The daily morning journal and courier. [volume] (New Haven, Conn.) 1894-1907, 1903-01-27
DOBLIN'S PERJURY STORY.


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which I explained my interest in poll
tics in New York state, asked how long
I had been in politics. Then one of the
gentlemen said:
Wasn't it Mr.. Quigg who said to
you that there was $4,000 in it for Less
Ter and $1,000 for YOU?
Il said at that time, no, sir Then
all the gentlemen around said, oh, it's
all right; you go on
Then there was a discussion in the
room as to how I stood. l refused to
answer at that time at all. The gentle
men seemed to all agree that there was
nothing to it.
'"Feeling agreeably at home, I made
my misunderstanding to the way
read it iii the paper. I felt that l was
in the hands of my friends and that it
was all right; that | would back up
Lessler here, and it would be cinch;
and that that was all that there would
be to it; that the committee would re-
port; that Lessler would be indicated.
and l would be indicated, and it would
! be ali right.
After l got out of the committee
room l went down to the hotel and ask
ed for Lessler. He was not there.
telephoned to the house. but could not
get him, and left the city, thinking it
was all right"
| Dobln then told of a telegram that
| he received when he got home which
read:
statement all right. Have no fear
M"
He then told of receiving a telegram
from Chairman Foss of the naval COM
mittee summoning him before the COM
mittee and said:
Il replied to that, thinking the COM
mittee would adjourn, that l could go
on Monday just the same, it being as
I thought friendly thing"
The witness said that simultaneously
with the receipt of Chairman Foss' tele-
gram he received one, signed Monte"
reading as follows: Come on mid
night without fall
Continuing, Doblin said: when I
came on here 1t was q question of
whether I was going to substantiate
myself before a subcommittee of
friends and Lessler, or whether I was
then and there going to make Lesser's
statement appear untrue. | decided
with myself that would just make my
same statement as to that which 1
spoke of before the subcommittee" /
made It, and now retract every word
in which said that Mr.. Quigg rendered
me any bride in any way"
He said that, after giving his first
testimony, he had gone down to the
station with Mr.. Lessler, who had adj
dressed the following telegram to his
wife:
Phil examined. Substantiate story
in every way. He is all right. Will
stay here for time. Monte"
WHY DOBLIN DECIDED TO RE-
TRACT.
Answering Mr.. Tayler, the witness
said he had decided to come to Wash
ington and make his statement to-day
on the advice of his counsel.
Didn't you know you were swear
ing falsely all along?" asked Mr.. Tay-
Ter.
Yes, SIR
Didn't you know it was legally pun
ishable to swear to a le?"
AT did not know about the law"
Q.--"Haven't you been about the
courts of New York good deal?"
Ayes, SIR
Q.-"Haven't you heard of a man be-
ing tried there for swearing falsely?"
A.-"No, SIR
Q.-"You did not regard it as morally
reprehensible to give false testimony
In a matter being investigated by con-
gress?"
A-"At that time did not give it
thought"
Q.-"Do you think it was right to
come here and swear that Mr.. Quigg
had offered you bride when he did not
do it?'
A-"No, sir"
The question being put to witness in
another form, he said he was ready to
believe what Mr.. Lessler had told him
that there was nothing to it,
LOST TO ALL SENSE OF DECENCY.
Mr. Butler-"You absolutely are lost
to all sense of propriety or decency,
are you?"
Il was told by Lessler that there was
nothing to this, and it would be all
right" answered the witness.
Did he tell you that you would
commit perjury?"
A-"That telegram said everything
was all right"
Q.-"Did you understand by that it
was all right to commit perjury?"
AT did not understand that"
He was questioned with a view to de-
vrloping what caused him to come to
Washington and make this retraction.
He told of consulting a lawyer and of
his decision to make his statement on
his lawyers advice and of making an
affidavit-the affidavit Mr.. Rogers
sought to offer when the committee de-
cided to have Doblin take the stand
and personally make his statement.
Delaney Nicoll, Quigg's attorney,
asked: Did you consider yourself I'M
der such deep obligation to Nh. LESSER
that you were willing to do that for
him."
Ayes, sir"
Q.-"And did you think you were rem
dering him a useful and substantial
service?"
A-"Yes sir"