The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1909-06-25
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done by the employees. Attorney John
son announced that be viii conclude
the defense of Thomas in two days.
First Witness Called.
The first witness called was John A
lvlDson of Salt Lake. The witness was
employed at the reformatorv from Apri,
of carpentering. Hiram Olsen, a
paroled boy from the school, ne said
was working for him in Salt Lake and
has been for three months since leav'
ing the school. Ivinson declared that
while he was employed az the school
| Thomas was kind courteous and gentle
to the inmates. That his advice TO the
inmates was good. and that the treat
ment Of the boys by other employees
was good. The witness said he never
saw any punishment at the school. He
said he saw the boy Bacon IS back after
ne was whipped last summer and the
flesh was not ''cut out and pushed
back into the sore as described by
the other witnesses. The only evidence
Of the whipping apparent 10 the Wit
ness was "blark. blue and crimson
marks The witness had seen marks
on the shoulders and backs OF other
boys while they were in the plunge.
Admitted that be built the shed over
the cement, which was destroyed at the
school by rain. causing loss of SIS,
and had never heard That the CEN ent
was destroyed. The food. he said, was
usually good, but occasionally the baker
or the cook left and the boys had to
get their own meals, The boys, he said,
were usually strong and well, but when
they got sick they were well cared for
superintendent Nneass gave thelr entire
time and attention 10 their duties at
the school, said the witness.
On DISCRIMINATION. lv1nson al
mitted seeing the boy Ferris wearing an
Oregon boot. but declared that II
didp t harm the boy any. That the
voungster carried the boot around on
mis- leg TO and from MS meals and up
and down the stairs without much IN
convenience. Asked If the employees Of
the school were indignant over the
whipping of bows. he said he knew OF
none who had expressed themselves IN
this way except Carlson. the former IN
structor of blacksmithing at the school
Juvenile Delinouents.
Miss Marv Dale. employed as teach.
er Of the higher grades in the boys
department since September u. 1905.
declared that she had had considerable
experience in the management OF lu-
venile 6eliuuuents For SIX years, she
declared. she was employed IN regular
school work at the Whittier state
school, a Ieforma tory. ct Los Angeles,
Cal The witness also declared that
she taught for some time IN the public
schools OF Council Bluffs, Ia. Since
May % she has been supervising the
bows dining room ar the local school.
At the Whittier school, the witness de-
clared, the grades Of punishment We're:
Standing on guard line without talk
ing: cobbing.' which is beating the
hands of inmates with ruler or stuck,
and strappiug on bare skin. III ONCE
or whipping room. The witness: de.
clared That the "Oregon boot, of
various weights, was used on inmates
Of the Whittier school who attempted
20 escape, from three TO six months at
a time, and that frequently they were
left on the boy who was being pun.
ishcd by putting him IN the cell, Bread ,1i,,
and water diet was an ordinary pun
shment at This most humane school,
according 10 the witness, who de- !
,Iared that the inmates were some
times kept on il for four weeks. The |
last wear she was employed there, the |
witness admitted that the punishment |
nas not quite so severe. Miss Dale !
that the punishment IN the |
Utah school is far 700 mild. She says |
hat the inmates are gwen dement's !
md spoken kindly 10 By the suPerIn- !
.endeht for offenses which were pun
she'd by imprisonment IN the cell. or |
with the strap, Miss Dale |
said that severe corporal punishment
& absolutely necessary IN schools OF |
his kind. She declared that Superin- !
endent Thomas treats the boys In the |
aindest manner.
Saws Food Is Good.
The food served the inmates Of the ,
ocal school. she said, Is better than
he officers of the Whittier school get.
Miss Dale admitted that there had |
reep two Investigations Of the meth
IDS employed at the Whittier school !
3y order OF the governor of California |
and that she had not taught there /
since the last investigation IN July. |
1905. She was not familiar with preva-
ent conditions. The witness went fur |
her still when she declared that the |
90 strict as her ideas are regarding |
he punishment necessary 10 good dis |
,iphne One superintendent of the |
school was disciplined for grating and |
he other investigated for charges of |
oose morals ar the California institu- |
ION. Miss Dale declared that about , |,
Der cent of boys sent TO institutions of |
rcfoTnatorV character are reformed. |
The greater majoritr may remain law.
abiding for some time.
Sherman Smith and John Greeley |
we're the two presidents of the Whit |
.ier school who mad their methods in
yestieated hy order Of the governor |
vhiIe the witness was an instructor at
.he school. Miss Dale declared that !
since the investiga tion Of the local
,chool had been started there was no
.iceable lack of discipline and that
,one Of the boys had openly declared |
hat the superintendent nor the officers |
# the school dared TO whip them. Tn
Ter the questioning Of A. c. Nelson. A |
member of the investigating commit !
ee, the witness admitted that She and ,
Miss Anderson, another teacher at the !
,chool. never conferred together on
Methods Of instruction. Chairman 10.
,eph asked the witness il she is re-
.ponsihle for quotations which have at
racted the attention of those who have
,een attending the sessions of the com
nittee. The chairman referred To the
Inscriptions on the biackboards as
stuff. - The witness replied 'Nes. y
Edward Bichsel o' the Utah Vinegar
{ Pickle works testified that he had