The Birmingham age-herald., 1906-01-09
MIR. ROGERS POSES
 AS SPHINX NO. 2
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(Contlnued from First Page) ~--------~-------------- sidiary company and then told him to see w. H. Tilford, one of the directors of the Standard Oil company, and having of fees at 26 Broadway.
 MT. Tilford," witness said "told me that they had just absorbed Scofeld Schurmer and Teagle and reorganized it as the Republic oil company. When I got to Cleveland, I was not to be known as a Standard oil company em- ploye."
 What reasons were given by the Re- public oil company to it's agents in refer enee to representing it as a competitor of the Standard oil company" asked MT Hadley.
 '"The managers of the different states were under the impression that the Re public oil company was independent of the Standard Oil company. They got instructions from Kansas City office to represent to their trade that they were in- dependent of the Standard company The deception was to secure trade that the Standard could not get"
 After he left Cleveland witness re- turned to Albany in the employ of the Standard Oil company. He remained at Albany about a month and was trans ferred to the Atlantic Refining company after six months.
 After six months witness went to AL bany where he remained less than week, when he resigned. Afterward he was re- employed by the Standard at Albany for fifteen months and was then asked to re- sign. Witness said:
 Asked for Another Position.
 q asked Mir vandusen, then Albany manager, for another position. He asked me if I had letters to the Republic oil company and I said I had. He said might stay with the Standard Oil com pany five, ten or fifteen years, but l would never get better position until I gave up those letters I finally gave them up and sent them to Walter Jen- nings After eight weeks l was re- employed. When resigned, the Standard oil company gave me an advance on my salary and offered me g. ticket abroad, but only one way. It had no return coupon upon it. l was a native of Eng land. That is where they wanted me to go when I quit"
 H. H. Rogers was next called and MT. Hadley asked him if he had refreshed his memory as to questions he was asked on Saturday, and which he asked to be excused from answering
 q think I have,' said the witness. ''What are they"
 "One of them is regarding the Stand ard oil company of Indiana, MT. Cowan, is vice president. think MT. Staple was treasurer don't think there were any committee"
 FIashlght Causes Interruption.
 At this point there was a loud report of a newspaper photographers fiashlight, and the room was filled with smoke. Mir. Rogers left the room and the proceedings were interrupted. The commissioner re- quested the newspaper men to keep their cameras out of the room and announced a recess to ? D. Ill.
 During the recess District Attorney Je- rome and MT. Hadley were closeted sev- eral minutes in the rooms where the hear ing is being held. At the conclusion Of the conference no statement would be given out.
 After recess MT. Hardcastle was on the stand again. He said he had second in- terview at 26 Broadway before going to Cleveland with Wade Hampton, who was in charge of the Standard Oil companys auditing department, and also with R. r. Tinsley, head of the domestic commit tee of the Standard Oil company Witness said MT. Tinsley turned him over to man who showed him that the method of bookkeeping was the same in the Repub- lie Oil company as in the Standard Oll company. Wade Hampton, witness sald, also sought to impress upon him the ne- cessity of secrecy.
 H. w. Wyatt, Tinsleys brother, and one other, the witness said, were transferred from the Standard Oil company to the Republic Oil company. They were all dis charged from the employ of the Standard and then re-employed by the Republic Oil company. Later they were reinstated by the Standard oil company after they made valuation.
 Witness Produces Letter.
 At the request of MT. Hadley the witness produced a. letter from R. F. Tinsley which he said he received at Cleveland. It was dated December 2S, 1901. This was in the same year as that in which he had the the talks with Messrs. Jennings Tinsley and Hampton. The letter, he said bore the inscription 26 Broadway. Mir. Badley secured from witness the state ment that it did not bear the name of the Standard Oil company MT. Hadley hand ed the letter back to the witness. Counsel for the Standard Oil company demanded to see 1t, but MT. Hadley said he would allow counsel to see it if the witness did not object. The witness objected, and the commissioner ruled that the letter was not in evidence and counsel could not have it.
 MT. Hadley offered to read the letter and did so.
 MT. Hardcastle said the Tinsley letter was in reply to a copy of witness resig- nation from the Republic oil company, which had been sent to C. L. Nichols.
 MT Hadley asked if George D. Wilson, who appears as an incorporator of the Republic oil company, is at 26 Broadway, and witness said he was.
 Mir Hardcastle was then excused and Mrs. Ida N. Butts was ross-examined by the Standard oil company's counsel. Frank Hagernan began the questioning. He brought out that for twelve Or fifteen years MT. Rice spent large, part of the time in New York
 Mrs. Butts Is Cross-Examined.
 MT. Hagerman asked if MT. Rice was not in active opposition to the Waters Pierce company, and Mrs. Butts said:
 ''TIis active efforts were to secure rail road rates that would enable him to com pete with the Standard Oil company, and it was construed as against the Standard oil company
 Counsel for the Standard oil company asked to exclude the answer as unrespon- sive. but the commissioner allowed it to stand.
 When asked where she got all her infor- nation about the Ohio oil matters, she said she got it from the records from Attorney General Monnett, and from her stepfather, George w. Rise. She was also present when interrogatories to John D. Rockefeller were prepared by Assistant Attorney General Kincaid of Ohio.
 Mir. Hagerman asked how she knew the Waters-Pierce company was in the original Standard Oil trust. Mrs. Butts said 1t was included in the trust agree, ment of which she saw a certified copy in the Bacon investigation in 1S7 Mir. Hagerman moved that her testimony on