The Pensacola journal. (Pensacola, Fla.) 1898-1985, 1909-08-07

detectives in PittSburg and for sew
eral years employed By Tha~ as
private detective, rs the first witness
Mr.. O'Mara was commissioned h,
Thaw to investigate his charge
against Stanford White. Mr.. Mors
chauser called him today to substan
tiRte. stories told on the stand yester
day by Thaw.
The witness related his experienc,
in 1901 with the girl, said to be nov
prominent actress, whose stOr!
Thaw already had told. Mr.. OMAR
said he saw both this girl and he
mother and what they told hin
agreed with ThRw's assertions.
Did you believe this was true?'
asked Jerome.
Yes, it looked plausible, and l saw
no reason why she should tell me
this story if it was not true"
O'Mara said the girl told him that
White was preventing her from get
ting a position at any show.
District Attorney Jerome asked the
witness if he had ever before tho
first trial heard stories regarding i'm
moral practices by Thaw. Mr.. nMara
said he had not.
ALL WAN 7 ed MONEY.
The detective said he had read
many letters from women to Thav s
attorneys. Generally" he remark
ed, they ended Dy wanting some
money and 1 would tear them up and
throw them away"
4 did not get enough to pay my
expenses. / was not in it for money.
/ knew Mr.. Thaw as a boy and ]
came down here Of my own accord to
do what I could"
But how much did you get?" per-
sisted Jerome.
Il did not get over $4,000 in all.
l was here eleven weeks during the
first trial and during part Of the sec
ono"
Were you ever called upon to
settle any matters In Pittsburg in
which Harry Thaw was invoIved?"
Never"
COR elsewhere?"
mo sir"
Did this story Of an actress, ex-
perienced in the ways Of New York,
that one of the prominent men in
New York tried to wrong her in a
room in Madison Square Garden
tower. seem true to your sophisticat-
ed mind?"
Yes, l thought it was probable"
MRS. THAW CALLED.
O'MaTa was excused and Mr. Nor
schauseT called Mrs. Mary Copley
Thaw to the stand. She was asked
to explain Detective O'Mara's posi-
ton
Mr.. O'Mara came into this case"
she testified, because he said he
wanted to DO all he could for
Mr.. Thaw's boy. l think his position
in this case was like that of Millions
angels" and she quoted:
They also serve who only stand
and wait"
Mrs. Thaw then produced a chart
showing 208 members OF the family,
including every descendant of the
prisoners great grand father. The
paper was offered in evidence. She
named two cousins of Harry-William
and Harrieta Thaw, brother and sis
ter, and said these were the only
cases of insanity she had ever known
In the family. And they" she said,
got their insanity from their mother"
Two members of the Copley family.
she said, we're epilepttcs.
The witness explained HaTry's al
eged wild actions at the wedding of
mis- sister Alice to the Earl of Var
mouth. She denied that her son had
thrown a loving cup out of the win
low. The cup was thrown out by
some one else, she said, in pursuance |
IF an English wedding custom.
That's one of the thousands Of |
stories that were built up out Of dis
.orted facts"
Other tales supposed to illustrate |
Thaw's insanity were explained by |
lis mother. One about playing the
piano at night resulted from the fact |
hat Reginald de KOven, the COM |
poser, was the family guest, and he
md Harry played until 3 a N. Mrs.
Thav continued:
This combination 1 mentioned in |
nv pamphlet was very active"
She spoke with particular bitter
less of DR.. Allan Hamilton. This |
IIienist. she asserted. told her that if /
he would submit to the plan of
ending Harry to Matteawan he
HamiIton) would arrange that Thaw
hould have a suite of rooms and
every comfort ana JudL sue anu
Ter daughters might visit him as Of
en- as they chose.
EVIDENCE EXAGGERATED.
Mrs. Thaw asserted that Mrs.
fletcher, the Harvard archaeologtst
nd Harry's former teacher, had ex-
ressed regret and shed tears ever
he manner in which the evidence
vas exaggerated to show Thaw's IN
ound mind. The witness used the
-ord torture in referring to Dis
rict AttOrneq JerOme's treatment Of
er son.
When she quoted JerOme's alleged
lords. this man is now in the place
here l hope he will be kept the rest
f his life" tears came to her eyes
nd she had TO pause to recover her
elf control.
She declared that Harry had moth
lg to do with the preparation of her
amphlet, The Secret Unveiled, at
acking Jerome. :
Mr.. Morsehauser asked the witness
, name some of HaTry's associates I
ion ~ his ruorrioUn Her answer l