The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1911-07-25
ARBUCKLE TELLSOF SUGAR WAR
Continued from FrS Page.

now. And the brokers we're the same
way. II ! was seen going into his Office
every man in the street said Something's
up!
Il remember one time when I went up
TO see Mr.. Havemeyer to try to eradicate
these evils. When you called upon him
you found an accomplished gentleman Of
refined tastes. When the door was opened
on this occasion / saw Mr.. Havemeyer
playing the violin in his library. ! asked
the maid not to disturb him and J sat
listening for half an hour. Then ! went
to him and | said. Mr.. Hevemeyer. you
can't be as bad a man ae they think you
are
He Was a different man uptown and
downtown. The story is told that he
hadn't friend below Forty second street,
but he had many above The only way
to deal with him in his Office was TO be as
arbitrary as he was. There was one
young man. I remember. sent to collect
Q bill of $3.50 ono for raw materials, He
had been there several times and finally
he reached the president. Mr.. Havemeyer
gave him an abrupt answer and this
young man said. You can go to hell, and
out he walked.
-On the way back to his Office he got
to thinking. What in the world have
done? I've told Hayemeyer to 60 to
hell. ! wonder what my jobs WORTH
But when he got back Mr.. Havemeyer
phoned TO the office. said TO send that
young man back with the bill He went
and found a check made out Can l
trust yon with this? asked Mr.. Havemeyer
You can trust me with all you re worth
said the young man. That was the only
way TO deal with MIN MIR. Arbuckle
| laughed little as he finished.
a time did come when there was an
a Al ~ "a n or
the Congressman.
Arbneke no. nS NO. s.re e0 apt ePeea % sat r ihe
market wide open sometimes and We
observed that it usually clarified the
atmosphere II might break OUT any
American finally raised its prices. and we
were glad TO follow. as were the others"
Representative Madison told Mr.. Ar
buckle that "a he saw il John Z. Parsons
was the father OF the sugar industry
Claus A. Spreckels was the disturber
buckle eaid he hadn't always been sue
cessful. He WAS told that The inference
drawn from part Of Mr.. Spreckels's testi-
mony was that the American had been
responsible for putting dead rats in the
barrels Of the Federal refinery. He was
asked whether he had ever experienced
this.
Mr.. Havemeyer wouldn't stoop to
do thing like that" aaid ne. from what
I know Of tho man. It's horrible 20 think
about" MIR. Arbuckle had always tried
TO smooth Mr.. Spreekels down when he
came with his grievances against the
American.
Representative Malby Of the House
committee which is investigating the
American Sugar Refining Company yes
terday asked Of Claude Augustus Spreck-
els. son Of the pioneer beet sugar man
a series OF questions which evidently
were intended to be embarrassing. The
! aim OF Congressman Malby apparently
was TO show that the independents. Of
whom Mr.. Spreckels has been the mos'
aggressive. used methods which were
similar to those they credited to the
Chairman Hardwick of the committed
was not pleased with the tack taken b,
Congressman Malby. az Mr.. Spreckel
had been more or less put on the defensive
Have you been unable to buy any
sugar from the Hawaiian planters'
Congressman Malby asked.
we have heen unable TO buy rount
Of it," the witness said. He eXplainec
that the Hawaiians were under contrac
with the American company. Mr.. Spreck
els admitted his company often sold suga
in Nonkers at price higher than in othe
, cities
rs it not tr,le.- asked Mr. Malby. -tha
the refineries in general take advantag
Of their position and do not sell materi
, ally lower in their own cities than tn
prices made by competitors elsewhere?"
That is the case said Mr.. Spreckels.
I Mr.. Spreckels said that about 20 pei
9 cent Of the sugar in his refinery cam
7 from Cuba. and Congressman MSlb
: wanted TO know if one of the reasons 70
n admitting sugar free from Hawaii. tn
Philippines. Cuba and Porto Rico was {
G reduce the price to the consumer.
Il do not know what was in the mind
. Of Congress" said Mr.. Spreckels.
Congressman Malbv brought out tina
o although the tariff had been remove
9 there had been no material difference !
q the price of sugar TO the consumer. MI
Spreckels tried to explain that when tn
tariff was lowered the trust began
ioperate.
= lam not asking anything about trusts
said Mr.. Malby. He insisted that tn
= tariff had nothing to do with the price {
= sugar. We will have to go into tn
'. question" he said, of whether there wa
u a trust or not"
g With free trade Mr. Spreckels said
9 was sure that sugar would be cheape
n and about sI5O.OOO.OO would be saved I
the people of the country. His compan
le didn't sell in certain Western States b'
p cause the freight rates were prohibtiy
!. and it couldn't be done at profit.
=, Congressman Malby seemed to thin
"a that even il the tariff was taken off ii
j. sugar refiners would add just so muc
:, to the price OF sugar and no one wou
W benefit. Mr.. Spreckels didn't believe il
with the tariff removed you could e.
"a tend your business" asked Mr.. Malby.
N We could" said the witness.
~ Then you would make more money"
"a We would"
~ And that is what you want to do
1I manufacture more sugar and make mo-
y money!" said the Congressman.
ID That is what we want to do said vi
Spreckels.
= Congressman Malhy figured that Il
saving for each person in the COUNT
u would be 40 cents a year under the col
.e dtions named by Mr., Spreckels. Six
- cents year for family of ten ga
n Mr.. Spreckels. Il am referring 70 thin
modern. not to our fathers families sa
10 Congressman Nlalby.
u Mr., Spreckels was confident that r
bates helped the formation Of trusts al
n built them up. Those two items and u
tariff" said Mr., Spreckels,
y But there are trusts all over the world
. said Congressman Kinds.
w. There are combinations, said n
- Spreckels, but they are not rigged
VI as our trusts are"
The committee will hold a session I
. day and then il is expected IL will retu
-, to Washington.