The Hawaiian gazette., 1905-01-03
.L|SHMAN'S
SIDE HEARD
Answers the Governors
Liquor License
Charges.
tFrom Sundays Advertiser,

concerning the charges preferred a
gainst the firm by Governor Carter.
Both Mr.. Lishman and Mr.. Day were
perfectly free in their answers and ex-
pressed considerable surprise that the
Governor should have singled out Mac.
farlane & Co. us the one firm against
which to direct his charges, both stat.
ing that all the liquor firms in town
were certainly and equally in the same
position.
cit is certainly surprising thing
to me that the Governor should take
this stand against the firm of Macfar-
lane & Co.," said Mr.. Lishman. al
have been connected with the firm for
thirty years and my conscience is clear
that in all that time our reputation
for fair dealing, under the terms of
/ our license, has been good one. In
all that time you cannot find that the
firm of Macfarlane & Co. appears on
the police books. That cannot be said
of other firms in the city.
"The Governor, it appears to me, is
speaking Of matter which is now be-
fore the courts for decision. This is
the case of the Pacific Club, a club to
all intents and purposes the same as
! q large number of so-called "clubs'
hereabout, except that the Pacific Club
is an aristocratic and exclusive organ
ization. If we have sold liquors to
these "clubs,'' we are not altogether
aware of it. We cannot employ a sys-
tenn of spies on our payrolls to follow
every man after he has bought from
us to find out whether he is selling it
in club" We pay liquor license
and other taxes to the Territory for the
purpose of selling liquors wholesale to
whomsoever desires it. Part of these
taxes 60 to maintain Territorial police
force under the direction of the Gov
ernor. 1t is the duty of that police
force to ascertain these matters, not us.
"Would we dare ask Governor Car
ter, should he come to our place of
business and ask for consignment of
liquors and pay for them, what he in
tended doing with themf We cannot
carry on our business under such sys-
TEN.
Gin all the time that / have been
with the firm l have endeavored to
sell discreetly. If wife or q relative
comes to us and says that so-and-so is
buying liquors when he cannot afford
it, and is depriving his family of cloth
ing and food for the sake of liquor,
then we will not sell to such person.
''As to the clubs so often spoken
of, the Pacific Club has sold to it's
members, just as these clubs have.
Governor Carter is n member of the
Pacific Club, and has presumably order
ed and paid for glasses of liquor. Did
he have right to do so, or should he
have done 500 That is a question now
before the courts.
81 am not altogether aggrieved over
this matter. j have personal friend
ship for Governor Carter. We are
for we were both brought up in this
city. know how to conduct my business
on honorable lines. l may not have
had such a fine college education as the
Governor received. We went to the
same school here, but became bust
ness man long before he went to school
He may have had rich daddy, but
too had a daddy, and although not rich
he was an honorable business man.
""Another thing, our license does moi
expire until August and many things
may crop up before that to show
whether or not we are guilty of what
the Governor has charged us. Mind
you, we have been charged, but we
have not been proven guilty by any
means. Until then we may be presumed
to be innocent.
"Now as to Mr.. Halter. The state.
ment of the interview between Halter
and Mr.. Day at the Governor s office,
as printed in today's Advertiser is
correct. There is one thing, however,
that | wish to add. Mr.. Day has been
here for many years and has raised his
family in Honolulu and I believe in.
tends to remain here. He is a business
man, and / have confidence that the
public knows his worth in the commu.
nifty. 1t resolves itself into a question
of veracity between Halter and Mr.
Day, and as to whether Halter or Mr.
Day is a liar. AS matter of fact
do not believe that Governor Carter
has improved his standing in the com.
munity by employing a man like Halter.
This is a small town. He could have
obtnined his information through local
sources. Mr.. Halter is stranger to
Honolulu, Mr.. Day is not.
''Just what course will be adopted
by this firm ] do not know as the part
ners are not here. The matter will
probably be allowed to go on without
any effort to change the Governor g
views. We have not been informed by
the Governor officially as yet All we
know is what we have seen in the AID.
vertiser.
"Iaken all in all do not think we
have been injured locally. What injury
may result may be to our correspondents
on the mainland who may believe that
our license is to be taken from us, and
therefore that would hurt our credit,
what little we ask, for we pay our bills
up to the hilt.
"Does the Governor take eognizance
of the great loads of sake which are
sent down the railroad or on steamers
to other islands, to places where there
are no saloons or licensed distributors
How is this trade managedf Is this
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