The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1904-10-28
IN THE FOOTBALL WORLD.
RELATIVE VALUE or GOALS FROM
~; q, DR0P AND PLACE KICKS.
Capt. Graves Of west Point on the Cripple
! .I'9t Ltst--Hogan's' Words Of Comfort TO
IT,, His Mcn-Wrenn TO Umpire Yaie-
"" iPrincet0n Game--practice Of EleNens.-

4. Cooney OF thc Princeton football team
Z Kicked ten goals from touchdowne against
1LehRh last saturday, but his accomplish
!, nieht was put In the shade the very same any
* bNlG Curtin Of Michigan. who kicked eighteen
y1etfAlght goa Is from touchdowns In the game
against West Virginia Kicking goals from
l. tpuchdowns il merely a little side issue In
Auth ane sided games. but in close games IL
T,beiorass H. very Important issue ana IS tns n
ka.rcai test OF skill and nerve. II In doubtiui
~ there eyer was q goal kicker the equal OF
X. httleJ Hudson. the Indians great quarter
Back o. h lew years ago. lie'would, with the
X Areatest uneoncern. drop Kick his goals from
'Ntouclldowns scoInng the place KICK Ihetiiod.
on the subject of goal kicking the argument
ariscs annually whether a field goal from
piaderIent that l.. after n fair catch houid
count as ni,ich as drop kick. Each counts
four points. hut certeinly drop Kick repre-
sonts more team and individual skill
pE.ce kick from scrinlmGga Is worth as
q, 1nsch us q drop kick. but the free place kick,
following fair catch. Ia not. The rules
'-comn!lttee took step in the right direction
when it made touchdown count one point
more than drop kick goal and it would go
further in the same direction by making
place kick from o fair catch worth one point
less than the drop kick
Capt. Graves Of the West Point team is
in the hospital with a cracked rib. memento
of the debate with Yale last Saturday. II is
thought he Ia out Of the game for the rest
of the season and IL so. the Snfctters chances
$ on deing to Princeton what they did TO Yale
S.and what the Navy did to Princeton become
materially less Graves has been power
IN the West Point attack, dropping behind
.tha 4ne TO lead the way for the runner or
sNtakine the ball himself. though thus far this
aeqsoh he has taken the ball but little, The
West Point clptain is pretty good drop
kicker and dangerous on that account when
,eyer the ball Is in opponents territory. The
Eirst
SyInney tue full back and punter. Mettler
tEiiasGs.9raves's place at right tackle. and Is
sandy player. not without experience, but
not as finished player as his captain.
Coincidence In connection with the Nays
defeat of Princeton and the Army's defeat
OF Nale'is thar one of the most va liable men
on The two winning tea ms was hurt. Doug
Ian !he crack Navy tqi 1aeH Tef IeT from
itiAnent the game which gave West Point
Gs ns hasiern n te
essnE room Just aeT b be tSose Who hsd
addressed HE men. thus = want you fellows rs
sed sse ao saa todag ny You played GOOD football
and am proud Of you Eyer, hsesy man ma p!ayed
np no ,he to enhc
when YOU 60 put Of here want wa ,s every , man
G aex w1h sr not neaa Tx MRsy
McBrde and rafferty,. former Yale captains
h. ha al if'fh e 10 cap pt esptaned
that We're Sa n Ye T re sseeDps
:Si 9tSqs alter Two Years Of defeat and %fo
cai,tahed the strongest football team Yale
;evu turned out.
ssms Titf Ha &rs to.morox and sSe
.sy soEa to cara psy noPSs DR. ssme
snd take ADVANTAGE Of any m ra.sa, the
his taking advantage OF the enemy 8 mis-
takes" has come to be . more or less set for
Y. wishoa iosIssI would w. i Ss half Il
t athens da 81 tSss
'p eoSIness. TIE morale Of the team ls e. Gel
a Iii. season
:st6ah hast.S says DR. Williams head coach:
good as 1t was in 1908. O., ..' -
y. and Princeton have n ss,,Y.S Ghsesa sR
sas4a lss aNr po hf gvefts Wrenn former
& aS %tss Sseq sEssf Did %S L
back. and member Of the rules committee
s ss &es wTfS
one o. the most, ooompetent oficisls. while
etSeS Side ~oSd to the choice
but the comPro%!s,e seems to have 6Sen
eleven ven, Edwards knows the rules, comes as
Go fSs ana ~ maj R1nf But
course. he would not be chosen and would
not act in tue fale-Prinoeton game.
NHKns Mass Oct 21 The. e ne h.s of
dS SSon largely 10 the pereetns Of The backs
ga%n e Of Ft snd sa he
f ns4oba BY = i seod FORM tsT Tie bs1.mesiS
p bss bscf The to BACKS DONG sSod
ard Hubbard are N the finest possible shape.
I R po SGEee'nfi II he p practice sori%mase
vsa Is sFHy In f sa Nss
Tine. but they, were unable to advance. it.
and this this seems u.s. 10 Increase their eniclency,
oiin, ohss :ImpIo,Sed treaty In form and md
'"Ss sss BacE run centinuss TO be used with
st ana s M sr9 % eos be p'4 rurs sf
Very effective at critical points, Council.
ass ss Of n nSt make ssnS9h e
blR q sab position this year, Among the
now men Is Ellis Of last years Riyerview
pfsasn Is Halt 9 for SSf ' Is
: 'Sotnic Mack, rannper Of the Athletics.
@s sss9saSa and acs cross Be p%ssd
tabe , tsaep Of the PennsyIysnis team the
+Kan4e viii be PLACED on Frnnkin field Over
most the alumni of these Catholic institu-
items will 70 from this City to cheer on their
fayorltes for the fret time that these teams
.isscpaehed by former Cart cayppauEh of
,.Dartmonth ard be has Ore eleven. judy
tjnn fr0futhe Yale inc. played In the earlier
mart OF the senaon. In Reid who .prnts sixty
eetrsiE1 the Worcester tenn has one Of the
msst hnsfs Sbss daf sa and ca SrG
fo carry the ball, They are excellent ground
sG9lners.., ,>..;,- .,.'. .. 80 m. ......,
as6slarb as football. PLAYER. had, they hast
pprartjce before the Yale game yesterday at
american League Park In fear lest more
rafatsr he ndded TO rhe hospital list. Morley
cut Out che, GsgaI - Ein1fnafs practice. lie
7iAnr6ted the fiRpe 10 Working through signals
IN TOP speed ind protecting the trick plays.
THE nrw rUrnptions are copsidered very
afAerer ind @ill;probably old more than any
thing else to gain ground against the Billie.
2SAfA.s team IA dne 70 arrive In New York this
evening and will be quartered usual NJ
the Murray Hin Hotel Special trains will
be run on the subway, for the game, and u
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