The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-10-12

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OF the upper house. A message regard
Ing the division OF tho dioceses OF the
church into provinces was referred to
committee.
DIR. Parks, OF New York. presented the
report on suffragan bishops. The Rev.
DR.. Eccleston reported for the commit
committee left the whole matter to
the house. Judge Andrews. OF Central
New York. discussed the question at
length, relating the history OF pro-
posed court OF appeal. and pointing
out the difficulties.
Invitation Received.
The st. Louis delegation invited the
convention to hold the next General
Convention in st. Louis. Invitations
were read from the Hampton Negro
School and the Lawrenccville Negro
School to visit the schools on Monday.
October 2lst.
The president announced the follow
Ing members to serve on the joint COM
mittee to REVISE the leetionery and re-
port to the next General Convention:
The Rev. Dr. Peabody. OF Massachu-
sets: the Rev. DR.. Larrabee, Chicago;
the Rev. DR.. Harding. Washington.
Mr.. Llwyd. Olympia: tho Rev. DIR. Perry,
Mississippi: Mr.. Pepper. OF Pennsyl-
vania; Mr.. Morris, of Duluth; Mr.. Stur-
gls. Colorado: Mr.. Mcconnell, Louisiana;
Mr.. Clements, Harrisburg.
The house then adjourned for lunch
con.
Afternoon Session.
The house reconvened ut 3 o'clock
Mr.. Packard. OF Maryland moved that
on and after Monday. October l4th, the
house shall hold evening SESSIONS be-
ginning at o'clock. The motion was
carried
Mr. Gilbert. OF Springfield. novel
the adoption OF canon regarding the
formation OF n court Of appeal. which
shall consist OF all the bishops OF the
church. He said tho commonest crir,i-
nal had the right OF appeal, but the
priests of the church were denied that
right.
Rev. Mr. Murdoch offered as an
six years. so that 1t could be abolished
If 1t was found To be Unsatisfactory.
The amendment was lost.
Rev. DIR. Parks. of New York, spoke
in favor of forming the court.
Rev. DR.. Grammer. OF Pennsylvania,
opposed the formation OF court OF
appeals composed entirely of bishops.
He claimed that priest should be tried
by his own order. Speaking OF the
bishops. he said:
.As body they nre not thcologinns.
and they would not he efficient II thc3.
were thcologiuns. They nre not in
touch with the Theological questions of
the dny."
DR.. Gramrner said that the missionary
bishops were selected for tao. and
energy. and not on account Of theol-
ogy. He urged the selection OF clergy
and laity on the proposed court. but
said the best thing to do was to leave
the whole question alone.
slnrrIng to Bishops.
Rev. Mr.. Parsons. of California. spoke
in opposition to the idea OF having all
bishops on the proposed court.
Rev. DR.. Groton. OF Pennsylvania,
criticized Dr. Grammer's remarks, al
luding to them as .'of nature slur-
ring to Bishops" DR.. Groton spoke In
absolute rebuttal OF the statements
made by DIR. Grammer. who is his fell
low delegate. He concluded his re-
marks by saying that 1t was the Pres
byterian idea that scholar could never
be a practical man.
Mr.. Lewis. OF Pennsylvania. gave
some reason why the House OF
Bishops should not sit as court. He
said that 100 men sitting as court
was something unknown. except the
United States Senate. Another thing,
he said. was the fearful expense. 1t
would cost about $4,000 to get the
court together. RE urged that the
court was not necessary.
Rev. DR.. Cathe.l, OF Iowa. spoke
against a court composed entirely OF
bishops, following closely the argu-
ment used by DR.. Grammer
Rev. DR.. De Rosset. Of Springfield,
proved to be strong bishop man. say
ing that church history teaches that
the bishops are the court OF last re-
sort.
Rev. Dr.. Mann, of Massachusetts.
spoke in support of the remarks made
by Mr., Lewis, of Pennsylvania
mine whether or not the house ia
vored the formation OF court of ap-
peal, with the court to be- composed
OF the House of Bishops.
The vote was taken by dioceses, as
follows:
Clergy. Laity.
For the measure 1890. IS 90
Against the measure 90 80
Divided clergy, q laity, 4.
The resolution was lost BY non.
concurrence. Rev.aEDr. Rodgers asked
finished business to the next General
Convention. The motion was car
ried.
On motion OF Mr.. Saunders OF South
ern Virginia, the house adjourned IN
til Monday morning at o'clock. in
order that the members of the con.
vention might take the trip to James
town Island to-day.
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