The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1906-07-10
Whites Slayer Insane, Is the
Opinion Of Theatrical
Manager.
MRS. THAW'S MOTHER
rs EAGERLY SOUGHT
District Attorneys Office Seeks
Light on Evelyn Nesbit's
European Junket.

New York, July 10.-James L. Led
,rer of Philadelphia, who was manager
# "The Wild Rose' company when
Mrs. Harry x. Thaw was member
# the chorus, was examined by Assist
'nd District Attorney GaGryan today.
van that he had long believed Thaw to
oe insane. This opinion, he said, was
based upon his observations Of Thaw
during the time 'sThe Wild Roseo COM
oany was playing in this city. In this
connection he mentioned several Incl.
dents in which Thaw was the central
agure.
Thought Him Dope Ftend.
cit was common talk among all the
people that knew Thaw," said Lederer,.
that Thaw was 'dope fend.' lie re-
call one night when Thaw was about to
send two Of his chorus girl acquaint-
ances home in hanson cab He was
there with friend Of his named Nc.
Kay. ~ 1872
Tried to Jump Over Cab.
"suddenly Thaw insisted on trying
to jump over the roof Of the hanson.
"Of course, he could not actually,
Jump over the roof Of the cab, but he
tried, and succeeded in crawling up
one side Of the cab over the roof and
down the other. Mckay remonstrated
Kay, apparently disguised, turned aside
and said: You can u do anything with
a crazy mani he's drug crazy.
Seek Mrs. Holman.
The presence of Mrs. William HoI-
man, mother Of Mrs. Thaw, is said to-
be much desired at the district attor-
ney's office. According to the report
the attorneys who are at work on the
prosecutions case would like to cues
gard to one Of the trips to Europe made
BY Thaw and Evelyn Nesbit.
According to one story, while Thaw,
and the girl were in London. an APP
peal was made to the American en-
bassy to break up the relations between
Thaw and Evelyn Nesbit and have the
girl sent home. Sc
Appeal Came from White.
This appeal, it is said, was made by
Stanford White. who acted on the re-
quest Of Mrs. Holman. 1t was about
this time. the story goes, that Mrs.
Holman was much prejudiced against
Thaw. 49,.
It was said today that if Mrs. Hol-
man should come within the territory
covered by subpoena from the district
moned to his office.
Her Testimony Only Hearsay.
Edna Mcclure, the showgirl who APP
.peared before Assistant District Attor-
ney Garvan last Sunday for examina.
ton concerning the Thaw-White TRACE
dy, said today that she did not tell Mr..
Garvan Of any threats made by Thaw
against White. She never heard such
threats. ~
She said she told Mr.. Garvan Of many
reports concerning Thaw, Mrs. Thaw
and White, which had reached her ears,
but that Of their truth or falsity she
had no knowledge.
Terms Affidavit Forgery.
The theory of the prosecution Is that
Thaw had had no motive for the shoot
ing except hatred and jealousy dating
from the time Evelyn Nesbit consulted
lawyers and made sworn statement re-
fleeing upon the man she soon after
ward married.
Attic the defense has adopted pol.
lev of silence, Terence J. McManus, one
Of Thaw's. lawyers said today that i
any document purportipg to be an affi-
davit made by Mrs. Thaw was intro
duced it would be proved forgery.
To Swear to Threats.
Mrs. Beatrice Schwartz is, the woman
who. Assistant District Attorney Gar
van expects, will swear that Harry
Thaw long had it in his heart to kill
Stanford White. Mr.. Caravan thinks
that Mrs. Schwartz will appear as vol
untary witness. A close friend OF Mrs.
Schwartz has already repeated to Mr..
| Garvan this narrative by her:
ISoon after Thaw's marriage to Eve.
lvn Nesbit, he and his wife visited
Mrs, Schwartz at her epartment In TINS
city. She had known both Evelyn YES
hit and Harry Thaw for q long time,
and had met them together abroad,
With the Thaws on their visit to Mrs.
schwartz was William Sturgis, Thaw 9
/ most intimate friend. and, it Is said,
the only man Of whom he was not sus-
nicious where Mrs. Thaw was con-
cerned.
.'I'm Going to Kill"
While the Thaws and Sturgis and
Mrs Schwartz were talking somebody
mentioned Stanford Whites name,
Harry Thaw Immediately few in fu.
rious passion and, while he called White
the worst names, whipped revoivei
from his hip pocket and brandlshlng IL
Ishouted:
"This is for White. / am going "a
| kill the with 1t.
Mrs. Schwartz says, too, according t.
her friend who quoted her to Mr.. Gar
Z van. that after Thaw uttered this threat
she happened to meet Mr.. White In Tn:
street. Mrs. Schwartz knew White ane
told him that Thaw and Evelyn Nesbii
had been married in Pittsburg. Sh!
\ asked Mr.. White whether he had heard
It. it,
uPoor, hayward kid It is the best
thing that could have happened t.
her,b White answered.