The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1912-09-17

for nothingfp inquired Mr.. Ashford.
"Nothingi" was Mr.. Dillingham; a
sharp reioiudcr. "Thc government
granted us this franchise and A subsidy
and in return for that we have built
up the taxes from 100000 on this
whole Island of Oahu TO S2,0OD.00O a
year. That is what we have paid for
i'll We take the credit for that The
property beyond the terminus of the
railroad line is now taxed about as in
1892. The government now receives
about S2,O00,000 from the efforts of the
one or two men who started these util.
itics.
How about the trustees of tho
bondholders on the o. II. & LIZ in.
quired Ashford.
There have been changes. The pres.
emit bondholdors are represented by
Governor Frear and r. w. Atkinson. -
"Who are the trustees representing
the bondholders for the Hilo Railroad
Company"
+" Bishop & Company for the new is.
sue, and the First National Bank for
the first issue of $l,00O,OOO.'
How long has Governor Frear been
one of the trustees for the bondhold
ers3' asked Attorney Olson, being
told that his term began about eight
years ago. Mr.. Dillingham; started to
explain that the office of trustee had
not been n very onerous one so far, the
interest on the bonds having been met
promptly.
=" You do not have to go into that,
Mr.. Dillingham;, interrupted the See.
rotary. "I can readily believe that if
you have a property that pays nine per
cent. on stock issue of four million
and six per cent, on bond issue of
two million that the trustees for the
bondholders have very little to worry
over.v
Rates to Homesteaders.
In discussing freight rates, Mr.. Dill.
bingham stated that the company dealt
fairly with settlers. He instaneed the
rates on pineapples from Wahiawa,
which began at five dollars a ton, to be
cut down dollar a ton n year for two
years and to $3.50 thereafter. The rail
road had voluntarily adopted the mini
mum rate before the second year had
passed.
The Human Side.
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Element, the sociological enterprise in
/ the Palama district, was called to give
sidelights on different phase of the
situation than had heretofore been
brought out Mr.. Rath said he had
lived here about seven years and had
come from Lynn, Massachusetts,, where
lie had been employed in the blueprint
department of the General Electric
Company. He had also studied socio.
| logical and economic questions. He
met DIR. DOremus Scudder, pastor of
Central Union Church, while in Lynn,
and it was at his request he came to
Honolulu and assumed charge of tine
Palama Settlement work which was
first under Central Union Church direc.
ton, then under the Hawaiian board,
and is now an incorporated institution.
Its activities were largely conferred
in looking after the poor of the many
nationalities found in the district and
had also acted as sort of matrimonial
bureau. The population around the set
Element is largely Japanese, but there
are also Hawaiians of the poorer class
and a sprinkling of Chinese, Portuguese
Russians, Porto Ricans and Filipinos
The people work on the roads, the rail
roads, in the canneries, wharves and
factories. The FiTipinos were drifting
in from the plantations, and are con
stantly asking for employment in the
city. Some were not physically capable
of doing plantation work. Others were
husky. Spaniards with families had
come in from the plantations saying
they did not get enough pay. Some
went to the Coast leaving their families
here as a charge upon the public.
His opinion as to industrial condi
tions was that human nature here is
about the same as elsewhere, much the
same in the oriental as in the occiden
tai. He did not believe that small
farmers would come here to grow cane
when there could be no competition
for his product.
~Suppose the cane mills were put
under public regulation, 4" suggested the
Secretary.
NThen you might be able to do
something was Mr.. Rath Is reply. 81
don't believe conditions here are any
different than they are on the main.
land. / believe that the contention of
the Delegate that conditions are going
to be worse here, can be duplicated any
''AN'N SioS. Ohh
is that Hawaii is simply following in
the general trend of industrial and
economic conditions elsewhere, but /
don't see how Governor Frear is any
more responsible for conditions here
today than l anu
Social Conditions.
How far does social isolation cut
any fgureH" asked the Secretary.
al don t think it does cut any figure.
The nationalities are very friendly. If
you had been down at our settlement
last evening you would have found a
part Hawaiian teaching a Japanese to
dance. We had full-Hedged Chinese
girl teaching Russians to speak Eng
fish. As general rule the feeling be.
tween Japanese, Russians, Portuguese,
Hawaiians and Chinese is very friend.
ly."
Do you believed mixed homestead
settlement of Anglo-Saxons and others
is likely to be successfully
81 don t think it would. 1t might
on the part of the Anglo.Saxons, if
they were there only. Here, when even
the educated oriental goes into a neigh.
borhood of Anglo.Saxons, they do not
like it. They are perfectly willing to
furnish money to Christianize orientals,
but don't want them to come and live
in their midst" Mr.. Rath said that
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