The Aberdeen Democrat. (Aberdeen, South Dakota) 1???-1909, 1908-03-13

Mr.. Loudenslager, removing the part
that prevented competition. Mr.. LII
ley said that he voted for the amend
ment, but that it did not carry. Mr.
Loud udenslager's amendment was adopt
ed, he said. When Mr.. Loud denslager
finished reading his amendment, Cap
tain Hobson said:
THAT means Holland, doesn't it?"
According to MIR. Lilley, Mr.. Lou
denslager replied:
Yes, in effect
MIR. tLoudenslager's amendment, /"
Mr.. Liley said, twas typewritten
and looked familiar to me, remember
ig back year or two when / had
one passed up to me, as If 1t had
been drawn outside Of the naval COM
mittee.''
MIR. Olmsted: .'By whom did It
look as If it had been written?''
MIR. Lilley: 1T has all the ear
marks Of one that Mr.. Kellogg hand
ed me the year before. Marion BuI-
Ter, I think, drew 1t. He is the at
torney for the Electric Boat COM
pany."
Mr.. Olmsted took up In detail the,
question Of the plans for and the
building OF submarine boats, aa.s..
drew from Mr. Ililley the statement
that in his opinion both the Octopus
and Lake boats are an obsolete type.
The point raised in Mr.. Lilley's state
ment regarding the excessive profits
to the Electric Boat company was
gone into and Mr.. Lilley said he
would produce evidence from naval
officers confirming that statement. A
discussion arose between Mr.. Olmsted
and Mr.. ,Lilley over that portion of
Mr.. Lilley's statement relating TO
newspaper correspondents and the
part they have taken in creating
what Mr.. Lilley termed Sentiment
for submarines" particularly one for
the Pacific Coast. WHILE" he said,
"I have no direct testimony to offer
!, on that subject, I am told that they
(the Electric Boat company have
men who attend the meetings of
boards of trade, chambers of COM
imerce, etc., and who get up in their
meetings and make addresses on the
Of the Pacific Coast
and fear that the Japanese will be
over on the next boat and thus get
resolutions passed instructing their
congressmen to vote for a large num-
ber Of submarines as the best means
!of protecting them from invasion. I
think 1T Is reprehe hensible conduct on
1.-THE part of the company to hire law
yers and newspaper men to go about
land create war scares and work
j Through boards Of trade and chambers
Iof commerce to bring pressure to
.lbear on the members Of the house to
vote the governments money for
their boats"
Mr. Lilley said he could only name
two newspaper men tzsih st.=zssihi1s i1s time who
had worked for the Electric Boat
I company and he gave the names OF
i the two, who, he said, had admitted
Ihaving worked for the company.
. Mr.. Lilley was asked by Mr.. Ohm
lated to give the names Of attorneys
I employed in the Electric Boat com
|pany In the districts Of the members
|of the naval affairs committee.
John Kellogg he replied. sol
waterbury. In Mr.. sperry's district
land w. D. Gordon OF MiddleYille, II
|lMr. Loud's district. have also been
! told Of lawyer In Texas in Mr.
4 |Gregg's district" !"
Hobson Takes Stand.
il Mr.. Lilley was excused temporarily
I land Representative Richmond p
IHobson was called. After Mr.. Hob.
son had been sworn. he stated tina,
Ihe preferred that the questions bt
asked him rather than that he make
a statement. Questioned by Mr.. Ohm
lstead he said that he made a state.