The evening star and Newark advertiser. [volume] (Newark, N.J.) 1907-1908, 1907-10-08
TO BUY FIRE TRUCK
COUNCIL DECIDES
BY PARTY VOTE.
Mayors Objections on Ground of Cost
Were Apparently Withdrawn on
Snap Committee Meeting.

For tn first time in some months the
Orange Common Council was the scene
of a lively discussion last night, In
which the Democratic and Republican
members were arrayed against each
other. Majority Leader Edward S.
Perry called up the veto by Mayor
Shoenthal of the resolution for pur-
chase of an American La France fire
truck, with chemical tanks attached.
By a strict party vote, the ten Repub-
licans voting for and the five Demo-
Gratis against. the veto was brought
before the Council and a motion Of
fered by Mr.. Perry that the resolution
be passed, Notwithstanding the Mayors
veto, was passed.
Chairman Daniel G. Bury, of the IRE
committee, started the ball rolling by
havlng read a letter from the American
Jectlons of Mayor Shoenthai. The let
ter recited that very suggestive Lam
guage hau been used by his Honor and
the concern suggested that the Mayor
should be more sure of what he said
before rushing into print. To the COM
plant of the Mayor that the Montciair
people mad secured a truck as good as
Orange needed for a much less sum
than was named as the cost price of
the assurance that the Montclair ap-
paratus was not as good as the pro-
posed orange truck. There was a diff
adder on the Orange machine and a
tiller lock was added to the equipment
worth 800. Furthermore, the prices of
material 40 per cent. since three wears
ago, the time the Montclair rig was
ought The company denied the inn
ana, speaking of the people who had
been always ready to criticize, said the
critics of the Council majority should
20 ana apologize to the body if they
were made of the right kind of stun
mr.. Bury then explained the plans the
committee decided upon at a conference
with Mayor Shoenthal. which were in ell
rect that the new truck, if purchased,
would be. placed in the Garfield street
mousse, and the present shaky truck would
De repaired and sent to the Valley house.
Inc chemical apparatus in Garfield street
would pe sent to the Valley house also,
and the Valley hose wagon would be
placed III Garfield street. Tn Fifth Ward
nose wagon. was to be equipped with a J
thirty-ive gallon chemical tank. Mr.,
Bury announced these plans We're decided
upon by the committee majority, Repub-
leans.
.'WheD was that arrangement decided
upon?' asked Councilman Philip f. limp
son, the lone Democrat on the committee.
Why, this evening" answered Mr.. Bury.
Then, why was l not notified of the
MI. Bury was -flustered for u momen
but IL later developed the meeting of
last night was merely an informal confer
ence, and that the changes were decided
upon at a meeting while Mr.. Timpson and
Councilman Coleman L. Nissan, of the
committee, were away.
Il informed Mr.. Nissan tonight of the
decision" continued MI. Bury, and
Mr.. Timpson retorted, H"Well, I have not
been Informed" and then followed up the
point with some rapid-fire questions as to
when the meeting had been held. Then it
developed the meeting was on September
l6, when Mr. T1mpson was away on q yaca-
ton.
Mr.. Bury said that Mayor Shoenthal at
the conference had fax0rad fho ~.
and explained he had been mistaken in his
veto talk about the Montclair apparatus,
and that the officials had decided they
could settle the differences over the truck
without engaging In further newspaper
controversy. Mr.. Davis stated he a a
talk with regard to this phase with Mayor
Shoenthal just before the meeting, and
His Honor denied the statement attributed
to him.
Was It not part of the agreement you
made with Mayor Shoenthal that you were
TO ~readvertise for a new truck and that
you are not going to do so?' asked Mr..
P1mpson, and getting an admission that
that was true, he warmly urged 1t was not
falr to bring up for discussion at the meet
ing part of the agreement that suited GER
tain members of the committee without
taking up all the matter that was consid-
cred.
Secretary Bergman, of the fire commit
tee, said his minutes stated Mayor Shoen-
thai had the talk with the committee tina
Chairman Bury spoke of, and he insisted
he had not forged the minutes. He had
asked the Mayor to withdraw the veto,
but the executive said he couldn't do that
Councilman Seymour then asked If the
new arrangement of disposing of the anna
ratus suited the member who submitted
the minority report of the fire COMMITTEES.
Mr.. Nissan said 1t did, and reiterated his
former objections to the truck with a
chemical apparatus and declared the shift
ing about of the different wagons met his
objections to the original proposition.
Leader Perry then arose and, answering
Mr.. Timpson, said the Council meeting was
the proper place to brinN up the matter.
He thought the Mayor had not been fair
In his actions. Mr.. Perry said he had voted
for the truck on their recommendation OF
the chief Of the fire department, who had
admitted he changed his mind after an ex-
p%erience, which showed if he had such a
rig as was favored for purchase he would
have saved money at a fire. Mr.. Timpson
said he objected only to the fire committee
chairman bringing before the Council part
of the agreement talk and not az of it.
Leader Davis, of the minority, wanted to
know why the committee failed to carry
out the agreement with the Mayor to re-
He wondered at the sudden haste
after the matter had lain dormant so long.
President Shaw then put directly to
Chairman Bury the query:
did you agree-to readvertise?
Mr.. Bury said the ommitt had but
owing to the fact that the La France peo-
pie absolutely refused to come down in
their price and a competing company had
used bad faith by offering a truck to East
Orange for 81, $50, although asking ORANGE
to pay $4,000, they decided readvertising
would accomplish nothing and went ahead
The resolution was then passed by the Re-