The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-03-03


A.-For q few days,
Q.-Were you tried7
A.-By the police court
Odd you commit the same offeuse
at that time, or similar to the one with
which you are charged now?
A-Similar TO ii. yes sir.
GLOW long did you operate before
that?
A-About four months
Odd you stand in with the police at
that time?
A.-No sir.
Odd you make any winnings during
that tinle2
A.-yes, sir
Q.-Skinned a good many suckers?
Ayes. sir
Q.-Do you know about what you won
during that time in the aggregate?
Alt would be rather hard to esti-
mate.
Q.-Make a rough estimate if you can.
Made $4,000 in Kansas City.
Ain the neighborhood of $500 or
5000 Something like that.
Q.-That much yourself Did you di-
vide up with the authorities?
A.-Had s., 500 for my part after / left
there, after I paid my fine.
Q--Did you operate with others?
Q.-were you arrested again at any
other place?
Ayes, sir
Q--Where?
A.-Dallas. Texas
Q.-Was that for the same or similar
crime?
A.-No. that was not for gambling. 1
had a fight in a theatre.
Q.-What were you charged with?
A.-Disturbing the peace.
Odd You have to pay a fine?
Ayes, sir.
o--When were you arrested again. if
ever?
Al was arrested at Denver on this
charge.
Owen. when besides this?
Al was arrested in Denver before
this
A-For what?
Matching dollars with fellow in
Denver
Q.-Now. were you ever arrested again.
Al was arrested at Denver and
brought here after that.
O.-Is that the only time?
A.-That can recall just now. yes sir
Q-Have you ever been in the peniten-
tiary2
Q.-Were you ever in Salt Lake before
August?
Ayes. sir.
Q.-When?
Acts see-I was here last summer.
o.-Last summer a year ago?
Ayes, sir
o.-What was your business at that
time?
A.-Matchins dollars.
Odd YOU play cards?
Al didn't at that time. no. sir
Q:-Did you know who was the chief of
police at that time7
Al don't remember. I don't believe
he was chief then
Odd YOU ever see him?
Al don't know that l saw the chief
of police, I saw Mr. Sheets then.
Q.-You saw Mr.. Sheets?
A Ia
OBrien's store.
Q.-You make it business. do you not
to know municipal officers by sight
when YOU see them?
A.-Some Of them / do.
Q.-Where you remained in a town car
rying on your business. you make that
one of your specfalties. don't you?
Al den't go TO town more than I can
possibly avoid.
Kept Out of the Way.
Q.-You mean you don't go out?
A--Dont GO out any more than have
to; that is, the main streets Of town
Q--Generally hide up during the day
remain indoors somewhere?
Al remain in my room when ] am
not at work.
o.-Now. what day, according TO your
best recollection, did you come to Salt
Lake City last summer; this last time?
A.-To the best of my recollection was
the early part of August.
Q.-Can you give US anywhere near the
date?
it. 1t was along in the early part of Au-
gust. along between the LIST and nh
somewhere.
Q.-when did you first see Newton and
have talk with him? About what time
was that?
A.-Got in. here one morning about
o elock. came straight up here and met
Newton across from the Pabst, think it
was. and shook hands with him. Wasn't
with him very long then.
Looks for No Reward.
Q.-Before coming to this, however. l
want to ask you this question What re-
ward, or immunity. if any. do you re-
ceive, or expect OF hope for, on account
Of your testi<ony In this case?
Al don't hope for anything l don't
expect anything.
Q.-You don't hope for anything?
Al have hopes. of course: but dom
expect anything: don't look for ANYTHING.
Q.-Weil, you have hopes. don't you?
Al haven't any hope only the hope
that ! will live That is all.
Q--Don't you have a hope that you will
have the case dismissed against you?
A--No. sir. ! don't have hope of hay
ing ii dismissed.
Q.-Don't you have that hope within
YOU, and isn't that the basis of your tes-
Limony?
A--NO-- SIT
Q.-Is the basis of your testimony a
high mOral-on a moral plane? Is that
why you are testifying-with a view now
TO uphold the law?
Al was asked these questions and ]
testified as near as I knew the truth.
OIL know. I am asking you If you
are influenced in your testimony by a
high moral idea of aiding. assisting due
of justice, or are you in
fluenced by some other means?
Al don't thoroughly grasp your ques-
ton. 1 am not influenced In any way
only l was put on the stand TO tell the
ruth.
o.-You were arrested, were you not?
Ayes. sir.
ON Denver
Ayes. sir
Q.-You fled from this city to Denver,
iidn't your
Ayes. sir
Q.-You went because of this offense?
Ayes. sir
Q.-You were afraid of being caught:
hat Is why you left?
Ayes. sir
Q.-You were caught?
Ayes. sir.
o--And brought back?
Ayes. sir.
Q.-Now, what do YOU expect for tes-
flying in the manner you have from
he state. if anything?
Al don't except anything