The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1910-03-06

Mr. Vertrees said he was trying 70
bring out tho fact that Mr.. Pinchot's
charges were largely the result OF sus-
piclons and the Resentment that rises in
the bosom OF a discharged public GER
want"
Mr. Vertrees said he sought to show
also that II Mr.. BalllnGer chanced In any
way TO make n mlsstatcment. based on
his best knowledge and belief, IL WIS "a
deception OF tho president" whereas mis-
statements made TO the president by the
witness were "unsimplc mistakes.
Mr. Pinchot declared that the number
and compleXlty Of the documents sub
nobody In his position could have consid-
cred every phase OF the question.
1T was a picture puzzle declared the
witness.
Vexatious Delays.
Representative Madison expressed him
self as getting tired OF having witness
interpret documents for him and he pro-
tested vigorously against counsel on both
sides calling tho attention Of witnesses
TO written documents and asking them TO
construc these documents.
Proceed said Chairman Nelson,
well get along tho best way we can
MIR Vertrccs finally switched 10 Mr.,
Plnchots motives In writing the letter to
Senator Dolliver which caused his re-
moval
81 wrote It because I thought 1t wise
that the cases OF Mcssrs. Price and Shaw
should be presented at the same time as
Mr. Wickcrshams defense OF Mr.. Bal
me to"
"Did you consider whether or not that
letter would cause your removal by the
PRESIDENT"
''I thought ~ was about an even chance
whether would be removed or not"
And you decided to take the chancc?''
Eyes"
"You wrote that letter rather than re-
sign, although the relations between you
and the president were as cordial as the
letters introduced here have shown
II had told the president l would not
resign
The cross examination closed with the
statement by MIR, Pinchot that he was
not aware OF any movement, having
for it's purpose tho removal OF Secretary
Ballingcr
Attorney Pepper conducted n brief re-
direct examination Of the witness.
Picking Up Odd Ends,
To make Mr.. Pinchots position entire
" clear Mr. Pepper asked him II his in
formation regarding Mr.. Ballinger had
all been gained from documents and
statements OF other witnesses.
with one exception that Is true.
What Is the exception" asked Sena-
tor Nelson.
II learned from Mr.. BaliinEer himself
his attitude against the leasing of coal
lands"
Senator Fletcher, at tho beginning Of
the afternoon session, questioned Mr.
Pnchot regarding the general operation
Of tho forestry service. The senator de-
clared the committee was charged with
the Investigation Of the forest service
and he desired TO get something OF It's
methods into the record.
Senator Nelson interrgatea Mr. Pip
chot as to the water power sites and
spoke Of the famous James river. Mis-
souri, water power bin. which President
Roosevelt vetoed.
I'D like to ask a personal question
but l won't" concluded Senator Mel
SON
Go ahead" said Mr.. Pinchot.
Did you Induce President Roosevelt
to send in that veto messege?'
II don't know II l induced IT," re-
piled Mr.. Pnchot amid laughter. but
1 certainly advised him to-
II might go further and ask II you
wrote the message or gave the infcr-
nation upon which IL was written"
continued Senator Nelson
THAT. senator. I'm afraid comes with
In the prohibition of the committee as
10 conversations with the president"
Representative james, would suggest
that II we are to investigate Mr.. Roose-
velt we ought TO give him n chance 10
be present.
Graham Is Sarcastic.
Representative Graham-He'll proba-
bly, be back before We get through and
can speak for himself.
The room was in uproar OF laughter
at this unusual colloQuy.
Mr.. Pinchot finally was excused from
the stand at $50 p. M. and former Sec
retary OF the Interior James r. Garfield
was called.
After being sworn. Mr. Garfield went