The Montgomery advertiser., 1908-03-13

would throw good deal of light on the subject
 We proposed to dig as deep as any of these submarine boats dig" said | Mir. Olmsted
 That won't be very far" replied Mir Lilley, amid laughter. Hobson on the stand. Mir. Lilley was excused temporarily and Representative Richmond P. Hob son was called. | Questioned by Mir. Olmsted. MT. Hob son said that he made statement to MT. Lilley something Ike that to which Mir Lilley had testified.
 Did some person claiming to be a representative of the Electric Boat Company approach you in the manner indicted?'' asked Mir. Olmsted "Yes. sir" e
 "who was the partyg'' Lawrence Speer of New York. It was in November last. Mir Speer saw my secretary first and few lays later called me up on the telephone. .nd 1t was over the telephone that he spoke to me directly. He had previously written me. stating that there W, q matter of mutual interest about which he wished to confer with me. and I re- piled that l would be glad to confer with him. He said over the telephone HupbldnIldlIy InaI 1e uHQcTStOOu Il wanted to go on the Naval Committee, and that his company would be able to help me--had influence to bring that about--if I stood right on submarines"
 MT. olmsted-Did he say influence with whom?
 Mir. Hobson--Yes. sir.
 MT. olmsted-Whom did he say?
 Mir. Hobson--I would rather not state that unless you insist.
 Mir. olmsted-We would like to have you state 1t.
 MT. Hobson--He said the Speaker.
 "LOok Out for Wiliiams."
 Mir. Hobson furth CT said that Mir. Speer had informed him that he would have to Hook out for Williams" the minority leader. "
 MT. Olmsted--The idea was that if you secured the support of MT. Williams they would do the rest,
 MT. Hobson--Yes. sir; they would use the.r influence to have me placed on the committee.
 MT. Olmsted-I understand that the naming of the Democratic members of the committee was left to Mir. Williams by the Speaker. If he was in your favor, you would not have much diff ficulty with the Speaker?
 Mir. Hobson--I had some ideas on the subject except in exceptional cases, that the Speaker would abide by the recommendations of the minority leader.
 MT. olmsted-You were not one of the exceptional cases, were you, MT. Hobson7
 Mir. Hobson--I did not see any req son why should be.
 Mir. Olmsted-You were appointed by the Speaker on the recommendation of Mir. Williams?
 Mir. Hobson--I think so.
 Mir. Olmsted-You did not require Speers's aid or that of any one else?
 MT. Hobson-That is a question l cannot answer.
 MT. Olmsted-Your appointment on the Naval Committee was obtained in the usual way?
 Mir. Hobson-I made an official ap- plication to Mir. Williams and to the Speaker, and think that was all. I do not remember having urged my case to the minority leader and do not know whether any of my friends did so; but 1t was known by them gener- ally that I wanted that Committee. I told MT. Speer that did not want the influence that his company had. and I made no promise to support any naval proposition he might have to offer.
 speer is HOhsOn's Friend.
 Mir. Hobson said that he had seen Mir. Speer since this conversation occurred anu HI EGplJ tO question pronounced by Mir. Littleton said that he and Speer had been class mates at Annapolis and that they belonged to the same corps in the navy. Their relations had been cordial
 This ended Mir Hobson's examination and Mir. Lilley was recalled. He was questioned by Mir olmsted regarding the statement he made to the Commit- tee that he was being shadowed by detectives
 "I have had very large number of men shadowing me since the reso- lution was introduced" said Mr. LiIley "One man has been standing near my door daily in this office building and two more usually at the entrances Frequently l have run into three here. At the hotel there have never been less than three, so the house detective tells me. The detective stationed at the House of Representatives says there have been at least six in there. I did not protest against this proceeding until they began to shadow the mem bers of my family and Major Sylvester. Chief of Police here, told me he would have them arrested if l so desired
 My only object in having the detec- tives summoned was to tell the com mittee who was hiring them. I think it comes from one source. President Rice of the Electric Boat Company says he welcomes an investigation, and proceedings immediately to put men to shadowing me. I suspect that is where they come from; but the annoy ance has passed and personally I do not care anything about it.
 Gregg Challenges LiIIey.
 Shortly before the committee ad- journed, Congressman Gregg, of Texas, came into the room and desired to ask a number of questions of Mir. Lilley. Chairman Boutell told him he would better take the stand and after being sworn MT. Gregg said
 "I had no idea of appearing as a witness but I was told that Mir LilIey said there was an attorney from my district representing this company here in Washington. That Is made out of the whole cloth. There is not a particle of truth on it."
 In reply to a question by MT. Brous- sard Mir. Gregg said there was no at torney named Coward living in his dis trict
 There was an attorney named Cow a rd renresentinR the Dallas Commer-