The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1909-07-31

uehled that he had ever rented rooms
at the latter's houses.
DO you think you were innocent or
guilty when you killed White?" asked
Jerome nlmbly jumping back again.
Justlce Mills put the question this
way.
SO you think you are now an inno-
cent man in the eyes of the law"
As the law is laid down for a Jury"
answered Thaw, Il think I am limo
cent"
"Why?"
Thaw murmured something about
brain storm"
Jerome asked about the story that he
once scalded a girl in hot bath tub and
that he had taken a girl named Ruth
Lambert automobiling in Paris and
brought her back naked with welts from
a beating.
Crazy lies.' said Thaw contemptu-
ously.
Refreshing his memory from a manu-
script in his hand, the district attor-
new recalled other scandalous stories
about the witness that came out during
his trials. ThaWs comment was the
same, Lies"
The witness was again at his ease.
Tales OF cruelty in early yOuth-beat-
ing boy and driving a horse TO death.
the former told the sanity commission
by a cousin named Lyons, the latter by
his brother, Josiah Thaw-the witness
likewise denied. His explanation was
that his relatives in their zeal to save
him on the insanity plea, might have
used or exaggerated ''mere rumors."
Wasn't it true that you were known
as Mad Harry'?" questioned Jerome.
"crazy Jerome"
yes, I might have been called that;
but the same thing may be true OF al
most anybody. For instance, I've heard
you called Crazy Jerome but for that
reason 1 don't think you are insane"
Why did you think you and your
wife might take Pittsburg by storm and
that you might be senator from Penn
sylvania ?" went on Jerome. referring TO
a letter in which the witness made these
remarks
I do not know. We would have set
tied down comfortably and got along.
In my case money would not have been
as much of a handicap to a political ca
reer as in most cases.
MY father" explained Thaw, made
his money mainly in railroad building
and in starting his lines. In other
words. he made SO for his country for
every one for himself. and he gave twice
as much to charity as he gave to me and
my brothers and sisters"
And did you think" said Jerome
COntemptuOuSly that man who could
not spell and who could not use the En-
glish language correctly could ever be
senator from Pennsylvania? ?"
The question passed unanswered.
Why Father Was Angered.
Thaw explained his fathers discrim-
nations against him in his will by
the fact that his father was i'll when he
wrote this codicil and might have been
angered by his (HaTry's) failure to come
and see him.
Later Thaw pleaded with Jerome not
to push his examinations regarding one
of the unfortunate girls mentioned in
his own will.
4 have heard that she is trying to
lead a better life" he explained, ''and
you would pull her down"
jerome dropped this line Of interroga-
ton.
Thaw declared that his valet Bed
fOrd's death was indirectly due to his
treatment by the district attorneys Of (
flee. Although Bedford was sick, the
witness said, he was compelled to wait
about Jerome's Office on two days with
was sent to the hospital, where he died
Of appendicitis.
The relatOr pointed out several mis-
takes that he said Jerome had made in
the trial. In these remarks he referred
to his wife as poor Evelyn"
Jerome introduced Thaw's notes on
the conduct Of his lawyers at the two
trials in which the attorneys were
censured.
I hate to read this" remarked the
prisoner.
IT am afraid these gentlemen may
come in here and testify that I'm in
sane"
NO danger" said Jerome.
Thaw was excused vt noon by Jerome
after two hours questioning. His cOun-
sci said he would put him on the stand
later.
Questions by the Court.
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