The Barre daily times. (Barre, Vt.) 1897-1959, 1905-03-28
Council So Votes, Four to
Three
AFTER HEATED DISCUSSION
Mayor Compares Montpelier With Barre
Asks if We Are to Be Dictated
to by the Firemen Of Barre
Makes Declaration.

BIZ vote Of four to three the city
council last evening declared that it
was the sense Of that body that it was
to the best interests of the fire depart
ment that the chief be one Of the per-
manent members Of the department.
This vote was taken only after a long
and heated discussion Of the question by
the aldermen.
The meeting was called especially for
the consideration Of this matter, but
not until considerable other business had
been transacted was the recommenda-
tions Of the fire committee taken from
the table. These were "We also recon-
mend permanent fire chief, which in
our opinion would be more satisfactory
to the city as well as the fire depart
ment After a wrangle over whether
the discussion Of the article should be
public or in executive session, which
was settled for open session, Alderman
Mckenzie set the ball a-rolling by stat
ing he did not write the report and
therefore wanted TO ask what was meant
BY permanent Chief was he TO be in
the station or out Alderman Milne
stated it meant one Of the FIVE paid
men in the station.
Alderman Albisetti declared that in
case of still alarm only two men would
then be available at a fire. He believed
the first assistant should be in the FIRE
station and the chief outside MIR. Al
bisetti told how Campbell took Gladding
To Providence and paid his expenses
and how when he went To Boston on
business he (Campbell) paid his own
expenses. He thought Campbell d good
man in the department
Mckenzie asked what special argu
ment the other members OF the fire
committee had for permanent chief.
Adie replied that the fire department
had cost good DEAL and some think
it is costing little too much His rea-
sons for chief in the station were that
in case Of still or general alarm the
chief is there to 60 out with the appar
atus; il he is outside some subordinate
nuat take change when the department
goes out. His idea was to run the
department just as economically as it
can be and yet have an efficient depart
ment. sWe'ye got a good station and
good department and believe it would
he more efficient with the fire chief in
the station
Mckenzie declared all the experience
Adie ever had with fire matters was in
the last ten days. Presuming Gladding
was going to be chief, what experience
has he had as compared with that of
Campbellg 2 No city IN the United States
has a fire chief in the station, and he
cited New York, Boston and several 9TH
er cities. He declared it had never been
done anywhere. If the captain goes
there he looks after fires. He said
he thought it q wiser policy to have
the fire chief outside the station.
Milne asked If the fire chief was out
side of the station and a still alarm
was sent in where would the fire chief
be to direetg
Adie said as to his own experience,
he had been a fireman himself. He said
Mckenzie had declared Gladding hadn't
/ experience. Here Mckenzie jumped TO
his feet to deny he had said any such
thing and for a few minutes both tried
TO talk at the same time. The Mayor
/ raped for order and finally Adie was
allowed to proceed. Adie continued
that Mckenzie had declared Gladding
! had the experience Of Campbell Adie
declared that C.ladding had had as much
/ experience as Mr. Campbell. II the chief
/ is in the station he is there when want
ed.
Burke asked Adie ii he thought two
men were enough to do the work.
Adie; With five men in the station
they are capable Of doing the work
Mckenzie: Didn't Adie say in COM
/ 1...t4 = <,kS ~,
Campbell because he was saloon keep
er?
Adie: ] am satisfied with Campbell
if he will 90 into the station and take
the position.
Milne; If Campbell win apply for
position I'll vote for him.
Mckenzie, Milne and Adie then all
tried 10 talk at once on the connection
Of Campbell with the fire department
The mayor raped for order and Alder
man Sowden raised the point Of order
that the council was discussing men
rather than the measure before them.
He thought the aldermen from wards 4
and out Of order in bringing any
names into the discussion.
| Adie moved that it was the sense Of
this board that it was to the best in
terests of the fire deparement that the
chief be one Of the permanent members
Of the fire apartment
This started the discussion afresh.
Mckenzie argued against ii. Burke
thought it would be more economical
with five men paid s65 monthly and
a chief outside at little or no expense,
which would be practically SIX men,
Adie wanted to know where the call
| firemen were to be all this time. When
an alarm Is rung in are they asleep all
| the timer
/ Mckenzie said the present chief had
been at every fire since the new depart
ment opened.
| Sowden said there was no question
Of the good work the present chief had