The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-11-19
OPPOSITION HAS ITS SAY Cuban Reciprocity is De- bated.
 SPEECHES ARE VIGOROUS Fordney of Michigan Assails Mr. Thurber.
 Tn Reference to Woods Agent, che
 Speaker Uses Language Con- sidered Libsllous--drosvenor and Clark Have Tilt.
SPEECHES ARE VIGOROUS

Washington, Nov 1s.-The opposition to the Cuban bill was heard in the House today and in vigorous speeches. The req turvs of the day were the speeches or Grosvenor of Ohio, who opened the dis- cussion in favor of the bill, and Of MT. Fordney (Rep., Mich.), who spoke in op- position. MT. Grosvenor spoke for more than an hour during which he was fre- quentiy interrupted by questions emanat- ing from the Democratic side. The col- loquies resulting, especially those with Mir. Clark of Missouri. brought loud ap- plause first on one side of the cnamper and then on the other.
 Mir. Grosvenor made prophetic state ment as to how the State will be aligned in the coming Presidential campaign, In response to the declaration of MT. Clark as the probability of Democratic success next year.
 Michigan Heard From.
 Mir. Fordney and two of his Republican colleagues from Michigan spoke in oppo- sition to the bill Mir. Fordney emphat- ically expressed his disapproval of the measure. He made an attack on Francis Thurber of New York, and criticised Gen. Leonard Wood in severe terms for pdylIB iitpuCy Lo 4sAAs AAHt pGA AOh 0ASehAS uting literature In the interest of Cuban reciprocity two years ago.
 Among others who spoke in opposition to the bill were Messrs Shaffroth (Col.) ], Burgess CTexas). and Bell Cab. Demo crats and Messrs. McMoran and Loud, the latter two Republicans from Michi- fan. The debate will close tomorrow and a vote will be taken not later than p. m.
 Mir. Grosvenor introduced letter writ ten by Charles Foster, former Secretary of the Treasury. under President Harri- son. to Senator Fora1xer. dated October 2s the treasury when Harrison retired and Cleveland became President. He gave ir detail facts with the preparation of bond plates in February. 1893. and of the steps taken after consulting, as he said, witt Senators sherman and. Gorman and Mir Carlisle, who was to become Mir. Cleve' lands Secretary of the Treasury. 1t is stated in the letter that Mir. Foster turn. ed over to Mir. Carlisle $103.0 0.0O0
 While speaking of the prospects for the Democratic party MT. Clark (Mo,) asked if MT. Grosvenor knew that of the nine teen men convicted in So. Louis, sixteen of them were Republicans.
 'T don't know" replied Mir. Grosvenor ''but if that is true, 1t don't speak well for the fairness of the administration of justice.' Loud applause on the Repuhli- can side.)
 Grosvenor's Prediction.
 Mir. Grosvenor replying to the statement of MT. Clark (Mo.) as to the probability of the Democrats gaining control of the next Congress and electing the next President said he would show what the result would be. The Democrats, he said, would carry Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana. Mississippi, Mis- souri. North Carolina. South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.
 Mir. sulzer-And you might add New York.
 MT. Grosvenor-I might add Ohio, but won't. (Laughter on Republican side.)
 MT. Grosvenor was frequently interrupt ed by questions from members on the minority side. Replying to questions as to the price of steel rails abroad as com pared to the price in this country, MT. Grosvenor said the surplus went abroad. Answering MT. Swanson's statements as to retaliation by Russia, Great Britain and other countries, Mir Grosvenor said: eve will take care of Russia. She is our friend; also take care of England, she has good sense"
 MT. Grosvenor said further that the Democrats would find some fighting ground in Delaware and Ohio (possibly) Maryland, he said was in doubt; Montana somewhat doubtful. 'I put New York in this column against my own judgment, :" he said, adding that if the Democrats do not carry New York city by double the vote given MT. Mcclellan they would be defeated in that State. He said this gave the Democrats 15l votes and 62 doubtfu
 The RepUbh an Statess
 He then na.. -.g as the Re- publican States: California. Colorado. Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana. Iowa. Kan sas. Maine. Michigan, Minnesota, Mas sachusetts. Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey. North Dakota, Ohio. Penn sylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont. Washington. West Virginia. Wisconsin, Wyoming. with total of 269 votes.
 Mir. Grosvenor said the Panama dues- ton would not afford the Democrats an issue and in this connection there was ho Aguinaldo down there as all are on the side of the Isthmus.
 Referring to a statement made by a preceding speaker based on remarks made by the late President Mckinley, Mfr. Grosvenor said if any one read in any statement made by Mir. Mckinley that he favored reciprocity to the extent of tear ing down any American industry he had misread the statement. Mir. Grosvenor spoke for over an hour and was loudly applauded on the Republican side.
 MT. Richardson, (Ala.), said the benefit to the cotton industry of the South which will result from the 40 per cent. reduction.
 MT. Loud Rep.. Mich.). speaking in opposition to the bill. said the adoption of the Cuban measure would jeopardize the home sugar industry; would retard and impede the growth of that industry and lessen the revenues by $lO.0OoO00. As business proposition he said unreason- able chances were being taken to secure net result of a few millions
 Mir. McMoran, CRep.. stich.), who also opposed the bill. said the Republicans had Joined hands with the Democrats to pass this bill, which he characterized as a free trade measure-tariff for revenue only.
 Fordney is Emphatic.
 MT. Fordney (Rep.. Mich.) vigorously op- posed the measure as an ''infernal bill" which he said would wipe out the sugar industry in Michigan Continuing, he said: Some one has said that it makes no difference whether you put this meas ure into law or not. If that is so, why