The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1906-01-24

Defense of the President For His
Latest Effort to Act Independ-
ent Of Congress.
HAPPY RET0RT
WISCONSIN SENATOR'S APPAR-
EMIT iNSINCERiTY.

Washington. Jan. 2S-At the beginning
Of today's session Of the senate Mr.. War
rem introduced q bill giving to women the
right to vote in all states for representa-
tives in congress. The bill was referred
to the committee on woman suffrage.
The pure food bill was laid before the
senate and Mr. McCumber continued his
speech in support Of that measure.
Mr.. Hepburn also addressed the SEN
ate in advocacy Of the bill
Apology for the President.
Mr.. srooner then addressed the senate
on the conduct by the president Of our
foreign relations. The precipitation of
this discussion had, he said seemed to
him quite unjustifiable because many Of
the questions spoken of involved ex-
ecutive matters and should have been
considered behind closed doors.
Speaking generally, he felt that the
plan of dealing with foreign questions IN
executive session to be the wise one. He
outlined the powers of the president to
negotiate a treaty. and said that he
could not be compelled to conduct such
senate, nor, for that matter, Of the en-
tire congress.
TiIIman's Pertinent Question.
How can the senate advise to any ad-
vantage after thing is done?" Mr. Till
man asked, and, replying, Mr.. Spooner
enlarged upon his theory that at no stage
of the negotiations Of a treaty was the
president required to take the senate into
his confidence. The correspondence in a
pending negotiation might be productive
of mischief, and he believed that to be
true in the case Of Morocco, for instance.
In reply to an inquiry from Mr.. TIL
man, Mr.. .Spooner said that the members
of the committee on foreign relations
were like other senators, advisers to the
president.
A member Of that committee in his re-
latiOn to the president Is only senator
and IS a servant of the senate, he said.
"a senate committee" he went on, has
no relation to the president
Quoted a Newspaper.
Mr.. Tillman quoted a newspaper arti-
Gle referring to Messrs. Lodge and
Spooner of the foreign relations commit
tee as having been called upon to pass
upon foreign questions. He wanted to
know whether, as a matter Of common
sense, a president would not ordinarily
desire to have the advice of such mem
bers Of the committee who were also
leaders of the senate.
Referring to Mr.. TiIIman's characteri-
zatiOn of his own observation as one Of
common sense, Mr.. Spooner said that
he felt impelled to say that the character
os the remark was such as to justify
that characterization.
''For which," responded Mr.. TiIlman.
'I am duly grateful
but" responded Mr.. Spooner, ST say
so only from a sense of pOliteness."
'HThen," said Mr.. TilIman, 1.-The senator
ccnvicts himself of insincerity."
Galleries Laughed Aloud.
The galleries enjoyed the exchange of
and laughed aloud, so much
so as to render necessary rebuke from
the vice president
Mr.. SpOoner outlined ''the prerOgativeS''
of the different branches Of congress.
1.-THE senator used the word 'preroga-
tive too broadly" remarked Mr.. Morgan
THE president has no prerogative ike
Replying, Mr.. Spooner said that in the
last analysis he considered the Alabama
senator to be right, but" he added,
MIR. Morgan has heard the word used
i RfFe a thousand 'insS as nave oS''
"A thousand times too often" respond
ed Mr.. Morgan.
Mir. Spooner's Belief.
Mr. Spooner said that Mr. Bacon. the
author Of the resolution calling upon the
president for information about the Al
geciras conference, had deprecated the
departure from the doctrine of non-in-
reference In foreign matters laid down
in WashingtOn's farewell address As for
himself Mr.. SpOoner said he believed
that in appointing delegates to that con-
within his constitutional capacity and
in the interest of the country and just
obedience of the demands of the situa-
ton"
He did not believe such action to be
in contraventiOn of the declaration of the
farewell address or the spirit of the con-
stitution.
1.-The trainers Of the constitution did
not mean to create a baby nation or d
hermit nation he said, and then quoted
precedents to show that this country
participated in international conferences
to advantage