Omaha daily bee. (Omaha [Neb.]) 187?-1922, 1911-07-01
OTHER TESTIMONY
Comes Out in Statement Against that
of H. H. Hettler.
SAYS LUMBER NOT INTERESTED
Declares Interest Did Not Raise Fund
for Tariff Fight.
CERTAIN WHAT ALDR1cH SAID
He Also Says that Lumber Interests
Had Nothing to Do with Elect
ina Illinois Senator Reit-
crates Taft Story.

WASHINGTON. June 30.-Edward Hines
of Chicago was subjected today to rigid
cross-examination by John II. Marble, at
torney for the senate investigating com
mittee.
Mr.. Hines contradicted sworn testimony
by President Herman II. Hettler of the
Hettler Lumber company of Chicago. that
Hines had boasted to him of having person
ally elected Lorimer. He denied that the
lumber interests raised a big sum to lobby
I for tariff legislation In 1909 or that the
lumber interests had anything to do with
the Lorimer election.
Mr.. Hines declared that he was ''abso-
lutely certain" he was not mistaken about
his testimony that former Senator Aldrich
stated to him the president was anxious
to have Lorimer elected Asked about a
denial of this from the White House after
his testimony at Springfield, Mr.. Hines
said that such a denial has never been
"called to his attention"
The White House statement in question,
| copies OF which we're reissued last night,
concluded as follows:
THE statement by Mr.. Hines that the
president was anxious for and was urging
the election of Mr.. Lorimer is wholly un-
founded"
Hines Resumes Testimony.
with his pockets bulging with documents
Edward Hines, the millionaire Chicago lum-
herman who is charged with having ex-
pressed knowledge OF az Lorimer election
fund, today resumed the witness stand be-
fore the senate committee investigating the
election OF Senator Lorimer.
Mr. Hines counsel sought to show that
Mr.. Hines was not in Chicago last Feb
ruary about the time Clarence 8. Funk,
general manager of the International Har-
vester company. claims Mr.. Hines called
upon him to refresh his memory in regard
to the famous Union League club CONVEX
sation in which Mr.. Funk testified Mr.
Hines asked him to contribute $4,000 to
reimburse a 100000 Lorimer election fund.
, Bills for service rendered him at Wash.
ingtoa hotel for the months preceding
Mar sh 4 were presented. The first bill was
: fo' five days. the bill amounting to 1855 So
"Better read the items" suggested Sen
ator Kern. The largest item was t2b|
4 cash. Another bill was for more than 500
The witness produced a plat Of the Chi
cago river. over the treatment Of which
there is said to have been q controversy
between the International, Harvester com
). pany. on one side, and Senator Lorlmer
Mr.. Hines ,and others on the other side.
i
Senator Lorimer was elected he (IIines)
was at the Union League club at Chicago
telephoning the Associated Press there tC
ascertain the result OF the balloting Al
) Springfield. The witness could not de-
: ftnitely fix the hour. saying 1t was between
D 1:S0 and p. He said he was told thai
the voting was on at Springfield, that Mr.
Isorimer had l0S votes and a moment latel
: the Associated Press informed him tha
. Senator Lorimer was elected.
Didn't you consider the election was tn,
{ result Of your effortsP' asked Attorne,
Q Marble.
"No. / considered that was a mer,
> message bearer and never did know wha
the effect Of that message was"
VI Contraaacts Hettler.
n Mr. Hites> denied the testimony Of Her
a man H. Aettles OF Chicago, con [tiiG
a lumber mSn. At the Helm hearing al
Springfield \Hettler testified that Mr.. Hines
4 said of the new senator, Mr.. Lorimer: :
a elected him; did it myself, personally"
q Mr.. Hines testified that he merely tol(
Hettler he had been talking to the Associ
+ ated Press and understood Lorimer haC
n been elected senator. .-
e Mr.. Hines said he and Mr.. Hettler. ka,
o never been friends. He explained that hi
e company got the trade Of the PennsyIvanii
l. Railroad company away from the Hettle
n concern.
d did you use any language which Nigh
{. have been honestly iy'interpreted as electe
It him, / did It myself. personallvT"
N mo. sir: on the contrary. It was not a
r honest mistakel Practically all that wa
Is said was that Lorimer had been eIecte
l. and that was very happy over IT,"
= Don't you think YOU have heen rathe
unfavorapIe as to the choice of gentleme
d to whom you talk, as shown by the tsit
"A mony7"
70 Il don't think have been from wha
IA has been said here"
" Mr.. Hines said he did not know no,
ra much money the lumber interests raise
: for the expenses OF committee In Wash
ington during the tariff legislation Q
1900. which was about the time Mr.. Lorirne
was elected He admitted that he Nigh
n have known the amount expended abou
y the time he was asked to contribute
the deficiency. He was willing to max