Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1901-12-28

Scott decision, when Doukluh lnuolhVu
MAT the people OF the territories could
moi lawfully exclude slavery prior TO
tbe formation OF a state constitution
hut that ne should not force Douglas to
saw YES or no. They believed that the
latter would let the subject alone as
much Az possible, IN order not to offend
the South, unless driven into a corner
Mr.. Lincoln replied that to draw an
affirmative answer from Douglas ON
this question was exactly what he
wanted. and that his object was TO
make II impossible for Douglas 20 get
the vote OF the southern states In the
next presidential election
In tho same article, near its close,
Mr.. white says: Perhaps the Charles
ion schlsm would have taken place,
oven II Douglas had not been driven IN.
TO a corner at Freeport and compelled
to proclaim the doctrine Of "unfrlondiy
legislation" but II Us more likely that
the break would have been postponed
d few years longer"
MoMENToUs NIGHT CAUCUS.
Nlchoay and Hay, In their exhaust
I've history Of Abraham Lincoln, make
the following statement
"There IL a tradition that on the
night preceding the Freeport debate
Lincoln was catching a few hours resi-
AT railroad center named Mendoza,
To- which place the conyerglng trains
brought, after midnight, a number OF
excited Republican leaders on their
way 10 attend the great meeting at the
nelghboring town OF Freeport Not
wlthstanding the late hour Mr.. Lin
coins bedroom was invaded by an I'M
provlsed caucus, and the omlnous ques-
lion was once more brought under con-
sideratlon.
oThc whole drift Of advice ran
against putting the interrogatory TO
Douglas, but Lincoln persisted In his
determination TO force him to answer
IT,
"Finally his friends in a chorus cried;
IL YOU do YOU can never be senator
'Gentlemen,' replied Lincoln j am
| killing larger game. If Douglas ans
| ,yers ne can never be President ana
the battle Of 1860 Is worth hundred OF
| this
These quotations from writer's OF the
| highest character. might be supple
rnented by many similar quotations
from others. The truth Of these state
meuts SO far as the writer knows, has
never heretofore been questioned
NEW STORY OF THE AFFAIR
A novel by Winston Churchill, en-
titled "rhe Crisis which has recently
been published, attempts to give an
account OF the alleged interview Pc
tween Mr. Lincoln and MS ifienus OF
the eve OF the Freeport debate
In this account the interview IL as
sumed 20 have taken place on II ran
way train, and the parties as stated
were Mr. Lincoln, Joseph Medill Nor
man B. Judd and Mr. Hill che latter
meaning probably Robert X, HUI, ah'
stephen Brlce, the hero Of the story
The writer tells OF Mr.. Lincoln read
ING TO the gentlemen the four question:
he intended to PROFOUND at FreeporIan'
proceeds with his account OF the IN
teryiew as follows a.
eve don't care about any OF I'M
others" answered Mr.. Medlll put
Tell YOU this il you ask that second on
YOU will never see the United STATE
Senate"
and the Republican party of TIL
state will have blow from when
cannot recover" added Mr., Judd,chair
man of the committee.
mir. Lincoln did not appear to hea
them. His eyes were far away owe
the wet prairie"
"stephen held his breath but nelthe
he nor Medill nor Judd nor Hlll guesse
AT the pregnancy of that moment 10y
we're thew TO know that the fate OF IN
limited States OF America was con
cealed I'm that question-was 10 De ae
cided that day on rough woode
platform at Freeport, III
REsTATEs THE QUESTION,
After some further rhapsodes OF "a
author Of this story, he makes AZ
and Toe and Judd" continue the cor
versation I'm d similar strain, ana NJ
Lincoln reads 20 them the question vi
der consideration
"Can the people of a United Stalt
territory. in any lawful way agaih'
The wish Of any citizen of the Unite
, states exclude slavery from us INN
prlor to the formation Of state COZ
stitution?' 49,. a,,.h,
This evoked according to the auth'
, of "'The Crisis, more warnings az
nrotests from Joe and Judd, to whiss
. Mr. Lincoln offered a reply, III u
I course of which he Is made 70 say
, "Tu tell YOU why I'm In TINS can
naipn--to catch Douglas now,and kes
I Kim ont of the White House IN lSo
ia save this country of ours joe she
l sick" uo. ,loy
: nv can be excluded? questloheu NJ
Judd, ,t,oo,n "th,
! douglas loses the vote OF the gre
siaveholders. the vote of the sol
X. south that he has been fostering CIV
s,nce he has had the itch to be frei
= dent Without the solid south, !
lille qiant will never live In the WIN
!, House And unless I'm mightiiy III
taken steve Douglas has had ms q
g es far ahead as 1860 for some tinie'
T MAKING OF HISTORY
70 Not satisfied with all this, the auth
IN commenting upon the question a
J. answer as they were heard AT freepo
d "JVbot man amongst those VINO hea,
& and stirred might say that these ~,
p ntes even now lasting INTO eVIH.
le bcid the crisis OF a nation mat - ,,
r. hone OF the world2 Not you, 'G Wv
IT Douglas. who slt there smiling, -, 90
90 sternation Is a stranger IN YOU Nv,
J. INT answer that question II you %
g Yes, your nimble wit has helpea y
IT.. out of many n tight corner ~"
pr NOT feel the noose--as yet Cau y
d" not guess that your reply VIII make a., e,
he mar the fortunes Of your country Z.
r. with all that has been quoted a
to much more, for which we nave Il
In space. giving the same undierstandi
e. OF the matter under consideration
may. as has been said seem presuh
mous to question the correctness
Views so generally accepted IL Is
In portant however, that the truth