The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-06-03

O.-And it occurs to you now that agents
name was Smith? Ayes. sir:
Q.-The same name as this fellow that
called you up over the telephone? Al
think that is true.
Q.-Anyhow, you made an appointment
with a man that called you up over me
placing machines of some kind here TO meet
you at the committee rooms? Ayes, SIR
9.-At your political ONCE? Ao ~, SIR;
of Public Works? Ave don't meet In the
Office of the Board of Public Works on Sat-
urday.
Q.-And are you in the habit of attend
ing to the affairs of the city at your po-
litical Office? Al do sometimes attend 10
the affairs of the city at the committee
rooms.
Q.-You told him if he would come around
there you would see what you could do Tor
him? Ayes. sir.
Octave him the address and the num-
Der of the room? Ayes, sir.
Q.-You think you were little late In
getting there that morning? Al am not
sure but / think l was.
Ole waited TO talk to you until every
body else went out? Ayes. sir.
Q.-waited until you and he were alone?
Alphabetically alone, yes. sir.
Q.-And then he told you his name was
o.-And you asked him if he was the
Mr.. Smith that at, had called called you up over
Q.-And he told you he was? Ayes. sir.
Q-Then he told you he was representa-
tive of-nsming the firm-dealers in slot
O.-You knew very well what slot ma
chine was? Ayes. sir; / had seen slot
O.-And he told you he was trying to
place them here in the city Of Indianapolis.
didn't he? Ale told me he was having
some difficulty in placing them.
Q.-You knew 1t was against the law for
slot machines to be used in the city of In
dianapolis didn't you? Al understood so.
Q.-You understood 1t was a gambling
appliance? A.-That was my understand
Q.-And he told you he was having some
difficulty in placing them here In the city OF
Indianapolis. What did you say when he
made that statement to you? Al told
him he had got into the wrong place. ]
told him anything of that kind would have
Of Safety.
Ole told you he was having trouble
here i'm placing them? Ayes. sir.
Q.-And wanted you to help him? Ale
people he had talked to.
HEIER AND RAHKE
Odd he tell you who 1t was that re-
ferred you to him? Att occurs to me
that he referred to Mr.. Heller and Mr..
Rahke.
Q.-They are two well-known gamblers
in the city of Indianapolis. are they not?
Al think so. yes. sir.
Ozone of them has place within
stones throw of the police station7 A
/ understand he has a place near here.
Q-Do you know where Gus Rahkes
place Is? A.-No; think it is out by the
fair ground.
Ayes. sir.
Q.-How long have you known him? A.
Il have known him good many years: he
used to be a precinct Committeeman.
Q-Pretty good friend Of Gus's are you?
Al cannot say we are on particularly
Q-But you and he have rubbed up to-
gcther as precinct committeeman? Al
don't know that we have worked together.
Ole told you those two fellows recon-
mended him to you as the proper person
to come to to get protection from. Ayes.
Odd he mention any other names? A
He didn't mention names; he said several
had referred him to me.
Q.-After receiving recommendations of
that kind from these gentlemen, what did
you say to him? Al told him / didn't
know anything about the slot machine bust
ness; didn't think there were any running
in the city.
ject? A.-Only what read in the papers.
Q.-You didn't read in the papers that
Gus Rahke was running right straight
along, did you?
Objected to by Mr.. Spaan.
Objection sustained.
Q.-What else was said after the CONVEX
sation. as far as we have repeated it? A
Well, he went on to tell me he had quite
a little difficulty in different cities in plac-
ing his machines, and after awhile he would
stumble on the right man and get his ma
chimes in and not have much more trouble.
Q.-What else? Ale said he Under
stood from what information he had been
able to obtain from different people that
!! was the man to see here; that their firm
didn't care to do business with only one
man; that they were going to open state
headquarters here. and a great many
H.
oasTax your memory MI MINE ,os uSh oe, and
let us have it. Ale said he felt from
what he had been able to learn that no
doubt IL would take the mater up they
would get their machines in here all
right.
Q.-what did you say to that? Al told
him 1 didn't know anything about that,
but thought in all probability it would
be a pretty hard thing to arrange.
Q.-What else did he say? Ale went
on to say If would devote my time and
sary to see, the firm would be willing to
pay pretty well for 1t. 1 asked him then
what their firm would be willing to pay
s ! ss5nk he said he thought thousand or
Q.-what did you say to that? Al
says, What DO you mean-a thousand or
$500.
Q.-what else? Ale said he thought
perhaps their firm would be willing to pay
1900 for say 200 machines, but he would
wire them and see.
IA<hED OF M.
Q.-And what else took place at that
time? Al think asked him IL he was
authorized to make contracts of that kind
or deals around in different cities on his
own discretion to what he would pay for
1t and he said he was. and to satisfy me
he was authorized and everything was
all right he would wire his firm and show
me the telegram.
AS 1 remember 1t I think 1 told him I
would have to see the proper authorities
and If he would call at certain date
named
Odd you tell him what you would
have to see them for? Ayes, sir.
Q.-What did you tell him you would
have to see them for? Al told him I
had no control over such things and didn't
know anything about IL and would see
Q.-See whether the matter could be
fixed? Ayes, sir
Q.-So that he could put in his machines?
A.-That was the inference.
Q.-What did you say to him about send
ing the telegram? Al told him / didn't
suppose he would send an open telegram.
Q.-And you were just toshing him when
you made suggestion of that kind? Al
don't know what you mean by the term
"toshing."
Q.-You thought you would lead him on?
Al thought so.
Q.-You said you thought he would not
send an open telegram? Ayes. sir.
Q.-The only thing that prompted you in
that suggestion was to keep up the CONVEX
sation? A.-No, sir.
Q.-What was your purpose? Al
thought he would do little talking him