The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1905-08-05
Moore Hearing was Con-
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ing. but used absolutely no threats
nor any other means to get him there
save the request that l wished t
speak with him."
Col. Argo here interrupted, an(
asked HIM when and where he frs
met Moore.
Mr.. Wattenberg replied that it wa.
on Saturday, July 18th, in the Insur.
ance Commissioners office, and beins
asked who was the recipient of the
initial information duplicating Moore
he said that it was first intimated tC
Mr. j. P. Pitman, detective for the
Seaboard Air Line Railway, and by
Mr.. Pitman to Commissioner Young
Mr.. Pitman told Mr.. Young that Moore
was good person from whom to Sc
cure information relative to the fire
but Pitman, he said, was not in the
least connected with the case, anC
was working for the railroad in run
ming down the gang of freight cal
robbers here.
Mr.. Wattenberg was not permitted
to proceed, and Insurance Commission
er Young was called. He said that he
saw Pitman and Moore together. Pit
man had been sent here by Balti-
more Detective Agency on a commits
sion from the Seaboard Air Line Rail-
way, because of the frequent theftS
from freight cars by persons supposed
to live and operate here. The hrSl
time ne saw Pitman the detective was
alone, and said that he knew where
the Commissioner could secure val
liable information concerning the lire.
From this conversation with Pltman
Mr.. Young sent for Detective Watten-
berg. No promise, he said, was made
to Moore. The original knowledge
or suspicion that Pitman held regard
ing Moore and the fire, was during
the last term of Wake Superior court,
when Frank Moore told Pitman, While
the negro Burch (now in jaiD was
on the witness, stand, to ask Burch
where he was on the night of the
fire.
There were vigorous tits between
counsel, the defense declaring that
Pitman was an essential, very vital
witness. and that the prisoner could
not possibly receive justice unless Pit
man was produced; and the proSecu-
ton contending that Pitman had
nothing to do with, and knew nothing
of the case, having been connected
with it in no way whatever.
Col. Argo said that he could furnish
evidence to prove that Pitman had
held out financial and other induce
ments TO Moore to persuade and in
fluence him to make statements about
the fire. He urged that the only way
10 get TO the bottom of the case was
to get Pitman, and he offered the
State sufficient time" to bring him
here. He said that the case would
end with Pitman. 1t was probable,
he said, that Pitman did not believe
Moore to be guilty, and made it to
his interest by extending a view of
g. reward to him, to tell all he knew OF
the crime.
Mr.. S. c. Ryan, for the State, said
Pitman could have offered no more
than was stated in the papers, and
that it must be proved that Moore was
influenced by consideration. P1tman,
he said, was an outsider, and could
have had no imaginable object IN
holding out a reward to Moore.
Col. Argo said that Pitnan was the
original informant of Commissioners
Young and Mr. Wattenberg, and that
the initial information given out by
Moore was to Pitman, and that IL he
were there, what he would testify
would exclude anything the State
could offer against Moore. He de-
clared that Moore was entitled to
discharge. He said that this had been
a singular case. Moore was incar-
cerated in Jail, where he remained sew
eral days without the opportunity of
a hearing, and his friends were de-
MED access to him, and his counsel
were refused permission to see him.
Justice Reid decided to continue
the hearing until 10 o'clock Wednes-
day morning, and he said no excuse
would be taken, and if the missing
man, Pitman, should not be here then,
the case would be heard regardless OF
him.
Before the trial was continued,
Commissioner Young said that he
told the father and brother of Moore
that his object in keeping people away
from Frank, was to prevent others
wanted from being warned or scared
off,
Mr.. Elmer Shaffer, of counsel Tor
Moore, said that it was three days be-
fore he could gain admittance to ms
client He went to see the sheriff the
first day, and was denied this privilege.
Next day he demanded to see Moore
as a right, being the prisoner attor-
ney, and the sheriff, he said, told
him that he (the sheriff) would con-
suit his lawyer, before permitting any
body to see Moore, and it was on the
third day that he finally succeeded IN
getting permission from the sheriff
to hold a consultation with his client.