The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1902-05-22
ARGUE ABOUT BULLETS.
Corporal and General Dispute Con-
corning Ammunition.


Washington, May 2L-Before the SEN
ate investigating committee today Cor
poral O'Buen exhibited some cartridges
which he said contained the dum-dum
bullets to which he had referred yester-
day as having been used ia the Philip
pines by American soldiers.
General Crozier said that the cartridges
presented by O'Brien were not different
from the ordinary regulation cartridges.
Asked If they were 'dum-dum or ex-
plosive bullets, the witness replied IN the
negative.
They are perfectly normal bullets" he
said. The regulation krag-J OrEensen
bullet. he said. often has practically the
bullet
O'Brien then was questioned by sena-
tor BeVeridge, who requested the witness
to go into minute details respecting his
charge that a number Of American Of
ftcers had violated the person Of a Span
lsh woman at the time the town of Ig-
! baras was burned.
Questions by the senator brought out
the fact that there were then Just four
American officers III the town Of Ig-
baraG.
Consequently" said the senator. sqf
the statements made by the womans
husband are true these four men are
guilty of the crime charged
The witness aSsented TO this inference.
! He gave the names Of two privates as
him the story. When the names had been
given, Senator Patterson protested say
ing that TO compel the witness to men
( ton them under the circumstances and
In view Of his protest was a grave in
/ justice to the men whose names had thus
I been dragged in.
Senator Lodge retorted that he believed
that instead Of doing injustice the COM
mittee was on the road to doing Justice.
This statement caused Senator Patter-
son 70 say, with evident appearance OF
warmth. that the attitude of Senator
Lodge had been that Of menace toward
the witness ever since he had taken the
stand.
my attitude. responded senator
/ Lodge, 'has not been any more that ~
menace Of the witness than your atti-
tude has been that of defense Of him.
1r. PattersOn-l deny the imputatiOn.
Mr. LOdge-And deny that I have in
any way attempted to menace the wit
nes-.
Senator DIETRICH charged Senator Pat
terSOn with having done all that he
could to injure the army. and with hav-
ing done nothing to protect and preserve
its good name.
Mr.. Patterson resented this statement
sharply and angrily.
The senator from Nebraska" he said.
| should be ashamed Of himself. He knows
! that the truth is exactly contrary with
what he has stated. and that what ne has
said is positively untrue"
Senator Dietrich know that what
! have said is true, and L repeat that the
senator's efforts have been to bring out
everything he could against the army
Senator PattersOn-Ihe senator should
be ashamed to make such a statement.
No man is more anxious than I am TO
present the army in as true a light and
| develop what good that may be said Of
II. I have not hesitated in my course in
that respect
Replying, Senator Dietrich said he de-
Iled the colorado senator TO prove the
( truth Of his remarks, 10 which Mr.. Pat
tersOn replied that the minority had
made an honest and faithful effort To get
at facts, and that he was convinced the
present intention was to divert il from
that course. In this connection he de-
CiaTed that no gentleman would make
such a statement as had been made
Senator Dietrich closed this phase OF
the controversy by saying that a gentle
man engaged in such an inquiry as this
would try to bring out things in the inter
est of the army rather than matters OF
a contrary character.
Returning to the question Of the treat
ment of the Igbaras woman. Senator
Beverage asked the witness If he be-
lieved that the officers did violate her
person. Several Of the minority senator's
objected, and the witness at first said he
did not wish to commit himself on that
point, but he ultimately said that such
was his belief. He also expressed the
opinion that the statement that the en-
listed men had subsequently nistreated
her was true
With this statement OBrien's testi-
mOny closed. and Mr.. Patterson rose and
made a formal statement to the effect
that he ana Senator RaWlins had both
protested against the Introduction OF
hearsay evidence alleging maltreatment
of woman by American officers, and
read the report Of Witness O'Brien's first
examination in confirmation of his state
ment.
MY feeling and that Of the minority
is" said he, that the dignity OF Amer
lean Officers and soldiers should not be
impugned by the Introduction of such
testimony and I want to say that any
thing which has followed the first state
ments made by the witness has been
dragged in by the majority
Senator Beveridge replied that there
was no desire 10 connect the minority Of
the committee with the statements Of the
witness He added that the mans first
ALLEGATIONS had gone TO the country, and
that ne deemed il only just that the
charges should be thoroughly probed.