Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1906-12-11
THEATRICAL TR0UPES
THEY AND CoAsTwIsE STEAM
SHIPS DIVIDED INTEREST
Of the Interstate Commerce Commits
sion Today-Both Subjects
Were Held Over.


Coastwise steamships and theatrical COM
panies divided the interest of the inter-
state commerce commission today. There
was almost full meeting of the commits
sion, and there were present officials and
counsel of a number of railroads and steam
ship companies. Attention of the commits
| sion had been called by the Great Northern
Railway to the question of whether or not
1t had control over the rates of the Can
adam Pacific. that road being British car
rier, but doing business with the United
States on a joint rate basis through the
Pacific Coast Steamship Company from
Vancouver to San Francisco
c. s. Hamlin, representative of the Can
adam Pacific, was present and said that
Whlie II was true the railway company was
owned and operated outside the United
states, it was perfectly willing to file its
Joint tariffs with the interstate commerce
commission wherever they affected United
states traffic. He said that there had been
procedure in filing some of its Joint tariffs
but II the commission would signify the
| method 1t preferred the Canadian Pacific
would be pleased to comply.
Wanted a Ruling.
This was very smooth and satisfactory
But Mr.. j. c. Stubs of the Union Pacific
said he would like to call the attention of
the COMMISSION 10 the fact that - If the
Canadian Pacific filed it's joint rate with
the commission 1t was doing merely as a
| matter of courtesy and he would like to
| have ruling on the subject to determine
whether the counsel of the Union Pacific
mad correctly informed him by saying the
interstate commerce commission had no
control whatever over steamship line
doing business with foreign railway
| Mr. Stubbs said the matter was of par
ticular interest to his road for the following
| Dor 40 ,zs41
freight at New Orleans and Galveston that
| had been brought there from New York
| They carried 1t through the United States
and billed it on to Mexico City there being
| a joint rate for the whole distance from
New York. This tariff was, of course, filed
with the Interstate commerce commission.
But competing with this rail and water line
there was another route, the Ward line,
which carried freight from New York to
| Tampico, Mex, and thence billed it
through to Mexico City. The Ward line, he
| Mexico City, but it had never filed the
| tariff with the interstate commerce COM
mission and held that it was not under the
jurisdiction of the commission for this class
| of business.
He said the case was exactly parallel
with the case Of the Canadian railway
and the Pacific Coast Steamship Com
pany, and he wanted a ruling on both
| cases to see whether he could not elm
| mate what he claimed was unfair COM
petition in the Mexican trade. He said
|
| over a steamship line doing this class
of international business he wanted to
know it.
| Chairman Knapp of the interstate COM
merce commission did not attempt to
| make ruling on the subject at once.
He announced that representative of
| the Pacific Coast Steamship Company
was now on his way to Washington and
| would be here some time today. So this
phase of the hearing was adjourned till
the afternoon.
Joint Rate Theatrical Tickets.
| The matter of joint rate theatrical
| tickets was taken up. Ed Baxter, special
counsel for the Louisville and Nashville
road, speaking for the railways. He
| held that the railroads under the law had
a right to build up their business by CIV
ing special rates to organizations of peo- :
pie. This developed the question of
what classes of people could be included
| in the reduced rates. Mr.. Lane wanted
to know If there was any difference be-
tween issuing special rates to theatre
cal troupe or to party of laborers, and
If an aggregation Of oyster shuckcrs
A., travelling from the interior to the coast
were not just as much entitled to a spe-
cial rate as an operate organization.
Then Mr.. Clark asked If an operate COM
pany could be granted special rate,
why concert star travelling alone might
| not claim the same privilege, and, fol-
lowing the matter to logical conclusion
whether there should be any difference
| made between a theatrical star and a
revivalist. Chairman Knapp suggested
| that this would lead to the establishment
of as many different rates as there were
classes of people in the United States,
and Mr.. Baxter replied that he did not
| see why there should not be as many
different rates on passengers as there
were on classes of merchandise.
No decision was reached, and the matter
was allowed to go over for an official ruling
| from the commission.
Those present at the hearing were: Ed.
Baxter, special counsel, Louisville and
Nashville railway; w. H. Tayloe, general
passenger agent, 500 railway; E. G. War
field. F. T. NJ, Mallory line; ]. c. Stubs,
traffic director, Union Pacific railway; s.
M. Stevenson, manager Virginia, Tennessee
| and Georgia railway; E. ". Skinner, as
sistant traffic manager, Canadian Pacific
railway; L. ]. Spence, general freight agent,
Southern Pacific Company; Charles M.
Head; c. s. Hamlin, Boston, Mass; w. v.
Wells, agent, Mallory line; l.. E. Payson,
Union Pacific Railroad Company; p S.
Eustis, passenger traffic manager, c., B.
and Q. railway; c C. Mccain, Commission
Lake Line Association, Buffalo, N Y; T.
D. Mott, jr.; Dwight w. Morrow, Simpson,
Thacher & Bartlett, representing Pacific
Coast Steamship Company; s. H. Hardwich,
passenger traffic manager, Southern gail
way; w. r. Machines, F. T. Mngr, Cana
dian Pacific railway; E. L. Forester; James
A. Twohey, council Canadian Pacific rail-
way.