The evening world., 1905-12-15

NtalA w boNh OH NlOIuelyt hliu uu aHhcQ
me u l would come TO his once on
Monday afternoon, and l told him I
would; and that leads up to the Nom
q. What did Mr. crsyuth tell you had
been done regarding the necessity that
they A. He told me what thsy had
sssss@pt,a ssssa g az ths spgSDtPSsst Ss% %, q
sisted upon its being done at once and
announced In the New York papers.
| Thore was no time 10 confer with ma
dissented and told him that M
Ryan had telephone on his desk and
thee was a telephone ip the Metro
| politan Club and there would not have
been five minutes lost to have been al
least courteous 10 me. lI
Q. When was that announced On tue
pepers-I refer 10 the appointment OF
the trustees? A. think II wds the
next morning, Saturday
q. And prior TO that interview YOU
had no intination from Mr.. Ryan that
letters 70 trustee inviting them to
join had been sentf A. No, sar, In fact
.-one mlnute--1 want TO say here that
my mind has not been on Ito insur-
ance, as you may imagine have been
having my mind on what was trying
10 DO, and have been occupied with
and this committee and everybody Else
to understand hat / have got come
thing else 70 40 besides devotine my
time 70 hfe Insurance. And told
Mr.. Ryan that 80 far as the Equitable
was concerned. with my personal inter
esta. I didn't care anything about X,
that my affairs were much more I'M.
had In II was 70 see that the ques-
Ion was finally solved and the Equis-
able properly protected IN tho matter
and properly safeglarded
= Such a Busy Man.
Those may not have bean my wordA
hut Il was IN my mind and whom q
man has some 1900 4Viles Of railroad
ana IS or 70 steamship llnes-steamships,
with the daily questions coming up that
they DO daily In those matters, he
hasn't got much time % think about
,its insuancei and ! should not think
q, Then Then. THS'f Up to 'iineS Il O'clock on Ffldsy
night there had been nothing said % |
you by Ryan as 10 any participation |
In his purohasef A. No, sri Mr.. Ryan |
was very mysterious. At my FIRST In
tervisw with him on Friday a. TO the |
price, asked him what he paid for IT, |
he tSld me ne was under aSs promise SaS
me. And didn't know when went
paid Ior Il, except the inijmation was
that II involved several millions Of dol
iary
with him fts to whether q was an ABB
solute saisi A. Il think ! said that he
told me that II was conditioned on hs
getting his nominee IN control Jof the
SociSty.
Was Angry Clear Through.
O Well, what was the next interview
A. That was on Monday afternoon.
a. Yes, and who were present? A. Mr.. 4
cravath and Mr., Root think that Mr.. |
Root was not there all the time; but /
he was there part OF the time. | started I
In on my own aooolintr-that hearing /
what they had TO say, WIS incensed |
At the treatment I had received. and II
led me 10 further doubt the sincerity OF
think. with a remark something like
thisi
sfYou want my co-operationV Ne
said "Yes" I said. "weil, will
tell you what I will do. Will
take half Of your stock. don't
know what II cost, nor I don't
care, provided you will agree sci
the appointment Of two additional
trustees-who viii be absolutely
fndependenLe There was no dis
cussion after that at all, except he
saidi IT won't do II. That f. not
what you agreed to- I said what
do you mean I agreed to" He
said sYou agreed that ~ you were
satisfied that l was acting from an
unselesh motive In the interest
OF the general situation and the
Society. that you would help me
and cooperate with me" said'
eyes, I did. and this IL my way
of satisfying myself"
Now, that statement Is clear on my
minA What these gentlemen have said
that / did say after that ! am bound
70 concede; bat / do not remember
AS say, what / was going 10 90 my
self, had clear on my mind, and
have done IT, as Y am IN the habit OF
doing; and after that there was somP
they say, as 10 using my influence In
every way. ! don't know whether /
said political or not. ] may have done
80, but did feel that unless Mr., Ryan
was acting from a pure motive and
not for his own selfish purpose, that
the thing ought TO be stopped and
every effort TO be made by every re-
is what ! intended 10 do.
Q. Did he tel you that he designed TO
have the voting power OF the stock
held Independently by the trustees who
had been named? A. don't think we
went into that discussion; / know noth-
ing more about II than he had agreed
70 sPpoiM ne trustees and what / sAw
@ Did he outline to you his plan of
Stripping himself OF an control 5ver the
st9ckY A don't remember that he
old az that time.
SIR ~ i'
Q. And knew the trustees WIN haa
been requested by him 70 act, ynu had
seen their names2 A. / had seen thelr
names ! thought YOU meant " / knew
them personally
Didn't Trust Ryan.
O. Under those circumstances whv dla
you want or suggest the participation
~ we purcnasey a. In order that there
might be two additional trustees vino
would be Independent OF Rim.
2, Those two trustees would havo
been In the mlnorlty9 A Well. a good
healthy minority Is good thing 10
have.
Q. Did you object to the trustees that
Mr Ryan had sele,ted7 A. ala not.
q. Did you have any reason 10
question heir Independence or
sincer;tyf A. think that any
num5er Of trustees who are APP
pninted In the way Mr. Hynn nD-
pointed them must be more or less /
under The influence of the innn
who appoints them. particularly !
D h. n .N.N
NJ the society ny having his own /
n0minee. man out of his own or
| gRniyRtiOn. nut In control OF its
! oTa'ra NJ nresident.