The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 18??-19??, 1903-02-17

O'Clock, having stopped fifteen minutes
at enc place and one hour for dinner,
! making tWcnty-thrcp miles in apUroxi-
nately eight hours. On the next day he
walked from the foot OF the ridge over
the bad part to Marion. He was with
tho rear squad and heard no guard curse
q convict and saw no man drive orc or
urge them on. Only two men fell out
of the rear squad. He told the same
story Of the drive with the sick last fall.
no men fell in the mud, he said, and he
helped men out Of wagons and no citi-
zen offered assistance.
IL answer to Mr.. Morton he said he
was present all the time Of the unload
ing and that it was not raining much.
He saw 40 sick man attempt to get
cut Of the wagon and nave to hold % the
muddy wheels to keep from falling. He
said that when men gave out he would
cut the shackles and put them on mules
He saw no guard threaten a mar with
his gun and no convict fan on his knees.
Mr.. Morton asked if he saw a convict
sick and vomiting in the streets of Ma
rion, which he denied.
When they reached Marion after the
November rainy day drive he took the
men out of the wagon. He heard no
Cursing on that last march.
Mr.. Pharr tried TO learn if the guards
were abstaininG from cursing on that
day. He said he did not see the shoeles5
man whom Capt. Lashley saw. The day
was rainy and the road pretty muddy.
He said they left Spruce Pine before day
and it was time for the mon to be in
quarters when they reached Marion.
He could not remember how many men
in his squad gave out. He said when a
man couldn't so they would put them on
mules and that if two men with shacklcs
gave out they put both OF them on the
same mule in one or two cases before
they had cold chiscIs with which to cut
the shackles.
B. b. J~effrieS, a guard, called by Mr..
Mann, said he was on the march. The
men who gave out, he said, were put on
mules. He heard no cursing and saw no
cruelty or urging from the guards.
In November he was on the march. Mr..
Morton asked if a man fell in the mud.
The witness said he did not see such a
case but could not be persuaded to say
more than what he saw. He gave no
direct answer.
He said the mud was from two to two
and half inches deep. He heard no curs-
ing and saw no convicts without shoes
and saw 10 convict fall on his knees and
heard no guard say Get up, damn you,
you must come He said he saw no
threat with a gun from a guard.
IN answer to Mr.. Pharr he said IN No
vCmber all the wagons drove up near the
PLATFORM, one By the platform and the
others whore it was not muddy. He said
the average depth of the mud on January
march was two and a half Or three inches
deep and corrected the minimum to two
inches. He said they had plenty to eat.
The guards had biscuit, meat and cot
fee. He said he thought all of tho con
victs were fed at SUPPER, and heard no
complaint. He said there was some wa
ter on one side of Toe river when the
c~cnvicts We're crossing the ice. Mr.. Mann
asked witness if a convict approached a
guard near enough to grab his gun if it
was not the duty to stop them. He
said it was.
Mr.. Warren said to Mr.. Mann that the
commission would ask thai the Witnesses
be removed so as to be examined scpG-
rately as up to this time all were pres
cnt at the hearing.
DR.. ]. J. Rogers said he received the
sick men when they arrived in Raleigh
from Marion. Two were chronic cases.
One tuberculosis. One was discharged
from the hospital February 1st and tive
arc improved but still in the hospital
He said the general condition Of the
men when they arrived was good.
In answer to Mr.. Morton. DR.. Rogers
said one Of the men who were on the
march had died since, but IN his opinion
as a physician the exposure at Marion
did not affect the case.
l.. j. Busbee, of Raleigh, who was q
foreman on the railroad when Capt
Lashley was in the mountains, was next
too IL bod boon IN tJn n,npIn|- ~
the prison for eight years. In answer
to Mr.. Mann's questions he said he knew
the man Wiseman. who testified at Ma
rjon. Mr.. Mann read the testimony o
Nisethau, who said guards had cursed
men and that other cruelty had followed
and that Mr.. BusBSo had p%rofanely com.
manded them to move on besides beinS
guilty of brutality.
Mr.. Busbee said he did not curse an,
convict, that when the men had given on
he had put the four couples OF
mules. Two shackled couples he put OF
two mules, and the two on each mul'
faced each other. He could not Gu
their shacklcS. He said he cursed dur
,ng the move, but did not curse any man
1t was stated by Mr.. Mann that Mr.
Busbce and several others made the tril
to assist Capt. Lashley and that thei
IhIIlo'S SlC lo4N ~ "AC
FOR tina purpose. They were not thcl
n the employ of the prison.
Ny Busbee said the mud was from
} -hrec to four inches deep and he saw on
convict riding with but one shoe. II
saw no mon wade streams. He said tina
he is now in the employ of the prison
He testified that he had three convict
lclp hiIu with the unloading and tina
, they we're fed after the stock had bee
, put up. He made a complete denial o
the charges of the witness Wiseman.
j. ]. Bernard, of Raleigh, Register o
Deeds of Wake county, was placed on tn
=. stand. He said he knew Mr.. Busbec an
] saw him four or five times a year. II
/. said Mr.. Bushels reputation is gooo
AS for cursing he did not know Nj
Busbce cursed.
: &. R. Jolly, jeweler. OF this city. place
/ On the stand, said he had known Nj
Busbce for ten or twelve years and hi
reputation was good.
n J. T. Bland, a salesman at cross
. Linehan's, said he had known Mr.. Bus
s bee for two years and would consider III