The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1901-11-30
THE MAYOR Will
NOT APOLOGIZE
WillNot Retract Remarks
About WhiteWas,llrlg
IIlREEHOU2s' SESSION
Most Of estimony Was as to ALLEGED
Visit Of Mr.. Mccarthy.
CROWD ATTENDS INVESTIGATION
There We're No Such Stormy Scenes as ou
Tuesday Night, bit There Mas Much TO
lntcres, The Spectators Uatii the
Close OF the Session-Ad-
iouraed Until Next
Frida, Night.
Most Of estimony Was as to Alleged
Visit Of Mr.. Mccarthy.
CROWD ATTENDS INVESTIGATION

For three hours last night the special
committee investigating the Epps case
heard testimony as TO whether or not Mr.
Carlton Mccarthy visited Mayor Taylor
in his office on a certain day.
II. is true that there were other mat
tcrs touched upon, but nearly the whole
time was consumed in seeking to estab-
lish the fact of whether or not Mr.. Nc
carthy was where he said he was not
and where the Mayor stated he was on
a certain date.
Some evidence was presented bearing
upon the dela- in issuing the warrant
for lIpps arrest, and the course pursued
l,y the police in trying TO find the young
man. But not one thing was said i'll ref
crence to the adoption OF any method Tor
preventing a recurrence of the irregular
ties charged up to MIR. Epps.
irregularities charged up TO MI. Ipps.
Mayor Tayior refused to apologize to
the committee for his remark ABOUT
..whitewashing. lie emphancaIly ue-
clined to retract anything that he mao
said.
There were several hundred people at
the CITY Hall. and the committee sat IN
The Council chamber Some OF the mem
l,c,s of the Constitutional ConNenIoli
were there. among. them Hon. JosePh =.
Nyvsor. Judge Timothy RiYes, and lion.
Robert W. Blair. ,,o>-r
MIR M'CARTHNS ; QlESi lo-sc.
There were no highly sensational me-
donts Mr. Carlton Mccarthy, the ely
accountsnt who had been accused OF
co,lnsion with Auditor Warren III aldi1ls
7,,,,e T., make his escape, acted as ms
i own counsel and he proved liiii7e!l "
be :, very shrewd attorney IN eA'i'ttttiitf7
witnesses He got some OF theiil coiis'o-
erably .'ncttled. ,,o,,c,,
The witnesses summoned 's
rraylor TO prove that MI Mc.ai.its Mat a+
in his office the day lie stlu - ,,' ,,.,a
,be-o confirmed what the Mayor I'd =
.;a oxcapt that Mr.. Cardozo "ohid
,,ct swear that the gentleman VINO caiiie
4, was MIR. McC.rthy, but to the pesl o.
~, knowledge and belief it was the Guy
Accountant.
1u6ro witt told of Mr.. Mccarthy Nlsi'
IA him and said the City Accountant
showed no disposition TO shield MI. LIPS
but. on the contrary, apreareu 10 ps
anxious to perform his duty. the Juost
could not say that Mr.. McCarthSs ils 'iao
denied in his presence having neeli 70 ~.
Majors office on u certain dale. i'e Wv
hca- the Accountant denying III elhPiia'''
terms everything the Mayor Was sd it,5
hut Just what those tnihsS were ''iS
Judge could not recall
Messrs. Knowles and Shelton heard MI
Mccarthy deny language attributed 70
him by the Mayor but they did not nli'
torstand him TO say he was not IN ths
MAYORS Office on the date III question:
mir. Mccarthy insisted that by the cross
questioning of the witnesses that MS
denial of the compound question: 'Dldn
You tell me in that reception room ina
YOU told Cecil Epps that you would slan'
IA him, right or wrong? was derla
of both The alleged language ana mat III
was there.
But the witnesses could not see 1t ina
MAY.
MOTIVE OF OTHERS.
Nir Mccarthy attempted to prove thai
Mr. II. A. Williams. a clerk in the Audi
tors Office. might have been the man II
The Mayors Office instead OF himself
uie also, by his line Of questioning OF tbs
witnesses, appeared 10 be attempting t.
bring out the fact that the police might
not have been over-zealous in their efforts
o. arrest Epps because he was related
by marriage with Il brother of Il member
OF the Board OF Police Commissioners.
INTENSE INTEREST SHOWN.
The crowd began 10 gather III me com
mittee-room by 7:S0 O'Clock. All the space
WAS soon occupied, and there We're per
sons out in the hallway. When Chair
\ 1ran Mills arrived, he decided TO adjourn
the investigation to the Council chamber
All the space III that room was soon oc
cilr,ed and many peepue coGtd No. Se
in All Of the five members oil the lnFeS
1igat!ng committee answered 10 thei
names.
Chairman Mills announced that no un
parliamentary language would DC per
,nitted to he used by any Witness suc'
as was used by some OF the Senuenleh d
the last meeting.
THE MAYOR AND WlIITEWASitlNH
The chairman then called on the Mayo
20 explain what lie meant by the remari
ahovt the committee .'whitewashinS TN
affair. Before the Mayor could reply Ny
Gordon rose to u question of persona
privilege. and stated that he had read i
The Richmond Times al alleged interVieS
with Mayor TAYLOR, i'll which lie was re
rcrted TO have said that the so-caiie'
.whitewashing' remark was susseS'e
rG Mr. Gordons remark that ne ID,
nothins wrong in that MI 1oriol
stated that he had during 'lle VIC ,,'t
oc Mr.. Mccarthy, when the witness ma
,o,d abort the sympathy expressed 10
T3pps. said he saw nothing wrong u
that
Mayor TAYLOR stated that he had hear'
Mr.. Gordon remark that 80 saw notaih'
wrong IN that" when The matter OF III
conduct of Mr. Warren and Mi McCar
thy was hcing,jnvestigated.
Il have nothing to retract and no apollo
Eies to make TO amy one added IN
Mayor. as he resumed his scot.
.e.lll j have to say in reply" Mr.. Cor
don said. lis that If the remark ] mad
WAS not. under the circumstances a
stated by me. wish any one who ma.
have heard IL and understood 1t differ
entity from what j haze stated. to ris
IN here and say 50. My comment wa
simply that saw nothing wrong in