The San Francisco call., 1909-07-18
ADMITS MORAL
DELINQUENCY,
But IS HAPPY
Evelyn Thaw Says She Lives
Up to Her Own Particular
Code of Ethics
Talks Freely of Stanford
Whites Murder and Calls
Husband a ParanOiac
Especial Dispoich to The Cali

| Especial Disp0lch to The Call
NEW YORK. July 17.-Evelyn Nesbit
Thaw in an exclusive interview today
with World reporter told the first
comprehensive story that has ever come
from her lips of the events connected
with the tragedy on the Madison
Square garden roof on that night in
June. three years ago. Mrs. Thaw in
her studio said:
Why do I consent to give this story
to the public?"
I have been quoted so many times
+ by women writer's of mawkish senti-
mentality with reams of sobs flowing
from the. ends. Of their pencils that I
rejoice at being able to tell this story.
Il laugh and play and cut up the
/ highest kind OF high jinks in spite OF
all I've gone through. I have never
/ committed any crime. 1 am young
woman whose unfortunate upbringing
has ended in my being connected with a
sordid murder.
MAY MARRY AGAIN
During my married life with Thaw
I lived at home as quietly and with
as much regard for the conventions as
! any woman ever had. may marry
again. 1t is all question in my mind
as to the .advisability of giving up a
career L have mapped out for myself
I or of settling down. to rear children
in the fashion of good housewife
and mother
u will not trade in the notoriety
that has attached itself to me as
result Of this terrible affair If L
chose to accept the many offers that
| have been. made to me TO go on the
vaudeville stage I should be indepen-
IDENTIFY rich.
THAT L have refused these things
is no indication that 1 am wonderfully
high principled. If you viii have the
truth. am distinctly immoral, as the
world today views morals have
my own code of ethics and live up
to them But from present day ideals
4 1 am immoral"
/ And here Mrs. Thaw made it known
/ for the first time thar there is man
/ of whom she thinks more than of any
one else in the world. She would not
tell his name
\ WAS STOLEN FROM WHITE
"Thaw stole me away from White,
/ just the same as men in the stone age
stole women. if folklore says such
things happened and I understand that
is the way the old tales go. For more
than year before that Christmas night
in 1908 I had seen White only occa-
sionaHy. But he was my protector. my
patron If you will and 1 loved him more
than 1 ever had any man or woman in
my life. my mother and father not ex-
+ cepted.
He was giving me a birthday party
/ the very night Thaw appeared with
me he would kill White before he would
allow him ever to take me away from
/ him. There was nothing for me to do
under the circumstances but go with
Thaw. 1 hardly knew him. 1 did not
like him. 1t was simply case Of so or
/ be killed
/ Jack Barrymore was a dear. sweet
/ whole souled fellow. and the first man
/ anywhere my own age 1 had ever
/ known since I began to understand
/ the way of the world But Stanford
White opposed our friendship as hard
as he could. He got my mother to
side with him. and before they in--
/ ished damning poor old Jack they had
+ said every terrible thing about him.
And right here, before we get to
( the rest of it. let me say it was not
/ easy-what I forced myself TO do on
I the witness stand. Do you think I
+ followed my inclinations when ] sat
/ there and looked at that grinning
7 Thaw OWN below me. that miserable
t man whose life I was esaring my heart
7 to save and told secrets would have
+ kept from the world at the cost of
my own hfe2
FHAW NOT GENEROUS
Never once in all the years after
that Christmas night was Thaw gen
I erous to me. Sometimes it would strike
+ me as unreasonable after he had re-
+ fused to yet me buy a pretty hat I
i had seen in a shop window for him
+ to come home and boast OF having
swept all the cut glass OF a bar in
the Hoffman house and having settled
( for it with a check for $30O.
~Onee in a hotel In LOndo he placed
/ a big heap of golden guineas on the
I table in our sitting rom and then rang
/ the jbell.
When a boy came Thaw told him 70
stay in the sitting room while he went
/ in the bedroom. Ostensibly to write q.
ktelegram. The poor little fellow saw
he guineas spread out on the table
/ Thaw was watching him through the
Z rortieres. The page fell into the trap
+ and put two of the coins in his pocket
I Thaw rushed out on him and told him
/ he would not send him TO prison. but
would punish him himself He dragged
the scared little fellow into the bath
/ room. stripped him and logged him
with h0rsewhip until the cid was
+ bleeding all over is body. Then Thaw
+ put him in the bathtub and rubbed salt
into his wounds.
This is one of the things the people
are going to bring out in the White
Plains trial now under way It is the
/ first of the proofs they are going to ad-
vance in support of their contention
that Thaw is a paranoiac."