New-York tribune., 1909-11-30
SUFFRAGE PROGR FSS
PANKHURST"S IDEA.
Tells Mrs. Machay Uhere
Increment Here Stands.

In response to a question from Mrs Car
ence Mackay I'm the Hudson Theatre yes
terday morning, Mrs. Emmehne PankhuEst'
the English suffragette. who was speaking
under the auspices OF the League for 20
Iitical Education. did what she has MIN
erto refused TO do. and told what she
thought of the status Of the movement TOT
woman suffrage in America After tue
lecture the chairman. Professor Robert
Erskine Ely, invited the audience To ASH
questions. and Mrs. Mackay. who occupieu
one Of the front seats in the Orches'Ia'
said:
win Mrs PankhuTst tell us what she
thinks OF the progress of the woman sui-
frage movement In this country
Mrs. Pankhurst at first shook her head'
protesting her opinion would be as Naiue-
less as that OF an American who had been
only six months in England ON the EhelSh
situation, and then she added:
Il will say this much: Speaking gener-
ally. you have yet 10 find a way to create
politlcal situation. without which woman
suffrage. as Governor Hughes said, can
not be dealt with as practical political
question. 1 think too. that that stage Is
very near"
How can we create such situatiOn?'
some one asked.
Study the history of men, answered
Mrs. Pankhurst. adapt their methods to
feminine uses learn from their mistakes
and don't be so wasteful as they. Women
have a great advantage in this fight IN
having the experience Of men 10 guide
them"
As no question came from the audience
about the recent assault on Winston
Churchill the chairman asked Mrs. Pank-
hurst for her view of that incident Mrs
Pankhurst replied that the suffragette in
question had acted on her own responsi-
bility, but that in view Of Mr.. Churchilfs
broken pledges 1t was easy to understand
her indignation. She didn't think that Mr..
Churchill had been really hurt
Speaking OF the situation in England. Mrs.
Pankhurst said that the country was in a
state of civil war.
The Liberal party is always saying that
government rests on the consent of the
governed" she said. "and We have taken
them at their word" She continued: I'VE
have said until our consent Is asked we
refuse TO be governed. We are in revolt
II is true We have shed no blood Neither
have we thrown acid; that was a figment of
the journalistic imagination. AS yet no one
has been hurt but ourselves. and will
not resort to other methods so long as we
can get what we want without them. This
is not because we have less determination
and courage than men. but because We
have more self-control and more cOnsidera-
tion for other people. Some Of us are quite
willing TO give ou. lives II need be. Some
people think that 1 issue orders and the
surfragettes obey them. But the case is
quite different. They have to be held back,
not urged forward. and there is always a
danger that some Will break away from all
restraint"
In conclusion Mrs. Pankhurst asked the
women of America TO appeal TO their gov
ernmsnt in behalf OF Alice Paul. the young
American woman who took part in the
civil war in England.
The theatre was packed from the boxes to
the topmOst gallery. ani owing to the Iect-
ure being given under non-partisan au-
spices many women not in sympathy with
Mrs. Pankhurst's aims or methods took ad-
vantage of the occasion TO hear her Some
leading "antis'' were noted in the audi
ence. and women who have been OutspOken
I'm their disapproval Of militant methods
were also present After the lecture Miss
Mary Dreier entertained Mrs. Pankhurst
at luncheon, and among the guests was
Miss Ida Tarbell. who IS a member OF the
State Association Opposed to Woman Suf-
frage.