The Birmingham age-herald., 1907-07-12
Denies vindicator Case.

Haywood said he first met Orchard m 1904 at the time Mover met the man. Orch ard came as a delegate from one of tae Cripple Creek unions to attend the mill ers' meeting. Witness denied as fatly as Mover did yesterday that Orchard was at federation headquarters in December, l9c9. and that he had congratulated Orchard on blowing up the Vindicator mine. He never spoke to me at any time about the Vindicator," declared Hay wod, and never received any money from me"
 Haywood corroborated what Mover tes- tified to yesterday as to the circumstances of Orchards accompanying the president of the federation to Ouray, Colo. "s,'hen Mover asked Orchard If he had any firearms" said Haywood, Orchard unbottoned his vest. reached way down in his belt and pulled a forty-four calibre six-shooter It must have been foot and half long. I asked him what he was going to do with that thing He said hs would take it to Ouray. l said, Do you think those fellows down there are gong to wait until you undress yourself to get that gum"
 Haywods recital of the incident in even, good humor, called out a ripple of laugh ter in the courtroom. Haywood told of Movers return from Ouray to Denver in 1904 in custody of detachment of militia Haywood was him self prisoner in the custody of an of- fcer. Haywood at his own request was allowed to meet Mover at the depot. The witness told hom he had just greeted | Mover at the depot when General Wells interferred and Haywood struck Wells "What happened then?' 'eThe soldiers set on me and 1 got much the worse of It."
 Haywood was then taken to the Oxford hotel he said, and there one of the sol diers pulled a six-shooter on him. Hay wood struck the soldier, and then another i row occurred, in which Haywod was again roughly handled Haywood said that he heard nothing Of the Independence depot explosion or the murder of Lyte Gregory until after they happened Orchard, he said, had never approached him in connection with either of these matters. nor had he ever men toned them to him in any way. The federation, Haywood declared had ne.er had any difficulty with Gregory.
 As to Johnnie Neville, the witness said he had never met or spoken to the man. He did see him at headquarters one day, but whatever conversation the man hao there was with Mover
 Did you ever give Orchard at any time any money for the Independence eX- plosion?" asked Darrow.
 T did not
 Haywood said he saw Orchard at Petit bone's in May, 1905 He remembered the incident because of Orchards having so- lcited him to take out some life insur- ance He had no further conversation than to decline to have q policy written.
 He next saw Orchard in the middle of July.
 Did you and Mover ever have con versation with Orchard in Pettibone' back yard or anywhere else as to the killing of Governor Steunenberg?'
 "No sir. never"
 At Pettibone's store one day, Haywood said he heard Orchard say he was going to Alaska and was not going back 10 hls family in Cripple Creek. He said his wlle had boys by her first husband, and he did not feel like supporting another man children. Haywood said he told Orchari the little woman married him in good faith, and he ought not to desert heH' Orchard hung his head and said he was not going to support her.
 Was Orchard ever at your houseE
 "Yes sir"
 The witness never saw Orchard after August, 1905.
 Al this point court adjourned until a. m. tomorrow morning.