The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1910-06-20
Carl PEN TERS
M A X E A
REPLY

Editor Standard In answer to an
article published In the Standard of
yesterday and headed. Carpenters
VIII Not Work" will say that while
VIC may be pack of undesirables In
the sight Of the petty firm OF archi-
tects signing their names Shreeve &
Madsen, we arc glad to know that
the chief detective and his sleuths
have been unable so far TO catch us
in the act and until some such thing
does happen, we viii simply consider
the source of the noise
In the first place. we will ask, who
Is this firm of Shreeye & Madsen?
Isn't it possible that they are the
same ones who, but q few short
months ago. We saw doing porter
work for real firm OF architects In
this city. Their faces somehow look
familiar, but up TO the time of their
FIRST writing the general public didn't
know there was such firm. Now.
this union docs not want to put them
as we think We have given
our employers ample time
"at least seventy days"-to
consider our demands and 10 make
preparations for such demands. and
We have in no way acted disrespect-
fully toward any of them, and this poll
cy must be carried out In the future
We have stated before that we hold
no ill-will toward our former employ
erS, and extend their right so for as
we are concerned to do just as they
please in the matter. and only reserve
the right to do the same We are not
In any need OF the likes OF such ma
terial as Shreeve & Madsen TO help
US We were under the impression
whom We read the first article that
possibly there were some real archi-
tects having something TO do with
said article, but upon investigation
by this committee We found that 1t
was simply Shreeve 3 Madsen. the
preteDders, and also that the real
architects were too busy attending TO
their own affairs to mix up with tho
undesirable element of Ogden.
Now. Mt Editor, we still claim that
eight months per year Is a high aver
age for all journeymen carpenters In
Ogden, and the figures furnished by
Mr. Humphris Is the account of eight
VI luR UtSl LutCudulto III luC Cllg W
day, and who were working for a
man who was foresighted enough to
plan his work for winter so as to
keep this class of men In his service
This is not the case with any other
crew In Ogden, and we Will challenge
the so-called firm Of Shreeye & Mad
sen To show us any other contractors
in this city who can produce such an
account and will only ask them for
four instead of eight. We also fail
to find a very large number Of our
contractors on the list as charity
givers, and those who are kept on
tho job when work IS light arc e1-
pected to make up for IL at another
time. And as to giving local carpen-
ters preference to fioaters. 1t Is
common duty they owe to this city
and themselves, as we'll as their en-
ployes.
This union is not asking charity;
they want only what Is due them,
and claim they are asking no more
when they ask for scale for jour
neymen carpenters fifty cents less
than the same class of men receive In
Salt Lake City and nearly all the sur
rounding country. And as to these
so-called architects knowing when
work is right or wrong. how could 1t
be possible for them without any
practical experience to know any
thing about anything. We don't
think they are capable Of building
anything unless 1t be fire. as we be-
lieve they have done while working
under one OF the real architects few
months ago. as stated before.
Now. Mr.. Editor, this union
through their committee, wishes to
inform the general public that they
stand willing to leave this whole mat
ter to their Judgment. II they think
that the heads OF 124 families and
their families now trying to make an
honorable living In ogden are of the
undesirable class, we would kindly
ask them to so state In the deading
papers. which. by the way, are de-
llyered daily to nearly every carpen-
ter In the city, and we Will endeavor
to get out OF your midst at once and
make more room for such desirableS
as "Shreeye & Madsen, the archl-
tects (O."
p. S-The carpenters of Ogden are
still In possession of funds enough to.
run a two-ipch ad in the columns of
our leading papers for at least one
month for the benefit of said above
so-called-if this is what they are
after (Signed)
H L. PEEMAN,
II. WHITE. JR.,
ED MASTERS,
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