The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1903-05-30
WHAT STATES
WITNESSESSAW
Defense Rests After Testimony of MIR. F1o-
cutt, Ned Barnes, Dr.. Jordan, Deputy
Separk and Others.

couldn't tell After he struck him l saw
Mr.. Haywood fall back, this way Gndicat-
| ing) and caught something l think with
/ his right hand. Anyway, he fell back, or
staggered bak and caught on his hand.
| As he Strengthened Mr. Skinner stepped
back-I don't know just the distance, but
anyway a few steps back, and as he
stepped back and Mr.. Haywood recovered.
didn't see any pistol but heard pistol
shot. and then l saw Mr.. Skinner again,
he turned himself a little and he walked
then. I suppose, possibly one or two steps
| further and then he turned and came back
as though he was coming back towards
Mr. Haywood, at the same time that he
turned l noticed his hand go behind him
this way Indicating with left hand).
didn't see him draw any weapon, nor did
l see any one, and then he turned again,
and about the time he turned again and
stepped off a little ways heard the second
report, but / did not see any pistol at all.
He walked on out then and made circle.
kind around a little and fell right near the
street car track, just how near, or whether
he was across it, don't know, but know
he was near the track
20. After Mr. Skinner had stricken Mr..
Haywood, you say he got some distance
from him?"
"A. Yes, sir. The only thing l can say
with reference to the position of his hand
was that this hand Indicating left hand)
was drawn behind him, just how. or ex-
actly the position, l cannot say. (Witness
stands up and indicates to the court the DO
sition. / know his hand was drawn this
way, whether it was in his pocket or not
/ don't know. I only know his hand was
drawn behind him this way, then he kinder
turned again, as though he was going
towards Mr.. Haywood He paused and
then he made motionsas though he was
advancinw towards Mr.. Haywood. after
he had stopped. Mr.. Skinner at that time
was out, just the distance 1 cannot tell
you. He was right at the edge Of the SIDE
wa Tx
20. Somewhere between the curbing
and the street car track?"
"A. Yes, sir. 1t was done so quick
couldn't tell just the distance they were.
Theer were two or three vehicles standing
along there, just how many / don't know
| know there was one standing. YOU
might say almost in front of the south
steps, and then there was another one
standing down by the side of the billboard
| When Mr.. Skinner went off the sidewalk
ne went between the two carria ges, one in
front of the billboard and the one stand
ing IN front OF the south steps"
g. You mean by that that he went
south directly in front of where the diff
ficulty took placer"
The Solicitor. Better let the witness
tell what he mans.''
"A Yes, sir, south. There was nothing
IN the world to obstruct my view of what
occurred / noticed there was one or two,
possibly three or four carriages standing
up the street, just how many l don't know.
Al That time, is it natural to suppose that
a man wouldn't notice and count how
many carriages were standing on the
street, but there was nothing in the
world between me and the two men
From the postoffice there is steps a
place going down and then the side
walk
Right up next to the postoffce there
IS little elevation
As to where Mr.. Haywood was stand
ing with reference to that, would i,dga
Mr.. Haywood was standing sometbinp
like this, like this was the curbinq az
the office, would judge he was standing
something in this position. near the curb,
ing, and / was standing off from him over
here Gndicating). I couldnnt tell how
near he was to it."
q. What we are talking about Isl the
little thing called the parapet, right next
to the building, the little elevation that
comes out from the postoffce, just two
or three feet on the sidewalk, and then
the sidewalk is down a foot or fourteen
inches you mean he was standing up next
to that?"
yes, sir, he was standing very near
to that, just how far, / cannot tell"
CROSS EXAMINATION.
Il met Mr.. SchmlUz, he came to Bur
ford's and music store. there is
where / met him; was employed at the
music store at the time
''We came on down street together, as
/ stated before. / think he sat down
tehre in the store and played piece or
two on the piano, then got up and said,
suppose we walk down street.
''Fhat was Saturday afternoon
Il think we were about two or three
steps from the sidewalk, just had stepped
off the sidewalk, and we were coming
kinder diagonally across the street to-
wards the postoffice.
AZ to the location of these carriages,
one was standing in front of the bill
poster, one was standing in front Of the
south steps, and how many more there
were up the line. l don't know.
J II think there was a carriage standing
in front of main entrance, but wouldn't
swear there was. If there was that would
be three.
IF there was carriage standing in