The sun., 1904-08-31
MOTORMEN TO SEE BELMONT.
STILL SEEK CONCESSIONS ON
SUBWAY PLACES.
Conference With General Manager Bryan
Fruitless. and Grand CHIEF Stone VIII
He Present at TO-day's Meeting
Neither Side Yet Expects q Strike.


E. P Bryan, vce-presdent and general
manager of the Interborough Rapid Transit
Company, and representatives OF the ele-
waited railroad motormen met yesterday
in Mr.. Bryan's office, 1876 Broadway. There
will be a second conference at noon to-day,
at which August Belmont and Grand Chief
Stone of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers also will be present. To-day's
conference will be held in Mr.. Belmont's
office, % Nassau street.
Nothing came OF the conference yesterday,
and it is not believed that anything def
mite will come Of the conference to-day,
although no word has come from Mr. Bel
mont as to his attitude in the present con-
troversy.
The elevated railroad motornen, under
an old agreement made when they were
steam engineers, get 50 so a day OF nine
hours. Under another agreement, verbal
one, men employed on the elevated are
to have the preference according to seniority
OF service in filing places in the subway,
but the Interborough plans to pay only
50 day for ten hours work on the subway
a rate higher than that on surface electric
lines.
Two bodies of workmen have been rep
resented in the negotiations with Mr..
Bryan--the Amalgamated Association OF
Street Railroad Employees and the engi-
neers' brotherhood. The demands and
complaints Of the former were quickly met
and settled, but the elevated motormen
who were once steam engineers form Local
los of the brotherhood, and its members
saw in the payment Of So per day to subway
motormen danger to the interests of that
body, particularly in view OF the increased
substitution of electricity for steam on the
leading railroads Of the country.
So Local los submitted to Mr.. Bryan
a proposition an uitimatum--that the
subway motormen get the same hours and
pay as the elevated railway motornen.
Mr.. Bryan replied giving the reasons, in
letter three pages long, why the company
could not meet the motormen's wishes.
On Monday w. L. Jercks, representing
the motornen, called up Mr.. Bryan on the
telephone and asked him If he would re-
ceive a committee Of the motormen. Mr..
BRYAN was willing to meet them but said
that II they had nothing new to offer there
was little hope Of any good resulting. The
meeting was held al IL o'clock. Mr.. Bryan
and Supt. Hed!ey represented the Inter
borough company. Mr.. Jencks and a COM
mittee OF sixteen represented the motorinen.
The discussion lasted about an hour and
half and was without result.
Grand Chief Stone had already been
summoned to New York, arriving Sat
urday last 1t was proposed by MIR Jencks
that there be another conference to in
clude Mr.. stone and Mr. Belmont, and this
was arranged. Mr.. Belmont Mr. Bryan
and probably Mr.. Hedley will represent
the marlborough company Mr.: Stone, Mr. !;
Jencks and Mr.. Pinney Of the Brotherhood
OF Locomotive Fircmen will represent tho
elevated railway motormen.
Those who are best able to judge say
that to-day's conference is likely to pro-
tl,lce no better results than yesterday g
so far as changing the cornpany's attitude
with reference to the subway motormen'S
hours and pay is concerned.
II do not believe that there will be any
strike said Mr., Stone yesterday. "Mr
Belmont Is a plutocrat, so represented
Maybe Just at the present time he would
like to figure as settling labor contro-
"Rut we do not go around carrying a
chip on our shoulder. We dropped the
word grievance from our vocabulary
because it savored too much of that,
We believe in giving the other fellow
chance and not demanding everything
ourselves"
There was .alk yesterday of 'elcgraphing
20 Mr. callahan, chief of the brotherhood
OF Locomotive TTeHPH, ~ 'oH' lTCIH
Peoria. III but Mr., Stone expressed doubt s
as 10 Mr. Ealahans coming.
1T is about the time Of the apn!al con-
ven,ion Of tho Bro' 'herhood Of Fremen, !"
said Mr.. Stone, land think it might be
difficult for him IA come. If he came 1t
ould he in an advisory capacity. sup
pose It is solely in that capacity that
am herr"
Il am at loss 10 understand the position
Of tie Brotherhood Of Locomotive Engineers
in tho ma ter" said Mr.. Bryan As |
urclers AID the constitutional rules under
hich the brot herhood is conducted, 4 sym
ra' he ic strike, strike ordered TO benefit
outside organic atoms. is ul'ra-constitu-
,ional cannot conceive that strike in
this case is possible