The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1906-02-03
GRAND JURY
USED REPORT
OF GARFIELD

Chicago. Feb. 3.-Arguments concerning
the admlssibility OF evidence occupied the
greater part OF yesterday I'm the meat
packers plea for immunity case. and at
the time OF adjournment only two Wit
nesses had been on the stand.
Thursday night just prior to the ad-
journment, District Attorney Morrison OBJ
jected 10 any statement Of Jesse b. Ly-
man OF Boston, formerly president OF the
National Packing company relative TO
any conversation between Mr.. Lyman
and Commissioner OF Corporations James
r. Garfield. Attorney Morrison asserted
that Mr.. Lyman was not a party TO the
trial, nor was the National Packing COM
pany. and therefore that his evidence as
to a plea OF immunity should be ruled
out.
Judge Humphrey finally permitted Mr..
Ly man TO reidte the convel sAuon. IL did
uot amer ina.e4laliy IRON other conVersa-
uOns OF The same kind that have pre-
Late in ,he day. under -eXamina-
uOn, Mr.. Lyman admitted tnat the Ma
tional Packing company mad never
.le declared that II was a holding COM
pany only
GARFIELD REPORT USED.
Ihe attorneys Tor tne packers declared
tnue tney wlshed TO have Mr.. Lyman
1Csuly lesarding ms conversations Wlth
Commissioner Gdrheld at the time the
commissioner arrived in this city TO com
uence Als Investigations
AIier the arguments had been In prog
ress for over TWO hours the court COM
.nenced 10 put questions. lie addressed
himself first 20 the distIlCt attorney, say
ing:
III it is true that the defendants in
this case sat on the board Of directors
OF the National Packing company OF
which Lyman was the president he was
their agent VAS ne notY
Not at all" replied District Attorney
Morrison. "He spoke only for himself .
The court here remarked with evident
regret: II really hoped that you gentle
men would have clear argument TO put
before me this morning"
we can show" said Attorney Miller,
acting for the packers, that this Car,
field report was used before the grand
jury, before which Mr. Lyman was a
MUST PRODUCE BOOKS.
-'Can you prove that?' asked Judge
Humphrey.
u can prove It by this very witness, "
replied Mr.. Miller. 81 will show that the
very matters given TO Mr.. Garfield re-
lating 10 the National Packing company
were brought out before the grand Jury
through Mr.. Lyman. and that the Gar
field report was used before the grand
jury by District Attorney Morrison in
cross examining Mr.. Lyman"
District Attorney Morrison declared that
tiIe arguments t-7-tst-At4 Ian
of whether a corporation can have i'm
munity. lie declared that the only way
they could obtain immunity was for one
OF its officers 10 produce books and papers
Of the company under oath
"Wcll" said Judge Humphrey, IF Gar
field talked 10 the witness about these
defendants and how he was 10 get the
books and papers. his testimony Is com
petent."
II do not see by what process OF rea-
soning the court arrives at that conclu-
| sion" replied District Attorney Morrison
J 'lf II is TO be that by talking TO any
( man I'm the company Garfield gave i'm
! munity 10 all. we are spreading immunity
| about like a pestilence."
"In answer TO Mr.. Miller I will say that
! this Garfield report came 10 me like any
other document which had been published
| for weeks, and / used II as such"