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The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
c. c. & /. BRIDGE
IS NOT TN WAY
ANOTHER CAUSE FOR TROUBLE
OF THE I. & E.-THE RIVER
BRIDGE UNSAFE FOR
HEAVY iNTERUBAN CARS
And They Should Not Go Over Them
Il. & E. Must Come in
Some Other Way.
HEAVY iNTERUBAN CARS

The controversy that is holding up
the through traffic between Columbus,
Ohio, and indianapolis, Indiana, seems
to have discovered another cause for
itself, namely that it is not the c., G..
& L. bridge that is the cause So much
as the bridge over the Whitewater,
which, it is feared, would not bear
the weight Of the numbers Of heavy
interurbans that would pass over 1T
were the c., C. & L. bridge raised.
AS the bridge was built solely for
wagon and street car travel and as
there have been many fears as to its
strength expressed, it seems as though
council takes this as its reason for
refusing to order the c., G. & l..
bridge raised, as the nterurbans
would run over this bridge if the c.,
c. c. & /. one were raised.
Some time ago. when a committee
of business men called on the council
to have the bridge raised, the council
appointed an investigating committee,
which reported that even if the c., c.
& L. bridge were to be raised, the
bridge over the Whitewater would
not be quite safe. This is thought tc
be the reason that the council was
holding out against the Indianapolis
& Eastern traction company unit
the latter should have access over the
c., G.. & r. bridge or shall build one
Of its own. The I. &. E. officials are
expecting that the way out Of the
difficulty will be shown by the fact
that the 7. & f. is desired to enter
the city over a bridge other than The
Main street one, on account of tht
unsafeness of the latter.
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Cripple Creek, June 9.-Geo. R.
Kyner, proprietor Of the Victor Rec
ord, whose plant was destroyed by
the mob, says he will resume publica-
tion as soon as possible. He estimates
the loss at $4,000. Although the off
cial organ Of the Union, the Record
has denounced violence, and it's last
issue favored the calling off Of the
strike
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
4. J. HANES
Highly Honored-Received an
Appointment.

County Auditor H. J. Hanes
received the following interest
ing communication:
Republican National Conven-
tion 1904, Chicago, June 21.
To Mr.. H. j. Hanes:
You are hereby appointed
assistant sergeant-at-arms of
the Republican National Con-
vention.
Please signify your accept
ance and report for duty at
convention headquarters, Chi
cago, not later than 10 p. m.
June Is.
Yours truly,
VIM. F. Stone,
Sergeant-at-Arms.
(Seal.)
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
TEN GRADUATES
And Prof. D. w. Dennis Will Deliver
the Glass Address.

Next Saturday night the eighth
grade and Patterson commencement
will be held at the high school build
ing in Campbellstown. Prof. D. w.
Dennis of Earlham will deliver the
class address. There will be ten grad
yates.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
RICHMOND BOYS
Among Glass of 200 at Purdue.
(Special to the Palladium.) J

Lafayette, Ind, June "a class
Of two hundred was graduated from
Purdue University yesterday. This is
the largest class in the history of the
institution. The Richmond students
who received diplomas are Clifford
Bradbury electrical engineering) ;
Raymond B. Nicholson electrical en-
gineering).
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
DR.. SVADENER
Will Deliver Commencement Address
At Boxwell.

The commencement of the Boxwell
school, in Preble county, Ohio, will
be held on Friday evening, June Oath.
Miss Miller is superintendent. There
are two graduates-Grace Murray
and Harry Prather. Rev. DIR. Swad-
ener of First M. E. church will de-
liver the commencement address.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
(Seal.)

The invitation is a fine speci-
men Of the printers art. It is
an engraving at the head Of
which is a picture Of the ma
tional capitol and on the left
side is an eagle, with the flag
and shield. 1t is quite an hon
or to receive the appointment,
but it is one deserved, as there
is no better man nor more ar
dent Republican than Mr..
Hanes. He will accept the hon
or and report for duty at the
proper time.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
MOTION WAS
OVERRULED
In the Case of Iona Marshall VS.. D.
& W.

AS stated yesterday a motion was
made for a rehearing in the damage
suit of Iona Marshall VS.. the Dayton
& Western Traction Co. Judge Fox
heard the argument and refused the
request of the Dayton e. Western for
new trial
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
EASTERN WAR
(By Associated Press.)

Toxic, June 9.-Official reports
show that the first section of Talie-
wan Bay has been completely cleear-
ed of mines. Two Russian ships We're
found under water, one is believed to
be the cruiser Boyarin.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
TO BUILD GREENHOUSES.

Mr. J. M. Hodgin Of this city will
60 to Dayton next Monday. He has
the contract for building two new
green houses there.
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JACK GALLAGHER
Station Master at Little Rock, Ar
kansas.

Mr.. John Kenney, who is in the
city, says that while in Little Rock,
Arkansas, he met Jack Gallagher,
who was formerly a Richmond police
man. Mr.. Gallagher is now station
master of the Rock Island at Little
Rock, under Mr.. H. I. Miller, former
lv of Richmond.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
LEVI LETTER
Father of the Corn King and La
dy Curzon Died Suddenly.

Iby AssUc1ateu Fress.I
Bar Harbor, Maine, June 9.-Levi
z. Letter, pioneer merchant Of Chi
cago. died here suddenly today of
heart disease. He was the father of
Lady Curzon and Of Joseph w. Lei
ter. He was a member Of the firm of
Field, Letter & Co.
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CEDAR SPRINGS
The Hotel Will Be Opened About the
Goth.

According to the New Paris Mirror
the plan now is to open the Cedar
Springs Hotel about June 20, if pos
sible, and from present indications
it will be possible. e,a.s. ( :,
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09

The weekly edition The Prudential
is just out and is being distributed to
patrons. It is very interesting pa
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SANTO DOMINGO
All Ports Now Open to Commerce.

by Associated Press.)
Washington, June 9.-Admiral
Sigbee cabled the navy department
that all ports Of Santo Domingo is
now open to Commerce. The reyolu-
ton is now ended.
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TWO MEN KILLED.
(By Associated Pres

Kby ASSUc1aJeu IIesS.I
Carlo, Ills, June 9.-By wreck In
the Big Four yards today Engineer
Geo. Gibson and Fireman John Brew
ster were killed. ,....+,.l.L 49,.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
CHRlSTMAN FARM
In Preble County Sold For $94.6O
Per Acre.

The Daniel Chrisman farm near
Eaton, Ohio, which has been adver-
tised for sale was sold to Mr.. HE
stand of Eaton for $94.6O per acre.
The farm contains 16O acres.
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
DESTROYED
Main Building of Rensselaer, Poly
technic Institute Burned.

(By Associated Press.)
Troy, N. Y, June 9.-Rensselaer
Polytechnic Institute, main building,
was destroyed by fire today. Loss
100000. ..
The daily palladium. [volume] (Richmond, Ind.) 1904-1905, 1904-06-09
CITATION PAPERS
Served on Marion E. Chamness Of
Hagerstown.

Jesse Bailey, sheriff pro tenn, was
in Hagerstown yesterday serving ci-
tation papers on Marion E. Chamness.
He is charged with withholding funds
belonging to the estate of Geo. w.
Chamness, deceased. He was cited to
appear before Judge Fox and show
cause why he was holding such funds.
Mrs. J. M. Westcott went to Indiana
polls to spend the day. 9
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
Commentaries Long Trim.

An extraordinary case Of sleep walk
ing is reported of a young servant girl,
says a London cable dispatch to the
New York Herald. She went to bed
the other night in her employers house
at Roughton. Sussex. When she woke
heath, Norwich, eighteen miles away.
On a former occasion she took another
night walk In her sleep. waking up to
find herself fully dressed in Cromer.
several miles away from where she
had gone to sleep.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
HESSRS. WILLIAMS AND LITTLE.
1 FIELD DELIVER SPEECHES
IN THE HOUSE.
lEsI OF HuMoR PREVAILS
ITTLEFlELD DEFENDS TARIFF
STAND PAT POLICY.

Washington, April 2S.-In the pres
nee of crowded galleries and of al
lost a full membership, Messrs. Lit
ef1eld of Maine and Williams of Mis-
sssippi, in the house Wednesday
Jade speeches intended for the com
lg presidential campaign. The two
oeakers were wildly %applauded by
leir respective sides, but there was
"a absence of personalities such as
characterized the clash between Mes
IS. Dalzell and Cochran. Indeed, the
est of humor prevailed.
Mr.. I~ittlefield continually tainted
le Democrats with the utterances OF
II. Cochran and by name called on
averal prominent members Of that
arty in the house to answer yes" OF
10" whether they approved Mr.
ockran's tariff views, and whether
hey intended going before the people
4 the issue of free trade. He de.
tnded the protective tariff system
ON every point of view.
Mr.. Williams, adopting the tactics
4. MI. Littlefield, endeavored to force
ON the Republicans and from Mr..
ittlefeld in particular, categorical
1swers to several questions which he
Esemed pertinent. Mr.. Littlefield an
vered Eyes when asked if he ap-
eroved of everything in the McKin-
" administration, which enabled Mr..
Filliams to remind him that he Gilt
efield) and Mr.. Williams had stood
spgether in opposition to colonialism.
Sr. Williams asserted that the Repub-
cans ere going before the people
Pm the issue borrowed from the
samblers' table of standing pat"
Will Be No Investigation.
y During the morning session Speaker
annon announced his ruling on the
pit of order made by Mr.. Grosveor
yainst the consideration of the resolu-
on offered, Mr.. Cochran which he
famed to be privileged, to investi-
ate the charge that he had accepted
oney for his participation in support
] the election of Mckinley in 1896.
an elaborate opinion the speaker
aid he was warranted in holding that
lie resolution could not be entertained
J a matter of privilege. An appeal
ON the ruling by Mr.. Williams was
oted down by a strict party vote.
The house feconvened at 9 O'Clock
i'd adopted the conference report on
lie emergency river and harbor bill.
bill was passed granting to the state
I Minnesota certain lands for forestry
lrposes.
The ship bill again was taken up
nd passed without amendment.
The usual scenes incident to ap-
reaching adjournment were enacted.
any Republicans retired to the cloak
pom and sang patriotic songs. Peals
laughter which followed each song
ere heard in the house, but business
'oceeded as usual. Several solos
ere sung and all loudly applauded.
The house at ! a. m. took a recess
9ltil 10:3u o'clock a. m.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
Revolution of the Orient.

Almost everywhere in the far east
the old days Of cheap living are passing
away. Steamers. railways, telegraphs,
newspapers. labor saving machinery
and the production of western ideas
are slowly but surely revolutionizing
the orient. Shangtung wheat, which
formerly had no market beyond a ra-
dius of a few dozen miles from the
wheatfield, can now be shipped by
railway and steamship to any part of
the world. and in consequence every
Chinese buyer has to pay more for it.
In l1ke manner new facilities for eX-
port have doubled. trebled and in some
cases q~uadrupled the price of rice in
China, Siam and Japan.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
THREE FIREMEN KILLED.
Crushed to Death Beneath Falling
Walls at New York.

New York, April 2S.-Three lives
we're lost and property valued at
100000 was destroyed by fire at the
John Stanley Soap works here Weanes-
day.
The dead, all Of whom were firer~o,.
are: Thomas Madigan. James Crea7
and Hugo Arigone.
Madigan and Cream were buried ur-
der tons of debris, when the walls c:
the building fell and it was me-"
hours before their bodies were recov.-
cred. Arigone, who vas caught in the
same crash, was still alive when res
cred. but died at a hospital several
hours later.
Many other firemen called out by the
three alarms had narrow escapes, the
cause of the danger being the many ex-
blossoms of chemicals used in the
works. Besides the soap works the
Dunbar and Campbell lumber yards
were badly damaged.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
KNOX MAKES REPLY
TRANSMITS ANSWERS TO RESO.
LUTlONS OF INQUIRY FROM
Mr.. WILLIAMS.

Washington, April 2S.-Attorrav
General Knox Wednesday transmitted
to the house replies to the two resolu-
tions of inquiry introduced by Mr..
Williams (Miss.} relative to trusts.
First, replying to the question as to
whether any criminal prosecutions
bod been begun by him against per-
sons involved in the decision of the
supreme court of the United States in
the Northern Securities cas- as gully
Of violating the laws by entering into
combinations in restraint of trade, the
attorney general says:
"I have the honor to say that no
criminal prosecutions have been insti-
tuted against the persons referred to
in the resolutions, and that further
than this I do not deem it compatible
with the public interest to comply
with the resolution"
The other resolution asks if any in
vestigation eve vas made by the de-
partment Of the so-called anthracite
coal trust, consisting of the anthracite
coal carrying railroads.
Began an Investigation.
In reply to this resolution the attor-
ney general says the department of
justice began an investigation during
the great coal strike to ascertain if
there was a coal trust and if it vio-
lated the Sherman act. This investi-
cation soon discovered that a combine
did exist, but its existence was so
adroitly concealed that the establish
ment Of its existence would depend
upon the ability of the government to
obtain evidence from witnesses under
oath, which the department of justice
had no power to do.
The attorney general then says he
brought the matter to the attention of
the interstate commerce commission
and suggested that it act to the extent
OF its authority in the matter. About
this time, he says, a complaint was
made before the commission on the
subject, and he then reviews the liti-
cation ending in the decision of the
federal supreme court in favor of the
powers of the commission to compel
the production of the testimony.
81 an informed" he concludes, "the
commission is about to renew the
hearings, which, when completed, will
lay before the department of justice,
in connection with other evidence it
has gathered itself and has been fur
nished to 1t by sundry persons, all the
available information in relation to
the alleged combination.
Further than this ! do not deem it
compatible with the public interest tn
comply with the resolution"
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
The Slmnlan Tunnel.

The Simplon tunnel, one of the great
est engineering works in the world, is
rapidly approaching completion. Its
total length will be a little over twelve
miles, of which distance six and up
ward have been penetrated on the
north, or Brlgue, side and four and up
ward OF the south, or Italian, side,
leaving only Il fraction over one mile
vet to be completed. 1t is expected
that the two sections will be Joined
together in the coming May or June,
and it will not be long thereafter when
trains will regularly be running
through. The organization Of the work
is of high efficiency. No sickness ex-
lists among the men. The use of the
Brandt Grill Immediately suppresses
all dust, and there has not been a
single case of miners phthisis, al
though some 5000 men have been at
work for five years.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
AFTER A LONG BATTLE.
Police Of Oakland, CAL, Kill a pcs-
perate Negro.

Oakland, Cal, April 2S.--After a
fierce battle between the police ana
Wilson Anderson, a negro, lasting ten
hours, Anderson was shot and killed
Wednesday. Anderson had driven a
white M and a colored porter
from the house at Fourth and Broad
way, where he lived, at the point OF a
pistol and when Policemen Sherry and
Ford attempted to arrest the negro he
barricaded the doors and windows and
fred at everyone who appeared.
About twenty police officers sur
rounded the house and a running bat
tie was kept up, owe 100 shots being
fired by the police. Finally, Officer
Sherry stole up to a window snd fred,
wounding the negro. From another di-
rection Sergeant Clark fred into the
room. The negro fell to the floor and
the officers rushed into the house and
captured him. There we're nine bull
let's in his body.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
TOWN HAS A NARROW ESCAPE
Mount Vernon, S. D., in Danger, Of De-
struction by Fire.

Sioux City, Ia, April 2S.-The little
town of Mount Vernon, twelve miles
west of Mitchell, S. D.. had a narrow
escape from being Destroyed by fire
Wednesday. A warehouse first caught
fire and was burned to the ground.
The flames spread to four large eleva-
tors and all were burned. Embers
were carried to the business district
and dwelling houses and the Mitchell
fire department was called upon for
assistance. About 200 citizens re-
sponded on a special train furnished
by the Milwaukee railway and through
their efforts many buildings were
saved. The loss will probably reach
$50. O
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
MIKADO'S UNSEEN POWER.
Strong Faith of the Japanese In
Their Emperor.

AAA(AA A/AApCAOA
The divine attribute which the Jap
anese believe attaches to their emper-
or, the "son of heaven" is %curiously
shown in Admiral Togo's reply to the
imperial message of thanks sent him
and his men after the attempt to block
thur, says Richard H. Little, the. To-
kyo correspondent of the Chicago
News. The admiral in his message
says:
I'VE, humble subjects of your maj
esty, are deeply IMPRESSED by the gra-
cious imperial message granted US re
garding the attempt to seal the en-
trance to Port Arthur. 1t is a matter
of great regret to US that the attempt
was not successful as fully as could be
desired, yet we are grateful that al
most all the officers and men who I'M
dertook the task returned safely by
the unseen power of protection of your
illustrious majesty. I submit this re-
ply with profound humility"
The unseen power of protection of
the emperor'-there is something that
is written in every Japanese heart.
Perhaps that is why they are so will
ing to do and dare. The emperor is
with every one Of his loyal subjects.
His protection is always about him.
If he wills to withdraw it and let them
die it is only because it is best that it
should be so. The death of one man
or a hundred men or a thousand is
nothing. There is only one thing that
Is worth all others-the continued and
eve increasing glory of Japan.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
CHICAGO Union Stock Yards.

Chicago. April 27.-Cattle-Good to
prime steers. s5.00@5.65; poor to me-
dunn, $4,000 80; stockers and feed
ers, s3.oO@4.5O; cows, $1.75@4.40;
heifers, S2.25@4.75; calves, $500
500. Hogs-Mixed and butchers, $3.50
OSLO; good to choice heavy, 1850
$40; rough heavy. $4.S0QA.95; light,
$4.S0@5.O5. Sheep-Good to choice
wethers, $4.75@5.50; Western sheep.
clipped, S4.O0@6.30; native lambs.
$4.5O@6.00: Western. clipped. 5000
900, wooded, S6.00@7.0O.
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STRIKE MAY BE SETTLED.
eeel Corporation Miners at Ely, Minn.,
May Return to Work.

Duluth, April 2s.-Reports from Ely,
linn, indicate that at a meeting to-
ey of the citizens committee, which
inferred with the steel corporation
Metals relative to settling the strike
|hich has been on at the Pioneer and
handler mines, an adjustment will
reached and the men will return
work. Between 500 and GOO men
|ruck because they objected to work
hder Superintendent Charles Trezo-
i, claiming he was too harsh and
Entail in his treatment.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
COMMITTEE REPORTS.
.nate Devotes a Day to Their Con.
s%ideration.

Washington, April 2S.-The atten-
on of the senate was devoted Wednes-
aay to a consideration of reports of
difference committees, set speeches,
usage of bills to which there was
title Or no objection, and an eXecu-
We session. Final conference reports
u the sundry civil, general deficiency,
ostotice and the military academy
p%propriation bills we're agreed to,
,actically without any opposition.
peeches were made by Mr.. Cullom, on
he conduct of foreign affairs by
residents Mckinley and Roosevelt;
Z Mr.. Teller, on the public land ques-
on, and by Mr.. McLaurin, on the old
sc pension order and trusts. A reso-
ton authorizing the continuation
lring the recess of the inquiry into
lie right of Mr.. Smoot to his seat in
ie senate was favorably considered
lring the day.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
CHICAGO Grain and Provisions.

Chicago, April 27.-Wheat-May.
SIC; July, S3Ac; old. 84Ac; Sept,
soc; old, @81Ac. Corn-April,
1890; May, 1870; July, 4SB @48Ac;
Sept. 4SAc; Dec, 44c. Oats-May.
39% @39kc; July, 37Ac; Sept. 3lBc.
Pork-May, 512.17h; July, $12.47h@
1880; Sept, $3.50. Flax-Cash,
Northwestern, S1.06k; Southwestern,
'$1.O0: May, $1.00. Butter-Creameries,
14@23c; diaries, 13@21c. Eggs-16A
@16Mc. Poultry - Turkeys, 12c;
chickens, Ice.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
uRosscuP TALKS TO IoWANe
Discourses on Liberty and Corpora
lions at Des Moines.

HONS at DeS WoIneS.
Des Mcines, Ia, April 2S.-Before
an audience composed of the represen-
tatiye men Of the state of iowa, United
States Circuit Court Judge Peter S.
Grosscup delivered al address let
night before the Grant club on "Libe t.
and Corporations" The occasion was
the celebration of Grants birthday an
niversary, which has come by custom
to be the big Iowa oratorical sweep
stakes. Hon. Frederick G. Windley of
Milwaukee and Nathan e. Kendall OF
Abba were the other speakers.
An elaborate banquet preceded the
addresses. Judge Grosscup's c0ntral
thought was that corporations should
be nationalized SO as to admit citizens
to ownership.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
Two Too NTnny.

"Triplets," said wee Willie Wrinkle
top, with a very knowing air, always
come to poor families It's when God
sends them a whole line Of samples to
pick from and they hasn't enough mon
ey to pay the expressman to take two
Of 'em back."-Lippincott's Magazine.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
HE VOTED FOR REED sMooT.
? a Utah Club Woman Will Not Be
Allowed to Speak in St. Louis.

! Salt Lake, April 2S.--Mrs. Marcy
Coulter of Ogden, a prominent club
conan, will not be allowed to make
u address at the biennial convention
L the National Federation of Wo-
lens clubs at st. Louis, on May 81, it
Il believed, because she voted for
moot, while a member of the last
legislature.
lowing to objection of the club wo.
Fen of Utah, based on Mrs. Coulter's
Export of Smoot, requests that Mrs.
Epulter be invited to speak have been
|bfused. Mrs. Coulter is a Gentle.
The Billings gazette. [volume] (Billings, Mont.) 1896-1919, 1904-04-29
St. Paul Union Stock Yards.

St. Paul. April 27.-Cattle-Good to
choice steers. S4.OO@5.00; common to
fair, s3.2603.85; cows and heifers,
s2.35@5.5O; veals. s2.5o@325. Hogs
S4.5O@4.sO. Sheep-Good to choice
yearling wethers, $4.75@5.15; heavy,
$4.60@5.O0: good to choice lambs,
$5.1O@5.65; fair to good, S$4.75@5.00.