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had been done for him by oRe of the
House members The article accusing
graft was written in good faith. Irwin
said he regarded the giving Of trans
lation to an incompetent person who
received help from a member of the
House as graft.
He suggested, after more question
ing, that the committee should call
upon the Accounts Committee for a
list of all bills presented-paid or NOT.
He thought something interesting
might be learned. He instaneed bills
paid to Wise and Apau as questionable
bills He regarded the statements
made on the floor of the House that
for charges of graft. He spoke of Ka-
leiopu, Long and Cohen in this regard.
The witness referred also to the sto
ries current at the time of the defeat
of the liquor bill, of bribery and at
tempted bribery He had not alto
gether credited the statements at that
time, knowing that there was a good
deal of excitement about that time
and that some interested might make
any kind of charges at that time.
Coney said that he thought Irwin
should give the name of his original
informant to the committee.
Irwin pleaded privileged communica-
| ton and stated that there was no
need of divulging the name as the
statements were subsequently corrob-
| GRATED by Long.
"I would like to ask the Attorney
| General if this committee has the right
| to demand the name of this inform
| ant asked Single.
tsYou have said Whitney, "under
| the general law
"That S what we're here for" said
| Kawewehi.
Shingle said that he understood r.
wins position, having once been a
| newspaper man, but that the work Of
| the committee required the name.
Irwin asked that the demand be not
| made at the present time and until
he could see his Informant. He had
no desire to be disrespectful to the
committee but would have to refuse to
answer at this time.
Single then excused him until this
morning, after Irwin had suggested
that the Chairman of the Accounts
Committee, Secretary Mott-Smith and
Territorial Clerk Conkling be called,
after hearing whom he thought the
committee would have evidence
enough.
Whitney asked Irwin if a part of
his story was not "hunch. Irwin
said that there were things in the air
that reporters gathered in, and part
of his story was of the "hunch' va
riety He said that there were stories
af1oat of extravaganza in the matters
of clerks, translation stories and other
indefinite impressions that all was not
right.
edo you know from your own
knowledge or from any informant that
any member of the House of Repre-
sentatives has received any gold coin
other than that allowed him by law?'
asked Shingle.
sfNot any particular member" an
swered Irwin. ''There were stories in
circulation that some members were
paid to vote on the Liquor Bill -
"For or against the bill,'' asked
Shingle.
''By both Sides" answered Irwin,
who qualified this by saying that this
was only an impression.
Irwin stated that Representative
Castro had told him that James Apau
had drawn pay for translation work
done by Representative Sheldon. He
thought Representative Long had done
the same thing
Long Tells of Suspicious.
Representative Long was next called
and sworn, while stenographer from
the Department of Public Works was
brought in to take down his statements
Long said he had read the graft
charges in the Bulletin, but did not re-
member talking with Irwin on the par
tieular subjects before the publication.
After the publication of the article he
had talked about it with Irwin. He
had been asked if there was color
of truth in the article and he had said
that there certainly was.
ShingIe pointed out where he was
quoted as saying that the article was
absolutely correct and asked Long If
he had made the statement.
What [ did say was that the story
was substantially true answered
Long.
Long said that he did not mean that
members We're padding their accounts
What [ did say was that certain
members were translating bills for
other people. The thing came about in
this way. There were complaints of