The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1912-09-26

6pired 20 bride aldermen. and WE
leader in the graft" crusde-
did you. advise Brennon. Burns or
anybody else that the proper test 1or
the aldermen was to offer them mon
ey TO bride and corrupt themg the
mayor was asked.
Il did not" he replied. II didn't
know what methods Brennon was us-
inc. wasn't particular. For a num-
Der OF years we have had rumors OF
graft about the city hall. MY motives
were TO protect the innocent and de-
tect the guilty"
You didn't bring Burns here TO
offer money and induce the aldermen
TO commit q crime, did you?" coax
ingly.
Il can't answer that yes or no."
"Oh, yes you can" .interposed JUS
tice Jeffries. Mayor Thompson stud
led a moment and answered mo"
Denies knowledge Of Details.
He denied that he was present at
any meeting when means OF paying
Burns were discussed. He said he
didn't know anything about the de-
tails OF the plan, or the money mat
tiers, after the plan was started. Il.
didn't want to know" he added.
Mcnamara read much OF Brennon's
testimony. referring to the latter's
talks with Thompson, Thompson al
legged comments on different alder
men and on their attitude against him.
Witness didn't remember saying such
things. 1T was concluded that the
proper test was to offer money"
"Oh, remember now" said Thomp-
son. That Is not the exact conversa-
ton. That was the plan OF Burns
and Brennon. They talked about hav-
ing used the plan In other cities"
The mayor was not cross-examined.
Witness Green started bravely,
smilingly, and with dramatic force
Asked when he first met Burns, he
declared II was within "a or AZ hours
after he wrote letter to the mayor
which the prosecution could see IN
the public press" He started on a
long recital. but the Judge, very polite
ly. told him to make short answers.
There was something proyidential
about the way he had met Burns.
said the witness Mr.. Delano. OF the
Wabash, had Just written the witness
letter, asking him to get "a depot
or something for the Wabash,
which the Wabash couldn't get Wit
ress said the reason he was appealed
to. was because his company was the
largest shipper on the road. and his
influence was depended on by Mr..
Delano.
Then Mcnamara quickly shifted to
the graft campaign. witness denied
that was in charge OF the affairs Of
the investigation.
But you were treasurer? You
handled the corruption fund.-
1T was not a corruption fund.-" said
Mr.. Green, In rising wrath.
Wasn't Il fund with which to
buy the votes Of aldermen"
Witness hesitated, and then said.
mo-" Asked what Is was for, Re
arose In his chair and, starting the
finger-shal1ing with which he answer
ed almost every subsequent question.
replied: 1T was to test the aldermen
and show the people that those who
took that money we're dishonest ana
dangerous to public life
erennon's List Produced.
Mcnamara went over 'cBrennon's
list" and the amounts given by
Green, according to Brennon. Wit
ness didn't remember It. Later he
did. He lodged the bribery question
by this speech:
II was careful from the beginning
and all through that Brennon follow
ed the law, and that he more than
followed the law and handled the In
yestigation 80 that 1t was right, and
above the law"
Then he denied that he had IN
structed Brennon to offer any money
for votes. I
/ did you know he was going to
offer the aldermen money!"
Yes, but was the reply.
Answer my question" Numbered
Mcnamara.
Yes, | knew that they were going
TO give money to the aldermen"
witness, beating time with his index
finger to each word p
Now what interest did you have in
this matter?" asked Mcnamara. which
started the witness worst discom-
fort.
Witness said many people had
come TO his Office TO say that the aid
ermen were grating and should be
shown up; the public lighting plant
couldn't get coke because the rail-
roads couldn't get terminal facilities,
because the aldermen demanded
money from the railroads, and Mr..
Green's directors had criticised him
for giving away coal to those who
couldn't get 1t, Detroit being embar-
COED. He explained that a town was
embargoed by the railroads when the
terminal facilities were SO bad that
car, getting In, never gets out and
makes the railroad mad. At the end
OF all OF which. Mcnamara quietly
asked: Well. do the aldermen keep
the cars here?' causing a furry OF
laughter.
But the witness holly replied, Yes,
they do, by their demands for mon
ey."
For whAt?" snapped Mcnamara.
Tell me one demand that you know
Of"
We'll, the Michigan Central depot
said the witness.
The Michigan Central got the
depot didn't it, Tell me some more
OF those demands"
Witness couldn't remember any
more.
But the people, many people, came
to your office and told you about
these demands said Mcnamara,
with deep sarcasm.
Il went into this matter on account
OF a most dangerous thing confront