The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-02-06
ALFRED LEE 7HAN
ON WITNESS STAND
CONTINUED IRON First phgc)

counsel VINO sat nearest nllli. az tiHIcb
! Thnw could not altogether supprcss tho
suggestion OF " grin at the kcenncss Of
some OF Mr.. .Jcromes questions and the
subtle humorS they so thinly concealed.
Thaw Worries.
But before the close Of the day Thnw
seemed to worry. lie bit his fnger-nals
and seemed anxious for the Doctors or
deal to end. His attorneys appeared a
bit puzzled at first. but evidently deter
mined to give tho district attorney tho
widest liberty.
1t WAS ut the close OF MIR. Jerome's
cross examination Of DR.. Wiley that an
attempt was made TO Introduce testimony
tending To show the strain Of insanity
Bald to have existed in certain branches
Of the Thaw family.
Richmond Witness.
Alfred Lee Thnw, forty-threc years OF
age, n resident OF Richmond, Va, was
next called to the Witness stand
Are you related to the defendant,
Harry x. Thnw?" asked Mr.. Gleason
~ am"
what is the rclatIon?'.
my father and his father wcrc frat
COUSINS
when did your father dep
October %. 1885"
Where was your father or have you
any means of knowing where he was
when he dicd?"
II object" interrupted District Attorney
Jerome. "rhc question is Irrelevant
and immaterial"
Justice Fitzgerald sustained Mr. Je-
rome's objection. ttR u
Mr. Gleason argcud the point He said
1t was intended TO show.a collateral condi-
ton Of Thaw's rcatives--the relatives de-
scended from common ancestry. Alfred
Ice Thaw is n man of piercing dark
eyes. His forehead Is contracted in
continual frown. His black mustache Is
closely trimmed and black hair brushed
well back from the forehead.
Ancestor Insane.
Mr. Gleason said he wanted 10 prove
the hereditary phase OF Thaw's insanity
and could trace 1t back to n common
ancestry with the WITNESSES father. It was
not necessary or contemplated by the
law that 1t should be proved a mans
father or grandfather were insane to cs-
tabllsh hercdity.
District Attorney Jerome argued in
reply that the witness WAS not COM
pctent person 20 testify as to INSANITY
in the family OF the. defendant 1t was
not necessary, he said, to go back to
the grandfather and mother of the
witness and the defendant to reach COM
branches or the family four separate
stocks had been blended with the birth
OF the witness and the defendant
Asylum. Mo- Proof.
Y infer fsom the opening address OF
they expect to prove by this witness
that his father died in an asylum or
som. som. retreat for the insane The fact
Orupf Df liis fuEanitv.. The law 6npS
not recognize it. The fact that the
man dies In an asylum like that con-
Quoted by the eminent DIR. Wiley, who
was on the stand to-day. for witness,
does not PROVE he was insane"
Justice Fitzgerald said he felt con-
strained to adhere 70 his decision SUB
taining the district attorneys objection
for the present. He would take the
authorities cited BY Thaw's counsel
under consideration. He thought a
closer relative than the witness should
be offered as a witness.
asylum for the insane?" asked Mir.
Gleason.
Jerome Objects.
Mr.. jerome again objected to the
question.
cord ana at this stage OF the trial.
sustain the objecticn.r ruled Justice
Fitzgerald. The witness was then ex-
cused for the present
ness BENJAMIN Boman, who testified
4 that in sv4 ne had Il conversation with
the defendant. lie was about to tell
what the conversation was. when Mr..
Jerome interrupted. declaring a con-
versation so far back was not relevant
or material. Justice Fitzgerald again
called upon Thawis attorneys tor cita-
tons OF authorities covering the In
PRODUCTION Of testimony of the charac-
ter postponed.
I'VE did not expect to reach this wit
a., .INf.. ~ ~
''and have not my authorities here"
Again Objects.
Justice Fitzgerald sustained Mr.. Je.
ronie's objections, and tho witness step:
ped aside. ~
Or. Bingamn, of PIttsbulrg,, who has
been family physician OF the Thaw.
for thirty years, tookthe stand and tes
titled that he had known Harry ThaN
him once Tor Sta iNitus dance. he
seemed to be a lad Eof highly nervou.
temperament and slept badly at night
said the witness
Mr. Jerome's cross-cxamlnation was
brief. s.
"How old was the defendant when ht
had @t.s S.. Vitus DANCE !se;,, lie asked
"That is all, doctor.''' &
Family Physician
Ftl., the family physician Of the Cop
leys, Mrs. William Thaw, the prisoner
mother. having been a Miss Copley, was
The last witness of the day. He was
called to testify as to the mental cen.
d,uon of John Ross.6a cousin Of Harry
r'hnw. when Mr., Jerome objected. Jus
ticc Fitzgerald held that until the, de
fcnse's authorities on the introduction
of testimony MS toacollateral insanity
were presented, hetthought 1t Nest te
lule out all such testimony for tbs
time being. 1t was&at this point thai
adjournment until Tomorrow vas or
Cered Isl IGsf;5
The order for tho exclusion Of all
witnesses, which ion yesterday drove
Mrs. Harry sThawtsand Mrs William
Thaw from the courtroom, remainet
In force to-day with the result that
tho second row OF four chairs Just bacl,
Of the prisoner, which heretofore hay,
been reserved for his family. had beer
turned over TO those whose business
gave them the privilege of attending
the trial. 5