The Montgomery advertiser., 1906-01-07
HENRY H. ROGERS IS
 RETICENT AS WITNESS

Shall do it now?" asked MT. Rog- CTS.
 No: you may do that later" Mir. Hadley asked if Mir. Rogers knew H. Clay Pierce of Missouri: "Oh yes, | have heard of him. MT. Rogers said he did not know R. P Tinsley personally but had heard of him. Do you now own. hold or control by yourself or through any other per sor, any stock in the Waters Pierce oil
 Counsel objected and Mir Rogers de- clined to answer, though requested by the Commissioner to do so.
 Do you know MT. Van Buren?"
 Heard of Martin Van Buren.
 T knew of one who died many years ago. Martin Van Buren," said Mir. Rog- CTS.
 MT. Hadley insisted on better an- swer. and Mir. Rogers demanded Van Buren's first name. Does not a man named Van Buren hold for the Standard oil Company of Indiana or the Standard oil Company of New Jersey a controlling interest of the stock of the Waters-Pierce Com pany of Missouri?'' Mir. Rogers declined to answer. Witness said he did not know c. l. Nichols, nor w. T. Mckee of the Re- public Oil Company. Are you connected with the Stand ard Oil Company of New Jersey"
 T decline to answer on the advice of counsel"
 'Is 1t not a fact that you arc di- rector in that company and that 1t owns. holds or controls either through itself or some other corporation or in dividual all, or controlling interest in the stock of the Standard oil Com. pany of Indiana and the Waters-Pterce oil ConpanyT MT. Rogers again declined to answer.
 Were you one of the trustees of the Standard Oil Trust during its exist" ence?" Mir. Rogers declined to answer. MT. Hadley asked If during that trust I the trustees did not hold a majority of the stock of the Waters-Pierce Com panv and if from that time the Waters \ Pierce Company has been controlled, either by the Standard oil Company of l Indiana or the Standard oil Company f of New Jersey? MT. Rogers again declined to answer. The standard of Indiana. "who has charge of conducting the | business of the Standard oil Company i of Indiana?" 'The president James A. Monett," | said Mir. Rogers. 1 Did he ever report to the board of I directors as to the territory In which ! the Standard Oil Company of Indiana | does busineEs?"
 T do not think so, never heard of 1t"
 'Is 1t not fact to your knowledge that the Standard oil Company of In- diana and the Waters Pierce oil Com pansy have divided the State of Mis- souri between them as trade territo-
 .1s not. never heard Of surh | @~Yg was ever made" said Mir Rogers.
 a4f 1t Is fact that the Standard oil Company sells oil in the northern part df Missouri and the Waters-Pie Oil Company in the southern part and nei- ther will sell in the territory or the other. have you any explanation as director, sofi such a division?''
 MT Rogers said T am not assum- ing You asaume too muoh."
 MT. Rogers said he did not known Alexander McIoonaid.
 f'Do you knew 1t to be a fact that in 1900 Mcdonald and W. Fl. Tilford negotiated the purchase of the prop arty of Schoheld, Schurmer and Teagle and that the business has since been run by the Republic oil Company of which the incorporators were three clerks in the offices at 26 Broadway?"
 q do not" said Mir. Rogers.
 Did you know it?c T said do not" Did you?" q did not"
 DO you know that these are not the tacts?"
 Thinks They Are Not Facts. T do not think they are the facts" Mrs Rogers said he did not know where W. H. Tilford is now.
 'Is he In New York?" T do not know whether he is here I or in purgatory."
 What place" | Tt is not in Missouri" said MT. Ros- erA
 He said also that he thought W. H. | Tilford Is director of the Standard oil Company of Indiana and that he had seen him within month. Witness knew IT M Tilford and said he thought MT. Tilford has an once at 26 Broad way
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 MT. Rogers would not answer.
 Is It not fact that H. M. Tilford is 1 connected both with the Standard oil Company of Indiana and with the Standard oil Company or New Jersey?"
 MT. Rogers declined to answer that and the following question.
 "Is 1t not a fact that there is maid ever to H. M. Tilford as often as it is declared two-thirds of the dividends of tIl0 W lCA IN Oll OOIQpdnYy'
 Counsel objected to this as an indi- rect method of finding out the stock control
 Asks for CerTIficatiOn.
 Mir Hadley asked that the question be certified to the Supreme Court
 Mr Rogers declined also to answer |, the question Did you have some business transactions with H. Clay | Pierce in 1904 by which you secured for either the standa.c oil Company of Indiana or the Standard oil Company of New Jersey. all or part of the Wat CTS Pierce oil Company
 MT Hadley made the same request for certlfication.
 "Is the business of the Standard Oil Company of Indiana handled by com mittt es?"
 You will have to explain that"
 Have you not at 26 Broadway q committee on domestic and foreign business. on Illuminating or Iubricat- ing oil. and is not all the business of the Standard OH Company Of Indiana handled by a committee7"
 Counsel objected ana MT. Roger dc- clined to answer. He said he did not know whether any part of the business of the Standard oil Company of In, diana is done through committees.
 The hearing was then adjourned un. til Monday