The San Francisco call., 1907-02-20

room.
'workmen upon the outside of the
building" says the letter, have fire.
quently heard the screams of young
gifls from this building"
The letter continued that the place
was frequently visited by young men
who did not know it's character.
The letter called attention to another
house, 122 East Twenty y-second street,
saying that it was being used secretly
by three or four of the same scoun-
drels" for disgustingly immoral pur-
poses, its equipment being highly sug-
gestive of it's uses.
Delmas asked Mrs Thaw If she had
told her husband of certain infamous
practices on the part of Stanford White.
YES"
Can you describe them?'
Mrs. Thaw, flushed. ''Oh, no; they
are unspeakable."
Now you may take the witness" I"
said Delmas to the District Attorney.
Jerome arose.
Il will ask permission to reserve my
cross-examination of this witness until
ination is needful upon the issues raised
in this case"
I'VE will assent to that" said Del
mas, and Mrs. Thaw> left the stand.
Call Mrs. J.. ]. Caine." commanded
Delmas.
Mrs. Caine is a petite young woman,
with an abundance of brown hair worn
pompadour. She was smartly attired in a
dark brown suit and wore a toque of
brown fur. Mrs. Caine had known Mrs.
Evelyn Thaw and her mother for six
years and Thaw for three years. Del
mas asked:
We're you in New York in 1908 and present
Mr.. Thaw and Mrs Holman in which Mr.. Thaw
made proposal of marriage?
State what that conversation was.
/ was In the when Mr.. Thaw called.
he told Mrs. Holman that he wanted to marry
Evelyn.
What happened after Mr. Thaw made this
proposals
left the room.
Did you accompany Mr.. and Mrs; Thaw to a
theater late in 1903 or early in 1904?
Yes
Did Stanford White come ins
Yes he came in and occupied box opposite
What effect did this have upon Mr. Thaw?
He looked at the box, his face turned white
and his eyes popped in wide stare.
How long did he look that way?
Until Miss Nesbit told him that If he did
not stop she would take him from the theater.
NAMED
You may have the witness, Mr.
Jerome" said Delmas.
On cross examination Jerome asked
Mrs. Caine several questions regarding
the visit to the theater with Thaw, and
asked:
When next did you Mr.. Thawl
In Mrs. Nesbits apartments.
Were you in the room
No. l was IN the h room adjoining but the
door was ajar, and | could see and hear
plainly.
How did you happen TO be in the bathroom?
When Mr. Thaw telephoned up to the room
Mrs Nesbit asked me to go into the bathroom
SO / could hear what said.
Did she tell you anything about Thaw?
Not then.
Did Mrs. Nesbit give any reason for asking
She said she wanted me to hear what Mr..
What am trying to get at is why she made
this request that you act as an eavesdropper.
Il object and desire to note an excep-
ton on the ground of misconduct of
the District Attorney"
Well" said Jerome. 'it is unusual
ly-"
Il protest and note another exception
on the same ground" broke in Delmas.
We'll, all right, I'll go at it another
way Mrs. Caine, did you not consider
it an unusual performance"
did not consider 1t at all.
All that happened some time before Mrs.
Nesbit told you that Thsw was interested in
Evelyn. and when be telephoned up all she
and listen?
Yes.
What did Thaw say hrst7
/ don't remember
Well. what do you remember of the con-
yersationT
INDUCING EVELYN TO MARRY
: He told Miss Nesbit about his desire to send
Evelyn TO Europe and said If she would marry
Mr.. Holman to keep them forever. Mrs. Nesbit
said she would try and fix it so Evelyn would
accept him.
How long were you in the bathroom?
Only few minutes. Mr.. Thsw did not stay
When you came out what did Mrs Nesbit say
She said: Il know. you see, HIS intentions are
honorable
his intentions were or were not honorablei
What next did Mrs. Nesbit say?
She said she wanted me TO help her to in.
duce Evelyn to take Mr. Thaw as a husband
Jerome pursued his questioning al
great length. He endeavored to bring
out the fact from the witness that
upon the second trip Harry Thaw and
Evelyn Nesbit made to Europe, Eve
lyn's mother did not accompany them
Delmas objected to this line of cross
examination, but Justice Fitzgerald up
held the District Attorney, who de-
clared he was not indirectly attacking
the credibi1ity of Mrs. Thaw.
Delmas noted many exceptions, de-
claring the movements of young Mrs.
Thaw's mother could not constitute
evidence against the defendant.
Did Mrs. Evelyn Thaw tell you that
her mother was not upon the second
trip to Europe?" finally asked Jerome.
No
Did you see Mrs Thaw's mother in this coun-
try while her daughter in Europe in 1904
Yes. Once in New York.
Did you discuss Miss Nesbit's whereabouts?
We did not.
When did you next see Miss Nesbit or Thaw
After they returned from Europe.
Where did Mrs. Hesbit then live?
In Ninety-frst street most of the time; part
of the time at the Gregorian in Thirty seventh
street The house I'm Ninety first street was a
private house. Besides the Nesbits and Mr..
Thaw ] one there but the maid.