The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1910-03-23
n.r,- Mr.. Ho,chki.s asLsd. wa. IL in a

who was present at the conversAtiOnp'
NO one but he and l.
What was YOUR Conversation
He told me that Timothy sullivan
would kill that bill for soon
what did you do?-
when I learned that Timothy Suli-
van wanted siO.OOO said I'd draw zap the
Telegram answer for MIR. Brown
What did you saw IN the telegram
Il lust wrote answered Mr.. seward.
"Alr. Seward sAys Won can 90 20 he'll
Was 10 sentP-
Il bslisvs u was
Mr.. HotchLias asked Mr. seward pri-
vntely later and told the reporters that
The Brown in the case was not Warden
W. n. Brown. who drew the dead line
&C tho first execution by electricity
On the witness stand In tho afternoon
Mr.. Hoochkiss asked Mr.. seward:
you are quite certain this Mr. SuIli-
van was Big Tim?
4 knew OF no other was the reply.
NE was aAaiduously active on that bill =
He sAid that he had never talked with
Mr.. Sullivan.
NoN-PAKrIsAN BODY % cAvALRY
Mr.. Hotchkiss then asked Mr. seward
what he knew about the Black Horse
Cavalry aud the witness said among
other things that il was a non partisan
body There WIS never a time he
said. when u the insurance men had
taken the time and trouble the Black
Horse Cavalry could not have been routed
by tho honest members 81 the I.egi-la-
ture.
You routed them
Yes. I did
Mr. seward said that In 1901 he had
cent Charles e. Nadal. the paid counsel
Of the company. 70 Albany 60 help light
the measures that were then pending
I told the insurance men aud the com
pany officials he said, that they had
novices in charge % the work at Albany.
All the companies were being .har4ssed
IN the LEGISLATURES all over the country.
told them We ought to stop II. NV plan
WaR TO make the fight in the open ana
above board. | bslieve in honest meth
DDS The other way. the witness ON
tinued. was ~ employ lobbyists
= do not know how much truth there
10 IN the stories about legislative crooked
moss One hears talk - money being
aDsnt at Albany Whether it all gOes
% the leEisllt 1rs done kn w. he said
The witness whom Mr. Hp'rhkiss
characterized ~ thu dean of your pro-
fsssion.- talked furths' about honest
msthods Mr. HDtchk!ss GSkad him Il
hs h.d any idecs in reg.-d - str king
down tho so-calleI -s'rik- b lis
1T would h@lp- sad Mr. S"wC II. 10
laws wee passed restrs'ning companies
from entering into Combin atoms To main
tain rate, There ought 10 bs OI"n COM
petition Tho rates would he lower and
in the end il would 10 better for the COM
pAnics End the poliCyholde.s
The establishment of p hill COMMITTEES
might prevent lobbying. the witness
Thought la II yer ie EFtheFed $50
bills concsrnin fire. INSURANCE. entered
In the various LEGISLATIVE" bod ~ through
out the country
gEAT THE sullivan AMFSDNEyr
The b u - limit the business of casualty
compa1 - cAnc up aga ~ us.can.
known Mr. Seward =. d. A~ tho sullivan
ball and wAS a. aneldnslt Ia the eUist-
ing insurance Law The objectionable
law wsnt through the Assembly com
msttee finally Mr. seward rscolIs cted
Then IL went To the Assembly and was
paesed the-e Daniel McEwsn. who
won't over ths bill though IL was vicious
ano crusl' IN" ihsural'" men iought
the bill in tn" senate. aud upon en-" threat
az Gov Flower ~ veto he whole cod. IL
a.. ,h,,,,,,,,..t,l,. ,..,,,-.,. -. -, !
~ y"
was o"'"s'"u moro. "a" Nss III VA"
year OF insurance law cooshoation. which. !
Mr. Hotchkiss said. was iss2
GOLDBERG SEEING MS
Mr. Seward con Guided his testimony hy :
uaantiontn0 A. senblvman Goldb.ry a,
1..M-Io 1900 -, =, ~. -. - -. /
r"" '"A. W nv N'A''c !''-' @>
the nsht against the sullivan amendment.
when he was IN Albany, Goldberg came
to him and asked Mr.. Seward N there
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MN ne sAu y nav 'he'~ was money
being given out and hat he might a. we'll /
have his share Mr. Seward didn't re- /
member how ne Answsrsd C;olclh-rR
Jac0b Goldberg was an AssenblyTnSn |
from Buffalo in isa2
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