The times dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1903-1914, 1903-02-21
Committee Goes Against City
Attorney Pollard.
SCORES OF AMENDMENTS
insist on Transfers Being Given at Points
oflntersectiona and Divergence Both.
The Company's Officials
Withdraw.

universal. and an open breach with at
torneys and other officials OF tho street
railroad companies last night, the sub
Street Committee, after session Of
three hours, adjourned, declaring posi-
lively that It had performed its duty
to the citizens Of the city.
So great was the difference between
company officials and City Attorney Pol
lard on the one side and certain mem
bers OF the committee on the other that
the representatives OF tho car company,
Messrs. Miles NJ. Martin and Alex. Gut
gon. OF the legal department, and s. w.
Huff. general manager OF the operating
department. practically withdrew from
the conference. refusing absolutely to
participate In the deliberations 1t may
be also stated that change after change
In the proposed scheme were made by
the committee in direct variance to the
advise OF Mr.. Pollard, who insisted
without avail that this or that amend
ment could not be enforced by the city.
WERE DIVIDED.
The action OF the sub committee In rec
ommending the amended transfer scheme
was not unanimous. In fact, the mem
bers seemed so much divided that It was
next to impossible to ascertain just how
they stood. However, 1t may be stated
that Messrs. Whittet. Bahen and West
voted for the recommendation, while
Messrs Adams and Phillips took oppo-
site views.
Mr. Phillips appeared strenuously OPP
posed to recomm ending the system. al
though he sided with a majority OF the
body at several times when transfer
points were under consideration for
amendment. He favored submitting for
consideration to the Street Committee
the plan In toto as prepared by the
car companies. Chairman Adams was
opposed to both this amendment and the
adoption OF the amended report.
When the session terminated Captain
Gugon and Major Martin were outspo-
ken in their statements. They declared
the responsibility on their shoulders,
while, as a matter OF record, 1t was a
majority OF the body that was standing
In the way of universal transfer sys-
tenn.
LED THE FIGHT.
Mr.. Whittet. who 1t may be stated led
the fight against the proposed plan. said
that the car companies We're bound to
have only certain system. He claimed
that the corporations were not willing
to make compromise for the benefit Of
their patrons. and would submit to alb.
solutely no scheme unless 1t was in
direct accordance with their plans.
III IeIlS. Captain HulBOIi Sdlu ludI lue
car companies had manifested many
willingness to place in operation an
improved, universal transfer system.
They had offered plan. which infringed
upon their original grants, and which to
his mind was the fairest proposition that
had ever been made the city Of Rich
mond by an outside corporation. He
said that the companies would see to
1t that the public was made to under
stand the true inwardness OF the case,
that certain Council members were en-
tirely responsible for the delay and un-
necessary hold-up.
Despite that the difference between the
committee and the street car representa-
tives fell out early in the evening, the
representatives remained in the room, but
paid little or no heed to the
deliberations or this or that motion to
amend the ordinance. Captain Guigon
shortly excused himself for sandwich
and when he returned he was armed with
copy of the Smart Set. This he glanced
through from time to time during the
balance OF the evening. Later, he said
book and wished it understood that his
attention to the magazine was due to
no desire on his part to be dscourteous
to the committee.
THOSE PRESENT.
Messrs. Adams (chair1nan), whittet
Phillips, West and Bahen, representing
the city, with Mr.. Pollard. were on hand
in room No. at the given hour Of
meeting. Captain Russell, an interested
member OF the City Council. was also on
hand. From the car companies were Cen
eral Manager Huff and Superintendent
Buchanan, of the operating departments,
and Messrs. Guigon and Martin. Of the
legal department. They We're armed with
a dozen or more copies of the proposed
ordinance, a copy Of which was printed
In The Times-Dispatch several days ago.
The caption follows:
ITO fix the points of transfer Of pas
sengers between the Richmond Traction
Company and the Richmond Passenger
and Power Company. and between the
lines Of the Richmond Passenger and
Power Company and between the lines
Of the Richmond Traction Company. and
to prescribe direction in which passengers
are to be transported by said conn anies
when received on such transfers
Under the head of section one, the first
clause in the proposed scheme stated
that going east on the Main-Street line
transfers would be granted both east and
west to Clay-Street line at Twenty-first
Street. This did not pass, for Mr.. Whit
tet moved to amend by requiring the CON-
pany to only give transfers east from
this point. He followed this suggestion
curing the company to also give trans
fer west to their Clay-Street line at
Seventh.
AT TWO POINTS.
AS will readily be seen, this would be
making tho points of transfer both at
places of intersection and divergence,
which, under existing conditions, applica-
Bile to the situation. City Attorney Pollard
holds the city cannot do, 1t may be
Imagined that Mr., Martin had kick to
make. Tie was followed by Mr., Guigon,
but, nevertheless, by vote of 3 to 2, the
suggestion was adopted.
So far as the company officials were en-
cerned 1t was all over. They Withdrew
from tho room FOR minute, and upon
returning Mr.. Martin explained mas
much as tho committee had seen fit to
decide so Important point, despite tho
Views Of the city attorney to the contrary,
he could see no need of n further confer
ence. From that time out car officials
did not participate In the discussion, al
though tho opinion OF MI. Pollard was
once or twice moro overrdden,