The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1908-01-20

a position in the chorus. remained
/ there for a few weeks, getting along
very well. I posed durins the DAY,
/ working In the theater at night. ! told
/ Harry that until 1 met Stanford White
1 was accompanied 10 the theater by
nay mother
Odd you tell him how old you
/ We're?
J A.-Yes, l said that I was fourteen
/ when / came from Philadelphia
. Q.-HUW long did You remain in New
4 York after your return from Europe
/ before you saw Harry ThaW2
( About two weeks.
! .Q.-And did you have any converse
1 zion with him?
! A.-Yes, sir.
/ Q.-What did you say to hha?
Al told him that I bear these
/ things about him from STANFORD White.
Jerome Objects Again.
Jerome objected. saying: What are
I these things" / submit that unless she
gives her entire recollection OF these
/ conversations that they are wholly in
competent"
Justice Bowling ruled that the wit
Tess must give the entire conversations
So far as she could remember them.
Q.-Dld you have further conversation
with him2
Al had several conversations on this
matter and / told him how the man had
/ offered 10 take me to Mr.. HIummers
Office.
/ Q,-What did Mr.. Thaw say to youe
At was in November 1913. AT the
Hotel Navarro. j saw him several
times after that in a restaurant and ia
/ d drug store. At the Navarro he came
into my room and asked me about the
stories He inquired If / had seen Stan
ford White, and ! told him thai L had.
Tie said hg wanted me 10 know that ne
was my friend; and that If ever
needed nfm 10 LEI him know.
Odd you have d further converse
ton with him?
A.-NeS.
GLOW soon after the Navarro in
cident2
Al cannot remember exactly. / saw
him several times once in a drug store
and another time In a restaurant. 1
can't remember everything he said or
/ everything 1 said. I'd have 10 be
coached
Looked APpealingly az Jerome.
Here the witness turned her eyes to
showed that she wanted to tell all to
the jury and was disappointed at the
Interruptions of the district attorney.
Odd you say anything about White
taking you 10 Mr. Hummel ). office?
Al can't remember ever. Thing. but
/ know that / told him that lIr White
did take me 20 Mr.. Hummel S Office.
Q.-At Hummers office you were
shown some paper?
Ayes / was not shown the whole
paper-Only my signature.
Jerome asked that the latter part Of
the answer be stricken out
The court granted the request
Q.-Do you recall the circumstances
under which you were taken 70 Hum
meIs office
A.-Yes. 1 told him: Your friend
Stanford White had said that you were
q terrible man. that you had taken
girl, put her in a bath tub and poured
sCaidlng hot water over her: also that
you were addicted TO the use Of NOR
phine.' Mr.. ThaW said that these stories
were untrue. 1 asked him If he had
taken cocaine. lie said that's he had
not and asked nae what / knew Of NOR
phine.
Il said that I had had morphine given
10 me at times TO put me 10 sleep. IL
was on that occasion that l first told
him Of my visit 10 Hummels office. l
told him Of that visit there during sew
eraI subsequent conversations also.
White Pursued Her.
Q.-What did lie say in reply to what
you told him?
Ale said that If they were true I
( ought To know about IL. There were
several stories of this same sort 1 told
him.
,Q.-Whhat old you say about going 70
Hunmel's Officer
A.-After 1 got back I met Stanford
" hite on Fifth avenue
He asked me where l was stopping.
/ would not tell him. but somehow or
other ne round out where 1 was
lie called me on the telephone later
at my hOtel-the Savoy. He said that
he wanted 10 tell me about my mother
asked MIN what he knew about her
and he said he could not tell me over
the phone. but would ike TO call and
see me. l asked him If mother was III
He said he could not tell, but would tell
me when he saw me. On that plea /
asked him to call. Mr.. White also COM
planned to me that he had heard from q
lot of chorus girls that l had gone
around from place to place in Europe
with Harry Thaw and that he was very
much disappointed in me- He urged me
not to marry Harry Thaw and then re-
lated the story about the girl I'm the
bath tub. Here also told Harry that
Mr.. White told me that he used NOR
phjne and was crazy; that ne did not
care for me, and that I ought 10 be pro
tected from him He advised me 10
keep away from him and in leaving
something should be done.
Remained in New York.
Evelyn said she remained in New
York until about February, 1904, and
confessed to living at the Grand Hotel
with Thaw.
Q.-What was mis- condition at the
Grand H5tel2
Ale was depressed and did not
sleep much.
Odd he talk much about your
troubles at the hands OF White2
Ale DID. And most of the time
was highly nervous. one evening Thaw
told me my life had been ruined. his
LIE ruined. and nothing was left DuE
suicide. He asked ne to 90 TO the Wal
dOTi, get a room Tor luncheon served,
and then take lauCanum together.
Q.-Wnat did you 90?
Al insisted on going TO the theater
Odd ThIw ever talk of suicide
again2
A.-Yes, at Monte Carlo. After dinner
one night Thaw went out, but came
back soon and said: It's all over now.
I've done it. 7 have taken laudanum
and viii die. I can not stand It any
longer His face was very white. I
rang for q bell boy and told him tc
get a doctor. In the meanwhile Thaw
became violently i'll and when the docto.
came 1t was unnecessary to use an
emetic.
Q.--HOw was Thaw after that?
A--SOmetimes very moody. insisting
life was not worth living. Then for
periods he would be all right.
Evelyn said ThaW talked of marriage
ne3rly every day they lived Jogethe.-
both abroad and in this country.
Q.-Do you remember his mother COM