The Pensacola journal. (Pensacola, Fla.) 1898-1985, 1912-02-02
Took Lorin1er Witness
On a Hunting Trip
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Wordy hostilities between Detective
William ]. Burns and Attorney Han
ecy, Senator Lorimer,s counsel were
renewed today when Burns continued
under cross examination before the
senate committee investigating Sen
ator Lorimer's election. Burns had at
tackled the credibiIity OF Charles Nc
GoWan. witness for Lorfn1er who had
testified relative to alleged conversa-
tions about the 100000 jack pot fund
to put Lorimer over"
Hancey and Burns got into a wran-
gle as soon as the examination began.
This man has been insulting me-
began Burns when Chairman DiIling-
frllam requested him not TO interfere In
discussions between counsel.
You call him or I will stop him,
retorted Burns.
ell do just as l please the chair
man answered
Can't the witness protect himself?''
asked Senator Kenyon as he turned
toward the chairman.
TELL OF HIS REPUTATION.
This man has been bully Raging
everybody who has been on the wit
ness stand said Burns. Il don't pro-
III tell him something about his repu-
tation.'
( oh, I guess my reputation Is all
right" inferposed Hanecy.
The committee decided the attorney
must cease using language which could
be regarded as insulting.
Attorney Hanecy wanted to know IL
Burns had given the information on
what an Associated Press despatch of
January 81, 1912 announcing his work
ION the case had been based. Burns
said he had not.
senator Jones took exception to a
statement in the despatch that Burns
10 :
that his services had been dispensed
with only to be continued by the Chi
cago Tribune.
Il never heard about IT," declared
Senator Jones, "and as understand
it. counsel for the committee were
never told by the Burns people that
they had evidenced against MCGOWAN
and then the services were discovered.
Is not that so?''
NO, we knew about II, replied At
torney Healy.
'.Then I am sorry TO hear it, re-
turned Senator Jones.
Attorney Eealy told of the Burns
report to the committees counsel and
of the detectives report to the COM
mittee' when Senator Jones was alb
sent.
About the time MCGOWAN testi-
fled here in July" explained Attorney
Healey. Mr.. Beck. of the Chicago
Tribune told US that a man named
Stuart who claimed he was a chum
OF McGowan's was talking in Chicago
about McGowan's testimony.
Detective Baily, q Burns operative
reported that Stuart intEmated that
MCGOWAN had testified falsely, and re-
ceived money.
Bailey went on a hunting trip with
MCGOWAN. We were told, and got adj
mission from him. We considered
however. that it would be just de-
tective's word against McGowan's and
as the expenses were great and We
mended that the detective be dis
pensed with
Burns told of the statement that his
men had gotten no where"
They had worked two or three
months and did not claim to have got
ten more than alleged admissions to
a single man, uncorroborated" snapped
Attorney Hanecy twitted mr.. Burns
for believing what a private detective
had told him.
'The lawyers have not been able to
convince you that all detectives are
crooked p asked Hanecy.
''2co; ! include lawyers with crooked
trhe attorney asked If detectives,
agencies did not at times employ yege-
men.
Yes. sometimes Tor crooked lawy srs.
blow up safes and set papers that
LAWYERS want.
by the way. Mr.. Burns. you have
boosted publicly since yon have been
IN washington that you lie to news
papermen and others suggested the
attorney.
Eve cali it finessing of using sub
The ordinary man would can it
Iying?n
you do it yourself. retorted
Burns.