The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1902-11-07

explained that the Great North hiaa ssarcss
Y. absolutely owned any railroad msleege.
put that 1t operated somewhere from i've
leases and that 1t also owned the large
portion Of the stock Of the old Manitoba
road and some other corporations.
ton q ERE Rates ,ss'sd reaat Ike
ern since the purchase Of the Burlin4.
Sn # to the
conference between the officers and hin-
the Great was not q thne
a number Of years. He said the reduc-
%ss 3 = s5 ! e.
wh paees m seanH IL PaaSsf p s aaa
M Northern Paeific., 81. was not abso-
ehnsss in sSe tfae rates ~ rsest
had Of a1sed
the matter: He did not think that the
rates rate had dol been REDUCED on lumber zig
Burlington, because those rates were
abnormally lower before and much lower
eargngs sy hf
$3.50 and the average Of the railroads q
that the Northern Pacific was higher.
probably in the neighborhood Of 300. On
that Af Se paes % VA ss MI M se
Northern Pacific. and thought that II
Atshisen it would increase their earnings
Referring to the purchase Of 2 large
not own this land at the time the pres
emf suit was begun. He made this ex-
PLANTATION on the coal question
Witness: l do not want to be misunder-
have been. The Great Northern Railway
company and the Northern Pacific Rail-
way company have an interest In this
inasmuch as our Winters are cold. It
would be difficult for them to live here
without fuel. and 1t is very serious mat
railways: we don't know now that we
would be able to run our trains to the
first day Of February. with the. lack Of
from Illinois. and we don't know but we
would have to give up portion of our
supply Of steam coal to keep people from
by any means to the anthracite strike
and I tried to make it plain yesterday
that it was not; but it is due to the in
Erie and the mines in West Virginia.
pennsylvania and Ohio to move the COAL
They are unable to move the coal up to
get supply. At this time we have not
been able to get one-half of our purchase
Ior the Fly; year, and navigation will close
portance of the control for US Of access
to the coal mines of Illinois, which are
the, nearest coal mines to this country.
and the Importance OF that will be appa-
rent more and more as time goes on.
Mr.. Hill further testified that when the
Union Pacific desired to get control of
to him while they were negotiating and
wanted to take half interest. but, the
Of the Northern Paec bv the pan s
cifc. he said would have left the Great
Northern in helpless condition because
inc u, Great Mo al3 was jointly and sey-
lions: that being. the purchase price of the
burlington stock. and if the Northern
1h.,i owned Joint interest in the deal:
OF that amount, but If the Northern Pa
cilc was in the hands of a rival trans
continental cont line with It's interest in San
Platte Valley'to San Francisco they could
influence the Burlington to- help their
POSITION to the buding up De or IN ad
that the Great Northern had had worked or leGe so
long and hard to establish.
The gist of Mr.. Hills testimony during
the two days he was on the stand was
that the organization of the Northern Sc
str1cticn to trade. That the Great North
ern and Northern Pacific and Burlington
were onerated separately and independ-
emily. That there was no actual merger,
but that their working together was Of
vital interest to the Northwest. That
rates had been reduced as the result Of
this, co-operation.. and could and would
be still further reduced as tariff increases,
That the whole proposition was within the
law in every respect. That the purchase
of the stock Of the Northern Securities
the money to pay for it and could agree
with the owners as to the price. That
Nthere was no combination or agreement.
expressed or implied, but that the cor.
poration was simply a holding company;
really for the purpose of making the
property it holds have greater stability
and not likely to be purchased by parties.
to use. to destroy other property; in fact,
that the whole movement would prove,
most advantageous to the Northwest. Cost
Of the railroad and equipment having.
been incurred, the great increase of tom
mage and business growing out of the
Burlington purchase and protecting it.
against adverse interests would increase
earnings. make lower rates possible and
thus induce settlement of the country.
and thu building mp of commercial manu-.
featuring and agricultural interests