The evening times. [volume] (Grand Forks, N.D.) 1906-1914, 1906-04-14

most siss! points. Ia and It i as : QUESTION ia
The President. Does the Senator
from North Dakota yield to the Senator
NJ. Hocamber. Certainly. 7
Mr.. Aldrich. l would be glad to have
and Senator answer 1t who thinks he
daS,S Ssota po ss the ssn
Mr: Mecumber. Ipyleld to all Sem
Nj. Beveridge tto. Mr.. Aldrich). Re-
Mr.. Aidrich. It is whether the bill
the gives tS the
to give the Cimmission Jurisdiction over
Mr.. Aidrich. / was content with the
Senator's first answer, which seemed to
be conclusive. l would be glad to hear
some one else who will give a different
by. section. is Of this bill is plain.
Commission. where a complaint is made
that given rate is too high or is in
the nature of a discrimination forbid
ing maximum rate and an order to re-
quire the carrier to cease and desist
from the discrimination in SO far as
authorized is under section 10 Of the
existing law. and must be. directed
against a given carrier: or. where more
rate. against the carriers participating
in 1t; It will be seen, therefore, that
the bill deals with no rates except
carrier, or in the case of Joint rate,
by the carriers who participate in 1t.
and with cases Of Discrimination made
the joine line of more than one carrier
participating in the same Joint carriage.
1t is therefore obvious that the bill
Determinations except such as are in
volved in the carriage of goods over
particular line or a. joint. line. 1t
differentials or any Of the territorial
conflicts, such as the one that was re-
GENTLY submitted by the trunk lines to
the voluntary arbitration of the Inter-
state Commerce Commission.
Mr. Nc Cumber. Evidently we differ
a little upon the construction Of that
law. Let us suppose that the board
mission the charge that the rates
ffhargedn on all ct class 4 freight be
the Chicago anS 9ea
excessively high and unjust. Does the
senator mean to say. to me that the
COMMISSION would not be compelled to
bring in one little shipment, but you
may, may also invite the railroad COM
a schedule Of rates which he says are
too high. and the Commission has to
consider those; and IL can understand
language Of that measure il read it
correctly. then the power lies with the
board absolutely I,s to consider not only
effect will determine the whole cues
,tiOn. II you can take up one class, you
can take them all up in the same
Mr.. Aldrich. But this provision of
section Is Of the bill as it came from
the House directs the Commission to
wise in violation OF the provisions Of
this act"-that is, the interstate-com-
merce act: and the third section of the
interstate-commerce act reads as
THAT it shall be unlawful for any
common carrier subject to the provi-
nae OF to EHe any
advantage to any particular person,
company, firm. corporation, or locality,
or any particular description Of traffic"
interstate-commerce act, and any rates
which are in violation of that pro.
vision 1t is the duty of the Commission
as upon the question Of reasonableness
can not understand the use of
language Il that does not give to the
diction over differentials. u
s. Mr.; D fla Gou. VIII my friend the
Mr.. McCumber. Certainly.
Senator from Rhode Island says. 1t is
evident that the DETERMINATIONS re-
ferred to there are not such discrimina-
comparing the rate on the illinois
Central from Chicago to New Orleans
with the. rate on the Lake Shore and
New York Central from Chicago to New
Mr.. Aldrich. "Any" is the word used.
Mr.. Dolliver. But it is not competent
70 establish claim against the Illinois
whole object. Of this bill has been to
narrow the jurisdiction Of Commission
certain authorized parties against = a
common carrier, or where there is more
than one; against the railroads inter-
not be found in the bill line which
authorizes the Commission to weigh
the rates to New York against the rates
Baltimore, or Philadelphia, or any
NJ Foraker Mr.. President
ator from North Dakota yield to the
Senator from Ohio?
Senator. and then I will proceed. ''
Mr.. Foraker. I wish to ask the
Senator from Iowa, il the Senator from
otherwiss. Under this hi. iSfo}se! Sec oe@
law. It would be possible for the
hear and determine whether the rate
from Chicago to New York is an un-
rate to Baltimqle Shd RhladsPh
put or cents lower, and for no
Mr.. Dolliver.. The Interstate Com
merce Commission will be required UNI
on its merits. to make whatever in
nation it has and ali the informatfon
It can get. but directed to the ques-
tion whether the rate complained Of as
excessive Is in reality top high.
,,i Mr. ,n Fora ,ss9;o, That is It precisely:
is whether or not the rate from Chicago
to New York Is excessive as compared
with the rate from Chicago to Phil
adelphia or Chica"o to Baltimore The
complaint may not be in that exact
intsliissp I'LL 4 VIM
sidering relative rates that you can
determine whether or not difference
OF or cents on grain from Chicago
to New York is a discrimination; and
to consider that. the whole system of
disruption which the Senator from
North Dakota has pictured so eloquent
Gy,, and I'd. forciblX would Inevitably fol-
Commissioners fhemaelveQ n d}har.