The Indianapolis journal., 1903-01-25

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sand for you. You telephone me at o'clock
and / will let you know about it,. Then
we left. At 3 o'clock telephoned.'
"You went to see Mr. Lessler. did your
Mr.. Lessler was not in town"
"You telephoned at O'Clock, did your"
81 teephoned and was told that will be
all right
CONVERSATION BY PHONE.
do you know who was at the other end
of the telephone?"
NO, sir
"You could not tell by the voice?''
NO sir
"What occurred on the telephone?"
81 asked for Mr.. Quigg. and 1 presume
was connected
"Very well. What occurred?"
"The gentleman on the other end said,
All right l said, This is Doblin,' and the
man replied, That will be all right
Ibid you make any special reference to
o. clock or know what it was?'
'T just said. This is Doblin.' 1 said, rs
of the telephone said, Yes 'Hellol This
is Doblin.' And l heard That will be all
right. +"
That's ALL"
when did you see Mr.. Lessler?"
''The following day.
do you know what day of the week it
WASP?
Saturday morning"
What occurred when you saw Mr. Less
ler?"
his mail and asked him whether the tor
pedo submarine boat business was going to
come up again. He said il might. / said,
Il was sent for yesterday He said, BY
whom? BY Mr.. Quigs.' 1 told him just
What did you tell him9 State just what
you told him.
"HUMPH, HUMPH."
IL told him, There will be, 5000 i'm this
il YOU can see your way clear TO be friend
ly to it, He kind of said, 'Humph. humph
and laughed He threw his papers down
and there was no more to it, He said
There is nothing in that He said, Quit
l tried to talk and he said. Quit
And you quit?'
II quit; that is ALL"
did you communicate this to Mr..
Quigg?'
"ies sir"
Where did you see him?''
AT 100 Broadway"
"When?"
Il think it was the same afternoon
what did you say TO him?'
Il told him Mr. Lessler would not-it
can't be done. . think that was the Ian
guage used-Tt can't be done +"
mat cOuiu not De done.
The mission 4 was after, trying to get
MIR. Le5sler.
Answering Representative Roberts. Mr..
Dobin said that Mr.. McCullagh had never
asked him to see Mr.. Lessier in regard to
submarine boats. Replying TO Mr.. Wheeler.
he said he could not INK definitely the date
OF his interview with Mr.. Lesser. In ex-
planning why he made a statement before
the subcommittee he said he supposed he
was obliged TO tell his story and believed
what he said was to be held in confidence
by the committee. He said he understood
one OF the members 10 have stated at that
time that he must tell what he knew and
added: You might as we'll have pulled a
gun and said: Hands up 4"
Attorney Delaney Nicoll cross-examined
Mr.. Dobin, carrying him over his testi-
mony. and with particular reference TO the
conversation he testified to having oc-
CURED with Mr.. Quigg. Mr.. Nicoll directed
inquiries TO the witness as TO whether he
knew he was doing an unla act in sub
hitting the proposition 10 MIR. Lessler.
| which he testified he did Mr.. Dobiin said
he had not read the law on the subject. and
in answering as to whether he thought he
was doing friendly act he said he only
wanted one friend TO help another.
MCULLAGH'S TESTIMONY.
John r. McCuIlagh. state superintendent
of elections in New York. was the next wit
ness. He testified that the first time he
met Mr.. Lessler was i'm Chicago after the
| iatters election. He had read a deposition
| OF Henry ID. Hertz. an architect who de-
| posed that he was not interested in politics,
| but was believer in the Holland boat.
In conversation with Mr.. Rice. the presi-
dent of the Holland Boat Company. for
whom Hertz was building house and
| knew of his friendship for McCullagh.
Ar. Rice suggested that Hertz see Mc-