New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1905-10-19
'I must have done go"
What did you do with itf

What occasion did you nave 10 recelVe inc
money and pay 1T out for legal expenses
asked Mr. Hughes, indicating an Endorsement 10
this effect in Fieldss handwriting
NV answer would be the same, don re-
member" Again and again the witness reiter-
oto5 The amazing declaration of forgetfulness,
getting more nervous with each question, and
shifting and turning in his chair. Finally Mr..
Hughes blaadly asked how the witness had hap
nened 10 employ Mr.. Stanchfeld counsel
MIR. Lawrence suggested it," he answered
Mr. Rogerss marvellous failure of memory
caused considerable surprise, and there were
several whispered consultations between MT
Hughes and the members of the committee re-
garding some action later. He was finally eX-
cused to refresh his memory
TELLS OF THE ALBANY HOUSE.
Mr. Hughes then called William NJ. Carpenter,
who proved to be the star witness of the day
Mr., Carpenter testified that he had been in the
employ of the Mutual for the last seventeen
years He referred to the meeting with Fields
in Kingston early In the month. mention OF
which has been made. Mr.. Hughes then pro
duced voucher signed by Carpenter for Sl0o'
bearing Ffelds's recommendation for payment
and asked for an explanation Of the use of the
money. The stenog- aphic record on this point
follows;
Q.-what occasion had you 20 get the money zone
from the Mutua! Life for esal expenses A l i,
with the house maintained at Albany al NO OLD
oiow long has that house been n, maintained?
About four years by the Mutual Life: .i,oa
IT? AIR Fields directed me to take lease ana
l did so, and it has been renewed from year u
was the rental rental A Son!s Maintained by
you? A.-Yes.
Mr. Hughes then brought out by the witness
testimony that there had been a series of houses
in which in various years the Mutual Lie rep
resentative had been domiced during the leg1s-
lative session For the last ten years the wit
ness had been cognizant of this business lie
testified that he paid the rent, and that the
money came first from the Mutual Life ana
after that passed through Fieldss hands. Inc
household consisted, he declared. Of t1elcs' a
caretaker named Mullaney and his wife and SIS
ter. who was the cook. two children Of the Null
Ianeys and a butler named Butler.
Mr. Carpenter testified that Fields occupied
the house while the legislature was in session
and that at other times it was in charge OF the
caretaker, Mullaney. Mr.. Hughes then put in
a voucher for sos, signed NJ. Fl, Mullaney' Tor
full legal services to date" and another for
S275, for legal services to date" both paid by
the Mutual Life. The supplies for running the
house. MI Carpenter explained, were nearly all
purchased in Albany but were paid for by the
Mutual Life. Another voucher for $40 for
professional services" blue Pencilled law
was also identified as belonging to the Albany
house expenses. Mr.. Carpenter estimated the
annual expenses of the Albany establishment at
81 300 The wages he estimated. paid to vari-
GUS employees would bring the figure up to
50. 800 His own salary of $500 was paid al
most exclusively for work done in Albany. His
work was. apparently, 10 get copies of bills as
introduced in the legislature. keep file of them
and tell Mr. Fields about them.
Pressing this line of inquiry, Mr.. Hughes
opened up the home life of the establishment;
Q-who were among the most frequent visitors
bany? Al can say there were very few visitors
ODD YOU ever see Eugene wood7 Al DO not
recoIect Possibly have seen him IN the house
there? Al can say most OF my time was spent
Q0were You there in the eveninss7 Apart of
Did You ever see Mr. Dinkelspiel in the house?
Q@TEel Pc you 9a dfd frequently didn't your Al
Q-Wefe not MI Wood and MI Dinkelspiel there
That is fact
MCLELLAND LIVED THERE.
Q-Did you ever see Mr.. McCleIland there? A
Q.EWas he there frequently?2 Al might state
ON what sense a member of the householder
Ale resided there He slept there re,
Q,-Was that while he was in the Senator A
.QEW-ere. his expenses at the house paid by the
the hdase Pc pay h know ePe
Q.-You paid for all the supplies Of the house?
Q.-You never received any money from him?
Or on his behalfa A,-No. sir.
there at an Sts m %@S IT have answeTed no TRe
you said on his behalf I don't know as to that
-Q.-Yqu got the money from Mr., Fields? A.
Q.-Pid you ever see Mr.. Graney there? Yes
Q.-Was he ever a member OF the household?
Q,--When was he member of the household?
Der of the household, but it was during the year
one year when he was an Assemblyman and also
Odd you ever see Mr.. McCarren thereY A
Q-Do I understand that Mr. Graney was there
when be vas was, in the legislature in the same way
Q.That is, lived there during the session of the
o~And you never received any money from
him? A.-Not to my knowledge
his sSPp f M ne 6SSe sa e
know what he did with Mr. Fields. Mr. Fields
Hughes, sir, probably the reason for McClelland
E Rs9 og M 81 h 6b8s fe R
I believe it was at his Invitation that they were
Ooh. yes: they were long time friends of his
Ayes.
Q-Were they the Insurance Committee when
they were members of the legislature? Al don't
recoIlect the makeup of those committees. l would
have to refresh my memory on that.
the year 1887 A.-Mr. MoCIelland was member
in 1903
Ayes.
Q-Is the same true Of Mr. Graney? A-As far
as can recolleCt I think he a member of the
Insurance Committee ! am not sure of that.
Ole was in the Senate was he? Ayes.
ChajrmaU-IIo first i'm q
then in the Senate
Q.-Was Mr.. Graney first in the Assembly ard
then in the Senate? A.-Yes.