The Detroit times., 1909-05-03
OICKIE SCORES
LIQUOR TRAFFIC
Mayor Rose, Who Debates Question
With Him, Denounces Prohibition.
ists As "Tipplers."

CHICAGO. May DIR. Samuel
Dickie. Of Albion. Mich. and Mayor
David A. Rose. OF Milwaukee. met last
night In the second debate OF their
series of three on the national prohi-
bition question. The debate. which
took place in local hall, was attend
ed By large crowd. II has not been
decided where or when the third de-
bate will take place.
In last nights discussion DR.. Dickie
contended that prohibition is right be-
cause OF six unique and peculiar ele-
ments that attach 10 the traftic In in
toxicating beverages. lie said:
What does the saloon do for the
reputation OF Its patron? To ask the
question is 10 put the answer into ev-
erybody's mouth. Let II be known
that young man is frequenter OF
the saloons and at once that young
mans reputation suffers In the esteem
OF all right-minded men. The saloon
blasts and blights and ruins the good
name OF any man who will spend his
money at the bar.
What does the liquor business do
for the health and long life OF It's
patron? Most Of us can answer this
inquiry out of our own observation.
for We have seen health ruined and
lives shortened by thNlse OF alcoholic
liquors.
What does the saloon do for its
patron in opening or closing doors OF
opportunity? could occupy my en-
IN atff
ing rules OF railroad companies, steam
ship lines. manufacturing concerns
and commercial houses utterly exclud-
Ing from positions of trust and profit
all who are the patrons OF the liquor
traffic. could show you that the in
temperate lawyer, the intemperate
physician. the Incorporate business
man, are on the toboggan slide and
that ends. and ends early. in disgrace
and ruin.
Says Saloon oegrades.
What does the saloon do for its
patron in the way of promoting or de.
creasing his efficiency as a workman
with either hand or head? The an.
swer is so obvious and the time 40
short leave the inquiry without dis
cussion.
what does the saloon do for the
character of it's patron? who aares
TO say that the saloon does arght but
degrade and bestiaiize and curse and
corrupt and damn forever all who
yield themselves TO its pernicious DOW.
err?
The liquor traffic seems to set the
brand or Cain upon all who engage
in IT,
There is black mark on the llouor
dealer. He is the foul bird OF cur
social fabric and must flock by him.
self or live the solitary life.
The fourth popularity of this very
peculiar traffic is it's method of de-
Tense. II must be admitted by friend
and foe alike that the LIQUOR traffic
Is now on the defensive Quite likely
the saloon apologists sometimes tell
the truth about certain claims they
make, but am far within the limit
of safety when say that large ma.
5ority OF the defense are deliberate
and cold-blooded falsehoods.
We come now TO ask who are the
defenders of the saloon Speaking
broadly and admitting an occasional
exception, you will find arrayed
against IL the ministers. the white rib.
bon women. the Y. NJ. C.. A. workers,
the Sunday school teachers. the col.
lege professors, the church members,
the best OF our business and profes.
SIGNAL men. and ih general, the educa.
tion, culture and refinement OF our
citizenship.
"On the other side. supporting the
saloon, besprinkled all too freely with
gentlemen OF eminent responsibility
you will find a group controlled and
dominated by distillers and brewers
and saloonkeepers and bartenders, and
to which thieves and thugs and gamb-
lers and harlots give their loyal sup
port.
"One OF the most dangerous infiu.
ences exerted by the liquor traffic
grows out OF its disposition and abil.
fly TO NEEDLE with politics. On Nov.
IL, 1862, the United States Brewers
association held its first congress in
the city OF New York.
Civil liberty and the liquor traffic
are engaged today. as never before.
In a death struggle II is the last
great desperate battle. am not here
with blanched cheek and quavering
voice and trembling limbs 10 tell you
that one or the other must go down.
| am here with my feet on the solid
rock OF the constitution. with my front
TO the foe and my eyes on the stars
10 tell YOU that civil liberty will live
and the saloon Will die
Rose Roasts Prohibition.
Mayor Rose said in part:
"Mr. Diclie asserts that II every
drop Of intoxicating liquor now on
the whole earth were absolutely pour
ed ont con the ground at this moment
there would be no less value In the
world after its destruction than BE-
fore How perfectly absurd his state
ment and yet in perfect harmony with
all of HIS other theories.
'Tf that were done and none were
TO take it's place there
would be a loss OF 1928 600. 900 OF
revenue to the government: a loss Of
Ss4 500 900 TO the cities OF the country
from licenses; a loss OF $50 900. 900
per year In wages paid to labor loss
Of S109, 900 900 for farmers products,
and the loss OF the pleasure which
the overwhelming majority Of those
who use these beverages find in that
use.
The railway locomotive kills thous.
ands: shall we prohibit the manufac-
.,ro ~ fooo,r,rtfroe0 Tho ontOy,nbilo-