The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1912-11-29
Students Forget Ideals in
Chmor for Real
Football
CONTESTS WITH EASTERN
TEAMS FAIL TO SATISFY
No Definite Championship Can
Be Settled Under Ex-
isting Conditions

The old. old rumor Is afioat again
michigan is going back into the West
ern Conference, or the conference is
coming TO Michigan. or something
like that, and every loyal MichigNn
student has his ear TO the ground,
waiting for the first sound of somo-
thing accomplished which viii place
Michigan where she ought To be.
i, The representatives of the big nine
are considering the return of Michi-
gan at their meeting In Chicago to-
day. Tie matter hinges on the train
ing table proposition.
Micnigau mas listened 10 the annual
sumor eves since the Wolverines turn
I'd their i;ices toward the east, and IFS
secrudescence now Is merely contin-
ued evidence that something Is wrong
sith Micnigan's standing In the world
~ athletics.
The old grads wso remember the
famous battles between Hurry-Up
Yost's football machines and Alonzo
Stages Maroons or Coach Williams
Gophers In the good old days wher
half the nation watched the battles
for the western championship, long
for their return, and most OF them
nave always been Ina favor Of Mich.
gan's return To the fold.
The students In college at the time.
however fred with resentment at tho
alleged dictatorial methods OF the con-
terence stood out for Independence.
Il has been q fine ideal that the cam
pus has cherished all these years. but
at present there are indications tha.
the student body cares more, for real
football games thaa Ideals. which
makes Il seem possible that there are
possibilities for Michigans return to
he conference.
AKf f,tifefa.is plenty of reason Tor a.
desire among the srudents for d re-
turn to the coed old times. Michigan.
alone I'm the west, a solitary giant go
ug forth each autumn TO do battle
with the insolent lords OF the east,
was q picture which the students once
liked to look upon, rhe fact that the
giant came limping home each year
with both eyes closed. few ribg brok-
en- and an ear timed. made no differ-
snce for time. The campus still
lung To it's ideal
Then came day when patience had
Il reward Davy Allerdice and his
band OF brnlsers walloped the east to
. fare-you-well. winding up the season
by administering black eye TO Mime
sofa, and there was JOY ON the cam
pus. Next year the vindication was
repeated. but did the insolent lords OF
he east open their arms and bid the
western giant become member OF
heir exclusive set? Not so you could
iotice II.
In spite Of Michigan's victories over
eastern teams even stranger In Ann
Arbor would have known that some
hing was wrong. In the conference
days a victory over Minnesota or Chi
cago carried with II very definite sig
nifcance. The victor becamn cham.
pion OF something tangible to east and
west alike. Michigan conquered both
Pennsylvania and Minnesota one sea-
son, but II didn't mean anything to
anybody except Michigan student
Minnesota was still the conference
champion, and Michigan could claim
rothing but a victory over the cham
pion. In the conference days Micnigaa
was either champion or the west or
She wasn't champion OF the west.
On the other hand, Michigan gninel
no prestige by defeating eastern
teams. even In years when the eaiit
ern teams were entitled to some con.
sideration by the casts Big Four, and
this year when the eastern leans
which Michigan met were the laughing
stock OF the east, Michigan's position
was suddenly brought home to stu
dent and alumnus alike III manner
never before considered By them
Cornell, defeated BY Oberlin, Penn
state, Colgate and Williams; Pennsyl-
sania walloped by Brown, Swarth
more and Penn State; Syracuse
swamp by Princeton Ga to 0. and toy.
ed with by smaller college teams
even Victories over such teams could
mean nothing TO Michigan; could fur
nish nothing over which the under