The evening times., 1902-05-31
Sharp ColIoquieS Mark the
Philippine Discussion.
Mr.. SPO0NER RESUMES
Clashes With Mr.. Hear on a Question Of
Fact and Is Made the Subject Of 4
Pointed Thrust by MI. Carmack.
Mr.. BeveTidge's Request Fails.


closing Of the general debate upon the
Philippines civil government bill. !
dozen Senators were IN their seats when
the gaveI Of Acting President Pro TEN.
Platt (Conn.) fell at II O'Clock The
public gallery was early filed. and the
reserve seats we're rapidly occu2ied.
Mr. SDooner of Wisconsin took the
floor at the conclusion of the routine
business to complete his speech begun
on Thursday. He yielded, however. to
a request from Mr. Beveridge. who sub
mitted a huge bundle OF typewritten
manuscript, which he asked to have
printed in the Record.
A Heated COlloquy.
The Indiana Senator stated that it
consisted of extracts taken from the
testimony given by the governors Of the
Philippine provinces, Governor Taft and
others. before the Senate Committee on
Philippines. touching upon the action
OF the army. the ability Of the FiIfpfnos
for self-government, and concentration
camps.
Mr. Hoa- moved that tta papers De
referred to the Committee On Philip
pines.
Mr.. Beveridge warmly protested, but
ended by withdrawing his motion, after
a somewhat heated couoquy, in which
ne. Mr. Hoar, and Mr. Allison partfcf-
Pated. Mr. Spooner resumed the Hooy
at 11:90 o'clock
Opposed Permanent Retention.
In the eoIIoquy which had Just taken
place the word sides" had been used in
connection with the bill. but there ought
not, he said, TO be sides on it The in
terests of the country demanded that
men in public life and in private life
should bring TO the solution OF 1t a sole
desire to get at the truth without party
bias or party interest.
He admitted that he had never been
in favor OF permanent dominion in the
Philippines. bus@he dfd not mean by that
that he had ever been IN favor of run
ming away, Ike q coward. from re-
sPonsibility which the Government lad
assumed He had not been in favor OF
surrendeTing 70 tyranny, TO anarchy. TO
chaos, people who had come under
American protection. He had never
been able to contemplate with eauauiu-
ity the proposition that the Philippine
Islands should ever be admitted to the
Union as q State or States.
Hoar and SPOouer Clash.
Mr. Hoar asked Mr.. Spooner whethsr
there was not a people" in the Philip
pine Archipelago. when there were nil
lions Of men acting together, who had
raised an army, selected a general,
turned Spain out Of their territory ex-
cept the single city of Manila, invested
the Spanish troops there from water
to water. who had agreed upon a consti-
tuition republican in form and who had
order. peace. quietness. local municipal
governments-was not that, he repeated,
a people
They would be a people if that were
true" said Mr.. S2coner.
IT IS true" Mr. Hoar prt in
4 deny it. Mr.. Spoore exclaimed
81 deny that there is any except super
fetal truth in it
He referred to testimony to show that
there was in the archipelago eighty
four different tribes and three different
races, with diversity Of language and
great differences Of civilization. The
bubble as to there being a living and
cohesive people. IN the sense of a na-
ton, in the Philippine archipelago, had
arisen, so far as he knew, from state
ments of General Macarthur and the two
naval officers who had wandered on an
auspicious occasion through the islands.
Views on Filipino Army.
Referring to the Filipino army, Mr.
Spooner spoke of it as an army Of ban
dts and rufians.
Mr. Hoar reminded him that the Span
ish prisoners of war had been turned
over to it by General Otis, and M Car
mack alluded TO Admiral Dewey's con-
Gection with it
"It was an army" Mr.. SpooEer ex-
claimed. which demanded the right 10
enter Manila for loot. violence. srd
rapiae."
Carmack's Gibe at Spooner.
IN a short conoquy between Mr..
Spoouer and Nr. Carmack. the latter
made a humorous remark rs TO the
Senator from Wisconsin being the only
prophet in the chamber.
He always knows, said the Tonnes
seean, what any other Senator Is eCInz
to say, but ne rarely k1oWs what he
himself has said after ne has said it,
CLaughter-I
Diary About AguinaIdo.
Mr.. spooner went on to read from .
diary of AguinaIdo's perigrinatioas kept
by one Of his officers. 1t began thus:
''On moonlight night the honorable
president
What PRESIDENT q Senator asked.
"AguinaIdo?" Mr.. Spooner replied.
President of what? He had a govern
ment of Droclamations confscations,
and assassinations, aad the evidence all
shows t.
He went on 10 quote: Once the iu5e-
pendence of the country is declared we
will take a trip 10 Europe. with cn al
lowance of q $1,000. 600 20 pay our ez-
penses-"
Another entry is: Received > pesos
from :. 3. 10 save his uncle from being
Hanged ILaughterJ