The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-09-18
GYP AND LEFTY DENY
GIVING TIP TO POLICE
Two Suspects Say Chance Re-
vcaled Their Hiding Place
in Queens.
LAUGH OVER THE ARREST
Moss Declares That lIc Made
No Complaint About Dough
crty's Actions.

Lefty Louie Rosenberg and Gyp the
Blood Horowth denied yesterday that
they had given the police tip as to their
hiding place in Glendale. Queens. They
told their lawyer. Charles G. T Wahle,
that their capture was the result OF mere
chance and that il Mrs Rosenberg hadn't
been seen by detective who lived in
Glendale and who happened to know her
well they would still he at liberty.
I'VE were not at all bothered by the
police hunt" said Rosenberg. "We went
ont nearly every dav and were CON
stantly near policemen. II was Just "A
piece of bad luck that led to the arrests.
last Friday Mrs Rosenberg went TO
Beckers delicatessen store to buy some
food As she was returning one Of
Doughertys men who lived in the neigh
borhood caught n glimpse OF her. He
knew her at once and he could hardly
believe his eyes. He hurried over to
Manhattan and told Dougherty that he
had seen Mrs Rosenberg enter the house
at 75s Woodward avenue
Then. As we have been told. Dougherty
cot busy and put men around our
house A little while before the raid was
made we saw two men on the fire escape
They were trying to look into the dining
room When they saw that We had
spotted them they climbed down in a
hurry
"The raid Itself was funny. The de-
tective who knocked Al the door stuck
u gun in the face Of our friend Kramer
Aha! Gyp the Blood. I've got you''
he shouted Kramer backed away say
ing I'm not Gym. and then Harry called
out I'm Gyr. Put MP your gun
R-it~rntr Denial <bout Murder.
~ their talk with counsel Yesterday
! Rosenberg and Horovita reiterated their
denlalS that they had any part in IN"
killing Of Rnsenthal They said that tho
Identification of thcm made hv Louis
krese, n waiter, in court on Monday was
/ a Joke
/ "We we're not anywhere near he Metro
pole said Rosenberg, and &c course
were not in the gray automobile whcr"
kIeso says he saw us
/ Justice GoT continued Yesterday his
John Doe Investigation asked for hv
acting District Attorney Moss 10 deter
mine whether the police suppressed or
! ~ IT." apart ment occupied hv Rosenberg
and H"rowita and to clear up the CIR
"i,rs,ances cf the arrest of those
mon. The investigation is e,peced
ether 10 corrohorato or shatter the eH-
citing story told by Deputy commissioner
pougheuy Of the long and skilfully planned
hum that led IN tho arrest Of the pair
While the Justice was holding the secret
inquiry IN. District Attorneys men
were investigating a story told by R,r-
! nard Schwartz, Il ,insmth who lived in
tho Wo edward avenue apart ment house
with his wife and five children and who
was NJ home when the dete ctives seized
, Rosenberg and Hor owtz. Schwartz 5
story interested the Dis,ric, Attorney :
representatives ksenly
! He said that the detectives who made
tho raid made n" attempt TO keep quiet
as they entered the house. They were
, laughing and taking S"hwartz said.
/ 'Goldstein." one Of hem called out
/ "Goldstein. no you know anybody here
hy the sne of Goldstem?"
! Schwartz said that the Il electives
frsmped noisily into the house and mp to
the Rosenberg -Horcw,tz fiat They had
, no trouble getting in, he said, and they
did not have to force a door
The tinsmth said that Rosenberg and
Horowitz and their wives moved into the
place on August II, the day that retired
policeman. known in the neighborhood as
Rpss, moved out.
"Reiss," said Schwartz. had occupied
the apartment and had Also been the Jan
itor OF the house. On August ~ he an
nounced that he was going 10 leave the
neighborhood. He told nei ghbors that
he was going to a little town IN Connecti
cut where he had chance to open a NOV
ing picture Show. He said his apartment
would Iva taken 10y n young Jewish couple
4 few hours after his furniturc was re
moved Rosenberg and Horowi,l arrived.
Loot for Former Policeman.
The District Attorneys p men weretrying
last night Ia find the former policeman
known in the neighborhrod IA Ross
They considered that another interes in q
coincidence had been uncovered in thar
the fugitives' movements had been
coupled in n way with the movements of a
former member of the police force.
Deputy Commissioner Douaherty in
sists that the arrests of Rosenberg and
Horowitz were brought about exactly as
described by MIN, ara That liars are at
tempting to discredit the splendid work
done by the detectives. The John Doe
investigation will show. says Mr. Dough
erty, that the police acted honestly.
eapably and intelligently. Detective
Michael Meyers. one of the captors of
Lefty and Gyp. testified Yesterday in the
. John Doe inquiry. II is not known what
Detective Meyers said before Justice GoT
but before going into the Justice cham.
bers he said
The arrest OF Gyp tho Blood and Lefty
} Louie was brought about by me and a,
my own expense. ! kept two stoo
pigeons for three weeks in cafe or
Grand street. about block from where
Lefty's family lived. knew that he ano
his wife frequented that cafe
!, II knew the people with whom they
known Gyp and Lefty since they wer.
boys. In fact ] introduced Gyp TO tn.
/ girl he married. With two stool pigeon,
r and very clever girl who lives in Harlem
and whom ! induced to accompany tn,
' stool pigeons ! overheard many thing,
a. to the whereabouts Of the fugitives
, caught scraps of many conversation,
about them.
The stool pigeons reported to m,
nightly and at once turned over wha
information ! had acqhired TO Com
missioner Dougherty, The arrest wa,
brought about just as Mr.. Doughert,
, says, by piecing things together and Will
additional information that PERSONAL,