The Mena weekly star., 1911-07-06
GIRL
FOR HINES
'.hanoe Operator Recalls His Con-
usaiion With Governor Deneen
4 Money Was Not Mentioned
remembers No Other Talks.

81 the L0rliiler ihNoooiSaeioii coh-
t6ued today
Mss Carroll will go down in The
ords of the investigation as {
aman with a remarkable memory
she assumed to give, verbatim
IL two conversations which Hines
said TO have had over the lone
sjstance telephone OH the day Lori
H. was elected, with Governor
oeneen and with Lorimer.
She repeated, word for word
4bat each man said, but she could
,al recall any other conversation
n had heard on that day or any
5Iher.
Miss Carroll appeared to be per-
tans 30 wears old with an attractive
sleasant address. She wore blue
sbirtwaist and black hat with white
& lace trimmings, blue gloves and
THE witness produced her record
6ook for May, 1909, showed that she
aad at Hines request, called
9nringfeld, and connected Hines
Nith Governor Deneen at 1905 in
H. morning on the day Lorimer
& Has elected, May 26. The CONVEX
zation lasted four minutes.
S was there any statement by Mr..
Zines" asked Judge Farrar, who
fonducted the examination, lin his
1onversation with Governor Deneen
md Mr.. Lorimer as to when he
Eould come down and bring all the
money necessary"
a mo sir"
was there any mention of mon
eyY"
# mo sir"
1T would be ungallant for me to
ASK your age" said Judge Farrar,
II would you mind telling the COM
mite Voluntarily"
VI I'm of legal age" replied the wit
smiling.
n Eighteen is the legal age in IL
*linois," commented Judge Hanecey,
linois, commented Judge Hanecey.
Il Miss Carol did not give her age
Tbut later she said she had been in
the employ of the company for ten
years.
How long did you say the con-
Eversation between Hines and Gov
8ernor Deneen lasted" asked Sena-
TOR Kern.
-Four minutes" replied the wit
ness.
wont you please relate It
again?" asked Senator Kern, taking
out his watch and holding it below
the table SO that the witness could
not see it.
Miss Carroll repeated word for
word what purported to be the con-
yersation. When she concluded
Senator Kern said:
Now what you have said took
40 seconds instead of four minutes.
Perhaps you talked faster than Mr..
Hines and the Governor?"
Perhaps" replied Miss Carroll.
Now is it not probable that some
thing was said that you have not
related?n
May be So" replied the witness,
but have given you the substance
OF the conversation"
Miss Carroll's testimony and the
entries in her telephone book ten
ded TO substantiate Hines evidence,
and contradict the statement of
Cook. Especially did the entries in
her phone book dispute the time
given by Cook as to when the con-
versation in his room take place.
The witness SAIL she heard Hines
say:
Hello governor: Hello governor,
THIS is Hines. | have just returned
from Washington. i have a message
from the president, through SEN
ator Aldrich, TO see you as soon as
possible and to have you do all you
can TO aid the election Of Mr.. Lori
mer.n
AT first the governor didn't seem
70 recognize Mr.. Hines voice." said
MISS Carroll, land Mr.. Hines said
he would call Mr.. Reynolds, who
was at the Continental Bank, and
nave himself (Hines) Identified.
men the governor sail he recog-
nlzed Mr.. Hine, voice Governor
Leneen said he would sec Mr.. Lori
incr as soon as possible.
A Few minutes later Miss Carroll
SAID, Hines called her from the
continental Bank and asked her to
get Lorimer at Springfield. Hines
Then went to Cooks room in the
orand Pacific Hotel, and when she
got Lorimer she called Hines at
looks room.
a man whose voice she didn't
Know answered and she asked If
Mr. Hines was there. Hines came
10 the telephone aud the witness
continued:
I said, Mr.. Hines, here is MIR.
Lorimer.' Mr.. Hines said, Is that
you Mr.. Lorimer?' He said, I have
Just talked with the governor and
ne has promised to assist you Mr..
Lorlmer said. 1 have already seen
tne governor Mr.. Hines said: Do
all you can and leave nothing un-
zone and / will come down this
afternoon Mr.. Lorimer said i
dont think you can arrive here to-
Jay In time to do any good. I'll wire
you OF telephone you later
MISS Carroll said she remembered
the conversation so accurately be-
cause 1t was the first time she had