The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1910-05-17
KERRY ON WITNESS STAND. SAYS
BALLINGER SWORE FALSEI, Y
Clerk Calmly Gives Sensational Testimony Investigating
Government Secretary

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the city preparing to testify before the
committee
before the committee if il were neces-
sary.
I knew / might be called" he said.
but diss='s want 70 appear unless
necessary. because 1 knew that would
mean I would lose ms job
'-Why2" asked DENLY.
Well said &erby. Il knew what had
happened to Claws
Too Many Sacrifices.
Continuing ne stated that the fact
Of his knowledge Of the preparation of
the LAWYER draft had already been given
To Garfield through another source.
Al his conference with Garfield. which
was held at PinChOtS house, keTby 81 ID
Garfield told him that 90 many had
already been sacrificed, and that re
appreciated Kerby's delicate position
At this point Representative DENLY,
raising his hand IN a rather discourag-
ing manner, said
But why did you ,hink your story
would prove 50 damaging as to cause
your dIsmissaIZ''
Proved His Case.
II knew what had happened 10 Mr.
Claws retorted KERRY Il believed
that my story would arouse Secretary
Baliinger, and as 70 my story, 1 believe
il has proved its case
Ksrby said that the first mention he
had made Of the LAWYER memorandum
was 70 Hugh A Brown formerly priv
ate secretary 20 Secretary Garfield.
Brown had later told Kerby that Mr.
Garfield attorney had requested him
20 testify about his conversation with
KERRY
Wishing TO tell his own story. Kerby
had asked Brown to arrange a meeting
% n he
meeting at Mr.. PinchOt's house.
Kerby interrupted.
The testimony Of Kerby was frequent
y interrupted BY Chairman Nelson IN
I'll Representative Graham asked him
to let the witness proceed with some
chance TO tell his own story After this
senator Nelson was not heard from
for some time
Where YOU told by them asked Yer
trees referring 10 Garfield and PinChOD.
TO ma out everything about the Sec
retary-s Officer
NO, sir. absolutely no. answered
kerry emphaTically- Mr. Garfield was
particular TO say that ne did not want
me 70 act as spy
Met At Pinchot Home.
Kerby said that this conference be
tween Garfield and himself took place
in Pinchot's house about 1879. He said
he later conferred with Brandeis that
night. Among the things he said he
told the attorney Sas the fact that he
knew that BaIlinEer had determined
20 dichsrSe r H Newell, dire or of the
Reclamation Service, and bad written
70 R H Thomson, city engineer Of
Seattle, Offering him the place.
Representative DENLY asked kerby
whether he EneW anything else in re-
gard 10 the S-cretary's Office
~ hlln HHHH aE-ar.H
connected with the department. he
said. and II you know any II ivg else I
think you should state It"
Is that the sense Of the committee q"
Representative Graham said that it
was
Morgan-Guggenheim Creeos In.
Kerby then referred 20 the Thomson
correspondence as the only other mat
ter Of which he knew, although he also
referred 10 certain correspondence OF
the Morgan-Guggenheim syndicate.
He wanted TO know first whether al
OF Brandeis calls for documents had
oeen answered and asked permission
TO examine the papers sent Up These
had not been received, he has Informed.
Finally, again questioned about his
conference with Garfield. Kerby declar-
ed he went voluntarily
Begins His Story.
Neruees insistently urged Kerby to
admit that he had a selfish motive in
giving out his statement This Kerby
denied, and upon the emphatic protest
Of Democratic members, kerby was al
lowed 70 tell his story in his own way
He said he first met q Mr.. Wilson. q
newspaper man. en- Sunday, May S, and
that night he talked II over with Mrs.
Kerby. He said they decided that as
long as there Tas a chance OF his zp-
pearlnE on the witness stand. & would
not be right TO give the matter TO the
press. He said that on TIE following
Tuesday. H y Hickey and ". 3 Col
yer, newspaper men Of Cleveland, with
whom Wilson Is associated. talked to
him and Mrs Kerby and that they
agreed with them in their decision.
They told me-. said heTby, that
they considered the matter all over, in
view Of our stand that we needn't
worry about anything being made
public, and said they would AXE care