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ing about the Ruef matter. and / re-
member in the course of the conver-
satioe he said: Rogers. / don't think
they tmeaning the grand jury) can
touch me, but / am afraid of that book
of yours-destroy il, get rid OF it 4
said: I viii not destroy 1t, but you
can do as you like about it-there are
other keys to the commissary than
mine. Anyway, / have my notes. You
can destroy that book il you want 70,
but it won't do any good Then ]
said to him: When you told me TO 90
business with Julian you told me TO
have implicit confidence in. him, and
YOU did not want me TO keep any tab
on him. Why did you tell me to have
implicit confidence in Julian? Why
didn't YOU tell me what kind of man
he (Julian) wasT Then / asked Frank
about the discrepancies in the different
bills, and / remember Schmitz jumped
Up and said: II ] fall Shook shall fall,
too. BY God, I have done no wrong.
II those bills have been stuffed l had
nothing to do with it
OFFERS A BRIBE
The next morning he came into the
commissary and. said he hadn't slept
all night for thinking about the stuff
ing Of the bills I had told him about.
At about 3 o'clock that afternoon ne
came into the commissary again and
said: Z was down to see Ed Williams
at Snook's, and he was disposed TO ride
rough shod over me. but while / was
talking to Williams Shook called me
to one side and said that Williams was
crazy and that I should pay no at
tention to him. Then he said to me:
Here. Schmitz, here is $500 toward the
reception fund for the return of the
mayor. and here is $500 additional You
can throw that in the street If you
like. Do what you want with It. Then
Schmitz said to me. putting his hand in
his pocket. Here, / will give II to you
But 1 said. What do 1 want with s5oo?'
Then he said: viii give it to you
and you can turn Il over TO the recep-
ton committee But / didn't take 1t
and told him that ! did not want to
have anything to do with the money,
and I thought no more about the mat
ter. The next morning about O'Clock
I had to go up to the office with some
orders and ] saw Currie there Currie
said TO me: What do you think OF
that fellow Cmeaning Schmitz)2 he
told me he offered you $500
and you refused 1t. In reply 1 said: J
refuse to answer Then currie said
I will put Il differently: He offered
the money TO an employe. ] answered
If he told you that, he was very IN
discreet
sCurrie then said: Mr. Rogers, what
are YOU going TO do in case the
grand jury investigates this matter !
Suppose they send for you and ask
questions concerning the situation
here. are you going 10 tell them every
thing?
Il said: No. Mr.. Currie. I will re-
fuse TO answer. I do not think it any
II my business to talk to the grand
Jury, I would never say anything 10
them, as it has always been my Gus
ton to consider anything overhead as
q professional secret; but, what / viii
10 is this. when the mayor returns
nome I shall go TO him. as he appoint
d me. and offer him my resignation
md at the same time demand the
esignation OF his brother, Frank
;chnlitz. as superintendent OF the aims
aouse.'
CHMITZ OFFERS TO LEAVE
IN regard to that $500, Currie told
ne that he had said to Schmitz: 'Wna'
we're you thinking OF. Frank? Don't yoJ
know that is bribery? They could senc
YOU to the states prison for that
After that talk with Currie ! wen
down the hall, and on thinking II oVe'
I began to get suspicious. 1t secme'
TO me that they We're trying TO max
a catspaw out of me. ] went righ
over and saw my son about ii and n
advised me TO resign. When 1 got bacl
10 the almshouse again, after I hal
written out my resignation and maile
one Of them to DR.. Ward and had an
other copy in my pocket to hand Z
Frank Schmitz, Frank tried to smootl
me down. He wanted me TO stay ther
and said he would fix up q buggy 70
me to use. When ! handed him M
resignation Schmitz was very muc'
disturbed about it and even offered [
leave the almshou himself
After my resignation 1 called on tn
mayor upon his return from Europe, t
explain why 1 had resigned from tn
almshouse. and I gave him the entir
story as to the situation out there. TIL
mayor appeared to be surprised, bu
he had nothing much to say about it.
"One day Currie brought my pa
over to me and asked him ho'
things We're going on. and he sal
Schmitz had said TO him: 'Currie, whs
are you going to do II the grand jur
comes out? And Currie said TO hin
I suppose / viii have 10 lie for yol
bur not under oath
Il remember on one occasion Cler
McGanny came TO me and said that "