New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-10-23

TAUuANY LURE TO
HEARST MANAGER,
Wanted Him TO Run for Magor
Says Gaynor Has Messi-
anic Mania" Nozc.

William M. WINS and Job z. Hedges
debated the merits OF the three mayor
atty candidates from the platform o,
Cooper Union. which they had personally
rented for that purpose. last night They
agreed perfectly on the unAtness os
Judge Gaynor. and a typicaIIy Cooper
Union audience approved heartily OF
their denunciatiOns OF the Tamrnany
candidate
Mr.. WINS contended that all antf-Tarl-
many voters should support Mr.. Hearst.
not because Mr.. Barnard was not emil
nently It for the ofics OF Mayor. but
solely on the ground that he did not
think Mr.. Barnard could be elected
On the other hand. Mr.. Hedges asked
support for NTr. Barnard because his
training. his temperament and his great
abilities fitted him TO make the best
Mayor
The name Of Hearst was cheered 90
the echo at every mention. and that OF
the fusion candidats was enthusiastically
ly applauded time and again, bur the
friends of Hearst seemed able 70 make
the most noise.
Mr.. Ivins asserted that IN January, an
active member of Tammany Hail suz-
gested that independents clubs might be-
organized which would boom him Ovfns)
for the Democratic nomination, that he
could probably get the Republican norni-
nation and the support Of Mr.. Hearst.
This would put him. it was pointed out,
he said. In the unusual position OF being
an unanimous candidate for Mayor. He
refused and IN few months the game
was being worked for Gaynor. he said.
There was no chairman, Mr.. Hedges
first introducing Mr.. WINS and the latter
doing the same for Mr.. Hedges later.
'MESSIANIC MANIA NOW.
Starting in by saying that although
some persons thought the campaign
in a girls seminary. Mr.. Ivins declared
that he did not believe in fighting thar
way. Then he launched shaft at Judge
Gaynor because Of the latter's deeIara-
tion that he was called by Providence to
be Mayor. such a man." said the
speaker. sis not mere paranoiac. he IS
suffering from messianic mania
Referring to his charges that Judge
GaynOr met Senator McCarren and Eu-
gene Wood at the Hoffman House in the
interests of an attempt TO declare the
anti-racetrack gambling bin unconstitu-
tional. Mr.. WINS read two personal Hb-
erty" decisions by Justice Gaynor. one
delivered before the passage Of the bin
and the other after He added that II
he heard two men talking about a thing
before they entered a house and talking
about the same thing when they came
out. he did not need very keen powers
to determine what they had been talk
ing about while they were in the house
eff you knew a man 70 have been a
party to a plan to defeat a statute OF
New York. said Mr.. Ivins. you would
say sO.''
''Yes. If you have the proofsg' shouted
a man from the audience.
Don't doubt for a moment that we
have the proofs" responded Mr.. Twins.
EFT is always UP to you to produce
them." cried the man.
WILL PRODUCE PROOFS.
There were shouts Of Put him outrs
but Mr.. Ivins said calmly: "I win pro-
duce them at my time and at my pleas
ure. and at tims when they win Be
most unspeakably deadly
Mr.. WINS went on 20 speak Of the
search Of the anti Tammany forces for
a candidate. and related how he had sue
cessfglly urged Mr.. Hearst to be a cam
didate- At this point the audience
cheered Hearst for nearly two minutes.
-
Mr.. WINS said. but nobody had ever
heard Of Judge Gaynor making a sacri-
fee.
To prove his point the speaker related
how nominations had been offered TO Mr..
GaynOr in the past only to Be refused
because he thought he could not get an
unanimous nomination or because his
chances OF election were too small
Then Mr. Ivins gave what he said was
some inside history regarding the ma
nsuvres Of Tammany Hall TO get a
mayoralty candidate He said:
As early as last January or February
was told by representative man In
Tammany Hail that they saw no possi
bility OF electing the Mayor. and that thers
were some people in Tammany Hall who
thought that the best pOssible fhing 10
do would be 70 eliminate the n1ayoraIty
from Jne controversy tndC with the mayor
atty eliminated from the controversy. Tam
many Hall would have an opportunity 70
elect its county ticket and get control OF
the Board OF Estimate and Apportionrlenr
About two weeks later 7 was waited on
by a very active Democrat. who made tho
suggestion 70 me that he should be per-
mltted TO organize a number Of independ-
ent Democratic organizations. all OF which
would be In my favor for the Nomination.
that there was very little doubt about the
fact that Mr.. Hearst would Be NV frseni
and had no reason TO disbeIieve. he said
that the Republican party would nominate
me, and then he said this:
THE LURE OF TANIAIANY.