New-York tribune., 1908-01-21
NEW THAW SIDELIGHTS
WIFE ADDS SUICIDE TALE.
Repeats Her Former Story and
Jerome Begins to CrossEramine.

Mrs Evelyn Thaw in spite of Mr.. Jerome s
objections. repeated in open court yesterday her
story OF her alleged relations with Stanford
White much as she told it at the first trial Of
Harry Thaw-the story which Is supposed to
have been the foundation for Thaws feeling
against the architect which finally resulted in
the homicide For the first time however, she
told of suicide pact which Thaw urged upon
her in this city and his attempted suicide by
laudanum in a Paris hotel IN 1904. This was the
first new evidence Of importance brought out at
this trial.
In cross-examining her in the afternoon Mr..
Jerome asked why she had not repeated this
story OF attempted suicide at the first trial Mrs
Tllaw replied at once that il was because Mr.
Delnas said that il would make him [Thawl out
TOO c<azy." Mrs. Thaw the stand all
Gay. She gave the greater part OF her direct
testimony in the morning and at a little after )
O'Clock 81 the afternoon Mr.. Jerome began his
cross-exan.iaation which probably will last all
to-day
As soon as court opened Mr.. Jerome renewed
his application for the exclusion of public and
press while Mrs Thaw's testimony was being
given. Mr.. Littleton doing more than concur
ing formally Justice Bowling ruled against it He
said that whatever harm would be caused the
morals Of the community by the printing Of GER
tain details and testimony is more than COM
pensated fer by the safeguards thrown around
the constitutional rights of the defendant
While the justice speaking Mrs. Thaw
went to the witness stand. Mr. Jerome. as soon
as Mr.. Littleton began to draw out the story
she is alleged 10 have told Thaw in Paris OBJ
iected. He said that story three years old at
the time of the homicide was not material as
showing any effect the mind of the prisoner.
The court replied that his objection would be
more material in the cross-examnation of alien
lists The nationality of his acts" continued
the court lis to be ascertained only by Compar-
ing the results of his reasoning with the data
that lay before him 10 be reasoned on"
Mrs Thaw was then allowed 10 tell her story
without material interruption. Mr.. Jerome's OBJ
3ections being mostly OF a technical character
She told in almost the same phraseology as be-
fore Of her first meeting with Mr. White: how
he had given her mother money and clothes to
make a trip TO Pittsburg; of the occasions he
had taken her 10 dinner. always behaving in a
courteous manner. Then she told OF her first
trip TO the studio in East 22d street, where she
was photographed many times Then followed
the story OF her visit 10 Stanford Whites studio
in the Madison Square Garden tower. where at
q luncheon. she says she told Thaw, she was
drugged and then assaulted by White
What was Thaw's appearance wnen you teid
him this?" asked Mr.. Littleton-
He got terribly excited and he gnawed al ms
fingers and he paced up and down the room
and he sobbed. I could not call ii crying; II was
a peculiar sort of Sob
She said that Thaw kept up this sobbing all
night She then told how she had come TO go
on the stage, she had related IT to Thaw w e
We're frightfully poor she said. Il told him that
we lived in one room-Iny little brother, my
mother and myself-and did not have enough
TO eat half the time. We lived on crackers. and
sometimes we had coffee in the morning. It
was very hard for me TO keep the three OF US
on the money earned in the studios and that
if / went on the stage il would just that
much more
she then told of her visit 10 Abe Hummers
Office after her return from Europe the first
time She said that the much discussed affi-
davit simply list OF places they had visited
i abroad and that she had visited abroad. and
! that she had made charges of cruelty
against Thaw She said that Hummel had
urged her TO Thaw for breach Of prom
ise. and had told her how he had got much
money for chorus girls in similar suits. After
this, she said, she and Thaw lived in the Grand
Hotel. where when he recalled the incidents
she had told him in Paris. he would break out
fn the same paroxysms Of sobbing that he had
on that night Then came the big surprise of
her testimony-the story Of the attempted sui
eide. whichc had been preceded by Thaw's ef-
forts TO have them both die while living in this
city.
"One afternoon in the Grand Hotel" she tes-
titled, 'he said my life had been ruined and
White and his friends were constantly circulat-
ing unpleasant stories about him and hurting
him in every way possible. and that SO many
things happened that there use in living
and he was going to commit suicide, and he did
not see why / should live either / did not
know what TO do He was in a quite wild state
and asked him what he was going to do. and
he said he thought he would take laudanum
and he said he thought ought TO, too; that we
could both take 1t together He fixed the time
and date and everything He wanted me to go
70 the Waldorf with him and get room and
then at 3;30 that afternoon we would
take laudanum. i was quiet with him as I
could be- He was very wild and excited and
j was very much frightened, and agreed with