Daily Kennebec journal., 1901-03-02

| President; and as | am mt , ,.....
| would prefer that LAWYERS aiso,s.
that question. | do not want /. ,,,,-..
stood from what | said that I az, ~,
in favor of retrenchment and econor,,.
believe that is right. but haI,a,.c
there is mean between great uharal-
ity and parsimony.
Mr.. STAPLES of Knov. to4
the senator another question. IF we
are up !" our constitutional limit.
would you 'ieh pe IN favor of all these
appropriations that you now speak of?
Mr.. BRf AN or Somerset: / have
not said, to my knowledge. that I was
in favor OF every appropriation upon
this bill. There may be some that
might be cut out | will saw for one
that as member of that committee
| did not have the time and I do M.
believe anyone had the time with our
other work. to examine every item
there. and there might be some that
perhaps, as ! said, could he reduced
There is one there relating to tbe e.en
ographer 10 the chief iustice-I know
nothing about it. 1t seems Ia me that
lawyers ought to know whether that
item could be stricken out | know
nothing about the work Of the chief
| justice.
Mr.. STAPLES of Knox: am not go
ing to discuss this matter over again.
discussed it fully Yesterday. and
only rise now To say and to answer a
question that the senator from Somer-
set asked t1e senator from cumber-
land. as TO what would be the result
! az.
but did not make any appropriation
for illustration, supposing that you did
not abolish the State board of agricul-
ture, lnciudihg the Secretary's Office
and supposing you did not make any
appropriation for that purpose. what
| will be the result? The result will be:
You will not have To pay the amount Of
money that you are paying. All you
would lose is the great and valuable
| services of this present board of ;gri-
culture; and it is for you to say wheth-
er that would be beneficial. AS far as
future Legislatures having to make il
up is concerned there can be no queS-
ton that they would not
Mr.. WEEKS of Somerset: ! would
like to ask the senator from Knox, a
question. Supposng you abolish the
board Of agriculture. would YOU not
| substitute something in its place that
would require an equally large appru-
priation?
Mr.. STAPLES of Knox: Mr. Prcsi-
dent and gentlemen. the present appro-
priation bill does not show to this Leg
islature. as yet, it has been kept back.
as | understand, the expense Of the
| Of b. of l,tlr.
If | am not correct. some senator will
correct me. My idea of that matter
was that. in view Of what we have
heard here this winter. that a commits
sioner Of agriculture be appointed who
shall have full power Of everything
and | believe you can save. by that,
more than $4,000 of the appropriations
that have been made for the State
| board of agriculture for the last four
| years.
| Mr.. WEEKS Of Somerset: Mr.. Presi-
dent. | believe in fair play. intro
| duced the order for the investigation
| into the affairs of the secretary of the
| board agriculture. | do not intend. by
the way TO discuss this bill. | am not
! very capable of it, figures bother me 4
great deal: but we are proposing TO try.
| upon the report of the committee OF
| 3 agriculture. the secretary of the board
| of agriculture. we are to determine tins
question upon the evidence that has
| been adduced. Now. | am not a farm
| er. | am something OF gardener,
with all my other good qualities this,
by the way is no allusion to the Cam
den water case. daughter and ap-
| plause). II seems to me, although /
have some firm convictions upon the
method pursued by the board aSricul-
ture. that that case should be tried
fairly. honestly and deliberately in this
chamber when the evidence is present
ed to US: and think it unfair, both to
| the board of Agriculture. and to Secre-
tary McKeen, that the senator from
Knox. should undertake to prejudice
this Senate to PREJUDICE this case, be
fore the evidence gets in.
Mr.. PLUMMER of Penobscot: Mr..
President. | would like to ask my
friend. the senator from Knox, ques-
ton. Suppose this Legislature adjourns
without repeating the law creating the
board of agriculture. and providing for
! its secretary and his remuneration. and
that il also adjournS without making
any appropriation to meet the require
ments of that law, and the secretary
of the board of agriculture and the
| board of agriculture go right on under
| the law. doing their duty, performing
service to the State. is there any way
they could get their pay. What would
| be the result?
Mr.. STAPLES of Knox: | should say,
as legal proposition. Mr.. President
that they could not get their pay.
| Mr. PLUMMER of Penobscot: |
should say. as n matter of practice in
the Congress of the United States, and
under the government of the United
States. that. unless athe law We're re-
| pealed. and they went on doing their
service. they would have a claim
| against the State, in the case of the
| general government. an officer doing
that has claim against the state.
which he can enforce in the court of
| claims; and | have no doubt the judi
ciary of our State would provide such
| n tribunal in which such claim against
the State for services performed un-
der the law. could be paid.
Mr. STAPLES of Knox: Mr.. Presi-
dent. | should expect if an appropria-
| ton for an office in this State was
abolished. and the law creating that Of
| flee was not abolished. that it would be
| constructive notice to whoever held
that office under those circumstances