Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1909-11-30
Memorable Day in British
House of Lords.
PEERS ATTEND IN FORCE
Archbishop of York Speaks in OPP
position to Amendment.
CROWDS CHEER THE CABINET
Belief in London That Premier In
tends to Prorogue Parliament.
To See King Tomorrow.

LONDON. November 30.-This was
day in the history of the house OF LORDS
long to be remembered
The session was given over to the
concluding arguments and division On
the governments budget bill and the
debate was the most interesting that
has been heard in the upper chamber in
many years
The interest of the members and
other auditors was intense throughout
The galleries were more crowded than
on any preceding day since the debate
began and the peers. whose presence In
view of probable division was urgent
ly requested by party whips. gathered
in force
The episcopal benches were filled, a ma
jority of the bishops being present to hear
their colleague, the Archbishop of York.
who was the first speaker of the after
noon. Several peers who had never even
taken the oath of the chamber were
sworn in. in order that they might vote at
the evening division.
Archbishop's Speech.
The Archbishop of York said that he
would have to take a position some
what different from that Of the primate
and that if he voted he would vote
against Lord Transformers amendment.
He joined with those. ne said who de-
plored the Introduction of the amend
ment. and had not heard arguments sui
hciently persuasive to prove to his salts
faction that the budget was bad enough
to justify the unprecedented course pro-
posed by Lord Lansdowne.
Warned of Consequences.
The archbishop said that it would be
unprecedented for the lords to reject a
finance bill passed by the house of COM
mons with such majority. The peers
would be judged he thought, not by their
intention but by their performance and
no matter what they said it would be I'M
derstood that in refusing supplies for the
year they had rejected the budget
Quoting Lord Chatham, he commended
that the consent of the peers was neces-
sary only to clothe with the form of law
TAX determined by the crown. The gift
of grant was of the house of commons
alone. The constitutional question was
one, the speaker declared, which would
profoundly stir the people Of the country
and many persons would prefer the pass
ing of a bad budget to tampering With
the fundamental principle of the consti-
tuition.
1t Was not 10 prove tNdt
the budget was bad. On that point suf-
ticient had been allowed. The question
was whether the lords were competent.
apart from the prerogative of the crown.
to dissolve parliament or compel the
house of commons to pass a budget not
its own, but one acceptable to the lords
The effect of the amendment adontec
would be TO endanger the existence of
the second chamber, never more neces-
sary than HOW.
Supported by Curzop.
Lord Curzon, former vceroy OF India.
in supporting Lord Transformers amend
ment, objected to the assertion that the
budget bill WIS an instrument CT special
reform. Neither side of the house, he
said, had a monopoly ,of the desire to
ameliorate social evils. There were two
pressing questions. Tile first was whether
the nation was safe, and the other
whether the people were sound. But
neither question he thought could be
settled by taxation. If once set I'D the
development of the taxes proposed in the
budget could not be arrested.
The cabinet met at noon today for the
purpose of discussing the form of the
kings speech prorosuing parliament
All of the members. with the exccp-
ton of Sir Edward Grey. secretary of
state for foreign affairs, were present
A crowd. in which were many pho
tOgraphcrs, filled the street and mildly
cheered the ministers as they entered
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