New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1907-02-08

have mentioned? At might have been day or
Q;-Dld anything take place at that time any
oo1VeT F2a between you and Mr. Thaw? A-Yes;
this girl think We both asked her II she would
f excuse r., us while we talked for few moments.
Q,[-You asked her to retire? A-No she turned
Thaw asked me if I believed the stories that had
Q;-The stories you had told him while you were
seated "a on the trunk in the Hotel Navarro that
and I did
Mrs. Thaw was asked to repeat this CONVEX
sation with Thaw. and did SO. She said
Q.-Now. you must take the trouble, If you
have stated, but to repeat as nearly as you can
occasion, leaving out as always. ths names of the
Rarqes mat may have been involved IN the nattt
man had told meLthat he had aiken girl ana
Q;.Did you give him the name of the man VINO
Q-Yes A Then / told him the next one I had
heard gave him the name Of this man. won
Q-And what was that? A.-This story was that
he bs sd IN h0e and at one e n a f ran to
the assistance Of some one he had burst INTO o ,nS
with girl tied to bedpost and he was beating
her with horsewhip I told him this story; -,
told you that story? Al did.
HEARD THAw TOOK MORPHINE.
Q-Now, what other story did you relate to-, him m
m & o Rfard avepg story sTF that
]
ford White had said about him. Ale said that
Q.-Took morphine? A-Took morphine; that he
was in the habit Of taking morphine MI Wa n
ence of this morphine, he would do these terrible
apFs and also repeated the same story h about the
@ The a6 N aat hSd % %d you e Tes
Q-Yes. A.-So l think that was about all that
Q"&il that hat you told Mr. Thaw on that occa-
Gus reports that you had heard about him, what what
reply dd he make lie said SAID about about the sta TSt
ford. White had told me, that he could easily un,
him and was a friend Of Stanford White, and he
merely, laughed about it.; lie said it was crazy
about the second story-he said he couldn't under
QNThe one aeaut Tie girl being tied to the bed
post? A.-Yes He said he couldn't understand this
to be i. friend Of stanford White and he Couldn't
understand why this man should make up such a
story. Then about the stories that Stanford White
had told me, he said he could easily understand why
QIHe said be could easily understand why stan
XYes! ~ end he SAID had NO 6nsinass beeviT
those stores-that had known him for some time
not so And then he asked me 4 had ever seen
nm hod Ia t MOI pLLIg, anu Sa5u ~ b re b s a.
self some time or other?'
Mrs. Thaw indicated es If jabbng In her wrist
with some instrument held in the other hand and
said that she could not remember of ever seeing
anything like that and that she had told Stan
ford White that she never knew Thaw took
morphine.
TO STANFORD
told YOU that he took morphine? Ayes
Al said to Mr.. white that I had never seen Mr..
White said that there a lot OF other ways OF
taking H. Said YOU could smell II up your nose, or
and said that White knew lot more about It than
Odd Mr. Thaw on that occasion invite and
urge you 70 i9yesg9,e into me truth OF these
Odd he tell you 10 go forth and Investigate
them? A.-Yes, he offered to go with me to each
Ole offered to go with you to each OF these
.,Q-Haye you stated in substance, the whole Of
that occssionP s gou anu MI ma" upon
0.-without asking you what you did pursuant
again meet Mr. Thaw? Avery soon after; I don't
know eI Few 6aTs day or two, soon after
him nSo Ths sme alter a 9Sat but sa"
81 am not referring to mere casual meetings
Il ever t the Occasion arose when you 10 and he dis
cussed the stories that had been told about him,
result OF your Investigations into them. A.-,rho
next time remember talking 10 him was at Rec
tors; ! saw this man who told me the story about
about the bedpost? Ayes: asked this
mani asked this same man TO tell me that story
Q.-You repeated this to Mr. Thaw? Ayes: he
told me different story this time.
he told a different story; It was very different
The first story made a very decided impression on
ODD you relate TO Mr. Thaw the fact that you
! passed between YOU and him. and tho difference
| between the second version and the first? A.-Yes
! Q.-Te us what you told Thaw upon that sub
! feet? Al told him that / had asked this to
very different story, ana this time he said that it
/ waiter who had told him and he himself
and tina: the walter had come down to tho table In
! the restaurant where he was sitting and told him
! about It. Then l asked him what hotel Il was and
/ the name Of the hotel; the second time he didn't
| seem 70 know. l asked him more and more and
lie said What are YOU so interested in this for?
! ana l said because I want to know" And I
! sad: the hrst time You told me different one
/ at me, and said: You didn't believe that. did
your" l said: Il certainly did" He laughed and
! said: 81 just told you that to please somebody"
| rQ-When If at all was 1t that you told Mr.
| Thaw that you had made some Investigations into
/ the character OF the author Of that story? A
/ QIThen did You tell him anything about the
/ bHthtub story on that occasion-who was the
! thor OF It? A.-Not that night did not. had
! ODD you tell Mr.. Thaw on that evening any
thing OF the result of your investigation into the
/ foggng incident that you had mentioned2 A.-No
/ who had circulated the story -
/ Q.-What did you tell Mr. Thaw? Al told Mr.
/ ,Q,-The time and place if you remember where
/ this took place-that you told Mr. Thaw you could
/ find nothing reliable? Al don remember particu-
larly because every time after saw him, and
some talk on the subject and all along l was in
Q.HBefoTe Christmas Eve 1903? desire to make
that the dividing epoch. A.-No; don't think
! had.
1Saw? ADYes. sir.
! Q.-Where We're you at that time. on that even
son Square Theatre
$ wSsf uh hS9 the G ftPgs from Dye
| Q.-That was at the Madison Square Theatre?
ODD you see Stanford White that evening?
Ayes; several times.
At this point Mr. DeImas withdrew Mrs