The Richmond palladium. (Richmond, Ind.) 1906-1907, 1907-02-22

white tod you, NTH you talked with
| Thaw in Paris In 1907" asked Mr..
Jerome YES sir" replied Mrs.
Thaw. meekly.
Then the district attorney took a
new vein of questioning. DO YOU
know a place called the Dead Rat?' /"
yes"
Where is the Dead Rat? " Some
where in Paris"
Have you ever been there ?" Yes. +"
| What sort of a place is it," A
| cafe
rs it = reputable place." Il don't
know
did 1t seem reputable TO your II
don't know. People were sitting about
| eating"
WAS somebody dancing?'' az
think So
"Was it o'clock in the morning ?"
Possibly"
did you see cake-walk?" mo.
/ think there was Russian dance"
Sure there was no cake walk ?"
There may have been. I don't re-
member. | distinctly remember the
Russian Qdnce-
Was it before or after Thaw pro-
posed that you went to the Dead
Rat7'1 After"
Was it in 1902. mo. think it
was during the second trip-in 1904
How many times were you at the
Dead Rat?''' Il think only once"
Cant you fix even the year of your
visit?' Il think it was 1904
With whom did you go?" With
Mr.. Thaw and Mr.. Shubert, a theatre
cal manager. and another man whose
name 5on'e rsH anber.
Il ri!l esispcr ; name 10 you. aud
aS.z il the 1lau vas There" Nj.
Jerome whispered, and Mrs. Thaw
shook her head.
Was there a lady, or were there
ladies in the party?" Il think there
were-with MIR. Shubert"
Did you see many ladies of the
demimonde there?'' Mr.. Delmas was
on his feet with an objection.
Il am using the witness own ey-
preston said Mr.. Jerome. Il never
said that" calculated Mrs. Thaw in
dignantly.
Didn't you use the expression in a
letter." Again Mr.. Delmas objected,
and was sustained.
Don't YOU know what | mean?'
asked Mr. Jerome of the witness,
when | say did you see many of the
bunch from the tenderloin there?"
Il think So
Have you any doubt" NO"
do you know Miss Winchester"
Slightly"
Did yo:l see her do cake-walk az
the Dead Rat that night?" Il don't
remember"
In whose handwriting is this let
ter?" asked Mr.. Jerome handing her
several written sheets. Mr.. Thaw,
| think"
Have you any doubt of its'' q
don't think | have
Mr.. Jerome then offered the letter
in evidence. Mr.. Delmas objected on
the ground that it was mutilated and
the date was not fixed.
DO you know. of your own knowl-
adge, when this was written 4
haven't the slightest idea
VIII you note the paging OF that
letter." Yes
Didn't you and Mr.. Thaw, while
in Paris. write joint letters to friends,
you writing part and he the rest? Il
cannot say positively; very likely we
did
Had you changed your opinion in
regard to the general chastity of
women Il had
How soon after your talk with
Thaw did you change your mind?"
Very SOON
AT the time you 1eTt Paris in June,
1908. had you changed your mindo'
YES"
Mrs. Thaw could not remember,
she said, how long it was after Thaw's
proposal of marriage that she left
Paris.
Before the time you left Paris. had
you any appreciation that meretri-
cious relations between men and
women are immoral and wrong2'
Not until after my talk with Mr..
Thaw.'
After ti-at you did not believe 1t
was wrong" "Oh, yes"
Very wrong?" Not particularly.
I knew people said it was wrong.
did YOU think it very indicate
clu NuiSdf nat Is all.
That it was only bad tastes"
Yes
But you didn't think it was
wrong" Il didn't fully realize it I'M
til went TO Paris.
But you thought it was wronge"
Yes
Did you belong to any religious
No"
You went TO church and Sunday
school in Pittsburg?" Not in Pitts
burg
In Paris it was impressed on you
that White had done you A terrible
vrong9' In a way
Before you left Paris. you had be-
GIN to look on such relations as very
wrong" Yes
Had you come to full under
standing OF the Infamous character of
Whites act?" Yes, but not SO much
so as | have now
Yet If was this that induced your
remuneration of Thaws great love-"
Mr.. Delmas objected TO what he