The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1910-03-02

nation
Il have letter from Secretary OF
Agriculture Wilson saying he desires TO
be present when any testimony is given
as TO the Dollircr letter. said Chairman
Nelson.
The examination was turned aside and
| a message sent requesting the immedi
ate presence OF Secretary Wilson,
Representative Mccall said he had been
requested to ask Mr.. Plncbot what part
Hctchy valey'to the city OF San Fran
cisco for a water supply,
THAT Is a very complicat ted question"
replied Mr.. Pinchot.
Too Long to Remember.
I'm the first place. the valley never
has been turned over TO San Francisco.
That action would have to be taken BY
the secretary Of the interior. Any action
on my part would be merely in an advis-
long ago | would like 10 have an oppor
tunity 10 refresh my memory before
testifying definitely The suggestion OF
Francisco and not from me-
The agreements as TO the Hetch-
Hetchy grants were called for by the
| committee
Asked concerning tho sending of Engi-
neer Gabriel Wingate TO Alaska TO ex
anime the Cunningham claims. Mr.
J Pnchot said he had never seen or heard
| of Wingate prior 10 the time he went
to Alaska for the forestry service. Win
! gate was recommended to District For
J cSteF Alien AT lOrtidnO tJl6NlS. w IN
! gate is the man who reported the Gun
aninSham claims worthless as CONNER
cial proposition"
When Secretary Wilson arrived he took
a scat beside Chairman Nelson.
Dolliver Letter Read.
Mr Pinchot then read into the evidence
| his letter TO Senator Dollivcr.
Did You consult with the secretary OF
agriculture before You wrote that letter.
| demanded Senator Nelson.
nh fnn6 eli
| examine the witness in some other par
| ticulars before this question was pressed
Mr. Pinchot was asked TO explain his
| statement in the letter that President
| Taft had been misled. lie said evidence
! before the committee showed Mr.. Bsllin-
| ger knew more about the Cunningham
| claims than any other man In the serr-
/ Ice, and proceeded 10 recite the various
/ facts that have come out at the hearing
''Eut did YOU know ali these things
al the time YOU wrote the letter TO Sena-
/ tor DolliVer?" intcrjected Representative
Olmstead.
II don't see that that makes any differ
encc. replied the witness.
We'll il was my question" said Mr..
! Olnstcad
i knew some OF the facts" said Mr..
| Pinchot.
I Did you know Governor Moore had
been sent TO Washington. for instance
Mr.. Pinchot declared he thought the
president had been mislcd, because in his
letter of September Is dismiSsing the
CLAWS charges he made no reference TO
MIR. B3lllneers action in clear-listinC the
| Cunningham claims on the strength OF
the Love report. which Love himself did
not regard as warranting any such ac-
ton.
Witness Grows Dramatic.
II subordinate of mine had taken
the action Mr. Balinger did" declared
the witness, drama stically. II would have
dismissed him either for corruption or
| Incompetence and wouldn't have cared
which. But the president made no refer
cncc 10 that act
And the property value involved was
how much suggested Attorney Pepper.
From fifty TO one hundred millions OF
What further have YOU TO say about
tho Ronald letter and the charges you
based thereon" asked Mr., Pepper.
II believe Mr., BallinCcr sent that let
ter 10 the president because nc wanted
the president 10 believe IL, and that the
president said to me he did believe 1t and
wanted me 10 believe it,
Mr. PinChot here read into the record
his letter OF dismissal from President
| TAFT.
Answer to Charges,
What have You TO say to the charge
that you were disrcspcctful 10 the prcsi-
dent?" asked MIR. Pepper
Fl contend that the expression of an
honest belief that the president had acted
under a misapplchension. is not disrc-
Spcctful."
What have you TO say 20 the charge
Of showing lack OF confidence in the
purpose of the president Ia take the de-
iense oi the people rights Into his own
hands,"
III tho president had signified his pur-
pose 10 take matters into his own hands.
7 would have been happy Ia leave ii
there. Eut the presidents letters showed
he would continue to leave 1t in Bsilin-
gers hands and thai he had great conf
dencc in Mr.. RalIingor."
What as to your being insuhordi
natc?'
Il was not. but I did not dosire to lax
stress upon that point for | should have
been iusuhordinate without second
thought. il 7 had considered II necessary
TO bring the facts before the public
Were you in .act tnsubordina te2'
Denies INSTRUMENTATION.
AS a matter of fact. ] WAS not. But [
and would rather not go into that ques-
ton"
WHY not" asked the WITNESSES at
torney.
Because it is not important and
would regret the necessity Of bringing out
a difference of opinion between Secretary
ful thing to get into a controversy with
him, and for that reason ! have kept
still"
senator Nelson pressed his question as
to whether MIR. Finchot had consulted the
secretary before sending the letter.
Refuses to Answer.
Nh Pinchot refused to answer the oucs-
tiou unless il was put by the whole COM
mittee. \ motion to press the question
was put and unanimously carried,
Did you consult with the secretary
before sending that letter." rcpea ted
Chairman Nelson
II did
The witness proceeded 10 explain his
answer by saying he went tn Secretary
Wilson January and told him Sena-
tor DolVcr had requested information
from the forest service aud that the sec
rotary made no objection,
eve discussed at some length. tho
right Of Senator Dollvcr To get the In
formation from nc. As to the presidents
order forbiddine subordinatcs Ia give in
formation 10 congress, Secretary Wilson
said
Believed Wilson Consented,
''You and 7 will have no trouble aboGt
that order words to that effect. /
believed I had his consent ] believe |
described to him the situation between
the interior department and the forest
service told him OF tho intention OF
our opponents 10 magnify what ha'l boon