The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1912-04-22

Of letters. and the readers Of the Chief
tain will bear me out in this, that this
discussion Is one in which personals
ties should not be allowed 10 creep in
AS able man as VIM. E. Gladstone
discussed with the arch-agnostic
Ingersoll the question OF the Christian
Religion through some three or four
issues of The North American Review,
and they did It in a gentlemanly style,
closing without calling each other
names or without resort to innuendo
or insinuatlon as to character or repu-
tation.
When an antagonist allows himself
to be so worried that he tries to in
yoke the aid of laws to silence his
antagonist, then it seems to me that
his case is truly in serious condi-
tion,-he realizes that he is losing his
grip
hope that the next time that the
Captain copies the preachers effusion
he will copy into 1t in some place a
recognition of j. HIS Small Pox''
argument-the argument which was
first used by J. H. last Tuesday, and
the same used again Saturday by Cap.
& Co, without giving credit to the
author. ]. II. first thought of this
method to silence the opposition to
the idea that God so loved the World
that he intended to damn the most of
us all for his own glory. This dis
tinguished company of Superstition
militant defenders are in rather bad
condition, for their peculiar brand of
religion was under fire in Kansas City
last week. and two of their religious
editors almost came to blows over the
proposition whether or not a pious
man could be accepted into the fold
without being immersed. One faction
insisted that If he was a good man, the
baptism didn't make any difference.
The convention adjourned without taxi
ing any action and so there will be
trouble now until the matter is finally
settled. 1t should be speedily settled
on account of the souls. in suspense.
Thirty years ago. there would not
have been any trouble deciding this
issue, for the Elders would have con-
signed to the Bottomless Pit, any per-
son that did not accept immersion.
Thirty years have civilized the Church.
the christian Unity" brethren who
believe that the world should all unite
under one banner that banner to be
theirs of course. As said, thirty
years ago, immersion was the only
way. and it had to be done with a GER
tain definite purpose. Then it had to
be for the remission of sins, not Be-
cause OF, The Remission of Sins
These two deep-water sects then held
rival meetings and during the heated
terms-the revivals which came every
fall. some time in October. the leaders
of the two factions (sects) would not
speak to each other. Behold the
changel Now each one of these two
denominations will accept the con
Nerts of the other without any popish
mummery The main thing is to pay
the preacher, and that is really the
only thing left in modern religion.
Dance, play cards, go to theaters, but
don't forget Peters Pence"
This sect has a very strong body in
Kansas City who have modernized re-
ligion to the extent that they have
swimming pool golf links. Mothers
Club, Young Mems Gymnasium. and
all the other things that usually go to
make up an up-to-date club. The creed
Of the Elks ii lived up to is as good as
that Of the Church Then why the
Here is the bone of con.
tention. You must believe what? That
Man was lost and that Christ was God
and took on himself flesh and came to
save the world: that he died the death
on the Cross for humanity. No mat
ter how pious you are. no matter how
moral you are, you are consigned to
eternal torment il you do not believe
The Apostles or rather the Nicene
Creed OF COURSE. this doctrine OF the
Captains and his right bower is to
the effect that the Bible is the only
book of Doctrine; but they tthe
preachers of this faith put the proper
on the teachings of the
Book Raceoon John Smith, or Alex
lnder Campbell would not recognize
.his bunch were they to return to
Earth on a mission of investigation;
pet they claim TO follow the teachings
of the primitive Christians. Question?
Il they were right thirty years ago.
are they right now? have watched
he growth of the Captains sect and |
have noted the deterioration of the
body. and have noted the increasing |