The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1911-04-23
College VS.. University to Dr. Alderman
by President Tyler of William and Mary

collegiate existence or William and
Mary is It's irdividunlism. into which
enter such matters. for instance. as
Topography and traditions II is an ac-
certed fact tina, every college crcntes
its own clientele which cannot he read
lily transferred 10 any other institution
William and Mary is the only college
IN East Virginia. constituting cnc-third
OF the state In area and population.
ana il has traditions and associations
which no other college. not even the
university. can pretend 10, These ,rn
dit!ons may not appeal With much force
10 DR.. Alderman. as North Carolinian,
hut they mean great deal to the aver
age Nirsinia boy. who Is proud OF the
history OF his State.
Now a few words as to tho normal
course at William and Mary. In the
newspaper report OF tho late meeting
This paragraph occurs: There was some
comment OH the fact that there are but
three or four teachers at the college
William and Mary) who give instruc-
tion in what the state supports the
school fora normal training school
for young men. This is clear misap-
prchension OF the work OF the college.
Every professor aud instructor In the
college shares In the work of tho course
prescribed in our catalogue for the
teachers diploma. which Is in, ended for
the common school teachers Three or
four teachers" arc doing work in the
educational department.. which is only
q part of the normal course. and that
is all that our professor. j. w. Ritchie.
who was present. did or could have
said 10 tho commission. The greater
part of the work of every normal coll
icEe is cultural. and the contention TO
the contrary shows n sad lack OF in
formation In every normal institution
the student must he given knowledge
as well as training. To those Who OBJ
ject that there is too much cultural
course at William and Mary. I ask who
has greater need OF culture than a
teacher?
I The classes above the teachers di-
plomn 8; William and Mary are all in
cludcd In the different courses for tho
bachelors degree. which requires about
two years further study. If we are
10 train teachers competent, for the
high schools and TO occupy the position
OF superIntendents of schools. they
must have the education of a bachelor
OF arts. But to admit this is to rem
der the attack upon our time honorcd
masters degree wholly pointless. Our
masters degree is extensive in its APP
plication. and takes III bachelors
course. ami parts OF other bachelors
courses. amounting 10 abou, ono years
moro study. II does moi demand or
ncceSsitate single extra professor a Z
the college To attempt 10 do away
with 1t warrants tho belief, which
have already expressed, that pr. Alder
man wishes 10 abolish our bachelor Of
arts. as we'll as our master of arts, and
to confinc the collegcto training teach
crs for the common schools--makinS
the college. of course. a mere normal
Spbool N1w abgur1
maintain In Virginia what is attempte
nowhere else in the union-a mere MOI
NAL school for male white teachers.
Such school. deprived OF the higher
inducements would not DO attended.
What the hoy aspires TO is 10 be a high
school teacher or superintendent of
schools. So an institution fitting him
ONLY for the common schools would not
preparc him for his work.
II pr. Alderman. contrary 10 tho re-
ccivod opinion of eminent scholars.
thinks that only one State college OF
the arts and sciences is necessary, lot
him abolish his Collegiate department
at the university and join in making
William AMI Mary College the great
state college. IN connection with the
postgraduate courses at the univcr
sty Without the burden of his col
lcEe courses, DIR. Alderman could con-
centrate his money and his efforts on
his ost-gradiate courses. and equip
them in a manner that would be the
pridt OF ali Virginia
SPEAK ~ matter of.my own ex-
pc-ience- During ms administration
mere ] liave in vain attempted TO get
ItnE PIN y. from the university 10 fill
the. different vacancies offered in our
college The reason has been that the
energies O! ilic university have been
ccmplrtely absorbed in it's under
sr4puate depariment. SO that orr
hofrf nt Visitors. consisting Of pat
;!pifc NirE !nanS. have been compelled
framed professors from I.eipsig Chi
$50 tnirersity Princeton I'nivcysity
NElHr5irN aud Johns Hopkins have
3+ri informed on good authority that
therr rre some departments at the
lr!:ersity which have not over a half
d9zsn students n attendance upon lee
tur.si
me poin, made in regard 10 the
rost- graduate courses Al Inc university
j ciHpiiasized hy The following extract
from III: report Of the CARNEGIE Founl
d.t!on FOR 1898. Those who have 10
dAal "!ih education and with its or
sHniza'!cn must make clear the dis
i!nction between college and univcr-
titri The college and the tIniver-
pVseA. 1.-THE college is a place for
general culture and The univc -sity n
placc FOR III. promotion OF scholarly
research and for professional train
ing"
Prssiden, Thwing. a widely recog-
nizrd authority in college matters.
links tHaI the primary purpose of
iac college il 10 form the character OF
UNDERGRADUATES. while that Of the uni
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