New-York tribune., 1911-12-04
Asserts Organized Labor Leader
Was Long Aware of the Nc
NamaraS' Guilt in the
Dynamite Cases.
EVEN AS FUND WAS RAISED
U. S. Attorney in Indianapolis to
Prosecute Illegal Carrying Of
Explosives, and Erectors
Association Will Aid in
Solving Outrages.

were guilty" was the statement made
to-day by w. J. Burns. the detective
who caused the arrest of the McNa-
mara brothers. who on Friday last
pleaded guilty in Los Angeles Burns
conferred here to-day with the United
States ATTORNEY, Charles W. Miller, all
John Kirby. jr.. Of Dayton, Ohio rresi-
dent Of the National Association or
Manufacturers at the home oi DaNld
NJ. Parry, a former president OF tha' or
ganization. Mr.. Burns said;
When Mr.. Gompers says he was sur
prsed and that the MoNamaras has &C.
o.ived hin, in declaring their 'nnocencs
bs tells what is not true. Mr.. Gompers
knew tn. McNsmaras we're guilty ana
has known il all along. He knew Il at
the time he and the heads Of the 'rter'
national unions conferred in Indian
spoIis on the question Of raising funos
for the defence Of the prisoners some
Of the Other union men knew ot the'r
quilt. too.
cie-ero. parrow told th- labor r'eT
al that meeting in indianapolis tfat ho
did not believe framed up this case
In his conference to-day with Unlteo
StatAs Attorney charles w Miller MT.
Burns discussed the evidence TO be pre-
sented TO the federal grand jury Then It
resumes its session on December Il.
Neither would make 3 public statement
In relation to the details Of their consul
tation.
No Favor for Any Ore,
"We shall not rest until we have
brought to justice all those connected
with the dynariting outrages through
out the country" said Mr.. Burns. l am
no respecter of persons. and whether the
men associated with the McNamaras are
higher up or lower down they will be
prosecuted
ANY exposure that may be made viii
come through indictments. II indictments
are returned. for viola ton Of the federal
tatute regulating interstate transporta-
tion Of explosives" said Mr.. Miller in
talking in a. general way of the grand
jury's work.
In several different directions. he said
information was being prepared for the
grand Jury tending to show that the NC
Namaras. Ortie McManigal "and others
had violated the federal statute.
Along this line Mr.. Burns conferred
to-day with J. Kirby. ir- president OF
the National Association Of Manufact-
,Irers. and y. NJ. Parry, former rresl-
dent Of the organization, which Is inter-
ested with the National Erectors' Asso-
cistion. il is announced, i'm a crusade
against alleged depredations aimed at
EMPLOYERS that maintain the open shop
principle.
Many Under Surveillance.
Tho National Erectors Association is
by ]. a. 6. Badorf. assistant
TO Walter Drew, executive officer ol the
association. Mr.. Badorf arrived to-day.
Several detectives I'm the employ OF the
association have been in the city lor
weeks and are said TO be watching thc
Of persons presumed To nave
been concerned with John j. Mcnamara 5
affairs during the years he was in this
citv as secretary of the International As-
sociation Of Bridge and Structural Iron
Workers. whose books and correspond
ence are I'm the hands of the federal
grand Jury. Mr. Badorf said:
Tho fact that two men are to be punished
for dvnamiting Is not the most important
feat1re of this investigation. The members
of the National Eroctors Association are
interested chiefly in exposing ana brlEtliS
In Justice the persons reSpon-lpl" luI one
explosions, destructive II bridge
and structural iron work. since August
TOO In many states, from N3fs- huSrttS
to tie pacific Coast.
The property destroyed was that OF com
,.aniaa employing nou-union iron workers.
l,Che cost of this campaign Of terrorism was
dnnruous and il was Systematically carried
On we assert that number OF men be-
sides the McNamaras were concerned IN
- DIans for these explosions. and We pur-
,inse to assist in every way i'm uncoveIirg
iitor, we shall lend every assistance to ;Ee
sldaraI authorities. and We have every s.
'',,rauce that the investigation F.il be- most
thorough
20 information was Gbtainable here
of the whereabouts Of Frank
,t Rvan, president of the Association #
,.o, workers. The acting secretary.
II : Hockin. said he was advised that
,,r RYAN would arrive in this city to-
night from Atlanta, Ga, whore he was
.osterday. He had heard nothing from
hin, to-day. he said.
He added that no meeting of the ex-
oo,,ive board Of the iron workers asso-
oiat,on would be called to take action IN
roIotion to the Mcnamara brothers un-
,i Mr.. Ryan's return to the hcadquar-
ters here
do you continue to affirm that you
do not believe that the ex-
acutive board should repudiate John j.
as secretary-treasurer Of the
q, eanization?" Mr.. Hockn was asked
81 have been quoted to that effect" he
answered, but now refuse even To say
whether or not | was quoted correctly
rho executive board will determine our
policy"
From indianapolis Mr.. Burns said he
,.as going 10 Cleveland, and thence 10
New York, and that he probably would
he back in indianapolis later this week,
hut he was not sure. He said he ex-
meets 10 go 10 the Pacific Coast in a
short time, all Of his travels being In
with the Mcnamara case
HUNTED FOX BROWNS ITSELF.
Newton. y j.. Dec "a silver fox
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