The San Francisco call., 1901-10-17

due respect as a deputy on the floor of this
house. l wholly object to having the courtesy
to the House of Bishops interfere with the alb
solute freedom of this house. l therefore do
not feel there is any courtesy that prevents
me from voting on any message from elsewhere.
Now, l want to say why l would advise
some of us who don't want to have the name of
the church changed to vote for this motion.
The committee will not be census takers They
Will simply do this: They will be the means
whereby there will be persistent discussion of
this thing for three years Now you say tina.
that is lamentable. l concur with you but
how far more lamentable would 1t be If there
was no discussion. 1t Will be fostering sore.
Therefore had better open 1t and let It
run-let 1t run. would therefore advise those
who think 1T is q bad method to vote for 1T"
Rev. DR.. spauldlng OF Alabama urged the
reference of the matter to the proposed CON-
mission, saying that this question was coming
up and had to be faced.
The Rev DR.. Alsop of Long Island agreed
with Dr. Parks in protesting against the idea
that their action was to be coerced in the
name of courtesy due to the House of Bishops;
the Judgment of the Bishops
Deputy Buxton of North Carolina offered
substitute to inform the Bishops that the depu-
ties decline to appoint their part of the pro-
posed commission because it did not deem it
expedient to keep the subject alive. This was
ruled out of order, because the same result
would be had from vote Of non-c concurrence.
The vote was taken by orders and dioceses
Rsbons and t 6[ ,n m with the
following vote:
Ayes Noes. Divided.
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The memorial of the diocese of Kansas,
as missionary district was brought to the at
tention Of the house by a deputy. who asked
to have it dropped from the calendar
strenuous objection to such action. He de-
livered strong speech in favor of the adop-
ton Of the majority report of the committee
I'VE are not cutting off desert to burden
the church. but ask for the Episcopal super
vision because the church has grown We
have 100000 of people and great many are
ready to receive the administration of the
church The Bishop of Kansas has offered to
apportioned to him. All we ask for is S14C0
more and Episcopal supervision. This is not
a cry OF distress, but request for something
said: "iofu ioiioeo anu ih part
sas feel 1t my duty to speak Just a mo-
ment on this subject. I would like to say that
We of Western Kansas realize the necessity Of
petitioned this convention to give US the de-
sired help and we have thought that nothing
would help US so much as the supervision Of a
missionary Bishop. You heard, the night be-
fore fore last. I think it was, of the opportunities
Cuba. And can indorse what was said by the
good Bishop of Pennsylvania In regard to the
opportunities lost to the church In Cuba as
was there and heard DR.: Nelson speak almost
the island of Cuba. And feel If we do not do
something for the church In Western Kansas
we will regret it. as we are letting opportuni-
ties slip there. II you give US a Bishop for
Western Kansas 1t won't be very many years
before we will give you back diocese
The majority and minority reports were then
read by the secretary. The Rev, DR.. Greer
arose to a point Of order. He submitted that
under the constitution the matter was In the
hands Of the House of Bishops. The chair did
not hold this opinion and the debate continued,
Mr.. Randall of Maryland a member Of the
committee on new dioceses followed, and spoke
in favor of aiding Kansas
DR.. Alsop: chairman of the committee. arose
to a question of privilege and charged that
Mr.. Randall had not given fair statement of
the case
The Rev. DR. Nolan closed further discussion
by moving that the house take further con-
sideration of the subject this morning. Before
an adjournment was taken number of mes
sages from the House Of Bishops were read.
The first informed the deputies that the
House Of Bishops had adopted canon to dis
cipline ministers who abandon their churches
The next message asked for committee on
conference to discuss section 3, article Of the
constitution. The committee will consist of
the Bishops Of Albany and Vermont, the Rev
Dr. Edgar. the Rev Dr. Roberts and Judge
Stiness
ANOTHER message informed the deputies that
the Bishops had not concurred in certain