The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1905-06-14
WHYTHERB'SNO
HOWARD GOULD TELLS THE REA-
son on WITNESS STAND.
Denies That His Vito Ordered Archi.
tect Hsydei ont Of Their Apartments.
but She Said He Might G0-Expert Ties.
timony-Mrs. Gould TO Testify To-day.

but She Said He Might G0-Expeft les
timony-Mrs. Gould TO Testify To-day
Howard Could defendant In suit fol
$50. 900 brought against him by Architect
Abner J. Haydel for plans drawn for a
dwelling on the model Of Kilkenny Castle
In Ireland. took the stand yesterday after
noon In the court room, Mineola, l.. l.
After the testimony for the plaintiff was
In Henry A. Montfort, for Mr.. Gould, moved
to dismiss. This was denied. He then
called Mr.. Gould to the stand. Mr.. Gould
spoke in a low voice. After acknowledge
ing that he had employed Mr.. Haydel to
design the Gould house he was asked by
his lawyer:
Q. Did you ask Mr.. Haydel to visit Kill
kenny Castle? A. Yes, and l agreed to
pay his expenses
Q. Did you agree to pay his expenses
on the Continent9 A. Nothing was said
about that part Of It.
Q. What was done at Kilkenny A.
He took measurements and Photographic
there and later showed them to Mrs Gould
and myself.
Q. Was the castle to be an exact copy
Of Kilkenny? A. No. it was only to be
like it in style.
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factory A. gave little personal attention
! to them. but ! often heard Mrs. Gould
object to them and never on any occasion
were they found to be completely salts
factory.
Q. Were there frequent meetings between
you and the plaintiff? A. Yes, and they
continued until Dec. 8, 4 or S. 1908. We
lived at the Waldorf for some time then,
and the interview referred to in the COM
plant was arranged by telephone.
This is the interview after which accord
ing to Mr.. Haydel Mrs. Howard Gould
ordered him out of the room, not in the
politest Of language and told him she would
have him put out by a bellboy. Mr. Gould
identified some plans used in that inter-
view and the direct examination was re-
sumed.
O. Was the plaintiff told the plans were
not satisfactory A. He was told 50 in
The discussion lasted from or 9 O'Clock
that evening until midnight. Finally, when
he was wrapping up the plans. Mrs. Gould
ggested that he make two copies indi-
eating the changes, one Tor us and one for
fessiona.
Q. Did Mrs Gould order him out OF the
room' A. She told him We we're through
for the evening and he might go.
Q. Did she ring for beboy or por-
ter? A. | really can't say.
Q. Did Mr.. Haydel say anything about
your getting another architect A. Yes.
He said light, get another architect, but
that first should have to settle with him.
He said he had letters from me ordering
him to go ahead with the plans.
Letters were then introduced showing
that Mr.. Gould had asked the architect to
call another evening, but he declined In a
letter beginning &, AS Mrs. Gould saw n.
going on to say that he would be glad to
make an appointment with them in his
office or anywhere else except In their
apartment
did give orders that the plans for cellar
and basement be completed.
q. Did you approve Of these plans7 A.
O. Has Castle Gould been constructed?
A. No; nor begun nsGaa y, e., OF the delay
draw the plans
Mr.. Hal del earlier In the day testified
that he made estimates and drew plans for
a grill gate and q power house that wers to
to pay only sloO,OoO He told of the many
alterations that Mrs, Gould demanded In
the plans submitted. She wanted, he said.
a tower pushed up here and an entrance
widened there.
II would then" he went on, rub out the
Everything was put up to Mrs. Gould.
She decided everything"
He also told of the trip he took TO Kill
kenny and thence to Paris He said he
char ged 5000 for drawing the plans for
the grill gates and 5000 for the plans for
the power house. He admitted that he
had never made any large drawings. but
only small sketches.
George A. Barney testified that he was
one OF the seven architects employed to
work on these plans and that for eight
months he worked on them exclusively.
W. j. Hardenburg. the architect who built
the Waldorf and other large structures.
testified that 1t was not customary for
architects to draw full plans until after
the sketch plans had been accepted. Other
expert testimony was called for both Mr..
Ha ydel and the Goulds
Mrs. Gould breathed q sigh OF relief
when Justice Keogh announced that the
session had closed for that day. To-day
it is expected she will be called upon to
testify.