The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1911-03-28
To Conceal What Robin Says
Was a Loan Hyde Forced
From Him.
DIRECTOR LEWIS ADMITS IT
Whitman Wants Frank Black to
Help Prosecute - Hyde
Gets Untermyer.

Carnegie Trust Company cases Dist riot
Attorney Whitman will ask Gov. Black TO
assist him in the investigation now pro-
ceeding and TO appear for the State in
forthcoming trials. The District Attor-
ney's Office Is so loaded up with business
that Judge Whitman feels that the public
interest demands that a man of Gov.
Blacks calibre be put in charge of the
Carnegie inquiry.
Il came out also yesterday that Samuel
Cntermyer is now representing City
Chamberlain Hyde. whose name has been
brought before the Grand Jury in con-
nection with city deposits to banks that
loaned money to William J. Cummins.
Mr. Untermyer called on District Attor-
ney Whitman yesterday afternoon and the
impression became strong around the
Criminal Courts Building that Mr. Inter
mver was willing TO have Mr.. Hyde appear
before the Grand Jury
Judge Whitman said he couldn't talk
about what had passed between him and
Mr Untermyer. Mr. Untermyer left for
Toledo soon after seeing the District
Attorney. So far as Mr. Hyde's probable
appearance is concerned it may be said
that the District Attorney will rot facili.
ta;- his appearance unless Mr. Hyde
consents to waive all privileges
Word came to the District Attorney
yesterday that the bankers who have
been subppnaed to tell the Grand Jury
what they know about getting city de-
posits or about graft in the Sta,e Banking
Department have been advised by their
lawyers to obey the subppnas and talk
unreservedly. officials of several of the
national banks were irritated because
they thought the District Attorney had
no right to include them in an inquiry
Thai has to do with the methods Of the
SAFE Banking Department or to intima @
Iy suggestion that money might have
disappeared from thci' counters while
examiners were around and tha, such
disappearance was covered up. However,
their lawyers have told them that the
District Attorney is seeking To gc a ,he
bottom Of conditions that are de.es ahc
Legitimate bankers and thaJ they should
irr that reason. do all they can to Further
IN" investigation.
The Grand Jury did not hand down an
Indictment yesterday against former
president of theCarnegie Truss Company.
ecsuse i, listened 10 such sensational
''s'imony yesterday afternoon al made
delay in this case imperative. The
original intention had been 10 indict the
oficial in question for a misdcmeanor
and SO give him chance TO tell on his
associates. But the statement heard yes
'erday by the Grand Jury made tha-
body pause.
Lis,on L. Lewis. formerly the legal
adviser of the Cummins crowd IL charge
OF the Carnegie Trust Company and him
saf director in the concern. was the
important witness of the day. He ap-
Feared. he said. in order to straighten his
own record and because failure to appear
might lead to false conclusions as to his
attitude. Mr.. Lewis was called on
matters already exposed for the District
attorney by Banking Expert Joseph \.
tfod"rlck. and the statement that
Startled the jurors was in corrobo-
Ia'on Of the story that a rage Of the
directors minute book had been torn ont
and another page substituted in order
10 conceal the character Of the SI3O. 900
loan obtained by the Carnegl from the
Northern Bank.
his was the loan that Joseph G. Robin
tod the Grand jury Charles II Hyde
forced him to make by means of thres Is
that city deposits would be cut Of from
the Northern Bank unless Cumm.ns was
helFed Robin had said that Hyde told
nm he would have to help Cummins
or suffer himself and that if he did help
Cummlns he would be rewarded by in
creased city deposits in the Northern,
Robin helped Cuinmins and did get in
Creased deposits.
Mr. Lewis corroborates Robins story
that the $1,000 was an outright discount
granted to the Carnegie by the Northern
aud that the transaction was so recorded
oh August "a. 1910. on the minute book
h!t contrary to law. the loan was not
reported to the Banking Department on
August 81 In order to conceal from the
banking Department that the Carnegie
had contracted another obligation Il
change was made in the minute book on
Hep'embers, a change which, it is alleged
constituted forgery.
II was made to appear that the Car
neg" Trust Company had sold TO the
northern Bank for $4,000 partcipa
Ioh m bond purchase from the Public
h+HA in Grand street, On September ;
M" entry was made as of August 81, anO
ia" ~ Enal entry, which showed the rea
,"dIdn'"r Of the transaction, was rippec
ron Nv" book But II wasn't destroyed
N'ih"uuly was careless and left the tell
"' =" lylng in desk drawer. where
y WIS discovered by man who brought
" ~ 'r" District Attorney,
N "a' On August =, 1910 that the Car
log. rust Company go, u loan from the
~" Bank, In order II knep crooked
..- -'r'ign' ~" entry referring L
'-'"''' ~ had - he hanged also
~ '.-.Hipn mad" ~ seem that the
e9flegle AaQ parllclpAted with the North