The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1905-02-08
DEBATE ON THE
RATE MEASURE
Townsend Bill Said to Stop Far
Short of Perfection.
BOTH PARTIES SPLIT UP
SARCASTIC REToRT OF LAMAR.
OF FLORIDA.

.HI ASHINGTON, Feb. I'm accord
wv ance with the rules adopted yes
terday the house today. in COM
mittee of the whole, convened one hour
earlier than usual, the exclusive bust
ness for the day being debate upon the
bills regulating freight rates. Mr.. Rich
ardson Of Alabama continued his
spsech began yesterday. He discussed
the legal points involved. 1t was. he
said. in the federal courts that the rail-
loads get the protection The special
court proposed by the Townsend BILL
he characterized as a fifth wheel in the
judicial wagon, with no necessity for
a. except TO embarrass the movement
Tor equalizinS rates. Mr.. Richardson
Cenied that the Davey bill embodied
any of The provisions Of the sO-called
Heart bill
Little Good Expected.
Mr. Stevens of Iowa threw the brunt
OF the responsibility for the present
condition of affairs principally upon the
railroad directors who he said did NOT
seem to realize their relation TO the
public. but had only the one thought in
mind of d sufficient financial return for
the interests they represented The
traffic managers. he declared. were
obliged TO earn the utmost out OF their
properties in order TO hold their posi-
tones. Many OF these men, he said,
mad told him that neither the president
ror dir ctOrs of their roads had ever
directed them TO change a rate. he
would support the Townsend bill but
re anticipated it would not afford much
help to the shipper in its present form.
&, would, he said, operate more psychOl-
cSically than actually.
Wants the Special Court.
Mr.. Rainey of Illinois vigorously as
serted that it would not have hurt the
DaVey bill if the Democrats had in
Corporated in il every proposition of the
Hearst bill, because il represented the
present progressive and radical ten
dency of the Democratic party in the
United States" He supported the
Townsend bill because it was more in
/ harmony with the radical tendencies OF
/ the Democratic party, and opposed the
Davey bill because it did not provide
I for special court
Mr. Adamsou of Georgia took Issue
With the statement of Mr.. GrosvenOr
! yesterday and said all the world would
give the Democrats credit for forcing
! action. whether they claimed il or not.
II the Republicans did not complete the
legislation now he predicted that the
country would damn them for trifing
venting action
Demand is General.
Both parties want it," he said, the
president now wants it. The man who
I ought TO have bsen president for the
/ last eight years wants it. All who wish
/ 10 be president want il, and even the
I railroad presidents want II. and are
invading the capitol. White House and
public press to make known their anXi-
/ ety. He urged his colleagues not to
! stop at Speaker CannoR's adjuration to
/ PASS some kind" of a bill only, but TO
/ PASS the substitute of the minority.
{ Mr.. Shackleford Of Missouri said the
words OF President Roosevelt in his
/ message on the subject were bold ones,
! spoken i'm behalf of the people. but they
were bat Il federation of the senti-
ments OF Mr.. Bryan and Of the decId-
ration in three different platforms.
Democratic Doctrine.
/ Mr.. ShackIeGord then referred to the
/ recent remark of Mr.. Williams Of Mis-
] sisSppi the minority leader. that the
, Democrats would toe the mark with
: the president on this question Ii was
not, he said, with emphasis, d ques-
! non of mare hing shoulder to shoulder
! NTH the president so long as he is
/ tCe-marking the declarations of the last
three Democratic platforms. ii also
3 vas a question with the Democrats Of
( President Roosevelt shoulder TO Shout
/ Ger" with the great NebTaskan who has
] taken the lead in this great question
He urged his colleagues not TO lag
+ behind even the president" who had
asked for Il correction of all abuses.
And so" he added. I'VE are tOe-mark-
I ing the president when we are not in
Guiding or Incorporating within our bill
One-third of the remedies he has de-
manded."
First Voice in Opposition.
The first voice raised against the leg
islation was that of Mr.. Mccall of
/ MasSa ChuSetts. who maintained that il
was incompatible with the fundament-
al principles OF private property The
granting of authority TO the interstate
commerce commission TO fix rates, he
said was crossing the line between reg
ulation and Confiscatiou i'm manner
that outraged the most patent princi-
pies of justice. and he inquired if any
one could imagine 4 more ideal method
for the destruction OF private property
and one more likely 10 corrupt the
American people. The powers vested
by the bill he said. were too vast and
dangerous to be welded by any pOlit-
| zeal government. and were likely to
lead to the destruction of cities and to
government ownership of railroads
/ over the pathway of cOnfiscation- The
I very air ne Sdlu. NlDraLeu WIN the de-
mands of an aroused public appetite.
Sheer at the Courts.
But who imagines." he inquired,
that the supreme court of the United
States Will stand between the national
government and its victims. He de-
claTed Immediately afterward that I'M
fortunately there was disposition on
the part of the courts TO uphold the
policy of the party in power
Despairing that the railroads would
get the protection 10 which they were
entitled, Mr. Mccall said, that if the
lid of this Pandora's box should be re-
moved everything would escape from
il but hope. He declared il would be
| better TO let the struggles between the
cities and the railroads go on than TO
set up a little machine of a deity such
as the enlarged commission proposed
would be.
Further opposition to rate Iegislat ton
at this time came from Mr.. Sibley of
/ Pennsylvania. who called on his col
leagues TO pause and ponder before
| they acted.
Credit Claim For Bryan.
Mr.. Lamar of Florida charged that
/ Mr.. McCalrs views were those of the
| most complete reactionaries of the gov
eminent against regulating the rail-
| roads. Mr.. Lamar claimed for W. j.
Bryan and the Democratic party the
credit for first stirring the people To