Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-06-17


MI. Mann. There is a very great
diner ence between man represent
ing a constituency who votes him.
self to give himself $1,000 a year
and voting to ask somebody else to
require him to take $1,000 a year.
Mr.. Good. The gentleman will
concede they voted as far as the.
could to put the thousand dollar
salary in their pocket.
Mr.. Mann. | concede they accept
ed no responsibility to their con
stituents about raising the salary
from S40O to $1,000, and | dare say
If they had voted so most of them
would have been retired from the
Legislative halls.
Mr.. Good. Mr.. Chairman, move
not conceive that the sentiment ex
pressed. by the gentleman from Mis-
souri, lMr. Lloyd represents the
opinion of the minority side of this
House.
Mr.. Lloyd. do not say 1t repre-
scented the minority side of tn,
House.
Mr.. Good. understood the gen
tleman correctly. He said the mi
nority members of the committee.
Mr.. Lloyd. Yes; and there are
three of them present.
Mr.. Good. can not conceive
then. how the opinion of the minor
fly members of the committee rep
resent the opinion of the minorit!
OF this House.
Mr.. Mann. Perhaps II represents
the opinion of the majority of th'
House.
Mr.. Good. can not conceive
that party which has advocated
states rights. has advocated tina
each state should have the right Il
regulate these matters. should nov
turn around and say that the stat'
should have no. voice In the admin
istration of local affairs. The ter
ritorial legislature of Hawaii wa
called in extraordinary session, ant
It attempted to advise this Congress
what the people of Hawaii woul'
like In the way of an increase u
the salaries of those who hold Office
In the Territory, and 1t placed tn
salary of members of the legisla
ture at $1,000, and | think the mem
bers of the territorial legislator
are answerable TO their constituent
To some extent in making that rec
ommendation. The testimony befor
the committee shows that thes
members, coming from the differen
islands, are Obliged to pay 10 cent
mile each way for transportation
This bill shows but 10 cents pc
mile. All of this expenditure come
from the local treasury of the Terri
tory. Not n cent of II Is paid on
of the Treasury of the Unite
States.
Mr.. Lloyd. The gentleman say
that the total expense OF the legii
lative body comes out OF the Hawa
ian people?
Mr.. Good The salary for tn
of the territorial treasury.
Mr.. Lloyd. Is there not an al
Precipitation made by Congress
meet the expenses of the local legl
lature?
Mr.. Good Not for the salary
the members. There Is an appropr
alton for the salary OF the govern
and for the judges of the courts, b'
no appropriation whatever for q
salary OF the members of the legi
lature. That is paid entirely
local taxation; and | will say to q
gentleman that the people OF II
wall, irrespective of parties, belle
they would secure better legislati'
II they were permitted to pay Il
larger salaries.
Mr.. Lloyd. | may have misunde
stood the gentleman. understo
the gentleman to convey the Id
that the total expenses of all kin
of the legislative body were paid
the Territory of Hawaii, but the
Is an appropriation made to me
something of the expenses, part
the expense, OF the territorial 90
eminent.
Mr.. Good. That may be possib
had reference only to the matt
under discussion-the salary OF I
members OF the legislature-and
asmuch as those people who have
bear the burdens and pay the TAI
are demanding this increase, 1t h
considerable effect upon the subco
mittee and upon the committee
reporting this measure. The co
mittee's amendment does not 81
them as large salaries as the Il
payers are asking should be Civ
TO the members of their local leg
lature.
The Chairman. The question
on agreeing to the commit
amendment,
The question was taken, and
y chairman announced that
amendment was rejected