The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1910-03-02
SERY SESSION OF
BALLINGER CASE
from Page One

ind 49, as ! witness. Tne latter he
nekaed undesirable. ,, ,h,s ,,,,.,,
- how much longer Mr. PInchot
~ onaIn on the stand. He VIII be
yeplusded bv witnesses called by him
ot, ,Htsssn,sntilte tho specific charges nc
III. rupea.Jn ouainst the secretary OF the
~ inr nl"' Among these. IL was announced.
q L,S ho Officers in the government
., Mmation service .., ,,,d A..
~ penp.f began 10 question MI.
rF,', n the sequence of events fol-
IL 49, 1,,I,, la0? when the former Tor
All esaid he frs; heard OF tho Cunning
w.. claims through forest 9itlciais 10
4vvsfNest. and when he hearo Wiz s ~, ~,
hgis, request looking 10 a postpone
al, ., ,be hearing OF the Cunningham
ba approved Thoroughly,
!. W. 9.ad N there was anything unusual
! Nc Interference Of the rorest service
our p,ncbot read a letter signed by
,ha secretary OF the interior 10
ksnSrato with the forestry service as
A. 'Inis i, forest reserves and 10 ADOPT
1|f servicc's findings as far as possible
H. vi,ncss told Of his Interview WITH
1. ris Al Spokane on August ,. l9os- Ihe
u,etipg was not by app0in.'iyhn.i; hi 't ant
w Pinchot. said he possibly mad met
y, IL onre before, he was not sure
E,s Iot5 TU5 sii his evidence before him
Vtspls, tsps,ncho, i.i said. and spoke OF publishing
~ whole story.
Urged to See President
IL NC. dcoply impressed b. what
WIS said and urged him TO go 10 inc
Ns;dcnf | did this because | Thought
: ,rcsndal would arise. as IL since mas
!! scu' and thought the president ought
,S'ihave an opportunity TO protect n'fn-
VI and his administration.
pjnchot read in evidence the letter
trtroduciion ho gave CLAWS 10 the
Tsideni In this letter he said he had
ItSgn Claws for several years. The
Iet,css explained again that he thopSht
bLlbad met CLAWS once before, at any
ID nc said he had known oil nm LOT
Il ia shaw going 10 Chicago TO as
II CLAWS in the preparation of his
rtemcnt 10 the president. Mr.. Pinchot
al the impression had gone forth that
'SIw had assisted CLAWS In preparing an
Ele published in :. weekly paper.
9E vas not true. the witness declared.
NEsucb an article could not have been
-rontemplation when Shaw was with
J, Eter being in Spokane MIR Pinchot
ne went lur P Vacati off the
thcrn coast ol California with Sen
4 Flint
J rbe witness here read into the evil
Sce the full text of letter written 10
lhn by President Taft from Beverly
$ Member l.. 1909. at the same time he
e Bic TO Secretary Ballingcr. c%opcrating
~ from inc Claws charges
nh this letter the president expressed
ewcd confidence in MIR Pinchot bur
vsItd him not 10 make CLAWS cause his
He referred 10 CLAWS as dtSinsen-
'e1k and as a man who had Let one idea
nsIamay with his Judgment The prcsi-
ID n Expressed regret that Mr.. PiEchot
bot share his confidence and trust in
e T. Piuchot also read his reply 10 the
~ dent, dated November 4. 1909. III
G N he renewed his criticism of Score
~ y BeilnGcr.
Piuchot s,,id he talked with Prcsi-
. ,lTaft about tho Ballinger CLAWS mat
= - Salt Lake last September
~ ~ Pepper here publicly announced
lh Mr.. Pinchot desired To acquiesce in
nficw OF Mr.. Nortrccs That conversa
an't with the president should not be
Ulhled. The witness declared, how
that liz was breaking no seal OF
eesb the president.
y Garheld's S Criticism.
y4r, Pepper read letter written No
''nbcr last 10 President Taft by for
r Secretary or the Interior James II.
I tfcld. iu which he. too. sharply cri,i-
" Mr. Baulugor.
10. The claim thai acted illegally" said
rslGardeid us based entirely upon the
q s,7mental difference between my policy
That of Mir. BalliuGcr felt free
4 The supervisory power and cXecu-
discretion Of q cabinet officer 10 take
re. p IN ih" interest VI the people. so
os is there WIS uo prohibitory provision
,n.-.E Ng. l,allinGer seems 10 take the
, pss..55ou that hc viii no, act. even in tho
pf l.
cinrpc permssory or mandatory proyi-
Im Garfield lct'oII proceeded with a
aay led explanation Of what had been
N IN the matter of power withdra walls
iG his administration.
erc MAS next read Secretary Balm
tcpiy to President Taft regarding
atliarleld and pinchot IettersN In this
w II Mr BaIlnser said:
pe5 am convinced That much OF the ami
asainst mc Is due 10 The fact tina
I'm ne bad To liid SO many "f my prede-
'Ith ers acts were Without warrant Of
Taft to Pinchot.
t9 Presidents letter to Mr.. pmchot.
ma a1''nned bF th" latter today. follows:
nd beverly. Mass. Sept. lG 1a0p
N mny pcar Clifford: inciose herewith
ilso t'or Which ! am about 10 send Ia Sec
o. edlhnrsr inT such use as he. sees
,in. L." ieier"ncc 10 the charge by
ans ps' against Secretary EalImrnI
g., bennett aud schwartz. bavc
F1T',1 ll'H conclusion only after a full
yer, pu"ralion Of Glayls' statement and
-0-r ans"efs 10 il: hut 7 never had =
rus,oa ,k,, based ON stronger conyiQ-
Jaws seeing in Ir q man ,.h,, ,..
nI' one idea and Who has allowed
fnspicous Ia grow tn sn.b Nv -, :" cI
!" altogether disinSeuuous I'm iLa
pv&in vi evidence which he shows 10
,y,. m' attack upon his superiors
nnl ntt,, r1Ic n" reference TO You In
!OWI 'n men "ill. probably be made
,,,,,lu,AN. uAN. advised Mr.. Ballinccr and
nnordinates that / wisi, vn,,,. ,,,,,e. nma
NV6lr W INC matter Iu their apsw.r.
&C a. MS should it become nccos-
sra ln ,.o',,.,y U. unllNely To send the whole
> e'an aware from lhc
hd from Your convcrsoiin !ui, Iel-
Ntlspu dld not give to N,. r,,p 81 Ie Iue
p"Iuencc and trual which q, 1a ,
respect l think you do Az, paI en-
VII ,.ni.,! moJuS'lCr; think You have al
rya,i, int vnIhuSiasm In the cause or
Na,ioII and your impatIcnc. y, ,, ol
:. pps,acles ana difficulties 10 ,nl,,, J. .ns
) ms regard and tllat Claws i'i,,,
- yea You 10 regard as susni.,.l.nl.
rvSI oi lnlnEs which. when wn;,,h,i5
nm "sn' OF an the circumstances un,,
b 60, MIX IN cN:doDtiai for O 4,
isucl serious charge as Tbn, -,
ms p'.n against officials who have hnre. VI
Forthy. - DE entirely
wants Him to Keep Out.
'i@ NC, nus 10 uree upon you thar
4 ;:: %:: 3 $ s. ': ::$ a: f;
k.ne explanation 10" SOM az - iUt ,n