Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11

NJ tha IN the pres,,
V q. 'ne STAKE IN which he I,,usasaliencY
TRate chen =" cos they We're filed In S'i Mi issi
MI PIT, Iayler-,Do you mean to co..
lpgttesiuent OF the stake IN wblchs say the
ApostieshI ISs''ea deposed him from iS' ,ss
Senator Smooth saw tbo.
the charges. '"ey brought
Mr.. Tayler-Preclsely
senator Smoot--Moses Th..
tried by the presidency OF tb "ot ser was
stake and High Council on cb oult Lake
We're preferred against b, m''ses that
lhere were charges preferrsS una Il
me- IL would be tried by the y against
MT Tayler-' Hold on a minute
senator Smoothly the nrost5
tle utah sake OF Zion ana Nv WY Of
Nouncll OF the Utah stake ~ 1e nigh
Mr.. Tayler-That would ZION
you unless the Apostles acted uepose
Senator Smoot--Yes Thor you'd IT,
tles would act on my case o,,5V apps.
| did not agree with that 'yo,,I L men II
u to the Presidency or tb o APPEAL
They could disfellowshlp mo- N"ureh,
Mr. Tayler-Who?
Senator Smoot-Why tho
Just the same as the memhorlspSsiuesi
a quorum; but they cannot tat,llp or
A,poslleshlp away from me unI Ione lhe
IN the proper order, and thai 80 Y Is
WhereVer there Is a charge II I gonn u
the presidency Of the stake SUES to
MI Tayler-But il It not tho A,o.,
W ,,I take away from you your SSp nos
Senator smoot-No sir.
Mr.. Tayler-Who does take 4, ,,...
SENATOR smoot-Why, the Anal mSe
uleht OF lhat would be passed upSn H.,
the Presidency OF the Church WV" ny
Mr. Tayler-But the local st,L. -.
Gals do not deprive you or deno". ofi-
of your ApostleshIp? '''e you
Senator Smooth the chsr.o.
proved then they give b,5sare
against me, and the Presldencv' e ~ en-
Church then pass upon that i,doorl, we lne
Mr.. Tayler--I understand. hpt I, '' 1It'
not depose you because the local c Nues
finds against your Nourt
senator smoot-Yes, but Il ls aIv..,,.
taken to the Presidency ways
tried? was
Senator smoot--Iie was, by the Hlgh
Council and presidency 40"
Mr., Tayler-Preclsely; and what han.
pened to him? "'p'
Senator Smoot-As / understand &,
the charges were sustained aRainat 49,
Mr., Tayler-What happened tborS
| Did he not conform literally IN tho g5 a..
mand OF the High Council? '''
Senator Smoot--I think he did
MT Tayler-'Dld he not make sbie,t
apologies? 'OJ'''
Senator smoot--l think he did.
Mr.. Tayler-And so far as the Ii,h
Council was concerned, was not tbst
the end Of &C? wat
Senator Smoot-That was the end ~
| Il, so far as. VI
Mr. Tayler-But, independent that
ana not the quorum OF Twelve deposS
| him? 'NPO''
Senator smoot---I think II was IN,
| Presidency Mr. Tayler.
Mr., Tayler--And the President after
that? '''''
Senator smoot-The Presidency 7
! think
Mr., Taylcr--You are sure that is ali
| right, are you2
Senator Smoot-That is as | under.
stand It,
Mr.. Tayler-All want is tho fact
| Senator Smoot-That is what
| | InnaW.
stand the rule,
| before the High Council was con.
cerned. was not that all done and ais.
posed Of by the apology and recanta.
tion Of Moses Thatcher?
Senator Smoothly. certainly.
Mr.. Tayler--Did he not comply with
the terms of their fnding2
Senator Smoot--That is just exactly
where II started and he compiled with
| their findings, and so far as the charge
was concerned In the High Council, that
was ended, we will say.
Mr. Tayler-Yes.
Senator Smoot-Now. as Tar as con.
Germs his being deposed as an Apostle.
the Apostles could disfellowship hin.
| suppose. the same as a Seventy c0dd
| be disfellowshipped from the Seven.
ties quorum; but that does not take
his Priesthood away from him.
Mr.. Tayler--We are not talking
| about the Priesthood, IL Il not fact
that IN April, 1896, Moses Thatcher was
| not upheld at the general conference
OF the people2 That Is to say the
President OF the Church or the quorum
OF Apostles did not present his name?
| Senator Smoot-The President OF the
Church did not present his name IN
April, 1896.
Mr., Tayler-so that he was not up.
| held?
Senator Smoot--He was not sus-
| tanned
| Mr.. Tayler--Then II he was not sus-
tanned he was not an Apostle was he?
! Senator Smoot-Well yes; he could
have been an Apostle and not be sus'
| tanned
Mr., Tayler--Very we'll Let US not
| take time about that,
| Senator Smoot--No
Mr., Tayler--Then Is IL not fact that
In November following, at a council OF
the Apostles, held In Salt Lake CITY,
Moses Thatcher was dropped from tho
council Of Twelve Apostles2
Senator Smoot--l think the Presl-
dency OF the Church may have had inc
Twelve Apostles as advisers AT that
| meeting, and he may have been De-
posed at that meeting,
Mr.. Tayler--Do you question this
statement which | find I'm Andrew Jen'
sons Church Chronology?
Senator SmootI say my UNDER
standing Of the mode OF handling an
Apostle is different from that
Mr., Tayler-And then, that IN Az
| gust 1897, after a long Investigation
before the High Council Of Salt Lake
stake of Zion, Moses Thatcher SUP,
| United to the decision Of the councu
and thus retained his standing IN th'
| Church,
Senator Smoot-That would be after
the President had passed upon y anl
he submitted there, and he would hold
| his standing In the Church.
Mr.. Taylcr--Do you not understand
now, Senator, that long before his hesd
ny an Apostle had dropped INTO tne
basket and he was done for as wv
| Apostle? ,..
Senator Smoot--Not by the Apostles
but by the Presidency OF the Churvh
Mr., Tayler-Then this is not AZ al
| correct that / have read TO you as o.
curing on the 18th OF November lssO
| that he was, at a meeting OF me cou,',
| ell OF the Apostles, dropped from wv
council OF the Twelve?
Senator Smoot--That may be H. pu'
do not so understand IT,
MIR. Tayler--You do not so uilu''
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