New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1909-08-25

10 deal with"
do you mean in regard 10 new laws?" was
asked What one-the corporation taxi"
"oh. there are lots OF them" Mr.. Hartman
said. Yes. the corporation tax. That's one;
and the state tax"
TOO MANY NEW LAWS.
1T is my opinion" he went to explain. that
every new law ought TO displaoe an old one
Every new law means more ofiiceholders. and
that means more expense for government
The railroads have won out in the West,
some interrupted
How do you mean?" Mr.. Hartman asked.
THE federal courts handed down a decision
to-day" he was told, Sustaining the Western
rates"
That's encouraging" he said
Then he went speak OF his own plans
Il have nothing my mind" he said. about
extra dividends or speculation. The only thing
am thinking about is the development OF the
properties now under charge. We want 10
take advantage Of the prosperity that is with us
and that has enabled 10 develop our properties
go quickly"
ARE you going build new lines?" he was
asked
I'VE have some lines 10 build in the irrigated
countries IN Idaho and oregon and in other
nlsoes that won't tell you about" Mr.. Harri-
man said "Our money is going into construc-
tion We are going build new lines and make
new acquisitions. We are going 20 build up the
territory tributary 20 our lines so far as can
command The new lines may not pay In my
time hut we are going 20 devote our time ana
attention 20 doing for our lines whatever We
think is for the best interests Of us all
Three years ago" continued MT Hartman
running away with the interview on ms own
r,es II had hard work 20 convince my associ-
a,es that Union Pacific could pay a 10 per cent
6,v,aend and Southern Pacific per cent was
accused Of being a Spectator, and mao nav
time Of it, I wish could wipe out those 'nree /
wears But have won ont southern t@'i'ie
ts now paying 6 per cent, and my loea j 'lo'
We much clinch these conditions ana MAKE ''o
stock absolutely safe and secure al Ohese i"''
NOT SPECTATORS NOW.
do YOU think the feeling against the ran
roads IN she West is improving he was asheu'
.sf think the public and the press appreciate
nouv that We are not SPECTATORS, MI. HAITI
man replied. 49,
Recurring 10 the question Of buying new lines
concerning which there have been many rurnors
reoentlv Mr. Hartman said; Il have noinlhB
especially in mind about the acquisition OF ne"
roads; and I wouldn't tell you If had he
added.
Then. going back TO the occurrences Of three
wears ago in which he seemed to take special
measure. Mr. Hartman said: I'VE builded bet
Ter than we knew, or, you might better say, We
huilded quicker than knew; quicker than /
knew, too though ] sure that il had 70
come Ny associates were hard 10 convince
There was a distinct air Of triumph and his eyes
CLEANED with brilliance as he added: But they
are convinced now"
Fx-Judge Lovett stood al the while at the
foot Of the couch and betrayed his anxiety lest
Mr. Hartman tax his strength too far Several
times II was all that he could do 10 restrain
himself and by this time the heat had become
so oppressive that Mr.. Lovett broke in with
suggestion that Mr. Hartman rest for time
and continue the interview later
''No" Mr. Hartman said, Il am all right.
There is nothing in my stomach and am feel
ing better"
Mrs. Hartman. also, stood at the foot Of the
couch. using a fan and betraying her anxiety.
Cant you tell Mrs. Hartman 10 into an
other part OF the car" Nh. Hartman said 10
Mr. Lovett 4 am all right, and there is moth
ing for her 10 worry about. She is exciting her
self needlessly."
Mrs. Hartman stepped through the doorway
where Mr.. Hartman could her, but she
was never out Of sound II her husbands voice
Miss Mary Hartman, who had lowered anx-
iousy about her father, Joined her mother and
Miss Carol Hartman, out Of sight, but not out
OF hearing.
EQUIPPING MEXICAN LINES.
Mr.. Hartman then took W the question Of
the cost Of eQupping the Mexican lines.
q don't think il viii cost much" he said
You remember that a short time ago we set
aside Sl0o00O00 for new equipment. This new
heavy equipment viii go on the old lines. while
the light equipment viii be sent 10 the new
lines ana viii be used on them until they have
grown I'D and need heavy equipment. That IS
the practice everywhere'
He was then asked about the rate question
that is agitating the Pacific Coast.
Don't ask me about rates" he said Il don't
know anything about rates We give the public
the best Of everything at the same price that
they have 10 pay elsewhere best traffic the
best equipment the best service. The public
gets from us what it pays for"
Let me sit up" Mr.. Hartman demanded
here.
1T is very hot, Mr. Hartman" Mr.. Lovett
suggested
Never mind that" Mr.. Hartman replied |
1T is not too hot for me. 1 very comforta-
BILE I can talk long they viii listen"
Mr.. Hartman was plainly buoyed up by the /
excitement OF the occasion. and ne insisted on |
sitting UP. But when he Was upright he had 4
20 sustain himself by bracing his hands In an /
effort 20 relieve him somewhat the talk was /
switched 10 his treatment on the other side 1
Mr.. Hartman at once responded with evident /
amusement.
SATISFIED WITH TRIP
Your photographers gave me a grea, recen-
ton here" he said, but got II worse on the
other side. They took three pounds of me there
with their cameras on one occasion"
did you enjoy your trip over?" he was asked
Yes he said. IT was foggy and bad on the
water But took my meals regularly until we
reached 'l7.s