The Montgomery advertiser., 1901-07-17

-0U change. I have not heard Anyf1lN adduced in favor of this cbenxe cept that the people are tired ok = tions. But the only way to retain cur liberties is sometimes to set tired n efforts to retain them.
 MT. Macdonald--Is not there an add1~| tional reason that we should save eno cost of an election and the cost q 4 session of the legislature every two years?
 MT. Jones--I understand that is ono of the reasons advocated and the main reason: and we are putting up again9t the cost of a legislature. twenty-nve of: fifty thousand dollars, all of the evils that may happen to the people when they cannot have their Legislative de- partment in session once every two years. Why, Mir. President, we havo been so constrained in our iegislation. the iegislature being absorbed in local matters. electing solicitors and eena- tors. that apparently the people have not been able through their represen- tatives to give attention to grave eco~ homie problems and matters of reform that concern the State and which are not in their nature political.
 The President--The time of the gen. tleman has expired. The gentleman is discussing his amendment.
 MT. Jones--No, sir. am not discues- ing my amendment, the Chair said my amendment was not in order.
 The President--To what point is the gentleman speaking?
 MT. Jones-Generally, against the or dinance. think if the Chair had lis- tened there could have been no doubt in his mind as to what was driving
 The President-The Chair understood the gentleman was advocating his amendment.
 MT. Jones--I beg pardon. but 1t was not my fault that the Chair 'se nisun- derstood. What is the ruling of the Chair?
 The President--There was an amenA- ment pending and the gentleman from MoptGemery offered his amendment.
 MT. Jones-But I understood tho Chair ruled that amendment out of or der.
 The President--The Chair has not ruled but the, Chair is prepared to rule on that question new.
 MT. Jones-If the Chair will pardcn me. when the Chair ruled my amend ment out of order reniArlssd that the amendment could be put on the fioor or anywhere else. did not care about it and that I would speak generally on the section.
 The President--The gentlemen made that statement and with out pausing to await the ruling of the Chair the gen- tleman proceeded to discussion of the amendment. When an amendment is offered and is read before the Conven- ton, 1t is before the Convention for consideration until it Is withdrawn by consent of the House or until it b ruled out of order by the Chair ana the Chair as 6 basis for ruling upon the question asked the gentleman to explain the difference between his amendment and the amendment offered by the gentleman from Mobile. With out making an explanation the gentle man proceeded to a discussion of the question and has consumed ten min utes in the discussion of the amend ment, because the amendment was be- fore the Convention and if he was not discussing the amendment, he was not in order.
 MT. Jones--Then how was the gentle. man from Mobile in order?
 The President-At the time the gen tleman from Mobile was discussing the question. there was no amendment pending.
 Mir. Jones-I submit that I had a right The Chair indicated that nay amendment was not in order and I proceeded then to discuss the main question, saying that the amendment could be put on the floor if the Chnir wished, that I did not care for it. did have the understanding from what the Chair said that my amendment was not in order. but was out of order and was discussing the section generaliys and so stated to the Chair.
 The President-The gentleman from Montgomery stated that his amend ment might be put on the floor. but 1t was not put on the floor, but is on the desk of the Secretary and is now before the Convention until the Chair rules otherwise and it was upon that amendment that the gentleman was addressing the Convention. if he was in order at all.
 Mir. Jones--I beg pardon. thought and said that I would speak upon the main proposition and I started out by saying that I was opposed to it in toto. Upon that there can be no mistake, as the stenogra pher has 1t down. would like to know what the Chair does rule, if am in error.
 The President-The Chair has not ruled upon the amendment at all, but in the opinion of the Chair the amend ment is not in order as it substantially
 
 were embodied in the amendment 0f- fered by the gentleman from Mobfie, and the amendment of the gentleman from Montgomery would net be in or der without taking from the table the amendment offered by the gentleman from Mobile.
 Mir. Jones-Then am I not in order to discuss the general subject and was I not entitled to thirty minutes on that?
 The President--The gentleman may discuss the general question.
 Mr. Oates--I would like to explain as some of the gentlemen do not seem to understand this as we'll as my friend. the gentleman from Montgom- cry. I stated when this section was read that had made the report but was not in accord with it and that the delegate from Mobile In the Committee was the leading man advocating it in it's present shape in regard to holding elections in August; and, therefore, yielded the floor to him 'and he spoke generally in the first piacs.
 MT. Jones--I understood that per fecty well. but understood that the rule of the Convention was that mem- bers had thirty minutes when speak, ing on the general subject.
 MT O'Neal-I cali for the reading of both the amendment offered by tho delegate from Mobile and that offered by the delegate from Montgomery. SC that we may see what. they are. l think there Is some difference.
 M:. Harrlson-I have an amend