The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-01-17
u emocra is and Insur-
gentsAgainShoveHim
From His Throne.
HE SEEKS TO KILL
ONEOF NEW RULES
Regulars Fight Gamely to Sus-
tain Speaker in His Effort to
Override Ironclad Rule
Drawn by Champ Clark,
but They Are Over
whelmed.

Washington, d. C.. January lG.-The
stirring scenes OF the last session OF
Congress. when the House overthrsw
Sneaker Cannon and took the making
OF its rules into It's own hands, was
re-cnac,cd in part on the noor Of tho
House to-day
Threatened with what they believed
10 DC an effort to draw the teeth" vi.
one OF the most important of the new
rules. Democrats and Insurgents Joined
In the defeat OF the Speaker BY a
vote OF ii5 to leG. the combined forces
rallied TO the support OF Rcprcsenta-
tive Fitzgerald CDemocrau, Of New
York, and sustained him in his appeal
from the Speakers ruling
Ihc night developed as tho result OF
the second attempt to use the new
rule. which gives the House tho power
10 discharge a committee from further
consideration of Il bin that has been
referred TO IT. The Insurgents and
the Democrats believed that this role
WAS ifonclad. that as soon as the con-
sideration OF bills by unanimous con-
sent lad been concluded. on every first
and third Monday OF the month, the
House was bound by the new rule to
take up tile motions to discharge COM
nitiecs from the custody OF specified
bills.
Forces Rniiy.
When the moment arrived to-day
however. Speaker Cannon gave recog-
milton 10 Representative Hull. of Iowa,
chairman al the Military Affairs Com
mi;tcc. Mr.. Hun moved that the House
resolve itself into a committee Of the
whole and take UP tile consideration
OF tile military appropriation bill, upon
which II had been working last week.
There MAS AN immediate rallyinE Of
FORCES and s,inening OF ranks amongst
he Insurgents and Democrats.
Mr. l'i;zscrala insisted upon the con-
sidera ion OF Il motion to discharge a
committee. which was upon the cacn-
dar. Speaker Cannon declined to give
Mr.. Fitzgerald the preference but said
;hat he would be glad 10 conside. "a
point OF order. If Mr.. Fitzgerald wanted
10 make one.
The Democratic members declared
that he did not have TO make point,
OF order that his was the rign, TO
recognition under the new rulc, with
out the raising OF any point OF order
against. tile Speakers action.
''You'il overrulc me II | make point
OF ORDER said Mr.. Fitzgerald.
Insurgents. Democrats and Regulars
jumped into the free debate that fol-
lowed. Upon the Speakers refusal TO
recognize Mr.. Fitzgerald, the latter
was finally forced 10 make n point or
order against The taking up of the
army appropriation bill.
The Speaker, in has ruling on the
point said that the new rule did not
make 1t mandatory upon the House
10 take up the motions to discharge
committees; that it simply made su-n
motions in order if the House desired
10 take them up
Upon this basis. the Speaker held
that Mr.. Hull and the army appropria-
ton bill had the right OF way. and the
motions provided for under the new
rule could not be interposed.
Il appeal from the decision OF the
chair" cried Mr.. Fitzgerald.
II move to lay that motion on tho
table" interposed Representative Payne.
OF New York, Republican leader OF tho
House.
Payne MotAn Defeated.
The Payne motiot was the first test
of strength, and ii tas defeated by a
vote of 1851 To ia Then followed an
acrimonious debate upon uic ruling.
When the vote finally was taken upon
the appeal from Speaker Cannon's de-
cision twenty-thrce Insurgents and all
but one of the Democrats present voted
against the Speaker. The result was
the defeat of his ruling by a vote or
tia 10 l2j. Fourteen members an
swcred present but did not vote be-
cause of pairs with absent members.
Representative Saunders. OF Virginia.
MAS the only Democrat voting against
Mr.. Fitzgerald. in the appeal from ths
chairs decision.
The result of the vote is expected
to settle definitely the status of the
new rule.
The rule that brought about the test
o fstrength and the defeat of the Regu-
lar forces to-day is the last change
that was made III the code OF rules of
the House last session. 1t was pre-
pared by Champ Clark, the minority
leader. and passed last June witt but
one dissenting vote.
Its purpose was TO give a means for
getting bills away from committees
when the latter attempted TO "smother''