Daily press. [volume] (Newport News, Va.) 1896-current, 1908-12-04
M|INts; s|o[.sItP; QUESTIONS
Government Been on Trail Of Mys-
terious Loan for over A Year-No
Solution Yet-Witness Admits He
Got Best Possible Rates through
Railroad Rebates
(Bv the Associated PresS.)


the part OF the Federal counsel 10 OBJ
tain Information r'srrding n" ans
acgregating go. 0ooco0 TO T. s.
Trainer by the Southern Pipe Line
c; mrany. Standard subs idlAry
came to nothing today in t'le cross
examination Of John ID Ar:hhoin. IN
the government suit TO dissolve me
$ ;-called trust
For ever year Frank b. kellogg,
government inquisitor has pursued
every trail to find out the purpose II
thes" la:ge loans, but he has thus
far been unable to solve the mystery.
Knew Of No Reason.
Mr. Archbcld said that he knew O.
no reason for the loans, which. he
said, might have represented the ad-
jus tments between refining companies.
which Mr.. Trainer supplied with oil.
Mr.. Trainer. who is connected with
the Standards pipe line system. ha5
previously testified that he dill not
know of the loans AMI had never re-
ceived the money.
With.the exception Of a few qurS-
tons to be asked I?ter. the cross
examination of Mr.. Archbold was con
cluded today when An adjournment OF
the case vas taken until next Monday.
Much of MIR. Archbolds cross exam
ination today had to do with rebates
paid by the railroads in the ear'E
days.
The vice-presiJent of the Standard
declared that his company was in no
way favored by the Gil tariff Of the
United States.
Not Prepared to Answer.
Mr.. Archbo1d was questioned al ID,
contract that existed betwcrL 'he
National Traction company md he
Pennsylvania Railroad in 1884 wheit-
by the Pennsylvania was 10 cb'aii -
per cent. o: all crude oil shipped 70
seaboard. Mr.. Kellogg wanted 10
know If it was not fact tina: under
the contract the Standard pail part
of the railroad rate 20 the Pennsyi-
vania on crude oil which the National
Transit carried in its pipe. and which
the Pennsylvania did not carry. Mr..
Archbold said he was net prepared
10 give information regarding the cor
tract. which the witness said, was
obtained in 1893.
But why was the contract cancel
cd"
Because it was thought best 10
put the contract definitely out Of the
way"
Mr.. Archbold said the contract was
undoubtedly lived up TO and that x
was a business and economical pro
position. He did not think similar
contracts were made with other ran
roads.
Side steps Question.
as II not a fact that the railroads
held up the rates which were practi-
caIiy 7rohibitiyc 10 an independent
shipper"
Il am not a railroad man. said
M-. Archboid
Mr.. Kellogg wanted 70 know about
ne n
hot wccn the Acme Company with IN"
Pennsylvania whereby the rates for
oil transportation should be mad" pub
lie.
That was probably put In thor"
for the bcncft Of the public. II din
net amount 10 a hill Of beans. and
sas all fol Dc rol There were no
established tariff rates in those DAYS
We had to bargain for our shipping I
always gC- ihr best rate could"
Mr.. Archbold said h" hoped hc re-
ccivci tho best rate that could b"
obi aimed
Il guess you did" said Mr.. I'll
Iogg
Well. IL wasn't because dill no
try" replied VT. Archbold
Mr. Kellogg further pursued IN"
question Of rebates given ny railroads
and Mr. .Archboid replied that h" GO
'hc host rsfcs no could and nc had
no doubt that whatever railroad
man promised. the chances arc that on
his wsy homo he gave some other
man a lower rate.