Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1910-06-15
ORGANIC ACT DEBATE
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departmental official the question
as to whether he shall expend any
portion of the appropriations In that
Territory. II is a question of wheth-
er Congress is going to retain within
its hands and In its power the ques
ton of the part of the federal appro-
priations that shall be spent there.
We should be as liberal to them as
we are to the continental territory,
more liberal to them. because they
are distant and can not always make
their wants as fully appreciated as
other portions of the country, but
Hawaii will fare better in the long
run trusting to Congress than trust
ing to the will and pleasure of a de-
partmental officer.
Mr.. Cocks of New YORK. Why do
you make a distinction between Ha-
wall. Arizona, and New Mexico? You
make a distinction between Hawaii
and Arizona or New Mexico?
Mr.. Mondell. II had time |
could explain fully the difference.
You can not divide between the vari
Gus States and Territories of our
continental domain, because the con
ditions are essentially the same as
between one of our Territories in the
Southwest, for instance, and the ad
jacent States. You can not divide
them. But conditions are dissimilar
In these widely separated Territories
They need appropriations and large
ones for purposes for which appro-
priations may not be needed at all
within our continental confines. OF
they may need no portion OF an ap
preparation made for our continental
territory And II this provision goes
out, the matter stands as II is at
present. and II In making an appro.
priation, not for those general ser
vices which apply wherever the hag
floats, but for those appropriat
which apply only to our continental
territory unless specifically applied
elsewhere. then the needs OF Hawaii
can be met and provided for. and
Congress will know how much we
are providing for that Territory, and
will know that It Is spent In that
Territory. and not leave II. as said
a moment ago. to the within and pleas
ure of department Official; and
eventually Hawaii will receive a
larger amount of expenditure under
the present practise than she will
ever receive at the pleasure of fed.
eral official under the provisions sug-
gested.
Mr.. Cocks OF New York. what Is
the reason that you want TO know
any more about what Hawaii gets
than what Arizona gets. or any other
Territory gets?
Mr.. Mondell. There are several
reasons.
Mr.. Cocks of New York. Tell US
one. Sc.
Mr.. Mondell. Conditions are dis
similar there. How much do you
propose to spend for the gauging OF
streams In Hawaii? For instance.
would II not be well for Congress to
know? I think II you could do It.
II would be well to further searegate
all OF our appropriations today. The
gentleman Is member of commit
tee that is constantly endeavoring to
segregate appropriations, and a com
mittee which makes appropriations
which do not apply to Hawaii ex-
cept as the committee specifically APP
plies them to Hawaii. and generally
indicates the amount of be spent
therein. In my opinion, that Is much
the best practise from the standpoint
of economy and from the standpoint
of justice ADD good administration.
Mr.. Cocks OF New York. want
ed to call the gentleman's attention
TO the fact that We speak OF Guam
and OF Alaska and of the different
experiment stations we have. In this
case you pick out one particular ter
ritory and want to know why.
Mr.. Mondell. You may make APP
preparations in the agricultural ap
lproprietion bill which do not apply
TO Hawaii at all.
Mr. Cocks of New York. And some
do not apply to Wyoming at all.
Mr.. Mondell They can not be
spent In Hawaii because of the fact
you do not provide for It..
Mr.. Cocks OF New York. II could
be spent in Hawaii under the appro
priation bill Lots OF the lump sums
under the Bureau OF Plant Industry
can be spent in Hawaii.
Mr.. Mondell. You have made such
a provision. That is the only reason
why they apply there. II that wat
not 80, you would not need this pro-
vision.
Now, Mr.. Chairman. | oppose the
proposition Of the committee not be-
cause | love Hawaii less. but because
love her more. | reiterate that she
will fare better In the long run II
her needs are specifically provided for
by Congress.
The Clerk read as follows:
BE II enacted, etc, That sec
ton 8 OF an act entitled IAN