New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1904-02-23

plicity on the part OF the United States. and
asked rs there any man, friend or Zoe. who
viii doubt that statement? VIII the campaign
. orators from Portland 20 San Francisco have
among them one who viii accuse that brave and
honest man OF dishonesty when he gave utter
ance to that statement"
Again. declaring that later events had vindi-
Gated his course. Mr.. Hoar expressed his con-
adence in the wisdom and courage OF the
President" saying ne had no secrets from the
people and adding: We approve what he has
done already. and what he has promised 10 do"
Massachusetts, had he said. supported MI.
Roosevelt through one administration and eK-
pected to support him IN another.
PANAMA's INDEPENDENCE
Passing to the more immediate consideration
OF the treaty, Mr.. Hoar said that the inde-
pendence Of Panama is an established fact, and
all the Senate has 70 DO Is 10 deal with the
treaty on its merits.
Speaking OF the Presidents action IN regard
to the recognition OF a new government Mr..
Hoar quoted from a speech made few weeks
ago 70 the effect that he did not believe much
information could be had from Panama relat-
ing 10 the formation OF the new republic, and
he added that Il was well known 10 the Presi-
dent when he acted that he could set no more
information II he waited year.
Mr.. HOar called attention 70 the fact that
Massachusetts had kept Republican Senators n
washington ever since the birth OF the Repub-
ucan party, and said that none OF them had
worn muzzles They had been outspoken. and
at times independent. but as rule the Senate
has come around TO their way OF thinking In
the end He had. he said, been kept In the
Senate longer than any other man from the
state
Repeating his Intention Of supporting the
treaty, Nr. Hosr said he believed ratification
ra.a rHHH Of M
faction OF feeling that he had done something
TO put the transaction on that level
CLASH WITH SENATOR FORAKER
Mr.. Hoar complained OF the speech made by
Nr. Foraker IN criticism OF hts previous address.
and when Nr. HOar concluded 8Ir. Foraker in
reply said that II he had misunderstood Mt.
Hoa- on the former occasion he was not the
only Senator who had done So lie quoted the
speech made by AIR. German in which the latter
had highly commended Mr.. Hoar's speech
Whether M German properly interpreted the
speech the record must testify and 3Ir. Foraker
quoted passages from Mr.. Hears former speech
In Justification OF his Interpretation he re-
ferred 10 the fact that Mr.. HoaT IN his first
speech had quoted number Of Official tele-
grams bearing the situation IN Panama,
drawing the conclusion that the United States
had encouraged the Panama revolution and then
had taken the spoils
Mir. Hoar evidently was nettled by the state
ment and he interrupted Mr.. Foraker 10 say
that this was not his conclusion, but the con-
clUsion q others end that he had mentioned
the fact On the contrary, be had spoken IN
praise OF the President
Mr.. Foraker said the Massachusetts, Senator
had spoken in terms Of praise OF the President.
but az What avail IS al that when coupled
with the Senator's Interpretation OF the tele-
grams and that IN the face % what the Presl-
dent had said about having no completely IN the
Panama uprisinE2'
CHARGES OF MISREPRESENTATION.
Nj. Hoar said he had 10 doubt OF Nr. For
aker's sincerity, but" he added. I cannot
reconcile his expression OF respect for ne with
his expression Of his disbelief OF what say Is
my position"
Mr. Foraker said he was merely following the
example Of Nr. Hoar. who had both praised and
criticised the President in his former speech
The Senator totally perverts what / said"
replied ar Hoar- He did so On the previous
occasion, and he does so now, and he does that
not from any desire 70 90 so. but solely because
OF his being IN very Jealous and heated frame
Of mind"
TO whom" asked M Foraker "did the Sen
otor refer as a policeman" abiding 70 a former
speech made by NJ. Hoar IN which he compared
the United States IN the Panama affair 70 a big
policeman who manacled a small man and then
seized the spoils
Mr. Hoar replied that he d,d not mean the
President, and insisted that Mr. Foraker had
undertaken 10 Interpret his meaning by separau-
Ing G portion o. his speech from the context
inc senators STOOD within TWO or three feet
Of each other. and a. ked back and forth direct
ly. They gesticulated earnestly. and spoke with
great emphasis, frequently pUnctultEg their
remarks with expressions Of mutual regard.
Each asserted more than once that the other
was mistaken, and as frequently the statement
The situation was tense, and lasted FOR several
minutes urtil TIC rresi5irg officer called atfe1
IN Fra #|rF p ~
immediate point OF dispute was whether al the
time OF Nr. Hears former speech q denial had
been made OF the Presidents completely IN the
Panama auair, dr. itoar contenclng that no
such denial had been made. when Afr. Foraker
faid Il had been the Massachusetts Senator re-
mr.. Hoar charged that Mr. Foraker had dore
him injustice. but The latter replied that such
was not the case. On the contrary the injustice
that the President had denied the completely
charge through the press said NJ. Foraker and.
IN view Of that denial. he had absolute faith IN
the President and his administration. His com
plant was that Mr.. Hoar had put the President
IN q false light
Mr. Hoar replied that the President should
make his communication 20 Congress, and not
20 the press and Nj. Foraker replied that that,
too. had been done.
CARIACK ATTACKS BUNAU-vARILLA-
When the controversy between Messrs Hoar
and Foraker ended. Mr.. Carmack took the floor.
He said h. had no desire 10 take part In "the
le'-A-'-Ag NNlh ED4ll5 DL on the blltE tl0es
he wanted TO speak to another branch OF the
canal question His remarks were a severe ar
ragnmeut OF Minister Bunau-Varfla, and IN
cluded review OF his connection with the
Panama, based on official French documents
which were quoted. His charge was that Mr..
Bunau-Varilla had been associated with Baron
/ &c Reinach IN his dealings with the stockholders
OF the old canal company. de charged that the
present minister had taken advantage Of the
/ situation 10 wreck the enterprise for the pur-