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Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
PASSENGERS ARRIVED

Per s. S. Mauna Kea, Freeman,
from lIilo and Maui. Oct. 10. - W.
Wilson. Miss NJ. +. Waltz, J. Schwartz
Mrs. Schwartz, Miss G. Spaulding.
Miss M. Toon, r. II. Martin. Mrs.
Martin. r. Barwick, Mrs. Barwick.
II. Il. Paxton, Mrs. Paxton, A. NJ.
Cabrinha, Mrs. J. Pickard. T.. Beau
.doin. NJ. Beaudoin, Mrs. T. Mclean
and child, Master T. Mclean, c. VOL
ters, Mrs, p. 7. Phillips. J. X. Ketch-
eson, Jno. Kidwell. Mrs. NJ. Wake
field, V. Hurd, X. iialding, s. Matsu-
motto, G. Wichert. l.. McClennon, Mrs.
McClennon, Kim Fook, G. Fook, Mas
ter All Tim, ID. -. Maconachie, Mr..
Taylor, Mrs. G. l.. Kupa and in
FAINT, Geo. Chalmers, Miss +. Peter
son, Sam Parker and two servants,
Miss H. Morse, Thos. Jones, Jno. Lind
sey, II. Hahalewai, Rev. Il. w.
Thwing, c. NJ. Roberts, C. o. Hotel,
j. Il. Bergstrom. Miss c. X. Turner,
Mrs. c. B. Wells. NJ. FaIn, Jas. Morse
Hong Chack, J. Glenn, Mrs. J. Glenn.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
ANOTHER GIBSON
CONTINUED from Pace ~

people realized that unless they went
actively into the fight to Offset this
work, all would be injured. The re-
suit was that Gibson was knocked
out, but only after long period Of
trouble which hurt the people and
hurt the country. The Hawaiians
finally realized that people .of Glib
sons stamp were not their true
friends. They came to their senses
and worked hand in hand with men
like II. p. Baldwin, Gay, w. o. Smith
and men who have the best inter-
ests of the Islands and its people at
heart 49,.
"Now another Gibson has come in
to the field in the shape of l.. l.. Nc
Candies, who rs doing his best to
prejudice the Hawaiians against these
same men, the true friends of the
citizens of the Territory. IA
"As one who has the interests OF
my people and my country at heart,
when l saw Link McCandless trying
to do these things II was my duty
and will continue to be my duty to
warn my people to not heed his words
and to be ware of his false promises
"McCandless' charges, that ! draw
the color line. and II 1t isatrue that
my warning to keep away from such
men as Link McCandless and his
false promises is drawing the color
line, then let him say that I an
drawing the color line: Any man
whether he be Hawaiian. ,haole, oil
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anything else. who gives you such
advice as McCandlcss is giving you
Is an enemy of the country. be-
lIeve in the equality of all men. |
will not allow any OF these men to
misreprcsent me In order that they
may mislead the people.
What surprises me the most IT,.
that after calling Baldwin and Gay
and others land grafters, McCandless
has been practising II as much him
self for years. When there are no
more kuleanas for him To get, then
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
WAITE RFRoNT NOTES

4
THE COMING WEEK will be busy
one for the customs inspectors. The
siberia, due tomorrow. with the China
following about the middle of tho
week. the Nicomedia. now due IL, froEi
Yokohama with coo tons Of freight,
the Korea, coming on MondiY from
San Francisco, and the Aora'i:i rnd
the Mariana both due during the week,
from Australia and British Colr;,bia,
will make things hum for a while.
N
THE MAUNA KEA'S cargo when
she came in this morning from IIilo
and Maui included the following
items: | automobile, sheep. mules.
3 bags coin, 4 boxes chickens, 8 bar.
rels tallow, 8 bags cocoa. II crates
celery. 90 packages vegetables, % bags
taro. s bags ava, 81 empty kegs, 30
bags empty bottles, 400 bags -four, 1876
packages sundries.
IT is POSSIBLE that the increased
amount of sugar to be handled next
year by the AmericanlIawaiian com
pany will overcrowd the capacity of
the Tehunantcpcc railway, and will
| make II necessary for the company to
send several of its big freighters
around the Horn with cargoes for New
York.
~
THE LAST bag of sugar represent.
Ing the output Of this season. was TAX.
! on from the railroad wharf yesterday
| by the a. II. s. S. Columbian, sailing
| for kahIlIi and HilO She cpnnlptp 90
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
LOCAL AND GENERAL
A Bulletin Want Ad. is a
household help, when new servants
are wanted.
Thurlow's for a lunch or dinner.

ThurlOw's Tor q lunch or dlnner.
Rent Franklin cars. Stkyds. Stbls.
Rev. Il. w. 'rhwing came back from
Hawaii
Ring up No. c. Go home in an auto
hack, soc.
A Gordon setter has been lost See
Lost column.
Secretary Mott.Smith called on the
Japanese Consul this morning.
! Whitney 4 Marsh are showing a
dainty line Of new embroderies.
Mrs. c. B. Wells of Waikiki was
among the arrivals today from Maui.
G. VOTERS Of Kau, Hawaii, came
down in the Mauna Kea today on bus
mess.
The postponed meeting of the Oahu
Cemetery Association appears in this
| issue.
Father Powell will preach at st.
Clements church tomorrow morning
at II o'clock.
! Col. Sam Parker returned this morn
ing from Hawaii, having made a round
trip In the Mauna Kea
Judge Robinsons Jurors are re-
| quested to be In attendance Monday,
when cases are to be tried. .
On account of the Democratic rally
TO be held at Aala park tonight, there
viii he no Home Rule.Labor meeting.
Take your carriage Ut automobile
to Hawaiian Carriage Manly. Co.. for
up .to.dste repairs.
Eddie Finn and Geo. Reid of tho
Aiaileua, 'he popu'ar ih'Ao'oS' s's' u'o
now easing thirsts al Al lhurIow y
Royal Annex. -
Beautiful Faii millinery now on eN'
hibition ut parlOrs OF MISS Power III
Boston DOCK. The styles are all new
and are very pleasing.
The Souza divorce case Is still be
lore Judge Lindsay, put IL VIII prop
ably be finished late this afternoon, or
De continued untiI monday.
Lopez. the Porto Rlcah VINO rev
months ago created STIR as a iugi.
tive from justice, has been released
from the oahu Prison, having served
his term.
zee Chan d Co, King and Bethel,
are showing splendid new line OF
haneletteS az lOc q yard. They also
have beautiful line OF grass linens
and silks.
i Inc leaders OF the Home Rule'Labor
party left at ] 80 O'Clock this afternoon
10 hold meeting. at kaneohe. com
menclng at ! O'Clock. They VIII re-
turn THIS evening. ..-...
George tairchild has written from
Kauai placing the use or his home and
automobiles at the disposal of Govern.
or Froar when the latter makes the
tour OF that island. r.
me Catholic Chnrch OF st. John the
Baptist, kalihi'waena, In charge OF
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he viii probably stop trying to get
more land.
1T would he great pleasure for
me 10 meet Mr. McCandlcsa for a
joint debate ON the stump.
"Thcn lie can make his charges
and shall have my say and the peo-
pie can decide for themselves which
is The more. honest and which is the
better friend of the people"
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
COL. STEWART ORDERED TO POST

WASHINGTON C., Oct 9The Retiring Board has finished its
who his
rides Tho Withheld believed that the
"a.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10

The American Association of Tray
cling Passenger Agents, in conven-
ton at Seattle, Wash, unanimously
adopted a resolution favoring the in
crease of freight rates.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
CARNEGIE AND MRS. SAGE CONTRIBUTE

NEW YORK Y, 9Andew today
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
MOB CALLS ON PETER TO RETIRE

BELGRADE Servia, Oct "a
by the people assembled
Cabinet
George his eldest unless the
for the annexation
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PASSENGERS DEPARTED

Ia
Per M. N S. s. Lurlne, Weldon. for
San Francisco, Oct l0-Miss Colman,
Rev. ID. w. Crane. Mrs. ID. W. Crane,
A. w. Eames. DR.. p. Frcar, Mrs. Frear,
q. Gilman, Harold Gavigan, Captain
VIM. MatsOn, Mrs. VIM. Matson, w.
II. Miller, II. V. Mitchell. C. McI.ennan.
Mrs. McLennan, Mrs. c. Morgan and
2 children, Mis-. A. S. Prescott, w. i.
Posuc, Jr., Mrs. Pogue. II. G. Rom
bauer. Mrs. Rombauer, NJ. A. Rose,
Mrs. Rose, Geo. Ross. Mrs. Ross. Mrs.
+. NJ. Wakefield. Miss Grace Wood.
bridge, Mrs. j. w. Wrenn. Master
Wrenn, Stafford Wrenn, John Zeeman
Very little sugar Is now left on Ha.
wall As shown in Purser Pete Phil
lips list, brought up by him on the
Mauna kca the sugar is: Olaa SS3G:
Wainaku, $500; and Punaluu, POO.
~
THE SIBERIA Is due from the Or
lent tomorrow with 600 tons of freight.
ana with room for about 100 cabin
passengers. She will probably go on
to the Coast at p. m.
"a
THE IKE All HOU, Noeau, and Hell.
enc were arrivals In the InterIslapd
lieet this morning.
IA
THE KOREA IL due from San Fran.
cisco with mails Monday.
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IN FOREIGN PORTS


CAVIOTA-Sailed Oct. Z:
Sp. NJ. Il. Chilcott. for Honolulu.
SAN FRANCISCO-Sa Sailed Oct. s:
S. $. Nexican, for Seattle.
PORTL AND-Arrived Oct 8:
Sp. Alexander Isenberg. hence Sept
10.
KAHULUI--Arrive Oct. o:
g. s Columbian, henccs Oct. 8.
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ARRIVED

Saturday. October 10.
Stmr. Mauna kca, Freeman, from
Iilo and Maui. a. IN.
Stmr. Re An Hou, Peterson, from
Kauai a. IN.
Simr. Noeau, Mitchell, from Hama
kua. "A. m.
Stmr. Helene, Nelson, from Hawaii,
n
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10

Full moon Oct . at 10:45 n. m.
Hawaiian standard time is 10 hours
80 minutes slower than Greenwich
time. being that of the meridian OF 157
degrees 80 minutes Tie time whistle
blows at 80 y. M, which is the same
as Greenwich, . hours . minutes. Sun
end moon are for local time ior The
whole group.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
MILITIA OF CRETE GO OVER TO GREECE

CANEA of "A
their fidelity and
forsweang allegiance to key
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
TALK OF NEW ALLIANCE

HONGKONG China here that the object
affecting
the .
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
MIpsHIpMAN Is DISMISSED

d Mdhipman H. of the bateshp dis
missed from having found guilty intoxicated
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
LIEUT.. EVANS MAY ESCAPE

MANILA, p 9The
completed verdict guilty arrived att
Ided
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DEPARTED


Friday, October ..
Stmr. Niihau, Tor Kauai 8 80 p. m.
S. s. Santa Maria, FOR Kahului, 4: 30
y. m.
Stmr. Claulinc. Bennett. for Maui
and Hawaii ports. $50 p. m.
Saturday, October 10.
NJ. N. $. $. Iurline. Weldon. for
San Francisco, 10 u. IN.
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FLEET SAILS FOR YOKOHAMA

MANILA p L. Atlantic Fleet sailed today for Yoke
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1908-10-10
HARMONY LODGE, No. 3, I. o. o. F

Meets every Monday evening Mt
1880 in |. o. o. +. Hall, Fort Street.
Il. II. HENDRY, Secretary.
BEN. L. VICKERS, n. g..
All visiting brothers very cordially
invited.
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Bulletin Business Office Phone 256
Bulletin Editorial Room Phone 1875
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DUE TOMORROW

p. NJ. $, $. Siberia, from Yokohama.
n. IN.
Stmr w. G.. Hall, Thompson, from
Kauai ports, "A. IN.
Stmr Mikahala, Tullett. from Maui
and Molokai ports. a m.
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SAILING TOMORROW

y. NJ. S. $. Siberia, for San Fran.
cisco. probably about 8 y. m.
The Jasper news. [volume] (Jasper, Missouri) 1898-1924, 1908-12-03
BarbarisIn'S Last Stand
Written expressly for this Magazine

for the living, progressive civilization of
those lands which have frankly accepted
the necessity for continuous change.
China, since the Boxer rebellion of few
years ago, when some of the conceit was
taken out of the ruling officials, has been
taking active steps to save herself by q
like opening of doors and minds. 1t has
been promised definitely that a constitu-
tional form of government. will be adopt
ed within few years. Persia has forced
upon an unwilling ruler constitution, but
like the Russian Gar, he is trying in
every way to cheat his people and render
of peril and fright. Turkey has obtained
free government BY revolution and in
few years more will have far more
civilized administration than Russia.
which long has been considered one of
the family of civilized nations. Wherever
freedom of religion, speech and educa-
ton goes the self-interest of the intel
ligent leads to the adoption of the best
features of civilization; and barbarism
and ignorance speedily decline.
One spot where barbarism is making
its last stand is the kingdom of Morocco,
where there has been successful though
not fully consumated revolution, not, as
elsewhere, against ancient wrongs, but
against ruler suspected of having lean
ing toward civilization. Three years ago
it seemed that Morocco speedily would
gain civilization through peaceful pene-
tration on the part of the French; but the
unexpected action of Germany, actuated
by jealousy al move in expansion which
she could not share, gave the Mahometan
fanatics the needed encouragement and
from that day to this Morocco has been
engaged in war and stepped in misery.
In time civilization will triumph here as
elsewhere; but meantime, it is interesting
to take look at the country where bar
barism is making its last stand.
The ancient name of Mauritania was
applied to the present Morocco and part
Of Algeria, the country to the eastward
being known as Numinda. The native
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population, stretching westward from
Egypt to the Atlantic, between the Great
Desert and the Mediterrancan, was dark
but not black people, one of the branches
of what is generally called the Caucasian
race.
These people, where they have pre-
served measure of racial integrity, are
called Berbers From this name came the
general designation Barbary States. They
are a naturally peaceful people and ever
have been the prey of the conqueror. They
were conquered by the Carthaginians, the
Romans and the Vandals in turn, always
being despoiled and enslaved Yet through
it all the Berber has survived, though
never having anywhere shadow of ma
tionai existence.
In the year 747 the Mahometan Arabs
conquered the wretched country and the
Arab commander, Akba, arriving at the
west coast, rode his horse into the waves
and enthusiastically exclaimed ~ God of
Mahomet, Thou beholdest that but for
the elements which arrest me, would
have proceeded in search of unknown ma
tons, whom / would have forced to
adore Thy name"
The Arab conquerors had no difficulty
in imposing. their language and religion
upon the Mauretanians or Moors and a
fusion of the two races rapidly took
place. From these mixed people came
the Moors, who cut SO large figure in
the history of Spain. During the time
of their ascendancy in Spain these Moors
arrived at considerable state of. civil
ization and learning, but with their fall
a period of stagnation and decay set in
and the Moors are now degraded peo-
pie, living under government which is
villainous compound of tyranny and
anarchy. For centuries Morocco, like the
other Barbary States, maintained piracy
and the enslavement of Christians and
it was not until 1892 that this finally
ceased.
Under the wretched native government
the country amounts to little in a COM
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just Between You
and the Editor

meal served up to the gods. The rest
went to the devo,lt worshippers.
This liberality of the faithful in bestow-
ing bones upon the gods while eating the
meat themselves could not fail TO attract
the attention of the irreyerent, who have
had their existence in every age, and the
sacrifcial fires were named bone-fres
when out of hearing of the priests.
After the introduction of Christianity
sacrifices fell into disuse, but the features
which gave them popularity still survived.
The political barbecue, with its OK sacri-
feed. roasted and eaten, is lineal
descendant of the old saerifcal feast. At
certain seasons in ireland, Scotland and
a few places in England even to the
present day fires are lit in commemora-
ton of the ancient sacriicial fires lit with
great ceremony at those very seasons.
Now the only relics of the ancient Gus
toms are to be found only in the fire it
self at the same season as of old; in the
fact that everybody engaged in keeping
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up the custom understands that It IS es-
sentiai that there should be bone in the
fire, though they do not know why; and,
finally, in the name which they give, that
is, bonfire. II is the bone-fire, neither
more nor less, of the days Of ancient sac
rifce. AZ.
Victory over enemies, in those early
days, was always followed by sacrifice and
to this day the tendency to thus celebrate
remains. The sacri6cial gift NO, longer Is
cast into the flames, but still the .victors
gather round the fire as did their ances-
tors thousands of years ago; and the name
bonfire still remains. In New York and
perhaps other cities the custom has de-
generated into a nuisance, in which there
is no thought of celebration of victory.
The small boys simply think that election
night is the time to start bonfres. So,
without a mention of politics, these little
rascais work together, appropriating and
stealing boxes. barrels. etc, anil as soon
as the sun has set on election night thou
sands of fires are lighted, the asphalt pave
ments are damaged to the extent of thou
sands of dollars and the fire department is
kept busy loolfng after buildings endan-
gered or actually burning. Such is the
perversion of custom which ignorance
brings.
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inercial way, but there was once a time
when the Barbary States were the gran
airy of Europe Once the country was
well wooded, but the forests have been
wastefully destroyed, with resultant dam
age to. the soil. Whole tracts have been
turned to desert to remain such until
civilization undertakes irrigation and re-.
foresting in an extensive way. The popu-
lation is supposed to be not far from
five millions. They have no national
spirit whatever, being divided into in
Vulnerable tribes and clans who hate each
other and who are united. only in their
hatred of the infdel. 1t was this hatred
to which the rebel sultan-to-be was able
successfully TO appeal in his warfare
against the sultan who, at the moment of
writing, still clings to his tottcring throne.
There is sprinkling of negroes and
many Of the Moors have an infusion of
negro blood. I
The productions are those Of sub
tropical country, where everything is done
in an extremely primitive way. There is
no agricultural machinery and but few
wheeled vehicles are to be seen. For
eign machines are considered as forerun-
ners of opposition to the sacred religion
OF the prophet and work goes on in the
than hundreth part Of The soil is cul-
tivated and of this It is the custom to
allow each field to lie fallow two years
after one year of cultivation. I.
The Arabs are more or less nomadic
in their habits, but the Betbers are IN
clined to live in houses. They irtiahit,
for the most part, the billy country The
women are unveiled; and in other respects
they are lax in, following Mahometan
customs. When the time comes, as come
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HK1 HOSE readers of this magazine
who went to school in the sew

HK1 HOSE readers of this magazine
who went to school in the sew
enties may remember the classifi-
cation of peoples into the sweeping cate
eories Of civilized, half-civilized and saw
age. In the first category were placed all
people of European race, wherever found
In the second were placed all Asiatic and
North African people, while the negro
population of Africa, the American In
dams with few exceptions, and a ma
jority of the Malay race were roundly
set down as savage.
Profound indeed has been the change
which thirty years have wrought. The
old classification no longer can be consid-
cred. Barbarism is being swept from the
face of the earth. In another thirty years
every land will be civilized in the sense
that was understood thirty years ago. The
savage races, instead of undergoing the
slow process of GENERALIZATION, pass at
once to civilization. For time, of course,
there are grotesque lapses among the new
ly civilized. which is not surprising when
we consider how large a streak of primal
savagery we ourselves possess.
In America the Indian problem has
been settled finally and forever. The In
dams have accepted the inevitable, settled
down to the occupations of civilized life
and by ntermarriage with the more NUM-
erous race are fast losing their identity
as people. In Central and South Amer
lea and in Mexico the Indian blood pre-
dominates in the mixed race which is de-
stned to remain in permanent control of
those lands.
In Central Africa the naturally peace
full disposition of the negro race has en-
abled European civilization to penetrate
without any Of the sanguinary wars which
marked the conquest of America. The
railroad, the steamboat and the school are
now found where few years ago the
maps marked the territory Of the unex-
plored.
Japan, of course. is the classic example
Of nation abandoning an old, fanta as!a,,
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Election Bonfres
Uy HOUSANDS of years ago, when
barbarian man lived in a. more

Uy THOUSANDS of years ago, when
barbarian man lived in a. more
precarious way than now and
knew nothing of the teachings of science,
he peopled the earth, sea and sky with
demons who were able and willing to do
him harm. They would prevent the dis
covery OF game, they would bring destruc-,
tive storms and droughts, they would Keep
the fish from his net, they would bring
diseases upon himself or his cattle. What
could he do to prevent their anger and
secure their good will? His first thought,
naturally, was that of bribery He would
give the god something to be let alone,
something more if the god would show
actual favor. How he hit upon the de-
vice Of burning his offerings to tile gods,
who never deigned to appear in person to
ACCEPT his gifts, cannot certainly be said,
but there are a number of possible ex-
plantations. The most probable is that the
utter destruction of the article offered inn
piled giving it spiritual quality like the
soul of the dead. Numerous articles of
food or use were burned or buried with
the distinguished dead for use on their
long journey, showing belief that the
most material things had spiritual rep
lea. In other cases there was a belief
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"There wass a receifer by a street rail.
way company yet, who has put up mo-
tice by the cars that man who will re.
ceif ride and not pay a nickel wass .
dod-gasted. tief, or words to that effect
already. But he say that II wass all
right for a .receifer to get two nickcls
for one ride because he need the: money.
That -wass not tiefing,5 he say; ii was re-
citing What wass the nse Of being
tlef when you can be a receifer already
Get?
" haf hear that the reformers wass 90
ing to put all the trusts BY the hands Of
reccifers . little. OF course, the reforms
ers wass going, to name the. receifers.
Achi The receifing that will be done 1
Und when the receifers hat received ali
the assets by the; trusts, they win: be
ready to reccif all the moneys Of eiery-
body else. ISIS it or iss il notsssa s As.