The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1905-09-17

| times required parties to bring tax
receipts to prove age. l have en-
phasized caution on employees in the
dispensary. l asked Earl Gotten cas-
ually, as L believed him over 81, on
one Saturday afternoon and he told
me he was over 81.
On crOSS-eXa rninatiOn he testified.
During the winter my office was up
stairs, now it is down stairs in the
corner of the room. Several who tes-
tilted l feel have not bought whiskey.
have no reason to believe that fif-
teen minors have bought Whiskey. l
have some recollection of Will Wynne
saying he was not 81. / notified en-
ployees in the dispensary not to sell TO
Mr. Wynne. If it had been my duty
to arrest them I would have done So
In having parties arrested l would
use my judgment. There is a law
by which arrests can be made of par
ties buying whiskey for minors, and
if | had proof / would have such
men arrested. Boys have been re-
fused whiskey and l have followed
them out to see that they did not
give men money to buy whiskey. /
believe some lied, both of those
Preddys among these. when they tes-
titled today that they had bought
Whiskey. About your Charlie
Thompson / think I've seen him in
the dispensary and that he bought
whiskey but L took him to be over
81 years old The negroes are not
to receive money but to get whiskey
for the clerks. If they were seen to
receive money / would forbid it.
w. A. Baker, of the dispensary en-
ployees, had been called away by
sickness in his family and will testify
later. 1t was stated that his evidence
would be as the others of the dispen-
sary.
w. n. SnelIings, q member of the
Dispensary Commission. AS secretary
and treasurer l attend meetings of
the board and keep records. On Sat
urday afternoon / am in the diSpen-
sary. My honest convictions are that
every precautiOn is used in the dis
pensary. No set of men could have
been more careful and earnest. They
have been cautioned by Mr.. Bachelor
as to sales to minors repeatedly. On
Saturday afternoons l try to assist in
looking over the crowd so as to keep
from sales being made to minors.
There is not a day that some minors
are not turned down. | do not be-
lieVe man in the diSpenSary has sold
knowingly to a minor.
On cross examination: My duties do
not require me to stay in the dispen-
| sary. l did not know one of the men
| who testified today and know moth
| ing of sales to them.
Here Mr. W. b. Jones stated that
| if desired he would at a later meeting
present more witnesses in the line Of
minors and drunkards, and offered
| the affidaVits. Mr.. w. Il. Snow stated
that no one would deny that liquor
lon1 81 hut hot tnS
| timony had been offered to show that
caution had been used.
| Then the parties who had been re-
| ferred to as habitual drunkards were
announced as to be given a hearing,
| but they had disappeared, it being
| later stated that one was in the city
| lookup drunk and that the others
| had departed.
Here Mr.. r. n Simms, counsel for
| the dispensary, spoke and said that it
was hardly possible to avoid sales to
minors or to drunkards, but that the
| latter was not prohibited by the law.
He had never heard of a bar-keeper
! who was able to keep from selling to
| minors at times. 1t is the duty of
the committee to say if sales have
1 been made to minors, and if this was
| knowingly or without precaution. Mr..
/ A E. Glenn, of the committee, here
| asked if the purpose of the charges
was not to show that the dispensary
! is not "a moral institution" To this
Mr.. Simms replied that there was no
claim that it was q moral institution,
but that it was more moral than the
unlimited sale of liquor in licensed
I bar-roOmS.
Here Mr.. w. B. Jones declared that
ii would be proved that the dispensary
is far more immoral than the sa-
looms.
At this time another witness was
examined, this being Fred Miller, pre-
scented as one of the habitual drunk
ards to whom Whiskey was sold by
the dispensary. His testimony was:
Fred Miller. 1 sometimes drink to
excess. l have bought in the dispen-
sary while 1 was drunk. On cross
examination. I was not staggering
drunk. l have been refused liquor
in the dispensary when l was drunk.
Mr.. Bachelor has talked with me and
asked me to quit it.,
| In response to Mr.. Snow: A man
don't necessarily have to stagger to
show he was drunk. / was drunk
but knew what l as doing, and did
not stagger. 1 could think and could
| change money. On the redirect eX-
animation he stated: / can't say /
|
| Bachelor has ordered me out many
| times before the time of the charges
against the dispensary.
Here Mr.. Jones stated that others
on his list of "habitual drunkards
to whom sales had been made and
whom he desired to present at another
meeting We're Henry Johnson, Buck
Buffalo, Connie Perry, Jim NOVEL; and
| Harris Perry. with others.
Then ensued a discussion as to the
| charges to be investigated at the next
| meeting. Mr. SNOW for the committee
said that the 100 per cent profit charge
could be investigated by the commit
tee and it's accountant. Charge No.
IA, as to selling to drunkards was
agreed upon as to have another hear
ing, and the following charges:
4. That certain brands of whiskey
handled by the dispensary are shown
preference over other brands. This in
buying and selling.
9. That the law of cleanliness is
not observed by the dispensary in
hot h