The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1906-03-03

suit. Henry Stuart at once said-cr,mr
was not there; he had gone down M
river-my idea was to give him tho
charges. Fairfax says no; he had noticed
tnat language about purely Official IN
mere. lie saw what 1t meant He said
consult a lawyer to see whether or M,
we have right to give them tbas.
charges. And they consulted Mr.. Hun
ION, ana afterwards consulted the Attor.
ney-General. They were informed hv
counsei-rrst by Mr.. Hunton and after.
wards by the Acknowledgements tba.
these charges were privileged. and they
snouid not give them out without con-
s"st'hs me interests and rights OF their
c'e I'm VINO would be JeopardIzed by II.
stuart Is so anxious to give our as
much as he can that he suggests Ia MI.
lnwyer well. II Upshur agrees to II we
can let them go out. can't we? oh. YES
let them go out n he agrees to II. Tiihn
after Judge Crump comes back. stuart
and Fairfax having agreed beforehand nm
what they shall suggest to Upshur. call
nun in-this nervous. physical wreck
as heard 1t said
The Chairman: I don't think that lis
proper way to characterize Mr. Upshur.
He has no counsel here, don't think
mat style OF statement adds anything
to the clearncss
Shown Mr.. Royal the Door.
Mr.. carter: Very well, sir. They called
him In and his first statements when
told that Royal had been there was
this: III had been commissioner and
such request as that had been made
OF me. would have shown Mr.. Royall
to the door, That showed some undue
excitement.
Then Stuart suggests to him that as
Royal had called for the charges. and
as the charges are matters that he can
probably prove. 1t Will do no harm to
present them to him-give them to him;
and Mt Mr.. upshur's request. then pre-
ierred. goes over and marks out GER
tain things which he says were denun-
Citations and opinions and statements a.
to other people not connected with the
suit that Royal intended bringing.
There was nothing improper in that sug-
gestion, because the statement was
made that We will say to Royal in our
communication. that we furnish him the
charges contained in the report. but
withheld the balance of the report.
Perfectly frank and fair.
Mr. Upshur left after expressing a de.
sire to take that matter under considera.
ton and then comes the first letter,
believe. which winds up with the state.
mcnt. III YOU feel called upon TO assist
Mr. Lanier in his suit. prefer that yor
call him in again. and say. You have
mi understood us. We are not wanting q
assist Major Lanicr. but we are wanting
10 get as much of this paper into the
hands OF the public as 1t is possible to
get. with your consent. and which We
think we can do without injury to you.
He again writes letter. which cslis forth
the first letter from this commission, in
which they use this language: 1T was
further stated TO you by US that II you
preferred that the entire report should
be delivered to Mr.. Royal, that your
wishes In that regard should be re pected.
and that our suggestions were to some
extent prompted by the consideration that
in the event of litigation between you
and Mr.. Lanicr 1t would be much better
for you to stand on the charges pre-
ferred against Lanier, than upon these
outside statements"
What was there in that but a sugSes-
ton 10 this gentleman that II you don't
want us to give out all. let us give
out at least some--but It is for you to
say whether we shall give all or none?
He again writes a letter. to which they
make further reply informing him of the
attorney-generals decision, and saying
that they want him TO have the option
and privilege of furnishing these charges.
or any portion OF them, to Major Lanier.
as he pleases: so that all his mystery, all
his concealment-all this thing that
caused this nine months wonder In the
State, arises. IL the committee please.
from the refusal of Upshur to give out
those charges.
Mr.. Carter Concludes.
After speaking of the high ground tho
members OF the commission had taken
all along, Mr.. Carter said in conclu-
sion.
Now, Mr.. Chairman. there IS pending.
and will soon be before this commission
the most important work which has yet
come before them. They have for year
or more been gathering the information
and preparing the ammunition with which
they are to call down the common car
riers of this State, and see that their
rates are not improperly adjusted. You
saw those two volumes here. which We're
gotten without waiting those three years
that Mr.. upshur thought would be neces-
sarv before they could get It.
They are about ready. and I think neU
month is the time set for the hearing
I sav that no word or act unless the
evidence demands 1t In this case-oi
course, IL it does. then it must come
no word or act should he spoken by thu
members of the Legislature OF Virginia Il
weaken their hands, or strike them down
Az they are entering upon this, the first
against corporate greed and corporate
wealth; and say that. say that rep
resenting the people of Virginia, ] do not
mean to say that the railroad companies
are charging more than they ought.
don't know. But 1t Is matter that ought
ia he carefully examined and inquired
into, and that the body that does y
should have the countenance and respect
and the support of every true lover OF
his Commonwealth. Take one of these
men out, and how long would 1t take
a new man of study and acquire the In
formation which years and years of pa
lent study enables them now to bring
10 this issue. don't mean to say that
OH will remove the mani don't think
hero is any question of that sort at all
q he considered-but II you reflect In
your% report upon any of these men, OF
course, there is danger of his retiring
from the commission. l do not mean to
say that this evidence requires you TO
10 this thingt-be the consequences what