The Montgomery advertiser., 1903-08-26

| him that, now l wasn't talking to him I as Mayor to Mayor, but I told him as one friend to another that didn't want. 1 wish to be distinctly understood, that didn't want to influence him to veto or not to veto it, but there were facts that should come to his notice and than | and there told him that Mir. Ford stated to me that Mir. Carter offered hm s50C to recommend this gravel; that he also went to Campbell Jones and offered him $500 to recommend this gravel. Mr. Mcintyre: Before finishing with | that statement-What is the distance from the main track to the pit--this pit. A. We'll 1t is a very short distance. couldn't exactly tell the distance-in fact 1t is very short distance. Mir. Mcintyre: Did you get that data that you furnished us from the City En- gineer7
 A. did sir. MT. Mcintyre: Would you mind turn ing over to the committee the memoran- dunn that he made? A. Not in the least. anything I have got If 1t will be of any help to you. Mir. Mcintyre: We'll, think 1t will. A. There 1t Is on his own letter-head. Chairman: You say that Mir. Ford and Mir. Jones gave you this information, as being offered $500 for the gavei pit. Was It of their own accord, or how did you come to know 1t? A. I suppose it was the conversation. A conversation came up about the pur- chase of the gravel pit, and was giving them my views that we could make an improvement in the handling of gravel for our city. Mir. Mcintyre: You say you drove out to the pit with MT. Joseph, and with Mir. Jones and Mir. Ford and MT. Ford and Mir. Jones went out in the same buggy, and you went out with the Mayor. A. Yes, sir. MT. Mcintyre: What day was that? A. couldn't tell you really. Q. Can you give us an Idea, whether last week, for instance? A. No sir. 1t was perhaps not exceed | ing ten days ago. Q. Not exceeding ten days ago? | A. Yes, sir. o. And at that time Mir. Ford and MT. Jones each made these statements | to you? A. They had made them prior to that. Q. How long before that time, can you recollect?
 A. Perhaps two days. Q. Who was present Mir. Carr when these statements were made to you, do you recollect. A. Nobody. AOAO WCAC yOu anu MT. fOF0, TOT instance, when the statement was made. A. They were opening, I think, they were opening sewer in front of my house.
 Q. In front of your place? A. think so. Q. What was the first statement MT. Ford made to you; give it in his own | language as well as you can. A. Well, I don't remember. excent in the exact UOrdG that hn knId Carter. " Q. Did he state when? A. No, sir; I didn't ask him,
 Q. Did he state whether or not he had informed anybody of the tender? A. No, sir; didn't ask him that.
 V: Did he state the condition of the tenoer, whether 1t was contingent upor the city buying the pit, or whether 1t wa, an absolute tender? A. l understood 1t to be an absoIute tender. understood from the way he told me. In other words, he simply saif that he had been offered $500 by MT i! ment? ~''-'s
 A. think it was about, perhaps. tn,
 day after that. l Q. Where was Mir. Jones when th,
 statement was made? State whether any
 body was present except you and MT
 Jones.
 A. I can't exactly state the position
 somewhere on Bibb Street.
 Q. Well. did MT. Ford tell you, did h,
 give you any intimation that the sam,
 offer had been made to MT. Jones? l A. No, sir.
 .. You got the statement from each
 independent of the other?
 A. Yes, sir.
 Q. Well, what did he say his offer was
 MT. Jones-$500?
 A. Yes sir
 Q. Did he state when 1t was nader
 A. No, sir.
 Q. Did he state whether or not he ha( informed anybody by whom the offer wal
 made? ' A. Said Mir. Carter made it to him,
 @. Did he state the terms, whether con dltional absolute or contingent?
 A. No. sir
 Q. And they both said they declined it
 A. They both declined it. l c. Did they state what conversatior they had with MT Carter when he made | this offer?
 A No, sir; didn't ask them. | Q. Didn't go into details? A. No, sir.
 Chairman: They told you they decllred A. Most positively; yes. sir. ! o. And that was to recommend the 1 gravel pit to the Council? l A. l don't know whether it was 10 the Council or to the Mayor, to pass favcr ably on the quality of their gravel. | e. You say you don't know anythips about any bribery offered for the pit On the part of the Council? 1 A Oh, mo-
 Q. Haven't received any information to that effect?
 A No, sir. This Is all the information had before, that wanted to lay before you. l would say further, perhaps, in my remarks, if had made any, would say, | l say to your committee, you three Al. dermen of the city. that on learning of that tender of twenty acres being offered by MT Garter. that there was not one Ald@rman, If he wanted to purchase that | for himself would take 10 1-2 or a frac- ton under ten and one-half for twenty acres.
 Q. You made that statement? Q. That no Alderman, if he was mr. chasing 1t for himself would have taken l that?
 ] A. I may have made that. Q. What do you estimate, Mir Carr. that the gravel pit is worth? A. l suppose it might be worth, s,x acres of gravel, If you could use, of course the sand gravel cannot be used, should | think perhaps 1t would be free, and that | railroad might be worth about-weu. l don't know I can't exactly say to go into the number of loads, what the gravel would be worth to the city.
 Q. Did you procure this data from Mir. ERFNr1