Ottumwa tri-weekly courier. [volume] (Ottumwa, Iowa) 1903-1916, 1910-03-03
SENATE BILL PROVIDES
FOR BIG BENEFACnONS
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him Senator Dolliver had requested IN
formation from the forest service, ana
that the secretary made no objection.
1--WE discussed at some, length the
right of Senator Dolliver to get the
information from me. AS to the presl-
dents order forbidding subordlnates
to give information to congress, Secre-
tary Wilson said: You and l Will
have no trouble about that order, or
worus to that effect. believed naA
his consent. I described to him the
situation as to the controversy pc
tween the interior department and the
forest service. I told him OF the 1nten-
ton Of our opponents to magnify wnat
had been done by Messrs. Price and
Shaw, and that I thought the only
wise thing to do was to lay our mana
down on the table, admit what we
had done and force the congressional
INQUIRY to the points to which 1t ought
to devote itself.
Convinced by Wilson.
'I was convinced that Secretary
Wilson favored my effort 10 ae1enu
Price and Shaw, although ne dld not
favor my plan Of getting publicity at
the same time the other SIDE ola. l
felt I had, however, secured his per.
mission to write to Senator DolliVer.
The former forester ended MS Ill
rect testimony by saying:
IF had had ten minutes with Pres
ident Taft-if I had been accorded
hearing-it would have been easier
for me to have convinced him that
had been neither direspectful nor
insubordinate, and thus could have
avoided the necessity which he felt OF
relieving me of the public service.
Wilson Passes Lie.
The cross-examination Of Mr.. Pin
chot was delayed until Secretary VII
son. who desired to take the stand at
once, could be heard.
Mr. Vertrees, counsel for Secretary
Ballinger, undertook the direct exam
nation.
"You have heard what Mr.. Pinchot
has said; have you any statement 10
maker he asked the head OF the de-
partment of agriculture.
Some of the things Mr.. Pinchot
has said here-a good many OF them,
began Secretary Wilson, ARE cor
rect. But there are other things that
are not correct The secretary
brought his fist down on the table
with a resounding whack. He then
continued:
"He never got my consent to SEND
that letter to the senate. There are
two things in it that would have made
1t impossible for me to have given my
consent. He attempted to review and
Judge the mental processes Of the
president. He also assumed the author
ity that was mine to discipline othcers
Of my department. Mr.. Pinchot says it
was Jan. 8 that we talked OF this mat
ter. There is no use making point
as to dates. 1t may have been the Srd
or 4th. We did have the talk.
ever since that order by the pres1-
dent it has been the custom when con-
eressmen ask for information from the
officers Of my department, to come to
me and tell me that congressman
wanted to know this or that l have al
ways told them to go ahead and give
the necessary information. Nobody
ever came to me, however-and Mr..
Pinchot says he did-to get general
order to send in anything they pleas
ed. I don't remember ever having re-
fused any officers request to give spe-
cific information as to departmental
work.
Says He Was Deceived.
"Mr. Pinchot didn't tell me he was
going to send letter Of that kind
dealing with the president. He said he
was going to send something to Sena-
tor Dolliver regarding departm entail
matters. If he had said he was going
to pass upon the president and to