The Washington times., 1904-12-18
TRE wAsHIXGToN rIMES SUNDAY DEcEMRER 18 lgOt

for Mckinley. Witness emphaticaIy
declared ne had ever said such a ching
but that il would not be an uncommon
thing TO have heard such a rumor in
circulation.
Before becoming Republican. witness
had belonged TO the Peoples PARTY. af-
fIiated with the Democrats in prin-
ciple, the MormOns were not one thing
or another witness sand. What they
called themselves 1 do not know"
Witness listened 10 an exposition by
Senator Dubois of the history OF the
Idaho test oath law, and many arrests
under it's provisions, until a ease was
brought, on habeas corpus TO the United
States Supreme Court. In the course of
the Senators review. witness exclaimed.
wen. Unat WAS matter YOU regret
ted yourself, i believe. Senator. As a
good, cOnsIderute, Just man. You regret
ted tEat tie Mormon people We're op-
pressed.
Witness had been a delegate to the
State convention occasionally, but not
the last tima and a regent o. the State
university for two years.
John Henry Smiths Views.
Apostle John Henry Smith. Of Salt
Lake City. was next called. We've
heard a great deal of you as a public
speaker commented Attorney TayIer.
as witness took the chair, so please
speak out loud enough for an TO hear"
Were mild-mannered men," returned
the apostle.
we can see that" concluded Mr.. Tay-
Ter
Witness is a son Of John J. Smith who
was a first cousin OF the first Joseph
Smith. 50 that President JosaDh N
Smith, the present head OF the church Is
"a second cousin OF witness. lie was
born Ifty-siX years ago at Council
Bluffs iowa, in the immigration from
Illinois to salt Lake City. and became
an apostle IN 1880. He ranks next to
Apostle Lyman, is a pOlygamist with
two wives and has had several children
born since the manifesto, bat in the
State OF Colorado.
Il have fifteen living children" he
said. " / have buried four. / have had
seven by the plural wife. but one OF
whom died. The youngest of these IS
seven years old. 1 should think here
were four Of them born since 1880
Had Signed Manifesto.
Witness. could not recall when he had
married tae plural wife, but their eldest
daughter. now married. is twertv-sfx
years old. He later fixed the date as
lssa He had been one OF those Who
signed the manifesto declaring against
poiygamy and subscribed 10 that view
OF the matter, but did not practice il
Il must take the consequences of my
COuntrymen II they wish To punish me
Tor H. re said. Il took this plural wiIe
IN the view that the law would not be-
upheld ana the courts decided il as ]
thought.
For years no people were so close
together as Joseph +. Smith and my
self, but recent appointments and du-
ties have kept US apart good deal in
TfCrur nave been u "a re
Of the United States and Mexico /
know Apostle Cannon. but did not know
about ms marriage TO Lillian Hamlin.
II heard limitations about III hut only
rumOrs. / think 4 attended his funeral
In Salt Lake City. / heard T. H. Ian
nan speak OF the marriage. about five
years ago, but did not have any active
Interest IN investigating the report"
Asked whether he did not think the
practice Of pGlygamy ought TO be sup
pressed. witness said:
- take IL for granted that every man
Of my faith IS fully 5mcnable 10 the law
and that the courts OF Utah are fn
operation. / have never held myself
responsible fer the acts Of nv asso-
ciates, either moral or immoral o
Witness answered in the negative
when asked whether he did not think OF
the bad effect IL would have on the
church and try 10 Offset H.
Asked IL he had not been active in
politics. witness replied.
MY ancestors were Federalists and
Wings and I inherit every element OF
that stock on both sides.
His Visit to Idaho.
Witness told of his visit To Idaho on
The invitation OF the Republican State
chairman. Describing his activity there
ne said:
There was promise which seemed 20
me 20 furnish means for INSCRIPTIONS
persons 20 Cypress my people. / talked
10 William II. BOrah. Governor Morri-
son. and others. / asked them TO con-
slider the matter and If they should care
70 do anything ] would be glad Of IT,
The question with US was only the
wisdom of such action Mr.. Borah.
think, was for il. while the governor
was much more timid about IL. lie may
have been opposed TO H. but he thought
IL was a little early 10 speak about II. ="
Witness Is director of the Idaho
Sugar factories, of which President
Smith Is the head. Apostle Heber J.
Granite is a director also.
At this point having been IN session
I'VE and One-haif hours, exclusive Of
Tie recess for lunch. adjournment was
taken until Monday al 10 o'clock