Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1908-11-17
k|NDEL. TALKS OF
FREIGHT RATINGS.
Denver Expert Says Utah and
Colorado Are Discriminate
ed Against
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SHOWS FIGURES IN PROOF.
SHOWS FIGURES IN PROOF.
tables and Charts Displayed Before
Businessmen, Used to Illustrate
Points in the Discussion.

That the western shipper Is con
fronted with the solution of the ques-
ton of equalizing freight rates--as
distinguished from reducing them
was the point most strongly emphas-
lied by George j. kindel at the Com
lnercial club last evening. Mr.. Kindel
halls from Denver, and is accredited
an expert on rate matters. The meet
ing was held iii the club under the
auspices of its traffic bureau. y
large gathering Of businessmen from
all classes OF commercial pursuits in
GLIDING many prominent officers of tbs
railroads was present to hear Mr.
Kindel and the meeting at times grew
4 to such a point that the interest of his
listeners was tense. Mr., Kindel was
introduced to the meeting by Charles
a. Quigley on behalf Of tho club.
Fairer rates said Mr.. Kindel, are y
be sought. Rates are needed which
4 shall be relative In the bearing and
based upon a uniform and fair class
ification. MIR. Kindel declared that the
railroads are not hauling freight 70.
long distances for less than cost. OF
II they were, they would not extend
their lines. Because tits against the
law to haul freight for less than cost
sit follows that they are not doing so,
was his expressed opinion. Mr.. Kindei
,GE Ailu tpdFllEuluI tSlIeSS upon lHe SIAIe
" ment that in the east the rule holds
that the longer the haul the less TIL,
rate per ton mile while in the west
exactly the opposite condition prevails
LOCAL CONDITIONS.
To the wool men. Mr.. kindel said:
ut costs you Utah wool men sl6S, O00
more tosshiptyour clips to Boston from
this state each year than 1t would IL
: you lived on the Pacific coast and
sniprad our wool 900 mlese farther
Referring again to.s a particularly
local subject, Mr.. Kindel said that thu
steel In the Newhouse buildings. 2,75t
tons In bulk, was hauled from Pitts
burg at n cost of S1.lO per hundred
pounds. whereas, ii 1t had been shipped
from the same consignment point to
San Francisco it would have been
hauled through Utah and on to the
i coast at II cost to the shipper of 10
cents per hundred pounds, making .
difference of Sl9,250 which the Salt
Lake builder pays to the railroad as d
penalty for unequal rates not based
upon fair and uniform classification.
Along the same line. he said to tht
Commercial club members. that their
own new building as projected Will re-
$quire 400 tons of structural steel and
that for freight charg%seS from Pitts
burg to$ths city $3.50 more will be
paid than If. the consignment were
shipped all the way to the Pacific coast
q word of advice was given to the
business men by Mr.. Kindel. "Ali you
need Is tosfight, he said SHOW your
teeth and fight The railroads have
long since given up the spirit of fair
ness and have fixed the rate question,
not by what the people should have.
but by what the people Will stand
Every state in the Union with the ex-
fsf. M trHy, ~ -f.,I, t1J
advantages Of. the reduction for the
long haul, Yet here we are forced to
pay Al mills per ton per mile while
Spokane pays 80 and along the coast
they pay 16.
SHOWS SUP. UNION PACIFIC.
You take the case of the Union Pa
.cific, continued the speaker that car
ries coal from Missouri points to Reno,
New, for the same price that 1t viii
carry the same amount from Colorado
to Omaha. In the case of books 4
shipment willFcome from New York to
Utah in less than car, lots for 1888 and
the same shipment will be carried to
San Francisco over the same line for
So
Discrimination shows again, said he,
In the minimum rate clause. TO the
coast Il shipment of $4,000 pounds is
classed as q car lot, While to Utah and
Colorado points 10000 car is required.
he said.
In answer to Farley L. Williams, of
the 0. S. L. legal department In this CITY.
who interjectedfa question, Mr.. ISindel
said that Il rate of Il mills per ton per
mile ON coal from Wyoming was no.
high, but that probably some other
company. in another part of the imme-
date vicinity OF the country was sui.
fering. Mr.. Williams shot back the
remark that the talk had but "few kerr
nels and lots of shaft"
HAVE a RIGHT TO FIGHT.
III III the course of his remarks Mr..
Kindel protested that the business men
OF Utah and Colorado have right on
their side. In this connection he said:
We have just as much occasion 10
arise and fight for our rights and right
the wrongs as our forefathers had back
In the revolutionary days. We are un
Justly taxed and those gallant ances-
tors of ours who fought the Tories
would be ashamed of us If they knew
how nIeekly we submit.
s II may be called crank in my fights
for fair treatment by the railroads. but
they respect me. They have offered ma
their passes and plenty of influential
positions as traffic manager to shut up,
but ] refuse to be bought off or brihed
LIN still lighting, The man who won't
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