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The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
ANNUAL CONVENTION
OF Canton Township Sunday School
Association Most Successful
Ever Held.

The annual convention OF the Canton
Township Sunday School association
held at North Industry was one of the
best in its history.
A large congregation assembled for
the afternoon session. The audience
was delighted with the address of Rev.
Evans which was entertaining, inspir.
ing and instructive. The Round Table
conducted by Homer J. Miller was
very much appreciated. Reports from
the schools were very encouraging.
At the evening session the church
was packed with attentive listeners
who were thrilled and enthused by the
addresses of Revs Fair and Zinn.
Heart to Heart Talks with Teachers"
by Homer j. Miller was excellent.
The following officers for the year
were elected President, ID. w. Stahl:
vice president, Harry Bair; secretary,
Ida Clugson; treasurer Emma Neis1
William Nelsz, Flora Lehmiller. Mag.
gle Taylor. executive committee.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT
TO ATTEMPT SETTLEMENT
Striking TeIegraphers Say Their Representatives
aa Conferred With Executive Who Will Get
.s@ Companies Side Of Story.

ceived from President Roosevelt or
Secretary Loeb by the Western Union
or Postal officials today.
Russell when asked about the re-
port from Chicago in which National
President Small is quoted as saying
that President Roosevelt would in
tervene. said: II have no knowledge
of President Roosevelt's attitude In
the matter, and no way of knowing
whether he will take any action
don't know where Mr.. Small got his
information from and until the con-
trary can be positively shown, | pre-
fer to believe that he was not corr
rectly quoted"
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
PUTS THE "elNoER' IN
The Kind OF Food Used by Athletes

former college athlete, one OF
the long distance runners, began to
lose his power of endurance. His ex.
perience with a change in food is I'm.
teresting
While | was In training on the track
athletic team, my daily jogs' became
a task. until after | was put on Grape.
Nuts food for two meals day. After
using the Food for two weeks I felt
like a new man. My digestion was
perfect, nerves steady and was full
OF energy.
Il trained for the mile and the half
mile runs Chose events which require
so much endIrance) and then the long
daily jogs, which before had been
such task, were clipped of with ease.
won both events.
"The Grape.Nuts food put me In
perfect condition and gave me my
ginger Not only was my physical
condition made perfect, and my weight
increased, but my mind was made
clear and vigorous so that could get
out my studies In about half the time
formerly required. Now most all OF
the University men use Grape-Nuts
for they have learned its value, but
| think my testimony will not be amiss
and may perhaps help some one to
learn how the best results can be OBJ
tanned"
There's n reason for the effect Of
Grape-Nuts food on the human body
and brain. The certain elements In
wheat ana barley are selected with
special reference to their power for
rebuilding the brain and nerve cen.
tres. The product Is then carefully
aud scientifically prepared so as 10
make II easy of digestion. The physi.
,al and mental results are so apparent
after two or three weeks use as TO
produce a profound impression. Read
The Road to Wellvllle." in plgs.
There's reason"
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

New York Sept 23.-Notwith-
standing the repeated denials of Dan
iel H.. Russell and Percy Thomas, of
the telegraphers, that they had been
IN Oyster Bay last week to see Presi-
dent Roosevelt with a view to ending
the, strike of the telegraphers, tue
visit of the two to President Roose-
welt. was the principal subject of con-
versatiou among the telegraphers to-
day. 1t was learend today that It
was agreed that Secretary Loeb, Rus
sell and Thomas were to keep the
fact of the conference a secret until
the President obtained the side OF the
companies. No word has been re-
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

Henry J. stamm ct ux. to Canton
Cemetery Association, tilOO on lot 592S
Canton.
George Hoitsman ct ux. TO Alliance
Bank Co, $1,000 on part of lot 5i2 ALI
ance
Esynk Happoldt 20 Massiilon Loan &
Building Co.. 500 on lot 2SO7, Massil-
lon.
Geiger Brothers to Massillon Loan &
Building Co, $500 on lot 1878. Alliance.
Kate II. Stroup ct al. TO Canton Saw
lngs 8; Loan Co., $500 on part OF lot
1859, Canton
Frederick Schwltzgebel ct ux 10 First
Worldngmen's Building & Loan Assocl-
alton Of Canton, $500 on lot 1868. Can
ton.
Frederick J.. Kcltcl ct ux. 70 Emma
keitel, $500 on 3 IL acres In Canton
township.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
ELECTIONS BOARD
Appoints Registrars for City and viii
Name Judges and Clerks in
Near Future.

Announcement was made yesterday
by the board Of deputy state supervi'
sors of elections of the appointment of
Democratic and Republican registrars
for the city of Canton. Clerk Shauf
will qualify the appolntees of the board
on Wednesday from to 8 p. m.
It Is stated that the election board
will within the next two weeks make
appointments of election judges and
clerks. Four days will be set aside
for registration, October 3, 10, Is and
10.
The registrars appointed are as fol-
lows:
DEMOCRATIC REGISTRARS.
First Ward-A. Milton Shaffer; B,
RichaFd I.orenz; c, Fred l.. Whitmer;
ID, George Wolf; L, A. J. Campbell; (;
f Joseph Rebilot; G, Noah Ernst;
II Michael Barr; |. Harry Bslden; K,
]. y. Zettler.
Second Wari-A, Henry Schaub;
p Fred Talbot: G, Charles Pfendler;
y. Jackson Green; r Fred Ranner;
f W. A. Cummlns; G. Ed Lothamer
Third Ward--A. W H. Stroller; b.
Charles Double; c. Gust Weber
Fourth ward-A. Walter Graf; y,
Louis Bender; c, Joseph Munter, Sr.;
n J, NJ, Muhs.
Fifth Warl---A George Orsinger; B,
Thomas Dagger; c. Charles ThoglNy: d.,
Oscar BaeChle, Z. Amos Fste.
Sixth Wari-A, Charles Bourgeois;
3. jacob Nicodpmus; c, Charles Mul.
hly: D John Stein; T., John Eicher;
+ John ZDkolosH, G. Ed. Dumont;
II, Charles Sna".
REPUBLICAN REGISTRARS.
First Ward-A. Joseph DumOulin;
b. D. II. Wilson; c, A, II. Coe; d,
Frank Sharor; L, James A Bowman;
+. J. J. Yuzey: G., n. l.. SchOtt: II
Percy WaathcFIll; /, H. W. Rose; X,
John l. Hursh
Second Ward--A. Honor Crowl; B, |
]. W. Smith: c, n. g. Talbert; d, New.
ton b. D1rncr; r Charles Neithercoat;
+. wallace Webb; C. Orlando Rank.
Third Warl--A. Paul BOnslty; y,
RAY saeger; G, Charles SIlyerman
Fourth Ward-A. Elmer Dewecsc;
p, Fred Ketter.ns; c, oliver Eschtl'
man; d, r. r Bauhof,
Flth WarI-A. Theodore Ballard;
II. Clltf Klingaman; G. Charles
schnake; d, George Rcx; L, John
Thorley
Sixth Ward--A. Benjamin WuningS;
B. c. +. Davidson; c, Charles Brown.
well: D, T. II .Belden; c. c. W, Cox;
r, l.. II. McCreery; c., Paul Rutledse;
II, Charles Ball
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
wharf now, but we hope to have more
when the appropriations are available"
Denies story Of ooebel Shooting.

New York, Sept. 23.-Captain Cas-.
slus Marshall Sanford, only son of the
late John Sanford, of Covington, KY.
was referred to the AFFIDAVIT OF Mrs..
Luta Clark as John Sanford" and as
having been present In the state house
at Frankfort. KY. when Governor Goe.
bel of Kentucky, was killed today Is
sued denial of Mrs. Clark's state
ments. through his attorney, Charles
II. Strong, of this city.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
con.srxatory Of Muale.

Prof Charles z. Davis, Director OF
the Conservatory OF Music, Mt. Union
College, will establish branch OF the
Conservatory in Canton this coming
year. beginning September 2sth. Prof.
Davis win spend Saturday OF each
week In Canton. Send for cata.
logus, giving rates and course OF
study. Also souvenir Program and
Booklet. Possibilities of the Average
Voice" all free. Address Director
Conservatory Of Music, Mt. Union Col.
lege, Alliance, Ohio.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
British Squadron at Old Stand.

Montreal. Sept. 22-+The Star tonight
publishes this special from Vancouver:
"The British navy probably will oc.
cnpy Esquimault naval station again
in the near future according to private
adyices from British naval officer
prominent in the service. II Is stated
that following the coming Of the Uni
ted States feet to the Pacific the ad.
mIralty will dispatch cruiser squad.
ron 10 Esquimault"
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

Four Hungariaus We're arrested last
night by Officers Rifle and Deidrick
charged with being drunk and disor-
dsrly. Their names are Dan Davis,
John Rapp, Pete Anthony and Nick
Barbet. The gang was having row
at 1924 Bucher street and Davis shot
at one of the gang but no damage was
done. His revolver, taken from him
at police station, contained four load
ed cartridges aud one empty one.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
IN POLICE COURT

Yesterday morning Michael schnei
der and Michael Ehrman filed an am
davit against John Fecht charging him
with attempted criminal assault on the
eIght-year-old daughter Of Enrman,
Sunday night Fecht had been arrest
ed Sunday night and gas locked up
at headquarters. In retaliation he had
Schneider arrested on the charge OF
keeping his saloon open on last sun
day. Fccht Is a foreigner and denies
the charge and says tina, IL Is pure
spite work There has been 4 great
deal OF trouble In the neishhorhood
where Schneider and Ehrman live, on
Harrison avenue and Bridge street.
Fecht will be given hearing in a few
days.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
More ceIestlaIs for Canada.

Ottawa, Ont, Sept. 23.-Dominion
Controller Of Chinese immigration Par.
malice was notified today that the
steamship Empress OF India, with 500
Chinese aboard. has reached Vancou.
YER or these 100 paid the $500 per
head capltation tax. and the balance
were either celestials returning to Can.
ada or In transit to United States
points.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
THEY ARE HERE.

National Decorating Company, 20i
West Fifth street New flags and
decorations. Estimates given on
buildings. dwellings aud store fronts.
Leave orders now for the dedication
OF thg Mckinley memorial monument
Call and see our goods for your own
National Decorating Co.,
Rep. J. r. Fuhrman.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
IN THE COURTS
COMMON PLEAS COURT.
NJ INALL - A q IL = Z

1s536--James Corbett ct ux. VS.. Fine
frook Bros. Appeal ii. V. Briggle and
II. j. Collins, attorneys.
1S5sS-Clarence C. Crooks vsECharles ].
Crooks ct al. Partition proceeding. ].
A. Jeffers, attorneys.
1S5S7-Mlke Miller VS.. Anna Vietmeyer.
Judgment on cognovit note for $500. w.
o. Werntz, attorney.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
JOURNAL, ENTRIES.
stephen
Murray

Szvitanko. Order appointing Murray
Beard receiver.
1Si3G-In re application TO sell real
estate Of Evangelical Lutheran church
OF Magnolia. order entered granting
permission to sell property for not less
than $780,
lS376-Andrcw A. Ross VS.. The w. &
H. E. H. X. Co. Leave to answer by
October II, 1905 granted defendant.
lSlI5-City National Bank VS. w IT,
Craig ct al. Judgment entered against
defendants for S6l17i
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
DsIsysd Cremation Of Friend.

New York. Sept. 23.--some porson,
supposed TO be a woman. today delay
cd. II not prevented altogether. the
cremation OF the body of Mrs Msrguer-
ite'cafter. who on Friday last com:sit.
ted suicide ia tie home OF Juhn ;ay
Whsto. resIfsi broker. at 30. i5s
Fast s7th street.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

In estate Of Edwin h. Glnther. inven-
tory and appraisement filed.
IN estate of c. o Maus final account
hlcd.
In guardianship Of Albert j. Maus ct
al, final account filed
In estate of Joseph Rocxhill, Lexington
township. petition TO sell real estate and
Inventory and appraisement filed
In estate OF Jacob Zintsmaster, final
account filed.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

In estate OF John l.. Yost, Canton,
Minnie l.. Yost appointed administra-
triN
WIN OF william II. Crooks. Perry
township probated
In estate Of Margaret Friend. final ac-
count filed
In estate OF Charles J. slagle, Canton
inventory tled.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
ROOM NO. q

r. s. Amber. Judge.
l69lS-Evans' Admr. vs. Masslllon Coal
Mining co. Damage case asking for
10000 damages on trial. AXE & Day
and Welty Il Albaugh attorneys.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
MARRIAGE LICENSEES.

John Costello. fagman. a. and Irar-
riett Scott, 40. Massilon.
Charles j. Nelson. machinist a. and
Eva NJ. Ffomholtz, 90 Masslllon.
Henry +. Green. Iron worker, q, and
Irene Kestl, 10. Canton.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

1S7l-Leo w. Cochran VS.. Elizabeth
Reese. Answer filed. w. NJ Roach, at
torney.
1S22i--Union Trust Co VS.. Thurlow X
Albaugh ct al. Amended answer filed.
Cralne & snyder attorneys.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

II II Is not In the news It "a not
worth reading.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

1ailey's osneinu School, Bsst Hall
0pens Thurs, Sept. 90 Beginners 7. 80
- S'so p ns.. assembly $3.50 70 Il D. v.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

ROOM NO. 1.
u w Harter. Judge.
Hearing of motions.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
RECORDERS OFFICE.
REAL ESTATE TRANSFERS.

w. II. Sproat ct ux. to Laura
Sproat lot II In village Of Paris, $500
Board OF Trade OF Alliance, to G. w.
Taylor ct al. lot 3l7g. Alliance, $3.50.
Taylor Land & Improvement Co., TO
Toncy Smith, sub-lots 1853 and ii3. Nc
Culough addition, $500.
Nettic Reed ct al 20 Edward ID. Lang,
lot 1868, canton. 5000.
Charles a. Kolp to Jacob -. Hermann,
lots and In, Kolp's addition In Plain
township. $3.50.
John W. Roll ct ux TO Augustus II.
G,nser. part OF lot iOJ1 Canton, sl5I5.
acre In Osnaburg township. 5000.
Theresa NJ. Stutz to Austin A. Hay,
lot S3 Beach City, sll0O.
Louisa a. Shepard ct al. 10 Joseph NJ.
Blake, pat OF lot 1881 Canton. and ~
lots In LoTisa Millcr's addition TO city
Of Canton. $1,000.
Nettie Pspr ct ai.s 10 Frederick
Schwltzgebel lot 1868, Canton, $500.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24
nEAI. rsTNTp MORTGAoEs

Harold q. CASTOR ct uN. 10 Industrial
Building & Loan Association OF, Ali
ance 800 on lots 3S2. Alliance.
Edward Virgins To Masslllon Loan e.
Building CO.. sl2d on part Of out lot 81,
MAssillon
Frank q. Boerner 10 Massillon Loan
& Building Co, Si75, on lot 202s. Mas
sillon,
Harrison Baldwin ct ux to Masslllon
Loan & Bul,sing Co., 800 on lot / In
Perry township
Augustus D. Gonser ct ux. TO Emma
e. Hazlett. Si75 ON lots io5O and 1881.
Canton
George NJ Rickard ct ux. 10 Alliance
Bank Co., 1896 on part OF lot 5i2. All
ance.
w c. Miller CT ux. to L. stroup. S375
on lot s262. Alliance
william ]. Dierlnger et uK. to V. May,
$3.50 on lot 30 IN Magnolia
Eva Whitmer ct Al to Canton Gene
terry Association. 500 on part OF lots
736 and 757, Canton.
The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-09-24

Splendid for Suits, Skirts and
Waists; 25 pieces strictly all wool
Serges worth $50 yard will be shown
this week at soc. You will not be able
to duplicate these bargains this season.
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1907-12-06
9,res- 32r4n1bra, arstau,n,r 5upoa gerrn,hrr 1907

found there. To constitute change
of domicile, three things are essential
first, residence in another place;
second an intention to abandon the
old domicile; and third, the intention
of acquiring a new one
LIABILITY OF ESTATE.
In Mccullough V. McGrady, 1902 New
New York supreme court, the majori-
ty of the court held that claim for
wine. food, cigars, liquors, etc, used
in the celebration of wake was Il
proper charge against decedents es-
tate. The majority depended on the
case of McCue v. Garvey, IA Hun. 562.
in which it was considered the rule
had been recognized, but the, dissent
ing opinion insisted that the cited
case was not in point, and repudiated
the claim as Illegal.
RIGHT OF MUNICIPAL OFFICER
Peoples Saving Bank VS.. Big Rock
Stone & Construction Co. 80 South
western Reporter, S36, takes the posi-
ton that bank of which the mayor
of city is a stakeholder and president
cannot collect on an assigned claim for
city, where the work was not approved
when the assignment to the bank was
made, and the officers of the city are
by statute prohibited from being in
terested in contracts with the city,
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1907-12-06
A DIVIDED RESPONSIBILITY.

Ninety Davenport saloonkeepers
have formulated set of rules super
ceding' the mulct law and the mayor
of that city has very kindly pro-
claimed them at their request. The
new rules. are long step toward de-
cency compared with the saloon an
archy that has existed. They include
II o'clock closing, closing on election
days. elimination of free lunch, no
back room with closed doors to be
operated in connection with the sa-
loon. no harboripg of women, no cur
| tains, no sales to minors or intoxi-
Gated persons, and no liquor to be sold
day.
| 1t is to be inferred from the speci-
that most Of these things have been
doing regularly in Davenport, and
their abolition, If accomplished, will
mark a great change. Some of these
things are doing now in other Iowa
cities. It is time they were abolished,
not only in Davenport, but elsewhere.
| But the law is the law. Not Daven-
port, Sioux City, Council Bluffs, Des
Moines or Dubuque saloonists and
mayors are empowered to enact or null
| lily laws in Iowa. If there is to be
law enforcement and there should and
shall be, let it be law that is enforced
and not a set of rules formulated by
the saloonkeepers of any city or cities.
Now that we have come together on an
issue where all can agree, let's make
a cleaning.
Why, IL o'clock closing? The law
says 10. Why sales on Sunday? The
laws say not. Why side or rear doors
when the law forbids? Why any chairs
or tables? The law says there shall
be none Why restrict closing to cleo
ton days when the law closes saloons
on every legal holiday?
The SalOOnlStS OF Dubuque, DaVen-
port, Sioux City, and the other towns
which have been a law unto them
selves should arrive at the decisive
conclusion that the state law is the
best they can expect and all they are
likely to get. Davenport is in the
public eye, but it is only a case in
point We are coming to a time of
law observance or law enforcement.
Let those who assume to revise the
state statutes to their own profit look
to themselves lest a worse thing hap
pen.
BY the way, how does Senator AL
lison stand? A word from him would
carry weight
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1907-12-06
XVVVVVSVVVV@V SS'S'VWs'v'oSS'~" ?
! lmportant Decisions
purY no PAY .1NTEREsT


According to the decision of Penn
sylvania supreme court ira Gorgas ".
Saxman, IS Atlantic Reporter, 619, a
debtor is not excused from paying in
terest on a debt because he believes
the creditor insane 1t was urged that
the good faith of the debtor in making
an effort to ascertain the mental con-
dition of the creditor, and in relying
on such information, was shown by the
subsequent proceedings, in which the
debtor was found to be of a weak
mind, and a guardian appointed, but
the court states that a proceeding of
that nature is different in scope and
character from one delunatico in
quirendo.
DISTINCTION BETWEEN RESI-
DENCE AND DOAIICILE.
In Pickering V. Winch, 81 Pacific
Reporter, 1853, the supreme court of
Oregon notes that residence and domi-
ellie are not interchangeable terms.
and draws a distinction between such
terms. Residence denotes a place Of
abode, whether temporary or perman-
ent, while domicile denotes fixed
and permanent home, and need not be
the actual place of abode. Domicile
does not depend upon mere naked
residence, but is the legal, the juridi-
cal seat of every person-the seat
where he is considered to be in the
eyes of the law, for certain applicat-
tons of law, whether he be corporeal-
ly found there, or whether he be not
Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1907-12-06

is to the agency commission, and
, in the poem. it is nothing more. If
all those who have received impor-
tant looking documents demanding
immediate payment of one kind or
another of alleged obligation, were
marshaled together, they would make
a vast throng and represent a Won
derful sum in postage stamps. 1t is a
method that has been much favored
by a certain class OF newspapers that
start without orders and continue
against protest.
One of the latest schemes ito scare
money out of rubes" is sent to the
T.-R. office by Grinnell lawyer as a
curiosity. Here it is, with names
substituted:
Observation-Disclosures. Original.
Podhunk Pow Co.
State of Iowa. Polk county, IS.
Hiram Hogbuyer VS.. Hiram Hog
buyer defendant.
BY Virtue of a Warrant of Subpoena
you are hereby directed to appear be-
fore The Universal Adjustment
Co, forthwith duly commissioned at
torneys, for the plaintiff. at their Of
flee, in Podunll, at o'clock, a. M, on
the 11th day Of November, A. D.,
1907, or make payment of $3.50 due
and payable from you to Podunk Pillow
Co., plaintiff And this you shall in
no wise omit. under penalty of the
cost of an action in court against
you and If claim and costs are not full
ly paid, your estate will suffer in con-
sequence.
Witness. John Doe, with signature
hereunto affixed az Des Moines. in
said county this Goth day of October,
1907 JOHN DOE.
The average man fears the law. He
to be an order from a court is often
enough to scare him into paying bill
that he considers unjust. He reasons
that it is small amount, and that
he can't afford to be sued for it. If
he is to be hailed away to Podunk and
put to expense, taken out of a corn
field in huslSing time, he had best pay
the amount claimed and submit to
shake Gown rather than to spend
a week and $50 defending. The de
PENDANT" in question did the right
thing. Ffe went to a good lawyer and
Went away easy in his mind Not every
man submits but surely enough to
make the system profitable
Perhaps this counterfeiting of sub
poenas is not punishable under the
law, but it ought to be. 1t is such
plain deceit and Dunk game that it
ought not to be permitted. However,
nowadays men are becoming pretty
well able to take care of themselves,
and the farmer is not an easy mark.