New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-11-19

| stood. and l simply told him he was Iol
| the bill, and that was all"
| Also HobIey testified in fat contra die
ton of Schroeders testimony, that he
| had never talked with the late Pat
McCarren or with Conrad Hasentlug
about the bill, or about Foelker's stand
upon it.
Supported McCarren's Opposition.
Conrad Hasenfiug. the next witness,
also put Schroeder in the Ananias Club
Mr. Hasenfiug, as a Senator from the
9th District in Kings, in 1903, voted
| against the bills.
For two reasons" he explained,
THE first was that my constituents We're
against them, and the second because
Senator McCarren, the county leader,
was against them"
McCarren never told him he was
against them, HasenIlug explained, but
he knew it.
Schroeder's testimony in one part told
of how the then Senator Hasenfug called
him up one Sunday, when the Agnew-
Hart bills were pending, and said:
Fred what's the matter with that
damn Senator of yours?'' And after
some conversation between them as to
| the stand Foell1er had taken he replied:
"AH right, COMFY; III see what I
can do"
That's all wrong" commented Hasen-
hug when Judge Bruce read it to him
from the records. I never called up
Mr.. Schroeder, and never spoke to him
| in any way about the racing bills
Hasenffug added that he had never
had any conversation with FoeIker.
either, about the racing bills.
Alfred ]. Gilchrist, who was, in 1907
and 1898, the Senator from the 10th
Kings District, followed Hasenfug to
the stand.
| He had never been approached by any
one at Albany in connection with the
racing bills, he said, and didn't know
any one who had He voted against the
| bills, he said. but If the committee want
| ed to knew what he thought about tbs
alleged racetraCk lobby fund he doubted
the whole story of such q fund; abso-
lutely doubted it.
| tributed" prompted Mr.. Bruce.
| MI Jones explained that the layers"
! bought 80 tickets, s. tickets of each as
ISOLATION, each day Of racing That was
$500 day he added, and by way of eX-
! PLANTATION he pointed out that this $500 a
| day enabled the racing associations TO
put up that much more in purses, and
there you had the improving OF the
! breed Of horses"
Mr. Bruce wanted TO know how the
business of the layers" had been con-
Quoted after the Agnew-Hart bills were
enacted into law, but Mr.. Jones ex-
planned gently that as he was under in
dictment he could scarcely answer that
question freely, and it was withdrawn
Put Bookmakers Out of Business.
Getting down to the activity of the
Metropolitan Turf Association in connec-
ton with the opposition to the racing
bill. Mr.. Jones was quite willing to ad-
to that measure
Put the bookmakers out of business,
didn't it," queried Judge Bruce.
Mr. Jones let the lawyers slip in the
term go by that time
In a measure" he admitted. carefully.
The former treasurer of the association
repeated in answer to several leading
questions that there had been no as
sessment for a fund to defeat the bills,
but he went on TO say that not being
treasurer at that time he was not
member of the executive committee, and
therefore didn't know what the money
colIet ted on various assessments had
been used for He thought that Davies,
Stone & Auerbach, and also Delaney
Nicoil. had appeared as lawyers in be-
half of the bill. but wasn't sure
II appeared that 1.-The layers" simply
contributed of their cash at the call of
the executive committe, and that com
mittee was not required To and did not
at any time make any report OF the dis
bursement OF any moneys collected
Francis r. Hitchcock was another
witness of the morning session He
came to the committees room with