The news-democrat. (Providence, R.I.) 1906-1909, 1906-05-15

"Washington. May, Ia. 1906.
my Dear Senator Allison-As seha
connection with mine In the statement
he made concerning our relatiohs 70
the rate bill last SATURDAY, IL pie pyit
After the rate bill was reported
from tho committee, and after, py e No,e
put in charge OF II, many senators and
many outsiders came TO see me win
aAmong others I was asked to see
Senator Chandler, as representing Mr' Mr'
Tiilman. who was in charge or the bili;
81 stated IN response that ! Nv was T,,Pl 1l
man. personally, or TO see Mr; chan-
dler or anyone else who could speak
for him. and l accordingly directed my my
secretary 10 make an appointment Tor
Mr.. Chandler TO see me. My under
standing was that he was the repre-
sentative OF Mr.; Tillman. s A.
me the views OF Mr., Tillman' with
seeming authority. He called on me
several times. During the same perIodd
to give the Views OF other senator's
I'm addition ] saw numerous sena-
tors. both Republicans and Democrats; q;
them many times. I also saw numer-
out outsiders, railroad men; shippers;
newspaper men and students a,iy or
the attorney general and the members
OF the interstate commerce commits
sion, and on two occasion l saw groups
OF newspaper men In mass
SAME VIEWS TO ALL.
"In all OF these, senator's, representa-
tiyes OF senator's and outsiders alike,
I made the same statements. those that
/ made TO Mr.. Chandler being the same
in substance that ! made 10 you ana
TO those OF your colleagues OF both po-
litical parties with whom hau any
extended conference on the subject.
III lnt nf
which enclose. shows fully the facts
as to the conferences. which, at my In
stance he held with Senator'S Itarnce riiiman mera
precisely such as, at my instance, he
held with many other senator's 70 de-
termine the phraseoloEy ana ossS aisoSss
"To all whom l saw / stated that the
Hepburn bill was in It's essence entireiy Ell,
as IL passed the house simply recog-
nized the right OF review by the courts
that Is; the Jurisdiction OF the courts
but did not attempt TO define II, thus
leaving the courts 10 prescribe the I'M
its OF their own Jurisdiction. s
This was vas In aeeSrSanee w his tee bee
lief being that thereby we avoided all
danger OF the bill being declared un.
constitutional because OF the attempt
TO confer either ,too much or too little
Jurisdiction on the courts.
COURT REVIEW MATTER.
'T also repeatedly stated that while
II was entirely satisfactory to me sim
ply to leave the Hepburn bill in sub
stance as it was-that is, with the rec
ognition OF the jurisdiction of the
courts hut Without any attempt TO de-
fine that jurisdiction-yet that was
entirely willing that there should be
a definition: provided that this
broad review, but explicitly narrowed
IL TO the two subjects which, as a mat
ter OF fact 1 believed that the courts
would alone consider in case there was
no attempt 10 define the limits OF their
review; that is would limit IL 10 the
question as to whether the commits
sion had acted ultra wires and as to
whether any mans constitutional
rights had been impaired.
II stated that III the question OF de-
fning or limiting the review was
brought up at all, ], personally, felt
that this was the way In which IL
should be limited or defined.
AT different times at least. score
OF tentative amendments were either
prepared by the Encouragement at
the request of senators, or submitted
TO me by senator's.
As many OF those amendments Din
Guiding among others the substance Of
the so-called Long, Overman, Bacon
and Spooner amendments) I stated
that i should be entirely satisfied TO
have them in this bill; as to others. l
suggested notifications which would
make them satisfactory: as to none did
did I ever say, either TO Mr.. Chandler