The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1906-07-19
He Is Said To Have Taken
Back Old Counsel
Belief That Defense Will Be Conducted
Along This Line--Writ Argument
Delay--Thaw's Mother and
Wife Meet in Tonlbs.

tefuaN on MIS- WfIaAu lifdW MOtHef on
Harry X. Ihaw. who killed stanford
White. gave every indications that al her
ilisisteIee her son had taken back an lis
counsel the firm Of Black. Olcott, 6rilber
& Bonynge and had aeqiiiesced iii It'll
views u conducting Ills ease. Accord
ing To report, tlu. mother has come 70
the same conclusion as that which for
mer Judge Olcott is said To have reached,
that the only way to save Thaw IS
through plea Of insanitys no matter
whether oil not that should land him
eventually in the AIatteaWail Asylum
for the Criminal Insane.
Mrs. Thaw Is said To have reached her
determination Tuesday night wilen she
held conference at the Hotel Lorraine
with Lewis u. llelaheld and MIR. Dic1tt.
She was az The Ionbs atsll o'clock yes
terdsy morning, accompanied BY her
daughter. Mrs George Lauder Carnegie
II was the first time that. MIR Carnegie
had seen her brother since the shooting
Strenuous Time with Thsw
After staying forty iiye minutes with
her son Mrs. Thaw and her daughter
came down. The eyes Of both women
we're red from weeping. Mrs. Thaw Ind
tn bp supported by Title younger Woman
~ she almost tottered through the pris-
on corridor and down the steps "a her
carriage. II was evident that the meet
ing bad been an emotional one
During their talk with young Thaw
ii was learned That the mother and
daughter bah tried hard u change biz
opinion about Ills counsel Isley used
fbeif utmost .endeayors 10 try and per
suade him 20 come 70 their way Of think
inc and to consent 60 allow Judge oil.
colts frnl 10 remain IN charge of the
case The result 81 their pleadings was
not learned then, but IL was rumored
that the prisoner needed but little more
persuasion 10 make him face about again
and repuIiate The lawyers he has re.
tanned IN opposition to bis family's
Wishes. Neither Mrs, Tbaw nor her
daughter would say anything about
their future plans.
Hurries Back to Tombs.
After their visit To the Tombs Mrs.
William Thaw and her daughter were
driven downtown. They returned III
about half an hour. The elder woman
APPEARED considerably agitated She want.
ed TO see her son right away, bnt as the
hour was outside the visiting time the
Warden hesitated at giving her TIE per-
mission. Finally he yielded to her ap.
peal, and Mrs. Thaw and Mrs. Carnegie
were again taken to the tier where Thaw
IS confined.
Young Mrs. Thaw Active, TOO.
III the meantime Mrs. EVELYN Nesbit
Ihaw. wife Of the prisoner, had also
been active. She had been at tile Tombs
at 1870 o'clock and saw her husband
for only few minutes. She had left
the prison before her mother inlaw ar
rived there.
The elder Mrs. Thaw had hardly
reached the Tombs the second time when
Young Mrs. Thaw returned accompanied
hy Clifford W. lIartridqe, the lawyer 10
whom Thaw turned over his case after
Ne dismissed the Oleott firm. Ii became
known then that Thaw had sent for his
wife, and when she reached the 10mbs
reception room he sent message To her
asking that She see him unaccompanied.
Mrs. Tllaw sspeated the message 10
'4Faftf1dge and tie lawyer remained BE-
hind willie the young woman went up
to the CELL
The Two Mrs Thaws Meet.
The elder and the Younger Mrs. Thaw
were IN trout of Harry Thaw's cell for
about ten minutes This was the first
time they had met in the Tombs. When
they we're about 10 leave Harfridge was
called upstairs. II is said that he was
then told that former Judge Oieott had
again been placed in full charge Of the
case. MIR. Hartridge was also assured,
II was said, that he would remain as
Harry Thaw's personal counsel.
Mrs. Thaw and her daughter in,Iaw
left the prison together, the elder wo-
man holding the younger woman by the
arm They went 70 Mrs. Evelyn Nesbit
Thaw's cab and we're driven away IN
il. Il was reported at the Tombs that
one reason why Thaw wanted his wife
and mother to meet there was to set
aside stories that his mother considered
his wife at the bottom Of al the trouble
and that wide breach had grown be.
tween them.
0Icott Back Again.
II is generally admitted that former
Judge Olcott Is in full charge Of Thaw's
case. and II ia also said that ia his work
on ii he would not be hampered hy out
side help A story was also told Yes
teiday to the effect that ThaWs dis.
missal OF the firm as counsel came after
he had been told that tho insanity plea
was the only way to save his life. III
was then. according to report that Thaw
became very wrathy and decided upon
letting the Olcott firm 60.