The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1904-02-05
The DEBATE
POLITICAL
Senate Chamber Arena for Par
2 tisan Discussion Of Govern
inent2 Expenditure.
ST. LOUIS E: ( z 3 LOAN
$500 $500
This Was Basis of Discussion
and Body Adjourned Without
Reaching Any Conclusion.
ST. LOUIS EXPOSITION LOAN
by Associated press.)

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WASHINGTON, Feb. 1.-The Senate
chamber again was the arena Of an In
terest1ng political debate to-day with the
provision In the urgent deficiency appro-
prlation bill for a loan OF s4,6OO,oOo for
the St. Louis Exposition. the basis for
the discussion.
The controversy was precipltated by
Mr.. Lodge, who quoted many official ng-l
ures to demonstrate that Republican poll
clcs had not been failure In the United
States. lie also charged Mr. German
with hostility To the navy. Mr.. Foraker
also spoke dcvoting himself largely to a
comparison OF conditions under the 1Iar-
rison administrations and those under the
administration OF Mr.. Cleveland. to the
advantage OF the former, On the Demo-
cratic side. Messrs. German and Bailey
were the orators
s Tho exposition amendment had not
been disposed OF when the Senate adj
journed.
Commenting on the present condition
OF the countrys finances, Mr. German
said thatit was due to the immense ex-
penditures made in preparation for war
SoS,UUUtUVUE& Id5lt Sedlff 4Ol lilc navy anu
$4,000 600 for the arnyr--in time OF pro-
found peace. He denied, as MIR Lodge
had charged, . that he had been an enemy
OF the supbuildlng OF the navy. On the
contrary, he would have navy ample
to guard American interests everywhere.
But he had had no idea of n navy to com
pete with that Of Great Britain or Ger
many, because our conditions did not re-
qulre such 9. navy. He did not want a
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II want economy In it." he said. and
he called attention to the effectual aid
given to Venezuela during tie sadminis-
tration OF Mr. Cleveland. eve did that
he said .at the cost Of $lo,vvy.000 a year.
and nov we. pay ss2,0oO.ooo for a navy
with which to threaten Colombia He
would reduce the expenditures in the
navy, and he would scale the army down
from o0, 900 men, as now authorized, to
(! sc, 900.
HE did not hesitate.''I he said. ito con-.
fess that he would be- willing to take
money from the excessive expenditures
for the army and navy and give it to
the ST. Louis fair the success OF which
was pledged by the United States =:
mir. Lodge s roposition,,' said Mr.
German, was that 3 not only the fair
SHOULD be neglected, that the harbors
should I'LL up and needed public build
s1nSS Dc denied, spu .IIallp lepd1 dltono ~
war must go on indenitefly. Given the
great fleets desired. the navy was apt to
find a, way to make trouble
|sE5InSsthis connection eMr eGorma ri COM
mended the removal Of our fleet from the
scene OF troube5in the Orient &by order
OF the President, as the brave command
err OF ther1eeta would like to take part in
any trouble. 1t was rumored in. high
naval circles that: the United States was
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on its shoulders, with a. taunt to Germany
tolknock It off, That country was. he
went on, giving us trouble in competing
with us for trade but he. contended that
| we had a sufficient navy to protect our
| flag and our commerce everywhere and
we did not need more. Our high taxation
| had 4 caused discrimination to- be made
against us and he would have this re-
moved.
NO GENERAL CHANGE.
Mr.. German admitted that q general
change in the tariff was not desirable
because OF its effect on the business af-
| sfairs8:of the country, and he was sure
| that If he were member Of the ma
lsiority, he would not want to go into
| that question. But he thought some
| OF the schedules could be remodeled to
advantage. s5i3assa S.
Mr.. Foraker attributed the hard times
Oh 1873 TO ~ tne seIeCllOIl ILL !|ou!oSihtiS
President and Congress- and the pros
perity, of the last few years to Repub-
| lican supremacy. III 5s III s
| Mr.. Patterson asked Mr.. Foraker how
he accounted for the cut in the wages
Of textile and steel workers and the
| miners OF bituminous coal.
i Mr.. Foraker replied that the reduc.-
ton OF the wages of textile workers
was due to the advance in the price Of
cotton. AS for the other reductions. 1t
was no unusual thing to made changes
| In wages. Nj 5ta 55l .55. l5
Mr.. Bailey replied to Mr.. Foraker, say
| ihg, as a matter Of fact. no one party
was responsible for all that was good
| In the tlmes-that was the joint product
OF God and man. 1t, was not true, he
said, that the Democratic party was the
Marty Of hard times. mo more calam-
lily cry. for u.s. no said.
Mr,f Baiey said that Mr. Foraker's ex-
lp,anttion OF the reduction Of the pay
Of tie textile workers did not explain
| the Alling OFF in the pay Of steel work
The senate adjourned until to-mort
row. Az
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