The Washington times., 1911-07-24
HINES ADMITSHE
CALLED ONLOVETT
Not Sure he Discussed Lorimer Case With Railway
Head, However-Boutell Letter Indicates Taft
Favored Illinois Senator.
By JUDSoN c. wELLIvER.

/ onected that all telegrams sent by him
curing that time be produced. Judge
nancy protested strongly against thus
demanding an exposure Of all Hines
personal affairs, saying 1t was a most
extraordinary proceeding, one never
followed In a court.
Then came a ruction between the law
yers on the opposing sides. Judge Han
ecy said that his side had produced a
number Of kilograms which were not
offered In evidence. These were used
in cross-examining some witnesses, and
were in possession of the lawyers or
the clerk for the committee. The law
yers for the committee, he said, had to-
day refused Mr.. Hines access to them
and against this course Judge Hanecy
bitterly complained.
Nothing Wrong Done.
The lawyers for the committee Just
as bitterly denied that they had done
anything Of the sort The committee,
after hearing their troubles, held that
nothing wrong had been done.
Cross-examining Hines about the visit
of Boutell to Taft, and BouteIl's claim
that he was the man who got the Presi-
dent to support Lorimer. Senator Kern
wanted to know:
"Boutell and you understood that Lor-
inner was probably the only man who
could be elected?"
Yes"
Was it your understanding that he
was to be elected by a majority Of DEM
votesT'
II didn't know anything about that"
Did Boutell tell You that he had told
Tart that Lortmer could be elected by
IoTnnRro n
NO. he didn't"
Visit to Lovett.
Another important reference to the
Presidents name was brought into the
testimony. In January Of 1911, Hines
said. he called on Judge r. s. Lovett,
president of the Union Pacific Railroad,
in New York.
Did you talk with him about Lori
mer7'
We'll. 1 may have, it is possible that
] did; II so, II was very briefly and
with him was other than that"
Hines also said he visited officers of
the national organization of lumber
he explained that his business with
them was to assure them of the falsity
Of certain charges that were then be-
Ing made about the activities of lum-
Der interests in connection with the
Lorimer affair.
Did you ask Judge Lovett to use
his influence for Lorimer%' asked Sen
ator Kenyon.
mo, sir
Was the subject brought up?'
Il don't recollect-it may have been"
Now about your calling on Senators
and talking about them in the Lorimer
rase. You mentioned two Senators IN
your testimony the other day. What !
other Senators did you call on and |
talk with about the case?'
Called on Senators.
We'll, called on some about the |
Lorimer case and some about reciproc-
ty."
Il called on Senator Borah, and talk |
ed about the merits of the Lorimer |
case" he continued.
did you threaten any Senator with |
what you would do if he didn't vote for
Lorimer?'
20, no.
No Senator?'
No none"
Did you caaIl on any other Senators
about Lorimer?"
Il remember calling on Senator Gull
lom. No. do not consider that was
active In behalf of Lorimer. l was in
terested particularly in disproving the
charges about the National lumber in
terests having anything to do with IT."
While this talk was going on Senator
Kern was paving over the heap of
kilograms about which the lawyers
had been quarreling. Suddenly he
struck pay dirt. Sitting up bolt
straight. he suddenly demanded:
Here's a telegram to you from Lynn
Fl. Dickens, of New Orleans. Who's
her"
Hes a banker there"
THE telegram says:
New Orleans, March 10, 1911. Do
you desire support Mississippi in reci-
procity or Illinois matter
What does that telegram meanT' de-
Senator eKrn.
''Why, perhaps he didn't understand
4 circular we had sent out about reci-