The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1909-07-29

DIR. Evans" replied Thaw after a
I little thought was mistaken. He was
told by Mr.. Jerome and those connect
ed with his office that everything 1 said
was untrue"
While Jerome addressed the court on
legal point. Thaw calmly polished his
spectacles. He directed a triumphant
smile at his counsel and seemed we'll
satisfied.
1t is not matter of private preju-
dice to the peoples attorneys" said the
district attorney whether this man is
confined or not. We are only trying to
assist the conscience of the court in
making its decision"
Did Not Like MeLane's Looks.
jerome asked Thaw why he did not
permit DR. Allen McL8ne Hamilton to
examine him at the time the doctor was
retained by his attorneys.
Il did not like his looks, replied
Thaw
What did you not like about them?"
"Oh, 1 just did not like them. He
was like DR.. Fell"
Who was DR.. Fell?" asked jerome.
why, don't you know2 I do not
ike you, DR.. Fell; the reason why I
cannot tell " replied the witness, smil-
inE.
The district attorney dropped this
! line of questioning.
Were you ever insane?" asked Je-
rome.
7 may have been at one time, for
few moments"
Were YOU crazy when you killed
Stanford White?'
Was Legally" Crazy.
Il think I was legally crazy, but I
may be mistaken"
DO you think you did a wicked thing
i'm killing him?'
81 do"
"Then why. did you XIII him?"
Probably for what he did to my
Wife"
To your wife alone?'
Principally"
Were you jealous?'
II could not say that I was jealous.
Did YOU have a feeling of bitter per
Sonal enmity towards him or did you
think ne was the kind of creature that
every decent man was justified in put
ting out of the way?"
There is no such thing as a man
that every decent man should put out
of the way
Asked again why he killed White,
Thaw replied:
Really. / do not know"
ShSiNC VI gu FNAASi iCyE
Thaw said his own choice of an at
torney for his first trial was Governor
Hughes. because the jury would know
that any witness he put on the stand
would be truthful
Jerome reviewed Thaw's frequent
change of counsel.
The witness explained that his dis |
agreement with the firm of Black, Cru !
Der & OlcOtt was due to their deter /
minatiOn To try to acquit him on the /
ground of insanity, when he knew he /
was not insane. He reiterated, how /
ever. that he might have been insane /
for brief interval when he killed /
White
You must remember" he remarked. /
that these lawyers were Influenced in /
their belief regarding my mental con- /
diticn because they were told that the /
charges 1 made against White were /
untrue"
But were they true?" demanded Je-
rome.
THEY were" replied Thaw firmly. |
Expelled From Harvard.
why were you expelled from Har-
vard?" asked the district attorney.
Il was told 1 was not useful there. /
and I and four or five others were put /
out for studying a subject not in the 4
curriculum.
WAS that an immoral subject?"
Illegal perhaps. but not immoral"
Mr. Jerome did not pursue that SUBJ
ject. but reverted TO the testimony
given yesterday by Susan Merrill,
ThaW's former landlady in New York.
Thaw declared that when he first
learned that Mrs Merrill was to go on
the stand he was exceedingly angry.
7 was told" he continued, that
her UP in your Office and spat in her
face and got her to tell a lot of lies
about me. But, of course, 1 don't say
this is true"
Thaw was in the midst of his tes-
timOny and apparently unruffled by
his ordeal when court took the noon
recess.
As he left the stand DR.. Britton D.
Evans, his chief alienist, and Mr.. Nor
sChauser seized his hand and told him
he had acquitted himself splendidly.
The prisoner went back to the jail to
all appearances in a happy frame of
mind.
Declared His Sanity.
When the afternoon session opened
Mr.. Jerome asked Thaw:
In your opinion, are you now sane?'
Yes" said Thaw, and in other per
sons opinions"
The witness was shown the pamph-
lets prepared by his mother.
Did you believe the allegation with
which this pamphlet opens that a cow
ardly combination of powerful men ex-
listed against you was true?' asked the
prosecutor.
Il thought my mother must have
been so informed or she would not have
said it" was the reply.
Thaw said he did not believe such >
combination existed to conceal the
wrongdOings of Stanford White and his
associates"
How do you explain all the trouble
and expense that Mr. HaTtridge, your
former counsel, went to in order to get
this whip that was presented yester-
day2' asked II. Jerome.
He never went to any expense" an
swered Thaw. but he amended this by
adding that he had heard it had cost
$40. of which Hartridge paid half and
Daniel OBeilIy half.
Unintentional Deception.
The witness said that on one occasion
at least he had deceived Dr. Evans, the
ahenist, though not Intentionally.
AT least he told me so the other day"