Evening journal., 1909-07-28
THAW FIGHTS
FOR FREEDOM
Continued From First Page.

Because at the end of the second
trial was acquitted, but the presid-
Ing judge issued the commitment"
well. why were you acquitted?"
Because they found me not guilty"
answered Thaw, rather sharply.
why, you killed Stanford White,
did you not? Shot him to death on
Madison Square Garden?' asked
Jerome.
Thaw crossed his legs, swung his
huge left hand to and fro a couple of
times; then leisurely answered:
i was acquitted, 1 think because
counsel for both sides told that I was
suffering from delusions at the time"
You understand do you not the
noblese oblige that prevails among gen.
tlemen?"
Yes"
Would you, having committed an act
which you felt called upon as a gen
tleman to perform, consent to the sub
ornation of lying by your counsel to
escape the consequences of your act?'
by no'means," answered Thaw.
Jerome then attacked the testimony
of the men who, during the first trial,
said Thaw spoke of hearing voices OF
young girls He suddenly left that line,
however. and asked Thaw if he had
studied hypnotism before he was mar
rled.
"yes very little. Professor Ferris
called on me and gave me several les
sons. / was not much interested, how
ever"
did you study because you thought
Evelyn Nesbit was dominated by Mr.
Stamford White through hypnotic in
nuences?"
why, yes" said Thaw. smilingly
that entered into the matter"
Did you think he did exercise a hyp-
motto influence over her?"
"f'rom her remarks / thought such
thing quite possible. He certainly
exercised strong influence over her"
In talking of Anthony ComstocN
Thaw said: II have taken little inter
est in his work since my arrest"
Jerome then turned to the question
of the voices Of little girls heard by
Thaw at the police station.
Denied Hearing Voices.
Thaw denied hearing the voices at
the time Lynch, the doorman at the
Tombs. said he had heard them. Je-
rome read Lynch's testimony given at
the murder trials.
That's rubbish" remarked Thaw.
"Then why did you, dominated by
that idea of noblesse oblige allow it
to go into the records?" sneered Je-
rome.
i ''1 spoke to N1r. Littleton about Il,
but he thought that while it was mixed
up. il should go in. so long as the other
side had used the. evidence of Hum
mel"
This led into the alleged blackmall-
ing scheme OF Hummel which Thaw
denounced. This was the suit of Ethel
Thomas, in which it was charged that
Thaw had tied the girl to a bed post
and hogged her with a dog whip.
what became of that suit?" asked
Jerome.
II told them to come on with the
suit, but they never came on" was
Thaw's defiant answer
SIS it true that your wife threatened
to sue you for divorce because of this
hogging of girls and you said that
you had sufficient srounds?"
1T is not"
Are you willing TO have your wife
on the stand and waive your privilege
in this Connection" demanded eJromo,
but Thaw answered that he would
waive none of his privileges.
Jerome then produced a letter which
he said was written to Evelyn by
Thaw, but after a lengthy debate this
letter was barred as confidential
communication between husband and
wife.
ARGUMENT OVER LETTERS.
"Did you ever write your wife lewd
letters. containing lewd drawings by
yourself7" shouted Jerome. angry be-
cause the letter had been barred. Then
followed another storm OF objectiors
/ and the argument that followed be-
tween Jerome and Morschauser was
long and extremely bitter.
This argument gave Thaw a chance
to rest from the calling rapid fire OF
. questions from Jerome. He observed
the debate closely and smiled down al
his mother and sister, who smiled back
congratulations for his attitude on the
stand.
Thaw's appearance and conduct or
the stand were much in his favor. but
at this point Jerome's examination
threatened startling disclosures. Susie
Merrill. fat and middle aged, attirec
in pink linen suit set in an ante room
Throughout this examination Of Thaw
Justice MlliS lnhilA Illeu Aldl lNt
letter should not be admitted with Thav
on the stand. but that if Jerome coulc
have Il identified as Thaw's handwrit-
ing by some one othe rthan his wife
he would admit II In evidence,
Here Thaw leaned over and held Z
five minute whispered conversation with
Justice Mills after which he left thu
= stand while Peter b. Olney Of the frs
= Thaw lunacy commission which founC
Thaw sane, was called. While Olne!
e identified the records Of the insanity
commission. Thaw held a hurried con.
= ference with his attorney. As soon az
Olney was through Thaw resumed tn,
stand.
; Jerome then took up Thaw's resdenc
at Matteawan.
do you think you have always beer
: sane?" he asked.
mot always, legally but I have beel
> sane medically, always"
Z Jerome then tried TO pave the way for ,
private examination by asking Thaw il h,
did not think one was necessary in orde
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