The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1909-07-28
JEROME FAILS TO
AFFECT THAW BY
RIG|D CROss-F|RE
District Attorney Drags Stanford
Whites Slayer Through Merciless
Examination in Effort to Defeat
His Fight for Freedom.
Young Millionaire's Showing May Sc
cure His Release From
gsIm Matteawan.

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WHITE PLAINS. N. Y. July 28.-
Plainly nervous and realizing that
his fate depended upon his own &C.
lions and testimony. Harry X. Thaw
took the stand this morning In an Of.
fort to prove to Justice Mills that he
10 sane enough to be freed from Mat
teawan
why are you here?" began Jerome.
1T is a habeas corpus proceeding
looking toward my release from Mat
teawan." answered Thaw. nervously.
why were you committed to Mat
teawan?"
Because at the end Of my second
trial was acquitted but the presiding
Judge issued the commitment"
We'll. why were you acquitted"
Because they found me not guilty.
answered Thaw. rather sharply.
why you killed Stanford White.
did you not? Shot him to death on
Madison Square Garden?" asked Je-
rome.
Thaw crossed his legs. swung his
huge leftzha to and fro couple OF
times, then leisurely answered:
counsel for both sides told that l was
suffering from decisions at the time"
You understand, do you not. the
noblesse oblige that prevails among
gentlemen
yes"
Would you. having committed an
act which you felt called upon "a a
gentleman, to perform. consent to the
subornation OF lying by your counsel
10 escape the consequences or your
act?"
, by no means" answered Thaw.
Attacks Testimony.
Jerome then attacked the testimony
OF the men who. during the first trial.
said Thaw spoke of hearing voices Of
young girls. He suddenly left that
line, however, and asked Thaw II he
had studied hypnotism before he was
married.
Yes; q very little. Prof. Ferris
called on me and gave me several les
sons. I was not much Interested.
however,
Z Did you study because you thought
Evelyn Nesbit was dominated by STAN
ford White through hypnotic infiu'
erces - -
why, yes" said Thaw smiiingly.
that entered into the matter"
did you think he did exercise hyp-
motto influence over her"
From her remarks I thought such
O thing quite possible. He certainly
exercised a strong influence over her."
In talking Of Anthony Comstock.
Thaw said: Il have taken little inter-
est in his work since my arrest"
Jerome then turned to the ques-
ton OF the voices of little girls Thaw
heard al the station. Thaw denied
hearing the voices at the time Lynch.
the doorman at the Tombs. said he
had heard them. Jerome read Lynch's
testimony given at the murder trials.
That's rubbish" remarked Thaw.
Then why did you, dominated by
that idea OF noblesse oblige, allow II
10 20 into the records?" sneered Je-
rome
II spoke to Mr.. Littleton about It,
but he thought that while II was mix
ed up, It should go In. 80 long as
the other side had used the evidence
Of Hummel."
Enemies Did Not Begin Suit.
This led into the alleged blackmail-
ing scheme Of Hummel, which Thaw
denounced. This was the suit OF
Ethel Thomas In which II was charged
that Thaw had tied the girl to a bed
post and logged her with dog whip.
What became of that suit?" asked
Jerome.
II told them to come on with the
suit. but they never came on" was
Thaw's defiant answer.
rs Il true that your wife threatened
to sue you for divorce because Of this
-
she had sufficient grounds"
"It Is not"
Are you willing to have your wife
go on the stand and waive your privi.
lege I'm this Connection" demanded
Jerome. but Thaw answered that he
would waive none OF his privileges.
Justice Mills yesterday took a
hand In the examination of DIR. Evans
and obtained from him statement
that Thaw could recover from the
mental ailments that caused him to
Sill Stanford White.
When he was excused. Jerome Inter
-upted proceedings long enough to
,pring his trump card, the introduc-
lion OF the whip which Thaw used TO
beat girls, which Jerome claims Is
proof OF his perverted ideas and ac-
lions.
Miss Susan A. Merrill. landlady OF
two houses In New York. was called.
II was she who turned the mysterious
whip over to Clifford Hartridge.
Had Many Visitors, She Says.
Miss Morrill, declared that when she
moved to West Fifty-fourth-st.. Thaw
took q room with her
Now tell what you know of what
he did there" ordered Jerome.
He had many young women visitors.
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