New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1907-02-08


In civil capacity, to help them out of their
predicameut In the mean time. Mr.. Demas
continued his examination of Mrs. Thaw. She
was asked particularly about her return to New
York from Paris and when she next saw Thaw.
She told Of seeing him about a month afterward
at the Hotel Navarro, where she staying.
She would not see him alone, as she explained
she had heard a number of stories about him,
but met him in the presence of a third person.
Continuing the examination was:
o;-Now, then, kindly state what conversation
time. A.-Mr Thaw came into the room and sat
down beside me. l was sitting a trunk, and
MI =, this other man. stood by the window.
think, and I asked him not to go out of the room.
Q.Without mentioning his name, madam, the
gentleman who was there at the time Mr..
Ihaw is member OF the bar of this city? A
Q,-And gentleman in standing? Ayes
Q.-and reputation here? Ayes.
After Mr. Thaw came in and sat down beside me
he he said: What is the matter with your and
th as Fb6R certain nD things about you and
Q.-What reply, If any. did he make Ale
asked ed me what was the matter; that he did not
Gle did not understand? A.-No; and wanted
70 q hnS TOr, what Is. was I the matter
conversation without necessitatng me putting the
Then | told him that I had heard certain stories
aoout MIN that We're very dirty stories. The man
~ y. lou gu need not mention any names. A man
an n5 t t6tG me that ne had put girl in bathtub
~ U1 11 told him that certain man had told
run scalding water on her; is that right? Ayes,
Q;-Proceed madam. A.-And another person had
tod me thar he took morphine and that he was
crazy ana that he in the habit OF taking girls
and tying them 10 bedposts and beating them.
Q-You told all these TO MT Thaw? Al did
Q.-Dld you mention to him the names OF the
parties who had told you these things? A.-Not at
.,Q.-Not at that time? Al did later. but not at
Q:-You simply said that you had heard these
Q.-What reply. did Mr.. Thaw make to you, II
any, to these charges? Ale shook his head
o. sadly you said? Ale said. Poor little
r,S9; E7P9oT little what? Ale said, Poor little
Q.-What also, was said after that? Al also
told him that Mr.. Stanford White had taken me
TO Mr.. Abraham Hummels office and that they
had shown me some documents, or, rather, read
part of it TO me- and showed me his signature and
1t was supposed TO be case that had been brought
T6aw by one Of these persons H.. 49,.
Q-What reply did he make to that, II any? A
He said 1t was blackmail; that he wouldn't pay
but pure case Of biackmaii. and that there was
nothing to It; that If 1 wanted to believe such
e 9SIow long did :hat interview last7 AAbout
oPId VOW persist n refusal to the end
Q.-.WiiI you kindly tell the jury how you parted
or what was said at parting at that timer A
did he would always care most for and
would aways be an angel to him
Yes 9lSsnd 5i@'m0eF that word distinctly A.
Jet whether that term Of endearnent was one
which was commonly used by him In speaking TO
you a.E 2f 9 Ma y93uFA At Arf Sas
Q.-Then you parted? A.-Yes
Q.-But not to see each other again. as you
q Q1or as he might be led to understand A
Q..when did you him again, II at all, after
that? Alt was some time after, don't know
Mrs Thaw told Of other meetings with Thaw
and finally q reconciliation. She said:
next met him at store at the corner Of
think I was in there having some ice cream soda,
and he came in and he me, and he spoke 10
Q.-Well. 1 viii have to trouble you by asking
what Tep ~a a a you MADE or what You said
Ale came up to me and told me that that l0oEed
very well, and he said that ought not TO put any
0 2 NIX it d ook NOT well Inc on m ha
! never should be putting any rouge on my face.
aa sPh dn qt look Gn niece because was very pale
,Q.-Didn't look nice? Ale said 1t didn't look
Q,-was that about all that was said a. that
Q-And then there was no reconciliation A.
S.-When. II at ell. did you see him after that?
Al met him in the street but didn't S stop t9
1ak wth pa a He was with somebody eiSe ana
O.-Wer6 afoOt? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And he also7 Ayes, sir.
Q.-On what street? A;-Broadway.
Q.-You passed then without noticing each other?
Q.EWihat? ANHe merely spoke and passed on.
Q..You mean Just merely the courtesies OF the
day2 A.-Yes, sir.
NET THAW IN CAFE.
o-Now then, did you see Mr. Thaw subsequently
70 Q nv Al saw him the next time at the
e Q.9W 7Sf street or avenue Is that on? Al
think IT Is Sixth avenue and 4Oth street
2LMhat TOOK P5aSe W Was sTprisei to
see him; did not know that he was 20 be there.
O-It was a surprise TO you to meet him there?
Ayes A girl / won't mention her name
panv with this young lady? A-she came after
me and asked me to dine there but did tell me
Mr.. Thaw was 10 be there va
Q.-When you came to this place. you met Mr.
o'mverY we'll What we are interested in now,
nd the only thing we interested I'm to
that is what took place If anything, between your
s ssf ana IN Pay eaed ." The Girl fTo
Q.0You were going back on the stage2 A-Yes;
think It was going open that night don't
member exactly And he said I looked badly and
he didn't think was able TO dance and he wished
would and then he said II would keep away from
the theatre he wG1d Iy any yaf re
merely for the sake Of my health would not go
- o'|what was his manner. madam, saying that?
A oHTery KIND KIND. What answer did you make? A
o 5alf me ask you If at that time you had any
Q.-You had none other. Was that fact known TO
Mr.. Thaw? Al think so. ,.-
time? Adjoining that ! remember.
9-bd yoH remain there he %ith d RImI o
Q1Do You remember the date Of that occur
Q.~Before Christmas of 1903? Then I must ask
you when you met Mr. Thaw again after that