The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1902-02-09

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person referred to, yet, as I am a NOM
Si1sr OF the Council, and one OF the few
,nwyers there, L decided for my own in
formation to ascertain to whom he re-
tered.
{ i learned that I.was the person, and
,lle time sswa S when II budget of several
sears ago was. passed by the Common
Council. 49,
I subsequently asked Mr.. &. T. August,
the City Clerk, to examine the minutes
Of the Common Council to see If si:u t
motion had been made, and if SO, by
whom.
He made an examination in my pres
cncc: but could find no such motion.
The impressionI had ct the time was
that it was claimed thatthc motion was
made about two years ago.
TO be- certain to cover the time, Mr..
Augustus examination covered the last
four years.
I then left Mr.. Augustus office, and
when 1 got into the hall saw Mr. Nc
Carthy coming out of his office.
l stopped him and spoke TO him OF
several matters, one being of the $4,000
transfer. He told me that I was the
person to whom he referred about the
transfer.
INSISTED IT WAS A MISTAKE.
I insisted that he was mistaken usirg
practically the language he says, in his
dictated interview, that I used. and say
ing, in addition. that about that time
1 was saturated with his views about
the Sinking Fund, and that an eXamina-
ton of the minutes ofsthe Common Coun-
eli failed to disclose such q motion.
He replied that Ire knew he was right,
but that he would examine the records,
and Il he found that he was wrong that
;-1le was man enough to confess his error.
He then added that he had not attacked
me in his Academy speech because he
| had not mentioned my name, and had
only mentioned the incident to illustrate
the point flesWas making at the time.
We then separated, until 1 called at his
Office in company with q gentleman who
had made an appointment with him about
and myself.
After discussing that and another mat
ter. the gentleman left.
Remembering that Nj. Mccarthy had
promised to look up the record for mo
about the $4,000 transfer. asked him IL
he had done so. He replied that he
had. and then Went with me across the
han and Showed mo the records, which
! went back beyond the time during ~hich
Mr. August and L had looked.
READ THE RECORD
read the record and found that the
| budget for 1857 passed by the Common
| Council carried the usual amount s&or the
| Sinking Fund, and that there vas u scpa-
rate.item of coo for balance due Sink
| ing F ind for 1896; that the Board OF
| Aldermen had refused to concur in the
budget, and that a conference committee
I had been appointed. that when this com
n,ittee met Que! of its members had moved
! to reduce the $1,000 to S50.oo0. and that
! 4 had moved to make it 0,00n, which
motion was adopted
The records ulso showed that the state
ments made III Mr. AIcCarthE's dictated
J interview. were true.
I then said to Nh. .alcCartny, IN the
t presence Of Mr.. August, that the re-
| cores verified his statement as to them
| hut. tlat.I could notsreconcile my actor
| with asresolution which I had offered IT
the meeting of the Board of Sinking F1Ino
! Commissioners within less than a month
| after the conference budget was passed
stated to him the purport OF the reso-
Isuticn.wy hicli was a demand on the city
| tor the $1,000 1856 balance 81;
! Mr. August imnlediatel said that lie
rendered allsaboue it, and that It was
plain t % him. sf 81
NH. laIGARTHYss;E xPIsANA;T1oN.
His explanation was that the budget
was; tied up, and the wheels OF he city
government ctically stopped, that
knew that tless s10 GOO had TO be paid &c
the Sinking Fund, notWi outstanding It's
|sonlssfoil from the huds t. and that as an
evidence OF q II isaS fact - had made the
motion IN The meeting Of the Sink 'llnd
/ Count isoner inSs the pa ,nent Of
sall 10 tfle s. 6al altce WITH teresE