Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1906-08-11


quote the passage to show that II is
not my own plan. The matter OF IT'S
origin. however really has nothing TO
DO With this dispute as indeed the
idea itself has not
THE EXPENSES.
Mr. Thoresen finds considerable cause
for complaint IN my statement that the
demands OF the Agricultural college on
the last legislature exceeded those
made by the combined university. the
normal schools, and the school OF mines.
And he opposes this By the following.
Il find on page ~ OF the report Of the
board Of regents OF the university sub
mittcd 20 the last legislature, that the
request for the past bienuium was
{3ll2bl. The entire amount asked for
by the college was S2S2.ls0. II we add
to this the amount received from the
federal government during the BIZ
ennium. $50 900. The total amount would
be 1882 1870 But n the income from the
federal government Is added 10 the
amount asked from the legislature by
the college, the income from the land
grant fund fthe university must also
be added 10 the amount requested from
the legislature by the university The
figures, as he gives them, then become:
university demand. ilI,26l. nearly
100000 more than the amount asked for
by the college,
Well these figures are wrong A it,
tie careful examination Of the report
Of the board Of regents would show
Mir Thoresen that the 1871, 26l Is merely
an estimate made by the heads OF de-
partments. and includes the branch
normal. Page 10 will give him the
amount asked for by the regents,
which IS S295,i3l. exclusive OF $40 900
for the branch normal The university
expected TO get $40 900 from the interest
on the land fund and the Agricultural
college expected TO get $4,000 from the
for instruction work ana
the experiment station, besides $4,000
from the interest on the land fund. The
figures. therefore, are: Request OF the
S375.4Sl; the college, sSsl,l9O.
a difference OF $3.50 asked for by the
college.
These figures do not. however, reveal
the situation az 1t is MI Thoresen
must remember that Il is not the Agrl-
culture college as against the unlver-
slty. but rather the Agricultural col
lege as against thre. Institutions
the University OF Utah. the
state normal school, and the state
school OF mines. When this fact IS
kept in mind the comparatively ex-
orbtant demands Of the Logan school
on the public purse becomes amazingly
clear Let me explain by comparison
of our own state schools with those OF
Colorado.
In our sister state the institutions
are separate That Is. the four schools
are IN four different places. Now,
for the years 1908 and 1904 the appro-
priatlons were;
To the mining school ,,....il39,55ii6
To the normal school 10000. 100000
To the agricultural college .. lS6,s44.66
To the university ......".,,. ssOOO'V0
Or. to set the figures as they would
appear II, as with us. there were
OF the university, the nor
NAL school, and the school Of mines.
To the agricultural college ..NS6,sit66
To all the others ..,.".....,.' ofs'0oi.eo
The point that I call special atten-
ton to In these figures Is, the difference
between the abount given the Agricul-
tural college and the other three
schools In Utah the college receives
actually a larger amount than DO the
three others, whereas IN Colorado the
same Institutions get more than four
times the amount To be sure, II there
were a combination. as here. the separ-
ate schools would not receive the same
a bsolute amount, but there would be
the same relative difference between
the three institutions on the one hand
and the one on the other Was | not,
therefore justified In my complaint OF a
extravaganza with respect
TO the Agricultural college | could
even concede the correctness Of Mr..
figures without having
10 relinQuish my point.
THE EXTRAVAGANCE is.
Exception is also taken to my state
ment that other schools In the state are
affected by the separate maintenance
of the college. And Nj Thoresen wakes
hot In charging the university with be-
Ing extrayagant, and IN suggesting a
remedy. "Our professors have gone
abroad" he declares. "and seen what
tho world renowned institutions are do
Ing. and without regard 70 the finances
OF our new and small commonwealth
or the preparatory educational status Of
our students. numbers or grades. have
introduced and established such courses
IN our institutions, and have then APP
peared before our legislature for mon-
eys TO support the same"
Let us look into this matter a little
further.
Mr. Thoresen and / agree that the
population Of our state is meagre, the
resources slender, education COMPARE
lively elementary. So much the more
reason, therefore, as We both admit, for
economy IN the expenditure Of the pub
lie funds. Mr.. Thoresen's plan Of
economy Is TO 60 behind these ex-
travagant and unwise demands and cut
them down on their merits This
means. OF course, that these two insti.
tutlOns viii be maintained second rate.
The consequence will be, that our
young men viii 20 east and west for
their undergraduate woTk-not all. but
at least as great number as 90 nov.
Besides, the educational interests OF the
state will suffer, as well as It's reputa-
ton in a point Of which We have al
ways Justly been proud. Certainly, Mr..
the educational expenses can
be cut down, cut down 10 any point
that needless statcsn.hnShip may deem
fit. Does not your cry Of economy seem
what you charge mine with being-a
sound 10 the galleries?
Wholly different from this is the plan
suggested by the friends Of higher edu-
cation in Utah. They reason thus: Here
is the Agricultural college asking more
than 32s?0o0. This large amount is due
TO its separate maintenance. II It were
combined with the university. as the
other schools are. IL would require only
~ that sum as much prob
ably as the school Of mines Then. IN
stead Of college students costing The