The Birmingham age-herald., 1911-06-30
W|TNESSES|N TIE LOR|MER HEARING MAY BE INDICTED Flat Contradictions Made By Hines Arouse the
 Committee
TAFT ASKED HIM TO
 EXERT INFLUENCE
Says He Doesn't Know Whether the President Wanted Lorimer Elect ed By Democratic Votes.
 Deaies Funk's StsSe

jury would grow out 50 Senate in
 vestlgation of the els of Senator
 Lorlmer was forthcoc 2 today during
 the examination of 70 ard Hines, the Chicago milionairro iberman. whose
 name is connected the alleged sl00,-
 GOO fund collected to .lect MT. Lorimer.
 MT. Hines fatly contradicted many state
 ments of previous witnesses and the sit
 uation aroused Senator Kenyon of Iowa. Now, there ought to be some prosecu- tions for perjury right here," he ex- l claimed. ''He did, not indicate whom he would have indicted, but his remark created a profound impression. | All day MT. Hines was the stand and his examination was not concluded
 when the committee adjourned until to-
 morrow. His first testimony that at- traoted deep interest was his detailed account of how he said President Taft, former Senator Aldrich and Senator Pen | rose had him exert his Influence to have MT Lorimer elected to the Senate. | At the afternoon session Senators Gam ble, Kenyon and Jones piled the witness with questions designed to show that he knew nothing directly of President Tafts attitude on the matter. The winess de- clared that at first he understood the administration was merely anxious for republican to be elected, but later 1t became convinced from some source that MT Lormer was the only one the fac- tions could unite upon and hence 1t fa- vored him.
 You didn't understand that President Taft and Senator Aldrich wanted to have | Mr Lorimer elected by democratic votes, did you?' inquired Senator Gamble. 'T don't know" replied the witness. 'Tha. question was not discussed" Did you think your message to Spring | field that President Taft and Senators Aldrioh and Penrose wanted Lorimer | elected would influence democrats?" in- | quired Senator Jones.
 NO; thought it was to influence Gov ernor Deneen''
 Denial of Hines Testimony | MT. Hines then denied, in its en- firety .i4r f-ssilOorH of Clare ce S
 Funk, general manager of the Inter- national Harvester company regard 1 ing the conversation the two men had
 at the Union League club in Chicago shortly after MT Lorimer's election. Mir Funk had testified that MT. Hines | asked hnG on that occasion for S10,- 900 contribution to a $100.000 Lorimer campaign fund MT. Hines testified that MT Funk asked for an introduc- tion to the new senator and for the privilege of contributing to his cleo | tion expenses
 MT. Hines added that when he men
 tioned the proposed introduction Mir Lorimer objected because he regarded MT. Funk as one of his active enemies. When the senator explained to Mir. Hines that he had no election expenses to defray, MT. Hines said he decided
 not to mention Mr. Funk's offer. Subsequently he said MT Funk ex- pressed disapp ointment over the out
 come of his conversation with MT. Hines, but continued very cordial Contradicts Cook
 Mir Hines denied he ever went to MT. Funk's office to refresh the lat ters memory as to the Union League | conversation. MT Funk testified that | there was such a visit
 MT. Hines also contradicted testi- mony given by Wirt H. Cook of Du- luth. Mihn. He denied having tele- phoned from MT Cooks room in Chicago hotel on May 26, 1909, that he would be down to Springfield on the next train with all the money needed in the Lorimer election. He de- nied also that he said in a converse tion with Mir. Cook and a Mir Parrish about May 1, 1909, that he had elected old Stephenson" or that the southern democrats in Congress would not stay pat on the lumber question. or tha' he had 1t all fixed to elect Lorimer to the Senate. It was after he had said that he believed he had not read Mir. | Cooks testimony about this conversa- tion before the Helm investigation com
 mittee at Springfield that Senator Ken | yon uttered his exclamation about
 prosecutions for perjury.
 | During the day Mir. Hines put into the
 record copies of all the telegrams which had been sent to him by Senator Lorimer since the latter's election with the eX- l reption of some which he declared he never received. With these he had in | serted a copy of a magazine article in which Mr Hines said 1t was claimed that the telegrams would throw light on the election The telegrams referred to tariff
 and river and harbor legislation, and con- tained no reference to the election. | He told the committee that all his personal checks and those of the com panIes with which he was connected were
 open 10 its inspection.
 Wife at Hearing In beginning his testimony MT. Hines said he was 47 years old.
 He told of his rise from office boy at
 SIG month to the day when he and others formed the Edward Hines Lumber company, in lS92
 None listened to his story more intent
 lv than his wife, who has been con- stant attendant at the hearings. | Mir Hines said he owned 6l or 62 per | cent of the Edward Hines company and 1 named banks of which he was either pres | ident ar director in which he was a stock | holder
 DO you drink or smoker suddenly asked Attorney Hines.
 i.J have never smoked I occasionally take n glass of beer and glass of wine, | but I don't drink any strong liquor" The witness added he drank wine at din- ner on his physicians advice. MT. Hines testified that he once lived in Senator i Lorimers congressional district, and had Nnown him for years. As an owner of 3)-
 odd boats on the great lakes MT. Hines said his company was very much inter ested in the success of the lakes-to-the- gulf deep waterway project, which Sen ator Lorimer advocated. He discussed the international Harvester company's inter- est in opposing the deepening of the Chicago river included in this project. The witness said he was well aware of the conflict between the harvester com
 pany and Senator lorimer and others on
 the river project. MT. Hines said his
 communication with MT. Lorimer regard
 ing the senatorship was a telegram he
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