The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1910-02-04
eousness.' Did you intcnd to charge
him with being a corrupt political

him with being a corrupt political
boss?"
mo. But the article speaks for IT.
self. l reiterate every word OF it,
The witness again and again evaded
Il direct answer to the question as to
whether 1t had been intended to charge
that Saunders was a corrupt politi-
cal boss. Iinally he said: Il mean
TO say that 1 think him corrupt po-
litical boss. But when you ask me
what the language of the article
means, it must speak for itself" which
was followed by Il long controversy
over the meaning and intent of the
article. Nh. Scott wanted to know
|whtther there was reference to Mr..
Saunders when the editor spoke of "all
the powers of darkness and the wit
ness admitted that he had had Saun-
dcrs in mind together With others.
Tho article on Griffith as Policy
King" which charges Saunders with
having protected Griffith, and men
! lions Griffith Leanan. saunders and
Ferrandini as bar keepers, ex-bar
| keepers or partners OF bar Keepers"
| concluded: DO YOU see any graft
| there"
What Is Graft:
| Mr.. Scott went on to read tile eiec-
| ton day article, in which Saunders
| was charged with being a political
lobbyist and CRATER"
Don't you know that the common
acceptance of tho term 'gratter' Is a
corrupt and dishonest MANI"
"So,ne don't seem to think it dis
! honest" answered Hod.r II think II
both corrupt and dishonest. But when
J used the term 'g:cfter.' you must re.
member that it means one thing to one
'nan and alother to others, ! didn't
charge him with being dishonest and
corrupt. L merely charged what is
said in the article--tllat he was d
| CRATER
!. You used the word which you
thought means that no was dishonest
and corrupt, and would be- so under
stood by your readers?"
g! aid not mean to charge him with
being dishonest or corrupt. To my
mind, u CRATER must necessarily bt
dishonest and corrupt, but Mr.. Saun
ders may not have SO regarded it."
Then the man you call a CRATER Is
In your estimation, necessarily dis
honest and corrupt?"
Yes"
Fought Harder After Suit.
The witness admitted that after th'
institution of the suit by Saunders. ht
had become more vigorous and point
ed in his denunciation; that he wished
to show that he had cause for wha
he had said, and to put the facts be
fore the people.
You intended 10 expose him to thu
full limit with the object of helpin.
you in your suit?''
YES. The special object of tina
article was to beat him In the cleo
ton. but the occasion of the suit mad
me look after him especially"
Then after his defeat at the I1as
election, and when he was no lonse
a candidate before the people. you
publication was directed to preparing
the public mind for your side Of you
, law SUITE"
ITO some extent. yes"
"Thcn you were trying to prejudice
the public mind against Mr.. Saunder
by way OF preparing your defense?"
No"
About Fixing the Jury.
What about the article discussin'
tho suit, in which YOU say: lie nee
not count on friends on the jury. W
will see to that? What have you don
about seeing to the iury?"
ut wasn't necessary | don't thln
> 1t damaged Mr.. Saunders any don
, know enough about Clay Ward poli
), tics TO say whether it was what W
g printed that beat nm or not.
tried to-.
Another article WAS quoted as I
y delay in the trial of the suit.
You didn't trouble yourself to in
/. quire and ascertain that your ow