The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 18??-19??, 1907-03-05

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this bin, how the two could be sep
aratcd.
Mr.. Graham contended that the con
ference committee could not report a
bill.
Mr.. Daniel asked Mr.. Graham why
lie Mr.. Sraham) asked that his bill
lie referred to the conference commit
tie, and Mr.. Graham replied that It
was merely to give the conference
committee information. and not TO be
passed upon. He said until the bill
shall have been introduced and passed
is several readings ii could not be
considered at all. He said of course all
lnew that he would not vote for the
{ Inference bill.
Mr.. Aycock said he was alarmed
and surprised at the position Of the
senators. The only thing the commit
tee could do, he said, was to do just
exactly what it did do. The bill IS q
product Of a committee Of conference,
and he said it was not i'll keeping with
legislation Of this time to amend a
difference committees report. The
report of conference is to be rejected
or adopted, n he asked what was
the use Of the report without
the law. If this re port should
be rejected, it would g out
To the state that there will be
~ rate legislation or a new commit
tee of conference must be appointed.
M. Pharr asked if rate legislation
would not be made if amendments
were permitted to this bill.
Nj. Aycock said the senate had been
amending for a month, had instructed
the conference committee. and was
now again trying to amend. He said
the committee reported a bill as the
committee had been Instructed to do.
lie said he departed from his own per-
1900, .@-a -a11 ~ - ~ no n ny.nn
had done. The bill was reported in or
dor that peace might be made, he
went to conference in the
interest Of peace and of harmony.
Mr.. Mclean asked if the Senate
had not voted for two rates.
Mr.. Daniel stated that the Senate
had also instructed the committee to
adopt q two and one-half cent flat rate
if two could not be obtained.
Mr.. Aycock said the House confer
ees had yielded two-thirds of their
position, and did not see proper to
yield more. He said if the COnferee'S
report were to be amended. on the 10th
of March the Senate would also be
amending cOnferees' reports, and the
reduction in passenger rates. and the
people of North Carolina would say
that the Senate had stood in the way
of rate reduction. He said those who
tried to defeat the report We're unkind
to the committee and to the Senate;
their position was unjust. n they
ought to say. he declared that they
oppose rate reduction. for that is what
their obstruction means. there is no
other issue Every MAJ cannot get his
individual views in a bin he stated in
conclusion.
Mr.. Mitchell arose to a point Of or
der that the ruling of the chair was
not debatablc; but the chair said the
limitation on the rebate We're on the
decision of the chair.
Mr.. Aycock said all he had desired
TO do in the conference was to bring
harmony and peace.
Mr.. Mason. in reference to the parIi-
amcntory tsatus of the affair sair that
in all his experience he had never
gotten into such n peculiar situation as
this. He recited the history of the rate
bills, their various stormy courses. and
said that he insisted that this was not
an ordinary conference committee, and
If it were it had gone far beyond the
ordinary power of conference COM
mitteeS, as it was foreign to both the
original house and the original SEN
ate bill, He said the matter was pre-
scented to the Senate that it must adopt
this bill or go nome without any legis-
1ation. and he believed no parallel
could be found in parliamentary history
tie declared that the query Of Mr.. Bux-
toH uIfeclc1 10 the chair
was g pertinent argument and
in favor OF his position. He held that
the conference bill was equivalent to
q new bill, and should so through
the ordinary course.
Mr.. Aycock asked how the Senate
could amend the Senate bill when it
had gone to the House, and had been
considered by the conference commit
tee.
Mr.. Mason confessed tha he did
not knoW where he was at and de-
c!ared he would never vote for this
Elil. even if there were never any
rate reduction.
MI. Buxton asked if the House had
not passed the same bill, and if it
had not come over from the House.
The chair read the message from
the House. which stated hat the
conference report had been adopted.
Nh. Buxton said the House had
adopted the report Of the conference
n had not adopted the bill. For
same reason best known to the chair
and the committee, he insisted. the
chair was pursuing an unusual course
and he declared that this was not the
roper course. No matter how dis
tinguishcd the members of the confer
ence committee may be, he said. they
cannot make the laws for North Caro-
ina, because the constitution stands
in the way; and he asserted that OF
the ruling of the presiding officer was
right, the constitution of North Caro-
lima. which required that every 5itl
shall be read three times in both
houses before it becomes a law, W1>
q mere by-Way. He declared that
this provision Of the constitution mast
be obeyed. He said if the ruling al
the chain was correct the railroads
would drive right through The BIZ.
He said he knew the labors of Ihe
conference committee were aruuous:
they marched uD the bill ana then
marched down again: they disreSarded
the cypress wishes OF the Sena-": tn
committee had adopted q bill Amos
II, !,tipal with The bill Of Mr. Daniel,
Mr.. ~ ock had stated on no t.tn
tlilt IL N&S III favor of the ..rGet
Ill ana had got on the "on"t.:tee,
Nj N..!,b had stated that ne ..,~ II
favor of a flat rate and he was APP
pointed 80 tn. committee. rhe liai
vi. WAS for 1-2 cents or to are,
E, u+i Lot set within q gun hot If lie
crtnt ittCe. h declared. Tue i.uIlt
~ \,ath Carolina. he said. we're noi
tpufs and rouid see Why that a%ppoint
III. II WlS n1d". He roDru that ;ll:'
" I'll TT - cited in tn" t.Irdr@ as !.
precedent for the government of con.
fcrcncc committees. What will
be tho effect of it, when We