The Birmingham age-herald., 1909-10-24
CHURCH AND STATE IN GERMAN EMPIRE Court Chaplain 0ryander Talks
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 Negro Youths in German
 Colonies in Africa.
BY STEVEN BURNETT.

Berlin, October 23-Echo reaches me through an American friend, the presi- dent of a great American college of a long conversation had by him few days ago with his exeellency, Dr. Dryander the kaiser's intimate friend and 1t may be said, confessor for he is first chap lain to the Berlin court and closely ac- quainted with the kaisers sentiments and opinions.
 The topic of discussion was the part Germany was taking and meant to take in evangelization by foreign missions. Dr. Dryander confessed that Germany had been very slow in coming to ''world-con- seiousness largely, perhaps because, until recently, she had no colonies' Then his visitor suggested that as Germany was to have the biggest navy In the world she would be expected to do her share in world evangelization. The white-haired veteran of the pulpit at this held up his hands and said. with much earnestness: ''Ah, but we are going to have the big gest navy in the world, and we don't want it, either. No thinking man among us believes that we ought to have the biggest navy
 4 further remark that, as Germans are now going with their comrades into all parts of the world, and that German merchants and the representatives of Ger y of responsibility rested upon Germany to carry the message of Christianity along with her trade, drew from Dr. Dryander statement that the responsibility did rest upon Germany, but, he added: We are far behind the churches in America and England in the matter of foreign missions. Perhaps we may do more; we ought to, and l hope We shall.'
 Another tonic fOuchad ,1por VuaS tho ra lations between church and state in Ger many.
 Asked whether there was any probabl- fty, near or remote, of dsestablishment Dr. Dryander was very emphatic in say ing that such thing was not to be thought of, first, because of the consti- tutions of the empire and the Kingdom of Prussia, and next, because of the histor- ical relation of the kaiser to the church, as chief bishop, dating from the time of Martin Luther. There was no opposition, Dr. Dryander said in Germany towards religion, so far as its relation to the state was concerned; that "even the so- cialists believed in supporting the church," and at the same time calling at tention to the fact that the Prussian land stag recently voted $2. .500OOO for improv- ing the condition of the clergy
 The conversation then turned upon the kaiser and Professor Harnack, who is well known in England, as elsewhere, for his unorthodoxy.
 Some of us in America" said the American visitor, find 1t little difficult to understand how it Is that you and Professor Harnack, men of widely differ ent theological views, are both such fa- vorites with the kaiser.''
 The court chaplain laughed heartily and said: But that is very easy to explain The kaiser is a modern man. he is manv- sided, takes a large view of things and Is interested in men and movements Of widely different type. Professor Harnack is one of our greatest scholars The kai- ser and he are very warm friends, and naturally so Do you know that Profes- sor Harnack is now at the head of the royal library?