Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1910-07-28
SCHILLER DENIES
USE OF PROFANE
TALK At HEARING
Investigators of East Orange
Council Hear Playground
Commissioners Story.

The public hearing last night accord
ed TO Fairgrounds Commissioner Joseph
Schiller. OF East Orange, concerning
his alleged profanity In a conversation
with John Agar. OF Grove place, whose
property adjoins the East Orange Oval,
resulted In a question Of veracity be-
tween the two men. Mr.. Agar was not
present at the hearing. Mr.. Schiller
declared that he had not used the
word damn" in a direct sense, but
merely repeated to Mr.. Agar words
used by another person. On the other
hand, Mr.. Agar's sworn affidavit
specifically states that Mr.. Schiller
used "profane and insulting language"
The controversy arose about a year
ago when Mr.. Schiller, as a committee
Of one appointed by the Fairgrounds
Commission. called Upon Mr.. Agar to
effect some agreement whereby base-
balls which were batted into Mr.. Agar's
yard might be recovered. 1t was dur
ing this conversation that Mr.. Agar
swears Mr.. Schiller used the objection
able word. No mention, however, was
made of the conversation until Mr..
Schiller's term had expired in June
last, when the affldavit was produced,
and Commissioners Schiller's r~eappoint-
ment was held UP pending an investi-
cation.
Commissioner Saxelby. chairman Of
the committee of the East Orange
Council which is investigating the az
fair. asked Mr.. Schiller last night
whether the fact that he had a~pologized
to Mr.. Agar did not constitute an ad-
mission of the use of the profane Ian
guage.
Did Not Admit Using Profanity.
mo, 1t was hardly an admittance,"
aid Commissioner Schiller. IT merely
old Mr.. Agar that II I had hurt his
feelings in n way by my conversa-
ton with him I was sorry for It. When
l left Mr.. Agar we had reached a per-
feet understanding, and Mr.. Agar
agreed to withdraw the affldavlt In
the conversation with MI. Agar con-
Corning the returning of the basebnfis
l know I used nc language other than
| would use in a strenuous conversa-
ton"
But, Mr.. Schiller" Interrupted
Chairman Saxelby, q I saw the afi-
davit, 1t contained the word damn"
Well" answered Mr.. Schiller, ri
went to see Mr.. Agar. We had an
animated conversation Previous to
this one OF the players on the play
grounds said to me that he was willing
to subscribe a sum OF money for the
erection of a fence which would pre-
vent baEs being batted Into that 'damt
crank's yard And continued Mr..
schiller, Il may have repeated those
words to Mr.. Agar. as being told me
by a third person, but I dor't think so.
1t Is not my custom to use thai void,
DO You absolutely deny havine.made
that remark z" asked Chairman Saxel-
by.
i absolutely deny having called him
a damn fool and IL damn fool was
used 1t was in connection with a third
party" said Mr.. Schiller.
= have been a Fairgrounds commits
Stone for n n a half years." con-
tinued Mr.. Schiller. land my appoint
ment was unsolicited. I have endeay-
ored to perform my duty as a citizen
In the interest of the citizens of
East Orange. I am not In the habit
OF using profane language, but / zen.
orally stand my ground. Since the
mayor has seen ft to reappoint me 1
certainly wish to see, the council ratify
my appointment"
Well" said Mr.. Saxelby, IT think it
TO be purely a case of veracity."
+. NOT a Case OF verncity.
No. sir, 1t is not" interrupted Mr..
Schiller, "but 1t may, have been a re-
Iteration of the words Of q third party.
l have been for twenty years a citizen
OF East Orange, and I don't have to 20
before the public to prove my charac-
ter. At any rate the courts have de-
cided that damn lie not a profane
work"
"Tha is not the question at ISSUE
said Mr.. Saxelby, sharply.
Mr. Schiller said that he had nothing
further to ray and he was excused by
the committee. The committee would
give no decision In the matter. but viii
report their findings to the council at
its next meeting.