Iowa state bystander. [volume] (Des Moines, Iowa) 1894-1916, 1911-04-28
SAYS HINES Boosted
NEW LoRIMER FUND WITNESS
TELLS OF LuMBERMAN's
PHONE Talk.
GOVERNORS ARE DRAWN IN
Names Of peneen and Yates Are Men
toned In Testimony-Tilden ana
TWO Bankers Ordered Arrested BY
Committee for Contempt

Springfield, lu.-HOW EuWaTo nineus
IN a conversation In the Grand Pacific
hotel at Chicago on May 1, 1909,
boasted that he had elected Senators
stephenson and Lorimer. was told be-
fore the Helm investigating commit
tee by w. II. Cook of Duluth, a stock
holder In the Hines Lumber company.
He said Henry Turkish, a lumber
man now In Oregon, was present at
this conversation. The witness said
Hines approached him and furnish
and said he was having a - OF a
time in Washington" He said:
There is Stephenson; we elected him.
and now he is working for free lum-
ber." He said furnish inquired about
the senatorial deadlock, and Hines an
swered:
ut is all fixed. Lorimer will be
elected. We had picked Boutell for
senator, but when the lumber schedule
came up he voted for free lumber.
took the matter up with Aldrich. and
we agreed we must have another man
we dSIGSu " tame ~ uP VIA A~SAA
mer, and 1t is all fixed"
Whom did Hines mean by Ste
phenson?"
II don't know" said Mr.. Cook, but
I thought he referred to Senator Ste
phenson Of Wisconsin"
The witness said he met Hines
again by arrangement Of C. F. Wiehe,
brother-in-law of Hines, or Isaac Ba.
ker. buyer for the Hines Lumber
company. He met Hines in the lobby
of the Grand Pacific hotel and went
to his room to hold long-distance
telephone conversation While there a
message came from Springfield for
Hines. Hines took the receiver, he
said. and said: us this you, governor?
Well, l just left Taft and Aldrich in
Washington. and they tell me under
no circumstances shall Hopkins be re-
turned to the senate. Now, I will be
down on the next train. Don't leave
anything undone l will have all the
money necessary"
Witness said he saw Wiehe about a
year later in Chicago, in May or June.
and had conversation with him and
William O'Brien, another lumberman.
in the Grand Pacific hotel at mid
night.
"Wiehe seemed anxious that we get
out of town." said Cook. "He said II
We did not we might be called before
grand jury which might investigate
the Lorimer case. He said Hines had
told him Lorimer had called him up
and told him we were in town and
for Gods sake to get us out.
"O'Brien said they were making it
hot for Hines. Wiehe said: Yes, they
will get him, too. He talks too much.
Every time reporter approaches him
he talks enough to fill two columns
Later talking about some business
matters" said the witness, "Hines and
j went down. As soon as we got out
Hines spoke to me of story about a
telephone conversation, and said they
got it all mixed up. He said they had
him talking to former Governor Yates,
whereas he said he was talking with
Governor Deneen. He said he didn't
want to betray the confidence of Taft
and Aldrich, for II he did he wouldn't
dare go back to Washington My i'm.
preston was that Hines was talking
with Deneen when he used the tele.
phone in my room in the Grand Pa.
cific, but Mr.. O'Brien, who was pres.
ent, insisted Hines was talking with
Yates" ...
Springfield, Ill.-After battling for
six hours as to the reasonableness of
the suspicion that Edward Tilden had
acted as the banker for the 100000
fund which elected Senator Lorlmer,
the Illinois senate voted 40 to Z to
arrest the millionaire for contempt
in refusing to produce before the
Helm committee his bank accounts
and papers bearing on the Lorimer
scandal.
George M Benedict, cashier of the
Drovers' National bank, and William
G.. Cummins, president of the Dro-
vers' Trust and Savings bank--two of
Tilden's bank which refused to pro.
duce his accounts-were cited and
win also be arrested.
It was agreed among the counsel
that the defendants shall be permitted
to institute habeas corpus proceedings
to determine the legal controversy
the courts. ....