The San Francisco call., 1907-03-07
"Wickedest Manin NewY ork, !"
Said ThaW, Accusing White
Elder Mrs. Thaw Tells of Sons Actions

NEW YORK. March 6.-There were
many empty seats in the courtroom
today when the Thaw trial was begun
Thaw again came to court laden with
letters which continue to come TO him
from all quarters OF the globe. Most
OF the letters are in praise or the de-
fendant, and he manifestly takes great
satisfaction in reading them
Dr. Wagner. who has been under cross
called 70 the stand and District Attorney Jerome
piled him with questions regarding Thaw's VIII
Mrs. William Thaw was called to the stand
immediately after court assembled Tor the alter,
noon session Clerk Penny hsd called the roLi
OF the jury when Delmas whispered 10 him. ana
in e loud voice the clerk commanded.
Mis- William Thaw to the witness stand G.
Mrs Thaw appeared a moment later ene
was still dressed IN the same black trock 10
which she appeared the first day Of the uiSl. IA.
walked to tho witness chair She stopped AT
the OF the jury box and the court ersr
tered lie oath and as Mrs Thaw took her place
4 IN the chair the court crier announced
Harriet Copeiy Thaw
Harry Thaw was all interest
) BE sat facing his mother and seemed sx-
tremely nervous He rested his cheek On nls
hand ana bit his nails.
TELLS OF SONS ACTS
Mn. Thaw repeated her name in response
10 a question by Mr.. Delmss. speaking II
tone 50 low as hardly 70 be heard. 80.
lleImaE
Mrs Thaw said that in the fan ana winter
Of 1903 she living In Pittsburg her son
Harry came home she ssio, On M 'ns sefogs 1 his
brother Josiah's wedding.
During the time your son Harry was Sat at
his conditionl" asked DelmHs.
I certainly did" replied Mrs. Thaw
''W1 you please describe what took place
The day when he hrst came 10 the ooor
there was a look OF observation-disclosures on Ms
W,rs Tba~'s fwo sons other than the de
fendant, Edward and Josiah, sat Just Dehlno
Ibid the Impression OF a change in your son
grow on youg' asked Delmas -. =.
yes HIS room was next TO mine. OFTEN In
! the night / heard smotbered sobs Sometimes
when / was awake late at night would SO
light under his door and often found him SIT
ting up at 3 O'Clock in the morning. -.
'sHe told me he could not sleep. and there
was no use going TO bed ! asSea nm 2. & 30 s1ll I'M
me what the matter was DE SAID II was ="
possible to tell me his story
did be at any time In answer 70 your eues-
tions freely tell you the story =.
he told me freely one night when III
sisted on oiectea TO the repetiton Of the story
until DelmEs stated that the time 80 AZ Mnieli 81
II was told was covered by the testimony %
the slienists as a period when nav s19 .nd ~
sane. Then Jerome wfthdreW ms oDJee.ions s ~ ~
allowed the witness give the purport OF the
conversation
THAW TOLD HER OF WHITE
.He told me the story" said Mrs Thaw,
s.but not definitely BE said his troubles were
s1 Nev yo1 probsblv the wickedest in
New York He said 1t had ruined MS hie anu anu
be never could be happy That was al eouiu
get from. him for week ,..-,aa a. -
/ he were working with great problem re ~as ,
yerv fond Of music and often he would leave the
/ table and go into the parlof ss.s..
Mrs. Thaw as she told Of her sons conolnoa
IT wouid hear loud music upon the piano,
which would gradually grow softer ana a soIlsl-
And he would come back 70 the table as Il notn-
J g.. bo6 hennpnad
..Tbe I't wesf before Thanksgiving understood
did not know the girls name -. eiq 9sS aS
know that his condition nao something 70 90
win young girl he Rsq % toiG ,, me t aDSe' Se onT
later that ] found out that this man had ruined
3. afFer found his condition was due TO some.
thing which had. been done 10 young girl 1
asked him why be should allow his NE 10 oe
Harry said the girl had been neglected by
her mother or that she had no mother, or the
thing would not have happened. lie salq mere mere
was still chance for her 10 be gooo- can
s.on that last conversation Harry and I were
alone"
WITNESS BREAKS DOWN
Here Mrs. Thaw's voice failed her face
4 Justice Fitzgerald asked II she could proceed
She nodded but remained silent
To relieve the tense situation Justice Fltz-
gerald ordered that all OF Mrs. Thaw's tesn-
monv uD 10 this time be read TO the jury by the
stenographer. Mrs Tbaws voice had been SC
low that her words could not be heard distinctly
/ even by the jury.
at was the first Thanksgiving In our large
and beautiful new church" said Mrs. Thav-
when she was able TO resume. Harry and
went TO church. and IL 50 crowded we had
m ST vel hack under the gallery. When the
choir was singing Kipling's 'RecessionaI
heard Harry sob. and looking around saw
tears falling upon the Programme de was
trembling all over. but quoted him.
As we drove home / asked him how be had
come to forget himself be said this dreadful
thing had suddenly come over him"
Mrs. Thaw told OF DR.. Bingaman having pre-
scrited 3 nerve tonic for her son.
when did you first learn who the young
woman wasff asked Mr.. Delmas.
Il cannot recall exactly; think it was in
the spring OF 1904
do you recall the conversations you had with
your at that timer
CLASH BETWEEN LAWYERS
Jerome objected on the ground that there was
nothing IN the evidence TO show that Thaw was
insane at that time. The conversations. be de-