Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1907-02-18

room saying: Good day. doctor. 1 am very
sorry
II told him the papers hadn't anything
! to do with my examination, but he went
! out of the room and that ended the visit
las a result of that visit did you draw
any scientific deductions from Mr.. Thaw's
| action?'
Explosive Mental Makeup.
Yes. He Displayed highly explosive
| mental makeup in that without adequate
! cause he dismissed his counsel and physl-
| clans after he had agreed in advance that
| we should come here for the purpose indi-
Gated. He displayed defective reason IN
putting aside professional men whom ne
had been assured were there through no
| unfriendliness.'
| did he mention to you the names OF
ar of the young women who he said
had suffered wrongs at the sands of Stan
ford White?" asked Mr.. Delmas.
Before the witness could answer MI.
| Delmas withdrew the question and asked
DR.. Evans if he had read the codicll 10
Harry Thaw's will. The witness said he
| had read it In part and had heard all OF 1t
read
| Did he mention to you the names thal
appear in the codicil?'
| District Attorney Jerome objected to the
| question in this form and it was with
drawn.
Did Mr.. Thaw say to you that he was
| not insane?'
Said He Wasn't Crazy.
Yes, sir. He said, L am not insane
is it a common thing for persons suffer
ing from unsound mind to protest that they
| are not insane?'
1T is very common-about 9o per cent Of
| them do it,
DR.. Evans said .Thaw declared that per-
haps 200 or 300 persons might be found who
would say he was insane, but he did not
think they could prove it.
Relating Thaw's act of self-importance,
! DR.. Evans said: He wanted me to under
stand that he was Harry Kendall Thaw of
| Pittsburg; that he was the one and only
Harry Kendall Thaw, and there were no
| Others"
What conclusion did you reach as to
| Thaw's declaration that his act had been
| an act of Providence?"
| THAT it was an insane delusion.'
"Are not repentance, remorse and fear OF
| punishment the normal conditions of a
| sane man after he has committed an act
| Of homicide and the absence of these ele-
| ments an evidence of unsoundness of
| mind?'
| characteristics of Insanity.
"As a rule remorse and repentance are
| found in the sane mind, and, in my opinion,
the absence of these feelings is an indica-
ton of mental unsoundness."
| This ended the direct examination of DIT.
Evans. who was withdrawn to enable the
defense to recall DR.. Charles G. Wagner,
| superintendent of the State Hospital for
| the Insane at Binghamton, N. Y. DR.. Wag-
| ner accompanied DR.. Evans in most Of his
| visits to Thaw in the Tombs, and testified
briefly last week. giving it as his opinion,
| in response to a hypothetical question, that
| Thaw was insane at the time he shot and
| killed Stanford White.
| Dr. Wagner had not been allowed when
on the stand previously to relate his CONVEX
sations with Thaw. Under the rule that con-
versations at the time person is of I'M
sound mine are admissible, DR.. wagner was
recalled to tell of these conversations.
LAS a result of your visits to Mr.. Thaw
on August q and September 10 last, did you
reach a conclusion as to the mental condl-
ton of the DEFENDANT" asked Mr.. Delmas.
Yes" replied DR.. Wagner; "in my opin-
ion he was at that time insane. When / WIS.,
tied him on August 81 he told me that Drs.
Austin Flint Carlos Macdonald and VIM.
Mabon had visited him and had asked per-
mission to examine him, but he had refused
to allow them to do So"
Would Not Ee Examined.
The three physicians mentioned are the
alienists employed by the state in this case
Mr. Thaw said DIR. Dana also had called
but he had refused to let him conduct an
examination, although he sent by his
| own attorneys. He said the lawyers anG
doctors We're in collision with the district
| attorneys office to run him into an asylum
and prevent his case coming to trial. ThaW
always referred to Stanford White by al
epithet such as the beast or the black
guard or the dead man. and never by his
right name
Dr. Wagner then repeated practically the
same story of the interview as was related
by DR.. Evans. He said that Thaw referred
to Stanford Whites "Dens of vice. and sait
the beast had three ways of running
young girls-seduction, drugs and physica
violence
Not Premeditated.
Dr. Wagner said he asked Thaw why h,
had killed Stanford White.
He said" continued the witness, "tha
he had no thought of killing White tina
night on the roof garden; that he hat
striven only to get evidence against tn,
man so as to send him to the penitentiary.
DIR. Wagner repeated DR.. Evans state
ments as to his visit of September 49, whel
| Thaw dismissed his attorneys and physi
| clans.
Did Thaw protest that he was sane?'
| asked Mr.. Delmas.
He did,
And that is common declaration o.
insane persons?'
1T is a common experience with the in
sane. yes, SIR
Did Thaw ascribe to himself any par
ticular function in dealing with the sub
| ject that was on his mind?
Thaw and Morality.
Yes. He said it was his province to looi
after the welfare of young girls and Lead
them along moral lines
Did he mention the names of any young
women
Yes, SIR
The witness was not asked to give thes'
names.
DIR. Wagner repeated DIR. Evans conclu
| sion that Thaw's idea that he was acting
as an agent of Providence in killing Stan