The Washington times., 1909-02-07
Little Prospect of Their Get
ting Together on Foot
ball Date.
WANT PRINCETON
AS AN OPPONENT
Red and Blue Students Welcome
Informal Proposals TO Resume
Relations.

PHILADELPHIA, Feb. THE Penn
syivania and Carlisle Indian manage
ment are deadlocIzed over the date for
next years football game between these
two institutions
Glenn Warner, CarlisIe's coach, asked
Penn for a later date on the schedule
and this the Red and Blue was very
willing to grant, suggesting October 80.
Warner replied saying that hs preferred
November j and suggesting that Michi-
gan DO placed earlier UsE Penn's sched-
ule 70 make room for the Redskins
He was told that this was impossible
as the Michigan contract was already
signed for the 18th. Warner then said
that ne would not take any date earlier
than November 8 and If Penn would not
give the Indians this date, the game
could not be arranged at all
Penn is unwilling to give the Indians
November 8 as this would be just one
week before the Michigan game. The
indians always play such a hard game
that penn slumps afterward anc the
lied and Blue management wants 10
put ar easier team just before Michigan
so thu. the Wolverines may not catch
them at their weakest time. The foot
pail committee has offered Warner Oc-
tober 30 and told him that II he would
not take this date the game would
surely be of
Williams or Minds.
John II. Minds. chairman OF PENIS
football committee, said yesterday, in
regard to his reported election 10 the
football rules committee to succeed
John g. Bell: II have not been chosen
10 represent Pennsylvania on the foot
ball rules committee 1t is true that
Mr.. Bell has resigned, but the choice
OF his successor lies with the Penusyl-
vania football committee, and they have
taken no action as yet"
When Mr. Bell resigned some time
Hf TF h
etc association recommended that the
football committee chose Mr.. Minds as
his successor. There Is a strong ele-
ment on the committee favorable to DR..
Carl $. Williams for the position how
ever. The choice lies between these
two men, with the chances favOrins
Dr.. Williams His policy during the
last few years has been to keen out OF
all official positions in PENNSYLVANIA
football affairs, but it IS thought that
he would accept this position If It were
offered him
Either Mr.. Minds or DIT. Williams
would make ar excellent representative,
for both have kept intimately in touch
with the development OF the new game
and appreciate its possibilities as do
few men at present. Both favor the
reduction OF points for field coal from
to ., and this change IN the rules VIII
be actively advocated.
Penn After Princeton.
There has at last been an appreciable
step toward the drawing together Of
Princeton and Pennsylvania, which is
sure ultimately TO result Ia an annual
football game between these two insti-
tutiOns. a man high IN authority ia
Pennsylvania football has written to the
Princeton management suggesting the
scheduling Of a game between the fresh
man teams of these two colleges. Tt is
an informal feeler toward closer rela-
tions in the future. If the freshman
game IS arranged, the varsity viii be
inevitable
The entire student body OF both col
legps and the vast majority OF the
alumni favor the game. The few who
haTbor bitter feelings as a result OF the
former break are gradually going out
of power. For several years the time
has been almost ripe for the re51ven-
alton OF this game but both colleges
have been backward in making the sug-
gestiOn. fearing a snub from the other
Now that Princeton has dropped Cor
nell and failed to schedule q game with
the Tigers have games with
only secCud-class teams, except Yale.
Penn viii probably not meet Michigan
after 1869, so the natural thing would be
the arrangement Of game between
Penn and Princeton. The arrangement
OF the freshman game would be a pre-
hminary step and pave the way for the
varsity contest.