New-York tribune., 1907-02-12
GLYNN HIS MORE TO SLY.
Part Of Examination Of Wotkins
Published at 1Ibanu.

Albany Feb li-Controllor Glynu talked further
to-day the stock transfer tax stamp case, in
which he held Yesterday that stamps had been de-
stroyed without adequate record of tho fact He
told Of = book having been taken by Charles NJ.
Watkins. ex-cbicf clerk in the stock transfer tax
bureau, from the Controller Once and of entries
made In one ot them whlla T. away from the
Office. r." said that while entries were made IN the
stamps account book of the destruction or
enough stamps 20 balance tie account Mr.. Wat
kins had told him that when the stamps were
burned he did NOT count them. No charges Of dis
honesty made bv Mr.. Glynu in come tioa with
this affair Hr is naIduS further investigation
Of It.
Tonight question and answer extracts from the
examination of Mr Watkins by Controller Glyrn
relative TO the removal Of books from the Control
lers offce. Some OF This testimony is appended;
Q.-Why lid you TAX. the books to New York At
all? A.-WgA. because was going 70 make
tam entries fer MT. Qunyle Of the stamps hand.
did not have time TO make them They vcrN in my
Q.-Why make entries for NJ Quavr. q, the
stamps on hand A,-Beoalse he had no record Of
Q.-why did YOU do It? Were YOU supposed 70
do II? We're you working FOR MI QuaHie Cr the
state state A.-Why no; | wasn't working for Nj.
,ts:. 9mThsse two books that arc talking about
f9rk, these two books were they provided by this
Q-And the state paid for them? A-Yes sir
QAnd nd they ~ contain entries that you made and
30 SaS hat ?fs % 9 s 70
gay the were made entirely for me. They might
Q.-Who else would want item: - Al i'1i5l DON'T
Q.--You represented the Controller down thore7
And The Controller wanted these nsures: they
Were made for the c2ntroller, and REPRESENTED
the stamps destroyed on December g. as appears in
That Mr.. Watkins did not actually kpou. a..
~ he mar fI,aD
OF stock transfer stamps DESTROYED urder bt 1t
recton on December -. hut arrived at the ya1,a
by taking the difference between tho ,iabt, a,q
ofedi' side or his books" and not by counting WAS
asserted tonight by Controller GIynn in AN srtord
ca statement IN reply to statements published to-
night an coming from tho two former controlIsrs
To-day, said MI. Glynu. Il took tbs, testimony
OF Frank Leland, who Admits seeing Che b,rnin,
Of stamps on December a. hut haa not mo Ieast
houon az TO their valGe. he further states tba,
he called the authorities attention 10 tho rovit,
OF the system and urged upon them the necassj,,
OF adopting the system used In Washington in the
printing aud destruction of stamps and Inoney
IHeSe suggestions never adontcd"
Replying Mr.. Kelsev's quoted Stat.r,or, th.,
The so-called "old stamps were useless having
pesn withdrawal from circulation, Mr.. Glynu said:
s HsRs s9 OF aHA taS stamps had ever been called All
bansed new stamps " viii e tho once & e
oompahg 4 pa @ tor That oiG stamps they had on hand
Old stamps were In circulation at the time OF he
exchange with the Manhattan Bank "
If what Nr. Wilson saws is true tbat tho 10
structIon Of stamps was lett to Quayle the system
Is ven more careless than have contanded for il
printers Slinlln9tine altogether resronsibility ON
the part OF the Controller in the converting ~ rrc
papeT INTO stamps representing millions or doiia-e
3oth MI Wilson and Mr. KELSEY talk as n The
only destruction OF stamps was that OF the oiS
ISSUE whereas n the course OF construction Of the
new issue " atkins records show that 1898 042 6s
worth OF stamps were destroyed and V-atLips od
nits that he can produce no witnesses or eyidcncs
out his owp that he destroyed the stamps |0@
Mr. Clvnu quoted al lapgtb t,a la,. -,
vised contract with the printer to show that tto
Controller had entire authority over the mar
facture and care Of the stamps
he denied that he was prepa ring 10 ask for
more employees, declaring that he Could n9n,,aga iga
the stock transfer bureau with the preSeot fnrceS
n slap at Mr.. Kelsey. 7 '''' az