The Detroit times., 1912-10-08

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lished, Inaccurate In several .particu-
lars. OF a speech l made previously, >
lsaid Russell
I'm 1910, when was an editor OF
Hampton's, said Russell, Mr.. Hamp-
Fton told me that, a week after our
Particle on Roosevelt appeared. that
wayne Macveagh sent for one OF our
tmen The reporter told what Mac
Veagh- said, Macveagh told this man
ItAe anecaote for the purpose of pub
tlieatisAy- bat We decided net TO pub
lish II. About 10 months after that
Hampton was dispossessed. l re-
tanned the information and / gave it
out for publication.
Coming from Mr.. MacVeagh, 1t
never occurred to US to doubt It."
| Clapp called Russell's attention to
MacVeagh's denial OF the affair Rus
tseIl said he had since sent summary
fof his statement TO MacVeagh and
tMacveagh replied. but did not say II
was incorrect.
Clapp told the witness the commit
ktee must have the name OF the in
Iformant. y.
The name OF the man is hudson C.
| Welliver", +4. -
Welliyer. Is "a reporter and special
writer for the Munsey papers and
magazines. Russell said Welliyer had
told him that he (Welliver) had in
terviewed Macveagh and he told the
story. A.,
+ Russell explained that he neter
charged Roosevelt with soliciting
money from Morgan. He had only
told me story or the telephone inter<
view as ne had heard II.
Gould IL have been anybody else
I'm the White House who called Nor
gan on the 'phone?" asked Paynter
+ Il don't know. had an idea IL
might have been Cortelyou or Bliss
or somebody else, i don't know even
that Morgan was talking with Wash
ington."
."How would this affect welliver's
employment with any reasonable en-
pIoyer?"
Z don't know, but Mr.. welliver told
me II might"
Russell was excused and Judson c.
wtfffver, WHO mad been sitting along
the reporters table said he'd like
TO testify.
Welliver was sworn. ~
when | went TO MacVeagh. I saw
he had changed his ideas as to Roose-
xelt," said Waiiyer.
He formerly liked him, but at that
time he appeared 10 regard Roosevelt
as a dangerous citizen"
Welliver then recounted the Nor
gan interview.
As MacVeagh told II to welliver,
II was that Morgan went to the phone
and talked. Morgan had z. H. Harri-
man on the phone. Then he turned
to MacVeagh and said:
What do you think? That man in
Me White House wants me to con-
tribute $4,000 more?"
."MacVeagh got the impression that
Hartman had gone to Washington &c
get Rooseyelt's aid in raising addi
tional campaign funds" said Welliver
Morgan called Roosevelt some un-
complimentary name, MacVeagh
said" Welliyer testified. Morgan was
said to have been very indignant and
excited.
He said that Morgan said:
Hartman has gone tn the White
House and now he wants $50. 900
more from me-. -.
my recollection is that Macveagh
SAID Morgan did write cheek for
$4,000, and sent Il TO Harriman's
office, but that may not be correct.
II reported this interview"
Abe you certain that MacVeagh
said Harriman's name was used %
Asked Clapp E4
Very positive" said Welliver.
MacVeagh Indicated that IL occur
red in the latter part OF October" the
witness added.
Welliyer said the only substantial
difference between his story and Rus
sells was that Russell said the Nor.
! gan conversation was with Roosevelt
while he, Welliyer, understood from
MacVeagh that Morgan was talking
to HaTriman az washington.
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