New-York tribune., 1906-06-09
REYNOLDS BACKS NELL
Dir. Wads5corth Replies to Crit
ciSRls of His altitude.

Reynolds was asked to what previous experience
he had to qualify him TO make the report
u have official position now" he replied. and
said he had had eight years experience in uni
versty settlement work in New York. had been two
years secretary to the Mayor of New York. and in
the last few years had been travelling His pro-
fession that Of lawyer Twelve years ago he
had incidentally visited the sJockyards in Chicago
and had also visited the stockyards in Berlin. In
the latter place he said the work done under
city regulations. He was impressed by the absence
/ of wood and the constant cleaning going on.
He said he had received notice of the first
hearing and had not heard Mr. Wilson's statement.
AS 10 Mr. Neill's testimony. there nothing in
IT he wished TO modify In particular he wished TO
substantiate Mr.. NeiIPs statement regarding the
shoveEng of pieces of meat from the floor of the
Nelson Morris Company. He the operation.
MR. wADswoRTH's STATEMENT
At this point Chairman wadsworth made a some
what heated statement setting forth his reasons
for the questions he put Mr Nell yesterday and
said he should feel free to question the present wit
ness He said:
! may be called friend of the packers. am
friend of the packers and a friend 10 all other
American industries. | do believe IN foning
Of RS e5e Of erf the as s II
Representatives TO promote American agriculture.
not to inJure II or TO cast asperston on It,
This report has cost the agricultural interests OF
If foreign demand decreases in the next two
weeks as i has in the last two weeks the value Of
TO 30 90 per @ cent cent hundred pounds .--.--
But for the publication OF this report the foreign
There was absolutely no complaint
committee he right m to nd out from Re5 s. gene
ngIsh9 G9n mean IN any, any onensiye way-to ma
froIn personal observation as they claim they are,
or whether they are made on assumption.
/ Continuing. he said the questions he had asked
Mr.. NeiIl yesterday regarding that unfortunate
hog had shown eonclusively that he did know
whether the hog was afterward cleaned or not.
At this point Representative Lamb, of Virginia,
wanted TO know if the chairman summing up
the testimony.
NO, sir" replied Mr.. wadsworth. II am talk
ing Of what I criticised for Yesterday be-
cause purpose to ask Mr.. Reynolds the Same
questions In my own Judgment I perfectly
justified in asking those questions
Mr.. REYNOLDS EXAMINED.
Then. addressing himself TO Mr.. Reynolds he
put the question: DO you know whether that hog
sent TO be canned or salted uncIeaned?'
Il do not" was the reply.
Don't you think that statement in your letter
! of transmittal which says that the matters set
forth in the report were founded on fact not
| quite true?"
4 do not, sir; I think the statement is per-
! fectly true"
But did you see that hog go 20 the can? Explain
/ II any way you please. do not want en-
/ baTTass you or examine you as a pettifogger"
/ The reply TO this a reiteraticn of the cir
cumstances, that the hog fell and was made filthy
/ picked up and placed with the others.
MI. Haskins' Of Vermont. said that this was all
that was stated in the report
Mr.. Wadsworth maintained that the fair infar
ence was that the hog had never been cleaned
Il am not concerned with differences" remarked
Nh. Reynolds
You heard what Mr.. NeIn said yesterday that
IN ms opinion the hog went to the can unceaned?'
asked M. Wadsworth.
The witness believed Mr.. Nen had right to his
( own opinion.
Mr. Nell here asked be allowed to make 4
statement IN view Of the fact that his testimony
of Yesterday had been called into question by the
/ chairman
Il want to state" he began -tha; what stated
yesterday was my opinion that by any fai- con-
structloH Of the English language we did not sav
/ as a fact that al time in the weeks and weeks
after we left effort was made 10 clean that hog
The time 10 have cleaned it was immedLN ely he
maintained: otherwise its identity would have been
lost with the others.
IT is not fair" he said to take 4 statenne,, ?
made yesterday as my belief and try TO ada il 10
the report, and say giving 4 matte. of he
lief for 4 matte. of fect''
Il Will refer the gentleman 10 his own statement
! commented Mr. Wadsworts
| And l perfectly willing 10 stand IN II - r
| torted Mr. NeilI
Mr. Haskns said he hearc no questions yesterday y
| that improper
CONDITION OF DRESSED MEATS
MI Reynolds was Their takeG over his report bv
members OF the committee. and reiterated II in
ueidA- Inc cflUclsmSr lie said, had reference In
particular TO the process OF preserving and canning
meat He men who he believed had tubercl,
losis He saw them spit on the hoor. and he saw
meat the floor.
AS TO the dressed meats. Ar Reynolds said that
generally speaking. they left Chicago in good con
dition They were well wasj.ed and cieaaly
Representative Brooks Of Colorado brought ont
that. according to this census. the fresh beef was
substantially 81 per cent OF the beef product or the
packers. practically all The mutton and 80 per cent
MIR Neil
give s2 per cent OF the clean bill Of health
He had not investigated other cities where beef was
dressed, and understood the census report applied
| them
Mr.. Reynolds wanted noted that the report
found fault with the buildings their un~
sanitary conditions. These buildings We're old 81
wood ana easily absorbent.
/ Representative Haugen. OF Iowa, endeaVored nv,
series OF questions 20 bring out how IL could H..
that the fresh could be all right ana not
| anected by the tlnaanitary huifdings nS.ie ,iul %
canned meats were contaminated Ar Reynol1s
pIeferTe-. net 20 snlarge on his report
/ ngtoWn dts-rct IN Chicago. declared he ,vanfsi a
10 resent as a siander the statement uy Air NaJt
regarding the moral condition OF the smploves
The statement In the report was that condlfions
the plants tended 10 produce moral degraa, fto,
I Representative Adams. of Wisconsin, called atten
10 the words. tended produce" and coafeada "a
that they did not say that these employees ws,e
Mr.. Wharton contended thar the conditions -
prevail generally. He he had Ii,,1 -, Ia
the Chicago Stock Yards since he was fhya
nlaT with all their operations He wants. a
assert that there much cieanijness ~ u 70
ting up meats as there IN any hotel kifcPss11
port were argumentative He did nor rees "a le-
stock yards smell as offensive 49, N@a'u 'he
a large part Of his statement was based on thu
! in