Omaha daily bee., 1908-12-22

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the witness declared that honest men easily
could differ on that question. The steel
business, he said. was a business by itself,
and the cost to one man was a very DIFF
ferent thing from the cost to another.
when a gentleman of Judge Gary's char
%acter," he said, comes to you and tells
you he does not want a tariff you ought
to believe him." He insisted in reply to
questions by Mr.. Bonynge that the rail-
ways were not paying too nue. for steel
rails. The steel rail makers he thought
were making a Iair profit.
How about other steel products besides
steel rails?' Mr.. Bonynge inquired.
IT have not a word to say" Mr, Car
negie replied. That's out Of my province"
Mr.. Carnegie on Judge Gary.
Mr.. Ford reeited the testimony OF Mr..
schwab and was interrupted by Mr.. Car
negie with the remark that "he is a genius"
Breaking in upon a Scotch story which
Mr.. Carnegie related and in the course OF
which the witness mentioned the name of
Judge Gary. He was asked II II was in
tended to characterize Mr.. Gary as "a sleek
article"
"oh, no." said Mr.. Carnegie. 'On the
contrary he lie q most lovable man. 1t
means that he is shrewd. 1t means that he
has a delightful. sweet nature
would you an income tax
to make up the deficit in the ~revenues7''
Mr.. Fordney asked.
IT believe" replied Mr.. Carnegie de-
liberately, with Mr.. Gladstone. who has
had more experience with the income tax
than any man Of his day-that an income
tax makes a nation Of liars. OF all the de-
moralizing taxes that a nation can impose
upon the people the income tax is the
worst"
You agree with Gladstone in that?" in
terjected Chairman Payne.
"I do" the steel magnate replied.
80 do l." said the chairman.
'If you want to do harm with money.
give 1t away to those people who will not
struggle for themselves was one Of the
numerous epigrams Frightening Mr.. Car
negie's unique testimony.
Reward for CIeverness.
THAT applies to the tariff on steel"
he added. "I think the man who can make
three or four dollars more profit than a
lazy, inert corporation management should
be allowed to make that profit for his
country's good" was an opinion expressed
by Mr.. Carnegie. when being questioned
with regard 20 what he considered a res-
sonable profit.
Dealing largely in generalities, Mr.. Car
negte said ne wanted 1t understood that
his statements represented his opinion
solely. He said that he came before the
committee because summoned and that he
gave his testimony because he thought 1t
his duty as an American citizen. II did
not volunteer It," he said.
Pressed with questions from all sides,
MI. Carnegie arose from his seat and dra-
matically declared that 'he was a proteo-
ZIONIST"
"I DESIRE" he said, ITO furnish to the
consumer a cheaper supply and more reg
ular supply than he could get abroad and
II after forty years experience We cannot
develop steel with that condition. our pro-
tective policy in that instance would have
been a failure instead OF a triumphant sue
cess it has become. Pointing his finger at
the committee and raising his voice to its
highest pitch he declared that the steel
industry was now in the position where
1t can say: Take your protection. We are
now men and we can beat the world in
the manufacture OF steel"
There is no reason for the tariff on
STEEL he again emphasized. you should
not coddle the industry with protection"
A recess at this point was ordered. Mr..
Carnegie inquiring IL the committee was
through with him.
mo- came a chorus OF voices.
This is cruel remarked the steel mag
nate as he retired from the room.
His solicitude for his weaker brethre
is sublime" said Mr.. Carnegie, referring to
Judge Garys' contention the smaller steel
manufacturers could not stand for the abo-
lition OF the duty ON steel
No steel Imported.
Mr.. Carnegie said the manufacturers Of
Wales could make a ton Of tin plate a
shade cheaper than Il could be made here,
ana that the cost Of manufacturing steel is
greater In Great Britain than here. He said
the committee should send experts familiar
with the steel industry to the large mills
Of Europe to study the question OF COM
parative cost OF labor.
1T is a condition and not a theory that
concerns the committee at this time" said
Representative Longworth IN reply. 1T is
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