The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1905-02-25
TO TELL
EVEN HER NAME
Mrs. Chadwick a Witness in Bank
-uptcy Proceedings.
MADE THE REFEREE ANGRY
TILT BETWEEN
COUNSEL.

CLEVELAND, Feb. 24.-Mrs. chad
wick. when placed on the stand in
in bankruptcy proceedings today
before Referee Remington, refused TO
be sworn. After consultation with her
attorneys she finally consented to take
the OATH She was then asked to state
her name. She refused to reply to this
or any OF the questions that followed
Mrs Chadwick sought refuge in her
privilege as an accused person, and she
refused to answer most of the questions
on the ground that what she said might
tend to aid the prosecution OF her GRIM
inal cases. Referee Remington found
in her favor, although he insisted
against her counsel's wishes in making
her give a quasi explanation OF her re-
fusal
Could Not Be Separated.
MY financial affairs are so closely
allied with the case in the federal court
that anything affecting the one must
necessarily affect the other" said Mrs.
Chadwick, and the referee declared
that that explanation of her position
was as admirably expressed as it could
be.
What they want is to get possession
of your information stoutly declared
Attorney Dawley, on behalf OF Mrs.
Chadwick They want to have a look
tain our defense. Now. if the govern
ment will tip off its hand we might ar
range the DEAL
Dawley frankly told the court that
Mrs Chadwick would be only follow
ing his advice in refusing to be sworn.
He said ne did not intend to be dis
courteous to the referee, but he de-
manded the protection which. he said,
the constitution gave his client.
Attorney Gresham. for Trustee LOe-
ser, insisted on an examination, how
ever. and Referee Remington finally
decided that Mrs. Chadwick would
have to be sworn and take the wit
ness stand at last.
We are reliably informed. and we
have reason to believe that there is a
large amount of property. including big
sums of money, that ought to be in the
hands of the trustee for the benefit of
the creditors. but which are not de-
clared Gresham.
Yes. but you must not turn the
bankruptcy court into an instrument
for prosecution said Dawley. He de-
elared that the trustee had seized all
Mrs Chadwick's private papers, and
turned over information to the United
states attorney which had resulted in
at least two, probably three, additional
indictments.
Referees Reasons.
TT is the duty of every good citi-
GEN. said Referee Remington, Ito give
all the authorities all the information
in their possession" Despite Dawley's
objections and his irate declaration
that Mrs Chadwick was being unjust
~ and improperly imposed on, Mrs.
ChSdwick was forced to take the stand
and be sworn. This she did very grace
fully, smiling pleasantly and cheerfully
as the referee administered the oath
Il want to do all / can to aid the
trustee q
nounced the witness before any ques-
lions had been asked.
So insistent had been Dawlay's OBJ
jections and so hot had been the fight
over the Introduction of the bankrupt's
testimony that an hour was consumed
in getting the examination started And
then it struck snag, the first of many,
at the outset. Mrs Chadwick refused
to give her name. Another long wrangle
resulted over this seemingly unimport-
ant question. 1t was in vain that
Gresham declared he had no designs
of trapping the witness into an incrim-
mating reply. Mrs. Chadwick simply
refused to say that she was Mrs. Cas-
sic L. Chadwick and smilingIy per
sisted in that course.
Referee Remington vainly appealed
to her, explaining TO her and almost
threatening her. He went at length
into just what her privilege was, and
just what amounted to contempt of
court. Mrs. Chadwick was an interest
ed listener to all he had to say but his
conversation moved her not a jOt.
Finally Remington grew little exas-
perated at her cheerful Indifference
rs this by your advice2" he sternly
inquired of Dawley.
Il refuse to answer" was Dawley's
reply.
Counsel can take care of himself"
he added significantly. II am not I'M
Il. obi fr-.tF -.
not even a court, the nature of my pro-
fessional advice to my client
The passage between DaWley and
Remington left the air slightly tense,
and for a while an open rupture was
imminent The referee did not lose
his temper, however, and the episode
was allowed to pass.
Threat of Trouble.
Dawley continued to grow more and
more acrimonious in his remarks to
the court however and along at the
close of a subsequent clash he frankly
stated that he wished the court would
commit Mrs. Chadwick to jail for con-
tempt and get the thing off his mind
Remington took decided objections to
this attitude, and remarked that If
Dawley persisted in it there would be
trouble
The referees examination was a Sc
ries of just such wrangles and dis
putes. Mrs. Chadwick answered a few
questions, but her answers were re-
markedly free from information. Final
ly the court and counsel on all sides
agreed that the examinati might
just as well stop abruptly, because
there was no hope of securing any in
formation from the bankrupt Accord
ingly, March 13 was set for the re-
sumption of the hearing, with the
understanding that Mrs. Chadwick
would testify freely on that date il the
criminal cases against her had been
disposed of by that time
Mrs. Chadwick today paid SO from
her own funds for carriage to con-
vey her from the county Jail to the
bankruptcy court, distance OF one
block She did this after unsuccess-
fully attempting to compel the federal
authorities to furnish a carriage on
the return trip to the Jail she walked
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