The evening world., 1908-12-03

pending didn't Won convey your Jersey
and Maryland lines so no inc could
set across the state Of New Jersey TO
The Srabparh?'
"Whatcver was done. It was done at
advice OF counsel in order to bring us
into fun conformity with the law"
Attacks Trusts Schedule.
AZ the Afternoon session Mr.. KELLOGG
attacked The schedule Of indcpcndcnt
reinciies submitted by Mr. Archbold,
but without much success. The Wit
ness disposed of leading questions by
was correct lie also added that u
his opinion There wore many ndepcr-
dent rcflnerics that had not even been
listed.
DO YOU remember contract be-
tween the National Transit Company
ana the PENNSYLVANIA Road in 1884
whereby the Transit Company agreed
to give the road % percent OF tho
charges collected by it on all crude oil
transported to the seaboard3
Il remember some contracts Two
| think"
Those contracts practically meant
that YOU and Your associates in the Ma
tionai Transfer Company would insure
the Tenns, lvania certain rate on 2s
ine?"
II would SO interpret them"
Didn't the contract also insure that
y
the railroad this ryr cent. OF the bust
ness and al certain price, ana would
give The peunsyNania a certain per-
Il imagine you have correctly quoted
the terms
the National Transit Company really
transported tho oil to the sea itselt
through its own pipes. at 80 cents bar.
rel and gave the PeunsTivania s. cents
per barrel Of the y per cent. without
a 53e II Fs3"sylv"n'a eve, hauling the y',
the legal terms of the contract.
Isn't it a fact that you paid the
Pennsylvania a part OF the rate without
Tie Pennsylvania performing any part
OF the contract Whatsoever
II could not recall from menuiN' 49,
Didn't you personally arrange the
i was brought into communication
with the Pennsylvania In the nineties
while ago, and l do not recall the ae-
tails"
Contracts Expired in 1905.
WHEN were the contracts cancelledF'
"Mr. ". Justice, of the railroad, says
they were not cancelled until lyO!
nut out of the way in 1905, hut it prac-
ticauy went out of effect in 1903.
In the early DAYS the PENNSYLVANIA
carried much oil to the seaboard?"
well. by this contract YOU destroyed
all competition on the part OF the rail-
road"
I'm those days those contracts were
permissible and common NO criticism
was made Of them in morals, or law, OF
SEs3naSs We only did what was re-
-arded as best for the business.
Are not the rates on the railroad Tor
oil practically DrohtbitNe to
Il do not know"
Doesn't the railroad charge four or
five times as much for shipping crude oil
as a pipe line charges"
1T charges more.
Isn't IL practically impossible for an
independent to ship his oil to seaooaro
over the railroad"
II would not say that"
Mr.. Kellogg then took up the matter
Of the Smith Improvement Company:
He declared he never wen into II, and
in fact denounced the prof, It as an out !
rage, on one occasion he made public |
speech at Titusville. He added:
Later I came down to New York and |
Mr.. Watson. of the New York Central, !
told me I ought not tn get excited he |
cause he said II was understood that |
he companies that fought the South I'M |
never did go into it,
In reply to a question he stated that |
ali this occurred several years before |
he was taken into Standard Oil
At 405 Mr.. KelloGg said the crosse
examination was completed for the time
being and the hearing adjourned until
next Monday.