The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1909-03-12
LANSING TESTIMONY.

No .,r F -" =
@ Did he read paper here1
a. He ddnot
@ Did he have any official connection with that meeting
A. He didn't
@ Did youf
A. did,
q Did YOU make speech lere
a made address there
@ Have you a copy Of iP
A. ] think have around here somewhere.
@ This morning understood you to say that when room
fell down that another man was allowed to help out?
A. That IS when the Slate caves down | win say that
all detail Of the work Of the mines and very familiar
with all Of Il visit the mine frequently and occasionally go
down to the face don't know how often have been there
since have been warden But the details Of the work in the
min don't pretend to know anything about That in charge
Of The mine superintendent
O. Is the water cure painful
A. will say that the cure has not bcen administered
sery many times here
@ About how many7
A. About IS or go
@ In what length Of .uic?
N Three years
Q Yoi feel very L has not been administered ba.
IS or 80 times mtlle last three ycars5
A Yes, sir' feel very sure Of it,
" rs it painful or not what IS your anSwcrl
A have heard say that they would rather have NC
aaier cure than to 60 to the dark cell
9 What your opinion with your experiences gaa
au OF notf
a. No I don't think Il IT,
g. How about the crib is that painful2
a. Any punishment is uncomfortable about prison ead
the object Of punishment is be uncomfortable II put
on punishment with desire to make him comfortable
wouldn't do any good The idea 70 make ha uncomfortable
20 he viii be amsnabe TO the rules and discipline OF tic inst
lion n the shortest possible time without deblalng his physical
vitality without nuring his digestion and nac the
permanent injury The man. The object of punishment is DOT
70 make comfortable, htii 20 make him uncomfortable
The same as sending man 20 prison You don't send linn
prison to make him comfortable you send him daprge him
privileges that he would have the outside before s
u VIII yul answer my question:
"a ietoight ihat answered II
@ WIN you answer fhis question Is tic crib rainb3a
A. No; it's the length otlmc be lays there
9 That IS 70 be ln there og ~ instant Is ro paiasa
A. No. sr
@ How soon does il become painful?
A. Idoat know have never been there
@ Yet you are satisfied after while tlai "a Is taAq5l
A. II Is uncomfortable
@ Is Il painful
A. dor know.
@ You don't know whether painful aol
a. Probably
q In Your opinion IS it painful no.
a. OF course IS painful
By M. Sheldon; II II is painful Is & csuei
A. No.
BY Mr. Reed Doc. make ihe party arromiorabf
cel acute pains
Al Uncomfortable
Mfr West Is there any othcs punishment inflicted bssars
The water cure nc crib and the ring
a. The ring don't give as a punishment ilat gge
more As preventative fo masterbaton aud for sodomg
q Is there any other disciplinary measure used oy gou
Az Yes sir; we have the dark cell We have III some cee
bar that fastened tic wall pi two pins probably
forty inches from The oof and extends up from twenty inches %
two feet with ring the Bur and the andcufed 70 the
ring and will say in that connection that The lom o
punishment i used ii mary other institutions eitgnms
punishment is used in many other institutions something sim
liar
fcontlnued Fomorre~A
Iorea R,ll Nj 521