Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-02-12
CHALLENGE CLIP
Will Be RELIC
Upton Will Not Try For
America Cup
Again

Sir Thomas Lipton's cable to the
New York World that he could not
challenge again for the Americas
Cup under the old conditions was a
matter of little moment to many. But
IL really means that the famous old
"mug'-the greatest of all sporting
trophies to remain uncontested
for. 1t seems doomed to become n
relic.
The expressed inability of Sir
Thomas to challenge under the rules
governing races for the cup was an
admission that no yacht designer of
note in the British domains will I'M
dertake to compete with Capt. Nat.
Herreshon. And Sir Thomas empha-
sized that point by adding that the
size of competing yachts was no OBJ
iect to him. lie would order 90
footer as quickly as anything else,
but no one will build one.
That sounds like an overdrawn
statement, but one must take into
consideration the fact that when Il
designer draws the lines of an Amer
ica's Cup boat he puts his all - his
foremost skill and his reputation -
into the model. William Fife, 1t will
be remembered. created the first
Shamrock for Sir Thomas, and the
Columbia beat her by ten minutes
and eight seconds in the first race or
more than twenty seconds mile. In
the second race the Shamrock lost
her topmast and withdrew. In the
third race the, Columbia won by siS
minutes and thfrty-four seconds.
The late George l.. Watson wal
then called upon to design the Sham
rock IT,, and .nTdpWAmerican yachts
men today believe she was better
boat than the Columbia. On one oc
casion the Upton boat finished two
seconds ahead, hut lost the race, al
she had to allow the Columbia forty
three seconds. Ia
Shamrock III. Settled Question
Fife then took up the work again
this time modelling the Shamrocl
| III. Her career, which wound up OF
Sept 3, 1908, with the Reliance dis
! tancing her in Il l5-mile thrash L
windward and return, settled tn,
| question In the minds of British de
| signers MS to whether yacht bull
with 9O-foOt water line and no 9th
\ cr restrictions could be sent owe
slstently refused to design anothc
such boat. Alfred Mylus, who ha,
! been successful in British water
with smaller boats, was talked of a
one who might attempt to turn on
! u victorious craft, but he soon tool
! The same view Fife did. Both, how
| Crcr, were and are still willing to lie
} Sign boats under the present Ameri
! can or the European measurements
There was some doubt as to whe
Their Fife would accept any kind o
an order again from Sir Thomas, bu
| he now has under construction
small yacht for him to race.
Sir Thomas was first reported to b.
I considering asking the New Yorl
4 Yacht Club again If they woul,
! change the Cup rules, and that h
/ should persist in talking about chal
/ longing under new conditions cause,
surprise among those yachtsmen VIII,
) heard of the statement attributed /,
him. 1t kindled feeling in certain
quarters that he is trying to beneii
in pocket by keeping his name linke,
with the trophy. Sir Thomas wei
knows under what conditions he cal
arrange a race, as he forced the New
+ York Yacht Club to make those con
ditions and they We're sent to him.
New Rules Talk Kept Up
Even long before the Shamrock III
was beaten by the Reliance 81
! Thomas talked about new rules L
govern the contests and has kept
up. When he sent challenge las
fall for race with a GS-foOter unde
NV Pi'oVhb hiN"SuiNhh'hN lulti III
New York Yacht Club decided to set
tie once for all the question of condi
tions. The new rule had been foun
wanting, and as custodian of tn
greatest international cup the clu
did not deem it advisable to appl
the rule to races for that prize. Fun
thermore, 1t was the general opinio
that the cup was worth building 90
tOOters to race far.
At meeting of the club called 70
the purpose it was voted that CON
netting yachts shall be 9O-footers--i
nLher WORDS. the fnsieSl hnnIS. nlnet