The Sentinel=record., 1911-12-15
MONEY FOR
 DYNAMITING
FEDERAL GRAND JURY SEARCH ING FOR PAYMAsTER IN THE
 M'NAMARA CASE.
inquiry Striking Direct to the Heart of the conspiracy-McManiga to Go to Indianapolis
 Soon

lead into the heart of the alieged dynamite conspiracy, District Attor- ney Charles W. Miller. while the fed. eral grand jury held its initial hear ing in the case today, took up the question of who furnished the money for purchasing and paying the ex- penses of carrying about the country the explosives by which more than 100 structures were blown up?
 Mrs. Andrew ] Hull, now .. Kim ball, Neb., who, as Miss Edith Wine brenner, was bookeeper for the Inter. national Association of Bridge and Structural Iron Workers, and who was familiar with it's receipts and disbursements, was closely question ed by Mir Miller, while into the grand jury room were taken the stubs of checkbooks and accounting records of the association, during the five years in, which the explosions occur red. It was during large part of these five years that Ortie E. Me- Manigal. according to his confession. did dynamiting for John J. McNam- ara, the convicted secretary -treasur- CT, and was often in company with James B. McNamara.
 An important feature of McMani. gals confession attracted attention in connection with Mrs. Hull's visit to the district attorneys office This was the admission by McManigal that he usually received about $500 for each job, and that when he complain ed that part of the money was being held back from him James B. McNam- ara admitted seeing the stub for the cheek, and had said John J W, ''fix 1t up"
 The identity of the few witnesses called today was kept in strict secre cy and outsiders were not permitted in the corridors near the grand jury rooms.
 Mrs. Halls appearance at the fed eral building followed that of H. S. Hockin, acting secretary of the iron Workers Association, who had been conferring with Frank NJ Ryan, the president Hockin now occupies the position in the union formerly held by John J. McNamara.. Police or ficial of Indianapolis were present when records were taken out of the iron workers headquarters and form CT stenographers of McNamara were also present.
 MeManigal, in his confession, said at least $5,000 had been paid him, and said some person other than John J. McNamara did the paying. but af- ter he and James B. McNamara blew up viaduet in Cleveland June 22, 1910 he had had dispute with the 1910, he had had a dispute with the man over the amount he was to re- ceive and in consequence, l. ] took the matter in hand himself all the way through,
 For the Cleveland job McManigal said he and James B. were paid slOD each.
 Referring to an explosion at the Iroquois Steel Plant, at South ChI. cago McManigal said he used eighty pounds of dynamite, and added When 1 went to Indianapolis. J. J. McNam ara paid me $10O in cash, as that was all the cash he had in the office saw him pay J B. McNamara for thu job. !"
 That records were kept of some or the money paid out. was indicated in a part of the confession, in which Me Manigal tells of his complaint of the small pay he received before he dealt directly with McNamara. He said he previously had been receiving only $125 each for the jobs. but on a train between Cincinnati and In- dianapolis he discussed places that were still to be blown up with J. B. McNamara.
 "J. B. told me he had seen the stubs for the Mount Vernon, III. job and that they were made for s2zo. while I received only $50. After that J J McNamara handled the money he said.
 Among the other items mentioned by McManigal were s20o each for jobs