The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1902-09-30
WILL The JURY
BELIEVE AMES?
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SELF"
This was stricken out.
| Couldn't you have sent written orders
to these women. SO they could; have had
something to show when the collectors
came around?" g. @. ays1 ~
IT suppose could have: yes" ~
"Now, colonel, when you went into these
places you invariably stepped into back
room with the women and left your de-
tectives In front, didn't you?'
'That was not at my suggestion. Mr..
Boardman." .r
But why did you go?"
"1he women would invite me to step
into the sittms-roorn and complied just
as any man would be courteous to wo-
man no matter what her position"
why didn't you deliver your order In
the front room where the detectives could
hear what was going on? You were in a
hurry and that was the quickest way,
wasn't it?" s..s = "
II suppose it might have been done that
way. Did you ever 80 into one of those
cigar stores, Mr.. Boardman?"
mo, I didn't" replied the county at
torney. ..' -. ~
well. if you had I guess you would
have done just as did" a
II probably would if had gone there
with the same purpose retorted Mr..
| Boardman dryly. '.
Cohen Admitted Collecting.
The witness was next questioned re-
garding his acquaintance with Joseph Co
| hen. He said he had met Cohen on the
street some time in April, after their
| names had been coupled in the papers.
What did you say?" asked Mr.. Board
| man. .- ,,t...,e 81
II told him understood people were ac-
cusing me Of completely with him in maxi
| ing collections from the women. : He
1oyI al nd coiI ha <srSf Inv f1,nxy
| should mix me up in it. He said: i've
been collecting money for campaign
purposes and I've turned it over to Colonel
Tanner
"You understood that this money came
from the women?' .a -a. 49,. .- g..
Il did, -....-.
But you didn't go around, as you had
before. and notify them to stop paying?"
| mo- SIR
'Why not?"~ 49,.
II had other matters to attend to-"
| Did you ever tell Wirtensohn that he
must say he got his orders to accompany
| Cohen from headquarters, but must not
remember that he got them from you?"
HE knew he didn't get them from me.
OF course didn't tell him that He told
| me he didn't know who issued the order
and he always said that up to the time Of
| this trial. '''>
| He told you, you say. that the order
came from headquarters" :"
| Eyes, SIR"
did you ever inquire who issued that
order?" \
II don't think I did"
'"Why not?"
II didn't think it would do me any
good"
THAT is quite possible" said Mr..
Boardman. significantly.
Asked about Bracket the former chief
said he had applied for a vacation but that
the request had been denied.
HE left in a hurried manner, didn't
he?" asked Mr.. Boardman.
| mot that know OFF, ~
| But he left?" .... ..1:<.5
Il guess he did. I haven't seen him
fsince" "-. ~ ~.
| do you know why he went?"
[ "No, except that an Indictment appeared
against him shortly afterwards
On redirect examination the former chief
Testified that he had never succeeded In
getting the mayor to remove man from
the police force, although he had made
several recommendations to that effect
not connected with the police department
! Wheesoek on Arnes' Talk. -
Ernest wheelock, the deposed chiefs
secretary was the next witness. He was
asked regarding a conversation between
the chief, himself and Norbeck relative t
| Gardeners reported collection of money ir
the red light district, but the questions
were ruled out temporarily. .'.'.< {: -,
i ! Colonel Ames was then called to lay 8
foundation and testified that he had only
one talk with Norbeck regarding the lis,
of disreputable houses he intended tt
| visit. f. NIX. - :, = ~
Mr. wheelocl then testified that Anne.
had said, in Norbeck's presence, that he
wouldn't stand for anybody collecting
money from the women. He had never
heard Ames tell Norbeck that they would
go around to the houses and tell the
women to stop paying until they heart
further.
The witness also testified that he hat
talked with Wtrtensohn about the order
for him to accompany Cohen. The de.
tective had told him the order came from
headquarters, but did not seem quite
clear who had issued it. Although pressed
could not remember what Wirtensohn hat
said, although he was certain the detectiv.
had not been quite clear, ...--"
| Mrs. Arnes, the defendants wife, testi
fed that Wirtensohn had twice told he
he did not get tho order from the chief.
ct asked him why he didn't say that OF
the stand and he replied that they wanted
him to say something against the chic
and that they would get him II h.
didn't" she continued. 7 asked il h
knew where the order came from and h
said he did, but that he wasn't going t,
mix up anybody else in it,
! Under cross examination Mrs. Anne
/ said her second talk with Wirtensohn hat
been at his home and that he had told he
he couldn't say anything against tn
chief II they should throw him off tn
roof Of the Guaranty building. l.
/ Frank A. Hubachek followed. He Il
I one Of Ames' attorneys and had bee,
1 present on several occasions when wir
ttensohn called. He testified that Wir
tensohn had ONCE denied that the orde
> came from Ames.
United States Marshal w. H. Grimshav
sad" he had known Colonel Ames for, fort
years and that his reputation had bee1
& good up othe time Of the municipal in
vestigation.
Dr. Edwin Phillips had known Colone
Ames for thirty years and said his repu
tation had been good up to the time o
the scandal.
E. W. Goddard said he didn't kno,
what other people thought, but he per
sonally regarded the coloners reputato
as good.
H. Staples said Ames reputation Ia
been good up to last summer.
M E. Smith agreed with Mr. Staples.
DR.. H. H.. Kimball said the chief
reputation always was and still continue
good.
IS May Go to jury To-day.
An effort will be made to send the cas-
to the jury tonight, although it may pos
sibly go over until morning.