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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
M'ADOO CAUSTIC ON TIGHE.
Wroth Because Brooklyn Magistrate Dis
charged Disorderly Women.

Police Commissioner McAdoo was much wrought
up yesterday over the discharge Of a number of
alleged dsorderly women. arrested by Manhattan
policemen in the Adams-st. police court, in Brook
Ign, by Magistrate Tishe. The Commissioner thinks
the magistrate objects to Manhattan policemen
being sent Brooklyn to help close II up.
Many complaints have been received OF the
women who infest Fulton-st. from the bridge 10
the F1atbush-ave junction ana the nelghborinS
streets" said the Commissioner. The Brooklyn
policemen are becoming well known TO these
women that ii is almost impossible for them TO
make arrest
II have a transcript OF what transpired in Mag
istrate Tighe's court He talked very slurringy TO
the detectives. wanted to know II they had been
fishing and If they got any bites. and did not act
in a serious manner He discharged the women
with the remark: Now home and be good He
then attacked the detectives for making the ar
rests
II think it was very injurious to say the least,
and an extraordinary action the part OF Mag
istrate Tfghe talk that way Probably he thinks
il was invasion OF home rule. But that won I
make any difference to me | am responsible for
the whole city. and | shall continue 10 send any
men ] choose 90 Brooklyn. me evidence against
these women was clear, and sufficient to warrant
fines, and this makes the magistrates action more
remarkable. ! shall continue 10 pick up these
fast as l can in spite of such unjudcial
rulings.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
STRICKEN IN HIS PEW.
Priest and Congregation Pray for
DUNG Man.

John Doyle, of No. 4O7 West Twenty sixth-st.,
went TO st. Columba's Church, at Twenty-ffth-
ST. and Ninth-ave.. last night with his wife.
Father Crowley and a large congregation were
worshipping, when Doyle suddenly threw up his
hands and fell to the bottom of his pew. Those
in the pew with him, except his WIFE left it in a
fright The rest of the congregation was agi-
tated.
Father Mcdonald. who was in the lobby, heard
the commotion. rushed in and had Doyle carried
outside. Father Crowley then said to the con-
gregaton Let us pray for the recovery of this
sick man
Then he knelt down and the congregation also
knelt. Prayers were said, Father Crowley re-
citing and the congregation responding. This
continued until Doyle was receiving the last
rites of the church.
Father Mcdonald and Mrs. Doyle knelt by
Doyle's side and prayed until his death, which
due TO heart disease.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
C. & S. HOMES co. TO ISSUE MORE STOCK.
1T Will Offer 100000 in $40 Shares at Par
Desires Small Investors.

The City and Suburban Homes Company is about
20 issue 100000 new capital stock, OF the par
value OF $40 share the object OF the issue being
70 make further Investments in model tenement
houses IN the Borough of Manhattan. The com
psny, as is well known. is semi-phiIanthropic in
its operations; that is 10 the extent of limiting
me dividend TO investors and giving 10 tenants all
the added advantage possible consistent with a fair
commercial return
The assets. as shown in the balance sheet of Oc-
tober 81. 1893, the end Of the fiscal half wear in
cludeo &ZlS.s45 invested in model tenement house
estates and siS2. $50 invested in suburban estate
6domewooo), the total assets being So Sal Ii is
especially desired 10 have large number of small
investors among the stockholders in the company.
!. me shares OF the company were originally fixed
IN oenofnnauons OF SO each in order to encourage
subscriptions from small investors who now place
thelr FUNDS In savings banks The basis OF the
security Is improved NeW-York real estate and the
personnel OF the board Of directors gives a fair
guarantee mat the administration of the
anairs VIII be wisely and conservatively conducted
The city and Suburban Homes Company under
takes the care OF tenement house property for
otner owners, and has now fits books some Of
ne lowest class or property, which IL is admins
teTing successfully
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
HOME NEWS.
NETWORK CITY.

The officers and trustees OF the West Side Saw
ines Bank will celebrate the thirty-siNth ami
versary Of the opening Of that institution by a
dinner this evening at the Cafe Martin. DR..
Stephen G Cook Is president, John s. Sculy is the
first vice-president and o. Bigelow Is the second
ice-president Among the trustees David Nc
Clure, John W. Jacohus, Or n S. Westcott. T. r.
Somers II. l.. joyce, G. +. Marks. f. L. FruGone
and = +. MCGOWAN.
William Duke. the superintendent OF the New
York Cab Company. who recently made revelations
concerning the buying of Police and Fire Depart
ment places was discharged a technicality yes
terday I'm Special Sessions. and Immediately Ie-
arrested and held in $500 bail for examination on
Thursday.
Fire Commissioner Hayes and Chief Croker yes
terday gave to Mrs. Margaret J. PIant-Graves at
her home No 5S6 Fifth-ave.. gold fire line badge
IN appreciation of her kindness in endowing nos
pital beds for members OF the Fire Department.
Only one other women Miss Helen NJ. Gould has
been similarly honored.
Edward W. Field, Of the late Cyrus ". Field
returned Bellevue Hospital again last night and
asked to be treated for chronic alcoholism. He
was at Bellevue week ago. and discharged
after he had been there two days
District Attorney Jerome yesterday consented TO
the discharge OF bail i'm the case Of ex-Alderman
Dickinson. who was indicted last week on a charge
of attempted bribery. He said the indictment was
meant only warning officials.
George w. Marion. Deputy Assistant United
States Treasurer and cashier Of the Sub-Treasury
yesterday began his fortieth year in the service of
the Treasury Department at the Sub-Treasury He
appointed in 1865
The Iron Steamboat Company announces that on
and after Sunday, May 20. il will dispatch it's
steamboat Taurus from Pier new No. /, North
River, instead of Battery Landing. as at present.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
DISCHARGES IN BANKRUPTCY.

The following discharges in bankruptcy were filed
yesterday with the clerk Of the United States
District Court, having been granted by Judge
Holt:
TITLE COHEN furs. No. rs Ninth-ave.. liabilities.
SJ.J3S.
WILLIAM G. CoCHRANE. No 1877 West One-hundred-
and twenty Grst-st-; liabilities $12.27O
H. =. DISBECKER. New-Yor5 Athletic club. liabilities
S1.037.
WILLIAM c. GRIFFITHs. rice. No. III water-st: liza
bilites. SI1.5G5.
LOUIS D. KORNKEICHS. furniture No SIS Delaney - g.
liabilities $15.SG3
ADoLPH KAUFMAN rugs. No. 2s7s secoud-av LA
blIlties. $3.50.
AARON KEEPER sus9enders. No. 40 EIdridge- LA
biltes. $3.50.
MARY A. MACKEY. Poughkeepsis: liabilities. sIsst3
The bankrupt member Of tho hrm OF IL q
Murray <
MICHAEL G. OPPENHEIMER, builder. 356 West
one hundred and forty liabilities Slo SO;
ROBERT &. RATTRAY No. POI West one hundred md
ninety-ninth- St: liabilities. Sl,s25.
HELEN REDDICK. builder, No. g. Sixty-eightb 81
GEORGE SAMUELS theatrical manager No ao2
Broadway. liabilities. $22.416
MORRIS WARM tailor No "a West Twenty seventh .
liabilities. $5lS. ''
HENRY r. wILKERNING. No. 3IG West Thirty-nnth-
st. liabilities. $30.2l9-
ISAAC WOLFE. agent. No 20 East one hundred-a,d
fourtecnth-st.; liabilities, $l6l5
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
NEW-HAVEN TROLLEY LINE UNION.
Consolidated Railway Company Announced
by the Railroad Management.

New-Haven Conn, May 16-A movement to unite
all the trolley interests in its control into single
company to be known the Consolidated Railway
Company, was announced to-day by the New York
New-Hayen and Hartford Railroad Company. The
properties be united the Fair Haven and
WestvilIe Railroad Company, which owns all the
lines of railroad in this city and its vicinity
and the Worcester and Connecticut Eastern Rail-
Conn.
President c. s. MelIen, Of the New-York New
Haven and Hartford Company, said to-day that
the combination is 10 be effected under the charter
of the Worcester and Connecticut Eastern because
the terms of that charter more liberal and
elastic than those of the other company. Under
that charter the company will have authority TO
furnish light and power to any public or private
corporation in the State. 1t is said that other
trolley lines owned by the NewYork, New-Haven
and Hartford in this State will also eventually
pass into the consolidation. The terms Of the sale
have not been made known.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
". Z. MAKES NO MOVE.
McAd0o to Suppress PoOIrooms 1cith
"Outside" Help.

Police Commissioner McAdoo said to a Tribune
reporter yesterday that he hoped 10 be able an
nounce to-day that mysterious outside the
Western Union Telegraph Company from which
he says he expects to receive support in suppressng
poolrooms. Il shall possibly be able talk about
IT tomorrow" said he, but have been too much
occupied with other things to-day to get round
it,"
Jacob H. SChif who is believed 10 be one Of the
western Union directors who have expressed them
selves as unalterably opposed to serving pool
rooms, is expected to arrive here to-day from Eu-
rope on the Kaiser Wilhelm der Crosse. No legal
opinion could be obtained yesterday as whether
the Western Union charter be annulled, as stg-
gested by the Central Federated Union at Sundays
meeting. II must decline to discuss that" said
District Attorney jerome
NJ NJ. Dolphin. chairman Of the Central Fed
Grated Unions committee, said yesterday
7 have been directed 10 prepare brief showing
the requirements Of the charter of he Western
Union, and the duty Of the company to the public
as laid down by decisions Of the different courts.
both state and federal. l have also been directed
10 include In the brief statement of the refusaIs
of the company, heretofore to provide facilities
certain customers for the same service as the
poolrooms require. giving the reason that the
LAY did not require the company to supply that kind
Of service. and TO see IL the not that
these people refused to pay exorbitant prices for
this service.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
PETITIONS IN BANKRUPTCY

involuntary petition in bankruptcy filed yester
against SIEGFRIED WGLISLEIN. retail shoes 49,
sos and l. 146 Second ave, by Lawrence & smith md
other creditors with claims Of 1886 Preferences are al
legged. Marshal s. Hagar appointed receiver witb n
bond of $1,000.
An involuntary petition was filed against IOTrIe
SCHACKNE. hosiery. No. 10 walker-st. by Abegs q
Rusch and other creditors claims OF 50 736 ne
OF assets is alleged by petitioners Edward p
Finch appointed receiver. with bond IS 600 the
assets being estimated at so OOG.
JACOB GoLDINGER. retail jewsller, No. 81 Division
ST. filed petition showing liabilities
and assets Of $1,000 Alas ohn Co are the principal
creditors holding Of $500. The petitioner has
stock in trade valued SAID. and accounts sSGS Henr
Fletcher appointed receiver with bond Of $500
schedules In bankruptcy filed by BERNARD
GlNSBURG cloaks showing liabilities Of 81 2O7
sets OF NO1l. The principal creditors L. NJ. Stern
ana straussburger Heulen. two claims Of Ss3s each
Lhtzen Brothers. 81 bankrupt owEs according
10 the schedules. property 204 East Sxty-hrst
valued AT 1000 but mortgaged for S14 500 In add.
ZOE the bankrupt has stock IN trade. sl.7o0; fixtures
$500. anG accounts SSH
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
HEAVY GOLD SHIPMENT FOR TODAY
The Sending of $8,32O,OOO Will Empty
Assay Office of Exportable Bars.

Gold bars the amount Of Ss320ODO will be
shipped TO Paris by the Kaiser Wilhelm II. sailing
to-day from this port. In the total included an
additional $4,000 engaged yesterday by Goldman,
Sachs & Co., who had previously arranged for
sending s., 100000
The withdrawal Of this $4,000 leaves the Assay
Office emptied OF it's entire supply Of exportabIe
bars except for the g 10000 engaged on Saturday
by Lazard Freres which Will be shipped Thurs
day by the French steamer. The National City
Bank has engaged whatever additional gold bars
up 10 100000 in value, the Assay Office supply
for export Thursday and Saturday. 1t Is not
thought likely that large part of that order can
be filled, as the Assay Office little prospect
being able TO provide more than SlJ00,0O0 in bars
week. The Bank of France, il is understood, in its
desire to obtain gold has lessened its requirement
as to percentage of flneness, and will accept
gold $50 fine. instead Of 994. formerly.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
THE MOVEMENTS OF STEAMERS.
FNREIGN PORTs

shells MAY t4-sahed. steamer British Princess 'S'A
Hull. May l5-saiIed. steamer CoIoralo ,Br cox N'a
Bremen May Ii 1 p m-A.rived. steamer Baroars..e
Ger Meutz. New-York via Plymouth anu -
Hamburg Nav l2-Arrived steamers Mokta Ur CoS ss
savannah. 18th. Albano Ger. Kuienhold NS
18th August Norn Ger. WtchaUsen New Or
Havre May I6. Q a HI--Arrived. steamer la SAs9Ns-
err. Fourier New-YOrk. r..txs
Leghorn MAJ i5-Arrived. steamer italia tBr). bf's
Copenhagen MAY 1.-Arrived steamer Island ma
Holm. New-YOrk Via Christiansand ana ,nItS .rsnl
Croustadt MAY 1t-Arrived, steamer Loulsiaha
Andersen. New-Yori via Copenhagen yVaiacs
Suez. May 15-Arrived. steamer kenneoec thi'
Yokohama. etc, for New-Iork -s (-ouasrio
Singapore l6-Arrived previously steamers SRI
tTsrl. MCJsiu New-York for Manila. etc vincsaf.
Campbell New-York and Norfolk. VIA ? 80 Aien
CIV etc; Iudramayo tI{r'. Price, New AorN' -
Colombo for Manila. etc. Oh1
Barbados May 14-Sailed. steamer Iennyso" 49,
from Santos, etc). New-York Co.. r--i,ce (3Ls
Palermo Nav i4-Sailed. steamer Seihan F'"'
Banks. New-YoIk tsravsns
Manila MAY 1-Arrived steamer Indravelu t5rh us
Yokohama etc. fer New-York- ,,sr Worth
Cape Town. MAY l6-Arrved previously stee~< -atal
germ (Erl. Fairweather. New-Nork tor Fott Tropic
MontevdeO. May 16-Arrived previously, 80 90
t}Il. Barber, New-Nork for Buencs A1FeS
Gibraltar Nav 16Arrved steamer PRINCESS Irene iaai
Dnnnemann Nev-York for Naples ana Nsslsa-S V0l-
prOceededl; sailed steamer Koenisin Luise wv
(from Genoa and Naplesl, New YORK tBri
Southampton. May 16-ArrtVed. steamer Oefulls
Rartett New-York, via Gherbours VasSsU
Plymouth May is. lO:40 a ul-sailed steamer F'
(Cerl. Schrotter (from Hamburg New 10 Ssr,
Bermuda. NAV 1S-Arrirved steamer Pretoria 'N'tf
kenzie New-YOrk.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
ALLEGES BRUTAL TREATMENT OF SON.
Father Declares He Was Beaten and Was
Target for Teachers Knife

When RaTea Sanza. an artist. at No 227 Mott
st, charged with not sending his son Joseph.
twelve years old. the public school for the last
two months. counsel for the defendant declared
that he had kept his from school because Of
brutal treatment when he had heen sent
"Sanza." said the lawyer. was induced 10 send
Joseph TO the Catholic Protectory ono day. when
he visited his son there. ne found him in the
asylum hospital and when he asked the boy what
the matter was he said that he had been disobed-
ent. and was whipped twenty-five times
The father got his son out OF the ProteCtory as
soon as he could and sent him to the public school
in Marion-st. After he had been in the school
about three months he came home day bleed
Ing, and had the end OF broken knife in his nose
He told his father that he had dropped his slate
the floor and the teacher. in a rage. had thrown
penknfe at him"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
TROUBLE FEARED IN COLOMBIA.
Commander in Chief of Army Called on to
Resign, but Refuses.

Colon, May 16.-According 10 news received
here from Bogota, President Marroquin is re-
moving the chiefs of the army who are i'm favor
of DR.. Joaquin Velez for President id is sub
shutting the followers of General RAFAEL Reyes.
Among the number called upon to resign is Gen
eral Gonzales Valencia. who holds tie position
of commander in chief of the army% II is ru-
mored that General Valencia ohstinately declines
to resign, and the opinion is freely expressed
that serious internal troubles are impending
owing TO the attitude of the partisans of Veez
and Reyes.
The government officials at Bogota appear to
favor the election of General Reyes.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
BRICKLAYERs VOTE TO AMALGAMATE
Few Members of the Nine Unions Get to
Polls, However.

The referendum vote taken on Saturday tho
Murray Hill Lyceum on the question Of amalgamat-
ing the nine bricklayers' unions OF Manhattan and
The Bronx was public yesterday. and showed
a majority of seventy-ive in favor Of the project.
out OF nine thousand members in the nine unions
however, only fifteen hundred cast their on
Saturdays Bricklayers Unions II and 35. composed
of Germans, had previously voted at meetings Of
their own against amalgamation, and they have
twenty-five hundred members alone The small
vote on Saturday is ascrbed to the fact that
notice was given in the call for the referendum
vote 1t is thought the question may be put TO Il
again.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
BOND CONVERSION SYNDICATE TO END.

The United States Steel bond conversion syndi-
cate is be wound up to-day. according to notice
sent to the members time ago by J. p Nor
gan * Co. tho syndicate managers. Tho syndicate
has received from the Steel Corporation a cash
commission of $6.S00Q0) for conversion and will to-
day raw it 50 OO00N cash and receive in return the
Sl2UO60OO cash bonds from the corporation Mem
bers of the syndicate are expected to receive Dro
rata to-day rearly S00O0O00 Of Steel Corpora ton
second mortgage bonds, including the 81 COO 900
cnsh hnnhs. for which paid.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
SHIPPING NEWS.
Port of New-York, Monday, May 16, 1904.

Steamer Minneapolis tsrl Gates. London May = to
and mdse. Arrived at the Bar at e:OS
White Line with mdse. Arrived al the Tor an
.
and Shields Philip Ruprecht ballast Arrived
at the Bar IN. MAY 10. latitude a. longitude
SaOi passed bark Bergslien tSor). from Galway for
Bay Vert
steamer United States DAM wuln. Copenhagen MAY
Chrstania and Chrtstiansand 6, FNunch. Edye q
Co with 12e cabin and 1870 passengers ana
ladse. the Bar 2 a NJ -
Steamer DAM. Gundel.
Chrstiania CrIstiansand so 10 Punch Edve e Co
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
NETWORK AUTO" CATCHES FIRE.
Fire Department at Stamford Called Out
Woman Faints in Machine.
lBT TELEGRAPH TO rHE rRrBryr.

stamford. Conn. May l6-The Fire Department
here was called out tonight put out a fire in an
automobile The machine was a large special one
owned by the Mobile Storage Company, New-York
and was bound back TO New-York from Noroton
Aboard were a party of two men and two vyor,sp
hne the motorman, Robert Thwaite
Near the Stamford Hospital a screw dropned o,t
OF the machine and the gasolene came In contact
WIN an electric spark. In a moment the machine
Vas IN names One Of the women tainted and the
otnef sat helpless while their escorts were drag
tlng mem out OF the blazing machine. The driver
ffht WoTd Tor The Fire Department The machine
y as rendered useless by the fire. The party re-
fhtir names ~' NNN'''t" ~ give
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
BIG WORLDS FAIR POLICY.
- TELEGRAPH To THE TRIBuNE. |

III IELE3RAFH 10 TIE IkIBUNE-I
Baltimore. Nav 16.-An insurance policy on which
the premium amounts TO So 900 has been issued nv
the Maryland Casualty Company to protect the
Louisiana Purchase Exposition COMPANY fror,
claims on account Of accidents the fair groun DE-
resulting from its own acts or those of EMPLOYEES
The insurance company. in figuring on the Iiahiiit,,
estimated that 100000 people would attend tSa
exposition. N ING
The policy does not cover the liability q, ax-
hibitors concessionaiTes. It is limited 70 ~
avenues OF the exposition grounds and the otsIee
o. buildings. IL does not cover spaces or budines
not under control OF the exposition raanagen1e5f
such as state and foreign buildings :
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
PATRICK TRIAL RECORD voLUMINoUs.

Albany May 16.-The printed record of the trial
murder Of William NJ. Rice. in New-York City is
now complete and is expected to be filed within
few days in the Court of Appeals. Ex-senator Da-
vd E. Hill has Joined John c. TomlinsOn and
Francis L. Wellman in the for Patrick and
has received copy of the record. The record on
appeal is said 10 be the largest ever made in any
case in this country. II contains seventeen thou
sand pages and five million words.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
AMERICAN MARKsMEN TO CHALLENGE
Return Cable Match with French Shooting
Club Is Expected

Conscious that they had done their best. and
making the hest Of their defeat the American
team of fifteen marksmen who shot last week
against a team Of the Cercle des Carabiniers de
Paris. spoke yesterday In praise of the victors j.
e. Silliman. a member of the team. and moving
spirit I'm the Manhattan Rife and Revolver Asso-
citation, said that in the near future "A challenge
for return match on the same lines would prob
ably he presented
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
SPECIAL SALE OF PIANOS.

special spring sale of pianolas pianos and
Aeol.ans that had been taken in exchange by the
Aeolian Company began yesterday at the AeoIan
Building No. 362 Fifth-ave. In it's announcement
the Aeolian Company asserts that even its ov,n
statesmen could not distinguish some of these in
struments from entirely ones "
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
oCToGENARIAN'S MARRIAGE SECRET
Welded Five Months Ago Teacher Who
Wanted to Finish Term
Icy TELEGRAPH To THE TRIBUNE.

Middletown. y. Y. May ls.-ColoneI Samuel y.
Wood. eighty years old. formerly well known
commission merchant I'm Dey-st., New-York and
Miss Jeanette Nelson. daughter Of the late Rev.
Mr. Nelson. a Presbyterian minister at South Cen
tire HIN. married about three months ago at
Warwick. and the secret kept until to-day.
when relatives accidentally discovered the fact.
Colonel Wood is wcll-to-do. and has several mar
red children and q married grandson. His wtts
is about forty wears old. and teaches school at
Campbell Hall She did not wish to give ~ her
school until the end Of the term; hence the secret
koIt
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
BUSINESS TROUBLES.

The schedules in assignment benjamin Ciruher
dealer in tinsmths supplies, No. 500 Third
liabilities S45OS; nominal assets $T79; assets
$3215 $50
The Sheriff yesterday received attachment $43e
against property o q. S Zeena1
manufacturers silver novelties, No. West Broad
way. in favor or Samuel Schwart on assigned claim
Of the William +. RenZlehausen Company for siiver
silver solder Their place Of business was closed
Ncaf
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-05-17
JUDGM EMS.

The following judgments filed yesterday. the
first name being that of the debtor
Florsheim. Norman and simon-O b Cross. S1.2t4
Haas Louis-Candee & Smith. Observation-Disclosures. cog
Rhodenburg, Theodore He II Onerman and -'-'