The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1909-12-04

Moral and Reform association Of Can
ada. He denied the statement that
no laymen had asked for this reform.
The laymen AZ we'll as the cleygymen
were behind the movement, he said.
q. ~ Many states Of the American
cep had passed similar legislation,
WHg New York, California, LOU
~ ~ Michigan, four Of the greet
hof &sHIng states: Mr.. Miller
asked . ss consideration Of the
enect sot ing Of this legisla-
ton by these ~. Canada had been
Hooded with asmerican' bookmakers
and one grand jury had declared that
ontario had now become q paradise
for gamblers. Japan, In order to
build up great strong people had
passed an anti--betting legislation.
(3) For economic reasons. During
the thirteen days racing at the
Woodbine one Toronto newspaper
said that the people had placed ST.
100000 In the custody Of American
bookmakers.
(4l Race: track gambling, did much
to deteriorate good, clean, manly
sport.
Approve Of Suggestion.
Major Beattie. London,> considered
that this was matter with which the
Ontario legislature ought to deal. He
said he had been on the track in Tor
onto once or twice but saw nothing at
all like what Mr.. Miller described.
g. H. Gowan, Vancouver, gave a
brief speech expressing his approval
of the bill.
w. M. Martin, Regina, declared him
self to be absolutely in favor of the
proposed amendments to the criminal
code. The house could do nothing
better during the session than to pass
the bill unanimously. A proper def
milton Of the word place" in the
act would go a long way to make 1t
possible to deal with the evil. Mr..
Martin declared that every race meet
ing in the west was attended by a
horde Of people who mske 1t a bust
ness to follow the races and that a
majority OF the people were anxious
to see q. change in tres. conditions.
G. H. Barnard, Victoria, gave his
hearty approval Of the bill. British
Columbia recently had an experience
OF the extent to which the men be-
hind racing were prepared to carry
things. Owing to the prohibition Of
racing In California all the thugs
from that state had been In British
Columbia during recent race meet
and the experience had not been a
very satisfactory one for the people.
Other Ways Of Gambling. 44.s.-
p. B. Osler, Toronto, prefaced his
remarks with the statement that he
was the vice-president Of the Ontario
Jockey club. He said 1t was gener-
put upon licepse by parliamentary en-
actment but that It cannot be sup
SpraSled. MstaH hiS expsrienge. and
|shS ma INST thousands sef iy0nng mon
!inshis hes did not knows,a single
ca1lshof Z Young man having been
ruihed through betting on the races.
He had come across many, however,
who had been ruined by stocks.
Thousands Of people were being ruin
ed at the present time by the craze
for Investment in mining stocks. Then
there were other forms of gambling
He would venture to say that more
money was won and lost over the
football match in Toronto last SAT-
urday than at the Woodbine in any
week. He further ventured to state
that in Ontario more money was lost
every day at bridge whist tnan at
the Woodbine In any week.
W.. r. Sfnythe, East Aigoma-"In-
cluding Sundays"
Mr.. Osler-"Yes, including Sun
day.
+; Difficult Subject to. Cover.
Hon. A. B.. Aylesworth dwelt upon
the difficulties Of legislating upon q
subject Of this kind, for by the aver
age man the. making Of a bet was not
considered to be in itself crime,
therefore the bill proposed to make
by istatute crime of what was not
regarded as a,crime. He pointed out
that betting was licensed by the par
liment of 1892 with their eyes wide
open, but they had legislated against
gambling on horses and wholesale
betting or selling of pools. 1t was
never intended for instance that horse
racing at the agricultural fairs would
be affected. Under the proposed leg
islation the societies. which gave priz-
es for these !, would be proceeded
against. With the sweeping away Of
the old legislation It would be GRIM
inal to be assisting anything in the
nature Of a bet. The whole question,
he said resolved itself into question
of policy. He suggested that the bill
be referred to committee and after
both sides had been Heard they would
be In much better position to come
to q Judgment regarding the ques-
ton.
The minister of Justice closed nv
reviewing the trend of adjudication
under the present law and declaring
that the chief weakness Of the new
bill was the effort to declare man
moving about to fixed place. There
could be no such thing as place
which, was not q fxed place.
WERE REBATERs
sonthera Railroads Caught in Federal
Drag Net.
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