The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1903-11-19
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Fordney Makes.Furious Attacsk
on Thurber and Gen. Wood
I'm Cuban Debate.

speech. The features of the day were
speeches of Mr.. Grosvenor, of Ohio,
who opened the discussion in advocacy
of the bill, and of Mr.. Fordney (Rep,
Mich.) who spoke in opposition. Mr..
Grosvenor spoke for more than an hour
and he was frequently interrupted by
| questions from the Democratic side.
The colloquies resulting, especially
those with Mr.. Clark, of Missouri,
brought forth loud applause first on
one side of the chamber and then on
! the other. Mr.. Grosvenor made a
! prophetic statement as to how the
states will be aligned in the coming
| presidential campaign, in response to
the declaration of Mr.. Clark as to the
probability of Democratic success next
year.
Mr. Fordney and two of his Republic
| an colleagues from Michigan spoke in
! opposition to the bill. Mr.. Fordney
emphatically expressed his disapprov-
| al OF the measure. He made an at
| tack on Mr.. Francis Thurber, of New
York, and criticised Gen. Leonard
Wood in severe terms for paying money
| to Mr.. Thurber for distributing litera-
! ture in the interest of Cuban reciproci-
ty two years ago. Among others who
| spoke in opposition to the bill were
u
| (Tex) and Bell (CaL), Democrats. and
| Messrs. McMorran and Loud, the latter
two Republicans from Michigan The
debate viii close tomorrow and a vote
Will be taken not later than p. m.
Grosvenor's Points.
Mr.. Grosvenor said the Republicans
would revise the tariff when they got
ready to do so and in their own way
without any aid from the opposite side
OF the house, and the revision would be
with special reference to the upbuild-
ing OF American industries without dis
turbing present conditions.
Answering a statement made by Mr..
clark (Mo) as to conditions existing
when Mr. Cleveland went in as presi-
dent, Mr.. GroSvenor said:
Immediately upon the election of
Cleveland there was practically a sup
| preston of the income of the revenues
! or the government into the treasury Of
| the United States. 1t was natural; it
| was inevitable. 1t would happen again
| If somebody other than Roosevelt
| should be elected president next year."
Mr.. Grosvenor, replying to the state
ment of Mr.. Clark (Mo.) as to the
! probability of the Democrats gaining
| control of the next congress and elect
ing the next president said he would
show what the result would be. The
Democrats, he said, would carry Ala
bama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky,
Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North
Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee,
Texas and Virginia
Mr.: sulzer On. Y)-And you might
add New York
Mr.. Grosvenor-I might add Ohio
| but I don't.
He said the Democrats would find
! some fighting ground in Delaware and
| Idaho possibly, Maryland was in
doubt, Montana somewhat doubtful.
He said this gave the Democrats ISL
votes and sixty-two doubtful.
He then named the following as the
Republican states: California, Colo
RADIO, Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana.
Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Mime
sofa, Massachusetts, Nebraska, New
Hampshire, New Jersey North Da-
kota, ONO, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island.
South Dakota, Vermont, Washington.
West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyo-
ming, with total of 263 votes.
Mr.. Fordney (Rep., Mich.) vigorously
opposed the measure as an internal
bill" which he said would wipe out the
sugar industry in Michigan. He re-
viewed the history of the beet sugar
industry, and pointed out how, in his
opinion, it would be injured by the
passage of the bill. He said:
Someone has said that it makes no
difference whether you put this meas
ure into law or not. If that is so, why
was r. T. Atkins, of Boston, here
| nearly two years ago? Why was that
=(here Mr.. Fordney used adjectives
which are considered libelous in most
newspapers) Thurber here? Why has
he been here, as he has, sneaking
around this capitol ever since l have
been in congress; who afterward ad-
TYoiff ad hnf ha 1of1 h.
trust and lied when before the commit
tee on ways and means when the gen.
t1eman from Minnesota (Mr TaWney)
asked him if the had received any
money from Mr.. Havemeyer, of the
sugar trust, in any way, shape or man.
ner, and he said no; but a few days
later, when placed upon oath, testified
that he had received money from
Havemeyer and also testified that he
had received money directly from Maj.
Gen. Wood, military governor of Cuba.
Sails Into Gen. Wood.
Mr.. Fordney said he wanted to criti-
else Gen. Wood, for it had been proved
that he had extracted from those poor
starving Cubans" $4,000, which he
had paid to Thurber to influence legis-
lation.
"Oh, what action by high of1cial!''
continued Mr.. Fordney. "He claimed
the CuDdQS were starving, ana
then reached his long fingers into the
Cuban treasury and handed out $780,
900 to this" and here Mr.. F'ordney
called names which might be consid
cred libelous, uttered anywhere save
in congress.
Mr.. Fordney said Gen. Wood has tes-
titled before a senate committee that
he had searched the whole island and
that all the sugar he could find that
belonged to the trust was 1926 tons.
A few days LATER Mr.. Havemeyer tes-
titled that the trust had $4,000 tons OF
sugar in Cuba. Wood only missed it
by 10000 tons. That is not much for a
military officer. The average Ameri.
can soldier is a better marksman than
that. 1 could beat it myself"
The bill was to benefit prosperous
Cuba at the expense of the farmers OF
the United States. Mr.. Fordney said
that with the reduction on the tariff
on sugar which would follow this bill
the trust at it's will would reduce the
price of sugar to a point with which
the beet sugar manufacturers could not
compete, and when they had crushed
them out raise the price. Every pound
of sugar coming from Cuba goes
through the refneries of either the
American Sugar Refining company or
Arbuckle's, one having a capacity OF
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