New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1903-08-04
P0ULS0N PLAN HEARING.
NAY TRY 1T ON BRIDGE
LindeRthoI to Consider Recommend
ing to B. r. T. to Try 1t.


st, Brooklyn. on the PoJlson plan for relieving
the congestion at The Manhattan terminal OF
the bridge. All these organizations Endorsed
the plans presented by Nes Poulson, president
Of the Hecia Iron Works. At the end Of the
hearing Commissioner Lindenthal said ne would
like to see the plan tested. and promised 10 de-
eide in day two whether not he would
recommend 70 the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Conn
pany to make test of the Poulson plan.
Among those present were David Porter. presi-
dent of the Citizens Association of Bay Ridge
and Fort Hamilton; Max schron architect;
William T. Donneny, Of Faber-du-Faur &
Donnelly, engineers; J. c. Breckenridge, chief
engineer Of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Com
pany; William Barclay Parsons. chief engineer
Of the Rapid Transit Commission; Albert E.
Parftt; Archibald Mclean, of the Bridge De
partment: Silas 3. butcher and John B. Creigh-
ton, secretary of the Brooklyn League.
Commissioner Lindenthal, in opening the
hearing, said the use Of the bridge tracks had
been given TO the Brooklyn Rapid Transit
Company under an agreement with the city.
Last year, with a view to relieving the eonges-
ton, the Mayor appointed committee. includ-
ing William Barclay Parsons. J. c. Breckenridge
and George B. Post, who recommended the con-
struction OF four additional loops. These would
cost about 100000. and the expense would be
borne by the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company.
Commissioner Lindenthal approved the plan at
the time and il question whether il
should be done away with now. after about $4O.-
O0O or 1900 had already been spent It was
thought the four looD would be ready by next
Christmas. but Christmas was getting near and
the work was not half done. 1t Eas easy to
make plans but difficult to execute them. The
congestion was recognized, but it was diff
cult problem TO carry q plan to relieve it into
execution
Neils Poulson then presented his plan for re-
Neving the congestion at the Manhattan terml-
nal 1t is in part as follows:
THE PoULsoN PLAN.
The present trolley track and its four loops can
10 be built elevated so that people pass unoer
stop on The north side for un.oaaing go empty
over the elevated o9p and stop on tue souen sac
for unoaung loading without interIeI ing WIN
car coming sno going every thirteen seconds l0z
feet apart blockade CT say 1fseen cars Is Iasue
the blockade another car at the other end VIII
in he blockade. It viii take car (after II has
tered the blockade fifteen times thi4 teen seconds
or three minutes and fifteen seconds beioTe II
leaves at the othe: end gohg to Brooklyn; Inese
Tay one Gn aii an6 SECONDS for Unloading
car. minute and seconds 10 stand empty on the
ing; then instead OF car leaving every tai 1s
sGgac ~ rs ProP9Sea Eve 9 6adsa cars leave the
terminal every one minute and i've seconds. The
allowed over TIE bridge or about seven hundred aa
get eaeh minute the Fs5 car on me et nine h ana
dred feet in minute and the intervening cars
have travelled two minutes, or about the time the
st car has reached the bridge proper the nrst car
the third car 1900 feet, the fourth car 1900
The required l62 Ieet apart AID can proceed al the
regular speed allowed over the bridge. 200 feet in
The. advantages gained are as follows It can be
pense there viii be no tracks to c oss no cars to
dodge, the waiting space viii be increased from
coming and the outgoing passengers will be sepa-
rated. the time allowed for unloading and loading
will be more than doubled and. if wanted. the floor
can be raised TO be even with the PLATFORMS Of
the cars; Sc that the passengers avoid the high
step ms viii BE appreciated by any people.
70 come over he bridge twice as fast as thew do
now, there would be no trouble in handling all the
after the evil Of The trolley service has been
! floor 10 install four elevated trains of five cars
zach in addition 10 the elevated service upstairs
elevated passengers-those coming over the bridge
who would want 10 use the New-fork surface
ground floor: these wishing TO connect with the
on the upper aoor-thers would Be- ample room or
the Brooklyn elevated service 50 that oar
would only have TO step from one train u anotS
trains from going over t5e Fridre or the Brooklyn
trains from going over the New-York tracks.
TRIED AT BERGEN BEACH
Commissioner Lindenthal asked Mr. Poulsor
II he could mention an instance where the par
had been tried, and how il worked Nj Poul
son replied that the experiment had been tried
al Bergen Beach with empty cars.
In view only of such an experiment with
empty cars" asked Commissioner Lindenthal
10 you think l should adopt such system
where fifty million passengers are carried ever.
year? Each passenger will try to get ahead o
everybody else. Policemen cannot prevent Z
strong fellow from pushing the old womer
back"
Mr. Poulson declared that If the car that wal
wanted was not in, the passengers would lool
across the track and could tell whers the cal
would come IN.
THE passengers" retorted the Comniss' oner
would have to be more expert than no raj
road men are, 10 judge where car will come in
There is this advantage, if any. about the foul
loops. that each line has particular loop t,
60 to and the passengers know where the car
are coming in. The trouble is that the young
iusty passengers Will jump on the cars an,
push the weaker aside
Archibald Mclean criticised the Poulson plar
on the ground that there would be considera blt
time lost before a train Of five cars was made
up. He urged that when the train reached tn,
south loop on its way back to Brooklyn there
Nvould he the same confus o. now amo * h
passengers, as the caIs would not have al
exact space TO stop at Passengers would bunch
together when the cars came in, because Their.
were at least TWO passengers for each seat
A TEST OF IT PROPOSED.
Commissioner LlndenthaI said he would Tx.
10 come TO practical solution by testing III,
Poulson plan, and ne would like to refer thu
matter to q committee. consisting Of Archibald
Mclean J. c. Breckenridge and two or thre,
other engineers, 10 recommend 2 plan foI
working the troIeys under this system ant
give II test
1t Is necessary" cont nued the Comrniss oner
TO take the BroOklyn Rapid Transit Companv