Evening journal., 1902-01-29

/ may have seen him then, but dOn
remember Of seeing him. l did not
20 to see him but / may have seen
him.
Did you see him on that occasion?
l don't know whether I did or not.
/ did not see him for the purpose OF
talking to him.
What was the next time after the
Hotel Walton visit you had an inter
view with Levy?
II was last spring.
Where did that conversation take
place?
Along the B. C o. railroad near the
station.
How far from the B. & o. station?
Il was down near Fourteenth street.
Who else was present at that time?
Captain Black was there.
That was in the spring of 1901. Is
that correct?
Yes. sir.
Was it before or after the May term
of court?
| don't know whether it was before
or after. 1t was after the raid of
March 30.
State exactly how you came 10 see
Levy on that occasion.
1t happened on one evening. Either
Monday, Wednesday, or Saturday
evening. / was in the Municipal Court
when 1 received a telephone message
to come out to Fourteenth and the b.
& o. railroad when we got through
with court. l went out in the evening
after court at night and met Captain
Black and Levy near Fourteenth and
the B. e. O. railroad
What conversation took place there
in your hearing?
The conversation was on the order
of wanting to know if Levy could get
in here with policy.
You We're chief at the time?
Yes. sir.
Did Captain Black say anything at
that time?
Well, I suppose he did. don't re-
member what he said.
Don't you remembre what he said at
that interview at the B. & o. railroad
station while Levy was there? Was
there anything that Levy said TO Black
or that Black said to Levy that led you
to infer that Black was willing to af-
ford protection or that he had afforded
protection in any way to Levy?
No. l don't think there was any such
conversation.
Why was Captain Black there?
7 could not tell you.
What was the first thing was said
when YOU first met them?
Well. ] could not say what was the
first thing before the conversation.
What did Black say to you over the
phone when he asked you to come out
there?
He said when you get through court
come out to Fourteenth and B. G o.,
] want to see you. will explain.
Captain Black used to telephone me
after he would go off duty. Sometimes
perhaps he would forget to make some
report. and he would call me up and
inform me-he had done it quite often.
| thought nothing of those messages
only to go see what he would want.
Did Captain Black mention Levy's
name over the phone?
Yes. sir.
Did he say he wanted you to meet
anybody?
No. sir.
How did he explain Levy's presence
in the city that evening?
| don't know.
Did he state what his object was?
OH yes.
State plainly what his object was?
His object was to see if he could get
in here to work policy in this city.
Under protection?
Yes. sir.
Did Levy offer you anything for pro-
lection?
think not
Did he expect protection for nothing?
Well ! informed him that he could
not get protection from me-
Chief Massey said In reply no iur-
ther questions that the conversation
did not last long, and he went away,
leaving Levy and Black together at
Fourteenth and Dupont streets. He
did not report the matter to the Police
Commission because he had told Levy
that he could not get in and he had no
reason to suspect Black of getting any
money from Levy. The chief said he
remembered getting two or three let
ters from Levy The first letter mere
ly asked him to meet Levy in Phila-
delphia. but he did not answer 1t. The
second letter asked If there was any
chance for Levy to start policy in Will
MluElOu anu the Cultl odlh hC oShb az
answer which was a refusal to Levy
Chief Massey did not remember
whether he received the third letter OF
not Nobody was present when he
opened the letter and there was nc
money in either of them. Chief Mas
sew did not know whether Black ol
Commissioner Pyle had received money
for protection TO gamblers. The chiei
also said that shortly after he had beer
appointed he had been approached b.
John Newell for the privilege Of run
ming q slot machine and he refused
him. The chief did not report the mat
ter to the Police Commission at thi
time, because he refused the permission
and thought no more about 1t. Newell
did not offer him anything for tn
privilege lie told Newell that h
would not allow him (NewelD or any
body else to run slot machines. Il
reference to the gamblers Offering hin
s2.500 for the privilege of startin
cold fhnW nf