Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1901-10-12

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methods OF the past" He further said;
paul Is forced TO make a statement
that is altogether gratultous" We
pointed out these statements and asked
what he had TO ofier TO the world, in
any way superior or more perfect than
the methods and teachings OF Christ
and Of Paul He makes no reply. but
says he did not use the terms dip
PANTY" is that sample OF twist
ing" or Of "turning?'
Here is the case in brief; Rev. A. G,
Andrews took the ground that Divine
heallngs could be had now as In times
of old, through faith and prayer to
God, The News" endorsed that posi-
ton, Rev, w. H. Bagby denied this,
and argued that these heavenly gifts
were done away, citing in support Of
his contention the words OF Paul, in
this way.
Paul tells us plainly that the super
natural powers which characterized
! the Infancy Of the Church would cease,
and pointed out definitely the time
when they would cease. Whether there
| be prophecies they shall be done away
whether there be tongues, they shall
cease; whether there be knowledge (su-
pernaturaD, it shall be done away" l
Cor 10: s."
Now II Paul tells us plainly" and
points out definitely the time when
they would cease, what language does
he use so plainly and definitely as to
that timo2 We quoted the words OF the
Apostle which Mr.. Bagby left out Here
they are;
"For we know In part, and we
prophesy In part. But when that which
is perfect is come, then that which is
in part shall be done away"
Does 1t not follow that these gifts,
which Paul says God placed In the
Church were not intended to cease
until that which Is perfect is Gomez
And dld not Paul further explain that
whon perfection should come in his
own case he would Know even also as
he was known" Is II not clear that the
knowledge In part and the prophesylng
in part and the rest OF the gifts mem
toned were to continue until we shall
no longer "sec through q glass darkly
but face to face?" And is II not like
twisting and turning" 10 try to make
the contrary appear?
But Mr.. Bagby quotes Paul's alleged
depreciation" OF the gift Of tongues, to
aid him in his evasion of the question,
when did the Church come to per-
lection or become full-grown?' But
that does not help his cause one whit.
We are fully In accord with the Apos-
tie as TO the relative value of the gifts
Of the Gospel But because one gift
is better than another. does that prove
that they are all or any OF them done
away" After all that Paul said as to
his preference, he closes the chapter
portion Of which Mr. Bagby so evas-
lively cites. with these words;
Wherefore. brethren, coyet to proph-
esy, and forbid not to speak with
tongues Let all things be done decent
ly and In order"
There again is where the Apostle Paul
and MIR. Bagby directly disagree. Paul
advises the brethren to "coyet to proph-
esy and forbid not to speak with
tongues His opponent treats such
gifts as kindergarten methods" and
says they passed away with the In
fancy of the Church" Paul says those
gifts Of the spirit were constituent parts
Of the body, and that one could not say
to the other II have no need OF thee"
But Mr. Bagby rejects them all as mo
longer needed" and jumps to the con-
clusion that because one gift Is prefer
able to another. the lesser is to be re-
jeeted as useless
Now as to Christ's doctrine Of heal
Ing by faith. II Mr.. Bagby's notion is
true, that the purpose OF signs and
healings and miracles was to produce
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how was II that the people who wit
messed them were the very unbellevers
who rejected Him and caused Him TO
be crucihed? Why is 1t stated that in
His own country where He marvelled
because Of their unebief," "He could
do there no mighty work2' Why when
He was asked, what sign shew-
est thou" did He answer: 1T
is an evil and an adulterous gem
Grafton that seeketh after a sign!'
What did He mean when He told the
centurion, whose servant He healed,
AS thou hast believed, so be II done
unto thee2" Why did He charge peo-
pie whom He healed, See thou tell
no MANI" What did He mean by asking
the blind men who came TO Him: Be
lieve ye that am able 20 do this? They
said unto Him, Yea, Lord Then
touched He their eyes saying: Accord
Ing to your faith be ii unto YOU
Matth. TX, $780, What did He mean
by telling His disciples, And all things
whatsoever ye ask In prayer believing,
ye shall receiver" Matth, xxi, ,22,
Healing the sick through the prayer
Of faith was part Of the mission OF
Chrlsts disciples. just as much as
preaching faith, repentance and bap-
tism. When did Christ authorize any
change? When did the doctrine that
'all things are possible to him that be-
lleveth" become untrue? We said tina,
Christ attributed the manifestations Of
the healing power to the faith Of those
who received It's benefits. There Is no
need for US TO repeat the many in
stances In which the Savior told those
who were healed. Thy faith hath made
thee whole" Mr.. Bagby says In most
cases their faith was made TO play
a part. Jesus aid not say at any time
that II was merely "a part"
II is true. however, that sometimes
faith was exercised by others. In be-
half Of the sick. and they were healed