Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1905-02-10
Interstate Commerce Com
mission to Make Them
SO SAYS THE HOUSE
The Passage OF the ESch-TOwnSend
Bill-The Vote Showed n Disar-
ransement OF Party Liues-Will-
Jams Compliments Republicans.

Washington. Feb. 9.-After nearly
four days of discussion the house to-
day by vote of 326 10 Il passed the
Esch Townsend bill providing for the
regulation of freight rates. The nega-
tive vote was made up OS eleven repuh-
hcans and six democrats The CLOSING
hours of the debate We're occupied BY
Mr.. Williams of Mississippi. the min
ority leader, and Mr.. Hepburn OF Iowa
chairman Of the committee which re-
ported the bill. Mr. Williams. while
supporting the minority measure. even
though. he said he knew il could nos
pass. complimented the republicans FOR
bringing in a bill which was much bet
ter than he expected would come from
them. The speech of Mr.. Hepburn was
rather in defense OF himself. He said
his deeds and acts were a sufficient an
swer to the lies and ISLANDERS which
have been heaped upon him The
Hepburn bill. he said. had been pre-
pared by the attorney general and he
yielded to his colleagues on the Eseh-
Townsend bill because he did not want
sensational head lines TO appear.
Addressing himself to the rcpubIl-
cans Mr.. Williams said they needed
nothing more than the marking out of
the pathway to follow the president.
not because he is president. or re-
publican, but because he was outlin-
ing the proper policy for the American
people.
"Oh." he said. amid democratic
laughter. Il know how nom partisan
you are" Mr.. Williams said II might
be true in something's. as Grosvenor
stated yesterday, that the democrats
''camped tonight where we camped last
night" but he loudly proclaimed. fac
ing the republican side, that on this
quotation. 1T is you who are camping
this year where democracy camped
last year If. he said. majority in
the house did not follow the presidents
recommendation il proved the neces-
sity for an automatic coupler between
the White house and the house OF rep
resentatives. a republican Daniel =
calling you he exclaimed. and he Is
at the other end of the avenue and he
is calling you to do identically the
same things that YOU refused 10 do be-
cause it came out OF a democratic Ma
zareth.'
Discussing the merits OF the bin. Mr..
Williams said the country had waited
and waited for the railroads themselves
to do justice. He agreed IN part with
Mr.. Mccall of Massachusetts. who had
said the right to fix rates was a dan
gerous power to confer on several men.
but he argued that IL was a choice be
tween two evils, as only about seven
great railroad magnates were acting
in connection with one another. direct
ing the stream of American commerce
In the channels they wished and dis
eliminating wherever they saw ut II
the fixing of rates was 10 be lodged IN
some hands. Mr.. Williams said he pre-
ferred it to be a government tribunal
weak and ineffective as such tribun-
ais are
Declaring that he spoke as a conser-
vative as he was not a radical. Mr. VIII
liams said the time may come when all
tie country except the south would he
advocating the government ownership
of railroads The south would never
support that proposition because they
had an old fashioned idea that the gov
ernment should not become too strong
" centralized. They were further op-
posed To government ownership be-
cause they knew the government wouid
not operate coaches for whites and
blacks.
Mr.. Hepburn OF Iowa, chairman -
the committee on interstate ana for
eign commerce, closed for the repub-
licans. He explained the difficulties 81
preparing such a measure as the bill
reported. saying lnAl no Two men r.--
tertained the same opinion either as
to what was in the bill or as 10 what
ought to be in it.
The bill of the minority was defeat
ed. Gaines of Tennessee. Rider and
Scudder of New York and LivernaSh
and Wynn of California. voting with
the republicans. The roll was then
called on the Esch Townsend bill.
which was passed by a vote OF 3es %
II.
The following republicans voted
against the bill: Adams. Carter and
Dwight of New York. Gardner NJ New
Jersey, Hill of Connecticut. Hun of
Pennsylvania, Mccall OF Massachu-
setts. Porter and Sibley OF Pennsyl-
vania, Southwick and Vreeland of New
York.
The following democrats voted no.
Messrs. Harrison of New York Mcper-
mott of New York. Rider Of New York
Scudder of New York Goulden of New
York and Hull of Pennsy svania-
The house at sos p m adjourned