Evening journal., 1912-04-19


day. But l knew we would be in ice
regions Sunday night some time"
"Did you have any conversation
with the captain or other officers 4e-
garding ice?"
Absolutely none." replied Ismay
Ismay said the wireless operator
sent the &C. @. D. call for help but
that he sent no message himself.
Were you on deck when the order
TO lower lifeboats was given2" asked
Smith.
81 heard Captain Smith give the or
der in loud voice" said Ismay. Then
] left the bridge. | saw three boats
lowered ] got into the fourth Peo-
pie we're put into the boats on the
deck and the boats were dropped into
the water. All the boats were on the
upper deck, | don't know how many
OF the crew were in each boat. There
were several in my boat, one quar-
termaster.
Women in Boat with Him.
Women and children first, was
the order given. 1t was followed so
far as II could be observed. About IS
passengers we're in the boat with me,
practically its full capacity. The first
three boats we're also well filled.
Was there any struggling or jost
ling or attempts by men to get into
the boats?" asked Smith. Significantly.
Il saw none fIsmay replied in
flower tone of voice, fiddling nervously
with his glasses 1--WE simply picked
the first women we could lay our
hands on / helped put some in my
self"
Smith then quizzed lsmay regarding
the report that the women we're sent
4 off without any oarsmen and were
forced to pull the boats themselves.
did you see any lifeboat without
its complement of seamen?"
None. that saw was underman-
ned"
1T is said that the women in the
second boat had no oarsmen and were
, forced to row from 11.3O at night until
dawn" Smith said
"Of that l have no knowledge" Is
may declared
Did you see any passengers on the
Titanic just before she sank?" asked
/, Smith
D 4 saw them but did not recognize
any of them.
"Did YOU see Charles NJ. Hays or
= know of the presence of any other
prominent American or Canadian on
the boat prior to the sinking?'
Il knew Hays was on board. but
did not see him"
Senator Smith then asked what
q were the circumstances under which
+, he left the Titanic
y Il was Immediately opposite the
:, last boat which the sailors we've try
II ing TO lower. There was untitled space
j. i'm the boat. The captain asked; Are
a there any more womeng There was
no answer The captain said There
are no more There we're no other
q male passengers on that part OF the
i ship Just before she was lowered l
p stepped in
e Ismav said he did not know where
k the Titanic was struck by the iceberg,
II but that he had been told It was be-
D tween the breakwater and the bridge
"a Saw No Struggle.
2, "All the men passengers, continued
., Ismay that saw we're 'proVide'
"a with life preservers. When ! enter
IL ed the lifeboat from the starboard sid'
there we're no other passengers II
- sight saw no struggle. no con
fusion. I saw no one jump into th'
~ sea from the Titanic. When the lie
~ boat struck the water we saw hgh
~ some distance off and we tried ts
Te make it. We we're in the open sei
din the lifeboat about four hours
10 There we're other lifeboats in that vi
D. cinity. We hailed one. but got M
Id answer. There were no RATS on board
ID the Titanic. Some years ago the
+ White Star Line discontinued theii
to use. considering them unsuited. There
ne were twenty lifeboats on the Titanic
IN sixteen wooden and four collapsible
TO When we reached the Carpathia VI
IN walked up the Jacobs ladder to th'
su deck do not know what happened
40 to the lifeboats. I did not look L
y see after we left the Titanic whethe
~ she had broken in two. I did no
~ look to see If there was a panic. Afte
~ ~ left the bridge I did not see th
captain"
~, Ismay was asked if the Titanic hat
% been equipped with her full compile
ment of lifeboats.
a. "She must have been" he replied
"or else she could not have sale
a from a British port"
ng There has been a suggestion" sal
or Senator Smith that there had bee
ls- an explosion before the ship wen
ed down"
Il know nothing Of It," replied Is
He may. "I would have known, I believ,
no had such thing taken place"
MS He said that had the Titanic struc
C. the iceberg head-one. in all huma
probability she would be afioat toda,
OF "The ship was especially construct
ne ed so as to float with any two of he
compartments full OF water be
.n ~, lieve very few ships today would floa
- under this condition. When we bui
l., the Titanic we had this in mind.
Ne Before Ismay concluded his length
nv explanation Of how he left the Titanl
70 Senator Smith put rhe question (
law him fatty and brutally.
Were all of the women and chi
dren saved?"
ce- The financier looked down, fiushe
and replied in lower tone:
d." Il am afraid not"
an What proportion was saved?
ere I don't know"
ute Captain Tells of Rescue.
og Captain Rostron, in plain, sea-goir
on terms told of the turning Of his We