Omaha daily bee., 1906-06-08

"oh, well, there is a difference between
belief and knowledge" said Mr.. Lorimer.
.'Wel, 1 know It," replied Mr.. Neill.
Did you examine them?'
Il observed them"
You say other diseased persons also:
what other diseases?"
81 am not willing to state
We'll DOCTOR" said Mr.. Lorimer, you
have made these statements to the world
in report which the president has sent
TO u.s. and which has done incalculable in
jury to this industry and we want to know
the facts" s..
II have made this report and am willing
to. stand on it," replied Mr.. Neill, There
were smells OF medicine on these men-that
you get in dispensories for certain diseases"
Mr. NELL here asked permission to. make
a, statement lie said that 1t was six
weeks, ago, that he was in, Chicago. He
saw hundreds Of things that did not go
| ihto; his report. Ass to = the rubbish that
went into the meat, he did not specify
! rubbish, as snail serubbish, piece OF rope"
II saw rubbish go into that meat and
said So" As to tuberculosis, he had. made
observations and also had interviewed
physicians who had told him the work
tended to produce that disease.
|, ..,+- Question of Morality.
As to the tendency of the work in the
packing houses TO lower the morals. Mr..
Neil said he believed that this 10 the case
las an instance" he said. "a young girl
l6 or II years old had to walk across A long
room filled with men TO 60 into a water
.closet-this does not tend TO morality, espe-
clally when some of those men are or the
lowest type-I will not say the workers
are immoral"
When Mr.. LOrimer asked the witness IL
he had any complaint to make as to his
treatment as a witness, Mr.. NELL replied
that the treatment of the witness (MT.
Wilson, yesterday by certain members of
the committee and the treatment of him
self today by the same members was strik-
'ingly different. especially when the testi-
mony of Mr.. Wilson tended to raise a di-
rect question OF veracity between himself
and Mr.. Reynolds and Mr.. Wilson.
That's just what | think. too asserted
Representative Lamb (Va.), warmly.
MIR. NELL denied that the girls sit down.
They may have permission, but there is
nothing for them to sit on" he asserted.
He also referred to a room for girl workers
which was poorly ventilated.
Did you have any objection to the man
roOms2 asked Mir. Lorimer.
II must say" after pause replied Mr.
Neil, that | was so Interested In OBJ
serving the conditions OF the workers in
that room that / did not take notice OF the
product"
Mr.. Nell commended the government in
spection, but would not commit himself
on the state inspection.
Ii was mistake to state. as Mr.. Will
son did yesterday, he said, that the pack
ing houses are open TO tile public. He
then described the hog sticking process
and said one man sticking hogs was
nearly as clean as am, another was COW
cred with blood" He described one room
where girls were packing dried beef In
which the girls looked well and clean. The
fault I'm this room. and this applied al
most universally, was that the water closet
ventilated into the room. The closets were
flushed automatically.
Every suggestion made 10 correct the
absolutely brutal indifference" with which
the employees, especially the young girls
were treated, he said, was met by the
statement, "Oh, they don't mind that"
The committee then adjourned until 1890
o clock tomorrow.