The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1908-10-25
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| ing appointing Mr.. Catheart to the
position of Attorney General. Know
ing that you are acquainted with him
I want to ask You if you know of any
thing against him, or of any reason why
should not appoint him. :"
replied; 81 know nothing of my
own knowledge. .
Mr. Dole then said: .sHave YOU
heard anything against him"
replied that had
Mr. Dole said, What have yoa
heard2''
I then told him of the conversation
which [ had sometime previously had
with Mr.. Kinney concerning the Ka-
piolani Estate matter.
A. M. Browns Statement.
While the conversation was still in
progress Arthur NJ Brown was ushered
into the room and took a seat close
by us.
Mr.. Dole continued conversation up,
on the subject of Mr.. Cathcart s con
templated appointment, and in the
course of the conversation said: q Mr..
Brown tells me that he has informa-
ton which eonvinces him that Mr.
Cathcart is corrupt and should not be
appointed to the office. That is your
feeling, IS it not Mr.. Brown?"
Mr.. Brown said: sit is
Mr.. Dole said: "And Mr. Chilling
worth is of the same opinion?''
Mr. Brown: "He is
Whether Mr. Chillingworth was pres
ent at this interview or not, L am
not certain. had thought that he was.
Mr.. Dole says that he does not remem-
Der about it and Mr. Chillingworth says
that he was not, but made a statement
to Mr.. Dole concerning Cathcart, at
Waikiki.
This second charge shook my con
fdence in Mr.. Cathcart; but as I did
not have full faith in Brown himself, /
again gave Cathcart the benefit of the
doubt.
Upon Governor Dole's failing to APP
point him Attorney General, Mr.. Cath
cart resigned his Office of deputy.
Upon number of occasions there
after I heard statements made deroga-
tory to Mr.. Cathcart, but no legal proof
was presented in support of them. He
was not holding any Office and I paid
no particular attention to them. having
40 responsibility in the matter.
Election of Two Years Ago.
The question has been asked why, |
showing of these things, I did not OPP
pose Mr.. Cathcart' IS election two years |
ago. There are several reasons. L had |
40 legal proof against him. The Col
ourn charge was one man s word |
against another and was supported only
oy circnmstantial evidence Mr.. Brown /
vas supporting Mr. Cathcart for cleo |
lion, and there was no reason to ex-
beet any assistance from him, as the
Advertiser was then vigorously oppos- /
ng Brown s election
[ was in no position to make any |
effective opposition to Mr.. Cathcart s I
election, if I had wanted to; and, more |
,ver, although shaken in my confidence |
n him, I was still unconvinced that he /
vas corrupt.
Condemned Out of His Own Mouth.
In January or February, 1907, after
Mr.. Gathcart s election as County At. +
orney, in November, 1906, I being then
n Washington, Mr.. Catheart being at
on business, called on me,
nd in the course of the conversation
poke of the attitude of the Advertiser
nd its editor toward him, saying that
t was unfriendly, and that he, Cath
art, did not deserve it at their hands;
hat he was entitled to their support.
I asked what he meant by saying
hat he was entitled to their support.
Mr.. Cathcart then said to me:
"Do you remember the time when
hat Royalist Grand Jury and Judge
were trying to get Walter
I. Smith into Jail, and finally returned
n indictment against himq''
I replied: ct do ,"
confessed to Fixing an Indictment.
Continuing Mr. Catheart said: 81
ried all that [ could to head off that
elton, believing that it was purely
and without founda ton, and
7hen 7 found that 7 could not do so,
nd the Grand Jury directed me to
raw an indictment, drew it in such
hape that it was fatally defective and
vould have to be so found by the court,
ven if conviction had taken place.
I said to Mr.. Cathcart. Did you do
his at Walter G. Smith 8 request, or
-as he aware of what You didR' II
He replied: ono. He knew nothing
bout it and I have never told him.
ut I am telling you now, so that you