The Birmingham age-herald., 1905-12-16
HARTMAN ADDS CHAPTER TO
 THE STRENUOUS INTERVIEWS
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l | body In politics can get the friendship | and backing of people who have no po- 1 litical end to serve, why that gives them more or less standing. Now, Governor | Odell might resent such a statement as | that; I don't know whether he would | or not, but I think that if I were in | politics I would try to get as many men as possible of prominence to be friends l of mine.'
 MT. Hughes asked MT. Hartman what | was his understanding to the absolute | transfer of the Equitable stock to Ryan, whether there was any understanding that | there was any arrangement that the stock was to be carried for Hyde in whole or part.
 Independent Trustees. | NO" replied the witness, but that | was suspected by everybody MT. Hartman said he did not insist | that the two additional trustees sug- gested by him should be appointed by | him. What he wanted. he said, was the | appointment of two absolutely independ- | ent trustees to act as a check on Ryan and the Ryan trustees. MT. Hughes asked what MT. Hartman | did at Albany to prevent the mutualiza- ton of the Equitable. MT. Hartman said l that in the Equitable trouble MT. Hyde | offered to trustee the stock as Ryan did | A l had recommended naturalization "The Alexander faction wen to Albany | to oppose the plan.' sal the witness | "and MT. Platt went there to represent | committee of policyhoi.icrs. l was neu- l tral, not with either fa ctlon, l was in communication with men who were 10 in | form me if there was ny possibility of l the Alexander faction succeeding. I do not want to tell you what they reported | There was no bill introduced l took | steps with some memE .-s of the legsla- | ture to let me know if bill was intro l duced.'
 Mir Hughes brought out the statement l that MT Hartman did not prevent bill | being introduced, and he was not inform | ed that bill was going to be introduced. MT Hughes asked with whom Harrinlan | had the interviews. MT. Hartman said | he would rather sec the parties before | answering. He offered 10 tell Senator | Armstrong or MT Hughes privately and l if they decided that he must, he would l tell.
 Senator Armstrong said neither he or MT. Hughes desired to take such re- 1 sponsbility.
 | q communicated with some members of 1 the legislature.
 | Senator Armstrong: ..We commonly re- | ceive such communications from our | friends
 MT Hartman said: .'I told them what | I wanted to know. I don't want to go | further but I will consult with counsel | and if they say l should l will do so. | Senator Armstrong consented and the | three men went into an ante-room to con- | fer.
 l Forced to Tell. Mir. Hartman had said one reason why | he did not want to disclose the names was that he did not want to make sen sational headlines.
 | On MT Hartman returning to the stand | MT, Crayath, Judge Lovett and MT | Hughes and MT. Mckeen consuitea "l,h | the committee after which Judge Lovett | talked briefly with MT. Hartman. MT | Hartman asked to have the question re- | heated Hartman said he had the com | munication with the late Speaker Nixon and Governor Higgins He requested that | if anything came to their notice' peopie | in the Equitable were opposed to the | Alexander faction being notified. The understanding was not that the l governor or speaker should take any oth- | CT action
 "Did you suggest anything to them as
 to their attitude in the matter?" asked
 Mir. Hughes.
 No" replied the witness. | Was it anything more than a mere ln- oulry for official action?' | That Is all, that If anything came to their notice they should let me know so | could. If I thought desirable, have | chance to be heard in the matter, that the | people In the Equitable who were opposed | to the Alexander faction have an oppor- tunity to be heard.
 | ..Rut as I understand 1t you did not | suggest request or intimate that elther
 the governor or speaker should take any position or commit himself with reference to the matter one way or the other said | MT Hughes.
 ,f.
 You simply wanted to be advised?"
 ''I wanted to be advised.'
 You never were advised because noth-
 ing took placer?
 Nothing took place. l regret having to
 bring up Mir. Nixons name. especially as
 he is dead"
 Senator Armstrong:
 we are sorry you gave such an airy
 mystery to it. as we all know such in
 ouiries are regular and common.
 q hope my communication with them
 will not be put in the same catergory as
 the ordinary communications. l ask the
 press to spare these men and not bring
 their names into the headlines.
 Mir Hartman in leaving the witness
 stand said that his reason for wanting to
 keep Governor Higgins and Speaker
 Nixon's name out of the newspaper head
 lines is that most people read only the
 headlines. MT. Hartman was then ex-
 cused.
 Affairs of Prevalent.
 An examination of the affairs of the
 Prevalent Savings Life Assurance society
 was then taken up and Edward Moir, the
 actuary of the society went on the stand. He was examined as to the expenses of the
 society and many actuarial matters.
 MT Hughes took up the case of Nathan
 Owen of St. Louis. a policyholder of the
 Prevalent society. who had placed in the
 hands of lawyers his claim that the so-
 cietv had not fulfilled it's obligations to
 him in the matter of guarantee of divi-
 dends
 Mr Hughes elicited from Mir Moir that in the case of the Owen policy and others
 issued in 1889, the company had to draw
 on the guarantee fund belonging to these | policies to meet death claims but the | policyholders went on making payments. believing this fund was accumulated for , their benefit.
 Mir. Hughes brought out letter from
 TO CURE A COLD IN ONE DAY Take LAXATIVE BROMO Quinine Tab l lets Druggists refund money if if fails