The Birmingham age-herald., 1911-07-15
Hanecy Interrogates Wit ness in Interest of Mir.
 LOrimer
FIRE OF QUESTIONS
 LASTS FOR SIX HOURS
Attorney Seeks to Show That Deneen Organized the Legislature Dur ing His Term and Not
 Lorimer

Washington, July 14-For nearly six hours today Gov. Charles S, Deneen or H. linos underwent cross examination at the hands of counsel for Senator Lorimer concerning the testimony the governor gave yesterday to the Senate committee which Is Investigating the election of Senator Lorimer. It is expected tomorrow the governor will be cross-examined about events on the day Lorimer was elected.
 Nearly every phase of Illinois politics was entered Unto by Attorney Elbridge Hanecy in cross-examination. The testi- mony constitutes a history of political algnments in Illinois from the time MT. Deneen was first elected states attorney for Cook county.
 MT. Hanecy sought to show that 1t was Deneen who organized the legislatures during his term as governor and not LOT inner, but MT. Deneen was certain that he himself did not dictate the chairmen of committees and that Lorimer had at tended a conference somewhere" where in it was agreed to have the minority re- publicans and democrats organize the house which voted for Lorimer.
 Mir. Hanecy sought to show that If 15 Deheen men had voted for Hopkins on the first days balloting for senator Hop- kins would have been elected. MT Deneen was not willing to say that all these 10 were fullfedged Deneen men.
 Hopkins received 61 votes in the house, declared MT. Haneey, "and these 15 more would make 7e and that would have been enough to have elected him. wouldn't il, for you say he had major ity in the senate?'
 Well. s1 and IS make 7s,' respond ed Mir. Deneen.
 That far you are correct. But your conclusion is wrong, He would have been elected had not the 61 changed their votes, but they would have changed"
 MT. Deneen could not recall, he said exactly when his friends decided or ing the election of Hopkins. but said he felt 1t was some time after the bal loting for senator had begun.
 T didn't have a stop clock, diary or phonograph,' declared MT. Deneen when pressed for a more definite an swer.
 The witness explained that all that W dS dOiic lo pOSipOHc ilophil CioS- tion was to have about 10 men vote for Foss In the last ballot, he said, they returned to Hopkins.
 Standing of Republicans
 Mr. Hanecy first sought to show that Senator Lorimer was instrumental in making Deneen states attorney of Cook county. Illinois, position from which the witness testified he procured in salary and fees in the eight years of his occupancy about $300,000.
 Senator Jones interrupted to say that he did not see what bearing that had on the case even if Deneen got the fees illegally. Mir. Hanecy then took ur another line of examination
 MT. Hanecy led MT. Deneen by long series of questions to give rating to the political standing of most of the re- pubicans of Chicago for several years past At one point Governor Deneen said Lorimer supported him for states attor- ney, but declined to give the senator all the credit for his nomination., either for the first or second term.
 Governor Deneen said he did not know that Senator Lorimer in 1866 refused to attend a conference after ihe passage of the primary law, because he intended to obey. Governor Deneen argued that neither the spirit or letter of the jaw was interfered with by candidates being recommended to primary voters.
 Legislature of 1909
 At the afternoon session MT Hanecy asked Governor Deneen about the legis!a- ture in 1909 when Shurtleff was elected speaker by democratic and republican votes and Inquired if the witness ''wanted to be known as testifylng that Senator Lorimer had anything to do with anybody that organized the legislatule.
 T have no knowledge declared MT Deneen. II was not pre- sent when the agreement was reached.
 Don't you know that Senator Lorin CT made a non Bipartisan campaign for deep waterway in 1908, speaking m every conn ty of the state?" inquired Mir. Hanecy.
 'I understood 1t was a-b-partisan cam paign. Congressman Rainey went over the state organizing the deep-, waterway movement. and disorganiziag me- he piled MT. Deneen.