The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1910-05-06

the committees time with irreleva Mt
questions"
Messrs. James and Graham took
sharp issue with Mr.. DENLY and a long
argument followed.
Mr.. Brandeis retored that Vertrees
had closely questioned Mr.. CLAWS when
he was on the stand -four whole days
being taken up with his cross exami-
nation"
Mr.. Vertrees spent all the time he
wanted on 'one question? p - said Mr..
Brandeis. IT value as highly as any
body the time of this committee and of
myself What L want is fair play.
This witness has with extraordinary
swiftness made any number of state
ments-not only led by Mr.. Vertrees,
but dragged in by Mr.. Vertrees."
Vertrees Grows Indignant.
Mr.. Vertrees took exception to this
remark, rising in his place on the other
ment was known to be deliberately
false His examination, he said, had
not been according to any rules, be-
cause the original investigation was
not conducted according to rules.
Il have stood here a long time, con-
tinued Mr.. Vertrees, land seen witness
after witness, offended by the insolence
of this cross Once OR
twice 1 have felt called on to intro
duce an objection. But the time has
come when the committee should pro-
tect the gentleman from such insolent
imputations I do protest against it.
and 1 want to make myself plain on the
question"
Mr.. Brandeis continued his ques-
tions concerning that visit to Beverly
in September, 1909. Mr.. Ballinger ar
rived thera on the sixth and met the
president on the golf links. Mr.. Bran
deis wanted to know whether the pur-
pose of that visit was solely in con-
nection with the Glavis-Pinchot
charges or whether it was also on
other matters.
THAT was substantially the matter
which took me to Beverly" the wit
ness replied.
Mr.. Brandeis closely questioned the
witness as to the purpose Of his visit
to Beverly. Mr.. Ballinger replying
that he declined to repeat his CONVEX
sation with the president.
Questioned as to the papers that
Mr.. Lawler, assistant attorney general
in the interior department, had taken
to Beverly, Mr.. Ballinger said he had
some memoranda on the controversy,
but he did not know exactly what they
were. Senator Nelson suggested Mr..
Lawler would be the proper person to
call to learn what he had carried to
Beverly. but Mr.. Brandeis said he
would just then prefer going on with
his examination of the secretary.
CLAWS at any time had an opportunity
to see the answers he and his as
sistants had prepared for the president
in answer to the CLAWS charges Mr..
Ballinger did not answer the question
directly and the attorney had the
stenographer read it over &c him twice.
BalIinger Is Insulted.
THAT question implies an insult,
that we made a selection to suit our
convenience" replied the secretary
hotly. Il have said heretofore that
we sent to the president all the facts
and withheld nothing. Gentlemen of
the committee, 1 appeal to you for
protection from the insolence of this
me. He is here by sufferance of the
committee and not by any other right.
I asked for this investigation and want
a searching one. But I think I am
entitled to be free from the imputa
ton the gentleman puts in his ques
tons"
Judge Madison. Republican insur-
gent thought it was obvious that
CLAWS had not had an opportunity to
see the answers, to which the wit
ness assented, and the incident was
passed over without Mr. Brandeis
making any reply to Mr.. Ballinger's
Outburst. Another argument occurred
few minutes later when Senator Root
objected to the following question: GAS
a lawyer and a judge covering a long
that the question of the truth of the
CLAWS charges could not be deter
mined when you had the opportunity
of answering him, and he. CLAWS. had
no opportunity to know if you put in
all the facts?"