The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1911-07-12
CHAMBERLA|ND DOWNS
SUTHERLAND IN TILT
During Debate, Utah Senator
Says Oregon Is a Law Unto
Itself.
$50 rs UTAH" is RETORT
Passage at Arms Occurs During
Discussion of the Arizona
Constitution.
80 IS UTAH" IS REToRT

WASHINGTON, July Ito an
"amiable band of insurgents and
soothsayers' all efforts in behalf OF
the initiative, referendum and recall
provisions of the Arizona constitution
were traced by Senator Sutherland OF
Utah, today He addressed the senate
in opposition to the approval of that
instrument.
Accepting the application of the ref
erendum principle es wise where 1t ap-
plies to such general enactments as a
state constitution, Mr., Sutherland con
tended that the general public never
would give sufficient time to general
legislation to pass intelligcntly upon 1T,
What he objected to in the referendum
was not its historical application, but
its historical extension.
Senator Chamberlain Of Oregon OBJ
iected to Senator Sutherland's 8 state
ment that with the referendum IN OPP
Grafton there could be no amendment
or repeal Of laws once passed, He SAD
that the Oregon Legislature had had the
courage to repeal laws thus approved
by the people.
F" Well, Oregon is law unto itself,
said Mr.. Sutherland.
$50 is Utah. retorted Senator
Chamberlain
.sThc people as WHOLE Sutherland
said. Hbave neither the inclination,
the specialized training, nor the time
requisite to enable them to master the
thousand and one details necessary TO
qualify them wisely to discharge the
functions Of ordinary Legislation
.sUnder the initiative as provided.
proposed laws Will. of course, frequent,
iv be drafted by a clique of Interested
persons, perhaps all of one way OF
thinking. II will not he considered
and debated in the house ms legislative
enaciments are, there will be little, II
any, opportunity for the consideration
Of oppos,ng views in framing the iaw.
slThe power of compromise, which II u,
q necessity in the making of laws, WIZ
he wholly absent The chances are ~;
together in favor of the adoption
more unwise laws than ever by our i's
! islators, n,
S'The recall puts into the scale, upon
ono side or the other, in every case
where strong public feeling, exists, h the
ort;firiaIly induced anxiety Of the
;udoc for the retention of his Placc.
| Tbe recall institutes n tribunal Where
ercrvbody decides and nobody IS re-
snonsiblc; where Mt least % per CEN
| ~ fhe mem bersbip have already' as w
indoe's accuscrs, pre1udiced ms cnss
and from whose arbitrary, ana unJ'''
| findings there Is no appeal r
NJ Sutherland poked fun at Sena-
.or pourne's Hcomposite citizen. made
renly to Senator Owen s contention 10, M
| ~ rigbf 10 recall even judges OF VIZ
snnreme court, and generally cr''ls'aoInI iii
The The attitude OF the progrcsslves OF a''
parties as atoplah- ,,,, nrenared
Although speaker r. reaanfi ra4siy interrupt RFsPat
speech in the senalr 10 ,Sros ,,non ihe pro-
oa, .r.ss,,,cs were more than ,hey ,Ind c9n,dd
bear in silence aud be wss capg aa BIS BIS
to account by frIgL.s iSi'on Of Montana also
sgd TO "H1 Interrupt but sutherland de-
rned to give way gyhImg hsy H,f Wished to an
10 und,Ji ,i, sncech They could not do IL u
| l,Iu time.