Omaha daily bee. (Omaha [Neb.]) 187?-1922, 1907-03-20


far as you can"
The witness said in almost every case of
paranoia there are decisions.
"Wero there in the case or H. X. TT"
81 think So"
What delusions?"
"Delusions of persecution"
'Where?"
I'm the will in which he leaves large
sums of money for the prosecution of any
one who might cause his death. Then there
is the fact that he carried a revolver"
But" said Mr.. Jerome, suppose 1t was
true that someone was attempting to kill
him, it would not be delusion then, would
it,"
Does this question prove" replied the
witness, hotly, that someone was looking
for III. X. T., with a hypothetical-I mean,
a pistol?"
Justice Fitzgerald Joined in the general
laughter.
Mr.. Delmas objected repeatedly to Dis
trict Attorney Jerome's course in the cross
examination, but Justice Fitzgerald over
ruled the attorney for the defense.
DIR. Jelliffe went into a long discussion in
answer to a question by Mr.. Jerome as to
the coherency of Thaw's conversations on
the Madison Square Garden the night Of
| the tragedy.
Time of Thaw's Insanity.
Mr.. Jerome and DR.. Jelliffe spent many
minutes discussing whether 1t was coherent
for one person to want to introduce
''buxom brunette" to another, referring to
Thaw's conversation with James Clinch
Smith.
Il don't think such "a conversation" said
Dr. Jelliffe, lis what one would expect be-
tween gentlemen"
II said nothing about gentlemen" said
Mr.. Jerome. I'VE are not trying this de-
PENDANT for not being a gentleman"
The insane period prior to the tragedy
Dr. Jelliffe said. was about two years and
a half. He thought that Thaw was insane
when he wrote the letters which are in evil
dence, when he made the will and codicil
and when he married Evelyn Nesbit IN
doubtedly there had been rational intervals
during the course of Thaws mental sick
ness The physical examinations in the
Tombs made by Drs. Wagner and Evans
were gone over carefully. Then came the
actual events Immediately preceding and
| following the shooting. DIR. Jelliffe re-
peated previous replies to questions regard
! ing Thaws knowledge of what he was
doing on the night of the homicide, to the
| effect that In his opinion Thaw had an in
sane knowledge at the time. He also said
that Thaw doubtless remembered what
| Miss Nesbit told him in Paris The fact
that a man had a good memory for such
things was by no means a sign that a man
was sane.
Doctor" said Mr.. Jerome, did you ever
see an insane man at work in a shop?"
Redirect Examination.
Il have seen many insane men making
rugs. l remember one man who as he
passed the tool back and forth among the
cords kept repeating III kill him, I'll kill
him. I'll kill him"
Did he know what he was doing?"
II think So But it is my opinion he also
thought he was killing someone at the
same time"
Mr.. Jerome concluded his cross-examina-
ton and Mr.. Delmas began his redirect
examination.
DIR. Jellifre explained the difference be-
tween sane and insane knowledge as
shown in the case Of the insane rug
makers. His explanations were much the
same as those given by Dr. Evans, whose
. example was an insane shoemaker. Dr.
Jelliffe did not think that Thaw knew the
nature or quality Of his act when he shot
White.
The witness was not permitted to say
why he had not examined the defendant
Just as the luncheon recess was ordered
. Mr.. Delmas announced that his redirect
examination Of the witness was concluded.
Dr. Jelliffe was excused and DR.. Pilgrim
was called.
Dr. Pilgrim was Of the opinion that Thaw
I was insane.
! DR.. Pilgrim was excused after a brief
cross-examination and Dr. Minas Gregory
was called. DR.. Gregory said his opinion
was that Thaw was insane when he killed
White.
5 After recess DR.. B. d. Evans was recalled
to answer the hypothetical question as
framed by District Attorney Jerome. Using
] this question a basis Dr. Evans declared
: the opinion that Thaw when ne killed
] White did not know the nature or quality
! Of his act or that the act was wrong.
j Time of Insanity.
When H. X. T. wrote the letters exhibit
4 A TO I Dr. Evans thought he knew what
I he was doing.
when H. X. T. walked down the aisle
{ just before he shot g. W did he know
a he was approaching 8. VIZ" asked Mr.
< Jerome.
= After carefully examining the plan Of
n the garden DR.. Evans said he thought H
q X. T. knew he was walking, but there
3 was nothing in the hypothetical question tC
4 show he was approaching s. W.
2 when he held the revolver above hil
q head and unloaded II by breaking il. die
he know what he was doing?" continued
e Mr.. Jerome.
n Il don't believe that he realized what h,
d was doing, except In an insane way" re
n piled DR.. Evans,
:, Every Thaw move that night was taker
Is up by Mr.. Jerome and In each case DR.
n Evans was asked II Thaw knew what h,
was doing
y He had an insane realization" reptile,
Ie the witness repeatedly.
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