New-York tribune., 1909-07-31
COURT EXAMINES THAW
Continued from FIRST page.

my province my wish to pass upon his gun gun 81 ~
that time than the statements of the Va[lG4s irt
We women about & White thqg tneg mora sa evtdence T
Q.-what other basis for your belief have you
Q.~But Mr.. Comstock told you. did he not that mat
without confederation these statements "ouI" NJ
sir Mr. Comstock told me he had certain posi'i1e I'VE
proof of these alleged practices; w wi'i' Mr. com
stock was expert OF experts on t.llS @ "a 90 he
cause YOU had only statements of these women
and because ne could get no corfoo~oIaio ~ ~, W
them? Didn't he explain to you the reason why
criminal action that there must 49, ne y
ration of the statements of such women: Ar Al.
What told that he could .ot ger tIn,i SCCn
persons quickly enough and could 9o1 ,of se enough
corroboration to hold them on. ~, -.o.o-
Q.Did you think Mr. T6aw giInp fnan the the story
of her original fall from virtue was 10 be FuSleu'
QDHow long had you held this belief as to
Whites practices? A.-Three years al ODE le8S''
think. I think since the early part of 1910
ABOUT THE MEMORANDA TO DELMAS
o-The next matter that l want to find out
sbout Is the reason of the preparation by you OF
these memoranda for your leading counsel. Mr..
ali indicate TO me thar YOU wanted it brought out
that in killing White you were doing PraISer
Deyd and Goliath or St George and he dragon?
Al objected particularly TO the comparlso" -
Q~But am impressed the reading Of d,t these hs
papers tnat they were statements OF your re"' 'e
o.-Wny did You refer TO Jonathan in that con
9es 70 70" tr2si mpsf aet and that there
such warrant In such punishment. J. pu lou oI,ch
abou. it / hadn't looked it up in the Bible, 1t
0PHow ono ' did it happen that all these comments
we're in the same line. rs justifying the deed Of
They were not all Hike that There was very niue
'' Q@wny did you give these papers AIr, Del
mas? A.-Recause l thought it would assist him
arli w q
know 10 what length Demas would GO Knew ne
Q.-Do you ;hink that with human nature as II
goes there a fair chance 70 influence the jury?
tempting You vere on trial for your life, and
eynTything tat tat might heP You % You % W%na n4{g
Of the preparation of these memoranda? AK,
to take advantage of every chance there might be
to help out my
Thaw reached forward nervously with out
stretch hand and asked Justice Mills IL he
might look AT the papers in question. The justice
smiled kindly however. and said he did not think
he would need to interrogate the witness further
this point We will pass to another topic"
he added.
Then. speaking in fatherly way and with the
same sympathetic look that intended to put
Thaw at his ease. Justice Mills said in low,
conversational tone:
Now. you know Mr. Thaw that the People
are going to argue here as has been indicated
throughout the hearing of this case that the
conduct of your own case shows that you suffer
from what is termed exaggerated ego. You
know what 1 mean?" the justice added, with
kindly nod and Thaw bowed.
SAYS THAw INTERRUPTS COUNSEL
L have been observing you throughout the
trial and have remarked that although you have
the assistance Of one OF the ablest counsel prac-
tising in this department, of the most learned
and respected lawyers in Duchess County you
have been constantly interrupting him with ad-
vice, suggestions and notes"
Thaw's jauntiness of manner was by this time
replaced with a very serious and concerned look.
Justice Mills went
81 have learned that you dismissed your first
attorneys Tell me- Mr.. Thaw, why did you dis
miss your first attorneys"
Thaw braced himself and forced a smile he
answered: I had several attorneys. one of
them the stand here"
Justice Mills continued in his calm and friend
ly way:
Mr.. Thaw this constant change of counsel
indicates to my mind desire for dictation all
the time. Nov. here you are. Mr.. Thaw. a man
not learned in the law, Why. in the perious
position you were in during your first trials.
would you not trust these different lawyers you
had? Have you felt in all these trials and pro-
ceedfngS that you were better able to conduct
this case than your lawyers"
NO. sir" replied Thaw. with evident eager
ness to dispel any unfavorable impression he
might have made on the Court; Il would be a
crazy man if 1 did"
Q.-Then. why don't you trust Mr.. Morschauser?
Q.-Then why ali these suggestions to him, and
Interruptions? IL only underworld to give him
thought he might not have, but which might be
useful.
case than Mr.. Morschauser? A.-No certainly not.
HADN'T FORMED DECISION
Justice Mills then said to Tbaw:
These three points which I have asked you
about left impression on my mind. l wanted
to get a clear idea of your attitude on these
three things. but don't want you to think have
made a decision them; | have not. My pur-
pose in asking you these questions was simply
for my guidance and to get a clearer view
of your attitude them from my own ex-
animation"
Thaw paused a moment. and then clutching
his palmleaf fan and wpng his face with his
handkerchief he walked back to his seat at the
counsel table between Mr.. Morschauser and Mr..
Jerome. He sank into his chair and. as if mind
full for once that the eyes of the crowded court
were upon him, he leaned over and said
something to his mother.
MIR. Jerome started the proceedings yesterday
morning by Immediately calling upon Thaw
again to give his opinion of his own mental
condition at the time of the shooting Of White.
Q.-Do you now think that you were legally in
sane? Al don't know.
Q.--What is your opinion? A-That I was
Q.-What do you mean by saying you may have
been legally insane III The time of the murder of
acquitted me- q the medical who have ex-
ainined for the last three years and of Judge
Morschauser. that there is 10 danger of any re-
currence OF anything