Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-02-01
SESSION ENlIVENED BY
SHARP VERBAL BATTLE
Attorney Healy Tells Why Detect
i've Work Was Discontinued.
MCGOWAN HEARS THE STORY
Learns How He Was Duped by
Detective, Who Sought
Admissions of Grim
inality.

Wordy hostiities between Detectiya
William J. Burns and Attorney Hanecy.
Senator Lorimer's counsel, were renewed
today, when Burns continued under cross
examination before the Senate commits
tee investigating Senator Lorimer's cleo
ion Burns had attacked the credibilty
OF Charles MCGOWAN. a witness for Lori
mer, who had testified negatively rela.
tive to an alleged conversation on 4
train about the "one-hundred- thousand-
dollar jackpot fund to put Lorimer over"
Hanecy and Burns got into a wranglo
as soon as the examination began.
This man has been insulting me- be-
gan Burns when Chairman DILLINGHAM; re-
quested him not to interfere in discussions
between counsel
You call him or l will stop him." re-
torted Burns.
iii do just as / please the chair
man announced.
Cant the witness protect himself?'
fared Senator Kenyon. as he turned to-
ward the chairman.
Certainly. but / do not feel he should
interrupt counsel in their discussion"
This man has been bully-ragging.-
everybody who has been on the witness
stand.' insisted Burns. Il don't propose
TO be insulted. II he keeps on I'll tell
something about his reputation
''Oh. 1 guess my reputation is all
right" interposed Attorney Hanecy.
The committee decided the attorney
must cease language which could be re-
garded as insulting.
Attorney Hanecy wanted to know IL
Burns had given the information on which
an Associated Press dispatch OF January
p, 1912. announcing his work on the case.
had been based. Burns said he had no..
Detective Work Discontinued.
Senator Jones took exception to a state-
ment in the dispatch that Burns had re-
ported to the committee, and that his
services had been dispensed with, only
to be continued by the Chicago Tribune.
Il never heard about it, said Senator
Jones, land as l understand it. counsel
for the committee were never told by the
Burns people that they had evidence
against MCGOWAN, and then the services
We're discontinued. Isn't that so?''
NO: we knew about it." replied At-
torney Healey.
Then / am sorry to hear it," returned
Senator Jones.
Healy to tell of the report of the Burns
detectives to the committee counsel and
of their reporting in turn to the commt-
tee in October when Senator Jones was
absent The committee approved the dis
continuance of the services Of the detec-
tives then.
About the time MCGOWAN testified
here in July explained Attorney Healys
Mr.. Beck of the Chicago Tribune told
us that a man named Stuart. who claim
ed he was a chum of MCGOWAN, was
doing some loose talk about the Morit-
son Hotel in Chicago about McGowan's
testimony. We asked the detectives TO
investigate, and Detective Bailey report
ed that Stuart 'intimated' that MCGOWAN
had come to Washington for the purpose
of testifying falsely and was given
money.
chummy with MCGOWAN. went on hunt
ing trip with him, we were told. and
got admissions from MCGOWAN. We con-
sidered however, that II would just be a
detectives word against McGowan's. and
getting no place, we recommended that
the services be dispensed with.
A minute later Burns objected to the
that his men had gotten no.
where
well, they had worked two or three
months and didn't claim to have gotten
more than alleged admissions Of a single
man. uncorrOborated." snapped Senator
Jones.
MCGOWAN Hears He Was Duped.
Young MCGOWAN heard the story of his
being duped by the detective as he sat
in the first row of spectators.
Attorney Hanecy wanted to know what
made Burns think that Mr.. Kerr of De-
troit, who was reported to have heard
MCGOWAN make admissions in Torog<
to- was "a big business man
ID.,,f- IL 4:
So and he himself had learned Kerr was
an inventor.
Hanecy Twits Burns.
Attorney Hanecy twitted Burns for be-
lieving a detective.
THE lawyers have not been able to
convince you that all detectives are
asked Hanecy
mo. In my speech / include lawyers
with crooked detectives
The attorney asked IL detective agencies
do not at times employ yeggmen.
"Yes, sometimes for crooked lawyers
to blow up safes to get papers lawyers
want
by the way, Mr.. Burns, you have
boasted publicly since you have been in
that you lie to newspaper
men and Others" suggested the attorney.
1--WE call 1t finessing or using subter-
fuge."
1.-The ordinary man would call 1t lying?'
You do 1t yourself
THAT may be when dealing with some
witnesses"
Attorney Hanecy wanted to know about
he Burns agency employing yeggmen.
Must go into all this inquired
Senator Kenyon.
Attorney Hanecy demanded why such
olicitude of late for witnesses.
That's unfair" declared Senator Jones.
.'Oh. let him go on, IL he wants to re-
lect on the committee" suggested Sen.
Ltor Kenyon.
Burns rcross-examination was finished
ust before lunch.
Letter Read to Committee.
The main feature Of the hearing yester-
lay Afternoon was the reading OF the
ettef. purporting to have been written
by Charles MCGOWAN, the young Cana-
iiag. to A. c. Bailey. one OF Detective
3urhs' assistants. and claimed to indi-
ate that McGowan did not tell the truth
'7sn he was on the ~isns stand last