Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-06-09
ORGANIC ACT DEBATE
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Der the county or the congressional
district that IL is in, but know IL is
fact.
Mr. Cox of Indiana. Where is It?
Mr.. Tawney. In the State of Texas.
Mr. Cox OF Indiana. When was that?
Mr.. Hamilton. Does the gentleman
from Minnesota know of single
river or stream of any size in Ha.
wall?
Mr.. Tawney. ] do not. and do
not think the gentleman from Mich.
igan knows of any of any conse.
quence.
Mr. Hamilton. do not, because
there are none.
MIR Tawney And that is why
have protested against appropriating
money for gauglng streams.
Mr.. Hamilton. Does the gentleman
contend that certain things will be
done when nothing is to be done?
Mr.. Tawney VIII the gentleman
say why the Geological Survey esti.
mated for an appropriation Of $4,000
for gauging streams In the Territory
OF Hawaii when there were no
streams to gauge?
Mr. Hamilton. Did they get any ap.
preparation for II?
Mr. Tawney. No. they did not; and
that Is the reason they came to you
and got this provision put into the or.
ganic law Of Hawaii
Mr. Hamilton. Oh. I deny that.
Mr. Tawney. II this provision is
adopted they do not need TO come to
Congress. All they need to do is to
go to the department and make their
application for an apportlonment of
so much OF the general appropriation
as Congress makes, and we have moth.
ing to say as to whether that money
shall he expended in Hawaii or where
II shall be expended.
Mr.. Good Does the gentleman
think that the department that dis
tributes these appropriations Is ca.
pable Of distributing them In all 9th.
er places in the United States except
In the Territory OF Hawaii. and when
It comes to Hawaii II Is not capable
of making that distribution?
Mr.. Tawney. The argument OF the
gentleman would apply to Alaska and
Porto Rico and to all OF our insular
possessions.
Mr. Hamilton. How would It apply
To Alaska? ..u..... ...
Mr.. Tawney. Because We make
specific appropriations for Alaska.
The Geological Survey. according .
the theory OF the gentleman from 10
wa tMr. Good. ought to have !uma
sum appropriation. and then distribute
that appropriation to Alaska rs wei.
as to the other parts OF the United
States, but In case Of doing that Con.
gress wants to know how much Nancy
we are expending In our insular pos
sessions. and for that reason We make
specific appropriations for the service
in these outlying Territories. anG for
all other branches of the public SER
vice-in Alaska and In Guam and In
Porto Rico. We do not allow the
department to make expenditures in
insular possessions without specific
authority for that purpose.
Now. let me call attention to an.
other fact. The gentleman from Mis-
souri, said this morning that under ex.
listing conditions we would not secure
any service from the Coast and Geo.
detlc Survey.
will say to the gentleman that the
Islands of Hawaii and the Philippine
Islands as well as the Pacific coast
and the coast OF Alaska. are all ap.
propriated for in the sundry civil ap
preparation bill specifically, and so II
is on the Atlantic coast. The Light.
House Service Is appropriated for,
= and the Lighthouse Service is be
ing carried on In Hawaii as It is in
Porto Rico. but the, appropriations
are made by Congress for that ser
vice.
My objection TO this provision is
not because | am unfriendly to Ha.
wall. ! perhaps have taken as much
interest In the Territory OF Hawaii as
any other man on the floor OF this
House. think II Is the garden spot
of the world, but do not want this
House to forfeit the opportunity to
scrutinize appropriations or estimates
for appropriations for expenditure In
that Territory any more than | would
want u to forfeit the opportunity to
scrutinize estimates for public ex.
penditures In any Territory or In any
part of the United States. and that is
what viii happen. because with this
provision here Incorporated into the
law the general appropriations are
available for expenditure In Hawaii
Without any estimates at all.
Without making any estimates al
all the Geological Survey. or any 9th
er branch OF the public service that
has anything to do In Hawaii can sub
NIT their estimates for appropriations
and we may never know that they
contemplated expanding dollar In
Hawaii, but when the appropriation
is made, although made without al
estimate, the appropriation may BIZ
expended and will be expended wheth.