The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1907-01-15
ARE SOCIALISTS
Hartman, Roosevelt and
Carnegie the Foremost
in United States
SAYS UPTON SINCLAIR

New York, Jan. 13-Theodore Roose-
welt, Andrew Carnegie and Edward r.
Hartman are the three foremost So
cialists of the United States, accord
ing to Upton Sinclair. The author O.
THE Jungle" puts Mr.. Hartman in
the lead the president next and MIR.
Carnegie third.
Mr.. Sinclair made this surprising
statement in Halcyon hall, Englewood,
IN. j.. the headquarters of his new
socialist colony which now has 46
members,
Mr. Sinclair had been asked for an
expression of opinion on Mr.. Carnegie's
idea of checking the accumulation of
great fortunes.
Il am quite sure Mr.. Carnegie does
not want the history of his industrial
triumph put down in black and white, y
said he. The great library giver and
steel king has written himself down as
4 great socialist, but not the greatest
not the greatest. Mr.. Hartman is
the greatest, and then comes President
Roosevelt. Hartman comes first, be-
cause he is concentrating everything.
That is what socialists want. He is
the big fish in the present brutal, ruth
less competition.
For in the sea the big fish gobble
the little ones. Hartman is gobblins
them all. In this great country the
American people will not stand il
much longer. The mass of the people
will ultimately gobble Hartman and
then the people will come to their
own"
And Roosevelt?'
| THE president" said Mr.. Sinclair,
realizes that it is to do or die. Fl
| knows that if he doesn't, Bryan will
! The president is therefore determined
Socialistic idea.
Il see Mr.. Carnegie humbly depre-
Gates the claim of the merely wealthy
| to fame. They have no place with
educated men, and they occupy low
er plane Intellectually, he says. And
in the coming day, brains will count
above dollars, and conduct above both,
he says.
Some time ago | went to Pittsburg
to study the steel industry | heard
a great deal about Mr.. Carnegie II
talked to his workmen, his -superin-
tendents and foremen-the men who
knew him when he was gathering his
millions. No, Mr. Carnegie does not
want the world to know how he be-
came so rich.
Some day character will count.
You ask if the Socialists give Car
negie credit for his intelligence and
enterprise, and if these were not the
sources of his wealth. My observa-
ton has taught me that intelligence
and character do not count in the
struggle for wealth. The men of
largest fortunes are the ones with
fewest scruples.
And Mr.. Carnegie says that we
will ultimately have to consider the
development of some such scheme as
progressive tax on all fortunes be-
yond a certain limit, either given in
life or bequeathed at death. so that
of enormous fortunes to hand more
than a certain amount to an heir.
'Mr. Carnegie misses the main
point They all do. What will the
state do with all this wealth? Mr..
Carnegie would force the state to be-
come a competitor And the state
would have to swallow the
little fish to preserve itself. 1t
would be impossible to fix an amount
at which man must stop. The
thing to do, and the only thing to
do, is to prevent men from obtaining
great fortunes. Why not abolish the
tariff, lower the railroad rates, re-
duce the price of steel so that the
people would benefit. and few mil
lions would be handed to those al
rery immensely rich"
How about a world without mon
ey?'
THE anarchists talk of that-I
mean the philosophical scientific an
archists, not the ones who throw
bombs SBut the socialists have not
gone that far. The anarchists seek
a world where men will be placed on
their honor.
Men like Carnegie grow rich be-
cause they think of nothing but the
dollar-nothing hut the dollar and
how ii can be obtained-no matter
how"