New-York tribune., 1902-01-21
4" "PRIS0NER Is KERN" !"
THEBAUD IDENTIFIES 4" MAN
NERS" AS HIS EX- VALET.
RECOGNIZES JEWELRY AS HIS
TROUBLE WITH SHERIFF ADJUSTED
KERN WILLING TO COME TO
NEW-YORK
RECOGNIZES
NEW-YORK.
IBY TELEGRAPH TO THE tribune


The above declaration was made this after
noon BY P. G. Thebaud, of New-York, who ad-
dressed Sheriff Marrero while pointing to the
prisoner Kern. who has been held under deten-
ton in the Gretna jail for several days Kern
sheepishly hung his head. while his face was
nearly white the shirt toward which his
chin dropped.
Gretna was the Mecca Of the curiously in
clined this morning. The crowd began to as
semble early. The friction that had occurred
between the Sheriff and thel two visitors from
New-York yesterday caused an immense crowd
to gather around the Jeffeeson Parish court
house jail early this morning Mr.. Thebaud
called up Governor Heard the long distance
telephone last night and requested the State
Executive to intervene and issue instructions to
Sheriff Marrero, Of jefferson Parish. TO permit
him TO visit the jail and identify the prisoner
as Kern. The Governor called up the Sheriff
about midnight and had a long conversation
with that official over the telephone, at the con-
clusion Of which the Governor notified Thebaud
that he had arranged fer him to visit the Gretna
Jail this morning.
Sheriff Marrero was in his office waiting for
them when Mr.. Thebaud and Detective Kelly
arrived, at 1870 o'clock this morning. Mr..
Thebaud asked for a private interview with
Marrero and they entered the latter's private
Office and remained coseted for about quar-
ter Of an hour. After that Frederick Middleton
one Of the prisoners attorneys. had long pri-
vate talk with Thebaud in the Sherff's office. 1t
was after II o'clock when the start to the Jail
was made. Sheriff Marrero designated the men
who were TO be admitted TO the cell when Mr..
Thebaud would confront the prisoner, but at
the request Of Mr.. Middleton it was decided
that Mr.. Thebaud and Mr.. Coutourie. a person
al friend Of the Thebaud family. only should
go in 10 see and speak to the prisoner. They
remained locked up in the cell for more than
half an hour. At the conclusion OF the inter
view with Kern Mr.. Thebaud knocked the
cell door and Sheriff Marrero and his deputies
and all the attorneys and reporters present came
forward
When the party entered the cell Kern was
covering in a corner, seated at the head of his
cot. II then that. pointing to him. Mr..
Thebaud turned toward Sheriff Marrero and
said:
The prisoner is Edouard Kern, jr. He is the
man have been looking for"
Sheriff Marrero stepped toward the prisoner,
saying:
rs this your watch. Mr.. Manners?'
"A faint smile fickered across the prisoners
pallid face Il haf aretty send dat watch away"
he said.
And that watch charm. What did you do
with that" asked the Sheriff.
Send dat away, doo," was his answer. with
the same sckly attempt at smile of defiance.
is that the way you impose upon my conf
dence?" said Sheriff Marrero. warmly address
ing Attorney Middleton. one of Kern's lawyers.
You know that permitted this fellow to keep
his watch because he made the plea that he
wanted 10 know the time. and only yielded be-
cause We were not positive he was the man
wanted
Mr.. Middleton made no answer.
Did he make any attempt to deny that he is
q Tfa nTT QGk kad 2
Thebaud
4 have nothing TO say said Mr.. Thebaud.
I do not propose TO talk to any about what
was SAID in the interview had with the pris-
oner. All 1 will say now is that he is Kern"
Well, 1t looks as though you had gone up
against il. old fellow" said the reporter. turn
ing 10 the prisoner.
7 poasudy refoos to say anyding." was the
answer. but at the some time both of his at
torneys had broken in, exclaiming in unison:
Don't have anything TO say to that fellow;
he's newspaper man"
Ach. knew dat alretty yet; I will say nut
ting, and the prisoner chuckled a low but dis
cordant 'Ha ha-" Every one withdrew, and the
prisoner AMI his attorneys were left alone.
Chandler Luzenburg, another of Kern's at
torneys soon arrived, and admitted to
the cell He remained only a few moments.
When he came out he said that even if Mr.
Thebaud did say that Manners is Kern. he
would not believe him until he should say so
N court Of justice under oath; then it would
oepeno entirely upon what the Judge would
nave 10 say. Even then he might find il neces-
sary 10 ascertain what some higher judge might
nave 10 say IN tne premises. w nile Mr. LuZen-
ourg would not admit il, this was accepted as an
lnumation that the lawyers in the case pro-
pose 10 fight against the extradition of their
client to the very last ditch.
after the party returned TO the courthouse
M Thebaud and Sheriff Marrero held another
conference, which was much more satisfactory
lnan that Of yesterday and Sheriff Marrero
SAID that he found Mr.. Thebaud to be an entire
" different man than he thought he
There were mutual explanations, and the two
men came TO a better understanding. The Sher-
IN explained that il he alone were to be con-
Aoered there would have been no discussion
whatever, but when n:Eer people than himself
nae been LED to believe that reward had been
offered IL would ruin him to come out and say
mat in course of a private conversation Mr..
lhebaud had denied having offered any reward.
No~ that every one understood that reward
had been offered, he could not be held respon-
slnle for the sensational reports of a large re-
ward. Mr.. Thebaud said that he would do "the
rght Thing" by the people who had been instru-
mental in bringing about the arrest of his
hieving valet.
After Mr.. Thebaud had examined the various
articles Of jewelry which had been taken by the
ohcers from Kline and West after their capture
sno which had been stolen from Kern, he identi-
1o every piece belonging to him.
The attorneys for Kern, Messrs. Middleton and
-1zenburg, when seen by the correspondent for
me Tribune this evening refused to say what
eshon they would take with regard their
cnent. They would speak any subject
Kern
Kern informed the jailer at Gretna this af-
etnoon that he is willing to return TO New-York
saIlhout "A requisition. Thebaud and Kelly fear
..hat the prisoners attorneys VIII persuade him
- ehange his mind, however and they have tel
sraphed 10 New-York to have the requisition
I Fapers forwarded without delay.
'r STATE SHERIFF TRIED SAME GAME