The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1907-03-07
Mentions Lunacy Commission.

Mr., Jerome, now. for the first time
| since the trial began. mentioned publicly
| The possibility of a suspension OF the
trial for the appointment Of a commission
I'VE have testimony here" said Mr.
Jerome, that this defendant was insane
In July. 1908, insane in November. 1908
insane April 4, 1905, and insane June 25
1906 Why does he no, clntlnue Insane
right down TO the present time f the
presumption Mr.. Demas cites is correct? :?
be suspended until the matter Of the de-
PENDANTS present state Of mind can be
! inquired Into?"
Mir. Deimas rose 10 reply
The question Of n suspension Of this
trial is not before your honor for deter
mination." he declared "The presump-
tlon which | have cited permits us 10
give the testimony which Is under dis
cussion.
The argument was long. the attorneys
taking, sides opposite 10 those they took
obtain from DR., Wagner testimony re-
garding conversations he had with Thaw
In the Tombs during the last five visits
he made TO him Mr.. Jerome argued that
while, as he claimed yesterday INSANITY
once established, is presumed 10 continue
until II is shown that the condition has
disappeared. In this case DR.. Wagner's
testimony was proof enough to overcome
the presumption. He said the experts
had testified that Thsw was insane az
periods from 1903 to 1905. The defense
he said. wished the Judge TO rule that for
three years Thaw was continuously in
sane.
But now. he said, after seven
lucid and able to advise his counsel"
II II was claimed that Thaw is insane
now; Tnr Z, Mr., Jerome said, it was only mat
and stopping the trial,
Delmas Is Sustained.
Justice Fitzgerald interrupted 10 saw
tnat the matter a commission was NOT
before him and that he was simply pass
ing on Mr. Delmas's objection.
Justice Fitzgerald read from decision
objection, which allowed Mrs. Thaw TO
proceed with her narrative.
sations with heT ee SON as 10 nGnser
ing. 1909. and Harrys departure for Eu
rope in the spring Of 1904.
He told me the girls name" said Mrs,
bad for her
Harry returned to Pittsburg. she said.
In November, 1904.
Did he speak to YOU again about the
young girl?' asked Mr., Deimas
There has been horrible scandal"
said Mrs. Thaw, "or at least they made
It out scandal. I remember my ex-
pressing my disapproval of his coming
home in the same ship with the girl. He
eXpiih,5ea explain a 1t All to me He was still OF
You have said nothing before about
ms wanting TO marry her." interrupted
Mr.. Delmas.
II must have forgotten it." replied Mrs.
Thaw. He told me In November 1909
;hat he wanted to marry her, but that
he had been frustrated -
Mrs. Thaw said that in February. 1905
She and Harry took n trip South
He then asked me TO come on to New
YORK and meet the young woman" con-
tjnued Mrs. Thaw. ''In March I did so
after meeting the young woman we
returned to the hotel and Harry asked
me II had any objection TO bis marry
Ing her,
Consented to the Marriage.
I told him 1t was not necessary for
me TO give my consent He said he did |
not want 10 do anything against nv
wishes. my
II said ! was perfectly willing. did |
afterward make one condition-not TO pre-
vent the marriage-but I told Harry 81 |
he married the girl and came 10 nv bouse
10 live here in the East her pasi life |
must be a closed book-her past life in 4
New York" "
I'VE will come 10 that presently in
terrupted Mr.. Delras.
I'VE arranged that the woman sbouIs
come TO Plttsburg and we arranged for
chaperonage, etc. When Harry came
home for the wedding he seemed 10 he
laborinS under great stress. and feared
that the wedding would he inter(orcJ
WIN by the young womans mother on
account OF the girls minority
Immediately after the recess OF lftaen
Mr. Demas announced his dl
rect examination OF Mrs Thaw was con
Guided. and Mr. Jerome began his cross
{ termination, Ta lima He asked Mrs. Thaw il
phnd death trustee under his will
MI. Delinas at once objected. This !
Is :,r1o nor proper cross examination. said ne
can hardly conceive that IL ia Tho pur
pose of the District Attorney to atternpt