Arizona republican., 1911-06-24
THE CHURCH
 IN BUSINESS ThriftinesS a Part Of The.
 Mormon Religion HAVEMEYER WAS SOUGHT
Not to Encourage the Sugar Trust, But to Aid in De veloping the Beet Sugar Industry in the States of Utah and Idaho.

i Washington, b. C., June 23.-That the Mormon church in enlisting the aid of Henry O. Havemeyer to extend its beet sugar industries was seeking solely the welfare of it's people was declared today by Thomas R. Cutler. vice president of
 the Utah Idaho Sugar Refining com pany, before the house sugar trust in-
 vestigating committee. MT Cutler dis cussed freely the business policy of the church and was frank in revealing the
 details of his dealings with MT. Have
 meyer.
 | The sugar committe also examined ! Chester S Mowrey. president of the Great Western Sugar Refining com pany of Denver. a combination embrac- ing sixteen Colorado beet sugar facotr-
 ies in which the American Sugar Re- fining company has acquired half in- Iterest. From John D. Spreckels of Cal ifornia, who will arrive tomorrow, the committee expects to show that the American corporation has influential interests in the factories of that state. Before MT. Cutler conclued his testi- mOny, he was examined at length as to the business purposes of the Mor- mon church.
 Why does the Mormon church go into the sugar business and other bus mess enterprises?" asked Representa- tive Minds of Maine
 Anything that affects the material as well os the spiritual welfare of it's people. the Mormon church encourages" said MT. Cutler. Tt provides occupa- tion for the people in many other lines Ot business as well as in the beet sugar industry"
 Then the Mormon church" inquired Representative Madison of Kansas, 'is not only a spiritual organization. but also a business organization
 "To a great extent that is true" re- piled Cutler.
 Does the Mormon church now own stock in the Union Pacific railroad?" Madison asked
 "I-dOubt it; I wish it did"
 Well. the president of the church owns Union Pacific stock at least" Madison continued. and not only as a matter of encouraging thrift, but as a cold blOoded business proposition, it owns interests in irrigation companies, agricultural enterprises, woolen and su- gar factories, and other industries, does it not?"
 TO a certain extent. It would have to carry on business enterprises that way or they would fail"
 Mir. Cutler explained that the busi- ness enterprises of the church are man. aged by the presiding bishop. who acts as business manager Questioned regarding the tariff, MT. Cutler said: "A howl for free trade in sugar is be- l ing made by the cane refineries and 1 that it would ruin the beet sugar busi- l ness" In discussing sugar prices in the | west, Cutler said the price of sugar for | Utah, Wyoming and the inter mountain | territory was fixed by the Pacific coast | price list. determined daily at San Francisco. based upon the Hamburg price and local conditions.
 Do you follow those prices?" asked | Chairman Hardwick.
 Yes. we have to follow them"
 From whom do you get the price lists?"
 From the Western Sugar Refining | company and the California and Ha- waiian Sugar company We make our price, plus the freight rate from San Francisco. for the local market. and | less 20 cents. the differential between cane and beet sugar"
 Then in Idaho. Utah and that ter ritory you charge the consumer freight, although the sugar doesn't travel that distance?" asked Hard wick
 "Yes. that's the way all prices of commodities must be fixed"
 At the time the deal was made Ii Havemeyer purchased one half of the original Utah Sugar com pany, before the consolidation and formation of the Utah-Idaho Sugar Refining company, Cutler said he act ed as the agent of his own people and did not consider himself an agent of Havemeyer. After that Havemeyer, he said. left the management entirely |. to the wisdom of the western man
 Did you ever consult Havemeyer Madison
 Never"
 Did you ever ask him about the territory in which you were to sell sugar.
 No"
 Did you ever ask him about when to sell?"
 "Yes." was the reply 'T frequently ! asked Havemeyer for an opinion about foreign crops and when he thought it good time for us to un-