Perth Amboy evening news., 1907-02-19
THAW WAS CRAZY
WHEN He MARRIED
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companied by Mr.. Hartridge, and was
introduced TO Thaw. He asked me to
come into his cell and made room for
the to sit down ON his bunk. His eyes
were wide open and staring, showing
much of the whites. He was very
nervous shaking his head and shifting
his gaze constantly.
"As he sat down alongside me he
said to me: You have good sane eyes.
They are not like DR.. Hamilton's eyes.
l think DR.. Hamilton has crazy eyes
did not discuss this proposition with
him.
Il asked him how he felt. Thaw
said: L am the victim Of foul con-
spiracy. Lewis Delatield and the firm
of Black, Olcott, Gruber 4 Bonynge
are in plot with Jerome TO railroad
me to an asylum without giving me a
trial or permitting me to tell the judge
and jury the true inwardness of this
affair. ] am not insane 1t is all rot to
say am insane. They are prosecuting
inc. The whole lot of them are in col
lusion with Jerome to prevent me from
revealing the infamous conduct of
Stanford White. 1t is all one big
scheme to railroad me to an asylum on
the pretext that | am crazy About
this time his wife arrived After he
had seen her he retired with me to n
private room and continued his conver
sation with me.
"He said: stanford White has made
business of debauching young girls
He has led astray, drugged and poi
soned many innocent young women
who We're originally pure in body as in
mind and who were not inclined to
crime. The lawyers l hired to defend
me, having taken my money as a re-
| tainer, are now in a conspiracy with
| the district attorneys Office to sup
press all these facts in order to protect
Stanford Whites name. 1t is a plot
and l am not going to stand it, That
in effect made up our first cOnversa
ton"
when did you return again?' pur-
sued Delmas.
"On Aug 21,'' said Evans. "Dr. Wag-
ner accompanied me on this occasion.
We saw Thaw in the hospital ward
lcross the corridor from his cell.
"Mr. Thaw entered, with paste
board box under his arm. He seemed
agitated and uneasy and had that
anne queer stare and that same air of
exaggerated self Importance which l
have previously described. His atti-
tude toward us was one of manage
ment, as If we were infants and he
was our guide.
"His whole manner was uneasy and
watchful He seemed determined to
Keep both OF us within the range of his
vision. t4
"Then suddenly he said: Gentlemen,
this dead man whom I Killed, this
beast, this blackguard, this creature,
sought to take the virtue of every pure
minded woman he met. / did the best
could to stop this thing and to save
hese women. / had no desire to shoot
lim. l didn't want to kill him.
81 knew he was foul dog who was
destroying the good name of the wives
md daughters and sisters of the city of
New York and of America, but want
ed to do 1t legally. l wanted to get
Stanford White into court and expose
him and stop his practices. did not
1esire to kill him, but Providence took
charge of the matter.
cit was an act Of Providence that
took him Off But first l had tried to
halt him by lawful means. l went 10
Comstock, but 1t did no good. L went
to Jerome, and Jerome advised me to
let 1T drop saying there was nothing in
The stories l told him about Whites
practices.
"I went to detectives, but they said
they could not get enough proper evi-
dence to convict White in court, al
though they said they had discovered
plenty of evidence of Whites wicked
ness. / found that one of Comstocks
lawyers, De Lancey Nicoll, was also
Stanford Whites attorney
"T was willing to submit those
whom l love to the ignominy of a
court examination in order to convict
Stanford White. / wanted to show
that White had three ways Of degrad-
ing young girls-by drugging them, by
plying them with alcohol and by lur-
ing them to his dens and dives and
overpowering them
"Thaw expressed no anxiety regard
ing his own personal fate while max
ing these statements, He showed ex-
element only when describing to me
Whites alleged conduct and the alleg-
ed conspiracy which he said now ex-
listed with purpose of keeping his
story from the public l asked him
why he carried a revolver. He an
swered me as follows:
" Roger O'Mara of Pittsburg advised
me to do so. | knew that Stanford
White was hiring thugs to hurt me.
Several times they tried to get me in
quarrel by jostling against me. l
had been Informed that White had
hired members Of the Monk Eastman
gang to bring on trouble with me and
then to kick me to death or mutilate
me. When / told O'Mara all this he
advised me to carry a gun to protect
myself. | did carry it for that pur-
pose and not with the intention OF