New-York tribune., 1906-06-26
ORDER in THE MORNING

first conference agreement" replied Senator
Tillman. but nobody ever heard such hurrah
or stampede there over it. or such an
exhibition of oratory or something that passed
for it"
FORAKER STANDS BY CONFERREES.
Senator Foraker contended tha. there was
no proper analogy between a RAILROAD and
pipe line. As a rule. he said, pipe lines are not
built with the purpose of doing a carrying
business for hire. which is not the case with
railroads. He believed that 20 retain the COM
modify provision as 1t passed the House would
be to confscate the property, and that there
fore it would not have been sustained by the
courts; hence he going 20 say that ne
thought the conferrees had acted wisely. az the
risk of being branded in the estimation OF Ny.
Tillman by the Standard Oil Company
The Ohio Senator called attention 10 the fact
that carriers by water are not regulated by tne
bill, which, he said, did away with the argument
that the bill should be made applicable 10 all
modes of transportation.
Senator Nelson thought the report ought to be
rejected because of the discriminatory character
of the anti-pasS provision
Senator Cullom, of the conferrees. agreed
with Mr. Tillman that the present report VIass was
not good the first ono. He had originally
stood with Mr.. Tillman for everything calculated
to injure the Standard Oil Company, but since
then he had received many protests from inde-
pendent oil producers in his state, in
which he had absolute confidence. He was not
willing to punish his own people merely Ior the
purpose of furnishing the Standard Oh COM
MIR Mr.. CuIlom defended the anti-pass provision,
but Senator Bacon contended that IL was III
violation of the spirit of the entire bill.
Senator GaIlinger called attention 10 the pass
exception in favor of the Postofhce Departlneht,
saving that under IL passes could be given 10
everv official and emplOye in that service.
Senator Lodge could no justice in making
an exception of pipe lines as common carriers
He also objected to the ant-pass provision ex-
cepting persons engaged in the postal service.
and Mr.. Tillman replied that the htentioI Iidu
al ole
for Transportation which would cost the govern
ment not less than S15.OO0OOO annually.
Mr. Lodge declared the pass provision actual
" authorizes and invites a method of discrimi-
nation which constitutes valuable rebate IN
favor OF favored shipper. it strikes at the cen.
tral principle and endangers some or the most
important provisions of the bill" He said there
is nothing TO prevent the railroads giving passes
to delegates to political conventions
Senator CIapp expressed the opinion that the
pass amendment as reported was an absolute re-
peal of parts of the Cullom law
The postal service exception was also critt-
cised ty Senator Spooner He said IL puts 1t in
the power of the railroads To substitute passes
for rebates and it leaves Senator or nehl-
ber of the House as free to accept pass as be
fore, as they not officers of the United
what. then. are they?" demanded Mr. Till
man "Nondescripts? - and added, "All can
say we were trying powerful hard TO keep Sen
ators and members out of getting passes
Mr.. Spooner said that Senator or member IS
"a part of the government" and not ''in the ser
vice Of the government" and he read from de-
CtSlOnS
contention He said he had doubt of the
GOOD intentions OF the conferrees-
We'll. then. pity our ignorance. said Mr TIL
man Il do not charge the conferrees with tS-
norance" responded Mr.. Spooner. They were
only tired"
TILI4MAN TIRED To DEATH
I'VE are tired all right" responded Mr. Till
man: IT am tired unto death"
Mr. Spooner thought Senators and Represen-
tatives should be included by name. and said the
pending provision would not inclhde the Prest-
dent or federal judges. Mr.. Hepburn criticised
the exemption of lumber from the commodity
provision as In the interests OF trunk railroads
which he said are already constructing sawmills
that will drive all competitors out of business.
Senator McLaurin declared that the position
of Mr.. Spooner that Senators and members OF
Congress are not officers of the United States
lis wanting in every principle of reason.
When at o'clock Mr.. Timan appealed to him
to desist and allow the bill to go back to con-
ference Mr. McLaurin objected saying Mr.. Ttl-
man had spoken on this measure ten times as
much a G he had.