The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1907-02-22

AT different times during 1901 and
1902, you were at parties in the studios
women 20
Yes"
did you ever see any improprieties
at any of these parties?"
WHAT"
well. they told a lot of stories
! did Stanford White tell any of the
stories?"
Yes and others
Were they obscene?"
Were there any other women
there?"
Did they tell stories?"
zone had too much wine and told
some.'
Jerome wanted the name and Mrs.
Thaw whispered it to him.
"Ahi" he exclaimed, "she was the
same woman to whom two years later
you were writing letters from Paris
telling her about the Dead Rat 8"
Yes
How long did you know herr"
Until just before my marriage"
Then your friendship broke up?"
II wouldn't call it friendship"
You corresponded didn't you with
this lewd person ~
IT didn't say Iewd person. I said
the stories were bad"
yes"
will you produce them?"
yes"
At this point a 10 minute recess was
taken to air the court room:
room at the noon recess she collapsed
completely. She was placed on a
couch in the witness room by her
friend, May Mckenzie, who revived her
by the use of smelling salts.
After the recess Mrs. Thaw told OF
going to various lunches and supper at
the Twenty fourth street house and to
the Madison Square Tower room. She
often went alone in a carriage, trusting
to Whites promise that there would be
others present. She did not go often
White having largely abandoned that
place because he told her that actresses
who had been there told about it "all
over town.
luncheons and suppers?" asked Mr..
Jerome.
IT don't know anything very bad.
There were some stories told"
Looking back a little now, do you
remember any improprieties?''
Looking. back a little now. none of
1t seems pleasant"
WAS there conduct worse than Miss
Winchester's cakewalk in the Dead
Rat?"
Il never saw Miss Winchester do a
cake walk in the Dead Rat. You are
mistaken about that"
WAS it in the Cafe Paris?''
"Yes-she was professional dancer"
WAS the dance indecent?''
IT would not make such broad
statement as that 1 don't think it
would have been allowed on the stage
WAS Stanford White present at all
the parties you attended in 1902 and
1s03?''
mot all of them
Mrs. Thaw told of going to a supper |
as the guest of Frances Belmont.
"She was an actress?" asked Mr..
Jerome.
well. she was on the stage" re-
dora Mrs. Thaw said that on her
7S1n was to- give s1pper for her at
the Tower room. White went to the
Madison Square theater where she was
playing the night before but she quar-
relied with him and he went away
Later he returned but she had not yet
decided to go with him. He went away
again, and later Thaw came to the
stage door for her.
He was in an automobtle?" asked
Mr.. Jerome.
Il think it was a carriage"
Are you sure?"
mo, but think So
WAS there any one else in there?'
Eyes, one man and one woman"
A man named Boman, doorkeeper at
the theater. who testified early in the
theater later and fiourished a revolver
threatening to kill Thaw, and also said
Thaw arrived in an electric automobile
and was alone.
was there a man named Kennedy
standing outside the stage door that
night with another MANI" asked Mr..
Jerome.
Hadn't Thaw told you he had en-
ployed two detectives because of
Winter"
No
You went to Rectors from the the
alter that night2''
yes"
And left there about a. .?''
II don't know what time 1t was"
Had there been much wine drunk"
Yes"
AT that time it was your custom toll
drink considerable wine with your
yes, at that time in 1903"
did Thaw sometimes drink a good
deal?"
yes"
was he easily affected by wine?''
mot particularly"
AFTER leaving Rectors did not you
go to a house in West Twenty-seventh |
street?"
mo"
when you came out of the Twenty
seventh street house didn't you see
Kennedy and the other man standing
outside ?"
"I have already told you we did not
90 to any Twenty-seventh street house,
so how could I see anybody coming |
out?"
'WelI, were you in such condition |
that your memory was cloudy"
mo"
Were you intoxicated?"
mo"
Did you have to be assisted out of |
Rectors
mo, sir
where did you go after leaving |
Rectors
ITO an apartment house somewhere |
Off Central park west"
''Where were you living then?''
"At the Audubon"
Were then receiving money from |