Los Angeles herald., 1905-05-30
SAYS ASSERTION
IS MISLEADING
SALOONS NOT THE CAUSE OF
POVERTY
DISCUSSION At AUDITORIUM
Job Hartman and Or. {. s. Chapman
Talk About the Economic End
of the Liquor Con-
troVersy
DISCUSSION AT AUDITORIUM

A discussion of the anti-saloon ques-
tion by DR.. Il. s. Chapman, president
of the Anti-Saloon league, and job
Hartman, a Los Angeles attorney, at
tracted a large audience to the Simpson
auditorium last night.
Each speaker was given an hour for
a first period, and then were in turn
allowed ten minutes for replies.
DR.. Chapman was the first speaker.
He said that there is danger that some
men might take a step on election day
which in the calm reflection of their
homes, they might regret. Il have been
in every great reform movement since
my boyhood days" said DR.. Chapman,
land 1 have been in every one of the
no-saloon movements in the line of
progress.
"Under the protection of the law men
will not only drink, but make drunk
ards of others. Worse than that the
government protects drunkard-makers
1t is bad to be the drunkard, bad to be
the drunkard maker, but worse to be
the protector of the drunkard maker.
"The government protects the drunk
ard maker in his work of murder and
debauching iniquity and he pays the
government for doing it.
Says Saloons Cause Poverty
"If a man injured my daughter, what
would you say if L did not protect her;
and if were asked why did not pre-
vent 1t could not excuse myself by say
ing, He was big fellow and could pull
verize me- Well. that's what you say
about the liquor traffic when you say
you cannot do 1t. The American people
can do it if they want to-"
DIR. Chapman pursued the general line
of argument that has been followed
throughout the campaign. He con-
tended that the saloons were the cause
of poverty and argued that the work
ingnan's burdens would be lightened
if the selling of liquor across open bars
was abolished. The speakers remarks
were we'll received and frequently ap-
plauded.
In his reply Mr.. Hartman denied
that the open saloon was the cause of
poverty.
II came here to discuss this question
from the standpoint of the working
class" said Mr.. Hartman. 1.-THE work.
ing class of America has awakened and
is taking deep and intelligent interest
in economic as we'll as moral questions
Morality is dependent upon immediate
material interest, and this question isl
simply one between two conflicting sets
of capitalists. If the hotels. drug stores
and groceries can get the trade pre-
viously held by the saloons, their in
terests compel their morality for the
no-saloon movement.
Workingmen's Lives Shortened
"The average life of a workingman
today is thirty-five years, that of a !
comfortable, well-to-do man, according
to Carroll D. Wright, about fifty years
The working class is robbed annually
of two-fifths of it's life.
when the working class lines up
SOtorNAANA
creased pay the saloon element and
our good moral citizens will unite
against them.
I'm Colorado, when the working
class united and won shorter hours,
not a minister in Colorado with one
or two exceptions) dared to raise a |
voice against the bull-pen outrages.
In that fight ministers, good citizens
and saloonkeepers, as Citizens alliance
people, united against the working
man."
What is the result? The working |
people must go back to work al long
hours and hard labor, and in working
these long hours the workingmen find
that they actually do need a stimulant.
ut was noticeable that at one place |
where the bakers obtained a concession
in the way Of fewer hours and a greater
amount of pay they were enabled to do
and did do-with much less drink.
Because Of these long hours the
worker finding he needs stimulants to
drive him to action, would, if all the
saloons were wiped out of existence IN
Los Angeles, go to using some other
stimulant.
I'm England, where they have stopped
the use of alcoholic stimulants a great
recourse is had to opium. In France
cocaine and absinthe is on the in
crease"
DIR. Chapman's closing address was
given to a plea for the removal af
temptation from bays.
In Harriman's reply, he said: There
is one point L want to be clearly under
stood, that is, that the child working
long hours in the factory is already
ruined before it reaches the age of man.
hood and womanhood"
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