The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1908-12-16
FIRST BATTLE
LOST IN HOUSE
Gardner Could Not Muster
Enough Republican Votes
to Change Rules.
ONLY TWENTY CAME OVER
RULING OF SPEAKER CANNON
SUSTAINED BY 10 MAJORITY.

Washington. Dec. 15.-The hopes Of
the so-called insurgents in the house of
representatives for a revision of the
rules of that body were dissipated, for
the time being at least, when Mr.. Card
ner of Massachusetts today failed to OBJ
tain the adoption of an amended reso-
luton calling for the appointment of a
committee of eight to consider the sub
ject and report to congress what they
deem necessary. A substantial ma
jOnty of the house voted to take away
from the committee on foreign affairs
consideration of the resolution which in
its original form simply called for in
formation from the secretary of state
regarding what the British house of
commons had done in that regard. A
ruling by the speaker that the amend =
ment of Mr. Gardner changed the char
acter of the resolution in such a way
as to not make it privileged was sus-
tanned and the resolution then was laid
on the table.
After passing some bills relating to
the District of Columbia, the remainder
of the day was taken up with the bill
10 revise the penal laws of the United
States, which was considered at length
during the last session.
Mir. Gardeners Motion Prevailed.
At the outset of the proceedings the
roll was called. on motion by Mr..
Gardner Republican. Massachusetts,,
to discharge the committee on foreign
affairs from further consideration of
the resolution calling on the secretary
of state for a statement as to whether
he has in his possession information as
10 whether or not the British house of
commons has appointed committee 10
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its rules. and that the resolution be con-
sidered by the house.
The motion of Mr.. Gardner prevailed
las TO 154-and thereupon he offered
an amendment eliminating all reference
10 the demand on the secretary of state
for information and leaving in the re-
solution simply provision for the APP
pointment of eight members to report
on the question of revising the rules.
Point of Order Raised.
Messrs. Payne New York; and Dali
zell (Pennsylvania) were quickly on
their feet with points Of order. both in
sisting that as a portion of the resOlu-
ton would be stricken out. the reSolu-
ton no longer was privileged. Against
that contention Mr.. Gardner vigorous
ly arranged himself. and he cited sew
eral precedents to support his argu-
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raid Democrat. New York; upheld the
contention of Mr.. Gardner
In IN elaborate opinion, the speaker
sustained Messrs. DaIzeT and Payne.
helding that the character of the resO-
lution had been changed in such a way
as to render it non-privileged.
Appeal Tabled.
Mr.. Gardner promptly appealed, but,
alert to the Importance of the PROPOSE
ton. Mr. Payne moved 10 lay the APP
peal on the table. and on that motion
a roll call was forced.
By vote of yeas 149, noes 1876. pres
ent four, the speaker was sustained
Twenty Republican voted against the
speaker as follows: Boyd (Neb.), Camp
bell CKan.), Caulfield (Mo). Cooper,
CTis). Davis (Minn.). Ellis CMoO,
Fowler On. j., Gardner (Mass.). GrOnn
IN. d., Rowland (O), Hubbard CIV.
Na), Lindberg (Minn-O, Mckinley
(CaI.), Madison CKan), Nelson (Ninn-),
Nye (Minn), Pearre CMdO, Poland
CNeb.), Sturgiss CIV. Va, Volstead
(Minn).
The resolution then. on motion of Mr..
Gardner. after he had further attacked
the rules of the house. was laid on the
table-137 to (which has the effect OF
killing the whole proposition.