The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1902-02-04
And Was Able tn Parry the Latter's
Thrusts and WELD His Lance
More Advantageously.
DEBATE HEATED AT TIMES
SENATOR CARMACK's SPEECH ON
THE PHILIPPINE QUESTION.
Stewards Proposition to Increase Pay
OF Senators and Representa-
tives Defeated "a to Is.

WASHINGTON, Feb 3-Another spirited
debate, with the Philippine tariff bill as
the text, was precipitated in the Senate
to-day as the result of some statements
made by Mr.. Carmack, of Tennessee, In
the course of an extended speech on the
general Philippine question. 1t was the
Tennessee senator's first speech I'm the Sem
ate. and he was given notably good atten-
tion both sides OF the chamber. He
spoke without manuscript, with earnest
ness. force and eloquence.
At the conclusion OF his address, which
had been listened to by many of his former
colleagues in the House of Representatives.
Mr. Beveridge. of Indiana. challenged some
of his statements. The debate which en-
sued was very lively for a few minutes,
taking on a political phase. which proved
particularly interesting TO the auditors who
crowded the floor as well as the galleries.
Mr.. Beveridge and Mr.. Tillman became in
volved in heated colloquy I'm which the
exchanges were as hot as both senators
well could make them.
Prior to the taking up OF the Philippine
bill the measure providing for an increase
in the salaries of United States judges was
under discussion for an hour. In the course
OF the debate the case of Judge Arthur
H. Noyes, of the District Court OF Alaska,
was drawn on to show why some judges
should not be given the increase.
AT the conclusion of routine business Mr.
Culberson inquired whether reply had
been received from the secretary &c MasAa,
his resolution. passed ten days ago, calling
for certain correspondence relating to the
Philippine tariff. When informed that no
reply had been received he declared that
in view of the fact that the question was
under discussion in the Senate the delay
was unseemly.
SALARY GRAB KILLED.
Consideration of the bill TO increase the
salaries of judges of United States courts
then was resumed. The pending amend
ment was that offered by Mr. Stewart, in
creasing the salaries OF senators and men,
bers of the House to $500 annually, be-
ginning on March 4, 1903. After brief dis
cussion the amendment was rejected-i5
to 44-as follows:
Yeas-Burton. Clark Of wyoming. Dubois.
Gallinger, Gamble, Hansbrough Hawiey
Heitfeld, kittredge, Quarles. Quay. Stew
Nays-Bacon, Bard, Berry, Blackburn
Burnham, Burrows, Carmack Clapp Clax
Culberson Cullom, Deboe. Dietrich. Dilling-
ham, Dolliver, Fairbanks. Frye, Gibson
Hale, Harris, Hoar, Jones of Askansas
Kean, Kearns. Lodge. McLaurin OF South
Carolina, Mcmillan, Mallory, Martin. Mitch
ell, Money, Morgan, Nelson, Patterson
Pettus, Platt Of New York Pritchard.
Proctor, simmons, Spooner, Taliaferro. Tel
Ter, Tillman. Wellington-A
An amendment was then offered by Mr.
Foraker extending the proposed increase
of the salaries OF circuit judges to the cir
cult judge Of Porto Rico.
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the amendment by extending the proposed
increase ia salary TO the district judge OF
Hawaii
Mr.. Tillman inquired of Mr. Foraker
whether Porto Rico was in the United
States or not.
Il wiz say TO the senator" replied Mr..
Foraker, that Porto Rico belongs TO the
United States"
''The matter of belonging to- and being
in is entirely different" suggested Mr.
Mr.. Foraker thought this was not a prom
er time TO discuss the status OF Porto Rico.
"Oh, there is plenty Of time" said Mr.
Tillman. We've got the whole session be-
fore us. We might as well discuss the
question now at any other time"
Mr.. Foraker said he would say simply
that Porto Rico belongs To the United
states "The relation of the island 10 the
United States has been established by Con-
gress and approved by the Supreme Court -
Mr. Teller urged that IL the salaries Of
the judges in Porto Rico and Hawaii were
10 be increased those Of the judges in the
Territories also should be increased
Considerable opposition was developed 10
the amendment. and Mr. Foraker wftndrevv
IL rather than jeOpardize the bill. Mr. Clark
insisted upon his amendment and reoffered
It at once. The amendment was laid on the
table without division.
TILLNIAN SCORES MOVES.
Taking advantage OF the latitude OF de-
bate offered by the Senate rules. Mr.. Till
man directed attention 10 an article in the
Washington Post published to-day, rela-
tive to the case OF Judge Arthur III. Noyes.
Of the District Court OF Alaska who was
fined 81 900 recently by the Circuit Court al
San Francisco and of associates OF Judra
Moves who were involved with him Mr.
Tilman read the article. which indicated
that Judge NOyes and his associates are
drawing large salaries from the United
States while the case against them Is pend
ing in the courts. one OF the men. accord
Ing 10 the article, who II serving his sen
tence continues 10 draw salary Mr. Till
man made running comments upon the
statements in the article directing all ria
sarcasm ridicule and invectives aeainsf
Judge Noyes finally inquiring: ''By the
way whose business Is IL 10 remove this
man?"
peachment proceedings 10 remove Judge
Noyes but Mr.. Teller contended that the
President had ample power 10 remove q
territorial judge. He believed there was
no question about that. He declared that
the actions OF Judge Noyes had been a
Crying HtldNics anu dsSttteN llat "A fecital
OF his outrages would startle the American
people.
At . o'clock the Philippine tariff bill was
laid before the Senate and Mr.. Carmack.
a member OF the Philippine commission,
delivered a speech In opposition 10 the
pending measure Proper consideration OF
the bill. he said involved the whole Philip
pine question. He contended that Congress
not prepared 10 deal understandingly
with the Philippine situation IN any OF its
phases because 10 was not familiar with
the facts The bill he said had been
framed by the Philippine commission. an
autocratic body 1000 miles away. and not
q change had been made in Il BY Congress.
This BILL" said Mr. carmack. as framed