Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1911-09-30
COMMON CARRIER
PHASE TAKEN UP
HELPLEsSNISS or Producers
TOiD BA on WITNESSES
HOW THE STANDARD works
BIDS lligh on Crude and Cuts Refined
Product to StUnglc tho IN
dependent Concerns.

United states Court room I'm the pres
euco Of large number Of pipe limo
officials ana oil producers, Frank
Lyon occupied the bench as examiner
for the Interstate Commerce COM
mission, and August Guthelm was
present as counsel for the commission.
Among the attorneys and officials
of the pipe line companies were +. A.
LcoNy genera manager OF the Gulf
Pipe Line Company; j, E. O'Nell.
yice-presldcnt and general manager
of the Prairie oil and Gas Company.
u. G. stewart manager Of the Olla-
l. Beatty. counsel for the Texas COM
pany, +. G. Proctor and Judge James
Dipgs, the first being the general
counsel for the Gulf Pipe Line Com
pany and the second being the local
counsel, ". l.. Fitzpatrick counsel
for the Prairie OH and Gas Company;
Albert l.. Wilson counsel for the Tn
Gle sam OH Company and George
S. Dareson, president OF the Gulf
Pipe Line Company.
At the opening Of the proceedings,
Mr.. Guthcim counsel for the COM
mission, made "A statement in the
way Of an introduction to what was
to follow. He said the first hearing
was before Commissioner Lane at Los
Angeles, Calf. on September 20, and
that the second was also before Com
missioner Lane at Houston Tex, on
September 25. The purpose Of the
"a al haI oh
to diIover the investment in the
pipe lines, the cost of doing business,
and their methods Of doing business.
Commissioner Lane, at the conclus-
ion Of the Houston haerlng, had been
compelled to go to New Orleans, and
the hearing at Tulsa had been placed
In the hands Of Mr.. Lyon as special
examiner. the particular purpose at
this place being to discover If there
Commerce Commission could be OF
service to the producers,
Captain II. Y Arnold was the first
witness called. Captain Arnold was
formerly connected with the Buff Re-
nnng Company at Port Arthur. and
had charge of the construction Of that
company $ great refining plant of that
place, Since coming to oklahoma
he had become a producer of oil as
a member Of the firm Of Steinberger
q Arnold He was first examined
by Mr.. Guthcim, Examiner Lyon him.
self occasionally taking a hand. Later
on he was examined at considerable
length by Mr.. Fitzpatrick of the Prai-
rie OH and Gas Company, and at ono
point there was a very lively tilt be-
tween Examiner Lyon and Mr.. Ftz-
patrick. Mr.. Proctor Of the Gulf Pipe
Line Company also took a hand in
the cross examination.
Captain Arnold said he had always
sold his OIL TO the pipe line companies
and would rather sell to them than
anybody else because it was more con-
voulent to do so. At the same time,
he did not believe that he had always
received as much as his oil was worth
Under the circumstances, however,
he was unable To- help himself.
William MuHr's was the next man
ou the slnud jc said he had a pro-
"afi0r .l 500 'arrpls a day and had
always sold lo th' pipe line compa-
uies but had not received what he
thought his oil was worth. lie said
there had been many buyers Of fuel
oil In this market from Texas, but
that owing 10 the high transportation
charges between here and Texas
points II was impossible for him to
compete with the pipe line people in
the Texas trade. lie said 1t was solely
matter of the cost Of transportation.
Mr.. Proctor Of the Gulf Pipe Line
Company cross-examlned Mr. Mowrls
at some length as to what constitutes
fuel oil, attempting to show that tho
crude oil Of Oklahoma would not he
suitable for fuel purposes without
first having some sort Of treatment.
There was some lively scrapping be-
tween Proctor and Mowrs, and in an
swer TO one Of Mr.. Proctors questions.
Mr. Mowris said It didn't make any
difference to him whether a market
Ing company owns pipe line or a
ferry boat, the point ne was Interested
I'm solely being what he could get for
his oit
At the conclusion of the cross-ex-
animation of Mr.. Mowr.s. a series Of
questions was propounded to him by
gentleman whose name had nor
heretofore been announced He evil
IDENTIFY had some very clear and forci-
bic ideas. especially as to the securing
Of crude oil by the refineries and
the distribution and sale of refined
oil When he was proceeding to make
a statement as to a certain point Ex-
am.ner Lyon insisted that he should
take the oath and be examined as a
witness when he went on the stand
he gave his name as +. A. Parsons,
and said he was president and man.
ager of the Kansas Co Operative Re-
hning Company Of Chanute Kan. Mr..
Parsons made a very intelligent and
witness. He occupied most
Of the time of the forenoon session,
and was cross-eXamiued by the attor-
neys of each one Of the pipe line