The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1910-05-17

L he made a Communication OF that
I C1zracter
Chairman Nelson asked Kerby about
his statement that he was not worried
about losing his position k=rbE re-
I Piled he had been assured by Mr. VII
son that te would be given Z position
I with the newspaper enterprise sssocf1-
I ton q Cleveland o. with which WI
sou was connected He said he had
received 10 Instructions from the aSs1-
Cation
Senator Nesou- -Eou haven't been
mustered in Eet7
Keroy: I can't say that have
NJ DENLY said the committee was
not seeking 70 hide anything and that
II the witness knew anything about
the department. which he thought the
committee should know h should re-
Isce II Kerry said he wouldn't ca-e
Bzuirger's corTeSpo1dsucs with Tlou-
So1 and other papers which Mr- Bran
6eis had called for last Friday but
which had not arrived from the depart
usn- He said At the present tine 1e
I id not desire 20 make any statement
M TsrCrees wanted 70 know II mat
te-S he had mentioned we're al that he
knew 70 the dfscreiit Of AIr- BaIIfnEer-
Eerby rspIIe5 he did not know Of any
thing else but he Objected 70 the use
however. that he though that Il Bal
I5uger believed Newell incompetent he
should hare told him 50 Moreover
h Efd not think Thomson vas the
proper nan FOR the place He admit
ted he based his opinion of him On the
correspondence Thomson had with
BaECgeC
How It Happened
Herby at great length detailed the
circumstances which Ied him 70 make
public his sentiment He told OF visits
% him BY various newspaper men He
said he had many conferences with
-Lzu- Reterr1nE u his understanding
that u he lost his position he would be
provided with another
OTHERWISE 7 could nat have done
what 7 did
Then il was agreed - said MI Yer
trees- before you made your state
uent that Z you would make II you
would b taken care or
Not because made the statement.
bzr because I would oe fred replied
You understood xoz would be
= certainly did
He said these reporters came % him
and asked hin for the story for pub
liczC1ou-
rInue6- that = would u0t rubIkh the
facts but that I was wiling 70 be
called before the committee 70 testify
LACer wilson and Arnold he said
brought C0Ivar and Hickey. C~0 other
WIFE He tod them = would not be
proper 70 make the statement they
suggested and they appeared 70 be SAT
LSled wiki that decision On his part
M C0Iver told him he had come
from Cleveland for q sVory ard il
stead had found & man
ANY time I wanted 70 get out @
-1z interior department.. the witness
said he would see that : was taken
care o. He said they were constantly
-
they could use and he would De ready
70 o<sr ne Z position at any time
The 1exr day 7 read t-e testimony
o. Secretary BzIIiuEEr n which hs de-
MED any znoWl@dge Of the La%ler
nemorac6um ard h made statements
which did not believe . o Cus- The
committee apparently wanted none o.
that testimony and Lhe matter vas
closed II ny opinion Therefore
could not Be called as = witness 20 r.
Oh direct examination
says II Was Not True
~Mr- AwI=r had also made the
statement that II copies Of t5s memo
ra1tz lad oee1 retained That vas
NOT true for II fzcr four copies were
made
Mr.. Bran6elz told me- he con
cEued. thai he believed the action u
the committee cut me Of from show
ing what the facts were : cana ID
Us 20 19 vas 70 make the facts public
NJ BaI-1ge- had said all the facts
should 6A made public and I deter
mined 20 give the sIorE 70 the news
papers.
M Eerby said he considered the
i1f0rr-ari0u Is having material bear-
tlE u The Investigation Nr- Bran
delz rad previously made Z call for
rh= memoranda which he said ought
70 have eIici-sd this Information
Therefore he Wzs -1e Only one through
whom u could De made public kerby
explained how he knew the ueu0rau-
dun referred % was II the interior de-
pz-meC- He had accidentally seeu
The paper il the desk q Private Sec
rerzry Carr
Massey toId ne ought not 70
look Al II said k=roy- = an sorry
UEseE : saw IL
He explained that he thought Secre-
-arE BaIinEer had 10 right u ax-
anime the memorandum LzwLar pre-
pArs1 -1- C1e president Pressed FOR
his k1oWI=dgs that M BaIIingsr had
examined IT, th= witness said
he Rad Portions of II at least
TIE witness tod how he had uer-
uirrsd his note book 70 Be photo
graphsd-
--T0U took = oUr and rad = rroto-
Erzph=61~ asked Mr. Terrrsss
You let : did snzoue6 the wiz
ness sUphzcfcaLIy
You made this statement from z
sense u duty 70 the public and 70 the
CouUi-rse - asked Senator Purcell
= certainly did"
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