The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1904-10-18
DR.. AMES DENIES
His Testimony the Feature Of Yester-
day Afternoons Session.

day Afternoons Session. .
DR.. A. A. Ames took the stand in his
own behalf yesterday afternoon. His
voice was not as strong as of yore, but
he appeared in good health. AS usual
he responded to most questions with. an
extended address. This was particular
ly true on cross-examination when
Judge Kerr and the court insisted that
he should answer the questions directly.
MED everything in toto For every
suspicious incident or document he had
a plausible explanation.
In opening, br. AmeS said that he was
81 years old and had lived in Mime
apois since 1852. Coming down to the
allegations Of the indictment Mr..
1fDid this woman Bessie Lee pay you
any money at any time to obtain pro-
lection or Immunity from arrest by the
- She did not. J" E19te,1 - a*a
= Did Irwin a. Gardner in the year
1901 or at any other time pay over to
you any money that he had collected
from lewd women and gamblersa''
"He did not"
These two questions were repeated in
various forms until the whole field Of
possible inquiry had been covered.
/
Gardner and Norbeck in the News Let
ter office and there instruct Norbeck
to obey the orders of Gardners"
! emo, sir: / never gave such in
structions. - 49, ..
"Give the facts relating to this meet
ing,' instructed Mr.. Cary.
TT met Norbeck and Gardner an the
steps of the Tribune building and Nor
5 Ssea ssaed G %s if hs should take
! perior officers,' I replied, probably
somewhat more sternly than should
have done.'
| Guilty of This, Anyway.
"What was Mr.. Gardner's rank at
that time9"
every rank. He had no rank an.
pun. He said that he lad accepted
Gardner as a medical student on &C
count of personal friendship for his
father. Gardner proved an apt pupil
and was trusted implicitly.
! "Did you authorize any meetings be.
tween Gardner and others at your medi'
cal office7" - 49, =; :.
81: did not" v .s.f+.z
|ins ssPja you know Of any of these ''' meet get:
I 7sDr. Clark complained to me that
there were some noisy gatherings in
my office at night during my absence
That IS all I know of any meetings"
Gardner was studying medicine ant
assisting at the. office, He was pai5
1926 per week, but only $15 week
when attending medical college. ..
messenger boy while in your employq'
"He did. He carried messages t,
and fro between my office and the cit,
hall and various city boards:
The witness denied that Tom Brow
had ever seen Gardner pay him money
Everything that Norbeck, Gardner
was denied.
HDid you have conversation wit
, traffic by lewd women9"
81 told him that complaints wer
numerous with regard to lewd wome
and told him that he must take step
Il "You heard Gardner say that yo
gave him $50 to give to the Harri
woman to. pay her fine, is that truea"
; aIt is false.''
s.Did you know Of $50 ever bein
! paid to the Harris womana'
Tanner Letter Explained.
ua hs etsp 10 }oseRh " f Tanner nyr
: brought up. Ames said he had bee
b assessed $1,000 by the campaign con
mittee, but had refused to pay it an
a had rejected a proposition from Il
campaign managers to get the none
from the houses Of i'll fame. Late
!. Tanner presented himself as collectt
Of the campaign fund and asked to |
q made acquainted with Joe Cohen. II
: letter Of introduction was written an
the warning to Cohen to be caref
i meant that Cohen should be careful
4 dealing with Tanner.
= The witness admitted to having hs
u E gaf fahys1t the : graft raft M. Bouts
Complained that the fines assesses
}. against the women were SO high TIL
y they could not pay their bills: ]
Ames agreed with them that $500
/. month was too high and personal
u changed the rule 50 that they paid on
le on alternate months.
On cross-examination the witne
tripped at almost the first step. ]
n testified that Krumweide first informs
B, him Of the arrest Of Ida Harris, viii
It is entirely different from his versi