New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-06
MRS. THAW A WITNESS
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sign or the feellng which she entertalns
against Mr.. Jerome came with her accusation
that he was trying to subject her son to all
possible torture. Mr.. Jerome sat quietly while
Josiah Thaw strove to comfort his mother,
Justice Mills. who was plainly affected by the
spectacle Of the mother trying to win her sons
freedom, then allowed Mrs. Thaw TO tell the
story in her own way
She protested she said. to DR.. Lamb the
superintendent OF Matteawan. about the room.
and he told her he was acting under instruc-
lions from Albany. After that she made only
one request as 70 her sons treatment and that
was on one afternoon when Thaw wished to
Write long letter to his counsel. Mr. Morsch-
auser. She was not allowed to stay with
MN after D p. m. although Thaw had espe-
ciaily requested that she be allowed to stay
until the letter was finished On leaving the
place she saw four women going UP the stairs,
VINO. she was told were visitors to patients
She told or Thaw being compelled 20 go TO his
room az o'clock and of his refusal to take adj
vantage OF sitting UP another hour in the
iiuor' because there were half dozen or more
patients there afflicted with disgusting" dis
eases. one morning. she said, Thaw on passing
through the corridor. saw dead in bed.
There was not even chair in her sons ROOM
she said. though in the next to IL there were
rug a rocking chair and several other articles
of furniture. Her only reference TO her daugh-
ter-in-law was in connection with the concert
which. 1t is said. was framed up" by Dr. Austin
Flint and DR.. Baker to get Thaw to make "a
show Of himself while newspaper reporters were
present Notification OF this affair was brought
to my son for some reason or other by Mrs.
Evelyn" she remarked. without any feeling
ASSISTED FROM THE STAND.
Her task over. Mrs. Thaw was assisted from
hy Tbayx -Io tool h. Aa1f ia
the jury box. where her sobs could be heard all
over the room. The former Countess Of Var
mouth rushed 10 her mothers side. but 1t was
several minutes before Mrs. Thaw had regained
her composure sufficiently TO resume her seat
behind Mr.. Morschauser
Despite the experience ne had passed through
of seeing his mother suffering on the stand,
Thaw. who called Immediately afterward
by Mr.. Jerome. made valiant effort to show
that he justified in holding his beliefs about
Stanford White and the latter's degrading in
fluence on innocent young girls. The much
talked about mushroom letter. Of the architect
TO May" former chorus girl friend Of Evelyn
Nesbit and Thaw. had been admitted into the
record. over Mr.. Jeromes violent protest at the
morning session. and il was left for the District
Attorney 70 try 20 show that Thaw was laboring
under delusion when he entertained such be-
liefs. First. however re undertook to prove
that Thaw had dictated 10 his counsel, despite
the testimony OF John 3. Gleason on Wednesday.
and over Mr.. Morschauser's vigorous protest he
succeeded in having opened and identified by
Thaw the envelope containing letter 70 Thaw's
cousin. ]. Dennison Lyon. OF Pittsburg, and one
to his brother. Josiah Thaw. tending 20 show
that he going to take charge OF his own
case. Both were dated July Q. 1906. Lyon was
ordered 10 place all moneys and funds Of Thaw's
in the Fourth National Bank OF New York. and
Josiah Thaw commanded 10 pay out nothing
| further in connection with Thaws case.
AFFIDAVIT OF ADA C. DICKERT
An affidavit that had been submitted 10 Thaw
] by woman called Ada O. Dickert was then
/ Identified by him. She used 20 be chorus girl
and had informed Thaw soon after his arrest for
| killing White that the architect. knowing her TO
/ be a good girl. had lured her a barn in 55th
street and tried 10 make her drink champagne.
/ and on her refusal had torn her clothes that
| she had TO go home in a cab Thaw declared he
/ believed the story Of the woman TO be true. as
| he had had the chief Of police Of the town where
/ the woman lives investigate the facts. He had
heard about other places kept by White and his
companions for the prosecution OF their prac-
| tees
District Attorney Jerome tried TO show that
Thaw couldn't have had reasonable grounds for
| his opinions of White by showing him various
| letters Of May Mackenzie 10 White. in which
the architect was addressed in endearing terms
| Thaw endeavored to explain by saying the girl
was really grateful for the kindness OF White
! and feared 90 antagonize him. lest he should pre-
vent her getting place the stage. as in the
| case Of another girl who had rcpulsed his ad-
| vances.
| This girl brought sui; against White Thaw
| said. and received $1,000 in ABE" Hummers
/ house But White according to Thaw kept her
| from getting work until Thaw met her on a
steamer in 1904 She :old her story 20 Thaw
who put Roger O'Mara IN the case.
| And" Thaw declared. within two years the
| girl had one OF the best positions on the Amer
| lean stage"
| TELLS OF WHITES LIARS"
Several places kept by White for Turing young
| girls Thaw said ne had heard Of among them
one known as The Blind" in Maryland where
| the witness declared White and several OF his
| friends had taken a number Of innocent young
| girls from Baltimore end accomplished their
ruin.
The intention Of Thaw's counsel 20 prove that
Thaw had no delusion in regard To White and
/ his evil practices made evident with the
| calling yesterday morning of David y Carvalho
| the handwriting expert Carvalho. who sat near
| Thaw all during his first trial. declared he had
| examined sixty eight letters of White and found
! them genuine The letters were written 10 one
| Sue Parker who offered them 10 Thaw for a
| consideration of $4,000. She accepted $500 and
| they came into the possession OF Thew. who.
Carvalho said. knew of the girls story. Car
vaIho identified mass OF typewriter pages. but
Thaw himself couldn't swear they were the orig
inals which, at last reports. had been in the late
A. Russell Peabody's custody Pending their
/ yr,ieC Of he let