The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-12-08
N1c,lnniKal before Jury.

Az I.-en mCuuuiEni oetOrc jury.
Los Angeles Cal, December Tive
and the American Federation of Labor
back of me-. 1t took only $4,000 to
clear Vincent Altman, of Chicago, and
if they could not convict him. they
cannot convict me-"
This boast. attributed to-day by De-
tectlre Malcolm McLaren to James D..
Mcnamara, as the latter was being
taken on a train from Detroit to Chi
cago on the night of April L. last
caused Ortie l.. McManigal. then also
under arrest, to become anSercd with
MCNAMARA for his Independent state
ment. and was the first circumstance
that led McManigal to break from ms
companion and eventually to confess
his connection with various dynumit-
Ing expeditions throughout the coun-
try McAtunigars real confession had
been saved tor the trials OF james b.
and John j. Mcnamara, now under
sentence after their pleas, of life I'M
prisonment ana fifteen years, respec-
lively. but tins evidence, as well rs
that winch had been gathered by the
State, was turned over to-day to the
United states government,
The Federal grand jury heard Nc
Manigals story All day and Will hear
more of it tomorrow, laying the
foundations for the probe into the al
legged dyuamitins conspiracies that eN-
ttGded from coast to coast in the last
three years. The McNamaras were
not brought before the Federal grand
Jury, ana IT may be tina, McAianiGais
story viii be regarded sutlicirnt,
ana the other two Will be taken to
San quentin without Interrogation
here.
Others Arc Implicated.
Details OF what MCMaIlsal knows
of the alleged conspiracy ware given
to the grand jury to-day That his
story impiicateS other men in the In
ternational Association OF Bridge and
Structural Iron Workers became
known through various sources
McManigal alleges that persons
other than John J. Mcnamara, the sec
rotary and treasurer, paid MIN for the
twenty Jobs OF IynamitinG which ne
says ne accom- plished since 1907. AS
question had been raised as 10 the COM
pstency of testimony from convicted
EfelonS, it was considered unlikely that
the revelations of the McNamaras. II
any, would be of consequence, for such
testimony could not oe used in court
against those indicted.
The story of McAianlgal. however,
who has not yet been brought u trial,
Will be of great value to the govern
mcnt's Investigators. and the state
viii not Icy Hlil on tNt lHuICtHicntS
AGAINST him until the Feieral authori-
ties are through. Even taen. IT was
stated tonight on good authority. Dis
,lrlct. Attorney Fradericks will recon-
mend his discharge on account OF sig
mai service rendered.
Never KILLED Any One
"NtcManigal never killed anybody.
In fact he took good care never to,
endangar human lite," Assistant Dis
trict Attorney Ford said tonight
Malcolm McLaren. the detective who
arrested ]. Is. Mcnamara and McMani-
gal. and has been In close Cooperation
with oscar LAWYER, the specially APP
pointed prosecutor Of the government
invest!ga ton, stayed outside the grand
jury chamber to-day waiting for Sic
Sianigal. While thus waiting Nc
Laren gave version new In impor-
tant details, OF the evidence and cir
cumst ances which led UP 10 the arrest
OF McManisal with Mcnamara In De-
troil. and how the thoughtlessness OF
James 3. Mcnamara on the Journey
from Detroit TO Chicago save the de-
tecuves sroand for pe.suad.ng Me
Manigal to confess.
The statements OF Mcnamara we1A
made. according to McLarcn. in the
presence OF Detectives Guy B!ddinger
and William Reed. OF Chicago: Ray
mond Burns. son OF William J Burns.
and McLaren himself, MtLaren gave
III. dates, hours and places OF his
shadowing of McManisal for n long
period. When he confronted McMani,
gal with the knowledge ne had thus
gained, the dynamiter decided to break
from his companion and tell all he
knew.
About the Eth or sth OF April last"
McLaren said. IL picked up McMan-
iea! in his home in Chicago. He had
Just arrived from Springfield. Mass
where ne said he had blown up the
munieipsl tower He had stopped in