The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1904-04-01
SHARP C0LLOQUY
IN THE SENATE
Patterson Of Colorado and Clark
of Wyoming Participate.
LAND LAWS ARE DISCUSSED
EACH QUESTIONED TIE orHERs
VERACTTY.


peal OF the desert land, the timber and
stone and the homestead Communication
laws and the postotHce appropriation
bin.
The repeal bill was taken up only for
the purpose Of discussion, and Mr..
Clark OF Wyoming was the principal
speaker. he contested the position
taken by Mr.. Gibson that there have
been great frauds IN the administration
Of the land laws in the west he de-
clared that there is a. lobby in Wash
lngton in the interest OF the repeal bill.
and engaged IN a short cOllOquy with
Mr. Patterson, during which each char
acterized the statement OF the other
as untrue.
The general debate on the postofics
bill was confined largely 70 a speech
by Mr. McCreary and Interruptions by
Republican senators. Mr.. McCreary
charged, in the main. that the policy
OF an early adjournment OF congress
had been adopted in order to avoid leg
islation not desired by the Republican
leaders.
Bills Passed.
The senate passed a joint resolu-
tion providing for the printing Of 1000
copies of the record Of the Northern
Securities merger case in the supreme
court for free distribution.
The following bills and resolutions
were also passed:
Providing FOR the appointment or
members Of the board of managers OF
the National Soldiers home, Martin T.
Mcmahon Of New York. John n. HOley
OF Wisconsin. William Ward OF AIissOu-
ri, Henry w Markham Of California
Henry L. Palmer Of Nebraska and
Franklin Murphy of New Jersey.
Setting apart 200 acres Of land at
Hot Springs. s. D., as a public park.
Clark Of Wyoming.
Mr.. Clark of wyoming then addressed
the senate on the bill repeating the des-
ert land and other land laws. He took
issue with the statements Of Mr.. Glib
son, charging fraud in the administra-
ton Of the land laws. He expressed
the opinion that II the bin should be-
come a law fl would absolutely stop
the development Of the semi-arid re-
giOn.
Mr.. Clark criticised the operation OF
the forest reserve law, saying that IN
der it two-thirds of the area Of his
own county had been withdrawn from
entry, This was not the fault of the
law. nor were the frauds committed
under the desert land act or the tim
! Der and stone act chargeable to the
( law. Moreover. he did not believe that
the frauds are as extensive as charged.
For himself, he was not willing TO ad-
/ nit that the people Of his state are
/ engaged in theft. He admitted the
/ great benefit Of the homestead act in
the past, but cOntended that, unaided
I by other laws. this could not be used
as a vehicle for the settlement Of the
arid region.
Commissions Work.
Mr.. Clark spoke Of the work OF the
] FL sw4#- 10
I 70 investigate the operations OF land
4 laws, saying that it is a sufficient de-
/ Tense against the charge Of 1mpetuOsl-
/ " made against the chief executive.
/ He charged the agitation for a repeal
/ Of the land laws TO the owners OF large
\ bodies of railroad grant lands in the
/ west. The effect Of the repeal, he said,
4 would be to take out Of the market
/ every acre Of public land But the
public lands still would be Sold AR
| clark said. and he outlined system OF
/ substitution by means OF Forest re-
/ serve scrip secured through the dlspp-
| sition Of railroad lands in forest re-
serves for other lands. saying that IL
/ Mr.. GibsOn's bill should become a law
the value of all this land would be
doubled. He added:
Vague Charges.
Never in the history OF land legisla-
ton has there been such determined,
such a barefaced lobby as is behind
mis- LEGISLATION. and which has been
pressing il for the past three years il
is no secret that one OF the largest
holders Of these lands recently mas
boasted at a public banquet that ne
had contributed Sz5,V5V Tor the pun pO'-
Mr.. Gibson and Mr.. Patterson both
demanded the name Of the man IN
o1estion. but Mr.. Clark declined 10
give il to the senate. saying ne WouIu
not enter into personalities OF ma
character in the senate, but ne Wouio
Eve the name TO any senator VINO
might wish IT, a.A
Il think" said Mr.. Patterson, that
the name should be given here; that
man should be known ana De branded
fbroughcut the country
Preceding. Mr.. Patterson oeIllanoeo
! tLat Mr.. clark should say VINO eohstl-
tutes the lobby here IN the interest OF
the repeal bill
Clark Given the Lie.
NJ ozark again declined. but said
the senator from Colorado knew VINO
constituted the lobby
Mr.. Patterson replied promptly
when the senator from " o-li. -
says that know VINO co-ls - 1919
lobby of which he complains, ne speaAs
r hastily and without justification Ihere
:" not one word Of truth in that state
- ment. ~ ,,,,,,,t
Mr.. Clark replied that ne hao Inea l-ls
. merely to say that Mr.. Patterson must
= have observed the lobby, and he Win
49, the statement that the Colorado
senator had had positive knowledge OF
its existence. .,-.,...., "a.
/, Replying. Mr.. Patterson adlnlIIed nl-
{ s,-,,,5afI,v- With the movement Tor thee
!. reDeal of the land laws, and SAID ma
I This sympathy was due to the 1aeL Ia
he lives in a public lands state ana helo
= bsd onnortunity to observe the opera
L lions Of these laws. BE expressed the
e o,,iT5on that eight out of ten acres OF
!, land in Colorado and wyoming nae
been secured through trauduieh'
'i''''- Lie Passed Back.
n NJ r,larl,-"I know nothing about con
: 7j4io1,s in colorado. but what the senator
ss7-s about Weoming is unQualIieoly ul'
L Vim this the incident closed
ts r-l,e nosroffiCc appropriation piu We
). +aI-er m llr. McCreary reao from ~.
:, ! -9.ssss ce Of the president IN regard 10 tl'
q rirsf assistant postmaster general o.
n &c and of the indictments agalns
) fses,-aTs Nachen. Tyner and other OF
s5c,ei~ 70 show conditions in the depart
Il uent. which he said warranted anu ni-iu
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