The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1907-03-12

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Salt Lake county. and Cedar City in Iron
county. All rights. inmunities, IRAN
chlses and enfiOn'fneufs heretofore grant
ed or conferred unto the Agricultural col
iege and TO the University of Utah ere
hereby confirmed and perpetuated unto
tne University of Utah and its several
| schools and colleges
In the Way of Ammunition.
Both sides had a bountiful supply Of
powaer and bali The advocates Of con-
soiidatlon placed their chief reliance on
We 1act that a. merging of the institu-
ions would effect a great saving in the
COST OF maintenance and administration.
tllit the money thus saved would become
Afaiiable for high school PURPOSES in the
various counties; that the Agricultural
coIege Is little more than high scasOl
ana a failure as a distinctive agricultural
college; that duplication of the courses
aha equipment. is rUiDoUsly expensive;
that tn" experience Of other states has
been such as to prove the superiority and
effectiveness of consolidated Institutions
as compared with segregated schools;
that the people are the ones to decide the
question finally and that If they are not
gwen the opportunity at the next general
eiection they will be at future time not
Tar distant: that the establishment of
nigh schools within the counties would
provide boys and girls with opportunities
TOT acquiring an education now only to
De had by going away from home. a
shame and disgrace upon both the par
ents and the children. some of whom are
prone TO become wayward when removed
home.
Arguments in Opposition.
The opponents of the LII contended
that the Agricultural college was a grand
institution and fulfilled every require
ment: that it was splendidly equipped for
she work for which ii IS maintained;
that; as the state grows in wealth. the
burden of maintaining the school will
become less and less: that consolidation
Is tantamOunt TO the destruction
OF The Agricultural college. which
Would soon become nothing more
IMAM high school. that the uni
vers.ty would so overshadow the
Agricultural college as to completely OBJ
scure the latter; that were the state to
torsake the Agricultural college at Lo-
gan; the property to which the state now
hoids title and valued at nearly half
million dollars. would revert back to the
conors, the city of Logan: that the
scheme to consolidate was the result of
activity more or less pernicious in char
acter of those directly interested profess
sors and others; that there was grave
danger OF the consolidation amendment
carrying without the high school pro-
VISION in which event those counties hay
ing no high schools would be as badly
or as they are now, yet having consoi-
Many other points were raised during
the course of the prolonged debate and
many eXtrane0us matters were injected
INTO the discussion, but for the most part
the talk was confined 10 the ouestio.,
for the members realized thar they had
a lot 70 do, and that every word was a
cllncher-at any rate in their opinion it
Mr.. Joseph and His Rules.
The marvellous elasticity of Speaker Jo-
seph rules was again proved yesterday.
ID II Hos
contraction have an India rubber band
backed off the board Those wonderful
rules were changed no less than four
times Sometimes they were changed with
tne consent of the house and sometimes
without 1t; 1t all depended on the view
OF the chair. All of the members except
two had half an hour in which to talk.
lheSe Two We're kuchler and Thompson.
the latter well known to be one of those
IlSted Tor speech of first importance.
The unfortunate Mr.. Kuchler took the
floor just at the time when Mr.. Josepil's
IuleS save loud snap and flew back
TO the three-minute limit. Mr. Thomp-
son was almost caught in the rebound
also, but friends came to his rescue and
he got fifteen minutes additional time.
a. tln'.s courtesy was at a premium
and some of the remarks bordered dam
gerously close 10 insults. but everyone
seemed TO take these little Incidents as
matter of course and after il was ali
over they smoked the pipe of peace.
When the Trouble Began.
When the clerk read the bill. Mr.. Mills
OF salt Lake opened the debate for the
sGVocates OF the measure. He said that
thousands of dollars were squandered
each year and necessarily hundreds of
thousands of dollars more will he souan-
ue1ed IN the future If the two institu-
lions are not Joined. Mr.. Mills read a
nst OF studies that. he said. were dupli-
Gated in both schools The list was a
long one. The only thing that Is taught
in the Agricultural college that Is not
taught in the University is agriculture
ana tne only courses in the University
that are not in the college years are peda-
gogy and mining and metallurgy.
Time was called on Mr. Mills under
the three-minute rule at this point. Mr..
4 thompson moved that Mr.. Mills have
twenty minutes additional Mr.. Robinso;l
moved 10 amend that any and all mem
bers have twenty minutes Then M
Mills took a fresh start and declared
nat IN the Agricultural college high sal
AIRED professors were doing ordinary high
school work and often had classes Of
from one TO eight students The AVER
age cost per student in the Agricultursl
c &c WAS sl;lo, said Mr., Mills. while !
culture could be taught in the I-niver- |
sity, and the money saved would turn |
cut annually forty or fifty teachers oF 1
normal training fitted to teach. During /
the eighteen years of it's existence the |
Agricultural college has never been self |
sustaining. he said Two years ago The |
legislature was asked for an appropri-
atlon OF szSz.oo Tor the use OF the col |
ege. Representations had been made |
that the institution could not get aioav /
with less This year said Mr.. Mills
as the result of the talk and agitation |
that has been going on, only sl53O1l has
been asked for If talk alone can n,
hat, said Mr.. Mills, Il am for keeping /
t up." e
In Other States.
Mr.. Mills read statistics relative to tho
operation of the consolidated and sonar
lite methods in other states HiS arp,,-
nent tended to prove that the states that |
laVe joint institutions had by far more /
agricultural students ana by far more af.
ective colleges.
Mr.. Mills time was up again. but an
'ther motion was made to give him ten
minutes more Robinson insisted that II /
Mills had ten minutes every other mem
Ter should have a total of thirty minutes