New-York tribune., 1907-05-27
HANSON SEES HUMMEL.
TALKS OF GOULD CASE.
Lazryer, IN Little Island Home, Says
He Told of DctectUeS.

Abraham Hummel. who is serving year FOR
conspiracy received his first visitor on Black
wells Island Yesterday when Deputy Police
Commissioner Hanson made q special trip 10
ask him regarding the statement of Mrs Howard
Gould that Hummel had told her she was being
shadowed by city detectives. The lawyer VINO
was counsel for Katherine Clemmons for several
years before her marriage TO Mr.. Gould, said he
had not specified city detectives.
"On several occasions" he said to Mr.. Han
son, Il told Mrs. Gould her movements Were
being watched by detectives. l did not say
they were city detectives, because did not know
of their espionage. Mrs. Gould must nave
jumped to the conclusion that meant Central
Office ner.
while | know Inspector Mclaughlin, had
no knowledge that he was working on the case
AS for Lieutenant W. +. Peabody, do not know
him"
1t is believed that counsel for Mrs. Gould Will
make an official complaint TO United states Al
torney Stfmson and the postofiice authorizes
to-day that her mail has been tampered with
Her lawyers have what they think is conclusive
evidence that somewhere in transit letters ad-
dressed to Mrs. Gould were opened and copied
in tracing paper She also believes that many
letters which from time to time should nave
reached her were stolen, although when they
were missed she simply thought they had been
lost
W s. Ayaver chief inspector of the Postoffice
Department in this city has assured counsel
ior Mrs Gould that any evidence she may nave
of Irregularities IN the postal service would re-
ceice careful avrentton
Deputy Commissioners Hanson has the names
Of half a dozen ieutenants, formerly detective
sergeants g.ho were close to Inspector Nc
Laughlin when no was in charge Of the Detec-
tive Bureau. and ne will probably sound these
men as to any knowledge they may nave
of the work done by men in the Dureau on the
Gould case Lieutenant William Funston VINO
was a fayorite of Mclaughlin. will be one OF
the men questioned by Mr.. Hanson. The latter
thinks that the descriptions Mrs Goulo gives
of men she believes were watching her fit to
a certain extent some Of the city detectives
Mrs Gould it is understood, will have the
opportunity of examining photographs of these
men, If she believes she recognizes any oil
them. some plan will be arranged for her to see
the men face to face She has already told Mr'
Hanson she is willing To do anything he may
suggest toward determining just what men IN
the department were used to spy on her. II is
not thought. however that she will he required
to come down to headquarters for this.
Mr. Hanson intimated last night that he had
no reason for summonng Howard Gould at the
present stage of the Investigation, but sooner or
later he would probably be asked for his own
story of the case.
That Big" Hawey was taken to headquarters
twice on orders Of Inspector Mclaughlin has
been determined Lieutenant Valley admitted
having gone out once for Hawley Who
brought hil in the second time is yet to be
learped
Deputy Commissioner Hanson does not intend
10 let his reformation OF questionable practices
In the Police Department rest with the investi-
CATION of one case. He has had his attention
Germs situation similar to- that In the Gould
case, Will be looked into later.
There has already been some investigation of
other work done by members of the detective
bureau, which on the surface looks II IL had
been misuse Of the power In the hands OF the
city detectives. Mr Hanson says he has no
desire to rake up ancient scandals in the depart
prevent further abuse OF power the part OF
men in the city service
Deputy Commissioners Hanson went TO Black
wells Island on the police boat Patrol. Although
MI Humnel had previously refused to a
member Of his old firm and some Of his relatives
he consented 10 talk with Mr.. Hanson The
Deputy Commissioner found him I'm bed in a
hospital ward, which contained five or six other
patients He weak. but his remarka BILE
nerve had not left him. According TO Mr Han
son, he seemed both "plucky and light hearted"
He gave the Deputy Commissioner no inforna-
ton Of value. although he declared his willing
ness To do anything publicly or privately TO aid
Mrs. Gould In her suit.
1t IS understood that Delaney Nicoll, attor-
ney for Mr.. Gould, has prepared his answer 10
the complaint Of Mrs. Gould and IL may be
served on her counsel to-day.