Evening star., 1902-03-14
THE EVENING STAR, FRIDAY MARCH H. 1eo2-1e PAGES
SENATORIAL OOLLOQUY
Mr.. HANNA RESENTS STATE
MENTS BY MIR. BERRY.
Discussion During the Debate on the
Shipping Bill-Mr. Perkins Sup
ports the Measure.

At the conclusion Of Senator Berry's
speech in the Senate yesterday afternoon
he was replied to by Senator Hanna, and
brief colloquy occurred. participated in by
Messrs Hanna, Berry, Spooner and Clay.
Mr.. Berry had denounced as unjust and
unfair" the proposition ito levy a tribute
upon the taxpayers for the enrichment Of
private individuals and corporations.
''To say" declared Mr.. Hanna, with some
warmth, that the senators on this side of
the chamber who are favoring this measure
are thereby fostering power to build up
monopoly or to favor any syndicate is un
fair. II a newspaper report Is to be taken
as proof to sustain the statements that
have been made it is hardly worthy of con-
sideratian. Not one ton of these foreign
built vessels. II purchased by Americans,
could be admitted to American register or
receive any benefit under this bill, and ne
one knows that better than the senator
from Arkansas" -
Mr. Hanna went on to say that Mr.. Berry
had urged that the enormous power and
influence Of Mr.. Morgan and his associates
would be brought to bear upon Congress to
secure the admission of their foreign built
ships to American register. That was gra-
tuitous. IF 1t were true, this bill would Of
fer little inducement to those owners. as by
having their vessels brought under Ameri-
can register they could participate in the
very profitable coastwise trade of the Unit
ed States. In conclusion Mr.. Hanna said:
''The senator's on this side of the chamber
are actuated by just as high motives as the
senator from Arkansas and they are just
as patriotic
Mr.. Perkins for the Bill.
Mr.. Perkins (Cal), a member Of the COM
merce committee. delivered an extended
speech in support of the pending measure.
He believed it was the duty of the country
to try the experiment proposed. II it proved
to be failure it could be repealed by Con-
gress. but he was satisfied that in it's opera
tion it would be great success. Every
American citizen. he maintained, was in
terested either directly or Indirectly in the
bill. He was satisfied it would be as far
reaching in its good results as any piece of
legislation that had been before Congress
for many years.
AS shipping man Mr. Perkins pointed
out that the proposed subsidy-or differen-
tiaI as he preferred to call it-Would not
begin to pay one-half of the operating ex
penses of the ship" Therefore, he main
tained, the criticism Of the measure because
it did not contain the provision OF the bill
Of last year that a vessel must carry al
least 80 per cent of her cargo capacity In
order to participate in the subsidy was not
we'll founded. Without cargo ship. even
with the subsidy cOud not be operated ex-
cept at a loss. and Yankees are not In the
habit Of doing business in that way.
Incentive to New Lines.
1nlS Dill, he urSeu, "oulu uo TIC ii'soi
tive for the establishment and operation OF
new steamship lines which would add vast
ly to the commercial influence and prosperi-
ty of the United States.
In conclusion Mr.. Perkins said he beiiev-
ed the pending bill was wise and patriotic,
and that in it's operation 1t would result IN
widespread benefit and prosperity.
At the conclusion of Mr.. Perkins speech,
Mr. Penrose faSorably reported the Chinese
exclusion bill and it was placed on the
calendar.
Then at $40 p. m. the Senate, on motion
of Mr.. Allison. went into executive session,
and at 20 adjourned.