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Recalled the Conversation.
Mr. Raynor asked If he remembered
the conversation on the Brooklyn be-
tween HOdgsOn and Captain Cook to
which the latter had testified, when the
former called the attention OF the cap
tain Of the Brooklyn to the Texas. and
Captain Cook had replied: "Oh. yes,
see the Texas
The admiral replied that he thought
he did recall it.
Mr.. Raynor here began a series of
questions to the witness intended to de-
velOp points of the controversy which
he evidently felt the admiral had not
brought out sufhci9 ntiy. He asked
Admiral Schley If he knew anything n
an order which went TO the men on
the Brooklyn during the early part of
the battle of July to stand by to
RAM" to which The admiral replied:
Yes, ] directed that order myself
because L called the attention of Cap
tain Cook at the time we were stand
ing in to the Spanish ships and said:
Look out They are going to ram
you There was a distinct attempt on
the part of both the Teresa and the
Niscaya TO ram. There is no doubt
about it. They were coming directly
at us. and I. don't think L mistook
their Intention at all 1t was only after
the Viscaya mad changed her course
tHaSt NS 1Aetue Jul AOORs INV ~ SSiS-
brated-"
Turn of the Brooklyn.
Mr.. Raynor-WhiIe talking about this
loop, why did not the ship turn with
helm hard starboard?
Simply for the reason that it would
have carried US into dangerous proxi
nifty to torpedo attacks, n broadside
torpedo attack of the enemy's vessels.
Ny Judgment was that at that stage
to be sacrificed: that. SO far as it
might affect the result TO individuals.
I thought was a consideration that
should be turned aside for the higher
and more important one-the interests
of the country she was there to sub
serve"
AS to the uncoupling of the engines
Schley testified that he thought
they were uncouDled by a standing
order of the commender-in-chief- At
the same time he said he believed the
uncoupiing was wise, both because 1t
would keep down the heat below decks,
which was we'll nigh insufferable for
the men as it was. and also on ac-
count of the desirability of economic
ing coal.
Signals With Insurgents.
Mr.. Raynor then asked Admiral
SchIey if he had asked Admiral Sarap-
son If there were any signals with the
insurgents. Il did," he replied, "but
the admiral said he knew OF none"
Mr.. Raynor then called the atten-
ton of Admiral Schley to the follow
ing dispatch dated Key West, Fla, May
81, 1898. to the secretary of war:
'Schley has been ordered TO San
tiago de Cuba-Sampson."
Mr.. Raynor asked if he had ever been
ordered to Santiago before the dispatch
of May %. which it had been stated
1an y
which the admiral replied:
mo, except under order No. s. Ieav-
ing the matter to my discretion
There is nothing then, between or
der No. s and the dispatch have Civ
e. ?''
mo, nothing
Here Mr.. Raynor reminded the ad-
miral that there had been more or less
discussion of the possibility of the es-
cape of the Spanish squadron through
the blockading line at either Cienfue-
gos or Santiago without being detect
ed, and requested from the admiral an
expression on this subject. Respond
ing, Admiral Schley said:
Could Not Have Escaped.
CT do not believe that that could have
heen pOssible; simply. because the
squadron from the position which it
occupied before these ports always
would have had that squadron, had 1t
attempted to escape, under its gun
fire. I had no trouble in seeing the
beach 90 per cent of the time, and
looked at ir with every care"
Here Mr.. Raynor asked a number of
questions concerning interviews with
Captains Cotton and Wise and other
officers, intended to bring out informa-
ton to make perfect the record. Ad-
miral Schley also reviewed the testi-
mony of Lieutenant Wood. Lieutenant
Hood and Captain McCalla.
Before the court adjourned Judge
Advocate Lemly arose and revived the
question of summoning Admiral Samp-
son as witness in the case. This sug-
gestion had been originally made sew
eral weeks ago in connection with the
translation of one of SIMPSONS dis
patches to Commodore Schley. and
Captain Lemly had said that If Mr..
RaynOr demanded that the admiral be
called he would summon him. In adj
dressing the court today Captain Lem
" said:
Sampson as a Witness.
Before the court adjourns L would
like to ask counsel question. He an
noUnced publicly that he desired
summons issued for Admiral Samp-
son. / have stated from time to time
il he would give me notice when he
wanted the admiral summoned 1 would
summon him. L have not received any
notice and I do not want to leave the
record in this shape. and [ would like
to know what his wishes are in the
matter"
Mr.. Raynor-My wishes are that if
you can summon him, summon him.
As / understand it, Admiral Sampson
is not in condition to be summoned.
He is not well enough to come into
court | am perfectly willing to have
him here, and L, of course, don't re-
tract for a moment anything l said at
the time. The court will recollect the
use of the words "Cienfuegos'' and
Santiago" The word used in that
dispatch was Santiago" At the time
4 ADMIRAL Schley sent the dispatch into
the navy department there was in the
para graph. This evidently means
Cienfuegos. w. w. s." 1 took it for
granted that Of course would be ad-
mitted. There was only one person in
the world who could explain that and
that was Admiral Sampson NV
learned brother declined to admit it. I
do not think now the question is as
serious as I did at that time. Now.
you and I both know that Admiral
Sampson is not in condition to be
called into court. I do not want to be
put in the position of abandoning nv
position or of calling Admiral Samp-
son into controversy where his pres
ence is not necessary. and when he is
in no condition whatever to be brought
into court, even if his presence was
necessary.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE
MORNING SESSION