The Richmond palladium and sun-telegram. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1907-1939, 1911-07-18
Isaac Baker, Friend of Hines,
Denies Latter Told Gov.
Deneen He Would Use
Money to Help Lorimer.
ISN'T CERTAIN WHO
HINES TALKED WITH
Does Not Remember Much
About Hines Talk with
Funk Relative to Contribu-
ton to a Lorimer Fund.
sNationa, News Association)


Washington. July 1s.-Donald
Frame. clerk at the cigar stand. Tn
ion League club. Chicago. testified b.
fore the Lorimer senate investigating
committee today that he heard Ed
ward Hines say he had elected Lor-
inner" This corroborated the state
ment of H. H. Hettler on the stand
yesterday. Frame said Hettler was
buying some cigars on May 26. 1910.
when Hines came out of the telephone
booth and accosted him with the
above words in boastful tones which
made a lasting impression on his
mind. although the i've minutes con-
versation could not be recalled.
Isaac Baker. buyer for the Hines
Lumber Company. testified concern
ing the alleged telephone conversation
between Hines and Governor Deneen
at Springfield. Baker denied that
Hines mentioned money and from ma
ture of the conversation believed the
man at the other end OF the wire was
not Deneen.
Baker said on Friday before Lori
mer was elected he was in Washing
ton with Hines talking with Senator
Stephenson. of Wisconsin. in regard
to 100000 lumber deal. He went
back to Chicago with Hines, reaching
Chicago on the morning Of May 26. the
day Lorimer was elected Hines told
him on the train he was going on to
Springfield. At the station In Chicago
g. F. Wiehe met them and told Hines
not to 60 to Springfield until he had
talked with Lorimer over the tele-
phone. Later in the day Baker said
he went to the Grand Pacific hotel in
Chicago to meet Messrs. Cook and
O'Brien to talk buisenss. He summon
ed Hines to the hotel to discuss the
matter 1t was on this occasion. Wit.
ness Cook had testified that Hines
talked to Deneen and 10 alleged to
have said that he would come down
to Springfield. with all the money nee
essary to elect Lorimer"
Describes Incident.
Describing this incident Baker said
that while they were in Cooks room
at the hotel the telephone bell rang
and Cook answered. It was q call for
Hines. The witness heard Hines say:
Il have talked to the Governor and he
will see you" Then there was pause
Again Hines said "Now you under.
stand how the administration feels
about it. Don't let a stone be unturn-
ed to get him elected" then q pause
and again Hines spoke, III necessary
will come down to Springfield tomor-
row on the train"
Did you hear Hines call Hello Gov
ernor' or Hello Governor Deneen?"
asked Judge Haynes.
"No SIR" replied the witness.
did you hear him say he would be
down with all the money needed?"
''No SIR
Did you hear anything said abou
money!"
mo sir"
Referring to the Union League club
incident when Hines IL alleged to have
solicited contribution of $4,000 to
the Lerimer election fund from Clar-
ence s. Funk. general manager of the
international Harvester company, Ba-
ker said he was present at the con-
versation. It was the day following
the election of Lorimer. Afterwards
Baker acknowledged. that he did not
hear all OF the conversation between
Funk and Hines AZ they walked away
from where he sat on q sofa with an
other lumber dealer. named Carney.