New-York tribune., 1901-10-23
SIR THOMAS Upton SAILS.
HOPES FOR RACING BETWEEN THE
SHAMROCK AND AMERICAN BOATS,
AND Is COMING BACK NEXT YEAR

There was no easy way Of counting the friends
who were at the White Star pier to bid goodby
to SIR Thomas Upton yesterday. Up in the top
loft chamber of the huge building they
thronged round the inboard end of the gangway
by hundreds. II coming back soon," said
Sir Thomas. i now one Of the summer
boarders In the United States. l will be here TO
see this years Shamrock sail in whatever races
she may be able TO engage in next summer
Apart from pleasure, have TO be here on busi-
ness"
When asked to say definitely whether he
would have new challenger built for future
racing, he replied:
1T is impossible TO speak definitely about any
thing. 1t is not possible TO say now with GER
tainty that any English designer will under
take to build me a boat that viii beat Shamrock
ii. ] ought 10 have such boat. / would very
much like 10 have such boat, and sometimes
my wishes are printed my intentions when
don't guard my words carefully, and have TO
talk a good deal. If ! could have a new boat
here for a next year you would certainly
find her here. but there are many doubts IN the
way, and ali can say with certainty is that
will meet Mr. Watson and Mr.. Fife as soon as
get home, and will be guided, and in fact con-
trolled by what they or other yacht designers
may have 10 offer"
The suggestion has been made that the first
Shamrock should be raced again for the Cup
next year and The Tribune is authorizes 20 say
that such a challenge race is among the possi-
bilities. II think the proposal is a good one,
said Sir Thomas, "and am glad it was made
because up this time we seemed 10 nave Tor
gotten that the older boat was now again eligi-
BILE for next year. At present as you know,
am chiefly concerned in discovering what can be
done that will be better than racing either OF
the existing boats a second time for the Cup
Sir Thomas looks forward TO the racing or
his Shamrock II with the Constitution and the
Columbia next year. But il is by no means
certain that these vessels in the American 30
foot class will be placed IN commission Ior me me
season of 1902 = D. Morgan, who was the
manager OF the Columbia this year. has SAID;
s'It has never been the custom 10 race cup
sefsn6ers in the off wears They are built for a
specific purpose. and il would be hard TO mo
any one willing TO give up his time Tor season
20 these big craft in an off year
III was Judged from this that Mr.. Morgan
himself would not be the manager or the 20.
,nmbia next year and he added: 1T would
ne ali very well in theory to have races for
the Constitution, the Shamrock ana lhe "
lunbia, but in practice II is another lhIis,
They are huge and expensive affairs TO handle
and race. and / know nothing about any such
races having been arranged. " 1,,,.,er
Duncan jr said about this that the heaa OF
the Constitutions syndicate, August Bellnonl,
would have to be consulted before any eii.iIe .h
could be arranged. and he was not now IN the
UNITED States. - ,,,.
There is no doubt that Sir Thomas wants
racing for his Shamrock ii next year, ana VIII
be disappointed If the owners in the New-1of
Yacht Club do not arrange to have the CON
.tItution and the Columbia in the regular club
traces.
Glasgow, Oct. 22-Sir Thomas Upton. while
ldesiring 10 avoid monopolizing the British side
OF the Americas Cup contests has already taken
a. step toward third contest for the trophy
Captain Robert wringe. who returned here
fron, New-Yorix on the Anchor Line steamer
City Of Rome yesterday, went TO Fairlie and
had a long conference with w. Fife 1r., as TO
whether he would undertake designing a Shath-
rock III for series OF races in l9O2.
II is understood that Mr. Fife was opposed 10
rushing out challenger for lyo2 He eonsid-
cred the time too short to do his best work. but
zyas willing to design a challenger to race IN
the autumn of 1903. No absolute arrangements
can be made until Sir Thomas Upton arrives,
hut there is little doubt that a challenge VIII
be sent. o.-.-
Acting on Mr Fgfe's suggestion. Captain
Wringe went to Gareloch, TO provide for tho
fDetter preservation Of Shamrock l. Whlch VIII
%be used in the trials this side Of the water
shamrock II will be employed in the trials on
the American side OF the Atlantic