Los Angeles herald., 1907-09-15
ACCEPTS THE
FENDER Def
DR.. HAYNES DECLARES ECLIPSE
GUARDS PRACTICABLE
PACIFIC ELECTRIC SHOPS PUT AT
HIS DISPOSAL
HuntInaton's Manager Offers $500 Il
City Club Speaker VIII Demon-
strate His Views Strictly Ac-
cording to Ordinance

cli1b Yesterday, accepted tne cIldieh6o VI
General Manager ]. Mcmillan OF the
Huntington trolley lines to demonstrate
how an Eclipse fender could be fitted to
the Pacific Electric interurban cars ac-
cording to specifications of the city fender
ordinance.
DR.. Haynes has the privilege of using
his own mechanics or those of the COM
pany and will get $500 reward II ne oeHi-
onstrates his contention that the WORK is
practicable. Manager Mcmillan says IL
cannot be done.
Dr HAYNES. on the other hand, offers
N give $500 to the Salvation Army's Work
ing Girls home for every proved case
where the presence of an ECLIPSE lenoer
on an interurban car has caused ueraii-
ment
These counter challenges IolloWeu
spirited debate between DR.. Haynes rep
resenting the Voters league, ana MI.
Huntingto toms Representatives anu loinaSu -
sequel to he fender discussion neio d. iae'
weeks meeting of the CLUB.
Question after question was hred at
each speaker from the audience, and some
new points in the controversy were
pamaae Suits Cost $25o,ooo
For instance. Manager Mcmillan said
that the costs of damage suits paid OUT
by the company last year amounteo "
quarter of a million dollars.
This in itself was proof that tne COM
pany was anxious to make any Ieasipie
changes in equipment WHICH "ouiu Aes'SS-I
accidents and fatalities.
DIR. HAYNES began his remarks by say
ing iocosely that Mr., Mcmillan said ne
was from Texas, hence 1t behooved MIN
IN he careful in what he said about men
who come from gun-toting states
He recited the work of last year, when,
in pursuance of campaign Oh lnau,ry'
he addressed letters, as did Mayor NC
Aleer to cities all over the world re-
rarding street car accidents and pre-
ventive measures.
These showed that Los Angeles stood
high on the mortality list.
Out of this inquiry grew the fender
legislation
Comparisons Unfair
Manager Mcmillan in answering Dr.
Haynes first intimated that the ienoeI
laws were drawn up at the dictation' oi
the Eclipse fender interests.
eve will pay the doctor Handsomely
II he will show us how to attach THESE
Eclipse tenders to our 1nterurpan cars,
keeping within the city regulations. l
am not playing to the galleries, put
will cheerfuly pay $500 for that lnIor-
sI will take you up on that" said Dr..
HAYNES. s'and call on these gentlemen
as Witnesses ~ ~.
,"All right. we will take 1t up with the
mechanical engineers" responded MAI
aIrer Mcmillan. Were hunting any
diAce three witnesses who say tha'
when they called on Dr.. Haynes 70
demonstrate other tenders he said he had
NO time for Them as he was committed
to the Eclipse fender. :
Ordinance Defective
"we are cited to scattering cases of
the use of these tenders and their re-
suits. One of the lines is sixteen miles
long and uses six cars; another is Iorty-
two miles long and uses sixteen cars.
they do not compare with our system IN
anything, especially In magnitude anu
speed. @.,.,
..The doctor goes long way from
home for cases. Let him read from the
report of the state railroad commission
Of Massachusetts, 1t says:
II is hazardous to attach these auto
rnatic devices to the powerful hlgn speeo
interurban cars, which might be de-
rallied by these devices peins
into their way
.grhere are five patentees of tenders In
town now trying to sell new devices
from New York Kansas City, ONO, Ari-
IONA and San Pedro. None OF them COM
niles with our city ordinances. we 90
not want a change now we nave neen
70 a great expense to attach the Ecilpse
to our city cars. Lel 10 90
out of them first. ,x <
.sWhv Judge Frederickson himself, al
~ go ding the ordinance, said we were
between the devil and the deep sea.
eve are entirely willing to let the city
council and the peoples representatives.
uninfuenced by the raise sentlilen' l,et ~,
ated by two newspapers here, TO say wnat
70 do. We are entirely willing to com
ply with anything reasonapie. zap
nlause) We're open to convlctloh.
p'"Dr. HAYNES in telling of the scarcity
Of European accidents does not explain
that any person caught walking on
railroad right of way in Europe Is iiiiihe-
diately arrested and fined
"would that accident on the Covina
,ina this week have happened II three
nersons had not violated the law and lg-
pored signs warning them to keep on the
company's private right of way?"
Manager Mcmillan said 1t had peen
often shown that the Eclipse Ienoer WIZ ~
,not nick up a child. and seldom Will lt
nick nm a dummy. 1t will pick up dog
nv man because they usually jump
yyhich lands them back on the frame and
causes it to tilt automatically
pamaoe Suits Cost $22s,ooo
Answering questions at this point Man
cor Mcmillan made the statement that
last year the company had to pay s2SS'oOo
~ cite this to show that am not try
ing to discredit tenders It would De
poor policy to do So. NO lone one mo5e and check heck
the companies wants 10 aVoiu anu o"ee'
accidents and mortality.
Dr.. Haynes, in conclusion. accepted
Manager McMillan's tender of the Pa
cific Electric shops and men FOR expert
mental purposes, adding; .roo
II would not touch penny OF the sooo,
but | want to demonstrate tnat we can
save life and limb. And | want to add
that for every case where derailment
has been caused by the presence OF
Providence or Eclipse fender | VIII give
$500 separately to the Salvation Army