The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1906-01-30
DAWES ON THE STAND.
He Tells of Introducing Garfield to
Packers Attorney.

Chicago, Jan. 30.-Louis c. Krauth-
off again took the stand today when
the trial which is to determine wheth-
err or not the packers are entitled to
District Attorney Morrison finished
his crOss-examinatiOn last evening,
and Attorney Miller, for the packers,
resumed the direct examination.
The witness was asked many ques-
tiOnS regarding his opinion of the law
under which the immunity is claimed
by the packers, with the resUS$ that
the district attorney objected to al
most every question hat was asked,
and numerous arguments between
counsel followed.
After numerous objections had been
disposed of by the court. Attorney
Miller said: Nov. I offer to prove
7 object to his saying that they
offer to prove anything before the
Judge" said District Attorney Morri-
son.
did you from your examination of
the law" Mr.. Miller, asked the witness,
"have an opinion as to the liability of
your clients in case they should refuse
to comply with Commissioner Garield's
requirements? p"
The district attorney again objected.
and the court ruled that the point had
already been covered by the witness.
IT should now like to offer to prove
that this witness advied hi client upon
their iabilitie if they refued Garf1eld's
requirements and what I offer to
prove" said Attorney Miller.
ITO which we object" said the dis
trict attorney.
objection sustained" said the court
Record Is Preserved.
Mr. Miller then went before the bench
of the court and in To- ines dictated
to the StenOgrap her q detailed statement
of what he offered to prove to the Jury
but which the court had ruled out. He
announced that he did this for the n''r-
pose of preserving the record of the
case. Tt was claimed by the attorneys
for the packers that the court erred in
ruling out what they Offered to prove"
Chas. G. Dawes, former comptroller
of the currency and president of the
Central Trust company of this city
was the second witness. He told of
introducing Commissioner Garfield to
Attorney Krauthooff. He said:
Commissioner Garfield. whom I
have known for years, called at my Of
fee and said he only wanted the in
formation from the packers in order
/ to enable him to make a full and COM
/ plete report I introduced him to Mr.
krauthof, and Mr.. McRoberts, and
told them they could rely on what
Garfield said, and that they could open
their books without as Garfield was
absolutely to be trusted and was a
gentleman. / was present at the Chi
cagO club and heard their conversa-
ton. Mr.. Garfield said that the in
4 formation given him by the packers
would be used by his department but
not by the department of justice. Gar
field said that he wanted the cC-Opera-
ton of the packers and the best way
would be for the packers to cooperate
with him. That was about the sub
/ stance of the conversation as I re-
call it."
/ On cross examination the story of Mr.
/ Dawes was not in any manner modified,
/ but the additional fact was brought out
/ that Commissioner Garfield said to Mr.
| Krauthcff that he was to report 20 the
president and that the packers need
not fear that anything would be done
! to injure them
Samuel McROberts, treasurer Of Ar
/ mour & Co., was then called. He was
/ the fourth person present at the inter
view between Commissioner Garfield
and MI Krauthoff at the Chicago club.
Mr.. McRoberts gave testimony agree
] ing with that of Mr. Krauthoff and
Mr.. Dawes. He declared that Commits
Isioner Garfield had informed Mr.. Krau-
! thOff that his department had nothing
/ to do with the department of justice
and that it could not and would not
work in conjunction with It. He de-
/ cIared that they are absolutely divorced
/ and that the law was so frarced that
I business men could feel free to give
! informatiO The witness declared that
/ Commissioner Garfield stated positively
4 that the in formation to be secured was
not for use in prosecutions nor would
it be given to the department of justice.