The Washington herald., 1912-10-04


Bliss together as having known Of his
first contribution. As the men were first
grouped by Senator Paynter in his ques-
tion. however. and referred to by the
witness collectively, this is taken to be
an oversight.
Shortly after he took the stand Mr..
Morgan was asked:
'You said you had several conversa-
tions with Mr.. Cortelyou. Did you dis
cuss the question Of contributions to the
Republican campaign"
mo-" he replied. IT do not remember
any conversation with Mr.. Cortelyou In
relation to subscriptions during 1901.
though Il may have had one
Denies Russell story.
Mr.. Morgan gave his name as John
Fierpont." Senator Clapp called his at
tention to a statement made by Charles
S. Russell to the effect that Mr.. Roose-
welt in 1904 had called Mr.. Morgan on
the telephone and had demanded that
he raise 100000 more for the campaign
fund. According to the Russell charges,
Wayne MacVeagh was in Mr. Morgan's
ONCE at the time and the conversation
with Mr.. Roosevelt over the telephone
lasted about half an hour
Mr.. Morgan seemed highly amused as
Senator Clapp read these sentences to
him. He smiled at the committee and
drummed his fingers on the arm of the
chair.
DO you recall an incident of that
klnd?' asked Senator Clapp..
Nothing whatever was the emphatic
reply of the witness
Q.-Do you recall any telephone con-
with the White House during
the campaign of 1904? Al never had any
communication whatever. by telephone
by mall. or telegraph, with Mr.. Roose-
welt. In my life. that i remember.
Dwell, but with his secretaries at
the White House? Amor with his Sec
retaries, either.
Senator Clapp wanted to know IL Mr.
Morgan had contributed to the 1904 cam
paign, and the financier. in a very busi-
ness-like way, drew a memorandum from
his inside pocket, again smiling pleas
antly at the committee.
Il did," said Mr.. Morgan.
How much?"
on the first of November $4,000 addi-
tional"
Q-Whom did you make the first con-
tribution to; do you remember? Al
assume 1t was made to Mr.. Bliss.
Q.-Do you recall the fact of making II?
A.-No, / do not but my records, which
have examined, show that that was
made on that date.
Q.-Do you recall anything Of Mr.. Har-
riman soliciting contribution towards
the close of the campaign of 1904? Al
do not think Mr.. Hartman ever made
any solicitation OF me.
Q.-And there is nothing in your rec
ords that would show who made the
solicitation for the 100000 or the $4,000?
A.-There is nothing in the record. but l
am sure the first one was made by Mr..
Bliss. And the second one do not know
as to who made II, but 1 think II was
Am / to give my surmises?
The Chairman-Well, reasonable, of
course. A.-There were quite a number
of people. Mr.. Bliss was one Of them
and Mr.. Odell was another.
Q.-Do you think that Mr.. Odell par
in the solicitation for the sJ0.-
900? ADO you wish my impression?
The Chairman-Yes; OF course. Any
impression Is that the money was paid
the National Committee. but that
a good deal of 1t went to New York
State. through Mr.. Odell. That is my
conviction of what took place at that
time. That was just before election day.
Also Helped Taft.
Testifying in regard to the 1905 Taft
Mr.. Morgan said that he had
$4,000 to George r. Sheldon.
the national treasurer. He also found a
record on his bank books of a cash pay
ment of $4,000, and he was not certain
to whom that was paid. when or how
Mr.. Morgan could not recall that he had
to any Congressional cam
paign committee In 1904.
Mr.. Morgan had difficulty in hearing
the questions of the investigators, and
he moved his chair up a little, leaning
far out and apologizing for not catching
their words distinctly. He testified In
reply to further questions that he had |
made no contributions to any OF the pre- |
campaigns Of 1872
Senator Paynter, a Democrat, then |
took up the examination of the witness |
and Mr.. Morgan turned toward him |
apparently with entire willingness to |
meet the queries from this wing of the |
committee.
"Mr. Morgan" said Senator Paynter, |
you stated, believe. that Mr.. Bliss and |
Gov. Odell were present when the $4,000 !
was contributed or was under considera- |
t,on?"
II think so, yes" replied the witness. |
Q.-Can you recall any one else who |
vas present at the time? Al am not |
certain. Mr.. Sheldon may have been |
there; I do not remember anything |
about II.
Q.-Do you remember whether the |
chairman of the National Committee. Mr. |
Cortelyou, was present? Do you remem- |
Der whether he was present or not at |
the time of the contribution or the time |
when II was under consideration? Al
No, do not 1t is possible. There were
several people present. 1t was quite an i
exciting day. you know.
Q.-Do you think that your $4,000 may
have been part of the Hartman s25oOOo
Al have no doubt about
it, in my own mind, but have no evil
dence of the fact.
Q.-But you feel sure Mr.. Hartman
under consideration? Ale was not
present.
OIL understand that the $4,000 was
given to the National Committee? A.
Yes.
Q.-And some. if not all Of it. was to
90 to the State? A.-Yes; it was the
necessities of the State that were the
object Of the contribution.
Q.-Can you recall whether or not
turing the conversation in regard to the
80, 900 contribution 1t was stated that the
Republican National Committee was un-
Ter some kind of promise or obligation
70 the State committee to furnish II some
funds? Al refused to have anything
10 do with 1t unless 1t was a question of
he National Committee. Then they
could do what they liked with 1t.
Had Many Interviews.
Q.-You are unable to recall whether
Mr.. Cortelyou was present at that meet
nR? Al had a great MANY interviews |