The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1906-09-30
Upton HERE; STILLVANTSC CUP
SIR THOMAS ANXIOUS TO CHAL-
LENGE UNDER NEW RULE.

AsEENU0 SNDEA N1W
Owner OF the Shamrock speaks Out Against
the Freak type which Has Resulted In
Loss OT Lfe-WM Talk Over Matters
with New York Yacht Club Members.
Sir Thomas Upton IL here again after
an absence Of three years. His last visit
was when tho Shamrock III. was beaten
In q series Of races for the Americas Cup
by the Reliance. That was the third defeat
Sir Thomas had experienced. Now he Ia
here again. ready and willing to challsnge
for another race for the coveted trophy,
and in the statement he made yesterday
he Ia willing 70 race under any conditions
that are iaiF and ss &c ur 20 the Nav York
Yacht Club to say whether the sAmerioas
Cup shah be what It was originally intended,
a challenge trophy emblematio Of the cham
pionship Of the yachting world or a cup that
IL to be kspt on the shelf and In time to be
smothered by dust and dirt because IL 30
30 tied down with conditions and rules that
no ono who challenges has o chance OF suo-
cess.
Sir Thomas has no power from any club
to issue a challenge for q race. but h Is
mere formality. He wants to find out just
where he stands. He does not want to
chalIenee In the dark. He says that the
CHALLENGER has all the disadvantage and
thinks tits only right that there should be
an understanding as soon a. possible. He
will confer with members Of h New York
Yacht Club this week. He admits that the
| club can officially arrange races only through
the medium OF another club. That he was
told very bluntly by the olub when he
innooently asked for information some
time ago.
II be Is assured in any way that the New
York Yacht Club will agree to meet a rep
resentative Of his club, and that would be
his boat, with a boa that Is not a freak
he will challenge. He does not care b
the rules are. They may be the American
or the European or any rules that will bar
freaks and help the development OF q whole
some boat. He says yachting and yacht
racing ia not to build freaks and get the
greatest speed on a given water line length
but TO build boats that are a credit to the
maritime world, boats that can sail fast
and are good cruisers. boats that are sea-
worthy and safe and not boats that can
sail on a mill pond and founder In a tumble
Of a sea or carry away in a blow.
Sir Tho mas will meet the New York
Yacht Club with an honest boat. He Is
willing TO build two himself and send the
better OF the two after the Cup against
ANYTHING the New York Yacht Club can
produce, but It must be a boat hat will
not endanRer the lives OF his crew in send
inR il across the Atlantic. n he does not
care II it is a 70 footer, a 90 footer OF q
schooner.
Sir Thomas, Col. Duncan F. D.. Neil, who
sailed the Shamrock /. in the trial races
against Shamrock H., and John Westwood,
secretary for Sir Thomas, arrived here on
board the steamship Celtic yesterday. At
Quarantine several Of Sir Thomss's friends
including r. A. C. Smith, owner OF the
Yacht Privateer, met him and there was
lots of talk in the smokeroom about the
plans OF the Irish baronet for the next
few weeks. Sir Thomas looked well. He
in the same as ever, jovial, witty, full OF fun
and kind hearted. He remembered every
one and had a good word for all. He was
pleased with his reception. When the
steamship was passing Sandy Hook the
Shamrock was hoisted, and the signal code
spelled out the message, Welcome TO
America" and on vessels in the harbor the
Shamrock was down in honor Of the popular
Irishman.
After greeting many friends one asked
aWhat about a challenge, Sir Thomas?'
There was a twinkle in his eye, and after
bordering for a moment or two Sir Thomas
saiN. That's getting to the point quickly
but Characteristic Of this country"
"A challenge for the cup will have to be
issued by my club to the New York Yacht
Club, but while 1 am here 70 visit friends
am also here to consider the subject and
find out Just where l stand. l am just as
anxious to race again for the, cup as ever
but l want to come with a boat in which
think l have a chance Of success and one
that would make me think tha l had a gooc
@ nance to take away that piece Of plate
which has been so long away from its orig
ina home"
DO you want a race next year or the
year afterr'
sThatis q matterfor consideration. There
9 not much time to spare now. n challen'
ger has to give ten months time. and wheT
the challen &c is issuedit Is expectedt that the
challenger has to q certain extent made iI
plans because with crossing. the Atlantic
Changing rig for the trip and other things
lots Oh the ten months time is taken up. II
is a serious matter to prepare a yacht for ar
International race and takes a long, time
"a MANY things have to be considered.
Il never had any difficulties with the
New York Yacht Club. That club was
always ready to meet me IN q TAR, Sports
manlike way and ready always to arrangt
a race. Everything I ever asked has al
ways been granted and ! don't think tina
obstacles will be put in the way this time
want a race under q rule that will NEAR
that wholesome boats and not freaks vii
be built. l don't care what the rule Is
IL may be the American rule, which 40
, cording to what l hear has developed q
/, rood boat and worked very successfully
! or It may be the European, which also de
. velops a good boat, but II the old rule 4
10 be in force again there will be no race.
: There is no designer in Britain wh'
, for love or money could be induced u
J design a boat under the old rule. l hav'
= peer in consultation with William Fife
Z Alfred Mylne and others, but they all abso
: lutely refuse to design under the old rule
. for the reason hat every year the boat
. are getting more and more freakish ant
; with their light construction, long over
J hangs and other freakish ideas are making
: the Journey across the Atlantic more an
. more dangerous. It is not a question o.
: my not caring to build a yacht under thos
: rules but the danger OF the transatlanti
trip.
? 4 am as anxious as ever for a race. Moth
1 ing would suit me better than being abb
!. to mt n GOOD boat in the water in who