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agreed 20 refuse 10 summon witnesses un-
til it was shown by the progress Of the in
resignation that their presence was neces-
sary. The committee decided also that
neither counsel for Mr.. LiIIey nor FOR
the Electric Beat Company should cross
examine witnesses before nrst submitting
their questions 10 the committee.
The claim Of Mr.. LilIey that he was
being Swallowed by detectives was met
with a resolution asking Mr.. Idlley II
these detectives hs6 hampered him in
bringing evidence before the committee
and promising 20 protect him il he showed
it,
That the committee intends 10 insist
that Mr.. Lilley make his charges under
oath before the real investigation is be-
gun was evident after the executive ses-
sion. when Mr.. BOuteli said that Mr.
Lilley would be called as a witness when
the committee reassembles on Thursday
morning.
When the committee assembled yester-
day morning Chairman BOutell called
upon Representative LiIIey promptly 70
submit TO examination Immediately be-
fore the chairman had announced that
the committee would take all statements
of witnesses under oath. When Mr.. Lii
ley stepped forward, documents In hand.
which he proceeded 70 read. Mr.. Boutell
interrupted 10 remind him OF the order
OF procedure. and the desire that he be
sworn. Then followed a coIioquy be-
tween the two in this order:
Mr.. Lilley-I respectfully submit that
this examination can be made effective
only by having here counsel skilled in the
art Of examination and denomination
Many of the witnesses who should be
summoned viii be unwilling witnesses
and, since IL seems 20 be the pleasure Of
the committee to put me in the position
OF prosecutor. 1 would have the invasti-
cation proceed in the order which would
produce results.
Has Made Charges.
Mr.. Boutell-The committee places the
gentleman in no position: the gentleman
has made charges which it is the solemn
duty Of the committee TO investigate. and
the committee desires to know IL Mr..
Lilley is ready to testify 10 what he
knows OF his own knowledge in regard
to the charges he has made.
Mr.. Lilley-I do not care to give my
evidence to-day.
Mr.. BoutelI-when will you be ready to
give 1t?
Mr.. Lilley-I have made reasonable
effort 10 have counsel here from my
State. and 1 expect counsel VIII be here
in a few days.
Mr.. Boutell.-You are not willing now TO
state to the committee what you know
personally?
Mr.. Lilley-I am not. I shall not give
my evidence except on advice OF counsel.
and l shall leave il 10 my counsel 70
determine when and in what way my
statement should come, for I have with
ME a list of witnesses that should be
summoned. and I am willing TO have the
proceedings go on with them.
Mr.. BOutell-The engagements Of the
committee are such that it viii not sit
again until Thursday morning. at 10
o'clock. at which time the committee will
examine Representative Lilley under oath
on matters within his own personal
knowledge
Mr.. Lilley-I. VIII give my evidence at
the time my counsel thinks it IS best for
me to give It. I submit that this evidence
should be brought out carefully. begin
ming with the proper persons. Z do not
care to show my hand.
Mr. Boutell-The committee have deter
mined 10 begin with the examination
of Mr.. Lilley on matters within his own
personal knowledge.
Mr.. Lilley-In the recent investigations
in New York. and in the Pennsylvania