The San Francisco call., 1908-03-10

70 Us 10 protect you as 4 VII ne 10 you 20 DC
The discussion took a vide range again and
lasted until about a qusrter past one IN the
morning Ruef kept rs-pesting the same argu-
ments and insisting that il would iRjDre the
prosecution 10 have him plead guilty IN the
French restaurant case. k1ef did not AZ any
time dufing the discussion cisim that ne was
Innocent in the French restaurant case and tnAt
De- should rot ie required 10 plead =1lltF Tor
that reason He never said that Il would be
gross injustice 70 compel him 10 plead guilty IN
the case when be absolutely not guilty, or
that in substance snd effect. or anything any
vlere near that in substance OF eject Inc en-
tire argument of Ruef reTOived around the
proposition that Il he admitted that be had COM
mffted ext0rfiou in one case by pleading guilty
Il would weaken and discredir his testimony in
all the other cases. because il would be claimed
by those whom he involved that he extOrted the
would make much stronger snd batter witness
for Us II We did not pat him in the position OF
a who admitted that he committed crime
by pleading guilty
In reply I sid in substance: why how can
that make any possible difference. Rnefs When
tou testify IN these bribery you will neces-
sarily have % admit that you paid money 70 the
supervisors 20 tribe them 10 vote the way you
wanted then 10 for those corporations ana tnat
for that purpose and that you got
large part Of the money fOc yonrsel-
We know these 70 be the facts. be
cause We already have the evidence OF Il. sho
4 witness is no more discredited by pleading
guilty than he Is by testfying 70 the facts which
show ecnclusively that he IS suilty ana hAs
we are wasting valuable time. and l an SICK
and tired Of discussing the matter with you
ro1ssor ir srtsrsnce. well IL plead guilty
in No. SOS. VIII you permit me 10 withdraT tne
pies and dismiss that case when We get through
with these other cases. Langdon replied. IN
substance: .-No we viii not make any agree
ment with rou in relation 70 rhst case Wlet-
ever and We win not discuss il with you You
must plead guilty IN that case snd take your
chances on the sentence which VIII be imposed
When We get al through with these cases. II You
n ieniencT IN that case we VIII endeavor 10
Eet Il fer you. but we VIII not make any prom
ises in regard TO Il az this time.
GIVES LIE DIRECT
Lansdon did not say to Ruef in substance:
IT is understood that we didn't discuss with
you the matter Of the Withdrawal Of the plea
Of guilty You can rely on the reverend gentle
meH And he aid not say anything which
was II tie remotest degree like that In SUB
stance or eject All that he said on the sub
have Just hereinbef0re set forth he did not at
any tine say 10 Ruef. or 70 any one else IN
Ruefs presence. OF al any time IN ny presence;
You car rely on the reverend gentlemen or
anything that was IN the remotesr degree Ike
that in substance or effect
After Ruef had repeated his argument Tor
about the twentieth time 20 the effect that be
would make a better witness for the prOsecu-
ton he did not have the stigma OF the plea
Of guilty OF hin. al about 1 10 In the morn
ing GOT up out Of ny chair snd said in sub
stance. Look here. Ruef- have wasted All
ne tine mai intend 10 waste On you uca
believe you sre In good faith in this matter !
don't believe that you intend 70 rry 70 AID the
prosecution AL that you are trying TO do is 70
hand tie prosecution gold brick lou want
10 eScspe sl punishment yourself. and then you
viii do al in your power 10 help al your accom-
plices in crime to escape ali punishment You
are mistaken il your man You have been fool
Ing people 50 long that you think you can fool
everybody. and that you can continue 70 do IL
forever AL ] have 30 say 70 you Is that II you
leave this house without accepting our PROPOSE
riou I have made Il 70 VOC, when you close
the front door Of this house you VIII nave
closed the door Of the penltentisry on yourself
FOR 4 good. long term. because will never dis
cuss the question Of any sort OF immunity with
you again, and as soon as we finish the French
resre urant case I viii Try you On some of the
bribery cases: and tomorrow morning at 10
O'Clock ! viii send for Patrick Calhoun and tell
him that the prosecution Is ready 10 grant him
immunity Il be wiz tel all he knows about the
trolley franchise bribery: and II we don't get
anybody else we viii az least send you and
SchDltL 20 the penitentsr-. where you belong.
] an through with you now. and there is the
door, and Il is lste and ! want 10 90 10 bed
Get out Of here" I thereupon walked 10 the
door and opened Il. and again said Go on:
get out Of here quick / don't propose 10 waste
any more time talking 10 you You gentlemen
VII 0biige me II you viii al leave now, as
want 70 20 70 bed.
TOLD TO GO HOME
Thereupoa Ruef left the room. followed By
DR.. kap.an and by Burns. Mr. Langdon stopped
for a moment and said: Good night. Frank.
! sm glad you talked plainly 70 him. We have
wasted enough time with him. II he does not
accept our proposition as IL stands We will call
It OF and 90 ahead with his trial. He viii be
glad 70 tell all he knows after we have con-
Ticted him in Of the bribery cases.
Mr.. Lsngdcn then left the room, and I closed
tie door and remained in there alone. waiting
for them 70 leave the house. In Few minutes
Mr. Burns came into the room and stated that
NJ Lzncdon would Ike 20 in the dining
room. / went IN there. passing Ruef and Or.
Kaplau in the hall without speaking to either
81 them When ! got IN the dining room Lang
don said. IN substance Burns tells me that
Ruef wants Us TO give him until tomorrow after
noon decide this matter. and that he Will
positively decide IL then way another.
Do you think we had better give him the timer"
l replied. No; ne is 1rining with us He has
had time enough. ! would not give him
other minute II ! were you" Langdon replied.
Just about that time Burns came into the
dining room n Us and said. "Ruef wants 70
q can repe t wHsa Ts R that b0 SPe P
cannot say half a word 10 ne have given
hin ny mai word Burns retired h,s5l troR the the
said that DR.. Kaylan wanted to know II he
could not say just word 70 Us. and Mr.. Lsng-
don said. --AI right let him come in" Burns
went out and brought in Dr. Ksplan and there
upon Dr. Kanlan said in substance Gentle
- % o,siock vii pieaes nv word of honor
ss minister Of religion that he viii give you
bis positive answer al shat time Mr.. Langdon
that We have been giving Mr.. Ruef time from
day 10 day, and he Is no nearer giving us an
snswer now than than be was two weeks age
We cannot give him any more time. He is not
acting fairly with US. doctor.
RUFF BEGINS By LYING
DR.. Kapian again appealed TO Mr. Langdon to
give Ruet sust one more chance 10 talk IL over
with his family. and assured US that he CDR
Kzplanl believed that II would be all right and
that Ruef would accept our proposition Just as
We had made II 20 him that night and that he
kDr- Kaplaul would do his best 70 get him 70 do
II would just give Ruef until j. O'Clock
the next day Finally Mr. Langdon said in
Substance: Well. doctor. for your sake we
viii give him until tomorrow morning at 10
O'Clock" Dr. kaplan then asked us to permit
him 20 speak 70 Buef about II. and he lefts the
room DR. Kaplan returned 70 the room In a
few moments and said that Ruef told him that
10 O'Clock too early. he wanted 10 have
a talk with his father before be gave his an
swer well with several others and that
be could not see them that early. Mr.. Langdon
then said: .AI right doctor. / will split the
difference and give him until IL O'Clock tomor-
row morning II he does not give US his answer
81 that time without any more discussion Of any
kino the proposition Is all on. Ruef must then
say res OF no, without any conditions whatever -
DR.. ksplan again excused himself and left the
room, and came back in a few moments and
said II was al right and that Mr. Ruef would
give rs his answer At IL O'Clock the next morn
(Dr. kapianl satisfied that il would BE all
right and that the answer would be yes
All Of the parties other than myself there
upon left the house. Mr- Langdon waiting until
the others had been gone for a few minutes
Il was I.5o In the morning when Mf. Langdon
left.
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