The Washington times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1902-1939, 1908-12-21
Praises Gary and Calls.
Schwab Public Bene-
factor.
AGAIN SPEAKS FOR
REMOVAL OF DUTY
TeSty Replies Worry Payne, Who
Says He Must Go Elsewhere
for the Facts.

Both instruction and entertainment
were given to members of the House
Ways and Means Committee today by
Andrew Carnegie. who recently startled
the steel and iron men Of the world
with an article advocating the removal
Of the duty on steel
The Laird Of Skibo. who brought with
him the atmosphere of his native heath,
not only explained why he believed the
steel tariff unnecessary, but injected
homely bits OF philosophy and fun that
served to illuminate the subject and keep
even the staudpatters on the commit
tee. except Chairman Payne, in a good
humor.
Incidentally he tossed bouquets at
Gary. Schwab, and other steel mag
mates. Gary was q 'pawI1y chiel
Schwab was a genius and deserved the
thanks of Congress. To himself Car
negie mOdestIy ascribed "a little saving
common sense" His genIaiity did not
extend. however, to Wall Street, for he
declared that the stock broker was one
OF the worst citizens the country could
have
After Mr.. Carnegie had taken the
oath today Chairman Payne explained
that the committee had been moved to
invite him in the first instance on aC-
count Of an article recently published,
In which he said that a tariff on sUeei
was unnecessary.
Carnegie said that n great consumer
OF steel had testified to the same effect.
and so he considered his statement con-
fTmed.
Story Confirmed.
4 do not believe II necessary TO go
into details TO justify my statement"
he said.
Judge Gary of the Steel Corporation"
SAID Chairman Payne, told us that the
corporation could make pig iron Tor s.
a ton less than its competitors. Would
The removal OF the tariff cripple inde-
pendent concerns
There are more ways Of figuring
cost answ cred Carnegie, 'tLan there
are ways OF killing a cat A ton of
steel can now be made cheaper in Amer
lean than in foreign countries. If a
Test were made now II would be seen
that Pittsburg would not lose the hon
or Of being the place where tie cheap
est steel in the world can be pro-
duced-"
Mr. Schwab says that the present
cost of steel rails is SZl-5O a ton" re-
marked Representative DaizeII.
The corporation pays 20 cents a ton
Chairman Payne interrupted him 10
say. Judge Gary says tuat they pay
the Great Northern Company 80 cents
ton royalty
The corporation has not smclted
ton OF iron from the Great Northern
ores said Carnegie. They have the
right 10 cancel the contract hl ten
years II is a speculation in ore. Ny
point Is that the cost OF production here
is cheaper than abroad, and thar no
tariff IS needed. 1t is impossible for
foreigners seriously TO compete with
home manufacturers.
Puff for Gary.
Judge Gary is the ablest man 1 know
in the steel business He tells you that
his great concern does not need the
tariff. but others do. His consideration
and sympathy for his councillors or
those who should he his competitors is /
sublime. 1t reminds me Of the fable OF
the monkey that wanted to pull chest
nuts out Of the fire. and devolved that
duty upon the cat
Chairman Payne quoted the president
Of the Pennsylvania Steel Company as
having said that the cost of making
rails is $3.50 a ton-
Carnegie's answer was: L say that
II he made rails at that price and sold
at loss in Canada that stock of his
company would not be above par. The I
Pennsylvania Company, which owns the
plant, would soon get a new manage
ment"
He said that the Cambria Steel Com
pany, Of Johnstown, Pa, could come
within dollar and a half a ton OF max
ing steel at the same price as the Steel
corporation.
Chairman Payne made some remarks /
10 Representative Dalzel. Carnegie no /
ticed il and exclaimed "Mr. Dalzell, |
what was that remark2"
Dalzell did not answer, but Payne /