New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1906-02-13

the railroads. as If everybody did not know that
the anthracite output is. and has been for years
controlled both to quantity and price" He de-
clared the PENNSYLVANIA road TO be 1.-The head devil
in the whole policy OF monopoly" and referring TO
the Baltimore and Ohio's policy in West Virginia
he said they had practically told the public IL might
'be damned"
He declared that strenuous effort had been
brought 10 bear on the President TO grant to the
railroads the privilege of appeal to the courts be
fore the orders of the Interstate Commerce Com
mission go into effect He had heard that
threats were being made that the President must
yield IF he stands firm and does not yield. then
1 will have more confidence" he added
Mr.. Foraker asked Mr.. Tilnnan IL he did not be-
neve provision for review by the courts should be
made, and Mr.. Tflrnan replied that he believed in
1t If properly provided for. otherwise" he said.
the poor devil of a complainant will be bully
ragged and dragged from court to another until
he Is forced into bankruptcy"
MI Foraker persisted in his inquiry. asking IL It
was not proper to let the courts say whether
order shall go into effect.
Mr. Tillman replied that all would depend on the
phraseology. He stood by the Presidents original
declaration that rates fixed by the commission
should go into effect within thirty days.
DO you think the Hepburn bill meets the
Quirement Of the Presidents recommendations or
exceeds themr' Mr.. Foraker asked.
Mr.. Tfllman again referred to the proceedings as
a farce. He thought there were too many words
in the Hepburn bill.
We are TO understand, then, that the Senator Is
entirely satisfied With the r' said Mr.. For
aker
MR.. FORAKER AGAINST HEPBURN BILL
II am not" replied MIR. T1Ilman. adding that he
intended 10 offer amendments to remedy the stu
alton in West Virginia He asked Mr.. Foraker il
he for the House bill The Ohio Senator re-
piled that he not 81 don't have be- he said
adding that If he had been favorable. Mr.. Lodges
speech would have convinced him that he was
wrong.
Mr.. Tillman insisted on knowing whether Mr..
Foraker was going to vote for the bill.
Il am not" said Mr.. Foraker.
Mr. Tillman replied that he was sorry Mr.. Pat
terson. such stickler about Senatorial proceed
ings." not present 10 give Mr. Foraker the
right hand OF fellowship. He went to say that
the Senate was under cloud and should take steps
TO clear it's good The newspaper press
associations however controlled and have my
suspicious that point" he said. have educated
the people TO believe that Theodore Roosevelt Is
their only friend here and that the Senate is the
subtle tool Of the corporations unless it takes their
ipse dixit." He then spoke OF the passage OF the
Hepburn bill. saying that the President had said to
the Representative whose name the bill bears;
Here. Pete, take 1t and get it through and
that the latter. "waddling about through words
the bill. had sworn that there things IN IL
which not and that there not things in 1t
which are there" Why should he be suspi-
cious? he asked
He declared tnaL the OIL ndO a lOOpAO6 In X
that a freight train might be driven through, and
added: You'll never stop the devilment till you
put millionaire in prison and put the stripes
him
TALKS OF GRIGGS AND MORTON.
He then told why he thought the President could
not be depended on the interests of the
people. He referred 10 ex-Attorney General Griggs
saying that Immediately after retiring ONCE
he had taken the case of the Northern Securities
Company against the Attorney General. Speaking
of Mr. Morton, he said he had resigned from the
Navy Department with the confession Of rebate
on him. made by his mouth, and the proof
hanging over him He is promoted Mr.. Tilman
continued, and made head of the great insurance
organization In New-York. which has been made
the stamping ground for dirty lot of thieves
man with this nice clean record and put him in
charge OF these scores OF hundreds or mlInonS
which are the savings, 10 speak, or widows and
orphans who have policies in that company Yet
here co. he went The White House Is
immaculate. l do doubt Theodore RoOsevelt's
integrity and patriotism. As 1 stated the other
day, he is mOnstrously persuaded by some people
who get around him and hOneyfugle him with fat
tery Whatever their methods may be. he stands
by his friends. He gave Morton certificate OF
good character.
Mr. EIkins obtained permission have printed
in The Record the West Virginia laws
peIling railroads TO make connections with other
lines saying they entirely relieve the State from
the charge OF disgrace made against IL for not
having enacted adequate laws on that subject.
Mr. Tillman's resolution was then adopted with
out division opposing vote