The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-06-11
Why Trainmen Were Saved.


As TO the Independence depot affair,
Orchard said it was planned to blow
up the depot before the arrival of Il e
train. This was arranged ia save tka
trsinmen.
And you didn't intend to blow up
anybody but this depot, whicn was sim
ply a stopping place without an ageEt
or anybody -there?"
Yes, sir; we intended blowing up
me non-union men who took the tram
there"
Why did you want to save the train
mem" asked Richardson, with signifi-
cant infection"
sherman Parker said that one of the
men on the train had been a good wit
ness for him in the trials, and he did
not want him hurt"
But this was the same tram you
felt sore about not being selected 70
wreck"
Yes. sir
Orchard denied that he had talked 10
railroad detective Scott about the
plans to blow uD the depot and save
the train. He also denied that it was
on Scotts account he agreed to save the
train.
You expected to kill fifty men that
night?"
Il didn't know how many"
You thought the more the merrier.
didn't yOu?''
II wasn't thinking about it,"
You didn't care whether it was one
or one hundred, did you?'
Il wasn't thinking about it," repeated
the witness. somewhat sullenIy
Attorney Richardson asked Orchard
TO make a pencil sketch of the indie
pendence depot, the railroad tracks and
the direction TO which he ran after the
explosion The witness promptly COM
piled, drawing the diagram with steady
hand.
Went to Denver for Pay.
Orchard said that after the explosion
he went to Denver with Johnny Ne
Vile and the latter's 14-year-old son
on the trip the elder Neville taxed
Orchard with the crime.
Did the boy hear this?" asked Rich
srdson.
I'VE tried to talk so he wouldn't"
But you were all three together"
Most of the time"
Do you say the boy couldn't hear
because you know he is still alive?"
Mo-
Reaching Denver Orchard went 20
Jack Simpkins' room. James Kirwan
now acting secretary-treasurer Of the
Western Federation of Miners, was
there, but went out before the Inde-
p6HQ60co affair was discovered. HaY-
wood and Pettibone came in later ana
said with Simpkins that it had been
a fine job"
Had lhey given you any instructions
about the AFFAIR.""
No, sir"
What did they say?"
Haywood asked how much money i
wanted. He said not to take too much;
that 1 could get more any time L want
ed"
There had been no arrangement in
advance to pay you single dollar for
this affair, had there ."
Il expected to get dollar yes sir"
Orchard said there was no particular
agreement about the Independence de- |
pot. He blew it uD as a part of his
general instruction % go ahead anG
cut things loose" He had been getting
money right along, but thought lie
could get more after doing the indie
pendence Job.
The time of the explosion at the In
dependence depOt was fixed at 2 a. m. |
At o'clock the same morning Richard |
son asked Orchard if it was not fact
that the supreme court handed down
a decision refusing to grant relief to |
Meyer. who was in Jail The witness |
declared he knew nothing about this |
Went to Wyoming.
After reporting in Denver about the |
Independence explosion Orchard said he /
and the Nevilles started on a camping !