The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1903-09-20
UTAH CITIZENS
TALK FORESTRY
Representative Men Hold Confer.
eace at Provo.
PINCHoT AND POTTER
GOVERNMENT IS REPRESENTED
By TWO employees.

ESPECIAL 90 The HeraldD
Provo, Sept. BY invitation Of
Senator Smoot a number Of representa-
tive men from various parts Of the
state affected by the forest reserve or
dcrs made by the government met in
the court house today for the purpose
OF meeting Messrs- clifford Pinchot and
\. j.. Potter OF the government for
estry department Senator Smoot and
Congressman Howell, and talking over
the extent OF the forest reserves in
order that Senator SmOot. Congress
man Howell and the representatives Of
the government may know the desires
OF the people in the matter, the Opin-
ion being general that the reserves are
too large and iu some places cover
ground where there is no timber.
Among the delegates representing
various counties were the following:
Utah county-C. L. Love, w. o.
Greer, j. s. Page. 1r.. !. .. Williams,
James Glove, Henry Gardner.
Wasatch county-A- q. Hatch. J. r.
Murdoch. Alvl NJ. Murdoch, John L.
Austin.
TooeIe couuty-John C. Shields. John
7. Gordon, Hugh s. GOwans, J. L.
WrathaU.
Sewer county,. S. Jensen, George
II. Stevens. T.. W. Crane.
tnttIIlifNN GUILTY. w L. LII lalE Ablls L.
c. CauGl8ss. John Seeley, Fred Jensen,
Henry Jackson. Thomas Kearns.
Iron county-Juhn Parry, Charles
Adams. Lehi Jones.
Gintah county,. StOOkey.
On account of the train from Ogden
ON which Mr.. Pnchot was aboard be-
ing several hours late he did not ar
rive till this afternoon and the fore
noon was taken up with informal talks
nfnonar the TnnVaCnr1f Cd fV-ag pf tho w
rioUs sections i'm regard 10 the extent
and locations Of the reserves. and. in
cidentally, OF fna comparative injury
inflicted by sheep and cattle.
I'm the afternoon Senator Smoot was
elected chairman and James Glove
secretary.
Chairman Smoot stated that Nessrs.
Pinchot and Potter had desired TO meet
with people from parts of the state
where the reserves were made. The
only two which had been adopted were
the Logan and Manti reserves. In an
sWer to "a question Congressman How
ell stated that there were no objections
10 the Logan reserve.
Mr.. Livingston Of Manti stated that
there had been objections to the Manu
reserve. There were 100000 head of
sheep on the Manu reserve and a large
number OF cattle. 10 was understood
10y the people interested that the num-
Der of sheep that would be allowed
under the order for next year would
be 100000 and that the cattle would be
limited to $4,000 What to do with
their sheep and cattle was interesting
the people. If they had to be removed
il was questionable whether enough
cars could be obtained to move them
out, and if they could, whether the
transportation would not cost more
than the sheep and cattle would be
worth Mr.. Livingston felt that If the
order could be modified. at least to
an extent that would give the flock
masters and Cattlemen more time to
dispose Of their sheep and cattle. if
they had 10 dispose of them, il would
be. of great benefit.
Mr.. Pinchot explained that the order
came from the land Office and not from
the department of forestry. which had
recommended the boundaries of the
forest reserve. Recommendations from
the department of forestry would. how
ever. probably be considered and COM
piled with.
Mr.. Potter spoke at length on the
question. The object of the forest re-
serve was TO preserve the forest and
the range and to conserve the water
and at the same time to permit such
grazing as would not defeat these OBJ
iects. on the question of grazing. MI
Potter stated that the number Of cat
Tie and sheep that would be permitted
on the range would be such a number
as could be grazed without injury 10
the range.
MIR. Canister brought up the cues
tiOn OF transient sheep. stating that
Tooele and Salt Lake counties had used
the Uintah range for summer range
and Tooele county for winter
range. and nnder' the order of the
DEPARTMENT they were NOW ulaced i'm
the fourth class. and the owners cut
Off from the ranges they had used for
forty years.
Mr.. Pinchot explained that the in
tention was not TO make any great and
sudden changes that would work in
juTiOusly to- the interests of the peO-
pie and it was promised by Messrs.
Pinch0t and Potter that they would
make recommendations TO the depart
ment Of the interior for q more gradual
change I'm the number Of sheep and
cattle permitted 20 be grazed on the
reservation. until fl can be determined
how large a number can be grazed
without injury TO the reserve. This
was satisfactory TO the Sanpete dele
cation.
The question of other proposed re-
sCrvcs-the Payson Salina, Tooele.
GAINESVILLE. AQuarius and others-was
then discussed with Messrs. Pinchot
and Potter. the people interested I'm
their respective localities suggesting
such notifications as they desired.