The Minneapolis journal., 1902-07-05

| mayor" .. 80. 5..s 49, E.
Now, don't you know. as a matter Of
fact, that order didn't mean .anythlng?'"'t
mo, sir; I don't" -. .,--..
We'll, the saloons didn't closer .5
The better class Of them did. ...
They did? Name them"
That's pretty hard thing to do
| Name four"
Il cant, of my own personal knowl-
edge. don't frequent such places"
Can you name one?" .,..
|, The witness made no reply to this.
Now, the big mitt men,. Don't you
know they operated as much after that
order as before?" '. r
mo, sir; think not
| This was virtually an admission on the
part of the chief that he had known of
! operations prior to the issuance of the
order, and Mr.. Boardman was apparently
satisfied. ,'
seances With Grafters.
| Mr.. Boardman tried to make the colonel
| admit he had met Billy Edwards before
| the time he was brought into headquar-
| ters by officers Long and zalusky, but
Ames could not remember"
Now, YOU knew Edwards when they
brought him in, that time?" asked the
county attorney.
HE told me what his name was"
| And didn't that name suggest some
thing to you?'
mo, sir; nothing"
He walked in and sat down In your
private office, didn't he?"
Il think he sat down, yes, SIR
HE didn't think. it was necessary to
talk very much, did hep
He didn't say much
1.-THE sucker was there. He had lost
800. You had the man who had swindled
him. You had the gambling parapherna-
liza, and yet you let him go. Is that your
custom?"
mo, sir"
"But you did 1t for Edwards
There wasn't any case against him."
II think we know all about that case
now, Colonel"
"Now after you saw Crossman in tho
mayors office, you didn't drive him out Of
| town, did you?"
mo, sir"
HE was dismissed by your orders,
| wasn't hep
mo, sir. He was dismissed in the
municipal court"
Yes, because no one appeared against
him. You knew that, didn't you?"
mo, SIR
you sent a telegram to liver johnson
asking him to come here from Colorado
Springs, didn't you?"
Yes, sir
"You knew he was a swindler?'
"No, sir. knew nothing about him.
I sent for him at Norbeck's request. Nor
beck wanted him to testify in his case
who paid for the telegram"
1T was charged to the police depart
,ment."
who paid Johnsons expenses here?"
| Il don't know
Did you wire him any money!"
tNo, sir"
| You didn't know he was an ex-con-
vict?"
mo, sir. I knew nothing about him.
| Norbeck wanted him and I wired.''
On the stand in the King case Johnson
testified that the chief had ordered him
| out Of town, but that transaction had
| evidently escaped the colonel's recollec-
| tion.
Questioned regarding the MEX matter
the colonels memory proved still worse.
He couldn't remember whether a single
detective had reported at headquarters be-
tween the time MEX made his first COM
plant and late in the evening when he
and Prenevost, tired of waiting, left in
disgust.
That Candy store Roundup.
''Now want to ask you if you per-
sonally with Detectives Norbeck, Written
sohn, Bracket, in January of this year,
visited about fifty prostitutes in candy
stores and directed them to pay money to
'Reddy' Cohen?"
This was objected to and the objection
was oyerruled.
II went to about thirty or thirty five
anybody"
Did they come to your Office later?"
Some Of them did"
What for?''
"They wanted to have the order ex-
planned"
"Why did they have to have such an
order explained? Who had they been
Il don't know Of my own personal
knowledge"
But you heard they were?'
II think Captain Krumweide told me
they had been paying money to Gardner"
We'll, Gardner was incapaciated about
lect any more. Now, what else did you
tell then?''
Il told them to report at my office and
there told them such places were con-
trary to my orders.'
Now, colonel, didn't you go to a candy
store run by woman named Mills, at
Ninth avenue and Third street. and tell
ner, but to pay 1t to 'Reddy' Cohen, and
didn't you give her the address where she
| could find him?''
mo, SIR
"Good Character Testimony.
1t was IL o'clock and the witness
stepped down. w. H. Grimshaw was
called as "good character" witness. He
testified that Colonel Ames' reputation for
honesty and integrity had been good until
within the past few. weeks. John Day
Smith gave like testimony. F. G. Hol-
brook said the colonel's reputation among
men who knew him was still good, as 1t
always had been. DR.. Thomas r. Quinn
bys testimony on the same point was a
repetition of that given by Mr.. Grimshaw
and Mr.. Smith. All four men had known
the defendant for several years. They
| were called to permit them to leave town.
Forgot About Rhoades.
! Colonel .Ames resumed his testimony
at o'clock this afternoon, He, said he
could not remember what Rhoades had
| told him about the swindling opera tions
| at 327 Second avenue S. He did remem-
Der, however, that he had told Rhoades
! not to. try to fix up deals Of that kind,
but to bring the men into headquarters.
did you make any investigation of that
matter, Colonel?" asked Mr.. Boardman.
mo, sir; I2did not" j. ~-~r7 = r.~ ::
| Nov, coming back to the MEX mat
ter, what did you do toward apprehending
| the swindlers?" SO ,:.:,<ssa
: ,''1 told MEX to keep his own counsel; !;
I advised him; to stop payment on the
draft, to find out what bank it had been
drawn on, and i tried to locate the draft
did you do one single thing to appre-
hend the thieves?". 49, -; T~....l.1
''That night ?"- .1- s.. .-- =. - s-g,y. r..
"At any timer .,sss.. -,.f-s- = = -, +.
| Yes. The next day I detailed Detect
I've Nelson to look for it" *r75Sst a5:.G