The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-11-01
CLAIM M'NAMARA PLOTTED AGAINST DETECTIVE BURNS Testimony Is Given in the Dynamite Conspiracy"
 Trial DYNAMITE AND FUSE EXHIBITED IN COURT Claimed J. J. McNamara Has Wanted to ''Get. Detectives Since He
 Has Been Confined in
 San Quentin Prison
 


 Indianapolis. October S1,-That John j. McNamara, the dynamiter, since his imprisonment in the state penitentiary at San Quentin, Cal. has plotted to get" William J. Burns. a defective. and also to get Walter Drew. who worked up evidence against him, was the sub conspiracy" trial today.
 The story as related on the witness stand was that Herbert S. Hoekin, who went to San Quentin last spring, and that McNamara, while in conversation with him through the bars of a cell. said: "Id like to see them get Burns and Drew" It was further related that Hoclxin confessed to the incident and charged he heard labor leaders in San Francisco repeat MaNamara's $ wishes.
 As tending to sustain the story, package was produced in court and identified as having been taken from the check room of the union station at Indianapolis May 8, last When opened before the jury the package was found to contain 40 feet of fuse parcel of dynamite caps and an alarm clock. The package was wrapped in a San Francisco newspaper of April 13, 1912.
 Brennan Tells of Plot
 Edward j. Brennan, an agent of the department of justice testified the. al- legged plotting was related to him by I1nGkin Brennan said thai m g7 last, he was called into the district at torney's office in Indianapolis and there Hockin had confessed to him in sub stance as follows
 Hockin had gone to San Yuentin and had talked to McNamara. McNa- mara said, I'd like to see them get Burns and Drew Hockin then went to San Francisco and met Olaf A. Tveit- moe, a prominent labor leader Tveit- moe urged Hockin to remain in San Francisco until Anton Johannsenn, an other labor leader, could be called from Los Angeles. This Hockine consented to. When he was going to the station to return to Indianapolis, Tveitmoe, Johannsen, man named Lewis and Theodore Yoell accompanied him, Jo- hannsen saying on the way Mac (mean- ing McNamara) is anxious for them to get Drew and Burns Johannsen then added to Hockin. After you return to Indianapolis a strange man will ap- pear on the scene. You will know him when he says I am Arrow not Darrow When he says. those words to you, you will know he is the right man
 HOckin Meets Stranger
 "Hockin did return to Indianapolis and short time later he was called on the telephone by a man who said, I am Arrow not Darrow.' Later he met the stranger and procured a good description of him. The man brought a package which he left at the Iron Workers headquarters.
 "A few days later Walter Davis, a member of local iron workers union in New York city, came in. Hockin gave him the package, saying: Take that out of here and get rid of it. Davis re- turned with a check from the union sta- ton. Hockin then took the check to District Attorney Miller. Later Fred Sherman, an iron worker who is on trial, came in and asked for the check. Hockin pretended he had lost it. Another time sherman returned and said: Say, that man says you're a liar and a crook. meaning Hockin had not lost the check" Brennan testified that was all Hockin said he knew about it.
 United States Marshal Edward H. Schmidt was called upon to produce the package referred to in Brennan's testi- mony. Schmidt opened the package, identified the fuse, dynamite caps, alarm clock and the date of the newspaper in which they were wrapped. He said the check for the package had been delivered to him by District Attorney Miller
 Judge Scents Danger
 Judge Albert B. Anderson at first ques- toned whether it was not dangerous to have the fuse and caps in court, but afterward allowed them to remain.
 Walter Drew, who lives in New York, recently was d witness and testified that Hockin repeatedly had warned him that the fellows on the Pacific coast were after him
 Drew as counsel for the National Erec- tors association, was on the trail of the dynamiters before the McNamara broth CTS and Ortie F. McManigaI were ar rested, and Burns was present in h. dianapolis when Samuel Gerber, local detective, personally took John J. Me Namara in custody. Burns accompanied McNamara when James Hosick. an agent of California. took the prisoner to Los Angeles.
 J. A. G. Badorf. who testified that Hockin confessed to having tipped off the identity of the Los Angeles Times dynamiters, was cross-examined this af- ternoon by Senator J. W. Kern. counsel for the .defense.
 When Hockin told you he had gotten in touch with Burns two weeks after the Los Angeles explosion. did he tell you how he did it?'' Badorf was asked
 No, he did not tell me how. I told him he was fool for allowing Burns to get a reputation as u detective on in- formation he was furnishing
 Did Hockin say he was guilty of dy- hamiting?"
 He said he thought he might plead guilty and gave me to understand he was in for it. He said he thought all they could give him was eighteen months or two years"
 Badorf was then asked whether Frank M. Ryan. president of the International Association of Bridge and Structural Iron Workers was not in the habit of signing blank checks. The defense is that Ryan signed many checks in blank and dil not know to what use McNan1ara put them. Badorf said he did not remember telling Ryan that that was a loose way of doing business.
 Hoclxn is secretary of the union and occupies the desk formerly used by Me Namara.
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