Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-03-09
MANY EDUCATORS PRESENT.
Debate Has Had the Right OF Way
over All Other Matters 10
The Senate Today
IMPORTANT ISSUE is INVOLVED.
Apparent Determination TO Arrange
For Settlement Of Question That
Has Long Been Troublesome.


The educational problem was the
subject for special consideration at 10
o'clock today IN the senate, and at 2
o'clock In the house Before the sem
ate, for lie rejection or acceptance, were
two radically different reports, the sup
port Of one headed by Hollingsworth
Of Weber, and the other by Barber Of
Cache.
The question Is conceded TO be the
most important one now before the
state, and coming up ON the last allot-
ted day Of the Legislatures life, 1t
found the harmony OF the senate stlll
to the fore. and the willingness to de-
bate and to listen to debate not yet
oyerjaded by sixty days Of constant
exercise.
The fun texts Of the disagreeing re-
ports which are found In another col
umn, made II clear that the question
could not be agreed upon, and that its
final settlement In the house viii re-
suit from the power OF one faction to
outyote the other.
NO VOTE TAKEN.
No vote was reached In the special
session. AT l2.i5, after spirited speechea
from Barber, Bennion, Hollingsworth,
Mckay and Williams the senate adj
lourned until 1880 O'Clock. The motion
that carried was put by Clegg after q
previous one by Johnson had lost, and
was put upon the plea OF Callister that
4 10 IN hn
ter at present--and wanted further time
60 study 1t, ,,.
tWil you be any more ready at 2:S02'
was I.awrenca's quick ret0rt
eyes. / will--that is, II ! am not wor-
ried too much by visitors was Calls
ters reply, and the motion to adjourn
prevailed.
The main point Of BARRIERS opposition
was that at present Cache county felt
that the consolidation move was an act
OF aggression on the part Of Salt Lake
City, and that they would not so regard
the consolidation II II should be recom-
mended by a commission after long ana
careful investigation In and out OF Utah.
His speech was cut into By the sudden
move of the other faction TO adopt his
report with their constitutional amenc-
ment provIso tackled to 1t.
OPENS FOR U. OF u.
Holllngsworth moved when the
consideration OF the reports
came up that his report favor
ing consolidation be called report 3D."
and that the Barber report fayoring a
further investigation by a commission
be called report "a" Both reports.
with attached bills, were then read, af-
ter which Holllngsworth moved the
adoption Of the Barber report, In order
to open the subject for debate. He then
tried TO Introduce into this report
amendments covering the three house
bills, ana the constitutional amend
ment feature OF report B, He explained
that n the Barber report were accept
ed without the provision for the amend
mcnL 1t would leave the matter open
for another recurrence Of the present
problem two years from now With
the amendment before the people tho
special commission could enllghten the
people on the merits of the amendment
and then allow a final action on it two
years from now.
Barber opposed the amendment on
the grounds that the need for the
amendment was exaggerated
Senator Bennon expressed a willing
ness to accept the Barber report with
an amendment carrying the constitu-
thought that this win he the final re-
suit OF the dobate-thus bringing the
ultimate decision only two years from
now Instead OF four.
MANY EDUCATORS PRESENT.
There was an unusual outpourlng NJ
lobbyists TO watch the proceedings. Be-
fore the gesson began the chamber re-
sembled a university reception, each
senator surrounded by group OF
friends Of one or the other Of the two
schools,
Both President Kerr and President
Klngsbury, with members OF his or
their faculties were present, their
coutenances plainly showing the anx-
iety with which they viewed the debate
so vital to their interests. Filling the
seats behind the legislators desks
were university professors, members of
the board OF regents. selected lobbyists
and college men from eastern schools
who came to enjoy the spirited strug-
gle,
AN ANCIENT PROBLEM.
Tho problem Is not new one. Tor
the records Of ten years ago are flled
with the same debates as occurred to-
day Two years ago Senator Bennlon.
the man who now says the situation
must be handled without gloves, intro
duCed resolution looking TO consol-
idatlon. Senator Hollingsworth. whose
signature heads the consolidation re-
port, has among his strongest argu-
ments quotations from speeches OF
President W. u. Kerr Of the Agrioul-
tural college made No The constitution
al convention Among them arc;
1.-THE argument iu favor Of "A concen-
tration Of our higher educational In
stitutlons, Il seems 10 me, is incontro-
vertible, and IN the interests OF econ-
omy in the educational Institutions OF
our state. ] believe that our higher
educational forces should be concern
trated. and that the institutions Of
higher learning In the state should be
under one management and be located
upon the same Hito..,,,. All the str
dents OF the territory for years 10 como
could use the same laboratories IN
physics, chemistry. mineralogy geol-
ogy. biology, and SO on. Thousands Of
dollars have been expended IN tho
University FOR apparatus m those lab
oratories; thousands OF dollars have
been expended I'm the Agricultural coll
lege FOR equipment OF the same labora-