Los Angeles herald., 1907-02-06
AlieniSt Says He Is
Sure Madness Was
Behind Act
Jerome Makes Desperate
Fight to Shatter
Testimony
BY Associated Press.

BY Associated Press.
NEW YORK, Feb. 5.-Scarce-
ly had court adjourned when
there was conference of the de-
fendant's counsel, and it became
known that Dolphin M. Delmas,
on leaving the court room had
declared fatty that he was dis
satisfied with the days proceed
ings and intimated that he was
surprised that the conduct of the
defense for the day had been en-
trusted to John B. Gleason rather
than to himself.
DR.. Charles c. Wiley, the
Pittsburg physician who testi-
fed for the defense and was so
sharply cross examined by Dis
trict Attorney Jerome, should not
have been put on the stand to-
day, Mr.. Delmas said, and per-
haps should not have been put
on the stand at all.
Il expected to go on and con-
duct the case today" Mr.. Delmas
added. "I was surprised that
Mr.. Gleason should have done
it."
BY Associated Press.
NEW YORK, Feb. 5.-The task of
proving to jury that Harry K. Thaw
was insane through heredity and men
tai stress when he shot and killed Stan
ford White was taken up today by the
defense in this famous case, but when
adjournment was announced later in
the afternoon it was the general opinion
in the court room that but little prog
ress had been made.
Thaw's attorneys endeavored in vain
TO place before the jury evidence tend
ing. it was said, to prove alteration in
the collateral branch of the defendants
family, but they were blocked at every
point by District Attorney Jerome,
whose objections were upheld by the
rulings of Justice Fitzgerald.
The defense did, however, get before
the twelve men in the box the testimony
of an expert that in his opinion Harry
Thaw was suffering from insanity the
night of the tragedy. Mr.. Jerome at
tempted to break down the evidence of
the alienist, DR.. c. C. Wiley of Pitts
burg, and for three hours put him
through a cross-examination as severe
as was ever heard in a New York
court. The prosecutor was relentless
in his attack and before he had finished
DR.. Wiley protestingly declared:
II did not come here as an expert. 1
came here as witness to a fact, and
have been converted into an expert
without being prepared for it,"
Jerome's knowledge Astonishes
The district attorney astonished
every one by his intimate knowledge of
medicine and it's technical phraseology,
demonstrating the care with which he
had prepared himself to meet the very
defense which ThaW'S counsel have en-
tered in his behalf.
Mr.. Jerome searchingly inquired into
DR.. Wiley's record as a physician and
as an expert on insanity. He hurled
volleys of technical questions at the wit
ness, who at times sat mute and at
other times declared he could not an
swer or gave evasive replies. Often he
brought himself sharp warning from
the district attorney to make a reply
and not an argument.
DIR. Wiley said he predicated his
opinion as to Thaw's insanity upon his
actions the night of the tragedy, as
described to him in hypothetical ques.
tion propounded by the defense and on
an incident which he witnessed in
Pittsburg street car during the sum
mer of 1906
The doctor said that Thaw acted ir-
nationally on the car, coming in sud
denly and Jerking up one of the window
blinds, slamming it down and then
lifting 1t again, the while engaging in
wordy war with the conductor.
The district attorney drew from the
alienist the opinion that Thaw's acts
on the Madison Square roof garden
when he killed Stanford White were
not acts of insanity when taken singly,
but constituted evidences of insanity
when considered collectively.
Questions Dlsconcert Doctor
At times DIR. Wiley seemed entirely
baffled by the questions. He hesitated
at each and before he could answer
Mr.. Jerome had framed another query
replete with impressive sounding tech
nical terms, and apparently offering a
problem no less difficult than it's pre-
decessor.
The witness admitted that many of
the tests to which the district attorney
referred, such as the Romberg test and
the Argyll Robertson pupil test, were
unknown to him, and when he was
asked to quote from any accepted work
on insanity. declared he could not give
the exact language from any book.
Mr.. Jeromes we'll of knowledge, how
ever, seemed never to run dry. He
carried his cross examination through
practically the entire morning session
and for an hour and twenty minutes
after luncheon continued to ply the
witness with all manner of questions.
At the close of the cross examination
of DR.. Wiley an attempt was made to
introduce testimony tending to show
that strain OF insanity has existed
In certain branches OF the Thaw family.
Among the witnesses called We're AL
bert Lee Thaw of Richmond, Va, who
said that his father and Harry Thaw's
father were first cousins. The defense
stated it's purpose to draw from the