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Interrupted him to make sure he was getting all the conversation and as nearly if the words of the defendant as the witness could remember Dr. Wagner said
 Relieved Doctors Crooked. sT asked Mir. Thaw to tell me some, thing regarding what developed after the shooting. He told me that several doctors had called to examine him but he declined to be exarniued. He said made some examinations. He told mo about having dismissed the doctors who were employed By his former at- torneys because he believed them to be in league with friends of Stanford White and with the district attorneys office to send him to an asylum, He said there we're people who thought he was insane perhaps 20 or 300 of them, but they could not prove it.
 He also told mo that Stanford White had hired the Monk Eastman gang to foiiow him and pick a quar- rel with him and Kick him to death" Dr. Wagner said that Thaw told of seeing Stanford White on the roof garden and of going up to him and firing.
 T asked him If that was not a harsh way of ending the matter" said Dr. Waguer. land he replied that he had not wanted to kill White but we>ted to see him legally punished" "was 1t that he no intention of kill. ing him that particular nightT inter. rupted Mf.> Jerome sses s. .No. he said he had no general in- tention of killing the man. pr. Warner then reneated Thaw's. statement that Providence had done the act.
 witness regarding the defendants Proyidenoe when the luncheon recess
 when court reconyened after the luncheon recess Dr. Wagner again took the stand and resumed his relation of his conversations with Thaw in the Tombs
 ..He told me that as he was. walking out of the roof garden he saw White and approached and shot him., said
 arn view of that statement. Dr. wag- her. Is 1t your opinion that he knew he was approaching Whiteg asked Mir. Jerome.
 snid he not tell you something at that time about drawing his pistol7
 1T don't remember, exactly, but think he said something about it"
 "Taking all this jnto confederation, is 1t your opinion that when he walk ed towards White he had the inten- tion to shoot himT" Taking into consideration. his stase- naent that he had not intended to Kill White, don't think he did" "when he drew the pistol did he intend to shoot7"
 -I cannot say It Is possible that the act of drawing the pistol and of shooting were so close together as TO be simuitaneous.'
 Dr. Wagner said that he and Dr. Evans found Thaw's memory to be general good except that he could not remember the nun.be of shots he fired at Stanford White.The witness said he thought Thaw's delusiops in the ToInbs were of an unsystematized character. hut he would not classify them aa be- ing those of de5nentla praecox, or any other mental disease ThAwss condi- tion at that time was not such as to warrant It's characterization asa par- anoiac or fixed form either of adol- escent insanity or dementia praecox.
 The delusions which Thaw showed, pr. Wagner said, was not altogether unlike those of some forms of par anoia.
 sCan you, name one delusion which was not closely conected with Stanford White and the group of men surround ing him2" asked MrJ. erome.
 "No, l don't know that can"
 Then his delusions were systema- tized?"
 T would not say that.'' I pr. wagner then told of the visit td the Tombs on septemper 1s, when Thaw refused to allow an examination, using almost the exact language Dr. Evans used in describing the same visit and stating the same conclusions.
 Mir. Jerome asked Dr. Wagner if he could tell what form of insanity the defendant Is suffering from today
 More Repartee Induiged Hn.
 4I've not examined him since last October" replied Dr. Wagner. .and you cannot, Mir. District Attorney. make any of my answers apply 10 the present time, and in addition I may say that the defendants state of mind is not before the court"16s
 f Thank you said Mir. Jerome bow Ing.
 "You. are welceme.y
 Dr. Wagner said Chat when he visAe tied Thaw in the Tombs on September 90 last he. was of the opinion that the defendant was still insane. He visit ed him three days later and found him somewhat improved but still suffering from mental disorders.
 MT. Jerome asked Dr. Wagner for the details- of the mental examination consisting Of questions and answers he had subjected Thaw to in the Tombs in the occasion of his visit on Septem- Der 20. MT. Delmas objected on the ground that when Dr. Wagner was on the stand for direct examination he had not been allowed to testify as to these questions and answers MT. Je- rome's objections having been sustain ed.
 Mir. Jerome replied that there was no objection to the introduction of this evidence after the proper foundation was laid, as was the case when pr. Ey- ans was on the stand. After a long argument Justice Fitzgerald sustained the objection. Dr. Wagner said that Thaw's eyes had staring look in them 1 when he saw him in the Tombs.
 Have you looked at his face while | in court?" asked MT. Jerome.
 T have
 Have you noticed his eyes?
 sYes, in a casual way
 @Is 1t not a fact that his eyes are | SO formed as to give them a staring | look?"
 .'Yes, when he opens them wide
 what is the difference in the ex- pression of his eyes today as compared i with September 22 1astT
 T can't say; have not examined | them sufficiently in court today
 aWhat did you learn when you vis- ited Thaw Oct. ]? ?'
 "As I did not visit him on that date I did not learn anything," retorted pr.
 well october 3, then?a