Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11

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senators have,
Senator Smoot--1Iet me-
Senator Bailey-That implies ! think,
rathes reflection. The charge here,
I'm its widest scope, rs that the Nor
mon Church controls the politics and
Industries Of Utah. The ownership Of
the Mormon Church IN these various
Industries might be entirely pertinent
to an inquiry OF that kind. But there
Is no charge that any senator is con-
trolling either the politics or the IN
dustres or the religion Of a state.
hardly think that was a very apt reply
Senator Smoot--Mr Chairman 1 wish
il distinctly understood that | had no
intention whatever 10 cast a shadow OF
q doubt on a single senator.
Senator Bailey--l ana not one OF the
senatos who would take any oftense
at that, and / think some OF them are
q little richer than IN necessary
Senator Smoot-I shan ask then that
that part OF the answer be stricken out.
The Chairman--If there be no ob1ec-
ton that viii be done
senator Oyermap--lnnsmuch as NY
colleague has interviewed, | viii ask
you this question: Have not these
questions been asked other Witnesses
mean the same questions that have
been asking your
pleased to answer any questions YOU
might possibly ask
Senator yermau--Possibly II the
Senator from Illinois had attended Of
tener, he would have seen that these
questions have gone IN.
Senator Hopkins--l have attended Of
ten enough TO keep track Of the legitlm-
etc issues before the committee.
Mr. WorthingtOn-You could do that
lac s,lf .an
The Chaiman-ln your Church econ
omy is there any method by which the
President can be deposed2
Senator Smoot--Yes; thgre is
The What2
Senator Smooth he commits any
unchristlaniko act, or In any way
shape, or form does anything that
would unit him for that place, he can
he tried just the same as any member
Of the Church,
The Charman--And II found guilty?
Senator Smoot-Aud II found guilty,
he can be removed from the Church,
The Chairman And from his PresI-
dency2
senator smoot-And from his Pres-
dency.
The Chairman heard the testl-
iuony here, | believe, Of Joseph #,
SMITH
HtlhlOI 0liOOl--i ulNs
The Chairman-ln which he testified
that he was living Ia defiance Of the
law of the land}
Senator Smoot-I did.
Tho Chairman--Didl you also hear
him state that he was living contrary
80 the divine law?
Senator Smoot-l heard him testify
and make his qualifications.
The Chairman--That he Is living In
defiance OF the divine command. Has
the Church proceeded against him for
the violation Of these laws?
senator Smoot--They have not.
The Chairman-No steps have been
taken to try him for the offense Of
poygamous cohabtation?
Senator Smoot-No, sir
The Chairman understood you TO
ray this morning that It is the province
Of the Apostles to counsel and advise
the PRESIDENT
Senator Smoot- When asked by him.
The Chairman-Only when request
ed2
Senator SmOot-Yes.
The Chaiiman--You are not, then. at
liberty to advise him unless requested
Senator SmoOt-l do not think he
would object 10 It at AL II | did.
The Chairman--Are you at liberty
60 advise him unless requested?
Senator Smoot--1 do not think Presl-
dent smith would object If I did, | do
not know that have any special right
90 do II, but | do not think he would
object to II,
The Chairman think my question
was very plain You have the right
10 advise him, even II he does not re-
quest II?
Senator Simoot--That Is question
which Il is hard 90 answer yes or no,
and | do not want to-
The Chairman---After you heard Pres
ident Smith testify here that he was
living I'm violation OF the laws Of the
state and Of the law Of God did you
see him In the committee room and
elsewhere
Senator Smoot--I did.
The Chairman-Ilow long was he
here2
senator smoot--IIere IN Washington,
do you mcan2
The Chairman--Yes I am not partlc-
uar about 1.-two or three days2
Senator SmOot-rwo or three days.
The Charman--You saw him FREE
quenty2
senator smoot Not frequently. |
saw him. though,
The Chairman--Dd you make any
protest to him about his manner OF
living?
senator smoot / did not
The Chairman-Yuu have visited
Utah slnCc2
Senator Smoot-G have.
The Chairman You have seen him at
Salt Lake since?
Senator Smoot-l have.
The Chairman--GI Have YOU protested
against his living IN polygamous CO.
habitaton?
senator smoot-T have not
The Chairman-Ilave YOU In any way
sought to bring him to trial for those
uffenses?
Senator Smoot--t have not.
The Chalrman--Do you intend to?
Senator SmOot--G do not
The Chairman--Do YOU remember
how many children he said had been
born To him since 1892
Senator Smool / think Ec said H.
The Chairman-And by all of his Ave
wives?
Senator smoot-That ! am not posi-.
tive Of.
The Chalrman-No with the full
knowledge of these facts testified to
by him, You sustained him In October
last?
Senator Smoot-I dld.
II that Is all you desire 10 ask Mr.
Chairman I should Ike to say this.
The manifesto ne II was voted upon by
the people had no reference to unlaw-
full c0hahltation. TWO years after that
there was an Interpretation put upon II
by President Woodruff. and il was hts
advice and counsel TO the people to ad.
here to that Interpretation, stating that
he was going TO do &, and he advised
all Of the other people 10 do u,
The question Of unlawful cohabita-
tion has never been presented ana sus-
tanned by the people, and voted upon
mt general conference, and take Il
for granted that perhaps some OF tho
members Of the Church have felt that It
was not binding upon them for that
reason.
But Mr. chairman thor, Ia .,,4Lo a..