The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1905-03-26

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I with Coelho. Do not consider myself
| and committee had charge. Commit
, tee had charge of arrangements for
| steamer and permits from Board of
Health. After that understand our re-
sponsibility ended. Did not consider
we had the responsibility of keeping
clean persons from mingling with the
! lepers. When House committee went
| to president of Board of Health for
| permits, they We're granted by him on
| condition that the permits We're only
| TO admit the holders to the corral.
> (Suggested by Pinkham) Yes, there
/ We're two kinds of permits. One for
! the members of the Legislature, also
| members of the press, permitted the
| holders to go all over the place. The
) other kind. for relatives of the lepers,
were only to the corral. When 1 came
| to Kalaupapa L was surprised to see
! so many people from Honolulu among
the lepers and I asked the superintend-
ent what about the other people on
the steamer. He answered that he had
/ committees ready to take care of them
| whenever they came ashore. / said it
was not fair to let all these people
| come in and keep those others on the
: steamer, and he said that was all right,
they could come ashore any time they
, pleased. At the superintendent cot
| tage / saw Achi and others al the ia
| BILE. After a while L went down with
Naopala 1t the landing, where we
waved for boat and it came and we
! went aboard and told the people they
could come ashore. The boats were
lowered and people kept going ashore
until an accident happened. When I
came back from the steamer lot of
people came ashore and an officer took
the permits and told the people to go
, on into the Settlement. I was surpris-
ed that they were not directed to the
corral. 1 asked the officer where was
/ the corral and he pointed to it. He
said the people were not to be kept
there. I did not see any preparations,
but understood there was a meeting
the night before. when committees
were appointed to receive the visitors.
1t was not understood by the lepers,
so far as I learned, that there was to
be a mingling and shaking hands of ,
themselves and others.
To Achi-I did not make an order
for the people to leave the corral and
go out I made inquiries not with the
view of assuming authority, but to see
whether or not the rules were being
observed. Did not find out why the
people We're allowed at large among
the people. AS to people meeting out
side McVeigh's yard, l did not inter-
fere-considered it was his business
not mine.
Witness here made a volunteer state
ment. Pinkham sent Charlie Clark to
my room before daylight, to tell me
he wanted TO meet me on the bridge.
L met him and he said he wanted me
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take me ashore with him, because he
said he did not want to drown me.
President Pinkham here asked to
have read a report he had in typewrit-
ing of the remarks of Fernandez in the
House on moving to return the letter
to the House from the president of the
Board of Health, in which the witness
denied the truthfulness of the letter.
To Pinkham = Witness answered
quest tons about where the president
stood and what was said as to landing
on board the Kinau.
Q.-The second boat did not land?
Al thought you went in the sec
ond boat.
Ono, that is not so, but that does
not matter. Did not you hear the dis
cussion with Capt. Clarke about the
condition of the water?
A-After you went ashore there was
a meeting of the committee, and
Pinkham-You are going ahead of the
questions. We are still on the boat.
Breads from correspondence Has
Capt. Clarke misstated any of the
things mentioned in this letter?
witness-My opinion as regards {
those people of the steamer is that they t
We're too lazy to do their own work.
Not only that, but they We're all drunk
Capt. Naopala's mate was drunk. The
mate of the other boat was drunk. S
The freight clerk was drunk. Another
happened just before I went
to Waikolu. Capt. Clarke was told the t
committee wanted the boat TO go to c
waikolu Instead of that the boat &
went to Kalawao and anchored there. /
I asked Capt Clarke what he meant
by anchoring the steamer there when
he was asked to go to waikolu. He G
answered that he wanted to see how /
the landing was there. I told him that I
was no use, wasting time that way. G
Capt. Clarke then took up anchor and
went to waikolu. 1 ordered a boat II
to go ashore and said I would go in C
the boat if I died in the water. The
boat L went ashore in did not get bit T
vet. The trouble was the steamer peo-
ole did not want the bother of rowing
he people ashore. More than that, =
he boat stayed ashore half an hour v
md the word was given out at Kalau-
papa that the water was just as rough IL
IT Waikolu but the committee found p
hat nobody was sent to Waikolu at c
ali to ask about the water there.
Dickey--Now please conffne yourself
o Mr. Pinkham's questions. s
Fernandez disclaimed having had any b
sense of responsibility for controlling
he holders of permits. He got ut
lie excited and pounded the desk in n
,ront Of him. Further questioned he t,
;aid he met Supt. McVeigh at his v
house Did not discuss the liberty of L
he crowd with him. Did not discuss o
he matter with you (Pnkham) be- /
,ause I did not consider the committee e