The Washington herald. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1906-1939, 1909-01-31

Friday. January 2. 1893
Statement Of Mr.. Edward 6. Love
(COnsinued).
Mr. Love-Nothing whatever. regarding
the heating power Of gas.
Mr.. Murphy-Is the gas used for heat
ing power?
M LOve-Oh. yes; a good deal
Mr. Murphy-D0 you have separate
meters for heating and Hghting2
Mr. LOve-No. only one; only one price.
Mr. Sims-What is the amount Of car
bon monoxide IN your New York gas?
Mr. Love-From recent analyses It var
les from l. TO Is per cent The reason is
this. the percentage Of carbon monoxjde
IS somewhat reduced from the fact that
We think. in no gas supply on Manhattan
Island do We get either q straight coal
gas or q straight water gas. We set a
mixture That is within the province
Of the Consolidated Gas Company, There
are two or three companies where we
get straight. that is. mean. a car
buTetted water gas In that case the
carbon monoxide runs up 10 = per cent
Mr. Sims-Is there any law or regula-
ton prescribing the percentage Of ear
bon monoxide that may appear in gas2
Mr. Love-None whatever.
Mr. Murphy-Tou have large Oh refiR-
cries in New York. have you?
Mr.. LOve-oh. yes; there are some in
that vicinity
Mr.. Murphy-Proximity 10 an oil re-
fnery would be quite a factor in the de-
termination OF whether water gas would
be cheaper than coal gas. would Il not?
Mr.. Love-That is a commercial Ques-
ton. I suppose. OF course. Il you do not
have TO transport your oil so far, it does
not cost you so much money. do not
know what the New York companies are
paying for their oil OF course. they
make long contracts. I suppose. In some
cases, and get Il at lower figure.
Mr.. Murphy-You DO not know what
the average price is Of the character of
oils that are. used?
Mr. Love-I do not, sir
Mr.. Sims-8Ir. GoldsbOrough, would you
Ike to ask any questions?
Mr.. GoldsbOT0ugh-Mr. Love. about
what proportion is the mixture there in
New York;
Mr. Love-It is impossible % state, for
the very reason IL is ali a mixture. Some
times. I suppose. they put ii. perhaps. =
Per cent of coal gas and - per cent Of
water gas; that was the last quotation
on f. The Consolidated Gas Company. II
] ask them, give Il 10 me so far as they
can, bot they cannot 60 Il. because they
have holders all over New York. and one
su5company. one branch. happens to be a
little short IN gas supply. and they have
a main which viii Ill that holder from
some other station
Mr. GoldsborOugh-We manufacture
here. as I understand It. about 50 per cent
Of water gas and % per cent OF coal gas;
that IS our mixture.
Mr.. Murphy-Do you state that as a
fsct2
Mr Goldsborough-Ths Is what I IN
derstsHd 20 be shs fact
Mr. TaylOr-Dr- Wiley stated that the
other day
ar Goldsb0rough-Yes the government
witness stated that About what proper
ton OF monoxide would thar carry, that
solution or that combination
Mr. Love-That would depend alto
gether upon how much carbon m0noxide
there was in your coal gas. and how
much there was in the water gas. I
Should say roughly. about - per cent
The average. it would vary somewhat
with the Goals?
Ar Bove-Yes. there are variable con-
ditions on different days IN the same
plant say, even. and certainly with dtf-
ferent plants different methods Of manu-,
factllre. different processes.
Nj Murphy-Why should II vary on
different days?
SIR Love-Simply because Il X 4 mat
Ter Of heating the retorts, il IS q matter
OF the control Of the process. It IS alb
solutely impossible 10 control and get
absolutely the same result every time.
Mr. G0ldsborough-The amount Of uois-
tUre IN the atmosphere and the pressure
would DC likely 10 have influence on Il.
would they iot2
Mr.. Love-AIore on the heat than any
thing else
Mr. Sims-Perhsps it Is not an i'm
proper question, since you are a gas IN
spector. 70 ask what salary they pay gas
inspectors in New York;
Mr. Love-They pay the chief gas ex-
HniHer 5000 a year They pay the or
dinary gas inspectors $500
Mr. Sins-YOU are the chief. are vou7
Mr.. LOTe-Tes
Mr. Sims-You are the $500 man?
Mr.. Love-Yes. sir
Mr. SIMS understood you to say that
when there Is more than p De-. cent or
carbon monoxide In gas that that pre-
cluded any mixture Of coal gas2
Mr. Love-As a legal proposition.
should say that a gas might cUntain-T
can make mixture Of water gas and
coal gas and keep the percentage OF car
honic oxide to p per cent, and stiIl have
coal gas in IL
Mr. Sims-T say as a practical question
Mr. LOve-Tes. sir.
Mr. Moore-It seems 10 have been fairly
well demonstrated here. that moncxide
Is poisonous quantity. and also that IL
has developed in the manufacture Of Gas
since the beginning. Tt appears 10 me
that the announcements that have re-
Gently come forth that deaths have oc-
CURED through poisoning by monoxi6e
are not new propositions. I want N ask
you whether, in view OF your experience
n New York City. you have anv sig
gesti0n 70 make as 10 how the danger
may be leSsened-whether It shah he bv
the elimination Of the manufacture alto
gether. or whether IL shall be BY regliIa-
ton?
Mr. Bove-I do not think that any
amount Of legislation viii ever sion the
bad practice that some people have of
turning OF the gas and forgetting al
about It. and OF blowing Il out, If they
do not know any better, or turning it out
and letting IL flow into the room IN
burned, If they want to commit suicide.
Mr. Moore-Is it your judgment. then.
that the appearance OF monOxide in the
use Of gas can be properly controller
Air. BOve-I think II can.
Mr.. Moore-You think there Is a method
OF regulating
Mr. Love- should not undertake to
90 Il by simply wiping out a gas which
otherwise has a great many good quaH-
ties simply because some people abuse il.
Nr- Moore-Suppose a measure shouls