New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-02-24
VIViSECTION HIT
HEARING At LILB4NI.
Practice Is Defended by Flea
ner and Others.
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Aihztfv Feb 9s-M-e Diana BeIais- head
q the New York Anti-Tivisection Society;
several other women members OF the SO
cierv. Charles T. Goddard. counsel for the
societr. and Stephen CcleriGge. known as
ore o. the foremost NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. OF
England came here this afternoon 70 make
another attempt &c get faToraote report
81 the BrouEf-N Murray aEti-viv1secuon Dill
Thev .,,ea-ed in he Assembly Chamber
81 iosat hearing before the Senate Edu-
cation and Assembly Judicts-y committees
Dr Simon Flexrer OF the Rockefeller In
stftute: DR.. James Ewing. OF the Cornell
Medical College. O. New York. and presl-
dent o. The American Society for Cancer
Research snd Professor Frederick ). Lee,
% the College of Physicians and Surgeons.
argued against The measure.
The bill puts the practice ot-vivisection
Under the supervision OF tie State Board Of
Regents. provides for The inspection Of lab
orato-;es where zivisection IS conducted by
inspectors appointed by the Regents at the
suggestion OF humane societies. ard for the
licensing OF persons performing such opera
lions. n answer TO the provision IN ref
srence 10 inspections Dr. FlexaeT declared
THAI Ia boratories were now open 10 any
persons qualified 10 attend such operations
snd that II inspectors were appointed they
would undoubtedly either be ignorant Of or
hostile 70 the physicians.
DR. Ewing said that the measure would
prevent demonstration courses IA medical
colleges OF living subjects IF this were
done ne said. 1T would close all the med
heal colleges IN the state. aud students
would either have 10 60 TO other states or
<et their Information second hand
He believed that II they received their
knoTledge Of operations second hand there
would I-e an enormous Increase in the dan
Ser to persons operated on. The bill. he
said would prevent experiments which
have been proved This, he believed, would
7e ir1p-acticabIe. for many things have
been thought 20 be proved and the conclU-
Sicns found 10 he wrong afterward. As
Al illustration, he said that cancer had
>o- Years been thought 10 be non-con1mUni-
czele- but that seven years ago, through
z7visection. Il was found that il could be
transmitted Since this discovery more
HzS been done for the treatment and
srneiiorstion Of cancer than for a thousand
years before. ne said
NJ Coleridge. for the Observation-Disclosures.
asked that every animal vivisected ne sub
iected TO a complete anesthesia. and he
thought that the vivisectionists should as
ton TO the problem satisfactory 10 both
Nov there IS no Law 10 prohibit Vivi-
section said Nj Goddard. but al We
want is that there should be a monopoly
Of the practice and that II he turned over 70
-he medical profession. They, however,
eor-t seem TO appreciate our efforts
II answer - z question by Chairman
Jesse Phillips OF the Assembly Judiciary
.,,--7-7i-+ae RI. f'olerfdge declared that no
matter r II resulted II the saving or hu-
-7an life. the torture Or animals vas not
unsuitable.
Professor Lee. n replying to the aTEu-
merits Of the ants declared that the
r7-z~tfce O. --1visection vas il the names OF
- r-7osr responsible men in the country
Who shhor7ed torture OF cruelty - AMI
--7ais He argued that suffering O.. me
-7z-- ~ the animals now did not exist u
s-v great extent. and held that the won
=e-er,i results in ne saving Of human lives
justified vnat had been done IN V lVlsec--oli
THE lesser animals must give way 70 Inc
l,Fef-e- being he said