Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1903-10-22

uon treaty between Great Britain and
France. and be..:ves that the time has
come for the revival of the agitation for
such treaty between this country and
Great Britain. He believes that whereas
the treaty of 1897 failed OF ratification by
the United States Senate, a treaty at this
time would receive favorable consideration.
Mr.. Barclay was seen by a Star reporter
today and when asked why he thought such
q treaty would receive favorable considera-
ton at this time, replied:
Why Favorable Consideration.
For two reasons One is the recent rati-
fication of the Anglo-French treaty of arbi-
tration and the other is the fact that the
Alaska boundary matter has shown that
the system of conciliation is quite worka-
BILE.
by a system of conciliation l mean the
system adopted for matters of grave ma
uonal Importance by the Anglo American
treaty, better known as the Olney-Paunce
fote treaty, referring such matters to arbi-
traitors chosen from the two parties con-
cerned only; that is to say, without a for
eign umpire or arbitrator at all This is
the system adopted in the Alaskan affair
by the suggestion of the American govern
ment. and it shows they had confidence in
the spirit and justice which would animate
tribunal so composed. Their confidence
been favorable to themselves.
In this connection perhaps it would be
interesting to state that Lord Alverstone
the lord chief justice of England, who gave
his vote in favor of the United States, was
largely instrumental in formulating the
draft of the Anglo-American treaty in 1897
and he has been from first to last the
warmest supporter of the Auglo-French
treaty on the same lines
The Ango-Frenchs Treaty.
Mr. Barclay was asked what remains to
be done before the Anglo French treaty be-
comes operative. p.
THE Ango-French treaty he replied,
has been signed on behalf of the two gov
ernments. AS regard England it will need
the royal ratification, and as regards
France parliamentary ratification. You
may take it for granted that the royal
ratification has already been given, as the
king has taken a very active personal in
terest in the consolidation OF the good re-
lationS between France and Great Britain
"As regards France, NJ. DelcaSSe has
considered it prudent to submit for ratiitca-
ton in the first instance "a treaty when
will provoke in all probability little or
much criticism as to its insufficlency. lie
was afraid of agreeing to any treaty which
might possibly provoke criticism on the
ground of its going too far. Assuming
that the comments on the treaty Will take
the form that the French government evil
IDENTITY expects we may count upon treaty
going a great deal farther at an early
date.
Not So Comprehensive as Treaty of '97.
rs the French treaty as comprehensive
as was the proposed treaty between the
United States and Great Britain in 1872
Mr. Barclay was asked.
NO he replied. at is far from con-
tanning anything like the powers for meet
ing all emergencies that were provided in
the treaty OF 1897, which was a compre-
hersive document dealing with every pos
s.ble case that might arise between the
two countries. The Anglo-French treaty
on the other hand excludes vital interests
of national honor and refers all the other
matters which it sums up as of judicial
character to The Hague tribunal, but with
a further proviso that in every case spe-
cial agreement should be made determining
the conditions of the reference
These terms might be considered as the
minimum of a treaty of arbitration. But, as
| have said before, this is a calculated po-
litical Strategem to get an entering wedge,
and the fact that 1t will be Impossible for
the two countries to deal with any difficulty
without considering whether it is of ju-
dicial character not will enable the gov
ernments to gain the necessary time winch
is so precious when an emergency arises.
Have you any means of Judging how the
revival of the suggestion for this treaty be-
tween Great Britain and the United States
will be received here? he was asked.
Thinks Revival Will Be Satisfactorily
Received.
"At New York l had an opportunity of
comforting with many eminent men OF
business. and without exception l gathered
that on their part a revival of the move
ment would be heralded with great salts
faction. Everybody l spoke to. had vivid
recollection of the financial results of the
famous Venezuela dispatch of Mr.. Olney.
and everybody. showed a disposition to do
their level best to get some system adopted
to prevent a recurrence of such a disaster.
But it Is in this city that have without
exception received the warnlest encourage
ment. Everybody of Importance here
agrees that as in the case of the Anglo
French movement We must not push for
ward with too great speed but gradually
get representative bodies Of the country to
show their approval and testify to the gen.
eral desire of the country to consolidate
the relations with Great Britain in some
permanent form. l mean of course. by
representatives bodies, the boards Of trade,
chambers of commerce, labor organizations,
state legislatures and municipal councils,
etc"
What. in your judgment, was the cause
for the defeat of the arbitration treaty OF
1S97?''
Il do not think you can lsay that there
was any feeling that the treaty of 1897
went too far" he replied There were
forty-two votes in it's favor and twenty
six against 1t in the United States Senate.
1niS HadJoriey VI sixteen, i mink, conclu-
sively answers the suggestion that the
treaty was considered as going too far
What do think is that it would have been
advisable to have allowed little more
time to lapse before taking the vote. In
fact considered that there was little un-
due haste.'
How to Promote Such Revival.
Asked how he proposed to promote re-
vival of the agitation for an arbitration
treaty Mr.. Barclay said:
First Of all consider that the assistance
OF the press is the most essential factor in
the movement We could never have car
ried through the Anglo-French reconcilia-
ton agitation with such success had 1t not
0oen FOR the strenuous support Of the