New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-19
UNION OFFICIAL TAINTED
WHEN HE SAW |NFORMER
Clancy, After Mcnamara Ad-
missions, Collapsed at Sight OF
McManigaI, Say AtCuSers.
MUNSEY RECLAIMED NERVE
Agreed to Make a "Clean Breast
of It," but Changed His
Mind the Next Day,
Charges Lawler.

Indianapolis, Nov. lS--Eugene A.
Clancy a labor union official, Of San
Francisco. tainted when, after making
admissions In the District Attorney
Office In Los Angeles, he looked through
the crack of a door and saw standing IN
another room Ortie L. McManigal, the
confessed dynamiter This testimony was
given at the dynamite conspiracy trial
to-day by Oscar Lawler, special assistant
to the Attorney General, and Arthur Il.
Veitch, who gathered evidence in Califor-
MIA. They said that Clancy collapsed In
December, 1911, after admitting in their
presence that he knew James b. McNa-
mara was on the coast to blow up non
union jobs.
Lawler and Veitch also named Olaf A.
Tveitmoe and Anton Johannsen, san
Francisco; w. II. Pohlman, Seattle, and
j. r. Munsey. Salt Lake City, as being
aware of McNamara's dynamitng mis-
sion. Pohlman and Johannsen are not
among the forty-fiye defendants here, but
when the defence objected to quoting
what Johannsen might have said the
court ruled the evidence was competent
DtGdAst ~ HuN bftli SllbNiA mo- 'N''N''''
seq was co-conspirator."
Alleged Talk with Mcnamara
The witnesses said that Clancy, at the
District Attorneys Office, told this story
In August. before The Los Angeles
Times" explosion. Clancy went 10 seat
tie. where he was introduced by fohlil"H
10 James IS. Mcnamara, VINO sald 70
Clancy: You know what IN out het Z
for" and then explained ne was 10 40
dynamItlng Clancy then went 10 ths
international Association OF bridge aho
Structural Iron " OrkerS convention az
Rochester, where he talked with j. j.
Mcnamara about the visit OF the dyna-
inter 10 the Pacific Coast.
Clancy was in Boston with MlCmael o.;
Young when he read of the killing or
people at the Los Angeles explosion; ne
Immediately tele6raphed To pShOrty, san
Francisco, TO clean house, meaning 70
get rid OF certain kilograms ABOUT >;
BIS" Western trip. lie also hurried
West, stopping at salt Lake city 10 see
Munsey, the irOnWUrkers' business agent
there. Whether MUnsey told him the
dynamiter was hiding in Salt Lake CITY
Clancy refused TO say, adding: You had
better see Munscy about that.
When the Llcweliyn Iron Works IN Los
Angeles was blown up on December %,
1910, Mechanical, who did that JoD, APP
peared in ClanCys office I'm san Fran
CISCO. 'ldNSN NDIu MN W bNA bNN si''
directed him to see Tveitmoe
Just after the had told this story,
Clancy. who has heart trouble, turned
around and, seeing MECHANICAL through
the crack OF a door, tainted.
Asked later why. knowing Mcnamara
was guilty he had joined with TyeitmoE
and Johannsen In the defence OF the MY
,amara brothers, Clancy replied to his
interrogation that he considered 1t none
OF his business.
Mr.. LAWYER. telling OF an interview he
had with Munsey known also as Jack
Bright, said.
Munsey told me that. after The
Times" explosion, he was sent BY j. J.
Mcnamara 10 inquire whether the people
in Los Angeles thought the building had
been destroyed by escaping gas. | tolu
Munsey We had Information that he ma
James Il. I'm Salt Lake city Tor TWO
weeks after the explosion, that We had a
Salt Lake City tailor, Theodore {. Bonn
who made suit OF clothes for McNa-
mara: and in fact. Munseys own VIE
had given us n description OF Mcnamara
as a man To- whom. she rented room
Munsey admitted he rented room 10 Il
man named Williams, but he didn't think
he looked like Mcnamara,
| also asked him whether he had not
been the go-betwecn in getting the dyna-
inter back TO indianapolis. He denied
all OF II. Then he came back and said
he had decided 10 make a clean breast
OF IL We agreed 10 meet the next day,
hut I'm the mean time Munsey had seen
Johannsen, and when he reappeared the
next day he said he had decided not 10
talk any further.
also had a talk with TyeitmOe about
labor conditions I'm Los Angeles In which
he said General Harrison Gray Otis. pro-
prietor OF The Times, was regarded as
an enemy OF union labor.
Further testimony that Herbert $.
Hockin. now on trial. furnished the gov
eminent information last winter was
given by r. a. Graves, detective.
Graves said that Hockln arranged with
him TO get I'm touch" with w. j. Burns,
the detective and that Hookin later met
Burns and delivered certain papers
wanted by the prosecution.
Blackened pieces OF Internal machines,
which figured in THE Times" explosion,
Identified