The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1912-10-09
ON HARTMAN
FUND IS AGAIN HEARD
CONTINUED from cage ~

So!ous1 roosevelt IN the primary
fight, held the witness stand through.
counted for the expenditure Of Ss5, 900
or $4,000 by the Roosevelt commit
tee in the southern states where con-
tests were brought. He denied that
any money had been spent to influence
delegates or that he knew Of the use
OF any money IN this way either be-
fore or at the Chicago convention.
Mr.: Mckinley admitted freely that
the TAFT campaign committee had
CHICAGO convention. a procedure that
both he and Mr.. McHarg said had
. a long standing custom" Asked
as to how many delegates had thus
been provided for. he said he thought
EXPENSES had been paid wherever a
delegate could nc afford to pay his
w way"
do you know anything Of the use
Of money at the Chicago convention
to change d~elegates?" asked Chair.
man clapp.
No Outright Buyins.
Nothing I would want to swear to-"
SAID MI. Mckinley s1nilingly. II have
kept out Of the Ananias club so far
and I guess I will remain out"
Chairman ciapp asked both Mr..
McHarg and Mr.. Mckinley II they
knew Of an alleged Underwriting" Of
me Roosevelt campaign by men who
were said to have pledged Sc, 900 900
or 100000 to secure Colonel Roose.
Eelt's nomination.
1T is an absurd yarn" declared
NJ. McHarg. Il would have heard
OF such a thing II It were true and I
consider such a story absolutely alb
surd."
Mr.. Mckinley. when later called to
the stand. answered the same ques-
ton:
1T think that a silly story, Just as
Mr.: McHarg said"
a long examination Of President
Taft's pre-convention campaign man.
ager drew little more from him than
the origlnal statement he had given
the committee. Senator Pomereni in
nmated that Mr.. Mckinley was a
poor business man to have kept such
inadequate books: but the latter in
sisted that the campaign had .siust
grown. like Topsy" and that it had
been impossible to keep track OF re-
ceipts or expenditures.
He did not know where the bank
books or check books were, or wheth-
er there were any balance left in the
banks. but agreed to look the matter
up. To most of the committees ques-
tons he answered, IL don't know or
II don't remember"
The detailed expenses at Washing
ton headquarters. sworn to by Mr..
Mckinley included:
81, Printing oaSs and mailing literature;
postage. $4,000: campaign buttons
and Autographs. $4,000: advertising
and news service. $4,000: speakers
expenses. travelling and special trains,
$4,000: expenses Washington head.
quarters. $4,000: Chicago headQuar-
ters.. $4,000. The cost Of President
Taft's campaign tour to Ohio was
said.
Mr.: Mckinley said no one was
sent by the Washington Headquarters
% Massachusetts for the primary neht
there.
McHare's Story.
Ormsoy McHar9 sai1 the prelimin-
airy work he did in behalf Of Colonel
Roosevelt was undertaken at the re-
quest OF William L. Ward of New
vey Of the country" to ascertain the
continent Of. the people. Later MI.
AcHarg said. he took up the work Of
organizing the Roosevelt campaign in
the southern states.
He declared that his dealings had
been exclusively with local attorneys
IN the states. who we're placed in
~ tA0 4OId1 I0x
Roosevelt He said he had paid u
about $2.500 in Atlanta. through y.
J. Ti!son: $500 in Florida through
II. L Anderson: $4,000 in Mississippi
through ". z. Mollison and s. b.
Redmond.
The total expenditures in Tennes.
see, he said. had been about $4,000;
N Kentucky. $1,000: in Oklahoma,
$4,000: Virginia, $1,000: South Caro-.
n $500. In Louisiana. he said,
they took care OF themselves"
Nr. McHarg said he had participat.
ed In a conference in New York in
January at which Dan r. Hanna, Wal
ter L Brown and he thought Frank
A. Munsey and George ". Perkins
a discussed the change Of certain
progressive strength from Senator Ia-
TO Colonel Roosevelt.
I advised against the shifting Of
OF Senator LaFollette's strength
Colonel Roosevelt" he said. be
cause ] knew 1t would be CHARGED up
Colonel Roosevelt and that the
charge Of tfeachery would be made. !
! am sure Colonel Roosevelt never
nae anything to do with such change
OF the progressive strength" |
Nr: McHa-g told the COMMITTEES |
mat he had had nothing to do With
politics since the June convention.