The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1904-01-14
.CARMACK ON
Panama MATTER.
Colonel Black IS not punished. VIII Know
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Colonel Black Is not punished, Will know
MOB Has AS MUCH RIGHT.
y Mr.. Carn1ack declared that MOB has
as much right to hang Its victim as mas
the President to secure what no wants py
disregard o, the law. 3,
aa president Roosevelt" he said, loses
the power Of reasoning ana ms mora ~
sense. when he becomes involved IN &C
1ion. . and exclaimed: Into what difficult
ties may we not be led by this head-!one
man, He did not agree that the Presloch.
would have hesitated III n Colombia 4 had
,,cen 4 stronger ton. On the contrary
the President would have welcomed sucn
an opportunity. He makes history as no
would order nlelodrama, making GER
to in that the star performer Is always ~
the center Of the stage"
He went on to sa, that the President
course In this matter was not merely
IN act, but a policy, and indicative OF
this character. It was not meant LOT
Colombia alone, but was the beginning
az system OF intermeddling with inc
affairs of the countries OF Central ana
south America, and such policy must
inevitably involve us in war; not only
with the South American nations then-
selves. but with European nations.
In conclusion, Mr.. Carmack said that
while he was for tho canal, he could NOT
vote for the treaty. because ne could
not endorse the laWless aus OF HHieiL :.
Is the fruit.
a CoLLOQUY.
When Mr.. Carmack took his seat MT.
Aldrich asked what practical system Mr..
Carmack had to offer.
..Defeat tia treaty" responded Mr
Carmack.
Then what?
Guild the Nicaragua canal.
"Ahl'' responded Mr.. Ailrich, "that Is
the milk In the cocoanut
5 Mr.. spooner replied to Mr. Carmack,
saving that he had felt regret at hearing
tie criticisms OF the President, who had
registered an oath IN heaven 10 olscnu'se
His duties. Mr.. Carmack had made a
sinister and unsupported statement when
lie said that this country had begun =
systematic encroachment on the rights
OF the South American republics. NO
man had stood more consistently Tor
these republics than had President Roose-
velt, he declared. No President in history
had stood more staunchly for tho Mon
roe doctrine.
Mr.. Spooner also gave attention 70 the
charges Of disobedionce of law by tho
President. 1.-THE onsy enemies he has In
the United States are the result of his
AS the author Of the Spooner act. the
speaker said he wished to express the
opinion that the law had not been y1o-
lated by what the President had done.
and he entered upon an analysis OF the
law In support OF this proposition,
Tu.LAIAN IN THE, GAME,
After reviewing the events relating to
the canal negotiations, Mr. Spooner
asked whether any senator would under
the circumstances have turned his back
on Panama as long as there was BILL
pending In the Colombian Congress. and
he put the question especially to MI.
Tillman, who was on his feet. The latter
said i,a would have entered into negotia.
tons with Nicaragua, and would have
reported back to Congress for further
instructions, He would then have said
to Colombia; "You are NANCY lot; get
off the face Of the earth well take the
country and build canal"
Tho remark caused an outburst vi
laughter, both on the floor OF the Sen.
ate and In the galleries. After minutes
pause Mr., Spooner said that while he
could not accept the senator's language
he congratulated MN on coming to the
Presidents position,
Mr. Tlllman called attention to Mr.
Spooner's hesitation. and the latter re,
piled It was because he was thinking
how thankful we should be that we
have not President who would use any
such language as the senator from
South Carolina had used Replying
Vto the man and not to the senator
Mr.. Tillman asked Mr., spooner whether
he would not prefer President who
would say in plain terms sect out OF the
war rather than to have mix-up IN thu
bastard BIRTH OF the Republic Of Fan
ana
sPOONER'S WARMING.
Continuing Mr., Spooner warned The
Democrats that platform Which I'm,
putes dlshonor to the administration ant
to tho brave. true man IN the White