Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1910-08-04

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monthly report To the trustees, also The deposits
he had made in the County Treasury.
/ Q. But you never handled that money! A. No
/ sfr.
| o. stii you we're liable 10 the County? A. Well
I suppose 50.
the minute book where you kept me records OF
! the meetings, the amount appropriated by me
| County Board for the maintenance OF thdt M
| stitution? A. don't think so.
| .. Your opinion IS that you generally kept the
| expenditures In that book? A. We always kept
the expenses aud orders drawn and bills pre-
sented b. the superintendent. OF course the or
ders were drawn for those bills.
q. When you trustee did the trustees
| keep record Of all receipts of that institutiouf
| a. Only from month to month. aud don't
think there was any record made beyond the
supcrintendent's report.
.. Did you ever see a receipt book there cover
| ing receipts OF that institution from month To
month"; A. did not. II ever did | have for
| gotten.
| o. How did you determine that there were any
receipts? A. Simply from the superintendent s
| report.
| D. The trustees made out their report when
| y9u were trustcel +. Yes sir.
| .. Did the trustees write their own reporH a..
| No the secretary wrote the report and submit
| ted IL to the action of the trustees.
.. Do You know whether such report had ever
been made out by the superintendent aud then
handed To the superintendent 10 sgnF A. /
! think they were Invariably made out by the
| superintendent acting as secretary OF the trus-
/ tees. The law provides that there should be a
| chairman aud secretary.
.. Is II not fact Mr. Speuslcy, that the
/ minutes show rhat the secretary is chosen from
| the trusteesf For instance Mr. Billings Is now
/ secretary, but for his own convenience or ac-
cOmodation, whatever you choose to call IT,,
/ gets the superintendent TO do the work.
/ Q. Isn't the secretary remunerated 20 some ex-
/ tent Ia addition TO his per dernl A. Yes, think
/ he Is allowed either fifteen dollars or twenty
4 Rotary of that Board and he practiced the same
/ thing Mr.. Perkins did the work OF the secretary
and ticu they divided that amount
! o. Is IL not fact, Mr.. SpeuSlcy that when
| you had your meeting to make up your annual
/ report that Mr. Perkins r1ade the report OF the
money received from all sourccsI A. Yes ne
makes out the report, That is where he does the
sccrctary'- report II Is reviewed BY the trustees
aud submitted TO the County Board.
| Q. They are made from memoranda are they,
| the receipts from sales aud private paucntsl
| A, | think those were kept ia the secretary
! book.
O. You stated a few minutes ago that you had
| no recollection that there was such book Hou
| are assuming then that those sales aud the
money from private patients kept in the
secretary's book A. That Is my recollection.
] .. Did YOU ever list Of names OF the pri-
| vg'e patients aud the money paid by them each
| ear A. What do yon mean by private pa
/ q ntsl Those we received money for from this
| county,
o. Only as presented by the secretary. That is
all7 A. Yes, those names have been presented
! to the committee.
| o. You we're a trustee in I0O7-us we're you not?
| A. Yes believe SO.
| Q. Why did you report in those years that the
state paid Iowa County three dollars week for
its Home paticutsy A. Because the secretary
presented 10 the trustees the number OF patients
that had come from different places and had
enumerated what was due from the state or from
/ the county.
o. do not refer 70 what we call State patients
! or patients from other counties | refer simply
Co patients from this comfy. The trustees re-
port for these two years that they received the
same rate from other counties, three dollars per
week, when the County only ia fact received
$3.50 per week. A, I think Mr.. Chairman that
patients from adjoining counties pay three dol
lars per week.
0. They do, | admit that Our Iowa County
patients are credited with three dollars per
week as money received from the state. They
stated la that report that they received three
dollars per week A. Two or three years ago
the trustees raised the price and assessed those
patients more than they had previously paid
Some of the patients who were able to pay
three dollars per week paid it, and there were
Others that were not able who simply continued
to pay $50. The trustees raised this assessment
ON patients that were able to pay.
o. / refer To- the Iowa County patients. We get
$50 from the state. The question | asked is
why you report $500 per week instead of ~, 50 as
you did previously TO that. A. For those pa.
ttcnts that are regularly committed there the
County collects from the State ~ so per week,
don't know Mi Chairman, unless it was added
there on account OF equaliziug II, considering
that IL cost thc County sl.sO making il $500
Q. Bur they didn't get - from the State, only
$3.50, A. | know that, but then wasn't the Coun
a. enuued 20 a credit OF - per week.
A, Not when they didn't receive 10.
Q, While you were trustee were all the claims
that were presented 20 YOU for payment duly
signed 10y the party making claim A. lnvdria
bly,, II Is my recollection. These bills were pre-
scented at the sessions of the trustees aud very
often there was little discount, aud that was
always deducted.
.. In your opinion, YOU never allowed bin
that didn't have signature To IL A. Well,
should say not but may be mistaken. Now il
Mr Perkins would say lac had purchased som,
stock OF something else from So aud SO aud II
cost SO much aud lie has not presented bill
yet thiuk IL Is possible that might have been
allowed, but don't recollect an Instance of that
character,
o. Have You any recollection of the purchas,
of span OF horses at $3.50 and the claim had
not been sigued by the man who sold the horses
but was passed by the committee as claim for
this amount A. have no recollection of an in
stance of that kind, but ! think the trustees
would do that.
o. They would pass on il? A. think so.
think any trustee would do that IT they had j
superintendent they had fun coufd nee ia.
q. What way have the trustees of determining
whether the superintendent actually cashes or
ders of local dealers for supplies for the true
amount of the bill? A. We have no evidence
except the presentation of the bill.
@, You have no check on that at IllE A. II tn,
superintendent should make out false bills and
Sign other peoples names why
q. Have you ever checked up here with the
County Treasurer 20 see II the superintendent
put into the county funds all the money th,
trustees accounted for each year ia their annual
rrpurtt A. My recollection j. that individually
or personally we did not have amy check NJ
with him; all We had 10 go by was the receipts
presented by tne superintendent.
| Q. You never deposited any money In the
County Treasury A. Just that item that men
toned before.
o. You stated, Mr. Spcusley, that Mr.. Pcrltiu,
| acted as secretary; that the work was delegated
TO him by the SECRETARY that was chosen by thu
Board OF Trustees, A. Yes sir, they made some
arrangements
@. Did he copy the original minutes la the
journal while YOU were there or after ycu left
| A. As a rule the minutes were read from the
Journal and approved before We adjourned.
! q, Were those Minutes ever recousidcrcd at
your next monthly mectiugF A.. They were read,
| recousidcrcd, and while | was chairman ia.
variaby called for the minutes OF the last meet
ing, called on the trustees To make any correc,
tons or alterations that they deemed necessary
/ Q. Did Mr.. Perkins ever exhibit any weights or
checks for stock sold OF from any produce raised
/ At the institution, when he made record of the
money received a. / could not say, but Mr..
! Perkins would say that he had sold say a steer,
] that It weighed much aud he got much
| money for It. 1 don't know that ! ever called
on him To render statement from the buyer,
only his figures.
.. You just took his word for it2 A. Yes SIR
q. What was the salary OF wages for attending
the monthly meetings of the trustees A.
N10
q. Do YOU revolleCt of ever receiving a stipend
OF $500 A. 1 think do, IL seems Ia me that
( was out there great many times on some 5hCt1-
lions that were being made, and Il remember
right, my compensation was something like the
amount you specified.
Q. DO you remember what year that was2 A,