The Washington times., 1908-11-24
FORCES OIL KING
TO NAME RAILWAYS

. You would certainly not swear to an
affidavit that you had not examined?'
Il should say not"
Did not Mr.. Arcnbold. Mr.. Flagler,
and others publicly say and testify that
there was no combination"
Il cannot say what these gentlemen
may have testified to at various times"
FOrgets Own Testimony.
Mr.. Rockefeller could not recall that
/ he had testified in 1873 that the Stand
ard oil Company had ever controlled
/ transportation lines of any description
that would give them the benefit OF
! lower rates than their competitors or
that he had said in the same year there
are IN New York. Ohio West Virginia,
dan many other States many OF re-
Ilnefles Jhat are not controlled by the
Standard oil Company and the Stand
ara All Company does not control 80 Is
per cent or the entire oil refined In the
Cnlted States. Mr.. Rockefeller's mem
oIy was at IA alt when he VAS asked
about suit brought by the Standard
against James COTrigan, of Cleveland;
he could not remember
Mr.. Rockefeller knew nothing about
lhe Producers Land and Petroleum
/ Company, Of BayOnne, n. J.; never
heard of the General Industrial Devel-
1 Opment Syndicate OF London, England
tan alleged Standard oil property, nor
OF the Manhattan oil Company OF Ohio;
! the Anglo oil Company, limited, or the
London Commercial and Trading Com
pany.
Wants Trustee List.
Can you give me a list Of all Of the
corporations and properties acquired by
the Standard Oil trustees up Il the pres
/ ent timer"
1T would be very difficult for me to
go through the history of that long pc
riod. 1t would entail great hardship
upon me-
Il 90 not expect you personally to do
that AS president, you can give direc-
tiOns 10 have il done"
AIT- PogenthaI said: such a list has
already been made and will be put in
evidence as part Of the defense"
Il noticed by the bill and answers in
this case that many officers Of the
standard Oh Company are directors OF
many of the railroads In she United
States
Interest in Railroad.
Il cannot speak particularly with ref
erenCe to others to whom you refer"
.Eave you been largely interested as
a stakeholder in any railroad companies
with which Your company has been do
ing business?"
Admits Owning Stock
Il am an investor. l may have stock
IN a railroad company over which
shipments are made by these oil inter
ests."
Are you such an investor ia security
In railroad companies In which +. d.
Gates. 9. W. Hardness Pierce, Pratt
Rogers. John ID. Rockefeller, ir., VII
liam A. Rockefeller, and Henry I agleF
are directOTs2'
In Wisconsin Central am a bond
holder These bonds I own. whether
they are registered and appear in my
name on the books OF the company 1
do not know"
Mr. Rockefeller said that a number
of Standard Oil officials were directors
IN that company, but ne knew none
OF them except his brother. Wilh8m
Rockefeller. He said that Ia the past
he owned stocks and bonds Of a great
many railroads, but had disposed Of
them all except eight or ten.
Bonds in Pennsylvania.
'In the Pennsylvania railrOad?"
mo. sir. possibly have bonds IN
that system"
Chicago. Milwaukee and St. Paul2'
II have none OF their stock. PFesum-
ably I have some Of the bonds
can you name these six, eight or
temp
Il could name a number, II required
10 answer. But, Of course, those good
Is gentlemen Of the stock exchange
might think ] was not very wise.
have no personal reason for not Civ
ing the information, though I should
prefer TO, unless il is going 10 further
the cause OF justice here