The sun., 1909-06-29
The SUGAR LAWYERS PLEAD
THAT IF JOHN e. PARSONS Or
PENDED IT'S OUTL4WED.

interview OF Counsel fer Parsons, klsses
and the Trust with u. 9. District At
toruey Wise-Gsyernment COnte9tion
Said to Bo That the offence Continued.
While the Federal Grand Jury ad-
journed again yesterday without making
known the result Of It's investigation
OF the American Sugar Refining Company
and it's loan OF $1.25O,Ooo to the Pennsyl-
vania Sugar Refining Company. rumors
OF impending indictments in the case
were thicker than ever. principally be-
cause lawyers representing the sugar
trust and some OF the individuals hgur-
ing in the transaction spent more than
two hours with District Attorney Wise.
The lawyers who called upon the Dis
trict Attorney were John M. Bowers,
representing John e. Parsons, who,
with the late President Havemeyer.
arranged the Kissel loan to Adolph Segal;
William D. Guthrie. counsel for Mr.. Kis-
sci. and John @. Milburn. who represented
the American Sugar Refining Company.
although Mr.. Parsons has heretofore
appeared in that capacity. 1t was said
that Mr.. Guthrie and Mr.. Bowers also
appeared for the company as well as for
the individuals named.
All three OF tho lawyers argued for
more than two hours on the proposition
that IL any offence had been committed
by the company or any OF its officers
in the loan made through Kissel to Segal
which resulted In removing the Pennsyl-
vania company as q competitor. prose-
cution was barred by the statute OF limi-
tations. This loan was made Ia 1908.
While no authoritative statement could
be obtained yesterday OF the Govern
ment's side OF the matter, II is under
stood to be it's contention that while
the loan was made 30 far back az that
the offence, II any. under the Sherman
law was continued long enough 70 bring
wears. The testimony taken In the civil
case shows that the pressure was brought
to bear on President Nipple Of the Real
Estate Trust Company OF Philadelphia
until August. ib06. when he committed
suicide. Indictments found prior to Au-
gust next would come within three years
from that date.
OF District Attorney Wise and was re-
saried a. somewhat unusual, although
Mr.. Wise said that such Q thing had hap
peped before In some cases and that any
one had the right TO appear. before the
Government prosecutor and state his
views even before indictments had been
found.
Mr.. Wise did not give the lawyers any
statement OF the Oovernment's view
Of the case. but said that he would listen
to their arguments. None Of the lawyers
would disc,iss their visit when they left.
The Grand Jury continued to hear wit
nesses In the case yesterday. William
H. Ramsey. who was made president
Of the Pennsylvania company By tho
sugar trust after II had got control by
reason OF the stock put up for che loan.
WAS one Of the witnesses He spent about
an hour with the jury. f. Gordon Brom-
ley, a lawyer OF Philadelphia. also testi-
fed.
District Attorney Wise said yesterday
that the investigation was not finished
and might 60 on for at least two weeks
more. In many Of the recent Federal
cases the Grand Jury has con tinled
it's !abors after handing in initial indict..
ments and there was q belief expressed
about the Federal Building after the
lawyers call that something would be
made known this morning.
District Attorney Wise sails this morn
ing for Paris. II was said that his depart
ure would have no effect on the continu-
ance Of the investigation.