The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1909-03-24
Says Congressman Payne in
Continuing Speech
THE PRESENT TARIFF ONLY
Benefits the Packing Trust, He Declares
Sharp Discussion in the House.
Southwest Opposes Taking
OF the Duty.

was the head-liner in the House yes
terday. The somewhat novel spectacle
was presented of that ex-ardent stand
patter, Serene Payne, advocating the re.
moval OF the duty ON this product lie
maintained that the farmers never did
benefit any now from the tariff on
hides, and that the present duty has
simply benefited the great packing
trust, which now threatens TO extend
its monopoly TO the entire tanning in
dustry Of the country.
Chairman Payne resumed his expla.
nation of the new tariff bill, and the
Massachusetts idea" was soon under
lively discussion. That free hides win
be opposed when the bill is taken up
for amendment is apparent, but how
strong Is the opposition cannot be fore
told. The informal debate against il
yesterday centered among congressman
from the great raising sections of the
Middle West and Southwest.
Mr. Payne entered into an explanation
of why the committee did not place
shoes as well as leather on the free
list. He said the committee have made
even longer reduction relatively on
leather and shoes than on hides. The
duty had been fixed TO give protection
TO the common workingman.
Representative Gaines of West Vir-
ginia, a member Of the ways and
means committee, said the shoe manu-
lacturers OF Massachusetts,, who had told
the committee that II they could get
free hides they would be willing to
have shoes put on the free list, wanted
free shoes because that would mean
cheaper wages and less Independent !
"Not Revision Upward"
No sooner had Mr.. Payne began
Than he was piled with questions. He
was asked by Mr.. Moore Of Pennsyl- |
gania if there would be an opportuni- /
Ly to offer amendments to the bill in |
he House, COR" Mr.. Moore added, |
must we look elsewhere meaning
HE Senate
THAT" replied Mr.. Payne, ''is en-
EireIy in the judgment of the House
Ind In its control"
Al he was seeking to do, he said, was
10 finish his speech, and to him it seem
ID an impossible task.
In his replies to questions Mr. Payne
aas decidedly aggressive. He became
highly indignant when Mr.. Garrett of /
Tennessee inquired II, taking the bill as
whole, ii was not revision upward.
THE gentleman has no right to say
he Republican leader sharply an
bounced. 1T Is not fair to say that
ls an honorable man.
He declared that, taken as O whole,
be revision was downward, but as to
uxuries 1t was, he said, revision up
mrd, and ought 10 be. He said that
asch a remark as that made By AIR.
Jarrett was not fair to me, to the com
aittee, nor to the country"
Disclaiming any improper motive,
ar, Garrett said he wanted to know
be real fact
"You asked the question by way OF
Mr.. Payne retorted, with
ONE warmth. "and You meant to in
ert that remark In the body Of my
peech.'
An instant later Mr.. Payne had a
harp colloquy with Mr.. Garner of
'exas, who asked for an explanation
egarding free hides.
Texas For Free Shoes.
II win get to hides" said Mr.. Payne,
oily. II know it Is local issue with
he gentleman" he said, land" be added
nth an unconscious pun, II know he
I'LL try to hide himself behind rev
nue. Id order to meet the demands of
hose Democrats in his district who
re elamoring for duty on hides"
"The Democrats in my district" quick
! retorted MIR. Garner, "are also clam
ring for free leather, free harness and
rec Shoes"
Continuing his explanation, Mfr. Payne
aid that the cut in the, metal SEIZED
lie would not destroy the tin plate in
ustry in the United States
Mr.. Payne became somewhat irritat-
l when Mr. Cnpron Of Rhode Island (
Interrupted his explanation of the file
,hedule. The Rhode Island member i
sserted that Mr.. Payne was not stat
lg the whole case, aand should not
lake it appear as If he was speaking i
! attorney for the importers y
MFR. Moore Of Pennsylvania got into
he discussion, and answering both him
nd Mr.. Capron, Mr.. Payne declared
rat the revision OF the steel file sched-
10 would not destroy that industry in
le United States.
"And now come to hides Mr.. Payne
lid with sigh of relief. He made
sneral attack on the so-called hide
'ust, and said the big tours" packers a
the hide industry in the
nited States. t
''Do you think interrupted Mr.. q
eeder OF Kansas, the big four would c
, generous enough to turn this tariff {
yer TO the consumer HI
"0h," responded Mr.. Payne, 1thay t
ould not turn anything over to any Is
sdy unless Obliged TO" 1t
When, later, hides were again the r
pic Of discussion, Mr. Garner asked Ii
r. Payne If he thought the removal Iii
the duty on hides was rendering the L
rmers a real benefit. d
q do" replied Mr.. Payne with en- f
laSis IA
at is good thing Mr.. Garner re- y
arked, shat the gentleman does not
I've to run for Congress in some dis
lets I know of, because he would I
I'VE a pretty hard time Of it, IT
Mf. Payne replied that farmers were 9
NEST. intelligent and fair people and
lould be dealt with frankly. aDansf 3