The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-08-02
FISH STIRRED HARTMAN UP
As TO WHICH or THEM owns the
MORE ILLINOIS CENTRAL.


WtU-N WIN WIZ WV
parentIy Came Near saying About MIR.
Eish MIR. Fish Ia Vote Against 4. y.
fight, which has been smouldering since Mr..
Hartman got the upper hand in November.
1905, and put his W man in as president
Of the Illinois Central in place of Mr.. Fish.
hls2ed up in fine style yesterday. Ii prom
ises to he almost as prominently before
the public eye from now on until the meeting
~ the stockholders Of the Illinois Central
on October 10 as il was in the period be-
tween the insurance investigation which
broke up the close friendship formerly
existing between the two men and the
directors messing at which Mr.. Fish was
deposed.
Yesterday Mr.. Fish stirred up things in a
way that ended in his calling Mr.. Hartman
' a liar. Mr.. Fish first sent out . statement
about the Illinois Central in which he called
attention to ths smallness Of MIR. Harri-
mans stock holdings in comparison with his
own, and sold that while he did not intend
10 enter into an active campaign for re-
election to the presidency he had received
from stockholders a large number Of I'M
solicited proxies and would be on hand at
the meeting to vote them in addition TO his
cEn stock and the stock of his close assoc
GATES IN the company.
When Mr.. Hartman was leaving the
office Of the Union Pacific Railroad Com
rany yesterday afternoon he had not yet
seen the statement.
As he approached the reporters who were
whiting for him az the door he shook his
head and said jocularly, presumably in
reference 10 some Of the interviews pub
'shed lately and credited to him:
Il am not going to say any foolish things
today"
Have you seen this statement about your
holdings Of Illinois Central?" he wa asked.
Don't talk to me about the Illinois Cen
raj" he answered, all my interest is in
Union Pacific. I'm turning all my atten-
non 20 making that a good thing-I mean"
he added with laugh. keeping II a good
Thing"
But it's = statement 10y MIR. Fish, he
was told
A. this Mr.. Hartman showed more in
crest. and as he glanced through the state
ment his laughing manner disappeared and
he grew more serious.
Il am the largest stakeholder in Illinois
Central" he said emphatically, and al
WAYS have been ever since | went into it,"
You mean counting the holdings Of the
Union Pacific and Of your friends. don't
yos. Mr.. Hartmann
Never mind what I mean. I own more
shares han Mr.. Fish. several times over,
and he knows it. o
He saws you own only 1870 shares"
He has said a lot of things lately that
weren't-well. that weren't just right
And with that Mr.. Hartman, who had
been talking on the elevator and in the
street, disappeared down the subway.
At Mr.. Fish's office in the National Park
Bank Building there were a hundred or
20 copies Of the evening papers on a desk
and his secretary was busy cutting this
statement out Of them preparatory to
sending it 10 stockholders Of the company
who had written to Mr.. Fish. II wal in
answer to letters enclosing proxies and
asking about his attitude on the Illinois
central matter that Mr.. Fish made his
statement.
Il have nothing to add to my state
msnt." Mr.. Fish said now.
Have you heard what Mr.. Hartman
-aid about it," he was asked.
No, | haven't. l don't care what he
laid. II you a to. though. you can
tell me"
well. he said that he had been the largest
stakeholder in Illinois Central ever sinos
he got into it and that he owned several
times as many shares as you and that you
anew IT," q
Al that Mr.. Fish grew scarlet. He
'eane1 forward in his chair and said:
IF ne said that he lies and you can print
that | said So"
me following is the statement by Dir.
llsh which started the controversy:
Within the last few days quite a number
+ stockholders Of the Illinois Central Railroad !
'ompany have sent ms their proxies to vote
NJ the next annual meeting. to be held in
Chicago on Wednesday. October 10. Others
nave written 10 me on the subject. Being
unable 10 reply promptly to each. / take this
opportunity 10 say what my position Is:
On November 7. 1900. the several directors
"ith" company held shares therein as follows: |