The Sentinel=record., 1912-09-24


 season and he was fine looking Jew, but he was no-good Jew and that he would turn his best friend and that he ought to have been bumped off long ago and would have been if some thing had not happened He did not say what this something was. He said the gamblers did not like him be- cause he would turn his best freind. Schepps further said one big mistake that was made was to leave the damn number on the car
 1 made some joking remark to Schepps about being jailed and he said that the only thing he hated was having to leave here before ne finished his treatment; that he would not object to going back, or would been perfectly willing to go back if he had chance to finish his course of treatment. He said he knew it meant three or four months incarcer- atfon. but after the trial of Becker was over. which he did not think would end till after Christmas, he intended coming back and finishing his treat ment and would perhaps have to stay out of New York about a year.
 GILBERT E. HOGABOOM. Subscribed and sworn to before ms this 23rd day of September, 1912.
 CHAS. STURDIvANT.
 Notary Public.
 Garland County, Arkansas. My commission expires January 9th, 1913.
 State of Arkansas.
 County of Garland. ss.
 Nickel Berchotz being first duly sworn, deposes as follows:
 live in Argenta, Arkansas 109 Main street l saw in the newspapers about the arrest and detention of Sam Schepps in Hot Springs, Arkansas. knew Schepps in New York city for 25 years or more and when I saw of his arrest I came over to Hot Springs to see him. Knowing the hotel he was stopping at, the Marquette, hav- ing seen it published in the newspa pers, when I arrived in Hot Springs went immediately to that hotel and called for him, presented my card to the lady at the desk and he was not there, but was out with MT. Howell. I went outside and waited and pres ently the lady came out and told me the party l wanted to see was there. I then went into the lobby of the ho- tel and met him. He recognized me right away and shook hands with me and said: l thought it was you Mike when saw the card. MT. Howell was standing over near the lady talking to her and Sam was standing near the front door. Howell came walking over to where Sam and were talking and l asked MT. Howelrs permission to talk to Sam. He gave me that per mission and we both set down right near the window and we both had a little conversation. There was quite a gathering in front of the door and MT Howell then went back and talked to the lady. and had l5 or 20 minutes conversation with Sam in the hearing of no one Sam would nudge me and in Yiddish would state that this man is all right, but the less he knows tlw better it is. While we were sitting there and during the conversation, asked him why did they kill that poor fellow Herman Rosenthal, and he said: Mike, you have no idea what q dirty dog he turned out to be at the
  last of it, that he had place on Sec ond avenue and had bunch of them gun men hanging arounn there and the gang wanted to kill most any one around there. Sam said that Rosen- thai even wanted to have Louis Kauff- man killed; and with that, Howell came up and Sam nudged me to keep still, and Howell said to sam: Sam, lets better go up stairs. invite your friend to come up We walked up stairs and I spent about an hour or more with Sam and Howell in the room. There we changed conversation to talking about old times that hap pened years back. In the whole con versation he never said anything about Becker to me at all
 NICKEL BERCHOLTZ
 Subscribed and sworn to before me this 23rd day of September, 1912.
 q CHAS. STURDIVANT,
 Notary Public.
 Garland County, Arkansas My commission expires January 9th,