The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1910-03-01

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Theodore Roosevelt must have
thought himself-;he lord
Washington, March when the
Plnchot BalllDger committee OF In
qulry met today in the senate Office
building there was pending the ques-
tIon as to whether or not Clifford Pin
chot, the witness on the stand. should
be allowed to give his version of con-
versation had with President Taft.
Counsel for Mr. Pinchot finally said
he wonld not press for a ruling, and
the matter was. dropped
Mr. Vertrees, counsel for Mr. Bal
linger, suggested that ruling should
be had as TO whether or not Mr.. Pin
chot. aud probably other witnesses.
should be allowed 10 repeat ccnversa-
tlons with the President. Mr.. Vertrees
said there was no objection TO tho
INTRODUCTION in evidence of letters
written to or by the President. but
he contended that II the committee
permitted witnesses to give their YER
sion OF conversations at the White
House 1. would out the President In
the embarrassing attitude Of either
remaining silent or appearing before
the committee as witness. The lat
ter he deemed TO b" undesirable.
There was no indication this morn
Ing az to how much longer 5lr. Pin
chot would remain on the stand. He
will oe succeeded BY witnesses called
by him To substantiate the specific
charges he has made against the sec
re,ary of the interior Among these.
4; was announced. would be officers
in tnc government reclamation 5erv-
Ice.
When the public hearing opened
Attorney Pepper began to question
Mr.. PInchot as to the sequence OF
events following July ]. 1909. when
the former forester said he first heard
Of the Cunningham claims through
forest officials in the West. and when
re heard what his Subordinates had
done n. CLAWS request. looking TO
postpunemcnt of the hearings OF the
cunningham claims. he approved thor"
oughly,
Asked II there was anything unu'
sual in The interference of the forest
service. Mr.. Pinchot reed letter
signed by President Roosevelt, May
II. 1905. directing the secretary OF
the interior TO cooperate with the Tor
estry service as > lands In forest re-
! serves. and TO adopt the services fad
inss as lar as possible.
The witness told OF his interview
with CLAWS at Spokane on Aug 3,
1909 The meeting was not by APP
poIntment. and Mr.. PInchot said he
nossin'y had met CLAWS once before,
no was not sure CLAWS laid all his
evidence before him. Mr Plnchot said,
and spoke of publishing the whole
! story.
"I was deeply impressed by what
CLAWS said. and urged him 10 go TO
the President cid this because |
thought a scandal would arise, as IL
sInce has arisen. and ] thought the
, President ought TO have an opportu'
nity % protect himself and his ad
ministrstiOn.'
Mr. Pinchot read in evidence the
letter OF introduction he gave CLAWS
to the President In this letter hc
said ne had known CLAWS for several
! years.
The witness explained again that he
Thought he had mot CLAWS once be-
fore: AT any rate, he said. he had
known oil him for several years.
AS to shaw going to Chicago 70
assist CLAWS in the preparation Of
his statement TO the President. MIR,
Pinchot said the impression had gone
forth that Shaw had assisted CLAWS
IN preparing an article published In
weekly paper This was not true.
the witness declared. for such an ar
t,ele could not have been in coutesa-