New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-05-14
CONFER ON SUbWAYS
WITHOUT AGREEMENT
P.S. c. and Board of Estimates
Committee Spend All Day
to No Purpose.
PETERBOROUGH OFFER WAITS
Possibility Of Withdrawal Stlrs
Up Lot of Acknowledging
and Conferences Are
Scheduled for To day.

Scheduled for To day,
After an all day conference yesterday
between the Public Service Commission
and the special committee Of the Board
Of Estimate, aided and abettcd by engi-
neers representing these two conferreeS
and the two transit companies Interested
Borough President McAneny asserted
fatty that things would not be in con-
dition by the time the special meeting OF
the Board of Estimate is called this al
ternoon 10 justify that body in passing
4 resolution accepting in even general
way the terms of the Interborough's
latest offer.
There will be a further conference Of
the commission and the committee this
morning. starting at 1880 O'Clock. There
will he also a meeting of the Public Ser
vice Commission. called for II o'clock,
noon, and a special meeting of the Board
OF Estimate. called for 80 o'clock TINS
afternoon In spite Of all these efforts
10 got together and to get the water
boiling under those subway eggs, IT
seemed as if the problems were little, If
any. nearer solution yesterday than be-
fore.
Tho suggestion of the lnterborOugh.
through President Shonts, that the city
would have to take some action "by the
early part OF this week or the Inter
borough offer might he Withdrawn
stirred up lot Of preliminary action, as
witnessed by Yesterdays conferences
and to-days schedule of meetings but
the points Of differences have not been
wiped out by all the talk.
Borough President McAneny with mis-
fellow borough presidents. Cromwell and
Miller, represented the Board Of Est-
mate at the conference yesterday. with
them was f.. T. Goodrich Mr.. Nc
Aneny's engineer. Alfred Craven, the
chief engineer Of the commission. was
present: the Brooklyn Rapid Transit had
w s. Mennen and J. V. Davies. of its
engineering staff and the Interboroush
William Barclay Parsons.
immediate Acceptance Unlikely.
At the end Of the Afternoon conference
Mr.. McAncny asked whether his report
10 the Board of Estimate would be ready
by the time the special meeting of that
body was called to order at 80 o'clock
this afternoon.
II don't know" he answered.
will matters advance 50 far that the
Board Of Estimate con adopt resolu-
+l,a In
terhorough Offer"
They will not" Mr. McAneny replied.
which seems to put the question back
50 Mr.. Shonts as 10 exactly how many
days constitute the carly part Of this
week..
The morning session Of the conference,
IL is understood. was devoted chiefly t.
the financial part Of the problem. Mr..
McAncny said the city would have ap
proximstel4>. S100,o0O.Oo0 at the outset
and would have enough to pay its share
IN the Development Of the dual system
within the FIVE years tho work will take.
1t was the general opinion that there
would certainly be enough money Tor
both systems.
In the afternoon the question of routes.
and particularly Of the tunnel routes.
showed the same divergence of views
that has characterized the negotiations
80 date. II was reported that Mr. Par
sons. representing the Interborough had
agreed 70 the proposition of tho Brook
lyn Eapid Transit that the latter should
have physical connection between
It's Manhattan Bridge lines and the
Broadwa line. at Canal street.
Chairman Wilcox objected TO this. adj
vanCing rs he has done before. the argu-
ment that to make such a physical con
nection would bring up again the Same
troublc with opera ton which is now
evident at 96th street. Vhcrc the tracks
cross on the same grade. It was re-
ported that tho Chairman's objection VAS
rSement. and. when asked about this
point afterwsrd, Mr.. Wilcox said:
Neither tho Brooklyn Rapid Transit
nor the Interborough can coercc me into
voting for lines which it wants, regard
less Of the interests Of the city"
Downtown Tunnels Obstacle
The downtown tunnel routes presented
an even greater obstacle TO agreement.
Chief Engineer Craven suggested a COM
promise on the question of tunnels, and
made it clear 10 the engineer represent
atives of the two transit companies that
when the Public Service Commission laid
out a route by which the Old Slip-Clark
street tunnel should serve both The
broadway subway OF the Brooklyn
Rapid Transit and the William street
extension of the loop it was perfectly
willing that another tunnel should mo
built for the Brooklyn Rapid Transit
from tho Battery 10 Atlantic avenue
That would, Of course. have 10 be left
Tor settlement later. SO far as could be
learned at the end OF the conferences
however. the suggestions of compromise
made no impression upon the represent
atives of the transit companies presen:
and the whole question Of downtown
tunnels was left over 10 be tackled again
this morning.
Until some definite agreement is ar
ranged as TO the routes and operation
of the downtown tunnels the general
question of accepting or rejecting the
lnterborough offer, put up to the :ity 10y
President Shonts. will have to wait.
AS the matter stood at the end If the
conferences yesterday. it is understood