The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-11-16
Anti Saloon League and
Liquor Dealers Line Up
Against Measure.
COMMITTEE NOT
READY TO VOTE
Decided After Midnight to Con-
slider Matter Again Next Fri
day-Saloon People More
Bitter Than the Tenn
perance Ele-
tnent.

perance Ele-
tnent.
Without reaching o point where !,
could vote finally. the Council Finance
Committee wrestled for several hours
last night with the Dabney liquor ordi-
nance. and finally adjourned early this
morning to take 1t up again next Fri
day afternoon. Though representing
different sides of the question. the Rev.
Z. T. Dadmun. of the Anti-Saloon
/ League; Councilman Umlauf. who has a
more radical law, and six or eight liquor
dealers and their attorney, Mr.. Haery
NJ. Smith, opposed the measure. In
many respects 1t was a novel fight.
| Nobody seemed to be satisfied with the
Eplan, the liquor people opposing II be-
/ cause 1t was too drastic, according to
their way Of thinking, and the tenn
Eperancs element resisting it's passage
because 1t was loose and not drastic
enough"
| Alderman Elicit thought that the
| committee should have awaited the
return of the Baptist and Methodist
ministers, but the effort to DELAY was
defeated. After midnight, when Coun-
Gilman Mills suggested postponement
SO that he could take certain features
| OF the Umlauf ordinance and tack
them on as amendments, the members
/ decided to talk on until morning, and
they had got fairly under way when
/ they changed their minds and agreed
/ to gather more strength before go
| Ing after 1t again.
Liquor Men Filled Chamber.
/ AT times more or less feeling was
infected into the discussion. The
| Ct.ncil chamber was crowded to the
doors with liquor people, and they
/ stood patiently until the end, listen
ting to straightout prohibition argu-
ments and pleas from different speak
| ers that prohibition did not enter into
/ consideration of the question square
ly before Council.
\ When one hour had been allotted to
4 each side Chairman Wood called for
the speakers who represented the Anti.
4 Saloon League, but there was no re-
4 .sponse. Finally Mr.. Umlauf came to
the front Speaking for .the good
i people OF Richmond" he said they did
not propose to stand for the Dabney
4 ordinance for the reason that 1t was
not definite and because it was left
1 to one man to designate the places
4 whore saloons should be located. He
4 wanted something more specific. sonle-,
i thing more dras tic. with the power
vested in Council to fix the residential
section boundaries instead OF having
/ them determined by the Judge Of the
Hustings Court.
After Mr.. Elicit had urged adjourn
ment because of the absence OF minis
tiers, Mr.. Dabney said It was not q
question of Baptist or Methodist: that
they were heard before. and that II
they considered the matter OF such
vital Importance some Of them might
have come over from Petersburg.
Mr.. Dndmun Against 1t.
The Rev. Mr.. Dadmun, who arrived
.llate. said that he had come over from
4 burg for the special purpose OF ap-
}llpearng before the committee.
81 am IN favor OF the Umlauf ordi-
nance and am opposed to the Dabney
ordnance" he said. I'VE desire closer
restrictions. That assault case on
Church Hill may have been due to o
dose of mean whiskey. This sort OF
4 thing makes 1t necessary for the wo-
4 men to return to their homes before
dark.
"Our children would be safer II we
would prohibit this source of liquor
1 danger everywhere.
Mr.. Dadmun repeated much OF his
former speech before another commit
/ tee, In that he urged the removal OF
the saloons from the factory districts.
4 Limit the area OF saloons" he said.
|.and you limit the area OF crime. II
3lyou give us restriction give us real
4 restriction. / would rather have
saloon ordinance that originated With
4 people who arc thoroughly In sympa-
I thy with our efforts to rid the commu-
Unity largely Of the evil"
Mr. Pollard wanted to know II Mr..
.IDadmun would rather have nothing
4 than the Dabney ordinance.
4 II can't say that l would" he replied.
.IsIf had tiger in my backyard that
I couldn't KILL I'd cut off an inch OF
4 his tail, II 1 could do nothing more"
i Mr.. Dabney questioned Mr.. Dadmun
/ as to his statement that be wanted
an ordinance that came from real
! temperance people. Mr. Dadmun an
swered that his statement might have
been lndiscreet. and then he explained
mora In detail what idea he intended
to convey.
Law Enough Says Smith.
Mr.. Harry NJ. Smith, who said he
represented certain liquor dealers in
the residential section, and not the
| entire liquor community by any
means. made an elaborate argument
against the measure. He was not oi,-
posed, he said to proper restrictions.
IT believe that the large number of
bars In Richmond,' said Mr.. Smith, "is
due to the fact that some years ago
we had two hrewerles in which our
4 people took stock. In time of ds-
preston capital was imperiled. and
the holders OF securities, bankers.
4 merchants and Others appealed tn
Judge Witt to be liberal in granting
| licenses.
Judge Witt gets the hlamea but u
he chose to open his mouth and gave
1 the names of those good citizens who
| urged him ia grant licenses there
would be a moment OF distress.
I MIR. Smith took the ground that ths
present law is amply sufficient. IN that
4 bars may be closed on a pc tition OF
those living near,
4 ~ say without fear Of contradic-
/ tion,o he sad IN the statement that
\ il the Allen q Ginter factory coa-
4 siders any bar IN it's neighborhoodg Al
menare, 1t vii be renewed AT once by
Judge Witt on complaint of the scom1