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The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
HOTEL ARRIVALS.

Palmer-SiGney Loeb, Chicago: L.
J. Shelly, st. Louis; c. 10. Goodyear.
Cincinnati; William Hassman, Peo-
ria. H.; w. r. Morris. New York;
I. M. Orrell, Carrollton; Charles Jas
berger, Louisville; Maurice Schmarz,
Buffalo. n. Y; r. c. Brier, Louis
vile; c. T. Mcdaniel, Union City.
Tenn; A. Schmidt, HUNTSVILLE ]. A.
Logan, Cincinnati; ST. n. Woods.
Cairo. Ill.,; C. B. Hayes. Flint, Mich;
w. n. Hoover, st. Louis.
Belvedere-W. D. Moore, Cleveland
o.; c. L. Hill Nashville, Tenn; Joe
Ryan, Murray; c. G.. Beale, Evans
vile, Ind; w. G. Langdon, Macon.
Ga; K. e julius. Chattanooga,
Tenn; ]. N. Holly. Hardin.
New Richmond-Harry Brewer,
Carrsvi,le; r. c. Ellis, Nashville.
Tenn; w. H. Nogg, Thebes, ILL.,: e.
p Mason. Hazel; I. ]. Harris, Louis
Vile; e. L. Landers, Beech Grove,
Ill.,; Gilbert Coffee. Mayfield: w. H.
Hollins. st. Louis; w. ]. NailIHngs.
Union City, Tenn; c. p. Weber,
Henderson.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
CALL EXTENDED
TO REY. G. D. HAMM
German Lutheran CODgrega-
ton Wants, Him
He Declined Invitation Once But Pa
ducah Church REFUSES to Take,
No, For Answer.
SERVICES AT GRACE CHURCH

At the business session of the Ger
man Lutheran church held yesterday
afternoon at the church, it was de-
cided to extend a second call to the
Rev. G. d. Hamm of st. Louis to &C
cept the passionate of the church. Mr.
Hamm was called several weeks ago,
but declined. The church however,
does not wish to give him up with
out urging again.
The church services yesterday were
conducted by the Rev. Paul Bente, a
student of the Theological Semi
nary of ST. Louis. who has been in
charge here since the resignation
and departure of the Rev. c. A. H.
ten.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
DIR. Wells Pleases.

The Rev. DR.. Wells, OF Bowling
Green, filled the pulpit Of the First
Christian church yesterday. Wells
Is a pleasant and forcible speaker
and delivered two excellent sermons.
He was greeted by large congrega-
tons. It IS possible that he may be
called to the church here, but no ac-
ton has yet been taken.
DR.. Wells returned home today.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
Grace Episcopal.

At Grace Episcopal church yester-
day morning, the Rev. David Cady
Wright preached by request the first
sermon he delivered on coming to
Paducah. It was Jacob at the Ford
and was an eloquent and
powerful delineation of the Jacob
who wrestled all night with the an
gel and came forth triumphant. the
new man Israel. Changed in charac-
ter, but ever bearing with him the
mark of the great spiritual warfare,
as all must. The sermon aibounded in
strong and practical truths and 0elp-
full thought.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
What Osteopathy win Do.

There are but few people who have
not heard of Osteopathy, also of
some of its achievements. But there
are far too many who have accredit-
ed it with being good for only those
conditions from which they have
been cured, or which have come I'M
der their observation. Not infrequent-
ly there is mutual surprise when one
who was cured of rheumatism meets
another who has been cured of asth-
ma or constipation. This is a homely.
but very true illustration.
Personally, l have cured chronic
cases of constipation. Rheumatism.
asthma, nervousness. neuralgia ana
headaches for people whom you
know well. and the value of the os-
teopathlc treatment is but coming
generally known in Paducah. as 1t
should be.
l should Ike to talk Vsth you at
any time about your particular case,
and know I can cite you TO some OF
your friends who will attest to what
the treatment has done for them Ia
similar diseases. Come to my ONCE,
SIG Broadway, or phone 1407 any
time from 9 to IL or 2 70 5 p. m.
DIR. G. B. FR0AGE.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Are you following that billion
aires advice and putting something
by for rainy day."
yes, although / can't help sus-
pecting that when the rainy day
comes that some Millionaire will have
the umbrella market entirely COL
Observation-Disclosures Star.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
YES;
WOMEN "KNOw THINGS
ABOUT PRICES"

The woman who has had the
benefit Of some years of tad
reading" is. as consequence,
'educated'' in some directions i'm
quite as practical a way as her
husband.
Indeed, IL the husband knows
his profession, his business. his
trade, asswell as the wife knows
her business as "buyer for the
home" he will prosper.
The woman shopper under
stands that her education--as a
"buyer' - Is never finished.
Conditions, markets, prices.
goods, fashions, fabrics--alI
these are changing and altering
continually. To keep "posted,"
the housewife watches the store
advertising with an alert eve
and understanding.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Mamma = Hush. Willie. It's
wrong to say anyone is going straight
to the devil. ms
Willie--That'snso. You have to be
crooked to go there, don't you'll
Philadelphia Press. fo. r4sHinos
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Ladies' will not be permitted to
enter saloons at Lexington" says the
Kentucky State Journal. The law is
unconstitutional. 1t is class legisla-
ton. A lady should be permitted to do
anything that any other member of
her sex may.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

ever is nominated at the primary All
this being so, It Is up to the Demo-
Gratis to thresh over their issues, pick
out the best ones and then see that a
candidate is nominated who stands
squarely for something desirable.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
DIR. Ma,lriz Arrives.

Managua, Nicaragua, Feb. 20
DR.. Madriz arrived here today from
Salvador to offer his services to the
He is prominent lead
er of the Nicaraguan opposition.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

The reason really wise men do not
talk more is because the foolish do
not give them chance to get into
the conversation.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

The Michigan woman who had 400
inches of frog skin grated on her,
must begin to feel exuberant these
sprlng-like days.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
CUT FLOWERS.

Choice Carnations, per doz. soc
Roses, best grade per doz. :. s1.Os
Roman Hyacinths. white, per doz. SOC
A choice lot OF Azaleas in any
color, Just beginning to bloom.
Free delivery to any part of the
city.
scHMAUs BROS.
Both phones 1872.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
DEATHS ORA DAY
w. e. Augustus Infant.

The infant of Mr.. w. e. Augustus
died in Tyler yesterday at the age of
month. and was buried this morn
ing at IL o'clock.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
So she has written a book"

$50 she has written book"
eyes"
do you think 1t will be sue
cess?"
"I'm afraid not. Her publisher
says he sees nothing in 1t to which
the most fastidious could object"
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
Giyens Child.

The infant of c. G. Owens, Nine
tenth and Clay STREETS. died yesterday
of fever and was buried this after
noon at 2 o'clock.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

The buster a man Is the more time
he has in which to attend to some
thing you want done.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

II cigarette smoking was not so
universally condemned the average
boy would soon quit it.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

The car was not assassinated, but
the press may with economy save
that type for future use.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
Daily Thought.

THE man fitted and ready TO do
great things IS great, no matter how
sighted by fortune"
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

You deny woman one Of the
greatest pleasures of life when you
refuse to argue with her.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

The average man is so short-sight-
ed that he lets himself get miserable
over mighty little things.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Some self-made men give the i'm
preston that they have cheated them
selves. ..
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Personally appeared before me,
this Feb. ], 1907, E. j. Paxton, gen.
eral manager. Of The Sun, who af-
firms that the above statement Of
the circulation Of The Sun for the
month of Jan, 1907, is true to the
best OF his knowledge and belief.
PETER PURYEAR,
Notary Public.
My commission expires January
22, 1908.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Mrs. H. H. Dusey is able to be out
after a severe spell of the grip.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
For City Assessor.

The Sun is authorized to announce
the candidacy of Stewart Dick for the
office Of city assessor, subject to the
action Of the Democratic party. '-'''
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Liar is no longer fighting word in
Texas.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25

Perhaps the world isn't as bad as
the people VINO talk about It.
The Paducah evening sun. [volume] (Paducah, Ky.) 1906-1929, 1907-02-25
ANNOUNCEMENTS
For MAYOR.

The Sun is AUTHORIZED to announce
Charles Reed as a candidate for
mayor. subject to any action of the
Democratic party.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
PROMOTIONS MADE
Advancement Of Connecticut
Company Division Heads
Announced.
CHAPMAN TO PARK CITY
Middletown Man Goes There
To Succeed R. H. Smith
Resigned.
CHAPMAN TO PARK CITY

The resignation Of superintendent r.
H. Smith, VINO has been at the head
Of the Bridgeport division Of the Con-
necticut company, has been accepted.
He leaves to assume the managership
Of the Albany and Hudson road as was
announced some days ago. The change
at Bridgeport has resulted in a promo
tion for several Of the division superin-
endents which were announced at the
office in this city yesterday afternoon.
superintendent c. H. Chapman of
Middletown, who has been in charge OF
the trolleys in that city, has been trans
ferred to Bridgeport to succeed R. H.
Smith, resigned. Mr. Chapman's posi-
tion in Middletown will be filled by
Superintendent Church of Meriden, who
has been at the head Of the Meriden
Southington and Compounce division.
This division has ceased to exist as a
distinct division and has been annexed
to the regular Meriden division under
Superintendent Lee of that city.
All of the division superintendents
gathered in this city yesterday after
noon for a meeting.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
TWo-CENT Fare FIGHT
CONTEST is STARTED
Hearing on the Equity Suit
Instituted by the Penn.
Railroad.

Philadelphia, July 1.-THE fight of
the railroads against the constitution
ality Of the two cent railroad fare law
of Pennsylvania began to-day when a
hearing on the equity suit instituted
by the Pennsylvania Railroad company
to restrain the city and county of Phil
adelphia from enforcing the law was
begun before Judges Wilson and Au-
denreid in common pleas court No, 4.
President James McCrea of the Penn
syqlvania railroad was In court all day
and probably will take the witness
stand tomorrow.
The general contention Of the rail-
road company is that the law is uncon-
stitutional.
The company presented figures to
show that the average rate per pas
senger. per mile on the Pennsylvania
lines In the state was, one way pas
sengers, 2406 cents; excursion or round
trip 2109 cents; Communication 1.006
cents, and mileage two cents, or a
general average for all classes Of pas
sengers of 1907 cents.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
HAYWOOD TAKES Stand
DENIES TALE OF CRIME
He Considered Stuenenberg
Only a Subsidized Poll
tician.

Boise, July 11.-William D, Haywood
took oath to-day as a witness in his
own behalf, and in a lengthy narrative
of his life and work as leader Of his
fellow men, that was interrupted by
adjournment, denied guilt of the muir
der of Frank Steunenberg and the
manifold crimes charged against him
by Harry Orchard.
Haywood's testimony was chiefly
characterized by positive defense of al
legations made against him by the
prosecution. He denied that he met
Orchard until some time after the Vim
dicator explosion; denied that he sent
orchard back to Cripple Creek to blow
up the Independence station; denied
participation in the Lyte Gregory mur-
der, and denied suggesting or discuss
ing the Steunenberg murder. He swore
that he never gave Orchard any mon
ey, at any time or any place, for any
purpose. He declared that he never
made a threat against Steunenberg,
whom he regarded only as he did any
politician who was swayed by capital
istic influence.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
AGAINST HACK Fare ZONES
MAYOR sTUDLEY's
Believes Personally That
Single Rate Should Pre-
vail Between Rivers.

Mayor Studley last evening express
ed himself as being personally unfavor-
able to the new scheme Of hack fares
as proposed by the new ordinance
which is now under consideration by
the board of aldermen. The new ordi-
nance is a so-called zone law" provid-
ing varying charges for arbitrarily-di-
vided districts. Mayor Studley stated
his own opinion as in favor of a uni
form rate anywhere between the two
rivers, West and Quinnipiac, with pos
sibly extra allowance beyond those
bounds. He sustained his view with
the argument that few people could
tell the boundaries of the zones, and
that it was wrong system to fix
charges so that one side of q city street
might cost one price and the other side
another
The discussion took place In the board
of finance. The mayor suggested a
uniform rate of so cents between the
rivers. The zone system he character
lied as an awful bad thing He stat
ed, however, that he did not wish to
create the impression that he would act
against the measure If passed by the
aldermen, but simply that his personal
choice would be the uniform fare.
Mr.. Lewis expressed the opinion that
New Haven was not so large that two
sets of fares were needed.
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Continued on Second Page.)
MAY Be Special Meeting
HELD BY ALDERMEN
New School Site Condemna-
ton the Matter of Press
ing Moment. .

A public hearing Of the special COM
mittee appointed by the board Of alder
men to consider the condemnation of
the site at 114-117 Greene street for the
new Wooster district school site is to
be called for next Wednesday evening
Alderman Townshend is chairman of
the committee. Mayor studley last ev-
ening broached the subject of a spe-
cial meeting of the board of aldermen
to act upon the report of the commit
tee when it is ready. The matter orig
inally came up as an emergency meas
ure and was sent back by the mayor as
the original condemnation order was
not in a correct form. Then the mat
ter was sent to the special committee.
las it is desired to hurry the proceed
ings, if possible, Mayor studley sug-
gests a special meeting rather than
waiting until the regular August board
meeting.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
MAY OPEN TOMORROW
New Naugntuck Line to Waterbury
Likely to Start Then.

new NAuBuAuNA AihC ~ "eeeNANeA-
Likely to Start Then.
After delay of week, during every
day Of which 1t was hoped to be able TO
open the new waterbury line via Maui
gatuck-seymour, the Connecticut COM
pany now expects definitely to be able
to run its cars over the new route to-
morrow. The delay, it is stated, has
been due to the fact that the United
Gas Improvement company of Philadel-
phia, holding the majority of stock Of
the Connecticut Railway and Lighting
company, had not received the transfer
of property of the Naugatuck Valley
Street Railway company.
The lease of the Connecticut Rail-
way and Lighting company to the New
York, New Haven and Hartford Rail
road company, made provision for the
transfer of the Naugatuck-s Seymour
line after it's completion to the lessor
corporation, and the responsibility for
such transfer rested upon the Philadel-
phia corporation.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
PLAN NEW BUILDING
McCusker & Schroeder to
Have One Instead Of
Remodeling
CHURCH ST. STRUCTURE
Will Expend $16, 900 in Put
ting Up One Of Two
Stories.
CHURCH ST. STRUCTURE

Instead of remodelng the front Of
of the McCyusker & Schroeder building
on Church street 1t has been decided to
tear down the present structure and
erect new one. In the main, the new
building will be similar to the standing
one, had the proposed alterations been
made on the latter. The two fronts
would have been identical,
The new building will be somewhat
deeper than the present one, having a
depth of 109 feet, while the frontage
will be sixty feet, the same as it is
now. The plans call for structure Of
two stories in front and one in the
back.
On the ground floor the building will
be arranged for three stores, and one
small office for the firm Of McCusker
& Schroeder. The second floor, which
will be only about half as deep as the
ground floor, will be for offices, Of
which there will be three. The frame
work will be Of steel construction
throughout The front will be of press
ed light brick, and will be very artis-
tic. The new building will cost $4,000.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
NEWS SUMMARY
GENERAL

GENERAL.
Japanese Evade immigration officer
The Two-Cent Fare Fight.
Eddy Case to Go Higher.
Jap Caught Drawing u s. Fort
Ticket Brokers Enjoined.
Seven Mine Workers Killed by Damp
E. w. Bean Thrown from Auto in Ohio.
STATE.
Chautauquans Filling Plainville Camp,
Criminal Negligence Charged.
Returned from 1000 Mile Voyage
Woolen Company Bankrupt
Milford Lodge of l. 0. 0. F. Installs
Boys Hatred Led to Murder.
Escaped from Plainville Sanitarium.
Twelfth c. V. Reunion.
Child Drowned at Play.
An Alarm Scares Away Burglars.
Fairbanks Men Sounding State Politics.
Report on Cattle Inspection.
Automobile Bill to Become Law.
CITY.
Miss Crittenden Knocked Down by Auto
Mayor Vetoes Grade Crossing Bill.
Plans to Finance City Beautiful.
Aldermen May Hold Special Meeting.
Lewis Death Accidental.-Dr. Bartlett.
Mayor Against Hack Fare Zones.
Assembly Hall for Ivy Street School,
Naugatuck Line Opens Tomorrow.
Trolley Managers Promoted.
Trolley Rep. Guests of Local Union.
Noise at Band Concerts
Business Men to Have Exposition.
Bowlers Dine at Republican Club.
Fire on Broadway.
Matinee Races To-day.
Another Serious Automobile Accident.
SPORTS.
Eight Golfers in National Championship
w. K Shepard Defeats Veteran Jackson
Lady Ann Makes New Track Record
Cops Beat Westvilles by Hard Hits.
Events in A. O. H. Athletic Meet.
Ponies Lose Double Header to Rosebuds
Hannifan and Strang Bat Out Homers.
Chances Cubs Lose to Phillies
Chicago Americans Hammer Patten.
Holyoke at the Rock To-day.
EVENTS TODAY.
Park Commission Meet Tonight.
Registrars Plan Tonight for Election
Opera Comique at Polls
Fails Of Niagara" at White City.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
PLAN TO FINANCE
CITY BEAUTIFUL
Committee Adopts Measure
to Furnish Funds For
Commission Of
Experts.
PLEDGE SYSTEM TO
MAKE UP $40, 900
Cass Gilbert and +. L. Ohm
stead Consent to Make
Two Of Proposed
Commission.

AT meeting Of the board Of the city
beautiful committee held in the mayor s
office yesterday afternoon, steps were
taken toward the early beginning of
plans for the beautifying of the city.
Eight OF the twelve members of the
committee were present, these being
George D. Seymour, Frederick f.
Brewster, Frederick d. Grave. James r.
Moran, Harry G. Day, Henry H. Town
shend, Max Adler and George D. Wat
rous.
The main business Of the session con-
sisted OF planning for the financial en-
gineering of the plans which II is de-
sired to have prepared by commission
Of three experts The finance commit
tee Yesterday presented a plan for
meeting the $4,000 which is required
for the commissions work, and this
plan was adopted by the committee as
whole. The idea is to obtain pledges
from citizens to cover a sufficient sum
to pay these expenses as the commit
tee realizes that at present the city
cannot afford to appropriate this sum.
The following letter, with sample
pledge form will be sent out to the
persons invited to the meeting of June
10 In the New Haven Historical society
hall, and to others with the hope that
sufficient pledges will be received from
those interested in the work to enable
1t to be started without delay. All those
who wish to contribute, whether they
receive these letters or not, are asked
to send their pledges to Henry Town
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
GRADE CROSSING
PETITION VETOED.
Mayor Sends Henry Dono-
vans Request for a Hear
ing Back to the
Board.
MAYORS ACTION ON
LAST DAY ALLOWED
Thinks Bill Was Passed
Under Misapprehension
of Actual Con-
ditions.

1t being the last day Of the ten which
Mayor studley had to consider the bills
passed by the board of aldermen at its
last meeting, his honor yesterday aft
ernoon sent in his disapproval Of the
order passed by the board on the petit
tion Of Henry Donovan for the aboli-
ton Of grade crossings in this city.
The petition Of Mr. Donovan asked the
board Of aldermen to request the state
railroad commissioners to set a date
for public hearing in this city on the
matter of doing away with grade cross
ings at Webster, Munson, Argyle, Di-
vision, Thompson, Ivy, Brewster and
Bassett streets, and Shelton avenue.
The petition was put in shortly after
the grade crossing accident in which
Frederick Behler was killed, in May.
Mr. Donovan in his petition set forth
that, If the grade crossings were order
ed abolished, under the present law the
railroad would have to bear the bur-
den Of expense, while If 1t was delayed
until new law, now pending, became
effective, such action would cost the
city in the neighborhood of 100000.
The petition was given a public hear
ing by the committee on railroads and
bridges, after which 1t was favorably
reported to the board. 1t was passed
at the regular July meeting on second
reading.
Mayor studley sends the bill back
with this explanation of his veto:
"Disapproyed, because I believe that
the order was passed under misap-
prehension as to actual conditions and
probable results, ana that the matter
should be again referred to an appro-
pirate committee for further investiga-
tion"
The veto will come before the board
at the meeting on the first Monday in
August. The board may accept the
veto, refer 1t to a committee again, as
suggested. or pass it over the veto.
The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1907-07-12
THE Willy JAPANESE
Fourteen Evnde immigration officers
and Disappear.

Washington, July 11.-Fourteen Jap
anese laborers who. under the labor
laws are not permitted to land in this
country, evaded the authorities in Phil
adelphia and are at large somewhere
in the United States. The men arrived
in Philadelphia on the ship Ersl1lne
M. Phelps, sugar laden from Hawaii on
May 2S. They were part of the crew
of the vessel and were paid off in Phil
adelphia. In accordance with the law
and regulations, they were taken before
the immigration authorities by the cap
tain of the ship. They could not be
landed, but, as they indicated an in
tention to reship on another vessel thus
continuing their occupation as seamen
the immigration officials had no control
over them. An inquiry into the matter
was made, developing the fact that the
fourteen Japanese simply disappeared
into the country. Where they are now
nobody knows.