The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1911-04-22
And Calls on Carnegie to
Bear Witness to His
Honesty.
HIS MEETING WITH CAYN0R
He and Relchmann Weaken When
Told to Reply to the
40 Questions.

III YOU want to know anything more
about me. gentlemen said William J.
Cummins TO the Grand Jury yesterday
! afternoon Just after he had finished telling
about his friendship with Chamberlain
Hyde. "just ask my friend Andrew Car
negie. He'll tell you that there isn't a
crooked hair on W. j. Cummins's head
And a little while before the Tennesseean
was called Joseph B. ReichmAnn. who
was president Of the Carnegie Trust Com
pany while Cummins was borrowing
millions from banks that we're getting
millions in city deposits. told the Grand
Jury how on the night Of August -. 1910.
he and Cummins took Robin Of the North
ern Bank to Hyde's Wall street Office and
introduced that financier TO Hyde; how
Hyde slapped Robin on the back and said
he hoped he would he good TO the boys
for the boys were his friends and how
Robin asked for city deposits.
Cummins and Reichmann by advice Of
their counsel. Stephen c. Baldwin. re-
sisted the District Attorney at every step
until it became necessary for Judge Whit
man to take them before Supreme Court
Justice Vernon NJ. Davis. The Justice
ordered them to reply or take the conse-
quences. They replied. Sometimes their
memory needed refreshing; sometimes
they couldn't remember at alias whom
Cummins. swearing that he had met
Mayor Gaynor at a banquet. was utterly
unable to recall the date Of the dinner or
the name Of the man who performed tho
introduction-but answers Of some sort
we're made by each to the forty questions.
FIRST REFUSAL TO AEswWR
II was p. n. when Lawyer Baldwin
took his clients TO the District Attorneys
Office in obedience TO the subpPnas that
commanded them to appear a. witnesses
before the Grand Jury in a criminal action
prosecuted by the People Of the State Of
New York against Charles H. Hyde. In
few minutes the Grand Jury proceed
ings were under way, with Judge Whit
man and Assistant District Attorney John
Kirkland Clark in charge.
Rechmann. who has been a sick man
and who walks with difficulty from partial
paralysis. was called into the jury room
first. Without delay Judge Whitman let
60 with the first OF the forty questions.
Reichmann declined to answer. Asked
why he said that his counsel had told
him to stand on his constitutional rights
and not to testify against himself
MIR. Reichmann," said the District
Attorney. Il want you to understand that
this proceeding ia not against you but
u.la Notk
may say here will be used against you"
JUSTICE DAVIS ASKED TO DECIrE.
1t made no difference. Reichmann held
his tongue. Since the Grand Jury pro-
ceedings were under the authority Of
Justice Davis the witness was taken inn
mediately before the Justice. who was
at that moment sitting in the trial OF ".
J. Fields. The twenty-three jurymen.
Assistant District Attorney Clark and the
Grand Jury stenographer filed in with
Judge Whitman and Reichmann.
The District Attorney stepped on jus
tice Davi is dais and whispered for a few
minutes. the Justice paying close atten-
ton. As Judge Whitman stepped down
Justice Davis said,
Il understand that the Grand Jury has
at 4P. NJ when there will be no persons
present save the Grand Jury and ths
witnesses
Lawyer Baldwin got the Justice's ear
for a moment or two as Reichmann was
being marched out OF the court room.
He wanted permission TO appear at
o'clock The Justice thought a moment
and granted the request IT was agreed
that the hearing was 10 he an open one.
Cummins was called into the jury room
then and the District Attorney put the
forty questions to him. He also declined
to answer. Since it was necessary to
wait upon Justice Davis's decision the
two men were detained in the District
Attorneys private Office until T. NJ.
but the Grand Jury. not wishing TO sit
idly by. went to work with Sterling
Birmingham. who used to be head Of
the bond department Of the Windsor
Trust Company and with Joseph G. Robin.
Mr. Birmingham, who was tried and
acquitted on "A charge Of accepting a
omise OF a tip from r. =. Kaufman in
connection with the Clark and Katz loans.
testified that in his time at the Windsor
Trust Company the company had been
twice tipped Off to the coming Of bank
examiners. The Bank Department has
stated that no examiner ever knows
where he is going until . o'clock Of the
morning OF the day that an examination 10
to he made.
Robin was called in order that he might
have IA chance TO supplement what testi-
mony he had given as to the conference
, hat took place on the night of August %,
1910, in Chamberlain Hyde's Office at
40 Wall street between Cummins. Reich
mann. Robin and Hyde. Robin. it will
be remembered. swore that Hyde got
him TO loan Si3oOOO to the Cummins
crowd on penalty Of losing city deposits
from the Northern Bank. Robin again
fixed the hour Of the conference at sP. NJ.
and reasserted other essentials.
At 4 p. NJ, Justice Davis was ready
for the District Attorney and the recall
citrants. Judge Whitman said:
Certain questions have been asked the