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that Mr.. Roosevelt had ordered

that Mr.. Roosevelt had ordered thu
Standard Oil contribution returned:
| well, IL that means loss TO the cam
paign ! will contribute more money To
make IL good"
Mr.. Roosevelt declared that he had had
no knowledge Of the contriubt ions by the
insurance companies.
O. Were you ever advised as TO the part
or proportion OF the funds OF the campaign
which were contributed by corporations
A. No, never. I never hea rd II discussed.
O. Now. during this campaign those large
interests in New York were supporting
your candidacy, were they not2 A. Certain
OF them. yes sir.
Q. Do you know who contributed the
fund Of 100000 which was raised by Mr..
Hartman? A. l do not know anything
about II. I saw yesterday that Mr.. Morgan
said he contributed nifty Oft
Q. Did you have any knowledge that
during the campaign there was conference
In New York city held by representa- tives
OF the large financial interests in which
ways and means wcre considered and de-
vised Of assisting the Republican cam
paisnr A. No. sir.
Can't Recall $4,000 contribution.
Senator Paynter wanted to know II
Mr.. Roosevelt had ever heard OF Herman
F1 Frasch; sch. Mr. Roosevelt hositated' Then
Il feel that will have to ask II know
him. I know a large number OF people.
(Addres sing Mr.. Loeb: Do you know a
family by the name Of Frasch? You
know I continually meet people who come
waved the flag when you came into such
and R,Ich a place"
This gentleman draw1ed Paynter,
was very anxious to help you wave the
flag. According to Mr.. Hooker. he gave
aMr. Frasch. you say. helped us at the
preconventioni' exclaimed the Colonel.
evidently embarrassed.
.Yes, that is what Mr.. Hooker said"
Il will make his acquaintance at once
as an intimate friend" Mr.. Roosevelt re-
aMr. Hooker reported that he contrib
uted $4,000 to aid you" said Senator
bully for Mr.. Frasch.' exclaimed the
Senator paynter asked II Mr.. Roose-
welt knew a man named Clark Greer OF
Georgia. The Colonel wasn't going to
he caught this time and said he did and
thought he was white man.
Mr.. Greer Is the man who Ia reported
to have swung some of the Georgia Taft
delegates to Roosevelt at Chicago.
MIR. Roosevelt knew nothing about the
cost Of his preconvention campaign.
He denied that it had been underwritten
by George W. Perkins and Frank A.
Munsey. but he acknowledged that some
| of his trips had been underwritten by
them and that they had been reimbursed
later. All told Mr. Roosevelt was on the
stand about five hours. and he seemed
relieved when Chairman Clapp told him
he could 60.
William Loeb, Jr.. Collector Of the
Port of New York and former Secretary
| to President Roosevelt, took the witness
stand as soon as his former chief con-
cluded. He gave his recollection Of the
visit Of Mr.. Hartman.
Immediately after Mr.. Hartman was
| shown into the Presidents ROOM" said
Mr.. Loeb. Il went in or was called in.
was probably called in because of my
knowledge of New York politics. but |
was there through substantially all Of
the interview between the President and
the situation in New York He said the
State was all right as far as the national
ticket was concerned but there was a re-
volt against the State ticket and Higgins
because the ticket was regarded as Odeil-
made THE New YORK SUN was carrying
three OF four years
| Loeb Backs Up Roosevelt.
| .The President said that he did not
| know the state of the National Committee
funds. but he instructed MIR. Hartman
to go to see Mr. Cortelyou and said he
would hate to see Higgins defeated.
| AT the same time he instructed me
call up Mr.. Cortelyou on the long distance
telephone and ask him to see what could
be done. l did before Mr. Hartman left
and Mr.. Cortelyou told me that he would
see Mr.. Bliss and to say that he would
be glad to see MIR. Hartman when he
called"
Did you know Of Mr.. Hartman raising
a fund Of $3.50. .OOO?'
# did not" was the reply.
The committee then tapped Mr.. LOe b q
| memory in the Standard Oil contribution
He confirmed the Colonel's testimony of
| the morning on that point
DO you know anything about the cam
| paign OF 1904 that you have not already
| stated that would be of service to this
committee2" Mr., Loeb was asked.
Senator said Mr.. Loeb with much
earnestness. my lips have heretofore
of all Of Col. Roosevelt campaigns. l
would not have spoken here to-day but
for your subpoena, II will be Just as easy
to prove that the moon is made of green
cheese as to impugn Col. Roosevelts
| official or personal integrity in'this matter
OF corporation contributions or as to any
other official act of his.
| y Senators Paynter and Pomerene tried
to extract from Mr.. Loeb an admission
that Mr. Hartman came to the White
House at the President s initiative, but he
would not concede it and repeatedly in
| sisted that Hartman sought the inter view
PAT the conclusion of Mr.. Loeb's testi.
mony the committee took recess until
Monday. Senator Clapp announced that
he would make public tomorrow the list
of witnesses for next week.
| Col. Roosevelt and his party, including
Collector Loeb. returned to New York
on the midnight train over the Pennsyl-
vania.