The daily morning journal and courier., 1904-05-28
FRENCH GOVERNMENT UPHELD
AN EXCITING DEBATE IN THE
 CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.
Recall of Ambassador Nisard from the Vatican Approved by Vote of 427 to o5-EGorts of the Extreme Element for an Immediate Dissolution of the Relations of the Church and State Defeated.

for an Immediate Dissolution or the
 Relations of the Church and State
 Defeated.
 Paris. May 27.-After an exciting de- bate in which Premier Combe and For eigr Minister Delcasse set forth the action and purpose of the government towards the vatican. the chamber of deputies to-day, by an overwhelming vote approved the course of the govern ment in recalling M. Nisard, ambassa- dor to the vatican, and rejected all propositions of the extreme element for an immediate dissolution of the rela- tions between church and state. The vote approving the action of the gov ernment was APT to 95.
 A resolution proposed by M. Ferrette. republican nationalist. inviting the government to negotiate with Pope Plus for a reparation of church and sta.e was defeated by 507 to 1S A motion by M. Allard, socialist, to break off all relations with the vatican and denounce the concordat was defeated by 3s5 to 146.
 Premier Cornbes took the Initiative in resisting all efforts to force the govern- ment to extreme action and his request that all questions regarding the sepa- ration of church and state go over until next January has the effect of post poning separation beyond the present session of parliament.
 M. Ribot, the minority leader. was among those voting in support of the government.
 The debate attracted unusual atten- tion, and great crowds were present, in cluding Ambassador Porter and other members of the diplomatic corps.
 The principal speeches were those of Premier Combes and NJ. Delcasse. The premier asked the chamber to leave the debate to its true significance. The holy see. he said, in a document hurtful to France, had denounced to certain Eu- roDean powers the insult which 1t all leged the head of the French state had inicted upon 1t by returninfi, in the in- disputed capital of his Kingdom, the vis- # received from the kin sof Italy and by refusing to admit the claim of the ultramontane to prerogatives repre- sented as untenable. The government had answered his document by inlme- diately recalling the ambassador ito the vatican.
 This recall" said the premier, sig nifies that we cannot allow the holy see t ;v,fnry.a4 +1,e ,,,.aoar,oo of r,..,. y,n Iaa e. sador in Rome in a sense favorable to it's claims or to make use of this pre- ence to justify pretentions which we re- ject. It also means that we will not a1- low the papacy to intermeddle in our international relations and that we in tend to have done. once for all with the superannuated fiction of temporal power which disappeared thirty-four years ago We will not withdraw the whole sta ffaccredited to the vatican, as we are bound by the concordat to maintain at the vatican an agent of our govern ment for the carrying on of business. We cannot suppress the embassy and the concordat by dur own authority, for that role belongs to the chamber.
 Some speakers urge us to denounce the concordat without delay, but such a serious step should be preceded in by measures guaranteeing the republican state against the political risks which would be entailed by such a radical change in it's legislation and habits"
 Premier Con1bes went to to say that several schemes for ending the concor- dat were under consideration in com mittee and fl only remained for the chamber to have the question brought up for consideration immediately after the passage of the budget next Janu- ary.
 Seeing how the concordat is daily observed or rather violated by the church" continued the premier, some solution is necessary. We can no long, CT remain in this situation without bringing it to an issue. When the dis cussion comes up I will state the gov- ernment's opinion, but for the mo- ment ask the chamber to confine it's resolution to the measure forming the subject of this debate"
 Foreign Minister Delcasse, in his speech retraced the history of the ques-
  papal nuncio asked questions concern ing the eventuality of President Lou be.'s visiting Rome, to which M. Dell casse replied that he could not furnish the information.
 Coming to the immediate cause of the rupture he said that a Parisian paper published the text of the papal note as addressed to other powers, which was couched in terms of remonstrance accept The governments duty was clear as soon as the authenticity of the document had been proved. Three courses were ope11--to grant the ambas- sador leave, to recall him, or to sup press the embassy. The first seemed in adequate, the third was excessive and so the government decided on the sec- ond.
 M. Nisard was instructed, if he found the note to be authentic, or if an explanation regarding it had been re- fused he was to quit Rome immediate ly. The ambassador notified the for eign office that the papal secretary of state said he wanted the question put in writing. Meanwhile M. Delcasse, having obtained proof of the authentici- ty of the note, telegraphed the am- bassador that the secretary's attitude was equivalent to refusal of the de- sired explanation and that therefore M. Nisard must consider himself recalled.
 ''The government did what the digni- ty of the country required and with the