The San Francisco call., 1909-07-29

been sane?'
4 have always been sane medically
Gould stranger tell in five minutes
conversation whether or not you were
crazy?"
Yes, if he were accustomed to ex-
anime lunatics."
How about DIR. Evans? He said at
your trial that you were afflicted with
delusions"
"Dr Evans" replied Thaw, after a
little thought, was misled.''
Were you ever insane?" asked Je-
rome
Il may have been at one time for
a few moments"
Were you crazy when you killed
Stanford White?'
Il think I was legally crazy. but 1
may be mistaken"
DO you think you did a wicked thing
in killing him?"
Il do"
Then. why did you kill him?'
Probably for what he did to my
wife"
ITO your wife alone?"
Principally"
Were you jealous?"
Il could not say that was jeal-
Gus"
Did you have a feeling of bitter
personal enmity toward him or did
you think he was the kind of creature
that every decent man was justified in
putting out of the way?"
There is no such thing as a man that
every decent man should put out of the
way"
AsLad aoai, ,yby he kiIIad white
Thaw replied:
Really, I do not know
Why were you expelled from Har-
Vard?" asked the district attorney.
Il was told l was not useful there
and l and four or five others were put
out for studying subject not in the
curriculum"
Was that an immoral subject?"
Illegal, perhaps. but not immoral.
Jerome did not pursue that subject
but reverted to the testimony given
yesterday by Susan Merrill. Thaw's
former landlady, in New York. Thaw
declared that when he first learned
that Mrs. Merrill was to go on the
stand he was exceedingly angry.
Il was told,' he continued, that Gar
van, assistant district attorney, got
her up in your office and spat in her
face and got her to tell lot of lies
about me. But of course, l don't say
this is true"
DENIES MALEVoLENT MOTIVES
The first evidence given by Thaw OF
any excitement was when Jerome
probed further into the events leading
up to the shooting and questioned him
regarding his early relations with
Evelyn Thaw
The witness measured his words
carefully with an evident desire to
present this part of his career in the
best possible light. At this moment
Evelyn Nesbit Thaw herself slid into
a seat among the witnesses. If Jerome
had planned her appearance to confuse
the witness he could not have brought
her in at more telling juncture. Tha W
insisted that Miss Nesbit was well
taken care of in Europe and in Paris
He recalled his anxiety to marry her
and repeated the story of her reluc-
tance for reasons associated with her
alleged treatment by White.
Thaw said that after Whites death
he was exceedingly sorry for certain
charges he had made against the
architect in his will. This instrument
was drawn in 1906 on the day of his
marriage.
The codicil set aside $4,000 to be
used in investigating Thaw's death in
case it occurred under suspicious cir
cumstances, and this clause has beer
advanced as evidence of an unsound
mind.
Thaw explained that it had nothing
to do with the White matter.
Did it touch you with remorse OF
horror that you had taken a human
life?" asked Jerome.
Somewhat; but the circumstances
diminished those feelings"
What circumstances"
We'll, for one thing. all the lega1
squabbling that was going on"
Jerome devoted nearly an hour read
| ing letters sent by Thaw to Anthony
| Comstock, containing charges against
White. Thaw said he had signed as.
sumed names to these because ht
! thought he could be more useful In
ferreting out the crimes il his identity
was kept secret.
! The allegations in these letters were
! part of the evidence at the homicide
/ trials.
! Have you maintained your Interest
in the suppressing of such crimes p
1 asked Jerome.
Il lost my interestin them," replied
Thaw. ION June Is, 1906" (the day ht
shot White).
Thaw viii continue his testimony to.