The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1902-05-09
CARMACK CUTS BACK HOT
He and Dolliver Shake Hands After
the Encounter.
THE CONFERENCE AT HAMP TON ROADS
Senator Vest Gives the Details of That Historic
Meeting, Removing Stain Flung
Upon the Escuicheon Of the
Confederacy,
CBy the Associated Press.)

(By the Associated PreSS.)
Washington, d. c., May S-Dscus-
sion of the Philippine bill in the Senate
TO-DAY while it scarcely abated in pit
terness, took on an amusing phase. In
a breezy speech Mr.. Dolliver, of Iowa,
a sarcastic arraignment of Mr.. Carr.ack,
of Tennessee, that Senators and occu-
pants of the thronged galleries We're
convulsed with laughter. While, SEEM
ingly, considerable temper was aroused
by the debate, good feeling was shown
by the active participants in the war of
werds-Mr. Dolliver and Mr.. Carmack-
who cordially shook hands and laughed
over the encounter.
Mr. Burton, of Kansas, concluded the
speech which he began yesterday. He
referred as instances of atrocious cruel
ty to the battle of Wounded Knee to the
Mountain Meadow Massacre and to the
massacre of Union soldiers at Fort Pill
low and contended that the action of the
American troops in the Philippines was
in most instances, entirely within the
regulations of civilized warfare.
Continuing Mr.. Burton referred to
''the remarkable speech" delivered in the
Senate yesterday by Mr.. Tillman, (S.
CO He paid tribute to the work be-
ing done by oRoker Washington for the
colored race and suggested that if the
colored people would follow his advice
they would be successful.
Mr.. Vest, MOI, called attention to
the statement of Mr.. Tillman made yes
terday which he said he was compelled
to take notice of in justice both to the
living and the dead. That statement,
which has been found in the public
press and upon the lecture platform for
the last three years, was that at the
historic conference in Hampton Roads
in 1864 between resident Lincoln, Will
liam H. Seward, Alexander II. Stephens,
r. NJ. T. Hunter, Formerly United
States Senator. and John A Campbell
formerly Justice of the United States
. Supreme Court, President Lincoln wrote
upon n piece of paper: Save the UT-
ion,'' the handing it to Stephens, said
ALEX, take this paper and fiji up for
yourselves the conditions of peace be-
tween the two countries
Mr.. Vest said the story had been de-
MED by John H. Reagan of Texas, who
was the last surviving member of The
Confederate Cabinet.
He knew personally. said Mr.. Vest,
without having been present at that
celebrated interview, that the incident
was without the slightest foundation
government and officers OF the Confed-
crate States in the category of crimi-
nails, because it offered the Confeder-
acy al that it ever demanded in the wild
est hope of the most extreme partisans
of that cause IL they would only return
tc the union
deep silence had fallen upon the
chamber and every Senator on the floor
listened to him with rapt attention. With
great delberateness he continued:
IF true it would mean that the Con-
foderates could have placed in that
sheet of paper the perpetual establish
ment of slavery and the right of seces-
sion, the most extreme demand that had
ever taken shape even in the dream of
any Confederate"
the iipS VI DtePHSnS anu E1uH-
ter had come to him, he said, the details
Of what took place Upon the return of
the commissioners of the Confaderacy
he heard their ofcial report as Mr.. Rea-
gan heard it, he being a member of the
Cabinet and himself a member of the
Confederate Senate. 81 am today the
only surviving member of the twenty
six gentlemen who acted as Confederate
Senator'S he said.
Mr. Vest then stated that what did
happen at Hampton Roads beyond ques-
tion was this: That when the President
and Secretary Seward met the commits
sioner of the oCnfederacy, Mr.. Lincoln,
addressing himself to Mr.. Hunter, whom
he knew well, said: ''In the first place.
gentlemen, / desire to know what your
powers and instructions from the Rich
Inond government avoiding, said Mr..
Vest, as Mr. Hunter told himself. the
words Confederate States.''
Mr.. Hunter, to when the inquiry was
addressed. sail:
''Mr. President, we are instructed to
consider no proposition that does not in
volve the independence of the Confederate
States of America" !"
Then said Mr.. Lincoln, 'the inter-
view had as well terminate now, for |
must say to you gentlemen, frankly and