New-York tribune., 1908-04-07
GET JACKSON EVIDENCE
REID TO L4UM4kERS.
Ieuestigation Seems 4ssnred-B'tfer
Protest against Jmys -Act'on.
m Telegraph to The tribune.


Albany y. Y April 6-Speaker WadsWorth OF
the Assembly and LielnSanant Cover sor Chanlef'
President the Senste. handed down to-nisht ana
the clerks OF the Assembly and Senate read copIes
of the presentmeht found by the grand jury Tor
New York County against Attorney General JACK
son and OF the verbatim testimony submitted 10
that grand jury regard TO Mr. jackson
The present1nent and minutes were received III
boih houses with stormy debate on me ques.loh
whether or not they should be ordered printed Inc
question was put TO a vote and II was go oiueIe"'
1he vote in the Assembly was . TO a. ana IN 'he
Senate "a 30 16
Attorney General jackson another letter 10
the Legislature. which also read tie protesteu
against making public the minutes oi uhe sIA"u
Jury and urged Justice to himself The Leg
isatuf take such action will lead TO the InlieSt
investigation OF my official conduct TO the eho th't
II any wrongdoing be found, may suHer thereIoI'
or if none found, the insinuations mace against
me may br declared without foundatioh anu es eA-
plunged from the records.
In view OF this letter and the attitude adopted
by the minority, legislative investigation OF lhe
Attorney Generals office now seems assured. Inc
minority leader. Nj. Palmer in the Assembly oe
fed the ma ajority not TO investigate Jackson
will be the first man 10 move such an inVes'satioh'
if am permitted to- he cried
AsseYlblvnan Hammond. the acting majority
lea der in his argument for printing the doc culehts
said he thought Judge Foster must have consld-
cred sufficiently the wisdom Of sending the docu-
mems 10 the Legislature before he acted MI
Palmer retorted that it was practically an Insult
fer the grand jury TO send 10 the Assembly TOT US
consideration material which it had not peen
able 10 Indictment. IheY thrust ''iie
in our teeth he shouted
The Senate by a vote OF p to IT, rejected a
resolution offered by Senator Grady, minority le"U
~ 10 appoint a committee TO investigate the Al
torney- Generals conduct Il think we can trust
f Assembly 10 do its duty said Senator Raines
IURYs ACTION CONDEMNED.
--ta New York County Grand Jury was rated
Cor i+s action in making public the minutes by
both the ma iority and minority leaders II Is d
charge that reflects more upon the Intelligence OF
the grand jury than the integrity or the AIIoIe3
General" said Senator Grady
Senator Grady particularly bitter because
the testimony had been sent to the newspapers
subject TO release. and intimated that the GOV
ernor gave il out. He said he knew neitler
Speaker Wadsworth nor Senator Ralnes Wouiu give
/ il out
This is said 10 be the first time the history Of
the state that a grand jury has asked and caused
its minutes 10 he made public when no indictment
had been found Mr.. Jackson asserts posluVey
| that such action IS without precedent ana goes
so far as TO question whether the grand jury has
not committed a nisdemeanor in taking the action
| II has and whether Speaker Wadsworth the Lieu
K tenant Governor and the clerks or both Drahches
/ Of the Legislature not guilty OF assistance IN
the commission Of misderneanor
| When the presentment was made public. the At
tornev General characterized il as low, dirty
| cov-ardiv. living attack upon him.
| The grand Jury minutes consisted Of tfe testi-
! n1onv Of Frank White formerly First Deputy AT
torney Genera, and that OF Mr. Jackson hlInseif.
| Mr. Whites testimony consisted of account Of
/ a conversation had with MI Jackson after the
court had allowed him s12.50O fees for his ser
vices as receiver for the Hamilton Bank
| He testified that the Attorney General in that
conversation said TO him: 4 think II would be all
right for s6.250 Of this to go 10 the other
J man" Mr. White said that he told the Attorney
General That is prepest terous," became highly in
! dignant and excited, and, 10 use his own words,
| flew up in the air right away" He said he did
| not know whom Mr.. Jackson meant by the other
| man" and that there understanding or
agreement of any kind about the receivership or
| its fees when he appointed receiver. He
| further testified that Mr.. Jackson had used no
| threatening language 10 him except to tell him
| that he would regret it
JACKSON's TESTIMONY LONG.
The testimony of the Attorney General is full
Of repetition. and covers many typewriter pages.
In regard 10 Mr.. Whites allegation. the Attorney
| General told the grand jury: Il have in
reference TO these receiverships agreed 10 receive
| asked demanded or expected 10 receive one penny
| from anybody concerned for myself or for any
| body else and any language included in any pur-
ported alleged conversation with Mr. White
that has for its construction anything else is
| false"
Summarized. his testimony, irrespective Of that
relating directly the White conversation. was
| to the effect that he was a much abused and i'll
/ used person and had received far from a fair,
| square deal, which said he lis all I ask, all I
| want
There was complete silence when Speaker wads-
! worth and Lieutenant Governor Chanler handed
down the documents and instructed the clerks to
| read Both branches listened with close attention.
The presentment read first In II the grand
| jury spoke of conflicting testimony" and asked
that copies OF II and the minutes be sent both
| branches OF the Legislature and the Governor for
/ action.
FRANK WHITES TESTIMONY.
| The minutes began with Mr.. Whites testimony.
After telling Of ais appointment receiver and the
beginning Of his ton with Mr.. Jackson, he
said:
! said. 4 don't thinh it extraordinary for q man
that mas been the habit OF getting pretty decent
fees from other men TO get the amount got Tor
And I said, 4 won't entertain any proposition OF
| that kind This allowance is mine II was made
by the court, ana intend to keep it." And got
very much excited There was 4 great deal said
after that. but that Was the substance.
/ think he asked me who appointed me told
him Belts did account OF the friendly
! latiOns that existed between us for years. And
much excited and amazed at the PROPOSE
and talked pretty rapidly. and told him that / did
| not want hear any more and walked out OF the
| room.
This is Mr.. Jacks0ns version OF the conversation.
He came into The Office and during the course of
/ he received. He started Immediately 10 complain
| that the $1,000 Tot enough, and talking in
. this when l said: Il think YOU have re-