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El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28
FINED FOR KILLING
DEER OUT OF SEASON
Douglas Man Is Arrested on Complaint
of Officers Of the Forest Service
and PAYS q Fine.

of Officers Of the Forest Service
and Pays Fine.
Douglas, Ariz., Oct. 2S.-In an action
recently brought in the justice court
Of Douglas against E. c. Wills for
illegal killing OF two deer before the
opening Of the season, the defendant
pleaded guilty and was fined $50, which
he paid
E c. Wills, who IS a resident Of
Douglas, at the time he killed the deer
was camped with a number of friends
in Morse canyon on the west side of the
Chiricahua mountains.
The defendant stated that while out
hunting squirrels and doves, ne sud
denly came across two deer which he
killed with a single shot
Later he and several of his friends
were arrested by an officer of the
Chiricahua national forest, who re-
ferred the matter to county attorney
Gilmore, by whom the action was init
ated which resulted in the conviction
of the defendant.
We have some bargains IN heavy tim
bers. Lander Lumber CO.-Adv.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28
TRATNLOAD OF CATTLE
SHIPPED FROM BIG SPRING.

Big Springs, Tex, Oct. 2S.-A train
load of cattle were shipped out of here
to Oklahoma parties. They were twos
and threes.
f. Nv. Douthit has sold 1S6 head Of
calves to Otis Chalk
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28
CURRY COUNTY GETS
READY FOR ELECTION
Commissioners Issue Proclamation Des-
fEnating Candidates and Voting
PIaces-ROnds To Be Voted.

Clovis. n. NJ, Oct 29.-County com
missiOners OF Curry county have issued
an election proclamation designating
the time and places for holding the
forthcoming election and the candidates
for congress and presidential electors
One represent native in congress and
three presidential electors are to be
chosen A bond issue for 100000 also
is to be voted on for the purpose of
constructing and maintaining system
of state highways in New Mexico.
constitutional amendment to section s.
article q, viii also be voted upon
The Democratic ticket to be voted
follows:
For representative in congress: Har-
vey B. Ferguson, Albuquerque n. n.
For presidential electors: =. c. De
Baca, East Las Vegas, n NJ; j. H
Latham, Lake Valley, n. NJ Samuel D.
Stennis jr., Carlsbad, n. NJ
The Republican ticket is:
For representative in congress:
Nathan Jaffa, Roswell, n NJ
For presidential electors: Levi A
Hughes, Santa Fe. N NJ Eufracio
Silver City, n. NJ.
Progressive ticket: For representa-
tive in congress, Marcos c. De Baca.
For presidential electors. Elmer E.
Studley, Ration. n. NJ; Dora Frazier
Thomas, Roswell. n. NJ Geo. ". Ar
milo, Santa Fe, n. NJ
Socialist ticket: For representative
in congress, Andrew Eggum, Roswell
n NJ
Fore presidential electors: Walter
Cook, MagdeIena, n. NJ; De Roy Welch,
Norton, n N; W. T. Holmes, Farming
Voting Places.
Precinct No. 1, in Clovis; precinct No.
2 in Texico; precinct No 3, in Black
tower; precinct No. 4, in St Vrain; pre-
cinct No. 5, in MelrOse; precinct No. s,
in Fields; precinct No Z, IN Grady;
precinct No. 8, in HOlIene; precinct No.
9, in Clovis; precinct No. 10, in Claude;
precinct No. II, in Legansville.
S D. Stennis, of Carlsbad, n. ", the
Democratic nominee for presidential
eIector, addressed an audience at the
county court house. He also addressed
the railroad boys at the shops.
Clovis Gazette is the new name T. J.
Mabry has given his new paper to be
published in Clovis within the next
ten days or two weeks. Mr.. Mabry
has returned from Dallas, Texas, where
he went to purchase the new equip
ment for his printing plant.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28

FERRY RIVER, FOUR DROWNED

Belvidere, n. J., Oct. 2S.-FOur
members of an automobile party
bound for Shawnee, Pa, from their
homes in Noble. Pa, were drowned in
the Delaware river while being ferried
across from Delaware, n. j. The dead
are: Mrs Leon II. Gilbert. Miss Re
becca Tyson, Mrs. H. W. Trump, Leon
Gilbert, Jr., years old
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28

BATlTORHEA DEALERS SHIP CAT
TIE To FORT WORTH. TEX
Balmorhea Tex Oct 26.-J. X
Webb left for Fort Worth with three
cars Of calves for McCutcheOn Brothers
H H. HazelwOOd has gone to Fort
Worth with twelve cars OF cattle for
Mr.. Casey.
El Paso herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1901-1931, 1912-10-28

We have some bargains IN heavy tim
bers. Lander Lumber CO.-Adv.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
HOW HISTORY IS DISTORTED
Russian Textbook Shows Curious In
stance of Tampering With
French History.

Reasons of church, state or other
policy have frequently caused the
scholars of one country to tamper with
the history Of another with which it
has been intimately connected. A
curious instance OF such distortion
of French history was that found in a
Russian textbook, used in all Russian
public schools, and edited by great
Russian scholar, Ilovaish. The fol-
lowing may be. cited u an illustra-
ton:
Louis XVI. was a good and peace
full. king. After a long and famous
reign, in which he was most happy in
his choice of minister of finance, he
died quietly in Paris, beloved by all
his people. His death was caused by
a hemorrhage.
"The successor of Louis XVI. was
his son, Louis XVII. During his reign
the brave royal army, commanded by
General Napoleon Bonaparte, captured
the larger part of the European con-
tingent for the French crown. But
, the faithless Napoleon showed ten
denotes toward misusing his power,
and was suspected of harboring dis.
honest schemes against the legitimate
ruler. With the help of his majesty
the emperor and autocrat of all the
Russias, his plans were frustrated, and
he was deprived of all his posses
sion8, honors, and rights to pension.
He was then exiled to the island OF
st. Helena, where he died."-The Sun
day Magazine.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
RESPITE THREE. MINUTES LATE,
Four Men Hanged in Chicago Just Be.
fore Court Granted Stay.

Chicago. - Five mlrderers were
hanged in the county Jail here while
arguments which ended in the grant
of respite for four of them convicted
of numbering one man were being
heard in the Superior Court
Ewald and Frank Saiblawski, Philip
Summerling and Thomas Schultz We're
hanged for the murder of Polish la
borer.
The four men were executed in
pairs. Three minutes after the first
two had been pronounced dead bail
III rushed into the Jail with a summons
for the jailer to go the court. The
jailer accepted the service, but refus-
ed to delay the executions.
When the respite was granted The
four were already dead They were
convicted of numbering Fred Guilgow,
Jr., a farmer, in order to rob him
Thomas Jennings, negro, the first
man ever convicted OF a murder on
finger-print evidence In Cook County,
was hanged on the same gallows. The
FIVE executions took place within two
hours
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Steel men WILL
FIGHT FOR LIFE
Declare Tariff Reduction Would
Spell Only Ruin.
ALL CLASSES WOULD SUFFER
So Say Pittsburgh Manufacturers Who
Will Offer Before Senate Finance
committee-Danger of compe-
titon to Be Emphasized.

Pittsburgh, Pa.-The question OF
foreign competition, which is certain
to develop if the portective tariff on
iron and steel is removed, will be ex-
planned by leading manufacturers of
the country before the Senate FL
nance committee. This body is now
considering the iron and steel sched-
ule already passed by the House of
Representatives at Washington, d. c.
While every reason why a high
tariff should be preserved will be pre-
sented to the committee by the steel
men when they are heard, it is be-
lieved the foreign competition phase
will be emphasized as the most ur-
gent reason why the tariff bars should
be raised, instead OF lowered.
Pittsburgh manufacturers are pre-
pairing to enter into the tariff strug-
gle with a determination and vim and
a half dozen of the leading manutac-
turers, headed by Willis l.. King OF
the Jones & Laughlin Steel Company,
are preparing to go to Washington
and testify before the committee.
The Pittsburgh manufacturers will
try and prove to the committee that
it is impossible now to compete with
ioreign interests on the Pacific coast,
and that if the tariff is lowered, the
foreigners will invade the eastern
and southern coasts as well. Ger
many will be exto!led as our strong
est competitor now in the iron and
steel export trade, and China will
probably be upheld as strong COM
petitor of the future.
The hearing in Washington is
scheduled to begin Tuesday morning.
The Pittsburgh manufacturers are
more aroused over the present tariff
situation than ever before, for the
reason, they declare, that the life OF
the iron and steel industry in the
Pittsburgh district is at stake.
"Aapparent," said one of the steel
men, "some of the members of the
committee do not realize what re-
duction in tariff would mean to the
manufacturers of iron and steel. 1t
would be ruinous.
IF you strike a blow against the
iron and steel industry, you will find
that every other industry will suffer
as we'll cut in tariff would mean
a general wage reduction. A reduc'
ton in wages would naturally mean
that the workingman would be unable
to live upon the scale he has been
enjoying. As a result the farmer,
the grocer, the meat dealer, the
clothier, in fact, men in every line
of business would suffer.
Il doubt if the American workman
would submit to a reduction in wages,
This should be made plain to the
senators. ! am sure they have no
desire to inlict hardship upon the
workingmen, but if they reduce the
tariff, that is Just what will happen
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
TO LAUNDER PAPER MONEY
Indiana Man Devises Machine That
Will Wash and Iron Soiled
Bills.

It costs the United States govern
ment one and one-third cents to manu-
'acture a 81 bill. When the bill be-
comes soiled through continual han
Hing it is sent to the treasury depart
ment, which destroys it and issues a
lice new clean bill in its place The
same may be said Of all other paper
currency of large denominations
Now comes a Shelbyville, Ind, In
7entor. f. b. Churchill. with a ma
.hine for washing ironing and other
wise laundering paper money Accord
ng to the Inventive Age, Washington,
he treasury department redeemed
I11S3,OOO,OOO in soiled bills last year
aud issued new ones in place of them.
Eighty per cent of the bills might
lave been washed at a cost of one
.enth of cent per bill and reissued
At a considerable saving in cost to the
treasury department
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
NO A!NSWORTH
COURT-IMARTIAL
Adjutant-GeneraI Of Army Re-
tired by Own Request.
HAD, CRITICISED SUPERlORS
Accused Of Impugning Motives Of Sec
retary Of War Stimson as Well as
Of Chief Of Staff Wood in Vari.
Gus Memoranda.

Washington.-Hopes of Washington
sensation lovers that the WOODLANDS
worth controversy would be aired in a
court-martial of the former Adjutant.
General of the army following his re.
lief from office were blasted by the
announcement that Gen. Ainsworth
had applied for and received retire.
ment from active service in the army.
AS far as the army is concerned this
action ends the whole matter. Gen.
Ainsworth is now retired officer and
no longer under orders from the War
Department. He will not be tried by
court-martial and no charges are pend.
ing against him He will retire with
the rank of Major-General, with pay of
$4,000 year instead of with the rank
and pay of a retired Lieutenant-Gen.
eral, as was the Hay plan.
General Ainsworth was removed by
Secretary of War Stimson in obedience
to an order by President Taft
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
A Statment of T. d. Collins in Regard to
the Proposed Dam Near the Mouth
of Tionesta Creek.

river and Oil City would be deprived Of it,
In its place Oil City would have the water
coming from hundreds of miles above,
which in low water would naturally carry
all the filth the whole distance This con-
dition would result In epidemics and
diseases and would naturally cause the
death of hundreds, yes, even thousands of
human lives
All the property between Tonesta and
Pittsburg, including Oil City, franklin,
and also the Pennsylvania Railroad from
Tionesta to Pittsburg, would be lessened
fully fifty percent in value on account of
the dam breaking and destroying them,
without saying anything of the thousands
OF lives it would take with the property.
who are these people asking for this wat.
er righl? Are they citizeus of Forest coun-
ty? No. Do they own any property in
Forest county No. Are they interested
in any way in Forest county? No. Have
they ever done anything to build up Forest
county? No. Who are the water commits
siOners? Are they citizens of Forest coun-
ty? No Do they owu any property in
Forest county? No. Are they interested
In any way In Forest county? No. What
have they ever done to build up Forest
county? Nothing. What are these people
asking for? They ae asking for water
right that will cever at least one hundred
square miles of the most valuable part Of
Forest county. They are asking that this
county donate them one-half the value of
said county inasmuch as the law Is that a
corporation of this character does not. pay
either township or county taxes, but state
tax only, A lso they are asking that the
business men of this submerged area, who
have been in business year after year even
to half century shall sacrifice all for a
nominal sum. Farmers who have been
raised In this section whose homes are. dear
TO them, as dear as those of Acadia at the
time Of the English Invasion, must give up
their property for a nominal sum, which
the appraiser might name, and be driven
away as wild Indians.
ConVdering the present and future pros
poets % this valley, the financial loss of
business men and property. owners who will
>be forced to leave their homes, the health
ofOil City and other tows along the Allie
gheny valley, should sWch dam be built
with the possibility of the awful disaster
which might result from the breaking of
the dam. 1t is utterly impossible for the
human mind mind to conceive the agony,
terror nd magnitude of such disaster.
1t would be better for Almighty God to
cause the arm to be paralyzsd that to be
guilty of signing charter granting the
rights which would cause such disaster.
= Yours truly,
4. ID. COLLINS.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21

Col. II. P. Mccain, acting Adjutant-
General, was placed in charge after
Gen. Answorch's dismissal from that
Office. =. o.. 4
The cbargNs aeaiNA Ainsworth were
the outsOAe OF long. g.smothered i'll
feeling between the Acknowledgement
and his former Fellow army doctor,
General LeenardAWoed, chief of staff,
Stimson and Wood, >tcih Republicans,
are violently arrayed lsLnst the Hay
bill for the reorganization of thAarmy.
Ainsworth, Democrat, has been do.
ing his utmost to secure its passage.
AinswOrth's iHtimatiel that Stimson,
General Wood and. other men high in
authority in the army are ."incomPe.
tent amateurs" particularly 'enraged
The Secreary of War, and he comes
back with language almost as intern
perate as that he quotes FROM the Ad.
jutant.General.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Is Direct MayfIower Descendant.

Erie, Pa.-Mrs. Thankful Durant
has just celebrated her one hundredth
birthday here at the O,d Ladies
Home. She is a direct descendant of
John MetCalf, who came over in the
Mayhower, and was born in Middle
field, Mass, February 16, 1872, COM
ing to Erie after her marriage. Her
only surviving relatives are two
grandchildren now living in PhiladeL
rhia. Her husband and two children
are long since dead and her only sis
ter, Mrs. Mary Smith, died recently
at MeadyilIe. aged 1O3 wears.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
CHICAGO FLYER WRECKED.
Three Killed and 50 Injured on Penn.
sylvania Express.

Harrisburg, Pa.-The Pennsylvania
Limited, eastbound, one Of the fast
Chicago-New York fliers, was wrecked
at Warriors Ridge, four miles west Of
Huntingdon.
A dining car and eight steel Pullman
sleeping cars left the track and plung
ed down a thirty foot slope to the edge
of the Juniata River.
OF 1O2 persons aboard three were
killed and sixty-seven injured, several
of them seriously. Thirty or more Of
the injured were taken to the Blair
Memorial Hospital at Huntington.
The dead are; Harry A. Nauss,
New York city; Mrs, ], +. Taenner,
Cordova, ILL.,; Mrs. Hall, colored, ma
tron on Pullman car.
The wreck is to be carefully studied
by experts, as it is the first big smash
up of a modern all steel train.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
FOREST COUNTY OFFICERS.

Member of C0ngreSS-P. M. Speer.
Member of Serldte-J. X. P. Hall.
Assembty-W. J. Campbell.
President Jttdge-W. d. Hinckley.
Associate Jtldges-Samuel Aul, Joseph
M. Morgan.
Prothonotdry, Register & Recorder, DO.
IS. Il. Maxwell.
Sheri6-Wm. II. Hood.
Tredsurer-W. II. Brazee.
Commissioners II. Harrison, j..
G. Scowden, II. II. Mcclellan.
. District AttOrney-M. A. Carringer.
jury Cbntn,issioners- b. Eden, A. NJ.
Moore.
Ooroner-Dr. M. @ Kerr.
County AUDITORS George II. Warden,
A. G. Gregg and S. V. Shields.
County SltT1eyor-Roy s. Braden.
County iSttperintendent-J. o. Carson.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
EIremen Prevent Spread Of Blaze.

Ambridge, Pa.-One man was In.
Jured in a fire which gutted the paint
ing and shipping departments of the
National Metal Moldng Company's
plant, here Saturday afternoon. The
companys fire department and two
companies of volunteer firemen from
Ambridge prevented the flames from
spreading. The loss was $4,000.
Sam Carriabis, an employe of the
company, while fighting the fire, fell
from a ladder and sustained a fractur-
ed right leg. He was taken to the
Sewickley Valley hospital at Sewick.
ley.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Man and Wife Found Asphyxiated.

Erie, Pa.-The bodies of Ii. j. Cra-
burn and his wife were found in their
small work shop Saturday morning.
They were asphyxiated and had been
dead f6r several hours. From the
position OF the bodies the police be
lieve Mrs. Craburn was first to be al
tected and that he had attempted to
carry her from the building and fell
with his burden to the floor where
death overlook both A small gas
stove without a chimney heated the
room, and 1t is though consumed all
the oxygen. Mrs. Craburn often
helped her husband in the shop. They
We're about 60 years of age.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
OFFICER APPARENTLY IN BAD.
Convicted Of One Offense and Held
for Others.

Washington, Pa.-Harry ]. Smith, a
Pennsylvania railroad detective Of
California, Pa, and John w. Sarver, a
constable of Monongahela, Pa, were
found guilty Saturday of highway rob
berry and were Immediately sentenced
to not less than one year nor more
than five years In the Western Peni-
tentiary. The plaintiff was Charles
Croft Of Coal Center, who alleged
they held up and robbed him near
Coal Center about six weeks ago.
The convicted men were taken to
Jail to await trial on other charges.
Smith is to be tried on two charges
of assault and battery and one charge
OF impersonating an officer, Sarver
is to be tried on charge of forcible
entry,
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Famous Annual Excursion Feb. "a

Pittsburgh, Pa. - The steamer
Queen City will start on her annual
excursion to New Orleans and tn
Mardi Gras on February "a. The
Queen City is due to arrive in New
Orleans March 2, and lays over unit,
March 5, arriving back in Pittsburgh
Saturday evening, March l6. About
100 passengers are booked.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Church and sabbath school.

Presbyterian Sabbath School at 9:46 a.
m. M. Il. Sabbath School at 1000 a. IN.
Preaching in M. K. Church every Sab
bath evening by Rev. W. s. Burton.
Preaching in the f. M. Church every
Sabbath evening at the usual hour. Rev.
q. A. Garrett, Pastor.
Preaching IN the Presbyterian church
every Sabbath at ll:O0 u. m. and 1880 p.
IN. Rev. Il. A. Bailey, Pastor.
The regular meetings of the W. q. T..
U. are held at the headquarters on the
second and fourth Tuesdays OF each
month.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Ereeport. Pa. Can Issue Bonds.

Freeport, Pa.-Judge Willis d. Pat
ton of Kittanning has refused to
grant an injunction to Postmaster
Robert b. Thompson of this place. to
restrain the Freeport borough coun-
ell from issuing $4,000 worth of
bonds authorized at a recent election
for the erection of new town hall.
The case was really brought by the
borough council in the name of Post.
master Thompson to secure a final de.
cision on the matter.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Had!ey Heard 1000 Miles Away.

New Haven, Conn.-Sitting in the
lilhary of his home here, President
Hadley of Yale talked 1000 miles by
telephone Saturday night to the Yale
alumni in Chicago, assembled for their
annual banquet. A telephone eXten.
sion was placed at the plate of each
diner.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
GEN. AINsWoRTH OUT,
Unusual Eequel to Bitter Feud on
Army Reform.

Washington.--Major Gen. Fred G..
Ainsworth, Adjutant General Of the
army, was relieved from duty under
charges by the Secretary Of War
amounting to conduct unbecoming an
officer and gentleman, and by order Of
President Taft. This unprecedented
step means that Gen Ainsworth is to
be tried by court-martial and is now
theoretically under arrest for insubOr-
dination.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
Watch Runs Over 100 Years.

Whitesburg, Ky. - After ticking
faithfully for 1O6 years, during which
period it accurately has kept the
time for succeeding generations in
one family, a watch belinging to
John w. Wright, has just been re
paired here for Abe first time in its
existence, and st bed on another cen
tury.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
LIMITED mo. 5"
AGAIN WRECKED
Flyer Westbound Crashes Into
Work Train.
FOUR KILLED, MANY INJURED
Accident Due to Fog Which obscured
Trackman's Sgnal-No Passen-
gers Injured-Sixth Death
From First Wreck.

Larwill, Ind.-Four men were kill
ed and II were injured Saturday
morning when Pennsylvania limited
train No. 5, westbound dashed into a
wreck train here. No one aboard
the limited train was injured except
a baggageman. The wreck was due
to the fog which was so denCe that a
flagman sent back from the wreck
train was not seen by the engineer
of the limited. The wreck train had
been stopped by a trackman who re-
ported a broken rail ahead and while
the investigation was in progress the
limited dashed into the caboose of
the train ahead. The wreckage
caught fire and two of the dead were
burned almost beyond recognition.
Two or three of the injured may die.
The dead are railway employees and
all lived in Fort Wayne. Among the
passengers on the Pennsylvania linn
tied was Clyde H. Tavenner of the
sergeant-at.arms' office OF the House.
He was taking the body of his mother,
who was killed in the wreck of the
Pennsylvania limited at Huntingdon,
Pa, to Cardova, H., for buriel. Mr..
Tavenner, who was in the Hunting
don wreck telegraphed here that he
again had escaped uninjured.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
BOROUGH OFFICERS.

Btuyess.-J. G. Dunn.
Justices Ofthe Peace-C. A. Randall, ID.
w. Clark.
COitncltmen.-J.W W. Landers, j. T. Dale,
G. b. Robinson, VIM. Smearbaugh,
r. ]. Hopkins, G. f. Watson, A. b.
Kelly.
Cbnstdble-L l.. Zuver.
COLlector-W. II. Hood.
School DirectorS-W. @. Incl, j. X.
Clark, s. NJ. Henry, Q, Jameson, d. IL.
Blum.
The Forest Republican. [volume] (Tionesta, Pa.) 1869-1952, 1912-02-21
One Risk Sufficient

Marks-It you had to live your life
over again would you marry the same
woman? Parks-You Just bet I would.
l know what she is, and women are.
too uncertain for me TO experiment.
with another one.