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sshop Thoburn Declares That It
Was the Act Of God.
THAT OF CUBA is THE SAME
n, Could Not Say That the With
drawai from the Island Wa" IL
Being Too soon TO Answer

washington, May 22.-Blshop Tho.
,orr Of the Methodist Episcopal
,buycb stationed in India, was before
,he senate committee on the Philip
,,res today. He said the American
occppaton Of the Philippines was an
act Of God and it should be continued.
This led to quite long line OF ques-
,,ocs bv Senator Patterson, In which
me bishop was asked whether the oc-
ornatlon of Cuba was an act of God,
and when he replied in the affirmative
Senator Patterson asked II the with
drava also was the act of God.
of IS TOO soon TO answer that" he
,.nued. "The United States may have
10 20 back there"
Senator Patterson pursued the ques-
films 10 some length and the bishop
finally pronounced them metaphysical.
Senator Beyeridge objected, saying
,be questions were unnecessary, and
Senator Patterson remarked that
whenever the questions were such as to
hiring out evidence which the majority
did not want, an excuse was made for
objection.
chairman Lodge sustained the objec-
ton.
The line Of the bishops testimony In
mart Is indicated by the following ques-
lions By Senator Patterson and Bishop
Thoburns responses
III a Filipino government had been
established and you had been asked
whether you thought such establish
ment was the act OF God, would you
ask u defer your oplnionY'
q would not say It was an act OF
God"
you would say It was the act Of |
the deyilT
oNo, | would not. ! would say II was
the act Of American politicians. He |
added that he believed that with an |
Independent Philippine government the
Macabebees would be extermlnated
within u months,
Mr.. Patterson asked the witness II
he believed the subjugatlon Of barbar-
GUS or seml-ciyiized people by the
great powers to be the act Of God.
81 would not put Il that way he
replied 'rhe most enterprising gov
enments are pushing out as indiyidu-
ais, and governments generally find
that they have to follow their citizens.
God rules and oyerrules'
IL" said Senator Patterson, "a ma
ton has gone to the help Of a semi
civilized people and finds itself In con-
troll Of their country. has that nation
a right TO oyerrun Il against the viii
Of Ms people and 70 KIN and burn or
destroy 10 accomplish rs purposes"
DO you mean that question serious
ly9' The Bishop asked, and when Sena-
Tor Patterson said he did the bishop
replied that Il was very difficult n
answer Il seriously, for the reason that
what Is right in one case may be
wrong In another 3
Does man determine what Is right {
ana VIVA, Is wrong?" asked Senator 9
Patterson again. c
This question was met by another c
from the bishop rs this" ne asked
theology"
You volunteered to say that Cod had 8
lut US In the Philippines" saii SEN :,
reply 7''N va g
., Bshop Thoburn-I cannot very well ..
l !. theological questions here but 9,
\. \ ! can give YOU any information | ii
mall be glad to do so. 81
III response ia questions from Sena- .,
" OaTmack, Bishop Thoburn expressed a,
Ne opinion that the Philippine reorle n,
Is better disposed toward American is
Missionaries than they were M the n
W.. W. Oh the Spanish war. In proof of N
s statement he said that there is A.
wv an attendance Of l2.O0O people n a.
Y Methodist church in Manila md a,
Jay both IN that city and The out- ~,
lhg provinces It was almost limos. ~
"a AZ 70 meet the demand for teachers
~ %, preachers Bishop Thoburn said p,
"a, me- ne visited Manila for two weeks
M ~ sn' 1879 and again In March.
',.s the witness said he thought the no
,iNu states were In the PHILIPPINES co
wv circumstances which would moi an
,nn. mem to leave, Senator Dubois tn
'.sleu ana asked for a statement ae mi
.t we moral and intellectual capacity be-
the FillpInos "P'''''s inl
-, !. many many respects replied the Wit tbs
ne uvy are like the American In en-.
30 mere Is no conference among an
i'' lhey are divided into tribes tin
~. sne plggest man among them is etc
5h'aly recognized as a sultan. They a S
I'lsht and quick, but not profound lie.
! am afraid they are trea cberons T" be
'hs'or Beyeridge brought ont Tho mo
v'tg. . 'ne witness had resided for
I, a,lse years In the Straits Settle.
10 @nI asked him for his oplnion OF u
nst S.oi,g OF the Malay for self-gov- con
~ mink they are very defec- dey
ort, seu' IL would be a crime in ! of I
.yi p.'noh, 10 remove the present agr
q" restraints in the Philip hee
,espohse 10 questions bv sanator -
= S'svn' bishop Thoburn said he no. NJ
= we tUlpinos should have a nro- -
ra.e atter the manner OF the Prf,. h ~.
nv, The bishop said no 80 80
- peneVe that originate ne ~
| an government had, when Ade VIZ
on W ~" ~, Went 10 Manila. any In. NJ
u p- .dHihg control OF the PhilIp- ua .
ga hteaient Mckinley. he said we, was
boss u,lh mat he had tried In every ~ 80
pVsslble to avoid the annexa,,as "hi
e Philippines. annexation In
ator
as Democ.. was
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