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The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27
Take Notice.

Mrs. DR.. Coon will hold special meet
ings Sunday evening at 7.45 p. M. and
will lecture on @spiritualism' In the A,
o. u, Nv. hall.
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fortune II was To be III attendance, The
decorations were protuse and consisted
of roses. ferns and ch,ysanthemuIns
most artistically arranget which added
greatly to the beauty of the scene.
About $50 guests were present and all
were In their happiest mood, enjoying
the hospitality Of the Club until q late
hour.
Miss nellie utxinger returned on Tues
day night from an extended visit with
Mrs. 0glesyie nee Miss Caroline Young,
OF Vancouver, b. q.
Mrs. Frank Patton entertained on
Tuesday afternoon In honor cf Miss
Sue Elmore. About 20 ladies we're In at.
tendance and highly interesting musi-
cal program was rendescd
Miss Olga Heilborn delightfully."- en-.
tertaincd the Thursday Club this week.
Mrs. q. A. Bell. nee Miss I.ottie Bennet,
of Portland. was present as guest Of
honor.
The ladies OF the Thursday afternoon
Five Hundicd Club, were entertained by
Mrs. u. A. Fisher at her home on Grand
avenue and Twelfth street this week.
The fortunate prize winner being Mrs.
NJ. r. Brooks
The u. M @. ID. Club held their week.
~ meeting at the home OF Miss May
utzinger on Tuesday evening. The club
was delightfully."- entertained.
Mrs. A. ID. Garner gave an afternoon
In honor Of Miss Sue Elmore on Wednes.
day. A large number OF Miss Elmore's
friends were present and a pleasant aft.
ernoon was spent by all the guests.
The Elite Club has issued invitations
for a dancing party to be given on the
evening Of November ist at Lcgan's
Hall.
The ladies Of the Birthday Club oi
Holy Innocents' Chapel were entertained
by Mrs. o. r. Morton on last Saturday
afternoon.
Cards have been issued for the wed
ding OF Miss Sarah Anna Mclean Il
Mr.. Howard Linsay knight on Wednes'
day afternoon, November 18th, at tht
Presbyterian Church.
| Mrs. A. r. Cyrus and Mrs. 8. J. Bel
land are In Eugene this week attending
the annual state convention Of tn,
| Women's Christian Temperance Union.
! Mrs. A. Bremen held an "at home
on Wednesday afternoon.
Mrs. Charles Goddard entertained OF
i Wednesday Of this week.
Mrs. Graham gave social Afternoon
on Tuesday at her home on Exchange
street.
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All ems 81 social or
h Asoan oce phone No communication win BE-
than 10 o'clock saturday of
later then tha
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

YOR SALE--l6 HORSEPOWER IN.
~ and 20 horsepower boiler; small
- Toeaers l0-ls-tf.
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KOTCE-sEALED PROPOSALS FOR

KO1CE-sEALED PROPOSALS FOR
the erection and completion Of boiler
SOON and chimney on the property Of
ne r. d. w. Co., known as the Page
block, will be received by the under
signed at the Astoria National Bank,
where the plans and specifications may
b. sen, up to the 25th day Of October,
Do7. The Company reserves the right
b reject any or all bids.
Astoria, Or, Oct. Is. 1907.
G. r. HIGGINS,
Secretary the F. q. w. Co.
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A number of friends of Miss l.ieaen'
weber we're entertained at her home on
Friday evening. The evening was passed
with music and games and at late
hour refreshments we're served.
The rooms were prettily decorated. the
dining room ii pink sweet peas and the
parlors IN white, Among those present
we're Miss " Buscy, Miss Bishop, Miss
A. Blinn. Miss Belland. Miss 4. knud.
sen, Mrs. u. Lowe. Mrs. II. y. Leinen.
weber. Mrs. NJ II. Ieinenweber, Mr., Me-
Neelan, Mrs. Il. Nyman, Mr., II. D.
Chandler, Mr.. G. A. Smith, MIR. II. Van
Tuyl, and II. b, Leinenyeber
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

1OY 7O DO LIGHT WORK IN The
sszntry; good home; wages accord
Eur 10 work done. Apply "M. p" care
Ast0rian office.
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EDS WANTED FOR MOVING HOUSE
Ut 4s6 Tenth street,; address for par
siculars, Mrs. T. Grange. l26 Thirteenth
.tv.et portland l0-22-3t.
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FOR SALE

T0R sALF-A FRESH JERSEY COW
icr sale. Apply Tongue Point Lum-
- lo-26-6t.
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NIANTED-YoUNG MAN NOT IN
asr is years Of age to learn candy
making in all its details. Hoeiiers.
lO-lS-tf.
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Thursday nlgnt at the Redmen's Hal
on Exchange street, the Women of Wood
craft were pleasantly surprised by q
number Of their friends. who came in
after the business meeting, bringing q
delicious lunch.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The reception on Wednesday evening
rendered the members Of the Astoria
Chamber Of Commerce, their wives and
the ladies OF their families, by the Irving
Club. at their beautiful and well APP
pointed rooms in the Savings Bank
building, was one Of the swellest affairs
that has been given in society for long
time. The committee in charge was com
posed OF Messrs, c. A. Calender. @. w.
Sanborn. c. A. Coolidge. A. A. Finch
and George Nelson ably seconded by
their wives. The ladies present were
elegantly gowned, evening dress pre-
dominating. Cards ami billiards with
music helped to make the happy hours
pass swiftly. The menu was most de-
licious and varied and was enjoyed 10
the fullest extent by those whose good
Mrs. Frank Deveny was the hostess at
a card party given ip st. Mary's hall on
Tuesday night A large number were
present, Progressive Whist was played
and the ladies' first prize was won by
Mrs. Pat Kearney, the consolation prize
by Miss Alice OfConnor. The gentle
mems first prize was won by Mr.. ]. J
Z ID 4
Leonard and the consolation prize was
given to Mr.. Gassney. Coffee and cake
was served after which the floor was
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The Relief Corps held their regular
meeting Friday night and all arrange
ments were perfected for holding a sale
Of fancy and useful articles on November
sth. A tea will also be given in conjunc-
tion with the sale.
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l HOUSE Il MOVERS. 3, I, ],

~>--~~--->-~~~S--e->-~<~->-~
FREDRICKS0N BROS--We make d
speciality Of house moving, carpenters,
contractors, general jobbing. prompt at
tention to all orders. Corner Tenth and
Duane.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The @. "A. r. royalty entertained the
ladies OF the Relief Corps on Wednes'
day evening. Mrs. Cleveland gave an
interesting talk. A delicious luncheon
Of coffee. sandwiches and cake was sery'
ed. Those present spent an enjoyable
evening.
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MISCELLANEOUS.

THE OREGONIAN AGENCY IN THE
future will be located at lI9 Eleventh
,.,.st nbone Main 37ll. I0-25-3t.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

SOCIETY-ONE n. ". y, ..... \.
On Tuesday Nxening, at the home ot
his parents, MIR. and Mrs. Mattson. On
Commercial street, Master Marshall
Mattson was rendered . most agreeable
surprise party. The occasion being his
fifteenth birthday. The young people
were pleasantly entertained with music
and games, A delicious luncheon con,
sisting of Ice cream. cake. grapes, candy
and nuts was served. The young host
received d number of handsome and use
ful gifts and all present spent an enjoy.
able evening.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27
CLASSIFIED ADVERTISING.


WANTED YOUNG LADY 10 At
tsrad Office; one that understands the
Finnish language; call between the
aonrs of , and i p. n. On Friday or
zatunisv at liz Tenth street. lO-25.2t.
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cleared and dancing engaged In until
midnight.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The u. M @. ID. Club held their week.
~ meeting at the home Of Miss May
utxingcr on Tuesday evening. The club
was delightfully."- entertained.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

Mrs. A. ID. Garner gave an afternoon
In honor Of Miss Sue Elmore on Wednes.
day. A large number of Miss Elmore's
friends were present and a pleasant aft.
crnoon was spent by all the guests,
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

WANTED TO BpY-HoUsE AND LOT
IN Astoria. Address aHy IT, care AS
sorian ofiiee. Give full paftiqulars.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The ladies' OF the Thursday afternoon
Five Hundrcd Club, were entertained by
Mrs. u, A. Fisher at her home on Grand
avenue and Twelfth street this week
The fortunate prize winner being Mrs,
NJ. r. Brooks
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

RoR SALE-TWO LOTS IN ASTORIA
"a one in Wanenton; win asll cheap.
Aa1ba,s sJ,s Astoriaa oface.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The Elite Club has issued invitations
for d dancing party TO be given on the
evening Of November lst al Lcgan's
Hall.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

The ladies Of the Birthday Club Of
Holy Innocents' Chapel were entertained
by Mrs. o, r. Morton on last Saturday
afternoon.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

Miss nellie utzinger returned on Tues
day night from an extended visit with
Mrs. 0glesyie nee Miss Caroline Young,
OF Vancouver, b. q.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

Mrs. Graham gave social afternoon
on Tuesday at her home on Exchange
street.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

Miss Olga Heilborn delightfully."- en-
tertained the Thursday Club this week
Mrs. G. A. Bell. nee Miss Lottie Bennett
of Portland. was present as guest ol
honor.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1907-10-27

Cards have been issued for the wed.
ding Of Miss Sarah Anna Mclean to
Mr.. Howard Linsay knight on Wednes.
day afternoon, November 18th, at the
Presbyterian Church.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
ELSA WAGNER
 DIES BY OWN HAND

occurrence; and he had never mo- ticed any signs of mental distress on her part, excepting that she suf- fered from nervousness.
 John Samuelson testified that the deceased had appeared in perfect good spirits on the trip from Nome to the creeks, and stopped along the road and took snapshots at num- Der of different places.
 The jury, which was composed of Fred Loop, R. Davenport, c. H. flaw kins, J. Westby, F. H. Andrrson and W. H. Smith, after a few minutes consideration returned a verdict to the effect that the deceased met her death through pistol shot self-in- hlcted.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
FINERAL ON WEDNESDAY,.

Mr. A. Schneider, French consul and Mr To. Sievers notifies us that the funeral of Albert Malassigne who was killed by accident, on No. 1 Dry creek, will take place on next Wednesday morning at 10 o'clock from Lang & Nawratil's undertaking parlors and will then proceed to the Catholic church where the funeral services will be held.
 MT. Schneider and MT. Sievers will highly appreciate the presence of friends and acquaintances of the de- ceased.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
COMES TOO OFTEN.

Nick Foster, you are charged with being drunk and disreputable, said Judge Murane to a prisoner this afternoon. How do you plead?" After the prisoner had ad- mitted his guilt, the judge remark ed that he had been coming before the court too often of late, his av- craze being about once a week. He therefore imposed a sentence of twnty days at Chief McV eitty's fuel reduction works.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
MISSISSIppI CUTS CHANNEL
 THROUGH HEART MFN1pHIS
to the Daily Gold Digger.

Memphis, Tenn, Feb. 2.-The greatest portion of this town is still under water, and 1t is now generally believed that the river will change It's course and flow through the town permanently. The citizens are go- ing from place to place in the lower portions of the town In boats, and hundreds of people were rescued from the house tops in this manner. It is estimated that the loss will reach nearly a million dollars.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
MARTIN TROTEz GOT EVEN

Martin TroteZ, a vender of pea nuts, pop corn and fresh fruit, got a little too much of the red liquor yes terday and after some argument with the bartender was thrown out of the Cosy saloon. He retallated by punching several holes through the windows with his hands, cutting those useful members of the human frame very serevely. No arrests were made.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
RESTAURANT FOR NATTVEs.

A restaurant for the exclusive use of the natives has been opened on Front street, near the Staples build ing It Is understood that 1t Is being run by public subscription.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04

For specials see Crowley & POr. ter. Prices the lowest.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04

Nice selection of portieres, $2.5O pair. w. Delbar.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04

Eagle anniversary Ball, Feb. 0.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04

Our daily increasing sales is evi- dence of the superior values we offer.
 It's the great volume of business we do that enables us to sell on such close margin.
The Nome daily gold digger., 1907-02-04
Broken Lines Sale
 Now On

Owing to the extraordinary values offered during this sale we must posi- lively refuse to exchange all half price goods.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29

The town ofEast Carton, o.,
boasts a unique record. The Shaw
hotel is run by Mrs. Phoebe
staw. The postoffice is in charge
of Miss Nellie CIeator. The
church choir is composed of fe-
male voices, led by Mrs. Eva
Armstrong. The superintendent
of the Sunday School is Mrs. Mel
lie Hale. The teaching force of
the public schools is composed of
women. The superintendent is
Mrs. Annie Mawson. There has
not been a male doctor in the
town for several years, and near
ly all the husbands in town wipe
the dishes Kansas City Journal.
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Good Night.

Always send your child to bed
happy. Whatever cares may
trouble your mind, give the dear
child q warm goodnight kiss as
itgoes to its pillow. The memo
ry of this in the stormy years
which may be in store for the lit
tie one will be like Bethlehem's
star to the bewildered shepherds,
and yelling up in the hearts will
rise the thought, "My father, my
mother-loved mel" Lips parch'
ed with fever will become dewy
again at this thrill of tender mem
ories. Kiss your little child be-
fore it goes to sleep.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
Epitaph of a Man
Stung to Death.

Among the many curious in
scriptions that are to be found on
the tombstones that mark the
last resting place of some of the
early pioneers of the town of Man
chester one OF the most curious ii
what is known as the old Green.
house cemetery on a tombstone
erected in 1914 to the memory Of
Timoth Ryan. On May IL, 1874
he was attacked by his bees and
stung to death. The following
epitaph appears on his tomb.
stone:
A thousand ways cut short our days
None is exempt from death.
A hOneybse by stinginG me
Did step my mortal breath.
This greRo contains the last re
mat8S
OF my frail house of clay;
My soul n gone, not to return,
To one eternal day.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
WHEN COLUMBIA CROWNS
KYEH0 HAEKn
Her DEAD,



What has set the drums beag meath the tender skies May?
Why troop the children from the fields with flowers fresh and gay
see the verans gather in their butoned of blue
With here and there empty sleeve prove the rue
hear them talk of battles in their youth time long ago.
Where side by side they stood and met the onaugh the o
And the voice SILENT and each soldier bows his head
For well they know this sacred day Columbia her dead
The flag halfmast flying and the air filled with praise
Vi those who by the Nation stood throughout her trying days.
hen strobe the God of Battles in his fury oer the land
And crimson grew Potomaes tide and red the Rio Gande
When the tore the cedars the green wales South
here the blue bird builds her the mouth
But all snowy wings Peace above those fields spread
And Columbia like MOTHER to her gallant dead
No hear the rumble of the battles brazen car,
have to part the flowers fair to find the wounds of war;
L hear robin singing where the colonel bravely died,
And butterfly is hovring where the egion multiplied
The bugleis no longer heard fields love to name,
And the bloom beauty the sacred camps Fame
And down the street a-marchng with Old Glory their head
Come the veans for Columbia bids them all salute dead
Sleep of the bue the need praise you've won
Sleep the long, long hro in shadow and in sum-
The sweetest bloom that Nature yields lies the soders
And nevemore wars clarion notes shall break your peaceful res
The battle echoes vanish like distant cannon's boom,
Behold! Columbia gently lays wreath upon tomb
My chdren Peace be with you speaks she with dropping
"a head,
Then she kisses all the she has laid upon her dead
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
Resolutions Of Respect.

WHEREAS, It has pleased the
Supreme Ruler of the Universe to
remove from among US our worthy
Brother. b. o. Rairdon, who de-
parted this life May 6, 1907, in the
Goth year of his age; therefore
be it
Resozved, by the Officers and
Members of a Leon Council o.
o. A. NJ, No AZ.
First, That in the death Of
Brother Rairden our Council has
lost one of its best members and
wise Counselors and that while q
voice We have so long loved is now
stilled in death; We bow in hum.
BILE submission to the decree0 Of
Him that doeth all things we'll.
Second, That the bereaved fami.
ly has lost a kind husband, father
and friend, who has stood by them
in their trouble, and while their
hearts are now troubled, We ad-
monish to look forward to a re-
unin with him where death shall
never come for.
'There is no death the stars 20 down
To rise upon some fairer shore;
And brightin heavens jeweled crown,
They shine forever more"
Third, That We extend our re.
spect and sympathy to the bereav-
ed family and that these resolu.
tions be spread upon the minutes
of our Council, a copy sent to the
county papers for publication and
a copy given to the family of our
deceased Brother.
CHAs. NJ. WOLFE,
BYRD STONE,
e. 81. BuRDETT,
Committee.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
The Funniest Joke.

Looked in the breast Of Silver
Simpson, of Minneapolis, is the
funniest joke of the season. But
while the world frets to know
it and Simpson is dying to tell It,
the owner of the painful tidbit 10
restrained by the knowledge that
if he does tell it he probably may
never be able 10 tell another.
For Mr.. Simpson almost died in
in his effort to let the world in on
the joke. He came ell the way
over to st. Paul to gee friend on
Wabash street. But when he
started to tell 1t he laughed 90
hard that he dislooated bis jaw.
he was taken to police headquaT.
ters, where the ambulance sur.
geons set his jaw and then express.
cd curiosity regarding the joke
that could do such an awful thing
to q man. Simpson started to tell
the joke and laughed and-pop
went the jaw again. This time the
surgeons bound his jaw 30 tightly
that he could only giggle. but he
said in writing that he fears 10
try again to tell the joke because
its so good it's enough to break the
bandages.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
The Good Little Cent.

DR.. Munhall recently closed q
successful religious campaign In
Emporia, Kan. A great many
pennies had been put in the Offer
ing, and his attention was cslled to
this. One night he held up q siI-
yer dollar and a copper penny,
and gave q conversation held by
the two coins. "You poor little
red cent, you; you don't amount to
anything I'd hate to be you."
said the big dollar. II know 1 am
not very big" replied the cent.
"but the children like me, and 1
can bny a good many things"
"Huhl you can't buy anything at
all" said the dollar. Just look at
me, big and bright and shiny.
/ can buy a whole lot more than
you can." MAY be SO" said the
little red cent, meekly, "but 1 go
to church heap oftener than you
do, anyway"
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
"A Year Without
a Summer

During the extraordinary year
of 1916, according to the best REQ.
ords. January and February, were
warm and spring-like. March was
oold and stormy. Vegetation had
gotten we'll on in April, when real
winter set in. Sleet and snow fell
on II different days in May. In
June there was either frost OF
snow every night but three. The
snow was five inches deep for ssv-
eral days in succession in the in
terror of New York. and ten inches
to three feet in Vermont and
Maine. July was cold and frosty;
ice formed as thick as window
panes in every one of the New
England states. August was still
worse, ioe formed nearly an inoh
thickness and killed nearly every
green thing in the United States
and in Europe. In the spring Of
1877 corn which had been kept
over from the crop of 1916 sold
from FIVE to ten dollars q bushel,
the purchases made for seed. On
May 10, 1885, snow fell to the
depth of foot in jamestown,
Va, and was piled up in hugh
drifts in most of the northern
States.
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Wonderful Eczema Cure.

"Onr little boy had eczema for
five years." writes N. A. Adams,
Henrietta, Pa. 1.-Two of our home
doctors said the case was hopeless,
his lungs being affected. We en-
ployed other doctors, but no bene-
ct resulted. By chance we read
about Electric Bittere; bought q
bottle and soon noticed improve
ment. We continued this medicine
until several bottles were used,
when our Toy was completely our
ed" Best of all blood medicines
and body building health tonics.
Guaranteed by all druggists, 500.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
MY Best Friend,

Alexander Benton, who lives on
Rural Route l, Fort Edwards, N,
Y. says: "Dr. Kings New Discov-
cry ismy best ebTtaly friend. Il
cured me of my aithmR six years
ago It has also performed q won.
derful cure of inoipitent consum.
ption for my sons wife. The first
bottle ended the terrible cough,
and this accomplished, the other
symptoms left one by one. until
she has perfectly we'll. DR.. Kings
Few Discovery power over coughs
and oolds is simply marvellous
No other remedy has ever equaled
1t. Fully guaranteed by All
druggists. 500 and $l.00. Trial
bottle fres.
The weekly register. [volume] (Point Pleasant, Va. [W. Va.]) 1862-1909, 1907-05-29
Only BeardIess
Conductors Will Be Employed by
Western Railroad

The Burlington Railroad Com
pany has issued from general
headquarters an order requiring
all conductors employed on its
5000 miles ofline to remove their
whiskers, if they have them, or
explain why not. The order
caused CONSERVATION, especially in
Iowa, where the partiarchl beard
rivals the corn crop.
The Burlington officials have
gathered together and resolved
that the human face unadorned
is adorned the most. They also
have ordered white vests and
white ties. The order is an aes-
thetic one, they say.