The Birmingham age-herald. [volume] (Birmingham, Ala.) 1902-1950, 1909-08-06
THAW TALKS OF
STANFORD WHITE
Celebrated Prisoner Defends
Animus Toward White
MANY UNSAV0RY STORIES
Thaw Tells of Young Girls Whom
White Wroneed and Mrs. Mary
Thaw Takes the Stand in
Her Sons Behalf.
MANY UNSAVORY STORIES

White Plains, y. Y, August 5.-Most of
those stories which have stained the mem
ory of the eminent architect Stanford
White. stories that paralleled the tale
of the Madison Square tower room, as
told by Evelyn Nesbit Thaw, were re-
lated at the Thaw sanity hearing before
Justice Mills today. They were told first
by witnesses called in Harry K. Thaw's
behalf, and then by Thaw himself, who
took the stand hoping to show that what
he knew about White were not "delu-
sions,' as the state commended and that
this phase of the states attack on his
sanity is unfounded.
Between these unsavory accounts, like
a jewel held up to view between soiled
fingers, came an illustration of mother
love and filial affection that brought tears
even to the eyes Of those eager-faced
woman who had refused TO leave the court
room when warned of the kind of testi-
mony that was to come. This was the
appearance on the stand of Mrs Mary
Copley Thaw, the prisoners white-haired
mother.
Adjournment was taken today just after
Thaw had left the stand. He may be
called again tomorrow. The attorneys
will sum up on Saturday and Justice
Mills hopes to render a decision some
time next week.
Charles Morschauser started off the day
by calling to the stand David N Carval-
no, the New York handwriting expert.
Mr.. Carvalho told of episodes connecting
Stanford White with two young women
is Mae Mckenzie. an actress, who ap-
peared several times at the trials with
Evelyn Nesbit Thaw, the other name was
given as Sue Parker"
From Miss Mckenzie Thaw's attor-
ney had obtained note which figured
in the trials as the mushroom letter.
White was represented as the auth or.
It was read in court today. 1t was con-
corning this letter that Miss Mckenzie
had said according to Thaw, that her
father would kill both her and White
If he had seen the contents.
Mr.. Carvalho testified to an af-
fidavit which he said Sue Parker"
made, describing an alleged attempt of
White to ruin her when she first came
to New York as a young chorus girl.
In addition he placed in evidence
number of letters said to have been
which she sold to Thaw's attorneys be-
fore the first trial for $500. The let
ters were not read today.
1t was at the beginning of the aft
ernoon session that Thaw took the
stand. Then the New York district
attorney seemed anxious to let him tell
all he knew and he led him through
one sordid story after another, evil
IDENTIFY with the hope that the witness
III 10 fol m 1iS
theme would show Justice Mills that
he was insane on the subject. And
Thaw was eager to tell. The words
fairly tripped over each other as he
ran on.
This thing I am going to tell you
now" he said, prefacing one of his mar
ratives. affected me very seriously at
the time"
Continuing he described in detail the
alleged experience of a girl whom he
said White tried to wrong when she
was but 16. He said that after winning
her confidence by display of disin-
terested friendship. White lured the
girl to his place on Twenty-fourth
street, New York.
The girl escaped through a lucky
chance he said, and later obtained a
large sum of monye from White under
threat of suit. After that. he continued,
white ndU the girl DOy Golltu So lldl LOT
several years she could not obtain
engagement in any theatre in New York.
The Incident as related occurred within
a month of He events In the Madison
Square tower room, narrated at the trial
by Evelyn Thaw. This woman now"
concluded Thaw, lis one of the foremost
actresses on the American stage"
According to Thaw, these were not all
of the tales he could tell about the man
he killed He gave the location of four
places he said White maintained for i'm
moral purposes. One was in Maryland,
near Baltimore. Thaw said 1t was called
1.-The Blind" The others were In New
York
The aged Mrs. Thaws appearance on
the stand was pathetic Before she had
spoken two minutes her feelings over
came her and she paused. Despite her
tears she insisted on having 1t over"
The other witnesses today included two
former teachers and a schoolmate Of
Thaw, who declared that he seemed per
fectly normal when they knew him.