New-York tribune., 1908-03-13
LILLEY'S STORY HEARD
HORSON APPROACHED. :
.iuesed Influence Brought to Bear
bu Electric Boat Com pGny.

Washington March I2-The I.ney submarine
l.oar inquiry was begun in earnest to-day by the
sreciai House committee Representative Liliey
Is heard length He began his testimony by
-eading a long typezvritten statement, heretofore
published in which he outlined his charges In De
.zu Questions were put 10 him 10y Representative
olras-ed who designated 10y Chairman Bouieli
foT that purpose.
Al the afternoon session Representative Rich
r-cud Pearson TEohson testified that he had been
srp-oached by a man representing the Electric
7oat Company. who told him that If he would
support the claims Of that company before Con
--ess the company could bring influence 10 bear
,.r Speaker Cannon n have him appointed on the
committee on Naval Affairs Mr. Llley intro
s7vcea Frank T Brown. az Norwich. and State
senator Stiles Judson a. bridgeport Conn, as his
counsel Martin " Tittle;on and John u Lind
ssv. Of New York. represented the Electric Boat
Comrauy-
IN reply 7e one Of Nr OIn1stei's questions. Mr..
I5ley said the Electric Boat Company had no
pz-at and assets He declared that the com
Ta1y did build boats its only business being
obtsin contracts for boats and TO subet them.
M-. IdTey gave the names OF the Connecticut
manufacturers and the attorney who had asked
him. according his statement to vote for an
apn-cpristicn for submarine boat construction The
manufacturers he said. were Franklin H Taylor,
- Waterbury, and Charles Ferry, Of the Bridgeport
F3-ass Conlpen1-7 the attorney John T kelloSG,
of Y Waterbury.
Nj Iilley said THAI Mr.. kellogg, the attorney
for the Electric Boat Company made an appoint
nlent for NJ Ferry TO meet him, but Mr Kellogg
vas not present at the interview. AT q previous
,isit Nr LI-v said, Mr. Kellogg handed him q
written form Of the provision that would be offered
IN The naval committee while preparing the naval
niil tie last session. il Was offered he SAID
h1,t he o6 remember by whom. il was MI
LAlIey's impression that he supported that Tesou-
ton. II for open legislation, he said leaving
the letting Of contracts with the department The
one submitted this year. he said shut out any
O orTlIDe
~. Lilley said that the name Of the Representa-
IKE who. he alleged had been approached by a
member OF the Electric Beat Company with prop
osition get him the Naval Affairs Committee
Z he would favor submarine legislation Rich
lHond P Hobson. He said Mr- Hobson was willing
10 testify and give the name Of the man who ap-
T-ca ched HIM
NAVAL COMMITTEE PROCEEDINGS
III. Lllley said he had been approached by
-epresenJatiye OF the Lake Boat Company. VINO
asked him If be would stand for open legislation,
meaning that If any appropriation was made It
should be left that al the submarine people
could have a fair chance 10 obtain the business
NJ Lirey said he would stand for open legislation.
Later ne was asked BY an agent Of the Lake com
-znr Z he would offer q substitute resolution
,esyiug the appropriation 10 De expended IT. the
-e--lla- way by the Secretary OF the Navy.
Il said continued Nj. Liley. 4 did not care
% 7rer the substitute resolution do not think
submarines are Of much account. but If We are
gong 10 have them certainly viii vote fo- open
legislztlon
Was The motion offered in committee" asked
~ Olrsted.
.-No. he took il 10 The wrong man. replied NJ.
LIll=.-
---te man vas predetermined 70 vote for the
E1e-t-.c Boat Company suggested Mr.. olnsted.
N- Ltliey said he thought the name Of the Lake
company agent who hin was Seff-
Concerning the proceedings in committee Nj.
L.IIev said Mr- PaGgerJ tried TO have an amend
met attached 20 the provision offered ny Mr
Iou5enslage-. removing the part that prevented
competition NJ. Liliey said re voted for that
s-1erc-ne-t. bu- i do carry M LoUGen-
sLsgere amendment vas adopted he said When
NJ LoudensIager finished reading his amendment
81. Hobson said:
That means Holland doesn't ~
According 70 NJ Liley. Mr.. Loudenslager re
r-ec- Yes. effect"
The Ioudenslager amendment" M Lilley said,
vas trrevr1tten and looked very familiar 70 me,
-e--e---se-i-E back z wear Two when I had one
PASSED 10 10 meas L u had been drawn outside
- enc Naval COMMITTEE
" ul1nsted-By whom cid II look IS i. II had
beer 1-tJen-
NJ r.71ev-Ir had al the ea-ularks OF orc that
A. Eslogz handed ne : wear before Marion
Fu-rs-. : ta5na. drew IT, He is an attorney ToT
t-a Electric Boat Company
= farz discussion arose over that portion Of NJ
rs1e-- zrs-er1lenr relating 70 newspaper CORE
s-r--e-rz and the mart they have taken N ere
st;-e -ra- n ILey termed sentiment for SUD
r-z----e 7s-ricrIsrIy OF the Pacific Coast.
.-v-hr-~ h. said. y have direct testimony -
c-e- o- that subject. ! am told that fheE che
Electric po-r Company, have men who attend
-rre-s--s Gf boards Of trade chambers nj com
.a=-ce. =-- a-6 VINO get I'D ~ thess meetings ana
max addresses or the Unprena-ei1ess q the "a
rife Coast z-5 ttle fear shat the japanese 1ll
Ha -r-- ar the r-Nr boat and thus get resolutions
-ssz-5 --=--7sc-Ile ther Congressman 70 vote for
's-E- number = submarines aS r1s best means O
protecting them from invasion think II ts repre-
nr1z--.- conduct on the part % The company n
-.-- -----z-S and newspaper men n q about AMI
create ~-~ Srzres and work their boards of trade
-r1 chambers a. commerce 70 bring pressure -
49, -1-uhers ~ -h- House 70 vote tha govern
'.=H-S money fo- their b0atE-
r. L-fov sasd h could only name she news
Pay r--- - this time who had worked for the
De--~'. Peat Company. and ha gave the names q
--r aac he said had admitted having worked for
tne cu---a--
e t-=s--5 -rar - -he ror7rrrree -7fi]d call the
71cnss=-s whose rsrn-s n hsd given - would as
0e--sr hat there we're many such men employed
-.a- ---s+ deal of money hat ban spent that
~ zs- Is s-- n - r. sad
-,-FL-ENCE~ OK cOaitIITTEENEN-
II L.lev was asked BY NJ dInlsted 70 give the
nsres Of attorneys employed by The Electric Boat
Company n districts o. members of the <aTa At
5sl-s Committee
John Kellogg" hA replied. of Waterbury. IN