The Washington times., 1906-06-19
New Evidence Before
Interstate Commerce
Commission.
PAY WAS UNCERTAIN
Accounts Between Pennsyl-
Vania Railroad and Ber-
Wind-White Co. Lax.

Officials of the Berwind- White Coal
Mining Company told the Interstate
commerce Commission today, at a hear
lEg IN this city, more about the close
relation between that company and the
Pennsylvania Railroad Company. Late
arrivals Of Witnesses postponed the be-
ginning Of the hearing until nearly IL
o'clock.
+ 3 Chase. secretary Of the Berwind-
White Coal Company, was the first wit
ness called He had been on the stand
al previous sessions. Bills OF Iading Of
coal arriving at Harsimus pier We're
presented. IN compliance with previous
requests
Witness regretted he was unable to
present memoranda showing the amount
OF coal remaining in lighters which car
ried coal from the pier 10 steamers
Codllug, as these were not kept perma-
Acully- From this Mr. Glasgow wanted
tc nSurc out II the company got pay
Tor more coal than was received al the
Then you have no other means OF
teilng now much coal actually passes
over your pler2' asked the counsel
p.y. '''S
How on earth can you tell whether
yoL Se' sufficient pay for your cOal2''
We can tell by this method of ac-
c"pinS the bill Of lading weight for
business purposes. We drifted into this
business would last long"
Can't Tell Profit and Loss.
George Z. Dickinson. head bookkeeper
II the New York Offices Of the Berwind-
White Coal Company. was next called.
Mr.. Glasgow asked him if there is any
D way he can tell by actual weight how
imuch coal is handled by the coal com
'pany- He said there was not
Don't yea make I'D an annual state
ment Of receipts and expenses of run
ming the pier?"
NO, SIR
How can you tell how much your
profit or loss Is in year?"
7 can't tell
The witness said maybe the PhnadeI-
phla oiEce knew something about the
profit or loss All the books ne kept
We're a G2sn book and an invoice book
W no IS IN charge Of the PHILADELPHIA
Officer asked Mr.. Glasgow
y don't know
Throughout his testimony the witness.
smiled at Mr.. Glasgow. but professed
complete inability TO give him anv di-
rect information about the business.
L hen Mr.. Glasgow continued his cam
paiEn 10 ascertain if the steamer weight.
of coal sold by the Berwfnd- " hite Cor,
pnay was the only way of arriving at
the WEIGHT of the coal handled. When
ne asked conGerning the wages Of the
men who worked on the barges. Attor-
ney William 6. HeeDner objected that
this was going into private business
1TOm which the newspapers might crea te
an unjust public opinion.
Attorneys in Heated Debate.
This involved Attorney Heebner and
Commissioner Cockrell in a heated de-
bate. ending with the latter's declara-
ton that the attorneys arguments were
FAR fetched" The witness was direct
ed TO answer the question.
How much a Il
was asked.
They are not paid by the day" was
tne response, and the witness grinned.
another question brought out the state
ment that they received SIS a month
= j Berwind, president Of the Ber-
wind White Company, was put on the
growth Of his company. His testimony
was quite frank in contrast with that
OF the preceding witness.
Berwind Testifes.
The Pennsylvania railroad. in a gen.
eral way. assisted in the DEVELOPMENT
OF the company. At present his com
pany is the largest shipper of bitumi-
nous coal over the Pennsylvania lines.
Mr.. Berwind said.
Mr.. Glasgow's first endeavor was TO
II,,.r. &c ~ NIr. BSerWlnd didn't think that the
keystone Coal and Coke COMPANY. a
rival concern. was too closely CONNECT
ed with the Pennsylvania railroad.
have sald,n asserted Mr.. Berwind,
Lnat IL Is unfortunate that President
GaSsatts son is the president of the
Keystone Company. He might walk as
straight as this table. and vet tbev
he had taken up the parent reIatioris
with the Pennsylvania officials, but
said that all he knew about the h1Isi
ness relations of the Keystone Company
and the Pennsylvania railroad was
based on rumor
During the big strike. Mr.. Barwind de-
clared. he could not get increased facil-
files. although other companies did.
He was asked about the testimony
that during the strike the Eerwind Com
pany was picked out as one TO which