Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-07-10

\ lJlu ne come into Your OFFICE De~
cember, 1903, and tell you he had
blown UP the Vindicator mine. and did
| YOU pat him on the back and tell him
| ne had done good Job and give him
SsD0?"
No, SIR" replied Meyer positively
II never saw the man until January,
| 1904"
Did you have such a conversation
with him at any time or placer
| II did not"
Meyer said he was in Joplin. Mo. at
the time OF the Vlndicator mine explo-
sion and first read OF il In the Kansas
| City papers. The witness went TO
! Cripple Creek in February. 1904. to at
tend the trials of the members of the
| federation who were charged with at
| tempting to wreck a train ON the Flor
ence &C Cripple Creek railroad He saw
Orchard there many times at the trial
and at miners headquarters. Orchard
| seemed anxious to do whatever he could
To help in preparing the case and did
| a good deal
| Did you ever meet Harry orchard
| in Victor and give him 500 for his good
| work ut the Nindicator miner"
| mo. sir"
Did you ever give him s1OO at any
| time or place.
NEVER GAVE ORCHARD MONEY.
''to the best of my recollection" re-
| piled Meyer deliberately. II never gave
| Orchard any money for any crime or
| for any other PURPOSE"
| Well did you ever give any money
! for any crime ?"
"or know of his getting any money
| from the organization for any crime or
| any criminal act?"
| mo, SIR
Did you say In the train wrecking
| case that you wanted no mention
made OF 'Pettibone dope?'"
Il had never heard OF such a thing
at that time
The next time the witness saw Or
| chard was In 1904.
ORCHARD in MOVERS OFFICE.
NE camo 10 my office In Denver
along with three or four other men
who said they had decided to pull out
or cripple Creek and wanted to know
good place to locate. We discussed
severa different places. Orchard said
| he believed he would go to Silverton,
colo. ! told him / was making prepar-
ations 10 go down to Ouray myself and
| that II he was y no hutfy ] would
| be glad to have him wait and go with
me. told him several labor men had
been beaten mp down there and would
Ike TO have him with me as protec-
ton, He said q day or two made no
! difference 10 him. He waited and went
with me
Was anything said about arms"
MOVER BOUGHT GUNS.
VI asked him II he had pistol and
he said yes. [ said / thought of carry
ing talSe-down shotgun which could
| be placed in a suitcase. Orchard said
he also had a suitcase and told him
would also buy him a gun. l got Mr..
Pettibone to buy the guns for US.
had known him since 1900. He wac
always a great friend Of the miners and
being In trade could get n liberal dis
count on anything he bought. He was
committee when there were conven-
tons in Denver"
Was your shotgun used to kill Lyle
Gregory
No. SIR
Has 1t ever been fired?"
No, sir. j left 1t in Denver at the
time of my arrest with the remainder
et my goods"
PAID ORCHARDS HOTEL Elk
PENSES-
Meyer said he and Orchard went to
ouray March 90. Orchard paid his
own railroad fare, but Meyer paid the
hotel expenses at Ouray. The witness
went to look out for the welfare of 60
union miners who had been &eported
from Telluride. Two days after his
arrival Meyer was arrested at the re-
quest of the sheriff of San Miguel coun-
ty in which Telluride is located.
The luncheon recess until 80 p. m.
was taken at this point.