The Detroit times. [volume] (Detroit, Mich.) 1903-1920, 1908-01-13
THE THAW TRIAL


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Several other questions followed
about details on the roof which had
been omitted in the diagram drawn by
the witness, indicated that Mr. Little.
ton wanted TO acquaint the jury with
the fact that the witness had been
lacking in his work and at the same
time might have been Inaccurate.
Q-Were you alone?
Al was
Q-AWhat was the play?
A-Madame Champagne.
Did you see stanford White
Al did not.
Q-Where AHA you take q seat.
A-On the Madison-ave. side In the
Odd you see the defendant Tbaw
on that nfghtg
Al did.
SLOW dss long after you took your
About Is minutes after I sat
down l saw him come In with his vile
and a party Of friends.
Q-What did he do?
Ale came down my way.
Q-pld he pass by your
Q-Then what did he dor
Ale stopped and spoke TO me.
Q-What did he saN
Ale said: How do you do. That's
funny ! could only get three seats" I
going to stroll tonight" With that
he turned away from me and standing
looking over the audience. Then he
said: ri YOU don't mind I'll sit down
here" He said: Have a cigar" and
when I said was a very light smoker
and occasionally smoked cigar he
offered me. one. ] took one. He had a
cigar In his mouth at that time. After
a Ix irQ fatxy Ne .f ~ 10 ols Ia a.
How do you like the plays? | replied:
Well don't care very much for IT,"
He said II was nothing but vaudeville
and anyway 1t was hard TO get a good
show for summer run. He said:
What are you doing in Wall-st. now
adaysY Are you speculating at alp
1 said: No. I'm not doing. anything
replied: Well, copper Is pretty good
now. In fact II / had any money to
invest nemr -F'.t-itzsA. Into copper
little steel. but / do not know very
much about copper" He then said;
What are you going 10 do this sum
merTf said that was going TO Eu-
rope on the Deutschland and he said
that he did not care for that steamer.
lie said he hoped to go TO Europe him
self very soon. He asked: do you
yes. I know all about it, ! replied.
He said that he liked the Amerlka--
that he would get one of the large
su!tss-ahd- that he would nave his
meals served In his room at small
tables the same as they do at the Wal
dorf or Delmonico's.
Peculiar Questions.
Then he asked me; Are you In New
w mGtH ala al not come out with Sa me Wy
go back to Europe"
He said to me: Are you very. much
inarriedy and as asked What do you
mean? He replied that he could intro
duce me 20 very nice girl. I asked:
lis she on the roof garden tonightY
ed as to what kind OF looking girl
she twas. he said she was buxom
her address. ] said: That liz very kind
with it He then said: DO YOU know
the members of my perty?@f replied
that i had known McCaleb for years.
but had been introduced TO Truyton
II was funny that l never met Beale
before that lie said: 'Beale is a very
fine fellows very prominent man.
told him that had known Mr.. Beale
by reputation. He then said: DO you
remember an affair of several years
aog In which two men and woman
You are too young man TO know any
s do You @f tSnk f ann Hs casa sald that G he
thought ] was about 81 or 90. i said:
told him was 81 or 81. He seemed
much surprised when told him that
and remarked: Well. i never would
have thought So Then he stood up on
his feet and again looked about tho
and then to the left. Then he turned
walk down here few minutes. lie.
walked down the aisle looking ~over
his left shoulder and continued to look
I'm that direction until he reached tho
av.A Of fah l.l 10 ar
ing for a few moments and started
back TO the seats where his wife and
party sat. McCnleb got UP and gave
and took the seat beside me that Thaw
had vacated. He talked awhile until
Thaw returned. whereupon McCaleb
sn s and sana rea es Tsaw
s,aysins; No; don't get up, I'm not GO :
down here awhile.
The Tragedy On the Roof.
He walked up the stairs to the gal
lery and two or three minutes after
saw him coming down again. AS he
passed me he smiled and walked down
TO the seat occupied by his party,
nodded and then they got up and left.
Mrs. Thaw and Mrs. Caleb led the way
with Thaw and Beale following Bea1e
went to q friend few moments before
he reached the aisle. Then the two re-
sumed and the next instant / heard
three shots. i jumped to my. feet at
once and saw a black cloud OF smoke.
A crowd gathered around and when l
passed through l saw Thaw with a
pistol In his hand pointed toward the
ground"
o-How aid al, he hold the pistoi'
Did you see White that night
Al did not.
DID you see figure on the moor
after the shots were fired?
Al saw the form of man lying on
his side in a pool OF bleed. asked the
people who II was lying there and no
one one eeI ,s tel mn me- eenrn moved to the
could recognize the face, but before
could get a view OF IL the people were
asked to leave the place and so went
out.
Littleton then took the witness In
hand for cross-examination.
GLOW long did YOU know Mr..
A-Since his marriage.
Q-Were your relations with him
pleasant?
A---oh, OF course they were. He
called at my home ana i visited him.
Q-How bong before the shooting had
YOU seen Him?
Al think visited him two or three
weeks before at his ONCE.
Q--Is IL not fact that he dined
with you at the Hotel Webster within
two weeks OF his death?
Al can't recall that he did:
Q-Can you recall that he did notl
No, 1 cannot.
Q--What time did you leave your
hotel on the evening OF June 20?
A--About or $50. 4 walked alone
10 the Hotel Astor.
o--How did you go to the roof gar
den from there?
Any recollection 10 that 1 went
down Broadway.
Q--When you sat down did you see
any one you knewi
A--No.
Q-Who was the first one that you
sawf
AFR. Thaw.
Q-Where was Mr.. Thaw when you