The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1909-01-31

/ list of eighteen towns. which Is taken
from paper read Boy a promlnetlnL en-
SlneeI- DO YOU care J., nave tAaL-
Mr. TAYLOR-Nes.
Some Supply Blue Water Gas.
Mr. FCRSTALL-There are eighteen
/ towns that have q town supply of
blue water gas in Germany and Hol-
! land and Austria.
Mr.. SIMS-For Illuminating.
NJ. FORSTALI-Yes
NJ. SIMS did not know 1T had
/ any illuminaut ia 1T.
Mr.. FORsTALL-It has TO be used
Mr.. MooRE-It is not a hrst-class
/ illuminant2
Mr, FORsTALL-No3 you have to
The following is q list of the towns
/ referred to-
Pettau, Radkersburg, Rzeszow, Ib- (
/ benbueren, SChlosshof, Chimay Milsper
/ Broni, Oberberg. Neuhacusel, 1Vasser-
/ billie Caltanisitta, WibOrg, WIrstelu,
/ Hamburg, OsterfeId, BrummCls Hol-
/ land, Essen.
Water Gas Used in France
/ Mr. FORSTALI-I think tie state
/ ment is made that no waite gas is
/ used in France. There is soms used ln
| France at nine places that I have rec
/ OTds Of, and the restrictions there are
/ local Some of them there refer TO the
/ percentage of water gas that can be
/ used, or the percentage of carbon mon
/ oxide in the gas. At Nice, for instance
/ they cannot use more than 30 per cent /
1 of water gas. Al Paris II can be -
per cent Of carbon mUuoXlde- That rs /
practically straig ut water gas, but they
I do not make il, because it IS not econ /
/ Omical TO make it,
/ Mr.. TAYLOR-You say those are local
|regulauOus2
Massachusetts, Only One
/ Mr. FORSTALIrEes there is no gen /
eral law against it, Now, the question /
I OF agitation against yne use Of water
| gas has been pretty well taken care of /
( by Mr.. Barker, because there has been
no particular agitation, that is, no inn /
pOrtant agitation. that ever came near
| legislation in any state, except Massa- /
ChUsetts, and at the present time there
are no restrictions in any State OF city 4
/ of the United States, of which I am
aware nor are there any IN any other /
countries, except as obtain IN France. I
Mr. MOORE-I do not want u break /
I'm on you there, excepting TO ask /
question because 1t IS appropriate at /
this time. This BILL IT. r 2639S, regu- /
lating the quantity OF carbon muuoNlde /
in gas in the DistriCe or Columbia pro /
hibits any corporation existing OF ulu- /
ervise1 or to exist from IrduuTI TURNS +
making, selling or supplying any Za5 for I
heating or Illuminating purposes IN lie /
District OF Columbia. which shall con- /
tain an excess of 10 pfr cent OF carbon /
mouONide. DO YOU know of any state /
i'm the Union that mas any such resJlc- /
7 ton as that
One Old New Jersey Law. &
Nr. FORSTAII-Tes. ant no. / tl.uh +.
there is still a law on che statute .
books OF New Jersey which prohibits
L viii set at iu another way. This low .
g.. An of
formation Of gas companies and il +
provides the general law under which /
gas companies can be formed with the .
stipulation that such companies shall +
furnish gas Wnlcu snail not contain /
more than q certain amount of sulphur /
per 100 cubic feet, and certain amount /
Of ammonia. nor q certain amount OF /
carbon monONide, or 10 per cent OF by +
drogeu IL is absolutely impossible TO /
make gas OF that kind
Mr.. TANLOR-Eveu coal gas
Just a Legal Technicality.
Mr.. FORSTALL-Even that has ove-
40 per cent of hydrogen, and the lowest /
5 per cent OF carbon monONide That /
law does not affect any OF the COM |
pauies i'm New jersey. They were in
corporated there before the general Ia"
was passed or after d was passed. b1 /
act of the Legislature. IhaI law was
passed, I know by statement of one
70
vent the formation of gas companies IN /
New Jersey under the general law.
Mr.. TAyLOR-Iu other words, 70
compel them 10 come in and form un-
der special charter
Mir. FORSTAIL-That is right; to
compel them to come ia under sDe-
Sir. ETOORE-Thsy DO manufacture
gas, notwithstanding that law you
have reference to, which does NOT come
within the limitations here
All Outside That Law
MT. FORSTALIl-Au the gas is OUT
side OF that law.
Mr.. OR-3Ianufactured under
special charter
Mr.. FORSTALL-YCs. You cannot
make O. gas that can comply with that
law, or it was not intended.
Mr.. MOORE-CompIy with the New
Jersey law or with this law
Mr.. FORSTAII4-Witu the New Jcr- I
scy law. I ann not certain that D. stIl
on the statute books but ! think IL ls.
I do not remember seeing that 1t was
repealed IL was passed quite mum
Der of years ago think IL was ln
1876 that 1T vas passed. do not Know
that Sc has ever been repealed, win |
that exception, there SIS uO law that
pretends 90 restrict and the passage
Of that bin TO which you referred, MI
Moore. would put the District of Co
lumbia in d position entirely dlHerent
from that Of any other community in
the United States.
MT MDORE.-Do sou agree with Mr.
McUheUuw that the passage of this law
would practically put the Washington
GasIght Company, as IL now does bus
mess, out of business
Could Only Supply One-hfth.
Mr. FORSTALL-If you were % pass
that law and make it go into force
Immediately, why yes, they could only
supply about one-afth of their present
business,
Mr. MOOEE-Thats OF course, would
affect every consumer of gas 80 the
city Of Washington.
Mr.. FDRSTALTs-Jules they con-
sideTcd that they had authority to cir
cumscribe the district around the gas
works and supply that district and let
the rest of the District Of Columbia go
without gas, IF they tried TO supply
the whole District nobody would get
Mr. sTMs-Does that bin read TO take
effect on PASSAGE
Mr. TAYLOR-It does not say at all.
Mr. SlMS-Tleu iJ would take effect
from its approval without amend
ment
Many Interests Involved.
MI MOOEE-Tae point had iu mind
was. that here is concern that has
invested "a very large amCHlt OF money