Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1910-08-04


bills after they were receipted.
9. Do you remember, Mr. Jones, II any
book showing the receipts of the institution
was ever exhibited to you? A. You mean
for crops, aud such things as thatg There
were statements made.
Q. Verbal statementsg A. Verbal state
mentS, and sometimes there was sheet q
paper showing the Varions receipts.
q. Did You participate at any time In the
making mp of the annual reportF 4. Yes
sir.
9. Was that report mace up principal,
by Mr.. Perkins! A. The clerical work Wa
yes sir, although the report that signed, !
went over part OF IL myself and rewrot,
part OF IL. didn't think IL was In the shap,
that wanted it. That was the only report
that signed.
Q. Did you ever take The trouble to check
up with the county treasurer and see II hi
books compared with the statement con
tanned In your reportg A. did not. Tn
only dealings | had with the county treas
urer think was one time the board had
overdrawn their accourt--that Is my recol-
lection-and came in here and asked tn
county treasurer to tell me how the account
stood That is the only time | can recall
having any conversation with the County
Treasurer
Q. don't want TO be personal, but how
could you. ms "a trustee, sign report with
out having checked over with the county
depository or the county treasurer and know
that the amount of money accounted for IN
your report was absolutely correct! a.
Well 1t is the same as / do in my own bust
ness IL is absolutely impossible for the
members OF "A board OF trustees TO check up
these items in the time that they devote To
the work. They cannot do It.
Q. Is 1t yoar opinion, Mr.. Jones, that a
longer time should be given the trustees for
the performance of these dutiesg A. / do
most positively think so.
Q. Would you think II advisable that u
clerk be designated ny the board to do It's
work that is. keep the records OF the meet
inPsy A. What do you mean. by the coun'
~ board? | think so.
employed In viewing the buildings ana look
Ing after the material part OF the asylum
4. think that would be n good idea. But
hat clerk would he i'm a position to do about
what you think has been done alrcady, !
think the members OF the board ought 10
be paid a sufficient amount to Justify thehl
I'm spending more Time IN looking over tht
accounts of the Institutions. But II they
did the members of the county bonrd would
soon criticise them for spending TOO much
of their money
Jones was that the statement has been
made hat the time was two limited for the
trustees to go into detailed examination
of the bills presented and the business gen
orally. 4. | fully concur with that. IheN
cannot do it, 1t is q physical impossibility
to do 1t in the time that they devote to bus
mess
Q. When you were trustee was there any
time limit set for the trustees work out
there how many times they should 20 out
there or how many days they should stay
A. Not that / ever heard Of II was custom
airy to 20 once month.
Q. Generally got away he same day \. !
always got away the same day, don I
think the County Bonrd ever put amy unit
on IT, but I think the members OF the tfus-
tees would be criticised If they spent great
share OF their time I'm going over the county
business especially If they did not under
stand the detail that was REQUIRED
Q. Wouldn't il be perfectly right to assume
. ff.aNsE
day would be insufficient for going lhlo
these matters, as I'm your Judgment they
should be-? A. II is entirely Inadequate.
They cannot possibly look into the details
of the matter | don't think they could look
after the physical part of the institution IN
one day ms II ought to be done.
(Mr. Egan.) Is this an inquiry that Is held
by the committee, or has any member ol
the Board the right To ask questions as they
come upt
TINT we are proceeding IN the same hlalhet
that we have in the past. As far as we are
concerned, think when we nave nnlshtd
Mr. Jones will be glad to answer any CUES
lions that any members of the Board may
put to him.
tMr. Jonesl Yes sir.
mir. RoethaD ! would ask you to make a
note Of any questions you want TO ask MI
Jones. =,
office, MIR Jones' did the superintendent
ever 70 over the matter OF purchasing sup
plies with you and get the opinion OF ihem-
beers as to what would be necessary Tor ""
nronrr maIntainnuce of the institution A.
We discussed II. | remember ! suggested 10
the superintendent once or twice that IN
stead of combining his purchases 70 one
house TINT he invite bids for the different
kinds of goods, especially where there was
n large amount involved. There were oc-
cnsions when he was compelled 10 Duy from
local dealers In emergiences When ne Wouiu
not have time to invite bids. ] think II Is
the proper way of conducting business,
While ! am Ia favor of home merchants, !
beiicye in matters pertaining 10 PUBIC bus
iness, we ought to buy goods as cheap as
possible irrespective of who gets the busl-
ness. , 49,,
o. In examining the stores kept there, have
you observed whether any connlderhhle
quantity OF goods was on hand from when
the patients hight be supplied2 A. fecall
some, but not more than ! thought would De
necessary in an institution of that size.
q. Would you Judge the ainouht On h an.
necessary TO carry them through the cur
rent month"; A. Generally. but of course we
didn't 40 into details For instance, we
didn't take the number OF pounds OF colee'
o 6id Won ever have any discussion as TO
the quality of supplies and the price that
should be paid for supplies ior the lnstlJu,
tioug A We had discussions over II ana OF
course we were governed TO some extent RE-
There is no denying tbat-hy the recon-
mcndations OF the superintendent. II ne
Thought such and such qunlity Of goods was
ms far as I was concerned, J. acqulesced 20
this recommendation. We went over the
prices quite carefully,
d. Did it ever occur 20 you, Mr.. Jones
that the price paid for certain supplies "hs
rnther excessive for charitable lhSutu-
ton? A. That would depend upon man S
Judgment, / confess hat perhaps my views
would be IA little eNtraragant, ] might
want something better than somebody eist'
on the whole, don't think there were any
excessive invoices paid. believe those
moor uufortunAtes are entitled 70 gOoq
treatment: to be clothed comfortably ana
presentabiy and / don't think there was
anything eNtrayAEant bought
% 10 Won think suits nj $500 wholesale
would be a proper charger A. ] think so
yes. :
have never been IN the retail business.
had some experience while | was engnReu
with the Federal government In purcha5'
ing supplies. our suits generally cost IRON
sl5 10 &l7 wholesale, ana we purchaser =
hundred at time, sometimes p thoushuu
higher. I would say SIS would be fair price
and think it is good enough for anybody
I wear xl5 suits at home.
q Al wholesale or retailF A. SO at retail
d as at wholesale would be- more than
Won pay DO you think cOrsets al $is y
dozen would be a proper charge fora chhfll-
able Institutions 8. Now you are getting
out OF my territory.
q DO you think handkerchieis at SOW q
dozen would be a proper charge where they
are bought in small quantities2 a, J thlhB
that would De pretty nigh.
O. Do you think hose ut Wh per doNei
would be pretty hiRh' A. pay hlty csnt'
for mine ] know they sell fairly Rood nose
for twenty-five cents.
d You didn't use hose that you paid y
cents forY A.. don't think ever did,
q. DO you know what amusements the IN
mates have out thgreT A. ] didn't see any
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