Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1911-07-25
SUGAR WAR.
(coatinued IRON Page one.)

OF sugar. All OF tlt IeltttiiSS ild
been robbed for years by this system
and with Havemeyer cooperation /
organized a trade bureau which did
away With the losses of all retineries.
About the doing away of guarantee
prices To wholesalers" asked Mr.. Gar
rett. did moi all the refineries agree to
that
oh There was no agreement at all
1t kept up until a few months ago
Did YOU talk to Havemeyer about
it?"
Yes, and all the other refiners. And
/ also broke up the practice of cop-
signing sugar to wholesalers and OF
the brokers dividing their fees OF 10
cents a barrel with big purchasers. l
also think certain refiners refunded
that five cent loss to the brokers'.
Are you making as much sugar now
as You did in the DAYS of the war;
Yes, much more"
You made sugar at loss during
the Sight %
Yes off and an And the war is
moi ended yet We are ready to fight
If there is reason l always said there
should pc no agreement to curtail or
reduce production of sugar or control
prices and there never will be as long
as / am iii the sugar business" Mr
4Arbuckle said he strongly suspected
that rebates were 10 be given by re-
finers to Wholesalers, but he said he
did not think railroads were involved
II knew II. O Havemeyer for 40
years he added HE had his good
and his bad qualities He played his
81. II 1;
that a MAI. who could make that kind
CT music was not as bad as people
thought him to be -
M. Arbuekle said that the Ameri-
can Sugar Refining Co. had the abil-
ity to, and always did. maintain the
price of sugar. Because of its capac-
ity 1T FIXES the MAXIMUM, prices and
the Independents fix the minimum
prices.
But the independents follow the
Americans prices do they not? ''
Yes"
Didn't time come when there was
an arrnistiee between you and the
Sugar Trust %
There was never an agreement or
arlnistice. There's likely to be an out
break any time"
But now long has it been since
there has been an outbreak, since YOU
last saw Havemeyer?"
oh, / really don't remember"
Mr.. Arbuckle would not say that
there had ever heen an agreement be-
tween him end Havemeyer.
Did you ever have an interview
with c. A. Spreckles, owner of The
Federal Refinery" asked Representa-
tive Madison.
Yes / wanted him to join in the |
trade laboratory | was establishing |
He would not, | think, because The |
American 20. was in it. | told MIN /
he was foolish that he was losing |
money ard there was no use biting his |
nose off te spite his face. We had all |
lost money by the system of sugar
polarization. That's all cur Inter
view was about "
Mr.. Madison said he read in the
minutes of tie American Sugar Re-
filming Co. entries showing that the
trust lost between 100000 and S.
000,0 900 to the Woelson Coffee Plant
at Toledo that the company charged
OF 100000 to profit and loss account
and the fight against ArbIckle cost
3I.'Ycu say there was no agreement
between yeue'' ne added
So the American is still going af- |
ter the trade the way ii used to-
Net so much as formerly. When
Havemeyer was alive he would not
stop at anything. He would use any
KIND OF weapon that he needed. He
cared for nothing"
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war modified after 1903 when the
American decided not 10 lose any
more money in the conduct of its cot.
fee .business?''
b. II was not so fierce afterwards.
Madison could not get Mr. Arbuekie
to say that there was a consultation
ar which an agreement was reached
He said positively there was no such
meeting or agreement.
1T was out of the nature of things ;"
said 9fr Arbuckle. Another thing
Haveneyor was afraid of the law He
never put his foot in it, He was afraid
OF agreements"
Mr.. Spreckels says YOU suggested to
. him. after meeting with Havemeyer
that ne should limit or reduce his OUT
pHt. He also said that you were re-
dllcing your output. Is that true?"
SpreckeIs used to tell me his
troubles with the American and I tried
to smooth them over. but l never ask
ed him to limit his output Lots of the
sugar men came TO me. but l always
told them Don't talk to me about linn
itine price or output. Remember the
Sherman law"
Who was it that talked to YOU
apogt these things?'
Il don't remember now. But | never
told Spreckels that | was reducing or
asked him To. OF course, eventually
everyone had TO reduce as the country
was oYeFstocked"
There has been no agreement" he
added hut l will admit that there has
come friendly feeling between u.s. II
is much better"
In saying good bye Mr. Arbuekle sadi
he was sorry for all the things he had
done 70 newspaper men. He said that
row ne liked them and would have en-
Joyed life better il he had treated them
better.
Meanwhile other members of the