Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1902-10-24

not less than twelve months Now vo,,
might argue with me from this hour 10
aoomsday that the execution OF that law
just as 1T stands would not reduce lewd.
ness an TINS City. You put man in Jail
iof Twelve months for such an offense as
that, or YOU put a woman in Jail for
Twelve months for keeping house Of III
fame. and IL she don't quit the ranch. or
abandon her trade. rather than run the
r4sk or having the punishment inflicted
again, she is unlike any woman I ever
saw.
Inc men that made these laws were not
fools: they Were men who understood hu-
man nature; and that law stands there as
an expression OF the Judgment and the
conscience and the citizenship of the
State OF Virginia. In their judgment It
VIII reduce this crime to enforce such
law, to subject transgressors of it 10
such punishment. Will this board as
sumo. and will the Police Department Of
Richmond assume, that those men were
unWise who enacted that statute and
that nothing will be accomplished In re-
oucing lewdness in this city by the exc
cuton of that statute? In the first place,
1t Is an assumption upon the part of the
Police Department that is utterly unwar-
ranted
Now Mr.. President after having made
coed TO prove, with the witnesses I shall
introduce. that the Police Department Of
the city Of Richmond has not conformed
to these statutes, and the first witness
that ] wish to introduce is Major Howard,
the chief OF police.
Major Howard: Mr.. President, I think
as l have been made defendant in this
| matter, l ought not to be put on the
stand: nc ought TO get somebody else.
Mr.. Boshcr: I wish to suggest to DR..
! Hawthorne that he call Justice Crutch
field, as he is suffering considerably.
DR.. Hawthorne: It would defeat my
plan of procedure to do that.
Mr.. WEIGH: Mr.. President. before we
proceed. I wish Mr.. Bos!ler would read
what DR.. Hawthorne is summoned hero
for.
Mr. Bosher: At the last meeting stat
ed to DR.. Hawthorne that he was sum-
rloned as witness before this board to
tell US something about the statements
he had made in his sermon, and he prom
! Used he would prove these things this
evening.
DR.. Hawthorne: I am going to do it.
| Mr.. Bosher: The first thing that was
! asked him was about the seventy bar
rooms being open on that Sunday, and
/ asked him whether it was the Sunday
he was prea ching, or the Sunday previous.
Dr. Hawthorne: I am going to cover
| the whole matter contained in that ser
mon. if you will Just allow me to pro-
coed.
Mr.. Bosher: I would just say that is
what the board has been called for, and
| you promised to prove that this evening.
| Mr. Jacobs: We nave talked over a
| little matter OF DR.. Hawthorne's that is
not of much Importance. but still the
! statement had been made and I think we
| had better correct that at the start In
! that sermon YOU said that the sum Of
! S1J0.000 was appropriated i'll this city for
| the maintenance of the Police Depart
| ment.
/ Dr. Hawthorne: I will get to that
l don't want to be side-tracked on any
| thing of that sort right now.
/ Mr.. Jacobs: That is just preliminary
| thing and l would like TO get it out of
| the way.
Dr. Hawthorne: I trust the board will
| allow me to proceed. L will set to that
! after a while. We are simply wasting
! time now in the discussion OF those
| questions
made statements here in regard to the
number of lewd houses in this city, and
| that they were not interfered with, eN-
! cept. perhaps in some few cases, where
! people in the community where they
| existed rose up and demanded their re-
| moval am ready to prove those state
! Police who has made them before COM
mittee of the City Council appointed to
! report on the Minor CD resolution for the
suppression of these houses of i'll fame;
| he has made to that committee the iden-
| teal statement l want TO make here.
| l am not prosecuting Major Howard.
/ suppose if any are guilty, the rest OF Us
| are just as guilty as he. we nave all
! been acting under wrong impressions.
| hat 1ltv
prosecuting anybody, but I want to make
! good the statements / made in my ser
| mon that the laws have not been exc
! cuted
! Major Howard: I don't see why YOU
| should make me the defendant in the case
| and then put me on the stand
! DR.. Hawthorne: l am not making you
the defendant, any more than I am the
! othe, witnesses I am going TO INTRODUCES.
Major Howard: l think he ought to in
f, trodrce them first and catechlse them
| But ] have no objection to making before
| this board the statement 1 made before
! the committee
| Mr.. Bosher: I think Major Howard
! should use his own discretion: ne neeo
! not incriminate himself
! Mr.. Welsh: You have no statement eS-
| cent what YOU made before the board
last week?
Major Howard: 1t is the same state
nlent.
! DR.. Hawthorne: Have you talked to a
minister Of the gospel?
| Major Howard I talked to my own rec
! tor. but l didn't tell him there were tour
! hundred houses of prostitution.
/ DR.. Hawthorne: Did YOU or not tell
/ him that you had the name OF every
house Of prostitution. that you mad the
! name of every inmate OF those houses
! not only her assumed name, but hcr reai
name; that YOU were in communication
with them from time to time. ana mat
! they averaged three to a house:
| Major Howard: I don't recoliect say
! ing that they averaged three to house'
| the balance of the statement is corret.
| The Chairman: If Major Howard is go
! ing to testify. he ought to be sworn.
| DR.. Hawthorne: 1t IS curious tal1ls'
/ gentlemen. that witnesses who nave oeeil
! summoned here to testify about me mat
| ter YOU are to investigate should decllhe
! 10 testify. What is going TO be the con-
! struction the public will put on that sort
1 of thing? +os.
Major Howard. don't decline 10 tes-
| fifv. but | decline at this time
Or. Hawthorne: I don't consioer .ile..
! Major Howard has done anything IN 'n.s
,,,tter that he considers dishonoraole. lie
| is acting upon what / suppose he oel'eses
"a be the wise policy. But want 10 SNOW
TINT our Police Department mas 'haue
mistake in a serious way by not eAecu.iis
,ha statute of the State in TINS Paitico>