The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1910-11-22
HARDEST BLOW FOR ASQUI1H
I iNSIbDH NJ mas 4 PItN 40
NETTIE LORDS iETO.
rlhIrai MINISTERIAL rtan> Z tr,et b An
n"urrrrlrni in I Iss,rr ilotissr- t:o, rrn-
mrEl Tears Voters Wa, IKE l'nianl,t
rruI,o>ai i.oiislun t.rratb Excited.

PROPOSAL i.oIsiun Grratp ENriir,i.
-r..,. ,.Ar o. ,psichr, =. THs S,,~
1psruN. NOV - The announcement
.- 'o-i l.ausCluwne in the Horse nf Lortls
...,. ".'rtnE that he would present a series
r,.. nh.rlnrs dealing with the manner vt
-.i'|ur differences between tho two
..r..- 4 Parliament has stirred political
m l,- new II wa~ said last night iha,
%. 20 .ui',r~ VIII tc the final ptup,slI~
.f o., -I.ni"i Leaders ~ presented AZ the.
.,l,-' ,urtrr,u"" b-twe,n the rival
Whether III" h" 'r'!" OF not th..
Or from l.LH>downr cam" ~ u
s.rprI-.'. aud for the moment ~
..E.. D. n.rr-hH'irw all uth.r features 81
'... unhriral controversy
N"'. n"TS -; ihC InInUI~t urraalyltII
n-.r' thlI m" PROPOSALS will proiMIualN
.".pr"-- the Cu,Etrv and viii aNnri an
.,r>nt.'"lv fair working basis Tor th.
settling " party differences They wou.i
.--ansH u - urged an ordered COnStitI-
t...n. based as IN that of the United States
and other great nations. upon certain
fundamental guarantees
The attitude of the Ministers and the
Liberal press toward the suggestion in
dCates that they fear that the country
NAV take this attitude. This means that
they fear the electors NAV prefer l.ans-
downe plan to that which - adv oCated
~ the Government
Tie launching OF the new plan came is
a complete surprise To IN. upper house
andN disconnected the c,Istomarily calm
atmosphere there into one approaching
excitement The Liberal leaders were
taken entirely unawares In" Earl Il
'rew. asked If the resolutions were in
tended as amendments To the Gov "rn-
msnt's bill
Lord Lansdownc did not reply. hut the
Marquis Of Salisbury eagerly springing
~ ms feet said: We move an ad iournmeui
~ this time because Ar. not allowed
n discuss this veto bill IN the ordinary
way. II we are not allowed 10 explain
our proposals after the second reading
we will explain them before
Amid unusually ferVent cheers from
the Unicnist peers Lord Salisbury d.-
Jared that the Government demand
that tn. Lords sav nothing hut YES or no
a. the second reading placed III" orposi-
ton III an in,ol.rabl' position
1T means h. cont inued, closure and
me guIlo-Inc for the Hous. of Lords by
the U.s.. of the ROYAL prerogatIvc for IN.
,lssolu' ION Of Parliament
81 this point Lord Rossbery entered
.h- dehat" He E~ked with grave aarn"~r-
'..S. who's" was tine fCuls that an unpra"-
.dew"d position had arisen
Who's. - Tho fault n" demanded
Is 4 that Of IN. Jnionsts?7
Turning to IN" ministerial p"or- n"
ant on. You 10 NOT seem TO realize
bar YOU ~" doing. You ar" attempting
- abolish on" uf 'h' -'st at"-, OF III" realm
hoTt subs. ,ruIing anything for u
e clalal rhn right 20 employ IN" f"w
."Uair'ag hours which "" ar" told ""
have M. riEh' TO live To- the be-t purposs
We viii not allow any "th"r interest
'yu.orrid-. that right nr allow this ancient
ass.nhlr 10 be- I"t"rrrd from presenting
., Ca-. - N. country Nor will We ~
aged 10y an uItra-L,heral maIur.tv'
Hi- utt.ranCss were greeted 10y pro-
nged Unonl-t cheers a. h" resumed ira
s-a,
LONDON. Nov. u In IN. Hous" 81
Lords this evening IN. Eirl nf Cr"w". N"
government leader Ia the second cham
i"r, IN moving the second reading ~ tn"
Parliament or Lords veto hill "ypT"ssed
the opinion that one Of the reasons why IA"
citation of tho two houses had reached
ne present condition of perpetual con
flcr might he traced Ia tho genera
decline and final abandonment nf the
old time practice 81 conferences be
tween the House of Lords and the
House Of Commons Tn. revival OF tins
practice. he said. was the very ess"nc"
~ the Government proposals.
Lord Lansdowne. the Opposition
leader IN reply referred - IN" attitude
II the Government IN refusing I" allow
the bill to b. amended. " an amen drnent
were allowed Lord Lansdown" said a
considerable number If peers would favor
the second reading of tn" hill.
He moved tina, IN" debate he adjourned
until Wednesday, when. h" said h." oro
posed TO submit resolutions dealing with
the manner in which d.adlncks b. tween
the two houses could be- setrI 81
These resolutions. he said. provide IN
case OF differences on other than money
bills for their reference TO n Joint sitting
gravity for their submission 20 a decision
= the electors by referendum
The resolutions also provide in regard |
~ money nils thar the Lords shall aban- |
don their right 20 amend or reject on con |
d!tion that provision IL mad" against
'aCkng any amendment on an nN- |
'ran-ous matter and that any question |
unIch may a-is" shall b" referred To- a |
J.U' committee Of both houses. the |
~ceak"r Of IN" Commons a. chairman
-4vIng the casting Of rh" deciding vote.
Lord 1AnSdpwne- motion - ad louru |
ne debate carried