The San Francisco call., 1906-05-14
Statement Given Out by
Senator TiHmaD With
His Consent.
Says MF. Roosevelt De-
nOuRCGd Knox, Spoon
eP and Foraker.

WASHINGTON. May Ex-senator
Tiilman, who yesterday made a state
ment In the Senate covering the de-
tails OF his and Senator Bailey's ne
gotiations. through ex-senator Chan
oler, with President Roosevelt regard
ing the rate bill, tonight made public
& portion OF the written statement 10
him by Chandler OF his views on this
subject TO the President The portion
given out by Tillman is largely a repe-
NtlOn o. the first part Of his state
lnent IN the Senate yesterday. 1t COW
ers, however, that portion where Till
man had quoted Chandler as saving
that the President had stated that he
mad come 10 a cOmpletet disagreement
with the Senatorial lawyers who we're
trying 10 defeat or injure the bill
naming Knox. SpOOner and Foraker,
regarding which statement Senator
Lodge subseq quently said re was au-
tlol4Zed 10 say from the White House
tha- i-7Was an unqualified falsehood.
On this subject Chandler, referring 20
tae President, said, in his written
statement;
re said that he had been much
troloic1 5y me possibility Of an un-
l--n-te1 court review By some of the
lawyers iu the Senate-naming Sen
a-Jrs knox, SpOOner and Foraiser-as
trying 70 -ujure or defeat the bill by
ingenious arguments, Dut that he had
come 10 a complete disagreement with
Them. de made this point emphatic by
1eCet-iO
TILLMAN'S STATEMENT.
The statement given out by Tillmaa
follows
Senator Tiuman said today that on
Saturday, May 5, be insisted on having
from ex-senator Chandler a written
statement of the various conferences
by the latter in connection with the
plan. Of the President to control rate
legislation by alliance with Democrats
OF the Senate. and Mr.. Chandler gave
him such a statement made prior TO
|. Saturday, and signed by Mr.. Chandler.
1lr. TiIlman said he would give q por-
ton OF that statement relating 10 the
interview OF Mr.. Chandler with the
President on March 3I-which had be-
come & subject matter OF dispute-but
would retain the remainder for use in
case any other parts OF his statement
n the Senate on Saturday should be
denied.
The following is the portion OF Mr.
Chandler's statement given out by Mr..
T1llman:
"On Saturday, March 81. 1906, a
friend OF mine came into my office and
sold me OF the White House conference
of that day. IN which an understanding
as 70 q lfniter court review had been
eSAched with Senator Long and others,
and he told me that the President
wished 10 get into communication with
the Democrats, and would shortly ask
me to come and see him. While he
Tas talking a messenger boy arrived
with q letter to me from Mr.. Loeb, as
Follows:
The Waite Housa washington,
NsTch 81. Ieoe.-My Dear Senator
Chandler: The President requeSts me
20 ray that he would be glad to have
you come 10 the White House TO see
him at $50 o'clock tonight. VIII you
please let the bearer know whether
you can comet
% Very truly yours.
WILLIAM +. LOEB, JR-
Hon. W. z. Chandler, 1421 I street.
coNFERs WITH PRESIDENT.
Z told the messenger would be
ehere. AZ the time and place appointed
che President said TO me that he wished
through me to get into communication
with kr. T5llmRn, Mr.. Bailey and 9TH
er Democratic Senators. He stated his
purpose slowly and carefully, and In
exact substance his statement was this:
That he naQ reacneQ lne conCluhlOh
that the best plan for railroad rate
legislation was 70 expressly grant a
court review, put to distinctly limit it
20 two points; first, an inquiry whether
the Interstate Commerce Commission
had exceeded its authority, and, sec
ond, an inquiry whether the coDstitu-
tional rights OF the carrier had been
violated. He said that he had been
much troubled by the advocacy OF an
unlimited court review by some law
yers OF the Senate, naming Senator'S
Knox, Spooner and Foraker, as trying
70 ia5ure or defeat the bill by ingenious
constitutional arguments, but that ne
had come to a complete disagreement
with them. He made this point en-
phatic by repetition, and said that he
would go thus far and no farther. and
that his decision would be unaiterable-
He declared that he wished to ascer-
tain whether there could be united ac-
lion in the Senate among the friends
OF the bill, so that II could be surely
passed without injurious amendments,
and he named various Republican Sen
ators who, ne thought, were true
friends OF the bill, but said that it
would take nearly all the Democrats
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