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| CORRECT in your statement that the
/ Church of England was established by
law in 1884, for it had been established
ever since there had been an English
i nation, being one of the three estates
| of the realm, and Parliament had fire.
quently legislated concerning it.
/ Included in such legislation are the
Statutes g. Richard H., c. 8; Z, Ibid, C.
| II, ETC.. and the statutes of Praemunire
| under Richard II. and Henry ", etc.
J In 1892 Parliament had passed an act
| abolishing the appellate jurisdiction OF
/ the Bishop of Rome, investing 1t in the
archbishops, bishops and other ordi-
| naries of the Church of England And
| in 1881 an act of Parliament had aboi,
| ished the payment of inmates. II the
| Church of England had not been es-
| tablished by law previous to 1884, Par
| lament could not have passed acts in
| 1892 and 1881, and many acts before
that, in reference to the church and it's
/ government
1t is well to know, however, that the
| initiative was taken by the clergy OF
the Church of England in convocation
in 1881. when the King was petitioned
for an act of Parliament that inmates
be abolished and that if the Pope re-
sisted the operation of such an act En-
gland should withdraw from obedience
| to Rome.
Again, il a new church came into ex-
| istence in 1884, how was it that in 1870
| the Pope accommodated Elizabeth
and the English people by the buli
known as "Regnans in EXcelcis, by
which Elizabeth and her adherents
fro tIn Rod
Christi? If the Church of England
had been considered sect founded in
1884, how could the Queen and people
have been ''cut off" by the Bishop of
Rome in 1870? 1 will not go into the
matter of the Popes declaration that
he deprived her of her Kingdom and
all dominion" and absolved her sub
iects from allegiance.
Up to 1870 those in England VINO
maintained an allegiance to Rome were
accustomed to attend the Church OF
England services. 1t was after this
papal bull that they ceased to do So
(See State Trials /, 242; and The Lord
Coke. His Speech and Charge, 1607)
Again. that Parliament had no idea
of Iegislating Church into existence
is shown by the language Of the act
of 1884, which in clause Is reads as
follows: Provided always that this
act nor anything or things therein con-
tanned shall be hereafter interpreted or
expcunded that your grace, your no.
bles and subjects intend by the same
to decline or vary from the congrega-
ton of Christs Church concerning the
very articles of the Catholic faith OF
Christendom, or in any other tnlnSs
declared by Holy Scripture and the
Word of God necessary for your ana
their salvations, but only to make an
ordinance by policies necessary and
convenient to repress vice, and for good
conservation of this realm in peace,
unity and tranquility from rap1ne and
spoil, ensuing much the old ancient
customs of this realm in that behalf:
not minding to seek for any reilef, sue
cours or remedies for any worldly
things and human laws, i'll any cause
O. ecessity, but in this realm at the
hands of your highness, your heirs ana
successors, kings of this realm, Wnith
have, and ought to have, an lmperlal
power and authority in the same, and
not obliged in any worldly causes to
any other superior.
Such in brief are the historical facts
AS to the theological view, l am aware
that there can be no discussion on that.
You hold that without the sanction or
the Pope and his express authorization
there can be ordained no valid minis |
try and so according to your idea no
part of the Church Catholic. I main |
tain with equal sincerity that there |
was time when Catholic bishops |
were not subject to the Bishop of
Rome, as Greek bishops are not at the
present time, and as they have never |
been. AS st. Paul was not subject to |
ST. Peter, whom he at one time with |
stood because he twas to be blamed
(Gal H., III, so bishops Of the early |
church frequently withstood the Bishop |
of Rome
For many centuries bishops in En-
gland were not subject to Rome. |
Blackstone says in his commentary: |
1.-The ancient British Church was a
stranger to the Bishop of Rome and
all his pretended authority" He also
statas-Com. Blk. 4, p. 105, C. SHAT
the Bishop of Rome at the time of the
Norman conquest took that opportunity
of establishing his spiritual encroach-
ments and was even permitted to do
so by the policy of the Conqueror in
order more effectually to humble the
Saxon clergy. BldChSlUIlS also StdleS7
Blk. 8, p. 6, C. 5-that "the civil and
canon laws were first imported into
England" in ISL, when appeals to
Rome were allowed in ecclesiastical
causes. But even then the Church and
the Parliament struggled against
these encroachments till finally they |
were thrown off by the actions of the
Church and Parliament extending over
many years and during many reigns
Your theological position / respect
and am quite aware that no historical
facts which / could present could af-
feet your view Of the matter in the
least But the Church of England has
always appealed to history and on that
take my stand. Not as citing parallel
cases, but as illustrating the process
Of change, let me close with the fol-
lowing:
The joint action of convocation and
Parliament changed the relationship Of
The Church of England with Rome; the
Joint action of the Church and the char
ter of the civil authority in Hawaii
about the change of relation