Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1907-02-18

reached the conclusion that Thaw was OF
unsound mind.
District Attorney Jerome submitted to the
court the contention that the witness should
produce any notes he may have taken at
the time of the interview.
General Cross-Examination.
That is a matter for general cross
examination" ruled Justice Fitzgerald.
although j am not compelled to do So"
said Mr. Delmas, Il will examine the wit
ness on the points so as to satisfy the
learned district attorney
Could Take No Notes.
DR.. Evans said he did take some notes
of one visit. but they were meager and
had been lost after he turned them over
to his stenographer. He took his assist
ant DR.. c. c. Belling, along to take notes
of the third visit. but Thaw dismissed
the physicians and counsel on that occa-
sion. IL
That ended the note taking" said the
witness. Il may omit essential details,
but I will have to depend entirely on my
memory"
iiSiS nhi- oSi oiiit oeeiiH NoJSSeSN
This Witness" he declared, says he
may omit essential facts
What can he do replied Justice Fitz-
gerald, but give his best memory? That
is all that is required by the rules of
evidence"
Objection O7erruled.
The objection was overruled, and DR..
Evans began to relate the incidents of
his first visit to Thaw on August 4 last.
Il took letter of Introduction to Mr..
Thaw from MIR. Hartridge and was finally
conducted to his cell. He gave me his
hand and looked at me with staring
and twitching of the eyes. With a ner-
vousness sucn as We seldom see and in
an agitated manner he asked me to have
a seat beside him on his cot. He looked
at me long time and then said:
Had Different Eyes.
"'You have different eyes from DR.. Ham
ilton. Your eyes look as if you were sane
man. His eyes suggested insanity
II asked him how he was, saying 1 had
been sent by Mr.. Hartridge to talk mat
tiers over. He said it was all right if 1
came from Hartridge, and in response to my
question as 10 how he felt he said: oh, I'm
all right
The words were nervously uttered and
were piled together. Then he continued:
Lew Delafield, a lawyer, and the firm of
Black, Olcott, Gruber & Bonynge are in
conspiracy with Jerome SO as to close this
matter up and railroad me off to an asylum
They want to haze me declared insane. 1t
is all rot. There's nothing to it. They
don't want me to come to trial, where
may be indicated and where 1 can tell
he tha all
matter
The Wrongs Alleged.
DIR. Evans said the arrival OF the prison.
er's wife and mother interrupted the inter-
view. He offered to withdraw, but Thaw
told him to remain and after kissing his
wife and mother and Introducing the ply
stefan, asked them to excuse him until he
had finished with his caller.
HE then told me- continued DIR. Evans,
''of Stanford White, and at great length
spoke of the alleged wrongs the man had
done to innocent and pure-minded girls.
He never referred to himself, and did
not seem to feel in any danger from his
position as a prisoner charged with murder.
He declared that White had drugged, pois-
oned and ruined a great number of young
women who had not been inclined to crime
been pure. He declared it to be the scheme
of his own lawyers and everybody else to
have all these matters shut away from
the public.
The Second Visit
DR. Evans next described his second visit
on August 81 last.
"Thaw came into the examination room
of the Tombs with large pasteboard box
In his arms. 1t was filled with papers He
was nervous and agitated and looked at
both myself and DIR. Wagner with the pc
culir stare. He had an air of self impor-
lance, as if he was telling what to do
instead of undergoing an examination him.
self He said he felt all right and slept
very well. He then proceeded to tell us the
same story of persecution he had related to
me on the occasion of my first visit.
He referred constantly to This man,
this creature, this dead man, the beast. the
backguard and said the man had sought
to take the virtue of every pure minded
woman who came within the sphere of his
observation.
- tried to save them,' Mr.. Thaw said
to u.s. and added: did all in my power.
1 never wanted to shoot the creature. 1
never wanted to kill him. 1 knew he was a
foul creature, destroying all the mothers
and daughters I'm America, but I wanted
through legal means to bring him to trial.
/ wanted to get him into court, so he would
be brought to justice.
Hand of Providence.
'I then asked him why under such cir
cumstances he had shot Mr.. White.
Providence took charge of it, he re-
plied; this was an act of Providence. For
my part Would rather have had him suffer
In court the humiliation the revelation of
his acts would have caused.
"Did he tell you what he had done, If any
thing. to bring Stanford White into court?"
asked Mr.. Delmas.
..He said he had gone t. see Anthony
Comstock. District Attorney Jerome and
private detective agency. He said Mr..
Jerome had told him he had better let the
matter drop; that there was nothing to 1t;
the detectives told him they would take
the matter up, but they had not submitted
a proper report. AS to Mr.. Comstock. he
said, he discovered that Delaney Nicoll,
the attorney was acting as legal adviser
both to Stanford White and to Comstock.
He regarded this as another link in the
conspiracy against him.
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