The Birmingham age-herald., 1906-06-28
THAW ODST|NATELY
 REFUSES ID TALK
Confers Wite His Wife for an
 Hour at Jail
MANY WITNESSES HEARD
One Man Heard Mir. White Make De- rogatory Remarks About Mrs. Thaw Just Prior to
 the Shooting.


 Thaw Just Prior to
 the Shooting.
 New York, June 27.yThat Harry K Thaw, the slayer of Stanford White, Is per fectly sane, was the report made today by the alienists retained by the district attorneys office. This report was made after the physicians had spent an hour with Thaw, who in defiance of the ad- vice of counsel refused to answer any questions, and declared that nothing short of actual force would compel him to sut- init to a physical examination,
 When the physicians called upon the prisoner Thaw said firmly as the nrst member was. introduced to him.
 q beg your pardon, I will answer no questions whatever"
 Then began a general conversation on triyal subjects with Dr. Austin Flint and pr. Hamilton, Thaw deftly parrying aues- lions that had any bearing on his mental or physical condition. Finding him opuu- rate the doctors hurriedly summoned eN- Judge Olcott, but to his Thaw vehemehty reiterated his determination to answer no questions.
 No Explanation to Offer.
 Pressed for an explanation of his re- fusal, he said:
 q haven't any; l have none at all. ful it down to obstinacy if you wish
 He had promised MT. olcott to suomlt to the examination.
 "This refusal will hurt you" MT. ol- colt is said to have pleaded.
 q don't care. Nothing but absolute force will get me to allow myself to pe examined, or to say anything today. think I first ought to talk with pr. Haii'- jlton, and then have a talk with MT. Deia- field. Later I will tell you whether will talk with the committee.
 He was then taken back to his cell
 MT. Olcott said later that he was unaple to account for Thaw's attitude ana that he could only attribute 1t 10 unaccouhte ble obstinacy. As his counsel, he said nc bad m objection to Thaw,s answering any of tbe questions addressed to him by the physicians. ,,
 After the alienists had departed Mrs. Thaw was permitted to see her huspaiiu for the first time since his arrest. ehe came to the Tombs in carriage accoil,- nanied by her husbands brother, Joslah Thaw.
 Husband and Wife Confer.
 The husband and wife talked in an un- dertone for nearly an hour. IhaW aiso received visit from hls sister, MIS- George c. Carnegie. Before visiting the Tombs Mrs. nav utl, former Olcott and Frederick Delafield, at which if Is believed that the line of derense was discussed, and the intention to inter- nose a plea of insanity was confirmed. when asked about the letters rom | White which Mrs. Thaw yesterday turned over to MT. Delafeld, MT. Olcott said that he believed they would be or materiai value to the defense.
 l Coroner Dooley announced that the in- quest which opens tomorrow would not pc a merely formal proceeding, but that all available witnesses would be examined in order that Thaw might be held to the grand jury.
 Mrs Thaw will not appear at the in- quest. and it was said today that in all probability she would not he required to appear before the grand jury, in which case her testimony will not be taken until the trial. In the meantime the dls- | trict attorneys office will prosecute ar 1 investigation of the habits and move ments of Thaw and White during severa weeks previous to the tragedy No less than twenty witnesses were ex' amned by the district attorneys office today. Among the most prominent oi | these was Thaw's valet, William Bedford who has been in his service for six years and Is believed to be conversant witt the events which are supposed to have been the immediate incentive to th' crime.
 Made Remarks About Mrs. ThaW.
 It was announced that MT. Garvan, who is preparing the case against Thaw, to day discovered a witness who said h' overheard White make derogatory re marks concerning Mrs Thaw while II the Cafe Martin. few hours before h' was shot. According to the witness whose name is concealed for the present. Whit was not whispering At that time Mir ant Mrs. Thaw were In the cafe. l It is believed that this witness will no | appear before the coroner's jury. but tha he will be reserved for the trial.
 Nellie Leahy, Mrs. Thaw's maid. alst was examined by MT Garvan today.
 Left His Wife In April.
 In the course of today's investigat tion' | as to Thaws recent movements In thu | search for immediate motive for the kill ing of White, 1t was learned that Thav sailed for Europe April 2s on the Kaisel l Wilhelm II, after stormy scene with hl' wife, with the avowed purpose of nevel returning to her.
 On the same boat with him was hi! | sister, the Countess of Yarmouth.
 According to a report made to the agent! of the line Thaw said several times in tn, smoking saloon that his life had beer ruined, and that he had left that wom an for good and all"
 Thaw is said to have made this sam, announcement to the Countess of Var mouth as soon as he made his presence known to her. It was reported aboard thu boat that his sister pleaded with him tt return to his wife.
 Apparently the sisters pleadings hat some effect, for he remained only a few days, taking return passage on the Kai | serin Augusta Victoria. That steamer sailed May 10. and arrived May 19 Thaw' name did not appear on the passenger list
 Detectives are now trying to find ou where Mrs. Thaw spent the time betweer her husbands departure for England ant his return. Her friends say she did no leave New York city.
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