Arizona republican., 1909-03-24

ened either by the witness or the at
torney on that point.
The witness required to a statement
of the day before in which he said that
on some articles more than a I5-cent-
a-mile rate was charged in Arizona,
though that was the maximum under
the territorial law. He gave instances
of 20 cents mile having been charged
for short distances. In support of his
belief of the day before that an So
cent Chicago rate to Phoenix on low
class goods would be remunerative he
quoted the rates from Chicago TO the
, coast.
As to the FL Paso rate. the witness
did not want to be understood as hav-
ing said the day before that it was
abnormally low; it was lower than any
other western rate. but not 50 low as
to be unremunerative. on cross exami-
nation on that point, the witness said
that it was a voluntary rate. where
upon Mr. billiard asked him if he did
not know that the rate had been or
dered by the Texas commission. Mr..
Jones said that he knew that il had
been maintained by the commission.
Mr. Durburrow, reverting to the sub
ject Of the prosperity of the valley and
Phoenix, aske the witness If he did not
think that the railroad rates had some
thing TO do with it. The witness said
that the prosperity was in spite Of the
rates.
The inquiry ran along, first under
one case and then under another the
object being TO secure the testimony
of the traffic manager on all of them
before taking uD any Of the other wit
nesses for the complainant club. The
wheat and flour rates were considered
and it was developed that there was a
great deal Of confusion concerning
them. not only here but everywhere.
The special examiner said that there
was a great deal Of chaos about all
rates, a fact that the commission real
ized. Mr.. billiard admitted it but he
said that the railroads were now en-
gagged in an honest effort to bring or
der out Of chaos. Mr.. Jones mentioned
that eastern rates to Marysville. Cal.
Santa Ana, Cal, and Yuma, were all
lower than the rate to Phoenix In
the one case it might be contended
that Marysville was a tidewater port;
in another that Yuma was a mainland
town, but no excuse could be offered
Of the lower rate to Santa Ana, which
was situated on a branch road.
Phoenix Outbound Rates.
The witness said that the rates on
freight outbound from Phoenix were
unreasonable in respect to the classi-
fication of commodities. Originally
there were thirty-seven commodity
rates. Now there were a few more
than eighty out of the 5000 or more
many Of the more important ones hav-
ing been denied to Phoenix That, he
said, was a discrimination between
commodities. He dwclt upon the un-
fairness and inconsistency of the rates
affecting Phoenix. This led to an in
quiry by Mr.. Durburrog, If the witness
knew how the Phoenix rate had been
constructed, and in reply to his own
question said that it was not built on
the rate TO Los Angeles as many people
supposed. and as the witness had stat
ed the day before, for Los Angeles had
ceased to be a basic point.
Mr. billiard asked some questions
about the Phoenix rate as affecting
the milling business and wanted a
yes or no" reply. The witness pre-
pared to enter into an explanation of
the reply he was about to make when
objection was raised The examiner
thought an explanation was not neces-
sary. but Mr.. billiard settled back in
his chair with an air of Christian res
ignation and murmured, 20, let him
make a speech"
This matter having been disposed of,
Case 1880 was taken up. That is the
case relating to the rates from Phoe-
nix to the coast and from Los Angeles
to Phoenix, Mr.. Jones again referred to
the unfavorable zone occupied by this
region. He took up the articles of
lumber, crude oil, coffe and live stock.
1t was shown that the live stock
rates from this city to the coast were
sl26.S5 a car for beef cattle, while the
rates from FL Paso, much farther. were
S1I3 a car Crude oil was Sc a ton
from the coast while to Red Rock the
rate was IS. After some further IL
lustrations. the special examiner asked
the witness whether il would be salts
factory if the roads would give Fhoe-
nix the Colorado rates.
A Rate for the Valley.
The forenoon session was concluded
with a length and heated colloquy be-
tween General Counsel Norton of the
Santa Fe and Traffic Manager Jones
in relation to the rates on hay and
grain to points on the Santa Fe, Pres