The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1902-05-09
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had as well terminate now, for 1 must
say to you gentlemen, frankly and honest
ly, that nothing will be accepted from
the government at Richmond except alb
solute and unconditional surrender"
LINCOLN'S PARTING WORDS.
Mr.. Vest said that this terminated the
interview, and as the Confederate commits
sioners retired President Lincoln, address
ing Stephens, who was the last to go out,
said: stephens. you are making a great
mistake. Your government is a failure,
and when the crash comes. as it soon must
come. there will be chaos and disasters
which we annot now foresee which must
come 10 your people" This account of
that interview, continued MT. Vest. sub
stantiaIly and almost word for word, as
l have given it, came to me from Mr..
Stephens and Mr.. Hunter"
Mr.. Vest said that he considered IT his
duty to make this statement in order that
history may not be falsifed; in order tina
the men who were said to nave refused
this offer at the hands of President Lin
coin should not be made to sin in their
graves. adding: For if they had refused
what was said TO have been rendered to
them by the President they would have
been accessories to the murder of every
man who fell from that time in defense
of the Confederate cause, and they should
have given the lie to the intentions which
NllC4 plOANsoNh NAiNh NlCg llOhtu
thing, everything that is held dear
amongst men, in defense of the Confederate
cause"
While the deep silence still reigned in the
chamber as he spoke, and with every eye
directed toward him, Mr.. Vest concluded
as follows: 1T may be but a very short
time until L shall join the twenty-five col
leagues l had in the Confederate Senate,
and l did not want this statement to go
into the record of this country without
my statement of these facts and my solemn
| denial that there iS a shadow Of truth in
this assertion, which has been going the
rounds of the newspapers of the country
Tor the last few years"
Mr.. Carmack, replying to MI. Burton.
made a bitter denunciation of General
Funston. He said he did not question his
physical courage, but a few acts
did not make a hero. When Fun
ston had stated that Aguinaldo had burned
three hundred people alive at one time.
said Mr.. Carmack, he told a deliberate and
premeditated lie. In his opinion, he said.
Funston is not to be believed upon any
question whatever. The sudden waking up
OF the Republicans, he said, was for the
deliberate purpose of reviving sectional
hate in order TO divert this debate and the
attention of the people from the atrocities
which have been permitted in the Philip
pines. Il suppose it is obedience TO in
structions from the White House" he
said, that the effort is being made "a
reopen the wounds of the country that have
been healed
Facing the Republican side. and speaking
with evident emotion, MIR. Carmack said
Il shall be ready TO meet every slandereT
honor, whether the assailant comes from
some part of the country beyond the Dor
ders of the South or whether ii be some
recreant and degenerate son VINO has
proved a traitor 10 the womb and bosom OF
his mother" After stating that he would
not be diverted from the issue now before
the Senate by the falsehoods brought into
the debate, Mr.. Carmack said, referring &C
the charges Of lynchings, etc, in the South
land:
you cannot help us by denunciation. TIL
best thing you can do is to keep your
mouths shut and let US alone"
Mr.. Carmack declared that Mr.. Lodge
was dishonoring the American army and
the American Senate by defending order:
which looked to the murder of women anC
children Such orders of death-a bruta
and nhuman order-could not be justified
by anybody; yet these were the order.
which senator's had the "devilish impu.
dence" TO justify.
Does the senator think" inquired Mr.
Spooner. that the phrase. 'devilish impu
dence.' is proper under the rules of the Sen,
mo. I do not said Mr.. Carmack. "anc
I withdraw the expression" He maintained
that soldiers OF the American army were
driven on 10 commit the outrages cited bl
their officers. He quoted General Chafe'
as saying that the Americans had not
friend i'm the islands.
Mr.. Dolliver and Mr.. Beveridge i'm
mediately called attention to the fact tina
Whit dtIetdl 0ilultt actually HdQ Sdlu
was that extreme vigilance should be eX
ercised without giving offense TO the ma
tives.
Mr.. Foraker called attention. too. TO tn
fact that this order OF General Chafree ha,
been written two days after the massacr
at ~Balangiga. and evidently was intende,
TO make the troops more vigilant agains
surprise anG treachery.
Continuing. Mr.. Carmack declared tina
the evident purpose OF the government wa
to force brutal and inhuman warfare upol
q people, whether combatants or noncom
batants, together with the inhumanity o
General Smiths order.
f! Interrupting, Mr.. Foraker insisted tina