New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1907-02-08

about Il
occasion other than you have stated? Al don't
remember anything more
Q;-Did you state anything that Mr. Whitee had
stupor you had fallen into? Ayes. I asked him
Q.-You asked Mr. White? A;-Yes and he asked
TO ask him anything about 1t, that he had
not hurt me a Bit and that 1 must not worry
Q.|What was the effect of this statement of
youEs upon Mr. Thaw? Ale was very excited
get up and walk up and down the room minute
and then come and SIT down ana say ON; LOO
On, God"' and bite his nails Ike that and keep
Q|sobbing? Ayes it was not Ike crying it
was deep sob RE kept saving &c &c on! Go on
Tell me the whole thing, all about It, ~, 1,,o
A-Why, we stayed there all night. We sat up
o-Tou sat up ali night in this room? AYes.,
Q.-What was done during that night what qua
and walked up and down. and every now and then
! he would come and ask me some particular thlhs
Q@Asked you about the details of this occur
asked me a great many questions about mamma.
.Q.-Win you kindly state to the jury in what
would be better? Ale tried to find out whether
ma po kse~ ang94s fS9s fre ao maR S
people. that Mr.. White very noble man, very
about that and then Mr. Thaw made his nina
by these letters and he said that II was not really
her fault, only I'm the beginning she never should
have taken any flowers and presents and that she
ought TO have known better than to let me 80 out
with an old married man.
NOT HER FAULT, THAW SAID
Q.-After you had stated this occurrence, madam
and the reason why YOU could not accept Mr.
break it on? Not that agnr But that night
he told mo that any decent person who heard that
story would say it was not my fault, that what
eyer happened was not my fault; that ! was sim,
ply poor uni3TIGn9te Httle glF ana Ih@I In ne GI
trary. he said that 1 must always remember he
pened. he would always be my friend.
,,Q.-Now, after that evening and night had passed
flld ara1A Mr. -
Q.-When did you next see him? A.-Tho next
Q.-The next day? Am fact him every
Q.-And when was It that any recurrence or any
reference was made TO these events that you nave
mentioned? A.-Continudlly. all the time
O. am asking rather as TO any propPfa' no lot
ne renewed ms proposal OF hlIElsse u AZ s'l. 20
you? A--Later on, II was, maybe two months
be blamed for anything that had happened, that it
was not my fault ana he was going 70 marry me
Odd You accede to his request at that time. or
reason for declining? Al did
Q-WM you please state to the jury that con
that. that even if didn't marry him. the friends
or StatG5d WINE would 9d ANY aiW S v1d be ays
talked about because people in the theatre were
that they all suspected IT more or less. and some
Of the people OF the theatre even had missed us,
and / told him. and said IL would not be right FOR
dance-I had been Inland as soon as I got able 20
dance I would go back TO the theatre
HAD SEVERAL QUARRELs
Q-Was there any mention at that time when
yea gave him the reasons why you should not
ters? A"Yes. we had several quarrels. When I
said that everybody aid these things he said II was
everybody did not do these things. He said that
he had two lovely sisters, and lovely mother. and
that some women did these things. put as rule
they did not He said # was dirty lie.
Q.-That is when you were speaking TO him. Of
what had been told you by stanford White on that
Q-I mean was there anything said in connection
with your declining his Offer OF marriage to
how It would afect him TO marry you. with his
family and with his social position? Ayes; said
II would not be gbod thing that had been on the
stage for one thing, and had been To great many
apartments with stanford White for another tAiing
thing I said II he hai met me In Ptts6urg be
fore came 10 New York 1t might have been al
a.-what ala lie say to all these reasons Of yours;
could not care FOR anybody else and could not pos
ruined. he coId not marry anybody, ana ne SAID
ne never would mary any one Td eg he
- - 49,. ,,arris5 10 Mr. rhaw give him a
history Of your life up the time met Stanford
Qw yoq please state to the iHTy what b s. {eg
said TO hm @Do aDy t onsstons
'i o Vel state it as nearly In narrative form as
y YOU Ga9 re "a, born and what You did up to the time
you mot Stanford White Al tod him Tat /
and my father was employed in Pittsburg. and
when Fisbaq gn' n S' we had lived there about
two years. and during that time my father had
Avenue Allegheny. ana my mother had to 20 to
court often account Of the condition Of my
understand what Il was all about. but remember
she went to court very often and after while
al me 4bbS,y se There was man AMI b,s
g 1S o,,e neonIe had room ana some friends OF
theirs and they came and dad another room, and
there were several other people but IL did not pay
Mamma was always worried about the rent. ana
some times we would not have enough TO eat. And
live. and at that time we aid not have any money
lived in Beech End. Pittsburg Then my mother
borrowed some money and rented house in SoutA
Highland avenue. and let some rooms in that be
cause my brother and mother and myself all had
TO sleep I'm room. Then. after awhile when that
eI a "P tbI I Tie starifg @aIc AND nIf ~ si EN- ~
Mr. Holman came to our rescue and paid this rent
that mamma owed Then mamma made up her
mind that she would leave PttsbUTg and 60 10
Philadelphia and that she would get position at
designing, because she very artistic and verV
clever. and my brother and myself 10 my
aunt, In the country. to live. We STAYED there for
some time. My mother went on 10 Philadelphia.
And then she sent for us. and we came back TO
O.1Not necessarily now. ANTo an Old family
that had knCgn my mother ana her people and
they put us on the train and gave the conductor
INSTRUCTIONS that we were To DO put off At Phila-
Q..You are speaking OF your brother and your
l was about fifteen, or fourteen and half. Then
we travelled all alone ana had lot OF trouble
wanted to put ii or. and We cried and he finally
Q.-Keep what? A-1he cat Then when -, got
TO Phiiadelphi9 my mother and another lady met
in boarding house ana she tried veT5 mari I'' y,
get as both work, but she couiu MOI They wanted
ana had experience. but She could not Get
US place In Philadelphia. And al KngtiI mn
Ptsburg, and we moved to 80 While we we WeT T
there we met Mr. Barry, who artist ana
he wanted To paint picture of me.
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