The Montgomery advertiser., 1901-05-28

| Is it not better that not only should the gentlemen who have been very dii- igently and ably working at the rules should know what is in the rules but
 all the other members should know. Now will state what occurred to
 me when the rules were read It oc-
 cured to me that there was some en- barrassment in one or two of the most material rules and that is the reason l that I suggested, if might say so, to | my friend from Montgomery, to make
 the motion. when he asked the ques- tion. It occurred to me. sir, that there might be some considerable embarrass-
 ment In the framing or caption of or | dinances. know that the rules of the Committee did not intend to have that
 and do not know that should be able | to improve upon the rules suggested, | but it would be very nearly impossible | for any gentleman to point out what
 1t might be, or ought to be. or to inn prove on 1t, after he has heard it with | his ears and not having seen it, by just asking the clerk to read it afresh. Now that is the rule which requires | that each ordinance shall be entitled | with the section and article which it
 refers to. do not know that I use | the exact language. Now I take it, we are here to make a Constitution, and not here to amend the present l Constitution except as all laws amend
 existing laws and that may prove to be
 a very troublesome article. It may be 1 that it will lead to considerable debate | and argument as to what are the par | ticular titles of the present Constitu-
 tion that are affected by others which
 are offered. I shall support, therefore. the motion of the gentleman from | Montgomery to print and lay over for
 consideration until tomorrow. There will be no delay. think if the Journ-
 al of the Convention is referred to it will be found that We have already or | dered standing committees. Ain
 right, MT. President?
 | The President pro tenn assented to | the statement.
 MT. Pillans-we have ordered the
 standing committees, precisely in the
 same order as now stated in the report.
 The Committee brought in partial re- port and we adopted it, and there is | nothing to be gained by going further with this report of the Committee. Governor Oates-May inquire of the | Chairman of the Committee if there is | any rule-I did not notice it if there
 is-by which the vote is prescribed to | change or amend the rules. Mir. Knox-Two-thirds. That Is the usual parliamentary practice. Mir. Lomax-It requires two-thirds to suspend a rule, but a majority MT. Knox-I beg the gentleman's par don; it requires two-thirds to suspend | a rule. but a majority to amend the l rule after one days notice. Governor Oates-That is much more liberal. Mir. President, find from | the reading but one rule that doubted. and I have some assurances that will | be amended and made more definite, and then, for myself. I do not care for l the motion. think I understand the rules very well and while 1t Is in the possession of the Convention if any
 body objects to it desire to withdraw | the motion, but if any one objects, l will not withdraw it.
 MT. Knox-I will state for the in- l formation of the Convention that it is | the purpose of the Committee on Rules ! to move an amendment to meet the ob- | lection raised by the gentleman from Montgomery as to a cah for division, k and might state now that rule three shall be amended so as to provide that upon a vote being taken, the Chair shall announce that one or the other side of the question seems to have, it. and wait a reasonable l time for a demand for a division, when | if no such motion Is made, the chair shall state-if no such demand is made. | the chair shall announce the result of the vote.
 Governor oates-I am satisfied with | that.
 The President pEo tem-The gentle man from Montgomery asked leave to withdraw the motion to postpone until | tomorrow, if there is no objection. The chair hears. none, and the question is on | the motion that the rules of the com
 mittee be adopted.
 Covarn0P TonaS (M0nfYnmAPV1-I have no objection to that motion, if I
 may be permitted to call attention to one rule. Rule 23, think, requires all
 resolutions to be referred to the Com
 mittee on Rules. or at least think it is twenty three.
 Rule 23 read.
 Governor Jon es-That is not the one.
 It Is the rule that requires all motions to be referred to the Committee on Rules.
 MT. Knox-All resolutions-- Governor Jones-I hope the Commit tee will modify that rule. For instance, some gentleman might have a motion that has been referred to the Commit tee on Rules. and he might wish to of-
 fer a resolution to discharge them from
 the consideration of it, or to compel
 them to report it. Under the letter of
 that rule. such resolution would have to pc TeIeTTSu lo lle NotiiAAAtIcS 0AA
 Rules.
 MT. Pettus-I rise to a question of in- formation.
 The President pro tem.-The gentle
 man will state his point of inquiry. MT. Pe:tus-Do I understand the
 amendment proposed by the chairman
 of the committee has been adopted and
 incorporated in the rules? The President pro tem-The chair
 does not understand any amendment has been proposed, but that the chair mar has given the convention the in- formation that an amendment will be
 proposed.
 Mfr. Knox-I am directed by the Com mittee on Rules to move to amend
 Rule 8, which reads as follows: He shall rise to put a question, but may state it sitting. All questions shall be
 distinctly put in this form: Those in
 favor Gas the question may he) say aye,
 and after the affirmative vote has been
 expressed, those opposed te the motion say mo- Now the committee offers this amendment to be inserted at that place in the rule: Upon the vote being ta- ken, the chair shall announce that one or the other side of the questions seems to have it, and wait a reasonable time for a demand for a division, when. if no such demand is made, the chair shall
 state the decision"
 The question was put upon the adop- tion of the amendment, and the amend
 ment was adopted.
 Governor Jones (Montgomery)-Eow
 I would like to have the Secretary Yead Rule 2S.
 Rule 2S read.