New-York tribune., 1906-12-19
aTHE COMMONS BABE
rcther an Englishman, but an Irish
Earl Claims Scottish Dignity.

-, LORD Turnour, whose arrival last week IN
= .ountry seems 20 have attracted a great deal
N ,,,hiic attention than Is ordinarily Accorded
'.ssvs 10 visiting scions Of the English aris-
- could in no way he described as q fortune
..T even II he Were to take advantage OF MS
su,ra on this side OF the Atlantic 20 secure an
.-;csn bride for he is the only issue of extreme
A.sitl1y parents, and destined such TO IN
-. AZ their death all the vast property Of a fam
~ rbich since its foundation, nearly three CEN
sss AGO has been famous for its peculiar capa-
. ,o- the accumulation of riches. II derives its
,r,n from a Sir Edward Turnour. who while
.,s- Of the House Of Commons excited the in
ssr,s.ion OF Parliament for his dealings with the
-, India Company whereupon King Charles II, in
,erition OF his suhserviency 20 his wishes raised
,,r, 10 TIE bench, appointing him 10 the Office OF
r.,.. Baron and President of the Court Of the Ex-
hsouer He married twice. on each occasion an
s.,,ess and one OF his wives Sarah Gore, daughter
an Alderman Of the City Of London brought to
s,,, by way Of dowry. ShiIngee Park. one Of the
-,,sr beautiful places in Sussex. which has con-
,nued ever since 10 be the principal home Of tie
h.sd of the house Of Turnour More money was
troueht into the family by the marriage Of the
,rsndfathor Of young Lord Turnour 10 the daugh-
=, snd heiress Of Sir Peter Van Notten-Pole, who
,epresented the fortunes not only Of the Glouces-
,srshire Poles. but also Of the great Angio-Dutch
mercantile house Of Van Notten in Austin Friars,
London.
member Of the House of Commons. VIII be under
No obligation TO resign his membership thereof
when or the death OF his father he succeeds the
latter as sixth Earl OF Winterton. for his earl
dom and The two other peerages Of the present
lord winterton are Irish honors, and do not
carry with them any seat in the House Of Lords.
II Is probably owing TO the fact that Lord Winter
tcn owns no property in Ireland. has no Irish
klood IN his veins nor any connection with tha
Emerald Isle beyond the fact that his three peer
ages sre Irish that he has never succeeded IN GET
fne elected by his fellow peers OF Irelan3 as one
st the representatives Of their order IN the House
4, Lords Barred, though In that fashion from
The upper chamber. he could. II he wished secure
election 10 the House Of Commons and occupy a
seat IN the latter commoner while enjoying
al The prerogatives and immunities Of peer CT
the realm. II Lord Turnour is stu in Parliament
when be succeeds 10 his fathers honors. he Will
M, even be obliged 10 resign and TO offer himself
for reelection but retain his seat, owing 10
The constituency which he represents being an
English one Peers Of Irela4d are restricted TO the
representation Of Engjisf. Welsh and Scotch
srtuences n the House Of Commons. and cannot
ct for irish boroughs county divisions.
Lord Winterton quarters the arms Of Keith. Earl
Msreschal Of Scotland, with his own. by reason Of
The marriage OF his ancestor Sir Edward Turnour
'son OF the founder Of the family with Lady Isa-
bss Keith. daughter and co-heiress OF William
Keith Earl Mareschal OF Scotland. Indeed,
here sre some genealogists who insist that Lord
winierton, although Englishman by family de-
scent and domicile, and peer Of Ireland is never
teless entitled through inheritance TO this grand
81 and nlustrious OF Scotch dignities namely,
that Of Earl Mareschal Of the Northern Kingdom.
Lord Winterlon figures in the pages OF Lord
Bssoorsfelds novel Lothian under a most trans
parent psegdonyme, as one of the most gifted and
brilliant bro;hers-in-law OF the hero. Lady Winter
tan being a daughter Of ''the duchess who, as
e7erybody knows. the late Duchess Of Aber-
5orn Lady Wirterton is a sister of the present
Duke Of Abercorn and Of the marchionesses of
lsnsdovne and OF Blandford.
LORD sHREWsBURY'S TITLE IN DANGER
is by 10 means improbable that a claim may
b. put forward In the future 10 the Earldom
o.. shrewshurv which carries with II the dignity
and precedence OF premier earl Of England This
the inevitable result and logical sequence of the
recent decision Of the Committee on Privileges OF
The House RI Lords u the controversy between the
Duke Of Nurf0Ik and Lord Mowbray, 10 the effect
tai peeraEes could not be surrendered alienated
by the viii u their holders. and that the crown
had no power 10 bestow earldoms thus illegally
surrendered and therefore still the property OF the
family f1r the benefit Of which they had originally
been created Now. the Earldom of Shrewsbury
was first created by William the Conqueror In
honor Of OF the mobiles who fought under his
5enner the Battle Of Hastings and who bore
the name 90. Robert Of Montgomery. His son,
Roger Montgomery, is on record as having, for
some reason q another, surrendered his Earldom
n Shrewsbury 20 King Henry l. although he had
10th sons and brothers, from whom the present
George Montgomery. Lord Of Montgomerie and
Ea5l Of Egl.uton and Ninton. IS descended
Tie existing E.arldon of Shrewsbury. held by the
esant peer Of that ilk was created IN 1442 during
ne War Of the Roses by King Henry VI. and con-
Tered by him upon Sir John Talbot. But it now
sppears from the decision Of the Committee Of
Privileges cf the House Of Lords that King Henry
y had no right whatsoever to bestow any Earldom
u shreWs5Ury upon Sir John Talbot, since the
lsEitnate descendants OF the original Montgomery
lsFi of Shrewsbury were living at the time IN the
leson n the ancestors Of the present Earl of
Eglinton
IL must be- thoroughly understood that this de-
soh OF the Committee Of Privileges is not mere
a"Eary irserPretation Of law. but the result OF
1s most exhaustive and careful study Of all
lsoaval statutes bearing upon the subject. by
s-latee IMPOSED Of the most eminent legists
me British Empire, and including two former
-~fo High Chancellors. II is a decision which Is
.a'n 70 ne far reaching in its results and I,
- other earldoms besides that Of Shrevs-
-s' II NAV be added that these contests are
- on l1 he most friendly fashion, and that
e.. D1ke OF Norfolk with all the chivalry be
e me president OF Englands Court OF Heraldrv
~ ~ ChiFalry- went Of his way TO enable Lord
H.. nD'sy 70 see every document in his possession
- - pore upon his case or that could be used To
| sabllsh his claim 0Seu 10
''aENlCILERN BLOOD IN HIS VEINS.
No. Won Arnim who has just been appointed
| - o. agriculture by Emperor William. has
| .aA On or HohenzolleEn blood in his veins. He
| spy~.,-e1 iIs mother, a grandson OF Prince