Iditarod pioneer., 1911-11-18
BRONSON AND GORMAN HELD
 UNDER BONDS OF S25OOO EACH

anSWered that he had been nlnlnP tnlS summer; formerly he had been q bar tender and saloon man. His residence is at the Gilmore House, lditarod Witt ness arrived in Iditarod in May or June, 1910. Had known Bronson al Fairbanks in 1905. Did not know what Bronson was doing then, but after ward saw him driving a dray. First saw Bronson in the lditarod last fall. In talking to German in Fairbanks witness learned that he and German had each worked on the Gondia branch of the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Saut Ste Marie railroad in 1891. They had not known each other then. They be- came acquainted in Fairbanks in 1906 Last winter witness was on Granite creek and Bob Martin got Bronson to drive witness to Flat No intimacy ex- isled between them. Witness had never advised Bronson.
 Judge Stanton-Duriug last summer and fall you had trouble with French man in Iditarod, did you not?
 Mr. Roden objected. A long wrangle followed. Judge Stanton said he wanted to show that Chapman was an unwilling witness, and that the reIe- vancy of his course of questioning would develop later. The court per mittcd the question.
 Judge Stanton-Did you last summer or fall have trouble with another Frenchman and go to German for in- formation?
 Witness-No; 1 went to the proprie- tors wife.
 Judge Stanton-At that time did you not go to German for information?
 Winess-I went to both of them.
 Mr. Roden objected vehemently. Name the remarks" said lie, "stop dealing ia riddles"
 Judge Stanton-Iou went to German to find out what remarks had been made to Mrs, Peterson?
 Witness Went to both of them.
 Amid the constant and strenuous protests of Mr.. RJjen, Judge Stanton continued 10 ask questions regarding witness going to Gormtn to find out what sort of a fellow "ihe other French man. was, without much result.
 Asked if last winter he did not have certain mining interests in common with German, wines, said he was told German had sta&ed him in, just as others had done; witness is not now a co-owner with Gormln.
 Many more questions were put re gardinE the supposed intimacy between witness and G3rnan with no effect
 In answer to d question whether or not German had come to witness and told him he would hold up Ives SS Price witness said, "N), sir" "Hus he ever said so regarding other operators?" No, sir"
 Judge Slanton-Stato whether or not two weeks az you told Bob Mitchell German said he was going to hold up Price to Ives, and you tcld him not to sIo ii, he couldn't get off with il: and did you tell Mitchell if you had been in Fiat the day of the holdup you believed you could have stopped it?
 WiLnes5-I never told him that in that way no, sir
 The witness not appearing to answer the questions fully and freely. Judge Stanton told him, in case it became necessary, he would lay charge of perjury against him, and also a charge of accessory to the crime. Mr. Roden then told the witness to answer no questions and he would see him through, money or no money.
 Looked Like q kang arco.
 "Is this a kangaroo court" asked witness.
 Judge Stanton-Since September 1 has German told you that he was con- nected with the gold robbery?
 Witness-No.
 Witness could not say German had ever tried to tell him he was implicated in the robbery-did not remember that he ever did. Had seen Bronson in the door of the Northern Saloon, Iditarod; conversed with him. Bronson came out drunk and asked what kind Of a fellow Bob Mitchell was, and witness told him Bob was 8 hell-crachin' good fellow.
 Asked if Bronson said, If Mitchell belches up anything I will swear him and his friends into the penilentiary," witness said he had used words to that effect. Perhaps it was the next day when the witness was in the messenger office and saw Bronson, pretty drunk, go into the Northern. Bronson said, That stuff I told you about Bob still