Omaha daily bee., 1908-12-22

a special session OF congress for the pur-
pose of eNacting a tariff bill and we must
repair a bill for II to pass on We have
no time to send experts TO Europe. What !
want TO know IL what authority aside
from testimony given by you and Judge
Gary, who / don't think went as far as you
do, have for taking the duty off OF steel"
Mr.. Carnegie pointed out that there Is
practically no ~foreign-made steel imported
into this country.
do you know Of any combination TO fix
the price of tin plate Internationally
asked Mr.. Hin.
NO."
do you know Of any combination to
fix the price Of wire nails7"
mo" Mr.. Carnegie replied. II am not so
positive about the existence Of a combina-
tion to fix the price Of steel rails. In fact,
1 am without knowledge OF any combins-
ton of any kind"
Labor Costs Less Here.
Mr.. Carnegie told the committee II must
not base Its conclusions on the comparison
of the cost of labor in this country and
abroad as furnished them by witnesses. "If
1t takes two men in Great Britain 10 turn
out as much steel as 1t takes one man here
with our modern appliances, the difference
WOuAu Nv bb ~ EItdNt was his hTkuTlenI.
THE cost of producing rails at Gary won't
be half as much as in England, notwith-
standing the cheaper cost of labor abroad"
Representative Gaines was DESTROYS Of OBJ
tanning Mr.. Carnegie's views as to the needs
for the tariff for the small manufacturer
of steel. Mr.. Carnegie explained that there
were no small manufacturer OF steel
products, but Mr.. Gaines persisted that
thera wora email manufacturers w,ho u,oI,a
some special articles from steel.
II don't know any small manufactures
who makes just one article Of steel and
I woul not regard him. 1 would think he
had not managed well,' said Mr.. Carnegie.
Mr.. Gaines wanted to know IL It was not
possible for a man to go into the steel bust
ness to manufacture a speciality, or II II
would not be II there was no tariff to
protect him.
There is always room for the enterpris-
ing man to make a specially, and besides,
he gets a high price for his article" was
Mr.. Carnegie's The man who
would go into the general steel business
without the proper capital is a man you
need not concern yourself about. Things
that are used by the thousands cannot be
made now except on a large scale.'
Mr.. Carnegie further admitted that the
time for the smaller manufacturer of steel
is past, except for the man making a
special article.
CrOsier Takes Opposite View.
Mr.. Carnegie concluded his testimony
shortly before s o'clock and wal about ia
leave when Alfred o. Crosier of Whining
ton, Del, asked permission to be heard. He
also asked Mr.. Carnegie to remain and hear
his remarks. explaining hat they would be
in the nature of a criticism of the former
steel kings views on the tariff. Mr.. Car.
negie took a seat with the evident purpose
Of listening to Mr.. Crosier, but the latter
had net proceeded far when Mr.. Carnegie
arose and said that he had been before the
committee all day and that It was pretty
tiresome. He begged to be excused. but
said that he would like to get a copy Of
Mr.. Crosier's remarks after they are
printed.
II shall read It with pleasure he said
''and IL the gentleman criticises me I shall
say: What a pity that man does not know
better and If he is with me 1 shall prob.
ably say what a wise young man he is"
With a few parting words of regret be.
cause he could not stay Mr.. Carnegie took
his departure. s
Mr.. Crosier addressed his remarks prin'
cipally to the magazine article recently pub.
lished over Mr.. Carnegie's name. which ht
said dealt a severe blow to the entire pro.
~tective system. He said that Mr.. Carnegt
has kindled wide doubt as to the wisdom
necessity and value of protection. Mr.. Gro
sier claimed that Mr.. Carnegie's proposi,
ton to take the duty off OF steel would
have the effect Of leaving the United States
Steel corporation forever in undisputed pos.
session of the American field.