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The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-11-22
BONANZA MINE, NO
TOWNSHIP BOOM
Wells Family Content to Grind
Out Fortune With Conf
mon Mortar.

The strike at Burgess, Just across the
mountains from Mt Whitney station, on
the marrow gauge above keeler, which
was first announced in the Owens Val
ley Herald of last week, is typical of
inyO, rich beyond compare and as quiet
as a church wedding Twenty-thousand-
dollar rock has brought many men to
Burgess seeking leases from 4. W Wells
the owner of The bonanza, but no leases
are being let, no townsite has been laid
cut no respectable camp has even been
located til ere vet the family possessing
the wonderful find are quietly mOrtaring
out & fortune for themselves. Last week.
stated Mrs Wells to Attorney A. H.
Swallow. at Independence. they took out
with their crude apparatus $500 in two
hours. And they have done even better
than thar. They are taking out enough
by this means 10 pay all Of their eX-
pcnses, ali of their obligations, and are
laying away q snug nest egg The
Wells were ranchers before they began
prospecting Tor gold.
Mrs. Wells further stated that they
were down lbs feet on their ledge, have
three feet Of ore which averages $3.50,
and have prepared fifteen tons for snip
mnt They are not prepared to let leases,
and while many have been there to see
the bonanza, the fact that no leases are
being let has kept the camp small There
is no rush. no boom, nothing except gold.
and that is what the Wells want. They
want lao boom. They want gold And
that they seem TO have in abundance.
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IRON AND STEEL,

New York. Nov 21.-The principal fea-
lures of international pig iron last week
were sales of speculative Alabama iron
at a decline of 80 cents to 81 a ton,
and large transactions in basic iron at
concessions in eastern Pennsylvania.
Northern iron also sold at concessions
for this years shipment. Aggregate sales
of foundry iron in the eastern territory
were 25.O00 to 10000 tons. Sales of basic
aggregated $4,000 tons at $3.50 to $40 de-
livered
Car orders have been heavy. aggre-
eating 1906 Wire products continue ac-
tive and heavy specifications for sheet
and tin plate have been induced by the
recent advance of 10 cents a box on
plates and 81 to 50 a ton on sheets.
Structural orders aggregated about 25,000
tons
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Notice.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT
at a meeting tf the board of directors
OF the GordOnt Mining and Milling COM
pany, held at Salt Lake City, Utah, on
Friday the l21t day of November, 1903,
an assessment of two dollars per thou
sand shares \ las levied on the capital
stock of said deportation, issued and out
standing, payable in two installments.
namely: One-hElf of said assessment paw
able on or before the 10Th day Of De-
cembeT. 1868, IND the remaining portion
of said assess fent payable on or before
the 18th day d January, 1910, to A s.
Fowler. secretfr of said corporation az
his office, Nd rs South Main street
Salt Lake Citt Utah. Any stock upon
which said assessment or any portion
thereof shall Itemain unpaid on the 18th
day of Januai, 1910. viii become delin-
duent and, uni less payment is made be-
fore. will be advertised for sale and 50
many shares oE each parcel of such stock
as may be nee lssary win be sold on SAT-
urday the 4th Eday Of February. 1910 at
3 o'clock p. mi of said day at the office
of the secretly, No. 2lS South Main
street. Salt Lake City, Utah. to pay the
said assessment, costs Of advertising and
expeL Sc of sslt A. s. FOWLER
Secretary Of tie said Gordon Mining and
Milling COMPANY.
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KNIGHTS WORK IN
DUCK CREEK CAMP
Is Extending Tunnel Started
by SmeIter to Tap Lead
Veins.

While little noise is being made by the
owners of lead claims In MctSiil mining
district and while no apparent effort IS
being made to attract attention at this
time to the big lead prospects in that
district, work is going ahead steadily on
a number of properties, and the shoWlngs
that are being uncovered and developed
are quite satisfactory, says the Ely tx
The Frederick tunnel, owned by ]. f
Brim and Uncle" Jesse Knight, is now
in $50 feet, and it is believed to be near
ing ore bodies. This tunnel was driven
by the Steptoe Valley Smelling and Min
ing company, and was destined to pierce
the high line cliffs back Of the smeltef
plant to afford a channel for the waters
of Duck creek, and deliver them to the
smelter plant
1t was originally planned to drive the
tunnel entirely through the mountain.
work being carried on from each side
The tunnel was driven 400 feet and was
then abandoned by the smeiter manage
ment, who turned It over to the owners
of the mining claims through which II
was being driven at no cost to them. Ihe
only stipulation made. it is understood
was that the tunnel should be continued
in a straight line, and that the proper
tiOns be maintained throughout its entire
length.
Gains Depth Rapidly.
Since taking the tunnel from the smell
ter people, the owners of the property
feet in length. The tunnel gains one foot
of depth with every foot of length. 1t
is equipped with a track and car and with
an automatic ventilatOr.
The ground until this time has been
exceedingly hard to work. and the miners
have been unable to gain more than one
foot for each shift 1t is now assuming
a different character, the lime breaking
I'm larger blocks. and more deeply with
each round. until better time is being
made.
The development of big lead mine so
close to the SteptOe valley smelling plant
and so near the railroad, with such SPLEEN
did facilities for transportation to the
railroad. VIII cause a boom in the lead
industry in the county and will assure a
great output of the ores to the shelters
at Salt Lake valley. The further de
velOpI1ent OF the district will. it is be
lieved result eventually in the establish
ment of lead stack. either by the Step
toe Valley plant, or by an independent
group of smeltermen.
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RYAN BIG MAN IN
COPPER INDUSTRY
Will Be at Head of Copper
Consolidation Is Predic-
ton in Boston.

Boston, Nov. 21.-In all that is talk
ing place among the copper interests
looking to the formulation of plans
whereby the price of the metal may
be improved and reckless and unprofit-
able competition among selling inter-
ests eliminated, the name of John d.
Ryan is most frequently heard. There
are few bigger" men-as Wall street
reckons bigness-in the copper bust
ness today, and those who Inow him
best state that his big achievements
are yet to be recorded.
His friends point out that a certain
prophetic Significance attaches to the
achievements of John D, Rockefeller
in oil may be partially duplicated at
least by John D. Ryan in copper
1t cannot be denied that abundant
success has followed almost every en-
terprise with which Mr.. Ryans name
has been identified. Take. for in
stance, International Smelling. That
company was organized only a year
ago and the stock placed among a
limited few at 500 per share. Today
it is $50 bid, and that price would be
paid by one party for 1000 shares
Brokers who are seeking offerings of
the stock tell us that they can find
only twenty shares offered and the Of
privately declared the stock to be
worth 5000 a share today cit is earning
Is per cent? and his immediate asso-
ciates have not a share to sell.
Then there is the National Copper
bank. That institution was organized
about two years ago by Mr.. Ryan and
his copper associates, the stock being
put on the market at sos a share.
The institution is now to amalgamate
with the Mechanics bank of New York.
Of S60000,000. National Copper bank
stock can be sold today for 1920, and
the holder of 100 shares has the priv
ileSe of subscribing for fifty shares
of the new bank at 5000 share.
Would Save Millions.
Mr.. Ryan has been chosen TO sue
coed Henry II. Rogers a. the president
of the Amalgamated Copper company,
and he is today working day and night
TO devise, perfect and carry into execu-
ton some safe and sane plan which
Will save millions to the producers of
copper and conserve the resources of
this raw material so essential to mod
ern civilization.
When the last chapter concerning all
that is now taking place in important
copper circles in New York is written
it will be found that the Inspiration of
whatever scheme is finally adopted had
its beginnings in the efforts of Mr..
Ryan to remedy present cOnditions,
and If a new copper consolidation is
formed it is safe to predict that Mr..
Ryan will be its executive head.
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s5N7O5.ONl


Totals SZJS, oyg tfUD S9VDs fV0vVJ
1t will be observed from the above that
the stocks of all the copper companies.
with the exception of Amalgamated and
Greene-C ananea, have a market valuation
in excess of par valuation. Should the
various companies consolidate on basis
of present valuation. the merged COM
pany would have a capital stock close to
half a billion dollars. The Anaconda Cop
per company is mentioned in the above
list. for the reason that while il is re-
garded as a subsidiary of the Amalga-
mated the latter owns only 50 or so per
cent Of the capital stock of $4,000 600.
The consolidated company, it is believed,
will make bid for certain other mines,
including Ray Consolidated and other
porphyry mines.
The statement was made today that
negotiations had passed the preliminary
stage and that no difficulty would be eX-
perienced in making an exchange of
stocks for those of the consolidated com
pany.
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CRIPPLE CREEK MAKES
GOOD GOLD PRODUCTION

Colorado Springs. Nov. 1.-THE October
gold output of the Cripple Creek district
was $3.50 tons of ore, with 4 total bull
Ion value OF 81 POI $50. The average value
of all ores treated was S203Q.
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Annual

1t should not be inferred that the above
properties will be the only companies to
join in the combination. There is a pos
sibility that the Phelps-DOdge properties,
Clark properties and the porphyry proper
ties will also be included. However, no
definite statement in this respect can be
made at this time.
The plan involves the taking over of the
International Smelling and Refining com
pany, well as the United Metals Sell
ing company. The International Smelt-
ing and Refining company owns the
largest refinery of its kind in the world.
and refines close to 350,000.000 pounds of
copper a year.
The American Smelling and Refining
company last year handled approximately
100000 pounds of copper. and as a re-
suit of the increased production of the
Nevada Consolidated. Utah Copper. Cum
berland Ely and other mines, it viii han
die a much larger amount in the current
year.
The combined capitalization of the
subsidiary companies of the consolidation.
providing only the Amalgamated, Cole
Ryan and Guggenheim properties are in
cluded, would be approximately S29S,S9l 400,
with a present market valuation of $500,
705, 900.
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StockhoIders' Meetinu.

THE ANNUAL. MEETING OF THE
Utah Ideal Mining company viii be
held al D. m. Monday evening. Dec
6, 1909, at 125 East First South street
WILL REEFS, Secretary.
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To Reduce Operating Costs.

Development work at the Amalgamated
mines is expected TO still further re-
duce operating costs. The Nevada Con-
solidated, early next year, will be turning
out in the neighborhood of 70, 600 900 pounds
year, as a cost estimated at ~ cents
a pound. The Utah Copper company is
producing 60,0c0O00 pounds a year at a
cost of close to cents a pound.
If a merger of the three groups in ques-
ton is effected, the following prominent
mines would be included;
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IN THE District COURT. PRO-
bate division, lin and for Salt Lake cOun-
ty, Utah II the matter of the estate OK
Adele CarneyI deceased. Nctice-The Pc
titlon of W. / Barrette, administrator OF
the estate ol Adele Carney deceased,
praying for he distribution OF the resi-
due Of said e1ate TO the persons entitled,
has been set for hearing on Friday, the
Sd day Of DIrember. A d. 1903, at
o'clock D. Mat the county court house,
in the court loom Of said court, in salt
Lake City. SIlt Lake county, Utah.
Witness thl clerk OF said court with
the seal therjof affixed, this 18th day OF
November Al d. 1909
MARGARET ZANE WITCHER.
(SeaD Clerk.
BY L. p Ptlusr. Deputy Clerk.
Henderson. Pierce. CritchlOw & Bar
rette, AttorneIs for Petitioner.
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Half Billion Combined Value.

The following table gives the possible
subsidiary companies of the combination,
their outstanding capitalization, par value
and market valuation:
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IN THE 1ISTRICT COURT, PRO
bate division, l. and for Salt Lake cOuu-
ty. State of Utah. In the matter Of the
estate of LydE Ann Clayton Thatcher,
deceased.-NOtEe
The petition b Clayton Irwin Thatcher.
praying for tie issuance TO himself OF
letters of adm fistratiOn in the estate OF
lydia Ann Clayton Thatcher. deceased,
has been set ftr hearing on Friday, the
Sd day Of Defender, A. D. 1909, at ,
o'clock D. m, II the county court house,
in the court dom of said court, in Salt
Lake City, Sail Lake county, Utah.
Witness the llerk of said court, with
The seal theref affixed, this 18th day OF
November. A. =. 1859.
MARGARET ZANE WITCHER,
(SeaD Clerk.
BY L. p. PalEler. Deputy Clerk.
Tanner & Timer, Attorneys for Petit
toner.
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IN THE DISTRICT COURT, PRO
bate division, H. and for Salt Lake coun-
ty, State of Utah In the matter OF the
estate Of Martaret Green, deceassd--NO-
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Excess copper over that of Amalga-
mated and COle-Ryan properties.
The combination would take IN what are
known as the lOW-cOst producers, par
ticularly Utah Copper and Nevada Con
sOlidated. The latter recently absorbed
the Cumberland
According TO one interest, the cost of
producing copper by the combination
would not exceed cents a pound. Many
OF the Cole-Ryan properties can produce
copper in the neighbOrhood of 3 cents
a pound and the Boston & Montana s
wide margin. As a matter of fact the
latter company recently produced the
metal as low as 8 cents a pound.
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I
Witness the Elerk Of said court, with
the seal thereos affixed, this 18th day Of
November, A. +. 1909.
MARGA8ET ZANE WETCHER.
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" afsOn, - - y dJ IIIE IUT IIIE ST
Element OF ~ account of said Elias c.
Evans. admin Il traitor. and for the dstri-
button of the tresidue of SAID estate TO
the persons eititIed, and for discharge
of administrattr. has been set for hear
ing on Fridayt the Sd day Of December.
A D. 1899, al o'clock p. M, at the
county court htuse in the court room Of
said court in Bait Lake City, Salt Lake
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Expert Kodak FlnishIna.
Thanksaivina Day Rates

SHIPPERS, commercial photographers.
Isl South Main st; second floor.
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IN THE DISTRICT COURT. PRO-
/ hate division. II and for Salt Lake coun-
/ tv. Utah In de matter of the estate OF
Elizabeth Evats Watson, deceased.-No-
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IN THE DISTRICT COURT, PRO
bate division, IN and for Salt Lake coun-
tv state of Utah. In the matter Of the
estate of MARI Judge, deceased.-Notice.
The petition tf J Frank Judge, praying
for the issuarle TO himself Of letters OF
administration in the estate OF Mary
Judge. deceased has been set for hearing
on Friday, thel Sd day Of December, A. D.
1899 at 2 O'Clock D. m, at the county
court house. l. the court room Of said
court. in Salt lake City, Salt Lake coun-|
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ELY CENTRAL TO PROVE
MALIGNEO TERRITORY

Ely. New, Nov. 21-A report originating
at Copper Flat is that the Ely Central
Copper company began the exploration
with churn drills yesterday of that por-
ton of the estate adjoining the big pit
of the Nevada Consolidated. which in its
recent attack on Ely Central the New
York Engineering and Mining Journal de-
clared to be without value.
SAMUEL r. NEEL & CO.,
STOCK BROKERS,
525 Newhouse. Bell $500; Res. 1135-Y.
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By L. 2. Palter, Deputy Clerk
Tanner & Thinner, attorneys for petit
toner.
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Witness the Eclerk Of said court, with
[ the seal thereof affixed, this sth day o.
/ NovpFnber A =. 1893
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Via Oregon Short Line, November "a
and %. Limit, November 29. City
Ticket Office. 201 Main street.
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PROBATE land GUARDIANSHIP
NOTICES.

siensTs for ITtheT infoTmatiOn)
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The petitionl of William Green praying
for the issuaIce TO himself of letters OF
administration in the estate OF Margaret
Green, deceased, has been set for hear
ing on FRIDAY the Sd day of December
A. d. 1903. at I o'clock p. m, at the coun-
ty court housl in the court room OF said
court in Salt lake City, Salt Lake coun-
y. Utah.
Witness theI clerk Of said court, with
the seal therlf affixed, this 18th day OF
NOvember, AID. 1903
MARGAHET ZANE WITCHER,
(SeaD Clerk.
BY L. p. Palmer, Deputy Clerk.
G.. H. BaCku|an, Attorney for Petitioner.
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to the personst entitled, mas Deen set Tor
hearing on friday, the 18th day Of No
veplber. A D. F1909. at o'clock p. m, al
the county eOu l. house. in the court room
of SAID courtE in Salt Lake City, Salt
Lake county, Etah-
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The petition b. Elias c. Evans, admin
istratoT of the ESTATE of Elizabeth Evans
TEro4eo,, 1~oaoIad nravfup for the soft
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MARGA6ET ZANE WITCHER, I
(GooT Clerk
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COPPER COMBINE
ASSUMING FORM
Market Value of Securities
Said to Be Assured Is Half
Billion.

According to well-informed interests,
negotiations looking toward a merger of
many of the leading copper properties are
progressing satisfactorily. So far there
mas been no hitch, and a basis of ex-
cnange in the case OF a number of prop
critics has been virtually agreed upon,
says the Wall Street Journal.
Eliminating all Otner groups, with the
exception OF AmalgamaIed Copper, the
Cole-Ryan properties and the Gugs enhelm
interests, the consolidated company would
control over I5U,O0U,UOO POUNDS OF copper
annually as fOtIOvyS-
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for hearing 81 Friday, the Sd day of De-
cember, A. II 1903. at 2 o'clock p. M,
at the county, court house, in the court
room Of saidt court. in Salt Lake City,
| Salt Lake COUNTY, Utah.
Witness thei clerk of said court, with
/ the seal thereof affixed, this 18th day OF
/ November, AID. 1909.
MARGA8ET ZANE WITCHER,
(Caan clerk
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THE PRODUCE MARKET.

NEW YORK, Sept. 2S.-Flour--Re-
ceipts, 47.14s; steady with trading quiet.
Wheat-Receipts, 1886, 800. Influenced
by higher cables, strength of outside
markets and somewhat lighter North
west receipts wheat was firm and "
cents higher this morning. December,
107 5-16m107A.
Rye-Dull; No. 2 Western. 1914, nomi-
nal I. o. b. New York.
Corn-Receipts. 33,25o.
Realistically.
Pork-Strong; short clear. 23.00M25. so.
Lard-Easy; middle West, 12.9Om13. 90.
Sugar-Raw firm; fair refining, 3.73k;
centrifugal SO test. 4.23k; molasses
sugar, 3.4S1k. Refined steady: crushed,
5.S5; powdered. 5.25; graduated, SIS.
Petroleum-Steady; refined. all ports,
8.2Om8s25.
CoHee-Quiet; No. I Rio. ~: No.
Santos, sSAm9.
Enthusiastically; New Orleans, 2s
G42.
Butter-Firm, unchanged; receipts,
2O.41S.
Cheese-Steady; receipts, 1856; State,
full cream, common to good 11K@14%.
Eggs-Firm, unchanged; receipts.
rs. 755.
Poultry-Alive Arm; Western chickens
is; fowls IS; turkeys Is. Dressed dull;
Western chickens 14@19; fowls 1Shq16.
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CLOSES
STRONG AFTER
ACTIVE SESSION
Steel, at Record Price, Carries
General List Upward-Union
Pacific Gains 3 Points.

NEW YORK. Sept. 2s.-Prlces Of
stocks started briskly upward today
on lively opening dealings. There We're
running sales OF 5000 shares of United
States Steel at S7A and S79s. and a
subsequent sale at S7h. all new record
prices, compared with S6h last night.
Union Pacific, Southern Pacific, ana
dian Pacific. Reading and Amalga-
mated Copper rose !. and st. Paul.
Erie and Atchison. large fractions. Yir-
ginia Iron declined l.
II a. m.-Bullish sentiment was en-
couraged by the continuation of the
upward movement in u. S. Steel, which
touched 8S, and the strength shown by
the best known railroad stocks. There
WAS strong backing for the Erie
stocks which were l%iquidated yester-
day. Republic Steel advanced "a,
Union Pacific q American Cotton OIL
and Vulcan DEFINING Ia and Read
ing Ia.
Noon-The aggressive advances of U.
S. Steel, Union Pacific, Southern Pa
cific, Atchison and Reading made a
strong sustaining force for the whole
n arket. The rise in Atchison. and
Reading reached 9b, u. S. Steel 2 and
Wabash preferred. Southern Pacific, the
Fries and New York Central III to Ia.
Pacific Coast second preferred advanced
Az and the New Haven convertible
Sc az. Bonds were firm.
1 p. m.&Atchison became the feature
of the market and pulled the general
list up a fraction higher. That stock
was bid up steadily untll 1t reached
1923, a gain of 37s. Amalgamated Cop
per suddenly revived and was run up
to IL above yesterdays closing. At
lantic Coast Linz jumped Az, New
Haven gained 2 points, st. Paul, Rock
Island preferred and Great Northern
Ore Certificates IA and st. Louis
Southwestern ia.
9 p. 1.-THE rise seemed to run itself
out for the time being when the mar
ket became quite dull. Prices, how
ever, did not show any signs of yield
ing. Eastern railroad stocks were the
feature of the hours business. New
York Central and Westinghouse Elec-
trio hardened 2h, Louisville and Nash
vile ~ and Baltimore and Ohio and
Pennsylvania 2.
3 p. m.-The market closed strong
and active. Union Pacific rose more
than 3 points to above POI and then
fell back about a point. II. s. Steel
moved UP to 1895. and the general list
hardened again. Kansas City South
ern, Iowa Central preferred and Vir-
ginia- Carolina Chemical declined /.
Last prices were nearly the best.