Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-07-16
] DEN|AL BY WILSON TAFT AND L0R|MER
President Seeks Facts Re-
garding Senator's Election.
TESTIMONY OF GOV. DENEEN
Illinois Executive Tells Of Secretary
MacVeagh's Conversation With
Him on Subject.

President Tafts administration was yes
terday brought into the Lorimer election
in a new way, when Gov. Deneen of
Illinois testified that as early as August.
1909. Secretary of the Treasury Mac
Veagh sent for him Ito ascertain for the
President matters regarding the election
Of Senator Lorimer." This was about
three months after Mr.. Lorlmer's cleo
ton.
Whether Secretary MacVeagh was pro-
ceeding on his own initiative or the Presi-
dent had actually suggested that he in
terview Gov. Deneen. was not revealed.
1t was not developed whether an extended
inquiry was being conducted by the adj
minitsration into the manner of Senator
Lorimer's election.
Gov Deneen mentioned the name OF
Secretary MacVeagh when he was asked
whom he had given his version of the
famous telephone conversation between
Edward Hines and himself on the day
Lorimer was elected. 1t was during this
conversation, so Hines testified, Deneen
promised to support Lorimer. This Gov
Deneen denied.
Gov. Deneen's Version.
Hines testified he said over the tele-
phone that he was on his way to Spring
field to bring Deneen a message from
Senator Aldrich and President Taft about
Lorimers election. Deneen testified Hines
said the President was sending him a
message through Aldrich, who would
have George Reynolds. president Of the
Continental National Bank. deliver 1t.
Gov. Deneen testified that when he re-
sponded to Secretary MacVeagh's re-
quest to call at the federal building in
Chicago Mr.. MacVeagh said he wanted
\
garding Senator Lorimer's election and
that he. Deneen. jokingly replied:
ASK the President he was the man
who is said to have sent the message
that did it."
Gov. Deneen added that in response to
further inquiry from the Secretary he
related the conversation between himself
and Hines.
THE conversation only lasted ten or
fifteen minutes, for the Secretary, after
1 had related my part in the election
said that he was astonished at the re-
ports" added Gov. Deneen.
That Telephone Conversation.
The afternoon session was practically
devoted to the Hines-Deneen telephone
conversation. 1t is regarded as having
an important bearing on the Lorimer
claim that Deneen favored Lorimers
election.
do you think Mr.. Hines might have
mentioned Mr.. Reynolds name for the
purposes of Identification" inquired Sen
ator Fletcher, referring to Hines testi-
mony.
NO" was the response. '1Mr. Reynolds
could not have identified Mr.. Hines, for
1 did not know Mr.. Reynolds very we'll"
Gov. Deneen declared that it was not
necessary for him to assist then, because
the contest had been won by Lorimer the
night before.
Attorney .Hanecy read an article In the
Chicago -&bune written by C. s. Ray
mond from Springfield May n. In this
reference was made to the report that a
telegram from President Taft, confirma-
tory of the telephone message, Influenced
Lorimer's election.
Mr. Raymond was not referring to Mr..
Hines telephone conversation to me, for
I didn't tell any one about that" said
Gov. Deneen.
Qualified as Guesser.
same paper, dated May II. written by
John Callan O'Loughlin, at Washington,
saying it was reported that conservative
senator's had sent well known business
man to Springfield in Lorimer's interest"
DO you think he referred to Mr..
Hines?
well. after being on the witness stand
for two and half days 1 ought to be
qualified as gueSser, SO l guess Mr..
Hines.
When the committee resumes it's hear
ings tomorrow the testimony will be re-
garding the activities Of Edward Hines in
the Lorimer election.