The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1906-02-22

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Are these men any better than I am?
II public money has found its way
into officials private pockets, it is
your duty to investigate it and not
honeyEfuggle, but go to the bottom In
any way possible. (Applause).
MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING IN IT.
Chairman Hay: Where is your au
thority for that?"
Senator Tillman: II am giving cir
cumstsntial evidence coupled with
various. statements that have been
brought out in evidence and 1t Is in
evitably my conclusion that no man
would prostitute his Office and disobey
the law 80 brszenly and openly iI
making purchases for the state, at
these exorbitant rates over and above
prices people In other states are Fay
ing, If there was not something in it
for him. That is the logic Of the sit
ustion. Oircumstantial evidence Is
the strongest evidence when it will
hold, and it is very week when 1t will
not hold. Why would any man object
TO his private affairs being investiga-
ted If his charac!er is involved? !
cannot see how any man can refuse to
have the fullest investigation made
in a financial way or In anV. other way
If his name is involved. II he owns
any poperty he ought to be able to
explain where he got it and where the
money came from"
Senator TIllman then went into q
minute description Of the brands OF
whiskey that had been bought urder.
his administration, his "trip to d;ff.1-
ent parts Of the whiskey sections OF
the country, the manner of manufat-
turing the different brands, the pr. ces
paid for same and the manner In
which purchased.
OPPOSED BAD WHIsKEY. -
Mr. Lyon: did you ever request
Gov. McSheeney to make any pu,-
chase from the Mill Greek Distilery
Co., at higher price than tine Ross
o.. ffsred, and If so what was paid
On it?"
Senator Tillman: II do not recol-
lect that l ever did, probsbly did. I
thought the man who stood by the
In Its infancy ought not to
be thrown overheard, because some
rectifler from Baltimore or elsewhere
would come down here and offer rot
gut TO us as lower prices"
Mr.. Lyon: $50 far as am inform
ed the committee has no other ques-,
tion to ask, unless some lndivic ual
member has or the board of directors
who stand under accusation "a I ub-'
derstand It. They may possibly de-
sire to be heard through their repre-
sentatiXes."
QUESTIONED BY DEFDNsE.
General Bellipger, who represents
the directors Beykin and Towill, pre-
ceeded to- question Senator Till
man.
Your intention in cff5rirg your
to the committee was to testify as O.
II did not offer myself to the con-
mittee except under this COL dltion:
The newspapers were sneering and
using every imaginable argument
against the dispensary and sug 1estec
that Senator Tillman ought to come
before the committee and tel, wha
be knows. I had been making
speeches and feeling then as now.
vas willing to give any light I could
did not have as, nuch infor nation
then as now but I was ready to az.
pear before the committee VIII snevel
hey, wanted me-"
@ Your idea in coming before
he committee was to n axe q speech
before the committee was 1t not, or tt
esully b. facts which you yourself
ere acqnain' ed with ?"
A. II did not feel like making a
speech. I have plenty Of opportuni-
Ties to make speech.s.
@ You will please answer my
question Senator. Your intention In
coming before the committee was for
what purposer" it
a ITO make a suggestion, that
they might get truth,
c. did you not on several occa-
'ions at various places in this state,
Ind perhaps in Washington once OF
twice, state that there WAS collusion
md fraud and you could prove IT."
A. What I stated was in the
papers.
@. That you could prove 1t?
A. That I could prove it from cir
evidence, which I have
ldduced.
@. You wanted to come here to
indicate yourself?
A. I have nothing to vindicate.
Nobody has charged me with any
5hing. What do you mean by Vind4-
,ating my position?
O.. When you charged the dispen'
,ary board, the present managers OF
that board, with fraud, AID stated
that the dispensarY system was good
and ouD thing to do was to turl
out 20 pre-. ent thieves, Is that the
DOB '"- yon desired to come down
mere and sustain yourself OIL?
A. I did not desire to come here
1t all, If somebody had not asked THAI
come and you are the very mao, 1t
believe who did. But for that I WOu d
be In Washington nov.
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