Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-07-11

ana wanted to- know VI the federation
| could not reimburse him. He said he
had no idea as to who blew UP the de-
| pot and he did not believe that Or
| chard knew anything about II either.
Neville wanted to be reimbursed in the
sum OF $500. Meyer said he investi-
gated the matter, found that Neville
mad never been a member of the ulk on
and told him he could be granted no
| relief
Harry Orchard came 10 see him in his
office. June 3, 1904 and asked him
out to have a drink, Meyer said. He
was busy at the time but told Or
chard II he cared TO wait he would gp
| out with him later. Orchard waited In
the outer Office and when Meyer was
through the two men went out TO din
nar together and had q few glasses OF
beer.
Meyer declared that after this ooca-
sion he never saw Orchard again.
Did you ever have any arrangement
OF any sort with Harry Orchard as to
the killing of anyone7"
II never had any arrangement of
any sort With him and never even dis
cussed the killing OF anyone with him"
Did you know of any money having
been paid for the killing or attempting
to kill anyone?" Darrow asked once
more.
There never was any money paid to
him so far as I know"
DENIES ORCHARDS STATEMENT.
Meyer denied that Orchard was ever
at his house in the Aberdeen flats and
also fatty denied Orchards statement
mat the witness and Haywood and
Pettibone and orchard met in Petit
bones back yard In August, 1906 and
discussed the killing of Gov. Steunen-
berg.
uJ navar ,,,o q IN, toa,.,i.a,.,s i.x,at- 80 -,
with Orchard in August, 1905. or any
other time"
Did you know Orchard in any other
way than as you have testified7"
Il knew him just as I knew other
members of the organization and the
only transaction between us was when
paid for his meals and hotel on thip to
Ouray."
Did yoI ask Orchard to kill Johnny
Neville or did Neville ever demand any
money of you for what he knew about
the Independence depot explosion?
i had no object in asking Or
chard to take the life of Mr.. Neville"
which has characterized his eSamina-
ton Throughout Mr.. Neville haS
never done anything to ME and any
knowledge he might have had about
the Independence depot could not
possibly have had any connection with
me. Mr. Neville did and could not have
made any threats 10 mel had nothing
TO fear
Did you ever tell Harry orchard
thar your health was too delicate to
have any more crimes committed in
Colorado and that he had better get to
Idaho?"
Il have never discussed crimes with
Orchard and could not have made such
statement
Meyer told of having come 10 Silver
city. Ida, in October. 1905, to visit
the local unions of the Western FEEDER
alton of Miners He did not stop In
Caldwell-in fact. he did not know there
was such place at that time. He knew
nothing of the whereabouts OF Orchard
or Stmpkins at this time.
Did You ever receive letter from
Harry Orchard at Butte asking you for
sl00?"
NO sir; I never received any letters
from orchard from any place or any
kilograms either"
Meyer declared he had never heard
of Orchards enmity toward Gov.
started. Senator Borah had the wit
ness tell again of Orchards activities
in helping the federation officials and
attorneys in the alleged train wreck
ing case at Cripple Creek.
You knew him as Orchard and as
zation?" suggester Senator Borah.
Yes, sir"
TRIP TO OURAY.
AS to Orchards accompanying him
to ouray. Meyer said he had intended
hiring a bodyguard until Orchard hap
pened to drop in and say that he was
going through Ouray on his way TO
Silverton. The two were on the train
together for day and a night and
talked very generally about their ex-
periences in different mining fields.
There was some discussion of Steun-
enberg, Orchard comparing the acts
of Idahos governor to those OF Gov.
Peabody of Colorado. Orchard also
told of having had an interest in the
Hercules mine, but did not say he had
lost that interest because of Gov
Steunenberg. He always said it was
because OF the troubles in the Occur
d Alenes'
Meyer repeated his statement OF yes
terday that from the time OF his ar
rest in Oursy in April, 1904. until |
June 23, 1905, he had not seen Orchard. |
you are sure Of this?" questioned |
Senator Borah.
II am willing to say SO under oath. |
senator
outside of Offering reward OF 5000.
the w. r. M. Meyer said. did nothing |
toward ferreting out the parties respon- |
sible for the Independence depot eX- |
ploson. The witness read IN the papers |
that Orchard and Johnny Neville were |
of the crimes The federation |
did nothing toward inquiring into this |
When Mover saw Orchard and went |
10 dinner with him, a year later. the |
matter OF the Independence depot ex- |
nlosIon was discussed Orchard de- |
clared that he had nothing 10 do with |
n and that he and Neville had left the |
cripple Greek district before the explo-
sion occurred.
JACK sIMPKINs' DRAFT.
Meyer declared he knew nothing OF |
a draft being sent by Haywood 10 |
Tack Slmpkins on Dec. II. 1905. The
first he ever heard Of the draft was In |
the evidence produced IN court week
or so ago,
tie more than an hour and half. On
redirect Meyer said that Atty. Hangs
was employed by the federation at
Cripple Creek ana made an investiga-
tion OF the Independence explosion.
Meyer declared he had not heard OF
Simpkins since some time in January.
1906. He knew where 10 find all the
other members of the executive board |
but could not tell where Simp- |
kns was, Both sides announced that |
Meyers examination had been conclud-
ed as the luncheon recess until 1880 b. |
m. was ordered,
Meyer said that al the time the |
federation arranged TO employ A law
yer for Orchard there had been no |