The Birmingham age-herald., 1906-01-09

the Standard Oil company of Indiana was in the trust agreement by the scrip which was issued.
 Testimony Allowed to Stand.
 Mr Hagerman also took up otRer of Mrs. Butts statements as to what com panies were in the Standard oil trust and having asked where she got her in- formation moved to exclude them, but the commissioner overruled him in every instance.
 Mrs Butts said she got her evidence that the Consolidated Tank Line com pany disappeared from the fact that its name did not appear in the paper. The Standard Oil company took it's place in competition with her fathers business, and it disappeared from the territory where the Standard oil company after ward appeared. Much evidence she had given, she ex- p1ained was based upon the knowledge she had obtained of the Standard oil trust certificates. assignments of legal title and scrip of the companies in the trust which she now holds and by the ex- l. changes of one form of these papers for another form, which was made by the trust.
 She knew that the Standard Oil com pany of New Jersey became the holding company of twenty oil companies because , she had seen evidence in which J. D. Archbold had said that stock in the New Jersey company was the same as the trust certificates as the original trust. She had also noted the change of Alex ander Mcdonald 6 Co.,, to the Consolidat- ed Tank Line company, and that Alex ander Mcdonald became president of the latter company. She noted many of the charges in her stepfather's dealings in competition with the companies. The Chess-Carley company, she said, hadthe general reputation of having the Standard oil company behind them and "they tried to drive us off the face of the earth"
 Tn redirect examination Mrs Butts said she had knowledge of many of the com panies in the Standard oil trust from actual competition with them. She came to know of these facts from association with MT. Rice in his business.
 Rogers Again Called.
 H. IL Rogers was then recalled.
 MT Hadley repeated his previous ques- ton: 'Explain what you meant by saying you did not learn there were any com mittees."
 ''The answer explains itself,' said Mir Rogers.
 Did you mean that there are no com mittees at 26 Broadway that had any thing to do with the Standard Oil com pany of Indiana?"
 q did not"
 Do I understand you to say that there is at 20 Broadway no committees which have charge of the trade of the Standard oil company of Indiana?"
 No"
 Are there such committees?' CT can't answer"
 "Does the Standard Oil company sell oil in New York?"
 'I don't know
 'Does it have an office at 2S Broad way?"
 "T don't know that it does.''
 ''You are director in that company"
 "Yes"
 DO you know if the secretary and treasurer of the Standard OH company of Indiana stay at 26 Broadway"
 "If MT. Staple is the treasurer as I sup pose him to be- and MT. Cowan is vice president, as I believe him to be, don't know that they have officers there"
 Do you mean to say to the supreme court of Missouri that you don't know where the company's offices are?"
 ''It is quite immaterial to me what the supreme court of Missouri expects me to say" said MT. Rogers.
 Changes Form of Question.
 At the commissioners sign. MT. Hadley changed the question to Do you not know as a director where the general of- fees of the Standard oil company of In- diana are locatedg'
 T do not know as a fact, but suppose they are in Indiana where the company is incorporated and prefer to trust to records, rather than to my memory" said MT. Rogers.
 DO you not know that MT. Moffatt. president of the Standard Oil company of Indiana, has an office at 26 BroadwayT'
 ''I imagine that he has an office there, but never was in it
 'It is charged in this case that the Standard Oil company of Indiana, the Waters-Pierce Oil company and the Re- public oil company are in a confedera- ton and agreement in violation of the trust laws of Missouri; do you not know that the Standard Oil company of New York owns or controls either through it. self other parties, majority of the stock in all these companies?"
 T object" said MT. Hagerman. "as the question of stock ownership is still in court"
 MT Hadley said the question of stock ownership is not pending in any court of Missouri
 Commissioner Osborne found the ques- ton competent and instructed Mir. Rogers to answer. MT. Rogers declined to-do so.
 MT. Rogers was still on the witness stand when the hearing adjourned until