New-York tribune., 1907-04-17
"TLLUSIONS OF PEACE"
Professor Manstcrbcrg Thinks Re
formers Seek Too Much.

That Andrew Carnegie and a large percentage or
HIS fellow peace couferrces now in session in car
ueEle Hall still possessed % Illusions which
they will have 10 get over II they arc 70 do any
thing practical toward obtaining peace among tho
nations IS tho opinion of Professor Hugo Minister
berg Despite tho public rrbuke which he got
from Mr.. Carnegie nj the hig meeting Monday
night, for hts defence ~ Tho German army n
hne national training school and disciplinary es-
tabliHhment the professor SIN cl.ngs 10 the views
that aroused Mr. CsrneRle's Indignation.
incidentally. tao professor thinks something IN
this country thar would give is citizens training
and discipline similar 10 that obtained by Germans
IN the German army service would AID Mr. Car
negie and others I'm their peace endeayor-
The Harvard professor did not want 10 dlscrrs
yesterday the little break IN the serenity Of tho
peace meeting Monday night. lie said he
thought hts indignation n Mr.. Caruege's dec
laration that lie was too old 10 fall Tor college
professors with theories had been measured up
TOO large in the newspaper accounts Of the meet
ing Indignant, he said not the word to de-
scribe his feeling az tho incident; Indifferent
would be far better. he said
Professor Munsterberg disclaimed yesterday a.
the Hotel Manhattan even an overnight resent
ment toward AIR. Carnegie for rdicung his Views
where crowded Carnegie Hall might see and hear
and laugh
The professor said lie knew he was going TO be a
Daniel usherNd into don of peace lions long be-
fore he left Cambridge for Carnegie Hall
for several days before the meeting Professor
AunsterberG said he had submitted his speech 10
the president Of the Peace Congress Mr. Carnage
felt sorry, too the professor said when the latter
expostuated with him for starting public discus
sion not down the printed programme and he
had admitted that the words might as well have
beer left unsad.
MY chief regret said Professor NGnaterberr
lis the bad effect this little and natural difference
Of opinion will have the Peace Congress ana III .
peace movement. You see how II has been snappei 7
up already by the newspapers and EMPLOYED 10
spread the impression that dsseuSion IS rife among
the conferrees. But IN sense II has had n good
effect. for # shows that Mr. Carnegie and many
others Identified with the peace movement sim
cherish illusions"
illusions oP~delusons. professor" was asked
Well perhaps both. AS you Will" replied the
professor. who has won wide fame as a psycho-
ogist.
This is but an example" continued Professor
Mdnsterberg. Of Mr.. Carnegie's illusion about The
real sentiment OF the German people toward the
the invitation to attend the Congress and speaL
for GERMANY knew of these illusions prevailing.
and feIt II my duty: II ! were to do any good AZ
the congress TO help to destroy at least one nf
them AND then. he continued with an express
sVe shrug or the shoulders. Mr., Carnegie asks me
10 consult the Germans I'm his mills in PlttsbIra ~
discover Whhl the Germans really think about their
Without the army a great school for train
capable or making the industrial progress they had
nor would the attainment of their proud place i'm
the world OF art and science have been possible
Alr CaFheSIe ana others believe there thinEa
10 be reformed. and are eager ito reform them .
continued me professor Heres their chance. It
Is Just what this country needs. discipline and
training IN the schools and elsewhere"
vice for all Americans?" was asked '''''"'S ser
mo, not at ALL was the quick reply "Condi-
R we iaeK here S ns tbst and
that the army affords the Germans