Arizona republican., 1902-01-29

that the senator read the decision of
the supreme court.
II have read some of those deci-
siors," Mr.. Tillman said. but, with
four Judges on one side nd four on the
other and the fifth one wabbling,
could not make much out of them
Mr.. Spooner: The supreme court
settled one thing. and that is that there
is a distinction between the United
States and the territories belonging to
the United States
While Mr.. Spooner was proceeding
with his speech he was interrupted by
Mr. Tfllman and in a moment sensa-
tional colloquy was in progress.
Mr.. Tillman inquired: ''Will the SEN
ator allow me to ask if the Platt
amendment had been defeated by de-
bate until the end of the session. would
that side nave had the courage to have
gone forward in its philanthropy, hu-
manity, Christianity and liberty and
all that kind of thing and have called
extra. session"
Mr.. Spooner: we have courage
enough on this side to do anything on
earth"
Mr.. Tillman: Except to defend the
negro
Mr.. Spooner: I'VE have not courage
enough to lynch colored men or deprive
them of their rights.
Mr.. Tillman: Does the senator de-
sire to discuss the race question here.
He seems to have let the proposition
which he started on to throw personal
fling at me. 1 am ready to meet him
anywhere on the race question:
Mr.. Spooner: whenever the senator
is willing to meet me on that question
or any other he will find inc there. SO
far as that is concerned. The senator
has addressed to me an observation
rather offensive in it's character"
Mr.. Tillman: 1T certainly had no
allusion to iynching.
Mr.. Spooner: Nc"
Mr. TiIImen: And the senator un-
derstands very well I come from a sec
tiCn of the country where lynching for
given crime and for n good many
other crimes is very prevalent. Now.
does the senator wish to leave the
Philippines proposition. in which he is
dealing with a coIored people in q
most Infamous and damnable and
hypocritical way, and go south and hold
the negroes up as examples that we are
dealing with in a similar way? / mean
the colored people here at home. Are
gard to colored people. one in the Phil
ippnes, by which we butcher them and
shoot Christianity into them, and .n-
other in the south. where we are al
lowed TO protect our wives and chill
dren.
mr. Spooner: "If we had the same
rule for the colored people in the Phil
ippines as the senator refers to in the
south, God help the colored man in the
Philippines
MIR. Tillman: God help the men in
the Philippines. You have already
butchered IN three years three times as
many as the spaniards did in three
centuries
Mr.. Spooner: Tits one thing to kill
men with arms on thelr hands against
the government and against the flag.
II is another thing to burn tbein."
MIR. Tillman: You burned ~shem in
Kansas, SIR
Mr.. spooner: Wherever it is d0se.
it is an outrageous crime y
Mr. -Tillman: "Oh, it is a very easy
thing for a man who has not come in
contact with them in close quarters to
theorizc and sentimentaIize as to what
other people ought to do
Tfllman was admonshed by the presi-
dent pro tenn that he must not inter
rupt the senator without first obtain
ing leave, to which he replied that he
was taunted ill ID way that no white
man from South Carolina can submit
to-. After little colloquy. Mr.. Till
man asked Mr.. SpoOner:
When you quoted the constitution a
ago in regard to the poYe.- of |
in dealing with territory and |
other property did you include men as |
other property whose liberty and lives !
and all rights are to be jeopardized or
destroyed in this country. and whether
they are property: whether people are
You bought them at Sc a |
head. it is true. but did you intend to /
give them their liberty as we propose
or do you propose to hold them under
the bayonet, under carpet bag gov !
more damnable than Won nut
on us in 1S6S?''
THAT is the old question" repIjed !
Mr. Spooner 1.-The power to occupy
nha bited territory involves power. 1 /
to change the allegiance. We /
acquired Louisiana. No. one ever p1-e-
tended that men and women were
bought and sold in that transaction"
At the conclusion of Mr.. Spooner's
Mr.. Teller Colorado offered /
The following amendment to the pend
ng bill as a separate resolution:
BE it further enacted that the con-
stitution and all the laws of the United
States which are not locally inappIica-