The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1906-04-13
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CHEAT He Says 81 Y !.
Foraker Discusses Rate Bill and
Assails Review Provision 1t
Contains.
.LATTIMER AND LODGE l'I SPEAK
Former Declares Capitalization
Has Placed Dcspotic Power III
Hands Of Railroads.
LATTIMER AND LODGE SPEAK
lRy Associated Press.l

WASHINGTON, y. c., April 12.--Aftet
q brief speech by Mr.. Lntimcr in sup
port Of the House railroad rate bill MIR.
Foraker to-day took the floor on that
measure and consumed practically all Of
the remainder Of the days session. He
spent some time In the discussion OF some
OF the amendments he has suggested to
sideratlon Of the entire question OF rail-
road ratio regulation, urging again the
,nconstltutonality of the pending bill
ficm various points of view. He was
frequently interrupted BY other senators.
Mr.. Lodge spoke briefly IN support OF
Il the practice Of granting lower rates on
goods intended for export than on those
used In domestic consumption.
Railroad Trusts.
Mr.. Lntimcr. III his speech said that at
the present time seven corporations con-
troll practically all Of the railroads Of
the country md no argument Is neccs-
sary to convince a thinking man that this
consolidation means the elimination Of
z competition and the placing Of despotic
power In the hands Of q few men.
Charging that consolidation Of trans
portation facilities has reached Il climax
:. where the people are powerless to pre-
vent abuse OF railroad power, he said
he would be glad to see the pending
d bill pass With an amendment distinctly
fortbidding any interference BY courts
with the work of the commission.
would be unconstitutional he believed,
would have to be decided by the SUI
preme Court Hc thought that any re-
( strlction Of the authority OF the com
( mission would impair It's work and that
It would be better to pass q law giving
final authority to the commission and
let the Supreme Court OF the United
i situation as 1t may develop by constt-
tutonal amendment, or by modification
OF the law. II need be.
Vote for Pending Bill.
Summarizing what he believed TO be
the legislative situation OF the pending
measure, Mr.. Lntimer said
Il am led TO believe, however, from
the discussions that have taken place
here In the House, that we will be
unable to pass the pending bill without
providing for a review by tho courts.
This being true. we should pass the bill
in such form as will MS nearly as possible
accomplish tho desired end. 1t is OF the
highest Importance that ne should enact
a law mt this session Of. this Congress-.
& The people are demanding Immediate re-
ilef,Hand, not being able to secure what J
# believe the conditions demand, I shall
vote for the pending Dill with such
i amendments as tend 1 q oaissafeguards
A around the work of the commsision.
II the courts are to have the power
to review the findings OF the commits
sion, am in favor OF LIMITING that power
by denying them the right to Issue inter-
1ocutory orders.
While Mr. Foraker was speaking Mr..
Tillman said there were still several
speeches to be made on the bill. He
thought the last Of these would be de-
llvered some time next week. and thae
then a day for voting could be agreed
Upon. He again said that he would ask
that some time In advance OF the final
vote be given to the consideration Of tho
bill, section by section.
Speech Of Foraker.
Mr.. Foraker then discussed his amend
ment. giving complainants the alterna.
tive OF taking their cases into the courts
In preference to the Interstate Commerce
Commission. He declared that the pend
lng bill was not satisfactory to anyone,
and that II not amended, 1t would pre-
sent many constitutional difficulties
In reply TO Mr.. Macon. Mr.. Foraker
said that, when a case gets before a
court, 1t will become necessary to go
Into the entire case. He would have
broad review.
"Doec the Senator mean that in the erd
the court. instead OF the commission.
would In effect fix the rates?" asked Mr.
Bacon. Mr.. Foraker denied that such
was his purpose. The only question that
a court could decide would be rs to
whether a given rate was Just and req.
SCRABBLE He declared that "a grca Ter
cheat and humbug" could not be- cor
ceived than the review suggested In tho
bill. '
MI. Foraker did not believe In a flat
mileage rate as suggested by Mr.. Tlll-
man, and In case OF such legislation. he
feared the results would be q serious mat
for the strawberry growers of South
Carolina and the peach growers Of
Georgia.
Mr. Tillmnn declared that although
peach grower himself he was willing to
take the chances on q flat rate. FIe be-
lieyed 1t to be in accordance with the
Declaration of Independence He said
there would be no danger Of competition
In Southern peaches, because he said,
''the peaches Of, Georgia are done and
gone and alto UP before the Delaware
peaches get into the market"
"Ill stand and die by the proposition
that It is wrong to charge the same rate
on peaches from Delaware to New York
that is charged on them from South
Carolina to New York" he added,
Reference to Tariff.
Mr.. Foraker said that the manufao-
turing Industries Of the West and also
of the South were very prosperous and
Mr.. Tillman responded that this was true
Of the South despite the Determinations
Of the tariff and Of railroad rates.
It looked for time AS II the debate
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