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Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
Conditions Are Improving, But
There is Still Much to be
Desired.
LABOR TROUBLES ARE SETTLED.
This Has Had Beneficial Effect
Manufacturing News Is
Confusing.

New York, April S.-R. G. Dun q
Co.'s Weekly Review of trade tomorrow
will say:
Commercial conditions have some
what improved during the past week,
although there Is still much to be de-
sired. Dispatches from the south are
most encouraging. At the east more
sCasonable weather prevailed, yet
spring trade Is stlll below normal. The
best news OF the week was the settle
ment of many labor controversies, or,
al least, resumption OF work pending
arbitration, Manufacturing news Is
still confusing Notable improvement
in the iron and steel industry IL offset
by less favorable news regarding the
textile and footwear trade. Agrlcul-
tural work progresses rapidly under
better than average conditions. II Is
a good sign that the month opened
with prices OF commodities less Inflated,
Less activity In western hide markets
was not accompanied by weakness
on the contrary. limited offerings OF
packers gave Increased strength 10
all varieties except native steers Of
recent sailing.
Failures this week number 235 In the
United States, against 81 last year
and 20 In Canada, against 10 a year
ago.
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HUSTLING FOR STAR PROXIES
A Lively Time Ia Expected at the Meet
Ing 10 be Held Next Week.

Lively interest IL being manifested I'm
the meetings Of the shareholders Of the
Star Consolidated Mining company,
called for today and next Wednesday
At the meeting this afternoon those
opposed TO the scheme Of Manager MIL
an Packard to double the capital stock
10 secure working capital 10 build a
mill, viii formulate their plans to Dut
up a vigorous fight 10 defeat the prop
osition which Is to be brought up for
consideration &C the meeting 20 be held
next week II Is believed that enough
Of thu scattering stockholders can be
brought together TO defeat MIR. Pack
ards plans by decisive vote. Mr.
Packard viii I've opposed for reelection
as manager, but his friends claim &c
have enough stock 10 make sure Of his
retention. There has been lively lot
OF hustling going on for several days
for proxies to be used at the annual
meeting.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
BUSINESS NOTES.

The change In the weather, the cas-
ing up Of the eastern money market,
and the excellent reports made by z.
c. NJ. l.. the Utah Sugar company, the
Home Fire Insurance company, and
other institutions which have held an
nual meetings, have all contributed to
give q more buoyant tone to local
stocks, during the past week. Sugar
stocks especially have shot upward
since the meeting, and Utah common,
which sold at $500 a few weeks back,
was quoted at 1926 today with no sell
ers. The latter price was bid for a
block Of 2.o0O shares. Idaho and FREE
mont stocks are both reported as STIFF
fer, and Amalgamated common Is al
most off the market Nearly everything
in the list below Is now quoted ex dlyl-
dend
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
IMPORTANT FOR BINGHAM.
success Of the Utah copper Means Much
Tor the Camp.

Nothing SO important IN the his DRY o.
bingham has transpired as Ihe opera
tons ot the Utah Copper company
says the Bulletin demonstrating aS
they have done and are doing that the
thousands of acres Of minerul2ed por-
phly within the district not only con
talns copper of substantial commercial
value. but that the material yields 20
slnplc methods of treatment The
Titan Copper Company's Bingham en-
terpise Is az once a success OF far
reaching Importance for It sets an eN-
ample that win he followed boy other
poWerful corporations set TO be organ
lied to operate similar ground,
Any doubt as to the pracucability OF
treating the altered porphyry has been
removed By Information released by
the l'taah management that the recent
CONSIGNMENT of concentrates, about 90
I'm /. contained 20 per cent copper and
upwards Of s. IN gold per ton. These
figures are as good or better than We're
those obtained during the series OF test
runs. the result OF which cyonluatcd IN
Inc big company being formed, II Ia
now stated by President MacNcill that
before the close Of 1905 the company
win install reduction works of 1000 tons
daily capacity. The 30 tables OF the
West Mountain mill are this summer TO
be increased to 60,
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
LOCAL BANK CLEARlNGS.
For the week ending at noon
Total, .s2,426, O26 IS s2,56l,772 80

Decrease, slS6,745.72,
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WEEK ON CHANGE.
Sales Of Stocks Aggregated Only SOL
823.i0-Today's Quotations.

During the past week 54l33 shares OF
stocks sold for $3l,623,4 40 on the min
ing exchange. As the above figures in
dicate, trading has been light while
the range OF prices has been low DAILY
West beed~ 1.-THE week IN bad order
but on the announcement that the
dividend would not be cut this month
the effect was to revive the stock and
Il made some slight advances. The
stifiening was all out Of II this morning
when It dropped back TO $25 80, with
conditions pointing strongly towards a
further decline on Monday DAILY
Judge and DAILY have both been in
active this week but they seem to have
lost no ground. Scarcely any Con
Mercur was found loose In the pit, but
today a 200 share lot was taken up at
6S cents. Grand Central is making
some heavy shipments OF ore and hold
ers are not inclined TO let out any stock
at present prices. Butler-Liberal has
made notable gains since last week and
brokers bid l3 cents for II today. The
disappointment In the Tetro directors
not declaring dividend caused a
weakening in that stock and II dropped
several cents Ajax, while II has not
recorded many transfers Is quoted con-
slderably stronger
The closing quotations and sales to-
day were posted as follows,
TODAY'S QUOTATIONS.,
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THE MAST CONCENTRATION.
plant WIN be Ready for Commission
About the goth Inst

Henry NJ. Atkinson, manager Of the
Mast mine at Bingham, and wife, were
in the city yesterday Mr.. Atkinson
has been busy for some time past In
stalllng u concentration and expects to
have IL ready for commission by the
goth inst. A 35.horse power engine was
delivered 70 the mine several days ago
The Mast Is owned by the corporation
known az the New England Gold Is
Copper Mining company and Is To-
Gated above the Boston Consolidated.
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Re. Organization of COpperhead
Company Results in Formation
OF a Strong Concern.
FINE ORE BODIES DEVELOPED.
Gold IS the Predominating Metal
Oasis Gold & Copper NJ. & N. Co.
10 File Articles

The finishing touches were put onto
the deal to reorsanlse the Copperhead
property in the Drum Minirg district
today and on Monday the articles OF III
corporation Of the new company when
is to be known as the oasis Cold anu
Copper Mining and Milling company
will hle It's articles Of corporation win
the secretary Of state
The new company win have for i's
officers men who are well known N
Utah mining and bushes circles, The
president Is Mathew ). Browhug %, 1'
ogden, vice president, DR. Johh l.
White; treasurer, j. b. Toronto, SCI,
rotary, j. A. jennings VINO WIN Jeu
d. Give are directors. Excepting MI
Browning. the officers are all residents
OF this city, o.o ooo
The company is capitalized for 9sO'O 09o
shares Of the par value OF VI DV'oVy
shares being left In the treasury TOT
development purposes, ,
The Copperhead ground has been UNI
dergoing systematic Development Tor
period Of more than two years with the
result that some very attractive ORC
bodies have been blocked out, the VAL
ues running principally In gold and cop
per. a.
The work was done under the direc-
tiop of MIR, Give and, II Is said such
showlngs have been made as would
Justify going the expense OF equip"
ping the mine with reduction works
The present company, however, VIII not
make move In this direction until
further proof Of the perinanency OF the
ore bodies Ia brought out by the SINK
Ing Of the shaft to at least 300 feet deep
or and doing other work on the lower
levels TO be established Mr. Cllye fol-
lowed ore with an incline shaft for 1850
feet down and afterwards sunk per-
manent working shaft TO the 200 foot
point. re then commenced prosecuting
10 catch the vein followed on the IN.
cline and 10 open up large body OF
low grade copper ore, The latter has
not been reached, but Unexpectedly,
four splendid shoots OF ore have been
cut, measuring from few feet up to IL
feet In width.
While there Is fine showing OF cop
per in the Copperhead ground the pre-
dominating metal Is gold and Mr. GIVE
believes the Drum district will beyond
n doubt become a gold camp and an I'M
portant one
The camp Is situated about 30 miles
west from Oasis station on the Salt
Lake Route,
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OMAHA
PRODUCE.
CHICAGO.

Chicago, April 9.-July wheat opened
shade to lsqA higher at siisqSS and adj
yanced quickly TO &asSls, subsequently
selling off TO SilA The close was at non
the low point OF the day, July being down
i4c. at S5laaS6%, after touching 8k.
Cash Wheat--No. 2. red, i,Oal,03 No.
3, red, e5a1.O3. No, 2. hard, 9lR9S,
No. hard, sJq95 No !, northern 9e8
l0lj No 2, northern, SOal.oi No. 3,
Corn-No, 2, t3di3S No. 3. 45dbo.
Oats-No. 2s3gQS9lg, No. 3, 3Sla
Close; Wheat-May, SiA: July, ssisdsSR;
old, S1is, Sept, $685. old, SIS.
Corn-April. 52h, May, 594; july, 5lls.
0ats-May 3sS; july, 3ia; Sept, %.
Pork-May, 1850, July, l23jGi2.31ia
Lard-May, 65j. July 6l2is.
Ribs-May, 6.45, july 6,6Og6@ls,
Rye-May 70 cents.
Flax-Cash, northwest, ll6.
Ciover-Aprll, 100
Timothy-Aphl 800,
Barley-Cash. 32aol.
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50. SWANSEA DIVIDEND.
Directors Decide to cheek out velvet
Aggregatlng $4,000.

The directors OF the South Swansea
Mining company surprised the fire.
quenters Of Brokers' Row this morning
by announcing a dividend Of a cent a
share, or $4,000, declared at a meet
Ing held early in the forenoon, The
day Of payment was set for the 25th
inst,
The South Swansea has been work =
Ing alone in quiet way for several
months. shipping ore frequently which
has p.id a little more than the actual
expenses. Gradually the surplus in the
bank has been growing until II reached
such proportions that the directors con T.
cluded that the shareholders should
reap some OF the benefit It was a
most pleasant surprise, indeed.
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OFF FOR THE ALBION.


Theodore Hatfield, superintendent Of
the Albion mine at Alta, returned to
camp this morning prepared to COM
mence a most vigorous campaign OF de-
yelopment OF that property. For the
past two years all energy has been d.
rected In driving the long drain tunnel
which is destined TO tap Lodges which
are known to contain world of wealth
The tunnel has been finished to the
length Of 1880 feet.
The Albion is equipped with a COM
pressor plant operated by water power
During the winter months however, the
flow is insufficient to operate the ma
chinery The plant has been shut down
for several months but Will be started
M again ut once,
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09

the lake and In many places the oil and
asphaltum oozes from the ground.
Vice President W. u. Pyper, VINO
was IN the city yesterday. is much
elated over the prospects OF his COM
pany. The field has been examined
by number OF experts, who have
reported In very favorable terms.
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
NEW YORK PRODUCE.

New York April g-Buttor, quiet
Creamery, lSa8 state dairy, l5a20
Eggs Strong Western ftsts, Il; west.
ein storage selections Is cents.
Sugar-liaw, quiet. Fair refining, 5-S2
centrifugal, % test, 32l32; molasses
sugar 29-32, Refined is quiet; crushed
~, powdered. $50; graduated, 40,
Coffeo-Firm. No. Rio, Gis,
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LIVE STOCK.
CHICAGO.

Chicago, April --Cattle-Receipts 800;
market nominal, Good to prime steers.
5.25qolj, poor 70 medium 9.i5a5. W..
stockers and feeders, 2.l5Ui Is; cows, 800
pi3; heifers, 2.2Jh4i5. Gamers q Ooq
$50; bulls, 2.25u4 10; calves, 2.60dl6 Is ;
Texas fed steers, iOOai60,
Hogs-ReCe.pts today 5000, Monday,
500; market steady. Mixed and butch
ers, 4.Sa6.2; good TO choice heavy, 5.l5
$3.50; rough heavy, 4.pp5 10; light, i,lbl
bl0; bulk Of sales. 4.i5if5 TO-
Sheep-Receipjts 300 market steady;
lambs, steady. good TO choice wethers,
l75Q5.&; fair 10 choice mixed, 3.jq4. 80;
western sheep, 4.2jd5.lj, native lambs,
iUg5.Oi western lambs, 5.50q6 o..
OMAHA
South Omaha, April 9-Cattle--Recepts,
100; market nomlnally unchanged.
HogS-ReCeipts, l,9O; market DC. high
err Heavy 4&ub.ji mixed, i.s2izii4 20
light, 4 Wg6.o; pigs, i.oOqA.SO; bulk OF
sales, i5q5.0O.
sheep-keceipts 1900; market steady
Westerns, i,lonO,2, wethers, a6Ol5 q
ewes 1885 ~, common and stOckers
3VVu4,S; lambs. 5.C0aj.@
KANSAS CITY.
Kansas City, April 9-Cattle-Recelpts
zoos market unchanged,
Hogs-Receipts, 200; steady Bulk OF
sales, 4.g5d55; heavy, 500li5 10; pack.
ers, 1896, 0j, pigs and light, 4.&a5.00.
Sheep-Receipts, none, market nominal
~ steady MuttOns, i.jDG5,9; lambs, go
q6.9O; range wethers 5,UOa5.55; ewes, 35l
Q5,Q,
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II pounds sugar for SLOO.
PEOPLES CASH STORE.
Three Great Hats,

The Miller the Warburton, the Den.
ney, 81 hats of distinction, When YOU
sce q smart hat It is one Of these.
BROWN, TERRY 4 WOODRUFF co.
1866 Main street.
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BANK CLEARINGS.

New York, April S.--The following
table, compiled by Bradstreet. shows
the bank clearlngs at the principal
cities for the week ended April 7, with
the percentage Of increase and de-
crease, az compared with the cores
ponding week last year:
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
MISCELLANEOUS.
THIRTY-THREE AND ONE
THIRD PER CENT REDUCTION.

Hargreave's and Taber. Prang's elc-
giant framed pictures, popular subjects
and new designs Sale on for 10 days
only.
DEsERET NEWS BOOK STORE.
Main Street
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
GIANT COPPER QUEEN
MINING COMPANY

A meeting OF the company will he
held In the Walker Bldgr Second South
room 225, l.. r. Peers Office ON Mon
day, the nth day Of April ot 3 p, m.
All stockholders are expected to be
present .-
Q, h. DUGCER,
Prost and Manager
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POSTPONED Until the goth.

Through an understanding made be.
tween me two sides ut war In Males
tie copper circles the bankruptcy case
viii not be called up IN the federal court
uutil the goth inst
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REGrLAR cAI.L sALES-

Con Mercur. 200 AZ SO,
Daly-West, 8 at $3.50 So at $3.50, 3 at
$3.50.
Grand Central 200 AT 1855.
Lower Mammoth. 100 at 3oH, 1900 at
80; 100 at 81,
Butler-Mberal, 70 at A.
New York Bonanza 1900 at Q.
Tetro, 900 at 29ls,
OPEN BOARD SALES.
Daly-West, 10 at $3.50
Martha Washington, 1000 at ".
Tetro 800 at 20 q 30.
REHABILITATION.
Shares Value.
NeBular call .,,', go" 1910 S3,72O00
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Park City Ore Shipments.

Especial to the "News.O
Park City April 9--Shipments were
made from four Park city mines this
week as follows,
Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1904-04-09
TINTICqORR SHIPMENTS.
A Total OF ii0 Car Loads Dispatched
During the Week
Special correspondence,

Special Correspondence.
Eureka, April S.-The ore shipments
from the TlntIc district for the week
amounted to 40 carloads, the following
properties being the producers;
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BuIldIng nermIts Issued durlnR tho

week were,
William II. a. Hardman. ?52 west
Seventh South, additonn....,s 800
w. c. Stains, Third ana First,
brick residence ..n,. ,,..,u. 5000
William Ellerbeck, A south Ninth
East brick cottage .,,..,.... $500
Il, A. Johnson, 12S south State,
work shop o,,n,,.,.,...., 200
William ID, Neal, 200 Center
street residence .,,,,..,u.,,.n 1000
Howe King Tenth South and
Eighth East, brick cottage n.. 100
Mrs Kate Stevenson, alley be-
tween Second and Third South
ana Eighth and Ninth East,
frame cottage D...,..,,,,,n $50
NJ, l.. Neberker Fourth East be-
tween First and Second South,
brick residence 80, n,.o.u., 1900
-----s.
lOtal '',''t''t's,'''t,,ss.'t fl(fDU
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ORE AND BULLION
SOLD FOR $50, 900.

The ore and bullion settlements
reported through Mccormick &
Co.. for the fiscal week ending
April s, aggregated the sum OF
$500, OOO as follows:
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2o3.2O4 Atlas Block,
Annual statement, for the Year ending
December 81. 1908, OF the condition OF the
COMMERCIAL UNION
ASSURANCE COMPANY.

The name and location Of the company
Commercial Union Assurance Conn
pany, London, England.
Name Of Manager Pacific Coast Branch,
Chas y. Mullins, San Francisco cal
The amount Of It's statutory.
deposlt IS ,..,....,....ns 10000 %
The amount OF its assets Ia !. 1881, 7AU
The amount Of It's liabilities .. =.
Including capital Is .,,"r. 2SSS'SSW
The amount OF It's income
during the preceding ealen- "a. ga r,
oar year 900, - - Fsss''f.,f oloV'oN'"i
The amount Of Its expendl-
lures during the preceding
calendar year u,,. " ".',. ZSoj'VifD
The amount OF losses paid
during the preceding calen- a., ~. 4,
Oar year '''," ,.'.'.' '"''H' hooo'"o'W
The amount of risks writ
ten during the year u,u. 3i2SlLSiO'W
The amount OF risks In force
at the end Of the year,, iOl, IlS,%6'W
State OF Utah, Office OF the Secretary OF
state. 81,
/. James r. Hammond, Secretary OF
State Of the State OF Titan, do hereby GER
tlfy that the above named Insurance
Company has fled In my office a detailed
statement of It's condition, from which
the foregoing statement has been prepar..
ed and that the said company has In all
other respects compiled with tho laws OF
the State relating 20 Insurance.
In Testimony Whereof, have hereunto
SET my hand and affixed the great seal
OF the state Of Utah this 9th day OF Feb
1seal5 ]. T. HAMMOND,
Secretary OF state
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THE AMERICAN FIRE
INSURANCE COMPANY.

The name and location or the coma
The American Fire Insurance ''''
pany Philadelphia. Ia - ,i,,t.
Name Of President Thomas H. AVN
Name Of Secretary John Il Packard ''
The amount VI ils caW'd', nO.W
stock w .,., ." 80 ''''U.'
Tho amoLnt Of It's caplIH o.Nn
stock paid up Is ..."g'" oSGMlu
The amount Of It's assets -
Tho amount OF its liablllueA outiNG
dncludng caplton is 49,. -''''''
The amount OF us income
during the preceding '"'"- t,ol3D.d
dar year s,,tss ts'f''''' ID
The amount Of Us oNpeh9,,
lures during the pI'', .''.', llemn
The amount Of Losses pWu
during the " .ced'ns '''''' i5i@H
dar year .,,,t.. 90, 'nt'',,,u
The amount ~ risks N'N' ga ga qI D.
len during the year, $500, i''.'
The amount OF risks In iore' ,,- "a 20 %
et Tho end Of the year ''''
State OF Utah ofAce OF the SECRETARY "
lanes II, Hammond secretea5sSy, M
state OF the state Of luul' w Insurance
certify that the above hainyu , dci0llfd
company has filed IN my, o,D'gs rCm which
sstatament OF It's condition IIoU prf.
,he fnoyresoIns statement has Gye' bss in
Wv ana tllat the said CompaanA IN Vs
pi oo,her yesnects complied WIN Ue
~ he STATE relating TO insuHl'J .rn,nlo
y IN testimony whereof ! i GM' Great Tg, seal
set my hand aud aiilSeu, Is"' an day q
Of the state Of Utah in'0 81" WV
March. A. D. lWt p, HAMMOND
tseaD . secretary Of s'''e
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session MARKET.

Closing quotations today as re-
ported by Hudson & Sons Co.,
brokers. were;
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BONDS

Articles Of incorporation Of the Fra.
ternal Hall association OF Murray were
filed In the county clerks office today
The capital stock Of the association is
$4,000, divided into shares Of the par
value Of $40 each, The directors are j.
G, Terrence, A, u. Short A, NJ. Gulden-
zOpf Matt Gibbs. c, Il. Nicholas and
u. NJ HaIgh The object Of the lncor.
poratlon Ia TO erect hall for the fra
ternal societies Of Murray,
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ANNUAL STATEMENTS Of Insurance Companies Represented tine
SmedIey WakeIins Insurance Agency
2os 2o4 Atlas Block, Salt Lake CITY,
Salt Lake City.

Annual statement, for the Year ei , N.Y.
December 81, 1900, OF the condition oi Wv
Grant County herald. [volume] (Lancaster, Wis.) 1850-1968, 1904-12-17
the greatest epoch in our civiliza-
tiOn.
TRYING TIMES.
POstOtfice Employees and Postal Clerks
Have Busy Week in Store.

The next week will be a trying
one for Uncle Sans employees who
handle the mail. Even in our small
local postoffice a thousand exrta
packages will be handled each day
next week. AS the happy day APP
proaches this number may be
doubled, as many receive and con-
sign holiday gifts through the mails.
The rural mail carriers will have
extra loads to carry, too. With all
this immense run of business it
should not be strange if an oc-
casional package is delayed or mis-
placed, although such cases have
been and will be rare. Uncle Sam
is very ~exacting of his servants but
he does not expect them to do i'm
possible things or perform miracles.
If your package does not come, it
may possibly be due to the careless
ness of some postal employed,
somewhere, but the chances are
about ten to n that it isn't. If it
arrives at the office of delivery all
right with your legible address, you
will get it, neither the postmaster
nor any of his employees will try to
keep it from you. If it is in the
office, they will be just as anxious
for you to have it as you are to get
it, sc possess your soul with patience
and bear with the overworked pos
tai force whether you live in Lam
caster or elsewhere.