The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1906-05-17
BOTH RELIGION
AND POLITICS. J
Declared Influence at
the Eastern State
~ Hospital.
DOCTOR SOUTHALL
WAS VERY BLUNT
Answered Questions Promptly
and Without Reservation-Mr.
# Texas Cloves, Declared En-
emy Of the superintend-
ent, Was Long on
the Stand.
Especial to Tho Times- Dispatch.)

Especial to Tho Times Dispatch)
WILLIAMSBURG, May 1G-The invc5-
tgation o. the Eastern state Hospital
to-day brought OH, many intresting state
sments on the part OF Dr. Southall, second
assistant physician. and Of Mr.. Texas
q Cloves, formerly an attendant at the In.
sAitutIon. These two twitrtesses ytEe
the only ones examined during the day.
Or. southall told his story In no uncer-
tain terms. for he is blunt and positive,
never hcsltating for minute. but an
swcring straight out from the shoulder.
He again stated that 1t was his opn-
ion that politics and church dissensions
were responsible for his being reduced
from first to second assistant physician.
AT one point In his testimony the Wit
ness said: s
s"Religion and politics should have no
part in the affairs OF this hospital, and
It is a shame that 1t is 30 #
Continuing, DR.. eouthal said that the
cause Of his rupture with DR.. Foster.
the superintendent. was account OF the
diet furnished the patients. He thought
It should be better. The witness then
explained his idea OF the proper treat
mcnt of cpleptics, and then described
how they were cared for now at the
Eastern State Hospital.
DIR. Southal, in answer to a question,
said that the Central (negro) Hospital
was better in regards attendants than
the Williamsburg (white) Hospital. and
continuing, stated that the Eastern State
Hospital was not UP to date. a. q,
Cause of Vernlin.
In speaking Of the vermIn In the Mon
sague building Or. southali sa,d the
hall was improperly built and badly ar
ranged. and told how he had called at
+ tention to this state OF affairs to the
special board. 0 "a s{$ Isl
1t was so badly constructed that water
Il Stlrlpped through from floor to floor. he
4 said, and that uncleanly habits OF pa
tients led to disgusting resus,.
.EGA WitnessE stated that he personally faY-
ored the use OF stralght-jackets and con-
sdered their use absolutely necessary.
Or. Southall then enumerated num-
ber OF recent attempts on the part OF
patients to commit suicide since the use
OF straight Jackets had been abolished.
On being questioned regarding the Bell
suicide, for which the hospital authors
ties had been condemned By the coroner
tury. the witness related OF SUBSEQUENT
investigation by the board ana o. reso- ESQ.
luton that was passed acqutting INC
authorities.
Mr.. 'Oud here asked II the members
nf the board we're not hospital authors
H ~ p p
ties.
Dr.. Sou,llal, In answer TO ~ question,
related the circumstances surrounding
The death OF a patient named Hanford'
which he declared was not suicide.
The startling portion OF DR.. SDuthalIs
testimony was that which related to a
pledge he was required to sign before
he was elected second assistant physl-
c,an. This pledge was dictated by Mr..
cloves, member of the special board.
Bound Hand and Foot.
witness stated that after signing that
n,edpe he felt that he was bound hand
ana foot, and could not bring anything
ia the attention Of the board OF dlrec-
tors.
1T is a og day when the board
,neets,'' said DR.. Southall, alluding "
the decacies purchased for those occa-
sons.
+,,o s,,nerintendent, and said that he had
more than he could do.
The hospital he said, was far 100
crowded for either health or safety
In abiding to his testimony OF yesler-
day. Dr.. Southal said that he consd-
cred the use Of one bath for several pa
tients proper. Fle also said that ne hnd
been misduoted IN the nulnner OF leii'lte .'1
M tients lie had ordered "ducked. -
had only one female patient duckcd, and
this was to tuuiet high hyserical excite
mont. IT relieved her. had no shower.
hath japparatus then. The other pa
tents tducied were male
Dr. southal then left the stand and
Chairman Satller called Dr. Foster. Col
onel Iawless, counsel for Or. roster
obiectea TO his client being put on me
stand at this time, saying that " fos,
Ter was being nssailed and that ne h.Nl
the right to hear the charges before no
answered them. Personally lie said, Dr'
Foster preferred to put an END 10 the
slandernus stories at once, but that ne
felt It vas proper to wait untll the eNl-
dence was all In,
The committee held mn executive, ses'
sion and the chair was not sustalllen'
Messrs. Rison, Dunn, Pnlliam ana Kop'
erts voting to allow DR.. Foster TO appear
on the stand at the end Of the 'nVes''' 'nV
cation. y g,
Mr.. Texas Glove.
In the afternoon MIR. Texas Cloves, an
uncle of Mr. Eugene Cloves, FORMER
member Of the special board and an
avowed enemy OF DR., Foster vas PVT
upon tho stand Mr.. Cloves told OF ms
connection with the hospital since 1851
as n farmer, fireman and then rs n spe-
clal attendant OF Mr.. Peyton Conway,
who he said was handcuffcd and clothed
only in q shirt.
The witness told of his difficulty with
Or. Foster, whom he had defeated In
politics, and who had, he said, written
slandero,s letters about him. A fight
ensued, in which bar Of iron and 4.
knife were used, Dr F'-ter was In
i,lred and since that time the Witness
and the superintendent had not spoken,
MIR. Cloves told of the frequent use Of
straight Jackets and of cruelty and pun
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