Arizona republican., 1911-06-25
THE CHICAGO EDITOR
Roughly Handled by the Counsel for the Accused Senator-Under Pledge of Secrecy He Told Every body of Funk's Statement

Washington, n. C., June 24-Many figures of national prominence were brought into the Lorimer investigation today for the first time, when Herman w. Kolhsaat. editor and publisher of the Chicago Record Herald testified before the senate committee inVestigat- ing the election of Senator Lorimer.
 Former President RoOsevelt's name was linked with the investigation when KohlSaat testified that last August he told Colonel Roosevelt the entire story Of the alleged attempt of Edward Hines to collect Sl0.0O0 from Clarence S. Funk general manager of the Inter national Harvester company. to reim- purse those who had contributed sl00,- GOO. ito put Lorimer across at Spring field"
 The ban of secrecy was placed on the former president but KOhlsaat tes- tified Colonel Roosevelt wrote him that he declined because of Mir. Kohl saat's information. to attend the Ham, ilton club dinner in Chicago in August 1910, if Lorimer was to be there. The Roosevelt letter will be placed in the record of the hearing.
 ne names or SeIlaIoIS fiOOl, Lar bl- lette and Cullom were mentioned in a new light. Kohlsaat testified that he had informed these senators before the senate passed on the Lorimer case of the conversation in which Funk had told him of Mines alleged attempt to collect money. To these men kohlsaat did not mention names because he con sidered himself under a pledge of sec recy to Funk not to do so. KOhlsaat mentioned Senator Culloms name only at the close of the days session.
 Former Speaker Cannon and former Representative Tawney of Minnesota figured in the days testimony. Judge Hanecy. counsel for Loriner asked the witness if Senator Lorimer in 1903 did not drop legal suit against Kohlsaat because Cannon and Tawney told him it was feared that if such were not done, the Chicago Record Herald would not support Roosevelt for presi- dent in 1904.
 That is so ridiculous that no an- swer is needed to it." declared Kohl Saat He also denied the suit was dropped because it vas made a condition of Governor Deneen do- ing a favor to a young man in trouble" who was Lorimer's friend He was asked if he did not tell the Funk story to every newspaper in Chi cago. The witness said that he could not remember if he had, although he had spoken Of it without mentioning names to several people. He was asked if he had not given it to eve-y maga- zine that was friendly to him. MT Kohlsaat denied that he had done so.
 Didn't you give it to one of the edi- tors of the Outlook" asked Judge Hanecy.
 No, sir"
 Didn't you give it to Theodore Roosevelt?"
 "Oh, yes"
 He was asked if he had not told Chicago detective who came to his of flee to see if he had any work that the newspapers Of the country had or ganized to fight Lorimer
 Perfectly absurd" declared the wit ness
 He was asked if he did not refuse to give the name of his informant Funk) when first called before the Helm in- vestigating committee tt Springfield because he wanted to appear as a sort of martyr. The witness strengthened up. looked at Judge Hanecy and said:
 ''If there were no ladies present" and then. as he sat back into his chair he added T would quote one of Eu- gene Fields poems to you.
 Suppose you answer the question first suggested Judge Hanecy
 No, sir. I was not playing to the galleries
 Judge Hanecy asked the witness if he did not think it was an unjustifiable thing to take information secretly to senators who were to judge Senator Lorimer without giving the state of Illinois. Lorimer or his family 2 chance 10 defend themselves against serious charges He said he did not
 Several times during the invesjrga- tion MT Kohlsaat declared that he ab- sOlutely believed what Mir Funk told him. Another striking feature of his testimony was repeated statements that he found much to admire in Senator Lorimer's private life. He referred to the senator's life as ideal.
 What I have been fighting for twenty years is Lorimerism." he de- clared. LOrimerism he defined as An affiliation and cooperation and cohe- sion of democrats and republicans for party pelf and for private pelf."