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past twenty years a fcatherweight
scaled 122 at rlngside In all champion
ship battles. The recognized weight by
all countries for lightwc eight Is 1873 ring
side. Back in 1891 Kid Mccoy and
Tommy Ryan had the welterweight
limit at IA pounds. but 1t has been
placed OF late years at 1A5 ~ringslde.
The middlewclght limit has been recog-
nized since Fitzsimmons debated Jack
Dempsey at las pounds rlngside.
A heavyweight was anything above
l5S pounds until Lou IIouseman estab-
lished a light heavyweight class of la
pounds, when George Gardner and Jack
Root fought at Erie, Ont. back In 1859
My idea Is that there should be no
ringside weight, as 1t IL not fair to the
boxers or spectators. Weighing should
be at 3 o'clock in the afternoon. I have
advocated an international uniform
scale OF weights for years, and believe
a compromise OF the American. English
and Australian weights could be had.
for instance: Banta mweight. rs;
fcatherwaght, l2; lightweight. 1875
w~elterweight. las: middlcweight. iT:
heavyweight. anything over l6o: with
all Weighing at 3 o'clock IN the after
moor or seven hours before the contest.
7. :. ANDREWS,
Sporting Editor Milwaukee News
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WoIveyton at Last Finds Grounds
Dyy Enough for Men to Practise On

due to tho fact that some real sun had
hit their wings for the first time in two
weeks. All OF h regular pitchers are
fast rounding into form. They have
been going slow and have Just about
reached the stage where they will GU
lOooe
AN Of the inieiders got good practice,
Wolverton kept his men busy whdls
batting the ball around. Stump snt
Coleman. the new men. made an I'm
preston with the nag by the man
ner In which they handled themselves
around third and second base. StumJ
worked out at third. while Coleman
~practised at second and third.
A game which Is sure to attract a
great deal of interest among the con.
victs at the Federal Prison Is the one
arranged to he played between the
H~ighlandcrs and the Atlanta Club. Man
age Wolverton has given his consent
and 80 has Charlie HemphllI. The date
has not been set. but the game will h
played before the New Workers. leave
Atlanta. The prisoners will be giver
permission TO attend. and are looking
forward to a big day.
The New Workers. have not much
longer to stay In Atlanta. and they are
hoping for some good weather. so as tC
be in shape for the exhibition games or
the way back home.
Il think we are a lucky ball club
said Wolver.on last night. w have
o missed "A days work and the boys
are In fair shape. ] think that We will
strike home in good condition. In fact
We will he in Just as good shape az m
OF the other big league clubs. And We
have had some awful weather while
here
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The Evening World today re-
qussted opinions OF we'll known ex-
perts throughout the country on the
subject Of weights for the various
boxing classes. The question OF
Weighing In at the ringside or at a
stated time before the bell rings was
also put under discussion. In these
days, the weight, for instance. OF
lightweights vary from week to week.
One week will find an alleged light.
weight weighing In at 1873 pounds at
8 o'clock and the next will see him
meeting an opponent at 1876 pounds at
4 o'clock. There is nc uniformity at
all and there should be.
Here are some Of the opinions on
both subjects:
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TOM 0'R0URKE.
RiNGsipE WEIGHING UNFAIR TIC
PROMOTERS.
Special 70 The Evening wohdl

iSpecal to The Evening WORLDLY
BOSTON. Mass, March 10 Il firmly
believe that m move made toward
bringing the weights of fighters into
standard classes would prove advani
tageous to the sport. Am utterly op-
posed to ringside weighing in. as IL
gives crafty managers a chance to
bring men In over weight and thus for
felt. Consequently club managers are
afforded no opportunity TO secure sub
stitute bouts. Boxers should weigh in
at 2 o'clock. tho same as is done In
England. Would recommend that stand
ard weights he us follows: Feather
weights not over l2o pounds. light
weights not under ia3 pounds. welter-
weights not under l5 pounds. middle
weights not under lS pounds and
heavyweights all over l65 pounds.
TOM O'ROURKE,
Manager OF Al Palzer.
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JACK M'GUlGAN.
THINKS WEIGHING SHOULD BE
DONE 4 HOURS BEFORE BOUTS.
Special 10 The Evening World.

Special 70 The Evening World.
PHILADELPHIA, March l6. - jack
Michigan. the well known local hghi
promoter and referee. has the following
70 say in regard 10 weights and the
time for weighing In:
Il think the welterwelght limit should
be li5 pounds instead Of li3 pounds.
fe~atherweight. l22 pounds lightweight,
1873 pounds. middlewelght. l5S pounds.
and heavyweight all over that. I think
all Weighing in should be done four
hours before entering the rinE. rho
worry that accompanies ringside weigh
ing often causes a hghter 50 much loss
OF nervous energy that he Is unable to
do himself Justice, Ringside weighing
makes II almost impossible for the pro-
moter 10 protect the public. Y cham
plon who IL unwilling To allow an OPP
ponent to weigh In four hours before
the contest Is not entitled TO his title.
The evening world., 1912-03-16
BILLY GIBSON.
HAVE SPECIAL IN ADDITION TO
REGULAR CLASSES,

To the Sporting Editor Evening World:
There couldn't be a reform made that
would benefit the sport Of boxing more
than the bringing into a general stand
ard tho fighting weights of h boxers.
The benefits that would develop from
that move would be numerous. The
most important would be classifying
the boxers into their proper groups-a
lightweight in the lightweight division
and SO On.
II should be binding on the club Of
ficials that the boxers weigh In at least
six hOurs before the bout BY 30 doing
the public would be s~afeguarded. There
Is entirely too much misleading the
fight fans nowadays as to the respec-
tive weights Of fighters. Many q time
q promoter will advertise q middle
weight bout. and In preference TO dis
appointing a large house will allow one
OF the combatants to go on very much
ever weight.
The theory Of Weighing In six hours
previous to a bout is that In case Of u
misunderstanding or the inability OF a
boxer to make the required weight tho
promoter would be given plenty Of time
In which to notify the public through
the papers that tho bout was post
poned. The order Of the Boxing Com
mission that boxers weigh In at ring
Sue IL u HOOu III as lar rs ~ SOoss
but ringside weighing In should DC
abolished altogether. 1t was the Gus
tom years ago to weigh in hours before
a bout. and the idea Of ringside weigh
ing In originated with a few oxers OF
the new school.
I would suggest that the various
classes be divided into six standards. the
bantam. feather. light, welter. middle
and heavyweights. Weighing in six
hours before a bout, the legitimate BAN
tam should tip ITO. the feather 12. the
lightweight 125, the weller 10. the mid
dleweight l5S pounds. and any n over
1853 pounds would enter the heavyweight
class. So much for the standard ella sses.
In case a boxer be too heavy for one
group and too light for another. a spe-
| cial division should be made for him.
In the case OF weights. for instance.
there are any number OF boxers now
masquerading as lightweights at 1877
pounds. The old English standard was
Piss pounds for llghtweights. n the
modern idea OF las pounds developed IN
Bat Nelson's time and IL entirely wrong.
! don't believe In hghtweights at 1871
pounds, although that coalition would
he brought under the special class
provision.
With boxers fighting under certain
standards and the public satisfied they
are, I am strong In the belief that the
sport viii receive a perceptible boom.
WILLIAM Il. GIBSON.
Manager. Fairinont A. C.
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DAN SAUNDERS.
WEIGH IN BETWEEN 3 AND
O'CLOCK, SAYS SAUNDERS.
Especial to The Evening World.

ESPECIAL to The Evening World.
BOSTON. March l6,-Dan j.. Saun-
ders Of the Globe. n OF the best
known followers OF boxing in the Ia 81.
answering the questions ~propounded by
The Evening World, says: "A feather
weight comes properly within the weight
Of ll6 n 122, and the lightweight be-
tween Ig3 and 1873. The w~elter's class r.
from l4 20 1i2, while the m~iddleweight
ranges from 13 to IA. Above this
weight Is the heavy class. Regarding
the Weighing in time. between 8 n 5
O'Clock In the afternoon is very salts
factory.
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This could be prevented by having
two weighings, n twenty.four hours
before the fight, to give the club time
to cancel its show II things have gone
wrong. and the regular Weighing that
satisfies the spectators and insures a
genuine championship contest when
there's n champion In the ring.
The evening world., 1912-03-16
WALTER C. KELLY.
BETTER FOR SPORT IF MEN
DIDN'T WEIGH AT RINGSIDE,

IsIe'ial 20 The Kyenln2 Wlrldl
CLEVELAND. March ls-ln my oplu-
ion d genuine featherweisht Is a fighter
VINO IL able to scale at l22 pounds IN
iighting condition lightweight. 1873
welterwelght. lt2. middle weight, los
heavyweight. owe l5s.
While | believe a holder Of a title or
contender for same can Insist on
ifngslde weighing, I ,hink Il would ba
better for the sport II the Wclrh'ns
could be % u AT least half a dozen
hours before fighting time, for a hghter
who has difficulty In making "A certain
weight cannot do himself justice In tn,
ring II compelled 10 go into battle weak
from hunger. The weights should be-
rearranged and a clause inserted pro-
viding for weighing several EourI be-
fore the time q battle.
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WURRA WURRA,

WURRA WURRA:
] see an announcement TO the ef-
feet that Johnny McGraw. like
Mathewson. Marquard and other
ball players. has gone into the
writing game. lie Is to write for
the New Story Magazine. and IL ex-
pected to devote a good part OF his
time this summer I o that occupa-
ton.
Didn't Charley Murphy Introduce
a resolution or something before tho
National Commission last fall "a
prohibit players and managers from
doing this sort Of thing?
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am OF the opinion that the shoe
maker should stick to his lsst-ia
McGraw's case at least. :
What do you think about Il? n.
spectfully. GENE MIQUETTA.
Garden place. Brooklyn.
think that II McGraw will vrits ~
succinotiy and as forcibiy as he speaks
when ne IL going good his contributions
VIII out-kipllng the warmcst harrack
room stun that expresses the real fesl.
ings OF men who speak without putting
on the brakes but what paper or
magazine would print Johnny McGrav's
stun when In that strain? Not one. It
would melt the presses.
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Should Be Regulated Say Country:S Boxing Experts

% HE! This 10 a gratdsy for the once year Ifshman. II IL the cay
4 = the particular style of laAd to whom I rsMr swens ~ and joshss al his
friends bou how goo no feels and row proud he is TO be . Harp and
n Goes TO some fool dinner m listens to lot 81 oiatherskNes trk wvepinGy
about tho Dull Land and hear some Of hose professional stag wits. tell WTeach-
successive stories about = mythical Mrs. Clancy or sing some iuguhsion
hike te River Naney F5ops' and who goes non laden with dseo
souvenAsi in thu form osc Srbccn hats an dudheen pipes IN postal CORDS VIA
women with turnsd-up no@ And turned down red hair printed In . gree shARs
roc border. And the onoeA-year 1Nshman will tell everybody o4n@Fow
Out upon sucha vrxmhnt' Out aiso upon that almost extinct specsw knswn
70 TN professional rnshman who use the gnefs and hopes of Ms coun2y Q
stepping stone' to attain a sood,y store of tho srrcsadh.
n fsu&h. too. upon that most despfabe Of all Irshmeu 30 Justly NAMED
by Jim Roche. the patent leather Mick" We all know this breed Of tadpos
He In ashamed Of hsc country or his countynsn IN rice Z, sneak his o 10
social paths by 1eew at the efforts of honest. seifsacrMing men 81
women to benefit tn land Of their birth. He IL II the type hat attend green
whiskeed Seays like that n THAI wa recently egxcd here sE A
And that trick was worth tt-even IL the 81 did cost 90 cents q dosGn. =
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TN RESPONSE TO SEVERAL. BOXING FANS H. to how ayers shOu1A be
/ adjusted OF the One-Trme Hogan-Leach Cross nnsco at the Madison A. {.
. the other night. I should say that the Cross md of Il wins There In MOTH
Ing to q o oil except IN agreementb between the principals to the betting Tnsrs
He can. ID Tx Law dsausnfy a boxer for foul tactics NJ breach Of he
rues' M hat ispuahhcato aMs as m award OF vihoryt 10 the other boasr.
Ad here let mo rise to remar* that IL Charlie White had allowed that as-
between Hogan N Cross to proceed. I believe he Desperate Dentist would
W w.hoped the ITO tut Of ts over-nutd Ansth~ Hogan. I believe Hogan
70 De In m set II known as a "btomer" don't think he evsr hA q
lunch stronx enough to burst tissue paper bag. II he DID have it. he Ies u
somewhere between tn sand Lots Of Frisco nd tho Harlem Flats
AND Is FOR Cross. ne is n Of TIN most surprising ring comebac I have
seen IN a score . hal o years. Txke Il ron me. kids. h has IN xnnek.
tut ing In HIM. Ana the speed ne In showing Just o leads me to the En-.
c"hont mat 10 Ia good enough to- mako m Of tho Mghtwsiehts take q DrodA>
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HORACE LERCH.
aTANDARDlZE WEIGHTS 81,
HOURS BEFORE CONTESTS.

Especial 10 The Evening WorldD
BUFFALO, n. Y, March lam
heartily in favor Of Standardization of
the hghtlng weights. In my opinion the
legitimate featherweight class should
b i22 pounds, the lightweight ls3
peunds, the w~slterweight lt2 pounds, The
meddiswelght LIS pounds and the heavy
weights anything over this weight. To
ae13ays Asat yssnta ! bAusvA boxers
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Ism. who has witnessed all the blk
championship fights that have taken
place for the last twenty years and is
still reporting nights. says he believes
that the boxers should weigh In In the
afternoon. Ills Idea on weights is.
feathcrweight. I22 pounds: lightweight,
lS3 pounds. welterweight. lt2 pounds;
middle weight. l5s pounds. and over that.
HEAVYWEIGHT.
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WURRA WURRA.
What do you think Of a pinoohler
who melds 100 in trumps md can.
not score Is points 30 put him 0ut7
What should be lone to him?
Tho Bronx. JOHN NEADLEA
Nothing should be done to him. II II
quite possible to hold 100 In trumps and
not h. able 60 scors Is. Here. for in
stance. 81 q famous deal In which this
statement n proved.
Bidders hand. 100 diamonds. 40
pinochie. % kings. 70 spades. 20 spades.
20 clubs. 70 clubs. Ace. king and ten OF
hearts are In the blind. Bidder dis
cards those. That makes his hand
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YES AFTER HIM AGAIN!

/" A lce-Wh afer what?"
~, .u. n nD vernon tn noted sxpnrer' for White Hopes. H. md ais
ph neck McNenMs. re to sail for Europe in a few days to look owe to
" mite nops, 81 them In France and ths other IN England. The ssaow n
ahc mas been recommended by Victor Bryer. he we'll known sporting so
mWer f Paris who Is a great friends Vernons The Frog EauuG Hons lives
IN Vhchy. WORKING In the vneyards IL supposed 10 ave thu strength a =
PanamA steam hove and tho oouraEs f a Bsnymena amecock Breyer dnht
mention the name Of ths Frend, giant either preferring &c keep It secret unn
Sernon goes abroad or else It being M of those names that cal only h. no.
nounccd when o gargI.
I'M English White Hope II n native OF London m his name IL For Covl.,
lie I" mne b George Mcdonald. tina whom here Is 10 Brton kpovs
more ABOUT. the hghtng game. George himself says his Last summer Nj
weht abroad TO look over a Irish White Hope who lad been highly touted1 ut
wal ound wanting when looked wer Vernon ays he hs a huncb t.ts ~.
years trip will be more uccessnn
Maybe. bob. but have Al d-a hat J,ck Job,so, vu, h.,. u-- -
MS nh N be padding around with a crutch before m heavy weight WIN 3.
found of class to tackle hin.
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II stood for 'fS~uffragettss, end pusaes
Cause Anarchy"
You win do me . favor BY iett1ng
me know tho sddress Of the Q. p.
G. A.. a. ] have q crazy bird in q
cuckoo clock I want to give then.
This bird sQuawks twelve times
every hour. and he keeps me awAks
nights. should he be allowed to Do
TT sLDEPLESg.
No wonder you are slseplsss. 1AG
evolution and dkssminatton Of sVph
dope a. you write would foosle aay-
ibody's nerves 20 that rest would 6
impossible here or hereafter.
WILLIAM MERRY-Wrlte to the
New York athletic Club for the tn1or-
nation you seek about the METROPOLITAN
championship bouts. I believe thsy win
be held In their clubhouse.
The evening world., 1912-03-16
Veterans Playing a Surprise,
While Opponents Work Is
Big Disappointment.

~ GORGE SUTTON. tho veteran
billiard player. 10 being showered
with congratulations by HE
friends to-day for his wonderful achiev-
ment In regaining the 1871 balknne
championship. He defeated Willie
Hoppe, who had been champion since
The evening world., 1912-03-16
JOHN e. WRAY.
TO INCREASE NUMBER or e..
I0IRLES IN VARIOUS CLASSES.

lSpscisl IN Tie Evening World.
ST. LOUIS. Mo, March l6,-rhe diff
Guilty Of making the present ringstde
maximum weights for the fsatherweight,
lightweight n weterweight Glasses
indicates that a change 10 needed In
these pu0tlistic divisions where cham
plopshtn nShts ~ rpnoaEusA Tha nj.
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WURRA wURRA:

WURRA WURRA:
! read In the papers about . 80
clety man who arrested a New York
janitor for allowing his dog to kali
trapped rats, and got fdm fined q
by some wise Judge. In Ireland you
would @ transportation for firing
at a had landlord. but they would
"a o for killing vermln such a.
rats and mice.
! also read where q Gentieman
from Brooklyn who calls himself a
law-abiding man 1--WE are all In that
class In Brooklyn) wrote to send
the y. y. G. A. to take away a live
mouse. n II was done. The oop
on our block says that 8. p. c. A.
Stationary Post. Criminals
Arrested" told my boy 90 ask his
teacher II this was right. She said
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worth $50. His bid Ia 400 and WITH 90
ten and king In the crib he he's Z 10
60. But he can't make II.
The SECOND hand holds f0 diamopds.
: jacks of spades. 2 mines Of GodoA 3
Jacks OF clubs. : mines Of clubs an1 I
ten OF hearts.
The third hand holds two aces Of
spades. two tens OF spad -. W aces OF
clubs, two tens Of clubs. ~ ace Of
hearts. two queens Of hearts. two 1oGkn
of hearts. two mines Of hearts.
Every time the third man take .
trick ne comes back hearts. The bed-
der can score more than II points 10
tho second and third hands play Deep-
eriy.
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served.
As for the weighing.in hour. there
are arguments for and against ring
side Weighing. The principle thing
against II 10 the likelihood that .
boxer may come in overweight when
the spectators are in their seats and
the bout be called of.
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What Well Known Experts Say
On Boxing Weights and Weighing In
BOXING QUESTIONS
WHICH SHOULD BE
UNIFORMLY DECIDED

What's a bantamweightr
What's a featherweight?
What's a lightweight?
What's a welterweight?
What's a middlewedght?
What 3 a heavyweight?
Should boxers make ringside
weight or weigh in at a stipu-
lated hour before ring time?
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TOM ANDREWS.
WEIGHING IN AT RiNGSlDE UN.
FAIR TO SPECTATORS.

tSpecisl to The Evening Worid.l
MILWAUKEE,. Wis. March l6.-Your
request for my opinion regarding the
various weights for boxers received.
Under the present ruling and f0r the
The evening world., 1912-03-16
Some Insist That Ring Opponents Should Make
Required Weight Hours Before Contest Is Sched-
uled to Begin, Others Haze Opposite Opinions.

should weigh In about six hours before
entering ring. HORACE I.ERCH.
Sporting Editor Buffalo Express.
The evening world., 1912-03-16
George Sutton Regains
ISL BQLkLine Billiard
Title by Beating Hoppe

1910. At the Hotel Astor by . score Of
500 &c 81.
Sutton. to the surprise Of everybody.
not only outplayed young Hoppe. but
practically led from start to finish.
Hopes showing was q big diaappoint-
mcnt. While his playing was brilliant
In spots. his stroke seemed . bit un-
certain.
Sutton completed his 800 points IN
the hftieth inning with a run of three.
He had high runs Of 1o4. % and %, while
the best Hoppe could do was 81. 81
and "a.
Sutton started out poorly enough. fail
ing to score on his first trial Mt the
table. But he len the balls In 4 diff
ficult position for Hoppe and the
youngster also seemed in a fair way Of
falling down.. But Hoppe played q dash.
Ing three-cushion shot which was sue
cessful. II was . brilliant play and
paved the way for him TO make . run
Of q. sutton followed this with runs Of
Is and "A. Hoppe trailing along with
8 and cipher. Sutton was playing n
steady game and with the end Of the
eighth inning he h. reached the hall
hundred mark. Hoppe was four points
behind.
SUTTON MAKES SENSATIONAL
RUN IN NINTH INNING.
Then came a sensational run by SUIT.
ton. In the ninth inning The veteran
ran 1N points before he canue 10
grief on a short draw shot for POSI-
ton. Ills nursing of the balls wal
pretty to watch. and once no 30,
started on his run he played with
mastery confidence. Ills touch wss
dehcate and he kept the ivories well
In control by superb balk-iins play. On
his seventy-third point the veteran
executed a brilliant shot. lie scored II
near the top OF the table by = two
cushion shot across the table.
Scarcely less c%redltable was the re-
ply Hoppe made to SuttOn's big run.
Tho youngsters efforts netted him 81.
When he fell down on a shot around
the table. In which he was cheated
out OF a point by the balls kissing out
Of a corner. he had the tvorles In
good position. He made one shot on
a soft spread draw for his fiftieth
point which brought hin q round OF
applause.
WILLIE HOPPE FALLS DOWN ON
AN EASY SHOT.
In the thirty-ninth inning Hoppe
gained thlrty-four before his progress
was checked by failure to make a draw
shot. In his half OF this inning. sutton.
too. did some good work. lie ran twen-
ty-Hve. but like Hoppe fell down on an
easy shot. Forty innings Of play saw
the score: sutton. 3i3. Hoppe. $50. .
Sutton continued to Increase his lead
in the next few innings and fell only
three shy Of reaching 400 In the forty
fourth inning with a run OF IS. At
this point Hoppe reached slb. Then
came a run by Sutton. which for a time
bade fair to complete his string. lie
ran on sixty-nine and brought his total
up to 466.
Hoppe made a pretty run OF thirty
four. driving balls around the table and
gathering them together again. lie
made a great effort to rally and over
take the veteran but to no avail.
The score:
3. sSr y s, 0. . H. ~ I, .. 9 2 Il. IT, ID j. ID aot IT, o o. T. e.
Z p: Sse"' - IA, !. ffa'asi.' 80 :. s's s" !; i 70:
gs Hers .' 9. e e ''os,>,c%a'&,&,i ss.e55. Z. 3. 2 2, s.
/ la,.7''L Ta'al, So %''eias', : Si.o high
"I Referee % Han, crlns Of Philadelphia.
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The afternoon weights are preferable
as tending to strain the men less and
to allow them tim for recuperating In
case unusual efforts are needed to get
within the limit. Another solution TO
the problem might be to have the
championship weights stand as at PRES
ent with the exception that the contest
ants agree to give or take two pounds.
Weighing in at ringside.
JOHN T.. WRAY.
Sporting Editor st. Louis Post Dispatch.
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". W. NAUGHT0N.
BELIEVES BOXERS SHOULD
WEIGH IN THE AFTERNOON.

fspscial tn The Evening World.)
SAN FRANCISCO. March 16.-w. W.
NNvghtop, the veteran expert on pug!l-
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lowing table would Increase the number
of eligibles In the classes named and
probably benefit the other divisions: