The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1901-12-10
TILLMAlY Tits
With M'LAURlN
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had voted for the war with Spain, and
declared that in the same spirit in which
he had cast that vote he felt that he
was compelled to support the admlh1s-
tration that conducted 1t.
GLORIED IN. THEM.
.If these are the only charges, saio
he dra ms.tically, they are true, anu
glory in thern'' He said he had not
wished 10 vote against his party upon
the question of ratification OF the peace
treaty. and had it not been for the re-
onen;n.- of hostilities in the philippines,
he would have deferred TO the OPINION
of his colleagues. But, he declared.
the dictates of reason and conscience
ehou,a not be stifed by the party lash. =
with bitter words Mr.. McLaurin then
proceeded to excoriate the new leaders
of the Democracy, who, he said, had
guided the party TO its destruction
through the last six years and who were
trying to cruelty those who would seek
to draw the Democratic party back to
its old allegiance.
When Mr.. McLaurin took his seat Mr..
Jones. of Arkansas. TOOK the floor to
make a statement. Some of the state
Inents MADE by Mr.. McLaurin, N1r. Jones
said, he considered reflection upon him
concerning the incident to which Mr..
McLaurin had referred. At the extra
session Of the Senate last spring he haa
been asked by the caucus officer tor the
list of Senator'S who were to be sum
mcned to a caucus, and MI. McLaoi ~ :
name being mentioned. he (Jones) nao
said he would himself see the Ssi'atoi
from South Carolina I met hl1n III VIC
cloak-room said Mr.. Jones, ana, re-
calling the fact that he had not attenoeo
a Democratic caucus for more than TWO
wears asked him what his status was.
He replied that his relations with the
party were such that he thought 1t "oulo
be embarrassing for him to enter the
Democratic caucus. 1 then SAID 10 MIN:
You do not wish to be invited theh
and he replied certainly
"As to the charge Of Interior motive on
nv part continued Senator Jones,
an? content to treat 1t with the coiiteinpl
it deserves. It is q notorious 1acl Which,
every one seems to understands
fine Senator from South Carolina thal
there has been no Democratic caucus
at this session of Congress nave no
hesitancy, however, in saying in re-
cent conversation with a leading member
on the other side l said to him that |
did not think the Democratic caucus
could undertake to provide commlttee
assignments for the Senator from Scuth
Carolina
TILLMAN TALKS.
Mr. Tillman, of South Carolina. was Oh
his feet when Mr.. Jones concluded. In
his Characteristic way he announced that
while his name had not been mentioned,
he realized that he was the cause of it
all. He said he would not at this tine
make an extended reply. Briefly then he
reviewed the controversy between him
self and Senator McLaurin, which led to
the joint tender of their designations to
the Governor of South Carolina last
spring, and told of the Governors sug-
gestion. that the designations be with
drawn
Mr. Tillman said Mr. McLaurin en-
joyed the enviable distinction of being
the only one vino had withdrawn his
after Offering it. AS to Mr..
charge of conspiracy to hui
initiate him by barring him from the
caucus. Mr.. Ti1lman called
attention to the fact that he had not been
in Washington during the extra session
of the Senate last spring.
This conspiracy he said. lis a, dream
up by him. 1t is the creation
OF his own BRAIN
In conclusion, Mr.. Tillman with a
sweep of his arm adjured his Democratic
mot to fret" at such charges,
that they were conspiring to discredit
Mr.. McLaurin at home. because "his
crowd was demoralized. cowed and
whipped
Mr.. McLaurin made no reply to Mr..
Tillman. but he arose for a moment to
reply to Senator Jones, to say that ne did
not desire that there should be anything
personal in his charge that there had
been an "ulterior purpose" in anything
he had done. II think that was justi-
aed in saying what I did,, said he. II
accept his disclaimer
Il disclaim nothing" retorted Mr..
Jones. without rising from his seat. II
simply contradicted.''
Il thank the senator for his courtesy
observed Mr.. McLaurin. bowling with
mock Difference as he took his seat.
Mr.. Hoar. OF Massac husetts. addressed
himself to the legality of the designations
which the South Carolina senators haS
sent to the Governor of their State. He |
said that a man could not be kept in
office against his will, and raised laugh !
~ observing that in his opinion neither
IF the South Carolina senators had a
light to address the Senate If the state
rents made by Mr.. Tilln1an were correct
TILLN1AN'S CHALLENGE.
In reply to the sally, Mr. Tillman said
lie had himself been of the same opin-
on. although he was not a lawyer, and
n withdrawing his resignation from the
Governor of the State he had decla red
hat he was not Withdrawing it at ALL
He suggested that a legislative commit
ee should look into the matter. as he
hould enjoy so much washing the dirty
incn at home
Mr.. McLaurin jumping to lis feet, de-
dared in ringing tones that he was will |
ng to meet his colleague at any place |
md at any time for the discussion Of the
ssues. Thereupon in the most dramatic !
ashton Mr.. Tillman CHALLENGED his col |