The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1903-02-07
FINAL VOTE WILL
BE TAKEN TODAY
Measure Will First Be Considered foF
hreeHours Under the Five Min
utes Rule-Many Speakers Par
ticipated in the Debate of
Yesterday-Many Ques-
tions Are Asked.
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WASHINGTON, February 6-Generas
debate on the anti-trust bill closed in
the House shortly before s O'Clock this
evening. The debate had proceeded sinca8
II o'clock in the morning More interest
was aroused as it proceeded, and the
closing speeches by Mr. De Armond. OF
Missouri, and Mr.. Littefed, OF Maine.
were delivered to crowded galleries. and
to very full attendance on the floor.
The closing, however, was devoid Of
| brilliant pyrotechnics and sensational
clashes sfs
The other speakers to-day were Messrs.
Lawrence CRepublcAn),o OF Massachusetts;
Parker (RepublicaW. Tyrrell (Republi-
cam, Of Massachusetts,; Jenkins tRepubIi-S
can), Of Wisconsin; Douglass (Republi-
CAM, Henry CDemocrat), and KleherE
! tDemocraD, Of Texas; Fleming Demo-
craft, Of Georgia; kitchin Delnocrat), OF
| North Caroliia; Mcclellan democrat }, OF
\ New York: Williams CDemocrat) of Mis-
sissippt. ..s 4 s
Tomorrow for three hours the bill Wilt
be considered under the tye-ninute rule
after which the final vote will bA taken.s
POWER VERY LIMITED Sg
Mr.. jenkins. Of wisconsin, chairman OF
the Judiciary Committee, said that the
power of Congress was as limited upon
this question as that of any common
council. He quoted many authorities IN
support OF his contention that Gorgress
had no control over commerce: that it's
power was strictly limited to regulations.
In reply to question. he agreed that
the taxing power o1Stle government need
not be invoked to suppress undesirable
! corporations. .6
Mr. Fleming, Of Georgia. said he would
vote for the bill, amended or unamended.
Et,t tfot., ~. A.g.~
! sections. He pointed out particularly,
that the bill only compelled corporations
thereafter organized, t. Sic returns.
| This, he said, would be In the Elterest oe
old corporations by placing them In pos-E
session of complete information concern
! ing future corpora tions organized to fight
| those in existence. Mr.. Fleming suggested
| an amendment to section five, SO as TO
make 1t applicable to water .transpor ta-5
tion- He said that Mr.. Nevin, Of nio.
and himself, both members of the Judi
! ciary COMMITTEES, had concurrecl in a
minority report favoring the striking out
OF section seven which prohibited a car-
rier from transporting trust-made goods.
| He was opposed to it because it IL iced
the responsibility of determining what
We're trust-madc goods on the carrier
NOT TO DESTROY.
l Mr.. De Almond, of Missouri. clnsed thah
| general debate for his side. He said he
! realized how difficult it was to deal with
the trust. Human greed, with the best
1 human Intellect at Its command, was
not to be easily baffed, and therefore a
| solution of the problem required sincere
and honest endeavor lie was one OF
those, he said. who believed that a revi-
! sion of the tariff could achieve much.
| Flo did not believe that the tariff SHELF
tered all trusts. Still, il 1t would break
the bones OF any of>the giant trusts. WHY
/ ~ II ~
plied? Some on the other side openly
admitted that the traffic had protected
| trusts; would it not be good to let down
| the bars of the sheltering place and breeda
| Ing grounds of the, trusts? His side pros
posed discrimination against trust-mads
| articles whenever necessary to protect
/ the public. Why, he asked, addressing
the Republican side, to trust the trusts
rather than your own President?
/ I'VE are not seeking to destroy, - lIrs
| De Armond said. .'but to preserve-to
act as bulwark, to prevent the consoli.
dalton and constantly multiplying monop.
oily which will finally crush out tha
American individual and make a shadow
OF what was once his proud American
citizenship" VI.
PICKINGs STILL GOOD.
\ Mr.. DeArmond said the bill reported
from the Judiciary Committee was quite
q different measure from that originally
| introduced by Mr.kLltIlellelQ w nen the
gentleman from Maine started out" said
he. che had blood in his eye and toma-
hawk In his hand, but blythe time he and
his colleagues caught up with the trusts
| they were smoking tho pipe of peace. The
sky was clear and the pickings were to
| continue good for the trusts. Democratic
laughter and applause,) Il 1t was desired
to 90 something effective" Mr.. DeArInond
snid, ''the minority amendment should hs
| adopted" Corporations should be made
amenable to local courts, as individuals
are, The taxing power Of the governments
| should be employed as IT was to suppress
State banks, The bankruptcy act could
be used to throw trusts into court if they
| violated the law
Ho believed. he said, that members
should seriously and without seeking party
advantage strive to place an antt-trust
Law upon the statute books. The majority
| In Congress will go far enough to satisfy
the people that Ii seeks to do somethinS
for the peoples good, but not far enough
| to punish the peoples enemy, s
Mr.. Littleheld spoke for the majority,
| In opening he stated that no one seriously
believed. with the existing constitutional
limitations, that bill could be prepared
that would fully and Adequately meet
i n, 4. I.