The Washington herald., 1908-02-23
VIEWS or Big Tim
Sullivan Wants Women to
Vote in New York.
LIKES MAN WHO CAN DRINK
He Has Ideas that Are quite His
Own-"How Could a Young FeIler
kiss a Girl with a Clay Pipe iu
Her month";" He Asks-PIace for
Her on a Jury-AIso as Mayor.


vetoed the ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS smoking
ordinance has not cast any special gloom
over the Sullivan headquarters.
Little Tim took train for Arkansas
as soon as he had started the discussion,
but Big Tim expressed the opinion that
he could talk on the subject just as well.
For the uninitiated, the Sullivans are
first cousins. Big Tim is six feet two
and Little Tim is by no means dwarf,
standing five feet eleven in his stockings.
and those who know say that he always
has stockings. in which he differs from
some of his constituents
There is a difference of seven years in
their ages and none at all in their polit
ical views, when it comes TO the question
Of purifying New York politics.
They have stil another point Of resem-
blance. Neither one OF them smokes,
chews, or drinks.
There IS nothing great done in this
world without imagination. The Sulli-
vans have Imagination, particularly Big
Tim.
The picture he drew OF the license that
might ensue If women were allowed to
smoke in public was touching enough
to draw tears from the eyes of Teddy
bear
How could a young fener kiss a girl
II she had a clay pipe in her mouth. he
asks. And honestly. just as man TO
man, how would you like 10 see a pretty
girl on Broadway take out her tobacco
pouch from one pocket, her pipe from an
other-I mean her bags-bag, and fill it;
the pipe, not the bag, and then smoke it,
the pipe, I mean. not the bag?"
WOuIdn't Like IL.
OF course, you have TO allow that you
wouldn't like it at all. but you feel it in
cumbent on you to tell Mr.. Sullivan that
smoking among women was pretty gen.
eral and that the only reason they didn't
insist on smoking in public was that they
had too good sense 20 force an issue that
was purely personal and had no big prin-
ciple involved.
Big Tim shakes his head in surprise.
Honestly. I didn't know that women
smoked 10 that extent he says. Per
sonally, | don't know any that do. Ger
tainly the girls and women down here
don't
IF the girls down here took UP that
habit. / am convinced II would be very
bad for their health. You begin to form
a habit. and the trouble is that IL grows.
and the first you know it's got the best
Of you; habits don't stand still.
But don't think I'm trying to interfere
with anybody's liberty; that's the very
last thing / have In mind or Little Tim
either We're both great on personal lib
erty every time.
I'm almost an extremist I'm a per-
sonal prOhibitiOnist. but 1 amt advocat-
ing prohibition for the masses. / believe
that a man that can take a big drink
and carry it so II don't show is bigger
man than one that never drank at all
I advocate Ingersolls famous saying
you know it-that man who don't chew.
smoke. or drink ought to be shot. I'm
that fellow and I know I ought to be
shot. The only thing can say in my be-
half is that 1 don't interfere with the
other fellows rights 10 do all three:
neither does Little Tim
Friend of the Women.
But / don't want women to think that
I'm not their friend. for l am. I've al
ways been, whenever I've been in poll
tics-in the assembly, in the State legis-
lature, or Pember Of Congress.
For sixteen years was the one Dem
ocrat that voted for woman suffrage. 1
have always voted for It every time it
has come up, and always shall. I'm more
for il to-day than ever before.
Il have met all the women pioneers
who have come up TO Albany in its be-
helf-A1iss Susan B. Anthony Mrs Eliz-
abeth Cady Stanton. Mrs. Mary Ellen
Lease, the silver-tongued- orator; Mrs
BelYa LockwOOd-and l liked them all
and thought them very interesting talk
ers.
DO believe that women would be as
conscientious as men if they had the
privilege of suffrage? More so. believe
that women are 40 per cent at least more
determined in their convictions than men.
Women talk such a lot and they hear
such lot Of talk that it don't make
nearly as much impression on them as il
does on the man. You can oftentimes get
a man to talk over things and convince
him by your eloquence, but the woman
is looking for practical results every time
She will listen. she even likes 10 hear
the talk, but il don't usually change her.
man can talk for hours or days or
weeks about his love for a woman. but
until he begins to speak about the we'd
ding ring and the priest she don't get
particularly moved by his flow Of words:
have you ever noticed that? 1t viii be
the same way with their votes
All the arguments that are brought up
against II seem TO be pretty silly from the
standpoint Of a man that's right down
here in the heart of things on the great
East Side. that furnishes uptown with
its big men. its lawyers. and It's politf-
clans. and X actors, and even some of its
best-known actresses. Sam Bernard. for
instance; Pete Daley. Weber and Fields.
Go to Work Early.
You stand some morning about :
o'clock at any of these side streets. which
are the great arteries of the East Side.
and you'll see girls and women going to
work, eight of EN- to man. They go
10 the factories and the shops and they
work there until O'Clock.
Sometimes there are ten or eleven
children in a family and ten of them are
OF the female sex. / know OF lots Of
cases where the girls in a family are all
working hard so as to give the one boy
good education that they couldn't have
themselves. That sort of sacrifice is so
common down here that II don't cause
any comment; il Is taken a matter
OF course.
Then you read Of some man who
makes a speech UP at Albany OF some
other place, and says with tears in his
voice that the fireside's the only place
for women That's all right. but is he
furnishing fresides or is any one else
and does he think that these ten girls in
a family are going TO work in factory
because they're tired of their firesides?
Amt that nonsense, never knew a
woman that didn't prefer firesideA II
there was one around They're SO keen
about 1t that you'll see them dropping
work and getting married when they
know they'll probably have to work Just
as hard in another way. but they look
on IL as a release, and il is, too
Mr.. Sullivan is asked what he would
think about a woman as mayor of New
York.