The Ogden standard. [volume] (Ogden City, Utah) 1902-1910, 1909-06-22
SCOTT SAYS
HERE is
GRAFT
MAKES CHARGES BEFORE THE
INDUSTRIAL COMMITTEE.
Band Played While Boys Were Whip
ped-Screams OF the Youngsters
Were Drowned by Music.

The committee investigating the In
dustrial School management, ycster
day evening adjourned to meet at
a. M, Wednesday.
AT the afternoon session J. II. Scot
continued his testimony. and statet
that in the fall of 1907 he saw bo,
named Capien or Green. he was no
sure which, In the sick room of tn,
institution, where he had been taker
after being Whipped, and that Il piec,
OF flesh had been torn from his arm
Witness stated that he had seen othel
boys In the plunge room who were
sunering from bruises received il
whipping, and that their bodies were
covered with black and blue. as vel
as red marks. He stated an instance
| where four boys, including one Wells
had attempted to escape, but that
| Wells had turned traitor and informed
on the boys. They were captured in
| the playroom In the act OF cutting
through one of the window screens.
He said that the four were placed In
the cell, but tnat Wells was released
the next day, although he understood
that the other three had been whipped
and kept in the cell for some time.
He was asked If he did not have
plenty of work to do at the school at
the time he was working on Superin-
tendent Thomas house, and said in
answer that he did: that two new dor.
mitorieS were being built at the time
as well as considerable other work He
then told about the seventeen
year-old son OF Thomas, who
returned late one night from town
and ordered one Of the boys to put up
his horse, whica the boy refused
to do. THE watchman ask
cd me about it," he said, land [
told the boy to put up his own horse
superintendent Thomas was in Cali
fornia at the time, and when he re-
turned he called me TO his office and
asked me why | had talked in such
manner to his son, He said that it
was no way TO speak TO a son of his,
and that the boy might have been in
Jured, as the barn contained danger
Gus horses. | understood that Thomas
laid more blame on Assistant Superiu-
tendent Kneass for the incident than
he did on me-"
Scott testified that the four boys
had taken tools from his carpenter
snop with which to cut their way
through the screen He said that he
had resigned from his position. al
though Thomas had told him that he
was going TO lay him off, as he was
inefficient and inexperienced
In speaking of the work which he
had done on Superintendent Thomas
house ne said that he knew OF other
Illicit proceedings at the school. one
Of which was the supplying of gro
ceries to the school by T p. Evans |
at the time he was a member Of the |
board Of trustees. which was clearly |
against the law, Scott denied that |
ne made prayer on a street corner in
Salt Lake in which he asked that he
night have Il golden sword to punish
Thomas.
He said that Ole Peterson.
IN inmate of the school. was
caught smoking tobacco and was
placed in cell; that he had seen him
here when he was in charge of the
ellis, and that the boy had died in
September of typhoid
When Captain Kneass was recalled
o the stand he testified that he
new Of two instances where employees
/
# the institution during the time Of
heir employment. Scott the carpen-
er. and Griffin, the plasterer. had
'orked on Thomas residence. He said
e made out the check for Kneass for
~ for twenty-one days work at the
chool under Thomas direction, and
hat the superintendent had certified
D Its correctness. He related the in
ldent when the band was ordered to
lay while seven boys were being !
'hlpped for misconduct on camping
rip. Kneass said he did not order the
and to play for the purpose of drown
lg the screams of the boys, but after
ards was glad that 1t had done so.
5 mis- wife was sick at the time and
lie noise would have annoyed her
he chaStlsement Of the seven bows
,ok forty-tve minutes, and Superin- !
,ndent Thomas, himself, Griffin. Ny !,
IS and Ackeret took part in the fog
ing. Captain KneasS indicated how
lie boys were whipped. using Chair !.
ian Harry Joseph as the subject. The
ltnesS testified to the using OF the
regon boot at the school at several '
mes. The last time it was used was .
l an inmate named Ferris y
Lewis Miller, employed at the school =
'o years ago, told of the whipping of .
'hn kooyman until the lad was red
Id blue. The use Of the Oregon boot ,
as made on Ferris, the witness said
Id several others during his term of II
nployment Witness said he was dis
larged but Is not certain of the a
aSonS.
After the testimony of Miller was
included DR.. L. NJ. Conroy of Ogden,
ho formerly was a member of the eI
ard OF trustees, was called to the c,
and, where he created a mild sensa- al
IN by refusing to be sworn, saying a.
at he was not anxious TO testify a.
d If they did not care for his plain
without the formality of IL
wing and taking oath he would retire in
exception was made in his case l..
d the doctor said he had heard Of O,
c use Of the Oregon boot at the n,
hool and that after he had conferred tn
tn the superintendent the use of
g boot at the school was dlscontin- F,
d. He said that the cells in which "
? boys were confined for unruliness OF
re unSanitary and the effect of con
ing boy In sncn a cell was liable IS
inJure his health He said that all D.