The Birmingham age-herald., 1911-07-16
Deneen Says MT. cVeagh Came to Him for InfOr-
 nation in 1909
TOLD THE SECRETARY
 OF TELEPHONE TALK
Activities of the Chicago Newspa- pers Are Brosched at Hearing of the Senate Investiga-
 ton Committee

1a1tS adm1nlStratlon was brought into the Lorimer investigation in new light
 when Governor Deneen of Illinois testi-
 fled that as early as August, 1909. Sec | retary of the Treasury MacVeagh sent
 for him ito ascertain for the President
 matters regarding the election of Sena- | tor Lorimer."l This was about three
 months after MT. Lorimers election. Whether Secretary MacVeagh was
 proceeding on his own initiative or the
 President had actually suggested that
 he interview Governor Deneen was not
 revealed. It was not developed whether
 an extended inquiry was being con
 ducted by the administration into the
 manner of Senator Lorimers election. | Governor Deneen mentioned the name
 of Secretary MacVeagh when he was
 asked to whom he had given his version
 of the famous telephone conversation between Edward Hines and himself on | the day Lorimer was elected. It was during this conversation, so Hines tes | tified, Deneen promised to support Lori- mer. This Governor Deneen denied. I Hines testified he said over the tele lphone that he was on his way to Spring | field to bring Deneen a message from | Senator Aldrich and President Taft
 about Lorimers election. Deneen testi-
 fled Hines said the President was send
 ing him a message through Aldrich who
 would have George Reynolds, president
 of the Continental National bank. de-
 liver it. Governor Deneen today testi-
 fled that when he responded to Secre
 tary Macveagh's request to call at 1 the federal building in Chicago, MT.
 MacVeagh said he wanted to ascer tain for the President matters pertain | ing to Lorimer's election" and that he | Deneen) jokingly replied; Ask the | President the man who is said to havA -lr the message that did it." 1 Governor Deneen added that in re-
 sponse to further inquiry from the Sec retary he related the conversation be-
 tween himself and Hines.
 The conversation lasted only 10 or Is minutes for the Secretary after I
 had related my part in the election; said
 that he was astonished at the reports" | added Governor Deneen.
 l The afternoon session practically was devoted to the Hines-Deneen telephone conversation. It is regarded as having
 an important bearing the Lorimer claim that Deneen favored Lorimer's cleo 1 ton.
 When the committee resumes its
 hearing Monday the testimony will be re-
 garding the activities of Edward Hines In
 the Lorimer election.
 Publication of Confession Governor Deneen said that before the publication of the alleged White confess 1 son Editor Keey of the Chicago tri- bune suggested to him that special ses- sion of the legislature be called to con- slider the Lorimer case. The witness said that after the publication he tentatively wrote a message proposing & special ses- sion. At the consultation with his ad- visers, however. the conclusion was reached that the investigation probably would include who were guilty and the | special session was not called. Governor Deneen told of being in the | office of the Tribune the night the White | story was printed. He said he read prob ably the first copy printed and walked out with 1t hidden under his vest. He explained that he had been warned that everyone leaving the building that night would be searched.
 Whites reference to the $30,000 loss to the corruption jack pot because of the governor vetoing 'one bil was taken up." Governor Deneen said that he had exam ined his vetoes and guessed" White was referring to the corruption bill," revis- ing the corruption laws of the state. Governor Deneen said he vetoed it be- cause it allowed 'barbershop to incor- porate and buy a railroad" The witness said a large number of the leading law yers of the state had seen him in behalf of the bill.
 Did MT. Bancroft, general counsel for the International Harvester company see you about not vetoing the bill?" asked MT. Hanecy.
 T do not recall whether he called be- fore or after the bill was passed" said the governor, who added that he did not know whether Bancroft favored the fea- ture of the bin which was objectionable
 Denies Making Prediction
 Governor Deneen denied that when Rep resentative Charles Durfee informed him he was going to leave Hopkins for Lori mer, he told Durfee Lorimer would be elected and that the election would be satisfactory to him..
 q tried to prevent Durfee voting for Lorimer," said the governor, "and sug- gested to him that I would probably have to call special session of the legisla- ture in the fall to pass on waterways
  candidates would fight the matter out be- for the people.
 Conversations Governor Deneen had with Frank B. Moves, then publisher of the Chicago Record Herald were gone into The witness denied that Moves had
 said to him that Lorimer was the only republican who could take or consistently have the office of senator by democratc' votes" He also denied that Moves had told him that if an attempt was made by Lorimer to elect Speaker Shurtleff sen- ator that every vote the newspapers could control would be thrown to Hop kins and Hopkins would be elected. q do not recolect any such conversa- ton and do not recall any conversation in which he claimed that he could change any votes in the legislature added Gov ernor Deneen.
 Clippings Are Read The telephone conversation between Edward Hines, the Chicago lumberman and Deneen on May 26, the day Lorimer was elected, was next discussed. Attor- ney Hanecy read an article in the Chi cago Tribune, written by c. s. Raymond from Springfield on May 26. 1909. In this