The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-11-23

'I think it was about ~, 900 a year
for five years. The lease expired in
1904, and the plant is now in the hands
of the National Packing company, which
has put in a packing house there"
His Deal With the Frisco.
when You went to Ellsworth in 1903.
whas was the rate on slack?" asked Carr
Taylor.
TT was then s1.25 per tom
Have you had any concessions in
rates since going to Ellsworth ?''
I don't want to answer that" said
the witness.
81 shall have to insist upon an an
swer," was the reply.
well, will say that have had
none since the state anti-discriTnina-
ton law went into effect"
Give specific instances of rebates
on coal while you were at Ellsworth
Il knew" replied the witness, that
they had never paid over a dollar a
ton Tor slack at Hutchinson It was
very evident to me from the prices
which Hutchinson producers were
making on salt that they were not
paying $3.50 for their slack, including
freight and all, as was doing. A lit
tie information came into my posses
sion. Mr.. Matthews learned that the
Central Coke & Coal company was
selling to W. J. Lawrence. coal agent
of the Rock Island, and that this coal
was delivered in Hutchinson. The
Hutchinson people were getting q rate
OF 81 and paying 81 for their coal. I
presented these facts to the Frisco, and
was at once granted a rate of $2.03 for
coal delivered. 1 paid 81 a ton to the
railroad company and $1.0S to the coal
company"
''How long did this continue?"
1905"
Meantime what was the price of
slack at the mine to ordinary pur-
chasers ?''
1T went as high as s1.4O at times. ;"
What kind of an expense bill was
rendered to you by the railroad?"
TT called for $1.25, the regular
rate
tAnd you paid it?''
yes, paid the full amount"
"Then what %
The agent refunded 25 cents.''
What agent? %
1.-THE agent at Ellsworth
''Why did the railroad make such a
concession to you ?''
well, it was of interest to the
Frisco to take care Of Ellsworth. They
have the whole haul to Ellsworth, and
on the haul to Hutchinson they have
to divide up. They refused to make
me any concessions, however, until I
proved what the Hutchinson people
were getting"
LOomis Clears Union Pacific.
HAS the Union Pacific ever hauled
coal for you to Ellsworth at less than
tariff rates? p" was N. H. LOOMS first
question on cross examination.
mo, it never had chance" was the
reply.
for you?'
''Weil, I never had to ask it for any
/ concession"
]. H Richards. for the Missouri
| Pacific, said:
''Did you really need this dollar rate
which you secured while at Huchin-
son from the Missouri Pacific, or did
you simply take advantage OF your
/ knowledge of conditions at the Kansas
| Salt company to hold up the railroad
! company"
sI needed the reduction to compete
with your pets, replied Moore.
"As a matter of fact, did not the
railroads extend such assistance to
any small and struggling plant to let
/ it get on its feet?'
mo, it did not; three of US were
| getting rebates there at Hutchinson
/ there were eight or ten outsiders who
| couldn't get in
Taylor and IOOmis Clash
Mr.. LOomis started in on a line OF
| questioning calculated to show that
the cost of hauling empty coal cars
| back to the coal fields was the cause
| of the high cost of transporting coal.
''There is no point to this exani-
nation" said Mr.. Taylor.
well, I like your reflections" said
| MF. LOOn1S.
ct beg the gentleman's pardon. if
I offended him; I simply meant that
in the tables before the board con
cerning cost of transportation the cost
of hauling back empties is included.
Therefore I say there is no point to
! the examination
eff it comes to an argument re-
tcrted Loomis, st think that I can
prove that Mr.. Taylor doesn't know
as much as he thinks he does"
The large corps of railroad lawyers
and freight experts is recruited for
this hearing by the addition of some
ccaI rate experts Chief among these
is J. ]. Coleman, coal traffic manager
of the Santa Fe. Mr. Coleman asked
Mr.. Moore large number of ques-
tions.
John Madden. representative of the
NJ. <. < T., also appeared today. IN
dications are that the hearing will
! consume most of the remainder of the
week.