Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1909-03-23

asked regarding the JODblng field OF
Phoenix, he said il extended on the
south TO a point this side of Maricopa:
on the north, to a point this side of
Wickenburg and along the A. d c.
road
At the beginning OF the afternoon
session Mr. Jones, still on the stand.
said he wished to correct a statement
made in the morning that there was
no lower commodity rate to Arizona
points than to the coast terminals. He
said he should have stated that there
was no lower commodity rate to Phoe-
nix. The witness said he recalled that
there was a lower rate on packing
house products from Chicago to Flag
staff and WinslOw. $3.50, while the rate
to Los Angeles was $l.65. The South
ern Pacific makes a rate on mining
machinery to Benson Of s1.13. while the
rate to Los Angeles is $3.50. The rate
to Phoenix, however, Is $193.
on east-bOund traffic, the witness
said the rates We're lower TO Missouri
river and intermediate points than to
Phoenix, but the witness said that he
would go into that more fully under
another complaint. lie had not the
figures at hand. Speaking again of
west-bond freight, the witness said
that the rate TO Phoenix and Arizona
points was prohibitive.
Phoenix and Spokane.
Mr. COstigan inquired as to the rela-
ton between the Phoenix and the Spo-
kane situations The witness replied
that they were almost Identical; that
Spokane was about the same distance
Los Angeles. and that on the east the
distance Of Spokane from st. Paul cor
responded to the distance of Phoenix
from Missouri river points. The need
Of relief of Phoenix was as great as
that Of Spokane had been. He gave
the figures OF several commodities.
comparing rates from the east to both
Spokane and Phoenix: for instance,
canned corn from st. Paul to Spokane
was $l.25. while the same commodity
from Missouri river points to Phoenix
is $50. At one point in this COMPARE
son, Mr.. Jones COMPOUNDED the Chicago
rate To- Phoenix with the Missouri river
rate and was corrected by Mr. Norton.
The witness said that rotwthstand-
ing commodity rates were supposed to
be more favorable than class rates,
there were instances in the Arizona
rates where they were higher.
Mr.. Jones was asked how the rates
to Fl Paso and Los Angeles were fixed.
He replied that he would prefer to let
the other side explain that.
He was Of the opinion that the mat
ter of density of traffic ought not to
be permitted to figure in the rate max
ing This statment was made IN the
course Of testimony regarding the NJ.
* p. rate
Mr. Jones illustrated the effect of
the rates on the industries Of the val
ley. The rate on tin plate. he said, had
a disastrous effect upon the canning
industry. the honey business and the
condensed milk business. He pointed
out that the tin plate rate to Phoenix
was S203, while to Los Angeles Il was
6s cents The same condition was true
as to glassware. In conclusion. Mr.
Jones said the effect Of the discrimi-
nation had been to interfere with the !
movement Of commodities with the re
suit that commercial development had |
been retarded and in manv instances !
had been prohibitive.
That was the end OF the direct testi- |
lllbllN "a MI juice Nl4p NclH AAA'u Tan
en- in hand b. W II. DurburrOw. as !
sistant attorney general for the South /
ern Pacific. Mr. Durburrow devoted /
himself to finding out how much Mr.. 1
Jones knew about the rate business /
and where he found 1t out. His ques- 4
tons did not go directly to the testi- 1
mOny which had been adduced. His 1
manner was aggressive and that Of .
Mr. Jones was not cordial. Some of /
the replies We're pungent and not en- /
tirely responsive.
Mr. DurburroW wanted to know how /
Phoenix compared with its condition 1
few years ago as to population and |
prosperity. Then he made similar tn
quiries as to comparative conditions
in Maricopa, the object evidently be
ing to bring out that Phoenix had pro-
gressed in spite Of the rates while
Maricopa had not materially advanced.
though favored b. a better rate.
He also questioned the witness about
the conference Of Ma of last year in
reply to which the witness reiterated
his statement of the morning.
The witness was then taken in hand
by Mr.. billiard, who asked him how the
FL Paso rate had been fixed. That
matter had been touched upon earlier
IN the day. Mr Jones replied that he
knew but that to tell would be a breach
Of confidence. as he had his informa-
ton from a high official Mr.. billiard
said that he would not press the ques-
ton. but he managed to bring out that
water competition had had something
to do with it.
Regarding the comparison made
earlier in the day by Mr.. Jones of the
local NJ. &. p. rate to Phoenix, and the
New Mexico and Arizona rate from
Benson to Nogales. Mr.. billiard asked
him il he was not aware that condi-
ton was due to water competition the
of NOgales to Guyamas on
the same line. The witness was not
sure that Phoenix could not claim the
effect Of water competition In CalifOr-
MIA.
The matter Of density of traffic and
It's effect on rate making was brought
up again rather adroitly by Hr billiard,
who ELECTED from the witness the be-
ief that the roads of Phoenix had done
Is much business as many other branch
ines with which comparison had been !
made earlier Mr. billiard then showed -