The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1911-06-27


up and tried to terminate the conversa-
tion
"Nir. Hines told me-. just send the money
to Ed Tildcn. He talked rapidly, and
mentioned Mr.. Tilden's name before had
an opportunity to say anything to him
No other name was mentioned 10y him.
! asked him how much he was getting
from his different friends He replied
that il ten persons should contribute
SO, 900 each 1t would clean the u after up
did he ask you to keep the matter
secret?" asked Senator Lea
NO" replied Mr.. Funk.
81 was not surprised AZ Mr.. Hines's
request" continued Mr.. Funk. "because
Of my general impression OF him. l
considered 1t an impertinence. ! re-
garded him as a loose talker and some
what OF a boaster. He is man who acts
familiarly on short acquaintance. and he
would like TO have it appear that he was
a large factor in important Affairs"
"More the names Of Roger sullivan.
T.. y Conway. Mr.. Ncyerhachser or
dead man mentioned TO you by MIR.
Hines'" asked senator Lea.
NO" answere Mr.. Funk
what did he mean by having tho right
kind Of q man at Masht gton'p"
| Il am not sure what he meant, said MIR.
Funk. Il presume tha, he meant that
| Senator Iorimer was. in his opinion, the
right kind OF man to have IN wash
did Mr.. Hines tell you low the 100000
was apentr"
no" replied Mr.. Funk.
Mr.. Funk said he reported Mr.. Hines
conversation to Cyrus Mccormick. presi..
dent. and Edgar A. bancroft. general
MIR. Funk also told Of his conversation
with Herman II. Kohlsaat. editor and
publisher OF the Chicago Record Herald.
in which Mr.. Funk told him Of MIR Illness
request for the $4,000 contribution from
ne Harvester company Mr., tunk M utsn ss,a
conversation at the Union League Club.
MIR. Kohlsaat expressed desire that tho
matter be cleared up. and MIR. Funk said
that he gave the whole conversation be
tween Hines and himself TO Mr. kohlsaat
ia confidence. MIR. Funk said he remem-
bered giving Mr.. Illness name To Mr..
Kohlsaat, but he could not recollect nam
ing MIR. Tilden in his talk with MIR. Kohl
saat
Il do not recolect," said Mr.. Funk.
giving any name except that OF Mr.
Hines. although there was some specua-
tion on the subject
Did you give this information 10 Mr..
Kohlssa, willingly" asked MIR. Marble.
counsel for the committee.
NO" responded Mr. Funk mir. Kohl
saat pumped II out Of me,
| Later, Mr.. Funk testit0!. Mr.. Hines
came to his Office
"Mr Hines seemed to 10 agitatcd.
said Mr. Funk and undertook TO refrcsl,
my memory about the former conversa
tion at tho Union LEAGUE Club. He said
that he did not intend mo to understand
that he had said that money had been
used in Senator Tormer's election. He
sa id he had discussed with me the genera
stuat ion AZ Springfield. As far IA could
ascertain. there was no occasion for his
, visit to me did not agree with Mr.
Hines as to his version Of the former con-
yorsation told him | thought ] re-
membered the talk in its proper light
heard him. hut did not stop 10 controver'
i his version of the conversation as we
were having n directors meeting and they
were waiting for me-. MIR. Hines was in
nv Office for only a few minutes"
Did he have any other business with
you et that time?" the witness was asked
he did not mention anything else.
replied Mr., Funk,
Did he seem excited?" asked Senator
Fletcher.
Yes answered Mr.. Funk. -he seemed
aCitated."
/ This second conversation with Mr.
, Hines said Mr.. Funk. was few days
after the appearance Of the editorial ir
, the Chicago Record Herald which men.
toned for the first time the collection
Of the si0o.o0 fund. ] was very bus,
and did no, read this editorial on the da,
"
, secretary called rlv attention 10 thn ed
toria' and | read it | then understood
the reason for Mr.. Illness visit to my
office to refresh my memory as to oui
Union Ieacue Club conversation"
: Mr. Funk testified that the ethical side
Of the Oues tion ~ making Public The con
versation md giving IL to the inves eat
ing committee voluntarily had troubled
2 him considerably.
The Information came to me Ps 81
1 officer Of The company. said MIR Funk
duty as a citizen and INV duty toward th'
3 corporation by which ] am employed
Mr. Kohlsaat showed me letter fror
e Senator Root asking for III" name OF hi
source Of information used in the Record
Herald editorial told him thst ! be
lieved il TO he nv duty 70 protect tn
COMPANY and it's stockholders because n
r one would believe because OF NV corpora
1 tion affiation that I was actua'ed by hiRl
,, my information voluntarily. Mr.. Kohl
saat told me that he thought my reason
Y for not divulginr the facts were good
There was considerable bitterness il
o Illinois politics. and | felt thpt II ! CAV
, no this Information voluntarily IL woul
= he regarded by Senator Iorimer's friend
y as an attack upon him. did not want Z
y involve my company in the heated poit
: cal situation for business r"asons entrel,
n | knew that the board Of directors Of IN
= comppnv did not wish to become involve
! in political entanglements | had bee
impressed bv tho board Of directors tha
IS the business of the Company was III
manufacturing of harvesting machine
o and not mixing in politics.
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