The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1905-01-17

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Was the iron part like thisf,,
1t had one claw broken off and the
head Of the hammer was broken more
a a5a - thus n $50 one; You could not use our
against Mr.. Pfaender because he was
becoming active against youfn
Not because he was active against
me, but because he, was trying to Pet
Who told you about itf''
o,, IT h5oa vas :, talked about generally in
Now, did you not know that as q
homicide, and for a few days after that.
MT; Pfaender was not in the city,
perhaps not.
Did you not know that Mr..
that week7''
Well, I know that I made that re-
mark after the homicide
And you made that remark because
against Hoidaleso :" eye" Y VS." sir. ), "Sorknne
1And you cannot tell who it was that
told you that Mr.. .Pfaender was work
ing against Hoidale?'
did not say that could not tell
1eii' ), told me: 1 said that I would not
CHOW, while you and Professor Rein
and Mr.. Krook were in the alley at the
rear Of the, Ottomeyer block, did not
Mr.. Krook say that that is long way
fol, a man to jump and not get hurt,
and did not you, reply with q grunti''
"When you went into DR.. Reinecke g
office did you not lean up against the
tableS' 81 do not know
"While you were in that room did
you have any conversation about the
''I don't know but I talked about it
down on the street. -,
"Were there not several persons In
that room7' "Yes.'
The Missing Coat.
"You had your cravenette coat
stolens" cit Is gone"
"And the only person you ever men.
taoned Mr the dast t. was your brotherin
anyt 5iis, s about It: vas told not to say
CHOW, Mr.. Koch, when did you first
learn that a handkerchief had been
picked up in the office Of DR.. Geb
,n; HWhen di q, you learn what the
1T think it was in the afternoon. DR.
Vogel came up and told me that the
initials were C.. R. K I think it was
that same evening. that Alfred Vogel
We were laughing about it,
"And do you say that when you
learned that the initials were g. R. K.
YOU laughed about it9''
eyes, there was crowd Of us i,
Alwin's drugstore and they were al
"You know it was light enough W
there to shoot rabbit at night in you.
II did not know it. I saw it,
HYou know from your experience al
a hunter that after you got your gu1
the rabbit. would be there9'
"eYs, sir. I thought it WOULD
take the cat out there7"
..<tshortly before I was arrested"
nWhy did you do itg"
cou Sssag sss P rsgSt at ys nsh Saying
"Did you not know that it woult
be better to. have some. one other thai
a member Of your family thereof
Il did not care what people thought
I wanted to have my family know tina
it was all right.
"When did you receive the blue DO,
like the one in which Gebhard received
the poison?o nAbout Oct. ~ ~
Friday afternoon, after the homi
cide.''
!tWhy did he take the boxi"
t'Because it was said that Gebhart
had received the poison in aRblue DO,
like that ". =;
Of this countyq'
- don't know"
You had no recollection Of seeing
0 H. Ulen in your office at Hanskaa'
,,,. mYo og don' want to swear that he
Miss Ida Koch was recalled and iden
marked. She was shown the handker
chief which was found in Gerhard ,:
office which bore the initials C. r. K.
She examined the letters carefully ani
then said that she had not marked thai
handkerchief. The state did not cross
examine.
Denies Mailing the Poison.
DR.. Koch was recalled to identify
Gue peuCA WHICH WAS put IN evidence
and General Childs continued the origi.
nal CROSS examinations,
"Did you send DR.. Gerhard from
Hanska. a package mailed ON the
train3" emo, SIR
"Did you, at Hanska, some time in
October, have in your hands exhibit
Is (the box Of poison) and endeavo1
to put it in the letter box, failing to
put in the box because the aperture
was not large enough; did you hand
it to the mail clerk and did the mail
clerk ask you what it was, to which
you replied, 1T is a package for a
Dutch dentist in New Ulm 's''' stI did
not.'
''Did you have such a conversation
with the mail clerk about such a pack.
ageW emo, sir =. :.
'sDid you, in September, send this
package to DR.. Gebhard?'' -
~ never sent him any package,
"Did you, in September or October,
hand a package to the station agent
to be put on the trainq' emo, sir.''
Henry Somsen was called and testi-
fed to getting the box from Koch s
office and the box was placed in evil
dence. DR., Koch WAS recalled and sn,or.