The Hawaiian gazette., 1912-09-20

Excuse me, Mr.. Secretary, 1 will
have to 20 into a little political talk"
said Motley, at which n smile passed
around the room, for politics is Char.
ley Notley's long suit. az am presi-
dent Of the Home Rule Society. Dur
ing the Dole administration there was o
commission sent out here from Washing
ton to investigate conditions. I APP
peared before that commission and ask
ed that the Organic Act be changed to
allow the authorities in Washington to
appoint Governor from there. That
matter went before congress, but L
don I know what happened to it. /
say the same thing again"
For Utility Commission.
"You think we ought to have pub
lie utility commission, asked the Sec
rotary. eyes" replied the Home
Ruler.
"Suppose we appoint a Governor
from the Islands, if we can find prop
err man, but 4 not, you believe we
ought to appoint one from the main
land. Is that your ideaH" inquired the
Secretary.
Gas a Hawaiian, / believe it is the
only way out of this squabble."
"What is your reason7"
"Well, those down here are little
too much interested-the Hawaiians
are crushed outs
eff Governor is appointed from the
mainland, do you think that Governor
should appoint that commission7' ask
ed the Secretary.
GIVE All Lands Back.
81 am not scared about carpetbag-
| I'd Nntl he
pie who came here were carpetbaggers,
anyhow. / believe you should give all
the land back to the Hawaiians.' -
"Give it to him without any excep-
tioni' asked the Secretary.
''Just give it to the Hawaiians, - re-
piled Motley, with a magnificent swing
of his arm. 81 believe the 999-year
lease is right for the Hawaiian. I
think the Hawaiian ought to be treated
little better than others. But these
people should have some money to help
them
Glow do you think it ought to be
given to them,p was the next question.
81 think we could find out how the
commission could handle ito
"Would you hand it out from the
steps of the city hall, hand it to them as
L
Fisher.
elf man takes land on a 999.year
lease we feel that the commission
should help him to get a house on
the land: say a house costing $780,
and supply 800 month in cash. Let
the commission have power to decide.
elbow would you go about this mat.
ter of giving him money-every time he
/ Il. h. -
to the commission to get permission
",Just let him have the money by the
month";
"That is the way we do with the In
dams, Mr.. Motley" said the Secretary
! We dole it out to them. The result is
they do not work very hard, they Just
though they have very rich lands. We
work their lands for this reason.'
fUnder the homestead law you havt
,, the right to take it back from them, ,
said Motley.
"You say, then, to advance money t,
the homesteader, and if he does not liv,
up to the law, take back the land7"
"Yes.'
"Well, suppose one half of the Ha
one half do not. Then we should talk
away the lands from the half who d.
not work. Would you let them 90 bacl
and get more?'
No Help for Them.
"I say, give them another chance,
+ was Notley's reply. fThat is Just wha
troubles us all just now. There is n
help at all.''
edo you think, frankly, that if a ma
Q was given tract and is willing to wor'
!, and transportation facilities are jus
q right, he could make living if h
really wanted to work7''
''No trouble at ALL
;. "Why are not some of these land
that have been opened up, taken up b
u Hawaiians2'
"The law
Mr.. Motley said he was getting alon
very well on his homestead He hire
help and paid $50 a month for labor.
g As to the various kinds of homestea
0 laws, Mr.. Motley said the right of pul
e chase proposition was no good. TIL
e 999-year lease was the only proper on,
% In auctioning off lands the plantatio
managers, he alleged, put up dummie
to buy in certain lands. The settl,
i ment association plan, in his opinio
d is all right. He did not approve of til
special agreement plan. 1t led one I
'r borrow money and "then let it G
Is again. -
A. AS to cane lands, Hawaiians woul
8 work upon them. They helped build u
N the present sugar estates in the Of
a, days when laborers of other national
-e ties were not in the Islands. Mr.. Fish,
ID said he had been told the Hawaiian
% do not like to work twenty-six days
X a month. Mr.. Motley replied that sint
g. the Hawaiians have learned the vall
le of money they work all right. The
le had worked, in the old days, for as 10
N as twenty-five cents a day. The Hawa
,r ians now want good wages. The pla
lie tations, however, do not want this ella
s. of good laborers and get other race
1t was not his experience that Hawa
s. ians only labored for fifteen days or
At and then took rest
as Would Work for Pay.
IN "Hawaiians always want to work
i'd you pay them,' asserted Mr.. Motto
I'd During the strike the plantation
is wanted them and paid 81 80 per day.