The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1909-01-05


The resolutions were not adopted by the
meeting until a most decided difference
OF opinion had arisen between the speak
ers of the evening, Brigham II. Roberts
had been challenged to a joint debat on
Russia and socialism by Rev. w. T.
Brown and Ma or NJ. a. Breeder. former
attorney general of the state, had been
drowned out by the boots and cat calls
of the audience.
The audience was apparently willing and
anxious to pass the resolutions which we're
read al the opening of the meeting by
Dean Brewster of st. Marks cathedral
without discussion. but the efforts of the
speakers at least added spice and enthu-
siasm to the evenings entertainment. Two
ministers of the gospel who spoke advo-
Gated the arbitrary breaking of the ex-
tradition treaty existing between the Unit
ed States and Russia, and when 3. II.
Roberts recommended a course of mCder-
alton ana compliance with the law, add
ing that Russia was making progress to-
ward freedom, DIR. Brown arose. protested
vehemently against the imputation that
his speech had been arbitrary or extreme,
informed Mr.. Roberts that he had been
talking nonsense, that ne knew nothing
about the conditions of Russia and chal-
lensed him to joint debate.
Discusses Legal Aspect.
After the meeting had been called to or
der By Chairman G. w. Meyer and Master
Kline had performed solo upon the
piano, Dean Brewster read the reSolt-
tons. Il. NJ. Allison was then introduced
and spoke on the legal aspects of the case
OF POuTen and RudOwitz lie stated that
so far the evidence against them had been
by rumOr and hdlrsay. He compared them
to Shurz. Kossuth and other patriots, in
GLIDING George Washington, and closed
with hearty Endorsement of the resolu-
ton.
Brown, who announced that he was
against giving anyone over to Russia
whether he were guilty of the crime
charged or not He stated that the evil
dence against any man in Russia was not
to be depended on. that the statements of
the minions Of the Bureaucracy merely
bore out the orders of the tyrant and that
no justice could De administered under
the Russian government He closed with
fervid sentence or two concerning the
advance of the brotherhood of man.
Endorses Resolutions.
After John p. Meakin had recited poem
George NJ. Sullivan spoke. He stated that
he was by no means prepared to go so far
as the previous speaker. but that In the
cases of Pouren and Rudowitz he was con-
WINGED that they were being sought by
Russia. for political offenses and not for
criminal offenses. and he believed that
when public sentiment demanded 1t as in
this case the officials of the government
should yield to the protest of the people
After song by little Eugenia Belle Bar
yer, Bishop F. s. Spaulding was intro
duced. He detailed the narrowing exper-
fences Of Russian political refugees which
had come under his observation and stated
that he also doubted whether any man
should be delivered over to Russia by the
United States even if the law sanctioned
it. He was given an ovation by the audi
ence when he took his seat.
After another song by Miss Barver.
Brigham II. Roberts spoke. He reminded
the audience that the resolution under dis
cussion was addressed to the representa-
tives of our own government, not to Rus
STA. and counseied moderation. He re-
minded them that the treaty with Russia
was part of the supreme law OF the land |
and must be adhered to under all circum- |
stances. He then emphasized the clause |
of the treaty which provides that no man |
should be surrendered to a foreign power |
for political Offenses aud stated that on |
this clause the demand to Secretary Root |
was based. He said that although Amer
Ca was the refuge for all who sought free /
dom. the United States should not become |
the dumping ground of the worlds crimi- |
nails. He reminded the audience that Rus
STA had held out helping hand when 9TH
sr nations wished to recognize the confed- /
eracy, that Russia was gradually gaining 4
freedom and advancement and that no |
government CpuiQ FNtffIudltl StdnQ O4I 4
against the right Of 20ooeo.0oO people to
freedom
DR.. Brown then spTang to his feet and 1
announced that he resented the imputa- /
lion that his speech had been incorporate
and said that Mr.. Roberts did not know
what he was talking about when he said 1
hat Russia was gaining freedom and ad-
He asked for a joint debate
n which both speakers might have forty
minutes time
strTpo long - shouted SomaoOo in he !
Hence and Dr. Brown sat down amid
,heers-
Major NJ. A. Breeder then asked to ad-
lress the meeting. He said: Il believe
hat most Of the audience are either Rus
ians OF Of Russian descent At this
,oint he was greeted by shouts of No
So Hire a hall. sit down." and Ma
or Breeder reluctantly resumed his seat
'ir. Roberts then stated that he had no
esire TO criticise Mr.. Browns speech, that
% far as he knew they were simply dis
ussing the text of the resolutions and
hat he wished the audience to understand i
hat SO far as the resolutions were con-
erned he was heartily in favor of them.
Henry W. Lawrence then moved that
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