The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1904-10-25

and 1 took it
Q.-After you had been paid the en-
tire principal on those bonds, Mr.. Ma
ton states by calculation there was
$242 paid to you of interest ON those
bonds afterwards
Al didn't realize what the amount
was; never made any calculation.
Odd you not know that that was
entitled to it?
Aft L thought 1 was not entitled
to it, would tender it back.
Q.-What is your statement now,
knowing all these facts?
At Is imInateriaI to the issues i'm
this case. 1 judge.
Q.-Is that the shoot you desire to
take in answer to the straightforward
wrong that you should take that $242
from the treasury for interest after
you had been paid the full principal
of those bonds? 1 give you the privi-
lege to answer it as you please.
Al looked upon it that I was enti-
tied to interest until the transaction
was closed, and did not discuss 1t with
any one or give it any particular con-
sideration.
Q-Do you mean that if it had not
been closed up for a year, you would
still have been entitled to interest?
Al do not mean any such thing.
Direct-Examination
Questions by Mr.. Waters:
Q.--With the $4,000 you received
from the county for refund1ng the
bonds, and the $4,000 from the dis
count in the price from Thompson,
makes your part of the profits $11,-
900 to the good? Is that correct?
A.-NO, il is not
GLOW much does it make?
AIN the first place, my cOmpen-
Sation from COmanclle county is scat
tered over a period of years and bears
no interest. L anticipate that that Is
worth, at current rates OF discount,
little better than $4,000. In the next
place, had lot of expense In con-
nectfOn with a transaction of this kind
Q.-DO you mean there was any of
this paid to any person else?
Q.-TO whom?
Al decline to answer further than
to say that none of 1t was paid to
any member of the State School fund
commission OF to the state treasurer
or to anybody connected with the state
of Kansas.
Q--Possibly by giving me the names
of these people, I could probably show.
by further testimony that you know
nothing about what was done?
A.-Nothing was paid in connection
with the transaction except the legiti-
mate, proper and legal expenses of the
transaction.
Odd you pay anything to anybody
that is connected with the state house
or state offices?
Al did not.
Q.-Or any clerk in the offices?
Al did not.
Q.-Or any friend?
Al want to say to you that did
not, directly or indirectly, pay any
money to any members of the state
school fund commission or to the
treasurer of the state of Kansas, or to
any one else for them. and that no
money was paid them directly or indi-
rectly, by any shift or device or eva
or in a nv ma a
If you can tell me any way 1 can state
that stronger, will put it.
Q.-But you decline to state who you
paid it to.
Al have stated that I had some
expenses connected with it, and what
hose expenses were is my private bust
ness.
OFF they were legitimate expenses, |
Why do you desire to keep it back and |
not testify as to who it was paid to?
Al do not care to bring outside peo- |
pie into the transaction. I will testify |
% anything or any question that can
Q.-Possibly, regardless of your want |
IF knowledge that any payments of |
money made by you of your commits |
lions had any connection with any of /
hese state officers, they may have |
Known more about it than you did?
Al have a little bit of sense about |
hose things, and 1 say it could not be. |
Odd you pay any money to any !
county OII1cef IN GOInanCnG
Al paid no money to any county /
officer in COmanche county who had |
lnything TO do with the refunding of
hose bonds.
Odd you pay any money TO any |
)fficer of COmanche county that was
In officer of that county, whether he
lad anything to do with the refunding
If the bonds or not?
A.-Everything that was paid i'm
JOmanche county was done openly and
lbOve board and honestly and fairly;
md further than that 1 Will not state.
Q.-Then do you decline to state
whether or not you paid portion of
his $4,000 that you received from
Jomanche county to any officer. of
COmanche county? Do you decline to
lnswer that question? 1t is up to you,
Brother GODDARD, right now.
A.-What paid in Comanche cOun-
v is absolutely inmaterial to the is
ues in this case, and 1 decline to an
wer. COmanche county was not
yrOnged by anything that did there,
md no transaction of mine in that
N any way.
O.-There is nothing so nice in a
Quare transaction as to take the lid
If, Brother GODDARD, and let the whole
world see it: and / ask you this QueS-
ion again: Give me the name of the
ficer in Comanche county, whether he
lid or did not have anything to do
With the refunding of the bonds, to
NnOin you pau part Oh tAlIS So.UOU.
A.-That question assumes that
here was an officer that was paid
money.
Q.-YeS, sir.
Al have not said there was.
Q.-WaS it an officer that you paid it
o? 1t is up to you, Brother GODDARD, to
nSwer?
A.-So far as am concerned, 1 have
10 hesitation about telling just what
vas done in Comanche county. The /
01V n11RSfiaap that makes mo hesitate .
With regard to the rights of others.
ON a legitimate transaction there
an be no wrong committed by telling
verifying that a man knows, and
m going to ask you this question for
he last time: If there is any officer
f Comanche county who got anY of