The Fargo forum and daily republican. [volume] (Fargo, N.D.) 1894-1957, 1912-10-04

| I'VE cannot under any circumstances
afford to take contribution that
might be construed as placing us under
an obligation" .......
Roosevelt said he had also found
that on Oct 27, 1904. he had also
sent an extra telegram" to Cortelyou
which he said was only recently found.
1t referred to his letter to Cortelyou,
demanding the return of the Standard
Oil Co.'s contribution.
The colonel offered the committee
the originals of all the letters he had
sent to Clapp or had read into the
record. .3... a.... ...v.
We win take your word for that
said Oliver.
Now, how about the Hartman
fund" began Clapp.
There is no testimony against me
except in the form Of hearsay evI-
dence," the colonel said. ''Hearsay
statements of men that are dead.
Mr.. Archbold and Mr.. Penrose pur-
port to give the statement of what Mr..
Bliss had to say. Mr.. Bliss is dead.
"Mr Odell and the other gentlemen
refer to the statement made by Mr..
Hartman, who is dead" Gs
At this point Roosevelt digressed to
| refer to the letter published in Hearst's
magazine from Congressman Sibley.
in which 1t was stated, in substance,
that Sibley went to see Roosevelt about
seeing Archbold, and Roosevelt said
he would be delighted" to see Arch
botd and asked Sibtey TO bring Arch
boid TO lunch. The colonel did not re-
member ever having talked with Sib-
ley about Archbold. He said, how
ever, that Senator Bourne once brought
Archbold to lunch at oyster bay.
The colonel said when he was presi-
dent he was looking forward" aud
| that II he thought the country would
nTn6f thrnIph Snf
| trust magnate he would hold il as
| quickly as he would with the most
humble citizen.
Returning to the Hartman busi-
| ness" Roosevelt declared he never
asked Hartman directly or Indirectly
for single dollar for any campaign
DE defended the use of the term
practical men" in the much discussed
| letter of Oct. IA, 1906. He said his ef-
| fort was to get practical men into
/ politics, and scored those who ne
said, sought to give an improper mean
| ing to the phrase.
! AS an explosive climax TO his bitter
| denunciation Of those who sought to
| attribute improper motives to his see
| ing John D. Archbold, of the Standard
| Oil Co., and in view of his communi-
cations with 2. H. Hartman, Roose-
| welt demanded that Sen. Boise Pen
| rose OF Pennsylvania should be
| thrown out Of the United States SEN
| ate."
The colonel punctuated his testi-
mony by pounding both arms of his
! chair with his fists. The perspiration
| streamed down his face and neck.
Il hold that Penrose should be
| thrown out because of his own admis-
| Sions before this committee, that he
advised John D. Archibald to try TO
/ purchase immunity from prosecution
! by the government.
"Archbold gave evidence that Bliss
| tried to blackmail him. / don't be-
! lieve that. AS you have seen by these
| letters, as soon as there was any ru-
NOR about improper contributions /
| ordered them returned and / have
| Cortelyous assurance, also Bliss that
| there were no such contributions.
Loeb had assurance over the telephone
! that the Standard Oil didn't give any
| thing. Penrose said he advised Arch
| bold to submit to blackmail, because
of the hostility of myself, and they
could incur that only If they violated
| the law.
"The purpose Of Penrose in such ad-
vice could only have been to secure the
| Standard oil CO., against government
action If it violated the law
Roosevelt sprung another sensation,
when in a voice that vibrated with
emphasis he asserted that he had
never asked Hartman, directly or i'm
directly for a dollar to help in the 1904
campaign or in any other"
| He asserted that, far from there be-
| ing any request made of Hartman for
a contribution, the railroad king had
been the one who solicited Roosevelt's
/ aid in getting the national committee
to apportion more of its funds to help
out the republican gubernatorial can
didate in New York, Governor Higgins.
until 1880. Roosevelt was still on the
| stand.