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sentation in these hearings that the $zoo
month was paid.

sentation in these hearings that the $zoo
month was paid
Mr.. Rudd while In New York consulted al
most entirely with Mr.. Chicker1ng. VII,
Mr. Clunie as commissioner. He did not
think the man to whom the $3.50 month
was paid did anything for the Equitable
Society.
DO yon know how much of these moneys
was paid TO Gov Budd?'' asked the counsel
for the committee.
No Accounting of Disbursements.
Mr. McCurdy said he did not know. and
that to his knowledge no accounting of dis
bursements was made by Mr. Chiekering.
Mr McCurdy said he went to California,
| but did not meet the Mr.. Clunie to whom
the $3.50 was paid in all the six weeks ne
was there The New York Life and the
Mutual were also paying $3.50 month to
| the same man for the same service rem
dered the Equitable, said the witness.
Another demand which the witness said
Mr. Clunie the California insurance com
missioner, made was that complete set OF
the Equitable Society's books be kept at
the offices of the San Francisco agency,
which would have cost the society about
S75 eco He also said that under the law
OF California the commissioner could nave
collected his S33, 600 fee from the Equitable
Society upon making his proposed Naiua-
tionS of its policies.
The states generally do not make inde-
pendent examinations of the New York
companies. Mr. McCurdy said. Missouri
once demanded it. but at the request of the
society had accounted the New York valua-
ton. Minnesota made such a valuation
four or five years ago
Told Of 26 Years With Equitable.
Gage E. Tarbell, second vice president of
the Equitable Society, was called when
Mr.. McCurdy had finished. He told of his
connection with the Equitable, which has
continued twenty-six years. Mr.. Tarbell
said he knew nothing of the memoranda
given by Mr.. Jordan to A. c. Fields. He
did not know Fields, and knew only that
he looked after legislation in New York
for the Mutual. He had conferences with
representatives of other companies rela-
tive to legislative matters, and endeavored
in 1903 to have committee of one ap-
pointed to look after the interests Of policy
holders that wuld be affected by any bills
in the Legislature that would be inimical
He knew indirectly that Andrew Hamilton
had been employed. He was OF the opln-
ion that no company should have any ex-
pense in connection with legislative mat
ters.
He never knew of dollar being expend
ed In that way. He took the position that
If improper legislation could not be de-
feated by remedial means the company
should refuse to do business in the state:
Mr. Mccall of the New York Life agreed
with him, and the Mutual Life was ap-
preached to come to some agreement on
this subject but the Mutual would not
go into such a combination on the ground
that ii was not practical.
Senator Depew Recalled.
While Mr.. Tarbell was testifylng Senator
Chauncey NJ. Depew was recalled and
asked about vouchers of John A. Nichols
for $1,000 for legal services to the Equit-
able. Senator DeDew could throw no
light on the matter beyond the fact that
Nichols was retained by the Equitable
Nichols was at one time quarantine COM
missioner Senator Deoew said, and was
active in .olitics.
Senator Armstrong announced that a
subcommittee had been appointed to take
the deposition of George H. Squire. the
former financial manager of the Equitable
Society. The session was then adjourned
until Tuesday next.