The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1911-03-30
WHAT HE SAYS i.
S.nator TlInan Gives Interesting later.
view on Many Topics.
OLD PARTIES PASSING

Believes the Democrats Have Golden
Opportunity-Glass Tells Him
.aThat's Old Ben TYllman, AL
Right, but"--Opinion of Governor
Bleas, Hasn't Changed Much"
Senator Tillman was in Columbia
a few tlays ago, and discussed the
tariff situation and national politics
in general, with especial emphasis
upon, the possibility of Democrat:
success at the next election. Sena-
tor Tillnan believes that the Demo-
Gratis have golden opportunity.
In al interview with the Columbia
correspondents Of the News and Cour-
ier the Senator talked Ike ne used
to talk. physically. I am a bit
weak, he said. "The machinery
doesn't run just right.' When looS
in the glass, say: 'That's old Ben
Tillmau. all right but when I try to
go through some of my old stunts, !
find Pm not worth a damn"
.'Will you stand for re-election?'
the Senator was asked.
"I have already said," he replied,
that if my health is fairly goCd I
shall run again. do not wish the
Office unless I can fill it reasonably
we'll" The Senator has not decided
whether he will attend the special
session of Congress; he probably will
not. He is paired with n Nv Eng
lander, whose positions on TIE tariff
would likely be the opposite to his
own.
"And what do you think of Gov
ernor Blease?" reporter ventured.
II have given my opinion of
Blease," said Mr.. Tillman. 81 gave
it right after the last election. l.;
hasn't changed much. He has disap-
pointed me somewhat, but he has
had a hard road to travel. You news
paper folks have nagged him cont;n-
ually."
Senator TiIlman hopes the Demo-
Gratis will tackle the tariff as a whole,
not I'm spots. He thinks the whole
task rerilous in the extreme. Every
party that has tried to revise the tar
i'll has shortly afterward gotten it
in thu, neck" he said.
"Oh, Bailey just got into pet" /"
the Senator said, when asked about
the Texans resignation. HE swung
his little hatchet. the head few up
and he got his head bunged up |
think he'll be good hereafter :"
In general upon the subject Of eA-
pendItures Senator Tillman believes
that they should be cut down. He
says there are too many useless Of
fees and clerkships in WasL!agtoE.
He was talking the other day to some
Senators and he asked them WHY
shouldn't some of these things be cut
out by the Democrats, and they re-
piled: ooh, let's, wait little while,
let's don't do it yet"
The Senator's comment was: Its
always that way
In the matter of expenses he re-
ferred to the palace of new offices,
for which building the Senate has
been criticised.
Senator Tillman believes that Har-
mon Is the man for the Democratic
nomination, that Is that Harmon
seems to stand the best chance of be-
ing nominated. Harmon has the
advantage just now" said Tillman,
.'he has made good Governor"
Senator Tillman believes that
Champ Clark's time will come, it de-
pending on how he conducts himself
as Speaker of the House as to wheth-
er or not he will in time be the Dem
ocratic standard-bearer.
In addition to stating that he was
a little disappointed in Governor
Blease. although the Governor has
had hard road to travel, Sen. Till
man referred to his pardon record by
asking question:: Don't you
think" he said, that Governor
Blease's large pardon list might be
explained by the possibility that there
are a large number Of meritorious
petitions for pardon left over from
the Ansel Administration, because of
the we'll known fact that Governor
Ansel did not wish generally to inter
fere with the Courts verdicts?"
Senator Tillman continued that
also Governor Blease may be allow
ing his goodness of heart to influence
hirl to some extent in granting par
donS."
Senator Tillman believes that the
old parties are passing and that 1t
will not he long before they disinte-
crate. '"If the Democrats are wise in
dealing with the tariff this party will
not break up; otherwise it will. The
Democrats have a golden opportun-
ity."
He does not wish the Democrats to
show too much spirit Of grabbing
at the offices just for the sake Of the
holding of same, but he wants to see
some good work done. He believes
the Republicans have by long tenure
of Office grown corrupt.
On the Democratic Presidential
nossihility Senator Tillman, in adtii-