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Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17
CANDIDATE OF THE BOSS.

Democrats appear to be highly
pleased with the fact that they have
secured some good men to accept can
didacy on their City and Legislative
ticket.
Eet the Joy be unconRned
But that is no reason why the pub
lie should be misled into believing
that the success of the Democratic
ticket can be considered ms anything
but step toward oblivion tor the city
OF Honolulu and the Territory of Ha-
wall.
Evidently some Of the candidates
hope to make the public think that on
account of raising cloud in the form
OF County platform they have cut
themselves loose from the policy of
depression fathered by the Boss OF
the party and expressed in the party
platform.
But they can't fool the voters.
The very excellent gentlemen, and
| others, who have allowed their names
to go before the people as candidates
of the Democratic party are part and
parcel of the BOssed machine of the
Democratic organization, that is oper-
ating for the personal aggrandize-
ment of Boss McCandless. That's the
whole thing in nut she'll
In the contest that is soon to be in
full swing, the people will be infu-
enced by principle and the main pur-
poses that are behind the political or
CARNATIONS.
IN the Republican organization and
candidates the voters find sincere
and earnest band OF citizens working
with might and main to preserve the
prosperity of the islands and carry
the government and the enterprises OF
the people forward to the speedy full
fllment OF a progressive future.
In the Democratic party, they find
the whole situation dominated by the
personal ambitions and the personal
dictation Of a political boss. Every
thing must be secondary to the Boss
ship. The good men on the ticket are
taken along merely because they will,
In the estimation Of the Boss, aid the
Boss.
The Democratic candidates may re-
pudiats the Boss NJ they please, They
may shout In loud voice that the Boss
shall not command their actions
should they be 50 lucky as to get into
office
In 80 saying they are talking non
sense and they know a.
The Democratic noss dictated their
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

of their opinions sufficiently to
allow all progressive elements of all
districts to meet on common ground
They ought to get over the habit of
thinking that they must be beaten
every year, and begin to realize that
they have been defeating themselves
by lack of courageous and intelligent
cooperation.
Six weeks remains for the progress
sive citizens of Hawaii County to get
together and prepare to present a
united voting phalanx at the polls.
The prize to be won Is worth the un-
divided attention of every man in the
County who boasts Of an average
amount of public spirit.
It is not only necessary that the
crooks and the incompctents should
be shown up The able men and the
honorable must get out and work to
preserve the good name that has been
so long sOused.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17
METHODIST CHURCH.

The First Methodist Episcopal
Church, corner Beretania avenue and
Miller street, j. T. Jones. pastor.
Sunday School, 9:i5 IA. M; Il. II.
Trent, Superintendent.
Morning worship, 4 a, M; sermon
by the Rev. Frank b. Bachelor, Bap-
tist-minister Of Cold Water, Michigan:
subject, Christ the Source of Life.
Mr.. Bachelor Is on a tour OF tho world
and is making "A brief visit here. Spo-
cial music by the quartctte
Epworth League, Z o'clock; topic.
Two Ways of Reading the Bible, and
Their Rosultsi' EAR Tracey, leader.
Evening Worship, 7sf5 y, M; SER
mon by the pastor; subject, Gods
Precious Jewels"
Tourists, soldiers sailors, visitors
ana friends are most cordially invited
Ia attend the services Of this church
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Representative Alfonso ought to get
the vote of every honest man In IIa-
wait county for his plan to command
intelligent road construction by eX-
pert engineers
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Boss McCandlcss, scheme for im-
migration means setting back the
clock of Hawaii's prosperity, That's
not wanted by -the young men of the
islands who believe in Hawaii and
intend to do all thGy can to promote
It's progress .a
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Standpattcrs are Regulars only so
long as they are victors in the strug-
gle. The exhibition made by Stand
pattor Boutell running as an inde-
pendent candidate is sight o..
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

II would have been sad indeed for
the Father of Regatta Day to have
suffered defeat in his exhibition OF
how an oarsman OF former days can
"come back."
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Boss McCandless having completed
his slate in the local convention. will
now proceed on his mission of fool
ing the voters on the other islands.
This is not the year when the people
are easily quilted.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

So oft the doing of Gods will
Our foolish ways undoeth!
And YET what idle dream breaks i'll
Which morning light subduethl
And who would murmur and mis-,
doubt
When Gods great sunrise finds him
out.
e. B. Browning.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17
SEPTEMBER IL, 1910

Supporting the Republican ticket
by predicting the defeat Of indivi-
dual candidates is form of political
kniving rs detcstible as II is ancient
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Recall as II appears in the Demo
cratic platform means the rubber dol
lars Boss McCandless is throwing
against the wall in the hope that they
will come back to him in the form OF
yOtpg
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

OF course not all the orders Of the
Democrats convention we're deliy-
cred by the Iiig Boss direct There
always has 10 be- little h0ss or two.
Tor running errands
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

President Wilson will get lots of
material for new book, II nothing
better comes from his candidacy for
Governor of New Jersey.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Mr., Furtado of Hamakua knows Il
political boss when he sees one and
has left the Democratic party. SO
shall It be with all Independent cit
liens.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

building since 1880, Liverpool only
recently completed great water sun
ply scheme, Including the imp0undln4
nl a Welsh river nud the building uT
a seNenty-iiyo-milo nquoduct
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

Don't be boss ruled or boss fooled
That's the Democratic program.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17

-
!" 5Iq DELEGATE
Hop. J. K. kalanianaole.
IN -, SENATORS
e3Chas. Chillingworth,
g5,,Cecil Brown,
"A. F. Judd,
% 'rr A. S. kaleiopu.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTA-
TlVES
John X. Kamanoulu,
ETA. c. Long,
A. O. MarcaIlino,
Ed TowSe,
Norman Watkins,
William Williamson,
Frank K. Archer,
A. |. Castle,
S. P. Correa,
Edwin Fernandez,
ChaS. kanekoa,
S. K. Mahoe.
MAYOR
John C. Lane.
SHERIFF
Andrew Cox.
CITY ATTORNEY
John Cathcart.
TREASURER
Robert W. Single ..~"
AUDITOR '"".. '"'
James Bicknell
CITY CLERK
D. KaIauokaIani, Jr. "
SUPERVISORS
Chas. N. Arnold, ., ..
Makanoe c. Amana,
Samuel c. Dwight,
Frank Kruger, :
Eben P. Low,
Harry E. Murray,
James c. Quinn.
DEPUTY SHERlFFS
Honolulu-Wm. K. SimerSon.
WaiaIua-0sCar Cox,
koolaupoko-Frank Pahia.
Waianae-J. K. Klpau.
Ewa--john Fernandez.
Koolauloa-l. K. Naone.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-09-17
MANYACCIDENTS

The Interstate Com
merce Commission gives
the total number of
casualties TO passen.
gers on railways for
the year ending June
2 80, 1909, as follows:i
Killed, 1853; injured,
1881. During the pre-.
ceding year the record
was: Killed, 3S1; in
jured,, 1855.
Many thoughtful peo-
pie provide themselves
with accident insur.
ance policies before
starting on a trip TO
the mainland. The
Trent Trust Co., Ltd,
sells policies which
protect man and wife
as well as a single per.
son.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
BOYS HEAD CUT OFF
BY AUTOMOBILE
Terrible Accident Near Portsmouth, N.
H., Yesterday Afternoon-Richard
Burnham the Victim.

Portsmouth, n. IT,, Sept 81 Richard,
Ihe nine-year-old son Of Mr. and Mrs.
/. Edgar Burnham of Kittery, while
hding bicycle from his home to Kit
Iery point yesterday afternoon, was
struck BY an automobile at Locke's cove
ind instantly killed. The automobile is
Iwned and was driven by George n.
Hatchard Of Hull Mass, who, with his
wife, son, daughter and Miss Catherine
DDonnell, were returning from a trip
nto Maine.
The boy was on the wrong side OF the
load As he turned the curve at Loeke's
.oye. he ran directly into the auto.
Hatchard turned his machine to the lert
toward The electric car tracks Of the
Atlantic shore line to avoid striking the
boy. The boy turned at the same time
b the same direction, and the auto
truck him, killing him instantly
Hatchard was unable to stop the ma-
Iline. and, dragging the boys body, he
AN into heavy mail car of the electric
load, which happened to pass at the
lime. The boys head was taken off
In the collision with the mail car, Miss
pDonnell received an INJURY on the
hce from flying glass, and young Hatch
lrd received bad cut on the back Of
lis right hand The auto was badly
damaged, and the motorman Of the mail
nr. George Mitchell, narrowly escaped
erious injury.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
INrEREsTEp m ROOSEVELT
But Britishers Don't Know When To
Laugh and When to Think.

Burlington, Sept. 21.President Buck
ham OF the university of Vermont and
Mrs. Buekham returned yesterday after
noon from summers tour in England
and Scotland. Prof. and Mrs. Frederick
Tupper and Prof and Mrs. A. w. Slo-
cum returned yesterday after years
stay ii Europe Prof. Tupper being at
Oxford university moat of the time and
Prof. Socum at Cambridge university.
IN speaking Of the British view Of
Theodore Roosevelt, President Buekham
said the people are greatly interested
in Mr.. Roosevelt although they hardly
know whether to be amused Or impressed
BY him. They do not seem to feel any
bitterness over the now famous Guild
hall speech, because they are in the
habit Of expecting something outre from
the former president.
The English, generally, do not seem
to understand the political situation in
Ills country and, therefore, do not give
il proper Importance, but they take
great interest IN the outburst Of Roose-
yeltism. They think Mr.. Roosevelt a
power. without being a convincing pow
er. They think that he is verging in his
mind toward socialism, and for this rea-
son. the liberals syinpathize with him,
while the conservative element is afraid
ef him.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
Representative Tawney is
Licked by a Progressive"
BY AT LEAST 1000 VOTES
Man Who Has Represented First Mime
sofa District Since 1892 Lost in
Yesterdays Primaries to Sid
ney Anderson.


winona, Mimi, Sept 2l-Represen
tative James A. Tawney's campaign
managers this noon conceded the nom
ination Of Sidney Anderson in yester-
days primaries By 1000 to $500
Early returns indicated Tawuey's de-
feat and headquarters were closed But
III precints had been heard from ont
Of 27l, when his defeat was admitted,
most Of the defeated candidates strong
holds having been reported. Tawney has
represented the first Minnesota district
since 1892. Anderson. mis- opponent, is
3 progressive" Republican.
St. Paul, Mimi, Sept. 2l--Early re-
turns from the primary election held
yesterday, indicate that Representative
james A. Tawney, who has represented
the first Minnesota district since 1892,
has been defeated for the nomination by
Sidney Anderson, a progressive.
Congressman Frank NJ. Nye is rea-
sonably certain Of the. nomination in
The fifth district
In the fourth district Congressman
Stevens is having hard fight against
H. T. HaIbert.
Clarence B. Miller and Congressman
Linberg and Steenerson are nominated.
Congressman Davis and Olmstead have
no opposition.
Congressman Hammond Democrat, is
renominated in the second district.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21

Fred BOniviIIe Died at City Hospitaly
Early This Morning.

Fred Bonifille died az leo o'clock
this morning al the City hospital. Last
Thursday he was Operated aals fQr APP
tTsssEaal paresis developed and hnndi.-
operation haE to bc performed Monday
morning. from which he failed 10 nlly.
Ills mother Of Keesvllle. n y, two sis
ters and two brothers were at the bed
side when the end came this morn
ing
Mr. BoniYille was 4 well known end
popular young man in Barre, having
been employed as a plumber for the
last seven years. For the past few
years he had been employed by the
Phelps company and before that he bad
worked for Russell & Baird and for
+. A. Prindle. Tne body was taken
this morning to the home Of his sister,
Mrsr J. r. Truby, Of Pearl street, and
at 3su5 this afternoon. was taken 10
Keesvills. n. y. where the funeral serv.
ices will be held Saturday morning az
Q o'clock. The interment will be IN the
Catholic cemetery there.
Mr.. Boniville was born in keesville,
n. ", September s, 1856. He leaves
to mourn his loss his mother, five SIS
ters. Mrs. Peter Barber, Mrs. Felix Lat
tourelle and Miss Georgiana Bonivilie
of KeesviIle, Mrs. r. A. Mesie of Chi
cago, Mrs. ]. R. TRULY Of this city,
two brothers. Harry OF keesville and
Edward j., of Ausable Forks, N. y. He
was a member Of the 81. John the Bap-
tist society Of Keesville, which society
will have charge Of the funeral.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
JOHNSON PUT ON SPEED
And Left a Tail Of Disappointed Po-
licemen In New Hampshire.

hcemen IN new hampshire.
That Jack johnson speeded up his big
Thomas racer after leaving Barre yes
terday morning. is shown by the fol-.
lowing trail down through New Hamp.
shire
Manchester. \. H., Sept. 2l.-Jaek
johnson and his wife wife. Walter
Monahan. his sparring partner; Barney
furie, his trainer aud three other friends
gave the Manchester motor .cyele squad
the slip late yesterday afternoon after
the pugilist had been held I'D on 4
MAJ moving At Il 25mile cIipi u ls
the limit. Motorcycle officer BerRin,
who had previously sighted the party.
rode M alongside aud held them mp.
johnson asmounted and had some talk
with the officer. the latter ordering him
Ia turn about and accompany MIN To
police headquarters. This johnson fat
IL refused to do. and, jumping into his
machine, turned on the power and made
OF down the state highway at reckless
speed.
Nashua. \. IT., stpt. 2l.--Iate yes.
terday afternoon telephone message
from the Manchester police asked the
Nashua officers TO head of Jack John
son, who was headed toward Nashua,
for exceeding the speed limit In his au-
tomohile. The word that Johnson was
coming was noised about and large
crowds gathered on the streets. 1t IS
stated that some antomobilist went up
the road and informed Johnson, 50 he
took a side road and went through Hol-
lis and into Pepperell, Mass, and thus
out OF the state.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
THINKS HE HAS CLUE.
States Attorney Hunt Of Essex County
In Lnnenburg Case.

Lunenburg, Sept 2l.Mrs. j. Mar.
shall Dodge,s hearing on the murder Of
William Heath viii be heard Thursday.
States Attorney George i. Hunt is rcti-
cent as to the case, but believes that
he has a clue to motive, Attorneys
for neither side viii talk for publica-
ton.
Mrs. Dodge is said to be in state
of collapse because OF the closeness Of
the surveillance which is kept on her
She ii allowed to remain in her own
house, but is watched by two deputy
sheriffs.
One of her guards was Deputy Sher-
iff j. n. Dodge, der nephew, but he was
relieved yesterday to get g little rest
by Sheriff Richard Beatte. Another Of
fetal on watch is julius Bell, whose
wife is an adopted daughter Of the wom
ali under arrest
A further examination Of the room
where the shooting occurred, showed
that one of the bullets which struck the
floor evidently had been fired in the di-
reetion Of the safe, which stood on one
side Of tile room This led to the adj
vancement Of the theory BY some Of Mrs.
Dodee's neighbors, that Heath, while at
work near the safe, might have had the
appearance Of tampering with it.
tt has developed that the body Of
Heath was found some few feet from
tie pool Of blood in the bedroom. Ques-
toned about this, Mrs. Dodge said that
When she found Heath lying on the floor,
on his face, she turned him over, and,
securing bottle Of whiskey, gave him
portion of the liquor, in an attempt
to revive him IN turning him over,
Mrs Dodge said, the body rolled few
feet away from the spot Of blood on
the floor
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
FOUGHT TWO ROUNDS
ONLY WITH WORDS
Jack Johnson and Sam Langford Met In
Prize Ring at Boston Last Night
and Had An Interesting scs-
sion.

Boston, Sept. 2l.--Iack Johnson.
champion heavyweight puglist OF the
world, and Sam LanQford. colored. Of
Boston, who would wrest the champions
honors from him, met IN the ring at the
Armory Athletic association last nirat
for two rounds-one Of verbal reconcilia.
tion.
In the first round Langford accused
johnson Of being afraid TO meet him
when he had posted $4,000 forfeit
for a fight. and offered to meet the
champion nc any time. for any sum and
in any place eeven the CELLAR
johnson came hack with a denial that
Langford ned placed any forfeit mon.
ey, and. shaking a large roll Of bills,
Offered 60 bet s 600 70 $40 that no for.
felt 70 fight LanRford was ever placed.
he said he was willing 20 hght Lang.
ford and would meet him to-day in
local newspaper Office 20 arrange for
fight.
The second round was devoted to shak.
ing hands, the two colored fighters he.
ing urged 10 ~gct together with the
result that johnson offered his hand and
the Boston man gripped It.
Three star bouts were on the program
for the night Jimmy Walsh Of Boston.
had little difficulty in defeating Young
Britt Of Baltimore. in ten rounds Dave
Deshler Of Cambridge, and Willie Lucas
Of Philadelphia, went ten rounds to a
draw, while Jumbo Wells Of Australia. I
knocked out Billy Rolfe Of Cambridge. /
n the second round Of scheduled ten /
round bout.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
A WORLDS CHAMPION
Joan, the Queen Of -Year-olds, at
Columbus, Ohio.

Columbus, Ohio, Sept. 2l.--Joan, four
years old, owned BY David shaw 81
Cleveland and driven by NJ. MeDeavitt,
yesterday became the worlds champion
race trotter for fillies Of her age, when
she defeated Dude Arehdale in a Cruel
ling race for the Columbus
stakes, the last $4,000 prize that the
grand circuit has to offer this year,
Both heats were done in 2:06 IA. time
never before made by trotter Of Joan's
class. Dude Archdale won the last heat
in 2:06 l-2. The Geers mare was the
original favorite at 500 to $40.
Hailworthy's breaks in the first two
heats Of the Columbus stake, worth 49,,
900, ruined bis chances Of becoming q
winning favorite The race went to
Startle. a Toledo horse. which Hail
worthy beat in the final mile by steady
trotting.
Independence Boy, winner Of the 2:ll
pace Monday entered the 2:09 pace
yesterday as strong favorite and the
result was never in doubt, as he did
2:06 Ia three times with apparent ease.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
She Was Struck and Sustained
a Broken Leg
AN ACCIDENT ON MAIN ST.
Witnesses Say That the Machine, Driven
BY Harry F. Whitney Of Williams
town, Was Going at a Slow
Rate at Time.

laura Velo, The seven-years-old daugh-
ter OF Mr. and Mrs A. yelo OF 27ik
Granite street, was run over by an auto
mobile on North Main street opposite
West street at $3.50 o'clock yesterday
afternoon, and her right leg was broken
near the knee joint. The automobile
was being driven by Harry f. Whitney
Of Williamstown. and witnesses OF the
whole accident lay no blame on Mr..
Whitney Il is said that the little girl
was standing on the sidewalk with sew
eral other girls and started TO run across
the street from West street and ran Y.
rectly in front Of the automobile. Those
who saw the accident say that the ma
chine was not going over eight miles an
hour, but that il was impossible for the
driver to stop without hitting the child.
The driver set the brakes and the
wheels slid far enough 50 that the rear
wheel just passed over her Lex before
II stopped The guard over the front
wheel struck the girl first and threw
her 10 the ground, and she escaped the
front wheel, but the rear wheel passed
over her leg just below the knee. Charles
II. Wilkie, who is employed IN A. w
Badger q companys store, was one OF
The first TO reach the girl, and as Ne
know her be picked her up 10 his arms
and carried her TO her home. Dr.. +. J. /
was called and found that out
side Of the fracture OF the leg the girl
was not hurt and will speedily recover. 1
The little girl had started IN going 70
school this term for the first time.
The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1910-09-21
HORSE STALLS BURN,
HOUSE THREATENED
But Bare Firemen Saved v. f. Ayers
House On Ayers Street After a
Hard Fight Yesterday After
uoon

Two boys smoking cigarettes IN one ol
the horse stalls at the Granite City
Irotting park, shortly before o'clock
yesterday afternoon, set fire to the stall
and before the flames were under con.
troll, two thirds Of the long row OF
stalls back Of Ayers street, were burned
70 the ground and the residence Of v. Il.
Ayers was slightly damaged. At $3.50
some boys ran into Harry McNeil's
blacksmith shop beside the covered
bridge and told Mr. Mcneil that the
horse sheds were on fire. Mr. Mcneil
az once tclephoned to the fire station
and the tiremen were just making the
hitch TO the chemical wagon when a
general alarm was rung II from box
Al, at the corner Of South Main and
Ayers streets BY James Tucker, propri-
etor Of the barber shop opposite Ayers
street.
When Chief Gladding and the chem.
ica' wagon arrived at the hydrant on
Ayers street, the flames were burst
ing out OF the two stalls in the rear
Of the t1ree-tencment house next to
the Ayers residence. The fire spread
through the stalls with lightning like
rapidity and was soon blazing fercely
back Of the Ayers house. This house
and the barn are situated very close
20 the stalls. Here the fremon had
to make the only real fight. The roof
OF the barn and the ell were soon blaz-
ing and the fire was so hot that water
had 70 be played on the buildings con
tinnally To keep the fire down.
The chemical was the first to arrive
and the firemen hitched two lines Of
hose to this hydrant One Of these
streams was played onto the stalls from
the Ayers street side and the other was
run around inside the park grounds and
played onto the front These two
streams very quickly checked the flames
from burning any farther towards that 4
end Of the stalls. Another was hitched /
to the hydrant on South Main street I
and this stream was played onto the 1
Ayers residence and that end OF the
stalls. In fifteen minutes after the wa
ter was turned on, the fire was under
control and &C 4:25, the "aII OUT sig
pal was pulled in.
The heat broke several windows in
he reay Of the Ayers house and the
'oofs 1f the Ell and the barn were dam
lged 70 tine extent OF about $50. The
lCrse stalls were owned by the Bolster
state and the loss Is probably about
300 When the alarm was rung in.
he fire horses which draw the hook and
adder trucks were being used on the
treet sprinkling cart and were at the
ountain at the city square. They were ,
riven to the station ard hitched to the
fagon as quickly as possible The horse
Thieh is kept at the North Barre sta
ion 70 pull that nose cart, was out 50 Z
hat cart was not started for the fire 4
he tive ouys said 70 nAtF ntcn liit
ause u the fire IN the stalls and to-
ay had talk with them and their 4
arents.