The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1905-11-17

/ as an officer of the company knew
of it and did not oppose 1t, but I did
not originate 1t and l did not direct
IT,"
"You say he suggested it--you are
referring to whom?"
"Mr. Hartman"
What was the amount of 0dells
claim that was paid?"
"Seventy-five thousand dollars" .
Did you understand what portion
that was of the entire claim?''
mo sir"
Approximately?
THE bonds were retained ard l
think they subsequently acquired some
value in the market or had some val
ne; don't remember the details"
TT was $4,000 over and above the
bonds that we're written7"
Il think the bonds were re-organ-
lied"
Il want you to state what Mr. .Harri-
man said as definitely as you can"
"He said there was a possibility of
that powerful influence at Albany be-
ing antagonistic on accoun. Of this
matter, doing harm to
one of the valuable assets of the Equit-
able, which was the Mercantile Trust"
Did he say anything definite as to
the repeal of the charter"
"Yes sir, he mentioned that as a
by iegislation?"
"Yes sir; and 1t was also rumored
in the newspapers"
I'm that connection or otherwise
was anything said to you about OBJ
tanning an appointment as ambassa-
dor to some foreign country?"
mo SIR"
Was any such thing suggested to
you by any director of the Equita-
ble?"
That was first suggested to me by
Mr.. Frick about a year and a half
ago, SIR
What did he say on the subject?"
He suggested it; l never solicited
1t or sought 1t. Naturally l would
have been pleased if l had got it.
Did any Of the other directors of
the Equitable say anything to you
about it,"
Later, considerably later. / think
their reason for taking this extraor-
dinary interest in my absence from
this country have become very OBJ
vious since them" Uaughter).
What do you mean by that?"
Il think they thought they could ac-
quit themselves of their friendly duty
Of stewardship with great profit to
themselves"
ITO whom do you REFER
ITO the person who suggested it."
who was he?"
Mr. Frick."
Anybody else?"
Il think Mr.. Hartman would not
have looked on il with great regret"
who else?"
Il say that seriously, although il
seems to provoke a great deal Of
mirth."
Did you have any talk with Mr.
Schiff about that?"
Last fall"
What was that?"
Il simply solicited his support, but
want it distinctly understood that
ne had nothing to do with the incep-
ion of the idea to my knowledge"
Did he support it later?'
He said he would try to use his
friendly Offices"
Did you Nave an interview with Mr..
Hartman as to the appointment OF
he Frick committee in regard to the
WORK Of that committee or it's re-
)ort?"
He led me believe, through a NUT
nal friend. that the reports of that
committee would be very friendly to
ne and did everything he could to
lissuade me from selling my stock, at
he same time doing everything on
hat committee to knife me and de-
troy the value Of that stock"
Those are very serious statements,
Mr.. Hyde
Yes, and have spent many sleep
ess nights rejecting upon them and
ong days"
10 you make tnlB statement as q
natter oil reflection and conclusion?"
Yes SIR"
,'Or do you base that upon any act
lal interview with Mr.. Hartman or
tatements madeg"
Upon both"
What in the way of actual state
nents do you base that on?"
Statements made to my counsel by
wo members Of that committee"
In your presence?"
mo SIR"
The chairman-'Mr. Hughes, you
meant to say Mr.. Frick;' / suppose.
You said Mr. Hartman
The witness-"I refer to both OF
hose gentlemen"
Mr.. Hughes-"I think the witness
'aid Mr.. Hartman"
The witness-"I mean both those
gentlemen"
81 did Mr.. Hartman ever make any