Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1903-11-19
Cuban Bill Develops Some
Acrimonious Political Dis
cussion In Congress
SOME INTERESTING coLLooulEs
Champ Clark of Missouri. and Fordney
of Michigan, Get Into q Personal De-
bate-some Pretty Strong Language
used-Grosvenor of Ohio Defends
the Measure.

Washington, Nov. 19-The opposition
to the Cuban bill was heard in the
house yesterday in vigorous speech.
The features of the day were the
speeches of Mr.. Grosvenor of Ohio, who
opened the discussion In advocacy of
the bill. and of Mr. Fordney of Michi-
gan republican, who spoke III opposi-
ton. Mr.. Grosvenor spoke for more
than an hour, during which he was
frequently interrupted by questions
emanating from the democratic side
The colloquies resulting, especially
those with Mr.. Clark of Missouri,
brought forth loud applause, first on
one side of the chamber and then on
the other. Mr.. Grosvenor made
prophetic statement as to how tn.
states would be aligned in thu. coming
presidential campaign. IN response to
the declaration of Mr.. Clark as to the
probability of democratic success next
year.
Mr.. Fordney and two Of his repub-
lican colleagues from Michigan spoke
in opposition to the bill. Mr.. Fordney
enphatically expressed his disapproval
of the measure. He made an attack
on Mr.. Francis Thurber. of New York,
and criticised General Wood in severe
terms for paying money to Mr.. Thur
her for distributing literature in the
interest OF Cuban reciprocity two years
ago.
Among others who spoke in opposi-
ton to the bill we're Messrs. Shafroth
OF Colorado, Burgess Of Texas and Bell
o: California. democrats. and Messrs.
McMorran and Loud, republicans.
The debate will close today and the
vote will be taken not later than p. m.
The Debate.
In opening the debate Mr.. Grosvenor
said he would not permit his vote on
this question to be challenged as at
fecting his attitude on the dominant
question of protection to American In
dustries. Speaking OF tariff revision.
he said the republicans would revise
the schedule when they got ready to
do so. and in their own way, without
any AID from the opposite side OF the
house. and that the revision would be
with special reference to the upbuilding
OF American industries without dis
turbing present conditions.
Answering Statement: made by Mr.
Clark of Missouri as TO conditions ex-
listing when Mr.. Cleveland went in as
president Mr.. Grosvenor said: "Imme
-. nfo ~ vala "A
there was practically a suppression of
the income OF the revenues Of the gov
eminent In the treasury of the United
States. 1t was natural: It was inevita-
BILE: 1t would happen again II some
body other than Roosevelt should be
elected next year"
Mr.. Grosvenor introduced a letter
written by Charles Foster. former sec
rotary of the treasury. under Presi-
dent Harrison. to Senator Foraker, IN
which he states the condition OF the
treasury when Harrison retired AMI
Cleveland became president He gave
in detail facts in connection with the
preparation OF bond plates In February,
1893 and of the steps taken after con-
sulting, as he said. with Senators Sher-
man and German and Mr. Carlisle, who
was to become Mr.. Cleveland's secre-
tary OF the treasury.
It Is stated in the letter that Mr..
Foster turned over to Mr.. Carlisle
$103. 100000.
While speaking OF the prospects for
the democratic party, Mr.. Clark OF Mis-
souri, asked If Mr. Grosvenor knew that
OF the nineteen men convicted In ST.
Louis, sixteen of them were republi-
cans. II don't know" replied Mr.
Grosvenor. hut IL that is true 1t don't
speak we'll for the fairness OF the adj
ministration OF justice" Loud APP
plause followed on the republican side.
Mr.. Grosvenor replying to the state
ment of Mr.. Clarke OF Missouri, as to
the probability of the democrats gain
ing control of the next president. said
he would show what the result would
be. The democrats. he said, would
carry Alabama, Arkansas. Florida,
Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi. Mis-
souri,, North and South Carolina, Ten
nessee. Texas and Virginia.
F "And you might add New York, :"
said Mr.. Sulzer.
'I might add Ohio, but won't" said
Mr.. Grosvenor. daughter on the re-
publican side.)
He said the democrats would find
some fighting ground in Delaware and
Idaho, (possibly) Maryland he said.
was in doubt, Montana somewhat
doubtful. II put New York in this
column" he said. against my own
judgment"
He said this gave the democrats ISL
votes and sixty-two doubtful. He then
named the following as the republican
states: California, Colorado. Connec-
ticut, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas,
Maine, Michigan, Minnesota. Massa-
chusetts, Nebraska, New Hampshire,
New Jersey, North Dakota, Ohio Penn
sylvania, Rhode Island South Dnkota,
Vermont Washington, West Virginia,
Wisconsin, Wyoming. with a total Of
263 votes.
Mr. Grosvenor said that the Panama
question would not afford the demo-
Gratis an issue and in this connection
said there was no Aguinaldo down
there as all are on the side of the 18TH
mus. Mr.. Grosvenor was frequently in
terrupted by questions. from members
on the minority side. He spoke for
more than an hour and was loudly ap.
plauded on the republican side during
and at the close of his remarks.
Mr.. Richardson, of Alabama, said
the benefit to the cotton industry OF the
south which will result from the 40
per cent reduction on the cotton sche-