The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1910-01-13
FOREST SERVICE
PAPERS ARE READ
Last Day of the Convention Supervisors For the Fourth District
Conference is Voted Success-Banquet Held
Last Night

District 4. in his talk dealt with the
relation of the forest service to the
several departments and bureaus of
the government and TO states In land
matters He explained the many
changes in procedure necessarily
arising thorcfrom and stated that
since the Forest Service was made
bureau of the agricultural department
by act OF February !. 1905. there had
been mixing OF the Jurisdiction of
the interior and agricultural depart
ments which necessitatcd an under
standing between the two as to the
functions of each The agreement was
to the effect that the secretary OF eg
rlculture would have authority over
grants of rights or privileges within
national forests which do not effect
title 10 the land or cloud the fee,
while the secretary Of the interior
woulG nave Jurisdiction OF matters af-
fecting title to, or easements over
lands within national forests. AT the
suggestion of President Roosevelt,
Secretary Garfield requested that the
forest rangers help to ascertain facts
upon which to determine the validity
Of claims within national forests The
facts reported would go to the special
service division OF the general land
Office for action, and attention was
called TO the fact that the forest SER
vice could not adopt procedure in
such cases. but that 1t must conform
to the instructions and regulations OF
the land Office. Details as to the
manner OF examination and the form
0F IL - L..
structlons which had been formulated
by conference OF representatives OF
the forest service and the general
land Office for action. and attention
was called to tho fact that the forest
service could not adopt procedure In
such cases, but that It must conform
to the Instructions and regulations
Of the lnnd office. Details as to the
manner OF examination and the form
OF reports should conform to the In
structions which had been formulat-
cd by conference Of representatives
Of the forest service and the general
land office
The land grants to the various
states being differently worded In the
enabling acts caused some confusion
as to the rights of the state to un-
surveyed lands within the national
forests. especially In the casc Of land
applied for under the provisions of
the act Of August IS. 1894. giving the
governors OF the land-grant states
right to apply for the survey Of pub
lie lands and reservlng for ninety days
the states right to the first selection
of lands so surveyed. The main con-
fusion, however. was In the attempt
to determine If states actually acquir-
ed rights TO school sections within Ma
tional Forests which were un6urvey-
ed at the time forests were created.
Based upon decisions of the Interior
department and opinions of the attOr-
ney general, the forest service holds
that the states do not acquire rights
to unsuryeyed school sections within
national forests, the forest service
promulgates rule that if such lands
can be identified with reasonable GER
tainby, the government Will not sell
the timber from such lands unless
it is manifestly wasting. or Is dis
eased aud a menace to the forest,
neither Will the service recommend
the listing of such lands under the
provisions OF the act OF June IL. the
Forest Homestead act. unless actually
settled upon by the applicant.
Mr. Hoyt also discussed briefly the
status OF lieu selections pending with
In national forests and called atten-
tlon to the fact that some OF the
states having exhausted their quote
OF lands were under the grants select
lag on the basis OF their indemnity
rights which had tendency to CON
stantly change the status of state
lands within the forests