The daily morning journal and courier., 1906-07-16
HARRY THAW'S MOTHER
 COULD NOT SEE HIM
PR0HIBITED BY RULES OF TIFF TONES FROM MAKING
 VISIT.

First Time Since Tragedy on Madison,
 Square ROof-AIrs. Thaw Stopping ag
 Same Hotel as Her Daughter-In-Iay 1 --Conference Between the Two
 Women at Which New Counsel Apo
 pears.
 New York, July 15.-Mrs. William Thaw was prohibited to-day by tho prison rules from visiting her son. Harry Kendall Thaw, in the Tornbs. but it was announced that she will sec him some time tomorrow probably in the afternoon It will be the first meet ing of mother and son since the trag- edy on the Madison Square Roof Gar den, when Thaw shot down Stanford White. Mrs Thaw returned from Fu- rope yesterday.
 Mrs, Thaw is stopping at the Hotel Lorraine, where Mrs. Evelyn Nesbit Thaw, her daughter-in-law has been making her home since Thaw was ar rested. There was conference in the elder Mrs. Thaw's apartments thia afternoon at which Clifford w. Hart ridge, who has become chief counsel for the prisoner since the latter's un- expected dismissal of the law firm of Black, Olcott, Gruber & Bonynge, was present. What transpired is not known and MT. Hartridge declined afterward to say what changes, if any, were con- templated in the line of defense.
 In speaking of the case to-day MT. Hartridge said that while he realized young Thaw was in ian awful hole" he did not believe that any jury would ever convict him of anything.
 T feel as sure as that" said the at torney, 'as do that I am standing here. I would stake my soul on it."
 Previous to making the statement Mir Hartridge had explained that for years he had been personal and even intimate friend of Harry" and it was as such that he was originally called into the case.
 As to the reasons leading up to the decision on the part of Harry Thaw to dispense with the services of Black, Olcott, Gruber & Bonynge, MT, Hart ridge said he could not speak at this 1 time He added Judge Olcott is d personal and professional friend of mine and it would not be fair to him or to Harry to talys about that phasa of the case until shall have had an interview with Judge Olcott. expect to see him tomorrow and get from him the results of his work of the last two | l rSor aIr Jxy. ed from Judge Olcott many profession al papers in the case including a long statemen made to the judge by Mrs. Harry Thaw The others, Judge Ol- colt tells me, are locked in a safe de- posit vault down town, but will be handed over to me tomorrow, as soon as the bank opens for business"
 MT. Hartridge then said to the re- porters:
 T want full and frank understand ing with the men who are going to fol- low this case for the newspaper. I wish first of all that nobody should bO misled and that no stories detrimental or untrue as to either side shall get into print and be credited to the coun- Stl lOI I1uIIJ IAdNtt LAO IL lS illduy stories have been printed that have hurt the case in the minds of the pub lie and the friends of both persons most concerned in the affair. All that we want is the truth. It will come out in good time"
 From a suggestion made by MT. Hart, ridge it is evident that both Harry o..I 1al o. 1 j. make some kind of statement for the new chief counsel said that among other plans he had in mind was ona providing that Harry and Mrs. Harry Thaw should write out for him what ever they think or feel that the news, papers should know and he would pasa on the articles, and if he approved them would give them out to the news paper men. It is known to those who have talked to Thaw and his wife that there are several subjects on which both wish to speak, but their lips have been sealed hitherto by counsel. One oi these subjects deal in great part with ] their early life and family relations.
 MT. Hartridge was asked by one oi the reportetrs if he was in a positior to outline what the defense might foe , particularly what the attitude of ths present counsel would be on the Gin. sanity" theory, in view of Thaw's strong determination not to be tried with that defense. MT. Hartridge said
 T will not now nor at any future time before the trial give even a hint of what the defense will or may be Such a proceeding would be unfair tx my client as well as unprofessionaL Il will be months before he will be brought up for trial anyway. I do not look for a trial before November ol more probably December"
 Thaw spent a quiet day at tn, Tombs. He had counted on a visit with his mother in spite of frequent warning from Warden Flynn that there 3 was little likelihood of her getting pas l the portals on Sunday Warden Flynn . said to-day had been the most '.rest. l fuI" for the prisoner since he had en. , tered the Tombs.