The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1909-12-03

Webster. Thursday morning.
that the Adams report on the
valuation Of uneXpired street !
car franchises Will be ready !
Friday. I
The report OF the committee
of fifty will be completed with I
in week.
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After an hour and half Of tall:
tbout the Gilman Nichols street car
resolution. before the franchise com.
nittce of the council. Thursday morn.
ng. the situation with regard 10 that
measure was little altered. one im-
portant element was missing the az.
itude OF the Detroit United Railway
oward this measure which orders a
hree-cent fare on portions Of the pres
ent fve-cent routes.
No one seemed 10 know whether the
". L. r would accept the proposal OF
What would be done by the city il II
were rejected. There was one d. t..
b. employe present but he was no
more noisy than statue. and the in
Mutations which had been issued to
president Hutchins and General Man
ager Brooks to appear were evidently
scorned
One thing is apparent-that there
will be The bitterest fighting before
this or any other settlement plan is
passed hy the council, even II II he
Ipnlv for temporary settlement.
rhursfay's hearing wound up with
reference OF the whole matter 20 Cor
|poration Counsel Hally for legal
pinion. and another meeting ~ the
committee Vill be held, Monday. a.
which this viii be heard anil some
action taken
The committee room WAS filed with
-dermen. city officials and other in
crested spectators, when tho meeting
ktarted at 10 - o'clock. Mayor Brett
meycr had been requested to be pros
ent. and he was accompanied by Clyde
| Webstcr. chairman OF the legal sub
committee OF the committee OF fifty
A majority 90 the aldermen We're pres-
lent. and n soon became apparent that
opinions arc very divergent as to the
wisdom of the Gilman Nichols meas
lure
Aid. Gilman began With ten min
ute speech in which he outlined the
steps taken bv the MAYOR and coun-
eli with regard 10 street railways re
Gently. He declared the s300-a-day
rental plan inadequate in that II
meant saving OF only y cents on
the s. 600 valuation TO property own
ers Therefore no and City Clerk
Nichols had devised this plan
Wish Immediate Saving.
They wished to effect an immediate
saving in fares TO passengers. lie
recalled the option clause OF the Dc-
troii Railway franchise. ny which that
company was given first chance 10
take over expired franchises. and ar
gued that. since the -. L r. had
bought up the Detroit Railway, II
could uot claim successfully that
demand that IL institute an extension
Of The terms Of that franchise would
be unjust With regard 10 the state
ments that the acceptance OF his plar
would enable The y L. r. to charge
anywhere from 8 To II cents for
de that now costs but a nickel.
Gilman said
THAT question has been brought
out by some 3 ntlemcn more bra'n'"r
than am We grant that is the sit
uation II viii be so until 1924.
CITY Clerk Nichols dsclaimed any
intention OF attracting notice or faV-
oring his chances for Office by bring
ing out tac plan Neither hJd-hc crit
ciZcd the mayor Of corporation c0un-
sci The S2O0a day rental plan mad
failed. he said, since the -. t. r, had
not accepted il in full In reply To
question lry AID Gutman Nichols
said that lie thought the D. u X.
might later sue the city for the re-.
turn Of money paid as rental He
urged the temporary settlement plan
If the delay in effecting a permanent
settlement Is 10 be more than a sew
months ~" admitted that he believed
the H. L. Il. would accept the Detroit
Railways terms for all it's lines. bur
insisted that 1t would not get a final
settlement on anything else than a
fiat three-cent fare basis.
Fifty at D. U. Rs Mercy.
"The committee Of fifty Is at the
mercy Of the ID. L. r. he asserted
IN an argument relative TO the getting
Of correct information as to costs OF
operation.
Mayor Brcitmeycr broke in here
and told Nichols he vas wrong After
that the meeting was featured by in.
terruptions Aid Koenig wanted to
know IL double fares would be pos
sible on account Of the right OF the
company 10 charge separately on stub
ends Of lines.
eyes" replied Nichols and the
same would be the case under munich.
pal ownership
Nichols declared no settlement Is
now In prospect.
How long will it be before you get
| fhree-ffths OF tho voters TO accept a
| franchise that viii be acceptable To
| tho D. L. r. he asked Nichols
| admitted he would ouslder stopping
. the cars as a war me;sdre If the II.
l.. r. would not accept low fares.
THE people would have to walk.
YES. he said Are YOU thinking only
of " hat- tAay-could dn-to- Won and not
Of tho harm it would do the com.
pany"
And The aldermen would all he
| lynched when they stopped the cars.
remarked Nd Tossy. philosophically.
Mayor Breitmeycr talked to the
committee very briefly. lie asked
. that the whole matter SO eft open
until the committee of fifty reports
so the common council lie did not
believe IN passing the Gilman resolu-