Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-07-26
CLASHES At HEARING
Tits Between L0rimer Counsel
and Mr.. Kelley.
MIRTH AMONG LISTENERS
Article by Charles A. White Comes
in for Attention.
PARDON OF CASHIER HILLYER
Gov. Altgeld's Views Of Case ofChf.
cago Tribune Employe
Are Read.

! Are Read.
cash after clash between witness ana
attorney occurred today at the Senate
Lorimer committee hearing when the
cross-examination of James Kelley. gen
eral manager and editor Of the Chicago
Tribune, was continued by Senator Lori
mer's counsel. The proceedings largely
centered around the publication OF the So
called confession OF State Representative
| CHARLES A. White of the Illinois legfsla-
ture How Gov. Altgeld pardoned former
cashier Louis A. Iiillyer OF the Chicago
Tribune, convicted OF embezzlement. and
the claim that knowledge Of undervalua-
ton OF the Tribune's property for assess
| men purposes might have been q factor
IN the young mans fall figured at the
outset OF the hearing
Attorney Hanecy, for Lorimer, contIn-
ued the cross-examination of Mr.. Kelley.
| He submitted In evidence the Hillyer
pardon. I'm which the governor said the
cashiers moral courage might have been
| weakened by seeing that the Tribune
| failed to pay by about $4,000 a year
enough rent for school lands ii occupied.
and also that ii undervalued its property
! so that ii paid So, 900 year too little in
/ taxes.
Counters on Questions
| Smiling one minute and irritated tho
| next. Mr.. Kelley countered on many OF
the pointed questions fired at him. The
| Tribunes printing OF item about the
| opening of 'Lorinler's bank at the end
OF the White confession story was taken
| up. Mr.. lIanecy purported To repeat
| what Mr.. keeley had testified TO to
the way the Lorimer bank item hap
pened TO fit in the vacant newspaper
space under the White confession about
the election bribery
| when you quote ME. please read from
| the record" Mr.. keeley sharply reminded
| You put words in my mouth that / DID
not say
Mr. Hanecy said he was not pretending
to quote the witness words. but was
calling attention to the incident. Mr..
K eeley insisted that the juXtaposition or
the Lorimer bank item and the White
story was accidental: that the former was
picked from other newspaper copy in
the composing room in order to ''fit the
hole in the page and not because of the
subject matter.
MI Hanecy asked about the sending ouQ
Of detectives and reporters ito strength
en- the White story
Objects to Word.
1--WE didn't send them out to strengths
en- the story, and | have not said SO.
| 1t was tn Investigate it
| 'sWeH you put il any way that YOU
want. strengthen 'corro5orate' and
| investigate are synonyms in this case.
Analyze, parse and diagram them IL you
| want to-
Charles A. White. the Illinois legislator
who made the alleged confession, was
often broke" said Kelley. Mr.. Kelley
had produced vouchers TO show how
$4,000 was spent on the White stor1.
Mr.. Hanecy picked out one for $50. paid
by Maguire and White. detectives, to
| Charles A. White in December. 1910. Mr..
Keeley denied that any detectives en-
| ployed by the Tribune kept White in
| CUSTODY but said that the SlJ0 was for
| Representative Whites keep and board.
Mr.. Kelley said White was broke" and
had been. broke at other times
| How do you know he was broke?
Because he tried to get money from
me-
"When?"
| Quite recently With that reply Mr..
Keeley produced a letter written April
is. 1911. and signed Charles \. White.
| 1t was addressed to Mr.. Hammer, Mr..
/, Keeley's secretary.
| SAID ne w dS 0TOhe.
| 81 am in an embarrassing position"
wrote White, who explained that he had
been living in a St. Louis hotel for a
week under the name Of Charles Alex
ander and owed SO to the hotel. besides
some other little bills.
my present cash amounts to , cents
he said, and added that he would appre-
ciate the use OF $40 for few days
| He said he was trying to get his boos
printed and then would have some money,
kindly pay the messenger boy who
| brings this, 1t Is impossible Tor me u
do it, the letter ended.
Did he IWhite) want to show you thu
| hole In the lake'?' asked Mr. Nancy.
quoting a Chicago byword for a gold
| BRICK, his question barking back to the
CLAWS flasco described yesterday.
.Oh, I pitied the poor fellow; he was
broke"
you even would pity a broken polite
cian?" inquired Senator Kenyon.
Yes, SIR
so you think White was a politicians
asked Mr.. Hanecy. 1
Il didn't say So"
well, you replied to Senator Kenyon.
THE difference is not between me and
YOU but between you and the senator.
THANK you. l prefer TO be in the SEM
ator's class than in yours.
Item About Bank. )
| Mr.. Hanecy produced a copy of the
| Tribune of May g. 1910. This date was a
| few days subsequent to the publication
| of the White story. In II another Item
| about Lorimer's bank was printed in
| proximity to the Legislative scandal"
| The witness denied that ii was placed
| there maliciously, but said probably the
same makeup men placed it there who
story.
Counsel played on the newspaper word
slug" Mr.. Keeley said that the bank
| item possibly went on slug inarAed
"Lorimer,' and was classified with the
legislative news for that reason.
.This was a slug wasn't it," asked
Mr.. Hanecy.
"Oh- Won know what 1 meant. I was
using a technical phrase for a piece OK
newspaper furniture"
We'll it was not an advertisements:
asked Mr.. Hanecy. Mr.. keeley saio
1t was a news item.