The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-11-17
Only SIX Republicans, Messrs. w. w.
Smith, Fordney, Loud, McMOran,
Brooks and Hogs, Voted Nay.
FEATURES OF THE DEBATE
DEMOCRATS NOT PERMITTED TO
OFFER AN AMENDMENT.
Speeches by Representatives Payne,
DaIxeII, williams and Robinson,
the Latter of Indiana.

WASHINGTON, Nov. 1.-THE House OF
Representatives considered the Cuban reci-
prccity bill to-day. Mr.. Dalzell (Rep.. Pa
reported a resolution providing that the
biz reported from the ways and means
committee should be considered. to the
exclusion OF all other business. until
o'clock Thursday, when a vote will be
taken without intervening motion
Mr.. Williams Dem., Miss.), speaking for
the minority in opposition TO the rule, de-
olarsd it was about the most drastic rule
ever introduced in the House. saying 1t
shut or all right to perfect the bill He
said the minority desired to offer an
amendment which proposed to strike out
the "double-barreled pledge" contained in
the bill. Applause from the Democratic
side greeted the statement that the bill
tears down one-ffth of the schedules built
up by the Republicans.
Mr.. Dalzeli, replying to the charge that
the rule was most drastic measure, re-
verted 20 the time when the Wilson bill
was pending. Mr.. Crisp being speaker,
saying that he commended the minority to
study Of their own parliamentary bis
Mr.. Grosvenor (Ohio) said the minority
wanted to mutilate the bill and say il is
a child OF theirs; but, he said. I'VE don't
want child or that kind born in this
house."
The rule was adopted-176 yeas to 155
nays The minority voted unanimously
against the rule. The Republicans voting
against its adoption were Messrs w. w.
smith, Fordney, Loud. MeMoran OF Mich
igan, Brooks and Hogg OF California.
With the announcement of the vote Mr.
williams (Miss.) asked unanimous consent
TO propose an amendment TO the rule for
yea and nay vote on the amendment pro-
posed by the minority. with twenty min
utes discussion on each side, a vote then
~ he n ID
tected. The amendment 1t was desired to
offer was the one decided on in the Demo-
cratic caucus Saturday night.
When the House went into committee of
the whole Mr.. Payne said that no harm
would be wrought to the sugar industry by
the legislation now proposed and likewise
the tobacco Industry could not be harmed
by the proposed new arrangement. He add
ed that no Industry would be affected by the
perfection sof the treaty He said in reply
TO an inquiry that he did not expect new
industries to be established while this queS-
tio6 ~ being agitated. Our national pride
In conclusion
Mr. Williams denied that the minority de-
sired 10 amend the bill in order TO kill it
to- Kill the treaty. He read the minority
report OF the committee on ways and means
giving the reasons why the minority desired
TO amend the bill. This report stated that
the bill should be amended by striking out
the provision that no reduction in sugar
duty should be made during the life of the
treaty, declaring that one Congress has no
inserting an amendment striking out the
differential on refined sugar because" the
report says. I'm bur opinion we would there
by deprive the great sugar trust Of this
country Of some OF its power to extort from
the consumer. curtail its power TO bear
down the price OF the raw material. there
by tn1urfng the sugar planter and lessen it's
ability TO dictate to wholesale and retail
dealers In sugar the manner In which they
shall do business and the price at which
they shall sell refined sugar"
Mr. Cooper, also a member of the mi
norfty or the ways and means, presented
report condernning the treaty In toto. Mr..
Cooper does not believe Cuban reciprocity
viii benefit either Cuba the United
States.
In his opinion he also says there are grave
doubts regarding the constitutionality OF the
bill The constitution. he says, makes it
the duty OF the House OF Representatives
to initiate all legislation touching the reve-
uues- To claim that the present bill origi-
mated In the House is a subterfuge.
Mr.. Williams, continuing his speech, held
the Republicans responsible for the fact
that the Cuban treaty is not in effect to-
day. Referring to Mr.. Payne, Mr.. Williams
said: AS 10 that part OF his speech which
advocates this bill upon its merits IL is
almost as sudden conversion as that OF
St Paul on his way to Damascus 1t is
almost as sudden an occurrence as was this
recent birth of the new republic OF Pan
ANA
Mr.. Robinson, of Indiana, taking as his
text treasury statement. argued against
the Republican policy. which he said was
that OF excessive taxation. He gave fg-
ures showing public moneys held by banks
throughout the country. commenting on the
way in which IL Is distributed and Charging
that II Is wrung from the people by the
present system OF taxation.
At AS p. m. the committee rose and the
speaker announced the following members
OF the committee on enrolled bills Messrs
Wachter of Indiana, Burke OF Pennsyl-
vania. Wilson of Illinois. F. X. Lands of
Indiana, Lloyd OF Missouri, Johnson of
South Carolina. Livernash OF California.
The last three are Democrats
A letter from Mr.. Bell OF Texas ANNOUNCE
ing his resignation was read The House
adjourned at 4:50 p. m