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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1912-10-12
ny Cable to The Tribunal

London, Oct. 11.-Cable adyicei
reached here to-day that Charles >
Whitman, District Attorney Of New
York county, after several days OF
negotiations, had at last agreed to
give Thomas Coupe, the eyewitness
of the Rosenthal murder, the amoun'
the little hotel clerk has been asking
as the price of his return to New York
to testify at the Becker trial. Con-
sequently Coupe will sail Tomorrow
from Liverpool on the Mauretania
with Assistant District Attorney De
Ford.
District Attorney Whitman's cable
message accepting Coupe's terms
reached Mr.. De Ford at 1870 O'Clock
this morning at the Savoy, and Coupe
took the noon train from London 70
his home in, Preston, Lancashire, TO
pack his bag. He will meet Mr.. De
Ford at Liverpool tomorrow afternoon.
Assistant District Attorney De Ford
goes from London by the regular boat
train tomorrow from Euston Station.
In endeavoring to throw off the track
the emissaries Of the gamblers who
have been keeping close watch on
Coupe, hoping 70 prevent his return
to New York, many subterfuges were
adopted by De Ford, but the mys-
terry with which the latter attempted
to cloak himself during his visit TO
England, refusing at any time to admit
that he was here to see Coupe, might
as we'll have been saved, as the whole
question has been one Of barter and
sale from the beginning.
Mr.. De Ford arrived at Plymouth last
Saturday and came to London en- auto
mobile by easy stages, arriving on Mon
day, on which day he paid two visits
to Scotland Yard, where he learned that
the English police have been keeping
close watch on Coupe since the latter
got here Scotland Yard, however. told
Mr.. De Ford that they could give him
no help except to keep Coupe in sight
Mr.. Whitman's emissary accordingly
went to Preston on Tuesday, where he
found Coupe's father, who is tihe owner
of three drygoods stores there, and who
said he had an income of $4,000 a
year. He did not want his son to go
back TO New York. but Mr.. DE Ford
soon learned that IL was only cues
ton Of money with the boy, who. as
soon as he reached England, in Septem-
Der, began selling his story TO the news
papers. Coupe sold two stories for
Si25 each, and then tried to hold up
the newspapers a third time for $780,
but the newspapers refused TO pay.
When Mr.. De Ford arrived Coupe.
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PEOPLES WITNESS DUMB
UNDER ~GUNMEN'S GAZE

am neither long sighted or near sighted,
but sometimes my eyes are tired, ana
put the glasses on.
Q.-Can you see clearly down the court
room? A.-Not very well.
Q.-Can you distinguish anything at
the rear OF the courtroom as you sit In
the witness chalr2 A.-NOt very well.
Q.-You don't see very clearly, do your
Al see, but not very clearly.
Q.-What IL your businessf Al am
occupied with my own inventions.
Q.-Have you worked for leo anyone In
this country? Al work for my own
patents.
Q-Have you any patents granted?
A-One In In the office at Washington and
another Is preparing to !caye here for
Washington.
Q.-Is that all YOU have done? Ayes.
Q.-Whst has been your source of In
come since coming TO this country, A
That Is my own business.
Q.-Again ! ask you your source OF In
come? Al am not going TO tell you,
for Il TX nObodys business to ask about
my pocket ] am not going TO tell any
lawyers.
Q.-Were you ever convicted OF a crime
I'm Austria? A.-Again, that is my own
business.
Q--Agaln I ask you the same question
Al will net answer questions about
my personal affairs. IL Is a universal
law that q mans business Is his own, and
II Is also the law not 10 interfere with a
mans business
Q.--Since you have been in the United
States have YOU been convicted OF a
crime? A.-No.
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had gone there to look for Sam" Paul.
whom he wanted to see on personal
matter. He saw Rosenthal later come
out of the dining room and start to go
out of the front door, he said.
II was standing near the door, and as
Rosenthal started to go ] started to
follow him. when l heard the shots,
the witness said. II could see Rosen-
thai plainly from where stood and
distinctly saw two or three men fire
at him. There were four men In front
OF Rosenthal and they all had guns
saw the fash from the reyolvers'
Then / saw the men run across the
street to an automobile and drive
away.
Did you see the chauffeur In the
automobile?" asked Mr.. Moss.
Eyes, sir" replied the witness.
did you know him." asked the
prosecutor
Eyes, by sight" was the answer.
who was he?" was the next dues-
ton.
William Shapiro" said Luban.
The witness said he had known the
four gunner by sight for year ana
half on the East Side and knew the
names they went under. At this point
the four gunner and Shapiro ana
Jack" Sullivan were brought into
court, and Luban left the witness stano
and picked out 'Dago" Frank Cirohci,
"Gyp" the Blood Horowitz and LEFTY
Louie Rosenberg, touching each one Oh
them as they stood in front of the rail-
| ing. He identified them as the men
/ he had seen fire at Rosenthal, He also
identified Shapiro, the chauffeur,
Led by Lefty" Louie, the prisoners
protested that it was unfair for them
all to be brought in together without
any one else and identified IN tha'
manner. Justice Golf waited silently
until the gunner had made their pro-
test and then ordered them taken back
to the Tombs.
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Moss Springs Surprise.

Mr.. Moss surprised every one by
suddenly asking the witness II he kne"
Bald Jack" Rose. Luban said he did
did YOU see Jack Rose at the La
fayette Baths?" asked Mr.. Moss
YES, sir" Luban replied.
"Did you see Lieutenant Becker there
with him?" asked Mr.. Moss.
yes, they were there together when
I saw them" said the witness.
"Did you hear them in conversation
there?" asked the prosecutor
YES" was the reply.
How long was that before the shoot-
ing?" asked Mr.. Moss.
"A few days" replied the witness.
"Did YOU hear the name of Rosenthai
mentioned in that Conversations? asked
Mr.. Moss.
YES" Luban replied.
"Who spoke first-Becker or RoseT'
"Mr. Becker"
what did Becker say to Rose In the
conversation III Nh'Sh
name was mentioned?" asked the pros
ecutor.
Becker said" the witness replied In
a low voice, IF that - - Rosea-
thai is not croaked l will do 1t my
self
A deep silence pervaded the court
room and every one was straining to
catch Luban's answer. Becker showed
agitation at the tine, and
leaned over and whispered to his coun-
sell Mr.. Hart. He smiled cynically
after the tension in the courtroom had
ceased.
Mr.. Moss turned the witness over TO
Mr.. Mcintyre for cross-examination.
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Iissioner in his legal capacity.

missioner in his legal capacity.
Terence p. Casey. executive clerk Of the
Mayors office, delivered TO Mr. Buckner
all the papers on file in the Mayors Of
fee concerning the reinstatement of Lieu.
tenant Foody and thirteen other police
men. They consisted Of six documents,
and there was among them no application
from the dismissed lieutenant TO the May
or requesting q rehearing Of his case. as
provided for In the charter. In Response
to a request from Commissioner Waldo
that the case be reopened, the Mayor gave
his consent, but added that he believed the
man merited severe punishment.
The hearing was adjourned until
Wednesday at 2 o'clock
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Law Abiding by Nature.

Q.-You didn't bring the universal law
there, did YOU? A.-No, for that has to do
with this state. shall respect all the
laws OF this country except questions
about my personal property. have never
been convicted In my life.
OIL ask you once more, where has
your income on which you lived come
came here ! had 5000 francs
Q.-Where were you about 2 o'clock on
the morning OF July IS? Al said that
before.
Q.-Well, say II again. Al am not
the same tune over and over again.
The witness was ordered to answer by
the court, and replied:
II was by the side OF the Cadillac Ho-
tel"
Q.-How far from where the shooting
took placer A.-Ten or twelve feet from
where the crime took place.
Q.-Were you with woman7 A.-Thst
is my business.
Q.-Do you remember your testimony
before the grand jury In which you stated
that you were talking to woman OF the
street? Ayes; did 1t, and | say so
Q.-Who was the woman you were talk
ing to? Al don't know; she stopped
me.
Q-,Lld YOU Walk WIN her IN 43d street
at all7 Ave came into 43d street, and
she went one way and went another.
Stanish testified further that he came
to this country under the name OF Dario
Ehore. He had used the name because
he had travelled on another mans ticket
He had told persons he was OF noble
birth, he said. his mother having been a
lady OF the house OF Viomarusic. Her
name was Micheiena Stanish
The witness said he had seen Whitley"
Lewis and the other gunner when they
were brought into court before he testi-
fed. He identified Lewis first from pho
tograph which he picked out OF several
that District Attorney Whitman showed
him. He went to the District Attorney
the day after the shooting and told what
he had seen, he said. Stanish didn't ex-
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"TelI All" Rose Said.

what did Jack Rose say to your
Mr.. Mcintyre asked
HE told me to come out and tell the
court all knew" was the reply.
tpid Rose ask you to be a wtness?'
asked Beckers counsel.
Eyes, sir" replied Lgban.
''f'ell me why you talked with Rose at
ALL" demanded Mr., Mcintyre,
Mr. Moss objected to the question, and
Justice Goh sustained the objection.
The witness said he had asked Mr..
BHnton Il he could talk to Jack" Rose,
and Mr. Minton had told him that Rose
was there and would see him.
you say you nave gambled?" asked
MI, Mcintyre,
Just once in a while / blew In a few
dollars" Buban replied.
Idlban denied he had ever pleaded
guilty before Judge Mulqueen. in General
Sessions and had got off on suspended
sentence. lie said he had never been in
trouble until he was arrested In New
Jersey on August y.
Mr.. Mcintyre brought the witness down
TO the night of the shooting. and made
him trace his movements He said he
left his home, on Gates avenue. Brooklyn,
and came to New York about Z o'clock
to meet a young woman by appointment
in front of a moving picture show theatre
at 10th street and Fifth avenue Asked
who the young woman was, he said he
knew her only by her first name. which
was "Aggie." He had known her seven
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Becker.S co.npifctty as instigator OF the
murder of Rosenthal in support of the
prosecutions contention Of Becker
guilt.
1t developed that the Lubans, or at
least Jacob, had been in communica-
ton with counsel for the defence, and
Mr.. Mcintyre, Becker's chief counsel
seemingly had expected that the broth
ers world be important witnesses for
the defence. 81
According TO Becker's lawyers the
brothers had communicated with them.
and said they could testify to conversa-
tions they had overheard between Rose
and other alleged accomplices indi-
eating that it was intended to make
away with Rosenthal and frame up
the murder on Becker
Merris positively denied this under
rross-exsminstion by Mr.. Mcintyre,
and it game as an unpleasant surprise,
to say the least, TO the defence when
he testified for the prosecution that he
had overheard Becker say to Rose In
the lafayette Baths, at No. 400 Lafay-
cite street, a few days before Rosen-
thai was slain;
eff that 81 - Rosenthal is not
croaked / win do 1t myself"
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Thomas +. Ryan, chauffeur, who was
employed by the Cadillac Motor Com
pany and stationed near the Hotel Metro
pole on the night OF July 10, was the frst
witness called at the opening OF court
yesterday. Ryan was an eyewitness 10
the shooting, and the prosecution eN-
peoted that ne would be able TO identity
some OF the gunner, He was unaple 10
pick any of them out when they were
brought into court however.
RYAN appeared 10 have lost his nerve
completely, and fairly quailed before the
gangsters when he stepped down from
the witness stand TO look at them closely.
Mr.. Moss was surprised, and Indicated In
his questions that Ryan had told him. IN
the presence OF Policeman File, that he
could identify at least one OF the men
Justice Con- examined the witress at
length, but Ryan stuck to 1t that ne couio
not Identify any OF the prisoners.
Ryan testified he was only about hfteeh
feet away from the men who did the
shooting, and, though 1t was light as
day" In that particular place at the time
because OF the big electric lights In front
OF the Metropole, he could not recall the
features OF any OF the four men. Inc
witness admitted that he had said In the
Tonbs he was afraid to put his mana OH
one OF the men. He was AFRAID because
he feared he might pick out the WroHB
man. he said.
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Mr. Mcintyre led the witness rap "'as'
over the ground with the 1olio"ihe W.
tlons and answers st. ..--
owAre YOU brought here handGe ss
u 49,, Cit, Yesterday As .
0.-Have you ever oeeh
crfrne? A.-Ne. ,,,r,tirg a letter
o'-Do you rsmeplpe' III didn't write
20 Lieutenant BeckerF
a9oy -wsre you present when your VI o'"''
wrote to-Becker? z
Mr. Moss objected ana was sao "a
Mr.. Mcintyre produced three 'e''e''
asked - ,,o,r brother
Were you present when your
wrote these letters? .o,u.a
M MOSS objected and was sustained
~. McIntyre had the three letters
,oovkad for Identification ana asker the
1,Itness 10 tell him II they were III 'h'
handwriting of his brother
An ohisetion to this by Mr. MOSS ,"s9
.,,s,s,nsa and the defence took an excep-
tion. M Mcintyre continued:
O what has been your business? A.
Ac omWere you in a gambling house?
A 91%ers you IN the gambling house Of
a Were you in the gambling house OF
Jack Rose? Ayes u.,,.
6TDid YOU gamble? "A little.
S.-Where were those housesF Ain
o Mbo You know sehepps and Harry
nid YOU gamble with them? A.
with Harry WALTON, about nine years
as-wIth Jack Rose? A,-No,
o'-You were with Jack Rose yester-
o.-How iopg2 A.-Fifteen or twenty
Hi "a WHO was tnere? A,--Mr. Minton (of
the District Attorney's stafD
% eWss your brother therey Al s.
S.-What was he Noing? A'-WaiKins
around the room.
q Was Bridge" Weber there A
S.SYOu were never alone there yester-
o1 q nd Rose tell you 70 say ypu saw
the four meh you identiheq mere 'o-oss 7!
q Where did you SEES the four, men?
A'--Standing over there, this morning
q Who was with you? Am ohcer
Odd you hear their names called
q Did YOU see them pointed out by
Mr.. Moss? Ayes.
q How long were you IN the court
this morning when the men were brought
O. GWhere did you stop last night? A
At the Aston House.
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COUPE GETS HIS TERMS;
SAILS FOR N. Y. TO-DAY
Eyewitness of Rosenthal Murder to Have
Strong Personal Guard Of Detectives
While He Is Here.

thought he saw chance to ACQUIRE .
small fortune so steep did he MAXI ~,
price. Mr. De Ford returned to Londo,
on wednesday. almost discourage6 ~
planning to take a short vacation In
Paris for couple Of weeks before "a
turning to New York On wedps.s,v
night Coupe followed Mr.. De Ford }.
London with his solicitor, and went 10
the Savoy, where Mr.. WhitmanN rent..
sentative paid the expenses Of both
Coupe and the solicitor.
While Mr.. De Ford was busy A.
changing cable messages with the d..
trict Attorney in New York Com.
swanked around the Savoy with. /.
great air Of mystery and importance.
warning the clerks every few mluut..
that they must not on any account let
1t become known that he was in Lon.
don. Coupe enjoyed the situation thor.
oughly, and particularly enjoyed hold.
ing up Mr.. De Ford, who all the time
woo ucSohiiHS 1ioiu anu LlOro dis
susted with the meroensry character
Of the proceedings. 80. y
Coupe had zgain identified the men
In the automobile from photograph,
brought to England by De Fora, and
every day as tho idea Of the Importance
of his testimony grew on him he put I'd
the price. r.e -s sse,
The price had gone so high. on Thurs
day night that De Ford was very much
afraid Mr.. Whitman would refuse dea.
nitely. This morning, however. the
cable message came accepting the
terms, and Mr.. De Ford made the Anal
payment in the staterooms reservsd o.
the Mauritania for Coupe and him.
self.
Besides the money payment a strong
guard Of detectives was promised to
Coupe for all the time he is IN New
York. as well as an additional sum for
each day that his stay Is prolonged b.. /,
yond specified limit. =
District Attorney whitman received Z
message yesterday from. William A. b
Ford, the Assistant District Attorns7
who went to London to see Thomas
Coupe. stating that Coupe would return
with him and that they would sail ca
the Mauretania to-day. Coupe formerly
a clerk employed at the Elks' Club, saw
the actual killing Of Herman RosenthaI
and will testify in the Becker trial y.
Earlier messages from Mr.. De Ford
implied that Coupe might refuse 10 come
and stated that the ex-hctel clerk wanted
his return expenses paid in advance and
his life insured for the time he was abb,
sent from England. Mr.. Whitman direct.
ed Mr.. De Ford to bring Coupe With
him II possible and yesterdays message
was the result.
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uneertain Why Thsre.

o-whv did you come here? A.-That
IN eonpathing l want 20 know
Odd you tell any one Of this A
Yes. my brother. ,AiexsLeyy, OF No. 1873
forsyth street, and several friends.
Q ,@Whsng As--The hrst week IN Au-
O'ZDld you go out OF the city after,
that time .sAs--Yas. 10 Jersey Ns-
Q,5who. aSksa H9H y come mere 20
q Ibid the States Attorney In New
Jersey speak 10 you? Ayes, yesterday
I Q&Now. is 1t not a fact that last week
you and your brother offered 10. come
here. fand II the defence could get you
out you would appear for the defendant
Beekfr7 A.,~No.
Q.sgWil you swear that YOU did not
write 70 the defendant Becker and say;
"ThAy sFs. trying 70 frsme you rp ana
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Stanish impressive.

Giovanni Stanish was the next witness
called. Stanish is a rather distinguished
looking Austrian, tall and slender with
bushy head Of hair and long taperihg
fingers, which he kept entwining neryousIy
during his examination. He wore now
ing bow tie and eyeglasses. lie said he was
an electrical engineer and an inventor
and had been In New York for one year
On the night OF the shooting he was
standing leaning against the railing by
the Cadillac Hotel In 43d street, talking
with friend when he heard the shots
and turned and saw the gunner, one
with an automatic revolver In his hand.
The gunner were brought into court
AT the request of Assistant District At
torney Moss and the witness stepped
down 10 the railing and touched Whitley
Lewis Drank Muller) as man he saw
shoot. He thought that "Gyp" the Blood
was another one who fred. but wasn't
sure
The witness was turned over to Mr.. Nc
Intyre for oss-examination and tho
lawyer for the defence Immediately tried
TO connect the witness with the walter
Krause, another eyewitness, who proved
a good witness for the prosecution the
day before. stanish denied that he knew
Krause
The defence evidently wanted to create
the impression that Krause. Stanish and
some of the other witnesses were merely
cogs in the great wheel of conspiracy
and "frame-up" OF which Becker's law
yers are expected TO contend the defend-
ant was a victim.
The witness couldn't remember whether
ha had bis glasses on the night Of the
shooting. Mr., Mcintyre continued:
Q.-can you see better with them of or
on? Al can see without them, and
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Jurors Seem Alert.

Jurors Seem Alert.
stanish was thereupon excused anu
court adjourned for the noon recess Inc
jurymen who spent their first night In
custody at the Murray Hill Hotel did n0'
show any wearing effects from their I'M
usual experience In court yesterday. Inc
Jurors and the seven court attendants
who guard them occupy nineteen rooms
at the hotel. They are not allowed 10
communicate with their friends. Some OF
them spoke laughingly Of their "incarcer-
alton" and seemed to think that they
would enjoy It, They are taken to ana
from the hotel In several automobiles.
They had luncheon at the Broadway Cen
trail Hotel.
BALD Jack Rose was called TO the
witness stand Just before the adjourn
ment OF court for the day. Justice Con
was inclined to hold a night session, pro-
vided the lawyers on both sides could
finish with Rose at the session. Mr.. Whit
man and Mr.. Mcintyre both said that 1t
would be impossible, and Justice Goff ad-
journed until to-day at 10 a. m, with the
announcement that he would sit until
Rose had been examined and cross-ex-
annined
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subp@naed by Both Sides.

Jacob was subppnasd as a witness
fog the defence when fle appeared in
the Criminal Courts Building yester-
day He, like his brother. is also un-
der subpoena as a witness for the
prosecution. His testimony is yet to
be heard. Justice Golf refused in court
10 direct a subpoena to be served on
Morris at the request of Mr.. Mcintyre,
but he. did instruct the witness (Mor-
ris) not to discuss his testimony with
his brother or any one else after he
had given his damaging evidence
against the defendant
Norris Luban was the third and last
witness called by the prosecution dur
ing day Of sensations. Lieutenant
Becker apparently was laboring under
a great nervous strain during the tes-
timony of Luban. He whispered eX-
citedly at intervals to his counsel, MI
Hart, who sat beside him, and watched
tho witness the rest of the time with
glunn and serious countenance.
After the close of court for the day
Becker endeavored 10 mitigate the Ell
feet Of the testimony of the dark feat
ured Luban. He laughingly said ne
had never seen or heard of the man
before I'm his life He professed TO be
inclined TO think that the mans story
was palpably false
Assistant District Attorney MOSS
conducted the direct examination OF
Luban. The witness is a tall, angular
young man of sallow complexion anu
with dark. piercing eyes. In general
ASPECT ne is good counterpart lot
some Of the four accused gunner VINO
have been brought into the courtroom
so often for Identification by the peo-
nle's witnesses. His attitude on the
witness stand was one Of nervousness
which ne gradually eyercame. he bore
ia well under the sharp cross-eA-
animation OF Mr.. Mcintyre, but at
best he spoke in such low voice that
many of his answers had TO be re-
peated by the stenographer.
go Talked to RosenthaI.
In answer to Mr.. Mosss questions
the witness said he had gone into the
Metropolis Hotel on the plight OF me
murder and had been talking to Her
man Rosenthal, whom he had known
for twelve years, shortly before he was
shot. He had not expected to see
essential at the hotel, he said, prt.
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pect any money from the District At,oi
ney for his services, he said. he didh
need II.
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DENIES OFFER TO PROVE
'FRAME-UP" ON BECKER

that reputable people viii pear US out?
Al did not.
Old you say, "They are trying to
frame you up and will show you how some
people stand In the District Attorney
Ohice'-did you say that? A.-No.
Odd you and your brother cause to
be sent indirectly to counsel for the de-
PENDANT a letter written TO you by Sam"
Paul? Al can't remember. l can't
answer for my brother; j did not.
Odd the District Attorney state to
you that IL you testified in this case you
would receive immunity in the State Of
New Jersey? Ale did not. He said he
would do all he could for me II I'd prove
any frame-up.
Q.-When did you have such a CONVEX
sation2 A.-Yesterday.
Q.I,When that statement was made 20
you by the District Attorney was your
brother present? Ayes sir.
- Odd he make the same statement
to him? Al don't know.
Ole was in the room. wasn't he2
Can't you tell what the learned District
Attorney said to your brother? A.-No,
sir
Q.-Was jack Rose present when the
learned District Attorney made the state
ment to you? Al don't know.