The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-08-10
BONAPARTE SEES ROOSEVELT
iHLI SW lP IDEAS on THE PROSE
CTTION or CRIMINALS.
II rhc, Oct a Good case Against = Man
msher Up II VIII ne Pushed -Anywsy
The Hartman Gases Will he Heard
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from soon sorry for standard OH.
Artorney-G General Bonaparte perched
briefly upon Manhattan last evening in the
course Of a swallow flight to Baltimore
from Oyster Bay. where he had had what
VAS practically an all day chat with Presi-
dent Roosevelt. MIR. ~Bonsparte wore mys-
rerious but pleasant smiles when he was
greeted by anxious inquirers for news
upon his arrival at Long Island City. Also
u might be mentioned that he wore a white
wsistcoat with his blue suit and carried a
small and noncommittsl leather covered
arrangement that probably contained things
more engrossing than a toothbrush. but
which naturally suggested to one cabby to
cry: Want a keb. doc2"
Criminal prosecutions in the rebate
cases." repeated the Attorney General
When asked what he and MIR. Roosevelt
he'd talked about besides the weather. Il
IAN assure you that the President. by the
way, never has enjoyed better health In
fact. I've never seen him looking
oh. Hartmann? Well, OF course l can't
60 into all that was discussed between the
President and me to-day further than that
me OF the principal matters taken up was
The Interstate Commerce Commission's
recent report on the Hartman lines. We
discussed the best means OF getting at the
rebate offenders and We also talked over
the question of criminal prosecution"
Then criminal proceedings are to be
legun against MIR. Hartman. Mr.. Rookie
feller and others2" Mr.. Bonaparte was
asked.
Il haven't said So the Acknowledgement
,cturned with "A smile. Il said they we're
discussed. Please let me make it clear
that nothing happened to-day in our talk
that will he worth red headlines in the
newspapers"
81 you have been quoted az saying
Il was suggested to MIR. ~Bonaparte, that
one criminal conviction against the men
highest up woul do more to correct the
rebate evil than all the fines and civil pro-
oeedings put together
Well, that's putting it a bit strong
corrected Mr.. ~Bonapsrte, with more smiles.
Before ! should wish to see criminal pro-
ceedings begun I should insist that FIRST OF
all we had a case that a lawyer felt reason
ably sure would mean n conviction-what
a physician would call a good case. And
we want it against the man or men higher
mp. There is no Use in going after the
small fry. II we feel we AVE such a case
it will he pushed against the individual or
Individuals to the limit. These things are
a matter Of the future.
The President and I talked over so many
things to-day that really l can't remember
what they were all about, We went over
some appointments, for instance, and We
discussed at length the Western land frauds.
subject In which the President is very
much interested. The woods are full OF
he land frauds out there, and we shall
push the criminal prosecutions against the
sinners as fast as possible. As for the
Hartman cases, I shall say only that some
thing will be heard Of them from the De-
rartment Of Justice within a month";
Did you go into the Standard OIL fine
with Mr.. Rooseveit?" the Attorney-Genera
was asked.
Yes, that was gons into was the snswsr.
The Standard fines wa one Of the principal
subjects discussed. Will the fine have to be
paid? Well, that ID q matter Of the future.
TOO. First Of all We must have q decision
IN the appeal. After that"-and h Bona
rarte smile v~idsned--we shall try to con-
vince them that fines must be paid"
Mr.. Bonaparte was asked whether fines
amounting to $40, 54O, 900 against a COM
pany capitalized at only si.OOO,OO0 left a
loophole Of any sort for the defendant
company.
That's another ~conundrum," was the
answer. with more smiles. -AIi these mat
ters are Of the future. Will he other in
dictments against the Standard Oil be
pnshed2 In all probability I think they
will be taken up as soon as practicable and
pushed as far as possible
Did Mr.. Roosevelt seem especially
pleased over the Standard finss7"
The Attorney General gazed out over the
Fast River for some moments.
Well he drawled after q little while.
@both Mr.. Roosevelt and ! are naturally
very sorry for the poor old Standard Oil,
and we sympsthize with her deeply"
Mr.. B~onaparte. when asked whether the
slump in Wall Street was caused by the
Big Stick being slapped around h~aphazard.
replied that he is a lawyer and not a Wall
Street expert. but that in his humble opin-
ion the slump was due solely TO general
conditions" He said Inc President had
had several other visitors. but his talk with
the President was entirely private
Mr.. Bonaparte got to Oyster Bay on the
1914 train and hurried right out to Saga
more Hill, He remained there until q
o'clock and raced down TO the railroad
station just in time to catch his train.
We talked about many things said the
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT in the delay of . minute
or two before the train started. a n oov-
cred most Of the work OF my Department.
Among other matters We talked over the
appointment OF a Federal Judge for Florida
to III the place left vacant by the death Of
Judge Swane. but We cams 10 NO decision"
Asked il the Southern Railway case a
figured in the talk. Mr.. Bonaparte said that
thad been touched upon, and then added:
That case. like tho Standard Oil matter.
seems 20 have settled itself and there is
nothing left to discuss. There will DO
nothing further for US to do unless the case
lstaken TO the Federal court, and II the rail-
roads have no stomach for the fight w