The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-04-15
SQUABBLE OVER
CARNEY ORDINANCE
Members of Council Committee on
Franchises, After Much Talk, Hold
Up Decision for Week.

! A meeting of the council committee
OIL franchises will be held Monday
evening in the council chamber 10
/ listen TO statements In regard TO I'M
proyements In street railway service
Ia the Milwaukee-Junction and adjoin-
! ing factory district. The looping o.
| the Brush line with the Fourteenth
| line on BeauOien-st., and the building
I OF line on Grandy-ave. 10 be looped
with the Chenest. line are the matters
that will be open for discussion.
These are the only extensions which
! the ID. L. X. is willing 10 make a. this
time, except the Hamilton boulevard
! line.
! The Garyey resolution and ordi-
nance, by which 1t is sought to get
better cars and service on the three
cent lines. under threat of repeating
/ the Detroit Railway ordinance. was
considered but no report was reached,
and IL will be considered again next
week. II was plain that the Republi-
cans scented political motive in the
measure and proceeded To shoot holes
| In II, although intimating that they
will yet put ii up fo- passage.
! Secretary f. X. Schreiter read the
resolution which recites that the pro-
visions of the Detroit Railway ordi-
nance requiring the company TO fur
nlsh clean cars OF modern designs and
10 give a service that Will not require
overcrowding have been contravened
and giving the ID. u. X. 80 lays notice
TO improve conditions.
we have passed every Democratic
measure that has been put up to us"
remarked Aid. owen, to open the dis
cussion "Ex-Mayor Thompson got any.
thing he wanted from the council,
while We have not done everything
that Mayor Breitmeyer wanted. |
move that we pass this"
Mayor Breitmeyer asked that the
measure be postponed until the present.
negotiations are completed, but with
drew this suggestion later. Aid. Gar
vey explained that all that he and Cor
poration Counsel Hally ask is that the
resolution be passed and the ordinance
laid on the table for 80 days
I'VE do not complain so much about
the service as about the TACT that the
cars are dirty" asserted Aid. Gutman.
NO cattle dealer would ship stock
In such cars as we have on the Sher-
man line" chimed in Garvey. Il know
OF one accident where q rotten running
board gave away and a lady was seri-
ously injured"
! Aid. Tossy then moved that the com
mittee report favorably on the reso-
idtion and ordinance. This motion
was repeated from time TO time and
finally amended 10 call for a weeks
/ delay. Mayor Breitmeyer broke in to
remark that conditions had been bad
on the three-cent lines and getting
steadily worse He wanted to know
why this course of action lad not been
proposed long ago instead Of just AT
this time.
rs II not true that II this ordinance
is passed. the ID L. r. can let its fran
chise lapse?' inquired Aid. Vernon.
Who will fix the rate OF fare them"
They cannot charge any more than
the rate fixed by the common council"
replied Hally.
This brought on q dispute between
Vernon and Hally as to whether tho
city could enforce rate of fare. Aid.
Ellis broke In to intimate that. even
II the franchise lapsed and the council
passed new ordinance. the u. l.. r.
could take the matter into the courts
and keep il there, charging five-cent
fare on the three-cent lines in the
meantime.
Il would draw up the ordinance in
such form that the litigation would be
burdensome to them retorted Haly.
They would have TO barter with every
passenger for his fare. II a passenger
we're put off, he could sue in the
courts. They would have a great many
suits. AS long as there are courts, the
d. u. r. will go to them. We have
been going to court now for 10 or 20
years and We shall be just as long as
the d. t. r. is on the other side"
II want to find out If this Is an
octual attempt to better service or
political game" remarked Aid Korte,
who soon got into wordy battle with
Garvey and Hally on the question.
Then Aid Vernon brought out the
point that the city would have to file
suits. instancing individual cases OF
poor service. Aid Rutter asked some
questions OF Hally which brought out
that e. the very least two years would
be required to try such suits, and that
II might then be necessary 20 bring
other suits.
Even II 9Ou pass the ordinance,
there Is no limit TO that" said Hally.
After all this argument, the alder
men were considerably at sea aid the
weeks interval for consideration was
agreed on. The startling question was
brought out I'm the melee that some
windows ON Fourteenth-st. line cars
had been washed since the resolution
and ordinance were introduced.
When the matter of extensions came
up Aid. HARPER read letter from
the ID. U. r.. outlining plans for i'm
proving the service of the Brush and
Chene lines by extensions Aid. Gut.
man declared that he would never
consent TO the re-routing plan by
which the Brush and Beauben lines
would be looped. and also the Hagtings
and Russell lines
Frank STANDARD. president Of the
Milwaukee Junction Manufacturers as
lsociation, argued that the Brush and
Chene line plans be carried out at
once
Give us relief and then you can go
along and delay the general settlement
a. long as vCu WISH" he told the alder
men. But we can't wait until he'll
freezes over for these extensions to
get our people 10 and from work"
American consul.General Dies.
HONG KONG. April 15.-An opera.
ton for appendicitis resulted today I'm