The Birmingham age-herald., 1906-03-24
.SPOONER FINISHES
 RATE BILL SPEECH
TiIIman Also Speaks on the
 Measure
WILL ERECT POWDER PLANT
MT. Daniel Contends That the Nation Is at Present at the Mercy of the Powder
 Trust.

Washington March 23.-Mr. spooner to- day concluded his speech in the Senate on the railroad rate bill, and the fortifica- ton appropriation bill was taken up and l passed The bill carries an appropriation 1 of s125,OoO for the erection of powder manufactory, and Mr. Daniels spoke at length In support of the provision. He declared that the nation was entirely at the mercy of powder trust, and urged that the amendment should be adopted as a safeguard As passed, the bill car ries an appropriation of sa27S,993 l MT. Tillman also spoke on the rate bill, suggesting that the interstate commerce commission should have authority to en- l join the railroads from increasing their rates. He said the suggestion had been
 made by "cornfeld" lawyer in Okla homa
 MT. Culberson's resolution calling upon the war department for further informa- ton relative to the Mount Dajo battle was adopted
 Spooner on Rate Bill
 MT. Spooner declared that under the i fifth amendment to the constitution the circuit courts could not be deprived of the right to issue temporary injunctions. Under that provision, he said, the doors of the court were necessarily open to the carrier, and could not be shut against him.
 "There is no power on earth that can take away from the Senator from South | vfcrlt fa in court" asserted Mr. spooner.
 "Why, Mir President, if there is not 5000 at stake. cannot even get into the federal courts," responded MT. Tillman. Does the Senator consider that an an swer to what l was about to say?' re- torted MT Spooner and then declined to yield further while he went on with argu- ment inteded to show that the carrier as well as the shipper was entitled to the laws protection. Again when MT. Spooner had returned to a discussion of the constitutionality of the measure Mir Tilman sought to interrupt, but the Wis consn senator would not yield. "ls not the question raised, serious one?' he asked.
 ''The Senator won't let me interrupt, so l cannot answer said MT Tillman.
 Mir Spooner closed with reference to the danger which he believed exists of invaldatng the rate bill by the adoption of the Bailey amendment. Tillman Makes Complaint.
 When Mr Spooner took his seat MT. Tilman complained of the fact that he had not been permitted to ask questions. and Mir Spooner said that it had been due to illness that he had declined to consent to the interruptions. MT. Tillman said he would accept those grounds but again said that it was a departure from the usual courtesy
 "Why, the senator knows that 1 have not made a speech in three years that one-half of 1t has not been given over to him. retorted Mir Spooner. MT Tillmans argument was that if 1t were not for dstrust of the federal judges and the arbitrary and tyranical , way in which they aired their powers, there would be no occasion for an amend ment to the rate bill to curtail their au- thorlty to issue iniunctions. He launched into a general indictment of the federal bench from the Potomac southward and westward
 "I want to ask the senator if he has any reference to Judge Golf of West Vir ginia 2" asked MT. Scott, and MT Tillman said he had not mentioned Judge Golf nor any one else.
 But he has referred to the federal bench generally" pursued MT. Scott, and he must, therefore have reference to Judge Golf"
 The West Virginia senator defended the West Virginia bench hotly. and MT. Till man again told him that he should wait until an attack had been made. He re- ! ferred to the Pennsylvania case that has been mentioned many times in the debate, and Mir. Scott rididuled his frequent eom- ment
 "A good case if true is worth q thousand T To l if the senator wishes it, I will furnish 1 him a catalogue of some home affairs be- l fore I get through
 l T suppose the senator refers. to another l letter from Governor Dawson" comment ed MT. Scott, sarcatiealy. ''I suppose the senator feeels aggrieved because the letter was not sent to him." said MT Tlllman. Continuing he said that he had not intended to get into an unpleasant controversy when he said that the people had lost faith in federal judges. Pausing for a moment, he said: But I repeat it'i He admitted that he might bo wrong in many instances, but said that he knew he was right in many others. Ridiculed as a CornfieId Lawyer.
 Taking up the colloquy he had with Mir. Spooner yesterday, he said the senator from Wisconsin had ridiculed him as a "cornheld lawyer"
 Why, I got that from the senator him self" said Mir. Spooner. "Oh. that Is my phrase, 1 own it." said Mir. Tillman. But the senator ridculed any advice I might give, as much as to say you are a nin- compoop, sit down." " Reading from a letter he received from man he termed a "cornheld' or a
 cotton patch' lawyer from Norman, okla, MT. Tillman said: Now this man wants to know why if you can enjoin the lowering of rate. why it is not possible to enjoin the rais- ing of a rate,''
 He followed this up with a number of other questions taken from the letter and said that the answer was:
 What Is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander"
 Looking at Mir. spooner the senator said:
 Now 1 represent the goose and the senator from Wisconsin is speaking for the .gander.
 MT. Spooner interrupted and MT. Till man said that if he wanted to follow the example he had been set. he might de- cline to yield, but that in reality he wei comed the Interruption. Of course, he said the senator from Wisconsin has explained his refusal and then he probably wanted to get off one dull speech unilluminated 1I,,,,, ,ie,,c