The Birmingham age-herald., 1907-05-21
MORE TESTIMONY IN BROWNSVILLE CASE Texas Policemen Say Negroes
 Did the Shooting FORAKER GETS THEM MIXED Fernandez Denies Telling About Two Negro Soldiers Chasing Him
 the Night of the
FORAKER GETS THEM MIXED

Washington, May 20.-Three members of tho Brownsville, Tex, police force were questioned today n the investigation being conducted by the Senate committee on military affairs. All testified concerning the incidents attending the Brownsville affray, and all became somewhat confused under ross-examnatlon by Senator For sl<er, when he called attention to dis crepancies between their stories today and those told on the stand on a previous occasion.
 Policeman Fernandez testified that he heard the shooting and as he ran down town from his home he was summoned to 1 the Tillman saloon, where he found the bartender lying dead. He gave 1t as his | opinion that the man had been killed by negro soldiers. He said he had seen no soldiers that night as most of the shoot Senator Fora5er called attention to the testimony before the citizens committee in Brownsville two days after the af- fray when Fernandez told a story of hay ing been chased by two negro soldiers. who fired several shots at him. He denied that he had given such testimony. and as result Senator Foraker gave him a very uncomfortable hour, and told him that he would want him back on the stand at another time.
 Saw Negroes Shoot.
 Macedonia Ramirez, another policeman who claimed not to understand English well enough to get along without an in- terpreter became somewhat entanglcd
 sl,o rt,,. reported the proceedings before the citi- gems committee and before Assistant At torney General Purdy. The other wit ness was Policeman Caldon, who testi- fled that he heard shooting and that the discharged cartridges found in the streets were of the kind used by the negro sol dlers.
 Mace Donio Remirez testified that he saw the negro soldiers shooting at Lieu tenant Dominguez, and he also had a mar row escape. While running from the soldiers inc claims his hat was shot off his head, and the hat is in evidence, showing that it had been perforated by a bullet of some kind. When the soldiers began firing at Dominguez he heard one of them say:
 There goes one. Is it soldier? If rot give him he'll" Inasmueh as all ques- tions had to be put to Ramirez through an interpreter and his answers translat ted from the Spanish, this distinct recollec- ton of a remark which must have been made In English caused some surprise among members of the committee. Sem ator Oyerman immediately put the wit ness to a test by repeating the remark in English and asking the witness to do the same. Ramirez did so, after fash ion, and explained through the inter preter that he could understand English fairly well, but had difficulty in carrying on a conversation He then described in detail his retreat from the point where the shooting was going on.
 Comparison of English.
 When Senator Foraker began the cross examination he announced that he would dispense with tine services of the inter preter He began asking questions in English and demanded that the witness answer them In the same language. The