The evening world., 1910-12-02


Knapp. r. n. Hitchcock and W. II. Rey-
nolds.
q, 1s that the MIR, Knapp who IL a
member OF the state Racing Commits.
slon7 A. Yes.
q. In les what expenses wero there TO
apportlon7 A. ! don recall. There was
the $1,000 OF that $4,000.
q. Besides this s3i, 90 how much had
the racing associations pald2 a. ! have
no knowledge.
@. In a~pportioning this 81 900 dld you
take into consideration what the various
associations had already paid A. Yes.
sir.
They All Contributed.
y. How many OF the racing asso,.-
at'ons contributed IN his $1,000? A..
SiN all but the Brighton Beach and the
Westchester Racing Association. The
Westo1.ter Association had already
paid more than It's proportion.
q. So. there were seven that actually
contributed. Now In IA letter to Mr.,
Reynolds you mention $1,000 as the
proportion the Metropolitan Racing As.
ISOLATION "a to pay. That was tho
PTppOfllDn tuCu OF inc seven bNSOlla
atoms paid was 1t not? a. Yes, that or
more.
The books of the Jockey club showed
that in 1861 and 1908 the Metropolitan
Jockey Club paid to the Jockey club
about tsI, "a As there were seven con.
tTbutIons. the fund, according to MIR
Daingerfiold's figures. was ct least Sos
DGO.
Z. In 1913 the Metropolitan paid II. 1O4,
having twenty-five racing days. how
much would the Coney Island and
Brooklyn and Westminster Jockey
Clubs have been required TO pay on that
basis? A About siS,D0 each
q. The Saratoga and the other tracks.
with twenty-five days OF racing, about
$4,000? a. Yes.
q. AND the Brighton ~Bench-with
twenty-eight d~ays-about $1,000. :.
Yes.
O. Then there was also ,ie $4,000
fund? \. Yes.
q Was any other fund ppportioned o.
IA ise-i? A. These are Only ones | nave
any knowledge OF.
Saw Coyne /, Albany.
q. DO you know whether MIR. Coyne
was employed by any racing association
In 1903? y. | have "A general knowledge
that lac was. / saw him In Albany APP
pearing before committees In opposition
to the racing bills.
John j. Evans. treasurer Of the book
makers. testified that he had been IN
the real estate business, on and on"
for fifteen years.
y. Werc you ever "A bookmakSrH
A. About thirteen years ago.
y. How long have you been a member
Of the Metropolitan Turf Association?
A.. Eight years.
q. 50 YOU are IN fact u layer OF odds9
A. \ layer and player.
. 80 that IN addition to your real
estate business You have these other ven.
lures? A.. n you'd call them ventures.
-. You wouldn't call 1t a profession?
A. Some do.
.. AZ treasurer Of the Metropolitan
Turf Association do you keep any bank
accounts? \. Yes. sir.
q. Have you seen Mr.. Tim Sullivan.
the secretary. recently? A. | saw him
about six weeks ago and he told me
he was going South for his health.
q. You have beon subpoenaed to pro-
due call the books of the Metropolitan
Turf Association. Where are they?
4. We have no such books. We never
kept books.
q. Did YOU ever have any books? y,
No. sir.
NY w W. - WI
were kept when | FIRST became treas
urer. but We changed our policy.
BY persistent questioning Mr.. Eresei
brought out the fact that t1ere had
been two memorandum books.
Q. How long has 1t been since YOU
seen those booka? A.. About two
years ago.
q. That was right after the passage
OF the Agnew-Hnrt bill? A. Probably.
@. SO that after the passage ~ the
bill you changed your sys-
TEN and the books disappeared? a. Yes.
Evans said that the only assessments
ever levied were to pay benefits 10
widows or members, Orlando Jones,
former treasurer, on Nov. Is testified
that he paid to n fun %
oppose the ambling bills In 1905.
Just Kept Quiet.
VIVA ala you gentlemen do TO OPP
these hills?" ASKED Kacscl.
Kept quiet"
q. Did You hire any lawyers 10 pre-
sent your Views To the Legislature? A..
No, sir.
.. what ala you hire lawyers for? 4.
After the passage OF the bills We hired
lawyers 60 defend our members,
q How much did you pay out to
lawyers' \, ON June ii | paid ont
H@.0D 20 several lawyers.
q. When We're the bills passed? \.
June II.
9. 70 whom ala you pay this money?
\. Davis. stone n Auerback, and Nicoll,
Anable and Lindsay.
GLOW did yOu refresh your mem
ory as To these names? A.-trom
checkbook
Q.-iiayo YOU your che rSbook running
pack TO Jan, !, l90S? A--Nu. got a
now book In May, 1905, / didn't like the
old form OF check.
Q.-HoS IN" association any other
SOURCES % revenue than lis ASSESS