The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1902-11-19
RECOGNITION OF UNION
THE PRINCIPAL THING
indications That the Matter Will Be Fought to the
Limit Before the Commission.
President Mches Fourth Day the StandExaminaOn Shows
Dragging Tendency

( of violent acts when they have oc-
/ CURED He did not care, he said by
4 whom these were committed. What
1 am trying to show he continued. is
/ that there is "A growing spirit of vio-
{ lence and disregard OF law in their or
/ ganiZation and that your influence over
! them is insufficient to keep them law
/ abiding and peaceable as you desire
/ them to be-"
Response Was Ready.
] Under this arraignment of the union.
( Mr.. Mitchell retained his complete COM
{ posure- The question met with a ready
/ response.
I he, is not sufficient TO deter men
! from the commission of crime is con-
+ tradictiOn of the claims often made
about me- He was free TO say that
! some men may have been deferred from
/ going to work because of violence. but
/ the strike itself lost more in public
( opinion by reason of that than it could
I possibly gain
/ The cross-examiner and the witness
/ then plunged into a spirited cOllOquy
over the question of whether one man
/ has a right to prevent another man
( from selling his labor
/ The best answer Mr. AIacNeagh could
/ draw from the miners chief was that
4 he did not approve Of any. one commit
! ting an unlawful act
/ MI MACY Gd8n fe1Q a statement re-
! garding the right TO strike as belong
) ing to the personal freedom of working
men. He also took the view that in
! the exercising of that freedom those
/ who cease to work must not interfere
with the liberty of others who wish to
work
I'VE do not want anarchy" said Mr..
! Mitchell, and that is anarchy pure and
1 simple-the right of every man to do
4 absolutely as he pleaseS regardless Of
J its effects on society"
Archbishop Ireland's Idea
This is the language of very care
/ fully disguised anarchy. Mr. Mac
! Veagh remarked, because IL is the Ian
4 guage of Archbishop Ireland
I Arch bishop Ireland. never expected
1 il to be used in thar sense I might
say Archbishop Ireland is a member
! of a committee of which I an also
{ member which has declared Tor trade
union idea
Answering a further question. Mr..
| Mitchell declared that If Archbishop
IreIand's statement meant that men
have no right to picket, he disagreed
z with him. Mr.. Mitchell added that he
did not know that the archbishop was
regarded as a supreme court on trade
union matters.
The attorney and the witness wan
/ dered from the rules of crOss-eXamina-
ton and INDUCED in an argument over
the prOpriety of any one crIticising acts
and decisions of courts. Mr.. MacKeagh
thought it WAS wrong to follow such i
course, and that it tends ID breed an
/ archy. Mr.. Mitchell said he was
pleased to say the courts, aS rule, are
fair, but he regretted that in The course
| of his experience he had found some
judges against labor. He referred to
Judge jackson of West Virginia, who
he said, had made a great many serious
! lives in the cause of labor He added
that there were no anarchists IN me
trades unions. Mr.. Mitchell said 40
local in his union had ever expelled 4
man from the union for belonging to
the national guard, and that 10 ma
tiOnal labor union of any kind had
ever done such a thing. = little union
in New York state. he said, ha0 taken
such action. and IL had taan Eeralded
over the country He was not respOn-
sible for what some other organization
did.
MacVeagh Concluded.
Mr.. MacVeagh concluded his cross
examination at this point.
As soon as Mr.. MacNeagh had fin
ished. Judge Gray announced that the
commission did not wish to limit the
liberty of any one appearing in this
case as representing others. but they
believed they had obtained IS much in
the subjects touched upon.
! Judge Gray announced, however, that
if there was any new line of eXamiaa-
ton the commission would not object
to hearing the testimony
Former Congressman WOlverton, rep
resenting the Philadelphia & Reading
Coal & Iron company, informed the
commission that future examinations
would be very brief
Francis r. GOwen, representing the
Lehigh Valley Coal company. followed
Mr.. MacVeagh and questioned Mr.
Mitchell regarding his comparison of
wages paid in the bituminous fields as
against those paid in the Anthracite
fields. The question OF weighing coal
was also taken up
For the first time during the session
the members of the commission then
entered into a general oss-e1amina-
ton of the witnesses on points which
the previous testimony had not brought
out.
Replying to Bishop Spalding, Mr.
Mitchell said that operators could form
a coalition and stop the mining of coal
throughout the United States. They
could do the same as we could" said
he, and especially now, when the coal
| fields of the country are passing into
the hands of a few men,
Naked Question of Right.
, Commissioner Watkins thought the
law would prevent the operators doing
that by reason of their incorporation.
, but Mr. Mitchell said they had the right
to shut down their mines.
Judge Gray asked the witness if his
society did not depend, after all, on
the old economic truth that all great
forces which tend to uDlift and carry
: on social advancement and civilization
depend upon the average desire of the
individual to better his own condition
and to work for wages, and upon the
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