Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1902-11-18
N VEAGH vs.. AIGAELL
Attorney and Labor Leader Con-
tinue Passage at Arms on
Labor Questions.
MITCHELL KEEPS HIS TEMPER
Miners Representative Has Been on
Stand Four Days and Unless Matters
are Expedited the Hearing Promises
to Last for Months Interesting
Colleagues at Today's Session.

Scranton, Pa. Nov. 1S.-Another
large crowd was in attendance today
when the arbitration commission be-
gan it's fourth days sitting. Mitchell,
who has been on the stand since last
Friday, too his place in the witness
box, and his cross examination by
Wayne Macveagh, for the Erie cam
pany, was resumed. 1t was the gen.
eraI opinion of the attorneys today
that some arrangement will have to be
made to shorten the inquiry. AT the
rate of progress now being made il will
take many weeks to hear both sides of
the controversy. If counsel takes no
action it is likely that the commission
will suggest that something be done.
The commissioners recognize that
Mitchell is the most important witness
the miners have and they are loath to
have matters hurried while he is on
the stand. His opinions are looked
upon as official also as rejecting the
policy of the organization. Before pro-
ceeding to the examination John T..
Lenahan, attorney for the non-union
men, who want the commission to take
up, the case, handed to the the commits
sion a list of 1000 names of non union
men as his authority for appearing be-
fore the an'bitrators. He did not wish
the commission to make the names
public at this time, and they were not
given out for publication. He also
filed a statement of the non-union de-
mands which were published this
morning.
MacVeagh. in resuming cross-exam-
nation, said he would be glad to get
an expression as to the influence of acts
of violence upon the temper and dispo-
sition of the union men said to have
committed them. Mitchell said he
would not assume that the acts of vio-
lence are true. The question" Nc
veogh said. "is whether or not you have
taken proper methods to preNeni rte1-
etition of violent acts when they have
occurred, no matter by whom they were
committed. What / am trying to show
is that there Is a growing spirit of yio-
lence and disregard of law in your or
ganiza ton that your influence over
them is insufficient to keep them as
law abiding and peaceable as you de-
sire them to be-"
Under this arraignment of the union,
Mitchell retained his complete COM
posure The question met with ready
response.
.tThe fear that my influence" said he,
lis not sufficient to deter the men from
the commission of crime is a conrtadic-
ton of the claims often made about
me-" He was fire to say that some men
may have been deferred from going to
work because of violence. but the strike
itself lost more in public opinion by
reason of that than ie could possibly
gain.
Cross and witness then
plunged into spirited colloquy over
the question of whether one man has a
right to prevent another man from SELL
ing his labor The best answer Nc
Veagh could draw from the miners
chief was that he did not approve of
any one committing an unlawful act.
MacVeagh read statement regard
ing the right to strike as belonging to
personal freedom of workingmen. He
also took the view that In exercising
that freedom, those who cease work
must not interfere with the liberty OF
others who wish to work.
1--WE do not want anarchy" said
Mitchell, "and that is anarchy pure and
simple, the right of every man to do
absolutely as he pleases, regardless or
its effects upon society"
"This is the language of very care
fully disguised anarchy" MacVeagh
remarked, because it is the language OF
Archbishop Ireland"
Archbishop Ireland never expected II
to be used in that sense. l might say
the archbishop is a member OF a COM
mittee of which I am also a member,
which has declared for the trade union
idea"
Answering further the question
Mitchell declared if Ireland's statement
meant that men have no right to picker,
he disagreed with him, and added that
he did not know the archbishop was
| regarded as a supreme court on trade
union matters.
The attorney and witnesses 1nduigeo
IN an argument over the propriety Oh
snv one criticising the acts and decls-
Macveagh thought it wrong to fol-
low such a course and that 1t tends TO
breed anarchy. Mitchell said he was
nleased to say the courts, as a rule, are
| fair hut he regretted that in the course
of his experience he had found some
| iudges who he said had made great
MANY serious reflections on the men
who gave UP their lives TO the cause OF
Ilabor. He added there We're anarchists
in trade unions? Replying to Mac
yeagh's questions regarding union men
belonging to the National Guard, Nit
cha,l said no local in this union ha(
! ever expelled man from the union
| for belonging to the guard and that nc
national labor union OF any kind had
ever done such thing A little unior
in New York state, he said, had taken
such action and it had been heralded
over the country. He was not respon-
sible for what some other organizations
did MacVeagh concluded his cross
examination at this point.
/ Francis r. Cowan, representing the
Lehigh Valley Coal Company, followed
1Iaeyeagh in questioning Mitchell, but
nothing new was brought out. For the
first time during the session the MEM