The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1905-02-28
BATTLESHIPS
REMAIN IN BILL
Debate Over the Appropriation FoI
the Navy.
CRITICISM OF ROOSEVELT
PREDICTION MADE BY SENATOR
HALE.

ate resumed legislative session TO-DAY.
MIR. Proctor presented the conference
report on the army appropriation bin
and 1t was agreed to without debate
This bill carried the provision relating
10 the pay of retired army officers af-
1ecting the pay OF General Miles, which
has heretofore been a subject of con-
froversy.
The naval appropriation bill was then
laid before the senate.
Mr.. Morgan. discussing the proposed
increase Of the appropriation for the
marine corps, declared there could BE-
no excuse for such an increase in the
interests OF peace.
Answering Mr.. Hale's remarks made
ON Saturday, Mr. German said this adj
mlnistration was going beyond the
policy established by England more
than century ago and that at this
time such expenditures were extra
Nagant and unnecessary. He referred
70 the history of the English navy when
1t was used TO collect duties from the
American colonies, and compared il
with the position of this country in
Santo Domingo today. Il suppose If
This is to continue he said. that we
viii soon have our marines in all of the
weaker South American republics
No Money For Improvements.
The adoption of this policy, he said.
was no doubt responsible for the in
crease in the bill, and that public i'm
prOvements have been paraIyzed by
the big appropriations for the army
and navy Public buildings and river
and harbor improvements had been ut
terly sacrificed He gave the total ap-
preparations for the navy during the
four years of the civil war at $314 000
GOO and the appropriations for the
navy I'm 1891 to 1904, inclusive, at S313-
600 600.
The time is close at hand" he said,
when the people will not tolerate these
conditions at the cost of trade interests
or the country"
Will Soon Be Obsolete.
Mr. German predicted that the big
16WO-ton battleships in ten years would
De as obsolete as the Texas" Refer
ring to the request for an increase to
complete the proposed scout ships in
order to make them as fast as those of
any government in the world. Mr.. Cor
man said that the secretary Of the
navy, who may know more about run
1lng a railroad than he does a navy
has applied correct business principles
The ships would have been of no use
TO him If he had not come to congress
for this Increase
The amendment providing that the
limit OF cost, exclusive of armor and
armament, of each of the GOLFERS and
scout cruisers shall be S1,45O, 900, was
agreed to.
carmack's Amendment.
Mr.. Carm1Ck submitted an amend
ment to reduce the number of battle
ships TO be provided by the bill from
Two 70 one, and Mr.. Blackburn sup
ported the amendment. He said this
was the first time he had ever opposed
the most liberal increase of the navy.
but if the ships provided for in the bin
are built It would be necessary to in
crease the navy to $4,000 men i'm order
20 man the vessels
Mr.. Blackburn said the battIeships'
Fighting qualities have not been es-
tablished. Japanese destruction of the
Russian navy had not been accom-
plished with battleships. Japan had
hut four Russia had fourteen. and
where are they now?"
Every time we build new battle
ship we have new spasm OF terror
and every time we have the spasm we
build the new ship said Mr.. Car
mack in beginning a speech in deDre-
cation of too great increase of the
navy.
Strenuous President.
We have just elected to the Office
OF chief executive he said. the most
militant and strenuous gentleman who
ever planted his arm or heel upon our
Eoil- He has inculcated the love of
war for its own sake: he teaches the
doctrine that peace is destructive of
all virtues; he is infected with an in
durable propensity to interfere with
Aehe affairs Of other nations. especially
with those of the republics TO the
I south of US"
He asserted from these ctrcum-
stances other nations have a right to
conclude that we are arming for ag-
erosion rather than for defense.
since" ne went on. the president
threw the arbitration treaties into the
fire because the senate would not sur
render its treaty prerOgatives. we
have a right to conclude that he is in
tent on increasing his own powers
rather than maintaining the peace of
the world"
Mr.. Carmack moved to strike out
one OF the battleships and Mr. Hale
explained that the two ships was
conservative increase, and less than
the demands of the general board.
iaIe's Prediction.
Mr. Hale repeated a prediction made
by himself last year that If the naval
boards were to be followed the ex-
penditure on ACCOUNT of the navy
~ ould be not INss than 5000 600 900
which he said the people would not
stand
Mr.. Hale said: Il want a strong
navy for one simple reason. because 1
believe il is the guarantee OF peace In
this age you cannot defend the coun-
try with buster and you cannot go on
the theory that no one viii attack us
because we are rich aud strong
Continuing. he said tnat the autocra-
Cies of Europe did not like us: that they
were all land hungry and would not re-
srain from landing troops in South
American countries but for the near
ness Of American fleets.
Lodge For the Defense.
Mr.. Lodge said he was not so con-
Cerned about the Philippines as about
she peace OF our own country and re-
plying to Mr.. Carmack. said he was
certain he did not differ from the pres
Ident Of the PHILIPPINE question, and he
added:
Il am certain I don't differ a
hairs breadth from him on the uues-
ton of maintaining peace in the United
states. He also enlarged on the uues-
ton Of extending our Oriental trade and
preventing the partition of China
Turning his attention to one OF Mr.
Hale's utterances, he said: