The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1906-11-02

or Dublin In which lie Points Out a
This Land OF the Trusts Is . Pretty
GOOD Place for the W~orkIngman
-Labor's Friend Is Tammany. Not
Hearst-Cant Understand the Present
Deal and Why . True JerersOnIan
Democrat, SulEer. Was Ignored for
a Man VINO Denounced Ills Present
Allies as Fit for state Prison.
Special Cable Despatch 10 The SUN,
DUBLIN, Nov. THE FTeemdn's Journal
Of Dublin prints an interview with Richard
Croker in which Mr.. Croker said:
Il believe that if Mr.. Hearst wins and
carries Gut his programme 1t will have
the eject of paralyzing labor. 1t will
p~sralyze capital, and when you paralyze
capital you paralyze labor. l am assuming
when l say tina that he will carry out his
purpose after election.
Their is no capitalist in America who
does not want to make at least 4 per
cent. on his money. II Mr.. Hearst's ideas
are carried out capitalists will he COM
relied to invest their money in Government
bonds and stocks. That would be a great
injustice to labor. Labor must have capital
in order to be successful
Asked how labor organizations in America
regard trusts, Mr.. Croker replied:
The labor organizations are themselves
combinations or, IL you like, trusts What
the labor organizations have to do is to
keep up their organizations and stand by
them. There will then be no fear but
that they will benefit themselves. Labor
organizations ought to be educated. So as
not to be led away by false allegations
regarding particular trusts. All depends
on the trust. II you combine business
some people say il will impure labor, but
very often il helps labor.
Look at the men who go to America,
the land OF trusts. See how they get on.
Not 1 per cent. OF them come back, and
most OF those who do return with money.
Does not that speak well for America
There is no country to-day in which the
workingman is doing so well az in America.
Then when the American wOrkingman is
30 much better of is not that proof Of the
soundness Of the system? The trust sys-
TEN il not bad except in some cases. II
it gives employment to labor and cheap
prices in the retail market then l say it ia
a good thing. II it does not, it is bad. Let
the ~workingmen's organizations consider
the question carefully and make up their
minds and everything will be right
Discussing Tammany Halls support OF
Mr.. Hearst, Mr.. Croker said it was a most
astonishing and most unprincipled perform
ance for Tammany to turn its delegation
over to Mr.. Hearst when he had accused
them all Of being thieves and pictured them
as going to States prison, and to ignore
that true Jeffersonian Democrat, Mr.. Sui
yer. a man thoroughly mbued with the
pure Democratic principles Of jefferson.
and a sound, consistent Tammany man.
He added:
Il cannot understand It at all. / cannot
understand why Mr.. Murphy would allow
the organization to depart from its recog-
nized principles. II Mr.. Murphy was at
the head Of a conspiracy, as Mr.. Hearst
says he was last year, how can Hearst now
justify himself by taking Mr.. Murphy into
his confidence. That being 30, why should
he not forgive Mr.. Rockefeller and the rest
Of the magnates provided they support him.
Would IL not be better for Tammany to be
defeated fighting for q principle than TO
dishonor itself by outraging the principles
Of Jeferson7'
Questioned regarding what he had to say
concerning Justice DAILY, Mr.. Croker an
swered:
This talk about dividing Judges. that
Hearst and Murphy indulge in. we have
heard before. There is nothing in il. Justice
fulfilled his promise as a true Democrat,
and the person nominated and elected
was a better Democrat and a better law yer.
7 challenge them to point out airy fault in
any Judge we elected in New York in the
last thirty years. Our Judges are upright
Jealous men, and that is the best Of New
York and Tammany.
Il hope the ~workingmen's organizations
will work together and make up their minds
together before they give their votes, and
not be misled by wild talk. II they stand
by, each in his own union in every trade,
there need be no fear.
"Tammany has always had the support
ri the workingmen Of New York because