The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1912-11-12
McManigaI Continues His
Amazing Story.
HE duplicates RYAN
Says "McNamara Told Me How Near He
Came to Blowing Up Statue Of Brig
ham Young in Salt Lake Job"--Found
Hooking Had Held Out $500 on Him."

indianapolis, Ind, Nov. l2.-Goinl
deeper into his adventures as pait
dynamiter, 0rtie Z. McAIanigal told a
the dynamite conspiracy" trial yester
day of wrecked bridges, viaducts ant
buildings he left behind in causing ex
plosions in various cities.
AFTER | blew up the powerhouse Of
a ear shop in Mount Vernon, ILL.,, Her
bert S. Hockin came to me at Chicago
and said | had gotten the wrong job,
testified McManigal. "IIe said should
have blown up a railroad bridge, and
the unions executive board wouldn't al
low me pay for the job.
"a few days later Hockin returned
with j. b. Mcnamara. Mcnamara said
he had just come from Salt Lake City,
where he had blown up the new Utah
hotel building on April Is. He told me
j. f. Munsey, the business agent at
Salt Lake City, had arranged for the ex.
plosion. and Munsey also arranged to
prove an abb when the explosion came
of by going to a store and talking TO
the persons there.
Showing me newspaper picture OF
the Salt Lake City explosion, McNama-
IA said il had been terrific. II came
near blowing a statue OF Brigham Young
off PEDESTAL Hockin went to Cinein-
natl in June and wired me to follow.
told him would do one of two things
work for living and quit dynamiting,
or do nothing but dynamiting. Hockin
said he had plenty for me to do. He
said | was TO 90 to indianapolis, get
twelve quarts of ntroglycerine, and
blow up the Donison Harvard viaduct
in Cleveland on June %.
~. b. Mcnamara accompanied me
from Cincinnati to Indianapolis On the
train / told Mcnamara that Hockin was
to pay me sl25 for each job. He seemed
surprised, saying the executive board
was allowing 5000 and expenses on each
Job. / said Hockin was holding out on
me. Mcnamara said the big fellow
meaning j. j. Mcnamara. his brother, |
who was treasurer of the ironworkers'
nnionl would see that | was paid in |
Tull thereafter.
"At the ironworkers' headquarters at !
j. b. and j. J. Mcnamara |
ind I compared accounts and found that |
-Iockin had held out $500 on me for all
he tobs | had done J. j. said he always |
Hockin was a double-crosser,
nd now he knew it. He said he was
-oing to tell President Frank NJ Ryan
bout IL; but | was to go right on with
he Jobs as Hockin planned.
~. B. and with three nitro-glycerine i
,ombs of four quarts each, packed in
nit cases, departed for Cleveland, reach.
ng there June Is. 1910. four days be-
ore the explosion. Hockin appeared and
aid he had seen Peter j. Smith, who
aid everything was all right. When we
sere ready to pull Off the explosion we
,ere to telephone Smith to keep under
over.
"Hockin also said they were preparing |
D blow mp jobs at Detroit. that the
lrpenters' union had put up 500 and /,
he sheet metal workers were willing [
) do their share. The carpenters, he !
aid, wanted to get a manufacturing
,mpany. I
at about Q o'clock, on a rainy night, I
e put the bombs on the Cleveland Job,
fter crawling on our stomachs to elude {
he watchmen, returned to town and r
,ok a train for Toledo. At Toledo we O
'ad in the newspaper an account OF b
he Cleveland explosion. Then we went v
Detroit, where we met man with a \
ack eye J. p. said he had 500 from q
lie carpenters union to pay us for il
ork."
"Do you see in court now the man il
no had the black eyei" McManigal was il
ked.
The witness pointed out Charles a
'achtweister, former iron worker bust &
'ss agentsin Detroit, who is a defend $
IT,
after J. b. had gotten from an ex-
ess Office a package of internal ma
ines that had been shipped from In
anapolis,p continued McManigal. che L
id there had been too much talking
ing on in Detroit, and we wouldn't
ow up any jobs at that time. | went :,
t in field and buried twelve quarts =
nitro. glycerine, marking the spot by .
nging a tin can on the branch OF y
arby tree u