The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1904-01-07
Mr.. Lodge, of Massacl1usc ttsIl
Fights tho Resolution With 1
Somt Bitterness.
SENATOR G0RMAN \. 'iss5
TAKES PART IN DEBATEf /
Said He Could Not Understands
Persistent Refusal sof the Re-
publicans to Give the Mi
nority Official 5Inforl1na- 8
tioi, cerrrlilt1rg3 The ...5..,
y. Departments. .33

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3 WASHINGTON Jan. 6.-4alleged irregs3.
,larities in the Postoff1ce Depar rtmene
constituted the only theme in; tho seli45s
ate to-day. The unestIon came 4, y III on !:
nImoton first made by Mr. Lodge, n and Il
afterwards BY Mr.. y Penrosc. to refer tl,d Il
8Carmncl resolution looking 10 lf sehass5
storal investiga tlon OFT he depar tnent to-
the COMMITTEES on 5I'o 'ostoflccs and Post
Roads, The Democratic senators resisted
4the motion and contended that tho count
try would not be satisfied with IN ,ll-4 (
vestiEation of q department. ynade bSs the u
department itself. The debate continued n
for almost two and L d 4 hale hours. and u
!. was extremely spirited u from start q
finish. # M 3ss.s5 & tst
I'll Nlr Carlnacl resisted q Nj l.od gcist \
notion declaring tliat IL adepartn
x irregularities were to he Y inYestlg ted 81
T;only by the departments themselves, itis
/. would not be long llit ii 4 they would, be-
sd stencil iii thef nostrlsTof the spaople..''&a a
The only safeguard. no said, as iii con FL
sressional ainvestig tlon.35 S!s 4s,s3s$is3
Mr.. Clay expressed surprise that there's
should be opposition to tho resol ton.
45nnd called attention To- Tic declarations VI
by he fourth assistant Postmaster
K General Bristow. and Messrs Bonapartef Il
aud Conrad that tho investlEat ton should III
bcacarried further He declared that tho
& 8Isrlstow report 81 demonstrates + he absO-S
lutte s,llltsOfS thc|late first assistant POST
er-Genera Mr.. Heath. He (Bris-
tow, says himself. that this leading high
official was guilty and the proof Is
overwhelming. II this Is true. Mr.. Heath
should have been indicted.
Should be Indicted.
Il will do Mr.. Bristow the credit Ia
+ say that his report shows that tho frauds
OF the Postonce Department. originated
In Mr.. Hcath's Office. II SO. he must
have had cognizance of them. Then why
should the subordnates In that office
be Indicted and the principal be allowed
Eto escape" Il. Ell "A .l sS5 s55ss s
Mr.. Clay quoted extracts from the Brls. H
tow report to substantinte his argll.s3
ment. referring especially to the pure h
chase Of cash registers. in which con.st
nectlon Mr.. Bristow sqid that the ele- 4.
s1nent or fraud could not be eliminated n
IT. he said, ''thls report speaks TIM II
truth Perry Heath originated a q the II
frauds in his Office @ X I'll. s \, y 53s
"It,' he continued, tho report Is mt II
E correct, the fact should be known and "A
Mr., Heath vindicate II tho charges ara II
well founded, Mr., Heath should be / ln-
dcted and punished. rs
AS for. himself no did not want to do 1
any Injustice to Mr.. Heath or others
8and for this reason 1e desired the Inv
Svestigation. ssl "
Reference also was made to the negois {
tlations with y, s, Richardson, COM
cerning tho Montague Indicator In which, 4
FL Mr., Clay said there were many suspi- II
FcIous features roInting to Mr.. Heath.
Mi. Clay declared his conviction from
n thorough reading OF the Bristow report
that Alr, Srlstow had been satisfied be-8l
yond doubt that tho guittest party Of sallsIi
was tho retired first assistant Postmas-sl I
ter-General, vet he has never been ilt-s'
dicted or arrested.
Surprised at Objection.
"ln tho interest of fair play. In the N
interest Of justice. in the interest Of good
government and clean administratlon.i
he said, there should be an inquiry and \
/ am surprised that my friend the Sens
atop from Massachusetts (Mr, Lodge).
should object" f3 &
Mr. Clay also declared That tho Pres
dent has reflected seriously upon Mr.,
Heath, and had desired the trementf
of Mr, Heath from the secretaryshlp OF 81
tnC ltepllDHCull NtttlpIlil tEOllllllL
Mr.. Clay was carefu to say that lie "
intended no reflection upon Mr., Wynne,
the present First Assistant Postmaster
General, On the contrary, he took patnsS
TO speak in high terms of Mr., Wynne,
saying that he had given aterla assist
tunce 10 the department inquiry,
Mr. Carmack made a general plea for q III
senatorial inquiry, ana the reason given by
lin, was tho newspaper report to the eff
feet that tho Postmaster-General had
not been In sympathy with the PoStoffice \,
Department inquiry when undertaken
;nd that he had pronounced the Tulloch
charges To be 'hot air.
Tho statement aroused Alr,f Spo0uer,ss *
who said that the charge did great in-s NJ
Justice to the Postmaster. General. ssl
farus the Brlstow Inquiry was concerned
Mr., Payne had been In thorough SYM
pathy with 1t. md had placed the rsir
tire machinery Of the department. at thatF
command of the official who had mada llis
this most remorseless inquiry. 5& III
Z Mr. Curmack repeated the report that 5ts
.AIr. Payne had referred to- the Tplloehsi
charges as shot air." and NJ, Spooier 8&
replied that Mn. Payne had remained tat: a
Ills desk in this- city day after day, all
last summer while the Inquiry was IN II
progress notwithstanding he was ~ very "a "a
poor health. 'deyoting every energy I'M siifss ifs
seeing that Y ttA tru, ii Should bA brpn xAS