Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1912-02-18
Telephone Device Records
Every Word of Several
Accused Union La
Dor Leaders.
INSTRUMENT HAS
BEEN DISCOVERED
It is Said it Has Been IN
Use at IronWorkerS'
Headquarters Since
October.
IAss0ciafcd Press Dispatch !

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INDIANAPOLIS. Feb. 17.-Whatov-
er Frank NJ. Ryan and other indicted
union officials said in their office
about the dynamite conspiracy since
last October is alleged To have been
learned by the government through
a phonographic device. it was discoN-
cred today at the headquarters of tn"
International Association of Bridge
and structural Iron workers. y die
tograph. hidden under the drawer OF
desk about which Ryan. president:
Herhcrl :. Hocbin. sccretaryreasur-
cr: J. r. Butler. first Vice-presiivnt,
and other officials conferred concern
ing their defense. This is said 10 have
enabled two government stenograph'rS
in "a room below 10 take daily reports
of the conversations.
Th. use of the instrument was dis
closed today when Ihe government de-
cided il was no longer Of value because
a woman clerk in Ryan's office was
heard to say: Well suppose they are
hearing now whatever we say" That,
with statements by Ryan. convinced
assistant attorney Clarence Nichols the
apparatus is no longer useful
The discovery of th" phonoeraphic
device followed soon after The gov
ernment received limitations that some
of the defendants are ready % tell all
they know" About district attorney
Charles ". Muler's office fl was said.
something had been expected" but
gr-nn
said the device worked satisfactory for
months and many volumes Of stem
ographic notes were taken 10 b. used
AT the trials. The instrument was
still working TODAY when the follow
ing was recorded:
Woman's Voice: Il wonder if those
wires go to the Jail. or whether they
aI>e listening To us now"
Voice: / suppose So. Wish I could
find out where the sounding board is"
Hockin: Say. RYAN, do ToU know
what a diotaeraph looks like
Ryan: Its about as big as a ha'.
I am told: but | never saw one"
Hockin. Il hear there is one on
exhibition in this city. I believe
will go ana take a look at it."
After that Nichols said he hal no
doubt Ryan knew of the instrument.
As a fur,her showing of the operation
Nichols gave out a sample convorsa-
ton known to have taken place last
wednesday soon after the arrests here
made
Hockin: GO right on bows l will
be there in n minute
Voice: Evidently reporter. VIII
these men be able to get bail?''
Hockin: We hope SO. but we have
no money to furnish"
Voice: How much money is in the
ironworkers areasury?
Hockin: About $4,000. I think"
Voice: BY the way is Mcnamara
picture in this group"
Hockin: YES. that's him. right
there"
Voice: rs it your idea the govern
ment will pay the expenses Of thesf
men coming to Indianapolis in March
for arrpie9ment.
Hockin: well now. that puts ar
idea into my head: | had not thought
about that. 1t beats the devil now
there are SO many things to think
about. 1t seems the government ought
to-"
When Ryan was told there was {
phonographic instrument in his office
he consented to have his informant
search the office. An examination oi
Rvap's desk exposed an annunciatoi
apparatus hanging by wire against thC
back will of the desk, directly beneath
the top. It was disconnected. the an
nunciator shown To- Ryan, and ther
carried away.
What 10 you think about that?'
asked Ryan.
How did they get in here" Wher
told that records had been taken o
| conversations in the office since Oc-
| tober. Ryan said the government mus
| have a transcript of many consulta'
! tions between officials Of the union OF
| the subject Of the Investigation of dy
namiting conspiracy. Wires from th'
| device ar 1unciator ran from bacl
of Ryan's desk. through the floor L
| the room below Here sat every da,
| two stenographers for the Governmen
under direction Of Rowland Evans
! stenographer for the federal cour'
| with a receiving apparatus at thei
ears. StenOgraphers worked in re
| lays except such times when it va
designed to make a double record 70
| confederation. Both Ryan and Hockil
| said they were amazed that devic
had been in operation in the office
though they had speculated on tn
| 4, ar.faf u
the government investigators.
They are welcome To anything
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