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The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Y. NJ. c. 4. CORRECTS
WRONG IMPRESSION
Decision in Recent Debate Mis-
construed by Both Writers
and Speakers.

By the slight misinterpretatiOn Of de-
cision following a debate at the Y. NJ
c. A. on the second Sunday of NOvem-
Der. a controversy has arisen and it re-
mains for George Z. Goodwin, who pre-
sided over the debate, TO explain the mis-
understanding. On the morning following
the debate, it was reported that vote
had been made in the affirmative on the
question. Resolved, that the average
man can be a Christian without being a
member of church
The decision was mentioned in 8 ser
mon delivered at the tabernacle by
Nephi L. Morris, following an editorial
comment in the Inter-MOuntain Catholic
and was discussed at some length. The
editorial took a radical view.
Mr.. Goodwin, in a letter TO ]. Gustav
White, says;
1.-The question debated was thus stated !.
Resolved, that the average man can be
a Christian without being a member of a
church. In summing up the result of tins
argument, which 1 did by request, 1
stated that 1 interpreted the word can In
the question as expressing the pOSSlDu-
ity only, and with that understanding L
stated that L thought the weight of the
argument. as also the fact, was in favor
of tine affirmative. With this under
standing of the meaning of the question
the vote was taken and resulted in quite
large majority IN favor 81 the atErlna-
tive, In my remarks, however, 1 stated
my very positive conviction that toe av-
erage man would be more likely to DO
and remain a Christian. and a much bet
ter and more efficient enc Ey beng q
church member.
In a letter issued by the association, it
is stated that the decision IN the debate
can be in no way taken as expressing the
trend Of thought or principle of the ASSOC
citation, the expression Of the audience
citation is in no way Involved and N 10
way responsible.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
CAMPAIG NOW ON
SEEKING MEMBERS
Commercial Club Has Long
List of New Timber AL
ready Spotted.

It won't be any tag day" nor viii
it be a game Of hide and SEX, but
something like 500 business men, in
the various walks of trade. CONNER
ciaIism and the professions, are go
ing 20 be marked with the you're it,
sign before January I, 1910.
This list Of 500 will be handed over
to the chairman of the member
ship committee of the Commercial club
today noon by Secretary Joseph Z.
Game and every name on the list viii
be marked as prospective member or
the Commercial club. At the same
time a plan of campaign viii be
mapped out to land every one OF these
prospective members on the rolls be-
The ambition Of the Commercial
club for the next few weeks, at least,
is to have a total membership of 1000
by January /. With this in view the
membership committee will meet to-
day to devise the best means of attain
needed to mark the thousand number
on the membership roll, but in order
to make sure Secretary Game has list
ed off 500 business and professional
men of Salt Lake who ought to be,
but are not at present, members of
the club. After the membership COM
mlttee meeting of today each of these
800 whose names are withheld, how
ever, may be expected to be waited
upon by a committee from the Com
mercial club and the opportunity viii
be offered Of saving $50 by entering
the ranks Of Salt Lake boosters now.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
ACCIDENT CAUSES DEATH
William w. RiVes Passes Away at
Home Of His Son in
Salt Lake.

William w. Bives. the father Of City
Recorder-elect Ben s. Rives, died at TIE
home Of ms son, j. II. Rives, Ala Sixth
East street yesterday morning. from an
attack OF paralysis, brought on by an in
jury received in a street car accident dur
ing the time OF the state fair. Mr.. Rives
met with painful injuries in this acct
uehL put MS condition was not regarded
as serious until about THANKSGIVING Gay,
when he was seized with paralysis.
MI RlVeS, VINO was born near Rocky
Mount Franklin County, Va in 1884, was
"a desc Luaut on the HuguenOt family cd
the same name, who during the period of
the French commune took refuge in Eng
iand. and later came to the United States
settling in Virginia.
IN the civil war Mr.. Rives served as a
member OF the Confederate army In Com
pany H. Tenth Virginia cavalry, and af-
Ter the war was elected sheriff of Frank
this, Mr.. Rives and his family moved To
Paris, H. and ia 1879 moved again ia
Colorado. The family came to Utah i'm
lS9J, where they have been living since
Mr.. RiVes was elected mayor of Narys-
vile, Col, in 1881.
Mr.. HlVes is survived by five sons. Jo-
seph H. Rives and Ben s. Rives Of Salt
Lake. w. j. Rives OF AIonuOse, Colo; r.
J. Rives Of Caueute, New, and c. Z.
Rives Of Los Angeles. Arrangements for
the funeral have not been completed. ow-
Ing to the delay in the arrival of r. T..
Rives of Caliente, who is a conductor on
the salt Lake Route, and who is ex-
pected TO arrive today. Ben S. Rives said
last night that another Of the brothers.
Z. Z. Rives. of Los Angeles, was unable
70 come. All of the other members Of the
Iainlly viii De present and announce
ment of the funeral arrangements will be
given later, The burial will be in the
1dInlIy plot N MI OlNeT cemetery.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
A SALTLAKE BOOSTER

S a consistent booster for Salt
n Lake, Adiutant General L. A.
~ Wedgw9Od has given a large
part OF his time for the last
twenty years to the city, state and ma
ton, and this work is marked an
through by results accomplished. AS
captain of the Utah battery in the
Spanish war, General WedgwoOd food
a the head of the most important and
active volunteer organization during
the war, which won international fame
for Utah. Later Il was General Wedg-
wood who took hold of the Utah Ma
tiOnal Guard when 1t had been torn
to shreds by internal disSensiOn and
outside attacks, and the present high
standard of the citizen soidiery of the
state is due in large measure to his
unseltish devotion and untiring energy
as adjutant general
Entering the service at the begin
ming or the war as captain of a Provo
company, he was advanced to captain
of Battery r, which saw more actual
service on the firing line than any
other volunteer organization in the
war. From February 4, when the bat
terry went to the firing line, until the
end of the following June, General
WedgWOOd was on duty continuously,
and it was due largely to his efficient
handling Of the Utah battery that it
was able to make its great record in
the Philippines. In his work in the
Utah National Guard General Wedg-
wood has brought the state organiza-
ton up to the required standard, but
his interest has been in raising the ef-
ficiency of the guard rather than in
creasing its numbers.
General WedgwOOd is a member Of
the firm of Thurman, WedgwoOd &
Irvine and with his increasing law
practice the time he is giving to the
National Guard of Utah is regarded as
most unselfish sacrifice to the in
terests of the state
"The rapid growth of Salt Lake in
the last few years and the certainty of
a continuance Of this advancement is
no surprise to those who have studied
conditions" said General WedgwOod
yesterday. 1--WE are bound to grow to
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
ELECTRICIANS meet.
Standardization of Electric Lighting
Systems for Trains is
Discussed.

What viii undoubtedly result in the
adoption of uniform Equipment IN the el c.
trio lighting Of trains on all Hartman
lines was a meeting held at the Knuts-
ford hotel last night This meeting was
attended by railway electrical engineers
from different Hartman lines throughout
the west and middle west, and was con-
Quoted by Z. NJ. Cutting of Oakland, Cal,
who is president of the railway electrical
engineers, and high in the employ of the
Southern Pacific railroad.
More than a dozen electrical engineers
attended the meeting last night Other
meetings of equal Importance were held
yesterday and will be held during today.
The result of these meetings will be the
recommendation that the Hartman lines
adopt q uniform system of lighting, using
standard equipment so that iuterChangea-
bic cars may be switched TO any line and
attached to any train and yet contain
connections that will fit wherever the car
is to be used.
These recommendations will be made to
the railroads of the Hartman system and
later an effort will be made to have the
equipment on all lines uniform.
These railway engineers have come
from various parts of the country and
there are also a number of supply men
on the ground ready to advance their par
Ucular form Of electrical appliance as
the standard.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
MAIL GOES UNDER
BRICK OR BOTTLE.
"HO0k Worm" Wouldn't
SneeZe at Mail Carriers
Job in Holiday Season.

Any mail carriers job is a tough ona
in salt Lake In fact, 1T is so almighty
tough that the United States government
Is all worked up about it and you may
know that it takes something like a soul
killer TO work Up the United States gov
eminent.
Look at the poor mail carrier" says
the government. All his kuuckles are
worn raw knocking at so many doors.
Besides Uamplng from so TO 100 miles a
day. ne uses up $500 pounds Of energy
punching door bells and wastes five
hours day waiting for people to come.
Please give US mail box the Unite
ed states continues, "It every family
had a mail box the mail carriers lie
would be one rosy round of pleasure. His
step would be light as a customs house
scales ana MS face would raliate happi-
ness even as an unmOlested sugar trust
The truth of the matter is that the mail
man job in salt Lake is something the
hook worm wouldn't sneeze at. out iu
the suburbs where the mail box is q rar-
lty, the mail carrier slips the letters uu-
der milk bottle, or tenderly covers them
with a piece of brick or piece of sewer
pipe. These things are always at hand
In the suburbs. But down i'm the more
settled district, 1t Is necessary 20
rims the bell and wait for the woman
Of the house to set the apple sauce off
the lire and turn the steak before she
opens the door
1t is said that recently a woman on West
South Temple street discovered a mail
carrier asleep on a doorstep. 1t wasn't
mis- fault She was cleaning the attic
when ~ rang the bell. Faithful 10 the
last he stuck TO his post. She didn't
come The day wore into evening and
q sudden desire to visit naighb1r
brought the woman forth. There sla
found the mail man. and he STAYED until
he had delivered two monthly statements
and a clothing advertisement.
Occasionally carrier attempts TO make
up lost time by slipping a letter under
a screen but this is frequently disas-
TOus, and more than once the weary dis
tribut0r of other peoples sorr0Ws and JOYS
finds himself chasing skidding letters ana
papers all over the face of the surround
ing landscape
The government is peevish about it.
Time and money might be saved by the
mail boxes. and particularly in the h0li-
day season, when the carriers work is
doubled and trebied, that mail box would
make his anticipation Of Christmas all
most the same as that of any other Amer
lean white man.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
ROYAL ARCH ELECTION.
Saloon Men Name OfHcers for Their
Organization for Next Year.

The annual election of officers took
place at the regular weekly meeting of
the Knights of the Royal Arch last night.
The officers elected are as follows:
Valiant commander. Charles T. Muir
ply; lieutenant commander, J. w FL
lott; treasurer, Adam Snyder; orator
Sig Simon; recorder, F. II. Stewart; mas
ter Of ceremonies, Ike Bernstein; captain
of the guard. Albert Swain: tyler Julius
Gauer; trustees, George A. Whitaker
Emil Lehman, George Strickley, J. W
CahOon and c. IT. Reilly.
These officers will be installed at the
Meeting the first Tuesday in January.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
WRIT OF CERTIORARl
IN GOVERNMENT CASE

A writ of certiorari viii be asked
OF the attorney general in the case of
the United states against the Union
roads and railroad and coal COMPANY
officials, known as the J. D. sharp
case, which was decided in favor Of
the defendants on appeal to the cir
cult court District Attorney Hiram
j. Booth believes that the action Of
the railroads in restraint of trade can
be proven.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
COUNCIL MARKS TINE
No Committee Reports Presented
and Session Is Shortest in
Many Years.

The shortest council session in years
was held last night when the members
jumped through petitions, departmental
reports and committee reports in Just
tWenty-seven minutes by the clock and
then adjourned. There was nothing Of
Importance considered and barely a
quorum was present to transact what lit
tie business came up.
Owing to the fact that there were no
committee meetings last Thursday night,
no committee reports came before the
council. The report of City Engineer
George o. Clancy on the protests on
sewer extension No. go went to the san
itary committee and the prOtestants viii
be heard Thursday night if they care to
continue their fight before the council
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
WEDGWOOD CAMP ELECTS
Spanish War Veterans Name Officers
and Plan Social for In
stallation.

Z. A. WedgWood camp No. 1. Span
ish War Veterans, met last night at L
O. o. 4. hall, the main business of the
night being the annual election of Of
ficers for 1910. They are as follows.
Commander, II. G. Granger; senior vice
commander, C. G.. Forslund; junior vice
commander, j. il. Ball; chaplain, Elmer
Johnson; officer of the day, Robert
Reid; officer of the guard, T. H. Cal
lagher. Ned Price, Elmer Johnson and
A. n. Jarvis were elected trustees.
The installation Of officers viii take
place at the next meeting. to be held
in l. o. O. +. hall on the first Tuesday
i'm January at which time the organi-
ZatiOn of the ladies' auxiliary viii be
perfected and a social with a program
of entertainment, details of which have
not as yet been decided on, followed by
refreshments, viii be held.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
KENTUCKlAN LIKES UTAH.
Former Pension Commissioner Is
Enthusiastic over Salt Lake.

Il have been looking over this west
ern country and there is no city whose
future appeals to me as strongly as
that of Salt Lake. The growth of Los
Angeles has been marvellous, and
can't see Why, although that city has
a delightful climate. But I think salt
Lake is the coming city of the West
and in ten years from now will be
away ahead of any Of them"
This is the statement made last
night at the Knutsford by z. W. Mar
tin Of COvingtOn, Ky, who was for
several years commissioner of pen
sions for Ohio and Kentucky Mr..
Martin is also a newspaper man, hav-
ing owned several Kentucky papers.
He is interested in various enterprises,
but wants to get into the atmosphere
Of the West, and is considering sever
al propositions that appeal to him.
Mrs Martin is with him and they will
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
WHEELS AGAIN
DRAW MANY DEV0TEES

That roller skating is popular win
ter amusement i'm Salt Lake City was at
tested Tuesday night. when more than
a thousand devOtees of the 'Iittfe
wheels attended the opening OF the 1909
10 season at the Auditorium rink on Rich
ards street. The building was packed al
most to it's CapaCity
Among the features were the grand
march at $3.50 and the drawing for prizes.
One of the winners last night was Mrs
A. Clayton of this city.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
AGENTS ARE REASSURED.
Phenix Insurance Co. of Brooklyn
Sees Better Times After Storm.

Stowe & Palmer, who are agents in
Salt Lake for the Phenix Insurance
company of Brooklyn, about which a
scandal broke Monday, received two
kilograms from headquarters yester-
day TO the effect that the company
would ride through the affair with
flying cOlOrs and be stronger and bet
ter than ever when il is all over. The
messages informed the agents to tell
pOlicyholders not to be alarmed.
The statement that Z. Z. Risky is
agent for the Phenix was erroneous.
He is agent for the Phoenix company
Of Hartford, Conn., an entirely differ
ent concern.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
HUMANE OFFICER is BUSY.
Enforcing Regulation Regarding Pro-
per Shoes for Slippery Weather.

A s. Kendall, humane officer, has
adopted a novel scheme in forcing the
proper shoeing Of horses used on the
slippery asphalt pavement downtown. He
has found a good many men driving
horses with uncal6ed shoes, with the re
suit that the animals slip and slide
around on smooth parts Of the pavement,
and in some instances fall and narrowly
escape serious injury.
During the last day OF two he has
adopted the practice of examining the
shoes of horses on the streets and if they
are not calzed he has forced drivers to
go with him to a h0reshoeTs for proper
shoes, meanwhile leaving the wagons in
the street.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Clothing sale at Desky's.
Furnlehed House for Rent.

Six-room brick bungalow with bath,
on northeast bench. Two car lines.
Furnace, hot water, cement basement
and laundry with stationary tubs, gas,
electric lights. All modern. Cheap rent
to right parties. Address H 6, Herald
Republican.
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s22.5o Goats at $500.

OF good quality broadcloth, Sc inches
long, satin lined throughout, black and
all colors. At the Sample Cloak & Suit
store, 80 South Main St OPP. the z
c. Nj. L
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

We are showing the largest line Of
picture frames and mouldings in the
for less money.
1Iidgley- Bodel Co. 80 E. First South.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Like Their Investment.

81 wish thai more men Of the east who
have money to invest would catch the
spirit. Salt Lake is a profitable field and
1t is sound. / know that If they realized
the true situation out here there would be
more outside money coming into salt
Lake"
Mr.. Resented said that, aside from
noting the condition of the property in
which the Euitable is interested, his mis-
sion here is not for investment purposes,
You have two fine office buildings
ing TO move into either the Newhouse or
Boston buildings, In Chicago we have
been moving around and nowhere have
we found quarters any better than in
these two buildings in Salt Lake"
Mr.. kOsenfeld has been inspecting Of
fices on the coast and through the west
generally, and he finds everything i'm tip
TOP shape. He lodged questions as to
the probable effect upon Equitable policy
OF the recent purchase OF control u
STOCK made by j. PIerpOnt Morgan.
Aside from the appointment of Mr.
Moreton as special representative of the
Equitable, Mr. ROsenfel announces the
appointment of Charles r. Kutnewsxv as
agency superintendent of the states in
The Rocky Mountain group. Mr.. Kut-
neWsky, who was formerly connected
with the Equitable, has recently been
with the Continental Life Insurance COM
pany. IL. A. Kicker, who has been con-
nected with the Equitable office at Dead
agency manager for Utah.
Mr. Moreton has been connected with
the Equitable for over a year. and IFS
appointment IS an important event i'm in
surance circles. The force in the local
office VIII be materially inCreasec.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

Tailored sample suits (no two aiike),
at the Sample Cloak & Suit Store, IS
South Main st. OPP. the z. c. IL. 1.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
s2f.75 for s3s-on and go nn

Tribune-Rsporter Printing Co.,
&c West Second South. Phones 71s
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

A private safe may De rented IN the
fire and burglar proof vault of the SaIl
Lake Security & Trust Co. 80 up Main
street, $500 per year and upwards.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Satisfactory Interest

The person who has idle funds
wishes to deposit the money
where it viii earn a satisfac-
tory rate of interest. Our Sc
cured Certificates yield 6 per
cent per annum, payable semi
annually. The safety Of these
Certificates is doubly assured
by reason Of the Capital and
surplus of the Salt Lake Sc
curity & Trust Company,
amounting to $4OO,0OO.OO, and
by First Mortgages on Salt
Lake real estate.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Pieture FAMINE.

Highest price paid for strictly fresh
eggs THE ROYAL CAFE.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

Do you Kodak We finish and also sell
the suppiies1 salt Lake Photo supply
Co.. Ia Main street.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
Removal Sale.

Big reductions in wall paper and
framed pictures before moving to our
elegant new store.
GEO. W. EBERT & co, 81 Main st.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
PLEA CHANGED TOO LATE.
Edward Smith Fails in Attempt to
Make Certain a Light Sentence.

ct is too late to change your plea, your
case is bound over to the district court,
said Judge j. NJ. Bowman in police court,
yesterday morning. when Edward Smith,
accused Of having entered room 800 in
the Wellington hotel bent upon the rob
berry of clothing. asked that he might
plead guilty instead Of not guilty and Sc
cure six months i'm the county Jail. Smith
was arrested November 8.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

SAT- Lake Photo supply Co. III Main 81.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08
.RoyaIII Sac Rread pepet

open 8 to p. m. daily. Entrance on
Third South. Good bread very cheap.
The Salt Lake herald-Republican. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1909-1918, 1909-12-08

PIumes cleaned and curled. College
Millinery Paricrs. Sl Tribune BLDG
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Kodak Finishing.

Clothing sale at Desky's.