The Birmingham age-herald., 1910-02-01

tributors to the campaingn fund in the past were holding off because their claims had not been patented"
 Was any one else present at this conversational ?''
 No, sir It was in the lobby of the Portland hotel at Portland, Ore. We had been talking there for an hour or more.'
 When did you first call in the forestry serviceT' Senator Fletcher next inquired.
 T sent telegram to Law Officer A C. Shaw of the forestry service July It, 19o9."
 Superiors Not Consulted.
 Didn't you think fl incumbent upon you to consult your superiors before taking that action?"
 No. sir, not under an agreement that had been reached between Secretary Gar field and Secretary Wilson" Why did you telegraph such.' Because I wanted the hearings in the Cunningham cases postponed ITO what extent afterwards did the forestry enter into the matter?''
 Shaw telegraphed me he could not
 come to Seattle. but sent the law off,
 fcer at Portland to see me. He went
 over the papers with me and agreed that final examination was necessary. What was the name of that law of fcerY' demanded Senator Nelson. His name was Pierce" "Do you know Donald R, or Donald A. McKenzie?' asked Senator Fletcher.
 "Yes. sir. I think it Is Donald A What relation did he bear to Commis- sioner Dennet and Secretary Ballinger?" He was very friendly with both." Feeling Against Garfield. The witness then told of conversa- tion he had with a Judge Mckenzie. in
 which the latter said the reason why James R. Garfield was not in President Taft's cabinet was because of his antag
 onism to the coal claimants in Alaska.
 Did he tell any other reasons why MT Garfield was not in the cabinet?" asked . Representative Olmsted amid laughter
 No sir Senator Root here entered vigorously into the examination. Whom did Mckenzie make this state-
 ment to?" he asked.
 ITO Special Agent Jones and myself. We made an affidavit to that effect
 Why did you make an affidavit?'
 T thought 1t would be worth remember cases if we had to call Mckenzie as a witness'' When did you make that affidavit?' Tn September, 1909.' After you had seen President Taft?" Yes sir.' Have you copy of it?' "No. There may be a copy in the for estry service. I left one also in the off, flee at Seattle" "Did you send any papers to the for estry?" asked Senator Nelson. Yes sir. I sent them copies of papers and affidavits." Don't you know those papers are con- fidential?' T sent them for the official use of the forestry service in their investigation
 But you took them as an official of the land service?'
 Yes sir"
 Furnished Copies of Papers. Glavis added that 1t had always been his practice to furnish copies of papers to the forestry in all cases where that de- partment was cooperating. Now, again, why was it you made that affidavit?' inquired Senator Root.
 'T thought 1t might be of interest to President Taft if had another opportun- ity to sec him" Did you intend to send it to President Tafty' "I had that in mind" Did you send it?" wv Siico6h' Wouiu SuOW IL 10 n1m when he came to Seattle" And you did send it where?" ITO the forestry service.'' | Glavis added that he thought the af- fdavit would also be of interest to Mir Garfield. You did not do 1t with the idea of att tacking President Taft?' asked Senator Root. No" You swear you did not?' ''I swear" Did you think it would aid the Presi- dent7'' "I didn't know; didn't think it would fn1ure him."
 "Who is this man McKenzie?" asked Representative Madison. Known as a Lobbyist. "IIe is interested in the Dalton group Of claims in Alaska and is known among the agents as lobbyist in Washington 7 Where does he live?'s ~In the summer he lives In Alaska, where he has q townsite at Nelson This answer brought out laugh at the expense of Chairman Nelson. Who are the principal owners of Nell son?' was asked. .MnKsnzie and ex-Governor McGraw' 7 Glavis was questioned closely as to why