The daily morning journal and courier., 1901-06-12
T don't recall just what it was"

Yes"
 Did you say that it was more for tn repeal of the pension act than any thing else?"
 'Yes, and I think so now"
 Did you say that if the men wer restored the public would be satisfied?
 NO; I didn't go so far as that said that there was no i'll feeling against the officers"
 At the meeting of May IA, when tn two captains were voted to be put ol the veteran reserve list the board vot ed to appoint Sergeant Hayes and VII Hams as acting captains, didn't they?'
 This was objected to and withdrawn hart.
 At this point MT. Driscoll said tha by retirement of the two captains tho taxpayers would save money, and this question was asked him:
 How do you mean they would save money"
 "They would not exactly save 1t, bu ] it wouldn't be any more expense"
 Well. wouldn't their places have tc be filled?"
 This was objected to and with 1 drawn.
 After your talk with the citizens committee you had your conversation | with the commissioners, didn't you?" Yes sir" "Who were they?"
 Commissioners Landers. Corey and Clark"
 State what was the first thing you said"
 T can't do it. Mir Wolfe"
 Can you give me any of the conver- sation as you recall it?"
 NO, I don't think I can"
 Cant you tell me anything that was said about the inefIlciency or lack of discipline on the part of the ofIlcers?'
 Well, can in general way" Here the witness gave a few pieces of con- versation that took place between him self and the three commissioners, and after he finished the attorney asked him if, after the conversation with the com missioners, he wa.s perfectly satisfied that they had acted In a fair and just way. The ex-mayor said; If I hadn't been satisfied as to this point I would have had them removed from office or would have had them resign"
 Did you discuss, within two months before the time the resolutions were in- troduced, this matter with any of the police commissioners?
 "Oh I may have spoken in an off hand sort of way to one of the commits sioners."
 Was 1t MT Avery?"
 No, sir, I think not
 Was 1t with Mr Clarke you had your dscussion?"
 That I am not sure of.
 At this point recess of five minutes was taken.
 After court came to order MT. Drls- coll said that the first real knowledge of the intended transfers that he had was when MT. Avery took the resolu- tions from his pocket at the meeting of May IA
 You say you can't name single commissioner with whom you talked on this transfer matter?'
 ''No, sir, can't"
 Are you sure you didn't talk with Clarke?'
 Yes"
 "Or with Avery?"
 "Yes"
 "Or with shanahan?"
 Yes" ae.
 "Or with Landers?"
 Yes. - E4s
 "So that as far as you are concerned you didn't have any knowledge of the act until Avery pulled the resolutions out of his pocket?'
 NO, sr'
 Did you attend the meeting on that night with any one?"
 No, sir I think not
 Didn't you walk from your office to the office of the board with one of the commissioners?
 Not that I remember"
 The attorney questioned tho witness at length on this point, but the former mayor was strong in the belief that he walked to the commissioners room alone on that fatal night. After a few more questions were ask ed MT. Wolfe asked MT Driscoll if he had ever made charges against the com mssioners. MT. Drscoll said that he thought he did, but whether they were formal or informal he didn't know. Did you call in any witnesses at | your hearing with the commissioners? "No, sir" You don't recall whether or not you l called Commissioner Corey or Commis- sioner Lee?" "No, sir The meeting with the commissioners | shortly after the night of the retirement | vas again brought up, and at this point | he commissioners attorneys arose and | ;aid they were tired of hearing the some old questions asked and repeated. The questions were allowed, however ind Mir. Wolfe said;
 "Did you tell the commissioners that f they had any evidence against the nen they had better produce it?" No, sir
 "When you questioned the comnis- toners were they under oath?' NO, sir
 Did you communicate the result of he meeting with Mayor-elect Studley?" his was objected to and the objection vas sustained.
 Did you ever say that the commits toners were incompetent and unfaith. ul to the duties Of their officer" "No sir"
 Did you ever say that the require 1ents of the public demanded their re- loval?"
 "No, sir.' "Did vou iccua yvrittan c11r1r3nps l