The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1902-10-08
SENDS A THIRD CHALLENGE FOR
AMERICAS CUP TO NEW
YORK YACHT CLUB
NE HAS LITTLE TO SAY
il REGARDING THE MATTER
Insists 1t Would Be Discourtesy to Say
What Document Contains in Advance
of Its Receipt by the Club on This
I Side of the AtIantie-Praise for the
R Yankees.

LONDON, Oct. Sir Thomas Lip
tons third challenge for a series of
races for the Americas cup was sign
ed this afternoon at Belfast, Ireland,
acht club. Charles Russell repre-
tented Sir Thomas Upton. The chal-
Ienge was Immediately posted and
/ goes to New York on the White Star
line steamer Oceanic (Which sails
/ from Liverpool tomorrow and from
/ Queenstown on Thursday.
The Associated Press understands
that the terms of the challenge do not
! materially differ from those of 1900.
/ The first races are expected to take
place in August. Sir Thomas Upton
said:
L cannot discuss the terms until
the officials of the New York Yacht
club have had an opportunity to deal
with them and have signified their
opinions in regard to them"
I ! He believed the Shamrock Ill would
be an Improvement on the last chal
lenger.
{. IF she is beaten" he said, ''the
Americans will have to produce a bet
ter boat than can be built in the Unit
ed Kingdom.
:. Il intend leaving the Shamrock II.
in America as trial horse there while
L use the Shamrock I. for the same
purpose on this side
ON previous occasions the arrange
Z ments for the competitions were so
adequately fulfilled that I can suggest
no improvements. 1 am anticipating
my visit with the keenest pleasure,
whether I win or lose. | have always
I been treated with the greatest kindness
and it is quite case Of reVisiting old
friends, only this time 1 hope they will
not have a faster boat"
b NEW YORK, Oct. 7.-Lewis Cass
i1 edward onTon0n6nra Of ha
Yacht club, was mucl\ interested today
! when shown the cable from London
stating that the challenge of Sir Thorn
as Upton for the Americas cup had
I been signed and posted. He said he
had no private advices on the subject.
AS soon as the challenge is received a
special meeting of the club will be call
ed to act on its acceptance.
III EngIishmen Are Enthusiastic.
The fact that the challenge was
mailed to New York was not published
mere today, but the comments made
on the subject by yachtSmen when ing
formed of it by representative of the
Associated Press indicate that yacht
ing men in Great Britain identify
themselves as completely and enthusi-
astically with this challenge as they
did with the two which preceded it..
A few irreconcilables still quote the
OoIli eINCl1 CplSOuS, IOIS6llul OI Tie
generous treatment accorded the
Shamrock I. and the Shamrock IL, but
fthe majority of yachtsmen are undis-
guisedly pleased that another attempt
to vindicate Great Britain's claim to
yachting supremacy is to be made.
Opinion is divided on the prospects
of success. The older school of yachts
men is generally respondent and
argues that the only chance of British
success lay in the retention of Mr..
Watson as designer, quoting the VAL
kyrie III. and the Shamrock IL, Mr..
WatSon'S last boats, as the only yachts
which ever came within measurable
distance of success. The opinions of a
large majority Of yachtsmen, how
ever, appear to coincide entirely with
those of the Clyde yachtsmen, build
ers and experts, many of whom ex-
pressed the view this evening that Mr.
Fife, with all the details and plans of
both Shamrocks before him. has a bet
ter chance of turning out a successful
challenger than Mr.. Watson had when
he started on the Shamrock II.
Hints as to New Boat.
Mr.. Fife has approached the prob
lem of producing a winner in a man
ner radically different frEm that en-
ployed in the construction of any pre-
ViouS challenger. Hitherto the idea
dominating the design was to secure
length and power. The Shamrock 1.
carried this idea to one extreme and
the Shamrock III. will carry it to the
other. The lines and measurements
of the Shamrock III. suggest that the
first idea has been to get boat better
suited to autumn weather off Sandy
Hook. Stability and sail carrying ca
pacity have, therefore, been made sec
ondary to the production of hull
: which can be easily driven. Fears
have been expressed in inner yacht
ing circles that the Shamrock Ill will
be easily overpowered in fresh
breeze, but Messrs. Fife and Watson
are both satisfied to take this risk in
order to obtain a good light weather
boat.
The challenger will be built at the
Dennys yard and nickel steel will be
employed throughout for her frames
plating, deck and principal spars. The
early start of the Shamrock Ill for the
other side will, it is considered, give
her considerable advantage over pre-
vious attempts, the failures of which
are attributed to inadequate prepara-
ton more than anything else.
To Be Tested on Both Sides.
Experts point out that the Sham