The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1905-03-19

ofONueQ Nouelnout on your EA4b olNN " -
our Whitoohapel tells the came story OF
lives which will not, even when opportunity
is given, separate themselves from the eT-
oitemOnt Of mintling with other llves,
1T q easy for us 70 look on and see how
the young man with his head only Just above
the water, fighting TO keep fOothold IL In
a few years going TO lose even that ques'
tionable advantage as age and weakness
creep on. II Il easy for us TO mark the
pretty bright girl grow old and gray and
get pushed TO the wall, but you can't take
people en- bloc and remove them. Every
means must DO a palliative merely, not q
perfect method.
I'm 100000 people you will pnd per
haps 200 900 who are born oolonistS, and. It
Is that number that we hops to reach The
rest. We know, will not be changed. They
will live and die In the struggle die before
their time live with stunted souls and
anRmlo bodice
do you think that our emigration ques-
ton could be met by a oolonlEing schemei'
was asked.
Mr.. Haggard returned to his shut-in
manner.
i cannot talk about that, important As
It is. / do not think that any Englishman
who knows 30 little about America from 40
tual experience should venture on opinions
concerning It's institutions. The other day
/ was made TO say something about the
President j. sounded 90 arrogant have
a horror Of being made TO appear arrogant;
and then thouRht-well, OF course knowing
their own papers 90 we'll, perhaps they
won't think said It after all. Then ! felt
| better But, no, | could not discuss your
institutions
Not sven the cabs-of course you ordered
them largely when you first arrived
! well, yea, can say something about
/ them. Robbery, isn't III just plain rob
/ berry.
! And you are so At their mercy; you
/ can't get anywhere without them, for you
| don't know your way and you hate TO hold
! people up. and no matter how determined
/ you may DO when you start out you end
/ by coming back In one with triumphant
driver hourishing his whip and ready TO
| take your last penny, Your people must
! all be milionaires or ride In trans, entirely.
! Col. Haggard recalls a half forgotten
experience.
when first landed in New York said
! This Ia easy. Half Of the city is on the cast
| Of Fifth avenue. the other half west, with
! the Waldorf in the centre That worked
all right until | got down to Wall street.
Then / didn't know where ! was.
Il shall make a short stop at Philadelphia
10 look at some OF the vacant lots under
cultivation on the outskirts OF the city"
Mr.. HagRard went on, From there, after
a short visit in Washington, go direct 20
California and stop on at the desired places
on my return.
i expect TO take about two month"; from
here. I understand that the settlement
at Monterey, Cal, has about five hundred
acres all under perfect cultivation and
yielding a good income.
i am especially interested in Fort Amity,
not far from Denver, which started with
about 60 acres aud now owns over 7,ooO.
Il yields fruitful crop OF oantaloupes,
beets and other vegetables has a ssnitarum.
farmhouses, schools and other buildin @,
and il a financial sucoess, Is lie Fort Her
rick. near Cleveland, donated by Myron
Herrick and James Parmelee.
'Ono Of my interesting stopovers will
he in Utah 10 see the fresholds there which
are part Of the Mormon settlement"
sYou will study Mormonism, too?'
'Not the domestic slde-that does not
interest me, and again the grim look steals
over the rugged face, "but | shnll look
care fully into the land tenure part Of the
existence, which l understand is almost
perfect in It's scheme and results. That
however. is Of course not under the Sal
walton Army scope
The interview is approaching its end
and not a word has been said about Allen
Ouartermsin.' about she, about King
d q all - Oh
names 80 many delightful hours have
chained the name Of Rider Haggard.
Il know, / know" he says in answer TO
the protest from fiction lover against the
absorption Of his present work, but there
are serious years that come into mans
life, when his experience. and his energy
and his ambitions must be put to the use
Of his fellow man.
'Tbese years have come 10 me and
want 10 make the best Of them. ! want
70 do necessary work, work With a result
that Is far reaching and helpful. And l
can't write fiction while ! am doing this
for il absorhs all ones life.
Perhaps | shall come back to Il again
but think when do it will be along a
different line. The tramway to-day has
DESTROYED much Of the mystery Of the I'M
explored country, ana reanty IL running
Imagination close; but there arc new fields
for fiction TO touch, just as new and just as
far reaching; there are the great probe ms
Of humanity throbbing at our very gates,
and perhaps fiction will show the way TO
solve them as it has in the past shown the
way 10 tho possibilities Of strange lands"
The faithful brother escorts the inter-
viewer courteously 10 the door.
These sociological problems are all
very WE'LL he admits but. without any
egotism, believe you would find more Of
interest in my forthcoming work entitled
Regent Of the Roues.' have treated
French history humorously in H.
The trouble is,' he REPAIRS, su9Sily,
I'VE ell need more humor u our work and
IN our lives Don't you think sol
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