Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1912-11-22

until the next morning. Did not hear
Bert's team come in before he went to
bed. He found the team in the morn
ing. the wagon was left in the floor
and the harness in two different
places. ~ q
Witness had seen Mrs. Raymond the
week before the murder. She came
across the path from her house.
Did you notice what kind of shoes
she wore?" asked the County Attorney.
"She had on pair of low cut tan
shoes several times"
How long before the murder had
yeu seen her with those tan shoes?e
"On the Wednesday before the MUIR
der, / think
How was the horse Bert Raymond
had that night shod?7
THE horse was shod with a slipper
or swedge shoe. 1t made the track
narrower than the ordinary shoe
The Carroll Hopkins Incident.
Witness took the shoes from the
horse the next morning and gave them
to Mr. Brown or Mr.. Ham.
Witness, on cross examination stat
ed that when Matte Hackett was at
the hotel she roomed in the northeast
corner of the hotel on the second floor.
Carroll Hopkins and his wife roomed
outside the hotel. Mr.. Stevens was
then questioned by Attorney MeGilli-
cuddy in regard to an incident at the
hotel. where it was claimed that Car
roll Hopkins had been taken from Mat
tie Hackett's room.
Witness remembered the night Car
roll Hopkins was taken out of Matte
Hackett's room. Carroll and his wife
We're talking out in the hall. Mrs Hop
kins was crying and excited and wit
ness told Carroll to go home and be-
have himself. This was about o'clock
at night. Mrs. Hopkins came back la
ter in the evening and asked witness
to discharge either Carroll or Matte
Did not know how Carroll was taken
out of the room.
|, Did YOU discharge Matte at her re-
quest?"
No"
You still kept them both in your
employ at the hotel until she got sick"
Yes"
did you believe that Carroll was in
Matte Hacketts room?"
Not improperly"
Witness did not discharge them be-
cause he believed that Carroll was not
in the room improperly. He learned
afterwards that Carroll and Matte
were looking over pictures and photo
graphs in the room together Carroll
and Matte told him this.
Carroll and Tenant Drank Cider.
Witness did not know where Carroll
and Mr. Tenant had been when they
drove in He dids not know that they
had been drinking. carroll told him that
they had drink of cider.
where did he say they got that
cider?" asked Atty. McGilicuddy
I'm Vienna"
Witness asked Carroll about the drink
ing because someone had said they came
home drunk. They had black horse
shod with plain. fiat slipper shoe.
What did you do with the shoes on
that horse?"
Il left them on. | had no occasion TO
take them off"
Wasn't Carroll Hopkins suspected at
one time of that crime?@
I'm a measure, yes"
"You and Carroll Hopkins took the
shoes off the sorrell horse didn't you?"
Eyes sir
How did you happen to notice what
| kind of shoes Mrs. Raymond was wear
ing that week?''
II noticed them as she went by
Witness remembered that Mrs
Simmons wore low tan shoes and Matte
Hackett black shoes, but could not re-
member what kind of shoes Mrs. Hop
/ kins or Mrs Milliken Wore.
Witness on redirect examination said
| that Carroll Hopkins was fully dressed
| when he was with his wife outside of
| Matte Haekett's room
| Witness had stated that there was
nothing out of the ordinary in the cons
! duct of Matte Haekett and Carroll
{, Hopkins. when Atty. McGllicuddy
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