Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1909-01-07
,,,oroeys for All Parties Agree to
Put His Testimony Before
commission on Record.
COMPETITION WAS KILLED.
.... Agreement Was Entered Into
Rates ON All Railroads We're frac-
.eaily the Same.

,.., york Jan. 6-Edwin Hawley
,.,,. ,itv. president of the Iowa Gem
railway company and Of the
,n.oespolis q 81 Louis Railway COM
-. and a. director in several other
es1s including the Western Pacific.
,'os the first witness called by the gov
lament today in the hearing OF the
.,,on TO dissolve the merger OF the
herman railroads. Mr.. Hawley said
\, had been in the railroad business
H. 40 years. becoming connected
4 ,5th the Southern Pacific in 1888.
A. Hawley was questioned concern
~. tronacontinental business of the
Tston and Southern Pacigc at the
4 ,irse OF the alleged merger.
~ Hawley said that he was gen
,,ai eastern agent OF the Southern Pa
\ eisc al FIRST and that he had Jurisdic-
tior over the Morgan line OF steam
ore which was used as part OF the
sunset Route Competition among the
rival railroad companies before the for
nation Of the merger, he said, was
general RE declared that he always
onnosed the consolidation OF the COM
" VrnrrNAI NkNINNANn ga NAAN mn"
anil southern Pacific railroads.
SOUTHERN PACIFIC's POSITION.
ON rross-examination counsel for the
railroads asked Mr.. Hawley n il were
not absolutely necessary for the Union
pacific to use the Southern Pacific line
IN transconunentai trade. Mr.. Hawley
renlied that the Union Pacific did it.
,rbe witness said that IL was quite pos
"a
ed to force an issue with the Southern
pacific The latter road could divert its
traffic az Ogden TO the Denver q Rio
Gran6e IN its southern traffic, he
said the Union Pacific has always
bscn obliged 90 use the Santa Re.
southern Pacific. or the ~cNas Pacific.
IN renlv 10 questions as to whether
ihe Southern Pacific was not a domi-
naut factor I'm transconuncntn traffic
and practically has controlled the rates,
the witness said that the Southern Pa
ci0c was an Important factor and that
even freight shipped directly by way
Of the Toxas Pacific and Union paci-
dc had 10 be turned over TO the South
crn Paelfic at the terminals. He de-
MED that specific agreements as 10
rates had been made prior 10 the mer-
ger. but said there had been discus
sons as O. the division Of rates be-
tween the various roads over which il
passed. The witness said that freight
could be shipped from New York to
San Francisco 20 an au-rail route
which would avoid the use OF the Nor
gan line OF steamers from New York
10 New Orleans. The Canadian Paci-
fc tried It, he said. some years ago
Separate agencies were maintained by
the Union Pacific and Southern Paci-
Ne, he said, I'm New York, Boston and
Philadelphia
Mr. Hawley said that the southern
Pacific, Union Pacific and Oregon Short
Line were included in an agreement or
pool that existed for transcontinental
rates a few years ago.
Henry c. bly,, general agent OF the
Trunk Line association for 80 years,
was the next witness. He said he was
in charge OF the clerical force of the
association and Of the sale OF tom
nages, but not OF rates. Counsel for
the government asked him to bring in
statement Of the tonnage shipped
from New York to California and the
west In the period between 1883 and
1901, 50 as 10 show how much went
by rail and how much by steamer. Mr.
BY said
"rhe Morgan line got mad about
something and quit reporting about
1901. did nothing about It That
Was up TO my superiors."
COMMODITY RATES.
Frank N. White. auditor OF the divi-