Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1910-07-16
Speaker Cannon and Clifford Pin
chot Have an lmpromptu
And Warm Debate.
MAJ. POWELL OR ROOSEVELT?
Uncle Joe Admits lie Has Made Mis-
takes aud Takes Slap at
Ex-Chlcf Forester.

NhloeAo W. ohAg III u lllIil
and Speaker Joseph O. Cannon engaged
IN an .NtemporaneOus debate upon CON
seiNatUn before the hnife and Forh
club here tonight and WINE eacn gave
expression to the highest personal re-
gdld Tor the other ana while both agreed
tnut conservation OF the nations uatu-
, ial resources should be encouraged.
tney dilereu az IL who was the father
Oi conservation
Mr. Cannon who spoke first said
the late j, W. Powell, at one time ut-
rector OF the government geological
survey, deserved the honor, but Mr.
Pnchut asserted that Theodore Roose-
welt was the father OF conservation
MIR. cannon explained that ne was
on his way to Winfield. Kan to mako
his frst ChauJauqua appearance.
Il am not in the Chautauqua work
regularly he added, and l am ask
ing no fee for present appearance"
He said conservatism and reclama-
tion were Important but they were not
his spccalties. II never specialize ex-
cept In the business of playing car"
he added
He said Columbus broke an egg and
made 1t stand on end and that any
man could do the same thing after
Columbus had shown him how.
SAYS POWELL WAS FATHER.
And J. w Powell was father OF
conservation" shouted the speaker.
At was Iowell, san AIR. cannon, VINO
appeaicd Ia hun wncu he Was chair
man OF the house committee on appro-
pilations ~ 40 something Tor conserve
ZION.
"A sent Powell 10 Senators Hale and
AihsOH ana tue senate as "a result OF
ms conference win those senators.
started legislation 10 Withdraw all pub
nc lands tnat could be irrigated AS |
we'll
Cannon.
'Ino house was In favor OF the legis-
latlon but the senate fought A. l8ut |
IN 1880 the civil sundry BIN as passed. /
contained provision Withdrawing ali |
water power sites That was the pio-
neeg work of conservation We lost
our fight with the senate in our efforts
10 Withdraw from entry all public lands
that could be irrigated but we won |
the other proposition"
Turning To MI. Pinchot, Mr.. Cannon
said
Il have the greatest personal regard
Tor you. but understand you are now
engaged in conservation work for the
organization OF new party.
Il tell you, sir. that a party cannot
stand on single issue, now although |
our party did stand on single issue
once In that great conflict between SER
vile and free labor"
Speaking OF his record as a public
official the speaker said:
CANNON ADMITS MISTAKES.
II admit / have made mistakes
Great God! | have been mistaken d
score or times in the last So years.
There are other fellows in Congress who
nave been wrong just as often, but
thsy are not honest enough to admit
Mr.. Cannon shook hands with Mfr
at h.. Ia.
ana apologized because ne had to leave |
without hearing him. Il have 10 catch :
train FOR winfield" said Mr. Cannon
brother Pinchot, | am sorry | had 10 :
speak first i always talk better when
some one 'expectorates In my face or /,
KICKS me on the shins" :
MIR. Cannon was not on the regular a.
program, but having stopped over al 1
ne hotel whore the dinner was given
ne was invited to attend and responded
% an invitation To address the club
Mr. flnchot was given a great ova- {
Ion when he rose TO speak.
PINCHoT FOR ROOSEVELT. ID
Theodore Roosevelt was the father 4,
u conservation in this country" he ! n
aid. The National Conservation asso- A
iauon IS continuing the work he s
tarted The last session OF Congress- IA,
ia great work and our association ~,
vas largely responsible for H. Tho
withdrawal bin as It PASSED was dne
arsely TO the efforts OF the associa- I
ion
I'VE now intend the people must he
omPensated for what the private in
erests get The old practise OF Civ
ng perpetual rights TO private in
arests Is now impossible, and tho OF
ltnre Is now safe against the oppres- d,
Ion OF monopoly n,
The fundamental idea OF conserva- n
on Is 10 make Of this country A bet- N
Pr nome Tor the race and to make n,
ne race better one in that home n,
he nation should think about its an
Marvellous riches Conservation docs w.
OF mean lost opportunity for Develop ID.
rent nut so To use the countrv's | 90
atural resources that the people who |
,me after as may also enjoy them.
believe a new school OF politics r
coming In the United States This |
ew school viii decide whether the |,
'untry shall be governed by money
'r proht or By men for human vol L
ire | made speech in ST Paul re-
unity ana IN connection with that
,eeeh somebody mentioned the nos ne
arty "'" IN
Mr.. Cannon's reference TO me in IN
AT connection doubtless is due 10 or
Is having read some headlines al all
at ,,ne' lhe essential questions be- I
re the people now are outside OF no
'rtN lines In looking over the me
imcs or those who voted for the "a n
ayne-Aldrich tarim bin. | am led 7
believe that regular Republicans n
~ regular Democrats are the same -
Il am Republican. and 1 do NOT 49, 49,
'lieve In the necessity Of a third Na.
'rty az this time. And there won't 4
any VII
II am not a Cannon Republican nor ING
Aldrich Republican. but I am a sec
1lliVer, Cummins Beverldge. Ia n.
'llette, Murdoch, Norris. Stubbs re qu'
lplcan and ! like 20 be counted y
1ong that kind OF cattle me
Is FOR INSURGENT. u.
i am on my way TO speak for an
urgent candidate FOR Congress in
llfornia This is my first appearance |
politics
Mr. Cannon said that Marty
mot stand on one issue Well I -
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