The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-06-13

sYNeFai times during the cross-eXaml-
hatlon Richardson said to Orchard, Lets
take the lid off this"
Talk With Pettibone.
Orchard said he talked with Pettibone
ABOUT the Goddard and Gabbert affairs in
the basement of the Pettibone store
rms basement was a repair shop where
Pettibone and his employees often worked
wasn't it, asked Richardson.
And there was nothing suspicious about
There was tin box which didn't look
good to me-
We'll, what was in the tin box? Let's
take the lid off that too
You seem to have a lid on the brain"
chlmed in Senator Borah. but Richard
son did not heed the sally.
Orchard said he did not know all that
was in the box. He had seen some of the
thlngs that had gone into it. Here the
matter was dropped.
Orchard said he made the Goddard and
Gabbert bombs in Petitioners basement.
Did you get the materials out of the
tin box?' asked Richardson.
No. Pettibone had the powder buried
in his yard
Pettibone In Salt Lake.
While he was making the second bomb.
Orchard said PettibOne was in Salt Lake
The bomb attempts on Judges Goddard
ana Gabbert were within a few days of
each other Orchard said he talked with
Pettibone about the Gabbert bomb, which
eventually killed a man named Valley
instead OF the intended victim, but he had
not talked with any of the federation
leaders regarding the Goddard bomb. He
was acting under the instructions of sew
eral months before Ito get the two
judges.
The Goddard bomb was buried at the
judges gate. 1t never went off.
These attempts falling, Orchard said he
went TO work on Sherman Bell. Mrs. Pet
had 90 u~sa.N r.raxl nF
chard was stopping at the Pettibone
house. He said Pettibone went with him
several times to the vicinity of Bells
home. They drove in rig. The team
was one of several brought to Denver
from Cripple Creek after the union stores
had been looted by the militia. They had
been used in the mining country to de-
liver relief goods TO the families of the
men on strike. One of the team was a
gray mare, Orchard said. and the other
was a used up black"
They weren't fit to drive as a team"
said Orchard THE gray mare might
have been all right. but she was too con-
spicuOus- Haywood told us to buy an
other horse and a good buggy to use in
the Sherman Bell affair
Hadn't Haywood received an offer of
$3.50 for the team you say was all used
up?"
TT was something over $500 for the
horses, harness and wagon
Horse for Murderer.
''You were going to kill Sherman Bell
you bought a horse to help you i'm the
task and yet you went away in two
weeks timer
Yes"
And you didn't kill Ben?"
No
Orchard said he never got an oppor-
tunity. He saw Bell once or twice on
the porch.
''Why didn't you shoot him?''
Because it was dark where he sat and
was light where l had TO go to shoot
Several times l tried to approach the
house. but there We're some little dogs
who would start barking"
ION these occasions Pettihone was wait
ing for you down the street in the bug
gv?'
YES. sir
Orchard said Meyer ordered him to let
up on Sherman Bell. The president of the
federation had just returned from Cali
fOTnia and was in tll-health- He said he
wanted nothing done in Denver while he
was there, as he did not care to run the
risk Of being put in Jail again. Meyer
had been in bad health ever since he was
released from Jail at Telluride
And he continues in ill-health so far
as YOU know" added Richardson
He was the last time l saw him,
said the witness
Mover said ii would be a good time to
do some ''outside work"
He told me to get Johnny Neville
said Orchard
Offered to Murder Neville.
Neville had told him he knew about the
Independence depot and had demanded
8. 200 Meyer said he was afraid of Ne
VILE and thought it would be safe if he
was out of the way. / told Meyer /
would do it."
But YOU didn't do it?'
No Neville died a natural death
But you told Meyer you got him with
pOison?"
''Moyer had not had anything at all
with planning the Independence station
affair, did hep
mo, sir He knew nothing about Ii.
Court here took the luncheon recess I'M
til 1:30 p. m.
After the recess Richardson's crOss-eX-
animation of Orchard led down at last to
the time Orchard first started out on the
mission which eventually resulted in the
death of former Governor Steunenberg,
for whose murder Haywood is on trial.
1T was at the conference with Meyer.
Haywood and PettibOne, after Meyers re-
turn from California in August. 1895, that
the matter was first mentioned. Orchard
said Mover had just finished telling him
to get rid of Johnny Neville when Hay
wood brought up the killing of Steunen-
berg.
Haywood said il would be good thing
to get rid of Steunenberg," Orchard re-
lated. He said we could then go back