The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-01-27

connection with this is absolutely false
We'll. as to his impression l don't know,
but as to his statement il is false"
Mr.. Tayler had the witness identify the
story that he CDoblin) had read in news
paper and which he said was the first init
nation he had had of any proposition.
Doblin then said Mr.. Lessler who, he
testified, said to him: "I have got you
into trouble said how is that? Well
he said. there's a subcommittee meeting
this morning and 1 will talk to you about
it,"
did Lessler tell you anything about
what you before testified to?'
He said read that over, Ii will be all
right and / read it over"
What else did he say?"
He said that the Holland torpedo SUBJ
marine boat business is up"
What else did he say?"
He did not say much; after that Som
came in: They had some papers they were
Then all you learned about the details
of what Lessler claimed you learned from
a newspaper"
'.At that time. yes"
when did you learn anything else?"
FORCED TO HELP LESSLER.
when we went to breakfast l said:
What did you say, Monte?' He said:
Can't you read that? looked it over and
found he was talking about 5000. He says
blurted it out 7 won't be positive
whether he said that at the table or in the
room. He said: L blurted it out and you
have got to help me out here"
rs that all that occurred?
HE said: mentioned your name. You
simply have got to go and make your state
ment. "
tons by Representative Tayler witness said
he did not want to imply or to say that
the subcommittee had indicated to him
when he first appeared what to say or had
suggested what he should state.
Answering further questions by Mr.. Tay-
Ter, Doblin said he talked with Mr.. Less
ing his testimony and after getting home
he talked with members of his family.
After you saw Mr.. Rogers he told you
you had made yourself subject to criminal
prosecution. didn't he?" asked Mr.. Tayler.
Eyes, sir.
And it was on his advice you came here
to tell us this statement this morning.
81 made the statement to him which he
wrote out and signed
Mr.. Rixey--l want to ask If whether in
conversation with Lessler regarding SUBJ
marine boats you mentioned the subject Of
money.
Yes"
The witness explained that they spoke Of
the price of the boats and what ten would
cost.
Answering Mr. Tayler, the witness said
he had decided to come to Washington and
make his statement to-day on the advice of
his counsel.
Ibid not you know you were swearing
falsely all along?" asked Mr.. Tayler.
Yes, SIR
did not. you know IL was legally punish
able to swear a lie?"
Il did not know about the law"
Haven't you been about the courts Of
New York great deal?"
Haven't you heard OF a man being tried
there for swearing falsely?"
mo- sir"
"You did not regard it as morally repre-
henSihlp a
ter being investigated by Congress?"
AT that time did not give it thought"
DO you think it was right to come here
and swear that Mr.. Quigg had offered you
a bride when he did not do it?''
mo, SIR" he replied.
The question being put to witness in an
what Mr. Lessler told him-that there was
nothing to it.
LOST TO DEcENcY.
| Mr.. Butler-You absolutely are lost to all
sense of propriety or decency, are you?
II was told by Mr.. Lessler that there was
nothing to this and thought it would be
| all right" answered the witness.
did he tell you that you would commit
perjury"
1.-THE telegram said everything was all
right"
Did you understand by that that it was
81 did not understand that
| He was questioned with a view to devel-
| oping what caused him to come to Wash
| ington and make this retraction. He told
| of consulting a lawyer and of his decision
| to make this statement on his lawyer
| advice and of making an afhdavit-the affi-
| davit Mr.. Rogers sought to offer when
| the committee decided to have Doblin take
| the stand and personally make his state
ment.
Mr.. Nicholl, Mr.. Quigg's attorney, asked
a consider tie under ass, such
were willing to do that for hin?''
| Eyes, sir"
'And did you think you were rendering
him a useful and substantial service?"
| Yes, sir
Ibid you go back to New York satisfied
that you had rendered him substantial
| service?'
He so told me; he said it was all right
| Delaney Nicoll, attorney for Mr. Quigg
when interrupted in the cross-examinatior
of Doblin, said: Il consider that the wick.
| edest and foulest plot against the integrity
| of my client, former member Of the
| House, has been revealed in this committee
| to-day and l want to prove 1t here, entail
| ing consequences which every one of us
must see must happen and want to probe
| IL to the bottom"
Mr.. Rogers then questioned his client
| Doblin. and brought out statement from
him that no one had sent Doblin to hin
| (Rogers).
Before you had seen me-" he asked, "or
| the way home by whom were you accom-
| panied?"
by Lessler.''
WAS anything said about looking VI
| some law"
Yes. sir. Mr.. Lessler said he would lool
| up the law tomorrow"
| Replying to further questions by Mr.. Rog
| ers, witness said that no one had explained
| 10 him that sworn testimony before a com
| mittee of Congress was the same as befor,
| a court of justice.
The committee held an executive session
| to consider what action was to be takel
in view of the remarkable development
and later announced II would continue tn
| investigation tomorrow. when another wit
ness is expected to testify.
"FALsE, MALICIOUS, LIBELOUs."
McCullagh's DenunciatiOn Of Attemp