The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-05-24

you explained your financial embar-
easement to Mr.. Kelly, state treasur-
er2s'
II explained the situation to him.
And he agreed to finance the propo-
sition for you?
Wei. he agreed to take the bonds.
And furnish you the money!
Yes. Of course"
In telling about bringing the bonds
to Topeka, Mr.. GODDARD admitted that
he was armed.
time in my life I ever carried gun
Where did you go2''
We went to the state house.
"And turned the bonds over to KEEL
YES. sir"
When did you get your ss.ooO?.'
1T was sent to me by mail from
Kansas City"
Put it in my bank account.
Did you have some talks with Irving
II. Cole of the auditors Officer
I don't recall any.
Didn't you tell him you didn't want
this to get into the newspapers?
II may have said that: it was quite
natural I didn't want my business ex-
plotted in the newspapers.
Didn't Remember About 1t.
what was L H. Coles position -
"He was bond clerk"
you went to the auditors office to
get the Comanche county bonds regis
tersd E.
Didn't you say you didn't want the
newspapers to get it2'
Il presume did"
when the bonds arrived didn't you
tell them to put them In their SAFE ana
say nothing about it?'
Il may have done So
Didn't you as many as four times
ask Mr.. Cole to keep duiet?''
It may have done So It was my
own business. I wanted it kept out Of
why. this was state business.
wasn't it?'
Not at this time
did you pay any part of your Sill
600 to anybody else, except to Rich ?"
mo, sir"
When was your attention called to
the fact that you had been overpaid
s2502"
''I read it in the paper"
when did you pay It back? ?"
a few months ago"
AT whose request %
well. I argued the matter with the
attorney general and he thought [
ought to pay it back.
ooh you argued with him. You
thought you owned the money!
well I didn't like to let go of the
money"
You paid 1t with INTEREST,"
yes. I went the whole distance
What was your first proposition to
Comanche county ?"
1T was the same rate and a larger
commission
When Kelly paid this money to the
Interstate bank you thought that
closed the Transaction"
Probably so but not necessarily"
you paid the bank $3.50 lump In
terest for three days2"
Yes"
And you collected $3.50 excess in
terest to get square on that deal?"
81 did not"
you knew Kelly had no right to
let you have that money!"
II knew. technically, that it was IN
lawful, but"
"MG: Kelly did this as personal
81 knew it was technically irregular,
but not wrong"
Had any money ever been ad-
vanced to you out of the state treasury
for previous bond deals2"
81 think not. I'm not sure
but you ought to know.''sa
TT has been commonly done by
treasurers. and have known OF such
things having been done"
Don't you know that the state
treasurer has conducted bond deals
with bond brokers. yourself included %
Il don't like that way Of putting the
question"
Did the state treasurer at any
other time advance money to you be
fore it was technically due?'
Il am not sure. but I don't think
so.
do you know of any instances of
this kind with others"
IT knew of some transactions of that
kind"
Did Mr.. Burrow, Mr.. Coleman or
Mr.. Dayhon know that this money had
been loaned you2''
mo. I think not"
You didn't tell them %
of course not"
OF course not. I wouldn't either"
said Mr. Waggener.
The plaintiff did not ask Mr.. Godard
any further questions.
Auditor Wells Called.
State Auditor Seth G. Wells was the
next witness.
Mr. Williams examined the witness.
Did the state board Of equalization,
or you as a member, change the valua-
ton of Comanche county to enable
somebody to make sale Of Comanche
county bonds2"
Il did not"
Did Mr.. Coleman. Mr.. Burrow. Mr..
Dayhon and Mr.. GODDARD hold a confer
ence with you on August 11?"
They did not
Was any pressure brought to bear on
you to induce you to register the Co
manche county bonds?"
There was not
Was there any secrecy in their reg
istration?"
There was rot"
When were they registered?.
They were registered after supper
Mr. GODDARD told me that one of the
commissioners was going away. and I
said to accommodate him I would reg
lister the bonds after supper. We were
short of help in the Office, and had not
had time to register the bonds in the
afternoon
They were not registered after sup
per to preserve secrecy
mot that I know Of"
Mr.. Wells then explained the method
Of registering bonds in the office of the
auditor.
rs it a common or uncommon thing
for you to register bonds at night?''