The San Francisco call., 1908-03-15

Galiagner refused 10 deal with owing
to the fact that Rea had reported to
the mayor that money was paid to the
supervisors in the prizefght and gas
matter. Ruef admitted he paid Rea the
$4,000. or. at least. put that amount Of
money together, with a further amount
in the concern of Sullivan, 'Rea
d hernlein, for Rea. and intended
TO pay it to him in that way,
and believed Rea SO understood it.
II then left s1l 900 to be accounted for.
also asked Ruef if it wasn't a fact
that in June, 1905. his sister had de-
posted one thousand aud one dollar
notes in the United States National
bank, on the corner of Bush and Fill
more, Immediately under Ruef's Offices
Ruef denied this. / was informed and
believe it as fact however / had
all along expressed the opinion to the
district attorney and Mr. Heney that
this 81 900 might have been stolen from
the relief fund, as we understood that
thousands Of dollars were mailed to the
mayor at San Francisco in dollar bills.
but in the absence of proof and after
asking Ruef whether or not he and
Schmitz got any part of that fund. and
receiving denial from him, ! conclud-
ed that it was possible this $1,000 was
paid by the United Railroads company.
notwithstanding the fact i urged Ruef
again and again. to account for the
$1,000, he refused to do so. / then
asked him IL it was not true that
$4,000 of this money had been paid to
George Keane. This Ruef denied. In
order to clear the matter up, ] inter
viewed James L. Gallagher and he in
sisted positively that $4,000 was paid
TO him and that he had accounted for
every cent of II by stating he had Civ
en- each of the supervisors with the
exception of Rea $4,000. and Andy Will
son and himself receiving respectively
$4,000 and $4,000, making the SIS, ,00e
Gallagher also insisted that Ruef was
lying when he stated that there was
any expense attached to the transact
tion. We subsequently brought Ruef
and Gallagher together at Mr. Heney's
Office, and there Gallagher. in the
presence of Heney and myself, again
stated that he had received $4,000 and
not one cent more. and when Ruef
asked then, What became of this other
s11,000?" Gallagher told him that he
| (Ruef1 got it. Even then Ruef refused
to make any explanation as to what had
become of the money. Ruef also denied
saying TO me in the St Francis hotel:
"FoRD MY BEST FRIEND
My God, can't go against TREY
Ford; he's the best friend 1 ever had.
Ne are just like brothers,"
He continued to deny these two facts
until meeting was held in Mr.. Lang
don's Office at the Grant building about
the 18th day of January. when he then
admitted that his sister might have de-
posted $1,000 in 81 notes and also that
he did use the terms heretofore quoted
concerning Tirey Ford. l am certain
that Ruef was forced to admit the de-
posit of the 1000 81 notes only
after learning we had subpenaed an
eInploye of the bank who would testify
to that fact
At this point l would state that / in
formed Dr. Kaplan that Ruef was not
telling the truth in these matters and
especially as TO the facts in the trolley
case. Ruef kept insisting that he re-
taurants as a fee and also denied that
he had any prior agreement with
Schmitz until he handed him half
the money he had received from the
| French restaurants. DR.. Kaplan then
worked with Ruef and urged and
begged him to tell the truth about all
these matters. but Ruef refused to re-
mapped out and told in the first in
stance.
DIR. kaplan informed me just prior
TO the last Ford trial that he had a
1 conference with Ruef; that he was
satisfied that Ruef would testify very
satisfactorily; that he tRueG would
say that Ford asked him how much
it would take to get the matter
through the board of supervisors; that
Ruef said S250.o00. Ford stated he
would only pay sl50.o00: that they
finally compromised on 100000: that
/ in his direct examination Ruef would
not say anything about attorneys fees;
/ that undoubtedly Ford's attorney would
on cross examination ask him IL he had
not told Ford he wanted that 5000, 600
/ for attorneys fees. that Ruef would
! reply in a very meaning way, Well,
yes. that is what we called it," with
/ great emphasis on the word called"
KAPLAN is ELATED
! DIR. Kaplan seemed greatly elated over
this and was very much disappointed
when l refused to enthuse with him.
I told him that in my opinion it was
absolutely impossible to get Ruef to
tell the whole truth or to be honest
with the prosecution: that I was en-
/ tirely disgusted with it and would have
] nothing to do with him. and l en-
! deavored in every possible way to
demonstrate to DR.. ksplan that Ruef
I was deceiving him. The doctor re-
piled that he wished he could satisfy
himself on that point. l then proceeded
To point out the many discrepancies in
RuefS statements. The doctor. how
ever, refused to be convinced. l
pointed out TO Dr. Kaplan that the
United Railroads was thoroughly con-
versant with everything that ever
transpired between Ruef and the prose
cution and referred to the fact that
Attorney Bert Schlesinger. who repre-
sented T. V Halsey. knew all about
the contents of the immunity contract;
that they also knew of the many argu-
n1ents that ] had had with Ruef in my
efforts to have him make a candid.
/ honest statement. l also pointed out
| to DR.. Kaplan with reference to the
statement of his Office boy, Charlie
Heggerty. that he 6Heggerty) had car
ried a letter from Ruef TO Tirey L.
Ford; that Ruef had made three state
ments concerning this matter. The
first was that he could not remember
of ever sending any such letter; didn't
! think he ever did. The second state
ment was that while he was cleaning
up his desk he found brief connected
! with the United Railroads that be-
longed to Ford and turned it over to
him. His third statement was that
Charlie Heggerty concluded that he
(Heggerty) might be mistaken in his
statement that he carried a letter to