New-York tribune., 1909-05-27

bot Taylor paid the money CVociferous applause
Mr. IeTome-f had supposed that the motives
which lay back Of this thing were an mo n9eS' po man
BELIEVED more sincerely than I did then that these
Bsamtine later did-not for fame for myself but ut
il looked 70 me as IT, II could orlnS nrca held
before me would be realized; and so took mem t9
their face value and apDoln}ed as S those
of staff George Sherman to investigate 'N'
charges brought bv Mr.. Amory. :. -ho-,es
George sherman had been educated IN GnarETs he
Hughess oceIhe Goyer2or .t Of # ne sfs ffafS by Mr
left him and was appointed eqe1 1pbi,bi IF had been
appointed District Attorney by TheQdoIe ~ FoTS tSat
time CApplause) George Sherman was an ecu b
Gated trained lawyer-so good awe EEtat ~ staff
bv Governor Hughes and his law partner 4e
ars1 until 6f The eHVernor of the state We found
we had TO have some expert acGiInning acGGum,ai and
inquired all around to if could fing n some MN in
absolutely dissoc"ted with the ky9n- ian tber9 and
f9pnd such a man on the recommendation Of one
n+ Him to- work on these matters. in which It vas vas
alleged that millions had been stolen as we 'aiN
"PTft Wbv the millions that Amory had piled up we're
n5ade u6 fbe capital stock of this COMPANY For
four months We worked on thls thng on there
might in these transactions there S MAS Teee SO
! reported, Sherman so reported to me- and did
| nothing more at that time ,.o.on. corornor
HUGHES That one of the CHARGES 6a fSe Charges
by Hand and he found not ohg 1t Ta5 mad not been
| proved. but had been disproved
MOTIVES BACK OF REPORT
Why the very reports that Talbot t1s Ta{Gr hig Ps5q Pasr
nerator the very reports that paid for and that
this man Amory brought to me- Ieee ana oL
! both of them came to when was inyestlga.4tn5
this thing subsequently and had neS 6neT %ItF ftat
nrononte9 these reports and their statements that
the reports cid not say the things' anu mT siTneS
Psn4ss 5sf iSsy 70 dd say the things that A%o'y s4
Hand saws in commenting on Teele-this account
tho 7
! recognized ability, and I forced the Metropouten
! Street Railway Company at that time to give me
| their hooks to give me inspection Of ther1; at
least and every book and paper PAPER tnat ma m 5ex a 9aq his
that he had not discovered any legal eVoehce WHICH
%oV, there CarSe a second investigation In Octo-
Der. 1907 Anthony n Brady was @ endngg kim nov
| Of onv the general Investigations the five special
IN detaii"but they are all covered in the Hand re-
port which vii be at y@rr oee TeFlSs Sed R3 cam read
there about those other five Investigations, II you
| desire to The investigation on Amorys charges
took about four months and cost the county. sup
! pose. in the neighborhood Of 81 900 49,. .aa
tye4 pTe4 II there in regard to the Wall & Cortlandt
| I knew nothing about until I came there and
People have said to NE hE} didat tt.s YOU T. find
| Company, that were afterward DESTROYED. wnen
! you had them?' There was a very good reason;
vas in the books of the Metropolitan Securities
! Company, which never were DESTROYED, which are
| WINS and his committee had had.
GENERAL TRACTION INVESTIGATION.
As soon as learned what was dene in October
there started upon a general inyestgatI2n o1 me
grand jury and began to take testimony on the
Of December I was engaged practically day and
night in the examination of those matters and IN
dence as to tho commission of crimes in these
that Noyemher grand Jury AnIhony NJ y brddg
! Thomas F. Ryan. Jacob n SchifI' J3rEls FSuI -.
MANY people say TO me: why did you call those
people? You will give them immunity; think
you did wrong in calling them. and the newspa-
pers have played that up That is absolutely false
In the first place YOU would not give them immg
nifty as matter OF Law" even II tney %eie ere mere
at all, because every one OF them Voluntarily ap-
Pound no one could have alleged a word against
that Indictment So that misrepresentation IS done
When We got on to Cravath on that examination
comSSeisd f SIis to give Testimony in regard to What
n s9d 5 5eG cor 10 h rsysb 9ni Pse t to es @ be
cause he said on that subject II was privileged
certfed the question to the court 70 Judge Rosa-
sky who was then PTesd1s a 9nd s5 a5Afa & hIm 20
up for advisement. do not mean that he held Il
up Pd an ntra9 PfSr 95en sE and nd aboey
afterward he rendered a decision that Cravath
BY that time We had got on January OF the
longer. and although I had spent three months
work on the thing they adjourned without taking
I then went before the, Supreme Court. and
paneled especially for the purpose OF investigating
traction That was granted to me. permission
have such grand jury. That grand jury was I'M
I drew presentment for that grand jury which
sentiment that grand jury said that they would be
sons % 0r their ATTORNEYS Whenever such persons
thought they had reliable Information to impart or
them to bring legal proof, but only well founded
information suggestions Of value that they the
They threw the door open TO every enemy-po-
litica personal and fnanGialuthat this traction
jury sat and took 2i4 pages Of testimony presented
sented by my enemies-by the traction crowd.
A large portion Of this taken up by the tes-
specifically outlining to grand jury the things
in regard to which he thought they should inquire
that these people had committed crimes The whole
charges against me appeared and made much elo-
Franklin Pierce their lawyer, appeared and told
them all about it Herbert Linburg. who had been
appointed by Jackson a special Deputy Attorney
in his political activities and who was engaged in
aSsy I5 In In e9grt suit P agaRSf sT ths
distinguished lawyer Of this city. man Of the
ton against these people he appeared and gave
them such information and suggestions as he had
SEEK MEN HIGHER UP
And then. last. but not least, William NJ WINS
appeared before them Mr. Wins. who perhaps had
a clearer and fuller knowledge Of these traction
subjects than any living being who had an0lyzed
them and turned them In and out. and whom Mr.
Amory s99sequenty sued & f9r the vauao,e assist
IN his testimony before the grand jury seemed TO
services rendered him by Mr.. Amory. G4aughterJ
The grand jury called Mr.. WINS before t. and
after considerable discussion as to how Mr.. WINS
would advise it to proceed Mr.. WINS testified as
folloTs .,c among other err things .,,o. g 400 .,o
District Attorney I should not know where 10 look