New-York tribune., 1909-07-16
that, don't you think that you would have
known ii by this time
GENTLE CROSS EXAMINATION.

fears we're zreundless Mr. Morschauser, ask
ing the questions suggested by Thaw, vas as
gentle cress-exarniner ever worried a wit
ness His cross s-examination went along these
lines
o-Do YOU remember your last visit TO Mattea-
a-pe you Eemsnlesr any ", EARNING which you
H,s - Nlo o ne 90 an entertainment which was
70 be given there? A-Yes- . ,,s a..
some people that we know were coming UP, and
that he had better keep out OF sight Dr. Flint was
o@wss not MT. Thaw TO take part in this enter
o-Did you tell Mr.. Thaw how you learned that
this entertainment was going TO take place. At
o-From whom? A.-From people who were TO
o'-FTom Dr. Flint. A-No.
Half g dozen letters in their envelopes were
then shown to Mrs. Thaw for Identification
Mest IF them she identified with the single
sverG ''yes" uttered in a tone that was sug-
eestivs of a much bored person. As she held
them up, one could they were all addressed
in her sprawling, square characters TO Dear
Harry Finally she got hold Of one written
in pencil on cheap brown paper. She bent
over this one, her cheeks flushed, her shoulders
shaking and her face covered by her hand.
Every me in the courtroom leaned forward
expectantIy thinking to see some tears drop,
but they were disappointed for when she looked
up she was almost conrulsed with laughter.
1t was Just joke letter she wrote TO me
about some friends" said Harry Thaw at the
Close Of the hearing, laughing himself
After the letters had been identified they
were handed back 10 Mrs. Thaw again. with
the request that she say if they were written
and mailed ar the times indicated by the post
marks.
4 guess So" she said, concerning the first
Cd he
brown paper she said: Il guess this was. too.
unless YOU got the letters and envelopes
unused up."
After this she was excused. being taken out
Of the courtroom by rear door. the court at
tendant VINO did this earning the undyinE
enmity Of the throng Of curious women and
youag girls standing in the rear Of the room
DR.. ADOLF MEYERS TESTIMONY.
The most important witness after Mrs. ThaW
was DIR. Adolf Meyer. Of this city, recently
called 10 Johns Hopkins from the pathological
department Of the New York State Hospital
where he was director. He is now director o1
the Henry c. Phipps Psychiatric Institute 1t
vas DR. Meyer who testified that Thaw not only
said he did not kill Stanford White for revenge,
hut TO whom he said The idea of killing is alb
f4crrent Je me
DR. Never w-es careful in his answers. enun-
Of the foreigner and professional man. All
through his examination Mr. Clark vas busy
with objections disagreeing with the physician
or the colloauial use of many words, until the
Court remarked that tc him at least the physi-
Clans meaning was clear. One bit of his testl-
nony set all the counsel for the state scribbling
swav against time The witness had been
brought around to speak Of conversation with
Thaw concerning the killing OF Stanford White
Z asked Thaw." said the witness, what he
Thought Of the killing of Stanford White. and he
said: There is less danger now that people
would think that it the thing 10 do
Or Never found ii hard 10 recount his con-
~ersations with Thav to the liking Of Mr.
CLARK, but after sou1e time he testified that Thaw
had described his school days when he saw
him in the White Plains jail last year. on the
second Visit made some time later, he talked
with Thav on many subjects. Re asked him all
sorts OF questions covering history. ethics,
morals geography and mathematics. Asked II
he had any particular political interests. Thaw
answered. he says. well I helped 20 elect
Jerome"
Other subjects were talked on but the physi-
zcian old not care touch on them, although
they we're brought out in the cross-examination-
They had 10 do with the medical part of the
examination by DR.. Meyers. In answering the
rh-siciaa's question as 10 what estimate he
nlaced on his act. Thaw said that he had an
absolute horror Of killing Thaw said it made
no difference whether he committed the crime
while Influenced by alcohol not Asked about
jerome he said that he thought there were no
improper motives behind Jerome's prosecution
THAw IMPRESSED HIM AS RATIONAL.
DR. Never then told Of his efforts to have
pThsv allowed 70 sit UP after o'clock at night
4nd said that at the time Thaw complained Of
being sent TO bed early he declared that DR..
Baker had misquoted some remarks made by
rim He said ne believed this misrepresenta
sion was by accident and not inspired by malice.
.-Ths,y Impressed me as being entirely rational
essd yo- Never al the end OF the direct eZamina
zion.
Nr Nerschauser delayed the cross -examina
-ian some few minutes trying to make UP his
--zsa5 whether he would consent to allow the
record of the second trial to be placed in evil
dence This is the ferty-eighth witness that
SOU have called" said Justice Mllls. as counsel
for the relator still hesitated the forty-elgnth
nan to testify along these lines. We must ex-
,ssE+s this csse The cross -exAmina ton of this
7,ifoess Is important as he is Of the very
Few 70 whom Tfaw spoke Of the homicide.
ar AIorschauser said he could make up his
mind a little later. and the eross-examination
began Mr Clark made much Of the testimony
shat the witness had taken MS notes in short
hand before Thaw. ard had left these original
notes at home He had some difficulty in
framing his questions in such a way that the
witness could answer them. and Justice Mills
often had 70 take a hand in getting the desired
information Mr. Clark wanted especially to
get the names Of all those who had given in
formation TO DR.. Meyer regarding Thaw. but
die not get anything more than that Mrs.