Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11


up 10 the time 1 was elected senator
but I am stil president Of the Prove
Wooden mills
MIR. Taylcr--You continued TO be
manager after you became an Apostle
and dntll you became Senator?
Senator Smoot-l did. was manager
then.
Mr. Tayler-That was FOR about how
long2
senator Smoot- About three years.
Mr. Taylor-Were you and are you
engaged in any other buslness2
Senator SmOot--l am.
Mr. Tayler-You stated the facts
generally IN your direct examination.
] do no. mean to ask you whether you
have n business relation, as having IN
vestments, but Whist other business
have you that takes your time and at
tention?
Senator Smoot-I am president Of the
Provo Commercial and Savings bank,
and / am director IN a good many
Of the institutions ia Salt Lake-tne
Descret Savings bank, .he Deseret Ma
tional bank and Clark Eldredge q CO..
and lions Cooperative Mercantile IN
stitutiOn
Mr. 'rayler-By the way there WAS a
question asked here the other day
eratiye Mercantile Institution?
Senator Smoot--Yes,
Mr., Tayler--How many branches are
there2
Senator smoot--The Ilon Corpora
tive Mercantile Institution has whole
sale branch at Provo, for the distribu-
ton OF goods I'm the south. They have
a wholesale and retail branch at Ogden,
and they have a little retail store up al
Idaho Falls.
Mr.. Tayler--And none elsewhere
Senator Smoot-Noue elsewhere.
Mi Tayler--No branch of any KIND
elsewhere?
Senator Smoot-Not elsewhere,
Senator Dubois--Idaho Falls is IN
ldaho2
Senator Smoot--Ges: Idaho But /
rather think we win close that out Just
as soon as We get a chance. IL Is only
retail store.
Mr.. Tavler-Now, Senator, to what
extent DO you understand what you
may call the ararchy-whatever Is
composed I'm the ruling authorities OF
the Church have authority or jurisdlc-
ton over the affairs Of the Mormon
people,
MIR. Worthington--I suggest that you
had better state what authorities you
include In that description.
Mr.. Tayler- Whatever the author!-
ties are. DO not care who they are
whether one man or a thousand. | am
only asking az 10 the hierarchy,
Senator Smoot-l do not know what
you mean by that, | can tell YOU what
the general authorities of the Church
are.
Mr.. Tayler-They are who?
al II
ties OF the Church are the Presidency
Of the Church, the quorum Of the
Twelve Apostles, the seven presidents
Of the Seventies, the presiding Bishop
ric. and the presiding Patriarch.
Mr.. Tayler--NOw You may answer
the question which / asked you. We
have had explained to us who the au-
thoritles are and how they act. Now
what authority or jurisdiction do they
exercise over the peoplc2
Senator SMOOTH what respect?
Mr., Tayler-In respect to spiritual
or temporal affairs.
Senator SMOOTH regard TO spiritual
affairs they have the direct charge Of
all the organizations, spiritual organ
i2atlous or church organizations, that
there are I'm the Church, Az to tenn
poral affairs, they have simply the con-
are owned By the Church within the
Church.
Mr.. Tayler-The interests Of the
people of the Church, In so far as
those interests are related TO the
Church, are the subject OF their juris-
diction, are they not?
Senator Smoot-They have no inter-
est whatever In the peoples affairs.
Mr.. Tayler--For instance, Senator,
you heard the testimony here I'm the
Blrdsall case, did you not2
Senator Smoot-Yes; heard that
testimony.
Mr.. Tayler-You have heard It re-
ferred to often2
Senator Smoot-Yes
Mr. Tayler-There one party brought
complaint In a Bishops court against
a woman, claiming that she had title
to piece Of land that he ought 10
have title 10.
Senator Smoothly the way, IN that
case, | have understood, having re-
ceived word, that Mr.. Leavitt did not
belong 10 the Church at all. He is
not a member Of the Church. | state
this TO show you how far wrong that
very case has gone,
Mr. Tayler-The case was there, Sem
atOr2
Senator SMOOTH was.
Mr., Tayler--Do you dispute that the
case did occur?
Senator Smoot-I do not.
Mr.. Tayler-So that they permit their
courts TO be used by Gentles?
Senator Smoot-Not by any law Of
the Church,
Mr. Tayler-Not By any law of the
Church?
Senator smoot--Or rule Of the Church.
Mr. Tayler--Do you suppose that the
Bishop and his counseIors who tried
this case knew that Mr. Ieayitt was
not a member Of the Church,
Senator Smoot-l do not know that.
Mr., Tayler-Anyway, they enter
tanned that Case2
senator smoot-They entertained that
case.
Mr., Taylcr-And they did not ask
Miss Birdsall whether she was willing
or not?
Senator smoot-I rather think they
did.
Mr.. Tayler-The record does not show
IT,
Senator smoot-The record shows
they asked him,
Mr.. Tayler-They asked him,
Senator Smoot-But----
Mr. Tayler--But not her.
Senator Smoot-But she made the APP
peal and II she had not made the APP
peal she certainly would mean by
making the appeal she certainly had
given her consent
Mr.. Tayler-After the Bishops court
which had brought her In before II, had
made an order that she must make
deed TO Joseph Leayitt for this land
what would have happened II she had
not appealed and had refused to make
the deed?
Senator Smoot-I think they would
have dlsfellowRhipped her II she had
not carried out the decision of the
court
Mr. Tayler--They would have excom-
cunicated her?
Senator Smoot-Yesi / think so.
Mr.. Tayler--l use the word "eXcom-
muuicated' because we understand that
word a little better than the other
Senator Smooth order that there
may not be any doubt In your mind as