Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-06-10
went &C. Petitioners backyard and
buried the sawed of shotgun and theu


went home,
Orchard denied he had ever Jumped
from a window of the Adams hotel
While Chief Loomis OF the Denver de
tective force was looking for him
After long line OF questioning which
developed little that was material. Atty.
Richardson suddenly turned on or
chard and shouted;
Look here have YOU bepn cautioned
not to give definitely any time or place
during this crosS-cNamnation?"
II have bcen cautioned as to moth
ing retorted the witness with feeling,
but to tell the truth
WHO CAUTIONED HIN?
who cautioned you?" demanded
Richardson's
NH. Mcfarland and Nj, Hawlcy."
Mi Mcfarland Is your mentor in
this matter?"
Il don't know what you mean by
mentor"
II mean he has coached you
NO sir: no moro than to tell me to
tel the truth"
You have also received letter from
Mr.. Bangs of New York. the superm-
tendent of detective agency, encour-
aging you haven't you
Orchard said he had never seen any
such letter. lie also denied thai hc
had ever received letter from William
A. Plnkerton.
The witness was next required 10 re-
late the details surrounding each &c
casion on which he received money
from Haywood, Meyer or Pettibone
He said he thought tho first money no
received from Pettibone was handed
over in the latter's store.
And that was a public place Wasn't
it, asked Richardson
Wa went N Tho ro.t. D.,
Orchard said Pettibone had several
employees in the store and rented desk
room TO Two or more persons. He said
that there was usually no one present
at the moneSi interviews except him
sell Steve Adams and either Haywood
Meyer or Pettibone. Speaking for him
self and Adams, Orchard said:
During the time we were worlir,.
on Mr.. Peabody we got S50 ~, xia6
whenever we asked for it." Ho safd si be
was gambling and leading sometime
of a dissolute life.
VINDICAT-R CASE.
Now. from all you have said and
all that you know, these dofendants
bad nothing to do with planning the
Nlndlcator mine eXplOsionT sug-
sested Richardson.
replied Orchard.
limited my question as to plotting
and planning, said Richardson They
had nothing to do with planning the
Nlndicator explosion OF the killing of
Lyte Gregory"
witness. '''e
Then they had nothing 10 do with
any OF your outrages until Inc In
dependence depot AFFAIR."
II believe they had something to do
with It, yes, SIR
II mean as to planning"
No, they didn't plan IT,"
AS To the independence depot AFFAIR
Orchard said IT was planned to blow
up the depot before the arrival of the
train. This was arranged to save the
trainmen.
And you didn't intend to blow up
anybody but this depot. which was sim
ply stopping place without an agent
or anybody there?"
TO KILL NoN-UNIoN MEN.
Eyes, sir; we intended blowing IN the
non-union men who took the Train
there"
why did you want to save the train
ficant infection.
Sherman Parker said that one OF the
men on the train had been a good Wit
ness for him in the trials and he did
not want him hurt
But this was the same train Won
felt sore about not being selected to
wreck"
yves, sir"
Orchard denied that he had talked
10 Railroad Detective Scott about the
plans TO blow up the depot and save
the train He also denied that 1t was
ON SCOTS account he agreed to save
the train.
You expected to kill 30 men that
night?"
II didn't know how many"
You thought the more the merrler,
didn't you?"
II wasn't thinking about IT,"
You didn't care whether II was one
or 100. did your"
II wasn't thinking about it 10" repeat
ed the witness. somewhat sulIeuly,
ORCHARDS DRAWN PLANS.
Atty. Richardson asked Orchard to
make a pencil sketch Of the lndepend-
ence depot, the railroad tracks and the |
direction in which he ran after the eX-
plosion. The witness promptly COM |
piled, drawing the diagram With steady |
hand.
orchard said that after the explosion |
he went TO Denver with Johnny Ne
Vile and the latter's 14-year-old son. +,
ON the "trip the elder Neville taxed Or |
chard with the crime.
Did the boy hear this2' asked Rich 1
ardson.
we tried to talk so he wouldn't"
But you were all three together"
''Ntost OF the time
do YOU say the boy couldn't hear
because you know he is alive
mo"
Reaching Denver Orchard went TO
Jack SimplSins' room. James Kirwan,
now acting secretary treasurer Of the
Western Federation OF Miners was
there but went out before the indie
pendence affalr was discussed. Hay
wood and Pattibone came in later and
said with Simpkins that # had been a
fine Job
Had they given you any instruc-
ticns about the affair."
mo, sir"
What did they say"
Haywood asked how much money
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