New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-12
TIMELY BITS OF SPORT
Tinker Now Picked by Herr
mann to Manage Cincinnati.
FATE OF CHANCE IN DOUBT
Prospective Buyers of Phillies
at Work on Books to Dis
cover Earnings.


ness in baseball managers. Not content
with picking up Frank Chance, former
leader Of the Chicago Cubs, on Saturay
he arranged yesterday for the services
Of Joe Tinker. the great shortstop OF the
same club. After having made the mouths
Of the Cincinnati fans water with the
prospect Of having Chance for a leader
Hermann has changed his mind, and
now announces that he wants Tinker for
manager. Just what will become OF
Chance is not explained by the owner oil
the Reds.
The whole affair is very much involved
and ii is hard to discern the outcome
To the outsider, the deal whereby tinker
goes 10 the Reds is no nearer settleIlle"'
than IL has been for several weeks, our
ing which time the shortstops name mas
been mentioned as the prospective leaue'
Official sanction TO the tradinG OF llhhei
has been given by Murphy, the owner
and Evers, the manager Of the Cuos'
according 10 announcement which came
out of Chicago yesterday. Just VINO VIII
figure in the other end Of the zeal mas
not been made public, ana there j. inc
same chance of it falling through as there
ever was. Hermann has gone so iar as
to say that he will give neither Bescher,
Narsans nor Hoblitzell for Tinker, but
that was all he cared to state.
81 can't say what the trade will be, for
should it fail to 30 through 'ahe Cincin-
natl players might BE dissatisfied that
their names had been mentioned said
Tinker yesterday. 81 am glad Evers put
his o. X on the deal, for it will enable
me 10 take a job as manager, something
that I feel is coming to me-
The cruX Of the whole situation seems
10 be that Joe Tinker absolutely refuses
10 play with Chicago under the manage
ment Of Johnny Evers. while Frank
Chance is unwilling to assume the re-
sponsibilities in Cincinnati and thereby
take a managership away from Tinker.
Just what Hermann will do with two
managers on his hands is a matter OF
speculation. If he does not use Chance
as a leader the only positions left open
are those Of a scout or coach, ready TO
step into Tinker's shoes in case he fails
10 make good as a manager. This, OF
course. will not help Tinker any. As far
as playing goes, Chance Is qualified TO
cover only first base, and Cincinnati has
one of the best initial sack guardians in
any league in the person Of Hoblitzel.
There Is a possibility, of course, that
Tinker might give up his ambition TO be
leader and play short for Chance, as
manager. This would make Cincinnati a
very strong combination. But Joe has
IL 10 ear mr. a
and he will not be disposed to give up
easily. II can be safely said, however,
that both men will be glad to get away
from Murphy.
New BUYERS of the Philadelphia Club Of
the National League are i'm the field
again. William ]. Gilmore, a theatrical
man, and Robert A. Balfour, broker,
are said to have expert accountants at
work on the books of the club, with a
view of determining the earnings and
getting a line on a fair price for the
franchise. Horace Fogel is very glum and
quiet these days. and it looks as though
the entire affair had been taken out OF
his hands Gilmore and Balfour have
had several conferences with a represen-
tative Of Charles 7. Taft. Whether or
not Mr. Taft owns any stock in the Phil
lies, II has been learned that he pur-
chased the grounds which the club uses
In November 1909, by taking up an Opt On
which had been offered to the owners OF
the team I'm that year, but who did not
wish to exercise ii. Mr.. Taft Immediately
executed a lease TO the club for $1,000
for the first FIVE years. with a privilege Of
renewal for $4,000 a year for the follow
ing FIVE years and $4,000 year for the
next ninety-nine years. 1t is declared
that Mr.. Taft has the power TO break this
lease because Of some financial dealings
he has had with Fogel Mr.. Taft is said
, 10 be tired Of the notoriety he has had
IN the last few weeks and stands ready
70 part with the land Not 50 much the
Ming Of price on the franchise of the
cub as on the land is bothering the buy
ts The property forms a good real
state speculation. Two big railroads
purpose OF increasing their freight facili-
ties
zen IeSresu, the young spitball twirler
VI Inc Giants. arrived at his home in
rsryviile No, yesterday. having covered
me distance from New York in his new
overland automobile The town turned
oO' 10 welcome him and give him public
dinner.
O"e oi the echoes from the annual meet
.Hss oil the National Association Of Pro-
,'sslonal Baseball Leagues, now being
ueo in Milwaukee. is that Fielder Jones,
VINO Led the Chicago White Sox to a
sofds championship in 1906, will manage
he Yankees next season