The evening times. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1895-1902, 1902-05-23
ativeS Do Not Know Their
Own Mind, Says the
Witness.
MORAL SUASl0N'S USE
IN CHURCH AND STATE
Should Be Preferred TO Force, But Sup
port of Duly Constituted Government
the Prime Essential-Americaa Rule
Over Indians Ci.ed IN Testimony.

Bishop James NJ Thoburn, Of the
Methodist Episcopal Church. today con
tinued his testimony begun yesterday
before the Senate Committee on the
Philippines. IN the course Of the hear
ng Mr.. MeComas read an extract from
he diary of Aguinaldo. recently publish
d. il which he said that he feared that
after the Filipinos had 7Ton their inde-
pendence civil war would result Bishop
Thoburn agreed with this prediction and
said that anarchy and chaos would have
followed Aguinaldo's success.
The Filipinos Changeable.
Being questioned by Senator CaTmack
as TO his statement that the FiliDinos
would be satisfied to be held and gov
erned as a dependency Of the United
States. something like {. British crown
colony, the bishop said that he did not
think that Incorporation OF the Filipinos
in the American Union was in their
IDEAS at all, nor did he believe the
American people had such plan IN
their mind. If the leading FilipinOs,
who are friendly to the United States.
should unite in q petition to Congress
declaring that they would never be sat
ished with = colonial form Of govern
ment, II weuld not change his opinion
that the majority Of the people OF the
island would gladly accept such q plan
Of government
As 70 the success Of American mis-
sionary efforts as compared with the
other nations in the Orient, he attrib-
uted it largely to the greater popularity
Of the Americans. IN China this had in
creased since the war, because the
American soldiers had conducted them
solves better than any other except the
japanese.
Use of Moral Suasion.
Replying to Mr.. rson, the witness
said that while in Irch work moral
suasion should be i in preference to
force. yet it was v,u understood from
the Bible that Ch. .ztians must uphold
the civil government and the constituted
authorities IN this country We have
held the Indians by force, and there vas
q stuu stronger reason 70 hold the Fill
pinos. because of the serious results
that would follow our failure 10 DO 50.
Asked as to whether he believed in
the principle OF government by consent
cf the governed, the witness said that
+ that was with reference 10 the Fill
pinos he did not believe it was a safe
policy TO attempt to Learn what the
xhole people wanted until conditions
lad been established and it was pOssi-
Die TO obtain their views by a vote At
present the Filipinos were very Uncer-
ain as 10 what they did want in the na-
:ure Of relations with the United States
or the form Of government to be estab-
Hshed in the islands.
MaIays and Other Races.
An chronological discussion followed.
Senator Dubois endeavoring 20 establish
relation between the Malays and the
japanese for the purpose OF showing the
ability OF the former for self govern
ment and rapid adaptation 10 civiIiza-
ton.
The witness said that one Of the
strong distinctions between the TWO was
that the Japanese were Of one race and
language and possessed that cohesion in
public affairs which was the essential
basis Of a self-governiLg people. while
the MaIays had diverse languages and
lacked the ability to stand together as
a race, each toRn or tribe acting on
its own impulses.
This concluded Bishop Thoburn's ex-
animation. and the committee had 9
short executive session. for the purpose
OF allowing Mr.. Carmack to request that
certain members Of the House be called
as Witnesses before the committee. By
party vote Of 70 >. the committee de-