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Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
A DISCUSSION.
Blood Atonement and the orieia
CfPlura' Marriage"

\ pamphlet containing over hun
drcd RACES. has just been issued Tns
brochure contains q discussion on the
questions quoted, between Elder Joseph
+. smith, Jr, and Mr.. Richard G.
Evans. the latter gentleman being Soc
ond counselor 10 the president OF the
'Reorganltes." The questions are en-
tered INTO exclusively by both sides,
and a great deal Of valuable informa.
ton * given. Elder Joseph Il. smith,
Jr,, shows by historical data and in
controvertIble deductions that the POSI-
ton Of his opponent Is untenable.
Pos, paid To any address, 20c
DESERET NEWS BOOK STORE,
{ Main street
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
SNYDER RESUMES BUSINESS.
Old bingham Property WIN he Developed
nnrlng the Winter.

Work on the Snyder group at Bng-
ham was resumed YESTERDAY This Is
one Of the big groups OF the camp, con-
sistng of IA claims which have been
well developed, work having been pros
ecuted at periods during the first few
years. The showing OF ore IN the mine
Is said TO be fine and 1t Is the hope
OF the management to open up the
vein for which they have been drifting
for some time Work viii be pushed
during the remainder Of this winter.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
INCREASES CAPITAL.
Kelth'kearns Company Votes to Double
Its Capital stock,

At meeting held IN the office Of ex-
Senator Kearns yesterday afternoon, 10
was decided 10 Increase the capital
stock Of the Keith Keams Mining
company to $780, 900 shares
This action was taken for the purpose
Of acquiring new territory Forty thou
sand shares Of the increase Of lj0 600
shares win be used for this purpose
and the remainder for development
work
The mine is said 10 be In a splendid
condition, and is maintaining am out
put of about 30 tons per day,
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
ALTERATION SALE.

Hand bags, one.third on. purses,
one-thlrd of; music rolls. 10 of. pie.
lures, 10 20 IS of framing. one-third
of. novelties. one-quarter Of station
cry 10 of childrens books, one-half
OF, baskets, oue-thlrd off,
HELD ENGRAVING CO..
so Main
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
GERMAN BATTLESlIIPs.
Those to he Built TO Have Dis
nlacemsnt Enmnl To- ANY.

Berlin Nov At Is semi.ofnclally an.
nounced that The remainder Of the battle
ships TO De built under the naval program
VIII have q displacement equal 20 the dis
placement NJ tho largo bottlcships ~ the
other naval gOWsrs
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
LIVE STOCK.


Chicago Nov 2--Csttle- Receipts, IL
0OO; market best strong, others steady,
Beeves &6)dG.81; stOckors and fesdcTs 210
a42j: cows and heifcrs. .25di .40 Texas
fed steers, g. iOd4 80; western steers, 325a
AS.
cents higher Mixed and butchers. iS0n
525: good to choice heavy. 5.0u6 O.;
rough heavy. Ai5di. -; lights, i.@u5 %;
pigs i.G0N6. 10; bulk Of sales, 4,Sq5l5
sheep Receipts 5000 market strong
Sheep. 4,&qj.I5. lambs, i,I5gl.SO.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
Ore and Bullion.

Mccormick & Company reported the
following ore and bullion settlements
yesterday, silver. copper, lead and
gold ores. SAL, 300; base bullion S6i,SOo,
gold bars, $4,000, total $ll4 700
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
NEW YORK PRODUCE.

New York Nov 9-Sugar raw, quiet.
Fair refining 20. Centrifugal 90 test $40:
molnsses sugar, %s.
Renned-Quct. Crushed, $50. powdered.
10, graduated, 80.
Coffee-Qulet No. Rio, r4dsd.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
Eomura Going TO pekln.

Toxic Nov At rs reported that
Baron komutl, the foreign minister. me-
companied by II " Dguison the foreign
adviser ~ thn Japanese government. viii
90 Go Pckin as special envoy of Japan
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
REGULAR CALL SALES.

Daly-Judge- at G.G5, 50 at $40.
May Day--5,hC1 at 9it 5000 at 9H,
seller SO, 1900 at 9ia; 1000 at sas seller
81
Sacramento-l5 500 al 2.
Beck Tunnsl--jO0 at 1875
New Nork-5,700 at llh; 1000 at l4}s;
500 al 49,
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
WOOL.


81 Lous Nov. Wool steady Ter.
ritory ana western mediums, 26d3) lno
medium. 22a2G fine, l0a2l.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02

New York Nov AN grades Of re-
fined sugar Were reduced 10 cents a hun
bred pounds today.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
HARD ROCK IN ST. JOE.
Closing OF Vein Encountered, and work
II Moving slowly

Manager Hasbruck Of the st, Joe OF
Bingham reports some very hard rock
IN the mine, where work is now being
prosecuted The miners are passing
through the wall Of the vein, and think
that within the next few feet to break
into the ore. The rock Is SO hard that
II Is costing S2j per foot 10 break.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
Nevada stocks.

James A. Pollock & Co.. brokers, re.
ported the following quotations from
San Francisco today:
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
LOCAL MARKETS.

IN today's local markets the latest
arrival Is a carload of Wisconsin cram
berries, which are very acceptable as
the market Is about bare. The stock Is
good and Is already selling well. even
az higher prices as the wholesale price
has gone up from Sll to Sll5O to $3.50
per barrel \ barrel holds llj pounds.
\ car OF sweet potatoes was received
last nigh, from new district which
Is furnishing goods a little better than
the ordinary run. a car OF bananas has
also been received, but prices are likely
20 semain sun, Apples are arriving IN
good condition, but are commanding
high prices. Gr1res are holding their
own at $40 TO 5000
CabOages continue scarce and high.
as growers have been holding them
back IRON market to secure better
prices, and are now asking 2ia cents,
where a year ago at this time they
were selling al 80 cents per cWt New
hlacA figs are in the market from Cal.
itoruia. \ good deal OF poultry is ar
rtying and prices are tending lower IN
wholesale. Ducks are being received In
large lots, but are readily picked up, SO
tnere is no surplussage, Potatoes are
mp ~ TO Is cents per cEt, ana will re-
main sim on account OF a shortage
caused partly by freezing Eggs are
sitter In price by the case.
The Wholesale market prices do not
appear in the schedule Of prices printed
below as both iobbers ana retailers re-
quest that the custom be- discontinued
on the ground that the publication Is
the cause Of MISUNDERSTANDING among
consumers who, I'm many cases, get the
idea chat they ought to pay wholesale
prices IN retail purchases. And then,
the wholesalers object 20 having the
prices they sell M made public. The
prices obtaining In the local retail mar
kets today are as follows:
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02

kansas city, Nov. 2-CatNc Receipts,
1900: market steady 10 suUrg Naive
steers 3.1JaB CO.. native COWS and hclters,
! 1jU4 IS, stockors ana feeders, 2.iodAh %;
bulls gNH3 U0. calvr~ . "'j ,i' Cato %
steers, 2.Sgda 20 western cows, 2.NpS q.
Hogs Receipts. 1900; market strong to
3 cents higher Bulk " sales, hSdi 70,
heavy Ig5d5O2ia hackers, A@d5.0; Digs
and lights f.15Hi.g2is.
Shecp-Receints. 1900; market strong.
Muttons 4jO1'600, lambs. 5.J0Q -; range
wcthers, $4,000. fed ewes, 3,gO05.OO.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-11-02
A. S. CAMPBELL.
stock Broker, 40 H. n. walker BLOCK
j. oBERNDoRFER

Stock Broker,
Tel. Bell 792. l6i S. Main St
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09
NEW BILLIARD AND POOL HALL
Will Open IN the Mcfarland Building
All New fixtures!

F.. Lewis Of Oklahoma City /,
preparing to open billiard and
pool hall in the Mcfarland building
near Second and chickasha. The
bnilding has been thoroughly htted
up for tie propose, making ali ele-
giant room and Mr Lewis will put
in new and up.to date tables aud
other fixtures.
Mr. Lewis comes higly recon-
mended AZ splendid gentleman.
He will conduct a strictly first class
house He desires to secure
oung man, II or rs years Of age
% assist him, one who lives at
rhickashapreferred He will open
in about two days.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09
HUNTING N THE BIG PASTURE
Man With the Gun and Dogs IS Bus,
With Sport.

Lawton, Okla., Nov. 8. - A
this seasn Of tie year the big Kio
a-Comancbe Indian pasture re-
serve in the southern part on Com
anche comfy is the leading hunting
section Of the entire southwest.
The half million acres Of this re-
serve are now practically vacated
by the cattlemen and miles on top
Of miles spread out into a grand
panorama Of unobstrucied nature
Fences are few, cattle are scattering
and game is plentiful
Practical and professional hunts
men say that at no season since
the opening Of the new country
have there been so many migrating
ducks For four weeks they have
been passing southwark in large
droves and hundreds Of them have
been killed The exodus Of hun
ters from Lawton and the towns of
this section Of the coutry has been
noteworthy proceeding Of the
autumn. Every ac-e Of the big le-
serve has been trodden by the man
with the gun and and game by the
wagon loads has been the bountiful
return.
But there is other sport in the
pasture The wolf chasing season
IS on, the grey hounds, fox hounds,
blood hounds and mix d hounds are
are in the training schools around
The borders. A contest is on; it's
battle in which dog owners seek
-enown for their dogs, and days al
iet apart for the big chases AT
Geronimo, Walter, Temple, Cache,
.ndianhoma, Frederick, Davidson, Il
Saxon and Chattanooga prepara-
ions being made for the big
utumn SHORTS and the month of
November will be notable for bag
ing Of coyotes. AT Chattanooga
'eople are perhaps the most ener-
etic and will pull off the biggest
vent of the season November II.
ohm Alternately will lead in the
hase and" Carry Nation" the lit
Ie dog which outdid all.previous re
ords last year, will agaiu enter the
rena for honors.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

ties we have for sale or rent in
Chickasha:
FOR SALE
One quarter block, small house and
barn $IIso
Four lots, good four room house,
small barn, monthly payments,
close in $1,000
Fine two story house, modern,
good location $4,000
One quarter block, four room house
on hill, snap $1,000
One quarter block, on hill, eight
room house F., $1,000
Lot r57 by $50 feet six room
house $1,000
One lot, small house and barn
Close in $500
One lot, 100 by r65 tt. four room
house, small barn $500
Good hve room house, good loca-
tion $3.50
Two lots, five room house good
location $rIoo
Two lots, five room house, good
location . .. $1,000
Small house and barn, lot rs by
los ft. good location $3.50
Lot 5oby I65 #. small house and
barn .. $500
Two lots three room house $500
Five room house lotI75 by los feet
Good location $1,000
Two lots, IFS BY r65, small house
and barn good location. $1,000
-Four room house, close in. good
cornor 1850
For RENT
One four room house, we'll located
OH West Hill
One four room house on South
Hill.
One three room house on West
Hill.
If you have property to rent, or
wish to buy on sell, call at our
office, room two or three, Schluter
Building Telephone 3s7. Coop
< Co. 6s.6z |
The Ra.hbone Sisters will meet |
at |. 90. F. hall Friday afternoon
at 3 o'clock. This will be the last
meeting before the o-der is instit
ited and It is desired that all pro-
'pective members be present. !
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09
WARNING nRnER
In the United States Court in
Indian Territory Southern district:
Ada Conner, plaintiff,


Ada Conner, plaintiff,
vs.,
John Conner, defendant.
The defendant, John Conner, is
warned to appear in this court in
thirty days and answer the COM
plant Of the plaintig, Ada Conner,
for divorce.
Witness the Hon J. T. Dicker-
erson, judge Of said court and the
seal thereof, this 18th day of
October, 1905
[sEAL C.M. Campbell, Clerk
by J.W Speake Deputy.
Frank Bailey, attorney fot plain
tiff.
Attorney for nonresident de-
fendant, Lawrence Mills.
Published first, Oct. is, 1905.
1872
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Mrs. Richard Osborne arrived
yesterday afternoon from Gallalin
Mo. for visit with relatives and
friends.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

The Union new and 2nhand
Store pays cash for all kinds Of
household good. -I22 Chickasha
Ave II.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Little Giant School Shoes, solid
wear, fine workmanship Try a
pair for the children. -Jackman &
Lemon. 64,6o
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

DrcssmakiHg wanted. 500 Chick
asha Ave. If
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Rev. ]. Fl. Bennett is mixing
with the Methodist at the Lawton
conference TODAY.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

supt. Mccell went out on the
line this morning in his special
car attached to a train OF flat cars
that will carry cotton. Flat cars
are being used to relieve the
"stringency' in the box car sup
ply and move the crops.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Notice is hereby given that /
will prosecute anyone caught hunt
ing on the Burey ranch regardless
Of who the party may be- Frank
Rosenquest. If
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Joe Charleville returned today
from Sulphur where he was called
by the illness Of his mother. The
latter is better.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

All kinds Of scavenger work done
on snort notice. Leave your order
al ksmp's furniture store. II
Il Rrafriyhf
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Rev. T H. Southall, Of Tecum-
sch, has contracted with the
Western Baptist to travel in the
interest Of the paper. He will
move here with his family in a
few weeks.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Good board with pleasant rooms
at I2S Iowa Ave. If.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Wanted;-Iooo shares Of the
stock ofthe First National Mining
Co addressThe Missouri Land Co.
FL, Paso Texas. If
Rev. Horace Bennett made
trip TO RYAN and NARROW this
week. He has been called to the
pastorate Of the Baptist church at
both places but has not decided
which he will accept.
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

WANTED Position as book
keeper BY a graduate Of Roberts
Business College. Also have some
knowledge Of shorthand and type
writing. L. ?. SALE, City.
If
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Full line Of jackets At Jackman
& Lemons 64-60
The Chickasha daily express. (Chickasha, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1899-current, 1905-11-09

Below are few of the proper
ties we have for sale or rent in
Chickasha:
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17
Mosaic Law Not Binding

That The law Of Moses, under which
thousands of Hebrew persons have been
married is not binding in America was
decided yesterday in the Essex Market
Court, in New York, when Mrs. Peppl
Schlosser had he: husband, Samuel
Schlosser, arraigned before Magistrate
Barlow on charge Of desertion.
A point to this effect was raised Mon
day by Hyman Rosenschein, lawyer,
when he appeared in similar case, but
the decision was against him, and the
lawyer served the magistrate with notice
of an appeal. :, d,
When the Schlosser case was called
Yesterday Leon Koripsky, representing
the Austrian Consul, appeared and,
quoting from several books he had with
him. explained fully the relation Of the
Hebrew law to marriages in Austria and
some other countries. The marriage OF
couple by a rabbi, he said, did not
hold unless civil ceremony was alter
ward performed. Eighty per cent. oil
the Hebrew people, he said, had been
married under the la@ of Moses, but
the ceremony performed only by rabbi
was not binding. The statute of Moses,
he declared, had been outlawed centuries
ago. D.,
Mrs. Schlosser said she was married
six years ago in Limburg, Austria, by
ber uncle, a rabbi. Her husband de-
serted her two years ago in Manchester.
England. She came to this country in
the early part of last month, and three
days ago she found her husband on
Ridge street and had him arrested.
Lawyer Rosencheiu, with MIR. Korip-
sky, appeared for the defendant and
Magistrate Barlow, after hearing argu-
nent dismissed the complaint.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17
STRIKE NEARING END.

Although n facts have as yet trans
pired to fully warrant the prediction, II
is asserted both by members Of the En-
ployers' Association aud by the conser-
vatiye element in the ranks of the team
s.ers that the present strike in Chicago
will be called off probably within "A
hours, and certainly by the end OF the
week.
Chief among the causes which lead to
the prediction of settlement are the
firm stand taken yesterday afternoon by
Mayor Dunno, when, in conference with
President Shea and officials Of the local
Feamsters' Union, he assured them that
any further spread OF the strike would
certainly make it necessary for him to
call for troops, and the arrival OF Presi-
dent Samuel Gompers, of the American
Federation of Labor, who reached the
city yesterday evening.
Although not possessed of executive
power in the settlement of the strike,
President tiompers declared that he had
every hope that its end was not far dis
| tant.
at was my intention TO come to Chi
cago anyway at the end of this week,
said Mr.. Gompers, "but alter holding a
conversation over the telephone with
Mr.. Shea yesterday / decided to come at
once. certainly shall do all in my
power to end the strike, and ] have
great hopes OF success"
Early last night, Immediately after
leaving his train, President Gompers went
into conference with President Shea and
local officials of the Teamster's Union.
This conference lasted until late hour.
The strike of schoolchildren assumed
larger proportions yesterday, when |, 900
pupils of the Graham School refused to
enter the building. According to school
officials, no 'unfair" coal has been de-
livered at the Graham School. The
authorities declared hat there was no
apparent reason for the strike.
Pupils of the FalIon public school
also went on "strike" yesterday when
two loads of coal from the Peabody Coal
Company we're delivered at the building.
The pupils stood al distance from the
nonunion teamsters and jeered at them.
Several policemen were sent to the school
to maintain order.
At meeting of the board of education
held yesterday evening, warrants were
sworn out for eigh! boys who have been
leaders in the strikes at the schools IN
sympathy with the strike of the teams
ters. The threa: Of arrest of parents
whose children did no; attend school, had
the effect of settling three Of the strikes
of Yesterday, and a normal attendance
Of pupils is expected today.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17
KILLED His GOdmother.

Walking up to Patrolman DScey on
the street at Detroit, at noon yesterday,
Frank Lesner, aged 26, native ol
Trenton, told him that he had murdered
his godmother, Mrs. Michael Hammer
nick, in her home, at Trenton Monday
night and inquired the way to the sta
tion, where he could take a train back
to his work in the Asylum for Criminal
Insane at Iona. Lesner, who is evl-
IDENTIFY mentally irresponsible, told tht
officer that Mrs. Hammernick had be.
witched him and his whole family, and
for that reason he had come from Ions
for the express purpose of killing her
Mrs. Hammernick was found dead II
her bed by her husband Monday evening
when he returned TO their home, ii
Trenton, from neighbor's. There were
five bullet wounds in her body and he
head was crushed by blow from
chair,
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17
How 10 Ward on Old Age

The most successful way of warding of
the approach Of old age is to maintain
vigorous digestion. This can be done by
eating only food suited to your age and
occupation, and when any disorder of the
stomach appears takea dose of Chamber
lain's Stomach and Liver Tablets to cor
rect it. II you have weak stomach OF
are troubled with indigestion, you will
find these Tablets to be just what yoa
need. For sale by Gibson and Timber
man aud w. f. Creighton & Co.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17
StrictIy Genuine.

Most of the patent medicine testimonials
are probably genuine. The following recent
ly appeared in the Aitcheson lKau.) Globe:
doe Tack. a well-known engineer. running
on the Missouri Pacific between Wichita and
Kiowa, lately appeared la a big one, with a
picture, and when he was in this Office today
we asked him about il. He says he had ter
rife pains in his stomsch, and thought he
mad cancer His druggist recommended
Kodol and he says it cured him. He recon-,
mended it to others who were also cured .
Kodol Dyspepsia Cure digests what yon eat
aud cures all stomach troubles. Sold by W.
f. Creighton. 4Ol King street, and corner
Queen and Patrick streets.
Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1905-05-17

walls OF business and by neglect OF Symp-
toms which have been warning him a
year past, that his stomach was falling
In its duties"
The symptoms OF disordered stomach
are, among others, variable appetite, sour
risings, heartburn, undue fullness after
eating. dull headache, dingy complexion,
discOlOred eye, fluctuations In physical
strength nervousness, sleeplessnesS de-
pondency. No person will have all these
symptoms at once.
The restoration Of the stomach to sound
health, begins with the first dose of DR..
Pierce's c den Medical Discovery. The
cure prog sses until the functions Of the
stomach are in healthy operation. Then
the nerves are quiet and strong, the ap-
petite healthful, the sleep restful, the eye
bright, the complexion clear.
~Please accept my thanks for the benefit
which my child received from your medi-
cine" writes Mrs. W. A. Morgan. Of Silica.
Mo ale had been troubled for nearly a
year with liver complaint, indigestion and
constipation. | gave him your Golden
Medical Discovery and Pleasant Pellets,
and they did him great good. | gave him
the Discovery about eight months. and
several vials OF the Pellets lie seems TO
be perfectly well now"
If you want cure accept no substitute
for "Golden Medical Discovery"
D.. These ORIGINAL Little Liver
%gNevSSs pills, first put up by old DIR.
XeWeS~ r. " Pierce over 80 years ago.
have been much initiated but
never equaed. They're made OF purely veg
etable, concentrated and refined medicinal
principles. extracted from native American
roots end plants They speedily relieve and
cure foul. torpid and deranged Stomachs,
Iiyers and Bowels and their attendant dis
tressful ailments. One or two q laxative.
three or four cathartic.