The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1903-10-24
University and v. P. |.
Men Arrive.
THE CONTEST WILL
BE VERY CLOSE
Little Chance of Score Being
Large Either Way.
THE UNIVERSITY HAS
THE HEAVIER TEAM
The Betting Odds slightIYin Favor of
that Team, but Not Much Money in
Sight as Yet--How the Elevens
vii! Line Up-Fine Gameln
Norfolk To-Day-The
Other Contests.

Which shall it be-? What say you?
Maroon and orange or orange and bluer
This is the important question, upon
tho issue Of which. much money will
change hands, and in which several hun
dred students and several thousand cit-&
i2ens are much concerned. Which will
be- the victor In the football game at the
Broad-Street Park this afternoon at 3:15
oclock-thc University of Virginia or the
Virginia Polytechnic Institute? The en-
tEusiastc admirers Of the two elevens3 are
quietly confident that their team is going
to win but each is .slyly looking for
odds, preferring the little end of bet
to an even money wager
About Eve ty atchsd.
The two teams, probably without doubt
the best in the South, with the possible
exception of North Carolina. are known
to be unusually we'll matched, and both
elevens arc in well-nigh perfect physical
condition. and both coached in team play
to the point OF machine-lilke precision. "A
nuSRlcE lOC OIL B|dHta AZ 5{Wuuiu dOef
hard to find. With muscles hardened and
developed scinetificallS, wentY-two men
yxho Will probably averageI1To pounds In
weight will meet In a superb test OF ply
sical prowess and concerted movement
each trying to push pg-skin spheroid
ever a line hfty-fve yards from the CEN
ter Of a field $50 feet long and l60 feet
wide.
The Virginia team has been trained by
the Poes, Nelson, Gresham and John, all
or whom in their timc were stars of the
Princeton elevens OF other years and all
famous players. Their physical condition
has been looked after by DR.. w. A. Lam
beth, physical director of the University.
Their coach, physical director. and Man
aEer Scott of the team, and thirty-two
rlaycrs and substitutes are chartered at
Murphy's Hotel.
V.P. I. at Jefferson.
The Virginia Polytechnic institute has
been coached by Mr.. Lueder, of Cornell.
an expert in the development OF scien-
tific team play. He is with the squad of
twenty four men which arrived at 10 p.
NJ. and went to the Jefferson Hotel, where
Manager Guy A. Chalkley and Professor
Rasche and others awaited them. The
cadet team were Immediately taken to
their training table, where they We're
given frugal supper especially adapted
tc the development Of athletes. The
bows are n heacy and robust lot of young
sters, and had rather hearty appetites
after their long rides Of more than two
l4rndred miles.
The lobbes of both hotels We're thronged
last night with students of the two in
stltutions, friends and admirers, and foot.
ball was talked on every side. Thera
was little talk Of odds on the game at
either headquarters, and adherents Of
the two teams, being wary on this score,
and neither apparently oyer-conf1dent. 7
Neither is claiming an easy victory, and
In fact both realize fully that they are.
in popular parlance, up against stl1
proposition. literally and flguratively.
The impression seems to prevail among
the more conservatWe OF each team an0
school that the score will not be large,
the better judgrn ent placing It at or II
to either way. Few will prophesy atall,
though both seem quietly confident
Retcent A cut " eight.
1t is difficult TO get an accurate state
ment of the real weights of the men on
either team, The management on both
sides underestimate the avordupois OF
their men for private reason, probably
connected with wagers that may be had
1t was stated last night by man sup
posed TO be familiar with the weight and
condition of the men that the entire
Blacksburg or v. p. !. team will average
in weight stripped only about l62. and the
seven line men will average 40 pounds
This is a conservative estimate, TO call
1t by no other name, II Is probable that
the entire eleven average above or about
lTO pounds, including the backs. who are
usually lighter than the line meli, Al least
two of the men In the line exceed aa
pounds each IN weight.
similar strategy and taciturnity nark
the management of the University team.
Their manager stated last night that the
team would average about lis bat from
obtained from other sources
the entire eleven will average lSS or pretty
close to 1870 pounds. Five Of the men u,
the line will average 2l5 pounds, perhaps,
The four backs will average within few
ounces of ITO pounds. These figures are
not Official, but arc more nearly correct
than those given out officially.
Some Exp rler ced Men.
OF the v. p. I. eleven. eight were mem
bers of last years team which was
beaten by the University on the latte9s
grounds only TO In hard fought
game, or the other three men, one was
a guard on last years eleven, ana two are
new men, The team sustains a severe
loss in the disqualification OF Carpenter.
the great plpng,pg half'back, who 10
dieharred f'r tha eligibility rules,
OF the University team, seven men arc
stars OF last years teap, and one OF VI
the new men played wth ~ lsslppi