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The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
GREAT RACE WON
BY MISS Stokes

Roadvi!le. Mass., September Miss
Stokes, owned and bred By e. d. Stokes. of
New York. was handy winner OF the
.America9 Horse Breeders Futurity. valued
at $500. OF which $500 goes to tho nrst
horse. the Grand Circuit meet at Read
Vile to-day. II marked the opening OF the
meet rain having caused postponement
since Tuesday The track was heavy
The 2;l6 trot IVES this best race OF the
day. Eva Tansuay gained the first heat by
n neck from Baron Aberdeen The second
heat looked like a dead heat between Peter
Red and Eva Tanguay, but the judges saw
Peter Arst. and he had speed to spare in
the remaining heats. Summary:
American Horsebreeders' FNtuy1ty, trot-
ting; purse. 1900: toals OF 1868: two heats
Miss Stokes b. Z. by Peter the Great, frstl
Box. blk. C., second; Peter Thompson b. e.
third. Best time. 2:12A.
Breeder futurlty, trotting; purse 5000:
foals Of l9o9-Princess Todd. blk e. Nv KEN
lucky Todd. frat; Junior Watts b. c., sec
ond; The Amazon. b T.. third. Bes. time,
2:i7is.
Breeder tuturty, pacing: purse. 5000:
foals OF ls1s-Miss DeForest b. g.. by the
DeForest hrst; Fleeth Americas br f., sec
ond: Olive o'Bierne. b. t.. third Best time
2:iii..
2:ls class. ,ro,ting; purse. si.ooo-peter
Red. b. H.. By Peter the Great, frst; Eva
Tanguay, b. M. second: Baron Aberdeen
DR. g.. third. Best timo, 2:l2A.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
bYR D R|O|CULES
JONES AND GLASS
Calls Them Only Men in Coun-
try Ignorant of New Pub
licity Law"
Especial to The Times.Disnotcb

special to The Times Dispatch
: farmville. Va, September lion
r. r. Byrd addressed n large audience
ol representative business men ana
voters here this evening. lie denounced
que as the beneficiary of the ma.
chine and now singing the bosom
mat warmed him. paid glowing
'riou'e TO Senator Martin and warned
AGAINST the national and State caliamit,.
OF dlsplacing such representative
win one long tried and found
wanting. His defense of Virginia
democracy and especially Swanson's
administration as Governor was
strong He held up to ridicule Con
eressmen Jones and Glass ms the
ohS TWO men in this country who
were Ignorant OF the provisions OF tho
puohcity law and said they would
nave plenty of time to 20 10 taiI
AFTER the primary" He predicted
ana held up Senator Martin ms thcn
the second man In the nation.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

LACKS AUTHORITY
TO GUST CHAIRMAN
Subcommittee Without Jurisdic-
ton to Act on Pitcher
Resolution.
DID NOT USE STATES BOOK
Registrar Testifes That He
Bought His Own Rcgistra-
ton Book.
DID NOT USE STATES BOOK
Especial to The Times.Dispatch.1

b''itNidi " Ht llIneS- DlSDatCh.1
Norfolk. Va. September THAT the
subcommittee of tho Democratic state
committee has reached the decision
that IT has no jurisdiction to act on
the resolution offered by George
Pitcher one of the attorneys for the
F'usionists, asking that w. NJ McAiIis-
ter, It's chairman, be barred from fur
Their PARTICIPATION in the investiga ton.
leaked out tonight. although the de-
cision has not been formally announced.
MIR McAllister told the committed
after this decision was reached this
afternoon that he would preside al all
or the remaining sessions of the in
vestigation.
The sensation to- day was the de-
velopment on cross examination Of w.
c. Meginley. registrar at South Norfolk
and mcmber of the county committee,
that his registration book was not
that furnished by tho State. but a book
purchased by himself. and that he had
not required applicants for registra
ton to nile the written application re-
quired by law. and that many of the
persons registering were not required
to subscribe to the required oath
When this admission was made by
Mr. Meginley, the attorneys for the
contestees strenuously objected. They
contendcd that since illegal registra-
tloN In that precinct was iiHiiteu :"
three names in the complaint, that
the testimony should not go beyond
that When the testimony WAS ad-
mitted, the Fusion attorneys asked
for conference After being in a
private room some time. they sent
for the committee The committee.
however, went into executive session
and debated the matter among them
selves for over an hour. without ar
rivinG at q decision.
1t is contendcd that the admission
OF such testimony Will lead to pro-
longed hearing and bring the registrar
into a controversy that might be more
far-reachng than has yet been con-
templated.
Other testimony to-day, offered by
the contestees. was in rebuttal of evil
dence submitted by the Straightouts,
and was mostly detail enumeration of
alleged illegal voting.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
Correction to Schedule
Chesapeake & Ohio nv.

Effective sunday, September 3. Noun
tain Special leaving Richmond 11:45
discontinued: also train arriving Rich
mond from Charlottesville $50 P NJ
Train leaving Richmond $3.50 A NJ
daily. except Sunday. to Thurmond. w
Va, carrying parlor car Richmond to
Hinton Train Will arrive Richmond
7:15 =. NJ. daily from Charlottesville
and daily. except Sunday, from Thur
mond. instead OF 625 p. NJ. carrying
parior car Hinton to Richmond
Train arriving Richmond $3.50 A NJ
of from Clifton Forge. being daily, in
stead of daily except Sunday; this
train operating from Waynesboro.
however. the first three Mondays In
September.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
Around the Hotels

Lonnston-J. y. Lane. Esmen,; j. u
Glenn, South Boston; Miss p A. Kidd.
south Boston: r. w. Couper. Saw York: @
S. Guy. Petersburg: w II. railey. Peters
burg; George K. Potts. Barhamsvile: ].
~; thompson. Lexington: W. w. Marston.
hsai,isiha; j H. Cox. virginia: T. A. Camp
Sheetz. Roanoke: A. l.. Ludhado, scotts-
vile; +. c. Link Portsmouth,; j. II pil-
,ard Lynchburg: W. W. Gr'.iner. NOrang-;
Sen s. ,r !; -. gam m;, charlottesville; a. w
DaNs--Wiiliam McReynoldn vini,n: N.
7: Altabrook. Lorraine: H w L,nkou.
s she!tar; II. J. Parker. Virginia; F. A.
thompson. Virginia
d: Mo,Et. Norris b. Mount saitviile: Mr.
ana Mrs. +. II. Martin and boy Gloucosto,
county ii. X. Terry, South Boston; ID. y.
rrwyman. Appomattox: w, II. West. old
L; Gregory. King William: (Mary J. Carr,
Gloucester: D. p. Pharr. covington: "a ~
Eppes. Norfolk. l.. p. S,earnes Newport
Jaws MT. and Mrs @. II. Tonpkins and
daughter. clifton Forge; Miss Ella G Az
new Bnrkeyiile; X. p. Blrckhead Clara
mont; w r sullivan. boswell: Thomas ~
". virginia; E. L. Petty. virginia
W; ~ Carieo. Cochurn: II c. Dawton, Keya-
vie: James Hardy. Chase City, 4
fhrk-J. H. Harris, Alexandria; c. -
Jones. Roanoke: ]. p. Geyer. chatham. &
observation-disclosures l.. West. Newpor. So
j. A Dexter, Norfolk; Mira Norton VIZ
ana chiid Miss Watson. CharloiicsyIlIu:S-
X. Goolink. Charlottesville: c. A. Gre.a%
Ivy Deport: A. VI. Howison. Stanton; = EN
Sp'ecs ana son. Rea!ns a s. Pope. Norfolk:
r. G. jeffrey. Arvonis w II stcsci
S'aIksy,le /: Douthat, weyanoke. y
stumprs-M. J Gririn, virginia: " W
Mercereau, stanton: d. F. Shanehsn Vir-
gina. hobart 5. Page Gotham.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
5VGES MADE TO
'ETOBJECTIONS
!sntinued From r1rst Page.)

w the central bureau. as pro
might be construed as placing
nal responsibility upon the ex-
buying banks for genuineness
Il ESs of lading.
q ooviate the first objection IT was
u steo, With the assent of the rep.
II sf1tive of the foreign interests
HfSthe ceh---.. bureau instead of
Esg acknowledgements of each bill
ing In response to notification.
4 5f give no information TO any one
rned. except only in cases where
'ular bills of lading had been
II forged or otherwise ineffective
4 preventing the pyramiding or ac-
laton of losses. The committee
dered that the change thus pro-
J would remove the first objection
TO the second objection. tho in
was specifically made OF the
sentative of the foreign interests
iher 1t was the intention of the
gn bankers to refuse or delay the
otance of drafts until they would
- .-om the central bureau He re-
that such an idea had never been
ftained; that the central bureau
% expected TO receive an appl!ca-
~ from European bankers at all.
l nobody has even thought OF such
wing. The committee reached the
fusion that there was no ground
kAe. second objection. and tina. in
IT bills Will, IS heretofore, be hon
on presentation. in accordance
! thcir terms, both in this country
abroad, and without regard to any
X OF Investigation by the central
eau.
Concerning the third objection. the
ho III, I'll
4erican bank could be assumed to
sc closer information OF the respon-
,!lityi OF its clients. and that even
sumirg failure 10 properly dis
m!nhte in the selection of its agents
foreign buyer, the loss from any
sflent transactions. in view of the
IS OF the central bureau. would
IF comparatively tr!fling character
with regard 10 the fourth obec-
N, concerning responsibility from
form of notification, this question
Is submitted TO the general counsel
the American B%akers' Association.
d such change was made by him in
ID draft as to make ii clear that the
TX handling the bill OF lading held
1 same a a pledge merely for coll
sIral security, and assumed no re-
1sibility for Its genuineness or for
quantity or quality of the cotton
kribed therein,
Should Have Triul.
All the objections being eliminated.
. committee reached the conclusion
At the plan was n valuable one in
feguarding against forgery. and
ould have at least a fair trial.
The committee therefore recon-
ends that with the changes above
the proposed plan for the
of a central bureau in
~ York City be given favorable
nsideration by the exchange buying
INKS of the country. and announces
ut in making this recommendation
does not in any manner wish to
nvey, the impression that the pro-
sedJplan is to at all interfere with
q main purpose of the committee in
curing legislation now before Con-
ess in the form OF the Stevens bill"
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
RAILROAD REJECTS
| DEMANDS OF MEN
CONTINUED From First Page.)

CONTINUED From First Page.)
day was without result" said j. ".
Inc. International president OF the
tacksmNhs' Union. and spokesman
fAs the labor unions. tonight.
Neither Side would concede any
The demand that they recos-
he federation was presented 10
a iruttschnitt. but he refused TO
-. It. However. We still have hopes
,erting q ,c.7!ke."
= .er continuing In session until n
7 hour, the labor leaders adjourned
Nsupper, and then renewed their
CREATIONS.
ey announced during the recess
Ea no decision had been reached
tive to the action TO DC taken. in
II of the'- failure of to-day's nego-
na ons 8. -
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

washington, September l.-pr.sIdnn,
Iait sent the following cabIegram OF
congratulations to Queen Wuhelmina.
OK the Netherlands, upo nthe thirty
day: S'''
On this anniversary Of Your Ma
Jestys birth, l extend the assurance
and the hope that Your Naiesi,.a
country may continue TO enjoy peace
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

BaltImore. Nd, September l.-ChorIna
Selden. superintendent of telegraph OF
me baltimore and Ohio Railroad. has
neen advanced to the position Of gen
VIII continue in the Discharge Of IN.
duties OF superintendent OF telegram.
Mr.. Seldcn is widely known In iha
IsLegraph fraternity OF this nourtrx
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
COUNTERFElTERS ARRESTED
Secret Service Men Unenrth Den in
SSrncuAc.

Syracuse, n. l., September IA den
of counterfeiters was unearthed In
Syracuse this afternoon. when Hecret
placed four men under arrest, who are
alleged to have been circulating spu-
rious bills in this part OF the State.
Victor Serranti. n Baptist mission
airy. his brothers, Umberto and Fran
cisco. and Fil!tto Giorano were ar
rested with grips filled with counter
felt bills Two plates for one dollar
bills were found IN their possession.
Utica was the place where they got
rid of most OF the bad money.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

Especial to The Times Dispatch
Danvillc, Va. September 1.-The ra-
mains OF Mrs. Lou Terrell, who died in
Williamsburg, reached here to-day and
were INFERRED at Shady Grove Church.
just across the State line. this after
noon. Rev. S. +. Nix. of North Carolina.
officiating
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
Pnync-,lurtln.

special 10 The Times -D!spatc
Gordonsville. Vn, September L.
Walter Daniel Payne and Miss Flora
Martin, both OF Fluvanna county.
were married at the Methodist par
sonage here Wednesday evening at
6. 80 o'clock. Rev. j. T. Cuthriell per-
formed tho cercmOnN.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
Arthur G. ChinnuIt.

Especial 70 The Times-Dlspatch.l
Bowling Green, Va, September L.
Arthur c. Chinault died at his home
near here yesterday morning at
o'clock. In the siXty-ffth year OF his
age. He was a Confederate soldier,
and belonged to Company II, Forty
seventh Virginia Regiment Ha is
survived by nine children--W. B., C. c.,
A L. o. c., and Webb Chinault and
Mrs. Herbert Spilman of this coun-
~. and Mrs Alfred Spilman, Of King
George county: Jesse Chinault, of
Alexandria, and Clinton Chinault. of
MARYLAND
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
"Berry's for Clothes"

Every head must have a
derby, but most every man
wants q soft hat on hand.
Here they are, Dunlap, Henry
heath and Berry derby hats,
So to SIS.
Soft hats in all the curious
crowns and curves S1.5O to a6.
Now is the lightweight, soft
hat time.
Berry Soft hats agreeably re-
place the dingy straw-thev
are pleasant alike in the warm
MONDAY or crisp evening.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
DEATHS

cANTER-Died. at charlottesville
FRANCIS BROWN CANTER.
The funeral will take place from
the residence of Mr. II. Seldom Tay-
lor, 1922 West Franklin Street, al
IL o'clock TO-DAY. Saturday, Sep
TENDER I'd. Interment In Hollywood
Baltimore papers please copy.
HARRIS.-Died, at his home, near yell
low Tavern. Henrico county. Va
September 1, A. M, CHARLES l.
HARRIS. aged seventy. He leaves
widow. six sons and two daugh-
ters.
Burial from Trinity Church. Han
over county. Va.
GRANT-Died. at his residence. s7oH
Williamsburg Avenue. Friday morn
Ing at s o'clock, WILLIAM r.
Funeral from the residence To-
THIS Saturday AFTERNOON at
$3.50 o'clock. Fulton Baptist Church
Friends and relatives invited TO at
tend.
CARTER.-Died, at his residence, 1892
Venable Street. Friday. September
LIST. at o A. NJ. GEORGE c. CARTER,
aged fifty-three years. He leaves a
wife, one brother. Robert C.. Carter
and three children-Willie c.. Oscar
G., and Arthur b. Carter---to mourn
his loss.
Funeral win take place SUNDAY
able Street Baptist Church. Inter
ment in lakewood. Friends and rela-
tives cordially Invited to attend.
st. Paul. Mimi, and Baltimore Md
papers please COPY.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
Joseph s. smoot.

Especial to The Times-Dispatchl
eph spottswood Smoot. aged thirty
eight years. died this morning at 4
o'clock at his home in Bedford county.
Mr.. Smoot is survived by his wife and
four children and five brothers and a
sister.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

GRANT.-Died. at his residence, s7oB
Williamsburg Avenue. Friday morn
Ing at o'clock, WILLIAM r.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02
OBITUARY.
Mr.. HILL Canter.

Mrs. Frances Brown Canter, wife OF
DIR. Hall Canter, OF Randolph Macon
College. at Ashland. died at the Uni
versity OF Virginia Hospital Thursday
evening at o'clock, following sud
den attack and brief Illness She was
sojourn!ng at Greenwood at the time
OF the attack and though Immediately
removed TO the University Hospital and
given every attention possible. she
grew steadily worse until the end.
The remains were brought TO Rich
mond yesterday morning. and the flu
neral Will take place at ~ o'clock to-
day from the residence OF H. Seldom
Taylor. 1922 West Franklin Street. The
interment Will be made in Hollywood.
Mrs. Canter was daughter OF a late
widely known minister OF the Virginia
Conference. Rev. A. G. Brown. D. D.,
and she has one living sister. Mrs. Il.
Seldom Taylor. and two brothers. Dr..
A. C. Brown, of this city, and Richmond
l. Brown. of Oxford. y. c. The death
OF Mrs. Canter adds another sorrow to
a deeply stricken family. two others
her sister, Mrs. D. G. Whitehead, and
her brother. William Nj. Brown. sec
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. OF Randolph Macon
College-having preceded her within
the year.
j. w. Craddock.
Especial to The Times-Dspatch1
Lynchburg. Va, September III. w.
Craddock. a well-known resident of
ing at his home. after ten months III
ness. He leaves a wife and two chill
dren.
Joseph 8. Smoot.
Especial to The Times-Dispatchl
l. -,
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

Burial from Trinity Church. Han
over county, Va.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-09-02

IMMATURE ALMANAC.
September 2, 1911
High Tide:
The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1911-01-19

there in tits leisure hours and enjoy itself.
 That is the American idea of cater a strong play for the patronage of the women by urging them to make themselves at home in the rest room, the lounge, the library, and the writ ing room; to scribble notes on Sel- fridge's" stationery; to call up their friends on free phones; to sit in deep luxurious chairs and listen to orches- tral music; to stroll aimlessly through the departments. No one IS press ed to buy.
 The English merchant expects no one to leave his shop without buying something. His clerks do not at- tempt to hide their annoyance when purchases are not made. The woman who would dare to announce that she had come "just to look around would receive. scant courtesy.
 ''Selfridges" caught on with the feminine half of the London public who enjoyed the Yankee notion" Among the earlier crowds were a few professional shop filters who were soon nabbed. A few successful pros cautions drove the professionals away.
 But the temptat tions at "Selfridge's" proved too much for those who be- fore had passed for honest. They could wander where they liked with out being greeted at every step by Have you been WdlteU OH, IndOam
 The detective staff was increased. No one can guess the size of it. The dapper fioorwalker, the pretty clerk, the handsome customer in furs Ioit- ering near the lace counters-these may be detectives.
 Not a day passes that well-dressed women are not quietly escorted to "the office" and relieved of articles they have stolen, lectured and warn ed, and sent away, weeping and ashamed.
 Scarcely a week goes by that "Sel- fridge's", reluctant, does not turn a fashionable culprit over to the police and for it's own protection presses the charge. Generally the amateur shop-lifters have pleaded guilty and urged kleptomania in attenuation.
 q don't know why I did it"
 q never did such a thing in my life before"
 "A sudden impulse"
The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1911-01-19
PARK CITY LODGE, N. F. o. P.

Park City lodge, N. E. O. P., COW cred itself with glory by it's meeting last night at which it's officers were installed by the grand officers follow ed by a musical entertainment, dane ing and refreshments. The grand of ficers present were as follows: P. E. Whalen, grand warden; Jeremiah Wall. grand secretary, both of New Haven; H. D. Dawson. grand guide, Mrs John 7 Ward, grand chaplain, both of Bridgeport. The officers in stalled were as follows: Warden. H. NJ. Turpenning; vice warden, Mrs. F. L.. Nilsson; secretary, William Par sons; financial secretary, John E. Lyddy; treasurer, A. H. Nilsson; chap lain, Mrs. H. H. Turpenning; guide, Mrs. Mary E.. Donovan; guardian. w. Ii. Dolan; first trustee. Mrs. John T. Rockers; representatives to the grand lodge, Mrs. John T. Rockers, Mrs. Joseph Gilbert, Miss Amelia Sstrumbeck, William Parsons; alter nate, A. H. Nilsson. The grand war den presented Mrs. John T. Rockers, the retiring warden, with a handsome past warden's badge. Following the meeting 8 musical program of quartet selections, solos and duets was given under the direction of Joseph E. Clabby and refreshments were served, dancing concluding the evenings en- tertainment The committee consist ed of Mrs. Joseph Gilbert, Miss Car rie Kirk, Mrs. Mary E. Donovan. Joseph E.. Clabby Mrs. E Nilsson, MT. and Mrs. J. T. Rockers, Mir. and Mrs. H. M. Turpenning and Miss Amelia Strumbeck
The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1911-01-19
SHOP-LIFTING
 IN LONDON An American Department Store Which Tempts Heretofore Honest
 Women

London, Jan. 12.-"I don't know why l did it'' walled society wom- an in a London police court "I know why' the magistrate answered. You did it because you wanted something for nothing.'
 The woman had pleaded guilty to shop-lifting at ''Selfridge's'' the only American department store in Lon don. The case was one of three tried on the same day-al "Selfridge's ca ses." In each case the prisoner was a woman of means, education, and social position, who never had got in- to trouble with the law before and who felt the disgrace keenly.
 The "Selfridge experiment" as it has been called, has had one result which no one foresaw; it has offered to the women of the upper classes an irresistible temptation to steal Pro- fessional shoplifters give "Sel- fridge's' a wide berth.
 The big establishm ment of which Harry Gordon Selfridge, formerly of Marshall Fields. of Chicago, is prop rietor. differs from English shops" in many respects, but chiefly in that the buying public is invited to go
The Bridgeport evening farmer., 1911-01-19
CHIEF WANTS POOL
 ROOMS REGULATED
May Get New State Law for It This Year-State's At torney Hugh M. Alcorn Said to Be Interested.

Hartford, Jan. 19.-Chief of Police William F. Gum is actively interest ed in getting the present General As sem bly, to pass bill regulating pool rooms, so that the police in the var ious cities of the state may have some kind of control over them and per sons who frequent them. He ex- poets to get the support of the head of every police department in the state, and it is understood that States Attorney Hugh M. Alcorn is drafting the bill
 Under the existing law. practically anybody can get permit from the mayor of a city to operate pool room, and no fee is attached to the issuance of the permit. Chief Gums idea is to have the licensing power vested in the chief of police, and to have fee of $50 provided. He would also have the power to revoke the license for cause at any time, and the right to deny a license to any one considered an unsuitable person for :siat kind of business.
 I don't know of anything that ruins more young men to-day than poolrooms,'' said Chief Gum. ''The present law allows youths to frequent these places as soon as they become Is years old They can stay until l o'clock in the morning, and we now nave no cOntrOl over these places. Thieves sometimes congregate in them, and young men gambling and associating with these characters be- come thieves themselves. If we had the power to make a man keep such people from lettering about his place, it would be mighty good thing.''
 bill was introduced at the session of 1907 to make pool and billiard rooms close at midnight. At that time there was no restriction on the time during which they could keep open. When the bill was finallyl passed it made the closing hour 1 o'clock instead of midnight. A num- Der of officers representing different police departments of the state ap- peared at hearing in the interest of the measure.
 A crowd of pool sharps, or lemon squeezers, as they are known to the police and the "profesh.' work back and forth between New York and Boston, fleecing people on fake bets as they go along. Under the pres ent system the police are almost pow erless to stop them. as the loser sell dom complains to the police, and un- less he does. no evidence can be gath cred against the lemons"