The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1909-07-31
Agree on Roll Call for 8
o'Clock-Payne Opens
Debate.
DALZELL SPEAKS
FOR THE BILL
Fitzgerald Opposes - Underwood
Ridicules Taft Victory
Idea.
BY JOHN sNURE.


Five minutes after this afternoon lhs
House adopted a rule for the consider
alton Of the conference report on the
tariff bill. BY the terms cf this rule the
House viii vote on the conferences report
not later than 8 O'Clock tonight II IS
further provided that no point of order
shall be raised against the conferences
report, the effect of which is to Kermit
the decreased rates on shoes and Ieath-
er agreed to by the eoHfereEce TO stand.
The rule was adopted without a roll
call and by vote on the division Of 81
to H. The Democrats offered no real
opposition of a serious nature to the
rule. As soon as the rule had been
adopted Chairman Pavne, Of the Ways
and Means COMMITTEES, opened the de-
bate, which viii last throughout the
afternoon, by declaring that the bill
would redeem the pledges Of the Re-
publican party and Of the President and
that without stopping a wheel of any
industry or depriying any man of a
days labor
Dalzell Reads Rule.
The reading Of the conference report
was completed at 1880 O'Clock. Repre-
sentative Dalzell then read the rule,
and by virtually a party vote, TIE pre-
vious question on the rule was ordered.
The only Republicans who voted against
ordering the previous question were
Representatives Murdock. Nye. and Mil
ler
After the previous question had been
ordered there was ESTty minutes of
discussion on the rule. n response TO
questions by Represer tative Champ
Clark, Representative Dalze1f said that
no point of order would lie against any
part Of the conference report except
the reductions in the duties on shoes
and leather. He said that the confer
ence had increased no rates above those
by the Senate or the House.
Representative DalzeH spoke briefly
on the rule and for the bill. He de-
clared the bill would open up a new era
of prosperity.
Representative Clark. the Democratic
leader. said he would vote for the rule,
because II insured reductions on shoes
and leather, although he wanted these
TO be free. He recognized that ne could
not get all he wanted.
THE New England gang" said Mr.
Clark, has no more right to duty on
boots, shoes. and leather than other
people have 20 a duty on hides.
Representative Underwood Of Alabama
ridiculed the idea that the President
had won great victory.
1000 Items In Bill.
There are 1900 items in this bilI.''
said Mr.. Underwood. There are 1.500
paragraphs in this bill The President
stood for reductions on five or six
items"
Mr. Underwood maintained that the
duties on wooden ana cotton
President had stood firmly for such re-
ductions.
Representative Mann Of Illinois de-
clared that the conference report would
not operate to reduce the duties on
shoes made of leather and that in real
ity these would remain at Is per cent.
This was disputed by Representative
GardIser of Massachusetts.
Representative Fitzgerald, Of Brook
lyn, strongly denounced the BILL
The people, said Mr.. Fitzgerald.
"crS for reduction in duties and are
given White House bulletins instead.
The President by a single word might
have brought about a real revision Of
the tariff. L would have been much
better if he had spent more Of his
time in his library and less upon
golf course"
Talk Of Presidents Victory
As to the talk Of the great victory
won by the President, Mr.. Fitzgerald
said the country would not be deceived
by this pTetense, and that there would
come no relief to the people. he at
tackled the authorization for an issue
of bonds with the interest rate raised
from per cent to 3.
At the close Of Mr.. Fitzgerald s speech
the vote was taken on the rule and II
was adopted as already indicated. When
Chairman Payne arose 70 JeSln the gen
eral debate he was given an ovation IN
which nearly every Republican member
joined.
Reading of Report.
The reading of the conference report
occupied .he entire morning, about three
hours, in fact. While 1t was being read
the House Republican leaders and the
iusurgent leaders were active. Repre-
sentative Dwight was busy seeing wab-
bling members and urging them to vote
for the conference report. Insurgents
like Representative Murdock and Rep
resentative Mann, we're as active on the
other side.
1t soon became apparent that the in
surgents who were still holding out had
little hope Of defeating the conference
report, but had made up their minds to
put up the best fight possible. 1t would
require tWenty-eight votes TO beat the
conference report. This number could
easily be secured If the members who
dislike the bill were confident they could
beat IT, AS it is there is a disposition
TO flock to the winning side
At noon a prominent insuTgent esti-
mated there would be eighteen votes
against the bill and perhaps mare if the
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