The Birmingham age-herald., 1902-06-29
Admiral and Senator Carmack Have Another Lively Tit
 at Repartee
SAYS AGU|NALDO BECAME
 VERY SUDDENLY RICH
Had Nothing When He Landed at Manila, But Later Lived at Ma Iolos Like a Prince-Took
 Every Dollar In Sight.

Washington, June 2s-The third days testimony given by Admiral Dewey before the Senate committee on the Philippines began with a reference to the state ment made by the admiral at the first days proceeding concerning the proffer made by the Spanish governor general to surrender to him.
 Senator Carmack called attention to the fact that the press reports made 1t appear that he had said that during the next twenty-four hours after the destruc- ton of the Spanish fleet on May 1 there had been several proffers of surrender on the part of the governor.
 The admiral replied that he had said that between May 1 and August 13 the governor general had sent word to him to surrender to the navy. The first proffer he said was made in May, through the English consul, and subsequently, proffers were made through the Belgian consul. At the tme, the admiral admitted, Aguinaldo had begun operations around Manila and was working towards the city. Taking up the thread of the investiga- ton where it was dropped yesterday Sem ator Carmack asked the witness if all the trouble in the Philippines had been due to Aguinaldo. T won't say that, the admiral replied But" he continued, 'T will repeat that if we had had 5000 troops at Manila on May 1 the city could have been taken possession of. and we would have had at least for the time, no trouble with the ratiyes. They were cur friends then
 Too Much About AguinaIdo.
 In reply to other questions put by Sena- tor Carmack concerning Aguinaldo the admiral said:
 T think you are making too much of Aguinaldo. He was mere hgurehead and was surrounded by stronger men than himself. Mabini was one of these end General Luna, whom he had killed was another"
 Replying to another question, the ad . was another.'
 miral said 1t was the general report throughout the East that In 1897 Agui- naldo had betrayed his people to the Spaniards for money. Nor did he remem- Der that this report had been denied by American officers in the Philippines Another officer quoted in this connection was General Greene, and the admiral called attention to the fact that General Gre had not given his authority
 "If he said. 'Agoncillo told him, I don't think the authority was good.
 "Why do you say that Aguinaldo took the lions share of the property gathered by the insurgents?"
 Lived Like a Prince.
 Because he was living at Malolos like a prince. He had nothing when he land ed at Manila, and he could have procured the means for this ostentation in no other way. He began immediately after arriv- ing to take every dollar in sight It nay be ungrateful in me to state the fact but it Is true that he sent cattle to me herds of them-for the ships. The stock was taken from the Philippine people.
 Was any statement made of this cir cumstance at the timer
 NO, that is war, as you know"
 Continuing his reply to this question the admir- al said the Philippine army was then only a mob and without organiza- ton and had to be fed and clothed.
 ''He did as many have done-he made the country support him.
 Did you regard that proceeding as pill lage and loot?"
 Well. we did not do that way. For
  I paid for it."
 Senator Patterson-'Do you refer to Aguinaldo taxing property for the sup mort of the army That is one anna port of the army as loot and pillage?"
 Admiral Dewey-"That Is one part of it."
 Senator carmack-"You did not object at that time?"
 Got Beyond Dewey.
 Admiral Dewey-"No, but he soon got beyond me-"
 A number of questions were asked in regard to statements made by Generals Greene, Bell and others, but the witness asked. to be excused from criticising ofn- cers of the army and the chair (Senator Beveridge) said that he was not required to answer. any questions the replies to which would involve such criticism. Thereupon the admiral said he was very glad" and Senator Carmack said he knew of no such rule. but he supposed he would have to submit. The admiral added that no opinions of others would change his opinion of Aguinaldo.
 Senator Carmack-"Then Is 1t a fact that you took man to Manila to be leader of the native people who had but recently betrayed these people Tor bribe?'
 Admiral Dewey-'I think that would have made no difference, as the country was under a reign of terror"
 linen you wanted man who could organize the nativesf
 No. I didn't want any one. Aguinaldo and his people were forced upon me by Consul Pratt and others
 Did the consul and others have any power to force these people on you?"
 "Yes, by constant pressure. l didn't want the Filipino refugees because I did not believe that a half dozen of them would do any good in view of the report that thousands would rise up In insur- rection on our arrival at Manila. thought they would play very small part"
 Declines to Answer.
 linen you placed the country at the mercy of a man who would plunder and rob notwithstanding you had no need of his services?'
 This question the admiral declined to
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