The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-06-02

offer to bride him? Al didn't say that
1 don't believe there is case holding such
a doctrine unqualified
Q.-You simply don't believe it7 A.-That
is my best Judgment.
Q.-Now. then, If you had succeeded in
trapping your former friend, MIR. Logsdon,
didn't you believe that in this community
II would ruin his reputation? Al will
O.@Answer first and qualify afterward.
Say yes or no 10 that and then you can
make an explanation of IL. Ayes, L be-
lieved, of course, if Mr.. Logsdon were found
guilty of accepting money for the protee-
ton of gambling and the taxation of vice
1t would injure his reputation
Q.-And yet you and your associates had
QAAnd didn't intend to offer him any?
Awe were simply trying TO ascertain
whether he Odd you offer him any?
A.-No.
Q-And yet you were going to ruin his
reputation, were you. Your friend. Is that
right? Al will answer that question
OILS that right? Al cannot answer
until you quit talking.
OIL am not going 10 let you slip away;
answer that question please. A.-That was
not the purpose of the investigation. NO,
sir.
Q.-The purpose of the investigation was
not to hurt his reputation, was it? A.-The
purpose Of the investigation was TO I'M
cover crime In this city, III IL was pOsslDic
Q.-And yet you are now admitting there
was no crime to be committed by this man
if he had accepted it? A.There is diff
ference between crime and corrupt prac-
tees, Mr.. Span.
O-Therefore it was done to blacken his
character wasn't it? A.-No. sir; it could
not be construed that way. In fact, IT
would
Q-Has anybody asked you any question.
or do you still want to keep on answering?
You expected if this man had fallen into
that trap to have Immediately gone TO the
sir; intended to go to the investigating
committee at the proper time.
Q.-And up to that time you had admit
ted that you had no evidence against him,
didn't you? Al had no evidence against
Mr.. Logsdon, and / will say was
very much surprised when the leads took
the man to Mr.. Logsdon.
surprises. l am asking the question up 10
that time you had admitted you had no
evidence de t;n, against an Mr. L1gsdonE A-op 10
Cup to the time of the fake telegram.
Ale had information which looked de-
cidedly against him before that telegram:
put upon the witness stand. Ayes.
sir: at that time Mr.. Stabilize tele-
gram was arranged on Saturday night
after Mr.. Stahl had had an interview with
If I remember right No, / think / am
wrong about that. but the telegram was
had fixed the amount at l,5W.
DISCRIMINATION BY DUNCAN.
The witness was then cross-examined by
John s. Duncan.
Q-Mr. Noel. tell what IL anything, was
stated to you by the members of this
Council committee as to the scope which
would be allowed in the investigation be-
that took place between you and them?
AIN my first talk concerning employment
with Mr.. Wynne, who was chairman OF
the committee / said to him that / would
have nothing to do with the employment If
the scope of the examination was to be
limited, but if it was to be thorough in
vestigation, IL l were TO be given free
hand to uncover any corruption that /
might come across in my search for evil
dence, / would accept the employment. L
told him, however, did not want TO be
trammeled at critical time when might
have evidence, and would look to him and
the committee to stand by me. / believe
1 used the words that Mr.. Wynne must
have nerves of steel il we went into this
together.
Q.-What If anything, did that commit
tee have to do with any search you made
after evidence to be presented? A.-None
whatever.
Q.-What subjects had been presented to
that committee before, up to the time II
ceased to hold its meetings? A.-The sub
ject of the letting of the sprinkling con-
tract and of the sweeping contract in the
city of Indianapolis and the performance
of those contracts, the subject of the con-
tributions to the campaign funds of the
subject Of demands for campaign funds;
the subject OF the letting of franchises by
the city of Indianapolis, and 1 think that
is all. That is all / recollect now.
Q.-You stated that up to that time you
had not got 10 that part which related to
the protection of vice? A.-No, sir; may
add. Mr.. Duncan, that In my first or second
ing my employment, the subject of the coll
lection of campaign funds from these
sources was discussed.
Q.-What sources? A.-For the protec-
ton of vice, or the revenues from the pro-
lection of vice, and gambling was discussed
and was also in my mind, and L think In
Mr.. Wynne's. as one of the subjects that
were TO be investigated IL We found evil
dence.
Q.-what obstacles. if any. did you meet
in your effort to attempt to procure testi-
mony to be presented to that committee?
Objected to by Mr.. Span.
Q.-What led you to resort 10 the methods
that you did in this case?
SPANS OBJECTIONS.
Objected to by Mr.. spaan. Objection
sustained to the question without limita-
ton as to time.
Q.-During your employment by this COM
mittee for the purpose Of procuring and
presenting testimony to it in reference to
the tax on vice and gambling and the COL
lection of political campaign funds from
gamblers and harlots-
Objected to by Mr.. Span.
The court sustained the objection with
out limitation of time after his employ
ment.
Q.-You went over to st. Louis. did your
Ayes, sir.
Odd you have a conversation with Mr..
Folk? Ayes, sir.
Q.-what was that conversation?
Objected to by Mr.. Span.
The Court-So far as the conversation. the
or not he asked him to offer bride to any,
one Mr. Noers answer was that he did
not. Any part of the conversation, Mr..
Noel. that applies TO that direct answer,
that will explain that. you may answer
Mr.. Spaan-What explanation can there
be of No.
Q-what advice did Mr. Folk give you ?
Objected to by Mr.. Spaan because IL was
not In reference TO bribing.
The Court-Unless there is something in
the conversation that will impeach, refute.
or explain, the court will have 10 rule out
that conversation.
Mr. Duncan.-The court cannot rule on IL
until we have heard it.
The court sustained the objection to the
question in that form.
Q.-How long a conversation did you have
with Mr.. Folk at that time? Al had two
conversations, lasting possibly an hour,
both of them.
Q.-How did you come to employ Mr.
Stahl? A.-The employment was through
Mr.. Folks suggestion. / had written Mr.
Folk prior 10 that time. In this conversa-
ton had related
L. g. A.