New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1906-02-07
nrRATE on TREATIES.
epoONER-BACON TILT.
-, Listens to Discussion of Its
po.cer and Rights.

he diseu ren,ocratic caucus to-day. but gave
sffon " sv 10 considering the prerogatiVes OF the
~ err she matter 81 framing treaties Inc
sena' IS raised by Mr. Bacon in speech On
cuesuo ,,tton requesting Information concernihs
hs conference He talked for almost
tie Az ID was followed by Mr.. Spooner, who
three 30 ,orsl5erably more than hour. Both
spoke 40 - interspersed with debate. largely
seeohes - Racon and SDooner. and there
Si"es- ~ three sharp clashes between them.
Eef patterson yielded the floor at the beeltiilihs
NJ - sitting 10 Mr Bacon, giving notice
q me oNs 49, sneak on his resolution tomorrow.
thai az eve notice Of speech Monday on the
D. N+e hill Mr. Bacon. in beginning his
EsAie~@ ,nolnced that he meant TO be entirely
So and said that there was no Justlncauoh
bNf .srre. that this discussion was an assam
b 'ns ssrt occupant Of the executive chair.
q s,,qtt such construction an evidence OF INC
be - of the opposing side The speech was N
se'N' -. ,lea for the right OF the Senate TO 'ad-
DC - - consent ia the negotiation Of treaties
VS. - largely a reply 10 Mr. Spooners recent
- On tins question
lid he knew OF his cwn experience mat II
7. .tssn tie practice Of Secretary hay 10 coiAis
a sa,etors ~ al stages OF the negotiations u
" -sr before entering upon the negoua-
~. cited especially the Alaskan and the
rsrsrsl arbitration treaties
a. srooue- asked Mr. Bacon If he considered
.bs sutv OF q Senator 10 give advice 10 the
.-rive when asked. anC Mr.. Bacon repll0u
: - affirmative. Mr. Foraker interrupted win
.,as-ion growing out of The action OF The beiAo-
- caucus OF last Saturday on the Dominica"
- calling attention TO Mr. BacOns conteh-
- a. 10 lie duty Of Senators to advise the eA-
sg,tive he asked II the Georgia Senator iAoush'
.-ts, parry caucus ought TO be permitted 10
.or5 i- the way OF "a Senator's performing his
dgU
Az lzsran reulied sharply that he did not know
@ ION han T.
ker 10 reply 10 such question himself buI ne
,,,sfse5 me statement So 10 deprive IL or It's
ra-soaal application. and said that on account OF
reasons satisfactory 10 themselves. ana because
a farcecuI influences brought To bear on them'
MANY Senators had beeu brought 10 give their
adhesion 70 measures which they lid not approve
DECLINES TO DISCUSS POINT
Nj Foraker replied that the Republican Senators
had uo binding caucu-es. but only conferences TOT
the exchange Ct views. and that he had never
known az q treaty being considered IN caucus or
conference hy either party until Iast Saturday. Nj
Bacon declined 10 discuss the point further. saying
tha he would not anticipate what would be
most interesting performance tomorrow. lie added
tia, If Tho Republicans had 40 binding caucuses It
MAS because they Were controlled by Z more po-
tent influence.
NJ. Bacon couteuded that Congress was in far
greater danger az encroachnent from the Execu-
tive than was he Executive from the Congress
who doesn't know" he asked. that the most in
auental part Of The legislative power is the
o,her end Of Fenusy ivanla-aye, in the White
House I don't refer ~ the present occupant. but
70 al the occupants Of the past generation" He
added. however. that the tendency had never been
more pronounced than it was to-day. that the pres
err Executive was as much inclined TO assert him
SCI rs had been any of his predecessors, and that
b. had recently read in the newspapers that the
rock market had gone either up or down in con
sequence OF The announced position Of the President
o. particular measure.
He commended that II The United States should
srahilsh the precedent Of taking charge OF the
.scal affairs Of Sauto Domingo conditions were
Elch in other South and Central American coun-
tires as 70 render fl probable that this country
would assume similar duties there
Not only are We 10 take or this ulcerous sore
this pestiferous cancer Of Santa Domingo. but like
duues are liable 70 D. assumed and like calamities
are -anle 20 hefal Us IN other countries" he as
serted lie cited the condition Of affairs IN Costa
iiIfa, saying they were similar 10 those in santo
-''A-lea The last statement caused Nj TflInan
tt ask II The State Department has 2 document
IKE me DllnSham treaty 10 s-ring on the conn
ny ana Nhen M Bacon said he had M in
'l1'''' 10 taf effect the South Carolina San
INSISTED lhai Mr. Lodge SHOULD throw light
'-'.'0.- AfIef some urging Mr. Lodge
- NJ kh-" or no such agreement. and ad1az.
'e trouble about throwing light on = subia., g
~ ''lal'f from South Carolina Is that he 5oesn,,
CITY '"''ef after be gets The light"
A-510 lRAs a POWDER HOUSE"
az bacon declared thar not only had the Senate
~ 's-l To- share in The negotiation OF = treat,,
--eN l- was perfectly competent for the Senate
.--i.-al4 "a treaty and send il To the President
INNS 10 me Algeciras conference he said.
mere in O. powder house. which may ex-
l'-' @' any ime-iu house with parties who may
-itni ELECTED smile from Mr. Snooner and
-1 macon insisted upon knowing why NJ
~ 'eI.-a That be- was thinking Of the IN
~ '' '"e men 10 hat 'powcer house
- '' said iaat al Europe was aligned be
-" france and Germany IN authorization Of
var over t-.a Moroccan ogesrfor and h 80
- .ai.- dispatch 10 ''The washington POST
.-i''l ny The statement He ended by saving
'l.ea states shouIc couhne itself TO its
NJ spooaer followed Mr.. Bacon declaring his
.--oi mat IL was the duty. Of the President IN
&C oeiesstes % AIgeciras He thought his com
-'- A"t again soon be- invited 10 4 confer
- Ike ilaJ at Ageciras. lie then stated that
Ae" l' ta ae "a lact that Austria and italy had
srs5-C-. attend the conference If all the powers
Tree t' me treaty Of lss0 including the
II .ea,aIes. did NOT attend. Now" he added
eresr ro NJ On earth prevents war between two
rt1l" rts- lgtI friendly To Us il viii be the as
a. j Egess na The deliberation or this conference
co. ~ Z coloquy be-weeu Mr.. spooner and Mr.. Ba-
riras.-e lng tie resolution which the latter had
roorr -. ashlng Tor Information concerning Mo
N slll- neat was Clspla yed by both Senators
gbo,-Ss l'ier said The request for Information
EuIS t as '-ei made IN secret session, and there
80 nave been opposition
ob3eo. q -A secret session. and the Senator did
~ -ec DIT. Bacon, sharply
lr'-o- sI9oue7 said the Introduction OF the reso-
s65eg. open session was grossly unfair" and
% 49, -le intention was 10 bring the President
NJ Dtiore the people Of the United States"
Dede6 -r' gre" rec as MI Spooner pro-
a., resent, he said. and repeated the express
,her DF.oie M sDooner finished his sentence. and
N having collected himself somewhat saidi
= r-lsit ana emphaucally and so far as can do
ht.ou '-''ois usage resent me ifnpu-
lsisr.. eIooner was quick in his disavowal of any
hi .-9i ~ offend saying that he had not wished
d stcl-o-Ie any motive beyond that on the face
ne solution The debate then rrocaedeH on