The daily morning journal and courier., 1901-06-14

Safdlng men on the force?
 Not always"
 Can you recall case when it was ever done before?"
 'Yes, sir"
 "When?"
 'Once to my knowledge three ser geants were made without the action of the efficiency committee"
 Have you ever heard commissioner Lee say Captain Brewer ought to be transferred to the veteran reserves?"
 NO, sir"
 Have you ever heard him say Cap | tain O'Keefe ought to be transferred?"
 T have"
 Have you ever heard Commissioner Lee say Sergeant Bergin ought to be put on the veteran reserves or retired list?" l "I never have"
 What was your idea in put ting that clause in the resolutions, faithful and meritorious service?
 ITO let them down easy.'
 But you believed these men inef1i- cient?"
 'Yes, sir"
 You believed them incompetent" | "Yes, sir You believed they allowed gambling | hells to exist and liquor violations to go unpunished, did you not ?"
 "Yes, sir. And yet you consented to the in- sertion of that clause of the resolution knowing, as you did, that these men were unfaithful and incompetent. Why did you not, if you believed these things true, have these men brought before the board for punishment?" T wanted to let them down easy, for they have done good work in the past We had charity for them"
 Witness said he objected to pension ing any men in the department. The sense of all the commissioners present at Landers' office that night was unfa- vorable to pensions, except for physical disabilities.
 Yet that night you ordered certain patrolmen to be examined for the pen sion list?'
 "They were so ordered by the board"
 Brewer was the man you wanted re- tired, was it not?"
 "Yes, Sir" With decided emphasis.
 And Captain O'Keefe and Sergeant Bergin were the men Commissioner Avery wanted retired?"
 "Yes, sir"
 Were any of the other commission CTS invited to retire men?"
 "No, sir"
 Chief Wrinn has said to me that wherever Captain Brewer was the sta tion went down.
 hot bo mi hot Chief Wrinn and Captain Brewer?"
 q don't know
 "Wasn't there always more or less policy playing in the central precinct and isn't there such to-day?"
 'I don't think so. The present affi- cers have broken it up.
 Did not the Law and Order League raid such places within the past six months?"
 "I don't know
 You said you had no interest in saloon and never protected any?"
 "No, sir, I never had"
 Have you not gone to certain sa- looms in the Second ward and told them that under certain considerations you would protect them?"
 "No, sir, never"
 DO you know Officer Hugh McKe- an?"
 "Yes, sir'
 Did you cause his transfer from Captain Brewers precinct because he l was too zealous in closing saloons?"
 NO, sir"
 Did you not take two sergeants from Captain Brewers precinct, and l thus handicap him in the discharge of ] his duty?"
 q recommended the transfer of Ser l geant Crocker to a station near his own | home because I had been so requested | by his friends"
 You know Officer Dippold?"
 "Yes sir"
 "Yes, sir.'
 'Did you not interfere with Captain Brewers removal of him from the dock?"
 "Oficer Dippold I did not know was to the boat beat until he came to me and asked to be perma- nently retained there. l spoke to Cap tain Brewer and he said It's all right" Later Dippold was transferred to an- other beat, and another officer was put on there Dippold was anxious to stay there as he was willing to do all night duty. Officers of the Steamboat com pany complained that they did not want Dippold there. They were satis- fled with Officer Wrinn and I suggested Dippold's transfer to the central sta tion.'
 'Have you stated at any time since May IA that If the public would be sat sfied you would restore one of these men to their former place?"
 'No, sir. I may have said that if I had made mistake l would be ready to rectify ii"
 Do yau think you did make such a 
 "No, sir; not up to the present time" Redirect eXamination-"I believe l hese men capable of doing half days york; but not more.' hink them capable of doing only half l days duty?" l Because of their age" , "Is that the only reason?" "Well, inefflciency."
 The Court-"Iet this witness go | low." { Sergeant Michael Hayes of Precinct | , No. testified: II am thirty-fve years i i'd. Have been sergeant since 1897 at I station No. ?. Have served with Cap- (