The Irish standard. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn. ;) 1886-1920, 1902-11-15

III sure lleN wouldn't have asked
'"r an audience or suggested that thcy
wished to be invited The English nn-
lrrs reported the invitation simply in
order to have opportunity to publish
aftrrwarlS what would seem to be
dishcartcning snubbing of them by
the Emperor"
lit was the English papers which
started the lie about the Dutch pcoD)c
being so antayonistic towards Prince
Henry, Queen Wilhclmima's husband.
And 1t was the same sort of thing
when the Boer generals were i'm Hol-
land. They did not so there with
any idea that the queen would see
them, no matter what the English pa
pers have said about it."
DO you think that what Dr. Lcyds
has done has always been to the best
interest of the Boers?"
"Ive always believed in him." was
the reply. "But it is impossible to say
whether what was done will prove
best in the end. I've been charged
with doing things detrimental to our
cause, but no one in the world has
its welfare more deeply at heart. DR..
Lcyds has always done what lie be-
licvcd to be the best | have every
| faith in him."
What are your impressions of Lord
kitchcncr?'
"My idea of Lord Kitchener is that
if left alone he will speak the truth
sometimes. There have been times
! when he has done the unmanly thing
He and Lord Miner promised us that
Mt the coronation Of King Edward
they would ask for general amnesty
for the Cape rebels. When amnesty
was being discussed, when he had
met to sign the trcaty of peace, Lord
Miner would not hear of it; he oppos-
ed 1T from the first, and was very bit
ter. But Lord Kitchener turned to
General Botha with great considera-
Lion because he undoubtedly admired
his soldierly Iualitics--;nd caught
him by the coat so' (Mr. Reitz laid
| firm hold of the lapels of his coat,
"and said to him out of Miners hear
ing: If Miner doesn't agree to
amnesty, I'll make him.
owe believed, and in that belief sign
ed the peace treaty, but there was
nothing in the treaty itself about gen.
era! amnesty Mr.. Chamberlain re-
pndiatcs the statements made to us,
and Lord Kitchener sits by afraid.
II am keenly disappointed that Lord
kitclcner's promise has not been full
filled, but Mr.. Chamberlain avoids it.
He says that only what is enclosed
by the four sides of the treaty is bind
ing. He seems to think, too, that
signed in my personal capacity, but
did not. said to Lord Kitchener at
the time: you understand, do you
not, that sign this paper in my repre-
sentative, not my personal, capacity?'
and he replied, Yes, certainly Now
Kitchener says that Miner is the best
| man in South Africa, the best man to
manage affairs there, and in recent
speech to Il crowd of 'handsuppers' or
'joiners,' as we call them-the men
who have yielded-that he couldn't
understand why DeWet and Steyn
were still up in arms, unless it was to
gain money for themselves.
"Chamberlain does not want me in
South Africa. He as much as said so
because he must know that am not
and never will be a British subject
He wanted us all sworn in as subjects
and l recall one snag his people
struck. I'hey wanted to swear in a
whole commando, but there happened
to be German lieutenant of artillery
in it. They couldn't swear him in, so
they didn't know what to do.
II see by the papers," he said in the
same amused mood, shat the Ameri-
can general Young, has asked the
British to send twelve of their soldiers
to this country to teach the American
army gymnastics. I hope it will not