The Richmond Virginian. (Richmond, Va.) 1910-1920, 1911-06-23
MAN OEFEAbEO BY
LOR|MEn ON STAND

tContinued from First PaGe.1
counsel for Lorirner was asked. and he
replied:
las recall there was no caucus.
Some of the Republican members at
tended what might have been called a
conference
Was Lorirner "A candidate before the
caHcus?" Hopkins was asked.
HE was not" replied the witness.
Hopkins related the general events
leading up 10 the final vote In favor
of Lorimer He said that during the
ninety FIVE ballots, he tHopkins), re-
ceiyed from sixty to ninety votes On
the next to last ballot Lorimer re-
ceived 10i votes and Hopkins n. Then
seven Hopkins men went over to Lori
mer giving him the required number
for election
Attorney Healy for the committee
asked Hopkins about the fatal bal
lot that elected Lorimer on May 20,
1908.
Il was surprised said Hopkins.
ITO see Senator Billings and Senator
Ettelson desert me for Lorimer."
Did you have any other sur
prisesH" asked Healy,
Yes. was greatly surprised 10
see fifty three Democrats vote for
Lorimer."
ernor neneen was your friend?" ask
ed Senator Johnston tDemocrat). OF
Alabama.
He professed to be- answered
Hopkins. and smiles Illuminated the
faces OF the committee.
Did anybody come TO you with In =
formation relating to corruption in
the senatorial contest" asked Healy.
Senator F.. A. Landee, Of Moline.
A friend OF mine. told me that a
Democratic member had said to him
that | could get ten emocratic votes
II would do the right thing" he an
swered.
What did you say to Landee %
II told him that / did not want
any Democratic votes; that was run
ming for the Senate. not for the peni-
Tertiary"
ibid you hear of any other cases
of undue influence being used with
Legislators?'' asked Healy.
Democrats Sold Out
We'll. there were the ffty-three
Democrats who sent over for a con-
sderation as everybody knows"
'Do you know that to be fact-"
mo. II was in the air.
Gould you indicate any person hav-
ing direct Information OF the winning
OF the fifty three Democrats to Lori
mer ?"
mo. When Lorimer was declared to
be a candidate. I was not concerned, as
I did not believe he had chance to
defeat me"
"Was Speaker Shurtleff. Republican.
opposed to YOU" asked Senator Ken
yon (Repn.l. of Iowa.
"He was" said Hopkins
How do You account for Shurtieff
getting so many Democratic votes for
speaker"
Ike had been speaker before and
had many friends among the Demo
Gratis"
ibid anybody suggest to you that
the election of Shurtlef had bearing
on the Senatorship?" asked Healy.
1T involved the senatorship to an
extent I understood that Lorimer sup
ported Shurtlen and Lorimer sought to
bring about my defeat"
Did not Try to Buy.
With regard to published story that
Hopkins friends proposed to pay ta,-
600 each for a number Of Democratic
votes Hopkins said 1t was absolutely
untrue.
Have you any reason to believe that
legislators who left you to vote for
Lorimer were swayed by corrupt in
fiuence?" asked Senator Jones.
Il ought not to be asked that ques-
ton. have no definite information.
When I was defeated l put the whole
thing behind me, because ! knew the
public had no interest In a man with
q grievance I only know what every
body knows about the change IN the
votes"
Can you give the name OF any per-
son who would be likely to have in
formation Of corrupt Influences II
there were any," asked Senator Gam
Bile (Repn), Of South Kadota.
i 7 cannot" answered Hopkins.
He said. In answer to a question,
that he had heard Of tho lack pot