The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1903-06-25
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dent did not issue the orders. Vida
said they were all tarred with the same
brush; that the superintendent had
been named often and it had done no
good so he was determined to get after
some one. He said he would agree
to the special committee and if the
facts were proven then he would ask
the House TO pass the resolution. And,
he said he would prove other things
too.
Paele said that any one could recog-
nize the Hawaiian stone as being Sc
cured for the Iwilei road and conse-
quently it was illegal for Campbell to
take them. He said Bishop street was
not government road.
Fernandez, of Hawaii. declared there
should be immediate action. He de-
nounced Compbell, saying he was
candidate for Superintendent of Pub
lie Works, yet in the opinion of Fer
nandez, he was not man who should
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ment even for nothing.
The motion of Harris to refer to
Special Committee was carried and the
committee named was Harris, Vida
and Purdy.
The House then took a recess until
two o'clock.
FIGHT OVER VETOES.
AS soon as the House got together
PaeIe moved to reconsider the vote by
which the Amara Fire Claim veto was
sustained. Andrade asked him If the
necessary 90 votes were at hand and
he smiled. Harris made the point of
order that Paele voted in the minority
in that he voted with the side which
did not prevail. The Organic Act IRE
scribes that twenty votes are neces-
sary to carry the motion to override
the veto so the motion not being car
ried the minority was the losing side.
Paele urged that in 1901 in the Legis-
lature when the Lady Dog Bill was up
the veto was sustained one day, re-
considered the next and so became law
Speaker Beckley said that the records
show that Paele voted with the seven
teen as against the six, and the mo-
ton falling to pass the member did not
vote with the winning side. The veto
of the Governor was sustained by the
failure to secure a two-third vote and
to reconsider now would be a question
of law, and according to that 1 do not
think Section fifty conflicts with the
rule of the House which permits the
member to claim the privilege of max
ing the motion to reconsider.
Harris raised the second point that
there was a motion to.reconsider made
yesterday and that motion having car
ried there can be no second motion to
reconsider the action on the veto. The
chair ruled, however. that the motion
affected only the remaining items of
the veto message. consequently those
passed upon could be reconsidered.
There was a long discussion. the
reading of stenographic notes and the
expression of a variety of opinions.
Beckley stuck to his point that the
word majority must be construed
numerically and not as bearing upon
the question of the winning side of
the proposition.
FINALLY OUT OF ORDER.
Harris again raised the point that
since the House had postponed con-
sideration of the Governors message
until Thursday nothing looking to &C
ton upon any section of it could be
pressed until that vote had been recon-
sidered.
Andrade tried to solve the question
by suggestion that the Attorney Cen
eral should be asked for an opinion.
Paele made the point that this was
his last chance for reconsideration but
the Speaker held that his motion was
sufficient to protect his privileges I'M
der the rules of the House. Finally
the chair held that the motion to post
pone consideration until Thursday was
in reality a reconsideration of the Ka-
lama motion to take up the veto, and
ruled out of order the Paele motion.
Kumalae then moved to reconsider
the vote for which action was post
poned on the veto until Thursday, |
which carried. twenty-one to seven.
The motion to defer consideration I'M
til tomorrow therefore came up again
and on this the vote was ayes twelve,
noes sixteen.
Keliinoi moved to defer consideration !
to Friday which was lost by eleven to
fourteen. a motion to adjourn was
likewise lost.
LAND DAMAGES OVERRIDDEN.
Fernandez moved to override the
Kalua item. but the point of order was
made that the consideration proceed
item by item which was ordered and
the Keoho land claim next came up. |
Fernandez making the motion to- over
ride.
Paele began to criticise the Governor
for referring to what went on in the
House, saying that the House did not
pretend to know what went on in the !
Senate. until he was called to order. |
Harris showed that the claimant ask
ed nearly $4,000 an acre. which was too
much The veto was overridden by |
twenty-one to seven; those opposed
being Andrade. Gandall. Greenwich, !
Harris. Jaeger. Knudsen and Long.
The KamakaheikuIi land damage
claim came UP and the veto was over
ridden by exactly the same vote.
KALUA VETO SUSTAINED.
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