The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1909-04-29

Imposition To Bond City For $685.
900 Slips Through Easily At
Special Meeting Of Council. !

Mocnincs. This goes TO the board OF
4 ontimates at It's session Wednesday
nisht where there will be another dis
Dnte over tie item.
6eptimenl in the board OF esti-
mates SCENE TO favor the purchase OF
S ne machines. the committee having
= The matter IN charge having unani-
mously adopted a report favoring
\ them.
II took more than an hour of the
hardest kind Of struggling to pass the
item at thu special council session.
4 Roll call after roll call was held. and
Assistant Corporation Counsel Law
con was called In TO answer nalf a
dozen questions bearing upon the
matter.
There was much talk among those
opposed to the measure OF the lobby
Ing I'm favor OF il. but no charges OF
undue influence were brought. Sew
eral representatives of voting ma
chine companies were present.
Charles III. Weber, former alderman
from the fifteenth ward. being one or
these. IL Was Weber who initiated
the movement for voting machines
last fall.
The opposition O. the Board of Com
merce directors, who adopted resolu-
tiCns Tuesday afternoon opposing the
( purchase Of machines, was brought up
IN the size talks but apparently,
given little consideration by the alder
men.
When tn. session was called 10
order shorty after IL o'clock, there
was not quorum present. Sergt.
Hicks was sent TO the assessors Of
nee to hale In the members of the
board OF review and other aldermen
kept coming In until there were 81
present. Aid. Freiwald. president pro
\ tenn. gave up the chair TO Aid. Keat-
\ ing In the absence OF President link
Aid Heineman objected at once to
taking the voting machine proposal
from the table and was defeated on a
vote. Then Aid. Vernon rose To pro-
pose an amendment TO the report or
Aid. Gilman favoring the proposition.
Vernon said he was for voting ma
chimes but wanted them paid for by
dve-year bonds instead OF in 10 years.
At this point. Lawson was called in TO
tell the council whether such an
amendment would constitute new mat
ter and allow Of one objection putting
e over and causing another special
session. HI decided that IL WOULD not
and other questions were fired at him.
II was apparent ;hat Aid. Gilman
and others distrusted Aid. Heineman
and would not give him a chance TO
delay by parliamentary technicalities.
Hcineman declared that he would not
object further.
Wen kf,ow when we get through
with you, Eeinemar. IL you are sin
cere or not" shouted Gilman.
Aid. Allan explained that ten-year
bonds had been specified because IL
was figured that ii would take five BIZ
n ennial elections to save the cost OF
the machines. Aid. Gilman proposed
to cut out the time limit for the tonds
entirely but this did not meet with
4 favor.
After man. speeches, Aid Xernor,s
hye-year loading amendment was
voted on and lost oy vote Of IA to
\ III. Aid. Field rose to plead again
that the city buy a few machines each
+ year and test them.
On the fifal vote. only Aid. Heine-
man, Carve, Field, Thompson and
Vernon voted against sending the ten
year bondlng proposition to the board
+ OF estimates. those voting In favor OF
the plan being: Aid. Allan, Deimel,
Ellis, Freiwald. Gilman. Goeschel,
\ Grtndley. Gutman, HARPER, Heating,
Koenig, konkel, Kcrte, Lempke. Os-
trowsh. Owen, ReiEhardt. Rosenthal.
Rntter, Schultz, Shapland, Tossy,
4 Trevor, Walsh, Wing and Zoeller.
Aid Allan and Koenig then sewed
tho matter Up by a motion 10 recon-
slider being indefinitely postponed.
"The voting machines trust was
here and had the goods" was Aid.
Heineman's comment.
"Wednesday mornings session was
a sequel to 4 hot discussion In the
council meeting Tuesday evening. AT.
ter test Cf strength in which those
favoring voting machines showed un-
der the ANTS" 20 TO 6. Aid. Heine-
man tabled Sne resolution to pass the
proposition ON to the board OF esti-
mates by offering objection To it's
passage. one objection being sufficient
under the rules 10 held 1t up.
The credit of the city of Detroit is
the best In the country" declared
Eeineman. 1T has become so because
the city has kept its bonding limit
dowr and has bonded onIy for per.
menent improvements. This serial
bonding provision Is in the law that
the voting machine companies lam.
med through the legislature.
IF this matter were put up To the
men who have made the credit of the
city what IL Is, to the people of fnau-
cial experience who realize what this
bonding proposition means. they would
rather pay this sum of money at once
I'm taxes than have bonds issued. The
board OF estimates takes q cowardly
position In saying that the machines
are necessary, but refusing TO put the
amount on the tax levy, giving bonds.
promissory notes instead
Controller Doremus was called ON
for his opinion as TO the effect Of these
bonds on the city's credit.
Issuing them will certainly do no
good TO our credit, but | would not
Hike to say that this one act standing
alone would be harmful" he said. I'll
Is bad precedent, however"
The merits OF the machines were
discussed at length, Aid. Gilman pre-.
v dnciDg correspondence TO show that
they work well In other cities and urg.
ing the saving that they would be Ia
cutting down election expenses. AID
fleincman declared that the machines
would not accommodate the vote an.
[ that two or three times the amour;
asked would be needed to properly
equip the city.
On the test vote, Aid. Field. Garvey
. crindley. Thompson and Watson voted
IL