Los Angeles herald., 1910-07-15
OFFICIALS UNABLE To
AGREE ON BRIDGE PLAN
Structure to Cross Arroyo Seco
West of Pasadena Subject
of Controversy

who is passing the summer in Cata-
lima, and who makes mid-week trips
to Pasadena, was interviewed yester-
day or the Arroyo bridge question. In
regard to the proposed W.lliams-Nish- |
khan bridge from West Colorado street
across to near the top of the Scoville
grade, he said:
"I will be willing to donate land for
a road or approach to the bridge on
the San Rafael Heights side If neces-
sary, or If the structure does not end
near my property I will contribute
cash along with other property own
ers of the district to help defray the
expense of the bridge, thus cutting
down the amount necessary to be
asked by bond issue The making of
direct route from West Colorado street
across the arroyo would not be of
material benefit to my property, al
though it would help some, but the
benefit to the travelling public would
be great The low bridge with its
treacherous turns is out of the ques-
ton. I favored the original high bridge
at first, but so long as the committee
and the county highway commission
have approved the intermediate bridge
plans | am for that structure. Any |
thing so we can connect the san
Gabriel and San Fernando valleys by
a practically direct route from Colo
RADIO street. This thoroughfare should
be opened up on the west as well as
on the other end and make a practical
line from towns on the east to towns
along the beaches. With the inter-
mediate bridge all travel over that
route would be through the center of
the city,
COUNCIL INSPECTs ROUTES
A conference between city officials
and members of the board of trade
bridge committee was held in the Ar
royo yesterday and the party went
over the proposed routes in detail. |
The city was represented by Mayor
Farley. Councilmen Barnes, Cattell, !
Fogg, Hotaling and Korstian and City |
Engineer Van Ornum. Those repre- |
senting the board of trade were Chair |
man Knight of the bridge committee !
Secretary Bertonneau, c. D. Daggett
Ed T. Off and J. c. Brainard. Messrs
Williams and Nishkian, who designed
the intermediate bridge, were present |
by invitation of Mayor Farley.
At the outset board of trade mem |
hers insisted that the poles set by the !
city engineer to designate the est1-
mated height of the intermediate !
bridge were too high. It was decided !
to have the height checked by Will |
liams and Nishkian. When it came
to going over the ground of the pro- |
posed route of the approach to the |
Scoville or low bridge, members of the
board of trade who have studied the
question for several months before
they decided on the intermediate
bridge, declared the trip was not neces-
sary
This led Mayor Farley to remark:
1--WE should investigate every phase
of the question while We are on the
ground 7 may favor the low bridge
and board of trade may favor the in
termedate structure. 1t is all right for
us to adhere to our opinions, but we
are here to put both propositions
plainly before the city council mem
bers, who are the ones to decide which
shall be put up to the voters
To this plan all agreed.
Little attention was paid to the in
termedate bridge site owing to the
fact that all present had discussed the
plans before Mayor Farley and City
Engineer Van Ornum took the party
over the low bridge route foot by foot.
IT was pointed out that the first OBJ
stacle to be overcome would be the
question of damages to the Richard
son property, where the low bridge
would land on the Pasadena side, MAX
ing the removal of some stone work
necessary. The road would run from
the bridge almost due west through
the ScoVille orange grove for some
distance it being explained that Mr..
Scoville probably would exchange the
necessary land for the fifty-foot sec
tion of the Arroyo drive alongside. A
slight fill would he necessary at the
lower end of the orchard, which would
make the road practically level to
point 300 feet west. Here it would turn
north with a radius of lS0 feet, run
ming almost straight to the present
junction Of Arroyo drive and Linda
rrrI,l IN
be widoned to swing onto the pres
ent route by way of Grand avenue to /
Colorado street The grade from the
turn to tho junction would be 8 per
cent and would require fill of from
fifteen to sixteen feet according to
Van Ornum. No estimate OF the cost
of this fill or the high retaining wall
necessary along Arroyo drive was
made.
PARTY NOT UNANIMOUS
When the party reached the top of
the hill at Grand and Linda Vista
avenues after tramping through dust
and weeds and over walls and fences
the members voted unanimously to
take a rest. although they We're not
unanimous on the bridge question.
Board of trade members alluded to the
route Just travelled as Figure eight
roller coaster and agreed that for
q trip over the proposed road i'm an
automobile. Mayor Farley declared
that the turns and grades would not
interfere with ordinary traffic.
"There isn't one automobile in twen-
ty but what can travel the route at
the speed limit" he said "and, fur
thermOre, the main traffic VIII not go
over the arroyo They win all want
to take in the Arroyo drive when the
boulevard plan is worked out"
j. c. Brainard replied that the only
way a stranger could be directed over
the proposed route would be by means
of a diagram or the assistance Of an
escort Councilman Cattell cndeavOred
to straighten out the tangle from the
standpoint of a disinterestcd party, he
having been absent from the city dur
ing the time since the intermediate
bridge was brought into the question:
but his efforts to crystallize sentiment
in favor of one or the other seemed
unavailing. Mark Williams of the firm
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