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The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
l;()sGR0VE
;STRONGER
(Times Special Service.)

Grimes special Service.)
OLYMPIA, Jan. 2S.-Governor
Cosgrove Is stronger today than
yesterday and is ready and will
ing to receive all visitors, but his
BON Howard limits HIS talks to as
lew words as possible, much to his
ather's disgust.
u The governor will remain in his
pr until Friday night in Olympia.
& He is very anxious to take part
b the house-warming of the ex-
cutive mansion tonight but his
Family will not permit it.
d Lieut.. Gov. Hay Is acting gov
Iernor today under the disability
3elause. He moved into the execu-
five chambers this morning.
Senator Ruth of Thurston now
.presidee over the senate.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
GETS A MARRIAGE LICENSE
BUT is JAILED BEFORE THE
CEREMONY-GIRL is SENT
HOME TO PARENTS.

(By United Press Leased Wire.)
VANCOUVER, Wash, Jan. %.
r. d. Parker, aged 81 years,
was arrested here yesterday for
the abduction of Alice Weise,
daughter of Mr.. and Mrs. August
|Weise, hotelkeepers in st. Johns,
lOre. Mark Bartlett, who took
oath at the court house when a
marriage license was secured.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
THE BON MARCHE CLOSES
TOMORROW.

All day tomorrow employees at
the Bon Marche will be busy pre-
pairing for a rousing day Satur-
day, the last day of the sale which
this enterprising house has con-
Quoted SO successfully. For the
last day several useful presents
are to be given away (see win
dows) ;. and considerable interest
will be taken in these gifts by
early shoppers Saturday morn
ing. *s*
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
Big Excursion, Los Ange.
les and Return.

Excursion will be run to Los An
geles on Feb. 20, under auspices Of
the Tacoma and Seattle Chambers
of Commerce. Special through
train, low rates, everything COM
plete, via Northern Pacific and
Southern Pacific. You are invited to
Join this party. Reservations must
be made quickly as only limited
number of tickets will be sold, For
particulars and reservations cali
Percy L. Sinclair, Secy. Chamber of
Commerce; Northern Pacific Office,
or Southern Pacific. sss
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
ONE PAIR wATERvIEw LOTS

50x130 feet on North Tacoma av.,
between 9Th and 9th. Unobstructed
water view; above grade. See them
If looking for a domestic. Price
only $4,000. Liberal terms If de-
sired at 6 per cent. Exclusively
e. II. MILLER & co,
116 18th st.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
SNAP IN SCHOOL SEC
TTON
"A LOTS AND HOUSE, $500
BLK. TO MASON Av. BOULE-
WARD

Improved with handsome home, en-
tirely cleared and under cultivation,
fruit trees, ETC.; only blocks from
Proctor ST.. a thoroughfare graded
from 9Th av. to North 3Sth; In the
best part of the school section fiji q
district being rapidly improved with
pretty homes; on the extension OF
the North X st. line. Good terms.
See this quick. We have sold Blocks
rs and 1872 In the last three days.
m. HI. KOEHLER q 90.
4th Floor Berlin Bldg.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28

lBy United Press Leased Wire.)
VIRGINIA CITY. New, Jan. 2s.-
re in the Sutro tunnel in the
pmstock mines. one of the longest
nnels in the world, nearly cost
I'd to safety after the most heroic
bid hazardous efforts ON the part Of
Rcir comrades.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28

MARRIAGE LICENSES.
Marriage licenses have been is
led to Louis Farrar and Hattie
'oods, and to J. w. Link and Alice
Mcneil. ~ III xlElE1
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FOR SALE by OWNER.
I HAVE SOMETHING

you might want. Better come out
and see. 5-room house, good lots,
city water in house and yard, $3.50.
Small cash payment down, balance
monthly. Take Traction car, get off
at Seth, ask for Williams. Don't
come unless you mean business. No
time to fool.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
SITE FOR THREE HOUSES.

On South I, easy walk from five
railroad terminals; frontage, 58 feet
depth 1870 feet; unsurpassed view
All improvements in. Price only
$1,575. Exclusively with e. II.
Miller g. Co., 116 18th st.
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
NORTH END SNAP

A corner 1o0x1so IT. with nice
line. owner must sell. For a quick
sale $3.50; t15c cash. Warranty
deed and abstract furnished See
me at once.
D. p. SMITH
Car. n. s1st ana Psszl u rel ssla
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All kinds Of fresh fish at Ameri-
can Fish Co., City Dock. $50
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28

Just arrived, fish, herring and
} elts, at American, Fish Co. 49,
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28
$40 Cash
$40 Per Mo.

(. We have a number of desirable
lots from 3 to 8 blocks from Alki
Station. on Puyallup and Spanaway
car lines, which we can sell on
above terms and at a very low price,
Ten minute car service morning and
evening; s cent fare. The addition
is building up rapidly. We also
have two tracts equal to lots at
rate of $75 per lot on easy terms,
In same location.
w. G.. Peters & Co.
401-2-3 Chamber of Commerce Bldg.
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A. c. JONES' SPECIALS.
will by calling it.
and sidewalk
:
4o-ACRE vAsHoN FARM
land we'll
ad and % e fro ea Ts n S9S lying aSo
at
Small Fruit and Vegetable Farms
have large list and the prices right and this
is the right time to buy.
A. O. JONES, til
The Tacoma times. [volume] (Tacoma, Wash.) 1903-1949, 1909-01-28

MEN AND WOMEN to solicit and
INTRODUCES Al articles, Experienced
and nnexperienced. Apply between
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
NEW ORLEANS REFUNDSFARES
JObberS Place No Restrictions on
Goods Purchased.
Buyers VIII BE Entertained at Yari-
Gus Places Of Amuse-
menf Free.

New Orleans. July Awhile various
large JObbing centers are laying plans to
bring the country buyer TO the city. pro
vided purchases Of a certain amount are
made, It remained for New Orleans 10
bring out the latest development and the
iobbing and manufacturing concerns OF
this city, through the Progressive Union,
announce that they not only VII pay the
round-trip fares Of visitors. but viii stip-
ulate no conditions whatever es 20 the
amount Of purchase. In addition, they
VIII give free entertainment Of various
kinds during what viii be known ss the
Buyers Convention" 10 be- held during
the week Of August to Z
The hotels have made special reduced
rates, and a dozen or more places Of
amusement and entertainment will throw
open their doors complimentary to the
visitors Prices OF goods viii be reduced
and every inducement given TO putting
the buyer in position 70 secure extra ad-
vantage over those offered by jobbing
markets IN the North and East
No excursions VIII be run a. the
buyer, having mis- fare refunded. is not
concerned in the cost and can come 70
New Orleans comfortably on all regular
trains. II is said to be the first time in
the history OF wholesale business that
any such offer has been made by any
city In the United States.
NJ. B. IRRELEVANT.
SECRETARY Progressive Union.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
TROUBLE AHEAD IN MEXICO
TelegrapherS' Demands Grow Out of
Ambition Of Native Operators.
They Desire to supplant Americans
and May Tie UD Railroad
to Do II.

San Antonio. Tex, July 2I-That trou-
blesome times are ahead OF the rail-
road business in Mexico IS the opinion OF
local railroad men who come in contact
with the Mexican railroad employees on
the border.
Ever since the merging Of the various
lines into the National Railways OF Mex
leo a great deal Of unrest has been
manifested among their employees. The
Mexican government being now a con-
trolling factor IN the combination. il is
but natural that It should try TO get its
own people employed on the lines. With
this policy, however. the American rail-
road men are not impressed.
At a recent meeting of the board OF d.
rectOrs of the National Railways Il was
decided 10 get as many young Mexicans
as possible into the telegraph department
Of the system. While quite number are
now employed IN II. none OF them iii any
Of the better positions. all the dispatchers
and chief dispatchers being Americans
To get these men trained It was sug-
gested 10 the dispatchers that they need
ed assistants. The men. however, thought
that they could get along without assis-
tants. and, as a cOuntermOve II was de-
cided TO ask for an Increase in salary.
The dlspatchers. who have heretofore
received go pesos a month. have asked
for an increase Of 10 pesos. and the
chief dispatchers with a salary OF s25
pesos, asked for an additional 70 pesos.
Sixteen chief dispatchers and sixty-six
dispatchers are involved in these de-
mands
According 20 present indications the
conductors and engineers OF the system
will side with the dlspatchers. The for
mer realize that Il Is but a question Of
time before their turn Will come and
a complete tie-up OF the system at this
time would do much to restore the Ameri-
can employee TO the point Of vantage he
formerly held.
The Mexican government, while holding
q slight majority Of the stock Of the road.
might see fit TO go a little slower in the
matter If the American stockholder OF
the road failed TO see why the system
should be crippled for any length Of time
because Of the great haste OF the Next
can government TO get its own citizens
TO run the road.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
RAILROAD MEN SAVE.
n. & o. Employees Deposited $500, 592
in Relief Department Last Year.

Il. q O. Employees Deposited S932, 502
in Relief Department Last Year.
The showing OF the savings and loan
features OF the Baltimore and Ohio En-
ployes' Relief Department for the fiscal
year ended with June is good one. re-
fiecting as It does the betternent Of con-
ditions in railroad circles. The interest
rate on employees deposits for the year
was restored to the old figures OF 81 per
cent, an increase OF 4 per cent.
The company guarantees 4 per cent,
and the remaining ~ per cent repre-
sented the earnings on loans made en-
ployes for the purchase OF building OF
homes
The employees deposits during the year
totaled 1892 592. which, with the accrued
interest or S235, SIS, added Sl,169,g5 IN
twelve months. Withdrawals OF $S55, SS9
left A,718.573 due employees at the end Of
the year. a gain OF S319,S76. The loans
made employees during the fiscal year
aggregated $1,031.942. making the whole
sum so loaned to June 30 SS,75O. SOB. The
manner OF payment on these loans TO en-
ployes by the month, with interest COM
puted only on the balance. brings the
rate under 81 per cent.
Membership IN the Baltimore and Ohio
relief department numbers $3.50, OF whom
$40 are depositors in the savings fea-
ture. an Increase Of PSI. With some 1000
additional employees of the Baltimore and
Ohio Southwestern participating in relief
features during the ensuing year, the
operations viii be largely extended.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
FOREIGN TRADE INCREASES
Bureau of Statistics Issues State
ment for Fiscal Year.
Large Expansion OF Imports OF Ma
teriaIs Used I'm MRnufae-
tured Products.

The statement OF exports and imports
issued by the Bureau Of Statistics pre-
sents figures for the fiscal year ended
with June. 1909. The June imports were
Sl24, 693. 4g7. an increase Of Ss2.5S6569 over
the imports Of June. 1903: exports. Sl17. 5S6.-
S93, an Increase of 81, 100, us compared with
June. 1908.
For twelve months ended with June
the imports are 1871. 9lS592. an increase
Of Sill. eO6.sO0 over the corresponding
months Of last year; exports. 1903. 126,S0S,
a decrease Of S1sT. 6.6 4SS compared with
the corresponding period Of last year.
The excess Of exports over imports in
the tweIve-month period is 1851. 1881 a
decrease Of SS15. %, 23S when compared
wfth the excess Of exports in the CORE
spending months Of last year.
Dutiable imports in the twelve months
ended with June, 1903. were valued at
S7l2. Ss4 S17. against S65S, 73S, 4s4 IN the cor
responding months Of last year, an in
crease Of 1886 .333: imports free Of duty
in the twelve months were S599, $50, rs.
against $525. eos, sos IN the corresponding
months OF last year, an increase OF
So. $50. 457.
The Increase in imports occurs chiefly
in materials for use IN manufacturing,
The decrease in exports occurs chiefly IN
cotton. corn, wheat, and meats. the de-
cline IN cotton being due solely to lower
prices. the quantity exported being
greater than last year; IN breadstuffs and
meats the quantity exported is less than
that OF last year.
The excess Of exports over imports for
the fiscal year was the smallest since
1897. this being due to unusually heavy
imports and unusually light exports, when
measured in values. The imports show
a greater total value than in any fiscal
year, except 1907, while in quantities the
figures of 1909 exceed those Of 1907 in
many articles; the exports show a less
total value than in any year since 1905,
due In some instances to lower prices
and in other TO reduction In quantity OF
the articles exported
In the month OF June. 1909, the imports
exceeded the exports by more than 81
100000, this beng the first month since
1897 In which imports have equaled or
exceeded exports.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
WORK BEGINS ON PIPE LINE.
Tube Started at Lost Creek to Bring
Gas to baltimore.

A special dispatch from Grafton. W
Va, says that the natural gas line to be
constructed by the Philadelphia company
between the Lost Creek field and Balti-
more was commenced several days ago.
and the work Will be rushed to compile
ton Three hundred laborers were started
to work at Lost Creek. and the number
will be augmented when the work gets in
full swing.
The Columbia Gas Company. which
owns $4,000 acres Of gas lands in West
Virginia has acquired the East Ohio Gas
Company from the Standard OIL Com
pany, making changes I'm return. The
Eastern Ohio owns three pipe lines from
West Virginia to the northwestern part
OF Ohio. where 100000 consumers are sup
piled with natural gas The Standard
owns practically 100000 acres Of gas
lands in West Virginia The Columbia
holds are divided into three tracts--22O. =
900 acres in the southwestern part OF
West Virginia, 10000 in Central West
Virginia, and 6O,SOO in Eastern West vir-
ginia.
This Is the company that will supply
natural gas TO Winchester when arrange
ments for the piping of the gas to that
point sre completed
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
LowndesviIIe NM Contemplated

Columbia. S. c.. July PA cotton mill
for Lowndesvlle is contemplated BY
Thomas c. Jackson, Of Iva, who Is inter
ested in q plan for the organization OF a
company there The people OF Lowndes-
vile have subscribed $4,000 towards a
$4,000 enterprise. Mr.. Jackson
is an experienced man. being manager
Of the Jackson Mills. a 2l,OO0-spindle and
Saloon plant at Iva
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
Two Knitting MIL Planned.

knitting mills are in immediate prospect
for North Carolina. A charter has just
been issued TO the Dixie Knitting Mills
Company to erect a plant at Fores City.
The capital Of the company is TO be
$4,000, and $4,000 has already been sub
scribed by c. A. WilSie, w. v Hicks,
G. P. Reid. and W. c. Bostic. The other
mill is being promoted by George A.
Smith, Of Tyron. where It viii be located.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
New Inman MIL Being Equipped.

Columbia, s. c.. July A.-EquIpment IS
arriving and being installed In the new
factory Of the Imam Mills, just COM
pIeted. The structure is IS by 27 feet.
and will contain 1850 spindles and 24O
looms for the manufacture Of sheeung.
The total outlay will be about $780,
At present the plant operates 1924 spin
dies and SEQ looms
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

The manufacture OF fuel briquettes from
slack coal Is a large and increasing In
dustry In Belfast, Ireland. The ma
chinery used is OF English manufacture,
and IS patented, but there Is no patent on
the process employed. The material Is
clean slack coal. combined with from to
10 per cent OF pitch. These are mixed BY
mechanical means. and the mixture "a
orator
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
Abbeville COTTON Min Proiect.

Columbia s. c.. July 24-Subscriptions
to the amount Of $4,000 have been raised
toward the proposed 100000 cotton con-
Germ for Abbeville. The organization is
now under consideration. A 5,OO0-spind!e
and 150-loom factory for the production
Of cloth viii probably be established. J.
Allen Smith is the leading promoter.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

Several agricultural States are making
special effort to develop agriculture and
increase the output Of honey and wax
to an export point The home consump-
ton is rapidly increasing.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

Charlotte. N. c.. July 24.-Work has
been started by the Ivey Cotton Mil Com
pany on its new plant in West Hickory.
The concern will double the buildings,
machines. and number Of operatives.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
TABLE SHOWING SOUTHERN PROGRESS.

CExeIudiug and
Derived
other official
oOs............ Population recommendations
2s22s.......... ...........5212ls
s71ssOOo. expenditures
ssO44Oos. implements .s1s492s1s
4s52al7 Cotton
manufactures
bushels
crop
7SfS917 pounds Tobacco
s52sOoOOO
1886 Pig iron 2l4S2eo
s2972O7
.272ssOOO
.s4s448952
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

OF the 1888 fires which occurred in Lon
don In 1908. electricity is said 10 have been
the cause OF lOl, and 255 were attributed
TO gas
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
De SOTO COUNTY
GROWING RAPIDLY
Arcadia, County Seat, Seems
Appropriately Named.
CENTER FOR CITRUS FRUITS

Vemi-troDicnI Forests and Early Veg
etables Give Farmers Good Returns
in that Part of FIOrida-Lumber
and Stock-raising Important In
dustries-FactOries Get start.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25
DENIES YARD CLAIM
Interior Department Will
Save California Timber.
PIERCE RENDERS DECISION

Alleged Fictitious Occupation of
Mining Lands by North Carolina
Company Declared Contrary to
Lav-HistOry of Case and Argu-
ments Presented by Both Sides.
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

Authorities Of Ben Hill County. Ca.
will lay the corner stone OF the new
courthouse at Fitzgerald on July IS. The
exercises will be OF an interesting and
elaborate character. The third Masonic
district convention Of the Masonic fra
ternity will convene in Fitzgerald on the
same day
The Washington herald., 1909-07-25

Excluding Missouri oklahoma)
other official
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1909-02-11
Laces & Embroiderie:


Remnants of Torchon Laces;
S S E Is: i o" H 's;si'''s 6 lAc
Dress Nets, yards wide, in
white, butter and arabe M
color Regular SOC ZVC
Lace Bands, in Persian 7l/
designs. Sold regularly at I%C
12l.c yard. -
!; s: :ss:: .n5 M s;s 1910
Wide Shrtwaist Band
ings. sold regularly at NN/
Remnant lot of Cambria Corset
Cover Embroidery; IS inches g.
wide Regular &c value II Dc
at
Match sets OF Swiss and Main
sock E,mbroideries; in OH
baby patterns. Regular SA%C
19c value for. .............. L.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1909-02-11
SURVEYS FOR A new CONDUIT
COMPLETION OF FIELD WORK OF
THE ENGINEERS.
Maj. Morrow Reports on Prepara-
tions to Increase Water Supply.
Free Of Typhoid Germs.

Maj. Morrow. the engineer officer in
charge of the District water supply sys-
tenn. has reported to Gen. Marshall, chief
of engineers, the completion of all field
work and the plotting of field notes i'm
connection with the recent surveys and
investigations looking to an increase OF
the water supply. The act of Congress
approved June 80. 1908, appropriated $40
Oou for that work and ii is probable that
the report of the engineers will be ready
for submission to Congress at its next
regular session beginning in December
next.
The various propositions for increa sing
the supply says Mai. Morrow. have
been considered and all those that are
obviously impractcable have been elm
mated from consideration. Those that
are feasible have been blocked out in 4
preliminary way and progress has been
made upon studies for design"
Free From Typhoid Germs.
Regarding the character Of the water
supplied to the residents Of the District
during the month OF January last, Maj.
Morrow says:
With the exception Of few days be-
tween the 18th and Goth, the turbdity OF
the water at Great Falls and in the sew
eral reservoirs was low for the entire
month
THE filtered water was much better i'm
that respect than for any corresponding
month since the plant was put into serr-
ice. The bacterial contents of the river
water were higher than for any month
since February. 1905. The efficiency OF
the plant was SO high, however, that the
average number of bacteria In the filter
ed water for the month was only thirty
one per cubic centimeter, while for the
corresponding month of last year il was
1!,. OF Isl ten and one cubic centimeter
samples of water from the filtered water
reservoir and from taps in various parts
of the District tested for the presence
of colon bacillus typhoid germ1 none
gave positive results. The total cost Of
i. filtration for the month was $4.lS per
million gallons of water filtered. which
was $o.t3 more than for last month. Tie
increase in cost was due to the fact
that more bills for supplies were paid
than usual. The average quantity OF
water pumped to the filters per day vas
57.1oU,O00 gallons or 10000 gallons less
than for last MONTH.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1909-02-11
HIS FROZEN BODY FOUND.
Young Man Said he Was "LivinE
as Jesus Lived"

BELLEFONTAINE. Ohio, February II.
Il am living as Jesus lived" SO said
a courteous young man who walked
through the big Four" depot here three
days ago offering figs and dates to the
crowd in the waiting ROOM
Later he purchased a ticket to Nation.
Ill, and dispatched a telegram to Mrs
L. II. Fitzgerald. Vallejo. Cal. signing
it r. A. Graham.
Railroad officials here have received
word from Tower Hill. a little town out
side Mattoon, stating that "Grahams"
unclad body had been found near there
frozen.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1909-02-11
TAFT'S SON HoNoRED.
Elected to Membership in Greek
Letter Society Of Yale.

Special Dispatch 10 The Star.
NEW HAVEN, Conn, February H.
William H. Taft will arrive in New Or
leans just in time to learn that his
Oldest son. Robert Alphonso, had been
received into Phi Beta Kappa, the schol-
arship society of Yale.
The President-elect has sent word that
he will try to come here next month
when his son is initiated. although the
exercises will consist OF nothing but
banquet with incidental speechmakins.
The list of Yale Phi Beta men includes
the twenty seven leaders In scholarship
of the class of 1910. AS young Taft has
led his class in scholarship for most OF
his course ii has been certain from his
entrance to college that he would be
elected
The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1909-01-07
HAARER WOULD
BUY ASPHALT NOW
WANTS AUTHORITY TO PUR-
CHASE 500 TONS TO PREVENT
POSSIBLE SHORTAGE LATER.

Just to make sure that the turbulent
Venezuelans do not get into any more
battles and otherwise obstruct COM
merce and delay the shipment OF as
phalt, Commissioner Haarer, OF the de-
partment OF public works, who has
Just returned from an eastern trip.
will recommend 10 the council that he
be authorized to lay in supply of 500
tons of asphalt now.
THAT will be enough TO run our
municipal plant until July says
Haarer. and we ought to be able TO
get more asphalt then, no matter how
the Venczuelans settle things. Pros
poets are that asphalt will be no
cheaper. although Gomez, the new
president, is considered more favor
able to the American interests than
was Castro
AT present, the government of that
country digs the asphalt and sells 1t
ut the dock and their machinery Is old
and unsatisfactory. There Is deal
on now for the Americans To get the
asphalt direct and pay the government
a royalty"
Haarer stopped in Cleveland, Pitts
burg, philadelphia and New York and
looked into paving matters In eacn
place. He believes that Detroit will
have more bidders for the annual brick
contract and this may mean cheaper
prices. As TO the advisability OF a
municipal creosoting plant, the com
missioner is still somewhat uncertain,
the figures that have come to him be-
ing somewhat unsatisfactory as yet.