The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1910-05-06

orally the same result as To conservation
but that you are a lawyer Ike mo and
insist on the legal way. while Pinchot
is impatient OF such restraint ] wish to
secure the high value Of tho service OF
YOU both for the great work before us
Sincerely yours.
"P. S.-Your are at liberty TO publish
tho May letter inclosed as soon as you de-
sire. on second thought. perhaps II
would have more weight If I gave II out
after have given time enough for you
TO receive Il. In other words, ] shall
give it out Wednesday night for Thurs
day morning papers
Silent Under Abuse
BalInser said he had remained silent
under all the abuse and Ind instructed
suit no said. CLAWS bad gone to Golfers
Weekly with what he called his Sour
rilous screed" and which they had re
hashed In the style they usually publish
Asked by his attorney what he meant
by saying his hands had been up for
months" Mr.. Balinger said they had
been mot. only UP but also tied" lie
added: Now | don't want II under
stood | am In any way casting n rehec-
tion on president 10 whom / am de-
voted and for whom ! would make any
sacrifice"
Mr.. Ballinser then read a number OF
kilograms and letters which the de
fcnse" claimed tended to show the exist
Mr.. Balli1fger related an instance OF
what he regarded as NAL administration
Of the forestry burenu under Pinchot. He
said within the last month II had been
called To his attention that S13l 0S0 had
been wnntony wasted on the Menomlnec
Indian reservation in Wisconsin by the
forestry buroam. He said the matter had
been turned over To the Indian office.
After some further questioning Mr.,
Ballingcr made the following statement
10 the committee:
Defies His Enemies.
Every act performed by me as a
public official, either commissioner of
the land office o. secretary OF the interior
has been performed with the idea OF full
nlllnS my trust under my oath and ac-
cordinS TO what ] believed my duty. In
every respect l believe / havo lived up to
II and II a statement has been made
here TO the contrary | want to deny It,.
| defy any one to put his finger on any
thing / have done while I'm the public
service not in line with my duty and with
my trust"
Attorney Braudeis began cross exami-
nation OF Mr.. Ballnger at $3.50 p. IN. Tho
attorney referred to Il lotter Mr.. Bal
llnser wrote to Schwartz stating he de-
sired In the making Of appointments OF
number Of special agents OF the accept
cd class in the Alaskan coal cases. Post
master General Hitchcock should be con-
suited.
Mr. Balllnger said there might be n
number OF candidates and he thought Mr..
1ltchcock might be able To assist IN
choosing the best men.
Mr. Ballinger resented the suggestion
that he wanted TO consult Mr. Hitchcock
merely to make political appointments.
When he refused to make fuller answer,
Mr.. Brandeis appealed TO the committee
to request" the witness TO do So
long argument ensued between Mr.
Brandies and members OF the committee
as TO the propricty of political appoint
ments.
Senator Sutherland said II It was wrong
TO make political appointments he In
tended to get out OF politics
In an effort TO get Mr.. Ballinger to
more fully amplify his answer Mr.. Bran
deis asked II there was any other reason
why Mr.. Hitchcock was consulted,
Declines to Answer.
Il have said all / am going to say
until the committee directs otherwise, "
Mr., Baliinger curtly retorted.
Mr.. Brandes again appealed TO the
committee and Representative Graham
made a motion that the witness be di-
rected to answer the question satisfac-
torily. The motion was lost, s to s,
Representatives Mccall and Madison both
voting with the Democrats.
Having failed to secure an admission
from the secretary that Postmaster Cen
eral Hitchcock dictated the appeals In
his office. Mr.. Brandies took up another
line. He called the witness attention 10
letter written TO Commissioner of the
Land Office bennett last August by Spe-
cial Agent McEnery stating Senator Gug
gcnheIm had called on the president In
behalf Of Dennetts retention as commits
sloncr
"Why was Gpggenhcim so anxious to
have bennett retaincd?" Mr.. Brandies
asked.
''I don't know anything about it," the
witness replied.
Mr. Brandels then read n letter written
by Schwartz to Don c. Carr. or Ballin-
gers private secretary. explaining vir-
tually II was the same as though written
to Mr. Ballinger.
THAT Isn't true" Mr.. Ballinger inter-
rupted hotly, II never saw that letter.
You are wrong as usually you have been
In this entire hearing.
Mr. Brandeis smiled amably.
''Pll try TO be more nearly right here
after, Mr.. Secretary" he returned.
"fn your direct testimony you used the
expression In reference TO CLAWS, lie
had not been hampered but on the con-
trary had been pampered,' in his conduct
of the Cunningham case What did you
mean by 'pampered?'"
Says That CLAWS Loafed.
Simply that CLAWS had trined with
the case. He was given every assistance,
all the time he wanted and all the men
he asked for but he did not make the
kind OF progress he should have made"
II understood that, 'pampered' had a
different meaning
81 cant understood what things seem
TO you. CLAWS was too well treated. He
loafed on the Job and did not complete
the work he ought to have cleaned up"
when you returned TO Washington last
summer from the west l believe you gave
out newspaper interview in which you
said. incidentally / propose to kin few
snakes "
A flicker of smile crossed the witness
face,
81 believe l made that remark. but not
for publication"
Questioned as TO when he first learned
OF Glaviss charges against him, Mr.. Bal
llnger replied From the presidents let
ter"
But you started out TO kill the snake
CLAWS before that. didn't your
81 had made UP my mind that CLAWS
ought to be killed as snake before
that"
Reading from a letter written by
Schwartz to one of the special agents OF
the land office, Mr.. Brandeis quoted a
statement by Schwartz that no would quit
the service II a man could remain in II
who had been unwilling to accept the
Judgment OF the president final.
Doesn't that letter represent the de-
partment's attitude toward all who won't
accept the finality of the PRESIDENT"
mo, There sits one over there now
pointing to Special Agent II. #. Jones,
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