The Detroit times., 1910-06-01
1 FAVORABLE
! N. U. R. GRANT
( men Opposed To Complaining
action Situation With Franchise
For Single Line.


tanee to the city for its interurban
ystem at this time was shown in the
fleeting OF the council franchises
ommittee. Tuesday morning. This
spite OF the fact that Sanford W.
|.ladd, general counsel for the conf
AMY and the petitioner for the fran
Mise. displayed a disposition to con.
iderahly modify the terms Of the
rant sought In favor Of the city.
, Most Of the committee members
nd other aldermen present expressed
themselves as OF the opinion that this
not an opportune time to compli-
to the street railway situation by
anting q franchise for single line.
view OF the fact that a general
ttlement may be had, either by an
sreement with the ID. U. X. or by
ioption of municipal ownership,
,veral advanced the idea that 1t
ould not be best to submit the NJ.
r. proposition separately to the
eople .aph In advance OF the others.
Al4NGutman proposed compro.
LIS rap which was taken under adj
seinen and which may prove a so
'luon. AS proposal is that the NJ. U.
n. enter intc~en agreement with the
ty whereby, II the city decides on
!. inicipal ownership, the NJ. U. X.
Il sell it's city line TO the municipal
al cost, less depreciation, with
larantee from the city that the M.
r. be allowed to use This line for
4 . interurban cars at a fair rental
y ttorney Ladd stated that he would
A Ike this up with the NJ. U. X. direct
70 and the aldermen will refer IL 10
orporation Counsel Hally for his
pinion as to whether the city can
egally enter into such a contract.
1T seems to me that such plan
sould be fair to both city and COM
pany." said Gutman.
II was made plain that the council
ommittee considers only two OF tire
IL optional routes submitted by the
NJ. u. r. for its entrance line as teas
lie. One OF these would be the line
own Livernois and Michigan-aves.,
lille the other is the proposed ilne
Sown Junction-ave. and Fort-st. Eth-
\. OF these would require use OF
rect now used by the ID. U. X. The
Their routes were dismissed as me-
eing desirable, those including La
ayette boulevard being particularly
upon.
At the beginning Of the session, At
tcrney Laid told the aldermen mat
the NJ. u. r. considers the three es'
sential points to be rate OF fare. con-
ditions as to foundations and paving
and length OF franchise.
I'VE have offered you a rate OF
fare Of eight tickets for quarter,
good "a hours In the day." he said. IN
substance. THAT Is as low as you can
get You will not get any
TRnN lower even under municipal
tI4l rship. We will pay for the founda-
sNa but expect the city to pay for
heWhying. since that Is used by all
-indyof trSrel. We must have a long
.nough grant to warrant the invest
,hent OF this amount of capital. II is
hot practical for us to enter the city
byer a leased line or a line OF another
COMPANY"
eve want all franchises cotermin-
ous," declared Aid. Tossy. I'VE do not
ant any franchises running beyond
4 "a"
1T will not do the city much good
yet three-cent fares on this line. III
ople do not get transfers TO other
y les. said Chairman HARPER. They
yould come down town on your line
J id have to pay another fare TO ride
I, their destination on another line.
This line would do no good to the east
lrn and northern sections OF the city,
Then Laid sprang one of the trad
ing points" of the franchise. He In
B,Icated that he was willing to have
provision In the M. u. X. franchise
IDENTICAL with that in the franchise OF
ae present three-cent lines by which
I would have TO exchange transfers
18th any other lines which will ac-
ord the same privilege.
III that is put in this franchise, you
an lose nothing by allowing us this
me-" he asserted. The ID. u. r. will
compelled to exchange transfers
B fth rs on the three-cent lines. No
latter what settlement Is effected,
e will still exchange transfers with
her lines. You can put that pro-
sion for exchange OF transfers in all
uture franchises"
He showed that the NJ. U. X. has
oeen. Looking into the local situation
ulM b. discussing the expiration
III ID r. franchises In Michigan.
40 the status of the remaining
XnchiNs in other main streets.
nE.WhH on't you take the bull by the
10 } AIR offer us general settle.
ment along the lines of this franchise,
with three-cent fares?" inquired Aid.
link.
1--WE are not asking for more than
pue line" parried Ladd.
eyes, but would you accept a gen.
eral franchise on the terms you have
offered for this line?" inquired Aid.
Gilman.
'No, we are not seeking that" re-
piled Ladd decisively. Il do not
think Il could be done"
He went on to open the way for
furtha modification of the M. U. r.
Franchise by saying that the company
had cut what II wanted in Its petition
and nat It was up to the council to
prooose any changes for the better
rnert Of the draft from the city's
STANDPOINT.
eau this amounts to IL that you
would bring In lot of people from
Dutside," said one alderman. 1T
Svould not benefit our people any"
III would benefit the merchants"
ketorted Aid. Owen.
A dozen aldermen had gathered
AROUND the committee table before the
session was concluded and a general
debate ensued. Aid. HARPER, Korte
and some OF the others showed that
they did not feel like taking any final