The Montgomery advertiser., 1907-06-11

 Haywood. Mover and Pettibone. He said he thought the first money he re- ceived from Pettibone was handed over in the latteys store.
 Speaking for himself and Adams, Orchard said: -..,
 During the time we were working on MT. Peabody we got $50 or s1oO whenever. we asked for it."
 He said he was gambling and lead ing something of a absolute life Now, from all you have said and you know, these defendants had noth- ing to do with planning the vindicator Mine explosion?" suggested Richard son.
 Nothing other than to pay for it." replied Orchard.
 T limited my question as to plotting and planning" said Richardson. They had nothing to do with planning the Lyte Gregory"
 No, so far as I know" replied the witness.
 Then they had nothing to do with any of your outrages until the Inde- pendence depot affair."" T believe they had something to do with it. yes sir q mean as to planning" No, they did not plan it." As to the Independence depot affair, | Orchard said 1t was planned to blow up the depot before tho arrival of the train. This was arranged to save the | trainmen. And you didn't intend to blow up anybody but just this depot which was simply a stopping without an agent or | anybody there2" non-union men who took the train l there"
 Why did you want to save the train men?" asked Richardson with signifl- cant infection. sherman Parker said that ono of the | men on the train had been a good wit ness for him in the trials and he did | not want him hurt" But this was the same train you felt sore about not being selected to wreckT'
 "Yes sir" Denied Talking to Detective. Orchard denied that he had talked to 1 railroad detective Scott about the plans to blow up the depot and save the train. l He also denied that it was on Scotts | account he agreed to save the train. You expected to kill fifty men that night?"
 T didn't know how many" | You thought the more the merrier, | didn't you?' T wasn't thinking about it." You didn't care whether 1t was one or one hundred, did your" 1 T wasn't thinking about it," repeat | cd the witness somewhat sullenly. Attorney Richardson asked Orchard to make a pencil sketch of the Inde- pendence depot, the railroad tracks and | the direction in which he ran after the | explosion The witness promptly com | piled, drawing diagram with a steady | hand.
 Orchard said that after the explosion | he went to Denver with Johnny Nevill | and the 1atter's 14-year-old son. Reaching Denver, Orchard went to Jack Simpkin's room. James Kirwan, now acting Secretary Treasurer of the | Western Federation of Miners, was there but went out before the Indepen- dence affair was discussed. Haywood | and Pettibono came in later and said with Simpkins that 1t had been a fine job
 Had they given you any instructions | about the affair."" NO sir"
 What did they say?" Haywood asked how much money wanted. He said not to take too much that could get more at any time wanted It."
 There had been no arrangement in dQVdHce to pay you d SlnBlS QOItdT TOT 1 this affair, had there?" 'T expected to get dollar, yes sir" Orchard said there was no particular agreement about the Independence de- pot. He blew 1t up as part of his gen. eral instructions to Ego ahead and cut things loose" The Wyoming Trip.
 After reporting in Denver about the Independence explosion, Orchard said ha ing and hunting trip in wyoming. He got Pettibone to buy him the outfit. including fishing and hunting tackle and arms. Pettibone. who was in bus mess had told him he could get the goods cheapest.
 When you left for Wyoming 1t was your purpose to locate there. wasn't it?"
 Yes"
 Orchard said he told his Colorado wife that he would write to her.
 Asked If the Pinkertons had taken care of her since that time. Orchard said he didn't know of it.,
 During the Cripple Creek strike she drew relief money regularly as a miners wife. She also got other money than the relief. Orchard assert ed
 Orchard said Haywood had promised to buy him a ranch when he got through in Colorado. P=e thought the promise was made at the time he went to Denver to bodyguard Mover on his trip to Ouray.
 Didn't it make enough of an inn precision to fix the time indelibly on your mind?" : No"
 Had you ever had enough money to buy a ranch"
 Yes"
 "When?
 "In Canada"
 Was this the money you collected on the cheese factory you burned?"
 Yes"
 Then you had committed arson be- fore you burned Neville's saloon near Independence?"
 I'd done 1t. yes"
 Had Committed Arson Before. factory near Arlington, ont. He was age at the time. His nrst crime. he believed. was weighing cheese up short"
 Orchard had said earlier in this ex- animation that up to the time he left Canada he had never been charged with a serious crime.
 Orchard was being questioned further about his experience in Wyoming when .-te luncheon recess until l.30 in the afternoon was ordered
 Orchard had testified previously that he sent at Moran from Cheyenne to Denver to get $500 from Pettibone Today Orchard said he had not met