The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-11-23
By Vote Of 6 to q Council
Is Urged to Pass the
Liquor Measure.
WOULDN'T CHANGE
NUMBER OF BARS.
One Amendment Is Accepted,
Others Being Voted Down-El-
lett Says Christian People
Believe Law Is Good.
Pollock 10 Send
in Substitute.

BY a vote of 6 to 4. the Finance
Committee recommended to Council
yesterday the passage of what is
known as the Dabney saloon ordinance.
first refusing. however, to reduce the
maximum number of bars to 1io, and
making 1t read exclusive of hotels
The one amendment Incorporated In
the measure provided that go license
should be issued to any place where
a show or performance was conducted
herewith. Alderman Grundys motion
TO strike out the first three sections
was defeated the vote being to 2.
Those who voted for the ordi-
nance as II appears In full In nn-
other column sserct CottreII, Dab
ncy, Elicit, Lea, Spence and Wood
-G.
Against, Cannon, Grundy, Mills,
PoIiock-
Though there was less sdiscusslon
than might ordinarily have been ex-
pected. IT took wide range the vote
being far different from that in the
committee several weeks ago. when the
measure was recommended almost
unanimously, Alderman Grundy and
Councilman Cannon did not think that
consideration of other than the tax
feature came rightly within the prov
\
Good People Want Law.
Alderman Elicit. the original high
license man. strongly urged its adop-
3on. II has eight good features" he
said. and want to tell you that the
good people Of Richmond have come to
me and asked me 10 vote for ii. Judge
Witt Informed me on the car an hour
ago that IL the ordinance was adopted
ne would take care of the residential
sections. and believe he WILL.
There were fewer liquor men present
thansat the last meeting. and a larger
number of ministers and Temperance
workers. When the sections were dis.
cussed seriatim SIR Mills said tha.
; there was no4use 10 econtinue II, that
eIr Daones's friends were in ft,e ma
jority. and the policy OF the majority
was to shove the ordinance through,
lock. stock and barrel.
Mr. Cannon commended that Council
had no legal right 10 regulate the sa-
Icons out of the residential sections
and then fail TO designate such sec
tions. He believed that idea would
he upheld by the courts Mr.
Pollock was opposed to parts OF
the plan. ana announced that
later on he would Introduce an ordi-
nance which would go further in re-
strictinS and regulating the sale OF
(
Wouldn't Change Limit,
Early in the session Mr.. Cannon
moved to amend so that the maxi
mum limit of bars would be 40. ex
elusive of hotels. He did so for the
season that II promoters should de-
sire to erect big hotel they would be
discouraged BY finding the s1s0 limit
full, such a situation deterring them,
IN all probability, from building. Mr..
DabneS opposed this vigorously. He
thought II would open the way for
mushroom hotels, adding that iiouor
men had told him that with the $500
license. with saloons segregated In tho
commercial districts. there might not
be l50 bars in the city. The Cannon
amendment was defeated by a vote Of
to 8, those favoring 1t being Cannon,
Grundy and Pollock.
Not Right Toward Court.
In indorsing the idea as good bus
iness sense, Mr.. Pollock said that Mr..
Dabncy's suggestion that a bona tide
hotel could have the law changed to
give 1t a license was hardly tenable, as
1t would have to be approved by the
two branches OF the Council and the
Mayor
Mr.. Mills objected to the provision
which gave to the judge of the Hust-
lngs Court the right to say who should
Hd's LIE sloV licenses. some OF the
best men in the business hcre.'. he con-
tlnucd. "are in the residential section,
and | am unwilling to vote away an
asset which they have enjoyed without
protest from their neighbors. We ought
not to run roughshod over them. More,
over We should eliminate the saloons
from the factory districts"
New Ordinance by Pollock.
Mr.. Pollock explained his position at
length, The object of ali Legislation
Of this character" he said, "is to reg
ulate and control SO as to minimize the
danger. am of the opinion that the
Dabney ordinance doesSnot help condi.
tIons. but will make them; worse and
then work Slardships on good people.
The high license section Is Its one good
feature. Concentrat ton will e liminate
the saloons against which no complaint
is made. They nre run In conjunction
with grocery stores; they close early;
they have no tionsS for drunkards,
minors'or criminals, and dstheproprietors
+ realize that they must conduct dscent
establishments IL they hope to remain
in business. The idea of eliminating
thc'residential salo ons as "a means OF
remodying tho. liquor evil is AN error.
Concentration Is dangerous, because
competition would be such that tho
Keepers would provide attractions for
young men which would bc seductive
and lalluring. shall send to the Coun-
oil a substitute ordinance which will
be more far reaching than this. and one
which will offer more protection against
the traffic.
Mr., Pollock said he was as earnest
In his desire to leg islate In the Interest
Of the morals of the community as Mr.,
Umlauf or any Chris tian man In Rich
Inond. 81,
s,arhls Council,"Msaid Mr.. Mills, "has
no right to put lesis tive powers on
4 the Judge Of the Iustings Court. II
ought to select the bar-room TERRITORY
without shifting the responsibility" 4
s5 MT. Elicit for Ordinances, g
.ge Mr.. oCannon's2mot tlon to strike out the