The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1909-03-12
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8ll gop exactly what was done
q You mean what a3inishrer ss ndicts
An Yes sir
" What was ii
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o. What is that?
~ They had rings pit in tic iorcskin oi their penis
% Is there anywhere III The prison that you could work
lase where that could not lappen'
~ don' know Those kind Of mer would Try i any
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aey were insane.
3 You wouldua fss such pen yost insse 2 n
you ospiial aIl7
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could hc dons.
l At tisi Time you tqeu Of this nu did y6a gss Ssa
anul and enuuai Kinds n punishment inflicted dsuei baa
inc the limbs any members thereof placing keeping he
person in painful posture
a. Tes sr, was perfectly iamiaf with tlaa1 1ut i
liul. tiat 4 violation o. hc law
q. Flow 40 suu arrive az shaA eonelusio
A. Because Tie punishment was painful @ariicNaSy
g. DO you consider corporal punishment
"A. think tfal any punishment iai aflcls ae eJ9 4
yororal.
q. Mas corporal punishment
~ There might be particular definition d aea
Ay Reed (Auoany ior Nir. HaskelD n seems aat
e Questions directed 20 te warden not pfope racf
81 investigations and at Mr. Haskell makes prcIcns
obeng lawyer himself and don't amy advantage would
Be gained Of hc legal effect on This statute OF what would
violation q c statute and i da that basis If an ines
gallon Wl accomplish Eery little.
My Nsss, Aii gsed hasn't go hc point oi aiev saa
md IN mind. caIgc5 far my legal ability allows ne g.
h legal meaning "a hs section have read but al erns nus
Pa Interpreted N c sl 81 the business where ey are used
no having any pesona experience myself Of any character
being acquainted with those matters, vented @ ask the
warden sHe had long experience and member of the
Oklahoma Investigating e0mnise snail insist ha the warden
a eus lel me nhceF ID ns Judgment keeper Of the peni
iesiary nat punishment sueh contemplated .n this hw
and le sud wasn't and hen asked him Va question how ae
arrived a iai conclusion and ar an concerned whit
q us upon hat because may NJ right or may ac Wong
a have right o know oi Air Haskell what ii thc er NJ
ptsop authorities lis punishment b view 81 that sw seSns
Nrs Reed i Noada' Be your contention aat tfe rag.
mB those prisoners corporal punishment within he eleSR
inE VI or stalucF
Mr West: AIS to thai the Oklahoma committee v ~
ifcs willing far these matters might affect any proceeding
concerned that affect them IN Oklahoma ar as ;fc
might alfee any proceeding IN Oklahoma heard Aif Haskell
ac other lay anl knew 81 this law and hiamderstand ii
sbs knew q Mr Haslcl history ios being Christian gea
enan ddn understand bis statement IN lhe iga q this law
Mr iaskei As prison odca understand by that
w in means hc shor whip and tho Say and III hosc things
shall no Dc applied know that III proper sense anything
at affects the body corporal but under our law UNDER
stand Il punishment would apply to the use Of the strap and
c cas and e paddle those forms oi punishment which we
don't have here
Q zen donx think applies to the punishment that you
nained2 M
Ae A. Ra.sr apa think lmteis png N ae most hmale
@alangs That could hayolnandenc = &asa 0 alNq
@ fon think il was more humane than TO have put them
ID the light Of day aud place where they couldn't be secnF
A. know those things do happen in lle light Of day.
N What do you DO with those pccpleP
al We put some III The dark cell and some d Them II the
insane ward Some work IN The kitchen where they arc under
supervision ol an officer all the true
By Mr Chairman would Ike u get your view whether
from youf viewpoint you 10 iis d remedial Or punlshrenf
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