The Sunday globe., 1901-06-09
PER CENTERS'
The Bureau of Engraving and
Printing Scandal.
JUICY TESTIMONY IN FULL
How The Department ShyIocks Piled Their
Trade Among Their Fellow Clerks and
Stood in with The Boss" on The "DIVy,
Nice Reading for An Honest Public About
Their Servants (p.

How many persons do you suppose
you have borrowed for?
| borrowed S2O for Mr.. Pentland In
the engraving division, and l got $40
for John Hunt in the examining divi-
sion, and there was another man
Louis S. Schoheld, an engraver, | got
$40 for him several times; probably
about three times.
Do you know the rate Of interest he
charged on all these sums7
Yes, sir; ten per cent.
Per month?
Ten per cent a month; yes sir.
And the the latest transaction was
when?
Not later than three months ago,
sir. About that time there was a cir
cular brought over here from the De-
partment restricting that, and then he
seemed to get a little frightened over
1t, and he asked me to try and help him
to get these fellows to give him his
money back that he wanted to quit.
He wanted to quit then, and l don't
think Mr.. Pentland has paid him yet.
He told me when he was on leave last
June that Mr. Pentland owed him. l
think, $50, and he has not paid him
yet.
Is that Robert Pentland?
Yes, sir.
You were the go.betweon?
Yes, sir. Mr.. Schoield would ask
me to step over and ask Mr., Erwin If
he could let him have $40, and Mr..
Erwin would take 81 out Of the $40
and would give him SO.
Did he give pay receipts?
There was one or two cases where
there was promissory notes, but not
more than two.
Was there a promissory note and
pay receipt too?
No, | think | only saw two pay re-
ceipts in all these transactions, the
regular Bureau pay receipts. There Is
a young man up in the wetting division
by the name of Albert Neale, he would
like to make some explanation. prom
ised him l would give you his name.
He is a civil-service man, and he says
Mr.. Murray has put him among the
laborers. All know myself is that he
did come in under the civil service,
He passed the examination?
Yes, sir; but they didn't give him a
position as skilled helper.
He came in as skilled helper?
Yes, sir; and he asked me if | would
give you his name.
And they assigned him as a laberer?
Yes, sir,
~sTINIoNY OF ROBERT W. PENTLAND
ROBERT W. PENTLAND, examined,
stated as follows
O. Please state what position you
occupy in the Bureau
A. Transferer.
Have you ever borrowed any money
of Mr.. Erwin?
Yes, sir
What interest did you pay?
Well, I paid about 10 per cent.
Did you borrow from anybody else,
Mr.. Pentland?
Not at any usurious rates Of interest
Did you borrow any from DR.. Beech?
No, sir.
Or from Mr.. Castle?
No, sir.
Only from Mr.. Erwin?
Yes, sir.
How large amounts were they usu-
ally?
Five and ten dollars.
No more than that?
That is all at time.
For how long were those loaned to
you usually?
Well no definite period.
Until the next pay day?
No, sir; there was not any specified
time.
That was taken out the next pay day
was it not?
No, sir; would pay him myself.
Did you ever give a ticket, your per-
sonal ticket, to secure him2
A pay ticket? Yes, sir.
A pay receipt?
Yes, sir; merely used 1t as a note,
that is all.
How recently have you borrowed
money from Mr. Erwin?
Not for two months.
When you did borrow, that was the
regular rate, 10 per cent?
Yes sir. You asked me the question
in regard to Mr.. Beech. When | an.
swered it | was under the impression
that you meant DR.. Beech. There are
two Beeches here; one is D. W; I
don't know the others initials.
Where is the other Mr. Beech en-
ployed?
In the accountants office, Mr. La
masures room.
And where is the other employed?
He is a stOrekeeper.
You referred to which one.
thought you gentlemen referred
to the storekeeper.
Did you borrow money from the
other Beech?
Yes, sir; that is the answer | want
ed to correct. I gave a negative ans
wer
How much money did you borrow?
think it was 500, about six months
ago.
How much did you pay for it?
paid about 10 per cent.
What acknowledgment did you give?
gave a note.
Is he in the office now2
Yes, sir; I think So That was the
one you had reference to.
Mr.. Hendricks. We had reference
to the storelseeper.
Mr.. Brown. We meant DR.. Beech.
Do you know whether this Beech
makes a practice Of loaning money?
No, sir; this was done on the out
side, It was not in the Bureau at all.
TESTIMONY OF LOWELL c. WILLIAMS.
LOWELL G. WILLIAMS examined, stat
ed as follows;
@. What is your positonY
A. am occupying now the position
OF distributor OF stock.
Is that your regular appointment?
No, my regular appointment Is clerk.
We want to ask you some questions,
and whatever you say to us is conf
Dental. Have you ever borrowed any
money of Mr.. Castle, Mr., Beesh, or
Mr. Erwin?
Yes. sir; I borrowed soma money
from Mr. Erwin once.