The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1908-11-21
HIS HOT TALK.
Famous Interview of the Kaiser
With DIR. Hale
Is Made Public by a New York
Newspaper.

New York, Nov. 21.-what purports
to be an absolutely accurate and auth
entic synopsis" of the interview OBJ
tanned from Emperor William of Ger
many by DR.. William Bayard Hale and
subsequently withdrawn just as it was
about to appear in the Century Maga-
zine is printed by the World today. The
world declares that the article as or
lginally written was submitted to DR..
Hale and that it appears today "as
changed by DR.. Hale"
The interview is said to have taken
place on the imperial yacht Hohenzol-
lern off Bergen, Norway, while DR.. Hale
was the emperor's guest. The World
summarizes the main points of the en-
peror's interview as follows:
That King Edward of Great Britain
had been humiIiating him for more than
two years and that he was exaSperated,
that Germany was the paramount pow
er in all Europe and that England was
trying to neutraliZe that power.
That he held France in the hollow
of his hand, and that Russia was of no
account since the disastrous war she
had waged with Japan.
That if the Pan-European war
which had been so much talked about
was inevitable the sooner it came the
better it will be for him because he was
ready and was tired of the suspense.
That Great Britain had been de-
cadent nation ever since her victory
over the transvaal and the Orange Free
state, because hers was an unrighteous,
ungodly cause and divine judgment was
bound eventually to overtake the pow
erful nation that waged such a war.
THAT the Anglo-Japanese alliance
was an iniquitous alliance against all
the white races, England proving abso-
lutely her faithfulness as a Christian
nation; that Japan was honey-combing
India with sedition and flooding it with
spies While protesting openly to be Eng
lands friend and ally.
THAT the only way to counteract this
1.,-fr1 70,
gether at an early date or America
would have to fight the japanese in
ten months.
THAT in the event of a great war
colonies, especially those in the Pa
cific, and that all he would take for
Germany would be Egypt, though he
would hberate the Holy Land from the
yoke of the infideL presumably mean
ing the sultan
sThat the perfecting of the Zeppelin
dirigible balloon would give Germany
a powerful advantage in war and she
was ready to make use of it to the
fullest extent"
The World declares that Emperor
William knew when he made these
statements that DR.. Hale was an
American newspaper man and maga-
zine writer, but that nevertheless the
statements were made without reser-
walton and that no secrecy was impOs
ed. The interview had been formally
arranged through the German foreign
office, it is said, and at the conclusion
of the interview DR.. Hale returned to
Berlin and told high officials of the for
eign office of the success he had.
They forbade him to publish it, the
World story continues. Then they ex-
planned to him at some length that even
a hint at possibilities so serious COM
ing from one who had been the emper
or's guest, might throw the whole world
into the most disastrous war of all
times. The attitude of these officials
is said to have been that the emperor
was irresponsible when he gave way to
such fits of temper.
1t is said that DR.. Hale obeyed the
instructions of the foreign office in the
preparation of his interview, but later
when the manuscript was submitted to
the high German officials, they are
said to have so butchered it that little |
which was worth while was left" 1t |
was in this final form, according to
the World, that the article was ac- |
cepted by the Century. 1t was prac-
tically ready for publication when the |
request came from Berlin that even the |
interview in its revised form be sup
pressed. Then the electrotypes and all |
copies of the interview were destroyed |
before the public announcement that |
the interview had been Withdrawn was
made.
Hale Repudiates 1t.
DR. William Bayard Hale today is
sued the following statement:
II repudiate absolutely the story
which the New York World this af
ternoon published purporting to tell
what passed at my audience with the
ton from beginning to end, and 1 so
declared to the World reporter who
showed it to me before publication