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The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
BY HARRY NELLY.

Detroit is going TO have one OF
those rare. good things In baseball
splitter. lie Is Jack Lively, and
after talk with Fielder Jones, former
White Sox boss, Magnate Frank NaVin
thinks he has picked peach from the
baseball lemon tree.
Lively is an out-and-out, sure-enough
spit-ball pitcher in the full sense OF
the term. He depends almost exclu'
siyely on his wet ball varied with
fast one that possesses both steam
and break. lie is big, powerful TEL
low and a horse for work.
Fielder Jones saw him work often,
as he has pitched this season for Oak
land, in the Pacific Coast league.
Jones believes he will stick and when
I'm the city early this week. congratu-
lated Magnate Navin on having landed
a man worth while.
This Lively" Jones said. works
freely and easily. lie has the big
wide swing of the effective spit-bail
pitcher and moreover he knows where
the ball is going. I've seen him work
a lot this year and l think he Is
ready"
Manager Hugh Jennings used 10 be
a little prejudiced against spit-ball
pitchers and didn't think one was
worth having around, but the phe-
nomenal success OF Ford, OF the Yam
KEGS, this year. the Detroit leader has
sort OF ehanged~ his mind. In talking
over the recruiting OF players. before
departing for his winter home in
Scranton. Pa, Manager jennings said
II the club could get spit-baller VINO
could stand the opposition on his head
60 get him: no matter whether the
splt-ball isn't considered polite or not
so. Lively will be hauled south In
the spring, and will get a liberal train
ing and all sorts OF chance to show
If he IS good for anything. Time was
when the Tigers couldn't afford to
waste catcher dickeying with spit
ball pitchers, but now there are I'VE
active backstops. on the list, so II one
or more is damaged with crazy pitch
ing, there will be another to take his
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
EDITED BY
HARRY NELLY
TIGES WILL HAVE
GOOD SPIT-BALLER
JACK LIVELY FROM OAKLAND CLUB. CAN WHEEL EN-
ACROSS A LA ED WALSH AND FIELDER
JONES LIKES HIM

place. The backstopping department
as constituted now includes Oscar
Stanage, Charley Schmidt, Joe Casey,
Onslow and Henry Beckendorf. You
could whack finger OF two on some
OF the crowd, and still have a pretty
good catching department left.
This Lively in 1909 worked for Mont
gomery In the Southern association
and had an average OF .529, which he
got by winning Is and losing 10
games. His team finished $50. He
has been with Oakland OF the Pacific
Coast league this year, and his per-
centage is a whole lot better In a
faster organization. Further develop
ment OF the spit.ball IL responsible
for the Improvement.
Cleveland drafted this player from
Gulfport at the end OF 1908. but there
was a mixup by which title was al
legged TO rest between the Athletics
and Montgomery. so Lively did not
come north but stuck In the south At
that time.
There are certain clubs In the
American league against which spit
ball pitcher is particularly effective, 30
If this man Lively makes good, he
will aid materially In strengthening
the Tigers weakest spot.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
MICHIGAN MAY
CUT NOTRE DAME
Student Body and Athletic Directors
Sore Over Continued Eligibility
Squabbles.
BY LOREN ROBINSON.

ANN ARBOR, Nov. S.-Sentiment
on the campus at Ann Arbor Is
against continuing athletic relations
with Notre Dame. This feeling has
been growing steadily during the last
two or three years that the Catholics
have been playing the Michigan
teams and the recent agitation over
the ineligibillty OF certain Notre
Dame players has revived the feeling.
There has always been some ques-
ton as 10 the scholastic standing OF
the members OF the Indiana teams
and several times authorities OF other
schools have protested against diff.
ferent players, Michigan has had
more than her share of the trouble
and the student body is against hav-
ing further relations with Notre
Dame.
At the time OF the Notre Dame
game last year the authorities enter
ed a protest against three OF the
Notre Dame players AS the Wolver-
ines lost there was nothing ever done
about the affairs. Two OF these same
men are on this years team and they
are the ones that the Athletic associ-
alton, has been investigating.
Aside from these two occurrences.
the football relations with the Cath
olics have been pleasant. In base
ball, however. there has always been
bad feeling. Nearly every game for
the past two years has been the
scene OF some unsportsmanlike dis
turbance and in one or two cases the
quarrel ended in a fight. An official
at one OF these games was struck by
Notre Dame player and the act oc.
casioned a great deal OF comment
throughout the country. In all Of the
squabbles the Catholics have been
the aggressors. Now, the whole OF
Ann Arbor calls for a discountinuing
OF games with Notre Dame
As yet no official announcement OF
severing OF ties had been made, but
the directors OF the association hold
about the same opinion as the stud
ents and they will no doubt deliberate
for a long time before signing a new
contract. At present they are only
trying TO see that no men are used on
Saturday who do not come under the
6llklulllll Iuleb al -hitulkdu. ue
agreement this year was that the
games should be played under Mich.
igan's rules. Coach Longman has
taken all OF his freshmen from the
lineup but there are several other
men whose records will bear ques
tioning.
The varsity is working hard behind
closed gates TO perfect the backheld
and make safe any chance OF being
surprised by "Shortys" system
Rumors are afioat that a change In
right guard may be made at any time
but as yet Yost has made no moves
The team is still displaying that
Pep" that surprised the east at syria
cuse and is tearing great holes
through the scrubs. Everybody on
the squad is in fine shape and the
coach is satisfied with the work this
week. No one here doubts victory
on Saturday and many are willing e
prophecy four or five touchdowns.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03

over the team. The plan seemed an
ideal one. There was money in back
OF the new ownership. A host Of
enemies turned to friends.
But only disaster followed the
change OF ownership. thinner nZzled
as a manager. DUFFY did little better
and Murray, fought for by half dog
en- teams, while he worked an Inn
provement, could not make the Quak-
ers run one, two.
The narrowing accident OF 1908
when the hanging gallery OF the left
field bleachers collapsed and threw
dozen persons 70 death and many to
serious injury, cost the club more
friends, for not one OF the victims
ever recovered damage, the old own
ers escaping responsibility first by
shifting blame 10 the owners OF the
baseball park. Reach and Rogers, and
then by reorganiZing In Camden,
y. J.
Then came the purchase OF the club
by Durham Wolf and McNichol.
These three sportsmen, possessing
unlimited means and the all-powerful
backing OF the organization, looked
TO be the men TO turn the tide, but
they Jared as badly as their prede-
Cessors, the carnival of errors ending
in the ridiculous DOnlin incident,
when a man not connected in any
way with the club was permitted to
arrange a deal for the trade OF Magee
Tor the New York player, Donlin to
come here 20 manage. Murray S
nerve blocked that deal.
Then came the Fogel purchase with
cash unknown, but generally believed
70 come from c. r. Taft and Charles
Murphy, owners OF the Chicago club.
Foael Made Good Start.
Mr. Fogel had many friends, a big
personal following He named a pop
ular player as manager, he retitted
the grounds, and took a promising
bunch of players down south.
The team failed TO realize expecta-
tons and finished fourth, and to add
TO the pathos OF the situation, the
Athletics won the American League
championship and then the world 6
title.
But this misfortune might have
been borne, but for the present tangle
over the Cincinnati trade. Doom
was a new man TO the managerial
post The public did not expect i'm
possibilities Of him. They were will
ing that he should have another
trial
Now comes the tangle over the
trade II puts the club and President
Fogel in a most unfortunate position
His position that he should be con
suited before the making OF an i'm
portant trade is perhaps correct, but
what kind OF system Is II where
president and manager are so far
apart that such an important deal
would be arranged without frequent
coufarpucaa7
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03

opposition could usually 20 out and
collect enough TALES to win in regu-
lation time.
The Cleveland and Chicago clubs
made the other folks hustle. for they
took part In 90 Innings each OF extra
time. Chicago had at least one game
that was decided in every inning from
TO 10. Detroit. Cleveland and Bos-
ton ran UP as far as 10 without a
break
OF course, ten innings was the fav-
orite overtime period in which TO de-
eide battles. Just 81 were settled IN
that round. Ten less were decided Ia
the 18th. and il is strange coinci.
dence that the l2th' and l4th showed
Is each, while the 18th ended but six.
These figures are on a basis OF both
clubs and TO find the actual number Of
games should be divided by two.
The longest game OF the season was
between Chicago and Philadelphia.
and II lasted 16 innings. A table
showing the extrainnings contests.
follows:
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
BOUNCES BRICK ON
Johnson HEAD
Negro Pug Rides in Non-Union Taxi
and Receives Wallop From
Cobble Stone.

CHICAGO, Nov. S.-With a big cash
in his forehead and a firm determine
ton implanted in his system to keep
clear in future OF labor disputes OF all
sorts, Jack Johnson, champion pugil-
ist, is on his way TO New York today
To defend a suit which a theatrical
concern has brought against him for
S.. 900, claiming breech OF contract.
Johnson rode to the depot here In
a non.union taxicab. In the heart OF
the business district the vehicle
passed crowd of union drivers and
someone threw brick. 1t took John
son fair on the head, cutting It badly
and stunning him for a few minutes.
In a nearby drugstore the black cham.
pion was patched up till only q bad
headache remained.
AS soon as his case is disposed OF
in New York Johnson will go TO At
lantic City to show, and later will re.
turn to Chicago, where he IL billed for
short run.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
JENNINGS TO HOLD
SAND LOT SCHOOL
FOR YOUNG TIGES
TY COBB WILL SLIDE IN SAND AND YOUNG AND OLD
ATHLETES WILL HIT THE DIRT
AFTER HIS EXAMPLE

TO touch and at the end OF that leg
Is a spiked shoe which inspires more
or less terror. depending upon the
courage of the man who Is taking the
ball.
The skillful baserunner learns
whether 70 get away inside or out by
watching the baseman as be reaches
for the ball II the throw is low the
runner stands a better chance to the
rear OF the baseman, and II II Is high
he can come past In front with less
liability TO being tagged. The chief
object being 70 reach the base from
such an angle that the baseman VIII
touch the runner.
The straightin slide is used only
occasionally or because the runner
doesn't know how 20 getaway and IS
valuable when speed alone will reach
the desired base. Sometimes a man
slides head-first when he goes into
second on q throw from left field or
from left center, but the head-hrst
thing IL practically useless when the
ball comes IN front OF the baseman
and he can face the runner az he
reaches for IL
Sand To Mako Il Easy.
Manager Jennings plans TO tx UP
nice patch Of soft sand and viii In
struct the budding athletes and some
OF the older boys in the noble art OF
presenting TO the baseman as little
TO touch as possible Ted Easterly,
OF the Maps. Is out with the announce
ment that he will conduct his own
sliding school, as he considers himself
particularly weak in that respect
IL ought to be pretty easy for Jen-
nings TO instill knowledge OF sliding
into the Tigers because Ty Cobb can
serve as q good example. Hugh can
take the other fellows, line them up
and tell Ty TO slide Then he can
yell
Good boy, Ty, see what you can do
Bill" Then Bill will hit the sand
heap and the instruction can proceed.
Really. II Is one OF the best ideas of
the season and Jennings school prob
ably will find many imitators among
major league managers who have
overlooked this important part OF
baseball. Jennings ran such a school
in the gymnasium at Cornell, using
wrestling pads instead OF sand and it
worked
Knowing how TO slide ought to get
the Tigers a lot OF extra bases and
incidentally preserve no end OF skin
which might otherwise be scraped of
through lack of knowledge OF how TO
hit the ground.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
STILL WORK
BUNK GAME

MINNEAPOLIS. Mimi, Nov. a.
Henry Ordeman and DR.. B. f. Roller.
or Seattle, will wresue at the Mime
apolis auditorium, Monday night. Nov.
IA, for the American championship,
now held by the local man by reason
of bis defeat OF Kid Cutler, OF Chicago.
The announcement was made that
all arrangements for the match had
been completed.
And, Again, In PIttsburo.
PITTSBURG. Pa, Nov. 3.-Pitts-
burgers will have something 70 amuse
them besides the election returns next
Tuesday night, as a bout practically
for the wrestling championship OF the
world Is scheduled, DR.. B. F. Roller
and Stanislaus Zbyszko. the Pole,
graphing in the old city hall for the
title laid aside by Frank Gotch. II
will be the first big mat contest IN
Pittsburg for some time, and great
Interest is being manifested in the
outcome.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
BAN JOHNSON ISSUES HIS
ANNUAL JOINT MEETING Def

CHICAGO, Nov. 3.-President Ban
Johnson, OF the American league, has
again announced that the league will
not be ruled by the east, and that its
annual meeting this year will be held
in Chicago, instead Of New York. Also
that Chicago will be made the regu
lar meetlng-place and recognized as
the geographical center OF baseball.
The annual league meeting will BIO
held sometime during December, and
although the official announcement
now is that the American league mag
mates will gather here, no one is hold
Ing his breath till they arrive. Las.
year about this time Johnson made a
similar announcement, but when the
showdown came the magnates were In
New YORK when Johnson called then
70 order.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
WILL
BOX WOLGAST

SAN FRANCISCO, Now 3.-Despite
his failure 70 show his old-time form
in his match Monday night with la.
Grave, Battling Nelson is today signed
70 meet Ad. Wolgast. who lifted the
lightweight title from him. for the
championship Dec. q. Nelson still in
sists that with a month training he
will be as good as ever, and that his
greatest need is some preliminary
boxing TO regain his old accuracy in
Judging distance.
Few of the coast sports however,
have much faith in the ability of the
former Hegewisch terror To go the
route in a champ ionship battle II Wos
CASTS arm, which was badly injured
several months ago, regains its
strength, the Milwaukee lad Will un-
doubtedly be a big favorite.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
HOODOO PURSUING
POOR OLD PHILLIES
NOTHING BUT MISFORTUNE HAS MARKED TRAIL OF
NATIONAL LEAGUERS EVER SINCE
STARTING IN QUAKERDOM.

Here's a fine tale of woe from the
Philadelphia North American:
Apparently a hoodoo hangs over
the Phillies
Nothing goes right.
There are enough National League
partisans In Philadelphia TO make the
local club a great investment, II 1t
could only be properly handled, but
year after year something goes
wrong
No matter with what promise the
season 10 started, the finish Is always
disaster.
John |. Rogers didn't want to win
remnants. Arthur Irwin, one Of his
managers, is responsible for this
statement When one or more men
would have strengthened the club
and given il the additional strength
to land it in hrst place, Mr.. Rogers
blocked the deals, believing that a
second place had better money max
ing personalities than a pennant
winner
During the long Rogers regime
there were many great teams. The
lineup of 1900 and 1901 has perhaps
never been surpassed in hitting, field
ing and pitching strength. Every
man who went away became a great
star Some OF them helped win pen
nants elsewhere. but no flag ever
came 10 the Quakers.
The club passed to the syndicate
headed by James Potter. twenty-five
Philadelphians, animated by no other
motives than sportsmanship, took
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
EVERS MAY
QUIT GAME

CHICAGO, Nov. 3.-Johnny Evors
may not appear in the Cub lineup
next year. This information, coming
after the announcement that Orvie
Overall's pitching arm had been exam
ined and found 70 be as good as ever
by Bonesetter Reese, today put sud.
den reverse English to the hopes OF
Chicago fans for next year.
Evers. himself volunteered the in
formation saying that he was afraid
his ankle would not be strong enough
for him to play on In 1871 If the In
jured member does not feel strong, he
will not sign up, Johnny said.
The difficult plays come up time
after time at second" said Johnny to
day. and 20 cover my share OF the
territory have to have a strong limb
/ think a good rest would put me In
fine condition for 1912, but at any rate
] am going TO walt awhile before
sign a contract
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
LEARN CODE
WITH SPEED

Jimmy McAleer, manager OF the
washington Nationals, says that he is
satisfied that a good team can learn
q set OF playing signals in Is minutes
time. McAleer ought to know where.
OF he speaks. It's this way. jim was
boss OF the All-Stars. who won four
straights from the Philadelphia Ath.
letics just prior TO the time Connie
Macks boys became baseball cham.
pions OF the world.
The AlStars were a good team.
There is no denying that fact. Anv
team that can trim the Athletics four
straight times, even though the Mack.
men may have been travelling at low
speed, Is a good ball club.
Wen, 1t took Cobb, Speaker. Milan.
Elberfeld, Lord, Mcbride. Stahl, Street
Sullivan, Walsh, White and johnson
exactly 10 minutes to familiarize them
selves with the code Of signals they
used throughout the series.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
BY HARRY NELLY.

There is nothing small about little
Owen Bush except his size. The
Rabbit has a mind as big as all out
doors and liberality OF disposition.
There have been rumors all during
the season now past about differences
between Cobb and Bush, yet the lead
ing juvenile has nothing but praise
for Cobb.
A crowd was tanning at baseball
headquarters a couple Of days ago
when Bush switched onto sliding
Now, the slide is one OF the chief
things TO be desired in base running
and one OF the hardest 10 acquire.
Good sliders seem born and not made.
In diving back 10 base feet first
Bush splintered a bone in his ankle
and has been trying TO figure out ever
since how 1t happened.
Il hit the ground all right" Bush
says, land doubled my leg under me,
but something snapped and don't
know how 1t happened. l can slide
on my right side all right, but can't
get down on my left as | should. Its
seems funny, too, because most OF
the players rather favor their left
side.
Cobb ls a Wonder.
But, talk about sliding" Bush con-
tinued, "Ty Cobb Is the most wonder
full man in that respect | ever hope
TO see. He can get away on his right
side or on his >left and | have seen
him 20 straight into a base, feet ex-
tended and with his spikes right on
the ground. don't see how he
escapes injury. l guess his legs are
made OF rubber.
cobb goes into q base when he
has To like a shot Most men lose
speed when they hit the ground. but
he takes to the dirt and seems TO
shoot ahead at double the speed he
had when on his feet. I've seen him
60 straight In. strike the bag with
terrific force, double his legs under
him and come up standing II tried
anything like that I'd break every
bone from my knee down"
Hugh Plans Sliding School.
Speaking about sliding, Hugh Jen-
nings is going to have school for
sliders when the Tigers train in the
spring. Hugh has il ali figured out
Sliding is one Of the most neglected
of arts. For some unexplainable reason
sliding Is supposed 10 be one OF the
things a ball player learned while in
the minor leagues. AS a matter OF
fact most OF them never had any in
struction and always have tried to
hit the ground in a way that will do
them the least damage and let 1t go
at that
There are three kinds OF slides
eliminating the headlong dive straight
in, the inside fadeaway and the out
side fadeaway. To get away from
base on the inside, going TO second.
third or the plate, the runner doubles
his left leg beneath him and throws
his body away from and in front of
the baseman. touching the bag with
the right foot only. To get away on
the outside the runner bends the right
leg under his body throws himself to-
ward the outfield and touches the bag
with the tip Of his left toe. In both
instances the baseman had one leg
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
HARVARD MEN ARE PLAYING
BLACKBOARD FOOTBALL"

BOSTON, Mass, Nov. Black
board football" will take up most OF
Haryard's time until the clash with
Cornell on Saturday. The team was
given only the lightest work today,
most OF the time being devoted to Sc
cret signal practice and trick plays.
Although Coach Haughton has
warned his men all week that Cornell
will probably give them a stir game.
the players refuse to take the game
seriously and are predicting victory
by a score OF at least "a 10 0.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
CORNELL STILL THINKS
HARVARD VICTORY POSSIBLE

ITHACA, n. Y, Nov. Sin good
condition and confident OF making
better showing against Harvard than
last year. when the Crimson won by
1S to 0. twenty-five members or the
Cornell football squad will leave to-
night for Cambridge.
The students, who have visions OF
a possible victory over Harvard, Will
give the team a rousing sendon and
several hundred OF them will start
tomorrow for the battlefield. Coach
Reed refuses TO make any prediction
on the score He says II Cornell
doesn't get ratified, Harvard should
have her hands full to win.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
american league Teams
Play ~ Games i'm Overtime

Baseball players better form a
union; they're doing too much over
time. Just exactly p full games more
than the schedule, not counting the
tie contests, were played in- the Amer.
lean league during the season OF 1910
because neither team could get the
extra run required TO win In the regu.
lar period. These p games are llg.
ured on a basis OF nine fun innings
for each club participating In all the
fans OF the league received 37S inn.
ings over and above the regularly
scheduled number.
The distribution Of extra innings
displays some queer angles. Detroit
which finished third in the race was
next Washington and st. Louis In nun.
Der OF innings played beyond the reg.
ulation nine. Detroit labored 30 rounds
beyond what the rule book calls for.
while Washington showed 81 and ST
Louis 80. This may be accounted FOR
because the Tigers usually rallied
when occasion demanded, while St
Louis was such a weak club that the
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-11-03
TEAM IS
STRONG IN POLO GAME

NEW YORK, Nov. 3.--There isn't
a polo team in England capable OF
beating the Meadowbrook four in the
international match next spring, ac-
cording TO Capt Grenfell OF the
Ranelagh team. which has been tour
ing this country and Canada.
Grenfell will himself captain the
English team which will try 20 lit
the international cup. but he said just
before sailing for home that the best
he hoped for was that his team would
put up a stiff fight. The Meadowbrook
team. captained by Harry Payne whit
ney. Is considered by Ranelagh TO be
the best in the world.