The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1904-01-14
CONDEMNED
BY SENATOR CARhACK,,
DEFENDED BY SPOONER
Administrations Isthmian Policy
Bitterly Assailed by Ten
neSSee Democrat.
TILLMAN IN THE FRAY
Interrupted the Wisconsin Senator
in His Usual "Pitchforking'
Manner.

WASHINGTON. Jan. 1S.-Panama again
to-day was the principal subject Of consid-
Grafton i'm the Senate. and, as on yesterday
the debate spirited. Mr.. Carmack
opened the proceedings with a set speech in
pointed criticism of the Presidents course
and was followed by Mr.. spooner, the only
other speaker Of the day, in defense or the
Presidents action as law-abiding and in de-
Tense OF the President himself as pa
triotic, brave and true man."
Mr.. Carmack contended that President
Roosevelt had not contented himself with
recognition of Panama. but had interviewed
His acts were not simply offensive, not
simply a cause for war. but they were
war" he said. LAS matter of fact, there
never was any insurrection on the 18TH
mus" said Mr.. Carmack. They speak of
the rising" he said. "as the act of one
man. Very truel And that one man was
the President of the United States
Discussing the act of Colonel Black of
the United States army in raising the first
flag in the Panama republic. the senator
criticised him sharply. I'VE know" he
said, what would happen if at any other
place an officer of the United States should
be found plotting with the enemies of a
country with which we were at peace.
do not believe that Colonel Black would
have engaged in this plot if he hadn't be-
lieved that he was doing the will of the
administration"
LIKENED TO MOB.
Mr.. Carmack declared that a mob has
much right to hang its victims as the Pres
ident to secure what he wants by disre-
gard of the law. President Roosevelt" he
said, loses the power of reasoning and his
moral sense when he becomes involved In
action" and exclaimed: Into what diff
cuties may we not be led by this headlong
mani He did not agree that the Presi-
dent would have hesitated If Colombia had
been a stronger nation. On the contrary,
the President would have welcomed such
! an opportunity. He makes history as he
would order melOdrama-make certain
that the star performer is always In the
| center OF the stage
| When Mr. Carmack took his seat Mr..
Aldrich asked what practical system Mr..
Carmack had to offer.
Defeat the treaty" responded Mr.. Car
Then what?'
Build the Nicaraguan canal!'
| 'Ah! responded Mr.. Aldrich, that is
the milk in the cocOanut." Mr.. Aldrich pro
| ceeded TO say that he was in favor of build
ing the canal and building it now.
| Mr.. Spooner replied to Mr.. Carmack, say
ing that he had felt regret at hearing the
| criticisms of the President, who had regis
| tered oath in heaven TO discharge his
| duties. Mr.. Carmack had made a sinister
and unsupported statement when he said
that this country had begun a systematic
encroachment on the rights of the South
! American republics. No man stood more
| consistently for those republics than had
| President Roosevelt, and Mr. Spooner in
stanced the course of the President in the
Venezuelan difficulty. No President in our
history had stood more stanchly for the
Monroe doctrine.
Mr.. Spooner also gave attention to the
/ charges of disobedience of law by the Pres
/ ident. THE only enemies he had in the
/ United States are the result of his obedi-
ence to and enforcement of the law. He has
| thought not of himself but only of his
oath. He said again and again, speaking
of the relation of capital and labor, that
they have an equal right 10 combine; Dut
that both must keep within the law.
A NANCY LOT.
After reviewing the events relating to the
canal negotiations, Mr.. Spooner asked
whether any senator would, under the cir
| cumstances. have turned his back on Pana-
ma so long as there was bill pending in
| the Colombian Congress. and he put the
| question especially to Mr.. Tillman, who was
| on his feet The latter said he would have
| entered into negotiations with Nicaragua
| and would have reported back to Congress
| for further instructions. He would then
| have said to Colombia: You are NANCY
| lot: get on the face or the eartn, III take
| the country and build the canal.
This remark caused outburst Of laugh
ter. both on the floor Of the Senate and in
the galleries.
| that while he could not accept the senator's
! language, he congratulated him on coming
to the Presidents position.
Mr. Tfllman called attention to Mr. Spoon
er's hesitation, and the latter replied that II
was because he was thinking how thankful
we should be that we haven't President
..Nr1d
| guage as the senator from South carolina
had used.
| Replying to 1.-The man and not to the SEN
| ator.'' Mr. Tillman asked Mr.. Spooner
whether he would prefer President who
! would say in plain terms, Get out or the
| way" rather than to have mixed up in the
bastard birth of the republic of Panama.
| Later in the discussion Mr.. Tfllman asked
! if a discreet man would not also have
waited on Congress before warning ooioIIl1
| Mr. Sponer answered in the negative, say
! ing that the safety the honor and the inter
ests OF the United States required that
i President should do just what theodore
| Roosevelt had done.
| Mr.. Tillman urged that Mr.. Spooner had
| evaded the real question. what he wanted
to know was whether the President had the
right 10 use the army and navy as ne hau
''Oh Lordr' exclaimed Mr.. Spooner.
you'll have TO call on the Lord frequent
" in this matter" retorted Mr.. Tillman.
81 did not address the senator from South
/
said Mr.. Spooner.
HOAR'S RESOLUTION.
During the day Mr.. Hale offered the fol-
lowing resolution as the result of the agree
ment between himself and Mr.. Bacon dur
ing yesterdays session looking to a set
Element OF the Panama question.
Whereas, The State of Panama, former
" a part of the Republic of Colombia, has
seeded from that republic and has set up
a government. republican in form, under
the name OF the Republic of Panama and
Whereas. The independence of said Re-
public of Panama has been recognized by
the United States and by many other ma
lions, and
Whereas, A treaty is now pending be-
fore the Senate between the United States
and the Republic of Panama. the ratifca-
ton OF which Will insure the speedy build
ing of the interoceanic canal by the United
States across the territory of said Republic
of Panama; therefore,
Resolved That in any claim which the
Republic of Colombia, in any form, may
make against the said Republic of Panama
for indemnifcaton or loss of territory or
increased burden OF the debt of said Re
public of Colombia, the President is re-
orpSfed N tender his hest offices iowa ri