The Pensacola journal. (Pensacola, Fla.) 1898-1985, 1910-03-05
Pinchot Reiterates
That Ba11inger Has
Deceived President
Continued from First Page.)

Mr.. Ballinger's letter to the president
of November Is, with which he en-
closed Ronald's letter. These letters
contain mistatements which I have
already shown and am prepared fur
| Their to show"
Mr.. Vertrees: '~You have testified
here largely by Inference and inuen-
| do Now state what you personally
know Mr. Ballinger said or did"
Mr. Pinchot: 1.-THE letter of Novem-
| Der H."
| Mr.. vertrees: "What else?"
NEVER DISCUSSED CASES.
Mr.. Pinchot: "I never discussed the
| Cunningham cases with Mr.. Balling-
| err The only knowledge I have at
| first hand is limited to writings thAt
are not disputed"
| Questioned as to the reprimand he
gave Assistant Law Officer Shaw and
| Assistant Forester Price, Mr.. Pinchot
admitted that "at heart he approved
| of the motives of the two in doing
what they did but did not approve
| of their method of doing it.
Mr.. Pinchot denied that either he
| or any of his people owned stock in
| the fPocahontas Goal Company.
TThe family has some stock in a.
| coal company in Illinois," he added.
/ ''but have not"
! { Mr.. Pinchot said that up to the
time he sent CLAWS TO President
| Taft the relations between himself
and Mr.. Ballinger had been fairly
/ friendly, not more than that"
[ He was not more friendly because
he knew Mr.. Ballinger's views as to
conservation were different from his
/ own.
"Then you were unfriendly?"
4 mo, l distrusted him"
II "You mean distrusted his policies"
i 81 distrusted his policies and what
he would do
1 so, Mr.. Pinchot," said Mr.. Yer
trees, "after all that statement you
made to the committee when you took
the stand, all you can cite against
Mr.. Ballinger of your knowledge is
the letter of November Is to the pres
ident?"
TO PROVE CHARGES.
81 said I expected to prove some
of the things I charged by other wit
nesses''
Referring to his testimony that Mr..
Ballinger, as commissioner Of the
land office. protested against the crea-
ton of the Chugach forest in Alaska
in which some of the Cunningham
claims are located, Mr.. Pinchot said
he had never read Mr.. Ballinger' s
letter of protest and did not know
what reasons he gave in the let
ter.
Mr.. Vertrees: Don't you think II
would have been only fair to have
read it before submitting it here with
the differences that might be drawn
from your testimony"
= Mr.. Pinchot: "My knowledge of Mr.
Ballinger's position was based on an
interview with him in Mr.. Garfield's
/ office and I understood it to be hostile
to what we have since come to call
conservation"
Mr.. Pinchot declared that while the
letter of protest had been on file with
the committee for some time, a regu
lation of the committee permitted
counsel only to examine the docu
ments had prevented his reading it
A long discussion ensued as to the
modification of this rule but the mat
ter was put over for decision in e1ecu
tive session.
Mr. Pinchot was asked to read the
, letter. When he had concluded, Mr.
Vertrees asked:
! Does that letter indicate hostility
to the general policy of conserva
:. tion?"
In my judgment It does.
Point out a single statement II
that effect"
Mr.. Pinchot said it was impossible
to take Judgment on a single state
ment, the whole thing had to be takel
. together. The witness was asked j
I it was not known when Mr.. Garfield
I withdrew the huge tracts of land 70
e water power sites. that nine-tenths o
= the lands so withdrawn were no
needed and would have to be restor
ed. Mr.. Pinchot said he did not know
the exact figures. He would not ad
nit that the large withdrawals were
l more than necessary. The withdraw
ais were made large because there
had not been time to make a proper
) investigation.
The witness frankly stated that ;
had been his policy to withdraw land
; for forest ranger stations, when the!
; were not needed for that purpose
but were withdrawn to protect posi-
bic power sites.
$50 that was your policy and Sec
| rotary Garfeld's?"
u Yes. and President Roosevelt's AM