Semi-weekly herald., 1909-09-13
FLORIDA PIPE
LINE PROPOSITION


marks Of J. j. L,Imsden OF Grand
Junction regarding installing new pipe
line for tie city water work.. The
meeting was called for 1880 and every
member of the council along with the
city attorney was present. The mayor
stated that the meeting was entirely
informal-no business. and he called
upon Water Superintendent Schalles
to state the object.
Mr.. Schalles said that he thought
It advisable for the members of the
council to listen to Mr.. Lumsden who
WIS an experienced man In construc-
tion of water works. especially as Du-
range was considering putting in
new pipe line or repairing the one now
In use. During the afternoon Mr..
Lumsden had accompanied Messrs.
Graden. Morelock and Nelson and him
self over a portion Of the line.
In this connection The Herald will
state that Mr.. Lumsden is one of the
contractors installing the new water
system at Canon City costing $345,O0O
to bring the water to the city limits,
including reservoirs and filters. The
pipe line runs through the Royal
gorge. Mr.. Lumsden figured on diff
ferent kinds of pipe line for the Can
on City contract, hence is pretty well
posted.
In addressing the council Mr.. Lums-
den said he had no interest in the
manufacture of pipe-no particular in
terest in cast iron, steel. vitrified or
stave. He had used different kinds
and found steel the most satisfactory.
He had used wood, but had never
known wood to be used that did not
leak. much depending on the pressure
He said when people tell about wood
pipe not leaking 1t was contrary to
his experience. He said by placing
bands close together good service can
be secured, but steel pipe never gave
any trouble. He thought 12 gauge
1t would be the cheapest In the long
run. Wood pipe only lasted as hong as
the bands. Vitriiled pipe was the best
where there was no particular pres
not stand great pressure. Mr.. Lums
den said steel pipe was made in Den
yer and could be secured at least
sixty days in advance of Oregon fir
rtrap ln
tendent of the water works could take
crew of men and do the work The
steel pipe is coated with a specially
prepared preparation which does not
corrode and is guaranteed under bond
by the manufacturers. The firm gen
orally sends man along who looks
after the laying and will give bond
for laying in the trench along with
connections. He said II Oregon fir
is used 1t means n long delay-that
1t required thirty-six days to get one
car to Canon City and that 1t re-
quired much longer time before the
material is shipped as the Oregon peo.
pie were behind In their orders.
Mr.. Lumsden said he had been over
a portion of the pipe line and 1t was
his opinion that new pipe would have
to be put In very soon. that jam
was liable to occur and the line In
danger of giving away in a dozen
places. Then followed series of
questions by members of the council
and the mayor. Mr.. Lumsden said the
life OF steel pipe averaged about thir.
ty-two years. The pipe was coated
inside and out by being placed in "a
boiling vat Of the mixture and this
became hard and would not wear off, |
except through long usage or a good |
deal OF sand passing through the pipe |
but 1t was on the outside where pipe |
deteriorated and this mixture preserv |
ed. He said he was using wood at |
Canon City because of the difference |
In cost of eight miles OF pipe where
thirty-lnch pipe was used, the differ
ence in cost being about $4,000, but
by using 1Sh and 171s inch steel pipe
so 1t could be telcscoped in shipping.
did not think there would be any dif.
ference in cost between the steel and
stave pipe. He said even in the larger
size Canon City saw its mistake and
tried to have change made but as
the stave pipe had been ordered the
change could not be made without too
much expense, hence Canon City pipe
line will be of Oregon fir The rela-
tive value OF Oregon FIR and Oregon
red wood was discussed.
In regard to steel pipe there would
be no charge for angles up 10 23
degrees. Mr.. Lumsden said Oregon
ir might last rs long under pressure
rs steel pipe, much depending on the
coating, but 1t was impossible to keep {
high pressure at all points all the I
line. He said Ouray put in steel pipe Q
which had been In use twenty-seyen /
ears. In answer to another ques. q
lon Mr.. Lumsden said It would be u
dvisable to lay the pipe on solid
Then he told how the C. F.
!. Co. was encasing a wooden pipe Il
IN In solid cement costing s. per q