Akron daily Democrat. [volume] (Akron, Ohio) 1892-1902, 1902-03-01

debate itself, which we take rom the
Congressional Record:
Mr.. I'illman-But with all Mr.
Bryan's influence-and it was very
great, because It was recognized then
that he would he the nominee of his
party-hc did not and could not per-
suade enough mon here TO give the
whom Mr.. Bryan could influence had
been influenced and counted you still
lacked votes, and you knew it. You
know how you got them.
Mr.. Spooner--How did we get them?
Mr.. Tillman-I say you know how
you got them.
Mr.. Spooner-T do not know how we
got them. ] do not know that any
man voted for that treaty except in
obedience to his convictions. Does
the Senator know any different?
Mr.. TillmanI only know that in a
court tie Senator would convict on cir
cumstancial evidence some men.
Mr.. Spooner--Does the Senator i'm
peach any Senator? Let him name
him. do not impench any Senator,
nor do ] know any ground for i'm
peaching any.
Mr.. Tillman-~I have reason TO he.
lleve from the circumstantial evidence
and from things that have been told
to me in confidence by men on the
other side that improper influences
were used.
Mr.. Spooner-- Name the man. That
is due to the country, and due TO the
| man whom you suspect, and by in
uendo charge. Who was it? Let him
answer for himself If he is still a mem
| Der of this body.
| Mr.. Tillman-Whom do you mean!
| ! cannot name the man who gave me
the information.
Mr.. Spooncr- Whoever you mean.
Mr.. Tillman--I cannot give the name
tion because he gave it to me- in con
fidencc
| Mr.. Spoouer-Oh, in confidence. \
man who would impeach another in
confidence Is a coward. (Applause in
the galleries.)
Mr.. Tillman--C -Cowardice in that case
does not rest on NY shoulders.
Mr.. Spooner.-The Senator turned to
me. If the Senator knows OF any
member of this body who voted under
corrupt influences for that treaty,
name him.
Mr. Tlllman-l cannot prove it.
Mr.. Spooner-Well, | would not say
it,
Mr.. Tillman-But | can prove this
Mr.. Spooncr--I would not say it,
Mr.. Tillman-I can prove this: That
the patronage of n State has been
given to Il Democrat who voted for
The treaty.
Mr.. Spooner--What State?
Mr. Tlllman--S South Carolina.
Mr.. Spooner--Fight it out with your
colleague.
Mr.. Tillman--I am ready.
Mr.. Spooner-Yes, / am ready and
he is ready,
Mr.. 1illman-Let him
Mr.. Tillman--He has not shown his
readiness.
Mr.. Spooner-But he will be.
The president pro tempore-The oc,
cupants OF the galleries must remem
ber that any marks of appreciation OF
disapproval are not permitted under
the rules of the Senate, and If there is
n violation OF the rule the chair will
be obliged to have the galleries
cleared.
Mr., Tlllman~-l will state that after
having made speech in this body two
weeks before, replete with cogcnt
arguments and cloquencc, against tn,
ratification of the treaty, and aftel
having told us in confidence that h,
would not vote for ii, he did: nnt
since then he has been adopted b,
the Republican caucus and put upoI
committees ms a member of tha
J party, and has controlled the patron
age in South Carolina. | did not OK
pect to bring this in in this way, bu
| do not dodge or finch from any
responsibility anywhere. simply
know what believe
Mr. Spooner--You simply believ,
what you 40 not know.
Mr. Tlllman--And have been told
as | told you, In confidence by men OF
that side, of the transaction.
1t will be remembered that Me
Lnurin was not In the Senate cham
ber during any part of this colloquy
So he was not angered by anything h,
himself heard his colleague utter; 4
was told him by others. And lie wal
in commlttee-room conveniently neaI
by, whence he could he called wher
the debate should come up TO th,
point he thought necessary to justify
him in calling his fellow Senator {
liar. II viii he seen that Senator
Spooner badgcred and baited Tillmai
till he got him to name his man
Again and again, the latter, while as
scrtlng his own belief of the corrup
conduct of some member of the Sen
ate, shrHnk from calling him by name
because, as he said, he had no proc
of his guilt except circumstances an,