The Washington herald., 1911-10-17

went to Alexandria County in my auto
mobile and found five indictments against
this man. He had been fined several
hundred dollars and was a fugitive from
justice. 1 showed my findings to Mr..
Richards, but Richards replied that
Crandal Mackey, Commonwealth at
torney for Alexandria County, had said
the man is all right 1 said, Well,
he'll have to go back on the record,
then Then went to Mackey and got
his signed statement that Harper had
been indicted, but had fed the county,
and that the cases had been nolle press
ed because that was the only way to
get them off the books"
In answer to a question as to what
action Capt. Schneider, of the Seventh
precinct, took in regard to the case of
Harper, Horstmann said:
Capt. Schneider made a favorable re-
port. When learned of it Immediately
went to Maj. Sylvester and asked him,
DO you want a man like that in busi-
ness here" He sent for Schneider, and
in the presence of Mackey, Schneider
was asked to make a supplemental re-
port. The board was asked to wait for
that report, and the board did not do
it."
No Charges to Make.
Now, after having seen the Commits
sioners, after having seen the United
States attorney, having employed counsel
after obtaining the real estate record,
and having released the matter on the
floor of the House, want to know what
charge you have against Mr.. KaIbfus %
asked Attorney Hogan of Horstmann to-
ward the end of the hearing.
Il have no charges to make" replied
Horstnann. Il merely presented these
facts and brought about this investiga-
ton. 1 am now merely subpoenaed as a
witness in the investigation"
On direct examination, Assistant Cor
poration Counsel White asked Horst
mann:
! Did any of the Commissioners talk to
you about your duty?"
Yes Commissioner Johnston told me
1 had two oaths of office, and to go ahead
and do my duty"
ANY one else"
We'll. Commissioner Judson asked me
to find out what 1 could about a candi-
date for the position of superintendent of
insurance"
Did you and Commissioner Judson
talk over any excise matters?"
In a general way. He said there was
member of that board dealing heavily
Of it."
Tab on the Cops.
The witness said that Commissioner
Judson had asked him to keep an open
eye on the police.
Prodded by Mr.. Hogan as to why he
went to the Commissioners while he was
an employe on the excise board, witness
replied that he didn't have to go out of
his way; that he saw Maj. Judson or
Gen. Johnston every day or two "at
the club and sometimes talked excise
matters over with them.
Golf, excise, and District jobs figured
at this point. Asked why he went to
see Commissioner Rudolph, witness an
swered
"They're After Me-"
Il went to see Commissioner Rudolph,
and asked him in his office about a golf
game we were going to play. He said
then that he had a nice job for me in the
Office of the heath department. I said:
That means they're after me, doesn't
it.? He said, I'm afraid it does I said
then, Well, when they get me let's see
who is right"
The witness said he had employed coun-
sci when asked by the Commissioners to
put in writing any charges he had TO
make against Kalbfus or the excise
board. This was in last October. In jan
uary, witness said. he replied to the
Commissioners, also giving a copy of his
letter to Representative Bennett of New
York in order TO bring this matter to
the attention of the public
Questioned as to his methods of get
ting publicity in the matter, Mr.. Horst
mann said:
Il didn't give any papers to any news
paper man. 1 merely showed the pa
pers I afterward gave to Representative
Bennett"
oh" commented Mr.. Hogan.
The hearing will be resumed at 10
o'clock this morning.