The Hawaiian gazette., 1912-09-17

ton was to submit the regulations Of
your rates, etc, to commission Of
men who were near enough to get down
/ TO facts9''
"That is right"
Your company has never taken any
steps with view to having such com
mission appointedS'
"We have never taRen any action
against any such proposition
! Does you company charge uniform
rates to all shippers of the same class
between the same pointsi
There is some distinction. There il
q difference in regard to ton lots. Take
Mahukona and Kona, if there is less
than ton it is SO; if ton or over it
is $3.50 There are ports where it is 50
for lot lots Take ports like Lahainl.
The rate there is 50 and $3.50.
Mr.. Ashford entered discussion
with Mr.. Kennedy about n higher rate
to Lahaina than to Hilo which is far
Their away. Mr.. Kennedy explained,
that freight for Hiio could be unload
cd on pier and did not have TO o
registered which accounted for this dif-
ference.
"Now the fact that those difficulties
may exIst-those abuses may exist, is
abuses, but / don Z believe that it will
help us to go beyond showing that there
are such abuses said the Secretary.
$50 you care to hear something, Mr..
Secretary, concerning the comparative
charges from the ports where most is
done in small farmingf" inquired Mr..
Ashford.
elf you can show me what the rates
are where they are trying to do most
of the homesteading and show that
, there is any discrimination / will be
glad to know. If what you say is true
it would tend to show that there is a
discrimination between the larger ports
like Hilo and Honolulu and the small
, er ports, 1t may be true that the small
| port in getting the worst of it in COM
petition with the big one, but there
might be explanations for that. 1t
teaches us that with or without home-
steads that discrimination may exist
SIN Hawaii, twenty-nine miles from
; Hilo, homesteaders grow cabbages,
! which they bring down, freight for
seventy-fve cents those twenty-nine
miles that we charge twenty-five cents
0 to bring to Honolulu, - said Mr.. Ken.
nedy.
I "Will you kindly state the rate for
, Lahaina'''
1 "For large punches, it is 25 cents. -
edo you know the rate from here
, to San Francisco7'
81 do not, but they take enormous
r quantities, while we bring few from
this port and n few from that. ~
"What is your rate upon cattle from
I Kona to Honolulu"
{ GIVE dollars
q SIS that available to everybody"
{ eyes"
Q essay that homesteader is bringing
. ONE
O "There are limitations
o "What are the limitations'''
II "Seventy. five"
n $50 that if there is at least seventy
f Ave in the invoice and the cattle are
of sufficient size then according to the
n weight-what is the ordinary weight,
o 900 poundsf"
~ do not know. Five hundred
n pounds is So, 400 pounds is a."
n. "Now, is that for all shippersi"
" Gan shippers OF seventy Ave head. !"
70 'You never bring seventy-fve head
" of cattle on one steamer"
y els that all you know about iti"
N said Mr.. Kennedy, smiling. "Why we
n can bring 100 head on some of the
re- steamers
70 "Isn't the usual number thirtyHn
IL con the mail steamers.
IN shipping thirty on the mail steam
rs era, what would be the ratei"
''Five dollars fiat"
nWOuld that be 10 all shlppersS ,b
Everybody the same.n
IA big shipper would not be allow.
N ed to get the ?5.head rate by shipping
y, forty later9" pressed the Secretary.
- No." said Mr.. Kennedy. "It would
not pay us at the cheap rate to carry
s. fewer than seventy. five
Are the rates between here and the
Kauai ports uniform or substantially
n sol" asked Mr.. Ashford.
"With the exception of Hanalei and
y Wainiha it is, all $3.50 ton, that is
ID in ton lots"
d "Speaking of passage rates. Has
d there been any reduction in the passage
rates7n
d There hasn't been any reduction
It IN passage rates, but there has been an
d Improvement in the accommod ations
- On the Atlantic they have raised the
rates. We have not done that
D. Mr.. Kennedy, in discussion follow.
ing Mr.. Ashford Is contention that
Q freight is not carried by the company's
IS steamers from Hilo to Kona ports, be.
s. cause 1t was not the policy of the com.
l. pany to allow competition with Homo
lulu, denied the charge emphatically
He said that, except on mail steamers,
it would not pay to carry freights on
the Hilo.Kona run. The mail steamers
= carried limited amount of freight,
y what could be handled so as not to in.
@ terfere with the mail schedules. The
T company intended soon to put on a
= steamer on that route, knowing before
u hand it will not pay, 1t will be pro
bono publico,' said Mr.. Kennedy.
ia Lewis on Land Report.
d A. Lewis, Jr., vice president and man.
3. ager of the Bank of Hawaii, formerly
practising attorney with Smith &
j. Lewis and for twelve years a resident
l. of the Hawaiian Islands, gave detail.
e ed history of the land commission g re.
port to the Governor on the land prob
lem. The commission was not unitei