The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-08-26

1t from one end to the other. made q thorough examination of 1t, they seemed pleased with 1t, and told me that the city needsd 1t the worst kind. told me about hauling dirt from the western part of the town and filling up these holes. and they said the certainly needed 1t. needed a pit. and they thought that was the proper pit to have.
 MT. Lobman: Have you ever in any form. shape or manner tried to influence unduly any alderman in this Council in the purchase of this pit? A. have not.
 Q. Have you ever offered any one of them any inducement7 A. No.
 Q, Does any one of them from any, thing you have said have reason to be- lieve that they will get anything on the sale of this pit? A. No The first I heard of that, Mir. Gunter, was here a short while ago. I came Into town l think last Friday. I understood that l was to get 5000 and the eight aldermen that voted for 1t were to get the other acording ito the rumors that were afoot
 Q. Who told you of that rumor, who made that assertion to you? A. I think 1t was Colonel Wiley. sir. | Q. Did you ever make that assertion to any one? A. No. sir.
 o. When that remark was made to you, did you deny 1t? A. I said that the man who said so was liar--that is what said to be plain-if you will ex- cause the language.
 Mir. Mcintyre: Did anybody admit thas he said 1t? A. I have not found the man. l thought would find out from the Ian. guage who did say 1t.
 v. From anything that you had said l to MT. Ford and MT. Jones, would they have had reason to believe that on the purchase by the city of your pit that they would receive money compensation? A. No. sir; they would not.
 Q. Win they receive any compensation A. They will not.
 Q. Will anyone else receive compen- sation-Alderman? A. They will not.
 Q. Or city official? A. They will not.
 Q. Has any Alderman made any over- lures to you on the sale of this pit? A.. No more than you have, sir.
 Q. How much have I? A. None in the world, sir; or MT Mcintyre or Mir. Lobman.
 Mr. Mcintyre: Or any other Alderman7 2 A, Or any other Alderman.
 City Attorney: Did Mir. Ford along about the time of your bid to the city, to sell your gravel pit for s11,ooo did Mir. Ford and you have any conversation out In front or near his office door in the cor- ridor of the city building, in which con- versation you made any offer In money whatsoever to Mir. Ford to assist you in consummating the sale of your proper ty to tn ecity? A. None whatever.
 Q. We'll. did you go to Mir. Ford's door, or to the door of his office any time along in the latter part of the winter or early spring whilst this proposition was pending, and call him out? A. We fur nished the city with a few car loads of gravel to repair these streets with,; the city paid 1t; the clerk has got that; I have a little business more or less here that way.
 Q. But you did not go to Mir. Ford's door and call htm out and have a con- versation with respect to the sale of your gravel pit to the city? A. have not.
 Q. You did not at any time, upon any occasion whatsoever, make any offer of money or other thing of value to any employe of the city of Montgomery to use their influence with members of the Council, or otherwise. to assist you in the sale of your property to the city? A. No, sir.
 Mir. R. E. Steiner (counsel for MT. Carter): Mir. Carter, did you ever em- ploy an attorney even to assist you in the sale of this property. A. Never, sir. | c. Were you present in the City Coun ell when they took the vote upon the pur- chase of your gravel pit? A. The committed?
 Q. No, when the Council voted on 1t the other night? A. No, sir.
 c. You were not even present? A. No.
 Q. Who was present at the gravel pit when Ford and Jones were there at the time you were there? A. John Det- wiler and Norwood Johnson. and, think. MT. George Wilson, and a good many of my negroes there. but don't mention them.
 Q. Did you ever, at any time, offer Mir. Ford or Mir. Jones anything what ever to assist you in the sale of this gravel pit? A. have not, sir.
 Q. Did you ever authorize anybody else to do 1t? A. did not, sir. q
 Q. Did anybody ever tell you about how many years that gravel pit would last the cIty7 A Major German told me that 1t would gravel six or eight towns like the city of Montgomery; he went out there and inspected 1t.
 Q. Are you familiar with the other gravel pits offered to the city? A. With some of them; with the Gibson pit I am.
 Q. Do you know anything about the Marks pit? A. know the county bought some of it and spread upon the road. and they did not consider 1t as good as the other-from the McLemore pit.
 Q. How far is the Marks pit from Montgomery? A. About eight miles.
 Q. A side track into 1t. A. None whatever.
 O. Any provision to get the gravel out of 1t? A. None whatever. 0. How far is your gravel off from Montgomery? A. About four miles the way they have to go--not quite three J Q. Could deliver at once? A. This evening. sir.
 l Q. How much did 1t cost you to get in that condition? A. The grade and the track and everything. 5000, about that. probably more. probably a little less:
 Q. Now. did you ever in person, or through anybody else. offer anything whatever to any member of the City | Council to support the ordinance to buy your gravel pit? A. I did not sir. Q. Did you yourself ever try to per- suade any member of the City Council to buy the gravel pit, other than to tell them the quality and quantity of gravel | you had in 1t? A. Yes, all of them came out there, and hearing they were coming out there I tried to show them all the courtesy that I could, and took Nose Hudson out there in my bugy. | Q. In your opinion, how long would | the gravel in that pit last the city of Montgomery? A. I think fifty years or longer.
 Y How long have you been engaged In the gravel business? A. About eight or nine years,
 Q. Did Mir. Jonss or Ford tell you what they thought of the quantity and quality of the gravel you had in that | pit? A Told me that it was good. | Q. Tell you 1t was as good as any they