The Houston daily post. [volume] (Houston, Tex.) 1886-1903, 1901-08-04
AFTERNOON SESSION.

N'HtiH Nrane announced thnt North
icXes was not interested In ignite and did
NOT want that questions considered. This
brought out a storm of protests from the
lignie miners, and they all said thtb:
SHIPPED lots Of IL mp there.
Mi. H. Bright OF the German -Ameri-
ehl OIL company Of Houston was the first
witness introduced by the oil men, NJ Nj.
Crlne conducting the examination. Witness
st1ted, with reference to the hazard In
transporting oil, that there was very little
danger ms the tank car was coupled on
the coal tender of locomotive while cot
ton on nat ears was usually eight cars
bQ * He said that in many cases tank
cars were returned loaded while coal cars
were often returned to the mines empty.
lie never heard of an oil tank burning
white In transit oil tank ears can also
be used for shipping cotton seed oil and
nielassea after the tanks have been steamed
apl cleaned
Commissioner Maydeid asked him II he
was positive on this point and he said he
was.
Secretary Gibson of the Cotton Seed
Crushers association said 100 OF the 40
miles operating In Texas belonged to the
association and that oil tank cars were
as he had used thousands of them for
that purpose. He never saw car loaded
with crude petroleum.
Mir. II. ii Bailey Of Lamar Cotton Seed
Oil company OF Paris was next called lie
said he has been shipping cotton seed
oil In tank ears for the past six years
plant with oil burners, AT present he uses
coal from the Huntington mines In Ar
81 % per ton; Beaumont oil will cost him
So per ton lie argues that oil Is on
parity with coal; az present he would save
money by using oil He never tried KS
Waters-Pierce Oil company and In reply TO
question from Mr. Bennett he said the
Cotton Seed Crnshers' association, was not
a trust He said If coal was In danger OF
being driven out of the state the coal
dealers would reduce the price and have
the freight rate reduced so as TO compete
Major Farley was next called, He said
the shortest route from Beaumont to Dal-
Nr' j. c, Mcdowell Of Gufey Petroleum
company testified as to the export value
of oil He has been in tho oil business for
twenty years aud said that fuel oil had
making arrangements TO ship oil out OF the
State The present high rate prevented
short hauls IN the state and y could not
compete with Ignite. IL the freight rate
WAS lowered on par with Ignite II would
extend the business In Texas te radius
Of 225 miles and with that rfgius, there
snmed daily. There Is very little money
IN long hauls. He also said that the pres
ent rates We're about the same ms IN other
States whore oil Is produced, He sald
he could take oil to Cuba cheaper than
he could to Houston, The point was
brought out that oil In Eastern States WAS
monstrated, according to General Crane.
that the Texas rate was too high for the
quality Of oil produced here. lie said the
price of coal had been reduced in New
Orleans 80 per cent also In Alabama, on
account Of beaumont oil, though he did not
pay attention TO newspaper reports. re
said the Guffey company was not owned ny
the Standard oil company.
Judge Reagan announced that the ques-
tion UP was the transporting and value
of the article.
The first witness for the coal men was
General Freight Agent Turner of the In
ternationaI and Great Northern. lie said
the cheapest things handled by the rail
roads were sand wood, Ignite ana coal
OH had more value TO II. There are NJ
have spent $4,000 building up these
General Crane asked him what would
cost most 20 transport $50 miles, twenty
oil would, on account Of cost OF equipment
outside Of that 1t would not He sald ms
tank ears were used for cotton seed Oil
aud that more than half of his coal cars
Nv Judge Reagan: "would yon charge
more for hauling carload ns o OF s!iS. tuah
"of course; for the value or the siik 10
greater" -,
rate was in force If coal cost Sl,so per
ton at the mines and oil $l.65 per ton AZ
the we'll He answered: con account Of
the value Of the oil at the point Of destiha M
our freight at the Ignite rate we would laii
short $4,000 in operating expenses Ma,
w. j. Gordon of the Texas and pacih 1S
Coal company was next called. He sald
his company mined 100000 tons OF coal
last year; most Of 1t was bought ny the
Texas and Pacific railway. HIS company
owns 200 coal cars and the company lost
money the first eight years OF Its exls sde,
and the plant Is now worth H1'uVV,Vv e,,
"a reduction in the oil rate would des'rS ny
our business on cross examination ne
said that 80 per cent Of his output was
sold Ia the Texas and Pacific and oil rates
would not AFFECT him. He SAID 90 palu
gel the coal out and sold II for fraction
! less than So eve keep business eompel-
! ton off our own land. but employees are
not restricted to buy at our stores. nc nc
| testified that his company did not compete
with Territory coal on account o5 we
rate He could, II the rate was reaue ~
| demand. He would like to have a lower
| rate bnt would not ask for II, as ne ala
! not have the authority.
Adjourned until 10 a. m, Monday.
49,
The following is a synopsis OF all the
correspondence received by the commission
on the subject OF todny's hearing. II was
not read In the hearing, but was used as
i,etters were read from all parts of tho
! State The SupJtNts fAuuA Va AAtNi
| swering the questions which were sent out
/ nv the commission on May 10 as the rela.
| live price between coal, ignite and OIL ana
| the amount to he consumed, including inc
! present oil rate OF II cents single line
! haul and Is cents joint haul 70 common
nolnt territory. Common point territory ~
| All Of that territory south OF the lied
| river. southeast Of Quanah, east OF Abliene;
| Coleman Junction aud Llano and north anu
east ~ san Antonio and northwest OF COZ
nus Christi Every town within sup
| nnosed circle drawn through the towns
named Is common point territory.
The Black DIAMOND Coal Company OF
Roekdale said the use OF OIL would be mneh
| eheaner and reduction Of their expenses
! would be 50 great that only correspond
! ing high rate on oil would allow coal TO
/ compete with 1t. - $50. In.
/ ~, exas Will have more diversity 81 enter.
prfses than any State In the Union u OF
I bolas out and the railroads VIII maui u
| chran enough IL we can't get the foads
/ ~ haul II cheap we Will be forced 70 III
| ~ rs combine and run pipe lines az over
/ The state Beaumont oil costs r Q. q. -
/ cents al corslcana and 70 cents at HIS
/ boro." ,,,. ..td 10 rs,e.
lha,a ain,ave been so high on CorslcAnA
III mi they could not use u.
lhs STATE parsAasing sSeat AHA flAi