The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-10-23

VINO represented the company that its
president had not troubled about the
case and had told the lawyer he knew
the Judge. in fact that he once rent
ed an office from me. Well. when I
imposed heavy penalty his lawyer
said TO him: I thought you said you
knew the judge?'
did know him. but when 1 rent
ed the office in his suite the gas meter
was not turned off, and he learned at
forwards that he was paying my gas
bills. 1 guess that's what turned him
against me-
Now. it may seem ridiculous, but
there are men just like that who think
court decisions hinge on personal
likes or dislikes, or. as in this case,
on gas bill"
The Debs case in the American
Railway Union strike was one OF tn.
big cases in your early career on tn,
bench?" i, was suggested.
Yes of course. That is st!n to the
fore"
There is nothing pending in con-
nection with that case?"
That isn't what 1 mean" Judge
Grosscup replied. abstractedly Il
mean the Misunderstanding. can
say this, however, that the big. broad
me l have been umpire in many of
their disputes and a standing umpire
Tor some unions, elected time after
tlne. The big labor men knew that 1
stood for square deal for the
workers"
You advocate Industrial democracy,
the peopieiZation OF industry. and still
assert that you are not Il Socialist
ISM IT another name for the same
idea?'
We'll, let US see about that" and
Tie jurist picked up pencil and be-
gan drawing diagrams on a big blot
ter" The original unit in industry
was the individual; as industry de-
NeioPed We saw the partnership. then
came the corporation, and to-day we
have the big corporation embracing
mill ms in that industry"
AS he spoke lie drew small circle
the blotter
But he continued. 1T is all inside
I that small circle. We might have in
austrial democracy within that indus
Try The men in control would ne
men selected by their fellows in the
INDUSTRY because of their individual
quaiihcations for the position. In this
ou every man fits into his own
niche in the scheme.
sweep the whole country" and he
drew large circle on the blotter
Men In control would be selected. nor
oy their fellows in a certain indus
Try but by the whole. without refer
ence to their qualifications.
The day is coming when corpora
lions must conduct their business with
more regard to the social weli-beinr
OF their workers. l do not think it
just to allow certain individuals to
reap all the profits from an industry
The profits should be shared by all
who help create them"
On a profit sharing plan?'
NO. not profit sharing as 1t is now
practiced. Profit sharing, as we now
understand 1t, means giving the work
ers a certain share of the profits as
a gift or bonus. The workingman is
not asking for any gifts. He is ask
ing for certain things as a right. not
as charity.
I'VE are in the midst of revolu-
tion now. 1t IS working out slowly.
There will be no sudden change. IL is
United States, but ii Is apparent here
to the close observer. The most sig
niticant thing was Lloyd Georges bud
get, placing tax on land values The
land laws in Great Britain are bad.
and have kept the workinsmen from
the land. In this country the farmer
largely has had access to the land"
But the tax system here is equally
bad, is ii not?"
well, the tax system here is bad. I
admit. as well some other things.
but we are drifting from the subject.
must go and catch my train"