The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1910-04-10


you VIII permit me. for just moment
II / aaVe gas a atmospheric pressure.
and 1 put on, say, ~ pounds more
pFessure-ln- other words. II ] double
the preSsUTe-then have put just twice
as much gas in the same volume. Now,
what happens You get a larger amount
OF gas IN the meter for every additional
fraction that you put on the pressure
more Tran is required: you are InCreas-
ing me amount Of gas compressed into
meter and YOU are delivering the con-
sumner that much more gas than he Is
paying fOr at afmOSpheric pTeSSure.
Now. do not misunderstood me. I do
not say thst that amounts 20 very
much and so much as there is OF diff
ference due 10 increased pressure IS 10
the advantage OF the consumer, AND
see present one member OF the commit
tee who IL an engineer and who VIII
confirm my statement
Mr. Csry-How much of that gas is
coal Eas2
Mr.. Humphreys-He
Mr. Cary-Yes
Mr. Humphreys had intended 10
figure II out. but ] have not done so
My recollection is that there is about
- per cent water gas and So per cent
coal gas, but I would not like to say
company can give you that informa-
ION But have not looked It up since
NJ. Cary-Nov. Mr.. Humphreys. YOU
spoke about Mr. Brides bin or S37-
sun. that bin ran FOR about a year.
believe did II NOS, Mr.. Bride2
Mr. Brioe-Ir ran for q month and
zen days The gas was consumed in
Mr. Carl thought perhaps II was
q year bili- ! did not fully understand
Touched Upon Milwaukee.
Now Mr- HUmphrey s. you touched
upon Milwaukee in regard 20 the pipe
to the meters When they put their
pipe into my '-oise there. they not
alone brought IL from the curb 10 the
meter, but they piDed the whole house.
and they charged me so for the piping
but diverted f. back into gas. and it did
Tot cost me anything. And I want 10
say that that has occurred quite often
Nj Hump -Cys-I suppose that II
was because 81 vas Mr. cary
MI Csry-No. IT was common Al the
time
Mr. Humphreys have investigated
this report, and I have had Mr. Glass
tell me positively just what the rule IS
there To bring the information up TO
date Te teleErsphed 10 him the other
day. and I have read the telegram that
We received from him.
Mr. Cary-Wel. that was a bout fifteen
years ago when ] had that done, and
before 1 was in politics OF course, they
may have changed their rules in fifteen
years
Now. as TO the by-products OF this
Mr.. Humphreys-WiI YOU excuse me
for just q moment They charged =
much higher price then, and SO, perhaps,
they. could better AFFORD 10 give away
services
MI Cary-WeII. it vas s.; that IS 8. %.
vita > per cent OF
Mr. HUmphTeys-AU right.
Mr. Cary-One dollar net Now, I was
going 10 ask you another question about
the by-prOducts Of the compauy-tar.
ammonia and coke. Are the receipts
for that figured in with the returns, to-
CeTheT with the gas receipts and re-
turns. OF are they kept separator
Mr. Humphreys are kept Sep
arate in the accounts. necessarily 80
as 20 follow II through and know what
they are doing
Mr. csry-ARd they are included in
their reports2
Mr- Humphreys-Certainly. It IS all
here
Mr.. GARLAND all added together IS
assets and profit a. the end OF the
YEAR,
Mr. Humphreye-Not as assets and
profit
Mr. Ca-y-I -sss7 profit
Asking for Returns
MI H,IU-ohregs--rhe way II is put
IN is this ! TIesn that YOU are asking
for the returns upon residUaIs- In the
printed report they put IL in as part OF
the receipts, and when We come TO fig
ure the cost or gas We regard this as
a gss-makirE business, and not as =
rssidUal-n6k king business But IL is the
universal practice 20 deduct the cost Of
the gas from the amount received from
the residUsls II arriving al the cost per
thousand That IS the way L have tiS-
ured Il
MT. Csry-Df course the by-product =
really what YOU might call velvet
M HUTpnTeys-In sense II Won
didn't have the bv-pToducts the cor
sumer would have TO pay that much .
more. because 81 r. given 10 the con- +
sumner IN the sense that il helps the
company 20 reduce the cost Of gas
M Csrv-But 90 YOU figure IL in the
price OF gas 10 the consumer
Mr.. HEmphreys-C we allow
for 70 as a credit. exactly what Ne do
is what I nave said here-heTe Is the
STA reneut Why would Il not DO well. F
Nh Chairman, 10 read that right IN
here. as II would answer Nh Cary's I
question:
me Chairman have 20 objection. /
OF course
Nj HUmp6reys--it viii not take but
q moment The items of expense are
as follows OIL. 1ime-yOU gentlemen can (
follow me and see how I get il by the +
lime, wages, salaries. and I
so forth. SSS4.15S-13- Taxes, water rent, E
and 50 forth. SISS. 2sS- Is Distribution &
department ana orders Office, SS5,S1S J. 4
Station eXpenses-that Is the two /
ma INTACT r5rInZ stationS-sI15.E sl2 -. Re d
TO the repairs just stated. all 4
included N the charge of { cents a 4
thousand. S73.11AS5 Street lamps, 30
9043S Use Of services, SIS, ST. g
The unfsceIIa neOus items YOU Will End 4
on page 8, and which they have made 2 4
direct charge 10 profit and loss, but I /
included il in my expense. S25.0f3. s.. q
from which 7 deduct loss premium on 4
United States bonds S1As2S- leaving q 4
net Of s.. zlE57 for this item, q total o. i
81 as as Il Now comes your point, M !
~ary Deduct residual receipts, which 8
7DDesr on paze Of the report, S1-560-OS, .
'esy-iu- as the net cost OF operating
= SCI IS. s. which. divided by ths I
amount OF gas sold namely 2,054- 725 4
thousands. makes the cost per thousand I
g IS cents There Is how I calculate, So 4
that II I am wrong you will have eX-
,ellent opportunity 10 demonstrate the 4
fact
Gives the Assets.
Mr.. Cary-YOU' also made statement
hat the assets we're S. 300, 600.
Mr. HumphTeys-Yes, sir
Mr. Cary-I suppose the water IL fig
ired IL this. too
Mr.. Humphrey s-There is not any
Eater figured in it.
Mr.. Cary-NOne at alI2
Mr. HUmphreys-N0. sir: not a dollar.
By actual appraisal by my firm, made