The morning journal-courier. (New Haven, Conn.) 1907-1913, 1908-03-13
HOBSON TESTIFIES
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mittee. Mr. Lilley said Mr.. Padgett
tried to have an amendment attached
to the provision offered by Mr.. Loud
enslager, the part that prevented COM
petition. Mr.. Lilley said he voted for
that amendment, but it did not carry.
Mr.. Loudenslager's amendment was
adopted, he said When Loudenslager
finished reading his amendment, Cap
tain HObson said:
That means Holland, doesn't it,"
According to Mr.. Lilley, Mr.. Louden-
slayer replied, Yes. in effect" THE
Loudenslager amendment" Mr.. Lilley
said, was typewriter and looked very
familiar to me. remembering back a
year or two when l had one passed up
to meas if it had been drawn outside
of the naval committee"
Mr.. Olmsted: by whom did it look
as if 1t had been written?"
Mr.. Lilley: 1T had all the earmarks
.of one that Mr. Kellogg handed me
year before Marion Butler, l think.
drew 1t. He is an attorney for the
Electric Boat CO.
MIR. Olmsted took up in detail the
question of plans for and the building
of submarine boats and drew from LII
ley the statement that, in his opinion,
both the Octopus and Lake boats are
OF an obsolete type The point raised
in AIR. Lilley's statement regarding cx-
cessiye profits by the Electric Boat Co
was gone into. and Mr.. Lilley said he
would produce evidence from naval Of
ficers confirming that statement.
A lengthy discussion arose between
Mr.. Olmsted and Mr.. Llley over that
portion of Mr., Lilley's statement relat-
ing to newspaper correspondents, and
the part they have taken in creating
what Mr.. Lilley termed a sentiment for
submarines, particularly on the Pacific
coast
While l have no direct testimony"
he said, TO offer on that subject, I
am told that they (the Electric Boat
company, have men who attend meet
ings of the boards of trade, chambers
of commerce, etc, who get up in their
meetings and made addresses on the
unpreparedness of the Pacific coast
and the fear that the Japanese will be
over on the next boat, and thus get
resolutions passed instructing their
congressman to vote for large num-
Der OF submarines as the best means
of protecting them from invasion.
think 1t is reprehensible conduct on
the part of the company to hire law
yers and newspaper men to go about
and create war scares and work the
boards Of trade and chambers of COM
merce to bring pressure to bear on
members of the house to vote the gov
ernment's money for their boats"
Mr.. Lilley said he would give the
names OF only two newspaper men at
the present time. who worked for the
Electric Boat company. He gave the
names of the two who, he said, admit
ted having worked for the company.
Mr.. Lilley insisted that If the. COM
mittee would call the witnesses whose
names he had given II would ascertain
that great many such men were en-
ployed and that a great deal of money
had been spent in that way. THE air
is full Of IT," he said.
Mr.. Lilley was asked by Mr.. DIM
sted to give the names Of ATTORNEYS
employed by the Electric Boat com
pany in districts Of members of the
naval affairs committee.
John Kellogg he replied, of wa
terbury. in Mr.. Sperrys district. and
w d, Gordon of Midvale. Mich, In Mr..
LIQUIDS district ! have also been told
of lawyer in Texas in Mr.. Gregg's
district | think his name Is Cow
herd | do not think Of any more at
present, hut If you will call these wit
nesses ] am satisfied in my own mind
that you will discover more. There are
few members of that committee, I
believe they have given up. | do not
think you will unravel any In Mr..
Moss district nor in Mr.. Hobson's nor
in that of Mr. Padgett. The Electric
| company has attorneys in New York
city where Mr.. Olcott lives. I do NOT
know whether they are in his district
Frost and Johnson live there. and |
have been told Of others hut / have
forgotten their names"
During his examination in this sub
/ ject Mr. Lilley mentioned the fact that
he. consulted ex-senator Thnrston of
this city. who is the attorney here for
the Lake Submarine Boat companv.
but, he insisted that that gentleman
did not formulate his CLilley's)
charges.
Mr., Olmsted was insistent In his
questioning which led Mr. Lilley 10 ask
about the pertinence of the ouestions
Il understand that / am not on tria,
here continued Mr.. Lllley "and how
does II affect the investigation of the
Electric Boat company as 10 where I
got information or whom counselled
WITH"
Mr.. Olmsted-"We may be investigat-
ing two companies before We get
through. We want to get aat the bot
tom of this matter"
Mr.. Lilley-"So far as I am concern.
ed l would be willing to incorporate IN
my resolution that you investigate two
or ALL If the Lake company is pur-
suing similar methods to the Electric
Boat company, | will introduce a res
! olution to have them investigated"