Waterbury evening Democrat., 1908-12-22
GARY REPLIES
 TO CARNEGIE.
Steel Trust Chairman In- SiStS Figures Are Right.
DIDN'T TESTIFY FALSELY.

As to the Laird's Sarcastic Remark
 That Gary Like the Monkey In
 Aesop's Fable, Used Independent
 Steel Men to Pull Chestnuts Out of
 Fire For Him. Gary Says It Was
 Just His Way of Saying Something
 He Doesn't Really Mean.
 New York, Dec. 22.-Elbert II. Gary. chairman of the United States Steel corporation, after readin" the tariff testimony of Andrew Carnegie before the ways and means committee, re- piled today that while his (Gary'sI fig ures had been cOntradicted by Mir. Carnegie. they were nevertheless the accurate computation of the cost of steel production.
 'rhc figures that l gave the ways and means committee with reference to the production of steel are abso- lutely accurate" said Judge Gary. Tt is too serious a matter to give informa tion on so important topic that may be wrong or misleading.
 When l told the committee what it cost per ton to produce steel I told them what know to be the truth and truth based upon careful investigation as well as complete knowledge and ex- perience in connection with the steel business.
 "I realize the full importance of the hearing. I certainly did not testify falsely. I had a full comprehension of what was being sought by congress. I gave the information I did according as knew and believed it to be true"
 As to Mir. Carnegies remark about the monkey in Aesop's fable, which used the cat to rake the chestnuts out of the fire, Judge Gary said:
 Il don't want to criticiSe MT. Car negie. He is d fine man and an able one I really don't think he meant what he said in his reference to me. It was just his way of saying some thing he doesn't mean when he is in certain mood. I can only repeat that my figures are accurate"
 On his return from Washington after his eight hour ordeal before the committee Mr Carnegie said today that he was glad the ordeal was ended.
 II hope I have been able to shed some light on the tariff question for the members of the committee he said. and 1 trust it will be of some value"
 To the committee Mir Carnegie re- iterated that the iron and steel busi- ness of this country is not in need of protection. that it is no longer an in- fant industry and that with the duties l removed this country can beat the world in the manufacture of steel in practically all it's forms.
 Mir Carnegie advised the committee not to put too much confidence in the testimony of interested witnesses. He referred with much sarcasm and quaint humor to the testimony of Judge F. H. Gary, chairman of the 1 board of directors of the steel trust l He reminded the committee of Aesops fable about the monkey and the chest nuts and said that Gary was using the independent steel mems plea as the catspaw to drag the chestnuts from 1 the fire for him.
 1 It was pointed out by Mir. Carnegie | that while it was true the cost of steel had increased relatively, yet it was true likewise that it was increas- 1 ing relatively abroad, that the situa- ton abroad as to the iron and steel l business was much worse than here and that the resources abroad were 1 not comparable to Americas. He req soned that because of this, with Amer 1 ica's tremendous progress In methods, ] this country is in position to defy all competition.
 For instance" said MT. Carnegie, England is in q far worse position as | to ore than the United States"