The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1905-03-10
LIVELY TIME SENATE.
Debate over Consolidation Wakes
Warm Before Final Action.

Warm Before Final Action
The college merger affair was first
taken up when the senate met at 1890
O'Clock in the morning and ran at
intervals all through the rest of the
day
Hollingsworth's motion to amend
made the proposed constitutional
amendment part of the anti-consolida-
ton report.
Senator Barber at once sailed into
the proposal of HollingswOrth and
made long talk against consolida-
ton. arguing that the duplication of
studies was much exaggerated.
Rasband said the two institutions as
at present maintained act as a mill
stone around the neck Of the state
He took the position that the state
cannot afford two universities teaching
the same subjects.
HOllingsworth urged that a constitu-
tional amendment offered the only So
luton of the question.
BenniOn favored the amendment. In
the course of his talk he expressed a
belief that the constitutional conven-
ton made a mistake when it adopted
policy of maintaining two institu-
lions.
Improvement Would Follow Merger.
Williams spoke for the amendment,
claiming the revenue of the state did
not justify two schools of higher
| ACdil lA4AAS- II Is Impossible 10 make
either institution first class under pres
ent conditions. he said, and he quoted
| statistics on the number of young men
| and women who attend universities in
other states because they do not be-
lteVe they can get the best advantages
at home. He believed consolidation
| would add to the efficiency of both
| schools and would do away with the
strong feeling between students of the
| rival institutions.
| TaE
another tribute to the filling of the
soil. He frankly opposed consOlida-
| ton, and quoted Brigham Young on
| the subject.
Pointing to the portrait of Brigham
Young that is on the wall of the cham
| Der, Senator Mckay said:
! I heard that image on the wall there
say, standing on the ground of this
| fair territory and talking to his breth-
/ rem face to face. that he had TO take
! his feet and cover up what he saw
/ lest the brethren should see what he
saw and neglect agriculture to take
| up the mining industry
Senator Mckay blamed the develop
ment of the mining industry for the
whole intercollegiate trouble. He CEN
sured boys and girls who go to col
1 lege and then feel themselves too good
| to work on the farm. The undesira-
/ bility Of large city the home of a
college was another reason why Sena-
| tor Mckay objected to having the Ag-
ricultural college located in salt Lake
! City. He indirectly referred to Salt
Lake as a deadly pail"
Another speech by Senator Barber
/ III answer to arguments of the other
| side closed the forenoon session.
Resumed in the Afternoon.
Callister opened the ball in the aft
ernoon- Before the noon recess he
said he believed he could inform him
I 20 on h. \,
didn't have too many visitors" He
appeared in the afternoon with a for
midable array of documents and spoke
at length. He paid great Difference to
both sides of the question and finally
| lined up against consolidation. In an
swer to questions by Lawrence and
Williams he said he believed the voters
needed education on the subject before
they would be fit to vote on the ques-
| ton and that he believed it was a mis-
take to establish the two institutions
Then why continue that mistaken"
said Williams
Callister replied that he wanted the
change made in the right way"
The amendments to the report were
| then adopted the senators lining up lust
as they voted later when the proposed
constitutional amendment was lost.
johnson came over to the consoIida-
| ton side when the committee report
was adopted. although he swung back
.
tional amendment could not be worded
to suit him.
A short recess was taken to allow
the committee on rules TO frame UP an
order of procedure. The committee
recommended that the measures be
taken UP in order. as if they had come
from committee with favorable reports
All members except HOllingsworth and
| Barber were limited to fiVe-minute
speeches. The report of the commit
tee on rules was adopted.
johnson Wants Amendments.
Johnson secured the adoption of an
amendment providing that the Agri-
cultural college remain at Logan. Va
rlOuS other amendments to this par
ticular section were suggested. but
Johnson was not suited, and at length
the matter was put over for half an
| hour 10 give him an opportunity to
frame a new section.
He came in with his amendment at
the appointed time. II located the Ag-
ricuitural college at Logan and made
several changes IN the apportionment
of the courses.
His amendment lost. Bennion then
amended the report to eliminate the
former amendment that located the
school at Logan This amendment was
adopted. Lawrence lost an amendment
that reduced the section TO the pre-
else form in which it first came up.
was no objection to Bennfon's motion
to eliminate the proviso relating to
forfeiture of the site of the Agricul-
tural college. and the entire measure
was placed on its final passage. fail
ing by the vote of 10 to s. given above
Johnson explained his vote by saving
he was in favor Of consolidation. but
could not vote for the measure as it
was worded.
This settled the fate of the proposed
constitutional amendment
Senate bill No. $50. the new title for
senate and house joint bill No. /. Gre
ating the commission. was then taken
up and passed unanimously Hollings-
worth and Lawrence made fruitless ef-
forts to amend the measure SO as to
permit the governor to choose the
members Of the commission at large
from the state.
Senate bills Nos. 151 and 152 the
measures relating TO the courses Of
instruction in the Institutions wee
then referred to the committee on edtI-
cation, of which BenpiOn is Chairman.
They will probably be reported hack
with amendments today.
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