The Washington herald., 1910-05-18

tectives and gum-shoers last September
at time when he had just returned
from an extended absence in the West
and had had nothing to do with the con-
troversy up TO that point. Lawler did
not make his cause for apprehension ex-
actly clear, and there was another diver
sion. in course Of which Mr.. Brandeis ex-
planned how he had acquired such minute
knowledge as TO the movements of Secre-
tary Ballinger and his associates. which
had led TO the suspicion on their part
that they had been Swallowed All his
information. he said. had been CLEANED
from the records in the case and from
newspaper files, and neither he nor his
associates had found IL necessary to en-
plOy detectives.
Tells Of HIS Memorandum.
When Mr. Lawler resumed his testi-
mony he told how he had taken his
memorandum. with all the copies, TO New
York where he had met Attorney General
Wickersham. 20 whom he had delivered
one copy. He had then proceeded to
Beverly where he delivered the original
and the remaining copies to the President
From that day until last Saturday !
never saw the document" he said He
then detailed a conference with the Attor-
ney General last Saturday. and the find
ing by the Attorney General Of a copy
among the papers in his department. lie
had been called on TO identify H. and In
order 10 make his identification certain
the President had sent him the original
copy Of the document. which he there
upon produced for the committee Mr..
Lawler denied that the publication in the
newspapers Saturday Of Kerbys state
ment had had anything TO do with expe-
diting the finding Of the Attorney Cen
erals copy OF the document. and it's
transmission 10 the committee saturday
afternoon.
On beginning his discrimination OF
Mr. Lawler. Mr.. Brandeis asked him first
II he knew Harry White. one Of the claim
ants Of Alaskan coal lands, and the wit
ness said he had a slight acquaintance
with him. Were you introduced % him
| by Secretary BaIinger?' asked Brandeis.
mo. sir" replied LAWYER Mr. Brandeis
/ took VI HIS various calls for documents
which had been framed 70 call forth the
production OF the Lawler memorandum.
LAWYER recalled them all. and said they
had been called 10 his attention at the
department. and he also identified his re-
plies to the committee.
Says He Did Not Evade.
IN this answer Of your" said Mr..
Brandeis, indicating one in the record.
you knew. did YOU not. that you were
evading The cali Of the committee?"
Il did not evade." retorted Lawler We
hemently, ''and your Implication that I
was guilty Of an evasion IS a lie"
Now ! cali upon the chairman 10 ad-
monish the witness began Mr.. Bran
deis. but there was a general stir OF pro-
test among members Of the committee.
I think the witness is displaying undue
heat said Representative DENLY. L
think the witness should withdraw that
remark"
I move that the witness remark re-
/ fecting on counsel be stricken from the
records said Representative James.
NO objected Representative Graham
Il think it should remain in the record
as II gives character TO other testimony
of the witness"
'On that ground I withdraw my mo-
ton" said James.
Representative Madison squared around
in his seat and addressed Chairman Mel
son. Il think the chairman should say 10
this witness that he should withdraw his
remark. he began. adding his comment
that the witness was a lawyer and was
D r. inc Of Al.
lawyers make poor witnesses.
Senator FIint's Expression.
Il don't think you have any right 10
comment on the testimony Of witnesses, ."
interrupted Senator Flint
Il have the right 10 make such COM
ment as I see fit" Tetorted Mr. Madison.
and I shall make IT, This witness has
been guilty Of an improperly. and it
! SHOULD not go unnoted."
Whereupon Mr. LAWYER offered his
amends to the committee. The witness
attention was called by Representative
James to his reference TO Mr.. c. p. Con
nelly. the magazine writer. as a man who
had trampled women and children under
feet in panic on a sinking steamer 7
am informed by reputable newspaper men
that you are doing Mr.. Connolly an in
justice" said Mr. James.
Il am Informed that Connolly is the
| man who did what said" replied Law
Ter. 1T was on the occasion Of the burn
ing OF the steamer Republic"
But If you are mistaken, you don't
want 10 do Mr.. Connolly an injustice do
you?" insisted Mr.. James.
IF am mistaken. OF course, want TO
| correct my mistake" said LAWYER. but I
have great deal Of contempt for this
Connolly. who is connected with Col
| lier's."
The committee will resume the hearing
on Thursday. with Mr.. Lawler again on
the stand under cross-examination by Mr..
Brandeis.