The Montgomery advertiser., 1909-03-24
Payne Continues His
 Explanation.
FLIED WITH MANY QUESTIONS
Floor Leader Becomes Highly h.
 disnant With Members.
The Placing of Hides on Free List Called Forth General Discus
 sion--Hide Trusts Are At- tackled.

Washington, March 23.-when the House met at II o'clock today, there was slim attendance of members. which led MT Macon, Arkansas, to suggest the absence of a quorum.
 As MT. Payne was to continue hIs explanation of the tariff bill, the Ar kansas member said he should be giv- en full hearing. The point was not pressed, however, and MT. Payne took the floor. No sooner had Mir. Payne begun than he was piled with ques- tions from all sides Again he was asked. this time by MT. Moore, Penn sylvania, if there would be an oppor- tunity to offer amendments to the bill of the House. "Or," MT. Moore added, must we look elsewhere" meaning the Senate.
 That" replied MT. Payne" is en- tirely in the judgment of the House and its control" All he was seeking to do he said. was to finish his speech and to him 1t seemed an impossible task.
 In his replies to questions. MT. Payne was decidedly more aggressive than nc was yesterday. He became highly indignant when Mir. Garrett, Tenn, in- fQuired if, taking the bill as a whole It was not revision upward"
 The gentleman has no right to say that" the Republican leader sharp ly announced. Tt Is not fair to say that as an honorable man."
 With good deal of emphasis, he declared that, as whole, the revision was downward, but as to luxuries, 1t was. he said, revision upward and ought to be. He said any intelligent man could understand by reading the bill. its general trend. and he charged that the idea of interpolating such a remark as that made by MT Garrett. was fnot fair to me, to the committee nor to the country"
 Disclaiming any improper motive, MT. Garrett said he wanted to know the real facts.
 You asked the question by way of suggestion" Mir Payne retorted, with some warmth, "and you meant to in- Bert that remark in the body of my ypeech."
 An instant later, Mir. Payne had a sharp colloquy with Mr. Garner. Tex as. who asked for an explanation re- garding free hides.
 T will get to .hides." said MT. Payne, hotly. T know 1t is a local issue with the gentleman" said he. and" he added with an unconscious pun. T know he will try to hide himself be- hand a revenue duty in order to meet the demands of those Democrats in his district who. are clamoring for duty on hides"
 The Democrats in my district" quickly retorted MT. Garner, "are also .plamoring for free leather, free harm ess and free shoes"
 Answered Many Queries.
 continuing his exclamation and an swerfng many queries Mr. Payne said the cut in the metal schedule would not destroy the tin plate industry In the United States.
 MT. Payne became somewhat irritat- ed when MT. Capron. R. l., interrupted his explanation of the file schedule The Rhode Island member asserted that MT. Payne was not stating the whole case and should not make 1t appear as if he was speaking as at- torney for the importers"
 MT. Moore, Pennsylvania, got into the discussion and answering him and MT. Capron. MT. Payne declared that the revision of the steel file schedule would not destroy that industry in the United States
 . And now I come to hides," MT. Payne said with a sigh of relief. He made a general attack on the so-called hide trust and said the "big four" packers controlled the hide industry in the United States. Do you think" interrupted MT. Reeder, Kansas, the big four would be generous enough to turn this tariff over to the consumers?
 "Oh," responded MT. Payne, "they would not turn anything over to any body unless obliged to-
 The result of placing hides on the free list. MT. Payne declared would be | to protect the independent tanners and | give work to the men employed by them"
 Ut wouldn't hurt anybody in the United States he said. except the | middle men and the packers"
 While MT. Payne was discussing this | schedule the members crowded the | aisles in front of the rostrum. Fre- | quentIy several questions would be put | by them at one time and there was | constant demand on his attention. His | good humor apparently, had returned | and he replied to each one in turn.
 When later hides were again the | topic of discussion. Mir. Garner asked | the Ways and Means chairman if he | thought the removal of the duties on hides was rendering the farmers a real benefit.
 T do," replied Mir. Payne with em- phasis.
 Tt Is good LnlnBp MT. Garner re- marked, that the gentleman does not have to run for Congress in some dis tricts I know of. because he would have a pretty hard time of it."
 To that observation. MT. Payne re- piled that farmers were honest, intel ligent and fair people and should be dealt with frankly.
 "Don't try to demagogue." he ex- claimed, "The more you demagogue The more you lose their respect, the more you will weaken your hold upon their attention"
 Duty on Lumber.
 MT. Payne declared in reply to question by MT. Langley of Kentucky, that he would oppose any raising of inc duty on lumber. but he added. "an amendment would be in order to put 1t on the free list"
 The Kentucky member indicated his intention to offer an amendment tn- creasing the duty to two dollars per thousand
 Coming to the schedules affecting wood pulp and paper. Mir. Payne said the committee in fixing the rates was guided largely by the special commit tee which investigated the subject during the last session.
 Discussing the proposed continuance of the reciprocity arrangement with Cuba, MT. Payne said in referring to the minority repot on the tariff bill, that all the commercial nations under stood the guardianship over Cuba by the United States and gave the infer ence that the charge of discrimination in favor of Cuba would not be heard