New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1907-08-20
GLENN ON RATE WAR.
HIS TWO SOLUTIONS.
North Carolina Governor Wants To
Be Sound scith This State.

Dragon as represented by the Southern Railway
left New York for his home in the Tar Heel state
last night after staying for1y-eeht hours here and
presenting two propositions TO Captain A p Thorn
,aneral counsel for the railroad. One suggestion
of the Governor was that the railroad drop it's
injunction proceedings and therefore stop the pres
ent investigation held under special master at
No 50 Broadway The road could then wait he
,oirted out until the United States S,,nrerne Corr.
could decide the constitutionality of the 2H-cent
-a-e The other proposition Of Governor Glenn was
,bat tie Southern give the "a fair trial" and
,hsn II the railroad couldn't make II pay il should
s6epend on the sense Of fairness sir that is in
he-ent in the people of North Carolina and their
legislature.
Caura!n Thorn promised TO submit these s,gges-
lions 20 ". ". Finley. president Of the Southern
Whether President Finley VIII make an answer
one way another Governor Glenn wasn't Ger
tain when Tribune reporter saw him yesterday
But the Governor did not seem to be worrying.
snd he hurried away after the interview to see the
Giants beat the Cubs. Governor Glenn was not
here 10 testify at the investigation down in Broad
way. and while he was enjoying the sight of real
big league game the lawyers for the railroad and
the state busily getting Cor near) the ESQ
,erc secrets OF the through rate as distinguished
from the local rate. and the relations OF the passen-
ger traf5c the freight traffic
Governor Glenn was found in his suite at the
hoffman House. He is broad stocky man. some
where near the half century milestone and his
familiar IN the portraits of the seuators of
TIE Augustan age My attitude" said the Cover
nor in his rich Southern accent. has been pretty
thoroughly understood ] am not a fire eater nor
en- I who viii allow a creature of the state
70 rue state. But there is one thing want
corrected first OF all. and 1 hope the papers will
make il plain. One Of your New York papers
quoted saying that New York should have
g c-cent rate and that IL could and would have
such rate had IL not been for Governor Hugles's
veto Of the bill that provided for the rate.
Nov. / want that corrected / asked II
New York could stand such a rate / replied that
knew nothing OF New York and that ] under
s-ood Governor Hughes vetoed the bill because the
law had not been complied with, nasrnuch as there
bas been no investigation OF the railroads business
70 determine just what profits they were making
admire Governor Hughes man and al OIL
Ger az his great and glorious state do not want
suv newspaper TO cloud my opinion there have
written a personal letter tc Governor hughes H.
rising him TO be my guest should he come TO ad-
dress the Chautauqua in North Carohha thls NC
sobe-.'
7rhs, asked what his opiuion might be regarding
New Yo~k's rate limit Governor Glenn SAID; L
think that New York can stand 2-cent rate
II Is more crowded than North Carolina There IS
more traffic here. Since We have discovered by in
ves.raton that the railroads in state can make
reasonable profit the 2i.-cent rate II STANDS TO
reason that New York railroads could do business
OF the 2-cent basis.
What do consider reasonable proft?" asked
the Governor IN response TO a question 'Men' II
seems that when business man is sure OF
70 per cent profit after all expenses, rents, damages
snd SO On are paid he IS doing mighty well. sir.
mighty wei. Now, the railroads n state can
make 10 per cent and more az the legal rate we
have established That is sufficient am not trying
70 kill the goose that lays the golden eggs-the
goose Of capital And when capital nlistnterprets
fair lsws-fair both the people and the corpora
sions-I must say capital is acting like 4 goose
Now take some OF the railroads in North Carolina
The Norfolk & Southern did not bring suit. but
submitted gracefully the law. 1t is doing bust
ness on the 21<-cent scale. and haven't heard any
bowls Of complaint. The Seaboard did bring suit.
but il did not Try 70 enioin after the decision
rendered against IL. You want 10 understand
that rate law provides that roads in course or
construction viii not be counted under its provis-
ions for twelve years. This exempts the South &
Western line that is being built at the greatest
expense Of any railroad in North Carolina.
'cNoz, ! don't be looked upon as a foe
Of capital. Why. to-day. Captain Thorn came 10
ne from the Southern and we talked over the case
! made two suggestions that he said he would
convey 20 President Finley. ! don't know whether
III receive any reilly. / said that the railroad
nigh: suspend the present action and crop the IN
restigaton before special master Then the cases
from the state Supreme Court ana the Chlteu
States Circuit Court could be taken up on appear
the United States Supreme Court There the
coustitltionality of the rate could be decided
without more ado, and, Of course, the parties
would know the final answer had been given. Be
g6es this plan. ] suggested that the railroad try
the rate for q time so to gee whether II could
exist under Its provisions. I told him that should
the railroad discover by this practical trial that
the bill suicidal, then # could depend for
alternating action On the sense Of fairness, sir,
that IS inherent in the people Of North Carolina
and their Legislature"
Governor Glenn was asked If at any time during
Had had ham char
Of The clash Of armed forces. His broad, almost
ooyish face flushed he said: IF militia had
been called out 70 enforce the DEGREES Of our Su-
preule Court and President Roosevelt had sent fed
been obliged TO allow force to overcome our law
But the Republican vote would have been cut
Gown good deal less than 1t is now, and that's
mighty little
Regarding politics. Governor Glenn said: You
ask ne II I'm Bryan man. Well, I'm Democrat
and III vote for any the Democratic Ma
Honai Convention selects. The state will be car
ried for that man too /
Then the Governor explained that he had come
70 New York 20 consult with his counsel, E G.
Justice. and had not attended any of the hearings
After an interview with the reporters and a talk
with Mr.. Justice. Governor Glenn hurried TO the
POLO Grounds 10 the ball game. Before he
went he said: Il wish you'd print in your local
papers here. sir, that / did not spend the Sunday
a. Coney Island. some Of the newspapers said.
Nent 10 church. sir ana took a 1ap-al tle MOTEL
just rode down 10 Coney Island and back did
lot attend the an1usenents that day"
The taking Of testimony before w A Mont
eonery. special master appointed by Judge Pritch-
arc, Of the United States Circuit Court of North
Narolina, dragged along yesterday in the offices
u lhe Southern Railway, at No 80 Broadway
John IL Daley. superintendent of transportation Of
eae Illinois Central Railway. the star witness for
ehe Southern. was cross-exarnined by Mr. Justice
yesterday For half an hour Mr.. Justice ham