New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1906-03-25
LII ELIGIBLE.
old Cup Challenger May Race for
the Kings Cup.

Yachting men in and about New York dis
played the keenest interest yesterday IN the pos
sibility Of Shamrock III being commissioned
by Sir Thomas Upton and raced for the Kings
Cup off Newport in August. When the posi-
bility was first suggested, at the time the offer
Of the Kings Cup was received by the New York
Yacht Club. when its peculiar wording-Open TO
any yacht enrolled in any American yacht club
was noticed the splendid chance it gave Sir
Thomas was remarked. Under this provision
Shamrock III and the Meteor and the Britannia
are eligible, and the possibility Of Sir Thomas
taking advantage Of this opportunity appeared
too good to be ignored.
Later however, the peculiar situation was lost
sight Of and it was not until the suggestion was
made that Sir Thomas was coming TO America
this summer ito act as judge in the Upton Cup
race" that further significance was attached to
it, Then investigation revealed the fact that
Sir Thomas had been quietly conducting an in
curry as to conditions, evidently with the idea
Of feeling the American pulse. Further, it was
learned that the intimation was conveyed to Sir
Thomas that King Edward would not be dis
pleased if the first race for the cup ne offered
were to develop considerable international
importance
American yachtsmen were disposed yesterday
to regard Shamrock IT'S entry in its bearing
on the Americas Cup. They felt that 1t was a
clever .ruse to race a cup challenger against
crD defender under the new American rule Of
rating It was conceded that Shamrock III
would rate spIendidly under the new rule. and
that the Reliance would he greatly handicapped,
so the experts did not believe the Reliance
would be entered under any conditions. With
the Columbia or the Constitution II would be
different Either or both could be entered in
the race. and both would rate as well as sham
rock III Yachtsmen felt that either or both
could take care Of the English boat
AS a matter Of fact, Shamrock III would
probably rate below 100 under the new rule.
At least this is the opinion expressed by c. u.
Mower. who measured Shamrock III under the
old rule for the cup races This is a big ad-
vance over 1927 as she rated under the old
rule. and a gain on the Columbia and the Con
stitution.
o-The overall length Of Shamrock III IS 49,
feet. her waterline length S9S1 and her beam
238." said Mr.. Mower. "I have not calculated
what her quarterbeam length would he, but.
as she has not excessive oyerhangs I do not
think it would be greatly increased. Her sail
spread would presumab bly, he the same, l433 ,"
square feet but her generous displacement
for she was full bodied boat compared TO the
others-would, ] am quite sure ornS her down
..Tbe Columbia would rate well against her.
since the Columbia's overall length was less
Than l92 and her waterlIne length S9-II. with
her beam "A p and she only carried something
over 1900 square feet Of sail. Her length fac
tor on the quarterbeam measurement would not
be greatly Increased and her smaller displace-
meut would operate, / think, TO bring her to
nearly the same rating. The two would be ad-
rnIrablv mated and furnish great sport
II is interesting 20 note the allowance that
would be made leading yachts mentioned for
fbe race assuming Shamrock III and the Co
Iurnbia rate at 100, as estimated over forty
mile course. They would range