The evening world., 1905-12-15
Railroad Magnate Asserts that 1t Has Been
Through Him the Former Governor
Has Obtained Political
Influence.

Der II, yes.
O. When did you next have an,
communication with himf A. Aoou
ten or nfteen minutes after that A
his Invitation | went to hiA off1ce.
Q. Tho same day7 A. Yes. sir; M
teen minutes afterward
Q. What took placer A. Mr.. Ryar
then went into the statement OF why
Ne had engaged to buy the stock and
ID gtate to me that he made up his
+ ni;nu that now was the time for him
ID do something to make q name for
himself
B.. Did ne say what he had done in
the direction OF engaging hlmselfI Can
you recall what no said In substance!
A. That he had engaged to purchase
Mr.. Hydss stock. provided ne could
get control Of the--I could not say
control-provided he could get his nom
inee elected Chairman OF the Board,
and that the consummafion OF tho
purchase was predicated upon that.
Questioned Ryan's Motives.
Q. That involved the placing in the
I hands OF his nominee OF the resiena-
tIons OF those who were then In execi-
tive ofiicssi A. That is what he said
90 that his nominee would have free
hand; yes, cir.
Q. What dld he say about his desire
10 make q name for h.mselfg A. That
he had made plenty OF money that he
never had dons anything conspicuous,
and that now he thought there was an
opportunity for him to. do something.
That is. In substance I rather Quss-
toned the motive.
O. Qd you tell him so' A Praou-
ssiiy. yke. ain
Q. what dc you shy. 10 HIM y sub
stance. A. That-weii, let ma GET BACK
a minute. When ] went In there he
told me that hs wanted my hep, ~
wanted mo y co-opersa,e N,,n IIp a ala
| sSy % over ths telephone that was the
ons man IN Nav York whom he desired
70 cooperate with and help nm IN
pldn's Tell Why
O. Did he szy why that wssI A. NO.
ss D,d he cell you what sort ot help
q. oo-opefsfion hs dssiredf A. not spa
daily, except that In tha hrst nstsnos
fS wanted my and In getting nis n2minso
elected that date qh.irman o. ens 'eto, p
!, 3; sss Wee .ssi.lyg tSgf 4 4 i Sa a. S
81 II HOW could you aid him In thst 70.
snsoty a. W infasnolng ths help Of
some Of hoss who were directors.
e. Now somias down ..,ry y y2u b sss =
bfsk 70 a. q "a "a s%s 20 Il x. ySSr ssp. 'aisS SsS,
i'u tSsn aSSsHsg SSs hsg. stsisd--whst IA YOU say
z hSa, MhS@, WIZ 'InIs wss Issadsnsd hat Ss
Vhs sctinE from q pure motive Qr an
Absolutely ,unselfish motive, ana az
hs bad SAID IN ths interest o. me
HaIitfOl: sSnt YOU'D s1d hardy ssss cs cp,rs.s tS
him and help hin He t6la me how
ke vented me 70 heip him that DAY In
fkfting III nomAnee elected Before
SATISFIED. SSt AsF''f would think 81
! Didn't Ask a share.
O. Did you tell HIM st that time you
wanted to share In the purchasef A. No.
q, Did yea .sll h.n that you desired
aN| N0lt VI WV HNY|hl ~ ANOf so
d BID you have any conversation at
that time with reference 10 your hay-
ing any part ct the stockf L. NO,
q pu YOU nsys any convsrsaticn
with him M that time with regard 70
the stock being put In tho hands OF
trNlsteesg A. No, sir
70. what was your mart irterviswf A.
Not untll the Monday following.
Isl bIm in havins his nominee elected
a. Yes, sir.
%. TO the end that Mr.. Ryan's wishes
should be carried outt A. yes, sir.
Q. Why did you DO that II you were
not satished with tho purity OF his In
tentlons? A. I had told him that !
would think II over, and on my way 20
the Office concluded that the man he
had namsd would be proper man. and
parties who we're opposed that II / were
IN their places to vote for Morton, and
I did tell them.
: o. You understood that the election
OF AIR. Morton would fulfil the con-
dltion described by Mr. Ryan, and that
Mr.. Ryan would take the Hyde stock 7?
A. Yes, and also that IN Mr.. Morton
we're chairman OF the board and would
start to unrayel the affairs OF the Eqult-
able ana II Mr.. Ryan was sincere IN
his motives that the proper solution
would finally bs arrived at
y Then did you think at that time
that Mr.. Ryan was sincere in his mo-
tives7 A. | did not; 1 told him ! was
not satisfied; had very sincere doubt
Q. Did you believe at that time that
Mr.. Ryan would share the purchase
with youY A. No, sir.
a. DID that bear with you at ali IN
tho t,ieth0d OF contl1buting 10 the
election Of Mr. Morton? A. No, sir
q. The next Interview was held on
Monday, you say2 A. Yes, sir, but
there were some things
O. QnterruptihE) AT Mr. Ryan's Of
nce7 A. iesr but things preceded
that
Ryan Thanked Him.
@ Who we're present at tho inter
lew on Monday OF MIR. Ryans officer
A. think you want to chose In chrOn-
illogical order and
q. GO right on. A Well l will lead
thcn up % the morning, UP 10 the az
ternoon f Monday. / telePhoned Mr..
Ryan what | had done in regard 10 In
nuenclng the election Of. Mr.. Morton.
He thanked me and told me that no
would Ike 70 communicate with me
after the meeting OF tbs Board, and