The morning journal-courier., 1907-12-21


 Smyth of the Center church, arose and condemned the petty charges. He said that there were some things in congre- gationalism in New Haven which should be buried so deep that for them there would be no resurrection. Going on Mir. Crapp stated that MT. Mckay had told the story about that he, MT. Crapp, had been fired from Winchester's because of Mir. McKay's work and that MT. Mckay claimed he had done this because MT. Crapp was circulating a paper about the parish which was meant to put the church in a bad way. MT Crapp said that he wrote to Pennsylvania on the advice of Rev. pr. McLane, then secretary of the Congregational council and found out about MT. McKay's past rec ord
 Mir Crapp stated that he had with drawn from the church while MT Me Kay was pastor and that MT. Mckay got the church council not to give him ctter which would admit him to membership in another church He had, however, gone to the Summerfield field church and been admitted on pro- fession of faith.
 Daniel Visel testified as to how the Ladies Aid society had rallied off a piano to raise money to pay Mir Me Kay, and said that he did not know whether or not MT. Mckay had taken any active part in the work himself. Mir Mckay, however, had told him in sort of a boasting way that he gen. erally got what he wanted and that he had put one man under the turf. Even after this remark MT. Visel had remained faithful to his pastor.
 Mir visel stated that MT. Harris sub stituted for MT. Mckay once when MT, Mckay went south To support the charge of untruthfulness brought against Mir. Mckay, MT. Visel stated that while Mir Mckay told him that he had paid MT Harris for this work, MT. Harris told him that MT. Mckay had never even offered to pay him for the work nor had thanked him for preaching the Sundays he was away. Mfr. Vjsel said that he was the heav- iost given to the church and that for this Teascn Mr. Mckay had always been very friendly. Mir Visel de- scribed the prayer meeting in Novem- Der when the demand had been made for MT. McKay's papers.
 H. s. Hamilton the clerk of the parish, state that the reason Mir. Mckay had opposed giving MT. Crapp his letters to another church was that Mir Crapp had not paid his dues. To support the charge of untruthfulness brought against MT. Mckay, MT Hamilton said that the former pastor had not told the truth about note given local bank for payment for the church or gan. Mir. Mckay had said that he and two others had signed the note, and that on investigation it was found that Mir. Mckay was not one of the three sisners.
 Asked why the petition for the spe- cial meeting of the church to give MT. Mckay the papers he desired was not granted when there were S7 signers to I it in place of the usual 10, MT. Ham, ilton said that the petition was not presented In the right spirit.
 Mrs. Hyde, the former president of the Ladies Aid society, spoke next. She said that she had found Mr. Me- Kay untruthful and so had resigned her position. One thing about which he was untruthful was smoking. He had bought cigars and told her son +1,o+ 1,a ,I,,,,oho cad thar, +o esixya +o +he other New Haven Congregational min- isters when they called to see him. and the next day her son had seen him smoking pipe. She said that Mr. Me- Kay helped sell tickets for the famous raf1ie. The next thing he did was to come to her house to get money to pay the coal bill It was on this visit to the house, after he had mentioned in a gossipy way several members of his congregation that she had charged him with lying. Then she asked for a letter from the church and was re- fused. She paid up her dues and left. going to the Summerfield church.
 Mrs, Visel was the next witness. She prefaced her remarks by saying that the rresent packers of Mr. Mckay had noe been regular attendants at the church in most cases. They had come there principally when there had been vaudeville performances going on. She had for long time liked Mr Mckay and thought that he was coarse be- cause he came from Pennsylvania.
 This frank expression of opinion ir regard to Pennsylvania relieved tn, strain under which all had been fol the past two hours Several of tn, pastors who had at some time in theil lives lived in Pennsylvania looked ex. tremely pleased.
 After Mrs. Visel had ceased speak. , ing Mrs. Waite commenced. She start ed off with her charge that MT. Nc, Kay had said MT. Luckey used other peoples sermons. In addition to the one MT, Mckay had shown her. sht , said MT. Mckay had told her he coule show her others MT. Luckey had used Following this line of testimony George Davis said that MT, Mckay had told him that Rev. Dr. Newman .Smyth admitted using abstracts oi other peoples sermons in making ur his own, This created another sur prise, and the names of Deacon Brad ley, Mrs. Waite, Mrs. Hyde, MT, Davis and several others were taken in re- gard to the plagiarism charges.
 MT. Davis said that MT Mckay hat told him an untruth when he said tha the church was free from debt r 3 had told him that Newman Smyth haC said he would raise money to pay foI the organ just purchased and or which notes had been taken out. Thi, was never done,