New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-07

that she and her daughter sat UP in bed and
listened with delight until o'clock in the morning.
MRS. THAw QUOTES JEROME.
At a former hearing she said. she had heard
Mr.. Jerome remark. while Thaw's counsel. Colonel
Asa Bird Gardiner. addressing the court:
What's the old fool saying now7 This man Thaw
is now in the place he ought 10 be. and where.
hope, he will be kept the rest Of HIS life"
After denOuncing DR.. Allan McL.ane Hamilton for
falsehoods she said he had told her she broke
down as she turned toward Mr.. Jerome and said:
"oh, how he has tortured my boy here. can
never forgive him for IT," Metteawan she de-
scribed as the vestibule to the lower regions.
Despite all the calumnies that had been spread
about her and his alleged bent for low asso-
ciates. she said the latter were among the best
known people in New York. And she named over
list Of prominent guests at dinner given in her
honor by Harry in February. 1901.
Mrs. Thaw said she had heard Justice Morsch-
auser. brother OF her sons present counsel who
denied the first application for a writ for Thaw's
release from Matteawan. say 10 Thaw at the pres
ent hearing II hope you get through this time"
She explained OF the notes that had been
taken from Thaw in his cell at Matteswan as
memoranda giving her a real inklng OF the char
acter OF Clifford w. Hartridge.
Then she turned and looking squarely at Mr..
Jerome. said:
II have special emnity toward Mr.. Jerome
but he certainly has not behaved like a gentleman.
He always talked ABOUT Harry II all his life
had been spent in the Tenderlon. when he knew II
was not true. He never frequented the Tenderloin
until he unfortunately met a certain person who
dragged him down"
ROGER O'MARA A WITNESS.
Roger O'Mara. the Pittsburg detective. declared
he had never been employed 20 hush up stories
about Thaws alleged perverted and cruel practices
He corroborated the stories of investigating Whites
alleged criminal attack on young girl. now the
wife Of a we'll known actor. He stuck TO his asser-
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Jerome's attempts TO trap him. He told Mr..
Morschauser that Jerome had told him that ''rhaw
not half crazy his lawyers"
When o'Mara left the stand Thaw leaned over
Didn't you onoa tell o'Mara that my lawyers
were crazy?'
IN tell you what I said" said Mr.. Jerome: Il
told o'Mara that you were as crazy as bug
Wen. I'm surprised. said ThAw; Il really didn't
| think you'd say that" He looked at Mr.. Jerome
| but turned away with expression of perplexity
rather than animosty
Or. Isham q. Harris. Of the Manhattan State
Hospital, witness for Thaw. declared he thought
| that outside Of his eccentricities and self-as-
sertiveness Thaw normal. He thought his
manner in the courtroom had shown embaTrass-
| ment and that Thaw had exhibited lack Of tudg-
ment. What the future would bring forth. If ThaV
were released he said he could not say. DR.. H
Ernest schmid. OF White Plains. said he thought
/ Thaw was perfectly NJ TO be AT large
/ hOhSCHAISl.R IN CHARACTERIZATION.
After court had adjourned Mr. Morschauser cor
roborated the statement that his brother. Justice
/ Morschauser believed Thaw and had
said Thaw. Thaw expressed himself
as satisfied with the course OF the proceedings
while throng Of curious spectators waited in the
| courtroom for him 10 pass out Thaw helped his
/ lawyer 10 gather up some papers and said with
/ laugh; We may need them for the next trial
This morning Mr. Jerome will up and Their
Mr.. Morschaaser will make his final plea
! The statement OF Mrs. Mary Copley Thaw IN
| court on Thursday TO the compensation paid
| the Thaw lawyers served 10 disclose the where
| abouts Of Dolphin Michael Delmas. who has not
| been overmuch in the public eye since the hrs
| Thaw trial. At his ONCE, at No. lis Broadway
| copies OF communications that passed yesterday
| between him and Clifford W. HaTtridge giver
| out. in which Mr.. Hartridge politely assures sir
! Delmas that the Pacific Coast orators memory
| has not gone back on him in believing that he wa
retained for s50oooO half Of which was 10 be paic
| by Thaw and half by HIS mother Mr.. Hartridg'
says he is at a loss 10 know why Mrs. Thaw should
have made such statement. unless n is In keep
| ing with their policy attack lawyers who have
| been paid as well as those whom they have failed
| 10 pay"