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testimony Completes the Pres
entation Of Their Case to
Commission.
RIO eRANDE BEING HEARD.
* clark. General Attorney for tho
system. outlines Case at Yes
terday's Session.

. .-,ed is completed, Mr.. OUTFLOW, al
~ for the Southern Pacific rail-
"a announcing at the conclusion OF
y. testimony OF Mr.. Jones and Mr..
p.eves that his roads rested
n clark, general attorney for the
n.nver & Rio Grande. then outlined
M. case OF the road represented by
~, and while he said he did not
. sn,end 10 duplicate the evidence pre-
san,ed bv the Hartman roads, he be-
ssyed that the rates charged by the
n Iosnver & RIO Grande were Just and
n reasonable a themselves ana Dy com
.,rison with those of other lines. Mr..
55ssrk said he proposed to introduce tho
srSsence OF the chief engineer of the
n .a5 profle maps Of all the lines,
f. sboving the peculiar and extraordinary
.s,aifions under which the road was
. s.li and operated and the topograph-
,al and other conditions under which
. n was maintained. The evidence
.,,d also include the actual cost ut
the property and the cost o; reproduc-
atom I'm every detail Other reports
- h introduced would show the value
and estimated cost Of all equipment,
rolling stock and machinery
through evidence to be introduced 10y
uniting the auditor on the stand Mr.
,gark said he would show tho capital
Isation OF the road, net income. surplus
4 Or deficit and the income from securi-
,ies with the book cost Of the road ana
Its eouipment Interest on bonds. divi-
bends paid for 10 years compared with
taxes paid, gross operating expenses
per mile, train mile and ton mile, and
he ratio OF income TO operating eN-
penses would also be shown. The at
torney promised to show the increase
N daily wages and the proportion of
wages to total expenses; increase in
me cost Of ties and coal and a COM
harrison OF the wages OF the Denver
4 Rio Grande trainmen with those on
other lines. He said the general pas
seneer agent would furnish data on
passenger traffic and the general
freight agent would present state
ments regarding the density OF popu-
lation along the line.
MUNROE CALLED BACK.
After the completion Of the exam
ination Of l.. J. Spence, general freight
agent OF the Southern Pacific Steam
ship company. j. A. NIunroe, general
traffic manager OF the Union Pacific
railroad. was called back to the witness
stand MIR Munroe said he agreed WITH
President Taft. who IN his talk at the
Commercial. club. said he did not think
Utah should have a mileage basis for
rates because, in the opinion Of wit
ness, q they were put into effect Utah
p0iaiOes. sugar. canned and dried fruits
and other home products could not be
marketed In the fields now reached by
these products. Judge billiard conduct
Cd the examination OF Mr.. Munroe and
part Of his testimony was as follows
Mr. Dillard-Mr Munroe. with ref
- flff "a, fraN Ia.
evidence, compiled from the Underhill
tables, YOU were asked 70 make GER
tan calculations as to what would he
the loss in revenue on wcstbound
freight TO Utah common points If the
rates requested by the complainants i'm
this case we're granted. Have you
made such calculations?
Mr. Munroe-Yes; westbOund tom
mage for the year 1908 TO Utah common
points from Missouri river and east,
all lines, for the calendar year 1905.
which is the list you refer to. Of the
underhili reports. II shows the total
tonnage for the year 10 have been 49,
4lS tons. The total revenue. based on
the present S2.05 scale. Is $3.50, 43.
me revenue on the basis as prayed foi,
or on the sl.65 SCALE would be S2,2S4,-
sN2b, decrease in revenue of $685.
tiSlli or 1885 per cent OF the revenue.
That is gross revenue BY all lines, taken
from the Underhill bureau. and we
have applied. In each case, the rate
banned In the Si.6S scale for the year
1905 That is the last year we have
The record. ] might add that since the
bureau has been discontinued. so that
That Is the last figures we have.
Mr. Dillard-YOu refer 10 the S205
scale and Si6s scale Tho commodity
rates are also embraced there. Did you
apply to the commodity rates request
ed also?
Mr. Munroe-Yes BY the 81 .6s scale
mean the whole scale. class and COM
modify.
Ar. Dillhrd-what did you make the
total loss?
4lr Aunroe--S5554 ASH
MT Dlllard-ls that loss simply TO
tlah common points?
MI MunrOe-Hes. including Park
city stations In Utah. Ogden and
south; what We cali the bureau sta
lions
MR. BABCOCK's TURN.
Mr. Munroe was cross-examtned by
NJ Babcock. for the traffic bureau.
NJ Babcock asked:
Mf Munroe. you have not discovered
lhe complaint or the tables that have
Ken submitted by the complainant,
way any Increase IA rates has been
eshed Tor anywhere. have you?
Mf Munroe--No. don't assume
uu anybody asks for an increase Ia
''..s no matter how just
mr habcock- Qnterruptlng)- Speak
Mh or the products OF Utah. potatoes
an example, that rate based on
..l,1se basis would produce a rate so
t."t on ltah potatoes 10 reach mar
rNe. would be prohlbitive--
or Munroe- 0nterrupting)- That d
thought ] have.
SIT habcock-DO you think there n
uangor OF the carriers making
on mat commodity from Utah so
"sn as % KIN the husiness7
NJ Muhfoe-lhey wouldn't Wish TO-
NJ Babcock- Would they do itp
All. Munroe-All carriers have an
,ulauon 10 their owners 10 get "A
return ON the property. and M they
~ sol Niai they have 40 study 10
e,,.,.u tnelr revenue or reduce their
lt,E And II ia not al an lm-
tor,a ~, loh "a mileage basis) that
~, antaniage IN these rates would
Nissan pc made; not such az 10 be
dn,' le 20 me Utah and Idaho pros
but such as 70 give me carrier
tsier return which would reduce tho
on these producers from Tho
an. nl prleesl % which they feel they
Justly entitled.
MI, hahcock-You are not likely 10
~ any rates for your own road fthe
no, facihc) that viii prevent me
ios s','p'nt OF this commodity? Pota-
,,9sl Munroo-We wouldn't want IN
eour.o N any suicidal proposition, OF