The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1903-03-04
THE OTHER SIDE.
Tillman Gives His Version OF the
Terrible Tragedy.
HIS STATEMENT GIVEN IN FULL
The Other Testimony Offered in Re.
buttal TO that offered by the
State in Opposition to
Allowing Bail.

Allowing Bail.
Last week we published the testi
mony offered by the State before
| Chief Justice Pope in opposing tht
application of James II. Tillman fol
bail. Below we publish Tillman's
statement in full and other testimony
offered by him in rebuttal. Read il
and draw your own conclusions:
James II. Tillman being duly sworr
says: :,
That in addition to the affidavit
heretofore made by him, he submits
the following:
That he has read the affidavits ot
Joseph E. Allen and Policeman Bo
land, and says in reply thereto, that
he did walk towards the city hall, al.
the while. at least for some distance
obliquing to the left, with his pistol
down to bis side. That as well as be
recollects, he bowed to man on the
platform of a street car, whom he took
to be either the conductor or motor
man.
l am under the impression that
walked across the street car track at
the end Of a car which was standing
on it. Directly after I crossed the
track on Main street, Policeman Bo-
! land came up to me. l still had my
pistol down at my side. | do not re-
collect all that was said by Mr. Boland
or by me. but think his statement,as
! to what occurred is near about right.
| recollect Policeman Boland asking
for my pistol, but did rot wish to give
il up until he assured me that should
be protected, as stated to him, l did
not wish to be butchered up.
I think I was about midway, oppo-
site the city hall, when this occurred.
I then turned to go with Policeman
Boland to the station house, and after
turning the city hall corner, going
down GerraiS street, my brother-in-
.aw Judge Buchanan came rushing up
and asked what was the matter. l said
to the policeman that he was my
brother-in-law, and he then accompa-
MED US to the police station.
The magazine Of my pistol had been
broken for some time, and as was de-
sirous of having it repaired before re-
turning home, asked Mr.. Fred. Dom
mick on Wednesday to take 1t to Mr..
W. +. StieglitZ's gun shop and have 1t
fixed for me-being then engaged IN
my official duties at the State house.
and did not have time to go to the
gunsmith's. He said nothing to me
about the magazine until the next
morning. when he asked me for the
pistol, saving he had to take it to
Stieglitz to put the magazine in. / do
not know at what time he took the
pistol to Stieglitz nor when he brought
it TO my room at the State house. lie
told me some time during the morn
ing that he had left the pistol in my
room.
I do not own Prince Albert frock
coat, nor have l worn one since my
arrival in the City of Columbia. l
neither had on Prince Albert coat on
Tuesday. Jan. Il, 1908, nor did I have
a pistol in my bip pocket, nor did |
stop on Main street near the steel
building and ''look up and down the
street as if expecting some one to
pass" I was not looking for any one
in whom was interested to pass me.
The atfiant F. W. Smith I am inform
ed is a boy u years old, and Vedder
Zimmerman about the same age.
l do not recall meeting Mr.. S. t. D.
Lancaster on the l4th day OF January,
1908, but if he did see me, he could not
have seen a pistol ''sticking out from
the (my) rear coat pocket as | did
not have a pistol with me-the only
pistol had in Columbia being broken
as above stated.
That Mr. S. J. Young may be correct
when he states he saw me about II
feet from the inside Of the pavement
and l may have had my pistol eleya-
ted. I know I did not have it pointed
at Y. G. Gonzales, but / was looking
at him, momentarily expecting him to
fire upon me, and when he did not do
so I lowered it to my side.
In reference to the statement Of ar
ledge Lyles who, ! have been informed
is a boy about y or II years Of age, |
do know that after having fired and
the fire not being returned, lowered
nv pistol, as by that time Senator
Talbird got between me and Mr.. Con
Zales. l do not remember saying: "4 ou
will let me alone now.' | do know
that I did go as 4Arledge Lyles says
across the street, obliquing, looking IN
the direction where the difficulty oc-
CURED and at Mr.. Gonzales, until |
got to the street car track and crossed
it, and it was about this time that
Policeman Boland came up.
I do not know Mr.. c. N. Lide, who
states be was walking behind Mr.. Con
zales and in the same direction Mr..
Lide states: That he referring to
mel maintained that position with his
hands in his overcoat pockets until
Just before he had fired the shot Eere-
inafterwards described. He also
states: when just as he Gonzales
was going around the three, on the IN
side of the pavement, Tillman being on
the outside of the three, and near the
outer edge of the pavement and hav-
ing both his hands in his overcoat
pockets, the latter (that is Tlllman)
suddenly fired his pistol. My over
coat has no front side pockets, and 1t
was therefore a physical impossi5ility
for me to have my hands in my over
coat pockets-the only pockets IN my
said overcoat being in each tail OF the
rear of said coat, and l had pair OF
gloves in my left hand, both hands oe-
ing by my side. This statement beg
to verify by the coat which is IN the
possession of the sheriff.
As to the atfdavits of Abram Brown
"a colored MANI and of August Schied-
emun. the same are not true in so far
as they conflict with the statement
now made and heretofore made, and
which is corroborated by the atlidavits
Of Melton c. Lorick, and W. H. Hall.
and that of Richard II. Holsonbacl;e.
l have only to say in reference to the
attidayit OF Mrs. Emma G.. Melton that
the lady is mistaken in the position in
which she places me on the Sidewalk;
| know nothing, of course, neither had
any nowlcdgc up to that time, and