The Salt Lake tribune. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1890-current, 1906-10-20

not having the men arrested at that
time.
Q.-You were interested in getting
the money back2
Al was interested in getting the
money back for McWhirter.
Q-Did you think it would delay the
getting back of the money if the men
were arrested?
Aft those two men were arrested,
yes. / didn't regard these two men
as of greatest Importance.
Q;-What satisfied you that they were
local msn7
A-Thc familiarity with which they
conducted business with the Chief,
Q-What business had they conduct
ed with the Chief
Al had the McWhirters statement
Of that.
Q.-What one-Bell2
A-Yes
Q.-Didn't McWhirter tell You the
Chief didn t know Bell
A.-Yes, but l didn t believe it.
Q;-Did you know the o 'Briens were
local men?
A.-They had been here for some
time.
Q-They had only come in August7
in June and July.
Q.-Didn u you know that they were
not known here7
A.-They were known hereY
Q.-How do you know?
A.-Because T spoke TO gambling
men who knew them.
Q.-Who were they3
A.-John Foote and B. +. CafeY.
Q.-Caffey is not a gambler?
A.-Caffey is not a gambler, but
knew them,
Q.-You never knew of them being
charged with any otfense here7
A-No, l don't know of them being
charged with any offense.
Q.-The only man that you knew
that the Chief knew was Donaldson?
Q.-And he was the only one in the
crowd that you know?
A.-Yes, that I knew.
Wanted to Get Money Back.
Q-During the time that you were
acting for McWhirter you were look
ing for a way 10 get the money, or
part OF it, returned2
A.-Yes.
Q-That IS what he came to you for7
A.-Well, no. He came to me for
that and to receive my advice as to
what he should do.
Q.-And you suggested that the
Chief was mixed up in iti
A.-When 1 heard his story l did,
yes.
I made inquiries for Donaldson and
I learned from Mr., Caffey that Donald
son had been seen Saturday night. l
incurred of several other people and
none OF them had seen nm Tor a 1ew
days.
o.-Did Caffey know that this trick
had been turnedf
Al gave him some of the details
of it,
Q.-And you told him you suspected
Donaldson?
Ayes, sir,
Q.-And he told you that he saw
Donaldson on Saturday night2
O.-Did he tell you where he saw
A.-Yes, he said he saw him about
the Kenyon hotel and he was IN
hurry,
Q.-Now you weren t ready to have
Donaldson arrested at that timer
0.-Why didn' It you have him ar
rested?
A.-Donaldson wasn't ready to be ar
rested. He was out of the city,
Q.-How do you know he was not in
the city?
Ale could not be found.
Q.-You got the information as to
Donaldson and the information In re-
gard to the two bogus policemen on
the same day and nights
Ayes.
Q.-And you weren' It ready to have
ANYBODY arrested at that tlme3
A.-Not just under those clrcum-
stances,
Q.-You were looking further for the
money!
Ayes.
He did not send McWhirter and Pen
dergass to see the Chief. Pendergass
was there when the deputy sheriff was
there, and the suggestion was made.
Instructions to Pendergass.
Odd you give instructions to Nc
Whirter and Pendergass what TO do
and say when they went to the Chief s
office'
Al don't think I did. I think [
made some suggestions as to the course
of their inquiry.
Q.-Told them TO take notes and
make q statement of what he did
Al told them to make memoran-
dunn of what was said.
Q.-Whep they came back they did
make statement for you?
Ayes. They were not in the form
of an affidavit, He furnished the
County Attorney with the statement.
He put himself in communication with
the County Attorneys office the day
after he had his conversation with the
Chief. He ceased his active work when
he turned over the case to the County
Attorney. He told McWhirter that his
eyes were in such condition that he
could not continue actively,
A.-You are still in it, then7
Al am still in it TO certain ex'
tent, yes.