The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1902-05-09
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TED the interview as the confederate COM
missioners retired, President Lincoln,
addressing Stephens, who was the last to
go out, said:
stephens, you are making a great
mistake our government is a failure and
when the crash comes, as it must come,
there will be chaos and disaster which
we cannot now foresee which must come
to your people,
This account of that interview" con-
tinued Mr.. Vest, substantially and al
most word for word as l have given it,
came to me from Mr.. Stephens and Mr..
Hunter"
Mr.. Vest said that he considered it his
duty to make this statement in order
that that history may not be falsifed:
in order that the men who were said to
have refused this offer at the hands of
President Lincoln should not be made to
sin in their graves, adding, For if they
had refused what was said to have been
rendered to them by the President they
would have been accessories to the mur-
der of every man who fell from that
time in defense of the Confederate cause
and they should have given the lie to the
intentions which they professed when
| they riskeG everything, everything that
/ is held dear amongst men in defense
of the Confederate cause"
While deep silence still reigned in the
| chamber. he spoke and with every eye
directed towards him, Mr.. Vest conclud-
| ed. as follows:
1T may be but a very short time until
| I shall Joint the twenty-five colleagues
had in the Confederate Senate ani l
/ did not want this statement to go into
| the record of this country without my
statement of these facts and my solemn
| denial that there is a shadow of tiu;h
| in this assertion which has been gong
/, the rounds of the newspapers Of .he
country for the last few years.
| The discussion of the Philippine Bill
| then was resumed and Mr. Carmack
| CTenn), replying to Mr.. Burton, made
| a bitter denunciation of General Funston.
| He said he did not doubt his physical
courage but few acts of re-deviltry
| in the Philippines did not make a hero
| When Funston had stated that Agui-
naldo had burned 800 people alive at one
| time, said Mr. Carmack, he told delib-
| crate and premeditated lie In his opin-
| ion, he said, Funston is not to be be-
| lieved under any question whatever. The
| sudden waking up of the Republicans, he
| said, was for the deliberate purpose OF
| reviving sectional hate in order to di-
| vert this debate and attention OF the
people from atrocities which have been
permitted in the Philippines.
| | suppose it is in obedience TO in
| structions from the White House." he
| said, 'that the effort is long made to re-
| open the wounds of the country that have
| been healed"
Facing the Republican side and speak
| ing with evident emotion Mr.. Carmack
| said:
| 81 shall be ready to meet every SLAM
| derer of the South and every defamer
| of it's honor, whether the assailant Comes
from some part of the country beyond
the borders of the South or whether it
be some recreant and degenerate son who
| has proved traitor to the womb and
| bosom of his mother
| After stating that he would not be
| diverted from the issue now before the
Senate by falsehoods brought into the
| debate, Mr.. Carmack said referring 10
| the charges of lynching, ETC., in the
| Southy 'You cannot help us by dennn-
citation. The best thing you can do is TO
| keep your mouth shut and let us alone"
| Turning his attention to the Philip
pine question end especially to the
| speech OF Mr.. Lodge, Mr.. Carmack said
the Massachusetts Senator was so mar
row that he could not have a proper
appreciation of the arguments that have
been made against the present Philip
pines policy. He declared that Mr..
Lodge was dishonoring the American
| army and the American Senate by de-
| Tending orders which looked to the muir
der of women and children. Such orders
| of death. a brutal and inhuman order
| could not be jg-tified by anybody; yet
these were the orders which Senators had
| "devilish impudence' to justify.
"Does the Senator think inquired Mr..
Spooner. chat the phrase 'devilish impu-
dence' is proper under the rules OF the
| Senate?''
mo. do not" said Mr.. Carmacl, "and
I withdraw the expression
Mr. Carmack. quoting from the speech
/, of Mr.. Lodge, said that the Massachu-
| setts Senator had not suggested any
| reason why Gen. Smith should not be
hanged as a common murderer.
Smith has not said Mr.. Carmack,
| burned people at the stake. He has
done nothing but butcher whole people
in cold blood He has dishonored the
| whole American army" He declared
that the United States was entering upon
century, perhaps three centuries OF
constant warfare, for no other result
than that a few carpet bag thieves
might have opportunity to rob the peo-
pie of the Philippine Islands as they
used to rob the people of the South
Mr.. Foraker interrupted to inquire If
Mr.. Carmack thought it was the purpose
of President Mckinley i ntaking over the
Philippine Islands to provide theatre
of scoundrelism.
Mr.. Carmack replied that Mckinley s
| purpose was that of benevolent assimi-
lation," 1.-The purpose of the Republican
party now is malevolent assimilation.
Laughter)
Mr.. Dolliver then read an editorial
from a Memphis newspaper upon Mr..
| Carmacks recent speech on the Philip
pine question in which that paper took
sharp issue with the Tennessee Senator
as to his conclusions. Mr.. Dolliver'
comments upon the editorial as he read
it were highly amusing and both the
Senators on the floor and the people in
the gallery laughed heartily at his sar-
| castle allusions.