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opened the first of these Joints?" ask
ed Mr., Smith.

opened the first of these Joints?" ask
ed Mr.. Smith
Gardner and Norbeck."
What games did you play there ?''
Stud poker and three card monte.
We used cold deck when we needed
it. Edwards handled the inside and
trimmed the suckers. had the out
side to look after l attended to the
kicks. Charlie Howard acted ais
steerer part of the time, but when we
first opened he played the still hand.'
This is the hand that wins the money
the so-called big mitt.'' The wit
ness then explained the operations of
testimony given in the Gardner and
Norbeck cases.
Norbeck Was on Guard.
Did Detective Norbeck come
around to the joints?" asked Mr..
Smith. t't'%
He was there nearly every day."
What was his business at the
JOINTS
HE was to look after the people
who kicked. He came in and talked
with US every day. When we clipped
the suckers he would take them out
and talk to them. He was in our en-
ploy."
When you opened the first joint,
do you remember seeing a list of
names of the men working there?"
Yes, sir. had Howard make out
list. list. It was given to the chief"
oezO we e, we went into the mayors private
the list out of his pocket and read the
names. He asked me if they were right
l made no change. Then he asked where
our joint was and told him.
DID you give him anything then?''
asked Mr.. Smith.
Yes I gave him an envelope contain
ing $l5. had talked with Gardner and
Norbeck about paying him money!
What did he do with the money!"
he he put put It tin, in his Is pocket ),
Did you have, a SITS New York draft
Yes, sir. Billy Edwards gave it to
me. 1t was handed to my brother, who
tried to cash it in st. Paul.
), Did you ever receive any money from
that draft?'
Yes; $372.''
Did you ever pay the defendant any
part of that money?' sG
Gave Ames $25.
Il gave him SIS. 1t was in his Office
at the city hall, either the 18th or 18th of
January. He asked how we had fixed the
promised for $S72. That our attorney,
Mr. LOOMS, had been paid $72 and the
money had to be cut up SO many different
ways could only give him $25 instead of
the $50 he was to have had if we had got
the full amount of the draft. He said it
was all right, but that we had better stop
papers were making so much talk
defendant after that?'
Yes. Detective Carroll picked me up
one night because i hadn't been a good
fellow with him. Iqtold the chief about it
and. said 1 had paid him SIS rather than
to have paid Carroll anything, but ought
to have let him know about it,
This was stricken out and the direct
examination was closed.
Mr.. Welch moved that the testimony
regarding the first payment of SIS related
Dy the witness be stricken out as imma-
terial to the issue invorved in the case,
and tending to show another crime than
that alleged. The matter was argued on
both sides, the court finally denying the
motion.
crossman Stands Pat.
Crossman was placed under a severe
cross examination, but the defense was
not able. to shake his direct testimony in
the least particular. In fact, it might be
out on cross examination which was dam
aging to the defense that did not come out
on direct. After about TWO hours and
half OF cross questions the defense
closed.
Christopher Norbeck appeared in court
for the first time since his capture at
not look like the Norbeck who was in
court about two weeks ago defending him
self on the charge of bribery. He seemed
to be, in an extremely happy mood, and
bowed and smiled to many of his ac-
quaintances in the room. He sat beside
the states attorney, and the remarks
made OF MS fine appearance were many.
Some who had known the detective for
years asserted that they never saw him
looking better.
He will probably be placed on the stand
today to tell the story Of crime that has
been running rampant and the part which
he took in it under instructions from the
chief of police.