The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-02-06

conversation with the prisoner a good
part of the time
Attorney McPike could not suppress:
a smile.
Thaw finally began to bite his finger
nails
DR.. Wiley dill not appear disconnected
in the least. however He rubbed his
eyes YEARLY with his hands as Mr.
Jerome hurled brOadsides of questions
at him, and made no reply.
| After bringing in every possible
change in the pneumo-e gastric nerve
Mr.. Jerome passed on to the tests OF
! insanity by the light and the eyes
DO you know Of the Argyle Robin
son test OF light?"
Yes"
Where did you ever hear of it?"
Il don't recall
Did you ever hear of such a thing
before / asked the question:"
The witness hesitated
Nailed Hard and Fast
Where" said Jerome. "in any book
in Gods whole wide world did you ever
read anything about the Argyle-Rob-
inson test of light"
Or. Wiley did not reply.
Did you ever examine this defend
ant as to his. sanity?"
No"
Have you seen him often?"
Yes. in Puttsburg''
Can you determine whether or not
a man is insane by locking at him?''
No. must have some converse
ton with him"
Did you ever converse with Thaw?''
mo"
do you think it right for you to
come here and give ii as your opinion
that man is insane when you have
not submitted him to any examina-
tion?"
Il have given my opinion on a hypo-
thetical question, not on an eXamina-
ton
"Are you willing to stake your repu-
tation on that opinion?"
Witness Not Prepared.
IT came here as a material witness
of fact, and I have been converted into
an expert witness without any prep
aration.'
so YOU do not come here as an ex-
pert witness, but believe you have been
converted into one?"
Yes"
DO you think the conversion will
Il am inclined to believe it will"
IF man at &c years of age" asked
Mr. Jerome, whose blood is tainted
with insanity. is seizea with honi-
cidal mania, is he not lilseIy to lapse
into such decisions again"
He might. 1t is a possibility"
rs it not a probability"
That depends. If the object and
circumstances of his deIusion are re-
moved he is not likely to lapse"
what dc insane people usually do
after killing a persona"
There uSna1lN fnIIhxr-e a
satisfaction and relief and a declaration
OF TACT. Thaw's declaration to his wife
that he had probably saved her life was
very suspicious circumstance"
DO you know that her life was not
in danger?"
mo. I assume it was not"
Second Pittsburo Witness.
Mr.. Jerome concluded his cross-exam-
nation Of DR.. Wiley, and DR.. c. II.
Bineaman. n Thaw family physician
from Plttsburg. was called as the sec
end witness for the defense.
DR.. Bingaman knew Harry Thaw for
thirty years. and his mother the same
length of time
Did you attend Harry Thaw in his
infancy"
Yes"
What disease do you first recall?"
"St. Vitus dance
On cross-eXamination Mr.. Jerome
merely had DR.. Binganlan repeat that
Thaw was years of age when ne suf-
fered from st. Vitus dance. The wit
ness was then released.
Cousin of Thaw on the Stand.
Alfred Lee Thaw, 49 years of age. a
resident Of Richmond Va, next was
called.
Are you related TO the defendant,
Harry X. Thaw?" asked Mr. Gleason.
II am. My father and his father were
first cousins
When did your father die?"
October 20. 1885
Where was your father, or have
you any means of knowing, where he
was when he died?"
II object" interrupted District At
torney Jerome. 'The question is irrel-
evant and immaterial"
I Justice Fitzgerald sustained Mr.. Je-
rome's objection.
The Point Argued.
Mr.. Gleason argued the point He
said 1t was intended to show a cOllat-
eral condition of Thaw's relatives-tht
cestry.
Mr.. Gleason said he wanted to prove
| the hereditary phase OF Thaw's insan.
| ity, and could trace ii back to a com.
mon ancestry with witness father. L
was not necessary or contemplated by
| the law that it should prove a mans
! father or grandfather were insane K
establish hereditary insanity.
| District Attorney Jerome argued il
reply that the witness was not com
petent person TO testify as TO insanity
| in the family Of the defendant. II wa
necessary. he said, to go back TO tbs
great grandfather and mother Of th'
witness and the defendant 10 react
common blood on the two collateral
branches of the family four separate
stocks had been blended with the brit
of the witness and the defendant.
Crack a! Dr.. Wiley.
81 infer from the opening address o
! the defense" said MIR. Jerome, tina
they expect to prove by this witness
that his father died I'm an asylum o.
some retreat for the insane. The fac
that a man dies in an asylum is no
proof of his insanity. The law doe
not recognize it. The fact that MAJ
dies in an asylum like that conducte'
by the eminent DR.. Wiley, who was OF
1 g.. ra<,