The evening world., 1911-02-21

~ quay bIttlNbpr Nt'l hf Ftlt W.
had n conversation In my stateroOm
aboard n Pullman ! was in Albany
working against the Hart-Agnew avs
and was not on y train.
II never made any proposition Of
Any sort to Otto Foelhsr. never
offered him any money for his vote
or for anything else.
II never told him early Ia April hat |
would give him something conditional,y
upon the calling or an extra session by
the Governor. because at that time. the
regular session bcIng In progress. there
could ave been no suggestion IN my
mind that the Governor intended To- call
any Extra session.
mot . single word or act OF the
conversation described by roslker
ever took place"
.. D'd you ever talk oven with Foel-
ker about the racing bills2 A. Never.
Denies Msswelrs Story.
Q. Dld you about May Is. 1905. talk
with Thomas ] Maxwell NJ your Of
flee. and did you then tell him TO go
10 see Floyd Adams. clerk at tho
Adams street Court, and tell Adnmr
10 go up state and get Foelker's pledge
for your side? A | talked with Max
well. but his account of the CONVEX
Sation with me Is wrong. I did't tell
him that I had got the nomination for
Foclkcr. | didn't tell him TO tell Foel-
kcr would give him $40, 900 for his
vote. ~ that time 7 no longer had
any direct interest In or connection
with the race track fight. and I never
az any time had t25,000 or n other
sum to pay for votes"
=. Dad Maxwell return go SEQ o u
second and "a third time a. lie did not.
a. Did Maxwell tell you that Floyd
Ada ms would lie ticklcd 10 death to 60
IN to S~taatsburg and see Foclker'. a.
Never.
q. We'll. what did Maxwell tell YOU
A lie mo, me and said 10 mo that Floyd
Adams had told him that lie adams
had Foelkcr out OF town and that "
Foelkcr were properly approached his
vote could be- secured ] told Maxwell
that my connection with the night had
ceased with the end q; the regular SEES
sion, that I no longer hs. any Interest
In II, and that II he took my advice he
would drop the matter there.
Q. Had our connection with the
night ceased by May l5T a. Most as
suredly. | was not In Albany at all
during the special session ana took no
hand In the contest going on then.
His Visit to Elder.
flfhtf h'E'A NV N'AN N'"'N ~ A'' 4
Rober, II. Elder IN Brooklyn IN Feb
ruary OF last year"
Il went there with my lawyer, Mr..
Henry j. Goldsmith. md my present
wife tn wake a complaint against Jacob
EAiperin. my former law g%artner, A few
weeks later he tent for me to come 10
his office When I entered he said
Frank, there are several new COM
plants coming In against Eilperin.' III
said. How about my matter" lie said.
Never MIND about that. I'm working
now to get some Information about this
race track fight of two years ago at
Albany. and as YOU arc a friend OF mine
and were up there | am hoping you n
tell me some inside facts 7 said. Bob.
| worked on that fight mainly from the
publicity end of Il and | don't know
much about the inner workings He
said, Well. Frank, you are a friend OF
mine and anything you tell me will be
treated in sacred confidence and you
will be protected in every way ! said.
All right. go ahesd-there's no reason
why ] shouldn't talk Then he asked
me II ] heard that jim Gaffney handled
sl25 900 for the Tammany men in the
General Assembly. I told him I only
knew what I had read In the papers.
He said he had heard Foelker got
81, 900, and ! replied that It was rumored
that Foelker got $4,000.
That Delmonioo Dinner.
"He mentioned u dinner at Delmon-
lco's where money was said 10 have
Teen raised and named the men who
were reputed to be present. Again !
told him | only knew what the papers
were printing and nothing else. lie
said Well, how about the newspaper
mcn?-Georgc Tirrcll OF the Brooklyn
Eagle says the New York correspond
cnts got their shares ! said: Bob.
| don't know a th!ng about that mat
ter
Ills manner grew very earnest and
he said; Frank, the situation Is just
this. II | can lay before the Governor
Information which will lead him to or
der a legislative investigation OF the
race track matters either | will he ap-
'olnted az a Supreme Court Justice or
both parties in Kings County will he
forced to give me the nomination to
succeed Gaynor on the bench said
Bob, III like to help YOU. but YOU
seem to know a. much about these
matters as ! do. or more. can't help
vuu' and that, Mi, Stcuer. end, the
Conversation.
Makes cweeoing Denial.
- never told Elder that Their. had
beat the bills. I never told hin thar a
group " doctors had been in a scheme |
To dcclar, Foelker to he too ~ to NO
10 Albany to vote ut the eNtr, session.
| don't even know the doctors he has
named. d"n't thin, McCarrcns
name was mentioned at all either by
me or nv Elder