The county record. [volume] (Kingstree, S.C.) 1885-1975, 1903-10-08
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matter. He was rot anxious to get into
the case. but he had no desire to back
Of from the case. He had no desire
20 damage the character OF any man.
He would rot say he had been active
against Til!n2H. He answered cues
tons when asked him. but he did not
regard that as activity. He felt his duty
to answer questions when asked hiI4.
He was sure he had no feeling against
Col. Tillman.
Redirect: He never had any unkinG
feeling towards Col. Tillman PERSONAL
ly. They were not intimate, but tairly
intimate.
There was a contest as to the extent
of the intimacy and whether Col. Till
man and Mr.. Terrell talked about the
chances of Col. Tillman's candidacy.
The testimony was admitted and Mr..
Terrell talked with him about his can
didacy and said he was going to make
tie race for Governor. He knew OF
nothing to mar the intimacy and he ad-
dressed him as Colonel or jim. He
wrote the editorial against Tillman
because he thought it for the good Of
the State for him not to be elected. lie
had no i'll will towards TillEal ana
spoke TO him after the editorial o2pos-
ing Tillman's election for Governor.
lie never knew that Tillman had any
thing to do with Perkins. with whom
he had a conflict. He denounced the
shooting OF Tillman in killing GonZa-
les, and Attorney General Beliinger
asked him how and why he condemned
the killing.
Mr.. Croft objected on the ground
that the editorial itself was the best
evidence and should be presented. The
editorial was not presented and the
matter Of the editorial dropped, ani
then Mr.. Terrell was asked if he ever
denounced Tillman. He did not think
he had ever denounced TillMan as
man. He did not know Mr.. Logan was
& lawyer in the case. 1t was surprise
to him that he was in any way con-
nected with the case.
Cross-eXamination: He knew Mr..
Mouzon Smith AID he started to repre-
sent him. He did not know that Till
man represented Perkins and Terrell
in which they had personal difficulty.
First Witness for Defense.
Ae this point Mr.. Nelson. for the
defense, stated that Miss Roper. a
material witness present for the de-
fense, was now a resident Of New
York, a trained nurse employed in
hospital, that it was necessary for her
to leave this afternoon or she WOULD
lose her position, and that unless she
were held under bond, the defense was
powerless to keep her here. Mr.. Mel
son touchingly related the urgent ne-
cessities Of the case so far as the de-
fense was concerned. Some debate
among the lawyers ensued. the defense
finally suggesting that il Miss Roper
were allowed to testify today, the
State could continue its testimony
Tuesday without being compelled 10
rest"
Mr.. Johnstone. at some length, Go-
livered a moving and eloquent Grafton
on the subject. pointing out that Miss
Roper had been in South Carolina
since the 21st, waiting to testify, an"
painting in striking colors the
Importance to Miss Roper of leaving
for New York in the afternoon.
Mr.. Bellinger. for the State. said
that counsel for the State had agreed
to insist upon the regular and ordinary
conduct OF the trial from its side. The
State merely wished justice done AID
the interests OF justice would be A.
fected by a departure from the usua!
rule. To place witness under bond.
he said. involves nc humiliation what
ever. He did not for a moment con-
template that the lady need go TO Jal',
the very thought was repulsive to him.
but the merely formal attachment OF
her signature to a bond carried no
hardship with it. Judge Gary. however,
took the view OF the defense. the IN
derstanding being that the State may
offe- other testimony if it so desires.
Miss Roper. young woman OF gHp
presence and bearing. was then in
troduced. She testified substantially
that when a trained nurse a. hcs2:-
tai in Spartanburg in or about July,
1902. Mr.. Gonzales visited for two days
and a half. his uncle. Capt. Ralph Il
lott. then hoIelessly i'll in the hospl :
tai and under he- care. He talked to
her about the lieutenant governor. ana.
used the terms coward" and "yilliar'
in describing him. All OF her conver-
sation with Mr. Gonzales was pleasant.
She told Mr.. Gonzales Of her fanliiv
connection and long acquaintance with
the Tiilmans. He inquired If she cor
sidered the lieutenant governor \
b.ave man. She said that she certain
" did. Then he said that twice IL.
Gonzales. had made Tillman show tie
white feather. that Tillman had twice
challenged him to duels. which he had
not acknowledged and Tillman had g"
little resentment about him that lie
came to him in a hotel lobby in Wash
ington. spoke to him and offered hin
a cigar. 1t was noted that she did not
testify to any threat on the part OF Mr.
Gonzales.
THE WITNESSES.
A. G. LaMotte was the first witness
examined for the State. He did not
see the shot fired. but corroborated to
a degree the testimony Of other Stale
witnesses as to the position occupied
by Mr.. Gonzales and the prisoner.
C. NJ. Lide was next sworn. He too
testified that the three men approach
ed In the relative positions described
49, Co~afor nrNnp He declared that