The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1912-09-22
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Of applicants for the department brought
out by Mr.. Buckner Tho point made by
The Adermanic Committee in these cases
was that the applicant had committed
perjury in saying that he never had been
arrested when he later admitted, when
confront ed with police records. that he
had.
The whole question on this point,
said the civil service officer. "revolves
around the fact that up to last year many
Of the applicants misunderstood the
question Have you ever been complained
of. indicted for or convicted Of a crime|"
He said they were taught in civil service
schools that the commission did not care
about arrests for trivial matters. Last
year the question on the civil service
blank was changed to read. Have you
ever been arrest ed" which was the form
of the quest ion on the special blanks
used by the Police Department while
Lieut.. Stanton's bureau was in operated
The cases cited by Lieut. Stanton had
answered this direct question in the
negative on the Police Depart mcnt' 8
blank.
The official said that out of the forty
eight names rejected by Commissioners
Cropsey and recertincd by the commis-
sion twenty-one had been rejected by
the police surgeons for physical defects.
Furthermore. he said. tho Commissioners
had violated the first mandatory provision
Of the civil service law in rejecting the
number he did. since the law permits the
rejection Of only two out of three
The application of MIR Creelman for
an increased appropriation for his de-
part ment contains some interesting state
ments in view of Mr. Waldo's declaration
Of absolute dependence on the Civil
Service Commissions investigation.
The president of the Civil Service Com
mission said when he made the applicatio
last October that his invest igators were
constantly discovering men who had done
time in prison among the applicants.
He laid great stress on the importance of
the work and Of actually making the in
vestigations and not merely theorizing &
about IT. With the small force two
investigators command. he Raid that
the commission at that time had a list
Of 200 men to look up for various de-
part ments and in two and a half weeks
nau been able 10 investigate only thirty
| Meanwhile, he said. the Police Commits
sioner was clamoring for more men
The two investigators on which the Civil
service commission appears to have to
rely for SO great an amount OF work are
gwen III tne current Slty RECORD list AZ
'harles oNonnor or AZ West Fifty
seventh street ana Paui A lavo OF Harri'
| sonavpnle and Second street South
jamaica,
somewhere hetween President treel
man ana 'ommissioner waldo the Alder
manic committee VIII seek 70 learn on VIVA
investigation the recertihcation OF th'
forty applicants rejected by commissioner
,roPsey was paSed AZ time when ON
missioner Waldo had abolished the Police
department bureau ana the Civil Serric,
'ommission bureau had not yet beer
thoroughly manned according TO MIR
reeiman statement. some or the ap.
piCarts mus recertliied ana appointed
without QUESTION ny MI waldo had beer
reJec,eu ho' oniy oy 'orh'n'ssioner 'rop.
sey Dut py commissioners Bingham and
baker before MN
AS soon as these matters have been
cearro up ntth more 10 the satisfaction
3i me Aldermantc oommittee. Counsel
nuckher VIII nave completed three sec.
uons ol the ou!liheo examination oi
commissioner Maiao' lhese sections
nave 10 90 with appontments-tht
sna 80 on, promot,ons. IN wnicn tne Same
IeahhreS ai Appeared 70 some extent and IN
I Mnlcn .ne names Hii OF inspectors Nc, HUSKY
laney ana hughes ma We been brought up
a''T ,rahsiers' ,.,
ineie mas Tch one lnterruption IN
,piio wig gu, ,oIs p.oerHllline, caused b>