The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1906-10-25
MATHOTP OKES UP PARKHURST
HTNTSTHAT IT'S III TRULY GOOD
WHO OWN THE EVIL HOUSES.
''Namesl Names!" Cries the Preacher. and
MathOt Promises 10 Furnish Names NE
Questions I'm Court TO P~arIhurst. who
Promises TO Give Up His Evidence.

Questions I'm Court to Parkhurst' VINO
Promises to Give Up His Evidence.
We've upset one city government. We
can do it again il it is necessary, eh1' re-
marked the Rev. DR.. Charles Fl. Parkhurst
yesterday afternoon to Frank Moss. u
for the Society for the Prevention Of Crime.
Mr.. Moss beamed upon his clerical client
with affirmative ~benevolenoe which said rs
plainly as words could say it that such a
task would indeed be easy.
DR.. Parkhurst made his remark at the
close OF a private hearing before Magistrate
Mayo In the Jefferson Market court. Deputy
Police Commissioners Mathot had obtained
a subpoena requiring the presence there
OF the clergyman to make good his state
ment made in a recent letter to Mayor
Mcclellan tina his society had evidence
OF the existence in certain police precincts
OF ~poolrooms, houses OF prostitution and
other illegal resorts. This evidence Mr..
Mathot proposed to extract from DR.. Park
hurst by process OF examination. But the
clerical criminologist did not go upon the
witness stand and most Of the proceedings
took the form Of red hot remarks that passed
DeJWoeu Nl6 DCputy
Frank Moss, who Is an ex-commissioner.
Mr.. Moss said that a subpoena was need
Iese, as DR.. Parkhurst and he were perfectly
willing to give the Police Department all the
information in their possession. Whereupon
Mr.. Mathot said that that was all he wanted
and withdrew the subpoena. But this con-
clusion was not reached until Mr.. Moss
had violently attacked the present adj
.tA-g- "a A. lonarfuaapt and Mr.
Mathot had come back sharply at the re-
formers.
why aid the Deputy Commissioner,
after Mr.. Moss had declared that his society
knew Of illegal resorts still running In the
district around the West Side branch OF
the Y. NJ. G. A., Il ave records In my office
that show that members and leading lights
OF your society are the owners and agents
OF houses of prostitution in that very dis
trict.'
DR.. Parkhurst flushed with anger and
almost rose from his chair. Frank Moss
Ieaped TO his feet in haste to deny the &C
cusation. but Magistrate Mayo interrupted
to say that all this was aside from the pur-
pose of the inquiry. The subpoena had
been withdrawn by mutual agreement and
the hearing was therefore at an end.
But the matter did not end there. Az
soon as the Magistrate rose DIR. P~arkhurst
approached Mr.. Mathot and in a voice
trembling with anger said;
you have made certain u~nwarrantable
accusations. We demand that you pro-
duce the Names
YES added Mr.. Moss, you've made
statements you can't back up. You've got
to produce the names"
"Of course / haven't got them here. But
I've got them at my office and I'll send them
to you, " retorted Mr.. MAthot.
Afterward Mr.. Mathot said that he did
not moan TO say that member Of the Society
for the Prevention Of Crime owned houses
of prostitution, but that men prominent in
Y. NJ. c. A. work and in reform work gen
orally, as we'll as men high in the sociaI
life of the city, owned or were agents foI
such houses. At mis- Office he mentioned
sew eral OF these names. He declared tina
he would surely keep his promise to send a
list OF them to DR.. P~arkhurst. He told
the Magistrate that any representative Of
the Y. M. c. A. would admit that the de
partment had given them all the assistance
possible. "They agreed with me-" he de-
clared, that you can't stop prostitution
unless you can get legislation that will
reach the householder"
After the hearing was over DR.. Parkhurs
harangued the reporters upon the theme
OF the degeneracy and general incompe'
tence Of the Police Department.
The letter l sent the Mayor" said he
was primarily an indictment OF the Polic'
Department, and the phenomenal police
activity Of the last five days furnishes
astounding proof Of the ~soundness OF oui
contentious. A newspaper which may be
taken as authority for what transpires in thu
Police Department said yesterday that'th'
night before the lid had been put on In tn
TenderIoin. Now. the lid couldn't have beer
put on IL 1t hadn't been taken of. Thu
game newspaper said that Capt. HerlihJ
had been sweeping Harlem. Now. there
nothing to sweep except dirt. For TIKI
great department, with t1S 900 900 a year
and 5000 men. to lean upon our poor httt
society TO get il out OF an awkward posi-
ton is a confession of debility or viciousnes
that ought to bring the blush Of shame q
the cheek OF every member OF the depart
ment. But we are ready to make good
just you put that down.. We are ready Il
make good