The Washington times., 1908-11-02
Neither Side Willing tt
Give Figures on New
York Result.
TAMMANY ON SQUARE.
DEMOCRATS BELIEVE
Suspicious Revived by Indefinite
Statement of Prospects in
Empire State.
By ]. c. WELLIvER.


NEW YORK. Nov Z.-Both national
chairueu THIS morning put the respou-
sibility for final estimates on their State
chaiunen o. other leaders. They read
the nnal crop OF kilograms. making
the last claims. Zach, by this process.
carried about 80 electoral VCssz
Neither national committee wouIG sasgs
any definite figures on New York Each
referred 70 the New York state COM
mltLee for information; and the state
committee would not give anything ike
satisfactory answers TO questions.
Great things were expected by the
Democrats fgom Tammany, when ats
final estimate should come out. Il esTus
Sunday night, iu a statement by Charles
+. Murphy. But IL was disappointing
TO the assembled Democratic national
leaders when IL was laid before them
at their headquarters. II named no dg-
ures: il merely declared that the Re
publicsus some Gime ego estimated New
York for Bryan by $4,000. and for
ChanIer by $4,000" And by inference
Indicated that these figures look pretty
good 20 TaMmauy. But Tammany made
no claim OF fits own save that Chanisr
and Bryan would carry the Greater City
by large pluralities.
Tammsny Suspected.
The suspicion that Tammany may yet
not be square with Bryan was revived
by the nature OF its statement. Per
s0HaIly. DO not believe Tammany viii
dump Bryan. and L have talked with
Leader Murphy, Secretary Tom Smith.
and other leaders of the hall
From them / get these reasons why
II ought 10 be apparent that Tammany
u.. Ha boz rHHa
First. The national Democracy be
heFes u has good chance to win. If
By an loses becauHe OF bad slump IN
Iammauy JerrlroE-- Iammanv viii new
er get over II; tha Bryan people win
knife Tamn-aay IT, the may0rEIty con
test next year.
Second: Tammany is at a critical
period of its struE gle To perpetuate con
troll Of New YORK. It has been beaten
hack from BROOKLYN. Manhattau's pop
ulation is decreasing because OF the de-
yeiOpmenJ Of business driving out resi-
dences The other hoT0ughs are grow
ing fast. Iammany's power is in Man
haitian. II must keep its vote as big
as possible in order 10 keep its ascend
ency IN the city
Third In the last few days IL has
become apparent that Hughes is run
ming strong ia New York county II
Tammany devOtes too much effort to
beating him, il VIII convict itsei' OF
tTe1Chery to Bryan. and Murphy has
had hundreds OF notifications that if
this IS shown by the returns. he viii
have no following in the mayoTalty
hgh- next year
Want to Hedge.
In the last nervous hours before the
voting. everybody wants TO hedge a bit
II is plainly up to New York today
more plainly than ever before know
positively that Ohio is widely looked
upon in the highest Republican man
ageriaI quarters as lost. Indiana is in
better shape but Democratic claims
have become stronger. since Bryan's
last tour there, on Saturday. On the
most part forecasts today, among dis
interested people, elected Taft by Civ
ing hiEl. New York, cOnceding Ohio 70
Bryan, and making Indiana an even
thing.
The two national chairmen gave some
figures from their State leaders. The
Democratic State chairman claims Ohio
by 800, adding that IL may go 10
$1,000, while the Republican state chair
Tnau says Taft gets the State by not
less than 75,005
Victor Rose-Water, Republican ma
uonal committeeman Cor Nebraska,
wired Hitchcock that Taft will carry
Nebraska by not less than 100Jo. Dave
Mulvane, national committeeman for
Kansas says Taft viii get that State
by not less than 15.000. Senator Scott
wires that West Virginia viii be for
- IT,
state chairman of Illinois, claims the
State by l59,G0. which Chairman Hitch
cock thinks is rather strong. adding
that 10000 VIII satisfy him.
Edward a. Edmonds, Wisconsin chair
man. says TafJs plurality IN the state
will be 100 .00e. based on the final esti-
mates Of the local leaders throughout
the Etate. National Committeeman Muir
ply, of New Jersey, gives his State to
Taft by 5000. and Tom ThOrsou State
q q d M Nal s+ u
publican by 10000. state Chairman Dol
ley, Of Kansas, doubles the Muivaue
figure Of 1900, and says the State IS
safe for $1,000 for Taft.
Claims Montana.
Senator Dixon claims Montana safely
Tor Taft by 900 to 5000; other leaders
In that State make it a little stronger
for Taft. Senator GaIlinger, national
committeeman and Frank ", Esta-
brook. State chairman. both cIaips New
Hampshire by the same figure--l6.OG8
Rhode Island. chairman says The State
is good IOr S.VUV 10 1900 Tor Taft and
Governor Hlll of Maine. national COM
mltteeman, put down $500 as the Pine
Tree States figure.
Nike Keneally. State chairman for
Connecticut claims Nutmegdom by $500
for Taft W r. Andrews. chairman, in
pennsylvania. Is sure of $50 600 for Taft
but hopeful Of doing a great deal better.
-. 0Dl Sc ''e'tiss Siidil man or the
Republican campaign committee Of cali
TOrnla, says the analysis Of all local re-
ports from his State give IL 10 Taa
by 5000; being conservative, he names
5000 as the Taft plurality and Is sure
Of 1T.
Nevada is the most uncertain state.
The Republican leaders there aye verv
hopeful but their claims 90 as low AZ
!, 900 plurality. All the Maryland Re-
publican leaders claim the State. their
estimates run from 5000 10 5000 A p.
Browne. State chairman IN Minnesota
says TAFT viii have 10000 plurality
Frank B. kellogE. national committee
man names the same figure.
81 DO not indC-se these figures in any
sense said Chairman Hitchcock. after
reading the telegrams 'Some. T am
frank to say, / consider too high but ia
no case do i doubt the result will be as
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