Perth Amboy evening news., 1905-12-09
RYAN WOULD
NOT TELL ALL.
of ]. H. Hyde'S Equit-
able Stock TeStifieS Before
the Committee.

NEW YORK, Dec. 9.-Thomas f.
Ryan put himself in contempt of the
legislative insurance committee by re
fusing, on the advice of counsel, to an
swer all. questions bearing upon n con
yersation had with Edward II. Harri-
man when Hartman sought to break
into a share of the Ryan purchase of
Equitable stock.
The committee has all the powers of
a court. In fact, it represents the high
est court in the state.
Under protest Ryan admitted that a
few days or the day after he had pur-
chased Hyde's Equitable stock Harri-
man had asked to share in the owner
ship.
81 declined" said Ryan. ~ didn't
want Mr.. Hartman or any n else
who had anything to do with the big
insurance companies in any way to be
in this matter with me"
Hughes pressed for the reasons which
Hartman advanced to be permitted to
become a partner of Ryan.
Ryan said he didn't think he should
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ton.
Paul d. Cravath, Ryan's personal
counsel, advised the witness not to an
swer unless he wished to do so.
"Why did you invest $4,000, 900 in
stock which you Immediately handed
over to trustees and from which you
could get no more than Z per cent?
asked Hughes.
Il thought | was doing a great public
service" answered Ryan slowly. Il
believed at the time and believe o
that if the Equitable had gone into the
hands of a receiver this country would
have seer a most tremendous panic,
the worst it had ever KNOWN"
Ryan described the conditions OBJ
tanning at the time he bought the Equi-
table by saying that he had great inter-
ests at stake which might have been
sacrificed.
The Hyde stock, added it's present
master, was paid for by his check for
50, 100000.
And here follows the examination:
viii you state, Mr.. Ryan, what led
you TO make the purchaser"
Il had very large interests that We're
sure to be affected seriously by any
disturbance in the financial situation
or confidence in New York or any dis
aster that might come. | saw in the
virtual certainty of a receivership of
the Equitable Life such a disaster i'm
pending unless the fractional differences
in the company among the directors
and the management of the company
should be radically changed. To avert
this and to prevent the frightful losses
that would occur from the violent
breaking up of the Equitable, not only
to the policy holders, but to the finan-
cial community at large-myself as
WE'LL thought that some one ought to
undertake the business. My theory
about success in America is that a
man is not judged so much by what he
has as he is by what he does, and this
seemed to me to be a thing worth do
ing. My first idea was to get together
Il number of policy holders who would
take this company out of the hands in
which it was going to destruction and
give it a clean management, economical
and efficient, and restore its prosperity
for the benefit of all honest interests.
| soon concluded that the amounts that
could be obtained from d~isinterested
people-people who had no axes to
grind-would be very small, so l con
cluded to do it myself"
1t is said that District Attorney Je-
rome has been requested by the legisla-
tive investigating committee to insti-
tute proceedings to punish Mr.. Ryan
for his refusal to answer questions adj
dressed to him by Mr.. Hughes, counsel
for the committee.
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