The Minneapolis journal., 1904-12-07
GARDNER SAYS HE
WILL TELL MORE.
DEFENSE IN AMEs CASE EAGER
TO HEAR.
Anles' Lieutenant Is Questioned About
Interviews with Grand Jurors anu
Hint of Bribe Is Made-Mr. Gary
Says He Will "show Up These Eel
loWs,''

Questions asked Irwin A. Gardner
upon cross, examination this morning in
the Ames trial give the impression that
ths defense a: b ~ viii aliege conspiracy t.
Clarke, foreman Of the municipal
grand juryO as its head and front.
After an hour and half spent by
MIR. Cary in vain effort to entangle
the state g witness, sthe baffled attor-
dramatically: --' -. 's re-. s s,s
- do you know Hovey q: Clarkeq"
Everyone in the courtroom /" sat up and
took notice. 7,.ss
"How well do you know him9'
81 met him during DIR. Ames' ad-
ministration and at the doctors direc-
tion.o .e.. 49,. 49,
'ssHave you ever had any converse
tion with him concerning the investi-
cation of DR.. Amess''
"Mr. Clarke and several other grand
jurors came to the office and L had a
talk with. them there"
E'Did you, in that conversation, state
that you >did not know thing against
DR.. Ames?' -
1T presume did, -.
IT thought so. Did you not mako
an affidavit to that effect7'
Judge Kerr objected to the question
OA OAC &1Ouuu UAdU sLnC W4tACSS oU6GO-
ment was not the best evidence, add
ing:.s If there is any affidavit of that
kind, Jets, see it. We don't know
.stWe've got it .an right,'' retorted
MI. Gary, opening the paper book.
"Look it up in the paper book, if you
Gardner, make affidavit that you knew
nothing, and that Mr.. Clarke, flirting
5000 bill, said he had helped lots Of
poor men with as much as $500 and
"Ic object to those insinuating ques.
tions!' exclaimed Judge Kerr. 1T
you 9aIe g2t anydth,ng Tvs MS KIND
After considerable wrangling Mr..
Cary was ordered to show the, book to
counsel and did so just as the noon
recess was ordered. 49,. .>'~
The affidavit referred to is one made
by Gardner and incorporated in the
paper book Of his own case on an ap
affant states that he did tell Mr.
Clarke that he knew nothing against
DR.: Ames, but says nothing Of $500
bills.
"Of cofrse I told him so,'' sale
Gardner, after court had adjourned
81 denied any knowledge of graft anf
continued to do so until ordered b.
VI. AmeS u1ulSe4I. .lI MT. gary SOe
far enough he will get more than h
is LOOKING e for. He will open up tn
whole thing. I can tell more. If I hat
told the whole story lat first there nigh
not have been so many trials. -
"1'll show up these .fellows,' sal
Mr.. Cary this noon. HtWe're goin.
after them this time, and we are ga
: ing to get an acquittal'' >:st.5t ..s-..t7t
Gardner was on the stand again thi
afternoon; The case has soHHe promis
!, room is crowded with peoplet
The jury, completed late yesterda
afternoon, is as follows: -
Charles r. Rank, travelling salesman
:, 1874 Hennepin avenue; p. F. Campbell
photographer. 318 Ninth street; Albert c
Chambers, grain commission, Berkele
hotel; H. M Puffer, Port Huron Manu-
featuring company, 2440 Humboldt ave
| nue.; Elmer E.. Reed, travelling salesman
2O11 Columbus avenue; Daniel Reid, fin
Usher, 800 Third street N; James I
, Phillips, cashier, 1872 Hennepin avenue
, Louis McNevin, clerk, 2436 Fourteent
avenue S; George I. Ramsdell, travelling
man, 1924 Hennepin avenue; Edwar
+ Ransom, painter, 1905 Third street n
: James Pitblade, salesman, 753 Quinc
2 street NE; G. c. Johnson, contractor, 81
v Sixteenth avenue N.
Odell Didn't Work for Love.
= R.. R. Ode1l promises to spring som
l sensations in the Ames case unless th
doctor pays what the lawyer claims h
g is entitled to for services during tn
/ third Ames trial. Mr.. Odell is tb
/ plaintiff in a 800 suit which was t
have been called today. All civil case
are being continued over the term an
J. like disposition, will be made of thj
q action The defendant claims that M
:, Odell was working for love.