The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1904-05-14
MAY SPLIT THE
ASSOCIATION UP
Lake Carriers President Issues
Despondent Statement
on the Tie.up.

CLEVELAND, Ohio, May 13.-The
following statement signed by w. T.
Livingstone, president of the Lake
Carriers association, was given out to-
night just before Mr.. Livingstone's de-
parture for Detroit:
The executive committee of the
Lake Carriers association adjourned
today and the out-of- town members
went home. We have met six labor
organizations and have completed sat-
isfactory contracts with five. The sixth
one of these unions, the Masters and
Pilots association, is the only one that
has not been willing to recognize the
existing business conditions, but has
insisted upon a material advance in
wages over last year, with more strin-
gent conditions
Mr.. Livingstone tells how the adj
visory council of the Masters and
Pilots advised the various lodges to ac-
cept the associations wage PROPOSE
ton. The association was confident
that the proposition would be accept
ed. The statement continues:
Vetoed by Capt. Howell.
1.-THE manager of the largest lake
fleet announced his appointments of
masters and called them for confer
ence in Cleveland this morning. in the
belief that the whole matter had prac-
tically been adjusted To his intense
surprise, he was notified by Capt. Paul
Howell, district captain and lake man
ager OF the Masters and Pilots associa-
ton, that he Capt. HowelD had coun-
fernandez the invitation of the man
ager to his captains and notified the
manager that in consequence none of
his captains would appear at the pro-
posed conference.
The manager asked Howell just
what was the position Of the Masters
and Pilots association, now that the
referendum vote had rejected the COM
promise proposition of the Lake Car
riers. Howell replied that all negotia-
tons that had been had between the
two associations were declared off and
that they would not sail any boat ex-
cept upon the stringent conditions and
the schedule which they originally pre-
sented, with full seasons pay to mas
tiers at an advance of almost IA per
cent to masters on large vessels and a
much larger increase on smaller; also
that the mates wages would be so in
creased as to give them a full seasons
pay, regardless of when they report
for duty.
Hundred Thousand Kept Idle.
1.-The Lake Carriers can only lament
condition which, of an average crew
of twenty, three men, by virtue of
their government licenses are tying up
the entire business of the lakes, and
this including the men intrusted as the
personal representatives of the own
ers, vested by law with high and re-
sponsible powers, action which is stop
ping wages to the amount of many
thousands of dollars each day to the
vessel crews and said to deprive not
less than 100000 men of employment
The Lake Carriers executive commit
tee feels that it sought in good faith
to avoid this condition by every con-
sistent and reasonable endeavor''
Treat With Separate Companies.
Capt. Howell stated today that upon
request of the managers of passenger
lines running out of Chicago, he will
meet in conference in the latter city
probably on Tuesday, when an effort
will be made to reach an agreement
whereby the boats can be operated.
According to Capt. Howell, negotia-
tions have been opened with his or
ganization by managers of several
steamship lines, looking to the starting
out of their vessels. This will involve
the severing of connections with the
Lake Carriers association on the part
of the vessel companies, should such
an arrangement be made