The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-08-30
MANYMEK ON MEDIUMS STRING
MISS DARRELL TELLS OF MAY
PEPPERS VARIOUS FRIENDS.
Saw Some q Them Hug ana MISS the splr-
Itualist and Heard Her Call Vanderbilt,
Her Husband. ian Old Fool Says wit
ness who Tried 70 Conceal Her Identity.

ness VINO Tried 70 Conceal Her Identity.
The Vanderbilt lunacy commission. ait
ting In the Kings county court house. heard
stories Of the past life OF Mrs. May s. Pepper
Vanderbilt yesterday given by a neatly
dressed young woman In blue. about whose
identity there IVES q lot of mystery until
counsel for Mr.. Vanderbilt dragged II out
OF her on cross-examihation. Then abe
gave IL only when the commission informed
Der that she could be imprisoned until she
sold.
Efforts had been made by Miss Wander
bilt's attorneys TO have the testimony OF
this woman taken privately, but Conn
missioner Ketoham. the lawyer member.
aid tho commission didn't nave power to
do %. Then Lawyer Rosenberg Of the
petitioners counsel asked hat the COM
mission direct the newspapers not TO use
tho name Of the witness. Commissioner
Ketchsm did 20.
Lawyer Arnstein Of the petitioners coun-
eel then announced that he would a any
ono who used the young woman name put
In Jail. and furthermore would have every
man on the offending newspaper In court.
Miss vanderbiltac ied her personal plea that
Tho name be not used. Thu late editions Of
ths afternoon newspapers were not much
impressed by the directions OF the Court,
and Just as noon as the name came out
ceased referring TO -the mysterious woman
In blue and said she was Miss Caroline
Boynton Darrell. 20 years old, Of 40 East
Ninth street. Manhattan.
When tho hearing was opened Lawyer
Rosenberg called Mr.. Vanderbilt to the
stand long enough to ask him this question:
WAS Mrs. Pepper Vanderbilt always a
dutiful wife 10 your"
Yes. sir; she was." replied the witness.
lawyer Rosenberg hen directed the com
mission to command the alleged inoompe-
bent to produce his wife at the proceedings.
and cited what he considered authorities for
such action. Commissions Ketcham held
thss he could not do so. and also denied
tho request that the deposition Of Mrs.
Pepper DO taken either at Boston. Mass.
or Etns. Me. The various arguments
sdvancedfor the producing Of Mrs. Pepper
took up most Of the forenoon session.
Then the witness who didn't want her
identity revealed was called TO the stand.
She was dressed In blue with cream oolored
lace trimmings on her short sleeves and
collar. Her hat was blue with white rose
trimmings. She wore a heavy veil until
ono Of the jurymen expressed a desire to
see her face and she was directed to remove
the veil. She smiled pleasantly now and
then. and seemed to enjoy the air OF mys-
tory that surrounded her.
When the petitioners lawyers told her
10 write her name on a slip Of paper and
hand 1t to the court stenographer she did so.
She was asked at once about her acquaint-
ance with May 8. Pepper. and said she saw
her until September. 1909. sometimes every
night and sometimes once or twice a week.
Then she identified a picture Of Mrs. Pep
per.
Miss Darrell said she knew a man named
J. Edward Allen and had seen him in COM
pany with Mrs. Pepper. Asked to tell
when and where she had seen them to-
getber she said she couldn't enumerate all
the places. One occasion was in the business
Office of Mr.. Allen in Providence in Septem-
her. 1905. She said Mrs. Pepper asked ner
to go out Of the room and leave them alone,
and she did 80.
After a minute I looked through the
door and saw him with his arms around her
and their lips together" the witness said.
They stood together 80 for several min
utes.'
The witness said she also saw them to-
gether at the s~piritualist camp at Lake
Pleasant, and once saw Mrs. Pepper go up
and kiss Mr.. Allen goodnight: She then
reluctantly repeated a conversation between
herself and Mrs, Pepper concerning both
Allen and Vanderbilt.
Il told Mrs. Pepper Of statements Mr..
Allen was making Of his relations with her"
said the witness. -She said Allen was get
ting presumptuous or something.
MIR. Allen had given her furniture. dia-
monds and a wedding ring with Bright
Eyes to Eternity on II. Mrs. Pepper told
me ,snpPose he should tell old man Van
Miss Darrell said that Allen once told her
that Mrs. Pepper had a spirit named Red
Light keeping watch over him, n that
one night when he was with another woman
Red Light" set of the burglar alarm.
Tn petitioners counsel had trouble
getting answers To many questions put 10
the witness because Of the continued OBJ
~jections OF Mr.. V~anderbilt's attorney and
the apparently increasing reluctance OF the
witness herself.
. The witness said she lad heard the spirit
ualist speak of a man named Libby who
want ed TO marry her. but who didn't nave
enough money 20 satisfy her, She said
AIns. Pepper told her that Bright Eyes
didn't like Libby. either. but thought more
Of Allen.
Bright Eyes would put Mrs. Pepper in n
rance whenever Libby was around and
turn her thoughts 20 Allen. Mrs. Pepper
told me" said the witness.
Miss Darrell said that Mrs Pepper had
two roosters, one named Libby and the
other Allen. but rooster Allen was always
too much for rooster Libby. She said that
the man Libby was about 70 wears old.
DO you know Markwclp" the witness
vas asked.
.See. he was said To be a member Of Mrs.
Peppers church. On New Years night.
1900, l saw him with Mre. Pepper. He ap-
peared intoxicated and took Mrs. Pepper
and kissed her.
The witness was asked about the quarrels
al,e had seen between Mrs. Pepper and her
sister, Harriet ScanneU. and said she had
ssen Mrs. Pepper strike her sister twenty
or thirty times.
What did Mrs. Pepper say about mar
risge?" the witness was asked.
"She said. I want TO marry a nice old
man who win take care OF me-"
The witness said Mrs. Pepper told her
she had TO give money 10 her sister Harriet
and her haif-brother to keep them from
running her" Concerning Bright Eyes
the witness said:
Mrs. Pepper talked to Inc often about
her. ! remember once a lady called about
n divorce and TO find out what Mrs. Pepper
knew about her husbands doings. Mrs.
Pepper said: Bright Eyes will like that
| replied that 7 couldn't see anything spirit
ual in such talk. Mrs. Pepper also said