The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-08-04
FISH GIVES LIE
TO I. H.. HARTMAN
Feeling Between Rival Railway
Magnatcs Aroused by Harri-
Ia, mans Claim.
AS TO OWNERSHIP OF STOCK
MIR. Hartman Claims to Be Larg-
est Holder. Of Illinois
Central.

NEW YORK. August 1.-The E. II.
Hartman. stuyvesant Fish fight, which
has been smnldering since Mr.. Harri.
man got the upper hand In November,
1906. and put Ills own name in as pres
Sdent of tile Illinois Central IN place
OF Mr.. Fish, blazed UP IN fine style
yesterday.
1t promises 70 be almost rs proni-
nently before the public eve from now
until the meeting OF the stockholders
OF the Illinois Central on october 10th,
rs 1t was in tile period between the
Insurance Investigation, which broke
UP the close friendship formerly exist
ing between the two men, and the
directors meeting ~ which MIR. Fish
was deposed.
Yesterday Mr.. Fish stirred up things
In way that ended in his calling MIR.
Hartman lar. Mr.. Fish first sent
out statement about the illinois Gem
trail, in which he called attention to
the smallness of Mr.. Hnrrlnans stock
holdings III comparison with his own.
and said that while he did not intend
y to enter into an active campaign for
/ e-election to the presidency. he had
received from stockholders large
number of unsolicited proxies and
would be on hand at the meeting to
Vote them In addition 10 his own stock
and the stock OF his close associates in |
the company.
When Mr. Hartman was leaving the
office of t!les-Union Pacific Railroad
Company this afternoon, he had not
yet seen the statement
Hartman Sees Statement
AS he approached the reporters who 4
were waiting for him at the door he
shook his head, and said iocularly. pre-
sunla bly, in reference to some of the I
y S,ofo r,-;au
ed to him." am not going TO say any /
foolish things to-day
Have YOU seen Mr.. Fish's state
nlent?" he was asked.
AS Mr.. Hartman glanced through II
the statement. his laughing manner
disappeared and he grew more Sc
rious.
II am the largest stockholder in II
,linois Central he said emphatica ~,
'"and always have been ever since [
went into it,
You mean counting the holdings in
Union Pacific and OF Your friends. don't
you. Mr. Hartman"
Never mind what l mean. own
more shares than Mr.. Fish, several
times over, and he knows 1t, too
He says You own only $50 shares"
HE has said "a lot of things lately
that werent-well that We're not just
right
And with that Mr.. Hartman, who
had been talking on the elevator. and
in the street, disappeared down the
subway. @
Fish Remains Quiet.
At Mr.. Fishs office in the Nationals
Park Building there We're a hundred
or so copies of the evening papers on
a desk.iand his secretary was busy
cutting the statement out of them
preparatory to sending it to stock
holders of the company who had writ
ten to Mr.. Fish.
1t was In answer to letters incloslng
proxies and asking about his attitude
on the Illinois Central matter that Mr..
Fish made his statement.
Il have nothing to add to my.
statement" Mr. Fish said
'Have you heard what Mr. Harri-
man said about it," he was asked
mo. I haven't. I don't care what 4
he said. II you want to- though. you,
can tell me-"
We'll. he said that he had been the
largest stakeholder in Illinois Cen
trail ever since he got into II. and that
he owned several times a S many Shares
as You, and that you Aknew ill.,
At that Mr.. Fish grew scarlet. He
leaned forward in his chair and said: /
If he said that. he lies, and YOU
can print that l said So