The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-01-12
HIS MEMORY Is HAY.
Some Other Witnesses Give
Pretty Strong Testimony.
Before Special Commissioner
Larimer in WyandOtte County.

lice. Chief Rose couldn't say positive
ly'' about a number of things and stood
upon his constitutional rights every
time c. C. Coleman. attorney general,
tried to prove the chiefs knowledge OF
the system Of licensing Joints.
Chief Rose a Witness.
Chief Rose was the first witness at
the afternoon session. He testified that
he had lived in Kansas City. Kan. since
April 1, 1904, and that he was not relat-
ed to the mayor. Mr.. Coleman said;
State whether you had any converse
tion with Mayor Rose relative to the
manner in which the joint question was
TO be handled.
Answer-Not that can specifically
recall.
Ouestion-There was issued what was
known as a Sunday closing order?
A-There was an order general in its
terms.
O-By whom was it given?
A-By me.
Q-Have you that order?
Al am not sure. 1 may have it IN
my files
O-state whether or not in pursuance
90 the order from the mayor. you made
the communication to the force?
A-No. sir; I initiated the whole mat
ter myself
In reply to another question the chief
said that practically all the affairs OF
the police department were turned over
to him.
tQ-What were the mayors instruc-
tfons to you in general way regarding
the handling of the 'joint" situation by
the police2
Al couldn't give that in a general
way. Those things came up in an in
formal way. They were left to me
O-Then there was a understanding
A-No. sir; I couldn't say there was
an understanding. / knew what the
mayors ideas were
O-How was the Joint question han
died?
torney for Mayor Rose and Chief Rose.
on the ground that it called for the
conclusion Of the witness and that evil
deuce given might tend to incriminate
him.
He Makes an Admission
The attorney general then asked Chief
Rose about the number Of men on the
department when he took charge, and
introduced a letter addressed to a mem /
her of the police force dismissing him
from the department pursuant to in
structions from the mayor. owing to a
decrease in revenues" This was one
of the letters addressed to the men,
dismissed after the joints were closed
Chief Rose identified his signature to
the letter.
-O-When were these instructions given
you?
Al think about the middle Of No
vember. I wouldn't be positive
Q-What reason was given you for
the reduction
A-That the funds were not sufficient.
GLOW had the funds been de-
creased2
A-Upon the advice of my attorney I
viii have to decline to answer that
question and stand upon my constItu-
tional rights.
O-Has the Sunday closing order ever
been revoxedE
0-What was the nature of your COM
munication to the police?
Al directed the captain to make a
communication to the officers saying that
the policy established by the preceding
administration. ordering all the places to
close at midnight Saturday and remain
closed over sunday would be continued
in force.
and saloons in the city,
40 that's understood.
This was the chief s only admission that
ne knew Of such a thing as a joint He
was then excused
sTohn II. Sims. police judge, was sworn
AID testified regarding the mode or police
court procedure in arrestssfOr violation of
the ordinance relating to the sale of in
toxicating liquor and as to the amount of
fines collected
the Mayor Knew Of "JOints."
William Kelly, jr said he talked to
Mayor Rose six weeks ago about the
II met Mayor Rose on the street and
offered sympathy that he must bear the
brunt of the fight, over the Joint agita-
wei. suppose 1 am ousted from Of
fee said the mayor. III get nominated
again and go before the people. 1 will be
reelected mayor
won could 20 before the Democratic con-
veution and get nominated again on the
direct issue Of the joints and the ouster2
ssThy. Certainly think Z cam was his
SIr Hutehins made objection to an the
conversation. Mr. Larimer overruled the
'E4fs answer about the Democratic con
vention seems to show that Mayor Rose
knew of the joints and for that reason
viii allow the conversation to go into
HIr. Kelly had another conversation
with Mr.. Rose ten days before the cleo
ton. but after Rose had been nominated
Savings bank and Adyron Waterman, the
fndependent candidate. was there. Mr..
Hutchins objected to the telling of this
conversation, but MIR. Kelly was told to
state IT,
down. He said that Waterman would get
fhe vote of the prohibitionists and detract
from his support Iten waterman said
to him; Mr.. Rose Il you VIII promise
TO- close the gambling houses and Joints
will drop out Of the race and help to
elect YOU Then Rose replied that he
C,,I7 NOT stand for the closing Of the
'ioints' He was willing TO close the
gambling houses but insisted on letting
Mr. TIutehins attempted to show that
Mr. Kelly was an enemy of the mayor
and was telling all he could TO get him
onsted Mr. Kelly said. however, that he
Tvas stil friendly to the mayor, and that
he considered his relations friendly. as
Rose had asked him TO pun Waterman
on"
J. s. siIvey's Testimony.
s. Snvey, secretary of the Mercantile
club. was the last witness. He supported
Pose for mayor Mr.. Sllvey said that he
had an interview with the mayor Just af-
Ter the saloons in Kansas CITY, NO. had
been closed Sundays.
s'1Iy conversation was prompted By per