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Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
Notice to Bidders.

Notice is hereby given that sealed
bids will be received by the under
signed, the City Clerk of the City Of
Lewistown, Montana, up to 8 o'clock
p. M, of the LIST day of August, 1906.
for the construction of six miles Of 10
inch and 12-inch wooden pipe line. for
a gravity water system, and the fur
nishing of all materials therefor, for
the full equipment thereof, according
tc the plans and specifications thereof
to be seen at the Office Of the City
Engineer, of said City of Lewistown.
Montana. Specifications will be mailed
upon request.
Bids must be accompanied by certi.
fed check for ten per cent of the
amount bid.
Dated Lewistown, Montana, July s,
1906. All bids and correspondence to
be addressed to
WILLIAM F. SMITH,
7-6-4-F City Clerk, Lewistown, Mont.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
Notice to the Public.

The Fergus County Horse Breeders
will stand their Percheron
stallion Siberien upon the following
terms to-wit: fifteen (15) dollars to
insure mare with foal, two or more
mares from same owner twelve dol
lars and fifty cents each, to insure.
Service fee payable December first OF
year Of service. Will stand during sea-
son at the ranch of William Medigar.
Pasture one dollar and fifty cents per
month.
WILLIAM MEDIGAR
Manager.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
SHOOTS DOWN
HER BROTHER
Esther Mitchell Shoots Down Man
Recently Acquitted Of Murder
Of Holy Roller Leader.
TRAGEDY AT SEATTLE DEPOT
Shot Fired Just as Victim Was About
to Take the Portland
Train.

Seattle. July l6.-ESther Mitchell
shot and instantly killed her brother,
George Mitchell, at about 80 o'clock
this afternoon in the waiting room
of the union depot.
The shot was fired just as Mitchell
rose to take the evening train for
Oregon. The brother, who was ac-
quilted Tuesday of Staying Frank Ed
mund Creffield, the leader of the
Holy Rollers, dropped in his tracks
Esther Mitchell was at once arrest
ed.
The Mitchells--George, Perry and
Fred--were sitting with Esther on a
bench in the big waiting room, talk
ing together and APPARENTLY on the
best of terms. When the Oregon
train was announced George Mitchell
rose and started forward. His sister
revolver close to his head. pulled the
trigger before anyone realized what
was happening. Esther Mitchell is
the sister to avenge whose treatment
George shot Creffied. She has refus-
ed to have anything TO do with her
brother since the shooting. Today
was the first time they had been seen
together on good terms. Last night,
Charles Mitchell. the father Of the
family, and his daughter, Esther, eff
fected reconciliation. For some
days the girl had refused to see her
father. Hearing that he was about to
return to his home in Illinois. she con
sented to an interview at which all of
the rest of the family except George
Mitchell were present.
Esther Mitchell and Mrs. Croffield.
widow of the deceased Holy Roller,
today announced their intention Of
making Seattle their home. The two
women took small apartments here
sold their witness certificates to raise
funds and apparently had mare up
their minds to remain in Seattle.
The three brothers We're en- route
I" Oregon, where they expected to go
back to work. Directly after the
shooting Perry Mitchell and Fred
Mitchell were arrested as witnesses
They were found together on bench
in the depot sobbing on each others
shoulders.
For Revenge.
Revenge, terrible swift, cowardly
| and premeditated sums up the killing
Esther Mitchell is the girl for whom
her brother George shed the blood Of
Franz Edmund Creffield, when he sho,
down the leader of the so-callel Holy
Rollers in Seattle, May Z. 1t was be
cause of her alleged ruin by the ia
natical leader that Mitchell took 6
| life and risked his own, and the cold
blooded murder of George Mitchell Is
his reward.
! Mitchell was about to board the
train at the Union depot for Port
land, where he was to take up perm
anent residence and begin life anew
when Esther left her two other broth
ers, ostensibly for the purpose of bid
ding George goodbye, but instead
as George turned half around to gree
her, she produced a revolver, bidder
under a cloak hung over her arm, ant
fired once, the bullet entering the lief
ear Mitchell fell to the ground dead
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

KINGSBURY PIANO IN GOOD CON-
dition and hansome case, Williams
typewriter, shot gun and rifle. Also
SO Singer machine at $780, Call on
Mrs. Robert Morrison, corner Second
avenue and Corcoran ST., LewistOwn.
7-17-1t*
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
Tourist sIeepers to chlcaso-An limo
walton in Sleeping Car Service.

walton in Sleeping Car Service.
The Great Northern Railway COM
pany has met the demand for through
sleeping car service to and from Chi
cago.
The Oriental Limited, the new Great
Northern train, is now equipped with
new tourist sleeping car. operating
between Seattle and Chicago and in
termediate points. The rates on these
cars are about one.half of the Stand
ard Sleeping Car rates and no change
Of cars is necessary between points
on the main line in North Dakota and
Montana and Chicago in either direc-
ton.
Ask your local agent for further in
formation, or apply to F. l. Whitney,
Passenger Traffic Manager, St. Paul
MINI. Il
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS

One cent q word each insertion pay
able in advance, for advertisements
in this column, II not paid in advance
10 cents a line each insertion.
Minimum charge for the insertion
rs cents.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

The Argus Job department has the
finest lines Of program and invitation
folders ever brought to Lewistown.
The most beautiful creations for pri.
vate or public dances or parties at
reasonable rates. Order early.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
Cool

Mary" Mrs. Housekeep called from
the foot of the stairs, 'How about
breakfast"
"Oh,' replied the new servant, who
had oversight herself, I'VE naden't
trouble to bring me amy. amt very
hungry this morning!"-Philadelphia
Ledger.
At the Sign Of the Enduring Wolf.
The lone coyote that sits on Big
Butte and bowls and bowls and howls
is but q coyote.-Missoula Muscular.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

THE OLD UBET RANCH IS FOR
sale on easy terms; eighty acres
plowed ready for winter wheat. Call
on or address Mrs. A. B. Barrows, Lew
istown. 7-6-8t~
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FOR GALE.

ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY
fine wool bucks, three to six years
old, for sale or will exchange for 9TH
er fine wool bucks. A. Jackman. Lew
istOwn. 7.3-17ts
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
Sage Creek Coal.

will sell coal at my mine, the Sage
Creek Coal mine, for $2.75 per ton;
strictly cash. 6-5-17t
SAM SCHULTZE. Prop.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

ONE DOUBLE SEATED FAMILY
carriage, rubber tired, in good order,
cheap for cash. Inquire at 317 Mon
tana st., Mrs. D. ]. knight. 7-1O-tf
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

TWO FIRST-CLASS RAILROAD
tickets, Helena to Kansas City, good
until July 23rd. Apply to Box 80.
Kendall. 7-13-2ts
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

Two papers every week-the news
up to date and always reliable. e2.60
per year.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

Hand made harness for $40 at Stat.
ford's. u
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

WANTED-FEMAlE HELP.
COOK WANTED-ENQUIR OF
Mrs. H. A. Moulton, COS Main ST.,
Lewistown. 7-1O-atf
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
STRAYE0.

One white mare branded D on right
thigh, weight about 100 lbs; enc
white mare branded on left shout
der and thigh. weig = hit about 1918.
Both shod all around, names reached.
Strayed from Lewistown Livery Barn,
July 4th. Ten dollars reward for re-
turn to stable in Lewistown. j. S.
BREWER. 7-l3-2t*
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LOST.

LOST.
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LADIES GOLD BRACELET LOST IN
Lewistown July 4th; $500 reward
for return to Argus Office. 7-13-2ts
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17


buggies and spring wagons at the
Montana Hardware company? 4-17-atl
A message was received here this
morning stating that Frank Swanson
had been run over and badly hurt in
Maiden canyon. DR.. Wilson was sent
for and left at once to attend the
injured man. Mr.. Swanson has been
the victim of three serious accidents
in one of which his leg was broker
and in another he was blown up il
mine.
Lester Nichols yesterday closed ;
deal with Archie Mccormick, form
erly of Kendall, for the sale of thu
Oaks cafe, and Mr.. Mccormick will
take charge of the establishment Fri
day. Mr.. Nichols has not definitel
decided on his next move, but has al
offer to return to railroading, and i
likely to accept it. Mr.. McCOrmic
is a well known business man, an
while his latest venture is somethin
new to him, his wife is thorough
familiar with the hotel and restauran
business and the Oaks will be in tho
oughly competent hands.
William A. Gordon. Jr., law office
corner Fourth avenue and Janeau
street. 7-17-5t.
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17
FOR RENT.

FOR RENT.
THREE ROOM HOUSE, SO. A. s.
Holman. 7.l3-Zt'
Fergus County argus. [volume] (Lewistown, Mont.) 1886-1946, 1906-07-17

and hundreds OF people made pedeS-
trian trips I'D the creek and over the
hills.
W. S. Smith has put in a line of the
New Home sewing machines. and are
selling them very much cheaper than
any other machine has been sold here.
Head Office for Fergus county. 5-29-atf
William Edwards, ST., well known
resident of Garneill, was thrown from
horse near Moore a few days ago,
and his right shoulder dislocated. He
is being cared for at Moore, and is
expected to be around again in few
days.
Bran and shorts sl.0O cwt. Cheap
err than oats. Lehman S. 7-l7-2t
Thos. Downing, representing the
Chicago Hide Co., will hereafter be
found at the Dark Horse barn ON 5th
Ave. He is prepared at all times tG
nay the highest cash price for hides
pelts. and wool. 4-l31
Harry T. Kendall will not visit Lew
istown this year. Early in September
Mr.. and Mrs Kendall, Mr.. and Mrs
Smith. of Martinsdale. and about 81
: residents of southern California, viii
meet at Seattle andd sail for Japan
he party will make an extended tou
of the orient. and will be absent sew
eral months.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
WATER FOR NORWAY HORSES.

You never see a broken winded
horse in Norway" said horse doctor.
That is because the horses are allowed
to drink while they eat. the same as
mankind.
Our horses. let them be as thirsty
as get out. must still-sat their dry fod
der, their dry hay and oats and corn.
with nothing to wash them down. But
in Norway every horse has a bucket
of water beside his manger. and as he
eats. he drinks also.
1T is interesting to see how the Nor
wegian horses relish their water with
their meals Now they sip little from
the bucket. now they eat a mouthful.
then another sip. then another mouth
full just like artiOnal human beings.
You never saw a broken winded
horse in Norway. and the natives sa :.
il is because they serve water to the
animals with their feed."-New Orleans
Times-Democrat.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
Old
I Month
LIST OF SCHOLARSHIPS.


The Phoenix Academy and Business
College, choice of any course, business
academic or classic.
Arizona School of Music, vocal, pi-
ano, violin, eloeution and physical Gull
ture.
Scranton International Correspond
ence School, electrical, mechanical
mining. engineering, architectural
draushtsman, advertisement writing
and illustrating, assayins, chemistry
and others.
lamson Business College, bookkeep-
ing, shorthand. typswriting, CONNER
oiaI law, practical business or any 9th.
er course.
A trip to the coast-free round trip
transportation to the summer play
grounds of the southwest.
A trip to Grand Canyon-free round
trip transportation to the tourists
mecca of the United States.
The best suit Of clothes in the housf
for the boy who ranks highest-siven
by the New York Store.
The best winter coat in the house for
the girl who ranks hishest-siven by
the New York Store.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Randolph McElhaney has been allud-
ed to as the star performer i'm The Re-
publican's subscription contest. and
once more he has demonstrated the
fact that he is a star performer when
it comes to hustling subscriptions. He
came into contest headquarters yes
terday, brimful of business. and a
broad, confident smile spreading over
his face. And no wonder he smiled.
He had another bunch of subscriptions
and nearly enough new ones TO secure
1000 extra votes for the second time
this week. As it was, he advanced his
score sufficiently to put him in second
place. This is certainly rustling some
and if Randolph keeps up his fast work
he may yet take the lead in the list.
though he will have to fight hard TO
beat Harry Kerr. who has held first
place. with only one exception. ever
since the contest started. Harry is a
splendid little worker. and has a host
OF friends, and it is quite probable he
will give Randolph a mighty hard
struggre.
THREE MORE DAYS EXTRA
OFFER.
Inc extraordinary OlitT VI luVV duui-
tional votes for each bunch of six new
subscribers closes Saturday evening of
this week. But three more DAYS. count
ing today, remain in which to get In
on this big offer. Several OF the con-
testants have already secured the re-
quired six, and some only lack one or
two of having the second bunch of six
new ones. which will score them an
other extra thousand votes. Now is the
time to do your best. and the live ones
who are wide awake to every oppor-
tunity. are putting in every moment,
and. so far, have accomplished SPLEEN
did results. It's up to you. boys and
girls. This is a remarka bly, generous
offer and you should all get busy
while il lasts.
ALSO A TURKEY.
Though it is a small item. COM
pared with the other valuable gifts.
contestants should not forget that the
one having the most new subscribers
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

BACK FROM PlNAl-George Z
Truman. returned home yesterday
from Florence and Kelvin and as usual
reports those up-river towns as in
9 most fourishing condition.
ORANGES AND THE WEATHER
Tuesday night was about as cold as J,
ever gels in this section and in certain
spots where conditions were favorable
ice was formed. Any colder weather
than that needs watching especially
by the orange growers. though the
thermometer is a few degrees warmer
generally in the orange belt than 1t is
right in Phoenix. An orange grower
is authority for the statement made
yesterday that the trees and fruit 'were
unframed by the cold of the night be-
fore. but it is probable that there was
"a little smudging going on last night
as a matter of prevention.
AFTER OUCKS-On Friday morn
ing. DR.. II. J. JeSsop. II. p. DeMund
and Mr.. Hartraft as guests of DR..
Stone, will leave here in DR.. Stones
automobile for the Casa Grande canal
reservoir. southwest OF Florence. for a
day or two OF duck shooting. At the
RepresitO club house. near the Teset -
voir. they expect TO be Joined by
McSsrs. Sieboth and Sharpe Of Flor
ence. This il the opening of the duck
season and it is reported that there is
good crop OF them waiting to be
harvested and that they are nice and
fat. The Phoenix men expect to re-
turn home on Sunday or Monday. This
publication is made as a timely warn
ing TO the ducks for the gentlemen
named have good guns and know how
10 use them.
DIVORCE GRANTEO-The follow
ing from the Rocky Mountain News
Of Denver. describes the ending of 4
social" incident in which a Phoenix
youth is said to have figured. the wO-
man in question. Mrs. Dunlap. having
spent the winter Of 19O4-05 in this
city The marital troubles OF Alice NJ.
Dunlap and James b. Dunlap. presi-
dent Of the ]. b. Dunlap Wall Paper
and Paint Company. which brought the
principals into public attention
through the acrimonious nature of TIL
charges they made against each othe-
ended yesterday when Mrs. Dunlap
Was granted a divorce by a jury in the
county court. Mrs. Dunlap accused
her husband Of cruelty and infidelity
The husband. in turn. made the same
charges against his wife. He opened
her mail and claim sto have found let
tiers from men that she had met i'm
Arizona and claims also to have in
tercepted a photograph in which an
other man had his arms around Mrs.
Dunlap. Dunlap was tried Tuesday in
the federal court on the charge Of OBJ
structing the mails. but was acquitted
on the ground that in so doing he was
within his rights. He did not appear
10 contest his wife's divorce case.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
RECORDERS OFFICE.

Martha Ann Clayson to Joseph T.
Trotter q acres in NE 1-2 sec. 6 l \
+.
Mary L. Zuck to VIM. II. Amos part
of lot block II. Mesa City.
VIM. n. Amos and wife to Jennie C.
Kelly part of lot block IL Mesa City.
Garfield A. Goodwin and wife to
Minnie L. Keefer lot i'm NE IA of sec
% n E
w. s. DurstOn and wife to f. O.
Brown. SW Ia NV IA sec &c 9 N 4 f.
Roy G. Clayson and wife to Joseph
T. Trotter 10 acres in Sc Ia sec 81 >
y 4E.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
WILL PAY PRISONERS WAGES

The government of Victoria. Austria
liza, has appropriated $4,000 for the
making of roads by prisoners through
the bush in unsettled parts of the
state. Each prisoner who does his
work well will be paid a regular daily
wage, the amount to accumulate until
his release, when, as the premier says,
he will have respectable sum with
which to make a new start in life. The
labor party is expected to oppose the
substitution Of bond for free labor.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Attend the Second Annual Terri
toriaI Fair to be held at Phoenix
November IL, 10, IA, is, rs and II,
1906. Reduced rates on all railroads
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

At the door on summer evenings
Sat the beautiful Miss Mandy,
Wishing that her beau would come
And bring her Donofrio's Cactus Candy
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

The chronic croak has to draw straws
with the chronic brag as to which is
the more npopular.-Atchison Globe
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
SANTA re TIME TAeLE.

PHOENIX
CITY TIME
Departure Arrival
The Diamond Jo." for
Hot Springs Junction
castle Hot Springs)
wickenburg, SalOme, Con-
gress, Prescott, Jerome,
Ash Fork, Denver, Kansas
City. Chicago. Los Angeles
Coronado and san Fran
cisco. l2:i5 s.m. , 20 I'm
THE Daylight Express"
for Wickenburg, Con-
gress. Prescott, Ash Fork
and East ............. $40 am. S:l5 pm
Mesa and Tempe ......... Gao am. Sis AIN
II IS am. lbs pm
4;5Op.m. 6 Is pm
Florence, Kelvin. winkel-
msn.......... ............. II Is an. ! Is p m
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Forecast for today, fair and warmer.
b:30 $50
a. m. D. m
Barometer. inches ...... ....SO.lS 29.9'
Temperature. degrees ...- 49,. "a %
Dew point. degrees 49,. ...... Il -
Humidity. per cent $500. ......4o -
Wind-direction ...... ...... F. NV
Wind. velocity, miles $3.50. 1
Weather ..... $1,000. go. clear Ile;lr
Mean daily humidity, $3.50. ....-...-SS
Mean daily temperature ...........-.i6
Highest temperature 5000. .........59
Lowest temperature ........ .........5i
Accumulated excess i'm temperature
since January /. 157 degrees.
Accumulated deficiency i'm rainfall
since January l, LII inches.
L. n. JESUNOFSKY,
Section Director.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Boiled cider for your mincemeats at
Melczer Bros. company, ia w. Adams
street
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
to his credit Saturday evening will be

to his credit Saturday evening will be
awarded a big Thanksgiving turkey.
GET TOGETHER AND HELP.
Friends of contestants. who are in
terested in their score, SHOULD club to-
gether the next three days and gather
in a few now subscribers for their
favOrite. II is an easy thing for most
any one TO go out and get one new sue
scriber 10 the Daily Arizona Repub-
can. and if six friends would resure
one each. that would be the required
number to score the contestant one
thousand extra votes in addition TO
the regular number of votes given for
each subscription.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Your nose wasn't made for glasses.
Well, perhaps not, but we believe l;
will be TO your advantage to see what
we can do in the way of making glasses
for your nose. You'll be surprised at
the many different styles of eye-glasi
guards we carry in stock. and the ease
and comfort afforded by the one that's
Just right for your nose.
Wen be glad to show you.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

CORN FLAKES IN TOWN-The
Pure-Food Depot received a supply
this week. Tie demand is greater than
the supply. but we will do our best to
have the factory make us weekly ship
ments. Fresh foods arriving nearly
every day. p 5. First avenue.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

Donnel makes photos at eastern
prices. No extra charge for groups.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

WATCH OUR BARGAIN COUNTERS
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
Still Waiting

For you to bring your Kodak Work to
US. One trial will assure you that our
work is the best.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

OF LOCAL
III INTEREST
THE WEATHER.
Local Daily Weather Report for The
Arizona Republican.

Forecast for today, fair and warmer.
b.20 f. 3U
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22
DON'T FORGET

Our Big Line of TlNWARE, Enam-
eled Ware, Hardware and House Fur
nshings.
Arizona republican., 1906-11-22

BACK FROM PiNAL-George Z
Truman. returned home yesterday
from Florence and Kelvin and as usual
reports those up-river towns as in
q, r,,osr fIo-,risbin-r condition
The Logan Republican. [volume] (Logan, Utah) 1902-1924, 1906-12-22
MINERS IN THE KIoNDiKE.
Quiet, Provident and Anxious to Get
Away as Soon as Possible.

Lack of water is the great drawback
TO mining in the Yukon. says Leslie's
Weekly. There is little rain during
the summer and the miner must de-
pend upon the melting SHOWS to swell
the streams for his summer sluicing.
Villages have sprung up near the
creeks and living is shade higher
than in Dawson owing to the extra
freight. Sending souvenir post cards
from these points becomes an expen.
sive remembrance, az the plain uncol.
ored ones sell for 81 so dozen. The
picturesque swagger miner of Cripple
Creek, Creole and Tonopah is not
found here. The cost of getting "in"
Is heavy, moaey is not always easily
made. and the winters are bitter cold
and depressing on account of the long
darkness. SO the miner saves his
earnings until he reaches more con.
geneal cline. To be sure there are
men on the creeks who drink whiskey
and the hnsdest kind of whiskey-
and gambling goes on; yet, on the
whole. the klondike miner is a quiet,
provdent Individual, who devoutly
hopes that the gold fields are not
TO be his permanent home.
A man who works for company
or individual mine owner receives
from four dollars to six dollars day
and his board. Many of them do their
own cooking and live In cabins near
the creeks. Flap-jacks (pan cakes),
bacon and coffee are their chief diet
during the winter, and in midsummer
II requires n deXterous hand to turn
the flap-jacks before the mosquitoes
can settle en- the unbaked side. The
oid-timer who has seen the ice come
and go is known as sour dough,
and these men are the aristocrats OF
the camp. The newcomer or the man
who spends his winters outside. Is al
ways known as "cheechako.'
II people in the states knew how let
ters from home are appreciated by the
cabin jewellers of the Yukon they
would SEND some message every day
have seen miners sit in front OF theil
cabins and read and reread old tat
tered letters. At some particular pas
sage their faces would light up will
smile and the entire letter woult
be gone over again.
The Logan Republican. [volume] (Logan, Utah) 1902-1924, 1906-12-22
PEOPLE Without Ideas Of Art

The Kibalans, natives of Formosa
are probably the only race in the
world to whom drawings or pictures
convey no idea whatsoever.