New-York tribune., 1901-11-03
LC. CARTER ATCOOPER UNION
THE LAWYERS VERSION OF HOW SHEP-
ARD AND CROKER TALKED OVER
THE NOMINATION.

James c Carter delivered his only speech In
the campaign at a big mass meeting held last
night at Cooper Union, under the auspices OF
the Citizens Union at which the insinuation
which Mr. Shepard made in his last letter to h
Fulton Cutting. chairman of the union ana
which is printed in another column, that the
nomination of Seth Low by the fusion COM
Iaittee had been forced by the Republican party.
was refuted in the strongest terms The letter
was read to the audience by William Hepburn
Russell chairman of the Greater New-York
Democracy. Having come to that point III the
letter where Mr. Shepard said Il had said upon
public and undisputed statements that you ana
the other npn-partisan members of your union
insisted that the candidate should be Demo-
crat, and that you and they yielded TO the nom-
Ination of President Low under extreme press
ure" Mr.. Russell challenged this statement by
saying:
present at that meeting Of the Gommitee M sdfe
Low the choice of the nominating COMMUTE
3e Toed aff a1T Other Iieket felt that in
eisf conId " Vim AcooTdneiy as soon as Mr. Lows
asked that the name OF M Cutting be substituted
NY motion was not opposed by single Republican
althongh MI Cutting is peInocTSs, ,,,Can gS,D con
mittee Immediately took the foor and said: am am
other Repabiicans here viii support any man, re
gaTdless Of party who may be considered me mos mos
ting might have been indorsed and his name sub
5t6 5W sS6@ for i 9 fam IS oR9 s i has Mr.
ting replied by saving that he had been the ShaiTi ar
been fighting Crokerism and Tammany for that
the rieht man for the place Accordingly it is to
Mr Cutting Democrat. that MI Low. a Repub-
hcan, owes his nomination
. After the meeting had been opened by r. Full
n ton Cutting, State Senator y. A. Elsberg
introduced Mr. Elsberg briefly summed up the
issues Of the campaign fight between honest
md dishonest forms OF government The next
speaker was James c. Carter, who spoke in be-
half OF the Citizens Union. Mr. Carter ex-
planned the steps which in his mind led UP to
the nomination Of Shepard, and he told how
powerless he would be in the hands Of the
tigers, were TO be elected In his speech Mr.
Carter described the interview which took place
between Mr. Croker and Mr.. Shepard when the
former rendered The Tanmany nomination to
the latter.
Il was rot present at that interview said
the speaker nor has there been any authorized
report Of it But from the speeches OF MI.
Shepard i have a pretty clear idea of what was
said. The interview started like this:
Croker-Mr. Shepard, 1 offer you the Tam
many nomination for Mayor
Shepard-Mr. Croker, this is somewhat OF a
surprise. Dc you realize what L have said about
Tarnmany Hall in former years?
Croker-Yes, / remember what you have SAID
You were right il saying it. It's all true, too.
lIr Shepard, and that is why We want man
like you 20 heaQ the ticket
Shepard-But understand Mr. Croker, must
have a free hand in the Mayors office
Croker-Certairiy, certainly. Mr. Shepard, l
appreciate your independence, and OF course
would not limit it.
Sfepard-BUt you know this is a very wicked
town; there's lots OF vice here, and understand
TamnlaEy IS responsible for it.
Croker-Its all true: you're right Indeed :
feel little guilty myself ] ought not to nave
been in England so much. ] ought to have been
watching affairs over here.
Sllepard-Well. then. if take the ONCE are
there any promises be made?
Promises of course not But L eX-
Tect. and every true Tammany man would ex-
pect, that you do not try TO break up Tammany
Hall.
SheparG-That ppears to be reasonable
enough No. won't break II up In only cor
rect its misruIe.
Croker-It's a 60 You're the
Now Mr.. Croker knew all the time that the
Mayor without any of the other municipal
Offices is as helpless a child in its swaddling
clothes. He is powerless 10 carry out any work.
either good bad, without the aid of other
Offices. Now I'll prove that TO you. Suppose
Mr.. Shepard is elected. He would not make
appointments without consulting Mr. Croker
When a receives nomination from an
organization IL is q universal custom to consult
the leader OF that party. So if MI Shepard