New-York tribune., 1909-07-30
THAW'S GRILLING ENDS
ASKED ABOUT ALIENISTS'
OPINIONS.
Jerome WOrries Him about 4dJice
to DeImas- -Hnrtridge and MrS.
Merrill WitneSSeS.

q am through with this witness. There may
be a question or two 1 may wish TO ask him
later"
So spoke District Attorney Jerome in the
courtroom at White Plains late yesterday after
noon. Harry X. Thaw, who sat in the chair be-
side Justice Mills. showed no eIation over the
end OF the ordeal He waited deliberately in
the chair while Jerome and Morschauser, his
counsel. discussed arrangements 10 enable the
latter mine certain papers which had been
found in Thaw's cell in the Tombs Then he
strobe briskly back to the inclosure reserved for
the counsel and witnesses
Thaw had been on the witness stand for four
long hours. a much shorter period than that OF
Wednesday. but one that infinitely more
trying 1t told on him, too, but he gave his re-
plies with care, as Mr.. Jerome launched at him
a seemingly innumerable assortment OF docu-
ments. most Of them in Thaws handwriting.
His worst spell came when Mr.. Jerome asked
him TO explain various incoherently worded
memoranda which he had submitted TO Dolphin
NJ. Delmas, his counsel in his first trial. for the
latters guidance in summing up. Some Of them
plainly caused the witness trouble. but he was
deft in explaining his purpose in writing this
stuff that had been submitted to the lunacy
commission as evidence of his insanity. This
part OF his task. together with his effort 10 dis
prove DR.. Allan McLane Hamiltons allegation
concern than did the testimony of his former
counsel, Clifford w. Hartridge, and Mrs. Susan
A. Merrill They were called TO prove the
woman's assertion that Thaw had contributed
money to the support of young girls whom he
had beaten in his rooms.
WIFE SMILES AT GRUELLING.
His wife was in the courtroom, smiling easily
during his grueng examination, but he did not
look once in her direction.
Thaw took the stand shortly after the be-
ginning Of the afternoon session. Mr. Jerome
got down TO work at once by asking Thaw for Il
cleaner exposition of the witnesses opinion of his
sanity at the time he killed White.
Q.-Were you crazy when you killed White
A--No. not medically crazy.
Q.--How do you know? A.-Because aliensts
o-Who? pr 4 Lamb NIB, Or Dr. Ralsr 2e,S;;r- did 20
S%o[e IN S9r m Mind a5 You we're 9a g de
known the nature of your act when you killed
Q."Didn't DR. smith Ely JeIIine swear to that
effect? Al think he die
Q1And DR.. Charles " Pilgrim? A-Yes. I
Q.-And DIR. Alinas s Gregory? Al think not
said II because of mental arrangement 1
dia not know the nature and quality Of my act
Mr. Jerome read portion of DIR. Whites testi
mony bearing Oh Thaw's mental status at the
time OF the shooting of the architect. and then
handed the volume Thaw. who scanned the
passage with nervous eagerness.
Q-You don't think the jury would have &C
quilted you unless they thought you suffered from
defect of reason? A.-You will have TO ask the
jury.
Q-Ddn't Or. Graeme Hammond express the
same opinion? Al think he did 49,. ,,,
Q.-N hat about DIR. Wagner? Didn't he think
t-And don't YOU know that DR. Hamilton was
Ri Red he wBe qR9Sn % tnd' think Gn M
is at least as good as Dr. Hamilton's
Thaw bowed assent when Jerome asked him
if he had heard various aliensts testify that his
mental state at the time of the shooting was
not such to permit him to realize the nature
of his Thaw looked little bit more seri-
Gus and his manner perhaps less easy than
when he the stand Wednesday, but
he alert 10 the queries of the District At
torney.
sir. Jerome again sprang the name Of DR..
Hamilton. for whom Thaw has a special aver
sion.
MORE QUESTIONS ON SANITY.
Odd you not understand that il was Hamil-
ION : opinion you were crazy? A.-No-
Q-lou mean Hamilton thought you were sane?
Al don't know what Hamilton thought
Jerome the long list of medical wit
nesaes.
c.-Did you not know that these men thought
you weto lnsaneT A.-They said / was deranged.
Q.-Aou understood there fourteen OF them
who swore you were suffering from sorne mental
aiiment; A defect
Q.-Do you believe you had a defect OF reason?
Al cah ( zen you positively think So
knew said il brain storm.
tg.DO you think IL proceeded from q diseased
mind? A-Not q diseased mind. 1 did not &c: pt
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