The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1905-06-07
Observation-Disclosures
SIR THOMAS HAS THREE DE.
SIGNERS IN THE FIELD.
Between Them Linton Hope, Alfred Myine
and Arthur Payne Arc Ready 70 Cope
with Old or New Rules-Royal Ulster
Yacht Club May Soon Challenge.

Between Them Linton Hope, Alfred My1ne
and Arthur Payne Arc Ready 70 Cope
with Old or New Rules-Royal Ulster
Yacht Club May Soon Challenge.
sir Thomas Upton Is home again from his
trip TO Ceylon and has devoted some time
already TO Americas CUP affairs. When he
vent away early In the winter he had arranged
for Linton Hope. Alfred Mylne and Arthur
Payne to prepare designs and models for a
challenger for tho Americas CUP. 80 that he
might be able ito compare the ideas Of thes .
three naval architects on his return. and
decide AZ soon As possible which boat would
be the hest to try to lit the cup with.
These plans and models have been prepared,
ard Sir Thomas and his friends are now busy
making up their minds which will be the
challenger. At present nothing has been
settled. Each model has its good points.
mad much will depend on the rules which are
to govern the next series OF races. Sir
Thomas hns said that he would be content to
nvht it cut on the old lines that Is. to challenge
again under the rules Of measurement that
governed the former series In which Sir
Thomas had challengers
These rules produce racing machines pure
and simple, such as the Reliance, and Sir
Thomass advisers have tried to influence him
10 ask the New York Yacht Club for race
under It's new rules. Sir Thomas did write
10 tne CluD eOul0 tlIuc ueV Shd ooA0O ~ ~
would consider a challenge under the now
rules, but was told that the club did not
cross bridges until 1t came to them and that
when definite proposition was received
from some club the New York Yacht Club
would give it's answer.
At that time the new rule Of the club was
somewhat of an experiment. 1t has now
been tried In several classes and Is winning
friends all the time, 40 that IL is thought that
Club would a orr n
modification Of the applications OF It's rules
1t would probably want to make some agree
ment that the rule should not apply to boats
already built. The new rule as 1t stan de
would bar the Reliance and Constitution.
because it limits draft to IS feet. and these
boats exceed that draft. The club would
mot bs Rs G on to se shsf a would
doubtless agree to racing under it's new rule
il the rule should be made to apply only to
smenabie to the rules only as far as the meas;
urcment OF displacement. beam. length and
sail area is eoncgsrnned: alan. u,u ds,.,d
on I the showing that the Brltomarte viii make
ss1%ss a ss sy 1 1ed Sns to meet is
thc Fl" HerreshefY ' boat sonya Unfortunately.
the sonya lost her mast dur!nS tuning aS up
shape il Mylne can beat Herreshotf in the
50 foot class it is more than likely that no VIII
get the OrdeT lot tne new cHaieunstT; 1is
model il rather extreme In type, and as he has
been very successful in the smaller classes,
those from ffty-two, feet and under. he has
hosts of friends on the other side who would
like to see him pushed to the front.
Linton Hope is the best man on the other
side for small boats and his, models are OF
the freakish order He has desi gned boat
OF the extreme scow, type. and. If the old
rules are to govern the next series OF races
his boat stands a good chance of being Sc
lected She is a boat OF moderate draft,
good beam and long overhangs and spreads
larger sail area, than any boat that has
Arthur Payne has turned out a boat for
the new rule This model was prepared in
view of the action that has been taken BY
the British Yacht Racing Association asking
the New York Yacht Club to confer with
committee of that association IN order to
frame an International rule. Sir Thomas
Upton had much correspondence with Arthur
Payne. and Mr.. Payne has turned out boat
that would have little chance under the
old rule but would be dangerous in rule
where beam is controlled by actual measure
or measurement, This. boat would conform
to the present rule OF the New York and
other American clubs.
Tie fact that Sir Thomas turned to Payne
for boat of his type and that the late George
l. Watson advised against his trying again
that Sir Thomas will soon ask for race
under the present rules and that the applica-
ton will be made through the Royal Ulster
Yacht Club In the event OF the club de-
clLning to accept a challenge under its new
rules bir Thomas will challenge under the
Yacht Club will hear from the Royal Ulster
Club soon and then things will get busy in
Americas Cup affairs.