The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1906-01-06
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ton and said he wanted the right of
MI. Hadley to get at the list of stock
holders Of the company decided by the
courts.
MI. Hadley said the question bore on
the question of the credibility of the
witness as showing his interest.
John D. johnson, Of counsel for the
companies, said the state called Mr..
Rogers and should not question his
~credibility.
81 beg respectfully to be excused,'
said Mr.. Rogers.
Mr.. Hadley then asked that the ques-
ton and the refusal to answe be GER
titled to the supreme court.
AS to Majority of Stock.
"Do you know who owns a majority
Of the stock Of the Standard Oil COM
pany Of ~Indiana9' asked Mr.. Hadley.
not to answer and the commissioner
told him he would have to request him
to leave the room if he interrupted
again. Mr.. Rowe said he knew his
rights and would continue to advise the
witness. The commissioner told him to
leave the room, but MI. Rowe declined
to do so. The commissioner stopped
proceedings and said they would not go
on unless Mr.. Rowe left.
II should like to be in his place."
said Mr.. Rogers.
Mr.. Hadley suggested that MI. Rowe
be allowed to jremain, but the commits
sioner said he would consent only if
Mr.. Rowe agreed to stop interrupting.
At this point the hearing adjourned
until this afternoon.
Typewriter Installed.
The installation of a typewriting ma
chine and In operator in the hearing
room before the session opened by or
der Of Mr.. Hadley indicated an effort
on his part to a " the COMMISSIONS
from the necessity Of writing down in
1onghand the words Of the questioner
and witnesses, which was insisted upon
; yesterday by counsel for the Standard
: Oil company.
The first witness today was Mrs. Ida
, M. Butts Of Marietta, Ohio. When the
: examination of Mrs. Butts was begun
, the Typewriter began his work, but
: company, demanded that the operator
D repeat each question: and answer after
he had written it. Mr.. Hadley agreed
] to. this. &
Mrs. Butts said she was a stepdaugh
} ter of the late George Rice of Marietta
and had been employed in his office
Mr.. Rice was an Independent oil opera
tor, and was engaged in litigation will
the Standard Oil company, almost con
: stantly for more than twenty years VI
Y to the time Of his death about a yea.
ago. .t-E ..s-
Trust Men object.
When Mr.. Hadley asked the witnes
if Rice was eve connected with tn!
Standard Oil company, counsel for al
: the oil companies represented, objected
but the witness said: 49,.
! elf holding certificates is a member
ship, he was a member Of the Standar'
Toll trust.' T. j.. ~.
T. "Were those certificates issued b:
: the Standard Oil trustF'
eyes, ~., - 1852,
Counsel also. objected to this ques
Etion and answer.
Witness said the Standard Oil CON
pany was organized in 1882.
George Rice died last year and wit
ness now holds those, certificates as hi
If administrators ai-&~r rr. - %s,zEf -.
n $50 far as, you know, are these til
n only certificates Of the Standard o.
70 trust in existence9'
,r $50 far as I KNOW Mrs. Butts rt
~ pllou. OuS 'SdIu VIdG SUI WAY .p1OuSu
d. against the Standard Oil company, q
h- Ohio to drive them out of the. trust q
out of the state if they remained i
le Story Of Ohio, Suits.
y In response to a request by Mr.. Had
ley for a statement Of the history {
that litigation and what the Standar
10 Oil company did in defense, Mrs. Butt
- said: .~ - -
a VThe Standard Oil trust moved t
~ dissolve. in 1892 and these were liqu
dating trustees certificates. This WEI
4 on until about 1Sa7,-very few certi1
~, ~ Gates being liquidated. General Mo-
~ nett, attorney general Of Ohio, brougl
70 suit and T think the supreme court d
'.o cided that the trust should get out {
o. Ohio in 1899, and then the Standa1
70, Oil company of New Jersey became tt
20 holding company
"Was this move in 1892 to dissol1
the Standard Oil company, after.
Judgment Of the Ohio courts again
y the Standard. Oil company of tn;
20 state9' asked Mr.. Hadley.
1T think So;
Mr.. Hadley asked if. after the a
he verse Judgment Of the Ohio court, tt
Standard Oil company did not emit
ne on q, dissolution by using. ~liquidati1
GIuSG Ccl UlllStIOCo dllo - !" 1ooof W.
the Ohio state courts enforced the g
~ der Of dissolution, the Standard {
company Of New Jersey became tt
OF holding company. .-..
Objection Was Futile.
MI. Hagerman objected, but N
Hadley said he has a right under
decision of the supreme court of M!
souri, to ask leading questions.
ed Mrs. Butts said in reply to Mr.. Ha
. ley s question, that the statement W
exactly correct.
Mr.. Hadley asked if the Water
Pierce Oil company YVES n of the orr
ty, inal members of the Standard Oil co.
Sc. pany. Counsel objected, but M
Butts replied: y
ms "It is one Of the companies named
an the trust agreement"
She never saw the original agrt
en- ment, but saw certified copies. S
:, does not know where the original trr
lty agreement is now. She said that S
vas does not know of any other trust c.
tifcates and the l%iquidating certifcat
Pc than the ones she holds.
MANY COMPANIES in Trust,