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The pioneer press. (Miller, Hand County, S.D.) 1893-190?, 1903-06-25
c. A. BLAKE, Register.
Not,ce 70 Creditors.

May 2St4
Notice 20 Creditors.
In the County Court for Hand County
State of South Dakota. '''
In the Matter OF the Estate of Charles K
Colver, Deceased. ~
All persons having claims against spid
mares n. ColVer licensed. are required TO
ers. tn the undersigned Administrator a.
SAID estate, at his home near the town "a,
Miller, In the said County Of Hand and
that four months have been limited az The
tine for creditors "a present their rIsims
against said estate.
Dated the 2Sth day ni MAY 1908.
LUuIS MANNING,
y III o.. Said Administrator
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Taken Up.

A 2 year old roam heller with.
tomahawk brand on left hip and
8 OH right. Call on p. A. New
conner, Sec. Is, Como twp. 2St3*
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Land For Sale Or Rent.

Land For Sale Or Rent.
NE 10, 1906.
Seq, 1926.
NE0, 112-66.
n + 3, 1886.
S W 81. 1896.
n W "a, 1866.
NJ NJ 4, 109-67.
SELF, 111-67.
NE2S, 111-67.
NJ S w & SE y W 30, 111-67.
NEl3, 1867.
SW 30, 111-6S.
n " 33. 1925.
:, LEA, 1865.
y + l, 1860.
Sc 20, 1909.
NE1, 114-69.
NE3, 114-69.
s W II. 114-69.
S w 30, 1860.
Sc 20, 1870.
SEP, 114-70.
SELF, 114-T0.
n W l3, 114-70.
n EDO, 114-70.
\ " so, 114-T0.
S W 30, 114-70. 19tf
S. V. Christ.
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May 2st4
NOTICE To CREDITORS.
state OF South Dakota

conn,v !, Hand, IS In Co. Court
In the Matter OF the Estate oil Jonas
Baum. Deceased.
TO the Creditors OF said Decedent, and
all persons having claims against said
Estate:
You are hereby, notified and required to
exhibit your claims against said deceased,
or his estate with the necessary vouchers.
TO 5. A. keenan,. who has been appointed
Administrator OF said Estate. Mt his office
la the village OF Clark. South Dakota, on or
before the % day of Septem .er, 1903.
Dated at Clark, South Dakota, May 10th.
1903.
S.A. KEENAN,.
Administrators OF said Estate,
SAX Clark, SD.
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For Sale.

One shorthorn bull, 4 years
old. Call on or write to s. l..
Wilkins, Miller, S. ID. 26t3 =
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June 25t6


June 25t6
Notice For ALLEGATION.
Department OF the Interior. Land Office
at Huron SO. OAK, June -, 1908.
Notice In hereby given that the following
named settler has filed notice OF his inten
ton to make final proof In support 81 his
cloim. and that said proof will be made be
fore the County Judge at Miller, y. D., on
August 4. 1903, viz:
DANIEL ii. PHILLIPS.
II. L, No. 1922, for the = T. "A Sec. 80. T..
100, ~. Il. 81 W. 18th p. III. -.
He names the following witnesses to prove
his continuous residence upon and cultiyu-
ton OF said land, viz:
james =, kammerdiner. Thomas H. in
tlgh. Amos V. wineg ar. William j. Morrow.
MI of Dean, \. ID.
CA. BLAKE. Register.
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Fly Nets.

a. f. Laverty has a choice col
lection of new fly nets. Gail and
see them. 26t3
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Big Cots.

q. II. Carroll wants to buy u
few yearling or two year olds.
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Department Of the Interior, Land Og.,
at Huron, south Dakota, June 1, 1908.
Notice y hereby given that the folIou,,r,,
named settler has filed notice Of her inta,ss
tIon To make hna proof Ia support OF her
claim, and that said proof will be- mad
before the County Judge at Miller, s. D.. ON
July II, 1903, viz: 'H
MAY MAXWELL.
II. +. No l5lOl, for the = W u See. , y
III ~, Il 30 W. 9Th 4. VI. - -
she names the following witnesses T.,
prove her continuous residence upon soJ
cultivation OF said land, viz: '"'
Lewis Laccosa. Fred .. Nillar, Robt. II
Ramey, "f Rec Heights. Duane Whitcomb
Miller, $. ID.
Z. A. BLAKE. Reglster.
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Financial statement.

Report OF the condition OF ,the First
National Bank 81 Miller. ut Miller in tina
State OF south Dakota, at the close OF
business, June 9th, 1908.
DESnIrDrES
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EStrayed.

About Dec. ! 1902 one brown
Ceiling, white hind feet, 3 years
old, weight about S00lbs. brand
ed BOX o) on left shoulder.
Please notify,
GEO. u. LIVINGSTON.
26t3 Miller S. ID.
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Money to loan on real estate
at s per cent interest. Address
j. H. KING, Huron S. d. Orcall
on j. l.. kEyEs. Miller, S. d.
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. x Purely Business. x
Oeeeeeeeeseseseeseeooeoes i

Hyou have anything to sell, or II you de-
sire to buy anything, three or four line
notice In the PRESS VIII bring results.
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For Sale.

An a grade Henry surrey in
good condition. Call on JGh!l
Pdsey, Miller s. ID. 2Gt3#
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Notice OF Application for Permit to
Sell Intoxicating LInnor..

Notice is hereby Given. That worro,
Hurst has this lav fled IN my office nm M
pltcittion for permit TO sell intoNicatino
liquors at reia all ut his building on Lot 10
blk. 4 In the first Ward OF the town of Mil
Ter, County OF Hand aud state of Sontb
Dakota. and that said application VIII Inc
heard by the board OF trustees of said town
CT Miller ON the eighth uay OF July 1903. M
eight o'clock y, M. at the town han az
which time any person or persons may an.
pear before said corporate authorities ana
EiNe any reason why such license sbOuld
not be received or permit granted 10 sell in
tOxicOring liquors at retail
Dated at Miller :. d., June II, 1903
WM HEALEY, Town Clerk
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CA. BLAKE. Register.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
THE TRADE-TRAIT.

An American dollar Is worth a dol.
lar. But is the article for which you
tender your dollar in payment a fair
exchange? Are you getting your mon.
ey's worth? Every nation is composed
of a mass Of individuals each one OF
which has in ais makeup a certain
trait called-trade. To trade means
to invest. A poor investment depre-
ciates the principal; entails loss. To
get the most, the best, for your money
shows the trade.tralt present in the
buyer and an honest endeavor on the
part of the seller to retain customers,
which means an advantageous mutual
exchange OF values.
Inasmuch as the DOUGLAS PAT.
emf CLOSET, guaranteed against
leakage and the annoyance of running
water, is a fair exchange, is proven to
be of genuine merit, is giving satisfac-
ton, why not install one? Bath, The
Plumber, lG5 King St, handles the
Douglas.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
pAAUHAU PLANS 70
RESUME DIVIDENDS

The annual meeting Of the Paauhau
Sugar Company was held at noon to-
day says the San Francisco Post of
March I. with an attendance of about
thirty stockholders,
The reports of the officers we're of n
most encouraging character.
There is now an abundance of labor
on that and all other plantations, and
much less friction.
The cooperative plan OF working a
portion of the plantation has been in
troduced with good effect.
A store has been established where
the laborers can procure their supplies
on reasonable terms. This is also q
great help 10 the labor situation.
The rains have been timely and
abundant Total for the year was
1854 inches. with one exception the
largest ever reported.
The drought OF 1901 was a severe
blow to the fields, and the yield for
1902 was only 1886 tons from 1850
acres.
The 1903 crop from 267O acres Is es-
timatcd at 5000 tons, and fully as large
a crop Is expected in 1901.
More economical facilities have been
introduced for getting the cane from
the fields to the mill through a gravi-
tation plan.
A new nine-roler mill Is recommend.
ed as eifecting a saving Of per cent in
saCCharine which alone would pay for
the same in two years on a 1900 ton
crop at present. prices.
Receipts from the poor crop of 1907
were SS2,7O3, while the disbursements
We're S225.792. Net funds on hand Jan
uary /. 1902 S54.94G: net overdraft on
December 81 1902, SSS.l43. against
which there were assets of s2,1OO, SOi
showing net assets Of S2,Ol2, GGl on De.
ccmber 81. 1902.
The new crop of sugar is now going
forward TO market in good shape
There is a hardening tendency to raw
sugar on the Atlantic seaboard. where
the price Of the Hawaiian crop Is made
This has been reflected in Q sharp adj
vance in refined grades in this market
II is predicted that the finances Of the
company will justify the resumption
OF dividends of 90 cents per share in
July, which can be maintained for the
remainder OF the calendar year.
The stock sold up 20 1874 this morn
ing the highest in long time.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
OWNS WASHINGTON POST.

New York, March ll.-Berish vii.
kins, owner Of the Washington Post,
has been stricken with paralysis in the
Waldorf-Astoria. lie was unconscious
late last night and unable TO recognize
the members of his family who had
been summoned to this city.
The attending physician said the
life Of Mr.. wilkins was trembling in
the balance. Although they hoped he
might recover they admitted that the
patient might pass away at any mo-
ment.
Mr.. wilkins was a representative
in Congress from Ohio fifteen years
ago. With Frank Hatton, former
Postmaster General, he acquired pos
session Of the Washington Post about
1890. Mr. wilkins returned from
abroad month ago. He had been in
i'll health for several weeks. Mr.. Will
kins is 81 years of age. He was born
in Ohio and was formerly a banker
in Uhrichsville, that state. He was an
Ohio state senator in 1879.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

for today to answer as per one OF our
former articles is, why do you pay
larger rates of dividends than other
financial institutions do?
First-You are a stakeholder In this
institution just the same as IL you
were a stakeholder in any other finan-
The certificate of investment stock
being distributed among a large num-
be of people and all due at different
times, puts It in a safe position, while,
II all the money was due at one and
the same time, 1t would be less feas-
ible.
As to the profit feature, these same
monthly installments give the Phoenix
an opportunity Of handling its money
half over again. In other words, II the
Phoenix had loans at per cent, the
handling OF the money over again will
produce a profit OF per cent addition
al to pay stockholders. and would not
have worked hardship upon the bor-
rover who is getting rid of his debt In
easy monthly installments, the same as
rent. On the contrary, the fiat loans
made by banks and individuals receive
their interest on money semi-annually
or annually, and are not'in a position
to replace 1t on loans II they receive
monthly installments as we do
Another safety feature Is the prem
lum placed upon persistency. In other
words, the man that withdraws pays
his proportion of the expenses and a
stated portion of his profits II he with
draws before his contract terminates.
DIRECTORS.
A. A. Watkins, Vice President W. w.
Montague & Co. and President Board
Of Trade. S. +.
Charles r. Bishop Oate OF Homo
LULU Vice President Bank OF Cali
fornia, S. f., Director Savings and
Loan Society, S. f. and Calf. Title In
surance and Trust Co., s. F.
S. Prentiss Smith, late Asst Cash
fer Bank OF California, S. f., Dir. The
National Bank OF d. o. Mills, Sacra-
mento.
George C. Boardman, Gen. Agent
Eetna Insurance Co, s. F., Director
San Francisco Savings Union.
Charles f. Laid, of Ladd G. Tllton,
bankers, Portland, Ore:
Gavin McNab, Attorney at Law.
Clarence Grange, late Building and
Loan Commissioner OF Montana, Man.
Dir, Equitable Savings & Loan Assn.
Portland, Ore.
sTRUSTEE.
Mercantile Trust Co. of San Fran
cisco.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

above sentence Is not intended to con.
vey the meaning that interest on de-
posits for call money should be large.
In fact. the banks are paying today a
very liberal rate for money subject to
call, and it would be hazardous for
them to pay larger rates. The question
cial institution. and consequently get
your full proportion Of profits, accord
ing to the stool; carried
Second-Wa loan money on Install
ments. thereby getting the use OF the
money one-half over again.
Third-A premium is placed upon
persistency by eXactlng from the with
drawing member sufficient for his por-
ton of expenses aud also a certain por-
ton Of his prDats.
Fourth-Wa compound and handle
money monthly.
Fifth-In case OF stringent times the
profits from Withdrawals are added to
the ones who stay through.
Sixth-ln case of good times the en-
panding of business produces a larger
field for loans. which enables us to put
out paid up stock through our direct
ors and other large financiers, and
guarantee a rate of six per cent. The
difference between the said six per
cent and the dividend rate of the COM
paTy Qess small pro rata OF expenses)
is turned into the installment stock.
Wouldn't you like to have your mon
ey operated by the side OF and oper-
ated by the men below, VINO are the di-
rectors and managers of the Phoenix
Savings, Building and Loan Associa-
ton?
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
CONSERVATISM.
FINANCIAL ARTICLE NO. 6.


1t show conservatism In bank to pay
low rates of interest, why is 1t that
the Phoenix Is such safe institution
and pays such high dividends? This
seems to be the sticking" point with
a great many prospective building and
loan investors. but we do not blame
them, as they have never had the
building and loan system properly ex-
planned to them, or have never given
1t as much thought as they have their
other ordinary affairs.
Ban6s have great deal Of their
money subject to call, and have to. for
this reason, make short term loans,
with their money or interest all due
at one time. You can draw your de-
posits out whenever you want, On
the contrary, the Phoenix makes moth.
Ing but long term installment loans,
not repayable under a year, and they
can run as long as ten; consequently,
these loans, being repayable in month
Iy payments OF principal and interest.
they receive sufficient each month to
pay all Withdrawing members and
make what good loans come to them.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
ONE BID FOR MANILA FRANCHISE

A syndicate. headed by Charles
Swift Of Detroit. Mich. and including
the Westinghouse Company and White
Il Co. was the only bidder for the Ma
nilt street railroad franchise. The in
terests represented in the syndicate
combined and purchased the franchise
and the property of the old Spanish
company. The German bidders with
drew. The Swift syndicate offers the
government fortieth part of the gross
earnings. which will probably be ac-
cepted.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
INTERFERENCE.
FINANCIAL ARTICLE NO. S.
do

we interfere with other financial in
situations is the question often asked.
We do not, as the system of lOaning
by us is strictly installment loaning
which the banks Yhd private money
lenders do not care about doing Our
money is placed on peoples homes and
business places repayable part inter-
est and part principal each month I'M
til the loan Is fully paid off. We offer
special inducements to the small in
weston in this financial institution, and
centralize small monthly payments
from a large number of people who
probably have never saved to amount
to anything before. The large sums
that we receive are from capitalists
who are tired of making fiat loans and
worrying with the bother and trouble
OF selling out the security which would
come back to them and are satisfied
that to have their money managed by
experienced financiers who guarantee
them against loss Is much better than
investing their own money No
money deposited with us can be
withdrawn within one yea. for that
reason our proposition applies to peo-
pie who have made up their mind to
deposit for ce, tain number Of years
if possible, and who would not on ac-
count Of small interest rates offered
on call money, deposit with any regu-
larty through other sources The
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
FREAK KANSAS LAW.

A bill re-enacting the nuisance clause
o. the prohibitory law recently de-
clared unconstitutional by the Safe
Supreme Court, has passed both houses
of the Kansas Legislature. The clause.
which was one Of the most important
in the act. had, according to the court,
been repealed by the Hurrell law, a
measure that grew out of the Carrie
Nation crusade.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

The statement that the Postoffice
request for telegraph communication
through Falmouth, with the wireless
station at Poldhu is understood to be
substantially true says London dis
patch to the Tribune. The concession,
however, does not improve much the
prospects of an early establishment of
a commercial wireless service between
England and America. Marconi has
not yet been able to persuade the Post
master General to allow messages des-
tined for transmission across the ocean
by wireless system to be handed in like
cable messages at any telegraph Office
in the United Kingdom.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
r. e. KINGS LIST.
FOR RENT.

FIVE ROOM COTTAGE, at Cottege
Grove, King st.
FURNISHED ROOM: fronting on King
ST.; bath and electric light. At Cot
tage Grove.
TWO ROOM COTTAGE, with bath
mosquito proof, electric light, water
$40 per month. At King Place, near
the German Church. Beretania st.
FOR SALE.
FOUR cottages known as King Place,
near German Church, Beretania St
THE LEASE OF lots at the Beach
with cottage, barn and bath-house
of eleven rooms, IS years to run.
Price, $500; 5000 down; balance
s25 per month.
FOR LEASE.
LOT at the BEACH, with water, fenc'
ed; bath .house. Lease S75 per year
r. e. KING,
Cottage Grove, King Street.
Tel. White 1861.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
The BUSINESS MANS HANDY IN

The BUSINESS MANS HANDY IN.
pEx, published in the Saturday BuIle.
tin and the Weekly Edition, gives a
concise and complete resume Of all lie.
gal notices, calls for tenders, juda.
ments, building permits and real es.
tate transactions. Evening Bulletin,
rs cents per month. Weekly Bulletin,
81 per year.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
SHAKESPEARE At WlH|AWA

A most creditable performance Of
Shakespeare's Midsummer Nights
Dream" was given at Wahiawa on Sat.
urday evening. The production was
arranged and directed by Miss Edna
Bevans, the school.teaCher at the
colony. and was so far above the aver.
age of amateur Shakepearian efforts
that it was a revelation to those pres.
ent, more especially as those taking
part were obliged to rely on their own
resources for scenery, costumes and
properties. The costumes were beauti.
full and would show to advantage on
any stage.
The play was given at the home OF
Mr.. Kellogg, and the parts were taken
by Miss Bevans and her pupils assisted
by other residents of the colony.
The Kellogg home is so large that
there was no lack Of room for audience
and players, though many present, to
whom the performance was a reveal.
tion in merit and artistic quality, ex.
pressed regret that it could not be seen
with the proper stage surroundings, at
the Opera House in Honolulu.
The programs were printed and dec.
GRATED by the school children, who also
composed some of the fairy music,
A repetition of the performance will
be given in the open air as soon as the
weather will permit
Great credit is due Miss Bevans to
whose enthusiasm and untiring effort
the success Of the production is due.
The cast of characters was as fol
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
FOUND.

FouND-Insurance against the break
age Of plate glass at The Honolulu
Investment Co. 2051-tf
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
ROOM AND BOARD.

AT WAHIAWA-$l0 per week; 81 per
day. Stage Tuesdays and Fridays.
Address, Mrs. Caroline Rhodes. Wa.
hiawa, oahu. 23S9.1m
THE BEST and most centrally located
mosquito proof rooms in town, from
$3.50 per week up. Helen's Court,
OFF Hotel st. rear Elite building.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
HOW TO MAKE MoNEY-we OF

BOWERS MERCHANT PATROL AND
CONFIDENTIAL AGENcY-Compe.
tent vatchmen furnished for bust
Rsss houses and residences. Ofrlce,
IT'S Beretania ST.; Tel. White 991;
z. o. Box 2S4.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

HELLcI Have you dandruff? Try
2scheco's Dandruff Killer. At I'm
ion Barber Shop.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
BUSINESS DIRECTORY
ATTORNEYS.

D. KALAuoKALAsl Jr -Attorney.at.
Law, with T. MaCarts Stewart, Coun.
selor.at.La~ Mcintyre building, cor.
Fort and .ltng Sta. P o. Box SEQ.
TelephUne isl. Honolulu, T. II.
235i.Im
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
HOTELS.

OCCIDENTAL HoTEL-All convent
ences. Hot and cold baths. Tele-
phone. First-class system. Fine
rooms 80 per week. King and Ala.
kea Streets. Best Csc meals In city.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

This 10 the cheapest advertising ever
offered the people Of Honolulu.
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Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18
ISLAND OF MAUI, LARAINA.

SUGAR ESTATES, MAGNIFICENT
SCENERY, BEAUTIFUL DRIVES,
SHIPPING FACILITIES, ETC.
Evening bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1895-1912, 1903-03-18

ORDER rig from Pioneer Stables. Ele-
CANT turnouts: Telephone No. 1876. &
Canyon City news. (Canyon City, Tex.) 1903-1908, 1903-05-08
AMONG OUR EXCHANGES.
Clippings From Last Weeks Exchanges.

Just as our folks were feeling
sure of peach crop and plenty
of all other fruits, along comes
a freeze that lays everything
low. On Wednesday night we
had freeze that took nearly or
quite all the fruit that had sur
vived the freeze of some days
past. This cold snap was un-
precedented in this country and
was unlocked for; and was much
colder than its predecessor,
making heavier ice. This cold
snap was 4 surprise to all the
old settlers, and shows them
that they still had something to
learn about this country.-Hale
County Herald.
At a meeting of the Stock.
holders of the Tulia exchange
on Saturday the 25th the follow
ing officers were elected: H. D.
Barnes M. d. President, |. l..
Edwards V Pres, w. G. Hulsey
Sec. and Treasurer.
Directors: H. D. Barnes, l. B.
Edwards, w. G. widdie, ], L.
Edwards, w. G. Hulsey, r. M.
Ray. 1t was decided to build
the line from here to Canyon
City, and put in an exchange in
Tulia, work to be commenced as
soon as the material can be OBJ
tanned.
Said line to run from here to
Frank Scott's place, then north