The Sentinel=record., 1912-08-15
SChEPPS TUFkED OVER ID OFFICERS
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CONTINUED FROM PAGE ONE. ] they went first to the office of Acting Mayor Petit, and then to Fostmas- ter Fred Johnson, where it was agreed that Sehepps would be turned over, but there was lack of assurance that Mir Rubin was MT Rubin or that Mr stewart was Mr Stewart It was as. sumed by Johnson and Petit that there would be a recognition between Schepps and the officials from New York, which would complete the iden- tification of Rubin and Stewart. Just why Messrs. Rubin and Stew art came on here from New York after a prison without any form ot official paper or method of making themselves known officially, further than their words as to who they were was explained by them in the hurry of taelr departure It was intended that they should have gotten out Of New York secretly and without their departure getting in the hands of any olner person than the district attor- ney.
 Mayor Petit, former City Attorney Stallcup and Postmaster Fred John son, together with a representative of the Sentinel Record, stepped into the room where Schepps was held by Captain George Howell of tAe police department, who had held him since his arrest.
 I Rubin and Schepps looked square ly at each other. Sehepps stepped forward. Who are you?" he asked Rubin.
 H Why, l am Rubin from the dis trict attorneys office in New York. l Well, where are your papers, said 1 Schepps white with anger and ex- citeinent
 Well, l haven't any papers, Schepps, for understood you wanted 10 go back to New York as a state witness rather than to be forced back into New York on a criminal charge"
 T don't know a damn thing about , you. Who the hell are you, that you think you are going to take me away from here without something more l, than that?" demanded Schepps. Assistant Attorney Rubin attempt- ed to quiet Schepps fit of anger so that they might discuss the situation quietly, but this only resulted in an- , other outburst of profanity from Schepps. who insisted that he had never seen two men like Rubin and Stewart in New York.
 Say don't turn .ne over to these fellows" schepps said to the post master How do you know but that when they get me somewhere in New York state they will turn around and look uD at some tall building while some other parties take men away and l won't ever be found No, l am not so afraid of beng murdered; 1t isn't that. but am afraid that might be snatched away and sent out of the country, and don't want that to happen"
 Scheeps bluffed so frantically over the possible idea that Rubin and Stewart might be imposters that a message was sent to hurry out a tel egram to New York for an accurate description of Rubin, to the New l York American, which came back within a short time, and positively identified Mir. Rubin here as the Mir. Rubin of New York Mir Rubin is not an ordinary loorung man, anu there was no question of the identity after this message was received.
 That is sufficient to me- said Acting Mayor Petit, and Postmas- ter Fred Johnson
 Mir Rubin explained to Schepps the status of affairs in 4New York. There he could be used as d free will wit ness, if he was not indicted or charged with crime. but if he was, and turned states evidence. his tes- timony would be less valuable for the state.
 The testimony this man has got 10 give to the state is all that will save him from punishment. and if the evi dence is voluntary it might cause him to be given freedom while if it | is involuntary it might be worth only a compromise of taking a term of 1 imprisonment.
 ! Mr Rubin quietly informed all that he would wire for an indictment against Sehepps within a short time f he (Schepps) did not give him an answer that he would return volun- tarIly with him, and then Mir. Rubin went away to lunch.
 W hlie away rom the hotel he sent several messages 10 District Attorney Whitman informing him Of the status
 Of affairs. and securing In return in structions from the district attorney as to how 10 proceed further MT Rubin stated it was optional with him
 whether he stayed here several days awaiting requisitlon papers or
 whether he went immediately back
 ani with this stand from Mir Rubin,
 Schenps went persistently away to d
 corner of the room
 guess We are not in any hurry" ? said Sehepps This looks good to
 me, and ] guess won't hurt myself
 staying here just as long as they will
 let me"
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