The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1909-05-22
SLEUTH KNOWS
OF PHONOGRAPH
AT End OF LINE.
Makes Shrewd Reply TO Bride
Proposal When CalhOund At
torney Rings Up
Witness Again Exposes Desper-
ate Efforts of Defense to
Keep Him Silent

gested 10 William VI. Abbott that
change would have to be made. Abbott
answered that before authorizing any
change he would have TO talk with Cal
noun and see what he said about il.
Referring further to the subject of this
automobile espionage. Iieney asked
Helms il he had ever talked with Attor-
nev Stanley Moore OF Calhoun coun-
sci concerning the matter.
Yes" answered the witness,
talked TO him on one occasion in the
presence Of Mr.. Abbott. He said TO me,
You performed the best work you ever
did for the United Railroads in follow
Ing that Burns. There are
ladies present. and am not mentioning
Mr.. Moore's exact words"
Heney turned to another line Of in
auiry and il was not until he had con-
GUIDED his examination of the witness
that the charge made against Stanley
Moore by Helms was reverted TO. Then
Moore himself asked permission to
question the witness.
Mr. Helms" he demanded angrily,
don't YOU know that you are telling
pure. unadulterated. absolute lie when
Won say that You had conversation
with me about following Burns?"
I do not, Mr.. Moore" retorted the
witness. 4 repeat my statement 1
did have a conversation with you and
You said TO me exactly the words have
uttered I am not here to perjure my
self. but 10 tell the truth, and if you
Latch me IN perjury YOU may go after
me"
you are perjuring yourself right
now" shouted Moore
Prove il then. I'm not.
Don't YOU know. cried Moore. his
face palng, that when you say 1 had
<.-Tf,
ing Burns or that I ever told you you
were doing good work in following him
you are lying like a dog?"
GIVES LIE TO MOORE
4 know that you are stating an un-
truth right now" answered Helms.
Then. springing TO his feet. advancing
10 the edge of the witness platform and
shaking his finger al Moore. he con-
tinued: i don't lie like a dog. 1 am
repeating that conversation word for
word and ! dare you 10 prove other
wise"
This witness had asserted that there
were two people present at this con-
versstiOn besides himself" declared
Heney, addressing the court. Perjury
can be proved by two witnesses and If
Mr. Helms has stated anything that is
false Mr.. Moore and Mr.. Abbott can
prosecute him for perjury"
Heney leaned over and spoke to Dis
trict Attorney LangdOn, who was sit
s. ting at his left Then he Strengthened
no suddenly and continued his chal-
lenge-
Mr.. Langdon is present" he said,
and I am authorized by him TO state
that II Mr. Moore and Mr.. Abbott wish
TO prosecute this witness the services
Of the district attorneys Office are at
their disposal Moreover. Mr. Earl
Rogers may take complete charge Of
such a prosecution
God help US from ever having to
have any help from the district attor-
news office of San Francisco, inter-
jected the elder Moore
AI0ore's remark brought the incident
70 an end and no further charges
against Helms were voiced by any of
the defendants attorneys. It was not
the last accusation. however. made by
Helms. He said that at the time he
first left the employment of the United
Railroads on September 1. 1908, William
NJ Abbott and Luther Brown met him
as he was boarding a steamer TO leave
for TIE north and the former asked him
TO tell him all he knew about the CAL
lagher dynamiting case.
CALLED on PHONE
Turning TO another subject Of in
quiry, Heney asked the witness to
tell OF the various attempts made by
agents OF the defense TO reach him
after he arrived in san Francisco 10
days ago IN company with Policeman
Charles Con- Of the district attorney s
staff. and again some prominent names
figured IN the exposures. Helms said
that Attorney Hugh ONeill, who is en-
ploved in the Offices OF Campbell Met
son & Drew, the legal advisers of for
rner Mayor Schmitz. met him at the
ferry and asked him if he needed coun-
sell Helms answered in the negative
and OXEN then asked him 10 call
him I'D on the telephone, giving him
the number of Campbell, Nelson &
Drew's Offices.
Helms called up as requested from
the home OF Charles Gon, and Golf re-
naiHed by his side at the telephone
while he was talking. Other converse
lions followed-sll of them on the same
day. May ] l.
Did you talk with William II. Net
SOM inquired Heney.
y did
How long after talking with O'Neill
was it until you talked with Nelson? p
Immediately. ! told him to call Mr..
AIetson 10 the phone.
Had you ever met Mr.. Metson be-
fore. or Mr.. Edgar Zook, from whom
YOU received that telegram while com
ing into san Francisco on the train?"
No answered Helms. 4 had not
Heney did not pursue the inquiry
further along this line. but Rogers
turned to II suddenly as the climax of
his recrossexa mination with a ques-
ton that was evidently intended to
take the witness of his feet. without
warning. Rogers put the inquiry in his
most dramatic manner
KEPT CLEAR OF TRAP
DO you know. Mr. Helms he cried
pointing his finger at the witness.
THAT when you had your conversation
with Mr. OXEN and Mr.. Metson there
was a photograph hitched on to the
telephone taking your conversation by
the aid OF God Almighty and the laws
Of nature2
II did" reported Helms without hest
fstion. and that is why I didn't fall
into your trap.
What was this Conversation de-
manded Heney.
II was the question that the prose-
euxion had been endeavoring to reach
All through the course Of the direct
and redirect examination. but il had
not been put because the state of the
record would have made an answer in