The Minneapolis journal. [volume] (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, 1902-12-16

ship OF the atock&'
YES, that 3 What meant /
Mr.. NIany then asked Mr.. IA, iris to find
out who:vot,.,; h }s,, ;'17ston stock owned
by the Northern l.; t.lSA ;tu& Great North
ern." He promiseG~ uU look the matter up
and give the information, which he did
not have ready. Mr.. Mum turned 'Presi-
dent Harris over to Judge Young Tor
cross examination and he further ex-
planned the ideas he had Of the benefit of
the community of interest. The roads
would get more business but the rates
would not be raised. The tendency OF
rates was downward, though the railroads
paid more for nearly everything. Inc
rates even to n-competing points would
fall, largely because of increase In the
volume Of traffic.
On redirect by Mr.. Mum, Mr.. Harris
said that railroad men did not know
much about stock ownership, but they
knew there was action, and did not nave
to be told. However, the community OF
interest was due, he admitted, to q COM
mon financial interest.
In his dealings with the Great North
ern and Northern Pacific he had In mind
their relation to the Burlington as CO.
stockholders and not their mutual owner
ship by the Northern Securities company.
Mr. Mum asked him whether since the
merger there had not been Increase Of
rates on the Burlington and the other two
roads, either by increasing the rate or
raising the classification. Mr.. Harris said
he knew nothing of such increase. He
was the1, excused, and the hearing then
adjourned for the day. 1t will be resumed
tomorrow at 10 a. m.
Mr. Hill was not called to-day. He may
be tomorrow, but there is nothing GER
tain about 1t. The state Is practically
through with it's evidence.
Darius Miller on Joint Rates.
nd
eral traffic manager Of the Burlington,
was first sworn and. examined by M. D.
Num- He said he was second vice
president of the Great Northern from
1898 to 1902, and in charge Of the traffic.
AS traffic manager he had the fixing of
! rates, but in those matters consulted with
| Mr.. Hill frequently. 49,
"While in that position inquired Mr..
| Mum, did you have occasion to take up
| the question of joint rates between the
| Great Northern and the Burlington?'
II did, .
Sometimes on a. mileage basis, some
times on arbitrary division, sometimes the.
sum of locals. They were always ar
ranged by agreement. 9 80
Were there not some points reached
by both your road and the Northern Pa
ciflc, which would get freight from points
on the Burlington?"
There WERE"
| did you not sometimes make a lower
rate to get this business?"
Tariff rates were always the same
Were not concessions sometimes
| made?" .-
| There may have been occasions when
rates were not maintained
"Since January, 1902, what position have
| you held with the Burlington?"
Second vice president and traffic
manager.'
From whom did you first receive the
suggestion that you make the changer"
II think was told by Mr.. HILL
| did he tell you what would be your
| duties?"
HE said he expected I would have to
go with the Burlington as traffic mana
GER
What did he say about your fixing
| rates?''
Nothing, except in a general way"
| Did he say he would have to get some
| one to take the placer"
| mo, he said the Burlington would have
| to have some one --s
| when was the suggestion made?"
'In November"
Did he ask you prior to that time to
suggest some one for the placer"
| He did,
did you have any talk as to your duties
1 In that position, as to how it would affect
the Northern Pacific and Great North
ern?" 800.
| mo, SIR"
did he say anything about salary"
| mot at that time, but later he said
he had spoken to our Mr.. Harris about 1t,
and it would be made satisfactory"
WAS anything said about your severing
your connection with the Great North
ern?"
l. Yes, he said he was very sorry to part
with me-. It was very kind Of him to
jolly me up a little" at which remark Mr..
Miller smiled. a +' =
Relations Between Merger Roads,
! HAS anything been said since by Mr..
Hill about your making rates on the
! Burlington?"-
mo, SIR"
mo letters on that subject?" sY.,. Is.
mo, sir; none whatever" .,sz-4 F.
HAS there been any change in the
routing Of freight?'' 49,, ..-lal5& -
mo, sir" 80 ~ H.. ST.. =: -s.. . ...e..
l., What is the system?" -.. ..@
We'll, where the shipper does not die
tate the route, we, route the freight tc
junction points on the Great Northern
and Northern Pacific, according to the
amount Of freight we receive from them ;
You determine that?" ~
Yes" s.t't@e II as / s.s .z
rs there any effort made to get bust.
ness for either Of those roads?'
Yes, they have their agents looking
after that. They complain that the othel
fellow is getting the best of it,
From whom did you get those let.
ters?' s 5=
From Mr.. Blabon and Mr.. Hannaford.
DO you ship much coal to junction
points in Minnesota ?'
YES" st$
. who determines the route?"
a 1T is very largely routed by the ship
!, per- ,t - ~
8 In those cases is there any effort mad,
by the shipper to get a reduced rate?''
Yes"
: rs that application made to you?,'
Sometimes and sometimes to the ter
f minal road
Who determines whether there shoul
t Ebe a reduced rate?''
= I'VE do as far as we are concerned. -
E Has there been any reduction made?'
q mot on coal"
! "On any other commodities
Yes, to Seattle, Portland and othe
points reached by competitors, the Grea
3 Northern, NorthaEn Pacific, Canadian Pa
q cifc and Union Pacific. These are mad
z by agreement :
4 But SO far as the Great Northern an
e Northern Pacific were concerned, the ship
: per is left to determine the route2''
n Yes. 25#s 45
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