The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-03-08
TREATIES ARE RATIFIED BY THE SENATE 76-3 The Amendments Remove Three Important
 Objections THE SENATE WILL
 RETAIN AUTHORITY In Modified Form Treaties Must Be Referred to England and France. Neither Taft Nor Jusserand
 Make Comment

Washington. March 7-stripped of the clause which 1t was maintained would in- wade the constitutional treaty making power of the Senate and with many other limitations added. the general arbitration treaties between the United States and England and France, proposed by Presi- dent Taft and Secretary Knox as forerun- ners of universal peace, were ratified by the Senate today by vote of 76 10 3. The senators who voted against the rat ihcations were: Lorimer, Maritime and Reed The latter two are democrats.
 President Taft tonight, before leaving for his speaking trip to Toledo and Chi oago, did not comment upon the senafe's action. It is known he had hoped 10 seq the treaties passed unamended. He dad declared publicly, however that certain amendments would not be objectionable. Are in Abeyance Virtually the treaties. by the Senate's action. are "up in the air In thes modi- fed form they must he referred to Eng land and France.
 By the terms of an amendment proposed
 
 consented to the ratification of the trea- ties with the distinct provision that they do not submit to arbitration any question which affects the admission of aliens into the United States, or tho admission of aliens to the educational institutions of the several states. or the territorial in- tegrity of the several states or of the United states. or concerning the question of alleged indebtedness or moneyed ohli- gation of any state of the United States. or of any question which depends upon or involves the maintenance Of the tradi tional attitude of the United States eonr corning American questions. commonly described as the Monroe doctrine or other purely governmental rules.
 As amended the treaties provide that all differences related to the subjects named in tho Bacon amendment, which 1t has not been possible to adjust by diplonldcy and which are iusticiable in their nature shall be submitted to arbi- tratIon at The Hague tribunal Success of Treaties Imperiled Senator Lodge and others who fought the Senates action today declared that the alteration of the much discussed clause three of article three would im- peril the success of the treaties.
 No official expressions were made at the state department. Diplomatists point ed out what they claimed was a. parallel to the Senate's action today and in that case the treaties under consideration never became operative.
 In 1905, under President Roosevelt, Sec retary Hay negotiated arbitration treaties with England and other powers which provided that questions of vital interest national honor and those affecting third parties were not be arbitrated. The Sell ate. by a vote of more than five 10 one amended the treaties to provide that any special agreements for arbitration was to be presented for it's advice and coh-A sent The treaties were piseon-hoied Tn the state department. Three years later Secretary Root now Senator Root, nego- tiated about 25 arbitration treaties which the Senate ratified but in each of these the advice and consent of the Senate to arbitration was expressly provided for Diplomatists think the situations much alike.
 Ambassador Bryce did not comment; neither did Jules Jusserand, the ampas- sador from France.
 Senator Bacon and his colleagues, who forced the modification, declared that nothing had been lost in the cause or peace because 45 nations were now parties to The Hague convention and they spoke. having in mind also the treaties nego- tlated by Secretary Root.
  bate and numerous amendments. The ad- minfstration senators, though figuring on 4 close vote on the third clause and closely following the roll call. were surprised and confused by the result Their view was that the elimination was achieved by tho massing of q practically solid democratic vote with a sprinkling of republicans.
 Senators Absent
 Senator's Penrose of Pennsylvania, the republican leader of the Senate, Heyburn of Idaho, Gronna of North Dakoto, Gam ble of South Dakota, Stone of Missouri, Poindexter of Washington, Taylor of Ten nessee and Davis of Arkansas were ab- sent Of these Stone, Gronna, Gamble and Davis had been paired.
 The treaty with England was first taken up and the first vote came promptly at 4;3O o'clock on an amendment proposed by the foreign relations committee to elmi- nate clause of article 9, the provision around which tho fight has centeredr-and on this the motion was carried, 42 to 40.
 Clause would have submitted to a joint high commission the questions as 10 whether or not difference was subject to arbitration and its decision was made final It was contended that that clause would take from the Senate it's preroga- tive as part of the treaty making power and along that line the battle waged from first to last.
 Course of Debate The committee had at first recom- mended the elimination of the provision and then practically nullified that action by bringing in an amendment to the resolution of ratification. reserving all inc rights of the Senate. The original recom- mendation remained on the calendar. how ever, and when the voting was reached proved too strong to be pushed out of the way, even by the later action of the com mittee.
 When the amendment was reached Sem ator Root, advocating ratification without material amendment, sought to have the committees original action set aside by the giving precedence to the amendment of the ratification resolution as the f1nal action of the committee, but the sugges- ton was met with vigorous protest from all parts of the chamber, and Senator Lodge who. on behalf of the committee, had presented both the amendment to the | treaty and the ratification resolution. de- clined to take the responsibility of with drawing the original action. although he said that he would vote against it. Much Quiet Satisfaction