The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-07-07
ROCKEFELLER WILLING
BUT VERY IGNORANT
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and grouped around them were c. NJ.
Pratt, secretary of the Standard Oil
company of New Jersey; William P.
Howe and F. G. Barstow, assistant
ltreasurers of the company; Charles T.
White, assistant secretary; J. A. Moi
fat, president of the Standard Oil COM
pany Of Indiana; W. p. COWan. vice
president, and 1. w. StahI, secretary
and treasurer Of the same corporation.
Other witnesses in the group were II.
r. FELTON,, president, and w NJ.
Hutchinson, secretary and treasurer of
the Union Tank Line. Fred A. Wann,
former general freight agent Of the
Chicago & Alton railway, and a mum
Der Of attorneys completed the group.
Before the hearing of the Standard
OH company case began. Judge Lands
disposed Of several other matters
among them the sentencing of several
prisoners for violation of the postal
laws.
Mr.. Rockefeller showed great interest
in these proceedings. listening intent
f1y to every word.
When the Standard Oil investigation
case was called the attorneys for the
company, together with F. c. GauIt
stepped forward to the front of Judge
Lands desk. Here Attorneys Miller
and Rosenthal OF counsel for the com
lpany made an earnest plea that Mr.
u.
They explained to the judge that he
could give no informatio that could
mot be better obtained from some 9TH
er source. He declared that he could,
lin fact, tell nothing OF what the Judge
desired to know.
The judge, however, refused to va
cate the subpoena and insisted that
Mr.. Rockefeller. being I'm court. he
should take the stand and testify to
the best Of his ability.
Attorney Miller Objects.
Attorney Miller for the company Of
fered the objection to the impending
proceedings that they were entirely
outside the jurisdiction of the court
Judge Lands Overruled the motion.
Mr. Miller then declared that the de-
tense objected to every question put to
every witness during the proceedings
The court replied:
Watch and you will see that every
objection is Overruled and an exception
allowed"
Frederick A Wenn. the former gen
eral freight agent of the Chicago &
Alton railroad. was then called and
questioned regarding the rate at
which oil should have been shipped
from Whiting, Ind. TO East St Louis
The witness replied that he had is
sued instructions for 1O-cent rate.
After some further questions relating
10 tariffs and tariff sheet the witness
was excused and Harry f. FELTON,.
president of the Union Tank line, took
the stand.
He was asked if he knew ANYTHING
about the payment of money to the
ChiOn Tank line before the Chicago 4
Alton for he use of its cars during the
period covered by the indictments in
the tfial recently closed.
The witness said that the railroad
company paid to the Tank Line COM
pany three-qUarters of a cent for the
hauling of both empty and loaded
cars He was asked by Judge Lands.
Does The Union Tank Line company
own these cars that are used in the
transportation Of oil?"
Yes. sir
DO you know whether its stock is
owned by any other company"
the major portion Of the stock of
the Union Tank line is owned by the
Standard Oil company Of New Jer-
sey."
What proportion of its stock?"
'Oh, by far the major portion, the
controlling interest in il"
What is the outstanding capital
stock or the Union Tank Line compa-
ny"
The original investment was SO. 500
900. but il is IN debt $4,000. 900 on top of
that. 1t has not paid a dividend since
1901"
rs that due to the mismanagement
Of your predecessor"
No, sir: it is due to the fact that
there is no money in running as an
investment tank cars at three-quarters
of a cent a mile"
Mr.. Rockefeller Called.
This concluded the testimony of Mr.
FELTON,. and as he left the stand Judge
lands called.
John d. Rockefeller"
Mr. Rockefeller rose brislIly from his
seat and walked rapidly toward the
witness stand. At the conclusion of
the oath. and in response to the usual
question as to whether he would tell
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
bus the truth, he bowed his head in af-
firmatiOn and said:
L do"
The witness was questioned bv
Judge lands. He spoke with much
elaboration, bordering his answers
carefully before he gave them. Many
of them were uttered in so low a tone
that they were inaudible ten feet from
his chair. Before making a reply to
the questions of the court the witness
almost Invariably fixed his eyes upon
whether or not they desired to inter-
pose objections. Once satisfied on this
point he answered promptly.
The first question put by Judge Ian
dis was.
Mr.. Rockefeller, have you any Off
cial connection with the Standard Oil
company of New Jersey"
Il am the president, but the position
IS purely honorary; has been for the
last eight or ten years. as 1 have not
been rendering any service whatever"
DO you know what the outstanding
capital stock of the Standard Oil com
pany of New Jersey isl"
Doesn't Know Much.
Before the witness could answer At
torney Miller offered an objection that
the court had no right or power to in
quire into the matter, and that the
method employed in obtaining it
amounted TO an unreasonable search
within the provisions of the fourth
amendment of the constitution of the
United States.
Judge Lands overruled the objection,
and the witness replied:
I think that it is about 500 600 900;
the outstanding l could not state def