Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-07-20

answer later Later In the DAY toIu
him Mr.. Lorimers candidacy would not
be Objectionable TO the President
'Then," continued Mr.. Aldrich, Mr..
Hines asked me IL l would say that 10
any one who inquired of me- told MN
that I would say that Mr. Lorimer
candidacy was not Objectionable to the
President l said that the President oc-
cupied the same position that he had
that he didn't intend to take any part III
the election. and that Mr.. Lorimers re-
publicanism was satisfactory to the
Gould this conversation have taken
place as late as May "a! asked MI
II do not know; It was just before the
election. I remember Mr.. Hines sad ne
was very anxious to have the Information.
because he was leaving 1of ILLINOIS Sooh'
in a day or So
He was asked about Mr.. Hines testi-
mony that Mr. Aldrich said Lorimer was
the only man who could be elected
Not Posted on Situation.
"I cou,d not have said that" replied
Mr.. AIdrich. because 1 knew nothing
about the Illinois situation"
He had no recollection OF Hines COM
ing TO the Senate office building to see
Aldrich in regard to Lorimers candidacy
nor of asking Hines to go to the White
House with him. nor of taking Hines to
his house to wait until he saw the Presi-
dent Hines had testified this took place.
Mr. Aldricf said that after his talk with
the President about Loriner Hines was
al his house to get a report.
MI AldrAch said this about 6 or
o'clock that evening, but he was not posi-
tive Hines said II was about midnight.
Did you tell Mr.. Hines that a republic
can senator from Illinois was needed?'
Better Off Without Him.
No AS matter of fact, as far as the
tariff was concerned, We were better off
with a vacancy than with a senator
With vacancy we needed only forty-six
for d majority: with him we needed for
ty-Seven."
The only one for whom Mr.. Aldrich ex-
pressed to Hines a preference for a SEN
ator. he said, was Lowden.
Mr. .aldrich said he never had any
knowledge of Lormers attitude the
tariff. He said he considered Lorimer a
good republican.
What is your idea of good republi-
CAM" inquired Senator Kenyon.
'One who is a loyal supporter Of the
President and the administration, and
has the courage to stand up against local
interests in so doing
In cross-examina ii on. Attorney Ell
bridge Hanecy. for Senator Lorimer.
asked Mr.. Aldrich if he had not had
many conferences with Mr. Hines about
the time the Illinois legislature was
sitting.
PerhaDS, but at none or them, except
the ones 1 have told about, did We
speak about the Illinois senatorship,
responded the witness
What Witness Understood.
In referring to the talk with Hines
at AldriCh's home in regard to the
Presidents attitude. Mr.. Aldrich said
that he understood that NJ. Hines
would use the information he sought, |
and while Hines did not tell him, he |
understood that Hines would tell MEM
bers of the legislature that Lorimer's |
candidacy was not objectionable to the |
President or himself.
"Or the other SENATOR'S suggested |
Attorney Hanecy.
mo. sir, l was only speaking FOR |
myself
Senator Kenyon asked if the President |
manifested any disposition in favor of |
Lorimer's election Mr.. Aldrich said |
that he did not care TO go into con- |
versations he had with the President, |
and that his testimony as to what he
told Hines was the Presidents ~ l.
tude explained the Presidents attitude
fully.
Took No Active Interest.
when did you begin to take an active
interest in the election of a senator from
Illinois," continued Senator Kenyon.
II never took an active part. 1 was no
more interested in that election than /
was In the election of other republican
senator's
Weren't you interested in having re-
publican elected because of the income
tax natter
That came up subsequently: long sub
sequently, as | remember 1t.
During the examination Senator Ken
Won suggested that the witness ought to
know certain information the senator de-
sired because you were the leader, were
YOU not?''
There were many who did not agree |
TO that" responded Mr.. Aldrich.
Senator Kenyon at another time. when
the witness talking about good re-
publicans. asked him If he considered that
there were bad" republicans in the Sen |
ate when he was leader
4 am not here to pass on my asso-
GATES" responded Mr.. Aidrich, CURLY.
Mr.. Aldrich was asked If he had ever |
objected to Hopkins appointment on the |
national monetary commission. He re-
% piled that he had not. but that he had |
questioned the right OF Vice President |
Fairbanks TO appoint any one to vacan- |
Cies on that commission.
Did you agree with Hopkins tariff |
views?''
Il never knew what they were" re-
sponded Mr.. Aldrich.
Wiehe Calls Burgess a Liar.
c. F. Wiehe. secretary Of the Edward
Hines Lumber Company, enlivened yes
terday afternoons session by pronouncing
William Burgess of Duluth, Mimi, an
absolute liar. and charging a frame
up between Burgess and W. II. Cook.
Mr. Burgess testified that Wiehe had
said on the Winnipeg FLYER last March
that he had contributed $4,000 to a
jackpot fund to elect Senator Lorimer;
Mr.. Wiehe told the committee that If
Burgess testified as the record showed
Burgess was an absolute liar
Reynolds Tells What Hines Said.
George NJ. Reynolds president of the
acknowledgements Bank Of Chicago,
testified to his knowledge Of the al
legged message from the administration
regarding the election OF Mr.. Lorimer
Hines came to me that morning MAY
30 and said he bore a message that
would have an important bearing on
Illinois politics" Mr.. Reynolds said;
that il came directly from Senator AL
drirh, and in reality from tho admins
tration, or President Taft. and was to
Gov. Deneen.
He told me- in substance, that there
senator's I'm Washington. and he had been
commissioned to take message which
Was in effect, that the senators, includ-
ing the President, had expressed desire
TO have senator elected from Illinois.