The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1905-03-28

the permits and told the people to go
on into the Settlement. / was surpris,
ed that they were not directed to the
corral. / asked the officer where was
the corral and he pointed to it. He
said the people were not to be kept
there. I did not see any preparations,
but understood there was a meeting
the night before, when committees
were appointed to receive the visitors.
1t was not understood by the lepers.
so far as learned, that there was to
be a mingling and shaking hands OF
themselves and others.
To Achi-I did not make an order
for the people to leave the corral and
go out. I made inquiries not with the
view of assuming authority, but to see
whether or not the rules were being
observed. Did not find out why the
people We're allowed at large among
the people. AS to people meeting out
side McVeigh's yard, 1 did not inter-
fere-consldered it was his business
not mine.
Witness here made a volunteer state
ment. Pinkham sent Charlie Clark to
my room before daylight, to tell me
he wanted to meet me on the bridge.
1 met him and he said he wanted me
to go ashore with him. He did not
take me ashore with him, because he
said he did not want to drown me.
President Pinkham here asked to
have read a report he had in typewrit-
ing of the remarks of Fernandez in the
House on moving to return the letter
to the House from the president Of the
rd nf In, tx,bio fI,a
denied the truthfulness of the letter.
To Pinkham Witness answered
questions about where the president
stood and what was said as to landing
on board the Kinau.
Q.-The second boat did not land?
Al thought you went in the Sec
ond boat.
Ono. that is not so, but that does
not matter. Did not you hear the dis
cussion with Capt. Clarke about the
condition of the water?
A.-After you went ashore there was
a meeting of the committee, and
Pinkham-You are going ahead Of the
questions. We are still on the boat
Breads from correspondence Has
Capt. Clarke misstated any of the
things mentioned in this letter?
Witness-My opinion as regards
those people of the steamer is that they
We're too lazy to do their own work.
Not only that, but they were all drunk
Capt Naopala's mate was drunk. The
mate of the other boat was drunk.
The freight clerk was drunk. Another
thing-it happened just before I went
to Waikolu. Capt. Clarke was told the
committee wanted the boat to go to
Waikolu. Instead of that the boat
went to Kalawao and anchored there.
I asked Capt. Clarke what he meant
by anchoring the steamer there when
he was asked to go to Waikolu. He
answered that he wanted to see how
the landing was there. 1 told him that
was no use, wasting time that way.
Capt. Clarke then took up anchor and
went to Waikolu. I ordered a boat
to go ashore and said / would go in
the boat IL I died in the water. The
boat went ashore in did not get bit
wet. The trouble was the steamer peo-
pie did not want the bother of rowing
the people ashore. More than that,
the boat stayed ashore half an hour
and the word was given out at Kalau-
papa that the water was just as rough
at Waikolu, but the committee found
that nobody was sent to Waikolu at
all to ask about the water there.
Dickey-Now please confine yourself
to Mr.. Pinkham's questions.
Fernandez disclaimed having had any
sense of responsibility for controlling
the holders of permits. He got lit
tie excited and pounded the desk in.
front of him. Further questioned he
said he met Supt. McVeigh at his
house. Did not discuss the liberty of
the crowd with him. Did not discuss
the matter with you CPinkham) be-
cause did not consider the committee
had any responsibility.
Q.-Why did you come ashore before
you knew what arrangements were
made?
In reply witness merely reiterated his
opinion of the Boards entire RESPONSE
bility. you issued the permits, and
you should have seen that their con-
ditions were carried out" the witness
said. In his judgment the Board OF
Health alone was responsible on the
landing. II there was damage to the
boat and injury to the people, the
Legislatures committee would have
been responsible for the boat. but the
passengers would have been RESPONSE
BILE for any injury to themselves, be-
cause they had been warned of the
danger before leaving the steamer.
Declining to answer certain ques-
ton because he was not amenable to
the Board of Health, witness was ask
ed then why he assumed to know all
about the duties of the Board. He
replied: Because 1 know what is in
the pass. / read the pass. The Board
of Health has to carry out what 1t
puts in that pass"
President Pinkham complained of not
receiving an answer to his question of
whom was responsible for the landing
of the people on the wharf. He de-
clared he would have an answer IL he
stayed there Indefinitely Achi argued
that the question was not relevant to
the issue the Senate raised. Dickey
considered all the facts and informa>
ton obtainable We're desired.
Pinkham-nid he cnp1p1ittaa