New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-08-11

ness said. he told him what Hamon had
.aid about not having any interest in the
contracts
THAT was not what he told me-, Sem
ator Gore replied. according to Carter.
attempted bribery.
Ii was last January or February that
Carter and Adams met, the witness said
Adams invited me TO his home in
Washington. and I went TO see him. said
Carter. During the conversation he
spoke of his per cent arrangement with
NcAJurray. He said he would get per
cent of whatever McMurray made out of
the land deal. He then told me he had
lots of people back of him. who have
Won got?' ] asked. Well he replied
we've got Congressman MCGUIRE for one
Is Mcclure in on it,? / asked. Yes. he
said. Mcclure is in on it, and he will get
his share. too Who else have you got?
We've got DIR. Wright. the Choctaw dele
gate. He's in on it. too. Oh. we've got
some more.
Then he wanted me to go to Senator
Gore and get him to withdraw his oppo-
sition TO the contracts He said il they
could stop Cores opposition there would
through / asked him if he was sure he
would get his share from McMurray. He
answered he was sure of it, or that he
would make sure of if. for McMurray had
'double-crossed' him before and he did not
intend to allow him to do it again.
rs Adams a man whose word you would
take as gospel asked Chairman Burke.
Believed Him This Time.
No. not as gospel. but what he said
this time was said in such a way as to be
believed
when he said he had Mcguire in on il
and Mcclure was TO get his share. did
YOU take him Seriously?
Yes. and he said he had some others"
DO YOU know any one in any of the
departments at Washington who is inter
ested in the contracts"
No | do not"
Carter said he had been convinced that
President Roosevelt. while the old tribal
contracts were pending. was strongly op-
posed to the 10 per cent fee.
John H. Shepherd formerly a special
sistant in the Department of the Interior.
testified that Senator Curtis. of Kansas,
and Vice President Sherman also opposed
the amount of the fee.
Haman took the stand again and was
asked about his counter charges that Rep
resenta tive {. Z. Creager had solicited
sums of money from McMurray.
At luncheon Hanon said. in the
restaurant of the House of Representatives
on June - last. Creager, McMurray and
myself were present Creager said he
needed 81 .aao to conduct his campaign in
Oklahoma. ] took the remark as a direct
request on McMurray After luncheon L
asked McMurray why he did not give
Creager the s.. 0o0 McMurray replied that
he could not give money to Creager, as he
had legislation pending in Congress, and II
would not look good
Hamon also testified that he had a wit
ness to prove that Creager had asked Nc
Murray for money. and repeated his testi
naony that he in Washington in the
interest of Governor Haskell, who was
under federal Indictment in the Muskogee
town lot cases. Despite Governor Haskelrs
denial. Hamon maintained that Haskell
had paid his expenses to Washington and
was to allow him a fee.
Didn't you on May last ask Congress
man {. d. Carter TO urge me to withdraw
my bill holding up the McMurray con-
tracts" Hamon was asked by Senator
Gore.
i did not" replied Hamon
Mr.. Creager repeated his denials given in
interviews. He said he once had asked
McMurray for loan of 81, 600 but 1t was to
he a regular business deal with security
The loan was never made. Later he had
talked politics with McMurray. but the
latter never had assisted him financially.
as it was agreed that it would not look
proper
The committee probably viii go TO Sui
phur tomorrow.