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The new South-news., 1908-04-25

transformation. This Ia especially
notable Mt Atlanta. whore the resting
place OF nearly every Southern sol
dicr has been marked In somo way.
II also contains several Of the finest
monuments Of this character In the
United States. At Marietta. Ga,
where thousands OF namclcss South
crn troops are buried. the graves are
marked with blank stones In ordor
that they may not be forgotten. ana
yearly these are decorated AN well as
those which contain inscriptions.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

mcmbered in this way those who fell
on both sides rs well ns their own.
. For a number OF years past the
hundreds OF graves OF unknown dead
in the cemetery at Winchester. Va.
have been heautincd. although IN not
a few rcpose the bodies OF Northern
men who lost their lives In tho sew
oral battles which were 50 bitterly
fought In this portion Of virginia's $
valley. Some years ago monument
was erected, largely through the sub
scriptions OF the people In the vicin-
ity, which Ia ono of the most attrac-
tive In the South. On It is this sig
ntncant inscriptions: None knew
who they were. but all knew what
they we're" As may be imagined Il
was erected to these nameless ones.
While the Government has done
much In recent years In adornIng
such cities OF the dead IA those
which are located at Antietam,
South Mountain. Arlington aud 9TH
crs famous In history. the Southern
people have also engaged In the same
work for their own. and although
most OF the funds raised for the rur-
pose have been through private con-
trthutions they have effected great
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

In special message vetoing a dam
bill, President Roosevelt warned con-
gress that there are pending in this
session bills which propose to give
away without price stream rights ca
pab!e Of developing 1.300,0 norse-
power. whose production would cost
annually 25,000,000 tons of coal, and
urged in vigorous terms the estab-
lishmsnt of a policy, such as the fili-
clustering minority in the house grant
ing of bridge and dam privileges and
require the grantees to pay for them.
He definitely announced future pol
icy on his part with regard to prompt
utilization and construction privi-
leges by refusing his signature TO
bill giving an additional three years
TO the Rainey River Improvement
Company. within which to build
dam in the Rainey river.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

The department Of Justice decided
to institute proceedings under the in
terstate commerce act to compel the
Nashville. Chattanooga and st. Louis
Railway Company to furnish accom-
nodations to negro passengers paying
first-class fare equal in all respects
to those furnished to white passen-
gers. The case grew out OF CON-
plant filed with the interstate COM
merce commission against the rail-
road company by a negro woman al
leging discrimination.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Human life is the greatest resource
and asset Of this country, and the de-
siruction Of it by the criminal negli-
gence Of mine owners, the operator:
Of steam and electric rsilroacs and
burning of Aimsy buildings is one 0!
the things that deuand immediate rec
tifieation Of the government. That
will be the text Of an address TO De
made by the president at q meeting
to be held here in the week Of May
- to provide ways and means to con-
serve the natural resources OF the
country. This meeting is TO be a
notable one II has been called to
meet at the White House by the pres
ident, and the governor OF every
state, the members Of the United
States supreme court. the members OF
the inland waterways commission
James J. Hill, Grover Cleveland, Viii.
liam J. Bryan, Andrew Carnegie and
John Mitchell will participate.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Louisiana--Johnson. Lvin2
ish, O. W. Herring; Vcrx
parish James NJ. Mel
Bicnville parish. RobelV
Mississippi-Boyce, Wayne~
Hiram G. Fonde; Burns, Smith cor
ty. William II. Robinson; I.angford,
Rankin county. Charlie 0. Rouse;
Lawrence, Newton county. Melissa C.
Beaver; Neville. Kemper county,
Thomas ". Marble: Oklahoma, Leakc
county. Isabella A. johnson; Psrkers-
burg, Chickasaw county, Fora X. Ray,
Rounsaville, Greene county, Ella Dur
ham, Sarah, Tate county, Asa H.
Moon: Silver City, Yazoo county,
Christopher T. Partee; Stoneville,
Washington county, Reavis Kittle.
Rural Route No. l was ordered e.
tablisihed June l at Homer, Claiborne
parish, serving 400 people and eighty
eight families.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
J. g. LAKE APPEARS BEFORE
COMMITTEE.
NO DISCRIMINATION ALLOWED
Suit TO be Brought Against Railroad
For Not Giving Negroes Same
Accommodations as Whites
Don't Need Foreign Ships.


J. c. Lake, vice president Of the
Lake Torpedo Boat Company, whom
the special house committee charges
the Electric Boat Company has been
anxious to secure as witness, appear
ed before that committee. Mr.. Lake
left this country for Havana suhse-
quently 10 the introduction Of the
Li!ley resolution. He said the trip
was taken for the benefit of Mrs
lakes health and the first intima-
ton he had that he was wanted by the
committee, was received last Tuesday
upon his arrival in New York.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
JEFFERSON DAVIS.

He crossed PotomAc's raging flood
=. And rested midst the Frederick farms.
bnt barbara frietchies palsied hand
Ne'cr waved Union flag that day;
And Jackson, leading his command,
Passed through another street and way.
Where Fredericksburg lies on the plain
He dealt a swift and deadly blow,
And drove an army back again
Whose blood encrimsoned winters snow.
Then came the fatal Tenth of May;
And as he rode outside his line,
A hasty volley from the Gray
Came e'er they heard the countersign.
Wounded to death. yet patient, calm,
They bore him from the battlefield;
lie pleased his baby with the arm
That nevermorc q sword should WELD.
A Christian pure, . hero strong;
His geniue passes writer's praise.
Virginia still in Poete song
Mrs. II. 3. Turner, Warrington. d. C.,
in Confederate Veteran.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
sTONEwALL JACKSON.

See jackson like a stone wall standss
No charge that stubborn line can break.
stand hrm, my comrades" Bee commando
Stand firm for Carolina's sake'"
Scarce had he spoken when he fell,
First victim of a sections hate
Who heard the cry Of victory swell,
And passed to Heaven through Glcry .
gate.
The name immortal Bee had given
Was sealed in storm Of shot and shell:
The foe at Bull Run, panicdrivcn,
Learned Stonewell Jacksons tactics
we'll.
And in the Valleys great campaign
His armies never knew defeat;
He crossed the mountains. and again
lie saw his enemies retreat
AZ Harpcr's Ferry calm be stood
While twice five thousand stacked their
arms.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
WV 1W1ccroRY


The accompanying spirited picture
Illustrates tho night at Cabletown
near jarpcr's Ferry, between Captain
blazer's company OF picked Union
men armed with the then new Spencer
repeating guns and Colonel John s.
Mosby's famous Confederate Guerril-
las. or this battle Colonel Mosby
wrote. For a few minutes there
was hand to hand fight: but each OF
my men had pair OF pistols; these
werc as superior In a close conflict as
the Spencers were at long range.
Many OF Blazers men fell killed and
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
Presidents Hobby Defeated.

The administrators programme
for four battleships Of the first class,
met with decisive defeat in the house
The action of the president in sending
special message to congress proved
futile. John Sharp Williams practi-
cally defeated the plan. for he made
it party issue, cracked the party
whip ard won away the democratic
votes necessary to put the bill through
The vote was 1919 against to s3 for.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
Complains of Aldrich Bill.

Alfred 0. Crozier, of Wilmington,
Del. made complaint before the House
Committee on Banking and Curren-
cy that there was conspiracy in the
Currency Committee of the National
Bankers Association to amend the
Aldrich currency bill by reducing the
rate of interest from 6 to 3 per cent
on surplus circulation provided in
that measure.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Hereafter in accordance with . rul-
ing Of the Isthmian Canal Commis-
sion, no special appointments Of en-
ployes are to BE- requested, except in
special cases, to b approved BY the
Chairman Of the Isthmian Canal Com
mission, and all appointments in the
United States to be made With Wash
ington office and in accordance with
approved practice.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
Complaints From the Banks.

The response Of the Secretary OF
the Treasury to the Senate resolution
calling for the correspondence rela-
tive to the refusal Of the national
banks to supply currency to the into
ricr banks last fall was sent to the
senate. The statement shows that
complaints were received from forty
three banks in the interior cities aud
that every effort was made by both
the Treasury and the banks Of the
larger cities to meet the needs Of the
smaller institutions.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
Italians in Demand.

That Italians, especially Northern
Italians, are very much in damand on
the farms Of the Southern States.
despite statement to the contrary by
several prominent men in that Sec
ton. is the claim made by T. V. Pow
DERBY. Chief Of the Division Of 1nfor-
nation Of the Bureau of immigration
and Naturalization.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Attorncy-General Bonapsrte took
the first official steps to enforce ths
commodity clause of the Hepburn
rate law. This clause makes it ille-
gal, on and after May /. for railroad
companies to transport coal or other
commodities mined or manufactured
by themselves. Mr. Bonaparte has
been preparing for some time to be-
gin prosecutions on May l to test
the constitutionality Of the act, and
Col. Allison Wilmer was designated
as special encouragement to pros
ecute these cases.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Secretary Root had long confer
ence At the state department With the
Russian ambassador, Baron Rosen. tn
feature Of whi.h Kas the Nan.iurian
question, and in eonseQusnee wAen ths
aABbassador left Washington Tor Nsw
York on his way to Russia h bcre
with him the last words Of the Amer
lean state department on that import
ant subject The interview vs. -
inently satisfactory on both aidsA
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
Reserve Agents.

The New Hibernia National Bank
of New Orleans has been approved
a. reserve agent for the First Nation
al Bank of Lake Charles, La, and the
National Bank of Kentucky Of Louis
vile. and Whitney Central National
Bank Of New Orleans for the Citi-
xens' National Bank of Meridian
Miss.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
BlvOUAC OF THE DEAD.

The mutiiei drums sad roll has beat
The soldiers last tattoo:
No more on l.ife's parade shali meet
That bravr and fallen few
On FAne's eternal camping ground
Their slent tents are spreed,
And Glory guards. with solemn round
The b,vouac Of the doad
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
TRUE GREATNESS 0P
JEFFERSON DAVIS
By GEN. STEPHEN u. LEE.

Jefferson Davis stood the test OF
true greatness; he was the greatest
to those who knew him best. One OF
the marked traits OF Mr.. Davis pri-
vate life was his exquisite courtesy.
He was one OF the most approachable
OF men. as polite and afYable to the
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

The Public Lands Committee Of tho
House reported favorably bill to OK
tend the provisions of the Carey act
TO the Territory Of New Mexico. The
act authorizes states to select public
lands to be reclaimed by irrigation.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
OF On Cruise.

The Rainbow, the flagship Of Rear
Admiral Hemphill, and the gunboats
Helena and Concord. sailed From
Olongapo for Hong Kong. The ships
are starting out on their regular sum-
mer cruise and will visi. various -
attic ports.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
JEFFERSON DAVIS TRIBUTE TO SOUTHERN WOMEN

In the dedication able ''Ths Fall Of
the Confederate hand
follows
To the of the Conferacy whose mnrsion
wounded soldiers soothed those from cb
Of their tcnderet love- domestic hos contributed much
supply the Of 6ed
hons guiding by the darkest
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humblest as to the most exalted.

humblest as to the most exalted. In
his old age Ia Raleigh. N. C.. ne ex-
cused himself to all callers. in order
to- receive the visit OF his former
slave. II is Characteristic OF the man
that he closed his farewell address to
the Senate by apologizing for any pain
which In the heat OF discussion he
might have inflicted. His last words
on earth were. -Please excuse me. :"
Such gentlencss usually mark a man
OF courage. On a memorable occa-
sion he uttered the characteristic
maxim. Never be naughty to the
humble. nor humble to the naughty. "
In seven days no less than 267.-
OO0. zoo herring have been landed at
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

Don't be afraid to work, it is
healthy physical and mental exercise.
Don't be afraid 10 hustle, be glad
Of t1e chance.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

President Roosevelt is said to be
highly wrought up over the defeat
Of the Administrations measures in
Congress.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
clarke on TIE Rules Comm}|

Senator Clarke of Arkansas, has
been selected by the Democratic steer
ing committee Of the Senate, for the
democratic vacancy on the senate COM
mittee on rules.
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

whose fortuds sustained then under al pvations which they
subed whose annual tribute enduring ce love
and for our sacred dead and whose their
revolutionary these children Of on
dedicated BY their countryman.-ye6erson Davis
The new South-news., 1908-04-25
No More Bstti1e.

The Senate passed the House bill
prohibiting betting ON races in ths
District Of Columbia
The new South-news., 1908-04-25

The Senate Committee on Postof-
fees and Postroads voted to report
favorably the postal savings bank
bill.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
ANOTHER VICTORY
FOR CALED0NIANS

BALTIMORE. Nd. Feb. 1.-THE fast
Caledonians of Washington defeated the
Sparrows Point soccer football team
today on the field at the Point, by a
score Of 3 TO /.
Neither side scored until the second
half, when the visitors scored three
times in succession. Crawford, Cowen,
ard Montgomery shot goals for the
Caledonians, and ]. Hastings for the
Pointers.
The lineup was: Caledonians, goal.
Stevenson; backs. AcFarlane and Doug
las; halfbacks- Spence, Montgomery,
and Black; forwards, Crawford, COwsn,
Pe.Tie Bullman and Cameron.
s SpaTrows Point, goal, AIcNab; backs.
Mcclure and r. Ewing; halfbacks, w
Cunningham, r. Newton and Barrett !;
forwards. D. Stewart, J. Hastings. J.
Mcdonald, J. S. Johnson and P. Has
tings.
Referee. John Higgins; linesmen, j.
Elder. Caledonians. and p. Stewart,
Sparrows Point.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
COLUMBIA FENCERS
LOSE TO hIDDIES

ANNAPOLIS, Nd, Feb. 22-After
tine Naval Academy fencers had taken
the lead this afternoon by winning the
first three bouts, the swordsmen Of
Columbia made a strong fight, and only
lost tie match by four bouts 10 five.
Up 20 the eighth bout the visitors
had a chance TO win. but Midshipman
Brandt defeated Byrne. OF Columbia,
making the winning score for the
Navy. The fifth bout, between CAPTAIN
Burdick, Of the Navy team, and Byrne.
of Columbia, resulted in a tie twice.
but the third attempt was won by
Byrne. The bout took place after the
regular events. Amend and By~ne. Of
the visitors, each won two OF his
three bouts. but Perrine failed TO take
any. The first bout between Amend
and Burdick, the two captains, was
also a tie. but the Navy man won the
fence off.
The ummary-Burdick Navy, de-
feated Amend. Columbia, after a tie;
Brandt. Navy. defeated Byrne. Column
bia; Eyerson. Navy, defeated Ferrine.
Columbia: Amend. Columbia. defeated
Brandt, Navy; Byrne, Columbia, de-
feated Burdick, Navy. after two ties;
Amend. Columbia, defeated Everson.
Navy: Burdick, Navy. defeated Per-
rine, Columbia; Byrne, Columbia, de-
feated Everson. Navy; Brandt. Navy,
defeated Perrine, Columbia.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
NEW RECORD MADE
ON FRISCO TRACK
Meelick Runs Mile and
Quarter Tor New
Mark.

SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. @2-There
was no Uncle or ChapulteDec n the
California Derby, ana AIeeliel, 81 the 3.
g. I4ildreth stable, with EDDIE Dugf.a
IA the saddle, has, no tro'fble . wiariug
from the fair sort that went 10 taf posi-
and broke The record forethe distance.
The race was the RurHs 0ReF again.
with Meelick I'm the star part ia place
Of Moutgomery MeeHck ran Jhc nile
and a-quarter IN 2:O5 2-5. Toe old mark.
Z.0iA. was made by Joe Frey seve9sI
seasons back. Meelick was an oGds-0n
Gvorite.
Although the big bettOrs we're ca
posed to follow the commission @ the
owner OF AIeelick. The holiday cro.-C in
clined bit toward Stanley Fay. ore
Of the greatest througs In the history OF
the track saw the eight picked thor
oughbreds parade BY the grandstand.
Coming down the stretch the first
time, Creston and Early Tide were
closest 10 AIeeIck, with Stanley Fay
running strong I'm fourth position
Hayes had d good hold on Walker $
sali0per, and kept MIN next TO the rail.
On tne back stretch Meelick was sew
eral lengths Ia front, and as he was go
ing easy. it was seen the race was as
and Early Tide, under Knapp urglag.
was bounding along in second pl.
Hayes was sdll holding the rail v ith
Stanley Fay, and did not really get
clear sailing until the stretch but hcre
he came on in bulldog fashion, and beat
out Early Tide for the place
THE Derby record was broken. md
when Ramus romped under the VIE IA
the Cup Preliminary at a mile ant
three-quarters, a new mark was SCI for
the track al that distance. Ramus
clipped fOUr-fifths of a second from the
record.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
RESERVES TO ROW
TECHNICAL HIGH
Will Race on Day of George
town Contest With
N. Y. u.

In q conference with Manager KEEP
hart, of the Georgetown Preparatory
School eight yesterday, Manager Woods
secured the agreement of the latter TO
race Technical High School on May g
on the Same day as the varsity race
with New York University, so thaF
this race along with a race 70 be ar
"a nged for the Georgetown second crew
VIII complete the program for the day,
making three races In all.
Coach Vail has had his men out on the
water for three days and though the
weather has been unsettled the results
obtained have been highly satisfactory
to both the men and their instructor
The new candidates are showing up well
and il is thought that the Georgetown
eight for 1908 viii be stronger than those
of the past two years
Within the next month there will be
a race for medals between three crews
that are TO be picked by Coach Vail, and
from that time on all the work viii be
centered toward preparing for the New
York University race All the men are
taking 10 the Harvard stroke that is
being introduced by the new coach. and
whether the results will be as satisfact-
ory as those obtained by use Of the
Dempsey. stroke remains 10 be seen
Interest in crew work has picked up
considerably ct Georgetown this year.
Then men are working with a vim that
has failed TO characf erie the practice
of former years. and his in itself means
a great deal. The size OF the candidates
for the 1903 crew averages larger than
for two years and 1t is expected that
the Georgetown eight will average well
in the neighborhOOd OF six feet and
weigh close TO lao pounds, instead Of be-
ing close 20 80, a. has been the case
heretofore.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
Entries for Monday.

First race-Three AID a half furlongs.
Romp. GrOttO, Regards, 104, BOOkbinder,
Tommy W a. Leach, IU4; Edwin l..
1I2, MOritZa 1JI. Columbus, Frappe, 1t4.
Dispute. Westmore, AL Red, Counter,
SiiverJon, 10I-
Second race - Steeplechase; short
course. Jim Hutton. 129. Berry Waddell-
rs; Dacra. I38; Dell LeaUh, 146. Coal
Black Lady. ~; Dunning. l55; Kemp
Ridgely, 132; Captain farrell, l3S; Lin
dale. 40; Waterway, 147; Rip, 155; sam
Hodheimer 15S.
Third race-Selling; one and one-six-
teeutn miles. DiXweN, MOXey Mead.
Heap Talk, Major, 102: Beraud, jr., b IN
Walmsley, 107; Tom Kelly, no; Dorset
Mason. Busy Boy. TOP: Water Coo er,
Jos; Tyrol. 10I; CosteT. Jennie's Beau. 80
Fourth race-One mile. Hans. SO;
Hanbridge, 80; BRnridge. 50; Severus,
IS; Albert Star, 50; ST. Ilario, 103,
Fifth race-One mile. Lad Of Lang
don, 103; ZipangO, lee; Hyperion II, los;
Ace High, l03; Quagga, 1u6; TokalOn,
100.
Sixth race-Selling; seven furIongs.
DOdger. 102; Miss StTOme. 105: Posing,
les; Jersey Lady, 109. Caper. So; Gibson,
l01; EsCutCheOn, 1o4i DR.. McCiuer, 105;
Beau Brummel, l0l; Ananias, Ill.
Seventh Selling. Mile and a six
102. Hadur, 102; Belle Scott 100. Del
more, 105; The Clansrnan. l05: l.afav-
cite, 1e7: GilpiH. 10; Donna Elvira, 95:
Gid, 102; Sam Rice. 102; Anna Ruskin,
100: Rappahannock, 100. Gun. I07; High
Bear, 10.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
York Quint Wins
BY Singlc Point;
Leaders Are Tied
One-Handed Goal Defeats
BaltimOTe-Teams Evenly
Matched.

YORK. Pa, Feb. ga one-haaded
goal from a difficult angle caused York
Y. NJ c. A TO win from Central
Branch. Baltimore, in a closely fought
basketball contest here tonight by 20
TO 10.
AS a result the locals are tied with
the Balumoreans for first place IN the
Tri-City League championship series.
The feat that landed the locals as vic
tors was done by Grouse, 2 forward.
The playing OF Gemmlu and Kelleu-
berg, local guards. was not equaled
on the York floor this year. They were
with the ball continuously. and aideO
materially IN preventing what other
wise might have been L. one-sided
game.
All the players were in fine fettle,
and the team work was about even.
The locals took the visitors on jump
as they were determined TO be IN the
race for the league championship
They closed the first half with twelve
of the seventeen points scored to their
credit The Central Branch hve soon
had the score tied in the second half,
and il was not until a moment before
the contest closed that the deciding
point was scored
Fry. Baltimore center, did The most
effective work for his team. re made
the first point of the game by throw
ing a goal from a foul
The lineup:
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
FAVORITES GET SOME SAD
JOLTS AT NEW ORLEANS
Continued from Second Page)

tlDutinueQ from second EdSc.J
dell. Gault. Dawson. Bank Holiday. and
ItacatiaTa also ran.
Third race-Seuing; three-year-oIds
and upward seven furlongs. Hawka-
ma, 1O4 (Skirvin). 10 to /. won. Aunt
Rose, "a (Henry). even, second; FL
Time, 1880 Is. Apache. Zagg, Halbard.
and Phil Finch also ran.
Fourth race - Martha Washington
Stakes; for twO-y ear-olds; three and
one-half furIOugs. Miss Highland. 10
11s lMiuderJ. II 10 3. second; After AL.
10 (SUmter). s to J. third. Time
Gs4S as. Yankee DaughteF, Pinion
Elizabeth HaFWoOd, ATiOuette. Ken
mare Queen, Alice, Sister ollie, and
Cunning also ran.
Fifth race-Purse. ree-year-oIds and
upward; six furlongs. Jack Akin. AS
CMcDanieD. 10 10. won; COoney X. 103
(Murphy} Is 20 I second; Old Honesty,
III u. Lee, 10 10 J. third Time. lib So.
Jersey Lady, ConvOivO Cablegram,
Meadowbreeze, and Coll0quy also ran
sixth race-Seven furlongs: selling.
John Carroll. Ill Leel. 4 20 !, won;
Beuwether. 50 GraD. y 20 !. second ;
L. T. Ship, 81 CAIurphy). - 10 ], third.
Time. 1.29. TeO Beach, Lady Anne. and
OraCulum also ran
Seventh -race-SeIling; one and one
eighth miles JUggler, ll6 (McDauie),
10 -, won: Alma DufOuT, I01 Uee),
TO ]. second. Donna 100 Smith. p
10 /, third Time 1.57 So. Ace High.
Dr. MCCiueT sam Taylor. and IVduhOe
also ran.
The Washington times., 1908-02-23
OPENING POOL MATCH
Of SERIES TOMORROW

The Sherman-Long pool match which
was to have taken place last week
VIII begin tomorrow eEening at - Z
Brunswick Pool ParlOrs
The match was postponed in order -
arrange a 1,210-bau match for a side
bet, coo balls TO be played in Washing
ton and COO balls in Baltimore.
Long is a pool player Of naticna
reputation. Long has given a good por-
ton of his time daily to practice, nay
ing Walter Wallace. also a weIl-known
local pool expert as practice man with
him in his workouts Every promise Is
given Of an exciting contest The game
viii continue on Tuesday and Wednes-
day nights. and viii be 210 balls eacu
night. beginning at O'Clock Muir
ray Clark, also q local expert, viii
referee