The Detroit times., 1912-11-04
ALLIES PRESS WAR
DESPITE TURKS APPEAL
tcontInssa from Poe. oasl


to persuade Turkey TO open negotia.
lions In the form demanded by the
allies or to agree on joint action by
the powers and then overcome the
allies objection TO outside interior.
ence by resort 10 force.
From the latter method the chan
cellories shrink Russia, at the very
outset, Il was agreed by those who
have taken part In the discussion
here, would take the allies side.
Probably this would mean that the
other powers would have TO discipline
the allies and Russia, too. This 10
the sort OF complication European
statesmen have feared all along and
are still desperately anxious to avoid
Indeed, as Russia's friends, England
and France could hardly consent 20
such a program at all.
IL Turkey will ask the allies them
selves for peace, II was suggested,
the powers can nevertheless worm
themselves directly into the negotia-
lions as the Eultan's advisors, and see
TO II that the victors do not get too
much--at least this Is what they hope.
Even Austria. II was believed, would
consent TO this arrangement SO long
as Its own interests would not be en-
dangered, OF course, however. the
moment the allies undertook TO ex.
tort from the sultan any territory
which Austria itself wants. Il would
protest, and IL disregarded, push
troops across the frontier and seize
what II claims. declaring war on the
allies.
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peril, but one which will not be rend-
cred any greater by adoption OF the
only course which seems likely to
bring about accusation OF the present
struggle Immediately.
Diplomats were inclined to smile at
the Turkish assertion while admit
ting defeat in the southeast, that the
Ottoman troops are defending them
selves with success In the enyirons
OF Scutari and Janina." In comparison
with the disasters with which they
have met between Adrianople and
Chatalja, 1t was remarked, the few
instances OF the successful resistances
they have made In the west amount
TO no more than few drops In a
bucket OF water.
BUDAPEST, Nov. 4.-Military ex-
perts estimated today that at least
10000 men have been killed and
wounded In the Balkan struggle thus
far.
II was admitted that the estimate
was a rough one. The fighting has
been too much Of scramble TO make
accuracy possible. Communication in
the Balkans, always uncertain and
slow, has been almost Frustrated by
the war. Hospital services have
been OF the most primitive descrip-
ton. Each side has minimized its
own losses and exaggerated its en-
emy's.
Still, 1t was believed the estimate
would not prove wrong by many
thousands. n anything, IL was erred
on the side OF conservatism.
The heaviest slaughter has been in
the vicinity OF Kirk-Kilissa and
Adrianople, Lule-Burgas. Kumanoya
and Scutari
At Kirk-Kiiissa and Adrlanople the
authorities believed the Turks lost
about $4,000 and the Bulgarians 1000
men. The figures, OF course, include
both killed and wounded.
In the fighting at Lule- Burgas and
during the Turkish rout which follow
ed It was guessed that the Turks lost
10000 and the Bulgarians about 25,-
600, again including both dead and
At Kumanova the Turkish loss was
placed at 1000 and the servians at
5 900.
Around Scutari the best informa-
ton was that the Turks have had In
the neighborhood of 5000 shot and
the Montenegrins twice as many.
BERLIN, Nov. 4.--Either by ex-
or capture, the Bulgar-
ians today had practically cleared
Turkey of Ottoman troops
down to the last line OF defenses 80
miles west of Constantinople, accord
ing to reliable information from the
field Of the Balkan war.
How large proportion of his army
OF approximately 100000 men Maxim
Pasha succeeded In getting back TO
and behind the Chatalja fortifications
was not positively known here, but
authorities said they would
be surprised II he saved more than
half his force.
While the Turks main strength at
Lule Burgas was still fighting, the
were crumpling up the
east wing In the vicinity OF
Visa and striving to get between Lule
Burgas and Constantinople, so as TO
cut on the army's retreat. Until full
details have been received, II cannot
be told how well this attempt sue
ceeded.
Turkish reports that the Greeks
were meeting with vigorous opposi-
ton In their march on Salonika ap-
peared today to have been. like so
many Constantinople rumors, wholly
baseless.
The news that the Salonika author.
tiles had decided to surrender as soon
az the Greeks arrived came from
Salonika itself and was accepted as
authentic A Greek force under
Crown Prince Constantine at latest
accounts was at Jenidge, only rs
miles southeast OF II.
Several other Turkish towns were
reported to have fallen into Greek
hands over Saturday and Sunday, In
GLIDING Prevesia on the Gulf OF Art,
where the Greek feet made its first
demonstration directly after the war
began.
II was said the crew of the Turkish
torpedo boat destroyed by the Greek
ships fire of Prevesia, escaped.
OF the operations Of the Servian
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