Norwich bulletin., 1909-07-16
ThaW's
 Lips UnseaIed
STRONG POINT SCORED BY THE. STATE IN ITS FIGHT.
SHE FEARS HER HUSBAND
Damaging Testimony Against Harry He Threatened to Kill Her if He Was Ever Released from Mstteawan

White Plains N. Y, July 15.-Harry k. Thaw's pretty little wife, formerly tine chorus girl Evelyn Nesbit, went on the stand here today and gave damag- ing testimony against him. It was the strongest point. scored so far by the state in its fight to keep Thaw in the asylum for the criminal insane, at Matteawan He demands his release through ilabeas corpus procedure cn the ground that he is a sane man. When today's session was concluded adjournment was taken until July 26.
 Expressed Fear While Testifying.
 For three days the state has been trying to bring out that Tbaw threat ened his .wife's life on one of her visits to Matteawan, as tending to show his irr9tioqality. Blocked at first by ob- jections which were sustained by the court, Thaw's attorney at last failed to show that the alleged conversation at Matteawan was confidential, as be- tween man and wife. and when Evelyn Thaw took the witness chair this aft she told, as if in fear, what Thaw's lawyer has sought most to keep back, of his alleged threat to take her life if he were released from the asylum.
 Whether assumed or not, the trim figure in blue expressed fear while she was testifying. She was quoted afterward as saying that she had tes- tiled because ofethe treatment she had received at the hands of the Thaw family, but on the stand she apparent ly struggled hard not to tell, and when compelled to do so by the court, she obeyed, reluctantly and tearfully. "Threstened to Take My Life When
 Released"
 Did Harry sK.; -Thaw threaten to take your life ?". she was asked direct ly by Deputy Attorney General Clarke.
 Did he at any time say this to you, or this in substance: T shall have to kill you when I. get out of here?
 The court room was hushed. and Evelyn Thaw turned appealing to Jus tice Mills She begged to ibe allowed not to answer because she said she knew she would incur his everlasting animosity; and her attitude indicated she thought he might carry out his alleged threat. She also urged, with some show <of feeling, that she was still Thaw's wife, and no matter how he had treated her. she did not want to testify against him.
 But the court ruled that the only possible ground upon which she could decline to. answer was that it would tend to incriuinate her, and he added he did not see how that would be ap- plicable to -ser situation.
 Then Evelyn Thaw answered.
 "Yes. :. he. did.'f she said in low voice
 What were his exact words?" de- manded MT. Clarke. ss
 He said: When I get out of here I suppose I will have Eo kill you"
 Why did he say~that?''
 'eNe were discussing his mental con dition. I had asked him what he meant, and he said: You know I was not crazy on the night that I shot White I asked him again, and he said: You know that missed White by two minutes on the day before.
 sThaw Denies the Charge.
 Harry K Thaw, when asked about his ;wife.s. testimony after court ad- journed, said he was not surprised at her attitude, but he emphatically de- nied that he has ever threatened her life.
 Tt is very plain to everyone that her story is not true" he said. T never threatened to. kill her. First she says one thing and then another.'
 'Is it true that you made an att tempt on Whites life on the day be- fore the homicide was committed?" he was asked. e.
 II | l4dOr yOu NOlhO loNC lCdlhCo of it before this,"- replied Thaw.
 Unsavory Details Dragged Out.
 Evelyn Thaw. on the stand gave a familiar Thaw trial touch to the pro- ceedings, as did some of the other testimony; dragging out unsavory de- tails concerning the career of Stan ford White.
 Dr. 'Adolph Meyer of the New York state lunacy commission testified that he had talked with Thaw in regard to the reasons which led him to shoot Stanford White, principally the al- legged debauching of young girls, which Thaw said was carried on in Whites various rendezvous.
 Anthony Comstock, president of the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, told of his efforts to assist Thaw, in getting sufficient evidence of Whites practices to prosecute him criminally. Up to. within a day or two or the tragedy. the witness said he had seen Thaw and obtained data from him in regard to Whites conduct. He was of the opinion that Thaw was sane.
 Other witnesses told of their ex- periences with Thaw, when he ap- peared sane.
 Evelyn Terrified by Harry's Threat.
 Before leaving White Plains for New York this evening. Evelyn Thaw dis cussed her testimony today somewhat at variance to her attitude on the stand.
 'Tf the Thaw family had done the right thing by me, would never have taken the witness stand to testify against my husband" she said. But they wouldn't guarantee me the allow ance I asked for when the annulment proceedings were begun. If they had done that would have been far away from here today and Harry would have a better chance of getting his liberty.
 q don't know-what shall do now. I have no idea what my future course will be. I must go out and get a liv- ing somehow. I can't go back to the stage. My notoriety would prohibit that. The public would say testified against my husband to make myself notorious. will try to get work as model. I can. do it, too, I am sure.
 "Often feel sorry I ever saw the stage at all. As model I can be a good girl and earn enough to keep me. I can.hope for nothing from my hus- bands family and that's my position in few words. A
 If I had not been compelled would never have testified against MT. Thaw. But when my husband cut my allow ance to s70 week and $2oO a month he left me with many debts on my hands. T useds-my allowance to clear off my. debts. My. studio costs S95 a month. and I have to buy food and clothes. and the money I get is not more than enough to get along on.s
 i'The questionable fame of this trial will follow me wherever I may go for years and years, and l am living as cheaply as + can. l am Harry Thaw's wife, but I pay the. rent. The land lord sends the bills to me. I don't krow whether or not my husband will haFm~nte- if-he is released. He has