The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-09-24

MIR. k"oCh ra~ rNt r-' .rii ~ ii" inter
view NJ whic! COMMISSIONS" Waldo re-
turned III" paper. ~ IL" Ca-"~ rejected
bv Commissioner Cropsev IT. ,Hrticl-
III the examinations made lJ,er IN III"
case OF on" or r,vo uut uf thirty or forty
caso4. he -ail tho co,nmissiou'. examiner
made reports Aio.i ot the COMMISSIONS
cxatniration was concerned with reading
over what material the Police pepr,-
neri hrd lu uiyiLi"g NJ the work Mr.
koogh said, tho three tonmi.s ,orcrs di
,dci up tho hir'v ur forty oa>"s marked
on thom The cic, 'hrv Thought -hould he
again cert led n',d suiumnncd What appli-
cBu's thoy thought should h" heard
~" object !uus" to "Iut" u number
of he crqcs tho object iour, bad h"en niG j"
bv Commissioner trup~"v were with
drawn bv COMMISSIONER N",do according
10 WHIT Mr. E,ogh had lcsrnc,l from Com
ms sionors Cree imau aud N"l'inc
trrc,mnn snttcd to stand.
Jr Creelnau was then called He
spoke in !. very low touc. which often was
inaudlblc To the members of TIA" commit 90
except those ycrv close To- him. and his
testimony was puun nugted hv requests
from Mr. Bnckncr Ihriim'n rurran and
other, ~ spea, louder
Before ullcsi IonuE the president 81 the
Civil Service commission Mr. BuCkncr cN
p,s.ned the work nf ~" comn'te" 80 far
which he'd irnd. II ne"nssarv jncall Mr..
Creclmrn The commit" IN gong oN"r
the files uf the Police l'.p2 = ncnt had
come across y uumher of "a S.~ Of mon " -
had bcp n appointed To- III" depart men in
be frs, month of curnmis,loupr waldo =
administration about whom there wcr"
reports IN IN. files made 10y 'h. invest iGa =
tlon bureau which Mr.. Waldo had Ghol-
Ished.
Mayor Gaynor. Mr. Buckner explained
had said that commissioner Waldo had
examined into every case OF the men he
appointed: Commissioner Waldo had said
on the stand that he turned the cases over
to the Civil Service Commission with a
request for an examination OF each case
and had abided by the commissions de-
Cision when it put the men back on the
eligible list
Within q day or two after Commits
sioner Waldo took office. commissioner
pointment with the Civil Service Com
miss ion over the telephone saying that he
wanted to deal with the question of the
records Of the men who had been rejected
hy Commissioner tropsey. Mr.. Waldo
failed 10 appear AZ the time he said he
would zone or two hours passed" and the
offices Of the commission were closed :.
commissioner keogh finally had to 60 10
Keep IN engagement. hut the other two
commissioners. the secretarv and the
sssir.ant secretary waited and received
tho rolicc Commissioner. who came with
".rme nf his aids" aud brought along in "a
largo Jackaga done NJ ~ brown paper -
"thn records of the Pohc" department
18th rnls' Ton ~ tho patrolnen objected Ia
- commissioner rupser
waldo sorted the rarcrs.
'Nr Waldo took tho records.- he VII
~c-s cont inueL "Ilcv we're pla ced on the
tehls ~ ha presiJen, : room close to nv
t'a. K. aud IN the presence If he commits
n,on he turned over o., Mr. Spencer. did
hivo forgnt'"r which turned over These
'.'cf,rcs. ono ?f:sr The other, ard b" woulo
aay now and then. Y will appoint that
mem. or an willinet o appoint that man
md I viii tskc this wiki mo
q. raAing one Of the papers? A Taking
Inc record v'-. do not know how ruany
40 Yithdrew. hut NY no.. impression is
iiat there ,.re about iorty-setrn in the
giual uhi",iion -: tommiss sionrr 'ropsev
md thiut that Of thnS, v hp we're rejected
:Ur character there vorr abu,It thirty Sc Ecn
,rrt' 18th t!~ which. rr, ,hr cass- the Police
ommie, loner dcs,tei to pres- where he
ieajr"d r" urcs- ih" obIac'ons In tn"
other ,a-p- hc tormalIy withdrew the oh
COTTON r,. 'Ghiur IN" records away and
..vng hat hr ~ i,hcd ari intended To ap-
point tho" men. ti 'uVl - SO had Il great
MANY other records sent us. hut these re-
IGtcd merely to rn. seal disQualicatlons.
9 pp you ludcrsttud thai the entire
foTt".s",cr were 80 iu character, 4.
think there werc fort v.~evcu ~ to cha rae
loft with ne am speaking nov entirely
from memory
The commission then proceeded to e
over the records of those left with II
In some cases, IN addition TO hearing the
candidate himself and listening to wit.
neSses who vouChcd for the candidate
The surrounding circumstances" were
examined. This latter phase Of inyesti
gatiou. he said. Wits not mad" matter
Of record.
"We make n matter Of record he eX,
planned, -only where the law requires
us to give hearing 10 a candidate only
the finding OF the commission in thes.
matters was recorded. he said. The wit,
ness Thought b" could give, however
what the commission had to offset il
these eases tn" specific charges Of tn.
police bureau Of Investigation.
Mr.. BlIcknor then began taking UP th'
names of the recert fled candidates fol
patrolmaIi on" AZ lime Necretar,
Spencer Of tho Civil Service Commission
stood az a table near Commissioner Creel
man ana IICke0 ONT inc records CI tnt
commission IN the various cases as eact
came up.
On many occasions Mr. Creelman t'irnec
10 Mr.. Spencer before replying at all
Mr.. Spencer gave him the gist Of what tht
commissions iecords showed or handed
over the record itself. and the president
Of tho commission then made his reply.
The irt case taken up was that %
Patrick Doyle. who Was alleged by tbs
police invest CATION bureau To have pre-
s.ntod y false birth certificate This
M-. Cr,elmsu said was one Of the case
which Comm saiorer Waldo withdrew
II" tGfGms-icror. Mr.. Cre"lmar
raid rnF"rrlGG 10 Nj. Waldo, was salts
t"d ~'ib 20" mar and Withdrew the recort
Ircm, Us
'tUrm--ioner Waldo no added "re
cli"S - u- 80 certify to him all of tn,
7rr.u' on ,np lis' who had been passed
~ "r GHdc ,iIH 1l-crc' ionary power OF tn
l'o1C"t' lrlr, ~''rsC from the vorv begin
rlNE ur iur 'hGibe list and under he Law
We are rcuu,~"d to certify "u.n the ar
itiT,;u.' 'Il"cf r"lU-.i- al' person VIII
~. ~ MS ti-'"r'i'i., has iH~>''d over
v, i'irEr"' hrUIgii uIt that Com
'nresiur"r N"i'lr trd a.ls"i for the new
iisl uu Nr" - "a" dtv h" tool, uhi co
;Di - ct The ~ us -"ri 60 t'm on MAY u
iDy,a -. tr,ri 'u this lr.' Nr ,r.el
nan t.ii ti.i "itior Nj Na!dr wlthdre,
iie ri,r" ~ DuS t. nr oIs" ihr' It vas on
ni ~" ,l-.'~ r,'Dr"tifiad Iu w Waldo n