The sun., 1909-01-19
LABOR Dimes WITH CAPITAL
PLiIN SPEAKING AT THE ECO
NOMIC CLUES DINNER.
kclr Hardle Says American Workin Emen
Must Resort 10 Socialism President
Harry 4. GARFIELD and Chief stone
see signs OF a Better Understa landing.

- Kpr Hardie, leader Of the Labor party
IN the House of Commons, was one Of the
speakers last night at the dinner OF the
Economic Club at the Hotel Astor. Mr.
Hardie said he believed that the con-
flnuance OF present social conditions
WAS impossible and that socialism was
inevitable. The workingmen in this
country must organize politically. he
said, not as an accessory Of the Demo-
cratic party~or of the Republican party
but as an independent force. Il say
that what we are lighting for Mr.. Har-
die continued, "is class legislation and
class representation, because there are
class interests to be preserved
The diners took up the whole north side OF
one floor OF the hotel-some $50 were pres
ent in all. A. Barton Hepburn presided
and the other speakers besides Mr.. Har-
die. wero President Harry A. Garfield OF
Williams College; Warren s. Stone, grand
chief Of the International brotherhood
Of Locomotive Engineers; Charles f. lht-
tlefeld and Harold f. Gorst
Others present were Charles Ram
Kennedy, the Rev DIR. Charles + Aked,
Robert T.. Ely. Isaac \. Seligman, Ed
ward Lauterbach. Henry Clews. the Rev.
Thomas r. Sicer. Rollo Ogden, Francis
Lynde Stetson. Dean Sage, F. Augustus
Heinze, William Ghent. John Martin,
James G. Beemer Rastus 5. Ransom,
Hamilton Holt A. s. Frissell. Prof. John
n. Clark, Marcus NJ Marks, Walter II.
Page, Henry Bru6re. James B. Reynolds,
Everitt Macy, h. j. Grecnhut. Prof.
Walter F.. Clark, Edwin r. A. Seligman,
Charles Il. Flint, Jacob II. Schih. John
Harsen Rhoades. Lee Speyer. Jefferson
NJ. Levy. Ludwig Nissen, William D.
Roome, William Forster. James h. APP
gar. DR.. J. NJ. Leipziger, Samuel Inter
uver, Gaylord wiltshire, Robert Hunter,
Paul NJ. Herzog, william Church Osborne
George W. Wickersham DR.. Albert Shaw
and John MacCracSen.
President Garfield said that in spite
Of strikes and lockouts he believed the
labor organizations had brought the
country nearer "A respect for laws, and
IN support Of this contention cited the
violent attitude of labor leaders decade
ago. and said that the leaders. of labor
unions to-day disclaim any desire Tor
violent means.
but in place of violence he con
tinued. there is now an evasion OF law
subtle Both parties have boon guilty
in this respect There Is condemnation
10 I've visited upon men who have been
highly trained and well educated and who
seek to gain benefits by evasion Of the
law. IL these men try TO accomplish
their ends 10y such means, what are We
to expect Of the uneducatedE
-The coal strikes in Pennsylvania, he
went on set us thinking and II ade us
know that there were two sldes to the
labor question The better the ol ganiLa-
tion Of both capital and labor the more
effective will be any attempt a. arbiua-
tion-ths more ready both sides VIII be
To resort to Arbitration.
'The labor unions and the labor troubles
which Sa, have been through have made
Il plain to'ust that the public Is the thi'
party in elterest The public loses by the
warfare and the public insists on pel'e
between the two sides and some day will
insist il the parties cannotrea'h an aIi"''-
ment without resorting In violence thit
compulsory arbitration must h" force on
Warren S. Stone. speaking from the
labor side, declared that th"ro WIS no
necessary strife between cat it"l and
labor" and said that h" recognized that
each had rights and that both have hcra
wrong at times and that both have made
mistakes "The railroad orEdni IliiioEs,
he said, stand before tho world to-day
as the highest type Of labor orgdnlA-
tions the world has ever known.
If carita! could be brought 10 r"..T".
he said. una, certain portion of th"
wages paid to labor stands for ia. 'NNau~-
tinn Of the prncIVal-fOr the wear ard
tear of the machinery Of the mdn-th"U
think capital would nave letter GnGer-
stanCing Of tho :rue ground uI on which
rests the claim OF labor for moro COM
pensation than merely enough 1" "Ni"t
rpon. No thinking man viii Geny ihd'
L, lg..r D. - . I,a-
.ilt.Jn before | has any profit, 80 II -
with labor. ine entire CaLitdi Ci The
worRnrmau H. itr muscl" cncrG. a.,
brain power which Gay hy cay ar" rng
worn out urt.I eventually h" guc@ To the
SCRAP pile OF cDmmcTIltl iNCLst?J q" -
mIcl worn out JUNK
-Bchind the prosert arsregat,ons o:
capital on the one hand and OF labor
On the other the thinking man may ~
r,alv ace the vague shadow of "a TcO!-
gtn.zatlon of society. Tne day has gone
~ wnen laborlng men can be voted IKE
dumb cattle.
Nlr. Stone said it was not the piescn;
injunction law but us abuse ttai lalor
objects to. and quoted the r1c'ut 'cs'on
uy Justice Wright Oh tins decision Air.
Stone said:
II H. Interpretation OF the rights
Guaranteed to the wOriingman dor
IN, Constitution is the correct one then
the workingmen of America are On
larity with the Russian serf-. for they
Lave neither free speech nor Tree press.
uCh decisions engender C,aSs hatred,
undermine the faith of the people i'll the
Constitution and have a teniency to
destroy the confidence Of the latCring
classes in the impartiality OF our courts
"Gentlemcn, he siSd in conclusion.
"aIi that stands between you and your
wealth and the wave of anarchy that
would sweep over you Is the conservative
lahor unions-destroy them and the days
Of the Commune will be lived over again"
Mr. Littlefeld devoted mos, Of his au-
dress to quoting the present law on labor
questions including decisions handed
down by Judge Taft while on the bench,
~ Mir. Taft's predecessor Mr.. Lttle.ie.d
had this TO say in passing the gentle
man who lately presided over the des-
TIMES of this republic and who ! Relieve
stI presides over these destnies-mlnd
YOU, that is only my opinion. ! don't
pretend to know whether the executive
or the judicial branch at the pre- mt
moment is in the ascendant
hmoment later. speaking of the anthra-
Clte coal strike commission, Mr.. Little
fed sad that the appointment Of that
commission had been called ul'ra wires,
and Il have no doutt it was Leyond the
rowsr Of the President 10 appoint such
= commiss on he said. Blu. u * one of
the things win CT the President did
beyond his poAer that have produced
valuable res u.ts.
Mr. Hardie followed ex-Congress