The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-05-18
STUBS Is HERE.
Makes a Friendly Call on Cover
nor HOch.
Interviews Him on Tainted
Money Question.
CAN'T DRAW THE LINE.
Difference Between Good and
Bad Not Marked.
Veteran Leader Talks About
Passes as Brides.
iAN'T DRAW THE LINE.

EA-CDE&hGI w OAQUDS was in To- (
peka today and spent some time at the
Office Of Governor Hoch, chatting with
him about various matters and things.
Evidently Mr.. Stubbs is not going to
let the Royce affair make any differ-
ence on the surface. He was friendly,
and even familiar with the governor.
and the governor took occasion to slap
the big Quaker on the back several
times in the most amiable fashion that
could be desired.
On a wide arm of one of the big
chairs in the governors Office the two
statesmen sat. side by side and argued
about tainted money railroad passes,
and demagogues.
Whats your idea about this tainted
money business. governor?'' said Mr..
Stubbs, with a suggestion of q. wink to
some Of the bystanders.
III tell you what DR.. Plass saws
about it." said the governor. sidestep-
ping a direct answer. DIR Plass was
one of the people who welcomed the
federated members the other day. He
said, We have used no tainted money
at Washburn college. We consider that
when money is given with a good pur-
pose, and for worthy object, it is not
tainted .
TT strikes me- said stubbs. that it
is going to be pretty hard to draw a
line between good money and bad mon
ey. How are the churches going to tell
who puts money in the collection box?
Require a certificate Of good character
with every contributions?
Yes. that's the trouble assented
Governor Hoch. yet in principle, DR..
GLADDEN. is right. Money which some
body has acquired by fraud and sxrong-
doing should not be used to exploit Vir-
tue But it is one of those things in
which it is very difficult to draw any
line. It's the same way it is with the
giving of railroad passes. Now the
other night, Governor Hanly- of Indi-
ana. made a magnificent speech here
and said that no public officer should
be allowed to use a railroad pass.
don't hardly agree with that in prac-
tice, though it is all right in theory
Mr.. Stubs did not see it in Just that
light, however. He said:
I was in Kansas City a few days
friendly talk with a number of prom
inent railroad attorneys, They men
toned the name of a certain very
prominent Kansas politician in a slur-
ring manner I said, What has this
man done that you speak of him in
this way2 have always considered
him a pretty good sort of a fellow.
'Oh, he hasn't done anything except
bribe three or four thousand people in
the state Of Kansas, replied one of
the attorneys. What do you mean by
that?' I said. I mean replied the
attorney. that he sends out from so
to 100 passes every week to his
friends, and gets them from the rail-
road companies. Those attorneys
frankly admitted that passes were
bribes. They said that represented
Just so much money, and I believe
they were right about it,
Don't you think that the railroad
companies sometimes give passes SIM
ply as an act of friendship, without
any expectation of getting a return %
asked the governor.
i've noticed this, replied Mr..
Stubbs, s'and that is, that they give
passes only to people who are in
position to do them some good one
of the members of the legislature was
telling me about an eXperlenceahe had
not long ago. He said he came mere
to Topeka and was simply loaded
down with passes by all the railroads
After he went home, and was no long
er in the legislature, he applied for a
pass for somebody, and received IN
reply a very brief note stating that the
railroads under no circumstances
granted free passes That SHOWS What
the passes are given for
ssT don't know but what you re
right said the governor, land think
I would like to see a law prohloltlng e 9
the use of passes in this state, proVld-
ed we could get along Viii A. q = 90
able reduction in passenger rates Tor
the whole people. Nevertheless, there
is more danger to a state from dema-
gogues than from railroads. nake
State legislature that is controlled by
demagogues and it can do a great deal
more damage than the railroad passes
If we could sort of strike an average
between these two influences we
would have things about rlghL
Mr.. Stubbs said that ne just
dropped in to Topeka, and that he
didn't know any politics.
''I am working now, ne reIlaIheu- t,Lli4-l ,5!l
s'Have YOU landed any OF those Dig
a. mo " TeI5Ii TenIie5 si' MI stubbs I have
been busy figuring on them, but moth
ing has been done -.
afternoon.