The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1902-01-29

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same thing had he been Secretary of the
| Treasury
Mr. Bacon expressed his qualification
that no general order suspending the nav
igation laws had been issued
| Mr.. Lodge objected to the immediate
consideration of the joint resolution Of
fercd by Mr.. Bacon, and it went over.
DENIED STATEMENT.
Referring to a recent criticism OF Cen
eral Merritt, former commander OF the
| Department of the East. for some state
| ments he was reported to have made in a
| public speech Mr. Foraker presented
| letter from General Merritt denying en-
| phatically that he ever had SAID the
Constitution was an antiquated document
and ought to be abolished.
After a rather breezy colloquy between
Mr.. spooner and Mr.. Tillman, the latter
asked Mr.. spooner to say explicitly
whether the Philippine Islands were d
part Of the United States.
sI recommend" replied Mr.. Spooner,
THAT the Senator read the decisions Of
the Supreme Court
II have read some of those decisions,
Mr.. Til!man said, "but with four judges
on one side and four on the other and the
| -nllu -WdDOIuS,s 1etOdiI 4ioL MANI A4AeS''A
out of them
..Whatever mavgl lie said about their de-
cisons.'' replied Mr.. Spooner, Il don't
think that the justices of the Supreme
Court will be very sensitive as to the
Senator's criticism. 49,
Mr. rilllnan:t112gl. not al all" .theS
Mr. Spooner: THE Supreme Court set
tied one thing, and that is that there IS
a distinction between the United states
81 no init oil
States
HOT TILL.
While Mr.. Spooner was proceeding with
| his speech he was Interrupted by Mr.
Tilman, and in an instant a, sensational
colCquy was in progress. Mr.. Gilman
inquired: .'Will the Sena-or allow nc 10
ask him if the Patti amendment had been
defeated by DEBATE until the end Of the
session, would that side have had cour-
age to have gone forward IN its philan-
thrcpy. humanity and all that kind of
I'll ng and to have called an extra ses-
sfon?''
Mr. Spooncr: eve have courage enough
on this side to do anything on GARTH
Mr. Tillman: Except to defend the
negro
Mr.. Spooner: eve have not courage
enough to lynch colored men or deprive
| them of their rights
MIR. Tilman: Does the Senator wish
to discuss the race question here. lie
seems to have left the proposition which
| he started in to throw a. personal fling
at me- | am ready to meet him here, in
Wisconsin. or anywhere else on the race
question"
Mr.. Spooncr: "Wherever the Senator is
willing to meet me on that question Or
any other, he will find me there. 80 far
| as that is concerned. The Senator ad-
dressed to me an observation rather o.
| fensivc in its character
Mr.. Tillman: cit certainly had no aliG-
sion to lynching."
Mr.. Spooncr: NO
Mr. Tillman: "And the Senator un1c:
stands very well that 1 come from Il sec
ton of country where lynchings fo. a
given crime and for a good many Cther
crimes are very prevalent Now does the
Senator wish to leave the Philippine
proposition, on which he is dealing, with
4 coored people in 4 most infamous and
damnable and hypocritical way, and SO
South and hold them M as examples
that we are dealing with in Il sin,iiar
way? I mean the coIoced people here ct
home"
are we to have two rules Of conduct
in regard to the colorcd peoptc-one in
the Philippines, by which we butcher
them and shoot Christianity into thcm
not allowed to protect our wives and chill
dren?"
Mr.. Spooner: "If we had the same rule
for the colored people in the Philippines
as the Senator refers to in the South,
| Cod help the colored man in the Philip
| pines"
Mr.. Tiilman: God help him. In the
| Philippines now you have already butch
cred in three years three times as many
| as the Spaniards did in three centuries"
| Mr.. Spooner: sit is one thing to kill
! men with arms in their hands against
| a Government and against the 1lag. 1t
| is another thing to burn them.
EASY TO THEORIZE.
! Mr. ,rillman: you burned them II
| Kansas, sir"
Mr.. Spooner: .Wherever it is doue 1t
| is an outrageous crime,
Mr.. Tillman: ooh, it Is a. very easy
| thing for man who has not co ne in con-
| tact with them in close quarters TO ti'co-
rize and Sentimentallze as to what other
people ought to do =
Mr.: Tillman was admonished by the
president pro ten. that he must not in
terrupt a Senator without first obtaining
| leave, to which he replied that ''he Was
.aunted in a way that no white man from
South Carolina could submit TO.
After a little collouuy, Mr.. Tillman
said: Now know that fos q farmer like
me to discuss the lega! points with
giant in the law like the Senator from
wisconsin is a temerity that would lay
me over to the accusation of that old
docgereI that fools rush in where angels
fear to tread and am fool enough to
ask him when he quoted the Constitu-s
ZION a nom ent ago i'll regard 10 the
newer of Congress in dealing with terri
tory and other property, did he include