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PETS REPLY TO
BROTHER WISHARD.
o,,,,, a Little Church History
V'v From Accepted Standards Of
Prcsbyterianism.
PUTS PREACHER IN BAD LIGHT.
Ma. Point to Inconsistency Ia
dan, Things Striking Smiles
And Gems.

,,oso who have followed the Peet-
u.'.,.rd discussion, the following from
WS"a' n, lsaue of Truth will prove
Interesting
~. r,pth.- Brother Wishard's de-
hl,' o,swer 10 my remarks III Irutn
hEeu o. is received and j am sur
Of w ~ mink that the great head ana
pfsel r,isslonary OF the Presbyterian
chlel ~ Idaho and Utah should make
cu,' s,ise and mcalled for statements
sg n., i Wishard you stated IN your
pIu 1,ruth Dec "a, by lnter-
lel'V' hat belonged TO the Mormon
envy and that the lands l am SELL
quD'u', sYanp lands, and IN your lei
ms ~ tba Tribune, Jan "a you also
. mai am IN the editorial chalr
20, ,be 'Nrws," and that ] am a new
o. ON. there All Of the above state
Gun, ,ou know TO be absolutely false,
ME- never directly written an arti-
t,r tbe "Ncws' or associated myself
o Sh us editor although / consider
Nv Deserpt News one of the best ed
,ina and Inc most Independent news
ooors in the west, and l also consider
H. penrose. whom you try to slur,
,'.ry able upright and honorable man.
vi elso distorted my letter I'm Truth
nee a. For the sake Of argu-
va,rt vou said. 81 shall be under
~. nainfll necessity Of correcting
,ny roal estate friend IN reference to
Sis church history The narrowing
BUSINESS OF burning witches he lays
pT tbe Westminster catechism and
,be presbyterans Of New England,
beglnninR IN Massachusetts, In 1887. He
ouotes as the instigator OF this awful
business Rev Increase Mather, a Pres
bvterian minister Unfortunately for
tbs novice IA church history now taxi
inc hls first lessons, Increase Mather
vas NOT Presbyterian nor were any
NJ the Mathers Nor were there any
presbyterlans doing any work in New
England
CHURCH HISTORY.
AS an answer to the above, l will
quote 10 you from Beginnings Of New
England by j. Fiske, chapter 4, Pres
byterlan Cabal and the Cambridge
Platform, 1916 10 1851" In which II
said: In England Il was Just the criti-
cal moment Of the struggle between
Presbyterians and Independents which
had come into a complete issue Of the
great civil war Nassal, Child and
Maverick seem to have been the lead
ng spirits IN cabal for the estab-
shment Of Presbyterianism IN New
England, IN 1913 the work OF the
Synod was embodied In the famous
Cambridge platform which adopted the
Westminster confession as to It's creed
carefully defined to powers OF the
clergy and declared II to Se the duty
Of magistrates TO suppress heresy. In
1919 the general court laid this plat
form before the congregations. In
1851 Il was adopted and this event
may be regarded as completing the
theOcratIc organization Of the Puritan
commonwealth IN Massachusetts,"
Brother Wishard, you can also find
the above in substance IN The Eman-
cipatIon OF Massachusetts,. chapter 4
by b. Adams" also IN c. Mather's
Magnolia Christi Americana" book
g. part 2. And II you viii look on
page ia in the history Of American
Presbyterians, by Charles A. Briggs,
D. D., you win and that both In
crease and Cotton Mather were I'm
Presbyterian work also on page 1852
IN the same history you will find Cot
ton Mather reported as doing Pres
byteran mission work. You sneeringly
call me novice IN church history and
from your standpoint I may be, but you
will find that my statements and copy
ingF from history are correct. You
tried TO sldetrack my statements and
make them appear IN false light by
giving n history of the presbyterians. I
said nothing about the Presbyterian or
CARNATIONS; | spoke entirely of the
Westminster catechlsm and said after
II was adopted by the churches and
courts the awful WORK OF hanging
Quakers and witches commenced
VIII now say that after the damnable
record Of the Westminster catechism
from l6iS 10 1892 and stlll later I'm 1929,
the Preshyterians adopted II as O whole.
excepting certain clauses that referred
70 civil magistrates.
CATECHIsM QUOTED.
viii again quote from the westmln-
SER catechsm or the confession of
ialth OF the Presbyterian church. II Is
a revised, copyright edition OF 1897, pub
lshed by the Presbyterian board OF
publication and Sabbath school work,
Fhualelphla, You will note that Il was
buplahed seven years after Wilford
WOolruH's manifesto, and one year aft
et utah became a state. On page 20,
chapter 3, verse I. Il says: God from
an eternity did, by His own will. free
ana unchangeably ordaln whatever
Vo'nes 10 pass; yet so as thereby neith-
Sr IS COD the author OF sin. nor Is yio-
renee offered to the viii of the crea-
lures nor is the liberty or contingency
me second causes taken away, but
d4ther established" Verse 3. page 20.
hy the decree Of God for the manlfes-
auon OF His glory. some men and an
rvs are predestlnated unto everlasting
,lle and others foreordained 20 ever
Isllhg death" VERGE A. These an
ses ana men thus predestlnated ana
tv,eotdalned are particularly and un-
ynanBeably designed and their number
y 30 certain and definite that Il cannot
W. ellher Increased or diminished +"
Iase zb, chapter 5, verse /: God tho
t.yst creator Of all things, doth up-
nou direct dispose and govern ali
FEATURES actions, and things from the
greatest even 20 the least, hy His most
,uise and holy providence. according Ia
~ lhlallible fore knowledge. and tha
Nh, ana immutable council OF his own
MY 70 The praise Of the glory OF His
, m,slom, power Justice, goodness and
ELECT INFANTS"
Z. F5age 81 verse 3; ELECT Infants diving
tin infancy are regenernted and saved
NY ,ntist through tho Spirit who
,i".seth when, and whero and how lie
ir,,lseth, 30 also are all other elect
pr,.ohs, Who are Incapable OF being
tS ,'"oIuiy called by the ministry Of
e1ae Woofd. Verse A. Others not elect.
nv Ia Enough they may be called by the
SOM ol the word ana may have
az, they never truly come to christ
~ therefore, cannot be saved1'
is wv, Brother Wishard. the above
cr1 W he very plain English and YOU
v,hi.ol smother II with excuses or
Obj