New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1901-10-06
MAY CHANGE SHIPPERS.
| SIR THOMAS Upton FAvORS THE PRO-
POSAL FOR ANOTHER RACE.
WAITING FOR A PROPOSITION FROM THE
COLUMBIA'S EPTION
FOR sHAMROCK's OWNER


coLUMBIAs MANAGERS RECEPTION
FOR sHAMRoCK's OWNER.
| A number of New-York Yacht Club members
have said in regard TO the winning of the Ameri-
| cas- Cup. that the honor was almost much
due to the ability of the Coumbia's skipper,
| Captain Barr. as to Nat Herreshoff, the de-
signer This touches point which neither all
Americans nor all English ready to admit
Yet ii is known that many of the best experts
hold the same view. and the proposal of The
Daily Express of England, as telegraphed to
| Sir Thomas Upton and Commodore Morgan,
| that they arrange with the Columbia's
crew and skipper board the Shamrock, and
the English skipper and crew on board the chal
| lenger has been accepted a pleasing
Another arrangement has been suggested for
the racing of the two Cup yachts. This is to put
the advisory skipper, Robert Wringe, the
Shamrock, and let Barr remain where he is, on
the Columbia. Every Person in the yachting
fraternity at New-York IS acquainted with the
ability of Wringe racing skipper, and his
! continuously smart work when he was winning
nearly everything for August Belmont on the
Mineoia last year caused much admiration.
SHAMROCK AT ERIE BASIN
1t is now therefore among the possibilities
that the Columbia and the Shamrock may race
-o--'
from Sandy Hook through the Narrows yester-
day TO the Erie Basin, preceded by the Column
bia, which will wait at City Island until further
orders. Before the Shamrock left her Sandy
Hook anchorage, Sir Thomas Upton went
ABOARD and had Captain Sycamore call all hands
on deck Then Sir Thomas addressed them
thanking them for their loyalty and good work
through the races, and for their steady be-
haVior The mainsail was then unbent and the
yacht started for the Erie Basin. The Erin will
for the present anchor in the North River off
West Thirty-ffth-st
In discussing the proposal Of another race Sir
Thomas sad II am anxious to promote the in
terest OF this sport and If days proposal will
prove anything, then / say by all mems Ia, rs
race with my crew on the Columbia and the
1ahhee crew on the Shamrock. I am waiting
Ior proposition from the other side II is
N' .ne'" W say IL they want ii race under these
ooho'iohs' hope the Columbia's managers
VIII think favorably of the suggestion to change
Shippers and crews and race. Such plan has
my hearty approval"
Sir Thomas received yesterday the usual for
MAJ notice of the club concerning the outcome of
the America Cup races, which was as follows.
:, Slr: we have TO inform you that the Columbia
mas won three out of five from Shamrock
Club. "'''' '''o f'o'a' ulster hacht
The Americas Cup therefore, remains with the
s. NICHOLSON KANE.
CHESTER 1kIsfI Err GRIsWoLD.
Regatta COMMITTEES.
When asked whether he would challenge again
for the Americas Cup. Sir Thomas replied:
Where am l 10 get boat that will beat
Herreshofs? Tell me that, and I'll tell YOU
what I'll do. Can such a craft he had for love
or money? I don't really know yet what will
do about another challenge but at present can
say that have no plans yet matured"
Sir Thomas came the Erin to the North
River anchorage last evening, and he will re-
main on board for Few days until he goes to
Chicago. where he is to be a guest at a dinner
IN his honor
CHALLENGER TO STAY HERE
1t was decided some time ago that the Sham
rock should not be returned TO England this
fall. but would be laid up after her final racing
in this country. notice was sent out about q
fortnight ago saying that arrangements had
been made with New-London shipyard TO have
the yacht laid UP there. In any case. it is said
TO be practically decided to have the yacht raced
In this country next spring against the Co.
lumbia and the Constitution.
The Shamrock has the right to sail without
request In the Astor Cup races and in all the
New-York Yacht Club contests and cruise runs
and she is In the position to be able also to
chalehee ior the Brenton Reef Cup. which is
now held by the yawl Navahoe owned by ROYAL
Phelps Carroll
The announcement that the Shamrock and the
Columbia might meet again before the close of
this season. and possibly under exchanged or
different shippers. was hailed with delight by
many yachtsmen yesterday
At the New-York Yacht Club yesterday S
Nicholson Kane was asked about a published
statement that the Shamrock in her last race
: i
about this. and said My first inclination is to
refuse to make any statement about that But
on behalf of myself and the other members of
the regatta committee will say that 1t is too
preposterous to merit any attention
Secretary j. " S. Odde said yesterday that
he had just received from Sir Thomas I.ipton
his acceptance for the reception To be given in
his honor next Tuesday. and that the affair
which Will take place in the new clubhouse
will be an elaborate one.
Before leaving Sandy Hook yesterday Sir
Thomas Upton. accompanied by Mr. Jameson
and Mr.. Watson. paid farewell visit to Colonel
Burbank and his family at the fort on Sandy
Hook The Erin was saluted by all vessels as
she went to the North River.
| THE BETTING ON THE YACHT RACES
II Is estimated that than $500 900 I'm all was
wagered In Wa-st. the result of the Column
ia-ShamrocS series and the outcome OF the
several races. The largest amount placed by one
man was by l.. III. Brooks.
QUIRINAL FOUNDATION WEAKENED.
PALACE ENDANGERED ny THE CONSTRUCTION OF