New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1908-11-21

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$50 that this practically a payment to
| of drawback of 10 per cent on your snip.
| ments because YOU large shippers. was It NOT
1rseptaS m fbe prsctfce Of those times in re-
gard to oil and all other freights The man who who
could contribute q large regular volume OF franc
was able % SECURE some copsderauon on ,b 5nat n
sideratons Of value in reference to the pernsnenoy
Did You ship any oil to any place where YOU
did not use the oil or need # in vow b sbnsd 6
| 20 ports to which would have preferred not 20
Of oP this i Contract 70 10 Bmore
any oil that you would have preferred not to ship
sd 5 ~ S1s be State state in TeaPd
to mater Of d at sort kn9w gT gen sai sa were we
prepared when we made that contract to carry 1t
.Q-.-Now, this agreement was made at the tine
OF the settlement of the Empire TTansportauf9,n
A-PTesunaby soon after that. ! can't state def
tniteiy as TO dates.
RATE INCREASE FOLLOWED PACT.
o.-Immediately after this agreement was made
We're Rey no ?'e AThe were adsanced be-
liege to a renunerat I've price ,.o,, .,o,.. 81
the American Transfer Company which you &C
Is that correct? Al should say
Mr. Rockefeller then asked about Daniel
ODay. He said he knew him well and that he
was good fellow. He was connected with the
American transfer Company. but the witness
could not remember what his Office was: A
letter from Mr.. O'Day to A. J. Cassatt was read.
Mr.. Kellogg took turn at it.
OIL wish to call your attention to that letter.
70 the con ton had With You in January
n 10 6s submit On the d1ewg faSt T9ss s our
of several hundred thousand dolars). purchas ed
which we are able not only to protect the Ale
0il Int al RI
pany (by agreement with IT. its fun proportion of
Of he Coz
and SO ops as f Columbia Gendt cempany az
forded the Baltimore & Ohio road access to the oil
accept from the other trunk lines lfor its proper
ton Of the oil traffic. less than % per cent but
Company YOU succeeded in arranging with the Bal
uoG c 4e Tor R a Ra t6a 6e 81 @
oil they may Now, had yo1 acquires oa he
eeDa % the When you osd made a ai that
Der L. 1877? Al cannot state the
CAN'T RECALL OTHER REBATES
The question was objected to. but Mr. Rookie
Teller completed his answer that ne could not
recall 1t.
81 ,, vii read you The next clause - here re-
You to receive and treat as strict lily conidentsi,
from the New York Central and Erie railroads cere
tain sums OF money In instance less than 20
by each Of these roads" NVI could M not state
from my recollection anything about it,
This letter was read from the testimony in
the Pennsylvania suit. and Mr.. kellogg referred
to another part which stated that the Baltimore
& Ohio received rebate of II per cent The
witnesses attention had been called TO it, he
said Another question objected to, but it
went through
Q-Now. do you know that Daniel O'Day and
A. J. American
Transfer Company not only paid the 20 cents
the STANDARD compan.esHbut on the oil of outside
shippers? Any attention may have been called
o-puring those years you were intimately con,
BUSINESSES? AMy POSITION 81 was as That Of he
president OF the Standard OIL Company CT Ohio.
~ o vas asss shfFS the of this
o9n oao with wit til the "a a Railroad Il g
A--Not. at all
The witness again asked about the ODay
contract but persisted in saying that he could
not recall it. The Missouri suit was referred
to to refresh Mr.. Rockefeller's memory regarding
Mr.. ODay's testimony. and other suits were
cited Objections made. The witness
could not recall the circumstances. Recess came |
at this time, and when the hearing was re-
sumed the pipe line question taken up.
FREIGHT RATES AND PIPE LINES
Mr.. Rockefeller admitted that freight rates
were Of more importance before the pipe lines |
were built; bat he did not have charge of that /
work or the freight. Mr.. Flagler, Mr.. Archbold !
and his brother William at various times con- |
Quoted that end of the business he said.
Mr. Kellogg took up the Pennsylvania suit |
against the United Pipe Lines
Q.-Now in about 1878, do you remember that the
State OF fehIsyiNdlia uIeu 90 GUST ths Cnlted Pipe
n G G4o the 9n R @ ths i led
Railroad obtain rebates, drawbacks and prefer
entail rates?
There objection. but the witness could not
recall the suit. Neither could he remember a
pooling agreement to abrogate rebates More
testimony read regarding Mr.. Cassatt and
the Standard Oil preferences. but Mr.. Rookie
feller's recollection vague.
pany did refuse to ship at the same rate FOR otter
parties unless they shipped much the Stand
Odd you ever have any conversation with Mr.
Scott about that subject? A.-Never that / recall. |
Q.-How is it that you recall particularly the ar
me- 8Gu 10 recfTg 10 per cent
fed 70 yesterday. and cannot recall those other in
Kellogg that my attention has been called TO this
and therefore il in my mind.
against your company in the State Of Pennsylvania
for having conspired with the railroads to obtain
amned and Nj oDay and others and that you
Of it? Al presume we knew about 1t at the time.
company having received these rebates true? A
That ! cannot say from my recollection. Mr..
Kellogg.
ACQUISITION OF TERMINALS.
The government counsel then attacked the
criminal acquisitions. He had the witness re-
call his testimony about the Erie and New York
Central, but he would not say that the terminals