The Guthrie daily leader. [volume] (Guthrie, Okla.) 1893-1996, 1905-12-13
story of the Mysterious
Tickets.

O. in whose name was this stock
nfnde out2 who was the beneficiary
named In the siockg
A. 1 DON know-I could not state
that.
Q. WAS the stock endorsed By Mr.
Grimes over 10 the bank?
a. DO not remember that. ft was
more thhn two years ago. ana do
n1t remember that.
2. You do not know but that it was
made direct to the Capitol National
bank7
A. do not know-it might have been.
! do not know .
o. Is il possible that it might have
been made In blank and carried by the
bank as blank7
A. do not think so. think would
have remembered It II 1t had been.
by strang:
O. This stock was carried as other
stock--as other securities, ard rendered
as other securities to the comptroller
in your reports?
A. It was. when it was entered In
the securities in September
by Champlain;
q. And he required the bank to take
Il ont OF the securities2
A. yes, sir
BY strang:
Q. Who did that-the comptroller or
the bank examiner?
A. The bank examiner did that. He
mnde the request. we took It out
Q. Where did the money come from to
replace It?
A. do not remember the date It was
taken out. or the procedure IN taking
the same out. 1 can not state as to
that.
@. You do not know where the money
came from that took up the securities7
A. No, sir,
BY champlain:
Q. Is it possible that note was
put into the bank and the stock still
held as security to this note?
A. No. there is no such record as
that.
q. Then it must have been that the
money was put into the bank in place
of the stock, when tle stock was taken
out2
A. The same date in the security reg
lister win show the date 1t was paid
or retired, in the column following.
by strang:
Q. DO you know anything further
about that transaction.
A. No, rir. ] believe not
Q. DO you know Of any money-of
any other money--having been obtained
az that bank for the purpose OF pur-
chasing stock in that Gorporation7
A. / believe that Mr. Biningsley and
Mr.. Robb also purchased stock at a
later daSe. do not remember the date
or the amount that was purchased.
O. 20 you know where Robb got the
money TO purchase the stock; whether
from that bank or not?
A. / do not know. / might state that
Mr. Robb made notes at the bank a
number OF times and It might have been
thai his paper was given IN regards 10
this transaction at that time. but l do
not remember. We had number Of
notes handled by him.
Q. When he gave the notes to the
bank, were they endorsed, or how were
they secured--if any security was had
on them?
a. Just plain notes.
BY straag:
Q. You referred TO some transaction
coming from the Guthrie National bank?
A. Yes. sir; l do not remember about
that
Q. State the amount
A. Il was the certificate numbered
25-I remember that.
O. You say that you do not remem-
Der the amount?
A. No. do not. It was on Au-
gust a.
Q. How did that come from the Guth-
re National bank down to your bank?
A. / do not know Judge, whether a
special transactior. or whether is came
through the days clearance. by instruc-
tions.
Q. DO you know who was the owner
OF that certificate Of stock7
A. No. do not
BY Mr.. Hickam:
@. Was Mr. Robb connected in any
way with that first transaction that you
have spoken Of?
A. Not as / now recollect. He may
have been: / do not remember It was
made through Blningsley. exclusively,
and the only information l have was
through him.
Q. Did he tell you 1t was Grimes2
A. Yes, sir
BY strang:
Q. DO you know Of any other stock
that Grimes owned in the same COM
pany2
A. No, / do not
BY Champlain:
@. How did YOU get the Impression
that This stock belonged TO Grimes
certificates ~ and IA?
A. Through the Information / received
on tho ticket In cash.
Q. The ticket didn't state that?
A. He had Grimes name on the ticlSe.
and the information came to me that IL
was for that purpose.
BY strang
O. Was that by your superior onicer
ia the bank?
a. Yes sir sy Mr., Bniingslsy. the
president
@. DO you know anything about
Flynn's owning some OF thnt stock
through that bank2
A. No. J do not know.
@. Do you know anything OF his SELF
ing some TO BniinGsley?
A. No, I do not / do not think
Flynn wasI DO not think he had any
transaction with the bank at that time.
] am not positive. bat I think not
O. ID you know whether on not he
sold any Of that stock ia thas corpora
tion TO Mr. Bnlinesley2
A. do not.
@. DO you know whether Grimes snld
amy stock IA that corporation TO lir
Bnlingsley?
a. The same stock chat was rcpre-
scntca ia tha ticket was transferred to