Los Angeles herald., 1907-01-16
SPOONER FLAYS
SENATOR T|LLMAN
South Carolinan Is Scored for Lawless
Encouragement of Lynching-Bit-
ter Words Fly Across the
Senate Chamber
BY Associated Press.

BY Associated Press.
WASHINGTON. Jan. 15.-The feat
ure of the days session was a constitu-
tional argument by Mr.. Spooner of
Wisconsin upholding the presidents
right to discharge the negro troops at
Brownsville. The remarks We're ques-
toned by Tillman and the two engaged
I'm q heated controversy. Mr.. Spooner
made y bitter attack on the South
Carolina senator.
Mr.. Tillman was not permitted to re-
ply at length, but at the conclusion of
Mr.. Spooners speech declared that at
an early date he would take occasion
to defend himself against the insult
ing allusions made to him."
II never heard until yesterday" said
Mr.. Spooner, that the president had
not the power of sending forces where
he chose; l never heard that that was
not a part of the power of the COM
mander in chief until this was pro-
claimed yesterday by the senator from
Georgia" (Mr. Bacon.).
The point was made by Mr.. Spooner
that the constitution does not say that
congress has the power to govern the
military forces, but to make rules for
the government of the army.
He claimed that the words "to make
rules" meant that the enforcement of
the regulations for the government of
9ul ulIM 6I9luIosqB palseI kmIB 9Ql
president as commander in chief. In
cases where congress has agreed to re-
appoint to the army and navy, Mr..
Spooner said that it merely gave to the
president authority in his discretion to
reappoint men or permit their re-en-
liStment.
Every man charged with crime is
entitled to his day in court" he ad-
tended that in the present case there Is
no charge to justify an impeachment
of the presidential authority.
Mr.. Spooner explained the failure to
turn over to the Texas civil authorities
the perpetrators of the Brownsville
crime by saying it has been impossible
to identify them.
TiIIman Asks Floor
Mr.. Tillman asked Mr. Spooner to
yield to him, and the Wisconsin sena-
tor said he would do so for a ques-
ton, but when Mr.. Tillman began his
question with a statement Mr.. Spooner
said he had not yielded for a speech.
IF 1 wanted to make a speech
should do so and speak directly so that
l should be understood" declared Mr.
Tillman.
II don't know about that" replied
Mr.. Spooner.
Mr.. Tillman's question related to the
charges against the men for whom
warrants were issued. and Mr..
Spooner said an answer would not IL
illuminate the subject.
Again Mr.. Tillman sought recogni-
ton. but Mr.. Spooner first undertook to
learn the length of the question he
purposed to ask.
I'm make my question like bullet, "
said Mr.. Tillman.
And shoot ii very slowly, suppose" !"
said Mr.. Spooner.
The question at last admitted was as
to why the president had not adopted
Major Penrose's recommendation for
the ferreting out of the guilty
THE president will never require any
defense from the attacks of the senator
from South Carolina" was Mr.. Spoon
er's reply. He has developed a mania
for attacking the president. L never
have been so surprised by any mans
attitude as l have by that of the sena-
tor from South Carolina. He is so
filed with animosity for the president
that | do not believe his attacks will
be taken seriously"
Mr.. Tillman attempted to reply but
Mr. Spooner declined to yield. He criti-
ctSed Mr.. T1llman Tor the harsh words
he had hurled at the president in un-
tempered speeches. He condemned Mr..
Tillman for impeaching the motive of
the president and ridiculed Mr.. Till
mans claim that he stood for the fun
damental principle of liberty.
quote me accurately" shouted Mr.,
Tillman.
you quote yourself" replied Mr..
Spooner.
Mr.. Tillman then said he had declared
that it was the fundamental principle
of English and American liberty that
every man is innocent until he has beer
proven guilty.
Flags South carolinan
Mr.. Spooner said that was the correct
principle, and that the South Carolinan,
contrary to that principle, had begun
his speech ON the race question by con-
victing~ the whole black race He
scored Mr.. Tillman for the sentiment
before uttered, that we shot 'em, we
killed 'em and wen do it again."
"May | get in?" asked Mr.. Tillman.
"Why do you want to get in?"
"Well, | should like to know how
much provoeation you are going to give
a man without giving him chance to
strike back a little?'
well, get i'm then. l will yield for
question" said Mr.. Spooner.
us that alp
"That is all"
The South Carolina senator took his
seat and was then subjected to one OF
the most direct and most stinging in
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