The Savannah morning news. (Savannah, Ga.) 1900-current, 1902-10-01
NOT BY DIPLOMACY
but GOVERNMENT Is TRYING TO
GET GREENE AND GAYNOR.
MARION ERWIN IS HERE.
TELLS OF THE STATUS OF THE
FAMOUS CONSPIRACY CASES.

State Department Concerned only
With the Position of Some of the
Quebec Judiciary. and the AttOr-
ney Generals once Is Working to
Secure the ExtraditIOns-Mr. Err
win Working TO secure Evidence
in the Cases Tying Up Money Al
legged TO Have Been EmbexzIed by
Capt. O. VI. Carter, $4,000 of
Which L. Held Up in savannah.
United States District Attorney Mar
ion Erwin is in the city with Mrs.
Erwin. stopping at the De Soto. The
partly Of business. Mr.. Erwin said
to a reporter that he was attending
to some matters pertaining to the fam
Gus Greene-Gaynor cases, or rather
TO some things resulting from the hold
ing up of the money alleged to have
been embezzled by Carter. There is
about 900 of this in Savannah, and
considerable testimony is to be taken
to show that the money really is that
purloined by the ex-engineer officer.
hearing on the cases will be held
by Judge Kohlsaat in Chicago in about
of work ahead TO be ready by that
date He is not gathering testimony
in Savannah this trip, but only at
tending to some things that have
grown out of the various cases. He
will leave for Chicago from here. stop
ping en- route at several cities, where
the work calls him.
Speaking of the effort TO get the Gay
nOrs back to the United States, Mr..
Erwin said il was a popular error to
suppose that the negotiations were be-
ing carried on only through diplomatic
channels. The status of affairs is that
when Mr.. Erwin made his report to
the attorney general. stating therein
that several of the crown officials were
interested through their firms with the
defense, and that consequently it was
difficult for the United States counsel
10 secure an unbiased hearing, his re-
port was handed to the State Depart
ment and by Secretary Hay was refer
red to the British authorities. Only in
that way has diplomacy anything to
do with the cases.
The only way TO get the men back,
Mr.. Erwin said, is through the courts,
as there are treaties between the two
countries, covering extraditables, and
the courts are the deciding tribunals.
While little is being said, and while
he could not say on account of his po
sition what is being done, it may be
taken for granted that the attorney
generals department was not idle and
was steadily at work in its efforts to
get Greene and GaynOr.
In speaking of public sentiment Mr..
Erwin said it was a mistake to think
that the Canadian people were in
favor of making the country a refuge
for boodlers. Outside of Quebec, SEN
timent was strongly in favor of the
American governments claim. Even
in Quebec the public generally was
against the fugitives, and the trouble
came only from a small circle. If the
noted refugees Should ever come out
OF that province into any other part
of the Dominion, it would be compar-
atively easy to have them turned over
to this country. AS it is, it is hoped
to get them where they are, but If
final failure should result, then they
will have to spend the remainder Of
their lives in Quebec.
Mr.. Erwin said that he had been
criticised for having reflected upon the
judiciary of Quebec, when such was
not his intention at all. Nothing IN
his report or in newspaper interviews
afterward was so meant, and ne old
not want any such construction put
upon his remarks.