New-York tribune., 1908-03-28
MR.JEROME GETSANGRY
KING CHARGES HE4RING.
L. f. Julian Tells of Metropolitan
Jury Bribinc.


There were several stormy periods during the sec
rd session yesterday of the investigation of charges
made by William e King against District Attorney
Jerome ana conducted before ex-Chief Judge An
drews. The audience room of the Public Service
Commission the Tribune Building was well filled
when the proceedings were opened with the calling
20 the stand OF Justice Samuel Seabury. OF the
Supreme Court
Justice Seabury's evidence was interesting. but
The real stir came with the summoning of l. E
Julian. for more than years chief investigator
of the legal department Of the Metropolitan Street
Railway Company. Julian was expected TO throw
lizht on the charges made by William H Tilling-
hast self-confessed jury briber and Jury swing
er" who had related his alleged operations al the
arst hearing Of the charges on Thursday.
TuIian started the bau rolling. and before Frank
In Pierce counsel for the King committee had
finished extracting testimony Mr. Jerome, Nho
appeared as his own counsel. had not only grown
,ed and possibly angry, hut had asked many que9-
tons. Julian said that in 1894 he overheard d
conversation between Ambrose F McCabe ana
Stanley S Bagg. Of the Metropolitan legal bureau
in which TllIinghast's lame was mentioned ana
that there argument as TO how nuch ne
should be paid McCabe wanted 10 pay MN %
and Bagg stood for what he said was the
srreed r-ice 81 A corlTrol Use was reached at sO
and an 20 X slip was sent TO Tlllinghast accord
ing 70 The witness. When Mr. Julian went INTO
rhe details Of vising slips Mr- Jerome Jumped up
and asked him whether all these details hau oeeA
.-,-,,,-t,a-s.5 10 the District Attorneys office
Yes. al you've listened TO, Mr. Jerome replied
Julian
T,,3s,, f,,r-Fe- testified that Bagg didn't want TO
- -ba facts in the alleged jury brlbing 10 the
- ,--o--4v but preferred 10 give them to
Tic >.u- York American" Mr.. Pierce wanted TO
,-,o. ne reason for this preference, and Julian
,s.,s,a5 I'D rather not say, unless I'm Obliged
= ., ,e remarked Mr. jerome smiled wanly and
- l,a-d like 10 hear the reason
well remarked Julian ''Bagg said that it was
- ,,se taking the matter the District Attorney,
&c -be pulv result would be that Mr Jerome would
Co-7biDe with the Metropolitan Street Railway Com
-,anv and make trouble for him Jerome. he SAID
f7sd been working hand in glove with the Metro
-,olitan since Ie02-snce the dismissal OF colonel
NJ Jerome flushed a bit and seemed to be on
-he noinr Of saying something. His opportunity
oz-,e : few minutes later, when Julian was asked
= indictments brought against himself and TWO
others for subornation OF perjury had been dropped
NJ Jerome grinned and in hoarse whisper re-
marked: Show him those indictments and lei MN
see they were not dismissed
Jrlisn went on 10 say that during the Jerome IL
dependent campaign for the Office OF District At
ro-ney he had called the Jerome campaign head
quarters and told Secretary John A henneoeFrs
that there professional juror scIlTS on NaI--
ms raneIs Illegally for the Metropolitan Henne-
bs--v Oh October q 1895. wrote 10 him. saying he
should lay the facts before Jerome JuAah con-
ri-ued by saying that during the week between
telling EIenneberry and hearing from him he had
To release himself from this obligation he paid
back to the newspaper his retainer" and then
went 10 the District Attorneys Office where N SIX
O. seven interviews he said he told all he knew OF
the alleged jury bribing tc Assistant District Al
I0rney SmyIh-
NJ Pierce announced that he had made motion
II The Court OF General Sessions 10 obtain the
minutes Of grand jury during the period OF the
insurance Investigations. as he wished 10 take up
to-day the charges numbered - and - Mr.
-7es~sa
II session then nothing had been done IN the IN
s1-ance matters Ex-Judge Andrews however Is
sued the subpoena before continuing the nearing
until 10 o'clock this morning
Trsrfce Seabury testified that during the period
covered by the TfIlinghast charges he was a judge
IN the City Court He identified correspondents
between himself and Nj jerome regarding eVl-
6ence IN the TIIinghast matter He said he met MI
Jerome and Assistant District Attorney Mott Al
luncheon and discussed the Tillinghast charges
generally" Mr.. Jerome had promised 10 help
him he said and afterward said he had secured
ne attendance OF Stanley BaGg- NJ. JeTon9 ula
-.ot crosse xamine Justice Seaburyt but simply
asked him TO identify the minutes IN the case OF
Ambrose aIcCabe. 3 Metropolitan lawyer, when
Justice Seabury was sitting a. a magistrate N
General Sessions Chambers in March, 1896
NJ Pierce next read the statement Of IlIlnEEaSt.
made 10 Assistant District Attorney SInyth, on Oc-
7o+a- . 7es This long account Of alleged jury
Juggling was interrupted from time 70 time ~ OBJ
sections from M jerome. who said that the names
G. certain lawyers should not be dragged into The
case
Co-ro5ora1io7 OF TiIlinEhast's story was sought
through z couple Of witnesses Frank . t7yrIe al
Ire Office q The Commissioner o. Jurors read from
+a rco-5 10 show that in 1903 and 1901 TllInghast
v-ss on the panel OF the Supreme Court and the
C-r court a Z Woodruff. q lawyer OF No III
F3--s5vav testified that in 1856 he introduced q
resolution before the State Bar Association calling
for investigation Of the Metropolitan and jury mat
ra-s on r-oss-exarniration Mr Woodruff said that
7he source Of mis- information about The alleged
s---s -r FAIRS n -he -.AIet'' was L Z Julian