The evening Republican., 1902-05-09
FROM CRAVE TO GAY
Bitter Philippine Discussion
Takes an Amusing Turn.
DOLlIyER AND CARNACK HAVE A TILT
Senator Vest Makes an Important
Contribution to American His
tOry-StatehOod Debate In
the House.

the House.
WASHINGTON. May 9.-Discussion
of the Philippine bill in the senate,
while it scarcely abatcd in bitterness,
TOOK an amusing phase. In a breezy
speech Mr. D0lliver Ia) made such u
good natured and yet such a sarcastic
arraignment of Mr.. Carmack CTenn.)
that senators and occupants of the
throAged galleries were convulsed with
laughter. While seemingly considera-
BILE temper was aroused by the debate,
good feeling was shown by the active
participants in the war of words, Mr..
Dolliver and Mr.. Carmack. who cordial
ly shook hands and laughed over the
encounter.
Mr.. Burton QKan) concluded the
speech which he began Wednesday.
He referred rs instances of atrociOus
cruelty to the battle of Wounded Knee,
10 the Mountain Meadow massacre
md to the massacre of Union soldiers
at Fort Pillow and contended that the
notion Of the American troops in the
Philippines was in most instances en-
tirrly within the regulations Of CIV
llizcd warfare.
In response to some statements made
Wednesday by Mr. Tillman, Mr.. Vest
(Mo.) delivered a fOrceful and effective
speech and made a historical contrbu-
ton with reference to the Hampton
Roads conference between President
Lincoln and Confederate leaders,
Mr.. Vest said, II am today the only
surviving member of the twcnty-siX
gentlemen who acted as Confederate
senator's"
Mr.. Vest then stated that what did
happen at Hampton Roads beyond
question was this: That when the
president and Secretary Seward met
the commissioners of the Confederacy
Mr. Lincoln. addressing himself to Mr..
Hunter, whom he knew wd Il, said:
"'n the first place, gentlemen, de-
sire to know what are your powers
nnd instructions from the Richmond
government" avoiding. said Mr.. Vest,
as Mr.. Hunter told him himself, the
words Confederate States.'
Mr.. Hunter. to whom the inquiry
was addressed, said, MIR. President,
we are instructed to consider no propo-
eition that does not involve the indc-
pendence of the Confederate States of
America
"'rhen," said Mr.. Lincoln, "the inter-
view had as well terminate now, for
must say to you, gentlemen. frankly,
md honestly, that nothing will be ac-
repted from the government at Rich
mond except absolute and uncondition-
al surrender
Mr. Vest said that this terminated
the interview, and as the Confederate
commissioners retired President Lin.
coin, addressing Mr.. Stephens, who
was the last to go out, said:
stephens, you are making a great
mistake. Your government is fail
ure. and when the crash comes, as it
Eoon must come, there will be chaos
and disasters which we cannot now
foresee WHICH must come to your peo-
pie
This account of that interview"
continued Mr. Vest. substantially and
almost word for word as have given
It, came to NE from MIR. Stephens and
Mr.. Hunter
Mr. Vest said that he considered it
his duty to make this statement in or
der that history may not be falsited;
in order that the men who were said
to have refused this offer at the hands
uf President Lincoln should not be
made to sin in their graves, adding:
For if they had refused what was
said TO have been rendered to them by
the president they would have heen ac-
ccSSOries to the murder of every man
who fell from that time in defense Of
the Confederate cause, and they should
have given the lie to the intentions
which they professed when they risk
rd everything, everything that is held
dear among men, in defense Of the
Confederate cause
While the deep silence still rcigned
IN the chamber us he spoke and with
every eye directed toward him, Mr..
Vest concluded as follows: at may be
but Il short time until shall join the
twenty-five colleagues had in the
Confederate senate, and I'Aid not want
this statement to go into the record Of
this country without my statement of
these facts and my solemn denial that
there is a shadow OF truth in this as
sertlon which has been going the
rounds Of the newspapers of the coun-
try for the last few years"
The bill to place three new stars in
the American flag had the right of way
again in the house. General debate,
the feature Of which was an extended
speech by Mr.. Grosvenor (Ol in oppo-
sitiOn to the measure, was closed at 3
o'clock. and the bill was then read for
amendment under the five minute rule.
An amendment offered by Mr.. McRac
to consolidate the territories of Oklaho-
ma and Indian Territory was defeated
by IL vote of 81 to l03. An amendment
offered by Mr.. Ovcrstreet Und) to con-
solidate Arizona and New Mexico and
admit them as the state of MOntezuma
was pending when the house adjourn
ed.