New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-09-25
CR0PSEY TEST|F|ES
He REBUKED MAYOR
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sion assumed all responsibility for the
character Of the applicants. Waldo tes-
tilted.
! II developed nj the hearing yesterday
I That there were fourteen such cases
out of thirty-scven rejected by Commits
sioner Cropsey. While disclaiming any
recollection of the details Of what hap
/ pened at the conference with MIR.
! Creelman and his associates IN regard
! to the Cropsey cases. Commissioner
/ Waldo was loath to assume any direct
responsibility i'm the matter and de-
Clared If he took the cases in question
away with him, as Mr.. Creelman testi-
/ fled, he had done so with the knowl-
edge, consent and approval of ;he Civil
/ Service Commission. lie appeared will
! ling to share the responsibility.
: At the end Of long examination on
the subject. Mr.. Buckner. chief counsel
( for the aldermanic committee. asked
Commissioner Waldo:
| Am | right, then. in saying that
President Crcelman testified correctly
| in saying that you took the RESPONSE
bility of appointing some II these
men,"
81 took no responsibility. as lou say;
we took it between US" Mr. Waldo re-
piled.
Stir by Tarmany Member.
Alderman Bowling Of the Tammany
minority on the committco created a
little excitement at the opening of the
hearings yesterday by demanding that
the committee hold executive sessions
in order that ne might ascertain whore
the $4,000 appropriated for The work
was going to-
Il would like to learn something OF
what is going on on the inside" he
said, "as well as what We IAN learn
here. the same as any spectator"
Alderman James J. Smith ,rolongcd
the discussion 10y rising TO correct
his Tammany colleague.
~ understand that this committee is
meeting every afternoon and evening
he declared. "but the Democratic mem
bers are barred from the meetings"
Alderman Ralph Folks RcpIblicani
referred to the complaints OF the two
Tammany men as ridiculous. Alder
man Bowling wheeled on Folks with
the remark:
This gentleman is SO ridiculous that
/ never pay any attention To him"
After the hearing Alderman Henry
II. Curran. chairman Of the committee
gave out "A statement. in which he de-
MED the statements of the Tlmmany
members. Mr.. Curran's statement was
as follows:
The statements Of the Tammauy MEM
hcrs OF 10" police inv"s eating commit
tee about star chamber sessions ana
restaurant conference deserve UOtt."
only because they hay" been published.
These statements are entirely untrue. y"
meeting OF executive session o. IN"
committee has been held without ample
notice being given to the T7WWany mem
UUTS. As chairman 4 nave h'tll l'Al ~ nc
larry careful of tins. ueiua telephone. t'lc-
yrdUh and messenger. as Wei as tho mall
Furthermore. although the Tammauy
leader IN the board opposed the HuuiD !u-
Nestigation when ! urst asked IBIS coo
operation. I have offered 10 inform him
and his colleagues OF All plans within my
knowledge AT any time. They have not
awaited themS"lN rs OF TINS OitrT auJ have
not sought TO aid in the inquiry bUt the
offer atm holds good. This Investigation
Is and will be non partisan and impartial
Nor are we worrying about more
money" We have not set spent 5000
Of the 600, APPROXIMATION. II our efforts
for the striCtcst economy are successful
we need not worry about money for
many Gay.
Richard yelling member Of the
Civil Service Commission. was called
10 the witness stand at the opening Of
the hearing yesterday. He was exam
ined IN regard 10 the investigation
made by him in the cases Of the appli
cants rejected by Commissioner Crop
sey. 70 which he previously testified
other than the examination Of tn" ap-
plicant himself before the commission.
He testified that in some cases he tried
10 get witnesses to appear before the
commission and testify IN regard To-
the applicants. but was unsuccessful. !
Asked how ne justified the cer'iGca-
ton OF applicants who had been found
10 have lied about being arrested and
i'm other matters on their applications, /
the Commissioner said:
Passed If Not Liars by Nature.
In a large number Of instances We
let them In where they did not appear
to be prevaricators by nature"
Mr.. yelling said that il was very
possible that the commission could
have kept and should have kept a moro
comrlete record of the examination Of
applicants.
Mr.. CrOpsey followed Mr. yelling 10
The witness stand and stated that he
was Police Commissioner from Octo-
Der 20. 1910 10 May %. 1911.
Have you. like all former and pros
ent commissioners. save one NNaldol. !
waived immunity" asked Mr. Buck !
ner.
81 have" the witness replied.
The former Commissioner said that !
ne considered the character Of the men !
on the force Of the utmost importance. !