Evening journal., 1908-12-03
SEEKING TO LEARN
ABOUT POWDER
COMPANY PROFITS
contInued rrom TIrst rage.l


employees of the dupont Company gave
evidence Of minor importance before the
examination Of Mr.. dupont began.
To Tell of Profits.
Following Mr.. duPonts examination
the government called Edward NJ
Meade, treasurer of the Latin and
Rand co.
Mr.. Scarlet asked him what books
he had produced and the witness re-
piled that he had the ledgers Of his
company. The stock transfer books
OF the concern. he said, he believed
We're in New York
lie was asked if he could state what
the net earnings OF the company We're
from 1884 to the present date. He said
he could not
He was asked If he could state what
the profits were in 1902.
Mr.. Grahah objected to the question
on the ground that it was an irrela-
tive and impertinant inquiry into the
private business affairs of the com
pany which would expose the FIRMS
affairs to competitors and others, and
would not in any maner establish the
claim Of the government that there is
an illegal combination.
In answer to Mr.. Scarlet. the wit
ness said he thought he could give the
figures desired, in a weeks time. ano
Mr.. Scarlet instructed him to be ready
in that time.
Adjournment was taken until
O'Clock this afternoon.
Yesterday Afternoons Session.
When yesterdays hearing i'm tn,
powder suit was resumed at 2.3C
o'clock in the afternoon. before Specia
Master Mahaffy. Henry G. Nicoll. ot
New York. a former employe of tn,
+. l. dupont de Nemours Company
now engaged in the powder busines.
himself, was called as a witness b,
counsel for the government. Jane,
Scarlet conducted the examination.
Mr. Nicoll testified that he was il
the employ of the dupont Company il
1908 and 1904 as a salesman and dem
onstrator. lie was shown some paper
containing the names of persons n
did business with for the duPonts il
those years. which he Identified. on
of the papers contained a list Of tn,
customers Of the Rockdalo Dynamite
/ Company, Of Maryland. an indepen
I
was given him with instructions to &c
the business.
When asked how he was to get TN
business. the witness replied: "B,
substituting grades or cutting prices
anything to get it,"
What method did YOU mostly adop
to get trade" asked Mr.. Scarlet
Generally by cutting prices" re
/ piled the witness.
The witness said his instruction
were not TO cut prices unless he hal
to. and then go the limit.
lie said he entertained prosperity
customers by buying drinks and cigar
and as he put it. by once in a Will
passing out a dollar or two.
Asked how his work in getting trad
/ for the duPonts hurt the Rockdale con
Germs business. the witness replied
Il imagine it was very detrimenta
but just how much I'm dollars and cents
+ 1 couldn't say"
The witness also testified to gettin
trade away from the Enterprise Pow
der Company, another independen
concern.
William IT. Britton, of New Yorl
Of counsel for the defense in his eros
examination Of Mr. Nicoll, brought ou
by the witness, that some of the Gus
toners he got, he did so without cut
ting prices. and the witness admitte
that some Of the firms he sold powde
to- were originally customers Of tn
Rockdale concern which took then
laway from the dupont Company
L The witness also said that I'm a mum
ber of cases he sold to customers q
| the RocSdale firm at higher price
than they had been buying.
Mr. Brtton asked the witness ho'
the papers from which he was give
his evidence came to be In the pos
session of the government and he re
piled that he gave them to a ma
named Metzger who sent them
Washington. He explained that Metz
ger came TO his Office and asked hil
to assist I'm the fight of the Indeper
dent companies against the trust
In redirect examination Mr.. Nico
in reply 10 a question asked OF hil
by Mr. Scarlet. said that he had mad
demonstrations with one grade OF dS
lnamite and a lower grade was shippe
to the purchaser. but lie later said tina
in one case he had been Informed ths
le mistake had been made in the shiT
lment.
George II. Kerr. head Of the SALE
record department of the dupont Con
lpany was examined, but he only gay
statistical evidence He said the dt
Points employed eighty statesmen an