Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1907-04-02
Evidence Before the Lunacy
Commission Somewhat Con-
flicting
OFFICERS SAY, THAw is SANE
Dr. Hamilton, Permitted to Testify, Ds,
elares Prisoner is Mentally lrrs-
sponsibh for His Aets-Jsrcms
Makes Poor Progress in Showing
Thaw is insane.

New York, April 2.-District ATT
torney Jerome had a large array Of
witnesses awaiting the pleasure Of the
Thaw lunacy commission today. among
them Mrs Evelyn Nesbit Thaw. Dr..
Charles F. Bingham, the tThaw family
physician from Pittsburg, was present
today. Other witnesses included Fred
erick w. Longfellow, an attorney for
merly employed by Thaw; DR.. Allan
McLane Hamilton, DR.. Austin Flint.
and most of the other alienists who
appeared for Thaw or the state at the
trial.
DR.. Frank A. Mcguire, the Tombs
physician, was the first witness called
before the commission. He said he had
seen Thaw two or three times each
week since June % last, and every day
Of the trial. In answer to questions
by Chairman Mcclure witness said
he had talked with Thaw every day
since the trial began, and that at no
time had Ire seen Thaw do or say any
thing irrational. His talk twas very
sensible.
MCGUIRE was asked about the book
in which he kept the record OF the
prisoner, and which Jerome produced
before the commission Saturday. He
said the book contained mostly hear
say matter, but few original entries
by himself Mcclure said on cross
examination that he, had never made
a special examination of Thaw to de-
termine his sanity and had been re-
fused permission to be present at
Thaw's examination by alienists for
defense June 2Sth last. He had not
talked with Thaw regarding his trial or
mental condition. Their conversations
were confined to current topics.
Guards Say He is Sane.
Michaed J. Delehanty, the first prison
guard who attended Thaw, said Thaw
always talked in an Understandable
way and appeared rational turnout the
time he had him in custody. On cross
examination Delehanty said he had not
talked to Thaw about Stanford White
or about the house in West Twenty
fourth street.
Franklin j. Sheridan, another OF
Thaw's guards, said he had never seen
Thaw do anything irrational. Did You
eevr hear him say anything about st
George rescuing virgins from red
dragons?'' asked jerome.
NO, sir"
Mrs. Emily S. Walker, probationai'
officer for the court of special sessions
and q constant visitor to the Tombs,
said she had talked with Thaw many
rn
| talk and manner of speech were ra-
| tional.
Preacher Favors Thaw.
| Rev. John Tade. an Episcopalian
chaplain, said. he often discussed vari-s
Gus matters with Thaw. Have you
ever noticed anything in his conduct
| or speech which suggested irrationa1i-
! ty?" asked Mcclure.
'Not since the trial
But before %
II can't say that there was ever
anything more than highly excite
or overwrougnt condition"
Witness never noticed anything N
Thaw's facial expression which sue
! gested irrationality. Thaw's CONVEX
sations were rational, and sometimes
he seemed unusually keen. Jerome
asked WaQe IL tuc ITet COANSISdlsOu.
/ he had with Thaw after his arrest
was rational or irrational. Thaw. who
sat inside the inner rail with counsel,
tugged at Hartridge's coat sleeve and
said in an audible whispera, object to
that" Hartridge did so, but the
question was allowed.
"His conversation at that time, said
the chaplain, was irrational"
Rev. Luke ]. Evers, who conducts
Roman Catholic services In the Tombs,
declared he had discussed many top
les with Thaw. including religion, and
always found him rational Jerome
mere asked DR.. Allen McLane Hamil-
ton to take the stand.
Hamilton declared it to be his be-
lief that Thaw Is suffering from p o.
gressive form Of paranoia or delusional
insanity, and declared It his opinion
that the defendant Is not capable OF
realizing the nature Of the charges
against him.
FINAL DEBATE At IOWA CITY.