Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1910-08-04

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! OF ten or twelve thousand he would take
/ that money out and deposit ii in the Min
eral Point bank. The orders were issued
and he would drive over to Mineral Point
| the next day and doubtless get all that
money and pay IL out.
q. How long did that continue? A. 7
4 cannot recall. A. you can find the min
! utes when JeugK was on the Board
q. Didn't other trustees net IN that ca
] pacity. serving as treasurer in such Il way?
1 4. don't recall any one hut Jeuek
/ q, Do you remember that james SpcDs.
/ ley was treasurer of the trustees at one
time? A. Yes sir.
a. Did he handle any money? A. I
q. DO you remember settlement with
| James Spensley made in 1887, at the time
| the county funds were supposed to he taken
! cai g OF by the county treasurer. A. can.
! not recall nything.
! q. You don't remember any check mss
ing between the Trustees and Mr.. SpensIev
| for s7Oi which he claimed was tha amount
due him at that time? A. | don't remem-
o. You don't remember check beino
paid out of the County Home fund for n
! little over 500 on that same settlement? A
| No sir. I know that years ago they used 10
| borrow money and give their rsonal
notes, that III they ran short of what was an
( prOpratcd they would borrow money mn
/ ti the next appropriation. Mr.. Goats and
| Mr.. Spensley have borrowed money that
O. 1t is true that in the period of M
/ proNimately 1887 that the county TREASURY,
became the depository OF the funds OF the
I Institution? a. Yes sir. They borrowed
money from the banks and gave their per-
sonal notes. This order may have been
/ drawn.
O. / will read you what the minute book
says. Reads minute book
WlTNEss: That is to pay OFF note | am
satisfied. This is where they borrowed
money and gave their personal notes.
q. BY the wording OF the minutes here
would you think he was entitled to S20i but
in place of that he received II check for 500
and sos out Of the Poor fund? A. Icannot
answer that That is the only way / can
see that 1t was. lt was to pay OFT money
borrowed on personal notes.
| q. You state that you wrote the minutes
| out generally? A. Yes.
c. You always wrote the orders? A.
would sometimes, Most of the time.
think for some years. | am fast at writing
and it was by their instructions.
/ q. Then you had the two trustees sign
those orders? A. Yes, | never wrote an or
/ der only in the presence OF the trustees.
. would sit there and write orders and they
would take the bills and look over them and
! all that.
/ q. You did that ever since you were sup
{ erintendent did you? A. No sir Not i'm
. James l.. Jones' time or Ole Steensland's
time. But from that on, you can see by the
minutes they are mostly in my hand writ
ing.
q. They wrote their own except those
1 that you mentioned? A. Yes sir. / most
! generally copied the minutes.
q. DO you know whether the clerk of the
! trustees was granted a salary for doing the
work OF Clerk! A. Wen, he got fifteen
dollars extra.
O. Did you every participate in that sal
AIRY? A. Yes. Sometimes they would say
Here you have done the work. and
would say don't want all.
q. There was a division made? A. Yes
did the work mt their solicitation.
4 q. Did they authorize you to do that In
the minutes Of the meeting? A. cannot
answer that.
] O. 1t never appeared In the minutesY A
| was never afraid of work
/ q. You didn't do that work for the rea-
son hat you thought the men that were
trustees were incapable OF doing the work!
A. No sir, just assumed
q. Did any clerk ever kick on you doing
that Kind OF work? A, No sir. If he did, /
wasn't pushing to get the Job. | wasn't
anxious to get 1T. There were no objections
or anything OF the kind.
e. Were you present generally at the an
nual meeting where they got up their an
] nuul report? A. Yes sir.
O. Did the trustees make out this annual
reportl A, NO sir, l nave'always made out
that report
q. From what did you make out this re-
! port? A. 1t Is made out at the end of the
fiscal year. Some years ago 1t used to be
September 5Oth, and later June Both.
q. From what data? A. Up to the fiscal
year 1t was made out
q. 1t is not the time | am referring to.
From what facts did you make out vour re-
4 port? What figures did yov have? A From
the minute book, from bills aud k..-~.....asasa
: u. now dlu you arrive Nv tnb receipts
a. used to give them from time SO time
the money that was turned in / always
did that. After / sold anything | would
make "A minute OF 1T.
/ q. Did you retain that book? A. think
so.
q. You never kept IA record book? A. No
sir.
I @. Did you ever think 1t was very i'm
portant foryou to keep record of the re-
ceiptS of that institutionI A, am aware,
yes.
/ n Donit va. tbf,t- N L,,,I. - ,.o,ot,t, 81
any institution is necessary for the proper
settlement OF any buSinessl A. | VIII ad-
/ init II, but kept 1t satisfactorily 10 my
! self, but probably up to a business point OF
view it should be kept / know this much.
Ho take the way make out report Every
name that get any money from appears
on the books.
! q. Did the trustees know when they bad
i an appropriation, how much would be left
/ IN that appropriation as they went along
\ they knew what the appropriation was and
what the expenditures were.
q. How did they know it2 A. We al
/ ways knew how much was appropriated.
q; You didn't carry 1t In the minute
book 4, 1t was never put I'm the minute
/ BOOK. Never from the time of the old poor
4 house; Back in 1881 they put IL in.
q. Did you report sales that you made
/ during the year MT their monthly meetings,
4 or ala you report them at the end OF the
! fiscal yearf A. At the end OF the year. 1
would tell the board when they met that I
7 had sold some steers or some horses II
had stock or anything to sell. | would say.
/ Come out and look at it, and probably
3 they would come and probably they would
/ not. have always told them If -
! q. Did you exhibit any papers or W gifts
/ when you made those sales? A. | have,
/ yes.
/ q. The trustees examined these. did
| Ihey' A. cnnnot say that they did.
I u. just took your word for IL Mr. Per-
/ kins! A. Yes sir, they took my word for
/ IL. 81 course when the report was made
out, II showed on the report.
4 Q. You stated that you generally made
/ tire report including the recommendation
That you generally asked OF the board? A.
The recommendatiC rs were never put in
our report, that is the recommendation of
MhAt would be needed In the ensuing year.
we always asked them verbally through
the committee of which you have been
members and we always asked a certain
amount appropriation that would be ne
ceSsary TO tide us through the ensuing year.
V. 80 when the trustees came to their
meeting TO make up theiTannual report you
had the report all ready with the exception
| OF their signing ~ A. Yes sir.
a. They looked over the report then did
they and signed IT. A. Yes sir.
z. Dld you ever sign the report for any
trustee! A. Yes, with their Instructions
sometimes would finish up all but writing
lhe last page and | would say, 1T isn't
finished, and they would say / could sign it
for them
q. VIII you tell this committee how you
haa tlo, " appropriated in the minutes OF
TINS Institution last year instead OF $4,000?
a. Yes sir. We asked in the first place for
AS,uhu, ana said, Here, boys when they