Newark evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1909-1916, 1910-05-17
SECRETS TOLD At
BALL|NGER PROBE
BY CLERK KERRY

son was connected. He said he had re-
ceived no Instructions from the assoc
citation yet.
Senator N~elson-"You haven't been
mustered in YETI"
Kerby-"I can't say as I have"
Mr.. Vertrees wanted to know II mat
ters he had mentioned were all that
he knew to the dIscredit of M. Bal
linger. Kerby replied that he did not
know of anything else. but he objected
to the use of the word "discredlt." He
added, however, that he thought If Bal
,inger believed Newell incompetent he
should have told him so. Moreover, he
did not think Thomson was the proper
man for the place. He admitted he
based his opinion of him on the cor
respondence Thomson had had with
Ballinger.
|. Sold secret for Job.
Mr.. Kerby at great length detailed
the circumstances which led him to
make public his statements. He toldt
Of visits to him by various newspaper
men. He said he had many conferences
with them. Referring to his under
standing that If he lost his position he
| would be provided with another, he
said: II
"Otherwise I could not have done
what ! did"
Then 1t was agreed said Mr.. YER
trees, before you made your state
ment hat If you would make 1t you
would be taken care OFF, !.
| Mot bacauca 7 made the statement.
| but because / would be fred replied
| kerby.
Later Wilson, he said, brought Col
| yer and Hickey, two other newspaper
men, to talk the matter over with his
| wife. He told them it would not be
proper to make the statement they
suggested. and they appeared to be
satisfied with that decision on his part.
Mr.. Colver told him he. had come
from Cleveland for a story and instead
| had found a man"
ANY time I wanted to get out of the
interior department" he said, "he
would see that | was taken care Of.
He said they were constantly on the
lookout for young men whom they
could use and he would be ready to
| offer me a position at any time.
LAWYER Is Accused of Lying.
The next day l read the testimony
Of Secretary Ballinger, In which he de-
MED any knowledge of the Lawyer
memorandum. and he made statements
which | did not believe to be true. The
committee apparently wanted lone of
thai testimony and the matter was
closed. In my opinion. therefore. I
1 ..a,,1l ,,at bo o1IIa6 a q a urifnaoc fn rahtIf
testimony that was not admitted on d.
rect examination. Mr.. Lawler had also
made the statement that no copies Of
that memoranda had been retained.
That was not true, for, in fact, four
copies of the memoranda were made.
Mr.. Brandeis told me-" he continued,
that he believed the action of the COM
mitttee cut me off from showing what
the facts were. l came to the conclu-
sion hat the only thing for me to do
was to make the facts public. NJ. Bal
linger had said all the facts should be
made public, and | determined to give
the story to the newspapers
Mr.. Kerby said he considered the in
formation as having material bearing
upon the investigation. Mr.. Brandeis
had previously made a call for the
memoranda, which he said ought to
have ELECTED this information. There
fore. he was the only one through
whom it could be made public.
Kerby explained how he knew the
memoranda referred to was in the inte-
rior department. He had accidentally
seen the paper in the desk or Private
Secretary Carr.
Sorry He Pceped.
Massey told me | ought not to look
at IT." said Kerby. 81 am sorry myself
that I saw It,"
He explained that he thought Secre-
tary BalIinger had no right to- examine
the memorandum Lawler prepared for
the President. Pressed for his knowl-
edge that Mr.. Ballinger had examined
1t, the witness said:
HE read portions of it, at least
The witness told how he had per-
mitted his notebook TO be photographed.
You took it out and had 1t photo
rraphed? % asked Mr.. Vertrees.
s.You bet ] did" snapped the witness
emphaticallN
"Yo, made this statement from a
sense of duty to the public and to the
committee? ~ asked Senator Purcell.
II certainly did"