Los Angeles herald. [microfilm reel] (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1900-1911, 1905-10-08

terent from those existing in America
that no comparison could be drawn.
The monsignor stated that while In
Europe last year, during his six
months travel there he saw but one
person under the influence of liquor,
and that was in Dublin. He says that
although every night the people sit
at tables along the public streets and
sip wine and beer, no strong drinks
are taken, and no intoxicated persons
are to be seen. He said that while
the system might work well there, it
would be more doubtful here.
Rev. E. P. Ryland, pastor of the
Trinity Methodist church, south, said:
IT am opposed to anything that would
seem to make legitimate traffic out
of what seems to be bad. 1t seems
to be giving it the sanction of honor
able men, and gives to the saloon a
character 1t should not have. 1 be-
lieve liquor will eventually be outlawed
as illegal, which will be the result of
a long struggle"
Views of Rev. w. F. Day
DR.. Warren F. Day, pastor emeritus
of the First Congregational church,
puts the proposed movement in a
quaint way. He said:
you can multiply groceries without
buys what groceries he wants he goes
home and does not stop at every store
to duplicate his order. But when he
goes to the first saloon, he must stop
at every one until he gets home or his
money runs out. l think the theory
OF the Gothenburg movement is very
good, but much will depend upon those
who manage it."
Rev. D. w. ]. Murphy, pastor of the
Church of the Blessed Sacrament, said:
II am very much in favor of the move
ment. 1t has been so successful in
the eastern cities and Europe that I
think it would be the best solution of
the present difficulty. If put to a vote
1 think the people of Los Angeles
would show their usual good sense in
adopting it. Such men as Archbishop
Montgomery are firm believers in It,"
Rev. j. Caballeria of the Plaza
church looks with distrust on any,
thing that looks like q combination
OF capitalists. He said:
I'm this age of trusts and colossal
companies, which by gigantic combi-
nations and power, are hard to con-
tend with, 1 would not like to see the
saloon evil in the form of a monopoly
eating the bread of the people"
Rev. A. w. Atkinson, presiding elder
of the Los Angeles district of the
Methodist church, said:
II do not approve of licensing an evil
and of the city taking profit out of
vice. Prohibition Is the only solution"
objects to Application
Rev. VIII Knighten, the veteran G.
A. r. man and Methodist minister,
says he does not believe in the high
toned" atmosphere which the affilia
ton of moral men with the traffic
would give 1t.
TT seems that there is no way to
sell liuuor." said Rev. Mr.. Knighten,
'fn respectable form by permission of
the law which would make it respect
able or moral. 1 think it is better the
way it is now. The other way it
would seem to make the Christian
sustain it,"
TT is a capital idea" said Rev. F.
X. McCabe, c. NJ, vice-president of
st. Vincent's college. IF it can be
carried out it will uplift the saloons"
Rev. A. S. Phelps, pastor of the Cen
trail Baptist church, said:
THE only way to get at the root of
the evil is from the inside; in other
words. convert the saloon men. At one
of the eastern churches of which L
was pastor, the saloon men regularly
attended the church services, being in
vited each Saturday evening by men,
bers of the church and myself who
visited the saloons to extend the inVi-
tations. 1 believe the only way is
from within, but this system seems
better than the present one. I do not
believe in the strict prohibition move
ment."
For Total Prohibition
at believe in prohibition and nothing
short of It," says Rev. DR.. w. S.
Young, pastor of the Knox Presby-
terrain church, and acting president of
Occidental college, but because / can't
get prohibition, | would not curtail
every other movement, and I would
rather take this than nothing. 1 con-
slider the principle radically wrong"
Rev. DIR. S. A. Thomson, presiding
elder of the Pasadena district of the
Methodist church, thinks the ministers
will oppose the plan. He said:
IF 1 could, l would rid the world of
liquor, and that quick, but so long as
1 cannot, then 1 would do the next
best thing as rapidly as possible. You
cannot conduct a saloon without i'm
morality and crime. But l think the
Gothenburg system would be an i'm
provement over the present"
Rev. Frank de Witt Talmage, pas
tor of the FlrSt presbyterian church,
said
IT do not fully understand the inner
workings of this system, and never
having seen it in operation, 1 could not
form a definite idea. I am for any
thing that will decrease the sale of
liquor"
FaVors the System
IT am for anything that will improve
the present conditions" said Rev. c. c..
Pierce, pastor of the Memorial Bap-
fist church. II know that is rank
temperance heresy. think the Gothen-
burg system would be an improvement
on what we have"
Rev. A. B. Prichard, pastor of the
Central Presbyterian church, thinks
that while the plan works admirably
in Sweden, the American spirit of
freedom would not consent to a gov
eminent supervision. He said:
LAS a temperance man, 1 believe in
the abolition of liquor, except for strict
medicinal uses, but 1 know something
will have to be done regarding the
present liquor problem. I think the
Gothenburg system is good, but I am
not enthusiastically in favor of it for
Los Angeles. We are different set
Of creatures here and what might