New-York tribune., 1908-05-02
MR.. JEROME REPEATS IT
COMMENT ON THE BENCH.
Calls Justice Seabury's Action q
Most Indecent Exhibition.

Most Indecent Exhibition.
IT,. .,,,ar,,,s of the Jerome charges before Com
missioner Hand moved so rapidly yesterday tha'
Franklin Pierce counsel for the King committees.
which preferred the charges against the Dis"i ~
Attorney. said that he thought he couid nave ms
case all in within another day.
Mr. Jerome's testimony TO his reported scan
dalous remarks, about justices of the supreme
Court formed the most interesting feature Oh tne
hearing yesterday. These alleged "scahoaious re-
marks" constitute the fifteenth charge against hll'
Il reiterate" said the District Attorney IN reply
20 ouestions las the result of my mature juos-
nent that Justice Seaburys dhen Judse) con-
duct Of The so-caled jury fixing case was the most
Indecent exhibition have ever seen IN court Oh
law in my life, and ! have seen some pretty tough
ones
Mr. Jerome also paid his respects TO Judge
Rosalsky, but refnsed TO say whether or not ne
had said al a dinner of the City Club that he mad
no reverence not everyday common respect
for the justices Of the Supreme Court, lst Depart
rnent
Shortly after adjournment for luncheon the Dis
trict Attorney caused another sensation by chars-
ing the King committee with engineering BLACK
mailing expedition" against the Metropolitan Street
Railway Company. The men, he
claimed that employ Mr.. Pierce TO present these
charges against me employ Eugene kremer TO
prosecute suits against the Metropolitan Street
Railway Company, known the We'll and Weller
quits Those suits simply fishing expedition
against me. / shall so further. declare those
cases a. a Matchmaking expedition
Mr.. Jerome made these remarks in reply to Mr..
Pierce's request that certain minutes of certain
grand :ures dealing with traction matters be pro-
duced However he finally consented TO try to get
a court order for their production the condition
that they should be used in the We'll and
Weller cases.
Mr.. Pierce had three members of the January.
1905 grand iury on hand TO testify. This the
grand jury that investigated insurance affairs and
he counted much their testimony to prove that
Mr Jerome had pleaded against indictments" "
He was destined TO a bitter disappointment. Lucian
NJ Stanton, the first grand juror put on the stand,
testified that Mr. Jerome had advised the jurors,
both in and outsof the grand jury room, TO ''use
their Judgment in the matter Of finding not find
ing indictments.
Why don't you call more grand jurors, Mr..
Pierce-you have more under subpoena in the
room?" asked Mr.. Jerome. But Mr.. Pierce had had
enough Of their testimony and promptly dismissed
the lot
The District Attorney seemed thoroughly to en-
JOY himself again yesterday.
When the hearing started Mr. Pierce, after some
discussion put IN evidence the minutes Of the spe-
cial grand jury which recently investigated the
METROPOLITAN Street Railway Company. Henry W.
Brown former controller Of the New York City
Railway Company. then called to the stand TO
testify in regard sale Of 10000 face value
ten-year debenture notes OF the New York City
Railway Company TO the Metropolitan Street Rail
1Vav COMPANY for 20 per cent of their face value.
asked this witness. and his objections were sus-
tanned.
Herbert r. Linnberg then recalled. He said
that he had told Mr.. jerome that in his opinion
.be carving of &.5O00o assets on the books OF
the New York City Railway Company i'm
rroper and that Mr. Jerome replied he did not
agree in that view. The item referred to was the
discount or that TO be suffered by the
New York City Railway Company through issuing
$1,000 900 ten-year per cent debentures at 0 and
forms basis of the eleventh charge
The fifteenth charge had TO do with Mr.. Jerome's
criticisms Of the judiciary After his statement in
regard TO Justice seabury. the testimony ran:
Odd you at the City Club dinner in Novern
ber 1906 say Il have no reverence & or even reSPec s
Djvision9'9 A.-The respondent requests that he
be allowed TO answer the question but as counse S
for the respondent / am Obliged TO anyise nm
not TO. and enter objection on the ground thai
the function question a social one and
Furthermore took place during my first term OF
oEDid you say. NO opinion of Judge Rosalsky
would he sufficient to make me do s snything A.
said that the opinion OF JUDGES aa nqu hesessI. t
should be considered, and that II Judge Rosalskl
entered an order I would take 1t under consdera
tion.
Mr. Pierce asked Mr. Jerome If he would admi
what Judge Rosalsky had said in regard TO GER
tain matter
I'm not admitting anything Judge Rosalsk!
says until have TO-" said Mr.. Jerome
THAT is a typical remark" retorted Mr.. Pierce.
We'll, a man appearing in his own defenc
sometimes finds il quite important to make
typical remark" interpollated Commissions
Hand, smiling
After much discussion it was finally agreec
. that Mr.. Jerome would ask for court order Il
N enable him to get certain grand jury minutes oil
the condition that they would be turned t.
the commissioner for his inspection but no
be made public
Mr.. Pierce said that he would take UP the ic
trust Monday.