The Butte inter mountain. [volume] (Butte, Mont.) 1901-1912, 1903-09-08
TESTIMONY ABOUT
TWO M0N0P0L|ES
F. AUGUSTUS HElNzE QUESTIONED
CONCERNING THE UNITED
COPPER COMPANY.
ANSWER STOPPED BY COURT
Questioned Concerning Copper Pro-
ducers and Copper Prices-Gves
Evidence on Other Subjects.

OF the day today in the suit brought by
John MacGinniss against the Boston &
Montana company and others to secure
receivership and injunction against the
company named.
lie was subjected to fire of questions
from Attorney A. ]. Shores of counsel for
the defendants, and his evidence showed
that his own companies are in the copper
producing and selling business as well as
the Anal lgamated Copper company, which
MacGinniss in his suit denominates
monopoly.
Would Not Allow It.
The court would not allow MIR. Heinze
to answer number of questions about the
United Copper company, however, so the
fullest information concerning that con-
Germ was not secured.
MIR. Shores asked Mr.. Heinze how the
Amalgamated company could be a mo-
nopoly if the United Copper company was
but the court did not permit the subject
to be pursued.
In the afternoon Mr.. Shores, in redirect
examination of the witness, took up the
iatters statement Of the morning that the
price OF copper was depressed in 1901 by
the United Metal Settings company, whose
Official personnel Mr.. Heinze said was al
most identical with that OF the Amalga-
mated, through announcements which had
been made by the Sellings company.
Makes Palmer Statement.
He wanted to know to whom the state.
ments referred to had been made, and Mr.
Heinze finally came to the palmer state.
ment that Jesse Lewisohn had made the
statements. From that he receded to the
| proposition that he had talked to Lewisohn's
associates. and had had them from them.
lie declined to give the names OF the as
sociates. Mr.. Shores appealed to the court.
and the latter required Mr.. Heinze TO an
| swer. lie then said one man was Sam
koscnstan, chief salesman of the Settings
company.
lie added that the announcement had
been made through various trades Jour
nails. lie was sure it was made with att
| thority, as Mr. Lewisohn had not denied
IT. lie regarded Mr. Lewisohn as the
mouthpece of the Settings company.
Boston News Bureau.
He gave the name Of the Boston News
Bureau as one publication that had an
nounced what the Settings company would
pay for copper, in behalf of Mr.. Lewisohn.
DO you mean to say that the Settings
company announced in the Boston News
| bureau what it would pay for copper ?"
| Mr.. Shores asked and a smile followed.
| Mr.. Heinze answered the question in
| the affirmative, but he did not make il very
| clear how the trick had been ACCOMPLISHED.
lie was still under examination at last
accounts
Heinze on the Stand.
/. u. Heinze resumed the stand when
the case opened this morning.
| lie was questioned by Attorney Shores
OH the production of copper and the price
oil copper and of Amagamated stock in
1901. and other matters.
| Did MacGinniss become indebted I,
you at the time he bought his stock in
the Boston & Montana company?' Mr..
Shores asked.
| The court would not permit the wit
ness to answer on Attorney Mediation
objecting, and Mr.. Shores took an ex-
| ception.
The court would not let the witness
answer the next question, and Mr.. Shores
asked third, saying:
Is MacGnniss still indebted to Won
on account of the transactions between
you them"
| The court would not let the witness
answer that question, either.
Are you in the business of producing
"copper" was Mr.. Shores next question,
after he had remarked that he would not
pursue the line. of inquiry covered hy
the other questions
| Il am lieinze replied.
Several years in the business?"
| "Ycs"
Are you large producer?"
! "Ycs."
Production in June.
| s(a, yor recol1 tl,o ,,,,l,a.
OF copper the Montana Ore Purchasing
company produced in June, 1902" Mr..
Shores asked.
Mr.. Mediation objected. He could not
see the relevancy. Mr.. Shores Thought
the question was good. The court did
not interfere, and Mr.. Henze replied
u should say about 100000 pounds"
1T continued to increase during the
year. the output, didn't it."
81 think So"
1T exceeded 1000, 900, didn't it,"
"Well. don't think that it quite right"
Mr.. Heinze didn't think the output had
run up to 3,5oo,ooo, although the output
had been as high as that some time.
Didn't the M. o. p output fall off
materially in rooa?" Mr. Shores asked.
YES" was the reply.
"It got down to a little above million,
| didn't it?'
IA million and three-quarters was the
lowest, | think"
Combination Of Circumstances.
Then Mr. Heinze, in response to ques-
tions bearing on that point, said the falling
off OF production resulted from combi-
nation of circumstances
What is the monthly product now?"
About million and three-quarters."
"What was the total copper product of
the United States in 1902"
II don't rccollect exactly. I should i'm
agine about 5oo,ooo,ooo pounds" Mr.
Heinzc replied.
"Then you are producing about one
twentieth Of that?"
"Yes."
"What docs the Calumet & Hccla pro-
duce?"
"Seyenty or eighty millions, should