The San Francisco call., 1907-01-30

each of the companies a majority I'm
the directorate i'm alternate years.
Would your line. II you had built it. have
come. down the same valley that is now TO be
used by the joint lnel
/ can't say as 70 that We had a survey
through LAKE County. but this is the best route
for construction. There Is little 10 support
railroad between the northern end Of the Cali
fornia Northwestern and the Eel River line
By the Commissioner-ls there any otnet way way
this proposed line Of the NorthW Western PaeincE
4 is possible. but It would be expensive.
soidstion the lines of easy access and all the
lines to the north along the coast! 49,.
We have no line north of Trinidad out un-
derstand there is
Are the terminals in San Francisco in which
the Santa Fe is interested owned exclusively oy
Yes. The Southern Pacific has no interest in
them, except in the stockyRrds IN the Potrero.
What other property do you operate ID com
The line over the rehachapi from Bakersfield
to Moiave. is owned by the Southern Paclnc, out
is used Jointly by them with us. We pay a n1ed
rental and a proportion Of the operating expenses
Is that sn7
Yes.
BY Lovett-You forget the line from Needles
Oh. yes; that is leased from the Southern
By stubbs-And you forget the Sunset road at
Yes Tevis was going to build that, but he
DprHunde0
By the Commissioner-Except the Salt Lake
road there is no other connection 10 California
save those Of the Santa Fe and the Southern
Peeinci %ni
And you Jointly own the most. practicable
access from the north on the coast'
Yes
Lovett then showed the nature Of the
defense by asking IL this Northwestern
Pacific line would not be wholly
within the State OF California
''It Is a part of two systems extend
ing outside the State" replied Sever
ance.
But IT is owned by separate COM
pany wholly within the State" Lovett
retorted
tween the two lines which extend out
side the State" and with that Sever
ance had the last word.
BUYS INDEPENDENT LINE
During Payson's testimony John d,
Spreckels had been called to the stand
TO show how the Southern Pacific had
bought out the Coos Bay, Roseburg and
Eastern Railroad and Navigation Com
pany and thereby obtained the last in
dependent road in the northern terri
tory. Mr.. Spreckels said:
Il was compelled to take this line
from a man by the name OF Samue els,
who purchas sed the rails from me. He
made a noise like an honest man, but
he did not pay for the rails. The prop
erty consisted OF coal mines. twenty
nine miles OF railroad and two steam
ers, the Czarina and the Breakwater
Altogether II cost me over q million
dollars. and it was never very re-
munerative. During the lifetime OF
Coils p. Huntington the Southern Pa
cific had negotiated for the purchase OF
this road, but when it was sold Mr.
Hartman acted through James Smith
of the Western Fuel Company, who
made the bargain with me last sum-
mer The property was sold for $780,
600, and the money was to have been
paid on April Is. II was paid later.
had my suspicious at the time that II
was the Southern Pacific which was
the real buyer and they are operating
il now. II saves them hauling the
grain 900 miles north 10 Portland and
then shipping it by water TO San Fran
/ cisco"
Lovett asked If there was any traffic
which the Southern Pacific got in the
/ road, and IL was answered that there
point that the Hartman company was
would have been a competitor for the
traffic of the independent road, and foi
that reason sought to free itself from
the possibility Of difficulty by the pur-
chase.
The hearing will be continued at II
/ o'clock this morning.