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Bills Of Moment
sn N0i8nsHlHiRaasHaR9RiR493H
HOUSE BILL NO. 377
nN APPROPRIATION COMMlTTEE

Entitled an necessary OF state government
and making appropriations therefor state Treasury Of
oeahoma
BE IN ENACTED THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA
appropriated ont Of the Treasury OF
state Oklahoma otherwise appropriated the sum
az 5os.5O which together S25ooo passed and APP
proved appropriation ssespo OF 50
much thereof may for which IL is appro
ated and ote Auditor shah draw warrants upon the
state be found to be due upoa
the auditing respective Of the persons to whom
such claims all claims accounts against this
state shan be sworn audited and SHAH
have approved officer whose favor the
same IS issued shall be drawn upon
the this act in excess Of the
amount allowed further that moneys shall be
sed any purpose which it specifically oppro
~ All moneys appropriated shall at the close
the fiscal year 1909 revert to State OF Oklahoma
GOVERNORS
Governors salary $4,000 per 10 IL
from Nov 1867 1903. inclusive ...... 7sl26O
Private secretary $4,000 annum a
sssss 2s per mo ~ 10 mos Nov 1s 1907 to
Executive Clerk Governor salary at si25
per mG sO 1907 24S5O
Of 500 for 10000
scnoerarher $1,000 at 800
per month 1907 June 80 1902 $4,000
Esirs sencgrapber Governor salary 800 for
postage exprcgs
Office to he determined by
him .tt..''.',. ..'.ts's'. SVOVVV
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SheghO
ExAMiNER Avn fNsrEtsroR

IxAMiNER AND fNsrECfoR
$4,000 auuuH, $3.50
70 1907 20 June 80 o........... $4,000
LABOR COMMISSIONERS
$1,000 $1,000
no. q 80 S25OOO
COMMISSIONER or CHARITIES AND CORRECTIONS
coamssiope Charities Corrections
num- por go 2is1so
Charities salary
per mo, mos Dee le 1907 to june 80 sas75o
sicnographer salary per mo- mos,
s iie25O
including
Total. ............... sis75o
Sum total. .ss790s75o
appropriation ......
ss54os75O
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
Guthrie Okla II, 1905
SPEAKER
We committee Appropriations having had
the
officers beg follows:
We considered the the State
beginning Of
fiscal covering
Secretary State Auditor Attorney
State
Commission Librarian superintendent
Labor Commissioner
and Twenty-Five District Judges said payable monthly
thi bill
approved
making every
item of the bill recommended that the bill reported
G. C. wInTEHURsT,
Chairman.
r. McCALIA
w. A DuRANT.
b. r.
J.
f.
vANDBvENTER.
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Total.
DISTRICT Judges

per annum at
cach 10 ~ o
state supt salary $500 s2osss 1s per
NOV ls 1907 to 30 ...
First Asst. salary $4,000 per
Nov is 1907 80. ssSooo
Clerk salary $1,000 per
IS 1907 80 aoo..........,.. .-... .. s,snso
steuosrapher 200 por mo, mos,
IS 1907 June 80 i. ......
Incidental etc. per a-sA mos,
Nov ls 1907 to June 80 OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES.
Total. .......,.......
STATE PRINTER
State Printer salary, $4,000 s
~ le 1907 10 80
Assistant $i5o9 per mo- moa
Nov is 1907 80 s.................t.... a55
senogmpher 5000 per no. IS -
Nov IS 1907 June
Contingent
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ATTORNEY GENERAL.

Attorney General sfoot per ssasss 10
mos Nov 80 1909. ..........,.. 6bOO0o
Attorney General salary $4,000 at $3.50 per
mo % - mos Nov ie 10 june 3d. 1909. ..... tslsoo
salary $4,000 $3.50 per
mo 10 la mos Nov ie to June sO 1909 ...... 4s75oo
salary $4,000 $3.50
mo Is - mos Nov is to June 80 1909 ....... 4s75oo
the Corporation Conn., salary provided
in appropriation corporation commission.
i9 IL
mos Nov 1c 1907 to june so 1909 ........... $4,000
seuographer 500 10 IL
mos Nov IS 1907 to juno 80 1909 .......... $4,000
stenogapher s75 10 12
mos Nov 1e 1907 to june so 1909 .....,.... 1Ae25O
telephone telegraph travelling
expenses records books etc. 100000
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STATE TREASURER
State Treasurer's salary, $4,000 $3.50
ie 1909 .............. ts75oo
chei Clerks salary $500 apnum. at $3.50 10 ~
o .s.................
Bond Security clerE 500
mo Nov 10 1907 to 80 ....... $4,000
Hookheepers salary, $1,000 at 800 10 ~
80 ...................
ssoosaphers 5000 s75 10 re
o 80
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;
INSPECTOR
Inspector per
...................
Inspector
ie. ................ a4s75o
ono per per
80 .................. a4s75o
One stenographer per
ile25O
Contingent expenses including travelling expenses
postage ........ w Observation-Disclosures 100000
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CORPORATION COMMISSION.


CORPORATION COMMISSION.
sas Corporation per
saaass months Ie
1907 TO June ,.--..... 10000
secrearys salary $4,000 siGGcc
10 2 months, 1907
Corporation chief corporations
$1,000 5000 month 10 ~ months. November
80 isos....... ........... ..... 100000
Expert Rate Clerk. $25Oo s2OS3S
month 10 IL months
s25OO annum
SO 1s MONTH 10 t2 months November 16 1907
........ ......... 4Os25O
Civil Engineer salary $4,000
80 ......... 4s75Oo
Special Assistant Attorney Attorney
Genera! salary $4,000 $3.50 month 19 12
November ........ ,.... 4s75OO
Two Official stenographes salary per
month each 10 10 months 1907
One senographer $500 annum. $40 per
............. 1462bO
Marshal salary $500 $l25 12 mos
.,.......... -. 24s75O
witnesses 100000
Contingent including telegraph telephone
travelling OF commissioners employees
inspection holding capital 25OOOOO
Printing orders required constitution
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LIBRARIAN

Librarian salary $1,000 500 per 10 10
Nov e. 1907 lime 80 1903
Asst Librarian per sSSSS per no.
Nov l6 1907 June 80 i9O9..
For State Library to be expended under tie direction Of tn
supreme Court Tor books, fixtures
Contingent expenses ... ....
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STATE AUDITOR

State s25oO annun. $2osss s
10 o 1903. ......... 4o625O
nov Z 1907 % 70 june June % loos ..,......r.... ssssoo
chief Clerks salary, 10 l2
nos Nov ls 1901 to june so 1909 ...........
Clerks salary $1,000 per annum, al per
mos Nov ic 1907 to june 3d. 1903 ........... $4,000
10 12
le 1907 80 1909 Observation-Disclosures. l4e2oo
Bookkeepers salary. 10 10
Nov l6 1907 to June 80 1909 ................ 95oOo
Contingent expenses .................. 100000
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Total, ...................
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER. ..4.4.

INSURANCE COMMISSIONER H.. 49,. ~.
Insurance Commissioner salary $1,000
s2Oss3 So
1909 4Os25O
salary, s1soo $3.50 10 12
Nov ls 1907 to juno 80 1909 ............... sss5oo
salary per annum per 10 10
mos Nov o 1907 to June 80 i9oe ............. z4s75o
General Clerk, slOo 10 IL
no. 10 ls mos Nov e 1907 to 80 o5ooo
500
iG 80 1909, 95OOO
Contingent including freight
and postage 100000
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YESTER-
DAYS HOUSE
JOURNAL

CONTINUED from Page 81
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LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS OFFICE

LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS OFFICE
sSS3s 3
mo ~ az ........... l6250o
SECRETARY
sec o at s2oSs3 l3 per mo
Il il mos Nov ie 1907 10 Ime 80 1909 .......
Asst secy Of anrean sG666 23
1907. 1909. .......,... Sa5Q0Q
Corporation salary $500 annum. at
per &C. 1907 to June 80 1909 2iSf5O
Recording 500 10 ~
o ....,..s-...... 195o0O
Clerk sl5e9 SIPS
mo- 10 ia mos Nov io 1907 70 jane so 1903 . sAs75o
Recording Clerk $1,000
june co. 1903, 16250o
including freight tee
graph Telephone and books etc. .............., 100000
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Use DeWitt's Little Early Rsers,
pleasant little pills They are easy
to take Sold by G K. Renlro.
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!. r. McCALLA.
W. a. DURANT.
b. r. WILLIAMS.
e. J. EARLE
BEN f. WILSON
VANDBVENTER
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
Nothing Vas Found Out.

Friday afternoon, August 14th,
Mayor Graham had Messrs. A.
E. Lloyd, j. C. Niche, W. j.
Griswold and W. B. Guthrie sum-
moned before him to testify re-
garding the illegal sale of intoxi-
eating liquors in the city of Dur
ham. The matter was then car
ried over until Monday to be
heard before Judge Jones. The
court set Thursday night for the
hearing. and it took place in
Mayor Graham's Office last night.
Some of the questions were
answered, but Messrs. Winston
& Bryant, attorneys for the
above named, objected and their
contention was sustained and
the matter went off the record
with no knowledge gained, and
for the present the matter will
rest.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
AmuSengntS.

The matter Of amusements in
Durham for almost any one is
settled in a large measure, es-
pecially for working people that
spend their hours in doors and
have little opportunity to get
out.
The electric cars give good
service and a ride to either East
or West Durham is refreshing
after a hard days work, or if so
disposed you may 90 out to Lake
wood park and do as you please
or go in the Casino and witness
a show, go down to the bowling
alley, ride on the merry-go-
round, skate. or to the dancing
pavilion and watch the dancers
or take part.
The Durham Auto company is
constantly arranging excursions
that afford a pleasant hour for
any so disposed, and in fact
there is no lack Of amusement,
for If you do not care to go out
10 get fresh air the electric thea.
ters will furnish you an hours
amusement any time.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
A Quiet Wedding.

Miss Margaret Emma Brown
was united in marriage to Mr..
Z. H. Dinkelbihler at her home
Tuesday evening. The ceremony
was performed by Rev. Z. r.
Leyburn, pastor of the First
Presbyterian church.
They will make their home in
Durham, and for the present
have taken rooms with the brides
mother. The groom is a travelling
manwith headquarters here.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
REPUBLICAN CONVENTION SEPTEMBER 2.
v. G. Bramham for The legislature =
Campaign Matters Discussed.

The republican county execu-
tive committee met in the office
of Messrs. Giles & Sykes last
night and the most important
matter was the decision of the
date for the county convention,
which will nominate all county
officers.
Quite a number of prominent
Republicans were present and
plans for the coming campaign
were discussed. The county con-
vention was called to meet Sep
tember the I'd, at which time a
full ticket will be put in the
field.
Among the candidates posi-
bly, Mr.. w. G.. Bramham is the
most likely for the legislature.
In fact since the recent campaign
for prohibition, in which Mr..
Bramham is credited with a Wis.,
tory for the vets, there has been
much favorable talk of sending
him to the legislature by Repub-
licans. No other candidate has
been mentioned in this connec-
ton.
This cannot be said of the can
didates for the Office of sheriff,
but the most prominent, or rath-
er the most likely candidate is
Mr.. ]. B. Warren, while Messrs.
Jack Barbee, w. E. Neal and
Hal Wilkins have been mentioned
in this connection.
Candidates for the other coun-
ty offices have not received
much consideration, in fact who
they will be does not seem to
have been discussed. Saturday
week will determine the men
that are to carry the Republican
banner in the coming campaign
and there is much interest as to
the ticket that will be put out.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
Country Store Robbed.

Near his home in Lebanon
township. Mr.. j. G. Latta con-
ducts a small store for the &C.
commodation of himself and
neighbors. The clerk does not
stay in the store all the time,
but can be found somewhere
near when anyone wants any
thing.
A few days ago some one en-
tered the store by breaking in
and stole all the cash in the
drawer and carried off numerous
small articles.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04

The congregation of the Sec
ond Baptist church have arranged
to have a picnic at Christians
mill next Tuesday night. The
crowd that wants to go will 60
by automobile and the fare for
the trip will be so cents, the
profits to be used by the church.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
A Child Dead.

The 1S-months.old child of Mr..
and Mrs. J. V. Markham, Of
West Durham, died at the home
of its parents Tuesday of the
Group.
The funeral and burial took
place Wednesday afternoon. the
burial being in the Proctor bury.
ing ground.
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
BROOKS And KITCHEN SPEAK
In Sufry County Court House Tuesday
at Noon.

ry county court house at Dobsor
to-day W. w. Kitchin, Democra.
tic candidate for Governor, and A.
L. Brooks, candidate for Congress
in the fifth district, formally open.
ed the regular campaign by Wig
orous speeches to a packed court
house of seven hundred men and
women, attracted from all sec.
tions of the county. The attend.
ance, considering the recent
floods and active work in delayed
saving of the tobacco and fodder
crops by the farmers of this agri-
cultural county, is considered by
local authority as most propitious
of Democratic success.
Mr.. Kitchin spoke first and
dealt largely with State affairs,
contrasting strongly the profess
ions of the Republican platform
for the peoples interest by nomi-
mating as its candidate for Gov
ernor Mr.. Cox, a clever gentle
man but a typical representative
of interests now known to be con-
Quoted without regard to the
general welfare. His discussion
of national affairs was exhaustive
and able, showing up the insin-
cerity of national Republican
leaders in processing to desire
the adoption of measures advo-
Gated by Bryan, while running a
candidate nominated by Federal
office-holders of the South, who
faced one way East, another
West, but whose campaign was
being supplied with funds by the
great monopolies and trusts
whom the President cried aloud
against, but whose only weapon
had been words.
Mr.. Brooks spoke but a few
minutes yet thoroughly aroused
the audience by a fine presentat-
ion of Democratic principals as
compared with Republican prac-
tices. The county has been three
hundred strong Republican, and
many Republicans were present,
it being noted that no one left
the audience during the two hours
discussion, and strictest attention
was paid to every word spoken
by the candidates, the applause
being hearty and frequent. The
signs to-day, say local leaders,
are most favorable for a Demo-
cratic majority in Surry this
year. Both candidates were we'll
received and expressed gratifca-
ton at this their first formal ap-
pearance since the Republican
convention named its candidates
at Charlotte.
Mr.. kitchin crosses the Blue
Ridge tonight to speak at Sparta
Wednesday, thence touring the
across the mountains.
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Win deadly weapon, called anC
failed.
James Scarborough, carrying
concealed weapons, ditto; third
case, carrying concealed weapon.
ditto.
Sol Williams, carrying conceal.
ed weapons, called and failed.
Same for larceny.
Clarence Sears and Ella Will.
Jams, f. and a., called and failed.
Sam Snider and Fred Smith,
gambling, called and failed.
Jerry Markham, retailing, not
guilty. ...,
Aaron Seat, retailing, contin-
ued by consent.
R. l. Pollard, retailing, mol
pros with leave.
James Ellis, retailing not gull
ty.
]. E. Johnson, false pretense,
called and failed.
Lester Overton and Ernest Wig
gins, larceny, called and failed as
to Overton, Wiggins granted a
continuance.
Will Robinson, cruelty to ami
mails, continted.
AL Carroll, carrying concealed
weapons, mol pros with leave.
AL Carroll, assault with dead
ly weapon, SIS and costs.
Henry Neal, assault and bat
terry with deadly weapon, off
docket.
James Strickland, retailing, mol
pros.
Weldon johnson, retailing,
called and failed.
Steadman Conklin, retailing,
called and failed.
Buck Darlington, larceny, $40
and costs,
Will Darlington, retailing,
eighteen months on the roads.
Henry Evans larceny, called
and failed. Alberta Barbee, not
guilty.
Harrison Garland and Alma
Cooley,f. and a., Garland twelve
months and Cooley girl cor six
Grant Smith boisterous swear
ing. S. and costs.
Bud Perry, assault with deadly
weapon. not guilty.
An amusing incident occurred
in the superior court room We'd
nesday when the parade of the
Rabbit Foot show was passing.
The crowd of negroes that hang
around the court house made a
rush for the door as soon as they
heard the band and the judge or
dered that they sit down. 1t was
rather difficult to carry out his
instructions. but many that
to see the parade and
hear the band better had to
forego that pleasure. The judge
that he had been both
cred the day before with a
parade and did not propose to be
nterfered with in such manner
Wednesday.
a.a-. d. d. . ...,s..... 4. .-.a--
The Durham recorder. [volume] (Durham, N.C.) 1879-19??, 1908-09-04
THE SUPERIOR COURTS GRIND
EnIlty Punished and the Innocent
Released.
EIyy PRISONERS SENT TO THE ROADS.
York Of Durham Superior Court In
Detail Judge, Solicitor, Other
Court Officials and Lawyers
Hard al Work.
Hard at Work.

The session of superior court
|pr the trial of criminal cases
his week is clearing up the
ocket and many cases of minor
Importance have been settled,
thile several of more importance
ave been decided and as a re-
Elt the county roads will be
realty strengthened. Following
Re the cases decided since our
list issue: -
H.. NJ. Ward, assault with dead
weapon. mol pros with leave.
IW. E. Blackwood, retailing
billed and failed.
IWilliam Wilcox, retailing in
Tree cases. renews bond and
Spias to issue for witness.
|Ruffin Num-, retailing, mol
los.
ITom Herndon, assault with
badly weapon. not guilty.
willie Miller, larceny, not
lily.
George Barton, assault with
adly weapon, not guilty.
Dallas Bailey, assault with
adIy weapon, guilty, sixty
Is on roads.
klphonso Tyndall indecent ex-
bition of himself, called and
led.
Bob Pratt and Della Tucker. f.
a. Pratt Is months on the
Dds, the girl 6 months.
yona,. Williams. retailing,
by. one year on the roads.
Soah Brown, Robert Weaver.
l;"r Hobbs. King Harris. Jim
ncil, gambling. Noah Brown
$50 and one-third costs.
pert Weaver fined S25 and
-third costs, Walter Hobbs
same. Stancil and King
rrjs not guilty.
lin Lockhart, larceny, not
IT,.
b" Dunnegan, gambling.
,.i and failed.
imon Day, gambling, pleads
r.. so and costs.
ng Roberts. assault with
iy weapons and carrying
"aled weapons, pleads guilty.
months on the roads.
PAUL Collins, injury to personal
Icrty, guilty. 80 days on the
H..
am Allen, Andrew Jackson,
Austin. and Press Saunders,
fbIing, 30 days each on the
b..
'orge Watson, manning the
Of A. A. Thacker, guilty. so
On the roads.
.ycster Dollar, 0tho Hol-
aud Ernest Turner, gamb-
Holman not guilty, Dollar
Turner get 30 days each.
|arvey Austin, assault with
y weapon, not guilty.
Williams. larceny, guilty, |
Years on the roads.
b" trial Of Tom Linthicum for
ling was up when the court |
burned.
IN Linthicum, retailing, not
y.
ln Powell. carrying concealed
'ons, guilty and 60 days on
roads.
&c Hayes, retailing, contin-
Tor the defendant.
III Trice, larceny, guilty and
honths on the roads. /
I've Rome, false pretense, not
y.
c Mercer and Whey Mercer,
my, guilty. $40 land half costs
mes Scarborough, assault
Bisbee daily review., 1908-08-08
FOREST FIRES.

The instinct of self-preservation should be sufficient to induce com munity which inhabits a densely for ested region to adopt precautions against forest fires. It is a reproach to civilization that there should be fires as destructive of human life as those which swept over the Green Bay region of Wisconsin in 1871 and those now raging in British Columbia. About 1000 died in the first mentioned fires. and the others, while terrible enough. will not be equally disastrous.
 Where forests are a danger they should be polieed. says the Chicago Tribune. The cost will be trifing as compared with the loss that may fol- low an omission of this insurance measure. There should be forest rang
 CTS to catch fires at the start and put them out. or to give timely warning of their approach if it be impossible
Bisbee daily review., 1908-08-08

to extinguish them. The patroling of the forest reserves of the United States in the west, coupled with a few other simple precautions. has resulted in a notable decrease in the number of fires. There the chief object is to save the forests themselves. In bet ter settled regions the object would be to save life as well as property.
 It is hard to imagine a more horrify- ing situation than that of little com munity suddenly confronted with the fury of a swiftly advancing forest fire. Hardly ever would people have to read with a shudder of men and wo- men in such a fiery furnace if the en- circling woods were better watched. It should be the duty of the Canadian government to take steps to prevent the repetition of the needless sacrifice of life in British Columbia.
Bisbee daily review., 1908-08-08
GREAT NEED
 FOR FORESTS.

The United States may well need the example of Spain In the early part of the Christian era the southern slopes of the Appenines were covered with a heavy forest growth, and as late as 600 years ago there was no lack of timber throughout the coun- try. Now the extent of the forest area has shFunk to less than one-fourSh that of West Virginia, though the country itself is as large as the com bined areas of North Carolina, yir- ginfa. Delaware, West Virginia, Mary land and Pennsylvania.
 In the time when Spain had forests of her own worthy of the name. she was engaged in the spoliation by force of arms of surrounding nations. The accumulation of foot was more at.rac- tive to her adventurous spirits than the preservation of her natural re sources. SO while her sons gathered spoil from many cIimes and spent it freely as became freebooting gentle, men. her forests were suffered to de. cay, no attempt was made to replen. ish the loss by age. fire and neces. sary use, undl now. for ali practical