The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1902-01-09

/ 50 that he could offer an amendment
| It was lost.
| Chairman Hunton moved to reconsider
| the vote by which that portion of sec
ton was adopted, restricting the popu-
| lation of new circuits to be created by
the Legislature, to $4,000. He salG ne
desired to place the limit at 10000. The
! motion to reconsider was strenuously re-
sisted, but was adopted-ayes, 80; noes, n
| Mr. r. Walton Moore moved to substi-
| tute 10000 for $4,000
| DR.. 'Dunaway moved to make 1t IS. 600
| Mr.. TurnbulI strongly opposed both
amendments He said 1t was only an
| invitation to the Legislature to increase
| the number of judges md circuits unta
the new system with high salaries OF
| judges would become intolerable.
Mr.. Stuart earnestly urgeo the adoption
| of the amendment.
| Mr. Gillespie spoke In favor of the
| amendment
Mr.. r. Walton Moore. In speaking to
| his amendment, called attention to the
| fact that no population limit was placed
| on the city circuits. He said that unless
the population limit was cut down to
| 40 GOO a. great mistake would be made,
| for it would practically tie the hands of
/ the Legislature, and prevent relief that
| might be needed in some counties to De
| afforded by monthly terr-s tie Thought
the salary of the judges would be suffi-
| cient restriction to prevent the Iegsla-
| ture from creating unnecessary circuits.
| The Dunaway amendment was rejected.
AMENDMENT ADOPTED.
The .Aoore amendment was adopteu-
| ayes, 60; noes, 2G
| MI. Turnrull moved to amend section
| nine, providing that the General Assem-
| bly, should not change the present diVls-
| ion of circuits Until four years after the
| adoption of the Constitution. He con-
tended that in this way the people would
be allowed to become accustomed to the
| new circuits and become attached to
them before an effort was made by inter-
ested parties to carve out new circuits,
change the present and upset the arrange
ment generally. The amendment was
adopte6-ayes, "A; noes. IS.
| Mr. Thorn changed his vote SO that he
| could move a reconsideration. AS soon
as it was announced, ne moved to recon-
4. slider the vote by which the amendment
| was adopted. He declared that the sys-
TEN proposed was at best experimental
and it would not do to tie the hands Of
the Legislature for four years.
Mr.. Turnbull again showed the 1mpor-
lance Of allowing the people to become
accustomed to the boundaries established.
| asserting that they could otherwise be
imposed upon by designing men,
| MOTION PREVAILED.
| The motion to reconsider prevailed
! ayes, ~: noes, s..
/ Mr.. Thorn moved the pending question
and the amendment was oefeated-ayes
4 Al; noes, IL
i The Republicans voted solidly against
/ the amendment.
Mr.. James NJ Gordon moved that the
] circuits should not be rearransed or dis
! turbed until after the expiration of two
i years from the adoption Of the Constitu-
1 ton The amendment was a0opted-ayeS,
| 49,: noes. 49,
MIR. Walker moved to reconsider the
| vote, and asked that the motion to recon
slider be laid on the table: This was done,
1 and the 'clincher'' was thus applied to
| section nine as amended.
Sections eighteen, nineteen. twenty
twenty-one and twenty-five were then
ADOPTED without amendment, debate or
division. They completed the report of
the committee. as amended in Committee
OF the Whole
Mr.. James w Gordon moved to rein
sert section twenty-three. relating to
justices of the peace, which had been
struck out in Csonn,itten of the Whole.
By THE PEOPLE.
/ DR.. McIlwaine moved to amend by pro-
/ viding that justices of tie peace be
elected by the people. This brought on a
lively debate. Messrs. Meredith and
Green contending that in cities at least
the election of ju-tices by the people
would never do, because the people
(. would pay no attention to the mat
i Dr. McIlwaine insisted that,;if his suf-
frage plan was adopted the ignorant or
! vicious white vote in the cities would be
weedeG, out.
i Judge Green retorted that the Utopian
dreams of cloi-te men were beautiful
from an aesthetic point OF view. but
were out of place in framing practical
Constitution under a democratic form of
government for practical everyday peo-
1 pie He said DR.. McIIwaine might work
I>from now until doom's day and he
wouldSnot be able to evangelize the world
i by means of.-his suffrage plan or any
body ese's. He preferred the appoint
4 ment of justices Of the peace by the cir
cult judge.
i Mr. J. w. Gordon made an earnest
1 speech in opposition to DR.. Mc1lwaine's
motion to elect justices of the peace by
the people.
Mr.. b. T. Gordon strongly advocated it.
i REPORT FINISHED.
The motion to. elect by the people pre-
vailed-ayes, 81; noes: Is.
Mr. Thorn moved to amend by allowing
4 cities of the first class to have justices
4 elected or prescribed by the Legislature.
Adopted.
Mr.. Meredith then offered a substitute
4 for the section as amended. by requiring
q the counties to elect their justices. but
\ providing, that justices in cities Of the
Z first class shall be appointed by judges
& of the Hastings Courts.
Il MrsJames W. Gordon asked that he be
s. allowed to Withdraw his original motion
to reinsert the section that had been
struck out in Committee of the Whole.
q The President ruled he couldn't do 1t.
4 The Meredith substitute was lost-ayes,
q 81: noes, 81.
Mr. Barbour offered substitute giving
. tic the Legislature the right to provide