The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-03-19

room. All he would say was that 1T
wasn't very long Murtha then
brought out that when Hammond
came into the committee room look
ing for his gloves he remained but q
moment or two and then went out
again. The bags containing the money
tee room, near the head OF the table.
when Hammond left on this occasion.
did Hammond go on upstairs!''
asked Murtha.
Il didn't see where he went" an,
red the witness,
II was shortly after this that Ram
to stepped into the wash room.
Were you surprised when you
came back and found the grips gomez
Murtha resumed.
Yes, was"
You don't know whether Hammond
took the grips or not. do your
No. | don't know that he took
them"
You were talking with Mr.. Lude
and Mr.. Whiting during the recess a
few moments ago, were you notv'
Yes, SIR
Talking about this case, weren't
YOU?
Not that recall"
WAS not this remark made TO you
BY one OF the men. AS we recall II,
Hammond came back while You were
In the wash room and took the
satchels?'"
1T might have been"
Admitted Making Remark.
Rambo later admitted that such a
remark had been made to him by the
prosecutor.
Then you were discussing your
testimony with these three gentle
men?"
Yes, sir"
Rambo said Hammond had assisted
in puttirY up the pay roll TO the ex'
tenn of sealing some OF the envelopes,
What did you say when you came
back from the wash room and iouhd
the grips gone'"
II said what's become of the grips?
or something TO that effect.
"wnat reply was made"
"Lude said that Mr.. Hammond had
taken the grips upstairs
You are under bond 10 the f.
ME-. as paymaster. are you not?"
Prosecutor Van Zile objected to the
question. which was evidently for the
rur pose Of showing that all the pay
masters, including Hammond. were
under bond.
Does counsel claim that because q
rlan Is under bond he can't steal!
Van Ziie demanded.
Judge Phelan allowed the question
to stand and Rambo answered yes.
That concluded his testimony. and r
A. Lude, paymaster OF plant No. 3 tooB
| the stand.
paymaster Lude's Story.
Lude said he met Rambo and Whit
| ina I'm the bank about 1880 O'CLOCK
III the morning OF Nov. 10, and tha'
they began work on the pay rolls al
once. Hammond came about O'Clock
with Miller Hammond assisted In
sealing some Of the envelopes, and In
verifying some OF the money, with
I.uce's permission. The money for
, plants three and four were put In the
grips about 3 o'clock. and the WORK
OF making up all the pay rolls was
completed about 4 o'clock. Hammond
put the envelopes In the satchel fol-
plant No. 3. while Miller looked after
this detail with the envelopes foI
plant No 4. The witness did not
remember Mr.. Rambo's leaving the
rcor.. After Miller and Hammond had
left. Hammond came back looking fol
his g'Cres
Hammond asked me IL he should
take the grips for plants 3 and 4 up
stairs end said 'alf right
Right after that. Lude. Whiting
ard kan,bo carried the remaining
grip cash tray and the cash machine
upstairs and put them away In the
vault He saw what appeared to be
the two grips from plants three and
four In corner of the vault, but Ham
mond hal already gone
| At this point recess was taken
until Mon ,ay morning
AS the human body Is about seven
eighths water. the average man con
tains about Is gallons.