New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1911-08-16
AGAINST PENNY TRANSFER
Whitrldge Opposes Plan Suggest
ed by JoIine and Robinson.
BALKS UNIVERSAL SCHEME
Commission Takes More Time to
Study situation-People to
Have Another Hearing.

After the hearing on the order or the
Public Service Commission requiring the
restoration OF transfers at Isl points on
the surface lines. William d. Guthrie, spe-
cial counsel for the bondhoders' commit
tee of the Third Avenue Railroad, SAID
Yesterday that the receivers OF the Metro
politan Street Railroad Company had re-
Gently proposed a universal penny trans
fer" throughout the city as the best solu-
ton 10 lie whole transfer problem relating
10 the surface lines The proposition mas
not vet been made to the Public Service
Commission.
Frederick W Whitridge, receiver Tor the
Third Avenue Railroad. was not inclined
10 entertain the suggestion OF Receivers
Joline and Robinson. Mr.. Guthrie said. IN
der its terms II was provided that the los
points at which the Metropolitan and the
Third Avenue now issue free transfers
should he abolished, and in the opinion or
Mr.. Whitridge the public would be opposed
10 such an idea AS suggested. the lsS free
transfer points. as well as the l5l points
where no transfers of any sort are being
given. would become penny transfer points.
The plan further provided for an extra
penny for a transfer north or south from
a crosstown line. Thus II would cost a
passenger cents 10 transfer 10 cross
town line and cents TO resume the Jour-
ney north or south on the other side OF
the city.
II is understood that the 16s points re-
ferred 70 are those at which the companies
are now required by law to issue trans
fers. For that reason. II was pointed out
by representatives Of the Public Service
Commission. the transfers could not be
abolished at these points. II was not sug-
gested by Mr. Guthrie that the penny
transfer proposition provided FOR an amend
ment OF the law.
Section ISL Of the railroad law 1910
provides that no company shall charge
a passenger more than cents fare
for a continuous trip over any Of its lines
or lines controlled by il. or the branches
thereof Section %, Subdivision = Of the
Public Service Commission law, carries
this provision a step further and includes
the scent fare and transfer on all lines
contracted between companies for their
mutual use These TWO sections would
have TO be amended. IL was said. in order
10 permit Of abolishing the l6s points where
free transfers are now issued.
AS the proposition had been practically
vetoed by M. Whitridge 70 was thought
unlikely that II would ever reach the PUP
lie Service Commission
REPRESENTATIVES Of the various surface
companies attended the hearing yesterday
relative 70 the restoration Of transfers at
the Isl points where they were formerly
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Railway system was disintegrated An
swers from the various companies express
ing a willingness 10 restore the transfers.
according 10 the order of the commission
adopted July H. were read into the record
by Arthur Du Bots Of counsel for the
commission. Commissioners Eustis, Malt
bic and McCarror were present An ad-
iournment 10 Friday was taken at the
suggestion Of Commissioner McCarroH. who
said the commissioners desired a little
more time 10 study the answers.
Assemblyman Mark Goldberg suggested
that a further opportunity for presenting
the needs and interests Of the people in
regard 10 the transfer situation should be
granted incidentally. Mr. Goldberg re-
marked that his own bill. drawn to COM
Pc the companies 10 give udHSleIS lOr a.
scent fare. had reached third reading IN
the Senate having passed the Assembly
He thought the bill should be pressed IN
less the Public Service Commission OBJ
tanned the desired transfers. Mr.. Guthrie
asked that Mr.. Goldberg's remarks he ex-
plunged from the record as not being per
tinent 10 the proceeding. but his motion
was overrued by the commissioners. and
Mr.. Goldberg was informed that he would
have another opportunity 10 be heard.