The semi-weekly messenger. [volume] (Wilmington, N.C.) 1897-1908, 1906-05-29

Oh iNdilFodu cars "nen IL faIieQ to
Get its -Allotment-Efforts to Force
MIR. Lloyd to Admit Business Asso-
citation With President Cassatt Were
Not Succe>sful-Summary Of h
Evidence Before the Commission.
Philadelphia, May 24.-AdditiCnal
evidence of the discrimination by the
Pennsylvania railroad in the distIibu-
ton of cars in the soft coal fields was
presented to the interstate commerce
commission today. John Lloyd, a
banker and coal operator of IllIrna.
who is one of the members of the
banking firm of Cassatt and COMPANY.
testified that the Columbia Coal Conf
pany was forced to sell the Alegan-
dria mine because of the shortage of
cars, and George E. Scott, of the Puri-
tan and Crescent Coal companies, de-
clared that he paid for the use of
railroad cars when he failed to secure
his allotment, and that during a period
Of % days the railroad had furnished
him with only one car. He also as
serted that Michael Trump, general
superintendent Of transportation, had
told him the company intended TO PIC
tect the Berwind-White Company at
all hazards.
During the time that Mr.. Lloyd was
on the stand counsel for the commits
sion made persistent efforts to force
an admission that he had been asSO-
clated in a business way with Presi-
dent Cassatt. Mr.. Lloyd, however,
said that his only relations with Mir.
Cassatt were through Cassatt & Com
pany, with whom President Cassatt
carried a personal bank account. The
railroad company had for many years
been a depositor with the First Ma
tiOnal Bank Of Altoona. of which Mr..
Lloyd is president.
Mr.. Lloyd also gave testimony con-
corning the organization of various
mining companies in which he is in
terested, stating that he considered il
good business policy to have railroad
men among the stockholders of the
coal companies.
In answer to questions Mr.. Lloyd
said he helped to organize the Column
bia Coal Mining Company, Of which
rotary. 1t is a selling agency repre-
seuting four mining companies.
Since 1896 the company had paid
100 per cent, plus SIS, 900 which, from
time to time, vas applied from the un-
divided profits to the expenses. Only
10 per cent of the capital stock Of
$4,000 was paid in.
Mr.. Glasgow brought u the Tact
that the Altoona Coal and Coke Com
pany, with its own locomotive. hau'ed
its cars from the mine to the maiu
track, and for this received a. allow
ance from the railroad of Is cents a
| gross ton on the rate Of $1.30 to tide
water. Mr.. Lloyd said the allowance
! was made because of the service the
coal company rendered the, railrosd.
Asked if the Galitzen Coal COMPANY,
which performed the same service, re-
oeived any allowance. MI. Lloyd said
he had heard it did not
Mr.. Glasgow made persistent efforts
to learn through whom the Altoona
Coal and Coke Company received the
| allowance, but Mr.. Lloyd7s memory
failed him.
Mr.. Lloyd said that E. T. Postle-
thwait, then assistant to President
! Frank Thomson. had 500 shares in the
Altoona Coal and Coke Company,
| which he. the witness had purchased
for him at four or five dollars a share.
| Later Mr.. Lloyd bought Mr.. Postle-
| thwait's stock at $3.50 a share. Other
officials Of the railroad, the witness
+! said. had stock in the company.
It was previously testified that the
Alexandria Coal Company, One Of the
! concerns in the Columbia Coal Com
pany, had been sold to the Kelstcue
| Coal and Coke Company. Asked the
reason for the sale Mr.. Lloyd said that
because of the restriction of cars at
that operation it ceased to be a pay
tng proposition. Mr.. Lloyd said it
was the general impression that Or
ders had been issued by the railroad
company restricting the supply Of cars
at certain mines. He stated that
when the Keystone Company began
operations at Galitzen there was a re-
duction in the supply of car at the
| operations in which he was interest
ed. In answer to further questioning
the witness said his company received
| 95 cents a ton for coal for company
use and was allowed twenty cents a
ton for hauling and handling on the
| tipple. An allowance vas thus made
| by the railroad On botn commercial
and company coal.
Mr.. Lloyd expressed the belief that
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