Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1905-03-27

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With Senators Dickey and Achi az
inQuisitors, the Pinkham investigation
was continued In the Senate chamber
Saturday night. President Of the
Board Of Health Pinkhsm conducted
his own case, directing such searching
questions upon the witnesses that sew
eral times q smile Of satisfaction play
ed around his mouth at their answer,
and once. when Representative Fer
nandez attempted to evade one Of the
keen queries. he repeated 1t Ave times
and finally forced an answer. W. 8.
Fleming sat behind Pinkhsm, but took
no part in the discussion beyond sug-
costing q few questions to him.
The audience was small. Several
members Of the House were present,
Superintendent ]. d. Mcveigh among
them. At one time Achi wished to call
Mcveigh to the witness stand. Pink.
ham objected. and Mcveigh was not
called.
Rep. Fernandez was the star witness
Saturday night. His examination took
nearly an hour. Pinkhams questions
were directed toward trying to elicit
from Fernandez his opinion OF the 70.
sponsibility for various happenings on
the Molokai trip. Other witnesses call,
ee were David Motley, David Carter
and Pauloki. all Of whom were Ques-
toned about what they knew Of the
non-segregation at the leper settle
ment. Rep. Warehouse and Harry 4.
Murray we're also examined on tho
same subject.
After telling how he went from the
landing to Supt. Mcveigh's house. stay.
ing there about an hour, David Motley.
the first witness called, said that he
then went to his brothers house, shook
hands with him. and remained about
an hour. His permit allowed him to
go to the corral, but he saw no police.
man and no one told him not to 90 at
large. Lepers were kept In line away
| from visitors going up to Mcveigh's.
On examination by Senator Dickey.
Motley showed that he did not know
what the corral was. had not been
near 1t. Testified that some lepers had
refused to shake hands.
Who Responsible.
Pinkham-"who let the visitors Oh
the KinauY
Achi-"By the permits given them
the going ashore doesn't matter"
Pinkham-"The point wish to make
is that somebody was responsible for
them going to shore at ALL"
Motley further stated that Capt.
Clarke refused to take the responsible
ity Of passengers going ashore. His
permission to 90 ashore was by the
permit and in the way Senator Dow
sett spoke-"If anyone wishes to 20
ashore. they take the responsibility on
their own shoulders" Saw no Homo
lulu officers at landing-did see local
officers. They warned him against
touching lepers. Saw no contact Of
lcprous and clean on wharf. Stated
that the Board Of Health had put Wis
itors on honor. and that those who
touched the leprous virtually broke
their word. No one had offered to con-
duct him to his brothers house. Took
responsibility for mingling with lepers
on his own shoulders.
David Carter's testimony was along
almost exactly the same line. After
landing and lunching. had gone to
brothers house. drove around with
him, etc. No one had changed the per-
NIT allowing him to 90 to the. corral
only. Witness said with tears In his
eyes that he had kissed his brother
about q hundred times-he couldn't
help It. Didn't know whether Pink.
ham saw him or not. Under exam.
nation by Pinkham. he said In his
opinion turning the boat around at the
wharf and going back into the surf
would have endangered life. Under.
stood that his authority for leaving
Kinau had come from Senator Dow
sett.
Pauloki was the next witness. Tes-
tilted as to going to brothers house,
and mingling with lepers. No one had
told him not to do so.
II. z. Murray testified that he saw
no ofiicers directing the visitors to Nc
Weighs compound. On examination
by Pinkham testified that on the
steamer he had heard Of the danger
OF landing. Senator Dowsett, he un-
derstood. had taken some Of the re-
sponsibility for this. Thought that tho
leper who helped the boats to land at
the breakwater was needed, otherwise
life would have been risked In landing.
He had forgotten HIS pass on the boat.
but Senator Achi had offered to give
him another. In case he couldn't land,
but 1t was not needed.
Fernandez on Responsibility.
Rep. Fernandez was next called. He
had gone ashore at Waikolu with Reps.
Coelho, Long and Mr.. Kearns, the
health committee stenographer. Did
not consider that committee had charge
OF the trip, except as to transportation
arrangements and permits, Did not