Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1907-02-18
CALLED WHITE NAMES.


ure, this dead man. this beast, the
blackguard, and said the man had
sought to take the virtue of every pure
minded woman who came within the
sphere of his observation. L tried TO
save them Mr.. Thaw said to us. i
Gid all in my power never wanted
TO shoot the creature. ] never wanted
to kill him / knew he was foul
creature destroying all the mothers ANA
daughters In America, but ] wanted
through legal means TO bring MIN TO
trial / wanted to get him into court
so he would be brought to 1ustiee,
II then asked him why under such
circumstances he had shot Mr.. White
AN ACT OF PROVIDENCE.
Providence took charge of it. he
replied. That was an act of Provi-
dence. For my part ] would rather
have had him suffer i'll court the huml-
liation the revelation of his acts would
have caused.
Did he tell you what he had done.
If anything, to bring Stanford White
into court?" asked Mr.. Delmas.
WHAT THAW DID.
"tre said he had gone to see Anthony
Comstock, Dist.-Atty. Jerome and
private detective agency. He said Mr..
Jerome had told he had better let the
matter drop that there was nothing
to it. The detectives told him they
would take the matter up, but they had
not submitted a proper report. As TO
Mr.. ,Comstock. he said he discovered
that Delancey Nicoll, the attorney. was
acting as legal advisor both TO STAN
ford White and to Comstock. He re-
garded this as another link In the con-
spiracy against him.
Il asked him why he had carried
pistol and he said Roger o'Mara,
t,t.. a.. urlz-iu
to do so after he had told OMara that
OH several occasions thugs had jostled
him in an attempt to get him into
quarrel. He said Stanford White had
hired the Monk Eastman gang TO get
him into quarrel and beat or kick
him to death.
The witness next went into descrip-
tior or his third v;rit.on Sept ~. Thaw
7 came into the room carrying the box
full of papers, Mr.. Hartridge had tried
TO induce him to give mp the papers.
He turned abruptly and left the room,
saying: Good day. doctor, am very
sorry
Il told him the papers had nothing to
do with his examination. but he left
the room and ended the visit"
AS a result of the visit, did you
draw any scientific deductions from
Mr.. Thaw's action3"
DOCTORS DEDUCTIONS.
Yes. He displayed highly explo-
sive mental makeup, in that. without
adequate cause. he dismissed his coun-
sci and physicians after he had agreed
in advance that we should come there
for the purpose indicated. He displayed
defective reason In putting aside pro-
fessional men whom he had been as
sured We're there through no unfriend-
ly part"
Ibid he mention to you the names
of any of the young women who he
said had suffered wrongs at the hands
of White?" asked Mr. Delmas.
Before the witness could answer.
Mr.. Delmas withdrew the question and
asked Dr. Evans il he had read the
codicil TO Harry Thaw's viii.
: The witness said he had read 1t in
part
did he mention to you the names
that appear in the codicilr"
Dist, Atty. jerome objected TO the
question and it was withdrawn.
Did Mr.. Thaw say to you that he
was not insane?"
THAw SAID HE WASN'T INSANE.
Yes, sir. He said: i am not in
sane"
Is it common thing for persons
suffering from unsound mind TO pro-
test that they are not insane?'
ut Is very common"
Dr. Evans said Thaw declared that
perhaps 200 or 300 persons might be
found who would say he was insane,
hut he did not think they could prove
it,
Relating Thaw's act of self-import-
ance, DR. Evans said
He wanted me 10 understand that
he was Harry Kendall Thaw of Pitts
burg; that he was the one and only
Harry Kendall Thaw and there were
no others"
What conclusion did you roach as
To Thaw'g declaration that his act had
been an act of Providence?
THAT IL was an insane deluslon."
Are not repentance, remorse and
fear of punishment The normal condi-
lions of sane man after he had COM
mittcd an act Of homicide. and the alb
sence Of these elements an evidence OF
unsoundness Of mind?"
'As a rule remorse ana repentance
are found in the same mind
DIR, WAGNER RECALLED.
This ended the direct examination OF
Or, Evans and Dr.. Wagner was re-
called,
"As result OF your VISITS 10 Mr..
Thaw on Aug, 81 and Sept 10 last did
you reach u conclusion as TO the men
tai condition of the defendant" asked
Mr. Delmas.
Yes replied Dr. Wagner. Fin my
opinion he was insane at that time
Drs. Finn, Mcdonald and Mabon also
asked permission TO examine Thaw, but
he had refused to allow them 10 do so.
The three physicians mentioned are
the allenists employed by the state IN
this case,
Mr.. Thaw said Dr. Daniel had also
called. but he had refused 10 let him
conduct an examination, although he
was sont by his own attorneys. He said
the lawyers and doctors were In coll
fusion with the district attorneys Office
to run him into an asylum and prevent
his case coming TO trial. Thaw always
referred to stanford White by an cpl.
tibet such as the blackguard.' or the
dead man.. but never by his right
name"
DR.. Wagner then repeated the same
story OF the Interview as was related
by DR. Evans,
''Did Thaw protest that he was
sane asked Mr., Delmas.
did Thaw ascribe TO himself amy
particular function IN dealing with the
subject that was on his mindYr
Yes He said II was his province to