Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11

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men ask you another ouo., Letme
mat conference Mr., Penros,e S ZION At
senator Smoot-At tho ino. Nus
Mr. WorthIngton-At ,hheeuns
ne was proposed and at tbc ~, meeting
he was sustained--- '' 'ohference
senator smoot--Yes. air
Mr.. Worthlngton-As nm A.,
take the place OF Mr. drposle 10
had dled after the April conferel who
| Senator Smoot--Yes air 'enee'
Mr.. Worthington.-Apd y,h.
STATE OF your knowledge M las The
OF ms assemblage In October ,"s ume
MI Penrose's matrimonial roi ,asI az 10
| Senator Smoot--At tho ,,,'a.tlons2
ferred to | had no intlmatlor o,lg le-
that there would be a nomina Ina, %nateyer
that day, and ! doubt Vow, made
| whether there was one OF IN. much
who did. But at that meeting p Apostles
| Joseph #, Smith, whose Hgbt 'Sss'leht
| nominated Charles w. Pcnrnso wa,
Apostle to MI the vacancy ga. as an
the death Of Abraham o VtS nsS1 w
! and I'm nominating him, or stati oouteH,
II was his opinion that he was u .s mat
| per person, he spoke Of his 1aho"es pro.
| what he had done and also ~ ~ ana
ness for the calling Of an Anostius III,
| Tor the work that was moro thar ,u aGu
to dcvolve upon the different ,,,,, usssy
OF the quorum and he was us,eI nos's
| MI Worthington-Thls mattnr w
| be OF some importance. ana II ,,o,, ",ay
call the details OF those rena VG 'e,
should like to have you stato 40 Ss
What did he say about the Vorl ' w.
might devolvc upon the memhsrs
the quorum Of Apostles? "
Senator Smoot-l have NOT thor,,.
| OF II since then, and would moi rsa
| haps be able TO give II In detail p,,
| the substance, OF course was ,hot
good many of the older Apostos So,i
unable to go out and do very r,ns
! preaching that George Teasdaio ,r.a
| very poorly, lndeed-liabe To dron os
at any time; and Apostle Merrill cons
not get out nor had ne been out IN '
conference, ms | remember. for yeo,s
ana that the last appointments that bsd
been made to the Apostleshlp FROM
ClaWson down, We're young men, ana
that he thought that Charles W, Pen.
rose, a man who was capable Of WIN.
| ing, good speaker, one that could haI,
along that line would be a propsr
man for the place.
] did not object at all TO Mr.. Pen.
roses nomination, and at the time
thought he had only one wife. But
do not want the committee TO up.
! derstand that ! want 10 hide behind
that at all, because | do not want To-
l take this position: ! think It proper
and right, where a man was married
before the manifesto, on in other words
before there was any Church law
| against IT, that that man, when II
comes to Church position purely
Church position can accept any posi-.
ton in the Church, for he did not VIC.
| late any law Of the Church, and there.
fore Is, or should be. qualified to nh the
position I'm the Church. l would quail
ify that by saying this, that do not
think that a man who was violating
the law should hold government posi-
| ton, or an appointment from the gov
eminent; and | do not believe there Is
n single soul IN our state who does
| know that we had postmaster at
Provo. Mr.. John c. Graham, who was
a polygamist. and he was removed on
that account, and | think Mrs. Taylor.
Of Salem, was. and | understand now
there Is not federal Office IN our state
held by polyEamlst although have
not investigated to know, But / verify
believe that TO be true.
Mr.. Worthlngton--Of course, as sem
ator you are frequently called upon to
make recommendations as to federal
offices In your state and TO confer with
the president and perhaps with your
brother senators IT, that regard, Let
me know IN what instencs, if At all,
you have, since you have been sena-
tor recommended the appointment to
office OF any man who is a pOlygamlst2
Mr., Smoot.-I have made no such
recommendation, nor do ! ever intend
TO.
Mr.. Worthington-Now to 50 back to
that conference Of last October you
have not told us what, II anything took
place In reference to Apostles Taylor
and Cowley
Senator Smoot--At that meeting the
question came up Of sustainIng-l
brought It up myself-John w, Taylor
and Matthias +. Cowley as Apostles IN
the Church after listening to or hear
ing the testimony that was given be.
fore this committee. BY the way
ought to state that Il was at the meet
ing before this that this question came
up. It was some time before that MI.
Worthngton; II month to two before
that. We held quarterly meetings
there OF the Apostles
Mr.. Worthington-Let me understand
you before you go further was lhs
"A meeting OF the Apostles only or
The Presidency and the Apostles!
Senator Smoot-No; the Presidency
and the Apostles,
Mr.. WorthIngton--All right
Senator Smoot--I brought UP
the question whether they shoun
be sustained ut the coming conference
and smoke Of their being sustained
the April conference. -. n
Mr.. Tayler-That IA, you SPOKE
their having been sustained az "'
April conference? .o,o
Mr.. Worthlrgton--He said ne s9RS
OF their having been sustained AZ WV
April conference. lila,
senator Smoot--I asked the quesuVgn.
was not at the April conference ~
| do not know. But the April coIlc''
ence came up too,
Mr.. Tayler-All right ,J,.,,
Senator Smoot--I asked PreNue,'
Smith If Il was o proper thing 70 ~
tain those men. or 10 ask the pevP'
to sustain them, under the CiIuu'
stances, and he stated 20 me tlat
member Of the Church ] must hmy
that no man could be dropped Wl''VO'
n hearing, and that ,-o
The ChalIman--Who said ms, I'D
Senator Smoot--Presldent smith' ~. n
that 1t was rule Of the Churcn ua'
a man could not be dropped eA s.o,
inundated, or dIsfellowshlpped lV"
tho Church without first haVins
chance to defend himself =, ,bs
recognized that as a RUE W
Church, and 1t was on that only tns
consented that he should be pres9,N "as
and that | voted for him Bul ! ! ,Sst
with the distinct understanding ea
there should be an inyestlgalt,9}n1, . I'1 ,Sst
and have every reason to believe 'po :,
that investigation Is under rWssyS,.y,
has been for some time ana o oe,s
also that they will have that ns ssa d
and / believe that Il Will be protUe', NJ,
the bottom, That is my belief !" v"
matter. al re.
MIR. NYorthlngtop--Suppose' as ,.a
suit OF that investigation. or ot hs' ,soss
IL should turn out that either o. s .lSee
Apostles has taken a plural Wlie s