The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1902-05-22
Bullets Exhibited by the Witness Not
Different from the Regulation
Army Cartridges.
Mr.. BEvERIDGE'S QUESTIONS
BASIS OF THE STORY OF VIOLATION
OF SPANISH WOMAN.
Senators Patterson, Lodge and Deit-
rich Involved in N Hented Colo
quy-Advfces from Manila.

unteer I1fanJry, was before the Senate
COMMITTEES the Philippines to-day and
produced the alleged "dum-dum," or ex-
plosive bullets. He said they were not like
the ordinary cartridges. because they did
not have the letters ~. s. on them.
General Crozier, chief of ordnance. was
called and testified that the cartridges
were the same as the regulation Krag-
Jorgensen. 1t is explained that sometimes
the action Of these bullets produced serious
results. O'Brien was recalled and ques-
toned concerning certain features of his
previous testimony. During the course of
his examination Senator'S Dietrich and Pat
terson became involved in quite a sharp
controversy as 10 the propriety of certain
questions asked the witness.
General Crozier in the course OF his ex-
animation, said that the cartridges pro-
duced by Mr.. O'Brien were not different
from the ordinary regulation cartridges.
Asked If they were dum-dum or explosive
bullets the witness replied in the mega
tive. "They are perfectly normal bullets"
he said. The regular Krag-Jorgensen bull
let, he said often has practically the same
effect as a dum-dum or explosive bullet.
This effect was not always dependent upon
distance. He related instances of lacera-
tion which had come under his own obser-
walton. He attributed the effect to :he
pushing out of the blood and tissue by the
bullet. He explained that "dum-dum'' bull
lets could be made by filing through the
steel covering of the lead OF an ordinary
cartridge. thus permitting the lead to be
exposed. This could be done. he said. in
five minutes. the effect of a wound by such
bullet being the same that produced
by a larger bullet. He also said that no
explosive bullets had been issued since the
St. Petersburg convention Of 1865.
QUESTIONED BY BEVERIDGE.
O'Brien was closely questioned by Sena-
tor Beverage. who required the witness to
go into very minute details respecting his
charge that number of American officers
had violated the person of a Spanish
woman at the time the town of Igabaras
was burned The witness said that in ad-
dition TO her husband there were several
servants residing in the house with this
woman He said also that she lived in a
house opposite the convent where the
troops were stationed: that he had first
heard OF the woman in the case because of
the talk of her exceptional beauty. but
that he could not remember whether the
husband when he told him of the crime
that had been committed had given the
name of any officers connected with it, The
man stated. however. that there were four
OF them engaged in the affair
Questions by the senator brought out the
fact that there were then just four officers
In the town of Igabaras. Consequently -
said the senator. If the statements made
by the wOmans husband are true these
four men are guilty of the crime charged -
The witness assented TO this inference
He related that some of the privates had
told him OF their relations with the woman
He did not remember the names of these
nrFe - H.
Yates being those whom he thought had
told him the story. This he did only after
great deal of discussion between himself
and Senator Beverage and among the diff
ferent members OF the committee. When
the names had been given Senator Patter-
son protested. saying that to compel the
witEess TO mention them under the circum-
stances and in view of his protest was a
grave injustice TO the men whose names
had thus been dragged in.
Senator Lodge ret ed that he believed
that instead of doing an injustice the com
mittee was on the road to doing Justice
This statement caused Senator Patterson
10 say. with evident appearance of warmth
that the attitude of Senator Lodge had been
that of menace toward the witness ever
since he had taken the stand
MY attitude, responded Senator Lodge
has not been any more that Of menacing
the witness than your attitude mas been
that OF defense OF him."
Mr. Patterson deny the imputation
Mr.. Lodge-And L deny that 1 have in
any way attempted TO menace the witness
DIETRICH AND PATTERSON.
Senator Dietrich charged Senator Pat
terson with having done all that he could
20 injure the army and with having done
nothing to protect and preserve its good
name.
Mr. Patterson resented this statement
sharply and angrily.
THE senator from Nebraska" he said
should be ashamed of himself He knows
that the truth is exactly contrary TO what
he has stated, and that what he has said
is absolutely and positively untrue"
Senator Dietrich-I know that what I
have said IS true. and 1 repeat that the
senator's effort has been to bring out
everything he could against the army.
Senator Patterson-The senator should be
ashamed to make such a statement. No
man Is more anxious than / am 10 present
whatever good may be said OF il. | have
not hesitated in my course in that respect
Replying. Senator Dietrich said he deied
the Colorado senator to prove the truth of
piled that the minority had made an hon
est and faithful effort TO get at the facts
and that he was convinced the present in
tention was 10 divert II from that course.
In this connection he declared that no gen
tleman would make such "A statement as
had been made.
Senator Dietrich closed this phase of the
controversy by saying that "A gentleman
engaged in such an inquiry this would
hN 10 OIiNk out lNlnSS IN the interest OF
the army rather than matters of a con-
trary character.
Senator Beverage asked the witness if
he had made any report concerning the
treatment Of the Spanish woman. The wit
ness replied that he had not made such a
report because" he said. Il knew that il
reported the affair ! would be logged
and that my life thereafter would be a
hell"
Why. then. did you volunteer a state
ment In regard 10 the natter"
CHARGES AGAINST OFFICERS.
II wanted the committee 10 know the
facts as they had come 10 me-" he re-
piled. and as l am now out OF the army
and a citizen OF the United States l felt
that l would be safe in reporting the mat
ter He went on 10 say that IL made no
difference how just the complaint of a man
In the army might be. the men who made
IL were sure 10 be bounded for doing so.
He added that his experience in the
mountains IN LuzOn had convinced him
OF this fact, saying In this connection that
ne and his men had been almost starved
while the officers OF his company were dis
posing OF the Tations which should have
been Issued 10 them. He said In reply to a
question from Senator Beverage in this
connection. that he had made several COM
plants while serving in the army
Returning 10 the question OF the treat
ment OF the gabaras woman. Senator
Beveridge asked the witness II he believed
that the officers did violate her person.
Several OF the minority senators objected