The Washington herald. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1906-1939, 1909-01-30

We did not attempt to examine II De-
cause It was suicidal But. aside from
that, the experience usually is that TIE
gas begins 10 come Into TIE room where
the person is. sometimes in the evening
when be Is going TO bed. and that Il con-
tinues to come into the room until some
time in the morning OF the next day.
before there IS any alarm given. or be-
fore his absence occasions any inquiry
for him. That Is the usual experience,
and under those conditions the fatalities
and recoveries seem 70 be about as regu-
( lar, without much regard TO which gas IS
used
Mr.. Slms-And the argument IN favor
OF the using Of The water gas. or per
hitting its use as a mixed gas. has been
upon the idea that n practice fl causes
no more fatal or dangerous results. and
( that il is cheaper and OF higher Hlumi-
mating power2
Dir. Barker-Yes. sir.
/ Dir. Murphy-Cheaper to manufacture?
Mr. Sims-Cheaper to manufacture: that
| is what ] mesn. II would make no differ
ence. would il. as an economic Droposi-
/ ton. 10 a manufacturing company as to
whether they used coal or water gas,
providing they we're allowed to have the
same percentage Of earnings upon the
/ investment?
Dir. Barker-weli, It does not occur to
ne that It would.
1 Mr.. Sims-lf there was az arbitrary
/ price fixed for both gases. or any gas
used then I could see why a company
would desire to make the cheapest gas.
+ but II the price Is fixed upon the cost OF
manufacture 10 the company and the IN
vestment therefor. then il would not
make any difference 10 the company
whether they made coal or water gas
/ exclusively, II they got the same Per
/ cent Of earnings upon the investment?
/ Mr.. Barker-No; they could probably
continue in that attitude for any length
I OF time
/ sIr slms-We are assured here by gen
tlemen who know whereof they speak.
/ from the standpoint Of the company, that
water gas was not adopted here from
economic reasons. but on account OF the
candle power required they have 20 use
oil 10 such an extent that the gas com
! paay has no beEeat from the manufacture
( CT water gas.
/ Mr.. Barker can understand that
/ Sir. Sims-Then they would have 20 in
/ terest IN Il excepting changing their
/ plant so as to manufacture coal gas ex-
/ eiuslvelv2
Mr.. Barker-I can understand very wen
/ the necessity for the use Of water gas 20
obtain a high and satisfactory candle
/ power, a satisfactory gas OF high
/ candle power.
Mr. Murphy-Do you mean It cannot
DE obtained with coal gas2
I Mr. Barker-Yes. sir. / DO not think
( that as satisfactory a gas of high candle
power can be obtained with coal gas.
/ Mr.. Murphy-The ordinary candle
I power used in Illuminating cities. say
/ % candle power. IS. -, or 20
NJ. Barker-No. SIT; that VIII not be
made in the coal gas works. IN an ex-
clUsively coal gas works. as a salts
{ factory gas Il never has been 10 my
( knowledge
Mr- Sius-Which is q better gas %
use FOR heating purposes, water or ex-
cluslveiy coal gas2
Air. Barker-WelI. strictly speaking.
( think that theoretically the coal gas has 3
+ tTife higher heating power.
f Mr. sims-Speaking alone FOR myself
and this being thes Capital City. and We
are trying 10 keep Ii in condition 10 be
( beautiful, and so forth. I thought Il gss
Z % the interest Of the people here 10 use
gas for heating purposes as much as pos
+ that come out OF the use Of coal or other
I fuel and IL gas can be made that can be
used FOR heating purposes. cooking
{ ranges. gas heaters. and things Of that
sort. II seems 70 ne as If We ought 70
+ encourage Il IN this city. especially rather
than retsrd H.
/ sIr Barker-I presume the gas was
/ probably used in this city now largely for
+ cooking purposes. but very little for heat
/ ing purposes
/ Mr. Sim+They have small gas heaters
! in bathrooms and small rooms. and the
+ Ike OF that. now.
/ Nr. Barker-Yes, but It is really a small
+ use
Mr.. slms-Yes. IT might be ignored en-
tirely,
Mr.. TaylOr-You refer to heating
! houses2
Mr.. Barlzer-I refer 20 heating houses
Illuminating rooms is q regular method
I suspect that where gas Is used for heat
I Ing rooms il IS only Internationally used.
occasionally.
Mr.. S!ms-I have heard people say here
that TO cook exclusively with gas costs
them less than the coal
( Mr.. Barker-That demands a low-priCed
gas.
/ Mr.. Sins-We are coming right 10 the
point Can you make s. Iow-priced gas
with water and REINFORCE it with Oh
/ Sufficient 10 make a 22-candle power gas.
/ Mr. BaTker-Oh. yes.
AIr. Sims-To raise It 10 the 2 candle
/ power. viii you make any cheaper gas
than you weuld TO make coal gas Of g
/ higher candle power?
1ir. Barker-Oh. yes; the fact Is that
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/ mixture Of steam and oil. Steam and oil
are used together To- manufacture the
csrburetted water gas.
/ Mr. Sims-In using carburetted water
I gas as fuel for cooking ranges, viii il OF
way. than coal gas2
Mr. BaTker-I think not cannot see
Why.
M SiHlS-Tour Investigations that you
have previously referred 10 are the basis
OF your conclusions in the natter
Mr.. Barker-Yes, sir
Mr. TaylCr-Several gentlemen from Ou1
Of the city. Mr.. Sims, are here 70 be
heard
Mr.. sims-weH. thought that If We
/ could get the information out now. We
had better do So
/ Mr.. GOIdsbOToUgh-1fr. Barker, in ref
erence TO the relative cost you speak Of.
you have IN mind the economies Of using
coke In the water gas process, have you
not. OF using the two together. rather
than the economies Of two separate prop
ositions?
Mr.. Barker-Yes, that IS 70 say. using
a mixed gas, as understand IS the cass
in this city. II is very likely that tbs
two gases are very closely equivalent II
cost. but II you were TO make either Of
them exclusively, 7 should expect TO find
the cost increased, and very largely In
creased If It were to be exclusively Goa
gas.
Mr.. Sims-In other words. If this BIZ
is passed limiting the carbon monoxide
10 10 Per cent, making 1t impossible Il
use. water gas. then the cost Of coal gas