Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1909-06-23
Witness in Industrial School In.
vestigation Tells Of clar-
ence Trip Case.
SOON GOT FIFTY LAsHEs MORE
Shocking Tales of Brutality Dealt Out
TO Unfortunate Inmatcs-igcc
Objects to Prompting.
tsnccial 10 the News.

OGDEN. Juno 23.--At the Thomas in
llncass, assistant superintendent, was.
the principal witness. His testimony
washof the time that seven boys were
severely punished With a strap and
While they We're being whipped the
school band was kept playing so the
| neighbors would not hear their screams.
This was in the fallof 1907. The boys
Were given % blows each, according to
1.-The testimony of Kneass, ana one Of
them was carried from the room in Il
fainting condition. The witness pro-.
duced the Oregon boot" which he
states was used twice to his own knowl-
edge. The boot was Worn by Ferris
and Tenstermaker, both boys having
attempted to escape
In relation to goods purchased for
the school, the witness stated that
those OF the retail We're purchased
Wholesale from, Scrowcroft g. Co. He
said that the eggs and currnnts from
the Evans store We're very bad, but
had not been returned. Captain,
| Kneass vas asked his opinion what
was the best discipline for the BOYS
opinion that the big boys who We're
charged with greater crimes should be
kept separate from the smaller boys,
charged with lesser offenses. He also
stated that the officers should spend
more time with the boys, and find
Tout their condition and habits. He
stated that among the inmates were
some boys charged with criminal as
sault. and that they We're never sep
| arated from the smaller boys.
WHIPPED TILL HE TAINTED.
The next witness was E.5H Chandler
employed as day Waterman and stock
man, from April, 1907, to the fall of 1905. !
He told or the whipping of inmates
during the time he was in school. One.
lease he cited was that Of Clarence
"Trip, who had been returned to the
school after parole, by Supt Thomas.
| The boy had attempted to escape, and
was put in cell on bread and water
for 81 days: He also received 60 lashest
With the strap. The whipping was un-
4 der the direction of Supt Thomas. Aft
Ter the boy had begged and pleaded for
i#lnercy and was about to faint the sn-
| perintendent said he had enough for a
t4iittie willie At another time, the boy
! was away from the school for about
1.-TWO hours, and when he was returned,
Hit was stated that he had attempted to
escape, and he was given so lashes with
| the strap. The witness further testi-
jtfied of the time that four boys had
|5tried to escape, but were told on by
Ed Wells, an inmate who had planned
to escape with the others. The other
three boys We're severely strapped and
| placed in cell on a bread and water
diet for three weeks.
| TIFF BETWEEN ATTORNEYS.
AT the close of the forenoon session
! Atty. Agee objected toe. r. Hollings-
worth, secretary of the board of trus-
tees for the school, and one of Thomas
attorneys. prompting Chairman Joseph
lin the questions asked the witnesses.
| It was finally agreed, after some
lengthy argument, that Hollingswortl
should not prompt Mr.. Joseph. Mr..
Agee also told Mr.. Joseph that he was
i showing too much bias in favor oc
! Thomas, and that as this was a pub
| lie investigation they should all seek
| to have the facts brought out. i.Es
The hearing took recess until .