East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, OR) 1888-current, 1909-11-26
BaIfour and RoSeberry Rise in
House of Lords to Defend
Measure.
SPEECHES DAMPEN con-
FIDENCE OF CONSERVATIVES
Balfour Declares That If House Wins
Its Victory IL is But Temporary. If
Loses Has Jeopardized Power and
Prestige of Body-Bishop of Here
ford Advocates Prelates Voting
People Hold Demonstrations In
Square.

London, Nov. EFF you win
victory it will be only a temporary
one; if you lose, you have prejudiced
the position. power and usefulness of
the house of lords, which | believe
every one of you honors and desires
tc serve heartily as | do myself
In this homely. candid fashion. Lord
Balfour of Burleigh. last night told
members of the house of lords his op-
inion of the course they are pursuing
with regard to the budget. He has
none of the graces of oratory which
Lord RoseberTy possesses, but his
plain manner is not without effect
and his speech was the real event of
yesterdays sitting of the upper cham
ber.
1t probably will have even greater
Influence than that of Lord Rose
berry. because Roseberry no longer
holds the confidence of any party.
The bishop of Herford, who inter-
vened later in the debate. said that,
while he respected the archbishop OF
abstain from voting on the measure,
he claimed the right to the exercise
OF independent judgment. If the bish-
ops had any function to perform II
was to speak for the multitudinous
poor. he said.
Therefore. he supported the budget.
which was social welfare budget,
based or sound finance. He was con-
vinced. he declared. that the country's
answer to an appeal to the ballot
would be in clear English that never
eZain shall the fundamental liberties
Of the people be endangered by pri-
vileged class. He wished the budget
might be passed as protection
against the rapidly growing spirit of
revolt among the democracy, which
might become dangerous.
Many other peers spoke along ordi-
nary party lines. The debate was ad-
iourned until Monday, when Viscount
Morley. Lord Curzon and Lord Roth
schild are expected to speak.
Rumors were current last night that
conservative leaders. seeing the dam
aging effect that the speeches of Lords
Cromer Roseberry and Balfour are
likely to have on the conservative
cause in an election. are reconsider
ing their position with regard to the
budget. But the best information in
dicates that Lord Lansdowne's reso-
luton against the adoption of the
budget will go to a division and be
carried by an enormous majority.
\ great pro-budget demonstration
took place last night in parliament
square. Six thousand persons gath
cred. sang political songs and cheered
for David Lloyd George, chancellor oi
the excecduer. Fifteen hundred police
finally cleared the square. The dem
orstrations probably will be repeated
on q larger scale Monday and Tues
day.
Lord Palfour said n referendum was
impossible as 4 matter Of practice, and
| that he also believed the motion pru,
roScd by Lord Isansdovne was unwise
tIIe assorted that there never was q
trplc when q strong and conservative
second chamber was more necessary
and he considered il imnolitic to miN
tho question Of the defense of thai
chamber with the taxation of food.
Lord Rnlfour warned the lords that
they were walking into n trap set Ivy
their opponents and that the step ad-
vocated by Lord Lansdowne was false
alike to the interests of the country
and to the house of lords