The Montgomery advertiser., 1904-03-09

you just took back and which you said was mistaken
 rne witness hesitated and Senator Hoar smarked: Well, If you can't answer that don't blame you"
 Al.er much effort statement was ootained from the witness that ne thought Senator Shoot was acquainted witn the general reputation and accepted Ieport that Mir. Lyman was hving ih poissamy with his plural wives.
 The Iowa Church.
 Shalrman Burrows asked MT. Lyman m regard to the recognized church Of lat ter day saints of Lamont Iowa. of which son or Joseph Smith, the prophet, is the neao, and Mir. Lyman gave his ideas or the differences between the two orgdniza- tions. He was asked If the re-organizcd church did not denounce polygamy and answered:
 They denounce 1t so hard that 1t almost provokes us to defend it.
 senator Dubois asked If the re-organiz- ca church teaches absolute obedience to US leaders and was informed by MT, Lyman that he understood the church was not very strenuous in that regard.
 NOW in regard to the consent given senator Smoot to become a candidate for Sehator-supose President Smith had re- fused to give this consent and Shoot had insisted on becoming a candidate, what would have happened to him?" ask ed Senator Dubois.
 MT, Lyman said Senator Smoot would nave been considered insubordinate and prooapiy would have been disciplined, taken to task, reproved or corrected. He was asked what would have happened in the event President Smith had given hIs consent to another apostle to become a candidate for the Senate.
 T do not know. It would have made lots of confusion We will scrap about that question when 1t comes to us."
 MT Worthington, having objected to questions concerning the belief of the re- organized church as irrelevant, Senator Hoer said that the Senate investigation was more likc a grand jury's inquiry than trial and that they were not con- fined Ito the narrow issues of this ques- tion. If We had been I would not have put many of the questions which I have in this case''
 Worthington's Position.
 MT. Worthington sad he had no ob- tection to the testimony so long as 1t is understood that much irrelevant matter will not be taken seriously by the com mittee.
 Mir. Tayler sad that 1t had been shown that one of the religions was com posed of peaceable, law-abiding citizens, while the other Is a menace to society and good government and that in the lat ter Senator Shoot is so woven into tile organization that we hold he can not Dc extricated without cutting himself of entirely"
 Mir. Worthington inquired of MT. Ly- man whether Senator Shoot could not resign his apostleship if he wanted to do anything which the church forbids. a.id still remain a Mormon in good stand ing. The witness answered affirmatively.
 MT. Lyman told the story of an ef- fort of the prophet Joseph Smith to get rid of one of his high counsellors who had been chosen because of revelation and the refusal of the people to submit to tho change. This was for the pdr- pose of showing that the will of the peo- pie is stronger than the wish or con- mand of the president of the church.
 Do you mean to say" asked Senator Hoar "that revelation from the Lord which has been rejected by the people would count for nothing?"
 Tt would count for nothing for those who rejected it."
 Would it be Binding upon the instru- ment of the Lord who received the rev eladons I mean if the revelations should be received by you and the people re- fused to accept 1t. would 1t be binding upon you to follow the revelation or tc follow the wishes of tke people?''
 Would Follow the People. /
 I've should follow the wish of the peo- ole.''
 Well. how about your"
 ''I should be bound by what the people direct '''
 Then" said Senator Hoar. 'the voice of the people Is of more authority thar the mandate of the Lord?'
 "The law of the Lord IS whatever Is done by common consent"
 Then the Lord submits to the people whatever He desires to have done. and If the people like it they give their cen gent? That is your belief, IS it?"
 "Pcc pie have their rights anl they must be respected" answered the wit ness. "The Lord cannot make the peo- pie do right or accept His laws. Man is left to follow his own agency in regard to religion. business and politics."
 ''Then." persisted Senator Hoar, where the Lord has chosen certain persons and apostles and the people do not care ;u select. what heppens?'
 'The man always steps aside when the people reject"
 "Thev have sort of veto power ovcr the Lord. then?" remarked Senator Hoar.
 Both the prosecution and defence an nounced they had concluded with Apos tie Lyman and he was discharged.
 Tho Committee adjourned until toner row.