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The San Francisco call., 1901-10-10
DEFENDS THE REPORT.

The Rev. DIR. Carey of Albany on behalf Of
me-, sne commission 1a OF which he is a member.
ing in the course of his speech a history OF
the commission and its work, and detailing
the methods pursued by it in arriving at its
result. He pleaded earnestly and forcibly
for the adoption of the report
Mr.. Russell of North Dakota followed and
said in part:
1T is accorded to delegate from a mis-
sionary district to have a voice in the deliber-
ations of the church 1t is not given to him
to have vote, however. I come before YOU
this afternoon as a delegate from North Da-
kota, where thirtv years Of my life has been
spent l come to earnestly ask you gentle
men of the convention to give us these mar
sinal references that the commission appoint
ed IN 20 has presented to us. / sincerely ap-
peal to you that you will accept the decision
of the House Of Bishops and let these mar
be placed in the hands of those people who
are scattered along the prairies and who will
take hold OF them with eagerness."
The Rev. DR.. Eccleston Of MARYLAND said.
mo one feels more than do the need for
some relief where this report proposes to give
while sympathizing profoundly with my breth-
rem who ask for It, If we are driven to vote
on the first proposition some of us will be
1t is because we vote the line of Dr.
Mann's amendment but cannot on the other
that we have asked its consideration No
one has any more respect for these gentle
men that /; no one wishes to acknowledge
their worth more than do. No matter what
is done with that report L expect to keen N
in bound form within my reach I know
many others who will do so, and are glad to
have It. But when 1t comes to saving that
a matter which required the careful study
of seventy men, all acknowledged to be ex-
perts, for over twenty years, and then to take
the work Of men acknowledged to be the hest
experts and which did not take three 7 suh
nit that our hesitation-I do not say refusal
is not without ground, to give these men carte
blanche to go
1.-The expression, marginal reading IL mis-
leading; 1t is something more than mar1jneI
reading. Who is ready to say that the ta~t
of the Old Testament is in condition for e1
perts to come here and ask to accent thai
work blindly, unless they will take the tsxt
OF which we have all been talking the 49,
on which the revision was made In 1se1
known as the Canterbury revision? That =
exactly what we want you to take .si -
you, you ready to accept not marei-a1
readings. but textual corrections; it is noSa
confusion"
Lay Delegate Richard H. Battle NJ MAIL
Carolina arose to point of order at tbis tt III
He contended that under the rules Of +he
house the substitute offered by the ReI- SHs
Crawford, which had been ruled out oS ordo. 1T
was in order. ei'
Chairman Lindsay replied that II w.s 1T.
intention to permit the resolution tn coroo W ms
fore the house for action. DIR. Hickmsn ~
come up at the same time. DR. IJndssH a.
answer to the question stated that as 80 ~
ter of equity 1t should come before the bonse
that both resolutions would be introducsd 49,
it for the convention to say whether tbaS
Continued to Page Four
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DISCUSSION ON MARGINAL
READINGS ENDS ABRUPTLY
Closes Debate and Matter
Laid on Table.

Upon the House of Deputies reconvening yes
terday afternoon Chairman Lindsay announced
that business before the body was the resump-
ton Of the discussion Of the report on marginal
readings.
Rev. DIR. Mcconnell moved that vote be
taken on the subject at $3.50 p. m. DR..
Spalding said 1t was hardly desired to
limit the action or consideration OF this
matter, which, he said. was most impor-
tant, and that it had not come before the
house before he thought unlimited discussion
should be permitted. The Rev. DR.. Carl E.
Grammer DID,, of South Virginia followed in
the same vein. He said he was not in favor
of closing the debate soon
The Rev. DR.. Talbot made an amendment to
the motion that a vote be taken at o'clock
DR.. Mcconnell accepted the amendment and
it became the original motion. The Rev. DR..
McKim of the Washington diocese offered as
an amendment to the amendment that the vote
be taken at o clock
A delegate from New Hampshire closed the
subject by making a motion to lay the whole
matter on the table. 1t was so voted.
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FAvoRS PROPOSED REVISION.

The Rev. DR.. Hart of Colorado ex-
pressed himself as being in favor of ac-
cepting the report of the commission on
the marginal readings. He said:
Somebody here has said he is opposed to
everybody putting out a Bible. 1 not.
/ use and 1t is the best Bible know of. one
that was provided by Plymouth Brother in
England about fifty years ago.
In one respect only would he suggest an
Improvement Of the work Of the commits
sion, the speaker said, viz, by introduce
ing in place of LORD and God the
word jehovah wherever it finds it's
place in the original. 1t was, he said
the word of salvation which was the pivot
upon which the Word of God turns.
The Rev. DR.. Crawford of Virginia
then addressed the house, in part saying
heard somebody say that they do not want
a Protestant Episcopal Bible. Well. If the
Anglican church is not to produce new
Bible 1 would like to know what church is
to do it The Roman church can't do it.
Sixtus VI put upon them the Vulgate and
he put upon them the anathema If they un-
dertook to touch it. There are a thousand
mistakes in the Vulgate, and If any of the
bows in the form over which presided had
made those mistakes ]. would have caned him.
The Vulgate can't be touched by the Catholic
church. Then who is to give to the church
an amended and hetter explanation of the
Bible? Why, the home Of all Biblical learning
or very nearly all, is the Anglican church.
and the Protestant Episcopal church of this
country has had little share in throwing
those illuminations which the textual critics
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reading which I hold in my hand acts pre-
cisely in that way
The speaker illustrated this by the citation
OF specific passages, and concluded:
L submit that, as there is no Anglican
church and in the American church that it is
a limitation of our Liberty to ask US TO take
such report as this for apart altogether
from these enendations made by this conven-
tion seven-eighths of all the changes made are
simply excerpts from the report of 1881 and
1856"
He proposed in conclusion the following sub
stitute for the pending resolution:
Resolved, The House of Bishops concurring
that the revised version set forth by the con-
vocations and the report in A d. 1881 and A
D. 1885 Is hereby authorized for alternative use
by the ministers of this church for the pub
lie services of the church.
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DISCUSS MARGINAL READINGS.

The Rev. Dr. Greer of New York called
for the order of the day on the marginal
readings and the matter was at once
taken up.
The secretary, Rev. DR.. Hutchins, then
read the message received from the House
Of Bishops on the subject of marginal
readings, which was to the effect that the
upper house had adopted the report Of the
special committee on marginal readings
the e Pubcatien of the Revised SCRIPT scrptu&es 1ma
The Rev. DR.. Mann of Missouri dis
cussed the report Of the special committee
and paid a tribute TO the magnitude of the
work. He was not in favor of accept
ing the entire report of the commission,
as recommended by that body and pre-,
sented the following amendment:
Resolved. That this house concur with mes
so ss TO read as follows: Resolved, that the
marginal readings reported to this General Con-
venton by the joint commission appointed in
1895 and reappointed in 1s9S to make such re-
port in far as such readings taken from
the margin OF the authorized version, from the
text and margin of the English revised YER
sion and from the text and margin of the Amer
lean revised version, are hereby adopted and
allowed for use by the ministers of this church
the lessons read morning and evening
prayer.
The proposer of the amendment hoped
that the resolution of the commission
would not prevail. He said:
hope this house will not accept this entire
report on the marginal readings to the Scrip
lures when IL is remembered that the body
has made changes which the original trans
lators. the English revisers and the American
revisers have not made.
The Rev. DR.. McKim of Washington
said:
The proposal to touch the holy Scriptures all
ways arouses deep feeling. The early trans
latons were greeted with opposition, and st
jerome said: In vain is Tyre played in the
presence of an ass" The report of the COM
mission will be received with all respect and
gratitude. The commission proposes to give
the people the best results of the study of
scholars Certain verses in the Scriptures are
not to be found in the original record and
some translations are quite incorrect. l think
however, that the commissioners have made a
mistake in presenting here a large number of
corrections and alterations made by them
| selves. 1 not prepared to accept the
changes made by small commission. Their
| duty was to gather data and not to give III
! their own opinions on certain things.
CRITICIZES THE COMMISSION.
The reverend speaker then quoted a
! number Of the proposed alterations sug-
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MEssAGFs FROM THE BISHOPS.

III ES0AGES EhOM I6E BlSdOES.
The hour of adjournment having been
reached the chair announced that the fol-
lowing messages from the House of Bfsh-
ops would be read:
Notifying the deputies that it had adopted
a resolution for the appointment of a joint
committee, according to title g. canon 8. to
nominate seven persons to serve trustees
of the fund for the relief of the widows and
orphans Of deceased and disabled clergymen.
its part of the committee being the Bishops of
Colorado and West Missouri
That it had adopted the following resolu-
tom.
Resolved, the House of Deputies concur
ring, that a joint committee be appointed,
consisting of five Bishops, five presbyters and
five laymen. to take the whole subject of
sideration; to ascertain as nearly possible
the minds of church people in general con-
cerning it. and to make a report at the next
General Convention, with such suggestions as
may commend themselves to their judgment.
and that the House of Bishops had appointed
members of said committee on its part the
Bishops Of Missouri, New Jersey, West Vir-
ginia, Pittsburg and Ohio.
The deputies concurred in this action of
the Bishops. "
The House Of Bishops also by message
notified the deputies that 1t had adopted
resolution concurring with the action
of the latter in selecting Boston as the
place of meeting Of the next General Con-
vention.
The session Of the house was then ad-
journed until D. m.
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PROHIBITS
REMARRIAGE
House Of Bishops
Passes Canon
36.

NE of the most important pieces
~ fof church legislation considered
81 by the House of Bishops az -
present session is canon Sc, re-
lating to the solemniZation Of
marriage and the prohibition
of remarriage of divorced per-
sons, which was adopted yesterday by
vote of 81 to 29. The debate on the sub
ject was long and interesting. This canon
will come up for discussion in the House
of Deputies to-day, and from the senti-
ments of many members it is thought the
measure will not be concurred in
This canon has long been under cOnsid-
Grafton by the clerics and laity. 1t has
been advocated for many years Commit
tees were appointed by both houses at the
ninth trie1nial convention, which held
joint sessions and framed amendments to
the canon. These committees reported
day the House of Bishops took action,
and to-day the deputies will in all prOba-
bility follow it's example.
MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE.
The canon passed is as follows:
The solemnization of matrimony in this
church is a service in which the mutual con-
life is given in the presence OF a minister, who,
having pronounced them in the Name of the
Holy Trinity to be man and wife, invokes the
divine blessing upon their union.
In the solemnization Of matrimony the min
tain and to observe the law of the State gov
erning the civil contract of marriage in the
place where the service shall be performed
No minister shall solemnize the marriage OF
any person, who under the law Of the place OF
marriage is not free to marry without the
consent of parent OF guardian, unless the parent
or guardian Of such minor is present and con-
senting. shall have given written consent to
The marriage. or is permanently resident in A
foreign country
No minister shall solemnize a marriage except
In the presence of at least two witnesses. nor
in case the parties are unknown to the minister
without the presence Of witnesses to whom the
parties are personally known. unless in the
judgment OF the minister it shall be imDracti-
cable to obtain such witnesses
Every minister shall without DELAY fornal1v
record In the proper register the name, age and
residence OF each party Such record shall be
signed by the minister who performs the cere-
mony, and, II practicable, by the married mar
ties and by at least two witnesses OF the mar
riage. ~ maj
No minister shall soIemnize n
marriage. between any two DerSOua
unless nor until by inquiry he shan
nave satisfied himself that neifher
person Is the husband or the We
OF any other person then living or
mas been the husband or the wife
OF any other person then living.
unless the former marriage was an
nulled by decree of some civil
court of competent jurisdictfOn for
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ough criticism The second objection was that
the proposed changes lack authority in weight
of scholarship. The third was that they would
be an obstacle to the missionary operations of
too large an element of Interpretation and COM
ment In many of the proposed readings for
them to be called accurately a transaction
numerous questions asked DIR. Gram
mer at the close of his argument. He said he
was not criticising the committee a whole,
but only portions of its report.
The Rev. DR.. Spalding of Alabama then took
the platform and said in part:
Il am almost afraid that taking the plat
form Will incline me to a speech, but l will
arose simply to urge the division of the whole
question. l would like to have what Dr. Gram
mer has been discussing come before to
what goes in the marginal reading.
If we settle it should go into the mar
gin. Then l think separate question should
allowed to read that in the lessons in the place
OF the King James text, whether he should
bring IT forward as the command Of the church
In the way OF commentary; that these mar
ginal readings would not be the individual
commentary OF some learned man, but would
be the authorized commentary by the council
of this church, and when those points have
been discussed then l think we should come
TO nnal action on the whole matter. This mat
ter should be adopted separately and in
order 1 have heard here that certain words
were blank to certain laymen. I never found
any difficulty in eXpounding the word of God
to the ordinary layman l think very little
instruction on the part of the clergy will IA
l have heard expounded in modern slang.
don't think the sacredness of the word can
De preserved In any such way as that and
would rather as far I am concerned, make
use of the wisdom Of this committee and all
other committees and preserve the text that
has been sacred to Anglican life.
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Es DISCUSSED CANON ON MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE.
Learned Theoogan Discuss Changes the Holy Book
Commend the Committee for Its Faithful Services

gested by the commission and some hilar-
ity was caused by the reading. Contlnu'
ing, the speaker said;
These changes I have quoted were made on
the responsibility of the commission. II the
amendment is adopted there VIII 9s no no I;II 1UTI
TO the work of the commission. Inere VIII ~
he no loss if we read possessed by devils
instead of possessed by evil spirits there the
will he no loss if continue to read the
fsh's belly for 1.-The whales belly; we shall
NOT be doing wrong by continuing to read east
down to hell' for cast Gown ,n9srstand 10 tne Ger
tain Greek translations that have been mace: cle:
If we adopt the report OF the coInnHssion we
shall be introducing a Protestant EplScoPal
RibIe want something more catholic hear
that there are many different versions OF the
Bible in use. I opposed to the introductlon
INTO that number of a Protestant Episcopal
one.
The Rev. DR.. Waterman Of New
Hampshire, in discussing the SUBJECT
said:
One of the great arguments IN favor OF a
work like this rather than the adoption or
either the Canterbury revision or the Amerl-
can revision, lies In this: 1t was SAID very very
freely and frequently of the Canterbury revision
when IL first came out that 1t was admirable
for scholars but 1t was not good after all tor
the common people; admirable as commeh-
tary not good for the lectern. 1 take II that
sny company of scholars meeting together to
do a work of this kind must necessarily, 20
be honest and true with themselves, Drins IN IN
great many more corrections than any OF
them would ever think of reading In public.
l myself certainly have voted for great many many
more of these marginal readings than should
ever think of using in public reading In ehurch
nevertheless, / believe 1t to be my DUTY IN
taking part in work like this TO vote on the
general principle of always voting for what
/ believe to be accurate statement OF what
was really the work of all.
On the other hand. in reading the Scriptures
in church, 1 should think 1t was not worth
while to use more than a very Few OF such
nassages NV own belief is that in practical
use, IL this were adopted, we should come
very soon to use only very small portion
of these numerous readings in church at all.
Suppose for instance there are 500 of these
marginal readings marked &C." of which you
disapprove of 400. You don't have to use them.
suppose for instance, you disapprove of the
change from generation of vipers' to brood
Of vipers," you need not use it in public read
may use Il. Is there any harm done?
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of the land have given the people to help them
in the use Of the Word of God. think it will
be distinguishment of this convention If only
1t will adopt the report marginal readings
that the commission has put forth.
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AFTERNOON DEBATE BEGINS.

The Rev. DR.. Grammer of Southern Virginia
opened the afternoon debate on the subject,
pleading for the resolution Of the Rev. DR..
Mann, four considerations. The first was
esthetic. King James version had become so
entrenched in the affections Of the people that
it should not be changed until the superiority
and necessity of the substitution were made
apparent after the most careful study and thor
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MARGINAL READINGS
ARE PARTLY ADOPTED
House Of Deputies Acts Favorably on
the Subject After an Inter-
esting Debate.

touching the securing of a hall for the
meeting and not a church, was referred
to the local committee without recon-
mendation.
A resolution by Deputy M F. Gilbert of
Springfield, that amendments to the
constitution should not take effect until
referred to the committee on amend
mentS.
A resolution from the committee on cleo
tions, recommending that ]. H. Cammel of
West Michigan be seated a deputy in
place of w. R. Shelly, who is absent, was
referred to a committee.
On motion of the Rev. DR.. AlsoD of
Long Island the house proceeded to take
up report No. 2 of the committee on
canons, relating to the election and
translation of missionary bishops The
bishop is translated, after five years ser
vice, to an organized diocese, he shall not
lose jurisdiction of the missionary dis
trict
The canon was explained by the Rev
DR.. Davenport of Tennessee in answer to
questions propounded by the Rev. DR..
Fulton Of Pennsylvania.
A series of cross-Questions and answers
between the two clerical deputies followed
and Deputy George F. Lewis of Iowa
spoke against the adoption of the report
Lewis moved to amend the report and
have it voted upon in two parts. but this
was ruled out of order by the chair.
The Rev. Dr.. Henry of Iowa moved to
add the words "coadjutor bishop to the
resolution, thus providing that a CO.
adjutor bishop be protected equally with a
bishop in the matter of translation from
a missionary district to an organized do
cese.
The Rev. DR.. Parks of New York moved
to lay the amendment on the table, which
was done.
At this point of the proceedings the
Rev. DR.. Lindsay was obliged to leave the
chair, being called away on business, and
the gaYel was placed in the hands of
Judge Stiness of Rhode Island.
A number of motions, resolutions and
amendments were presented at this point,
all relating to the translation of bishops
from missionary districts to organized
dioceses, but the tangle was settled by re-
ferring the entire question back to the
committee on canons.
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Continued to Page Four.
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The reverend speaker then quoted a
number of the proposed alterations sug-
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ID HERE was large attendance
of members of the House Of
4 Deputies when that body Of the
Episcopal Convention resumed
its sitting yesterday morning.
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PERSONAL MENTION.

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terday
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Captain A. l.. Peasc was down from
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Walter Jackson Is down from Port.
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Harry Il Hamblet and Peter Grant
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