The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1908-02-28
CANNOT AGREE
OVER CAR
TIME
cFrOm Thursdays Adver,isero

GSOrSS H. carter, W. n. MclneruS.
A F. Judd and L L. McCandless
were there to state the grievance OF
the Liliha street people.
/ Wade Warren Thayer. c. W. Ash
ford, E. \, Berndt. c, H. Dickey. W.
NJ. Minton. Allan Herbert and W, L.
Howard attended as the committee Of
s. mass meeting held by the waialse.
Kaimuk and Palolo Improvement
Club to resist the executive approval
asked by the Rapid TRANSIT, Co. for its
schedule OF cars under a twenty-min-
ute headway between waialae ridge
terminus and Aala Park
L Tenney Peck. president. and C.
G. Ballsntyne. manager. OF Honolulu
Rapid Transit & Land Co. were pres
emit as proponents OF the aforesaid
schedule and OF its approval by the
executive.
Governor Frear sat at his desk in
the midst of the delegations 10 hear
what was 20 be said on all sides and
70 receive such documentary exhibits
as might be submitted The hearing
on the car schedule was resumed, pur-
susnt 70 adjournment from Friday
last. at o'clock yesterday afternoon
in the Governors office. Liliha street
was first heard from.
Mr.. NcInsrny made statement TO show
that since the new arrangement came
into effect, with = gap or 900 yards
OF unused track left between the Waia-
lac and the Liliha~ street cars, the con-
ditiOns for LiIiha street people were
worse than ever.
Mr.. Carter said they objected 10 the
taking away of the service they had
enjoyed for six years. After taking |
their cause into the courts and WIN !
ming it. they were treated worse than |
before At meeting OF IS residents |
it was the almost unanimous opinion /
that they ought TO have the same /
service as before. \ majority Of them
preferred to connect with King street /
but the women and children would l
probably be better suited by connect
ing with the Hotel street line-nOt
necessarily in time. but in place The
company had refused this concession.
From the foot OF Liliha street to Wal
alae ridge would form one system. and
Liliha street connecting with King
street another. Answering the Cover
nor the speaker said he was legally
advised that the Governor could make
rules only when the Rapid Transit Co.
refusd 10 do so. Further, that if the
Governor refused the people could
have recourse TO the courts.
elf the Rapid Transit Co. refuses"
the Governor said. ''the Superintend-
eut Of Public Works, with my approval,
may make rules. -
Mr. McCandIess. coming in late, had
little TO add TO what his colleagues had
said
Messrs. Ashford and Thayer said the
Waialae ear people wanted TO connect
direct with Liliha street. and Mr.. Ash
ford added that more frequent ears
was a separate claim by Kaimuki He
asked Mr.. Carter If his legal advice
covered the question Of executive ap-
prevail OF schedules.
Mr.. Judd, diselaIming appearance as
q lawyer, said his personal opinion was
that the statute gave the Governor
power 10 interfere in just such a stu
alton as they were today up against.
Mr.. AintOn asked why the kaimuki
ears could not run down Beretania to
Fort street and around TO the Iron
Works, while the PunahOu ears took
their former route by way of Alapai
and Hotel streets into town.
Mr.. Peek for reply suggested the
NUuanu street route for the PUnahOu
ears, and Mr.. Ballentyne recalled the
fact that the original route Of the Pu-
1ahou ears was TO Liliha street Mr..
Peek continued on that subject, say
ing the company did not then have
King street. IL
''The LiIiha street people have the
King street line by their own elee- I
-ion," Mr.. Peek declared with en-
Dhasis. ''Now they want another [
Inc" :
Taking up the plea for the women :
and children, he went on TO argue that I
I was a physical impossibility to bring {
he WaisIae and the Liliha ears to
yether without upsetting the running q
line Of the Waialae ears. He quoted r
he Supreme Courts dictum as 20 equal T
tights between different localities. go Z
ng on 10 contend that the Kaimuki 2
le0ple were asking for something 7
.gainst their own interests. IL was i
Necessary IN & twenty minute service :
o have ears run by the watch. With 4
lOre frequent ears the punetuslity Of e
ars az given points was less impOT- {
ant, ten-minute service for instance L
waits Of not longer than SIX q
= eight minutes at the worst :
Mr. Peck then proceeded to smplify n
Is argument begun last week upon
he theory that 4 car service must, in Z
cientiic railroading, De governed By Il
ne patronage offered He presented h
ablss and q diagram TO show the rela- c
We proportions OF traffic and earnings u
the different lines in the system. 70 q
how that IL would De unfair 10 require G.
ae company al present % put more 6
srs On the WaiaIae route. q
In answer 70 Mr. Ashford he sa.d I.
le s510.000 valuation Of the franchise Il
as not included in the claimed in IL
=stment Of 81 ,sJ9.05o in the road An Ct
Fering another inquiry by Mr.. Ash q
Jrd, a. % whether the company was u
ltitlsd 70 get back It's investment and 81
vi the system a. well al the end OF n,
e franchise, he said the company nj