The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-11-10

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first place, I informed one Of the formers
crew that 1 should ask for r-emeasurenent In
case she won, and he expressed no surprise
or dlsapproval. The third race wB sailed
In Manhasset's weather and she nnished
second, to CapaiCum's fourth, thus wtnning
by two points. Immediately after this
race, In a perfectly friendly talk with Mr..
Corey who sailed ManhassetD I explained
my position before even notifying the
committee hat l intended to protest. Mr..
Corey assured me Of his willingness to u b
INIT 10 the remeasurement, or measure
ment rather, a his boat, 40 far As l could
learn, had never been actually measured,
since her designer was also measurer OF
the club under whose cOlOrs she sailed. and
he evidently assumed that she a been
built according to his plans.
Il informed Mr.. Corey that ! had been
sailing about thirty races a seasOn for
twelve years and had never made but three
protests in that time and hat l dieIiked
extremely 20 do 80 in this case, but that 1
felt that this was a most important event
and that owing TO It's prominence some Of
the absurdities OF our measurement rule
ought TO be made pretty plain, and that II
Manhasset did measure out. il should
certainly put a stop to the measurement OF
yachts by their own designers, something
against which | had been fighting for some
time. Mr.. Corey also assured me OF his
certainty that Mr.. Robbins would no more
want the cup II Manhasset we q OF legtti-
mately in the class than he would think
OF claiming a horserace II one Cf his horses
had been found to run under weight. or
counss he felt sure that che was in the class,
having received. as he said. the designers
most positive assurance that she was in
and well in. On having reached this
friendly understanding with Mr. Corey, |
handedtO the regatta committee the follow
ing letter:
NORFOLK. Va. Sept Is. 1907.
Chairman Regatta Committee
JdmcstoDn Exposition Yacht Races.
DEAR SIR ! desire to protest against the
awarding Of the Kings cup to the Manhasset
until the said boat has been measured by an
impartial measurer, this measurement to be
made without regard to designers certih-
cate and drawings. ~ stipulated in Rule XIX.
section ,. of your Yacht Racing Rules.
| am making this protest not because I
have any particular reason TO believe that
the Manhasset's measurement is not as
certified but because ] feel very strongly
that any winner of such an important trophy
AZ the Kings cup should be measured by
somebody other than her designer.
Yours very truly.
e. SHERMAN HoYT.
"The committee seemed to appreciate
my position i'm the matter. IA did the other
owners of q boats with whom the affair
was discussed. WAS told that Nanhasset
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New York. 10 which l agreed. The naming
of the measurer was referred to me and |
refused to name any particular one, saying
thHat their own measurer, Mr.. BrOphy. or
any one else they desired would be suitable.
] also refused TO be present when Man
hasset was measured: preferTing to cave
IL entirely to them.
From the time Of the races to the present
| have made no comment against the
several remeasurements of the Manhasset
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her in the class. ! told both the chairman
of the regatta committee and Mr.. broDhy.
the measurer. that they were welcome TO do
anything which they legitimately could and
TO take advantage OF every latitude which
the laNity of the measurement rule permits.
Il Cheerfully submitted TO Capsicum's
remeasurement. although the "a hours
protest mentioned in The SUN article
was not forthcoming. which in the case OF
the boats in these races is not necessary
owinH to a clause published in the con
ditiOns for the races. Capsicum, as stated,
2l.5 50 when measured by the
man in h same way n when Man
hasset measured 22.20. | have two other
measurers' CertifiC ates for her. one giving
her rating as p 90. another n .92. and l
wonder what Manhasset' = rating would have
pee had she been measured by the same
measurer in the same way az when Capsi-
cum rated II 90.
Were il an automobile race in question
and the winner found over weight. or a
hOrseracp and the winner under weight.
it would hardly be called a teChnitality.
at is doubtful how much Manhassst's
sail, extra length. or too small dis
placement helped her. but on the other
and il must be remembered that Capsicum,
II measured beforehand by the same meas
uTeT, might have added some twenty
square feet to her sail area or carried
considerably more lead in her keel.
Another point which has been lost sight
Of is that Manhasset and Dorothy we're the
only boats in the fleet not built to scantling
ratio OF lead To displacement were at a
tremendous advantage in heavy weather.
Il sympathize with Mr.. Robbins in his
disappointment at losing a trophy which he
supposed he had won. but | hope the whole
affair. coming on top Of the AstOr cup
mixup last year, will impress itself upon
who are responsible for our meas
urement rule and bring a much needed
The present rule Of measurement is a
good one. 1t is developing a good type OF
Yacht, but unfortunately several times
there has been trouble about measurement
because the method Of obtaining the ratings
il somewhat complicated. IL is generally
tina three or four measurers
put their tapes over some one yacht
and each would give a different rating.
The difference might not be much, but
would at times be sufficient 20 put a yacht
Out OF the class. Measurers are now con-
some way to offset this trouble
A conference was held or Friday evening
NJ the New York Yacht Club and some re-
will be submitted at the next Atlantic
coast conference for the delegates Of the
clubs represented to consider.
A similar trouble occurred in the recent
races for the Canada cup, and the Rochester
ynchtsmen. defenders Of the cup were at
They had agreed to give TO the
Canadians lines of the Seneca, their yacht,
MIR. HerreshOf, who designed to Seneca,
to allow this. The trouble was
imicably settled and the yacht weighed
n order to find its displacement. and then
/ was found to exceed the limit Of the class
sail area was reduced to bring 1t in the
lass.
II has been minated that the Eleanor,
class Y boat, exceeds the % feet
limit, and there has been some talk
If a protest being filed against that yacht.
won the LIpton cup the emblem OF
he championship in Massachusetts waters,
md the cup which Sir Thomas Upton gave
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