The Washington times., 1911-07-20

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Senator AIdrich insisted repeatedly
| that neither he nor the President
| urged the election of any particular
man. They wanted Republican
elected, and urged that one be chosen
Hines Story.
Hines had told the committee de-
tailed story about Aldrich going tc
the White House and staying till after
midnight. The committees lawyers
carefully refrained from bringing out
I any word about that White House
visit. So far as the inquiries or an
swers went the committee might have
got no idea that there was such a
long midnight conference. This deli
cacy about offending the White House
sensibiltties was a beautiful thing to
| see. -. ~..-r--.- $500. ..'.l~t
On cross-examination the suave
Judge Hanecy handled Mr.. Aldrich.
II was a pretty competition in po-
dripped from the elegant sentences OF
both. Judge Hanecy seemed very
willing to drag the President more
Immediately into the muck of the
! affair, but Senator Aldrtch was as
wary and canny as in the old days
when he used to- put over tariff
schedules with one hand and fence
with Dolliver with the other. ...
Judge Hanecy went over the differ
ent talks between Aldrich and Hines.
but got few additional details, and
none Of Importance. The Aidrich
story was calculated greatly to min
imiZe the relation OF the Administra-
ton to the election of Lorimer, and
to sustain the theory that Hines was
afflicted with a megalomaniac idea
of the big part he (Hines) played in
bringing about Lorimers election.
Did you assume to speak for the
President. as to Lorimer?"
II did not assume to speak for the
President. but may have assured
Hines that to me personally Lorimer.
as good Republican, would be sat
isfactory. His attitude toward tariff
did not occur to me-
publican" asked Senator Kenyon.
"a loyal supporter of the President
and the Administration"
Were there Republicans In the Sen
ate at that time that you considered bad
well, 1 don't think I ought to pass
on my associates. I am not the final
arbiter."
That Conference.
about the White House conference
when he got home and Hines was
awaiting him. But whether there was
a meeting Of the Finance Committee
that night he did not recall. He did
believe that he was delayed in seeing
the President, and that was the rea-
son for getting back home Iate-maybe
1880 or II o'clock.
And did YOU not tell Hines that
Lorimer would be agreeable to the
President and to you as party leaders,
self wished that Republican Sen
ator be elected, and that Mr.. Lorimer's
Republicanism was unobjectionable to
the President. and his election woulc
be satisfactory"
You knew Hines was about leaving
for Illinois?"
He had SO told me-"
And you said that If ANYBODY want
ed confirmation of the statement that
Lorimer was unobjectionable he might
ask you?''
Yes, that is the case"
The President and you both wanted
two Republican Senator's"
Yes
might fail TO elect?"
Yes"
And it was known that there was
already an actual Senatorial vacancy
at that time?'
"Of course"
Senator Kenyon wanted very specif-
cally to know whether, Mr.. Taft ac-
lively wanted Lorimer to be a can
didate, or merely was willing that he
should be elected. Mr.. Aldrich in
sisted that the President was mere
ly willing to have Lorimer elected.
Then Judge Hanecy read the state
ment issued a few weeks ago by
President Taft in which the President
said he was asked to send a telegram
urging Lorimer to be candidate, and
"Does that refresh your memory"
asked Judge Hanecy. "as to whether
you asked the President to make a
statement of his position in a tele-
gram"
Here was the issue. The Taft state
merIt had declared that somebody
asked Taft to send such a telegram.
Aldrich promptly. denied IT..
mo such request was made Of the
President by me-" he said positively.
egram favoring Lorimer, who was 1t?
Aldrlch says he did not do It. The
President says he was asked" to do
1t.
The statement by President Taft will
need amplification before this will be
clear.
did the President at any time mani
fest desire or anxiety to have Lorimer
elected?" asked Senator Kenyon.
Would Not Amplify.
Il do not think 1 care to go into my
conversations with the President. The
facts are as I have stated them, and I
was sure acted with authority in say
ing to Mr. Hines what did say
You never intended to authorize
Hines to go to Illinois and use the
Presidents name in favor Of Lorimer?"
Il did not"
You were friendly to Senator Hop
kins?''
I'VE were both Senator'S"
But were you friendly to him?'
'Td rather not go into those per-
Did you object to the Vice Presi-
dent appointing Hopkins on the none
Il objected to any vacancies being
filled. because ! did not believe the
law contemplated that"
Was Hopkins a follower Of yours?"
ct don't know"
''Well, there wasn't any question who
was the leader of the Senate. was
Don't let modesty interfere now. SEN
"Why, yes. then there was a good
deal OF question: replied Senator Al
drich, with a dry laugh.
''Been growing, too, hasn't it?'
'It has out in Iowa." was the retort
courteous.
Then Aldrich and Kenyon vert to the
mat. Aldrich became exceeding curt
and refused to look toward Kenyon, an
swering in monosyllahlcs. or protesting.
1--we already answered that question"
Have YOU been interested In the cleo
tion Of Senators ir other States than
Illinois,
Yes"
Have You taken as keen an interest