New-York tribune., 1907-10-08
J. ?. MORGAN DEFEATED
Episcopal House of Deputies Re
fuses to Cut Membership.
TBy Telegraph 70 The Tribune. ]

Richmond Va. oct THE resolution introduced
by j Pierpont Morgan TO reduce the number of lay
and clerical representatives OF the various doceses
in the House of Deputies rejected by the depu-
| ties in the general convention of the Episcopal
Church to-day
At the present time there are sixty-one dioceses.
which send four lay and four clerical delegates.
making a total of 4SS and to this number must
be added about one hundred from missionary dis
tTicts. which brings the total close six hundred
An effort has been made by the delegates from
New York and Massachusetts to reduce this TO
three clerical and three lay delegates from each
! diocese, in order that the body shall be placed
better working basis. New York made effor
TO have the deputies appointed according 70 the
number of clergy and laity in the diocese, but this
was defeated in committee.
When the vote was taken the deputies noted
with keen interest how certain dioceses voted
The clergy from Massachusetts voted aye and
their lay colleagues voted no. Pennsylvania did
likewise The vote was aye in both orders from
Ne" YORK The measure was not approved
there were not enough big dioceses to begin 20
balance the negative vote from the many smaller
jurisdictions. The question of representation will
doubtless come up again in another form before
this convention.
committee of five appointed to raise
S5cooo' for the clerical relief fund.
DR.. Huntington. chairman Of the committee on
amendments 10 the constitution offered preamble
TO the constitution IN which he referred TO "this
American Church" This brought w w Old OK
Norfolk. 10 his feet in protest. He said adoption
would be IN violation OF the constitution and in
volve change Of the name OF the Church without
consideration. A heated debate followed, and tho
matter finally went over until tomorrow
Mr. solgster. lay delegate from Indianapolis.
chairman of the committee on unfinished business
reported resolution which accepted by the
house requesting that the committee be relieved
from further consideration of motion made by a
pennsylvania delegate that bishops be elected 20
preside over the the respective dioceses
dp6 a-Ha tp ~.
the womens Offering OF $223.00 10 women's work
in home missions.
In the House Of Bishops the day was spent for
the most part In the discussion of the Negro queg-
ton Whether or not negroes are to have their
own bishop, and practically be a separate church.
or whether they shall remain a part of the church
and under the control white bishops Is the ores
ton now consuming the time OF the bishops and
which will later be fought out on the floor Of the
Rouse OF Deputies. The strange part OF the whole
matter is that the bishops of dioccses throurbou,
the South are anxious that the negroes shall have
their own church and their own bishops while the
Northern and Western bishops for the most part
favor the present plan of white bishops over the
negroes.
II is said that Bishop Ferguson OF Cane PaIn,as
the only negro bishop and the only negro delegate
attending the convention is not in favor of a SEN
arate church and negro bishops 1t is openly said
that the bishops Of the South would be glad 10 be
relieved Of the burden Of negroes in their dioceses
Another matter OF interest was the passage OF a
joint resolution which recognized the diocese of
Duluth. and which practically grants permission to
the diocese of Georgia TO form a new diocsse
which, It is said. will be called the diocese OF At
lanta.
A matter Of special Importance. which developed
impetus during the day a movement 70 hold
the general convention of the church in 1910 in
New York City.
large missionary meeting held tonight at
the City Auditorium. The Bishop of Virginia pre-
sided. The principal speaker, the Bishop of
st. Adams. who spoke of the results of successful
missionary efforts in Uganda and in India, making
particularly apprecative mention OF the work OF
Scotch missionaries and American Baptist mis-
sionaries in the India field. Reckoning the many
activities of English missionary societies. he placed
the amount of money spent by English churchmen
last year at 100000, and said the societies needed
for their work about four hundred different ver-
sions of the Scriptures. Addresses were made also
by Archdeacon Stuck, OF Alaska; Bishop Roots OF
Hankow; the Rev Walter C. Clapp of the Philip
pines, and Bishop Partridge of Kioto
The Bishop OF London left to-day for Harvard
where he will make address, He has extended
invitations 10 Bishop Randolph. Bishop Gibson OF
Virginia and others TO attend the Lambeth con-
ference next year.