New-York tribune., 1910-05-08

from, the Cunningham claimants 1t was inc
n1an of Jones and CLAWS not TO incorporate
:, their reports all statements made py Ihe
claimants. but only such statements as
tended TO show fraud. Jones SAID ne lI
NOT nut down every lie told him by CLAIM
ant. and declared that in getting inIorrla-
+Io-, from Cunningham it was his plan 10
obsass the mind of Cunningham with me
"Cuggenheim transaction bugahoo
Mr. Rrandeis wanted 10 know If II was
not a fact that it was common Tam IL,
Seattle in 1907 that there was great 1rauo
:; tho aoouirenent of coal lands in Alaska
Mr. Ballinger. replied in the negative He
had retired as Mayor Of Seattle the pre-
cedirp year. and if anything of that klno
Was in the public mind hundreds of MS
friends would have asked him about II, as
he was then Commissioner OF the General
Land Office
Al This point Mr. Brandeis said that Mr.
RalIinger probably read an article on thls
subject which appeared in 1.-The Seattle
Star" After he had been told the date OF
the article Mr.. Ballinger said Mr.. Brandels
was 'on the wrong track He was not i'll
Seattle at the time the article was printed
and. besides, he did not read THE Star
Later he intimated that he would have paid
no attention to an article in this newspaper
even had he read it
This Pinchot Conspiracy"
caorA+ar,, RaIlInger denounced CLAWS for
"a ling in with this conspiracy of Mr. Pin
ebot and the others in going TO the Presi-
dpnt with his complaint. -'fie should have
gone TO his superior, Mr.. Schwartz, in whom
he has testified he had the fullest con-
fdence" he said
Mr. Brandeis called Mr. Ballinger's at
tention 10 the fact that just before the
Cunningham claims were clear-llsted for
ratent Cunningham had written TO Daniel
Guggenheim that he was assured the
patents would be cleared up in ninety days;
that Miles c. Moore had visited Washing
ton, and that the clear-isting quickly fol-
lowed the acceptance OF the Guggenheim
option.
Can YOU suggest anything that will ex-
plain these coinCidences?'' asked the at
torney.
Il have no knowledge OF any of these
transactions" replied Secretary Ballinger.
Il knew nothing OF the Guggenheim option
until after this investigation began
should not be called upon to explain coinci-
dences that l know nothing at all about
AS 10 cunningham ftlttE 70 NbbBt+ilF4htr
il looks like q pretty strong statement he
WAS making in trying to get Guggenheim
to come through on some deal they had
In mind"
Just before the hearing closed Mr. Bal
Ilnger recited in detail his relations with
the few Cunningham claimants with whom
he was personally acquainted. He said he
had known G. j. Smith and Horace Henry
for many years, as both were among the
most prominent and high class men in
Seattle He had never had any dealings.
business or political, with either Of them.
He was not even indirectly associated with
them such as being director or officer OF
any corporation with which they were con-
nected He had an even less intimate
ouaintance with Ex-Governor Miles g.
Moore whose home is at WaIla Walla, sew
eral hundred miles from Seattle n. q.
Nelson now dead. was prominent bust
ness man Of Seattle. He Was strong Re
publican, and Mr., Ballinger said he knew
him well. He did not have even a speak
ing acquaintance with A B. Campbell, and
nothing more than mere casual acquaint-
ance with Mr.. Finch.