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The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
MAYOR WE|GHs
HIS WORDS NOW
Not So Talkative on Traction Matters
As Campaign Approaches--Turns
Back On Webster Plan.

Mayor Breitmeyer appears TO have
adopted new policy with reference
TO the street car question. Within the
last day or. two ne has become less
keen for the settling of the vexatious
problem before the election in No
vember and has very little to say
about the Webster ordinance, on
which he had decided to pin his faith
in the coming campaign. 1t is also
noticeable that in discussing street
car matters he weighs his words
more than formerly. lest he say some
thing that will still further prejudice
his case with the people.
The eagerness with whic hthe may
or seized upon the suggestion that
the question Of valuation might be
determined In the litigation over the
Hally ordinance was noted In Thurs
days meeting of the franchise COM
mittee. II was on his suggestion that
the committee discussed this phase
of the matter, and the mayor Is anx-
iously awaiting the return OF Corpor-
alton Counsel Hally next week to find
out whether there is any chance OF
getting an early hearing in the Hally
case, now pending In the United
States circuit court OF appeals.
Hally will insist that the question
of valuation is not involved. The d.
u. r. attorneys are equally certain
that 1t is. In any event Mayor Brett
meyer appears to see an opportunity
to secure valuation by this means
without putting the city to extra ex-
pense, which will be a good talking
point in the campaign If the thing
works out.
II begins to look more and more
as though the mayor would have to
go before the peopl ewithout submit
ting a street railway proposition for
their consideration, but after ALL II
is just possible that he would prefer
to have II thmat way. 1t was the
Codd-Hutchins franchise largely that
defeated George Codd. II may be that
the mayor has figured out that his
chances for reelection will be better
II he is not tied to any definite prop
osition, such as the Webster ordin-
ance, In view of the strong municipal
ownership sentiment in Detroit One
thing is certain, the mayor is taking
advice from someone other than At
torney Webster.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
Speeches Show RoOseyeIts
Hostility to Pres. Taft
BY gibson GARDNER.

OMAHA, Sept. 3.-What will Roose-
welt do? That question. which logged
me from Khartum to Osawatomie, Is
answered.
Roosevelt will return and take up
the fight for the policies which were
deserted after he left the presidency.
That was my prediction. That Is
what has happened. Roosevelt is once
more in the fight. He is but pri-
vate citizen. but he is an influential
citizen. His influence has been cast
and will be cast-on the side OF pro-
gress.
His speech at Osawatomie left no
doubt There was hardly any doubt
after what he said at Cheyenne.
His silence 10 quite as eloquent as
anything he says He has not men
toned Taft. The national admins
tration, the lawyer cabinet, the Aid
rich Cannon partnership. the revision
of the tariff upward, the. throwing out
of Pinchot, the dismissal OF the suits
against the beef trust, the efforts to
repeal the Sherman law. the attempts
to undo the Hepburn rate laval
the snrreptitious means employed to
put an end tor what was started dur
ing Roosevelt's years Of oftioe--as to
this he has not said a word.
There is no attack on Taft. There
is no allusion TO mis- record. Such
silence can mean but one thing. II
Taft had struggled against odds, IL he
had shown a willingness to do the
best he could, no one would have been
more prompt to help than the man
who was responsible for his choice.
But, instead, he is silent.
Roosevelt has declared a platform
and a program. His platform Is pro-
gressive in its every plank. His pro-
gram is to fight.
There is work to be done; am
here 10 do my part" This is what he
told farmers and the ranchmen in the
west.
And the rest received him with &C
claim. The little towns and big cities
have turned out their people in the
early morning, under the noon sun,
and In the late hours of a rainy night
they have come bearing torches.
There is no question as to his recep-
ton in the west.
Roosevelt's platform is progressive.
Il is the platform built by LaFollette.
Cummins, Dolliver. Bristow, Murdoch,
Beveridge, Poindexter, Johnson and
all who have helped 10 push this
movement on. He wants the special
interests driven out OF politics.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
DIR. HOLMES WILL HEAD
NEW BUREAU OF MINES
Friends Of clifford Pinchot, James X.
r. Garfield and =. n. Newell is
Appointed BY President Tart.

BEVERLY, Mass, Sept 3.--Presi-
dent Taft last night announced the
appointment OF Joseph Austin
Holmes. of the geological survey. as
director of the new bureau OF mines
at Washington. DR.. Holmes had been
selected for the place some time ago,
but his appointment was held up, 1t
is understood here, on the ground
that Secretary Ballinger, under whose
department the new bureau is placed,
was opposed to him.
Mr.. Holmes is the intimate person
al friend of CLIFFORD Pinchot, James
r. Garfield and +. II. Newell, director
of the reclamation service, all three
of whom sharply criticized Mr.. Bal
linger on the witness stand OF the
Ballinger-Pinchot inquiry.
II was reported here that Mr.. Bal
linger felt DR.. Holmes might have
had a hand in what he termed the
conspiracy" against him. Friends
of DR.. Holmes, while admitting the
latter's close association and friend
ship with Messrs. Pinchot, GARFIELD
and Newell, declared that he had
taken no active part In the campaign
against Mr.. Ballinger.
The Endorsement OF DR.. Holmes Tor
the place was almost unanimous. II
came from the mine operators and
the miners organizations alike. The
purpose OF the new bureau is TO In
vestigate and report on safety ap-
pliances to. prevent the awful waste
of life annually.
The bureau will also make an in
yestigation looking to the improve
ment of methods OF mining.
DR.. Holmes is a native OF South
Carolina. For ten years he was pro-
lessor OF geology and natural his
tory at the University Of North Caro-
lima. and from 1891 to 1904 was state
geologist of North Carolina. A stan
OF engineers and experts will be
transferred with DR.. Holmes from the
geological survey to the bureau OF
mines.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
'SH007lgE0F
IN west T0'jl
UP Prices
Live Stock Expert II stste
Times Says Drouth Al c.
Up Of Ranges for xSxnJ
Principal Csasoo.
Receipts at Largest Western
Yards in July Nearly l00, d
Less Than Year Ago. a

The people Of the Unlton 01
are face TO face with anOfh4r
Increase I'm the cost az ifvfnm. <
The meat harvest u = fn1a9oo ~
faIl-the lone failure among IA
IvIO American crops. ~ & 3 IN
mere ~ genuene sh0rtnHo
i've stock, not one wnHs -
chicago packers for price purpoG
hat = shortage ON the Fangu1 0
the farms. T|
The live stock marketing -
- now more than half over ~
slfuation warrants = pre6aeftao
20 TO 20 per cent less meaf - nvn
able than for the sanne pePnod <~
ine The past i've yeUrs. Ins1 -
that the American h0useYy1fn
expect her butcher to tnegeooo
prices this winter from ~ -
Der. cent and even more e. tno
trust takes its usual ADVANTAGES
The scsrcfty Of live steck ~
market and reports Of p0or ucnn1E
1ty have become no aer10uo tha1 ~
Times asked n. j. Tanner, tho M
sas City live stock expert, Ter
statement Of conditions and cau1or
ny wire. Ii f0llOsvss
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03

operation narrows Still, II 10 certain
that such a rate can be maintained as
will enable the workers to finish the
excavation considerably In advance OF
the date fixed for opening the canal.
Jan. 1, 1915. Indeed. I shall be sur
prised IL the canal cannot be opened
six months or even year in advance
OF the time set.
we now have further duty TO per-
form in connection with IL, and that IL
TO fortify II. We are In honor bound
TO fortify IL ourselves. and only by SO
doing can we effectively guarantee Its
neutrality, and. moreover. effectively
guarantee that It shall not be used
against us.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
We ssEL PASSAGES.
Detroit.

DETROIT. Sept. Sup: Shenandoah.
Chester dSateY 7; Italia. p l;ao; squire. si5;
Alaska (woodl. e:15: Fisher. $50;
Stackhouse, 6:45: Mckinney, Z.
Down: Fairmount. +. w. Gilchrlst.
neon Friday; okngo; 1880 ?. m; jerks.
1: A. r. Stewart, 1:i0; Mckee. Schiller.
Iroquois. 1890. Nevada, 1850; Turret
Court. 2:45; Sheadle. a. Mohawk. AIS;
Mataafa. go; Charles Hebard, Wilkin-
son. $50: NJ. G. Elphicke, 6:10; Hem
lock. e16;i Mt Clemens, GAO; Verona,
Gas; g. w. Elphicke, Z; Huron. 1880:
j. G.. Ford, 1850.
The 500.
sAULT STE MARIE. Mich. Sept: a.
Mason. Black. 1880 p m. Friday; ANA
zonas 1; Algonquin, Bope. Manitoba,
1870; Baker, 2:3o;. Boiand.s: IshgsmLng.
Marigold, $40; Amnsa Stone, Mueller.
Mowatt. 4: Fulton, Morrell 4:30: Path
nnder. sycamore, 5:30; Carbray, oliver.
DO DOW. westmount. Rensselaer,. i p.
m. Friday: Athabasca, Elba.. z:3o; Refs.
8: Caledonia, Ralph Harold. Connolly
BROTHERS. 4: Nelson, Magma. s. Philip
Ninch. $50; Fitch, Maitland. J.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03

Emmy would be just the saucy young
person for the chief role In new
piece he intended producing In Vien-
ma.
Knowing OF Emmy's contracts the
composer of THE Merry Widow" went
insidiously to the English actress and
attempted to coax her to jump to Vi
emma. Emmy, whose whims take no
account of contracts, was beguiled by
Lehar's descriptions OF the delights
of Vienna and was about to follow him
when Edwardes learned OF his danger
and rushed to intervene. His roars
SO frightened Emmy that she changed
her mind about Vienna.
But Edwardes and Lehar don't cor
respond any more.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03

LONDON, Sept. emmy Wehler'
the fair idol of the London theater.
going population, the original Dollar
Princess, the bone OF contention In
the recent feud between Geo. Ed
wardes, the Gaiety theater producer,
and Franz Lehar, the Viennese COM
poser. is going to America
The play In which she will make
her American debut has not been de-
cided upon, but she will be under the
Frohman management.
She 1t was who broke the long
friendship that existed between Ed
wardes and Lehar. Edwardes had
Emmy tied to London with the iron
bonds of a contract Lehar thought
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
EIGHTH INNING.
WATSON FAINTS ON STAGE =
AS AUDIENCE JEERS HIM
He Begins q Fiery Attack on Hoke
Smith, But 10 HowIed Down by
Latter's Admirers.

ATLANTA, Ca, Sept. 3.-Thomas
Watson was howled down last night
at the auditorium by an audience of
5000 people when he began an attack
on Ex-Governor Hoke Smith. Watson
was SO overcome by the hostile DEM
onstration that he tainted and was
carried from the platform. After be-
ing taken into the air he soon revived
and seemed none the worse for his
experience.
Watson had widely advertised that
he would speak here on political con-
licly declared that he believed an at
tempt would be made to assasinate
him by Congressman Hardwick. AS
a result OF sensational advertising an
immense crowd was drawn TO the au-
ditorium. Watson, after declaring the
world Is going hellward' began to
attack preachers, alleging they sup
ported Congressman Hardwick last
week, whom Watson called a gam
bier and drunkard" because he
(Watson) had denounced the graft
in foreign missions" This caused a
burst of cheering for Hardwick and
Watson began to allude TO himself as
a martyr.
The crowd laughed at this and
Watson then began an attack on OK
Governor Hoke Smith He never COM
pleted the attack for the crowd be-
gan to cry "Hoke, Hoke, Hoke," and
kept II up. Watson seemed dazed for
a minute and then began to scream
something. which was drowned by the
cries for "Hoke."
Watson collapsed and was caught as
he fell by those near him. He was
quickly carried from the stage into
the open air where he revived.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
A CryinQ Evil.

Baseball is the crying evil OF the
cities, declares Louisville minister.
To those people who do not know
what crying evil is, let is be said
that IL is baseball such as the Maps
play.-Clcyeland Press.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
oyster eay Has 2t,soe Population,

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3.-Oyster
Bay, the home OF ex-President Roose-
welt, has a population of 2l.s02,
against 1884 In 1900, an increase OF
SASS. These figures are for, the town
OF Oyster Bay. IN which Sea Clin Ia
a considerable village.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03

Paul Dohrman. OF the ID. u. R. -.
day morning. swore out wnrr11l
charging Leu Baldwin. conductu<>
with embezzling $50 from the CO.
pany. Mr.. Dohrman says that ~
couple OF spoilers rode with Bal6wlI
and observed that where he he4
passengers. he turned In only q
fares.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03

Sob Printing Done Rishs Times
Prfstfsg Co., IS John R-st Call Main
1tsa. or City s3ss. lst
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
THIRD INNING

CHICAGO-Lange flied to Cobb. Nc
Connell was out, Bush to Il. Jones. Lore
died, Delehanty to Il. Jones. NO RUN.
DETROIT-D. Jones was retired
LANCE to Tapnehill. Zeider boote'
an easy fly from Cobb, Delehanty go
ing to second. Crawford forced Cobb
Tannchill to Zeider. Delehanty taking
third Crawford stole second. Nor
iarty flied to Zwilling. NO RUN.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
FOURTH INNING.

CHICAGO-Meloan beat out hit
that bounced high to Il. Jones. Dough-
erty fouled to I. Jones. Mclean died
stealing. Schmidt to Delehanty. Zeider
walked. Tsnnehill fouled TO 4. Jones'
NO RUN.
DETROIT-Bush was called out on
strikes Il. Jones died. Lord to Tame
hill Schmidt bounced a single over
Lange's head. Mullin fouled to Tame
hill NO RUN.
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1910-09-03
FIFTH INNING.

cHICAGO-Lord's grounder to Bush
was so slow II vent fosfHssanats. Me;
making second Dougherty WIS out.
T. Jones TO Mullin, Lord taking third.
Zeider singled just out OF Delehanty's
reach, scoring Lord. Zeider stole sec
ond. Tannehill popped to Mullin. ONE
RUN.
CHICAGO-Zwilling out, Delehanty
10 T. Jones. Payne singled TO right.
Lange fouled to Moriarty. Moriarty
threw out Mcconnell NO RUN.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26
Outlook Unfavorable.

Boston. Nav 2l. The Commercial
Bulletin says of the wool market
The outlook in the wool market il
not favorable. for goods are not sell
ing satisfactorily and it is questioned
whether lightweight fabrics opening
during the next two months will
move in sufficient volume to start up
the worsted industry Apparently
tina bottom has been reached on wool
values and they are on an equitable
basis, but consumers will not operate
other than in conservative way /,
except in isolated instances.
= = About SOC 900 pounds Of Oregon
staple were sold this week at Gee to
CSC, secured. and Wyoming staple sold
at 60 to 64c. Ohio and Michigan
quarter-bloods and -fourths
changed hands fairly vel at 29c and
30c. respectively.
With these exceptions. business Is
limited to unimportant quantities and
no one seems to know Just what wool
is really worth today.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26

A car load of Deering mowers
just received at Gillian & Bisbees.
Mr.. aud Mrs. Jay Devin re-
turned Saturday evening from Eu-
gene.
Mrs. ]. T. Knappenburg was the
guest of Mr.. and Mrs. Dell Ward,
yesterday.
r f Wigelsworth, Of Butter
creek, was business visitor the
first Of the week.
Mrs. Alex. Thompson and son
Ralph, of Portland, are visiting
friends in the city.
Banker Mahoney is in Grant
county this week looking after
business interests.
The Heppner Dancing club will
give a dance tomorrow evening in
honor of the high school.
Heppner won from lone, last
Sunday at the depot grounds in
the best ball game of the season.
The grand stand was we'll filled
and much enthusiasm was mani
tested. The score was 10 to 6.
A return game will be played at
lone next Sunday.
T. J. Mahoney, carhier of the
First National Bank, of Heppnrr,
is gaining considerable prominence
throughout the state as the coming
man for the chair in the State
Treasurers Office. In Salem and
other places he is looked upon as
about the strongest man the Re-
publicans can name. Mr.. MahoneY
would be a very competent man
ior the place, however, he has not
made an announcement of his can
didacy.
CARD OF THANKS Il wish to thank |
the many friends oil Heppner for their
kindness to my daughter during her sad
illness and funeral Mrs. Josephine
Ohilders, 7l5 Center ST., Salem, Or.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26
The Week News
local and Personal Happenings
in and About the City.

Glasses properly ntted at P. o.
Borg's. II.
Joe Devipe was up from Lex
ington, Tuesday.
Highest cash price paid for hide
pelts and furs. Phil Cohn.
J W Beymer came in from Mon
ument the first of the week.
Peter Brenner, of Eight Mile
was business visitor the first of
the week.
Gillian & Bisbee has just re.
ceived a car load of buggies,
hacks, etc.
A M Phelps and Clyde Brock
were incoming passengers Satur-
day evening.
The Light & Water Company is
repairing mains on May street by
putting in new joints of pipe.
Marquardsen's Depar I m 10 mt
Store will close on Memorial day
in the forenoon from 10 to IL.
Rev. and Mrs Walter Airheart
returned Saturday evening from
Arlington where they had been at
tending Sunday school Conven-
tion.
Memorial services will be held
at the Heppner cemetery, Monday,
May 80. at 10 o'clock under the
auspices of the G. A. r. For
those not able to walk to the
cemetery, conveyance will be fur
nished.
John Cochran of lone, one day
this week brought in 102 coyote
scalps, receiving sl53 bounty there
for. The scalps were principally
from pups taken from deus down
in the Columbia river sand belt.
Mr. Cochran was 25 days in catch
ing the varmints.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26

Isolated Trsct-Public Land Sale.
Department of the Interior, U. S. Land
Office at LaGranue, Oregon, April
20, 1910.
Notice is hereby given that. as d.
rected by the Commissioner OF the Gen.
eral Land Office. under provisions OF
Act of Congress approved June %,
1906, ga Stats, 517,) We will offer at
public sale, to the highest bidder, at
10 O'Clock a. m, on the 9th dav of
July 1910, at this office, the following
described land: The NW4 NW4, NWK
SWA and Sc SWl4 section 10, 7. $
Sontn, Range % East, willamette Me-
ridien. serial No. 06903.
Any persons claiming adversely the
lands are advised to
file their claims. or objections, on or be-
fore the day above designated for sale.
+ c. BRAMWELL, Register.
COLON r. EBERHARD. Receiver.
May l2-June Is
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26
The nluh Cost of LIvInE.

Increases the price OF many neceOsi.
ties without improving the quality. Fo-
ley's Honey and Tar maintains it's high
standard OF excellence and its great
curative qualities without any increase
in cost. II 10 the best remedy for
coughs, colds Group, whoopiDR cough
and all ailments Of the throat, chest and
luDRs. The genuine is in q yellow
package. Refnse substitutes, Druggists
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26

Commander Julius A. Pratt Post
No. 143 Dept. HI, q. A. II.
Mr.. Isaac Cook, Commander of above
Post, Kewanee, Ill.,. writes: ''For a
long time l was bothered with back
ache and pains across the kidneys.
About two months ago started taking
Foley's Kidney Pills and soon saw they
were doing just as claimed. l kept on
taking them and now am free from
backache, and the painful bladder mis-
cry is all gone. l like Foley Kidney
Pills 80 we'll that have told many Of
my friends and comrades about them
and shall recommend them at every op.
portunity. All druggists.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26
For more Than Three Decades

Foley's Honey ani Tar has been
household favorite for all ailmencs of
the throat, chest and lungs. For in
fants and children it IS best and safest
as it contains no opiates and no harm
fuI drugs. None genuine but Foleys
Honey and Tar In the yellow package.
Refuse substitutes. All druggists.
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26

For news and Opinions-the Oregonian
The editorial page OF the Weekly Ore.
gonIan gives q broad troatmant t@ q wide
eango Of aub1ootA
Heppner gazette. [volume] (Heppner, Morrow County, Or.) 1892-1912, 1910-05-26

Mt. vernon a9t
Springs
They are located in the beauti-
full John Day Valley, 216 miles
north OF Mt. Vernon, and 121a
miles west of Canyon City in
Grant County, Oregon. The e'e-
vation is 200 feet and the cli-
mate is mild throughout the year.
The springs which furnish water
for the bath and swimming pool
flow 25 900 gallons per day Of
highly mineralized hot water OF a
temperature in the different
springs OF 100 to 122 degrees F.
These springs are without rival or
competition for the reason that
you can get the water Just the
proper temperature for bathing
without artificial heating or d.
lu'ing with cold water and there
by destroying the medicinal prop.
critics. These springs have but
recently come to public notice.
They have just been fitted up
for the comfort and benefit Of the
invalid and those seeking recrea.
tion.
Nature was the chemist who
compounded the water which
cures, and in her laboratory deep
ia the mysteries Of the earth che
prepared these curative waters;
and those suffering from rhsumA-
tism. gout, skin dissasS. kidney
or Bladder trouble OF any ca
taTrhal condition Of the stomach
nnd almost instant relief and in
most cases permanent cures in
from four to eight weeks.
Our charges are reasonable.
Come when you will, winter or
summer; we are always open and
ready to welcome you.
For further information address
H. MURPHY Prop.
Mt. Vernon
Oregon
Pocahontas star herald., 1910-12-16
A Toast to Laughter

Tim Murphey, at a supper in his
honor recently, was called on to re-
spond to a toast, daughter" which
be did in these terms:
"Here's to laughter! the sunshine
of the soul, the happiness of the
heart, the echo of innocence, the
treasure of the humble, the wealth
of the poor, the bead on the cup of
pleasure, it dispels detection, ban
ishes blues aud mangles melancholy.
for it's the foe of woe, the destroy
er Of depression, the enemy of
grief. 1t is what kings envy peas
ants, plutocrats envy the poor, the
guilty envy the innocent; it's the
the sheen on the silver of smiles,
the ripple on the water of delight,
the CLINT on tie gold of gladness;
without it humor would be dumb,
wit would wither, dimples would
disappear and smiles would shriv-
el, for its the glow of clean con-
cience, the voice of a pure soul,
the birth cry Of mirth, the swan
song of sadness, Laughter"
Pocahontas star herald., 1910-12-16
SAVED FROM AWFUL DEATH

How an appalling calmity in bis
family was prevented is told by A.
d. Mcdonald, of Fayetteville, n.
C. Il. f. ID. No. s. "My sister
had consumption," he writes, "she
was very thin and pale, had no APP
petite and seemed to grow weaker
ever day, as all remedies failed,
till Or. Kings New Discovery was
tried, and so completely cured her,
that she has not been troubled with
a cough since. Its the best medi'
cine ! euer saw or heard of. For
coughs, colds, lagrippe, asthma,
Group, hemorrhage, all bronchial
troubles, it has no equal, SOC, 81 90.
Trial bottle free Guaranteed by
w. II. Skinner.