New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-01
DEB ATE ON REPORT.
Payne Urges Its 4doption-Clork
Leads Opposition.
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t.oEoe O. Wyoming, VINO refused ul4ailittious
cent Cor the reading OF the statement 81 the con-
ferrees, instead Of the report.
Mr.. Payne made no efcrt TO get Nr. Monden TO
reconsider his action. and the reading Of the vo-
luminous report Of seventy-sx closely printed pages
began. It was expected 20 consume al least two
end g half hours.
The reading mad proceeded one hour and twenty
minutes when Nj Payne again asked unanimous
consent that st be dispensed with. Although Mr.
Mon6el! was in his seat. ne offered further OBJ
lection. and, much 10 the relief of every one the
nlonotonous tones OF the reading clerks ceased
Nr. DalzsI, from the Committee Rules, then
presented resolution providing that feature Of
the bill should he subject point Of order aid
that general debate should continue not later than
O'Clock, when the vote should be taken.
IN explanation OF the rule regarding points Of
order, Mr.. Dalzell said IL was made necessary by
the action OF the oonferrees IN creating entirely
new rates on leather ana leather goods
Answering question by Mr.. Clark. of Missouri
DIR. Daizeu declared there was no item in the re-
port on which the rate higher than the maxi
mum rate in either the HOUSE or Senate hlh on the
same item.
Mr. Dalzeu urged adoption of the report He said
he was aware that the bill did not satisfy every
hedy. Il did not satisfy him. No tariff bill ever
~rss passed that satisfied everybody, and none ever
would be. But" he declared. here is bill when
has been agreed TO by the representatives OF the
House and the Senate and by the President OF the
Tinted States He believed il TO be the duty OF
Congress TO act and thus relieve the business sua-
tion, eand open up era of prosperity
Mr. Clark regretted that boots. shoes and harness
were not put in the free list, while hides had been
The New Englshd gang he said, with some
warmth. have nc more right TO tariff on boots
SHOE snd harness than ether people have on hides
That is the GOD Allnightys truth about this mat
ter
The sincerity Of President Taft in regard te down
swerd revision was questioned by Mr.. Underwood.
ef Alabama. II. he said, the President had wished
~ he could have used his influence in the prepare
sion Of bill that would have been an improve
elent.
fan out. honest men get their dues was the way
Mr Fitzgerald, of New York opened heree at
tack on the Republican party and the President
Hs admitted that the consumers would have some
relief at least on The boot and shoe schedule The
people he said, had been crying for reductions but
got White House bulletins instead.
Mr.. Fitzgerald declared that one would be
deceived by the change in the leather and boots and
shoes rates. without which it would have been i'm
possible get the necessary votes to pass the bill
Fretenee, hypocrisy and attempts TO deiuse the
people. he charged had marked the treatment Of
rhe bin The President, he argued, by single
~yoT6 in his message 10 the special session could
have exercised his influence for lower rates In
deed he said 'it would have been better If Mr..
Taft had spent naore time his library and less
the golf course
The rule was adopted by 2 vote Of 9s1 to IL
CHEERS FOR Mr.. PAYNE
Then Chairman Payne arose. The reception given
him BY his Republican colleagues was most fatter-
ihg. They cheered. clapped their hands and
thurnped their desks for several minutes
When quiet was restored Mr.. Payne, speaking
deliberately, expressed the view that the bill
would be acceptable 10 the people. He declared his
conviction that il fully met tie requirements and
pledges OF the Republican party and the President,
and at the same time would not stop single wheel
at industry, would close no factory and would de-
pIive Of labor at decent, fair wage.
striving maintain the mandate of the House.
Both sides, he said, had made concessions Many
of those made 10 the Senate he frank 10 say
improved the original bill while others the House
oenferrees obliged to make did improve it.
on the whole, he declared, the result on
which the eonferrees might congratulate them
selVes. IS they had framed a bin which would re-
feet credit Congress.
Mr.. PAYNE then took up the various schedules
which had created wide diversity of opinion
among the confsrrees, and discussed them I'm detail
Taking up the customs court provision, he declared
that The Committee on Ways and Means had il
under consideration for some time. The absurdties
Of some decisions affecting customs, he said, had
grown grest that such a court was necessary.
He was asked many questions regarding the cost
Of the court In lis opinion it would call for an
expenditure Of from 100000 TO $4,000. but in any
event Il would be money well spent
Defending the maximum and minimum provision
Nr Payne said il would force fairer trade relations
with the United States 1t is time" he said I'VE
in the ield and showing those countries that
discriminate against what We ought 10 have
Mr. PAYNE appealed TO his Republican colleagues
te stand by the BILL saying that if they wanted to
drive their party into chaos they could vote against
IL But he said. il would be a deIusion 10 vote
against the bill upon the des that the Dngley rates
s'euia be continued.
EsTIMATEs OF REVENUE
We have revised the tariff and have taken off
UNNECESSARY duties" said Mr.. Payne mot all along
the line generally, bur in our revision Of the tariff
have revised the tariff downward and vet We
have held the scales evenly that have done no
injury re sry person ~ any industry the United
States
These rates increase the revenue from customs
less than s4ooo,oee. The corporation tax is esti-
raated produce s2s 300 200 and tobacco ST.
o,eOe"
He placed the increase Of revenue st about $40
100000 which, he said, is "Fsvenue enough when
this bill gets into fun working order 70 supplv the
necessary demands Of the government not 70 build
she Psnass Canal We NiM leave that 10 another
generation. We have provided for funds that will
establish the policy o. This government in that re
speet
The Dingley law during al its period Of exist
enee has provided ample revenue, and there is no
doubt this law viii 90 The same for another twelve
wears" he continued. Let US pass It gentlemen
this side OF the House. rhs duty IS ours the
tire has arrived
There Vtn come another BIZ che OF these
days. ard in the time the wheels OF Industry
vii. stop, enteEprlse viii be paralyzea, the conn
Try VIII stand str will move backward. and
you will the cay when you failed 10 90 with
tie great majority q Your party. your President
having lent his approval 10 This bill
Let US pass the bin and give soy ard happiness
70 the people or the United States. Let US start
- the remaining idle wheels of industry: US Put
every man who wants 10 work 81 work
Ehpn6erous applause greeted Mr. Payne as he
telk his seat