Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1909-01-18
Governor Frear's statement before
Senate Committee on Pacific Islands.
lCnnfinued from Saturday,

senate committee on racine lSlanus.
Continued from Saturday,
The Chairman think you are
right about that, Senator.
Senator Flint-Now, Mr.. McClel-
Ian, state the sections that are in
this bill which are not in the other
bill.
Mr.. McClellan-The sections con-
tanned in the bill approved by Gov
ernor Carter which are not contained
in the bill which he vetoed are Sec
lions 2, Z. 8, and 8. As have Just
stated, section Z gives to the Lahaina
Company the power to charge consul
mers one-half the cost and expense Of
making connections between the
company's nearest line OF supply and
the premises where the electricity is
to be used. Section s gives them the
right to take over and hold other
property. Section Q gives them the
power to mortgage and to issue
bonds.
Senator Flint-Was there any
thing in the bill of the territorial
Legislature which the governor vetoed
giving more power to the person or
corporation seeking the franchise
than the bill that is before us?
Mr.. McClellan.-Yes; the bill
which the governor vetoed gave that
company 35-year franchise, while
the bill before us which he vetoed
has a term revocable ut the will of
Congress.
The Chairman-What reasons did
the governor assign, II any at all. for
his action when he vetoed the bill?
Mr.. McClellan-H!s chief objec-
lions were that the franchise was for
the entire island of Maui; that 1t
was for thirty-five years. and that 1t
contained no provision for regulat-
Ing the rates to consumers. Every
one of these objections have been
met by amendments made by the low
er house of Congress. AS n matter
OF fact, the Lahaina bill. which the
governor approved, contained all but
one Of the features he objected to in
the Waikiki bill. and In addition
contained distinct privileges that
were not In the vetoed bill at all.
Senator Fllnt-How do the two
cities compare in population?
Mr.. McClellan-There are about
5000 people In Wailuku and $500 in
Lahaina.
Senator Flint--There are 5000 peo-
pie In the city whose bill was We
tced?
Mr.. McClellan-Yes.
Senator Flint-And $500 in the
other?
Mr.. McClellan--And $500 in the
town whose bill he approved.
The Chairman-Theb bills as they
are before us now are practically the
same? ] have not had a chance to
compare them.
Mr.. McClellan-They still have
the additional privileges to the town
OF Lahaina.
The Chairman-What are they?
Mr.. McClellan-Those referred tc
In sections 2. Z. s. and Q.
Senator Warner-You spoke a mo-
nient ago about charging one-half the
cost of making the connection. Whai
section is that Id?
The Chairman-It is section o.
Senate bill 1897.
Senator Warner-It is Senate bill
1898 that we have now before us.
Mr.. McClellan-That privilege Il
not In the other bill. in Senate bill
1898. The bill that was vetoed die
not contain that privilege to thu
company. The company whose bill
was vetoed received fewer privilege
than the one whose bill the governor
approved.
Senator Warner-That is In thu
other bill. section 7.
The Chairman-At the foot o
page 8. I
Mr.. Mcclellan would say to tn
committee that am not the attorne.
of these companies. am speaking
simply on behalf of the Delegate, VIII,
is, of course. interested in all matter
for the Territory and desires to hay
these measures put through, becaus
these communities want the facilitic
for having electric light.
The Chairman-You have no inter
est OF any kind In this franchise?
Mr.. McClellan-Absolutely none
either direct or indirect.
Senator Warner should like I
make an inquiry, 1 am not sufli
GENTLY familiar with section 7 of Sc
ate bill 1897, which provides that
said company shall also have III
right to charge consumers, or appll
cants for the use OF electricity, 10
one-half of the cost and expense O
making connections between tn
ccmpany's nearest line OF supply an
the premises where the electricity
to be used"
That is not in the other bill.
that provision customary?
Senator Milton think II Is. Her