Los Angeles herald., 1910-06-11
.5QUABBLE OVER
i WEIGHT QUESTION
.AtteII and Moran Discuss Condi-
tions of Their Match
Without Result
'BRlTlSHER ACTS STUBBoRNLY
Rejects Two Reasonable PROPOSE
tionS Made by Feather
weight Champion
.BRITISHER ACTS sTOBBoRNLY
BY JAY DAVIDSON


Abe Attell came to town yesterday
morning and met Manager McCarey
and Charlie Harvey, manager for owen
4 Moran in a conference to discuss con-
ditions and weight for the proposed
ten-round scrap between himself and
Moran that McCarey wants to stage
the night of June "a. After an eX-
tended discussion they adjourned with
out coming to any agreement, but 1t is
regarded as probable that they will
come to terms this morning, when they
will have another conference.
Attell said afterward that he had
asked MORAN 10 make the same
weight for him that he made for
Frankie Conley, 124 pounds at o'clock,
but when Harvey refused to do this
Abe proposed 1876 pounds at 6 O'Clock.
harvey would not agree to this, either.
Abe refused to consider any other
propositions and they separated for the
night. Ke said that he felt that
Moran should make one of these
weights, as he is heavier than Abe
and is going into the legitimate light
weigh division. whereas Abe intends
to re, main in his own division. He
said that if he was going out of his
class to fight lightweights, he wanted
them to make a weight that would be
as nearly equal as possible and which
would make the match look like good
one at the box Office
Moran is acting too stubbornly In
this matter, just as he always does
He wanted to fight Conley at prac-
teal catchweights, knowing that he
would have from ten to fifteen pounds
the better of the bantam champ. Al
though he is willing to make l22
pounds ringside for Attell in cham
pionship fight, according to his man.
ager, he haggles over ia POUNDS al
8 and 126 pounds at o'clock. 1t is
not showing exactly the right spirit,
because 1t is difficult to figure where
he possibly couldSbe even as light as
Attell at either weight, as Abe would
he two ts four pounds lighter than
Moran at any other than the feather
weight ringside scale. In trying. TO
force all his opponents to give him
an advantage of several pounds IN
weight. Moran is not impressins the
fans with his spirit OF fairness.
Moran would be at better advantage
at either weight proposed by Attell
than when he fought Abe to two draws
at the teatherweight limit and II ne
could draw with the champion then he
shop,S be able to make better show
ing with the increased weight and the
difference in his favor that would OBJ
tain at either weight suggested by
Abe. This is a good card and would
draw better here than any otner
match that Moran could make else
where &C this time. The rams nope
that he and Attell will be able to
agree today and that the match VIII
be closed and signed up without iur-
+her DELAY, Chickering's or this nature
do not add to the drawing Quaii@ioa
of any scrap.
Attell is the same old happy Hebrew
of yore, although he seems to be q
trif1e feshy and out of condition Just
now. He says that he Is delighted To
be back In his favorite haunts once
more and declares that 1t is like a
home coming for him after a long ap-
sence. Since he fought Freddie Welsh
here he has been doing a champion
ship short tour business, fighting all
over the country, but he says that ne
has done better down east than any
where else, as he got good" money 1oI
his scraps down there. Leave that 70
Abe. He has moved out TO Arcaolsi,
where he probably will train If he and
Moran come to terms today.
Ad Wolgast showed the stuff that
his heart is made Of when he fougnt
three of ten rounds last night with
only one hand and yet won the fight:
The little champion Is to be censureo
a bit for taking on the match with
Redmond, even in a no-decision town,
in preference to the one that McCarey
offered him. He could not get as much
money out of the Redmond match by
half as McCarey offered him, while he
was taking a needless risk for small
change-risking an injury of the ma
ture that he sustained without any
compensating consideration: A cham-
pion who fights bushers and pork-and-
beaners usually comes to grief in some
way The broken arm sustained by
Wolgast will cost him dearly, as he
will be on the shelf for several weeks,
if not several months, and will lose
the money that he would have earned
in that time. 1t is possible also that
this accident may be more serious
than is expected, and at any rate will
make his hold on the title more pre-
carious than ever, as a fracture is apt
to mend weakly and break at any time
His friends here in Los Angeles, and
they number up in the thousands, sim
cerely sympathize with the game little
champion in his misfortune and hope
that the next report will be to the eff
feet that the injury is not as bad as
now appears and that he will be back
in the game by fall, anyway.
Los Angeles fans will recall Red
mond as the very good preliminary
scrapper who boxed in several bouts
here a year or so ago. He was hard
hitting, fairly clever fighter, and that
Is about all that can be said regarding
his fighting ability. He does not figure
to fight champions or champions,
but he is a popular kid in Milwaukee
fight circles, and that accounts for the
match with Wolgast.
Happy John Walker has arrived
from Frisco with a 13S-pound bull OF
the woods in tow. Happiness called
up last night to inform the public OF
his arrival and to say that Joe Ives
his fighter, is anxious to maui any
13S-pounder that can be dug for him
to amuse himself with. He gets a bit
sassy about it, too, as he says he has
$500 to $1,000 to bet that Joe can whip
anything from a bulldog to a sack
filed with wildcats. His royal happi-
ness can be found at the Mammoth
skating rink most any old time or ap-
pointments and challenges may be
made through the sporting department
of The Herald, Would like to see this
untamed child worked out once, any
way.