Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1902-04-23
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A Passage of Words,

A Passage Of Words.
Mr.. Tillman then arose and undertook to
quote in general way the statement made
by Senator Hoar. Mr.. Hoar replied that
he had said nothing Of the kind, and Mr..
Tillman In his characteristic manner sug-
gested that the senator from Massachu-
sets was violating a rule which he had
himself just put in force in the Senate.
He said that he had contradicted him fiat
ly. which he thought was unbecoming a
senator. A passage of words between Mr..
Hoar and Mr.. Tillman then took place.
partly humorous, but tinged with a good
deal of irritation.
Mr.. Tillman said that the senator from
Massachusetts, was guilty Of the same vio-
lation OF the rule for which he had called
another senator to account, which Mr.. Hoar
resented, saying that there could be no
comparison with his language and the Ian
guage referred to by Mr.. Tillman. Finally
MIR. Hoar declined to be further interrupted
and concluded his remarks by saying
whether provision was inserted in the bill
stating the manner in which railroads
wouldscroceed to come into the District and
TO use the union station, or whether such
a right were reserved to be conferred by
congress in the future, was simply matter
as to which was the best system. In either
case Congress would have the right to al
low other railroads to use the union sta
ton.
Mr.. Tfllman on obtaining the floor re-
verified to his controversy with Mr.. Hoar,
saying that the latter was rather emphatic
and more or less insulting in fatty contra
dieting him. He then charged that Mr..
Hoar was frequently guilty of violating
the rules.
II have noticed" said Mr. Tillman, that
the senator habitually, 1 may say, breaks
certain rules of this body, although he does
not do 1t in an undignified way. He does
not show discourtesy to the Senate. but
at the same time he should make allow
ances for the foibles and shortcomings of
us youngsters. That Is all l have to say"
MIR. Tillman then crossed swords with Mr.
senator. Mr.. Forake rdenied that he had made
the statement attributed to him by Mr..
T1llman. Finally Mr.. Tillman said that he
understood or thought he understood, some
Dody on that side to make the statement
and, without settling the matter proceeded
to make his further objection to the bill.
He thought that 1t should be worded In
such a way that other railroads might use
the union station.
Mr.. Hansbrough's Objections.
Senator Hansbrough, a member OF the
committee on the District of Columbia
said that he had objections to the bill diff
fering from any of those that had been
stated
When this bill was reported from the
District Of Columbia committee" said
Senator Hansbrough "a statement was
tee was unanimously in favor of it.
tEink can ask the chairman Of the COM
m1ttee to confirm the statement that there
was at least one member of the committee
Who was not in favor Of the bill, and that
member was myself. I argued against this
bill for reasons entirely apart and alto
gether different from those that had been
stated by the senator from Colorado yes
terday.
Il am for the amendment Of the senator
from Colorado, for the reasons that he
stated. If the Pennsylvania railroad was
a young struggling enterprise and needed
the assistance of the government Of the
United States l would willingly give my
vote to this measure for a subsidy toward
the enterprise which Is proposed in this
bill. but 1t is well-known fact that the
Pennsylvania Railroad Company is one Of
the richest corporations in this country
1t is we'll known that it recently absorbed
the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Company
and that the purpose of this union depot is
simply to fix the railroad facilities in this
city for their convenience.
MY idea of subsidy would be to SUBJ
sidize struggling enterprises that are a
benefit to the country at large But this
Pennsylvania Railroad Company Is far
better able to construct this depot and TO
build its approaches than Is the government
of the United States able to give five mil
lions Of dollars for that purpose. because
the securities of this company in proper
ton are worth more than the securities of
the government of the United States 1t is
not pauper institution which requires aid
from the government. In my country
never knew railroad company to ask the
state to build depot for them. In st.
Paul and Minneapolis the railroad COM
panles built their own depots."
The Effect of the Bill.
Mr.. Gallinger said that he knew the SEN
ator did not want to misrepresent the
facts, which were that there was nothing
In the bill by which the government was to
construct the depot of the company.
Mr.. Hansbrough replied that 1t did not
matter in what form the appropriation was
made. but that that was the effect of it.
Mr.. Mcmillan said that the figures pre-
scented by the committee in connection with
this report were given by the Commission
ers of the District of Columbia. and there
was no doubt that they were correct While
this bill was drawn and presented to the
railroad for Its suggestion, it was also SUBJ
mitted to the District Commissioners and
then gone over carefully by the committee
after consultation with the engineers
Mr.. Hansbrough said that he would not
vote for the bill. He said it was simply
fixing a monopoly in the railroad business
In this city. He would vote for the Patter-
son amendment, but even If that were
adopted he thought he would vote against
the bill. Mr.. Hansbrough proceeded to
state conditions under which similar i'm
provements are made in the west, especially
his own state and said that they did not
give the railroads sucn aid as was provided
in this bill.
Station Paid for by Railroads.
Senator Mcmillan said the Pennsylvania
railroad did not ask one cent to build the
depot. The proposed depot to cost five mil
lions Of dollars would be paid for entirely
by the railroad company.
MT Hansbrough said it made no differ
ence whether the money went into struc-
lures to eliminate the grade crossings or
into the depot, that in the long run 1t
amounted to the same thing.
Mr.. Gallinger said that a year and a half
ago Mr.. Hansbrough had voted for every
dollar of the so-called subsidy contained
IN this bill. Since then he thought he must
have seen some new light which he could
not understand. He said the only addi-
tional expense in this bill was for complet-
ing the plaza in front of the station, which
was matter concerning the District and
not the railroad company
Mr.. Patterson then again referred to the
Commissioners report, which he said he
had read from The Evening Star. He went
over these figures published in The Stars
reprint of the Commissioners report.
Mr.. Gallinger and Mr.. Hansbrough had
some further dispute to the appropria-
ton made. to assist In the railroad improve
ment. Mr.. Gallinger saying that 1t made no
difference whether that was in money or
in land, as Mr.. Hansbrough had suggested
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