The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1909-06-26

clothes once a week. Mrs. Thomas told
OF the improvements made in the build
ings and grounds and said religion was
not taught; just the Bible The merit
boys to the last circus at her own ex-
pense. She thought a boy could live
longer than eight OF ten days on bread
brown. Mrs Thomas said, was a good
COOK, but h1gh tempered and flung things
about He had been cook for eleven years
al different times. He had charge of the
Ice box, and il it were unclean, il was his
fault.
Thomas Meyers, the head guard, said
good carpenter would do in four OF five
DAYS what IT took Scott eight OF ten days
TO 10 Oh Thomas house. Scott, he said,
was "a ''putterCr."
At the night session Harry S. Joseph
invited any member OF the citizens com
mlItee 10 make statement. Mrs. Kate
1llldrd took advantage of the invitation.
IN addition to her criticism of Miss Van
Colt, Mrs. billiard said she was opposed
70 corporal punishment and all other
forms OF brutality in d school like that
She was asked by Attorney Harris If shs
did not know that many of the inmates
were hardened criminals. Size objected
10 the term, and said no boy should be
considered a hardened criminal. She said
10 boy should be subjected TO solitary con-
Theme ut. She objected to visiting the
school on show day, when all were on
urcss parade. Asked if she had any sug
-N~tioit 10 MAKE she Sdl0s eS. u II Il
man who is educated for this kind of work
tor the head of your schOOl-a broad man
with a good heart. The officers ana
teachers should be ladies and gentle
men
She was asked by Joseph if she had any
other opinion to give. IN give my Opln-
ion of the board of trustees. she TetOrted,
but the presiding officer backed out. She
said she did not regret her part IN the in
vestigatOn. and considered she was per
forming an important duty for the club
women and tire citizens Of the state.
Dr. O. A Dickson, one of the school
physicians. said he would substitute milk
for coffee on the bill of fare, and bread
for hot rolls. He would also cut out part
Of the meat He said the food was good
and properly cooked. The physical condi
zion Of the boys and girls was good. but
the - hOol should have a sewer.
Thomas In Own Behalf.
The testimony of Superintendent H. II.
Thomas was brief and he was not cross
examined. He told of visiting a number
of reform schools in the east last summer
for the purpose Of getting ideas as to the
care Of delinquents, and on a building Tor
the girls. He said ne found in every
school he visited discipline Ike his, but
more severe. Since the investigation be
gan. he sent messages to these institu-
tons asking about punishment He got
reIlies from several, which were placed
in evidence. In the matter OF the pun
ishment administered to seven boys after
the canyon outing last summer, he said
he directed il, that the boys deserved it,
and that he would not know what else 10
do in similar case now. He put il up
to the members of the board. and they
authorized whipping He and Joseph laid
it before Governor Cutler and he said
strapping was no punishment at all; they
were fit for the penitentiary. He said he
took no pleasure in Furnishing, and re-
sorted to it only after persuasion, kind
ness and reason failed. Referring to the
boy Bacon and his story about having a
piece cut out of his back, he said he had
heard nothing about it until the investi-
CATION. He said this was not the first
case of this kind Harry Jackson told
his mother that he had a piece one and a
half inches torn out of his arm by whip
ping. She went with the Catholic priest
10 Joseph and complained. On investiga-
ton the boy said he told the story to Gre
ate sympathy. He had never been whipped
at all. but injured his arm on a pipe in
the play room.
In the matter of the work done on his
house. he said he got permission from the
board to have the men do the work if he
paid for it. Scott worked nine days and
he paid him $50. Meyers worked three or
four days and he paid him SO. and these
amounts were deducted from the payroll
In regard to the improper questions said
to have been asked the girls, Mr.. Thomas
denied the charge absolutely. He said he
never asked the questions or any similar
questions.