The Washington times., 1909-03-22
DEBATE ON TARIFF
BEGUN ON FLOOR
Of HOUSE TODAY
Serene Payne Says United
States FayorS Protected
Industries.
FORMER MEASURES
HELD NOT SO GOOD
Speaker Says Mckinley Plan
Made Too Much Money.
Wilson Too Little.

With a full attendance Of members
and crow i galleries, the great tariff
de begun in the House today.
alive Payne Of New York,
the ways and Means Com
so # for the Republicans.
IN by Payne, the House de-
eet hereafter at IL o'clock
ng, which is an hour earlier
Payne then made q mo-
House resolve itself into a
f the whole for the consid-
le tariff bill. Speaker Can
ted Representative Olmsted
as the presiding officer of
tee. Olmsted recognized
as the latter arose to make
was generously applauded
bIican colleagues.
think II worth while" said
enter into an academic dis
e.s le tariff question
e, by great majority, favor
errte l American industries. Some
raa favor protection do not
aclal 1 the open and say they ia
F for revenue. I do not be-
.c~e any man within the sound
who now would say that we
c down every custom house
f~on ta 20 foundation stone
% Much Revenue.
Mckinley bill was passed
there was 20 much revenue. Congress
therefore took the duty off sugar and
placed a bounty OF cents a pound on
sugar produced in this country
In 1894 the Wilson bill was passed.
IT was like a kaleidoscope, protection in
l.
schedule well balanced. Revenue was
badly needed then, and so a 40 per cent
duty was placed on sugar, and the
bounty was repealed"
Payne said, in giving tribute 10 tie
OiDgley bill:
'It was the primal cause OF the Won
rierfsl growth of the Industries OF tho
pnite6 states that was the marvel OF
the world"
''The time has now come" said Payne.
when the country needs a protective
measure and revenue producer
Payne produced figures showing that
the entire revenue received by the Gov
ernment under the operation OF the
Dingley bill between July l, 1887 and
Slarch 16, 1903 was S6,55S, ,220,2s4, and that
The expenditures were Sc, ,zS3, 664.S56. These
figures, he said, did not include either
receipts or expenditures Of the Post
off1ce Department. II the postal def
tcit be eliminated, there would be a sur
plus Of S74,555,40S, beside 600 which
had been spent on the Panama Canal
Cause of Postoffice Deficit.
Payne declared that the large posta
deficit had resulted from an increase in
the rural free-delivery service.
1T is true that the Dingley bill has
not produced a surplus every year oi
its existence" said Payne, "but we
did not anticipate the expenses Of the
Spanish war when the Dingley bill was
passed. The Spanish war brought IN.
creased responsibilities, and with them
increased burdens. IL brought increased
expenditures for the navy, which seems
% be about the most popular thing
among the people Of the United States
increased expenditures Tor the army
ana increased pension list
The grand total Of the Dingley bill
5s that IL has produced a surplus Of S25
CO., Il we exclude the postal deficit
while at the same time it has provided
protection for American industries"
Defends Sliding Scale.
Payne then discussed the reciprocit!
clause OF the Wilson and Dingley bills
and declared that modern conditions
demand a maximum and minimum
tariff Under a trade agreement III
said, this nation had been able 10 OBJ
tain good rates from other nations 70
its produce and imports, but now tht
balance OF trade is against the Unite,
States.
said Payne, "Other nations have beer
adopting the maximum and minimum
tariffs. Then came the tug-Of-War
We saw our rivals among nations get
ting the trade Of the world. This ha.
gone on until Il has become almost in
fContfnued on Eleventh Pagel