The Hawaiian gazette., 1902-05-06

Thomas Hughes.
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as to Senator's?
Governor Dole-The same, except II
is provided that they shall be elected
for four years.
Senator Burton-Can we pass an act
saying who has been elected TO the
Legislature of Hawaii?
Governor Dole-No; but you can pass
an act selecting from these seven men
those who shall hold only for two years.
! suppose.
Senator Burton-How can we do 1t?
Governor Dole-By passing this bill.
Senator Burton-But where do We get
. the authority to DO It?
The Chairman-We are the source OF
all authority on the subject. This act
Is ours. We can amend 1t or take ac-
ton under it. / presume.
Senator Burton-Yes; we might wipe
out the Legislature, Senator, but could
We simply say, by an act, who has
been elected and who has not?
The chairman am inclined to think
so, but that is perhaps debatable
proposition
Governor Dole-No. it is not who has
Every one admits that. The question
is which of these seven men shall have
a term of two years only instead of
| four.
Senator Mitchell--What would be the
| objection to casting lots, and determine
! ing in that way?
Governor Dole-Then the lots would
not come right in regard to the differ
ent districts.
| Senator Kearns-Coud you not settle
/ the question by drawing separately for
| each district?
Governor Dole-That would settle it,;
yes.
Senator Kearns-Would that settle it
satisfactorily to all parties concerned?
Governor Dole--l can not speak for
the Home Rule Party. l think Mr..
Carter and Mr. Thurston are more in
touch with the Republican party on
| that subject. 1t would be a great deal
| better to do that than to do nothing.
! The Chairman-What is that?
! Governor Dole-To cast lots.
| Senator Kearns-Our Legislature was
formed in that way. At the first gem
= eral election the Senators were COM
/ PEELED to draw lots for the long and
short terms.
Senator Mitchell--We do it here in
the Senate.
/ Senator Mallory-It has always been
| the rule of Legislative bodies.
| Senator Mitchell-But they can not
| all be drawn together. as the gentle
! man states, because they apply to the
! different districts.
! The Chairman-Who prepared this
| bill? Was it prepared in Hawaii or by
somebody here?
Governor Dole-lt was prepared by
| the Republican executive committee OF
Honolulu.
| The Chairman-Nery well. think we
| understand the facts in regard to this
| matter. SO far as these other questions
are concerned we may have different
| opinions, and we can debate them after
| the witnesses have gone.
| l will ask you now, Governor, to look
at House bill 1897, entitled IAN act
| granting TO the Hawaii Ditch Com
| pany, Limited. the right of way over
| public lands in the districts of North
| and South Kohala," etc, and give us
the benefit of any observations you may
care to make on that measure. 1t has
| passed the House, and has been sent tC
| this committee
| Governor Dole-I think Mr.. Hitch
cock sent you letter on that subject
| did he not?
The Chairman-He did.
Governor Dole-That letter contains
mainly, my points OF objection. 1t is 6
complicated matter. There are som,
private interests which are affected
but how much we can not tell. 1t /,
very hard TO tell, from the present in
formation.
We object to the bill because. accord
ing TO the last rulings OF the interior
Department, the Territory has full con
troll of this matter; and il seems to b,
establishing an unfortunate preceden
to have Congress legislate in matter
of local concern. where the local gov
eminent has fun authority. 1t woul,
encourage constant applications to Con
gress in local matters by people VIII
have private interests to subserve w
should be sorry to have that practic
become regular.
Another objection is that the descrip
ton Of the watershed Is vague and yer