Los Angeles herald., 1905-02-01

VINO IS TO pay the expense OF hiflHl
the detectives?"
"I don't know"
Grange then said in answer to ques
tions that he had a conference toda!
with District Attorney Seymour o
Sacramento. A peal Of laughter wen
around the crowded senate chambe
when Grange said: II did this work o
laying the trap for the senator's. ant
I did not know my thunder was TO bt
stolen by another company as givei
by the papers. I was willing to los,
the money for exposure, but not foi
blackmail."
Answering further interrogations
| Grange said:
! Il passed the money to a man i'm th'
rotunda of the Mills building wher
McNab gave a nod toward the righ
person"
81 presume that Jordan came to mt
because he knew me personally" ad.
mitted Grange.
"Did you reprove Jordan in any
way?" asked Gator
mo"
Determined to Trap 5Iaokmailer
Ibid you think Jordan was doing
wrong?"
"1 certainly did but I determined tc
trap the first blackmailer who APP
preached me-"
do you know whether the money
passed beyond the hands of Jordan?' ~
81 do not"
How is 1t you did not look after the
evidence of the trapping the senators %
asked Gator
II knew McNab would do that"
what led you to suppose that the
senators were blackmaiers ?"
when Jordan approached me with
his proposition"
"In what shape was this money you
handed the unknown party in the Mills
bulding?" asked Senator Simpson.
I'm $50 and 500 bills" answered
Grange.
How many times did Jordan call on
you?"
Three times at my home"
iCiu SOd MAJ N lIC DlllS DtlOlt yOu
put them in the envelopes?" interro-
gated Senator Ralston. 4f
mo, 1 did not" answered Grange.
Gavin McNab, next took the stand
He reiterated the statements made by
Mr.. Grange.
Grange stated that Mr. Jordan had
approached him. said the witness
Jordan had told him that all build
ing and loan associations except the
Continental could secure immunity. If
it would cost $4,000.
Discuss Plans for Trap
Grange and / then discussed the
method of laying the trap, and we
agreed to secure Mr.. Tichner, the de-
tective.'
McNab told of securing a man to get
the money from Grange in the rotunda
of the Mills building. He said he had
he proven that Jordan had got away
with the money, but that he had
passed it over as per agreement.
when Tichner was first sent to
Jordan's residence in Sacramento a
mistake was made in taking down Jor-
dams residence address," stated Me-
Nab. when Jordan was finally found
he went on a strike, declaring he would
not take cent less than $780,
In answer to a question, McNab
stated that the man to whom the
money was passed in the Mills build
ing was Moses Heinz, a deputy as
SCISSOR of San Francisco.
McNab then displayed key which
he declared Jordan had given to Itch
ner with instructions that the latter
was to go into his room at 1116 Seventh
street, Sacramento, as freely as he
pleased during the transaction.
Fremont Older Iestifies
Fremont Older, the managing editor
of the Bulletin, next took the stand. At
torney Copeland objected to Older's
testimony on the ground that it was
hearsay evidence.
The first | heard of this affair was
a week ago last Sunday night" said
Older, when l was telephoned to by
Gavin McNab. He wanted to know ii
| could have $225O in my possession the
next day to be used in trapping mem
bers of the Legislature in blackmail-
ing scheme. l took the numbers of the
bills and exchanged the packages OF
money with a man who came to me
with like amount of money.
The man came TO my Office two
times" said Older. 1.-THE first time we
exchanged $3.50. The next time 500
was exchanged by us, The first time
/ did not know who he was. and then
the second time he announced himself
as Heinz"
Older repeated that he published the
story of the alleged bribery merely as
a matter of news.
At 11;15 o'clock Gavin McNab stated
he had three other witnesses whom he
would like to have examined.
n "A RohArf Called