The San Francisco call., 1903-12-18

Here Aldrich asked German whether
it was the purpose OF the reconcen-
trated Democracy to defeat the treaty"
CHALLENGES A STATEMENT.
After some parley German exclaimed:
Il say to the Senator from Rhode
Island that if the case stands as it is
| now, with only the information the ad-
ministration has furnished us to this
hour, then we regard it as a most OBJ
jectionable transaction. And let me
say to the Senator, when you talk
about responsibility, we can take the
responsibility and say to the admins
tration without regard to party: Con
gress has directed you to do one of
two things, to construct the canal and
do it without delay; when you cannot
get it at Panama go to Nicaragua and
construct it there and do it at once
Yet Mr.. Loomis in his speech has the
audacity to say the reason why they
did not go to Nicaragua and attempted
no negotiations with Costa Riea, or
Nicaragua. as provided by the Spooner
act, was because eminent engineers
have said Nicaragua was not the prop
er route for the construction of the
canal. That statement 1 challenge. 1t
cannot be verified. But one member of
the committee expressed a doubt as to
the feasibility of the Nicaragua route.
II do not desire to do the President
of the United States any injustice. 1
respect the office. 1 believe that who
ever occupies it ought to have fair con-
sideration. But the executive must
have respect for Congress and a spe-
cial consideration for the Senate of the
United States when 1t comes to the
confirmation of treaties. for he cannot
make one without it's consent. When
the attempt to deprive us Of all the
facts is made l resent it. And it is
not the first instance of such action
and of debating to Congress. 1 resent
it and i have resented it at the cost
of estranging some of my political as
sociates in the past when we had a
Democratic President of the United
States. 1 accord President Roosevelt
the same treatment"
FORAKER ARRAIGNS HOAR.
When German had concluded, For
aker began a severe arraignment OF
Hoars position, saying that when he
read the newspaper accounts of the
Democratic caucus, which agreed that
caucus should be binding, he knew that
there would be trouble; that the Demo
Gratis would vote as a unit on every
matter except when the vote interfered
with individual conscience. Foraker
said he had felt no great surprise when
the attack on the President had been
made on the Democratic side of the
chamber. but that he had been shocked
when the Senator from Massachusetts
made the character of speech he did
and that the country would be equally
surprised. He said Hears speech
should have been made in executive
session, if at all.
Foraker declared that an attack had
been made not on the President alone,
but on the country and that at time
when the eyes of the world were upon
US.
L have no doubt" said Foraker,
that the President acted with the
Ioftiest of motives and the highest of
ideals when he took the action he did
in reference to the republic of Pan.
anna"
Foraker said he could think of no ac-.
ton on the part of the President calling
Senator Hoar. Hoar, interrupting,
said:
THE Senator from Ohio either wholly
misunderstands what 1 said or willfully
perverts my meaning"
HOAR MAKES EXPLANATION.
After a little further debate Hoar
obtained the floor.
MY point is this" said Hoar. Il
say that the President has said to the
public and to the Senate that he dis
claims certain conduct as unworthy of
him and l called attention to the fact
that the documents which he sent in
failed to make that clear by not dis
tinctly disclaiming that he or the adj
ministration had notice of that revolu-
ton or that our forces had prevented
the lawful Government from anticipat-
ing that outbreak; that / believed from
my knowledge of the President that
his statement was actually true and
therefore 1 asked him to supply the
lacking information by stating on
what ground the administration pro-
ceeded in taking the step. That, is all.
And I do not propose, after thirty-four
years of service within these walls, to
trouble myself to contradict again an
imputation to me of any other meaning
oe indirectness or artifice on my part.
If the Senator from Ohio chooses to
charge me with it, of course cannot
help it, He will do his duty"
Il am delighted" retorted Foraker,
that the Senator from Massachusetts,
is not afraid of anybody. / do not
know of any reason why he should be
afraid of anybody. He made a speech.
1 am undertaking to make some an
swer to it.
Now, the President has said there
was no conference, no intrigue. And
yet the Senator from Massachusetts
demands that the President shall sub
nit proof to him that he was telling the
truth when he made the statement
that he had not connived.
COLLOQUY is RESUMED.
Foraker then proceeded to review
briefly the history of the rising on the
isthnus saying that the happenings
there were common knowledge to all