New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1908-05-09
Ion DICE AND DINNERS
mr.. JEROME EXPLAINING.
Neither Inferfered 7cith HIS Duty,
.Says District attorney.


mony he gave Thursday in regard to dining win
+ r Thomas at the City Club said at the near
ing Of the King committee charges yesterday
that when e dned with him he believed MI
Thomas had valuable evidence tending 10 sho"
the commission of crimes by Charles w. holse
lint that since then he had changed his peileI.
Mr. Jerome also said he wanted Ihomas 10 nave
a counsel who could be relied on 10 WORK soleiy
for his interests. and was anxious 10 give 'he
latter immunity If he would turn s'aIe e'1"eiio'
against Morse.
In view of Mr.. Jeromes testimony that ne han
recommended Mr. Thomas to engage eX-Judge
Davy as counsel rather than Edward Lauterbasi'
some surprise created yesterday When MI
Lauterbach said he was still counsel Tor MI
Thomas and that he and Mr. Davy were working
tremendously together"
It was brought out yesterday that during the
Thaw trial Mr. Jerome had gone out and thrown
dice with the Ryan boys-sons of Thomas F.
Ryan-for "a dollar a toss and drinks on the
side" Mr.. Jerome said he had not neglected his
duty in doing 1t was also brought out that
Assistant District Attorney Garvan was related
to Anthony n. Brady through the marriage of his
sister Mr.. Brady's
Mr. Jerome In his explanation of the dinner cpl
sode said the only evidence he had against Thomas
was a commission of misdemeanor under a
OF the insurance law. the legal nterpreta-
ton of which somewhat doubtful, and he was
therefore willing to give Thomas immunity if he
would furnish testimony against anybody connect
ed with the financial scandals. Il was desirouS
represented
because L told him. Davy had no interest down
here that would conflict with his serving him.
and 1 thought Davy would advise him TO turn
states evidence And I said TO him Davy would
advise him for his CThomas's) own interests.
did feel that about Edward Lauterbach, De-
cause 1 know what other interests Lau-
terbacl had that might conflict with those OF MS
clients"
Mr. Jerome said that he did not intend to credit
information regarding his remarks to Mr. Thomas
at the dinner Justice Gaynor or any one else in
particular Justice Gaynor and several judges
at nearby tables, and also some laymen he
said. THAT was all said about that"
Justice Gaynor denied yesterday that he had
been near by when District Attorney Jerome met
E. R. Thomas at the City Club and discussed with
him changes in counsel
Mr. Jerome called Arthur Teale expert &C
countant, who had examined the books of the Met
ropotan Street Railway Company for him. Mr..
Teale said he had been in the employ of the
so-caed Ryan interests, and then testified that ne
saw nothing wrong in the books of the MetropolI-
tan. He said that the sale Of ten-year per cent
debenture bonds by the Metropolitan Securities
Company to the New York City Railway Company
q legitimate transaction, in his opinion and
properly carried the books OF both COM
panes. Mr. Pierce brought out that in one instance
the effect Of this discount was that the New York
City Railway Company paid the Metropolitan Sc
cur1ties Company $4,000 for the use or less
than coo, 600 for several months.
Mr. Teale said that although the total discount
on the total issues Of these bOnds-amounting to
81 10000, the total issue being S1500,cD-had been
carried the books of the company as assets and
although they not in reality assets and al
though large part of the issue had never been
discounted, yet this was simply bookkeeping
transaction and the item would not convey false
impression to of ordinary intelligence" He
said he considered the COnpany's reports TO the
Board of Railroad Commissioners correct, but Crtti-
rsed the form in which the board had prepared its
report blanks
Nj Pierce put the witness through laborious
hut faCfi Inn
with that given by the District Attorney on the
same subject. 1t during this examination that
Mr.. Jerome softly murmured:
Amt it awful. Mabel?
Your Honor" Numbered Pierce, shaking his fist
at Jerome, L will not be insulted in this way. L
have stood it long enough
Il did not hear the remark said Hand, pacih-
cally.
oh I apologize" said Jerome laughing
Assistant District Attorney Mott told in detail
Of the steps taken by the District Attorneys
Office in investigating the charges of jury bribng
made against the Metropolitan. Mr.. Mott said he
warned Assistant District Attorney Smyth not to
talk with Julian unless he had a stenographer
present.
Il told Mr. Smyth" he said. that Julian could
probably deliver the goods. he was the head
and front Of whatever corruption was going on
by the Metropolitan"
He also told Of telephone conversation with
Mr.. Quackenbush, counsel for the Metropolitan.
during which Mr.. Quackenbush confded his fear
which Metropolitan case was to be tried, and
that some people would try to make lot OF
capital out of it" This after Tilinghasts
conviction for jury bribing.
Wasn't this the most astonishing thing you
ever heard of" asked Pierce-'thfs Metropolitan
jury bribing?"
"Oh. I managed to bear up under it," retorted
Mott
Answer the question" interjected Jerome. He
wants know is it the most astonishing thing
you ever heard offs 1t more astonishing than
the selection Of Mr. Pierce counsel for the
King committee?'
Mr. Pierce tried 10 show that Ambrose T. Nc
Gable must have had knowledge Of the bribing of
jurors in the that he tried but Mr. Mott
held that there corroborative evidence for
any such assertion
Finally both lawyer and witness got rufled and
there was some forcibe repartee. Mr.. Mott also
said he unaware of the alleged fact that four
or five Metropolitan employees daily arrested
for criminal negligence
Mr.. Jerome said that all the MetropOitans
short" vouchers had been destroyed but a mo-
ment later Mr. Brown auditor for the Metropoi-
tan identified a bundle of vouchers Mr. Pierce
handed him short vouchers.
Nathan Smyth said that the Attorney General
had not turned over any new evidence him in
regard to the American Ice Company, and that the
only evidence he could find after exhaustive
inquiry showed that the small dealers had con-
spired to raise prices
Il think Mr. Jerome's determination to prose-
cute these Dealers to lay the matter before
grand jury, in view OF the outcry against the
American Ice Company, OF the bravest
things 1 know Of he exclaimed
Il strike that out shouted Pierce
"T consent" said Mr. Jerome
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