The San Francisco call., 1907-06-02
No Money to Drumm

Q.-You were never asked to con-
tribute any money to Mr.. Drum for
any purpose? A.-No. sir. not a cent.
Q.-For any purpose that you know
of? A.-The first intimation I had was
what you have just given me.
Q.-What Interest does f. B. Ander-
son represent? A.-Well, he has few
shares of stock himself Doesn't repre-
sent any interest particularly except
that imagine In all large corporations
that are dealing with banks. so they
may be cognizant of business and con-
ditions. it is customary to request some
representative Of the bank to act as
director I think that is considered
good policy. so they will be cognizant
of what is going on and what happens
at directors meetings and they receive
all your reports.
Q.-But not what transpires outside
of directors meetings? Avery
thing is of record that happens, or
should be. and usually is.
Owe find some transactions of rec
ord that look perfectly innocent on
their faces that are not so innocent.
gotten up by people of very highly re-
spectable characters in so far as past
regulations are concerned, 1 regret to
say. You can't throw any light on it
at all? A--None whatever, Mr.. Heney
Juror was going to ask again that
question that Mr.. Heney asked, that we
have your positive assurance that you
do not know anything. directly or in
directly? A--Nothing whatever, ,di-
rectly or indirectly.
Odd you attend all the meetings
of the board of directors? A--when 1
was in town.
Q.-And was that most ot the tine2
A--Been away once or twice.
Q.-Did they turn over good deal
of important business to the executive
committee? A.-They transacted most
of the important business. 1 am sec
retary of the executive committee also.
Any business that was transacted was
transacted in my presence.
Q.-The matter of employment OF
Ruef or procuring his services never
came up before the executive commit
tee? A--No, sir.
Q.-You never knew until Just now
that Mr.. Ruef was employed? Al
never heard 1t intimated until Mr.. He
ney said he received a salary of $1,000;
that is the first heard of it No inti-
nation except general josh on the
streets.
Q.-You said something about SIS
900. $4,000. $4,000; what were you
speaking about? A-SaIaries were
paid by the Pacific gas, but the
officers Of the Pacific are off,
GERS in all other companies about
So or 40. and the only salaries re-
ceived by officers are received from the
Pacific.
Q.-And the San Francisco gas did
not pay those salaries? A-No. sir:
Pacific gas and electric There is a
salary paid to Mr.. Britton by the San
Francisco gas and electric company
$1,000; that was never disturbed; we in
tended to arrange, but since the fire
nothing was done about that Checks
were turned over by him to me and
were credited to the Pacific gas and
electric salary account. He didn't re-
ceive 1t. And that goes into the Pacific
gas. 1t appears on the books as SAL
airy to Mr.. Britton: 1t is indorsed In
blank and deposited to the Pacific gas
and electric, so the salary is that
$4,000.
o.-You always got it back, "a
Yes, sir.
Q.-The Hota1ing estate-has It any
stock In the gas company? A-Yes.
sir; we had and sold out our interest to
Halsey.
Q.-How long ago? A-About two
years ago. We still have stock in our
name, but under agreement to sell to
Halsey & Co. 1000 shares.