The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-06-02

| Ing your expenses paid by the News,
paper which had a $4,000 libel suit against
! your friend Logsdon. when you were not
1 employed 10 do that by the committee at
| all, and went over there at the expense OF
the News is that right? Al will answer
| that; / went
| Q.-Answer my question. Al will an
| swer yes, and qualify my answer. At the
| time i went to see Mr.. Folk at the sugges-
| ton and at the expense OF Mr.. Martin and
| Mr.. Brown Mr.. Logsdon was not particu-
| larry in view. The committee had given
| animation of the conduct of the city off,
| Gals, and we felt that there were matters
| here which should be uncovered. which
| committee with the proper evidence; and
| Mr.. Logsdon was not the only person in
volved in my mission TO st: Louis.
| Q.-Who do you mean by the plural we?''
we were not doing this; we were not do.
| ing that: who are I'VE" or who were 'we?"
Al say I'VE" for myself
| Q.-Ahi for yourself. Then be kind
! enough to say yourself. You said we were
| this and We were that, and want TO draw
the distinction between the I'VE" persona
| the investigating committee. So you felt,
| you, mean, that this matter ought to be
investigated? That is what you mean, is 1t
not? Al did. and the committee had as
| sented to a very wide investigation, very
| thorough investigation.
| Q.-Who assented TO that? Ain the
| first place, Mr.. Wynne at the time or my
| first employment; after that Mr.. Wynne,
| Mr.. Expert and Mr.. Shea.
| Q.-Where? AIN my Office.
| Q.-You came back from st. Louis after
having had a consultation with Mr.. Folk,
| did you? Ayes, sir.
MEETING WITH FOLK.
| Odd you lay before Mr.. Folk fully the
situation as you knew 1t as against Mr..
Logsdon? Al don't think Mr.. Logsdon's
name was mentioned to Mr.. Folk, or men,
toned in the controversy.
| Odd Mr.. Folk suggest any such
scheme as this telegram scheme? Al
don't think he Gid. No. sir.
Q.-Dont you know he didn't? Al said
/ don't think he did.
| OIL want to know whether he did or not.
| A.-Mr Folk did not, sir
| al want positive answers when they
to set trap for a man that you didn't
! know was guilty of anything at that time;
answer that please. Ais that all The
\ question?
Q.-Yes, sir. A-No, sir.
| Q.-Now, you came back, then, after hav-
| ing had your talk with Mr.. Folk you and
Mr.. Martin. and you got your man here
nothing TO 90 with getting him here.
| Dwell, he came here? Ayes, sir.
Q.-When? Al think about a week
| Q.-Anyhow he came here on somebody's
suggestion? Al think he came here on
Monday; possibly he came on Tuesday or
Ole had your home address, and
among you you had his address? Ale
had my house address; 1 didn't have his.
| Mr.. Martin did | think.
| Ole came here on Monday; when did
you see him? Al saw him the next MORN
| ing after he came here. There had been
session of the committee the evening be-
fore l am not sure he came here on Mon
| day. / think he came on Tuesday. l saw
him the next morning after he came.
omWho vas the first gentleman that
| don't know that can say, Mr. Span. Mr..
| Brown. Mr.. Hunt and l were together and
| the telegram suggested itself from the fact
that Mr.. Stahl said that he had told Mr..
Logsdon he would telegraph to his COM
pany about it and get an answer from
| them by telegram.
and among you you got up the telegram
scheme? Ayes, sir.
| Q.-Now all in the world you knew about
toid you, was it W not? %.-Yes. ' sir.
Odd you learn that he had been on the
| police force in the city of Washington be-
fore this? Al learned that he had been
| employed by Mr.. Sylvester in Washington,
yes, sir.
The Court: Did understand the previous
question correctly? Will you read next to
| the last question, MIR. CARRIER?
| (The question was read by the stenogra-
| pher)
Q.-Mr Richard Sylvester, superintendent
| of police in the city of Washington, you
mean? Ayes, sir.
| CHARACTER OF STAHL
| Odd you know that he was compelled
to resign; that he was not considered re-
liable. and was never a detective? Al
| can state what my information was. =
| Q.-But you didn't learn that? Al
didn't learn that, no, sir.
| Q.-The arrangement was when he came
over here that he was to report to yourself
and DR.. Hunt? A.-The arrangement was
that he should report to DR.. Hunt.
Q.-And DR.. Hunt and you compared
notes? Abr. Hunt rather reported to me
the work the detective was doing.
| Q.-Now, to shorten the whole matter, I
| am not going into the details of that, but I
! will ask il you were kept advised each day
| of what reports he was making? Ayes,
| sir; in substance.
| Q.-Now. then. he was put Immediately
upon the track of Mr.. Logsdon, was he not,
| when he came here? A.-No, sir.
| Q.-How soon after he came here was he
| Steered-if L may use a detective term
| against Mr.. Logsdon? A.-About ten days
| after he came here-he was not then steered
| against Mr.. Logsdon by either myself or
Dr. Hunt. He had been directed to Mr..
| Logsdon by others
| OIL want information that is Informal
| ton; don't want any hearsay. Now, then,
/ Mr.. Noel. he was steered against Mr.. Logs
L
| sir.
Q.-Now, then, how long before that tele-
gram scheme was cOncocted-if i may be
| allowed to use that term, and do not use
| 1t invidiously at all-was 1t that he had been
| steered against Mr.. Logsdon? Al think
| my first Information that he had been sent
| 70 Mr.. Logsdon, that he had been directed
to Mr. Logsdon, was on Wednesday morn
| Ing the Wednesday before the Saturday
| which was the 10th.
Q.-The Wednesday before the Saturday
on which he was arrested? A.-No, sir
| the Wednesday before the Saturday which
was the 10TH 1t must have been about the
| 18th. / judge.
| Ole had been here about ten days?
| Al am not certain about the exact num-
| Der of days; he had been here some little
| time.
| Q.-Now, when the sending of the tele-
| gram had been agreed upon between you,
| who was il suggested where il was to be
| sent to, and where delivered? Al cannot
| state that. Mr.. Span.
| Q.-You all agreed to it? Al assented
| to II. I did not agree to 1t.
| Q.-Mr. Brown was the gentleman who did
| suggest sending it to correspondent or
! TO an agent of the News in New York city T?
| A.-The mode of getting ii from Indian
| apolis to New York was not discussed.
| Q.-Answer my question? A--That was
| not talked OF, to my recollection.
| Q.-Do you know how he came to send
| it to an agent of the News In New York;
A.-No. sir, he said he could get the tele-
| gram sent here from New York.
| Q.-And the only thing that you know
4 about is, that ii was sent and that 1t
| came? Al don't know that; have never
| seen the telegram yet?
| Q.-You are aware that II came? Al
| have heard so, yes, sir.
/ knew wording