New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-10-28
| HANDS OFF, SAYS FOCEL
Calls On League President to
UnraveI Baseball Tangle.
Mr.. HERMANN UP IN ARMS
Will Fight to Hold Players Sc
cured in Trade with Doom,
of the Phillies.

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Philadelphia. Oct 27-Horace E. Fogel,
president of the Philadelphia club, called on
Thomas J. Lynch. president of the National
League to warn August Hermann. presi-
dent of the Cincinnati club, not TO tamper
with the Philadelphia players, who, Mr..
Fogel says are all officially in good stand
ing with his club, and who were exchanged
by Charley DOOM, manager of the Phillies,
for four Cincinnati players, a deal which
Mr.. Fogel has repudiated
The action followed an exchange of tele-
graphic dispatches between Messrs. Fogel
, themselves in forcible terms. President Fo-
gels message read as follows:
My decision is final. 1 was not party
10 the DEAL and as the only representative
OF the Philadelphia club with any author
ity to sanction it, I have not signed the
agreement. It is void and has no legal
standing in baseball. McQuillan, Moren.
Bates and Grant are on the Philadelphia
clubs reserve list, and Cincinnati must not
negotiate with them.
To this August Hermann replied:
"Our decision is also final. We hold that
the agreement between Managers Griffith
and Doom is binding, and it is not for the
Philadelphia club alone TO determine wheth-
er the agreement is void and has no legal
standing in baseball This will be sub
mitted 10 the proper authorities at the
proper time. We contend that title to Nc
Ouilian. Moren. Bates and Grant now Is
vested in the Cincinnati club and will enter
into negotiations with all of them for their
services for next year and assume Gil re-
sponsibilities In connection herewith.
These messages showed that the attempt
of Mr.. Fogel to call off the deal by which
the four Eastern players were to be ex-
changed for Lobert, Paskert, Beebe and
Rowan. of Cincinnati, is destined TO result
in an appeal to the national commission
Mr. FogeI later held conference with
Frank S Elliott and William Conway, part
owners of the Philadelphia club. MI
Elliott who is A lawyer. stated that the
owners OF the club will support Mr.. rogers
action In the matter of the Cincinnati deal.
and that they believe Doom did not fully
understand his powers as manager.
In all probability President Lynch VIII
call a special meeting of the board OF oil
rectors to settle the controversy. speaking
further on the subject this afternoon Presi-
dent Fogel said:
NO player can be released or signed
without my signature to the papers as
president, and this Cincinnati deal is off
for good, not only because of Dooin's &C
ton, but also because of the way Mr. Herr
mann has acted in the matter
Mr. Herrmann's threat to take the case
TO the National Commission is too ridicu-
lous to talk about. It is entirely National
League affair and the National Commission
has nothing to do with it,
President Fogel added that if Mr.. Herr
mann did attempt to take 1t to the COM
mission. of which the Cincinnati president
is the head. the Philadelphia club would
go further and take the matter TO the
courts.
Asked If President Murphy of the Chi
cago club had requested him to hold up the
deal or was interested In the exchange OF
players Mr.. Fogel said reports to that
effect were absolutely untrue. He said he
had not received a telegram, letter or other
communication from Mr.. Murphy. He adj
mitted that he tried to trade MCQuillan for
Reulbacn or Brown or some other good
Chicago pitcher but that nothing came OF
it. There is nothing wrong with the Phil
adeIphia team" he said. ''All we need is
some good pitchers. Grant and Bates are
good men and satisfactory to lie.
The rumor will not down that Charley
Murphy is interested financially in the Phil
adelphia club, and that he objected TO the
deal with Cincinnati being made.
Charles S. Doom, manager of the Phillies,
carried out his threat by mailing his resig-
nation to Mr.. Foge1 this afternoon. He
said: Il do not propose TO be a dummy
want to-.
Doom is still under contract 10 the Phila-
delphia club and must play or be outlawed
even if his resignation as manager is &C
cepted.
In speaking Of Dooin's resignation. Mr..
Fogel said: ,
II do not take Doom seriously. | believe
that he will cool down and view this matter
in the proper light. 1 waited I'm my office
until late in the day expecting a visit from
him. but he did not put in appearance.
or course | cannot take any action upon
the alleged resignation until 1 receive It"
Doom states that he will not go to the
office of the National League, in this city,
to see FogeI. "Fogel has got TO come and
see me-" he says,
Both Doom and Fogel were present Mt a
banquet given by the owners OF the Phila-
delphia Athletics to the worlds champions
tonight and occupied seats where their
elbows almost touched, but neither APP
peared anxious to discuss baseball