The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1908-12-04

tract the Standard paid a part Of the
railroad rate to the Pennsylvania on
the crude oil which the National Tran
sit company carried in its pipe line
and the which the Pennsylvania did
not carry.
Mr.. Archbold said he was not pre-
pared to give informations regarding
the contract, which the witness said,
was abandoned in 1893.
Mr.. Kellogg then asked:
rs 1t not a fact that the railroads
held up the rates which are practical.
" prohibitive, to an Independent
shipper?"
Il am not a railroad man"
Mr.. Archbold said there were many
independent reiners today who ship
by railroads. These independents
went out of business voluntarily and
amicably, as they realized their plants
were not fitted to survive.
Mr.. Archbold raised a laugh when
he said he had denounced the South
Improvement company declaring that
it was IAN outrage on those included
in it,"
Mr.. Archbold said he had been told
.afterward that the Standard was to
be in the agreement with the South
Improvement Company, which includ-
ed all the oil carrying railroads. The
early contracts between the Stand
ard and the Pennsylvania railroad,
whereby the Pennsylvania gave a
drawback of 10 per cent on all crude
oil shipped to the seaboard in return
for a certain amount Of oil to be
shipped over the Pennsylvania was in
quired into.
Mr.. Rockefeller had testified to this
contract at length. Mr.. Archbold said
there was no secrecy about the con
tract, which did not continue a long
time. He said the 10 per cent vas a
fair return for evening the process
of oil shipment, which the Standard
guaranteed.
Mr.. Kellogg sought to show through
a contract between Daniel O'Day, of
the American Transfer company. and
the Pennsylvania railroad, that the
Pennsylvania gave a rebate of 20
cents a barrel to the Standard on oil
shipped by others. Mr.. Archbold said
he did not think that was possible.
Mr.. Kellogg wanted to know about
the stipulation made in a contract
made between the Acme company,
with the Pennsylvania, whereby the
rates for oil then should be made pub
lie.
That was probably for the ben
eft of howlers. It did not amount to
a hill of beans and was all folderol.
There were no established tariff rates
in those days.
did not you testify in 1897 that
you got a rebate of 63 cents out of a
freight rate of sI1.29M in 1882"
81 have no recollection"
The attention of Mr.. Archbold was
called to the testimony Of Alex. ].
Cassatt, then vice president Of the
Pennsylvania, that the railroad paid
a rebate to the American Transfer
compny on all oil shipped over the
Pennsylvania.
Mr.. Archbold said he recollected
there were some suits and added that
cit was a sort of custom in those days
to bring suits"
Mr.. Kellogg pursued the question of
rebates given by railroads and Mr..
Archbold replied that he "got the best
rates he could, and he had no doubt
that, whatever the railroad man prom
Used you, the chances were that on
his way home he gave some other
man a lower rate"
DO you know that Mr.. Cassatt ties,
titled that the Standard received low
er rates than any other shipper?"
81 do not know that he SO testified"
Mr.. kellogg asked if it was a fact
that the price of refined oil to the re-
tailers throughout the country today
was not higher than 1t vas in 1890.
Mr.. Archbold said he did not think
so.