Los Angeles herald., 1907-04-03
HARTMAN CALLED
BY THE PRESIDENT
TEDDY INTIMATES FORMER
IS A LIAR
Railroad Magnate Comes Back with a
Counter Attack, and Details Make
interesting Reading for
the Public
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get down here within a few days and
take either lunch or dinner with me?'
1.-The trouble spoke Of had reference
to the bolt against Higgins-that is, in
reality against Mr. Hartman and Mr.
Harrimans friend, Gov. Odell.
"a reference to the files of the New
York papers at that time will show that
it was very extensive bolt against Mr..
Higgins on the ground that Governor
Odell had nominated him and he had in
some matters favored Mr.. Hartman
overmuch, neither ground in my judg-
ment, being tenable.
"Mr. Harriman's backing of Governor
Odell and extreme willingness that he
showed by securing Higgins election
was common notoriety and mentioned
in all the papers, notably in the New
York Sun. On october II Mr.. Harri-
man wrote me:
I am giving a very large part of
my time to correcting the trouble here
and intend to do so if any effort on my
part can accomplish -. 1 will take
occasion the first of next week to run
down to see you and think by that time
conditions will have improved
Il wrote Mr.. Hartman the following
letter which 1 give in full:
Reply to Hartman
October IA, 1904.-My dear Mr.. Har-
riman: A suggestion has come to me in
a roundabout way that you do not
think 1t wise to come on to see me in
these closing weeks of the campaign,
but that you are reluctant to refuse, in
asmuch as 1 have asked you. Now, my
dear sir, you and I are practical men
and you are upon the ground and know
the conditions better than 1 do.
" IF you think there is any danger Of
your visit to me causing trouble or if
you think there is nothing special
should be informed about or no matter
in which 1 could give aid, why, of
course, give up the visit for the time
being and then in a few weeks hence,
before l write my message, I shall get
you to come down to discuss certain
government matters not connected with
the combination.'
You will see that this letter was alb
solutely incompatible with any theory
that l was asking Mr.. Hartman to
come down to see me in my own inter-
quest of any kind for help from him.
On the contrary, all 1 was concerned
with in seeing him was to know if 1
could be of help in securing the election
OF Mr.. Higgins-a man for whom /
had had the highest respect and who I
believe would be, as in fact, has been,
a most admirable governor.
Moreover, the following letter will
show that Mr.. Hartman did not have
in his mind any idea of my asking him
TO collect money, and that, on the con-
trary, what he was concerned with in
connection with my letter to him was
the allusion 1 made to the fact that I
would like to see him before 1 wrote
my message to discuss certain govern
ment matters not connected with the
campaign.
Letter from Hartman
His letter which is of November 4,
runs:
"'Dear Mr.. President: 1 have had a
telephone talk with Mr.. Loeb and re-
quested him to give you a message from
me. I drew his attention to the last
paragraph of your letter to me of Octo-
ber IA last and explained that, of course,
l did not want to make trip to Wash
ington unless it should be necessary;
that the only matter I knew of which
had any apprehension and which
might be referred to in your coming
message to congress is that regarding
Interstate commerce, and what the at
titude of the railroads should be to-
ward it.
I have communications from many
conservative people in the west. ask
ing me to take the matter up, they haV-
ing information as to what you pro-
fn in
subject, and l am very apprehensive
about it.
"'Mr. Loeb stated that that part of
the message could be sent to me- and
/ hope he will do so. I sincerely be-
lieve 1t would be best for all interests
that no reference be made to the sub
ject and, in any event, if referred to
i'm such a way as not to bring about
increased agitation. 1t is, as you well
know, the conservative element and
the one on which we all rely, which is
the most seldom heard from
This letter to me was in answer to
one from me which reads as follows:
Presidents Letter
Strictly personal.
November 80, 1904-My dear Mr..
| Hartman: Mr.. Loeb tells me that you
called me today on the telephone and
Iecdlltu my letleI 10 you OF october IA,
in which / spoke to you of q desire of
seeing you before sending my message,
I as l wanted to go over certain matters.
and you added that you heard that /
had referred to the interstate com
merce commission; that you regretted
this and wished l had left 1t out.
I'm writing to you / had i'm view
certain matters connected with cur
rency legislation, and had not thought
of discussing railroad matters with
| you. However, IL 1t had occurred to
me l would have been delighted to do
so, but If you remember when you were
down here both you and We're SO in
terested in certain Of the New York
political developments that / barely, II
at all, touched on governmental mat
| ters.
LAS regards what 1 said in my mes
sage about interstate commerce COM
mission, while / say / should have
been delighted 10 go over 1t with you, ]
also must frankly say my mind was
definitely made up.
Certain revelations connected with
the investigation OF the beef trust
| caused me 10 write the paragraph IL