The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1906-01-23
PAYNE NOT
So BITTER

"lt seems to me that the impression
that Mr.. Payne was unfriendly toward
the Islands and the sugar industry here
has been exaggerated" said Governor
Carter yesterday, looking up from
copy of the Congressional Record he was
reading. "a careful reading of what
he really did say in Congress shows him
to be very fair man. / had myself
gained an impression of Mr.. Payne's
unfriendlness that the record does not
Justify. Mr.. Payne. for instance, did
not say that the Hawaiian planters
made a profit of ~ per cent. year.
What he did say was that the profit
was 81, which is vastly differenT
thing"
The debate to which the Governor
refers took place on the Philippine
tariff bill in the House of Representa-
tives on January A, and was led by
Payne of New York for the passage of
the bill as chairman of the Ways and
Means Committee. In the course of the
debate Mr.. PAYNE said:
"Now, Mr.. Chairman, wnat will he
the effect of the passage of this bill
reducing this rate of duty to 80 cents
hundred pounds, or third of cent
pound, upon the sugar industry of the
Philippine Islandsl l do not believe it
is going to give them "A market in the
United States. do not believe it is
relief enough to help them here-at
least am very much in doubt about it
for the three years that this duty is
to be placed upon the sugar. 1t will
stimulate the price in China. We have
examined a good deal into the price of
IN ell lg lar
their present methods, which, of course,
could be improved if we could get the
capital to go over there; and yet with
the improved methods in the Hawaiian
Islands, they do not seem to have revo-
lutioniZed the cost of sugar. They
have better sugar lands there than they
have in the Philippine Islands. They
have had free sugar into the United
States for about thirty years-abso-
lutely free. They have built up an in
| dustry there in the Hawaiian Islands
| of 100000 tons year. They have
some very rich lands. They have some
lands there that have produced the
record crop of the world. / saw some
land near Pearl Harbor-land bought
| by the government of the United
States, but now under the control of
the owners on a certain leasehold ar
rangement-where they told me that in
one year they had produced eleven and
twelve tons of sugar per acre. The
managers of that plantation say that
| they do not think that the extra
amount of sugar pays for the extra ex-
pense in cultivation and in fertilizing.' -
Mr.. McGavin-I would like to ask
| the gentleman from New York what the
reason is for excluding sugar from the
absolutely free listl
Mr.. Payne-l am sorry that my
friend was not here when / commenced.
| said that the only reason was for the
sake of revenue. They need the rev.
enue. There is no other reason, that l
| know of.
The gentleman from New York then
touched upon the amount of revenue
produced by sugar, and continues; 81
remember now that | was talking about
Hawaii, and free sugar there, and the
result. Mr.. Hatch, who is retained by
the business people of Hawaii to look
after their interests in Washington, ap.
peared before the COMMITTEES. He does
not want this bin ia pass, and they do
not want this lill 10 pass. They ara
afraid that il will ieopardize something
in Hawaii if this w passos. still, he
tells abont the result there. While
these lnpds that ! have referred TO pro.
i luce eleven 10 twelve tons ner acre on
this one plantation, they are able to