The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1907-02-18
AN ACT OF PROVIDENCE.
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had been assured were there through
no unfriendly part
Did he mention to you the names
| of any of the young women who he
said had suffered wrongs at the hands
of Stanford White?'' asked Mr.. Del
mas.
Before the witness could answer,
Mr. Delmas withdrew the question and
! asked DR.. Evans if he had read the CO.
dieil to Harry Thaw's will.
| The witness said he had read it in
part and had heard all of it read.
| Said He Was Not Insane
Did he mention to- you the names
! that appear in the codicil ?'' =4it' '''
| District Attorney Jerome objected
to the question in this form and it was
| withdrawn.
did Mr.. Thaw say to you that he
was not insane?''
Yes sir; he said 4 am not insane ="
rs it common thing for persons
suffering from unsound mind to pro-
| test that they are not Tnsane?''
ut is very common-about 95 per
cent of them do it,
| DIR. Evans said Thaw declared that
| perhaps 200 or 800 persons might be
| found who would say he was insane he
| did not think they could prove it.
| Relating Thaw's act of self i'm
! portance. DR.. Evans said:
| He wanted me to understand that
he was Harry Kendall Thaw of Pitts
| burg; that he was the one and only
Harry Kendall Thaw and there were
no Others"
What conclusion did you reach as to
Thaw's declaration that his act had
| been an act of ProviGence?"
THAT it was an insane delusion"
Are not repentance, remorse and fear
of punishment the normal conditions OF
a sane man after he had committed an
act of homicide, and the absence of
these of H.
ness of mind?' So .a ~
LAS rule remorse and repentance are
found in the sane mind and in my opin-
ion the absence of these feelings is an
indication of moral unsoundness.''
DIR. Wagner Is Called.
This ended the direct examination of
DR.. Evans, who was withdrawn to en-
able the defense to recall DR.. Charles
G. Wagner, superintendent of the state
hospital of the insane at Binghamton,
DR.. Wagner accompanied Dr. Evans
on most of his visits to Thaw in the
Tombs and replied briefly last week
giving 1t as his opinion in response to d
hypothetical question that Thaw was
insane at the time he shot and killed
Stanford White.
when on the stand previously, to relate
his conversations with Thaw. Under
the rule that conversations at the time
a person is of unsound mind are adj
tell of these.
LAS a result of your visits to Mr..
Thaw on August Il, and September 10,
last, did you reach a conclusion as to
asked Mr.. Delmas.
Yes" replied DIR. Wagner; Sin my
opinion. he was at that time insane
When L visited him on August II. he
told me that Doctors Austin Flint
Carlos Macdonald and William Mabon
had visited and had asked permits
sion to examine him, but he had re-
fused to allow them to do so.''
The three physicians mentioned are
the alienists employed by the state IN
this case.
Mr.. Thaw said DR.. Daniel had also
to let him conduct an exam dnso
ton although was sent by his own at
tors were in consultation with the dis
trict attorneys Office to run him into
an asylum and prevent his case coming
to trial Thaw always referred to Stan
ford White by an epithet such as the
blackguard.' or the dead man and
never by his right name''
DR.. Wagner then repeated practically
the same story of the interview as was
related by DR.. Evans. He said that
Thaw referred to Stanford Whites
"dens of vice" and said 1.-The BEAST
had three ways of running young girls
seduction, drugs and physical violence
DR. Wagner said he asked Thaw
He said,'' continued the witness.
that he had no thought of killing
White that night on the roof garden:
that he had striven only to get evidence
against the man SO as to send him to
the penitentiary."
Confirms DE-. Eycns.
DIR. WAGNER repeated Dr. Evans
statements to his visit of September
10, when Thaw dismissed his attorneys
and physicians.
Did Thaw protest that he was sane?''
asked Mr.. Delnlas.
He did"
And that is common declaration
of insane nersons?"
lit is a common experience with the
insaDe-yes. SIR
Did Thaw ascriba to himself any
particular function in dealing with the
subject that was on his mind %
Yes. He said it was his province to
look after the welfare of young girls