Martinsburg statesman-democrat. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1906-1921, 1909-03-19


exact verbs used by Mr.. McCiungy
but / have given, / believe the SUBJ
stance Of what he said.
q. Did he state how much money
the whiskey men would have, or how
much they bad?
a / don't think he did state any
definite amount, but he indicated that
he had plenty Of money for the pur-
pose of defeating the amendment; that
it had been raised for that purpose.
@. How long have you been con-
nected, eitfer in an official or profess
sioaai way, with either branch of the
Legislature o. tals state, and if in any
official way, what position did you
iii?
A. / was first Assist :, fstssk az
the House Of Dele 81. oa,,t;,.ouspy
FROM the sess sssos &C.,, ~ and
1919 Ion OF 1885, oo"h ~ "nu
ineiu -.ag The year 1891; was Clerk
II The Senate for the session OF 1898,
sud / was Clerk of the House OF Dele
gates, the session of 1899; that is the
only Official connection have ever
had with the Legislature. In busi-
ness way, / have attended practically
every session Of the Legislature, more
or less, in advocacy or IN opposition 10
Ger, ain matters of legislation.
q. Can you now recall any CONVEX
sffion you had with any other person
or persons, which ould throw addi-
tional light upon the subject matter of
this Investigation?
A. / had several conversations
with mem bers of the Senate concern
ing the use of money.
by Senator w, G. Grimes.
@. Who were these Senators, and
what was the conversation as yeu re-
member?
A, | don't know that / could state,
with airy degree Of certainty, as to just
what conversation had with certain
Senators insall instances, and | am re-
luctant to undertake to state any par
ticular conversation for fear might
have the persons confused, more or
less. More than one member OF the
Senate told me, or indicated to me.
that money was being used by whis-
key agents to defeat the prohibition
amendment IN the Senate.
@. DO you remember the names OF
any of these Senators?
"MONEY BEING USED STATED
sIsN ATORS.
A. 1t would not be a question OF
remembering or forgetting the names.
remember the names of the Senators,
or ut least talked TO on the subject. l
remembes of talking to Senator Fisher,
Senator Campbell, senator Kidd and
Senator Litlepage. | don't remem-
Der gilmore than Two of these gentle
men Indicating that money was being
used think / talked to other Sena-
tors about the same matter, too, but
those have mentioned, | am probab-
" better acquainted with than Sena-
ters generally could not state that.
either Senator Kidd or Senator Little
page indicated that money was being
used. ] am sure that Senator FISHER
did so indicate to me, and think that
Senator Campbell did likewise
think told Senator Fisher the sub.
stance Of the conversation | had had
with McClung, and it was probably
in that connection that he first indi-
Gated to mo that money was being
ssed. / don't mean to say that Sena-
tor Fisher told me that he knew per-
sonally of the use " money, but he
did make the statement in effect, at
least that money was being used.
@. Mr.. Byrne, 1t is fact, is it not,
that the matter of the use of money
was generally talked about during that
session Of the Legislature both at the
capitol and In the Hobbies of the hotels,
and among the people here, was 1t
not?
NATTER OF GENERAL CON-
MENT.
A. 1t lis a fact that it was matter
of such general comment that it makes
it very difficult for me to remember
with whom [ talked, and in detail
what was SAID.
Q. Is there anything else that you
can recall now that you can impart to
us which will facilitate perfect inyes-
tigatfon Of the matter, other than that
which you have already testified to?
VOTES SOLD FOR $500 AND
LATER FOR $50, 900.
| A. i don't remember anything
further just at present, except that l