New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1903-12-18

in false light Mr. Foraker declined at first
to yield insisting his remarks were justified by
Mr.. Hoar's speech. but finally he gave way to
Mr.. Hoar, who said: My point Is this: / say
that the President has said to the public and 70
the Senate that he diselaims certain conduct as
unworthy OF him, and called attention TO the
fact that the documents which he sent in failed
TO make that clear by not distinctly diSclaiming
that he, or the administration, had notice Of
that revolution, or that our FORCES hao pre-
vented the lawful government from anticipating
that outbreak; that ! believed from my knowl-
edge of the President that his statement was
actually true, and therefore ! asked him TO sup
ply the lacking information by stating on what
ground the administration proceeded In taking
the step-that is all. And don't propose, after
thrty-four years service within these walls, to
trouble myself to contradict again an imputa-
ton to of any other meaning Of indirect
ness or article on my part If the Senat tor
from Ohio chooses 10 charge me with It, or
course. cannot help it. He will do his duty"
Il am delighted" retorted Mr.. Foraker, that
the Senator from Massachusetts, is not afraid or
anybody. | do not know of any reason why he
should be afraid Of anybody. He made speech.
l am undertaking to make some answer TO It.
submit TO Senators here that / have not, no
matter what the Senator from Massachusetts
has just now seen At to say misTepresented or
perverted a single idea that he has expressed.
What | said understood TO be the effect of his
speech-that from the kilograms read he in
ferred the conclusion that there direct con-
tradcton of the statement of the President of
the United States Now, the President has
stated there was no conference no intrigue: and
yet the Senator from Massachusetts, reading
these kilograms. demands that the President
shall submit proof to him that he telling
truth when he made the statement that he had
not connived"
THE ISTHMIAN REVOLUTION.
Mr.. Foraker then proceeded to review briefly
the history Of the uprising the isthmus, say
ing that the condition there was common knowl-
edge to all newspaper readers and to all per-
sons who had observed the fate Of the canal
treaty in the Colombian Congress and had any
knowledge of human nature.
Mr.: Morgan inquired if Mr.. Foraker held that
the Colombian Congress was ever in any way
committed to the treaty.
They simply rejected It," replied Mr.. For
aker.
Turning his attention again to events on the
tsthmus, Mr.. Foraker said: mo agent was sent
to the President of the United States. and no
agent was sent to Panama. She had right II
she fit, to go into rebellion Weeks before
she declared her independence It became known
that she would take the Step-not officially, but
to every one who studied that situation and
knew what human nature would do under the
circumstances"
The administration at Washington he said
not unmindful of the situation. land the
President took the steps indicated by the tele
grams, and from which the Senator fom Massa-
chusetts derives such conclusions" t---
ANOTHER TILT WITH Mr.. HoAR
Mr. Hoar was on his feet again and inter-
rupted. Il distinctly said that had no criticism
to make on that subject" he said. "and that
fected by the time took in the Civil War. I
not only dlscaim what the Senator imputes to
me- but made what the strongest argument
I could think of to show so far as that was con-
cerned, there was no criticism whatever proper.
Il am glad the Senator has reConsidered and
concluded to interrupt me again. remaThed MI
Foraker, amid laughter. Il understood from
the Senator there was not any necessity for
haste"
81 stated as distinctly and clearly as could
put into words the exact contrary Of what the
Senator said" declared Mr.. Hoar.
What is the use to argue that again?" broke
in Senator Foraker. with emphasis.
Then continued Mr.. Hoar, the Senator
added he was glad had reconsldered my state
ment."
THAT was the statement that you would not
interrupt me again" retorted Mr., Foraker.
Y made no such statement" declared Mr..
Hoar.
Then hope you VIII make It and stick to It,"
said Mr. Foraker.
to have me interrupt him." Mr.. Hoar answered,
That is the way the Senator always has to
get the better of his adversary" remarked Mr..
Foraker Yes, I shall always be glad to be in
terrupted by him. But wish the Senator would
tell me where | was.
Il will tell him." declared Mr.. Hoar. with
smile. HE was misstating one OF my PROPOSE
well" retorted Mr.. Foraker. amid general
laughter that does not help me any. He has
made so many of them. don't know which one
1t was"
This ended the colloquy and Mr. Foraker
closed his remarks by stating that there was
no real ground for criticism of the course of
the administration in the Panama matter. not
even that the Democrats might take advantage
Of He deplored the discussion of the matter In
open session Of the Senate, however,
Mr.. Mitchell then spoke In advocacy Of the
bin to aid the Lewis and Clark exposition at
Portland Ore
At $40 .. m. the Senate went into executive
session and at $50 adjourned.