The Washington times., 1902-03-14
Ship Subsidies, He De-
clares, Will Provide
Necessary Carriers.
SOUTH AMERICAN MARKETS
United States Denied Them Because of
Necessity to Ship Goods by Way of
Liverpool-Senator Berry Attacks the
Measure.

Senator Berry. for the Democrats. and
Senator Perkins, for the Republicans,
yesterday talked on the shipping bill.
taking positions for and against the
measure.
Senator Berry was the first speaker.
He is a minority member of the Commit
tee on Commerce.
A Matter of Degree.
One of the reasons urged in favor OF
the bill. Mr.. Berry said. was that it vas
not altogether so bad as the bill which
failed in the last Congress. This was
somewhat faint praise. and fain.
praise was said to be at times me:e dam
aging than direct criticism.
In his judgment the pending bill was
one particular. and one only. In othe
particulars it was worse. and in others
equally bad.
He flung back the taunt offered the
Democratic conscience by Mr.. Depew Of
New York, and, while contending that his
party stood firmly against unconstitntion-
al acts, he declared that with the ma
jority it had seemed to be quite the popu-
lar thing to ignore the Constitution.
Morgan Syndicate Deals.
Mr.. Berry sent to the Clerks desk and
had read an article from the New York
Journal of Commerce of last Tuesday.
giving particulars of the proposed deal Of
the Morgan syndicate to obtain control of
various steamship lines, including the
White Star Line, the American Line, the
Red Star Line and the Leyland Line.
Does the Senator" said Mr.. Hanna
(Rep., ohio) state of his own knowledge
that Mr.. Morgan has purchased these
steamship lines?"
Il have no other knowledge Of the fact
Mr.. Berry replied, than from the article
just read"
You base your statement" Mr. Hanna
asked, "only on a newspaper statement"
Does the Senator say it is not true?'
Mr.. Berry asked
Mr.. Hanna Unadvised.
Il do not know anything about It," was
Mr.. Hanna's reply
After some further colloquy Mr.. Hanna
said:
Does the Senator contend that under
this bill, single vessel that is now
foreign ship can receive any benefit"
Not unless she is admitted to American
register Mr.. Berry replied
How can she be admitted" Mr. Hanna
persisted
by an act of Congress" said Mr. Berry.
Under certain conditions Mr. Hanna
Under conditions" said Mr.. Berry,
that Congress sees fit to impose"
Tor y. IL ys,Ef
most exhaustive yet delivered on the
Measure. He reviewed at length its diff
erent sections, pointing out the great
benefits which, he said, would be derived
10Th from the mail pay provision and the
general subsidy.
The Trade of the Orient.
He made a strong plea for the Asiatic
rade. which. he said, is waiting for this
country if 1t will build the ships.
He told the story of a prominent mer-
hant who said that the South American
markets are open for Americans, but that
t is impossible to send goods to them
'ecause Of the lack of ships. He stated
hat 1t is necessary to send goods first
o Liverpool and then reship them to
outh America. l.-,
Not Partisan Measure.
He did not know why 1t should be made
partisan measure, because every pa
riotic citizen wanted to see the ocean
arrying trade restored to the United
tates.
He closed long and earnest speech
Tith the declaration that there was no
uestion that the bill would result in
the general welfare and pros
erity. not only in every seaport of the
ountry, but that every industry of the
ountry would be benefited by it.
After a short executive session the
enate, at $50, adjourned until today.