The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1906-07-27

Chicago; ex-President White of Cornell;
Chicago; Dean Vincent of Chicago;
Schaffier, president of the National Edu-
cational association; Tight of New Mex
| leo; Purinton of West Virginia; Aber-
crombie of Alabama; Mclean of Iowa;
Gilman of Carnegie institute; Cambell OF
Oregon: White of Illinois Agriculture
college: Henry of Wisconsin Agricultural
college; Director Hilgard of California
Agricultural college: President Gibbs OF
New Hampshire Agricultural college: Di-
rector Bailey of Cornell Agricultural col
lege; President Patterson of State col
lege (agriculturaD of Kentucky; Price OF
Ohio Agricultural college; Scott of Okla
homa Agricultural college; Latta OF In
diana Agricultural college; Hardy of Mis-
sissippi Agricultural college; Director
Hills of Vermont Agricultural college and
Morgan of Tennessee Agricultural col
lege.
favor separation, five favor either sepa-
local circumstances, and eleven favor
combination. Whenever agricultural col
lege presidents advocate separation, the
presidents of the universities advocate
combination.
"2S 1t is shown by the State School of
Mines that consolidation is cheaper-that
IL costs $4,000 per year to conduct that
school with the university, while sepa-
rately, on an Independent site, and with
the present efficiency. it would cost $50,
M per year, besides $500 in buildings.
'29. The State Normal school COM
bined with the university costs the state
annually $4,000, while with separate
maintenance at its present efficiency the
cost would be $4,000, besides expensive
buildings.
$50. In fifteen years the state will save
by combination more than million dol
lars, and the work will be better done
"31. In collecting libraries. museums
and apparatus, 1t costs twice as much to
provide two institutions (their books, APP
paratus, etc, being mostly identicaD as
it does to equip one; and since these are
largely technical and not used by the gen
eral public, there is no advantage of con-
venience in keeping them separate
''32. The loss of the buildings at Logan,
which some say the state would suffer by
the reversion of these buildings and
grounds to Logan City "a total of s276
$3.50 according to the last college BIZ
ennial report) would be saved out of two
legislative appropriations to the Agricul-
tura1 college If the institutions were
united.
In Other States.
"SSS. There are thirty-nine states and
territories that have these two institu-
lions OF these, nineteen have them sep
arate and twenty have them combined.
There are nine other states where the
name given to the highest educational in
stitution instead of university or agri-
cultural college, state college, etc. Com
bination does not cut off any of the funds
received from the United States govern
ment.
'35. The largest separate agricultural
college in the country is that of Iowa,
and 1t is more of a university than our
two institutions would be combined.
''35. 1t makes very little difference
rT,otI he OIL fxyar-
sity or agricultural college. President
Van Hise of Wisconsin says, Where they
are maintained separately, the state will
have to maintain two universities In
Indiana they are separated, one being
called the University of Indiana, and the
other Purdue university.
For about five hundred students above
three years of high school work, nine
tenthS of whom are in the University OF
Utah, and One-tenth in the Agricultural
college, this state cannot maintain more
than one higher educational institution.
The Agricultural college courses contain
ing students above three years of high
school work on Feb TO- 1906, when the
school is the largest were: Agriculture
9, domestic science 6, commerce Is, civil
and mechanical engineering Is, and gen
eral science ga total of fifty students
above three years in high school. There
were in addition a few specials in music
and other subjects, and included in the
fifty were several teachers craving sala-
ries from the college. The commission has
snown that the thirteen students above
three years of high school in the civil
and mechanical engineering courses of the
college could be distributed through cor
responding four years in the University,
and would add but little mere than. one
student TO the year in each of the two
courses. The students In domestic science,
six; and in agriculture g. would be pro-
vided for by the expenditure in these
special lines of the entire amount re-
frOrT he
land fund, in place of the smaller por-
ton of these funds now devoted to this
use by the Agricultural college.
The students in the other lines-com-
merce fifteen and general science nine
would be distributed through the four
years of corresponding classes already
organized IN the University OF Utah with
cut she over crow1ing of any class.
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. does not mean
subordination of the AGRICULTURAL col
lege, but coordination with the other
colleges and schools of the university.
Thirty seven-Wtere one agricultural
fields crops, etc, is now published, at
least two could be put out with the money
at the disposal of the department after
combination.
Comparison of Students.
"Thirty-eight-The University Of Utah
has about four hundred students above
the grade of the Salt Lake and Ogden
High ScnOOfS OH teD. y, 1910. wien the
commission visited This was at the time
when the school is the largest On the
following day the commission found TWEEN
ty-one students registered at the Agri-
cultural college above the rank of the
high schools named.
"Thirty-nine-The Agricultural college
is not so well represented by Utah stu
dents The following distribution is
taken from tables supplied by the in
stitutions: From Utah outside, of Salt
Lake county. in the university 405 stu
dents; from Utah. outside of Cache coun-
ty in the Agricultural college, 269 stu
dents; outside states represented in the
university, Is; in the Agricultural college,
10; Idaho has in the university 16; IL the
ty rs the third county in number III the
Agricultural college outside of Cache
county. Cache county is the eighteenth
county in number in the university out
side of SAT- Lake county.
''Forty-President Kerr showed before
the commission that the Agricultural col
lege received from the state in 1885,
increase in the necessary appropriation
for the next two years. IL the college
goes or with the same work will be pro-
portionately greater than the Increase OF
the last two years, or more than double
Sl40,500.
Forty arguments used in the
constitutional convention for maintaining
these institutions separately, while given
in good faith, have not proved true during
the past eleven years. 1t was argued that
the Agricultural college would be self
supporting and should be allowed to re-
main where it is; while the arguments
and predictions of President Kerr and
other in the convention, to the effect that
the separate maintenance of these two
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