The sun., 1912-08-01
LAWYER SAYS SCHEPPS
MAY GIVE HIMSELF Up
No Immunity IL He Pulled a
Trigger at Roscnthal
Killing, Though.
ROSE WILL TELL MORE
Advised to DO SO by His Coun.
sci, Who Expects Becker
to Confess.

| Bernard Sander, lawyer Of q,
Broadway. who cahcd at the Dis,rIc,
Attorneys office yesterday and said hs
had been retained by the family of Sam
Schepps, declared he thought he would
be able to surrender Schepps. lie said
he did not know where the man wa,
but expected to be able 10 carry on
negotiations with the family which
would result in schepps giving hImscl,
up.
Mr.. Sander said that he had asked
the District Attorney about immunI,v
for Schepps and had been told by Mr.
Whitman that no man who had pulled
trigger at the murder OF RoscnthaI
would receive immunity. The LAWYER
said that he expected to produce Schepp,
just the same. and appeared to be Of
the opinion that he could prove that
Schepps had not fired shot In front NJ
the Metropole.
James NJ. Sullivan. counsel for Jack
Rose. will advise his client to tell every.
thing he knows about the whole gam.
bling situation when called upon 10 d,
NO. Rose was one Of those whose tcsti.
mony before the Grand Jury brourh,
about the indictment OF Lieut.. Becker
In talking over the case YESTERDAY
Mr.. Sullivan told Of the confidence which
his client had felt after his arrest thstha
was secure from possible conviction. Tia
lawyer found Rose particularly optinls.
tic on one of his visits just befors
Rose decided to confess.
Rose said that he had been told tba,
there was nothing on him" and that
all he would have to do would he TO sIt
tght. He expressed himself as fccjnr
very much better over his situation
The lawyer. who had had bettcr
opportunity than his client uf knowing
now things were going in the investira.
tion. remarked that IL all Rose wanted
was TO dream he had better try mor.
pnine or cocainc---tliat they would ho
as useful In saving him from the chair
as the optimism that had been ins,illcd
into him. ''
cuiiivan then went on TO urge his client
not 10 take upon his own shoulders r,.e
sponsibility which Rose privately had told
MN should rest on others. They won't
thank you for II when you've gone TO
'hs chaI. was the gist of the argument
Mr. sullivan. basing his belief on the
information he has obtained from h,s
cient and others. repeated Yesterday
MS op'nion that Becker would W., toll IN,
wno'e story and obtain degree of clen,-
ency. The murder Of kosenthDI in Mr.
Su'iivan's estimation. was in itself ths
result OF a arowamong persons whose ways
OF getting living had made them vir
,ua'iy outlaws. The lawyer for Rose
considers the av"neing Of the killing of
nosenthal . minor matter co,npared In
Rettng az the root OF the situation viii h
caused that killing
" becker does decide to tell what la
SHOWS about gambling in New Norh.
Mr. sullivan says. il will be in spite oi
strong urging and whatever Influence
can be brought TO bear on the lieutenant
70 Keep his mouth shut and thereby save
others. Judging from the optimisti,
way IN which Rose situation was painted
70 MIN. Sullivan does not doubt that
becker Will be- told that II he will only sion
the scandal from going further h. him.os
vii! be in no danger.
no request for the appearance Of Rig
JACK Lelig has yet been made TO his counsel
eH-City Magistrate Charles q. r Wahle'
,, Dmt II was reported yesterday that alr.
whitman would make such "a request
as soon as he had finished ,ip With sons
other witnesses. Judge Wahle repeated
Yesterday his statement that he will pro-
duce Lelig at any time he ia desired.
Judge Wahle also wanted to correct
any impression thai had got abroad that
ne mad told District Attorney Whitman
or others that Zelig knew anyihinc about
the murder of Rosenthal Although
Judge Wahle has not seen his client sin -
the latter's release from the Tomb. ON
bail. 1t is his belief that Zeig know,
nothing about the killing Xelig's nams
was brought into the case by Rose.