New-York tribune., 1902-02-04
PHILIPPINE TARIFF FIGHT.
SENATOR'S BEvERIDGE AND TILLMAN
ENGAGE IN A LIVELY COLLOQUY.

with the Philippine Tariff bill the text was
prectpitated IN the Senate to-day by statements
made by Mr.. Carmack, Of Tennessee, In an e1-
tended speech on the general Philippine question
At the close of his speech Mr.. Beveridse chaI-
lenged some Of his statements. The DEBATE Whlch
| ensued lively for few minutes taxing on
q pottical phase which proved particularly inter-
esting to the auditors who crowded the moor az
we'll "a the galleries Mr.. Beveridge and MT.
Tiilrnan became involved in heated colloquy' In
which the exchanges were as hot as ooth senator
well could make them
Mr Carmack contended that Congress was not
prepared 10 deal understandingly with the Philip
pine situation in any of Its phases because II
was not familiar with the facts. The bill he SAID
had been framed by the Philippine Commission an
eutocrattc body, thousand miles away, anu
not a change had been made in 1t by Congress
"Tbis bill" said Mr. Carmack. 'ts framed on the
theory that the Philippine Islands are deadly
menace to our own trade, and that the less we
trade with those islands and the less we have TO
do with them the better it will be for us The only
trade that will flourish under such conditions is
that of the exploters. and it is proposed 10 turn
the islands over TO them. 1t is for the nehent Oh
the carpetba ggers and not for the benefit OF the
American people that war OF criminal aggression
is being waged in the Philippine Islands
MR.. BEVERIDGE ARRAIGNs DEMOCRATS
Mr.. Beveridge sharply challenged the statement
that the Philippine tariff had not been Well OF
carefully considered. He declared that MT. Car
mack designed to convey to the country the I'M
preston that the Philippine COMMISSION Hau mo-
carefully thoughtfully considered the tarin scale
AS a. matter of fact. he said. that SCALE was fxe-
after months Of consideration and after consult
ing every interest In the Philippines.
did the Philippine Committee make an inves-
tigation of the Philippine tariff scale? inquired
Mr.. Carmack
No" replied Mr. Beveriige. but the Philippine
Commission has been considering that scale for
two years" Mr.. Beveridge declared that II the
Democratic party had given its last tariff bill
+ba vvbt mad the PhtiiBpna
tariff this country's prosperity would not have
wthered as it had under the tariff that party en-
acted.
Further along Mr. Beveridge declared that the
reason why ex-President Cleveland, ex-President
Harrison and ex-senator Edmunds who had not
been in sympathy with the Philippine policy OF
the administration declined TO follow the Demo
cratic party because that party would not ac-
cept the decisions Of the Supreme Court and the
verdict of the American people final He asserted
that the reasons why the moderate. thoughtful and
constructive people OF the country had not followed
the Democratic party iE rs opposition TO the proper
control Of the Philippines and in other matters
OF national policy was that they feared that party
would SOW the dragons teeth from which would
spring a harvest Of anarchy" Another reason. he
said. that that party sounding note Of
retreat. and never in the history OF the country
had the American people retreated from any propo-
sition fairly presented TO them. and they never
would
They will not follow you" he declared shaking
his finger at the Democratic side. because you
are calling our soldiers murderers and charity
boys and doers OF dirty work.
TILI.MAN IN ERUPTION AGAIN.
AS he was proceeding TO discuss OF the
conditions in the Philippine Islands, Mr.. Tilimsn
interrupted with the inquiry: 'Will the Senator
be explicit. and give the benefit OF his per
sonaI observations any official Information he
has in regard to the dispatch from General Bell
that he proposed 10 make the war so terrible that
they would want peace. and want II bad? Is that
true is Il not?'
THAT was done while I there" replied
Mr.. Beveridge II viii ask the Senator whether
when he IS making war. he would not make war
so terrible that the enemy would want peace?'
That would depend" said Mr.. Tillman. whether
I honestly engaged in war that thought
decent and respectable or Of subjugation and
infamy."
And does the Senator charge" demanded Mr
Beveridse. that General Bell does not believe he
is engaged IN an honest war;
Il know that there are plenty OF officers there
who feel they are doing dirty work. shouted Mr.
OF it."
Has General Bell told you so7" insisted Mr..
Beveridge.
'.I don know about General Bell" said Mr. Till
man. II have not seen him"
'Then why do you drag in General Bell. General
Wheaton and othersT sharply inquired Mr.. Bev-
Mr.. .Tirlman-I win drag into this discussion
Associated Press report from Manila
Mr. Beveridge-NOw IT is an Associated Press
THE CENSORSHIP AGAIN
Mr. TiIlman-Then you either have censorship
there you have not You swear you have not
and then when the reports come you say. Those
not ours"
Mr BeverdFe-It is hopeless When they begin
TO discuss the constitution and we take them up
that, they come 10 censorship. When say
that none exists. then they go TO war. bloodshed.
plage and murder.
After sharp personal colloquy in which the
Indiana and South Carolina Senators ridculed each
other, Mr.. Beveridge proceeded TO relate an Incl
dent Of the burning OF village, and said that on
investigation II proved that II was the act Of the
reports against the American soldiers. Mr. TIL
man was on his feet again. and asked Mr.. Beve-
ridge: From whom do we get the statements that
the insurgents or rebels or whatever they are, did
all this burning?''
''The American authorities" replied Mr. Bever-
"And is It customary" inquired Mr. TtlIman. 'to
determine a from parte statenent?'
why does the Senator always insist" retorted
from an American source is falsehood while
everything that comes from the enemy is the
For the same reason" replied the South Caro-
capital burned in 1865 there was an Infamous
assertion that we burned H. when everybody knew
Now Mr.. President" said Mr. Beveridge laugh
ing I'VE are back again on ancient history, which
Mr. Allison member of the Philippine Com
had eiven the Philippine tariff the most careful
consideration Of which he was capable He had
fed that the scale as good. perhaps as could
be devised. He believed that every member OF re
After some incidental discussion bv Mr. ForakAr
Mr.. Teller and Mr.. Carmack, the Senate went into
executive session. and few minutes later ad-
journed.
GERMAN STEAMSHIP MEy COMING.