New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-03-19
EISBERG BILL TO PEOPLE
FyTEND SUBWAF LIMIT.
Po,,;d Transit Board 1slrs That Its
BIZ BE Passed.

-be Prnfl Transit CJfntliFel',.' a. 80 -.
yesterday. called on the legislature 70 - -.
lii sent 10 Albany some time ato - -. I'm
,ggested that the Elsoerg Rapid -Iai-7-. %
De passed with referendum -
Il 10 the voters next fan 80 .,,
President orr. in remarks which feoel''-
closest attention OF his associates t7--
,7..,-o --, fellow citizens in Manhattan aii-
M rl-..,..- md no less iu Broohgir ~ N.r
fhe mcmLees az this board, 70 $3.50 t-.-- 20 MANY
o.-oe "a me rapid transit leglsll-oh - Co., ~
s-l,ere IL absolutely ct stake me j. 80
furfnrr progress az rapid u"i-a.t ~ - Il
5rogefrrr with my associates OF ills -
80 --,,r f-.,er llrlyva I'd of nine years o- al-Nio
labor 10 Ire cause the first I'VE o. !" -, s,,,e
or seemed 20 be, years OF ceIe-- " ". -, 40 Il
our wo-k-or az least we nave men ,-sl1fTle
-.ffL no purpose except to give me ~ 80
masses OF The people 1f the cry VIC 49, -
srsrsst and while doing SO, 10 preserve - 30 80
80, tfe45f ir5 INC best and safest way. the iu-l
M Iue az ITS own franchise We lLa'l --...--s.s
- c-.- e-1rreae-tndeed. much larger success
rhsu FOR wears the most expert onseI Nel9 -
leyed that we would or could nave ~ a. -, NJ
less I realize that we have accom- ll-sile- ~ a
mart probably small part OF me MoIh lo oe
49, III mn crlrion this is no time 10 stop or
suspend the work. but % mus loI wy i, n -,
at ieust be stopped u iIe l.sls-llLe - - ~
PASS one of me two .l.s the BOARD las az
THIS bin IS very short. having but a single single
clause II simply extends the LnN OF lallo
,--,.s+ e,-o,l5ifilra 10 such amount as the Board
~ Estimate and ApporUoiflent h--'--i - -, -
The Din involves and was drawn 20 lHN"tE -. --o
me y.l-afty-er lis theory on rapid transit agrees
that this money limit must he elllA-6t IN
one therefore comedies the rloIiltlH o. ,i.5
at least no one openly o.Jel,7. - S,ste
therefore 10 Be dealt With oi us OWL - i.-l7
ruarftc But &c Is sought 10 ineis S u - g e.
make II DEPEND upon the new anu ~ - -
49, ,--.-ssrs "a what IS called the ElsbeTE
i'm Now Sd is plain that 10 maze .''s So A.,
mower 10 the city TO eAlell H .DlI --.-.saIs
---rz t-areff ctgtud uuCu these rev l-'l'7. go
lai'.A ,ol r. +ra- are may Wei mean me
o---r.Iare defeat for the present OF - - 10
lialls sit--. - IN +po FIelerr bin But il Us
,-srfon Na desired. 7 believe IL l-sl'...7 -
feel bound 20 give II c1retoi ana a.. ~. ,rrIs5on 10
.J5o-ofior and frankly to state rs ,'-.. -,
- 1erssI5fll1e and the people. " heteH11 81.
,,insfon uuan its interesting pro- ,--- --,-,~+
,---rpoz affrrr hv the board TLl.le s-l--' ~,
Ieaeae', t..', , ~, one can fau 70 see thal
- 49, s--Glya not only great ln.ie .--t.--.-
Zf mower and patronage OF l-# --'.t-.-,ra fror1
III -. "a rr-r-rfairaI construction neIe1'-,.-o
adopted. and very great u-l.o -----ro-a eeri-
plan Of municipal aa. Et-Ie~ ire re-a-
ousIy considered by the cry .-----i-.,.s1 r7r-
80 .o-reer,-qrfye measure ~ l.--i.-la- 49,.
..t-,1r+fan under which We are Ao." D, .--,--,-
VS. ~ t-5I ..,.r~ese no opinion whether lAe
new derarrure ought 10 be submitted Z. 80
vote but iu view n i-le ~ Z. -.-s .gr--al..
that a considerable time must o1 49, ro-
mature consideration II me prov --t--.--+
IL. 80 80 eC- weeks remain. however, or me
present session. and cannot bur l-.l 49, .,..
ever little they Intend IT, llo7t wy 9-.-- 20 the
our simple proposal for "a larger l--.-' - 81
raufd frrrefr fund shan BE c0ns.a t.e- t-.s
connection with The extensive changes - ~
transit and municipal policy ffgIas.A p -
1-sherg bill are. Ga effect coHll -.-.--.T- ~ -.
Gefear OF continuing rapid transit AliA le-,L-t
800 - .csY---ir.I-e The 10000 Olo limit was
prescribed by she legislature I'D Ac.'t Wen l
Tarfd transit problem WAS in an tApeIl -itl..'t
stare when most expert lallroad anu i-
77aop.a did not believe that any plan coL-1 sC
carried out The limit was prescr-2ea loi tl.e
old civ OF NeN-N0rk; Brooklyn ana c-tti , o..
lying borou-hs were nor c9is-lgltl- -l.- -
shue fixed nine years ago has heen healts -
baustad bv the MauhaJtan-BrouN ana bIooh-
1t-u- Manhattan roads; and every one c9lioee--7
mar me municipal debt incurred Tor inns pul-
- e75 ,5U-rfuc those years. as understand
more than made UP 10y accunl ulallolls o. ne
..frl-frv f..ud-has been eQualle0 several uiles
SIM ~ --e svr-aaee of values produced ny the
rror--es q the rapid transit work. WIN iHe
,--or-rb IN the population ana bL. ness Oh o.1
more apparent to-day than Il was ilie seai7
Tr my opinion the city owes SIS. very utmost
~ .or5 faith and OF liberal good ta-th. 70 iA'se
,.,,o 40 r--flsirg the rapid transit roads now
under construction. They took up our proposal
when 81 had found few friends. But with all
,r, respect for them. 4 am clear that The city
,,5rft not so far as municipal rapid transit IS
concerned 10 be confined, as il VIII be Tor the
present az least. d the bin we have propossl
shall not pass, 10 the facilities PROVIDED hy the
single system including the Manhattan subway
and Brooklyn extension now under colslrIc-
tiOn.
Following AIr. Orr's remarks. Controller Grout
moved that the commission disapprove the
clause iu the Elsberg bin limiting the lease
term 20 twenty years; that the commission de-
clare itseIf in favor Of the provision Tor pipe
galleries and opposed TO the repeal Of the sec
ton permitting the granting Of franchises IN
perpetuity.
Commissioner Cladin objected 10 any pro-
vision FOR municipal operation OF a subway sys-
TEN.
The Controller said that the city should have
power 10 deal with the operation OF connecting
railroads. and cited the difficulty that the city
IS having ia trying 10 make the Brooklyn Rapid
Transit Company pay proper price for any
subway or elevated structure connecting the
two bridges. ar. Grout said that the Brooklyn
Rapid Transit Company would not pay inter
est on sum above S3.5O000) or 100000 for
a city huilt connection. while as a matter Of
justice Il should pay much more than that.
The commission adopted a resolution. which
VIII be taken 10 Albany next Wednesday by
Messrs Boardman and Rives saying that the
commission is OF the opinion THAI its bin giving
the Board OF Estimate and Apportlonmeut dis
cretionary power with reference 10 Ammonia
lions Cor subways Is wise and should be PASSED
Schmidt 4 Gallatin. the projectors of a rnov-
ing platform connection between the bridges and
down 10 the financial district. yesterday sent
the Rapid Transit Commission n letter csuf-,,
attention TO their recent proposition 10 b,lud n
moving platform across the bridges After re
freshlng the cOmmisslon's minds with -efa-,,,,o