The evening world., 1905-12-15

DO beneficial TO youf A. No, sir; IN
fact. told him that II in the process
Of arriving at a soiution-that II II was
deemed advisable thai the stock should
be presented to the society without re-
muneration-that I would agree so far
US my part was concerned that II should
be 50 done. and make no claim "a
philanthropy whatever, had Just as
much Interest In the general situation
as Mr.. Ryan or anybody else, and
could not see why, II Mr.. Ryan's mo-
tives were pure, why he should not
have been willing to have included 4
hundred or a thousand people In L.
There Is no sacrifice TO man who
three millions Of dollars with a pros
pcct Of getting II back again after he
has gotten control Of the society.
O.. That was your idea at the tme'
A thought there was probability
OF that. yes, sir.
O. Wen, did you think ths situation
would be bettersd by YOUR partlci-
pati?n In the purchaser A. / did, GER
tainly.
A Check on Ryan.
q, Operating as check upon himf
Y Q. II Wei. IL you were not o, ths. tim.
interested In ths Equitable IN any
way7 A, had been instrlimental 70
trying to- straighten out thq tangled
affairs q Tho Equtsbls and y pro
part OF one faction 10 obtain control
OF II over another, and had been IN
strumental IN bringing about the
Friok report had no interest ex-
cent thai OF one who had been In
veiEied Into getting htmseh Nnto a
false position.
%. DID you share I'm anyslappre-
henston that II the stock was not
taken out Of Mr.. Hyde's hands
there might be n panicf No, hrj
there was no possibility OF a panic.
There was nobody except MH. Ryan
who had that in view, ana doubt
whether he had.
q. Did you tell Mr.. Ryan that II no
did not give you a shafe OF tne pus-
chase that YOU would oppose the carry
ing out u his plansy A. No, sir NON,
let me explain. There Is a wronS M
tsrpretatlon put upon whatever CON
vereatlon took place after what ! have
already stated Whatever j sald "
Mr.. Ryan N regard TO my Opposing
,ntsreas ts NJ IN n the stock, but il was in
TaistSoo 10 NV being satisfied that he
was taking this action from puIE
motive and not from a selfish one, ana
II was 70 understood.
Didn't Demand stock.
O. Did you tell him that you had
given 20 niuch time to Equitable mat
tsrs that you could not permit anybody
10 come into the situation and control
the stock without your .consentY A. 1
doubt YhetbAr | ever said that.
Q. But you are not ID position where
Well, / had no Intention OF saying any
thing OF that kind.
o, the point then as understand Il Is
that YOU do not wish 70 have what you
said interpreted as a demand for the
stock. A. II was absolutely no demand
FOR Inc stock. 10 was a demand that
he satisfy me that his finst assertion
was correct. that he was acting from
an unselhsh motive
q And that ne could do by giving you
half the stockY A. BY showing n dis
position TO some other control chan his
o. pld you tell him that no would not
be able to carry out his plan against
your opposition2 A. { do not think
ara. D undoubtedly went into some dis
ctissiOn with hin as TO what attitude
would take n I was not satisfied mat
MS motive were pure and that | would
oppose him In every way
o. And then II was that you told him
That your influence would be thrown
against him2 A. Yes unless was sat
~ well I mean after you were con-
,gnced--- A. unterruptlng) We'll, i
don't want this twisted around, Mr.
Hughes,
a. dnteruptingl what i want "a
know A. did yen say you would
throw your influence ngntngt him
Al pin PRACTICALLY. I WAS
VOT SATISFIED THAT HIS iNTeN-
TENTIONs MEnE As coon As HE
SAID THEY WE'RE.
q. And after that you told him thai
your influence would be thrown against
him? A. Yes sir.
o. Now, lust what ala you say about
that? A, That / cannot recall. oan.
not recall Just what was said I had
"a my mind thar would use ever,
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