The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1903-03-27

abused, as the use OF otHer shaHeS .sANN'i,
- Il marco With the Senator from Rich.
4 ,,nnd. ,i5 said Mr.. sale, THAT to vote ior !
stha Mann bill would be a cor,prolmlse 9!
si,rjneiplc and I don't believe the tihance \,
Committee would have reported II UNIV IN. =
they had secured such exemptions /, a tl'
5fhey wanted for their own localities e.
sf,Iiaying called the'sliaine Of the sen SEM
tor from Hanover, Mr.. Wickham JUMP. I1lE
ID l,p with Sars In hls7 eye, ana speaki 81 y
4 = a question Il OF personal privilege, said
IL wanted TO state his own position. re
sn,f fiat asA the representative OF ms
/ Ssnnle. and having received instructions
3frp,i, his people In a taie that could NOT
liz fI,nistaken,5 he feltbin$ duty bound 70
vote for the Mann bill in its tinari1cnded
FORM though there were some features
or 1T that. In his Judgment ought not 20
be adopted.
CHANGES IN THE BILL.
III Nh sale said that he did not want IN
4 shane or form desire to reflect IN any way
,,pon Mr. Wickham, but he had SAID u ana any
stood by It. that the bill would no.
have been reported. had not amendments. :
"a t,sfactory to some Of the members OF
thc committe been placed upon the net.
Mr.. Sale said he agreed fully with MT MI
Anderson In all he had said.
s. Mr. Shackelford's name was mentloneu
= nv Mr.. Sale, and 1.-The Orange Senator ne
Ing n member Of the Finance Committee,
felt constrained to make PERSONA
statement. He said that he did not favor
tho Mann bill, but that he knew t ~
fact that the people OF his district want !,
\ "a ffhe measure passed, rs 1t was amended
~ the comn,itto and llo was going 70
I do that which his, people wanted DONE
"A Mr.. Chapman also OF the Finance Com.
mittee. SPOKE in favor Of the Mann Dill
i features. He was opposed to saloons
unless they could have police protection.
@IJe told OF the decrease Of drunkenness
q IN Greene county since the saloons were
abolished and notwithstanding tho NJ.
iered number OF speak -ensys.' EIe felt
t,,at he vas doing his duty to his con-
stitiIents and to the women and children
4 OF tho country In taking the position ne
had assumed.
v THE FIRST STEP.
Mr.. Anderson addressing the, Senate,
said he Ind heard not one word said
Nv anyone against the principle embraced
nI8hs amendments. he had not
heard Il It denied thnt this effort
Of Judge Mann to break up saloons IN the
country was only n step to break them
np In the cities. For the life OF MIN. ne
could not see why the people themselves
should not be permitted to say whether
bill left the local option law upon the
statute books but ct the same time de-
stroyed It's effect. He could not con-
ceive CT any reason why the people shol1ld
not be permitted to say whether or not
they want the Mann bill put into effect:
He was fighting for the same thing that
Judge Mann wanted nccompllshed.5s3p put
he differed withFfthe Nottoway senator
as to the best means to accompilsn y.
a l,,3n a frnn
a ought to apply to the whole State ana
not to towns Of les than 500 population
III MI, Anderson commended that the peo-
ME themselves could better decide TINS
ma tier than the Judges of court.
THE last Anderson amendment, the one
to allow the people to say whether or n ot
they want the Mann bill, was defeated
by the following vote:
Ayes-NIessrs. Anderson, Bryant, fiar-
yey, Masse Mc1lwaine, Sale, Tyler and
&Wallacc-S. y t
Barksdale, Bruce. Byars
CHAPMAN, Clayton, Cogbill, Dinwiddie
$Donohoe Ford, Gold Halsey, Hartman,
Keezell. Lnpton, Mann, Sears, Shackel-
ford, ST. Clair watkins, Whitehead. and
3W;ckham-21. X 4F
$5 The following pairs were announced the
first named in each pair being IN favor
Of the amendment; Messrs. Cromwell and
Moon Garrett and Lyle, and Hobbs ana
Hutchesoa.5
58,. ANOTHER EXEMPTION.
Mr.. Bryant offered an amendment to
exempt from the operations OF the Mann
Sill counties contiguous to cities nave
nolice protection. He pointed out that
Henrico county had ample police protece
ZION. while the Mann bill would mean
prohibition in Ienrico. He argued thnt
the State would unnecessarily lose re-
venue from Henrico by the passage OF this
act while the morals OF the people could
aot possibly be improved.
Mr.. Bryant said that In counties con-
tiguous to cities tho people would so
Into cities and get whiskey Whiie Inc
counties would lose revenue. :.
'.If the bill Is one to raise revenue
said Mr.. Bryant 81 can see no reason
why it should not he made to accomplish
that which Its title claims for 1t"
Mr.. Sears replying to Mr.. Bryant. said
that II the ftenrico Senator should FOL
low out to the logical conclusion the prln-
chile embraced In his resolution, he would
have to exempt counties contiguous e
towns having 500 population !,
II wish to he as frank rs I can be-
replied Mr.. Bryant, my object Is te
exempt Henrico and Norfolk counties
which have ample police protection
Mr. Sale contendcd that the whole thing
was a compromise Of principle and ne dif
not see why the principle could not bt
further compromised by passing the Bry
ant amendment.
Mr.. Sears replied warmly to Mr.. Salt
and denied that he was, by his vote
s compromising ' principle, but no coult
+ not convince Mr.. Sale that ne was no
doing so.
ut Is never compromise OF principle
to go IN the direction OF principle" sait
p Mr.. Sears. ~ would have voted for IN,
Mann bin to apply to the whole State
added the Mathews Senator, but as
can't get that I will take what cal
4 get of It."
SALE AGAINST 1T.
II am opposed to the Mann bill out
\ right" said Mr.. Salo, II would rathe
{ have the people to 30 to n licensed ga
2 loon. under police protection than to s
to one that is unlicensed ] hope tn
senate of Virginia will consider very care
fully this amendment OF MI. Bryants be
J fore voting 1t do@N Notwithstanding
what the Senator from Mathews says, III
aill is a compromise The cities and towl
OF 500 population and the watering placf
in the mountains and on the sea coa'
have ben exempted, Now why not eA
empt Henrco and Norfolk counties
They are counties that have ample pole
protection appeal to the senators nc
To take a narrow view OF this matte
hut to do Justice by the people ] spea