The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1908-10-30

! Go right on. Tell your story
AIR. Kelly. the first. time that l
saw him-his testimony is practically
correct that he testified to.
tail. men we won soih' 'na' - Oe
| Ais testimony. with the excep-
tion of some-might be-the changing
testimony was correct. considered 1t
| was all right. The upshot of the mat
ter was that Mr.. Kelly. the first. time,
refused to entertain anything of that
kind. and refused to do it. The. first
time | met him he was only offered
5000. | only offered him $500. but in
! the meantime he said he would think
! It over and I would see him the NEXT
DAY think it was the next day SO
then he said he wanted $1,000 So then
l reported-then he acgniesced; he
ported back to- Mr.. Murphy that Mr.:
Kelly would accept the $1,000. That
practically settled the matter.
Q-Then you were arrested, We're you
not. A.-YeS, that was In September.
FURNISHED WITH LAWYER
Own you state who it was that
secured your lawyers for you? A.
Well, l don't know who secured my
lawyers, but my attorney came to me
and presented himself at the jail. Mr..
Schooler said that he was going to
represent me, and he said that he came
from mutual friend. who l afterward
LOuiiO Oul was Murphy ana New
Q.-Did you ever know Mr.. Schooler
before. A.-No, / never met him.
Odd you know your bondsmen?
sA.-No, / never met them.
Q.-Haven't met them yet? Do you
know who procured your bondsmen for
you? A.-Well. Mr.. Schooler was in
strumental, and l had to report to that
building-the court building-and they
had to address the court and make ar
rangements for the bond.
Q--SubSequent to your arrest did
you have any conversation with Muir
ply or Newhurgh concerning what they
your being convicted, or anything OF
that kind? A.-Oh, yes.
Q.-Just state to the court what was
said by them in that regard, subsequent
TO your arrest and prior to your con-
viction.. A.-Sabsequent to my arrest
and prior to my conviction? During
that interval?
Q.-What did Murphy or Newburgh,
or either of them, say to you? A.
Well, they said that they would-pre-
ylous to my conviction? A.-4es. A
Well. they said that they would do
everything they could for me; that
they would-that 1 need not worry;
that they would provide for me and
provide for my wife in case I was
convicted.
Odd you pay your lawyers, or did
they pay them, If they were paid?
A.-Well, l haven't paid my attor-
neys as yet, with the exception that
oCHOOl6I--1 turned over 10 llIIl
lease that l had on some Market
street property. 1 had it, 1t was in
allegiance; the lease was in allegiance.
turned it over to Mr.. Schooler. and
he meant that he would want that as
some-I don't know whether he con-
sidered it as compensation or not. He
asked me the value of It and | told
him $500. have never paid Mr..
Schooler or Mr.. Lindsay anything.
Q.-After your conviction did you
have any conversation with Murphy
or Newburgh? A.-No. sir, had a
conversation with Mr.. Murphy-not Mr..
Newburgh.
Q.-What was the general nature Of
that conversation? A.--The general ma
ture of the conversation after my con-
viction was they did not think l would
that | had good ground for new
trial.
grounds for new trial? A.-They
said, When we get up into the higher
court it will be thrown out" or some
thing of that kind, and then they pro-
vided a fund of money which was to
Q-what did they tell you about that
fund of money? What did they say
after that. Mr.. Blake? Allow do you
mean?
Q.-How much money were you to
get? Al was to get $4,000.
Q.-For what? What were you to get
that sic, 1000 for? A.-Well. 1 was to
my wife would
On other words A.-She was to
be provided for. She was to get s1oQ
The Court-How?
WAS TO GET $4,000
A-To be taken care of when 1 was
convicted, you know.
Q.-During your incarceration? A.
Yes, and l was to have the 100000
Mr.. Langdon. Q.-Who told you he
would give you $4,000? A-Mr. Muir
ply.
Q.-What did he say? Just tell US
what he said about that A.-The
money was to be placed in the hands
of a third party, who | would select,
provided the one 1 selected would be
satisfactory to them and they felt they
something of that kind That $4,000
was to be turned over to me immedi-
ately upon my sentence-just as soon
as my sentence was passed the money
was to be turned over.
Q.-As soon as the court sentenced
you you would receive the $4,000 that
Murphy put into the hands of this
third person2 Ayes.
Odd he tell you what kind of
money it was, or what representative
value it was. Did he show you any
of that? Did Murphy show you any
thing? Ayes. he showed me $500.
but he did not show me the $4,000
that was put into the hands of the
party that I selected He told me that
he had 1t.
Q-what was this $500 that Muir
ply showed you? In what form or
shape? AIN notes.
Q-Promissory notes? A.-Yes
Q--Signed by who? Assigned by
abraham Ruef? A-Yes.
Q-Who else signed them. if any
one? A.-They were Endorsed by his
father and sister.
Oils father?
The Court-Promissory notes to you
from Abraham Ruef. and indorsed?
NOTE SIGNED BY RUFF
A.-The promissory notes. your hon.
or, were made out to Mr.. Murphy. and
he was to turn these over TO the third
party, Endorsed. l presume, to the third
party. who I might select The notes
read, One year after date / promise
to pay to Frank ]. Murphy" that is
the way the notes read.
Q.-And signed? A.-And signed bv
Mr. Ruef. and then they were counter
signed or Endorsed by his father and
sister.
Mr.. Langdon-By his sister. Mrs.
Seidenfelt? Al don't remember the
name, but l read them to satisfy my
self, you know. You can see the sig
M thn~