Daily Kennebec journal., 1908-05-16


Examination having been resumed at
| o'clock by Mr. Jerome, DR.. Macdonald
said that there are many subtle indica-
tious Of an unsound mind which it Is diff
cult to describe In words, but which an
observer will readily detect in persons of
unsound mind, especially a paranoiac. In
his observations of Thaw he detected. he
said those indications Of an unsound
mind which he was accustomed to find in
persons suffering from paranoia. AZ 40
| = M. Mr.. Jerome announced that the re-
| snondent rested.
The first witness called by Mr.. Graham
| in rebuttal for DR.. Valde,nar Silo. phy-
| sician and surgeon, OF 353 East o''h
street, New, York, who said that ne saw
Thaw IA times in the Tombs and at Mat
teawan DR.. Sillo said that Thaw always
talked with him in a perfectly norman
manner Thaw, he said expressed dlssat-
isfaction with his first trial and with MS
former counsel, Mr. Delmas, but express
ed confidence in Mr.. Littleton ana me
outcome of his second trial. The witness
| saw Thaw at MatteaWan on April H.
| Thaw spoke sorrowfully of the n"toriety
to which his wife was then suDJected'
He said that he did not see what more
he could Go for her. DIR. Sillo SAID thal
Thaws actions impressed him as rational.
! TIE next witness called by the relatof
in rebuttal was Rev. Luke p. Evers,
Catholic chaplain of the Tombs, VINO said
he saw Thaw many times in that prison
and talked with him on great variety
of topics His conversations We're quite
rational Rev John A. Wade, Episcopal
chaplain of the Tonbs, the next witness
said he had mary talks with Thaw, who
attended the Protestant services on Sun
days.
DR.. Wade testified that Thaw was inter-
ested in some of the prisoners and helped
a number of poor ones with money. He
was always calm, courteous and coherent
and the witness never detected any delu-
sions. On Mr.. Jeromes questioning Mr..
Wade said his first impression was that
Thaw was insane but it did not last.
John j. Hatley head keeper of the
Tombs, said he never saw Thaw acting
in any but a normal, rational manner.
DR. George W. Jacoby was called by
Mr.. Graham and District Attorney Jerome
conceded his competency as an expert.
He examined Thaw in Matteawan on Feb.
10 and 13, in the Poughkeepsie Jail on
May 13 and in court today. He found q
healthy physical condition except for a
slightly disordered circulation. His men
tai condition. however, was good. Dr.
Jacoby read from notes the substance
of his conversations with ThaW concern
ing his early life, his studies, habits.
travels and family relations. He declared
that he never ''went OH sprees" but adj
mitted that he sometimes drank more
than he ought to.
DR.. Jacoby said that Thaw told him he
carried revolver only in New York be
cause he feared White meant to have him
Killed. He shot White, he said, from ir-
resistible impulse. He told me that he
never felt any remorse for killing White"
said the witness, 'and he could not I'M
derstand why this was so l found him
! logical. his memory good, he was able to
follow an argument, he was responsive.
did not endeavor to control the conver-
sation. was not unduly emotional fully
cosnizant of time. place and conditions,
calm and collected. spoke lilly of no one
and acted remarkably well for one in his
position
| From his examinations of Thaw and the
documents in evidence. DR.. Jacoby said
that he regarded Thaw as sane at present
Court adjourned at this point until even
| ing.
Mr. jerome began cross-eXamining DR..
Jacoby as soon as the evening session
opened.
Mr.. Jerome got DR.. Jacoby to disagree
with the testimony of Dr. Wagner that
Thaw was suffering from brain storm"
when he shot White.
i Hr. Graeme Hammond the next
expert for the relator AS a specialist in
mental diseases he said that from the re-
suit of his examination of Thaw it is his
opinion that Thaw is now sane and safe
to be at large He saw the prisoner on
I'eE. 6. April IA and today.
Mr.. Graham called Dr. Hammond back
and asked him if in his opinion rhaw is
a paranoiac. HE is not said DR.. Ham
mond.
When . o'clock came Thaw's counsel
| announced that they had no witness
ready and an adjournment was taken
until O'Clock tomorrow morning.