Evening journal., 1902-01-29
.DBBATR ON
THE TARIFF Blll.
Senator's SpOOner and Tl
man Indulge in Argument
Latter ApOIOgized and Said Ht Uag
Taunted Into lBger-AegrO eoa
iiOn Precipiiaied Discussion

tiNU i'VtPiiht'V NiNNuootNN
Washington, Jan. 29-One OF the
hercest debates Of the session occur
red in the senate yesterday afternoon
between Mr.. Spencer (Rep). Of N
consln, and Mr.. Tlllman (Dem
South Carolina. during the con sidera-
tion % the Philippine tariff bill Ihe
interchange OF words became SO hna
ed that the chair raped for ordcl
Mr. Tillman apolORized TO the chair
for not FIRST securing recognition be
fore he spoke, but explained tlal he
had been taunted into anger.
Prior to the outbreak on the Thln
pine question the senate conc.ndaa
the consideration Of the bill establish
ing a department OF commerce and
passed Il. The name OF the new 1,
partment was changed to that OF the
department OF commerce and labor
During Mr. Spooners speech on lht
Philippine bill Mr.. TilIman intouai
ed him to inquire: "Win the scn3,or
allow me TO ask him II the Fia
amendment had been defeated by de-
bate until the end Of the ses on
would that side have had courage ,o
have gone forward in It's philanthrops
humanity. Christianity and liberty ana
all that kind Of thing. and to have
called an extra session."
Mr.. Spooner-"We have coursa
enough on this side to do anything on
earth"
Mr.. Tillman-"Except to defend Do
negro"
Mr.. spooner--''We have not cou
enough 20 lynch colored men OF de
prive them of their rights"
Mr.. Tillman-"Does the senator le
sire 70 discuss the race question here
He seems TO have left the philirnl.
question to throw a personal flins e
me. am ready to meet him any
where on the race question"
Mr.. Spooner-"Whenever tho seuo
tor Is willing 60 meet me on fhat
question or any other. he will fnd ua
there so far as that is concerned. Thc
senator addressed to me an obsefVa-
ton rather offensive in its character
Mr.. Tillmon-'lt certainly had no
alluslon TO lynching."
Mr. Spooner-"No."
MT Tillman-"And the senator ur
derstands very well that come from
a section of country where lynchme
for given crime aRd for a good man
other crimes sre very prevalent Nov
does the senator wish to leave ths
Philippine proposition. in which '
dealing with a colored people n
most Infamous and damnable a1O
hypocrltical way and go south and
hold them up as examples that we are
dealing with ia a similar way; I moan
the colored people here at home. Are
we TO have two rules of conduct i'm re-
gard TO the colored people. one in
the Philippines. by which we butcher
and shoot Christianity into them and
another IN the south, where we are
not allowed to protect our wives end
children"
Mr.. SpoOner-"lf we had lhe
same rule for the colored people n
the Philippines as tho senator refers
TO in the south, God help the colorod
man in the Philippines"
Mr. Tillman-"God help hin in
the Philippines now you have already
butchered in three years three timos
as many as the spaniards did in three
centuries"
Mr.. spooner--"It Is one thine To
kin men with arms in their hands
against a government and against tho
flag Il Is another thing to burn them
Mr.. Tillman."
Mr.. Tillman-"You burned them in
Kansas. sir"
Mr.. Spooner-'Whereyer It is done.
It is an outrageous crime"
Mr.. Tillman-"Oh, it is a very easy
thing for a man who has not come n
contact with them in close quarters
TO arise and say what other peopo
ought TO do"
Mr.. Tillman was admonished by tho
president pro TEN. that he must not
interrupt a senator without first Oh.
tanning leave, to which he replied
that he was "taunted in a way that no
white man from South Carolina can
submit TO-"