Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-08-29
Offered $1,000.

q. Did you not on one occasion
after thc first talk about tic $4,000
have another talk with the Sheriff
about the 100000 matter? 4. That
was during this conversation the End
OF June, when Townsend said the
Sheriff wanted $500 and Then offer.
cdslOOD.Oo, ! said then sl5G0.00 was
too much could Offer SloDG.0O right
away then. but would not give $500.
90 and | told him In a way would
consult with my friends. bit | did
not go ana see him any more.
O. Did you have any talk Of any
kind with the Sheriff himself! A.
No. ! didn't have any further talk
with the Sheriff himself sinae the
first meeting because the Sheriff told
me that the whole matter could hi
arranged between Townsend AMI my.
self. and that ! could got The SApgiGs
answer through Townsend.
q. So thcn you only had one 'a!;
with the Sheriff himself about f.? q.
Only once.
@. Ana thlt was cI the 2Sth Of
| May? 4. Yes.
O. These rooms that you were
renting up there. is rooms. they were
! all rooms that were built and used
for the purposes Of prostitution, were
/ they not? A. Anybody can rent the
house.
q. Yes, but they were built for the
purposes Of prostitution. were they
not? A. do not know that-it was
already built when ] rented it.
@. That had been used up TO The
time Iwilei was closed for the pur.
poses of prostitution. were they not?
! A. Mixed, some were prostitutes and
Others were laborcrs.
Q. Won were acting in these
negotiations with the SheriI for your.
self and iOr these women who asked
you to - to the Sheriff and see IL
iwilei could not be opened up. were
you not? A. Not only for the selfish
purposes, but | thought the prOsti.
tutes--if lwiiei should be closed the
prostitutes would go into the town
and evil would not be lesscned nj all
and thought Il was better that they
he segregated at Iwilei. and as ! was
interested In the women / thought |
would work for IT,
Q. About how many Of the womCn
requested you to see the Sheriff? A.
Only two or three. they came To me
several times and urged me to work
for II. About that time ! had made
up my mind 10 go into some other
business, but at their repeated re-
quest ! thought I would 90 and see
The Sheriff.
Q. who was the lease assigned
to by you? \. ! assigned the proper
~ to Umcda since the 18th Of July
last.
q. You received no interest for
the loan of 500 TO the Sheriff, did
you? a. No interest and no security.
q And you deducted nothing from
the principal amount IN turning the
amount over to the Sheriff or Town
send? A. The same amount OF $780,
90 was turned over to the Sheriff and
received back afterwards
q. what was your object in loan.
ing the Sheriff $4,000 without inter.
est and without security? A. Town.
send came over and asked me to
make loan because the Sheriff was
in trouble-flnlncial trouble.
q. And you did IL MS personal
favor tn the Sheriff? A. Yes.
@. You never had loaned him any
money before? A. No.
q. Have you loaned him any ever
since? a. No that was the only
occasion.
q. And have You made any pres.
ents to the Sheriff since Christmas
or any other time? A. No, that was
all. only at that Christmas time.
q. Have you ever testified TO tho
Grand Jury before in this Iwilel mat
ter? a. Yes.
q. And in rcglrl TO the note? a,
. Yes. IN regard 80 TIE siCo loan and
also the sl50O.OO
Q. You did not testify before the
Grand Jury that You yourself had 9
talk with Iaukea person2!,y abnIt ,hs
D.. IO'o and about the 1880 ag,cs
this first conversation OF May 2Sth
= "A. No, | did not say anything OF the
kind there never happened such an
J occasion.
q. Tho same stD.y you toll the
Grand Jury Is the same as yOu are
telling here? a. Wen the story &
long aud my he little complicated
but that ted tharp w07 grbgt rntifl
" the same, something me- have
been omitted there. | hal Il state
ment prepared which appeared in the
! Hawaii SEinpo toe story Is write
ont in order nr tho dH;ys an th2t ".
tie correct statement
e. You prepared au wrote t'at
/ story yourself did you? No ! made
/ n verbal statement an OgilO VIII,
Is my clerk, wrote II out
q. How did y1u haDpen 20 maxi
and publish thnt statement? 4,
, thought of making thc statement be
! cluso-'on account OF tie ri90 noe
; having become kaUwl rG ihr pUb,ic
ilukoa blamed HCcim' mi holr,
! that some ether uer'Ona who hat
nothing mt all q do with the matte
| got the blame from the Shorlil. and
, ""nted To clear these people from
, being blamed
Lenient with Others.
, O. Is there any other M ter 80,
, can remember rclaiiSe 10 lwilci gn'
the payment Of lhr money to thC
, Sheriff for allowing It TO run opea
other than that yOu have a'ro idy OK