Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-10-05
TWO MEN CAN TELL
Miqht Disclose Hartman ver-
sion of RooseveIt's Pledge.
DEAL FOR $3.50, FUND
Claimed That Senate Vacancy Would
Be Provided for Black.
DEPEW TO BE SENT ABROAD
Alleged Bargain Made at the White
House in 1904 Repeated Over
Phone to II. NICK. Twombley.

Col. Roosevelt on the witness stand
before the Clapp committee has denied
that he sent for Edward H. Hartman
before the election of 1904 to urge him
to raise s25O,00O for campaign purposes
in the state of New York. Former At
torney General Wayne MacVeagh has
denied having any connection with this
matter. as alleged by Charles Edward
Russell. a magazine writer, whose
statements have been the subject OF
much discussion before the committee
In view of these denials version of
the Roosevelt Hartman episode has
been given to The Star from sources of
undoubted credibility. furnishing a
possible clue to the positive ascertain
ment of the facts from the only two
men living who are aware Of the in
cident imediately following Harriman's
visit to Washington.
Conference in This City.
After the exchange of the letters
which are now known as the 1--WE are
practical men" correspondence. Mr..
Hartman came to Washington at the
Presidents instance. it is declared by
The Stars informant. and consulted
with Mr.. Roosevelt at the White House
regarding the campaign conditions in
New York. Mr.. Hartman explained in
reply to the Presidents anxious in
quiries that the campaign UP state was
somewhat dependent upon plan to
secure the United States senatorship
for former Gov Frank S. Black, to
make room for whom in the Senate it
h <~ Tvp1 nj or
Senator Depew.
Mr.. Roosevelt thereupon agreed that If
Mr.. Hartman would obtain the funds
necessary to finance the campaign in the
state he would name Mr.. Depew' ambassa-
dor to France and thus make room for
Blacks election, this being regarded as a
helpful contribution to Higgins candi-
dacy for governor. the whole working out
to the benefit Of the national ticket.
Deal Repeated Over Phone.
Immediately upon his return to New
York, The Stars present information
runs. Mr.. Hartman called up III. NICK.
Twombye by telephone and told him of
the understanding that he had just reach
ed with the President. In Mr.. Harri-
mans Office at that time was Charles A..
Peabody. In Mr.. TwOmby's Office simil-
taneously were A. ]. Cassatt, president
Of the Pennsylvania railroad. and Wayne
Mac eagh. 1t is stated that Mr.. Mac
Veagh and Mr.. Cassatt undoubtedly
heard Mr.. Twombly's half of the CONVEX
sation and Mr.. Peabody heard Mr.. Har-
riman's half. OF these five men Mr..
Peabody and Mr.. MaceVagh are the only
ones now living, and their testimony
would give a complete account of the
conversation between Mr.. Hartman and
Mr.. Twombly. which, it is understood,
consisted in Mr.. Harrmans statement
of the understanding with the President
and his promise to contribute $4,000 of
the required $2JO.OOO. leaving to Mr..
Twombyly the task of raising the remain
der. Mr.. Twombly's rejOiner. it is stated,
was to the effect that he believed Mr..
Hartman had been sold a gold brick and
that the goods would never be delivered.
but that he would nevertheless go ahead
and raise the money, which he did.
1t is believed to be a fair inference that
il Mr. MacVeagh is called to the witness
stand and questioned in the light of this
version of the incident he will not enter
as specific a denial as that which he has
given to the Russell story Of his connec>
ton with telephone communication.