Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1906-06-12
OBJECTION BY DEMOCRATS
Wanted to Debate the Senate Amend
ment.
MIR. DALzELL BRINGS IN RULE
Adopted by Vote Of 1s4 to o.
Messrs. Hepburn, Sherman and
Richardson Made Conferees.

The railroad rate bill was sent to confer
ence today by the House, 1S4 to 30. and
Messrs. Hepburn of Iowa, Sherman of New
York and Richardson of Albania were APP
pointed conferees.
Mr.. Dalzell of Pennsylvania today pre-
scented to the House a rule from the COM
mittee on rules taking the railroad rate bill
from the Speakers table and sending It to
conference. requested by the Senate.
Mr.. Williams of Mississippi, the minority
leader, desired to offer an amendment, but
with shake of his head Mr.. Dalzell refus-
ed permission.
Mr.. Dalzell then moved the previous ques-
ton. whereupon Mr.. Williams demanded
the yeas and nays and the roll was called.
BY vote of 1876 to 90 the previous ques-
ton was ordered
Mr.. Dalzell, in addressing the House,
explained the parliamentary status of
the rate bin. stating that the SEN
ate had amended the bill and that on the
request of the House a conference between
the two houses had been agreed to. Now
the Senate had committed the bill to the
conferees. The rule proposes to grant the
request of the Senate for further confer
ence.
Williams Opposes the Rule.
Mr. Williams (hIiss.). the minority leader,
said that the House was pretty familiar
with rules by this time. II they wanted to
be gagged all they had to do was to vote
for the rule. If they desired to ex-
press themselves on the great questions
Involved in the rate bill they would vote no.
He said the gentleman from Pennsylvania
(Mr. DalzelD had promised the House that
IL would have d chance to vote on the
amendments and. now brings In rule pro-
hibiung an honest expression. Mr.. Williams
then read the amendment he proposed to
the rule as reported by Mr. Dalzell from
the committee on rules:
provided, however. that the House con-
ferees are instructed to concur in the Sem
ate amendment declaring sleeping car COM
panles TO be common carriers: and are fur
ther instructed to insist upon exempting
from the provision forbidding free passes
omcials and employees of the railroads and
their Immediate families"
Gen. Grosvenor Quoted.
Mr.. Bartlett (Ga.} opposed the. adoption
OF the rule because he said the House
should have the right to vote on the Sem
ate amendments. He called attention to the
statement made by Mr. Grosvenor tOhio)
on May %. when the bill was, by a rule,
first sent to conference and quoted him as
saying:
4 ask the House to hear what say and
measure my language-when that confer
ence report comes back there will be a
chance TO vote on every amendment the
House desires to vote upon and then we
viii debate, and for once In my life l think
l occupy position where can enforce the
suggestion 1 have made"
Paraphrasing what was said by Joshua,
MIR. Prince Qn) received a round of APP
pause when he stated his position
Choose We this day whom you will serve;
the sleeping car companies or the people:
as for me and my house we will serve the
people
NJ \
press itself In no uncertain terms the
question of passes for railroad employees
and their families which he said were abso-
lutely desired.
Mr. Richardson tAla.) was pronounced
against the rule, believing that now was the
time for the House to set the seal of It's
approval on some of the amendments of the
Senate, particularly on the question OF
sleeping cars.
Mr.. Townsend (dich) was in favor OF
the rule on the ground that II was the or
DERBY procedure TO determine what the
House desires
He said that sleeping cars had not been
originally discussed in question with rate
regulation at the time the bill was first
considered In committee, but as the dan
gerous doctrine of specification had been
ADOPTED he believed that sleeping cars
should be included in the BILL Speaking
OF the bin itself. Mr.. Townsend said il
was much better bill than the most ar
dent friend of the measure had hoped for
Nneh the agitation began.
Gen. Grosvenor's Protests.
There was a spirited coiloquy between
Mr.. Grosvenor (Ohio) and Mr.. Bartlett Gal
over the speech of the gentleman from
Ohio to which Mr.. Bartlett had referred
After stating that he had been put In a
false position by the Interpretation put upon
the speech by Mr.. Bartlett, Mr.. Grosvenor
was about 10 continue the discussion. when
Mr.: Bartlett rose to interrupt.
didn't interrupt you." said Mr.. Gros-
Yenor, and / am not going to say anything
more about you" which caused burst OF
laughter from the republican side
Inadvertently Mr. Grosvenor alluded to
the gentleman sfrom Illinois. when Mr..
frihce rose considerably nonplussed by the
turn Of affairs
When / came into the chamber, / under
stood the gentleman from Illinois was go
Ing TO illuminate me- said Mr. Grosyenor,
but l ind the illumination broke out
over In Georgia, and beg the gentleman's
pardon" indicating Mr. Prince
Il have entertained the profoundest re-
gard for the gentleman from Ohio" said
Mr. Prince.
Same here" replied Mr.. Grosvenor,
which brought forth hearty laughter Mr..
Grosvenor then said that the position or
the House was the same as when the con-
ference asked for by the Senate had been
agreed to; that the House had no confer
erce report properly before It. and that he
stood In the same position on the right to
discuss the amendments as he did on
May D.
Mr.. DeArmond MOI called the rule gag
law" and said now was the time to vote
on the amendments as to sleeping car COM
Danies and passes for railroad employees.
Mr.. Dalzeil reiterated his position that he
was In favor OF the sleeping car amendment
and In favor of exenpting railway employees
from the operation of the anti-pass amend
ment
The rule was adopted. years 1SI. nays 49,
and Messrs. Hepburn Qowal, Sherman
IN - and Richardson (Ala) were APP
pointed eonferees.
QUESTION OF PASSES.