Evening journal., 1902-10-03
BALDWIN TALKS
! ON ARCTIC TRIP
Explorer Explains Trouble
Between Himself and
Captain Johannsen
DENIES He WAS SHORT OF FOOD
Mr.. Baldwin Says Johannsen Wanted
to be the Whole Thing, and Objected
to Ice Pilot Directing Ships in Ice
Fields

New York, Oct 3.-Evelyn B. Bald
win, the Arctic explorer arrived yes
, terday on the steamship Germania, Of
the White Star line. Mr.. Baldwin at
first refused to talk about the alleged
q controversies which had taken place
between him and Captain Johannsen,
OF the America, but after hearing that
It had been reported that the expedi-
ton had been short of food and sup
plies. he made the following state
. ment:
"There is not a word of truth in
the report of our not having sufficient
supplies. It is easy to explain the
trouble between myself and Captain
Z Johannsen. He wanted to be the whole
thing. That's all. The trouble first
started between the captain, or to
give him his proper title, sailing mas
ter, and the fee pilot, whose name is
Arnsen. The fee pilot took up his
place In the crows nest, on the ship,
q when we were in the Ice fields, and
should have had. and eventually did
have, complete charge OF the direct
ing of the ship. The sailing master
4 objected to the ice pilots holding alb
solute sway over the movements of
; the ship at any time, and that is how
Z the row began. !, of course, took the
side of the pilot, and saw that he was
kept in command while we we're in
the ice. The pilot had 29 years
experience in the ice fields, while the
sailing master had practically none.
I "The expedition went away with
AZ persons on board, and we brought
back the same number. Why, we
ought to be congratulated instead of,
as you say In America. jumped on.
have learned one good lesson, though
never take Swede and a Norwe-
gian along with you If you want to
avoid trouble The ice pilot was a
Norwegian and the sailing master a
Swede. There's tae whole thing IN a
4 nutshell"
In response to Mr.. Baldwin's re
quest for information regarding any
charge made against him. he was
shown a published interview with J
Knowles Hare, an artist on the ex.
pedition. who recently arrived here
The Interview stated that there had
been a disgraceful row between the
captain Of the America and Baldwin
and also that there had been an in.
sufficient food supply. Mr.. Baldwin
was also informed that T. S. Vine
yard. of Durango Colo. the first
member of the expedition to arrive in
America had said that he would never
go north again with Mr.. Baldwin.
Il don't believe it." said the ex
plorer. "Why, neither of these mer
have any cause to say anything
against me. Every one was treated
fairly, and no one can say truthfully
that he was not If go again mex
year, no matter who I take with me
whether they be zulus, Hottentots oi
white men. there are sure to be some
kickers In the crowd. The members
of this expedition were mostly younl
men, and very few of them had eve
undertaken such a trip before. Thii
might explain some of the things saiO
about me, but am being done a grea
injustice.
'I still believe that when the poll
is reached it will be found surrounde,
by ice. The fate Of Andre? Why,
think he went down into the sea-"
The explorer said he had come di
rectly from Tromsoe, Norway. at tn,
direction of Mr. ziegler, who dis
patched the expedition.