The Richmond Virginian. (Richmond, Va.) 1910-1920, 1911-12-29
PUZZLES THEM To
DEFINE AMATEUR
MEMBERS OF ATHLETIC RESEARCH
SOCIETY TAKE UP QUESTION
AT MEETING.
LOOK FOR BROAD BASIS
sECRETARY FISHER. OF ATHLETIC
LEAGUE. GIVES REASON FOR
BREAK WITH a. A. U.
LAST SUMMER.
LOOK FOR BROAD BASIS

NEW YORK. Dec. 2s.--An attempt
to define the meaning Of pure anna
teurism az 1t Is known in sports was
made by the Athletic Research So
ciety at It's annual meeting in the
Hotel Aston. The society will try to
determine this long debated questi On
and give an ott1cial decision on the
type OF athlete who may be consid-
cred an amateur, -
Representative of leading anna
feur athletic organizations VINO were
delegated TO meet as "a federated
committee under the auspices Of the
society to considsr the athletic SIT
uation in general and as perpetual
bouy met for the first time and Or
ganized.
These representatives were DR..
Paul G. Philips. director Of physi-
cal education at Amherst College;
William Orr. Deputy Commissioner
OF Education. Boston. for the puoiic
schools: T. b. lie Groot, director
playground system, Chicago; Lee
hammer. OF the Sage Foundation.
New York city. for Boy scouts of
America: George J. FTsner, interna-
tional secretary of physical work for
the Young Mems Christian Assoc.a-
ton; Charles W. Bralnpridge. Ger
mantown. Pa, National r federation
OF Settlements: Dr. John Brown, Jr.,
secretary physical work, New York
city Young Mems Christian Associa-
ton and rural interests, W. c. Pearce,
international sunday school commit
tee. Chicago, and w. A. Slicher. Fhi-
adeiphia, Turner's and North Ameri-
can Gymnastie Union.
Question Of Amateur.
Or. Philips and his associates
studied the question IF amateurism
according to the case method-that
Is, from actual disputes or protests
filed before some recognized author
ity-but Of the ten cases considered
only two OF them differed. and the
committee believed this was too
narrow consideration OF the subject
from which to arrive properly at
satisfa Glory determination of the
problem. The work will be continued
with the assistance Of a subconmit-
tee from the federated committee on
athletics.
1T Is certain that the solution of
the question OF amateurism will not
be decided upon the simple question
OF the receipt Or non-recetpt OF
money said DR.. Phillips. The COM
mittee will decide on the broader
basis OF the influences involved in the
question Of the amateur or the pro-
feseional. so that the determination
will 60 further than any Of the COM
monty accepted rulings on the ques-
ton now in force or that have been
applied"
George l. Fisher, secretary Of the
Athletic League OF North America.
which Is composed largely OF Young
Mems Christian Associations told or
the reasons for breaking with the
Amateur Athletic Union last July He
said:
Forbidden TO Play.
II had to think in the terms OF
M. 81 Warren street. and we We're
forbidden to play any games with
Canadian orga nizations because the
American Amateur Athletic Union
had q fight on with the Canadian
Amateur Athletic Union Now We
are having games with the sanction
Of the Canadian union and with all
others from which we were excluded
when under the jurisdiction OF the
Amateur Athletic Union.'
Officers were elected as follows:
President. Clark w. Hetherington.
FEELS Endowment. Chicago: vice
president. William Orr, Deputy Com
missioner OF Education, Boston; sec
rotary and treasurer. Joseph L. Ray
croft. professor OF physical educa-
ton at Princeton.