New-York tribune., 1909-01-17
SLICER THIS AT COLBY
~ ISSUE on PRIM4RIES.
Pastor and Jersey Reformrr Treat
Cjfu Chit to Spicy Debate.

---e~z n the City Club listened to one Of
s-frss=t debates in the history Of the organ
- when fnev met for luncheon AZ 120 p N
--gr7z- 90 discuss direct nominations Of public
80 Fy-Serato~ Everett Colby. OF New Jer-
s7'-. ,,.orra p Leighton. Of New Hampshire; Rob
79' -ef-Eerf secretary Of the Citizens Union
che Rev Thomas r. Siieer, OF Cooper
~. ~. e,-- she'd the aIspice. under the direction
,,- lrrA~euy. president Of the City Club who
-,eer-r.asrer.
az .~,-pv argued for the direct primary in a
81, .,5 -arvinrfnE way. bur the Rev. Mr. Slicer
e...--4z= in no uncertain terms
=, may +~ter that At New Jersey huskinEs
= crf~r~ addressing himself to ex-senator
'-.J-~. .agr yra can't here as long as can pro
ies, ,7- z.r4--= speech another diner arose
80 T.. chairman NcAneny: II would Ike 10
& 1 n size. # re is in favor Of direct nomi-
n2ll-[ ---a-, The Rev Nr sricer was on his feet
an5 replied
vas a. NJ zs-erz a.e-1ntnure rebutral to sec
- t.-- -y- Senator colby, during which Mr.
- --a-a5 further IN proof of his contention
- -r7 real remedy lay IN il1lp'' OWING te present
L--s-+io- s-s-s--. somebody asked. as the oler-
- sa- down How are You going 10 do it,
-, NJ -.+r-- REPLIED. THAT Is my business.
: .s-s-r- colby m referring 20 his recent de
- 4- ,lerv Jersey. said that he had n" fanIt 10
-r-s -r---f7arlaa said they did all they
--s Fl, sre-- me- and aeieT" them he said
CO. nm =--,-- - The question At issue. Nr- Colby
- -rz .@7-re we're tired OF having 4 few
- o,~---l The party. and that they wanted 10
ssz their OWN ----57s-f',Is livery h"inli'a' 'l
- .-s ri-y-- IN ETTv Jersey ar The last elecll'h
' ..- s- -f- raUsparer Offices twenty4tour
- rsr--l -ra nominations vera made In
sss-z+-z of re advantages Of the direct primary.
= - s..-. .-- aholtshes the dehauoherv of
--.--f--z- -- destroys the personal element
L,-.-,. g.. man votes fo- another simply because
=. r,-+a- rgs srre hin . favor. = con0els every
-r-.=z-s a. stale his position on pubic qHeshohs'
and in rhe f7-E ru~ it produces better class '1
cau5.5ates
- ----- ee- q good man 70 take . nomination
Fl. -, +.s - CO What he IS told bv an organization
H., - - fs nominated ny the people. whom he
ss-z-ss ba can e. % them and ssk them for re
nomination and election.
= discussing the alleged arguments against his
-.-,-,-s=-f-- NJ Colby said Opponents Of direct
~,-ses say fl gives greater power n the political
i.-szsz As q matter Of fact all political leaders
.-s against T. because = takes away their patron
sse which falls into the hands Of men who don't
7ra-- f. THev say II prevents q poor man from
fe,r elected 70 Office Experience points the other
7svar-as- al United States Senat rs elected ~
direct vote ara 7-Cr men / makes for minority
election. rrav SPY But that Is under he present
system TIE President ~ev he elected hy
minority r--= Ny Democratic opponent in New
Jersey vas elected minority vote Thirty-ni1e
t-nrsraes0-=v were elected nE minority vote
u sn-e- se-z- Some -re has said, more than
r--tc7r- that the United States is place whore
al The mistakes - the past are tried over on a
large scale
The trouble with The convention system IS that
he leaders are not trusted to act NJ ~ their
knowledge he-sr.sa ~ private interests A change
- svs-e-r is -1r "a process of regeneration The
c-y from emf. overs from rhe cook stove 70 the
factory IS z-t5n5-r--. and not system i
cogl5 s=- one party leader in soul 70 soul talk
] col,E accomplish more than by prevailing upon
Legislatures 70 give Us a new system"
NJ S.t.-- said every newspaper or this city was
either -Ie5 mp private interests personal
prejudice and when somebody ~ the guests table
asked. 'Au-" Nr- S5ce- affirmed his statement
incidentally NJ S'iCe- took fall out - Senators
IeHev and P1art in the following words.
Take The TWO men who. like two ghosts. occupy
s. dsr-aEn-s. g~auscarCeu-lv unfit. that YOU
.zTe only r. Jock them TO through them
1-- Ga arg ".@ -ise - protest when they ere
trey mold. Nr Why rur2 The matter IS a good
oea Ike taaI # tie reversal q the Pope's policy
n lEe-a.-- who. vas explained iD the COntern-
tnta--it-E inspired hut not always irfallhly in
.frr-1 Tie 10" I.-e have the right IDEA but they
o' aot Know -.Er what the conditions are They
are not correctly Informed
NJ Leighton Who was recently = candidate for
Senate la New Hampshire, said he was not Yet
Convinced. He cited disadvantages Of the direct
primary, tat did not wish 10 he understood
kaE-1g that they could not He corrected or that
Ire co1Ve1rf-. system was a better one
R're-r : rs=-5 made q convincing speech IN
tavor ~ 5.~a.r nominations