Wood County reporter. [volume] (Grand Rapids [i.e. Wisconsin Rapids], Wis.) 1857-1923, 1902-06-12
TESTIMONY
Father Jungblud's Testimony in his own Be-
half, in the Case of State of Wisconsin
VS.. Chas. Iungbud and Lizzie
Nolan.
CONTINUED FROM LAST WEEK

already testified that she adnltled
having lied. | do not care to
carry it any farther than to ask If
that is the time he meant, when
she was at confession? No Sir,
that is not the time / meant.
What, if anything, induced her to
admit to you, that she had lied at
times, if you know? lido not
know. You say it was not at the
end Of a, whipping, or during
whipping that she would admit it?
No sir, 1t was at times when you
were not whipping her, when you
were kind to her, wasn't it, that
she would admit having done
wrong? That she admitted to
have lied, yes. Now why, when
you found that that was the situa-
ton, that she would admit having
done wrong when you were kind
to her, why did you go on beating
her? Why did | what? Why
did you go on beating her, | say,
if you found that that did not do
any good, that she did not admit
having done wrong, at those times?
Why | did not beat her except
when | thought that she deserved
it, and it was necessary Weren't
you usually angry wheR you were
beating her? No. You were
sometimes? | was one time in
particular. You were so angry
you did not really know what you
were doing, weren't you, when you
beat her that last time? I do not
think | was so angry, no. After
you had whipped her as you say
you did, did you look her over to
see what damage you had done to
her? No. Did you care what
damage you had done to her? l
gave the matter no thought. |
thought that there was no damage
done. Were you present at any
time when she was whipped by
yourself or Lizzie when she was
whipped because she could not
button up her clothes? No. You
did not know about anything of
that kind2 No. You never we're
present when she had some trouble
in buttoning up her clothes be-
cause her hands were SO sore, were
you? | was present when she
would not button up her clothes,
yes. Yes, and what happened
when she would not button up her
clothes? She was sent in the
room to button them up. Who
was sent in with her? Nobody.
Did she button them up? Some
times she did, and sometimes she
did not. Did she the last time
that you remember of her having
been sent in to button her clothes?
| do not remember Didn't you
know at that time her hands we're
SO sore she could not button her
clothes? Nc, | did not. Up to
the time that you beat her on the
third day Of October, you had not
succeeded i'll breaking her of any
Of these habits, had you? No SIT.
She was just as bad as when she
came there, wasn't she? | could
not see much difference. And if
you learned that from that time on,
when she was treated kindly, she
was a good girl, did not lie, and
was not stubborn, what would you
think as to the necessity of your
having beaten her so? Objected
to as improper, incompetent, irrele-
want, and immaterial. Objection
ovcr-ruled and an exception taken.
| do not understand the question,
please. Question Repeated. If
from, that time on, she had been
good, | would have thought that
the beating had cured her. You
would have thought that the last
beating cured her/ | would have
thought that, II that occurred.
Now 40 yJu think that any OF
these times, that you were al all
: arbitrary when you had charge of
her? No sir. You do not think
YOU asked her to DO any unreason-
able things? No sir. Did she
sometimes tell lies about you, CT
what you claimed were lies? Not
IL me. Did you learn that She
hsti TOLD someone els what YOU
claimed were lies about you? No
sir. Did you learn that She had
told what you claimed to be lies
about Lizzie? No sir. You never
whipped her for lying about You
or Lizzie, did you? NO sir, Did
you do most of this teaching, or
did Lizzie do it? Lizzie did most
of it. Is Lizzie someone who has
an education so she is able to
teach ordinary pupils? She can
teach the lower branches, | think.
DO you know what schooling, she
has had? do not exactly, no.
low loug have you kuown Lizzie?
| nave known her for, IL years.
Has she lived in the same house