The Washington times., 1909-01-30

/ is this. The percentage Of carbon mo-
noXide IS somewhat reduced from the
/ fact that we think i'm no gas supply on
on Manhattan Island do we get either
a straight coal gas or a straight water
| gas. We set a mixture. That is within
/ the province Of the Consolidated Gas
Company. There are two or three com
panieS where we get a Strdlght-tha1
I is / mean. CaFbureted water gas. Ia
| that case the carbon monoSide runs up
to - per cent
/ Mr.. SIMS-Is there any law or regu-
/ latiOn prescribing the percentage Of
carbon monOXide that may appear in
gasp
BIr. LOVE-None whatever.
Mr. MURPHY-You have large oil
refneries in New York have YOU
Mr.. LOVE-Oh, yes, there are some
I'm that vicinity.
Mr. RPHY-PrOximity to an oil
refinery would be quite q factor in the
determination OF whether water gas
would be cheaper than coal gas, would
it not2
Mr. LOVE-That is a commercial
question. / suppose, of course. # you
do not have To transport your oil SO
Iar, II does not cost yOU so much
money, / do not know what the New
/ York companies are paying Tor their
OIL. OF course, they make long con-
tracts / suppose, in some cases, and
get it at a lower figure.
the average price is Of the character Of
oils that are used2
Mr.. LOVE-T do not sir.
Mr.. SIMS-NIr. CiOIdsbOrOugh, would
you like To ask any questions?
Impossible to Tell
Mr. GOLDSBOROUGH-Mr. Love,
about what proportion is the mixture
there in New York?
Mr.. LOFE-Tt IS impossible to state,
/ for the very reason It is all a mixture
/ Sometimes. suppose, they put In per
| haps p per cent OF coal gas and 70 per
cent OF water gas: that was the last
lquOtation on it. The Consolidated Gas
Company, II 1 ask, gives it 10 me so far
as 1t cam but it cannot do it. because
IL has holders all over New York.
Mr. GCLDSBOROUGH-W manufac-
. ture here, as 1 understand it, about 50
per cent Of water gas and 20 per cent of
coal gas, that is our mixture.
Mr.. MURPHY-Do you state that as
q fact?
Mr. OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES is what
j understand to be the fact.
Mr.. pAfLOR-Dr. Wiley stated that
Mr.. GOLDSBOROUGH-Yes. the gov
eminent witness stated that About
what proportion of mOG0Xide would
that carry. that solution, or that com
Mr.. LOvE-That would depend alto
gether upon how much carbon nOnOXide
there was in your coal gas and how
much there was in the water gas. /
should says roughly, about % per cent
Conditions Are Varied.
Mr.. Observation-Disclosures only
about the average, &c would vary some
what with the Goals?
Mr. LOVE-Yes; there are variable
conditions in different days, in the
same plant even, and certainly with dir
ferent plants, different methods OF man
ufacture. different processes
Mr. MURPHY-Why should it vary on
Mr.. LOVE Simply because it is a
matter of heating the retOrts, and
matter Of the control OF the process II
Is absolutely impossible 30 control and
get absolutely the same result every
time.
MIR GOLDSBOROUGH amount
OF moisture in the atmosphere and the
pressure would be likely TO have infiu-
ence on il. would they nOt2
Mr.. LOVE-More on the heat than
anything else.
Mr.. SIAIS-Perhaps it is nc a i'm
proper question, since you are a gas
I Inspector, 10 ask what salary they pay
gas inspectors in New York
Mr.. LOVE-They pay the chief gas
examiner 5000 q year They pay the
ordinary gas inspectors 81 200
Mr.. SIAIS-YOu are the chief are yOut
Mr. LOVE-Yes.
Mr.. SIMS-You are the 5000 man
MIR. IONE-Yess sir.
1Lr SIMS-I understood YOU to say
that when there is more than ID per
cent OF carbon monoxide in gas that
that pTecluded any mixture Of coal gas2
A Legal Proposition.
Mr. LOVE-As a legal proposition, /
should say that a gas might contain
1 can make a mixture Of water gas and
coal gas and Keep the percentage Of car
bonlc oxide to ~ per cent, and still have
coal gas in It,
Mr.. SI8IS-I say, as a practical ques-
ton.
Mr.. LONE-Yes. sir.
Mr. MOORE-It seems to have been
fairly we'll demonstrated here that mon
oxide Is a poisonous quantity, and also
that it has developed in the manufac-
ture Of gas since the beginning. II ap-
pears 20 me that the announcements
that have recently come forth that
deaths have occurred through poisoning
by monOEide are not new propositions.
] want to ask you whether, I'm view OF
your experience I'm New York city. YOU
have any suggestion 20 make as to
I how the danger may be lessaned,
a.