New-York tribune., 1909-10-18
GEORGE md TVINs At III.
Each Wakes a Statement Denging
What the Other Saus.

statements by Henry George and William n
.'iuS ne" back and forth yesterday. Mr.. George
quoted from his book on the life OF his father
~ snow mat Mr.. Ivins had offered him nomina-
~" ior congress If he would withdraw as a
ma yoraity candidate and Mr.. WINS denied the
~ho'e thing all over again. This is Mr. Georges
statement:
,s All mas prepared statement. published in the news
sfoTy ~. nus morning. William NJ Wins denies a
rom 51eIS th George my father. $4,000 to withdraw
admits what he denied in 1897 when my father
tba1 public statement on the matter, namely
IIlGaSSoralty, but instead TO accept Democratic
Mr.. Ivinss memory is faulty if he thinks nv
"a ,ses had any such familiar intercourse with him
the very FIRST time they met was in seshortneT n9s
IS;n, an Ill close TO the Astor Library, at Mr.
spoke for the wings Of the Democfatic party ne
bj, tOOIIy 80 , democracy and the Tammany urged
United labor party: and to accept instead joint
might get he conId nor he ahy a votes my father
counters ~ " u W.
In response TO a statement made in the news
papers by Mr. Abram S. Hewitt relative to the 1885
campaign my father toward the close OF the iS97
campaign and just a few days before his death
issued a statement. which with the attendant cir,
Gumstances may be found on pages 462-46S of THE
LIE OF Henry George" by me. The statement is
Before my nomination had formally taken place
WINS then Chamberlain Of the city and close
II.
privately meet him. did so at Seighortner's. on
Lafayette Place We sat down in a private room,
unattended and smoked some cigars together Mr..
ly1ns insisted that could not possibly be elected
MAYOR OF New York. no matter how many people
might vote for me: that the men who voted knew
nothing OF the real forces that dominated Sew
York.
He sa that I could not possibly be counted in.
he offered on behalf of Tammany Hall and The
County Democracy that IL I would refuse me
nomination for Mayor they would me for Con
gress select city district in which the nomination
of the two was equivalent to election: that should
be Al no expense whatever hut might go TO Europe
or anywhere willed and when came back should
receive certificate of election to the House Of
Representatives. ] said - him finally:
q" You tell me ] cannot possibly get the office.
Why, if l cannot possibly get the office. do you
want me TO withdraw? His reply was: You can
not be elected, but your running will raise hellH
do not want the responsibility and the work OF the
Office Of the Mayor OF New York, 1ut do want 20
raise hell. am decided and will run a"
Mr. Ivins's reply 70 the statement was:
The quotation which Mr.. Henry George. jr., now
makes is. If my recollection serves taken from the
gentleman's life of his father. My own memory is
with Henry George ST., but that is no issue in the
present campaign.
In 1897 denied that had ever offered Mr.. George
a nomination in behalf OF Tammanx Hail. and also
denied that any such conversation as that here
given took place between I still deny it, MI
George is dead. and care 10 say nothing further
about the matter Even the courts will not permit
one to testify TO conversation with parties
deceased.
II will be noted that Mr. George does not repeat
the accusation which made yesterday that
attempted to bribe his father.