Los Angeles herald., 1907-03-16
.HUMMEL IS
SHOWN UP
BY DELMAS
Formers Acts Are
Brought Out by
Questions
Thaw Case Promises Now
to Be Prolonged
for Weeks
States Experts Not Examined by the
Defense, but Others May Be
Called by Latter's
Counsel
BY Associated Press.

BY Associated Press.
NEW YORK. March 15.-with At
torney Delmas fighting him every inch
of the way District Attorney Jerome
today secured from Abraham Hummel
his complete story as to the affidavit
which it is alleged Evelyn Nesbit Thaw
made in the lawyers office in 1903
charging Harry X. Thaw with beating
her when she had told him that the
statement that Stanford White had
drugged and ruined her was not true.
Mr.. Delmas first objected broadly to
all of Hummeps testimony, and later
offered a specific objection to each
question put by the prosecutor.
Justice Fitzgerald overruled every OBJ
lection and Delmas made exceptions.
Evelyn Thaw was called to the stand
in the effort of the defense to keep
Hummel silent. She declared that she
had called upon Hummel in his pro-
fessional capacity and to seek his ad,
vice, as lawyer. Stanford White had
taken her to the lawyers Office with
| that end in view.
Justice Fitzgerald declared that ad-
mitting the proposition of counsel and
client Mrs. Thaw herself had waived
the professional privilege by taking
the stand early in the case and giving
her version Of what had transpired at
| Hummels office. The bond Of secrecy
| once removed could not be re-estab-
| lished.
HummeI on the GriddIe
Unsuccessful in blocking Hummeps
| testimony, Attorney DelmaS on cross
examining the witness brought from his
own lips the fact that he had been
convicted in December, 1905, on a
charge of conspiracy in the same court
room in which Tkaw is being tried.
He further admitted that two indict-
ments for subornation of perjury are
pending against him, and that one of
these indictments charges him with
having caused false affidavit to be
made.
Mr.. Jerome protested against the wit
ness being dragged through the 'hu-
initiating details" of his trial, but JUS
tice Fitzgerald declined to interfere.
Then Delmas asked Hummel If he
had not heard the speech made by
District Attorney Jerome when SEN
tence was about to be imposed, when
Mr.. Jerome urged the court to pass the
longest and heaviest sentence within
| it's power upon Hummel, as "he had
been menace to the community for
| twenty years."
Justice Fitzgerald finally sustained an
objection to this and Hummel was not
compelled to answer.
Mr.. DelmaS wanted to know if Hum
mel had any more recent business
transactions with the district attorney,
and asked if Mr.. Jerome was pressing
the charges against him.
HE certainly is" said the witness
with spirit.
Says Thaw Beat Her
Hummeps testimony in brief was to
the effect that Evelyn Nesbit told him
among other things that Thaw had
beaten her when she refused to sign
papers he had prepared charging STAN
ford White with her betrayal; that he
had dictated a statement to stem
ographer in the presence of Miss Nesbit
and Stanford White; that he gave the
affidavit to two of his clerks to take TO
Miss Nesbit in the Madison Square
garden tower and that the next day the
paper was returned to him with Evelyn
Nesbit's signature attached.
He kept the affidavit until Miss Nes-
bit called one day and demanded it.
He refused to give it to her and turned
it over to Stanford White, advising him
to have Photographic copy made.
Hummel first said he himself ar
ranged for photographing the affidavit
and that the photographer came to his
office. A few moments later, however.
he completely contradicted himself on
this point, saying he did not make the
arrangements, that the photographer
did not come to his office, and that he
had not so testified.
After Stamford White had the copy
made he returned the original of the
affidavit, the Photographic negatives
and the prints made from the negatives
to Hummel, who swore today that he
subsequently delivered the original
affidavit to Miss Nesbit and has not
seen 1t since.
Abraham Sneidecker. one Of Ham
mel's clerks, was called and said he
took the affidavit to Mr.. Whites rooms
In the tower and handed 1t to the
woman pointed out to him as Miss Mes.
bit. She kept the affidavit for Ave
minutes and signed, saying she had
read 1t through.
Adjournment Taken
At the conclusion of this testimony
District Attorney Jerome asked per-
mission to introduce the carbon and
Photographic copy OF the affidavit in
evidence. 1t was near the closing hour
and Mr.. Delmas asked that an ad-
journment be taken before arguing as
to the admissibility OF the aftidavlt. He
said that after reading the paper over
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