The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1909-06-24

water, The syrup might sometimes
nave become sour in hot weather II
thc same had been improperly manu-
1actured. The witness had exper
fenced but little difficulty In that way
He was then excused.
lily OleSon. formerly an inmate OF
the school, for seven months, but now
connected with Witness Ivanson al
salt Lake, was called TO the stand
and testified regarding his term at
the school Hc stated that he had
been well treated by the officers OF the
} scnool, and was regarded as a
/ trusty.' At one time he struck a
boy for calling him names and had,
In turn, been struck on the face by
one of the officers. Witness could not
say If the guards fist was used as
the latters fingers had been amputat.
! ed at some time.
AT the conclusion Of Oleson's testi-
mony, Attorney Gideon's question re-
garding the cause OF Oleson being
sent to the school provoked sharp
objection from Chairman Joseph and
resulted shortly afterward In the trou.
BILE between Chas Hollingsworth and
Judge Agee.
Yesterday Afternoons Proceedings.
By cross-eXamination. Wednes-
day, Attorney Johnson, for the
defense, brought out the state
ment by Captain Kneass tnat
only once, during his employment at
the school, had he known of condemn
ed supplies being paid for and subse-
ouently destroyed. This was In the
matter of S1.50 worth of currants
which were not wormy but seemed to
have "sugared" and become spoiled.
The witness then related how he had
gone to Omaha for the boy, Ferris.
who had escaped Upon approaching
Granger. witness had placed handouts
on the boys feet and upon awaken
ing from brief doze, Ferris was miss
Ing Witness allowed the train to
pull out of Granger and shortly after
ward found Ferris among some adjoin-
Ing box-cars, he having climbed over
several cars with the handouts still
upon his ankles,
After the boy was brought back to
the school, the Oregon boot" was
placed on him and he was asked to
tell the officers when the desire to es-
cape came over him. Ferris afterward
notified Supt. Thomas Of his intentions
to escape at the first opportunity and
he was sent back to Salt Lake where
he was retired for burglary, former
ly committed, and sent to the peniten-
tiary
Captain Kneass was asked his opln-
ion of the severity of the punishment
given the seven boys who were whip
ped and he stated that he thought they
deserved the heaviest penalty allow
able at the school.
When pressed still further regard
ing his Ideas Of the punishment Of
certain boys. the witness refused 10
state his opinion, saying that he was
testifying under protest anyway and
that he did not consider his own ideas
on the matter In hand were OF vital In
terest TO the investigating committee.
President Joseph asked that the
fact so upon record that Captain
Kneass had refused to answer one of
the questions asked him, and then In
quired Of the witness if he had pre-
viously informed the committee that
he did not wish to testify. Captain
Kneass stated that he had
The witness was then questioned
regarding the management OF the In
external" improvements which hao
been accomplished. When asked II
the internal" Improvements had kept
pace with those on the outside, the
witness stated that they had not. ow-
ing to the fact that the entire energies
of the employed force had been occu-
pied with the daily routine, making it
impossible to carefully search out the
underlying traits Of each Individual In
an effort to improve him mentally.
physically and morally.
Captain Kneass was at length ex-
cused TO allow the testimony of G. H.
Chandler. former watchman of tho
institution, to be taken. Mr.. Chandler
is better known to some as the truth
ful witness" Superintendent Thomas
apparently placing the utmost conh-
dence in the gentleman's yeracity and
readily asserting to him being called
as witness.
Chandler stated that he had been
employed as night and day watchman
at the school In 1907 and 1908. He
told OF various punishments inflicted
on the inmates, and said he had
known of boys being locked In the cell
for chewing tobacco. Witness stated
that, despite the rules against the use
OF tobacco by employees Of the school,
he knew Of four or five who did use It,,
and some Of them openly before the
inmates. He said the blacksmith
chewed tobacco before the boys in tho
shop, and mentioned one or two others
who did likewise in their respective
departments
Tho yutfpocc doaoribod fho ranpi c h.
ment inflicted by whipping and stated
that the offenders sometimes received
from 10 to rs blows with the strap.
Witness told of guards being fined $40
whenever one Of them allowed a boy
to escape, which brought forth the
question If the same rule applied to
Superintendent Thomas himself upon
the occasion of a boy escaping from
him at one time One boy was placed
in the cell for chewing tobacco, but
was afterward released. The boy had
been "ailing" for some time, and after
ward took sick with typhoid fever asH
died, Witness described the attempt
to escape planned by several boys IN
1907. at which time boy by the
name of Wells "snltched' on the rest
to Chandler. The superintendent was
informed of the plan to escape by one
of the play room windows. the screen
of which had been removed. and al
lowed the plot TO materialize the off,
GERS being on hand TO prevent their
actually getting away. The boys were
easily caught in the act and were re-
moved TO the cell for two weeks on
bread and water Wells was released
from the cell after the first night, but
was punished by having his hair
clipped.