Los Angeles herald., 1910-08-31
SOUTHLAND GAINS
IN RATE HEARING
State Commissioners Admit Evil
denCe Showing Differences
in Railway Schedules

Los Angeles scored a lead over San
Francisco in the rate hearing before the
state railroad commission yesterday,
when the commissioners admitted into
the records a deposition from e. w.
Camp, attorney for the Santa Fe, who
was not in court.
San Francisco has been contending
that rates from Los Angeles to the
San Joaquin valley should be higher
than from San Francisco to the valley,
giving as a reason for this the cost of
the haul over the Tehachapi. Mr..
Camps deposition stated that it costs
1923 times as much to operate the valley
division of the Santa Fe from San
Francisco to Bakersfield as it does the
Arizona division, which includes the
Tehachapi mountains.
Seth Mann, representing San Fran
cisco. vigorously protested against the
introduction of the deposition, claiming
1T should not be introduced unless Off
cials of the Santa Fe company were
called to the stand and oss-examined
on the figures. Commissioner Summer
land stated that he was willing to ad-
NIT the letter while Commissioners r.
win and Loveland said it could not be
admitted unless opportunity were given
for cross examination.
MANAGER ERICSSON TEsTIFIEs
Attorney Kuster, representing Los
Angeles, informed the commission that
f. p. Gregson, traffic manager for the
Associated Jobbers of Los Angeles,
could explain the letter
Before allowing Gregson to take the
stand, Commissioners Irwin and Love-
land told him to leave out all reference
to the letter in his testimony. Greg
son then pointed out errors in some of
the exhibits introduced by the Southern
Pacific company. One of these errors
he attributed to a clerical mistake,
while the others, he claimed, were mis-
leading. Some of these so-called errors
had to do with rates from middle west
ern cities. For instance, rates were
given from Pueblo to interior Colorado
points, and compared with similar dis
tances out of Los Angeles, but Mr..
Gregson testified that the Pueblo rates
are the same as those from Denver, 11S
miles farther north, so that when the
Southern Pacific table compared the
distance from Pueblo to Glenwood
Springs, 241 miles. with similar dis
tances out of Los Angeles, the compar-
ison, he said. should have been from
Denver, distance of 1853 miles.
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY RATES
Stockton has a differential of only
cents first class under San Francisco
shipments, this being the class in which
Stockton Is mostly interested. San
Francisco has to pay only cents a
hundred pounds on first class ship
ments to points in the san Joaquin
valley more than Stockton, though the
latter city is located in the valley.
stockton contends that this difference
should be greater and it's representa-
tives ask that its rates be reduced
while the rates of San Francisco be left
at the present schedule.
The hearing will be resumed this
morning. and 1t is believed that it will
be finished tomorrow evening.
Among those attending the hearing
are: A. e. Mustro, president of the
Stockton Jobbers and Manufacturers
association, and c.. l.. Neumiller its
attorney; G. r. Bradley, representing
Sacramento; Edward Kuster and Jo-
seph Lowb, attorneys, and f. p. Greg
son, traffic manager for the Associated
Jobbers of Los Angeles; f. M. Hill of
San Bernardino; T. M. Graham and G.
w. Luce, for the Southern Pacific and
w. G.. Barnwell and U. 7. Clotfelter for
the Santa Fe.