Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-10-01

Flsner: by Wnom was he employed
Governors. BY business interests in
town.
Fisher: Well, who would be the bus.
mess interests who would want Co
partnership enterprises in relation to
lands of this character?
Governor: Probably those interested
in plantations. OF course, this is only
hearsay.
Fisher: Well. was it a planters as
ISOLATION committee or a committee
of a business mems organization, or
iwho was it?
Governor | don't know whether IL
was an organization or individual cor
| porations.
Fisher: Do you know who intro
duced the bill into the Legislature?
Governor: No, do not; but | could
find out by looking at the House Jour
| nal
Ashford: My impression is that Mr..
Thurston Will know all about that, as
it is generally known that Mr.. Thurs.
ton was at that time, together with
| Mr.. H. p. Baldwin, interested in q
large area OF land on Maui, ultimately
| involved.
Fisher: Now. Governor, will you
have the records examined by Mr..
Courtenay or some one. so l. may
know who introduced that bill in
either or both Houses.
Governor: l. will do so.
Olson: It was introduced either in
the 1903 or 1905 session.
Fisher: / would like to see the
statute, too. Mr.. Hemenway, have
you it there?
Mr.. Hen1snway: No, 1 haven't it
here. tGoes out to get copy of the
statute). Z
Governor l might refer briefly to
those lands5at Waialua to which Mr..
Goodale testified. Did you see the
map yesterday? (Shows the map.
Some so years ago the lands were
laid out on each side, of this deep
gulch. The survey went to the edge
of the gulcb leaving these precipitous
sides of the gulch as government rem
nants. The plantation applied for
these and at first the surveyor re-
commended that we do. not take the
matter up because the costs of the
survey would perhaps equal the value
of the land and accordingly we pro-
vided that the applicant should have
the survey made at his own expense
in addition to paying the price of the
land. An application was also made
for this land in several large tracts.
/ state that We would not put it up
that way, but would divide it up into
lots so as to give others an oppor-
tunity to bid for them if they wished,
and this was done. The gulch along
here is about 500 feet deep and has a.
slope of perhaps about 450.
Fisher: What was the price that
was paid for the land; have you look
ed up the records since yesterday?
Governor have. The plantation
offered $3.50 an acre for what was
classed as waste land; and Mr.. Good
ale says $3.50 was offered for what
was classed as cane land. l think
that was correct. Then the govern
ment raisedsthe price of cane land to1
$4,000 an acre; and after that had
been decided orally the different
companies put in special applications,
that is, individual applications, for
each lot. Here is sample of one
application. Breads from applica-
tion) For 1.60 acres of cane land at
$50 an acre, or, $4S.00. For the 4S.40l
acres of waste land, at $3.50 an acre,
$121.00, making total of so acres, !
or $4,000, and giving the full de-
scription. | might say that the sur
vey made by the plantation was then
submitted to the Territorial Surveyor,
who checked it over and made var
ious corrections, and returned it. tol
the plantation for further survey.
Fisher: Did the Territorial Sur
veyor go on the land?
Governor: / don't know whether
he went down ON the land, but he |
checked over the surveys already in
his office.
Fisher: 1 don't think we need any
further information on that point. But
would like to know whether Mr..
was in error as to the $1,000
or not.
Governor: These applications were
written by Mr.. Wheeler as shown by
his initials &c W." on the applica-
tons. Mr.. Wheeler was then Mr..
Goodale's stenographer.
Fisher: Iooks at statute which
is handed him by I1emenway) This
appears to have been passed
in 1903.
Olson: That is correct.
Fisher: The stenographer will
please note the following in his notes:
Section 1851, and also the following
section (Section 2632) of the Revised
Laws. Will you just see that they are
copied into your records?
Governor: l have advocated in my
administration, and have established,
/ marketing bureau, demonstration
arm, homestead centers, increase in
for homestead roads.
Fisher: Will Mr.. Starrett be here?
Governor: He will be here on We'd
lesday.
Fisher: You can now take up spe-
.ifics matters and go through them.
Governor: There are two other rail-
Dad naftorc which have hnon non- /