The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1905-01-21

. mat NIL, voted Tor iuuse men, but VIII
tho distinct understanding that there ghould
ho hearing aud the whole matter probeo
10 the bottom. II II u proved mat they art
quilts of violating the law OF tho Church
+ by unterirg INTO or performing plural mar
j. rAgrs si4Dr tac manifesto, shall not Nob
( 20 slstuiu them As n'oshrs
Senator Smoot was asked regarding a
meeting at which President Smith spoke
when Mrs Bathsheha smith was present
The senator eaid no va present ith Mrs.
Smolt lie did not understand President
smith 10 advocate tine practice OF polyGany
senator Smoo wa. quest ioLeu .cgardlng
tlc Evans I'm, passed by tie Utah Lrgisd-
ttue and vetc4 = by tine Governor. providing
that peso should not be prosecuted for
poiygnmous colonization except ON com
pllint Of the woman IN The case or 10y near
relatives. Mr. Suoot said hc had talked
with GOV Wells about II. and that ne had
oppressed his disdpproval Of the bii
There is no doubt In the world that
religious classes are held ~ the pubic
school houses IN Utah raid Senator Smoot /,
in reply to Qdcrtio ion. ] have always said
that Il would be BEST for religious classes
not 20 10 held in schooihouses, even after
school closes ! am glad the order pro-
hibitinr them has been issued. In some
counties there arr no pubic buildings and
this condition was brought about IN mat
wav No student is compelled to attend
such clar -es, and no teacher Is compete
TO teach
OF tle Church ls it DOT true nat h csc officials
tr" r1t supreme, lut cIprCise authority Only
D.. consent al the tuurCh \ II II
@ Il l., chnrgsd that the high officials OF
VII" tnurch cucourag" Iol' samF. y IL Is
L0f true
@ 7, IT, charged tho, the high officials
couLivo az prd encourage the practice OF
pol rnmv 10 yont \ do no, Ill.,,
plural marriage entercd int0 after Tue nhp3'-
le-ti. 1tncr than what has sppeared IN the
.h'r-tlVttouf y. have not
Mr W0rthngton here turned the witness
over 10 Nj. Iayler Tor cross Examination.
. 40 YOU b"lryc Apostle hiram II an
non married Lillian Han,in after the mani
tr-tp. A. ! am inclined 20 believe. that he
'd y e% Of +. The ,. testimony f| sbr nSTs'
y Wa4 he THEN an arustlc' A He Was,
9ut be died coon ait"rward ~ that tyesr'
The reports of bis marriage 10 Lillian Ham
l.u were not circulated uHtll after his death
Senator Smoot testified that his faith had
increased and his convictions had deepened
as TO the Mormon religion since he had
become an apostle.
in the rall 81 1891 Mr.. Srnoot returned from
a mission 10 England He was abroad ten
months Before going 10 England he was
folly aware of the prosecutions ot polygamy
IN Utah
o WA- your rather ever prosecuted} A.
ne Ha, arrested aud stood trial and was
.. Didhc 60 into hiding 4 He did not.
g You te1rtiIN approved OF the malue'to
uniting q stop - polyPimous marriages. 4.
did. | thought ii vas u very important
thing IN the history oil our Church.
q You did not understand that It in any
sense dlsparaged the doctrine OF polygamy?
O You have no doubt "a to the divinity
OF The revelation concerning polySeny'
o. You believe it was approved of God and
%s1 Tsst N practice nntil PTo9loied 9g me
I.plt % ltil nc 20 IA
of 'le laws Of ms country do not
Asked regarding the Reynolds case,
decided by the Supreme Court in 1873, pro-
hibitinE polygamv he said he regarded 1t
as bindins. but he did not deny that plural
marriages had occurred since that time.
because many people believed in the prin-
ciplo and that their case had not been prop
erly presented.
Q, Do you understand that Joseph Smith
Is obeJing the law a hoard him testify
As he saws. he is not oebying the laws of the
land do not undersl and thar he IS obey
iug tho law. don't know what his relations
Q Joseph smith testified that he had had
eleven children by his i've wives since the
iaGnifosto. j. that a violation Of the law
o Ia no. Apostle John Henry Smith yio-
latns The law \. think 50. up to the time
Q What reason did he give for violating
the l4W2 4 understood him 20 say thai
be owed 2 duty to his wiye; and tha, he would
chances lnr violating the law
o Did hr not say that he took those ohli-
cations with the plural wives in the approval
Of Godt 4 / don't know.
Q Is that the attitude of all good Nor.
mons who took plural wives! 4. should
thuk they would think 50.
. D.d not Apostle Smith say that the law
Of the land could dssolye that relation or
remove thoae obligations, A. did not hear
a.1. ~. Ill.,. cs..;.,.t. 49,.
ton that he proposed to live with his plural
wives end take his chances was read Mr..
Smoot said he regarded that merely as
the opinion Of Smith and not Of all polyga-
mist- SHOOTS father. for example, obeyed
tho law.
@ pl Ito abandon Biz family: A. No. he
provided for them
Mr. smoot WAS asked about the amnesty
proclamation of 1891 based upon the plea
FOR amnesty signed by thirteen apostles
and members OF the presidency.
q H. t not trne TINT all OF these signers
continued 10 violate tie law. A. ! don't
understand 30
The names were read oyer and Mr.. Srnoot
identified Moses Thatcher, Joseph +. Smith,
Francis ~ lyman Hcbcr j. Grant, John
Henry Smith John ". Taylor NJ W. Mer-
rill and hbram II. Cannon "a those who
bad Violated Che ilw 10y living in polygamy.
The ,gner- Of the plea had promised 10
making ihe plea for amnesty, and it waa
granted on aat understanding
senator Anoot said no understood that
the men NAMED had made the absolute
pledge TO obey the law He was asked
Why he had not protested against this
violation oi good faith, and he replied
tina he had found condition of affairs
in Utah tending 10 tolerate the conditions
a. something that could not be remedied.
and that therefore he had acted a. ell other
people ia tab had acted
%. DO those who I've Nith their wives
tax" tine same view az John lienrv smith
tgbps. tu the effect chat uu law % the land
or lNW or th" Churoh can Interfere with OBJ
legations between them and their Cod3 5.
J couldnt -Ir. 7 don't agree with John
Henry smith do not believe that tina law
oi me lHnd int"rl"te7
q. IN, -icdlv h can interfere. H. Because
d. j. strong. tprHnlv.
MIR Smoot told Of hi- visit to the First
P esidency in 1902. whcn he applied Tor per.
mi sion ~ become a candidate He said
hc asked Tor len-c OF absence
. N the President had refused 10 consent
20 Nour becoming candidate would you
have rum \ 7 don't know. ! would have
consulted mv rrierdo and " had determined
60 run tnd could not obtain consent, should
have resigned
Q II Won had run yithoui consent would
yoi flv. been ogf OF the harmony. T. Yes.
| probably would
~ And Nhnt 2ould Mot reH- s Vol
! can say what The Judgment would De
Speaking 81 Brigham II Roberts. Mr.
enoot sgid Roberts would not hive been
elected 80 Cougrrs, IL he tSmoot could
have prevented h,
q Car an auo-u" attend 70 OUTSIDE business