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mat by our Lords words the care OF
| the whole church was committed to 81.
Peter, Apostle, and prince OF all the
Apostles" John xxi. II; Luke xxi, q:
Aath- xvi I7:19 Glib. ", ep. XXX; Ryder
catholic Controversy
Now. dear Bishop. all your argu-
ments I'D SO far have been a failure
Your side OF the scales jump high up
IN the air whilst my side goes down.
loaded with an array Of weighty texts
CT Holy Scripture Your efforts 10
/ snghten them by adducing the Fathers
OF the church against them. have fail
eel Holy Scripture could not furnish
you the least word in favor Of Eceiesia
Anglicana. the Fathers have nothing
10 do with you, they are with me as
well as Scripture and history is with
NE and sincerely 7 pity your position.
| do not doubt that you may be able
TO trace through the past centuries oc-
easional resistance offered to the papal
supremacy. but this would be the unfair
and ungrateful task Of the Pathfinder.
who has no eye except for tho evil
qualities OF a person or a thing. But
sensible people do NOT mind them as
they are aware that nothing Is so good
As not 10 elicit some kind of criticism.
In my opinion you should have tried to
prove the right of such resistance, for
instance Of Henry VIII and his Par
lament 10 break away from Rome.
Rome was certainly in possession, was
recognized for so many centuries. ana
universally recognized Where Is the
| right TO this revolutiong
| II you had never mentioned the An
glican Orders. ] would certainly not
have spoken about them In mention
/ Ing this subject again you seem to re-
dnce my argument TO the value an
act acquires By the intention of the
agent This may seem to certain peo-
PIE something like hair-splitting- Let
Us suppose q clergyman In baptizing
applies duly the water and the words.
but In his Intention he wishes to per-
form not Christss bat St. John the
/ Raptistss baptism. Would you pro-
nounee validity baptized the person
treated in this manner And. no doubt.
| you admit also, that there is difference
IN the effect of an ordination service
Il the party that conducts II, means to
ordain a minister Of the church accor-
ding to the notions that prevail of q
Catholic priest. an Anglican clergy
man. Lutheran. a Calvinist, or
sZwinglian minister, Mormon Elder or
Salvation Army officer.
II the said ordaining minister has the
notions and is satisfied for himself that
there is no difference between the min
Isters of these different denomina lions
as far as the power CT the holy orders
| is concerned. and Ii with such notion
he goes through your ritual or ours.
/ don't You think there would be flaw
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say, YOU Id
see me officbaIahg al st :
cathedral Except IN one case. A@Aa
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than in your supposlfion- As every
year some 4ooe converts CONE rom -
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members may Hnd lher -
their fathers or aIleSslols Al
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pension eo1nAof1ao.s iss-17-A-e -
. house chapel. and take over ln1
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ding to the IafhoIG me :.
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infallibility viii not hurt Us. II VIZ
only keep US from error ana lEaise, nI7I
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ton AFTER the Ha1eI = -