Los Angeles herald., 1910-09-06
GRILLS BALLINGER
WHILE SPEECH Of
TAFT YET ECHOES
Governor StubbS of Kansas De-
CIares He Would Kick SeCre-
tary Out of Office
PRESIDENT STATES POSITION
Executive Takes Fling at T. RS
New NationaIiSm' at Con-
servation Congress
(Aaanciated PresaN

ASSOCIATED Press)
ST. PAUL, Sept 5.-The immense
crowd that heard President Taft de-
liver one Of the best speeches Of his
career before the conservation con-
gress here today, missed hearing some
very pointed remarks In the afternoon
delivered by Governor Stubbs of
Kansas.
The Kansas executive pulled his
sleeves up to give his arms full swing,
loosened his necktie to give play to
his vocal organs, and proceeded to re-
mark that If he had the power he
would kick Secretary Ballinger out Of
office.
AS he made this assertion he glared
at the spectators who had not followed
the president to the state fair grounds,
and then surveyed the other governors
who were on the platform.
Later, in private, Governor Hay of
Washington took occasion to inform
Governor Stubbs that he considered
Secretary Ballinger as white a man
as the United States can boast.
"The people of this country should
erect a monument to Clifford Pinchot,'
began Governor Stubbs. "He deserves
it for saving the coal lands of the
country, if for nothing else. I do not
know why it is that corporations and
others that want to steal power sites
and timber want control of natural re-
sources vested in state legislatures.
Anyway, 1 do not take any stock in
this Ballinger idea of running things.
If 1 were president of the United
States would kick him out Of office in
a minute.
DENoUNCES COAL THIEVES
'T'd like to see some Of those Alaska
coal thieves put where they belong"
The militant governor from Kansas
added President Taft had said some
true things and said he, 81 want to
give him credit for it,"
This brief but pointed address, de-
1ivered in vitriolic style, was called
forth by remarks of Governor Norris
of Montana, who in advocating state
control of natural resources, declared
Montana had begun the conservation
of her resources before the federal
government ever began to think of 1t.
isn't it a fact, Governor Norris" de-
nanded Governor Stubs, that the
national government has led in the
development of irrigation in the west?'
''Yes, in the last three or four years,
came the answer.
Mr.. Norris would have made further
answer, but Governor Stubbs was
again addressing the audience.
Eyes, in the last three or four years;
Why, the movement only got started
when Theodore Roosevelt and Clifford
Pinchot got busy. The nation ought to
erect a monument to them"
The Kansan at this point smiled, as
if amused at his own heat, and said,
more calmly:
"I didn't come here to make a speech.
I kind of forgot myself. My intention
was to introduce Governor Vessey OF
South Dakota"
SMALL CROWD PRESENT
The introduction was then made. the
auditorium, which seats 10000 persons,
was filled to hear President Taft, put
the attendance at the afternoon session
was meager to distressing oesree.
By actual count there We're 244 men
and 101 women present. This was
partly due to the fact that the greater
part OF the crowd followed the presl-
dent to the state fair grounds and
nartlv to the wording of the program.
The program scheduled a conference
of governors and addresses by them.
Most people took the word CONFER
ence" to mean the governors Wouio
meet privately and make speeches to
themselves.
Governor Stubbs acted as chairman
of the session. When the meeting was
over Governor Hay walked down the
aisle with him.
81 want to say, Governor Stubbs,
that you're no whittier man than Rich-
ard A. Ballinger," observed the wash
ington leader.
and Land Commissioner ROSS OF
Washington Joined Mr.. Hay.
"I want to add" said Mr. Ross
that Mr.. Ballinger is as white q man
as Roosevelt ever had in his caplnet;
that's what we think of Mr.. Balllnger
out in Washington"
'I said what 1 thought about Bal
linger and I'll say what please about
him" answered Governor Stubbs.
other governors present were Deneen
of Illinois, Brooks OF Wyoming and
Noel of Mississippi.
DENEEN FOR NATIONAL CONTROL
Governor Deneen came out for ma
tional control, and in doing so briefly
to the scandals that have
arisen concerning legislation.
1--WE have a legislature In Illinois,,
he said, that has held both regular
and irregular sessions. AT present 1t Is
below par
This sally was greeted by laughter.
Governor Norris says the Montana
can be trusted" added Mr..
Deneen. 'I'm sorry cannot say that
about ours"
He said the legislature had failed to
enact legislation TO give the state
control of the water power developed
by the drainage canal.
Governor Brooks read the following
resolutions, adopted by the governors
conference at Salt Lake City, and
which, he said, expresses their con-
servation views:
GOVERNORS RESOLUTIONS
"First, that in legislatively solving
the problems of conservation the ma
tionaI congress adhere TO the doc
trine Of Abraham Lincoln, that the
public lands are an impermanent ma
tional possession held in trust for the
states.
Second, that state government, no
less heneficently than national gov
ernment, is capable of devising and
laws for the conserya-
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