The Birmingham age-herald., 1904-01-16

be the purpose of the institution to en- courage saving and frugality, and they feel that the institution has every prom ise of suco ess
 become Q member of the sanitary commits sion at one time If he had cared to. Mr. Burkhalter told us that he did not intend to pay MT. Drennen, and that he would not sue him because he had made a contract with MT. Merritt to furnish brick and that he had never brought suit against Mir. Merritt
 I would like 10 say in Justice to w M Drennen and Julian Kendrick that no mention was ever made of their names MT. Burkhalter told us however. that w. M. Drennen and Felix Drennen were both present at the time the commission awarded the contracts, and that they did some work there"
 Cross examination by Attorney Miller: Quoted BurkhaIter.
 Think that l have quoted MT. Burk- halter in substance. He told MT Full enwider and myself that Mir Drennen said the money was to be used either to buy or influence the members of the sanitary commission. MT. Burkhalter lives on Twenty-third street between Ave-
 
 house about Il o'clock in the morning. Think we went on the car part of the way and walked the balance
 Tn the main it was political matter I was not deputized to get the news for the Herald. intended to use the in- formation that I would secure from MT. Burkhalter in the mayoralty campaign between ". M. Drennen and MT Ward. l was supporting the latter. I discussed ar xarff arnI 1t was campaign talk. MT. Fulenwider and I later called on Mr. Motion at his home and told him of the matter. Think l also told Tom o. Smith of the Birming- ham Trust and Savings company about 1t. Conferred with Mir. Barrett about 1t.
 T did not ask MT. Burkhalter to verify the statements which he had made to us and did not ask for an affidavit. Did not suggest that he furnish any proof of 1t all. Don't remember exactly, but I think MT. BurkhaHer told us that he did not care to be mixed up in it. Don't recollect whether or not told MT. Burkhalter that I would not use his name in connection with 1t. Did not tell him that the matter would be treated in a confidential way. MT. Burkhalter expressed surprise that the matter had ever been told. did not tell Mr Motion, do not think that secured my information from Mir. Burkhalter. A1ot ' ittdii thdt ic utiudndto tnt ddlhoi.
 Told Motion.
 MT Motion told us that he had heard the matter discussed some time prior. We went to MT. Notions house about ' o'clock in the evening. We told him that we heard he had been bought. Don't re- member having told MT. Motion where we got our information. Don't remember having said to him that our interview was a confidential one. My best recollection is that I did not mention the name of MT. Burkhalter to MT. Motion. MT Fulen- wider was there during the entire conver- sation. which lasted probably fifteen min utes. MT. BurkAalter did not state that 1t was a political rumor. We did not tell Mir. Burkhalter that we did not believe the statement that MT. Drennen had such an agreement with the contractors, and only wanted to use 1t for political pur- poses. Subsequently I met Mir. Burkhal- ter and told him there was nothing in the matter from political standpoint. l did not know that MT. Motion knew anything about the matter when I went to his house. and I thought he would have 1t in- vestigated when she heard of 1t. I was impressed that MT Motion did not attach any importance to It; he thought 1t was too absurd He said that he was as inno- cent as Caesars wife. and that he did not think the people of Birmingham be- leved that any member of the Jefferson County Sanitary commission could be in fluenced.
 q did not say anything in the paper about the agreement at that time. Noth- ing was said until the suit or claim was filed by Mir. Drennen. It would not have been safe to publish it at the time first heard of it. I am the business manager of the Age Herald and MT. Barrett is the editor.
 Interest in the Case.
 q am not interested in the case any more than any other citizen of Birming- ham Is in the outcome. l, like others, want to see the matter pushed, however to a conclusion. My interest in the case is personal I tried to keep from being witness in the case. and asked the counsel to excuse me which request was not granted. My interest in the case is not directed against the brother of the claimant I certainly have no interest in the outcome of the hearing as to any ef- feet it might have on the character of Mel Drennen I was defeated by the brother of the claimant for the office of mayor have voted for him once since then-when there was no candidate op- posed to him"
 Cross examinations: Nothing was the matter with Mir. Burkhalter mentally as far as I know, at the time saw him at his house. There was no evidence l.