The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1912-09-17

ity. Mr.. Kinney's name has been
brought in here. / don't believe there
Is any man who has done more for the
country than W. A. Kinney. He had
the audacity to make public ideas which
were opposed by the principal business
interests of this country and he has
been Characterized as man who should
be tarred and feathered. ANY one who
expressed views against that interest,
to use a slang phrase, gets il in the
neck. Mr.. Kinney is a friend of mine
and l desire to speak for HIM"
Il notice, however, that Mr.. Kinney
Is the man who had charge of the dras-
tic steps taken to retain labor here in
the interest of the plantation, said
Mr.. Fisher. Chow does Mr.. Kinney
.diHerentiate in his professional capa-
city, and his own public spirited ma
turef''
Cannot scrawi OUT
81 think he was one of the most pub
lie spirited men, replied Mr.. Carter.
The planters engaged him, and nowA
try to crawl out of it as 1 heard the
statement here the other day
They cannot crawl OUT said Mr..
| Fisher, after he had characterized the
arrest of departing laborers in order
that they might be held as witnesses in
the Labor recruiting cases' as ''the
worst prostitution of the use of govern
mental agencies for private interests
that has ever been brought to my at
| tention.''
81 don't believe Mr.. Kinney would
do anything wrong in governmental
matter" said Mr.. Carter.
81 gather this from what you say:
| That Governor Frear has been earnest
and honest, but perhaps not quite ag-
gressive in his coercive measures
against the interests.
"No, don t believe he has been
quite aggressive enough"
Land Exchanges.
Mr.. Carter said he was also chairman
of the advisory land board. 1t was or
gained to facilitate and prevent any
inappropriate exchanges of public lands.
He believed there had been some criti-
elsm IN the past, principally with ref
! erence to the two preceding administra-
tons, in making exchanges The other
object was to prevent any administra-
ton from parting with lands to inter
ests under lease suitable for homestead
ing purposes
Has the Governor ever attempted
to influence your actions3"
No, not improperly" was Mr.. Car
ter's reply. ellis connection with our
board has been helpful
Mr.. Olson asked Mr.. Carter what he
thought about a public utilities COM
mission-whether it should be elected
, or appointed. In reply, he said he be-
lieved it should be appointed by the
Governor. He did not approve of a
public utilities commission for each
county, believing that territorial com.
mission would be more practicable.
In answer to question by Mr.. Ash
ford, Mr.. Carter said his objection to
an elective board was that the same
class of men would not be found upon
it, as if it were appointive. He said he
would take chance on the senate's
confirmation of appointees by the Gov
ernor.
"They very foolishly confirmed nv
appointment along with others on the
land board" said Mr. Carter, adding
that he did not believe the senate would
do the same now. He said he would
take chance on the integrity of a
| commission appointed by the Governor.
Secretary Fisher said the idea of
county public utility commission was
something novel to him, certainly moth
, ing that had been heard of in the
opdtOb. IhI. SdIttT UndI 1T WOulO
be bad thing politically to disapprove
of good appointments of commission
of that sort. The Secretary asked
Prince Kuhio if he favored county
commissions, to which the Prince re-
piled in the negative.
! Mr.. Carter, in further answer to Mr..
| Ashford's queries, said that four dol
lars ton for sugar to homesteaders,
when sugar was four cents a pound, is
not fair proportion of the cash re-
turns. AS to risks from pests and floods
to the planter, which Mr.. Ashford sug-
gested as something the homesteader
would also have to take, Mr.. Carter
said the plantation would be at risk in
those, as the plantation necessarily has
to make advances to the small planter
q, and takes a mortgage on His crop.
Americans Not Good.
81 don have very much faith in
| the American homesteaders, said Mr..
Carter; that is, people from the main
land. think if we are going to get
homesteaders, it will be from the Por-
I tuguese, Russians and others. don't
believe the American homesteader
would apply for small holdings-and it
cannot be done otherwise here-and
would not be content with plantation
tent in social way On the mainland
he has the opportunity of bringing his
children up properly and as he wants,
which he cannot do if he is on a sugar
plantation. Under the community set
Element plan such as Mr.. Krauss de-
scribed, I don't think that would be
successful If 1t was for cane cultivation,
but for pineapples it might be-"
You believe there should be execu-
tive discretion as to the application Of
the laws, asked Secretary Fisher.
eyes"
Tom, Dick and Harry.
"Do you believe that the executive
should have discretion as to whether
Tom, Dick or Harry should have lands
Ito say that Tom should have lands
and Dick and Harry should not, - asked
Mr.. Ashford.
'fI don't know, but / believe there
, should be large discretion in putting
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