The Washington times., 1907-02-18

he would some times be in bed for an
hour before he would fall asleep, but
then would get several hours good
sleep.
Il then invited him into a general con
VersatlOn, but he again began his rapid
talk and told me the same story This
creature he sad, naming White, call
ing MIN beast blackguard and one
time a dead man, sought 10 t0lle the
virtue OF every pure minded girl who
came into the sphere OF his observation.
1 dia the best I could 10 save them.
1 then referred TO the death. He said. .
1 know he WAS a vile creature, but
never had q chance 20 kill him. 1 want
ed TO bring him before Z. court; that
before the public. ! tried ia all legal
ways 10 put an end 20 MS doings. which
l believed TO be danger 10 ali mothers
and fathers Ia New York
Wanted to Expose Whites Villainy.
Later he said. IN America. L did
not desire 10 Kill him: no, hut Provi-
dence took charge Of the situation. l
would have preferred To have taken him
through the courts and 90 nave exposed
all his black villainy
went 20 Jerome ara 10 Il detective
agency. Mr.. Jerome slid / had better
let ali investigations cg,linst him stop;
there was nothing IA the story. The dc
tcctiVc agency sid Jncy could ,invcsti-
gale The mater but as They had no
atahulng ia court they ccpid NOT bring
him 10 justice.
Q.-Did he say anything OF having
called the attention Ot Mr. Comstock2 =
A-Hes. lie said M Comstock had
not given him any encouragement He
SAID prominent lawyer who WAS coun-
SCI Tor ny White was n the time cOun-
sci for Mr.. ComstOcl. lie said there
Was a general conspiracy between the
district attorney ONCE. COmstOCk.. and
Whites influential friends. He men
toned a Mr. P. lie would not give the
name. he said Mr.. p was associated
with AIr. White ga scduclng ana running
innocent women.
He said they did not DO tuc.r work
me same as other people The means
they used were alcohol. rs drink ana
drugs 10 render these girls Incapable
of defending themselves Among other
means which he said he had reason To
believe were used was physical force.
On this examination he showed no
anxiety as 10 personal feeling. lie dis
closed a great anxiety 10 lay before the
public the great wrongs Stanford White
had done q certain class OF young
women in New YORK. He WA very
DESTROYS OF laying the matter before
the public. He wanted every ono 10
know 1t He said he had advised with
Roger o Mara. former CHIEF or detcc-
lives OF PittLburg after no had been
Jostled by thugs who had tried 90 get
him into a quarrel He said OMara had
told him 70 protect himself
He told me that these people were tie
hired agents Of White-hc. not wanting
to take up on himself the responsibility
of making "a personal attack. hired the
monk Eastman gang. He said again
and again he had had no desire 90
shoot Stanford White. He said that
anybody could pun gun and shoot n
man, but that lie wanted. by legal pro-
cess. to lay bare the infamy
THAT, in substance. IS practically the
whole conversation OF the second visit"
His Third Visit to Thaw.
Proceed now. Doctor. with tile third. %
This was or September J. 1t was uu-
,lerstood that il was 10 be physical
examination. I omitted 10 say that or
The second visit I told M. Thaw /
thought it would be proper 10 make q
physical examination. DR.. Wagner and
]. with one OF our assistants. Dr. Meal
ing, who is especially apt in physical eZ-
aminations. Went TO see IL defendant.
Mr.. Hartridgc went 10 the Tombs with
US and I believe Mr. Peabody cam, too
when we came in Mr.. Thaw met us
with a large box under mis- arm. with
n show OF nervousness and with THAI
same stare. He talked incohcTently. one
word mumDling over the other. lie
said: How are YOU? He looked at DR..
Wagner and Dr. Mealing. and / eX-
planned TO him that they were there in
his interests. and he scTutiniZed them
closely. His manner was very nervous.
He looked first at one OF them and then
at the rest Of US. Then he went over
10 Mr.. Hartrdge and said: 7 want those
papers Mr.. Hartridge said he could
not let him have them then.
1rtT hr Ia "
IIartridge told him calmly ana I'm "a
reasoning manner. j viii look into that
matter. II Will be all right and then
said to Thaw I'm o. very genie SAY
Ihaw said again that explosive. excited
4 want them now.
They talked together ] heard near
" all Of the conversation. and / heard
Mt Hartridge say. ! will send them 10
YOU tomorrow TIaw said. L want 10
go over them with YOU today. Mr..
Hartridge talked To him until the de-
PENDANT got up suddenly
Impressed by Thaw's Manner.
q. Mr. cartridges manner was gen
tie and soothing?
A. Yes But Thnw would not brook
delay. He turned 60 US and said: There
will b. no examination today. Very
sorry. doctor. hut ? won't be examined
today" He walked ncrvously out OF
the room. tuciling the papers and box
under his arms and went in the di-
rcction Of his cell.
=. Did he say anything about what
these papers Werc2
4. Nothing that would indicate 20 INC
what they were Mr. Hartridge told him
they had nothing TO do with the eX-
animation. He stared al me- in a wild
sort OF way. I was very much impress
I'd by his manner
.. Have YOU made amy deductions
from this impresSion2
Objected 10 by Jerome and the qucs-
ton was withdrawn.
9. Have you stated al the things done