Delaware gazette and state journal. (Wilmington, Del.) 1883-1902, 1902-01-30

ment: In the beginning of that,
while ! did not know anything about
it, one evening Mr.. J. d. Carter and
myself were walking along King street.
1t was dark. ] met Mr.. Carter some
place between my house and Tenth and
King. Right at this side of Tenth
street we heard, rs passing along, a
person say. Hello, there; how are
your | looked around, and it was
Harvey Vandegrift. He said. Hold
on until | make you acquainted with
friend of NINE He introduced me to
man by the name of Dillon. | in
PRODUCED Mr.. Carter. OF course, we
accepted the introduction, merely
passed the time of day or something of
that kind, and passed on, | did not
know that this man was policy man
or anything about it. So some time
after that Mr.. Martin called at my
house when | was home to lunch. He
came to see me for q moment | in
vited him in, and he says: These
people want to know if you can do a
little better than that. They do not
think that the thing is just square,
and would like to know if you can not
do little better and the amount.
did not say anything TO him for a
minute. | said: Mr.. Martin. if you
will be kind enough to tell me what
you are talking about, | will answer
you. He was surprised. and then he
informed me there were two men stop
ping at the Hotel Wilmington, and
that Harvey Vandegrift had been with
them lie told me that he was par
ticular friend of mine and that he had
been arranging between himself and
myself for these men for policy, and
he had several conversations; had
converse tions over the phone with me,
SO he said, and he told them that he
would have TO give me SO much money
| at that time or the whole affair would
| be called off. | think the amount was
$500. y
"Who was TO receive the 5o00?"
He was trying TO get $500 to say |
| wanted ii. "
He was Speaking to whom over the
| telephonef"
:" lie said he was talking to me. -
| In the preSencA of theSn mem"
THAT was my understanding. | told
| Mr. Martin that was the first had
| heard OF it. | did not know that the
men were here. He says: They do
not like the way he was treating them,
SO that they were going to leave.
| do not like TO be quoted in that way
and said would like to square my
self with them or anybody else.
| would like to tell them, if | could,
that ! don't know anything about the
transaction that they may have had
with Mr.. Eandegrift. He said: They
are going away this afternoon. | said
| | would like to see them if | could,
but, | says, am going away myself
! about that time. | had to 60 to Phila-
delphia about some reports. So he
said he would go to Philadelphia and
would arrange it so that | could SEE
them So went to Philadelphia that
afternoon. =
with MARTINI
''No, | met him in Philadelphia, anC
he took me, | think, TO the Hanover
House, at Twelfth and Arch, there tC
meet these men, Mr.. Dillon and a mar
named MCGOWAN; | never seen hin
before. They related to me the trans
action, and told them it was the first
| had heard of it when Mr.. Martin
made the statement to me, and
wanted them to understand that
knew nothing about it, II was ther
that they made the proposition. -
what propositions
"If they could get in here, they
would pay $500 and percentage
did not pay much attention, because
told them chat NO man could get pro
lection here. Any man who would at
tempt to get protection would certainl,
he crazy and while told them | die
not like man to make arrangement,
between other people for me, / said 8
want TO say to you that am honest il
this thing, and would not give yol
nor anybody else protection, because
could not. | never have received {
penny nor do expect to. Twill also sa,
that any person going there to engag
in that or any other business viii
certainly prosecute They thanked mi
for what had told them. y
Chief Massey said that he had neve
seen the men since. At this session
Chief Massey was cross examined b,
Commissioner Clarkson. He insisted
that the only report which he remeIn
bered receiving concerning policy, wa
the Tucker report, which has beei
spoken OF. Ho did not mean to init
mate that any of the men had toll
what vas untrue, but he had not re
ceived the reports. He did not remem
Der seeing the names Of policy men
: WH1tu ~ Wis ltbbilltt lttu DteIl SeIlO Ill
Mr.. Clarkson asked:
Didn't | tell you your reputatio
was ut stake?''
"Thnt was late in the spring.
"'That was February or March. -
! 1T was about the time that it wa
! broken up. "
, THAT was before the raid?"
''Yes, sir -
, 81 told you the reputation of thi
1 department. was at stake?"
i eyes, sir or words to that effect.
"Now, then, did you suppose that
{ would have been impressed that way
! if had not thought, as everybody ha
/ reason to believe, that the town wa
, practically wide open?"
. Now in regard to that period, thu
! would be carried to you, you being
I this position, more so than if you wei
1 | not. /"
, This thing had been going on
!, the newspapers before people came
! me. AS soon as | heard it / came
4 you. Somebody told me in my offic
came over here and asked you abol
4 it. You remember me coming here?
. eyes,
{ "The latter part of January?''
: 81 could not say when it was.
1.-THE latter part of January strik,
: me?,
S II don't remember; / don't kno
G when it was You came and spoke
G me about the Gibson House and to-
: me that they were writing policy Their,
/ and to this day | have never learne
r that they did write there. 2
/ II told you they were writing a
o over town. said the thing wont d
You always said to me that you hi
/ heard Of it and the rumors, but tn,