The sun., 1901-03-18
SCORING BY GOLF TEAMS:
VIEWS or MANY II. 9. A. PLAYERS ON
THR DIFFERENT SYSTEMS.

THE DIFFERENT 1HSIkAS.
,.,,.a op,nions on the Three ? sint Plan and
IL. Usefulness -Menxiss and sinssr Uphold
the Old Method ST. Patrtck's Day On the
Links Of tho Crescent Athlete Club.
In its aotion regarding team scoring on
,aa Thursday night at the NEE ting In tho
rron Club, the Executive Committee Of the
NC A went as far as II could under the
limited power II has In the matter. by 40
c.rting the report Of the com mmittee appointed
a, tho annual meeting. Messrs Bruce Price
walter J. Travis. Howard Maxwell and John
weld, Jr The report was.
Your conmttce Is Of the opinion that II 10 unde-
.nbie 10 make any change from the present recog-
ni,d nsthod OF scoring In important team matches.
M, un sugEcsrd that your association recommend
,o;, e bsrs the thrre-pons system interesting
Ard practical ono for scoring in all minor matches.
The report was based on the answ ers to .
circular sent out by Bruce Price. after the
N q A. meeting 10 the captain, Of all
N O. A. clubs In which the three point
system was suggested as q desirable change
from straight hole play. under which the
result vas inv ariably at the mercy Of tho
ooorsst men on the teams. The circular
appeared in THs Sun. on Feb. s. Under
The thr,e-point sy stem. which was nrst tried
At the Nassau Country Club In its members
team matches. the leader at nins holes counts
A point. tho leader at eighteen holes point.
and TO yin the match counts point. Three
"a the most that may be made. II has been
rss,rdsd a. an improveme on the system
accounting one point for each winning match.
brought out In 1897 by tho Tuxedo club.
~ a. al,
contendsd that its system should bs used In
matches Of special significance. whether
International intercounty or intercity. which
are rnes Mt TO be test Of the quality or stand
ard OF golf In the opposing camps back OF
each team The report OF Mr. Prioe and bis
tsLlov committeeman Is practically an 40
81 suppressing the full SCORE In such big
matches In adv ising the three-point system
FOR minor matches. tho committee has fol-
loved Tho conception OF the clubmen of Mas
.au and Tux edo and for tho same reason
that It enhances tho enjoyment in friendly
contests
The opinions Of the twenty -three NJ; O. A.
captains or their representatives, who an
svered the circular make most Interesting
reading. for zach has told what he thinks
"a suaishtforward way and quite regard
less ~ hos tho other captains may feel on
the subject. The opinions are too long to
quote IN fu.l, but the spirit OF each Is shown
In thl, summary Of the answers
v henziee. Seabright Golf Club-The
ihfpe-y point system does not appeal TO me.
ai, IA inclined 10 lessen the dignity Of the
real ma tch by dividing II into two small con-
tests / am o, . ~cd to any change In the
sy-tarn o. SCORING IN team matches, as be-
leyc the present system is the best all round
II Il were found that an alteration Was really
peoessary l should favor that under which
each win ming member Of the team received
three points for winning his match, 20 which
~ ffAl ~ hplpa nv ha
won
Mortimer NJ Singer, Fox Hills Golf Club
In ny opinion the old way Of scoring il
the most satisfactory. After all, these club
con'ests are from first 10 last team match,
and II Is only proper. therefore, that the
t"ams.rror FIRST man to last man. should be
pf'ed against one another. each hole count
!rp For example, take football match.
Here. Il We have weak tackle on one side.
rs opposing team Immediately sizes up tho
situation snd directs their play against this
tnclle. Also in baseball game II there
is weak second basemsn most OF the hits
vii 20 in his direction. Now, therefore,
In team match why should not the weakest
PLAYER on a sdc penalize his whole team by
his inability 70 turn in low score? IL would
seem 20 mo that IL ~ case where might
mases right, and while the Nassau system
m1Ans An interesting contest / do not think
Il Is quite "a fair and thorough test Of real
v Aiston Flsgg Morris County Golf
Club-I am heartily In favor OF that system
,rthUr Kinds. Rich mond Hill Golf Club
N rk hat the hole play system OF scoring
tam matches is unsatisfactory and is quito
i7nonclusiye II the object o? the team match
( to test tho strength of the team as a whole
i is also particularly disa ppointlnC TO every
WITH the classic idea "lct the best team win "
Y,lr suggested three point system strikes
wA fHvorahly. and requires no reasoning
to appreciate that the player Is more likely
= Do his. best and therefore will be more
-cv on his mettle who knows
Frst-That by winning the first nine holes
h may est1b blish one point in favor OF his
lalm ono point by winning the second nine.
VII 10 he may win three points for his team
.r l'adtng at the end of each separate nine
second II he does establish point.
~ two points, or aven three points IN favor
o. h.a team through doing his very best in
o9losition ~ n worthy antagonist his work
% mot at the very worst, he any more than
nwr"gl2ed through any one "duner" losing
...r han the same number OF points
c,n.rqrted with the hole,play system by
With lhis same "dufYcr" by losing all ei gh cen
. L., may wholly wipe out the triumph Of
d. team. evory other member OF which, "a
orsu hIIpens, may have held his antagonist
e. 'Guart. or gained or lost by only "a hole
o v Bird, Meadow Brook ,Club-Favor
- point systam Have In mind a match
'nr' vas won for one toam by one Of Its poor
e.t-ultving members beating his opponent
w Il rp. whcu, as matter OF fact; the real
t'-'nd, who would have won under the three
W Putnam. Shinnecock Hills Gof
Cub Personally | am In favor Of the point
= o Schuyler Richmond County Country
Clb EMinonty fair and just, tho point
4 wright Post Somerset Hills Country
Cuh II Is fairer to score by the point sys-
', 'h,n in any other way p-,,,o,o. ~.
s-r.m /, excellent as far as il goes. but TO
Ur mind does not give enough credit 70
nan who was one or two down AZ the ninth
hn" md finished the match three or four
~ The end Of the MATCH is fs more i'm
Inn'nt 'hnn. anything that might happen
william 9 ddle. Marine and Field Club
7h. H tom IS about the best that can be
cef.,et
.fHuNms Van Brnt, Crescent A c.
g4 loartly in favor OF the system YOU
a.rD'l'r The old way IL manifestly unfair
4 NHr f"9m had a sample Of this two years
=, rNh mo Nassau Country Club In match.
Two o' our regular team failed 20 show up
h"o "a Iu' iu two OF our club members who
at.,'."i 10 DO az Nassau for the day Each
VS. ."1ten y up, which showed us under.
Tor ''r regular team won ny up ] know
.lu '"l OF similar cases
So. any- VI wilson. Englewood Golf Club
N'.' have no actual experience Of the
,Hhng or The three point system. I think
y srUnds feasible The perfect system
,.'. -rike q happy medium, one that
.i give a playcT'S team the benent OF
.' 'k.. but not enough to upset the total
'u'.t horhmrycr, Harbor Hill Golf Club
.H " ..I,.ng the question we must boar
' 'N'uI the chief diNCulty Il the -d1ner
'' nor thlnk u would be wise TO change
'r'''rm"i scoring IN important representa-
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