The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1908-01-23
THE THAW TRIAL

Hanilton, Mcdonald. Flint and Mahon.
subsequently, Drs. Mcdonald and Gay
away. I asked him why he objected
to the examination. and he said these
physicians and his former attorneys.
the district attorney, friends OF the
"blackguard." He referred to Stanford
White as the beast" "blackguard"
and the miserable creature"
Employed f@tukrrtvn Men.-
He feared that these men were In
league TO send him to an insane asy-
lum. He then told me about what he
called the criminal performances OF
He claimed they were systematically
engaged in running young girls and
that White was the chief instigator.
He had tried TO get evidence against
He said that he had gone to Anthony
Comstock, but he had done nothing.
as Comstock was waiting for him to
act. He also said that when he once
visited Comstock's Office he was told
by soma ONE that the Comstock people
would attend to their own business.
He also told me that he had employed
against Stanford White and that he
was anxious to get White into the peni-
Tertiary. He added that White had en-
ployed a gang OF thugs to follow and
attack him in secret. He feared that
they would beat him to death.
He said that because OF this he had
Deen ADVISED Dy tSOkcT " mara 10 CaFTy
a pistol. He said that he had some al
tercations with other parties, but he
did not think they belonged TO the
Monk" Eastman gang, so he did not
use his pistol He added that IL he
was attacked by any memberg OF the
Eastman gang, he would use his gun.
He talked in a trembling way and took
much longer to relate IL than II does
here In court He said that any number
OF persons might be found who believed
that his mind was disordered, but he
felt that. they would not ind any one
who could prove It. lie laughed in a
very superior way and said that he
knew he was not crazy.
asked him IL he had had any inten-
said he had not. that what ne wanted
TO do was. TO get evidence TO, send
him 10 Jail. Then. he hesitatsd and
said that. after ALL this was the bet;
been sent TO jail he might have been
pardoned. I asked him whether It
wasn't a harsh way OF removing a
him II he realized n he was In "A very
dangerous position, and he said: Well.
you see. Providence took the matter
entirely out OF my hands"
His manner was overbearing.
o-You made another examination
A~Tes. asked .Thaw number OF
questions, which he answered. con-
tinually INTERPRETING reference 10 his
own affairs that were not answers TO
my questions. He said he had had Ut.
Vitus dance, mumps, measles and scarlet
fever, and that he had been told that
he had had commissions, but he was
not very clear about any. OF them In
his early years he said he went TO
kindergarten and then TO other schools.
He said he once went to Harvard be-
cause he wanted TO study law. but he
gave that up In 1895 and went TO Eu-
rope. thinking he would be a painter.
He said he did not think he was "a
dissipated man In the ordinary sense
OF the word. or that he had been In the
habit OF associating with lewd women.
Heart aud Pulse Rapid.
Dr. Wagner then testified further
nerves and FOUND conditions almost
normal. Ills pulse ranged from SO
10 1O7 being very Irregular. His
heart, too, ran from So TO VOC, but
would then jump back 40 30 Or SO. We
had him walk across the room on
straight line and made him turn at
word OF command He turned IN a
normal manner. IL he had turned STAG
gering. ~ would have been sign OF
unsoundness We had him repeat
words and sentences 20 test his speech;
We had him say. "Chrysanthemu
and around the rugged rock the
ragged rascal ram"
lie repeated them fairly well.
DIR. Wasper's testimony supports the
contention OF the defense mat Thaw
wis insane 40 TO and Including the
night he shot and killed Stanford
White. that he began 20 resume his
normal mental condition Immediately
after the tragedy. Br. Wagner visited
hin, in the Tombs about a month and
half after the shooting.