Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1910-07-02
SHOWS VALUE Of
HOUSE Of LORDS
Writer in Ladies Field Points
Out Good Services II
Has Rendered,
LOWER HOUSES DEBT
Commons Present independence Due
10 the Lords own lni-
tiatve.
LOWER HOUSES DEBT

NJ pourings Of suggestions FOR confer
w ences and rumors OF reforming the
House Of Lords by compromise methods
instead n permitting the radical sections
OF the liberal party 70 start the work
with "sledse- hammer tactics 10 IT. vari.
Gus ends, there Is much pessimistie talE
heard that to maintain political peace dur
ing the Early period Of Klng Georges reign
may be unavailing
n compromise council er'cr. upon the
problem It Is needless to say that the
formal conference may be- very consider
ably prolonged The questions 20 be dealt
With are not only Of a constitutional i'm
portanoe hardly exampled since the Ia
nous Parliamentary settlement OF 1889,
but they are complex and nterdependcnt.
In the noted transactions Of 1894 upon re-
form and Redistribution there were re-
peated and formidable bitches. The
negotiations then took over four months
TO complete Current talk In Ministerial
circles Is that IN case a formal conference
fats 60 ind a compromise basis, a general
election may take place next winter.
The so-caled problem OF ''the peers and
the people" is not one to be settled-pro-
vided Il IL settled right-in hurry. Even
II compromise wins and conferences be-
tween committeeman designated by union
lists and liberals take mp the question,
there are likely 20 be many adlournments
and extended discussions History shows
that both the houses now In conflict, the
Lords and the Commons, have rendered
equally good and equally bad service to
Great Britain Mt various times.
There was but one house, the Commons,
whom oliver Cromwell was the political
boss OF England, and yet It was Cromwell
himself who. after Its four years indie
pendent sway. pronounced that lower and
only body "the horridest arbitrariness that
ever was IN tho world" And. readers OF
history will admit. Cromwell was fairly
good judge OF 'arbitrariness.
GREAT BATTLE TO COME.
II seems likely. therefore, that whatever
the tactics which may be adopted the
coming months are likely to be made not
able by a formal attack on the House OF
Lords such as has not been delivered for
go years, unless the political weather vsne
should suddenly shift to other than antici-
pated positions Just what the relations
Of the peers and the people" have been
has been set forth in special article IN
the Ladies' Field, which IS probably more
briefly pot than could be done by one who
has studied this historical chart step by
step.
How little that House Of Commons OF
1910. existing supreme for tho moment,
really represented the peoples voice OF
that day has been shown. II had attained
Its position when during those unheeding
weeks Englishmen, after beheading their
King. proceeded to vote the House Of Lords
"A useless and dangerous" body. That
vote was recorded on February 6, 1910 and
with its passage the very body which had
50 often defended popular rights against
the encruachments OF the Crown was
temporarily dispersed by the so-called rep
reSentatVes OF the people. Then came
Cromwelrs denmciation OF the Commons.
which he had aided IN creating A FEW
moro chaotic years, and England. tired OF
experiments with a broken constitution,
returned to It's well tried government by
King Lords and Commons and the use
less and dangerous" body again came into
It's own. 70 the great pront OF the
democracy.
In tho far on days OF King John" as
serts the article referred 90, the houses
OF Parliament as We know them did not. OF
course, exist But representatives OF the
people are known to have attended the
National Assembly. or Council, held at St
Adams in i2i2
Dealing with more recent history many
other instances are found where the peers
successfully commended Tor civu liberties
and proceeded 20 remove the occupant Of
the throne when such liberties were threat
ened.
CONVICTION OF BACON.
In 1871" continues the article the
great Francis Bacon, then Lord High
Chancellor Of England. was impeached by
the Commons and found guilty BY the
Lords OF receiving bribes from the suiors
Bacon fully confessed the twenty three
articles or corruption laid TO his charge
Three years later. also on the Impeachment
Of the Commons, the Lords convicted an
other menber Of their own House. the
Earl Of Middiesex. Lord Treasurer OF
England, for bribery and other rnlsde-
I1es-aSrH~
T-ne confirmation OF the revolution Of
lOSs-entitled an ACT declaring tho Rights
and Liberties Of the subject and setIeing
the Succession Of the CroWne'--Ssas
passed by the Lords in octot-,r. 1879. tho
peers thus confirming by this Biu OF
Rights, the third great charter OF Eng
lish liberty and the coping stone OF the
constit utioffad building" In the same
year the peers introduced q bill for
establishing triennsal Parliainents ThtS
reform later led. again on the initiative
of the peerA TO the bin for septennial
Per1eInentsA This mealsure though intnn-
duced In the upper House. WIS fought by
the tories, but ultimately became law
forming. Il was said. the era % emanci-
patton OF the British House Of Commons
from It's former depcndance on the
Crown and the House OF Lords"
80. II Is argued, the Commons owe their
own independence TO the initiative OF the
Lords exercised M their behalf more than
~ couple Of centuries ago.