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Church, does wrong to a soul on earth
God will punish him for H.
Mr.. Tayler-treading)
There need be no fear that the Lord
win neglect to hold His servants who
lead or preside 20 strict aCCOunta-
bnlty for their conduct He has made
ample provision, so that every per-
son who rs accused OF wrong, however
high his position In the Church may
be, can be brought TO trial before "a
proper tribunal No necessity win ever
arise. therefore for men TO take upon
themselves IN their individual capa-
city the right to Judge and condemn the
Lords servants
Is that your Wow OF ~
senator Suoot- My view Us as stated
FIRST there that there Is not q person
IN the church I do not care who, from
the President TO the humbIcst one, as
to whom there Is not a way TO aaud.c
him Tor any wrong he may DO.
The Chairmanl did not understand
the question. / suggest that IL be read
again,
Senator Fopker-Do not rc1d Il
again II Is quite long.
Mr. Tayler-I viii read the latter
part " IT, and / ask Mr. Smoot whcth-
er he believes that this is the view
that should be taken Of the Priest
hood.
mo necessity win ever arise, there
fore, for men 10 take uuoh themselves
IN their individual capacity the right
to judge and condemn the Lords sery-
ants"
Senator Smooth one Of the Lords
servants should do n wrong to me
would condemn him, and / would bring
him 10 trial just the same as / would
the most humble man I'm the Church,
ana there are rules in the Church for
doing IT,
Mr. Tayler-But you would go to him.
would you?
Senator Smooth would try first to
settle It with him. the same as |
would with any other man.
Mr. Tayler-But you would not con-
denim him otherwise than by going to
him and stating that II he did not make
II right YOU would bring him before
the proper Church authority?
Senator Smoot-Of course | would.
Mr. Tayler-Is that the only way you
would do ~
senator Smoot-No; | would condemn
him, and II It was not made right,
would file my complaint.
Mr., Tayler-Would you make pub
lie condemnation of hlm2
Senator Smooth he did wrong
against me-
Mr.. Tayler-without going to the
man?
Senator Smoot-No; ! would go TO the
man. According 10 the rules Of the
Church, / would first go to him, and
then
Mr.. Tayler--You must go 10 him?
Senator SmoOt-Not TO him or any
one else In the church Mr.. Tayler
Mr. Tayler-I read from the Journal
of Discourses, by Brigham Young.
Mr. Worthington-What page?
Mr. Tayler-Page 49, where, amongst
other things, he said
mo man need Judge me. You know
nothing about IT, whether | am sent
or not furthermore, II is none Of your
business, only to listen with open ears
10 what is taught you, and serve God
with an undivided heart"
Senator Smoot--That would never do
today, I do not think that Brigham
Young ever said that under any IN
spiraton OF the Lord, II he did say it,
Mr. Tayler-You have no doubt Of
his saying It? 1t Is published In the
Journal Of Discourses,
Senator Smoot-There are quite a
number OF things In the Journal Of Dis
courses which are not accepted by the
Church.
Mr.. Tayler-I understand that, but
you believe II 10 have been saidP
Senator Smoot--As I said before our
people are called up from the audience
to speak. Nobody knows when he Is GO
ing to be called on. There Is no special
preparation for any sermon. A man
gets up and speaks, and sometimes /
think he says things that perhaps he
would not say under calmer consdera-
ton. | know men sometimes speak
under the spirit Of inspiration, az II
We're. At other times It is a laborci
effort on their part, and they can hard
ly express themselves,
Mr. Taylor-No, what do you think
about the spirit that moved Joseph r.
Smith Dec, 8, 1900, when
Mr.. WorthingtOn- What page?
Mr.. Tayler-Page 4jS, When he said
this:
81 believe In union. / believe that
except we are one In those things which
pertain TO the building up OF Zion we
are not Gods children. But ! want
TO say to you that we are not one
There Is not that union amongst us that
should exist, Sometimes when President
SNOW tells brother what he would like
him TO do, he at once turns on his heel
and says that comes In contact with
his manhood and his Independence, and
he prefers TO follow tbe bent OF his own
mind rather than to take such coun-
sell"
Senator smoot-That man has that
perfect right
Mr.. Tayler-Who Joseph Smith or
the other man?
Senator Smoot-No; the man TO COM
plain. He has a perfect right TO COM
plain.
Mr.. Tayler -Thcn Joseph Smith was
not speaking the VIII Of the Church?
Senator Smoot--Oh. he was speaking
thus. That &c was the wish OF the au-
thorities OF tho Church, and the Church
ltselfmore than likelythat there should
be unity among the memhesr OF the
Church, and which | believe would be
a very good thing not only In the Nor
mon Church. but In any other church
upon the earth,
Mr.. Taycr-And that a man ought
not 10 turn on his heel, when President
Snow speaks 10 him, and say that CON
flcts with his manhood and indopend-
ence?
Senator Smoot-G do not say that. If
he felt like that, that Is what he has "a
right TO do
MT. IaEler-Anu ne continued IN THIS
way
THE question In my mind Is this:
Who Is to Judge who Is the good man
and the wise man? II you leave me to
Judge | say one man, II you leave
Brother Brigham 10 Judge, he may say
another man or. II We leave Il 10 tho
people to Judge one says this is the
wise man. and another says that Is the
wise man. The question with mo is:
Am 7 In a frame OF mind What when I
get the word from the Lord ms to who
is the right man, viii obey II, no mat
ter II II does come contrary TO my con-
victions or prcdllectons?"
Senator Smoot-I think that Is what
he meant-that his Judgment as 10 the
good man may be one mine may be am
other, Just as he says there; but n the
Lord should speak 10 him and tell him
that It was such and such a man. then
bn fu.t oh Ia, I