The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1906-04-06
SENATE TURNS ON DOLLTVER
FOR SLUR IMPLIED IN HIS RATE
BILL SPEECH.
Better to Hold Counsel With Roosevelt
Than With Railroad Presidents, Said
He-WhO DO YOu Mean? They Retorted
oh, Nobody In Particular, He Replied.

He-WhO DO You Mean? They Retorted
oh, Nobody In Particular, He Replied.
WASHINGTON. April 5.-Ever since the
agitation over railway rate legislation was
begun there have been insinlations, and in
some instances direct statements, that
United States Senators who have opposed
placing restrictions on the authority OF the
Federal judiciary to review orders OF the
Interstate Commerce Commission were in
frequent conference with presidents Of
great railway corporations. The plain
inference sought to be conveyed by these
covert accusations was that conservative
Senators were conspiring with heads OF
railways TO defeat the pending rate bill
Senators thus indirectly accused have
remained silent, awaiting the time when
some one would be bold enough to make
the accusations openly, or in such a manner
that it could be noticed.
To-day the expected explosion came.
More properly it should be designated a
flareup, for the author Of the trouble en-
tered a disclaimer of any intention Of re-
flecting upon the motives of his more con-
s~ervative colleagues in the Senate. 1t was
Senator Deliver of Iowa, the associate of
Senator Tillman of South Carolina in managr
81. LIN tuO ItililllB Idlo plht WV ellHNt N"O
match. For a half hour or so there was an
extremely interesting scene on the floor
of the Senate, and at one time the pro-
ceedings bordered on the sensational.
Senator Stone had just finished a set
speech on the Hepburn bill when the inter-
esting episode started. Mr.. Stone had
spoken of Executive interference with
legislation and when he sat down Mr..
Doliyer arose and referred 10 that feature
Of Mr.. Stones remarks.
Il count it," he said, "to be just as re-
spectacle and just as perfectly in line with
my public duty to hold counsel with the
President of the United States on these
questions as to have my colleagues and
friends here holding sweet councils with
the presidents of railroad corporations of
the United States upon these questions
Then Mr.. Deliver spoke of an editorial
article this morning in "a famous news
paper" the reference being to THE Sun,
concerning President Roosevelt's asstitude
on rate legislation, and proceeded to give
his Interpretation of how the President
stood on this question.
Il have spoken in this way he said in
conclusion, mot for the purpose OF irrltat-
ing a~nybody's feelings. / know that much
IL said here in the Senate about Executive
7 interference, but | close by suggesting that
the institutions and legislation OF the Ameri-
can people are much more liable TO he
damaged here in the Senate Of the United
States by interference from other quarters
than IL is by the friendly and patient sug-
~gestions of the President of the United
States"
Mr.. Bailey. the Democratic leader, said
he was opposed to attempts by the Exectl-
tive to influence legislation as a general
policy, but admitted that there might be
exceptions, and, with what many regarded
as sarcasm, said that "tf there ever was a
circumstance under which the President
was justified in comforting with his friends
in Congress, this measure furnishes that
Justification" The President found him
self confronted with the opposition of his
own party, declared Mr.. Bailey; and, he
added. Il do not ~exaggerate when say
that to-day less than one-third of the
Presidents party friends on that side OF
this chamber sympathize with this effort to
secure the enactmen t Of this legislation"
This gave Mr.. Aldrich, the leader Of those
favorable to liberal court review, the OPP
porturity to explain the position Of himself
and the other Republicans who are regarded
as being opposed to the President.
% ldI do 1 hllS"' fN~i' va "hA'i iN'i
there is no Senator sitting upon this side
who does not sympathize fully with the
Senator from Texas and the President of
the United States in a GCsire TO secure effcC-
tive and proper legislation in reference TO
the regulation Of railroad rates, That a
large rart of the Senators on this side do not
evmpathize either with the President or with
the Senator from Iowa in a desire and in
the purpose to so limit and circumscribe
the rights Of The pcople of the United States
that they cannot be effectively secured in
the courts of this country | will admit,
and that is the only admission | will. make
In reference to tins natter"
Mr.. Bailey rec again and after paying
n tribute TO the honesty OF the Senate p-
ferred to what Mr.. Dollivcr had insinuated
about Senators and railroad presidents. He
agreed with Mr.. Deliver that those who
had conferred with President Roosevelt,
had rendered tn, country a better service
than those who Rad hcon comforting with
tho presidents of railroads. hut the Senate.
he maintained, was entitled TO know who
had been comforting with the railroad
presidents.
sIf any Senator here, a" he said, has been
comforting with tho railroads or tho presi-
dents Of railroads with a view to defeating
legislation IN thN rublc interest," the HSna'e
10 entitled to know it and the country is en-
titled to know it"
This brought Mr.. Foraker to his feet with
n statement hat Mr.. Bailey had anticipated
him. What Mr.. DolIiIer had saii was-a
"charge, " he declared, that the alleged con-
! ferenccs between Senators and railroad
presidents were for the purpose of defeating
y the rate bill.
sIf there is any truth in that " exclaimed
Mr.. Foraker, turning TO Mr.. polliyer. Il
cav it is a most serious charge, and the
A Senator's referred to should be- named.
/ shall demand Of tho Senator from Iowa
the names of the S~enators-if there is n
member Of this boiy engaged in such con-
fecnces and he knows who it is"
RI 81 shall take the liberty OF not pursuing
that controversy responded Mr.. Dolliyer,
But Mr.. Foraker persisted. He did not
imagine, he said that Mr.. Deliver referred