The San Francisco call., 1907-06-16
Continued From Page 2s, Column

member correctly. did intimate as much
10 me one day that Mr.. Ruef would be
employed
Who was he? Al. e. Greene.
Wv nat was it he said about it?
- oont recollect It outside of the
-Htihaton that RuefJ might hold the
proposition up If he wesn't employed.
WAS IL being held up at that time
as matter of fact? Had it been intro
ooced in the board of supervisors? A.
Yes. sir.
e.-And postponed from time to time?
Alt was not exactly postponed
On committee? Alt was in the
committee, believe, and the Examiner
came out against the thing very strong
~ because several members of the
board OF supervisors had stated that it
should be a municipal road The EK-
anlner tried to block it as much as
posslole. My employment with the COM
pany was in the management of the
selling end of the real estate. 1 didn't
20 INTO the details as much as might.
II my employment has been different.
Q-Do the books show any payment
OF money to Ruef? A-Not to my
recollection, no. sir.
Q-Do you know how much money
was paid or to be paid to him? Al
could not say.
Odd you ever carry any money
10 Cmbsen's office? A-Yes. sir.
Q--Didn't know how much? Al
know how much / had carried, yes, SIR
9-How much? A--rhirty thousand
o-what kind of money was it?
A-7Paper
o.-what did you taxe it there for?
Al was told TO do It
Q.-Who told you? Al. z. Green.
Q--What did he say? A-Take it
10 Gus.
o--fs that all he said? A.-Yes. sir.
Q.-Where did the currency come
from? A.-The bank, Crocker- Wool
worth bank.
o.-was the office of the company in
the Croker building? A--Yes. sir.
Q-On what floor? A-Third floor.
o.-Is that the same floor that Din
gees Office is on? A-Yes, sir. Din
gees office is on the same floor.
Odd J. Z. Green give you a check
10 lake downstairs to get the currency?
A.-Yes, sir.
Q-What is the use Mr. Watson, in
your hanging back this way? Al
am not hanging back
Q.-Wait a moment and I viii show
YOU; you said Green gave you the
mnoey and told you to take it to Gus.
He didn't do anything of the kind.
You say now he gave you a check. He
didn't merely give you the money and
say Take il, Gus You went down
and got it at the bank What did he
say A--No use putting it that way;
pardon me, just minute
Q.-I am giving your statement. We
gre giving you an opportunity to come
in and testify We could have turned
around and connected you with this
matter You are getting an opportu-
nifty and make the best of it. Al am
thoroughly glad to do so. didn't t
mean to hold back.
Q.-You don't mean TO tell freely and
frankly all you know when / asked
you in the first place. Take my advice
and Go it. Al was given check.
Q.-Go on and say all you were told.
A.-Two checks to cash and take it to
Tmbsen.
Q-What was said to you and who
said it? A.-There was very little said
Q.-What was said? A.-Mr. Green
said Make out two checks, go down
stairs and get the money and put it in
an envelope and take il over apd leave
ST on Mr.. Umbsen's desk" which I did
Q.-That isn't all he said. You would
not know who TO make them to or how
much. A.-The book keeper made two
checks. One was made to me personally
and one to II. P. Umbsen personally.
Q.-How much2 A--Fifteen thou
sand dollars q piece.
Q-What did he say to do with
IlEInE A--llTn Inem INTO large DlllS.
put them in an envelope and leave on
3Ir. Umbsen's desk.
Q.-What did you do with the Umb-
sen check? Al went over and had
Harry Umbsen endorse it, Took it to
him and had him endorse it, brought
ft back and got the money.
Odd you get the money on yours
first or did you get the check of Umb-
sen indorsed? Al got it Endorsed
first and took both down and got the
money.
Q.-Did you understand what that
was for? A-Not exactly, no sir; l
had a hunch.
Q.-It was for Ruef Al imagined
50.
Q.-What was this that Green said
that intimated Ruef was TO be en-
ployed Al don't think Ruefs name
was ever mentioned to me-
Q.-What was said? Al don't
Tecollect very much what was said
outside Of the fact checks were to be
made out and more or less of a tacit
understanding on my part what they
were for.
Q--There must have been something
that gave you that impression or you
would not take a check in your own
name. indorse it and let It go through
the books that way charged to you
without some idea why you were do
ing it. Any office was on one floor
and Mr.. Green's was on another and
sometimes he would come down and
say do this or that ] was employed
there as secretary which was, as far
as the secretaryship was concerned.
1t was simply position. I was en-