Arizona republican., 1903-06-03
To Charges Made by the
 Fired TullOCh
ASTOTHE WOMAN WINANS
All That the Former First Assistant Postmaster General Knew Of Her Was that She Was
 Nuisance.

Washington, D. C.. June 2.-Postmas- ter General Payne today made public o letter Of former First Assistant Post master General Perry s. Heath in reply to charges made by s. w. Tulloch of this city, formerly cashier of Washing ton city postoffice.
 The letter in part says:
 II thank you for your courteous let ters calling my attention to certain as sertions of one s. w. Tulloch, ex-cash- fer of the Washington postoffice. and also the statement of Mrs. Winans, for merly of Ohio, who is quoted as saying that she was carried upon the roll O. the posto1ce with the und-rstanding that she was not to render service to the government.
 If Mrs. Winans did not render ser vices equivalent to the compensation she received her superior officers were deceived. l did not know the woman when she was appointed and had no personal interest in her. Her name was among a large number always on my desk. and I recall that she was well recommended for the position. l did not and could not attempt to personal W ascertain whether persons appointed To positions in postoffices rendered ser vices satisfactorily. l do remember that this woman became nuisance about the pOstoffice department ana that I refused to see her. She was re- ported to me by my chief clerk as being persistent in her demands for promo ton or more desirable work.
 By the same token, upon the same line of comment employed by Tulloeh nearly if not quite all of the 'transac- tions of the executive department in Washington could be called into ques- ton and improper motives could be as- signed. Necessarily I could not follow the detail work of the postoffice clerks I was compelled to leave it to subOrdin- ates and rely on pOstmasters. The first intimation that there was honorable roll" upon which persons were placed for political or personal or other req sons than good services, is a pure in vention It, is a lie out of whole cloth, as are most of the imputations of Tul- loch.
 II made a visit to Porto Rico when the Spanish form of postal service was taken over and placed under our sys- fem. I did not seek the trip and never made a more disagreeable one or ore where I rendered better service or made more sacrifices. For every dollar ex- pended vouchers were rendered and ac- counting made.
 II made another trip to the Pacific slope, in connection with conditions eX- . isting in the postoffices at Portland, Ia coma and Seattle, incident to the open ing of Alaskan mails and local conges- tions, for which strict accounting was made. Possib Tulloch did not deem these trips necessary, but I doubt if he had the slightest conception for what they were made or what was done upon them.
 There are two personal references to me in the Tulloch assertions that l de- sire to mention briefly and the others ! will pass over as unworthy or mention or for reply from those who have had later access to the official records, for these incidents occurred four or five years ago.
 "Complaints were made to me by clerks in the postoffice department cr to the auditor for the treasury that an empIoye of the latter, named Gilmer, frequently entered their rooms and in surly, offensive and peTomptory manner demanded records and carried them away without leaving any receipt, or simply helped himself and when re- ceipt was requested snubbed the clerk making the request.
 ''I was asked by our clerk to request and did request of the treasury officials that Gilmer be instructed to act Ike a gentleman and to protect clerks in the postoffice department by leaving re- ceipts for all records taken by him from the department. What purpose Gilmer had in carrying these records from the department ] do not pretend to say. This incident had no connection with