Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1911-04-06

NA~h ~ SNofoSild MN. 1 Will give YOU
his name. He can appear Saturday II
desired
(signed) H H. KOHLsAAT"
Mr.. Healy; "will you tell the COM
mittee, Mr.. Kohlsaat, what developed
which called out the telegram, copy
of which has just been presented for
the consideration Of the committee ?"
Chairman Helm; 1T was Friday
evening that | received that
The witness: when l arrived at
my office Thursday morning the first
call over the telephone was from
Clarence S. Funk. general manager
of the International Harvester COM
pany. Mr.. Funk asked if he could
see me at once. and told him yes,
to come over and as near as I can
remember. he said
1 saw by the papers last night and
this morning that you had been sub
poenaed to appear in Springfield and
had declined to give up my name TO
the committee, the senate committee.
l would be a little less than man if
/ held you under any further conf
dence as to giving my name or iden-
tity. | wish to say now that | re-
lease you from all obligations to
maintain secrecy and that | feel that
| also have duty to perform that
until this time / did not feel free to,
and ii the committee wishes to sub
poena me. will so to Springfield and
tell the whole story
He further said:
when | reached his office this
morning l met Mr.. Cyrus II. McCor-
mick, the president of the Interna-
tional Harvester company and he
asked me If | had seen the morning
| papers as to what had taken place al
Springfield. l said l had. He re-
marked how do You feel about it?
| said, MIR. Mccormick, | think
it my duty not only to release Mr
kohlsaat from all obligations of sill
ence, but 1t is also my duty to sc
and tell everything | know in regard
to it," Mr.. Mccormick answered:
Good; that is exactly what
wanted you to say and | want you tc
tell that committee everything you
know, no matter what the conse-
quences may be to the international
| Harvester company.
Il then drafted, later on, this tele.
gram. in conjunction with Mr.. Funk
and sent it to Mr. Helm"
Question: And Mr.. Funk is The
gentleman who gave you the infor-
nation upon which you based the
editorial which was presented to the
| committee the other day."
Answer: Yes.
The witness: IF you would like
| to ask me how the conversation came
about, | am perfectly willing to tel
| it,"
Chairman Helm: "Well, you might
state that, If you will.
| Answer Shortly after the Whit,
! confession | met Mr.. Funk on Jack
son boulevard, near the corner o.
| Wabash avenue on my way TO lunci
| at the Chicago club. He stopped ant
! shook hands and he--I do not re
member whether he started the con
versatiQn on the Lorimer case, or
| but he then told me Of what had oc
| Cured short time before-it wa
after the election of Senator Lorimer
| say this because ! want to show
to tell this. but it was told in an or
dinary conversation without any fore
| thought Of meeting, and that he ther
said of course | do not want to b'
known in this matter, ! do not carr
to make this public. 1t came to m'
as an officer of the company and no
in my private capacity
Mr. Healy: "And about when wal
| that conversation, Mr.. Kohlsaat?'
Answer: Il should say it was per
haps thirty days after the election o
Lorimer"
Chairman Helm 1T came up il
a conference or discussion over thu
White statement, did it, Mr.. Kohl
saat?"
Answer: Yes"
Chairman Helm: "Go ahead
A. "Mr. Funk told me that th'
gentleman who came to him said tina
they had an opportunity to elec
Senator Lorlmer by raising fund o
100000. few of them had under
written it--I may not give his IAN
guage exactly, because 1t is SOM
time ago and | never expected to b'
called to the stand, few of us un
derwrote ii and sent 1t down, and w
are now around asking some people
to reimburse us partially for tn
money that was sent.
Clarence Funk, called as a witness
was then examined by Mr. Healy, an'
testified in part;
@. What is your business p
A. IL am general manager OF tn
International Harvester company.
| @. where are your headquar
| ters?
A. Harvester building, Chicago.
O. What generally are your du
ties as general manager OF the inter
national Harvester company
lA. General supervisor OF the oper
ating end of the business"
@. II direct your attention to
conversation that YOU had with Ed
ward Hines, of the Edward Hine
Lumber company. in the latter par
of the month of May, 1903, or IN
early part of June, 1908. Did suc'
conversation take placer
A. We'll / cannot identity tn
month. | had a conversation wit
=. t....,,d Hines charity after IOrimp