New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1905-12-16

but also thought that If Mr. Morton were chair
Of the the sSs aRa oua and M RYAN
einoere in his motives. proper solution could
,-oErhsn you did think that time th has Mt Mr.
! icld him was not SATISFIED ,..., xou-
But afts. reflection you had s ean "a S ,S Dadr
o.-with that doubt, how could you contribute
a Onnased BY '9 Mr. KSan and the election
whom would lead TO Mr. Ryans completion On. OF mans nla
often take Thinking Mr. Ryan was sincere and I'D
Re w want me e help him. could influence MIN 10
oDid believe at that time that Mr. NJ 1 ryan
oDd that operate With you at al as gi0sve
nest ntsrylsw say was sb af the sR Mere
things that preceded that
6Wo sft you s go right along? Al will answer
your questions or max make va i erefer Al will
lead then TO the morning or adteTn Soa OF aone IN
regard to influencing The election of Nj Morton
He thanked me and tod me ne meeting Of the board
would be in my Office 80 ! wa ths I1ntrv
S@ I i've in the summer time After the meet,
Ing Of the board Of aes and IN me and oe me-
then appreciates my helpag him =. IN g esinns
and that he would DO nothing further without CON
3sTng with ms qG sesas wa 2 to know where
se could reach me that evening tod nun ma
but would go to the Metropolitan Club and wait
"' went 1.-THE there waited until about Ii o'clock a:
night. when Mr.. Cravath came I'D TO sce me and
IVES sorTy that he had TO act without letting me
know told me what he had done and ne Man asS
told Mr.. Cravath that was not in the habit OF
soins to o my home and staying in town such
and that oonscersd that an act OF 9an d sa5
nothing more-I believe turned my rack on
ssepho ana e wanfea with M RyanethsT
asked for exclamation or ne Sa ed me ne up aeS
me TO meet Mr.. Root in his office / OF course tola
him WS Sn6 BE F hs aS 40 sd Would be
MONDAY and he asked me if I would come 70 his
ss ea MG ap y he Snday tod MIN '0
WHAT Mr. cRAvATH DID.
owhat did Nj cEsysh tell you had been done ,
Were conferred with? Ale told me what they
had determined to do in the event Of the appoint,
being done once and anDogncs s5d in b fhs
ewFork papers the morning Rdpe ne a mo. one
nse was 10 NO Which g dssented and tod him that
s Ey ie gaH n the Metropotan Cub and
o@Prior to that interview you had no intimation
M 70 ,d dgan had 5a&f been asa'e sent ASo sr n
fact want to say here that my mind has - not
only been having SS ByeB mind q h Rb y ohe
sTerSSoaS else undaFstaad hat have sons s;
Insurance NY reeellection is. told Nj Mr. Ryan so
sonaI interest that did not care anything about
s. that my AFFAIRS were much important than
e mo greater inportance that all the interest,"
had in II was to see nat tnls question vas nna1S
properly safeguarded. Those may not have been
a0Ff has 0e Some e0s Sixteen thousand miles Of rail
road and thirtyhve or forty steamships, and with
those matters he has not much time to think
R SGGS W woe - ether anu =--o-'-
o1Then up to Il O'clock on Fri 6 pight there
any participation in his purchase? A.-No. sir.
New s Kya tb S oe Fay as to the Price ased
him what he paid for II and he told me ne. ne was
had tod me- and did not kn6w a Whe en- vent to
the intination was that it involved several millions
60 whether It was an absolute sale? Al think
satd-5e tcld me II was c4 ono i On MS getting
Q-I apart from that thar the tEanf Fea
trustees would amount to an absolute transfer of
that was the situation and that there was no ar
rangement by which it should be carried for MI.
SUSPECTED F1spe te BY !;' eve II
Q.-Inciudiug yourself? A.-well think likely |
that in my mind, as well as in everybody |
ODD you say anything to him on that subject? |
o-Wheu was the next interview? A.-Thst was |
THE MONDAY INTERVIEW.
Dyes, and who were present. A-Mr. Cravath |
and MI Root think Mr. Root not there ell |
oEThst was at Nj Ryan's ONCE? '- AT his re-
guest
Q.-What took place at that interview Al
Etarted right in on my own account without hear
ing what they had &c say. OF course, I in
me TO further doubt the sincerity of Mr.. Ryans
purpose, and I opened, / think, with remark
He said: Yes" I said, We'll viii tell you
what l viii do. viii take half your stock. ! |
don't know what II cost and do not care-pro-
sff gep Hho TO a hf s aBsoaey Of a tEo
pendent There was no discussion after that at all
except he said, Il won't DO it. that is not what you
sg5eed 70. . aalo, Mna5 40 you mean agreed
Hed that was acting from unselfsh motive In
inc interest OF the general situation and the socety
THAT you would help me-, and cooperate with me-
sale. Yes, die. and this is my way OF satisfying
Now that statement is clear in my mind. What
these gentlemen have said did say as to that, |
was going to do myself had clear in my mind.
and had done it. as ! an in the habit of doing It
discussion and may have said what they say,
20 using my influence in every way. don't know
So But aid feei that Unless M Ran was ae
ing from pure motive and not for his own self
and every effort ought to be made by every re-
spectable citizen 10 stop it, and that is what |
not DO It, after the discussion we had subsequent |
g his statement he said he would take it under
Dd he tel you that he ssi desired to haze the
the ei Trustees who had bsan named? Al do not
think we went into that discussion Mr.. Hughes: |
hn noang n 9e es ahGqf T. saa p 5haS a ae Rsa
opd Is not outline % you his i plan afo soS strip
90 not remember that he did at that time,
once9 IN t6e psSers aea sire pan as an
Q.--And you knew the trustees that had been |
nan a seen a feE You na hea seen thought snst
gou meant If I knew them personally.
wee e?No iiIr @san you khe" VINO the nominees
oGundsr those circtiiI9;stsn,ces Why did you
Ain order that there might be TWO additional |