New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-01-08

COLDlfl2uOnS several ufneS. he was not inter
ested in the first underwriting. he said. although
he had read Nixons testimony that he had been
asked TO be underwater.
AS TO NIXON'S VERACITY.
o.-Did you or not call up Mr. Nixon in 1901,
about the time OF the LnderTnan contract and tell
him oyer the long distance teePhone d ft have mao no
CatskiiI Mountains on the long distance telephone
ard told him you had bought the Both ehem plant
to 0 Pas You on MS SITPPNSiS Mons ' ysracit5
Q-Is your recollection such say positively
that you did speak 10 Mr.. Nixon over the te!e-
phone. Al could not answer that spoke to Mr..
Nixon and others about the purchase Of the Beth
DID you discuss with Mr.. Nixon the proposed
C-What was Mr. Nixon's chief interest in talk
ing with you? Al have no idea; you must ask
was to assist yo PURPOSE in Is s.ri MR s yGS
with him were matters Of general interest ohly'
A FLAsHLIGHT EPISODE
Just as Mr.. Untermyer reached the end Of a
long question there a muffied explosion IN
the room. which caused counsel, witnesses and
others IN the room to start and which brought
proceedings 10 q sudden stop. The commotion
caused by the taking Of a flashlight picture
Of the assemblage. A young fellow, wearing a
white sweater under his Jacket. and sitting on
the Fulton-st. side OF the room. had been rails
ing and lowering n big camera, which was
trained upon Mt. Schwab. When the proper
focus WAS obtained, the young man beckoned
twice with his finger to another youth standing
a half-dozen feet TO his right, who thereupon
raised aloft a narrow board, on which
lashlight powder and exploding cap, and
pulled string which depended from the board.
There a puff sound and n binding fash,
followed by thick smoke. The fashlight manip
ulator tucked his board under his arm and sided
toward the door. quickening his pace to
a cry OF Seize him. was raised and two or
three men started to capture him. He dashed
through the door and down the stairs. but was
captured in the hallway and returned TO the
room. where the examiner and counsel decided
not TO hold him.
Meanwhile. the custodian Of the camera hay
ing secured his picture. slid the instrument
under his chair and remained for five or ten
minutes calmly watching the efforts made to rid
the room Of the smoke; a recess was taken while
the windows were raised and the doors were
opened After Mr.. Untermyer had resumed the
examination of Mr. SchwRb the photographer
arose. grasped his camera. over which he threw
his big overcoat. and, unmolested and unsuspect-
ed. left the room.
ARMOR PLATE CONTRACTS
Q:-You are aware OF the fact that government
tween the Bethlehem and Carnegie companies? A.
Q.-Both Secretary Herbert and Secretary Whit
OF the Navy told you that there was to be no
Q.-But you understood that if the bids were
the same the armOr plate contracts we're TO be d.
works2 A-What understood was that the gov
eminent let 1t be known that it would be the only
customer for armor plate when the works were
Q.EYou are not willing to admit that you are
dealing with the government on behalf Of Bethle-
,Q.-Do you admit you are the power behind the
throne IN dictating the policy OF Bethlehem? A.
I don't know what you mean by power behind the
throne"
Q.-1Oh, I thought English was understood by
Q.-What I meant to ask you IS are you the con-
trolling factor IN Bethlehem,s policy? Az you
mean that l the controlling stock of Bethle-
hem and the shipbuilding company. I DO. and take
the credit of giving advice to the management OF
o.EWhen was the. control of tho bethlehem
Q.-After You had closed the transaction2 A
Q.-Did you designate who should stay IN and
who should so out? Al. Pierpont Morgan ana
Q.-And you reorganized the Bethlehem com
pany2 Ayes; and introduced methods.
Q.-Do you admit that Mr.. McIlvaine was put
QGAnd the same is true as to Max Pam. Mar
shall 3. Ward. Charles w Baker and Archibald
Q-Why didn't you go into the board yourself?
o.Z5Yoq had control Of the shipbuilding com
QEYon had the control Of s25.ooooOo Of stook7
Q-You considered YOU were entitled to control
Bethlehem even after you sold It? Al did
wasn't going 10 leave valuable property 70 go 10
wreck and ruin
TITS pretty hard TO control some men," added
Mr.. schwab.
Adjournment was then taken until next Tues
day morning. The hearing will continue on
Wednesday and Thursday. Mt Guthrie pro-
tested against delay IN the proceedings, saying
he wished TO go from day to day and at
least four days week.