The Telegraph-courier. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1888-1946, 1911-10-05
STILL DISCUSSING PROBLEM
Chicago Engineer Admits that He Can
Plan New Form of Outlet if the
City Desires to Spend More Money
to Complete It.

The members of the city council
gathered with interested citizens at
the city hall on Tuesday evening for
a sewer outlet symposium with John
W. AIvord, consulting engineer of Chi
cago, as the leader in the discussion.
Engineer Alvord designed the outlet
for the trunk sewer and after going
carefully over the ground he declared
that the outlet as planned was one of
the best forms of construction that
could be devised if the engineer was
to take into consideration the hand
ling of the water at the various stages
that must necessarily be found in the
sewer and at the same time the mat
ter of building the sewer with econo-
my MIR. Alvord admitted that there
were objections co the outlet to every
sewer, but he held that the outlet as
planned for the Kenosha sewer would
not be offensive to any one even though
it might not be a thing of beauty. He
declared that there was no danger of
the outlet as planned becoming a pub
lie nuisance and asserted that under
any conditions the outlet would prove
great improvement over the outlet of
Jerome creek as it had stood for years.
The council took no final action in
the matter, but with view Of having
all people satisfied Mr.. Alyord was in.
vited to remain in the city this morn
ing and during the morning confer.
ence was held at which the city, John
M. Kehlor, the contractors and all
others interested was held with view
of reaching some plan that would be
satisfactory to all. The results of this
conference will be laid before the
council at special meeting later in
the day ard it is probable that the
council will then take some definite ac-
ton which will permit TIE work to GO
forward without further interruption.
Engineer Alvord declared that the
art of the engineer was not only to
solve problems of engineering, but al
so to solve the problems of economy.
He stated that there would be many
ways to dispose of the waters of the
sewer by carrying them into the lake,
but that extensions of the main sewer
into the lake would be costly and that
in designing the outlet he had sought
to get as far from the heavy expenses
as possible. lie admitted that it was
perfectly feasible to carry the sewer
on out into the lake distance of 200
or even 500 feet, but he insisted that
the cost of properly protecting such
work would be very large.
"When yol get away from the shore
of the lake and out into the waters"
said Mr.. Alvord, "the cost of the
building will increase very rapidly. 1t
does not take long to bury twenty-five
thousand dollars in Lake Michigan and
we planned this outlet with all the
work near the shore line with view
of making the construction just as
economical for the city as possible. !"
The recent opinion of Engineer Wis
ner of Chicago, in regard to the outlet,
was read by Mr.. Alvord and he stated
that he could not find any great fault
with this opinion with the exception
that Mr.. Wisner had paid no attention
to the question of the economy of con-
struction.
The question of the suficieney of the
outlet was discussed from many stand,
points and Mr.. Alvord met every OBJ
lection. He held that of course it
might cost the city something for the
maintenance of the outlet, keeping it
free from ice in the winter, but he in
sisted that any outlet to che sewer
would demand some expenditure. The
sewer contractors and their engineers
and attorney, c. D. Barnes, who repre-
sented Mr.. Kehlor, joined in the dis
cussion of the question and while at
times the discussion became highly
technical, the engineers managed to
show just what was meant and brought
the whole question to the council in
new light.
It Is probable that some final deci-
sion win be reached by the engineers
and sent to the council 80 that the
work can still be completed this year.
Police officer Emil Clausen has return
ed home after spending his vacation
in Chicago.