The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1910-04-08
NJ 'CLEARY ADMITS
HE GOT THE MONEY.
Former Congressman Had His
Expenses" Paid by the Mer-
chant Marine League.
WAS CHIEF BOOSTER
FOR THE SHIP SUBSIDY
Unable to State Just What
Amount He Received, or How
He Spent 1t.

w WASHINGTON, April 7-Testifying
he had received in checks from 5000
TO $1,000 from the merchant marine
league of the United States to cover
expenses in speechmaking trips and
that he had never received dollar in
cash. Former Representative James r.
McCleary Of Minnesota, once second as.
sIstant postmaster general. occupied the
witness stand at today's session OF
the house ship subsidy investigating
committee
Beidcs the special committee there
was an array of individuals interested
IN the legislation, including Chairman
Greene, of the house merchant marine
committee; Representative Humphrey of
Washington. the Trainer of the ship sub
sidy bill reported from the merchant
marine committed; Representative
Steenerson of Minnesota. who demanded
the investigation; Representative Kut-
termau of Wisconsin,; John A. Penton,
secretary of the league, and Repre-
sentative Nye of Minnesota, who may
appear as Steenerson 8 counsel,
Changes His Testimony.
Mr. McCleary was given permi ssion to
correct the record of his previous testi.
mony, saying that instead Of the
league ''not equalina the expense he
wished to say that they did not materi-
ally exceed his expenses.
Mr. Garrett of Tennessee, Democrat
for the committee. questioned him close
ly as 10 this
Mr.. McClcary explained he always ac.
ce,pted the league IS invitations to make
addresses If he could get away at the
time; that money not being a material
consideration he had not kept a memo
randum; that some times months passed
without his receiving any money from
the league; that "theY simply gave inc
what they thought fully covered my ex.
penses. He SAID in this they consid
cred his expenses such as a man who
had occupied the positions he had should
spend, entertaining friends If he hap
pened TO meet them.
He sald he had no knowledge OF any
other body, similar 10 the merchant ma
rine league, spending money in that
way, nor of any other individuals wh;
had spoken for the league in the same
way he had though he had no doubt
others were speaking for the same pur
pose. the question being a ''live one
that ought TO be agitated.
Sometimes there would be months
and then would come check for large
amount, Mr.. McCleary said
''Can YOU roughly estimate what has
been paid you'll asked Representative
Garrett.
Might Have Had Thousand.
'Such an estimate would have to be
very rough. the witness replied. :"
should say between $500 and $1,000
have been making these addresses about
fifteen months. Some of the trip:
have been long
''Where have YOU spoken7'
''At Hutchinson. Kansas; Chicago
before the State Manufacturers asso
citation; indianapolis, before the Manu-
facturers association, Cincinnati, be
fore the board of trade: Cleveland, two
or three times, sometimes 10 deliver pub
lie addresses and sometimes to hold
conf ereDces with the executive commit
tee of the organization; Ashtabula
OHIO; New Orleans, Birmingham. twice
in New York City and at Dallas,
Texas.
Will YOU file statement of amounts
YOU have receivedY' Mr. Garrett
asked
81 don L believe I could" the wit.
ness replied, u kept no memorandum.
In one instance | got $500. Then ! had
not received anything from them for a
long time.
conccrnl' Mr.. Garrett asked.
~ am sorry 10 say that | do not. |
have no interest. other than any Ameri-
can has. ] never received n dollar
knowingly from anybody ha wing any
such interest
Penton will testify Mt the afternoon
session tomorrow.