Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1911-10-16
Didn't Keep a Copy.


/ have no copy now"
Mr.. White asked:
Were you given no other instrue-
tions?'
No except when matters of transfer
of saloon license came up. l was in.
structed in each individual case to go to
the places and go through the regular
details required to find out whether a sa-
loon should have a license or not"
Did any OF the Commissioners talk to
YOU about your duty?
Yes. Commissioner Johnston told me
had two oaths of office. and to go ahead
and do my duty
ANY one elSe?"
Well Commissioner Judson asked
me to find out what 1 could about
George Igham, then a candidate for the
position of superintendent of 1nsur-
ance."
Ibid you and Commissioner Judson
talk over any excise matters?
In a general way. He said there
was member of that board dealing
heavily in real estate, and that he
didn't approve of it.
When were you discharged"
October IA. 1910"
Mr.. White asked for the details of
an investigation into an application
by Charles W. Edwards to run the
Piedmont Hotel. 4S94e1 Missouri ave-
Rue. In explaining this Mr.. Horstmann
said he had received an affidavit in
which the lawyer in the case and the
notary who took the oaths were one
and the same person He said he took
tho matter up with the corporation
counsel, who said the affidavit was
improperly made out. and that the ex-
else board did not have to accept it.
~ had photographs taken of the aff1-
davits." said Horstmann. lat the sug-
Eestion of Gen Johnston.
Probed Georgetown Case.
MA 80, ;,,oe.;,o+o.h a o,eo of r,aor-o
Harper. who wanted to open saloon
IN Georgetown"
Yes. ] made the investigation at the
suggestion of Assessor Richards. 1
went to alexandria county in my au-
tomobiIe and found five indictments
against this man. He had been fined
several hundred dollars and was fugi-
tive from Justice l showed my find
i7ge 10 Mr. Richards but Richards re-
wealth attorney for Alexandria county,
rad said the man is all right. l said.
Well. he'll have to back on tho record.
then. Then I went to Mackey and got
his signed statement that Harper had
been indicted. but had fled the county,
md the cases had been nolle pressed
because that was the only way TO get
them off the books.
board?"
Yes to Richards
Was this before the license was
granted?
AT the time his application was made
10 succeed man in business at $50 NJ
street.
When did you get this statement?
'Forty-eight hours after l went on the
case.
What do you know about any action
Capt Schneider of the seventh precinct
police station took about Harper
Went to Maj. Sylvester.
Capt Schneider made a favorable re-
port When / learned of it l Immediately
went to Maj Sylvester and asked MIN,
Do you want a man like that in business
here?' He sent for Schneider. and in the
presence of Mr.. Maclley Schneider was
asked to make supplemental report.
The board was asked to wait for that re-
port and the board did not do It.
Mr. Horstmann said that Commissioner
hudson had asked him to Keep an eye
open on the police. He also said ne
aad troubles in getting any ruling on
he question of poolrooms in saloons. the
sroper screens. etc. Speaking of the 4oO
Get supposed to separate saloon from
church. Mr.. Horstmann said:
They made the measurement at ran.
:om. Sometimes they took a dlagonai
curse. sometimes one around the cor
.er. The law says, l believe. that the
nleasurement shall be by the course OF
lad measured through fountain.
Mr.. Hogan began his cross-examlnation
at THU, point. asking Mr.. Horstmann why
e objected to oral instructions.
Because there are four individual mem
hers of the board, and objected also 20
letting written instructions hFe weeks
late
WHY didn't YOU complain then?
II was in a subordinate position.
Mr. Hogan asked questions to ind out
shy Mr. Horstmann had gone to various
District officials when he was an en-
ploye of the excise board
Saw Then at the Club.
'oh. 1 didn't have to go out of my way
10 see them / saw Mai. Judson or Gen.
Johnston every day or two at the club. -
Did you talk excise board matters at
he club?'
Mr. Hogan thereupon tried to get Mr..
iiorstmann TO say just when and where
i.c had seen the two commissioners men-
Toned, and spent several minutes In SO
doins, but MIR. Horstmann couldn't be
You said that Commissioner Johnston
toid rou the public wanted to see a good.
lean city government and that you had
two oaths. and that you should do your
iuty under them
Yes. / did"
Did he think there was anything I'M
lean in the city government"
Not that | know of.
He was giving yoH merely good alb
s.Fact advice.
Then enSued another wrestle. Mr..
Hogan did his best to find out whether
Hcrs1mann had started to talk to Com
missioner Judson about excise board
matters or whether Judson had. But II
was OF no avail. Mr.. Hogan got around
10 Commissioner Rudolph:
Another Job for Him,
Il went to see Commissioner Rudolph.
answered Mr.. Horstmann. land ! asked
him in his Office about a golf game We
were going to play. He said then tina,
he had a nice job for me in the Office o,
the health department / said: That