The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1905-11-16

surance society and connected with
many railroads and financial institu-
tions. the former friend Of James Ha-
zen Hyde. against whom the latter
charged acts Of an unfriendly nature in
his testimony yesterday. was one Of
the chief witnesses before the Arm
strong committee on insurance investi-
satiOn today.
Mr. Hartman was called Immediately
after recess, and his testimony was
series of denials of the charges made
by Mr.. Hyde
Mr.. Hartman said that MIR. Hyde
Saire To him about month before the
fi5h settlement Was made and asked
SIn 20 use his influence to induce Gov
"rEOr Odell 70 settle his suit against
\ ,ne Mercantile Trust company. Mr..
hyde told him that the Odell suit was
dangerous 10 the Mercantile Trust COM
pany IN that IL might induce other suits
10 be brought by other people who had
subscribed TO the bonds of the United
states Shipbuilding company. Mr.. Har-
fiman said he arranged an interview
between Governor Odell and Mr.. Hyde, |
which was held in Mr.. Harrimans Of |
nee. Governor Odell seemed to be ir-
ritated after the interview.
Settled odell Suit.
Some days later Mr.. Hyde and AR !
Colby visited Mr. Hartman and Mr.. |
Hartman promised 10 see Governor
Odell and try to get him to do some
thing about settling the suit. Another
interview between Governor Odel and
Mr.. Hyde took place. il may have been
at Mr.. Harriman's house. AfterWard }
Mr.. Hyde told Mr.. Hartman that he
was willing 10 pay $4,000 and asked
MIN 10 try to get the governor To ac-
cept that amount. Governor Odell told |
Mr.. Hartman that if he Hartman !
advised It he (OdelD would settle for
that amount.
Il told Mr.. Hyde after that inter-
view, said Mr.. Hartman, and said /
To MN that II / were i'm his place and
We're negotiating to settle il. while ! /
mad no advice 10 give as whether it /
should be settled or not l would not
stand on $4,000 on a settlement Of that /
KIND. ! would make il satisfactory II
understand that Mr.. Hyde saw him and
payment We made, Of which / had no
further knowledge"
Did Not Know About the Bill.
In reply TO inquiries by MIR. Hughes. I
Mr.. Hartman said Governor OdeH did /
not tell him that a bill had been intro /
duced in the legislature To repeal the /
charter of the Mercantile Trust COM /
pany, and that his first intimatiOn os /
this came from his counsel today
Did you say anything 20 Mr. Hyde /
IN any of these interviews as to the /
desirability OF settling the suit because /
ot the power that might be exercised |
against the company at Albany" asked I
Mr. Hughes.
No. sir"
Did YOU make any mention 10 Mr. |
Hyde OF amy attempts that had been or |
might be made 10 repeal the charter of /
the Mercantile Trust company
No, sir
Request Came From Hyde.
y MIR. Hartman said that he made no /
Reference TO the advantage of a set
tlemen in order 10 avoid an attack /
upon the company and that Governor I
odell did not request him 20 use his
influence To obtain q settlement of the |
claim. Governor OdeH, Mr.. Hartman |
said, had no interview with him TO |
bring about a settlement. but the re- |
quest came exclusively from Mr. HYDE /
A portion of Mr.. Hydes testimony in /
which he said Mr. Hartman had sug-
geSted 10 him that an effort might be J
made 10 repeal the charter of the Mer- /
camille Trust company was then read /
10 Mr.. Hartman, who said that ne did |
not make such suggestion to Mr.. !
Hyde Mr.. Hartman also denied haN-
ing said 10 Mr. Hyde, as Mr.. Hyde had /
testified. that there was a possibility OF !
powerful interests at Albany doing /
harm to the Mercantile Trust company
because of the ship-buldiug loss. He /
also denied saying ANYTHING 10 Mr. |
Hyde about the repeal Of the charter /
Of the Mercantile Trust company and /
declared that he did not know Of any /
rumOr that "a bill was introduced TO re- /
peal that charter
French Ambassadorship.
About year ago. Mr.. Hartman said. |
Mr. Hyde came To him and asked him /
10 use his influence TO have him APP /
pointed an ambassador 10 France. and |
that he (Alr. Hartmann promised when /
hc saw the president 10 speak To him /
about il. He said that he did so. but /
Gid not recommend Mr. Hydc's appoint I
ment,
Mr.. Hartman said he did not know I
whether Governor Odel did anything I
about the appointment. There was no !
connection, Mr.. Hartman said, be- /
tween Governor Odells claim and his !
own action on the amha ssIdorship. Mr. I
Hartman said he mentioned the sub /
1ect of the Odell suit 10 President
Roosevelt but did not remember /
whether the president was consulted I
about IT,
Advice to Hyde.
Mr.. Hartman said that early i'm the /
Equitable troubles De had defended Mr.. /
HYDE from the attacks on him. hut had .
advised him 10 favor the adoption of me B.
Prick report and told him that if be-
would do it,. he (Mr Hartman would
stand by nv Hyde through thick ard
thin. lie also advised Air. HYDE. he said. ,
a. state that the methods DEE had pur-
. S'fed were IN Use when he went into the 7.
e1ciety. and that he was Young and in T
experienced, that he was sorry and hoped +
10 retrieve himself if he were given an +
oppOrtunity Mr.. Hyde. the witness said, /
Objected 10 doing that
Mr. Hartman said ne might have told /
Mr.. Hyde that IL would be good thing /
10 have such "A committee appointed "a /
the one headed by Mr. Frick He de- !
elared that he had never said that the |
report of the Frlck committee would he :
favorable 10 Mr. Hyde ard that he was
HYDE stock and had told Mr. Hyde and /
Afr. FriCk that Mr. Hyde ought not 20 |
sell it,
Offered to Put Up 100000.
on the day before the report OF the
Prick committee was presented. Mr.. Har-
riman said. he told M HYDE that be
did not think anybody n the Equitable
society or Mr.. HYDE should own thC
ST Mr.. Hyde had any fears on that sub
iect, he fHarrimanl would subscribe
sjA0.009 10 d fund 10 HELM him hold il. thar
IL he thought il desirable 90 turn il over
20 the Equitable without any pay for II
Mr. Hartman thought others could De
induced 10 10 the same thing,
Ar. Hartman did not recall that Mr.