The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1902-11-28
NOBODY'S BEEN TO SEE DOULL
he TELLS WHY he OPPOSES
p. X. r. TUNNEL FRANCHISE.
Studied II Out Himseif-Daiton's Against
L. Too-Can't Say That Any One Has
Been Seen-Why should One He and
Not Others: doesn't Seem Reason able

Been Seen-Why should One he and
Not Others: doesn't Seem Reasonable
Alderman Reginald S. Doull. who voices
the plant of the Aldermen hat have no, been
seen in the matter Of the PENNSYLVANIA
tunnel franchise. was asked yesterday TO ex-
plain some remarks made in his speech be-
fore the Aldermanic Committee Wednesday.
In tina, speech Alderman Doull said:
Insinuations have been made that some
of the members OF this board who are OPP
posed to this franchise are waiting TO be
seen II that Il 80, how much have those
who are high IN authority IN this admins
tration received TO favor this franchise?
II We. who are not IN favor OF the franchise
have not been seen then those who are ~
favor OF il must hav" been seen and seen
well
That was just piece of logic" said
Alderman Doull. after he had made a speech
about the American flag. Il don't know of
anybody having been seen. Nobody has
been TO soc me, not soul No lawyer or
other representative Of the Pennsylvania
Railroad has been TO my house or has had
any private talk with me. | met First
Vice President Green Of the Pennsylvania
at q conference which was attended by
Mayor Low and President Cantor and
with him or with any one else sut horned
TO act for the road in getting this franchise
through. | don't know who the lobbyist
j.. but suppose the road has one.
Have you heard Of any money being
u,ei o put the franchise through the Board
Of Aldermen"
L haven't And vet this is a franchise
" INCH will make 500 900 900 for the railroad
To sl,OOO,0Co for the city | haven't been
able to see any good argument for that.
The PENNSYLVANIA wants tn. labor people
to take the roads word for every thing.
They say that s3oO00W,O will be- spent for
labor on this work Well. why can't there
h" something more substantial than the
railroads. word:"
Alderman Doull unused for a while and
then returned to a consideration Of in
situations about waiting 20 be seen. There
was a hurt tone in his voice which might
have touched President Ca~satt of the Penn
sylVania had h. heard it, For the iuforma-
ton of MI Cassatt and others Alderman
Doilrs address j. at AIS West Thirty-ffth
street
i can't say that any one who j. FOR the
Il an"hiee has been seen said Alderman
Doull. Il wouldn't say il II any one
went to see the Aldermen in behalf OF the
Pennsylvania why shouldn't he see all
of,them? Why should some be seen and
others not he seen? That doesn't seem
reasonable As | said before. no one has
been to me. No one has been 10 see
me from the other railroads that are sup
posed to be- Interested in defeating the
franchise. This il my first term a. an
alderman, YOU know. H. fact, no one
he been to sea me about any large measure
came before the board"
ANY one been to SEQ You on political
grounds" was asked of the Alderman.
"No. You see there nothing in
that story that Mr. Murphy had ordered
The Tsmmanv Alderman to vote for the
franchise, That was printed. YOU know.
after he had gone out to Mount Clemens
Of course, ] was interested ] went 10
~ee several men who are high up in Tam
many Hall. They said rs not true.
ouf Tor yourself Mr. Murphy's position.
I'm sure. il that each Alderman has made
special and personal study Of this cues
ton and is able TO decide for himself how
TO vote. studied il out for myself. No
one came to see me to explain it | got
copy Of the franchise and read it over
Now, when people who live in my district
come 10 ask me why | am opposing the
tunnel ! lust give them copy Of the fran
chse and ask them TO read It. Then they
60 away. That puts different view on
the question. can read the meaning of
I VI
no one has been 10 confer with me about it,
II then occurred to the Alderman that
the Rapid Transit Commission was favored
In the franchise and he said
Look Al the nice thing the Rapid Transit
Commission il to have under that franchise.
The city authorities cant get after the
tunnel in any shape; cant have a word 20
saw about how il shall be constructed It's
all left TO the Rapid Transit Board. That's
self-perpetIatng board that does as il
damn pleases. It's been jockeying with
land sales in the fixing Of stations. II
decides on stat ion At one place then buys
land in another place. Don't YOU sup
pnse some one is getting par Of that graft
tome one who's on the board? The Mayor
criticised the board. Comptroller Grout
saws he knows is so. WHY shouldn't ~
Alderman Doull waE asked il il was not
true that certain 1ammany leaders who
could not arrange for fat contracts for the
tunnel work had argued with him TO oppose
the tunpel He replied:
An the talk had with Mr. Dalton. my
district leader, was that had told him
had stood ont against the franchise from
tho start. He's with me. He said: II
you've studied out this quest ion Redge
and YOU think You're right, stick The
other Tammanv leaders I've talked with
only told me that Mr.. Murphy hadn't
asked Us to support the franchise
Alderman Doul used to be- private score
tary 70 William Dalton who was Tammany's
water commissioner. Dalton is the leader
Of the Fifteenth Assembly district. When
Doull lost his place in the Water Depart
mont Dalton nominated him for Alderman.
7 was IL the building business" said Alder
man Doull in making his own biography.
and before that in the fire insurance.
Alderman Donll il short dark with curly
hair and oiled mustache. He il fond Of
making speeches and occupies more time
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