The Hawaiian gazette., 1904-05-10
Many Remedies Suggested But None Of the
Solutions Offered Proves Entirely Satisfactory.
Talk Of Putting on Local Steamer.
NO SEATTLE LINE.

years and had never been successful.
Money had been lost on all the business
with Seattle.
G.. B. Mcclellan asked If there wasn't
enough shipping business in Honolulu
to support large local steamer.
Mr.. Gilman said that a steamer like
the China, running from here to San
Francisco and to Los Angeles and back,
would make money. He thought that
a steamer from Los Angeles for certain
months of the year would bring lots of
tourists in.
Mr.. Smith asked If the Promotion
Committee hadn't taken up the question
of putting on the China. Mr.. Gilman
replied that the committee had but not
with favorable results.
Mr.. Brasch said that the steamship
lines had formerly made rate of five
dollar per ton for freight. but had
voluntarily reduced 1t to three and
half. He believed that If the shippers
got together and offered to pay dollar
and half per ton more the companies
might consent to cut rates. Some in
ducement he thought should be offered
the present companies.
Mr. Gilman said there would be no
difficulty in arranging to get cleaners
! if a guarantee to fill them with freight
| and passengers was given.
AMEND SHIPPING LAWS.
j. G. Rothwell said there would be
more passengers than freight offered.
He had been trying hard to get his
! family away for two or three months
! and hadn't succeeded. The steamship
companies didn't intend to give low
! rates as long as they We're always filed
| up at the present fares. He suggested
| an appeal to Congress for a modification
| of the shipping laws so that passengers
! might go from here on foreign steam
ers, thus relieving the congested traffic.
| Some times 1T was absolutely necessary
to get away, and yet people from here
could not go on these foreign lines with
out paying a 5000 penalty. He called
| attention also to the fact that Il steam
er supported by the community for
twenty years paid no attention to the
wants of the public, but left at nine
O'Clock in the morning. The Alameda
left on Wednesday, right after inter-
island steamer day, and it was impos-
sible to write letters for the steamer
the next morning. He believed the
company should be asked to conform
to the wishes of the people.
Mr. Humburg, of Hackfeld & Co, also
thought the proper thing was to try and
secure modification of the shipping
laws, as the st. Louis Fair overcrowd-
ed the local boats.
Mr. Waldron said that even with a
modification of the shipping laws Ho-
nolulu would be no better Off as the
Toyo Kisen Kaisha and o. & o. We're
controlled by the Pacific Mail, and the
Oceanic was also in the same pocket.
Mr.. Smith suggested that Congress
did not meet until December and no
action would be possible until, that
time.
f. w. Macfarlane was of the opinion
that the proposed modification of the
shipping laws would remedy only one
evil. More steamers would be available
for people wanting to leave, but the
main issue was still to be dealt with,
that of a rate to attract tourists. To
have the Merchants Association take
over a steamer and run 1t was out of
the question. With the down freights
the merchants could WELD some intlu-
ence but the up freights, sugar, We're in
, the hands of Davies & Co, Haclifeld &
, Co. and other agents; out of the con-
troll of the merchants
COULD NOT OFFER SUGAR.
Mr. Macfarlane said also that the Ha-
waiian line and the Planters line OF
vessels must also be considered. The
=, agents of these vessels We're Welch &
j, Co, Williams. Dimond & Co. and Others
and while the sugar men may desire
E to help the tourist work. they also had
to provide freight for their own ships
The merchants We're shipping TO Sar
q Francisco only n little wool and coffee
and they would have to depend on theil
= down freights. The sugar men had al
=, ready provided for their freights anC
, the proposition to be submitted must b'
!, apart from any action of the sugar
:. agents. so it resolves itself down Il
. the passenger service" said Mr. Mac
farlane. Can the merchants OF Ha
a wall support n steamer on its passen
4, ger traffic up and down and on th'
down freight? The leaving of teamer
l., at nine o'clock In the morning is un
desirable and the directors might TAX
up this matter also, | believe the hes
, thing is for the directors 10 Conslde
a this entire question and bring about
=, reorganization of the passenger tram
with the understanding that We cnnno
depend on the sugar shipments"
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