The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1901-10-04
No Effort to Dispose of stock to Any
One I'm Return for Exercise of
Official Influence.
BROKE EARLY WITH HAWKES.
AND CONSIDERED THE DEAL CLOSED
AS REGARDED HIMSELF.
He Considered the Promoters Meth
DDS DishOnOrabIe and Withdrew
n Letter of Introduction.

WASHINGTON, Oct. 3.-The cross-eXam-
inati0n of Major Hawkes. was continued at
the Heistand investigation to-day by the
Senate military affairs committee. Mr..
Needham, attorney for Colonel Heistand,
endeavored TO fix dates relative to the de-
livery of the Ito whom it may concern" let
ter. The witness was not clear TO the
dates.
Maj Edward Howard. who had charge of
making the copies of the correspondence
turned over TO Heistands attorneys, con-
tradicted Hawkes. relative to the copies.
Hawkes. had said he had nc knowledge of
the copies being made. Howard said the
copies were made at the request of Hawkes.
and turned over to him. He also said
Hawkes. wanted the copies to protect him
self, as he was afraid he would not be fair
ly treated by the government. On cross
examination by Major Hawkes. Mr.. Howard
insisted that his statements were accurate.
Lieut.. Col. II. o. S. Heistand, the princi-
pal in the case, then took the stand. He de-
tailed his acquaintance with Hawkes. and
explained how he began negotiations with
him as to the hemp company. AT a meet
ing of several persons interested he tT1ei-
standI had said he wanted some friends to
have an opportunity to take stock in the
company, mentioning the names of General
Corbin, Assistant Secretary Meiklejohn and
Assistant Secretary Allen. Major Hawkes.
mentioned the name of Assistant Attorney
General Boyd. AS to the list of names of
persons in his handwriting Colonel
Heistand thought he wrote the list as
Hawkes. mentioned the names. Witness
preached the matter to General Corbin,
who then seemed TO think favorably OF the
proposition, but subsequently told witness
he could not go into the company. General
Corbin had said that it would be all right
for him [Heistand1 to go into it, but he did
not think it would be proper for him [Cor.
binJ to do So That had ended his discus
sion of the subject with General Corbin.
Mr.. Allen had told the witness that if the
plan of organization was all right and
proper he would take some stock. Assist
ant Secretary Meikeijohn had responded TO
his proposition in about the same manner
Colonel Helstand to each mentioned $4,000
worth of stock being taken by each one
names were not to be used for advertising
purposes, and there was no intimation that
they were to receive the stock for nothing.
Witness had one further conversation with
Mr.. MeikeljOhn in which he (Heistand) had
shown him statistics which Hawkes. had
prepared.
Colonel Heistand then related his recol-
lection of the ITO whom Ii may concern"
letter, how 1t was written and how the
signatures were obtained. He said the let
ter did not contain the titles of Meikeljohn,
Boyd and himself This letter, he said was
not the same as that presented by Major
Hawkes.. Witness said he went to Hawkes.
and obtained the letter because IL was
being used IN New York to indicate that
government officials were promoters of the
enterprise. When he withdrew this letter
from Major Hawkes. possession. witness
had considered the hemp enterprise at an
end.
Senator Cockrell questioned Colonel Heis-
tand closely regarding his relations with
Hawkes. after the letter of introduction
was taken from him. Colonel Heistand
said he had told Hawkes. he wanted moth
ing to do with him the hemp
company. Hawkes. went to the witnesses
office several times. He wanted to see Mr..
Meikeljohn, but witness would not present
him. When HeiStand went to New York he
met Hawkes. at a hotel. Hawkes. told him
he had made ma an an appoint appointment t With Flint.
would attend If he had time, adding: with
a mental reservation"
He explained that this expression meant
that he would think 1t over before attend
ing the meeting.
In a letter TO Hawkes. relative to send
ing him pamphlet about Philippine du-
ties Colonel Heistand had used the ex-
preston ''Of course the needs of the future
will be met as developments require" In
response to Senator Cockrell witness said
pany, but to general conditions in the
islands. The cablegram which Heistand
sent 10 OTeneTdl JUS asking ABOUT site
for a hemp factory it was shown had been
sent as an official dispatch, and the reply
also came as an official dispatch. both
paid for by the government Colonel
Heistand said the fact that he had not paid
for these messages was the only matter IN
the whole transaction that gave him anv
concern. He intended the message 10 go
private dispatch. He had shown il to
Mr.. Meiklejohn, who told him 1t was all
right If sent as a private message
Colonel Heistand was asked about the di-
vision OF the stock and asserted that none
OF the stock was TO go TO any officials of
the government for influence they Nigh.
use in promoting the interests of the com
pany.
Colonel Heistand was still on the stand
when the committee adjourned for the day