The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-08-24

What dld Mr. Rogers say about
the Hartman contribution"
"He thought the Hartman confirm.
tion had been paid just as MIR Hartman
said it had"
"Did he know anything about itgH
81 do not know how much he knew. Irc
always talked about it"
Did he claim to know anything about
Il think he did; yes. sir"
What did he CLAN to know about It,
"He claimed the contribution wa. n,,I
| as MIR. Hartman stated
Mr.. Archbold added that he himself
! talked with Hartman
What did he tell YOU about IT 2"
"He told me just what | said
"What did he tell you?"
THAT he had made up this contribution
and IL was made just III the line of tho
request which is published"
O, Did you or tho company ever rcrc,,c
any letter or message from col loosc,cr
thanking you for your contribution?
We did not
q. Or expressing qualification at tt. hay.
ing been made? A. We did not.
Never Sent q Letter.
@. After the campaign was closed. i'm.
mediately after the election, did Roosevelt
express any appreciation? 4. lie had eyl.
IDENTIFY concluded even before the election
that another course would be more popu.
lar on his part and he threw an anchor 10
| the windward evidently II ~ In true tha,
he wrote Mr.. Cortelyou, rs he is now say.
| ing he did.
O. I simply asked whether or no, yol
| or your company ever received any letter
| from him a. Oh. no. sir. we never re-.
| ceived any letter from him.
y. When was Mr.. Roosevclts change OF
| attitude toward the company first mani
tested? a. can say u was FIRST mani
| Tested in his alleged letter 10 Mr. Cortel.
you, which was written, n ] remember
| rightly, or was claimed to have been
| written. under date of October 20
Mr.. Archbold said he and II. II
| Rogers spent an evening with Pres.
| dent Roosevelt at the White House
| about year after the election.
He thought II had been an interesting
fed over the result. There had been soms
criticism made with reference TO the con.
tribution, but he said that could not be
avoided. That was the general line Of
the talk. He made no specific reference
to our contribution. and OF course we did
not. We would not. under these circum.
stances"
Penrose On stand.
Senator Penrose took the witness chair
under oath. after Mr.. Archbod had been
heard. He verified the statements made
byMr. Archhold that Standard Oil officials
feared after they had declined to give
up the $3.50. 600 for the Roosevelt campaign
that they had made serious mistake
Il know that the feeling existed ~ that
time" said Mr.. Penrose, that perhaps
this action exposed them to retallatory
measures. the theory being that il threw
the powers that he. az Mr. Archhold e,-
-. ...xl
they were rendered immune, while the
Standard Oil Company was made the
goat, az the common saying is. in order
to get popular acclaim
Senator Penrose swore to all of the
statements he had made in the Senate
in his speeches in the last two days and
declared that he not only believed that
the hearsay evidence which-}<e had pre-
sented was true. but he had acted abso-
lutely on the theory that it was true.
Senator Penrose charged that the letter
in regard to the $25,VOO contribution
which had just been published, if it Wore
bona fide. had been held in the hands Of
bold's letter file since 1904. He said II was
being thrown out at this time in an eflort
to blackmail him politically.
Sets Earlier Date.
Senator Penrose set the date when Mr.
Bliss first made his appeal TO the STANDARD
Oil much earlier than Mr.. Archbold. The
latter had said about September !, Sen
lator Penrose said his recollection was tina;
Mr.. Bliss had asked the Standard Oil for
financial assistance about week after
the National Committee had nominated
Mr.. Roosevelt in June.
Mr.. Penrose verified several of Arch
bold's statements and said Mr.. Archbold
had told him back in 1904 that the board
l e 4 i Ia.
national campaign unless they were As
sured that there would be no secrecy and
that their contribution would be known
to Mr.. Cortelyou and Mr.. Roosevelt and
would be accepted in the proper spirit.
J MIR, Roosevelt's name was specifically
! stated to me. said Penrose, "and 1t was
represented to me by Mr. Archbod in the
} declined to consider the proposition Of
a contribution unless they were assured
that Mr.. Roosevelt and Mr. Cortelyou were
advised of it and in entire accord with
receiving it,"
! y Mr.. Penrose said that there was a gen
eral assurance in the talk with the Stand
, ard Oil official that the machinery oi
the PRESIDENT ial Office would not be used
in harsh way for demagogy effect The
assurances. Mr. Penrose said, were given
by Mr. Bliss.
~ Mr. Penrose testified that he was pres.
/ ent at a talk between Mr. Bliss and Mr.,
: ArChbold.
Says Bliss Named Names.
1t was distinctly stated by Mr.. Bliss,
said Penrose, that both Mr.. Roosevelt
and MIR. Cortelyou had been fully adviset
of the first contribution and were eI'
tremely solicitous to have Mr.. Bliss
request complied withfor the second con
. tribution. Mr.. Bliss in supporting hr
: request for the additional contributor
: distinctly said that the matter had heer
taken up with Mr.. Roosevelt and Mr.
> Cortelyou. He distinctly representa-
= that they were in entire accord with th'
request and that they would appreciate
I 1t, and my recollect ion is that at thai
time he suggeste ed he would be glad tc
} have Mr.. Archbold come down thel'
. and see Mr.. Cortelyou about it,
Senator Penrose said that MIR. Arch
. bold remarked to him after the STANDARD
. Oil directors had turned down the Request
! for the second contribution: i thms
our people are making a mistake. thms
this will be the cause of trouble for us,
Senator Penrose acknowledged that no
; had no talk with Mr.. Cortelyou during tne
campaign in regard to contributions. lie
had, however. discuss q campaign con
/ tributions with Mr.. Roosevelt in very
8 general way and had never had any reason
to suppose from any of his expressions tna'
3 he was not thoroughly familiar with the
, financial assistance that the Standard VI
, Company had been in the habit Of extend
r ing at least since 1896.
Talked Over Contribution.