New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-11-17


four OF having been present when Ro-
seminal was shot. Rose was an early
witness at the trial. but his three COM
panions had not appeared before.
The District Attorney, as well as
Weber. WALTON and Schepps, were sur
prised at the short cross-examination
Of these three witnesses by the defence.
They were kept for hours under cross
fire at the trial of Charles Becker. but
Mr.. Wahie let them go after few
questions.
The prosecution made point yester-
day Of calling in rebuttal several wit
nesses to discredit the testimony OF
Mrs. Mary Z. Kydd. the little old
newspaper seller, who told remark
able story for the defence the day be-
fore. She described four men, whom
she declared she saw shooting in front
of the Hotel Metropole on the night
in question. with an intentionally
close At to good descriptions Of Rose
Weber, WALTON and Schepps. Her testi-
mony was, perhaps, as important cor
roboration Of the gunmen's stories as
the defence had, If 1t went to the jury
with any considerable weight.
Deputy Commissioner Dougherty and
Mrs. Adelaide Hartigan, a friend and
neighbor, Of Mrs. Kydd, testified she
had told them she did not see the
shooting. Jacob Wick, proprietor OF
an all-night restaurant in Cooper
Square, testified he had known Mrs.
Kydd for some time, and her reputa-
tion for veracity was bad. Two keep
ers in the West Side court prison told
of Mrs. Kydds visit to the prison for
the purpose of identifying the four
prisoners there (Rose. Weber, WALTON
and Schepps), as she told them. Weber
was with the two keepers, and spoke
to her at the time they said, but she
did not recognize him.
Informers Examined Closely.
There was evidence of nervous expecta-
NlOll III Nllt NdiIIp VI tiC "sAN''
Mr. Moss began the denials Of the gun
mems stories by calling BRIDGE" Weber
as the first Of the four states witnesses
on whom the gunner had tried to fasten
the shooting. Each Of the defendants
leaned far over the counsel table during
Weber's testimony, and paid the closest
attention TO everything he said. They ex-
changed glances frequently, and shook
their heads in solemn disapproval when
Weber fatty denied the points in their
stories which concerned himself. MIR.
Moss sought no easy road by which to
approach the denial he was after, but
bluntly asked the first question;
OIL want to ask you Mr.. Weber, did
you shoot Herman Rosenthal? Al did
not.
& Q;1Did you, see Herman ROsenthal
Q.-Did YOU see these defendants prior
70 O'Clock on the morning OF July l6?
Al did; In front of my place, at 42d
street and Sixth avenue.
Q-Hou had a poker room there. did
you not? Ayes, before il was raided.
In answer to questions BY Mr.. Moss
Weber reviewed the happenings in his
poker room after the gunner arrived
there, covering short time prior 70 the
murder Of Rosenthal He denied there
had been any talk between Rose and the
gunner about the 'frame-up" of big
Jack" Zelig in his place that night, as
the gunner testified. He said the gun
men waited there until he went over 10
the Metropole and found Rosenthal there.
When he came back, he said, he an
uornced that Rosenthal was In the Metro
pole. and the four defendants got up and
went out. He said there was q fifth man
with them, but he did not know who he
was
The witness said he had gone with
Whitley" Lewis, "Gyp" the Blood and
"Dago" Frank on a previous occasion In
an automobile to the Lafayette Baths
looking for Jack Rose. That was the
night II was planned to kill Rosenthal at
the Garden Restaurant, at Broadway and
5Oth street, and Weber said he and Rose
and WALTON went UP there with the gun
men for that purpose, but the plan was
not carried out. The gunner testified
they had never been in the Lafayette
Baths, and were not at Goth street and
Broadway as Weber and the others t.stl-
fed.