The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1909-02-01

any Increase iu the manufacture. it
would add FL cents per 1000 feet TO the
1Ir. sTMs-The outlay on the inyest-
ment2
MI. FORsTALL-Yes; 6 Der rent on
5000 G10-
of ST per 1000 feet is reasonable, it
Wouu make the cost of gas SLIP
MT. FDBSTALL~-Yes
2Ir. SJMS-And IF IL is not reasonable.
Il would Dee 2 cents ON whatever is the
reasonable veIue2
Mr.. FORSTALL-It would be q c,nta
more on what ls the reasonable value
Mr. sTAIs-I have no other questions
at present
MI. TAYLOR-D0es any other mem
Der of the committee desire 10 ask
any questions
Some Value Without Monoxide.
Mir. MURPHY-If you could elini-
nate the carbon mouozide from the
water gas on the carbureted water gas,
would that gas then have any practical
commercial value in the business?
Sir. F0RSTALLs-Yes; it would have
Mr. MURPHY-S0me2
Mr FORSTAIL--Yes eliminating it
entirely, what you would lose would
be the heating value OF the carbon
mouOXide But that is rather an idle
speculation, because 10 is not possible
90 eliminate the carbon mOnOXide COM
merCially.
Mr.. MURPHY understand that
rFOBSTALL-IheTe have been some
processes patented foe doing If. but
they have never been worked. and it
iS impossible 60 work them and still
make gas that could bee distributed.
Mr.. MURPTIY-If IT were eliminated
there would ,Eem be no advantage ia
continuing the manufacture of Carbu-
retcd water gas?
Hrr .-
we'll made coal gas; because carDureted
water Eus with the carbon mDnUEidc
taken ont of 10 would have the same
disadvantage that coal gas has, as
Tar as smOkluess Is concerned and 9TH
or disagTeeabie effects.
Heating Qualities of Monoxide.
Mr MURPHY-Do you know or can
you state about what proportion of -he
heating qualities OF the water gas rs
due to the carbon In0uoEiGe2
Mr. FORSTALL-I figured that out
but I have forgotten II. Perhaps DT.
Love viii have some figures on that
What you said TO nst before the hear
ing began today made me think that
YOU might come at tuat. and / have
been trying TO think OF it, but i ba Ue
been unable 30 remember
Mr.. MCRPHY-Cau you state IL %
Mr. TAYLOR-He says DIR. Love may
Mr. FORsTALL-I could not state
aaythius I would be satisfied to give
without stopping and figuring II out
Mr. aIURPHY-On this heating prop
usitigI2
Mr. FORSTALL-Tes il is quite a
considerable percentage, but whether Il
IS 20 per cent or 30 per cent ] 90 not
know. / would not want 10 say.
However. III would reduce tie heGUnB
value UT inc gas quite q EOp4 oT1l lL 80
were taken oUts not the heating value
per cubic foot, butt starting Win q
thousand cubic feet OF CarbuTeted wa
ter gas and taking fEe carbon mon
oxide ont OF BE-, the heating value or
what was left of mat thousand feet
would be less than the heating value
of the original thousand cubic feet
MIR. TAYLOR-Cah you get the car
bon mOuOxide 0ut2
AIR. FORSTALI-NO, sir; there IS no
way OF getting % out commercially II
can De done in the laboratory There
are WAYS OF doing H.
Mr. TAYLOR understand
Bill Would Affect All
aIr. sI0is-Oue question that forgot
to ask. would like 20 put in All gas
companies now furnishing water gas.
are they or not Indirectly interested an
opposing this bill? Would il not have
"a moral effect To pass II against them
MI FORSTALL-I should say that the
passage OF this bin would very seriously
affect the situation or every gas COM
pauv furnishing carbureted water gas
Mr. ETlES-TLTOugl0ut the United
5LaJe5y
Mr.. FoRsTALL - throughout the
+ United States yes. sir.
Mr.. SIL5-Amd, therefore. Throughout
( the United States the water-gas com
paulez are naturally in opposition 10 this
.lIr. FORsTALL-I should think so: IL
SIR. SIlfs-And they ere not asleep
Air. FyRSTALL-WelI / did not know
anything about fl uutl last Saturday.
Not Acquainted With Mayors.
nm MOORE-Iu answer to 1Ir. Sims
I O. moment ago you indicated that the
mayors of municipalities, or the-authoFi-
+ ties Of municipalities, We're c0gulZ3ut OF
+ tie use OF garbureted water gas iu gas
works iu those municipalities
8Ir FORSTALL-I do not know that
. obey are, OF course I an not acqUMut-
/ aa WITH lEe mayor OF any municipality.
BIL it ls a matter OF publication IL is a
I matter of record that 10 is being sup
Piled and 1 suppose may ors OF munich
f pElitic= have been more or less inter
{ eHLe1 lu the New York gas case
LL MDDkE.-Is IL not fact that ID
+ every ET-at municipality there lis an
inspection Of the gas works, that they
. tI0Tlues OF tho ciLyT
/ MI FORSTALL--Hes. there is am iu-
/ SpecJ3E rl gas lu every Iar-c city.
. ar. MDDRi-Iu every large city Isl ii
/ not IL fact that the municipal aUthOri-
/ ties do know something about ft2
+ aIr- FDBSTALL-They should know.
! yes.
/ Mr. NOOREs-Yes, L wart TO quote %
/ you section Z OF the act incorporating
/ tle washington Gas Light C0mpanv
+ approved june g. lsl5. IL reads as fol
( lows.
See. g. And De s. further enacted. That
/ the president and directors. shall have nun
. power and authority - manufacture make
and sen gas % la made Of coal. oil tar.
peat. pitch. IuEpeDuue. or other material
. and Gu ba used for the purpose OF lighting
the city ~ G-lrgstoWu, or the streets there
/ ~. and amy buildings. manufactures OF
houses therein contained and situate and Co
lay pipes for the purpose OF conducting eas
b. any OF she streets. lanes. OF alleys 1r the
company shall so conduct Lhe manufacture
of eas as not 90 iujura private property. or
E create o. nuisance. and that the said Dimes
shall be laid subject 90 such conditions. ald
iu compliance with such regulations. as the
/ corporation Of Georgetown aforesaid uag
from time 20 time prescribe And provided
further That the right 90 erect and put zap
any buildings. works. OF apparatus for the
manufacture uf gas shau De subject to- such
tauE conditions. resfrictious- and raEuja-
tons Ass lla said corporation OF Georgetown
uey tr H time Co time prescribe or direct
Provisions Practically General
Having quoted this provision of On,