The Montgomery advertiser., 1907-11-30
opinion was based on his personal ob- servance of the defendant.

servance of the defendant.
 Edward W. Mclean. son of John R. Mclean, of this city and Cincinnati. who was a reporter on local news paper in December last, saw Mrs. Brad ley after she shot Senator Brown but noticed nothing about her to suggest that she was insane. She was rational and talked coherently. She did not appear especially pale or unusual in any way.
 Rev. David H. Utter. pastor of the Unitarian Church at Denver. Colo. who was in Salt Lake City In November. 1905, exchanging puipits with min ister of that place, was called to the stand and asked to testify concerning a conversation he had with Mrs Brad ley. He said he went to see the de- fendantj because of her trouble. The defense objected to the reception of his testimony on the ground that if he was called to contradict the de- fendant's testimony. the government would have to submit specific state- ments to him and could not examine him concerning his talk with Mrs. Bradley. The court called counsel on both sides to the bench and after a long conference with them, the attorneys retired to an ante-room for a further conference. During the intermission in the proceedings. Mrs. Bradley in- tently eyed pr. Utter who avoided look ing at her.
 pr. Utter on stand.
 When counsel returned Dr. Utter was placed on the stand and in reply to a question said that on the occasion of the conversation, Mrs. Bradley told him she believed Mir. Brown would marry her.
 T expressed the opinion" said the witness. that he never would" This was somewhat long conversation and the burden of it had been on my heart. to encourage her to give up the idea of marrying Arthur Brown. I said that woman was at great disadvan- tage In suing for the love Of a man and that she would fail to accomplish her object when she appeared anxious for marriage. On all grounds. urged her to give up what she was attempt ing but she pleaded for her children, saying 1t was right and he ought to be made to do it."
 During this testimony. Mrs. BrardIey lowered her head.
 'She said," continued the witness. that when 1t came to test and al gun was pointed at Arthur Brown. that he would accede and marry her. I do not remember her exact words. She said Arthur Brown was a coward at heart and if gun was pointed at him and he was told he must marry her would do so. I told her 1 didn't believe Ar thur Brown was a coward.
 T said he ought never to be urged. There should be no compulsion ever used. You will lose all your influence if you do.'"
 What did she say to that?" asked Judge Powers.
 'T don't remember exactly."
 Now, did you not say in the course of that conversation that you would not do that. would your" and she re- piled. Of course noty"
 Yes" said Dr. Utter. T said Sup pose he calls your blum, what then? You would not shoot?'" H
 "'oh, mo- was her answer." ! Dr. Utter said she did not intend to do this herself '"1t might have been 1Ier ,rother oS her father, or anybody who was to, bring about this compui- sion. the witness added. He. however. had the idea that Mrs. Bradley herself would do 1t.
 She was under a tremendous obses- sion." continued Dr. Utter; twas all most unhinged; and I felt that she might undertake to threaten Brown. :"
 A Name for children.
 And her thought" asked Judge Powers. "as she expressed during your conversation. was giving to her chil- dren name in the world?"
 That was 1t exactly" said Dr. Utter and he added that Mrs. Bradley did not appear viciously melted. but al- ways pleaded that she loved Brown.
 There was not apparently a thought of injuring him. but that just under this obsession she must justify those children" said the witness.
 Asked to describe what he meant by ohsession. pr. Utter. facing the jury and raising his voice. said it was Pos session from the outside" and he H.