The Birmingham age-herald. [volume] (Birmingham, Ala.) 1902-1950, 1907-02-20

! termined TO make 1t thorough one.
In completing her direct testimony, Mrs
| Thaw had told of the conversations sh'
and her husband had had regarding thu
fate Of other young women at the hands
| of Stanford White. One of these girls wa
| known THE Pie Girl" She was 1
years of age. and wore only a gauze dres
| when she spranE from a big pie at a stat
dinner.
The witness declared that May Mac
| kenzie had told her that Stanford White
| when told that she and Harry were very
| happy together, had remarked:
Pooh, it won't last. | will get hel
| back"
Harry Thaw's letter to Anthony Com
stock. describing three houses or studios
of which he declared Stanford White and
"other scoundrels' lured young girls. was
read. Among the places described was the
house on West Twenty-fourth street,
where the velvet swing and the mirrored
bed room were located
Mrs. ThaW on the Stand.
Mrs. Thaw looked pale and serious as
she took her place on the stand. She ap-
peared in the same simple, girlish costume
that she has worn every day since the
trial began. She smiles slightly as she
caught her husbands eye. Thaw returned
the smile, and then turned to Attorney
O'Reilly, with whom he talked for a
minute exeitedly. Then he returned to
his conversation with Or. Evans, but for
the most part kept his eyes on his wife
only turning occasionally to whisper In
the doctors ear.
After Mrs, Thaw had sat In the wit
ness chair for nearly five minutes, Mi.
Delmas began his examination.
You have already testified, Mrs. Thaw,
that you are familiar with the handwrit-
ing of Stanford White" said the attor-
M n and SIX
if from beginning to end 1t is in the hand
writing of Mr.. White?'
Mrs Thaw gazed at the paper, evil
IDENTIFY a letter, and said:
ut is his handwriting"
Mr.. Delmas handed the witness six
other letters, and they also were identi-
fled as having come from Stanford White.
exhibits, @, r, S, T, U. V and W.
After a moments delay, still other LETT
tiers were identified.
Letter after letter Mr.. Delmas handed
the witness. and she identified each one
by a simple inclination of her head. She
took the letters in her hand, one at a
time and only glanced at each before sha
returned ii to the attorney. When Mrs.
Thaw had identified thirty letters. Mr..
Demas returned to the counsel table and
then brought forth new package and
the work of identification continued.
ldentyfies Forty-two White Letters.
In all Mrs. Thaw identified forty-two
letters. She was nearly half an hour at
the task
There were two vacant places at the
table occupied by the attorneys for the
defense this morning, the seats usually
occupied by Mr.. Gleason and Mr. Pea
body, leaving only four lawyers present,
Mr. Delmas, Mr.. Hartridge, Mr.. O'Reily
NI6pilya m Mr.
Gleason was suffering from tootbache,
Mr. Peabody, it was said, was examining
witnesses.
As the examination of the letters was
concluded; Mr.. Delmas turned to the wit
ness and said: "How long have you known
May MacKenzie?"
"Since 1901"
"How long has Mr. Thaw known hero
"Since 1904"
'Did you. in May, 1906 relate to Mr..
Thaw a conversation you had with May
Mackenzie. especially with reference to
what she said to you regarding Stanford
White?"
District Attorney Jerome objected to the
question. but was overruled,
May Mckenzie.
MAY Mackenzie said to me-" said
Mrs. Thaw, stanford White had been to
see her, and that she had told him that
anu were RtIllHEp dlullB DHtly lO-
gether. She said she thought 1t was so
nice the way we loved each other"
"She said Stanford White had remarked
Pooh, it won't last. l will get her
back -
Did Mr.. Thaw saw anything when you
told him this?"
He said he had already heard it from
Miss Mackenzie"
what was his condition when you told
him.
THE way he always was when on the
subject of Stanford White, very excited
and nervous"
you had a second operation in 1905
did you not?'
Yes"
"who made the arrangements for il
and paid the cost"
Harry X. Thaw."
GLOW much was the bill?'
I'm all about $1,000 The operation itsel
was $1,000
Did Mr.. Thaw have any conversation
with the attending physician at that tim'
| regarding your previous relations will
| Stanford White?"
NO. sir, not in my presence"
Did Mr.. Thaw at the time of your mar
riage and subsequent thereto talk very
| much about the incident in your life con
neeted with Stanford Whte?'
Would Wake Sobbng.
Yes lie always talked about il. l.
| would waken me often at night sobbng
| and then he would constantly ask IN,
| questions about the details of this ter
| rible thing"
Did you visit May Mackenzie at he
apartments in 1902"
Yes, sir. She was M
while you We're there, did Stanton,
| White come in?'
Yes"
Did you tell Mr., Thaw of anything
| that then occurred?'
"Yes. Stanford White spoke to me sev
| eral times, and | always answered We:
or no. He then came over and started tt
straighten a bow on my hair My hail
was short. having been cut off at th'
| time of my first operation. Then Stan
| ford White tried to put his arms aroun(
me and wanted me to sit beside him OF
the bed I told him TO leave me alone"
Mrs. Thaw said that Harry Thaw al
ways attributed her i'll health, the neces
| sity for the second operation. etc, tC
Stanford White. Mrs Thaw also testi
| fed that Thaw had told her that he wa!
| going to take up Stanford Whites at
| fairs with Anthony Comstock | told hin
it would do no good, that Stanford Whit
| had many influential friends, and tina
| he could stop 1t. | told him that lots o
people would not believe the things ahou
| Stanford White on account of his per
sonality.
| did you and Mr. Thaw discuss tn
| fates Of other young women at the hand
| of Stanford White and did you tell hin
| certain names?"
Mr.. Jerome objected Counsel keeps nj
| this incessant leading, leading. leading,
| commented Mr. Jerome II must object.
| Mr. DeImas reframed the question, am