The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1901-12-13
REFUSED AGA Il
TO Limit DEBATE B
The Convention Rejected DunawaY.
Amendment.
TO ELECT BY LEGISLATURE E, lilI;:,. ~. Re-,
Alr. o'Flaherty,s Amendment as 70 P0pu-
lar Election of circuit Judges Re-
jected-The Proceedings
ID Detail.

day reported an amendment to the rules,
onered by MI. Runaway. having Tor us
object the limiting OF speeches to. thirty
minutes. and also one to the judiciary
report providing for the election OF clr-
cult judges by the people. e tx
Both were the subjects Of long drawn
out debates, and together, consumed athe
entire session of four hours. AT 2 O clock
P. NJ the body adjourned until 10 CLOCK
to-day when it VIII resume the consId-
Grafton Of the judiciary report.
DAY IN DETAIL.
The convention met at 10 o clock; prayer
by DR.. McIlwaine; seventy-two members
being present. Leaves Of absence were
granted several members.
The resolution offered by DR.. DunaWay
limiting speeches to thirty minutes IN
Committee of the Whole came up in regu-
lar order.
Mr.. Summers said he had rather have
no debate than be confined to thirty
minutes. He was pposed to Sallopplng
in this way down to posterity. He hao
made but few speeches and could say
more than any one else in thirty minutes.
but it was impossible to properly discuss
great question in that length or tlme.ate
Judge Robertson said he was opposed
to any such gag law. Because members
had grown tired OF hard work was no
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debate and preventing free and full dis
cussion of all questions. He SAID ne
challenged any other deliberatlVe pody
in the world for hard work in the con-
vention since the committees mace ,ueir
reports No other body that ever as
sembled had been confronted with such
grave and far-reaching problems Whicn
came trooping up for consideration, us
cussion ana dcliberation.
MR. BRAXTON'S SPEECH.
Mr.. lBraxton strongly opposed the reso-
lutiCn. He salG it vas unjust to nlem-
bers of the convention and unjust to sue
ceeding generations. He rccapitulated
the great questions which were just be-
ginning TO come up for final action, ana
asserted that not a moments time: was
being wasted in debate, declaring that
this convention was confronted with
more serious problems and more Of them
than all the other conventions held IN
Virginia put together. He was utterly
onposed to stampeding the convention by
a gag rule just as the most important
of ali it's work was beginning to come up
for discussion.
Mr.. Wise said th~t after six months
had been spent in an effort to frame
Constitution, he come to the deliberate
conclusion that limit should be placed
on speeches in the public interest lie
referred TO lllc WEN uCliDSAehIAo1A va 49,
question in the Judiciary Committees
report, its futility as well as the repe-
tition of words by innumerable speakers.
Mr.. Rraxton had claimed that a man
could not express himself in thirty min
utes. but he was of the opinion hat any
man who understood his subject couio
say all he ought to say In thirty MN
utes He was in favor OF the resolution
because some members here had grossly
~, ,rfa Of free (lSCuSSlOn,
and bv a multiplication Of words ana
sneeches had seriously retarded the WORK
in hand.
UNJUSTIFIABLE GAG.
Mr.. Turnbull said speeches In the con-
yention had already been limited 10
twenty minutes, and it would pc an IN
iustitiabe gag to limit speeches. III .iie
Committee of the Whole 10 Unity Unity Ai1'-
utes.
Mr. Summers asked if it was fair or
honest to shut him off now with thirty
minutes when it was we'll known that ne
was inst getting ready to answer over
sixteen hours argument on an important
question
Mr.. Thorn offered a substitute that no
debate should be allowed IN COMMITTEE
of the Whole on a motion to RECONSIDER
a vote without two-thlrds maJori 1l
Under q point made by Mr.. Walker the
substitute was ruled out Of order until
1t laid on the table for three days. the
Dunawaw resolution was rejected: Yeas,
y: nays, As
MAJOR ANDERSON HEARD.
The resolution Of Mr.. w. a. Anderson
permitting the previous question to be
called in Committee of the Whole was
taken UP.
Mr. Anderson said unless some limit
was put to debate the convention would
be in session six months longr. It had
already taken more time than any other
convention held on earth outside Of Vir-
sinia. and this one had heanz in session
nearly as long as that of g1s51, with. no.
prospect Of an end in sight q -fscf.zz
He referred to other conventions in
Southern States having before them the
,,rch'---,r IT. '--d
OF them had taken more than four
months. He called attention to DAYS and
days of hard work in making and hear
ior i.cne Snaechas over questions that
had been settled more than once. He.
-eferred to the folly of allowing two
GAS AND TROUBLE