Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-14

state Mr., KoDelld stated
IL don't remember being sworn but
once. That was in December Of this
year Q9OD,"
CAME FROM ANYWHERE.
From where did you represent your.
self as coming, Mr.. Roberts,"
II represented myself at different
times as coming from ST. John, Ter
race and Beaver"
II ask you TO turn 20 certificate No.
273 and to state TO the court the cir
cumstances Of your taking the hides to
the clerk this time
ION this day Nov 8, 1904, ] met Mr..
Gorhman opposite the city and county
building by that yard fun OF grave
stones He said, My God, where have
you been. You have missed "A good
thing. said | was sorry and that |
was ready to go 10 work again. He
gave me more hides and | took them
to the clerk for the bounty"
Were the ears punched this time"
Yes, / think So
Were they ever punched before?"
II don't know"
Did you count them?"
yes, | counted them Some times
would outcount Mr.. Davies
What do you mean by outcounting
them"
GOOD COUNTER.
"Well he would punch them and
would help. Then when we We're put
ting them IN the sacks again and I had
only 40 hides | might count 80 and
in that way outcount him and them"
Were YOU sworn them?"
mo"
where did you get the hldes?'
From Mr.. Gorhman."
Where did he get them?"
He said that he got them from
South America"
What did he say he paid for them"
An objection from the defense was
oYerruled and an exception taken.
He said coyotes cost him 50 cents,
Hons and wolves Sl.35, the cats 20 cents
and % cents and the bears the same
depending on the condition Of the hides
when we got them
How many skins did you have?"
81 don't know exactly, Some times
We changed the number. We would put
on five or six lions, some cats and
wolves and bears for measure, TO make
them think we had a good days shoot
ing"
DAVIES ACCOMMODATING.
In response 60 question which was
charged by the defense with being
leading, the witness stated;
Some times Davies gave me tho
punch and told me to punch the hides
myself"
Did you punch them?'
well ! think ! did the best ! could
for myself | was I'm the business for
what there was In IT,"
Did you get certificates then"
The witness answered that he did.
What did you do with these certih-
cates?'
II took them to the bank and had
them discounted, they charged 20 cents
on the dollar
"What did you do with the money!"
~ divided It with MIR. German"
Had the animals ever been brought
up be(ore?"
q don't know"
What did you do with the hides
when you got through with themY
81 gave them to Mr., Gorham again"
what did he do with themg'
wei, we had seconds, thirds and
sometimes good third would be good
enough for fourth"
Witness was asked to explain himself.
well, It is just like a suit Of clothes
or shoes-Gve got shoes on that are Sec
onds Firsts are new hides. seconds,
hides that have been trimmed and doc
tored and thirds are seconds that have
been treated the same way. When they
got this far we took them 10 Ogden and
burned them"
DAVIES WAS MICE"
"Well, what did Mr.. Gorham think
about these things"
"He told me 70 always ask for Davies
He said that anything that came from
Gorham would pass all right, lie said
Davies was nice boy and accomodat-
ing"
ibid you ever take In seconds or
thirds"
Eyes; ! took batch in on the goth
Of December and took the same batch
in ON the 2Srd ! trimmed these myself
Were you sworn?"
II don't think So
At this time, 1915 p, nj. the court adj
journed. Mr. Roberts was still on the
stand, The matter came up again be-
fore the cout at the afternoon session,