Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1905-07-25
suggestion in the executive body of the

suggestion in the executive body of the
retirement association.
with the foregoing I'm view the questions
whether the retirement association has
accomplished all that could reasonably
have been expected of 1t, and If not, why it
failed, and In what particulars its methods
were wrong and insufficient; whether a new
association could profit better by the ex-
periences of the old one more than the old
one itself could and whether 1t is better at
this time to establish new. independent
association rather than unite heartily In
maintaining the old one in state of vigor-
Gus activity are resolved by your commit
| tee In favor of adhering to the original as
ISOLATION. subject to such reorg lniZation,
| il any, may after deliberation in general
| meeting be agreed upon, and il is earnestly
| recommended that that course be pursued"
The report and the resolutions having
| been adopted DR.. Jordan said there was
| only one way of meeting the demands of
| the report and that was by ten members
calling for general meeting. Chairman
Potter ruled DR.. Jordan out of order. ana
reSigning the chair to Mr. Perkins Neagle,
said:
There is only one way of bringing har
| mony out of chaos. | was never in favor of
two organizations. The idea is an anomaly.
| thought the meeting two weeks ago was
for reorganization of all associations. But
we must adhere to the classified service.
THE old association is national I'm char
acter. There are New York, Washington
and Philadelphia branches. L move we
change the name of our new organization
to the Washington Branch of the civil
Service Retirement Association"
This reused Secretary Buck, who, called
to order, maintained he was talking to the
motion. Mr.. Buck read prepared paper
as follows
swers which have just been read | want TO
give my views on behalf of others vitality
interested In the matter. There has been
no question that many members of the old
tfFN,, cd ard in hpir "A
believing so, some of us attended the last
annual meeting in May, an account OF
which you can see If you consult the Wash
ington Post of about May 22. All of the
old officers We're declared elected when
there were seventeen votes In a majority OF
those present against their election. When.
after wrangling some time, many of the
members having left the hail. a proxy vote
of go from New York city was counted for
the incumbents they were declared elected
No list of names had been given nor Gre
dentals that were valid. and. as the treas
urer states, no dues had been paid from
New York for more than year.
81 suggest to those who oppose the new
organization perusal OF the account OF
that meeting under the title of Hot Time
at Meeting Did that meeting and the ac-
ton there taken measure up In size to A
Square Deal for Every Man,?
rs it not likely that the President Will
invest any body of men who contemplate
vigorous intelligent labor and immediate re-
suits with all the power he has given the
old associatf ton. and will he not likely eX
tend that power now?
"Shall the formation of bill be pre-
vented by one or more members of an eN-
ecutive committee. who want a retirement
at three fourths or one-half pay. or any
special amount? And did not the re -elec-
ton of the old officers emphasize the fact
that there was some reason for wishing
continuance in office other than the inter-
ests of the public service
Cannot Include EVERYBODY
1--WE cannot include everybody" said Mr..
Potter How do we know that congress-
men would not put every old friend on the
employment list In order to have them re-
tired in two or three years.
Reused by the attack on the unclassified.
Mr. John B. Simmering of the navy yard
said: Some of the old soldiers have been
unable to pass a civil service examination.
and yet they risked their legs and lives.
President Roosevelt would not think of ig-
noring an old soldier In the navy yard.
They did not have college education, but
they fought for their country just the same.
The labor men Of the country will come in
a mass and protest against such legislation
as you propose. The President told me so
himself when I called on him two days
after his election. What trades do you
represent says he.
The mechanical trades said. 'Them's
the men 1 love-. he told Give me the
engine man and the farmer. This is class
legislation. and Congress won't listen to
that. The navy yard Will get the same as
the others. with the exception Of that incl
dent of the other day. when a certain man
from Boston protested against our getting
a half holiday because the navy yard there
did not get It,.
Begged for Silence.
Mr. Potter begged for silence. He said:
Let us include as many as we can. Let us
organize this new Washington branch Con-
slider the tired men In the service. Let us
forgive the recreant society that has failed
US so far and be the tail OF that dog. Let
us be a solid phalanx. Pretty soon our
energy will enable us to wag the dog and
when the President wants to put everybody
under civil service they will have chance
with the rest
Mr.. F. O'Donohue of the patent Office
rose to a point of order. This is entirely
out of harmony We have adopted the res
olutions of the committee of inquiry. As
understand it. the question is how to pro-
coed in accordance with that resolution.
and not a matter OF names DIR. Jordan.
in my opinion. had a proper solu ton of the
matter"
DIR. Jordan arose again to move his plan,
when Mr.. Potter demanded to be heard !
having already relieved Mr.. Neagle of the
chair. He called DR.. Jordan out of order
and was confronted by motion by Mr..
Neagie. who presented the following reso-
luton OF praise for President Starr of the
Civil Service Association:
Resolved. That we appreciate the diff
Guilty under which the United States Civil
Service Retirement Association officers
have labored: that we realize the impor-
lance and the value to our interests and the
results they have so far accomplished. and
that we thank them for their loyal, perse-
vering efforts In our behalf"
From that moment the widest confusion
reigned. The motion was carried and a
motion to adjourn put
Chairman Potter himself objected to a
and tod fxnA
be at the call Of the chairman He ruled
Mr. Biddes' motion to adjourn sine die out
OF order, and forgetting his own suggested