Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-06-28
Hines May Not Hear Testi-
mony in Lorimer Case.
ACTION BY THE COMMITTEE
Rush Culver Contradicts Statements
in Springfield Inquiry.
AFFIDAVIT PUT IN RECORD
Resumption of the Investigation Of
the Senatorial Election in Illinois.
Denials by Jones and o'Brien.

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Edward Hines, the Chicago lumber
millionaire who. II has been testified.
had said he put Lorimer over at
Springfield was today excluded from
the room where the Senate committee
| is holding its investigation into the
election of Senator Lorimer. This ac-
tion was taken by the committee at an
| executive session.
| The committee considered It inad-
visable that MIR. Hines should he per-
mitted to listen to the testimony. Since
Clarence s. Funk of Chicago took the
stand Mr.. Hines had been allowed to
be present in the committee room and
hear the witnesses whose evidence
largely had centered about his alleged
remarks about the Lorimer election ex-
pense.
Culver Contradicts Testimony.
Rush Culver, a lumberman and lawyer
of LAnse. Mich. was the first witness
| today. When the Lorimer investiga-
| tion was on before the Helm committee
of the Illinois legislature Druggist Jones
! of Marquette, Mich, reported to
haze stated that Culver was present on
an occasion in 1903 when Edward
Hines, millionaire lumberman. declared
he had Just succeeded In making
United States senator that cost hum
dred thousand dollars" Jones testi-
! fed yesterday the conversation was in
1907. and was simply that Lorimer's
election, presumably to the House.
probably cost a barrel of money"
Relations With Hines.
Mr. Culver said he had been mayor OF
Marquette, Mich. He told OF business re-
lations with Edward Hines.
Contradicting some of the testimony 1t
the Springfield investigation, Mr.. Culver
said he had not seen Mr. Hines since Mr..
Lorimer's election to the Senate.
II have no recollection of discussing
Senator Lormer with Mr.. Hines" said
| Mr.. Culver. "On one or two occasions
he told me he was friendly to Mr.. Lori
mer and il seems to me once in Chicago
| we saw some wagons OF the Edward
Hines Lumber Company decorated with
| Vote for Lorimer.
1T seems to me Mr.. Hines has said to
me that he had been In the habit OF help
| ing out Senator Lorimer. He certainly
referred to congressional elections.
My memory Is that he said he would
decorate wagons for Lorimer and would
help him to raise campaign funds"
| The witness could not remember con-
versation in Shelly B. Jones drug store In
1907 nor at any other time when Jones Is
said to have declared that Hines referred
to the Lorimer election as costing "a bar
| rel of money.
Culver Complains.
Mr.. Culver complained that though he
had given to two publications a copy OF
an affidavit he had made last April. in
cooperating the substance of his testi-
mony today. he had been unable to get
1t printed.
| I'll get it printed for you." volunteered
Attorney Healy. I'm put II in the rec
Senator Kenyon sought little political
pleasantly with Mr.. Culver.
| You say you are a democrat?"
/ Yes"
The witness added that he favored Q
| tariff on lumber.
What kind of democrat are you. a
protection democrat?"
mo. Just a plain democrat. and j hope
| you are, too"
Hugh Mclean Heard.
Hugh Mclean, lumber man OF North
/ Tonawanda, n. Y. was the next witness
Mr.. Mclean testified that the only thing
Mr.. Hines had ever mentioned to him
about the Lorimer election was that the
| newspapers printed only one side OF the
matter. The witness said that a Mr..
| Coan who said he represented the Helm
committee investigating Senator Lori
mers election on behalf of the Illinois
legislature, had asked him what he knew
about the raising OF q Lorimer election
| fund.
II told him that I did not know any
I thing" declared Mr.. Mclean.
| Didn't you tell Mr.. Coan." asked At
torney Healy Of counsel for the commit
tee. that he was not going to get any
| thing from you or your friend, Mr.. Hines,
and what you knew about raising money
| for Lorimer was only hearsay anyway?
NO. sir, absolutely" exclaimed the
witness.
Mcleod Also Saw Coan.
John Mcleod Of Buffalo. N. T.. Q tun-
| herman, testified that ali Mr.. Hines said
| to him about Senator Lorfmer was on Q
| trip to Washington just before the SEN
atorial election. He introduced me TO
| Mr. Lorimer, then a congressman, and
said that he might be the next senator
from Illinois," declared the witness.
Ibid you ever hear Of the use Of mon
ey in the Lorimer election7" asked Mr..
Healy.
yes" responded Mr.. Mcleod.
"where?"
"In the newspapers-and once q fell
low told me that said I knew about it,
"Why. a man who said he was Coan
and represented the Helm committee
| came up to me and said that two men
had sworn that had said / knew about
the use Of money in the election"
Ibid Coan convince your" inquired Sem
ator Kenyon.
mo, sir. he did not"
Mr.. Mclean was questioned closely