Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1905-02-11
Mr.. Tayler--I will read what he said.
Mr.. smoot-That will be better.
Mr., Tayler readlng)'
''BRoTHER THATCHERs EN-
DORSEMENT.
without qualification or mental res.
ervatlon, accept this decision In full
"MOSES THATCHER

1
| findings,
''Thnt he was In error IN stating IN
| his published letter to President Lor-
| EMO Snow.
During all these weary months,
| while friends and physicians believed /
was on the verge OF the grave, J was
administered TO only once by members
| OF our quorum, although day after day
| engagements made for that purpose
were, for reasons unknown 10 me, not
| kept"
! Then the finding
I'm this connection he may state that
| one such engagement was not kept,
| but that this WAS not an intentional
| breach OF promise
| Do you recall that2
"That I'm speeches and published let.
| ters he has used expressions which had
been better unsaid and that he regrets
| their utterance,
THAT he k .lws of no higher allegi-
| ance or more solemn and binding obil-
| cations than those Of a religious char
acter between a man and his God.
THAT In speaking Of chains, OPP
| preston 'curtailment OF liberty NAL
| Ice anger spite and revenge he
| did not intend to reflect upon the au-
| thorites Of the Church I'm any way. and
| Is grieved that his language has been 50
construed"
Senator Smoot-I think that was one
Of the charges that he was tried ON
and now he says II is not true.
Mr. Tayler-Do you think that when
he did make use in this connection Of
the words chains Oppression" eur
tailmant of liberty" "mallcn," "an-
ger" spite ana revenge" he did
not intend to reflect uuon the authori-
ties OF the Church In any way?
Mr. Worthington-I object 10 that
| question unless the witness shall be
shown the connection in which Moses
| Thatcher is alleged TO have used the
language, How can anybody say
whether Moses Thatcher intended to
cast a reflection upon the Church UNI
less he Is shown the connection in
which Thatcher used the language?
Moreover | object Mr. Chairman, TO
the witness being Intercepted as TO
what he thinks Moses Thatcher meant
by writings which are In evidence in
this case,
Mr.. Tayler-Now, Senator
The Chairman-I should like to ask
you a question In this connection. Sem
ator. Ia the First Presidency supreme
in all affairs relating to the Church?
Senator Smoot-The First Presidency
Is supreme in all affairs pertaining to
the Church.
The Chairman--In everything relat.
ing to the Church?
Senator Smoot--Well, OF course, when
II comes TO a question Of a revelation
that is to be binding upon the people.
the President himself receives II, and It
must be accepted by the people
The Chairman--I understand.
Senator Smoot-He could not be SUI
preme in that sense But what ! mean
Is that by being the head Of the
Church
The Chairman--He is supreme IN the
government As head Of the Church he
is the supreme head.
Senator Smoot--He Is the highest au-
thoity In the Church.
The Chairman--Am | to understand
you TO say that the Apostles are not
Prophets?
tanned as Prophets / qualified Il I'm
this way, by saying that ! do not think
a man is a Prophet at any time unless
he speaks by the spirit OF prophecy. or,
In other words. DO not believe that q
man has always the spirit of prophecy
upon him.
The Chairman think / can make
myself clear You think that the Pres
ident Of the Church communicates d.
rectly With God; that he has direct
revelations?
Senator Smooth God desired to
speak TO His people,i would be through
the President Of the Church.
The Chairman--Does God speak
through the Apostles in the same way?
Senator Smoot--Oh, no; not in the
same way.
Senator Overman-Then what do you
understand to be the authorities and
duties of the Twelve Apostles?
Senator Smoot-The Apostles are adj
visers to the Presidency Of the Church.
They meet with them and counsel with
them. and their duties are, Of course.
defined In the Doctrine and Covenants
they are those of directing the mis-
sionary work and as missionaries to
the world
Senator Overman-only in missionary
matters2
Senator Smooth was going TO say,
Mr.. Senator, and further than that, II
they are at home they are under the
direction OF the First Presidency, TO go
Into the stakes and organize those
stakes, providing they act by direction
OF the First Presidency. But an Apos-
tie has no more authority I'm a Stake
In Zion or a ward In which he lives
than lay member has, unless he has
been sent there by the Presidency to
act IN their stead.
Senator Overman--Does each one OF
them have separate and defined duties
to perform?
Senator Smoot--No, they have not
Senator Overman--They are only adj
vlsers OF the First Presidency?
Senator Smoot-The First Presidency.
Mr.. Tayler-And the seat OF the au-
thority that selects his successor?
Senator Smoot-When the President
dies the only authority for the direction
OF the Church rests with the Twelve
Apostles.
Mr.. Tayler-They act In the interim
as the head Of the Church, and nom.
mate the man who Ia 10 succeed the
dead PRESIDENT
Senator Smoot-Yes, sir
Mr.. TaylervNow, | also asked YOU
the other day whether II was not nee
essary that the Apostles should be
unanimous, and you said you thought
not.
Senator Smooth know they have not
been
Mr.. Tayler--Of course. they are not
unanimous at all stages. but read from
section l07 OF the Doctrine and Cove
nants verse 90;
"The IL travelling counselors
are called to the Twelve ApOs-
ties, or special witnesses Of the name
Of Christ, In all the world; thus differ
ing from other officers IN the Church In
the duties OF their calling"
Senator Smoot-Let me have the vol
ume please.
Mr.. Enthusiastically
Senator Smoot (readng) "The
Twelve travelling Counselors are called
to be the Twelve Apostles, or special
witnesses Of the name OF Christ. I'm all
the world thus differing from other
officers in the Church In the duties OF
their calling"
Mr.. Tayler-Those are the Twelve
Apostles?
Senator smoot-Yes; those arc the
Twelve Apostles.