The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-03-06
CLASH BETWEEN
JUDGE AND JEROME
District Attorney Is Dis
respectful and Judge
Calls Him Down.
JEROME ALSO
INSULTS DELMAS
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Refers to His Objection as a
"Sturnp Speech h''-Delmas Re-
torts by Saying Language
Of the District At
torney Is Of
II fensive.


aroused in to-day's session of the trial
OF Harry h Thaw by the announce
ment that Mrs. William Thaw, the
mother of the defendant would take
the witness stand, was quickly duIled |
by the continued cross-eXaminaticn of |
Dr. Charles g. Wagner one of the |
hlienists OF the defense, by District |
Attorney Jerome. DR. Wagner was on
the stand the entire day and when
adjournment until tomorrow was an
1iounced the district attorney seemed
TO have much ground yet to cover with
the expert
Mrs. Thaw was present in the wit
,1ess-room to-day, waiting to be called;
but she may not be reached before late
tomorrow or Thursday morning
While decidedly dull in the matter
of the testimony ELECTED in the wit
ness, to-day's session was made notable
by clash between District Attorney
Jerome and Justice Fitzgerald at the
climax of which the prosecuting off,
Ger refused point-blank to cite to the
court the authorities upon which he
prcdicated argument.
Mr.. Jerome was requested by the pre-
siding judge TO submit to him whatever
authorities he had upon the subject.
Will Not Submit Authorities.
~ have such high respect for the
courts of this jurisdiction retorted Mr..
Jerome, THAT / will not submit authori-
ties on a question Of the law which is so
elemental in character and nron which
the authorities are so abundant that
must presume the learned court knows
of them"
with flushed face and sharp ran of
No tt,rn nj cat Id
district attorney did not submit the a,,-
thorities the court would assume that
lie did not know of any. Mr.. jerome did
not submit the authorities. and Justice
Fitzgerald ruled in favor of the defense
on the point at issne. which. briefly
stated. was the question as to whether
the State, on cross-examination, should
he allowed to go further with an expert
witness than counsel for the defense was
allowed to go upon direct examination.
Jerome Defies Judge.
District Attorney Jerome was as de-
5lant in his tone as he was in the words
he uttered. Justlce Fitzgerald raped
several times with his gavel, twisted
about inpatiently In his chair and II
was plainly with much effort that he
retained his judicial consposure.
The storm broke in the midst of an
extremely dull morning session, when
some of the spectators in the court
room were actually nodding In theis
chairs. During the unusual scene be-
tween the judge and Mr.. Jerome, how
ever. there was hush In the room
which gave emphasis to each word
uttered. either from the bench or by
the prosecuting attorney. The Incl
dent began with an objection inter
posed by Mr.. Delmas, for the defense
TO question to DR.. Wagner by Mr.
Jerome. The district attorney wantci
the witness to repeat certain conver-
sations he had with Thaw in the
Tombs. Mr.. Delmas protested that II:
had not been allowed to go into these
conversations on direct. examination
lIc Vas proceeding at some length t
state the position of the defense whel
Mr.. Jerome interrupted with the re
mark that the argument did not cal
''for stump speech. Mr.. Delma
protested against this Offensive Ian
Euage" by the district attorney jus
tice Fitzgerald intcrposed in the dis
cussion, and Mr.. Delmas was soon los
10 view because of the turn affair
took.
Thaw Is Insane, Says Jerome.
During the course of his argumer
The district attorney placed himself O
record by laying that the legal al
sumption before tho court to-day |
that Harry *. Thaw is insane He de
clared tho alienists for the defens
have shown Thaw to have been insan
as late as September 22d last, and !
the absence of proof to the contrar
the assumption is that he remain
insane.
Justice Fitzgerald declared that II,
present Jury only has to do with tn
question of Thaw's sanity or insanit
ON the night that he shot and kjlle
Stanford White,
DIR. Wagner was allowed to give n
conversations with Thaw during tn
period that he believed the defendar
10 be of unsound mind. He said Tha
remembered having approached an
having shot White.
He protested, however, that he ha
not intended at any time to kill tt
man but wanted to have him legal
punished.
Those Long Latin Names.
Much OF the day was given over
technical questions concerning II
which Thaw was subjected In II
Tombs by Doctors Wagner and Evar
During some of the long explanation
offered by the alienist Mr., Jeron
walked restlesslY to and fro, and on
sat down near the newspaper me
and entered into conversation wi
them.
In answering some of the qlestlo
propounded by the district attorne
Or, Wagner said lie was compelled
use long names.
60 ahead" said the prosecutor"
The expert proceeded. The oitlci
etenographer squirmed, and most of t
Jurors laughed heartily.
II caa't help It," explained DIR. Wa
ner. as If in apology for the longe
names he uttered u know YOU cam
said Mr. Jerome. you go right abe
whenever you fael like it,"