The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1910-03-31

c"mpei the furnishing Of proper accom-
modations to those people on that isl
and? Would not that be justo
Mr. Yates, | have this information
on that subject, that while a fine may
be very often levied against passengers
or companies, and so forth-a two hun
bred dollar fine-verv frequently that
fine is RENTED.
Mr.. Mcclellan. More frequently it is
not.
Mr.. Yates. It has been remitted, and
| believe myself it viii be RENTED in
any case where a person can show that
he had a bona fide, legitimate reason
for haste
Mr.. FouIkrod. Then it is not a very
good law, if it is put upon some and
not upon others, and a man who has
influence can have it taken off and the
man who has none must pay it,
Mr.. Mcklnlay. | can give YOU a lit
/ tie information on that. ! happened to
have talk with the assistant secretary
of commerce and labor the other dav
! IN regard TO this very point, and he
SAID 1t was the practice to remit the
fine II there was any case of urgency
taat required the travel by the Ha-
WalIan resident to San Francisco on a
/ foreign boat, and it seemed to be the
practice of the department to remit
the fine. They have been doing it for
! two or three years.
Mr.. Alexander. In case Of sickness
or death
Mr.. MckinIay, Yes, and in case Of
business urgency. They have been very
liberal on that line.
Mr.. Foulkrod. Is that part of the
law?
Mr.. Mckinlay. The secretary of com
meree and labor under the law has dis
cretiOnary power in regard to that.
Mr.. Yates. Renting those fines.
Mr.. Foulkrod 1t appears to me if
they pay a fine of 5000. as Mr.. Hardy
said, if they leave the Islands on for
eign ship. then there ought to be some
law to compel the furnishing Of proper
accommodations for the people on
American ships.
Mr.. Mckinlay. It does seem harsh
law, and the officer is given discretion
| AIRY power to mitigate it, and it has
been done for two or three years.
! Mr.. Mcclellan. | want to say, with
| all Difference to the gentleman from
| California, as | stated in my remarks,
while the department has RENTED that
| III certain eases. in more eases it has
| not.
| Mr.. Mckinlay. | did not say in all
, cases; | said in eases Of emergency.
Mr.. Mcclellan. The department has
! taken the position that business urgency
! is not a valid reason. and in not all
| cases where sickness has been urged
! has the fine been RENTED.
Mr.. McKinIay But they have remit
| ted it in cases of business urgency.
| Mr.. Foukrod. Have YOU any figures
! as to how much has been RENTED
Mr.. Mcclellan. Probably 10 per cent
! RENTED and 90 per cent not.
4 Mr.. Mckinlay. Mr. Chairman, might
| ask a question of Mr., Mcclellan that
is not, perhaps. pertinento
The Chairman. Certainly.
Mr.. McKinIay. What is there in thi-
statement that it has. been the habit
of the people in Honolulu to engage
bcrths on three or four different ships
and then perhaps not give notice unit
the last minute that they would not
occupy the cabins: that it has been ii,
habit down there to require 10 deposit
! from the passengers travelling. and il
SUM eases thtN " bNiti take perm u
1 three different vessels. and at the las
moment give up two Of them, and Ieavf
berths that might have been filed.
Mr.. Foulkrod. You would not sup
i pose any business company would allow
;, that.
! Mr.. McKinlay. 1t has been don,
down there.
Mr., Humphrey. 1t must be the faul
of the company.
I Mr.. GouIden, De they not require ;
deposit now?
Mr., McKinIay They do not.
Mr.. GouIden. They ought 10; the,
are pretty poor business people
Mr.. Mcclellan. The Pacific Mai
company refuses to accept deposits. be
cause they can not guarantee passage
Therefore the bookings are left opel
and any one can book who desires. ant
nobody is refused booking. Everyon,
who wants to 90 books The question
as to whether they can 90 depends OF
t he amount of space, and the fact thai
many who booked do not want to =,
does not prevent any one from securing
passage if there Is really any space OF
he ship.
Mr. FoulkrOd. Do YOU want to say
that a man can book and then the com
pany have the option Of refusing him
MIR Mcclellan. The company refuses
him because they have not the space
and the reason people book on two o.
three steamers is because the company
does not assure them Of passage.
Nh Humphrey. It is not really a
booking, They just simply file theil