New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1911-07-22
LOR|MER INVESTIGATION
NOW TOUCHES ALBANY
Secretary of States Office Said
to Have Asked $1,000 for
Campaign Contribution List.
C. F. WIEHE MAKES CHARGE
Senator Penrose Tells of Meeting
Hines and How He Finally
Came to Support
Lorimer.
Iron The Tribune Rnrn.ll

iigcm ne Tribune Bureau
Washington. July H--Oue thousand dol
lars is the price fixed at the office of IN,
Secretary Of State Of New York for copy
Of r. 1S-paee list of campaign contribu
tions. a public document. according TO tbt
testimony Of G. Il. Wiehe before the LORI
iner investigating committee to-day Wiehe
who took the stand to-day 10 deny the story
that he had contributed $1,000 TO the Lori
iner campaign fund did not believe the
500 was for the copying of the docume.-'
alone but in any event he considered th'
price too hich. and after consultation wifi
Edward Hines rejected the offer
The fact was brought to light in the
cross-eXsmination Of Wiohe 10 ascertain
why he had summoned r. J. Shields, oil
Wisconsin. who collected afIidavits FOL
Hines. 10 Chicago Wiehe. whose memory
on this point was not clear yesterday, re-
called to-day that one of the reasons was
TO obtain a copy of the list Of contributions
10 tho last Presidential campaign filed with
the Secretary Of state az Albany for the
purpose of sscertaining whether Cyrus Nc
Cormick had Contributed to the Republican
fund.
Il had wired the Secretary Of state and
being retained for only fifteen months
ssid MIR. Wiehe. Since coming here l have
received a wire from Albany saying that
the list would bo furnished for $1,000"
Wiehe laid before the committee what he
said was a telegram he received in regard
10 the matter. dated July y. 1911. and read
ing: win deliver TO you original sheldon
statement filed in this Office November ~
1905. for $1,000" This was signed James j.
Neville Secretary of States office
DO you mean TO say there are l2S pages
OF contributions to the TAFT campaign
fund.-" asked Senator Kern, who was can
didste for Vice President on the ticket OPP
posed 10 Mr.. Taft
YES. sir" replied thu witness.
Il see how it happened, them said the
defeated candidate
Wiehe was asked why he had called II
Shields about the Albany matter. lie re-
piled that Shields said he knew some one
al Albany that might help him get the list
Further light was thrown on the EFFORTS
made by Hines 10 secure witnesses to-day
Wiehe admitted that he had advised W. H.
cook and William O'Brien. at Illness re-
quest. 10 keep out OF Chicago While the
grand Jury was in session. although told
mat subponas had been issued.
Senator Penrose's Testimony.
Senator Penrose. of Pennsylvania
brought Joy to the Lorimer-Hines follow
.rs when he told Of the part he took in the
election OF Senator Lorimer. They SAID
that he substantiated the testimony given
Nv Edward Hines as TO Mr.. Penrose's de-
sire to have Hines exert his influence for
Loriner's election.
Senator Penrose told Of meeting Hines in
connection with the lumber schedule IN
the Payne-Aldrich tariff bill
II became impressed early that he was
a bright. active man. generally familiar
with conditions throughout the country
the Senator explained
People were pouring in here from Hi
nois." he said. "on the tariff matters, and
coming TO US on the Finance Committee.
] was praying daily for some Senator TO
turn them over to. Of course, Senator
Culiom was here. but he was at work
with the Fi.ance Committee and is an Old
man. Hines regarded Lorirner as his last
resort. as ! got IT.
He testified regarding many discussions
with Hines about tie election OF Senator
from Illinois.
II felt" said he. "as ] think Senator
Aldrich did, that in the interest OF good
government the Senatorial seat should be
filled"
lie said Hines at first suggested that
Frank o. Lowden was available and later
II. s. Boutell. and still later mentioned
I.orimer.
Il probably urged Mr.. Hines as citi-
ven 10 use his best efforts to bring about
some result" said Mr.. Penrose.
Were YOU for Lorimer?"
After Mr.. Hines told me Lorimer seemed
20 be the only available man was for him,
just as [ was for HOPKINS at the start.
Senator Penrose said that he probably
took Hines to Senator Aldrich TO Introduce
him.
on cross-examination ne said he had never
dreamed Of Loriner for the Senate until
Hines suggested that Dorimer WAS the man
on whom a union might he effected. linen
he became a Dorimer man.