The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1909-03-11
LANSING TESTIMONY.
IllanIInueN Irom paEe G.l

safety.
q Leaving the theories out Of the case as to your Enowl
edge q aelpa facts Does i oecurP fN
a. Notony knowledge.
9. In your opinion does It ocsnr1
A. II does not
8 You hmk you are informed about The conditions as
they actually exsi7
A. think am yes, sir
@ VINO IS i that regulates The Of coal that a
must digi
A. That amount has been regulated here BY previous
board Of directors long before my time The prison board
@ L was fixed at .....,..?
A. Eighteen a week.
O. Three ears a day7
A. Yes sir what it averages yes st But as matter OF
TACT good many Of get their coal BY Wedncs-
day night About half ton to the car
@ IT. small amount Of coal for mines, isn't iti
A. Yes, sir
@. How Is it for one that is not miner1
A. The one who is miner given weeks to learn
70 mine before he is required to give full task
@ At the end Of the two weeks what task is he gvcn2
A. We divide that task up in this way: full task il
eighteen that working in room, two work
Ing in room think it thirty cars and three working in
room orwo for the week The skilled miner having green
put with him isn't required get out the total task thirty
but is given lee way of SIX and three working ih
mines and a skilled miner and two are not is still low
cred think the division is made 49, 50 and AL That Is my
recollection.
@ DO ! understand that two men aevcr work together
except a skilled and green hand3
A. No we aim 70 work skilled men by themselves
and who perhaps are skilled men and then tell me that one
get in proportion than two men can but We
aim 70 as far as possible make skilled work with
nnskllcd man.
O. DO two skilled men work togctherf
suppose they do some
@ What supervision do you make Of that matter?
AZ don't make that very much matter Of supervision
@ Who knows about that?
A. The mine superintendent aud what call The pit bos,
be makes crawl Of The and Under the direct supervision
q the different mine officers
q lie Is a convict. IS he not?
a. lie is NOT, he IS an officer
o.. What aunrils. lias.he over Tie guards?
N lie hasn't any authority them
g. lie has no authority?
Al. Not particularly
Q Iie is under Mr. Fuon1
"A. Yes sir
@ And his aoilory The same as Mr. Folions. aoihinge
A. Practically nothing
81 Who clse under hIr Fulton besides iie pt fossp
h. All ihe officers down there
@. The guards ere not under Mr. Fulton?
a. II guard refuses 10 follow Mr. Futons directions IN
working in ibe mine Of he would be reported bu Mr
Fulton hasn't any charge q ne discipline
@. Awhile ago you tod me that Mr. Fulton made his re-
port 70 the deputy warden and not to the guardP
For The detail Of and for the number oi men Ne
wants III inc nuns Ar Fulton permitted TO give orders direct
70 the guards.
@ How about tic pit boss7
al Tie has direction there about laying track ii tie ab.
sence Of Mr. Fulton but not any special authority Mr. Fulton
lays out The work be done something like track master win
to section foreman and the pit boss IS director ofh
9 Are the green men given the full task Of three cars
day eighteen a week?
a. Not that have ever known OF
q. DO you know?
know Tie order that they shall be given two weeks
lee way.
81 Alter two weeks arc they given the full task?
A They are supposed to have full task wish to saw
that the orders to Mr. Fulton and to all officers around this
institution that shall be punished If he is irving b
do the best he matter what he accompshe no matter
what the task may Be II The officer satisfied that Ne endea
orng to do his best whether he gets large amount Of small
amount he isn't punished for It.
You say that rule and direction given to Mr. Fulton
a. That man shall not be reported or punishment
@ He therefore has something do with discipline il
the mine.
Not any more than he has Ia watch and Sec that 4
man y not reported when he Is doing his best
Who ese exercises that authority besides Mr. FuIonY