The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1909-04-16
GRAF CHARGES SEEM TO FAIL

saw anyone else than kaleiopu doing
this work. / never heard anyone saw
nor do L know if Kaleiopu was paid for
that work or not.
During last session, after the Legis-
lafure, 1t was currently reported that
members were translating bills, then
passing It out to outsiders. who would
get paid for the work and divide with
the members. 1 told Castro this ses-
sion to keep his eyes peeled for mem
bers doing the same thing this session.
Castro said he would.
''Finally he came to me and said:
What you told me is right | made
him tell me that he was suspicious. and
inquired, and suspected member ac-
knowiedged that he had translated
bills. -
Long said he did not want to mention
names 1t was not pleasant thing,
and ne wanted Castro, who had told
him, to furnish the names.
is this the ease where Sheldon
made the translationa'' Coney asked.
would rather that Castro would
answer
Finally Long stated that it was Shell
don he meant.
Castro told me,'' Long continued,
that the pay for translating the bill
was to go to Sheldon; that Sheldon
had told him So.
Did you have the idea that Shell
don made that translation for fun, for
love of his country, or for the money
that was in it?' asked Single.
81 felt that it was wrong,'' said
Long.
But did you have the impression
that Sheldon got the pay fer, that
work?' pressed Shingle.
doing the translating were benefting
in the receipts, answered Long. "The
| way Castro told me made me feel that
these things were not being done for
their health. | thought it very pecu-
liar that members should be working
for those in the pay of the House to
do the work, -
| Single asked for a full, frank and
| free statement of what he knew about
the whole matter
Long said he had called the Speak
| er's attention to the Sheldon matter,
| after his suspicious had been aroused by
| hearing stories in circulation and not
what Kaleiopu was doing.
| Shlngle drew his attention to the di-
rect statements in the Bulletin and the
direct charges made, and the further
follow-up In that paper in which Long
backed up every statement.
did mot say l would back up
every statement said Long, "but l
did say | intended to call for an inves-
tigation. | did not state positively
that some members were drawing money
under assumed names. | did say some
members were drawing money through
a third party
Long said he did not know who had
first told Irwin of the matter, nor did
he remember talking along that line
to Lloyd or anyone else. He remem-
bered saying he did not want the thing
to go any farther, when the graft talk
about Lloyd started He didn t like
the look of the whole thing He had
told the Speaker not to talk about graft
and asked him to cut the whole thing
out.
Coney asked what bribery he meant
IN some of his statements in the House
or at the cabinet meeting. He referred
to the accusation of Kaleiopu against
Lloyd, when he accused Lloyd of trying
to bribe him. 1t had no connection
with the Liquor Bill al all.
81 understand that Lloyd went to
Kaleiopu and asked for support for the
Alfonso resolution, offering a Panama
ha5 or something like that for his
vote,'' he said.
is that the only bribery you have
heard of in regard to this House?'
asked Shingle.
eyes, that is the only case'
Long said he recalled saying some
thing to the effect that some bills in
troduced chad to be translated any
how as an explanation for their in
PRODUCTION.
"Was that the Furtado bill, repeal
ing a dead lawa' asked Single
THAT was the only such bill this SEES
sion'
cit was around about that time, -
said Long, s'but | do not think there
was any graft about that Ny remark
was more of a joke.
@'Can you at this time lay your finger
on any one piece of graft to your own
certain knowledge in this Legislature,
or anything that has suspicion Of
graft in itf' asked Single.
81 do not understand answered
Long.
"Wen, you know what graft is. If
you point any out to us, we will go
after it. Is there anything which you
suspect or have a bunch or know''
'Do you mean where someone has
got money?''
eyes
"No, do not know definitely where
anyone has got a dollar. There is the
Sheldon ease, and the Kaleiopu case, of
course"
''The bribery you refer to was that
of Kaleiopu and Lloyd7'
eyes. I wanted that investigated.
do not say anything of graft, but
regarded them as suspicious cireum-
stances. Where people were employed
for one specific purpose and then draw
ing pay for other purposes, as in the
Journal Committee, for instance. Max
ing native translations, for instance,
and drawing salary from the United
States for another purpose.
''You deny then that you stated that
the Bulletin story was true in all re-
speets. and that you intended to de-
mand an investigation,
81 did say it was correct when it
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