The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1904-10-05
Has Good Chance TO Defeat Multi.
nomah Eleven in Game TO
Be Played Saturday.
HAS WEIGHT AND SPEED, TOO
If Officials Do What Is Right
Commercial Club Football
Players WIN Probably
Be Successful.

As to whether or. not II Is advisable
to secure bunch of heavy football
players there has been much specula-
tion. Experts agree that speed and
weight combined so to strengthen the
team. but where only one OF the two
qualities is available the dope is roll
ed two ways,
When the Commercial Club team
goes against the Multnomah aggrega-
ton at Portland on Saturday 1t win
be pitted against an aggregation that
will outweigh 1t 12 pounds to the man
which, from the standpoint of weight,
would be equivalent to depriying the
Commercials Of Roxy Graham. who tips
the scales at 1870. Frank L. Watkins,
manager Of the Multnomah eleven,
has sent down list OF 10 men from
whom the eleven will be selected, Here
Is the list;
Centers-Grieves, 2l2: Rintoul. 2S5;
Kellar, 1856; guards-Ross, 2l7; Seeley,
100: Gault. 1876: wilhelm. 1856; tackles
Pratt. 1874; Klrkley, 175 ends--Dowl-
ing (captain), 147; Jordon, l40; quar-
ters-Kerrigan. 142; Holman. $50;
halves-Dolph, 175; Carroll, 10;
Coates, 165; Northrup, 1SO; Healy
150; fullback-Horan, 205.
Now, a pencil. some paper and a
few moments figuring shows that the
combined weight Of this aggregation
of humanity is S4Os pounds-an av-
erage per man of about 1T. Perhaps
Multnomah can get the necessary
speed out OF this bunch. but lots Of
people can't see It in that light.
Here is the weight OF the CONNER
clal team: Center-Bay. 165; right
guard-Gammal EOS; right tackle
Sutton. ls5; right end-Regan. 1870; left
guard-a gentleman whose name will
be made known later, 1872; left tackle
Blair, 173; left end-Painter. 100;
arterback--Stockton 145; left half
back-Tallant, 165; right halfbaek-
Graham, 1870; fullback-Flannigan. ISL.
This is a total weight of 1911 pounds,
or an average of 1876. Now, the fellow
who weighs 1855 pounds Is a pretty
husky lad-such fellow as Nat Tai
liant or Jack Bay or Ted Sutton,
Those men are not only big enough to
handle the biggest, but they are there
with the speed. Five Of the eleven
men of the Commercial team are just
about the average weight, whereas
only two of the 10 mentioned in Mr..
Watkins letter are anywhere near the
average Of the Multnomah aggrega-
tion.
What is more, Commercials big men
are fast. The new left guard weighs
1872 pounds, and it's all bone. He runs
somewhat like deer. Flanagan, the
powerful fullback is also very fast,
and even Gammal is quick In getting
away. There is no man mis- weight in
the Multnomah team, with the excep-
tion of Horan, who is liable to show
him any speed. 1t may be said Regan
and Graham are light, but their work
demonstrates that they are strong
enough for the purposes required.
Fast men have won all the football
games which have ben won. Mr..
Horan, sporting editor of the Journal,
seems inclined to the belief that weight
is essential, but an average of 1855
pounds ought to win Saturdays game,
Sunday Commercial scored a touch
down on trick play that never
could have been executed with an av-
erage of III. Nor is there any con-
vincing reason to believe that III
average could stop this play. To de-
feat 1t several speedy men are re-