Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1912-10-15

SAM SCHEPPS.
NEW YORK, October 15.-Sam Schepps,
gambler and underworld hanger-on, whom
District Attorney Whitman's men seized
at Hot Springs, Ark, took the witness
stand at the trial of Police Lieut.. Charles
Becker today.
Schepps gave his residence as Hot
: Springs Ark He told of knowing Jack
Rose and former Lieut.. Becker. and of
carrying messages between the two He
said he was present at the meeting al
Dora Gilbert's house when Rosenthais
former wife made the affidavit 'biacken-
ing the gamblers character on the
night before the murder.
Schepps also told of getting into the
murder car with Rose and Harry WALTON.
of picking up DagO Frank and of their
driving to Webber's poker rooms Sam
Paul, Whitley Lewis. Lefty Louie and
Gyp the Blood We're waiting on the street
All went up into the poker rooms,
Schepps said. and sat down at table.
Bridgie Webber. he continued. went out
and returned with the message that RoS
enthal was at the Metropole
What happened them? asked Assistant
District Attorney Moss.
Lefty, 'Gyp. Whitley Lewis and
'pago Frank Went out
Saw Becker in an Auto.
Schepps said he went out later. He
said that about 80 o'clock that morning.
about half an hour before the murder. he
saw Lieut.. Becker driving in An auto
mobile on AID street. After the murder
he met Harry WALTON at the Elks' Club.
ne went to his apartments on 14th
street. and then to the apartment of the
gunner
Did they say anything to you2.v-s
They asked ME if there was. any mes
sage from Jack Rose. 1 tod them there
was some money coming to them.
ScheppS then described the payment OF
the gunme,l. Weber giving the money
10 Rose who handed it to Lefty Louie"
Schepps said he then went with Rose
the home of Harry Pollok and stayed
with him there until 1880 that night.
The next morning, Schepps said, he re-
turned to Polloks house. remained there
all day, and at the request of Rose went
to Lieut.. Becker's home in the evening.
Il said to Becker" Schepps continued:
Rose told me to tell you that he is
sick and feels terrible, and he wants me
to find out what you are going to do
Becker said: Tell him not to worry;
everything is all right. They've got to
prove who killed Herman Rosenthal be-
fore they convict any one.
Apartment Was Dark.
Il took cigarette out and lighted a
match Becker said: Don't light that
match here There's some one watching
across the street and they might see
YOU"
WAS the apartment light or dark"
Dark.
Schepps testified further that when he
left Becker the police officer had said:
Have the gunner been paid?"
81 said yes" declared Schepps.
Schepps said that he then went back to
Harry Polioks and was present when
there to get the alleged false affidavit
from Rose but said he had overheard
none of the conversation between the
two.
tyre Schepps admitted that he had been
engaged for a short time in smuggling
opium from Canada into Portland. Ore.
Schepps. who said he was by profession
"A portrait enlarger, denied that he had
ever been in the fake picture business
or the fake jewelry business"
Questions as to his family relations were
not allowed by the court.
ibid you ever run errands and do
mental services for Rcse?" asked Mr.. Nc
1ntyre.
objection was sustained.
Admits He Is Gambler.
Schepps admitted no was q gambler. but
denied that he had ever Gambled In any
Of tho houses run by Rosenthal, Rose OF
WALTON. He denied knowing a person
called Itsly. who had been mentioned in
the case.
Nh. NeIntyre asked the witness many
questions shout his relations with Rose.
ana there resulted several angay passages
ness.
In his narration Of tho events Of the
murder night Mr.. Mcintyre asked #,
While at Webbers, Schepps heard any
body say that Weber had gone to look
IT heard Webber say when he came
heck" Schspps declared. ''that Herman
Ia In the Metr0Dole'."
'Didn't you ask what Bridge meant
when ne said Rosenthaa was at the
Me.IegolsT'
Weren't you curious to know"
mo. didn't think anything. ef thu
announcement-nothing whatever.
Cross-Examination Of Webber.
Attorney Mcintyre during the cross
examination OF "Bridgte'' Wehber yes
terday afternoon questieaed tho witness
at length about Vallon's ana Roses
gambling houses. WALTON. he said. ran q
roulette game. Tho witness said he Was
out of town for two days after meeting
Becker at the Union Square Hotel. re-
turning July IL
did you see the gunner that night 20
II saw them on Saturday about 2
o'clock in the morning"
What gunmep?'
Lefty Louie. Gyp the Blood and Dagu
Frank
He met them in front of his door, but
did not know how they happened to be
ehere.
Had You seen them before?'
Yes. once at the Ozark Cafe Rose was
seith them and sent for me to get Zelig
Out OF Jail"
At the meeting at the Ozark. the wit
ness said. he did not advise against Ro-
septhals murder. nor did he tell Rosen-
thai then or later that there Yves . Plot