The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-12-10
War Department Favors
Outlet Into New
York Bay.
MUST GUARANTEE TO
SCREEN SEWAGE FIRST
Witnesses CrOss=Exanlined by
Head of Army Harbor
Engineers.

NEW YORK, Dec. IO.--A big victory
for New Jersey over New York In the
fight of the Passnic valley District
Sewerage Commission to obfniu nm
outlet for the proposed trunk sewer I'm
New York hay, near Robbins reef, yvas
indicatd late today at the hearing be-
fore the New York Hnrbor Line hoard
of Army Engineers.
Colonel Knight. of the harbor board,
asked if it would be satisfactory to
the Sewerage Commission IL the permit
were granted, with the understanding
that the War Department should stipu-
late that the permission should not be
effective until the screens and sedi-
mentation specifications had been def
nitely prepared by the commission en-
glneers and accepted by the govern
ment.
conference of the commission was
called later, and the harbor board will
be told that the permit on those terms
will be satisfactory.
Morris B. Dean, assistant New York
attorney general. called Dr. Daniel b.
Jackson. city bacteriologist, as his first
witness today.
DR.. Jackson was cross-examined ut
great length by Colonel Lockwood. to
which the question has been referred
by the War Department
DR.. Jackson testified that there was
an under run up the North and East
rivers.
CAPTAIN Charles B. Parsons. former
DrpSfdpnt Of tha arif
sumed the narrative which he partially
told yesterday when DR.. jackson had
been dismissed
There Is serious side to this mat
ter which / failed to touch yesterday
said Captain Parsons, that is the ef-
aect of sewage on the metal of wooden
vessels. l have known vessels newly
metal coated to go into Newtown Creek
loading with oil and have the metal
eaten and perforated in many places by
the chemicals in the sewage.
"As I said yesterday the sewage eats
the paint off of all vessels In 1905
$500, 900 was spent in dredging out slips
and Wharves where sewage had de-
posted"
Speaking of the movement of matter
with the tide. Captain Parsons said he
had seen a dead horse float up aitfl
locate on the shore of Staten Island
He told of practical experience as a
navigator with a steamer whose super
structure had in two days turned from
white to black in Newtown Creek
"The vessel that is SO unfortunate
as to sink in these waters" he went OH,
lis Immediately covered with sedi-
ment So serious is this that the cost
of cleaning a ship is as great OF greater
than the cost of raising her,
Professor Landreth, of Union College
made a long technical speech reviewing
the work of the New York Bay Polu-
tion Commission.
Suggest Disposal Works.
Professor Landreth said that dis
pcsal or reduction plant would be less
expensive than the great trunk sewer
outlet under the bay. Asked by Colonel
Lockwood If he wished to gainsay yes
terday's statements of Rudolph Herring
and Edlow Harrison. he replied that
they were employed by the commits
sion and testified accordingly. In sum
ming up for the opposition Dean said
that in an address at Montclair Mr..
Herring not long ago had said that 1t
would cost less to build filter disposal
works than the bay outlet
Former Judge Child contradicted
that. but Mr.. Herring admitted such
statement, qualifying it by saying he
had meant first cost. Maintenance of
disposal work would make the ultimate
cost far greater than that of the COM
missions proposed sewer.
Former Mayor Julius A. Lebkuecher
of Newark, chairman of the Sewerags
Commission. spoke in rebuttal MAIN
tanning that there would he no often
sive pollution of the waters of the bay
by the outlet.
Mr. Herring. when called in rebuttal
for the commission, spoke in sharp re-
sentiment Of the statement of Landreth
that he had testified for the commits
sion by which he was hired.
MY principles of life are not different
from those of gentlemen" he said, "and
/ must state that do not sell my ideas,
nor am I purchased by my clients 20
give pleasing opinions