New-York tribune., 1909-07-29

young girl. 1t didn't sound like that OF
Tenderlon character. and he asked the doorman
10 what could be done to have her released
From the Tenderloin station Mr. Jerome shift
ed the subject Of his inquiry TO Harvard. or. at
least TO Thaw's sudden departure from that in
sttution. Thaw declared he had been invited 70
leave the university with others who were found
making practical experiments in an American
subject outside the regular curriculum Thaw
at first said the subject poker, but Mr..
Jerome suggested that Thaw and his companions
were investigating degenerate practices
CONTRADICTs MRS MERRILL
Tnaw denied that ne ever had rooms at the
apartment of Susan Merrill He had met her. he
said in a house in West 46th street: He never
used before the name OF Reid he declared. ex-
Cept on three or four occasions when he had
teephoned. He had heard. Thaw said that she
had been subppnaed to tell lies about him
Mr.. Jerome wanted to know II he had talked
with his wife about it. but Mr.. Morschauser
objected and Thaw said he would abide by any
objections his counsel might see At TO offer.
Then there were inquiries by Jerome about
various members of the Thaw family. officers
Of the Chicrens Society and others One of
these was a woman with a French name who
had a chalet at Aix-les- -Bains Thaw laughed
when he heard the name. and asked II she
weren't the woman who had been mentioned in
a newspaper article. Thaw happened 10 he
passing the chalet day. he said and knocked
over flower pot When Hamilton's name was
mentioned Thaw smiled and caused a laugh by
asking Mr.. Jerome, What did Hamilton say
about her?"
A recess was ordered then. and Thaw de-
scended to receive the congratulations Of his
counsel his family and his friends on his good
showing.
Mr.. Jerome's first question at the opening OF
the afternoon session was:
Are you of the opinion that you are perfectly
sound now?"
Thaw's prompt answer
That is based on other peoples opinions"
you have no other opinion of your owne' the
inquisitor persisted.
But Thaw calmly answered:
Il never thought about H."
ABOUT THE SECRET UNVEILED"
Mr. Jerome then took up copy of The Sc
cret Unveiled" the pamphlet which Thaw's
mother had printed and distributed last week
Thaw declared he had had no part in its prepa-
ration although he had seen the manuscript be-
fore the pamphlet went TO press To Mr.. Jerome
he said he had obtained from John HeaIy and
Harry Marks inmates of Matteawan. letters
received by them from Mr.. Jerome by saying
he would like to have them. AS TO the state
menJ in the preface of the pamphlet that there
was a combination of rich men of professional
standing who wanted to send Thaw to an asy-
lum. Thaw said Mr.. Morschauser had approved
of it's publication.
Q..aDid YOU believe there such a combina-
Q.-Do you believe 1t? Al heard them saw
something about It. I thought there might be
in II.
Mr.. Jerome asked: Why did you think so?''
An audible laugh went around the room when
Thaw. with grin. said he thought Mr. Jerome
had referred to some such combination in his
summing up at the second TRIAL
Then Mr.. Jerome asked for the volume of the
testimony and read passage on which he said
he had based his belief that there might be some
truth in the rumOr.
Did you believe that" he asked. prior to nv
saying it?"
NO don't say that 1 believed it even after
you said It,"
Mr.. Jerome himself grinned at this saIIv
Thaw denied that ne had seen the proofs Of
the pamphlet He might have demonstrated
against its publication at first. but as Mr. Nor
schauser approved of it he let the question drop
One of the "cowardy combination Of blackmafI-
ers' referred to was Abraham HummeI Tha,v
said.
As to Ethel Thomas the girl who brought suit
against him for beating her with whip Thav
denied that he knew her we'll He
met her first in a house in West 47th street
She went to his rooms twice and remained not
more than half hour.
Mr.. Jerome wanted Thaw to explain whv his
counsel had gone to all the trouble and expense
of getting the whip with which he was said TO
have beaten young girls