The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1903-02-10
QUESTIONS BY JUDGE GRAY
WHO OBJECTED TO USE OF THE
WORD "wAR" FOR STRIKE.
President Baer, of the Reading, Goad-
ed Into Interrupting the For
mer Congressman.

| fore the coal strike commission for the next
| six days. were begun to-day when the
miners, through Daniel j. Mccarthy, of
| Hazelton, made the opening argument. Mr.
Mccarthy was followed by Henry Lloyd,
| of Chicago who confined his efforts to the
question of recognition of the union and
yearly trade agreements, and former Con-
gresham Brumm, of Minersville, who made
general argument.
Mr.. Mccarthy in opening said: I'm all
) ages there have been times when IL became
necessary to redress certain grievances and
wrongs, and it always seems as though
Providence provided the proper instrument
| at the proper time to accomplish the de-
| sired result. We find Moses TO deliver
| the people of Israel; find a Napoleon;
| we find Washington. a Lincoln, Grant,
a Mckinley and a Roosevelt. These have
all labored in the cause of humanity and
| liberty. Just as the clouds hung heavily
over the mine workers Of this country a
new star appeared in the armament to dis
| pei the clouds and admit a ray of sunshine
| into the miners life. This star has not
risen in the east, but in the west-John
| Mitchell
| Mr.. Mccarthy spoke of the hardships of
| the miners, reviewed their recent struggle
| and the evidence, and I'm conclusion said:
| ION account of the great increase in the
| cost of living at least 20 per cent. increase
! in wages is imperative. With all the argu-
| mentS in favor of the recognition of the
| union there is rome stronger than the high
| character of the miners leader John
| Mitchell has been through the fire and
| has been tested. Pure gold and no dross in
his composition. no yellow streak in his
| blood, his honor his honesty and sincerity
| of purpose has never been questioned. He
| stands out boldly in his sterling integrity
| and like the diamond in the rough, the more
| you rub ii the brighter II Shines"
MIR. LLOYD'S ARGUMENT.
Henry Demarest Lloyd, of Chicago, ar
| gued for the fourth demand of the mine
| workers. that for the recognition of the
| union and trade agreement. He said, in
part: There can be no monopoly if nom
union men as well as union are allowed to
work side by side. Your. award, by fixing
the terms of employment, will remove the
special cause of anger and enmity. 1t is
not the nonunion man the unionist fears
but the 'scab the strike breaker by trade
who lives by getting odd jobs of industrial
assassination at high wages and loafs be-
tween whites on the theory that il is better
| TO have loafed and lost than never to have
| loafed at all. The trade agreement has
put an end to sympathetic strikes, and has
| created in their place the novel institution
| of sympathetic arbitration. When the mas
| tiers in this business make contracts with
| other capitalists they insist on full notice
| never cream Oh being allowed TO manage
| more than their side of the bargain. They
| who insist on all this for themselves face
| about and make arrangements with the
| miner in which they refuse him every
| right of negotiation and representation they
| claim for themselves. The strike of
last summer was the Waterloo of capital
istic absolutism in this country. Organized
labor never did civilization a greater service
than when it whipped this master to a
finish and settled. let il be hoped, for the
third and last time in America that the
IN w &c
is slavery and that in free business there
are as many masters as there are parties -
During Mr.. Lloyd's argument, Chairman
Gray interrupted him with this question:
What have TO you say regarding nonunion
men who prefer TO continue at work
through the strike, in the exercise of the
right that they suppose they have, those
who are not strike-breakers and do not
loaf between times?
of course, in doing that" Mr.. Lloyd
replied they are strictly within their legal
rights, but to me they seem to violate
moral duty of the highest sanctity, which
is that a man must do what he can to help
along a necessary struggle for the eleva-
ton of his own class and of society at
large"
Are such men protected by the union -
THE union certainly withdraws no legal
protection from them" said Lloyd. '"They
| are not protected by the union from being
visited with that obloquy which properly
| falls upon a man who will not join in a
common effort for the common good
should class this man precisely with the
loyalists in the American revolution.
characterize the strike as an industrial war
as an incident in great uprising.
ONLY ONE KIND OF WAR.
In reply to this the chairman said: "In
our theory there is only one war making
power and that is the great union repre-
scented by the government of society; and
they tolerate no wars-strictly wars-inside
of their influence or sphere. We may for
| ho lya nf rhafOric nj
the war, but there can be no war tolerated
in the proper sense, within any peaceful
community governed by law"
In reply Mr.. Lloyd said: There would
be no necessity even for the pictorial use
of the word war if society would only or
| ganize this sphere of conflict so that
proper methods of settlement could be
| reached. The world in which strikes &C.
cur, which are called war, is world which
society at large has so far refused to or
| ganiZe except in the case of New England
| apprehend that one of the greatest re-
suits 10 be hoped for from this commission
| is that you push forward one step farther
the evolution of the development of some
organic authority in that field OF conflict
Mr.. Lloyd was followed by former Con-
| gresham Charles NJ. Brumm. who occu-
pied the time up 10 the adjournment. His
| argument was principally in support of the
demand for the recognition of the union
| Mr. Brumm was directing many of his re-
| marks at President Baer, who was sittine
close to him. The Reading president gave
| him close attention, and when Mr.. Brunn
in an oratorical flight said that Mr. Baer
| denied at the eleventh hour that he had
ever said twenty-one murders were COM
| mitted in the coal regions; that he did not
| deny IL until the statement was permitted
TO go over the country and receive full eff
feet Mr.. Baer jumped up and exclaimed:
, | WAS not IL lie? Did / ever say il -
| The suddenness of the interruption evil
| IDENTIFY did not disturb Mr.. Brumm. who re-
| piled: "One moment; will answer that"
Mr.. Baer was not satisfied and he said
with great earnestness You said / die
. not deny 1t until the eleventh hour. What
| do you mean?"
II said you did not deny il until recent.
ly." to which Mr.. Baer replied, oh"
IF you had waited" said Mr. Brumm
, you would not have asked the question"
What Is II you want to make out-that
| 1 did say it," persisted Baer.
; Mr.: Brumm: No; 1 said you did moi
| say it,"
THAT is different" remarked Mr. Bael
as Chairman Gray raped for order anc
requested Mr.. Brumm TO proceed with his
argument
| Mr. Brumrl. however. took parting shot
. | and retorted TO Baers remarks: II do criti.
| else you. however, for not denying at the
; time what appeared in the newspapers"