The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1908-11-24

then, didn't Won tell me the other day
THAI You had acquired the Warner plant
before 1882"
Mir. Rockefeller Forqets.
Il cannot recall what 1 stated in the
affidavit"
Did you also STATE in that affidavit
that in 1850 the Standard OIL was not a
stockholdsr in any railroad pipe line or
any other common carrier
AT that time TIE Standard oil was
not such a slockl.oIder ! meant by
that then. and mean now. tina the cor
poration called the Standard Oil of Ohio
was NOT s,ockho'der In any railroad
or pipe line"
preston ' that 'I The s Stock K OF ali f taege
various ,refiner!es was not in the hands
Of Standard OilH"
IT the stock # these companies was
ever in Standard OF | knew nothing Of
it then. and know nothing of II now"
yet that sut OF 1850 was brought
very soon ate. your trust agreement Of
1879, wasn't it,
II presume so. although DO not re-
member the date of the litigation
Weren't the true facts purposely
kept from the public. and didn't you
alWays deny that such an agreement
existed"
Il don't think such statement was
made in that affidavit"
Outsiders "knew" of It.
That is not the question" said kei-
logg. Please give me proper an
'"Wen. then" said Mr.. Rockefeller. Il
assume that there were many outside
that trust agreement who knew of the
facts
Il cannot give you any names"
Why didn't you tell the real facts in
your atfidavit?"
drawn by our lo'ryers,"
But didn't you furnish the facts, and
didn't you read the affidavit, before you
had sworn to and signed it?'
oh, yes, / assume so"
During that period-ls7s to 1880, say
didn't Nj Archibold, Mr.; Flagler ana ana
etaers of %ur opd ndes peS5Henb nay
Standard Oil had not obtained control
of majority of the retineries in the
Ohio-Pennsylvania territory?
II would not assume to tell YOU what
these gentlemen said
Did you swear in your deposition that
your company controlled less than 81
per cent. Of he refineries when actually
you contro' 1t more than % per cent. %
II cannot member"
Did you state in Your affidavit that
Standard OH did not enjoy the benefit
of any rebate arrangement with any
railroad?"
II cannot say
Didn't you say that no outside re-
finer was being Disseminated against
! by the Toads?"
II cannot recall after this period of
time
well didn't you testify the other
day here that YOU did have a secret
arrangement with the Pennsylvania ?"
Mr.. Rocket, Her Worried.
Il may have" said the witness slowly
and reluctantly. He seemed worried.
We'll then in the view OF your state
ment here that you did have IN iSis and
1859 private arrangement with the
Pennsylvania, 1t would appear would
it not, that the statements embodied in
your affidavit were naccurate"
II cannot be certain Of what. appeared
In my deposition at that time,
do you recall that Mr.. o. II. Payne,
Mr.. Flagler and others made afiidav Wits
In that suit of 1850 in which they stated
that the Standard OIL did not, either
through its officers or It's agents, own
or control the rehneries which were ac-
tually then in, your trus, agreement. as
you. yourself have testihed?"
"A distinction appears to have been
drawn between the company and ats Of
fcials' was Mr., ROcAefeller's ambigu-
Gus answer.
HAVING succeeded in worrying the oil
king as uu'a as. possible by showing
hin how his affidavit Of 1880 gave the
directed Mr. Rockefeller's attention TO
James C"rrigan, and asked him regard
ing cer,a.n Information which he had
furnished 10 Mr., COrrigan.
Mir ltD"kefelier said he assumed that
he only told CorrIgan what had been
represented to him as a true state OF
facts. Further than that, this cautious
old gentleman from up TarrytOwn way
Wgulj not commit himself
N r. Kellogg then asked the witness II
he knew ~ the General Industrial Syndi-
cate Co Of London, the Manhattan Oil
90. % Ohio the Security oil Company
Of Texas and the London Investment
and Trading co. Of England He also
wanted TO he told whether these CON
Germs were not owned by the Standard
In each case Mr.. Rockefeller sadly re-
piled that he Nas unable 10 furnish any
Information adding that he had not been
active IN the affairs of the company for
a number Of Years
He also expressed ignorance concern
ing one James Mcdonald, said to be an
on Trust employee Mr. Kellogg asked
II II was not tru" thai the Standard had
an account against Nj, Mcdonald
amounting To S2HHn0
Mr. Rockefsllcr didn't know. He ad-
mited an Acquaintance with a James
Mcdonald. = cincinnati, hut explained
hat he didn't kno" what James has
cen doing ~ late years"
Mr., Kellogg wanted 10 know II Mr..
Rockefeller could furnish him with a
81 Of properties acquired and con-
~olled by the standard OH Of recent
ears
He Gently Demurred.
Mr. Rockefeller demurrcd Gently, say
x This would put upon him consid-
bic labor IN o field from which he
lad practically Withdrawn and In which