Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1909-09-24

class rates are very heh rates. ex-
Ccedingly remuneratlye. ] also hold
that all OF the commodity rates. so far
os 1 have observed. are remuneretive
rates
Mr.. Clark-Are you aware that. dur
ing the last fiscal year the Rio Crande
company transported from Missouri
river points and points east thereof
INTO Utah territory east Of Utah com
mon points, less than $4,000 worth OF
freight?
MT Babcock-f don't know what
they did that year. Mr. CLARK but I
know IN the past YOU have transported
great deal less than that. to Utah
common points. our line from COL
ton Scoheld and from Thistle Junction
to the ttah-Colorado boundary was
practically barren Of traffic either local
or through
Mr. CLARK From common points,
MI Babcock-From Utah common
points. I endeavored a number OF
times to get into the freight IN that
neiehborhood. but the Denver q Rio
Grande people seemed TO be there
first.
Mr.. Clark Bur is it true that there
is very considerable consumption
81 commodities IN territory east Of
Utah common points?
HAS GROWN VERY MUCH.
Mr.. Babcock-I understand that that
has grown very much since my time
there
Mr. Ciark--Ahd II. as a matter of
fact. the Rio Grande lines TRANSPORTED
less than $4,000 worth OF freight into
that territory from Missouri river
points and points east thereof. that
territory must be supplied from Salt
Lake CITY
Mr.. Babcock-With very few excep-
tons. The traffic was 90 light. even
with all OF our efforts to build 1, up.
there was practically nothing. because
there We're no people there. We used
to try to send stun down south Of
Thompson Springs and Cisco. and en-
Qeavored at that time and did in n
number Of instances make blanket
rate Of 25 cents on anything that they
Tut into the car to try 10 get into that
territory. but never could succeed in
competing with the Denver & Rio
Grande system.
Mr. Clark-Assuming that salt Lake
Johbers do cover territory in Utah
east Of Utah common points. what
would be the effect upon the iobhing
trade OF salt Lake city OF reducing
rates both east and west from Missouri
river and east TO q mileage basis?
Mr.. Babcock would be the eff
feet on the trade down there
Mr.. Clark-rhe effect upon iobbers
here.
Mr. Babcock-I haven't considered
that aspect at all. Ny efforts were
directed TO through rates entirely
and I hadn't given any consideration
TO the question of distributiVe rates
I felt that would be idle and waste
of time until IL was determined what
any new rates would be when they
are put in operation. At that time
that question would probably come
up.
MIR. Clark-Ctah exports very con-
siderable quantities OF fruit grain and
candies. etc does IL note
Mr. Babcock These goods are
put up here and the Rio Grande and
the Union Pacific road have railroads
TO haul it with. Tha. is question OF
market competition and commodity
competition. They must make such
rates as will take that st.n to the
markets.
Mr.. Clark-That condition viii in
volve a departure from your mileage
rates?
Mr. Babcock mileage basis was
for class rates. / don't undertake to
say that everything should be govern
ed by a mileage basis.
Mr. Clark--A little further in re-
lation TO the value 10 carriers OF this
long distance haul and transcontinen-
tel traffic i think YOU were a witness
before the commission in the case Of
Leadvile board OF trade against
Colorado Midland Railroad company
and others in a case where there was
q hearing at Leadville, Colorado, on
June 90, 1902, and at that time you
were an employe Of the Rio Grande
Western road.
Mr.. Babcock-Denver 4 Rio Grande
Mr.. Clark-And at that time, as
understand you, you entertained the
views YOU here express with reference
to the value OF this transcontinental
traffic.
Mr.. Bsbcock-I don't remember.
LOVE SUBMITS FIGURES.
The testimony of stephen IA Love.
traffic manager for Il. G. NJ. l., was
among the best produced from the
standpoint Of the shippers OF the state.
and went far toward showing that the
item OF freight II OF great Importance
in fixing the cost 20 the consumer OF
the necessaries of life. According 10
the figures submitted by Mr. Love, the
item or freight constitutes 80 per cent
OF the cost OF the articles mentioned.
In comparing the rates charged b.
the railroads to Utah points and those
charged by the same roads 20 Pacific
coast points, Mr.. Love said that ON
goods shipped nom the Atlantic sea-
board the total freight charges were
much IN excess OF the total rate that
a Pacific coast merchant would have
had TO pay
Nh. Love was asked about the service
given BY the railroads He referred 70
the statement OF Mr. Derrah, that TIE
schedule time OF freights on the Dem
yer a Rio Grande was about four and
one-half days from the Missouri river
and Omaha, and said he thought Mr..
Derrah intended TO say four and a half
weeks.
Mr.. billiard asked the witness wheth-
en- he would be satisfied with a blanket
rate to San Francisco and Salt Lake,
and the witness said he, personally,
would be satisfied with such a rate.
Would that be just rate was
asked.
- can't say that u would
MATTER OF DIVIDENDS.
Atty. billiard asked the witness II h
knew the amount 81 dividends paid by
the banking institutions 81 this sex
ton Mr. Love responded that he did
not know.
Mr.. billiard then read an extract from
the Deseret News announcing that n
c. NJ. J. had just declared semi-an-