New-York tribune., 1901-02-12
A FIGHT SOON ENDED.
TIE WAR REVENUE REDUCTION BILL
SENT TO CONFERENCE.
II-Y Trlf4RAru 10 THE rmDrNE.l ]


been invaded when the Senate under The leader
shin of the Finance Committee, adopted an out
and out substitute FOR the War Tax Reduction ON
sent fl by the popular branch last Decenlner-
Holding that the substitute Was not an amendment
in the technical ana parliamentary sense corfenl-
plated by the Constitution these leaders sought 10
induce Jhe Ways and Means Committee TO show
SIS indignation by neglecting TO follow ordinary
custom and ask for conference. This the COM
Ynittec refused 70 do. the Democratic members
l0ining Chairman Payne in Geprecating the raising
Of hue drawn personal issue between the Two
branches OF Congress TWO other Republican men,
hers. Mr. Hopkins and Mr. Bahcock, declined TO
take sides IN the controversy. IN the House this
morning the radical champions Of the privileges OF
the House made a night against the request for
conference recommended by the committee. Much
indignation found vent and good deal OF constitu-
tioual lore spilled about but when the vote was
taken the contention OF those who wished to vindi-
cate the honor Of the House and check the in
sidious encroacEments of Senatorial privilege found
only th'rty-eiglt supporters. Two hundred and
1hirty-three members voted in favor of confer
ence. Moral Leaders 10 not always lead.
Immediately after The reading OF the Journal Mr..
Payne. chairman of Tie Committee on Ways and
Means. by direction Of the committee, reported
hack tie wer Revenue bill as amended hy the
Senate ana moved Tho adoption Of resolution TO
disagree - the substitute proposed by The Senate
"s az aneudment thereto and ask Tor confer
snCe
Ar Tawusv. p member Of the WAYS and Means
80 as 10 v0i7 separately upon disagreement ard
the request t1r corierence. This was agreed 10,
and the House without division voted 10 disagree
~ The suhstit-te The main question was then
pro -iu-t-tc3 by Fir. Tawuey. The House. he said,
haf Just voted 70 disagree to q substitute for
revenue hill w-i-h substitute had originated I'm
rhc so-o Under the Coust stitution he insisted. the
Senate fad power % originate revenue leEisla-
Won ard De- made "a point 1t order that The House
could 1Ot ask for q conference on a measure orig
n rrrr hrrr ~ rvaasy
10 tho Constitution. without becoming a party 70
the violation made ny the Senate and without
waving its constitutional privilege 10 originate rev
onue legislation. He declared thar rhe Speaker
hao no ri-lt no eHtertain motion 10 ask for
conference on the substitute passed by the Senate
Nh Tawney spoke in impassiored tones, and his
words hrousl.: several Republicans 10 their feet
Nr Hopkins interrupted M Tawney 10 de-
clare that in his opinion the Constitution had not
heen violated IN effect, the Senate's proposition
was OILY an amendment
Nr Towney cited Webster in support of his
oonteation that the House had the exclusive right
70 originate noue- hills, and that the Senate's
rowor limited 10 altering or amending them
Mr.. Richardson maje the point that Mr.. Taw-
neys point q crGer came late, the House
having already considered the Senate substitute
by de ding 10 non-concyr in il
Dr.. Tawaey-Does The hiil which the Senate sent
hork here contain a single line Of The original
In which passed This house?
Air. Elchardscn-No
@TBsTITUrE AND AMENDMENT.
,Ir. Tswney-ls not The Senate amendment IN
tact substitute?
Nr. Rlchardson-What is The difference between
substitute and an amendment?
Mr. Tawrey-The difference Is defined in every
fictiouury. An am.n6uent is a mobilization sub
sttute takes the place Of whatever it is offered
Tor.
Mr. Richardson-I 90 not ask FOR an academic
6ohriiion Of the difference. but the difference in
me- son I nd Is n q
snce.
II mattered not. Mr.. Richardson maintained.
whether the House had considered il "A second or
Soa mac before 9" he House %Sgs aonsdered ae senate
Nr Payne pointed out that every item in the
senate substitute would have been eermane as an
inalN duai amendment 10 the original House bl!l;
bu, ne s-'d ih' point raised by Mt IaT4ey co4!d
lo0 was one Cor thc consciences Of members, not
A,r Crow. The venerable ex-speaker OF the House.
TI6Gse had been irfrincei was 10 be determined by
fbs Hons i+se-f W., ~ r-,zeU hoV-ever de-
careG trat in his opinion The Senate substitute was
violation Of the Constitution has statement was
received win an oUtburst of applause on the Re
lu'Ncan size. II Was t1c ieca oi the fathers, r.
the question taxation. 7, was not just that TWO
Sdn his dlei @ soa ISe be ana G eaea ssI tooe wh
NeN-l ork or iennsy lvania IA laying taxes on The
SECURED in conclusion. il was desired 70 test the
right Of the Senate against that ne House
plauseD
Alr. Bailey Of Texas. conteaded that the proper
method Of procedure Il the House desired 10 pro-
T. - 3salh.t iG' atiats.s Sclon would have been
lion thst il had transcribed its power.
SPEAKER HENDERsON's RULING
Speaker Henderson al this point declared he was
ready 10 rule TWO points Of order he said were
before the House The first was the constitutional
iy ut the Seualcs actions; second. the point that
the point Of order too late. As TO the latter
n decided that il the point could be made at
sl ii could be made any time. As to the former
he said, Il had been decided again and again that
the question was for the House not the
Speaker 10 decide lie therefore overruled the
point OF order This lef, the question as to whether
the House should ask for conference before the
Mr. Mccall % Massac chUsotts, member OF the
Jection TO th- Senate bin not that il further
re- reduced ne taNes on beer ana tobacco, and gave
IL passing n The Senate acJng outside the
cons tuition. = reading of The debates IN the Con-
t,~.I'Hali Il Soi4Feluoi aho Inc long struggle In
Great Britain over The exercise Of the power OF
action pas a usurpation OF power This he sid
was not technical but broad question OF
Mr. ltshag1son spoke Of the need Of getting
sway iioin tec 2n.caliues and of considering the
EroanfE under the load OF millions Of war taxa
Of This enormous burden Now just as this relief
was about ID he realized, lue drawn constitu-
objection prevailed. then the friends of high taXa-
Ton would rejoice for by a technicaliiy. they
% Menia nave sus0enoeo ne reduction OF taxation in
nliesir between me Two houses.
he reduction Of taxation was the vital question.
infinitely uansoending 81 others.
u was time 70 resist The arbitrary course OF me
se,na senate N originating a revenue measure
feather and prunella."
NJ; MT Payne anssweE5ng Mr.. Richardson SAID
the reduction OF taxation and the Republican ma
House and in the senate had iabored 70 ~ bri Inc