The Hawaiian gazette., 1906-01-19
LEADER PAYNE
OPPOSED TO THE
REFUNDING BILL
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WASHINGTON, ID. c., January s.
The Philippine bill before the House
has been the chief topic Of interest
here this week, OF rather since yester-
day noon, when Congress reassembled
following the Christmas holidays. There
is 10 be unlimited debate on il, accord.
ing to the decision of Speaker Cannon,
and members with ideas about tariff
revision will have opportunity to ex-
press their views. Senator Lodge, who
Is chairman of the committee that will
report the bill to the Senate, said this
afternoon he was satisfied the bill
would pass both branches of Congress
and become law.
A HAWAIIAN DEPRESSION.
The debate in the House will be pro-
longed, but the bill will be sidetrack-
ed early next week to allow the state
hood bill to be considered. That will
take, however. but two or three days,
in all probability, so that the House
will likely be back on Philippine tar
III before the end of next week. Thus
far only Chairman Payne and Repre-
sentative Champ Clark, of Missouri
have spoken. During Mr.. Payne IS
speech yesterday afternoon there was
little depression with reference to
Hawaii, which will not be without in
terest to Honolulu 1t is told in the
following from the Congressional Rec
ord:
Mr.. Lloyd.-ls the gentleman aware
of the fact that Hawaii is seeking
legislation at the present time to have
all the customs duties turned over to
the Hawaiian government
Mr.. Payne.-Oh, yes; and the gen
tleman knows there is no more pros
pect of their getting it than there is to
United States.
Mr.. Lloyd.-I beg your pardon; /
have no such knowledge.
Mr.. Payne.-Well, i think j know it.
Mr.. Lloyd.-You may know more
about it than / do, but i know such
legislation is sought and is pressed
with earnestness and with some degree
of merit it would seem. These people
down there claim at the present time
we are taking all their revenues from
them, and we are leaving them in an
impoverished condition, and they are
unable under the present system to
meet their present financial needs, and
it is a very serious proposition to them,
and so they are coming and demard-
ing legislation.
Mr.. Payne.-I do not think it is very
serious when you tell them we are
spending a great portion of it in APP
preparations, that we will soon be
spending more for the benefit of the
harbors of those islands, and that the
Territories of the United States get
no such appropriations from the Treas.
ury because they have no harbors and
they have to support their own govern.
ment, and they have to have imported
articles which are duty paid when they
come into their territory. Hawaii has
nothing to complain of.
Mr.. Lloyd.-That does not relieve
the situation, because we have informa-
| ton from what seems to be reliable
source that there will be no river and
harbor bill probably during this session
and probably not during this Congress,
so that any needs they may have in
that particular direction will not be
granted by the government.
Mr.. Lloyd is Democratic representa-
tive from Missouri and one of the
members of the House Committee on
Territories. Delegate Kalanianaole
was not on the floor at the time. ~
am sorry," said he today, "that I was
not present. / had been in my seat
all the afternoon and went out about
two minutes before the colloquy oc-
CURED. 1 might have had something
to say, but, perhaps, after all it was
just as we'll"
PAYNE AGAINST REFUNDING.
While the hostility of Mr.. Payne to
the plan for refunding is now openly
declared, it occasioned no surprise, for
he is generally hostile to every Hawai-
ian measure that comes up, calling for
an appropriation of money. Hawaiian
people well understood this hostility
when he was at Honolulu last summer,