The evening world., 1905-11-21


campo ign fund ot 1896 by the Mutual
and Equitable7 A. could not tell any
thing about them at that time, for l
didn't have any record nor ! haven't
any record low. / didn't make any
record.
O. or 1902 A. As l said. they turned
the moneys over 10 me and | turned
IN ,m over to the State Committee.
O. Have you even been asked, Sena-
tor, on behalf OF any OF the insurance
companies, 10 Intervene In their favor
by reason OF such contributions? A..
Never In the world
q. In connection with matters OF leeis-
latlon Of the Insurance Department. A.
Never in the world.
Q. said on account OF such contrlbu-
tions. Have Sou ever been asked by
any insurance company TO In ervene in
their favor at all IN connection with
matters OF legislation A, They have
never asked me In the world
O. And you have never done anything
OF the kind7 A. have not.
Q. Was there any co-operatlon be-
tween you and Mr.. Bliss IN the effort
10 obtain contributions during the cam
palgn when both State and national
candidates went before the publlc7 A.
Not taat ] remember.
o. In last. autump-leOi. that is' A.
Not that l know Of, at least.
Ignorant Of Presidential Funds.
@. DO you know anything about the
Contribution OF, approximating, S0,OO
by the New York Life in the last Pres
ldentlal canpaig1% A. knew nothing
Q. or the contribution OF $4,000 by
the Equitable Life during the last cam
paign? A. / didn't know what they
had given: Z was never brought to
my attention at all.
@. am asked whether you desire
the committee to understand that your
relation TO contributions by insurance
companies began only ten wears ago.
A. would not say ten years ago, I
would not specify the date; but !
should think It was as mucn as ten
years ago.
@. Wasn't Il considerably longer
time than ten years ago when you be-
gan TO receive those contributions A.
II Is very possible II was bW ] can't
remember now, when / began receiving
contributions.
Q. Was 1t as long as twenty years
q. About 1885 or 1856 dld It begin7 A.
I donf remember; | can't remember
when II was.
Q. But you don't intend to be under
s.ood as fixing ten years as the abso'
lutte limit? A. No, sir.
q: 1t might be fifteen years or more'
A Yes. sir.
O. But these figures YOU have given
ne hold GOOD for whatever time II Tasg
A. Yes civ
What They Got In Return.
Q. And according TO your best recoG-
lection wouldn't these contributions ex-
tend over period as far back as 1885
A. l should think likely they wouldd, but
can't remember about IT,
q. We should be glad 10 know, SEN
ator, on what basis an insurance COM
pany Is justified In contributing 10 4
were justified in making contributions
while the eold Issue was at stake.
Q. TAXI. the course OF our State cam
paignsi OF course YOU are familiar with
them for many years, what has there
been In them which would Justify ar
insurance company In contributing Il
thS expense' A. Well, should moi
want 10 pass upon that.
q. IL you have any opinion OF course
we should be glad TO have il, but the
point want particularly 70 get at Ia
this, what suggestion was there q
the Insurance companies Of any duId
pro quo, what was the insurance com.
panies 10 get out OF the fact they had
made the contribution A. There wal
not any suggestion Of any sort.
q, What advantage could they
really HetF A. They got IL through
me as being connected with the
state Committee.
q. How would they get q through
youf "A. Well, they would sup
defend them AZ times When il
was nsces.sary' ! never had oc-
O. What would that extend 10; what
do you mean by defending them N oc-
casion made II necessary A. Well.
don't know
Support" Expected.
Q. What had you in mlnd in saying
thati 4. That they would expect me z
support them naturally ior anythlns
that they thought was right and they
q. And have they ever requested your
support In any matter? A. They never
have,
q, No company hasY A. No oompany
has ever asked my support
q. In what matters could you
properly give a company support
In return for such contribution
A. Well. ] don't know.
Q. I understood YOU 70 aay they wou.l
fend them; now, what class OF Dossbil
tiles had vOu IN u,lnd IN ~ ,,lna lhats