The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1905-03-01
OFFER PLANS FOR TWO LOOPS.
ELEVATED on UNDERGROUND, TO
CONNECT THE BRIDGES.
Members OF Rapid Transit Contract Com
mittee Are Not Pledged TO Either-The
Uullt, Of subway Motors on the Bridges
Agreed To by Three city Engineers.

Two plans for loops between the bridges
TO Brooklyn will be favorably reported to
the Rapid Transit Commission next week
by the committee on plans and contracts,
which consists of President Orr, Com
missioners Charles Stewart Smith. j. H..
Starin and Comptroller Circuit II is the
understanding thatthe members of the com
mttee are not pledged 10 vote for either
plan at the meeting of the whole board.
One plan il that proposed by Bridge Com
missioner Best and Chief Engineer Nichols
of the Bridge Department-an elevated
loop to run through Baxter street and some
private property to the entrance of the
Williamsburg Bridge.
The other plan Is subway loop under
Centre and Delaney streets. Both plans
provide for connection with the Manhattan
Bridge which will be finished in four years.
It is understood in the commission that
any favorable consideration of the elevated
plan must carry with it the agreement OF
the tenant which probably would be the
Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company TO pay
a. per cent. interest on all costs and dam
ages
Nc one knows what disposal the Rapid
Transit Commission is likely to make Of
it's committees plans. II may lay out
both routes and present them to the Board
OF Aldermen whose approval is preliminary
to the scrutiny of the Appellate Division
of the Supreme Court.
II i patent ;iIat the subway loop would
not greatly affect the Brooklyn Bridge
The cars of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit
Company we're not built for subway use
As THE Sun has shown. an elevated loop
would enable the Brooklyn Bridge trains
TO be run from the Brooklyn to the Will
liamsburg Bridge and back into Brooklyn
belt line operating in both directions.
The proposed construction of this loop
through Centre street has been knocked
out by Mayor McClellan's announcement
that he would veto the proposal The
Baxter street route would involve the pur-
chase of private property and Incidental
delay.
As for the subway loop, William Barclay
Parsons, George :. Rice, acting chief engi-
neer of the subway; his assistant, Mr..
Craven, and Mr.. Nichols the chief engineer
Of the Bridge Department, all agree that
the motors used by the present subway
system can cross either bridge at a "A
per cent grade. which IS the highest grade
on any of the three bridges In the Boston
subway no difficulty is experienced with
"A per cent. grade
IL was said yesterday that the successful
bidder for the East Side subway would
probably be the tenant of the sub way
loop. if such a loop were built, so that the
traffic OF the East Side line could be di-
yerted 10 the Williamsburg Bridge and.
four years hence. to the Manhattan Bridge
also. When the third bridge is finished
the Brooklyn Bridge will be rebuilt and
will be- out Of commission for long time
President Winter Of the Brooklyn Rapid
Transit Company sent yesterday 10 Chair
man Ogden Of the Brooklyn committee of
twenty-five a letter declaring his com
pany's willingness TO be a tenant of an
elevated loop through Baxter street The
letter said,
In view OF the public statement Of the
Mayor that the construction OF an elevated
line in Centre street would under no circum-
stances receive his Official approval. and In
View OF the fact that the contract committee
OF the Rapid Transit Commission has for
that reason refused TO further consider IL.
tive plan proposed by MIR O. r Nichols.
chief engineer OF the Department Of Bridges.
which would occupy portion Of Baxter
street, and in pdCt running through private
property between the Manhattan end OF the
New York and Brooklyn Bridge and Delaney
street. and while believing that such line
would be OF FAR less value as public con-
Venence. and consequently to this company,
than one IN Centre street. ! beg leave to notify
ton and operation Of this line IN lieu OF the
other under the terms and conditions stated
in my letter Of Jan 81. 1905 10 the chairman
OF the Rapid Transit Commission AS then
applying to the Centre street line. Yours
truly. T.. ". WINTER President.