The San Francisco call., 1907-06-16


street railway people to take that road
of and they not to build 1t. The sum
and substance of the matter was that
Green consented to employ him on the
basis of $4,000, and then Green sent
| the papers to him which he prepared
for the franchise. The franchise was
put up and il was allowed to lapse,
that is. owing to the fire, Parkside
people didn't take IT. So Ruef said, ne
said, Now I don't know Green,
and he sara you get that money
from him, because I will trust you
with it, and you pay It to me. so
told Green and Mr.. Douglass Watson
who was secretary of the COM
pany at that time. And Mr.. Green, either
one Of the two; no, Watson brought the
money over to me.
On what manner was that paid,
by check, coin or currency? Am cur
rency Brought the money over TO me,
and I gave it to my brother in law and
he put It in the safe, and think about
two months after that I paid him
$4,000.
Q.-Paid who?. A-Ruef.
Q.-Two months after that? A.
Two or three months after that.
Q.-After the fire! Ayes, sir.
Q.-How did you give it to him? A.
Currency.
Q.-And why did you adopt that
method of payment? Ale asked for
1T in that way
Q.-Said he wanted you to bring it to
Q.-Were you police commissioner at
that time? A.-No.
Q.-You were appointed afterward?
A-Yes, sir.
Q-Who is this brother in law who
put it in the safe? At. L. Hender-
son.
Q.-The remaining $4,000 was never
paid to him? A.-No.
Q.-Why? Ave have 1t still in
the safe.
Q.-waiting for the franchise to go
through? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And I suppose if we had permit
ted the board OF supervisors since
we have been holding the club, or said
to be, to pass the franchise, you would
have paid that $4,000 to Ruef, would
you? A.-Yes, sir.
Dwell, Mr.. Aleck Morrison tried
pretty hard to get me to let it go
through the other day, did you know
that? Al knew he had been there.
o.-Why didn't you come and help
US try to convict this man before he
confessed, that is, before he pleaded
guilty? Al went away owing to a
death in my family and wasn't here.
Q.-But you were here as a police
commissioners for q long time after this
investigation started and you knew
We were trying to stamp out corruption
and accusing the chief of police and
Indicting him and indicting Ruef and
he was claiming nothing against him;
French extortion cases weren't true;
why didn't you, as good citizen, give
US this information: help to get rid of
those scandalous affairs? Al realize
should have done so, but. as I say,
have had a great deal of sickness In my
family.
Q-would you have told the truth
about it before Ruef pleaded guilty?
Al would, Mr. Heney.
Odd Mr.. Crocker know anything
about this transaction? A.-Of my own
personal knowledge I could not tell
you
Q.-who else knew it besides you?
Al. E. Green.
Q.-Who else7 AIR. Watson and
]. NJ. o'Brien.
o.-You haven't been entirely frank?
Al have.
Q.-Have you told us who were pres
ent at the different meetings and about
the lunch at your house when O'Brien
and J. e. Green were there? Al
haven't come to that yet.
Q.-Was that after the $4,000 was
paid? A--Yes, sir
Q.-Go ahead and tell that now. A.
So Mr.. o'Brien and Mr.. Green. who were
managers of the company, they wanted
to change the franchise to Ruef over
Nineteenth instead of Twentieth,
and they wanted to meet him,
and he said, well, 1 will meet
you up at your house; you can
have Green and O'Brien there" Now,
that was right after the, fire that Green
and O'Brien wanted to meet Ruef, and
they met him, think am right, at my
house was the first time they met
Ruef
Q.-That was before the first pay
ment was nader A--No; after. They
met at my home and they wanted to
discuss the matter with him as TO the
franchise running over Nineteenth
as against Twentieth. He dis
cussed the thing quite thoroughly
The reason was because Nine
lied or graded: they could run 1t over
there more expeditiously than by grad
ing Twentieth avenue. and so he said,
Well. that thing, you can't get that
unless I get $4,000 In addition to put
it over that way"
Q.-Did he say that In the presence
OF Green and O'Brien7 Al can't say
that; but they were present though
were in the room. He said, IT will have
to tell those fellows that are going tc
make lot of money, and L have te
have some"
Q.-That meant $4,000, all told? A
Yes. sir. He then said to them after
or during that afternoon: Now. you
better employ me as the regular attor-
ney for this company" to which they
iaughingly made some remark-']
guess it would be cheaper to do it that
way than any other'.--and SO with that
the matter ended so far as running