New-York tribune., 1911-12-31
MORE GIVE LIE TO CLERK
Hundred So Far Deny Making
Criticism of Hyde.
MYSTERY AS TO TILDEN
Not Known at Law Office of Elk
Chamberlain - Perjury
Inquiry Goes On.

Up to late hour last evening over one
assistants Of District Attorney Whitman
in hs investigation OF tho affidavit Of Is
rael Tilden. designed TO show that Charles
Hiram Hyde. the former City Chamberlain,
could not get fair trial on a charge OF
bribery in New York or Kings County on
account Of the "infamed state Of public
opinion in respect Of his guilt"
John *. Clark, Assistant District Attor-
nev in charge OF the investigation 10 de-
termine whether Tiden's affidavit was per-
jury. said that not one OF the hundred per-
sons mentioned by Tilden had any reco!-
lection OF asserting any opinion as 10
Hyde's guilt Each man was willing to
make affidavit to the Assistant District
Attorney. Five others were willing to give
the lie 10 their part in Tilden's affidavit,
but they weren't agreeable TO making af-
fldavits, as they wished 10 avoid further
notoriety. they said.
Eight others appearing on Tlden's list
couldn't be found by the investigator. One
man, Daniel Reeves, a grocer, at No. 7Si
Amsterdam avenue, who was quoted as
saying Hyde IS q crook" died last Octo-
Der. the Investigators found. Tildens sf-
fdavit recited that the 1877 persons whose
opinions on HYDE were cited we're called
upon during a period of three weeks before
December 26 Since Thursday the inves-
tigation has accounted for III OF the names
appearing IN the affidavit. Twenty-three
more are yet to be heard from.
Mystery surrounds the identity OF Til
den. BY many he is supposed to have been
a Brooklyn Law School student employed
in the law office of Hyde. Inquiry elected
the information yesterday that Ttlden was
unknown there John E. Stanchfield, coun-
sci for Hyde in his motion for change OF
venue on the eve of his trial. has expressed
a conviction that "Tilden will be able TO
substantiate his affidavit when the time
comes
More popularity surrounding Hyde's case
arises from the fact that he Is represented
by several lawyers, but as yet, there IS
nothing to snow which lawyer VIII conduct
his trial in the Supreme Court in the event
that his motion for a change OF venue Is
denied James W. Osborne Is llydcs couh-
sci of record. Mr.. Stanchfeld appears as
counsel for the venue motion, while Max -.
Steuer is regarded as the probable trlal
LAWYER. Mr.. Hyde was in consultation
Yesterday afternoon with Mr.. Steuer I'm the
Iatter's Offices at No. ll5 Broadway Mel
ther would make any statement
Mr.. Clark was assisted yesterday in his
Investigation by Charles t. Colligan, John
NJ Minton. tr., and Louis Bleier, deputy
assistant district attorneys With notaries.
these men went about getting aflidavits de-
nying all that Tildcn quoted thcm as say
tfnn al IL
plirnents attributed 10 them included ref
orcncos to Hyde as "a damned crook,
worse than common murderer thief
and d rascal" etc.
Among those who made anidayits TO the
District Attorney yesterday were Adolph
Belm, clerk, No. 2l2 West 96th street; Louis
A. Boyer. wholesale and retail tobacconst'
No. % West 2Sth street; Henry Buchs'
pharmacist. No 66l Columbus avenue: Nor
ris Fisk, jcwcllcr. No. SIS Sixth avenue;
Peter Brown. florist. No 9l2 Sixth avenue;
Philip Brady, shoemaker No lJl West 9Jth
street; John J. Kelly. butter and eggs, No.
IA Amsterdam avenue: Meyer Lehman. la
dies tailor. No. 73G Amsterdam avenue
August Menken, clerk, No. 2l2 West g6th
street: Jacob II. Mitchell. manager No. G3l
Broadway; Joseph Moskowitz grocer, No
60 Forsyth street; Alexander Nelson, carpen-
ter, No. lO3 West 9jth street; Michael Pas
carela, paper maker. No. 232 West Broad
way; George Skimmell, manager. No 40
Columbus avenue; l. NJ. Smith, real estate
No 57i Columbus avenue, and Max Weller
tailor. No. 100 West ijth street.
Tiden quoted Michael Pascarella as say
ing, "In my opinion, Hyde is no better than
the rest OF US, and he ought to be con
victed." In denial. Pascarela told the in
vestigators that he lost no money in the
Northern Bank or the Carnegie Trust Com
pany, and, inasmuch as he could neither
read nor write English. he didn't read the
newspapers; therefore he never heard about
the case OF Hyde. much less form any opin-
ion about IIyde's guilt.