The Saint Paul globe., 1903-12-17
CARLISLE is NOW
IN COUNTY JAIL
Accused HypnotistIs Arraigned
on Grand Larceny
Charge.

John j. Carlisle, alias John J. De-
bralls, is an occupant Of cell rs In the
Hennepin county Jail
He arrived from Chicago yesterday aft
ernoon in the custody of Sheriff Dreger,
and exactly two hours later was leaning
in statuesque pose against the clerk s
desk in Judge Simpsons court, listening
to the reading of an Indictment charging
him with grand larceny in the second de-
gree in which he was pilliored as "a
cheat, fraud, confidence man and a
swindler''
The Indictment charged that on Oct
21 he induced Miss Clarise Heebner to pay
him $3.50 for a fifth interest in an acad-
envy of occult science which did not
exist.
Carlisle Strengthened up and answered
''not guilty" when Clerk Royce finished
reading the Indictment Then addressing
Judge Simpson, he said, ST do not under
stand the modus operandi-what am 1
to do? l have not had time to consult
with counsel
You will be permitted to consult with
counsel" answered the court, and given
reasonable time to prepare your defense.
You can withdraw or change your plea
after. you have consulted with an attor-
ney.'
Assistant County Attorney Jelley asked
that Carlisle's bonds be fixed at So 500.
We may have other charges to prefer
dSdtDSl lu1S man, he Sd10.
Ball Is Fixed at $500.
Your honor" protested Carlisle. "This
Is the first time / was ever arrested. I
am stranger here, and it may be diff
cult for me to secure any bail at ALL
hope you VIII nominate reasonable
amount"
Judge Simpson though that SO 500 was
reasonable and set the trial for Friday
Carlisle is a young man of prepossess-
ing appearance, and on the whole would
pass for an intelligent young man of
twenty-five who has been well brought up.
When seen at the county jail last night
the accused hypnotist said:
my real name is Carlisle. I am not
Debralls. He is fellow I met who
wanted to open an academy of ocult
science. He had no money, SO I financed
the proposition. He opened the academy
and we conducted 1t together for a
Paul with the idea of opening an acad-
emy there. The charge against me by
Miss Heebner is simply absurd. I simply
sold her an interest in the business. One
hundred dollars of the money she paid
me was put into circulars to increase the
business.
"Her prosecution of me amounts to
blackmail. I have no other idea than that
she thought that if she threatened my
arrest that my father-in-law would set
tle.''
bralles, other than yourself?'
by dozens of Witnesses answered
Carlisle, glibIy.
is Identified as DebraIIs.
Fifteen minutes later Robert H Whyte,
who has charge of the Bank of Minne-
apolis building, walked into the room,
took a look at Carlisle and said THAT S
Debrails, and the only Debralls there
was. I rented him the rooms, collected
rent from him and saw him every day I'M
til he disappeared.
Debralls had three callers yesterday
| afternoon, one Of whom was his wife.
| Il do not care to say single thing to
the papers, she answered when asked
if she would not express her sentiments
concerning her husband.
A veiled lady stylishly dressed, was
another caller. Debralls refused to say
who she was and she was careful tc
screen her face with her veil.
When passing through Chicago Wednes-
day night Carlisle telegraphed Miss Heeb-
ner, asking her. to call upon him imme-
| diately upon his arrival at Minneapolis
| with a view to making a settlement. Miss
Heebner said last night: II did not go
| to see him because was not allowed to.
/ 1t is suspected, however, that the veiled
lady may have been a representative OF
1 Miss Heebner.
Carlisle's third caller was Frank NJ
Nye, an attorney, whom Carlisle asked to
| defend him. When asked later if he had
| taken the case, Mr. Nye replied, II have
not been retained"