New-York tribune., 1902-01-17
WAR DEBATE REGUN.
LORD ROSEBERY QUESTIONS LORD
SALISBURY.
TILT IN THE COMMONS BETWEEN CHAM
BERLAIN AND HARCOURT.

well filled when business resumed. The
Prince of Wales occupied the seat formerly used
by his father. Many peeresses were in the GAL
lery. The Lord Chancellor, Earl Halsbury. for
mally read the Kings speech.
The Earl of Harrowby, Conservative In mov-
ing the address in reply to the speech from the
throne, referred to the non-interference of for
eign powers in the South African war being
evidence of their friendly relations.
The Earl of Lytton, who seconded the motion.
congratulated the government ION their more
than. friendly relations with the United States
and the South American republics" He added
that, though affairs in Ireland were considered
critical they might safely be left in the hands
OF the government
Earl Spencer, Liberal. crfticising the address,
said that. while he recognized the impossibility
of granting the Boer demands for independence
yet he deprecated insistence on unconditional
surrender. His lordship urged the government
to promise the Beers autonomy similar to the
governments of Australia and Canada.
The Premier Lord Salisbury. whose entrance
into the house was greeted with hearty ap-
plause, said he was glad to hear Earl Spencer
vent an utteranoe for which he. the Premier.
had been frequently and unsparingly con-
demned. II quite true that there was no
possibility Of granting the Beers independence.
Neither was it the governments business after
Beers OF what terms they would be forgiven,
especially since the Beers had not yet expressed
wish to he forgiven.
Lord Salisbury continued by defending martial
law in South Africa and urged the Opposition
to remember they were not dealing with the
question whether they could make out good
case against the government. The Premier
pleaded that they should not allow their eager
ness TO improve their party position 10 make
them +ba ,,-ba
Britain should be victor in the war. He re-
minded the Opposition that a wrong settlement
now would impose grave difficulties and embar-
easements upon the nation for many years to
come
Replying to the Premier. Lord Rosebery said
he favored a passive policy OF peace which
would receive overtures when these were made
AMI that in this connection he wished to know
TIE truth of the rumors concerning the visit to
London Of DR. Kuyper, the Premier of Holland.
Had DR.. Kuyper brought such overtures?"
Not far as I know" answered Lord Sails
bury
Have any overtures been received from the
Boer leaders in Europe?" asked Lord Rose
berry.
To this question Lord Salisbury answered
NO"
IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.
bers when the House of Commons met at
o'clock this afternoon, TO begin the work Of the
session Irish affairs cropped up almost i'm
mediately Earl Percy. Conservative. eldest son
of the Duke of Northumberland and Member for
the South Division of Kensington, moving a
resolution to the effect that the election from
Galway of Colonel Arthur Lynch who was
commonly and notorously reported to have aid
ed the Kings enemies" insult to the
a he ed to
consider the course to pursue.
The Speaker, William Court Gully declined to
accept the motion until notice of II given
in the usual way.
After the speech from the throne had been
formally read and the address in reply had been
moved and seconded, the Liberal - der. Sir
Henry Campbell Bannerman. spoke in general
terms against the course of the government in
South Africa. urging Cancellation in place of
brute force He said the same to a large meas
ure, true Of Ireland. where the government
at present was 'founderng between concession
and coercion" and urged the adoption of the
most liberal programme toward Ireland.
Sir William Vernon Harcourt UiberaD by
attacking the institution OF martial law in the
Cape Colony and by accusing the government
of grossly unconstitutional conduct in advising
the ministers Of the Cape Colony not to summon
the Cape Parliament brought up Mr.. Chamber
lain. the Colonial Secretary, who was in a most
militant mood. Mr. Chamberlain declared that
Sir William Vernon Harcourt ought to have
placed a question of such vast Importance in
the form of an amendment, and proceeded to
Justify absolutely the action of the Cape gov
Mr.. Chamberlain said he did not care
a scrap for legal opinions one side the
other, that the government had to deal with an
emergency. and that it had followed the uni
versa practice Of all countries. He also said
the government of the Cape Colony would ask
Parliament to indemnify their acts.
Sir William Vernon HarcOurt asked when
will that be done?'
Mr. Chamberlain retorted When Is the war
going to end?" CLaughter and cheers)
Holm Redmond chairman of the Irish parlia-
mentary party)-By the next general election.
In the course Of his speech, Mr.. Chamberlain
was protesting against the suggestion that he
should overrule the Privy Council, when Mr..
interjeCted:
Hear Hear! You ought to be King"
Amid laughter. Mr.. Chamberlain replied: |
That is very good of the honorable gentleman.
but that is not my ambition"
The House of Commons then adjourned.
Mr. MacNeill Irish Nationalist (member for
South DonegaD, created the earliest scene by !
deploring the fact that Nationalist members had
.been immured in dungeons the behest of Mr.. !
Wyndham' Ghe Chief Secretary for Ireland |
He moved the appointment of A committee to
investigate the matter When the Speaker de-
clined to accept the motion, Mr.. MacNel ques- |
toned his ruling and was called to order.
The Chancellor OF the Exchequer Sir Michael |
Hicks Beach. has given out definite assurance
in the forthcoming Budget.
The Irish members held their usual sessional
meeting this afternoon. and decided to move |
amendments to the address in reply to the speech
from the throne condemning coercion the South
African war, the concentration camps in South
Africa and the financial relations between Ire
land and Great Britain.
Several amendments to the address were
finally adopted: these included petition for the
revision of the Irish land and taxation laws
protests against the enforcement of the Crimes
Act and the operation Of certain courts and
against the concentration camps in South
a Africa Another amendment contained an ap-
peal for the relief of the congested districts and
the better housing of the working classes in Ire
land.