 1 nave given no one a copy
not even the men mentioned above
It is impossible II give out any por.
ton of my message to prevent my
message being known in advance"
TO this Mr.. Hartman replied De.
cember 2. 1904. expressing the opin.
ION that an effective interstate com.
merce commission could regulate the
matter Of rebates "and absolutely pre-.
vent the same. without any additional
power Of any kind"
1T was natural for me to SUD.
pose," added Mr.. Hartman, that
railroad matters would be included
IN any discussion YOU and I nigh,
have before writing your message.
The appointment Of a governor Of
the territory Of Altoona in 1905 op.
ened another correspondence between
mended Chief Justice Edward Ken
for governor to succeed Governo,
Brodie. and w. II. Stillwell for chic,
justice to succeed Judge Kent.
On January %, 1905. Mr.. Harri
man wrote the president he woult
very much regret" the appointment
OF B. A. Fowler as governor Of Ari
zona. He said he had no particular
candidate to urge. but hoped some
other and more suitable man may b.
selected for the Office.
President Roosevelt replied Janu
ary 20. that "he had in a way be
come committed to Fowler; that h,
had been our candidate for congress
and his nomination seemed to me t.
be absolutely right
What is there against Fowler
the president asked in conclusion.
Mr.. Hartman replied: My infor
nation Is to the effect that Mr.. Fow
Ter Is very strong partisan of tn
Santa Fe; and he expressed the be
!.eh tHdt =. w. Wits or prescott wa
"an able and Fair man."
AS said before, I have no can
didate to urge" Mr. Hartman ad
ded. but trust you will not appoin
Mr.. Fowler. would like to talk t
you on the telephone about this"
President Roosevelt replied tn,
next day, January 81. that 1t would b.
Every unpleasant" for him with Nor
ton in my cabinet to say that he hat
rejected Mr.. Fowler merely because
heard he was strong Santa Fl
man unless there was some specific
objection to him"
II need hardly tell you" the presi
dent added. that II I appointed him
would twist his neck as II he wa.
chicken the moment found he was
showing one particle of favor to the
Santa Fe. or for that matter. to the
Southern Pacific or any other rail.
road, just as would twist it IL
found he was discriminating agains,
any railroad. How would it do for me
to write him this In practically these
words?"
Mr.. Hartman again protested
against Mr. Fowler's appointment
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