Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1902-10-24

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MAJOR Howard: Not where get u LETT
ter vain suule one . iial.ite sisneu TO II.
Wnen{ i get anonymous ScoillInuAlica ions /
tear rnetn UP anu throw tile1n IN the
waste pas,eL, ana do not tame any more
notice OF them tnan the passing mlnu.
Dr. haWtnorne: IN reference 10 houses
against Wnlcn complaints nave uten
lnaue have you ever lilaue any effort to
execute the law against those houses?
MAJOR Howard: l Instruct the omIgrs-
Or HawtnOIne: 10 arrest them and
BRING them before the ponce justice?
WAX THE; Ihn.AT is PUT.
Major Howard: i leave them to do
what it is best to do. II there is any
complaint and they do not move away
from there in a certain number OF days
we have not any right to say that they
shall move-but we say this: Mary Jane
or susan Jane or whatever you choose
to call her, there is complaint about you
ana your house. We have not got any
right to say that you shall move out of
here, because that will affect the real
estate agents and property owners, but
we have a right to tell you that we viii!
be around here in eight or ten days, and
if we find you here We will carry YOU to
court
DR.. Hawthorne: The law requires you
to suppress these houses. Isn't that the
language of the law?
Major Howard: That is the language
of the law.
DR.. Hawthorne: Haze you instructed
your police force to suppress them-that
means to remove them?
Major Howard: I have done this: I
have stated this to the Police Board:
Gentlemen, we could put these people in
the Police Court-every solitary one OF
them-in twenty-four hours If YOU do
that. what will become of them? What
are You going to do with then1?''
Dr. Hawthorne: Suppose you didn't ar
rest all q : once, but take few at a
time?
WEPT LIKE "A CHILD.
Major Howard: That is what we do.
One of the women, who lives on Broad
street. came to me the other day She
went to the Academy to see a play there.
! sent for her the next day to come down.
and told her that if she went to that
place again with a GENTS man would nut
her in Jail. And she stood right there in
front of my desk and cried like a child.
and said she didn't know rhat would he
come of her-wouldn't let her look out
OF the windows wouldn't let her open her
blinds. wouldn't let her stand at the door,
/ and now you will not even let us 30 up
L
New York" And then she said: 81 am
going: to move out of the city I said,
THAT is the best thing you can do She
will go 70 some other city and do the
same thing.
DR.. Hawthorne: That is nv point
that if you make it uncomfortable for
them to stay here. they will go.
Major Howard: That is what am do
ing.
Dr. Hawthorne: Have YOU instructed
your, police to detect and arrest and re-
port those cases for those are the words
of the iaw-detect and report)?
Major Howard: I think I have made
that very clear.
DIR. Hawthorne: Do you instruct Your
police to so to those houses that are not
| ccmrIn;ncd against by citizens and ar
rest the Keeper of these lewd houses and
; brig them to the Police Court?
| WARM QUESTION AND REPLY.
Afcjor Howard: ! will make another
| statement. When I was made a chief OF
| police, it got out somehow or other that
was going to make the women move
| Oft OF Broad street, and thought that
| was one Of the best places in the city
| for them, right on Bread street Tho
merchants on Broad street from Fourth
{ to Adams street came after ME and said
| For Gods sake, don't move those people
away from there; let them stay there
| they are protection to our property
| Dr. Hawthorne: Are you going 10 be
guided by such talk Of people or by the
law you have sworn to uphold?
Major Howard: I am doing the very
best that I can and the best that anybody
else can. # you We're in my place you
| would not do as we'll probably.
Or, Hawthorne: That may be so. am
the simple point l make is, that you have
not obeyed the requirements of the law
! The law says that you shall detect, re-
F., port. suppress and eject. You have no,
done it.
Major Howard: I am doing it to the
very best of my ability, and 1 think !
come as near to it as anybody possibly
could do.
DR.. Hawthorne: am not going to raise
any issue with YOU about that. I do not
question your motives at all.
Major Howard I understand Your mo-
tive
MUST USE DISCRETION
Dr. Hawthorne: But I say you are act
ing under a misconception of your right
to assume to exercise your discretion;
that the law leaves you no discretion.
Major Howard: Any police officer, !
do not care who he is. be he chief or the
hunblest private in the rank, that did
not use discretion in police matters is
not fit TO be {: policeman and ought to be
discharged.
DR. Hawthorne: I want to ask You
something about the gambling houses sc
that it will not be necessary for you tc
be called back. How long have you been
Chief of Police?
Major Howard: Well, about seven
years and a half.
DR.. Hawthorne: When You We're elect
ed, or when you were a candidate for
the Office, wasn't it generally unde1stoo
that if you were elected that You We're tc
enforce the laws against gambling hous-
es? Wasn't that the general understand.
ing?
Major Howard: do not know whether
that was or not. I don't know why ii
should be. never told anybody.
DR.. HAWTHORNE'S PULPIT STATE
MENTS.
Mr.. Jacobs: Before we pass from that
other matter. I would like to take up and
have settled the question about the state
ment in Dr. Hawthorne's sermon that
there We're four hundred and fifty houses
OF il! fame in Richmond. Don't less
leave one subject until we get through
with it. Prove that.
Dr. Hawthorne: I will prove that by
another man. The statement was not
made by DR. Goodwin in that public meet
ing, but it was made by somebody else
there. that there were four hundred and
fifty of them.
Mr.. Welsh Major, could you set the
r. AL l. H.