The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1910-12-20
DIFFER ABOUT CHURCH UNITY
DIR. HENRY TaN DYkE DOt mrs
IRIS I.iItE.
says 30 NJ Luncheon sf Pr~sb, f~rtan Min
,sters at which Dr. ". 7. Manning 10
Trinity Plead, for the Visible Church
tis,biy Bound rssethrr In ITS WORK.

noctrinal d'Hsrsn0cs cane OFT ye-ter,
day AT ~. annual luncheon Of tho Pres
byterian ministers from round about
The talk was of Church unity and a dis
agreement over II on tn" part of the Rev
DIR. William I. Manning. rector ~ TRINITY
Church and tho Rev. DR. Henry van
Dyke, who declines to he pastor OF the
Brick Church. mad" N" la5 Presbyterian
ministers present wonder moment what
may he the practical value of the talk OF
unity. Said the rector % Trinity:
1T is clear that there is and has been
since Chri't'S time a visible Church sat in
III" world by God 10 work for the up
building 81 righteousness IN men. II il
equally clear that this Church must be
united II ~ IL 20 do tn" work for which
IL exists
said DIR. van Dyke
I do not believe IN n visible Church.
do not believe Pr-shyterians believe in a
visible Church. The world has had too
much Church union. In. Reformation
was not in vain. II made possible a
spiritual Church whose shell did not
throttle II a. the same Church has in
Chrlstianlty's name throttled not only
spirituality but also men. women and
children
DIR. Manning is a leader in Episcopal
Church movement toward unity. At the
same table We're the Rev. Or. George
Alexander and the Rev Dr. Henry Mottet.
The rector Of Trinity parish addressed
the Presbyterian ministers as brethren. =
ehcittng applause. Then he affirmed his
position that there is a visible Church
and continued
The Episcopal Church has not created
a commission that shall have charge Of a
world conference to which II invites
Others To bs represented Such con-
ference mast include representatives OF
christian bodies VI all names All Catho-
lies ought 10 he there. All Pru,estants
ought also to Wa there
IN is - he a conference on faith and
order Men haze not too much faith.
too much religion. They never have had.
II - an oppurtunn moment To emphasize
me need for NOR" faith. more religion,
more Us. Of organized Christianity
IN" hearty applause nf the occasion
was clearly reserved for DR.. van Dyke.
the only ether speaker. who said:
When Macauiey returned from India
he observed that IN a land where men
worship cows differences between re-
lgIous bodies in England seem small
In city where men worship the gold
Ceif differences he;waen Preshyterians
Lpi.coDallans and others may well not
he dweit on.
There Is vast difference between
Christian unity and Church union. We
have Christian unity and We ALWAYS have
had n. We hav. not ChuTCh union and
hav" grave doubts ~ the value 81 the
thing II We poss.'Ssed IL The visible
Church that history has known and that
"" still know has done and still docs
much harm Many things about II We
shall not lift finger - str"ngt hen. much
less I"rpetugte.
We are grateful ~ Fpiscnpalians for
agitatIng the subject. Whatever makes
the work uf Christians known - valuable
W. are glad 20 know that hI CHS and lows
IN the Episcopal Church are agreed and
that they voted unanimously and stand
ing