The San Francisco call., 1908-09-01
GUILFOY SAYS He
HAS POOR MEMORY
Not Certain That He Stated lie
Favored Conviction of
Grafters"
Controversy Over the Ruef
TaIesman Consumes Nearly
Whole Days Session

Throughout the trial OF Abe Ruef
before superior Judge Lawlor yester-
day there ran the movement of the
- prosecution TO impeach James Gulltoy,
one of the veniremen, and as counter
point. the less successful exercise Of
The defense TO impeach William a
-Conneau. brother in law Of District
Attorney William II. Langdon. now
employed with Special Agent William
J. Burns in investigating the panel OF
jurors dawn to try the graft cases.
BY Conneau's testimony and the re-
luctant half admissions Of the juror,
the latter was fairly impeached, but
the question has not yet been put TO
the court as Henry Ach for Ruef has
a few more witnesses to call in the
matter.
Aside from Guilfoy three veniremen
were examined and passed upon and
one partly examined yesterday. One
man. Matthias j. Meyer. an elderly man
living at. 22r Geary street, was passed
subject to peremptory challenge. and
Lewis K}einhans, 227 Waller street.
and Joseph A. Davis, 81 Carl street,
We're excused. John Beuttler, a butcher
Of 7S2 Haight street, WAS under eX-
animation when court adjourned.
There are now two talesmen passed
subject to peremptory challeng nge-AleX-
Scott street, and Meyer.
GOOD HUSEoR IN EXAMTN ALTON
There was an -undercurrent of good
hunor in the passages. between As
sistant District Attorney Heney and
RUefs lawyer Henry Achi yesterday.
They clashed frequently. but not sui
Ienlv Heney got back at Ach's long
catalogue Of persons supposed to be in
the employ of Burns by reciting the
ups 10 tamper with the progress of
justice. He named Butch Bell. Billy
BeU coterie. of dive keepers. and
others, including kid" Nelson. an eX-
prize fighter. and Kid" Sullivan, whom
ae characterized as a ''pickpocket.n
Ach sprang Vaiiantly TO the defense
Of the latter kid, and Judge -Lawlor
sustained his objection to the epithet
OF 'pickpOcket." He was in the peni-
.. .tent1ary and 1 have ms record" Heney
Commented.
The closest the two lawyers came to
personalities was when. Ach objected
10 Heney turning red in the face and
ueney took exception TO the way Ach
pointed a lead pencil at him.,
GUILFoY STARTS CONTROVERSY
Tie Guilfoy controversy started
early in the morning session. On
Thursday last. when Heney. frs. exam
lned the Venireman, who lives at 952
Eapp street and whose sons operate a
cornice and sheet metal factory in
Eighth street near Howard. GIilfoy de-
ulared that he had never made any
statement in which he. declared that he
favored wholesale conviction of the
persons indicted for; grating: He de-
clared that any such statements
ascribed 10 him were manufactured" 3"
Yesterday morning Heney confronted
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Burns staH testified that -GuiIfoy had
been very vehement in bis declaration
that wholesale: punishment should be
inflicted: If he says / said that, may
be- L did, CSujlfoY- revised his testi-
nony.. Il have q bad memory
Ach took. Conneau. in hand. and made
considerable capital out of the fact that
the witness testified that he had seen
Guilfoy OH June 2S at his. place Of busi-
ness, and then the lawyer: pointed out
that June IS. fell on sunday. Conneau
was positive that he did not go to the
place on Sunday, but held to his version
Of the testimony.
ACH TRIES TO GET NAMES
!. .Ach tried to get out of conneau the
fun Fist OF names of those he inter
viewed, together with. the information
he CLEANED, but Heney interp0sed q
vigorous objection, showing. that all
such information iegitlInately belonged
10 the peoples cases and should not be
made available to the defense. Judge
Lsawler took Heney,s view OF the case.
.0n examination Conneau said that he
learned Of Guilfoys real views on the
graft situation from Z. A. Perry. who
had told the witness that some people
would pay to be on the Ruef jury.
Miss Mary L. Doyle, a stenographer
in. the employ OF the city and working
for Burns, identified the transcription
she made from Conneau's report In
the .afternoOn Ach called Charles Ii.
Do0gherty, a book keeper and Charles
Hayes, a sdraughtsman in the employ Of
the GuilEoy cognice works, ard John a.
sGgilfoy, a. son OF the VenireInan None
Of those could throw any light on the
Question al issue between the prosecu-
ion and the defense. Thomas Guilfey.
another son. will be called this morn
ing,-
sEHEa HAS. N9F OPINION
- Matthias D.. Meyer. the. Juror passed.
stated that he had expressed opinions
either way on the graft case TO ap-
pease customers who would come into
the store but that in his heart he had
40 opinion and he realized, he said. that
whichever way he might decide on the
case he would be rolled over a barrett
by newspapers opposed to his point of
view. In spite of his years Meyers did
not fear the inevitable violence...
Judge Lawlor .intimated that night
sessions Of the court might be held
during the impeachment of the Jury.