New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-08-04
Factions at Odds Over Question
Of Full Tickets in All States
or Part Tickets in
Some.
NOT SURE OF ROOSEVELT
Each Side Claims His Support,
hut Neither Certain Just
What Stand the Colonel
Will Take When He
Does Decide.

Try s,aT Correspondent OF The TribuneI
chicago Aug. 3.-The situation in
N. third term party Is rapidly shap-
,re I'D for a real fight in the conven-
tim somewhat to the relief Of some of
the enthusiasts, who feared it was
solng TO be too much Of a cut-and-
dried AFFAIR, with nothing even re-
senbling a scrap.
Present indications point 10 real
contest over the question Of distinct,
uneouivocal third party, with complete
tickets in every state. or sort of half
breed party. running complete third
term tickets in some states and frac-
tionsl tickets In others.
Colonel Roosevelt. IL appears from
bis instructions to the lllinois state
convention. has not made up his mind
clearly on this point but is what
inclined 10 straddle the issue. In his
communication to the Illinois conven-
ton he congratulates this state on its
stand for a complete third ticket, and
then adds: "Of course. there are GER
tain states where the conditions render
1t unnecessary" etc.
There is every reason 10 believe
majority of the men now in Chicago are
convinced there should be q complete
third party ticket in every state, re-
gardless OF the local conditions to
which Mr.. Roosevelt refers, but there is
also a substantial minority, who, like
the Pennsylvania boss, William Finn,
greatly prefer. for practical reasons.
such compromise as the Pittsburgh
statesman induced Colonel Roosevelt
TO agree to for Pennsylvania
Fisht Over Expedieney.
Il is freely admitted that this con-
test will continue throughout the con-
yention. One faction will contend that
as the new party is TO stand for new
policies and principles and to lay the
foundation for a great and enduring
national party. ii should stand squarely
on its own bottom, sacrificing, if nee
tssary, any tactical advantage IL may
eniov In certain states and asking the
voters TO support only third party can
didates. from Presidential electors down
10 sheriffs. The other faction will
stand out stoutly for expediency, con-
tending that the policies Of the party
may be best promoted by retaining
every tactical advantage the third
termers now enjoy and seizing on all
the others which may come within
their reach.
Opinion here is radically divided as
10 what stand Colonel Roosevelt will
take in this controversy. 1t is ad-
mitted that whichever side he espouses
viii win. but each side is claiming that
he is with 1t. and thus far he has given
no final indicat tion Of where he stands.
Before Finn went TO Oyster Bay the
e1President took his stand strongly
and unequivocally enough TO satisfy
the most exacting for the complete
ticket with no compromise with the old
party or the old organizations. After
Mr.. Films visit he let II be known
that he had assented 70 the Finn COM
promise scheme for Pennsylvania, and
now. in his communication TO the 1lli-
nois convention. he uses language which
enables both factions TO maintain that.
IN the final analysis, Mr.. Roosevelt will
eEpouse their cause.
The attitude of the two factions was
pretty well Illustrated by the state
ments Of two of the most prominent
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