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"Gyp" and Lefty" Arraigned
in Court, Plead Not Guilty
TO Murder Charge.
BACK TO THE TOMBS.
Their Wives and Mothers
Questioned at Length in
District-Attomey's Office.

Mrs. Herman Rosenthal. widow o
the murdered gambler. appeared In tn,
Criminal Courts Building, hea vily yelled
Just about the time the rumor circu.
lated through the building to-day tina,
she had moved from the house In Yves,
Forty-fifth street, where she had lived
with her husband before his death on
July IS. Mrs. Rosenthal was accom-
panied by one Of the District Attorneys
detectives. who escorted her directly to
the office Of Assistant District-Attor-
ney Moss.
After Mrs. Rosenthal had been clos
eted with Mr.. Moss for several minutes
she was taken by him to the cham bers
OF Justice Goff. There Mrs. Rosenthal
remained In private with the Justice
for ten minutes.
When she left the 1ustice's cham bers
she hurried away from the building
without speaking to any one. No in
formation as to the reason OF her visit
could be CLEANED from Mr.. Moss or
Justice Goff. but her presence revived
the reports Of the intimidation of witt
nesses who will appear In the Becker
trial. IL was said that Mrs. Rosenthal
had asked the District-Attorney's office
to lay the circumstances OF threats she
had received before Justice Golf, as
well As TO provide protection for her.
Investigation by The Evening World
shows that Mrs. Rosenthal moved
yesterday from the premises she had
occupied at the time of and after the
murder on West Forty-nfth street. Be-
forc leaving the neishborhood she paid
on grocery bills and other indebted
ness and also paid . bill of $50 to a
mechanic which had been standing for
some time before Rosenthai's death.
Mrs. Rosenthal stated to tradesmen
In Sixth avenue with whom she had
dealings that she was moving into a
fiat in Sevendcth street, between
broadway and Amsterdam avenue.
There Is no fiat house IN the street 10.
cation mentioned. Broadway and Am
sterdam avenue and Seventeen and
seventy-first street joining 10 form
Sherman Square.
In his days OF prosperity Herman
Rosenthal and his wife lived at the
Sherman Square Hotel. Mrs. Rosen-
thai Is well acquainted with that neigh
borhood. which makes peculiar her de-
scription OF the place to which she
said she was going to move.
Recently Mrs Rosenthal has been
paying on obligations and displaying
plentiful sums OF money 1t Is ex-
planned by her friends that she coll
lected 5000 life insurance after the
death OF her husband.
Lefty Louie Rosenberg and 'Gyp
he Blood Horowitx were arraigned De-
'ore Justice Con In the Supreme Court
o-day TO plead to the charge OF muir
iering Herman Rosenthal. The young
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MRS. SzAb0 TOLD
AFR|END GIBSON
THREATENED HER
Continued from First Pace
has gone away He did not say any
thing about her being dead.
TOLD HUSBAND SHE BELIEVED
WOMAN WAS DEAD.

Mrs. Stern said that at the time she
had premonition that some EVIL had
come upon Mrs. Szabo.
Il felt" the witness testified, that
she was dead and said to my hus-
band that night. i think that man has
murdered that woman and that her
body Is In one OF the trunks that he
had shipped to New jersey"
These were the six trunks that Glib
son had sent from sthe former abode of
Airs szabo at No. as West sixty fourth
street to his Rutherford home.
Continuing. Mrs. Stern described her
visits to Mrs. Szabo and her nego.!a-
lions with her over the purchase of
part OF her furniture She had read
an advertisement in the newspapers
inserted By Mrs. Szabo-ln which the
woman stated that she would sell her
furniture at a bargain.
when went to her." said Ms
Stern. she told me she was shortly to
cave the country. She wanted to get
rid OF part of her furniture then and
part later. When my husband drew up
he bill OF sale Mrs. Szabo said she
soIld not write or read English. Ny
husband wrote her name and she made
her mark under It."
At this time Mrs. stern was neighbor
Of Mrs Szabo ana she told OF the many
visits Of Lawyer Gibson to the Austrian
woman and of his stopping the post
man on the street and setting Mrs.
SzaOos mail both before and after her
death.
LAWYER GIBSON OFTEN VISIT.
ED MRS. SZABO.
II thought at first" she said. that
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AVS GIBSON MUST ACCOUNT
FOR The MONEY.

Charles Goldzier. tho attorney who
represented Gibson at the hearing be-
fore Surrogate Fowler. said to-day he
Gibson proved he had not misappro-
priated the 81 100 OF the Szabo estate
which he had drawn as executor and
for which he had refused to account to
the counsel for the Austro- Hungarian
Consulate.
Il have seen Mrs. Gibson" said Law
yer Goldzler and informed her she
must arrange with her husband to give
me satisfactory accounting OF this
money II they can satisfy me I can
satisfy Surrogate Fowler. and he will
consent to an adjournment OF the pro-
ceedlngs by which II Is sought to re-
move Mr.. Gibson as administrator OF
Mrs. Szabo's estate.
Several days before Mr.. Gibson was
arrested I met him on the street and
said to him: You ought to engage the
ablest criminal lawyer in this city lie
replied, Nonsense
Il said then: 1t looks certainly as II
you will be arrested
Impossible. he replied; II Is all
newspaper talk
They will arrest you and indict YOU
] said. and II they indict you you viii
have to face a trial. Take my advice
and engage the right kind OF counsel
Il have nothing to fear he replied.
They can't prove thing He seemed
absolutely confident at that time that
they would never get to the point Of
arrestng him."
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not connected with his interest, and az
h. wasn't public investigator he
dropped II. He had paid enough to sat
ssfy his curi0lty
But why did you start the investl.
sation?" persisted Mr. tiuckner.
IN tell you very frankly" replied
the witness that | have extraordinary
curiosity. | found out as much as I
wanted to know"
Did you turn your material over to
any public ofiicer?"
Il did not. | didn't have n compile.
chain OF evidence. II had turned
over the fact that Norton was friendly
with employees OF the Police Depart.
ment and didn't show he was consort-
Ing with others whose interests wers
against the police. Il would be OF no
use"
"Anybodye advise you to drop It,"
asked Buckner.
"oh. ] spoke to several people and
they told me | was going too far for
my own good" replied johnson.
did you talk to Commissioner
Thompson"
Yes"
"Dii he advise you to go ahead o.
quite"
II think he advised me to drop It,"
did you tell Commissioner thn'
you had Information about "A certain
man In the Police Commissioners of.
Nee" asked Ruckner.
Yves, I did" replied johnson.
Johnson explained here that the talk
with Commissioner Thompson was last
Thursday and not at the time he had
obtained the Norton Information.
lie was excused to make way for
Dan Kelleher an operative for Cam
era-Eye" Shcridan's detective agency.
Kclleher said Dec. 20. 1911. was the
date on which he nrst ran across
George c. Norton.
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gangsters stood side by side before the
rail- as Clerk Penny read the charge
and asked:
Which OF you Is Horowitz?"
"Gyp the Blood" elevated his right
hand in schoolooy fashion. II. l..
kringel, law partner of Charles q. +.
Wahle. counsel for the prisoners. said
he wished to enter a plea Of not guilty
In their behalf. The plea was accepted
and Justice Con remanded the young
men to the Tombs. setting no date for
their trial.
Assistant District-Attorncy Frank
Moss had a number OF witnesses in
court to identify the prisoners. Most
Of them were women from houses In
Williamsburg. where the fugitives are
supposed to have hidden right after
the murder and from the neighbor-
hood OF the fiat in Glendale. Queens
Borough. where they were captured by
the police last Saturday.
The wives or the prisoners and the
mothers OF the wives were questioned
at length to-day In the District-Attor-
ney's office.
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they wero lovers. He called on her 20
often aad seemed so attentive. Even
after he had sold me the balance OF her
furniture he came and got her mail
from the postman. one time l met Mrs.
szabo with tall dark mustached man
and Gibson. She said to me. indicat-
Ing the dark man: This is my lawyer
l said. I thought Mr. Gibson was your
lawyer; all your friends seem to be
lawyers She laughed at that and said.
Yes. that Is So
Mrs. Stern was then asked II Mrs.
Szabo had spoken TO her about hcv first
visit to Greenwood Lake with Gibson
three days before she died:
NO." said Mrs Stern, but she told
my heighbor. Mrs. Merritt. about It.
She said the boat tipped over and that
1t was lucky for her the water wasn't
deep as she couldn't swim. IL we
should tip over in deep water. she
said. i would be drowned.
Mrs. Stern said whenever she had
called at Mrs. Szabo's fla. when Gibson
was there the lawyer had slipped out a
back door as II he didn't want 20 be
seen. She said that when she asked
=.
Szabo's dresses. as she couldn't wear
them. the lawyer answered: oh. sell
them IL you want to. She won't need
them again"
THE INQUEST ADJOURNED
UNTIL OCT. 10.
After Mrs. Stern and Tiechmann had
testified to having been present at the
dlsinterment OF the body OF Mrs szabo
and to their Identification of the body
two grave diggers were called. When
they were excused there were no more
witnesses and the inquest was ad-
journed until Oct. 10.
This Jersey City inquest>is an I'M
usual proceeding because the alleged
murder OF Mrs. Szabo was committed
without the Jurisdiction OF the State Of
New Jersey. In commenting on this
before he began calling his witnesses
Coroner Houghton said:
'All We can do Ia go ahead and get
verdict from the jury already sworn
In. Then the action will be up TO New
York State. A certified copy of the
proceedings here and the testimony OBJ
tained can be obtained by the Orange
ny tHc CouiSti
for the accused lawyer. ! am holding
this inquest because the body was en-
humed and an autopsy performed with
In my Jurisdiction"
The latest discovery made by the
agents and detectives OF the Austro-
hungarian Consulate in their search
for the mysterious woman who posed
as Mrs. Petronella Menschik, alleged
mother of Mrs. Rosa Szabo, involves a
woman who was not only well known
10 Lawyer Gibson but allied to him BY
closer ties than any mere business ar
rangement. II the fact Is established
It will prove that the man accused OF
strangling his client to death Is one OF
the boldest criminals Of which there
q any record.
It has already been shown that after
the Greenwood Lake tragedy Gibson
visited two Mrs. Menschiks IN this oty
and talked to them about a VIII In
which they had been named as BEN
ficlary. 1t is presumed by the lawyer
accusers that ne was seeking to find n
real Mrs. Menschik. whom he coulc
use in probating the dead woman's VIII
and then, tf any question was after
ward raised, GEEK TO establish that he
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pllmen, him. Rei,h. on hi. work In that

pllnent him. Rei,h. on hi. work In tina,
connection.
We'll. Bin~hem didn't think I was
any good" told Busher.
"Oh. I know something about that,
come down and see me-" Bushsr told
him.
Reith said that when hs called on
Busher In response to that invitation
Bugher showed him a shelf Of letter.
that had come TO the Commissioner
about his case.
Most Of Thorn were anonymous"
Reith explained. but one was not.
That one waz signed By the initials
ID. q. s. which arc Dan sisttery's
initials. That note to the Commits.
sioner said that I was q shifting In
dividual and would bear watching.
Reith explained that on his visits to
Binshsm's once he had not Intended
to tell the Police Commissioner about
the 10000 promotion fec His only
reason for seeing Bingham was to ask
the Commissioners why he. Rsith, was
being Disseminated against
Does Waldo know that you didn't
tell BinEhan7 asked Buckner.
Il think So" replied Roth
Reith explained that Waldo helped
him to prepare his affidsvit.
Keith volunteered that he had not
visited Gen Bingham to toll him about
the $1,000 shake down." but to ind out
why he hadn't been promoted.
WHY HE DIDN'T PUT IT IN HIS
AFFIDAVIT.
Why did you omit to state that In
your afiidavit7" asked MIR. Buckner
III l had to do It over again 1 would.
didn't think OF It then"
I want TO say" the witness rambled
on. that ] never believed Mr.. johnson
or Mr. HAssett was going to get the
money, and think II was some man In
between. Mr.. Johnson and Mr. Hassett
In trying TO do a favor TO me were try.
Ing TO do him a favor too.
Who Ii the man In betwcen7' asked
Alderman Eeterbrook
i've been trying to ind out ffe Ave
years." replied Reith. who was doing
business. II was matter OF what YOU
might call public report that somebody
was."
Rei,h said q mysterior, schooinate
,.'' ", "a' s,sr'e' MI" o" the
= ~ NV en-" ol which nc ran against ,
" u'n" ior sio'""' Tie mann been !
ur"eu uo"h Tor promotion at that
time 1
Didn't you 20 TO Johnson with an
80 !" P"S money! asked MT Buck
49, 4
oi"h' nave 10000 or 10000 ;
.e"''
HAVE PAID $4,000 IF HE Il
. hAD
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~" ''' '"'' 'A'u
"cor,.t,,,.. 4,
.n,dn,, co., al, A.. , r
b., .o'"'o" 'our !
J, ,,ta. ""' "ohey IN the r
60 dia ,'n, 49,. "'"""
,,i,, .,.,,,n ~ : was
.o,,.,od,, -. 's "ayo"
an ma - "" 'o"' ~''o'" Win the
''v,vVV'
lou were wiiiing to let somebody 4,
else buy your promotion for you"
asked Alderman EsterhrooI
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:. BINGHAM ENTERS AND
TAKES A SEAT.

Former Commissioner Bingham en-
tered the room here and took q seat
near Mr.. Buckner.
did you get any further Information
along this liner" asked Mr.. Buckner.
II did not
u believe you are quoted as saying
yeu found one other captain who said
he had been approachcd7"
Il believe one captain told me he had
been approached by some persons"
''csn you recall the name OF that cap.
tain-by refreshing your memory"
Il cannot"
Didn't you think this af',davit was In
teres,ins-
'InterestIng. yes. but not valuable
alone. | was unable TO get legal cor
reborAtiou."
Ibid you tell the District-Attorney
about III"
II did not. II was OF no legal value
without corroboratioh."
Wouldn't II have been as well to let
the District.Attorney decide on that7'
There was nothing TO warrant asking
the aid OF the District-Attorney.
You got no other affidavits7"
"only this one. I would have allowed
that TO remain buried. but you called
for Il when ! mentioned II on the stand.
! don't believe In digging into former
officials and former administrations. I
Couldn't prove the afiidavit and did no,
act on II for that reason"
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ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT elNo
HAM WAS HONEST.

mo. that was before. In Blnshams
time I always believed that Gen. Bing-
ham was an honorable man and wouldn' {
take "a cent"
Reith then recalled that after Bing-
ham. during Commissioner Bakers
administration. Deputy Bugher had
c>arse Of policemen detailed TO cover
the parades. and took occasion to COM
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PROXY TOOK AN EXAMINATION
FOR CANDIDATE.

Gen Bingham went into some de-
tails of tho work OF Q bureau he start
cd to investigate police candidates.
Just before he was removed. he said.
he heard OF "a case whore a proxy took
an examination for "A candidate. got
the appointment and refused to give
II UP.
Alfred j. johnson succeeded Gen
Bingha mon the stand. He told Of
being In politics more or less directly
for twenty years. lie knew Reith and
also met Daniel q. Slattery. Secretary
TO Police Commissioner Bingham He
met Slattery In 1907, when he called
at Headquarters to see Gen. Bingham
about n process Then the Reith mat
ter came w.
"Reith was brought to me by some.
body. I don't remember who. and Keith
told me he was q candidate for pro.
motion and was afraid he didn't stand
much Of a show.
THAT day or the day foiliwing no
broached the proposition that those
things were bought and paid for and
thought he could get the money.
told him he was q fool
Gen. Bingham, | told him. couldn't
be reached. and n he gave his money
to anybody In the expectation that Il
would get 20 Gen. Bingham he would
be burning II up. Finally I told him
to keep out OF my office and out of my
sight"
johnson said he wasn't certain as to
details In the way Reith came to talk
about money.
"He didn't ofrer to pay me anything"
sa!d Mrs. Johnson. I'VE didn't get
very far"
IA
Reith 70 Hassett hut didn't know why:
that Re!th might have called at his
home. but he was sure he didn't ask
Re!th for any money,
johnson declared that the Reith case
was the only case where a police Of
ficer had ever come to him to get aid In
gaining promotion, As an old-timer in
politics, he said, he wasn't surprised that
a politician or any other man In the
city service or who aspired to the city
service SHOULD try to enlist the aid OF
old pOliticlans
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WONDERFUL UNDERGROUND
TELEGRAPH" HE SAYS.

II heard rumors where men were
asked for money. and ] heard where
men paid IT," tn ex Com mis- sioner
said. He declared the Police Depart
ment had the most wonderful "un-
derround telegraph" in the world and
that frequently word OF promotion
would be taken TO men who were abou.
to be promoted by outsiders.
II heard OF such a case" said Mr..
Bingham. where man. who was on
desk duty In a Queens precinct was
promoted to a captaincy. II leaked out
In some way. and a friend OF his got
him that day and said: We'll. I've fixed
II for you and you'll be promoted to-
morrow
lie was dead right and the man
was promoted. There II no telling how
such things get out. but they do"
TIL, cx-Conmissioncr said that he
had Instituted the practice OF making
out promotion lists by his own hand.
Even then, he admitted. word OF pro-
motions did leak out IN advance.
MIR Buckner asked Gen. Bingham as
to the work of the Investigation Blu
reaJ Of the Police Department. which
Bingham esta blished. This IL the bu-
rcau which has been abolished by
Commissioner Waldo at Mayor Gay
nor's direction.
Gen. Bingham taid that he had found
such a bureau great help In keeping
crooks on the force.
THE character OF the men. even OF
the huinblest and newest patroimen, is |
vital" he said. "and our bureau sup
pi, mented the work OF the Civil Service
pcopie"
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q - ~ = - - as.ly ~ -
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On shs list Of sAoss siigiSis for
promotion
THAT he thereafter msds two
applications 10 see the Police COM
missioner, ana failing 70 see him,
he wrote . letter sSking for An ap-
pointmsnt 20 CALL
THAT In NAY, 1903, on entering
the e9ios Of the Police Commits
sionsf. the Commissioner halted
him with the challenge
"'xow - - an dis.
eliminating against you~--
"Thas he Thea replied oourts-
ouslys
"fhat the oommissionss said he
was NOT standing IN the position
Of . soldier, and sAoussdi 'Yoa
think yor - - are .
mi-military body. You're all
law sivss power 70 promote whom
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AFFIDAVIT MADE AFTER JOHN.
son HIRED sLeuThs.

A. he concluded the reading Of the
sfYidavit Mr.. Buckner placed particular
stress on the date. Feb. is. 1914. The
emphasis indicated the Intention OF
counsel to the committee TO enlarge on
the fact that the affidavit was made
more than a month subsequent TO the
time when Alfred J. johnson had de-
tectlves shadowlng Mr.. sheehan. Com
missioner Waido's secretary.
when did you get the afiidavit7"
asked Mr. Buckner.
ION the day Capt Reith gave II to
met"
did you send for him7"
II did not
How ala he come to make the am
davitY'
He came to me and said ne had
knowledge I ought to have and was
willing TO make an appointment"
Did you send FOR any captains who
had been appointed over Reith7"
Il did. ! think I summoned ono
Morns and one vaughn"
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sAVs JOHNSON TOLD HIM
WOULD COST Sio.ooo.

johnson told me II would cost me
$1,000 or words 10 that effect.
That wasn't the nrst time ia been
approached. / hadn't been on the po-
lice three months when they asked $500
to get me on the Harbor Squad. Soon
after that my grandmother died and
left my mother little money. The
scouts heard about II and came around
with an offer 60 get me promoted to
. roundsman. pat up 500 IN the
hands Of man named Billy Kissene.
! was told 20 go down 10 see Chief
Conl!a, went but couldn't get In ana
! sat outside and Conlin came out and
gave mo a nod and walked on. Then
] went into the photograph bureau as
] knew a lot about photography. After
had been there a while l made a
move to get my money back.
Then i was summoned TO Conlin's
ofiee and he told me he was thinking
o: making me a roundsman. told him
] didn't want II. Soon after that got
some Of my money back"
"wss that during Gen. Binsha m .
timer"
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'elTH DROPPED HIS CAP ON
eiNoHAM's DESK.

u felt dizzy" said Reith. and |
TOOK my cap and dropped It ON his
desk, ana started for u chair"
The rest or the interview. Reith said,
was largely one-sided.
Under Buckners quixzing, Re,th
naively admitted that he knew that
Con. Bingham thought he, Keith. was
y crook. That came about he said
because he had the record OF HAVING
arrested more p.ckpockctr than any
other man In this department, ana that
combined with rumors In the depart
nient that no was a wealthy man. laid
him open to the name Of being a crook,
EVERY detective 10 thought to be
crooked" said Reith. and when that
produced laugh In the Aldernanic
Chamber he added: II tell you. Mr..
buokner' you've got 70 get thief 20
catch thief"
Reith explained. whom that resulted in
wave or laughter. that he meant tina.
detective got the name Of being a
thief because he had to associate with
thieves.
II knew Bingham though, I was. A
CROOK, And II was beoauRe some one
was knocking me, and | wanted ,n
straighten out the knock n I cou,1
That's why kept In touch with john.
SON."
As 10 how he knew B!ngh am thought
him crook Reith said:
"Oh the Police Department In the
greatest body Of correspondents on
earth"
Rsith denied that Bingham had ae.
cused him Of being mixed up" with
pickpockets and declared he didn't know
what mixed up meant in that connec-
ton.
In
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was deceived and mlsled. He failed II
his negotiations with the two Mrs
Menschiks. and they were the onl,
women of that name that the police Of
Pinkerton men have been able to 10
cate In Greater New York.
THEORY OF THE PROSECUTION
IN olssoN's CASE.
The prosecution will seek to show
that the lawyer was In desperate meet
Of money and that he took an amasingl,
bold chance by producing a woman tc
sign a waiver Of citation in the probate
Of the will who 10 closely allied to his
family. The theory Ia that he had thii
woman make up with an elaborate dis.
guise and that he coached her In sign
ing her name In a disguised hand, and
that when the time comes to produce
this woman he will make the plea that
she has disappeared, carrying with her
the fortune Of the alleged murdered
woman.
The cunning and daring Of such q
scheme, said a repres entative Of the
Austro- Hungarian Consulate to-day, has
never had a parallel In the probate
courts Of this Stat@
There Is only one other person be
sides Gibson who saw or spoke to the
woman who Is alleged to Gibson to have
convinced him that she was the real
Mrs. Menschik, named by Mrs. Szabo
as her mother. her sole surviving rela-
tive and sole beneficiary under the
will. This was Donald Lyons. a notary
public OF No. COS Nostrand avenue,
Brooklyn. who certified the waiver of
citation signed In his presence by the
supposed Mrs. Menschik.
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