The sun., 1907-08-21
new SOCIALISTIC SQUABBLE
ENGLISH DELEGATES At ODDS
WITH TRADES UNIONTSTS.
Day of Speechmakink Makes Much Bad
blood French Leaders Throw Herse
Overheard To Placatc Herr Bebei-
Interna atiOuaIism Doesn't kili Patriotism

.SpectaI Cable DespGtoh TO The SUN.
STUTTGART. Aug. 20.-Much OF the time
OF the Socialist Congress to-day was taken
up by squabblng among the British dele
gates. The crux is the trades unlonists
and other laborites who. while willing TO
cooperate with the Socialists. refuse to
pledge themselves TO Socialism
The Social Democrats are not satisfied
with this They say that unless the labor
ties adopt Socialism they are not entitled
to representation in the present congress-.
They particularly oppose the official attl-
tude OF the trades unions, which they say
threaten to swamp Socialism.
Long speeches. which were often up
roariously interrupted. occupied hours and
bred plenty OF bad blood. Eventually
President Van der Velde Of the Inter
national Bureau. made conciiatory
speech, which, while II favored the admis-
sion Of the trades unioEists on equal terms
placated the Socialists. and the wrangle
was temporarily ended
IL was expected that Herr Bebel would
reply TO NJ Herve's TRADE Of yesterday.
but he seemed satisfied with the condem-
nation that the frebrands utterances
brought him from the delegates and with
the palliative statements made by NJ Vail
LIANT and NJ Jaures. Neither OF these
roundly attacked their compatriot. but
both said enough to show that NJ. Herve
went beyond anything avowed by the
French Socialist party. NJ. Valiant re-
ferred TO VI. Herve's nonsense and VI.
Jaures assured the congress that the French
Socialists themselves we're accustomed
TO being treated by NJ. Herve as the latter
treated Herr Bebel
NJ. Herve's agitation. VI. Jaures said.
was i'm it's death throes. II was remnant
Of anarchstic brutality recalling the days
when the proletariat igDorantly smashed
machinery nation. he declared. was "A
treasury Of human genius and progress,
and the proletariat must moi break this
precious treasury Of human culture. but
Socialism must be organized against war.
Capitalism which was a source OF war.
must be attacked. as must he clericalism'
which used the brains Of the proletariat for
capitalists In combating war they could
al times Of international crisis insist upon
arbitration. and thereby bring any warllke
government into serious embarrassment.
Herr Volmar a veteran OF the German
Social Democracy. who is well known ex-
officer of aristocratic birth. delivered a
stirring speech, which struck a note almost
Bismarckian in it's patriotism. The en-
thusiastic applause with which IT was
pnctuated wiped out the unpleasant effect
OF Herve's diatribe.
National bashfulness.' said Herr Noll-
mar, never played a large role in the Ger
man social democracy. Militarism and
war will ever find decisive opponents in us.
We are ready to continue to strike, but
we will not let the sense Of battle be dis
torted IL in untrue that internationdiism
is anti-nationalism. IL is untrue that we
have no fatherland. Love OF humanity
cannot hinder us for a moment from being
good Germans.
Although we vigorously combat the
eggng on of people against each other. il is
undesirable that nations should cease and so
form an undistinguishable pot pourri OF
peoples To some. indeed. the fighting of
militarism by the education OF the masses
NAV seem too slow. but from any speedier
solution only anarchistical recipes evolve.
which must be condemned on principle.
The idea Of abolishing war by a general
strike is az foolish as the idea Of destroying
capitalism over night.
I'VE are ready to do everything to restrain
the violation Of nations and to win influence
over governments and public opinion to
prevent warlike collisions, but we cannot
bind ourselves"