The Montgomery advertiser., 1908-04-23

MIR. HALE FURNIsREs ESTIMATES
 FOR SHIPS.
Seven Mflli0n Dollars is Amount of Es- innate Furnished by Navy De- partmemt. Which VIII Be
 aAAaa A~-euAmaemt

Added as Amendment.
 Washington. April 22.-When the consideration of the naval appropria- ton bill was resumed In the Senate to- day. Mir. Hale. referring to puhlica- ton 'in a New York paper" which he said announced war outside and in- side the Senate. explained why an ap- propriation for the two new battle ships and submarines had not been placed in the bill. either in the House or the Senate.
 The House. he said. voted the appro- prIation down on the ground that It would not be needed until next De- cember and the Senate Committee had not put 1t in the bill because no esti- mate of the amount that could be sx- pended had been received from the De- partmont. Since the bill was report ed. he said. the estimates amounting to $7, ,000, 900 had been received and he would add that amount as an amend ment to the bill thus increasing to that extent the already heavy appropria- tlons for the navy.
 T say this," added Mir. Hale. ''in or der that Senators and newspaper men and all others may possess their souls In peace"
 Answering an inquiry by Mr. Clay. Senator Hale sadd 1t was necessary to begin to repair the great vessels of the navy almost as soon as they are | set ahoat.
 When repairs reach the original cost. he added, "it is discovered vessel is obsolete"
 Mir. Hale said he had recently talk ed to Sir William White. formerly head | of the British admiralty. who had sta ted that the United States had the fin- est fleet in the world, and that the ex- ceilence of our navy Is due to the fact that we have waited to build ships AAA h.nw4 i dreds of millions of dollars upon ships | that have become obsolete. The ships you have are the best of their kind he told me-" said Mir. Hale. But you will find just as we have | found. that the expense of great navy only begins when you have built | the ships.'"
 Mfr. Clay criticised the large amounts | of money carried in the bill for repairs | to vessels. s.
 Mr. Warren criticised the naval bill so far as 1t provides for an in- crease in the navy and the marine corps, saying that when the increase for the army was proposed. 1t was | placed in a separate bill and brought into the Senate early in the session so that full discussion on it could be had. He referred to the recent remarks of | Senator Hale in the Senate. in which the Senator from Maine commented on newspaper article. stating that the policy of the Secretary of War has been to increase the regular army to | 125,000 men. Mir. Warren said there seemed to be feeling of resentment | toward every proposition to enlarge the army and since the ships of Sena- tor Hale of Maine. there had been widespread comment on the extrava- gance of appropriations for that branch of the service. Now. he said, the navy bill was before the Senate with pro- visions for an increase in the enlisted force which 1t was proposed to pass | in a minute.
 That is because we keep adding ships" suggested Mir. Hale
 But the army is enlarged because we keep adding countries" retorted Mir. Warren.
 We have not added any lately. thank | God" retorted the Senator from Maine. | Mir. Hale admitted that he did not have the army so much in mind as he had the navy when he spoke against an increased military establishment. He said he was then preparing to op- pose four new battleships. MT. Warren then had read at the desk a statement by Secretary Taft. disclaiming that he was authority for the newspaper statement that he had a plan for the standing army of 125.00 and a letter from General Bell. chief of staff. declaring that he never heard of such a thing and never thought of doubling the army"
 Mir. Foraker interposed to have the seech of Secretary Taft delivered at Columbus, O.. April 8. 1908. concerning the enlargement of the army. printed in The Record. and q part of t read from the Vice Presidents desk.
 Senator Warren, with some feeling. said 1t looked to him that in order to get four. eight or ten battleshipS, for the navy, the water must be black ened around the army and public at- tention turned from it." He said when another b.ll was brought 1t. that 1t should be "one we know something about" He does not think the navy appropriation bill was the proper place in which to provide for regiment | of men.
 Mir. Foraker, commenting on the Co., l lumbus (O.) speech of Secretary Taft, said that speech indicated that the Idea of the Secretary was to have leg islat.on enacted in the country in the l next ten years, through the reserve | forces as we'll as the regular army, to | have 25O ,OO0 men under arms.
 Before taking up the sections relat- | tn9 to hattIeshfDa. the bill was laid