New-York tribune., 1907-10-04
QUlGG EXPLAINS LOBBY.
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franchise account, and s7,45O, In the subway
special account In 1907. Taking up the latter
the first item was one Of $3.50, February :. 1907
AT that time the public service commission
bill was pending in Albany. Mr. WINS said. This
amount. Mr.. Qulgg assured him. was not spent
to oppose that bill.
The public service commission bill was not
opposed in Albany by tho Metropolitan Street
Railway interests in any way whatever. It was
promoted and assisted far as they had any
influence" was Mr. Quigg's astonishing state
mcnt
Up TO date this year. Mr Quigg went on, as
Mr.. WINS brought forth several more vouchers
he had received about $1,000. which had been
charged TO the subway special account. Much
OF this was owed to various persons: some
perhaps several thousand dollars-was stH on
hand
This money. he said was spent aboring with
the Bronx organizations.
And what gentlemen who appeared In that
behaif were retained by you and have been
paid or are about 20 be paid?" asked Mr. WINS
The work that I did In connection with II
vas done In association with Edward Fl HeaIv
and James L. Wells"
Was there committee Of one hundred
rorined Mr., Quigg?" asked Chairman Wilcox.
Yes, sir"
N''NNA a. SouI suSBeStOnE
Yes, sir"
Next Mr. WINS took up q Series % ,,o,,nhors
Tor money which had been charged 20 the nron-
erty and franchise account. These began IN DC
toper' l"-, with bill to the Interurban Street
railway Company for various items amounting
10 $40 ~. These Included telephone calls n
and from Albany. Other pills succeeding that
10 date carried items of expenses for trims 10
Albany and telegraph and telephone charges 10
ana irom Albany. Mr. Quigg volunteered that
from hotel bills he had found he was at AL
ba0y prior 10 any Of the records brought ont
by Mr.. WINS. His business at that time and
up 70 about the time when he became Admired
10 the bar was for consultation with one Tracy
Rodgers president of the Street Railway Asso-
clation, who looked after legislative affairs af-
tectng the members of that association or for
consultation with other counsel engaged on
legislative affairs. Sometimes Mr. ouigg ap-
peared before the Attorney General or the Com
troller. and generally did the business as we'll
as anybody could 1t generally came out right"
QUIGG'S SALARY RAISED.
In 1904 the bills began to be made o,it 10 the
Metropolitan Securities Company. In 1904 too
Mr.. Quiggs salary raised because he had
been admitted to the bar and could not afford to
work so cheapy. Indeed he testified that one
voucher indicated to him that he needed the
paying off old political debts. and needed all
the money he could accumulate. He remem-
bered bill 10 increase the membership OF the
State Railroad Commission from three 10 five
but felt sure that he never had any connection
with 1t, as he would have advised his people to
let the politicians attend to that themselves
Various expenditures in connection with the
million-name petition to the Rapid Transit
Board 10 favor none but the Ryan subway routes
brought this subject again to the fore Mr.
Quigg presented volume OF the petition in evi-
denee. This its first official use as before
IT was ready for presentation TO the Rapid Tran
sit Commission the merger had been effected
and the petitions usefulness gone 1t was signed
to large extent by women and school children
Special effort had been made, Mr. Quigg said.
to get signatures OF school children which
caused Chairman Wilcox TO inquire whether the
petition had been put into the public schools and
signed under the direction OF the teachers
Bills for expenses at Albany during the legisla-
tive session of 1905 drew from Mr.. Quigg the
admission that he frequently in the room of
Speaker Nixon. but an emphatic denial that he
did any lobbying there The testimony ran as
follows
Q.-What do you mean by lobbying? A.-weii 1t
is very broad term, and should like TO define it
Q.Ewell, dehne it exactly. Al should say that
q lobbyist was person who hung around a legis-
lature and open to any engagement In connec-
ton with It, in connection with the legislative busi
ness | do not consider that was a lobbyist at
Q.-Is that because you did not hang around the
lature at all. but occasionally, and from time to
time and an In connection With my general "a, employ
Q.-And did the same sort of thing that lobbyists
obbyss ES1 % f at an m 90 e se sfg5 OF n that
openly and without any denial whatever of my
Q.-Inyited members OF the LEGISLATURE to meet