The Birmingham age-herald., 1905-03-25
Gives Names of Persons from
 Whom She Borrowed
WALKS TO THE COURT HOUSE
Appears In Cheerful Hunor and Says She Has Some More Information to Give Out Next
 Thursday.

ruptcy court here today Mrs. Cassie L.. Chadwick detailed some of her financial transactions in the course of an examina- ton by Attorney Louis J. Grossman, act Ing for Trustee Nathan Loeser.
 Mrs. Chadwick said she was not able to give as many details of these trans actions as she would like to, because or the absence of papers which were held in a number of cities. She had sent for the papers and asked to have the hearing continued to next Thursday.
 Mrs. Chadwick testified that her total indebtedness would not exceed sioO,oVo. Of this sum, borrowed from various per- sons, she had received only S5i1OOO, leav- ing s26S 00o for commissions to the money lenders. She said she owed certain banks in Cleveland S2OO,O0O. The names of these institutions she was willing to give to MT. Loeser, trustee for the creditors, pri- vately.
 Walks to the Court.
 Mrs. Chadwick walked from the county iail to the bankruptcy court this after noon, a distance of about one block. Ihis is the first time Mrs. Chadwick has ap- peared outdoors except in carriage since her arrest She looked well ana appeared cheerful. She expressed her willingness to tell all that she could or her financial affairs. Some of the ques- tions that were put to her were not an- swered because she said she did not care to give a reply from memory.
 The examination disclosed additional assets of $2OOO0O. Of this amount SbsOOu is due from Charles H. Stewart of CleVe- land, and $150,000 worth of tewelry heio by Wolfers Brothers of Brussels, Belgium. Mrs Chadwick asserted that there are other assets, consisting of jeweiry and valuable articles. held by other persons for her.
 The examination was conducted in the tpresence of Mrs. Chadwick's four attor- neys. who at times interposed an objec- tion to the question of Mir. Grossman' and with whom Mrs. Chadwick frequently consulted before she replied to some or the attorneys questions. Mr. Grossman prefaced his questions with the statement that he believed Mrs Chadwick owed debts to the extent of $2.OO0. .0OO, and of that sum but $10O,OOO in assets had been located. He asked Mrs. Chadwick to assist the trustee for the creditors in locating all that could be found of her property. Mrs. Chadwick said she was willing to do this, but im- portant papers she had sent for would be in her possession next week. She said the papers were scattered around in can ton, In Pittsburg, in New ork and other places. She said the effect of the papers would be to show where hundreds Of thousands of dollars worth of property was, and would also make known what sums of money she had borrowed. She ha har dahfpdnpga would amount to $2,O00oOO, or any sum near 1t. She said the sum of s750,0o0. which she ad- mits she owes, would include the bonuses paid for the loans.
 Did Not Owe Him So Much.
 Relative to the suit of Herbert D. New ton of Brooklne, Mass, to recover S190, SOC loaned by him to Mrs. Chadwick, she was not indebted to MT. Newton for that amount.
 She said MT. Newton held her paper for that sum- but that she did not receive that much money from him.
 How much did he give you actually" Mir Grossman asked.
 Tt would represent SIS, 0O0,' replied Mrs. Chadwick. "I obtained S2S.000 in money and notes for the balance Two S15,000 notes were applied upon an old debt, and two $10000 notes were negotiated. l real ized 5000 on one and 5000 on the other. " Does the difference between SB000 and the S190, 800 represent the commssion? Yes"
 "Where are these notes?"
 "one Is in oberln-one for. ;1O,OcO and the other $10.OO0 note is in Europe"
 'Who has the note in Europe"
 ''G. R. Cutler, a Brussels broker"
 "Where are the two $15,000 notes?"
 "They are with banker. I would rather mt mention hfs name"
 Then you paid sl12s0O commission for the Newton loans?"
 Yes"
 Mrs. Chadwick said she did not care to state how much she owed James A. Friend of Pttsburg, but after several other questions had been asked and an- swered she said the actual sum she had received from MT. Friend was $750OO. For thls she said she gave him notes for s15O. 900. She said that MT. Friend had assist ed her in making her loans to the amount of s150,000. For this she gave jewelry as security. Of the loans for Si50,0O0 she said she received the entire sum- Mrs. Chadwick said s225.OoO is the total of her indebtedness in Pittsburg.
 Had JeweIry as Security.
 Mrs. Chadwick said that besides the jewelry held in Pittsburg, Henry Wurst of Eyria & Ludwig of New York had in their possession at one time JeWelry be- longing to her given as security for loans. she said she believed that MT. Nisson had sold rope of pearls valued at as high as sG0,000. given on a loan of si70O0.
 Mrs. Chadwick also gave her note to Mir. Nilsson for the loan, but the note had been twice renewed and MT. Nilsson fn- ally sold the rope of pearls. To the ques- ton by MT. Grossman If there was any jewelry in Europe. Mrs. Chadwick re- piled:
 There is some in the hands of Wofers Brothers of Brussels"
 What is that transaction?"
 That was jewelry 1 bought abroad and left with Wolfers Bros to set. 1t was not paid for. as it was purchased under con- tract to be paidl for if it suited. Wolfers Bros sent their bill and I paid s1O000 on it. The job was to take about 6 year. They are now suing me-
 What was the cost of this jewelry?'
 "I do not remember exactly. think 1t was between $150.000 and s200.000.'
 Any one else abroad who holds any of your jewelry?'
 "No sir"
 Amy other property. laces or furs?' 'I would rather tell you in private