The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-08-26


 900 offer was made? A. He never offered it to the committee, Mir. Mcintyre, but he said to me that he would take it-his offer to the committee was s11.O00.
 c. Well was 1t after he made that offer to the committee that he proposed to give you $500 to help him sell it? A. Yes sir.
 Q. After the si1,OOo offer? A Yes sir.
 Chairman: He offered you $500, after he had asked the committee $l1,o00? When was it he told you he would take $l0,O00? A. Prior to his cffer to the Committee of the s11 1,O00. He first said to me-in the conversation in refer ence to his gravel pit, he said that he would take $10,0OO for the gravel pit, and then he afterwards made a bid of $1i 900 to the Committee.
 Q. Now when was 1t he made the prop osition to you, to help him sell it, of $500? A. After he made this offer of s11,Oo0.
 O. He made you the proposition of $500. Now. MT. Ford just state to us the terms of that proposition; did he go into details about 1t? A. No, sir, no more than I have already stated.
 Q. He said he would give you s5GO to help him sell the pit. A. If I would rec ommend to the Committee the purchase of his gravel pit.
 Q. Didn't say anything about when the gravel pit was bought-was purchased by the City Council. Did he say after his purchase money was received from the city? A. Didn't say anything about that.
 Q. It was to be paid when the city pur- chased the gravel pit? A. Yes, sir.
 c. What reply did you make. Mir. Ford? A. I told him that I was an em- ploye of the city, and that the whole amount that he would get for his gravel pit would not influence me one way or the other; that I didn't care to have any thing of the sort said. In the first place told him that he was certainly Joking that he didn't mean what he said. He said. I am in earnest about 1t, propose to give you $500. 1 said We'll you don't know what you are talking about--go on off.
 Q. Did he ever reiterate that offer? A. Yes, sir.
 c. When did he make the offer the second time? A. My recollection Is that 1t was in March-the next month. Q. He in the meantime had put Tn his bid for $l1,0O1? A. Yes, sir. Q. State the conversation that occurred between you and MT. Carter when this second offer was made. A. MT. Carter, if you remember. the Committee didn't re- port to the Council, and after the Com- mittee failed to report, MT. Carter came l to my office, called me outside in the hallway and said: I want your help in selling this pit, and 1 want you to take this $10O and l will give you the balance | when the Council purchases this pit. .. One hundred dollars; dld he have | the hundred dollars? A. Yes, sir. c. Was it in bills, or checks? A. In money.
 c. Nobody was present, presume? A. No, sir.
 Q. You say this was in March? A. Yes, sir.
 c. What did you say in reply to that, Mir. Ford? A. Mir. Carter even tired to | put 1t in my pocket. told him to go off, | that l didn't propose to have anything to do with him; that l would not help him sell the gravel pit if the city never got a gravel pit.
 Q. That occurred just outside of your office? A. Yes, sir. | c. Did he ever, on a subsequent Occa- sion, make any offer? A. No, sir. | c. That was the last time? A. Yes. sir. Q. Now you say that you had a conver- sation with MT. Jones, this was in March | that you had that conversation with MT. Jones? A. Well, it was somewhere about that time. 1 am not positive. | Q. Did MT. Jones give you the details | of the conversation or the offer MT. Car ter made-offered him? A. No, sir. | Q. Just told you the offer had been made? A. Yes, sir. | e. And you then told him that the of fer had been made to you? A. Yes, sir. | o. Did you inform the Committee or any member of it about thIs use of money that was attempted to be made? A. l did not.
 | Q. Did you ever inform the Mayor un- til this was passed? A. did not. | o. Now MT. Ford, how much, in your | iudgn1ant So Mir tx nd ona- hal lt acres of gravel worth? A. About 800 c. How much are the Improvements worth? The railroad and ali: A. Track you'd cost about $1,5O0 or $1,700, and the fill, think it would cost somewhere be. tween $l, 50 and $2,OO0 without making an estimate of It.
 | Q. So roughly you would estimate his gravel pit at about 5000? A. Yes, sir. | Chairman-Did the Committee ever come to you for information as to the value of the gravel pit? A. MT Roeder came over into my office afte I had made this survey, and made crosi | section. taking an elevation across thli hill, and l told him what I had fount there.
 Q. What did you tell him-how mucl clay gravel you thought was there? A.
 told him I thought between five and si1 | acres.
 
 Q. Did you ever take the dimensions O the ground proposed to be sold by MT Carter? O. Only of the gravel hill. l c. Didn't take the dimensions of an! other ground. A. No, sir. At the time
 made the survey of the hill, the entir, hill was surrounded by water. l Q. You don't know, then, whether ther,
 are five, ten, fifteen or twenty acres? A | Yes sir; l know that on this hill tha
 there Is not quite ten and half acres il this hill-I made the survey of this hill Q. I suppose you have got a record O
 that survey in your office? A. I have, si T have got plat.
 Q. Did you ever give the committee ar
 estimate of the cost to remove the dir
 before they could get to the clay gravel A. No. sir; I did not. I stated at on, time to MT. Whatley, as my recollection
 now, that 1t would cost a good deal tt
 do the stripping.
 l MT. Mcintyre: Did you ever state tC
 the committee, or to any member of thu | Council whether or not this price wa l excessive, or whether or not 1t was req sonable? A. stated that to MT. Gun ter.
 Q. What did you state, that it was ex | cessve or reasonable. A. That l though the price was too large, and that be lieved they would take less money for 1t
 o. You appeared before the commit
 tee, I suppose, at different times? A | Yes. sir; and went with the committee tC
 the different gravel pits. l Q. Well. did any of the committee evel I ask you your opinion as to the value o this gravel pit of MT. Carter? A. No, sir
 they did not.
 | O. Did you ever volunteer any state | ment as to what you thought was the