Atlanta semi-weekly journal. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1898-1920, 1902-06-02
CARMACK IS KISSED
IN THE i. s. SENATE
Senator From Tennessee
Gives Utterance to
Sarcastic Remark
About Army.

WASHINGTON. May sl.-Hissing in the
senate Is 50 unusual that when Il occurred
fn-the course OF the Philippine debate to-
day Il created a sensation. Mr.. SpOoner,
Of Wisconsin. was speaking and referred
Incidentally, 70 the story that thousand
people had been put 10 death by Ameri-
can troops in trenches which they were
compelled to dig.
AR. Lodge, OF Massachusetts,. said the
story had been denied by the father OF
the soldier who had started Il. and that
the war. department had cabled 10 Gen
erai Chaffee TO ascertain the facts.
Mr. Carmack. Of Tennessee. Interrupt
ted 70 say that no doubt the soldier would
deny the story as all soldiers In the
Philippines had been required 10 do.
His remark was greeted with kissing
from the galleries. the demonstration OF
disappr0bation calling out a sharp rapping
OF the gayel from the chair.
Nr. Spo0ner occupied nearly four hours
Of today's session In concluding his
speech begun on Thursday. His elcquence
attracted the attention OF all senators
and hundreds OF occupants OF the crowded
mission OF the Philippines 10 the union as
states. but IN the conduct OF the islands
nothing savoring OF imperialism had been
suggested except for party purposes.
II have not been In favor Of permanent
dominion over the Philippines" said Mr..
Spooner. ~but I don't mean BY that that
have been In favor OF the United States
running away like a coward or abandon
Ing a-people who have come under our
protection OF surrendering them to tyr
amy. anarchy or chaOs.N
Mr.. Spooner declared that there was
little or no similarity between the condi-
lions in Cuba and those IN the Philip
pines
Those senators" he insisted. who
cannot see the difference between the
Philippines and Cuba have some sort OF
II congress had recognized the indie
-pendence- OF the Filipinos." said he, in
stead cf being there as we are now with
title that the supreme court OF the Uni
ted States says Is complete. which the
senate has accepted as complete. which
gives Us the power 70 do what Is generous
and noble and right and uplifting 10 that
people. we would be there on the shift
ing sands OF contract with a former
tyrant. l think that God has saved US
from that unutterahle folly
Later Mr.. HOar inquired II the inhabi-
tants Of the Philippines were not a people
where there were millions OF men. acting
tcgether. who raised an army. selected
general. turned Spain out OF ali terri
who had agreed upon a constitution
They would be a people" replied Ar.
knccneEs .1f thaf Kare krHe. ......
It Is tue" said Mr. Hoar.
e deny st. insisted Mr. Spoouer. Il
deny that there Is any more than super
fetal truth IN H."
Bandits and cutthroats.
He referred to the Filipino army as a
collection OF miscellaneous persons who
now constituted bands OF bandits and cut
threats.
Mr.. spooner said AguinaIdo had "a gov
erument Of prOclamatiOns OF confsca-
lions. and assassinations; and the evi-
dence all shows It."
Mr.. Spooner quoted from a diary to show
that Aguinaldo had said that once the in
dependence OF the Philippines was declar-
ed he (AguinaldO( and his friends would
take trip 70 Europe with an allowance
OF N.oo0.ooo for expenses. afr. Spooner re-
ferred TO the last presidential campaign
and the candidacy OF Mr.. Bryan and TO
the assertions OF the Filipino leaders that
the success OF the Democracy meant the
Independence OF the Philippines, and then
after saying that the Americans had pass
ed upon the Philippine question at the
polls added:
You cannot charge upon the ratiica-
ton OF the treaty. nor upon the sending OF
our army 10 the Philippines all the blood
shed or all the erVelties that came to that
army"
Referring 10 General Smiths order for
the killing OF al Inhabitants OF Samar
above 10 years OF age. Mr.. Spooner quoted
the witticfsm that the pilgrims. on landing
first fell upon their knees and then upon
the Indians. He read from a statute OF
Massachusetts,. OF 1722. offering a reward
OF 900 for every male Indian scalp. u
scalp Of those killed I'm battle.
Mr. Hoar interrupted to say that the
Puritans had bought and paid for every
foot OF land acquired from the Indians and
that the statute OF ia was cruel and
barbarous.'
do you approve OF IT," he demanded.
when at the beginning OF the Twentieth
century you make It a precedent"
Bought Lands and scaIPs.
II think" said Mr.. spooner. that our
fathers bought the lands OF the Indians
in Massachusetts, aud then proceeded TO
buy their scalps."
Il viii agree" retorted Mr.. Hoar. that
this policy which the senator defends in
the Philippines is well supported by all
the wicked precedents which can be found
in the lives OF good men" 0aughter).
Senators" declared Mr.. SpoOner. who
denounce our policy In the Philippines in
general language on eN-parte teSumOy
ought not 20 forget that our forebears
C5rave men IN war; also found IL neces-
sary 70 resort IN war TO what. in time OF
peace no man on earth would approve"
Does the senator approve OF that or
der demanded Mr.. Hoar. Sin war or in
peace7"
II IL were necessary" suggested Mr..
6pooner. ito make the order In Massa-
chusetts so that the pilgrim might protect
his home from destruction. his wife from
debauchery and his children from cruelty.
] would have done what he had done.
What does the senator say2'
1T never was necessary to do it, Mr..
Hoar declared 1T was base and wicked
order. and when the senator talks Of for
bears / am happy 20 say that the man OF
that generation who bore my name incur
red obliquy and indignities through re-
sisting things then as I do now ZAP
plause-)
Mr.. Spooner said TO Mr. Hoar that II he
did not believe his party was right and
could not act with them, he would vote
for the other party.
This ELECTED quite long reply from Mr..
Hoar. who said he did not believe the
Democratic party was right in their view
OF the question. He believed that the Re
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