The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1911-10-04
MEMORY BAD ON
ELECT|0NExP[NSEs
Senator stephenson's Campaign Man
ager Can't Recall Specific Incl
dents When Questioned.

MILWAUKEE,. Wis. Oct S.-When
z. A. Edmonds. 1905 campaign man
ager OF Senator Isaac Stephenson. re-
suIGed the witness stand before the
Hepburn senatorial committee today.
the committee members continued
their efforts TO secure details OF the
expenditures Of more than $l07 900 in
Stephenson's last election.
The aged senator, the first witness
yesterday. admitted he spent the
money, but could not explain the chan
nels through which II went. Likewise
Edmonds could give few details IA IN
how the money was expended. saying
II was used for Organization" I'm
fiuencing'' and taking care OF coun-
ties. He wanted II especially under
stood that he had handled no money
directly except the first $4,000 given
him by Stephenson and that he had
not taken up the management OF the
campaign for pay, but because he felt
Il an honor. He believed much OF
the money was wasted and said he
had not anticipated such campaign.
The attendance at today's session
was larger owing to the calling OF j.
Cleave, OF Marinette, and Rodney
Sackett, OF Berlin, Wis, who handled
the biggest sums for Stephenson
Among those summoned for TO-DAY
we're II. ]. Brown. OF Marinette. ana
]. Earl Morgan, or Oshkosh, sons-ln-
law of Stephenson, who handled mucn
money In the primary campaign.
The session was adjourned yester-
day that Edmonds might refresh MS
memory as to how certain sums were
! arent. He was first questioned al
length about giving 5000 to A.. n
| Ames. of Madison, on July IL, lsoe.
| Edmonds testified Ames was one OF
the first to come to Milwaukee to meet
him. They discussed the organiza-
| tjon OF Dane county for Stephenson.
Asked what the details of organiza-
tion were. he said It meant sending
men into various precincts TO look
| after things, put up posters, etc.
"Did Ames render you statement
as to what the money was spent lot
mo, sir"
did you ask him TOT"
Sure"
"Dfd you discuss the use he had
made of this 5000"
"I am not certain that / did.
| "Then at no time had you any
knowledge OF the use of this money!
| "Only in a general way"
| "Did YOU admonish these men to
keep within the law?'
81 don't remember that DID.
| "When you gave money did you
have any conversation in which you
admonished them to be careful?'
| az am endeavorlng to recall what
was said in some particular instances
hut cannot recall any; we would talk
over the political situation IN gen
eral."
"That 10 very general term ano
YOU have said II several times; IL IL
encumbering the record; we want IN
formation; you are responslple
financial agent and we want more
definite statement from you
81 can't remember any particular
conversation"
over and over again Chairman Hey
burn asked the same question 10
various forms to get some dennitt
conversation Edmonds might nave
have with his agents, taking up the
| reiations between Edmonds and G. G
Wayland after concluding the exam
nation about Ames.
/ Questioned by Senator Pomerene
Edmonds said he had local man
ager for practically each county dur,
ling the preliminary campaign; tna'
there was an understanding WITH
about half of them that they were t6
receive personal compensation but nc