New-York tribune., 1907-08-02

n The rrobIen,s are very different? A-Yea ]
Q-The problems in the L and subway roads
are verv similar Avery similar.
O-The problem of the operation of the surface
road Is very dfssimar2 A-feS
O-Then why do you conceive that the three sys-
TENS can be merged into single harmonic and
adroinIstratfve whole? A.-Because every depart
nnent can produce economy and, l think. more eff
cent results if operated together rather than as
different organization
After further examination. Mr.. ShOnts replied
IN :. question about construction Of rolling stock
that the company had two hundred cars under
construction for the L.. fifty for the subway
and 155 for surface lines Inc examination
O-Do Won expect 10 utilize these cars in addition
to those you have now running? Ave expect to
use them in addition to those we have now
Q-What type of car are you havirg built for the
elevated? A.-Similar to our present cars
O-Wbat type for the subway? A--Steel cars
And the surface lines cars that are much larger
than the present-about ~ feet in length
Mr. Shonts said that in July, 1907. he had
1s47 cars in operation on the surface roads and
791 in the subway
Mr. Wilcox asked if the company operated
enough ears to take care Of its traffic
Il rather doubt it," said Mr. Shonts- The con-
a,estion is so great. Now often see car pass
ire loaded TO the guards: then another will fol-
low almost empty If we were enabled to move
the cars at proper intervals without serious
interruption from vehicle traffic We would now
have an ample number OF cars
Mr. ShOntS said he tnOuSRJ W'DHtH cars vera
practically safe for in the subway. though
steel ones were safer. Along this line the tes-
timony was;
o-Are you keeping in mind that your equip
r1ent will be taken over by the cry eVentuanyf
A.-Thats long time off
O-And you will have a long time to make
money in7 Al hope 80 (sniling)-
MIR. WINS took up the question Of adopting
another styIa of car for the subway He asked
about the practicabflity of using cars such as
arc used in the Boston subways and applying
the Illinois system.
- Uro,,Is a ioor instead Of a terrnfr at tha
north end Of the subway facilitate the expedition
OF trains2 A--Our people figure no
n -rIava Won made a study Of this problem? A.
Mr. Counsel the trouble is not at the end II 10
In passing trains over the road If we could make
this schedule of thirty trains over the express
tracks we would he doing all. IN our Judgment
that could be safely done through the tunnel Ths
only other relief is in correcting the station at
a6th street which urged on the previous CON-
,,,Issio,ars ~ that was done could add our
local service 33 Ia per cent more trains We
prepared plans for this work. and they were pre-
sented to the Board Estimate and Apportioa-
n1ent which adjourned. however. without taking
action them
o-Where are you storing your cars At
the north end the third track
o-Does not this injure the service you
furnish? Ave ought 10 have and Rave spent
more than million dollars for terminals az zlsth
street
o-whv haven't you built theu2 Ave have
not got the Of the city 20 close te Streets
although We have made repeated efforts
Q-Can the service on the elevated roads be m
creased? Ave have absolutely no extra equip
rent for those roads to-day but there IS capacity
for increased service the Second avenue and
ON the Sixth avenue also the Ninth avenue
The Third avenue is practically al IT'S utmost
capacity
Q-Assurninz that you had The necessary equip
r1ent is II fact that you can Increase the
service at least % per cent on the Second ave1ue
line? Al have the estimates on that and, with
your consent will refer 10 them
Mr.. Shonts then read the Increases that. ac-
cording to him. could be made
Commissioner willcox-Is the full equipment ot
the road being used now-the whole extent OF th5
equipment? Ave estimate that the Third ave-
nue. line is Up its capacity
Mr. WilIcox-I mean with tire present caPacity'
A-Yes and we have borrowed ffty cars rom ne
subway.
o-How do you spare them from the srhwaye
this is pretty close margin 90 per cent?, We had
the fftv cars, and they borrowed them
Commissioner Wilcox asked II the conPara-
tive schedules on the surface roads would he
ready ny to-day
Il am giving them careful study, said NJ
Twins Il find their study is somewhat dl1l-
cult but l hope TO bring in the results or those'
and 10 have them so that when we have dons
with Nr Shon-s take up the schedule5
with Mr. Hedley. Mr.. Bryan. Mr. Root and MI
VreeanG, who. I understand from Mr. Snonls'
are more familiar with them"
Commissioner Wilcox then said that the next
heal would be held this afternoon az = CLOCK
and adjournment was then taken