New-York tribune., 1909-11-30
IBy The Associated Press. j

London. Nov. 3O.-Lord Morley's powerful
speech was the absorbing event of the
budget debate yesterday In the House OF
Lords. The Secretary OF State for India
dilated the Importance of the struggle
as viewed both at home and abroad and
called attention TO the fact that foreign
nations were watching anxOusy the out
come of the conflict to see whether there
would be any change IN Englands fiscal
policy.
He quoted Burke TO the effect that the
House OF Lords had NJ right in any sense
10 the disposition OF the public purse and
contended that IL there was one thing that
could not wisely be submitted to a referen-
dun. 1t was the budget. with all its COM
plexities. In addition referendum would
weaken what was most important to main
tain. namely. a sense of responsibility in
the House of Commons.
AS to the Lords contention that their
action would arrest the wave OF socialism,
he refused to believe that British artisans
were predatory or socialistic. but even
granting tha, the misery existing among
some classes haC produced a movement
akin to socialism. 1t was hardly wise OF
the Lords to take position exposing them
to the charge of straining the constitution
''The more triumphant the majority for
Lord Lansdowne's amendment" said Lord
Morley. tile huger the disparity between
the numbers of the Government and the
numbers of the OPPOSITION. the more fla
grant will be the political scandal
Lord Morley concluded his speech with
an impressive warning that when tO-mOr-
row the curtain fell on an empty house
sounded for an angry and perhaps a pro-
Innged battle. When the Secretary re
sumed his seat the small minority of Lib
eral peers broke into enthusiastic cheers.
Lord James Of Hereford said that IL was
entirely beyond tie Lords competency to
reject the budget. Precedent. practice
usage and acquiescence all came into play
to prevent the house from taking the ac-
tion which Lord Lansdowne contemplated
He added that he separated himself from
his party with regret. and. displaying
great emotion. appealed 10 his fellow
Unionists To reconsider their decision
The coming contest" he said. will be
one-sided. None OF you Will be able 10 de-
fend the course you have taken. and you
will %, at the mercy Of your opponents.
who will not spare you
IN GOnGiuSlOns l~tlu JdutS. VINO -
Conservative ex minister. announced his in
tention to pursue the constitutional path
and vote against the LansdOwne amend
ment. His uncompromsing speech made
an effect on the house second only to Lord
Morley's.
Although the result OF the division to-
morrow is a foregone conclusion. IL cannot
bs. doubted that the House and the cOun-
try have been greatly impressed with the
oratorical skill displayed In the upper
house. and especially by the powerful ar
guments Of the Liberal peers against the
course which the Lords are pursuing Evi-
dence of this IL beginning 10 show itself In
the Conservative press.
The Daily Telegraph" which has been a
firm advocate of the rejection OF the
budget. makes the significant admission
that the moral OF the brilliant debate is not
that the House OF Lords should abolish or
be shorn of the power OF veto, which Is
essential TO its existence. but that Il should
be reconstructed. so that Its more distin-
guished members should net he swamped
H. the Hobbies by the peers who have never
given proof Of political capacity