The evening world., 1903-01-27
WITNESS C0NTRADICTs HIMSELF.

y ~ you know anything about Guttanoa?" asked Nicol.
ae"No" al the reply
WAS not Dobnn employed by your Arm to present it to the Fire De-
partment of New York; wa asked.
Yes Guttanoa is a compound Tor insulating electric light wires"
The witness denied that Iessler. Dobin and himself had me- at his
"Doblin was at the table all during the conversation l had with Lessler
! did not advise Lessler not to have anything Ito do with Dobin.- He knew
him longer than l. Lessler did not take part in the conversation beyond
requesting Dobnn to tell the story. He asked ME what l thought of the
matter"
De Lancey Nioor, counsel for Mr. Quisg made a short address. He said:
AS the record now stands there is no testimony involving Mr.. Quigg
except the testimony Of pobnn. pobin stands a seltconnssed perjurer
There are some slight discrepancies between the testimony of Mr.. ouigg
and Mr.. Lessler, Mr.. Lessler admitted Mr.. ouiss had made n o improper
proposal to him.
u think the committee. OF the evidence, should ind in this cse Mr.
ouigs was not connected with a n attempt to bribe or improperly influence
this Court thank YOU"
"KLLING ME p' SAID LEsSLER.
Representative Roberts said: q have learned that a wrong impress
sion has gone ut regarding my meeting with Mr.. Lessler. I want to say
that on Jan. q Mr. Lessler met lie in statuary Hall. Lessler said; Cant
We stop this thing? My God! it's killing me-
Il said did not care whether it went or Or stopped. The statement, l
said, had gone out that the Holland people had offered money for votes.
"Mr. Lessler volunteered TO make any statement that was fair and
"Lemier said he would not i'm a statsmsn to w. nohlsssS 7 told
him the Holland people would not want to publish It, Lesser told me he
could TX the Holland people.
"on Wednesday he told me that matter had been n1ed,
Il submitted the statement to him. 1t was a denial of his charges. He
did not sign it,"
WHEELER BITTER TOWAR
Representative Wheeler insisted that Roberts De sworn. which as done.
There is not the best Of feeling between Representative Wheeler and
Roberts. There arr personal differences between them.
Mr. Roberts said he had frequently communicated with Mr. Frost by
tsiephone.
whselers examination "A very bitter, He asked Roberts II it al not
a fact that he did not believe Lessler's charges.
81 thought he made a statement he could not Subsantate." said Repre-
sentative Roberts. II am a n ardent supporter OF the Holland boats be-
leys in them. / know Mr. Rice. the president OF this company"
Aren't you a ardent, avowed and aggressive advocate OF the Holland
boat plan2' MI. Wheeler asked.
Il am" was the reply
Are you trying to impusn the wtness'" asked Mr.. Khchp.
SAYS ROBERTS'S JUDGMENT WAS WARPED
II am trying to show that his interest wal as great a that Of LESSER
/ don't mean 10 show anything corrupt am only trying TO show that hi
advocacy Of the course was 70 earnest as to warp his judgment" Mr.
WHISTLER replied.
aDont you know any other oncsrs OF the Holland Boat Company,
NJ Wheeler asked,
u dol ! know Mr.. Rice" RAJ the reply.
"What 10 your degree OF intimacy with himf" 'h
= 1ttnne 70 state it, 1yrF
NJ Et&ief took the stand ana eorTobosatsd Mr. Roberts. Al Ala In
|<4i01 vent Into executive session. .s y t