Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1907-01-10
DRASTIC STEPS TO
MAKE MAGNATES
TELL OF POOLS
Writs of Exeat to Be Issued
Against Hartman, Prick +
and Rogers. s.
NO CHARGE TO LEAVE
Interstate Commerce Commission Will
Force Them to Remain Within
Jurisdiction.
QUESTIONS OF COMPETITIONS
Traffic Manager Hiland Testifies Thar
If All Railroads Were Under
One Head There Would Be
Personal Rivalry.

Attorneys for the governments
who are conducting the investiga.
ton into the management of the
Hartman lines announced today
that they had determined to take
steps to prevent E. H. Hartman,
Henry c. Prick and H. H. Rogers
from leaving the jurisdiction of the
commission. In order to prevent
this, steps will be taken to Cause
the issuance of writs of exeat die
rected against the men named, and
they will be compelled to remain
within the jurisdiction of the CONS
mission until they have testified be-
fore the board.
CHICAGO. January 1o.-Chairman Knapp
at the commencement of today's hearing
announced that the present hearing would
adjourn today. Mr.. Kellogg. the governs
ment attorney. declared that he would be-
able to get in all desired evidence.
James H. Hiland. traffic manager of the
Chicago. Milwaukee and ST. Paul was the
first witness summoned TODAY. He said
that the Union Pacific and Southern Pa
cifc were formerly competitors against
each other for Pacific coast business
Mr. Hiland was asked If competition be-
tween railroads would still exist if all the
railroads in the country were brought urla
der one management.
He declared that in all probability conrs
petition in such case would resolve IL.
self into a question of personal rivalry be.
tween the separate Arrangements of the
railroads. On the whole he considered the
edge would be taken off the competition,
and 1t would all things considered, be AZ
keen as under individual ownership.
Difficulty About Freight.
Mr. Hiland declared that since the CON.
solidation of the Union Pacific and Souths
ern Pacific his road had experienced great.
er difficulty in handling certain classes Of
freight.
Consolidation the Cause.
On cross-examination he was asked by
John G. Miburn, attorney for Mr.. HarTtS
man, if the consolidation itself thu
cause of the increased difficulty. He reA
piled very emphatically:
Yes, SIR"
How does 1t work against your liner
1.-The greater part of the business l hayA
mentioned goes by the Southern Pacifd
and is, 1 presume, DETECTED in that direcs
ton in order to make a longer haul thayy
would be the case if it went by the Uniod
Pacific"
Harriman's idea.
Julis Kruttschnitt, director of maintens
ance and operation on the Southern Pacifce
Union Pacific system, followed Mr.. Hiland
Attorney Kellogg asked Mr.. Kruttschnitt
a long series of questions regarding HIS
duties the substance of the answers being
that the witness is in charge of operation
on all lines of the Union Pacific Southern
Pacific system, except the lines in TexaA
Concerning those lines he is, he said, fres
Quently consulted by Mr.. Hartman and
President Lovett of the Texas lines.
When asked who had originated the idea
of placing one director in charge of operas
ton on all the Hartman lines except the
Texas roads, the witness said he presumed
Mr. Hartman. He had received his ar.
pointment from that source.
E. o. Mccormick, in charge of the pass
senger traffic on the Southern Pacific Union
Pacific, was the third witness.
Not Going Away.
NEW YORK, January 10.-Messrs Harrt-
man and Prick were shown the dispatch
from Chicago announcing that counsel for
the government had asked for writs Of
ne exeat to prevent them from leaving the
country They each in turn asserted that
they had not thought of leaving the United
States at this time, even for short period.