Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1901-09-16
EMMA SAYS HELEN
TWAS COACHED"
Declares Mrs. Knox Threatened to Cut the
Child'S Tongue Out With Scissors
Also to Kill Her.

The principal witness called by the
defense in the Hubbard trial today was
Ella Jensen, who made a strong Witness
for the defense. She stated that She
had repeatedly seen and heard Mrs
Knox coaching Helen as To- what testi.
mony she should give at the trial.
The first witness called by the de.
Tense today was Il. S. Hubbard. a
brother of defendant He said hat he
had foomed in the Realty block oil and
on from March 1900, to May 4. 1901. on
March Goth he started for California.
returning April 18th. he testified that
on the top Of the wardrobe when be
went away there We're tYo bundles Of
portiers and two grips Which came IN
to the top Of the transom EXCEPT at the
sides. Witness examined these when he
returned from California and said he
vas convinced that they had not been
moved, owing 10 the dust on them
with Mr.. Hubbard when the lnspectlon
Of the rooms 2O2 and 203 was made were
Mike u Meara, Lew Kelsey, Judge Pow
ers, William Gundry, j. d. Keller and
JACK Grifhth, who has since died They
TOOK turns In looking through the tran
som ana lying on the bed. and they
round mat little or nothing of he bed
could be seen directly but anyone sit.
ting on the bed could be seen down 10
the upper part Of his breast. Anyone
lying on the west side OF the bed could
not De seen at all by direct view, nei-
ther cOuld anyone be seen on the east
SIDE OF the bed by direct view.
rms examination was made on Nav
Zoth ana 3rd. Witness also said that
four or five days previous TO this time
he ana Attorney Lippman made an ex.
9niaation Of the two rooms with SINH.
lar results.
IN cross-eXaminati0n witness said
that II had not occurred TO him to make
any examination Of the two rooms nm
he had consulted with Mr.. Llppmqp
one OF his brothers attorneys Witness
testified that he did not know of his
own knowledge whether anyone could
look through the transom and see the
bed on the 18th, 9TH. Sth. IN
or 9TH Of April. In redirect examinatio,
witness said that supposing the arti.
Giles on the top of the wardrobe had moi
been removed on the dates named n
would have been impossible for any one
to see the bed In direct view.
The defense next called Ella Jensen.
Miss Jensen said she was a native ~
Nebraska and had come 10 Salt Lake
last year. She met Mrs, Knox on Sept.
soth last and went TO room at her
mouse mat evening. The second time
she went TO room at Mrs. Knoxs house
was on April 10th. Mr. Slater and Nh
Afnup roomed in the house during wit.
nesss second stay there Witness said
she met Mrs Lawler in the Realty
block on April 18th She said Mrs. Law.
Ter had said 10 Mrs. Knox. talking Of
Hubbard:
We must convict him, or II win ruin
my business She also heard Mrs. Law
Ter say in room 2O2, His brother has
been here and changed things around
Witness also testified that Mrs. Law
Ter had said that Helen Knox must be
made 10 tell a straight story on IN.
night of Saturday April 18th she said
that Helen was out late She had
wanted her 10 50 out with her and re-
marked TO Mrs Knox that Il was very
late for so young a girl 10 be out. Mrs.
Knox had remarked that she was an
right as she was up In that mans"
room, meaning Hubbard Witness tesn-
fed that she had on various occasions
heard Mrs. Knox coaching her daugh- !
ter what answers she was TO give I'm |
court, She heard Mrs. Knox say 20
Helen, III you don't quit your lying / |
will cut your tongue out with the sells.
sors."
Witness also testified that she had |
heard Mrs Knox instruct Helen to go |
TO Mr.. Hubbards room and ask him
why he had not come 20 take a room |
there. She had heard Mrs. Knox say to !