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printed above. except that he made no
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printed above. except that he made no
ellusion to the secret record
Colonel Anderson replied that he de-
inanded proof. The charges were the
same, he said. as had been previously
read. II deny them absolutely Colonel
Anderson submitted that Cloves ought
not to be Judged by a record which he
(Clowes) was not allowed to use In his
defense II demand proof. and submit
lie cannot prove them without reference
to the secret record"
~ submit that the charges are tho
same as the first. 1t is scandalous and
lmpertinert matter, and should BIO strlck-
en- from the record
Mr., Puliam to Colonel Anderson How
about the third and fourth chargcs2"
(graft and bride chnrges).
Colonel Anderson-''1f ho (Lawless) en-
deavors to prove these graft charges,
we will meet Them
II ask that these new i've charges be
stricken out that attact this mans
(Clowcss) character"
Colonel Lawlcss insisted that he had
made simple motion to have the Wit
ness DO put ASIDE" It was proper. and
ho had done 1t In tho regular manner and
at the proper time. III he accepted q
bribe then his evidence will not have
weight"
Mr. oud. Are you prepared to prove
that7
Colonel Luwless: II ain. 1t is in your
own breasts, and you know"
Mr.. Ould: Can you. bring Witnesses to
provo it?'
Colonel Lawlcss: II can, and will.
do not know II no (polnting to Clowcs)
will testify to 1t again. but can bring
another witness who testified before"
Witness Acceptable.
Senator Rison said that in his opinion
tho charges made In the motion made
by Colonel Lawless was no grounds for
tho witness being told to stand aside,
witness credibility would be questioned.
He thought the motion Of Colonel Law
less should stand upon tho record.
Mr.. Puiliam moved that ull the charges
be stricken out OF the record. He said
that Colonel Lawless had charged "bribe,"
and that It was the province OF the COM
mittee to inquire into them.
Colonel Anderson insisted that Colonel
Lawless be made to put on witnesses to
prove his charges at once.
Colonel Lawless said he would summon
the three members OF the Senate COM
mittee who heard the witness (Clowes)
admit the chargs he (Lawless) had made.
THE chair would state, as his indi-
vidual opinion, that the grounds upon
which Colonel Lnwless bases his motion
is not we'll founded In law and. to say
the least, can only affect the credlbility
OF the witness. That the matter may
come up later. and II there are any
grounds to show later that the witness is
not petent there will be allowed
counsel to show cause and call witness,
Mr.. Pulliam moved that the grounds OF
objection be over-ruled for the time being.
Before the question was put, Mr.. Ould
asked that the committee go into exocu-
journed to private room.
The committee, after an executive ses-
sion OF twenty minutes, entered the court
room. f
Mr.. Guild moved that the grounds OF
objection to this witness be stricken from
the record.
MI. Pulliam offered this substitutes:
That the ground OF objection MS to the
competency Of p. II. Cloves as o witness
before this committee be over-ruled.
Messrs. Pullian, Rfson. Dunn and Ro-l
berts voted for the Pulliam resolution.
Messrs. sadler and Ould voted against
1t.
THIS MEANS 5TIIATsTTIE CHARGES
A Wv LINT lI5-