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The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
Especial to the Evening start


TRENTON, Feb. 2S.-Great Keeper
of Record Daniel NJ. Stevens, of Cam .
den, scalped Past Sachem Charles II.
Fitzgerald, of Mount Holly, in the
fight for the records stump at the
f~ifty-seventh great sun great council
fire of the Improved Order of Red Men
in the Y. NJ. c. A. wigwam. Stevens
has held the position for % years, and
Fitzgerald thought it would be possible
to work the ''skiddoo'' trick this year,
but 1t failed, although the Mount
Holly man made a good run.
Emil w. Schabilon, of Hackensach,
was elected great sachem. The other
chiefs elected and installed this after
noon were:
Great prophet, Frank P. Jackson,
Camden; great senior sycamore, Harry
j. Rathbone. Trenton; great junior
sycamore, John Thompson, Avon-by-
the-Sea; great keeper of wampum.
william J. Smythe, Long Branch.
Representatives to the Grand CounC ]
of the United States, Frank p. jack
on, Camden; Herbert f.. Stetser, Glou-
cester; James NJ. Coleman, Atlantic
City; Clark Cole, Phillipsburg.
The report of retiring Great Sacheri
Jackson showed that during the year
the order in the State gained a mem,
bership of 564 over the previous year..
and, after the number of dismissais
and Withdrawals had been deducted,
the total membership of the 1913 tribes
in the State is 26,6SS, and the order is
now the second largest in the State.
The session closed this afternoon.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
PERU PHYSICIANS
CALLED FOR THE
YANKEE ADMIRAL
Bob to Take Ameri=
can Fleet Out of HarbOr
Tomorrow.

LIMA, Feb. 2s.-Two Peruvian physi-
clans, Drs. Laird and Rospilgiosi, were
today called to Rear Admiral Evans on
board the flagship Connecticut, and
after a consultation declared that Adj
miral Evans was suffering from rheu-
matte gouts but that his condition was
not serious.
A course Of treatment was begun, and
it is believed that he will be able to
direct the movements of the battleships
on their departure tomorrow.
Another bull fight was given yester7
day afternoon. at which were l,50O otl-
GERS and sailors from the feet.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
LIrERARY SOCIETY PROGRAM.

The Parnassian Literary Society of
the South Orange High School rendered
the following progra at exercises
after the close of school yesterday:
Cello solo, Miss Beatrice MACEDONIAN.
accompanied by Miss Elaine Foster;
original poem, Miss Carol Rodman,
read by Miss Frances Johnson; account
of foreign travels, Miss Louise Connell,
read by Miss Rodman; original story,
Herbert Brautigam, read by PAUL Ed
wards; Parnassian paper, read by the
editor, Royal Schaaf.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
YOUNGEST DAUGHTER OF
REVOLUTION DIES AT so.
Her Father Participated in Bat
tie of Princeton Under
General Washington.

LANCASTER, Pa, Feb. 2s.-Mrs.
Lydia A. White, aged so. a real daugh-
ter of the American Revolution and the
youngest Of them all, is dead She was
in the enjoyment of good health until a
few days ago. when a severe cold was
followed by pneumonia.
Her father was George Leonard. who
served in the Revolution under Wash
ington and participated In the battles
of Brandywine, Princeton and German
town. and she was the daughter of his
old age.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
ERIE COMMUTERS SOON
TO SHOOT THROUGH TUBE.

President f.. D. Underwood. of the
Erie Railroad. announced today that
through service in the McAdoo tunnel
will shortly be available for passen-
gers.
1.-THE contract between the Erie Rail-
road and the Hudson River Tunnel
Company has already been signed
said Mr.. Underwood, and we can make
connections with the new tunnel within
a few months. The Erie Railroad viii
positively with the tunnel"
President Underwood also declares
that the Greenwood Lake branch OF the
Erie Railroad win soon be electrically
equipped
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
DEFINING SUIT STILL ON.

Numerous letters which passed be-
tween Adolph Kern, of New York, and
the Goldschmidt brothers, of Essen
Ruhr, Germany. in the early nineties,
we're admitted as evidence this morn
ing by Vice chancellor Howell in the
suit brought against the Vulcan De-
timing Company. of which Kerns is
manager. by the Goldschmidt brothers.
The suit involves the manner of Sc
curing a secret process used by the
compliments In defining scrap tin,
and infringement on the process by
the defendants.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
BuRLINGTON VETERAN WEEDS.

BURLINGTON, Feb. 2s.-A wedding
took place yesterday afternoon at the
residence of DIR. Charles Dingee, when
Miss Louisa Rose became the bride OF
George W. Anthony, past commander
of Parker Grubb Post, G. A. r. Civil
Wa veterans gave them a rousing
send-off as they boarded the train for
Atlantic City for a honeymoon.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
JAIL FOR RAID VICTIMS.
Three Women and Two Men in
Prison and PrOprietress Fined.

Judge Herr, in the Second Precinct
Court today, fined Mrs, Bridget Ter
rill, of 4S Lock street, $50 and costs for
maintaining a disorderly house. Cap
tain Brown IN his men raided the
place for the second time Tuesday
night. In addition Sadie Smith, of 252
Central avenue, Mrs. Nellie Cosgrove.
same address; Mrs. Nellie Brennan, of
81 Orange street; John Travis, who
claimed to board at the house. and
Michael Kinsella. of 129 Warren street,
who were also taken in the raid, were
each fined $25 or ninety days in jail.
They went to Jail.
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FIVE YEARS IN PRISON
FOR LEADER OF RIOTERS.

PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 2S.-Con-
victed of rioting in the demonstrative
parade OF idle workmen on Broad
street, February 20. Dominic D'Annelli
was sentenced last night to five years
imprisonment; Joseph Troi to Two
years. Michael Costello to eighteen
months and Francisco Pizicalo to one
year D'Annelli pleaded guilty to four
attempts at killing policemen with a
pistol,
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
HUMAN PIN STRIKE
LANDS BOWLER IN JAIL.
Young Victim of Attack in Sa-
loon in Hospital with Cut
and Bruised Head.

Charged with throwing a bowling
ball at the head of Vito Ramo. of 46
Garside street, who didn't appreciate
the strike Peter Roftrano. % years
old, of 3S Cutler street, was held in $500
bail for the Grand Jury today by
Judge Herr in the Second Precinct
Court. The row occurred in a saloon
last night, and Ramo went to the City
Hospital.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
MRS. cORNELIA WARDS FUNERAL.

The funeral Of Mrs. Cornelia S. Ward,
of 76 Broadway, Bayonne, who died on
Wednesday at the home of her daugh-
ter, Mrs. w. ]. Morrison, of Hickory
drive, Maplewood, win be held tomor-
row. sThe services will be conducted
by the Rev.. Wallace Fleming. and the
Interment win be made in the Mora
Wan Cemetery, Staten Island
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
NEW P. O. FOR HOB0KEN.
Bill Appropriating $75,OO0 Is
introduced in House.

Especial 10 the EVenIhg 6taf.I
WASHINGTON, Feb. 2S.--A bill APP
propriating $75. 900 for a new ~postofice
building and purchase of site for same
at Hoboken, N. j., was introduced in
the House today.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
BURGLAR GETS TWO WATCHES.

George Cikel reported to the Third
Precinct police yesterday that his
house, at 20 Congress street. was en-
tered yesterday. The thief got a silver
and a gold watch. both hunting case, a
cheap pin and one pair of shoes.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
REPORTS WIFE AND
STAR BOARDER MISSING.

Sigismondo Miami of rs South street,
Orange, reported to Desk Sergeant
Daniel Leary, of the Orange police, to-
day that his wife, Angelina, 20 years
old, with a 2O-months-old babe, were
missing since February IL. He also
said Onditi Carraro, who boarded with
him, was gone.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
GETS 90 DAYS FOR WHEEL THEFT.

On a charge of stealing a bicycle
from Ernest Herbert, of $50 Broad
street, William G. Cornell, IS, of -
Hunter street, was arraigned before
Judge Howell in the First Criminal
Court today and sentenced to ninety
days in jail
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
OLIVER STREET SCHOOL ALUMNI.

The monthly meeting of the Oliver
Street School Alumni Association win
be held al the school building next
Monday evening at 5 o'clock.
The star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1908-1909, 1908-02-28
COLONEL FLEMING IN HOSPITAL.

Colonel James Z. Fleming, who has
been i'll for some time. has been re-
moved from his home. 2s James street
10 st. Barnabas's Hospital
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Miss Adelns Stan.ey Car5icS,
the first woman to ride through
the new Hudson River Tunnel,
being up-to-date and progress
sive, naturally wanted a good
piano, so bought of us an Arm
strong Style R Piano No. ss233
and can speak only words of
praise for It.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
FIGHT BEIRG MADE FOR THE
 BEST PAYING JOB IN ALASKA

Walden, Jan, 24.-Newb received from Fairbanks iS to tho effect that n deter mined effort will be made this year to OIect the removal from ofnce of UDIted ssateS Marshal George Perry. Peti- tlons asking that he be removed and stating tho reason for the request have been circulated and freely signed, and are probably on dle with the depart ment of justice by this time.
 The position of United States mar shAl ip the Third District Of Alaska is the best federal otice in Alaska, yield Ing a large income In addition to the
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DOWNWARD COURSE
Fast being realized by Alaska people

A little bacKache ct first.
 Daily increasing till the back Is lame and weak.
 Urinary disorders quickly follow.
 Diaoetis and fnally Brighrs disease.
 This is the do8nward course Of kid- ney ills.
 I. Pedersed, longshorman, living at SIS Commercial t.. Astoria, Orc, says: "For 20 years I was afflicted in one way or another with kidney trouble. sut- fered great deal of pain in the small of the back and was continually tired and nervous, I had occasional head aches, and also blurring of the eye sight. Every time I took cold it settled in the kidneys and added to my troubles, the secretions at such times being irregular and containing sedi- ment My rest was much disturbed at night on this account. began taking Doan's Kidney Pills and found unex- pected relief for which 1 am very thankful"
 For sale by all dealers. Price 50 cents. Foster-Milburn Co.,, Buffalo, N, r., sole agents for the United States.
 Remember the name-Doan'5-and take no other.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
WIFE AND PARAHOUR TURNED OUT
 IN THE SNOW IN NIGHT CLOTHES

Boise, Idaho, Jan. 24-The way of the transgresuor is particularly hard iu winter. John Thompson returned at night unexpectedly to bis home near Placer7ille, this state, surprised Felix Carpenter in the house with his wife. Thompson turned the pair out into the snow with no protection from a storm save their night clothes and the nearest other shelter one aud a half miles dis tanl.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
UNCLE SAM RETIRES FROM
 CUBA AGAIN NEXT YEAR

Washington, Jan. 27,-AS far as he can, Secretary W. F, Taft has commit ted the government to e promluo to withdraw completely from Cuba in the beginning of spring in 1909. This pledge is contained ia letter from the Secretary to the President, transmit ting the report Of Governor MagoOn for the past year.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

his iather'a death. Mrs. Sweeney wanted tho boy home for Christmas, so she sent necessary money 50 the hos plGal at San Francisco.
 Christmas came and DO word from him but before the morning ended, the mail carrier brought a letter. She looked at It and iainted It was her own letter returned aud across the envelope was stamped the one word, Deserted"
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
INAORO I5 8EING PROSPECTED
 BY SHALL ARHY OF MINERS
tsy United ProoA)

Seward, Alaska, Jan. 27.-At least 200 or 300 men are wlntering in the Innoko region and a small humber along tho upper Euskoswim, is the report brought by H. J. Scott, Charles San. ders and ,. l.. Newcom, who came io over the trail. They report that fair returns were obtained by a small num- Der o' men working on Gaines creek, the tri5utsry Of the Inuoko river whore the origjna. placer strike was made last year in that district.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
MOTHER DIES OF HEART BREAK
 BECAUSE OF SONS MISCONDUCT

New York, Jan. 27-Mrs. Mary ?. Sweeney I.ed the other day of D broken hear, The funeral took place yesterday. Mrs. Sweeney had Saori- Gced much ia purchasing tho release from che navy Of her youngest son, John, wao had run away after bis
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TONIGHT CEMETERY MEETING.

visited the ground yesterday and Dr..
 Watson Is IT eady to report on an estl mate of the grade and cost of getting to the cemetery. The grade, he says, will not be over per cent, The cost he will give ap estimate upon tonight,
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1 LOST
A flat key. Please return to the Alas
 kan office and receive reward.

Large assortment oi Victor and Edi. son phonographes. Th- new Improved Types will reach Skagway this week. A good assortment of Re ords with all the October, November, December and J January selections. Leave order with agents now for any s'y!e machine % you caa have everything la:e in Songs and musical selections.
 T. R. Sewell,
 Agent. 6ritrs Drug Store
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GROW IN JANUARY

growing things 6 new impulse. The robins will soon be here to stay.
 Nobody who lives a thousand miles to the south of us and especially those people Of New York who are freezing to death. will believe it, but that won't keep us from enjoying the pleas ing fact,
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

Dr. Brawand, chairman Of the public meeting on cemetery, has issued a call for a meeting to be held tonight at the city hall at o'clock. Dr. Watson and M. S. Whittier, of the Elks' committee,
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
WOOD THAT WILL BURN

AIT kinds of stovewood delivered on short notice. General baggage and ex- press business.
 The Alaska Transfer Co.,, Phone No. 10. 25l-tS
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salary The percentage of profit to tho marshal on thV feeding of prisoners alone is greater than the salary Oi any other official
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Mrs. l., $. Keller yesterday gathered a bunch of paCSies that were growing cut in the weather of her front yard. The pussy willows are burSting Into leaf Gardeners all about town are getting ready for spring crops that arc pushing above ground. The bright sunlight of yesterday hss given all
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hang next month, the President has re- fused to interfere.

WANTED-To hear from my son, Arch or Arthur Harlck Last heard from in Los Angeles, Calf. Mrs Lon E. Rarick, 5l0S. Van Buren st., Iowa City. Iowa. S05-lt
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HAVE YOU SEEN

our-F. Canadius Felenius, If not drop in at Daylight and look at it-it is the prettiest now it ever was. Respectfully yours Herman Grimm.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
TOWN TALK
Mrs, Carl Falk, of Conrad, Is in town.
 

Mrs, Carl Falk, of Conrad, is in town,
 O0'Oo
 W S. Paddock, a Dawton raDCher, Is in the city on his way 10 the outside.
 ''oo The Georgia arrived up thiD alter noon bringing few passngerS but Q arge quantity of mail, She sailed this afternoon.
 ''sSss Rev. Mir. Atkinson, who has been conducting, with Rev. Mir. Good, union services during the D st week, returned to Juneau on the Georgia this after noon. &Ir, Atkinson is strong in bis praise of his reception here. Be s,ys
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

The Pack Train Restaurant will serve wine with dinner orders, free in place of tea or coffee. Come on Doys.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
ONLY ONE PROMO ou1NINE,

That Is LAXATIVE PROMO QUIN INE. Look for the st mature of D. w. GROVE. Used the World over to Cure cold in One Day. 25c F
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

Oyster Cocktails and Eastern Oysters on the half-shell, for private families and wolesale, at the YiennaBakery. tes
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FOR RENT-Nicely furnished three room house iu heart of city Majestic range etc, Sl0 per month enquire at this office. ti
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LOST-Opposite Clayson's store, pair of eye glasses. Reward and thanks If returned to this office. 305-lt
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

The Fifth Avenue hotel has unlimited Steam heat and every thing modern.
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LOST-A gold K, P. watch charm,
 fiuder will please leave 8t this office. lt
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The best dining room, the best hotel ac- commodations, the most comfort at the Fifth Avenue
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Seven room furnished house to rent on Third Avenue. Enquire of c. E. Howard. 264.tf
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in all his travels he has not seen an- other community that seems to him to be 80 united in public spirit os the peo- pie of skagway. Be says they are to be counted oa to pull together whenever required, He has greatly enjoyed his visit here and looks forward to his re- turn in about three months with pleas pre
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
P. KERN, GOLD AND SILVERSMITH Skagway, Alaska.

Christmas lucky numbers: 5275-Mrs. Pred Patten 56i2-Fred J. Webber 2683-Unknown 2945-Wm Hillery 5I96-Mrs. w. Shaw 54IO-G. A. Rosenberg 2495-R. F. Fleming 5465-Unknown 4046-W. H. Case 4538-Miss L. Caldwell 2S65-L. Bergman 356l-MisS L. Doerrer 3c6l-E. 2. Yaeger 36lO-P. Graves aOO5-Geo. Howard 2452-Unknown
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

A sa9 coat will only cost $2O at Beh- rerds' Sale.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

All the deicacies of the season 8 the Pack Train Restaurant.
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O Q e Q Q O

Rev. Mir. Good has received news of the death of tho mother of Rev. Mir, Harrison, formerly pastor of the Pres byterian church here. Mrs, Harrison was In skagway for a considerable time during the psstOrate here of Mir. Har- rlson, and Is we'll remembered. She was 72 years of age.
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27

The stage from Dlwson arrived Q WhitehOrse at p. m. today with the following passengers; H. M. Thorn burg, Ed Barton, James Monroe, J. T. Llthgow, O. F. Kastner and Ali. Wat nnn
The daily Alaskan., 1908-01-27
ALL ALASKA
IN A LINE OR TWO

New bosNh digginEs heve been dis covered at TopkOk.
  Ketchikan experienced a storm with a thunder and lightning accompaniment on the 7th inst.
 sosS SSs The first Eskimo divorce suit is re- corded at Nome, The correspondent cited is a white man. v..
  A start has been made for the estab- lIuhment of paper pulp mill at Swan. uon's bay, point about l5O miles south of Kelchlkan.
  In the case of Perovich, the Fair- banks murderer who is sentenced to
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Q Q Q Q Q Q

The lecture at the Presbyterian church, with colored stereOptican lllustra.iOn0-Egypt and the Nile--iS to be verIed by recitation by Mrs. Tad HillerY. A solo will be sung by Mir. Monty Snow. The lecture is to be free and full house Is expected this evening.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

Let 1t be understood tlearly that the
democratic party is not driven TO the plan
Of voluntary subscription to the campaign
fund as a last RECOURSE The party might
have had an5excieaueT bursting with the
whercwithal Had Bryan winked his eye
only he didn't" and there you are.
The republican party is not hampered by
lack Of funds 1t has. by way Of creden-
tials, the check books Of many multimil-
lionaires. not the least Of whom is Brother
Charlie" But the men who pay the re-
publican partys freight expect and receive
rebates, and it viii continue to be so as
long as the republican party remains
under the direction ofits present oreaniza-
ton.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

memorandum drawn up by the
German colonial office, and attached
to the estimates for the information
Of the members OF the reichstag, con-
tains a statement OF the present con
dition Of the labor question in Samoa.
in which it is stated that the white
population was formerly entirely de-
pendent upon Samoan workmen, while
now the major part Of the work at
most of the plantations is done by
Chinese imported for this labor Each
Chinese laborer receives in wages
1886 a month. The total cost Of each
to the employer the report states, in
cluding wages, maintenance. passage
money. and medical treatment. is cal
culated at from 1898 to s11.9O per
month.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

An instrument has been devised for
making complete tests of street cars
while in operation. 1t consists Of a
table over which a roll Of paper Is fed
slowly, above which are arms carrying
small recording instruments Each of
these instruments is connected with a
clockwork mechanism which causes
it to register on the moving paper be-
low every five seconds. Each instru-
ment registers a special value--such
as the amperes and volts used on
each car motor, or the speed of the
car or its location on the line etc, so
that for every trip of the car over the
road this device furnishes a graphical
record far more accurate than could
be made by any number Of observers.
Unidentified.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

Steel bands or belts, as a substitute
for ordinary leather or rope drives.
have been introduced by factory OF
Charlottenburg, Germany Such belts
may be reduced to about one-sixth Of
the size required for leather belts,
they do not stretch, pulleys may be
narrower, and in some cases shafts
may be smaller. Either ordinary pull
leys or pulleys with special cover
ing to Increase friction may be used.
A belt four inches wide and one-fifth
of an inch thick transmitted 200 to
$50 horsepower at belt speed OF
5.4O0 feet per minute, and tests have
shown that steel belts may run 12,-
900 feet per minute.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

The city or Paris Is being rapidly
supplied with a system OF public
clocks worked by compressed air un-
der electrical control.
The entire area Of the city Is d.
vided into sections about mile and
three-quarters in radius, and in the
center OF each section IS a substa-
tion provided with reservoir Of com
pressed air, from which air pipes ex-
tend TO all the clocks included In the
section.
BY means Of electromagnetic, ener-
gized every minute with currents from
the commutator controlled by the mas
ter clock at the central station, the
air-pipes are intermittently connected
with the reservoirs, and thus the com
pressed air. once every minute, drives
forward the hands Of the clock.
The Vinita daily chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1913, 1908-08-10

A new brand Of topper has been dis
covered in Philadelphia drinks
catsup The Record testifles to the
fact and quotes waiter on the sub
ject. He says: I've known men to
come in here and eat ten-cent grab
and drink nearly half pint Of catsup
between bites. It's bad habit, and
it makes big hole In the profts. It's
much worse than liquor when that
habit gets hold on you. We've got all
the fiends spotted They have saIlow
compilations and are always In bad
humor and eat very slowly. As for
tip, that's out Of the question.