Mexico Missouri message., 1908-12-03
OIL KING EXCUSED AFTER HE
NAMEs RAILROADS IN WHICH
HI 10 INTERESTED.
HIS MEMORY IS VERY POOR
Has interest In Mexican Line, but
Can't Tell What u 10 Called.
Owns Stock In
Seven.

New York. N. VI. ID. Archboid
was placed upon the stand Tuesday
after John ID. Rockefeller had been
excused by "Trust-Buster" Kellogg in
the hearing before Commissioner
Franklin Ferris Of st. Louis.
Archbold will be asked TO tell Of
the various transactions OF the OIL
Trust since 1882, the date where
Rockefeller was allowed TO stop.
Whether Rockefeller will be recalled
depends, It Is said. upon the facts OBJ.
tanned by the governments inquisitors
from Archbold.
On what probably will be his last
day on the witness stand in thc gov
ernments trust.bustlng proceedings
against the Standard oil company.
John d. Rockefeller appeared In the
court after Referee Franklin Fcrriss.
Ave minutes late, Monday, Rockefeller
vas much crestfallen ever the fact
that he was late.
II believe | can truthfully say II is
the first time in my life that have
been late in keeping business en-
gagement. II grieves more than
can say" he declared.
Rockefeller did not offer any
reason for being late. IL 10 thought
his automobile was tied up by the fog.
The richest man in the world wore an
overcoat that was old and frayed
around the collar. As usual. he took
1t of. placed It under the referees
desk. smiled at the reporters, and
then mounted the witness stand. His
cross.examination by Frank G. Kel.
logg then proceeded.
tiiS Railroad Stock.
Rockefeller testified that he owned
stock in the following railroads:
Lackawanna, New York Central,
Pennsylvania, Western Maryland.
Missouri Pacific, Texas Pacific, fire
preferred Erie. Colorado Southern
and railroad in Mexico. He owns
no stock in the Union Pacific or
Southern Pacific.
Kellogg began: Mr. Rockefeller,
notice by an exhibit furnished to the
government by the Standard oil Com
what purports TO be true list OF the
stock OF the Standard OIL company Of
New Jersey in 1889, and in subse-
quent years. in exchange for stock OF
the said company; and in that list
there are large blocks Of stock first
issued In your name. l suppose this
was done for the sake OF convenience,
but would like you to explain. For
instance, of the various issues OF
blocks OF 10000 and $4,000 there is
credited to you 442,797 shares out of
a total Of 9S3.3S3 shares. assume
you did not originally own all the
shares that were recorded In your
names?" Il did not own anything
like as much as 332,797 shares"
The others we're issued TO you to
turn over the owner?" IF founS an
owner or holder OF shares In the
Standard Oil company Of New Jersey
and II holders of small fractional
shares in the other companies could
find holders Of shares In the Standard
oil company of New Jersey. those
shares were turned over to me-"
Kellogg looked very puzzled over
this answer, which, however, had not
been finished. Mr.. Rockefeller con-
tinued:
Il see here a long list. have not
seen such a list before. I have had
nothing to do with the affairs Of the
officers in those years. and 80 cannot
make any other answer"
Generally speaking. there were
large numbers of shareholders in
these 80 companies who held the stock
that was not distributed?" Il should
say there were n few"
The people who held the trust CIR.
tifieates eventually exchanged them
for shares in the Standard Oil com.
pany Of New JeTsey?" Each holder
OF a trust certificate Of the Standard
Oil company Of Ohio got paper from
the liquidating trustees which enabled
him TO obtain from the company HIS
proportionate number OF shares, and
these he could exchange for stock OF
the Standard OH company Of New
Jersey that had to be done that way"
Rockefeller said he did not handle
the trust certificates, and had nothing
whatever to do with any transfers of
certificates. He could not remember
how many shares Flagier owned. or
whether Fiagler had transferred Ger.
tifcates owned BY him TO o,Ae- ne--
ties.