Arizona republican., 1910-04-30
TESTIMONY OF EXPERTS That Stage Has Been Reached
 In Hyde Trial SW0PE DIED 0f POISON
Declared a Physician Who Had Assisted in Autopsy. His Opinion Regarding Typhoid Fever Epidemic in Swope Residence

Kansas City. April sS.-With tine calling of Dr Frank L. Hall. pa- thologist to the witness stand today. the Hyde murder trial entered the complicated realm pf expert t.ssti- rnony. Dr. Hall assisted Or. Ludwig Hektoen of Chicago to make the au- topsy on Col Thomas IL Swop,s body on January IT. and later cou- ducted an investigation to determine if possible the source of the typhoid epidemic in the Swope residence.
 Practically all the examination cf The pathologist dealt with the condi- ton of SwOpe's vital organs st the time of the post mortsm.
 on redirect examination Dr. Hal said he believed there was nothing about the organs to indicate death by natural causes He said: T do not think Col Swope died of apo pleXy"
 Prompted by Dr. Hyde. and bring ing into use scores of medical terms Attorney Frank P Walsh ercss-eN- amined the witness It developed
  normal. One had had d tumor tWo inches in length upon it. Both were congested. atrophied and granular
 If Col Swope had died of ursemic poisoning there would have been con vulsions and it would have been i'm possible to have located the poison. The symptoms of uraemic poisoning closely resemble those of cyanide poi soning
 There was humorous growth in the intestines of SwOpe. SWope's aorta was hardened from the arch to below the diaphragm.
 In closing the crOss-examinstiop. Walsh asked Hall if he did not tell him d few weeks ago that if he had been called upon to give death certificate in Swope's case he would have ascribed the cause to senile de- bility
 ''I did" answered the witness
 After presenting d long hypothetical question in which the symptoms of Swope were fully described. Atwood asked:
 Now. in such a case. what would you say?'
 "I would say the patient had been poisoned" replied fIall.
 Walsh then asked a hypothetical question. emphasizing the old age weaknesses of Swope. and asked H it were proved or not known that poison had been administered the wit ness would say death had resulted from poisoning.
 No should not say it in thsi case responded Hall
 The witness said he was unable tr locate the source of the typhoid cpl demic in the Swope residence. lt seemed to him that the germs had been introduced in a mass by some one bent upon scientific experiment. This suggestion he made to Mrs Swope and shocked her. said the Us- thologist.
 Dr. Elmer Tiyman testified during the afternoon session that he had made several tests for meningitis upon Chrisman Swope. and none of them showed that he was suffering from tINs afflietion. pr. Hyde con tended. however. that this was the cause of the young mans illness. Dr. Twyman said. Tests for typhoid sc yer were readily responded to. added the physician.
 pr. Hektoen. the first of the scieu- lists employed by the prosecution. was in the courtroom today. but was not called to the witness stand. Ills testimony will be heard tomorrow.
 Mrs William Beebe. wife Of ona of the jurynen. is in a critical cor dition at a local hospital. IL is feared that the trial may be postponed on account of her illness ar death a' any time.