The San Francisco call., 1907-06-08

What did you believe would happen
to your licenses if you did not pay
this money!"
I'VE believed if we did not pay the
money we would be closed up, as Tor
toni's had been; that there was no
/ other way out of It, l believed that
Ruef and Schmitz controlled the po-
lice commission"
your place employed union walters
and cooks?'
Yes. We never had any trouble"
Campbell queried: We'll, you didn't
have any trouble with the police or
police commission either, did your"
Not after we paid for protection"
was the disconcerting reply
Heney's last question was: How did
you feel about that money!"
Well, I felt like a man who had
been held up by fodtpad."
Campbell broke in heatedly with:
Didn't Mr.. w. j. Burns tell you to say
that?"
Nobody told me to say it. That is
my own conviction. That is the way I
felt about it. replied the witness.
MALFANTI CoRROBORATED
Joseph Malfanti, proprietor of Del
monicos, proved to be the most dan
gerous witness for the defense. He in
sisted that in his talks with the mayor
t1dI SCnnlIz HdQ Iull hnOWlSQS0 VI tie
deal with Ruef and promised to urge
immediate final action on the licenses.
1t was Malfanti who came closest to
connecting Schmitz directly with the
holdup.
Did you ever go to see Schmitz?"
Heney interrogated.
Yes, with Blanco and Priet, about
the second or third of January. The
mayor seemed astonished that our Ii
cT,< 1o 1,Al1 To he
had never had any trouble about our
places. In fact, that he enjoyed them
himself. He was very polite to us and
said he would call a meeting Of the
police commission"
What did yot do after the meeting?"
well, it looked pretty blue. We
smelled rat. / was convinced Of the
situation then, but in the evening at the
regular meeting Adler came up with
his attorney. 1t was the same thing
over. The commissioners would not
listen to the lawyer. They told Rosen-
thai it was too late"
What did you decide to do?''
Nothing that evening; but Loupy
came around and said, Let Malfanti and
me go to Ruef' We telephoned and
made a meeting for the next day
why did you want to see Ruef?'
"Loupy had talked about seeing Ruef,
and l had made up my mind that was
the only thing to do. The next day
Loupy reported. He said that Ruef
would take $1,000 year to protect us
for two years. We did not then raise
the money, but told Loupy to go around
and see the other restaurant men to
raise the money Prier said he wouldn't
trust Loupy with that amount of
money and that he would go to Ruef
himself He came back and said 1t
would be $4,000 a year
What were you to get for the
money!,
GUARANTEED PROTECTION
I'VE were to get our licenses and not
have any trouble for two years"
How was it to be paid?'
'In currency, and to be taken by one
person"
Did Priet get receipts"
No; he said we should be glad to get
Ruefs word of honor"
Did you ever pay any money your
self?"
Il did at the end of the year-$s, ,o0o."
How did you pay it?'
II got it changed into $1,000 notes at
the bank and took it to Ruef's office,
where I gave it to Ruef himself"
Did you go to Ruef because he was
a lawyer?"
'I went to him because he was the
man who controlled and could do as he
pleased with the administration. 1t was
go to Ruef, or lose our license and go
out of business. We paid the money
and we got his word that everything
would be all right
Did Schmitz come to your place
after the money, was paid to Ruef?"
Yes; he came In to lunch, and the
waiter told me the mayor was up stairs.
went up and asked him why did not
get my license;sSI was losing money.
The mayor said, I told him (Ruef) to
go right ahead, He said he did not un-
derstand why there should be any de-
lay"
when Ruef represented you at a
meeting of the police commission what
occurred?"
REMOVAL OF HUTTON
Mr.. Ruef stood up and asked for
continuance He got it,
Did Ruef say anything to you about
the removal of Hutton?
mo, sir; when he asked for con
tinuance I expected he was going to
give Hutton or Reagan a little vaca-
tion."
did you see the regulations submit
ted by Ruef?'
Yes, sir"
What change did they make In the
conduct of your business?
None at ALL
why did you pay the second Year,
We'll. thought was man of my
word. Priet was dead. so thought
should make the collection sent to
Adler and he said he wouldn't pay any
more. So I thought I would save
money by that. l would give him
81 600, get 1000 each from Blanco and
Debret and let him collect the rest him
self. told him when / gave him the
$4,000 he had more ways Of collecting
it than / had and he could get the rest
himself. Mr.. Ruef said that was all
right, he would attend to It,
The cross examination resulted in
the single exhibition of ill feeling dur
ing the day. Campbell asked:
Did any one tell you that you had
to pay this money!
THAT wasn't necessary" replied the
witness. The circumstances were
such that we knew we had to go