New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-12-04
Declares at City Club Subway
Luncheon That the System
Would Pay. 2
OPPOSED BY OUTERBR!0GE
Chairman of the Rapid Transit
Committee of the Chamber 4,
of Commerce Gives
His Views


were received by the Public Services
Commission were answered with great
pains yesterday by William G. McAdoc-
Mr.. McAdoo's argument was made be-
fore large gathering OF men and women
who attended luncheon given b. The
Citv Club for the purpose Of discus
sion of the subway problem
He made a plea for his own offer {,
operate a modified triborough route.
mentioning his proposal in general
wav. and he anaIyzed every objection
thus far made against the route laiA out
and planned by the commission. showing
that the new system would pay. that tts
design was a very good cne. and tfat
there existed an absolute need for COM
petitiOn in rapid transit If present @N1-
ditfons we're TO be improved
Mr. McAdoo's speech followed thai -
n. Outerbridge. chairman ~ the srs-
cfaI committee on rapid transit - ths
Chamber Of Commerce. MI. OUter5rid=s
criticised the tribOroUgh route IN the
general manner which vas adopted IN
the report submitted by his committees
TO the chamber
He said that the line As uov laid ou-
would not pay, that il was not rsai'T
competitive. and that il was planned n
an extravagant manner
Il am deeply convinced" he said that
fr is the obligation of every public spir-
tied citizen and civic body 70 ask tne
pub1fc Service Commission and thss
Board of Estirnate 70 agree upon SONS
economic basis upon which the result or.
q competitive. self-sustaining SYSTEM,
might be obtained"
Homer Folks president 81 rhe CleT@i
Club. announced that the president %
the Interborough had been inv1tsd ~
address the meeting. and that II vas
not the fault OF the City Club that ha'
had not responded y
Mr. McAdoo first disposed OF the oc-'l
iectto7s made BY Mr. Outerbridge. and
the manner in which he did It brough7a
him applause.
7 have nothing but admiration for
nv friend. Mr. Outerbridgs." said Mr.
McAdoo. but ne has discussed iris
question from a purely academic point
Of view. and T am reminded Of the story
of the man who had listened for an hour
to politician who had discussed rne
financial problem and after IL was an
over. this man walked up and said Ny
friend. II was great speech. one OF tne
hest ever heard on the financial dues-
tion. but T would Ike 70 ask yoU ore
question. Which side are you on
Mr.. McAdoo then turned 70 the serious
aralvsfs Of the problem. He said that y
was not so complicated as " seemed. ard
Of
ewes il would realize how simple IL vas
He pronounced the attitude OF the cry
as too conservative, in that 1t uelther
would take the risk of doin9 something
that would let private capital build the
subways nor would it build them i=zs!I-
Mr. McAdoo then said
Now We want 10 get over tEat period ara
get over IL quickly. because the pFoo.efH -
really reached proportions where some deEl-
nife action and less talk is really essential
Bear in mind that the SUBWAY ina iI .
be built must be pull noJ n oaay S.5 JH -
with ample provision Tor a reasoha'ls lut-
ure time. and that ia turn means ,i-el ~
subway built at the moment must cost
--sa+ deal more money. il y takes care OF
the future. than II oulIt slI9E'1 .
T-ba public Service Commission ia11 c'it
finally and with the approval II tne nod -
of Estimate and ApporuoumsUt. lof -
4
rsCeiZ-ed FOR portion Of that route p
plan which was approved can % get 20 =
some respects. but 7 am trank 70 = 80
that YOU can appoint . ~ -l.'i,li ~ ~ - a-,f
committees of engineers or OF fitiIeff~' -
ask them TO study the subway proeen F,i,'
submit a plan. submit SilSStStl'i'S t'iI -. -.
NIT spee,iffcatons- and Will guarantee tns-
no two 81 them viii be n accord sltnNr :
70 the route as 70 the Sp7cllca fi'5ss,; o.
a. 70 ANYTHING: but 7 think that toe doly
constituted authorities under tne -
tfe nsopIe to make that plan. and the oi4f'
nd ri a
rsr do something with IL unless you 9ltoF
yourselves 10 be talked OUT o. lf W eHo"
the plan itself 20 oe taiRed 70 osS
w ucAdoo ampIifed this Thought -
follows:
That plan. namely 5.-,-I a. ,n'eFosrS1- IF *,
iaree surn of money. and the city nss fof
got the money IN hand 70 cons,rl.. .- -
mona1- 10 build the trunk line portion s.
the route namely the part tnat eA,sii.Is
from The Bronx a. about l9ls. $500 T-i,-s -.
u y srea1 deal OF talk has arisen about
This 11an- and IL has been assaile9 frorr
-a-to,Is 80 Quarters Certain engineers took
n into their minds 10 critic1se the specf
Tcations and the design other peopie cc
sr,cn1t Of discussion ensusd and II has
reached a point where IL seems 70 De evl
whether or not the contracts ~ eNaIu7s
- +ba puslir Service Commission, coDl1
race{ye the approval or uTls majority cI tb-
rosrd Of Estimate and AppOrtiOnr1snr
one OF the most serious objections raised
v-ss thar even II the city had the money
M onArafor was in sight. and there was 10
opa-wirh experience 70 operate tniS resi
-oad- as a matter OF fact thaI no reatV
intsIifsent railroad man would ooer 20 cp-
arsta fhe railroad II required thererors.
es said before a great degree or temerlry
a. ,,a[s an OrTer 20 operate r. OUT artsr
1ooting rhis situation over thoroughly. be
;,s, acquainted with the design OF TINS SUD
wsv n was deemed 10 be all r1ght W"
r,isht change il in some respects. put tah-
q, On tba whole and in It's main FEATURES. II
Is a very good plan. -, -
60 we concluded that with certain nlCdi-
6cations two very necessary fnoolflcdlions
a., tba nlan we would be able 10 furni.n
tha s5O 6O0 900 needed TO equip u ana No1to
~erar to operate it under conditions Niilch
We considered 20 be fair 10 the community
REGARDING the notifications Mr. McAdoo
said.
Tba modification from Grand Central sta
,j-,, n, Herald Square. and down BROADWAY
- Iarh street Is necessary IN order 70 en-
sbIe some OF the Broadway-LexInSton ser
I-ire 10 De carried through I'd street az
doorn TO Herald Square and through Broai-
Wv Connecting again with the nam
lexington line al lu1n SiIecl,I
that the line may reach that congesteo
S,,stDeSs district and great traffic cristust-
;rr- renr~e I'm order that more business may
- hsff Tor H. and in order that IL may -
made 10 pay. because " IS JUST as hucH - y.
h.a~