The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-08-26

............n..1..1.s... - I ruary or March, I will say last winter you were here last winter1 A. was over in Mississippi for awhile. | 0. During the winter months? A. Yes. | MT. Lobman-what months were you there? A. am not positive what months was over in Mississippi. for some little time at Jackson. Miss, during either Feb ruary or March.
 Mir. McIntyre-Did you ever have any | conversation in the corridor hall out there or elsewhere, with Mir. Ford, about rec ommending your pit? A. I don't think 1 have.
 Q, Did Mir. Ford ever have conversa- ton with you about recommending your | pit? A. Not that remember | c. Did Mr. Ford ever volunteer to you | his opinion as to the quality of your gray ei, or as to the value of your pit? A. No. I Q. Did you ever seek out,Mr. Ford and ask him to recommend your pit? A. Not | that remember of, sir. He went bt tore the Committee. was before the Com- mittes the night he recommended 1t. heard him recommend the pit. l Q. What night was that? A. do not remember 1t was the night that the Com | mittee met here, 1t was right open, right in the Mayors office there. l e. Do you remember the time that MT. | Campbell Jones and Mir. Dave Ford su- perintended the sinking of certain pits or certain wells out in your gravel pit? A. | was not there.
 l o. Were you there on any one of those days when they were experimenting the sinking of pits? A. was not there. they went there without my knowledge and sunk the pits.
 | Q. And you were not present? A. I was not present at all, sir. l Q. Is this statement made by the City Engineer true: At the time Dave Ford and Campbell Jones went to the pit with me MT. Detwiler was present and Mir. Johnson was present.
 Mir. Gunter-what Johnson is that? A. l Norwood Johnson. l never heard thing !, of this, gentlemen. until after the pit was sold. came here that night and was sick over there. Major Steiner was pres ent at the time, he will tell you. MT. l Carr was sitting right up there. saw me leaving the office before they acted on it.
 was hardly able to get home. | Mir. McIntyre-No such offer as this was ever made: ''de offered me $500 to rec ommend to the Committee the purchase of his gravel pit?' A. did not do 1t. l e.. Did any such conversation occur upon that occasion with Mir. Ford as this;
 T told him that I was an employe of the city and that the whole amount that he would get for his gravel pit would not
 influence me one way or the other; that did not care to have anything of the sort said. In the first place I told him that he was certainly joking. that he did not mean what he said. He said. I am in earnest about 1t. I propose to give you y50o.' said, Well. you don't know what l you are talking about--go on off.'" Did any such conversation as that occur be- tween you and MA. Ford? A.. No, sir.
 o. At any time in your life? A. No, sir.
 0. Or at any place? A. No, sir.
 O. Did anything like this occur be-
 tween you and Mir. Ford during the past l year: After the Committee failed to re- port Mir. Carter came to my ofice, called | me outside In the hallway, and says: I
 want your help in selling this pit and
 want you to take this $100, and will give
 you the balance when the Council pur-
 chaees this pit" Did any such thing as l that occur, ever occur oeSWeen you ana MT. Ford? A. No, sir.
 c. Did you ever try Co put $l00 or any other amount in his pocket? A. MT. Mc- Intyre, you have known me for years. No, sir, I never did 1t. don't generally
 settle my indebtedness that way, l gen.
 orally get receipt for my money. | o. You never ventured, you say to put
 any bills in hls pocket? A. No.
 O. Now, upon that occasion. if there
 was any such occasion, was any such Ian l guage as this ever used to you by MT.
 Ford: T told him to go of. that did not propose to have anything to do with him, that would not help nim sell the
 gravel pit if the city never got gravel pit" Was any such statement as that. in substance, made to you by Mr. FordT A. No such thing sir.
 O. Now do you recall Mir. Carter the day, or the days, that Mir. Ford and MT. Campbell Jones visited the pit for the purpose of experimenting the wells by the negroes? A. I had no idea they
 were there until I rode over there ana found them sinking some wells.
 o. Were you there while they were l there? A. Yes.
 O. Do you remember having a conver. sation with MT. Campbell Jones upon that occasion? A. No.
 O. Do you remember having offered
 MT. Jones the sum of $500. A. Remem- Der having a conversation but l had re- ference to conversation between him | and myself.
 O. You say you don't recall any con- versation in which you offered him $oOO or any other sum of money to recom- mend your gravel pit? A. l do, sir. l O. Dou you remember whether or not you had any conversation with MT. Jones | in which you asked him to recommend your gravel pit? A. l might have done that, I have no recollectlon-but l might have done that
 o. But you say you have no recoliec- | tion? A. They led me to believe 1t was all right from the mere fact l had the wells cleaned out and they went out and examined it. they said that was what they wanted. what the city needed. c. To come back to the first proposi- tion: State whether or not you offered him anything upon that occasion, or any other occasion, to recommend your gravel pit? A. 1 did not.
 c. State whether or not you ever of fered Mir Ford or Mir Campbell Jones, or any other employe of the city any money or thing of value, for their recommends ton of your gravel pit? A. No. | c. Well do you state upon that occa- sion Mir Ford and MT. Jones both rro- nounced your gravel pit fine gravel pit? A 1 do.
 Q. Did they state whether or not they regarded the price of $ll, 900, or any other named price exclusive? A. They did not.
 e. Did they say anything about the value of the pit? A. They did not c. Did you ask their opinion? A. No. sir, because I knew the value great deal better than they did, I had more experience in the gravel business. | Q. Did you know what position Mir. Jones held in the city of Montgomery? A. Yes Street Overseer o. Did you ever asK him to influence any member of the City Council? A. did not.
 Q. Or did you ever ask him to in-