Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-06-30
GOING TO BEVERLY DENIES He B0ASTED
President and Mrs. Taft will Hines Cross Examined Before
Leave This Afternoon. the LorImer Committee
Tn pE AWAY FOR SUMMER HETTLER CONTRADICTED
Regiments Says He Did Not Claim credit Tor
From San Antonio Ordered. Result OF Election
LAND FOR ARMY MANEUvERS ONLY A MESSAGE BEARER
- rrac+ Near Tulla- Of hat
AboutP
Hines Cross-Examined Before
the Lorimer Committee.
HETTLER CONTRADICTED
Says He Did Not Claim Credit for
Result of Election.
ONLY A MESSAGE BEARER"
Certain He Was Not Mistaken in His
Testimony Of What Aldrich
Said About President.

Edward Hines, the Chicago millionaire
lumberman. whose name has been linked
with an alleged one-hundred- housand
dollar fund to elect William Lorimer to
the Senate. was subjected today to rigid
cross-examination before the Senate COM
mittee investigating the election of Sena-
tor Lorimer. The cross-examination was
conducted by John H. Marble, attorney
for the committee.
Mr.. Hines contradicted sworn testimony
by President Herman II. Hettler Of the
Hettler Lumber Company of Chicago that
Hines had boasted to him of having per-
| sonally elected Lorimer.
He denied that the lumber interests
! raised a big sum to lobby for tariff legis-
lation in 1909, or that the lumber inter-
ests had anything to do with the Lorimer
| election.
Mr.. Hines declared that he was tabso-
lutely certain" he was not mistaken about
his testimony that Senator Aldrich stated
to him that the President was anxious
to have Mr. Lorimer elected. Asked
about a denial of this from the White
House after his testimony at Springfield,
Mr.. Hines merely said that such q denial
had never been called to his attention"
Sought to Prove Alibi.
With his pockets bulging with docu-
ments. Mr. Hines resumed the witness
stand.
Mr.. Hines counsel sought to show by
these papers that Mr.. Hines was not in
Chicago last February, about the time
Arylr M
the International Harvester Company.
claims Mr.. Hines called upon him to re-
fresh his memory in regard to the famous
Union League Club conversation, In
which Mr.. Funk testified Mr.. Hines asked
him to contribute $4,000 to reimburse
ne-hundred- -thousand-d dollar Lorimer cleo
ton fund.
Bills for services rendered him at
hotel in this city for the month pre-
ceding March 4 were presented. The
amounting to $355.50.
Better read the items" suggested
Kern. The largest item was $3.50 cash.
Another bill was for more than $500.
bills are concerned. for you to have been
absent from the city and for your wife
to have remained alone at tho hotel?'
asked Senator Jones. - q
Yes. sir. / went to Philadelphia once,
but never to Chicago"
Another document was q diagram of
the rooms Of the Union League Club BY
a series Of stars and letters Mr.. Hines
marked the spot where he first saw Mr..
Funk and their relative positions during
the interview.
The witness produced q plat Of the
Chicago river, over the treatment OF
which there is said to have been a con-
troyersy between the International Har-
vester Company on one side and Senator
Lorimer. Mr.. Hines and others on the
other side.
Hearing Of Lorimer's Success.
Cross-examined by Attorney John H.
Marble, for the committee, Mr.. Hines
said that at the exact moment Senator
Lorimer was elected he CHines was at
the Union League Club, at Chicago. tele-
phoning to the Office Of the Associated
Press in that city to ascertain the result
OF the balloting at Springfield. The wit
ness could not definitely fix the hour OF
telephoning, saying that 1t was between
] 80 and 3 pm. He related how he was
told that the voting was on at Springfield.
that Mr.. Lorimer had 1O3 votes, and
finally. after he held the telephone for q
moment, that Senator Lorimer was elected.
Attorney Marble asked IL the witness
did not feel very happy over the result
Mr.. Hines said he was not 30 certain
about that.
Didn't you consider the election was
mo. j considered that I was q mere
message bearer. and I never did know
what the effect Of that message was
Contradicts Hettler.
Mr. Hines testified that as he stepped
out of the booth from the talk with the
Associated Press he met Herman H.
Hettler of Chicago. competing lumber
man. The witness denied the testimony
by Mr.. Hettler at the Helm hearing at
Springfield that he told Mr.. Hettler he
had just been talking to the new senator,
Mr.. Lorimer. and that IT elected him.
did 1t myself, personally Mr.. Hines
testified that he merely told Mr.. Hettler
he had been talking to the Associated
Press and understood Mr.. Lorimer had
| been elected senator.
Mr.. Hines said he and Mr.. Hettler had
never been friends. He explained that his
| company got the trade Of the Pennsyl-
vania Railroad Company away from the
| Hettler concern
| Ibid you use any language which might
| have been honestly interpreted as being
I elected him; did 1t myself. person
| ally?'"
NO. sir: on the contrary IL is not an
| honest mistake Practically all that was
| said was that Mr.. Lorimer had been elect
| ed and that / was very happy over IT.
| Mr.. Hines said that his attorneys in
! formed him he would probably be called
to Springfield to reply to Mr.. HettIer, and
that he remained in Chicago so as to be
| within reach.
| Don't you think you have been rather
unfortunate as to the choice of gentlemen
with whom you talk as shown by the tes-
| timony here?'
Il don't think have from what has
| been said here"
Fund Raised by Lumber Interests.
Mr.. Hines said he did not know how
much money the lumber interests raised
ington during the tariff legislation of 1909
which was about the time Mr. Lormer
was elected He admitted that he must
have known the amount expended about
the time he was asked to contribute to q
deficiency He was willing to make ar
AFFIDAVIT that II was not $4,000
| Attorney Marble demanded to know OF
Mr. Hines where he got copies OF tele-
garding the ADMINISTRATORS alleged de-
sire to have Mr.. Lorimer elected. They
bore the date OF May rs. the day before
the election.
The witness said his secretary pro.
cured copies OF his kilograms from Mr.
IIorimer and some from his own notes
81 remember that those are the tele.
grams i sent" added Mr.. Hines.
Meantime Senator LOrfmer left the room
hurriedly and returned with two tele
grams.
Here are the original kilograms thai
Mr.. Lorimer received from Mr.. Hines.
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