The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1910-03-25
NBW YORK STTRS UP IDAHO
~ INCOME TAX TAIN ar ECO
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Eight hundred men attended the ban
auet Of the Economic Club last evening
At the Astor and listened 20 a discusalou
Of the question. should the pending
Amsndment 10 the Constitution permit
ting q Federal income tan bs adoptsdi-
|, The speakers for the amendment wers
Lawson Purdy and Senator Borah Of
Idaho and thoae opposing IL william d
Guthrie and Austen q. Fox. IL was good
solid meat. in the ArGumsntative sense
that was put before the SOD for two hours
but Senator Borah Interested q little fun
at the beginning Of his speech by coming
hack a. Mr.. Guthrie for some pretty harsh
things the New York lawyer had said about
Idaho.
1 Mr. Guthrie had said among other things
that Of all the great sums the national
Government had spent. money Of the
whole people. on idaho. not a cent had
Idaho paid back. and that whereas when
New York wanted money 10 build docks
she went down into her own pocket for
70 Idaho and the States Of the West
when they wanted such great public
improvements called upon Congress for
the money And he had added:
In Ises-ea. a time Of war New York
paid into the Governments revenue
tss. O0O.OOO. How much did Idaho raw
Not a dollar. And IL was the same way
with the other Western states that now
are clemOrinG for Ne to take down the
hars and lot them vote away our money
az internal revenue for Isee New York
PAID s2s .O0OO0 aud Idaho slOi .OOO-
| When Senator Hcrah took the roSl rum
he said that before beginning a speech
u seemed wise to clear away a little under 20
brush. and he proceeded tO remark.
MIR. Guthrie says that when you here
in New York want money you go into
your own pOcksts foE it. Well, in the name
II Justice. where else should YOU gog
You've got IL all. IHurrahs want
TO tell Won also that the money the ma =
tiOnal Government pant into the forest
reserve that has taken One-third ~ our
state away from N was put there against
uur wishes and 10y the votes ~ the Fast
You're trying nov 10 make the Idaho
reserve nav tor the contemplated An
palachian reserve. and I'D be rather glad
~ see YOU get little of the reserve medi-
zine. We can't 60 INTO One-third 20 our
State without asking the permission II
the national Government and uniformed
and Unframed attendant guardian. And
! might tell you IA an aside that into the
Idaho forest reserve you could put the
whole of New York state and lose H.
I l-Oood. Good You're all right.
| Borah.l
And a. for get tang money from the
Federal Government well. whenever a
man gets an acre OF arid land that has
| been reclaimed out IN Idaho he pays
every cent hack 90 the Government he
fore he gets = clear title. But when you
go TO Congress and get appropriations
TO clear out your willow creeks here in
New York where . duck couldn't hoai
one month in q year YOU don't ray hack
a dollar Of II. Good p~Ople a. you are
you have a suspicion % q man from west
! 81 the Alieghanies. mo. mol ! don't
mean that Won suspect him of being dis
honest IL you did you'd probably expect
.o find ham living here in New York %
Politics by direct reference came into
the discussion tNice. once IN senator
BoTah's speech and once in AIR. Guthrie =.
Senator Borah IN expressing hts liking
I for the good people II New York and HE
admiration Tor Gov Hughes aaid that he
hoped some time 20 have the honor to
bring an Idaho dsl@gation to votk for
Gov. Hughes for the Presidency of the
nation His statement vas applauded.
Mr. Guthrie's reference 70 politic- came
when he was taking OF senator Aldrich' =
statement that a. 4 business man he could
ran the GovernmAht and save sS0O 0O ono
year. that's true. said Mr. Guthrie
and u - uncontradicted. What docs ia
mean II means that under that moons.
tax amendment So. on. O0O 10 SIS 0o0 On
~ New Works money would he wasted
And II means that n the man now in
charge - New Works government were
IN charge 40 Washington that money
would b" saved. Laughter and hesi-
taung applause know that's not good
politics. for ! am a Republican BUT let
rs Republicans try To learn something
For just a. sure a. the world II We don't
we'll meet our Waterloo IN November
! SENATOR Borah in the Course of his
spsech also said that the author % the
| income taX amendment more than any
other man IL Elihu Root % New York =
and he spoke ~ the corporation tan AZ
the Infamous subteTfugs' replacing the
/ Incoms tax
Mr. Guthrie in combating the statements
that q direct tar nv apportionment ac-
cording Ia population would work
injtlsticA To the Western States said The
thirteen original states own 90 per cent.
81 the wealth % the country and thsy
have y per cont. 81 the population.
Where IL the injustice of apportionment
| Of direct tax among the StateaS Mr..
Root says take the risk involved in this
amendment. Gov. Hughes eAys don't
take the riak Cthas tho TAI would bs laid
upon state and municipal bondsl. No
lawyer advising q private client would
! think Of telling him that under this amend
ment the national Government could
not and might not tar state and municipal
bonds.
/ And there IL one thing important to
remember: N this Sixteenth Amendment
he adopted there will no longer be any
check on Congress and they can take any
! property they find in any State and lay
on u the expenses of government More
over they can exempt anything. a. IN
the act 81 1894 they eHsmptsd Incomes
below $4,000 and a. the patriots Of the
French revolution taxed those whose
/ incomes were abundant ~ par cent.
and those whose incomes we're super
nuous ion per cent Inder the giiss ~ a
| forced loan'-Just deciding what they
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