The Washington times., 1910-11-14
Fogel Will Not Have to Show
Who Owns PhillieS, as
Was Expected.
HERMANN WANTS
DUTIES DEFINED
Philadelphia President Weakens in
His Stand Against Man
ageT Doom.

PHILADELPHIA. NV 14-Horaee
spectacular FogeI. president Of the
Philadelphia club. after vov-ine, he
never, never, never would Go anything
or the sort, has o. K-d the deal made
oy his manager. Charley Doom. with
the Cincinnati team. involving the ex-
change Of Pitchers lev MOren and
George McQuillan, Third Baseman Ed
ole Grant, and C,iUfeIder Johnny
Bates for TvvirIers Jack Rowan ana
Fred Beebe. Third Bascaaan Hans Lo-
pert and Suburbanite George Paskert
HustlInS Horace early last week saw
that he would have Il Withdraw his
objections to the trade made by Doom
and gracefully reIir Tuished the lead
ing role in the baseball drama en-
Titled III Be Hanged If I Do" last
Saturday night
The president, but not the owner. Of
the Phillies. allowed Garry Hermann.
owner Of the Reds. l. make the Of
hicial announcement that the swap. as
made three weeks ago by Doom and
griffith. had gone through The chief
OF the RhineldndeTs did not gIOat over
the backdOrn Of FogeI.
Hermann Denounced
Hermann, after Griffith and Doom
had made the deal involving eight
players. signed McQuiIIan and Bates.
and offered contracts to Moren and
Grant The action of the chief Of Red
land IN signing the two former Phil
lies was denounced as anarchfStTc nv
FOgel, Hermann saying nothing, and
being willing TO take the consequences
OF his move.
Doom resigned tire sxanaEement Of
the Phiilies when FogeI objected to
the trade he had made and il is no
certainty tlat the auburn haired re-
QUakers on the diamond next year,
even though the deal ne planned has
nnally gone through
No Rumpus Now.
With the biz trade an actual thing
now, there VIII be no pig rumpus be-
tween Hermann and Fogel at the next
meeting Of the National League The
only aftermath OF the deal will be the
investigation that viii take place re-
garding the powers OF q manager to
trade and sell players. In the past in
cidents have cropped up showing the
need Of a managers powers 10 be out
When John McCIoskey was manager
OF the 81. Louis Cardinals he fixed I'D
several trades that his employer stan
ley Robson, never would sanction One
deal that the St Louis magnate spoiled
was that of Harry SaIIee for Heinie
zimmerman McClOSkey and Chance
Robson baked on il and probably is
sOTry now he did
History Repeated.
The late George Dovey, at the time he
engaged Joe Kelly TO act as manager Of
the Doves, announced that Sir Joseph
would have fun authority 10 do anything
he wanted 10 in the way Of hiring. firing
or trading players, yet when Kelly and
McGraw agreed on the big deal involv-
ing Dan ACGann, Bill Dahlen, Jack
Hannifan, George Cecil Ferguson Frank
BOWerman- Tom Needham. Al BridEv
and Fred IS11ey- DOvey AT first refused
TO sanction his pilots move and only did
so at the urging of Harry Pulliam.
IN 1913 the owners Of the phiilieS
through Felix Isman, tried TO turn
Sherwood Magee and Earl Moore over 10
the Giants IN exchange for Nike Don
lin but Manager Billy Murray blocked
their plans, which probably was the
reason that Murray was tin-canned by
the new owners Of the club