The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1907-04-15

whole thing, MS 1t wouldn't do any
good making q fuss about it, Tho
idea that amy OF the jurors wVro ap-
tproncbcd is too ridiculous to think of
1We were closely guarded, in the first
place, and besides that there was not
|, II man on the jury who would allow
himself to be influenced in any
way"
Juror Oscar A. Pink said lie did not
want to stir UP any moro bad feeling
by discussing tho bribery charge.
II did not hear the word bribery
used" he said. "1n fact. / paid little
attention to it. J. was in favor OF
acquittal from the first. and Il let the
Jurors know my reasons why. j am
friendly toward Pfaff as we'll as the
other jurors. My idea is that Thaw
was insane when he shot White. No
amount of argument could change that
opinion, and 1 told the jurors So"
Juror Pfaff smiled when asked to
explain his remarks.
Whats tho use Of talking about
it now" he asked. "The trinl Is over
and don't want to say anything"
the dinner or jurors next Saturday
night at the Broadway Central Hotel.
He said he did not know. j t is said
that all of the Jurors will be there,
with the possible exception Of Pfaff.
Steele did not promise to attend when
tnc QinnSf was ulscusscu Oh y iluuS,
bat last night no declared that he
would probably join the others.
Policeman Talked to Pfaff.
There was some talk yesterday Of
several Of the jurors having been APP
preached by q policeman while on
their way to the Broadway Central
Hotel last Thursday. 1t was said that
the officer, who sympathizcd deeply
with Thaw, whispered to the jurors
that Thaw's father was member Of
the same secret order that these par
ticular jurors belonged to- All the
jurors yesterday, excepting Denee. de-
rcd that they knew anything of the
incident. Denee gave this cxplana-
ton of it:
George Pfaff, who is a Mystic Shrin-
or, came to mo about three weeks ago.
before the insanity commission was
appointed. I am Mystic Shrncr
myself. He told ME that on several
back from breakfast one of the police
men on duty in the lower corridor Of
the courthouse had approached New
ton. juror No. S, another Shriner, and
told him that Harry Thnw's father
was Mystic >Srner also. EIc asked
me what I thought of it. told him
that ! thought It should not go on
knew that it was only Of passing
interest, and TINT no man, certainly
not Newton, would regard his Masonic
vows as forcing him to change his
opinion In the murder triai. Pfafr
came to me once again and told me the
same thing, and we discussed the ad-
Visibility of reporting the matter to
District Attorney Jerome. But we never
Gid it. ] do not know who the off,
Ger was Or what his number was.
AS 10 the hint Of bribery, of course
It was suggested in the jury-room and
talked of there very plainly. 1 do not
believe that any one was bought d.
ibribed, or in any way unduly inA,,-
cnccd. I do not think any one tam
percd with the iury-not a soul. IF
tho policeman did, 1t was probably an
his own hook.
Lots OF Animosity."
There have been lot of unkind
things said about me- and want to set
them right. What might be termed the
convictionists thought 1t odd that Steele
ana barney would not explain their
position. There was lots of animosity at
all times. 1t commenced the first night
and progressed constantly.
Nobody tried to sleep, the air was
so bad With the bad pipes that Pink and
fraser smokcd-no one but George Pfaff.
lie had made UP his mind to murder in
the first degree, and he didn't intend to
change II. So he rolled UP on table
ana Went to sleep apparently, for fifty
minutes. There was much loud talking
among us. In the midst OF 1t Pfafr rolled
off the table, where he had been. and
only make believe sleep, and rushed ",
to Steele and shook his fist In Ills face
and said: II know there are some mem
bers OF the jury who are not above sus-
picion. ! think there has been some
thing doing. Somebody's fixed Z"
Steele became uncomfortable, and drew
his arm back to strike Pfarf in the face,
but we all rushed In and stopped them.
There We're other scraps. Bolton and
Harvey had one of their own, a private
one apparently. because Harvey wouldn't
explain why he felt as he did for acquittal
| Bolton said that IIarney's statement
about him should be characterized by a
stronger word than falsehood Then
Gerstman and Newton had brush:
what about / don't know"
Brearly Wasn't Approached"
! Juror Henry G. Brearly said he knew
| nothing of tic efforts of the policeman
| TO influence the jury.
"pf course, the line of jurymen was
q long one" he said "and it was made
| longer by the presence of several OIL :
GERS of the court. AS to the hint O {
bribery, ! simply cannot conceive OF
anything of that kind being true OF q
single one OF tho jury. I don't believe
lhero Is sclntilla OF truth In 1t. I
was certainly not approached In any
way and ! doubt II any ono else was
or course, there were some crank lot.