The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1907-06-08
Harry Orchard Testifies in
Cross Examination
That He Worked for Detectives
and Miners at Same Time.
HE POINTS OUT A MAN
Who He Says Helped Him to
Make Bomb.
Indications of Line of Defense
Begin to Appear.

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the stand at the afternoon session OF
court in the trial of w. d. Haywood,
Harry Orchard said that prior to his
marriage in Colorado he lived at
Johnny Neville's house at Cripple
Creek. He admitted taking some high
grade ore from roommate's trunk
and selling it for $40. The roommate.
John Thompson, had "high graded"
the ore.
After first reporting to D. c. Scott a
detective oe the Florence & Cripple
Creek railroad, about the attempt to
wreck a train, Orchard said he had
seen the officer several times. He de-
MED that he was reporting to the de-
tective. Orchard also said he had
been to see D. c. Sterling, who had
charge of the detective force of the
Mine Owners association.
Didn't you tell Scott and Sterling
that you were going to the headquar-
tiers to get something against the
leaders of the Western Federation of
Miners?" asked Richardson.
81 told Scott 1 was going to try to
find out something about Easterly."
who paid your expenses to Den
ver7"
'Scott."
who paid your expenses in Den
ver?"
Il got some money from Meyer"
Didn't you tell Scott you were go
ing to find out something about Hay
wood and Moyer?"
Yes. 1 told him that
Lawyers Clash.
Orchard said he was not employed
by Scott, and went to Denver only
once-in December, 1903. He said he
had tried to conceal the fact that he
had been to see Scott and Sterling, but
told Parker and Davis, of the union,
about it when they got out of JAIL
- he
given any information concerning
Meyer or Haywood, and said he was
lying to Scott when he promised to get
information for him.
Attorney Richardson again began to
interrupt the replies of the witness to
some of his questions, and this
brought out a protest from the prose-
cution.
you must not lift the lid without
expecting what is beneath to come
out" tainted Senator BOrah for the
''When lift the lid I want 1t to
come out" replied Richardson.
Then after a moment he added:
81 know that this lid has been fixed
up for us, and what's beneath 1t is
also fixed up"
Hawley was on his feet in a jiffy.
eff you make a statement like that"
he shouted to Richardson, you make
a statement that is absolutely false"
proceed, gentlemen" called out
Judge Wood.
Richardson did not reply to Mr..
but again took up the cross
examination. Orchard said that when
he went to Denver in 1903 on money
supplied by Detective Scott 1t was the
first time he had met Haywood and
Meyer. He had not heard of Petit |
bone up to this time Haywood and |
Meyer told him, when he introduced |
himself, that they had heard of him.
Something Omitted.
Richardson read an extract from |
Orchards testimony of the previous |
day. The witness interrupted him i
once to say he had omitted something. |
Inserted one or two words which he |
said the stenographer had left out.
These words were under the lid |
yesterday, 1 suppose" the attorney |
snarled at the witness.
II don't know anything ABOUT
i'd" replied Orchard, unperturbed.
Orchard said he had never told De-
ectives Scott and Sterling anything
about the explosion in the Vindicator
nine Richardson questioned the wit
less closely as to the shaft he used in
entering the Vindicator mine. He
aid he thought he went down No. IL
o place the bomb.
did you say the Whiting shaft
mo, sir.
HAS some one told you since yes
erday that there is a bulkhead which
prevents entrance to the mine by the
Whiting shaft?"
mo, sir.
.'Have you seen Detective McPar-
and since yesterday?
YES
"Ah, ha,' called the attorney. How
ong were you with him ?''
ct saw him for five or ten minutes
n Mr.. Hawley's Office today at noon"
Bomb Maker Identified.
Orchard said that when he returned
o Cripple Creek from Denver he re-
,orted to Detectives Scott and Sterling
tut did not tell them about his inter-
his interview Meyer and Haywood
lad told him, Orchard said, to get
usy at Cripple Creek and do what
yer he could-that he could not go
nd Haywood said he could get more
Fhene ever he wanted it.
$50 you never We're broke after
hat?" suggested Richardson.
ct was broke several times. but I
ot money every time 1 asked for it."
Orchard was next told to describe
he making of the two bombs in Grip
lie Creek which were to be thrown in
D the Vindicator coal bins. The wit
ess said he stole the powder from a
1an named Charley Perkins. He and .
,wney Barnes made the bombs in !
Sarnes' cabin.
Then for a second time during the
ay. Orchard was confronted with a !
witness for the defense.
sarnes was in the audience and was
Did to stand up. !
Orchard looked at him and once !
1ore without hesitation said:
That's the man with whom I made
he bombs"
Barnes. a short heavy set man with
arge mustache, grinned and sat down
richard said no one told him to make
hese particular bonn bs-he did IL in