The Pensacola journal. (Pensacola, Fla.) 1898-1985, 1910-01-29
BALLINGER'S ACTS,
IN LAND OFFICE
TOLD BY CLAWS
Continued from First Page.)

Wickersham were mistaken when
they reached the stated conclusion
that Mr.. Ballinger's participation in
the matter had been merely formal
The letter was read from Special
Agent H. L. Jones calling attention
to the alleged fraudulent character
of the Alaskan claims.
That letter was written before
CLAWS came into the matter in any
way" questioned Senator Nelson.
Yes replied Mr.. Brandeis.
Then you don't claim CLAWS
originally called attention to these
claims"
mo. In addition to Jones's report
there had been one from Special
Agent Love-"
Didn't Love recommend the Cum
ningham claims for clear-listing
asked Representative Madison.
1T didn't amount to a recommends
ton exactly" replied the counsel
Here Seantor Sutherland interject.
ed:
1T seems to me we are getting a
good deal more testimony out of
counsel than out of the witness"
EXAMINATION RESUMED.
Thereupon the examination of Mr..
CLAWS was resumed. He told of a
visit to Washington in December,
1907, when he told Mr.. Schwartz that
people in Seattle were saying there
would be no further investigation of
the claims in Alaska and the patents
would be granted.
II said there was great danger of
another big scandal equal to that in
Wyoming and Colorado, where the in
vestigation of the coal land cases had
been suppressed" declared CLAWS.
who suppressed those investiga-
tions?" demanded Senator Payntcr
(DemocraD. 1t was testified at Salt
Lake that former Commissioner
Richards did-Mr. Ballinger had no
connection with it in any way"
"Why were people in Seattle saying
they would get their patents?" asked
Mr.. James (Democrat).
Il don't know" replied CLAWS. 81
know of no reason they may have
had"
These statements, CLAWS said, were
made by several of the claimants in
the Hunt group.
After his interview with Mr..
Schwartz. CLAWS was conducted to
MIR. BaIlinger's office and as a result
of his visit to Washington and the
story he told, was Immediately placed
in charge of all the Alaska cases.
What did you say to Commissioner
BaIlinger?"
L told him l thought We could can
eel all the. Alaska claims; that a
lot of prominent people had formed a
pool and that the evidence would
prove it,
What did Mr.. Ballinger say 20
your"
WERE BALLINGER's FRIENDS.
He said a number of the claim.
ants were friends and former bust
ness associates OF his. and that there
had been lot of talk that they would
get their patents.
Now. CLAWS he said to me, when
YOU get back TO Seattle | want you to
let it be publicly known that you have
started this investigation, and that /
want it to be thorough. No matter
who it hurts. you are to get right af-
ter them, whether they are friends of
mine or not.
Did he mention names of his
friends"
Yes, he spoke of H. C. Henry
and c. J. Smith, both of whom were
in the Cunningham group"
Nidf - Sdtu lie "SHt ud-h 10 WOTh,
happy. and satisfied.
In calling attention TO certain OF
the evidence he wished to introduce,
Mr.. Brandeis commented rather free
ly upon it.
Let me suggest that you avoid
your. argument on the effect of evil
dence, said Senator Nelson, sharply.
Just state the evidence you desire
to submit, without arguing about it.
Your argument is not Objectionable.
but it delays the proceedings
r. BTandeis read further from the
printed record 10 show that the first
order 10 clear-list the Cunningham
claims was included by the mineral
division, December %. 1907-just II
days after the CLAWS interview with
Commissioner Ballinger. The order,
however, was held up by direction of
Schwartz. One order for clear-list-
ing so far as the mineral division
was concerned was issued December
f, 1907. prior to Glavis's visit TO
Washington. but this, too, was held
up by MIR Schwartz.
WITNESSES SUBPOENAED.
The following witnesses were today
subpoenade to appear before the com
mittee at the request Of the "prosecu-
tom" Horace T. Jones. special agent
land office, Portland. Ore: Arthur r.
Bowman, Cheyenne, Wyo., Andrew
Kennedy, Seattle, Washn.. Henry VI.
Hoyt, attorney-general Of Porto Rico: