Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-02-16

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POSSIBLE under the rules to do other
than consider the two questions togeth-
er, as the conference committee re-
fused to withdraw the report and
amend 1t.
II will vote for an exclusion act to-
morrow which will keep the Japanese
out" he added. II do not see why there
should be prejudice against them yet
| am willing to keep them out If 1t
brings war
Senator Lodge arose at this. IT." he
said, In a low tone, eve are going TO
discuss that question, / think we ought
to do so behind closed doors"
Il am perfectly willing 10 go behind
closed doors" Mr. Tillman responded.
Perhaps l can get n heart-to-heart
talk with some people who Will not stay
here and listen but who have got or
ders from the White House that this
report has got to go through"
Mr.. Rayner asked If a discussion of
the legal phases would not be permit
ted In open session.
There was not the slightest objection
to this consideration, Mr. Lodge an
swered. But" he continued, there
are certain phases which all senator's
will see ought not to be discussed in
public"
PIGEON -ToEING AROUND.
If we have got to pigeon-toe around
not discuss our national issues, we have
got to a desperate pass"
II don't desire 10 go into secret ses-
sion on any other phases of the bill,
as the senator well knows" said Mr..
Lodge.
,,Isrt Tho tu,o ora ipx,nI,y.J ineic,aJ
Mr.. Tillman. III the man at the White
House had not taken 1t upon himself 10
NEEDLE with everything in the United
States we would not have this issue
here
Stating his opinion against contract
labor to be as strong as any one, Mr..
Tillman said he would give the proper
encouragement to desirable immigrants
to the south, and he believed the gov
eminent would do well to spend one
hundred million dollars for that pur-
pose. The south was to be discrimin-
ated against, he maintained, because
the senator from massachusetts had
large number of highly respectable con-
stituents who We're opposed to the
southern states getting immigrants un-
less they got them from the slums OF
the northern cities The south did not
want this sort OF scum and riff-raff"
Mr.. Lodge was questioned closely to
ascertain Just wnat he construed to
be the effect OF the bill
Does it mean that a state agent
cannot go abroad and secure immlgra-
tionP" asked Mr.. Tillman.
1T means he cannot use other than
state funds for that purpose" an
swered Mr.. Lodge,
Suppose the state should pay the
passage OF an immigrant and then some
one should come along and reimburse
he OF 10 Nr AZ
added; There are more ways than on,
10 beat the devil around the stump. and
the senator from Massachusetts knows
just as well as anybody else how TO do
It,"
That might be one way" answered
Mr.. Lodge, who added that he did not
think II ought TO be done
Mr.. Tillman. discussing the Japanese
proposition. maintained that In plac-
Ing the proposition In the report the
conferees had exceeded their authority.
He had been Informed that the con-
ferees themselves had not drawn the
Japanese amendment, but II was the
work of Secy. Root. OF course, he add
ed, the conferees could deny II II was
not correct. This, however went TO
show that II was a matter entirely out
side the scope OF the conference COM
mittec.
Mr. Tillman said he realized the only
way the conference report could be de-
feated, under the discipline that pre-
vailed. would be to defeat II by arBu-
ment He was not prepared 10 adopt
such extreme measures, even II the
south was Disseminated against.
CULBERSON INTERRUPTS.
Senator Culberson Interrupted Mr..
Tillman 70 present the Following rcsolu-
tlon;
Resolved. That the conferees on the
part OF the senate ION the immigration
bilO are instructed to present TO the
cOnferees an amendment providing for
the exclusion of Japanese laborers and
coolies from the United States and their
territories and insular possessions and
the District of Columbia, TO be effected
Jan. t. 1908"
Mr.. Lodge made the point that de-
bate WAS In order on the resolution.
Mr. Culberson said he did not wish TO
take senator Tillman from tho floor
by demanding immediate considera-
ton
Mr.. Tlllman had read the debate re-
latlng 10 new matter" In the confer
ence report on the rate bill at the last
session. He did this. he said, that 1t
might be apparent that senators
changed their positions from session
do any old thing"
Il want to know why It is" con-
tinued Mr. Tillman. that the presi-
dent OF the United states should be
permitted, n this bill becomes law,
and know It viii. 10 dieker with
labor unions. To make bargains with
labor unions1 Why should the IN
terests OF labor ON the Pacific coast
make II possible for the president
10 issue an executive order TO prohibit
the landing OF a certain class ~ Inn
migrants We ought to have q law
to regulate such thing. 1t ought