The Bennington evening banner. (Bennington, Vt.) 19??-1961, 1905-12-13
DISAGREEMENT
OVER SPOILS
Ryan Versus Hartman in In.
surance Row.
WANTED HYDE'S STOCK
7. r. Ryan on The Stand Gives
Further Sensational Test.
mony.

NEW YORK. lee ia,-in view of The
SENSATIONAL Testimony given by Thomas
y. Ilynn. In which be stated daily that
Edward II. Hartman had threatened
to Use all his political and financial In
nu,ncc against him should the control
~ III. Equitable b. taken over without
his participation. Il WAS generally "a
pecicd that Mr.. Hartman would 10
calle-i t. ih. stand before the icgisla'
tiv. Investigating committee 60 give HE
side ~ III. AFFAIR. rpon Inquiry. how
ever. 4 has Developed that no such
move = contemplated by the members
81 III, committee.
The situation which has developed i
most peculiar. The committee. Il II
understood. will make NO attempt 10
call Mr.. Hartman The latter. II l.
believed. viii not be content 10 rest
under the imputations east upon him
by Mr.. I,ynn's testimony aud viii de-.
mand that lac bc heard.
A. the matter now rests the commit.
tee II entirely satisfied. aud II MIR iiar
riman il content to allow things to
stand ~ they are the committee viii
have no objection 10 offer. Officially
however. nothing has been said on the
question. all members OF the committee
refusing TO discuss the situation.
Mr.. Ryan's testimony was even more
sensational than had been expected.
lie declared that Mr.. Hartman had
demanded Of him that he be given half
the control OF the stock. that he be al.
lowed TO appoint two trustees In add.
ton TO those already arranged for aud
that In the event Of Mr.. Ryan's refusal
he would throw all his financial and po.
lltical influence against him.
During Ave interviews between Mr.
Hartman and Mr.. Ryan. Ia two Of
which Elihu Root and Paul -. Cravath
participated, these declarations were
renewed and reiterated. the latter a.
serted. Mr.. Ryan said that while Mr..
Hartman had not stated definitely that
there would be legislative action he had
stated that there might be and that his
political influence might be very valua-
BILE to Mr.. Ryan.
The most important and sensational
answers by Mr.. Ryan were as follows
q. Now. you said that Mr.. Hartman
told you that you would not be able to
carry out your plan against his opposi-
ton. What opposition did he say he
would give? A. lie said his full iniiu.
nn.a xV.,iI IN a ~.
Q. Didn't he say that his political in
huence would be against you? A. Yes.
Q. Did he tell you what sort of po-
Iitical influence he would urge against
you? A. He did not
Q. Did he mention any names? A.
He did not.
Q. Did he refer to the legislature?
A. He referred to probable legislative
actions or action, or said that the legis-
Iature would probably. take action.
.. Now, can you state the substance
of what he said? How did he put that
in regard TO legislative action? A. I
think he said that legislative action
would probably result and that his in.
fiuence for or against me would be i'm.
portant.
q. Did he tell you that IL you acceded
to his request his influence would be
thrown in your favor? A. Well, that
'was plain to me; 1t would be.
Q. Did he refer to the political influ.
ence that he would assert at the inter-
view at which Mr. Root and Mr.. Cra-
vath were present? A. My recollec.
ton is that he did.