Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-01-16

whom warrants were issued, and Mr..
Spooner said an answer would not IL
Illuminate the subject
Again Mr.. Tillman sought recogni-
ton, but Mr.. SDooner first undertook
to learn the length of'the question he
purposed to ask.
"I'll make my question like bull
let, said Mr.. Tillman.
And shoot it very slowly" said
Mr.. S2ooner.
The question at last admitted was az
to why the president had not adopted
Major Penrose's recommendation for
the ferreting out of the guilty.
The president will never require
any defense from the attacks OF the
senator from South Carolina" was
Mr.. Spooners reply. "He has devei-
oped a mania for attacking the presi--
dent. | have never been so surprised
by any mans attitude as | nave pV
that of the senator from South Car
olina. He is so filed with animosity
for the president that ! do not belleVe
his attacks will be taken seriously
Mr. Tillman attempted a reply, but
Mr.. Spooner declined to yield: he
criticised Mr.. Tillman for the harsh
words he had hurled at the president
in untempered speeches. He con-
demned Mr. Cleveland for impugning
the motive of the president and ridi-
culed Mr.. Tillman's claim that ne
stood for the fundamental princlpie oi
liberty. Quote me accurately
shouted Mr.. Tillman.
You quote yourself" replied Mr.
Spooner.
Mr. Ti!lman then said that he had
declared that it was the Fundamental
principle of English and American liD-
efty that every man is innocent until
he mas been proved guilty
Mr. Soooner said that was the cor
rect principle. and that the Soutn
Carolina senator, contrary TO that
principle, had begun his speech on
the race question by convicting the
whole black race, He scored Mr.. Tlil-
man for the sentiment before uttered
that 1--WE shot EN-; we killed EN-,
and vii! do it again"
MAY | get in?" asked Mr.. Tillman.
why do YOU want to get in r.
well, / should like to know how
much provocation you are going 70
give a man without giving him
chance to strike back a little.
well. get in then. / will yield for
question" said Mr. SDooner.
rs that ALP"
THAT is all 2"
The South CarolinaH took his seat
and then was subjected to one of the
most direct and singing indictments
ever delivered by senator against
colleague. Mr.. Spooner quoted from
Mr.. TiI1man's utterances defending the
burning of negroes at the stake, ana
said
mo man ought to encourage such
horrible thing as that. 1t Is CRIME
against civilization to encourage 1t.
He said ne looked with admiration
on the efforts Of southern governors
- nls 70 lives of
groes without giving them trials,
III have often been shocked he
said, sbv the attitude of the senator
from South Carolina, when he has
spoken here in Justification and sup
port of lynching. If there is one man
who ought not to encourage IL. II y
the man who sits here as the maker OF
laws"
And | want to say here" he con-
tinued. that any man who eneour-
ages lynehing, murder and lawlessness
will have much to answer for. and the
higher his position and the mightiee
his influence. the more he VIII nave 70
answer for. No man can come here
with gooG grace to impeach the pfesi-
dent for his disnissa! of men because
they were not identified as criminals,
who comes here from lynching nee,
or who justifies one
After declaring there should
not be one law for the coiored man,
and another for the white man, MI.
Sponer again deprecated the fact tnal
he had been drawn from the main SUD-
iect. Mr.. Spooner continued his speech
with a brief discussion of the race
question, He declared his belief that
the majority of the people or the
south did not entertain the fadicdi
views expressed by Mr.. Tillman. He
admitted the difficulties and hardsnlps
of the problem In the south and saiu
the people of the north felt the best
way to aid in its solution was TO re-
frain from discussing it. He did not
believe Mr.. Tillman's agitation couid
ouiet the situation. Mr.. Spooner
auoted a newspaper report OF one or
Senator Tillman's lectures IN Whlcn
he referred to negroes as baDoohs,
and said when asked how ABOUT the
law" replied: ITO hell Win such
laws"
Mr.. Spooner said he knew of no
better way to perpetuate the struggle
between the two races than to be con-
stantlv and violently declaring such
trouble to be imminent ana unaVoiu-
able. s NJ
When Mr.. Spooner concluded, Mr.
Tillman remarked that ne mao eA-
pected to have had rev Wo!us ~
saw ia the senator from Wisconsin, IN
view of the direct personal attack ne
has made on me this afternoon. But
the latter part of his speech mas Wid-
ened the scope sof the reply i WISH
| to make and therefore | VIII take oc-
casion in the near future TO nave
something to say on tins question anu
| in answer TO some OF the lnsui'iiiS al
! lusions he has made. 80, :.
Senator Carmack indicated ms ln :
tention to discuss the BrownsViiie az
| fray tomorrow. -, 10
The bitter feeling provoked py 10
DAYS controversy between SeIdtoIs
Spooner and Tillman makes IL I'M pos
I sible to say when vote can Dg hau oii
tbe Rrownsville resolution. 1t Is eX-
! nected the debate vii lbe extended.
HEPBURN HAS OPINIONS