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Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
NAGES AMP FnpFNSES

Uhs United States department %
commerce and labor has compiled
s1me interesting statistics on wages
and the cost % living. Secretary Cor
telyou. basing his estimate on the cen.
aaa reports. fixes the total number NJ
hoae Who work for wages with their
Hands Ia this country AZ 1880 900
some OF these are skilled and some
anskilled on the total 1000. 600 are
women, and 1900. 600 Of the rs 800 900
are members OF labor unions.
In response go a question regarding
wages the secretary said. "Tho bu.
reau OF labor has been making an 10.
Vostlgation OF that subject. and its o.
Innate Is that wages are now on the
average about 10 per cent higher than
hoy wore la 1894, 1895 and 1896. and
10 90 ~ per cent above the wages a
1890, when they were higher than ~
any previous time in our history
lie also said that the bureau of ga
Dor has Investigated the subject of the
eoat OF living. and found that the ay.
erago cost OF living OF 1902 over tina,
- 1890. tho country over. had lncroas
"a 80 DOT cent The Investigation was
basel on the Increase ln tho retail
Erioaa OF food on an estimated amount
uaod BY each family And the aveF
age cost OF food per family. estimated
by averaging 1867 families ia dlnercn.
parts OF the United 5tatos. was s344Gl
each La the north Atlantic state.
The average ga round numbers was
$500 per family. and in the south Az
lantic states S2i2 per family ln "a,
western states Il was ta22. and Iu the
south central states O was $40 Thoss
agures are based ontroly on tho fetal
prices OF food and are believed 10 be
fairly representative VI lts actual cusI
10 the working man
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

According Co statistics OF reliable
aricln. there are twonly.nino states
and territories .n this country, as we'll
a. the federal government that have
eight hour laws
10 Connecticut Illinois Indiana. New
York. Pennsylvania and Missouri
slght hours is a days work unlo
otherwise specified ln the contract
Nevada provides for an eight hour
work'ng day only upon irrigation
works and for laborern upon rcsor
vuirs. ln Wisconsin this number oi
hours a day De- prescribed On manufac.
turing aud mechanical establishments
subject however 20 change hy con
tract The mining states az a rule
make the law amply only 90 workIuc
In mines. and in California. Colorado
Missouri. the district of Columbia
Hawaii. Idaho. Kansas. Baltimore %
Maryland Minnesota. Montana Sc.
Vada. Ohio. Pennsylvania, Porto Rico
Utah. Washington. West Virginia
wyoming and the United States In ad.
dillon % whatever other provisions
'ech has. all enforce an eight hour
law 90 public and government works.
The c0nstliutlonalIty OF tha kind
OF Jaw has been tested ln many 10.
stances 10 the United States supreme
court and the decision has invariably
been favorable when the law has
boon 500 framed ~ not 10 interfere
with the FREQ right OF contract pro
ylded Tor tho federal constitution %
appears thoro can Boz no legal obiac
ton 20 a law which declares that eight
hours shall be the length of a week
nE dag Il clause Is added 20 secure
to employees and employers the priv
lege OF mailing tho day longer on
shorter ~ they no desire. aud good
and fnlthhr work Is executed in eight
I huurF
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
NE NV SIlIIs

Ai0twitlsandng the opposition
aanifa8tod in bosh New Mexico and
Arizona to tho admission OF those two
territories AZ one state. it rs probable
that the house committee on Terrific.
aas will report a bill Tor their admis.
slua % that way says the Denver Re-.
Babucan
~ o. believed that IN mo- other way
win 10 be- possible 10 overcome the
opposition iu the senate whore the
bm admitting New MoKlco and AriEo.
ne a. separate states was defeated
iasi Wlntor Whether a bin admitting
thom a. a single state would pass con.
Eroas 10 doubtful. but d D. practically
sertain that no effort Tor separate
adm Mission will have any chance OF sue.
eaaa in this or probably, amy other
euagfeaa Ina the near future
o. the event that tho proposed BIN
haoUnoB q law. Il wlll remain a CUES.
uoa Whethor the inhabltana Of the
territories named viii vote in favor OF
the adoption OF constitution In &C.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

Friends of President Roosevelt and
thoso who are looked upon AS the
prealdonts political advisers discuss.
90 with a show of Impotence the 20.
port from New York cry that there
lad been an understanding between
the president and Senator Fairbanks
~ which Fairbanks was 10 be the
vico.hrCaldcntlal candidate. and that
Governor Murphy OF New Jersey was
10 head the republican national com
mlttoo one OF thc most prominent
and perhaps the most aatuip OF the
politicians in the administration or.
Gle said
"Quoto anyone ln a denial of tho
aiory7 Certainly not lta too absurd
90 De donIed ! suppose an OF these
thlngs. as vol as score of other
combinations have been talked over
among groups of ambitious mon or
men VINO are ambitious tor their
friends Bot Co say that the prosi.
dent 90 anyone authorized 90 act Tor
the president has taken any such step
IN a reflection upon the president and
tpon his advisers u is nonsonsicaI
Tor anyone to discuss the president
iavoring an individual for tho second
place on the ticket az this time"
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
ION Tnl NIIlMi

Tho indian appropriation bil which
has passed the house OF representa-
tivos Includes the Items % build a
girls dormitory 81 the United statos
Indian Industrial school at santa BE
io cost $4,000. as well as the item
10 100000 90 improve the Indian
school aud plant az this CITY the
chances now are that these two Items
will stick in the bili through the son
ate. and this viii prove quite a tri.
umph for this section of the country.
Besides these the BIN contains an
appropriation Tor alurFesum OF money
for DAY schools az the different puo.
bios. and irrigation projects n the
territory, and Cor he support OF the
NayajDa and otnor indians.
Delegate Rodoy helped yery mater
tally In getting these latter items
made quite large. aud has tho assur.
anco OF tho indian ONCE that New
Mexico will not again bo cheated out
of itu share of taess funds, az @ has
been f0g many years past
The Zuni irrigation project viii be
finished 10 possible within two years
ami ,lis will Involve, b0iore u D. done
probably An outlay ~ 100000.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

rr surp tht enabling act They
might fttfoiusc 90 hold a constitu
I.nsi c.r .a ian and thus reject the
uvttsfl0n .U enter me union az a sin.
state
Whr'hrr fhov would prefer 10 con.
Iuue uIfpf q territorial form OF gov.
eminent f0r an indefinite time 20 ac-
aurint ae rrlo tate the right OF
local self government and part'cipa.
zion In The 8fmrs of the union will be
q matter Cor ttom 10 determine In
fhc'r own why in case a single state
sill 10 parsed
single 'atohood would have at least
1ne ADVANTAGE In tnlt 10 would provide
Or strong and powerful state. ca.
pahle of mliuta ming asa efficient gov.
eminent and also of oxcrilng a potent
influence Boz national affairs just as
the tronF states OF the eatt are moro
nowcrful than those OF small area an q
population, so Arizona and New Mex
ico united would be- Tar more efficient
poth a. homo and ln national affairs
than ailhrr would standing alone.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
RusqAy BtsI AND CORRUPTION

80 American knows Russia sa
thoroughly as George herman Hn
predicts revolution CO. that country ir
case hor armies are beaten in IN,
orient or the interests that hrough,
about the war and tho status OF thing
.lkoy 90 oylst in the seat OF war p,
says
'The grand dukes and generals did
not believe Japan would hght. at least
noe until spring Japan caught them
unprepared Russia should have KEEP,
her fleet together in the far east
The Japanese now are destroying it in
detail From what know oi Rus
sian malndministration and pecuia
ton. ! fancy that ManChuria today 81
q chaos. that the soldiers are starry
Ing. the officers are useless. the am
munition hopeless. and organization
nowhere"
Russia governed by the rotten
bureaucracy Is deeply 90 debt and Do,
most perplexing problem now con
fronting the government Is the quos
lion OF money whorewith 10 carry or
the operations OF war The borrowin'
capacity OF the government De- about
exhausted. and the iovy OF q popular
tax on a peope already drained Do
the limit Is not 10 be thought OF al
the present timo Add 20 this IN,
fact that Russia Is rotten TO tbg cor,
with administrative corruption. and
the gravity % the situation ia which
hat country Is placed Is apparent Z,
the most casual observer Japan. on
the other hand. 20 comparatively fro,
from all those omlarrassments Tia,
credit OF the mikado is good. hia sub
iocts whether rich or poor are ready
and anxious TO contribute Far beyond
their means to the war fund sAd a4
minlairatyo corruption Is a thing al
most unknown loo the island empire
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

Mrs. Jose cortez poftnGa Hersoif
Against Tomas Alarld a. Santa Fe.
a shooting ARRAY took place Friday
evening. shortly after o O'Clock in
Santa Pc at the house OF Joe Cor
toz on CcrIIIJs road which viii rrol
ably result .n the death Of Tomas Ala
rIl Mrs C0rtCz had been at Vospors
40 the cathedral with her three little
daughters ana was on hDr way home
when she wac acC0stei By Tomas
Alar.d. who was evidently under the
Influence of strong drink BE laid his
hands upon Mrs Couoz who escaped
him By running into che store of Anna.
40 Gutierrez ON Ualisteo street win
her daughters. Alarld following her n.
90 the store hut wac put out boy Gu.
tlouez
Outside three mCr took hold of Ala.
I ria and Fed him away some distance
Mrs Corez leaving hor daughters in
the store started for home. expecting
20 send her husband for the girls. sho
was on CorrilIos road when she heard
AlarId Ia pursuit and had almost
I reached her home when Alarid threw
rock but missed her Mrs Cortoz
went into the house and AZ A,arld a..
tempted 90 enter the house she warn.
cd him saying Don't you dare como
I inside the do0ri" An eye witness
says that Alarid after being warne .
/ not Co enter 'ho Cortoz home. never.
theloss ala 90 and followed Mrs Cor.
\ ter into the third room OF the house IN
which Mrs Cortoz was and IN which
she found the pistol. which was after.
/ wards used by her 10 defense against
l AlarId's actions Il also seems that
l A.arid hal rrudg0 against the wo.
man and had cudeayorcd 20 quarrel
with her before over property righiB
Three shots were fired by Mrs Cortez
/ in rapid succession, two OF them taxi.
/ ing effect. one entered the right
groin and the other on the left OF the
abdomen Despite his terrible lniu
rloa Alarld managed 10 walk 10 hla
house. which Is near the CorteE home
DR. N Dlaz was sent for and ad
\ vlscd his removal 90 ST. Vlncouts hos
pltal whore an operation was perform
cd and both bullets we're extracted
Tho attending physician Is unable "a
toll whether Alarid viii recover.
When Mr. Coriez returned from
work he found his wife crying and
learned from her the story Of the o.
| fair.
A warrant was issued by Justice 0I
the Peace Jose N Garcia for the ar
rest OF Mrs Cortoz on the charge OF as
sault with intent 10 XIII, the iniOrma
ton being furnished by District Attor
noy u @. Abbott Constable Jose Do
mlnguoz served the warrant and Mrs
Coriez Was released upon furnishing d
bond Tor $1,000. j. 4. L.ao0me and
Nicanor Baca going on the bond
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

rhe readers OF this paper Wu ne
pleased 30 learn nat there rs 90 least
one dreaded disease that science has
been able 90 cure 90 all lts stages ana
thai is Catarrh Halls Catarrh cure
la tle only positive cure now SHOWN
40 the medical fraternity Catauh
being constitutional disease, re.
qnirca constitutional treatment.
Halls Catarrh cure Is taken inter.
nally, acting directly upon the blood
and mucous surfaces vi the system,
thereby destroying the foundation OF
the disease. ana swing the patient
strength by building up the constltu.
Ion and assisting nature In doug "a
work. me prOp1otOra have 10 much
uith boz 100 curative powers that thoy
onor one Hundred Dollars Tor any
case that u tails 90 cure send Tor
il8t OF Testimonials.
Address b.. > CHENEY s. CO., no
ledO. "
sold b. druggists. zoe.
HALLS Family pills are cue best
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

shattered blue rocks over across the
race track just beyono the base bail
diamond. but not 30 far away that the
cracN of the gun could not be- beard.
SOMEBODY screamed on entering
catch me- and tho attention OF the
crowd was attracted % two ladies'
falling from a camel Everybody ad.
mIrod the now southern Carnival com.
many wagons. and their beauty viii
be- the source of much comment from
now until one april fair
Athletic park is becoming n very
n0rH'ar rlaco on SUNDAY.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

fhs Alamogordo News says Tho El
Paso a Northeastern shops win not be
removed from Alamogorto 10 El Paso
uor no where else The statements
made by no Puso daily newspapers %
the effect chat the shops would be re-
moved 20 that city are without any
semblance OF truth Tho ni Paso a
Northeastern system are not antag.
oniatic 90 AlamOgOrdo. neither 10 Ala
mogordo antagOniatic 20 the El faao
a Northeastern. Tho interest OF one
10 Ne interest OF both, and Alamogor'
a. aad hOr railroad are hand In hand
with each others interests nrat last
and always These are facts and
come direct from the highest onclais
OF the El Phso 4 Northeastern.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

Tile boys are tiins aiong years.
Says the Empuria. Kansas Gazet "a.
Etoy time here ia parade or q
do.nsa the ranks are thinner and The
absent faces come 20 ones mind au
~ looks no th' ranks and hover
shout the little band like ghosts 1hcy
Ar letting ro OF business one by
un and Swing place % 'noir sons
n you talk Eve minutes 20 any OF the
old toys be- Will toil YOU in confidence
that hts comrades are getting crank
iur aud harder 20 get along with ov'
cry year Ihis BE- probably true. but
even % % i8 true. this nation should
put up with the old boys There
was a time when thoy hal 90 put zap
with a good deal Tor this nation
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
SOCORRO REPUBLICANS
THEY MET At socoRRo LAST
SATURDAY AND ELEcTEo DEL.
EoATEs TO TERRITORIAL CON.
VENTioN.

The republicans ca socorr0 county
met az the court house Ia socorro last
Saturday. and e.eotod the following
delegates 10 the territorial convention
az Las Vegas.
u o. Bursum, .. b. Torres, A. @.
Aboytia, Elhso Baca, Herbert Fitch.
A. b. naca. n. n. Howard, w. 70. Mar.
Tin, Esteyan Baca, David Baca
Resolutions were introduced endors.
ing n o. Buraum as one OF the dele
gates from New Mexico 20 the nation.
al convention az Chicago on June 10.
The national. territorial and county
administrations we're also endorsed.
and a resolution introduced and car
ried fayorlng single statehood against
iolnture
The county committee will be reor.
gaulzed. tho following resolution on
the subject being Introduced and
adopted:
30 it further resolved, That here.
after the county republican central
committee shall be- composed OF oloy.
en- members, who shall elect a chair
man from one OF their number AZ such
time and place as thoy may deem OK
pedIont. which chairman shall DO 90
leclod by majority vote Of such com
mitteo.
BE Il further resolved, That GuOi
county central committee act as "a,
executive committee OF the ropuhll
can party Of socorro county, and the
members thereof shall DO compose,
OF tho following named persons. 10
wit,
Eduardo Jaramflo. Alelo 0uruis. J
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

iu "a letter 90 The citizen George O..
Jcnncr advertising agent Tor the Cor.
onado cent City at Coronado Beach.
says that the Coronado tent CITY
band which visited Albuquerque last
spring win return again thls spring
aud win play q concert lu thls city
May 10
Tho visit OF this fine organization OF
musicians 10 the city last year 10 well
remembered Tho concert given al
Robins1us park was one or the nnest
ever given 90 the city aud was duly
appreciated Their coming in May
Is anticipated with pleasure
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
EDDY COUNTY REPUBLICANS

rhc republican county convention
of Eldy county met az the city nail
at Carlsbad on the 18th OF Marcn. Tho
convention was well attended. Tho
following permanent organization was
erected = A. Finlay president
John Bolton, secretary The following
delegates were elocteu 20 represent
the count" a. the territorial oonyon.
ton al las Vegas L. O Fullen. z. n.
Henson.
Resolutions were introduced and
adopted favoring Ile statehood. sp-
proving OF the national and territorial
administrations. aud the course pur-
sued in congress by Delegate u s..
Nodey.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
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LETTER LIST .
90 90 @@~@@@@
Remaining IN the post ofGcr a A.
huqucrque. n. H. March 3. 1900.
Persons calling for or svnding Tor
these letters please state where they
had been receiving mail. $40 meutloa
date OF advertising.
Free delivery OF iottors 10 the reai
dence Of addroaaco mag BE- secured b
observing The following rules.
Direct letters plainly 90 street num.
Der.
Give writer's name. aud request an.
swer 90 be directed accordlnrly.
Advertised matter Be- previously held
1ne week awaiting delivery.
Advertised matter BE- held two weeks
before it goes 10 the dead loitsr onlce
ai WathirEtln u G.
ladies iat
Baker, Mrs. FrodHonnossy, MARIE
Builott Mrs, a. n kcbor. Cornoiia b.
Bolandor Mrs. LotiLovato. MRS. zar.
tia earita 81
urk. Mrs.. i.ocher. Miss F'ran.
Chavcs. Dolores coa
Christensen, Mra Noua, Mrs. HIDE
Couat. pacias. Mrn. I,us
Cnnord. Mrs. urac Montoya wa a.
DAVIS, Mrs, Aman- Parker. hra. b. a..
da sanchez, Mre A.
Davenport. Stella brona.
Fitzpatrick, Mrs. Astcphous MissU ota
W. shaw, Mrs. Joan
Graves Mrs. b. ETuriota. Miss i.u
Giulau. Maggie STA.
Gree. Mabel welsh. Gertrude.
MEMS List
Aohoy. Hugh H. Leonard. Geo.
baca. Raiiitos Lowell John n
Boswell. A. %. LaCkoy n. d.
Brceetto. Fred LOWS. oliver
bryant. a. a. t.oyato. Pedro
Burnett, James s.Labarr. Byran
borthoL =. a. Middleton. MARI j.
Burgess, Il. B Morrison bros.
broaoy. Fred hontoya. TOlraf0r
CHICO sheep Co. Marquee, Tomas
Crawford. ID. N. McIarr. Cnas
NNAhAttNt NJ ~ Ail'At hANa
Calhoun VIII Neldisor. Fred
Dokclvor Rev Vino nonnor. ,. 2.
bonnoY H. " Potter. ~ ~
Diujic. l.0uis Peterson, Potter
Driver ;. L. Quinby, w. ~.
Fralpton. p. W. Rose. John e.
Gonzales, MauuoLsnnche OrAbieI
ito q. snaw. Howard A.
Gabaldun Benito solazar. Jose n.
Graham, Bert Soroy, D. n.
IuticrroE, D0niei Smith. Rev. X a..
ano Torres Manuel
Garcia. Manuel q Tauon. Rick
GuCrolo. Martin Winters. a. 90,
Gutierrez. Torbbis Walter. Ray.
hutchinson. JOnn Wilson, WIN
Howard. Mr.. Moodt0rd. Fred ~
Loyba. Bitonio Western Home. lr.
Liomcr, Horny rFailun CO.
&C. HOPKINS.
p0Htn tsfrf
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

ANY child can take lAttie harly
Risers with perfect safety. They are
harmless. never grippe or 8icken, ana
yet they are so certain IN results that
robust constitutions requiring drastic
means are never disappointed Tney
cannot fail 10 perform their mission
and every one who uses DoWitta
Little Early Hlsers prefer them 20 al
other pills. 1hey cure blliousneea,
Sold By all druggists.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
ROOSEVELT COUNTY REPUBLICANS
HOLD CONVENTION At PoRTALEs
AND ELECT DELEGATES TO The
TERRITORIAL CONVENTION.

The republican county convention
u Roosevelt county, was convened al
tho oeurt house at Portalos on the AZ
terAoon of March 8. 1904, pursuant "a
cap. Il WAS called 70 order by W E
Lindsey. member OF the territorial
committee.
Three precincts were represented
The following organization was effect
cd. " 70 Lindsey, president; @. o.
Leach, secretary.
The following were elected dele
yates 20 the territorial convention Al
Ia Vegas W. ~ Lindsey and C. o
Loaah
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19
SANTA re
morLGYs OPERA HOUSE TO DC
IMpRovED-orHER ITEMS.

a. S CLANCY De- seriously 100 1t BIs
hotno in fh.8 city
Miss WrglJmnu. teacher 0f the
primary grades Goo the Central school
tl and confined 90 her homo with
.hs mu8sles. Mlas Irene Duyal has
charge of her room temporarily.
Attorney - 81 Read S. now d grand.
.a,hsr Mrs }. Pablo Dcigado daugh.
,eE OF NJ Read gave birth yesterday
AZ Albuquerque, Co an oight pound
uAbF grI Mother and child doing
wou.
Tbs musIr being prepared for the
Wallace CLUBS" entertainment on
March a. viii lo OF "a high order.
some uf thg best musicians Boz town
have kindly given their services for
tho occasion and tho music. both Boa.
strumentnl and vocal. wll Dc feature
1f tho performance.
Mourys opera house COS Ga'.ste0
street has been Thoroughly reroyatol
anI m1Iom.zoI and has been again
leased ty A NJ pcuolulch who has
booked a number of good attractions
rhe huli aud Stage have been repaIut
"a aud repaporod The lobby ln front
and ticket Office are separated from
the main auditorium which will seat
i59 people. by q strong sliding door
besides the vide entrance la front
thcsa are three side doors and tire,
large windows To- the ground door 10
addition TO a stage door thus assuring
npId oxIt IN case Of nIe.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

q. torrea, Elhso Baoa. A. n Baca. n
o. nursum. W. E Martin. A. @. Aboy.
ua Pablo Truiillo. Jose Armiio 40
vigil E1tevan Baca Julian Montiza.
and A. A. sedllio AZ secretary.
BE u further resolved. That each
delegation herein, from the various
precincts OF socorro county. shall
name the precinct chairman Tor thoiF
respective proeincts.
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

1no name witch Hazel Re much
abused. %. @. Dewitt a Co, Chicago,
are the inventors OF the original ana
only genuine witch Hazel salve. A
certain cure Tor Cuta, Burns. Bruises
Eczoma. Tottu, piles, etc. Thore
are many countorfoita OF this uaive
some Of which are dangerous, whiie
they are an worthless On buying
Witch Hazel salvo see that the name
10 O. Dewitt a. Co.. Chicago. 10 on ths
box ana a cure 10 certain, Sole ~ 81
druggists,
Albuquerque weekly citizen. (Albuquerque, N.M.) 1891-19??, 1904-03-19

Among the other hno equipment
Which tho Mexican Central has been
receiving from the United states 10 a
aua hew steam Wreckor This ma.
chine ls now in the El PaBo Santa
Fe yards As soon as IL rs cleared
threugh the custom house II will be
takea 20 the lower portion OF the
lac for use there 10 ls one OF tns
larrast ever seen here.