The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-10-26
MORE EVIDENCE IN
 THE DYNAMITE TRIAL
HOckin Identified as Having Given Information to
 Government

Indianapolis, October 25.-Herbert S. HoclSin, a defendant in the dynamite con- spiracy'' trial, who succeeded John J. McNamara. the dynamiter as secretary of the Iron Workers union, was identi- fled by four witnesses today as having given information to the government against his Il fellow defendants. Walter Drew, New York. counsel for Q National Erectors association. testified
 that Hocl1in had said:
 T know they've got me, but l don't
 want to be the only one.''
 The witness said that during the ses- sions last winter of the federal grand jury
 Hockin offered to give information but was turned away with the remark, "Go to the district attorney and make a clean | breast of it. He is the only person with | authority to make promises. "Hockin came to me several times and told me my life was in danger" said Mir.
 Drew. He told me fellows on the Pa cific coast named Olaf A. Tveitmoe and Ed Nockels were after me and that I had better look for a fellow named John Stevens of Chicago. He said he would NdIH lllt ldltI NHci iiilShN CNPSNe NtRhA | ger.
 Another time he came to my room at a club and in the presence of J. F. Foster, l detective, arranged to let us have the key of the iron workers office, so we | might put in telephone device by which l we would be able at all times to record what President Frank M. Ryan and oth- CTS said about the dynamiting. At first l Hockin said, You know I've got too | much brains to get mixed up with Me- Namara,' but when I replied, No you
 haven't any brains but only low cum | ming and we've got the goods on you, he weakened"
 l MT. Drew related that strike had been cleared by the iron workers union in 1905 and explosions on work of members of the erectors' association began soon aft CT that time.
 1 Senator J. w. Kern, for the defense, l asked, Isn't one of the members of the Erectors' association a subsidiary of the United States Steel corporation?' q believe it is," said MT, Drew. l Hoclxin is the man who Ortie McAlanj-
 gal said put him in the dynamitng busi- ness and who engineered many of the
 jobs blown up by McManigal and James | J. McNamara He is also accused by the government of having doubled crossed,
 the union officials.
 Thomas r. Markey. photographer, tes- l tified he saw Hockn visit the grand jury room with bundles of papers and later l saw him in the iron workers offices when detectives visited it to secure photographs I of letters The witness said Hockin on l one occasion had said, i've got to get away from here before anyone sees me.' 1 Charles l.. Schmidt a deputy United States Marshal. also said HoclSin had WIS., | ited the federal building with papers. | Guy Caldwell, an elevator boy, identi- l fled Hocl5in as having visited Drew $ | room.
 1 When attorneys objected to a request | that Hockin stand up Judge A. B. Ander- | son said: Stand up Hockin. It's absurd | to ask jury totry case without know | ing whether the defendant is present. " 1 Hocxin then stood up.
 1 c. T. Washburn of Chicago testified about installing the telephone device in the iron workers headquarters. He said 1 it was done before daylight last Decem- Der, himself and the detectives walking l through the office building barefooted so
 as not to make noise. He- said the door was unlocked by Detective Foster.