Arizona republican., 1906-07-16
NO VISITING
 ON SUNDAY
IOmbS Prison Rules Not
 Broken for Mrs. Thaw
Clifford w. Hartwidge Elm plOyed as COunseI--Deten-
 dant and Wife Will Talk,

New York. July 15.-Mrs. wm. Thaw was prohibited by the prison rules from visiting her son, Harry Kendall Thaw, in the Tombs today. but it was an nounoed that she will see him some time tomorrow, probably in the after noon.
 It will be the first meeting of mother and son since the tragedy on the Madi- son Square roof garden, when Thaw shot down Stanford White Mrs Thaw returned from Europe yesterday. Mrs. Thaw is stopping at Hotel Lorraine. where Mrs. Nesbit Thaw, her daughter in-law, has been making her home since Harry Thaw was arrested There was conference in the elder Mrs. Thaw's apartments today at which Clifford w. Hartwidge, who has be- come chief counsel to the prisoner since the latter's unexpected dismissal of the law firm of Black, Olcott, Gruber and BOnynge was present. What was transacted is not known and Hartwidge declined afterwards to say what changes if any were contemplated in the line of defense.
 In speaking of the case today Hart widge said that while he realized that Thaw was in an awful hole" he did not believe that any jury would ever convict him Of anything. II feel as sure of that said the attorney, "as I do that l am standing here. would stake my soul on it. Previous to n1ak- ing that statement Hartwidge had ex- pIained that for years he had been the personal anl even intimate friend of Thaw and it was as such that he orig inally was called into the case.
 As to the reasons leading up to a determination on the part of Thaw to dispense with the services of Black, Oloott Gruber and Bonynge. Hart widge said he could not speak at this time. He added: Judge Olcott is personal and professional friend of mine and it would not be fair to him or to Harry to talk about that phase, of the case until I shall have had an interview with Judge Olcott. I expect to see him tomorrow and get from him the results of his work of the last two weeks or more"
 Hartwidge then said to the reporters: T want full and frank understand ing with the men who are going to fol- low this case for the newspapers. wish first of all that nobody shall be misled and that no stories detrimental or untrue as to either side shall get into print and be credited to counsel for Harry Thaw. As it is many stories have been printed that have hurt the case in the minds of the public and the friends of both persons most con- cerned in the affair. All that we want is truth. It will come out in good time"
 From suggestion made by Hart widge it is evident that both Thaw and his wife are anxious to make some kind of a statement for the new chief coun- sel said that among other plans he had in mind was one providing that Harry and Mrs. Harry Thaw should write out for him whatever they think or feel that the newspapers should know and he would pass on the articles and if he approved them would give them out to the newspapers. It is known to those who have talked to Thaw and his wife that there are several sujects on which both wish to speak, but their lips have been sealed by the counsel. These are subjects dealing on their early life and family relations
 Hartwidge refused to give a hint as to the line the defense would take.
 Ut will be months before he will be brought up for trial, anyway" he said, "I do not look for trial before No vember or more probably December"