The Intermountain Catholic. (Salt Lake City [Utah] ;) 1899-1920, 1902-02-08
Che Cwc Brothers. A. Ry S SFsstss
Controversial Dialogue Between Presbyterian and His
Catholic Brother, Leading Up to Formers Conversions

Protestants as well as to pagan. ana
Mahometans, and you can no more
plead prescription against us than
against them.
Il have admitted the plea of pre-
sumption. in the case of pagautsm and
MahCmetanism. on the suppoSition that
| they are really in possession. q fact
/ however. which l let pass. but do not
I Concede. But PrQteStautS cannot plead
| prescription because they are not. and
never have been in possession. and be
! cause they do not even claim to- be-.
! since you. in their name, deny that
| the commission in question has ever
| issued
But conceding that there was a pre-
| sumption ia favor of the church at
| the epoch of the reformation. and that
/ the reformcrS were not at liberty to-
! separate from her without cause. this
| cannot be said now. The church is not
| now in possession. The refOrmerS gave
! good and valid reasons for separating
/ from her communion. and she has been
condemned as a usurper by the iudg-
ment of mankind. The question is NOT
now on BUSTING her from a possession
she has held from time immemorial
but on reversing the Judgment rem
/ uered against her, readmittiug her to
a possession from which she has been
| elected by due process of law.
When was the Judgment You speak
of rendered? and where is the record
of the court?
The fact is one of public notoriety
and all the world now laughs at the
ridiculous pretentious of Rome
DO you include in all the world the
pagan and Mahometan worlds?
Why should 1 not?
1T may be doubted whether the
question has really ever come to them
IN such a shape that they can be said
to have pronounced judgment upon il:
and as they reject Professionalism when
ever it pretends to be Christian. no less
than Catholicity. they might possibly
be as unsafe witnesses for a Presby-
terrain as for a CathOlic-perhaps even
more so
Let them go. [ mean b} all the
world all the Christian world. Chris
tendon so called.
You mean to assert. then. that
Christendom has pronounced judgment
against the Catholic Church,
Yes, against the Romish Church"
You distinguish without a difference.
The church in communion with the
Church of Rome. acknowledging it's
pcntiff for its supreme head on earth.
IS the only church which, by the con
sent of mankind. is or ever has been
denOminated the Catholic Church"
She should be denominated the
mother of harIots"
80 that Protestant communions
might claim to be her daughters. But
no more of this Have Catholics. who
remain in her communion, pronounced
Judgment against the Church,"
Perhaps not"
And they are as two, if not three.
to one of all who bear the Christian
name"
Il am sorry to say they are"
And l am not sorry, and would to
God there were none but Catholics on
the earth
That is. YOU would. if you could,
eXterminate all Protestants.
Yes. if making them sincere and
humble Catholics were DISCRIMINATING
them. But if Catholics are the great
majority of Christendom. how can you
tell me that Christendom has pro-
nounced judgment against the
Church,"
You may have it so"
Then your position is. the Church
is condemned by all by whom she is
condemned! This may be granted. But
these are a small minority, a mere
handful. Of those who bear the Chris
tan name. By what right do you pro-
nounce their judgment the judgment
of mankind?'
Protestant nations are the more en-
ightened and advanced portion OF
mankind
rs that a conceded fact?"
"Is it not?"
do Catholics concede It?'
Perhaps not"
They are the great ma jority. and.
as they deny it, how can you put it
forth as generally conceded?'
THE denial of Catholics amounts to
nothing-the fact is as L allege."
''In whose Judgment"
In the judgment of all who are
competent to judge in the premises
Who says SOP
Il say so"
Con what authority
THE fact is evident, and cannot be
questioned"
But it is questioned and denied by
Catholics. who are as five to one to
your Protestants'
They viii swear to anything their
priests tell them. Their denial is not
to be counted. They are not to be per-
mitted to testify in their own cause"
AS much as you in yours. Their de-
NAL is as good as your assertion, till
you show some reason why your asser-
ton is to be preferred
Il tell you Protestant atoms are
the most enlightened and advanced
portion of mankind, as is we'll known"
We'll known to whom? To them
yes, if you will"
"By what right are they both wit
nesses and judges in their own cause?"
by the right of being the most en-
lghtened and advanced portion OF
mankind