The San Francisco call., 1907-06-11

] fk4CAdIQctn EShEQ OIlidI1s dlttt a III
: tie conference with Darrow and Hay
wood. whether he claimed that Hay
wood. Meyer and Pettibone had had
anything 10 do personally with the
( planning or carrying out Of the yindi-
Gator shaft explosion.
only that they paid for it, replied
Orchard.
And you don't claim that Moyor or
Haywood had anything TO do with
planning or carrying out the Gregory
murders"
Not personally, so far as / know
Richardson next took up the Inde-
pendence depot explosion. and Orchard
said that he had planned TO blow up
the station before the train got there,
so as not TO inJure a man named Rush.
the engineer. because he was friend
OF Sherman Parker. Parker had warned
him not TO harm Rush. who had testi-
fed for Parker in the train wreckiDg
cases.
You expected TO kill so or so men.
didn't your
We expected TO kin some"
And you didn't care how many you
killed, did you2"
Not then" replied Orchard.
DRAWS DEPOT DIAGRAM
When Richardson took him his note
book. Orchard ceoIly leaned forward in
his chair and drew a diagram of the
station and the spur on which he and
Steve Adams laid the wire to their
mine and indicated where they ran
after the explosion. He told of getting
back TO the camp in the canyon on the
way to Colorado Springs, where Johnny
Neville and the boy were waiting for
him. and OF finding them awake.
Neville taxed him with blowing some
thing up. but he denied 1t, because the
boy was listening. Besides. there was
no reason why he should tell Neville
although they had been partners in
another crime.
Haywood suggested a curious ques-
tion to Richardson. There was whis-
pered conference and Richardson asked:
while you were at the camp that
night, do you remember getting up and
taking match safe from the pocket
Of your trousers which were hanging
over a bush, for Charlie NeviIIe?"
NO" said Orchard. Il did no such
thing
Where or how Haywood got the in
formation on which this tip was based
did not appear. Neville is dead; Died
suddenly the other day in Nevada" as
Pettibone wrote to Orchard once.
Charlie Neville is on the list of wit
nesses for the state.
DEsIALs TO BE MADE
In going over the story fn such detail
Richardson is laying the foundation for
SUBSEQUENT deniais, many Of which will
be made By the miners federation men
directly implicated. but some of which.
the defense declares. will come from
disinterested witnesses. The story OF
the days after the Independence ex-
plosion, the trip TO Denver, and from
there on 10 Wyoming the sending of
paf Mnr1ra
er, back with letter to Pettibone re-
questing $500. the subsequent journey to
Cody and the return thence to Denver
was all brought out in great detail
II included confession of the loss of
about $500 in the gambling house at
Cody and Whereabouts. which was what
induced Orchard to go back after hav-
ing borrowed $50 from Cody gambler
TO pay his way.
1t was on this trip that W. F. Davis
asked TO join the party and was turned
dpwn
There was no room for him." said
Orchard. and. besides, we didn't want
him, anyway"
Why not" asked Richardson; "he
was no bigger criminal than your
He was known as a bigger criminal
than i was replied Orchard
In INSTRUMENTATION about the prepa-
raticns in Denver for this trip Rich !
ardson laid a peculiar foundation for
denial. Orchard said that Pettibone
went with him to buy the things thai
he needed because the store keeper
could get a trade discount Richard
son pursued this subject to the end. !
exhibiting knowledge of the details |
OF the transaction even greater than |
Orchards.
RICHARDSON FORTIFIED
store he queried. and got fishing
rod?" Yes"
And a ree1?" Yes"
And a liner" Yes
And some 1ies?" "Yes"
So Richardson went through the list |
OF supplies that Orchard and Pettibone
got including a rifle and an automatic |
revolver and some other things.
Then you went to the Denver Tent /
and Awning company and got a tent?' |
That's right" replied Orchard.
1t was the first of Richardson testi- |
mony since the cross examination be- /
gan that Orchard accepted.
This Wyoming trip brought out more |
about the ranch of refuge" as Rich-
ardson called IL. Orchard reiterated |
his declaration that he had talked il |
over with Mover and Haywood as a
good thing to have.
you were the only one who had |
committed crimes" asked Richardson,
why did they need a ranch?"
We'll, knew they had others work
ing for them.' replied Orchard
In telling about his stay in Cheyenne
Orchard described Pat Moran and de-
clared with emphasis that there coutI +
be no doubt about his going to Denver
with the letter TO Pettibone Richard
son got him to locate the saloon very
carefully, evidently expecting TO call |
Moran to deny the story, as he is re-
ported to have done already in Chey- |
enne.
curious side light on the character
Of such men az Orchard came out in
this line Of questioning. He told of I
lying to Pettibone on his return from
Cody and saying that he had spent the
$500 that Moran had brought him in
buying lots in that town. he and Neville
having planned to build a saloon.
Il did not want to tell Pettibone
about the gambling" he said
MORE TALK OF PLOTS
There was more talk with Haywood