New-York tribune., 1905-11-16
HARTMAN ANSWERS HYDE
Continued from nrst pAee.)

It.
.r.-v was absolutely calm Some surprise was
.v,ited by the suggestion contained in Mr..
.yoqhes,s examination that a condition in the
.attIerent of the Oden suit had been ex-Gov-
.,,or Odell,s advocacy of Mr.. Hyde's appoint
en4 as Ambassador to France. Mr.. Harri-
nan denied all knowledge of this The exainina-
tion regarding the odelI suit follows:
Q-Testin,ony has been , rec received here as TO an
semen Of odss ~i claim
kopd TS o GSPa iSe sts sbf bpbud ff s
Ing COMPANY: Did you have such an II interview! lew
1ss nave @ not t read any Of the evidence given
by any other witness so that my mind is entireiy
Q.I2sbhi r.bicb be' have been made which / shall do
men mems viii ask you 70 give the benet of your
recollection to any transactions with MT Hyoe
05eiTs suit. AIR Hyde came TO me--I am not
sure Po1 Iofeler ePloE or Separately don't recoectand
seked me If / could not influence 10 try TO
get tT0HeerO tWben was that? ANThat must have been
SasIizeNI think il was time last winter.
I not nR II 5Re it Ia last a autumn or last
Winter 1t may have been in the summer 1t is not
iieS @ @SWei. y the date we may be able to supply
With some reference to the time of the setlement
How was il before that a a. III tnllh IL @
was made.
MR. HARRIMAN's STATEMENT.
N you will &c on !}steen Rsas aPd to me wRas Wss
TOOK Pa pao S6e1 suit was dangerous to the Mercan-
tiia Trust Company in that 1t might induce other
suits f BE n5oughe 6 fhe By G5beh
agreed with Mr.. Hyde that / would see Governor nor
0aan which ! did and arranged an interview De-
tween them. which took place in one OF the rooms i1
Of Office was not present e ana & kew be{weeg
f:overnor OdeII anG Mr.. Hyde, and think Mr.
sbont this conversation that when Governor
odel came out of the room he asked me VINO Mr
I ~ 4 raOrt tbpn
told him believed he had something to do with
the law depaFet or pr lee is the Wboe Edntsbe and
Mr. Hyde is nothing; he was the man that stated @
What they would would not DO, 1t seemed to
have irritated him. That is all i had to do with
lUF was finally approached again some days after
that by Mr. Hyde and Mr. Colby, who came to my my
Office and stated that Iney sun n cobs 'nes
marx to me was: Z want you to understand. Mr..
hnef What he meant by that dont know To
this I made reply, but told Mr.. HYDE that
IN do something settling the suit and finally
~ me- or not but they had another interview.
think somewhere uptown, perhaps at my house, at
have ANYTHING to do with it. and in the end Mr..
Hyde told me that they were willing to pay S7oogo
that amount which did. As recoliect it: Gov
g enqF %o5 Gde DO t0ia So me we a' told him that did
rot want to be put in that position He went into
fees out of it, and that, anyway if l specially re-
euested he would told = Mr Hyde e Of fl that t inter- ter
were going 10 settle it. although mad no ADVICE TO
would not stand $1,000 settlement of that
kind. would make it satisfactory. And under
stood afterward that Mr.. Hyde saw him and the
payment made, OF which 1 had no further
o@HoW long was it after the interview you had
first with Mr.. Hyde when Mr. Hyde and MI; Colby
met Governor odeil at your office? Al don't
remember. 1t must have been within few days
o-And how long was it after that time when
cannot remember tnal- II was d snort TIME
Q:was it within a short time? Alt was all
o.--And the interview which was subsequently
dell was that at your house or at a cIub?. Al
DON'T remember any interview after the one had in
Governor odeii I don't Know that Mr.. Colby was
present at any other meetings between thosei peo-
o-Then the subsequent interview. which you
arst thought was at your house. was an interview view
between Mr. Hyde and Governor Odell? A-That
o:Was that q your house ora or at club club rAco A
lect any meeting that was held at a club
MAKES FLAT CONTRADICTIONS.
Q-Dd you say anything to Mr.. Hyde in any
Of these interviews as to the desirabiity Of set
uing the suit because Of the power that might be
exercised against the company at Albany? A-Nor
Did you make any mention TO Mr. Hyde of
repeal the charter of the Mercantile Trust Com
Q.-Did you refer at all to any advantage to the
company in settling the suit TO avoid an attack
Mr Hyde that did not know anything about the
Q.-That is the merits OF the claim. the conten-
o9n m a. did & not know anything f 4a about It
Il should or should not be settled cd A,oNone A.,
ter Of not Standing for the S ooe
Q-0r 10 Mr. Colby A--No, slr: . . -
influence to obtain settlement Of the claim? A
Q.-Then from your testimony We are to. under
stand Governor odell had no interview with you
go procure ssI9eeqt 2 Of 6 the claim? AaMo
FrOr HEGC2 Ayes. sir.
Q-Mr. Hyde has testified as follows. referring
TO TO y95 yoa fl fbaf the cam BE- setied AYes s he
suggested 10 me that there was then great deai
Be made repeal the charter Of the Mercantile
Trust Company, which was valuable charter and
ne te h9uil5oe LIZ oia i to, e,'5es3 or STATE ibaf 70
Q-At any time? A.-No. sir.
c.-The further question was asked: ''Q.-Explain
what you mean bv the repeal of the charter? Al
mean exactly what say and further answer;
81 suppose he referring to YOU. feared retaliatory
measures on the part Of that powerful gentleman.
o-Why should you suppose so? Al don't know;
suggestion made An 1ust that naked form.
Mould e be ieat id AYes SIR Did you make
any statement in part in substance directly or
9EToo NJ r il'd iHyds$ S''j No, sf
Q-The further question was asked of Mr.. Hyde:
'Q.-I want you state what Mr.. Hartman said
possibility Of that powerful interest Albany
Going harm. being antagonistic on account Of this
assets Of ne Equitable which vas the Mercantile
trust" Did gou say mat? A--No, sir
Q-In substance or in any way? A-No. sir in
40 way whatever
CT further testified: ''Q-Did he say any
hing specifically 8 the repeal of the charter?
A-Yes. sir he mentioned that as a possibility.
s-By lePislation2 A.-Nes, sir, and it was also
umored in the newspapers Did you say anything
o him 10 that effect? A--No, sir
DID NOT KNOW OF SUIT.
q thought had asked you this. but it is sug
sested 10 me that / have not. Did you know of
any that there bin introduced to re-
peal the charter OF the Mercantile Trust Company
A-No. sir.