The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1901-02-27
STILL DISCUSSING RULES.
REPRESENTATIVES, SOMEWHAT
MIXED.


Methods of Procedure are Argued
About for an Hour and then the
House Adjourns.
The afternoon session of the house
yesterday was devoted at the start to
another wrangle over rules.
Several of the members seemed to be
stin very much in the dark about the
rules that had been adopted. Twice
motions were made and ruled out of
order, to adopt the rules and the Com
mittee on Rules report which had
been adopted two days before.
For some minutes a debate about
amending a rule was conducted by
some of the members under the i'm
preston that a suspension of rule 49,,
allowing such changes, lasted over
from the day before. Robertson final
ly ended it by calling attention to the
fact that a rule is in force again after
which it is suspended. Much time is
lost through lack of knowledge of such
principles.
Mahoe Gnd), rose to announce that
he considered all amendments to the
rules out of order, as no motion to re-
consider the report of the committee
on rules had been made. This threat
encd to begin all anew the long-dis-
cussed questions of rules, as Mahoe
moved reconsideration of the rules
committees report.
Robertson claimed MahOe was out of
order as a motion to reconsider a re-
port could only be made on the day
after adoption of such report. Mahoe
seemed anxious to have some rules
oh n 10 tn he "a +
tack, claiming that amendments could
only be made after a motion to recon-
slider had been passed
THE remarks of the member from
Waialua seem to indicate that he
doesn't know the first principles Of
parliamentary procedure" said Rob-
ertson. demonstrating has nothing to
do with changes in the rules from time
to time The rules provide themselves
how they may be changed from time
to time, but it is too late now for a
motion to reconsider the committees
report. Changes We're properly made
yesterday, after adoption of the re-
port"
The chair ruled that the amendments
made yesterday had been properly
made and that MahOe was out of or
der.
Emmeluth withdrew his amendment
proposed yesterday reducing standing
committees from five to three mem
bers.
Representative Monsarrat moved
that visitors who go to Molokai with
the members should be prohibited from
taking any pictures, whether sketches
or anything else, while at the Settle
ment The motion carried.
The House adjourned at 2:30 with
out having done anything but receive
notices of some unimportant changes
in rules, to be moved on today.
ARGUMENT WINS.
Yesterday afternoon tn splendid
work of George r. Carter, ably Sec
onded by H. p. Baldwin, Cecil Brown,
j. ID. Paris and w. e. Achi, in the Sc
nate, resulted in knocking out a meas
ure of the Home Rule Party that had
already been agreed on in caucus. the
debate, which lasted an hour, was eX-
ceedingly warm, and at times became
almost personal.
The rules as reported provided
that the President of the Senate
should vote only on a tie or on
final ballot in the calling of ayes
and noes. Senators Kanuha, White
and Kalauokalani all vigorously
supported an amendment, giving the
President absolute authority and di-
rectlng him to vote on each and every
matter. The object was plain. 1t gave
with. This matter was so vigorously
combated by the Republicans that, not
only was the motion to amend knocked
out, but an amendment was inserted
absolutely forbidding the President of
the Senate from voting at any time eX-
cept on tie or on final ballot which
is allowed in the Organic Act anyway.
Mr.. Carter made the speech of the
day, being fully fifteen minutes on the
llOOr. c1 -
manner how such action would tie the
hands of the President who was sup
posed to rule act in all matters inn
partially. The action would place him
in a position where he could not avoid
suspicion of Partially. The minor
lty would regret such a condition of
things Mr.. Carter was particularly
caustic in easptaoin shrdlu cmfwypzfih
caustic in speaking of leaders of the
majority. He said that Senator White
favored the amendment, and as he was
the boss, all the Home Rulers would
have to fall into line. Mr. White OBJ
Jected to the remark as being discount
eous and denied that he exercised any
influence over his party members saved
what could be brought out in debate
with warning to the majority that if
they passed the amendment they would
soon be in such tangle that they would
have to come to the minority to
StfalSthen them out again.
The vote showed the effect of the ar
gument. Mr.. Kanuha and j. T. Brown
broke away from the Home Rulers and
voted with the Republicans. making the
vote to in favor of Mr.. Browns
amendment.
The remainder of the afternoons ses-
sion was taken up in the consideration
of other sections of the rules.
1t is the intention of the Senate to
have night sc ssions as soon as organi-
cation is completed.