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The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
STAKES
WON BY D|NNA KEN
Whitney Gelding Created New
Track Record for Five
Furlongs.
BEAT FAv0RITE, PETER PAN
Clipped Three-Fifths OF Second
Off Record Made by the
Great Commando.

NEW YORK, May 25-H. p. Whit
ney's Dinna Ken, carrying iii pounds.
and ridden by Kcerner won the Carle-
ton Stakes one mile, at Gravesend to-
day, defeating James r. keene's heav-
ily-played favorite, Peter Pan, in a
drive, with Sidney Paget's Charles Ed
ward third. Dinna Ken was at IL to
l in the betting. The Whitney gelding
created q new track record for the
distance by stepping 1t in 1898 As,
which is three fifths of second faster
than the best previous time, made by
James r. Keene's Commando. carrying
126 pounds, June /. 1901. Peter Pan
was made a hot odds-on favorite at
3 to 8, and he was heavily played
Prince Hamburg clipped fifth of a
second off the track record for about
six furlongs, when he won the first
race in 1:0S 20.
First race-about six furlongs-
Prince Hamburg 60 to 81 first, Halifax
Is to 81 second, Voorhees, Go to IL
third. Time, 1:OS 2-5.
Second race-The Empire State
Steeplechase; about two and a halt
miies-El Cuchillo Is to y first. Good
and Plenty C to ~ second, Grandpa
6 to y third. Time, 4:46.
Third race-The Hudson Stakes; five
furlongs-Royal Nane (S to - first
Transvaal q to % second, Alauda (S
to ~ third. Time, 100 3-5
Fourth rnce-Carleton Stakes; mile
Dinna Ken (12 to y first, Peter Pan
CO to 81 second. Charles Edward 6 to
IL third. Time. 1888 As.
Fifth race-mile and furlong-
Sailor Boy a to ~ first, Yankee Girl
&c to % second, Ampedo &C to y third.
Time. 1862 is.
Sixth race-selling; about six fur
longs-Robin Hood &c to 81 first Miss
Strome GEO to y second, Golden West
co to y third Time, 1:01.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
w. AND L. BEATS v. r. i.
Techs Lost Tennis Doubles in Three
Straight Sets to LeAinS tOniuns.
Especial to The ,Times-I

Especial to The Times-D i1patch.l
LEXINGTON. VA. May 25.-Wash-
ingtong and Lee defeated V. 81. In
tennis doubles yesterday In three
Straight sets by the scores OF
6-1, 6-1. 6l.
f. w. Harris and Fl. f. Day repre-
sented the Techs, and put up a good
game. but D. w. Pipes and j. w. Egg
gleston. for the varsity. were in fine
form and won by good margins. Rain
prevented singles being played to-
ln,,
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
SOUTH ATLANTIC LEAGUE
Jacksonville, 8, Savannah. o.

Jacksonville, 3, Savannah. Q.
JACK SONVILLE, May 25.-Neur was
in poor form to-day. He hit five men
and allowed two bases on balls. Sitton
did not allow any two hits in the game
Score by innings: r. H. Z
Jacksonville..2 0 o 0 o IS 3 q
Savannah 30 0 o. % 5 4
Batteries: Sitton and Roth; Neur and
Kahlkoff. Time. 1:24. Umpire. Fitz-
simmons.
Macon. 2, Charleston. O,
CHARLESTON, S. c., May 25.-In-
ability to hit Harley at opportune
times was the cause OF Charleston's
defeat to-day.
Score by innings: r. H. f,
Charleston 20 o o 5000 90 /
Macon ....0 0 0 l 0 0 . . IL + :
Batteries: Foster and Evers; Harley
and Robinson. Time, 1885. Umpire
Davis.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
PUBLIC SCHOOL LEAGUE.
Randolph Defeats Springfield in One
Sided Contest-CIMb Standings.

Randolph played postponed game
with Springfield. and won out II to 0.
On Monday Leigh and Randolph meet
at Byrd Park; Tuesday Marshall and
Central play on =. Christ Church
grounds; Wednesday Madison and
Springfield will play at Byrd Park
Madison and Randolph have Il post
poned game to play.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
INTERNATIONAL
MEET CALLED OFF

LONDON. May 25.-It was definitely
ascertained to-day that the projected
track and field meet between Harvard
off for the present year. oxford and
Cambridge having definitely decided
that they are unable to send q team
to America
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26

second. Dew of Dawn Is to y third.
Time. :01 1-5.
\ Sixth ACCOMPLISHMENTS of Ivanhoe
Is to - first. Roger S. G50 to ~ sec
ond. Carew Is to - third. Time,
1:44 LIS.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
TIMELY HITS WIN
FOR PITTSBURG
Chicago Cubs Defeat Cincinnati
and Retain the Lead-Boston
Americans Lose tc Browns.
sox Beat Highlandcrs.
The Athletics
Lose.
NATIONAL LEAGUE.
Yesterdays Ke.ultr.

New York. o; Boston. l.
Philadelphia. 6: Brooklyn. 8. Second
game. Philadelphia. Z; Brooklyn, 4.
Cincinnati. 0; Chicago. 5.
Pittsburg, 6; ST. Louis, 3.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
AMERICAN LEAGUE
Yesterdays Results

Detroit Washington postponed (rain)
Cleveland. 5: Philadelphia, 2.
Chicago. 3; New York, /.
st. Louis. S; Boston, 1.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
OTHER GAMES

At New Haven: Yale, IA; University
of Pennsylvania, /.
At princeton: Princeton, S. Har-
ward. 3.
At Macon: University OF Georgia, 12;
Mercer, J,
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
ToDuy's Gnnes

New York at Chicago.
Boston at ST. Louis.
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
some Good Necord..

Some GOOD NcCOrIs.
Week before last thero were some note-
worthy spurts in batting, figures for
the week showing that soma heavy
hitters have fallen back and that 9th
ers far down in tho list are getting
their eyes on the ball and swatting II
for keeps. Titman hit for 800 last,
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
BATTING AVERAGES
FOR FIRST MONTH
VIRGINIA LEAGUE.

Yesterdays Results
Fichmond-Danvi (rain).
Ly lchburg- Portsmouth (rain).
Norfolk Roanoke (rain).
The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-05-26
To-Dny's Games.
Chicago at Cincinnati.
Pittsburg at st. Louis.
Club Standings.
Phfllien Get nu.y.

PHILADELPHIA, May 25.-Philadel-
phia took both games of double
header from Brooklyn to-day.
First game:
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
No Vacation For Advertising.

II is a pretty well established fact
in all lines of business that 1t pays
the employer in the long u to give
his employees an annual vacation.
Only n servant fails to work the
better throughout the year for a week
or two of rest In the summertime.
That servant is Advertising Advertis-
ing has no understudy. No n can
falnl his functions. When he quits
everything lags. He must be kept at
1t from the first OF January to the
thirty-irst OF December. The merchant
who gives advertising a vacation in
August loses his most efficient helper
at the very time when his services are
most urgently needed to dispel the
dog-day dullness.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
A SAVING OF sl.l0
TO THOSE SUBSCRIBING FOR THE
WORLD AUG. 1851.
An Excellent Opportunity for the
Prudent Individual to Save
Money.
Money.

The fourth annual bargain week
August &c to 81, inclusive, viii again
mark an opportunity in the lives of
those who are inclined to save. When
The Evening World is offered for a
year at the rate Of $3.50, there is at
once a saving Of sf.10. This saving,
coupled with the time, worry and
trouble Of paying the monthly collec-
tor, makes the offer all the more val
uab,e and profitable to the prudent in
diyidual.
During the above named week new
subscribers and old ones fully paid up,
will be allowed the benefit of this spec
ial reduction. The rule that no sub
scription will be received before or
after the designated days will be
strictly adhered to, as will the neces-
sity of being fully paid up if an old
subscriber.
Remember the fourth annual bar
gain week will be from August 26 to
81, inclusive, and that the price for a
years subscription to The Evening
World during that week viii be $3.50.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17

Free, for Catarrh, just to prove
merit, a trial size box of DR.. Shops
Catarrh Remedy. Let me send it
now. It's a snow-white creamy, anti
septic balm. Containing such heal
ing ingredients as Oil Eucalyptus, Thy
mol, Menthol, etc., it gives instant
and lasting relief to Catarrh of the
lose and throat. Make the free test
and see for yourself what this prep
aration can and will accomplish. Al
dress DR.. Shoop, Racine, Wis. Large
Jars so cents. Sold by all dealers.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Changers Picnic.

For the Changers Picnic at Williams
Grove, August 26 to 81, 1907, the Cum
berland Valley railroad Wei rum con-
nections for regular trains to and
from the Grove. The Thursday special
will leave Martinsburg at 6 a. M. Re
turning leave Grove at 500 p, m.
Excursion tickets good to return
until Saturday, August 81, will be on
sale from Monday until Friday at re
duced rates,
Excursion tickets good for two days
will be on sale from Tuesday until
Friday at rate of sl,25 for the round
trip S-15-td
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Nh. HENRY TRosTLE DEAD.
Prominent jefferson County Citizen
Passes Away at shepherdstown.

Mr.. Henry Trostle, a retired farmer
and prominent citizen Of Shepherds
town, and well known in this county,
died Tuesday eyeing of heart failure,
aged 6S years. He was born and rear
ed in Cumberland county, Pa, and re-
moved to Berkeley county in 1865,
where he resided for a number Of
years. He was a member of the Pres
byterian church and was one of the
most upright and highly respected men
in the community.
Mr.. Trostle is survived by his wife
and two sons: Benjamin, at McKees-
port, and Rev. John Trostle, a Presby-
terrain clergyman at Lexington, Va.
The funeral vas held this forenoon in.
Sheppherdstown, where the interment
also took place.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17

Mrs. H. Mcdowell, North Queen
street, has in her possession several
Welsh books that are quite a curios-
ity. Among them is a Welsh Bible
printed in the year 1914, bound in
leather, studded with heavy brass but
printed in the year 1860, curiously
bound in sheep skin. Mrs. Mcdowell
prizes these books very highly, they
having been brought to this country
by her mother, Mrs. Jane McKiastry,
in the year 1928.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Auto Scared Her Horse.

A lady in the county, but whose
name could not be learned, came here
last evening on the hunt of Lawrence
r. Lee, of Shepherdstown, whose auto
mobile, she alleges, frightened her
horse and resulted in her buggy being
broken to smi hereens. The accident
occurred on the road between this city
and Shepherdstown.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
New Barber Shop.

Messrs. A. r. Melintz and b. G..
Williams have entered into a partner
ship to conduct a neat and up to date
barber shop on South Queen street, in
the old Everett House.
Both have a large circle of friends
who will give them their patronage.
The name of the new shop will be
the Central Barber shop.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17

I'll stop your pain free. To show
you frst-before you spend a penny
what my Pink Pain Tablets can do, |
will mail you free, a Trial Package
of them-Dr. Shops Headache Tab
let's. Neuralgia. Headache, Tooth
ache, Period pains, etc., are due alone
10 blood congestion. DR.. Shops
Headache Tablets simply kill pain by
coaxing away the unnatural blood
pressure. That Is all. Address DR..
Shoop, Racine, Wis. Sold by all deal
ers.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
ONE GETS FORTY DAYS.
The Four Negroes Taken Of 3. G. o.
Train, Sent to Jail.

Walter Schearing, John Jackson,
Lester Painter and George Drawing,
the four negroes taken off b. & o.
train No. 9 Tuesday night, were given
a hearing before Justice Felker last
night. Jackson, Painter and Drawing
were each given 10 days in jail, and
Schearing who is suspected of killing
a man in Montgomery county, Md,
was given 40 days in Jail for carrying
concealed weapons.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
councilmen Attend Festival.
MRS. ROBERT JONES BURIED.
Woman Who Committed Suicide Here
Wednesday Today.

The remains of Mrs. Robert Jones,
who killed herself with a pistol shot
Wednesday morning at the home of
her sister, Mrs. George White, East
Race street, were taken this afternoon
to Payne's chapel, lee Bunker Hill,
by Undertaken w. H. Wilen. q
After a funeral service in the chapel
the body was buried in the adjoining
graveyard.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
WEDDING RECALLS TRAGEDY.
Widow Hess, Once Nearly Murdered
BY First Husband, WEEDS Again.

Mr.. Clarence Barthelow, this county,
and Mrs. Clara Hess, west Of town,
were married Wednesday evening at
$50 o'clock by Rev. John S. Douglas,
rector of the Episcopal church. The
wedding took place at the rector's
residence, on West King street,
This wedding recalls a tragedy that
occurred over a year ago. 1t will be
remembered that one day the present
brides first husband. Peter Hess, a
well known character on the streets,
in a fit of rage, shot his wife three
times, then turning the pistol on him
self. blew out his brains. The scene
of the tragedy was in a room in the
rear of Justice Felker's Office and
caused much excitement here at the
time. The m was very danger
ously wounded, but after several
weeks treatment in the hospital re-
covered and now is married again.
The bride is the daughter of Mr.. AL
fred Mason, al the south edge of the
city.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Real Estate Transfers.

II. H. Wolford sold to Col. James NJ.
Guffey, a tract Of land. containing so
acres on the Three-Hill Mountain in
G~errardstown district; consideration
$500.
Mr.. Robert S. Newbraugh yesterday
sold two building lots at Inwood to
Mr.. David w. Hutzler, the price paid
being $500.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Wedding Announcement.

The wedding of Miss Sallie Faux
ner, youngest daughter Of Hon. Chas.
J.. Faulkner, to Mr.. Stephen R. Snod-
grass, all of Martinsburg, is announced
for October %, next. The prominence
of both families in social circles lends
special interest to the announcement.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Administrators Notice.

Having qualified as administrator of
Mrs. Elizabeth A. Edwards, deceased,
all persons indebted 10 said estate are
hereby notified to come forward and
settle same, and all persons having
claims against said estate are hereby
notified to present same duly authen.
ticated to the undersigned for settle
ment,
7-14-4t-oaw w. G. EDWARDS.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Pop Company Fails.

Wednesday a receiver was appoint
ed for the Pope Manufacturing Co, Of
Hartford, Conn, with a branch factory
at Hagerstown. This company is one
of the largest manufacturers of auto
mobiles in the country and was CAPT
itaIized at $4,000, 900.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
i sentiment for better buildings and
identified grounds.

4 sentiment for better buildings and
beautided grounds
Prof. Roster following the address
Of Prof. Kimler spoke of the negll-
gence Of some boards Of education IN
caring for the building under their
charge. He suggested that n or
two janitors be retained through the
summer to look after the building and
grounds.
Among the visitors today were q
number OF school officers. The entire
board from Gerrardstown district and
members from two other districts were
present, also Mr.. A. J. Wilkinson, OF
Grafton, agent Of he American Book
Co.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Infant Dead.

Albert Bruce, the six-weeks' old son
of Mr.. and Mrs. Moses Cave, q Add
ton street, died last night. The body
will be taken to Winchester tomorrow
morning and buried in the Methodist
graveyard.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Child Dead.

The t~wo-year-old son of Mr.. Benja-
min Couchman, four miles north of
this city, died Friday at 8 p. MOI
cholera infantum. Funeral Sunday at
8 p. M, at the house, conducted by
Rev. C. S. Trump. Interment in Green
Hill cemetery, this city.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
Four Generations Meet.

Mrs. John d. Winter and daughter,
of Leland, Miss, and Miss Sophia
Powers. of Berryville, are visiting DR..
H. S. Castleman and Mrs, Sallie Jol-
life, West King street, four genera,
tons being thus together.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
EXECUTORS SALE
vALuABI E PERSONAL PROPERTY.

BY virtue of the authority vested i'll
me as executor of the last will and
testament of Joha KEGS. deceased, |
will offer at public sale at his late
residence, 3 miles southwest of Jones
Spring, and 2 miles northwest of
Shanghai, on
THURSDAY, AUGUST %, 1907
commencing at 10 o'clock a. M. the
following described personal property,
to-wit:
TWO GOOD BROOD MARES
will work anywhere hitched.
FIVE HEAD OF CATTLE
Two of which are good milk cows, one
with calf by her side, and two fine
heifers.
FOUR HEAD OF HOGS
One fine brood SOW, 3 shoats weighing
about $50 pounds each.
FARMING UTENSILS
One two-horse wagon and ladders;
one spring wagon; m wheat
drill, good as new; one rake; one
wheat fan, Doll make; two barshear
plows; four shovel plows; two har-
rows; four sets plow gears; four
brides; four collars; one set front
gears. one leather halter, one riding
saddle; two sets breechings; one
wheelbarrow; 20 grain sacks; 1900
feet inch boards; set cooper tools; lot
of forks and rakes; three grain
cradles; moving scythe; briar scythe;
set carpenter tools; six stands bees;
lot Of old iron; one grindstone; lot Of
empty barrels and kegs, and about 10
bushels buckwheat.
Household and Kitchen Furniture.
Six bedsteads and bedding; two
rocking chairs; lot of dining-room
chairs; one secretary desk; one sofa;
one rallingleaf walnut table; one s.
day clock; %onelooking glass; lot of
pictures; two bureaus; one tinplate
stove; one large iron kettle; one ice
cream freezer; lot Of crooks and glass
jars; lot of tinware, and quite a lot of
other useful articles kept on a well
conducted farm.
Terms of Sale.
A credit of nine months viii be Civ
en- on all sums of five dollars or over,
I the purchaser giving his note with APP
proved security, payable at the Citi-
zens' National bank, of harrisburg,
West Virginia, with interest from date,
but if paid at maturity the interest
will be remitted; and no property to
be removed unil the terms Of sale are
strictly complied with.
c. w. STUCKEY,
Executor of the Estate Of John KEGS,
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
STRIKE SPREADS RAPIDLY
viii Be Extended to Entire Com
merciaI Service.
lO6 GO OUT IN BALTIMORE
The Local Situation Not Seriously Az
fected-Transmission Subject to
All Kinds Of Delays.

The strike Of the t~eiegraphers
spread Wednesday to the stock yards
OF Chicago, when the keymen employ
I'd in the Offices Of Armour 6 Co. were
called out. The disastrous effect upon
operations of the Chicago Board Of
Trade caused that body to appeal to
President Roosevelt for aid In settling
the strike.
Warning has been sent from Chi
cago to the presidents of all boards
of trade, stock exchanges and CONNER
cial bodies throughout the country and
Canada that within twenty-four hours
the strike will be extended to every
branch of commercial service. The
support Of the international Typo
graphical Union, in convention at Hot
Springs, has been asked, while in New
York, Pittsburg and Washington the
messenger boys have gone out in SYM
pathy. The Western Union and Postal
of Baltimore have granted the messea-
ger boys an increase of 1 IL cents a
message as long as the strike lasts, in
order to keep them from yielding to
their 'sympathies." There are LOG men
out in Baltimore.
1t was denied emphatically yester-
day by well known members of the
Order of Railroad Photographers that
the railroad ~telegraphers had any in
~tention of, or even considered, a strike,
in sympathy with the commercial tele-
graphers. They would, however, refuse
to take any commercial messages
while the strike lasted.
The Local Situation.
Thus far the local situation is not
seriously affected. There Is some de-
lay in transmission due to messages
being held up at the relay Offices,
such as Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Bal
timore and other points where the
strike is on in all its fury.
Local operators are accepting bust
ness, though subject to any delay in
cident to outside conditions. Mean
time, where there is special urgency
and delays involve danger, local bust
ness people are making use of the
long distance telephone and special
delivery service of the p~ostofice de-
partment.
Local representatives of city news
papers have been instructed to use
the long distance phone in all matters
of urgent Importance. in case of
trouble in transmission by wire.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
GARBAGE CANS ON SRTEET.
Recepticles for Refuse Ordered
Placed Along Paved Street.
NEW PAYMENTS ORDERED
Councilman ziII and Mr.. snowden
Ordered to Replace New Pave
ments at Proper Grade.

The city council held a special meet
ing Thursday night in the council
chamber, Mayor Harrison presiding.
Councilmen Caskey, Stewart and Nc
Dowell were absent.
The appropriation Of $500 for the
grading Of Charles street was placed
in the hands Of the street committee
Garbage Cans for Queen Street.
The street committee was authoriz-
ed to purchase garbage cans to be
placed along the paved sections of
Queen street from the square to Mar
tin street. These cans will be procur-
ed at IN early date and placed al in
teryals along the street.
New Pavements.
Messrs. Frank =. Zill and ]. w.
Snowden were ordered to tear up the
%payements in front of their properties
On South Raleigh street, owing to the
fact that they were not laid accord
ing to the grade given by the city en-
gineer. The gentlemen were also or
dered to relay their pavements in ac-
cordance with the proper grade within
fifteen days from date of notice.
About a dozen people on South Raj
eigh and West King streets were or
dered to put down new concrete pave
ments in front of their properties.
1t was ordered that Mr.. Jacob Tay-
Tor and Mrs. Ella Nelson be notified to
remove the shade trees from the gut
ter in front of their properties on
North Queen street.
Councilmen Attend Festival.
The council then adjourned to the
baseball festival in the market house
upon the invitation of Councilman
Rentch, and were RECALLED with ice
cream and cake, with lemonade on the
side. +
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1907-08-17
rhurss Gay Morning Session.

Ssrdi. HiTB ct gave a very interesting
CAN OF aehvod architecture. He said
seaehers aaaf Che public at large are
too dnaiasfeur as to the appearance
and pamhsiou Of school houses and
greensS. He enjolns all to try to create