New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1908-11-19


said sharply, "Cut that outiT Then ne apollo
gized to Mr. Ferris saying he did not intend %
| usurp the functions of the referee. Then came
the inquiry regarding the South Improvement
Company.
o. suppose you have heard of the South I'M
QSWhat if anything had you or your associates
in the STANDARD on Company iEr Of t 3nio we e0 took
small interest in the shares OF that company N.Y. We
had | might say nothing at least V 1syytaing to
It. as Wei refer it to Nj F1sser brother WI,
our friends over in Pennsylvania held who had
worked with Nj Scott along the lines of such an
idea that for the general settlement Oh SUNNI
Q-You referred to the PENNSYLVANIA interests;
What were the leading interests th9r mere s refe-
TO the gentlemen who had to do with TINS heso'i"
Q.-Yes. Al should say w G. warden .. OF
Philadelphia; ! should say Mr. aoeS ara o. bauling
their oil over Mr.. SCOTS road and they were ta
gentlemen who had most to do proPanS aso1 com M
pany.
QNow, Mr. Rockefeller the leading men o, in . the
Standard or Company of Ohio at this time were
yourself and your brother William, and ID. M
Flagler were they not? They ,t, were that south
Improvement scheme. Ave did not. nd;
ms Of the Charter that they got? A-We did not
Q@Did You negotiate 5;5 t the contract WIN '''e
The answers. I'VE did not" came out with the
Il
Ter went on to say that refiners in Pittsburg
and Philadelphia interested in the South I'm
provement Company were competitors of his
and that they conferred with him about the
scheme.
The witness declared that his company held
aloof that the South Improvement Company
was a scheme which he and his associates did
not care for Mr.. Milburn continued:
Q-You took an interest in the matter? Ave
o-Now, why did you take that with the att,
tude that you had toward it? An GTaea 70 70 bo
we would be Influenced it must be remembered
the pennsylvania road was 70 be dsresardfsd
by means by railroads or by sHpger h L.
Ss@es have mentonedwere very usastic
that they welded to. We did not wish 20
R nGfa ws Ha to f 6Fes With Mf scott
t not h3 3ns 0osby to M WSTden
Q.-were you at any time in the very beginning I[s
of it. controlling interest ia the matter A-We
Wiliiam RockefeiIer and / we're subscribers do
not remember the amount. but 1t was, L should
SU ow Ell the Standard Oil interests in the
minority you that aAv s eeSu was
issued? Al have, no recollection ABOUT 1t DO
stock. But could not say POSITIVELY ,o,,.a NJ
Q.-WeH. the scheme. whatever IT was, failed MI, MI
operation. There was never any business done
under the South Improvement Company
The witness said that no stock ever is
sued. no money ever paid. That was the result
he and Mr.. Flagler and his brother William
expected Mr.. Rockefeller said:
we deemed il better not 10 break with the
powerful Mr.. Scott and not to disregard the
wishes of the large refining interests there who
were so anxious to bring it about. They be
Iieved in it: were wild about 1t. They believed
they were going to redeem all the freight traffic
and the producing business and everything else
in connection with the oil business. Our dear
friend. Mr. Walden. was very enthusiastic over
the idea.
Mr. Milburn drew Mr. Rockefeller out further
on this line
Q.-The South improvement scaeme proved Yer, very
unpopular. did il not, NJ Rockefeller! Aver
CT aroused great opposition? Alt did; yes,
o.-And with what result? 1t was abandoned?
A--Oh. it was abandoned at ONCE: IIght away. Inc
Q-The feeling and opposition to it we're on the
o.-And it grew all at once into a very marked
not take our good friends down there. who pro
4 eG6ec te Thev he the characteiistcs Of the
miners the world over. That was the case.
was abandoned? A-Oh. yes
Qn connection WR the 35PPoiGRT Known I9 IT. d
producers union? Do you recall that? Al re-
Adjournment was then taken until this morn
ing at 1890 O'Clock, although Mr. Rockefeller
was as fresh as if he had not undergone
deal of over two hours in stuffy room. He
wanted the hearing to continue but was over
ruled The adjournment at 422 o'clock and
Mr. Rockefeller went with his counsel to No %
broadway. Throughout the South Improvement
Company testimony Mr. Kellogg wore a sar-
castle smile He expects to riddle this part Of
Mr. Rockefeller's testimony
II Is not believed that Mr.. Rockefeller will
leave the witness stand until well into next
week He has so far in his direct testimony
given the history Of the company only up to
1872 The installation of the pipe lines and
the acquisition of the competitors In other than
the Cleveland field have not been touched upon.
His oss-examinaton will not he hurried by
Mr. Kellogg. the government counsel nor will
he hurry when the other witnesses are turned
over to him. They will each be taken over
much of the same ground traversed by Mr.
Rockefeller and then each will have TO submit
TO Mr. Kellogg's examination. He will take
longer To finish with each than Mr. MiIburn
for he now has the opportunity to cIinch his
case TO the full and is not likely to neglect it
The room for the hearings. where Mr..
Rockefeller will go on the stand this morning
is three times as large as the room used YES
terday and hence will not be so trying on wit
ness or counsel Arrangements were made late
yesterday for the accommodation of a large
crowd, but effort will be made to keep mere
spectators away from the tables reserved for
counsel and the reporters
OHIO OIL SUIT DISMISSED
Standard Subsidiary Agrees to Discontinue