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The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1903-08-03
MiscELLANEoUs.

Or. w. s. Mott-Wlll hereafter be
found In the Brey block, 275h Com
mercial street, over oregon Shoe
Co. ONCE telephone. 2931; resi-
dence phone, 2751. once hours 8
70 ~, and 2 to 8.
/ Have Just Purehased-The Miller
stock of new and secondhand goods
at 2l0 Commercial street. Will give
you good treatment and desire your
patronage. Second hand goods
bought and sold. Also a nice stock
OF new goods on hand. ID. r.. Jer.
man. 7,2l-tf
Screen Door-New and secondhand.
From 75c 10 $l.35. j. N. Schants'
secondhand store, 107 Court Strete,
Salem. Oregon. 6.5.tf
Screen Doors-Sl.l5 and upward, in.
cluding hardware, screen windows,
Wire Cloth. Lawn and Field Fenc.
ing and Shingles-all at lowest
prices. WALTER MORLEY,
60 Court ST.. Salem. Or.
McReynolds Brothersl-Proprietors Of
Twelfth-street store. Groceries and
feed. 400 State street, Phone 262t
7-1-tf
Unique Cleaning Rooms-shaw a
Johnson, the cleaners. are now 10
Gated at 209 Commercial street
They do a general pressing and re
pairing business. Specialties: Skirts,
silk waists, kid gloves. gents cloth.
ing. etc. Phone 2614. b-2s-1yr.
You will always find the choicest
meats at the lowest prices at Ed.
wards a Luscher's, 406 and 40
State street. Phone orders given
special attention
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1903-08-03

Wanted.~Eight men to work on
bridge. Apply G. f. Royal. s-1-3te
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1903-08-03
LOST AND FOUND.

Wanted.-Young man. Geo. f. Rodg.
ers & Co. 7-30-3t
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1903-08-03

Screen Door-New and secondhand.
From 75c 10 $l.35. ]. N. Schants'
secondhand store, 107 Court strete.
Salem. Oregon. 6.b.tf
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1903-08-03
CLASSIFIED ADS

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'issS %Cas .''' 81 Ss' SVss isis
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

The U, q, dispensatory says: "opi-
um lessons the peristaiio motion OF the
bowels. It's local effect (when applied
to the lower bowel) Is the same ~ lts
general operation, conium pARAi4fz'
ES the motor nerves; aeonite reduces
muscular strength: belladona produces
PARALYTIc symptoms; hyoseyamna
and stramonium are same as bellado-
ma. THEY DO NOT EXERCISE ANY
CURATIVE INFLUENCES" Every
pile medicine prescribed or ON the
market contains some OF the above pois
N via, For sale by CONN DRUG co.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

Office Constructing Quartermaster,
Astoria, Or, July IS, 1903:-Sealed pro-
posals, in triplicate, will be received
at this office until 10 o'clock A. NJ,
August 8, 1903, for the construction,
plumbing, heating and electric wiring
of one field officers and one double set
Of lieutenants quarters at Fort Stew
ems, Or. United States reserves the
right to reject any or all proposals In
formation and specifications furnished
on application. Envelopes should be
marked Proposals for construction
and addressed to Captain Goodale,
Quartermaster
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
A WORD To PUBLIC SER
WANTS,

NEWSPAPERS, especially daily
newspapers, are published for pur-
nose. to print the news There is a wide
chasm separating actual news and
that which reads almost as interest
Ingly as dictionary. The editor Is
the Judge of news. and public servants,
men who are engaged in the employ
Of the public, have no right to con-
slider themselves competent judges of
what will interest the public that en-
anates from their particular offices
The reporter is sent out on his detail
each day to gather the news. and when
It Is brought into the office it goes
through the hands of the editor, who
BY experience knows its value and
places it in the paper with reference to
space and position accordingly. The
public archives should be accessible to
the public at all times and once doc
ument, report or person passes
through the public records, be it mere
ly the record of an instrument filed, a
marriage license, the arrest of prom
inent citizen, an utterance made at a
public meeting or contemplated inn
provement, in short, no matter what
the nature of the incident may be, it is
no longer private transaction and it
then becomes the duty of the public
servant through whose hands it passes
should he be requested to do so,
TO give it to the press. Such public ser
want by doing so does his duty and
nothing more. He is not placing the
reporter under any obligations to him;
reporters and editors should never feel
under obligations to any public SER
want, neither should they place the
public servant under obligations TO
them. There is a disposition among
certain. public officials in Astoria and
CIatsop county to Suppress what news
they deem unfit for publication, Civ
ing to the press the remainder. The ed
itor must be the judge of the news;
his discretion must rule in the matter;
he must not be hampered by public
officials presuming to pass on the
relevancy and competency of such |
news. The press would lose its free
dom were such a condition to exist, !
We expect to have more to say on the !
subject of the suppression of news by |
public officials of Astoria and Clatsop !
county at later date.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

pleasure and an honor TO be asked 10
do something for such IAN eminent
celebrity" and then added: But II
YOU will give me a few big words in
payment shall be mighty grateful. "
Certainly" replied the secretary,
but what do you want big words
for?" Mr.. Secretary" replied the
darky, with vast dignity, Il am one
Of the most principal speakers at my
debating club, and we have hot times
over politics and religion, and l wants
those big words to use when some
calamitous occasion predominates."
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

CONTRACTORS who are working
on street Improvements would do well
in the future to see that the streets are
not left Uttered with lumber at
night. or that some danger signal be
displayed wherever it is necessary to
leave planking piled high on the side
walks or roadways. Several of the
streets undergoing improvement are a
menace to life and limb. and unless
some safeguard against accidents is
provided the city will be involved in
litigation for the recovery of damages
for injuries sustained by people fall
ing over the Instructions. And the lit
ignation won't turn out like the efforts
Of the wiley Mr.. Book. either.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

SAVED FROM \ TERRIBLE DEATH
The family OF Mrs, NJ. l.. Bohhitt Of
Bargeton, Tenn, saw her dying and
We're powerless 10 save her, The most
skillful physicians and every remedy
used failed, while consumption was
slowly but surely taking her life, In
this terrible hour DR., Kings new dis
covery for consumption turned despair
into joy, The first bottle brought inn
mediate relief and its continued use
completely cured here, It's the most
certain cure in the world for alN throat
and lung troubles, Guaranteed bot
ties 50 cents and N,OO, Trial bottles
free at Chas, Rogers drug store.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

onice OF c. @. NJ, Vancouver Bar
racks, Wash, July 10, 1908. Sealed pro-
posols, in tripllcate, will be received
here until II O'clock. 4. NJ. August 10.
1sOS for furnishing forage and bedding
NJ posts In this department for year
ending June 80. 1904. Information fur
nished here or by quarterinasters at
posts, U, $. reserves the right to re-
iect or accept any or all proposals or
any part thereof. Envelopes contain.
ing proposals should be marked,
Proposals for Forage and Bedding at
-" and addressed to undersigned,
f, II. HATHAWAY. c, Q. NJ.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

KING Edward is touring Paddy's
land accompanied by his queen and the
large hearted Irishmen have forgotten
for the time being their woes and
are giving the jovial monarch d div
il of time, sure. They pity OF is that
EdT ard cannot remain with them for
ever, as his presence seems to have
such good influence on them.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

SPEAKING of streets brings to mind
the general condition Of our streets at
the present time. They are a dis
grace to the community that is hon
ored ty Old Sol as generously as As
toria has been honored of late Some
efforts should be taken to subject them
TO sluicing process TO get rid of the
debris that has accumulated. Why
not request the hose team TO get busy?
The streets will have to be cleaned
before regatta week, and We might as
well begin practicing now.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
SPECIAL ROUND TRIP RATES

Between June 4th and August 26th.
the Illinois Central will sell round trip
tickets from Oregon and Washington
points to Chicago Cairo. Memphis, and
New Orleans at Greatly reduced rates.
Tickets good for three months. Going
limit 10 days. Returning limit 10 days
after starting west. Stop over privI-
llges either way. west OF the Missouri
river. Sale dates are arranged TO be
convenient for delegates to conventions
OF National Educational association at
Boston; Elks at Baltimore; woodmen
at Indianapolis; Eagles at New York;
ShrIners at Saratoga; knights of Pyth.
las at Louisville and Commercial Trav-
elers at Indianapolis. You can take
your choice of 16 different routes.
Write US. We will cheerfully give you
any detailed Information you want. y.
H.TRUMBULL, Commercial agent, l42
Third street, Portland Ore.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

THE weekly crop bulletin sent out
by the department Of agriculture sum-
nlarizes conditions as was predicted IN
The Morning Astorian recently. Grain
yields will show a still greater reduc-
tion than former estimates. Minor
crops, such as corn, potatoes, onions,
sugar beets, and gardens are doing
nicely. Fruit also continues promising
and a large crop of pears and prunes
is almost a certainty. The reports
from Clatsop county shows that dur
ing the first part Of last week good
haying weather was enjoyed, and cut
ting was general. The last of the
week was cloudy, with mist in the
mornings. Much hay was hused, but
not so much as would have been with
more sunshine.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
DOMESTIC TROUBLES.

1t IL exceptional 10 ind u family
where there are no domestic troubles
orcasionly, but these can be lessened by
having nr. Kings New tAfe pills
around, Much trouble they save by
their great work In stomach and liver
troubles. They not only relieve you
hut cure you. s5 cents at Charles Rog.
er's drug store.
To tloughttul pupils mistakes are
great teachers.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
woNpgaFuL NERVE.

Is displayed by many q man during
pains OF accidental cuts, wounds. Bruis
es burns scalds. sore feet or stlft
Joints, But there ts no need for Il,
Rucklin's Arnica Salve will kill tho
pain and cure the trouble, tts the
the best salve on earth for piles, too,
- cents ut Charles Rogers, druggist,
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
A Model Kitchen
Every Home Can Have One at Very
Small Cost.

You would be astonished If told the
prices that Foard G. Stokes Co., is sell
ling its famous cooking stoves and
utensils at. A better assortment can
not be found in any store in the stpte.
We supply everything from a dust pan
to a range at prices that will fit any
pocketbook. 1t is economy to have
your kitchen modern. Saves labor, ex-
penses ana your health. Let US show
you what we can do to remodel your
home. We want at least chance to
quote you our prices.
FOARD &STOKES co.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
A VERY CLOSE CALL. =

IT stuck to my engine though every
iont ached, and every nerve was rack
ed with PAIN" writes G. w. Bellamy,
Il locomotive fireman, Of Burlington,
Iowa. II was weak and pale, without
any appetite and all run down. AS
was about to give up l got bottle of
Electric Bitters, and after taking it
I felt as we'll as / ever did in my life."
Weak, sickly, run down people always
gain new life, strength and ylgor from
their use. Try them. Satisfaction
guaranteed by Charles Rogers. Price
30 cents.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
HUMANITY OUTRAGED

ona NXCEpT f-RtI-sA PILE CURE.
"E.Ru.SA doubtless In tho only pile
medicine on the market which does not
contain narcotic poisons or mercury
ECONOMICAL DRUG CO.. Chicago,
III. Per C. IL. Mcconnell. president,
I'VE guarantee no mercury or opiates
In E.Ru-sA pile cure, ,"--woodard
Clarke 4 Co, Portland. Or.
E.Ru.sA cures piles, or $50 paid,
Worst cases cured with one box, E-ru.
IA contains no mercury. no opiatea. All
reliable up.to.date druggists seil E.ru-
EAGLE puRd CO., cHAs ROGERS.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
NORTH COAST LIMITED.

Is only run by the Northern Pacific
between Portland and Minneapolis and
st. Paul. through Tacoma, Seattle,
Spokane, Missoula, Butte, Livingston,
Billings, Bismark and Fargo. Eight
of these trains are on the run daily
four east and four west. Each Ia a
solid vestibuled train, carrying stand
ard Pullman tourist sleepers, dining
car, day coaches, mail, express and
baggage car and the elegant observa-
tion car. Each train Is brilliantly
lighted with over 800 lights and the
beauty of 1t all is you can travel Just
as cheaply on this train as on any
other. All representatives will be
glad to give you additional informa-
tion. A. D. Charlton, Assistant Gen.
eral PASSENGER Agent. 266 Morrison st,
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

OUR French friends have been cele-
brating the fall of the Bastlle with
characteristic enthusiasm The des-
truction of that odious prison meant
the downfall of the old tyranny. And
all Gaul, not now divided into three
IIIrts, has good reason for rejoicing
over the disappearance Of that nonu-
ment Of oppression.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

EVERY business man in Astoria is
urged TO identify himself with the
Chamber of Commerce, Push" club
and any other movement that has for
its object the building up of the city
as manufacturing, commercial and
industrial center. The distinction of
being the second largest city in the
state belongs to Astoria and it be-
hooves all to get in and drill for an
even larger city.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

One of natures remedies; cannot
harm the weakest constitution; never
fails to cure summer complaints Of
young or old. d. Fowler's Extract of
Strawberry.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

SECRETARY Shaw pleased at
service rendered him by colored man
offered him some money. The man re-
fused 1t saying that it had been a
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

For forty years DR.. Fowler's Extract
of Wild Strawberry has been curing
summer complaint, dysentery, dlar-
rhoea. bloody flux. pain In the stomach.
and II has never yet failed to do every
thing claimed for Il.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

ltohnes Of the skin. horrible plague
Most everybody afflicted In one way or
another, Only one safe, never failing
cure. Doan.s Ointment. At any drug
store, so sents.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

Il suffered for months from sore
throat. Electric Oil cured me in twen-
ty-four hours" NJ. S. Gist Hawes-
vile, KY.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
NORTHERN PACIFIC
Time Gard 0i Train

PORTLAND
Leaves Arrives
Puget Sound Llmited.7:2 a m 6:45 r III
hdnsas City-St. Louis
Special ...........l:10 a m 6:45 p n
North Coast Limited $3.50 p m 700 q m
Tacoma and Seattle Night
Express =. ........11:45 pm 3:05 , n
Take Puget Sound Limited or North
Coast Limited for Gray's Harbor points
Take Puget Sound Limited for Olym-
pia direct.
Take Puget Sound Limited or Kan
sas City-St Louis Special for points
on South Bend branch.
Double daily train service on Gray's
Harbor branch.
Four trains daily between Portland,
Tacoma and Seattle.
Good goods at the right price. John
son Bros.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
'Dally except Saturday.

'Daily except Saturday.
saturday only.
All trains make close connections al
Goble with all Northern Pacific trains
10 and from the East and Sound points
]. c, Mayo,
Gen'l Freight and Pass. Agent,
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

Builds up the system. puts pure rich
blood into the veins, makes men and
women strong and healthy. Rurdock
Blood Ritters,
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
The Wisconsin Central Line

and you will make direct Ccnhections
at st. Paul for Chicago, Milwaukee and
all points East.
For any further information call on
any ticket agent or correspond with
JAS. c. POND, Gen. Pass. Ag't.
or JAS A. CLOCK. Milwaukee. Wis.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23

Subscribe for the Semi Weekly AS
torian, s1OO year.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
Some Inter-
estln9 Facts

When people are conte nplatlng a
trip, whether on business or pleasure,
they naturally want the best sery','e
obtainable as far as speed, comfort and
safety is concerned. Employees OF the
WISCONSIN CENTRAL LINES are
paid to serve the public and our trains
are operated SO as TO make close con-
nections with diverging lines at all
junction points.
Pullman Palace Sleeping and Chair
Cars on through trains.
Dining car service unexcalled, Meals
served a la carte.
In order to obtain the first class SER
vice, ask the ticket agent to sell you
q ticket over.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
ASTORIA AND COLUMBIA
RIVER RAILROAD.

LEAVE PORTLAND ARRIVE
500 am, Portland Uuion De- 10 am
200 pm. pot for Astoria and $40 pm.
1880 pm. way points.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
l1i''
ASTORIA

ASTORIA
t.45 am, For Portland and 80 am.
6;1op,m, way points 1880 pm.
1850 pm.
The morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1899-1930, 1903-07-23
SEASIDE DIVISION

s.l5 am. Astoria for War 1;t0 am.
II so am. renton. Fiavel. TT, 1880 am.
1875 am, Stevens. Hammond 400 pm.
$50 pm, Seaside. $50 pm.
t5:55 pm.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
SAYS ARAB
WAS IN DISTRESS

The steamer Arab a small vessel I'M
der Danish register, and belonging to
st. Thomas, Danish West Indies, arriv-
ed in port early yesterday morning and
was berthed at the Railway wharf,
where she will take in fuel oil for her
burners. The Arab is engaged in the
China trade, and on her present voy-
age is carrying a big consignment of
flour to China. Although it has been
known for some time that the vessel
would call here to take fuel oil for her
bunkers, her captain stated to the GUS
toms boarding officers on arrival here
that he came in Gin distress and that
it was not his intention to call here
when he left San Francisco.
Vessels arriving here in distress to
get fuel or water can secure such and
leave within certain number of hours,
escaping port duties. Had the Arab
cleared from San Francisco for Honolu-
lu and thence for China she would have
had to pay such duties.
The Arab will sail for HOngkong early
today.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
PASSENGERS.
Arrived,


Per S. S. Ventura, Jan. 10. from the
Colonies.-Geo. KunkIe, Miss Dixie
Ward. John Charles and VIM. ]. Morris.
Departed.
Per stmr. Kinau, January 12. for HiIo
Captain Berger and % band bows. J.
A M. Johnson, Ii Cheung. Rev. ]. Ke-
alaula, Mrs. ]. Kekipi, Mrs. J. Arioli.
Mrs. b. Andrew. Rev. J. o. Makekau.
j. A. Magoon, Mrs. j. Kealaula, J. W.
SpringstOn, Rev. J. Kekipi. Mrs. J. r.
Brown. c. A. Brown and wife, E. Horn.
{. N Speird. Mrs. Alapai, W. B. Gelatt.
Miss Payne. Miss Keliiaa, Marston
Campbell, w. F. Drake. Miss Mary Ca
mario. Mrs. F. NJ. Wakefield, Mr.. Wal
ker. c. ]. Day; for the volcano-Mrs.
Lyon, Mrs. Durkee. T. McEwen: for
Mahukona-F. L. Stanley: for Maalaea
C II. Dickey: for Laupahoehoe-Miss
S. j. Willcock.
Per stmr. Mauna Loa. January 13,
for Lahaina, MaaIaea. Kona and Kau-
Henry r. Cooper, C. All Nee. A. f.
Under. Leu Tow, Sam Nowlein and
party. 6. Nagasawa. c. H. Dunn. C. A.
Chong. r. c. Searle. D. NJ. Collins. Al
fred Cooper, W. Muller, A. c. I.ovekin.
Mrs. Kooloa. W. Conway and wife.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
Shipping Note.

The Ventura took away large ship
ment of sugar last night.
Among the arrivals by the Gaelic were
102 immigrants from Korea.
The expected strike of seamen in the
Colonies did not materialize, as the men
agreed to a reduction of wages.
The Gaelic came into port early yes
terday morning, discharged her passen-
gers and freight and left for San Fran
cisco at $50 o'clock last evening.
Tribal wars are now very frequent in
the South Sea islands. according to
Ventura advices. and at Pentecost zen
Kanakas were killed in a big battle re-
Gently.
Officers of the Gaelic say that the
battleship Oregon was damaged to the
extent of $50 900 in the typhoon she en-
countered on her way from Honolulu to
Yokohama.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
Hard Work Finding Fapnings.

The Ventura arrived from the Colo
MES yesterday morning Barring some
trouble had in picking up Tanning Is
land, the voyage of the Ventura was
uneventful. The difficulty in finding
Tanning Island was due to a strong
EasterIy current that had set in near
rough gales, the worst in years, which
had been experienced there.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
DEPARTED FROM HONOLULU.

Tuesday, Jan. IS.
s. S. Ventura. Hayward, for San
Francisco, at p. M
S. S. Gaelic, Finch, for San Fran
cisco, at $50 p. m.
Stmr. Kinau, Freeman, for Hilo and
way ports, at noon.
Stmr. Mauna Loa. Simerson, for
Maui, kona and Kau ports, at noon.
Stmr. w. G.. Hall. s. Thompson. for
Kauai ports. at p. m.
Stmr. Claudine. Parker, for Maui
ports, at p. m.
Stmr. Maui, Bennett, for Mahukona,
Ookala, Laupahoehoe and Papaaloa, at
p. m.
Stmr. Noeau, Petersen. for Lahaina.
KaanapaH, Honokaa and Kukuihaele.
at p. m
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-01-14
TIDES. SUN AND MooN.

Full moon 18th 347 a. m.
Times OF the tide are taken from the
United States Coast and Gsodeic Sur
vey tables.
The tides at Kahului and Hilo occur
about one hour earlier than at Honolulu
Hawaiian standard time is 10 hours 20
minutes slower than Greenwich time, be-
ing that of the meridian of 1s7 degrees 30
minutes. The time whistle blows at 1:S3
p. M, which is the same as Greenwich, Q
hours minutes. Sun and moon are for
local time for the whole group.