The Caucasian. (Clinton, N.C.) 188?-1913, 1906-05-17
LIVELY DISCUSSION
Senator Tinman Brings Out
His Evidence
SHOWS PRESIDENT HAS CHANGED
New Hampshire Ex-senator Written
Account of His Conferences With
President as Intermediary Between
Executive and he Senator.

man. who made Il statement I'm The 4
Senate Saturday covering the details
Of his and Senator Bailey's negotia-
| tons, through ex-senator Chandler.
with President Roosevelt regarding
| the rate bill made ,,l,5lic a portion o.
written statement TO linn br. Chand-
] Ter Of the last-named's : various con-
| ferences with the President Oh this
subject. The portion given out by
MIR. Illlman i largely repetition of
the fost part OF his statement in the
Senate. 1t covers. however. that por-
tion where Mr. Tillman had quoted
Mr.. Chandler a. saying that the Pres
| ldent had stated tfat he had come to
4 complete disagreement with the sem
| atorlai lawyers who were trying 10 de-
feat or injurc the bill, naming Messrs.
Knox. Spooner ard Foraker. regard
! ing which statement Senator Lodge
| subsequently said he was authorized
| to say from the White House that II
was an unqualified falschood. On this
subject MI. Chandler, referring to the
President said in his written state
ment: "IIe said that he had been
much troubled by the advocacy Of an
| unlimited court review by some of the
lawyers Of the Senate, naming Sena-
tors Knox. SEOon2r and Foraker as
| trying to lnlure or defeat the bill by
ingeniuS constitutional arguments. but
| that he had come to a complete dis
agreement with them. He made this
| point emphatic by repetition The
statement given out by Mr. Tillman
| follows:
"Senator Tillman said that on Sat
urday, May ), he insisted on having
from ex-senator Chandler written
statement Of the various conferences
by the latter III connection with the
plan of tie President to control the
railroad rate legislation by alliance
with Democrats Of the Senate. and
Mr.. Chandler gave him such state
ment made prior to Saturday, May
H. and signed by Mr. Chadler. Mr..
| Tlllman said that he wo-ld give out
a portion Of that statement relating to
the interview Of Mr.. Chandler with
| the President on March 81, which
had become a subject matter Of dis
pute, but would retain the remainder
for use in case Of any Of his state
ments - the Senate Saturday should
| be denied
The following is the portion Of Mr.
| Chandler's 5 statement given out by
Mr.. Tiilman:
| lon Saturday afternoon. March 81,
1906, q friend of mine came into my
office and. told ne Of the White House
conference Of that day i'll which an
understanding as to a limited court
review had been reached with Scna-
tor Long and others. and he told me
that the President wished to get into
| communication with the Democrats
and would shcrtly ask me to come
and see him. While he WAS talking
a messenger boy arrived with letter
to me from Mr.. Loeb as follows:
g" The White House, Washington,
March 81, 1906
| My Dear Senator Chandler
The President requests me to say that
he will be glad 10 have you come tc
the White House at $50 O'Clock to-
night. VIII you please let the beare,
know whether you can come?
Very truly yours,
'WILLIAM LOEB. JR.,
81 Secretary to the President.
"'Hon- W. E. Chandler, 1927 ]
street.
Il told TIE messenger l would be
there.
''At the tine and place appointed
| the President said to ME that he
wished, through me, to get into COM
munication with Mr.. Tillman. Mr..
Bailey and other Democratic Senators
He stated his purpose slowly and
carefully, and III exact substance his
statement was this: That he had
| reached the conclusion that the best
| plan for railroad rate legislation was
| to expressly grant a court review, but
to distinctly limit 1t to two points;
first an inquiry whether the inter-
| State commerce commission had eX-
cceded its authority, and second, an
inquiry whether the constitutional
| rights of the carrier had been vIolat-
| ed.
''He said that he had been much
troubled by the advocacy of an un-
limited court review by some CT the
| lawyers Of the Senate-namlng Sena-
tors Knox, Spooner and Foraker as
trying to in1tIre or defeat the bill by
ingenious constitutional arguments,
but that lie had come to complete
disagreement with them. He made
this point emphatic by repetition; /;
said that he would go thus far and
no further and that his decision
would be unalterable. He said that
he wished to ascertain. whether there
could be united action N the Senate
among the friends of the bill so that
it could be surely passed without IN
furious amendments, and he named
various Republican Senators who he
thought were the friends Of the bill,
but said that it would take nearly all
the Democrats to carry the limitation
and defeat all obnoxious provisions.