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The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
Elks Attention.

There is rousing good me ting OF
the Elks scheduled for this evening
and all members who are not there
will regret it in the future. Th.re is
much business to be looked afte", ap-
plications TO he balloted upon. Hon.
j. b. Champion is to be initiated. Los
Angeles club No. l will be organized.
Gen Jak Wright travelling passenger
agent will be present and discuss the
rates and accommodations from here
10 Los Angeles that will he given 10
those who expect TO attend tn natio
nal convention there next year.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
ON MURDER CHARGE
D, c. W. Harry Went to Sulphur To
day to Stand Trial.

DR. G. IT, Harry and his attorney
II. A. Howard left here today for Sui
phur where Dr Harry will go ON trial
tomorrow u the district court on q
murder charge During the festivities
at the Crushcr last Christmas a labor
cr while intoxicated fell and received
severe injuries In his head. Dr. Harry
was called in to administer 10 the
injured man. 1t IS alleged that Or.
Harry was intoxicated from the use OF
whiskcy or some drug and was rcspon-
siblc for the death Of the individual.
lie is alleged to have removed the
skin from the head surrounding the
wound and struck the skull with a
chisol 20 determine VIII h.ther the skull
was cracked or no.. The authorities
say that the case against the doctor
rs hard one but whether murder will
be established or not Is not known
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
SEQUEL 70 DUEL.
Orr Citizen Fired Upon From Ambush
Sunday NIGHT.

Sunday Night.
j. a. Mathes and q. \. Tunbow who
were here last evening from Orr, SAY
that five shots were fired at them by
unknown parties Sunday night about
S O'Clock at point about half way
between Rcck and Orr.
Mathes and Turubow en- route to
Ardmore at the time. They say that
owing to the darkness and the fact
that the shots frightened their team,
causing their horses To run, they were
unable TO distinguish the would-be as
sassins, but they think that they We're
on horseback.
Mathes Is one of the men who fgur-
ed in the shooting scrape near Reck
some ten days ago, In which John Pos
ter John Jackson and man nam Il
McKonnon received bullet wounds.
The fact that these men are unable
TO have their homes, owing TO their
| injuries will likely result in a post
pouemcnt Of the preliminary trial,
which Is set for next Saturday.
McKennon, who il is said was no:
a party TO the trouble, is suffering
very much from his wound, Quiet
having shattered one Of his andes.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Every day you can hear the re-
marks. Have you heard Bryans
speeches on the Phonograph at Lukes
Music store? Why, It sounds just as
plain and natural as it would II Mr..
Bryan was right there in the room
talking 10 YOU? We are glad to have
you come in and hear Edison Phono-
graphs and Victor Talking Machines.
hut il is not always convenient to
come to our store just when you are
IN The mood for good music-So why
not take one home where the whole
family can enjoy it with YOU. Only
one Dollar a week pays for an Ed.
son or Victor a.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
To the Public.

| beg 10 announce VIII be open
FOR business tomorrow, Aug. Sth, n
the building first door east OF Hyden
& Hodges and will be prepared TO
furnish the public with the very
best Of meats in the market lin''
have returned TO Ardmore 10 stay
and shall be glad to have all my o. :
friends and customers come and Sec
mo. CHAS. KERNER.
~ mo.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
LAND TAXES RAISED
MADlLL TOWNSHIP ASSE ESMENTs
RAISED THREE HUNDRED
PER CENT.

From signed statement from the
board of county commissioner of Mar
shall county published in the newspa-
pers i'm Madill II Is observed how the
taxes has been raised in that county
ship assessors. The board sitting as
an equalization board raised all lands
lying in the Madill township 800 per
cent. The national banks in the Ma.
din township were raised ~ per cent
and the banks in the Willis township
were raised 36 per cent.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
PERSONALS

Gmcr Joic, of oklahoma city vino
has been the guest OF u.H uncle, W.
r. iumcr the pas, ..., weeks.
returned home toda,
5. J. Watsom of pu.m. is BOO town
today
Mrs. Z. =. Bush OF Wanaau,ka is
in the city today.
W. =. elmer and tluehtcr Miss
Marie. are in Sulphuu attending the
reunion. Miss Gilmcr i- one of the
maids OF honor
\. G. Enochs OF Nichshur- Miss,
is hb the city prospectus with %
view Of investing in new state lands
Harry X. Allen and Smh G. Mat
SON are in sulphur attending the rc
union.
W. r. Richardson OF Galveston hJ-
returned home after @ pleasant visit
with friends in the city
Misses Jewell WhitJme.w AND Nmc
liza Hunter returned Monday u.m
"a plcasam. visit to Gainesville
Sol and Manuel loNuarm 1.,
away ON summers vacation and a.r
visiting northern points uI viii Wis
90 the lakes before thot. return
Mr. and Mrs. II r Cummings o'
Clobuuc Texas, are pleasant guests
of Mr.. and Mrs j. o. Brady
Mr. and Mrs. Barn. rWgu ar, 300
Galveston ON hrlcr Ns.I
". C.. Rogers Of sulphur Springs
Texas. is in the city u brief visit
with his sister, Mrs D. d. Tycr Vi.
Rogers is with the First National
bank in his city.
Miss Rosa Bales Of Oklahoma City
was here last evening om route O,
Hugo. Okla. to visit with her cousin
Miss Hunt.
Bruce hin and son Harry. made ,
business trip to Springer today
b. w. Sorrolls of Wauanucha is .
business visitor in the city today.
Mrs Emet Carpeutor of Mmgum b.
| the guest at the home of her sis
/ ter Mrs. Arthur Carpenter
Mrs. W. r. Bell has returned From
visit TO her daughtcr in Texas.
]. B. Kelsey is I'm the city iron
. Chickasha, transactiug business.
Miss Nell Brady of Gainesville 81
visiting at the home of Mr. am
Mrs. J. B Brady.
Mr.. and Mrs. Clyde Farthiug ly
daughter Louise, are spending On
week in Tlshomingo with relatives.
DR.. r. :. willard OF Brock, pres
dent of the Carter County Medic.
association, is in the city.
Dr.. \. L. Ballard of Lone Grow
secretary of the Carter County Me,
ical association, is in the city a
tending the association.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

D. r. Booker and ]. F. McClatChcy
who have charge OF the county road
gang, are in the city. They brought
their prisoners here and placed them
in Jail awaiting orders from the
commissioners. They have been work
ing the roads west OF town and will
probably be moved to the east side
OF the county.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
NrILD Your HOME

whore you can have all the conyc
nieucos. gas. city. water, telephone
electric light, sewer connection, paw
ed streets and cement sidewalks "a
the business center Highland Park
The placa five blocks west Of the Car
negie library.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

=. piCk.UPs AERE AND THERE. y
= = > = <& = = = 4 . y = =

G.. X. Langham, newspaper man
OF this city, has been advised by
Governor Haskell. treasurer of ,hc
Democratic national campa gn com.
mirtcc. TO be in Guthrie Wednesday.
Mr.. Langham will be there and Viii
accept work with the comnitto" dur
ing the campaign MIR laneham was
On the Tribune several months and
h this capacity Governor Haskell
learned Of the skill Of Iangham
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Sealed bids will be received Al my
Office in Noble building until 4 o'clock
"Wednesday Aug. 18th, leOS, for the
erection and completion OF two
story l4.room frame rooming house.
Plans and specifications can be seen
at my office. J. p. WHITE,
tuo \rchitCCt
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Uncle Jim Avcrson was in town
t.dIy and in meeting mp with some
ct the Old citizens became rcminis-
cent u was about seventeen years
ago that the Po and iluigins gang
gave the people considerable trouble
about dark one evening Poe and
Bin Davis and a boy seventeen years
old came ny uucle Jim's store near
Wood'osd and purchased some tobac
co Cncle Jim knew The men and
as soon as they had gone he rode
into Ardmorc and informed the Off
GERS as to their location. The officers
left Ardmoro located their game in
a little box house and crouchcd near
by TO wait for daylight. Bin Davis
one Of the outlaws. suspected that
officers were near As soon as II was
light enough for him to see his gun
sights he jumped out of the door
and invited the officers 20 make thciI
light. Davis saw ParsOn Perkins and
Uncle Jim close by and immediate
ly fusiladc of bullets filled the
air Parson Perkins and Bill Davis
both fell mortally wounded. On the
opposite side of the house Dave Book
or and George VI. Stewart We're 10
Gated. to see that no escapes wcr'
made from that side. All was still fo
, a few minutes and the boy emerged
/ from the house. He was capture
and from him It waI learned tina
/ Bill Poe and his wife We're ir IN
house In the meantime Allen Speak,
the present county commissioner an
James Chancellor, an Ardmore Office
arrived on the scene. Some bullet
were sent crashing through the wall
OF the little house They came a II
tie closer and little closer. FINAL
one shot barely missed the woma
and tore up the sewing machine
They could stand the fire no longe
and surrendered The two woundc
men were brought 20 town and bot
Idicd
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
Woodmen Circle,

The Woodmcn Circle VIII meet
Wednesday afternoon at ! o'clock.
General business.
MRS. CLEMMIE MARTIN.
Clerk
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
Attention, Asthma sufferers.

Foley's Honey and Tar will give I'm
mediate relief 10 asthma sufferers ana
has cured many cases that had refused
TO yield 20 other treatment. rOley's
Honey and Tar is the best remedy
for coughs, colds and an throat and
lung trouble. Contains no harmful
druls. Sold by all druggists DIV
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
Removal Of Restrictions Blanks

The Ardmoreite has in stock the
new forms OF petitions for the Re.
moval OF Restrictions Mail orders
promptly iillel.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

The members OF the Woodmen Cir
Gle will serve ice cream and cake
Saturday for fifteen cents The pub
lie is invited. ll'f
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Assistant County Clerk Duke will
probably go 10 Guthrie Monday TO
accompany the report from the Carter
county commissioners.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Bill Murray is said to bc silent
now in four languages, Chichasaw.
Choctaw. English and profano. Whcth-
er Murray is shorn OF his strength or
not will develop at the state meeting
Of the farmers 10 be held al shaw
nee on the 18TH of this month.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Deese is preparing for a three days
picnic the latter part of this month
County treasurer Major Rumph has
accepted an invitation TO speak there
on the morning OF the Goth.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Kenneuys Laxative Cough syrup IL
especially recommended for children
II tastes nearly as good as maple
sugar. Sold by w, b. Frame.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
TAX REPORT DELAYED
COUNTY CoMMlSS SSloNERS WILL
SIT AS EQUALIZATION BOARD
THIS WEEK.

The board of county commissioner
adjourned last evening and all went
to Sulphur to visit the reunion OF Con
federate Veterans. 4 few claims we
allowed and ordered paid ana the
board cou.d dc nothing iurhcr until
one of the township officers maNcs
his report ON ass ssmcnt OF taxes.
The board will reconyene tomorrow
and will remain in session until the
proper Information is before them
for the making of the county taN
levy. The report of the board must
be in the hands o., the state board al
Guthrie noXl Monday.
Just what the state board Will do
with the rendition OF lands Tor taxes
is a mootcd question. Inc land are
being valued very high ia Old Okla
homa and it is expected the taxes here
will be higu. Lands IN this pan. oi
lAe state are not selling for the prices
that Oklahoma lands are selling for
The land companies operating her"
will not pay more than $40 per acre.
They state that school houses her. are
not built, roads are no. established.
and lands are not improved and are
not worth as much in the markets as
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
Attention Elks

Regular meeting Ardmorc lndg" B.
T.. O. Elk- Tuesday night Esqu''
Nichols win entertain YOU, Conyoria
ton.
W. c. DEAN, r.. Z
j. r. ADAMS, Secy
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Messrs, McCiatchey &Booker who
have charge Of the force OF conyicto
on the coun.y roads nave been assign
ed to the road south OF town leading
10 Overbruok
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

List your city property, for rent or
for sale, with Lee Sims, Sims build
ing. Ardmore. Phone 199. 2ltf
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
ALBATROSS

That's the name OF the best hou'
sold in Ardmore.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

John Johnson, a negro charged
with wife beating, entered a plea Of
guilty today in Judge Wintrey's court
and was fined $50 lie could not
pay the fine and will accept a lu-
crative position under Messrs. Me
Clatchey and Booker ON the county
foad gang.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

An old time negro protractcd meet
ing is now in progress at the can
ming factory east of town. Preachers
of different denominations are preach
ing and the lay members are doing a
good stunt at shouting and singing.
4 number OF white people attend at
each evening service
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

DR. J. VI. Stevens, who has recently
moved to ArdmCre TO engage in the
practice of medicine has secured Of
flee rooms over Hamiiton's shoe
store.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

County Judge |, Il. Mason stated to-
day that 4 vast number of acres of
land were changing hand in this coun.
ty as a result OF the removal OF re-
strictions. Sales of considerable mag.
nitude are going on quietly and the
exchanges are adding TO the work OF
the county court.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
LUKE'S MUSIC
STORE
THE MARKET
REPORTS
AS FURNISHED TO THE ARD
MoRElTg BY LOCAL PRODUCE
BUYERS EACH DAY.

(By VIM. Newman
Hens 5i2c per gross
Fryers from $500 TO s. - per 10,
en-.
Eggs l6c per dozen
Gren hides to &c.
Dry hides from Sc to l0c
Butter l5c to 25c
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
CBy Keel 4 SOM

'bN Nttl q SUM
Corn 6jc.
Wheat sl00
Oats soc
Chops $50.
Bran sl1O.
Hay $3.50 per ton.
Cotton seed meal $3.50 per l0Olbs.
Barley Sl.O0 per bushel.
Rye Sl.25 per bushol.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

Since Judge Winfrcy was nductcd
into Office after statehood he has
filed in his court more than 500
cases.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

The members OF the Carter county
democratic central committee will
meet in Ardmore at 10 O'Clock next
Saturday for the purpose Of organ'z-
ing the committee. A chairman and
secretary will be elected and the chair
With the approval Of the committee
will make appointments to fiji vacan-
cles in all precincts where elections
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

American Hog Fencing at Bivens
Corhn and Frensleys.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11
ALBATROSS

That's the name OF the best -four
sold In Ardmore.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1908-08-11

CBy Cold Storage)
Hogs jc 10 5ia gross.
CoWs &c TO 2iac gross.
Calves 3igc gross.
The Columbus journal., 1908-06-17

lives in Brooklyn
Papa-He is q New Yorker.
Child-Weil, if a Portuguese lived in
the Bronx?
Papa-He would be New Yorker.
OF course. my child. in a large sense,
all inhabitants of the state OF New
York are New Workers, but. generally
speaking, by the term New Yorker Is
meant one who lives in the city OF
New York, and that is why a China
man out on Staten island is New
Yorker
Child-Papa, does a man have to be
foreigner in order to live IN New
York?
Papa-What q question, my child.
OF course not. There are many living
in New York whose native language
IS English.
Child-Oh. they were born there!
Papa-Not necessarily. Some were
born in Great Britain and Ireland and
some in the British possessions. but
they all speak English and they live
in New York and are New Workers.
Child-Then. If understand you
Alright. my dear father, a man who
lives in New York and who speaks
English must have been born either
in Great Britain, Ireland. or some
where in the British possessions
Papa-Nct at all. There are native
Americans who speak English and who
live in New York.
Child-And where are they from?
Papa-Some were born in New Eng
land, some on the Pacific coast, some
in the middle west and some in the
south.
The Columbus journal., 1908-06-17
STRONG ON THE PROPERTIES.
How Could She Be Expected 70 a.
dress Perfect Stranger

A traveller In the mountains Of Ten
uessee had been slowed away in the
best bed the cottage afforded. Late
in the night he was awakened by the
voice Of the paterfamilies addressed
to the daughter. who was entertaining
company by the fireside.
Mandy" growled the old man. rs
that young man there yit!"
Yep. pap"
'Is he got his arm around yer
waist?"
Yep. pap"
"You-all tell him to take't away.
Jaw. ye tell him yerself. pap" re-
piled the girl, in q dull. lifeless voice.
He air q plumb stranger to me-
Success Magazine.
The Columbus journal., 1908-06-17

considered to be the most patriotic
New Workers because their New
Yorkism is 50 new; but, my child, in
this city of which We are speaking.
this city CT nearly 100000 inhabi-
tants, there is little class, without
much influence, to be sure, but still
self-respeeting and respected by 9TH
ers. a mere handful, it is true, but a
very intelligent handful.
Child-And who are they, papa?
Papa-They. my child. are the ma
tive American New Workers. whose
parents and grandparents and great
grandparents, to the third and fourth
generation, were born and brought up
in New York.
Child-And who always spoke Eng
lish?
Papa-Well, no. They spoke Dutch
originally. but they have spoken Eng
lish longer than the majority of the
rest. Those are the real New York
ers.
Child never heard of them.
Where do they keep themselves?
Papa-One of them is the president
of the United States.
Child-Oh. yes, of course. So he IL
a Simon-pure New Yorker:
Papa-Well. no; come to think Of 1t.
he isn't. because believe his mother
was a southerner.
Child-Well. do the Simon-pure New
Workers sign their names as from
New York?
Papa-Yes. my boy. they do. and
they would like to be able to sign in
special colored ink to make it more
emphatic.
Child-Well, papa. suppose that
If they could have kept out the for
eigners and the English-speaking
aliens apd the Yankees and the
southerners and the westerners, and
just left New York for the real born
and bred New Workers, New, York
would be even greater than 1t is?
Para-No. no. my boy. No city ever
gets to the top Of the pile unaided. It
is because of all these people Who
have come in to show New York how
to misgovern itself that she is the
greatest city on the western hemfs-
phere and is destined to be the great
est city that the sun ever shone upon.
Child-And what will become of the
real New York New Workers?
Papa-Ttey will disappear after
while
Child-Why. papa?
Papa-Because it is getting to be
the fashion to be born in the country.
Child-Oh,
Copyright, by James Pott 4 COD
The Columbus journal., 1908-06-17
HOT ONIONS ron PNEUMONIA.
Dread Disease Robbed Of lts 1errors
BY Simple Remedy.

Owing to the prevalence Of pneu-
monia and the great mortality which
attends its ravages during the winter
and spring, several boards Of health
In northern New Jersey have been TAX
ing measures to protect the citizens Of
their towns from the disease. The
health board Of Washington. N. J.. has
published q remedy which IL said to
be q sure cure for pneumonia, and
other health boards are looking into
the matter with a view Of having the
same thing published for the good Of
the general public. This is the pub
LEGATION as 1t has appeared In the pa
pers Of Washington:
Take six or ten onions, according
to size, and chop fine. put in a large
spider over q hot fire. then add the
same quantity Of rye meal and vine
gar enough to form q thick paste. In
the meanwhile stir 1t thoroughly, let
ting It simmer five or ten. minutes.
Then put in q cotton bag large enough
to cover the lungs and apply to chest
as hot as patient can bear. In about
ten minutes apply another, and thus
continue by relocating the poultices,
and In q few hours the patient will be
out of danger. This simple remedy
has never failed to cure this too-often
fatal malady. Usually three or four
applications will be sufficient, but con-
tinue always until the Precipitation
starts freely from the chest. This rem
edy was formulated many years ago
by one Of the best physicians New
England has ever known, who never
lost a patient by the disease. and won
his renown by simple remedies"
The Columbus journal., 1908-06-17

"A love for gamblin' was born about
tho time that human nature first
opened its eyes. A disposition to
steal semethin' was born just a few
moments before. but a man may gam
BILE and not be q thie:. There Is
such a thing as an honest gambler
that is. gambler who is willing to
give q man a fair chance-to lose his
money. The gambler wants your
money, and il amt much trouble for
him to accommodate his conscience as
to the way he gets it. II he is sharp
er than you are he compliments him.
self with the fact that he understands
his business, and every man that has
a trade likes to know its details better
than the other man does"
Thus spoke old Limuel to a few
friends who were gathered about the
ifireside in the Jucklin home. The
wind was bowling and the snow. like
shredded sheets, was flying past thu
windows.
But you don't believe that all
gamblers are thieves?" remarked old
man Brizintine.
Il said l didn't But there amt
nothin' that will strain a mans hon
esty more than gamblin' will"
That's been preached on many
time" Brizintine spoke up. But /
never gambled in my life, and
And you don't know just how far
You are honest" Linn broke in.
4 don't know that l understand
you"
Didn't think you did," replied Juck-
lin. But | can explain. Tho man
that CANDLES has more temptations to
steal than any other man. When he
has lost everything a strong resent
ment arises against life. 1t Is almost
impossible for him to believe that he
has been fairly beaten, and IL he is
broad enough to acknowledge this he
then questions Fate for her one
right she's got to discriminate so
against him II has been said that all
men are natural gamblers. and It may
be true, for the most Of us have had
to fight against ii.
Unfortunately for man. work was
put on him as Q curse. The fact is.
1t ennobles him, but he accepted it as
a curse. And when his brother has
: committed a crime. not grave enough
to hang him. he says: 4 will sen
tence you to work In the olden times
q man that worked want respected as
much as the highwayman. They
hanged the robber. 1t is true. but they
respected him more than they did
the man that handled the hoe. And
the gambler is a sort of social high
wayman 1 don't say he is bad fel-
: Ter. In many instances he per
suades himself TO believe that
his profession is right. He puts up
his money, takes chances. and If he
wins he has come by the money as
honestly as If he had dug in the
ground for it-he thinks. And as long
as ne wins he may be honest. But