The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1909-01-26
ENGIMEER PALMER
SIDESTEPS QUESTIONS
Clash Between Councilman Ken
Rsdy and City Employee h
Which "CuSs" Words are USED

Consulting Engineer Palmer, Of Kan
sas City who drew the plans ant
specifications for the filtration plan
which refused to stand Tie first day.
test, was on the carpet last aight
the city council meeting TO explain tht
cause Of iho plants failure and &
suggest remedy. ie gave Che caun
cll no satisfaction ana wuula no.
answer the direct question es Il
whether the plans and specification
had hoeu carried oul By the eentrac
tor. etc
lie stated et the ouiso, that he wp.
Unable 10 say nt this Time what cruset
he cracks IN the settling basin ent
hal IL was 0ne 90 those auexplainahl
hlngs which puzzle even The greatpn
lf englenors. lie stated that he ho,
zone over The ground very thorough
and cuu,d not say whore The dlffltuli
las Tie yontured 20 say, however lhh
aulcksand below .he plant had prol
ably made an uneven settlement. eau
ng thu walls 10 slope which with lh
li000.00o i'orads pressure o. the Nass
IN the tauka had CAUSED The walls
crack and corners "a breaA opaa p
stated that tho aHleksand WIS uni
from four i0 five feet under alle HHnl
Whereas Water Commissioner snenet
and others testified that there VI
imuly.alX feet If clay hetwpeu thc
bottom ul the plant aud lhe eulcksanl
Engineer Palmer thought thai On
anleksand was nefaana 10 blame l0
t3o mischief done
Engineer Palmer was nakaa man
questions by the eonncllmon IS DO
best 60 repair lhe plant and II Il euul
le done, but DE wcrld answer only
indirectly stating thai he wantrd liu
10 formulate written report and lht
be would suggest In lhls report tlf
meih0d necessary lo repair The efae
ad haBlu 3n naAan oi C0unelima
p nglas Engineer Palmer was roqHea
ga 10 include iii hls written ren0r
which VIII he received acre some llu
IeKl week d statement ag iO llahillt
Con raclor Cooper ln the lnilure d
ihe plant 10 work. sir. Palmer fegus
ed &c answer this question IA epNl
session, stating that there had bee
ame slight devlatlons, be though
from The plans but that as d whole It'd
work was carried ont hy gnhtfaeta
Cooper oonsclentlauslg and "a his ipas
mehi It was en- excellent Job 81 eui
crete work However, ne would
advise he council "a me meshad ~
releasing Cooper Of liability
City Attorney ls skeptlcal.
City Attorney Fred ~ Green 8h
spent several years ln engineering bt
fore entering the law prnellee. wa
nresoni al The meeting and stated thu
Palmer WAS not a practical engineer
Ia his Judgment and that his explain.
alton was Z poaf one ID fact ht
thought SO little Of the explanation Of
iered BY Engineer pelnef that he hal
deputy sheriff tag Palmer rs h iof
The council room and serve summunt
papura On him IN a suit filed IN tho
district court IN tho name Of Che els
against Palmer for $4,000, alieglns
ihat the filtration plant particularly
lhe settling basin. had been built D.
al respects ace riding 70 the pleaa end
specifications drawn Aud delivered hS
Palmer and that the plnGs end sbeell.
cations for the settling basia were DE-
fectlTe 10 such An oxlcnt IN their eoD
ceptl0n. construction and design lhnI
the weight of the water cracked lhf
wallis 0i the basin, causing q damakt
of ID least $4,000 piiy Attorney
Green filed tie auii late Yesterday al
iernoon without consulting the elts
e unull. so convinced was be that ihf
plans werc impractical end defoc
iive M palner wks not required q
gIxp bond
Bridge Tfaim Presented
The claln Of tho Illinois sleel
Bridge company ngainsl the cit,
amounting % 1858 for tho cousifuc
lion Of Fiflh street bridge was brought
~ agaln and brought forth much afeu
maal. AZ ne report tf me engineer
81 lhe work haH been chrrled away b
Councilman OseFlon. who was absent
from the meeting. re claim kaa not
ef6eFed paid b The coanci but A..
a6kno fledgod thai The city had il Ia
psY Councilman Kennedy obiersea "a
the paying Of the claim nnlil The cen
dilioa 81 the bridge could be- lnYostl
lfd 80 declared Il was unsafe and
dangerous. was ouf of lne SIX Inches
ard the floor ef bfldse sanken q
places re veusarei tllnt Il would
iail within slxig arya Councilman
D0ag as made q mbiiou tAai he city