The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1906-07-11
THAW DENIES
BEING INSANE
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lively to answer any questions put TO
him. despite the advice of William NJ.
K. Olcott, who was present in his in
terestS.
Mr.. Olcott was not in his Office yes
terday and ii was said he was not ex-
pected during the day. He went to
Philadelphia on Saturday, and it was
reported to obtain information about
Miss Harriet ThaW, cousin of the
prisoner, who has been confined in the
Friends asylum for the insane. in
Frankfort, for the last two years. An
effort Will be made, it is believed to
snow that Thaw suffers from a hered-
itary faint. and officials of the Friends
asylum may be called as witnesses in
his behalf. Mr.. Olcott's associates de-
MED knowledge of his whereabouts. but
said he expected to visit several places
in search of witnesses.
Mother Could Tell Much.
The presence of Mrs. William Hol-
man, mother of Mrs. Harry X Thaw,
is said to be much desired at the dis
trict attorneys office. According to the
report the attorneys who are at work
on thu prosecutions case would like to
question Mrs. Holman, particularly
with regard to one of the trips to E,u-
rope made by Thaw and Evelyn Mes
bit. According to one story, while
ThaW and the girl were in London an
appeal was made TO the American en-
bassy to break up the rela tons be-
tween ThaW and Evelyn Nesbit and
have the girl sent home. This appeal,
ii is said, was made by Stanford White,
who acted on the request of Mrs. Hol-
man. 1t was at this time. the story
goes, that Mrs. Holman was much
prejudiced against Thaw
1t was said today that If Mrs. Hol-
man should come within the territory
covered by a subpoena from the district
attorney she should be at once sum
moned to his office.
Evidence of Insanity.
James L. Lederer of Philadelphia, who
was manager of the wild Rose" com
pany when Mrs. Thaw was a member
of the chorus, was examined by Assist
ant District Attorney GarSan today.
Lederer is said to have told Mr.. Car
van that he had long believed Ihaw Il
be insane. This opinion. he said, was
based upon his observations of ThaW
during the time the wild Rose" com
pany was playing i'm this city. IN this
connection he mentioned several Incl
dents in which Thaw was the central
figure.
1T was common talk among all the
people who knew Thaw," said Lederer,
that Thaw was a dope fiend.' I recall
one night when Thaw was about 10
send two of his chorus girl acquaint-
ances home in a hanson cab. He was
there with a. friend of his named
Mackay.
suddenly Thaw insisted in trying
to Jump over the roof of the hanson.
OF course ne could not actually jump
over the roof of the cab. but he tried
and succeeded in crawling up one side
of the cab, over the roof and down the
other side. Mackay demonstrated with
him, but it was no use Then Mackay
apparently disguised, turned aside and
said You can't do anything with 4
crazy man; he's drug crazy
Girl Heard No Threats.
Edna Mcclure. the show girl. who
appeared before Assistant Attorney
Caravan last Saturday for examination
concerning the Thaw- White tragedy,
said today that she did not tell Mr..
Caravan of any threats made by Thaw
against White. She never heard such
threats. She said she told Mr.. Garvan
of many reports concerning TEaw, Mrs.
Thaw and White. which had reached
her ears, but that of their truth or
falsity she had no knowledge
Judge Olcott has just returned from
a trip to Philadelphia in connection
with the case, and as he was leaving
the Tombs ne was asked regarding his
visit TO Pennsylvania.
II secured what / went after" said
he. Il can say that my trip to Phila-
delphla was wholly sucCe ssful. / told
Harry Thaw what l had learned and
he was very happy over it. So was
Mrs. Thaw'
klienist Visits ThaW.
Mrs. Thaw remained with her hus-
band about an hour and a half After
she had left the prison Thaw was Wis
tied by an alienist, recently retained
by the defense. This was DR.. Charles
L. Dana. Mr.. Dana brought letter
from DR.. Allan McLane Hamilton.
chief of the corps of alienists in the
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