The Birmingham age-herald. [volume] (Birmingham, Ala.) 1902-1950, 1907-03-19

and again Mr.. Delmas interrupted with
an objection.
IF the district attorney persists in put
ting the question in a form which the
court has plainly intmated in the past
is Objectionable, l cannot rule until he
completes it," remarked Justice Fitzger-
aid.
Mr. Jerome did not persist. He turned
to DR.. Hammond and said:
WAS Thaw Suffering from brain
storm?'
II am willing to accept that definition
WAS it also maniacal furore, a form
of insanity, he had?'
'Maniaeal furore is not a form of in
sanity, it is an incident"
Did you say what form of insanity
Harry x. Thaw was suffering FROM"
Il said / did not know"
was it Oppressive mania?'
81 don't know
Was it paranoia?'
II don't know
WAS it transtory mania?
"Transitory mania is not form of in
sanity, it is a phase
WAS Harry X Thaw sane just before
he shot and killed Stanford White?"
II don't believe he was.
WAS he sane right after he shot STAN
ford White?'
II don't believe he was
Would he ever recover"
L don't know
What is your opinion?"
II have none.'
How long did you say you had made
a study of mental diseases?"
Twenty years"
How many cases have you seen?'
II don't know"
ManlacaI Furor.
In case of n,aniacal furor," asked
Mr. Jerome, lis it not common for the
patient to go into a long sleep and forget
all about it?'
Sometimes answered the. witness.
rs it not always the case?"
Is it not always the case"'
Ever know a case otherwdss?"
Yes
you also know the case of Doody.
don't you-Daniel Doody?"
Yes"
Mr.. Dooley?" queried Mr. Delmas.
Not this time" said Mr.. Jerome.
'Doody"
Doctor. did you testify in the case of
the people against Doody?" asked Mr..
Jerome.
Yes
Ibid you testify that Doody was suf-
fering from paresis and that that was
disease which was progressive and in
curable?"
Mr.. Demas objected.
II am ready to show said Mr.. Je-
rome, that Doody went to an asylum
and soon came out cured
Justice Fitzgerald sustained the objec-
ton and Mr.. Delmas objected to the dis
trict attorneys way of trying to get facts
illegally before the jury.
Have you studied Thaws letter in evil
dence here?" asked District Attorney Je-
rome.
Yes
Gentle Scratches.
did you notice any gentle scratches?'
II did not object when the learned dis
trict attorney was examining the other
experts" broke in Mr.. Delmas, "and
it took him five days. There are now
seven to be examined, and if they are
to be examined for five days each day,
They will not be-" interrupted Mr..
Jerome,
II think we are on fair way to it,
sail Mr.. Delmas as he sat down.
Mr. Jerome by several questions tried
to induce DIR. Hammond to classify
Thaw's insanity.
1--WE laymen have an idea" he said,
chat you experts are great on classical
ton. If you can tell us what sort of
insanity Harry X. Thaw had perhaps we
may get somewhere. Can you tell us
what kind of insanity he had?"
"If you want to know what kind of
insanity 1 cannot replied the witness.
Or. White Testifies.
To Mr.. Delmas on redirect examination
DR.. Hammond said there among
scientific men no generally accepted
terms of classification. He was excused
and DR.. White, superintendent of the
government hospital for the insane at
Washington, was called.
DR.. White said he had carefully stud
tad rpd
by District Attorney Jerome and on it
he gave his opinion that Thaw when he
shot and killed Stanford White, did not
know the nature or quality of his act,
and did not know that the act was
wrong.
On crGss-examination Mr.. Jerome asked
the witness if he thought Thaw had any
knowledge at all of his acts on the Mad
ison Square garden.
IT think he had a certain knowledge,
yes SIR ''He knew he was walking to-
ward Stanford White with loaded
pistol
"A certain knowledge"
What sort of insanity was he suffer-
ing FROM"
II am not prepared to say"
THAT is ALL
On direct examination DR.. White
said that certain forms of insanity were
to what one might be doing.
what sort of knowledge is that
called?" asked Mr. Demas.
Insane knowledge"
DR.. White said insane knowledge might
differ a great deal from sane knowledge,
or it might differ but little.
DR.. JeIiffe.
DR.. Smith Ely Jelffe, a professor at the
Columbia University Medical school and
an editor and author of medical topics
followed DR.. White on the stand. He said
lie had at times been an expert for the
district attorneys office in New York
and Washington. He answered in re-
Spouse to Mr.. Jeromes hypothetical ques-
ton that he did not believe Thaw knew
the nature or quality of his act or that
the act was wrong
What kind of insanity did he haye?"
asked Mr.. Jerome.
II don't know answered the DOCTOR
did he know he had a revolver in his
hand when he walked toward Stanford
| White?'
He was insane and the knowledge he
| had was insane knowledge as
what kind of insane knowledge%
II don't know"
Did he have any insance knowledge
| at that timer
| Il think so.''
And when he nut that revolver under