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The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
ADDITIONAL CITY BRIEFS.
TWO Bta Men.

TWO Big Men.
At The Halliday are two I the big
gest men who have come to Cairo II
many moons. one is Charles DUNLAP
Of Humboldt Tenn, who measures
feet, 71s inches in height and weighs
245 pounds. The ether Is II. y. Web
ster who is feet inches tall and
weighs 500 pounds Both are tragel
ing sale smen. They have to stpop 70
get int the elevator door but both
walk with erect shoulders and tower
above the men who usually are con
sidered tall.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Fraud in Sales.--future q purchaser
is induced to enter into a contract OF
purchase by fraudulent repre- senta
ton that combination Or trust Is
about to be formed for the purpose
cf controlling tho sale a. articles %
the nature of these purchased. and
that such trust will increase the IRE
Of such articles after given time,
this IS sufficient - prevent a recovery
fr the purchasers refusal u take
the articles contracted tor according
to The decision Of the Pennsylvania
supreme court 10 STANDARD Interlock
Elevator Company vs.. Wilson, az At
lantic Reporter 1913.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

The Argus showed its familiar face
again yesterday. Capt. Potter is as
bright as ever he was and a good
match for Col Small and Rev. Bass
1T whom he directs his criticisms and
denunciations. The arguments the
Capt. Presents against Prohibition
such as they are. will be sure to I'M
press those who are against Prohiti-
ton, just as those which Col. Small
and Rev. Bass present for Prohibition
will be sure to impress those who are
for 1t. But enc may be permitted to
question. without disrespect to either
of these gentlemenS. whether or not
such arguments viii make converts
from among the conservative think
ing citizens. upon whom, more than
.ikely. the decision OF this important
subject will depend on April 81.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
MAN FATALLY WOUNDED
When Robbers Hold Up Chicago
Sa!oon-Shot While Trying
to Flee From Scene.

Chicago. Feb Edward J..
Reilly. mail clsrk. was shot and
aortaIly wounded tonight by one OF
two masked robbers who held up &
saloon at 2S00 Union avenue. The
robbers drove fifteen men In the place
into q rear room and Reilly attmpted
t0 escape by a side door. the shot
being fred as he reached the throsh-
hold. Tho police pursued the heeing
totbers. who however. escaped.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

committed ON ground acquired by tho
United States, and oeded TO II by the
state cl Georgia f,r the purpose of n
federal building, was within the OK
elusive jurisdiction Of the United
States courts. He he'd that the state
has authority to cede the ground TO
the United States, and whore it does
$ the only power which caa exercls
jurisdiction over such territory to
paash csimas committed thereon ~
the United states, even though the
state has retained the right to exer
else IT'S process ON the territory cod
ad.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
mARcH ., IN HISTORY.

17i1--FIrst. issue of the Spectator an
peared in London.
1ses-FredoT5c Francois Chopin. com
poser. born Died Oct II. 1889
sss4-The 80; resolutions. passed a
Quebec
1sts-Twe steamships collided on tn
Mississippi and eighty live
were lost.
ass President signed the bin for th'
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Well, the Illinois Central Company
again put in a few good ticks for Cairo
last week. 1t doesn't do all it might
do for us in a business way but it
inmns in promptly and helps out
when there's need Certainly II i
helping itself while IL :slg SO, but that
can be said respecting all others who
work on such occasions, and their
work is not for that reason the less
valuable to the community.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Democratic boss rule il responsible
fcr Republican United States Sen.
ator from Kentucky, II Republican
voters were half as determined In
their protests against boss rule as
Democrats are, there would soon BE-
an end to boss rule
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
CIRCULATION STATEMENT

Average number 81 complete ana
perfect copies Of the Cairo bni'
letIn printed daily and sunday
during the year lSo7...'..''''S''0
Average number OF complete ana
perfect copies Of the Cairo B'il-
letiu printed daily and sunday
anring the month Of January,
1907 .............,',.'. @o''
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

1867 Nebraska admitted 10 the I'm
ion
1870 President Lopez ~ Paraguay
killed in battle.
1Ss, -Chiui and Peru concluded peace
la00-Lord r berts end the British
forces entered Kimberley.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
January Circulation.

III. .-V-t
The above Is a correct statement OF
the number of copies Of the Cairo
Bulletin printed daily and Sunday
during the month OF January 1908 and
the year 1907.
CLYDE SULLIVAN,
Business Manager.
Subscribed and sworn to before me
this fourth day Of February, 1908.
LEO J. KLEB,
fSeaI Notary Public.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Whatever leaders in
Industrial disturbances,
whether they belong to
the ranks Of capital or Ia
Dor, may think aboat
their own usefulness, the
American public is quite
weary of wars and the
rumors of wars, and de-
sires nothing so much as
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01


Poison and don't know il.
II You have aches and pains In the
bones. back or joints. Itching. Scabby
skin, blood feels hot or thin; Sw"i
Glands. Rising and Bumps g. . =
skin, Sore Throat or Mouth. fh,lns
hair, pimples or offensive eripuors,
Cancerous Sores. Jumps or Sores On
Lips, Face or any part of the bo''
Rash on Skin, are run down or r"
vous, Ulcers on any part Of the 81.
.Carbuncles or hollis, TAKE Botanic
Blood Balm, (8. 3. b. Guaranteed
to cure even the worst and most dee2
seated cases. b. H. b. drives al po'
onous matter from the system an
sends a food of pure, rich blood dt
rect to the skin surface. In this waT
Aches and Pains are stopped all Erup
tons. Sores, Pimples, even cancer ara
quickly healed and cured.
BOTANIC BLOOD BALM. r. q. 81
COMPOSED Of pure Botanic ingredients.
DRUGGISTS. 81. Sold in Cairo, H..
BY w. r Simon. 1901 Washington Ave.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Criminal LAWN United states "
Battle. 154 Federal Reporter $40
Judge Speer. Of the United states cir
cult court. Western District OF Georgia
Southern Division. held that c-im
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Ths BuiIstIn 10 On sale % ths fol-
isWIna places:
Coiennan's, 2fS Eighth street.
halliday Houss News STAINS.
Walkers. f01 Sixth street.
1ivs rrous Restaurant.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
~ -
llll1at JH tl1r Gl1altrr Mt
Giutl prnsinn Systrin?
By WILLIAM w. VAUGHAN,


ERE why something practical should not be done
at once help the employees the hand assured
support in their old age and to enable the government the
other to offer inducements which will attract the highest
grade of service.
One bugbear to begin with, has been got out Of way
1t long claimed that selecting public servants 81 their
real merits and keeping them in Office during good behavior
would result in finally filing the service with force of
poyes too old 10 do the work But the merit has
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
Be Strong IN sunnort.

In giving your support TO aay aita
and measure be not half-heartel. lr.t
you hurt what you wish TO help.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
Monarch Was Not Fastidicus.

Frederick the Great made a salts
factory meal on salt beef 0. pork aa.l
cabbage.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

remedies. See that your druggist gives
you Alpen Seal and not an inferior
substitute.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

4 don't IKE Jissby He s always
in.aing people down. - baltimore
American
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
OFFICIAL DIRECTORY.
Cairo, Alexander county, b,c.
oopn,xsion ts.fJ,

Cairo, Alexander coSnr,, Mc.
oopu,ssion ts.iT.
nAyo, GEORGE pARsONs
Clerk K. A. HATCHER.
Treasurer, THOMAS ". MAf"N'.
Guy Attorney, r. NJ. MOORE
Comptroller. ERNEST NOki'~ ~.
Police Magistrate, A. J. Ross
Chief OF Police. NJ. 9. BAGAN.
Alexander County, Population sss''
County Clerk. JESSE u. Mf!A.Rt
Circuit Clerk, LEE u. DAVIS.
Sheriff. FRANK ". DAVIS
States Attorney, ALExhNnSA
WILSON.
Coroner, DR.. JAMES McAAr' \
County superintendent Of s"o'nf.
PROF. JOIN SNYDER
Assessor snd Treasurer, gxSii n
NElLI8
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

been force certain departments for good Of gneraton and
investigations have shown that the npeannuaton not greater
system effect What the actual
percentage approximation surprisingly small The elixir of life
served in the government departments and many die in Office
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Moreover find from actual investigation in Washington that the
difficulty good employee long, but that he
the abest from the inducements
private employment and the improvement Of material which has
resulted from has made the number taken
of the offices by private employers greater than before
Therefore having shut the incompetent the to make the
competent satisfied BY inducement short Of dangerous
eral pension scheme.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01
REPORT OF THE CONDITION OF
TIT
Alexander County National
Bank

at Cairo 10 the state Of Illinois. at The close OF
business. February II, 1905.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01

Bcsro cf County ComrnIss'"n-'~
J. ,. JEyNELLE, CkairmAs
GEORGE PARSONS.
Or. EDWIN J. QATTSM.
The Cairo bulletin. (Cairo, Ill.) 1???-1928, 1908-03-01


Several plans the public with this One originate
with the letter department. provides that percentage Of the
held back aud the government itself keep the funds and
the Another plan substitutes private life insurance
annuity companies for the government and makes the taking of these
policies compulsory the empoe Many variations Of this scheme
possible them in actual this Germany
The subject receiving attention. and it almost certain that
plan will eventually be worked which the public will feel itself
safe in trying
But quite strong pension system would be
increase in the certainty tenure especially the higher positions 1T
which has brought pass that the higher the positions
greater ability required and the greater consequently the
difficulty finding qualified TO ill them just much the more are
positions regarded political prizes depending the endless shift
let public be Of proper sal
aries and permancncy of tenure Of
great ndunnt good will have been at secured
that work system for protecting the
comparatively nnGaaf f'" men VINO are '4ay super z0zE
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25

When she did not return to her,
home by 10 o'clock her parents be-
came uneasy and started an inquiry.
AS she was not found at the homes
OF any OF her; friends, her father and
brother went down to the river bank
and continued the search. Near tn.
Fourth ward planning mill was found
her coat with a note tucked in one
pocket, asking the finder to return
the garment to her home on Beech
urst avenue. The neighborhoodl was
then aroused and more thorough
search instituted. Soon some hooks
were obtained and the .searchers be.
gan dragging the river. IL <
The dragging was kept up all day
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and
Friday. but the searchers could not
locate the body. Z.
Tuesday morning another note, ev.
identity partially written and then
thrown away, was found on the back
porch OF the Lambiotte home. When
the several pieces OF paper were gath
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25

cred up and put together half COM
pleted sentence, you will find my
body along was found.
When the senrchers had not sue
ceeded in finding the body by Wednes.
day morning. word was sent to j. "A.
Lands, Of Fairmont. asking him to
bring his bloodhounds down for that
afternoon. II.
The dogs arrived here on the 1920
train from Fatrmont and were at
once taken to the girls home where
the dogs picked up the scent In Miss
Lambiott's own ROOM, After several
attempts the dogs traced the trail to
the outside of the house. With j
crowd Of nearly 500 people following
the dogs led their. owner out Beech
urst, up Fourth street to McLane ave.
nue. by the school house. back down
to Beechurst. up Beechurst to TIL,
Central heating plant Of the univer.
sity, then down the railroad track
and on down to the lumber yard OF
the Fourth ward planning mill. The
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25
An nthusiastfc Customer

It'd her grocer that II he refused to
handle ''OUR.PIE" Preparation she
would trade elsewhere: She knew she
could make. Lemon. Chocolate and
Custard pies better than the expert
cook II she used "oUR.PIE" as all the
ingredients, carefully prepared, are; in
the package ready for immediate use
Each package, enough for two large
pies. 10 cents. Order a dozen to-day
from your grocer. Excellent also as q
pudding sauce. cake filling. etc.
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25
|E|IIl[ll|EI
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Bone Palms, itching Seahhy Skin Dill
~ ~ eases. j! n RI HI
Permanently cured ny taking Botani,,
Blood Balm. Blood poison Is the wors;
diseases pm earth. yet. easily curet
By taking Botanic Blood Balm. Il
you have aches and pains In bones
back md Joints, itching. scabby skin
blood feels hot or thin; swollen glands.
rislngs and bumps on the skin. sort
throat or mouth. falling hair. pimplei
or offensive eruptions, or sh on skin:
are run down or nervous, ulcers or
any part OF the body, carbuncles sof
bolls, TAKE BOTANIC BLOOD BALM
|tB.& q. b. GUARANTEED to cure ev.
en- the worst ana most deepLseats4
cases. B. B. B. acts directly on tn.
poisons in the blood. driving all pois:
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sending flood OF pure. rich blood al.
rectly to the skin surface. In thi,
I way soress eruptions and pimples an
quickly healed and cured. completely
changing the entire body into a clean,
healthy condition. B. b. q. has dome
This for thousands OF cases. SO b. B.
8. will certainly cure you. For rheu.
naitsm. aching shoulders, hawkins
ind splitting blurred eyesight, catarrh.
cancer, and all evidences OF impure
blood. take Botanic Blood Balm Y Il
stops all aches and pains. cures rheu
matlsm or catarrh. heals every sors
md makes sthe blood pure and rich. &
BOTANIC BLOOD BALM, "a. .. b.
is pleasant and safe to take; composed
OF pure Botanic Ingredients. It ia dit.
terent from any other blood purifier.
because B. q. B. cures where all else
falls. SAMPLE SENT FREE by writ
Ing Blood Balm Co, Atlanta. Ga. SOLD
By DRUGGISTS. 81 PER LARGE
BOTTLE. Sold in Fairmont, W. Va
BY Mountain City Drug Coz Main 81
Call or write. Remedy sent By 81
preas. 4
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25
BODY||IE |! vi
NO LONGER Any DouHTABouT
pEATf3S on itss At1 eloTIE
or oHGAhTlpISgts Ss Il N "

doRGANTo Own May sc Covered
With thtcis yellow mud the body Of
MIA Jeanne 14amhi otta was found.
fioatIng tn ief afonong ahela river near.
ssitar Gity. three miles below Morgan,
! town. a fe, mi mute s after O 80 satur-
ayaeyaning. The greWsome Iiscovt
efys vas made gby 4 q. q. stansberrx
who sxas rowing on the opposite side
91f the river near the tipple OF the
s,ireatl scott Coal Company. q
i When first saw he body STAINS
befry allied FL out 1 to Lewis Il emley.
1 who was sitting on the bank OF the
riyerSf shing. Ing that he Ind found
flcater II emley stgg ested that the
snihn I'M tie boat bring the body ashore.
but 5tansb sherry refused to do so say
ling that he didn't want TO touch n
4 dead body. Iiemley then went out to
the bod AM, after attaching a skiff
chain 10 the girls right wrist, towel
The bod WI to- the Unknown landing, a
Short distance below.
Coroner Called,
Immed lately upon the finding Of the
body q smessngefto this effect was sent
Justice IA. D. II Boughner, who Is
actlng as coronero Of Monongalla coun-
XXX Mr. Bonghner secured n hack
and made the trip to Jimtown. Upon
Ills arrival there a. message was sen.
1 back to sUndertakers Jenkins G Brown
asking that the ambulance be sent
i forsSs the remains. The wagon left
here ats g o'clock, returning shortly
after 40 o'clock with the body. While
the body was 81 being taken into the
Iunde rtaking rooms on Pleasants
street 20 crowd \ of y several hundred
people therinE around, having been
ATTRACTED by the news OF the dlscov,
4 cry OF the body. All OF the members
ssof the nigh force as well as the at.
taches OF the nlertakIng firm were
sfequiredf to keep the crowds of curl
Gus Sbac l.
Ju ~ Selected.
Under the direction of Justice
sBoughner, officer Marcel Mayor Sc.
1scted Ea coroner's Jury! OF six men.
The men on the jury are: H. w. sunl.
INA chez, G. Moore, Carl Dubois,
John G q Lantz. wv. L. Pallum and G.
Turner. The jurors viewed the
bod the 81 undertaking rooms and
were dismissed fort the night, Coroner
Ss:Bsoagh Inner setting the hearing for
sunda yfmorning at o o'clock.
Body in Bad Con dition.
Having been in the water nearly
i go hours the body was swellcd to
& abnormal size. The head, especially,
showed the Y g feet of the water. all
& the pores being filled, The skin on
ssher face seemed TO be liscolored. the
effect "a being due to the coating OF
mud over her features. ,After the
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25

dogs then doubled back up the river
to the point where. the coat was founl.
and then on mp to point above the
Union Stopper factory. From there
the trail doubled back again. the dogs
tracing it down to the rivers edge
where the gas line crosses under tn,
Monongahela by the w. r. Jones glass
factory. This point Is alulos: a quar-
ter of mile, below the point where
the coat was found. ~
The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) 1904-1914, 1908-05-25


r mud ri einossa ffaee appeaf
Jsst arnc as anil
and wrist here he sidf II cha mi was
attashed re ciiain; die
arm iloosenel the mud ilcl WAS
WISHED on sby the water, leaving sherf
arm white and the d esha sol
her hair were entangled !ts pieces Sotl
wire. leaves and small ssti cks. which
were caush mp by the hair " lille the
body was on the bottom Of the river.
s. TWO Gold Teeth: a
The body was identified by means
OF two gold teeth. Both teeth we're
partially filed. The shoes she wore
were also used as n lneans OF identi-
acation, the heels having been re.
moved, the patent leather. low heeiefi
shoes being changed into slippers. A
small gold headed pin was found lin
her shirt waist She wore the cloth
Ing she was nttirel in. on tn 9 night OF
her departure from the house.
Funeral at Point Marion. ~
The body! will be taken to Point
Marion, where the funeral will be
held J; on the ago train this after
noon. The girls uncle. Joseph May
er, who was drowned in Cheat river
last summer. is inferred in the Point
Marion cemetery. The girls father.
brother and other relatives will nt-
tend the funeral together with many
friends. Her mothers condition is
such that she cannot attend.
The girls father and brother were
informed OF tho finding OF the body
Saturday night, but her mother will
not be informed until Sunday after
noon. Mrs. Lamblotte rested well
Saturday, although her condition is
still very serious. She was out Of
her mind but a short time during the
day. her mental faculties seeming to
grow stronger. SFq
Still Mystery.
Although the body has been found
there Is still mystery in the case.
No one seems to know why she
should have committed suicide. All
OF her friends assert that in their
opinion she would be the last person
in the world to do such a thing.
One theory Is that the girl and her
mother quarreled on the day Of Je-
anne's' disappearance. Monday, AMI
that she committed suicide as re-
suit. This idea is secuted by those
living close by, who say that the
mother and daughter never spoke
harshly to each other 1t may be
that Mrs. Lambiotte can shed some
light on this point after she has fully,
recovered her senses.
History Of the Case.
Miss Lambiotte left her home at .
O'Clock Monday night. She was at
tired in wrapper, shirt waist. an
old pair OF shoes made over into
slippers, and carried her coat. Before
she left her home she said that she
was on her way to visit the Misses
Brown. friends of hers. AS she pass
Ell the Brown home she was called to
by Mrs. Brown who asked If she was
not going to stop. She replied that
she did not have time and hurried
on.
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1908-03-18

extremely elegant, and the
very dressy French voiles.
From fabric to finish
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1908-03-18
VESTA.

Miss Walrod of New Avon visited
friends over Saturday.
S. F. Scott and wife drove to Mil
roy one day last week.
Mr.. vine Of Seaforth called on
Mr.. Eeltz at the hospital Friday.
Ladies' aid society will meet with
Mr.. 7. E. Fawcett Thursday after
noon
Rev. Geo. Gilcrist of Marshall oc-
cupied the Presbyterian pulpit Sum
day morning.
Mrs. F. II. Rawlings and children
of Milroy are guests OF the Z. Fl.
Frazier home.
M. ]. Johnson and wife of Milroy
were guests at the J. H. Frazier
home over Sunday.
A large number of teachers at
tended the teachers meeting held
at this place Saturday.
Mrs. Nelson of Redwood Falls I'M
derwent an operation at the Vesta
hospital last Tuesday.
Ed. Pierson and bride arrived Sat-
urday afternoon and will occupy the
house recently owned by Mr. Briske
Mrs. r. w. Lee returned from
Minneapolis last week, having pur-
chased her spring stock of millinery
goods.
Misses Alice Day of North Dakota
and Belle Gibbs Of Belview were
visiting friends in town several days
of last week.
w. Howle, field secretary of the
/ Y. P. S. C. E.. spoke in the Presby-
terian church Sunday evening. Mr..
Howle is a very interesting speaker.
Mrs. J. j. Schlekau, wife of the
station agent at Clements underwent
an operation at the Vesta hospital
last TUESDAY. Although her condi-
ton was very serious, she is getting
along nicely.
/ Vesta ......C G. H. Saucerman, Pres
Il Council ...... II. Greenwald. n. r.
Larson, w. j. Barber
Recorder. .......-A. p Lemke
Treasurer. ....... f. A. BendiX
Assessor ...,......S. ;. Byram
Constables ...... r. W. Lee. Ray Barber
The Redwood gazette. [volume] (Redwood Falls, Minn.) 1873-1940, 1908-03-18
Special
for
THIS WEEK
Long Silk Glove
Sale

We have just received a lot of
ladies long silk gloves that we
will put on special sale for this
week. These are priced so low
that it will pay you to purchase
your supply of silk gloves now.
There will be another scarcity of
long gloves and we advise you to
cover your wants now while we
have the supply in stock.
Is button length silk gloves,
very heavy silk. double finger
tips, in navy blue, light blue, va
rious shades of brown. the new
tans, white and black, a S1.75
glove for this week
only per pair Dl.@O
16 button length silk glove, has
double finger tips, an elegant
quality of silk. These come in
! black and white only, an excep-
tionallv good value, for 90
this week only per pair 1Oc
II button length silk glove. dou-
bic finger tips, just as good as the
| above only shorter length. We
offer about 10 dozen this week in
black and white only at 90
per pair OCc
16 button length Isle glove in
black and white, an elegant fin
iished glove and one that at last
lyear' ssprices would sell at 81 25
a pair. 7 We offer this week about
5 Dozen pairs at per pair ~
only roc
I