Daily capital journal. (Salem, Oregon) 1903-1919, 1905-09-12
REAL
WARM
TALK
Duncan Tells of WiIIiamSOn'S
Talk Concerning Land
Matters


idation Of witnesses by the defendant
since the first trial Of the case.
Campell Duncan said he was urged tc
60 up TO Williamson's room in the I'm
perial hotel by Attorney George Barnes
Of Prineville, assistant counsel for the
defense in the two former trials, who
told him that Williamson wanted to sec
him. He did as he was directed, and
found the indicted congressman in his
room. Williamson told him. he says,
that some Of the witnesses in the trial
had "thrown IL into them," meaning
the defendants, and that they seemed
"like a wild beast ready to spring on
its victim" However, Williamson
is said to have continued, "those who
make it warm for us will suffer, as we
intend to live in that country"
No names were mentioned at this
time, but later in the conversation, so
Duncan testified, Ben Jones, George
Gaylord and Wilford Crsine were
spoken o. and the witness got the i'm.
preston that these were those meant
by Williamson when he said that some
witnesses had been prejudiced against
bin.
These things are being intimated and
will come out, probably, in the present
trial. Both sides have asserted undue
influence with witnesses before, but the
testimony Of today is the nearest either
side has come to proving its belief.
The examination Of Duncan was so
extended that he occupied the stand all |
tho forenoon. and was recalled in the |
afternoon.
Campbell Duncan, another Of the Ges.
ner entrymen, was tho first witness ex-
lmined by the government today. Dun.
'an is one of the star witnesses for the
prosecution, and has appeared and tes.
ifed at both Of the former trials. His
testimony today was materially that Of
he two former hearings Of the case.
A rancher in the vicinity Of Prime.
'ille, the idea Of taking timber claim
yas suggested 20 him by NJ. r. Biggs,
Who told him IL he would locate on
lain In the vicinity Of the Williamsou.
iesuer shearing plant. Gesner would
urnish him the money to prove up
With. He was told that Gesner would
,uy IL from him for $500 when he
roved up, leaving him about S7j profit. =
To was also told that he could make 1
10 contract with Gesuer. but the two 8
ould have an understanding as 20 what v
Tould be paid for IT, Accompanied by =
lis wife, Duncan said he went up 20 the c
hearing plant. where he met a number II
( other entrymen. They were an Civ. v
n a talk by Gesner, who made the prop. a,
sition 20 those assembled He was "a. b,
acted 20 the land by Gesucr and filed al
efore Biggs a few days after, together ST
18th his wife. N
"I intended to let Gcsucr have the IA
nd" said the witness, in answer to a a
aestion, "when title was completed ar
'r the remainder Of the $500. tu
Duncan said he never made final or
roof, but had a talk with DR.. Gesner. tn
no told him that he could not let him to
ave the money TO prove up on the land. tn
'illiamson was present at this inter. IN
ew. Duncan was shown a newspaper er
.ticle to the effect that Hitchcock was tn
ter land frauds, and would make IL
arm for illegal entries. Shortly there. i'm
ter the witness and his wife signed re- III,
to
Duncan said he has been engaged in an
eating people on timber claims In the aft
'ineville country, The defense tried qu
gain the admission that the witness de.
'nted the claims around the Gesner ed
nch 10 be vacated so he could locate Ian
ople on them for 800 each. He said cor
might have figured on this. but could
{ say If he had spoken with any one
out IL.
Burns Wanted Square Deal
Duncan said he had talked with Mr. an
rms, Of the secret service. about tho az
Sc, and had been toll by tha, official Ia
give the government a square deal noe
hen the witness asked what was the
ant by a square deal, he said Burns
d him 70 tell the truth in the mat
The defense carried on an extended of
e Of questioning intended 10 show tbs tsn
ierenees in the testimony Of the VIE. thu
IS at the former trials OF the ease ana MA,
present hearing, Capital nav Ia are
de out Of the alleged discrepancies In ita
statements Of the wituess in ,bs tbst
uments for the defense. Tbt
district Attorney Heney brought ont Il :
statement that the experience Of the and
ness has been very limited in giving MA,
.imOnY in fourts iaav;,.. A. -.