The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1905-03-26


THE TESTIMONY.
David Motley. the first witness. be-
ing sworn said he went to Molokai
last Saturday night. He had a per-
init from the Board of Health to go
with the Legislature and stop at the
corral. I'VE did go into the corral for
a little while and then went up to the
superintendent place with the crowd.
Stayed at McVeigh's about an hour.
Then went to the luau for about an
hour. Went thence to see my brother.
VIM Motley, where l stayed about an
hour. He is a leper has a house there.
/ shook hands with my brother. His
wife was with him. She is not leper.
Saw many people outside the corral.
Yes. they mingled with the lepers.
While at the Settlement nobody chang
ed my permit to let me go at large.
Examines a permit) Yes my per-
init was worded the same way. When
we arrived at the harbor Mr.. Pinkham
was not there. Had no conversation
with anybody about changing my per-
init.
To Dickey-Know where the corral is,
it is supposed TO be at the landing. 1t
is a building: looks like a warehouse
from the landing straight up.
Dickey-I think you have things
mixed up.
! witness at this described his moves
ments. making it clear that he had
been through the corral
To Pinkham-Capt Clarke was in
authority on the Kinau. tAchi object
ed to the line OF questioning as ir-
relevant, holding that the whole mat
ter hinged on the permit. He gave
way to argument on the point, when
Pinkham said to. save time he would
admit there was some contact between
well and sick.) Capt. Clarke, the wit
ness resumed. did not decline any re-
.SponsibiIity or assume any regarding
people leaving the steamer. Senator
Dowsett stated that any persons go
ing ashore would have TO take the re-
s,ponsibility on themselves. l took the
responsibility on myself to go into the
boat. In my judgment Capt. Clarke
had authority to recall a boat after
it left the steamer before it reached
the landing. Saw no Honolulu officers
at the landing Did see Kalaupapa Of
icers there-the ones with white
badges.
was told by these officers about
not going into contact with the lepers
The corral is about rs feet long and
90 feet wide and 1 should judge would
hold a thousand people. tLaughtero
saw no preparations at the landing Tor
a luau. Speaking for myself the Board
of Health was not responsible Tor he
contact of visitors with the lepers
hold [ was responsible.
Pinkham-It is that we did not club
the people back. We acted the gentle
men to you people, didn't We?
Witness-Yes.
fDickey objects. on the score of time
to the line of examination Ihe mat
Ter being elected would better come In
a personal statement from Mr.. Pink
ham as the witness was not an eSo
pert.)
With a few more questions, the WITT
ness was released.
DAVID CARTER TESTIFIES.
David Carter, sworn and examined by
Dickey. told about receiving corral
rernit Met his brother at the corral,
staved there about five minutes, shook
hands with his brother. went with him
to the warehouse, where he asked his |
brother TO go outside as he wished to
have a talk with him His brother |
asked him TO ride with him in his |
brake ND to McVeigh's, but he did not |
like TO do so as he (witnesS) was WITH
friends Finally he consented ana |
drove up. Went to the luau- his
brother did not so inside with MN. |
After the Iuau drove around the set
tlement streets with his brother, Vlsl'-
ing the different homes and otner
points of interest. Went to see little |
house On the beach where his brother
had boats At last was driven down
to the landing and went aboard the |
steamer.
did not see any restrictions on peo-
pie while L was there. Saw some no
noluIu policemen. One was IN MT. NC
Weighs house where he sat down
while and then went out. He did not
seem to act like a policeman on duty.
To Achi-My permit was not chang"
ed I passed it over to an officer Yes,
I kissed my brother about hundred /
times, did so at many places in the
Settlement.
To Pinkham-Don't know whether |
the landing was crowded or not; 1T was |
pretty rough when we got there.
Q. Do you think the officials would