The Washington times., 1909-01-27
Seen and Heard
around Capital
GARDNER vs.. HINDS.

To the uuinitiated it would appear
that there is a never-euding contest in
the H]ds6 between Asher Kinds, the
parliamentarian, who guides Speaker
Cannon out OF troubled waters, and
Representative Augustus T. Gardner, OF
Massachusetts. Periodically Mr.. Card
ner arises and In his peculiar New
England voice argues long and vigOr-
Ousiy ON o. technicality involving the
rules of the House. Sometimes he is
sustained mdkOmetImes he is not The
exact proIorfon has never been de-
tC.m.ncd.
When the ruling is against him MT,
Gardner frequently waits until Kinds
has moment 90 spare from the
Speakers elbow and then buttOu-hOles
him and asks How about it2' That is
not the precise BDst0uese language in
duIgeI iu. bHt Il sums the situation up.
"Weu, The situation was thus and so,
and so we ruled against yOu," responds
Nj Kinds, and q prolonged converse
tIon follows.
Now even AIr Kinds viii acknowledge
that lir Gardner ls one of the best
students of parliamentary procedure OF
the floor Of the House and 90 convince
him that hc is wrong is considerable o.
am undertaking, especially I'm view of
the fac. that Mr. Gardner refuses TO
miss tie slightest detail. The Ccuver-
sati0u usually ends up I'm this .ashion:
well, Kinds, ] can't admit even now
that YOU are right Come up 10 tho
house 10 uHuc. ana we'll sLIaigEt"n il
out" Nj. IEIIda goes, the polu- 20 all
.nteuts ANA purposes is Strengthened
out, and the next time Mr.. GarcH=r
makes point of order he is certain
20 conform to Kinds.
10 not mTeguoutIy happens that even
then uc O.. ruled against The situation
required it. Again Mr.. Hiuds IS button
l0Ied, but ue knows what ls coming so
Ho says. Gardner come up to my
house to dinner tonight. and I'll eN-
plain why the ruling did NOT apply IN
fHIe case" MT Gardner goes, but ne
la never sure of what his friends ruling
Will 5e the next time The situation
changes according 20 the nature OF the
proposition against "IliHh nc voices
bis protests. Mr. Kinds can find in
mis- own Volumes prcCcIents on both
When Representative WiIletL Of New
York was delivering himself OF his par
IIguIaUy b'tter attack upon President
ou the Republican side sought 10 have
him suuefglsur but lu each instance Jley
were Unsuccessful some one sent for
MT Gardner and put If up 10 him. Mr..
Gardner IeaI0usly guards the Preslden,
lu the House as does senator LNdEe IN
fHe Senate. lie was not Wiling 10 lave
Mr. Kinds tell him al dinner about now
He got bon bad. $50 ue protected himself
bg FIRST approaching the parliameutarlau5
and the two evolved the scheme OF pick
Ing Uut "a particular piece of language
Particularly Objectionable. and il was
the sentence rejecting ON the Presi-
dents attitude toward Rear Admiral
SruIcv that put uu end 10 Wllletts
speech. Mr.. Kinds naturally. could not
rule against himself.
Those who wished the speech aX-
plunged from the records pr0uted by
Nh GardueE's action Mr. Hughes sent
"a resolution tC the desk for this pur-
pose. but the Democrats picked it 10
pieces and MI hughes sent Up distress
signals. Mr. Huds quietly picked up "A
pad, wrote upon it a. resolution iu the
proper form and sent # 90 Nlr. Hughes
bv messenger. The gentleman from
West Virginia put his name at the mead
of il and it went through like a shct
As "a result Mr. Willett viii not have the
pleasure of reading his speech IN the
permanent records OF the House,