Evening times-Republican. [volume] (Marshalltown, Iowa) 1890-1923, 1901-01-18


Should have corresponding appropri-
1;ion at least equal to that which would
represent the local value to the state,
The use of these waterways for state
commerce. take 1t that the gentleman
from Michigan does not desire and in
sist that the federal government shall
aid in any way any transportation of
the local merchandise of the state of
Michigan. Surely he would not. And
yet when these waterways are provided
they are provided for all purposes, the
same for the state as for national pur-
oses and he does get that benefit. Now,
say that Justice and fairness require
tl;at the other states should have in
some way or other an equivalent for
that peculiar advantage.
Mr. Weeks-M Many 1 ask the gentleman
a question?
Mr.. Hepburn-Yes.
Mr.. WeeksI would like to have the
gentleman state how the appropriation
should be made for the benefit of the
state that has no rivers and harbors.
MI Hepburn am no prepared to say
Jest how 1T should be made but L nigh.
7 suggest to the gentleman that, take
these western states, with the rich deep
foam that has no limestone base that is
accessible, that can not have the good
roads that you have in Pennsylvania
and IN many other states, aid could be
" ven in that direction. We do not have
the sandy soil that you have in very
sr.1any parts of Michigan There are
81 ates Where the road problem is one of
terrible significance. There are months
IN the year in the region of country
Where live that the highways are prac-
stcally impossible, and there is an en-
barge on travel. and other from farm 10
farm. We have no stone. we have no
sand, we have the rich deep soil that
when the frost comes out in the spring.
or when the rains are unusual, make "a
into mud SO deep that the wagon will
sink almost out of sight.
Mr.. Weeks Would the gentleman
Fave that appropriation for roads In the
sf ates that have no rivers and tarbors
made in the river and harbor bill?
Mr.. Hepburn am not talking about
y here 1t should be made; / am trying to
Set into the mind of the gentleman. III
4 can. some slight conception of the JUS
tice there ought to be in appropriations
or this kind.
MI Chairman, there is another meas
Surel tnat wish to speak about and in
regard to which think the committee is
lnaRlng great mistake. In the last an
slIopriation bill they started upon a new
departure that viii have nb end, gentle,
men, no end. refer to the harbor of
New York upon which millions of dol
l;.rs have been spent; a harbor that was
supposed to be in perfect condition. One
Y ould have supposed 1t no longer needed
u care of this bill. But the new spapers
atn ounced that upon The stocks, in some
si:lpyarc in Glasgow, there was a vessel
t.tt would draw thirty-four feet No
's:'ch vessel had ever been built, no such
3sessel had eyer appeared but Straight
way the representatives from that great
sta came to the river and harbor com
snittee With the proposition that New
York harbor must be fitted for the ad-
vent of that vessel. if. perchance. that
vessel ever Should come to American.
waters. And at once there was prop
os;tion engrafted upon the bill to widen
end deepen the channel, giving them
cepth of thirty-five feet, 1000 feet wide
from the point of the island out beyond
the bar
MIR Fitzgerald. of A1assachusetts-
Forty feet.
Mr. Hepburn-The gentleman from
Massachusetts correpts me by saying the
depth waste be forty feet. think that
"a $ the proposition originally, but it was
modified as Understand. to thirty five
feet. Two thousand feet wide, Ii has
t.een developed in this debate that in
me Detroit river, where more commerce
uasses during the twelve months of the
Year than at any other spot on earth.
sae channel is but 900 feet wide ana tbe
committee proposes instllis bill 10 double
lis width. In the fast moving stream.
With many sharp angles. 500 feet are
deemed sufficient width Of channel for
the massage of the greatest volume Of
commerce that is corlgregated at any
enc point in the who'll. surface of the
Garth, yet at New York the pronosition
is to give breadth of channel Of more
taan three times what is proposed for
the channel of the. Detroit river ana
rlore than six times the width that mas
served the uses Of commerce In the De-
troit river all these years.
Mr.. Fitzgerald, of New York rose.
Mr. HepbnrnI will yield to the GEN
tlsnian for question
Mr. Fitzgerald. of New York; would
IKE to ask the gentleman whether ne
Knows that there is a line of steamers
having ttlirty-four feet of water run
ring from Liverpool to an Australian
port, and that the owners of that line
applied in New York for wharfage n
lrcer to run such a line to New York ?
Mr. Hepburn did not know il.
remember reading some years ago the
statement in regard to this vessel being
lpon the stocks. accompanied with the
statement that IT was was the only ves-
y the world drawing more than thirty I
Get. My information Is based upon that
statement. II the gentleman has other
Information shall be glad to be cor
-ected.
Mr.. Fitzgerald, of New York; viii |
,ay to the gentleman that within the
ast SIX months application was made in !
view York harbor for wharfage facin- I
les OF thirty four feet draft.
Mr.. Hepburn MIR Chairman. thai /
aises the Pertinent inquiry. Are we To- |
ldapt our entire harbor system 10 tbe I
'epth OF few vessels, or by establish I
ng our own water depth are we going
e compel the conformation of vessels Ii; I
nat Shall we expend millions upon
millions because some shipbuildler sees
y occasionally to give this greater draft
Q his vessels. or shall we say to him. sIf
'ou want the trade Of our ports. YOU
nust conform your vessels to our thirty
DOT standard.
Now. Mr. Chairman. if this appro-
,ria,ion of six or eight or ten milton