The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1906-02-13
I'm execution of tho laws, were not sin
core. because he said. they had long been
aware OF the evasion OF those laws.
Knox Denies Statement.

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rore5 because he said. they had long been
aware OF the evasion of those lnws.
Knox Denies Statement.
Mr.. KNOX was not IN the Senate cham
Der when reference was made to nm.
but no came in before the South Carolina
senator had proceeded far. He imni1-
diatcly interrupted MIR. Iillinan, 10 say 10
him that he had been entirely mistaken
In aging lie had been attorney for the
pennsylvania Railroad. II never sus-
tanned that relationship either rermently
or temporarily, directly or indirectly, AT
any time during my career he SAIL.
He added that he would not consider
such connections ut all improper.
MIR. Tillman expressed satisfaction over
the denial, saying to Mr.. Knox Ina ne
would respect him more for the balance
of his life
Continuing. the South Carolina senator
said that the three principal lines of road
south of the Potomac were in n merger
which was controlled by the Pennsylvania
and the New York Central.
He then spoke of the conditions in west
Virginia. and said that notwithstanding
Governor Dawson's predecessor had caiied
attention to the violation of the law IN
that State, the attorney-general had done
nothing about it. The people were. how
ever. becoming aroused. Even the poor
csottcd Pennsylvania Legislature. owned
body and soul by the Pennsylvania ana
the Reading. had shown signs of life by
adopting Il resolution as to the control
or the coal output by the railroads. as if
everybody did not know that the nnthra-
cite output is and has been for yeIrs con-
trblled both as to quantity n price.
He declared the Pennsylvania Railroad
to he "the head devil in the whole policy
of monopoly and referring to the Bait
more and ohio's policy in West Virginia
ne said tina road had practically told the
public that I. might be damned.
He declared that q very strenuous ef-
fort had been brought to bear on the
President to grant to the railroads the
privilege of appear to the court be-
fore the orders of the Interstate Com
merce Commission go into effect. He had
even heard that threats were being made
that the President must yield. III he
stands firm and does not yield. then |
will have more confidence" he added.
Appeals Too Expensive.
Mr.. Foraker asked Mr.. Tillman II he
did not believe there should be provision
for review by the courts and Mr.. TIL
man replied that he believed In 1t X
properly provided for. Otherwise lie
said. 'the poor devil of a complainant
will be bully-ragged and dragged from
one court to another until he is forced
into bankruptcy
Mr.. TilIman confessed that he was
rot entirely satisfied with the Hepburn
bill and drew from Mr.. Foraker the
statement that he would not vote for 1t.
The South Carolina senator then went
on to say that the Senate was under a
cloud. and should take steps to clear Its
,-oI ~ ~ ssTba neVEpaDarI press as
sociatjons. however, controlled, and l
have my suspicious on that point. he
said, have educated the people TO be-
lieye that Theodore Roosevelt lis their
only friend here. and that the Senate is
the supple tool of the corporations un-
less 1T takes their ipse dixit."
He then told how the Hepburn Dill
had been gotten through, saying that the
President had said TO the representative
whose name the bill bears, Here. Pete.
take it and get it through" and that the
latter. waddling about through the words
of the bill. had sworn that there We're
things in 1t which are not aud that
there are not things in 1t which are
there"
ii Big Loophole in Measure.
Why shouldn't lie be suspicious, he
asked. He declared that the bill had a
!oophole in 1T that a freight train might
be driven through, and added:
You'll never stop the devilment I'll
you put some millionaire IN prison ana
put the stripes on him"
He said that he had asked the Inter
state Commission TO make the
inquiry called for by his resolution. be-
cause, for one reason. the Senate has
not the time. and because know
better how not to do 1t than anybody on
Gods green earth"
He then proceeded TO give REASONS why
h%e-thought the President no DC
depended upon to serve the interests of
the people. In that connection he referred
to former Attorney-General Griggs, say
ing that Immediately after retiring from
office he had AIKEN the merger case of
the Northern Securities Company against
the encouragement.
Speaking of aIr. Morton, Mr.. Tillman
said that ne had resigned from the navy
with the concession of rebate on him,
made by his own mouth and the proof
hanging over him"
He is promo,ed.' Mr. Tillman con-
tinued. and made head of the great in
sirauce organization in New York which
has been made the stamping ground for
as dirty a lot of thieves as ever walked
Gods green earth And they sent a man
with this. clean record and put him In
charge OF these scores of hundreds of
millions which are the savings, 30 to
speak, of widows and orphans who have
policies In that company"
Yet, here We CO. he went on. the
White House is immaculate. l do not
doubt Theodore Roosevelt'g integrity and
patriotism. As I stated the other day.
he Is nonstrousiy persuaded by some
people who get around linn and honey
fuggle him with ~fattery. Whatever their
methods may be he stands by his friends.
lie gave Morton a certificate of govern
ment character
How Mccall Got Into Trouble.
Mr.. Tillman then referred to a dinner
recently at the White House to the
executive committee Of the Republican
National Committee. and said
THE President has been elected nearly
4 year and y half. and never has 1t been
found necessary or desirable, to bring
these friends of his. these true and tried
lientenants and counselcrs IN his last
race for the presidency, to dine with.