Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-03-06
She Breaks Down and Cries as
She Tells Story Of Changes in
Son After Trip to Europe.
N. Y. MAN RUINED HIS LIFE.
Or. Warner Said Didn't Believe
ThaW's Mind Clear When
He Was Married.
When Hc Shot Stanford White Had
No Idea That He Was COM
uniting Crirnc-

view York, March e---Mrs. VIM
ThaN was the first witness calico
efter the luncheon recess
Mrs Thaw said she noticed change
in her son when he came to Pittsbure
IN 1908. He was absent minded ano
apparently had lost interest in lie.
Mrs Thaw broke down and cne'
while narraSing the change IN her son
following his trip to Europe with
Evelyn in 1901.
In explaining his changed condition
10 her, Mrs. william Thaw said Harry
told her 1.-The wicked and the man In
New York had ruined his life"
Mrs. Thaw after recovering from
her first breakdown. seemed about to
weep again and could not proceed.
Justice Fitzgerald relieved the sitna-
ton by ordering her testimony UP 10
that time read to the jury. Il had been
given in "a voice too low for the jury
to hear.
In arguing on an objection by Dist.
htty. jerome Mr., Delnas said he would
invoke the rule of the law that Thaw.
being insane in 1908, continued insane
n ls0f
.Ir that assumption is sound said
the district attorney. ''there Is no rea-
son TO believe this defendant is not In
sane today and 1t becomes the duty of
The court to suspend the trial"
Jerome said he was not suggesting
the appointment OF a commission in
hinacy at this time, but was advancing
the point as an argument on the cues
ton as to whether Mrs. Thaw should
be allowed to repeat all conversations
with her son.
Justice Fitzgerald overfuled Mr.. Je-
rome's objection to Mrs Thaw. telling
conversations with her SON in 1904.
Mrs Thaw said she laid down one
condition as to the marriage-that
Evelyns past life should he as closed
book-never to be referred to.
Battling Nelson. the puGilist today
was tho center of attraction In the
court where Harry X Tliaw is on trial
for his life The pusilist occupied the
entire attention of the spectators up
10 the time the defendant was called
10 the bar. Nelson was accompanied
by his manager. Nm. Nolan. and they
occupied seats just behind the prison
err.
In anticipation of q continuance of
expert testimony there were many
empty seats in the court room To-Day.
Thaw again came to court laden
with letters which continue to come
90 him from all quarters OF the globe.
Most of the letters are in praise. OF
the defendant and he manifestly takes
great satisfaction In reading them.
DIR. WAGNER CALLED.
DR. Wagner, who has been under
cross examination since Monday after
noon, was again called to the stand
and Dist Atty. Jerome began to ply
him with questions regarding Thaw's
will and codicil
DR.. Wagner said he believed that
when Thaw wrote the section OF the
will providing for a fund for the prose-
sutton of any one who might take his
life his mind was clouded and he did
not have as clear an idea OF such mat
ters as man who was wholly sane, but
enough 10 be able 10 appreciate that the
taking OF human life was crime.
Doctor, when this defendant stood
up to be married upon the same day
That will was signed, did he know what
be was doing asked Jerome"
WHEN TErAW WAS MARRIED.
ST don't think his mind was entirely
clear"
was 1t clear enough for him to un-
ferstand that he was getting narried3"
''Yes, he understood IL,
After questioning Dr. Wagner regard
Ing the letter written by Thaw in 1908
TO Atty Longfellow, Mr.. Jerome sud
aenly asked:
was there any period between 1908
and 1895 when this defendant was Ia
full possession of his faculties|
Dr.. Wagner hesitated a moment ana
Linen replied:
"rhere are several months in that
period OF which 1 have no record. 1t
Is possible that there may have been
recovery during that time"
MIR. jerome took up Il number OF
works by various authors OH psychatry
md asked Dr. Wagner's opinion Of the
works and the writer's For half an
hour this lima OF questioning Wls kept
up, DE-. Wagner admitting that most 81
The authors noted We're learned men.
Following this Jerome returned to
rhaw's letter, IN explpinlng that
1Ihn might be insane and still have a
working knowledge or many matters.
Dr. Wagner said thar In the institute
lion OF which no IL superintendent he
nos patient. who although the most
insane man be has ever seen, Is a good
.hpemaker, one OF this mans decisions.
which affected him three or four times
day, Is that people who are hundreds
f miles away. are eating something
hat causes him nausea
After finishing with his questions
passed on Thaw's letters, Mr.. Jerome
lsked Dr.. Wagner;
do you know @ disease known as
circular lnsanltyg'
Yves"
us reasoning IN a circle a sign OF
circular lnsanity?'
u don't know what you mean by
ieasonlng In . circle"
The kind Of reasoning you have been
Icing"
Mr. pelmas obJcolod and asked thar
NE remarks betstrickon out Accusing
lhe district attorney az making an in-
erence that The Nitness was n victim
n circular insanity,
My. Jerome settled The matter nv
withdrawing the remark
NIGHT or THE KILLING.
Mr.. Jerome next took NJ The @, erta
iron ho Madison square Roof Garden
M. pIHlf fIhunt ahAt tatd LIMA go.