The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-02-07

Yesterday by Mr. Gleason.
II vas said Mr.. Delmas had deliv-
orad An uItimatum that he would with
draw from the case unless given Il
free hand i'm conducting the fight for
Thaw's life. The results of yester-
days proceedings were anything but
satisfying TO all concerned I'm the
case.
Mr.. Jerome replied to Mr.. Delmas
that the matter of allowing the wit
moss BOman. 10 state a conversation
with the defendant was pending yes
terday and should be finally decided
before bringing in further examina-
ton.
Mr. Delmas said he would withdraw
the question asked the witness. which
caused the objection TO be entered.
This was agreed to-
Mr.. jerome said he would withdraw
his objection 10 the introduction Of
evidence tending 10 show insanity III
collateral branches Of the Thaw fam
iiv. provided certain questions asked
me witnesses of yesterday were With
drawn.
we withdraw the questions" said
Mr.. Delmas. land will go over the
matter again.
Defense on a New Tack.
Mr.. Delmas directed that Benjamin
Roman. whose testimony had been ex-
cluded yesterday, be recalled.
Boman said that in 1903 he was a
Idoorkeeper at the Garden theatre.
Did YOU know Stanford White and
Harry Thaw?"
Yes"
"Did YOU hear White make threats
against the life Of any person.
Mr. Jerome objected saying he was
not assured the defense was to be one
Of self-defense-
tense the law allowed was 10 be taken
advantage Of
Mr. Jerome withdrew his objection.
A few nights after Christmas" the
witness resumed. Stanford White
came up to me after the show and
wanted to know If Miss Nesbit had
gone home I told him she had. Re re-
Piled: You are a - liar. i told him
10 go back upon the stage and see for
himself When he returned. and as
ne passed me. he pulled pistol from
his pocket and muttered: III find and
Kill that - before day
light
The witness stated the vile name he
said White had applied to the man
whose life ne had threatened in loud
voice
Did you communicate this threat to
any one?" asked Mr.. Delmas.
Yes I told a detective sergeant"
'I object to that said Mr.. Jerome.
Did you communicate the threat to
this defendant" asked Mr. Delmas.
Thsw Told Of the Threat.
Yes. I met him On Fifth avenue and
told him ] wanted 10 speak with him
regarding Miss Nesbit. I told him Of
the incident at the theatre and Of
Whites threat
What was Mr. Whites condition
when ne made the threat"
He was black in the face with an
ger"
What was Mr. Whites manner"
He was very angry
You may take the witness" re-
marked Thaw's counsel to the district
attorney.
At the conclusion Of Boman's direct
examination Justice Fitzgerald said:
III there are any persons i'm the
court room whose sense of propriety
would De offended BY the testimony of
this witness. the court will give them
an opportunity 10 now withdraw"
We must ask the court TO bear with
us i'm bringing out this testimony" ex-
planned Mr.. Delmas, but IL is essen
tial."
1T is perfectly right and proper"
said the justice. There are ladies
here. however. and / think they should
be given an opportunity to withdraw
II they so desire"
The Countess OF Yarmouth and Mrs
Carnegie quickly left the room.
Cross Examination.
District Attorney Jerome took the
witness and for the better part OF an
hour questioned him closely as 10 his
employment and places OF residence for
The last FIVE years, attempting To Sc
cure house numbers and other de-
tails. The witness said he was a door
Keeper az the Madison Square Roof
Garden theatre from 1902 to February.
1904. after which he worked in New
Haven and Long Island City.
Before 1902 he had been employed as
brass worker
Inaw's sisters evidently became re-
assured during the long and tedious ex-
tnlnation. for after George Carnegie
mad gone to them and explained the
Character OF the testimony they re-
turned TO their places.
marry Thaw, who had shown inter-
during the testimony as TO the
Ndiu 70 nave been made
ss.snst MIN by Stanford White. seemed
-"reued and yawned several times.
IONA, boman said he went TO Long Island
N"y IN the spring of 1905.
Repeated His Story.
SeIerring to his statement that he
s Eau t9id Thaw Of Whites threat he re-
ptaSed the story.
,,oI 10 whom did you first tell the
.. TO Detective Sergeant Herlihy."
10 whom next2"
To Mr.. Thaw."
.,I noinan said he did not tell any one
80 he said the incident occurred on
n'Stnas evening. 1903.
, are you sure Of that?" asked Je-
ITO 10 the best Of my recollection"
n,. ne witness said the Cir from
,trNo was playing az the theatre at the
81 e and that Evelyn Nesbit was i'm
nis me east She left the theatre that
NJ ute after II O'Clock.
,ar NJ, Jerome then took the witness
,, seaqiy over every detail OF his con-
Theron etrs with Mr.. .whites at the
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