The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1907-06-10

| the sawed or shotgun and then went
| home"
| Orchard denied he had ever jumped
| from wondow of the Adams hotel
| while Chief Lewis of the Denver detec-
tive force was looking for him.
After long line of questioning which
| developed little that was material, At
| torney Richardson suddenly turned on
Orchard and shouted:
| Look here, have you been cautioned
not to give definitely any time nor any
| place during this cross examinations"
I have been cautioned as to moth
| ing" retorted the witness with feeling.
but to tell the truth
Who cautioned you 4" demanded
Richardson
Mr.. Mcfarland and Mr.. Hawley"
Mr.. MCFARLAND is your mentor in
this matter
Il don't know what you mean by
mentor
L mean he has coached you"
mo, sir, no more than to tell me to
tell the TRUTH
You have also received a letter from
Mr. Bangs of New York, the superin-
tendent of a detective agency, encour-
aging you, haven't you?'
Orchard said he had never seen any
such letter. He also denied that he
had ever received a letter from William
A Pinkerton.
How He Was Paid.
The witness was next requested to re-
late the details surrounding Gacn Oc-
casion on which he received money from
Haywood, Meyer and Pettibone. He said
he thought the first money he received
from Pettibone was handed over in the
latter'S store.
And that was a public place. wasn't
it?" asked Richardson.
We went to the rear of the store"
Orchard said Pettibone had several
employees in the store and rented desk
room to two or more persons He said
fhare Iea11
a the money interviews except himself,
Steve Adams and either Haywood, Moy-
er or Pettibone. Speaking for himself
and Adams, Orchard said:
During the time we were working an
Mr.. Peabody we got $50 or 500 when
ever we asked for it."
He said he was gambling anG leading
something of a dissolute life.
Now from all you have said that you
know, these defendants had nothing to
do with planning the Vindicator mine
explosion?'' suggested Richardson.
Nothing other than to pay for it, re-
piled Orchard.
Il limited the question as to plotting
and planning" said Richardson. They
had nothing to do with planning the
Vindicator explosion or the killing of
Lyte Gregory -
mot so far as 1 know" replied the
witness.
Then they had nothing to do with
any of your outrages until the Inde-
pendence depot affair."
Il believe they had nothing to do with
it, yes sir
I'VE mean as to planning
mo, they did not plan it
Independence Depot Affair.
As to the independence depot af-
fair. Orchard said it was planned to
blow up the depot before the arrival
of the train. This was arranged to
save the trainmen.
''And you didn't intend to blow up
anybody, but just this depot which
was simply a stopping place without
an agent or anybody there"
"Yes sir; we intended blowing up
the nonunion men who took the train
there
why did you want to save the
trainmen? asked Richardson with
signifant inf1exion.
Sherman Parker said that one of |
the men on the train had been a good
witness for him in the trials and he
did not want him hurt"
But this was the same train you
felt sore about not being selected to
wreck"
"Yes sir"
Orchard denied that he had talked
to railroad Detective Scott about the |
plans to blow up the depot and save |
the train. He also denies that it was |
on Scott's account he agreed to save |
the train.
You expected to kill SO men that |
night?''
IT did not know how many
"You thought the more the mer-
rier, didn't you?'
81 wasn't thinking about it,
You did not care whether it was
one or 100 did your"
II wasn't thinking about it, repeat
ed the witness somewhat sullenly.
Attorney Richardson asked Orchard |
to make a pencil sketch of the Inde
pendence depot, the railroad tracks and |
the direction in which he ran after the
explosion. The witness promptly COM
piled, drawing diagram with steady
hand.
Orchard said that after the explosion
ne went to Denver with Johnny Neville
and the latter's IA year old son. On the
rip the older Neville taxed Orchard
With the crime.
Did the boy hear this?' asked Rich
ardson.
But you were all three together?''
Most of the time"
do you say the boy could not hear
because you know he is still alive?"
No"
Reaching Denver Orchard went to
lack Simpkins' room. James Kirwan,
low acting secretary-treasurer of the
Western Federation of Miners, was
here but went out before the Inde-
,endence affair was discussed. Hay
wood and Pettibone came in later and
aid with Simpkins that it had been a
Inc Job
HAD they given you any instruc-
ions about the AFFAIR.""
mo sir.
What did they say?"
Haywood asked how much money
wanted He said not to take too
much that I could get more at any
ime 1 wanted it,.
There had been no arrangement
n advance to pay you single dollar
or this affair had there ?"
fo1 r. crof dnI1 c r |
Orchard said there was no parti-
ular agreement about the Indepen-
ence depot. He blew. it up as a part
f his general instructions to "go
and ont things Loose -