Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1912-02-18
have every Conversation
VOLUMES or RECORDS HAVE
BEEN SECURED IN THIS
a. MANNER.
CONSPIRATORS FOUND IT
Government Attorney Told About II
After Being Convinced IL Was
of No Further Use.

INDIANAPOLIS, Feb. 17.-What-
ever Frank M, Ryan and other In
dicted union officials have said In
their Office about the dynamite con-
spiracy since last October Is alleged
to have been learned by the govern
ment through a report today
A phonographic device hidden un-
der a drawer In a desk about when
RYAN, tho president, Herbert D.
Hocl5in. tho secretary treasurer
and ]. r. Butler, first vicc-presiden'
and other officers conferred concern
ing their defense pleas, is said to
have enabled two government steno-
prophers i'm room below to take
daily reports Of the conversations
The use of the device was disi
cd today when the government de-
cided 1t was no longer Of value, be-
cause woman clerk in Ryans or
flee was heard to say, "Well, | sup
pose they are hearinls now whateVei
we saw" That with statements py
RYAN convinced Assistant Distrlc'
Attorney Clarence Nichols that tho
machine was no longer useful.
Photographic Device Hidden in Desi
The phonographlc device was hid
den in The desk once used by d. D.
Mcnamara. the dynamiter, and upon
which he is alleged to have arrange
his alarm clock scheme for regplat-
ing the time at which bombs were 10
explode.
Discovery of the machine followed
ssoon after the government had re-
ceiyed limitations that some of the
defendants were ready ito tell al
thev knew" about District Attorney
Millers office it was said something
had been expected" but Mr.. Miller
declined to say what it was.
Mr.. Miller said the device had work.
ed satisfactorily for many months
and many volumes of stepographic
notes had been taken and would be
used in the trial. The instrument
WAS still' working today when the
following was recorded:
"Woman's voice: l wonder II one
Of those wires goes to the jail ana
whether they are listening to Us
now?"
Voice-"I suppose so. wish |
could find out where that sounding
board is?'
Hockin-"Say, Ryan, do you know
what dlctagraph looks like?'
About AS Big As Hat.
Ryan-"Its about as big as a hat
I am told, but never saw one.'
Hockin-'I hear there is one on
exhibition in this city and j believe
/ will go and take a look at IT."
After that Mr. Nichols said he had
no doubt that Ryan knew of the die
tagraph.
AS further showing the operation
of the dlctagraph. Mr.. Nichols gave
out a sample of a conversation known
TO have taken place last Wednesday
soon after the arrests were made
"Hockln-"Go right in, boys. III
be there in minute"
Voice-(Evldently reportdr) VIII
all these men be able to get bond?'
"IfoclSin-"We hope so. but wo
have no no money to furnish"
Voice-"How much money is thsre
in the iron workers treasury"
Hockin--"About $4,000 / think
Voice--"By the way. is McNam-
aras picture In this group?"
Hockin-"Yes, that's him right
there"
Voice.---'Ts It your Idea the govern
ment will pay the expense of these
men coming to Indianapolis in March
for arraignment?"
"Hockin-"Well. now, that puts an
idea into my head; ] hadn't thought
about that. 1t beats the devil how
there are so many things to think
about. 1t seems the government
ought to-
Ryan Was Told of II.
Ryan was then told there was
dictagraph In his office. He consent
ed to have his informant search the
office.
A quick examination Of Ryan's
desk exposed the annunciator hank
ing by its wires against the back
wall Of the desk directly beneath the
top. Dlsconnecting the apnunciator
was shown to Ryan and then carried
away.
What do you think Of that?" said
Ryan. How did they get In here?"
When told that records had been
taken of conversations in the office
last October. Ryan said tho govern
ment must have transcript Of many
canversatlon between officials Of the