The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1911-05-26
DR.. Ives Exhibits Patients at D. G.
NJ Hlinic-one Is Insane Over
Religion and Another Has the
Love Bug"
Alienist Claims That Joan Of Arc
and swedsnborg Were Mentally
Defective.

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the course of lecture on "Paran-
ola, In the closing clinic OF the De-
troit College or Medicine Alumni as
ISOLATION In the amphitheater of st.
Mary's hospital, Thursday morning.
The doctor dealt with the subject IN
an exhaustive and comprehensive
manner. telling of the different nal
lucinations with which most paran-
oiacs are afflicted.
Some paranoiacs." he said, "are
possessed OF the idea that they are
being imposed on by their employers.
: Others imagine that certain parties
owe them money. In this connection
might mention the case OF young
man who insisted that the Grand
Trunk railway owed him $500 for
imaginary services. He couldn't be
convinced that his claim was wrong.
Then there are young men, par
anoiacs, who believe that they are In
love with women much above them In
social standing, and that the women
are In love with them. have just such
a patient here in the hospital and l
Will bring him In for you to see In Few
minutes. This man, a Belgian. thinks
that young lady, to whose house he
delivered parcel, is madly In love
with him. He is In love with her and
wants to marry her He has even got
down on his knees and begged FER
parents to give him her hand or
course, such a union would be out OF
the question, because of the difference
in the social standing OF the two. This
man can never aspire to the position
which she holds In society. His mind
became so strongly impressed with
the belief that she was In love with
him and he in love with her tha he
had to be restrained. That Is
he Is here"
The patient was brought into the
clinic and questioned by DR.. Ives. He
IS a big. powerfully built man. In re-
Spouse to the queries Of DR.. Ives he
admitted that he loved the girl in
question and that he was sure she
was In love with him. He seemed
greatly pleased when DR.. Ives told
him he would intercede for him with
the parents OF the girl.
After the patient had left the clinic,
DR.. Ives said that the man had threat
ened to kill his employer and man
who was working In a tailor shop
with him and afterwards commit sui
eide, because of the belief that they
were trying to keep him and the girl
he thinks loves him apart.
Another patient produced by DR..
Ives was man of about 10 years OF
age who is, according to the doctor,
insane on religion. The old man, a
veteran of the Civil war, came into
the clinic with his Bible under his
arm. Dr.. Ives told him to address the
doctors. The patient then proceeded,
after saying he was born In Kingston,
Ont. to say that he was converted
/, after the Civil war, having heard the
voice of the Lord saying In a revival
meeting. None to help? None to
help?"
81 said to the voice, I will help
said the patient, and from then until
now I have been working for God.
get messages from Him right along.
while walking along the street. He
talks with me and tells me what to
do and where to 60"
DR.. Ives said, after the patient left
the clinic. that he was convinced that
the man was q paranoiac.
1T Is quite certain that God doesn't
talk to that man as he intimates,"
said DR.. Ives However, | am OF the
opinion that the patient could go into
a pulpit and preach pretty good SER
mon without any member OF the laity
realizing that he was insane"
DIR. Ives then declared that the
laity ia very often deceived In regard
"a nayanoiacs. He referred to the
way he was censured by certain par
ties and agencies for signing the GER
tificate TO confine the wife of q De-
|. troit lumberman In the insane asylum.
He maintained that he was justified
I'm recommending her commitment.
.srhat woman" said DR.. Ives. was
n paranoiac. She imagined that her
husband was supporting other women
and buying apartment houses for
them. In fact, so strong were her
suspicions that she went to his office
with him. In the morning, and remain
I'd ALI day. refusing to let him out OF
her sight. She even insisted on ac-
coInnanying him TO st. Louis on n
business trip, declaring that she was
sure he was planning to take another
woman along. AS she entered the coach
another woman got out and she de-
cIared that this was the woman her
husband had intended to take with
him Che also accused innocent wo-
men OF being too friendly with her
husband.
I'VE Investigated her representa-
TONS and found that they were abso-
iuteIv baseless. Now, that woman
could deceive the laity In regard TO
her condition so long as she was not
questioned about her husband, for she
was perfectly sane and rational on all
other topics"
eTben was abused and held up to
ridicule because of my declaring an
Armenian physician, charged with
murder (Dr. Royajian), to be per-
fectly sane at the time he perpetrated
the crime. Because OF the absurd
laws of Michigan, this man was freed
by a fury and allowed to fningie again
With the public.
"The plea Of insanity In murder
cases IL the proper thing. however,
and an association of alienists- de-
clares that Il is not used enough, In
!. order to prevent miscarriage OF Jus
tice. There 10 more harm done, ac-
cordine 70 this association, by the
lack of expert medical testimony ia
criminal cases than by what 10 used.
Statistics show that many prisoners
are sent TO asyiums after being con-
victed OF criminal onenses, showing
that they should have been adtudged
49, ~ IN trial 4"