New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-03-06
HALE FEARS JAPAN.
IN AMBITIOUS POWER.
Senator Says Her Victory Over
Russia Would Menace Us.

washington. March 5-There was an inter
Icing exchange Of views I'm the Senate to-day
between Senators Nelson and Hale. The Mime
sofa Senator. in me course OF brief colloquy
with Senator Patterson concerning features OF
,he Naval Appropriation BILL expressed the opin-
son that there is such commonalty Of inter
est on the part of the United States. Great Brit
ain and Japan as TO protect China against dis
nemberment
To this statement Ar. Hale. in charge OF the
bill objected sharply. saying that the position
~ the United States in the present Oriental
war IS that OF neutrality and that he could not
allow to go unchallenged any statement in the
Senate Indicating a national interest in either
Russia or Japan.
Senator Hale also said that IL Japan was sue
cessful in her present war. the United States
would find more danger 20 commercial inter
ests from that ambitious power than any other
Senator Clay also took issue with the conten-
lions OF Senators Lodge and Depew as TO the
necessity for strong lighting sea force
10 keep the United States out OF war.
he did not criticse the additions SC far
mace 20 the navy. nor the carrying out OF
the plans OF the pending bin, but he could not
agree that there were 10 be no relaxations. No
country, he said. was challenging us or question
ing our position on the Monroe Doctrine our
rights were secure. nc contended. IL we properly
preserved the rights OF other nations. lie did
not believe that there was any danger of war
with Germany. but nothing SO likely to
make trouble with other powers immense
navy composed OF many ambitious men. He
said that ex-Secretary Root now held the same
views concerning the retention OF the Philip
pines as were maintained by the Democrats.
SHOULD WATCH EXPENSES.
Senator Clay also said that there should be
a Congressional committee 10 investigate ex-
penditures in the departments. saying that no
business man would let business involving mill
ions drift along. as Congress was doing He
criticised the policy that led to the expenditure
OF S207.0o0ood annually for war and refused
20 erect public buildings in Washington that
would save rents Of 10000 a year.
Senator Martin tDem). a member OF the
Committee on Naval Affairs. defended the bin
and called attention 20 the fact that no one
had found fault with the increase OF the navy
as proposed by the bin. We must have
strong navy" he said. and he spoke OF the
recent expansion of the United States as fur
nishing the reason FOR this necessity.
Senator Depew replied 10 Senator Clay. He
said that the Georgia Senator could not separate
the ex-secretary from the Republican party on
the Philippine question as would be found when
Mr. Roots fun views We're known The Ameri-
can people are not CUTTERS" he said. but they
hold. He did not believe that any one living
would relations with the Fflipinos d.
Eninished-
Senator Depew also cOntended that there Is
ample supervision Of governmental Expenditures
fy the appropriations committees OF the two
&ouses OF Congress. But IL further inquiry had
been necessary. Il had been made by the Presi-
Dent yho had Instituted rigid inquest when the
Fesulf might have been injurious 20 his party
s1esepoke OF the policy or expansion and Mr.
Patterson inquired whether he meant that fur
nzrFSsTsndlzement through conquest or pur-
kraase % foreign territory would be the pro-
Gimme OF this government. Senator DepeW an
6zs-edI
Y Eto not think we will ever see the time when
fueE1u need more territory, but I do think we
III Eet merchant marine some time. and
fnean fhat we viii want q navy big enough 70
protect 81 mean that hope Secretary Hays
LproSrenrne for an open door in China will con-
ftnue 20 be a policy OF this government and that
we should have navy big enough to enforce 1t.
A GREAT NAVY NEEDED
Senator Depew predicted that in the end Mr.
Chamberlain would succeed in the programme
lstd out by him in Great Britain. Other Euro
pean nations would be found taking steps to
protect themselves against us. and navy would
be needed He said that whichever side
must be consulted, and this country would in
sist on having her interests considered before
China could be divided up. great navy would
be necessary at such time. Replying TO SEN
ator Patterson. he said he did not think it
world be necessary TO go to war TO maintain
our interests in the Orient.
why are the other powers now accepting a
very unpopular note from us?" he asked.
Senator Patterson called attention to the re-
port that the note TO Russia and Japan had
been melted by Germany.
Senator Nelson replied to Mr. Patterson's
questions concerning our naval influence in the
East saying that with this country, Great Brit
ain and Japan all united in support OF an open
door fn china there was no danger Of the dis
Inembermeut Of China. All. too. were hostile
20 the absorption OF Manchuria he did not be-
lieve there was any formal alliance. only mutual
ity OF interest.
Mr. Hale protested that this debate was eK-
trsneous He said:
don't want the statement 81 the Senator from
Minnesota 10 go unchallenged. do not agree
that there is to-day any such common interest,"
between the United States. Great Britain ana
Japan on the one side. against Russia. France
and other powers as his sta tement implies. our
sttiiude is one Of neutrality. and so declared by
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