The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-08-26
streets and ,reiteration of former state.

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 JOHN c. CARTER. John c. Carter, owner of the gravel pit. was introduced, sworn and testified as l follows:
 MT. Gunter: Mir. Carter, this committee is for the purpose of examining the sale of your pit to the city. and for exaplina- | ton of the relations of Aldermen with other pits that were offered for sale will ask you first, Mir. Carter. how many Aldermen do you know? A. am &C., | quainted with all of them. Q. Do you know them all. A. Yes. | sir.
 Q. How many Aldermen, by name, have you spoken to in reference to the purchase of this pit? A. think I have | mentioned 1t to Mir. Mcintyre; think mentioned 1t to Captain Anderson; I think I mentioned 1t to MT. Haygood. to Captain Cheney; I don't know whether | mentioned 1t to Mr. Gunter or not; | am not positive about Mir. Gunter; mem tioned it to MT. Roeder; mentioned it | to Mir. Hartley; I mentioned it to Mir. Toole; mentioned it to Mir. Fleming. Q. Mir. Farley or MT. Johnson? A. don't remember Farley or Johnson. o. Mir. May? A. Yes. o. Did you mention 1t to Mir. Rush. ton? A. don't know whether have or not.
 Q. Did you mention 1t to Mir. Hartley ! A. Yes; l have named him. Q. MT. Carter. to whom did you first mention the gravel pit? A. have no | idea.
 O.. Did you ever offer to any Alderman any inducement for the purchase of the rit? A. Never.
 Q. Was any Alderman to get any pe- cuniary benefit from the sale of your gravel pit' A.. None at all.
 Here Mir. Carter described his gravel pit and it's advantages over others). | o. Do you know MT. Ford? A. I do. | O.. What are your relations with him? A. Always friendly until now. o. How long have you known him? A. Eight or ten years, probably longer. l o. You say always friendly until now; are they otherwise than friendly now? A. The reason say that, the other day when I was up here he met me. him and Mir. Carr in the Mayors ofiice there, he did not speak to me. l Q. Had you been friendly previous to that time? A. Yes. | c. Up to what time-was that the first intimation you had2 A. First intima- tion that had, sir. Q. Did Mir. Ford ever take any inter- est in the sale of your gravel pit to the Council. A. If he has have never | known 1t, he has been against me. | o. He has been against you? A. Yes. O. Since when? A. I could not tell you; I see him out here having holes, see the hands from the city, city hands Carr Gibson, and city hands out there digging try wells on that property with out conferring with me whether they could go there or not. | 0. And that Is the reason you say MT. Ford Is not. A. I saw the hands dig ging these wells. I asked by what au- thority they were digging the wells and they said Mir. Ford's. Q. Has he ever taken any interest in the sale of your property to the city? A. None whatever. sir; If he has have nev- | CT known it,
 Q. Do you know MT. Campbell Jones? A. do, sir.
 Q. What are your relations with him2 A. Friendly.
 Q. Friendly? A. Yes, sir.
 Q. They are friendly now? A. Yes, sir; so far as I am concerned.
 0. How long have you known him A. have known Campbell Jones for eight or ten years; probably longer.
 Q. Have your relations changed any in the last six months? A. No.
 Q. Did you go out with MT. Ford and
 
 the gravel nit? A. did. sir.
 Q. When was that? A. That was the latter part of March.
 Q. Tell us the result of that examina- ton and the conversation you had at that time? A. We went out there before this pit We undertook to put in operation. My brother owned this land. There is a large marsh before you reach this hill. before I would dare to begin this enor- mcus fill ho wanted to be Justified in do- ing 1t, so he went there, took his hands and sunk trial wells 1-2 years before he died. He had these trial wells sunk and saw that 1t would pay him to put 1t in operation. Before this fill was completed 1 he died. After his death I had 1t com- pleted, but the trial-well, when MT. Ford and MT. Jones and myself went there the trial wells of Jean Carter had sunk, they went and examined them, they asked me -there was a good deal of washing-they asked me to have those pits opened up | I went and had them opened up. They came there and examined again, pro- nounced it the finest pit that they had | ever seen.
 1 Q Who pronounced it the fnesG pit they had ever seen? A. Both of them. MT. Lobman: Ford and Jones? A. Yes.
 | Mi Gunter. Are those the pits that are now there. A. Some of them are.
 Q; Have you sunk pits since' A Yes c. Has any alderman made any over lures to you for any benefit to himself on the sale of this pit? A. No. l Q. Do you know of any overtures be- | ing made to any alderman? A. I do not. 1 Q. Do you know of any overtures be- ing made to any alderman on the sale of any other pit? A. don't know; I gen. | orally attend to my own affairs. and don't hunt others. c. In your communication to this Com mittee you made statement that you would like that the examination be made public so that you could furnish light to | them upon the sale of this pit. and the other pits. What did you mean by that | expression? A. Well. just wanted to be heard. There have been so many ru- mors, Mir. Gunter. of various kinds, about bribery and one thing and another going on I never heard of bribery until the consummation of the sale of my pit which was sold not word The next morning I begun to hear rumors my friends came to me and told me what they had heard, one thing and another about bribing the Aldermen
 c. Who furnished you that informa- ton that Aldermen were bribed In the purchase of your pit, or in the purchase of other pits? A. Furnished me what? c. With that information that you spoke of? A. saw it in The Advertiser. | 0. You stated friends came to you? A. Paul Smith mentioned 1t to me. Q. MT. Paul Smith? A. Yes. sir. q. Anyone else? A think Mir. Chas- tain did-I paid very little attention to 1t.