Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-07
FISHER GETTING AT 7HEFACTS|

! lHS Jus EOuTCe. 4 VIII recognize tuIs
! just as far as ] can" He declared
: that statements made in the open
/ should be given more weight than
those made in private or anonymous
! ly. #.,. /.
He said he did not know just how
| long the hearings might last He said
! he wished the hearings TO be as in
/ formal as is consistent with orderly
! procedure, and wanted them to be
| effective and speedy as possible.
This is public hearing" empha
sized Mr.. Fisher, and the public il
welcome" He asked the general pub
/ lie to attend the hearings from day
( to day.
Mr.. Fisher then opened the hear
! ing by asking Kuhio to say anything
he wished to. as the initiative rested
! with him. Kuhio, however, said he
would rather have his attorney speak
for him, and az Mr.. Ashford was i'll,
Kuhio said he would prefer to leave
his statement for Mr.. Ashford to
make.
= Kuhio declined 10 MAKE any state
! ment when called upon by the Secre-
taTy. Governor Frear, called upon,
said.
Il have nothing to say at the pres
ent time. Charges have been made
against me: ] prefer they should re-
peat those before ! speak. =
Kuhio, asked for a statement of
what he Thought should be the admin
istratiye policy of the Territory, an
swered: Il am not prepared"
Fisher read part of Kuhio's charges,
and asked. Are you willing to make
a fuller statement on this subject e
Fisher: "One OF your questions Is
sea transportation as well as land. Are
you any more able to make a sugges-
I ton on transportation now than when
you made this statement
"Yes, am, but prefer to leave that
to my attorney to state.
Fisher then mentioned statement
of Kuhio on demonstrating which he
said was not quite clear to him.
IL / remember, you approved slim
ulating immigration from the main
land, but no prejudice against develop
ment of local homesteading I'd like
your fun views.
MY attorney viii state my full
case"
Kuhio declined to answer further
questioning, and the Secretary said
he appreciated the situation.
Fisher: Il am told some of the men
I've summoned state they have to
leave the Islands in asfew days. Mr..
Carter. believe, is one of these"
Mr.. Carter was called for, but was
not present.
Mr.. Tenney Mr. Hackfeld and 9TH
ers were called for. Mr. Tenney was
found present.
i. M Swanzy, present, was asked:
what do You think any governor
OF these Islands could do and ought
to do. so that we might find proper
one:"
Il don't think you'd find one on this
earth" Swanzy said, after expressing
profound preference for Governor
Frear. He said that the land question
is the great question here. The
demonstrating question we have al
ways with us. he said. There are
all kinds OF land here: irrigating is
the great problem. demonstrating is
largely held back by nature. because
Of the great cost Of furnishing irriga-
ton.
MY personal opinion" said Mr..
Swanzy, ds that the homesteading
theory is very we'll in theory, but
very different in practise. He spoke
of the difficulty Of handling. unirri-
gated lands on q small scale as a
rock in the path of the homesteadeT.
Sugar. pineapples. coffee and rice,
In the order named, he said, are the.
principal products of the Territory. He
told of the contract planters, explains
ing the system. &.
That work in connection with sugar
cane is work that white men will not
tackle, he declared, ard said that was
true without exception. In this coun-
try white people win not do the work
because 1t is too severe, he said. They
would direct operations. They prefer,
II they want to farm. to go to the
Coast.
The work of planting cane and rails.
ing for a mill is not work In which
white men will engage, he declared.
do you make that statement with
out any exception? ?" asked Mr.. Fisher.
Without any exception" said Mr..
Swanzy. THE reason is perfectly OBJ
vious If a man is farmer, a real
farmer, she prefers to stay in a coun-
try where he can do the work all the
year. Down here, the white men will
direct operations, but they will not
do the work themselves.
Mr.. Swanzy said the policy on the
governmental Glands was serious ques-
ton. Asked as to his personal views,
Mr.. Swanzy said he thought the gov
eminent ought to hold lands for leas-
ing and thus derive an income.
He. said he thought the homestead
ing policy of the government is not
the best, but approved of the leasing
system, where the government might
have steady and large income.
Asked about the transportation ques-.
ton, he said he could not see that
the Governor had any more to do
with lnter-Isiand freight rates than
the President of the United States has
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