New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-06-29
REGENTS DISCUSS WORK.
MANY Varied SUBJECTS.
Gardiner Outlines Nezc System
ConUoc0ti0p Ends.
icy TELEGRAPH TO The TRIRUEr.l

Irhsnv June 2g-The second and final day Of the
convocaton OF ;he University Of the State OF New
York was marked by q wider range or discussion
Than ever known in the history OF that body. El2-
znenrary ana secondary education, as well as h'ra
or education. furnished variety OF topics OF dis
cussion. Under the head OF the True Expans.SI
a, the Empire State" Charles A Gardiner out
lined a new and sweeping place for standardizin
che high schools OF the State. Albert VanderVeel
ssfni,srly indicated q definite programme in dis
cussing The ACCESSIBILITY OF Registering College
Courses as the Equivalent of the First Year In
Medical School" Both these Regents discussed
their subjects in full detail In the field OF SEQ
oudary education. James E. Russell. dean OF
Teachers College IN speaking Of The Future De-
veloprnent Of Exarnina tions unsparingly arragned
certain phases OF existing college entrance exani-
nations william J. Milne, president Of the New
York State College. laid special stress upon other
limitations OF examinations in discussing quail
ncstions OF Teaching Not Determined by Exarni-
nation"
In the morning a single session was held in the
Senate chamber. Addresses were 6ellvere1 by sew
eraI speakers and a general discussion followed
+ P Gor6y. dean of New-YOrk University, read
paper on The Function OF the University Schools
Of Pedagogy" A B. Bruhacher read q second
paper on The Content Of Secondary Education"
and c. F. Franklin district superintendent of
Eew-York a third on the question us II Desirable
20 Lessen the Number OF State Educational Gather
.ngs?" Following this last paper there was q gen
sral discussion. and resolution was passed re
guessing the Chancellor to appoint q committee OF
five TO Investigate the subject on which many
varying opinions were expressed.
Three separate sessions were held IN the AFTER
NOON one devoted to the consideration OF questions
Of higher education and another to questions OF
secondary education. and a third TO questions IN
elementary education. The first session was en-
.arelv devoted 10 the discussion Of the question OF
the relation Of medical to other schools and col
lsges and the advisability OF substituting a seven
for an eight year course by combining the senior
academic year with the freshman medical year
The ma jority OF the speakers opposed this in so far
II implied weakening Of the medical school re-
Cuirements
The first speaker was Dr. Albert vanderveer.
Recent Dr. vanderveer favored the teaching Of
certain medical subjects in undergraduate col
iezes such az primary anatomy, histology ana
medical botany thus permitting advance work IN
these subjects IN the first year IN the medical
colleges He argued in favor OF seven year
course and expressed the belief that definite
ARRANGEMENT OF this question was approaching He
believed that encouragement should be given TO
the seven year plan, for without IT. he declared
there was danger that young men would go d.
rectly from the high school to medical colleges,
danger which he said. should be avoided. He
read large number Of opinions Of varying nature
On the question, outlined possible curriculum for
first wear medical work in colleges and closed by
declaring that while Independent colleges might
fnd II difacult nevertheless universities having
medical departments could arrange for such
courses He believed that the Independent col
leges would also find it possible on the basis sug-
Eested by the Regents.
A somewhat different view presented by
William H Watken. dean OF the Kentucky School
Of Medicine who took the negative OF the question,
'Should the regents register combined baccalaureate
and medical courses Of other colleges?" He said
that the sooner the State board refused recognition
10 medical schools requiring less than four regular
courses in four separate years the better IL would
be for all concerned He said, in part:
CodMERCIALLsM IN SCHOOLS.
The requirement by State authorities Of attendance
for four years in medical college is both logical
Is IN fhe interest Of 0 3 be sg II ae
the power Of the physician in his efforts prevent
upon the privilege Of allowing time credit for
bachelors degree or for work done in college is in
nuenced by nerclahsrn, and IS not in sympathy
with the spirit Of The
Charles H. Frazier dean OF the University OF
Pennsylvania took a somewhat similar view In
discussing the subject. What Minimum Require
r2erts Should Be Required by the Regents FOR Such
Admission TO Advanced standing?" Dean Fraz er
drew gloomy picture Of the overcrowding OF the
medical profession and the large percentage Of
failures IN IL. He urged strongly that the Regents
IN the near future raise minimum requirements for
admission to medical schools Rush Rhees presi-
dent Of the University Of Rochester speaking for
the independent colleges. favored a policy among
such Institutions Of counting first year medical
work done by seniors in their colleges
In the session devoted to the discussion Of sec
ondaTy education. James E. Russell dean of Teach
srs College read paper The Future Develop
ment OF EXamna tons Dean Russell took a
oeprecstory tone in dealing with the examination
and particularly with the college entrance test
Die pointed out that cheating was distInc. result
OF the present protective examination. that is an
examination intended to exclude the unworthy and
unfit He said that such cheating was not re-
sarded as heinous offence in schooiboy ethics
because the boys felt that. as contrasted with
sthletic contests. examinations were not fair nor
oid the honest effort receive reward. as on the
athletic field. owing TO the conditions Of the pres
snt examination. He particularly noted the effect
upon the teacher Of the college entrance exauina-
don Broad methods and conceptions Of teaching.
he pointed out gave way slowly to the examining
ot pupils through the medium Of old examination