The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1902-12-16
HEARD In THE
MERGER CASE
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"since you have been there. there. has
been no cutting OF these rates so far as
you know" ~ 49, I - = : l.&
mo- 49, J. e5f.>z...
do you know OF any changes that have
been made in rate to these points?''s
There may have been, but I do not
recall any now - -. J. =. VA
Have there not been occasions to con-
fer with the Canadian Pacific and Union
Pacific as to rates to- the Pacific coast,
where they can compete?"
"Who has represented the Great North
ern and Northern Pacific on these occa-
slons?' 80 .--..
II have at times 49,,
"Have you acted with authority for
them?" '..>. = : -...'- ~,
ITO certain extent, but subject to the
approval Of their traffic officials"
Whom would you consult?"
''M-. Hannaford and Mr.. Blabon."
"NeN Mr.. Hill?"
mo, ~
No talk OF Merger Manager,
Eat the. time you went to the Burling-
ton, there was considerable talk, was there
not, o. a traffic manager for the Great
Northern, Northern Pacific and Burling
ton?" ...
"Was there not In fact?"
mo, sir"
Did you never have any talk with Mr..
Hill on that point?"
mo, SIR
"Was there not an order issued to the
effect that a Burlington car reaching the
Great Northern or Northern Pacific lines
to be taken by them, it should thereafter
be deemed a. Great Northern or Northern
Pacific carp 49,, .
Il never heard of such an ORDER j.:
''Was not one made, and then re-
| voked?" '.'e@' =. =. .'ss~ - E.
MOT that ever heard Of" ..-...,r g
| when you were with the Great North
ernr 4 la you not consult Mr.. Hill with re-
gard to a change in rates?'
"An important change. Yes. One that
changed the entire basis of rates."
would you make rates on wheat?''
Eyes" :"On -four and lumber?' mo,
| SIR"
Whom do you consult on the Burling-
TOM" "Mr. Harris
| mo one else?" NO" =,
Did you never consult with Mr.. Hill
since going on the Burlington, on those
subjects? "No." 49,
Have you had any conferences with
him?" eyes," 49,.
What did you talk about?"
| "Glittering generalities.'
|
'"Our earnings and expenses
| ,"What did he say about them?"
| "Oh, he said our expenses were toe
heavy, and we ought to do better
| THAT meant that you must?"
pretty nearly that '-: ~.
'How did he come to talk with you
about that?" ..
HE is interested in the road. -
HAS he written to you, or to Mr.
Harris that you know of. about the af-
fairs Of your road?'
eyes, saw such a letter.
~ when was it written?''
"In July. I did not see it till Mr.. Har-
ris showed it to me Yesterday, -.
| Did you have no talk with him before
that time on that subject?' '
mot on that letter, but on some others
written before and since"
What did Mr.. Hill say to you about
operating expenses -z..' - :. @sre ~
He compared them with the Grea1
Northern, and said they We're too high
that we ought to get after it." =. s.
50 &c. The Division Of Freight. -
Returning to the division of freigh
between the Great Northern and North
ern Pacific continued Mr.. Mum, "wha
was your basis?" ~. r. r.
1--WE divide it evenly If we received
equal amounts from the two roads,
with reference to. any particula
point?'' mo, SIR - as..
without regard to the length of tn
haul?" q.sz7z.a1 .s
Eyes, just with reference to tn
amount turned over to u.s., -
Then what you receive at Billings from
. the Northern Pacific and haul to Chi
cago counts for just as much as wha
you receive at st. Paul.
Eyes, that equalizes in the long ruin.
eat what point in the west does tn
HysNo ,@nsIr 49, ~.
Nowhere
Then Pacific coast business from an
to Nebraska all goes from your line to til
, Northern Pacific, and vice versa" Eyes.
"At other points you receive abor
equally from the two roads?" Eyes"
Over what road do you do the bulk
your business to the Pacific coast ~
'West of the Mississippi by Billings an
from Chicago, by Minnesota Transfer
IF the shipper requested, would 70
take it from Chicago to Billings?"
mo, by the Minnesota Transfer
'IIave you any instructions from til
Northern Pacific and Great Northern a
to the division?'' NO, sir"
"They own the Burlington, do the
not ~
IT have received no instructions fro1
! Them
Mr.. Mum asked Mr.. Miller whether i
had received any copy of the circular lei
ter introduced the other day, withdrawn
short line rates over the long haul route
between junction points. He replied /
had not.
The Defense Asks Questions
Judge Young then took the witness an
by a line Of questions developed that tt
5 system used for dividing business is til
i same as that in general use and is apple
s toward other lines. He also brought OF
that joint rates to competing points WEI
always the same.
Referring to reductions spoken Of til
. west coast points, Mr.. Miller said this wa
not by rate cutting, but by reduction /
/ the published tariff.
Mr.. Mum resumed with redirect es
amina ton. and asked whether there ha
J: not been changes in 1902S in the classified
q ton. so as to raise the rate on certai
articles.