The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1902-02-12
THE STORY OF GLAND
Quarreling Was Much in Vogue at
Nelson's Saloon
THE DAY CARLSON WAS STABBED
Carlson Had Been Quiet and Had
Taken No Part In
Trouble.

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In the trial Of John Johnson for the
murder Of Claus Carlson yesterday AS
sistant County Surveyor Stoopes identified
a plat OF Nelson's saloon at 1913 Second
Street and Herman GLAND was called upon
to tell what he knew of the events in the
saloon on Christmas day
Johnson and Carlson, the murdered
man, and others We're in the rear room
Of the saloon during the afternoon. There
was some trouble. Johnson went away
and was gone about half an hour.
When johnson returned he and one Nat
Wig renewed pickering which had been 60
Ing on before, and Natvig knocked John
son doWn-'took a poke at him." the wit
ness aid, Carlson took no part in the
and the witness. He took no hand in the
affair except to assist Johnson when he
was Knocked down. Johnson had a knife
in his hand when he entered.
The witness and Natvig left after John
son was knocked over. They went into
the bar room and stood at the stove about
ten minutes. Then Johnson came out and
grabbed Natvig by the shoulder and
| turned him around. Some one called out:
Look out. he's got a knife in his hand. y
Johnson returned to the rear room ant
| some time after one Weise called out
He testified that Carlson had been en-
Ing Carlson. Weise was standing in the
doorway leading into the rear room.
The witness and Natvig then left thu
saloon. H.
GLAND Cross-Examined.
GLAND testified, on cross-examination
that Johnson came into the room AM
shouted: If I find my man I'll murde
MIN. He then came toward NatVig ant
made thrust at him with the knife.
struck the chair, making small cut
Natvlg's attention was called to the at
tempted assault and he arose and pushe,
Johnson away. The latter went out O.
was led out by the bartender.
Asked why he had not spoken of thi
| attempted assault in his direct testimony
the witness said he had not been asked
! He had, however, told the same story a
| the coroner's inquest.
GLAND said that he saw no one in tn
room with a knife except Johnson. He di
I.QOt see any women in the room, but re
| membered crippled man, who had roy
with another man. The cripple had no
| interfered in disturbance between Nat
I Wig and a woman.
! About half an hour after striking a
Natvig with the knife Johnson returned
Natvig promptly knocked him down, be
| lieving that he was to be assaulted again
The two then went out of the room, leav
ing Johnson on the floor.
In reply to Judge Pond he said that a
1.-the time he and Natvig left the rear room
ECarlson and Johnson were the only one
left in the room. Some one might hav
come in through the rear room, bu
Johnson and Carlson were the only one
there so far as he knew.
Erick Natvig corroborated the stor
of his chum GLAND in every detail, ex
cept that he did not know that John
son had struck at him with knife unit
he had been told. He admitted hav
ing knocked Johnson down. This h
: did, as he believed Johnson had a knife
Hhe testified that Carlson had been en-
tirely peaceful in the room and had take
no part in any of the trouble. TIL
witness admitted that he had been. un
der the influence of liquor.