Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1907-04-14

might have something to say about whether
he had been dropped by Thaw. but he had
| nothing to say about 1t. and the best a
| persistent interrogation could get was:
Everything remains in statu quo After
| thinking the situation over at his office, Mr..
Delmas said:
1T is not true that 1 have retired from
the case. Neither Is it true that have been
| asked to retire There is not a word of
| truth in the story that ] had a stormy in
| terview In the TOmbs today. On the con-
trary, 1 had a very pleasant talk with Mr..
Thaw today part of which was in the pres
ence Of Mrs. Thaw. his wife"
Mr.. Hartridge's Attitude.
Mr.. Hartridge was questioned at length
| this afternoon concerning the attitude of
| the Thaw family toward the lawyers. He
passed over a statement that he had been
practically ignored by Harry Thaw and his
| wife for some time. Mr.. Hartridge Is said
to be the favorite of Mrs. William Thaw.
He intimated that he could not see why
| Thaw needed so many lawyers between now
| and a second trial.
| AS to Mr.. Delmas. Mr.. Hartridge said that
| he had retained the western orator. He
added. In response to a question that If he
| had anything to do with a second trial
| there would be no defense of ''dementia
| Americana
| He was asked to explain the wide differ
| ence In the opening speech of Lawyer
| Gleason. in which he said he would chow
| hereditary tendency to insanity in the Thaw
| family. and the summing up made by Mr..
Delmas. who made an appeal to the unwrit-
| ten law with little disguise and no argu-
| ment on insanity.
Explanation From Hartridge.
| Mr.. Hartridge, as counsel of record for
Thaw made this explanation:
| about four days before the opening of
the trial Lawyer Gleason came with note
from Thaw saying that he was to make
| the opening speech.
| AT that time l had examined a number
| of witnesses and mapped out a plan of
| defense. Mr.. Gleason made his speech with
| out consulting me. After that-after he had
put DR.. Wiley on the stand-we went back
| to the witnesses that I had selected, and
| they were followed in the original order
prepared by me.
| LAS to the summing up by Mr.. Delmas.
| You remember that he produced a note
| from Mr.. Thaw. saying that he was in
charge of the case. After that l was not
| consulted about his closing speech. and we
did not know what he was going to say"
| The Insanity Plea.
| Friends of Mr. Delmas said today that he
left out any reference to sanity and avoid
| ed the question of insanity much pos
| sible at the request Of the Thaw family.
| 1t was the Countess of Yarmouth, 1t was
| said. who particularly anxious that
| nothing should be said about faint of
| insanity in the Thaw family. This was
communicated to Mr. DelmaS- and he not
only obeyed instructions. but took his
| shoulders the responsibility of cutting out
| that phase of the case. Mr.. Hartridge said
| he knew nothing of it.
| Speaking of Mr.. Delmas, although he re-
| fused to comment on his work. Mr.. Hart
| ridge said that so far as Mr.. Delmas was
| concerned he had finished the job he was
| retained to do. He did not know whether
| Mr.. Delmas would continue in the case. He
| said that after looking up Mr.. Delmas rec
| ord he had retained him: but Mr.. Delmas
| was nrst suggested by Henry Clay McPke,
| who came here from San Francisco to out
| line Mr.. Delmas' abilities. After that Mr.
| Delmas was retained after he had made
two trips across the continent.
| From several sources came reports today
| that there will be litigation before the fees
| of the Thaw lawyers are finally settled.
Mrs. Thaw Perturbed.
! When young Mrs. Thaw came out of the
| Tombs today she looked as if she had been
having a crying SPELL She denied that she
was in such condition that she had been
| ordered out of the city by her physician.
| She said that she intended to stay here so
| that she could be near her husband. Cues
! toned bout Mr. Delmas being dropped she
said: who told you that 1t cannot be dis
| cusSed."
After that Lawyer Peabody saw Thaw.
! He made a statement in which he said he
! was authorized by Thaw to announce there
had been no change in his lawyers.
| Jurors Talk Freely.
The jurors talked freely today about their
| troubles, worries and trials in the jury
room. while they deliberated for forty
| seven hours on the question of Thaw's
| guilt or innocence. Altogether 1t was a
pretty strenuous session. as the reports in
dica ted Immediately after the jury had been
| discharged. Each juror made speech out
| lining his views Juror Dennee. who finally
| voted for acquittal on the ground of inSan-
| ity, was the orator of the crowd. The Jurors
unite In saying that Delmas silver
| tongue rang like brass compared with Den
nee; One juror said today that he felt he
| could spend another forty-seven hours be-
| ing locked up just to hear Dennee again.
| There was one unanimous vote IN the
| jury room. Twenty-four hours had been
| spent in discussion and argument. One of
| the jurors got UP and said he had an
| important proposition to advance. He
| looked around solemnly. Had he some
thing new to put forth, something they
| had forgot all about?
II move that somebody supply us with
| COTS he said.
An enthusiastic vote was taken at once,
| the result being twelve votes for cots,
| with a request to Justice Fitzgerald. The
! request was sent to the court, who sent
| back word that he had dilige ntly looked up
| all the laws on the subject, Nut could find
nothing that would justify him in getting
| cots.
The Policeman's Talk.
| One Of the jurors said that when they
| were on the way to the hotel a policeman
came up to three of them and said that
he wanted to make a confidential remark.
| 1t was to the effect that Thaw's father
was a member of a secret society, and
| that ought to be kept in mind.
One of the jurors remarked when there
| was nothing better to talk about that Dis
] trict Attorney Jerome had been too sarcas-
| tic with some of the defense's witnesses.
| Then up rose several jurors. including one
| who was voting for acquittal. and declared
that Mr.. Jerome had been very fair, that
| the witnesses were treated well, and that
| he evidently did his best to get the jurors
the benefit of all the Information they were
| entitled to.