davidaulloa/AmericanStories huggingface dataset:
The Wahpeton times. [volume] (Wahpeton, Richland County, Dakota [N.D.]) 1879-1919, 1907-12-26

NORWAY.
On Nov. 20, 1907, the Egersund
church was 300 years old. It has an
interesting history, and ranks with
the best known houses of worship in
Norway.
The find of ancent remains at Jae.
deren continues to attract attention
and is being studied by scholars from
abroad. DR.. Almgren Of the Swedish
state historical museum, a high au.
thority on such subjects, compares
the find with those at Sjelland and
Majelmose. He thinks favorably of
the views expressed by Professor
Broegger Of Christiania that the Re-
mans throw much light on the migra-
ton of the people to Norway and set
Element therein during the stone
aga.
The Wahpeton times. [volume] (Wahpeton, Richland County, Dakota [N.D.]) 1879-1919, 1907-12-26

A farmer near Lidgerwood placed a
500 bill in bureau. The rats left
enough scraps so he could have the
bill redeemed.
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
Spring Skirts

We have just unpacked and have on
display for our spring opening the most
complete assortment of Silks and Voiles
in blacks, checks, plaids and stripes in
the new patterns. Also large line of
Under Skirts in HeatherbIoom and Taf-
fetas.
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
Easter Hats

trimmed in various shades of ribbons flowers foliage lace
wings quilts plumes, and everything give hat that
neat artistic and stylish effect This department under
the supervision of an artist in this line We have all new
styles direct from the originators
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
SATISFACTION
Or Your Money Back
Millinery Opening

Tomorrow we will have display the most complete
line of new Spring Hats for Ladies' Misses and Children
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
Collars
Novelties

sS sa :
p in
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
The Spring Opening

in our Suit Department is sure to interest every
lady. We have had experienced buyers in the east
buying for the spring trade We have not consid-
cred the expense in having these goods shipped by
express. The one aim was to make our opening
the most attractive ever held in Occur d'Alene We
have the latest styles Of Silk Pads and Stripes in
all coors, in jumper and strap effects. The lady,
wardrobe is not complete this spring without one or
more Of these suits
We also have suits Of Wool Voiles, Panamas,
Cheviots and wool mixtures in Plaids, Checks and
Stripes, including the popular light gray colors
The Coeur d'Alene press. (Coeur d'Alene, Idaho) 1906-1907, 1907-03-14
Spring Opening in Suit Department
Misses POneta jacket Suits

We have given the most careful attention to the
Suits for the young ladies, and in this department
we invite your special attention, our stock Of
Misses Poneta Jacket SUITS in close fitting and box
effects most attractive suits for the young ladies'
These suits are in all shades including Plaids and
Checks. The workmanship on the Misses Suits is
the best. The styles are similar to ladies' suits but
giving girlish effects.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

order. Furthermore, the appoint
ment Of PAX Yung Ho is another evi-
dence Of the refusal Of the deposed
sovereign to surrender power. and
there Is reason to believe he IS plan
ming TO precipitate an outbreak on his
~ behalf.
to MARQUIS Ito. the japanese resident
general. that he has no control over
or communication with the army.
The former emperor is responsible
for four a~nti-Japanese cOnspiracies
since his abdication. The first con-
spiracy consisted IN ordering The i'm
perial guard 10 rush the palace upon
the night Of July l.: the second IS
found IN the defiance of the minister
Of war By the Korean army; the third
is the attack upon the police az the
Great Bell, which the Japanese have
proof TO show was led by an army
officer. and the fourth Consisted IN his
indirect manipulation Of the functions
Of the present emperor.
one Japanese w9as wounded yes
terday in front Of the Great Bell
Two villas belonging TO deposed
members Of the former cabinet were
burned last night. The electric plant
IS now under guard ana all night long
tho japanese town was under the vigil
lance of fire patrols.
Police reserves have arrived from
Tai Ko.
Sensational rumors are current that
three cruisers, with ability to land
1000 bluejackets. are making their
way to Chemulpo.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
RUG IMPORTER
81 AIN IN
STREET
REFUSED TO CONTRIBUTE
TO REVOLUTIONARY FUND
Armenian Kills Wealthy Fellow
Countryman in New York
Because He Would Not Help
Fight on Turkey

y Morning Journal Special Leased Wire. !
New York. July 22-As he stepped
out on the sidewalk from his store on
East seventeenth street. near Union
square. today. Hoenas Tavshanljan. "a
wealthy rug importer aud Persian
commissioner 10 the Chicago worlds
fair in 1898. was shot from behind
and almost Instantly Killed. The as
Eassin, a shabby dressed Armenian.
Wsa was arrested after q chase Of sew
eral blocks, declared. according to the
police. hat he came here from Chi
cagO especially to Kill The merchant.
The prisoner described himself as
beros Hampartzooriau. twenty-four
years Of age. of Chicago.
According to The police, the prison
or declared that he killed Tavshani-
ian because he refused to contribute
for the financing Of a revolution In
Armenia against Turkish rule. I
Killed him To ave my country" the
man told the police. We asked him
for money He had plenty He
would give nothing. Yesterday | came
from Chicago. ! met him. talked win
him He said. No, no. many times.
He would give no money 10 us-his
countrymen."
The shooting occurred at a busy
h0ur ~ the day In the heart Of the
crowded district. and caused much
excitement The assassin was pursued
BY b%Nstanders. and when closely
pressed. turned and fired on them
with u revolver. seriously %wounding
Robert Brown, tWenty-six years old,
a clerk. He was captured and over
powered by several policemen.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
HARTMAN LINES CUT
TARIFF ON COAL TO WEST

Chicago. July Ell. G.. Stubbs.
traffic director Of the Union Pacific
ana oregon short Line. today issued
the following statement.
'"rhe Union Pacific and the oregon
short Line are cndeavoriug Co induce
consumers OF coal along their respec-
tive lines to store coal against the
greatly Increased consumption of the
winter months. For this reason they
have offered twenty-five cents per ton
reduction in tho freight rate and TWEEN
ty-five cents per ton reduction in he
price II coal additional FOR coal ship
ped during the months of July and
August. and iu store on August 81.
1907. having received the authority "
D. interstate commerce commission
90 publish hat reduced rate without
giving the usual thirty days notice"
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
FOREIGNERS REFUSED
MILITARY PROTECTION

Seoul, july 22.-The japanese resi-
dency general places the whole re-
spOnsibility for the arrests made this
morning on the throne. disclaiming
Intervention which. II Is asserted,
would be an unnecessary invasion into
affairs which are purely Korean. or
account of the fact that every Japan
csc soldier here Is needed TO guard
the barracks Of the Korean troops.
guards have been refused To- w.
houses Of foreigners In the suburbs
ana their occupants. who have been
threatened in ANONYMOUS communI-
cations. have been given refuge In the
foreign quarter Of the city.
Reinforrements Of japanese troops
are not expected until July "a. and IL
Is impossible now to Adequately patrol
the whole city. So as to prevent the
gathering OF the mobs which have as-
scmbled during the last two days
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
WANTS HILL TO GIVE
UP TEN MILLION
Stakeholder Claims Northern
Railroad Man Should Dis
gorge PdftS of Northern Sc
cutitieS Merger

- ~ - 49, wv"
So. Paul. MINI. July 22-Clarcnce
D. Neuuer. of New York. wants James
D. HUl To cou Tor and disgorge
1u alleged profit of 1O.0oo.Ono which
Npuncr claims Hul made loo the deal
whereby the Great Northern and the
Northern Pacific Railway companies
acquired the capital stock 90 The Chi-
clgu. burlington and quincy Ncuucr
began "a suit against Hil and the
Great Northern Railway company in
the Ramsey county district court. the
complaint being filed late today. in
which be alleges that HNn w~rnngfullN
and fraudulently. while acting in his
capacity as president ~ the Great
Northern Railway company. acquired
stock nf the Chlcngo. burlington and
Quincy railroad Gao prices averaging
about $3.50 per share. and that DE n-
Iueed the board 10 directors of the
Great Northern to pay &2oo per share
Tor the stock He claims that Hill
thereby made q profit 70 more than
$40 nHn. 0ua. Nenncr sues as p
holder ~ see shares 81 Great Norih-
ern stock and asks The court to com-
uei HII o. account Tor hAs profits
and Oh uaN to the Stockholders 90 tho
Great Northern the aleged Ucgal
gains
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
RrieInnn Racc Rc-nIt..

New YORK. July 22-First Race
six furlonrs. selling |Jacohite. won,
Badncss. second. G~oldenWcst. third.
Time. liza 4-5.
Second Racc-Steeplcchlse. about
two and ont-half miles Good and
Plenty, Won. Or. Keith. second.
Grandpa. third. Time. 451
Third Bacc-Miie and one-six-
tecnth star Cat. won. Workmaid.
second; Chief Hayes. third Time.
T. A. 8-5.
Fourth Race-The Undergraduate
stakes; five and one-half f|urlongs.
Gene Russell Bell Wither. src-
und. CoTncoh third Time. 1-09 8-5.
Fifth Racc-MIle and oue-sIN-
feeufh- Running Water. won. Seine
pa. second. Sonoma Bell third Time.
i tells
sixth RaCe-Flvc and unc-hulf fur
longs tie knows won. WOODLAND.
second Single stone. third. Time.
I oe as.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
KOREAN STATESMEN
ACCUSED OF CONSPIRACY

seoul Korea. Iuly ga discovery
nf Ia plot against fhr throne resulted
DID, fl~ arrest TO-DAY 90 one CT the
elder statesmen Of Korea. together
With PAX Nunr 10. who Nos erllY
Hr appointed minister 70 The imna-
nni household. NJ ho Chal grand
rhamherIaln 81 the former emperor.
ana fanr Korean officer
Thr Intervention ~ the former em-
perHr ln the amalrs ~ TODAY j. etI-
drr.el hE thc fact that DEL prevailed
upon hls son. the present emperor. goo
ref1a hIs signature fu r. proclamation
VAS in calm the people and restore
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
SOLDIERS ESCORT
ITALIANS TO PEN
Elaborate Precautions to Pre-
vent Lynching Of Convicted
Murderers of Kidnapped Boy
Near New Orleans,

Hahnville. La. July 22-Guarded
hy 2g0 soldiers, the four Italians con-
Victed of Walter Lamana's murder
and the two Gebbias who are yet Ca
be- tried for IL. were placed on a spe-
cial train bound for the state peni-
Tertiary at Baton Rouge tonight.
Extreme precautions were taken by
the military owing 10 the reports that
a wholesale lynching might be at
tempted during the trip. None except
police officers. soldiers and the train
crew were allowed aboard with tho
prisoners. Even a newspaper man
serving as q deputy sheriff was put
OFF the train.
The Gebbias. brother ana sister.
were taken 90 the p~cuitentiary for
safe keeping after the court had de-
cided today that public sentiment at
present makes a fair trial. impossible.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
Arr You Trsing 10 Use Every Adyertising
Medium

IrE mediums and schemes when nr tries
f hr is Iu tho position % the uruIfr uha
tried tH consume thc entire visible supply Hi
luuHr in She Interests 20 Temperance
Dc % marksman frifF CD $50 = dozen guns
at once De- nI stand less chance ~ rrnrh-
iue tns tareaf Than 90 De- used nut one and
aimed be- carefuuy
There e a ulie differenre between eraHf
.nf an aiefralug arnuauratian ana lnresi-
ine ff
lido wise adtcriirar cHrcfntrafHs hs c1m-
aIru H tha Hue best medium Boz hs ratI
De uses them az supplementary umas
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
VANDERBILT YACHT
MYSTERI0USLY MISSING
Icrt Newport week Ago for James
town: Not Heard From Since.

Norfolk. va. July 22.-Harold Van
dorbilt. brother of William *. Van
derbilt. Jr.. and Consuelo. Duchess OF
Marlborough. who left New London.
Conn, July 10 on his sloop yacht Tri-
via, en- route from Newport to the
Jamestown exposition, has not arrived
nor been heard from.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

ST. Louis. July 22.-Three deaths
and eight prostrations from the heat
were reported tonight The dead are:
Theodore BRENNAN and Louis b. HAT.
dair, man. and Elijah Yonis. a labor
or. The thermometer registered SO
degrees for four hours during the ar
fnruann
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

Baton Rouge, La. July 22.-The six
Italians were placed iu the state pcni-
Tertiary tonight. but not until after
their military escort executed "a bay
.onet charge To clear the way through
an immense crowd. Between 5000
and 5000 persons, about onc-thlrd
tho population OF Baton Rouge. was
at the Mississippi river ferry Co meet
the prisoners. Many threats We're
made. but no violence attempted.
The prisoners were not guarded IN
tho -penitentiary, the troops having
Immediately LEFT the city.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
Chicago .: New Yn~k y.
Philadelphia Wins Two Games

Philadelphia, July 22-Philadel-
phia took both games OF today's dou-
ble-header.
SCorc-First game: X II. T..
ST Louis. zoo 00t coo o. 3 l
Philadelphia 010 poo GOO IL 6 3
Battcrlcs-Karger and Marshall;
Richie and Doom
Scorc-Second game: Il. II. =.
ST. Louis ..0f0 OOu O00-1 3 .
Philadelphia 600 cog 2ln-5 s @
Batetrics-McGlynu ana Noonan;
Brown and Doom.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION

Al Kansas city. kansas CITY g. To-
iedo 8.
At Minneapolis Minneapolis G: In
d~iauapolis IS
Al Milwaukee Milwaukee s.
Louisville s.
Al Sd. Paul: 81 Paul T.. Colum-
bus S.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
Detroit 6: Philadelphia 3.

Detroit, July 22.-Five clean singles
In the eighth inning, with some lar
ing base running gave Detroit five
runs and :he game.
Score: r. II. Il.
Detroit .....000 100 O57-6 . 0
Philadelphia 012 600 00O-3 S o
Batteries-Mulliu and Payua; Plank
ana Powers.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

She declined TO be seen tonight re-
garding the disappearance Of her son,
but her secretary Sent out word To
the effect that Mrs Belmont knows
where her son is. The secretary
would mako no further statement.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

on pasn. July e2-At Leoncifn. y.
NJ. ten miles this side of where the
wreck Of yesterday occurred. fun
Rock Island freight trains afre ln cole
Nsiun to-day Engineer a. q Anderson
Del probably fatally injured. and Flre-
man W. u Percy seriously
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
NATIONAL LEAGUE


B0stOn, July 22.-TOday'9 game
Score: r. Il. r..
Pittsburg 300 000 100 600 f-5 10 s
Boston ...00t 020 0fO 600 Oh 10 3
Batteries Camnitz, Lieu Il ard
Gibson Dorncr, Young and Needha'n.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
Treasury Buys silver.

Washington. July 22.-Thc treasury
department today purchased 100000
ounces of silver Tor delivery a. New
orleans al 69.q23 cents per fine
ounce.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
Chicago aud Boston Tie.

Chicago. july 22.-Chicagl AMI
Boston played a twelve-inuiny tie to-
day.
Score: L. II. T..
Chicago .001 600 GOO 000-i 4 .
Boston ..010 000 600 600 9 o
Batteries-Altrock ana Sullivan;
Young and Armbruster.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

Manila, +. L.. July 22.-Major Pay
master Eugene Coffin has had his
left arm amputated as a result Of in
lection from handling money In pay
ing The troops. He was a veteran Of
the civil war and a member of the
old Mckinley regiment.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

Newport. r.. o.. July e2-Mrs q T.
belmont The former wife 10 William
X Vanderbilt and the mother % Har-
old s. Vanderbilt. Is az her residence
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
MAJOR LEAGUE
BASEBALL
GAMES SCHEDULED FOR TODAY.

American League.
Washington at Cleveland.
National League.
Chicago at New York.
Cincinnati at Brooklyn.
Pittsburg at Boston.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23
WESTERN LEAGUE.


Sioux city. July 22.-Aficr holding
Lincoln 90 first and second bases for
seven innings, Corbctt had a brain
Score, r. "a. r.
Sioux city col 100 1903 10 3
Lincoln ......0 oO % O1O-7 II I
Rattcries-Corbctt and ~Sheehan.
Zackert. Clcotte and sullivan.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

Brooklyn, July 22.-ManaEcr Hat
Ion won "a game from his Oil club to-
day.
score ". H. r.
Cincinnati ..O01 600 O0t-2 . ]
Brooklyn 900 col 0n0-l :
BATTERIES smith, CJ1klcy and Mo
Lean: Bel and Ritter.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

AMERICAN LEAGUE.


st. Louis. July IA batting raly
In the ninth won today for New YORK.
Score: X. II. ~.
st. Louis ...... 200 900 O02-f 10 .
New York ....000 100 005-6 10 .
Batteries-Glade and Spencer, KIT
son. Moore and Kleinow.
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

san Jose. cal. July e2.-Amour tht
pa scugcrS on the steamer Columbl
were Attorney "a J.. Partridge ANA
wife Of this CITY who were uu their
way 90 Portland for a northern Trim.
Mrs Partridge is a sister of James
Rea, capitalist ana politician other
passengers from here were Misses
Ruby and Lena Cooper of rsypffc.
Howard county. who were Boo This oi.v
last Thursday uu q visit 60 the cousin
Miss Vivian. head OF thc art depart
mont of the state normal school They
had been in attendance uf tho cduUI-
tional convention 40 Los Angeles ant
hat started ON their return homo el
I.-ILnnl
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

Oakland. July 22-Nr and Mrs
Leroy Smith. of This CITY. arr among
The missing passenger on tho Cnlum-
hiH and 70 is expected shat thst have
shared the tragic fate of many others.
only about "a year.
~ pasnans Amung thc Drowned.
~ paso. Texas. July aa=Amnuc
those who pcrished in Doe collision be-
tween the Columbia and "a Pedro
siea mships were Mr. and Mrs Thumas
CLARK. ~ this place Both wore it'e-
rrHuh operators Relative here MORO
notified by "a telegram
Albuquerque morning journal. [volume] (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1903-1926, 1907-07-23

? otkton. cat. July 2--Mrs. IT, q.
Shi ~, widow of the late head OF tho
u. 81 hnW Pillow company. was among
the passengers on the ul-fatcd Column.
hia She leaves "a brother. 49, T.. Hart.
and q sister, Mrs. n. W Williamson.
IS walter on the Columbia was
Charles r. Murphy OF his CITY. aged
90 Years A brother Daniel. g. a fire.
man here. Murphy Was a striking slr
Fro ncisco electrician.
The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1907-12-06
HOW SHALL THEY VOTE.

There are forty members of the state
senate. Since they hold Office for four
years, half of them, including six Demo
Gratis, will hold over at the next session
Of the legislature, while the odd num-
bered districts will hold elections for
new senator's.
| The sections of the primary law re-
quiring the candidates for the legislature
to take oath that they will support the
candidate for the U. s. senate that is
selected at the primary or general elec-
tion, of course does not apply to tho
holdovers, Hence there Is already some
discussion as to the proper action of
these as representatives of the people.
AS things look at the present time, it is
quite possible that these unpledged
senators will be sufficient in numbers to
control the selection of the u. s. sena-
tor.
Now what will they doS What ought
they to dos Shall they consider the
wishes of their own immediate consti-
ltuents who elected them or. shall they
take the choice of the whole party all
ever the states Or, as they are under
mo special obligation to vote otherwise,
shall they use their own individual
judgment as they would in other mat
ters that came before them?
Suppose for instance that the primar-
les made no choice; that the plebiscite
in the succeeding election gave MI. Mar
shall 10000 votes and Mr.. Hanshroagh
10,O0l votes and Editor Taylor of the
LaMoure Chronicle was hold over
senator and held the deciding vote in
the succeeding legislature, how would
t he be expected to cast ais ballot? II Mf.
Winship was in similar position how
would he probably votef
Both Of these gentlemen are discuss
ing politicol questions at this time in
their respective papers, will they decide
for us as to the proper proceeding in
such case? We would like to hear from
them.
The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1907-12-06

There are great many people in
North Dakota who would like to have
William LaMonre announce himself as
a candidate for secretary of state. Now
that Mr.. Blaisdell, the present incumb.
ent, has concluded to stand for one ot
the congressional nominations, there is
an open field for that position. "Billy"
LaMoure is liked by everybody who
knows him. His services in the secre.
tary of states's Office have made him
familiar with the duties of the Office. He
is a young man of good principals, is
energetic and competent, and the Record
believes he would make good showing
at the primary polls. s.-Emmons County
Record.
The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1907-12-06

At the r. G. church in Neche on Nov.
9th occurred the marriage of Mr..
Arthur E. NORM and Miss Rosanna
Chale by Rev. FIR. Forbes, in the pres
ence of the relatives of the pair. After
the ceremony the party drove to the
home of the brides parents, nine miles
from Neche where wedding dinner was
served Both these young people are
well known in neighboring towns and
have many friends who extend congra-
tulations.
The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1907-12-06

One Of the old time politicians of the
territorial days, who is now dead. once
caused puch amusement in state con
vention by his protest againstithe regu
lar habit that the delegation from Penn
bina had of voting as "eunuch." II
must have pretty nearly made the ole
gentleman's bones restless in his grave
if conscious, to have heard the 'sunit'
delegate from Pembina county demand
to be allowed to cast the vote Of the full
delegation what ever number thai
might have been at the ate''conference'