New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1911-07-14
What Hines Testified To.

Hines had testified that he telephoned
from Chicago to Deneen that he had just
come In this morning from Washington.
and am on my way 10 Springfield 10
bring the message 10 YOU from Senator
Aldrich and the President, urging upon
you 70 do all you possibly can to assist IN
the election OF Senator at the earliest
possible moment" and that they unner-
stood that Lorimer could be elected il you
will assist" Hines also testified that ne
understood Deneen 10 say he would assist
in Lorimer's election and would see Lori-
mer in ten minutes.
Governor Deneen said Hines asked him
II he received q report from the President
in reference 10 Lorimer He said Mr.. Taft
! had sent message 10 support Lornier
Il asked him" continued Governor De-
neen, IF he had the message. and he an.
sWered No He said that .he President
had sent It, and that he had intended TO
come 70 Springfield himself, but had missed
the train BY five minutes.
II asked him IT, the President sent that
message for I thought il str1aye Tor the
President 10 tell NE that IL said why,
he sent It through Senator Aldrich-of
course. he would not send it 70 YOU direct
ly-who would communicate to YOU through
George II. Reynolds, of the Continental
Bank l said. Very we'll"
Did you receive 2 communication from
Senator Aldrich or 1tr. Reynods?" asked
J. J. Heaiy, attorney for the committee.
NO. sir"
Governor Denesn denied Illness version
o. the conversation in regard 70 the iden-
tity of Hines On this occasion. and added
that he was not certain that it vas Hines
talking, but regarded the talk as he would
an anonymous communication.
Did you tell Mr.. Hines that you would
assist Mr.. Lorimsr?" asked Mr. HsaIy.
Il did not"
Did you tell him YOU would see Lori
mer?'
7 did not"
Governor Deneen SAID he had talked With
President Taft later about the incident, but
declined 10 give the conversation unless the
President was to be called az 3 witrcss.
Denies Aiding lornner.
In denying that he az any time assisted
in Lorimers election Governor DSneen ties.
titled that the night before the election he
had attended & conference in which h.
tried 10 hold members i'm line for Hopkins.
After the election he told Of Senator Lori
mer coming 10 him and asking that he
wipe off the slate" IN the interest Of Re
publican harmony in the state. lie swore
that Senator Lorimer said he Intended TO
zee Mr.. Hinman, OF The Chicago Inter.
Ocean" and Speaker Shurtlelf of the ILL.,
nois House and have them agree 10 har-
mony also.
Governor Deneen testified that Senator
I.orilner said they" were not able 10 sup
port Hopkins. and later Lorimer urged
Deneen 10 take the Senstorship
"l)id he suggest you could get Democratic
support"
Veg, told Lorlmer ] could not throw
down the primary law under which Hopkins
had been rejected for the Senatorial candi-
date cf the party, even though Hopkins
men were drhtine me. He told me could
get some Republican votes and AL the
Democratic votes.
Senator Kenyon asked II IT did not sur
prise him when Lorimer made this sug-
gestiou. The Governor said he thought
Iorimcr wanted 10 get rid Of him in Illinois
po!ticF
Il di!a't know then whether would he
Governor or Senator. either" no added i
said to Lorimer that was anxious FOR them
10 put me ont Of tho governorship. 7 told
him the election OF ShurtleN showed lie
had The votes. so ! said: Hurry up and 30
through the motions. Put me out I tolo
him that II he put me Out would bc the
leader Of the party
Did you thinl: the interests that had