The Birmingham age-herald., 1906-05-14
PULLMAN GIVES
 OUT STATEMENT Confirm, .:sntiiy for Position
 ss$s' haI' Bill Conference WIDELY DISCUSSED BY LEADERS 
Ex-Senator Chandler to Whom Till man Referred In Speech Satur- day Declines to Discuss
 the Matter.

Senate covering the details of his and Senator Baileys negotiations through ex- Senator Chandler with President Roose- Welt regarding the rate bill, tonight made public a portion of a written statement made to him by Mr Chandler of his various conferences with the President on this subject The position given out by MT. Tillman is largely a repetition of the first part of his statement in the Senate yesterday. It covers, however, that portion where MT. Tillman had quoted MT Chandler as saying that the President had stated that he had come to a complete disagreement with the senatorial lawyers who were trying to defeat or injure the blll, naming Messrs. Knox, Spooner and Foraker. regarding which statement Senator Lodge subse quently said he was authorized to say from the White House that it was an unqualified falsehood. The statement giv- en out by MT. Tillman follows:
 Senator Tillman said today that on Saturday. May 5, he insisted on having from ex-Senator Chandler a written state ment of various conferences by the latter in connection with the plan Of the Pres ident to control the railroad rate legisla- ton by alliance with the democrats of the Senate and MT. Chandler gave him such a statement, made prior to Saturday, May 12, and signed by MT. Chandler. MT. Tillman said that he would give out a portion of that statement relating to the interview of MT. Chandler with the President on March 3l, which had be- come a subject matter of dispute, but would retain the remainder for use in case any other parts of his statement in the Senate on Saturday should be de- nied."
 The following Is the portion of MT. Chandlers statement given out by MT. Tillman
 Chandler's Statement.
 ''On Saturday afternoon. March 3l, 1906 a friend of mine came into my office and told me of the White House con- ference of that day, in which an under standing as to limited court review had been reached with Senator Long and others, and he told me that the President wished to get into communication with the democrats, and would shortly ask me to come anu stt W htAN t'S "SS talking a messenger boy arrived with a letter to me from MT. Loeb. as follows: .,rhe White House, Washington, March
 3l, 1906.
 .s'My Dear Senator Chandler: The presi- dent requests me to say that he would be glad to have you come to the White House to see him at S:3O o'clock tonight. Will you please let the bearer know whether you can come? Very truly yours
 "'WM. LOEB, JR.,
 Secretary to the President.
 "Hon. w. E. Chandler, 1421 l street: I told the messenger would be there. At the time and place appointed, the presi- dent said to me that he wished, through me, to get into communication with MT. Tillman, MT Bailey and other democratic senators. He stated his purpose slowly and carefully, and in exact substance his statement was this:
 Presidents Statement.
 ''That he had reached the conclusion that the best plan for railroad rate legis- lation was to expressly grant a court re- view but to distinctly limit to two points: First. an inquiry whether the interstate commerce commission had exceeded it's authority; and, second, an inquiry wheth- CT the constitutional rights of the carrier had been violated He said that he had been much troubled by the advocacy of an unlimited court review by some of the lawyers of the Senate, naming Sena tors Knox, Spooner and Foraker as trying to injure or defeat the bill by ingenious constitutional arguments. but that he had come to complete disagreement with them He made this point emphatic by repetition: said that he would go thus far and no farther, and that his decision would be unalterable. He declared that he wished to ascertain whether there could be united action in the Senate among the friends of the bill, so that it could be surely passed without injuri- ous amepdments and he named various republican senators who he thought were true friends of the bill, but said 1t would take nearly all the democrats to carry the limitation and defeat all obnoxious provisions.
 After the President had made his statement I replied that l had reason to believe that most of the democrats in the Senate would sustain his limitation of the courts power but that l was sure Mir. Bailey and MT. Tllman would insist upon coupling with the limitation some re- strictions upon the power of the courts to issue injunctions against the orders of the commission. Before had finished my statement on this point. the President interrupted me. saying l need not explain. further because ne WaS WdTnly Tn IaVOr of some such restriction.
 That evening I saw MT. rillman and told him what had occurred.
 Is Widely Discussed by Leaders.
 Senator Tllman's statement in the Sem ate yesterday was the principal topic of discussion in official circles today The senator had a number of callers at his apartments with whom he talked freely about the matter. among whom were Sem ator Bailey and ex-Senator Chandler. MT. Chandler has been urged by some of his friends to make public statement over his own signature regarding the denial by Senator Lodge of the accuracy of the Presidents remarks in reference to Sen ators Spooner. Knox and Foraker. He declined, however, to be further brought into the controversy at this time, saying hc would let the matter for the present rest on the statement made public by MT. TiIlman.
 Attorney General Moody. whose partici patton in the ra te bill conference was re- ferred to by Mir. Tillman. was in New York today. He Is expected back in Wash iDgton tomorrow.
 Senator Lodge called at the White