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The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
BLOW At DIVORCE
STRUCK IN CANADA
Death, Not Courts, May sunder
Ties and Permit Marriage
of Divorce.
New York Sun Special Service.

New York Sun Special Service.
Quebec, Sept. l1.-No clergyman ow-
ing obedience to the Church of Eng
land in Canada, hereafter can solemnize
a marriage for a divorced person as
long as the other party to the divorce
is living.
This was the decision reached by the
general synod of the Dominion of Cana
da, representing every. diocese and part
of the country from the Atlantic to the
Pacific, and from the American boun-
Diary to the Arctic ocean.
The bishops were unanimous on the
subject, nineteen of them being present.
Only eight of the clergy opposed it.
Bishops Doane Of Albany. futile Of
Missouri and MORRISON Of Duluth,
spoke strongly on the evils Of divorce
nj the United States, and a statement
which had great weight in producing
the adoption of the canon was that
made by George G. Thomas Of Philadel,
phia, who said an American judge told
him he dissolved ten times as many
marriages as any clergyman solemnized.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11

he had prepared it several days be-u,
fore his disappearance. If Herzig has:
made truthful statement and hasa1
taken his own life, there is no doubtn:
but that the body will be found soon. 8
company of this city was resident of ps
Youngstown at the time of the mur-S'
der mentioned and when Sterling was
hanged. He says the details of theea
killing of the girl are substantially corr
rect and remembers that Sterling. was
convicted on strong circumstantial evil
dence. A letter has been addressed to- .
Mrs. Catherine Herzig at Girard, Ohlof
and some light may be thrown on this I
purported confession if she is still hv1 ,
ling.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
ODD FELLOWS HAVE
l,H6,997 MEMBERS
New York Sun Special Service.

- =
Allentown. Pa, Sept. i1.-Robert p.
Wright Of Allentown, grand sire q the
Independent Order of Odd Fellows,
completed his report to the sovereign
grand lodge, which will meet in eighty,
next week. The report represents in
detail the condition Of Odd Fellowship
thruout the world. It shows there are
1885 subordinate lodges, 3,172 encamp-
ments, 6,876 Rebekah lodges, and ST.
.cantons Of patriarchs militant, with a
total membership of 1,7l6,997. The
relief paid during the past year by all
those branches amounted to $4,633,64
The income of the order last year was
$13,638,791, and its resources are $37,-
645,071.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
MILLIONS SET APART
TO BUY IRISH LANDS

London, Sept. 11.-Walles Hume
Long, chief secretary for Ireland, an
nounces that the e treasury y has agreed
to $10,000,000 before the end of the
year, together with such an amount of
stock during 1906 as will produce $780,
100000 cash to facilitate the operations
of the Irish land act and to remedy the
recent stoppage of sales of land thru
inability to advance the purchase
money owing to lack of funds.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
NEARLYSEVERS VICTIMS
HEAD WITH PENKNIFE

Milwaukee, Sept. lin a quarrel Z
between William Stittuan, saloon l
keeper, and Joe Jonas, farmland, at Il
Hubertus, about twenty miles north (
west of this city, Stittuan IS head was 1
nearly severed with penknife. Jonas !,
was arrested charged with murder, and
lodged in Jail at Hartford.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
By w. w. Jermane.

BY w. w. Jermane.
Washington, Sept. 1l.-Senator Elk
ms has confirmed the suspicious of all
friends Of railroadrate legislation who
have followed that question since the
close Of the last session of congress.
in New York, that he had hopes to see
legislation enacted by the session which
will meet in December; that the coun-
trv is demanding legislation and must
have it, and that the majority Of the
members of congress are in sympathy
with that demand.
Then he proceeds to say that he will
introduce a bill which will pass the
entire question of determining rates
create new circuit court of nine mem
bers or have nine of the present circuit
Judges formed into a tribunal to fix
rates. Such bill, he thinks, can be
passed thru both houses.
~. Two Ways Of Fighting.
There are always two ways Of op.
posing proposition with which one Is
not in sympathy. One is by direct and
open methods, the other is by lndlrec.
| effective.
Senator Elkins is VIGOROUSLY hostile
to the presidents railroad plan. Al
| the same time he recognizes that there
! is a genuine demand for legislation anc
as a good politician he cannot openly
oppose it. In addition, he has a cam
paaign for reelection to the senate. com
| ING on next year and for personal rea
sons he must not openly try to defeat
the presidents purpose.
i SO he offers the III larry gold brick
He plays on the dSnfaence the public
has in the federal Judiciary and pro
poses that the question of railroad rates
be passed up to that body. He ever
SAYS that he$hopes to convert the presl
dent to his view. s5
Moody's Opinion.
| On May 5 Of this year, while the Ell
kins committee was in session, taking
testimony on the railroad question, tn
attorney general submitted, by request
an opinion confirming the govern
mental power to regulate the operation
of railroads, especially in the respect O.
fixing rates for transportation; b.
whom that power, so far as it exists il
the national government, may be exer
cised constitutionally, and what limit
to the power, if any, are presented b.
the constitutions!
Mr.. Moody's opinion filed twelv
pages of the published hearings Of tn
Continued on I'd Page, Sd Column.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
HARVESTER OWNS
TO GIRLS MURDER
Diabolical Crime Thirty Years Old
Confessed by North Da-
kota Stranger.
Let His Companion Be Executed
for the Crime Tragic Story
from Minot.

When my lifeless body is found,
notify my mother, Mrs. Catherine
Herzig, Girard, Ohio. The Enclosed
letter will reveal my identity and
the awful secret of my wretched
life. can endure it no longer.
Frank.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
o1p.HoME WEEK IN NEWPORT.

OLD-HOME WEEK IN NEWPORT.
Newport. r. l., Sept. 11.-''Perry day. the
most important day III '.old-home week" IN this
city, and named in honor of Rhode Islands
great naval hero, Commodore Perry, was OBJ
Served today. The principal event was naval
parade Of sailors and marines from the North
Atlantic feet and apprentice seamen from the
naval training station.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
100 HURT IN PANIC.

Salamanca Spain, Sept. lit is estimated !
that 12O persons were injured some seriously,
during panic at cattle show here today.
when frightened animals ran into crowds OF
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
Russian Stories of Agreement.
CRUSHED BY AN AVALANCHE.

Berne, Switzerland, Sept. ia telegram was
received today from the Swiss expedition which
is attempting to reach the summit of the West
ern Himalayas saying that Lieutenant Bache
has been crushed by an avalanche and that the
expedition is returning.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
FAVORS IN JAPAN, TOO
Kaneko Says He Has Arranged an
Alliance with America.
New York Sun Special Service.

New York Sun Special Service.
Oyster Bay, Sept. 1l.-"My mission
to this country has been to bring about
an economic and commercial alliance
between the United States and Japan
for the development of the far east. |
consider my mission accomplished and
am going home.'
Baron Kaneko, the confidential agent
of the emperor of Japan, the man who
is considered in many quarters as hav-
ing played an even more important part
- in the peace negotiations than Baron
Komura or Minister Takahira, made
the foregoing statement after fare
we'll visit to President Roosevelt at
Sycamore Hill.
It was the first public announcement
that Baron Kaneko was about to end
his eighteen months residence in Amer
ca. It Immediately gave rise to the
report that his departure has been has
tily decided upon and that he takes
with him to Toxic information of the
first Importance to the United States
and Japan.
Russian Stories of Agreement.
Russian official organs have repeat.
edly asserted that a secret agreement
has been entered into between Japan
China and the United States, by which
carried forward with American hnan
cial backing. Heretofore, however
there has been no official utterance
that would give color to the report
Now Baron Kaneko says.
CHOW that the war is over, the
United States and Japan must OF ne
cessity work hand in hand in solving
the new commercial problem of the fal
east.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
Palmer an Honest Man.

In Mr.. Palmer's behalf it should be
said that he is personally an honest
and well-meaning man. During the
earlier years of his long term as public
lis strength i or to to- emphasize certain t
idiosyncrasies which of late have been
very marked, and his services were en-
tirely acceptable. It is generally adj
mitted that he has outstayed his use
fulness.
Mr. Ricketts,, who succeeds him tenn
porarily, has for several years been an
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11

Continued on I'd Page, 4th Column.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
EVERY MONTH

The Journal Has Carried More
Advertising in Six Issues a
Week than Any Other Twin
City Newspaper in Seven.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11
GET THE HABIT.

OF Using Journal Want Ads. You
Can Fill Every Want by a Lit
tie Interesting Study of the
Want Pages.
The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-09-11

Body Not Found.
Mr.. Dyer, upon reading the note,
called to his assistance, several men
thoro search Of the entire section was
made but no trace of Herzig's body
could be found. .
Herzig had been sleeping in small
shed in the rear Of the shack occupied
by Dyer. He seemed to be of rather
respondent nature, and after the day s
work was done would Immediately seek
the seclusion Of his shed bedchamber.
He was very early riser and always
had the fire going when Mr.-Byer arose.
3 The date of his confession shows that
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
National League Averages.

New York, May 16.-According to
the latest batch of National league
averages, Joe Tinker of the Chicago
club leads the procession in batting,
with Roy Thomas of Philadelphia
second.
Twenty three players have over
enough to bat 800 or better, thirteen
Of the number belonging to the four
eastern clubs. and only ten to the four
western teams.
Hans Wagner leads in base running,
and Mike Donlin in long hitting. New
York has a heavy margin in team bat
ting.
Bergen and Carisch lead the catch
ers in fielding, and Fred Tenney the
first basemen. Gilbert leads at sec
Ond, and Bridwell at third.
Dahlen heads the shortstops, and
several outfielders still have unbroken
records. Pittsburg leads in team field
ing, and Brooklyn has a wide lead in
double plays.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
He LIVED TWO LIVES.
Unusual Defense Set Up in Murder
Trial.

SomerviIle. n. J., May 15.-That
George Wood had a dual personality
and that his better nature knows moth
ing of anything that may be done I'M
der the influence of the evil spell will
be the defense made by Woods at
tOrney when he is put on trial here
today for the murder of George VIII
liams last winter 1t is believed this
will be the first time this novel de-
tense has been offered in a murder
case in the history of criminolOgy.
Williams, a storekeeper in the viii
lage of Wachung, n. J., was found
shot to death in his sleigh near his
home last February. He had started
from the village to drive a strange
man to a farm house some distance
away and suspicion at once rested on
the stranger Wood was arrested and
identified as the man who had accom-
poined Williams and was charged with
the murder At the time of his arrest
he asserted that for three days his
mind had been a blank and that he
remembered nothing of that period.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16

Milwaukee, May 16.-There was a
change in the Kansas City makeup be-
fore the Blues left for Omaha last
night. Manager Irwin released Suter
Sullivan to the Louisville team. Sulli-
van left at once for st. Paul, where he
will join the Colonies. He is wanted
badly just now, as Hart has quit the
Colonies. George Tebeau had a confer
ence with Manager Irwin in Chicago
this morning and felt very blue over
the way things looked in a baseball
way for him. Manager Joe Cantillon
of the Brewers is trying to get Infielder
Schwartz from the Cleveland club so
that he may shift him to Des Moines.
He will also get Wolfe back in a short
time. Pitcher Walter Mueller, released
by Milwaukee, received an offer from
Newark and may sign in the Eastern
league.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16

From the Oklahoma City Times
Journal: ssSpeck" Hurlburt is playing
a star game in the outfeld for the
NETS but no other player receives
more jeers from the fans. Hurlburt
throws several kinds of duck fits when
things don't go to suit him, which IS
disgusting in the extreme.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16

The Leavenworth dopesters are call
ing the Joplin team the woodpeckers.
Leavenworth had better keep quiet.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
Western Association at a GInnce

TOPEKA-ABBOTT, MANAGER.
Catehers-Henry, Stewart.
Pitchers-Howie, Hughes, Alderman, Car
ter, Letherby.
First Baseman-Abbott.
Second Baseman-Dunn.
Third Baseman-BrOWn.
rtstop-Quigley-
out Fielders-Cole. Persch. Crum.
WICHITA-KIMA4EL, MANAGER.
Catcher-O'Leary.
Pitchers-A1ilfon Brandum, CraVenS,
Bemis, Gehring-
First aseman-Henley.
Second BaSenan-Allen.
Third Baseman-Cope.
ShOrtStOp-Ac
out Fie1ders-Murray, Bevis, Price.
OKLAHOMA CITY-RISLEY, MAN
Cateher-seigle
Pitchers-Maire, Root, Woods, Halla.
First Baseman-Milsap.
Second Recommendations.
Third sBaseman-Eri
ShortstOp-Risley.
Out Fielders-Hurlburt, Scoggins, VIII
son, Shumeyer.
GUTHRIE-DoWNs, MANAGER.
Catchers-Brown, Quiser.
Pitchers-Henderson, Womack, Logan,
Hamilton
First Baseman-Berry.
Second Baseman-DoWns.
Third Baseman-Collins.
ShortstOp-Jones.
out Fieiders-Pettigrew. Graves. Mon
LEAVENWORTH-A NAN
AGER.
CatcherS-D1F1ch, Armstrong.
Pitchers flaming, Nelson, Ford, An
derson, Church.
First B8 seman-Rapps.
Second aseman-Luettke
Third Baseman-LY
Shortstop-St John.
Out F'ielders-WOoley, Harrington, CAL
Ioway, Ketchen, Halpin.
SPRINGFIELD-ZO MAN
AGER.
Catcher-Sebaugh
Pitchers-Groom. Speers Steele Ellis.
First Baseman-Porter.
Second aseman-A1arriott.
Third accommodating
Shortstop-Burns.
out FieIders-Zoellers, F'reil, Kern.
OPL1N-FILLMAN,A MANAGER
Catcher-Vanderhill
Pitchers-Morris, Horton, Durbin
First ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Second Baseman-Olson.
Third Baseman-Pendry.
hortstop-Fillman.
Out Fielders-Bayless, Sullinger, Baer-
valid.
sEDALIA-ROHN, MANAGER.
Catcher-Cheek.
Pitchers-Davis, Curtis, Hutter.
First asen4an-ROhn.
Second Baseman-Lee.
Third em2n-McDill
ShOrtstCp- Kite.
Out Fielders-Bauers, Ford, Bluejacket
No man can cure consumption You can
prevent it, though. Dr.. Woods Norway
Pine Syrup cures coughs, colds bron-
chitis, asthma. Never fails
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
Make a Stop at Harrington and
Deliver Addresses.
POLITICAL INTEREST.
Talked About Crops But Other
Matters Discussed.
At the Mcpherson Government
Farm and Manhattan.

Herington, Kan, May 16,-James
Wilson, secretary OF Agriculture, and
his party were entertained here Mon
day afternoon. Fully 1000 repre-
sentative farmers of this section were
in town, but many were unable to gain
admission to the opera house, where
the meeting was held. Secretary Will
son was accompanied by Prof. J. A.
Spillman, in charge of the department
of grasses and forage crops; M. A.
Carleton, expert cereaHst, and his son
and Secretary Jasper Wilson. The
party was escorted by John Sebastian
passenger and traffic manager; l. NJ.
Allen, general passenger agent; George
T. BOggs, vice president, and several
other Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific
officials.
The party arrived here in a special
train of private cars furnished by the
Rock Island system. Other agricul-
turists present were F. D. COburn, sec
rotary of the state board OF agricui-
ture; President Nichols and Prof. Err
of the State Agricultural college,
The meeting at the opera house was
presided over by Mr.. Coburn and talks
were made by Secretary Wilson, the
government experts, Mr.. Coburn,
President Nichols, Prof. Err Colonel
Robson of the railroad commission
and others.
The local committee had arranged
an elaborate banquet and social enter
tainment for the guests at night, but
AN appeal from the faculty to visit the
Agricultural college at Manhattan
prevailed and the special left for that
place in the afternoon at 4 o'clock.
During his stay here Secretary Wilson
was particularly anxious to meet all
the Kansas farmers possible and took
lively interest not only in crop cOndi-
lions but also in political affairs. His
speech was of a general nature. He
praised Kansas and its agricultural
possibilities and progress.
AT MANHATTAN.
Secretary Wilson and the govern
ment experts accompanying him on his
tour of the southwest spent the entire
day in this state, arriving from Texas
this morning in a special train on the
Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific road.
The first stop was at Mcpherson,
where the government experiment
farm was inspected From Herington
the special train came here, where the
party inspected the State Agricultural
college. Today also will be spent in
this state. Secretary Wilson and the
experts will speak in Horton at 2;3O
O'Clock in the afternoon.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
Rasebau Notes.

Jack Chesbro's spitball arm has
been chilled since the drenching it got
on the opening day with Washington,
when it poured while the game was
being played.
Doesn't look as if the Washingtons
would finish last this season.
Wouldn't it be funny if they landed in
the first division? Look out for them.
Boston Herald.
Jack Boyle, the former old Phila-
delphia backstop. played first base for
Toledo the other day, after being out
of professional ball for long while.
He made two hits.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
MAXIM's MAXIM.
Modest Claims Often Carry More Con-
viction Than Loud Boasts.

When Maxim the famous inventor,
placed his gun before a committee of
Judges he stated its carrying power to be
Considerably below what he felt sure the
gun would accomplish. The result Of the
trial was therefore a triumph Of surprise
instead of disappointment. as it might
have been if he had overestimated his
guns efficiency.
Our claim regarding Newbro's Herpicide
is based on actual scientific facts
If a living germ is causing your hair to
fall out it's the most sensible thing to kill
that germ
and effectually. Destroy the cause you
remove the effect.
Sold by leading druggists. Send 10c in
stamps for sample to The HeTpicide Co,
Detroit. Mich. RoWley & Snow. special
agents.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
ADfERIcAN ASSOCIATION STANDING.
Washburn 6. Bethanv ?.

Lindsborg, Kan, May 16.-Washburn
defeated Bethany by the score of to
2 Monday afternoon. Holm, for Beth
any, struck out sixteen men and allowed
Bethany has lost this year. Holm has
made a wonderful record this season,
having struck out one-half the batters
that have faced him. Washburn secured
her scores by errors Of Bethany and
timely hits.
Score by innings: R-H. 2.
Washburn 80. 30 0O3 30OO-6 2
Bethany 80. ........0 0 0 002 0 o.
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. and Dadisman;
Holm and Nordstrom-
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
IS MARCHING ON.
Washington Playing a Game
That Is Surprising.
Aided by Good Work of Hughes
Cleveland Shut Out.
ARE GREAT HUSTLERS.
In the National New York Out
plays Chicago.
Pirates Also Defeated by the
Boston Team.
ARE GREAT HUSTLERS
Games Today

Games Today.
IN THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION.
Columbus at Kansas City.
Louisville at ST. Paul
Indianapolis at Minneapolis.
Toledo at Milwaukee.
IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE.
Pittsburg at Brooklyn.
Cincinnati at Boston.
Chicago at New York
St. Louis at Philadelphia.
IN THE AMERICAN LEAGUE.
Washington at Detroit.
Philadelphia at Chicago.
New York at St Louis.
Boston at Cleveland.
IN THE WESTERN ASSOCIATION.
Oklahoma City at Topeka.
Guthrie at Wichita.
Springfield at LeavenWorth.
Joplin at Sedalia
IN THE MISSOURI VALLEY LEAGUE
Fort Scott at Parsons.
Pittsburg at Webb City.
Vinita at Tulsa.
Muskogee at South McAlester.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
Are BniIdfng EIevators.

Hutchinson, kan, May 16.-The Rock
Grain Milling and Elevator company have
commenced the erection of a. 10000 bushel
elevator at Griggsby in Scott county. Mr.
to oversee the work and make reports to
the head office. This station will be used
as feeder for the Hutchinson house.
The Hutchinson company has purchased
q 1900 bushel elevator from Edward &
Son at Castleton. They have already ta-
ken possession.
They will also build a 1900 busheI ele-
vator at Pretty Prairie, commencing in
located south of the Cooperative elevator,
on the land recently purchased from Ell
ward
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
~ 2 Ut us elIIN n % 49,
AT MANHATTAN.
is RAISING HAWKS.
Hutchinson Man Hatched Five of
Them in an Incubator.

Them in an Incubator.
Martin Hoagland, of Hutchinson, is
bird fancier. He has an incubator
and last year Matched a large number
of chickens and some ducks. Some
time this spring Mr.. Andrews, of En-
terprise township, brought Mr.. Hoag-
land eight hawk eggs. He had found
them when the mother hawk was
away and brought them to town. Mr..
Hoagland put them in the incubator
along with a lot of chicken eggs and
in % days five of them had Matched
They have no feathers on them, and
they don't look very pretty to say the
least. The chickens Matched out in
q days, beating the hawks one day
and being strong enough to fight their
own battles among their lifetime en-
emies. The hawks are showing some
growth, however, and they may have
to be separated from the chickens in
a short time to keep peace in the
family, for there's nothing that looks
so good to a. hawk as a yellow-legged
chicken.-H News
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16

Pitcher Williams. for whom Presi-
dent Sheard is dickering, has not yet
been cinched and there seems to be
some doubt of his coming. He was
to have been here yesterday The
management will tell little of his
identity but Jack Henry who recon-
mended him says that he is a star Of
famous magnitude.
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16
Cantain the Tennis Tean.

New YORK, May 16.=Although not
officially announced it has been de-
cided by the international committee
of the U. S. n. L. T. A. that Paul
Dashiel, the well known football au-
thority, will go to England this spring
as captain of the International tennis
team. All question of the number of
players to be allowed to each team has
been settled, and there will be four
men sent from America in addition
to Dashiel The only thing that has
delayed the official announcement of
the makeup Of the team has been the
selection of the fourth man. which is
still in doubt
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-16

Nick Carter is getting the spit ball
away. better than any pitcher in the
league. At least so the gossip runs