The sun. (Jacksonville, Fla.) 1905-1908, 1906-08-11
Congestion Impedes Business
Continued From Page One.)


A. T. Race, being sworn, testified as follows:
Q-Mr. Race in what line of business are you
engaged In Jacksonville? Ain handling lumber
tor Eppinger & Russell Co.
Q-Do you have any trouble with railroads
about getting cars placed at the docks? Ayes
sir.
Q-How many cars have you on hand now?
A-Well last night had 49,
Q-How many Of these cars have you ordered
placed at the dock? Al haven't the exact NUM-
Der OF cars to mind, but 1t was near 75
Q-What reasons do your forwarding agents
give for not unloading cars, II any? A-None, ex
cept that they are not put in place for unloading
We unload them II they are there.
Q-DO you suggest any remedy for the present
congested condition In Jacksonville? A-No, sir,
only to get the cars placed where we can get at
them. And also placed as we order them. W.
order certain cars and ask that they put them in
for us and they put something else in which
causes quite delay II we could get all the cars
of one order We could discharge them in much
shorter time. II they were placed as merchan-
disc cars are placed We could do our business
good deal more promptly in unloading.
Q-Has the Seaboard sufficient facilities for
handling that character of business All the
Clyde Line would move the lumber as It Is o.
fered to them the Seaboard has sufficient facili-
ties to my mind.
preliminary questions Mr.. Wagner answered that
he was In the lumber business In Jacksonville IL.
the interest of Bliss & Van Auken and the Otter
Creek Lumber Co. He testified as follows:
Q-Do you ship through this port by vessel?
Ave do only to a limited extent, for the very
reason that we wouldn't ship one car through
here II we didn't have to.
Q-Why do you say that you would not ship
here II you did not have to? A-The railroad
troubles are too great to avoid and delays are too
expensive. 1t cost so much more money
Q-Do understand by that that you are divert
Ing part Of your freight? Ave ship every
thing we can through Fernandina because 1t Is so
much cheaper and much more satisfactory
business.
Q-What trouble have you with the railroads IN
getting cars placed at the docks? A-There arc
Atlantic Coast Line cars that left the mill May
18th, were reported here June 30th, ordered on
that date and haven't been placed yet. (This
hearing was held July 13th) Other cars run
from that date down to July 9TH. With the Sea-
board there was one which the order was given
Tor May 21st and It hasn't been placed yet
Q-Have you room to unload any of these cars
on the Seaboard docks IL they were delivered To
you? A-The Seaboard cars 20 to the Talley.
rand dock, controlled by the st. Johns River
Terminal Co., and there Is room to unload them
there
Q-How many cars have you? Ave have %
cars that are in this port now.
Q-You say you have room to unload them?
Ave asked information from the st. johns
River Terminal Co. June 25th and asked for a re-
ply to our Letter on July 9th. 1t was delayed that
long. On July 18th we get the reply that they
cannot accept them from connecting lines be-
cause all their tracks are crowded There Is no
space on any OF our wharves, was the answer.
The forwarding company say they are ready 20
unload 1t and are asking for their cars.
Q-The terminal company said there was no
space to unload your cars? Ayes sir, they were
ordered at the Talleyrand docks.
Q-And the forwarding company say there Is
space? Ayes sir, that they will unload.
Q-Mr. Wagner, are you engaged In the saw
mill business as well as the wholesale lumber bus
mess? Ayes sir.
Glad this congestion here caused you any
trouble at the mill in getting cars? A-That -
the argument Of the railroads
DIN your opinion have they sufficient facilities
here for handling 200 cars at time. Al don't
think they have. I think that their present pre-
Daration will give them sufficient room for them,
but facilities are short in the terminal company.
don't think they have sufficient by any means.
Q-The st. Johns River Terminal Co.? Ayes
sir.
Q-You think the Seaboard Air Line Ry Co. has
dock space enough? Al do not for their stean-
er business don't know that they are having
any other space but that
Q-Has there been any trouble in getting YES
sells here for the last few months? A-There has
been. II reports are correct there 10 quite fleet
I'm hoo