The Montgomery advertiser., 1907-04-04
HARRY THAW
 IS CONFIDENT

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 the District Attorneys hypothetical [ question at the trial.
 'On similar writings, then, you reach | the conclusion that. at one time he was sane at another time insaner said Mir. Hartridge.
 Dr. Diefendorf said he would stand on his answers. He admitted he had | never personally examined Thaw but thought him to be suffering from par anoia.
 | the witness for twenty minutes or moro in a semi-secret fashion. Suddenly District Attorney Jerome broke the quiet by saying in a loud voice: T must object to the questions be- ing put to this witness by the commits sion. They are not proper cross-exam- ination and if you will pardon my frankness in saying so, you are trying to puS this gentleman in a dishonor- | able position-of swearing to one thing at one time and another thing at an- other time. You must remember he swore upon one set of facts at the trial
 and upon different set of facts to- day."
 Haftridge's Hot Reply. If this witness is in dishonorable position" interrupted Mir. Hartridge. he put himself in it. That's all there is to it."
 The cross-examination of Dr. Dief- endorf was shortly concluded. The defense asked permission to call | two more witnesses-Dr. Charles G. Wagner of Binghamton. N. Y, and Dr. William A. White of Washington, D. c. Both physicians testified for Thaw at his trial pr. Wagner first took the stand.
 Dr. Wagner declared that through out the trial Thaw had acted and con- versed in an entirely rational manner
 and fully understood the nature of lthe proceedings against him. o ncross examination District Jer- ome showed Wagner the suggestions Thaw made to Mir. Delmas for his | summing up and asked:
 Assuming these not to have been written as a joke, but sin good faith. by man on trial for his life, Is 1t your
 opinion they are product of a sound and normal mind?"
 There are many excellent sugges- tions among those made by Thaw," re- piled the doctor.
 Dr. Wagner told the commission he | had testified at the trial that Thaw was insane when he shot and killed Stanford White and was insane for two l months afterward in the Tombs. Are you prepared. doctor, in view l of all you know of this defendant, his family history, etc., to say that he is | a sane man todayT' asked Mir. Jerome.
 T am not here to state that posi- I tively,' said Dr. Wagner. From my
 conversation with him this morning
 and from my intercourse with him | during the trial, I am forced to say
 that l was unable to discover any,
 thing to warrant the opinion that he
 Is not sane"
 MT. Jerome's efforts to secure a more | Inc | No Supernatural Agency. Dr. Wagner repeated to the com-
 mission some of his more recent con- | versations with Thaw. When he first
 saw Thaw in the Tombs the prisoner | said he had acted as an agent of Prov
 idence in despatching Stanford White. | T talked with him on that subject
 this morning." continued Dr. Wagner
 and asked him if he still thought there | was any supernatural agency in the killing of Stanford White. He said no, he was convinced there was not. | asked him if he thought his present
 condition was serious. He said he | thought it had been serious but he thought his attorneys mad made such progress at the trial that his position
 was not so serious as at first. q asked MT. Thaw if he had made
 any of the trial arrangements with | his counsel. He said he had made def- | lHlte arrangements WlLn some or them | but had not felt that it was necessary | to do so with his personal friends | among the attorneys. Taken alto- 1 gether. his talk was intelligent, his an- | swers responsive and he showed a clear grasp of the entire situation. The grasp of man who is now sane2" suggested District Attorney Jerome.
 T have already stated, MT. Jerome | that I was unable to discover any | thing upon which to base an opinion that he is not sane. I would require | longer time than I have had for | me to become entirely convinced that
 Mf. Thaw was completely recovered. Speaking of his advice to counsel"
 said MT. Jerome, "are you aware of
 the fact that this defendant once stu
 died law"
 Once Studied Law Yes, he told me he had taken up
 the study of law at Harvard" Attorney Hartridge tried to draw
 more definite answer from Dr. Wag-
 ner as to Thaw's present condition. but he replied:
 q have not enough evidence before
 me to state absolutely beyond all ques-
 ton, as a scientific man, that he has
 entirely recovered" 5.
 But as a scientific man you have
 not discovered anything during the
 more than two months of this trial to enable you to say he Is at present in- sane have you?"
 No sir. I have not"
 MT. Hartridge then stated that pr.
 White was ready to take the stand if
 the commission required his testimony,
 but Messrs Mcclure and Olney of the
 commission said 1t would be unneces-
 sary.
 The commission then went into ex-
 ecutive session for the final mental and
 physical examinations of Thaw.
 Even the lawyers on both sides were
 barred from this last hearing pr.
 Putzel, a member of the commission,
 it was announced, would make what
 ever physical examination was deemed