Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-10-20
and Horstmann from Mai Sylvester Mr..

and Horstmann from Maj Sylvester. Mr.
Richards replied he was not in the frame
of mind to talk to the chief of police al
that time but, he said he knew tina,
Horstmann had gone to Maj. sylvester
for the purpose of making that sort OIL
trouble. Mr.. Richards also SAID ina,
| Horstmann had turned in a report or
! Harper to the police department All Oh
! his testimony was devoted to showing
that Horstmann had split up any sem
blance of good feeling between the EXCISE
board and the police department.
"An intolera,ble condition., volunteered
Mr. Hogan, whereupon Assistant Corpor-
alton Counsel White objected.
| Mr.. Richards continued:
| "I told Horstmann in those written in
structons to submit facts and not to
make any recommendations Later.
Keane and Harper appeared to get the
license and 1 heard then that the police
| intended to make supplemental report
1 said no report was needed. and none
had been asked for. and that the appl-
| cation should be granted Mr.. Nick enzie
| seemed to be the only one of the Board
who knew that supplemental police re-
port was coming. So / told him that II
! the transfer he could mark it rejected
and the license could be granted as a
majority vote
Demands a Change.
However. Mr. Mckenzie voted with the
rest of the board I heard then that
Horstmann was trying to make more
trouble. and. as that was about all could
stand. I determined there would he a
parting of the ways, so I asked to have
Horstmann removed to sN-ne other job
One of the Commissioners asked wheth-
err Mr. Richards had made inspections of
1 10 Pho hn
was granted. He said he had. and also
that he had taken particular pains tn
find out about Michael LAWYER the man
who worked under Harper's name In Nir-
ginia.
Harper told me that Lawler was there.
but was not working behind the bar. He
said he was getting to be an old man
and couldn't mix drink"
No More of Perreard Case.
When Mr.. Richards was through the
attorneys decided to present more Of the
Perreard case. but Commissioner Rudolph
asked them please to desist, stating that
the Commissioners had heard enough of
the Perreard matter to last them the rest
of their lives. Roger Williams. clerk to
the excise board. started to testify. but
Commissioner Johnston said he for one
would vote to leave Williams out of the
case entirely. The other Commissioners
concurred. Mr.. Williams. it had been
stated borrowed $+OO from Peter Drury
when he found himself in tight corner.
Mr.. White. conducting the investigation,
had no objections to dropping that phase
of the inquiry. and Mr.. Williams will
therefore not be made a target for the
queries of attorneys.
Commissioner Johnston called Mr.. Rich
ards back and asked about the har-
moniouS relations between the police and
the excise board. He brought into evil
depro Cipnod COrnOraf io0
Counsel Thomas, Maj. Sylvester and AS
SCISSOR Richards. after the disclosures by
The Star in March. 1910. concerning the
violations of the liquor law. the paper be-
ing a sort Of treaty of peace between the
excise board and the police.
Then he asked Mr.. Richards IL Mr..
Horstmann and his activities contributed
to the peaceful relations. Mr. Richards
was very positive in saying No"
Capt. Schneider's Statement.
Capt Schneider was next called. He
Kalbfus that he (SchneideD had changed
his report because some one higher up
was forcing him. He said:
Il positively don't recall any such
conversation. Kalbfus stopped me on
the street once about that time and
asked me some questions about Harper.
/ said the matter was in the hands of
the excise board and / didn't care to
talk about it. He asked me about
Harper and attempted to draw me out
I said: I won't be drawn into any
controversy about him. Good day:
This was Capt. Schneider's denial of
Mr.. Kalbfus' statement.
Did you say that some one was try
ing to make case against Harper or
that force was being used?' asked Mr..
White.
No; 1 did not. There was no occa-
sion for making case.
AT the time you had this converse
ton with Mr.. Kalbfus had you made
your supplemental report?"
II cannot recall at this time
Did you know about his record in
Alexandria county,"
Il first heard Of that In Maj. Sylvesters
office. 1t was at a regular Wednesday
morning meeting, when all the captains
report there. Mr.. Horstmann was there.
Maj. Sylvester asked me If 1 knew of
Harper's record in Rosslyn. and said he
had heard that Harper had been selling
liquor unlawfully and asked me to make
further investigation I started out to
on the excise board to let them know
was going to look up the matter
further. l told Mr.. Mckenzie, member
of the board, that I was about to make
a further investigation.
Gets the Virginia Record.
Then I went to Virginia, got the rec
ord. and when l got back to George
town I saw Harper ard told him what l
had found out. He told me how another
man had got him into the trouble and
pointed out Mike LAWYER. standing be-
hind the bar. Then told Harper 1 hal
an adverse report to make on him. He
begged me not to. but l said had duty
to perform and could not escape it
Later Mr.. White asked Capt. Schneider
whether Horstmann had ever used any
coercion. whether he had forced him
to make or change any report, and
asked him in general about the state
ment that Mr.. Kalbfus made, namely,
that the person of Horstmann repre-
scented the shadow of the White House
Capt. Schneider said ii was not true
Capt. John Daley Of No. precinct
went on the stand for a few minutes,
and said he had met Horstmann at the
meeting of captains. Commissioner
Johnston asked him if he had heard of
Horstmann as man of large influence
with the White House, or had heard
he was to be made chief of police as
Mr.. Kalbfus had declared Capt Daley
| said he had heard nothing Of the sort
Commissioner Johnston also brought
| out that the meeting at which Horst
mann appears to have been was nothing
| more nor less than a routine affair, and
| that Maj. Sylvester had a right to talk
| to his captains about completing the
| records in excise cases.