The Birmingham age-herald., 1909-03-16
Inquiry By Gaines.

Inquiry By Gaines.
 Have you the warrant of the repub- lican insurgents for the statement that you made that they would stand with the democrats" inquired MT. Gaines of West Virginia.
 "Oh ask the insurgents; they know how to talk" replied Mr Clark.
 Mir Clark yielded to MT. Gardner of Massachusetts, an insurgent.
 The alliance between the insurgents and the democrats,' remarked MT Gard ner amid republican applause, goes merely to changing the rules. As to what happens when the proposed -committee is appointed there is no understanding under Heaven"
 That is precisely what I said" inter- jected Mir. Clark He insisted that the democrats and insurgents, on his pro- posed committee on rules stood firm as a rock in favor of the proposition to revise the rules.
 And l indorse that statement so far as I am concerned shouted Mir. Gard MT. Olmsted of Pennsylvania, demand ed the previous question on the Clark resolution and the Fitzgerald amendment thereto. An agreement was reached to continue the debate one hour longer and the demand was withdrawn.
 The time was controlled by Messrs Fitzgerald and Clark, who yielded sev- eral times.
 Taft In Sympathy.
 Mir. Gardner declared that President Taft was in sympathy with the move- ment to change the rules.
 In the opinion of MT. Townsend, Mich igan, the insurgents were seeking chean notoriety at home, 'but," he inquired, 'how are they going to reconcile their responsibility with their votes of to- day?'
 Declaring himself a believer that the rules or the last House were the best that could be devised, MT. Dalzell, Penn- sylvania, said the only ones who were cpjecting to them were those who knew nothing about them. He declared that the rules were the evolution of 12O years of parliamentary experience and repre- sented the wisdom of the most accom-. c,shed statesmanshfp of the last two de- cades of American history.
 inc debate was brought to a close by Mir. Fitzgerald. who asserted that there nd not been j legitimate criticism of ne rules.
 Why did you not submit your resolu- ton to the democratic caucus? asked MT. Pujo, Louisiana, amid democratic applause.
 "Because,' retorted MT. Fitzgerald 'I could set only three minutes of a dem- ocraic caucus to state my position on the ,lles.'
 Substantial Reform.
 Addressing the democrats, MT. Fitzger- aid said the republicans did not welcome the changes he proposed. "They take them in preference to something else;' he charged that the democrats had sug- gested nothing but delay. T suggest some substantial reforn,'' he said. You had the opportunity to formulate your ideas as to what changes were to be made to the rules"
 The vote then was taken on the Fftz- gerald amendment to the Clark resolu- tion. The Fitzgerald amendment was adopted, yeas 211, nays 172; present and not voting 1O Party lines were badly broken On this vote Representatives Hollingsworth and Johnson of Ohio, and Steenerson of Minnesota, left the 'ln- surgerts'' to vote aye.
 The following democrats voted for the amendment:
 Brantley, Bartlett, Broussard, Condry, Edwards, Estopinal, Fitzgerald, Fornes Goldfogle, Goulden, Griggs. Harrison, Howard, Kelliner, Lee, Lindsay, Livings- ton, McDermott, Moon, O'Connell Peters - Riordan and Parkman.
 The Clark resolution was then voted down by d viva voce vote and subse- quently. laid on the table.
 On motion of MT. Payne the House thereupon, at 5:H p. m., adjourned.