The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1904-03-29

but great many other people, that
the thing looked ugly for his folks, and
that he could not ask me to make any
agreement and would not do 50. That he
had nothing to offer and that the terms
would be any agreement that we might
make. | said you know I cannot make
any agreement with you about the mat
ter. In the first place it is in the hands
of the court. and that in the next place
as Governor / would not make any. He
said you know me, perhaps as well as
any living man: | think | have the repu-
tation among men generally, and you in
particular of being n kindly natured man.
if you people quit and get out of here you
know | have no disposition to hound
anybady down, and l think tina after the
people of the State get IN good humOr,
after this even they will not care whether
your clients are sent to the penitentiary or
not / have accomplished what l want
ed as far as | am concerned: that is. to
teach the people that they could not deal
with the State after this fashion. Judge
Robinson said he did not expect me TO
enter into any agreement, knowing |
could not do it: knew if I did it l could
not control it, but that if that was my
attitude about it, he was satisfied. ex-
cept that he did have some apprehension
about. Mr. Daniels of the News and OBJ
server Mr.. Gray had seen Mr.. Daniels,
and that Mr. Daniels said if they got out
of this thing that he should not pursue
the matter any further himself. And
stated that to Judge Robinson.
THAT is the sum and substance of any
agreement which / have made Judge
Robinson and Mr.. Clark came to my
office together. and l sat down between
them, and Judge Robinson said he had
seen in the papers an attack on the cor
spirators as having turned liars by
sorting that an agreement had been
made, and that he supposed that it was
understood that he was a liar. l said
No, Judge, l never supposed that you
ever stated that made any agreement
| have told you that | could not make
any agreement, but that have stated that
| if these people go out. l had taught the
lesson that ! intended to leach, and that
did not care to pursue the matter any
further Col. Hinsdale came to see me
about it. and l went through the state
ment with him. Mr.. Jones and Judge
Robinson came to my office together, and
let Judge Robinson state the conversation
that occurred between US, and he stated
it with substantial accuracy Mr. Jones
said he wanted to know what to do, and
/ told him l would see him Saturday and
tell him what my views were. l said to
him, and say now. that ! had accom-
plished all that | set out to accom-
plish, and / taught these gentlemen that
they could not deal with North Carolina
after this fashion. said then, and l
say now. that I could not enter into any
agreement with them that they should
not be prosecuted l am not IN the habit
of giving instructions to Solicitors wheth-
er to prosecute or not to prosecute. The
Solicitor of North Carolina would not
take instructions from me If l gave
! them
O. (By Attorney GeneraD care you not
aware that the Attorney General IN
these conferences, took similar posi-
tion?" A. 81 am. l supposed that Judge
Robinson went to see Mr. Tillett. / don't
know whether he did or not
Cross examination (by Judge Robin
SOM.
| G. Il suppose it is rather late in the
day for us to attempt to take any issue
as to what took place. Governor. l think
you have stated substantially what took
place." A. 81 certainly did"
| y. ~ OH dld not tnl1k L would Detray
that confidence by having a conversa-
ton with the counse?" A. Il expected
/ you to state to your associate counsel ex-
actly what occurred between US. 1 might
add that am not surprised at your asso-
ciate counsel taking the first opportunity
to tell it,
O. you don't know of my telling it
to anybody except my associates?' A. Il
do not
G. Il told you l would not tell it. You
suggested that l consult with the asso-
ciate counsel in the equity suit?" A. "Of
course l did. That is( l assented''
@. And I told you that 1 would see
you in the morning at 9o'clock. And
while we were in your office, the en-
ployed counsel, Mr.. Tillett, came by and
we called him in, and afterwards Mr. Til
lett and l went to see the Attorney Cen
eral Then | came back to your office
and stated that the Attorney General and
Mr.. Tilett were not willing to enter
into any arrangement hereby ,nis prose-
cution should be stopped in case the pro-
ceeding in the United States Court was
dropped. l told you that?" A. yes