Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1908-07-25
GIRL TELLS OF GOULD PLOT
MISS McCAUsLAN COOL UNDER
EXAMINATION.
Attorney for Defense Says Counter
plot Will Be Proven-At-
tacks Witness.

NEW YORK. July 25.-In the examina-
ton yesterday in special sessions by Mag
istrate Corrigan on the charge that Mrs.
Ben Teal, wife of the theatrical man.
ager; Harry E. Mousley, a private detect
i've, and Miss Julia Fleming. a seam
stress had conspired to get evidence
showing improper relations between
Frank ]. Gould and Miss Bessie De Voc.
Mabel McCauslan, the milliner's appren-
tice. who told Of the plot, was the only
witness.
She told in detail her story of how she
came to meet Mrs. Teal and Miss Elem
ing. how the subject of making a false
affidavit had been preached by Mrs. Teal.
and how. having been promised a large
sum for doing so. she had signed it in
the presence of Detective Mousley.
Edward Carpet. Miss Fleming's counsel.
waived examination for his client. This
was because she has made a full confess
sion of her connection with the alleged
plot to Assistant District Attorney Hart
who is in charge of the prosecution. Miss
Fleming was in his office all the morning
with her counsel and a stenographer. who
took down her words She is said to have
taken the step because Of her resentment
at being left prisoner In the Tombs
after the other defendants obtained bail
Remanded to Tombs.
When the lawyer told the magistrate
that she would waive examination Mr..
Hart said 1t was not necessary to exam
Inc her. and that he would move to have
her bail lowered, as she had made a full
statement. She was remanded to the
Tombs. AS she left the room 1t was evil
dent that she was Ill.
The hearing then began with formal
motion by counsel for the defense to have
his clients discharged. This was denied
Miss McCauslan was then called as a wit
asked her, Mr.. Blumenthal, counsel fol
Mr.. Teal. outlined the defense.
Your honor" said he, Il expect to
prove that this plot against Mr.. could,
II plot 1t Is. was devised by Miss McCaus-
Ian. 1 mean to show that she knew Miss
De Voc and Mr.. Gould were acquainted.
She knew that Mrs. Teal had sublet her
nat to Miss De Voc and would probably
be called as witness In the divorce pro-
ceedings. She therefore went to Mrs.
Teal, telling her she had evidence against
Mr.. Gould.
Mrs. Teal, happening to know accident
ally that such evidence was wanted, call
ed in the detective, and innocently car
ried out this girls plan. What induced
Miss McCauslan to change her plan and
to give away the plot shall not disclose
now"
Cool Under Cross examination.
Mr.. Blumenthal cross-exsmined the wit
ness. She said in answer to his ques-
tions that she had absolutely no malice
toward Mrs. Teal, though she could not
say she had any friendly feelings for her.
She was supported. she said. partly by
herself and partly by her relatives.
Have YOU a good memory" the law
yer asked. Miss McCauslan not under
standing. he repeated the question.
Things that I have seen and know
have happened I am sure off, she said.
DO you mean by that" he shouted,
that you remember the things you want
to remember only?"
Il do not mean" she said, that have
convenient memory"
"Oh," said he. then you know what
I'm trying to get at?"
Yes, 1 do know what you're trying to
get at" she replied coolly.
TIE tried another tack.
Did you," he asked, when you asked
Mr.. Cats advice, know that he was Miss
De Woes lawyer?'
II knew he was not Miss De Woes law
Did you know, them" he asked, that
about February 1 he acted as her lawyer
when Mrs. Teal sublet her rooms in the
Glenmore to Miss De Voe?"
1cS, L UiO kuOW tHdL, sue answered.
Didn't it strike you as a strange CO.
incidence?' the lawyer asked.
1T did not" she answered.
Throughout the examination Miss Nc.
Causlan was perfectly cool, spoke clear
ly, and only once or twice when Mr.
Blumenthal annoyed her was she a Bit
confused. Then she frowned slightly, bit
ing her lips. She did not look once a,
Mrs. Teal, who sat beside Detective Nous
ley at the defendants table few feet
away.
Miss Fleming Confesses.
Contents Of a statement said to hav,
been made to the district attorneys Of
flee by Miss Julia Fleming, in custod!
on the charge of subordination of perjury
in the Frank ]. Gould divorce case, wer,
made known today.
After the hearing yesterday Miss Elem
ing, 1t was said. made a statement which
corroborates the story told by Miss Mabe
MacCauslan. the young milliner's appren
tice, in which the latter said she ha6
been offered a sum of money to testify
falsely against Frank ]. Gould in the
divorce suit brought against him by Mrs
HELEN Kelly Gould.
When employed at a prominent hotel
acquainted with Mr.. Gould. Her part
In the alleged conspiracy was to coach
MISS MacCauslan and enable her te
Identify Mr.. Gould on the witness stand
Miss Fleming was to have been married
today. If her release was not procured
on bail 1t was understood the ceremony
would take place in the prison.