The sun., 1901-10-08

IL |, j. not quite fair To tho witness
:. YOU read Il: This rs all the grounds
- Srs has for printing the colloquy
he,ne ah-olutely corr~ct.
II, RSvner I did Rad that. In
tenTpr IT. President You did not. But you
should read It. II should 81 In with the
Ii.,,, Hodg~nn-I gave THE Sun per-
-.t.siNn % o,Iote me "a authority for the
IS. of that statement, and " IHs SUN had
suck 10 that permission the correspondent
ND not have had that trouble, but he
.,,C,.d me A. authority for the definite
Ss"rr.c,ress 81 the dialogue after l had
S,s,ipc,ly told him that he could not do IL.
cArr cHApwIck's REPORTS.
nv Mr. Ravner Only one more question
,hrut that | have the official report of
CAM Chadwick on the examination OF
len, UndrSon. II there II no objection
w'uld like this to g. In evidence, may II
49,. the Court, without my r'ading t
th,s j. an Official report.
In. Judge Advocate-I do not object
b. that c. c......L..
,.-.5rt - Mr. Hudgson's statement regard
49,, "a. cnllouny on the BROOKLYN and when
l." had finished the judge Advocate tined
., tntr,ducr in evidence Capt Chadwick =
r,r,1r' 81 his examination Of lAeutensnt-
,Iun,auder Heilner. the navigator OF
,b. Taxlr, In which that officer asserted
Rat Lieutenant { commander Hodg-on had
t.d him three times of the colloquy ancr
tla' Admiral Schley did say Damn tho
Tex.s lot her look out for herself
Mr. RAyner objected on the ground
,bar II had not been introduced In the direct
examination Of the witness and that when
Mr Hener was on the stand he had not
hy,en asked about the matter. He gave
ASSURANCE 10 the Court that he did not want
a. impeach tho veracity Of Mr.. Hodgron
ant that his only obiection To Capt. Chad
wick's report of Mr.. Hodgson's statement
VA. thnt ne had not stated Ia Capt. Chad
80. damn The TeIa- He said also
that Mr. Heilner was not confronted by
Admiral Schley during the examination
hy Capt Chadwick. and. turning 70 the
applicant, asked
.Nere you present.
rlfA Schley: Il was not Nked to be.
IN Judge Advocate said the objecton
WAS technical and made to avoid getting
all the facts before the court;
Capt Parker of Admiral Schley's counsel
denied this and he and Capt. Lernly e1-
changed few spirited remarks
Mr. Hanna. the Judge Advocate'. assist
ant said he wanted to cay u word being
prompted by the fact that Mr. Rayner
iookea him directly in the face when the
objection was made.
You are 80 pretty that | could not help
boxing at you. eaid Mr. Rayner with a
smile. and Capt. Leniy intefposed WITH
The Court retired to consider the oblec-
tion and when IL returned announced that
the statement Of Capt, Chadwick OF his
examination Of Lieutenant-C commander
Heilner could not be admitted al this time
kEpIRECr ExAMISATIoS or HoDosoN.
After recees Mr.. Hodgson resumed the
stand and his redirect examination began,
Mr. Rayner having announced that the
crues-eIAmination was concluded. Mr.
Hanna, for the Judge Advocate, was stopped
by Mr Rayner when he had asked the very
frut question.
will YOU please state % the Court pro
Cisely why you wrote your categorical
letter Of denial3-
Mr. Rayner held that tho reasons Of the
witness for writing the letter could not
snert Admiral Schley. In the course of
his remarks he said u was admitted that
Admiral sschley published one letter from
the WITNESS and did not publish the other
and this admission gave ri-e TO a htti-
equabble between Mr. RAyner and his col
league Capt Parker. the last-named In
ei.ting that Mr.. Rayner mistaken.
While Mr. Rayner and Mr.. Hanna we're
discussing the QUESTION OF the admSssi-
terr,ip,ed Mr. Hanna.
we have the facts that the letferp wers
written he said i think that u all tho
Court wants We want the facts. People
are influenced by different methods We
DO not want 20 know his motives We
want 20 know the facts. Draw out the
facts. and never mind anything else
If the Court please. | do not want his
motives" said Mr.. Hanna. All l want
q And out Ia what occasioned the writing
Of this letter. I will put II more directly.
The Court does not want that informa-
ton we do not need that. responded Ad-
uiral Dewey.
Mr. Hanna then put the question In this
Wv WAS your categorical denial made
IN response 10 a request therefor by Ad-
miral Schleyi-
DENIAL THAT WAS NOT A DENIAL.
1T was, as I understood the request :
said Mr. Hodgson. Admiral Schley had
written me 20 deny a certain article.
replied 10 Admiral Schey that the gist OF
that article was correct. Admiral Schley
then wrote me that | did not understand
what he wanted exactly, that he wanted
ne 20 write 10 him denial Of the coloquy
lie wrote the that The Sun was endeavor-
ing to promote the idea that n cOntro-
yersy had occurred between him and
nySah at q critical moment OF tho
battle and u was this controversy that he
wtshed denied And having previously
written to Admiral Schley that l could not
eeny what | had Understood him 20 ask
me To deny, the statement as published in
THK SUN his letter following that refusal
q mine for a denial 20 him ~ tho colloquy.
Understood that TO mean simply the diR-
logIe, and a. there had been no colloquy
between the Admiral and myself, or no
controversy, ] wrote 20 him the denial OF
this colloquv or controversy, at the same
time explaining 10 him that | had already
siEi'i..i the gist, what | Understood
to - the gi.t. of that statement
By Mr Hanna Then. a. i understand
you. YOU accompanied your categorical
denial With another letter admitting thai
the facts were substantially a. stated. hut
denyng the controversy. l. that right,
A did
The letter speaks for itself and is of
record interrupted Capt Park.-. You
have no night to ask explanation Of tho
lr,ter The letters are In evidence and the
Court Nil read them and Judge what they
mean. This line OF examination IL inn
proper and hope tho Court will exclude II :
BH the Court ignored the interruption
Bv Mr. Hanna Did yotl. ia any of this
corTesi,ondenca anywhere deny the sub
sAntAl accuracy 81 the facts -e' forth in
1HE SIS intcrview' A | admitted II in
sy~ry letter
y You have heen asked whether you
have uo' somewhere els" referrcd TO this
statement NJ regard 20 tho Texas. this re-
mar M rrgari tu the TeNas hy Commodore
N-h"v. without IN" H.. of the exact Ian
guAse Damn the Texas to which you
hav" testified Hav" YOU ever elsewhere
han iG 'Ni= court stated that language ?
! have uo doubt thai ! have.