The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1909-05-01
SCORES
LIQUOR TRAFFIC
Mayor Rose, Who Debates Question
With Him, Denounoes Prohibition
lists As "Tipplsrs."

CHICAGO. May DIR. Samuel
Dickie. OF Albion. Mich. and Mayor
David A. Rose. OF Milwaukee. met last
night In the second debate OF their
series OF three on the national prohi
bition question. The debate. which
took place In local hall. was attend
cd by large crowd. II has not been
decided where or when the third de-
bate will take place.
+ In last nights discussion DIR. Dickie
contended that prohibition is right be-
cause OF SIX unique and peculiar ele-
ments that attach 10 the trafHc In In,
toxicating beverages. He said:
What does the saloon do for the
reputation OF It's patron? To ask the
question Is TO put the answer into ev.
rybody's mouth. Let IL be known
that a young man is a freQuenter OF
the saloons and at once that young
mans reputation suffers In the esteem
OF all risht-minded men. The saloon
blasts and blishts and ruins the good
name OF any man who will spend his
money at the bar
What does the liquor business do
for the health and long life OF its
patron! MOST OF US can answer this
inquiry out OF our own observation,
Tor We have seen health ruined and
lives shortened by the use OF alcoholic
liquors.
What does the saloon do for its
patron In opening or closing doors OF
opportunity! | could occupy my en-
tire time In citing instances and read.
Ing rules OF railroad companies. steam.
ship lines. manufacturing concerns
and commercial houses utterly exclud.
ing from positions OF trust and profit
all who are the patrons OF the LIQUOR
traffic. could show you that the I'm.
temperate lawyer, the intemperate
physician, the Incorporate business
man are on the toboggan slide and
tnat ends. and ends early. In disgrace
and ruin.
Says Saloon Desrades.
What does the saloon do for it's
patron In the way of promoting or de.
creasing his efficiency as a workman
with either hand or head? The an.
swer Is so obvious and the time SO
short leave the inquiry without dis
cussion.
What does the saloon do for the
character or It's patron? Who dares
TO say that the saloon does arsht but
degrade and bestialize and curse and
corrupt and damn forever all who
yleid themselves to its pernicious DOW.
err? ~"
Inc liquor traffic seems to- set the
brand or Cain upon all who engage
In II.
There Is black mark on the Iiouor
dealer He Is the foul bird OF our
social fabric and must flock by him.
self or live the solitary life.
The fourth pecultarity OF this very
peculiar trafflc Is its method OF de.
tense. II must be admitted by friend
and foe alike that the LIQUOR traffic
Is now on the defensive. Quite likely
the saloon apologists sometimes tel
the truth about certain claims they
make. but l am far within the limit
OF safety when say that large ma
Jority OF the defense are deliberate
and cold-blooded falsehoods.
We come now to ask who are the
defenders OF the saloon? Speaking
broadly and admitting an occasional
exception you-Mill find aFfayetI
against II the ministers, the white rib
bon women. the Y. NJ. c. A. workers
the Sunday school teachers, the col
lege professors. the church members
the best OF our business and profes
sional men, and in general, the educa
ton, culture and refinement OF oul
citizenship.
ION the other side. supporting the
saloon. besprinkled all too freely with
gentlemen OF eminent responsibility
you will hnd a group controlled anc
dominated by distillers and brewers
and saloonkeepers and bartenders. and
TO which thieves and thugs and gamb
lers and harlots give their loyal sup
port.
"One OF the most dangerous iniu
ences exerted by the liquor traffi'
grows out OF its disposition and abil
| ity To NEEDLE with politics: On Nov
liz. 1862, the United States Brewers
association held its first congress In
the city OF New York.
Civil liberty and the liquor traffic
are engaged today. as never before
in a death struggle. II Is the last
great desperate battle. am not here
with blanched cheek and quaverina
voice and trembling limbs to tell yor
that one or the other must go down
I am here with my feet on the solid
rock of the constitution, with my front
to the foe and my eyes on the stars
to tell you that civil liberty will live
and the saloon will die"
Rose Roasts Prohibition.
Mayer Rose said In part:
"Mr. Dickie asserts that. II every
drop OF intoxicating liquor now or
the whole earth were absolutely pour
ed out on the ground at this moment
there would be no less value In the
world after it's destruction than be
fore How perfectly absurd his state
ment and yet In perfect harmony with
TALL of his other theories.
IF that were done and none were
manufactured to take Its place there
would be q loss OF 223,000.000 OF
revenue to the government: loss Of
ss4. 500 900 to the cities OF the country
from licenses; loss OF $4,000. 00i
per year In wages paid to labor; loss
OF S109, 900. 900 for farmers products
and the loss OF the pleasure which
the Overwhelming majority OF those
who use these beverages ind In that
use.
The railway locomotive kills thous
ands: shall we prohibit the manufac'