The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-06-03


call your attention to 1t in parts so that
you can answer intelligently. Did he come
to your office and you said TO him: rs this
the Mr.. Smith whom l talked with yester-
and You sand d P9 20, yes; come right into my
office" A.-No; he came and introduced
himself as Mr.. Smith and / asked, Are
YOU the Mr.. Smith that talked with me over
the phone last?' and asked him to come
in and sit down
Q.-You are the chairman of the Republic
an city committee? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And probably two or three strangers
day would strike you in that way? A
Yes, sir; more than that.
Q.-And on all kinds of propositions? A.
Yes, sir; all kinds of business.
Q.-You didn't know this man Smith from
any other member of the extensive Smith
family, did you? A.-No, sir; never saw
him before as / know of.
Odd he tell you, as soon as he came in,
that he had run into an obstacle in placing
his machines, and that he came to you to
secure your assistance? Ale told me.
told me in very short order that he had
difficulty in placing machines. and. indeed,
he said his company had never had ma
chimes in this city, or were not successful
In getting them In, or something to that
Odd you say to him this-I have al
ready asked you IL he said to you that he
came to you for assistance through friends
OF his, and that he said to you that he found
out you were all o. K, and you said to him,
We'll, Mr. Smith, am here in the interest
of the Republican party" and you said you
said you would talk the matter over with
other people first? Did any such converse
ton as that take place? Al possibly
might have said was there in the interest
don't remember of saying it at that time.
OIL call your attention to this CONVERSE
ton because it is so connected with others
want to call your attention to it, Did you
ask him how much his company would
stand TO pay for your services. to the cam
paign fund? A--No. sir.
Odd he then say to you, II don't know
about one thousand dollars?" A.-No. sir:
Q.-And did you then say. well, now, if
1t is fifteen hundred dollars year ii Is
o. K.?" A.-No, sir.
WOULD TELEGRAPH.
Q.-And did he then say, ''Well, I will
telegraph my company and find out? May
be 1T is worth more to the company. 1
will find out?" Al think he did say he
would telegraph to the company.
Ole did say that he would telegraph
to the company and find out whether $3.50
year would be o. X. instead of thou
sand? Ayes, sir; and he said he thought
they would be willing to pay $500. but to
assure me he would telegraph and find out.
Odd you warn him as soon as that con-
versation took place and say. Now, look
out, / want to tell you about that part.
You be damned careful about the message
you send and how you send 1t" Did you
say that? Al don't think l used that
language. 1 asked him if he would send
an open telegram of that kind over the
wire. He said, mo, indeed, he had been
in the business too long for that" that it
Gas soon as he offered you money did
you suspect what he was after? Ayes.
sir; thought he was not there for any
good purpose.
Q.-You were under investigation. at that
time? Ayes, sir; and called his attention
to that fact.
Q-Your object was to find out what he
been sent there.
Q.-You felt he had been steered there
to use the common term-and you were go
Yes, sir.
Q.-Then, did you ask him if he had any
cards. and did he tell you. mo; that he
any one to pick up?" Did that occur?
Al asked him If he had his card or any,
thing to identify himself by, and he said
he never left any literature in his wake
think that is the term he used-to identify
him.
Odd you laugh and say, That is
right, you seem to understand your bust
ness and did he say. II never talk in a
crowd myself and would never talk to
two men together" and warn him not to
do SO while he was here? Ayes, sir;
that is about the idea; don't know that
$50 instead of his stringing you. you
were stringing him? / will ask you if you
said to him, 1.-THE damned saloon keepers
here were not putting up any more money,
but they were like prostitutes think
that is the word that was used, in the
printed copy here, they have used dashes-
if you give them an inch they will take a
keep their noses clean and come around
in time for voting purposes. Al said
Q.-What did you say? Al said as
far as l knew the saloon keepers of the
city under this administration had never
paid one cent into the campaign fund. That
conversation came up in regard to what
was done in other cities.
Odd you say to him, 81 will go and
arrange matters. and be sure and come
back to my office at o'clock next Wednes-
day morning and 1 will have all plans
made for the future of your machines?"
Ayes, sir.
that. Did he then say 10 you that If the
machines would get caught in raids that
could be arranged simply by fixing a little
Al told him that had seen in the papers
of few days before that Judge Stubs
and Judge Whallon, l didn't know why.
houses and 1 thought that arrangement
could be continued.
DIDN'T SAY 1T.
Odd you say to him that Judge Whal-
ion was a good friend of yours and the
judge would let you know every move that
he was making and you could control that
part easy? Al don't think I did. No,
sir.
Dwell, he and you conversed on local
political machines hope you didn't say
anything about the Taggart machine? A
1 don't remember having any conversation
with him about political machines.
Dwell, you told him to return to your
office on Wednesday? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And said something about a final
agreement? Al told him l would see
the parties necessary to see.
Q.-Was there any conversation there
about Gus Rahke having forty-eight ma
chimes, and you told him not to worry
about Gus, that Gus didn't have any pull
Apart of that was said. / think he
or fifty machines. L asked him where he
had them placed, were they in saloons, or
where they were. He said he thought the
most of them were in roadhouSes around
the outskirts of the city.
Q.-Now May 20 you say he came back?
Ayes. sir.
Q.-That was on Friday and he came to
your office on East Market street? A
Yes, sir.
GAS you had told him to do? Ayes,
sir.
Q.-Now, did this occur, and if so, say
so, and If not, let Us have your version of
| it. Did you say: by God, ] could not get
to see the mayor, and have not got ii fixed
yet" He said: II am sorry" and offered
TO compensate you, and you said: 'No;
to wait until everything was fixed" Did
that occur? Al don't remember OF that
| conversation that way at all.
Oft was lust before he showed Won the