New-York tribune., 1905-11-22

| ,s-A with regard to the Insurance Department.
| What influence had the Insurance companies IN re-
Fsr9 10 ehe a aip4 gap as You know? AWell don't
think they had any influence SO "a. az me
! O-Do You know anything about-Axcuse me
monent-did YOU know Jan es r n rec 80 1 nsr uIu
know him when he was superintendent u ~
o-was he an attorney Of the Mutual Life prior
to his ten9niqgg enoR qgaf bs VAS
QDo you brow 6ow i was thst in view M of his reia
on to tte Mutual? Al al mt know his reiaLlons
oHaye you s er Senator on n behalf shsf
of The insurance companies to ints, i NeVer
favor by reason of such cpntrlouuohs3 A'-
ON connection with matters of legislator. % O.
the Insu- -ance Department? A--Never IN the "oFI"'
NEVER. ASKED FOR INFLUENCE"
OIL said on account OF such contributions; aafe s
you ever been asked by any aconnecion with
matters of legis.ation? A.-They have never a'AoN
o.@And you have never done anything of the
oDo you happen to know. Senator, what con-
% eog weTe re ma made s, to the nd a
could not tell anything about them at that time
for didn't have any record nor ! maven any
@ to ana tarnsa S then them % he he
o9Was there any cooperation between you and
ing the campaign when both state and national
candidates went before the public? A-Not that
On last auturnn-1so4. that isl A-Not that I
Q@Do YOU Know anything about the eontrl9qqn ut p,
The last Presidentiai campaign? Al knew moth
ing about it. have no knoW5eSee ~ ne Go OF It, r,,itab.
Life during the last campaign? Al didn't know
what they had given; IT was never brought 10 my
o@I am asked whether you desire the conamttee
70 understand that your relation to contriout
by insurance companies began only ten year, ago.
6c 1 wGgd % af not b ten sod Y6a5 6nR gG was much
o.Gwasn'f it considerably longer time than ten
years ago when you 6egan 10 rgeexe II Wa but
/ ant NH / receiving
Q.-Was it as long ago as twenty years ago? A
o,IAbo1t 1885 or 1895 did 1T begin? Al can't re-
member: I can't remember when it was.
o.-But you don't intend 70 be understood as
fixing ten years as the absolute limit? A-No SIT
Oft might be fifteen years or more? Ayes
o.-But these figures you have given me hold
good for whatever time it was? A-Yes. sir
QIAnd according to your pest d recoileeriod eriod
so EAR back as 1885? Al should think likely they
o,-we should be glad 10 know, senator. on what a
@ baS an an n IS sboS n fh they
were justified in making contributions whlle the
Q.-Take the course Of our State campaigns; Of
course. you familiar with them for many s years
what has there b=en in them which would justify
an insurance company in contributing to the ex-
pense? A--wtlI. should not want to pass upon
Off you have an opinion of course. We should
" to get at is this: what Suggestion was there
to the insurance companies Of any quo pro % QUO o.
the, fact that they had made the contribution a.
ADVANTAGE THROUGH Me-
o-what advantage could they really get? A.
They got it through me as being connected with
the State committee
Wen. they would suppose would be very likely
to defend end them at times til @ When 1t was necessary
Q-What would that extend to: what do you
esssry? ti5ssr = RGWeii, -eii-s don't don't Know
O-What had you in mind in saying that? A
! That they would expect me to support them natu-
! rally for anything that they thought was right
Q-And have. they ever requested your support in
Q.-No company has? A.-No company has ever
/ asked my support -.
a company support in return for such contribu-
tions? A.-weIi. don't know;
| YOU would support them or defend them; now.
what class of p4ssjhiItles had you , IN m 1iPo i IN
biiities in mind at all, because where their in
| terests were involved they might come TO me for
o-To see that the legislature did not 1is. enact
legislation which they thought hostile 20 poIlcy-
o-That is about what it would amount to? A
0-How could you control that situation? Al
Q0How could you in any way influence it? A
might have some influence. .
Q.SThrough the disposition Of the moneys in the
election of legislators? A.-Oh, could not say
Q-Isn't that the way it really comes about. Sen
ator that the OF these contributions in the
election of candidates to office puts the candidates
the interest supporting them? A.-That is what
naturally would be involved.
Q.-Isn't that really what is involved? Al
o.That is what you meant when you said d, they 1s
State Committee. to defend them? A.-Yes, sir.
Mr.. Hughes-That is all, Senator 49,. -,,,o,
4 The Chairman-That is all, Senator; we are much
! obliged to you. -
/ The ChairInaIl-We are very much oliged 10 you
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