The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-09-30
Admits the Relations Between the
Defendant and Late Editor of the
State Were Not Pleasant.
TESTIMONY OF PHYSICIANS
EFFORT WILL BE MADE TO INTRO
DUCE DYING STATEMENT.
Counsel for Defense Objects to All
Testimony Relating to the Car
rying of Weapons.

LEXINGTON, S. c., Sept. 29.-Good speed
was made to-day in the trial here of former
Lieut.. Gov. James H. Tfllman, who is
charged with the murder of N. G. Gonzales,
editor of the State. A large number of
witnesses were examined to-day. The crowd
of spectators was not as large as yesterday
Mrs. ]. H. Tillman and the defendants
mother occupied seats within the railing
throughout the day.
One line of examination pursued to-day
by the State was with a view to laying the
foundation for the introduction of dying
declarations. Four of the physicians who
participated in the operation on Mr.. Con-
Zales after he was shot were on the stand
to-day-Drs. Guerry, Pope, Taylor and
Griffith, all of Columbia. Much of the
testimony of the physicians was technical.
Ambrose E. Gonzales, publisher of the
State and brother of N. G. Gonzales, was
called to the stand when the solicitor Of
fered in the evidence the files of the State
for the year 1902, the purpose, as announced
by the counsel, to introduce the editorials
in the State newspaper, of which n. G.
Gonzales was editor from July l. 1902 to
Dec. 81, 1902. The editorials in question are
in relation to James H. Tillman Reading
of the editorials was postponed so that
counsel for the defense might read them
first.
On cross-examnation Mr. Gonzales was
asked by counsel for the defense: s'The
relations between your brother and Mr.
I1liman nave not been pleasant for some
years have they?"
He replied: ''They have not been please
ant
WROTE ALL HE SAID.
Mr. Gonzales was asked on further cross
examination by the defense if he had not
heard his brother express himself in de-
nunciatory language in relation to Mr.. Till
man, to which the witness replied: II
cannot say 1 ever heard him use such Ian
guage in the office 1 think everything he
said, not everything he knew or believed.
but everything he said to his relatives or
friends, he said in the State newspaper
SO that all could know"
In reply to further questions Mr. Con-
zales said he could not say that he knew
his brother to have entertained bitter feel
ings toward j. II. Tillman. nor could he
say that he knew his brothers feelings
toward the defendant to have been hostile.
His brother had been, he said in control
of the editorials and his brother wrote
them without consultation.
w .B. Cause, member of the Legislature
heard Mr.. Tillman when he met him in
Columbia during the last session of the
Legislature. say Anything about Mr. Con
Zaless editorials, TO which witness replied
that he met Colonel Tillman on the street
and when some one asked Colonel Tillma N
where he was stopping, he replied: II don't
know that / am stopping anywhere I
stuck those editorials of the State i'm nv
pocket and told my wife l might stop at
the pen'
On croSs-examination the witness said he
did not take the remark seriously. 1t de-
veloped during the examination of Dr. Pope
who followed DR.. Guerry on the stand that
the State was laying the foundation for
the introduction of dying statements made
by Mr.. Gonzales Under objection the
statement by DR.. Pope that he heard Mr.
Gonzales say Il am killed. was admitted
but the court said later that. when ruling
on other questions. he would let IL stand
or instruct the jury to disregard IL.
The defense objected to all the testimony
relating to the carrying of pistol by the
defendant prior to the shooting. unless il
could be shown that there was a con-
nection between the carrying at that time
and the shooting. The court admitted the
testimony with the provisions that IL Ii
was not developed that IL was competent
the jury would be instructed to disregard il.
SAW PISTOL IN TILLMAN'S POCKET.
DR. s. T. b. Lancaster. member of the
Legislature from Spartanburg. testified
that he saw a pistol In Mr.. Tillman's
pocket on the day previous to the shooting.
Two boys. c. v. Zimmerman and Francis
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