New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-10-15
SPIRITS WARN MIR WI
PREDICT VAR IN CHINA.
alleged Messages from Minister'S
Mother and President Mckinley.

Washington. Oct 14.-Wu Ting-fang who is about
TO retire from the post Minister of China t" the
United States. pursued still further last night MS
personal Investigations into spiritism as demon
strated By Washington sprltualists His hrSt eN-
perience was last Sunday night at pubic meet
ing. where anonymous Chinese spirits were de-
scrbed 10 him by trance medium as towering
near WI exhibited great interest
Last night he went again, this time to smaller
seance at private house. He refused to discuss
his experiences or impressions. and even showed
sOlictude lest his presence at the seance should he
the subject of newspaper mention. The woman
medium who officiated-a different one this uhe-
brought to him messages purporting to come from
President Mckinley who was a close friend OF MI
WI. ana also from the minister's mother Inc
latter the more startling. because apparently
delivered in the Chinese language.
These messages are alleged by the spiritualists
TO be brought the medium in trance by the spirit
of American Indian girl sixteen years old. under
whose Control she speaks broken English; yet
the conversation between WI and the medluh'
while ostensibly under this control" was some
what extensive. lasting fully five minutes ana
seemed to be in the Chinese language, questions
and answers, uninteIgible to the auditors passing
back and forth with considerable freedom. Mr..
WI seemed perfectly to understand the communi-
cation which purported 10 come from the spirit OF
his mother It was asserted that the medium ana
her Indian control" are ignorant Of the Chinese
language
The spiritualisrs assured Mr. WI before the
seance that no newspaper men was present. but
they were mistaken. In addition to that the score
of persons who attended the meeting talked freely
to-day concerning the remarkable interchange
which took place
TERRIBLE TROUBLE" FOR CHINA.
Before the conversation between Mr. WI and the
medium purporting to convey messages from Presi-
dent Mckinley, the woman in her trance told MT
WI that her control fOresaw terrible trouble for
the Chinese Empire. in which the diplomat would
occupy place of great Importance and influence,
and 1t in connection with this prediction that
she brought what said to be communication
from Mr.. Mckinley expressing his earnest desire
for peace.
Accompanied by WI Chang. attache. who was
with him the former visit, DR.. WI. in his
purple costume hand early. At the private
meetings of the Temple League OF Spiritualists'
various mediums attend and render their services
gratuitously the audience being comprised Of any
who wish to be present, and a collection is taken
up for the purpose OF building fund for temple.
At first the spirit of Chinaman. who gave his
name, came to Mr.. WI. The control said the
spirit had left the earthly life some twenty years
ago. but it knew Mr. WI and would like to talk TO
him. Minnie" the Indian Control" said through
the medium that this spirit a great China
man, like the big chief but had been common
Chinaman He no like you, big chief said the
Indian girl TO Mr.. WI. He used to be a washee
washee, washee: you great ChInaman who talkee,
talkee talkee; heap much talkee ALA time"
Suddenly the medium made a most profound
sflaam before Mr. WI and informed him that his
ltother was there and wished to give him mes
sAse.
ASK her TO speak to me-" said Mr. WI
At that request the medium spoke, as If with
great difficulty. sentence in the Chinese language
or as near TO IT as it might be possible for Ind
ian girl. able to speak only the broken Eng
sh to repeat to American that difficult foreign
tongue This in turn, passing from the lips Of an
other woman. somewhat imperfect but Mr. WI
apparently understood portions of the message and
answered in Chinese
The first sentence was in the nature of a sauta-
ton, and in reply Mr.. WI asked questions of the
spirit" in Chinese. receiving answer which
seemed undoubtedly TO be in Chinese, and the con-
versation continued fully five minutes. Through
the medium the Indian control" occasionally said
that Mr.. WI did not fully understand what the
medium trying say to him. owing to the
third hand manner, TO speak. in which the Chi
reaching him.
While conveying the message purporting to come
from Mr.. Wus mother the medium stood close to
the diplomat times holding his hand and patting
him the shoulder. Finally she knelt in front
of him. continuing to talk in that position couple
Of minutes
At the close of this conversation the Indian girl
told what she foresaw in the future in connection
with the Chinese Minister. First she saw much
fighting in the country from which he came His
native land was preparing. she said, for great
struggle. It building great ships of war. Mr..
WI would be vitality interested in this terrible con-
WHAT "MuNLEY' SAID.
Soon afterward the medium said there came to
a spirit. friend of the Minister'S who was
of his country. was an American.
This spirit gave to the medium the name of will
iam," and finally after hesitation she gave
the last name Mckinley" The control re-
marked that the spirit had left this earth eight
years ago. Assuming dgnlfed attitude the
medium bowed respectfully to Mr.. WI. and in a
deep clear masculine voice said;
How you. my friend? I am William Nc
Kinley. former President of the United States.
have Just heard what the little Indian girl pre-
dicted to you about great war for China. l sin
cerely hope that such will ever take place
I am for peace and know you also are for peace
you nOt?'
Yes" said the Chinese Minister, Il am for
peace always
this great war. my brother, and l. too. will =
tinue TO work for peace" said the medium This
ended the communication.
Mr.. WI apparently too greatly astonished
what he heard 10 assume his characteristic role
Of rapid fire questioner for he failed to interro-
gate the spirit of the former President. He showed
every evidence of being profoundly impressed.
From his attache he obtained of his cards,
which he held in his hand for some minutes while
the medium went 10 other persons in the room
and gave spirit messages. Then the minister
procured a piece of paper and proceeded to write
note. apparently something he wished be
given TO the medium. Its purpose was not d
vuged Before the medium had out of her
trance Mr.. WI and WI Chang departed.
MUST SAY WHERE SHE WAS coURTED
Justice Blanchard, in the Supreme Court, Iii
rected Miss Anna Bertha Grunspan. who is suing
INlliam English Walling the Socialist author for
breach OF promise OF marriage. TO supply him with
bill Of particulars. stating in what country he
made his promise to marry her. so that a proper