The county record. [volume] (Kingstree, S.C.) 1885-1975, 1903-10-08
STATES EVIDENCE CLOSED.
The Defense Presents One Witness
Who TeStifieS.

Gonzales CT a c2r 2Gd knew Mr.. Till
man VeYy Wcli. re knew -ir. Iiii:IalI
well. as they were 10th from the sane
cSunty.
Mr.. Tercell's testimony was the first
dramatic feature OF today. He Went
aiong until ne Eot up TO the point IS
10 whether there were any threats
made by Tilima2 IL his hearing, when
he said:
We were walking along and | spoke
to Tillman about MS health, and his
Improvement from his trip. We had
been discussing some printing he want
ed done ana, as we neared his office
door, he made the remark that he was
going to run for Governor and was
going TO be elected ana if that -.
referring 10 Mir. Gonzales with pretty
severe oGtks, attacked him like he had
Eeen doing. he was going down there
and Kill him like dog, | remonstrated
with him about that. Told him L
thought it would be wrong in pTin-
ciple aad every way. and the best thing
he could DO, if he had given him any
insult or cause for anything like that
was 10 so down there a1d tackle him.
man and man. s2d give him what ne
thought was needed. He said no; that
he was going down there and give him
no more snow than he would mad
dog
Then followed a second threat. made
on a passenger train, about which MT.
Terrell said:
BLACK and l were talking. and Col.
Tillman came and introduced them.
said: Colonel this is Mr.. Black. Do you
know him.
Ale said: oh, yes, know Black.
and slapped him on his shoulder. ana
from that the conversation went on IN
general topics until presently he re-
ferred TO what he called the Gonzales
matter and he referred to Black.
Il want it distinctly understood | am
not trying to quote vedbatim what was
said. but am just giving an idea OF
my recollection of the words that were
used
He said: Black, old boy, am going
10 do what said about that, old fellow.
am going to put an end to his way OF
abusing me, slandering me, ets., like
that. | am going to put stop to IT..
Something like that. don't remember
the exact words and l am not going to
try to quote the exact words.
Then as to another occasion, Mr..
Terrell said: "On the day they were
canvassing the returns IN Columbia
went to Columbia to present my bill
for advertising. was standing in front
OF the Attorney Generals office, talk
irg at the time to Attorney General
~ Sfotn Can't
and Watson. think his initials are +.
}. Watson, OF the State.
'All four of us were talking, and
Just as Col Tillnan came up Can't
aud Gunter walked off and Col. Till
man addressed Watson, made some
statements and said that - scoun-
drel, with some oaths before it, in that
building yonder had attacked him. He
went on to say about his attacking
him and being unjust to him, and made
some threat. | don't remember the ma
ture of il, but he said he had had as
much OF it as he was going to have and
made some demonstrative threat. and
to,i Watson: You can tell him that II
you want to-
Watson declined to do it. He said:
IL wish you would do it. l MAZE 1t
with the intention of it going to him.
in a de.nonStrative way. and Watson
declined to do it. Reite"ating the
threats. in a different form, MIR. Til
man said, with some oatns. very Sc
we're. denulciatory oaths, he said that
he was going 10 run to- Governor and
was going TO be elected and II. and
with some more denCnciatory oathS.
Gonzales attacked-him again as he had
been doing that he was going down
there cld kill him. l thiak the first
staeneat was: Like q dog. | renon-
strated with him and told him that
it woald not be right, that it would be
wrong in every principle, and the best
thing be could do was 10 80 down there
and lick hin"
Did you tell him what you were
going 10 doo'
4. Il told him that il be did it that
WY it would be nothing but murder:
that it would be decided wrong, AID
would not be in sympathy with any
thing like that. Then he repeated the
threat thst he would kill him. and give
him 20 more show than he would 4
mad deg | believe was the express
son.
TERRELL CROSS-EXAMlNED.
Mr. c. J. Terrell was then subjected
to cross-examination after recess. He
had never been on unfviendly terms
with Col Tillman. He never knew he
was not on speaking terms. On one oc-
cis.oa after the May Convention Col.
Tillman passed him without noticing
him. but afterwards they spoke. He
had no i'll feeling whatever against
Tillman. He wrote rather strong ar
ticle against Tillman's candidacy. He
criticised Mr.. Tillman rather severely.
The meeting in Edgefeld was after the
editorial in which he censured TILL
man. He did not think any one was
present. He did not regard It as q con-
fidential statement. He told Tillman
that rather than shoot Gonzales he had
better go there and lick him. II Col.
Tiliman ever sided with Perkins about
news insurance lie did not know 1t. He
never had anything unkindly towards
Col. Tillman. He had spoken about the
killing and denounced the action con-