Los Angeles herald., 1905-12-16

Mr.. Tillman asked. and Mr.. spooner re
piled that the president Of the United
states had done so.
Mr. Tillman contended that this ad-
mission justified all that he said.
1T Is beating about the bush; the
accomplishment Of what Is wanted by
trickery. II is play on words to Justify
the usurpation," he said.
Denies Triekery Charge
Mr.. spooner insisted that there had
been no trickery and defended the
action OF the president. Trickery was
not a nice thing 20 impute, he said, and
Mr. Tillman interrupted TO say that
when a man accomplishes by unlawful
methods what he cannot otherwise ac-
complish, l call it trlckery'
Mr. .Spooner responded that the term
was nasty and undlgnihed and should
not be used i'm speaking of the head of
coordinate branch of the govern
ment."
Mr.. Tillman-Let the senator suggest
a better one then.
Mr.. Spooner-The senator's whole
idea Is wrong that it cannot be made
right.
Mr.. Tillman then asked what excuse
the president had for not entirely
Withdrawing from San Domingo and
leaving the situation alone, and Mr..
Spooner replied that the senate should
not have adjourned without acting on
the treaty as to ratifyin., or rejecting
1t as the failure had had the effect of
leaving the president in position of
embarrassment. IL was the duty of San
Domingo to maintain the status quo to
preventing the seizure Of her custom
houses or the segregation of her reve-
nues. This It was not easy for that re-
public to do. in view of the pressure
from European nations. emphasized in
one case by the presence of a warship.
In the face of this condition President
Morales had, he said appealed to Presi-
dent Roosevelt and asked him in his
own helplessness requesting especially
that he suggest some honest American
for the collection of revenues. These
agents, while Americans had been ap-
pointed by the San Domingo govern
ment.
only Presidents Duty
"They were appointed by President
Morales and can be dismissed by him."
he said, "and the president of the
United States has done no more than 1t
was his duty to do"
Mr. Money spoke disparagingly of the
presidents disposition to participate in
the affairs of San Domingo without the
consent of congress. He expressed ap-
prehension that the end of such a ten
denCy might be disastrous in view of
the presidents threat to use the big
stick"
"'Walk softly, carry a big stick and
you will go far says the president"
said Mr.. Money, land l interpret this
expression to mean that the president
means to walk softly in dealing with
the big nations, and to use the big
stick in dealing with the weak when he
sets aside the law of the land and sub
stitutes for it his own Judgment
Mr.. Tillman reiterated his declara-
tion that the presence of the United
States authorities in Santo Domingo
was the result of trick.
Speaking of Mr.. Shonts, Mr.. Tillman
said he had understood that Mr.. Shonts
Clover Leaf road. Did anyone know
whether he had resigned? He appealed
to Mr.. Allison. but that senator said
he did not know. Mr.. Tilman said
that he had found Mr.. Shonts' name
in the railway register as still pres-
Gent of the road.
Mr.. Hale spoke in very compliment
tary terms of Mr.. Shonts, expressing
the opinion that his selection was a
wise one. He was certain that.
whether or not he had resigned from
the railroad, he had given his entire
time to the canal enterprise.
Not Cunning" for shonts
Mr.. Tillman said that he was not
cunning for Mr. Shonts nor for any
particular man. He had, as he under
stood, been on the isthmus but twice.
and then only for a week at a time,
since his appointment.
Mr.. Tilman then took up the question