The Sentinel=record., 1911-07-25
ARBUCK!LLEE:
 FEARED LAW
FEAR OF 5fiE EnMAfi LAW PRE- VENTED WARRING SUGAR iN-
 TEREsTs FROM COMBINING.
hrbuckle Baked Whenever the Prop osition Was roached-Propped Up in Bed He Testifies
 Before Committee.

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 New Paltz, N. Y., July 24.- me one good reason why the warning su- gar interests did not sign an agree ment to end the conflict was fear of the sherman antitrust law. There we're minor considerations of course, but every time the matter was broach- ed to Jchn Arbuckle, when the fight waxed warmest, MT. Arbuckle declin- ed and told his opponents to remem- Der the Sherman law.
 Propped up by pillows in his bed, MT. Arbuckle so testified today be- fore a subcommittee of the special Congressional Investigating commit tee.
 The congressman had come to MT. Arbuckle's bedside because he was unable to come to them and they found him apparently unreserved in giving the history of his commercial battles. Mir Arbuckle said the fight started in 1898, after there had been little friction between his coffee company and the American Refinery. The American Company retaliated by going into coffee business. Previous to that he, however said, MT. Havemeyer had tried unsuccess- fully to purchase fifty one per cent of his uncompleted refinery. This was in 1897, he said. "when Have- meyer came to see him about it.
 Are you making as much sugar now as you did in days of the war;"
 Yes, much more"
 You made sugar at loss during lthe fight?''
 Yes, off and on, and the war Is Inot ended yet. We are ready te flight in minute. always said there should be no agreement to cur- ltail or reduce production Of sugar or lcontrol prices and there never will be as long as I am in the sugar busi- mess"
 Mir. Arbucitie said he strongly sus- lpected rebates were being given by Irefiners to wholesalers but said he ldid not think rair oaus were involved. T knew 1T. 0. iIavenmeyer for 40 years" he added.
 "f1e had his good and his bad quail lisies. He played his violin magnifi- lcently. I told him that man who |eouId make that kind of music was hot as bad as neople' Thought him to be. ]"
 MT. Arbuckle said the American company had the ability to and all ways did maintain the price of sugar. Because of its capacity it fixes the maximum price. he said, the independ- ent fixing the minimums. But the Independents follow the Americans Iprice do they not?'
 Yes"
 Didn't time come when there was an armistice between you and the Isugar trust?"
 There was never an agreement or Ian armistice. There's likely to be Ian outbreak any time.
 Did you ever have an interview
 
 with C.. A. Spreckles, owner of the Federal Refinery?" asked RepreseIEa- Itive Madison.
 Yes. I wanted him to join In the ltrade laboratory was establishing He would not, think, because the American company was in 1t. I told him he was foolish, that he was ios. ling money and there was no use bit ling off his nose to spite his face. We had all lost money by the system of lsugar polarization. That was all our Interviews was about. '
 Mir. Madison ssid he read in the minutes of the American company en- ltries showing the trust loaned be- tween s4,o0o.ooo and s5,0OO,00o to the WooIson coffe Plant at Toledo. that lthe company had charged $700.0ev to profit and loss account, and that the flight against Arbuckle had cost the ltrust even more than that.
 "So the American is still going af- tier trade the way it used to?" 1 Not so much as formerly. When Havemeyer was alive he would not Istop at anything. He would use any kind of weapon that he needed.
 Wasn't the fierceness of the sugar |war modified after 1903, when the American decided not to lose any