Richmond planet. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1883-1938, 1905-12-16
HARTMAN THREAT
TO RYAN COMES OUT
Declared BE Would Use Political
Pail Against Equitable.
soME MORE CAMPAIGN GIFTS

New York. Dec. -. - Thomas y.
Ryan appeared before the insurance
investigating committee and told what
K H Hartman did and threatened to
do whea he demanded that Mr. Ryan
eoncede TO him q share in the control
OF the Equitable Life Assurance So
ciety last June Nr. Ryan assured
the committee that be had meant DO
disrespsct by his former refusal 70
disclose their conversations. and said
that he had determined to answer the
questions 70 which he had refused re-
plies on Friday last. because District
Attorney Jerome said he ought 70
do so.
Mr.. Ryan's version OF what Mr Har-
rimsn demanded and what he threat.
ened 10 do upon the refusal Of his de-
msnds, was IN substance a. follows:
That Hartman demanded one-hah
OF the 500 shares OF the stock OF the
Equitable Life Assurance Society
which Mr.. r an had purchased from
James II. II e. sad which gave Mr
Ryan control OF the property.
That Hartman threatened. unless
re was conceded this share In the
control OF the society. 70 exert his po-
htical and ali other Influences against
Mr.. Ryan and his project.
That Hartman declared there proh-
ably would be legislative Rctlon. and
that in that event his influence would
be important That Hartman demand
81 the right 90 name two of Eve trus-
tees 20 vote ths controlling stock IN
the election OF directors OF the so
ciety.
Tn reply 20 repeated questions by
Charles T. Hurhes. counsel for the
committee. Mt RYAN stated that Mt
Hartman did not threaten that there
should be legislative action unless he
was given n share I'm the Equitable
control but said there probably would
be such action. Neither did Mr.. Har-
riman threaten any action by an on
Ger OF the government.
IL was a strenuous Interview. MI
RYAN said. and was held IN the pres
enCe OF El!hu Root then Mr.. Ryan's
counsel. now secretary OF state. and
Paul d. Cravath also MI. Ryans
counsel Mr. Ryan told the committee
that AR. Hartman did not want any
body 10 coutrol the Equitable So
ciety unless be had a share I'm Il. Mr..
Ryan also stated that he paid no At
tenticn 20 Mt Harrimana statement
that his influence would 30 important
In the event OF legislative action and
Informed him that he wanted no part
ners Ia the enterprise Dir Hartman
did not rst the coveted share In the
stock
Mr. Ryan declares that this inter
view took place within a few DAYS
after he got control Of the HYDE
stock
United States Senator John F. Dry
don. 81 New Jersey. president OF tho
Prudential Life Insurance Company
OF America. was on the witness stand
all the remainder or the day He tes-
tined that his company paid $4,000 20
the Republican national campaign
fund Fl 1895. 1870 and 1904. Il also
paid $4,000 To- Andrew Hamilton. for
merly the New York Life Insurance
company's legislative agent at Al
bsny.
The senator also said that he Eot
a g per cent commission on some Of
the insurance In the Prudential on his
own life and IS and so per cent. on
FIRST premiums and "A per cent. on re-
newals on other policies held by him
IN the same company. He also re-
ceived a commission on a policy he
holds IN the Provident Life and Saw
ings company.