The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1902-10-22
DEMOCRATS CHIRK UP A BIT.
NIL TAKES NCZZLE OFF birdie
SHEPARD, roo. NAY TALK.
~" the Next Legislature Il Democratic
John =. Carroll VIII he Pushed for
a. -. SenatOr-"If" the Figures Come
Out This Way toier VIII Be Elected.

sIOnn J.. NaTrOii VIII be PusnN IOr
4. =. Senator-"If" the Figures Come
Out This Way Coier VIII Br Elected.
The Democratic State ship. which has
beof carecning wildly in a ~ orm of Demo-
cratic cri'ici-m riglird itself -oin.w hat yes.
'crday afternoon, and last night seemed 10
be riding OF an even keel David u. Hill,
who holds the tiller. had hearkened to the
word that he was open To the same criti
ci-m Mr.. Croker incurred in 1895 when Mr..
Croker talked Van Wyck TO death, and ho
decided that Birdie nigh, sing II he cared O.
President Joseph Cassidy Of the Borough
OF Queens and the member of the Demo-
cratic State Committee who spoke up for
Deyery's admission to the convention at
Saratoga. WAS at The Hoffman llous. yes
terday. He said few things which were
conveyed 10 Mr.. Hill. President Cassidy
said:
I'd like to see Dave Hill try TO put any
gum shoes or gags on me- When come
To- the-e Headquarters | ray what ! think
and | Say it out loud The campaign is
badly managed II looks to me a. il some
people didn't care whether or not Coler
wins. They have not organized n club
ia IN state, or made an tfurt to arouse
ia" young mon for the ticket. ] lave
already told Hill wha, think Of his methods.
and II were in Colcr'- place I'd get out and
do little work on my own account. That
j. Nae way | feel about II Maybe II l.
going 10 he landslide, hu, n few clubs
and slight effort Ia arouse some interest
wouldn't do any harm"
Chairman Frank Campbell Of the Demo-
cratic state Committee has tied his shoes
80 tight recently IN his efforts TO maint ain
a nas'erful silence a. 10 what is going OH al
headquarters. that he has felt the effects
OF the strain, and 30 John y Carlisle. Demo-
cratic stat" Executive Chairman. did the
talking Yesterday Mr. Carlisle is very
highly thought Of in Watcrtown, jefferson
county In his life'im" he has visited
New York several times. and one or two
other big cities. like Buffalo, Rochester and
Syracuse Sometimes he has even gone ar
far a. Albany. When Mr.. Carlisle became
executive chairman he seemed to he dazed
by the awful responsibility, and under ths
admonitlon Of Mr. Hill, TO be afraid 10 VEN
ture out Of he Hoffman House after dark
Secretary John 4. Mason, though l. an old
timer in New York city Affairs and he il
also Couversant with political matters up
the state, and last night Mr.. Carlisle. pilo,ed
by Mr.. Mason yeutured out Of the Hoffman
House a. far a. Madison Square Mr..
Carlisle was greatly relieved when he re-
turned unharm"d, and I've said
"Mr. tulrr ha- not been mu22led. Mr..
tol"r j. not the kind Ot a man 10 bc mu22ed
he Is m" candidate, b" L. h" man that will
bc elected or defeated and he will do Just
"a h" pl"ase-. 90 course, however, Mr..
tolor j. taking adviC" Of his friends "
. la, l., has Il frnp
Bril-. il il not vet certain whether tc will
venture 10 make n tour Of the upstate
districts. Mr.. Carlisle. after he had be-
come still more compliment said that Ed
ward VI Shepard of Brooklyn will speakin
different part. OF the State Mr. shepard :
ont. He will speak in Buffalo ext Saturday
however. in Har'f ri ON Tuesday n.It and
in Jersey ity next Wednesday
Mr.. Carlisle wu~ asked ii he wanted 10 say
anything about the voll"y the Republican
Canpaigners had frnd a. Mr. Hill. who A.
Governor had advocated the same legi,la-
ton for the lunaCy and charity institutions
Of the State as that which had been carried
out hv Gov Odol and the Republican
Legislature. oh, no, replied Mr.. Car
isle. you will have 20 ak Mr. Hill about
that
Frederick Cook 81 Rochester. who has
always been highly regarded by Mr.. Hill
a. a democratic possibility for Governor
was al the Hoffman House, and said
Il think things looi, pretty we'll up tho
State. but | never have been n bull in poll
tics Experience has mad" mo a bear. !
believe il l. better 10 think YOU have 10 do
a lot of work Ia order To win.
Mr.. Hlll~ itinerary in tho State ia az
follows: Tammanv Han and Manhattan
Club oct %: SCHENECTADY OCT %: Madison
SQUARE Garden. oct -. Buffalo. Nov. !
Some OF the Democratic campaignors dee
clared Yesterday that Gov pdcll would not
get more than 50o1o plurality above The
Bronx, and were quite convinced that tolcr
would have 0o,v1 in New York county,
20 900 in King and 800 in Richmond and
Queens.
A boom for John + Carroll Of New York
city for nitcd States Senator to succeed
senator Thomas {. Plat was started Mr..
Hill Is stated To hav" mad" such a propo-
sition fir, to Hugh Mclaughlin Of Brook
lvn, and Mr.. tarrolis friends said YESTERDAY
that if Mr. Mclaughlin was not a candidate.
and if the Legislature was Democratic on
Joint ballot, they would do everything
possible To- bring about Mr.. CAROLS ele-
walton to the senate.
A personal friend of Nr Hill said: -Colpr
is getting stronger every day. IL isn't
necessary to send him up the State 20 make
speeches The Democrats up there know
that he fought Mr. Croker and Mr.. Plat
or, rather they believe tina, he did, SO il
amounts 10 inst about the same The Re
pIbllCan party In hol'Ncolip'd WIN iac-
tional strife in almost everv count Y in tie
State. This j. part lCularly 80 in the Mohawk
vallov counties and in the western part of
the State I believe firmly that Gov. Odcll
will not come down TO The Bronx with more
than 6p,rD plurality
MIR Hill, YOU know. is playing his last
card. he has rskcd everything in nomnatin g
Mr. Culer ON that Government ownership
of-tho-cua-min's plank, and If he wins he
will be grca, man in the Democratic party.
II he loses his political career is at an end
and nobody knows this better than Mr. Hill
All talk of tn" Democrats nominating Mr..
Hill for PreSid"n, in 1904 Is nonsense.
Even if MIR Hill captured the nomination
he could not bc elected. and that is all there
il to il No. Mr. Hill is playing the great
game 10 elect Colcr and be- able to go into
the National Convention as the great Demo-
cratic master Of the State of New York in
1904, and have n powerful voice in naming
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