The news & observer., 1905-11-22

know?"
II don't think they had any influ-
ence: SO far as 1 know
Have you ever been asked. Senator,
on behalf of any of the insurance ccm-
panies. to intervene in their favor by
reason of such contributions"
Never in the world
I'm connection with matters of Leg
islation of the insurance."
Never in the world"
'At all in connection with matters
of legislation ?"
-'They have never asked me in the
world
And you have never done anything
o fthe kind -
81 have not"
The Advantage to be Reaped.
The Senator expressed the opinion
that life insurance companies were
justified in making campaign contr1-
oul.ons while the gold issue was at
stake He did not care to pass upon
the justification of the companies in
giving money for State campaigns.
what advantage could they get by
SO contributing asked Mr.. Hughes.
..They got it through me as being
connected with the State COMMITTEES.
they would suppose Il would be very
likely to defend them at times when
il was necessary. / never had occa-
sion to do it,
Have they ever requested your
support in any matter -
"They never nave.
81 understood you to say they would
expect you would support or defend
them, rfow, what class of possibilities
had you in mind in saying that to see
that the legislature did not enact
legislation which they thought hostile
to policy hOlGers?"
'sThat is about what it would
amount to-"
"How could you control that situa-
tion?''
II could not control it,.
"How could you in any way in
fluence it?'
Il might have some influence"
Through the disposition of the
moneys i'm the election of legislators"
..Oh. 1 could not say that.
isn't that the way 1t really comes
about Senator that the use of these
contributions i'm the election of cam
didates to Office puts the candidates
more or less under a moral obligation,
not to attack the interest supporting
them?''
'.That is what naturally would be
involved
II snould think So
Tarbell Testifies Again.
Gage f. Tarbell, the second vice.
President of the Equitable Life, was
also a witness again today. He con-
tinued his explanation of the agency
system. of which he had charge and
the manner of arriving at the COM
missions. He detailed a history of
tba nf insurance cnnnanipc
and his own efforts to reduce the cost
of getting business.
During his testimony Mr.. Farbell
made a very extensive explanation OF
the good that insurance companies
have done and the difficulties under
which the work is carried on. One
part of his testimony caused much
amusement to the committee. as well
as the spectators when he described
fight with the New York Life over the
taking of agents. In this statement
Mr.. Tarbell told how he won over ii
general aoent and two hundred sub
agents of the New York Life in this
city, without the cost TO the Equitabl
of so much as one dollar. The only
inducement offered was that the
agents could make more on commits
sion basis than under the salary of
the New York Life Mr.. Tarbell de-
various steps and said that he closed
the deal on a Sunday. He thought it
was a good job and it was done on
good day.
Apgar Says He's BcfOggcd.
Mr. Tarbell'S Testimony was inter-
rupted again during the afternoon
session and Assemblyman JAS. +. APP
gar, of West Chester. was called. His
rd with the inScrjDtiOn MIR. HYDE
SAYS to pay Him" was attached to d
voucher for $1,000, which the Equi-
table paid Thos. d. Husteo. and the
voucher fore Husted's endorsement
Mr.. Apgar knew absolutely nothing
about the money, nor did he know
how his card came to be used for such
a purpose, nor had he ever heard OF
any money being paid by the Equl-
table or nawone else. He knew Fields
but never knew of his receiving money
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