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Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
ANNOUNCEMENT.
To the Electors Of The Sixteenth Judicial CIR
cult of the State of Wisconsin =

cut of the State of Wisconsin =
The time is now approaching whrt
YOU will be called upon to elect "A jndg'
for this circuit, and as | have received
numerous inquiries as to whether "l
not intend to be candidate, and as
have also received many expressions
from all parts Of he circuit wishing and
requesting me tn stand for reelection
and continue my services as judge ''f
this circuit. and as have carefully cnI-
sidered the matter and am satisfied thai
there is desire on the part of the pe''-
pie for my continuance ia office rs
Judge, and, moreover my clrcnm-
ances being such that | shall be glad
to serve for another term, l do hereby
announce myself as non partisan can
didate for reelection to the office ut
Judge of the Sixteenth Judicial Circuii
at the next spring election.
NV expectation and hope for election
and a continuance in service as judge,
is that the electors of the circuit will
say that my past services merit re-
election. and do hereby renew my
former promises that | shall studinuslj
refrain from all participation IN par
tisanship or party discussions or ser
vice, and that | will under ali cIrcuia-
stances and with Whatever abliity anal
energy | possess, faithfully perform and
discharge all the duties, alway~ import
ant and often extremely difficult de.
volving upon me as judge. without fear
without favor and without prejudice
So declaring for non-partisan jude
iary this shall be the platform upon
which confidently ask continuance
of the generous support heretofore
given me aud which truly appreciate,
In due time nomination papers viii
be pr, pared aud an opportunity AT
forded you for signing the same.
Respectfully your friend
and fellow citizen,
W &. SILvERTHoRN
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

The last Sunday Sentinel contained
the pictures of Wisconsin men who
held prominent places in Washington.
Among them was a very good
one Of our fellow citizen, Louis A.
Pradt, Assistant Attorney General, Of
whom the Sentinel correspondent has
tn following to say
ThsIe are five OF these assistants
among whom il Louis A. Pradt. of " au-
su, ho is the assistant III charge of
claims brought against the government
in the Court of Claims. Under Mr..
Pradt are lumber of attorneys en-
gagged in the work of pr, pairing the
C ses on b, half of the government for
trial in The court The other assistants
t. he attorney general are engaged in
handling eases which are tried III the
regular federal courts such as eases
arising under the Sherman antitrust
law, the Interstate commerce law, and
Other acts which have been passed by
congress for the furtherance of the
aims of the federal government MIR
Pradts duties relate to specific kinds
# claims, some of which are seut to
the Court Of Claims BY congress for
adjudication, and others, such as the
old war claims, arising out of the loss
or confiseation Of property during the
civil war, are provided for in what is
known as The Bow man act for trying
the eases in the Court IF Claims
When law is passed by congress
which gives rise to claim against the
government on the part Of a private
citizen, firm, or corporation. such claim
Is prosecuted in he Court of Claims
and Mr. Pradt's office prepares the de-
Tense on the part If the government.
A notable instance of his was the claim
of Admiral Dewey and his men for prizr.
money and other awards growing out
of the destruction of the Spanish fleet
in Manila This case was taken to the
United States Supreme court on find
ings of fact, and the government was
represented in the controversy by Assist
ant Attorney General Pradt. 1t is an
Interesting branch of the law aid af-
fords opportunity for study of intricate
problems in the preparation of eases,
collecting of evidence, and making of
briefs.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

A bill has been introduced in the leg
islature through the influence of the
Independent telephone companies
which if passed will compel the Bell,
or Wisconsin, Telephone Co to make
connections with independent COM
panies and transmit messages II
is held to be a common carrier
the same as railroad and is COM
PEELED to take and transmit messages
to the end of the line as a railway COM
pany is compelled to carry the ear of a
rival company to a destination on its
line. Another bill has been introduced
fixing q rate for telephone rentals a
rate slightly in advance of that now
charged by most independent compan-
les but greatly below the rental charged
by the Wisconsin company. OF course
both bills will be fought by the old cor
poration, but it is doubtful if their eff
forts will be- of any use
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

GEO. BAER, one of the "Divinely
appointed Pennsylvania coal barous
and president of the Reading R'y Co
spoke before the commission appointed
to look into the troubles of the coal dis
tricts. He arrogantly denounced the
miners civic federation and the national
legislators. If he could only have his
own way, with the exception of select
few, every man in this country would
be his abieet slave.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Rev. 6. N Wilson. D. D., pastor
Preaching At 1879 8 u. and 7 81 . n, Sunday
Sunday School al Y NJ
YPSF meeting - 81 . m
lntermsdiafe r - = meeting, - pm
Jurf0r Ps. y naes.gis-a 1T S8" 2 m
SandsJ school ~ ~esf ssts chapel nyegS AuS.
de ~ 45H o'rlnct-
Sunday scfcs1 ST the Hull Memorial fhape
e. y -sundz4 Afternoon g. fffcspck
Ts cheers Bible @fuH firss ev@rs Ncnfff
aver ~ : -z
Fraspr nesting on Fhnr4ds7 esssirE - : 81.
IL me ss.srr,frat sfs,.Fs slesfs = fffs ~
~ str4nssrs. and ali sssla frss Ia the essnine.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

An attraction that has been de-
cided success from the novelty of its
melo dramatic construction, comes to
the Grand opera house when The
Span of Life win be Seeu for one night
Tuesday Feb 24th. The play is one of
the best Of its kind, and leaves most
pleasing impression with play goers
1t is story which eXciies and interests
and which is sustained until the fnal
curtain.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

According to request made OF n
we publish the names of the prize win
ners at the masquerade bali give'
Thursday evening at Seefeldt's hall o.
n. Third street, as follows: Best lady's
costume. Dora Klinkelie; best gent
costume, Carl Hintz, best comic costume
Robt. Bleese
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

A bill was introduced in the Assem-
bly, Wednesday the passage of which
will repeal the law of gravitation,
which has been on our statute books so
long. One aSsemblyman has submitted
a bill To repeal the law Of supply and
demand, another a bill which will
knock the eye out IF the law of cause
and effect. Strange how these farmer
statesmen get busy when they get into
the state legislature.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
ANNOUNCEMENT

To the Voters of The Counties Of Marathon,
Lincoln, Oneida ami Itids:
| hereby announce myself as candl
date for the office of Circuit Judge of
the Sixteenth Judicial Circuit IF Wis
consin, comprising the couuti~s above
named, AT the spring election to be held
in April If This year.
If elected, it will be my constant en-
deavor to discharge the duties of the
office efficiently aud impartiallS
Wausau, Wisconsin. January 9Th,
1908. ELISHA l. BUMP
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

As,EMBLYMAN CADY, Of Marshtield
has iutruluced bill M. $50 A, To
create the Central Wisconsin State Fair
association TO be located at MarshfieId,
and approprialing annually for that
purpose the sum of $3.50, aud also 10
per cent of the amount IF premiums
annually paid by the said association.
This is bill which should be killed
The state now allows one county fair in
each county sum equal to 40 per cent
of the premiums paid mp to 50, coo, only
ST 900 of such sum To be paid for exhi
billions of speed and 81 coo for agricul-
tural purposes, So that no fair can draw
To exceed 81 ,2u0 The stat. also allow $
liberal sum for the state fair
The Northern Wisconsin State Fair
at Chippewa Falls aud the Inter State
Fair at La Crosse have for a numh,r If
years enjoyed special favors, the same
as Marshteld Is now seeking BY rea-
son of these special appropriations,
these favored fairs are able to Offer
larger purses for race races than the
ordinary county fairs, and the horses
are therefore drawn away to the locali-
ties thus specially favored b, the state
This is mnnifestly unfair If Chippewa
Falls or Marshlield want fairs they
should be compelled to do as other
counties do, aud take the &C per cent.
which the state offers If the legiSla-
ture of Wisconsin, ever expects Wiscon-
sin to have respectable state fair they
should stop all special appropriations
for Northern, Central, Inter. State and
other semi state fairs.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

LAST Wednesday was busy day with
the Wisconsin legislature. Over 100
bills were introduced. Whew if this
rate keeps up the papers of the state
will have to raise on their price for
publishing the laws. 1t will not do to
pay the price now received for white
mn npr
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

4 woalIn in q waiting room IF nre
of the aaDnfS Recently had great deal
af trouble uifh one IF her children. a
hoy of seven or eight, and !. man who sat
n~arhv her. stood II "a long as possible,
and then observed
ssaadana. that hav IF yours needs the
ssreog hand nf = fsfher !"
les Know il she replied sshut
he can't heya ii His father died when
he was six wears Of age and W.. done
nv hestso get him snather and fsi'.-d
He can't have whaf | ean'f get. Would
ron care to try yourself
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Rev. Frank A. Pcase, pastor.
Preschsne al 1890 a n SUNDAY
SuudAs school ~ u O'Clock,
Missita Sunday School. 6is Lincoln Ave- Ton
8th sfreetl 2.30 IN
= esi.ride Nission meets in the church audi
t.sripm AZ fhr,e o'clnrk
Epworth IeaRBe Sunday - $50 D. m
Th.. f,aiie-' AID society will meet with Mrs.
r. Baker, aDklin street, Wednesday,
afternoon.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

GEO. w. BISHOP, of Rhinelander is
very sick at the Riverside Sanitarium,
Milwaukee. 1t is said that his trouble
is paresis. All of MIR. Bishops Wausau
friends anxiOusly hope for his early re-
covery
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
sr. IoHn,s lnnRflH

Rev. W. ]. Cordiek. RecFor.
Holy Communion ~ 1850 a, m,
MAfins amt Sermon ~ 1880 q m.
SundEy-school and RectDr's bible class, AT II m
Evens ny aBa sermon ~ Z 80.
choir rehearsal on Safnrday eDing a I@O
The music ~ these services il rendered ~
vested choir Of % voices.
weekly axe -ale saturday = At frenchh
ST Fai5hs Guild meffs fTer1 lhufsdsy after
noon With Mi.s josie MaynBrd. 30 AdAms street
he l.adies' II s.. hhfti az Guild vii mfel
vi i Mrs. d. r. Dunbar OF Wednesday after
44fgu.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

An exchange, published in This
county says. in speaking of the killing
of wildcat: 1T was IA large animal.
and would make a very formidable foe
if q man should have met him an-
armed" If the wildcat had been
armed when he met that same man
what kind of fle would he have made
Ii n Widest IS dangerous unarmed
what might be be il he is allowed 10
carry armSs We think the state legis-
lature should pass prohihitive meas
ure of some sort to stop the sale of Al ms
t. wildcats. then people of the sawdnst
towns might. in gning from their homes
to the town pump. do so without fear
ing the wildcat aud his death-desling
FIRE arms.
UuiverSalist church. SATURDAY., Feb.
2ist, Washington tea, from $50 until s
o'clock.
WaNTED-A good sized second hand.
fire proof safe. Wis Box Co.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Rev. Adam Fawcett Pastor.
Sonday school. As m
Prayer no aefing 90 Thursday e7e1ing at 7:59.
Prayer meeting from = 5.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
arnnav BAPTIST. l2iz slx7H ),

Rev. Albert Iilkner. pastor.
Prea hiDa At $3.50 n and - p N
Sagsdsy-Scho.,i Al II N
Prayer meeting 81 ~ tntsdNy evening
Wonen's Missionary Sssei~fy meets on tiaa rrst
~ a.fiuee<lsy Of aech month
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
Firsf Drhlirafiau Feb I1tb last Narrh 81.

Warrant ~ Attachment.
In Nanieipsi Court, Marathon oonty.
STATE on &Hsco>sIN
Nara hen ttunfy.
To fh~ Raod'ord oun'y Dis'Illery Company:
Yen are her4fy n..fif II shaf = wsrrsnT Of
~ asi a@fa ha been issDpd sRsinsi fou snd
ffst rfy attached - sstj@f' he atmAna 81
n i4fAara s~tfrairf. apesuufing ~ $3.50
Nns htreFore nniees vnu - ail app a. bes 70
Hon ~ nry Willie. nnicip4i IN 'ee IN and for
said csarfy - iis fire IN fhc city of Wausau.
il .tid BaUrgy aid -f,fe % tho iith dag Of
Naxch. II. ~ - IN sirt * u fe snFens0ns
f. gn.tt will b ~ nd q agssin~N SID y"uF
3 riy suid .fs. tai- sttf.
baLtd tl.ss IslE ds3 - bfaary, &. y tt03
hILLxkM s1KnIDT. Plaintiff.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Tickets for the Reuter- concert are 90
sale noar; secure them AID also a good
seat for the occasion.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

GEO B. CARTELYoU, of New York,
who has been President Roosevelts
private secretary, has been appointed
secretary of commerce and labor.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

John Hicks, that veteran republican
editor, of the Oshkosh North" estern,
says:
IN one of Cooper's novels, Old
Leaf herstocki ing shows IA teuderfoot how
IT, tight IA prairie fire The smoke ard
flame IF the advancing fire could b..
plainly seen at distance of six or eight
mics across the prairie and escape was
impossible After surveying the sltua-
Iion, Old Misunderstanding deliberately
fired his Gun into the heritage, which
blaz d upiu an instant and IL small fire.
At once assumed g ganlic proportions.
The tendelfuot was harmed and said 10
Leathrrstocking: You have brought
closer To us the evil we were trying to
avoid But Misunderstanding Wisdom
showed itself when in few minutes
the fire had cleared wide space in
front of them and the hunters took
their place on the burnt ground aud
we're thus safe from the danger that
threatened them in the prairie fire
ITSELF. So by giving way to- the popu-
lar demand for revision of the tariff
we can avoid the greater danger of an
absolute repeal of the protective laws
So far as the recent letter IF senator
DIARIES is concerned, | believe he
is right aud | brlieve he represents
the sentiment of great majority
of the people of Wisconsin, regardless
If party The senator who is To BIZ
elect, q in 1915 must be in favor of tariff
revision and To this extent Senator
Qnaries has squared himself with the
people.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
CHURCH NOTES.
GERMAN NJ Y. o4uncu.

Rev. A. W. Whiting. Pastor.
Preaching l0:.5 a. m. and 80 p, m Sunday.
sunday School at 900 u. IN.
Epworth Leazue, sunday at 100 .. N. and
Friday 7:30 D. m
Junior League on Saturday 1T il;l5 a.
Prayer meeting in church ~ 7;4O D. "a. Nednes-
DAYS.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
unrrraaALrsT.

Key. - B. Gbls Psator
Service 10 - N.
sunos3 schs~,l 1T 2 m
n service. 10 tn. evening
Y. " q. u. devotional meeting, go Sunday
sv niugs
Teachsre' bible meeting Thursday evenings at
tie rhnrish ~ promptly o'clock.
Nid-sss-k praise meeting Thunday evenings
al 80
he I.sdieA' Aid Society will meet wi h Mrs
+. q. ihaIeT On edp. sday afternoon.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
UNatasau pilot.
TUESDAY FEB II, 1903

ubisheG weekly and entered al thf Post ON
at waussu as second class matter.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

The extracts above are not produced
TO draw the fire of the Centrars bian-
derhuss from the PILoT's article of Feb.
10th, but to show the trend of public
opinion and that the old ''robber tariff
is destined to be kicked ont OF decent
society and made to mingle with others
of its iIk.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Special patterns of wall paper -or any
room in the house can be secured of O.
c. Callies.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Oshkosh Northwestern: "Atth same
time there is good evidence that many
of the most careful leaders Of the party,
including even the president, have
reached point where, like Senator
Quarles. they see the necessity for the
Republican party to take another step
in advance in regard to the principle of
protection, and again win the con
fidence of the people by reasonable and
considerable revision of the tariff to ac-
CURED in the business and trade cOndi-
tions of this country since the present
law was enacted Aud of course when
these timid ones, who are always afraid
To risk an opinion until they know they
are in good company, discover that
tariff revision sentiment is in the
aseendency, they viii tumble over each
other TO get in line"
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
Z. v o a.

n Campbell. Secretary.
Csoa,c meeting FOR Dsn, At 4 m, Sunday
! Special singing.
Bihie raading Tuesday NJ $50 p. M.
Bible class Tor ladies meets In the Association
pa lort eYers fnesisy sfterrooD a. $50.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

/ Tho reeealar messibe viii be On the Last Friday
Of each month. 81 O'Clock p. m.
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
arTnonIsr.

The Tesdies' Aid Society will meet with Yrs.
John Kutbier 6l0 Fifth sire t. Wednesday
az
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
r1Rsr oHURoH OF camsT. soIEsTIsT.

Partridge bu ldinR corne Third and Hctlel-
Ian ttseetB.
Sunday Service l0:45 a. NJ.
Ghildren's SUNDAY Sctsooi ll.45 ~.
W ednesday evening meeting As.
Reading room pen daily tom 0 5 ,. nj IL
tbs partridge building 4
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
The Tariff.

ONE of the local papers tells how the
the ''robher tariff is getting in its
work on the poor people, grinding
them down, making of them mere
paupers and whole lot of other sush
Of similar tome, all of which reminds us
If these same tales as told previous to
1898 BY some strange chance a new 8
item IN the same column tells of he
difficulty loggers are all having To get
men AT any price Well. the boys are.
not kicking Very hard about the robber
tariff just ow.-Central.
The PILOT published, in its issue of
Feb. 10Th. column on Trust Prices at
Home and Abroad" and it was the
only paper in the city last wees that
contained 'ariif article The Central,
in its usual ki,ldish way. does not come
out frankly and openly and point % n Y
one staterenf made in that article by
the PILOT that is false, but relieves lis
pent up Indignation b.; stupidity nit, r.
il z, tits slnsh;" such procedure is
simply idiotic The Central would IN, W
honesty and decency by taking up the
article and giving it fair criticism
from the view point of firm believer
10 the ''robber tariff F." The e, ntral
may not be aware of the fact that the
"robber tariff is coming into disrepute
By the ablest independent thinkers of
its own party. That it NAV have
overlooked the straws, which in.
dictate the way the wind is blowing, the
PILOT appends a few extracts from men
who hold high places in the ranks OF
the party of high projections:
Senator Quarles has taken bold
stand in favor of the revision If the tar
if and in ii recent letter, written to q
W. Htzelton, If Milwaukee, he ex-
presses himself as desiring an extra
session of Congress to take up the tariff
aud trusts questions. About the tariff
he says:
1t is reasonable to expect that the
wonderful changes in commercial
conditions, which we have witnessed
In the last six years, amounting al
most to revolution in business
mel hods, would make necessary revis-
ion of these tariff schedules To stand
par at such time is To ignore facts
and conditions with which every body il
familiar"
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17

Alex Reed, of the Appleton Post, in
commenting upon the letter written by
Senator Quarles, says
And, indeed, L me present time is
moi prnpills T. tariff revision VIII n
the untrJ is Pre- er"us and WHEN the
abuses III the tat u sJ siam are great AID
NOTORIOUS, that day will never come
Certainly NO one would think of urging
TINS undertaking " hen turn for thu
WORST III our industrial aft airs comes, as
come it will, whether the tariff be
'tinkertd' now or not Ii it he said,
or it II should prove true, that the seal
ing down uf the tariff wherein its
provisions are being grossly abust d
should diminish the prosperity of th,.
industries affected, we reply, So be it.,
then Better somewhat less of pros
perity that is legitimate than larger
measure in which there is an element
of robbery. We think that the millions
uf American con -umers of heir products
would, without great difficulty becomr
reconciled To some decline in the pros
perity of The Standard Oil company,
the steel and the coal trusts aud
hundreds OF other practical monopnlits
with which The country is Infested
resulting from the permanent seating
de"n IT their colossal profits now re-
.ized i'll part under the shelter IF the
tariff
Wausau pilot. [volume] (Wausau, Wis.) 1896-1940, 1903-02-17
soLlclTs YOUR PATRONAGE

Has safety depoeit vault BoSe
for rent at So per year.
Holbrook argus., 1903-03-14
Ancient Decorative Art.

Though it is difficult to say where the decorative value of pottery and of china began to be appreciated, there Is little doubt that it originated in the east. Ancient Chinese drawings still in existence show that the process of manufacture has varied but little in the course of the years and that many con. trivances claimed as modern European Inventions have been known for cen tnrics in the east.
 In Chinese official annals, which are nid to be perfectly authentic the in. vention of porcelain is dated at about coo years before the Christian era, although Father Entrecolles, resid- ing in China at the commencement of the seventeenth century. dates 1t long before this, and tells us in a most inter- esting manner of the great porcelain works of King Te Ching, one of the most ancient and celebrated of the Chi nese factories. He says that in his time there were no fewer than 5000 ovens at work, which gave to the town at night the appearance of one vast fur. mace with innumerable chimneys.
Holbrook argus., 1903-03-14
Knew What She Wrote.

rhe need of lead pencil caused a iady who rode in q street car the other day no small embarrassment.
 She sat cunning over her shopping list when suddenly she thought of something to add to 1t. She looked in her pocketbook and ransacked all Its divisions cardcase and all, but no pen oil did che find. Modestly she hesi- tated about asking her neigkbors, but with quick resolve she finally leaned toward a gentleman seated by her and, holding up her list, said loud enough for those in adjacents seats to hear, "Excuse me, sir, may borrow your necktie a moment"
 The gentleman's astonishment was expressed in his silent facial contor. tons until the lady reddened deeply.
 My necktie, madam?" he replied, with arched eyebrows.
 '""Dldn't say pencil ".she asked. And then everybody. grinning behind newspapers. knew what tue lady add ei to her list.-Exchange.
Holbrook argus., 1903-03-14
4 Guests Mot.

Greville does not tell the following story in his famous Memoirs" but 1t Is fitting return for his own rather malicious wit: On one occasion. when Lord Alvaney was his guest, the din Ing room had been newly and showly furnished. whereas the dinner was but very meager one. While many of the guests were complmentirg their host on his taste and magnitcence Lord Al. vanley interrupted them with. For my part. should prefer more carving and less yildinT"