Evening journal., 1907-02-19

conversation with Mr.. Thaw about what
efforts he had made to bring Stanford
White to justice for what he had done
to your
"oh. yes. we talked frequently about It..
Early in 1906 he showed me paper which
he said he intended TO send TO some So
olety' Crhe comstock Society for the sup
preston of vloe)"
What success did he haveT"
He didn't have much success and I
told him he would not, because Stanford
White was q very influential man and
would be able to prevent any action
against HIN, / told him many peop'e would
not believe II anyway"
In your conversation was there any
mention Of any other girls who had suf-
fered at the hands OF WhiteT
'Yes. sir"
Delmas sought the codicil to Thaws win
but in Mr.. Gleasons absence It was not
in court, and Delmas had TO borrow Jer-
ome's copy which caused a smile at tile
expense Of the defense.
"Pie Girl" Story Retold
At this stage Of the proceedings was in
terplated the now famous story Of the
pie girl" by which the defense expects
to show not only Whites debased mental
condition. but cold -bloodedness and heart
lessness toward his victims The story was
first related to Evelyn in her dressing
room one night by White himself and was
introduced in evidence to-day IS part Of
the story Evelyn tsid her husband in
Pants one night in 1903 on which he pro-
posed
a girl at the theatre had told me the
story" said Evelyn. "and when came
10 my dressing room that night / asked
White about H.
HE seemed exceedingly proud and de-
clared It was the best stunt he ever did
at supper. You see he tod me, this
girl was very young, just fifteen. had a
big pie made ana got some live birds
which were put into the ipe with the
girl"
At the right moment II was brought
in and put on the table. The cover was
broken and the girl stood up, as the birds
flew out Tapping their wings.
She had on little gauze dress-thats
all. II was great-the very best stunt ]
ever did at dinner. But came near get
ting into trouble about It. We put gold
pieces In the girls shoes and in her dress
and al OF Of people heard Of It. All the
newspapers got hold OF il. 1 stopped Il
at all Of the papers but one. got friend
10 go to see them, though, and we finally
got them 70 stop ~, too. We kept It oul
OF the papers, but II was close.
II told him / had heard he ruined tn,
girl that night, but he only laughed"
4 The name of the pie girl" was susi,
johnson. and it is said shed led later in
poverty. II did not come out in the testl-
mony.
The names Of the other girls known by
| Evelyn to have been misused by White
we're whispered to Jerome, but were no
ADMITTED IN evidence.
/ The next occasion the "pie-girl" was
discussed, Evelyn said. was at dinner
at the ST. Regis. where Harry Thaw
herself and a third man we're present
The conversation, however, only re-
lated to the unnamed man telling of
Stanford White and one Of his compan-
ions going down on their knees to some
New York editor to beg him to suppress
the story OF the dinner.
"Pie- Girls" Sad End
Another time Thaw told Evelyn he
had found out what became Of the girl
lwho figured in the pie dinner"
"He told me-" said Evelyn, that he
found out this woman had died in pOv-
erty and In want-that her husband
had cast her out after learning Of ths
night OF the pie dinner and she hae
died miserably and been buried in the
Potter's Field"
did you have many conversation;
with your husband on this subject?"
yes. we talked OF It many times
He said that the only place for stan
ford White was In the penitentiary
He knew OF cases. he said, where girls
OF good families had suffered a
whites hands. Worst OF Il all wal
that when he tired OF them White cas-
them off and they sank lower and lowel
and in some cases became women o
the town. He said some one ought 4
tell on White. / would say TO him
l'What can ] do? can't tell about my
self: I can't make scandal like that
when he talked about the subject
usually cried, and so I tried to keep hi
mind off the subject"
Wanted Studio Raided
Delmas then read TO the jury pape
prepared by Thaw ana shown to Eve
iyn in March, 1906, when he said h
INTENDED to send it to Anthony Com
stocks Society. It set forth that illici
land obscene matter could be found II
: three of whites so-called studios. I
J said IL probably would be impossible e
raid the tower studio at the Madison
Square Garden, though much could b.
found in IT,
The second place named was at Nc
22 West Twenty-fourth street kept 80
, orgies and debauchlng OF young girls.
The paper gave a careful description o
the building with drawing OF plan
The famous forest ROOM" furnishes
like a forest, was described.
.'Workmen have heard the scream
Of young girls coming from this room.