The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1903-02-21


State.
The substitute bin, he declared, did all
that the London bill did. except that the
substitute left the people TO oec'ue'
the people want 1t they can get IN the
substitute all that is given by the Lon
don bill. 1t seems that the other slde
is lodging. for at one time II says the
majority OF the people want IT, ana AT
another that they are afraid 10 leaVe IL
to the vote Of the people.
Answering the statement OF the tTIehdS
of the London bill that in the counties
where 1t was not needed ii would not
pass, he said that if the people there dld
not want it they should not have 1t forced
upon them. 1t would produce a condl-
ton that would bring a contempt for tenn
perance. which it would take years to
overcome.
Quoting men who considered the Lon
don bin as unwise, he named among
these DR.. Hufham. Dr. Mills, of Wake
Forest. and many ministers of his county
of Halifax
For the sake of my life [ cannot see
why the sale and manufacture of whis-
wey in the country is worse than it is
in town" The conditions in cities is
worse and the London bill does not put
whiskey out of towns of over 5000 people
1t would not benefit the smaller towns.
az feel that the most dangerous evil is
the evil dressed in decenCy," is the way
Mr. Travis characterized the liquor traf-
fic in the handsome city harrOom with
the ice clinking in the glass. The stills
in town. he said would affect the boys
and the young men in far greater number
than in the country. Eve are on the
wrong track" he said in closing
SENATOR JUSTICE SPEAKS.
Senator Justice stated that as he would
be out of the city for some days he
desired to speak now for the London bill,
emitting the fifth section which would
be dropped He said that as he would
probably be absent when a vote was
taken he had paired with Senator Hun
ter, and in the various votes his vote
was in charge of Senator London
AS he saw the question under discus
sion there were three issues, these being
the question of morals, the question of
it's being practical and the question of
eXpediency.
He regretted that there had been any
thing said that had wounded the feel
ings of the gentlemen on the other side,
but that he spoke because he did not
care to be allied with those speaking
against the substitute harshly and in SO
doing referred particularly to those out
side the Senate.
With regard to the men who drew the
substitute he said: "They are good men,
but / have my convictions on this sub
nd / nh
in the position they have taken"
Mr.. Justice entered then vigorously and
forcibly the discussion Of the moral the
oxpedicnt and the practical phases of the
matter, deducing from this that the Lon
con bill was practical and expedient,
that if it be made enactive by the Demo-
cratic party it would be found of the
greatest aid.
He held the position that whiskey
should not be prohibited in the city, but
simply so because he did not believe
that if could be dose, that where peo-
pie congregated there would be liquor
sold, legally or Illegally and he pre-
ferred that this traffic be legal than
that it debauch by being done in secret.
The Anti-Saloon League had at heart
the promotion of temperance and the
suppression of vice, but not one of its
members have written that the sale OF
liquor be prohibited in Raleigh or Marion,
or in the large towns, and this because
they knew that a large population meant
a demand for liquor, and a violation of
law to get it. In the sparsely settled
country districts he held that no organ
ICED liquor selling could be maintained
successfully and hence no liquor should
be sold there.
Omitting the fifth section he declared
he was in favor of the London bill and
he discussed and contrasted this with
the substitute bill, showing that the
London bill meant more or the people,
had more of hope in it. Men who were
asked if they were for temperance aid
often said I'VE are, but and then a
dash, which meant" We are not
The London bill provides for an cleo
tion where this is proper and it says
that prohibition must exist where it S
best. 1t is the moral sentiment Of the
public that must enforce prOhibitory
laws, and where this does not exist it
is the part of folly to pass such laws,
as they will not be sustained.
The necessity for driving out the d1N-
tiIeries from the country districts he
portrayed most ably and aptly. He
showed how destruction and devastation
had come with them in the country and
how it prospered and would prosper when
| they had been displaced.
Answering Mr.. Woodlands question as
| to where the stills should be located
and the suggestion that it was in the
province of the county commissioners
| to determine this, he said not, and con-
tinuing he said:
THAT the question reminds him that
| the county commissioners are but hu-
| man and that they made mistakes and
could be influenced especially when going
out of office or looking for another
term. when the liquor vote was needed.
why" he exclaimed, "even here the
| liquor men are endeavoring to control
| legislation and we must stand against
| them The bar men are already arrayed
against us because of our support of dis
pensaries and we should take from them
| the power to hurt US with their liquor