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Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27

Si,- weeks more Of Coast league base
hall, Mr.. Mrs. and Miss Fan, ana the
hooks will be closed on another pen
nant battle. And at the present VIII
inc it looks very much like the bea.
vers. for despite the dope handed o9'
regarding the sturdy qualities OIL Nol-
verton's wallopers, there is no dehylhs
the fact that Portland mas nice i'ts,t iea4
at present and will get in her toughesI
series on the home lot. This VIII heip
some. for after the present Week. III
which Oakland will be tackled lne
schedule will break rather SOFT for
McCredie. ,,o-
Those figuring on the Seals going
HIGHER in the race by virtue oil lrilil u.
ming Sacramento to fare-thee-Well III III
the series which begins tomorrow may
and may not be right but the uopo
declares they are the latter. Sacla-
mento played ball against the Angels
that would make any team in the
league nut on it's hustling uniform 10
heat. and if the Seals take them down
the line very rapidly it will be a sur
prise. .. 1,,,,o,,d
with both teams eliminated oeyoho
hope from the pennant race the sltua-
4ion here develops into Los Angeles
affair pure and simple. Lots OF petIlns
regarding the way the aggregauonS
xyould finish was INDUCED In early III
+he season and the adherents OF Hogan
and Dillon are getting their money
worth in the closeness or the race Iol
near-cellar honors. .,.. -
II the statement printed recently IN
which Hen Berry declared ne Woulu
make but few changes IN MS teall,
next wear. was authentic, then the local
fans will swing most of their poostlhs
to Hogan and root for the Villagers
10 hang it on the Angels. supporters
of the game here have always looked
on the Angels as prime favorites' but
their nositoin in the pennant race anu
+he way in which several members Oh
+he team balled things up IN seVeral
recent instances have soured the tans
hit Then the poor prospects Tor next
season. as compared with Hogan's ever
ready desire to pay a little money IN an
endeayor to strengthen his oattiers,
have served to give the Villagers added
favor and they are apt to nave the
crowd with them during the fray.
THE weeks series promises to pe
hot one and we'll worth anybody
money. with no pennant prospects to
bother them the bugs can journey 10
Cbutes and Vernon without particular
IyoTrv regarding what is happening
awav from home, and the full rootlns
force of both the Angels and Villagers
is sure to be out at the washington
street lot tomorrow.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
MURPHY IS BLAMED FOR
LATE SERIES PROSPECT
Johnson Says Cubs Leader Can
Arrange for Early Cham
pionship Struggle

CHICAGO, Sept. 26.-"There will be
no Sunday game during the worlds
series unless President Murphy agrees
to wind up the schedule for his club
before October 49," said President B.
B. Johnson Of the American league last
night.
"I understand President Robinson of
ST. Louis has made proposition to
Murphy regarding the early compile
ton of the remaining games between
these clubs, and from all reports the
Chicago club alone is holding out.
Interest in the major league races
is bound to slump with the approach
of cold weather." continued President
Johnson, "and it is absolutely essen
tial that the leagues season close be
fore the middle of October. Cold
weather already has cut into the sport,
and in order to make this series for
the highest honors in baseball the
huge success it should be the club
owners should arrange their games
so the pennant winning clubs might
meet under favorable weather condi-
tions."
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
sOPHoMOREs
STANFORD AND U. OF C.
PREPARE FOR BIG GAME

Seven weeks will find the universities
of Stanford and California in desperate
struggle to decide the most important
event hereabouts of the intercollegiate
year. In this time, before the clash
on California field November IL, many
changes will take place on the rival
campuses. Coach James Schaeffer will
be given the pleasant task of choosing
fifteen veterans to fill his side of the
contract, while at Stanford the task
will be to develop men to meet the
high standard which will be required
to win or tie the game
The chances OF the blue and gold
never have been brighter for victory.
At Stanford all will depend upon Coach
Presley and the fighting spirit he gets
to back him UP on the bleachers and
from the men in the field. There are
enough good men at Palo Alto to make
up a fifteen which would be hard to
beat. These men, however, have not
the experience as individuals or as a
team which is possessed by the Califor-
MIA players.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
LOCAL ATHLETES
TO CLIP RECORD.
Occidental A. A. U. Meet Prom
iSes Fast Time and Close
Competition

The local college athletes are busy
figuring the possibilities of the COM
plete demolition of Martin Sherldan's
all-around record in the A. A. U. cham
pionship meet to be held on the Occi-
dental campus Saturday afternoon, Oc-
tober 1.
Six entries have been received for
the all-around competition, with Fred
G. Thomson, the worlds all-around
champion, the central figure. Donoghue
will give him the race of his life in
the two hurdle events, although he will
hardly be a factor in the all-around
work.
The entries for the meet have been
announced as follows:
All around-Fred Thomson. unattached;
James Donahue unattached; Charles B. Crnk-
law, U. S. c.. Drury P. Weiman, Occidental;
Herbert Whitted, Citrus H. s.; A. f. Griffith,
unattached.
lOO-yard dash-waido Throop, U. S. c.; Ar
thur J. Coover, unattached; Glen Craig, Bur-
bank; Chester Bradbeer, Occidental.
220-yard dash-Waldo Throop. u. s. c.; Ar
thur J. Coover, unattached; Glen Craig, Bur
bank Frank Mcclure. L. A. H. s.; claud
4l6-yard dash-George Clark. L. A. H. S.;
Munroe Walton, u. s. C.; Glen Craig, Bur
Simpson L. A. H. s.; Jack Valley, unat-
tached; Chester Bradbeer, Occidental; Stone-
wall Jackson, Citrus High.
Mile run-Wilson Turner, l.. A. Y NJ. c. A:
Munroe Walton, U. S. c.; Elmer Richardson,
Occidental e. W. Fischer, Pomona; James w.
Johnson, Illinois A. c.; Jack Valley. unat-
tached.
Half-mile waikiki. w. Fischer Pomona;
Hunt Occidental.
12o-yard hurdle-wilson Turner, L. A 7. NJ.
c. A.. Ben NJ. Ward, L. A. H. S.
Running high Jump-Ben p. Ward, L. A. II.
S.; James w. Johnson, Illinois A. c.
Running broad jump-Wllson Turner, T.. A.
Y, NJ. C. A.; George W. Clark. L. A. H. S.;
Glen Craig, Burbank; Ben II. Ward L. A.
II. s.; F.. b. Gffen. L. A. Polytechnic.
Pole vault-Grant Richardson, u. S. c.:
James w. johnson. Illinois A. c.. Il. B. Gift
fen, L. A. Polytechnic.
Order of events-1oo-yard dash. putting 1s-
pound shot, running high jump, 22o-yard dash,
haf-mile walk, throwing 16-pound hammer;
12O-yard hurdle pole vault, 44O-yard dash,
throwing 56-pound weight, running broad jump,
one mile run.
officials-Referee. c. B. Raitt sarter. Kim
ter Hamilton. Judges George W. Braden.
Dean Crowmel ]. b. Franklin, DR.. p. C.
Beach, II. f. White. Clerk Of course, Watson
r. Burt. Timers, Bovard Robb, Himrod. An
nouncer and scorer, d. Barnard.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
AUTOISTS ARE CALLED
FOR RACE TO PHOENIX

A meeting of local automobile men
interested in the Los Angeles-Phoenix
race and the races at the state fair at
Phoenix following the big race, has been
called for IL o'clock this morning at the
Hollenbeck hotel by Referee John S.
Mitchell.
The various events, for which $1,000 In
cash is hung up by the Fair association,
have been announced. and it is now de-
sired to get some definite idea as to the
number of entries In each class. There
Is a movement to stir up local sentl-
ment in seeing that the roads are In
shape to Ehrenberg, as the Maricopa
Automobile club of Phoenix has the good
roads matter in hand east of the river.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
RICHMOND COPPER HAS
HIGH SWATTING RECORD

NEW YORK, Sept. 26.-Let Ty Cobb,
Wagner, Lajoie, Speaker, Snodgrass
and all the rest of them take off their
hats and let them feel that there is
something for them to aspire to in the
batting line. for Richmond has the
record batter of them all. His name
is Edward c. Tate.
"Pop" Tate has a batting average
that puts the rest in the shade. 1t was
in the old Virginia state league that
Tate made his highest average. In that
league, playing for Norfolk in 1883, he
participated in 88 games and hammered
the ball for an average of 531.
In those days the Virginia State
league was a factor in baseball and
the teams in that league could tackle
any teams playing the game. And Tate
was the best in all that goodly COM
pany when it came to homers, triples
and singles.
Pop started playing professional
ball with the Norfolk team of the Vir-
ginia league and he was topnotcher
from the first. Then it was that he
batted the ball for .531. He stayed
with Norfolk for two years and then in
1885 received a call from Boston in the
National league that looked too good
to miss.
In Boston Tate held up to his stand
ard, although he could not reach that
.531 again, and the country never called
in vain for a hit. He was also star
catcher in those days, and the way that
good right arm of his whipped them
down to second worked destruction to
the runner.
Then Pop" went to Baltimore in
1889, where he was just as good with
the stick as ever. In 1890, however,
that good right arm of his went back
on him and he had to lay off. He had
strained the arm somehow or some
where and it never came back.
Pop" finished his career as ball
player in Reading, Pa, the next sea-
son. His arm never came back and he
couldn't get them down to second at
ALL SO he had to stop.
When his baseball career was over
he went to Richmond and to work
Later he was made member of the
police force and now he Is Sergeant
Tate.
But the fact remains that .5S1 in the
old Virginia state league still stands as
the record. which has never been APP
preached.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
OGDEN WINNERS

OGDEN, Utah, Sept. 26.-Favorites
again won at the fair grounds today.
A surprise came in the sixth race,
when Sir Barry at to 1 beat Snow
Ball, the favorite, by nose. Sum-
mary;
First race, four furlongs selling-swagger-
Iator won, Aunt Polly SECOND, Anargosa third
time :i9 3-5.
Second race, six furlongs, sellng-Ketchel
won, Aquilene second Dr. Downie third; time
III
Third race, six furlongs, seling-Harry Stan
hope won, Cope Well second, Judge Shortall
third; time LII 3-5.
Fourth race. one mile, sellng-Cabn won
Lady Elizabeth second, Oberon third; time
IA 2-5.
Fifth race, seven furlongs, seling-Biskro
won Novgorod second, Nyanza third time
80 1-5.
Sixth race five furlongs sellng-Sir Barry
won, SNOWFALL second sainest third; time
03 1-5.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
LOS ANGELES HIGH TO
MEET SAN BERNARDIN0

The Los Angeles high school team
will have the first tryout of the fall
football schedule next Saturday at FL
est park, when they meet the San Ber-
nardino high school Rugby fifteen. AS
it will be the first interscholastic game
Of the local season a large turnout of
the fans is expected and the success of
the initial contest will determine large
ly whether the English or the Amer
lean game is the Southern California
choice.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
CHATTING DISH FEAST
NEARLY FATAL To KID

NEW YORK, Sept. 26.-Norman
Selby, better known as Kid Mccoy.
formerly a top-notch middle and
heavyweight fighter, narrowly escaped
death today from an explosion and
fire on g. launch in which he was pass
ing the night with friend on the Hud-
son river.
The boat was anchored off Fort
Washington point. Selby and his
friend, Frank George of Manhattan,
were preparing a chatting dish feast
oyer an alcohol lamp when it exploded.
The woodwork of the craft caught fire
and the gasoline tank was threatened.
Both men dived over the side and
Selby held onto the edge of the craft
while George, who is a good swimmer,
swan to shore, unfastened a small
rowboat and returned to Selby's rescue
The men had hardly left the launch
when the gasoline tank exploded.
Palms ball team will be glad to ao-
cept the challenge of Anaheim for a re-
turn game next Sunday, and If every
thing is o. K. an answer through The
Herald will notify the Palms manager
that the deal is closed.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
HELENA RESULTS

HELENA, Mont, Sept. 26.-Good
weather and a fast track marked the
first days racing at the Montana state
fair, which opened here today. Cop
pertown's easy victory in the Capital
City selling stakes was the feature of
the days card. Results:
First race, 3-year-olds. trot, purse $40O, mile
heats. two in three-Mountain Chieftain won in
straight heats; Lady Bozeman second, Helena
Boy third; best time 2:34A.
- Second race, five furlongs, selling-Gene woon
won, Lee Harrison second, Flying third; time
:01.
Third race. one mile, seling-J. C. Clem won,
Kogo second, Dave Weber third; time 1:42 S-5.
Fourth race, Capital City selling stages, six
furlongs-Coppertown won, Thomas Calhoun
second, Sake third; time 115 1-5.
Fifth race, five and a half furlongs, selling
Native Son won, Roy Junior second, Madeline
Musgrave third; time 1:0S 3-5.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
AUTO SMOKER To GET
VANDERBILT RETURNS
Dick Ferris and Others to Enter
tain Crowds Awaiting New
York Race News

There is movement on foot to have
q smoker at one of the downtown
cafes starting at 1 o'clock a. m. Sat
urday, which will be attended by
members of the automobile fraternity
who are interested in the outcome OF
the Vanderbilt race. AS the races
start at 6 a. m, eastern time. we will
be able to get some returns from the
course here by 2:30 at the latest, as
the crowds will be on the ground by
that time. One of the local papers has
offered to give us a private wire right
at the table. giving us the detailed
returns in jig time. A vaudeville en-
tertainment, both professional ana
amateur, will be on the program. Ev-
cry one will be expected to take his
turn at doing some good stunt. 1t is
to be hoped, however, that Bill New
erf will not attempt to make a speech
or Leon Shelter to sing a song. The
last time this happened the west wall
of the Alexandria sagged two feet
from pure disgust. Handsome Freddie
Pabst will of course be on hand to
pass out some of his comedy; Earle
Violet Anthony will play the organ;
Don Lee will dance the Grizzly Bear;
Bill Cowan is expected to tell just
what inducement he made his family
to be out so late.
Dick Ferris will give one of his
characteristic speeches so dear to the
hearts of the newspaper men-and
HIMSELF Bill Ruess will not abe al
lowed to talk under any circun1-
stances; Phil Lyon will amuse his
friends by a few timely remarks on
poker; Ralph Hamlin will respond to
the toast, Fried Eggs; Col. Fenner
is expected to give a little discourse
on Money I Have Made in the Au-
tomobile Business; Bill Bush will
bore us all with a general resume of
the Glidden tours won by the Pierce
Arrow; Pa Conwell and Pal Young
will sing a duet entitled "Brotherly
Love-"
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
PING BODIE LOOKED ON
As FIND FOR WHITE SOX

CHICAGO, Sept 26.-The Chicago
White Sox have been picking up latent
talent in out of the way places with
conspicuous success. President Com
iskey secured Paul Mclean for $4,000.
and it is said that he would have little
trouble in getting $4,000 for that re-
cruit today. His most recent little
coup was the purchase of Ping Bodie,
a fielder Of the Pacific Coast league,
a, marvel for whom President Farrell
of the Yankees is said to have offered
$4,000.
Moreover, Comiskey does not seem
anxious to dispose of his finds at
higher prices than his purchasing
rates. He hangs on to them and
searches for more Jesse Baker, the
Spol<ane southpaw, is now making no
hit. no-run records, and several mag
mates were after him. Comiskey cor
nered Baker with a good round sum,
if reports are accurate.
Red Bowser of Flint, Mich. is an
other outfielder taken by the White
Sox from other designing manage
ments Anderson of the same team
has been picked up by Manager Duly
of the White Sox. Anderson is a hrst
baseman, reported to be among the
best in the minor leagues.
OF these youngsters. Bodie and Bow
ser are said to be of the same mate
rial of which Mclean is constructed
They are heralded as crack fielders
and heavy hitters. Bodie has made
nearly thirty home runs this season
against the Pacific slope pitchers. Be
sides Baker, Comiskey has picked up
a southpaw from the Western league
called Farthing, who has good rec
ord. The president of the White Sox
believes that the pair will make a
strong addition to his twirling staff.
Manager Duffy has placed three men
secured during the past month or so
on the team. They are Right FleIder
Mclean. Third Baseman Lord, and Nc
Conneli at second base. Lord has
made a remarkable record. 1t is ex-
pected that Duffy will use Doherty as
a utility infielder.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
WINS FROM
Northwestern BUNCH
Knapp Holds Spokane SIuggerS
Safe, While Baker LoosenS
In Single Inning

PORTLAND, Sept. 26.-The Spokane
team of the Northwestern league and
the Portland team of the Pacific Coast
league crossed bats here today in an
exhibition game, Portland winning by
to 0. The Washingtonians were un-
able to do anything at all with Knapp.
Only one man was able to hit him, and
not effectively at that.
Portland found Baker an even half
dozen times, but the Spokane pitcher
killed off all run getting prospects
until the eighth inning. Score:
Spokane O, hits 1, errors 2.
Portland l, hits 6, errors q
Observation-Disclosures and Shea; Knapp
and Murray. Umpire, F1nney.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
OGDEN ENTRIES

OGDEN. Utah. Sept. 8.-Entries for Tues
day. September 27;
First race six furlongs selling-spring Ban.
Jim Cafferata, 104; Affair, Chief Desmond 1l0;
Bonnie Bard 101; Alaxie, Camera, So.
Second race, seven furongs, selling-Bll
Maybam, Aunt Polly, Zickabrams, Susie Gregg,
1O9; 'Sr Barry, 1O7; Able, III.
Third race, six furlongs, purse-Balronia,
1O8; sylvia u, Arionette, No Quarter, 81; Net
ropolitan, "a.
Fourth race, mile and furlong, selling
ssweli Girl 1O2; Treasure Seeker 100; Captain
Burnett, 9s; oberon. 1O7; Young Belle, 99i Sir
John, 11S
Fifth race seven furlongs selling-Knight Of
Ivanhoe 1909; Nebraska Lass, Emma G., Cabin,
1903; Gelico. 81.
Sixth race, seven furlongs selling-Galene
Gale Tansy 93; Mossback, 103; Dorothy Ann,
"Buena, 94 cavalena, Prometheus, 90; Charles
j. Harvey, 100
Apprentice allowance.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
HELENA ENTRIES

HELENA, Mont, Sept. 26.-Entries for Tues
day:
First race, 2:17 trot, purse s1OO0 mile heats.
three in hve-Irsh Alice Hakola, Cherry Dia-
mond, DR.. C. K. Cole, The Jester, Patsy Rice,
Minimum.
Second race. 3-year-old pace. purse $500
Helena Girl, McFall, Amos K, Ed Kermack.
Third race. selling. fve furlongs-Light, 102;
Bitter Sir, Red Bill, Philistina, Moorso, Pla-
toon, 107; Hiaco, Thomas Calhoun, no.
Fourth race one mile-Patriotic, Orilene. 104;
McNally, Kalserhoff, DR.. White, John j. Rog-
ers, Swede Sam, Hammermay, 109; Ell Caza-
der, 112.
Fifth race the Montana handicap, all ages,
one mile-Musgrave, 95 L. C. Widrig, 100i
Beauman, John Lewis, 1885, Roy Junior, 106;
Queen Lead, 101 Miles, Ill; Harlem Maid, ia.
Sixth race, selling six furlongs-Electoran
Fusileer Zoroaster, 113; Har6a, Little Butter
cup, ia; Rey El Tovar 116; Voting, Lola
White Badonia, Bonhls, Acquia, 49,
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
ANOTHER SECTION UNDER
SWAY OF RUGBY FADDISTS

BAKERSFIELD, Sept. 26-Repre-
sentatives of Bakersfield, Visalia, Han
ford, Tulare, Porterville, Lemoore'
Lindsay and Exeter high schools at a
meeting today at Tulare, by vote of
II to 4, declared for the game of Rug
by. A schedule was mapped out and
the first games will be played early in
October. This is the first season Rugby
has been played in the San Joaquin
valley and marks the passing of the
intercollegiate game. The annual val
ley track meet will be held at Hanford
on February rs.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
PLANS LONG VOYAGE

ELIZABETH, N. j., Sept. 26,-In a
twenty-foot catboar, built of driftwood
at a cost of $3.70, Il. H. Carlisle Of this
city will attempt to sail from New
York to Bermuda. His only compan-
ions will be his fifty pet chickens,
which he has raised carefully from
selected eggs laid by blue ribon win
ners. Carlisle expects to complete his
journey in week.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27

SOMEBODY is KIDDING

Somebody is doing an awful lot OF
kidding these days. In an article
published last evening it was stated
there would be no racing at Arcadia
this winter because the Baldwin heirs,
chief among them Mrs. Clara Baldwin
Stocker, have let their hair grow and
will not stand for the bangtails.
Great! It will be hard to make some
of the old-timers believe this, though,
especially those who were wont to
visit the Clara Villa in its palmy days.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
DODGERS SLIP A DOUBLE
TRIMMING TO PITTsBURe

BROOKLYN, Sept. 26.-Effective
pitching by Scanlon and Rucker won
a double header for Brooklyn from
Pittsburg today. The score in both
games was to 1.
The second contest was played in an
hour and fourteen minutes. Scores:
First game
Pittsburg /, hits 4, errors 2.
Brooklyn q, hits 8, errors 1.
Batteries-Leifielda and Gibson; Scan
lon and Bergen.
Umpires-Rigler and Murray.
Second game:
Pittsburg 1, hits 2, errors l.
Brooklyn 4, hits z, errors 1.
Batteries-White, Leever and simon;
Rucker and Miller.
Umpires-Rigler and Murray.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27

Philadelphia on Monday or Tuesday,
October II or Is. This would put the
Cubs at a disadvantage, as they would
have to make long jump after clos
ing their season on Saturday night and
then would have to play on foreign
grounds for the opening game of the
championship. This would require the
doubling up of the Chicago-St. Louis
game which ends the series at st. Louis
and st. Louis refuses to do this, ac-
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
.OXY SOPHS DOWN
FRESHIE5, 35 TO D
Class of 1914 Overwhelmed by
Heavy BuCking of the Expe-
rienCed Soph BaCkfieId

In the annual football game between
the freshmen and sophomores at Oc-
cidental college yesterday afternoon
the freshmen were overwhelmed by the
sophomores by a score of So to 0, and
the babes were taken off their feet
from the first blowing Of the whistle
The best play of the game was
forward pass worked by the sopno-
1nores from the twenty-yard line. Os-
borne, right end, WHO received the
pass, carried it over the freshmen goal
line for a touchdown. The teams were
lined up as follows:
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
AUTOS CRASH AT 70-MILE
PACE ON PRACTICE COURSE

MINEOLA, L. L, Sept, 26.-During
practice over the Vanderbilt cup
course today the Lancia car, driven by
Billy Knipper, was wrecked in a col
lision with the Marquette car, driven
by Robert Burman, and Knipper and
his mechanician, Guishard, were
bruised.
The Lancia car was making more
than 70 miles an hour when the acci-
dent occurred.
The wheels of the two cars came
into contact, the Lancia leaving the
course and pitching both of its oc-
cupants into an adjoining meadow.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27

PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 26-With the
pennant all but nailed down by the
Philadelphia and Chicago teams, the
most interesting topic in fandom is
when and where the worlds series will
open. 1t is evident that a baseball war
is due over this much debated point.
President Ban Johnson of the American
league and one of the three members
of the national commission states he
will try his best to force the start in
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
CLAIMS CASTING RECORD

BOSTON, Sept. ga new record
for distance salmon fly casting is
claimed for Rufus Leonard of this
city, who in the third annual tourna-
ment of the Anglers club of Massa-
chusetts cast his salmon fly 1876 feet
u inch, using a rod made by himself
twenty years ago.
Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-27
AMERICAN LEAGUE
AND BOSTON TIE
AT TIME CALL; LAJoIE HERO

CLEVELAND, Sept. 26-Cleveland
and Boston played a tie game today,
the contest being called at the end
of the ninth, each team scoring five
runs. Lajoie made three doubles in
four times at bat. Score:
Cleveland 8, hits 10, errors 8.
Boston 5, hits 8, errors 0.
misunderstanding, Fanwell and
Land; Cicotte, Collins and Madden.