The Montgomery advertiser., 1904-03-23
WINNIE IS A WITNESS
APPEARS BEFORE THE MCCALL
 COMMITTEES.
First Assistant Postmaster General Gives Account of the Preparing of the List Given to Chair
 man QYerstrcet.

Washington, March 22-The Mccall Icommittee today continued it's investiga- ton of the indictments of members of First Assistant Postmaster General | Wayne, ". s. Waters. superintendent of salaries and allowance division, and Charles P. Granfeld. assistant superin- tendent of that division, were before the Icommittee.
 Mir. Wayne was the first to be heard. lmost ,etao ichmrd eta etao aetaettttaa II After calling his attention to the printed list of names of congressman in the spe- cial report. Chairman Mccall asked MT.
 Wynne what knowledge he had on his re- port.
 Tn reply MT. wynne said:
 'The first knowledge the committee on Ipostoffices and post roads had of the ex- tistence of such a list was in . statement made by Mir. Waters before the commit tee In explanation of appropriations for lseparating service.
 "swhen this service was reached in the hearing, the chairman or some member of the committee asked MT. Waters how many of these allowances had been dis continued.
 He said there had been about so,. My recollection Is that another question ask ed was if there was any list of these dis Icoptinued allowances, and he answered that there was."
 This Mfr. Wynne said vas on January Il. Mir. Wynne said that the next time the list came to his attention was on January 2b. when the postmaster general showed him a letter from Chairman lOverstreet. These letters were all the information communicated by the fourth assistant postmaster general with refer ence to the allowances for clerk hire and leases which had been made by nlem- bers of Congress.
 The postmaster general instructed Mr. lWynne to procure the list
 MT. Waters was sent for by Mir. Wynne. He produced the list and MT. IWynne said he noticed 1t contained the names of senators, members of congress and others.
 T called this to the attention of the postmaster general" said MT. Wynne, fright to couple the names of these gem tlemen with Beavers and Machen, he
 agreed with me.
 "The names were eliminated and the
 list sent to Mfr Overstreet without , them."
 The Postmaster General informed Mir.
 Wynne that this was not satisfactory and , MT. Overstreet asked for detailed infor- , nation. Acting under orders from thc Postmaster General the preparation of the printed list was begun. As to making
 the record complete by copyinge ach let
 ter in every case in full would make d
 large document. MT. Wynne suggested to the Postmaster General an abbreviated , statement. This was assented to and
 when a number of the cases had been , prepared they were submitted to the Postmaster-General and by him to Mir. Overstreet. This was exactly what was . wanted, he was told. The work was com ' pleted February 4 and transmitted to , MT. Overstreet the next day. This list contained the names of mem. : bers and was the list published in, the re- bort. Mir. Wynne stated that he had noth.
 ing to do with that part of the repor, , concerning leases; that when the request
 for the information was received. the let . ter was diveded. that part of 1t refer S ring to clerk hire was given to them and :. that part referring to leases to the Fourtf ~ Assistant He had nothing to do with z this part of the report. Mir Bartlett asked if this list was orig.
 inally- prepared at the instance of the
 Postoffice Committee. h Mir. Wynne answered that the list wal = not so prepared; 1t was nexistence. Ht added that Mir. Waters might answer c | that.
 MT. Waters was then questioned. He 1! o the successor of Mir. Beavers as chief oi n the salary and allowance division. Ht f was asked by Mir. Bartlett about the his P tory of the list. 2 Hi
 MT. Waters said that on the first o
 November. 1S03 the chief postoffice in o spector, Mir Cochran, sent for him ant told him that on account of statements that would be made in the Bristow reporI | he wanted to know how much work II 7 would be to get up a list from the files 'oi . all matters relating to the reductions fol separating allowances. He asked to have , the statement show whether the allow . | AA " ran was told that this would entail 6
 large amount of work.
 Mir Cochran asked if 1t was safe to say {. | there were not hundred such cases. The ' answer was that about seven hundred re- ' auctions had been made.
 MT. Cochran said if MT. Waters did moi ' want to volunteer the information he
 would have the fourth assistant write a letter asking for the information. Mir
 Waters requested the letter. His recol- " lection was that the letter was later re- ceived. although he put his clerks at work = to prepare the list at once. The letter . l however is not oh file in his papers and he concluded it was never received. The list was prepared up to November 19, 1903 MT. Richardson of Alabama, question: l. ed Waters to know if the impression made . on his mind by MT. Cochran was that one hundred cases were wanted, where l members of Congress were mentioned | That was the impression, although MT Waters said Mr. Cochran was a fair mar
 and he did not get the impression that | he wanted at least a hundred cases. ! This list included 700 cases.
 Later on he said the list did not beal
 a date, there was an addition made tC q 1t. on the request of the chief inspector
 which run it up to $50 cases. Still an l other addition was made and the chic = inspector wanted to know if he was no about through.
 MT. Waters replied to him that the rec . ord was constantly accumulating. There i 1 was only one omission in the records al f Prestonburg, Ky, where the files wer' , in the hands of an inspector He believed o this list was substantially complete ant Mir. Waters said he was responsible fol
 its correctness Ofices, however, nigh l be readjusted at any time. s At the request of MT. Bartlett the orig o inal list was produced and retained b! , the committee.
 MT. Bartlett went over the ground
 again with Mir. Waters to get his impres
 sion of the reason Inspector Cochran
 wanted the list in the first instance, anC
 asked:
 They wanted the list of names of con , gressmen and wanted you to state if | n was safe to say there were hundred
 such cases?"
 That is my recollection"
 Did he give you any reason?" v "I inferred from the conversation tha : a statement had been made or he wa! g called upon to make a statement abou r the number of such cases and he wanted