Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1909-08-03
EXPERTS ON MENTALITY GIVE
EVIDENCE IN WHITE PLAINS
HEARING.
COURT GETS MORE EVIDENCE
THAN LAWYERS OBTAIN
Pro'seutlon Has Three o.her Expert.
Yet TO ee Examined, and Thaw Has
Trio Of Learned Physicians to Testi.
fy in His Hehalf-prisoner Given
Considerable Freedom BY JaiIer.

nearing. Dr.. Amos T. Baker, first as
ststant physician at Matteawan state
hospital Tor the criminal insane, whose
testimony took up the greater part Of
tne session yesterday afternoon was
recalled this morning. The other ex-
perts retained by the state, DR.. Austin
Flint and DR.. Carlos B. Macdonald.
who have sat all thru the hearing.
We're reinforced by DR.. William
Hirsch. who testified for the prosecu-
tion at the trial.
Thaw had the same trt, Of erne,rts
VINO have already declared he is now
sane and who have been at the elbow
OF his counsel, Charles Morschauser.
since the hearing began. They are DR..
brttton d. Evans, DIR. Isham q. Har-
rts and DR.. William ]. Never. Thaw
walked to the court room from the iai,
just around the corner, attended by his
mother and sister, the former Countess
OF Yarmouth. Altho the warden kept
him in sight there was nothing that
would indicate to a casual observer
that the trio was other than an ordin-
ary family party out for a. morning
stroll. Outside the Jail Thaw is allowed
All possible liberty. Inside the court
room me moves about as he pleases.
Thaw's "Judsmentv Bad.
Altho the impression left by Bakers
testimony yesterday was that he had
asserted that Thaw showed no signs of
paranoia during his first three months
at Matteawan, under Morschauser's 9
cross examination today he declared
ne could not remember ever having
made such statement. He admitted
that he might have said 1t.
The story of Thaw's life at the asy-
lum was continued. Witness admitted
having said at the Poughkeepsie sanity
hearing that In the Thaw case dag
nosis, maniac Oppressive insanity had
never been established On that oc-
casion also he was asked whether or
not he would certify that Thaw was in
sane from his personal observation,
aside from on the Stanford White epi-
sode. His first reply, which he re-
peated today, was that on several oc-
casions Thaw had shown bad judg-
ment." Then he admitted that under
such circumstances he might hesitate
about committing the prisoner to an
asylum.
Says Thaw is Insane.
At the conclusion Of Bakers exam
ination, Justice Mills again stepped into
the examiners case, and from Baker
obtained the clearest statement yet ex-
pressed on the stand at the present
proceedings, regarding the mental con-
dition of Thaw. The result of his ques-
tiontng might be claimed as an ad-
vantage by either sidk. Witness said
that he did not consider the opportunit-
les he had to examine the prisoner suf-
. ficient to permit him to form a satis-
factory conclusion, nevertheless he de-
clared. his belief, that prisoner was now
insane, and that his release would be a
menace to the public safety.
Jerome then recalled Thaw. The dis
trict attorney asked Thaw if he had
such faith in his mental soundness that
he would be willing to submit to exam
ination by the states alienists. Nor
schauser objected. Justice Mills in
terrupted again, to say that Jerome's s
to study Thaw during his long exam
& 1Aiett4OA O1A 'CIlS SLciu. 'WIlCu luCW was
excused, recess was taken.
Thaw Loses His Nerve.
During the recess Jerome's tactics tn
putting Thaw on the stand Immediately
following Bakers testimony and Justice
Mills statement as to it's Importance
was the talk of the court room. Thaw's
manner on the stand was extremely
nervous; in fact he seemed nearer los
ing control of himself than at any pre-
vious time during the hearing.