The Detroit times., 1909-12-08


and taken for granted so that the fg-
ures are not claimed 10 be absolutely
exact. They are good basis. how
ever. for the negotiations which are
20 come.
That the committee has not com
pletcd its work with the handing over
OF the reports collated by it's suh-com'
mittces 10 be transmitted by the
mayor 10 tho common council. wns
the assurance which the mayor gave
the committee in his talk 10 the men,
bers Monday night.
Work Just Begun.
"Tour work has Just begun he
said.
Because Of the fact that the com.
mittce OF nifty is hard pressed for
money TO pay for It's Investigations,
the reports are accepted nov and sent
, 20 the council. which will print them
! and pay the cost OF 80 doing Money
/ OF the members of the ATTY did not
understand this. they understood that
| they had been appointed TO collect in
; formation. determine the basis OF
settlement and negotiate one with the
I u L. H. Therefore they *,blected 10
tho handing Of the reports over TO The
common council
Tho debate did not start AT once.
Chairman Eddy opened The meeting IN
ihe council chamber with little talk
in which hc told OF the troubles oil
the committee in completing It's work.
More than 100 subcommittee meetings
had been held. he said.
Geo. H. Barbour read the schedules
committee report This called atten-
tion 20 the congestion during rush
hours spoke OF the noise due 10 made
quate care OF the ears and recommends
ed better service on several lines.
EN-Judge c ! Reilly protested when
il was moved 1n-reler ne report 10
the mayor
Why should We submit il 20 tie
mayor he inquired What are We
here fore Nha, were We appointed
for. II NOT 10 form some definite idea
as 10 The street railway question
Members In SausbbIe.
Reilly engaged in spirited debate
with Or j H. Caystens. Clyde |. Weo'
ster and others. but the discussion
was calmed down enough 10 allow OF
the report being referred Then tne
row started again when C. r. Russell
moved that al the ocS. reports be
considered read since the members
were not 10 have the privilege or de-
batting them before they went 10 the
council He was supported by Relily.
and II took talks by +. II Doyle. Char
man Eddy and finally by Mayor Brett
meyer himself 10 calm the storm
Harmony being restored, the othe-
reports were read. Great interest was
shown in the two reports on municipal
ownership. The majority report is
strongly adverse 10 municipal owner
ship II declares that the cities OF
Europe and Australia which have
tried IL are consested. heavily in debt
and that the wages paid 10 employes
and the service given the public are
both poor. With regard 10 the sitia.
tion here. the report argues that muni-
cipal ownership could be achieved
only in part or at great expense IN
whole by purchase OF lines whose
franchises have not expired. To bond
for the improvement would lower the
tredif OF tho city. ii is asserted, check
the power 10 bond for schools. PARKS,
sewers and other public improve
monts. The tax rate. il is asserted,
would 60 up and the success OF TIE
enterprise would be problematical
The minority report was read by
r. r. Schreiter. W. D Mahon, wne
rrepareG it, being absent
May Take Two years, Says Hssrer.
Il would not be surprised il it takes
two years more TO reach settlement
OF the street railway question. saEs
Commissioner Haarer OF the depart
ment OF public works. who has been
in official life for many years. The
data collected by the committee OF
FIFTY only convinces me that the Codd-
Hutchins franchise was the fairest set
tlement ever offered a city.
What puzzles me is the great ex-
penditure the u. L. r mas been max
ing on its tracks and pavements the
past three years This year alone
$500 0O0 or more has been spent For
the next few years the y. t. r. will
have. very little expense for that item.
I suppose thev will buy more rolling
stock then. But there certainly has
been some reason for this thing of
getting so busy on tracks and founda-
tons"
City Clerk Nichols takes the con-
Of the fifty as a further
boost for the Gliunan-Nichols resolu-
tion.
Say that the city makes the d. I.
r. an offer on he basis Of the rate
OF fare that has been found 10 be
right. according TO their figures 40
centso And suppose the ID L. r. turns
il down? What. then That is the
question they have been asking re
about the Gilman plan and now ! atn
firing il back.
Most Of the aldermen are keeping
their opinions To themselves for the
time being. The rate Of fare figured
ont by the committee Of fifty strikes
most OF hem as about right but they
are waiting 10 hear what the p L. r.
has 10 say IN regard 20 he appraisal
or which the rate VS. figured.
Neither President Hutchins nor Gen
eral Manager Brooks OF the j. I. r
was available for iuteryiewers Tues
day.