The San Francisco call., 1907-06-16
of Testimony Parside Bribery Inquiry Is Laid Bare

but I didn't know good deal OF talk
about it; didn't know whether actual
ly so or not.
Q.-You never saw It pass7 A.-No.
OIL never did yet You never have
yet? A-No.
Q.-Suppose you have pretty strong
belief on it though? Aft newspaper
reports are to be believed.
Q.-They are not all to be believed.
Whom did Green tell you he talked with
In regard to it before he agreed to pay
this s3o.ooo7 Al think with Judge
Cope.
Q.-And did Green tell you. or rather
did Green agree to the additional
$4,000 that Ruef wanted? Ale did;
he made this remark, he said: Well.
we are being held up, I suppose well
have to do It."
Q.-You considered that money was
being extorted from you? A.-Abso-
lutely.
Q.-A1l of It? A-Yes, sir.
Dwell, it would have freed the
city of that sort of thing II gou gem
tlemen, with your prominence. your
standing, integrity, honesty had come
forward to the district attorney and
said, We can give you perfect case;
you needn't go worrying around trying
to catch supervisors" Ayes, sir.
Q.-You didn't do It? Al regret 1t.
AS l said, Mr.. Heney, I was In great
distress for over a year; my wife has
been sick; had her operated on; she
isn't well yet, and my child has been
sick and died and all those things
have just completely upset me-
Q.-Who asked you to go on the po-
lice commission? A.-Schmitz-
Q.-Did you have talk with Ruef
before Schmitz asked you? A.-No.
Q.-You didn't know then Ruef rec
commended the appointment to Schmitz!
Al did not The mayor sent for me
one day and he said, Umbsen, would
like to have you go on the police COM
mission, and 1 said: 1 don't want 1t,
Well, he said, why not? said
wouldn't be bothered with It, or some
thing like that; 1t would take too much
time. He said: We are trying to get
some men that will run the thing
right without graft and have not been
able to get them. We are going to
run the thing differently now, and we
want good men on the board. It is
your duty as citizen Of San Fran
cisco to get behind us, and especially
the city being in the stricken condi-
tion 1t is. said: On those lines I will
take it.
Q.-was Dinan chief when you went
in there7 A--Yes, sir.
Q.-You thought he was a good man
to keep chief? Al did not.
Q.-There was movement some lit
tie time ago. just before these mem
fessed, or shortly after we started
these Investigations. there was q move
ment to remove Dinan long after Dinan
was indicted, did you vote to remove
him? Al was the one that wanted
to remove him. and had Dinan In the
room adjoining the room where the
commissioners sat and / said to him. /
think that you ought to resign. also
met Mr.. Creswell at his office the same
day by appointment and wanted to get
Leahy down there. and Creswell and
talked the matter over. said: We
ought to get rid Of Dinan. He Is dis
grace to the department He said: I
am with you on this thing Let's get
Leahy down there. He comes down
with Mayor Schmitz, and we both told
Schmitz that we thought Dinan ought
to resign. He ought to be forced to
resign. We were in favor Of declaring
his place vacant. The mayor went away
Q.-What did he sayf Ale would
think the matter over and talk with
Dinan. / said no use keeping Dinan
there; no confidence In him; didn't
have and Creswell didn't have. II win
the thing fixed. That evening we
called in Dinan and told him we
thought-then Leahy said: Dinan is
not going to resign. He has had talk
with the mayor and he IL not going to
resign. / said to Dinan: think you
ought to get out; II would be decent
under the present circumstances to re-
sign. He said have made up my
mind. I won't resign. So have for
gotten now whether I made q motion
that his place be declared vacant
am not positive as to that. Had an
other meeting of the board
Q.-What did Leahy say therei A.
He was opposed to 1t, and Hagerty.
Q-Opposed to removing himf A.
Yes, sir. At another meeting Of the
board I had a resolution prepared so
as to have 1t spread on the minutes In
open meeting, I had resolution pre-
pared and asked <Creswel1 to second It.
told him wanted him to second It
He said: Better hold It over. think
the mayor will let Dinan out. / said
let's get the thing before the meetins
and discuss II. He said: mo, at the
next meeting"
So 1t seems that he understood the
mayor was willing that the chief should
be removed. At the next meeting he
came there and he said. II haven't seen
the mayor, but will at the next meet
ing'-by the next meeting. and at the
next meeting, he said, no. / don't think
1t will serve any purpose, only two OF
US, can't do anything. So I never at
tended another meeting Of the board
after that.
Q.-What talks did you have with the
mayor about the Parkside? Al never
discussed It with the mayor at all.
Q.-Never had any talk with him on
the subject? A.-No. 4
Odd Green tell you he had talked