Honolulu star-bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1912-2010, 1912-09-12


developed. and have now become yer,
very valuable; and 1t seems TO ma
when people went after those land.
they were not going after q home
stealing proposition as much as 20
ing after speculation. Those cane
lands were appraised, up In the Hilc
District, and turned over to the home
steader for $500 an acre. Now when
a man can get good cane land foi
$500 an acre he Is naturally out to
realize on his venture. I don't think
that homesteading on those lands Is
normal. There is more money in Il
for the man that gets them to sell
out. don't see how you can get
away from the temptation to sell out.
Fisher: Well now You can undo
stand, suppose, the difference b
tween having lot of small land OF
ers; and the system of having q "
large land owners. There is a funda-
mental difference between the policy
Of allowing the land to be owned by a
few people or splitting ii up among q
larger number Of people?
Theory and Practice.
Bishop: think that theory il alb
soluteiy correct; but when It comes
to working 1t out, you get into great
difficulties. Now take the Wahiawa
lands for instance. Those lands are
the finest lands In the Territory for
growing pineapples. They were open.
ed up; and what happened-a Settle
ment Association went down there
and for or 8 years almost starved
to death. And when they finally got
crop there was no market for it.
They tried various crops, all Of q per-
ishable nature, and finally landed on
pineapples. And now the finest pine
apple fruit of the world Is being
grown there! What happened these
men turned around and consolidated
organized In q way where they
could get credit. In order that they.
could build canneries. And that home
stealing proposition which had the
best promise in the beginning resolv-
ed back to corporate ownership.
Fisher: Suppose the law crowded
that they could not sell to corpora.
.tion or man who had more than g.
certain aggregate member Of acres
what would be the trouble of that.
system?
Bishop: II those holdings were In
the hands OF one or two individuals
] suppose 1t would be an easy matter.
for them to put the fruit on the trains
and ship 1t to town to the canner.
les.
Fisher: Now what that means then
lis this. Mr. Bishop. that these people
did not understand what was the most
profitable or practicable crop for them
to raise; and when they did find that
pineapples was the most profitable,
and could be raised with the least ef-
fort, they turned the whole thing over
to corporate manager.
] don't think that was it. They
had the fruit. Then came the Ques.
ton Of g cannery. No one of these
men was able to put it up. The in
terests we're more or less consolidate
ed down there, and so they finally
got into q corporate form and the
canneries were built and the thing
went along with boom.
So you think it was just q natural
outcome Of the financial conditions Of
the profit?
Bishop: / think so.
Fisher: is It necessary to CONSOLE
late lands and pineappIes?
Bishop: II might be necessary In
another locality.
Do you think it would or would not
il q ruler
/ think it would. They made q fall
ire Of It in Hilo where homesteads3
we're opened up to individuals.
You have spoken Of the pineapplea
It would look. then, as ift
ands ADAPTED to that might be pTac-
.ically hOmesteaded. What do you'll
mink Of the cane lands?
Pineapples Is 3 much more attract
i've proposition for q homesteadera
han cane Is.
Now tell US why. u
Because of the cultivation of 1t, Mr..
Secretary. The cultivation Of pineap-4
lies is not considered to be as laborf-
Jus as cane cultivation. 1sam talzing
at random. as I have never
,een in the pineapple business
Fisher: Then you don't think the
,eople that are doing laborious work !
N the cane plantations would make
,OOQ 0Omccte8uef1st u M00lQ care 70 Il
AXE up homesteads? Maybe this Is
Iue to the fact that the lew does not
them. What do You think
Il that3 II
Bishop: Perhaps so.
Well, they or their children win In
ime be entitled to citizenship. Would +
hose people make good homestead
rs?
don't know; they might or they |
night not
Fisher: Do you think there Is sub
tantial difference between home
teading cane, lands and pineappleI
ands?
Bishop: There seems to be to me,
rom my superficial knowledge Of
Fisher: Now with regard to the !
Jeane business generally. you are
amiliar with the financial history of
he plantation with which Mr.. Good. /
lie is connected? JJ1
Bishop: Yes. ID