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Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1906-06-02

THE ANNUAL MEETING Of vfR
l GINA ALUMNI ASSOCIATION. OF
Alexandria, Virginia. will be held Ut the
ofEce OF NORTON & BOOTHE. i2s south
Fairfax street, on Tuesday, June 5, 1905, al
]. RANDALL CATION, JR Secretary.
je22t
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1906-06-02

6Oc @. P. TEA and l6c freshly roasted COf
FEE are exceptionally good for RIIc5sss I a.
= " ~ J. C, AILBUBh,
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1906-06-02
CHINA, GLASS AND HOUSE FUR
NISHlNG GOODS.
ElIiOtt'S,
Cor. Pitt and King SITS
Rich Cut GLASS
and China for
June Brides
At Right Prices.
Don't miss seeing the new designs in Cut
Glass, which We are showing, especially the
dull finish star effect worked into the glass
The tasct is beautiful.
Hayiland Dinner Sets att. s25, s35 and so
Japsuese Dinner Gongs st 1925. - and s.
Chsfng Dishes st............ 1895. IS and $3.50
Salad Bowls aud Berry sets.-.... s2.so to S5.s'
Jardioisrs and Pedestsls at. 1898 aud - %
s,tsums Vases, per pair ............... $50
Lamps aud Chamber Sets
$3.50, s. IS and $40 Esct

AAEMBERS OF ALEXANDRIA-WAsH-
w TNGTON LODGE, No. p, A, F. & A.
NJ are notified to assemble at Masonic
TsmDls MONDAY AFTERNOONS at 3:i5
O'clock to attend the funeral Of our late Bro,
William X. Purvis, Past Master Of this Lodge.
Members If Andrew Jackson Lodge aud all
Master Masons in good standing are invited.
By order of the Worshipful Master.
JAS. s. DOUGLAS. Secretary.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1906-06-02
FHE WHISKY OF OUR FORE
FATHERS,

Summer prices on coal. See our ad vertis'
mint. W. A. sMOOT & co.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1906-06-02
Special Notice.

Best Flour s5.04bbl., guaranteed ssso'
lutely; large sack, zoe; small Loci best Conee,
heat Preserves. Csc; best Mustard 4c jar, Cat
snn &c bottle; Sweet Pickles, Sc bottle; es car
of Peerless Cream 25c; leans Challenge MIX
BIC. 2 cans Kairomel Syrup, Zoe; eaqa
New Orleans Molssses, Doc; best Table
Pesehes, 2 cans 25c; any brand OF soap &c
'AN HARLOW BROTHERS,
mv,sH Cameron and Royal Streets
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
PERSONALS

Querino Garcia Is In town from
Rociado today.
0. A. Larrazolo will spend Sunday
with Father Rivera at Sapsllo.
Rafael Lucero left for the lower
country on a business trip To-Day. +,
Luis and Condido Vigil OF Rivera
are In the city today on business.
+. S. Haskell left today Tor Mont
gomery, Ala, much improved In
health.
Ben Williams. the special agent and
officer Of the Santa Fee, Is In the city
today on business.
Robert Martin Is here from Socorro
county to attend a meeting OF the
cattle sanitary board. q
w. c. Mcdonald, the big cattleman
from Lsffcc::n county. Is in las Vegas
to attend q meeting Of the cattle SAM.
tary board.
Capt. w. H. Jack, the well known
Grant county stockman, came In last
evening and attended the reception to
the governor.
Mrs. j. II. Lacome arrived In the
city from Santa Fe yesterday after
noon. being called here by the illness
of her mother, Mrs. F~lorentina c. Lo-
peg.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
Timely Politics in
n. the Quaker City

Philadelphia, Pa, January 20
The political situation in Philadel
phia is in a muddled state. Even the
most astute observers cannot venture
a prediction as to the outcome with
any degree of confidence. The situa
ton, in fact, amounts to a crisis
The reform forces bearing the banner
Of the City party which led them to
victory last fan, are seriously threat
ened by the attitude OF some OF the
leaders who were active In the recent
reform campaign. These leaders
who are believers Of reform within
the party, and to whom the idea Of
fusion with democrats in distasteful,
are planning, 1t Is believed by many
to build up a reorganized organiza'
ton stronger than that led by the
-auondam leader, Israel w. Durham,
The Intention Of these administration
reorganizers, 1t is claimed, Is TO Sc
cure a delegation from this city "a
the republican state convention at
Harrisburg in June, pledged to the
nomination OF Mayor Weaver.
Capture OF the republican organiza'
tionsby forces identified with the city
ADM histration Is the keynote Of the
political plan, and the results Of last
week's primary election snow that q
strong beginning has been made. Oh
the ia delegates elected to the
state convention more than 100, 1t "a
declRred, are controlled by the new
organization leaders, and will sup
port any candidate or governor and
other state officers rs selected BY
these leaders. In the list are many
me9t OF prominence, some Of whom
havG never before attended . state
convention.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

win Its way for street costumes. but
will not appear with evening toilettes
except when unusually handsome and
costly.
After the first Of February. which
means stock-taking II Will be easy
to tell the full story OF the coming
seasons styles and materials. II one
may Judge by the early exhibit. next
summers favorite materials are ia
echo last summers ideas. but with
additional touches Of beauty. The
charm Of the silk and cotton mix
lures, which was one OF the features
OF last season, Is intensified this year,
and many Of these shimmering silky
stuffs are sold ut prices higher than
those asked for me average all silk
material.
One objection may be urged against
these stutfs. They do muss and crum-
pie with distressing readiness. but
they may be pressed out and fresh
ened, and, from every otner point OF
view, they are eminently desirable.
Exquisite lowered designs are to be
seen on every hand. and. to eyes long.
Ing for summer skies and flowers.
are particularly ailuring. Yet despite
the predominance Of the lowered
idea, l venture the prediction that
monotone effects will be the ultra-chic
thing In summer modes.
ESTELLE.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
Murray and Mack
Draw Large House

The best musical comedy OF the
season appeared at the opera house
last night, when Murray and Mack,
the well-known and popular come
dians, appeared In around the
Town This makes their fourteenth
consecutive year as stars at the
head Of their own organization and
their popularity has constantly in
creased, having outlived all of the
farce comedy stars who have been
prominent along with them the last
few years. Their popularity in this
city was evidenced by the big advance
safe and crowded house with which
they were greeted.
Their present play, "Around the
Town. in a brand new comedy, bet
ter suited to their peculiar talents
than anything in which they have
formerly appeared. Pretty girls, love
ly costumes, excellent singing, com
bined with the two clever comedians,
made the play a big success, and no
one went home disappointed. The
comedy was full Of complications,
breezy dialogue and rapid action, in
terspersed with new and original mu-
sic and numerous specialities by the
stars and supporting company.
Some of the song successes were
Leader of the German Band, Ia
zie," "Irish Canary" "My Injun Girl
.Endearing Young Charms In MY
Merry Oldsmobile," Listen to the
Big Brass Band" my Hindoo Man.
'In Dear Old Georgia." I'm the Shad-
ow Of the Pyramid" my Cloe from
Tennessee" "Peezy Weezy." How'd
You Like to Spoon With Me" and
Hiram Green" %
The mail quartette maduiAhsthit OF
the evening In the nnAsical selections,
being called back ten or twelve times:
Murray and Mack are always sure OF
a hearty welcome n a-cTQYded
house In Las Vegas.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
cANAoA SHOWING GREAT -
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

washington, y. C.. January 90
The Canadian government has severed
premises IN. London, says the British
Boasd, Of Trade Journal where an Of.
nee has been opened, under the desig.
nation OF Canadian Government City
Trade Branch" for the convenience
OF che commercial community. It II
intended to maintain a display room,
illustrating the products, resources.
and manufactures Of the Dominion.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Sealed bids will be received by the
undersigned for the grading Of Fifth
street, between Mari street and Baca
avenue, and washington avenue be-
tween Fourth and eighth street. In
the city Of Las Vegas, N. M.
The grading has to he done IN &C
cordance with the plans and specin'
cations on file in my Office.
Forms Of bids and report Of city
engineer showing the approximate
amount Of earth to be moved will b
furnished on application.
All bids must be .nled before Jan
uary "a, 1906.
Gated. City Of Las Vegas. n. n.
this 18th day Of January, 1905.
CHARLES TAMME.
City Clerk.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Western Live stock Show, Amsrt'
can Stock Growers Association, Ne.
tional Live stock Association and M
tlonaI Wool 0rowers' Association, Den
YER, January 2sth TO February 3oth.
For the above occasions, the Santa
Fe will sell excursion tickets to Dem
yer, Colorado Springs and Pueblo 81
rate OF fifteen dollars and nifty cent?
for the round trip. Selling dates, Jan
uary 2Sth, goth and 30th. Final re-
turn limit February 18th. Return trir
cannot. be commenced earlier than
Ave days after date Of sale.
w. J. LUCAS.
Agent.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
Free 70 stockmen.

Any stockman who will ship cattle
hogs or sheep this year may receive
our handsome 1906 Calendar, repre-
senting fox hunting enc done In
water colors, free of charge, by writ
ing us and stating how much stock
you have, when it will be ready FOR
market, to what market will you like
~ ship, and in what paper you saw
this ad. These calendars are worthy
a place In any parlor, and cannot be
secured elsewhere. Address,
CLAY ROBINSON 4 COMPANY,
Stock Yards, kansas City, Me.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

In the meantime a Canadian repre-
sentative attends daily to promote Ca.
madam trade. This Is but one Of nu.
merous evidences Of Canadian COM
mercial activity In promoting trade
that have been brought TO the atten.
ton OF the Department Of Commerce
and Labor recently by The United
States consular agents In various
quarters Of the globe.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Polk Pipkin was up from Fruitland
last Thursday with a petition to the
county commissioners for q franchise
for the Sunset Power and Develop
ment company for right Of way for
a electric road from Pennington to
Fruitland. The commissioners laid
the petition over until the Vel meet.
ing.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Your becoming a depositor OF thu
Plaza Trust and Savings bank VII
not only mark your turning point De
tween success and failure, but vii
assure you Of a competence for sick
ness and old age. 8'lI
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

The McCord-C hapman-Gree Mer
camille company Of Pueblo has sued
the San Juan Stores company Of Az.
tee for 1854 on a bill of goods.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

I have a new line Of ladies caps
and a few advanced spring styles in
ladies' hats. Mrs. Frank Strass, mil.
1-1OG
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Try our new soft lump ceal. Drill.
liant. Las Vegas Light Z Fuel Co.
1906
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Now is the time. One-third on on
Cutlery. Sporting Goods. Skates. Bi'
cycles and Hunting coats, at NJ.
Biehps. 49, !.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Two good heating stoves for sale
cheap at Office of The Investment an0
Agency Corporation. III
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
SOCIAL NOTES
Concluded from page -.

Nearly q hundred people gathered
In the Woodman hall last Monday
evening as the guests OF the Carpen'
ter's union. There Were a number OF
appropriate addresses and lunch was
served.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

FOR SALE.
One Chandler pneumatic speed wag-
on, cast $3.50; will sell for 100000
One G. s. Ellis combination two min
ute track harness, cost, $1.65; will
sell Tor
One handmade tan and web har-
ness
One compound truss sulky, 28-lbs ,
built for IL mile tracks; will sell
for $4,000
Also a, lot OF sweat and cooling suits.
Above are all In first-class shape
and like new. Inquire
r. r. CiRAnDlN,
Phone 418 Vegas, after G p. m.
Catalina Romero Residence, Old
Town. l-9O
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

wANTED-Painter and calciminer.
George r. Hill, Twelfth and National.
10
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

4 line Of fine road wagons at
Cooley's repository viii he sold at re-
.ducet prices. Get q good
for the price OF q cheap one. S'4s
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

w. M. Lewis. undertaken and en-.
balmer, 612 Lincoln Ave., both phones.
So
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Pictures framed to order At 3. X
Dearths' the undertaken. IV-5O
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Among the number Of Las Vegans
Hh0 expect to go over to Santa Fe
tomorrow to attend the inauguration
Monday are Don Eugenio Romero,
District Court Clerk S%ecundino Ro-
nero and Hon. J. 8. Clark.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Las Vegas Art Souvenir on sale a
Optic ONCE.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

rumigating and disinfecting done oy
1886
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

CDR. f. l.. Hammond las returned
and wifi be in his office Monday. lies
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

accompany neT, VIII delur ueT Trip vi
account of the illness Of Mr.. Reynolds.
Mr.. Justin Watts. a wealthy Chi
cago contractor. and his family. were
in the city a short time today, the
guests Of Rev. Richard and Mrs. Nor.
ley. The family were members Of Mr..
Morley's congregation in Chicago.
They are on their way to California.
Mr.. and Mrs. Jas. G. McNary enter
tanned a family party at supper
Thursday evening in honor Of Miss
Pansy Reynolds of Canon City, Colo.
The guests were: Mr.. and Mrs. Hal.
lett Reynolds, Mr.. and Mrs. Edward
Reynolds. Mr.. and Mrs. Jas. Rob-
bins, Miss Pansy Reynolds and Mr..
Jefferson Reynolds.
Mr.. and Mrs. Joshua s. Reynolds
have returned to the city from Boston,
where Mr.. Reynolds met his wifeupon
her return from Europe. Mrs. Ray
nolds and her daughter, Miss May,
spent a year and a half in Florence,
Italy, where the latter pursued her
work in voice culture. The young
lady Is now studying under the fam
GUS Professor Whitney Of Boston.
Primitive Escudero and Filo,nena
Perez de Blanchard were united in
marriage this morning at nine O'Clock
at the church Of Our Lady Of Scr.
rows by Rev. Father Paul Gilbertor.
The happy couple will make their
home ON South Pacific street. The
bride is from one of the Oldest AMI
best families in the territory and the
groom IS we'll and favorably known.
having been long employed as clerSS
In the Mann drug store.
The boys of the west size fire de-
partment are doing some great hust-
ling for their mid-winter carnival ball
to be given on Washington's birthday,
February 22nd. Two prominent CO.'S
tuners will be here from Denver with
the finest line Of costumes ever
brought to this city. Everything will
be done that Is possible to maze it n
success. The ball Is to be the annual
benefit for the E. Romero hose COM
pany. .1u-
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Mrs. T. b. McNair will leave on
the limited tomorrow morning for
Kansas City. Her daughter, Mrs.
Hallett Reynolds. who expected to
accompany her. will delay her trip on
account of the illness of Mr.. Reynolds.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20

Behring's for tents.
Las Vegas daily optic. [volume] (Las Vegas, N.M.) 1880-1908, 1906-01-20
FOR GALE.

Smoke the Elk. ULion made. s.1ss
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-12-14

vation Army, were up from Lewis
town during the week soliciting aid.
They held service in the school house
Tuesday evening.
E. E. Sutter, the Lewistown jeweler
was up as usual on pay day.
Bert d'Autremont, of the Fad shoe
store in Lewistown, made his regular
pay day trip to Kendall Monday.
Jack Brice, representing the Chas.
Lehman store In Lewistown, was in
town as usual on pay day.
T. D. Kinds, proprietor of the Ken
dali Bazaar, has removed his stock
across the street into the corner build
ing where the Palace restaurant was.
Mr.. and Mrs. William Johnson and
son left for Butte where they may re-
main.
Miss Clara Willis is quite i'll at the
Miners Union hospital for the past
week. but her physician does not con-
slider her case dangerous.
P. J. Carter and B. B. Briscoe. both
of Helena, registered at the hotel
Thursday.
s. w. Langdock, of Spokane, is in
town this week on mining business.
E. ]. McRobbie, of Chicago, arrived
Friday stopping at the Shaules.
E. B. Harvey, the cOnfectoner from
Lewistown, paid the camp business
visit Friday.
J. w. Ferguson, of Helena, was in
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-12-14
ROOSEVELT Is HoNoREp.
Norwegian Parliament Confers Nobel
Peace Prize on Him.

Peace Prize on Him.
Christiania, Norway, Dec. 13.-The
Norwegian parliament has conferred
the Nobel peace prize upon President
Roosevelt.
The Nobel peace prize is awarded
to President Roosevelt in recognition
of his services in ending the Russo
japanese war. Candidates for this dis
tinctiOn must be proposed by the leg
islative bodies, peace organizations or
universities. 1t is understood that the
presidents sponsors were Prof. H. X.
Judson, acting president of Chicago
University, Professor Baldwin, of Yale,
Professor Harborger of the University
of Munich, and the faculty of George.
town university, Washington.
The peace prize went last year to
Baroness Won Sutner, of Vienna, and
in previous years to w. II. Creemer
NJ. p, OF England; Professor De Maar
tens of Russia and Henri Dunant
founder of the Red Cross.
The Nobel peace prize is part of {
bequest left by DR.. Alfred Bernard No
bel, the Swedish scientist, who died IL
1896. BY his will large portion O
his fortune was devoted to five an
nual prizes, each valued at about $40,
600. They were awarded FOR the mos
important discoveries in physics, ply
siOlogy or medicine, for the most dis
tinguished work of an idealistic ten
dency in the field of literature and fo
the best effort toward the fraternit!
of nations and the promotion of peace
The last named is awarded by the Nor
wegian parliament.
The others are awarded by institu
tiOnS at Stockholm.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-12-14
A BEAUTIFUL SOUVENIR.
Beauties Of Fergus County and Lew
istoWn Shown at a Glance.

Beauties of Fergus County and Lew
istown Shown at a Glance.
The most beautiful and striking SOU
venir of Fergus county and LewistOwn
ever put out has just been issued by
Herbert litter, of this city. 1t Is
handsomely bound collection of ar
tistic views, reproduced from photos,
printed by the famous Albertype COM
pany, of Brooklyn, N. Y, with a suit.
able introduction. There are sixteen
sheets of these views, representing
various sections OF the great Inland
Empire, Kendall and Gilt Edge being
given prominent place while Maid
en-, Yogo and other districts receive
attention. 1t would be difficult to find
a more suitable or handsome remind
er of the Judith Basin than Mr.. Tit
ters compilation of views, so artis-
ticall reproduced, and presented in
such an attractive form. The cover
design is especially striking, and Mr..
litter is to be congratulated upon hav-
ing produced something entirely
worthy of this great region. One Of
these souvenirs sent to relatives and
friends will not only give them good
idea of this section of Montana, but
give them pleasure as well. The little
volume is thing Of beauty. 1t will be
on sale at Harvey's.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-12-14
TRAINS AND STAGES BOTH DELAYED

Traffic by both rail and stage has
been considerably delayed during the
past few days. A small freight wreck
on the Montana Railroad Tuesday
was responsible for delayed trains
both ways on that line, but the
trouble resulting from accident has
now been overcome. 1t appears that
freight train had been split at Har-
lowton, and half of the train taken
to the Y at Ubet. The engine with a
caboOse attached, was backing to
Harlowton, when at about 5 O'Clock
Tuesday morning both left the rails
in deep cut one mile west of Roberta.
between Garneill and Harlowton. Both
We're entirely off, and the engine was
nearly on it's side, one set of drivers
being on the ties, while the other set
was In the mud. A wrecking crew was
brought from Lombard without delay,
but it took them nearly all day to get
the engine righted. The outgoing pas
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-12-14
RYAN GETS YEAR
in PENITENTIARY
Young Man Convicted OF Receiving Stolen Horses
From Hedican- Jury Out Several Hours--Hed-
ican to be Sentenced Next Week.

After trial extending over four
days. and long struggle in the jury
room. the twelve men sworn to try
John B. Ryan, of Gilt Edge, on the
charge of receiving stolen horses
from Barney Hedican, knowing them
to have been stolen, found him guilty,
and fixed the penalty at one year in
the penitentiary. At least one novel
legal proposition was developed dur
ing the trial, and upon it an appeal
will be taken. This is the claim Of
the defense that the jury was drawn
from the panel for the September
term OF court, while the case was ac-
tually tried during the December
term.
On the first ballot the jury stood Z
for conviction and for acquittal
The trial of Ryan did not begin FRI.
day afternoon, as was expected would
be the case the defense insisting that
Ryan should be allowed the time pre-
scribed by the statute before proceed.
ing to trial.
Judge Cheadle granted the motion
but commented severely upon the &C
tion of the attorneys for the defense
after, as he said, they had agreed in
the morning to waive the statutory
rights and proceed in the afternoon
The case was then reset for Monday
morning. When the case was at last
taken up for trial, the defense put in
| challenge to the regular panel oil
jurors, on the general ground that il
was the panel for the September tern
of court, while, in fact. the December
term was then on.
| Judge Cheadle Overruled the objec
ton, and in the afternoon disposed o
challenge to the special panel in the
same way. His honor reviewed the
proceedings briefly, saying that on the
Friday previous, the defense agreed
to waive time and plead not guilty
| After some discussion between the
court and counsel as to the setting O.
the case, upon the courts assurance
that time would be given for pro
curing all the witnesses required BY
the defense, the case was set for tria
at 2 p. m. of that day.
Regardless of the previous agree
ment between the court and counsel
the defense, at o'clock, intrposed the
defendants statutory right The cast
had, however, then been set. How
far the agreement made might affeC
this somewhat novel proposition hi
honor was not prepared to say.