The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1902-06-02
Challenged by a
Utah Mormon
Elder.
A CLASH AFTER
THE DISCOURSE
Interesting Meeting Of Rsorssnized
- Church Of Latter Day Saint,
at Arion Hall.

III
EanIzsd Church OF Jesus Christ
IN Of I.atter-Day Saints. the original
rhureh founded By the prophet Joseph
saith. and Of the Church Of Jesus
christ OF Latter-Day Saints Of Utah
a. Organized under the direction OF
brigham Young. met In wordy eontro-
v.rsy last night after the church meet
lag Of the Reorganised Church In
Ayson Hail. and the discussion was al
most IN interesting as the address
which Alexander Smith. son of the
r,rophet. delivered from the pulpit Tne
distinguished ehurchman, who repre-
sented M patriarch the reorsanized
church. with headquarters at Lamont
Iowa. made an address upon the history
Of the movement begun by Joseph
smith. and outlined many OF the differ
-nees between the reorganized church
s.S that In Utah In the audience
vsre Elder waddups. who represents
tss Utah church In Honolulu, and MIS-
Mary Young. widow OF Joseph Young.
tse eldest son Of Brigham Young
When the son Of the prophet was leaV-
sng the meeting house he was pleas
! <fsy greeted oy all his auditors. among
Se~r, b~fnr Mrs. Young and Elder
vgaddups. The greetings Of the latter
were cordial and many "reminiscences
v.re exchanged. But one reniniscence
La 20 another and soon the rival
church leaders were Involved In dis-
s.r-.iou OF the relative merits OF their
respective organizations Elder Wad-
,iopa endeavored 70 convince the pairi-
arch that Brigham Young's organiza-
zion was the real one. and that TINS
must be so because the ORGANIZATION OF
4 q patriarch was known only as the
r~orxanIzed church. Mr.. Smith parrted
Esfder waddupsf thrusts skiifully ana
,r~,sed home several points which ne
lacked up by references to the BOOK
~ Mormon and the Book Of Covenants
Then the two ehurchmen drifted into
n sfscus3ion on baptism. which orousht
INTO question the unfinished temple AZ
Nauvoo. m. and the temple At salt
Iaie. Elder waddups said he knew
that baptisns were performed IN tne
Nauvoo temple and with the fun an.
tnortty Of revelation and the temporal
.-.-. 80 ,h~ church. which Mr.. Smith
st~nf~d- claiming that the Sauvoo tenn
,t~ was an unfinished structure and
th~r~fore not a place for baptism ae.
.-o-alnr co revelations which ne quossD
were you there7'' Inquired the pa
e,tarrh. Mr.. waddups. who = ABOUT
"A wears OF age. smiled ana sottir 70
lied that he had not been thrre anr-
isx the EOS We'll. j was. ana Ass |,
es. too said the patrtaFsn.
t,ow whereof 7 speak" TIE dcoat.
vss.Ia nave eoatinusd indshniteS BAD
n.. Mr.L YoanE cordially extended nsr
basd % th- patriarch and said 500
r1rn,- ana tnS larxs audience then DIS
psrsed-
rn~ o.frfarrh was infroduced TO the
-asi~ue- py President Waller. In ths
course of hts remarks the latter saia
tsaf when Brigham Young took away
thousands OF the members OF ID"
ehurch westward. they made All man
n-r OF Inducements 30 the rnernosrs os
~. family or the uartyrvd propnrt 20
:, vIth therSs. Offering them riches and
. co~~r. nut the srIiths refused TO AZ
ef,afs with them tn any way
Patriarch Smith spoke mainly 70 tne
f-.f sOu this rock ! viii build nS
rnarrn-- He said We were hVinE W
. ,hurrn- -buffdiuE age. not he ouiid-
-. os houses OF worship. but IN
. -. vvh~n men were gathering In con-
rr.ratIons and forming reliSio1s or
~a.izaffoun. Hs said that Christ pro.
rc->d to build n ehurcn tN@s -
land forever and prevail aEAins' IN. ~
rs..r. az evil. lie said that he and
.S.-. ~ ais church had been charged
vnn vvor~nspping n man. the propns'
Js-~ph Smith. This he denied. re
..,s therr was nothing IN the serip-
fur-s by which n man could Dc made @ tns
ssj-ct OF worship In the sense tnat ". ~.
f.9rd. Jesus Christ. is respected as an
aat~ct OF human alteration
The venerable ehurcnman tnen syos
a.. a,s,,,-, bach 20 the times In which
,,h-f-t lived. and told OF the inciaents
.,-rouodlnx Christ when he declared
nsu re would build his church; OF ms
/, ,.-ndinx his apostles TO all tne warla
10 preach the gospel: OF the departuls l'liI
\ - the church In later times mo ape.-
ta-y and forwctfuiness OF ,he Mas'
directions He told no" MAJ ..Ft In -,
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