New-York tribune., 1905-11-17

Only When he nl2Ge ms drG6la TIC deciaiA-
aion regarding the faisfty or the HIDE charge.
did he actually betray his enotion. He was ae-
4companicd by his counsel Edward Lauterbach.
hi. examination lasted nearly TWO hours. His
testimony in fun follows:
o.-Gorernor oden evidence has been received
Which "1en yoa has against the Merean de Trust Com
oany Nlll you please state the Il tcas pereaaad,g
noNiedges sse wei would pref r state the
whole Transaction leading up 10 the setueIneht'
Mr. UnterryerIf may be perm stsd r T. we abe abe
s6ipsuding Is the origin 1g that Of
ss he somSea viii fas has
1aE outside OF the sgmase s1soo nf oi he Better be
l,sade 70 Mr. Hughes. We will rely upon ME.
I Snternyer-i az suggest counsel Il anything Inf
all is within the legitimate line Oh rauifS VIM
Mr. HughesI will state this; IL + 5ent eenTe of the
clam should be presented the s3nnat5ee @ nit & py
1ysr3SE e odes Attention 10 the TACT ma
which concerns the eonin.,e INV ,aIi,ief influences or
pressure brought TO bear upon me @ ce y settle
The witness-There was not .s..,,.r vo,, had
any information with regard TO the re oa
fbe e CHATTER N lhe Of Se Mercantile Company? A
5neT S5 IL aTsea Tf sae you Of it Al
sore oFrom l Whom did you get the informstion2
AEoh various people as to the propriety Of the
INTRODUCTION OF such a measure
:. D5 voy suggest its introduction? A.-No.
q Did You request its Introduction? Al sa"
SIC o@bd You state that you objection; TO
she Introduction Of the measure: A-'At lhe Time
u soMTo was 1"SEG9? whom? keoh to any who asked
oIwhat was the ground for that action or . ap,
proval? Asn1ply because the scaaaa n the
peoples mind and was claimed h fna5 hebind fhe ftee
or sixteen corporal lions. every one Of them mao haa
been insolvent and u vas Ma Nae' Work. Should be
oTWas there any suggestion of an ngestlssf a.
sue n nneasuree A-This bin intended for an
BIZ in form aRpears d t9 e svs sp9csass pFSsifss
't-e That Satis was tie form You understood it to
you have iatesysw wis FfsB EsEara aitS se
reference 10 its Introduction in the Assembly,
Al don't recall thar did, did n regard to its in
1rodueton IN the senatef NY fA n sd efg BEEN intro
oo you recall any members of the legislatures re
such a bin and the propriety Of such a biilf A
sd the eananzg Time Sqt so Penss!os a against
'he MSSsn'S was the suit against Mercantile
srrlst Company begun? A-Auglst os,ct,o, tsos; n,
,b d b N {6e fRe senate en t or IN the Asernb March
3 have wat ySq s Resgea opaRy to 9e AI had sold
every dollars worth of my hodings 5a IN tne ohiee"
tPeS qASd s' bow did you sell il? AAt public ane-
in the city W Of New Hork for tbatq AForty-
eight thousand six hundred and eighty-nine dollars
enc 6M6af s7i fe Was your total investment? my
total investment from March H. including interest,"
oEwhat was your loss the sale Of the heb bonds? R,
sdred and eighty-two dollars and thrty-sx cents
NO MORE INTEREST IN BONDS
Q-pid you directly indirectly buy any Of the
In these bonds or any other bonds connected with
the shipbuildng people from the date OF March
o1Was this sale made in the anticipation Of
A-No. sir; il was made because felt there would i
be matters Of LEGISLATION come % up aaa rv 1e OF
indirectly In the bonds.
ectien agsi9st the MsTsantile ere Trust cOmpany9
the state Of s1e prior d9 to thai 1s
Al may have; ! DO mot I kRgw Mr. Morgan
with rs regaEd SG1 e 'Hs the natter aak a!si No
Or Mr.. schwab? Al had adv with TIM Mr. Sc sehwab. 11rb
9Was as MAS IN hhat the Spring e0 Of 1872 se e
9-Before the spring? @ AnYes SIS sir; ,+.r ..a ,n
EGa Of aad the
parent? At was in the hands Of the receiver = =
the city Of SeW3York that Tetaiatory measures Of
a.-That any measures threatening the Merean-
tie Trust GOmPsny @ f or aHy one else WSaa be akep
Did you ever make any such statement to Mr.
6sF ays tsst vi Sa boaa MD
3e b naiiencn ia % ~ = nroc,Ts settiene, % of Wour
claim against the Mercantile Trust Company? A.
Nc sir
o-Did you ever have any interview with any
one else with the idea that IL should reach Mr.
Hartmann A--No sir
Q.-Then understand your testimony is that
you never. directly Indirectly. used any threat
no procure settlement of that suit? A--No, sir.
REASSURED MR. HYDE.
Q-Was the legislation which was proposed by
Senator Amber in any way topic of conversation
Never, exceptng-yes, when had talk with Mr.
Hyde. he spoke Of it, and told him. no matter
what the outcome of settlement might be,
whether l should into the courts or this case
should be settled by the Mercantile Trust Company,
that there no fear of retaliatory legislation
Odd YOU tell him that you disapproved of it?
A.--That IS what / said.
Q.-Eiad your attitude changed in any way from
what il in the spring? A--No, sir
Q-ffad anything occurred 20 change your mind
TO the propriety of the Introduction OF such
measures A--Yes. sir.
Q-What that? A-The fact that the ba ase
calumny which Mr. Hyde uttered here had been
circulated I'm the papers, and called Senator AM
bier IN. and ] said. desirable / believed the
connection with the shipbuilding matter was of
such a character that It would be better for him
drop this legislation.
Q.-When did that interview take place? A.
Eoule time during the session.
Q.-Of 1901? A--Of 1904?
G.-The bill introduced March 81 1904,
according 10 the record? Al do not recall the
date.
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