The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1908-08-31
Thirty Years Of Booze Fighting
More Than Enough for Late Pence

they would have got me sure. But 1
caught the gang, and / meant to expose
them, but District Attorney Manning beat
me to il. / have stood all sorts of insn-
uations in the newspapers and | have re-
manned silent, so that [ might get my af-
fairs in shape to clear me from debt.
am now about ready to begin work and
get out of debt, and l want to make
statement, pro bono publico, giving the
whole history of transactions of the Pence
company
Net Result Is Four Dollars.
This and much more, Mr.. Pence said
In an effort to have the court listen to
his statement. He said it would require
an hour for him TO make his statement
and Judge Morrow said that while it
would no doubt be highly interesting there
was nothing before the court and it could
not be done as judicial proceeding.
Mr.. Pence's request for permission to
make the expose came at the end of
long grilling he had undergone on the
witness stand at the hands of Attorney w.
II. Fowler. who had cited him to appear
in supplementary proceedings in an effort
TO discover property on which to satisfy
Judgment for s5S2. 81 against the eX-con-
gresham. This judgment was obtained in
1906 by Allen c. Durborrow of Chicago.
who served in congress with Pence and
had lent him money.
''As net result of the mornings ex-
animation the attorney secured 81 to ap-
ply on his judgment. This amount Pence
admitted he had on his person, and he
paid il over to the clerk of the court. He
said he had no jewelry. Il sold all my
diamonds before | ran for congress as a
POpulist, he said. He said that he owns
,9S7 out of 5000 shares of the Pence COM
pany and that there is no reason why
these shares should not be reached by at
tachment and execution. but Attorney
Fowler said he could not see any value
there.
Pence Jokes With Attorney.
Fowler and Pence occasionally engaged
in spicy colloquy. Pence said that he is
now receiving no salary; but if it rains
next winter, he said the hydraulics will
begin To turn. the Pence company will
begin TO realize on its work and he will
have enough in salary in one week to pay
little amounts like the Durborrow judg
ment- He said he has had no bank ac-
count since June %, 1907. on which date
the Title Trust * Guaranty company re-
fused to honor any more checks. Since
that date. he said, he has not spoken to
j. ThOrburn Ross.
He said he had requested his own at
tOrney to stay away from court this morn
ing, because he wanted to let the bars
down for the fullest inquiry, but he did
send an invitation to Wallace McCamant,
attorney for Ross, that he might be
present and ask any questions he might
see fit in connection with his anticipated
statement concerning the defunct bank.
THE witness said that all his holdings
are in the Pence company, composed of
himself, his son and c. NJ. Idleman, his
attorney. He stated that he has just closed
contract with the United Railways for
the excavation of 100000 yards of earth
at 10 cents per yard, the work to open in
November. He described the fumes and
other property of the company grounds,
and also the Balch creek property.
I'm June, 1901 he said, the Ross bank
took a mortgage on all the Pence hold
ings. but just before the bank failure he
secured a release of the mortgage on
the Balch creek property. He said this
release came after he had gone to w. NJ.
Ladd and made complaint concerning
soma of Ross dealings.
Explains jackson Reid Matter.
Pence said that when he left congress
he owed about $4,000. Now he owes about
$4,000 above his property. He said his
debt to j. S. McMillin of Seattle is about
$4,000. Asked whether he has an interest
in options of the Pence company. he said
he had taken an option on eighty-five
acres in Guilds lake from the Cottel sis
ters, but they have since sold sixty acres
of it. He said he owns practically all
the stock of the Portland Terminal Rail-
way company, but he was unable to name
the directors or the president and secre-
tary of the company. The assets of the
from the Cliff inn. on the Linnton road.
to the Cornelius gap, and through the gap
by tunnel. He says he expects to sell this
survey to the United Railways or to some
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Pence also explained the franchise OBJ
tanned on the Linnton road for an cleo
trio railway. This also he has been try
ing to sell but without success. He said
he had never offered any stock of his
companies for sale and could not speak as
to their market value.
Finally the witness explained the cir
cumstances under which he signed the
bond of Jackson Reid, the boy slayer of
George f. De Mars, for $4,000 He said
he explained just how his property stood
to Judge Morrow and he did not sign until
the full 5000 required for the bond had
been secured Then he asked permission
to sign for $4,000, and he said he was not
surprised that this had excited some or
his creditors. the most of whom he praised
for their patience. They have only a lit
tie longer to wait. he said. but he has not
the money now, except the 81 he carried
with him.
EXPERT KODAK FINISHING.