New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-01


deceived by tariff experts and near experts as 10
this conference report being a downward revision
in any reasonable OF the term can, think,
be Mechanically demonstrated
Certainly, Mr.. Chairman Payne's statement Is
one of the most deceptive documents ever sub
mitted TO the gaze of men, said Mr.. Clark i GO
net charge him with intentional deception. but he
too, has been deceived by seight OF hand perform
ers in arithmetic. Clearly the statement is in
tended to convey the impression that the decreases
in the report when compared with the increases
s4s7al22l24 ss52 5lz525. It requires most
careful reading Of the first page of the statement
TO conclude .lat IL is not intended to convey the
impression that the annual tariff taxes are reduced
to the extent pf As7Si22,iA as against an increase
OF only S525 2s25. That was so preposterous that
by careful examination 7 arrived at what meaning
the statement is intended TO convey. and that is
because there is sort OF decrease--no one can
tell from the statement how much or how little
articles estimated az s4,s7si22i24 consumed in
this country, and inerease-no one can tell how
much or how little-on articles consumed of the
value OF only SS52,5l2,52a The decreases and in
creases are in that proportion This is a most
fallaeieus way OF reasoning for the actual in
creases dozen articles may amount in the
aggregate 70 mere than the decreases on thou
sand"
Mr.. Clark submitted table containing com
parison between the Dingley revenue for 1907 and
the revenue that would have been derived that
year under the duties OF the conference bill Tn
der the Dingley duties he declared, the revenue
would have been $50 1882, and under the duties
provided by the conferrees il would have been
1884 IS 344 excess in the conference bill over the
Dingley law of S5,6.90o2. The conferrees, he said
had increased the chemical schedule 56S per cent
agricultural, s6S per cent spirits, 2ssS per cent
cotton. 1850 per cent. silk, 154S per cent; pulp
paper, etc, 1902 per cent. II had decreased, he
said the earthenware schedule oS2 per cent;
metals. 665 per cent; wood, etc, 1888 per cent
sugar. .c04 per cent; fax, 024 per cent; WOOL IS
per cent, and sunories, Ia per cent.
Such revision downward had been made, said
Mr.. Underwood. of Alabama, minority member
of the Ways and Means Committee, was IN the
interests OF the great corporations. That was con-
spicuously So he explained, in the placing Of iron
and hides the free list.
y have just been looking over the report" !nter
posed M Hill. of Connecticut. "and find most of
the reductions of the steel schedule have brought
the duties below the rates Of the Wilson bL'
Since the Wilson bill was passed" replied MI
Underwood, there has been revolution in the
production Of iron and steel What was 2 low late
when the Wilson bill was passed is high rate
to-day" - =
Mr.. MANN ON PAPER DUTIES
Weed pulp and print paper formed the subject
OF long speech by Mr.. Mann, of Illinois His
announcement that because of the rates fixed by
the eonferrees on those products he would vote
against the conference report moved the Demo
Gratis loud applause
r declared
with the situation where the Canadian government
has reached the decision that possibly if not PROB
ably, the Dominion would be justified Ia apSoIute4y
forbidding the expectation of raw material Chuef
the maximum and minimum clause. he said the
charge OF 81 g. a ton on wood pulp would De IN
creased TO sss a ton. That maximum, ne ex-
claimed lis as sure TO go into effect between Can
ada and this country that God made little
apples unless Canada removes her restrictions On
the expectation of the pulp
Mr. Mann said that all Canada needed to DO was
TO stand pat" end say: You have got TO have
our naper and pulp in some form You will take i
in the form Of paper from US" Canada ne ADDED
is as wise and keen the best leaders OF the Ae-
publican party. They well know, ne asserted
that they hold the whip hand; that they nave
wood pulp and that, without obtaining concessions
from this country which are fair TO us. they will
maintain for Canada the right 20 manufacture
within her own borders her own wood pulp ana
then if We wanted il, we would pay the price
which she puts upon it
Should Canada prohibit the expectation OF WOOD
pup hfr Mann argued, Maine and New Hamp-
shire would raise the price of pulp wood ana PRINT
paper would go up He declared that instead OF
revision of the tariff reducing the price OF print
paper the threat of cents a pound, OF 80 ton.
would soon be history.
Mr.. Mann vehemently denounced the Senate for
it's action in conference. ct am tired" he said,
amid applause from both sides, 'of seeing this
body constantly yield 10 the insistent demands or a
few Senators. Let them vote as they please. II
is our duty to stand by what we believe TO be right
for the country"
Mr. MaIby of New York, said that the Illinois
member was placing his personal judgment against
that of every man who had tried 10 build up the
paper industry in the United States Although
paper making was fourth among the industries Of
the United States he said, the returns were miser-
able He predicted that if the bill passes there
would BE- no more American money put into paper
manufacturing in the United States.
Mr. Clayton. of Alabama, said a parallel case
vas lutte and iute butts, which were free, and out
Of which cotton bagging was made. and yet a
tariff was levied on cotton bagging for the benefit
of the manufacturer.
MARVELLOUS NEWSPAPER DIVIDENDS"
Continuing. Mr. Malby declared that the news
papers were reaping marvellous dividends from
their investments. No one inquiries how wealthy
they are" he said and one inquiries how little
poor papermaker is making"
Mr.. Randen, Of Texas. declared that none of the
rates of the iron and steel schedule justified
from the point of view Of protection, and that the
wool schedule was fraud.
Answering the statement of Mr.. Longworth, that
the tariff bill personal victory for Mr.. Payne
and President Taft Mr.. Kinkead OF New Jersey.
characterized il also victory the consuna-
ing masses gained fer the dishonest manufacturers
Of the nation
Mr. Clayton denied that the country would ACCEPT
the tariff bill as satisfactory piece OF legislation.
as Mr. Payne predicted II would, he said, prove
be false return to the Republican promises Of
downward revision.
Regarding the turning OF wheels and the opening
Of factories Mr.. Clayton said that Mr. Mann, a
Republican, had shown that the paper mills Of
the United States would go cut OF business if the
bill passed
The debate OF ten hours and half was closed
by Mr.. Mccall. OF Massachusetts,. Of the con
ferrees, with an earnest plea 10 his Republican
colleagues 10 support the bill
When the hour OF arrived nearly every mem