New-York tribune., 1911-01-11
B. R. 7. MAKES THIRD
SUBWAY PROPOSITION
President Winters Route Would
Extend from North River to
Atlantic Ocean.
MANY BROOKLYN FEEDERS
Canal Street Subway to Manhat-
tan Bridge and Subway Join
ing Brighton Beach and 4th
Ave. Lines Suggested.

provided yesterday the third horn OF the
subway dilemma by proposing to the
Public Service Commission subway
system extending from the North River
~ the Atlantic ocean. Included in this
was an offer 10 operate the Fourth ave-
nue. subway. now under construction, an
offer foreshadowod by The Tribune in its
issue of December II
At that recent day President Winter
of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Com
pany was quoted as calling the Fourth
averue subway a rapid transit abor-
lion" BY connecting ii with the Cul-
yer. Sea Beach. West End and Third
avenue elevated lines extending below
seth street. Brooklyn, he would make 1t
,Ae trunk line of a system tapping the
entire region between Flatbush and New
York Bay.
Tho second part OF his proposition
which must be accepted with the hrst'
,r,yidcs for a four-track subway con-
,l,tiop between the Fourth avenue sub
way and the brighton Beach elevated
lr, and a two-track subway under
canal street. in Manhattan, from the
Manhattan Bridge to the North River
hofh to bc built 10y the city
TIC BROOKLYN connection would tap
~, 1,,,rth avenue subway where it
,ea,cr Flatbush avenue and eXtend
under Flatbush avenue to the Prospect
p,rt. station Of the Brighton Beach line
.rr. ..mrany agreed to add two tracks
+, this line between Prospect Park and
on,.r,l avenue. and between Sheepshead
Ra, and the Culver terminal in Coney
Island. thus making a four-track ex-
r,asg route from the Manhattan Bridge
% She ocean.
The company is going to elevate Its
Brighton Beach tracks I'm Coney ISL
and where at present they run along
the surface, and in yesterdays PROPOSE
tion II proposed TO elevate the West End
culver and Sea Beach lines all the way
70 Coney Island. sharing the expense OF
abolishing grade crossings with the city
!, Furthermore agreed TO extend the
Third avenue line to Fort Hamilton.
\ fve-cent fare, it was proposed
should obtain over the entire system
with the exception that the fare TO or
from the Coney Island district be 10
..nts. This latter fare the city might
reduce 10 five cents, however according
10 the proposed agreement IN case
agreed TO meet a resultant deficit.
3. r. Us Financial Offer.
For the Fourth avenue subway line
and it's connections, excluding the line
across Manhattan and the connection
with the Brighton Beach line. Mr.. WIN
ter has offered thc city the following
financial arrangement:
Tl. gross earnings OF the Fourth avenue
SUBWAY ana the CONNECTING NHtS ~
Is5nra described. including as part OF SuCli
connecting lines the Third avenue cleNdleu
him. -uutu OF it's intersection Nllh Ile SUI
van. -HaI be asceItained from me tchels
deposited or taken no AT jhe SlalIoH' ts'y,i HpO,,
said subway and connecting ines. LOli,
,.. -.n.. earnings thus ascertained shall
10 deducted.
I AI station expenses. - 60.
D. Maintenance OF way ana StI Slu'e' III
,fldIuc .n allowance for depreciation. 49,
Maintenance of equipment, lhciuuIns
ran allowance for depreciation.
I.suagc for accidents. -,
o.. Il.f.r expense and cost Oh CoiluuC'iHs
TRANSPORTATION, including power.
o. General and administration expenses
,sisr ID 'nsyment OF the foregoing
charge. shall 'be deducted the actual an
uuaI charges Of the company ior carrying
TIE cost o. equipment ana providing par
raI sinking fund of tAree-Quarters OF per
cent per aunum to meet Obsolescence.
From the balance Of the income then re-
maining shall te raid IN order named
Rental FOR the leased line Of the Pros
rect Park * tOneN Island kalHodu OoIi-
. interest Al the rate Of per cent per
aupr.rn upon the present value OF the afore-
sad elevated and steam railroad connect
,,,. limos 1ess Tho sum Of $500 per annum
required a. rental 10 he paid TO the Pros-
net PARK < Couev Island Railroad Com
Iantl and IN addition. such interest as the
compauy may have TO pay on the expense
incurred and assumed oy II In the extension
Of the Third avenue elevated 10 Fort
d milton. and In the elevation or It's steam
railroad lines and the connection thereot
with the subway. and on the cost OF addi-
tions TO and improvements on or in con-
Y-ctiou with such connecting lines from
time To time as the same may be neces-
eary or expadient plus a reservation for
sinking fund Of ! per cent per annum Of all
such expenses
per aunum upon bonds issued by the. city
20 defray the cost Of construction OF the
Fourth avenue subway.
If for Public Convenience.
II Co- public convenience all or any por-
tion of any Of the lines Gncluding the
Fourth avenue subway hpe) comprised in
this proposal shall be used as part or
parts oi a route or routes coVerlhs olher
fines than those hercinabOve specified then
an equitable allowance for such operation
shall be made i'm the said accounting with
n tIS income shall hc insufficient 10 meet
the foregoing charges, or any part thereof,
down 10 and including subdivision . above,
the deficit shall be- assumed by the com
paur. bat il the income shall be lnsuiil-
siou. after providing for All said proceed
iu. charges To- pay the charges described
On subdivision 10 above. then thc cliN ~Ja'i
assume and pay such charges or any cen
cicnCy thereof lu case. however any such
deficit herein assumed by the company Sllall
BE- due 90 reduction in the rate ~ lale
hgCIuaDovc provided Tor. then such dehclt
shall le borne by the city and tie amount
thereof shall re repaid bN the citt 20 ihe
COMPANY
The net profits remaining after providing
FOR tla fOrcg0.ng charges snail be equally
divided between tie city and the company.
lu regard 90 proposal No. - which
Includes thc construction log the city OF
tho Manhattan and Brighton Beach con
nectioas the following fn"ncial division
Is contemplated:
Tile company &iH. under "a lease for The
!NdtNTHW tenn fNatI itHeN al-t aut 'il.'d
Wy .Al-lHE law. equip oIi IldshA.l III 1'N
subw8y~ ncre naIoge described a. bc con-
sifucted by the city. and viii operate tie
tolNo a~ a part of H through route eNtchu-
iIs from the Atlantic ocean TO the North
l4Nr. SAID roJtC consisting oi the 3rlGh-
ton Eeach Inc Of the Brooklyn Union lIlc-
Ndted Railroad Company IRON the = ,lAntlc
'ttan 10 tlatbush avenue. thc iouT-tFdck
sUbway 10 he constructed by the city on
flatOCsh avenue. the Fourth avenue sub
way U anG across the Manhattan Bridge.
and tic subway 10 be constructed bv the
Cit ncrOss Manhattan Island upon the