The watchman and southron. [volume] (Sumter, S.C.) 1881-1930, 1912-07-17


We continued our investigation
after that, and it was after that We
took up other features Of it. We sent
Mr.. Reid from Atlantic City"
Didn't We call upon Senator Till
man in his office at the capitol?"
Yes, SIR"
And ask him if the interview was
correct?"
Yes, SIR"
Il then said: Senator. have a
very great admiration for YOU and Won
owe it 10 the people of South Caro-
Ina to live up to the utterances you
have made and that have Mr.. Burns
here to substantiate it,"
That's correct"
He said he was satisfied with it?"
Il think his expression was Just as
Col. Fielder has said that if we had
the evidence to substantiate the
charges We had heard then he GER
tainly thought that Gov. Blease was
rot entitled to the confidence Of the
people Of South Carolina"
State to the committee the name
under which Mr.. Bailey operated in
tie city Of Charleston and the State
Cf South Carolina"
Wilson. My instruction to Mr..
Bailey was to go into the community
and use the subterfuge Of wanting to
start high class gambling place,
where it would bring people from all
parts Of the country in a crooked
gambling scheme. The people who
were to go there would never get
away with their money. He was only
to play with men with large money,
and that he would have to be abb
solutely protected; he didn't want to
invest his money unless he had alb
solute protection. He did that, all but
open the gambling house. Many peo-
pie do not agree with me in using
those tactics. We are perfectly justi-
fable in using every subterfuge in or
der TO determine whether or not they
are the character Of men they are
charged with being"
How long did Mr.. Bailey, alias
Wilson. remain in Charleston"
He was there a number of months;
!org time, and a. you say he spent
a lot Of your money"
Question by Mr.. Cary: Mr.. Burns.
enlarge on this interview with Senator
Tillman. The evidence that you sub
mitted to him, was it satisfactory to
the senator in taking a decided posi-
tiOn?"
NO. we only gave him verbal ac-
count of the situation and did not
submit To him any written evidence.
Col. Fielder told him what we had and
what we could show. Col. Fielder
asked me if that was right. / am sure
the senator will tell you exactly what
he said to us. My recollection is that
he said if We could substantiate the
charges We related to him then GER
tainly the governor Of South Carolina
was not entitled to the confidence of
the people,
Question by Mr.. Evans: Would
this evidence connect i'm any way the
present governor with the affairs of
the State dispcnsary?"
III r<,l N.lx a n
To him covered the whole situation" "
Question by Senator Clifton: MIR.
Burns, did your investigation. and the
reports made to you by the invcstiga-
tors under your charge show whether
or not the present governor of South
Carolina was guilty of grating. either
aS governor or State senator. i'm con-
nectiOn with the old State dispcn-
Sary?"
IL would prefer that You wait until
yOu get the reports on that"
"Rcports made to yOu will show
that?"
"YcS. SIR
"Will show the present governor
has been guilty of grating. either a.
governor or state senator. i'm cOnncr-
tion with the liquor laws of South
CarOIina?'
YES, SIR
The above * the official report of
the stcnOSraphcr of the committee.
y great many citizens in those sec