The Montgomery advertiser., 1905-03-25
interesting I.p amony by
 Famous N oman.
HER EXTENSIVE DEALINGS
Borrowed and Loaned Money
 Pr0miscu0usly.
Premier Female Financier Says Her Indebtedness VIII Not Exceed e750,O0O-Additional Assets
 of S20o,e0o Disclosed

~S'SAohu' O.s nalcn z4.--ln pauk- ruptcy court here today Mrs. Cassie L.. Chadwick detailed some of her financial transactions in the court of an examination by Attorney Louis J. Grossman. acting for Trustee Nathan Loeser. Mrs. Chadwick said she was not able to give as many details of these trans- actions as she would like to because of the absence of papers which were held in number of cities. She had sent for the papers and asked to have the nearing continued to next Thursday.
 Mrs. Chadwick testified that her to- tai indebtedness would not exceed $7S0,000. Of this sum, borrowed from various persons, she had received only $sl7.oo0, leaving $26s.o00 for commits sions to the money lenders. She said she owed certain banks in Clevelai1d $2o0.ooo. The names of these institu- tions she was willing to give to MT. Loeser, trustee for the creditors, pri- vately.
 Mrs. Chadwick walked from the county jail to the bankruptcy court this afternoon, distance of about one block. This Is the first time Mrs. Chadwick has appeared outdoors ex- cept in a carriage since her arrest. She looked well and appeared cheer ful. She expressed her willingness to tell all that she could of her financial affairs. Some of the questions that were put to her were not answered be- cause she did not care to give a reply from memory.
 The examination disclosed additional assets of $200,000. Of this amount $sS.000 is due from Charles H. Stewart Of Cleveland and $150.000 worth of jewelry held by Wolfers Brothers of Brussels, Belgium. Mrs. Chadwick as- serted that there are other assets, con- sisting of Jewelry and valuable articles held by other persons for her.
 The examination was conducted in the presence of Mrs Chadwick's four attorneys. who at times interposed ar, ohjection to the questions of ,hsr. Gross-, man and with whom Mrs. chadwick freQuently consulted before she replied to some of the ouestions. Debts of e2y0O0,O00. Mir. Grossman prefaced his questions with the statement that he believed Mrs. Chadwick owed debts to the ex- tent of $2.o0o.000 and of that sum but $loo,00O In assets had been located. He asked Mrs. Chadwick to assist tbe trustee for the creditors in locating all that could be found of her prop- erty. Mrs. Chadwick said she was | willing to this. but important papers she had sent for would be in her pos- session next week. She said the na- l pers were scattered around in Canton. | in Pittsburg. in New York and other | places. She said the effect of the pa. pers would be to show where hundreds Of thousands of dollars worth of prop erty was ana would also make known what sums of money she had borrowed She denied that her indebtedness would amount to $2,000.000 or any
 sum near 1t. She said the sum of $780,
 900, which she admits she owes, would
 include the bonuses paid for the loans.
 Relative to the suit of Herbert D. Newton of Brookline, Mass, to recover $lSO.0O0 loaned by him to Mrs Chad WICK. she said she was not indebted to MT. Newton for that amount
 She said Mir. Newton held her paper Tor that sum but that she did not re- ceive that much money from him.
 How much did he give you actual ly?' Mir. Grossman asked.
 Tt would represent $7S,o00," replied
 Mrs. Chadwick. T obtained $2s,000 in money and notes for the balance. Two $lb.o00 notes were applied on an old debt and two s10,00O note were ne- gotiated. I realized $1o.o00 on one and S4.000 on the other"
 Does the difference between $7s,- 900 and the $1so,soO represent the commissionT'
 | "Yes."
 l Where are these notes?"
 One is in oberlin-one for $10,oOO- and the other $1O,ooo note is in Eu- rope"
 Who has the note in EuropeT
 e. R. Cutler. Brussels broker" where are the two $l5,000 notes?" They are with a banker. I would rather not mention his name" l Enormous Commissions. l Then you paid $112.s00 commission for the Newton Ioans7"
 Yes"
 Mrs. Chadwick said she did not care to state how much she owed James A. Friend of Pittsburg. but after several l other questions had been asked and an- swered she said that the actual sum she had received from Mir Friend was $75.000. For this she said she gave him notes for $150.0O0. She said that MT. Friend had assisted her in making her loans to the amount of $15O,000 Mrs. Chadwick said $225,ooo is the to- tai Of her indebtedness in Pittsburg, Mrs. Chadwick said that besides the | jewelry held in Pittsburg Henry wurst of Elyria and Ludwig Nilsson of New York had in their possession at one time jewelry belonging to her given as security for loans. She said she be- lieved that Mir. Nilsson had hold a rope of pearls valued at as high as $6O, 900 given on 8 loan of $17,000. Mrs. Chadwick also gave her note to Mir. Nilsson for the loan but the note had been twice renewed and Mr.. Ms. son finally sold the rope of pearls To the question of MT. Grossman if there was any Jewelry in Europe, Mrs. Chadwick replied:
 There is some in the hands of Vol fers Brothers of Brussells." What is that transaction?"
 That was Jewelry bought abroad and left with Wolfers Brothers to set. It was not paid for. as 1t was purchased | under contract to be paid for if 1t suited. Wolfers Brothers sent their bill and I paid $10.O00 on 1t. The job was to take about a year. They are now suing me"
 what was the cost of this jewelry?" "I do not remember exactly. I think it was between S15o.o00 and $200.0 .00O." Any one else abroad who holds any | of your jewelry?'
 No, sir
 Any other property--laces or furs:" T would rather tell you in private "Is there any other property in this