The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1909-05-12
TIE ANTI.TAMMANY HUNDRED
Continued from First Pdoe.
they mean war on Tammany Hall. and you
might as we'll understand it,

ssNy
might as we'll understand it,
He said that to beat Tammany it wa,
necessary to unite all the forces against
Tammany. we tried the other thing
once before and We failed he added
III this means uniting all these forces
and selecting a ticket after a conference
of all parties then I'm heartily with 1t,
II 1t means dividing these forces 60 as to
give Tammany a victory then I don't be-
lieve in helping Tammany pull It's chest
nuts out Of the fire.
Thomas j. Curt is. head OF the Central
Federated Union. followed Senator Brush.
He was sure that the workingmen and or
gsnized labor were going to get together
this time. He handed 1t hard to Comp
troller Meta man. he said. .whc
tells us one day the debt limit ia 90 much
and who falls asleep and dreams it's some
thing different
It was John Martin of Staten Island.
and a former Hearst candidate, who
sprang the city ownership business and
voiced the first real dissent with the plat
form as proposed in the resolutions. He
didn't think the economy issue was the
In the opinion of many here" he said,
III would be certainly disastrous to run
an economic campaign based on the
economic fallacy that the budget is the
same thing an taxes
Mr.. Martin proposed a substitute pro-
should include AT least eight members
who are in favor Of the city building and
owning subways and Of ample appro-
priations for the oity's social service
Mr.. Martins remarks. which were
rather emphatic, weren't a marker to
those of Prof. Charles Sprague Smith OF
the Peoples Institute. who followed him,
would stand for a minute behind what
he described as a noncommittal state
ment.
Il I'M not ignorant of the spirit OF
those who gather here lat the Peoples
Institute he said. This is my stamping
ground. That's a wishywashy state
ment."
the machine and for the machine, and
had no use for either party. he declared.
We've got to have an independent
movement" said Mr.. Smith, looking at
Mr.. Seligman, William j. Schiefelin.
Cleveland H. Dodge and others who sat
in the front row. We've got to have a
movement that means %s9Wethins to the
and for the machine I'd write at the top
OF my ticket: With the people and for
the people"
Furthermore. Mr.. Smith said. he would
insist upon every candidate on this ticket
giving a pledge that no would do what
Mr.. Jerome is about to do in a somewhat
belsted fashion, He would have them
Smith referred TO the resolutions as
"colorless" and meaningless and there
were a few scattered cheers. He Sec
onded Mr.. Martins proposition to have
the city ownership men control the CON-
mittee.
wanted to talk after Mr.. sprasue had
discharged his blast. One of the first
TO he recognized asked that the privi-
leges Of the floor be granted to a man
who wasn't a resident Of New York
Il refer to James Eads Howe, the
head Of the conference o. the unem-
ployed,' he said. There were cries of
Il to a vote gently told the friend Of Mr..
Howe that Mr.. Howe couldn't be heard
you're an old bunch of grafters!"
shouted al this was announced.
Mr.. Ogden and some of the reformem
who had watched these proceedings
a~nxiously smiled at this.
Some of the orators who did get a chance
over the economic issue. 1t wouldn't
60 at all In the tenement. Michael A..
one of the labor men, said.
as an issue may be all right"
he explained. -but It goes better with the
fronts than it does with the
We want subways and
schools and more Fairgrounds and less
When a man who was suspected of
socialism got the platform there was a
protest. One man said loudly that he
come to talk about nominating a
for Mayor and not to hear speeches
on q lot Of different subjects.
DO youtwant to uso gag law here2- said
the suspect. There followed a wrangle
among the pa~rliamentarians as to whether
q vote should be taken without letting the
on the platform speak or hearing
him and voting after. Mr., Ogden finally
decided that he could speak.
I'm a representative Of the Prohibi-
ton party. said the suspect when he A.
nally got the chance. and IL was several
minutes before the meeting got through,
laughing at its suspicious. He wanted 4