Tulsa daily world. [volume] (Tulsa, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1905-1919, 1911-10-01
OIL MEN AFRAID
Of PIPE Lines
IN THE Fast ALL PRopl'lfi'9
ROW 10 THE STANDARD
HEARING comes TO CLOSE
Cannon Carrier Feature Would Ike
ia Work Advantage "a Man
with the Production.

After two days session of the
Interstate Commerce Commission
hearing before Special Examiner
Frank Lyon In the United states
court room In Tulsa the hearing was
adjourned yesterday afternoon at the
call of the commission Examiner
Lyon and Counsel Guthcim, Tor the
commission. left on the afternoon
train for Washington. ID. G, AtoT-
ney Gutheim said that there would
be no further hearings for mohth
to come, probably and that the eV-
dence yet to be procured would come
from the East, probably at Cleveland
or Pittsburgh, and at another point.
He said the mombers of the commits
sion are Just getting back to WASH
ington after their vacations, ana that
they will have lot of work 10 clean
up on their return; cases that they
have heard, before they Will push any
more new work,
The first witness in the pine line
hearing yesterday was A. d. Norton
of Bartlesvile, who has been In the
producing and brokerage business Tor
live years. He believed II would be
an advantage to the producers II the
pipe lines were made common cnrriefs
and subjected to regulation by the
Interstate Commerce Commission,
provided some arrangements were
made for storage facilities at the oth'
err end, and provided further that "A
market could be found. He thought
1t probably would be better If tho
pipe lines were confined to trans
portation alone lie said all produc-
ers were In the market to get tho
best price possible for production
Commissioner Lyon asked Mr. Nor
ton why oil could not be marketed
the same as wheat or any other COM
modify, and asked If IT would help
the producer If the pipe lines were
made common carriers, ana made Ia
provide loading facilities at one end
and storage facilities at the other, the
same as "A railroad. The witness said
he thought this would relieve the sit
uatlon very much.
Mr.. Fitzpatrick of the Prairie oil
ana Gas Company then introduced a
series Of questions TO show that the
producer would have to build con
Meeting lines II the pipe lines were
made common carriers, ana that this
would he a hurdensome expense ana
he closed 10y asking If the witness
thought that there was anybody who
would pay more for oil than the pipe
lines in case the pipe lines should De
made common carriers The witness
did not know lie said he had not
studied this phase of the question.
r.. A. Sterling of Tulsa was the next
witness on the stand. Mr. Sterling is
a buyer and shipper of oil. lie Is a
gentleman Of marked characteristics
and made very interesting witness
lie knew more about the shipping
and marketing of oil than anybody
who had preceded him In this inquiry.
Some of his statements were decided
ly picturesque lie said he did no
business with the pipe lines. but that
he buys direct from the producer
and sells direct 10 the consumer. lie
had tried to have oil transported
Texas Company but they had turned
him down cold. lie was then com
PEELED, therefore. to ship his oil en-
drely by tank ears. When asked how
the Texas Company had turned him
down. he said 1t was by showing at
him a tariff sheet that made the
transportation charge prohibitory. He
said Notwithstanding the fact that he
could not use the pipe lines In get
ting his oil from here to Texas points
he had been able to do good bust
ness in oklahoma since he came here
four years ago. The pipe lines could
not find any better market than he
could. He had been able to sell seven