The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-08-24

this matter had you any reason to doubt himf" asked Mr Pomerene.
 "None in the world, MT. Archbold re- piled.
 When you told Bliss that the board would do no more what did he say?''
 He said that 1t was a mistake" MT. Archbold replied He said I speak to you personally, I think you had better make this contribution, as if you do not somebody else will, and think you will be making mistake He put 1t on personal grounds and mentioned his friendship for me toward the end
 Did Mir. Bliss ever tell you that Colonel Roosevelt was grateful to you for not making this further contribution? asked Senator Pomerene.
 No MT. Archbod retorted.
 Witness said he had never heard of a proposition to return any campaign funds until within the last two or three days. Senator Pomerene asked if MT. Archbod had ever talked to MT. Bliss later about that.
 q went to MT. Bliss after President Roosevelt and some Of his bureau heads began their line of unjust attacks upon us" MT. Archbold said. MT Bliss threw his hands back of his neck and said he saw the attacks were unjust, and said that he was with us. but he could do noth- ing
 MT Archbold said the matters he re- ferred to were made upon the Standards position and were considered attacks on the company by the officials. Two men were implicated. one was Herbert Knox Smith, commissioner of corporation President Roosevelt unfailingly approved these attacks without investigation and without the slightest knowledge of the facts,p MT. Archbold. said
 More Than Coincidence
 Mr. Archbold declared there was more than a coincidence in the appear ance of adverse governmental reports every time certain companies were con cerned in litigation every time leg islation was made In Washington in. which the companies were at issues These reports were quoted and MT. Smith was held to be mere puppet who jumped when Roosevelt pulled the string. MT. Archbold averred. Senator Pomerene asked MT. Arch bold If he thought the refusal of the Standard Oil company to make sec ond contribution had anything to do with the so-called unjust investiga- tions.
 Mir. Archbold compressed his lips and said T don't know"
 Did you call the attention of Bliss to what he had told you before cleo tion in regard to Roosevelt's position?" ask ed Senator Pomerene. T presume 1 had some talk with Mir Bliss about MT Roosevelt" re- piled the witness, but Bliss was not the kind of man to say I told you so Bliss said 1t was with humiliation that he must say he had no influence whatever with Mir. Boosevelt.'
 Senator Pomerene insisted upon knowing what had passed between MT. hol1 h, of hA nnr versation when the Roosevelt investi gations were discussed.
 T suppose Mir. Bliss probably ex- pressed his opinion that it would not have been thus if we had done as he had wished" said witness. and I have no doubt whatever on that point my selfr Mir Archbold said. Do you know whether MT. Bliss made report to MT. Roosevelt that you had declined to make further contribution?" asked Senator Pomer- enc.
 'I assume. of course. that 1t was so reported" replied witness. "I do not know in what shape the report was made. but it was undoubtedly made MT. Archhold said.
 Penross Takes Stand Mr. Archbpld was then excused and Senator Penrose took the stand lie said he nau been gwen ID un~ derstand at the time Colonel Roose- welt knew of the contribution of S100,- 900 to the national campaign fund by the Standard oil company and of the demand for further contributions. "l also knew of the urgency of the re- quest of Nr. Bliss to Mir Archbold for the additional $f50Q00,' MT. Penrose said, and his saying the refusal to give it would probably result in retail iatory measures. the theory being that 1t threw the powers that be- down. as MT. Archbold calls them and into financial hands and that the Standard OH company would be the goat in vernacular.'
 Senator Pomerene took up the exam nation of Mir. Penrose. He inquired about various interviews with Archbold and other men connected With the Standard Oil company. MT. Archbold told me MT. Penrose said, that his board of directors would decline to aid in the national campaign if there was any secrecy about the matter. If their activity was not known to Pres- ident Roosevelt and Mir. Cortelyou."
 t'At these interviews was anything said about Roosevelt's tariff views?' was asked
 Tt was said he stood for a pro- tective tariff as outlined in the re- 1 publican platforms since 1sa6,"' Mir. l Penrose said.
 "was anything said about his att