The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1908-12-21
land would be in the same condition

| land would be in the same condition
| in seven years.
! frequently referred to in the questions
! asked of Mr.. Carnegie Reference
was made particularly TO a statement
/ that the duty on steel could be taken
| off as fast as the steel corporation Is
concerned, and Mr.. Carnegie said this
] portion should be accepted by the
| committee. An argument was pre-
clp1tated by this statement between
claiming that Judge Gary did not say
the duty could be removed on all steel
products, and Mr.. Cochran on the
other hand claiming that Judge Gary S
testimony was to that effect.
Could Stand Some Free Trade.
Judge Gary has summarized the
facts for YOU" said Mr.. Carnegie,
6 and 1 should depend on them. He
has told you that they don't need the
duty. If the cost of steel rails has in
here you will find Judge Gary's
statement quite true and that he
could stand free trade"
Judge Gary had testified that the
price is as high abroad" said Chair
man Paye. Then does not that show
that you have nothing to fear from
free trade q" was the prompt re-
joinder. Mr.. Carnegie was questioned
at length regarding the cost of pro-
ducing Steel but the witness de-
differ on that question. The steel
business he said, was a business by
itself, and the cost to one man was a
very different thing from the cost to-
another.
when gentleman of Judge Gary's
character" he said, comes to you and
tells you he does not know tariff,
you ought to believe him"
He insisted in reply to questions by
Mr.. Bonygne that the railways We're
not paying too much for steel rails.
The steel rail makers he thought
were making a fair profit.
How about other steel products
besides steel rails? % Mr.. Boyngne in
quired
Il have not word to say Mr..
Carnegie replied. That's out of my
province"
Is Gary a E'SIeek Article
Mr.. Ford recited the testimony of
Mr.. Schwab and was interrupted by
Mr.. Carnegie with the remark that
He is a genius" Breaking in upon
a Scotch story which Mr.. Carnegie re-
lated and in the course of which the
witness mentioned the name of Judge
Gary, Mr.. Carnegie asked if it was in
tended to characterize Mr.. Gary as
"sIeek article"
''Oh. no. said Mr. Carnegie, ION the
contrary. he is a most lovable man. 1t
means that he is shrewd. 1t means
that ne has a delightful, sweet nature"
would you recommend an income
tax to make up the deficit in the reVe-
nues?'' Mr.. Fordney asked.
Il believe" replied Mr.. Carnegie,
with Mr.. Gladstone, who has had
more experience with the income tax
than any man of his day-that an in.
come tax makes a nation of liars Or
Ali the denoralizing taxes that nation
can impose upon the people, the income
tax is the worst. %,
You agree with Gladstone in that?"
interjected Chairman Payne,
Il do" the steel magnate replied
Carnegie Is Epigramnatic.
$50 do t. said the chairman. IF
YOU want to do harm with money give
it away to those people who VIII not
struggle for themselves" was one OF
the numerous epigrams Frightening
Mr.. Carnegie's unique testimony.
THAT applies to the tariff on steel
he added. "I think the man who can
make three or four dollars more pront
than lazy, inert corporation manage
ment. should be allowed to make that
his countrys good,' was
an opinion expressed by Mr.. Carnegie
when being questioned with regard 10
to what he considered reasonable
Dealing largely in generalities. Mr.:
Carnegie said he wanted it understood
that his statements represented ms
opinion solely. He said that he came
before the committee because sum- |
moned and that he gave his testimony
because he thought it his duty as an
American citizen.
We Can Beat the World
ct did not volunteer it, he said.
Pressed with questions from all sides
Mr. Carnegie arose from his seat and
dramatically declared that "he was a
protectionist."
= q desire' he said. ito furnish to the
consumer a cheaper supply and a more /
regular supply than he could get abroad
and if after 40 years experience we can
not develop steel with that condition |
our protective policy in that instance
would have been a failure instead of the
triumphant success it has become.
Pointing his finger at the committee
and raising his voice to its highest pitch
he declared that the steel industry was
now in the position where it can say:
Take your protection. We are
now men and we can beat the world /
in the manufacture of steel.
There is no reason for the tariff
on steel,' he again emphasized You
should not coddle the industry with
protection"
A recess at this point was ordered, |
Mr. Cargenie inQuiring if the COM |
mittee was through with him.
NO came chorus of voices.
This is cruel" remarked the steel
magnate as he retired from the room. |