New-York tribune., 1906-07-31
At ODDS OVER THAW.
wOTHER AND WIFE OUT.
Quarrel BeLered to Strengthen
Hartndge's Position as Counsel.

,sfvreen Mrs. Wliiiain AhaN, the mother, and
-. Evelyn Thaw the wife. OF Harry Kendall
ssaw. who killed Stanford White. took place
--.-+sraay st the Tombs prison Until yester-
- The two women. in spite OF rumors to the
..+rsrv had made public demonstrations Of
.-a,rion. but yesterday, after an hours confer
- with the prisoner. they became so estranged
- enbittered that they did not speak and. I'm
49, avoided each other
-. break between the two women. the
,.s,nsship Of whom has been one Of the main
-..-s for young Thaw. makes it possible to out
- the defence's attitude more exactly. be-
Sc -he rupture makes less probable the cast
- n the influence Of Mrs. Evelyn Thaw in
.,r n the insanity plea Clifford w Hart
.s.-s as counsel for Thaw. is strengthened
...rsbv. Ex-Judge William NJ. K Olcott and
-.-srce NcNanus. the counsel retained by
-, William Thaw after they had been dis
.-,.sss Av Thaw are likely TO lose all standing
:, he case
ne case Il Is said. VIII now go to trial with
-, anv attempt being made any ones part
! prsvert. or any plea whatever. Emotional
,.sonity viii he the defence's ground for urging
rhsws acquittaI
-rbs effort of Mrs. William Thaw yesterday to
~ 70 induce her son to accept Mr.. Olcott and
.laU him 70 make a motion for lunacy COM
--;ssion net with such violent and abusive de-
annexation and positive refusal that she has
,ven up the idea once and for ALL and from
nov on VII work only 70 do what she can to
ave her son from the ignominy of death by
sls-trocution.
In spite n the reports that she was prostrated
,stb gries because her son had not accepted her
Nan for his defence. Mrs William Thaw ac-
ranled by her daughter. Mrs. George Lauder
carnegie called or Thaw at the usual visiting
-fne yesterday. appearing in better physical
roudiiion than ia some days. Mrs. Harry Thaw
hss called hut few minutes before. Clifford
4. Hartri5ge counsel FOR Thaw. also conferred
With the prisoner and hts wife for a short time
Ms Wfliam Thaw. Mrs. Carnegie and Mrs
Harry Thaw had been with the prisoner for
about forty-fve minutes. when Mrs Harry Thaw
rushed downstairs and told the keeper at the
esae that she desired 10 telephone. The use Of
ne prison telephone is against the rules but
Warden Fly-ln was absent, and the keeper when
tod that the case was one of great importance.
granted her request Warden Flynn later was
much annoyed AT the violation OF the rules.
Mrs Thaw evidently telephoned to Mr.. Hart
ridge as ten minutes had hardly elapsed when
". Har1ridee and Roger O'AIara, the Pittsburg
detective. rushed into the Tombs and demanded
70 see Thav.
Just prior 70 their arrival Mrs. William Thaw
Mrs Harry Thaw approaching and stepped
quickly into the searching room and avoided
as-. There was absolutely no recognition on
any ones part and Mrs. Harry Thaw took the
TWO men upstairs. She appeared much agitated
ard ~ great perturbation. Mrs. William Thaw,
while she had entered absolutely self-possessed
and looking stronger than in days. had tear
aained face and showed evidences of having
passed through a painful scene. She was sup
ported by Mrs Carnegie. They drove to the
Lorraine where they had engaged apartments
uher than those engaged by the prisoners wife
later in the day they conferred with Mr. Olcott
a the Lorraine and then returned to Roslyn.
Mrs. Harry Thaw talked very earnestly TO
0Wara before he went to see the prisoner. and
read him TWO letters which she carried shaking
them in his face and appearing much excited.
Mrs. Thaw nervous and excited when
she came downstairs again that she insisted
she would remain until the dinner hour was
passed 50 that she could see her husband again.
i required the combined efforts of O'Mara and
Hartridge 10 make her change her mind and
consent - returning later in the afternoon. She
I'D not return however but instead went 10
the Lorraine. where she denied herself TO all
Who wished 10 see her.
Shortly after the trouble at the Tombs Mr..
Harrldge issued the following somewhat am
hguous statement:
Clifford v. Hartridge announces that there
s-e no detectives working in Pittsburg be-
naf Of MI Harry X. Thaw, or IN his interests,
except such may he employed by or con-
nected wiki ex-Chief Roger O'Mara.
Thaw was so upset by the quarrel Of the
morning that be refused to take his exercise in
the prison yard. and kept TO the corridors.
Il IS understood that the quarrel among the
three women viii once and for all make them
enemies as regards the defence's plea Mrs.
William Thaw and Mrs. Carnegie have allied
themselves in every way possible against Mrs.
possibly circumvent any move the
psrt of clifford n. Hartrfdge But Mr.. Hart
n0ge, II is conceded. has the whip hand, and is
Ae attorney Of record, and as such has the
entire right 20 make whatever defence he de-
sres. Mr.. Hsrtridge has won the entire con-
noence and good viii of ThaW by following his
Mlnutest instructions and not opposing him in
aIy way. EX-Judge Olcott is persona non grata
with every one except Mrs William Thaw. He
s9li continues 10 do whatever he can to aid
IhaV-, dur his influence II is said viii amount
70 practically nothing when the case is called.
! Is understood that Mr.. Hartridge's idea OF
oefence Is 70 blacken in every way possible
ne reputation Of Stanford White. He has de-
tscliVes searching every nook and corner OF
whites past, digging up every point that may
snow White in an unenViable light, and thus
&c some ground for Thaw's action But. It is
sso such evidence cannot be offered at the trial,
u a. least cannot be admitted, as it will not
Be relevant
The prosecution. through Assistant District
attorney Garvan. worked hard yesterday on the
use Mr.. f5arvan returned in the morning from
hartford. Il Is understood that he failed TO
sss william Srurgis. the friend OF ThaW, and
&C not get any further evidence. Mr.. Garvan
attitude IN the case is understood TO be for
Flal and 70 oppose any lunacy commission.