The watchman and southron. [volume] (Sumter, S.C.) 1881-1930, 1902-03-26
ssnator FRYE and Speaker Rsndsr-
sen Of The U. S. Senate, and U.
5. House Of Representatives,
SNOW BY THE RECORD THAT
THEY GAVE OPINIONS
EXACTLY CONTRARY TO THOSE IN
PuTED TO THEM BY 'sIIh" TILL
From The State.


Post on Saturday last: -,
. An interesting correspondence mas
passed between Senator Frye ana
Lieut.. Gov. Tillman Of South Caro-
aaiina, the result of which may make
another chapter in the political his
tory Of Tillman's State.
Lieut.. Cav. Tillman, when a Dill
vas recently before the SoRth Caro-
Ina senate, decided that a mosion TO
Indefinitely postpone the consideration
of q certain bill was not debatable.
Tssue being taken with his decision,
he wired to Senate Frye for an expert
opinion. Mr.. Frye replied that al
though JeGerson's manual was silent
On The subject, the motion was de-
batable. When, however, Gov. 9ill-
nan later referred to the matter, he
asserted that Senator Frye had sustain
ed his position. A 6oubting South
Carolina editor thereupon wrote to
Sanator FRYE to know the facts, and
Mr.. FRYE answered that Gov. TiNman
had not quoted him correctly.
AT that point the matter rests. 1t
IS expected that the South Carolina
editor will make Senator Frye's letter
Dublic. and then it will be up to Gov.
TilIman to explain.
Ne were preparing to have the docu-
nnents IN the case engraved in fac
smile for reproduction, but as the
matter has leaked out IN Washington.
apparently through the president OF
the United States senate, we shall not
further delay publication OF the evl-
dence We have in hand.
This evidence proves that Lleuten-
ant Governor James II. Tillman delib-
erately and formally spread upon the
Journal of the senate of South Caro-
lima a statement he knew to be false,
such statement being made. for the
purpose of deceiving the senate on an
important question touching the rules
OF that body.
The chain Of evidence is complete
and cannot be broken.
EXHIBIT a.
SENATE, report, The State, February
4, 1902.
Mr. Kibler's bill to make turkeys.
geese, ducks and guineas subject to
the stock law was reported fayorably
with q committee amendment s5rlk-
ing out the particular birds and plac-
ing them all under the general deslg-
nation of " domestic fowls'' which
would also include chickens. Senator
Caughman moved to strike out the
enacting words and demanded the ayes
and noes, the result being the adop-
tion of the bill by vote of 4 to II.
The motion was made to reject the
committee amendment, but this was
rejected by II to TO- Senator Gray
don then moved to Indefinitely post
oone the bill. The chair decided that
such motion was not debatable, and
he moved to commit the bill. This
was also ruled out of order. Senator
Appelt moved to postpone it until
Thursday, sbut this was laid on the
table. The opponents of the bill died
hard, but the majority was against
them at every turn.
EXHIBIT B.
Senate report, The State, February
5, 1902.
When Mr.. Kibler's bill to make
domestic fowls subject to the pro-
visions of the general stock law was
reached Senator Henderson moved to
indefinitely postpone the bill. e .
Senator Graydon also wanted the
bill killed, in the interest Of the pros
perity of the State. x
At this point a rather sensational
episode occurred. Senator Sheppard
had been presiding when the debate
on the question started. Lieutenant
Governor Tillman came back to the
chair while Senator Graydon was
Speaking, and after taking the gavel
interrupted Mr.. Graydon and stated
that he was out of order, under rule
a. and (on) the ground that motion
TO indefinitely postpone is not debat-
able.
Senator Graydon replied that his un-
derstanding Of the rule was very clear
and that he would appeal to the SEN
ate. Lieutenant Governor Tillman
began to state the question of the
appeal, when Senator Barnwell asked
to make a statement. He SAID that
the rule used to be that a motion to
indefinitely postpone was not
debatable, but that his rec
affection was that at the
last session an amendment had been
adopted allowing such motion to be
debated. AS matter of fact these
motions have been debated in the SEN
ate for many years, by common con-
sent.
Lieutenant Governor Tillman here
ruled Senator Barnweli out Of order,
on the ground that he was debating a
motion that had been ruled out OF
Senator Barnwell then asked and
obtained unanimous consent to address
the senate. He then suggested that
Senator Graydon withdraw his appeal
and refer the question TO the commit
tee on rules. It is always unpleasant
to appeal from the chair, and he hoped
Senator Graydon would withdaw the
Senator Graydon accepted the sug-
gestion, and asked to withdraw his
lieutenant Governor Tillman stated
that he much preferred the appeal
shouId be voted on by the senate, and