Los Angeles herald., 1909-10-29

a. Little bit more than a month.
q. And then came back to the United
States?
A. Yes, 1 came back to the United States.
q. Through what town?
A. Ell PasO.
q. In October, 1908?
A. Yes, last year.
q. What time in October?
A. cannot recollect exactly the date.
q. The latter part middle part or
early part of the month?
A. About the first days of October.
@. You came across from Juarez?
A. Yes.
@. Were you examined by the immigra-
tion officer?
A. Yes, by the inspector immigration Off
Ger; he asked where L lived told him my
home was here in Los Angeles and he asked
me the common questions.
@. Are you a naturalized citizen of the
United States?
A. No, sir!
O. You have never taken out any papers
at all?
A. No.
q. How old are you?
A. 81 years.
@. What Is your occupation?
A. 1 am a writer, but in the last year l
have been lecturing under the auspices of
the socialist party, and in the meantime 1
am conducting rOoming house in Los An
geles with my wife-424 West 4th street.
@. What is your wife's name?
A. Hattie Gutierrez de Lara.
Q. Is she born in the United States?
4. Yes.
q. Where?
A. In Kentucky.
@. How long have you been married to
her?
A. The Sd day of August. this year.
@. On Sunday, the 10th Of this month
OetOber-were you lecturing down on the
Plaza?
A. Yes, a week from Sunday-yes.
@. At that time did you express your
feelings toward this government and other
governments?
A. In what way?
@. AS to what you believe?
A. WELL 1 need to have some exact ques-
tiOn because L was arrested under the
charge of disturbing the peace and have
been released under this charge; and during
the days L was in the Jail the detectives
surrounded me, and had what they cali the
third degree" They called me anarchist,
and / am not anarchist. do not believe
to the anarchist belief. I am n socialist.
am a member of the socialist party here in
Los Angeles, and / has been appointed the
national association of the socialist party,
and has been lecturing in the Plaza for
three years except the time that has been
Iecturing ON socialism. And If L criticized
the government L criticized from the stand
point of sOcialism-of the sOclallsI primer
pies.
O. You Iectured more or less during the
past year in Los Angeles on socialism?
A. No, few times have lectured here.
have been Iecturing around the state of
California and in part of Arizona. My spe-
cial lecture-the main subject of my lecture
was the history of Mexico.
O. Do you believe in uphOlding the
United States government laws?
A. 1 don't understand. 1 am afraid to
give YOU an answer that will be used as
weapon against me until you ask clear
question.
@. You believe then that our form of
Government should be changed?
The entire form of government SnOulu
be changed.
@. Do you believe that?
A. Well, 1 will tell you my belief. be-
lieye the government must hold the ran
roads the factOriesj all the industries must
he owned by the government. That is the
socialist belief; also mines, steamships
banks. ,. .5. .to
President of the United States?
A. Well, respect him as President or
tho limited states 1 recognize the people
have appointed him PRESIDENT and ne must
he respected as President.
O. Do you think that our form of gov
ernment should be substituted for some other
form?
care about the form of government in the
Trnited states in general. L have the social
ist nrincipIe which are genera, principles of
the worId-which are the principles OF the
organized working class. 1 believe all the
ooyernments of the whole world should own
ali the enthusiastically
lines.
o Do YOU think that the Congress and
tba Government officials should be compelled
10 snbstitute the form of government that
Won suggest for the that Is in existence
now? A..
A. Well, 1 do not see very clearly that
question which you will pardon me about
that matter, but 1 am not very clear.
have showed to you my principles In regard
10 government, that is believe that the
Government must own all the industries of
1roduction and distribution. For instance,
mines and factories and railroads and banks,
and the steamship lines as the government
own right now the post office, the mails the
schools and the thOrOughfares-in the same
line.
be brought about?
A, nv the education of the people. Edu-
eating the people, and show to that people
that this economic theory Is the best; and
shov the people by the possible means to
vote they may choose their representatives
and the officials of the government.
o. Do you be ieve the head of the govern
ment ought to be president1
A. WELL yes, of course; you have seen
that which over a free ballot about year
ago and more than half million votes for
socialist president Eugene v. Debs. You
know that in France that the premier in
France Is a socialist. and a large majority
of the cabinet Is socialist. Here Mr. Taft
about two weeks ago advocated one social
ist principIe-he advocated government
ownership of the banks.
o. Do you think the United States gov
ernment has a tendency to protect the caDi-