New-York tribune., 1906-11-21
ARMOUR PUT ON STAND.
Denies Kno1oledge of Reboting-
Accountants Tell of Evidence.

Milwaukee. Nov 20-J. Ogden Armour was
the most important witness who appeared be-
fore the investigating committee of the Inter
state Commerce Commission to-day
You are stockholder in the ST. Paul road?''
the first question put to Mr.. Armour by
Attorney Marble
u am" replied the witness.
DO you own stock in any other railroad COM
paries, Mr.. Armour" asked the attorney.
After few moments of deep thought. Mr.. Ar
mour admitted that, while being somewhat un-
certain the question, he was of the opinion
that he did own some stock in some other roads
Which ones. please?" insistently inquired the
attorney
We'll. believe own some stock in the Penn
sylvania lines and in the Union Pacific" an
swered the witness.
How much do you own in the st. Paul road %
was asked
Well think own somewhere between 30
600 and 10000 shares of the St. Paul road
stock"
DO you any stock in any grain compa-
nies?'
Yes, in the Armour Grain Company and some
DO you own the controlling interest in the
Armour Grain Company"
Yes sir
MI Armour was then asked regarding the
ownership of certain other elevator companies
having elevators the lines of the St Paul
road the Burlington and others. He testified
tnat the companies in questiOn-the Atlas COM
panV. the Neola and others-are entirely owned
by the Armour Grain Company, and that he
might be considered owning the controlling
interest in them by reason of that fact.
DO YOU know of any instances of favoritism
shown to you a shipper because of the stock
owned by you in the railroads you have named ?"
Mr. Armour said he unaware OF any spe-
cial faVoTS shown him, and repeated the state
meDt when asked as TO specific instances He
denied any knowledge of any rebating or other
forms Of fayortism
o. w Mosher, formerly State Senator and
now connected with the Northern Grain Com
pany, OF Manitowoc, which has eighty elevators
on the Northwestern and Wisconsin Central
railroads. testified that r Weyerhauser Of
Minneapolis, a director i'm the Great Northern
road. was largely interested in the Northern
Gram Company, that the company had been or
ganlzed fifteen years ago, and when its dividends
reached 20 per cent there had been a large
STOCK dividend Since then it had paid three
dividends of 10 per cent each
Mosher was asked if The Northern Grain
Company had received any rebates from rail
roads. ~ "
We have had money refunded US I never
received any personally he answered 'I have
always presumed that the amounts refunded
we're legitimate"
Nice-President McCullough Of the CHICAGO &
Northwestern Railway denied that he had anv
snare. directly or indirectly. in any grain com
H1ny' ana said that so far as he knew no other
oiIc@r of me Northwestern road had any
T.. W. Gilman and +. c Mason evnert ar
ccuntants employed by State Railroad Commis-
sicner j. w. Thomas, told OF their inNes-.oation
Of the books of the railroads Operating q, VIE
consin, and of their discovery OF large sums of
money PAID IN the form of alleged rebates mem
uonirg the Armour Grain CoInpanv narticnI,r
~ being credited with large sums
The commission ended its Milwaukee hearing
this evening. and adjourned TO meet at Mime
acolls.