Arizona republican., 1909-05-25

domestic water; that they had tele-
 phone and light service, and there was
 little else the actual residents could
 hope to secure by interpretations; that
 the city would have ten miles of ditch
 es, culverts and fumes to keep in re-
 pair and that they had one water
 main. He believed the taxpayers of the rest of the city would object
 MT. Marks responded that twenty three householders had signed the pe- tition, four were non-residents and ten were probably against it, and that all Mir. Hosey wanted was to evade the taxes to which the latter replied that he had contributed $500 to securing the public utilities now enjoyed, and also s25 to the laying of the water main, which he did not use. He thought when the others had shown the same public spirit, the addition would be built up and made ready for incorporation. The whole matter was referred to the committee of the whole and the city attorney.
 The city marshal asked for a motor cycle with which he could run down speed offenders and the matter was referred to the committee of the whole!
 Then came the joint debate on the prohibition question. It was intro duced by Joseph Thalheimer of the Central hotel, who desired the council to repeal or modify the ordinance passed by the retiring council a short time ago in respect of some features which he said would work a hardship on the salOonkeepers. He did not think the ordinance should be so drastic in the exact dimensions of the glass fronts, the placing of bars, etc. He said the saloons are public places, anyway. and any one who chooses is privileged to look inside; but if the council de- sired more publicity. he was willing, so long as it did not put them to so much expense in remodeling to conform to the exact height of windows, etc, which would cost, approximately, thousand dollars in each case. As for the pur- pose of the ordinance, reasonably car ried out, he had no objection, if it could be shown to him even where il would benefit the enemies of the saloon. and he was willing even to comply to suit their mere wishes, if they would make their demands less expensive. as he was not ashamed of drinking beer in public, and did not think his patrons would be.
 At this point MT Thalheimer became enthused over his ideas concerning the liquor question in general and it's eff fects the world over. He challenged Rev. Orville Coats, who, was present, to show him a country benefited by and otherwise launched in to a discussion irrelevant to the ques ton before the house.
 Mir. Coats, responding, said he sup l ported the ordinance, first, because he | was opposed on principle to the liquor | business; that prohibition was coming l in year, anyway, and in brotherly l flown as easily as possible, this being | only foretaste of what the saloon men were to get later. The substance of it | was, that he wanted to cut off their | ears a little at a time, so it wouldn't | 1urt so much, for they had to go pret- | .y soon, anyway. Then turning to MT. | he said their relations per- ,onally had always been pleasant. He | 1ad no desire to injure him, but he did ! nope to injure the business he was en- gagged in. and since he was challenged. ] ne would reply in general to MT. Thal | leimer's remarks, and proceeded to 10 so.
 Both men occupied the floor two or | three times, and both made use of the , stock arguments in support of their | respective sides, the colloquy being as | friendly as it could be in the nature | 1f things, the council and the citizens | with interest. but without | special edification or illumination on either side. The battle apparently end | ed in a draw, as the council, in the opacity of referee, made no decision, | not even on points, and did not inter- est itself to the extent of referring the matter to the committee of the whole. i From a tactical standpoint, however, I the minister had the best of it, for the i ordinance was left undisturbed.
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