Los Angeles herald., 1905-09-16
RECEIVES GRILLING
According to Statement Yesterday, He
Had Told Truth or Falsehood at
Trial, Whichever Was Most
Advantageous
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Mr.. Johnson asked the witness
whether he had told all that was done,
and Bunkers said he had except that
Jordan was to go into Hanlons saloon,
sit down in a box with the man who
was to deliver the money, and that
Emmons was to go in and take a look
at him, though he was not to say a
word. Bunkers said Emmons had
agreed to do so and did so.
On redirect examination Bunkers
told the district attorney that he had
been promised no immunity if he
would testify to the truth, but was
told that he would not be prosecuted
for having sworn falsely at his own
trial last spring.
Bunkers said that while Attorney
Jacobs appeared at his trial he had
never engaged him and could not
formally discharge him.
Clarence Grange, secretary-manager
Of the Phoenix Building and Loan as
sociation, was the next witness called
for the prosecution. He said he had
known Joseph S. Jordan for about five
years and that he saw him on the
ed day of January, 1905, at his (wit-
nessD house on Broadway, San Fran
cisco.
Prompted by Attorney Jones, Mr..
Grange started to tell the story of his
connection with Joe Jordan and the
incidents leading up to the ousting of
Bunkers, French, Wright and En-
mons from the senate and their SUBJ
sequent Indictment for taking bribe.
Mr.. johnson Objects
Mr.. Grange said that Jordan called
at his home in San Francisco the
evening of January 23, 1905, but here
Mr.. johnson interposed an objection,
that there had been moth
ing introduced in evidence to indi-
by the senators to act as a go-between.
He insisted that there had been moth
ing to show that Jordan had been
delegated to see Grange or anybody
else connected with building and loan
concerns.
He submitted that there had been no
proved and that until that
proof had been made the defendant
could not be bound by the acts of
Jordan, and Judge Hart held with Mr..
Johnson that if nothing had been
brought out in the evidence to connect
Jordan with the alleged conspirators,
they could not be bound by his acts.
Mr.. Seymour said in answer to a
question by Mr.. Johnson that he
claimed the right to introduce the evil
dence, and that it was entirely within
the power of the court to allow or re-
ject the testimony.
Mr.. Johnson objected to that view.
Judge Hart said that it had been held
by the courts that such evidence as
that sought to be introduced through
Grange of a statement of a second
party, without foundation, ought not
to be tolerated, but that if it was ad-
mitted in the same ruling it would
not be a reversible error If it was ad-
mitted. Judge Hart said the only
question was whether sufficient evil
dence had been introduced to show a
conspiracy had existed.
Mr.. Seymour said he expected to put
in other and corroborative testimony to
show that conspiracy existed.
Judge Hart overruled Mr.. Johnson's
objection, but held that the fact of a
could not be proved upon the
uncorroborated testimony of Jordan.
The testimony was admitted subject
to a motion to strike out If Mr.. Sey-
mour does not connect Jordan with
the conspiracy.
Then Mr.. Grange proceeded to tell
how Jordan had told him that "Hell
was popping; that subpoenas had been
issued for one building and loan con-
Germ and that others would follow for
the "big four"-the Continental, the
Phoenix, the Renters and the Pacific.
He told how he had told Jordan he was
willing to have the Phoenix investi-
gated; that Jordan said the committee
intended to make all kinds of trouble
and that If money was Forthcoming
there would be no investigation. The
witness explained that he had informed
Jordan he would have to see the other
companies and that Jordan told him
he would see Bunkers and French in
the meantime.
Testlfes as Formerly
The witness followed the line of his
testimony in the Bunkers trial. Jordan
told him he had had talk with Bunk
ers, and that he would come to see him
again; that the meeting for investiga-
ton was to be held the next Tuesday
Jordan saw witness again Sunday and
asked for "a propositions" witness gave
him one; Jordan said he would see
them-Bunkers and French-again.
At the Saturday afternoon or even
ing meeting Jordan told witness he ex-
pected to get evidence that would war
rant the issue of a warrant for the ar