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Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
FORMATION OF GOLD NUGGETS.
Experiments sn Laboratory show
How Nature May Have Produced
Lump of Precious Metal.

That gold is formed from solution Is
generally recognized The miner re-
reives the theory because it explains the
making of gold to him, but he often Won
ders how it is done, so here is what has
been seen: Daintree once prepared a
solution of gold and left in IL small
piece Of metallic gold. Accidentally a
small piece of wood fell into the solu-
ton; the solution decomposed, the gold
assumed a metallic state and collected
and held to the small piece of undis-
solved gold, which increased in size. An
other investigator. says Mines and Min
erals. heard of this and made a dilute
gold solution, In which he immersed a
piece of iron pyrites and left 1t there
month. He added also organic matter,
and at the months end the pyrites were
Powered with a film of metallic gold
Pyrites and galena were next tried, and
each was covered with gold. Gold, cop
per pyrites. arsenical pyrites, galena
wolfram were also tried with similar re-
suits. Metallic precipitates were tried,
and while they threw down the gold as
o metallic powder they did not cause II
TO cohere nor to plate any of the sub
stances tried. Organic matter thus
seemed the necessary chemical agent
Through the wood used in theseexpsri-
mants gold was disseminated in hnt
particles imagine those experiment.
conducted by nature through ages anc
tho result could be a nugget.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
DO NOT WAIT ON PENNsY

The Cumberland Valley railroad
company has adopted a new rule, that
of not waiting for the Pennsylvania
connection, when it is delayed, at
Harrisburg. and as a result their pas.
senger trains which have been greatly
delayed in the past, are now arriving
on time. Train No, Tin the nast was
generally delayed on account of wait
ing for the connection but now the
only thing that holds it is the block at
Inters- stion, if such the case NAV be.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
MARCH 8.
VIA ATLANTIC COAST LINE.

Tickets including, in addition to
round trip railroad fare, sleeping car
accommodations and meals en-route
Washington to Jacksonville, but not
for 1.-THE return. Returning tickets
will be good on any regular train I'M
til May 81, 1904.
For detailed information call upon
Baltimore & Ohio Ticket Agents.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

A north Missouri paper asks: who
Is the happier, tho man who possesses
800 900 or the man who has seven
daughters?" To which another exchange
replies The man with the surplus
girls, Of course, says the st. Louis Post
Dispatch The man with the money
is not satisfied, and wants more. The
man with the seven daughters il salts
nad-he has enough"
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
kUCTIONEERlNG

Having procured licence for auctioneer-
ing. respectfully solicit share of the
public patronage in that line. | will cry
sales on per centage or lump the Job
NV charges shall be reasonable and salts.
ton guaranteed.
E. r. HENSON.
6-II-7r Bunker Hill, w Va.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
NOTICE:
Mayors Office,
Marsiusburg, w. Va,
November ~ Io9z.

- T-
November ~. 1909
10 Joanna Sullivan.
This IS to notify you that the pavement in front Of
your properly Hooge Street, IN the city Of Mar.
tnsburg, Is IN bad stats Of repair and eondtf on
and that at meeting Of the Council OF the Corpora
ton Of Martin burg. held the LIST day Of October
loo3, the undersigned wss authorized and empowered
innamelcf said cor2oraton to notify andequire you
70 repair and InpToy~ the condition Of said pavement
within 30 days Of date hereof. in the following
nef: by eveIng same of putting in good wood or
stone curb and then filing same up with cinder or
crushed stone
II al the expiration Of the time above stated,
the SAID repairs and improvements shan not have
been made. The Council Of The Corporation or Mar
hnsburg will cause the same to be done at the ex-
pense Of said Corporation and assess the amount OF
such expense upon you under and by virture Of the
chapter Of said corpofat en ard the said poration
will coilett the smoant Of such assessment in the
manner provided by Law
A. r. LAMBERT. Clerk
Of she Corp rpation Of &arlinsburg.
Ir-zI-3 wk
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
NOTICE.

To WHOM 1T MAY CONCERN Please take notice that
he undersigned has qualified as administrator Of Sam
ue1 r. Powell deceased, all persons knowing them
selves be indebted to the estate Of said defendant
will forward and make prompt payment of
same, and any one having any Slain .ainst said
estate will please present same. properly authenti-
Gated for payment. w Il. POWELL.nI-7-4t-I wk
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

IN 500 the value Of Boston 8 products
of manufactures, viz, s206. 1881, 769, ex-
ceeded by s2l 99l 263, or lit per cent,
the value Of It's foreign trade. Boston
in 1898, according to the state census of
that year, was the second agricultural
town In the state, owing to the high value
Of its greenhouse and garden products.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
FEBRUARY 9.
VIA SOUTHERN RAILWAY.

Tickets including, in addition to
round trip railroad fare, sleeping car
accommodations and meals en.route
Washington to Jacksonville Return
ing leave Jacksonville February 2L
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
ELECTI0s NOTICE.

The stockholders Of be Old National Bank Of
Mannsbure are hereby notified that the annual
ectlOn taf Directors 70 the ensning v ar
viii be held The Bank on TUE DAY, JANUf RY
~, 1904, between tile HOURS OF e even and twelve
O'Clock GRO. 5. HILL,
l2i2-lt Ca hier.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
SPECIAL TOURS TO FLORIDA.
Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Via WASH
ington AT Very Low Rates.
JANUARY 20.
VIA SEAB0aRD AIR LINE.

Tickets including, in addition to
round trip railroad fare. sleeping car
accommodations and meals en-route
Washington to Jacksonville and re-
tnrn. Returning, leave Jacksonville
February 10.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

During tho middle ages gunpowder.
clocks. telescopes, parchment. paper
and the mariners compass were invent
ed or adopted.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
ESTRAY NOTICE.

black hog with four white feet and white star
in .rehead, weight about Zoo pounds. Came to my
place Rosepont, about six weeks ago, Owner can
have same by proving property and paying
III At GEORGE ROUSH.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
STOCKHOLDERS MEETING.

The stockholders Of the Citizens National Banl
Of Martinsburg hereby notified thar the annua
election for Directors serve for the ensuing yea
will be held at the Bank on
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

More than one-third OF the inmates OF
the Elmira IN. " state prison are well
educated
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

There were $500 American tourists
Ga Switzerland last summer.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12
Tuesday, the rath Day of January,

1904 between the hoBrs 81 twelve and one O'Clock,
p. N. EDWARD RUTL LEDGE,
12-12 Cashier.
Martinsburg herald. [volume] (Martinsburg, W. Va.) 1881-1920, 1903-12-12

American shoe stores are being opened
In all the cities OF Germany.
The Sumpter miner. [volume] (Sumpter, Or.) 1899-1905, 1903-12-16
Three. Tunnels
Started

D d
SIN o be e
>~sSAA1@S
back tfeCR YhSw
selling
S for Ss and when that @ %ms M @ % intend s"% TIKI
investors O OF
s % wGss % &c. Ssa fate They
When
your
b
" sSsyouE.s u~oada his truth.
Thenwh otappecat tnOw?
uiwstn 10 and the OF the Cracker
ahea whhe Athmutul land the rewadw will h worthy
Ahom checks
The Sumpter miner. [volume] (Sumpter, Or.) 1899-1905, 1903-12-16
The Cracker
Jack
o,k~~co x1,a ~

T tunnels t on Cks Two
aft4d W b The "
i
p 70 M
wtMen low ,od~ ~~ ~~ money he the da of rsahes thar nbl
hepke nd receive less tina secure
The Sumpter miner. [volume] (Sumpter, Or.) 1899-1905, 1903-12-16

uoupd o "a mucht t recommend
q cor The h"youne'
enhance t CEILING price s At 4 Ss %n %Sn&
but these too ltr
has bee done % 70 h in mi a aOevnp pope
mansH nda 70 story yin
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

WAsHINGToN, d.. c., Jan. o.
The latest move on the political
chess board is the determination of
Senator Stephen B. Elkins and the
five Congressman from West Vir.
ginia, together with the loyal aid of
various other members of the nation
al Congress TO push Senator Nathan
Bay Scott, of West Virginia, as a
cabinet officer, for the head of the
Commerce department, to be estab.
lished. a prominent u. S. Senator
in speaking of the proposed appoint
ment last night said, "West Virginia
is entitled to the appointment, for
the recognition of the great successes
of the Republicans in that State IN
the last few years. Senator Scott
is eminently qualified for the posi-.
ton. He has already had to deal
with many of the questions that will
come under the control Of that de
partment. Besides West Virginia
will have more interest in that de.
partment when established than any
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
Unconscious From CrOup.

During the sudden aud terrible
attack of Group our little girl was
UNCONSCIOUS from strangulation,
says A. l.. Spafford, postmaster,
Chester, Mich, and dose of One
Minute Cough Cure was admins
tered and repeated often. 1t re-
duced the swelling and inhamma.
ton, cut the mucus and shortly
the child was resting easy and
speedily recovered. 1t cures
Coughs, Colds, LaGrippe, and all
Throat and Lung troubles. One
Minute Cough cure fingers in the
throat and chest and enables
the lungs to contribute pure,
health-giviug oxygen to the blood.
w. M. Bloss, Ceredo; r. N. Will
liams, Keuova.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
Laurel is Chosen.

The total vote on the choice of a
State flower has been computed at
the office of the Superintendent of
Free Schools and the following
totals have been announced:
Laurel, 1906; Honeysuckle,
3,431; Wild Rose, 3,244; Golden.
Rod, 2,o46; Apple Blossom, 1924;
Daisy l,2I0; Columbine, 558; Violet,
42o; White Clover, 19I; Arbutus;
il2; all others voted on, 1854.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
One Hundred Dollars n Box

Is the value ii A. Tisdale, Sum-
merton, S. g., places on DeWitt's
Witch Hazel SaIve. He saws: "I
had the piles for 20years. / tried
many doctors aud medicines but
all failed except DeWitt's Witch
Hazel Salve. 1t cured me-" 1t is
combination of the healing prop
critics of Witch Hazel with antisep-
tics and emollients; relieves and
permanently cures blind, bleeding,
itching and protruding piles, sores,
cuts, bruises, eczema, salt rheum
and all skin diseases. w. NJ.
Bioss, Ceredo; X. N. Willie ms,
Kenova.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
a Scientific Discovery.

Kodol does for the stomach that
which it Is unable TO do for itself,
even when but slightly disordered
or over loaded, KodoI supplies the
natural juices of digestion and
does the work Of the stomach, re-
laxIng the nervous tension, while
the iDflamed muscles of that organ
are allowed 10 rest and heal. Ko
dol digests what you eat and en-
ables the stomach and digestive
organs to transform all food into
rich, red blood. w. NJ. Bloss,
Ceredo; r. N. Williams, Kenova.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
Is Being Doomed by His Friends
For Cabinet Position.
This Would Land Hon. Jas. l..
Caldwell in the United States
Senate and Secure Har-
mOny i'm This State.

other state. Its timber, mines and
factories entities it TO the place and
will greatly AID the junior Senator
from West Virginia in securing the
portfolio"
1t Senator Scott should secure
this portfolio, it means that Hon.
j. l.. Caldwell, of Huntington, will
be the next United States Senator
from West Virginia, and it would
unite any disturbances that might
now be manifest in the party. Th e
prospects of Senator Scott getting
into the cabinet and Mr.. Caldwell
into the United States Senate. has
caused great sensation among the
West Virginians in Washington.
and considerable comment by other
members OF both the national houses
OF Congress. The passage Of the
bill establishing the department of
Commerce will now be doomed
stronger than ever, and especially
by the West Virginia delegation.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
NUMBER Z.
The Old and New Year.

AS we stand in its very thresh-
old which leads us to the border
land, and over ground we have
never set foot on before, we are in
the early morning of the new wear.
while yet before us 1t is still dark
ness. Wide are the fields we have
left behind, wide and very rough,
stony in places that should have
been smooth, barren in places
which might have hem fertile.
What kind of seed did you SOW?
What kind OF harvest did you
reap2
Did the weeds choke out the corn?
The after thought is past and
we have invoiced for another year.
Let us each while in its youth
take up tire spirii OF the new wear,
taking up the burdens it places
upon us, gong forward always
endeavoring to make each> day
that We live better than the list.
Then let US bid the new yeer (
welcome, and let the old year go.
While the years go rolling by,
each passing year has It's dark and
bright places, scattered like islands
In the sea, to which we are ever
turning our attention in the years
to come.
What is memory but feeling as
we once felt?
OF courss we welcome this
change or action of our mind as
the only true type Of life. What
kind of life, would life really be
If we had no change of circum-
stances. Experience, the life of
reason, would die. Life is not all
Life is net all shadow
or sorrow. But just enough of
both to make a contrast which in,
the eyes of some is beautiful, while
to others life is simply burden,
too hard to be borne.
But ah! dear reader, life is Just
what we make it.
Let us as we are standing On the
rugged heights of year Just gone
out and are now looking into the
new one, call all our forces of
strength together and press to-
wards the goal and the prize at
the end of the contest. Let this
be our motto: "For God and tor
the right" J. W..
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
Municipal Election.

The annual municipal election was
held on the first day OF the new year.
Only one ticket The iiizens' Ticket
was voted for, the result being the
election of the following: DR.. J. f..
York, Mayor; G.. w. Whipple,
Recorder; }. l.. Reh, JAS. Hogan,
John kilcoyne, f. b Elswick and Z.
Is. Joliet, Councilmen.
a petition was circulated before
the election to have the following
ticket placed on the ballot:
PROGRESSIVE CITINENs' TICKET.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

The crowned heads of every nation,
The rich men, poor men and misers
All join liz paying tribute to
DeWItt's Little Early Risers.
II. Williams. San Antonio, Tex,
writes: Little Early Riser Pills
are the best 1 ever used in my
family. l uDhesitatingly recon-
mend them to everybody. They
cure Constipation, Billlousness,
% OK Headache, Torpid Liver,
Jaundice, Malaria and other liver
torubles. w. M. Bloss, Ceredo; r.
N. Williams, Kenova.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

WITH Republican majorities in
both houses Of Congress there is
reason TO believe that the numerous
and irrational antitrust bills will be
condensed and revised until one
rational and businesslike law shall
have been evolved,
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

by the housewives of kenova an d
coffee by Jesse Lambert.
Ar the Semi-annual election OF
officers OF Red Cross Lodge No.
llS, h. of =, the following were
pIacfol.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

n CAREFUL canvass of the Demo
Gratis in Congress reveals the fact
that seventeen distinct varieties of
Democrats are required for the next
Presidential nominee.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

For Mayor,
X II. johnson.
For Recorder,
f.. {. V ollmer.
For Councilmen,
A. l.. Jackson,
w. l.. Bayless,
John Kettel.
w. G. Payne,
G. B. j Jollett.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

This ticket did not appear on the
ballot and G.. w. Peters swore out a
warrant against Becorder Whipple
Chairman of the Ballot Commission
ers) on the morning of the election
for failing to place the said ticket
on the ballot. The case came up
before Squire j. II. Lambert and
the Recorder was bound over to the
Grand Jury in the sum of $500,
Mayor York being his bondsman.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

Mrs. Johanna SoderhoIm, of
Fergus Falls, Mimi, fell and dis
located her shoulder. She had a
surgeon get it back in place az
soon as possible, but it was quite
sore and panied her very much.
Her son mentioned that he had
seen Chamb berlain's Pain Balm ad-
vertised for sprains and sores,
and she asked him to buy her q
bottle OF 1t, which he did. 1t
quickly relieved her and enabled
her to sleep which she bad moi
done for several days. The son.
was so much pleased with the re.
lief 1T gave bis mother that he bss-
since recommended it to M
others. For sale by w. M.
Ceredo; K. N. Williams, II
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

THERE is considerable merit in
the proposition of Senator Scott to
inquire into the advisability of
granting pensions to all soldiers of
the civil war who served ninety days
or more. His proposition contem-
plates cutting of several millions of
dollars for clerk hire, pension ex.
aminers and the employment of high
salaried medical experts, all of which
would go toward making up the in.
creased appropriation for the veter-
ans. The resolution is worthy of
serious consideration.-C'harleston ston
Mail.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT MAHRR
Is soon to leave the Ssaboard Air
Line railroad TO become general
superintendent of the Norfolk d
Western, with headquarters at Ros-
noke, virgiuis.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

VIRGINIA, having adopted a new
constitution, finds an amendment
necessary.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

Lots OF fellows have more money
than brains, and not so much money
at that.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

The fellow with the gift of CAB il
apt to give himself away.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

The straight and narrow path is
the one always taken by the tight
rope walker.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14
SECRETARY Hay has again demon.

strated bis right to be known as the
greatest American diplomat.
Ceredo advance. [volume] (Ceredo, W. Va.) 1885-1939, 1903-01-14

IT begins to loe2u
President CL
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
India Linens

Our line Of India linens is complete in every
detail, ranging in price from sc to 60c a yard
The goods are all round thread and plain
weave, imported direct from the MANCHES-.
TER MILLS. But they, too, must 60,
FhoFrs sSTi iss5 6FF f, Saa "'s Less than Cost
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Pure Linen Danask

This is where we SHINE. To be able to
bring about such pronounced economies as
these are achievements OF which any firm
might feel proud, for LINENS are as staple as
the bread you eat or hinges on a barn door.
following prices will convince you that the
above is no idle dream
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Dress Trimmings

Appliques, galoons Cluney's Venice me
dallions and serpentine vale in all the latest
scrolls and weaves, ranging in price from 10c
to $3.50 yard this entire line must go at
ONE-HALF regular price, SO help yourself
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30

Our 25c line OF batistes, dimities, organdies
Swisses and Arabian lawns less the HIGH
PRICE ATTACHMENTS, so here / 0I/n
they are at per yard. ......,,... Inv
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
PerCaleS

81 inches wide, all pretty new patterns in
stripes and figures. regular value Zoe per o.
yard anniversary sale price ....... OO
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Muslin Underwear

We have one Of the complete lines Of muslin under
In the Indian Territory made from choice collection
o imported nansooks, long 9TH Swiss aud fine canhric
nt the time Is here celebrate anniversary sac
cut theu loose fourth off the regular marked price
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Straw r1atting

We have only few rolls left, and during
this sale We will clean them up and out at ex-
act cost. If you need mating il will pay you
to see our line.
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30

Percales 80 inches WIDE all fast colors and
new patterns and the best wearing materials
for skirts and dresses, REGULAR price 1 n
15c yard sale price e.............l W
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Embroideries

Our entire line OF embroideries, both Swiss
aud Hamberg 60 at 0NE-FOURTH OFF dur.
ing this sale. This places them within the
reach of all.
The Vinita weekly chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1902-1905, 1903-07-30
Silks

\ We have just received large assortment Of
lRAW and WASH JAP SILKS suitable for
Shirtwaist and serpentine skirts and we have
put the knife in them, reducing our 75c line
to soc and our Soc line to 65e yard. These
silks are p and 36 inches wide, and to say
|. they are the latest is placing it mildly indeed.
The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1903-08-07
on1plainants.
THE MERCHANTS
ASSOCIATION BUSY

The directors of the Merchants Asso-
citation held a melting yesterday after
matters of interest, The committee on
public affairs was directed to take up
the preparation of the memorial asked
for by Delegate Kuhio. The memorial
will be reported back to the Asso-
citation before any final action is taken.
There was also a discussion of the
transports in connection with the
coming of the Sheridan tomorrow. The
Association is endeavoring to arrange
with the coal dealers SO that the trans
port will be given coal at the price
which was offered Major Devol and Sec
cretary Root. Though the agreement
has not been ratified the Association
is DESTROYS of having a uniform price
established which will be effective at
once
There was some discussion also of the
mosquito question with view to as
sisting in the campaign started by the
Board of Health, but no definite action
was taken. In this connection the
question of publicity" was considered
and a meeting has been called for this
afternoon ait which members of the
hpress and correspondents are to be in
,vited to discuss the matter