The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-08-07
The STRAPHANGER AN ASSET
No INTER-NET TRAIN FILLED
UNLESS HE'S on BOARD.

General Manager Hcdiey Tostines Also That
Revenue and Not Public C-suvenaeace
Governs the Transfer Methods More
Elevated Train, Gan De Operated.
General Manager Frank Hediey Of the
marlborough company, testifying yes
terday at the transit investigation by
the Public Service Commission. made
the frank admission that his company
did not consider a train filed unless there
was a certain number of straphangers
in the cars. This assertion. coming after
another equally surprising intimation
earlier In the session that the company
continued the cumbersome transfer
methods between the elevated and subway
lines II I<sth street because 1t thought
more Of the protection OF Its revenues
han the accommodation and convenience
Of the public. made the lawyers for the
Inter-Met get busy and just before the
| adjournment Paul d. Cravash sought
! to make a statement which vas intended
to offset the effect Of the evidence given
by Mr.. Hedley.
\ Mr.. Cravath. however. was shut OF
by Commissioner Wilcox. who said that
the witness after reading his testimony
would rave an opportunity to make any
corrections in the record that he desired.
Mr.. Hedley had acknowledged that
more trains could be put on the elevated
lines, provided they are needed when
William M. WINS, special counsel 90 the
commission. asked:
Would you consider that they were
needed il they ran only t~hree-Quarters
fun1"
mo, SIR" replied Mr.. Hedley.
! Now that is a very frank answer
Mr.. Wins continued. Then 1t is part
OF your scheme in running our trains
to run them on a schedule which viii re-
quire part Of the passengers TO be standing
oil every trainf"
Mr.. Cravsth jumped TO the assistance
Of Mr.. Hedley by suggesting that the wit
ness had misunderstood the question.
whereupon Mr.. Twins reframed the question
in this way:
What do you mean when you say If
needed? Do you mean that all seats shall
be filed and that there shall be some stand
ing as well?'
Yes, sir" Mr.. Hedley answered.
A few moments later MIR. Hedley took
an opportunity to make a qualification Of
this statement by remarking:
What I meant was that If trains are
leaving I5Sth street or is5th street going
down TO South Ferry. when those trains
| get down to iO4th street there are five or six
passengers standing in each OF the cars.
When that same train 8ets down TO Sixty
sixth street enough passengers have got
OF 30 that there are some vacant seats
| and we do not think 1t necessary to have
additional cars attached to that particular
train"
But you dc admit hat II 10 possible to
run more rains during certain hours Of the
day if traffic requires it'" asked MIR. WINS.
Yes Mr.. Hedley replied.
Early in the session MIR. Hedley readily
agreed that con gestion was caused at the
10th street station because OF the trans
ferring methods in force there. 1t seems
that passengers Wishing to transfer from
| the elevated to the subway get a slip at tho
gate as they 60 out and then this slip has to
be- exchanged at the ticket Office for q train
ticket Mr.. Hedley admitted that it would
be more convenient for the passengers to
get a transfer ticket in the first instance
and drop it in the box. but he added: We
I don't consider that we have as much pro-
lection for our revenue in that way OF
handling the transfer tickets as we do in
the method we now lave In vogue"
Mr.. Hediey explained that the reason for
this method was TO prevent the sale OF I'M
used transfer Nckets on the streets and at
newspaper stands.
Then" remarked Commissioner Eustis,
you care more for protecting your reve-
nues than you do for accommodating the
public
NO. air. the witness replied.
Q. Did you ever stand in a line Of forty or
hfty men waiting to get down in the subway.
waiting to get their chance at the ticket ONCE.
and see q train come in and go by and see them
lose their train? 4. Never.
Q. ! saw them detained there the other
night, detained two minutes. went up there
and watched the congestion. ! stood on the
top Of the stairs. and u was two minute before
they could get down from the top OF the plat
form and catch the train. A. Was that the
subway
O. Yes. A. Was that a regular condition?
q. IL was a regular condition about 9 o'clock
at night. A. At that point We have men who
do not sell any tickets but DO nothing but
exchange.
The greater part OF the days proceedings
was taken up by inquiring into the theory
and basis upon which the schedules OF the
trains of the elevated lines are made up.
Mr.. WINS sought TO force from Mr.. He'd
ley an admission that the schedules were
compiled OF the one idea and purpose
that every train should be run at Q profit,
but the witness would not concede this.
We'll. are you prepared to swear" in
sisted Mr.. Twins. that your schedule 10
made up for the purpose Of accommodate
ing the entire trafio without reference to
the profit of the train trip. without con-
siderstion at all OF the profit per train
trip"
OF course there must be some con-
sideration to the cost OF running our
trains" Mr.. Hedley answered. and 1t 10
a fact that there 10 consideration given to
the cost of running the trains when the
schedule is being prepared"
The result Of O long discussion between
Mr.. Twins and the witness on the headways
maintained on the Sixth and Ninth avenue
lines was the admission by the witness that