The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1906-10-05
WOULD HOLD UP BRIDGE LOOP,
INTERBOROUGH INSISTS on
THIRD TRACK PRIVILEGE.
Failing That. Mr. Bryan Threatens That
HIs Company Will Not Permit The
Double Decking Of the EBOwery strucI-
ure-N. y. A. =. 40 GETS More Time.

Ure-N. Y. 4 3. 40. Gets More Time.
The Rapid Transit Commission granted
an extension Of time to the New York and
Jersey Railroad Company at its meeting
yesterday afternoon. and learned from Pres
ident f. W. Winter Of the Brooklyn Rapid
Transit and Nioe-PTesidsnt Bryan Q! the
Peterborough the views Of those interests
regarding the proposed Delaney street
loop. Mr.. Bryan declared that the Inter-
borough wOuld oppose the plan to construct
the loop by double decking the elevated
unless il received the third track concession
that was denied II a short time ago.
E~x-ComptTOlleT Circuit appeared as att Orney
for the New York and Jersey Railroad in
terests. He said thai the tunnel, properly
speaking, was very nearly ready for opera
tion: the need for an extension OF time was
owing to delays met in constructing the
terminals, particularly at the Jersey end.
The commission voted to grant an extension
OF n year, giving the company until jan
uary 1, 1908. TO operation. Mr..
Belmont was to have attended the meeting
in order to explain why the Int Peterborough
company should not be penslized forthe non
completion OF the Brooklyn subway, but
Chairman Orr announced tina he had sent
word that he was unable to attend.
1he proposition to provide city mone
to extend the subway from kingsbridge to
Van Cortlandt Park was approved. The pro-
pOsal that the city should furnish s7S5 900
to defray the cost OF construction was car
ried unanimously, in spite OF the comment
OF Comptroller Metz, who declared that the
city would find it impracticable to sell the
necessary bonds for some months to come.
Then the representatives OF the Delaney
Street and Bowery Property Owners As
sociation came forward to renew their pro-
test against the elevated loop on Delaney
street. Ex-AssiStant Corporation Counsel
Chase Mellen was the spokesman. he
declared that the property owners would
gladly see a subway loop built through
Delaney street, but that a elevated
loop would be so preIudicial to real estate
that it was not fair to expect them to 40
quiesce IN its cons ruction.
Mr.. Winter, the next speaker, was asked
to tell whether the bridges could be con-
nected better by an elevated or bv a sub
way loop. He said that physical cond j.
tons would compel the Use of the elevated.
There would be sharp or AIDES to over
come, he said, if a subway we're built. Cars
would have to descend from the elevations
OF the bridges to below the street in a short
distance. If a subw ay " ere used the Brook
lyn Rapid Transit would ave to run sub
way cars. That would mean replacing its
900 elevated cars by ar equal number of
cars OF heavier build and different equip
ment at a cost Of over 10000 per car. There
would be need of further expenditures TO
reconstruct the elevated structure TO meet
the strain Of the heavier cars. The equip
ment m structure of the whole elevated
would have to be made over.
As TO the terms on which the BROOKLYN
Rapid Transi would take the loop il il
were constructed by the city Mr.. Winter
said that he was against paying the city
any rental for the use Of the loop. 1T
would not bring us any considerable reve-
nue." he explained.
Questioned as to what the Brooklyn
Rapid Transit paid the city for the use Of
the Brooklyn Bridge, he said that a total
OF 81 ,967 900 had been paid in the last five
years. IF you can pay that much for the
Brooklyn Bridge YOU can pay something
for the Manhattan Bridge, " said Mr.. Metz.
IF the road made one bad bargain" re-
turned Mr.. Winter, that's no reason why
It should make things worse"
Mr.. Winter said that he was expressing
his own views in objecting to the subway
proposition and the payment Of a rental.
He was asked whether he could say that
the road would not entertain these PROPOSE
tions, but refused to speak definitely for
the company. Inc alternative OF a tenn
porary elevated structure to be replaced
after ten years by a subway was discussed.
He thought that in ten years time the adop-
tion OF a subway W ould become practicable.
Mr. Bryan was next heard: Il rave the
interests of the Borough of The Bronx
in mind just as keenly as the commission
has those Of Brooklyn He spoke of the
rejected proposals TO lay a third track
on the Second and Ninth avenue structures.
1t seems to me that in providing a double
commission il going beyond what we de-
ilege TO build our third track" He pointed
out that the elevated third track plans had
called only for the laying Of track on the
old structure and for very little double
decking.
Said Mr.. Metz "A third track would save
people in The Bronx from thirty to forty
five minutes a day. IL would let people
get out Of the East Side and up into The
Bronx
Mr.. Bryan was asked whether the Inter-
borough would permit theapproach Of the
contemplated elevated bridge loop unless
il secured the desired third track conces-
sion. He replied: Unless we get the third
track we will refuse to grant facilities for
double decking the loop
He said that a ten year elevated loop
concession would not infiuenc the Inter-
borough to be satisfied with a concession
OF equal length for the third track unless
the track were granted for twenty-five
years. He explained it would not repay the
outlay. He denied that the granting of a
third elevated track would cause the work
on the projected subway routes to siacken.