The sun., 1910-04-29
$4,000 OR STATES PRISON
TRYING 10 SH0W BLaCkNsGL
GAVE ON TINE KATZ TRIIL.
EN-Emplsyee Of tho windsor Trust Called
60 the witness stand sudslenly 10 EN-
I plaIn ON what Errand ne went 10 See
Defcnsiant's Father. tie Knew ThInKs.

plain on what frrnno tfe Went 70 So
Defcnsiants Father. He Knew ThlnEs.
That some one protesting TO represent
Stirling Birmingham. formerly manager
of the bond department of the Windsor
Trust Company. had attempted TO black
mail the father OF Charles kRta ont Of
$4,000 was what John +. Mcintyre.
counsel for kAtz. tried to show yesterday y
at the trial % Charles KRtz. charged With
the theft Of $4,000 worth Of Hcin1e
stocka from NJ. NJ. Joyce.
Birmingham was being cross-examined
by Mcintyre when the interesting turn
came. Mcintyre asked 10 he was ac-
q,laihted with ". l.. Dicksl. and Birming-
ham admitted that he was. Dickel was In
court and stood up.
Nov I want to ask you said Mcintyre
slowly. If you ever sent that man or a
maa OF the name Of Hauchhaus TO Gee
Bernard kA,z, the father Of the de-
fendantl'
4 did not Birmin CHAM replied.
did you authorize any one 20 say 90
Bernard KAtz that you were down aud out
and that unless you got 5000 you would
90 on the stand and swear Charley into
State prison.
4 did not
did you write OF authorize the writing
Of a letter 20 the defendants fa,herP'
Birmingham said no. and when letter
was shown TO him he said that he knew
nothing Of =.
Did you authorize = man Of tho name
oT Leo Stein 70 60 90 katz and demand
81 .OOO for your Birmingham said that he
did not.
Then Mcintyre asked II at tho noon
recess Birmingham had sent a man TO
him 90 tell him that It would lie io the
interest u katZ that Mcintyre should
see Birmingham before Birmingham took
the stand.
The Jury was sitting M and taking
notice. Birmingham replied N an even
tone that he knew nothing Of such a
message.
We'll. tell me- this Said McIntyre
Didn't MIR. Mott. the District Attorney =
assistant who - prosecuting this Gaze.
tell You that he had heard that persons
using your name were worrying rhe katz
family and that IL you had anything To DO
With Il you had better call them on
Mr. Mott looked surprised. B,rming-
hams answer was No
Mcintyre turned toward the audience
and in a loud voice asked Where ~ the
man that told me those thingsf' No one
replied
Mr. Mott asked birmingham " he had
aant nickel to see katz Birmingham said
that he had not but that he had been told
tha; Dickel had been To see katz Mott
turned toward where Dickel was sitting.
Here. yoa.- aid the Assistant District
At,ornsy Whats your name' Come uTi
here Dickel came mp and was sworn.
What - your busineSsy- asked Mott.
Il have none. SAID Dickei. i worked
for the Windsor Trust Company until the
first OF last september. when they cut my
salary and quit
NO
did you ever 20 20 see katz,
4 did | knew some things that Blrm-
inRham knew about karz and as ] had
heard that the kaiz. people were looking
for Birmingham to make oyertures 20 him
wanted 10 le, them know how they could
What do YOU know that Birmingham
knows that would interest katz.
-Ahout the d'spo~,tion of the proceeds
of the sale " the Hesn1e stocks was
told that with part Of the SlO.ODO katz got
as his sharr he paid - JOO for gambling
debts at the Marqsleite Club. and | also
heard SOME things that he said To friends
when they asked HIM Why they hadn't
seen him around the club lately
What was that
-Eafz aid that ne had that game
skinned TO death and hat h" was going
10 make sI3.Uo ~ few days without
turning loose "A cent
What did yol tell ka,z's father when
YOU went Co $50 him
4 told him nothing. as he went up IN the
air from the first
on cryp---sxamination by MCIntvre
Dickel said that h. had heard all this
from Birmingham's lawyer "" denied
that he had sad anything about money To
the elder Katz and SAID that he iooked him
4. -. . - aN.U
Interested This morning DIckeI Will be
uuesi ioned further