New-York tribune., 1902-03-11
LORD GREY AT CITY CLUB
HE EXPLAINS WORKINGS OF PLAN To
REDUCE DRUNKENNESS IN
ENGLAND.

Leaders IN reform and students OF sociology
listened 10 Lord Grey's explanations of the work
of the Central Public House Trust Association OF
Great Britain yesterday at the City Club r.
Fulton Cutting. who presided, in introducing
him said:
While we have been considering measures thu
association of which speaker is the head
has been acting practically and with profitable
results The saloon as an evil is in progress OF
evolution We cannot expect in these DAYS To
eliminate the habit Of drinking TO prevent
drunkenness. Instead. we must devise substi-
tute, and later perhaps. devise substitute for
the substitute. We must try to take the saloon
out of politics. not root il out OF the social ne
Of the workingman. The latter would be desir-
corrupting influence Of the saloon in political
affairs must be first cOunteracted.
'T should not like 10 be regarded as an OUT
slider" said Lord Grey, interfering with the
affairs Of this country any part Of it. for
which feel the greatest affection in return for
the constant and Unremitting kindness which
have received here upon every one OF nv four
visits. In fact. I take almost as much interest
in this country If I an American"
He continued in part follows:
The public house is essential necessity for ,ss
his days work is ended. The question is not how
70 Tnnpova fSe Pcon5ition Of fb % bb3Se bb3f0Se IT, so "a
the place a blessing, curse. Our orohlaro ts
consumption for there is 52 per cent per csSts
consumption in England over that Of the United
TO the amount Of the United States percentage we
would have saved SS0,0C00o0 OF the wages of labor
1t appeared and still appears, impossible TO get
legislation, because of the liquor interest influence
& ~ Oe t o,,y assis+spce ns35 W if o5 S minority 20
Bishop Of Chester TO obtain power over a given
issued by the license boards and in that area open
houses Of refreshment. where not only LIQUOR would
sold, but food and nOn-alcohOlic drinks
The association started two years ago, and We
control twenty-five houses. Upon the initial capital
> laid
aside another per cent for redemption fund and
house that would divert the patrons from the bar.
room The managers OF these houses receive
salary and commission on the sale Of
our organization in the present year shows
strong trust company in every county; which is the
unity of advancement. We go into the open mar
with private fndividuaIs except where The insi
vidua intends 10 sell it out TO brewery. In this
event We see 10 IL that the license is issued TO US
who win spend the surplus in beaUtfying the
II Is impossible by administering temperance to
put down drunkenness As an Illustration, l would
instance Newcastle-On-Tyne- There is but one pub
lie house there. The license board refused all appi-
cations, and with very good reason because bid
paying. nothing for the privilege. The publican q
the only house placed goo glasses OF gn on the bar
took the glasses every morning before going 10
work This formed their breakfast as We 60 10
work earlier in England than you do in this coun-
try. being accustomed to do couple Of hours work
placed 400 cups Of coffee or broth on the bar so
that the miner could have something TO work upon
breakfast at $50 o'clock in the morning Our
b6aT9 Of or m Tdng buP5 Pas mas 70 70 se5 eo1 @
house. This included the building Of the house.
purchase Of all supplies and the like
In Newcastle had five OF the busiest young busi-
ness men Of the town. who devoted their evenings
two or three times a week TO the management OF
the public house. In organizing a thing Of this
kind 1 should advise getting five young business
Is difficult to secure them in city like New-Yo
but believe 1t quite possible; We alw2yS lai9 9
aside nrst per cent interest on the capllal ana
per cent toward redemption fund. and the whole
good
our nre directors were gwen tTee hand IN sperqs
this money. The profit OF the bar. no matter how
would lead 10 treating with the excuse that they
drinking down the price OF subsequent drinks
b no @ II 5g+iif a S bd an s6,1aI chance
with their goods We had pictures and dye stamped
he third glass We tried to make il look like
Club-even like the City Club
We enforced early closing hours ard no sales 20
equal chance and working against their goods by
the forced sale OF nOn-intoNicants considerably re-
duced the vast revenues OF the brewer and checked
mis- growing power. There are l59o99 Pg9lic houses
in England. and 5000 IN the United states Each
one OF these is weapon in the hands or the pohti
clan.
Bishop Potter spoke briefly and advanced the
idea that wealthy men should take up the plan
as outlined by Lord Grey. and organize it on a
gigantic scale.
William f. Dodge offered a resolution that a
| meeting be held to consider the expediency OF
eliminating private profit from the retail sale Of
alcoholic liquor. This was amended by the Rev
Or. Thomas r SliCer to place the thing in the
hands of a city club for consideration OF the
adoption of the plan Of the Central Public HOUSE
| Trust Association.
would be impossible in veiw Of the existing
Raines law 10 conduct such houses, although tbs
| people Of the city of New-YOrk might be II
| favor of il.
FALLS UNCONSCIOUS At DINNER.