The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1912-04-10
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..tcI IteL ilSiI -IClIIS OU q pass - Ian
en- from the official s-enographeT's
notes as follows:
@. Did you make any investiga-
ton to ascertain whether the mem
bers Of that old board had charged
against sle State expenses they had
not really incurred?" asked Senator
Carlisle.
4. NO. sir" replied Mr.. Domin-
ick. Eve were informed by M
Stevenson at one o. the meetings
that We had Dr.. Murray before US
that he took the position that we had
70 right whatsoever under the Act to
Investigate any OF the acts and do
irss OF what is commonly known as
the Murray commission
@. The whole business, your COM
mission. the former commission,
seems 10 be under investigation
more or less. DO you know of any
sums charged by your commission
against the S-ate( sums that were
not actually paid out2" asked Sena-
tor Carlisle.
\. Not that I know" replied the
witness.
Q. Any mileage charged up that
was not Laid?''
4. NO mileage charged up. Ez-
penses were charged
A. ANY member of your commit
tee that didn't pay fare?''
A. travelled on a pass OF one
road
@. THAT is from Newberry to Co.
lumbia?"
A. " Yes. sir"
Q. Railroad fare charged on that
road?"
A. Yes
@. On the Columbia, Newberry
and Laurens?'
a. Yes, sir.
Q. '.Was that fare actually incur
red?"
Rode on Free Pass.
4. Here is the way Of considering
that. When | use mileage in a mat
ter Of that kind and charging up en-
pense account I charge actual rail
road fare, because when l pay $50 for
railroad books that money is tied up
fer a year or more before it is entire
II used. At Newoerry l am and
have been for several years past the
local counsel for the Columbia and
lNewberrv and Laurens Railroad Com
pany. AS q retainer I get a local
pass.
q am paid then for actual work
Just in accordance with bar fees in
Newberry. AS a retainer ! receive
my railroad pass, which is not free
pass, and 7 consider that just as
much my own private property as If
Mr.. Childs were 70 pay me retainer
fee for 500 or $500 per year"
Q. The only way you get any act
ual cash out of the railroad pass is
when you are travelling for the
state?''
a. when I travel for clients !
charge up railroad fare, in coming
here to argue cases in the Supreme
Court or have any other business
here"
Q. "Were any other members of
the commission similarly situated
with reference to railroad mileage OF
fare?"
A. 81 don think So" replied the
witness.
Witness took the ground that a
great part of the expenses paid by
the State should have been paid BY
Fielder as set out in the report, Of the
Blease commission. His construction
o. this matter was similar to that of
TIE witnesses Wednesday.
I.yon-HoIman Matter.
Mr.. Dominick told Of the employ
ment OF Mr.. Holman and Of the At
torney Generals refusal to consent
10 the employment Of Mr.. Holman
until the commission told him for
what purpose the commission wanted
to employ Mr. Holman; that the COM
mission didn't feel that they should
Go this, especially as they wanted Mr..
Holman in the Fielder matter and on
account Of the close relations Of Mr..
Fielder and the Attorney General they
did not feel that it would be just to
the Attorney General or to the COM
mission to ask the Attorney General
u undertake the prosecution of Eel
der. That they took the view that
they could employ any counsel they
wished. Witness said they employed
VT. Abney, and he considered him a
fine lawyer. Did not know whether
Mr.. Abney used the assistance Of
Fielder or not in making the settle
n,ent in the Richland Distilling Com
pany Ease; he did not think the COM
mission intimated to Mr.. Abney that
they did not want Fielder used in
any litigation that might be neces-
sary.
Witness thought the Ansel commits
sion lost some money to the State
by their construction OF the Fielder
contract in May, and that Fielder was
overpaid some $4,000; would
scarcely consider this construction
by the Ansel commission incompe-
tercy, but rather an error, and due
to advice Of attorneys.
Witness said that under the atti-
tude Of the Attorney General he felt
they were forced to employ an at
torney, but that they were not COM
PEELED to employ Mr.. Abney;; that
they employed Mr.. Abley because
o! his competency. Witness said the
attitude OF the Attorney General Of
fcially towards the commission was
cordial. and the first clash came
when Mr. Holman was emDlOyeG