The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1905-09-10
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.!1!lE!!!!IG zAi|l, ltAsk
or Charlotte county and thcrS ourt OF
arms, which i have heard could bc obtains.
cd from a Charlotte connection Of the
family.
BY publishing this you Will greatly
Al CONSTANT READER
Is 1rarmvlllc, vn .3. a. n
An Inquiry.
1t Is said that John Minor (born TOD
4 married 5arah Carr. daughter Of Thomas
\ Carr and Mary Dnbhey his wife. y 10
I also said that the vito OF Tfomas carr li,
! uho c,higrnnt) was named Lucy Garland:
1 WAS not Eartl, Carr the daughter Of
| Thonns Carr and Lucy Garland, and was
/ rot tho Thomas Carr who married Mary
Dnbney tho brother of Sarah Carr,ttwife
OF John Minor above nnmedf Tho writer
\ is ignorant ON this subject and desires
10 Know which OF these two accounts Is (
~ - Au'''' = X = - n INQUIRER.
1T wnsss John Carr (son Of Major Thomas
| Carr, y OF 5t'Bear Castle" Louisa county,
| who married. Mary Dnbney. who was his
ton! Sarah Carr was wife Of John Minor,
| OF dropping Castle" Caroline county,
and daughter Of Thomas Carr
John Carr also had n daughter, Sarah
| Carr, who married Nathaniel Anderson.
(see Woods History OF Albcmarle Coun- !
lIty) 10 z. M.
Taliaferro.
Among tho members Of this distln-
~ fs,V1 ~ n -
gust 18Th who deserve especial notice,
may DO mentioned Judge Patrick Rose
Tallnferro and his brother, John Nicholas
Tallafcrro. ESD OF Georgia. They ana
their families ure the only surviving de-
scendanta OF the luto james Talinfcrro.
who removed from Virginia to Georgia
In 1868 Another son Of james Thllaferro
Games Edward Tnllnferro, Jr) died IN
tho Confederate service In 1854. All tha
mon OF this family who were capable OF
soldIers In Thomas Jcncrson's Core
spondcncc.' edited by his grandson Col
oncl Thomas Jefferson Randolph, thcreEi Is
mention Of the italian '"rngliaferro fans
lily. Jefferson procured tho coat-o arms
and descendants OF tho family and sent
proof OF the descent OF the Virginia y, TAI 4
laferros from tho italian family. Tag
llaferro,' no did not state. Tho writer
Is we'll aware Of the hgh social position
OF the Virginia and Georgia Tallnfcrroa
and their we'll deserved reputation for
courage ana honor. IT may be SAID OF
them that 1.-THE men are valiant and hon
orable; tho women wise and good.
s 3f.t READER.
we think tho Taliaferros Of Virginia
arc certainly descended from the rag
liofcrro,. family OF Mr., Jcffersons time.
This family was among n lot OF Italians
he had imported from Italy to establish
the cultivation of the grape at Alonti-
cello, and the spot where they FIRST built
their dwellings was called and Is still
known az. Cole, from an Italian town.
&s 4. e. c. NJ.
Henderson, Miller and Vawter.
In The Times-Dlspatch Of June !. 1907.
FIT is stated that the Aiillers OF West Vir-
ginia, the yawtcrs OF Virginia, and the
descendants OF Lieutenant james Hem
dcrson (who settled in Anguish count =,
Val all bear the same arms. VIZ: the
arms granted TO Sir Ribcrt Henderson IN
1725, These arms were brought 10 Vir-
GINA by Lieutenant James Henderson,
above mentioned.
L. M. W, OF Richmond. says that the
Mlllers OF West Virginia arc not con-
nected with the WAITER family. Now.lt
scems' to me that both T.. e. NJ. and 1.
M. Y. are substantially correct There
are several families named Miller WHO
nro not connected with either the Vaw- &
tiers or the Hendersons. (see the auto
biography of tho famous Scotch seologist, s
Hugh Miller,) But there Is also ono ia7n
ily named Miller and family named
Vawter, who bear tho arms granted 70
Sir Robert Henderson, OF Ireland IN lfs1.
These arms could only have come lnlo
these Miller and Vawter families b:a IN
termnrrlngo with tho descendants OF pit
Robert Henderson. The record given
y. g. NJ. shows that the arms aforesaid
did como into one branch Of the VnWtcr
family that very way. Consequently
these arms cannot be inherited py any
Vawters except those. descended from from
the marriage OF PEGGY Henderson 70 VIII
liam Vawter In 1705 sS -l}
Generally, women take the armorial
bearings OF their husbands families, but
sometimes a woman has her own arms
Qf ntitled to any, Quartered on her nus
bands arms, but this can only 30 done r,,. by
royal permission. No one has legal right
to assume any arms not inherited without
royal authority Armorinl bearings must
always originate with the kings permis-
sion,
According to old records, there were
IIcndersons In Spotsylvanin county va,
before Lieutenant James Henderson emil
grated from ireland to Anguish county
Ma In 1740 There Is no reason 70 suI-
pose snpy relationship between these dr.
rferpnt Henderson families, ~ tracing
family record nothing Is to be depended
:
k not depend on conjecture or public use OF
coat arn,or during tho colonial period.
All who bore coat armor were taxeu
therefor In tho reign OF George ~, SEQ
"Jncobs Dictionary of English Law
Many people suppose that II they bear
tho surname OF an armlgeron's family .
they must be descended therefrom,
greater mistake cannot be mado. In MS
Stunning the arms Of any family. on ac-
count Of having Its surname Wo Amer
Ton oil
Guile of we'll Informed Europeans For ex-
ample, take tho English name of Neville
The mule descendantskof the great Earl
entitled to this name by blood Depend
ants Of the Neville family might legally
assume the Neville surname, thereby
showing who was their feudal lord, Also
people living near NoyIlles Cross Glng-
land might be called Neville. because
NeYillas Cross was their dwelling place.
But those not Of Neville (WarwlclD blood
could never legally assume tho Neville
nrms llnlesB by esnecIal royal permission,