The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1909-07-15
Harry Thaw Also Told Her lie Was Not
Crazy When lie Shot White==Eyelyn
Answers Questions Reluctantly

White Plains. July 15-Evelyn Mes.
bit Thaw took the stand at the after.
noon session today In the hearing of
Harry K Thaw's mental condition
Mrs. Thaw appeared as a witness for
the state which is opposing the re
lease Of her husband from the Mat.
teawan asylum
Justice Mills ruled that Mrs Thaw
could answer the questions the state
desired to ask her regarding an al
legged threat to kill her made by Harry
Thaw during a conversation at Mat
teawan.
Mrs. Thaw asked If she could not
claim a privilege in refusing to answer
on the ground that to reply would tend
TO incrimiDate herself The court ruled
she could not, and Mrs Thaw when
asked if Thaw had made such a threat,
said.
Yes. he did"
was requested 10 answer was, did
Harry K Thaw say this to you, or this
in substance. I shall have to kill you
when | get out OF here?
Turning TO the court with tears in
her eyes, Mrs. Thaw said:
II don't want to answer that ques-
tion; It places me in terrible posi-
ton. My husband will refuse to sup
port me the minute l answer It, and /
Will incur his everlasting enmlty. l
know It. | am very much afraid to
answer it."
Il don't care how he has treated
me. she continued, II am still married
TO him and | do not want TO answer
IT,"
Justice Mills quietly instructed the
a long-drawn sigh:
Yes. he did"
Mr. Clark asked her to give Mr..
Thaw's exact words. He said:
II suppose | shall have to kill you
when ] get out of here" she replied.
Mrs. Thaw further testified that dur
ing the same conversation Harry
Thaw told her he was not crazy on
the night he shot Stanford White.
Il only missed him by minute on
the night before" the witness said her
husband told her
Thaw sat with his eyes intently up
on his wife as she testified, and shook
his head when she told of the treat.
On cross-examination, Mr. Mors-
causer had the witness identify num-
Der of letters. either written by Thaw
or herself. Mrs Thaw was almost
flippant as she answered the question
of her husband lawyer. AS one let
ter was handed to her. she read It,
smiled broadly, then blushed percept-
IDLY, and hid her face behind her palm
leaf fan. She caught her husbands
eye at this time. and he smiled back
and then hastily looked away,
Mrs. Thw was excused and Anthony
D Comstock was called,
White Plains July 15.-Dr. Otto
Meyer of New York was the fret wit.
ness In the Thaw hearing today, Mr..
Meyer testified that he saw Tbaw four
times in the White Plains iail on Oc'
tober s, 1908, and discussed with him
the episodes included in hypothetical
question. which the witness had pre-
pared, on which to base an opinion of
the prisoners sanity. On subsequent
visits TO the White Plains jail, and In
the Matteawan asylum. the physician
talked freely with Thaw. he said, and
got him to tell the story OF his boyhood
days DIR. Meyer related conyersa'
ton when Thaw told him he feared
he was going to nave typhoid fever
and suggested that his rooms at the
iail should be cooled off with twenty
tons of ice.
DR.. Meyer said he discussed music,
art. sociology and politics with Thaw' .
and in regard to the latter subject ,
Thaw laughingly remarked: i help !
ed to elect Jerome" The witness said
he approached the subject of insanity
with Thaw, and in this connection re-
ferred to crime.
Il asked him what the motives we're
which prompted him 10 shoot Stanford
White, and he said there were no I'M
proper motives
In answer to a question as to wnat
the effect or result of Whites death
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