Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11

senaN,kine the stateule"' .hay
been n' Vas doing that, anu ''
ChlIen mai they were not, ,,t,h
calneI,r .uyler-And he Is charseu W.
NJ IWn.i,to conduct and an apoe-
unchrls,.Il,1, Tor having said ms ,.
tate snIaGas ~ a great struggle II now
"DoupuesSS IN Utah A struggle 10y
hauguIa',so"r liberty for the integrity OF
freedom, l, U for the principles M
hec govsIa' IN American imstthloi,s,
coporauv is 10 be controlled by INC
II the s'a'SS ,he church It's sovereignty
dclatlonn O. ,ts independence is myth'
y Wl,tIdescent dream
And ~ smooth It Is a chargs
stnaWi n must have been phseu
agans. n"fo ct that he had maze
upon ,t TO that eject A.. and
ttatenien AT the close or the lnu-
M ley S,gh council which tried hlm'
ny their decision say a. ham
before w also very gratifying 20 mn
III was thatcher acknowledge we
Brother as the mouthpleces OF the
Apostles ~
Ira understand that an Apostle is d
loI ,isce Of the Lord?
mouthp s,,oot.-Not unless he speaks
Nrao' from the Lord. ] under
By cCni,, Tho President OF the Cnurch
stand ln"s Wing to the Church II the
M.Sn,hniece Of the LORD :. ,,rract
mcoulnTTn s yler-Do you want 10 correct
Ar lament Of the High Council
ms s.a, smoot-Oh, ] could not say
s I,bst could not be- 49, ~
$50 uT1s.,der--Ts II correct that the
NJ lay, mo mouthpeces OF the
Lori' e..,,.r do not so under
fs M. TIs,.ylor-Then this II not correct Z
Mr g smoOt-.l do not THINK ~"
s e.,H'S are the mouthpleces or th'
Mos"r think the President OF the
LLs %uh when speaking
Cnul W ~ ,ier--They go on 10 say
M ss Apostles as the mouthpieces
n tord clothed with authority as
ol wv seers. aud reyelators
s sua smoot-I think a man Is a
.. ovirpt' when he speaks by the spirit
n prophecy -. ,s nat 90, mon
"a Apostcs mixed senator
hI s "tt smoot-An Apostle
s wl 'Tavler-You are an Apostle?
s s smoot-I think an Apostle
oniv he a prophet when be speaks
WIZ TTayjer-Very well, Then this
%i have been quite as accurate II
Il had said A., hes. prothor
thatcher acknowledge that an goa
,t,rn,ons are the mouthpieces or the
Jord clothed with authority as
rrophets. seers, and revelators'
son "t, Smoot-They are not sus-
famed as such. That would De lhe
only difference. 49,,
Mr. Taylor-Do you know who formed
,bls High Council-the chiets OF u
senator Smooth know who the pres
mency Of that stake We're
Mr. Tayler-Who were they
senator Smoot-Angus M. cannon
Mr. Tayler-And Joseph u. Taylor
Senator smoot-Joseph r. Taylor ana
{. W, Penrose.
Mr. Tayler-Three Of the most Intel
,Isent, enthusiastically speaking, OF all
N your Church authorities?
Senator Smoot-Oh, | could not say
that A.. 49,.
Mr. Tayler-l dld not say tne HiosN
Intelligent. say they rank very high
Nh Van Cott--I think you said three
o. the most intelligent,
senator Smoot--I misunderstood you,
then,
Mr. Van Cott-May we have the ques-
lion read?
The Chairman-It Ia not Of SUFFICIENT
consequence. Proceed.
Senator smoot-rhat Ia the way I
understood It,
The ChaIrman-Let the reporter read
The question.
The reporter read as follows;
Mr. Tayler-Three Of the most intel
lIgent enthusiastically speaking, OF all
your Church authoritesg'
Mr. Tayler-In the decision they find
that
The charges against Brother Moses
Thatcher have been sustained. and that
IN order 10 retain his standing and fell
l0wshIp I'm the Church OF Jesus Christ
Of LAtter-day Saints, he publish a state
ment TO the satisfaction and approval
o' the presidency of this stake Of Zion
fully covering the following points"
Then follow a number OF points. 10
one or two OF which wish 10 refer.
First although they are not numbered
IN the decision, but | will so designate
them:
That In taking the position that the
authorities Of the Church, by issuing
lhe declarations Of principles on April
B. 1896 acted I'm violation OF pledges
previously given and contrary to what
lhey had published In the Deseret News
ana given to the Salt Lake Times, he
VAS In error and In the dark"
Senator Smoot--Moses Thatcher 80
stated, that he was mistaken In that
natter ! understand.
Mr. Tay'er-l viii come to his Lam
guage IN moment.
mat he now sees there is no con-
net between that declaration and their
IoImer utterances IN reference TO po-
Iiiical affairs.
mat he was mistaken I'm conveying
lhe idea that the Church authorities
desired and intended to unite Church
GI"u svate or 10 exercise undue influence
ID political affairs.
la 'n'l Weheren the public have been
~ W oe.leNe through His utterances
s"N 'hc leaders % the Church were
,Is,ng chains 10 bind the members Of
ollt '''' gu IMPRESSION was created
,mnEh ne ala not intend and does not
WISH TO prevail.
u.innaat wherein he has placed the au-
turtles OF the Church In false posi-
sUL however unintentioually, he has
uve 'hem an injustice, and is ready TO
"'S STn sueh amends az lie In his power.
p. Inot he acknowledges the First
,.,eHueincy and Council OF the Apostles
ana uoa servants, as prophets, seers,
s s"u leVeiaIors and their authority as
'uppleme IN the Church"
90 you shy at the word "supreme?"
r, "'na'or snoot--l do not know what
IVY mean by "shying."
nMI Iayler--I mean, do YOU feel. as
Gsu IaImage did, as though some
mn .s was going to happen II you per
,o" ,,u Yourself to face that word
po ovaa'9r Smoot--I can not tell how
syo,S I9llmage felt / do not want TO
',9ld thing """' W
ar Tayler No
tblns u omoot-Or question, or any,
swoss 'uai may be asked me. Will an
Ws 70 me best OF my ability.
von ldyler-Ondoubtedly. Senator. hut
t r' neaId Doctor Talmage when In
N''ANitl Tho