Los Angeles herald. [microfilm reel] (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1900-1911, 1908-11-21

shook, the president of the Standard
Oil company saying:
1--WE ought to pool issues"
After recess Mr.. Kellogg took up
with Mr. Rockefeller the rates for
TRANSFORMATION of oil prior to the con-
struction of the trunk pipe lines.
Earlier Shipments
Prior to 1881 Mr. Rockefeller said all
of the crude oil shipped to the seaboard
by the Standard Oil company was car
ried by railroads.
Henry Flagler and John D. Arch
bold had much to do with making these
transportation arrangements; William
Rockefeller did not take such an i'm
portant part in It," said the witness.
Mr.. Rockefeller said he had no doubt
the state of Pennsylvania brought suit
in 1879 to GUST the United pipe line
from that state ON the ground that 1t
was in conspiracy with the Pennsyl-
vania railroad to obtain preferential
rates and drawbacks He did not re-
call the names of the parties to an
agreement for the dismissal of the suit.
Don't you recall that Mr.. Cassatt
testified that the Pennsylvania rail
road paid rebates to the Standard Oil
company, the American Transfer COM
pany and the United Pipe Line COM
pany?" asked Mr.. Kellogg.
MIR. Cassatt may have testified to
those rebates. 1 do not know about 1t
as / had nothing to do with the pay
ment. This was number of years
after I had retired from participation
in freight arrangements"
Mr. Rockefeller said he signed the
agreement by which the suit was dis
missed, but did not recall the details,
although he remembered there was
some trouble about freight rates.
Cassatt's Testimony
Mr.. Kellogg read the testimony of A
J. Cassatt i'm a case brought by the
state of Pennsylvania against the Penn
sylvania railroad, in which Mr. Cas-
satt said the Pennsylvania agreed to
pay the 10 per cent rebate to the
Standard because it might divert its
trade to other lines.
Mr.. Rockefeller said he did not recall
Mr.. Cassatt's testimony, nor did he re-
member the construction of an indie
pendent pipe line for those refiners who
were unable to obtain the same rate
from the Pennsylvania road as did the
Standard.
do you mean to say that you don't
recall the suit against your company
for receiving rebates?"
Il may have had the knowledge at
the time"
MI. A6HOBS IHSIl CdllSu Tic WllAiSSS
attention to a terminal agreement by
which he said the Standard obtained
the use of the terminals of the Erie
and New York Central railroads and
which he said provided that all the oil
transported by any person over the
New York Central railroad could be
delivered to the terminals provided by
the Stanard at Hunters point.
Mr. Kellogg asked if warehouse
charges were made against the indie
pendent oil refiners at these terminals.
Mr.. Rockefeller said they We're made.
He did not recall whether the other
railroads paid the New York Central
a certain percentage for warehousing
the oil they carried
Cannot Remember
Replying to other questions Mr..
Rockefeller said he could not recall
whether the Standard Oil company
controlled the National Storage COM
pany. which was the terminal of the
PENNSYLVANIA railroad at Communipaw,
or whether he used this oil terminal
from 1875 to 1881. He could not state
how long the Standard controlled the
terminals of the Erie and New York
Central roads.
He said he was in the east.
Did not the Standard make the ter
minal rate which was charged to the
independentsy
"They were charged fair warehouse
rates. as provided in the agreement.
but you controlled all the terminals
and made all the rates
1--WE would not have been so unwlse
as to charge more than fair rate