The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1908-01-13

A-They went past me IN single hle;
Thsw was in the rear of the party.
His Gaze Followed Thsw.
Q-You still kept your gaze upon
A-Yes until they reached their seats
and then stopped locking at them.
II Q-The~ sat dowhf
A-They sat down. THAT IL three of
them sat down. rhaw did not.
Q-Mere their seats on the aisle?
Q-Did Mr.. rhaw so In and sit
Ale did not. Tie stood there an
instant and then went back toward
the rear.
Didn't see any one else at that
moment?
A--No.
Q-Where dia Thaw gog
A-To the Madison-aye aisle.
through that aisleY
AL did. never took my eyes off
Q-wcre you in position to be able
to actually see what he was doingf
o ,s,D a, you keep your gaze upon him
Al did. He interested me more
than the play. He turned and met my
gaze and seemed to recognize me.
[ Odd be shake hands with you?
Odd ho wear hatY
Ayes, a straw hat.
Q-Did no wear an overcoat2
Ale did not. My best recollection
is that he had an overcoat over his
arm.
Q-You told him to take the other
seat at your table when he approached
you?
Al did.
Wrote Down Conversation.
Q--After you left the garden did you
reduce the conversation You had with
Thaw at the garden TO writing?
Al did Immediately after Il reached
o-Did you say It to any oneg
A-To my lawyers.
repeat II from memory?
A--Yes
Odd you repeat 1t from memory
Al did.
-es--And- sre- YOU repeating from
memory nowe
Q-How long did Mr.. Thaw sit by
you at the tablet
About 80 minutes.
Q-Was thsrs conversation between
your
Ave spoke of several topics.
Q-Did YOU observe him carefully?
o-Where did Thaw go after he left
A-Down the Twenty-sixth-st aisle.
Q--And TO see any OF the show from
that aisle he would have been Obliged
Ale would have had TO look well
around.
Off he looked to the right he could
have seen nothing but the elevator?
Ayes.
Witness Makes n Slip.
Q--And you said that Mr.. Thaw
looked over his left shoulder?
Al said he looked toward the chair
where Mr.. White was sitting.
Q-How did you know that Mr.
White was there?
Al beg your pardon, did not know
Mr. White was there.
story. He FASTENED 10 correct himself
saying that Thaw looked In the direc-
tion whore he later found White had
:. Q--But you made n mental note, of
the fact that Thaw's gaze was at that
time directed. not to the stage. but to
q seat.
Al did.
Q--And you set II forth in memoran-
dun later that nightf
Q--why did you make up your mind
that he was looking at the spot where
Mr. White was sitting?
A--Because, when | found the muir
recalled the fact that he had been
looking In that direction.
The answer was given with feeling
chair. his face. Redeemed and he gave
the answer In deliberate fashion.
maker '"a' '"e pest answer you
Q--ft was not what you saw but a
conclusion you came 10 after YOU had
found that your brother law was
Ayes sir, partly from what 1 saw
and partly from what subsequently
concluded.
Q-When did you arise?
A--As soon as l heard the shot.
Q-What did you do?
Al went 20 Mr. Thaw TO ask him
o-Were you the first one near
him?
Ayes.
Q-Then what happenedi
A fireman wrested the pistol
from him. The crowd got up about
him and ] thought they were going
to mob him.
Q-Then what?
A crowd gathered. / stood with
In 16 feet OF Thaw. His hand was In
the rear like this (indicating) and
was afraid that the crowd was go
ing to mob him and l went away.
Gould you see Whites face?
Al did not see it, He had his
hands above his head.
Q-You are sure you did not see his
facef
Al am positive, else should have
him. ] asked the people
who the man was, but no one told
me. RI had stood q moment longer
and had slipped over toward the body
| would have recognized who 1t was.
Q-Whom did you ask about the
Identity OF the dead man?
Al don't know. asked two men.
They were strangers to me. Then the
crowd changed about and was
pushed away.
Q--Did you actually go and look at
the body for the purpose Of identin-
cation?
Ayes, did.
Q--Do you recall testifying at the
last trial that the face was beyond
Ayes, that is right. 4
Littleton Catches Smith.
Q-Did you testify that the face
was so black that you couldn't rec
ognize II?
Didn't you just tell me that you
could see nothing but the back OF the
head and the ears?
Al said SO.
Q-Then what do you mean by say
ing that what you saw was so black
you could not recognize him?
A-The back of his head and ears
were black with powder.
Q-where did you 60 after you
asked the people who the dead man
wasY
Al went out, strolled up Broad