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The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
MONEY ENOUGH To
PAY STATES BILLS

SINCE THE LAST OF PROLONGED
SESSION THERE "sMLE THAT
HOUSE, ANY ONE CAN GO
THEY WILL
A GENERAL TREASURER
A. WHOLE TROUBLE LIFTED OFF
HIS THE COMPROMISE" REVENUE
BILL FOR CUPBOARD HIS GOLFERS,
SAME BARE
SHELVES ARE STILL BARE
AND INSTEAD OF
HE WILL BE HAVING
THE OCCUPATION OF
CERTIFIED APPROPRIATION BILLS HE HAS
BUSINESS OF THE
ASSEMBLY AT THE
z THE STATE
ANOTHER YEAR.
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN EASILY
TAKING CARE OF THE
TREASURER TODAY
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15

MISSING
AUTO BOAT
IS SAFE

Paris. May 15.--The ministry OF marine
has received a dispatch announcing that
the torpedo boat destroyer Arbalete had
arrived at Cagliari. Sardinia towing the
autoboat Quand Meme. having on board
her owner. the Duke DeCazes and all the
crew OF the racer.
The. Quand Meme led the racers from
Port lahon, Island OF Minerca, until
about fifty miles outside of Toulon, when
the storm blew her back over the same
course she had taken.
The rescue OF the Quand Meme closes
the contest without loss Of life but with
only two OF the seven starters afioat.
Further advices received by the min
istry of marine shows that the crew OF
the Quand- Meme were saved, but the
boat itself was abandoned The com
mander OF the Arbalete telegraphs that
he has all the members of the crew on
board the destroyer
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
DAUGHTERS OF LIBERTY
HELD ANNUAL MEETING

The eleventh annual meeting OF the
Daughters OF Liberty was held this morn
ing in Prescott Post hall, Washington
street
The meeting which was devoted chiefly
TO business opened at 10 o'clock with Hat
tie Northup of'Valley queen Council IS Of
Anthony presiding.
The annual report was read and the or
ganization was found TO be In horishing
condition.
The officers present were Hattie North
up Of Valley Queen Council Is OF Anthony.
State Secretary Maud +. Vial OF Lady
Lincoln No. OF Providence.
The visitors present were National
Councillor j. Bailey Harvey Of Pennsyl-
vania: National Secretary w G.. Ed
kins OF Pennsylvania National Vice
Councillor Kate Woodside OF Cumberland
Mills. Me, and National Representative
w n. Woodsde OF Cumberland Mills,
Me.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
YALE To GET
VALUABLE
PROPERTY

New Haven. Conn. May 15.-The pur-
chase for Yale university of the property
known as the Hnlhouse estate on Pros
pect street was announced today. The
estate has an area OF about 80 acres. and
has an estimated value OF about three
quarters OF a million dollars, that part
OF IL given 10 the university costing up
wards OF half million dollars and con-
stituting the most important gift. for in
erect that is what IL will be, that has
come TO Yale i'm half n century.
The property lies 10 the eastward and
INN ediately adjacent 20 the SheffiSld
scientific school buildings and is In New
IIaven's most exclusive residential Sec
ton
The university as university Is not
the purchaser Of the property, as the
condition of its funds does not allow this,
but MIR William NJ. Barnum OF New York,
Mr.. Clifford PInchot OF Washington, ID. c.,
Lewis H. Welch OF New Haven and Sec
retary Stokes Of the Yale corporation and
others interested are making It on behalf
OF the graduates who will present the
property TO the university.
section OF the property will be set
aside for permanent park purposes, this
park 20 be maintained at university ex-
ptnsc.
There Is no intention OF erecting any
buildings in the immediate future. but
the property is purchased with a special
view Of meeting the needs OF the forest
school and OF the botanical garden. The
uichase is made possible by the recent
death OF Miss Isaphene Hillhouse. the
last member OF the family OF James Hill
house. who died half-century ago.
James Hllhouse OF New York and OF
Yale. 75. a nephew OF Miss Hillhouse,
makes the sale.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
BOWEN
RECEIVES
CHARGES

Washington. May 15.-Secretary Taft
today handed Mr.. Bowen n copy of the
charges which Mr. 1oomis. the assistant
secretary OF state. had filed. alleging that
the retiring minister at Caracas had in
spired the publication OF charges against
Loomis. and also a copy OF the latter's
reply TO charges, in which Mr. Bowen
in his official capacity as minister at
Caracas felt 1t his duty to forward 10
Washington as matters of information.
Mr. Bowen took the papers TO his hotel
and will prepare a supplementary state
ment of his side OF the case.
Mr. Bowen at first called at the White
House, where he was received by the
president, with whom he had a few
minutes conversation and at the presi-
dents suggestion subsequently called
upon Secretary Taft.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
ocontlnued From Page onel

Continued From Page one.)
Possible signs Of the end OF the team
ieters' strike began TO grow today.
( President Shea OF the Transfers union
telegraphed President Gompers OF tho
sAmerican Federation OF Labor requesting
q meeting OF the national board of that
board to be held In Chicago at the end
OF the week President shea also telc-
graphed the national officers u the In
ternational Brotherhood OF Teamsters TO
como to Chicago forthwith.
The teamsters' executive board will De
IN session about Wednesday or Thursday.
Some OF the members are already here
The move TO bring the national board
of the American Federation OF Labor to-
Eether was viewed by the team owners
and by labor officials generally as i'm
portant I'm the direction OF a settlement
This may possibly take the form OF a
calling off OF the strike. The telegram
no President Gompers asked that be call
a meeting 20 be held In Chicago no later
than Saturday.
NO SIGN OF SURRENDER.
international President shea's words to-
day showed no hint Of surrender
The papers say we are weakening. 9"
nc said. "but / want 20 say that ~ any
teamster comes into the meeting to-
night and advocates surrender / will not
answer for him"
Are you going 10 take any further
legal proceedings In the prosecution OF
the strike?" he was asked
Legal proceedlngs2' he exclaimed IN
apparent disgust. we viii leave that
90 the employers They have an iniunc-
tion, but injunctions do not drive wagons.
We shall not resort 20 legal proceedings
The strike viii be won by the strength
OF the teamsters' Organization
small sized riot among the boys OF
the Carpenter public school today was
cuclicd by the police
The row vas over the attempted de-
livery Of coal by non-union teamsters
HELD WITHOUT BAIL
Charles Casey. business agent NJ the
Carriage and Wagon Makers union. 40.
a. accused ~ being an accessory 90 She
murder of Carl J. CaristrCm. who 90 Is
alleged was beaten to rru--- " n1rsd
thugs. waived examination today and was
held 20 the Criminal court without bail.
The examination - Caseys four COM
pani0ns was continued tnl May W with
one exception the bonds ~ these men
were hxed az $1,000 The bonds of Henry
J, Numsn. financial secretary of Car
riaee and Wagon Makers union. No. 4.
we're hxed at s2s.o 900.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
CHANCELLOR AND WAR MINISTER
CONFER WITH THE KAISER

Metz, Alsace Lorraine. May 15.-Chan-
cellor Won Buelow and Minister Of War
Won Slnem, who arrived today, having
been summoned by Emperor William, had
long conference with his majesty. The
object OF the consultation puzzles observ-
ers but the impression prevails that IL
concerns the defences OF the empire.
The emperors speech At Strassburg SEN
sational as IL was reported 10 be. was
much less so than one containing allu-
sions TO France, which had been pre-
pared by his ma ajesty. who however. accept
ing the advice OF members OF his entour-
age did not deliver IL.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15

zone thing Is certain, | had borrowed
The limit that the state allows me. $3.50, 600.
and of that / secured 10000 last year and
the $4,000 this year do not see how We
can take up those notes this year. and so
they will undoubtedly have 70 be carried
along until we can take them up. either In
whole or I'm part"
A secvtion OF the revaluation act partic-
ularly pleasing 10 Mr.. Read is this: AT
ter the year 1905 the valuation OF the sew
eral towns and cities as fixed by the as
SCISSORS OF the said towns and cities. re-
spectively, at the assessment OF taxes In
said towns and cities, respectively, next
pdeceding the respective times OF pay
ment OF the state tax 10 the general treas
urer. shall be the basis OF the tax provided
for by section ] OF chapter % OF the Gem
eral Laws"
That will give us a fine healthy Increase
in income. said he, and you can see what
the advantage OF basing this years on
the 1904 valuation. II will give $l52,0O
more revenue TO the state In state taxes,
according 10 my figures.
when the greatly increased valuation is
obtained In Providence by the provisions
OF the chopped up tangible personal prop
erty tax bill which provides. save In spe-
cihc cases that property located here
shall be taxed when found regardless of
where the owner lives or claims resi-
deice the state will benefit as will the
next year and Newport and other places
will also add their shares.
THE NEW VALUATION.
Under the 1904 valuation the state tax
will be assessed on the following city and
towns values: Providence, $20I. 9sS. $50:
North Providence. N770.555; East Provi-
dence, $9.444, ,566: Pawtucket. $37 .66l. $50:
Lincoln, $4,717S21; Central Falls, $,6s7, 665;
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
WANTS $4,000 DAMAGES
FOR HIS CRUSHED HAND

The William II. Haskell Manufacturing
company OF Pawtucket Is defendant In a
suit TO recover $500. brought by Joseph
Prairie. Jr.. former employe. on the
Attn of last January Prairie was working
at a stamping machine.
There was a defective clutch on the
drop and the machine was apt 10 start
OF its own accord. on the day in ques-
tion the drop came down unexpectedly
Plaintiffs right hand was caught and
crushed and mangled The bones OF Prai-
rie's left hand forefnger were also so
badly crushed that amputation was neces-
sary.
John W. Hogan is attorney for the
plaintiff.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
BROTHERHOOD OF RAILROAD
TRAINMEN IN SESSION

Buffalo. y. Y. May 15.-T'he Brother
hood of Railroad Trainmen convened here
today with large majority of the dele
gates present. Mayor knight delivered
an address OF welcome. which was re-
sponded to by +. II. Morrissey. grand
master OF the organization. II is expect
ed that the committee on credentials will
occupy the entire day.
The order now has 726 lodges. each rep
resented by a delegate and an alternate.
This evening there will be a public meet
ing. at which Gov. Higgins is expected
to deliver an address.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
HEAVY rain IN TEXAS
CAUSES MUCH DAMAGE

Houston, Texas May ia heavy rain
has fallen over south and east Texas and
much damage has been done.
The Brazos river Is rising at Bryan at
the rate OF one foot an rour.
With the rain along the lower river
last night and today the expectation is
that the river will go out of it's banks to-
morrow below Bryan and indications are
now that the food will exceed that OF
1899 which is now the record. Great dam
age was done to property at that time
At points below Bryan, the river is ris-
ing fast.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
DROWNED MAN Identified;
WAS NELS RUE, A BARGE SAILOR

The body OF the man who was drowned
in the Providence river at the foot OF
Crary street has been Identified
The unfortunate was Nels Rue. 26
years iold. and single.
He shipped with Capt. Carl Johnson
o. the barge Coal King. at Boston, two
weeks ago
The Coal King arrived in this port last
Friday.
Capt. Johnson heard OF the drowning
and went 10 Monahan's morgue, whers
he az once Identified the remains.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
HEARING Of CASES IN WHICH
JURY TRIAL HAS BEEN WAIVED

Judge Blodgett today began the hearing
of cases in which jury trials had been
waived. The following cases were heard.
Thomas Grimshaw VS. John Brown. De-
cision from plaintiff for $3.50.
w. Waldo Robinson VS.. Arthur s.
Downes. Judgment for the plaintiff for
So by reason OF submission OF the de-
fendant.
Thomas Seery VS.. j. Ellis White ct al.
This was an action 10 recover damages
for injuries received on a highway The
city OF Pawtucket is the principal de-
fendant.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
DANGER OF AN UPRISING
IN RUSSIA OVER,
Continued from page One.


st. Petersburg, May ia naval action
within a few days is regarded as likely
in well-informed naval circles. The AS
sociated Press learns that Admiral
Rojestvensky and Rear Admiral Neboga-
toff Joined forces May 10. There is reason
to believe the united fleet will proceed
northward Immediately. No delay was
necessary for the purpose OF coaling or
cleaning Nebogatoffs ships, as his diyi-
vision made a stop for this purpose before
entering the Straits OF Malacca.
Upon the strength OF an untraceable
rumor an evening paper here got out an
extra, announcing that a naval battle had
begun. but the admiralty discredits the
report
DISTURBANCE AT SHIPYARD.
st. Petersburg. May 15.-There was a
disturbance this afternoon at the Newski
shipyard in the Schlushlburg causeway
on the left bank Of the Neva, above st.
Petersburg
The chevalier guards have just left their
barracks on horse guard boulevard at a
gallop.
The Associated Press Is informed by
telephone that the men at the shipyard
walked out in a body carrying red flags
and singing revolutionary songs. So far
as ascertaned the troops have not fired
on the workmen. -
QUESTION OF NEUTRALITY.
Paris May 15.-The chamber OF depu-
ties resembled today after the Easter
holidays.
NJ Valiant (SocialisD presented an in
terpellation OF the government upon the
observance of neutrality in the far east
and NJ. DePresenz (SocialisD interpellated
the ministry upon neutrality and Mo-
rocco.
Premier Rouvier I'm reply said the gov
ernment as recently explained had given
orders to the authorities In the far east 10
strictly observe neutrality and this con-
tinued TO be the situation. The inter-
pellations were thereupon postponed and
It was announced that the government
had abandoned its intention TO issue
yellow book on the neutrality question.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
STILL BLOCKED WITH ICE

Meat Cove c. b., May 1.-THE entrance
to the Gulf OF ST Lawrence Is stu
blocked by heavy ice, all the way from
cape Ray. y. f., To Cape North ON the
Cape Breton coast.
The steamer Mimic. which Is being used
to test a number OF wireless telegraph
stations. arrived here today after at
tempting To reach Cape Ray. The Mlnto
sailed from Cape Breton last Saturday.
The captain reports ice In all directions.
but he decided 10 make another attemrt
today 20 reach the New Foundland coast
and tho steamer has again gone Jut-
side.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15

smithfeld. 81 6s5. .0Sf, North Smithfield. ST.
$40. i65: woonsocket. sl7O73, $50; Cumber-
land. Ss 601 S24: Burrillville. $3.50 $50: Glo-
cester. 81 .0S9. 300; Foster, 1902 S65; Scituate.
81, 4o5,S0O; Johnston, S25ls'225; Ctanston'
sl3.slO 93l: Newport, $43, ,035, 500; Middletown,
s., ,Of7, ,325: Portsmouth, S2.s99525; Tiverton.
S3.o3s. 73l. Little Compton. S,437,S7O:
Jamestown. $2.5S9 633. New shoreham,
$685.. 200; Bristol. As25.5Oo; harrington. ST.
724.9ll: North Kingstown. $4SS3. 1853: South
Kingstown, 81. 200 lT0 Narragansett. 49,
Gas. 400: Charlestown, 1897 $50; Westerly $6,-
92i.l2O: Hopklnton. sl.7So55o Richmond,
Sl2ls,9e0; Exeter, $5NS l6O: Warwick. slS'-
wich. S2Si9, 903; West Greenwich, s&6,090;
Warren A.50S,SJ0.
TOWNS MUST BORROW.
AS the towns are not entirely ready to
pax-nilt- increased tax there wifi be
some sparring to get the funds In time.
for half the tax has 20 be paid June 10,
and most towns aud some cities may have
10 do some borrowing
After this year IL Is estimated that they
will not even have TO borrow. for the
personal property tax will take care or
them, II is thought, In nearly every case.
The state treasurer says he has found
one little omission in the bill. 1T does
not as far as | can ascertain, provide the
manner I'm which the general treasurer
shall ascertain the official city and town
valuation. But we can get over that. /
believe, by having certified copies made
OF the valuation I'm the tax books"
In the meantime the tax assessors are
studying up the act and preparing TO
make a cleaner sweep than ever and the
tax dodger IL trembling 10 see just how
far the senate left him open TO attack
from the assessors.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
FRANCE TO SEND SPECIAL ENVOY
To CROWN PRINCES WEDDING

Berlin, May 15-The Togeblatt today
says
THE surprising news comes to US from
Paris that the French government has de-
cided 10 send special envoy TO attend
the wedding Of the Crown Prince. This
has been determined upon I'm principle by
the French cabinet and will be further
discussed at another sitting at which the
personnel OF the delegate will be consid-
cred, whether IL shall be OF civil. official
or military, or OF both civil and military
officials" z
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
ANDERSON SUES RHODE
ISLAND CO. FOR $4,000 DAMAGES

John Anderson has sued thc Rhode
Island company TO recover 5000 for per
sonal injuries. on April llth Mr.. Ander-
son was a passenger on n car. that was.
he claims. 80 carelessly manaTeu that n
taking switch on ship and Richmond
streets part OF the car left the rails and
he was thrown 20 the ground.
HIS injuries are Of a serious and per-
manent nature according TO the declara-
ton filed by him I'm court
r. +. Farrell Is plaintiffs attorney.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
NEW CORPORATION

stephen l.. Randall. Fred I. Smith and
Albert G. Reynolds have filed articles OF
association as The state Printing and
Publishing company with Secretary OF
Stete Bennett
The concern has $500 capital stock and
will be located I'm Providence and engage
In the business Of printing and publish
Ing newspapers. books and other pub
hcations and doing general printing
and publishing business.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
NOT LIABLE TO TAX

Philadelphia. Pa. May 15.-Thc Penn
sylVania supreme court today with two
justices dissenting. decided in a test case
that the insurance assets of trust COM
Jat les are not Sable 10 a state tax of
fcHr mills. The decision means an Inn
mcnse loss iu revenue to the state.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
FROM TROLLEY CAR
she SUES FOR $4,000

jury in Judge Wilbur's court today
heard the case of Nellie l.. Dowling
against the Rhode Island company.
brought TO recover 5000 for personal in
juries. Plaintiff claims that a car from
which she was alighting on July "a. 1904
was suddenly started and she was thrown
10 the ground
Three of her ribs were broken and her
spine injured John w. Hogan was at
torney for the plaintiff and L. S. Hotf-
man represented the defendant.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
cox ACCUSED OF ASSAULT
WITH INTENT TO KILL

Belfast Me- May e. Rudolph Cox OF
Liberty was arrested early today on
charge Of assault with intent 10 kill upon
John w. Webster OF Belfast. formerly
OF Stonington. Webster received two re-
volver shots i'm the left breast. but Is ex-
pected TO recover unless blood poisoning
developed.
The shooting occurred on the Liberty
road. a mile from town, late last night
while Webster was accompanying Cox
towards the latters house.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
WHITMAN AGAIN ON TRIAL

Buffalo. n. Y. May 15.-Alonzo ].
whiteman was placed on trial today.
charged with detrauding the Fidelity
Trust company or Bufvlo OF $780, on an
on July 5 last
IL is the second trial OF Whiteman on
six forgery and larceny indictments. He
was acquitted on the first charge.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
AFREelECTURE A E

A free lecture with stereopticon Illus
trations. entitled "A Ride Through Pales-
tine" will be given this evening az s
O'Clock I'm the chapel of tho Congrega-
tlonal church on Stewart street by w. u.
Wilson. secretary Of the Rhode Island
Sunday School association. a collection
will be taken to aid the lecturer in his
work
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
THREE or INJURED LEAVE HOSPITAL

Harrisburg Pa. May l5.-Three of the
50 wreck Va Tins az tho Harrisburg hos
pital were able 10 leave Tor their homes
today and the condition ~ several others
Ia such tha. they expect TO go home In
few days.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
Tho New York Stock Market.

Reported for The News over the pri-
vate wire OF EDWARD p. SHELDON
& co, Bankers and Brokers, Room 25i
Banigan building.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
The Cotton Market.

Reported for The News over the pri-
vate wire of EDWARD p. SHELDON
& Co, Bankers and Brokers, Room 23i
Banigan building.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
Geo. II. Burnhan

GNes his Personal Attention 30
AUCTION SALES OF REAL ESTATB
AND STOCKa
OFFICE. 4 EQUITABLE BUILDING.
More than twenty years experience I'm the
business In this city. Attends also 70
appraisal OF
REAL ESTATE.
OFFICE, 4 EQUITABLE BUILDING,
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15

The steamer Carlisle is, a Is said. under
charter 90 the Russian government Some
time I'M April she put into Manila FOR re-
pairs and while she was there consider
able excitement was caused by some Jan=-
anese Tying 60 blow her up.
Finally she sailed for Nladivostok. but
was compelled 20 put back. as her crew
declined 10 do duty. She made three at
tempts 20 sail and ultimately got away.
The above dispatch indicates that her
port of destination was not Nladivostok.
but Saigon. which leads 90 the assumption
that her cargo was 20 be transhipped
there 10 Admiral RoJestvensky.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1905-05-15
DISCOVERED WAR STORES
British Steamer Watched BY GuRhuat al
SaIgen Because Of ConiTaband.

Saigon. May i5-The British steamer
Carlisle has arrived and anchored in tho
river below the city. Notwithstanding
that her captain declared that her cargo
was a commercial one Governor Rodier
ordered that she be Inspected and n guam
tlty ~ war stores was revealed The
watching her
The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1905-04-21

great magnitude of the Kansas oil
fields. The development of that part
of the state as an oil and gas field is
far advanced.
Mr.. Garfield was preceded in his visit
by Charles Earl, a Washington, D. c.,
man, who came to town Thursday af-
ternoon and went out to see Governor
HOch Thursday night Mr.. Earl had
long talk with Governor Hoch, and ar
ranged for a consultation between Mr..
Garfield and Mr.. Hoch today. Mr. Earl
is one OF Garfield's chief assistants.
and has been taking dispositions and
collecting affidavits down in Chanute
Independence and other southern Kan
sas towns. He did not stay in Kansas
City last night to participate in the
Knife and Fork club dinner which was
addressed by Commissioner Garfield.
Mr.. Earl said this morning; Mr..
Garfield Will come in some time this at
ternoon, and will have a talk with the
governor. I do not care to say what
this conference is for; that is for Mr.
Garfield to talk about. Mr. Garfield
will probably leave town some time to-
day"
Gov. Hoch was apparently not very well
posted on the objects of Mr.. Garfeld's
visit to Topeka.
II don't know what Mr. Garfield wants
to see me about. I talked with Mr. Earl
for some time last night. but nothing of
any great Importance was under discus
sion. So far as I know Commissioner Gar
field does not desire the state to do any
I understand that after finishing his work
here in Kansas Mr. Garfield will 60 to
Colorado and California to study the con-
dltlonS which exist out there"