New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1910-10-20

FX-SHERIFF ALFRED 7. HCBLHtf
advised that the money he paid He
men+ioned to me the name Of that Re
n,,bIfcan leader If IT were mentioned to
me might recognize il. At this mo-
mont 7 don't recall exactly what it was.
He said. as I recall, that Senator Nc
/ C7rren had advised against the pay
nent Of this sum Of 5000 to this Re
publican leader. and this he considered.
he said. the trick that McCarren played
that really caused the passage Of the
bill"
Elder Recalls Other Names
| After q whispered conversation with
Judge Bruce Mr.. Elder remembered the
names Of two of the other men who were
said to he present at the Delmonico
meeting
can you recall now other persons
| than YOU have mentioned who were said
10 be present at the DeimonicO meet
] ire7~ Judge Bruce asked after the whis-
pering.
Yes said Mr.. Elder. Gene Wood
WAS the name Of one that he men
TONED"
/ There was more whispering. and Mt
Bruce asked: Was there any other
name you can remember"
YES" said Elder. He said Hitchcock
vas there"
Then the further identification Of
Hitchcock was baked By Assemblyrnan
Toombs.
- l., -,-,.,-+a5 r-i4I, +be Conev ISL
and Jockey Club?" Judge Bruce asked
He didn't designate that" Elder re
n1ied. II asked him what Hitchcock It
was. and he said that
What was his first name?" Assembly
man Toombs interrupted TO ask There
are two or three Hitchcocks.
! I didn't ask him. 7 don't know,
Elder replied.
The recollection Of the name Of L'Horn-
-,adie,, came after the newspaper mems
/ alleged share in the graft had been men
toned
Did he say what the name was or
the leader in the vacant Senate dis
trfct?" Judge Bruce asked
7 don't recall it. bur might recoe-
nize the name" Elder said.
There was more whispering ana MI
Elder said: THE name he mentioned
was I..Hommedieu."
Hyde's Alleged Subscription.
,.et+ing hack to the meeting st Del
ucntco's. Judge Bruce tried to fix the
tina whether il was before or after the
-o,-,,lar session Of the legislature but
Mr. Elder said that Gardner did not say,
mo-, did he state the amount contributed
by the various members Of the Metropoi-
itsn Turf Association. But Gardner had
told about Hyde's alleged subscription
for Engeman. Mr. Elder said, and he re-
heated the story. along with the tale OF
how Gardner had 10 give up part oil MS
own share Of the fund.
He also said that Charles H, Hyde.
MI Elder said-"no, he said Charley
Hvde-at the meeting at Delmonico's-
had made a subscription for William
Engeman- He said Engemau failed to
M his suhscription, and Hyde. he said,
mt in a bill for personal expenses some
v,av so as to cover that subscription
He said that he had an arrangement
with HYDE by which he was to receive
= certain amount for doing this work in
Albany with this money; but he said
that HYDE did not pay him all that he
had agreed 70 pay. and that made II nee
essarz- as he said for me to take $4,000
o,,, If the amount which 1 did receive
in order to make good on two agree
ments which ! had made because they
we're agreements on which l would not
eunl,, He added that $1,000 of that
money went to the president Of the Sen
ate"
Assenblvman Foley at once rushed TO
the defence of ex-Ljeutenant Governor
Chanler.
president pro tenn, YOU mean" said
Mr. Foley
.t4e said that. what l tell you, he said
the President Of the Senate" replied
Mr. Elder.
i,ndsrstood He Meant Raines,
..Dd Won understand him to mean Sen
o,or Raines and not Governor CHAMBER
MI Foley asked.
wei that is what ! understood, but
give YOU the language he used Mr..
Elder replied .- -s.u
because you kno" 'oNel nor nan
Tor voted against the motion SAID Mr..
4 Foley. r-,a., ,.
yery insistent that Foelker got $1,000
to vote against the bill and then voted
/ for il. 49,,
- mentioned to him the name OF otto
roelker. senator Foelker said Mr.
Elder I said ! have heard a good
deal about that. what about that? ami
he s.id ,bat Foelker got $1,000. said
had heard that he had got $l'."r' and
then also heard that he had got moth
ing. He repeated thai Foelker got Slo,-