The Mathews journal. (Mathews C.H. [Court House]) 1903-1937, 1912-10-10
! assume 1T was Cornelius

.. Do you recall the fact OF
making this contribution?
"A. No; but the records show
that IL was made.
q. To whom was the second
contribution OF $4,000 ON No
yember list made?
n. i do not recall.
q. Did Mr.. Hartman solicit
any c0ntribution from you?
A No. L knew nothing OF his
campaign fund except what L have
heard since.
q. lie never solicited OF your
A. L DONE think MIR. Hartman
ever solicited any money from me.
q. DO You recall any circum-
contribution of $5O,OOOe
DOES NOT KNOW.
n. There were number OF men
su this. L think MIR. Bliss came
over on one occasion and Mr.. OdeIl
q. DO you recall whether the
contribution WINS paid TO Mr.. Odeus
a. My impression Is that Ii was
mittce and most of IL went into
New York State. This was the day
before election.
a. DO you know of any other
contributions 10 the 1904 campaign
fund made to the congressional
cOmmittees
4. No.
~. nOu you KNOW OF any ONneF
campaign contributions in 1904 90
the Republican campaign by any
of your assOciatesf
a. I do not.
q. Did you make any cOntrl-
buttons In 1904 to congressional
campaign cOmmittees
a. NO, don't remember any.
a. In 1905, did you make any
pnign COmmittecf
4. The only one 1 made was one
of 100000 TO Mr. Sheldon. L think
that IL all. IL was paid in cash
and not by check.
y. by none of my firm, any
way.
.. Do you recall any one in
New York i'm the fall OF 1904 call
ing YOU up by telephone?
y. L do not.
.. You know of no basis for
this telephone story. then?
\. Absolutely none.
Senator Paynter then took up
the examination, going back over
the witness previous testimony
concerning his contributions.
Q. Then 1 understand that the
only record Of these contributions
would be in your cash book?
n. Yes. But L have no doubt
where il went.
~. OO gOu
any contribution to the congress
SiOnal campaign of 1908?
n. Mr.. Sherman. the chairman,
called OH me once, but L don't re-
member what for. 1 have no re-
cord of any payment, and III /
did make any il was nothing of
any magnitude.
.. You may state whether you
made any contribution to any of
the three campaign conventions
of 1912.
a. did not. L was out of the
country.
Q. Or by any of your asso-
ciates?
n. None that i know of.
q. Was your 100000 cOntribu-
ton a part of Harriman's $780,
900 fund?
a. have no doubt of il i'm my
mind, but L have no proof of IL.
Morgan added that Bliss was
n warm personal friend of his
and because of that he (Bliss)
was always sent to impOrtune the
money king for money.
Mr.. Morgan said, in reply to
questions, that he could not re-
call having had any conversation
with Mr.. COrteIyOu during the
1904 campaign, nor did he know
that George w. Perkins con-
tributed TO the Republican fund
of 1904.
He was sure Perkins did not
BY Senator Pomercne:
NO OTHER PARTIES.
Q. Did your firm contribute to
the campaigns of any of the
other political parties of 1904?
n. L have no knowledge of
III.
q. Did you have any cOnversa-
ton with Mr.. Corteiyou after the
1904 campaign?
A. did in 1907.
.. With reference TO the cam
paign funds?
y. No; with reference to the
general financial situation.
q. During the campaign of
1904 did you have any conVersa-
ton with any financiers?
n. 1 have no doubt i did. /
don't remember.
Q. Did you have any talk with
L. III. Hartman?
y. Very likely.
q. Did you talk with President
Mellen, of the New York, New
Haven and Hartford Railroad,
concerning the political situation?
- ~ - wv hNACly
q. Did you discuss it with any
of the heads of the big life in
Surance companies?
n. i really can't say. It's too
far back for me to remember.
q. Did you discuss what can
didate to support?
y. Not that 4 recOllect.
II AM MY FIRM"
Q. Did you talk with Mr.. Bliss
about other contributors?
A. L probably gave him some
advice.
Q. Were you especially inter-
ested in the result of the cleo
ton of 1904?
A. was.
q. Also your firm?
A. L am my firm.
Q. Do you know of any others
particularly interested in the re-
suit of the election?
a. All the other big financial
men were interested.
q. Was George w. Perkins
very much interested?
A. AS a big insurance man he
probably was.
Q. What were the facts MFR
Perkins gave you touching the
insurance companies?
a. don't remember. At that
time Perkins was a trustee of the
New York Life, and when Inc
would come for "a meeting
would say: Perkins, how dc
they feel down there today?'
Q. Did you have Information
during the campaign at any time
that there was to be a large funC
raised for the Roosevelt cam
paign?
A. L never heard of it. I dom