New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1905-09-30
PAYMENTS DULY AUTHORIZED.

AUTHORIZED.
Owen, who instructed you to make. the pay
%ee mamg IN me 65 TO Of s ae
as the matters Of legislation to the States
that these people looking after for If matters
nothing inmicable to the policyholders' Interest
had passed without some reason for the laws being
Q.-Weli. have such payments been made in, the
last year TO Mr.. Short, or TO Mr.. Thummel? Al
don't recall whether there hes been one within a
o--wen. since January l. 1904? Al think so.
Q-when. they are made 70 Mr. Short or Mr..
to ther order? ABy check to {hep one Sy che0k
Q.-Haye checks been drawn to Mr.. Tunnels
said the same thing as TO Judge Hamilton in every
one Of those cases but find upon looking up that
~Q.That in some cases cash obtained? A.
-Now. Mr.. Short. Of course. was the general
ssicltor OF the Mutual Life Insurance Company?
Gas We know. What services did Mr.. Short
Rartment and his assistants similar to that of
Gwen, what occasion was there for using the
solicitors tors department Of the Mutual Life i you
pretty large country. and the judge did not cover
Q-What did Judge Hamilton cover in the wav
OF territory? A.-The Western part Of the coun-
Gives. Of the Mississippi? A.-No. west start
-Q.--And who covered the Central states2 A
o-Wei, then, did the Mutual Life pay you
west Of the Ohio 70 sir Rss' .. TIE e0u''-
Q--Tbey looked after that themselves? A.-They
4aa me similar arrangement with the New-York
Oh see. Well then, the payments that were
made to Mr.. Thummen were made as an assistant
70 Mr. Short; is that right-not independently? A
o[Was III. Thunnneu IN the solicitors office. or
did he have some other Office there? Al think
he was associated with Mr.. Short.
o.-What legislation did you bring to the atten-
ton OF Mr. Alexander or Mr.. Jordan as requiring
the services Of either Mr.. Hamilton or Mr. Short
within The last two or three years. so far as you
Jordan employed these gentlemen and I did not
call their attention TO any special legislation that
IS. TO Mr.. Jordan, don't think.
'KEEPING IN TOUCH"
oI understand you to say moment ago YOU
would call their attention matter which
required attention? A--These employInents of
these parties prior 10 my having anything to
co with it; they were employed and keeping
IA touch with the work
Q.-Well, in keeping in touch with the work. just
what did you do7 Al would communicate with
might have representative in the territory
who might be Of assistance. the agent other
party.
C.-were these amounts that were paid to MI
Short paid for Mr. Shorts services counsel rem
dered to the Equitable paid for Mr.. Shorts
disbursements? A--That do not know now. sir
because did not pass the bills.
Q.-Do you know the same thing IN regard TO
Mr. ThuInrneli? A--That don't know now
O.-Had any payments been made from agency
offices TO either Mr.. Short or Mr.. Thumrnel? A.
10-Have any payments been made to any one
connected with the New-York Life except Mr.
Hamilton2 A.-No, sir
0ICan- you by refreshing your memory give me
.nSr idea OF the payments made TO Mr.. Thun1rne IN
Tl5e last couple Of years? A--Not offhand here
ONWhat is that? A-Not here. 1 can look II
q ~ can look it UP and find It. Do you know
whether any payments were made TO Mr.. Thurn-