The Washington times., 1909-01-30

Percentage Of MonOxide.
/ Mr.. LOVE-It was just about the
/ same L think, some . or SO PEI cent;
/ l think it was in the neishborl,, ID Of
. per cent.
/ Mr. .SlMS-iuCreasiug the caudlepower
/ OF waite: gas does not increase the car
/ bon monOXide?
/ Mr.. LOFE-Nut at all; thar is due TO
! heavier hydro carbOns.
] Mr.. SIMS-DUe to putting more oil in2
AlT- Lev E-AIOre oil in.
/ MI SLMS-Rut If / got you correctly,
! as general proposition, il is cheaper TO
/ make water gas of high candlepOwer
/ pOWeT2
! Mr. LONE-That 7 could not speak of
/ except ln certain instances. I think IL
/ would vary somewhat in different 10
! MI sIM-To make the p caAdIepow-
/ eI, would IT. not be cheaper than TO
! make it of coal gas at %?
J MT LoNE-Ies; but that would de
( pend on conditions at the different
places.
/ Mr. SIAIs-I mean conditions at the
/ same plant in the same city.
! AIr. LONE-YOu take if i'm New York.
! IheN are making something ike 1900,
/ "J CUBIC feet of coal gas at their Story
works. from which they use tie coke
/ winch Us a residual product I'm lie man
fracture or coal gas. They tugn that
/ INTO Iile water gas, so really you make
} Lhe Two. and 1t makes the production Of
/ mixed gas cheaper on that account.
: Mr.. SINS-DO YOU know enough about
+ CONDITIONS here 10 state which would be
Z the cheaper
/ Mr.. LDF E-NO. sir
/ Mr SIMS-It is mere repetition, but
/ 1 want To see n I understood YOU cor
FecJy this morning. that when there IS
/ "A percentage OF carbon mOnOXide eX-
ceedlhg u or 80, that necessarily means
mere Is no coal gas mixed with gas
/ eIylnE that percentage Of carbon mon
A Small Mixture
Mr. LOVE-l-0 considerable quantity
/ or 10. 1T is, of course, possible to intro
/ duCe small amount.
Mr. Satisfactorily uone2
/ Ar LONE-PUactiealIy none.
! NiL- 9lM9-So, when gas is found to
nave 20 per cent or more that means II
/ mas no coal gas mixed with it,
/ MI LOVE-PraCtically yes, sir.
/ -1i. 81 Al9.-Alf- chairman. / 90 not
know what questions YOU want to ask
/ nht this Is an investigation for infOrma-
J uon- It IS not a. prosecution in any
sense whatever, and we are having diff
IeIent experts here, anC the agents OK
} dlIIerent companies and I would be glad
! that any of them should feel free to ak
] any question that would give us any in
/ formation on the subject
( admit that ] know so little about #
: mat ! do not know really how to ask
. questions so as 70 bring out the facts as
Jhey ought to be brought out
& AI- IAALOR-That is my opinion
aiso- US there any person interested
VINO desires TO ask any uuestiOns2
Mr. SklNNER-In the repOrt that Won
submitted 10 Dr. Remsen, when was
that dated
: Mr.. LOVE-That was embodied in the
{ report or John w. Raymond. dated 1888.
/ MT SkINNER-Are YOU acquainted
: with what DIT. Remseu SAYS in his re-
/ cent Work, Inorganic Chemistry"
/ ABOUT carbon monoElde and water gas.
/ book published IN 1902
Mr. LOVE- believe 1 have read 1t,
/ but do not recall it at the moment.
Another Remsen Statement.
/ Mr.. SKINNER am bringing this out
! because you are apparently contradict
/ ing IN that statement made In pre-
! vious testimony from Prot Reusen' s
4 iec-E-s work, in which he says.
/ The poisonous character OF carbon n1ouoxide
| mas -el To "a great deal OF discussion and TO
/ some legislation on tire subject of water as
/ The question has been repeatedly raised
/ whether governments should allow the man
I uiaeture of the gas
That is a recent opinion Of Prof.
J Remsen
, Mr. LOvE-That is right. nobody
4 questions for single moment the pois-
. OnOus character Of carbOnic oxide
/ There Is not a chemist, so far as /
/ know ln the wide world who would hold
Z NAlHiA Val iff4t iLttlBAtUG was NOT q uOlE0u-
Gus gas. IT lis also equally true that
! several communities have raised this
f question, and raised III quite recently. as
: 10 the advts8bility Of allowing the manu-
tacture and distribution of carbureted
water gas, simply on account OF the
. cdrDonlc oxide lu contains. There is
nothing contradictory In that
Mr.. MURPHY You stated something
as 20 the use Of this gas Iu England and
France. Us 1T used for lighting purposes
or for any purpose I'm Germany
MT LDNE-lt is used for lighting DUP
poses. They use il in London pavtfcu-
larry Tor bringing mp the candlepOW er OF
their coal gas. They manufacture a. low
quality coal gas I'm London
. Mr.. MURPHY asked also about
/ Germany-whether the use Of this was
/ permitted in Germany?
/ Mr.. LONE-It is used also there. and
/ I'm Germany they so so far as to dis
J tribute tiiIs Dluc gas, this uncaTbUreted
/ water gas "Hleh I5 not allowed I'm tIIs
+ country at all, so far as I know. II
[ was tried once or twice, but the results
/ were somewhat disastrous.
A Heavy Oil.
! 2Ir. MURPHY would like TO ask as
! 10 the quality Ct the oil used in the
/ manufacture of that Is it the heavy
! residual oils that are Used2
/ Mr.. Lowell is a heavy oil.
! Mr.. MURPTIY-Is it a resldue2
Mr. LOHE-Noi not at all. Ii has
/ value as gas OIL
Mr. TAYLOR-Is it crude petroleum.
/ Mr.. LONE-N0s although la certain
! processes crude petroleum can be used.
Mr. SlMS-Are you connected with
! any gas company or gas manufacturing
establishments
/ Mr. LONE-NOue whatever. sir.
! have been gas examiner for New York
! for something over 20 years.
/ Mr. MGRPHT-Yuu make a daily in
/ spectiou Of gas for oandlep0wer2
/ MI LOVE- do not personally. We
| have twenty gas supplies I'm New York
city, and i have twelve testing stations
under nay charge.
Mr. AIUBPHY-Are they tested every
day.
MT LOVE-Ve have a man in each
station. and me makes daily tests Of the
! caudlepoWer of the gas
Mr.. MURFHY-DO you make daily
! tests of the British thermal units?
! Mr. LONE-Not at all That Is not
| one of the requirements of the charter.
/ MI MURPHY-YOu have no such re-
! quiremcut in the charter, and no such
/ roEuIatiou2
Mr.. LONE-Nothing whatever. regard.
/ ing the heating power of the gas
Mr.. MURPHY-Is the gss used for
| heating power
Mr. LONE-OA. yes. q good deal
/ Mr. AIUEPHN-Do YOU have separate
meters for heating and lighting
/ Mr. LDNE-N0. only one price.
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