New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-10-26
KEEN TO LIFT" CUP
SIR THOMAS HERE TO
CH4LLENGE.
Talhts of His Plans for Yacht
Race If Rules Can BE
Changed.

Drought tIle ClallIDth III bNEi mere SiA
years ago in his third effort TO lift" the
Americas Cup. arrived IN this city yester-
day on board the White Star liner Cedric.
He was met by 8 number of friends and
newspaper men. and did not hesitate 10
say that his chief object I'm visiting this
country was 10 confer with the regatta
committee OF the New York Yacht Club
concerning another challenge for the blue
ribbon trophy of the seas.
While rot being willing TO discuss his
plans In detail until after consultation
with members Of the New York Yacht
Club. he inttnaated that Il vas his purpose
or wish 70 challenge for a race In 1911
With an sS-ratsF. if the club, now holding
the Americas Cup, viii accept It under its
own rules. In speaking Of the subject fur
rher Sir Thomas said:
I am red hot for another race, as Il IL
she ambition OF my life to lift that cup
Il have been defeated three times on
American waters. and ! VIII say very
frankly that on each occasion the best boat
has won. This much. however, let me say:
livery time / have challenged the rules
have required that 1 buiid a bigger freak
than the last tine. Five times the rules
Rave been changed since the America won
shs trophy in England. The trip Of the
Cedric has been marked by terrific weather,
which Sc fsir sample Of what may be
encountered st any time by yacht cross
sng the Atlantic. Bringing over freak
Saeht which Il is necessary 20 build under
The present rules. means grave danger TO
xhe Yacht ana 20 the men aboard. have
sost two men already in coming across the
Atlantic. The present rules were made Tor
the Americas Cup race alone. just as
long as those rules continue III foree the
shickest kind Of wall can be built around
she eup ana prevent II FROM being taken
sway from this country.
-sIf they will only let NE race under
the rules Of the New York Yacht Ciun'
instead Of sust enc small, definite set OF
s-7Iles. / am sure I can succeed in attain
sug my ambition At least, under such
conditions I can have no just cause for
COMPLAINT There are two sets or racing
rules existing One is the universal rule,
which is employed in America, and the
other is the international rule Of Europe
What desire is 10 race under the univer-
sal rule. If I can't win under that can
at least provide good sport and that is
rhe urinary reason for all raetng-or, at
least. IL should be.
Under the present rules there is not a
gnan in Europe who can build q yacht.
bring her across The ocean and lift that
cup. This is not my private opinion alone,
il is the opinion of yaehtsHen throughout
Eurepe Since raced here the last time
I have had occasion 10 talk with scores
Of them and know whereof speak.
4 am willing 10 race with 90-footer-
su fact. I do not want TO race with any
thing smaller than that-but see no
chance for myself in racing the sort of
freak boat which is forced upon chal-
lcnger under the present conditions"
Sir Thomas took occasion to say that
fhere are no better sportsmen in the world
than Americans. and that he came here
not asking any favors. but simply good
sporting race He added:
! want to see a race in which each
boat will 50 20 the starting mark with an
"edal chance What is good enough for
America IS good enough for me. but I
can't build a boat III England bring her
scFoss the ocean and hope-if she is a
freaik--to beat ere that you build at your
back door
Il the New York Yacht Club win give
!. me 3 chance 10 race under its own rules.
wiz be ready with yacht by 1911.
At this stage let me say again that 7
have last two men in crossing the ocean.
J attribute their death In large measure to
The fact that they were on freak craft. One
snan was killed by falling mast as stood
~ his side. The other was killed bv a Nv
ing tackle THIS was caused, 7 feel cer-
tain, by the extremely light weight OF the
material used in the construction Of the
boat I don't care 10 XIII any more men
with freak yachts
Sir Thomas was accompanied by his old
friend OF the Royal Ulster Yacht Club.
Colonel Duncan #. j. Nell. and his secre-
tary, John WestWood- W. L. W. Melville
SacneEeF If hts
a. Quarantine ana Colgate Hoyt greeted
him at The pier. During the day his VS.
ftore al tie WadOrf-Astorta included John
d CrImmins, John IL. Flagler George VIII
son and eZ-Commodore Frederick G
Bourne. Of the New York Yacht Club. Sir
Thomas was the guest last night OF Com
modcre Bourne 3 his home at Indian
Neck, Long Island.
Many members of the New York Yacht
Club expressed themselves as pleased that
the Irish baronet was ready and willing to
rake fourth attempt 10 lift the cup.
Lewis Nixon, the naval architect, who
Owls tbs steam Yacht Loudoun and has
been = TnenaDer OF the club for ten years.
said: i sne glad TO hear that Sir Thomas
IS 50 plueky SIS TO make another ATTEMPT
70 win the cup. Another race would. 1 am
sure. be a good stimulus TO the sport of
yachting. An international race is COM
raendaole from any point OF view, and II
She club feels IL is able 10 let down the
bars e little for Sir Thomas, no doubt q
race can be arranged. but, understand me.
tic club has an obligation to perform in
The Carrying out Of the terms OF the deed
Of gift and have no doubt that al they
% viii be doas wisely and for the best in
terests Of al concerned. 1 should ike 10
see q race. and Upton. having sailed sew
s1ty-hve races with his new Shamrock on
the ether side, is certainly a full-hedged
sschteulsn now, and he is always q good
sport
George u CoFmank. secretary OF the
New York Yacht Club. said: Il am glad
70 hear that Sir Thomas Upton is here
snd that be il enjoying good health. 1
have not get been officially Informed Of
his arrival. but shah be glad TO meet him
again"
John z. E1sgier. who has been mem
Der Il tie club twenty three years, said
he would be glad 20 see another race for
the cup, but he thought the chances of
The club making sufficient concessions 20
enable II 20 accept a challenge under the
present rule OF measurement was doubtful
Colonel Robert H. Thompson said: II
should Ike 10 see race. but I doubt If
the club win yield 20 the requests Of Sir
Thomas n respect 10 racing under any
other than tie old rule"
John Il. Hanan.S whose three steam