New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1907-03-29

PAGE ASKS EXPLANATION.
Superintendent Tells of Preparation
for PolicyhoEders' Elections.
IBy Telegraph to The Tribune. ]

by Telegraph to The Tribune
Albany. March 2S.-Another tiresome session OF
the Kelsey hearing held this afternoon fol-
lowed BY a long night session before the Senate
Judiciary Committee. Superintendent Kelsey was
examined in detail concerning the preparations for
the recent policyholders elections in the New York
and Mutual Life Insurance companies. He declared
that he worked out the general scheme TO be fol-
lowed leaving the details Of the count OF ballots
~ the inspectors whom he chose. Just at the ad-
tournnnent of the afternoon session there was a
It'll. 4ut Earlier in the day Mr. Kelsey had
testified that when ne seeking inspectors ne
asked some friends in New York about the char-
scter Of candidates. He mentioned ex-Controier
Wilson and Julius NJ Mayer
Did You consult With Senator Pager asked ez-
Justice Hatch.
mo" replied Mr.. Kelsey.
senator Page seemed somewhat surprised at this.
but said nothing until adjournment.
For some purpose. I don't know what. ne
burst out then. my has been mentioned this
afternoon Now If there is anything to be SAID
about me- or any explanations wanted or charges
made I want to have It all out now. right here IN
the omen before the committee. Certain statements
which were false were given out after the last
hearing concerning me. II there is to be anything
OF the sort now. If anything is to be said.
want TO hear it now
Mr. Kelsey's lawyers and Superintendent Kelsey
were dazed for half minute.
~Do YOU want tc hear from me?'' asked Mr..
Hatch finally.
'.You or anybody else retorted Mr. Page.
81 wished to show. when I asked that question"
explained Mr.. Hatch. that Mr.. Kelsey used all
possible diligence in tracing the character OF the
men he was likely to name. and made inquiries
about them wherever possible. I under the
impression that he had consulted you about some
of them There idea of crticising you or
casting any reflection on you
.sI recommended Mr.. Lawshee by letter, and he
was made an Inspector" said Mr.. Page There
was no consultation. II there was TO be anything
said about me I wanted to know It and have IL in
the open"
An incident Of the hearing which some believe Is
likely to prove damaging to the defence came out
at the night session. The Kelsey lawyers had put
in evidence some eighty letters regarding rulings
under the section of the law relating to limitations
Of expenses The impression was that ali this was
the work OF Mr.. Kelsey. Senator Page cross-ex-
amlned him and brought out that all mail TO the
department was opened by Deputy superintendent
Appleton and distributed by him to the persons
who should handle It. OF eighty-three letters with
rulings under this section seveuty-one had gone
originally to Mr. Patterson. chief actuary. and
been answered by him Ten had been referred 20
Mr.. Kelsey of those eight had been answered by
Mr.. Patterson or Mr.. Appleton. In reply 10 Ques-
lions by Senators Grady and Smith Mr.. Kelsey
said that no letter containing ruling ever left
the department without his knowledge and con-
sent and that what letters sent by Mr.. Apple
ton or Mr.. Patterson went after consultation with
him.
EXAMINATION MAY END TO-DAY.
Mr. Kelsey's examination probably will be ended
tomorrow after correspondence with the late ex-
Governor Higgins about the retention Of Mes5rs.
Hunter and Vanderpoel has been submitted. and
then the question OF admission Of other witnesses
will have to be considered. Senator Raines rs
known 20 favor hearing OF every witness before
the entire Senate. and others OF the COM
mittee will stand with him. II seems likely that
other witnesses will be heard; and q the defence
continues at its present rate It keep going all
summer 1t began to-day with the preparation OF
the ballots for the elections Forms OF ballots
used by the New York Life were I'ed in
nineteen languages after each had been described
exclusively. Senator Raines wanted 10 know IL
there was an English form. and II Superintendent
Kelsey prepared f. He was told that Mr. Kelsey
did
II don't suppose it's claimed that Kelsey dd the
transatng. is it?" commented Senator Page.
NO. only took the responsibility for the Eng
lish form, the companies the translating." came
Mr.. Kelseys answer.
on September 20 Mr. Kelsey sent n completed
copy Of the New York Life ballot 20 Mr. Hughes.
Two days later he received acknowledgment OF
the receipt Of "a crude form OF statement for the
Hundreds Of letters relating 10 the ballots and
elections placed I'm evidence. and many OF
them read After one particularly long Sen
ator Human wanted TO know n Mr.. Kelsey
wrote g.
cared Danforth E. Ainsworth. Of the Kelsey staff
OF counsel. that every letter written from the
office relating TO the election of directors
do with them"
for the working out of the election plans. He said
the inspectors were Swallowed by private detectives
he could learn If they were proper men for the
places. They. once appointed. arranged for the
counting OF ballots. He thought the canvass would
be completed officially about April 20 in the Mutual
and about the same time for the New York Life.