The Washington times., 1907-03-04
Thaw sCoolness Proof of Insanity
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perlntendent Of the State Insane Asylum,
at Norris Plains.
When he returned to the chair, Jerome
asked:
Q.-Doctor. would the GOODNESS and de-
liberation after the shooting be an inn
portant factor in arriving at the con-
illusions on which you base your opinion
that ne was of unsOund mind?
Ayes.
would you take that into considera-
ton?
Ayes. I would.
Q.-Would it tend to show he was OF
unsound mind?
A.-WeII. not taken by itself. but in
connection with all the other facts, l
believe he was OF unsOund mind.
Q.-The fact that he was walking
slOwly-would that enter INTO II?
A.-The fact that he walked deliber-
ately and that he made no effort to
escape. would show that ne did not be
lieve he had done anything that was
wrong-that ne did not believe that he
had done anything that would cause him
TO shrink from the eyes OF his fellow
man or the officers Of the law.
Felt Satisfaction Over Deed.
o.-Then the acts would tend to indi-
cate as he walked toward his wife that
he considered that he felt satisfaction
over the deed. as ii he had done some
thing that was proper. What was the
mental state OF this man when he
walked toward his wife after the shoot
ing?
A.-Hc showed no agitation. accord
Ing TO the evidence. as If he felt he had
done nothing wrong. The fact that he
walked toward his wife does not show
cOuclusively that he did it by design,
but / would infer that when he walked
toward her he knew where he was go
ing.
DO you draw the conclusion that
he knew he was walking toward his
wife alone?
Al cannot tell that
Q.-When the fireman who took away
the pistol asked the defendant Why did
you shoot Mr. Winter and he answered
He ruined MY wife does that throw
any light on the mental condition OF the
defendant az the timer
A.-Yes. It shows that the one
thought that weighed down upon him
for so long. that White had ruined his
wife, was still with him at this time.
Showed Thought UPpeImost.
Q.-what mental process was going
on IN Thaw's mind ut the time he said
70 his wife when she exclaimed, oh,
Harry, Why did YOU do it?' and he re
piled. Well. dearie. 1 have saved your
litc-'
At showed that that thought which
was uppcrmost in his mind was still
present with him.
A.-Are you prepared 20 say that his
reply to the fireman was not merely an
excuse for his Crimey
Al was not present and ] would not
go so Gar as TO say Just what the de-
PENDANT was thinking about.
Jerome Is Persistent.
GA man named Paxton was there
that night. and when Bruidt the fire
man, had taken the pistol from Thaw
and turned it over 20 him PaXton)
Thaw said: I've got To 90 down the
elevator, anyhow; can't you take me
now? l don't want 20 annoy these
people" What mental process was go
ing on at that timeE
Al cannot go 50 Tar as 70 say II y
impossible 10 determine positively WLlaL
ANNOYANCE Thaw wanted to prevent he
might have believed he was causing an
annoyance by Obstructing the aisle IN
which he was standing
Q.-Had he intelligence enough 10 de
termine what annoyance he was AdDle
to subject the people to-
Al can't determine that.
Odd he know he was under arrest
Ale knew he was to be taken Dy
the man who had him in charge
Odd he know he was IN custody
O.-Do YOU think nc had intelligence
to know he was annoying people?
Ale may have had an insane per
ception that he was.
O.-Do insane people not in n manlacal
state usually know what they arc do
ing?
A.-They 90. But when under inc
great strain-thc agitation-thcy may
have no idea OF those who are around
them The chances are that for the time
befnp thev arc almost entirely uncOn-
scious of the immediate surroundings