New-York tribune., 1906-04-06
SENATOR'S MADE ANGRY
LIVELY RATE DEBATE.
DoTEer's Words Resented-More
Echoes of White House Conference.
From Tho Tribune Bureau. J

1,,.,-s n the United States on this question
-,,s statement made by Senator DoIliver in
.s s,,sl catapulf style of oratory. precipitated
,,.v and interesting debate in the Senate this
,.e-,ooD. although the acerbity which char
..,e-5zed its earlier moments finally gave way
..,o-a the geniality Of Senator Allison. and SEN
80 DolIiver apologized for any reflection his
-.,s-l,s might seem TO have cast any or all
- his brother Senator's
NJ Delivers vehement assertion was called
fo-,b hv the criticism OF alleged executive inter
ference with legislative affairs made by Senator
c.,rs e. 2 long speech on the Railroad Rate bill.
~ Stone referred TO the conference held ar the
white House last Saturday in manner which
o-,sare5 10 anger Mr.. Doliver. who uttered the
.bove declaration as soon he could secure the
s,o~ Continuing. Nr. Dolliver undertook 10
.ho7- nv quotations from speeches made by the
r-ssi5ert that the latter had never deviated
@-o-7 mis- original position with regard 10 the
exi~r If railroad rates. which. the Iowa Senator
said had been that the courts should have power
- ss- aside q rate fixed by the Interstate Com
~,eroa Commission only when such rate was
so,,od 70 be conhscatory. Mr.. Dolliver enphati
,su,- denounced those members Of the Senate
who 90 before the country claiming TO be carry
,rr out the Presidents recommendations. while
-bev are attempting 10 adopt amendment
Trf-h reduces the President s recommendation
n 4 practical and legal absurdity."
Senator Bailey followed Mr.. Dolliver with
rr9tesr against executive Interference with the
legislative branch of the government, although
be declared that with the exception Of President
NcKinley's efforts n avert war With Spain. he
had never known an instance when The Presi-
derr could 50 properly seek 70 have his rec1m-
r7endsr-ons carried out Mr. Bailey asserted
thar less Than one-third of The Republican mem
hershr n the Senate synpsthized with the
President I'm his desire for rate legislation.
so far as I know replied Senator Aldrich.
There Is no Senator on this side who does not
sympatrize with the President and with the
Senator from Texas in the desire for just and
proper legislation on this subject"
A DEMAND FOR NAMES.
NJ Bailey demanded to know who ii was that
had been consulting with railroad presidents. as
charged by AIr. Dolliver.
Mr.. Foraker secured the floor and announced
that the Senator from Texas had anticipated
MIN in a demand for this information. be de-
Clsred that the charge was a serious one and
insisted that the Senator from Iowa should not
make so general charge without naming the
men whom he referred.
With great emphasis Mr. Dolliyer declined
10 DE- 50. Re protested that he had not meant
70 charge members of the Senate with any ir-
proprlety when he said thai they had consulted
Win railroad presidents. as every one dealing
win the subject had been obliged 10 consult ex-
Ier's and he and his colleagues of the Interstate
Commer-e Committee mad spent weeks last
spring listening TO a representative gathering
q railroad witnesses lie insisted, however,
thar Senators should be A. liberty 10 consult the
CHEF Magistrate of The nation without being
subjected 10 taunts and ridicule.
~ T-i71r1ar, f--a--,-r,.l -
read in the newspapers that President MelIen Of
The New York New Haven & Hartford road
had called IN the President 10 protest against
certain features of the Hepburn bill, and thar he
had himself seen President Cassatt Of the Penn
syIFanla road disappear into the sancturn Of
me Senate Committee on Interstate Commerce"
Nr Foraker raised a laugh by announcing
thar he had met President Cassatt only once
and that was al the White House He remarked
moreover, thar Messrs MeIlen and Cassatt were
in favor of the Hepburn bill, which in his opin-
ion could not in5ure their roads because OF their
peculiarly advantageous geographical locations
bur which would work hardship TO less fortu-
nately situated railroads. As Senator Dolliver
had referred 10 Mr.. Foraker's letter on railroad
rates. addressed 10 the Ohio legislature M
Foraker asked that IL be printed in the record
He showed considerable resentment Al the lone
and The implications q Mr. Delivers remarks
and the Senator from Iowa then proceeded TO
diselaim any intention 10 impute improper mo-
rTes 10 Mr.. Foraker or any other member Of the
Senate asserting that he had enjoved too much
experience, even had be possessed evidence that
There was collusion between Senators and rail-
road officials. 'tG explode il here" He added
that The problem would be easily solved II the
ral.road managers would cooperate with the
a7 makers instead 4 spending, he had been
Informed they had, approximately 100000 in
literary caupaign calculated to befog the
issue"
Mr. Aldrich again took the floor 10 reiterate
his position with reference 10 the pending legis-
-alun- - desire" he said earnestly. "to enter
2 protest against the assumption that any Sen
stor here is the only friend Of railroad rate
legislation. 10 one here has any patent which
Touid justify him IN assuming 10 speak in that
-aIacity. ] know Of no one here who is opposed
u proper legislation and there can be no proper
classification of some as friends and Of others
az enemies de then referred TO The pending
legislation Is Of an economic character. and said
that the Senate not divided party lines,
bar thar there were divisions on both sides Of the
chamber as 20 the details Of the measure.
Finally Mt. Dolliver sought 70 explain his
original charge on the ground that in yester-
days debate there had been sneers Al those
who attended he conference At the Nhlle
House but Mr.. Foraker insisted that this was
mistake, that the Senate had merely embraced
g rare opportunity 10 enjoy itself at the eA-
Ierse q Senator Allison.
INCIDENT ENDS WITH LAUGH
Senator Allison lauEhingly declared that This
was news 10 him. he had supposed that all
The fun was al the expense OF Messrs Bailey
and Foraker and that ne had left the chamber,
he believed with flying colors. But he
acded, being IN forgiving mood, am ready
70 stand corrected, and believe that Il was all
Il my expense" The laugh which followed
-osed an incident which for time seemed