New-York tribune., 1908-12-19
MCARREN In A DEBATE
OPPONENT A CLERGYMAN.
Tells Y. M. c. Il. HO10 CITY Should
Select n Mayor.

Senator Patrick H McCarren, leader of Brooklyn
Democrats and defender OF the racetracks'. ana
the Rev Dr. John F. Carson, pastor or the Cehudl
Presbyterian Church, the leading church OF that
denomination in Brooklyn and the organizer OIL
Christian sentiment in support of the re-eectloh o
Governor Hughes faced each other last night on
the platform of the Bedford branch Of the Young
Mems Christian Association in a debate on the
tests that should be applied in the selection OF
candidate for Mayor next fall, and, incidentally
direct nominations. State Senator Eugene M
Travis, leader of the Republicans Of the Ith AS
sembly District also spoke
In introducing Senator McCarren, Edward p
Lyon. president of the Brooklyn Young Men
Christian Association, caused considerable amuse-
nent by saying: Il will have to ask the speakers
to refrain from personalities.
Senator McCarren was received with much ap-
plause, and said:
hope that 1 will be considered disrespectfnl d
look over the field a little further. / have been
asked speak upon the principles that sho1iai oG
training has inspired me with bellet in three
tests Is the man honest? Is ne 1apaoie' ~
believe that Your example in holding these s,e
meetings could well be emulated They are reet EFT
civic price and dqty and raay Tadt yst nearing
the ideality in the minds Of our best fI1eiS' '
only here, but in all parts OF the ~ ipcjples
of party government viii lead to the best nc forr Taft Of
city and state g9veTnmgnt IN Manhattan. believe
that he has confidence in political parties ana tHSa @
party should be responsible for the actions 81 tI I
party The Republican & nnC o PregdeDt Roosevelt
the head of the party. lie condeseended 70 pefihI'
am am tod omgb+ Ing nhnut MIR sherman's nomination.
him to be estimabe gentleman wen quailleu qua
to Mn nj Bryan snS G'VS was Just as powerful at Denver
know that Mr.. Bryan nominated himself I wTote
fbsn his own m Roose1e u selected his own running
two men were absolute showing the trend Of sen
tment toward the powers ece 81 ene b
tween our government and that of England Ihere
the Prime Minister resigns II rasc the rro
posed tariff revision, Mr. Taft will not Ie resign taga
Once two congressman did resign because Con,
gress did not do what they wanted ana and tbeV
We're w not Endorsed whether they get what they
want or not % as rule ',,se1f they stay III oii''e
You and I know that no man could be nom nominate o1
for Mayor by you and elected solely upon your
Tonpg MEMS CHRISTIAN Association" You may
contribute toward candidates election we nave ave
no elected who were not callu VI n "a
fusion candidates elected. but they were usually
Republicans The Pem0cTaiJs Mem nave won in
small sections such as Senatorial districts: Tno fTa
put {nes9 ea ffe opinion that Independent move
Tnenfs are not in the healthiest condition just nov"
Senator McCarren greeted with laughter
when he said he did not hold a brief for any po-
tical boss, and added that his political assoela-
tions had got him into a great deal OF trouble
Then he said:
In his recent address in Manhattan Governor
Hughes spoke on Civic Righteousness, TO Whicn
we all subscribe Governor Hughes has endeaVored
his lights A man who expects to be elected must
hope for the majority of the votes
Governor Hughes's nomination was deemed nee
essary to Nr Tafts election in this state MS
nomination was dictated by the same influence that
dictated Mr. Tafts nomina tion. The friends of Mr.
Hughes contended that he possessed all the clElc
virtues. Then the election Mr.. TAFT, Tor
whose sake Governor Hughes was renoml na TED,
ran 133 900 votes ahead of him, and Mr.. White.
lie of political machine work IN the
If this had been off year 1t Is said that MI
Hughes would have been defeated. SO the selec-
ton of a leader does always work success
fully as are inclined to hope. We are liable 10
wrongly read public sentiment.
If the several hundred men in this audience were
called upon give tests for selecting candidate
they would probably give several hundred answers
Nobody doubts the civic virtues OF Mayor Seth
Low but he was beaten when he ran Tor re-eiec- a
tIOn by CO. 900 votes When he elected the first
time his opponent that perSOnlncation OF CIVIC,
virtue Edward NJ Shepard. If the foresight OF
he voters had been good as their hindSlBht tney
might have chosen Mr. Shepard instead of MI
Low The ideal of to-day Is the discard of to-
In the six years of Mayor McClellan's admins
tra tion 7 believe that he has conducted our city
afeairs honestly. 7 believe he Is capable, and |
know, that he is faithful to the constitution. do
not know whether he is a candidate for reelection.
7 am not speaking for Mayor Mcclellan or any
bodv else Mayor Lows friends made the same
contention for him when he was running Tor re-
election
DR. John F. Carson said that good deal OF what
Mr. McCarren had said was true. but that It did
not go far enough.