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The Columbia herald. [volume] (Columbia, Tenn.) 18??-1935, 1908-03-27
II CANDIDATES
HAVE QUALIFIED
~
CATER THE RACE FOR AS
|.esos; TWO FOR SHERIFF;
one FoR TRUSTEE
OyE WEEK UNTIL ELECTION
A,5 Alien Are Busy Every Day
wi,,no With The "oear
People"

ara OF. The candidates for
a-m-nt in the Democratic primary
ali in the ring and the race Is now
- on There are just three stakes
aighr entries. For the best prize
4 hut one entry, for the second
Two but in the third race there
he i've very badly disappointed
,nocrats on the night OF April 4,
remarks anent the unusually
% number of liars in Maury county
Il he the order of the day. Before
In'olock Friday, the hour appointed
the closing of the entry lists, all
,e candidates had deposited the
h amount with Secretary
r. -. the Primary Committee,
rla;es will be printed upon
'4ag have qualified and
0ted for in the Democratic
y:
= trustee: Elem Thomas. the In
|nbent.
For Sheriff: Love Webb, the In
nbent; MiIt e. Allen.
For Tax Assessor: G. T. Butord,
n Cowley, T. c. Harris, Will J. Kin
f F. Morgan and Otey Thomp-
,. ~
From now until the polls
Asa the candidates will be
~ active. for a majority OF
.,itical contests are won and los'
ring the closing weeks Of the cam
IGN All of the candidates are pay
court to the country Democrats
most every day now, except the
ustee. who is not of course as active
the others. Nevertheless Mr.
bomas is just as anxious to poll 9
} vote as if he had a competitor.
Webb and Allen are out In the coun
with the "dear people" every day
i I'd both are using all their spare time
! inpress the sovereigns with tn'
crit Of their respective candidates.
he candidates for assessor are als'
|1,sy but this race does not claim th'
btarest or the attention that is glvei
hat for sheriff. !.
There are 1000 qualified Democrati
|oters in the county, but no one Ia
biliar with the political situation De
|eves that anything like this numDe
II votes will be cast in the primary
Rome even estimate the vote as loN
i 1000, while others place 1t as mig
Is 1880 Much will depend upon Tn
keather. If the day is good and In
|armers are not too busy 5000 vote
viii be cast, otherwise the numoe
hay not run over $500.
No poll tax receipts are required
but unless the voter has registere
Iince he last moved or at OF sine
Ehe last general registration OF Angus
1907 he cannot participate in tn
primary. The qualifications are broa
and liberal in that "all well know
white Democrats otherwise legan
oualified voters who will pledge tnen
selves to support the nominees OF Tn
primary" may vote.
The Columbia herald. [volume] (Columbia, Tenn.) 18??-1935, 1908-03-27
COMMITTEE MEETS
THEN ADJOURNS
REPUBLICANS TO TAKE UP CON-
TEST FROM COUNTIES THIS
AFTERNOON.

Special to The Herald.
NASHVILLE, Tenn, March 20
The Republican State Committee met
this morning and adjourned until after
noon without transacting any Ousl-
ness. Time was allowed for the COM
mittee on contests to make report.
The Columbia herald. [volume] (Columbia, Tenn.) 18??-1935, 1908-03-27

There's nothing so good IF a soFs
throat as DR.. Thomas Electric . |.
Cures It In a few hours. Relieves
any pain in any part
The Columbia herald. [volume] (Columbia, Tenn.) 18??-1935, 1908-03-27

woman loves clear, rosy complex
ION Burdock Blood Bitters purines
the blood, clears the skin restores
r,aav sound health
The Columbia herald. [volume] (Columbia, Tenn.) 18??-1935, 1908-03-27
CONTINENTAL FIRE INSURANCE.

co.-when It comes 70 hsurAAce
the Best is the Cheapsst. irrespective
of cost, but the Continental charges No
moro for In policies tAaA agents q
many less responsible composites sss
Cor theirs. Farm business solicited.
FARpElL & Lirsc NMe. Agents.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
SAN FRANCISCO
IS WORKED UP
Mass Meetings over Heneys Shooting
And Mention In
Churches.
THE AGITATION IN GERMANY.
White and Black Mobs Have Bloody
Fight in Indian
Territory.
THE AGITATION IN GERMANY

SAN FRANCISCO, November 10
Morris, Haas, VINO attempted to assas-
sinate Francis J. Heney, committed
suicide in his cell in the county Jail
here yesterday, shooting himself
through the forehead with pistol he
had struggled into his cell concealed i'll
his shoe. lie had been searched twice
after his arrest without the revolver
being discovered.
Heney's condition is satisfactory An
operation to recover the bullet will be
made this morning. The missile has
been located under the lower jaw
A meeting of the citizens of San
Francisco was held last night, ten
thousand persons being present. Reso-
lutions were passed declaring that the
support of the people would be given
the prosecution of all criminals, high
or low. Mayor Taylor presided over
the meeting.
SAN FRANCISCO, November 10
Heneys condition last night was still
favorable. The operation to remove
the bullet, which has been located, will
be performed this morning.
Two mass meetings were held yester-
day and references to the attempt to
assassinate Heney were made in all
the churches. Resolutions of SYM
pathy were passed and Communications
were given to the work of the prose
cution.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
EPILEPSY CAN BE- CURED.

notwithstanding epilepsy is consid
cred by most physicians as incurable,
DR.. Miles Restorative Nervine has cur
Ell hundreds of almost hopeless cases.
Let us send you testimonials from
those who have been cured and they
will tell you all about it. DIR. MILES
MEDICAL CO., Elkhart. Ind.
lin correspondent declares involves
Germany in the gravest domestic cri-
sis she has experienced since the dis
missal of Bismarck.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16

The day of her disappearance, the
girl went to the Oakland Bank of Saw
ings and drew out nearly $500, receiv-
ing the money IN gold, which she put
in her handbag. She drew the money
from her own private account, which
amounted to about $4,000, and was left
to her by her father. Miss Clark was
a member of Christ Episcopal church
of Alameda She was inclined to be
very religious and had often expressed
a desire to enter a convent. The mother
and daughter had many heated contro-
versies on this subject and on the
morning of the disappearance Mrs.
Mack had admonished the girl to take
a more liberal view of life.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16

BERLIN, November 1.-Chancellor
Won Buelow's position appears to be
almost untenable. Far and wide
throughout the empire the newspapers
of all parties, with varying degrees
of amazement and regret, view the
governments explanation of the man
ner in which enormously important ut
terances of the Emperor affecting three
great powers, passed through the
hands of the Chancellor and long line
ingly having been considered by any
of them or read by most of those res
ponsible for the delicate foreign rela-
lions.
The Emperor fully condones Prince
Won Buelow's part in the affair, but the
Chancellors authority and prestige
with the country have been so shaken
that he may again ask the Emperor
to relieve him.
The radical, liberal and socialist
journals utilize the event to urge upon
the country a demand for a ministry
responsible to the parliament and peo-
pie.
In addition to the semiohicial ac-
counts already published, it is learned
that the Emperor handed the manu-
script of the interview which appeared
in the London Daily Telegraph, and
the authorship of which is still un-
disclosed, to Baron Won Jenisch, who
was attached to HIS encourage while
| the Emperor was absent from the cap.
ital short time ago, as the represent
tative of the foreign Office, with the
| direction to send it to Prince Won Bue-
| low.
Through error the manuscript pass
ed into the hands of subordinates and
was finally given out to a Berlin press
correspondent
LONDON, November 1.-The London
morning papers comment ironically up
on what they describe as ingenious
| semioflcial explanations" from Berlir
concerning the Emperor's published
interview and consider that the effec
of these will be greatly to increase dis
trust of the German foreign Office anC
it's methods and probably dead to Still
greater ill-feeling between Great Bri
tain and Germany.
The Daily Telegraph gives no further
explanation of the affair, which its Der
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
BAD RACE RIOT.

OKMULGEE, Indian Territory, No
vember 16.-Three negroes and two
white men were killed here yesterday
and ten men wounded as the result
of a battle between a mob of whites
and negroes, who were defending a ne
gro murderer. The murderer was cap
tured by a white mob and burned to
DEATH The militia have been called
out to prevent further fighting.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16

In view of the cable advices received
yesterday afternoon by Ambassador
Tang Shao-yi that the Empress Dow
ager was directing the affairs of state
in China and had arranged for the
proclaiming of the new Emperor and a
Regent, it is possible that the Empress
mentioned in the dispatches is the ac-
tual Empress, niece of the Empress
Dowager, the widow of Emperor
Kwang-Su, and not the Empress Dow
ager herself. The Emperor Kwang-
Su, the report of whose death is cor
roborated, left many wives of various
ranks, but only one was known as
Empress.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
RUNAWAY GIRL LOCATED.

OAKLAND, November 16.-Edna
Clark, the Alameda art student, who
disappeared some weeks ago from her
home and for whom Pinkerton detec-
tives and the police of many cities have
been searching, was located yesterday
in Chicago. She states that she left
her home voluntarily because of the
restraints upon her there and becaus'
of her inclination to become a member
of the Roman Catholic faith.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16

The Prison Ship Martyrs monument
is erected at the site of the burial
ground used by the British during the
Revolutionary war in which to inter
the bodies Of American patriots dying
aboard a ship used by them at that
point as a prison The death rate
among the American prisoners, due to
unsanitary conditions, was heavy. This
burial ground is just without the pres
ent limits of the Brooklyn navy yard.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
sATrRDAY,s FOOTBALL.

SAN FRANCISCO, November Is
The results of the various collegiate
football games yesterday are: Stanford
beat Berkeley, twelve to three; Chicago
lost to Cornell on its own ground by
four to six, and Pennsylvania outclass-
ed Michigan by twenty-nine points to
nothing.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
NEW CABINET FOR AUSTRIA.

VIENNA, Austria, November Is
Baron Bienart, the Minister of the In
terror. according to instructions issued
TO him by the Emperor, has formed a
new cabinet, taking the position at the
head of the new government himself,
os Premier.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
JAPANESE ARMADA.

KOBE, November 16.-Thirty battle
ships have been assembled for review
by the Emperor, The review will be
conducted at Mako, owing to plague
scare which has been started here.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
EMMA SQUARE
BAND CONCERT

The band will play at Emma Square
tonight at the usual hour, half past
seven, and Captain Berger has a very
attractive program to offer which will
be as follows:
PART l.
Grand Observation-Disclosures ..... Berger
Overture-Birthday ....... .Conterno
Intremezzo-Th Arab Patrol. .Tobani
"reminiscences of Verdi. .... Godfrey
PART II.
Vocal-Hawaiian Songs. ar. by Berger
Selection-The Rose of Shiras. .....
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. .Eilenberg
WaltZ-The Syrens ........ Waldteufel
Finale-A Good Kiss. ...........C oote
Star Spangled Banner"
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
GERMANY,S SENSATION.

BERLIN, November 16.-The audi
ence with Prince Won Buelow to be
granted by the Kaiser concerning the
recent publication in London news
paper of an interview with the German
ruler, has been deferred until tomor-
row, owing to the death of Count
Haeseler.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
ENGAGEMENT DENIED.

WASHINGTON November 16.-Sen-
ator Elkins has again denied that any
engagement of marriage exists be-
tween his daughter and the Duke
d'AbruZZi
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
TAFT VISITS ROOSEVELT.

WASHINGTON, November 16.-
President-elect Taft was a guest OF
President Roosevelt here yesterday.
Mr.. Taft returned to Cincinnati last
night.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
MONUMENT TO PATRIOTS.

BROOKLYN, November 16.-Presi-
dent-elect Taft yesterday dedicated the
Prison Ship Martyrs monument at
the Brooklyn navy yard.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
EMPRESS is DEAD.

PEKING, November 16.-The EN-
press is dead. Prince Pu-yi has been
proclaimed as Emperor.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
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NEW YORK-American Exchange Ma
tional Bank.
CHICAGO-Corn Exchange National
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The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
LIBERALS WIN IN CUBA.

HAVANA, Cuba, November l5,-ln
the elections throughout Cuba yester-
day the Liberals were victorious.
The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1908-11-16
Fraternal Meetings
HARMONY LODGE NO IT.. o. o. y

HARMONY LODGE MOST. o. o.
Meets every Monday evening at 7:St
In Odd Fellows Hall, Fort Street Vts
iting brothers cordially invited TO At
tend.
BEN F. vICKERS. N. q.
q. r. HENDRY. Sec.
HONOLULU LODGE e1e, 3. p Q. Z
will meet their hall, King street
near Fort, every Friday evening. BY
order of the e. r.
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Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

The congressional race in the
second Oregon district is now on.
The announcement of the candi-
dacy of T. T. Geer of this city
opens wide the gates. Portland
will now groom her strongest man
in the hope of winning with a
divided eastern Oregon field. 1t
looks as though Mr.. Geer is play
ing into the hands of Portland
against the interests of his
home, eastern Oregon, for
with two candidates in the field
from this section of the state
Portland will have the advant-
age and unless some strenuous
work is done, the entire congress
sional and senatorial delegation
from Oregon will come from
Portland and that immediate
vicinity. Congressman Ellis has
the decided advantage over any
other candidate so far, but a di-
vided field in Eastern Oregon
will give Portland the under
hold"
Ellis is now in the harness.
He is a bona-fde and pioneer
resident of this district.
He has the prestige of having
served before in Congress.
He can accomplish more than
any new man and is therefore
the logical candidate. East Ore
gonian.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

Any man can take a news
paper. 1t is the cheapest thing
he can buy. Every time his hen
cackles and has laid an egg, his
paper is paid for for that week.
1t costs less than the price of a
postage stamp. 1t comes to you
every week, rain or shine, calm
or stormy. No matter what
happens, it enters your door a
welcome friend, full of sunshine,
cheer and interest. It opens the
door of your neighborhood and
puts you face to face with the
people and the events. 1t short
ems the long winter nights. 1t
is your adviser, gossiper and
friend. No man is just to his
children who does not give them
a local paper. No man is good
to himself who does not take a
home paper. -Ex. The soundest
advice that can be added is be
good to yourself during this new
year by reading the GLoBE-a live
county paper that prints all the
county news.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

The immigration to Oregon
this year ought to be double
that of last In no other state
has every character of crop yield
ed so enormously and command
ed such a high price. People in
the older communities are dis
posed to move, and Oregon
should get more than its proper
ton of new citizens, but to ac-
complish this all the commercial
bodies must work in harmony
and individuals must participate
through private correspondence,
which is the strongest influence
of all.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

The somewhat disturbed fnan-
cial situation in the East and
South is causing industrial in
stitutions in the older states to
investigate the opportunities for
a more advantageous home on
the great Pacific Northwest.
These facts have been indicated
through the large correspondence
on this subject received by the
Portland Commercial Club dur
ing the last sixty days.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

The Mitchell Sentinel has
made its temperance into the
newspaper field of Easern Ore
gon. This Office acknowledges
having received the bright and
newsy exchange. We wish the
Sentinel all kinds of success. In
its leading editorial the SentinePs
policy is TO wage war against
the wrong and uphold the right. "
In reference to the coming
election, it says, I'VE viii try to
be in the right, we viii ad-
vocate the election of good,
honest men to fill the offices, and
like all good Republicans we will
be in favor of an economical
management of m municipal, |,
county and state affairs"
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

A new law has just gone into
effect which strikes hard at the
county press-the placing of one
cent stamp on every paper which
goes to a subscriber who is in
arrears for more than one year.
1t has been the policy of the
GLOBE management to print in
its publication from week
all the reliable news, to
stand behind the fundamental
principles of good government,
and especially to work for the
general welfare of Gillian
county and Condor. The paper
that makes these features its
predominating policy is entitled
to the confidence of the public,
coupled with liberal circulation
and patronage. The circulation
and patronage, we are pleased
to acknowledge. have been ex-
ceedingly gratifying during the
past year, the GLOBES circula-
ton having increased in a won
derful manner. It is the in
tention of the management to
keep on with the good work un-
til every one is thoroughly con-
vinced that the GLOBE is the
only real county paper in Gillian
county. In order to prove the
statement we are going to give
subscribers all the important
news from the different sections
of the county. We know your
wants and know that you will
appreciate our efforts. In return
see that your subscription is in
good standing.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17
Notice for Publication. stats selection,

Notice for Publication. state Selection
United states Land once. The Dalles. Oregon,
November 18th, 1907.
Notice Is hereby given that under the provIa
ions OF the Act OF Congress Of August II, ists
and the acts supplementary and amendatory
therein. the state OF Oregon has this day hled Ia
this ofice Its application No. COS. to select the
wISEwI< OF section II, Up. s., n. 70 +. W. NJ.
ANY and all persons claiming adversely the
above-descrlbed land. or desiring for any reason
to object to the final allowance ofthe selection,
should file their claims or objections In this of
dce on or before the cath day OF January. 1908
CIV. MooRE, REGISTER.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

The Oregon State Grange op-
poses the nomination of Schuebel
of Oregon City for U. S. Attor-
ney to succeed w. C. Bristol on
the grounds that he is mot a
fit" for the position and protests
will be sent to Washington. Ac-
cording to the members of the
grange, the officials of that or
ganization are in possession Of
facts, which when presented it
is claimed will surpass the OBJ
jections of Senator Fulton,
Congressman Ellis and Hawley.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17
Notice For Publication.
United States Land Once.

The Dalles, Oregon, November 23rd, 1907.
Notice Is hereby given that Mary G. mcfarland oi
olex, Oregon, has filed notice Of her intention to
make final commutatIon proof in support Of her
claim, viz: Homestead Entry No.l4e4s made Feb
Q, 1906, for the
ER1% Of Section 20, Township South, Range
20 E., W. M, and that said proof will be made
before the Register and Receiver at The DalIes,
Oregon, on January Goth. 1908.
She names the following witnesses to prove
her continuous residence upon, and cultivation
OF, the land, viz: willet West and Hubert Haw.
ley Of Olex. oregon; Samuel Landon and ]. r.
Leslie Of croy, oregon.
G. W. MOORE, Register.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17
Notice For Publication.
Department Of the Interior.
LAND once .. rhe paIles. olegon,

Land once q, The Dalles, Oregon,
nccember 2nd, 1907,
Notice is hereby given that John @. lohnshin
Of Ajax, Oregon. has died notice OF his Intention
10 make anai nvc.yeaf proof In support Of hin
claim via: Homestead Entry No. ioes7. made
May ~. 1902. for the sEll Of section 3, Tp. -,
RisE, W. NJ. aud that said proof will be made
before the Register and ReceiverAt The Delles
Oregon. on January 2ls,, .sos
He names the following Witnesses TO prove
his continuous residence upon, and cultivation
of, the land, via; George smith. Walter smith
Hugh Scott and George cram. all OF Ajax. ORE.
c. W. MooRg. Register.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17
Notice For Publication.
Department Of the interior.

Land once at The Dalles, Oregon,
December 10. 1901,
Notice Is hereby given that Alice Z, Coffin of
Condor, oregon. has nled notice OF her in.en.
tion to make anal hve.year proof In support Of
her claim. via; Homestead Entry No ssso made
Oct iith isoi, for the sE'sswsS 4 sskss Nee. 3.
a sw.asws1 section :, Township -, Range 70
g., W, NJ, aud that said proof will be made b.
fore George ". PMman, U. !. Commissioners q,
Condon, Oregon, on January Is isoS.
She names the following Witnesses to prove
her continuous residence upon, and cultivation
Of, the land. via; X, y, Weiss aud Sd Walters OF
Condor, Oregon
CIV, MooRR. Register.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17
Notice For Publication.
Department Of the Interior,
land Oftsa a. Tha Dalias tlr,

November SOlh, 1907.
Notice ls hereby given that Harvey l. Wallis Of
Glen. Oregon. has iled notice Of hls intention 10
make final eommulation proof in support Of his
claim. viz: Homestead Entry No. ii6so made
sept Sth, 1905. Tor the E.SswS<. swllsw4 sec.
II. sE,4sE.. section 10, Tp. south. Range 20 f.,
". NJ. and that said proof win be made before
the REaISrER and REcEivER at The Dalles, Ore.
gon, on January 2ist, 1908.
He names the following witnesses to prove his
continuous residence upon, and cultivation OF,
the land via: G. ". Williams, wa. West ]. II.
Peugh and c. II Ballard. all Of Glen. Oregon.
CIV. MookE, RKoIsTgR.
Condon globe. (Condon, Gilliam Co., Or.) 189?-1919, 1908-01-17

Elections and marriages are
just alike, says an exchange;
there is nothing the candidate
will not promise before hand.