The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1906-06-01
cloves bv Colonel Lawless be stricken

Cloves, by Colonel Lawless be stricken
from the record.
He said in court OF law an appeal
could be taken. but from this committee
there could be no appeal. He pointed
out that the committee had overruled the,
motion without even demanding proof,
and for this reason he thought the de-.
fama tory charges should be stricken from
stheBrecord.
He submitted that there was no answer
to be made to the charges except the
contents OF the secret rcord."
The Secret Record.
He said that II the charges remained
upon the record, he would advise his
client to disclose the secrets of the Senate
record and to introduce the secret rec
orc" as evidence.
Colonel Anderson submitted that the
decision Of the committee freed his client
from all obligation Of secrecy. and he
would be responsible only to tlle General
Assembly of Virginia.
He said that any court in civilized
countries would strike from the record
all ma tier which is "scandalous and i'm
pertinent"
IAN enemy viewing the acts OF any
3manSis apt to place upon them wrong
interpretation said Colonel Anderson.
We have all along said that we want
all the contents OF the secret record
INdQc puUlC, 80 luaL Lie pcOplc may SIC
where we stand.h
II contend that the committee has
already used the secret record In alloW-
Ing the charges (aGt.inst Clowes) to
stand upon the record Of this case" n
Senator Rison: Then you think the
secret record should be used?'
Colonel Anderson: 1T has already been
used"
Mr. PullIam: "Can we place It as evil
6anca even ya xuish n do az 5sts.i.
Colonel Anderson: "That is for you to
say, but you have already done So.
An Appeal Court.
Senator Rison asked IL the Legislature
was not an appeal court and would not
pass upon the report OF this committee?
Colonel Anderson said he did not think
so, but that this report would be ac-
copied.
Colonel Lawless replied that he did not
agree with Colonel Anderson; that there
were three appeal courts-first, tho Gov
ernor; second, the General Board, and.
third, the Legislature. Colonel Lawless
said that at the proper time he would
introduce evidence to prove the chaTgD
he had made, and that 1t was necessary
to have the charges on the record, 80
that the evidence no proposed to intro
duce would be intelligent to those whose
duty 1t would be to read the record. He
the members OF the General Board and
the members OF the General Assembly
would either read the record in toto or
at least enough OF It to judge intelli-
gently In speaking OF the secret req
orc" he said:
II AoiRED WITH COLONEL AN
DERsoN IN DESIRING THAT THE
SECRET RECORD OF THE CLOVES
INVESTIGATION BE MADE PUBLIC,
AND L SAY, IF IT GOES OUT TO THE
WORLD, GOD SAVE THE WITNESS
IN THAT CHAIR (pointing to Clowes)
Colonel Anderson, in reply, submitted
that the Legislature would pass only .in
the report of the committee, and would
not, in any event. strike out "scandalous
and impertinent" matter In the official
record
lie argued that the five charges should
be stricken out of the record, and that
the creditability OF the witness should BIO
attached In the usual way to witnesses
placed upon the stand.
Only One Redress.
In, conclusion. Colonel Anderson said;
l'The charges on the record serve only
one purpose, namely, to assail the chars
acter OF the witness now on tho stand,
and leaves him but one redre ss-that isi
to disclose tho contents OF the secret
record,
Colonel LaWless, N answer 70 Ques'
lions asked by Senator sadler and Mr..
Ould, said he would at the leoper time
Introduce witnesses to prove the grounds
set out In his motion.
Senator Rison pointed outs that e this
committee was acting for. the Leg1sla'
ture, and that all features Of the !nycs-
tigation should be reported to the Legis-3
lature in tho official record. The Legis-
lature, In passing upon tho matter.
should have every light possible lighted
II may be. he said. that the Legislature
may think that the witness should not
have been allowed to testify, and for this