The Pensacola journal. (Pensacola, Fla.) 1898-1985, 1911-07-01
After Five Hours Cross Ex-
animation, Witness is Told
His Ordeal is Over.
REPEATEDLY REITERATEs HIS
STATEMENT THAT ALDRICH
TOLD HIM PRESIDENT TAFT
WOULD DO ANYTHING POSI-
BILE TO BRING ABOUT ELEc-
TON OF COMMITTEE
WILL NOW TAKE A RECESS.
BY Associated Press.


Washington, June 3O-For five hours
today Edward Hines, the Chicago lum-
oerman, underwent cross-examining
before the senate Lorimer committee
as to his part in the election of
Lorimer. When the committee ad-
Journed until tomorrow the witness
was told his ordeal was ended The
committee probably will take a recess
tomorrow for several days.
To the list of those whose testimony
Hines contradicted yesterday he to-
day added the name of Herman II.
Hettler head of a big competing lum-
Der company bearing his name, who
testified at Springfield.
Many times the witness was asked
If he might have been mistaken about
Senator Aldrich having told him that
Taft would do anything possible to
assist in Lorimers election. He re-
piled that 1t was impossible for him
to have been mistaken, because he put
the substance of what Aidrich had
said in a telegram which he said he
had. He said he had never seen a de-
NAL of his testimony from the White
House after his testimony at SPRING
field. Hotels bills at Washington last
February were introduced by Hines to
show he was not in Chicago during
that month, which was about the time
he was alleged, in the testimony of
Funk, to have called on Funk to re-
fresh Funk's memory on the Union
League club conversation.
HAD THE DOCUMENTS.
With his pockets bulging with docu-
ments, Hines resumed the witness
stand before the senate committee in
vestigating. the election of Senator
Loriner. s4--
Mr.. Illness counsel sought to show
by these papers that Mr.. Hines was
not in Chicago last February about the
time Clarence s. Funk, general man
~ager of the International Harvester
Company, claims Mr.. Hines called up
on him to refresh his memory in re-
gard to the famous Union League
conversation, in which Mr.. Funk tes-
titled Mr.. Hines asked him to con-
tribute $4,000 to reimburse a 100000
Lorimer election fund.
Bills for service rendered him at
Washington hotel for the month pre-
ceding March were presented.
Wasn't it possible, as far as this
bill is concerned, for you to have been
absent from the city and for your wife
to have remained alone at the hotel?'
asked Senator Jones.
Yes, sir; l went to Philadelphia, but
never to Chicago"
Cross examined by Attorney Marble,
for the committee, Mr.. Hines said that
at the exact moment Mr.. Lorimer was
elecLSQ ne (ftlneSD was at the Union
League club at Chicago, telephoning
! the Associated Press, requesting in
formation as to the result of the bal
loting in Springfield. The witness
could not definitely fix the hour, saying
it was between 1870 and p. m. He
related how he was told that the vot
, ing was on at Springfield; that Mr..
Lorimer had 103 votes and finally, af-
ter he held the wire a moment, came
the news that Senator Lorimer was
elected.
Attorney Marble asked If the witness
did not feel very happy over the re-
suit. Mr.. Hines said he was not so
certain about that
Didn't you consider the election was
the result of your efforts?"
mo. / considered that I was a
mere message bearer and 1 never did
know what the effect of that message
was.
DENIED HETTER's TESTIMONY.
Mr.. Hines said that as he stepped
out of the booth after the talk with
the Associated Press, he met Her
man II. Hetter, of Chicago, a COM
peting lumberman. The witness de-
MED the testimony by Mr.. Hetter at
the Helm hearing at Springfield. that
he told Mr.. Hetter he had just been
talking to the new senator, Mr.. Lori
mer, and that Il elected him-I did it
myself personally" Mr.. Hines testified
that he merely told Mr.. Hetter he had
been talking to the Associated Press
and understood Mr.. Lorimer had been
elected senator.
Mr. Hines said he and Mr.. HetteT
had never been friends.
Mr. Hines said he did not know
how much money the lumber interests
raised for the expenses of commit
tee in Washington during the tariff
legislation of 1909, which was about
the time Mr.. Lorimer was elected.
Mr.. Hines said he was sure that
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