Los Angeles herald., 1910-07-16
CAR CANNON AND
PINCHOT DEBATE
ON CONSER VATION
Uncle Joe Says J. w. Powell
@ Was Founder of Policy
of Conservation
THIRD PARTY NOT NECESSARY
Former Chief Forester on Way to
California to Stump
State
THIRD PARTY NOT NECESSARY
Associated Press1

ASSOCIATED Press1
KANSAS CITY, July 15.-Gifford
Pinchot and Speaker ]. G. Cannon en-
gagged in an extemporaenous debat on
conservation before the Knife and Fork
club here tonight and while each gave
expression to the highest personal re-
gard for the other and both agreed that
| conservation of the nations natural re-
sources should be encouraged they diff
fered as to who was the father of con-
| servation.
-. w. Powell was father of conser-
vation,' shouted the speaker. 1t was
Powell, he said, who appealed to him
when he was chairman of the house
committee of appropriations to do
| something for conservation.
Il sent Powell to Senators Hale and
Allison and as a result of his confer
ence with those senators, legislation
was started to withdraw all public
lands that could be irrigated as we'll
as all reservoir Sites" said Mr.. Can
non.
1.-THE house was in favor of the legis-.
lation but the senate fought it. But in
1890 the civil sundry bill as passed con-
| tanned a provision withdrawing all wa
ter power sites. That was the pioneer
work of conservation. We lost our fight
| with the senate in our efforts to with
draw from entry all public lands that
| could be irrigated, but we won the
other proposition"
Mr.. Cannon shook hands with Mr..
Pinchot at the conclusion of his speech
and apologized because he had to leave
without hearing him.
i 81 have to catch a train for Winfield"
said Mr.. Cannon. Brother Pinchot, I
am sorry l had to speak first. al
| t11lr hattnr Nphnr nv.
-pectorates in my face or kicks me on
the shins."
Mr. Cannon was not on the regular
program, but having stopped over at
the hotel where the dinner was given,
he was invited to attend and respond
ed to an invitation to address the club.
OVATION FOR PINoHoT
Mr.. Pinchot was given a great ova-
ton when he rose to speak.
Theodore Roosevelt was the father
of conservation in this country" he
said. "The National Conservation as
socation is continuing the work he
started. The last session of congress
/ did great work, and our association
was largely responsible for it. The
withdrawal bill as it passed was due,
| largely to the efforts of the associa-
ton.
1--WE now intend that the people be
compensated for what the private in
I terests get The old practice of giving
perpetual grants to private interests is
now impossible, and the future is now
safe against the oppression OF
monopoly.
1.-THE fundamental idea of conserva-
tion is to make of this country better
| home for the race, and to make the
race a better one in that home. The
nation should think about its marvel
Gus riches. Conservation does not
| lo1,A Ac
use the country's natural resources
that the people who come after US may
also enjoy them. 1 believe q new
school of politics is coming in the
United States. This new school will
decide whether the country shall be
governed by money for profit or by
| men for human welfare. I made
| speech in st. Paul recently, and in
connection with that speech somebody
mentioned the possibility Of the or
| ganization of a new party.
MISLEADING STATEMENT
"Mr. Cannon's reference to me In
| that connection doubtless is due to his
| having read some headlines at that
! time. The essential questions before
the people now are outside OF party
| lines In looking over names of those
who voted for the Payne-Aldrich tariff
| bill l am led to believe that regular
| Republicans and regular Democrats
are the same.
Il am a Republican and I do not be-
lieve in the necessity of a third party
/ at this time And there won't be any.
II am not a Cannon Republican nor
an Aldrich Republican, but am a Dol
liver, Cummins, Beveridge, LaFollette,
| Murdoch, Norris, Stubs Republican,
and like to be counted among that
kind of cattle.
ON TO CALIFORNIA
81 am on my way to speak for an
| insurgent candidate for congress in
| California. This is my first appear
ance in politics.
MIR. Cannon said that party can
not stand on one issue. Well, know
! thusiastic on the one proposition of
standing pat. I want to be counted
| with the men who go ahead
81 have an exceedingly kind feeling
for the speaker. The old man in his
fight with Murdock and the old insur-
gents stood for an obsolete tradition,
but he was manly about it. 1t is sad
thing when men who have done their
work must stand aside and give the
leadership to others. But this has ever
been the history of progress.
81 think 1 am as good Republican
as Mr. Cannon"
"But some of us are Democrats"
shouted someone in the audience.
'I am glad you said that" answered
Mr.. Pinchot, "for the ideals of public
spirited Democrats are exactly the
same as the ideals of public spirited
Republicans. We must all work to-
gether to put the special interests cut
of politics..
MAJOR POWELL
1.-THE speaker mentioned Maj. Powell.
He was a great man. Frederick Ii.
Newell is the same kind of a man. l
consider Mr.. Newell the best officer
now in the federal service at Washing
ton.
"The greatest tribute ever given Mr..
Roosevelt was that of an English
writer, who said that when president
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