The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1904-02-27

lowers surround these kind-hearted
members of the Senate and favor an
appropriation of this kind TO Liliuokala-
nj. Perhaps they who dethroned her
feel that they wronged her and would
be glad to have some other purse than
theirs open to reparation for their
wrong. But the Senators do not urge
that.
We took Hawaii, Mr.. President. 1
voted against it. / think IT would have
been better for Hawaii had she not
been acquired by the United States, and
| think our purposes would have been
subserved quite as we'll by foruty1ng
and improving Pearl Harbor, which we
owned. But that has gone by.
What was our agreement with 1a-
wall? Did she come to us without cost
Did we take her to govern her and pro-
tect her and safeguard her people tor
all time without burden? There IS an
inherent burden in such an ownership
But we did more than that. we
assumed, in the joint resolution by which
we acquired Hawaii, the public indebted
ness OF Hawaii of every description,
with a simple proviso that It shonlc not
exceed 100000. | have no doubt It
reached that maximum Has the Sen
ator information about that
Mr.. Mitchell. 1t was more
Mr.. Spooner. | remember alter that
we passed some laws which addec large
w to the expenditures. The United
States therefore did not simply EN-
brace the Republic OF Hawali and hold
it in its embrace. 1t bought the terri
tory, took the debt, and IS exPending
large sums of money, l take 1t, as IS
true as to other territory. in administer
ing from the national standpoint tnelr
affairs.
Now, Mr.. President, there is not a
shadow OF foundation for this claim SO
far as the Crown lands are concerned
nothing that would appeal to the court
nothing that can appeal to the con-
science of trustee who IS called upon
to pay out other peoples money. :,
Mr.. Mitchell. The Senate thought
differently once, because it passed this
precise bill in the last Congress.
Mr.. Spooner / opposed IT.
Mr.. Mitchell. You are consistent
Mr. Spooner. | know l am consistent
II does not follow because the Senate
oasses bills that they ought to be passed
Mr.. Mitchell. And it does not follow
they ought not TO pass.
Mr.. Spooner. No. Notwithstanding
NV opposition TO this bill, IT passed, anc
perhaps it will pass now, but 1t Will no.
pass with my vote.
Mr. Mitchell l wish to state as one
member of the committee, that, IN my
Judgment. if there is not some kind o.
! claim on the part Of this woman grow
;nq out of the Crown lands-that IS
ont of the proceeds Of the Crown land:
then do not think she has any clam
at all. and she ought not to have cent
! That is nv opinion and has been iron
the first in regard to this matter. Blu
I do think. and / have always though
since | have Investigated it, that there
* claim here, not legal claim, no
an equitable one that could be enforced
in a court. but one which as between
this great nation and the former sover
eicu OF Hawaii ought to have consider
alton.
Mr.. Spooner Mr.. President, there i
not.
Mr.. Mitchell. The Senator understand
what I mean He did from the first
out would not admit il.
sfr. Spooner. only understand wha
the Senator means by what the Senate
says.
Mr.. Mitchell. 1 have said the sam
thing all the time.
Nr. Spooner. | understand the Ser
ator to say that there IS no clam her
in his judgment, either legal or equita
zf;..4.ft The Senator did nc