New-York tribune., 1910-07-13
SAIL WITHOUT CHILDREN
Mr.. and Mrs. R. H. Thomas
Leave Gould Girls with Aunt.
TO BE AWAY TWO MONTHS
Mother Declares She Will Fight
to Keep Children Away
from E. j. Gould.

Ralph Hill Thomas and his bride, who
was Mrs. Helen Kelly Gould, the divorced
wife of Frank Jay Gould, sailed from Ho-
boken yesterday on the Kaiser Wilhelm der
Crosse for a two months honeymoon
abroad Mrs. Thomas'S two little daugh-
ters. Helen and Dorothy. seven and five
years old, respectively. were not among
the MANY persons at the pier to bid the
couple godspeed. Instead. they were safely
ensconced in the home of their aunt, Miss
Helen Gould, at ton-on-the-Hudsoh'
whittier they had been conveyed by detec-
tives after an exciting taxicab chase foi-
lowing the wedding Monday afternoon
They are going to stay there for two
months, until return from Europe, said
Mrs. Thomas, referring to the chiidren'
when we get back we are going 10 hVe
at Sands Point, Long Island. and the chill
dren will live there. too. They belong en-
tirely to me now on account Oh fralih
Goulds marriage previous TO mine. Ihey
were not changed from one machine to an
other yesterday. They were given up 10
Helen Gould very peaceably- Miss Gould
has no legal right to them, nor has FRANK
Gould any more"
But when Mrs. Thomas was asked IL sie
would give the children back to Mr. Gould
when the period of her guardianship, de-
fined in the divorce decree, had elapsed she
said
That remains TO be seen. Since MT.
Gould's remarriage in Paris do not regard
him as proper, person to have charge Oh
the girls Rest assured. I will do all IN
my power to keep the girls away from
him.
What of the proposal Of Miss Goulo 10
act as guardian?" she was asked
IT could not think of such a proposition.
Miss Gould has twice offered to adopt the
children, but I would not consider it.
Mrs. Thomas denied emphatically any IN
tention to carry off her children Ihey
we're being sent to see their grandmother at
the Hotel Gotham, she said, when inter-
cepted by the detectives. For the presence
of the detectives she blamed her former
husband and also Miss Helen Gould.
She and her husband motored over from
Sands Point yesterday, where they hao
gone following the ceremony at NO S4o
Park avenue. They were accompanied by
Mr and Mrs. William A Prime. who also
sailed on the Kaiser Wilhelm der Crosse.
The Thomases occupied the captains suite
An examination OF the final decree, grant
from Frank Jay Gould. signed by Justice
Geigerich August 25, 1909, shows that IN
the event Of Mrs Gould's remarrying she
has the custody OF the children for TWO
months less than If she remained single
Where formerly she had charge Of The chill
dren for five months, from December l TO
April 50, in each year, she now gets them
for, three n1cnths-February March and
April
Bv a separate agreement, upon her re-
2arriage Mrs Gould lost $4,000 OF the
$40. .oo0 yearly alinaony she received as long
as she did not marry.
The exceptions mentioned in the decree
bv vhic!? the father and mother were to
have the children for certain week ends
during each others period Of custodianship
are not changed by Mrs. Gould's marriage
EXCEPT as they obtain in the two months
she now loses
Il was authoritatfvely stated yesterday
that there was no definite agreement as TO
the length OF time the children should re-
main with their aunt, Miss Helen Gould,
but that they would probably he with her
at various times by ths consent of both
parties, as they had been II. the past, when
Mr.. Gould or their mother found II incon-
venient to have the Children with them at
the stated periods The decree provided
that the father or mother should not take
the children more than one hundred miles
from New York without the consent of the
other
No mention Of Mr Gould's rerlariage
was made in the decree, and the fact that
he had married again would not affect the
provisions Of the original agreement