New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-12

government suffered must intensity the
spirit Of enthusiasm which will char
acterize the proceedings at this weeks
demonstration and conference of the
forces Of the Opposition in London.
The general expectation is that Mr..
Asquith after question time to-day will
snove the adjournment Of the House, in
order to make statement with re-
gard to the intentions of the govern
ment. This will probably give rise to
sharp criticism from the Opposition
benches, and party feeling may run
high.
Naturally, the Unionists are in high
feather, but they are not likely to get
a chance of taking office while the Eu-
ropean situation is so critical
London. Nov. 12.-while the House
of Commons was debating the financial
provisions Of the Home Rule bill IN
committee yesterday, an unexpected
vote on an amendment offered by sir
Frederick Banbury, a Unionist mem
Der for the City Of London, resulted IN
an Opposition victory by majority
of twenty-five.
The Conservatives were jubilant and
loudly demanded that the Liberal gov
eminent resign, which, according 10
presidents. It should do, always pro
vided that the vote, which was 22S 20
DOG was a genuine test Of the strength
of the government on the measure.
The temporary defeat of the govern
ment caused a great political sensation
but will not result in its downfall. The
Cabinet held meeting during the
evening and decided to present reso-
luton in the House to-day which viii
be practically a demand for vote OF
confidence, and after some Parlia-
mentary red tape, will endeavor TO
have Sir Frederick Banbury's amend
ment resubmitted and expunged.
The younger Conservatives prepared
the trap for the Ministerialists and
succeeded In getting a vote when many
members were in the country and a
number Of those in town were absent
from the House, not expecting that i'm
portant business would be taken up.
The governments average maJorlties
on previous details of the bill have
been in the neighborhood of one hun
dred. But there has been much dis
satisfaction among members Of all the
parties at the provision compelling The
other sections of the United Kingdom
to contribute to the support of Ireland
without a voice in the expenditure OF
the money.
The Cabinet council held after the
governments defeat lasted two hours,
at the end Of which it's decision not to
resign was announced. An official state
ment, which was issued, declares that
the adoption of the amendment was
clearly due to a snap division on mo-
ton which was not even put on the
order paper and which was destructive
of the resolution passed November I
by majority of 121.
Sir Frederick Banbury's amendment
provides that the total payment from
the Imperial Exchequer to the irish
Parliament shall not exceed ST., 5OO,-
600, exclusive of the amount received
from Irish taxation, and having regard
to the amount saved in the Irish adj
m inistration by the transfer of certain
services to the control Of the Irish gov
eminent.
Herbert Samuel, the Postmaster Cen
eral, in opposing Sir Frederick Ban
bury's amendment, said II would mean
that the total sum payable to Ireland
would be limited to S125O0, 900 year.
The revenue from Irish taxation would
be S47, 100000, estimated on the ores
ent basis of Irish revenue, and the
amendment would mean that the 5um
handed back TO Ireland would be Sl2,-
! 800, 900 for services which cost $50
| 100000 year.
The government defeat will have the
effect of dislocating the schedule ar
| ranged with the view Of passing the
bill before Christmas.
Snap divisions during the meetings
Of committees Of the House Of Com
mons are not unusual, although this is
the first experience Of the kind OF the
present government. Arthur J. Bel
four suffered in this way several times