Santa Fe new Mexican. [volume] (Santa Fe, N.M.) 1898-1951, 1911-12-02
Both Fredericks and Darrow
Give Out Interviews For
Publication.
(By Special Leased Wire to rev Mex!can) }


pleas that in the interest of peace
and society. james B. Mcnamara be
allowed to plead guilty and that the
case against his brother John J., be
dropped These pleas, he said, he
steadfastly rejected.
Not Running Society.
II told them l was not running So
ciety," he said. Some of the men
after talking it over, expressed their
willingness to let me handle the mat
ter in my own way"
Fredericks declared that since July
he had an offer from the defense
to let James B. Mcnamara plead
guilty to save Jonn J. Mcnamara.
"A month ago, Darrow and l were
talking in court half seriously about
it The court stopped proceedings so
we quit he said.
THAT afternoon, Darrow came to
see me and made virtually the same
offer and l refused to accept it,"
Lincoln Steffens in Case.
me know" Darrow said as he left. Il
never WILL" I replied. "Then Darrow
and Lincoln Steffens got together and
Steffens went down town to get men
to come to me to urge me to agree to
Darrow's proposal. The matter was
put to me but l refused to consider it
and they did not urge me. Two days
later some of them gave me type
written statement and it was practic-
ally the same thing"
Saved Life Of His Brother.
It was at this juncture, District At.
torney Fredericks says, he told them
he was not running society,"" 81
said I knew I had the goods he con-
tinued, "and l didn't propose to lie
down. I asked two or three others
also of the same crowd, If they
thought I'd made a mistake and
they told me they thought
the case was perfectly safe
in my hands. Meanwhile, T had talks
with Darrow and Davis and stood pat
that both men must plead guilty. The
matter of punishment did not interest
me, but I knew, and counsel for the
defense knew, that if J. J. Mcnamara
wanted to save the life of his broth
er, he could help by coming through.
Fredericks Had the Goods.
"On Wednesday night the citizens
had another meeting. I knew all
along that the proposals were Dar-
rows and knew that I had the goods.
Thursday one of them called me up
and said some of them might come
tn see me. IF you have any influence
with them tell them to run along and
attend to their own business" said
Tredericks and they didn't come.
Darrow and Davis came again and said
they could not get the joint confes-
sion. told them that in that case I'd
60 ahead with the trial and that I'd
rather proceed with It anyhow"
Finally they said they would take
my terms and both men pleaded guilty
That is the history OF the negotfa.
tfons."
The Franklin Case.
AS to Bert H. Franklin, the defens.
es' investigator arrested on a charge
of bribery, Frederfcks said that the
termination Of this case might make 9
readjustment in counsel and said he
thought perhaps former Governor
Henry T. Gage as counsel for the de
fense might drop out and be replaced
by Attorney Davis.
Murderer Will Make Complete state
|. IF they ask a continuance on Mon
day, they shall have It," he said. H.
said he had not determined whethe
to recommend clemency for the McNa
maras, but declared that James q
Mcnamara would make a complet
statement of the affair to the world
This statement, he said, might be Civ
en- out the day Of sentence, which l
next Tuesday.
| Big 1ribes for Witnesses.
| Asked If 1t were true that tn
state had obtained from prosecutiv
witnesses money supposed to hav
been given them In such quantitie
that the total practically equalled tn
amount OF the rewards offered by tn
city state and county, in all abou
$4,000, Mr.. Fredericks said it wa
"more or less true"
Darrow Loops Ha9oard.
i Los Angeles, Calif., Dec. g.
Fatigued and worn, his face deepl
lined and pale, Clarence 8. Darroy
veteran Of many legal battles in whic
labor has been involved arose toda
a disheartened man. He read the con
ments Of labor leaders throughout th
country on the pleas Of guilty entere
yesterday By both James B. and job
{ ]. McNamara, secretary.treasurer