Evening star., 1912-11-24

thing more said.
A.-Well. / tried to get information IN
regard to the Los Angeles Times expo
sion and I was told that Jim McNamara
had pulled that job off,
Q.-You were told by HocKln, that!
Ayes, sir.
Q-Did he tell you where this scheme
originated. about destroying the Los An
geles Times?
workers union had no interest in It; that
McNamara had taken it up just for the
money that he would get out of it.
Q.-Did he tell you of q conversation
that he overheard between the defendant.
John J. McNanara, and Lynch, the pres
ident of the International Typographical
Union.
A.-Yes, sir; he told me of conversa-
ton.
ne said he had overheard between ]. Nc
Namara and Lynch. the president of the
typographical union?
Alleged Appeal to Lynch.
Ale said that they met in the lobby
of hotel in Indianapolis and that Nc
Namara asked Lynch-he said: Lynch,
why in the HI don't you fellows pull
something off out on the coast?" And
that Lynch made some reply that was
inaudible, and Mcnamara then said:
well. j can give you a man that has
got the nerve. IL you can get the money,
and they walked away together.
Q.-That is, Hockin said Lynch and
Mcnamara walked away together at that
time?
Ayes. sir.
about Jim Mcnamara being sent to the
coast?
Ale said that he had gone out and
pulled off this Times building explosion.
Jewel said after the Detroit conference
he returned to Pittsburgh and Informed
the chief Of detectives what he knew. He
was referred by the chief to William }.
Burns to whom Jewel at that time "a Few
weeks after the Times explosionl said he
gave full description of Mcnamara ana
Ortie E. McManigal.
Hockin came to him again at Pitts
burgh, the witness said. saying James
B." had bought lot more alarm CLOCKS
and explosives We're stored at the union
headquarters at Indianapolis. and that
he CHockin) saw McManigal leave union
headquarters with suitcase to do the
Peoria job.
II told Hockin 1 expected soon to leave
for Panama, and asked him hereafter TO
deal directly with Burns. Hockin said
If Burns would protect him and not have
him testify he would deal with him. he
would go to Chicago to see Burns about
III, WHICH ne ulQ- j SdN buIHS III A>S"
York in January, 1911, on my way to
Panama.
Hockin and Jewel Correspondence.
The government here introduced let
tiers and kilograms purporting to have
passed between Hockin and Jewel. Some
Of these gave accounts OF places Hock1n
visited and inclosed expense accounts.
One letter. dated November 5. 1910, from
Chicago. stated that James B. McNa-
mara and McManigal were there In con-
ference with Eugene A. Clancy of San
Francisco, and that the dynamiters were
to go on a hunting trip in the Wisconsin
woods.
Another letter dated November 15, when
the dynamiters were reported to De IN
Wisconsin. was said to refer to Burns as
1.-The agent" as follows:
Il don't understand why the agent in
Chicago don't do anything as 1t looks
easy I am certain no more explosions
will occur until ]. b. and McManigal re-
turn from the woods. learn McManigal
has friends in Tifin, Ohio, who has ex-
plosives''
Under date of November 26 a letter
to Jewel stated: Il learn everything is
at a standstill until they get over the
Los Angeles matter, then they will get
busy again.
Sees Agent at Chicago.
The last letter. alleged to have been
written by Hockin in December, was ad-
dressed to Jewel at Panama and read:
Il saw the agent in Chicago and also
his son. We talked matters over and
laid plans for the future. He said
something would be doing this week.
Relative to that part Of your letter in
which you say the National Erectors'
Association are going to do a little
shadowing themselves, that will make
no difference to me. / Will go right
on"
The meaning OF these letters. as
stated by the government. was that
Hockin. within the ranks Of the union,
was acting as a spy for burns. and
was impatient. while trailing the
dynamiters around the country, that
Burns did not at once cause the ar
rests which followed in April, 1911. or
more than four months after Hockin
Is said to have given Burns a full
description of the dynamiters.