The Birmingham age-herald., 1912-06-06
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 S- Sanders . g lakes Some Sen sat 99l Statements FEW 9 GOOD SEAMEN Would Be Impossible to Man Boats With Capable Men-Great Diff ficulty in Carrying Out Masters

London, June 5.--Several hundred women of the fashionable set leaned over the galleries in the armory where the Titanic inquiry is dragging out its weary length to hear the continuation today of J. Bruce Ismays story of the wreck They saw rather than heard the replies made by the president of the International Mercantile marine were of the briefest nature. consisting for the most part of the terse words: T don't know" or that is outside my province"
 Just before MT. Ismay left the stand there was dramatic passage when Sir Rufus Isaacs, the attorney general. re- verted to a point which perhaps has been the most discussed of any detail of the disaster-Mr. Ismay's personal conduct.
 When the last boat left the Titanic the one in which you had a place, you must have known that passengers were left on board?" said the attorney gen, eral.
 ol did. responded Mir. Isnay.
 Where were these passengers whei your boat left!
 T can only assume that they had gone to the afterpart of the ship. really was not thinking about that"
 Sanderson Sensational
 Harold A. Sanderson. a director of the White Star Line made the remarkable statement on the stand that if the inquiry resulted in a decision to formulate regu- iations requiring all steamship companies to man their boats efficiently with able bodied seamen those seanlen do not exist in this country" MT. sanderson added the further information that there were not sufficient men qualified for the pur- pose" He said that 1t would be imprac- ticable for such ship as the Titanics to carry boats to accommodate all persons He thought that even in normal, fine weather they would be unseaworthy with 6 persons; 70 would be as many as they could safely carry. In rough weather il would often be impossible to launch the boats at all. Commanders are never ordered to make the passage within cer- tain tine continued the witness; some. times they were told not to land until a certain time.
 Lord Mersey: T have been told that the Atlantic liners pay no attention to fog, but steam just as quickly through 1t. " Mir. Sanderson sharply: Any man whc told you that was a very ignorant or a very vicious man It is absolutely m true.
 Building Life Rafts
 Mir. Sanderson said the company was building life rafts-flat ones, resting or tanks with life lines. which might be slowed In nests. He thought that five seamen for each lifeboat would be suf- ficient
 When the question of musters was raised. Mir. Sanderson made another sensational statement. We have ex. perienced great difficulty in carrying out musters.'' he said. first. beeaus, we have so many passengers that many of the crew cannot be spared from thel posts"
 He went on to say that part of tho crew of the respective ships were st unwilling at times that. they refused duty on the voyage. T am speakinl particularly of the firemen," explained the witness. The first instance oc. cured on a voyage of the Oceanic tC New York when the fremen refused muster duty. Captain Haddock 1oggef the men for disobeying orders. There was such friction that the company modified it's orders to permit muster al New York instead of during the voyage There have been two other instance. since
 Ismay's Replies Concise
 l. Bruce Ismay. president of the In. ternational Marine company. who re- sumed his testimony today before tn, British board of trade inquiry int, the loss of the steamer Titanic. wa. laconic. For the most part his replie: were, T don't know" or that's out, side my province
 Toward the close of the session sil Rufus Isaacs, the attorney general again reverted to Ismay's personal con duet at the time of the disaster, whicf other detail. You knew that you hat not enough boats on the Titanic [, accommodate all, asked Sir Rufus lean ing forward his spectacles in his hands "I did;v Ismay replied without hes. itation.
 50 that. if all the boats had Ief the ship. there still would be person, on ships" pressed Sir Rufus. Yes,
 where were these passengers wher your boat left?"
 T can only assume that they hat gone to the after part of the ship Ismay replied. T really was not think , ing about that"
 Discusses Lights Discussing the lights seen in, the dis tance by the survivors. Isrnay said tha hls impression was that the lights wer.
 
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