The Birmingham age-herald., 1903-11-19
Michigan Representative Gets
 Wtathy in House Debate
CUBAN BILL IS EXTERNAL
Opposition to the Measure Is Heard and Some Vigorous Speeches Are Made-Mr. Grosvenor Makes
 Election Prophecy.

Washington, November 1S.-The oppo- stion to the Cuban bill was heard in the house today and in vigorous speeches. The features of the day were the speeches l of Grosyenor of Ohio, who opened the discussion in advocacy of the bill and of Mir Fordney, republican, Michigan, who spoke in opposition. Mrs. Grosvenor spoke for more than an hour dlying which he was frequently interrupted by questions emanating from the democratic side. The coloquies. especially those with MT. Clark of Missouri, brought loud ap- plause first on one side of the chamber and on the other. MT. Grosvenor made a phophetic statement as to how the states will be aligned In the coming pres hentlal campaign in response to the dec- laration of MT. Clark as to the probable ity of democratic success next year.
 MT Fordney and two of his republican colleagues from Michigan spoke in oppo- position to the bill. MT. Fordney em- phatically expressed his disapproval of the measure. He made an attack on Mr. Francis Thurber of New York, and crti- cised General Leonard Wood in severe terms for paying money to MT. Thurber for distributing literature in favor of Cu- ban reciprocity two years ago. Among others who spoke in opposition to the bill were Messrs Shafrot. Colorado; Burgess, Texas. and Bell. California, democrats. and Messrs. Moran and Loud the lat- ter two republicans from Michigan.
 The debate will close tomorrow and vote will be taken not later than 4 D. m.
 House Convenes.
 The house resumed consideration of the Cuban bill today MT. Grosvenor, Ohio, opening the debate. He prefaced his re- marks by saying that while the debate had taken wider range, he regretted that there had been no discussion on the other side of the house on the Panama canal question: and in this connection said the position of the administration was unassailable and would rebound to the glory of the American people.
 MT. Grosvenor introduced letter writ ten by Charles Foster. former secretary of the treasury under President Harrison. to Senator Foraker, dated october S, 19O3 in which he states the conditions of the treasury when Harrison retired and Cleve- ] land became President He gave in de- tail facts in connection with the prepara- ton of bond plates in February, 1893, and of hte steps taken after consulting, as he said. with Senators Sherman and Cor man and MT. Carlisle, who was to become Mir Clevelands secretary of the treas ury 1t Is stated in the letter that MT. Foster turned over to MT. Cleveland $lO3,- OOO,O00.
 While speaking of the prospects for the democratic party. MT. Clark, Missouri asked if Mr Grosvenor knew that of the nineteen men convicted in St. Louis. six teen of them were republicans. 'l don't [ know replied MT. Grosvenor. but 1T that is true it don't speak we'll for the fairness of the administration of jus tlce." Applause on the republican side)
 Grosvenor Predicts.
 MT. Grosvenor. replying to the state ment of MT. Clark, Missouri, as to the probability of the democrats gaining con- trol of the next congress and electing the next President said he would show what the result would be. The democrats he said, would carry Alabama, Arkansas, Florida Kentucky. Mississippi. Missouri, | North Carolina, South Carolina, Tenn essee Texas and Virginia.
 MT. Sulzer, New York-"And you might add New York
 MT. Grosvenor-"I might add Ohio, but
 
 MT Grosvenor was frequently inter- rupted by questions from members of the minority side. Replying to questions as to the price of steel rails abroad as com pared to the price in this country, MT. | Grosvenor said the surplus went abroad. Answering MT Swanson's statement as 1 to retaliation by Russia, Great Britain and other countries, Mir Grosvenor said:
 Awe will take care of Russia, she Is | our friend, also take care of England, remarkng that "she has good sense.'
 MT Grosvenor said he would not permit his vote on this question to be challenged as affecting his attitude on the Dominican question of protection to American in- dustries Speaking of tariff revision he said the republicans would revise the schedules when they got ready to do so and in their own way without any aid from the opposite side of the house and the revision would be with special ref erence to the upbuilding of American in- dustries, without disturbing present con- dltions. He observed that nothing would be more destructive than to have the democrats come into power, but that was an impossbility for the next two years.
 Fear of Retaliation.
 Replying to the remarks of MT. Swan son of Pennsylvania, he said there need be no fear of retaliation from a country | Chasing food supplies from the outside.
 Answering a statement made by Mir. | Clark, Missouri, as to the conditions ex- isting when Mir. Cleveland went in as Presidern MT. Grosvenor said: Upon the election of Cleveland there was practical ly suppression of the income of the revenues of the government in to the treasury of the United States. It was na- tural; 1t was inevitable. It would hap pen again If somebody other than Roose- welt should be elected President next year"
 MT. Grosyenor said further that the democrats would find some fighting ground in Delaware and Ohio. Possibly Maryland, he said. was in doubt. Mon tana was somewhat doubtful 'I put New York in this column against my own judgment" he said, adding that If the democrats do not carry New York city by double the vote given MT. McClel- Ian they would be defeated fin that state. | He said this gave the democrats 15i votes and @ doubtful. He then named the fol-