The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1907-12-29
COLLEGE ATHLETIC PUZZLES
,. c. A. A. a.. s. RRTOTES A DAY
TO DISCUSSION.
association AssImIlates Basketball but
splits On uun1e RasebaIE-HalT New
Football Rules Beard IL selected
Capt. p. ". Pierce Again President.

F0OtDai Rules Beard IL Selected
Capt ?. ". Pierce Again PresIdept.
The second annual mseting or the Inter-
collegiate Athletic Association Of the United
States was held yesterday at the Murray
hhl Hotel. a full day being consumed In the
business Of the association.
Not all the colleges Of the association were
represented by delegates. those who were
present. besides Capt. Palmer n. Pierce.
Y. 5. A. the president. aud Prof. LOUIS
beVter. Jr., Rutgers. secretary. being:
Prof. Chatles J. Ling, Allegheny: Dr. Paul c.
Phillips. Amherst. Prof. Joseph NJ. Wolfe, Buckuell:
Prof. Craven LaycOck Dartmouth Prof. W. w.
Lands. Dickinson. Prof. william r. X. Phillips.
George Washington: Prof. Richard u. sherman.
Hamilton; DR.. James A. Rabbit. Haverford: lar.
Daniel &. Munro, Kenyon: Prof. &. s. ThOrnburg.
Lehigh; Pr0f. Charles y. HOughIOn, New York
Universally: tho Rev. John ". Carmnu. Mag ara:
Prof. Charles y. 81. John. Oberlin and Ohio Wcs-
lryan: ar. n. s. Wlnghrt. ohio State University;
Prof. W. T.. Schroeder. Pratt Institute: Prof George
a. Hoadley, SwarthnOre: Prot. Henry A.. Peck,
syracuse: Prof. II. $. Chase, Tufts: Prof. Howard
Opdyke, Union: Capt. H., J, KOehler. United States
Military Academy: Prof. A. AlOnBO stage. Chicago:
Dr. Henry l.. Williams. Minnesota: Prof. Clark W.
HethertngtOn, Missouri. Prof. James r.. Lees,
Nebraska: DIR. Robert e. TOrrey, Pennsylvania;
PrOf. Waldemar Y. Mctzen,hin. Texas. Dr. II, n.
~Cioudman. Vermont Prof. W. A. Lambeth. Viz
ginln; Prof. ". l.. Dudley. Vanderbilt Prof. r. W.
Nicholson. Wesleyan; Prof. Linton. Western Uni
Versity of Pennsylv anita; Prot. Campbel,, west-
minister; Prof A. ". Chez, West Virginia. ana Prof.
Henry ". Wild, Williams.
There was a great variety n business he
Tore the convention, which took up college
basketball, summer baseball and football in
turn and which considered the matter Of
ScheCuies for the college teams in various
branches Of sport. one thing that might
he taken TO Indicate that the assoCiat ION
gradually IL extending "a influence. as
had been planned. wgS the assimila, ion oil
college basSCtbai. Capt. Pierce. Who had
this matter under his own direction, read
70 the ConNentioa u letter that he had sent
10 she intercollegiate basketball rules COM
miittCe suggesting that the latter Join itself
TO the |. {, \. 4. l. s., a proposition that
met with the approval of tho rules committee.
authority vas given to the executive COM
n,ittee to formally invite the basketball rule
makers and that VIII be done soon. The
resolution Wgs.
Thgt G%uthovity be granted IN the executive com
mittCc 10 form q representative basketball rules
committee, TIL, COMMITTEES to consist for 1904 Of the
present members. Hyatt. Morgan. Fisher. Wander
hit. StllN ell, .SncCrSOn. KHycrOft. Appel. Angel.
That the sar1c he formed and maintained by this
association provided 70 consents TO act sS n repre-
sentative basketball rules m for 1909. carry
ing ON the work m the excellent manner lnHugu-
rated by ".
That the executive committee prepare a by law
for submission 10 the HsoCiauon providing for the
eicctlon OF a uasktthalt ru'es Commlitec In sue
Ceeding years.
That the ommlucc strongly recommends the
following resolutions:
1. That Basketball be recognized as a college
sport and that II he controlled and safcguarccd as
N other intercollegiate games.
:. That the college basketball teams limit their
games ss much IS possible 10 teams representing
Institutions OF learning.
>. That inc college basketbaH teams when they
pay athletic ciubs. !. VI G.. 4. ~ other teams DO so
u0nN.U a.. .Wf.. - - - -
Athletic tnion.
Tbs resolution ~ dss gncd TO limit The
long trips with Iheir deloteriOrs effects an
oeltaS,n b. college teams and 10 Uphold the
disputes over college teams paying unregis-
tered cu) teams AID Others no. eligible AZ
amateurs.
lhc summer baseb1l matter was y hard
battle IN iRe .~cpnSfnton a long, ana eX-
words, WIS submitted by Prof. CLARK W.
Hetheringion Of the Tniversiiy OF Missouri
on he basis OF inquiries directed 10 siNty-One
colleges and universities. he matter showed
that most Of the colleges permitted summer
baseball, not always. with their will. but that
On the basis Of the report. several rcsoIu-
tiOns were offered. One set. which embraced
in a general way a pledge that the institutions
in the association should act only in the spirit
Of amateur.sIn and should tTv TO show the
students that, lying about participation in
and should cause the men who did 80 lie to be-
treated as any other cheat. was adopted will
inRly.
However. another was offered which deaf
with another point. and on that the contention
was strongest. This read:
Whereas the constitution OF the l. c. \. w.
plede es all the constituent colleges and universities
to maintain In stuGcnt %atnicttc sports a'hlch stan
and TO remedy whatever abuses, may exist; there,
Rcs0ircd. That while the responsibility for the
details OF rules rests with the lnilvIduaI instltu.
tions, the association exp eets a bona ndc enforce.
ment of the principles of amateur sport on the
part of all Its members and Invites q report to the
eAccntlye committee on al lnfrlngencnts OF these
That complaints AGAINST any Institution which
on mere runOr hut should relate TO matters OF
fact which the complainant feels able 10 prove by
SRisSac evidence placed before the executive co m
DIR. Williams. of Minnesota and DR.. Torrey
OF Pennsyivania opposed this strongly on
tional and not punitive and therefore was
IN advance OF rs powers ~ attempting 20
mTthermore that the executive committss
really could do nothing in the matter. Tn
supporters of the motion contended that by
publicity they could cause II to be known
that certain colleges we're going contrary 10
the amateur laws and thus create a. public
After debate back and form the summer
baseball resolution, or rather the one cited.
was referred back to the executive commit
toe This was Important, because summer
basebah Is one thing that the I. C.. A. A. 4. =. |
Iva snsSoo 'E Eann 'pa u .sSt ina. ~ DUN,
that the members are not willing TO do more
than put themselves on record that they
think summer baseball is not right. l
A resolution that the association member
should bind themselves in the matter Of
schedule making to o games of football, ~
games Of baseball and ~ games Of basketball
In a season also was lost on the ground that
'Ae association here again would he didaCtic !
and would injuTe its own cause by getting
ahead az ls programme.
Or. Wh!iams for the football rules com
mittee reviewed the past season and declared I,
that he believed football to have been much
improved. The only line that he gave on
the future action Of the football rules com
mittee was that in his belief the forward
pass. would not be changed materially or
eliminated. !
The football rules committee members, /
eeven IN numbers were chosen az follows:
Dr.. n. L.. Williams, Minnesota: DR.. James A.
Rabbit. HayerlPrd: Or. W. l.. Dudley. Van
derbilt: q. n. nall. Dartmouth: Prof. J. I. |
Lees, Nebraska; G. W; SAVAGE, Oberlin. and
Lieut.. II. u. hackett. West Point. The last J
named j. a new member Of the committee. !
succeeding Charles D.. Dalyl the former
Harvard and West Point player. Daily may
be Harvard's representative on the other
committee OF seven, which will nmalga mate
with the men named yesterday to daily with
the football rules for next season.