The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1902-06-07
anywhere else"
''Were you ever in 242 Fourth avenue

once ~
> "Did YOU have any ,information that
these men were running poker game at
any other place, than Sa7 Second avenue
So"
THAT they had big. mitt joints?'
"Don't know what a big mitt' Joint Is"
explained Norbeck ilnocently.
"Do you know Charley @AoWaru-Cheer-
fiji Charley?s .,;gI55 I.
81 have known him four years. Did not
know that he was a buneo 4steerer.. Il"
Norbeck did not recall that he knew
MCMILLAN or Atkins, but he knew Miller
and Holmberg;r knew that the former was
a gambler but not as steerer. He also
said that he did not know Fred Nelson.
and said that he had never been furnished
g. list of steerers for Edwards and Cross
man who were to be protected. -
Did you ever. go, to s27 Second avenue,
S with GardnerF r.r5-E-=:i- - .
~ never did ;-n. & .
''242 Fourth avenue So
mo, sir" rs- 3 .,fz-U '-.2" y
-"Did you, go to S27 Second avenue S
every day-and sometimes twice."
II never was there but once in my life.
The famous little brown satchel was
called up again.; The witness said it was
entrusted to him by Edwards. The satchel
contained some poker chips and deck
of cards AT the request OF Edwards,
witness left it in the candy store at 220
knew no more about it. 49,
Form of Questions Criticized.
The defense clashed with the court over
It's manner, of questioning the witness.
Erwin persisted in beginning his ques-
lions with the words, lit has been testi-
fed Judge Harrison informed Mr.. Err
win several times that, he could use the
words of former testimony in putting
questions to the witness but must not
state that it was the evidence.
Mr.. Erwin did not understand this or
else he formulated the questions In the
Objectionable language for the purpose of
saving his rights.
Finally Judge Harrison said
Mr.. Erwin, you are playing with the
court
Il am not playing with the court an
swered Mr. Erwin sharply.
Judge Harrison then explained how the
questions should be put and informed the
attorney that he must not use the words,
at has been testified" in any form what
ever. Mr.. Erwin said that there had been
a misunderstanding and changed his ques-
tions.
''Were you in 242 Fourth avenue, where
Edwards was conducting a poker game,
sitting down and watching them fleeing
q man out Of $3.50 and then laughing and
saying that you could not see how man
could be such a fool that?''
mo. sir. l never was there in my life.''
1925 check?"
mo, sir
Did you have anything to do with
sG15 check on the Second National bank
OF st. Paul?''
yes I did.
Tell what it was.
The witness then told of meeting De-
tectives Harvey and Hanson with man
who had been robbed of a check. He
went with the three up Nicollet avenue.
When they got as far as Sixth street he
pointed out one man whom he thought
looked like one of the men who had
fleeced him. This was Link Crossman.
The latter was told to get the check II
he knew anything about it.
The next morning Harvey came around
and said, by God, he's got to give the
check back" Later he met Link Cross
man and informed him that the check
must be found very soon or there would
be trouble. He met Edwards and Cross
man later and told them they would have
to give Up the check. They thought that
they could find the check if no one was
prosecuted. Norbeck said that the man
did not care to prosecute. Edwards then
produced. the check. At the first oppor-
tunity Norbeck gave the check to Harvey,
who restored it to the victim. He did
not want to appear and Norbeck had said
That's the way with all you fellows.
When you get your money back you never
want to prosecute ~ -
Witness knew absolutely nothing about
the cashing of the check and received no
reward or gratuity for the part he had
played in its restitution.
He recounted with circumstantial detail
what he had done with regard to the re-
covery of the Roman MEX draft for SITS.
Norbeck objected strenuously to MEX
compromising the matter with Attorney
LOOMS, he said that the whole sum
could be secured. He never received any
money out Of the Mick draft either. from
Attorney LOOMS, Edwards or any one
else.
The Grand Jury Incidents.
Witness then went over the incidents
preceding his appearance before the
grand jury. His movements in this mat
ter were quite fully recounted in his af-
fdavit. He talked several times with
Billy Edwards. The latter said that
they had evidence enough to impeach the
mayor and that they were going to indict
Chief Ames and Detectives Howard and
Morrissey. -
He had an interview in the Jail with
Billy Edwards in the presence Of Captain
Alexander and Link Crossman. Edwards
outlined his plans quite fully. He then
said to- the witness: 'If you back up our
story there will be no danger for YOU
Norbeck continued: ~ ':
- They said that they had everything
fixed the right way and would win. The
JSo6SoF
power behind this thing than behind tht
mayor. 1 said 1 thought so. said
would tell all I knew to the grand jury
and 1 did So, You won't have a chance
to be chief Of police, but YOU will be chic
Of detectives e.. .s- =
Here every one had little laugh
Edwards or others speaking said further
that If the county attorney did not d.
his duty, the grand. jury would employ 1ts
own attorney. The county attorney woulc
be summoned before the court and in
structed fully Tes" 81 80.
=, Edwards said that he would never &C
to the penitentiary as it had been fixed
for him. to get out easy, something like
sixty days in the workhouse.
COLONEL AaIEs ON THE RACK
The People. Who Heard Him Now
"rnderstand- Why" -.r
Colonel Fred w. Arnes, chief of police, yes,
terday afternoon told his version Of the Ed
wards arrest. by Officers Long and Zalusky
The chief said he had asked the officers Il
they had any charge to make against Ed
wards and that they had replied there was
none. gAmes had then ordered Edwards te
leave town and had told him card-playine
against the mayors orders. That the
witness said, was the only time he ever saw
Edwards outside of the courthouse.