New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-07
MRS THAW'SLAST WORD
cur Inns 1T STRAIGHT At
JEROME.
5attcr Has Liuely Tilt scith DIR.
Frons-MOrSchauSer to Sum
Up To-day.

,,s.,,er Harry X Thaw goes back 20 Mattea-
= ~ no, after Justice Mills renders his decision
ss T-,,,rssav Thaw's mother Mrs. Mary Copley
neA' an have the satisfaction or having said the
-, word in the present proceedings saving. OF
the final argument Of his counsel Charles
,s.ba,,ser to-day. While she exercised mat IN
,obIe privilege Of woman In the courtroom AT
white Plains yesterday District Attorney jerome
od quietly and without any show OF protest.
. Mrs Thaw's utterances We're marked by
.So,od criticisms OF his own conduct in the Thaw
case, -. .o.. Go r,-
,-.,,or n Evans. Of ''brainstorm" fame. faced him
a. their last bout. Experts who have been right
- - the ropes" at all the former mills between
-. SKILLED sdversaries were Of one mind that the
- v-as one OF the briskest and most entertaining
- Mr. Jerome first met the Morris Plains alien
=, az ,be floor OF the Criminal Courts Building,
=, or more years ago. II Was clean. straight
vsv .go 10 il" affair, with bets about even and
-, gallery looking on with mpartality.
on spnesranoes Mr.. Jerome gave away many
.,rds but that disadvantage was largely Offset
~ the Vigorous course Of preliminary training he
t.s undergone. Unhappy, the scrap was too
,-,of m hermit Of a clean cut decision, though NJ
.. ,oint rbe lawyer had the alieuist badly winded
- here were those who inclined 10 give the
svrard 10 the District Attorney on points
nv Evans had been the stand in an endeavor
"a explaia away the apparently divergent views
haSQ civ 10
kis nrvate report 10 Clifford W Hartridge. Thaw's
so-rner counsel. anu later the witness stand
rbsn Thaw was tried for killing stanford White
~ Jerome started the melee by asking
mfr. Expert do you think Governor Fort re-
..rred 10 YOU in his remarks about allenists thar
snneared in the morning papers,
II YOU want 10 iniulge in personalities par
r.s DR.. Evans. you cannot lead me into doing
nr Evans had declared he believed Thaw was
now rational when District Attorney Jerome
dashed on him a typewriter report IN which the
.nsrist had expressed his belief that Thaw was
,,san, not only when he killed White but when he
de his will and codicn. the day he married
Fvslyn Nesbit more than a year before the shoot
,Disnt YOU say" said Mr.. Jerome. looking over
the report that had been submitted by the alienist
"a Mr. Hartridge that during your visits 10 Thaw
N the TOmbs after the murder you noticed an in
voluntary shifting OF the eyes,"
The doctor, who had been squaring OF, so TO
sneak in his chair. retorted by saying: NO,
son't think so. ] think his eyes moved at the con-
tro OF will" Then he landed tap by saying, Il
think that is due 10 a typographical error OF the
typewriter, such as those that are made in your
Office"
The tan was gentle one and left little mark on
he District Attorney. who came back quickly
with the query why did you try 10 hide this
opnion?" holding up the report TO Hartridge
SAYS HIS ROOM WAS BEsIEGED.
The auenist struck out with a little more vigor
q, this saying We'll. you tried. Mr.. Jerome 10
70, one from me one like H. subpoena was
issued and my room at the Belmont was attacked
and somebody tried 10 get into H. ! don't know
who did it," he added challengingly.
Mr Jerome at took up the def and asked.
Did you try 10 be honest when YOU prepared all
these insanity notes for Hartridge?"
The alenist who was plainly nettled. flushed
and flung back the retort; Don't you think II IS a
little low ask such question:"
NO not OF you" said Mr.. Jerome who was now
ready for good in-hghting Il think It's a
perfectly fair question 10 put 10 you"
DR.. Evans. singing hot under this lab lost hts
balance for a moment and then tartly replied:
Wei I don't think a gentleman would ask any
such question"
Mr.. jerome did not pursue this line Of attack.
but then read clipping from a MorristoWn. y. J..
paper giving an account Of a talk insanity be-
fore the Young Mems Christian Association there
IN lsS. Or. Evans admitted he had given such a
talk
'Ddnt you say that 10 one could define in
Esnity'" asked Mr.. Jerome
There was wrath in the alienst's eye and voice
as he declared: There is no one who can define
Insanity to his own satisfaction. except yourself -
You never said. stated in this account Of
your lecture that insanity couldn't be defined. yet
you could 70 into courtroom and get 500 day
and lawyers"
DENIES REPORT OF SPEECH.
Nc. never said that and the reporter who
wrote II was sfterward driven out OF town fol
writing other false stuff"
Well" said Mr.. Jerome, Il have Information
from reliable sources that you made these state
nents"
Well, even you don't believe all the newspaper
tay about you. DO you?" retorted the doctor
guess we can agree on that. anyway" saiC
NJ Jerome. with a laugh.
DR. Evans declared he never believed Thaw had
paFsnoae and he didn't think so now. He stuck
" what he had said at the trials about Thaw''
mental condition AZ the time he killed White. but
thought he was perfectly sane now.
10 you really think soy prodded the Distric
Attorney
90" countered the alienist: and so would
soo II you were not connected with this case"
He denied that he had ever discussed Thawi
.1sseo perverted practices with Susan Merrill IN
O"iAh VINO testified that she had distributed larg'
Ems OF money 70 silence young girls who. sh'
hao been whipped by Thaw. He had been u
Merr1hs apartment only twice. and then IL
npany with Mr.. Hartridge or Mr. Peabody, h
'alo and had never talked with her alone
mere was disappointment in the courtroom whei
=. Jerome announced that he had no more ques
saying:
Ne'e' DOCTOR you have had better oppor
-S 10 study Mr.. Thaw than any other medica
connected with this case Has Mr. ThaV
49,, expressed 70 you al any time more extrem
80 80 N regard 10 the practices OF White thai
N'se he has expressed here in court?"
~ENiCATBD STORIES ABOUT WHITE
.ces-.+s The nrst three visits i paid 10 him h
seoensnated them perhaps more tban he has dor
Asle-that is, ! mean he dwell more vDon them >.
nave you ever heard him ooutena mora s,outI
= support Of these beliefs than he did bere ~, N
witness stand yesterday afternoon?"
no, sir There was no difference In ,ba, ros,e,
ee'seen hts attitude here ,es,erda,, 90 r.,