The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1909-08-07
DRAMATIC CLOSE
OF ThAW HEARING
Mother of Prisoner Declares Je-
rome Has Not Shown
Christian Spirit
Delmas Says He Never Qnibbled
About His Fee or De-
manded Increase


The submission of testimony in his
hearing before Justice Mills closed to-
day, and all that remains is the final
arguments of the attorneys. Justice
Mills will file his decision with the
county clerk Thursday, August IL.
Several possibilities confront Thaw.
The court may grant his plea and make
him absolutely free. 1t may decide
that he has not established his sanity
and refuse to interfere, in which case
the state authorities will probably send
him back to Matteawan hospital for
the criminal insane.
MAY PAROLE THAW
But Justice Mills has further discre-
tionary powers. He may feel that
Thaw's mental condition is still in
doubt and for that reason delay a final
order, meanwhile paroling Thaw in the
custody of some officer or possibly on
his own recognizance in the care of
his family. Or he may declare Thaw
insane, but, moved by his mothers
complaint regarding his surroundings
at Matteawan, send him to some other
state hospital not peopled with Grim
inals.
Thaw left the courtroom with
jaunty step. The strain of the last
four weeks, during which he has sub
mitted personally to ID hours of cross
examination, was not apparent. At no
time has he expressed anything but
satisfaction with the results and con-
fidence in the success of his case.
DRAMATIC OUTBURsT BY MOTHER
The evidence presented in behalf of
Thaw closed with dramatic outburst
by his mother, Mrs. Mary Copley Thaw.
Her last words were a denunciation
of District Attorney Jerome. Earlier
in the day she had read a list of names
distinguished in New York society.
They were guests, she said, at din
ner she gave in New York which Harry
attended before his marriage.
The list included Mrs. Van Rensselaer,
Cruger. Mr.. and Mrs. A. Townsend
Burden, Sir Bache and Lady Cunard.
Arthur Hadley. Lady Paget. Mr.. and
Mrs. William Jay Livingston. Mr.. and
Mrs. Oliver H P. Belmont, Mr.. and
Mrs. Robert Gerry. Mr.. and Mrs. j. j.
Aston and Henry Clews.
DENOUNCEs JEROME
Il brought in the names of those who
attended that dinner to my son" she
said, because of the statements of Mr..
Jerome regarding the company Harry
was accustomed to keep. / do not have
any especial enmity toward Mr.. Jerome.
but he certainly has not behaved in this
matter in gentlemanly way nor in
Christian way Mr.. Jerome always
talked about Harry being frequenter
of the tenderloin, when he knows as
well as any one that my boy never went
to the tenderloin until he met certain
person"
Mrs. Thaw's testimony was frequent
ly interrupted by sobbing as she de-
scribed Harrys surrounding at Mattea-
wan.
THAT place seemed to me like the
vestibule to the internal regions" she
said.
IN REGARD TO INSANITY
Mrs. Thaw produced a chart showing
EOS members of the family, including
every descendant of the prisoners great
grandfather. The paper was offered in
evidence. She named two cousins of
Harry-William and Harriet Thaw,
brother and sister-and said these were
the only cases Of insanity she had ever
known in the family. And they" she
said "got their insanity from their
mother" Two members of the Copley
family she said, We're epileptics.
The witness explained Harry's alleged
wild actions al the wedding of his sis
ter, Alice, to the earl of Yarmouth. She
denied that her son had thrown loving
cup out Of the window. The cup was
thrown out by some one else, she said
in pursuance of an English wedding
custom. Harry was very busy that day,
she said, looking after the luggage.
That's one of the thousands of stories
that were built UP out of distorted
facts"
PLAYED WITH DE k0yEN
Other tales supposed to illustrate
Thaws insanity were explained by his
mother. One about playing the piano
late at night resulted from the fact
that Reginald de Koven, the composer.
was the family guest and he and Harry
PLAYED until a. M, while the others
listened with great delight.
The principal new witness today was
Roger O'Mara, formerly chief of police
of Pittsburg. He corroporated the
stories about Stanford White. He said
he had been paid about $4,000.
The greater part of the day was de-
voted to a. examination of Thaw's
alienists. Jerome attacked the experts
with every device of the skilled cross
examiner He reused the ire of DIR.
Britton Evans by asking II he was
the subject of the denunciation of med
zeal expert witnesses delivered yester-
by Governor Franklin Fort of New
Jersey. DIR. Evans is superintendent OF
the New Jersey state insane hoSpllal at
Morris Plains.
The expert replied tnat ne uecilneo 10
go into personalities
DR.. Isham G.. Harris of the Pough-
keepsie state asylum also received
grilling. Both alienists stuck to their
assertion that whatever Thaw's mental
condition might have been when he
shot Stanford White, he was not sane.
They left the stand mistaken.
DELMAs MAKES DENIAL
Mrs. William Thaw testified yester-
day that she was told by one of the
lawyers on the eve of the opening of
the first trial that Delmas would drop
the case unless he was paid larger
fee, and. accordingly, she said, $4,000
was promised him instead of the SIS 900
before agreed upon.
Mrs. Thaw's statement Is most un-
warrantable and unjust" Delmas de-
clared, and in support of his position
he quoted a letter from Clifford W.
Hartridge who. he said, made all the
arrangements with the Thaws for his
employment in the case. The letter
stated that Mrs. Thaw knew that Dell
mas was to receive $4,000 and was a
party to the agreement in October, 1905.
JEALOUS MARYSVILLE
MAN ATTE MDTC cIfIrTnE