The Montgomery advertiser., 1909-03-16

with the psmoeratsr' incurred Mir Gaines of West Virginia. C. Ask "Insurventa.~
 "oh" responded Mir. Clark, "ask the insurgents: they know how to talk
 Mir. Clark yielded to MT. Gardner, Massach usetts, an "insurgent."
 The alliance between the insur- gents and the Democrats" remarked MT. Gardner amid Republican ap- rules. As to what happens when the proposed committee is appointed there Is no understanding under
 That is precisely what I said," in- terjected Mir. Clark. He insisted that the Democrats and insurgents on his proposed committee on rules stood firm as a rock in favor of the propo- sition to revise the rules.
 And l endorse that sentiment so far as I am concerned" shouted Mr. Gardner
 MT. olmsted. Pennslyvania. demand ed the previous question on the Clark resolution and the Fitzgerald amend ment thereto.
 An agreement was reached to con- tinue the debate one hour longer and the demand was withdrawn.
 The time was controlled by Messrs. Fitzgerald and Clark who yielded sew efaI times.
 Mr. Gardner declared that President Taft was, in sympathy with the move- ment to change the rules.
 In the opinion of Mir. Townsend. tMichigan) the insurgents were seek ing cheap notoriety at home, but, he inquired, how are they going to re- concile their responsibility with their votes of today7'
 Declaring himself | believer that the rules of the last House were the best that could be devised. Mir. Daisell. Pennsylvania, said the only ones who were objecting to them were those who knew nothing about them. He declared that the rules were the evo- lution of one hundred and twenty represented the wisdom Of the most accomplished statesmanship of the last two decades of American history.
 FitsgeRald Explains.
 The debate was brought to a close by MT. Fitzgerald who asserted that there had not been legitimate criti- oism of the rules.
 olution to the Democratic caucusT asked M'r. Pujo. Louisiana. amid Dem
 Because" retorted MT. Fitzgerald. T could get only three minutes Of a Democratic caucus to state my posi- ton on the rules.
 Addressing the Democrats Mr. Fits gerald said the Republicans did not welcome the changes he proposed. They take them inpreference to something else" He charged that the Democrats had suggeste1 nothing but delay.
 Il suggested some substantial re- form." he said. You had the oppor- tunity to formulate your ideas as to what chanrea were to he made to the rules"
 The vote then was taken on the Fitzgerald amendment to the Clark resolution. The Fitzgerald amend ment was adopted. yeas Ell. nays. 172; present and not voting. 10. Party lines were badly broken. On thls vote Representatives Hollingsworth and Johnson. of Ohio, and Steenerson, of Minnesota left the insurgents" to vote aye.
 The following Democrats voted for the amendment: Brantley. Bartlett. Broussard. Condry. Edwards Estopin- al, Fitzgerald, Fornes. Goldfogle. Kelliner, Lee, Lindsay. Livingston. McDermott, Moon, OConnell, Peters. Riordan and Sparkman.
 The Clark resolution was then voted down by viva voce vote and subse- quently laid on the table.
 On motion of MT. Payne the House thereupon, at 5:27 D. m.. adjourned.
 Speaker Cannon Talks.
 In a conversation soon after the &C., ton of the House Speaker Cannon com mented freely on the fact that MT. Bry- an had interfered in the interest of the changes submitted by MT. Clark and spoke of the adoption of the Fitz- gerald substitute as triumph over the Bryan forces, saying that the conserv- .tiya Democrats who really want leg islation had practically stood for the old rules with the amendments offered by Mir. Fitzgerald.
 "It was" he said. "a protest by the conservatives against Populism and all kindred things"