The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1907-09-14
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| than the original package. But whole
| saler in selling to others than retail
dealers, to consumers, should sell in
quantities not less than the original
packages and at prices which would
permit the retailer to compete with
him.
1.-THE persons to whom Federal Ii
censes have been issued would be some
| indication of where to look for blind
pigs The indexes of the Internal Rev
enue Office are open to the public. This
would not be an exact guide, but some
| Illicit dealers are violating both the
! Federal and Territorial laws"
| r. j. Buchly of w. C. Peacock & Co.
said that he agreed in the main with
what Mr.. Lishman had said. He be.
lieved that the issuance of retail Ii
censes would very largely do away
with the blind pigs" He believed the
| wholesalers could do something. His
firm would not knowingly sell to a
blind pig He felt sure that his firm
| would be glad to do all in its power to
aid the board. q
David H. Lewis of Lovejoy & Co.
said: ct do not agree with Mr.. Lish-
man that the issuance of retail IL
censes would necessarily prevent Illicit
selling. / do not think it would. When
/ first came to this country a. good
many years ago was in Eilo for q
number of years. At that time there
were no licenses issued for any place
outside of Honolulu. There was GER
tain firm there that paid from two to
three thousand dollars year in fines
for selling liquor illicitly. But 1t did
not stop the selling. The firm would
have paid ten thousand dollars in fines
if they had been imposed, and still con-
tinue to do business.
II do not think that a license issued
for a saloon on Punchbowl would
lessen the Illicit selling there to any
appreciable extent. A man disposed to
sell will take a good many chances
to save the thousand dollars he would
have to pay for a license"
There is one thing that we all admit
was a mistake" said Mr.. Lishman.
land that was the unrestricted condi-
tions of the restaurant licenses. They
don't pay as much as the retail sa-
looms and they have more privileges.
The way business is carried on in the
restaurants, and which under the con-
to be allowed, the restaurants can sell
rst like the saloons and yet they don't
have to pay so much. Take the retail
licenses, too; they infringe on the
wholesale license. The retailer can sell
in any quantity Of course, all the
points of law involved have not been
decided by the courts as yet. OF course,
the retail licensees can't deliver to
A11n 1ioor1 ar
premises, while the wholesalers can
deliver to their customers anywhere.
"I see no difference between the
rights of the retailer and the whole
saIer in that respect" said Mr.. LAM.
THE wholesaler under his Federal IL
cense must make an unconditional sale
and delivery on the licensed premises.
After that he can direct his servant
or employee to deliver it anywhere that
may be agreed on by buyer and seller.
That has all been threshed out in the
courts and is we'll established, and /
see no reason why it should not apply
under this local law as well as under
the Federal"
TT is quite true" said Mr.. Ballen-
tyne, chat there are some unsettled
points of law. To my mind it is clear
that there is a GEAR line OF ueH1dfCd-
ton between retail and wholesale bust
ness and that when the law says that
the retailer may sell in any quantity it
means in any retail quantity. think.
with Mr.. Lishman, that the wholesaler
should be protected from the retailer,
and that the retailer should be pro-
tected from the restaurant lieensee. But
when the time comes for the renewal
of licenses, the board can take into
consideration the manner in which IL
censees have conducted their bust
ness"
eff the board notifies you of the
names of the twenty blind pigs OF
whose existence we have some knowl-
edge, though not enough to convict,
and any one of you wholesalers con-
tinued to sell to any of them. don't
you think we would have a right to
call on you for an explanation" asked
Gilman, addressing Lishman particu-
larly. Lishman thought the board
would.
ct is not as easy a matter as you
seem to think said. Lewis, 'to dis |
tinguish between bona f1de customers