The San Francisco call., 1908-07-04

Q--Have you had any personal eX-
periences of that kind?
Al have had them come under my
observation.
Q.-Do you remember any instances
recently?
KNOW SHOW JUDGE TERRY
WAS KILLED 7
A.-Now, there's the point; would you
just simply say that Judge Terry was
shot. Well, don't wish to make any
specific charge at the present times
but If Mr.. SpreckeIs or Mr.. Heney or
any of this graft prosecution Is shot
down, as 1t is the evident purpose to do
now, from the looks OF things, why,
can give evidence that perhaps would
be of material interest In the case, as L
know more at the present time about
the way Judge Terry was killed than
care to speak of just now.
Q.-Judge Terry was
A--Judge Terry was an honest man
and a game and fearless man, and he
believed that he was lighting for the
interests of the people of this country
when he was trying TO curb the in
iuence of the Southern Pacific rail-
road company.
/ Dwell. as to your personal ex-
/ periences with this murder syndicate;
have you any recollection of them re-
Gently?
| A--Well, during the interurban con-
/ troversy between the street railroad
! company in San Jose. when I was
| trying to secure the right of way on
/ the North Market street franchise, 1
was struck in the mouth by the fist
of a policeman, but the memory of
Judge Terry came to my mind in an
! instant, and 1 realized that it was
probably a job to shoot me down, and
the excuse would be interfering with
an officer, or resisting an officer; so I
4 desisted.
! Q-But you believe that if you had
resisted, you would have been shot?
| Al would have been shot-yes,
sir.
Q.-why didn't you tell this be-
/ fore. Mr.. Rea?
Al have told it before. went UP
| that afternoon and told it.
| Q.-I mean this general revelation
before?
A.-Because - --irds of the people
/ of this state were not prepared to re-
ceive these revelations, or these truths.
Oven, had you no means of reach
| ing the people?
A.-They were not prepared in the
first place, and in the next place. there
was no way to reach the people of this
state, as the press was all compromised
so that you couldn't get an audience.
Q.-Has any newspaperman ever be-
fore asked you for the truth as to these
matters?
A.-Yes. they know the truth. lots
OF them.
Q.-Have they ever asked you for, or
! offered to publish the truth?
A.-No. they never did, and wouldn't
If had told them what 1 have told a
/ good many OF them.
Q.-What newspapers are the main
stays of the Southern Pacific machine
in California?
HAS ALL THE PAPERS
BUT CALL AND BULLETIN
Al think they have got them all
now. unless it is the San Francisco
Call and the Bulletin. 1t looks that
way to me and, judging from the way
they are turning on the graft prose-
cution. it has the same appearance; it
has every indication of being touched
by the same influence as it has been
in every instance in the past where
| they have been caved down the bank.
Q.-About Mr.. Herrin's political or
ganization at Sacramento: who is his
main lieutenant at Sacramento?
A.-Well, his main lieutenant is Jere
Burke, as 1 understand it, but of
course he has Jere Burke. John D.
/ Mackenzie John Lynch and Walter
Parker and number of others.
/ Dwell who is the chief of the bu-
reau in Sacramento?
| Acre T. Burke. 1 think.
/ Q.-What are his functions?
/ A.-Well, he is the financial manipu
lator, the financial political manipu-
I lator. That is to say. institutions like
the Interurban railroad company he
/ takes hold of and works out the fnan-
cial situation.
Il Q.-Does he serve as a go between
for the payment of the bribes to the
legislators?
A.-Wen, that I don't know.
Q.-Is he considered the man to go
to when you want to get some money
by legislators-is he the man to see? Z?
A.-Well. he is very opportune man;
you can get pretty close up with Jere
Burke, yes. If I wanted anything 1
I probably wouldn't go to Jere because
he is pretty close; would rather go TO
Herrin direct.
Q.-Have you seen any actual bribe
money paid in your experience?
Al have been around where 1t was
paid.
Q.-That is. you have seen the trans
\ fer of the money?
A-Well, 1 never saw the transfer
of the money, no, not directly.
know this much: That I have been in
a room-in the next room, in an ad-
Joining room to where the senators
and assemblymen have come into the
headquarters, and demanded money con-
; siderations for their voting for the rail-
road company on the ground that it
would ruin them to go back to their
people il they did so vote. That was
in earlier days, however, before Mr..
Herrin's time.
BJRKE'S INFLUENCE
REACHES THE BANKS
The latest instance OF Jere Burke's
financial manipulations is with refer
ence to my own affairs concerning the
bonds of the interurban railroad at San
i Jose Since the death OF o. A. Hale
Mr.. Burke has served as president of
/ the interurban road. For instance, I
found from the different banks that