The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1902-01-07
MEMBERS OF SECOND CONGREGA-
TION sCHIsMATICS.
They And the Rev. Alexander Mackin-
tosh to BE Mere individuals After
The Ninth.

The members Of the second congrega-
tion of ST. Andrews Cathedral with
their clergy and all other members or
supposed members of the Anglican
church in Hawaii, who have not signed
the roll of registration as opened by
Bishop Willis, by the ninth inst, will be
no longer considered members of the
Anglican church when that body is for
mally passed into the hands Of the
American EpiscOpalian Bishops, but
will be merely individuals with no IL
cense to preach or privileges as com
municants, being in fact in the same
position as any persons who refuse to
go to church and sulk at home instead" }"
This is the standpoint taken by Bish-
op Willis this morning in an interview
secured at his home on the Iolani Col
lege grounds on Bates street. Bishop
Willis expressed himself as being very
much engrossed in work, owing to his
absence last week on Maui where he
had gone on matters connected with the
Chinese mission on that island. His
desk was covered with proof sheets Of
printed matter which he was busy cor
recting.
You saw the outcome of the meet
ing" said the bishop in response to a
query as to the present position of af-
fairs Il consider that equivalent to a
fiat refusal. The registration rolls are
open until the ninth, but do not anti
cipate that they will sign.
when l first gave the second cOngre-
cation the sanction to exist, it was be-
cause at that time the city was not
large enough for two parishes. Now
however look at it! There is ample
room and st. Clements should have
been the church of that second parish
had matters gone along in due form.
LAS far as the present attitude of the
second congregation and Mr.. Mackin-
tOsh is concerned, 1 am much disap-
pointed in being unable to hand over
the church undivided, as 1 had hoped
and planned. 1t is however largely a
personal matter and action against my
self The friends of Mr.. Macintosh
are desirOus of his being installed as
the head of all the church affairs down
here and are pushing the matter to
the issue of all or nothing" and the
slight quality of the bishops emphasis
| suggested that he had no doubt as to
the Outsome. Il feel that l have been
most liberal in my offers We have
always chosen January as the elective
months in these islands instead of wait
ing until Easter as they do in the
States. Had the second congregation
raised no issue they could have secured
the majority in lay matters without any
trouble. As regards Mr.. Macintosh l
] D.. I,E.
which, had they been accepted would
have resulted, in his now being the
dean of the cathedral These offers of
course depended on his giving up his
duties with the school as the proper
carrying out of the churchs demands
would not have been compatible with a
continuance of services rendered to the
state. The school was retained how
! ever.
Il have also made offers to him
whereby an honorable position in the
church would be secured to him the
duties Of which would not interfere
with his state affairs and emoluments.
| Had his friends desired to lorm a can
onry for Mr.. Macintosh l would not
have withheld my consent. But, as l
said before, they wish all or nothing,
and no man can serve the state in
| scholastic matters to the extent prac-
| tised by Mr.. Macintosh and at the
same time be at the head of the church.
am sure the American church viii
agree with me on that point and Ameri-
can members as well.
"As 1 pointed out to deputation
that waited upon me, some fresh argu-
ment might be opened if they could
show me a single precedent in the Ame-
rlcan church where a clergymen stood
in the position Of Mr.. Macintosh draw
ing a considerable part of his income
from the state and enjoying high Of
flee or any office in the church.
Mr., Macintosh is in the position of
! the many schoolmasters of public and
private schools in England and else
where who are the headmasters Of ,nese
establishments but are not endowed
! with clerical powers of preaching by
their bishop. Without clerical appoint
ment and without license, Mr. Mackin-
tosh will have no power to preach TO
his friends. I feel that have done "a.
in my power to simplify and straighten
matters but If they continue 70 sulk and
tatly refuse to come into the church
| why there is an end of the matters as
far as the Episcopalian church is con-
cerned. The clergy win be chosen and
all appointments made this month and
for several months the members who
have placed themselves outside the pale
will have no power TO vote upon or in
fiuence church affairs
81 have nothing definite tO saw ahoit
/ remaining or returning" concluded the
| bishop, there is nothing for me to stay
! for although 1 am much attached to
the place by long association. NY
! chief desire is concerning this college
! property, as to whether the church
wishes to purchase the same from me. "
ROTHS NEW STORE.
S. Roth, tailor has secured larger and
better quarters and is now located in