New-York tribune., 1908-07-25
TO WE'D In THE TOMBS
ROMANCE IN GOULD CASE.
Hiss Fleming Makes Confession
Substantiating Perjury Charges.


terday of Miss Mabel MscCausan. the complaining
witness in the charges OF subornation OF perjury
In the Frank ]. Gould divorce suit the defence OF
Mousley, the detective. and Mrs. Ben Teal was OUT
lined. Before the hearing began Miss Julia Flenl-
ing, the third prisoner in the case. and the one
overlooked when the others bailed out. turned
states evidence and waving examination was re-
manded back to the City Prison She is TO be mar
ried in the Tombs to-day. and her hance was ABOUT
court most of the afternoon, protesting his abso-
Lutte faith in the prisoner.
Frank J. Gould was in court all through the ex-
animation OF Miss MacCauslan. and will be there
again Tuesday evening. when he probably viii tes-
tify that he knew nothing Of the alleged plot to
manufacture evidence against him. since he was
subpoenaed by the defence Maurice B. Bluner-
thai. who began the examination of Miss
MacCauslan. in seeking to introduce certain testi
nnony, said that the defence would prove. In the
hearing before Magistrate Corrigan and elsewhere.
that Miss MacCausIan knew of the Gould divorce
suit before she saw Mrs. Teal. and that she began
the talk about the alleged incident with Miss De-
Voc instead OF Mrs Teal, and that instead OF Mrs
Teal trying to get her to make the affidavit against
Mr. Could. she went to Mrs. Teal for advice
about 1t.
Mrs Fleming was taken over to Assistant Dis
trict Attorney hart's office early in the morning by
her counsel. Edward Carpet. Even the attendant
who brought her the Bridge Of Sighs was
excluded from Mr. Hart's office, but that she gave
a statement of her connection with the case which
eorroborates Miss MacCauslans story TO a consid-
cradle extent was learned on trustworthy autnor-
ity. The assistance which she has given TO the
prosecution is said to have been prompted by the
release of Mrs Teal and Mousley on bail while she
had to spend her time in the TOmbs. where practi-
cay her only visitor has been the man she Is TO
marry to-day
Mr Hart would not make public the details Of
Mrs. Fieming's statement 70 him, but what he did
say confirmed the impression that she had made a
full confession.
Mrs Fleming he said. has given material TO
me that will give great benefit to the prosecution
when this case is called to trial"
Mrs Teal, accompanied by her husband, went 10
the Centre street court when the case was called
for trial. She looked and acted though much
perturbed Miss MaeCauslan was calm and self
possessed while Mousey had little TO say and kept
close to the Teals Just before the time came for
the case to be called Frank Jay Gould and his
counsel, Cornelius ]. Sullivan. entered the room
The stuffy courtroom was unusually hot and Mrs
TeaTs maid, Christie Wood. was kept busy tanning
her. Magistrate COrrigan told counsel that the
hearing would he held in of the Special Ses-
sions rooms and adjourned the until the rou-
tine work of the police court was got out or the
way.
when the usual motions to dismiss the case had
been made Mr.. Hart said:
Your Honor the confession made to me to-day
bv Julia Fleming and the affidavit of Blanche Hale
corroborating that OF Miss McCauslan. will not be
presented before you. 1 feel that have enough
evidence TO hold the prisoners and will not pre-
Miss Fleming brought over from the Tomos'
leaning heavily on the arm of her counsel. appar-
entity hardly able to walk. She waived exarnlnd-
ton and went back TO the Tombs After pnotos-
raphers had been excluded from the court, the
direct examination of Miss McCauslan by Mr. Hart
began She told substantially. but with more de-
tail the story set forth in her affidavit. which
caused the arrest of the private detective and the
two women.
Maurice B. Blumenthal was present for MIS-
Teal while Mousley was represented by ex-Assist-
ant District Attorney -cardoze and his brother and
Mr. I.athrop, of Cardozo & Lathrop, and hf.
Smythe
Before Mr. Blumenthal began his cross-exannira-
tion it was agreed that the examination should De
taken I'D again on Tuesday afternoon. as the zosti
case would fill all Monday afternoon and evening
Magistrate Corrigan suggested that it be continued
on Sunday. but Mr.. Bumenthal objected TO that.
although not religious grounds. ne was careIui
to explain. Mr.. Gould is to see his children on
Tuesday but MFR. Sullivan promised to nave MIN
I'm court by s o'clock in the evening
At several times during his cross-examnatien
Mr. Blumenthal took occasion to say that Miss
MacCauslan an exceedingly capable person
for girl of eighteen. a compliment that seemed
10 come more and more from the heart as ne
failed TO shake her testimony
I'D to last month, she said, she had lived with
a married sister, until she went to live in Harlem
with her ehum. Ethel Conklin. Since she left the
Fifth avenue mliner by whom she had been en-
ployed. she said. her relatives had paid her e&-
penses.
Miss MacCauslan said she had heard of the
Goulds before Mrs Teal mentioned them but had
paid no particular attention to their domestic trou-
bles She said she had a good memory. l mean
a good memory. Mr.. Blumenthal." she said. "If
know thing can remember 1t. No. not con-
venient memory Yes, I think know what you're
trying to get
DO you mean to say" demanded Mr. Blunen
thai that you had not in your mind all these
rumors about Mr.. Gould and Miss DeVoe before
you ever spoke to Mrs. Teal about it?
Mr.. Hart objected
Your honor said Mr.. Rlumenthal. I'VE propose
to show that Miss MacCausland knew all about
these rurnors before she ever broached the subject
20 Mrs Teal that she fully familiar with the
fact that Mrs. Gould was trying TO get evidence
against Mr. Could and Mr. Gould against Mrs.
Gould and that she came to Mrs Teal 70 ask her
how TO market what she knew about the that
when she saw Mrs. Teal she actually opened the
discussion of the Gould affair telling her that she
knew something that would be valuable to Mrs.
Could and that she told others-gfrls she met in
millinery shops and theatrical friends of hers
about the before she had talk with Mrs.
Teal II we can show this the case against Mrs.
Teal falls"
II don't think TIL permit the question, said Mag
istrate Corrigan
why your honor this young woman wanted TO
be e witness in this sensational divorce case 10
gain brilliant entrance the profession she had
chosen burst out the lawyer
That has nothing 10 do with the rumors.' said
Mr. Hart despite the counsels brilliant oratory."
Objection sustained ruled the magistrate.
You needn't answer"
Miss MacCausland said she had only heard of
Bessie Devoe through a lawyer and Mrs. Teal.
She said that the fear OF discovery and unwilling
ness to swear to lie two Of the reasons she
had given Mrs Teal and Miss Fleming for not
wanting to make the false affidavit.
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