New-York tribune., 1910-08-13
SPAIN REFUSES TO
CO TO CANOSSA
Premier Tells of Catholic Plans
to Cause CarliSt
Uprising.
CIVIL POWER MUST RULE
Most of the People Anti Clerical
Refuses to Withdraw Bill
Regarding Orders
Defends King.

Paris, Aug 1.-THE Paris Temps
to-day prints a long, sensational inter
View with Jose Canalejas Mendes, the
spanish Prime Minister, covering the
recent events which eliminated in the
severance of diplomatic relations be
tween the Spanish government and the
Holy See. AS well as his future pro-
srarnme, which. the paper says, the
Premier dictated.
Premier Canalejas says that the move
ment in the North of Spain is directed
by rich Carlists, who are inveterate
Separatists and enemies of the re-
nlainder Of the country and integral
ssts, 'intransigeant Catholics, whose
only programme is the reign of Jesus
Christ
The Prime Minister adds that he has
knowledge that the committee behind
the movement spent 100000 pesetas
(Ss0.000e In giving the demonstrators Of
July 10 meal tickets besides their rail-
road fares. After the failure of the
demonstration, Sehor CanaIejas says, the
agitators organized juntas of which
''and I announce this publicly for the
ers." He says that he officially pro-
tested to the Bishop OF Vittoria and to
the Vatican, but both Of them replied
that it was none of their concern. He
will welcome interpretations Of the
Carlists which will give him an oppor-
fuaity Ito lay bare the detestab1e con-
epiracy against civilization, the King
and the country"
There is no religious question in
SPAIN" the Premier continues. "It is
simply an effort to exploit religious
sentiment upon the ground, now dis
proved, that the Spanish majority is
clerical The majority, as was indis-
putably proved at the elections, is anti
clerical. Most Of the municipalities
sent addresses approving the govern
u1ent's policy. 1 have received 10000
kilograms urging me TO continue this
policy.
Seilor Canalejas does not intend to
abuse the power conided in him. but
that he viii use it firmly and resolutely
TO establish q preponderance of civil
power.
Plans for Education Bill.
il is his intention to pass q law insur-
ing neutral official education, not hostile
or favorable to any creed or philosophy,
but free from dogma. He insists that
the policy OF the government is not di-
rected against the religious orders, but
he would have them pay taxes from
which they were exempted by conserva-
tive governments, and wishes to reduce
the number of orders
IF 7 cannot reduce the number of or
ders by an agreement with the Vatican
! viii by law he is quoted as saying.
The Premier expresses unqualified sat
isfaction at the reports that the Vatican
now desires conciliation. and says he
will make every effort to reach an agree
ment with the Holy See. but he main
tains that the bill iHterdicting further
orders cannot be withdrawn.
Il could rot withdraw that bill if
would. The Liberal party and the ma
-iority in the Cortes are united on that
point. Different political groups have
different ideas. but they are one against
clericalism.''
Se1or Canalejas frankly says that the
tiFne has come when the question must
be solved II the Liberals fail, a popular
explosion, he says. is sure TO follow. He
believes that his adversaries wanted d
rupture with the Vatican in the hope
that it would mean his downfall. under