The Washington times., 1905-05-28
BUFF AND BLUE
OEBATERS WIN
Georgetown Defeated in De-
Gliding Contest.
ARGUMENTS VS.. ORAT0RY
Blue and Gray Failed to Overcome
Burden of PToof-Decision
Unanimous.

Although overwhelmed on the football /
field and defeated in the annual base |
ball game, the Buff and Blue OF George
Washington waved triumphant last
night over the Blue and Gray OF |
Georgetown IN the arena OF debate. |
when three brilliant young lawyers |
from the former vanquished their op- !
ponents in the annual intercollegiate |
debate,
1t was the most interesting ever held |
between the two institutions. Up 10
last year Georgetown had signaily de- |
feated their rivals in every debate
The oae last night was the third of
the SERIES To win 1t meant the hon
or OF capturing two out OF three. For
months the three men represent
George Washington and Georgetown
have been preparing for the contest,
Cheered by Students.
The young orators met in CASTOR
Hall, Georgetown College, to lay be-
fore the board Of judges the prepara-
ton OF many hours of study. Before
crowded house. and amid the cheers
of hundreds eff fellow students. the
young men delivered their arguments,
and then awaited the decision.
1t was for George Washington.
II may be we'll said that Georgetown
had the best Of IL from an oratorleal
standpoint All three OF her debaters
proved to be trained speakers of abili-
ty. While the George Washington men
were also good speakers, they showed
themselves to be the better debaters.
They presented an exhaustive array of
authorities. and demonstrated that
there was not G single point which
they had not studied deeply and
clearly.
Plan Of Debate.
The debate was conducted on the plan
| followed by Yale. Harvard, and other
Dig universities. Each speaker was al
lowed fifteen minutes in which 10 pre-
| sent his general argument, and a. ter
| all had spoken FIVE minutes was allowed
| for rebuttal This caused the debate 10
| be drawn out TO considerable length.
bat was greatly enjoyed by the audi
ence.
A fne musical program also added TO
the interest, Haley's Orchestra and the
George Washington GIee Club rendering
| selections.
| The question debated was Resolved.
That the. maintenance Of the open
shop suhserves the better interests of
the. la1oring classes' open shop Was
interpreted to mean any shop IN which.
union and ronunion men work to-
gcther. THIS question WIS submitted by
George washington, und Georgetown
selected the affirmative.
How They Argued.
William Z. X. Geegnan opened the de-
| bate for Georgetown. ana his argument
was III large sense the foundation Of
| the Georgetown position. He argued
/ that the majority OF the laboring classes
are nouunion, and that the "elosed
shop would mean one OF two things
| There would be Discrimination IN
| favor of union workmen. or else non
union men would be forced to join hc
union. This. he argued. would weaken
the union
| The second speaker fog Georgetown
WAS Charles II. English who maintained
| that non-union sentiments were abso-
1utely essential 10 the welfare Of
unionIsm; that opposition was the life
| Of the union. Therefore, the open
shop" was the best thing for it.
| Henry X. Quinn closed the main ar
gunent for the Blue and Gray, and his
speech was a bitter attack on unions
as they now exist" He charged them
| With being responsible for ali the great
strikes, and that il they continued TO
act as they now do public opinion would
turn against them and cause their down
fail.
The Other Side
Robert Baxter Pharr opened for
George Washington. He defined the
various kinds OF shops" He pinned
the Georgetown men down TO the ques-
tion Of interests" and it waS on this
point that George Washington won the
debate. He said there was a great
deal Of difference between "a right"
and interests" Il have q right to
walk on one leg" BE said, but it might
not be 10 my interests to do so" He
showed that unions were rapidly in
creasing.
LEONE Bone took up the argument OF
the negative and read from many au-
thorities TO show that the union snoD
as compared with the open shop" had
done more to increase wages, decrease
hours OF labor. and TO bring about bet
| ter conditions generally.
Samuel Edelstein closed for George
Washington and devoted his time prin-
cipally TO the evils resulting from the
establishment OF the open shop" and
maintained that If il was established
generally IT would kill unionism He
cited cases Of how the establishment OF
the open shop had been followed by
reduced wages and increased hours of
labor.
Victory for - w. q.
The six speakers then took up their
main points in rebattaI speeches. and the
matter was then handed over 10 the
judges composed Of Director North. of
the Census: Judge A B. Hayes, and
Hon. {. Dana Durand. After being out
for fifteen or twenty minutes they
reached a decision.
| Director North, OF the Census Bureau
delivered the unanimous opinion OF the
Judges, which was 10 the effect that
on account Of the peculiar wording oi
. the question the Georgetown debateTs
had failed TO overcome the burden OF
proof, aad the debate was awarded Il
the negative.
: SERGEANT LYDIA WANTED
ON CHARGE OF LARCENY