Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1911-09-27
Y. NJ. c. A. LEADERS
STILL CR|T|C|S|NG
ROSES PROPHECY
Disagree With Pastor Regarding
Success of Men and Re-
Iigious Movement.

Religious workers in the Y. M. c. A..
and similar organizations are still tax
ing exception to remarks made by the
Rev. Henry r. Rose in his sermon
i'm the Church of the Redeemer Sunday,
when he said that Men and Religion
Forward Movement would fail and that
such organizations were contributory
reasons.
Three additional letters have been
received by the STAR by those who
disagree with Mr.. Rose, who maintains
he is right, as told in the evening
STAR yesterday. The letters are as
follows:
10 the Editoc Of The Evening star:
Dear Sir-It seems impossible that
anybody could be deceived by the shall
lowness of the Rev. Mr.. Roses diatribe
against what he calls "antediluvian
theology" but | suppose there will be
o great many.
I'm the first place il looks very much
as though his attempted slap at the
Men and Religion Forward Movement.
the greatest thing that has ever been
undertaken by the united church i'll this
nation, was a mere excuse when
served as an opportunity to parade his
modern advanced ideas on theol-
ogy. If this be true, what can he be
called except a d~emagogue?
He sneers at the good old religion
of our mothers because, forsooth, it
offers salvation to a sin-sick soul
through Jesus Christ. And he says
that is "an%tediluvian.' He's gotten be-
yond that When you la reached
the summit of "A mountain you cannot
no Nt,a.,ay1ff ,tn1aec xn1l on AnuUD hill
That's the kin of progress" he and
his ilk are making-down hill.
"As the superintendent of his home
now for several years | want to say
most emphatieally that from my expe-
rience with thousands of men, lost in
sin, there is nothing / can offer such
men that has proved at all effectual ex-
cept 'the religion of our mothers" viz,
salvation through Jesus Christ from all
sin and the keeping power of the Holy
Spirit in the future. Here is something
that works What has this reverend
sneerer got to offer that will even be-
gin to match it? Sincerely,
ERNEST G. RANDALL"
To the Editor of the Evening Star:
with reference to the statement
made b. the Rev. II. r. Rose that the
Y. M. C. A. takes the men from the
church, I can say such is not the case.
] have beel largely engaged in volun-
tary social work, both in the church
and Y. M. c. A. l am constantly In
close t. oh with the men of whom Mr..
Rose speaks, the church has had the
larger share of my time. | have had
the experience and could show records,
SO will be frank and safe in saying
that the Y. NJ. c. A. gives, takes and
sends, a far greater number of men
to the church than does the church to
the Y. NJ. G. A.
Evidently the Rev. Mr.. Rose is not
a mans man like some of Newark's
pastors.
Yours respectfully.
ALFRED e. TEMPLER,
president Bureau Bible Glass, c.. NJ.
r.. Church.
Secretary Helpers Club, Y. M. c.. A.
chairman Dormitory Reception Com
mittee. Y. NJ. c. A"
To the Editor of the Evening Star:
THE progressive spirit of your paper
is again evidenced by the space you
are giving to the discussion of The
Men and Religion Forward Move-
ment.
This new movement promises much
good and lasting results. Men as a
Auit VAL NC ICiNAiSo w VII dpptdl "
their better judgment and intelligence.
Practically every responsible individual
recognizes a higher intelligence and be-
lieves in a divine influence in the
formation and control of the universe.
Every man feels a personal pride In
living a just and upright life, trying to
establish a record for absolute fairness
and gentleness towards his fellowmen.
So it is not such a difficult task to at
tract his attention and reach his higher
instincts and arouse his better quail
tiles.
Blu it is not deemed good business
diplomacy nowadays to try to brighten
men into doing something; 1t is gen.
orally conceded the best results are OBJ
tained by appealing to their man.
hood, their better judgment and their
relations and responsibilities to existing
laws and conditions When it comes to
assuming the responsibility of direct
ing an intelligent thinking mar just
how and why he should worship is a
very delicate proposition, n for that
reason it would seem that some liber-
atty regarding creed would be prudent
If not wise to insure the cooperation
of all.
"The needs of the hour is a fine line
of diplomacy of a nature to overcome
the non-church man and the good
church man.
"a little more forebearance, a little
more gentleness, a little more kindness,
one to another will help. Try to en-
courage men to yield more freely to
the better promptings of their inner
selves and awaken their conscience
to renewed vigilance.
when men stop to think and begin
to yield to this higher influence within
themsc. cs the victory is won.
"Then if the good church people will
yield a little bit. by not being too ex-
acting about creed. there may be a
mutual ground. liberal enough for all
TO unite sor the uplift and betterment
of man. Cordially.
LOOKING FOR LARD"