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The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14

The entire business world has
it's eyes focused upon the United
States Senate, watching the out
come of the rate bill fight. Sena-
tor Tillman has been put in com
mand of this battle by a Repub-
lican committee, and a Repuh-
lican Senate: if the position is
not undermined, the distinction
comes seldom from the opposi-
ton party, and if the South Car
lima Senator carries on the fight
successfully he will add .lustre
to his reputation. There is grave
doubt of Tillman being able to
get the bill through, as there is
a division of opinion on the
Democratic side as well as the
Republican side. Even Senator
Bailey, who usually. backs Till
man, after hearing the great
speech Of. Senator Foraker
against the measure: IS reported
to have remarked: ';If Foraker's
speech cannot be answered, the
bill shouldsnot pass. y Evident
y ne was much impressed with
the Ohio statesman's argum'
Senator Tillman has the advs |
age OF having president Roc5z
Velt,s endorsement of the TX.
although the President and
Senator do not sleep in the S;
political bed, and it is thou i
this will help him. Then, tt
are others who believe the
road Senators had Till
placed in charge of this meas
to show the President their
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
;rArE OF OHIO. CITY OF TOLEDO. ! g

LUCAS OOCNT1.
Fn.SK J. CHENEY makes oath that !.e is the
senior partner OF the firm OF +. j. CHENEY &
Co.. doing business in the city OF Toledo. county
and State aforesaid. ardthat said tirm will pay
the sum OF ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS Tor
each and every case of Catarrh that cannot be
cured by the use of HALLS CATARRH CURE.
FRANK J. CHENEY.
Sworn to before me and subscribed in my pres
ancc this 9th day Of December. a. D. 1856.
- ~ w. GLEASON.
isE.L Notary Public.
Halls Catarrh Cure is taken internally and
acts directly on the blood and mucous surfaces
Of the system. Send for testimonials. free.
F.. J. CHENEY 4 CO.. Toledo. O.
Sold by druggists. 75c.
Halls Family Pills are the best.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
Notice..

Notice is hereby given to all voters
within the corporate limits of the Town
of Manning who may desire to vote in
the coming municipal election to be
held the second Monday in April 1906.
that before they are allowed to vote
they must be qualified under the laws
of the State, by producing registra-
ton certificate from the county supeE,
visor of registration and certificate
from the Town supervisor of regis ira
ton. >Ett
f. J. BROWNE.
Clerk:
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
Workman News.
Editor The Manning Times:
IsE,X.

Editor The Manning Times:
The many friends Of Rev. James Nc
Dowe!l are glad to learn that ne is
still improving andhope to see him out
again soon.
Mr.. G. D. Smith and daughters Miss
Lima and little Miss Ellarene have re-
turned from a few days stay to his
daughter Mrs. Holiday at Pamela.
Miss Pearl Tomlinson Of kingstree
came home last Friday on a visit. but
returned on Saturday to be ready for
studies again.
The Cedar Grove school will soon
close snd We regret very much to see
our teacher Miss McFaddin leave us.
+.
Workman March Z, 1906.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
! OlJIS = VI.
Notice OF Election.

Under and by virtue of an Act of the
General Assembly of South Carolina.
duly passed at the Session of 1906, enti-
tied IAN Act to authorize the Trustees
of Summerton School District NO -,
OF Clarendon County. u issue Bonds for
the purpose of purchasing Lot. If nee
essary, and of erecting Il School Build
ing and equippir~~ same. and to provide
fol. The payment of said Bonds, Notlce
is hereby given that az election will be
held at Summerton, in said school dis
trict. on Saturday, the 24th, day of
March 1906, on the question of whether
the said Bonds shall be issued or not, in
which election only the qualified voters,
residing in said district, shall be allow
ed to vote. 3. C. Ragin, ]. NJ. Cantey
and w. H. Anderson are hereby ap-
pointed managers to open the polls at
a. m. and close them at 1 p. m. on
said day, conduct said election, and
make returns of the result to the un-
dersioned Trustees.
O. C. SCARBOROUGH,
Chairman.
d. RUTLEDGE.
!. c.. LANHAM.
Trustees.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14

The best safeguard against headache
constipation and liver troubles is De-
Wits Little Early Risers. Keep q vial
of these famous little pills in the house
and take dose at bed time when you
feel that the stomach and bowels need
cleansing. They don't grippe. Sold by
The r. B. Loryea Drug Store.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
Turbeville Sparks

Editor rhe Manning Times:
Mr.. H. w. Cole: of Draughton's Busi-
ness College, after spending a week at
his home, leaves tothorrow to resume
his studies.
". Pittman, of Pilot Noun
:, is visiting her father.
]. Turbeville spent last Mon
,rence on business.
.f-=c Lula McEacheru and Minnie
spent Saturday.in Manning.
..>. J. NJ. Woods and II. 0. S.
re over here for few days.
\. Green spent last Wednes-
mmonsville on business.
Der the box party Friday
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

Communications must be accompanied by the
real name and address OF the writer in order 70
receive attention
no communication OF persona! cnarac0es
win he pubtshed except as an advertisement
Entered at the Pos,otice At Manning as Sec
ono Class matter.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14
J. D. RUTLEDi
T C. T,ANH AN

Trustees.
Summerton. S. G. Feb. 18th, 1906.
The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1906-03-14

Workman March y, 1906.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
RESOLUTION

Resolved. That we, the mem
bers Of the Quarterly Confer
ence of Trinity VI. r. Church.
South, desire % express our app
probation of the work of the
Womans Home Mission Society
M their paying of the debt of
the Station parsonage.
Within the last ten years this
faithful band of women have
raised and paid $4,000 of debt
against the parsonage
IL rs further resolved that "a
copy OF this resolution Dee sent
90 the Secretary of the Home
Mission Society by the Secre-
tary of This Conference and a
copy 20 the Big Stone Gap Post
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19

The Johnson City ball team
Ia fine lot of fellows) came to
town last Thursday afternoon
and played three CRANES of bali
with the home team, a game
Thursday, Friday and Saturday
afternoons.
The Johnson City team is an
exceedingly strong one and won
all three of the games from our
BOYS, by the following scores:
Thursday by score Of s 70 I
Friday 4" &" 1910 .
Saturday d" " 9" Z" TO I
Only five innings were PLAYED
Saturday afternoon, owing TO
the continued rain.
The visiting team is one Of
the strongest that ever PLAYED
here and our boys did well 20
hold them down as well as they
did.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
LIEUTENANT cox

The Big Stone Gap correspon
dent of the Bristol Courier
says:
A great deal has been said
about the 18th of July celebra
tiOn here, but one of the most
patriotic citizens we have on
occasions of this kind is Lieu
tenant James II. Cox. who al
ways celebrates ina grand style
the anniversary day of our in-
dependence. On the afternoon
of July 3, In front of his vine
clad C cottage. around which
hangs great clusters of beau
ful grapes, Mr., Cox had planted
a 5O-fO0t pole, from the top OF
which hOated the stars and
stripes unfurled 20 the breeze
from the mountain gOrges sur
rounding this picturesque little
city. Late in the evening be-
meath this flag staff. seated IN
his arm chair, could be seen
Lieut.. Cox with the smoke from
his pipe interminghng the spray
from the beautiful fountain in
his front yard, which sparkles
in the electric rays like myriads
of miniature diamonds.
The premises Of Mr.. Cox is
enclosed with the most novel
and unique fence ever seen In
this vicinity. Lieutenant Cox
is 90 years of age, in perfect
health and as energetic as a
man OF 30. He was lst Lieu
tenant and L. G. ). of the 18th
Tennessee Cavalry that ami
Inflated the Morgans, and is the
only surviving commissioned
officer OF the Union army in this
section.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
METEOROLOGICAL OBSERVATIONS
AT BeeehwOOd by {. L. Harper. Jr.. for
the Week.

haromefe,: Highest ss.ss0 a. ID. iIth.
Lowest ,.o.iO9 . NJ. 18th.
lad highes velocity per hour IL
miles p. m. 18th.
Prevailing direction, southeast
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
ADVERTISED LETTERS.

List of letters remaining un-
called for at the postoffice at
Big Stone Gap, Va, July is.
1906.
Aslinger. IT.. c.: Brown. w.
W; Beatty. Mrs. Leila r.: Car
ter, Mrs. Harriet; Day. Geo. .:
Davidson. Miss O.. d.. Gipson.
Frank; Gipson. Mary A.. King.
Geo. H.; Moses, Henry. New
berry, sam; Osborn. Mrs. Mar
get; Pannell J. ID. c.: Richard
son, Auchra. RunneIl. Mrs.
Fannie; Stevenson. Mrs. j r.:
Short. Robert, Southern, Heuly
Stokes, f.; Sutton, Grow err:
Ward, Melvin.
In calling for any of the above
letters please say advertised.
w :. ROSE, Postmaster.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
So, 800 90 in Prizes

The Judges lea this great word contest
are among abe most prominent citizens In
Bristol. Dc. ! =. Henderson. President of
ne Virginia Institute. Col. }. d. Peters
Manager Of tho Board Of Trade aud 81 the
aanuiacturers Association, and Mr. n
p. Jones. President Of The Dominion
National Bank
No expense attached. only little effort
and you are sure 10 win.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
A $4,000 CABLE PIANO FREE
and
SS.S00.00 in Additional Prizes

VIII ht given away Co Successful contest
ants in tnc great woId contest offered br
The Gable Company. % Knoxville. Tenn
Bristol being che central point " here
vc desire to make our pianos ana fhe
name of lhe Cable Company known 90
every mau, woman and child in East Ten D.
ncsscc, Southeastern Virginia and West
ern North Carolina. We have selected
1rIsiol as else place uhrfe We sill hold
iM-. the greatest word contest ever at-
frmufgl fn ftf. ..a.ff..
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19

Ca bic Piano
will be given free by
The Gable Company

In great VOID contest in which cverv-
BODY can participate, v, 4 besides We will
give absolutely free ior the purpose OF
more thoroughly Advertising our pisnos
and The Cable Company ia East Tonnes.
see, Southwest Virginia snd Western
North H.-,ft..
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
EDUCATIONAL SERMONS.

"Ihe Wonders in the Air.
viii be Dr. Larry's subject sun
day night. The electric lights
proved great improvement last
Sunday night
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
LOCAL ITEMS.

y
K. T. Thomas, of Crab Orch
ard was in town Saturday.
~. 5. Palmer was over from
Crab Orchard Saturday.
l.. A. Farrand, of Lebanon.
Ky. was in town last Friday.
Jno. h. Jones, of New York.
was registered at Hotel Eugene
last saturday.
Fine stationery at Hamblen
Bros.
a. c.. Hill, of Norton, was i'm
town last week.
lessee Beam was down from
Tacoma last Friday.
A. VI. Stull, the popular Bris-
| tol piano dealer, was in town
last week on business.
Go 10 Hamblen Bros. for your
school stationery.
Attorney Mayo Cabell re-
turned last Saturday from a
visit to relatives in Nelson
county.
p. w. Hughes. of Pincy Flats.
was in town last Friday.
i. Phillips, of London. XIV.
was in town last week.
81. b. stockton, superinten-
dent of the ore mines at Oreton.
spent sunday at Norton.
8. G.. Carey, of Chattanooga.
was q visitor 20 our mountain
| city last week.
j.. vs.. Kelly. Of Wise, was
registered at Hotel Eugene last
Friday
Dinwiddie kilgore. of Wise.
was IN town Sunday
For the best fancy and staple
groceries go 60 Hamblen Bros.
b. S Shield, of Richmond
was registered at the hotel last
Friday.
G.. b. Dare, of Bristol. was i'm
thc city one day last week.
Mr G.. $. Carter and bride
returned % The Gap last Satur-
day, and are now stopping with
the family of w. w. Taylor.
Buy YOUR furniture from w. J..
Nickeis.
j d. Marshall, of Bluefeld.
was DOB town last Friday.
b III. Williams. Of Tazewell.
was in town last week.
Wiley Witt has accepted "A
position M the postoflice at this
place as assistant postmaster
j Hunt, of Abingdon, was
Do town last week.
Joe a. Chiffon, of Knoxville.
was registered at Hotel Eugene
ast Thursday.
Miss Frances ID. Piper of
Beaver Falls. Pa, is guest of
her cousin, Mrs. +. j Prescott
d. NJ Perkins and wife. of
knoxville. were guests at Hotel
Eugene last Thursday.
j ". Allen, popular Norton
travelling salesman, was calling
on ihe merchants of the Gan
one day last week.
w. r.. Wolfe, of Rose Hin.
ree county, was in town last
Thursday.
Aessrs. G. Boice and j. NJ
hel. prominent business men
~ Aongdon, We're in town last
week.
J.. J.. Hunt, of Norton. was
10 town last Thursday.
| -, O,afpetS, rugs, mattings. and
,'ii Kinds OF furnishings for the
mouse at w. l. Nickels'.
| h, Is Goodloe, son of Mr.. and
.lls d. Al. Goodloe, who has
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
BEECHM0NT.

New summer guests from New
Orleans are expected the last of
the week. A lawn party is
planned for the coming week.
The proceeds for the III. I. /.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19

Mayor Horton has issued an
order forbidding vehicles of any
kind passing in front of the
hotel while the dummy is ar
irving or departing with pas
sengers. Recently there have
been some very narrow escapes
from accident by vehicles driv-
ing rapidly past the hotel while
the street was crowded with
passengers getting on and off
the dummy. This is a good
ruling and should be enforced.
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
A little love. a little wealth.
A little home for you and me;
It's all l ask except good health.

hs.h Cofhts Win r. X v
Mountain Tea.
For sale by Hamblen Bros.
Presiding Elder K. III. Cas-
sldy, Prof. r. III. Sheppe aud
Kew. and Mrs. j. \. III. Shuler.
attended District Conference at
Lebanon last week. They re-
port a most interesting and en-
PERTAINING Conference.
We carry full line of sta
tlonery and school supplies. ID.
q. BrothertOn & Co.
\ large congregation attend
ed the services at the Southern
Methodist Church last Sunday
morning. one of the largest ever
witnessed at services in that
church. Rev. J A II. Shuler.
the pastor, preached a most ex-
cellent sermon.
IT YOU want some furniture
for your house and haven't the
money TO pay for il, I will sell
YOU on the installment plan.
with easy payments. Come
and see me. ". l.. NIcKELs.
Go to d. b. Brotherton & Co.
for school supplies and station
cry
Prof. r. II. Sheppe, of this
[ place, at the District Conference
at l. e. Damon last week was
elected one of four delegates
from the Big Stone Gap District
% the annual Conference. NJ.
+. Church. South, which con
venes m Cleveland, Tenn. Oc-
tober 18th.
Don Q forget 20 see Nickels.
the furniture man. when YOU
come 90 town. He carries Che
finest line of furniture and
house furnishings of any house
ina this section.
Mrs w. II. Tompkins and
children, of Appalachia. were
M town last Thursday morning.
j. d. Eggleston. Jr.. superin-
tendent of Public Instruction.
and II iris Hart. State Ex-
aminer of schools. viii visit the
Normal az this place next week.
The attendance az the Normal
has now reached 24O. which
makes 10 one Of the largest Nor
mails IN the State.
Guy II. Gilmer, Of Roanoke.
rs visiting homefolks i'm the
Gap.
IL has caused more laughs and
dried more tears. wiped away
diseases and driven away more
fears than any other medicine
IN the world. HOLSTERS Rocky
Mountain Tea. 35 cents. Tea
or Tablets. For sale by Ham.
blen Bros.
a reward of 5000 is offered for
the capture of j. Frank Ball.
/ Governor Beckham offers $500.
the lailer of Madison county
offers $50 and the j. O. T.. A vi.
and Oddfellows lodges of this
city each offers S75.-Middles-
boro News
All kinds Of legal blanks for
sale by the Wise Printing Co.
Mrs. ID. +. Orr is visiting rela-
tives at Dryden this week.
Mrs. r. V. Rex, Of Ottumwa.
Iowa, who has been visiting
relatives and friends here for a
couple OF weeks, left Monday
for South Hill, Va, where she
viii visit her sister, Mrs. W. c.
Robinson, before returning TO
her western home.
There are fifty teachers from
this county attending the nor
NAL at Big Stone Gap. so we
are informed by Prof. Fitzpat-
rick. The normal is progressing
ali right. doing good work. -
Gate City Herald.
n. b. Truth, St. Paul June 81.
'OS.-Ive lived so long. re-
member we'll when the Missis-
sippi was a brook. Ny good
health and long life came bv
The Big Stone Gap post. [volume] (Big Stone Gap, Wise County, Va.) 1892-1928, 1906-07-19
WAGONS FOR SALE.

| have three good wagons for
sale and am Offering them at a
bargain. One is new and the
other two have been used some .
Call aud see them.
27-23 d. G. WOLFE.
Old newspapers for sale at
this Office at 20 cents per 100.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-03-24

Upton Sinclair, whose daring novel
The Jungle, has startled the country
has had a remarkable career. He is
tWenty-seven years old. was born In
Baltimore and studied at the COLLEGE Of
the City Of New York and Columbia.
university He paid his way through
college by writing jokes and stories. He
wrote book of $4,000 words when he
was seventeen Before he was twenty
he had produced ar output equal to
that Of Sir Walter Scott. In 1900 he
gave up college and went to Canada to
write King Midas " For four wears
he lived in shauties and tents. often
subsisting on FISH and game During
the next summer he wrote Prince
Hagen. The publishers rejected 1t.
and during that time he nearly starved
IN New York The story of this terri
bic experience was told in THE Journal
OF Arthur Stirling" modern Grub
Street tragedy. Mr.. Sinclair then be
came q socialist and wrote Manassas.
the first Of a civil war trilogy. in a
shanty that he built near Princeton.
N j.. which he has enlarged and where
he now lives. THE Jungle" was the
natural result of his socialistie investl-
cation To obtain the informa ton he
spent long time IN ''Packingtown, %
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-03-24


were the men who had been left
aboard to sail the prize home.
While I was debating what to do, a
most uncomfortable occurrence decided
it for me in a hurry There was a
fash of phosphOrescence In the sea
near me and the next moment I saw a
gracefully undulating form, like that of
an eel about seven feet long. The
graceful thing was one of the deadly
ocean snakes that are so plentiful IN
those waters.
Before I had more than cleared the
water, I saw similar forms in all di-
rectfons and I hesitated no more, but
drew myself on deck and dropped soft
Iy into a little square opening aft of
the tiller where we kept ships stores.
The little vessel did not sail well, for
pirates were not accustomed to craft
like her. Before many hours had
passed the proas had disappeared in
the moonlight sea ahead and we were
alone.
Now was my chance to escape, If
ever, for with daylight I would surely
be discovered. But I could not i'm
agine what to do. Ny guns and am
ulunition had been taken away, as /
assured myself by cautious look
around
While I was still thinking in vain,
four of the pirates lay down to sleep on
the deck. leaving the fifth one at the
tiller / measured him with my eye
He was big man and I realized that 1
could not handle him without awaken
ing the rest
Suddenly he stepped backward acct
dentally. owing to a roll of the boat.
He tripped over a coil Of rope and went
souse! into the water. He clambered
back almost imm ediately, yelling
Dangling from his waist were two
great black and red snakes, one of
them at least five feet long and the
other four or more.
They dropped off as he got aboard.
and as luck would have it, they fell
across the other pirates, who were just
starting up Instinctively the men
snatched at the writing things and
before they were fully awake, each
man was bitten more than once The
next minute the snakes Wriggled clear
and slipped overheard.
The pirates realized quickly enough
what had happened and they ran
around frantically. But there was
nothing that they could do. The red
and black snakes are the most venom
GUS of them all. and when morning
daWned It shone on five men in their
death agony.
shall never forget that night. The
sight of the commissions and then the
slow agony of dying sickened me and
tried my best to help them. even
rates. When they were dead, pushed
them overheard and FASTENED to sail
away from the spot.
have never been tempted to go
back to Pirate Bay, and I have never
seen the ocean snakes of the China
Seas play around a ship since then
without shuddering. for their sight
brings back to me the fearful night
OF Mslampaya-
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-03-24
SAVED By SEA SNAKES.
The Tale of Curious Adventure in
the Philippine Waters.
(By Captain A. B. Hawser.)
49,. F,-f-- 800 -,-.

Some years before our war with
Spain, when the Philippine Islands
were almost unknown to most Ameri-
cans even by name. I tried to cross
the little strait known as Malampaya
Sound which separates two islands in
the Mindoro Sea. was after big py-
thcns and had hired a Chinese boat to
carry me there.
Four miles within the entrance of
this tropical strait is a bay that is
marked down as Pirate Bay in the
British Admiralty charts, and the
pleasing character of the jewellers on
hose shores is best told by this little
reference which I found on the map:
Caution. Merchant vessels enter
ing Malampaya Sound in the early
part of the southwest monsoon should
be on their guard against pirates, for
in Pirate Bay the Royahst's gig was
nearly cut off by a fleet of eight Illanon
proas on their annual marauding ex-
petition"
was thinking of this cheerful state
ment when we opened Pirate Bay off
our starboard. 1t looked peaceable
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-03-24

revelation of a mans life that some
nave suspected tito be autObfographica.i
me author in reply to letters from in
terested readers, has recently acknowl-
edged this to be true, at least in part
The peculiar spirituaI tangles in The
QulekeniEg' are my own" he writes
though I am far from believing that
they are unusual As a matter Of neces-
slty, the author translates more or less
Of his own thought and feelings-his
personality-into one or more of his
characters; and while I did not do this
with conscious emphasis in the dra wing
of Tom-Jeff, the completed story show
ed me that 7 had done it to a greater
degree with him than with any former
1ctional character of mine" Perhaps
this is the reason why Tom-Jeff, Iowa
BILE southern boy that he is, seems verit-
able flesh and blood.
Jerome K. Jerome's attack on Amer
lean humor has brought out some in
teresting expressions Of opinion. Bnaa-
der Matthews, as voiced in a recent
interview in the New York Herald de-
clares that American humor is not only
as keen as it ever was, but that Mark
Twain, George AIDE and Peter Dunno
are the best humorists we ever had.