The Telegraph-courier. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1888-1946, 1901-10-31

he heard different aldermen say he got
that. He said that Alderman O'Brien
got six or seven hundred dollars. He
went on and stated that Alderman
Scholey got two hundred dollars. He
also stated that Alderman Weier told
him that he got four hundred and fifty
do1lary; and also stated that there was
a thousand dollars to be divided up be-
tween three; that is. between Alder
man Caster, Alderman PirsCh and
Alderman Smith. / asked him how it
was that Alderman Scho1ey got the
smallest amount, and he says he ought
to be satisfied with the trade that he
got out of it. In regards to this one
thousand dollars, he stated that it was
paid to Alderman Pirsch by Clausen,
and that he was to divide it equally
between the three.
0. Did he say whether or not he
ever received anything directly from
Clausen himself?
A. Yes sir.
0. What did he say?
A. He said he received fifty dollars.
Q. Do you happen to know wheth-
er that fifty dollars was included in the
one-third of the thousand?
A. He said it was, to the best of my
knowledge.
Q. Did you say where the agree
ment, if any, took place between these
three and C1ausen?
A. He said that it took place in
.a,1Cap'S saloon
0. Did he state when he received
the rest Of the money, other than the
fifty dollars?
A Yes sir.
Q. Where aud when?
A. He said that he received a hum
dred dollars up ia the City hall
Q. BY whom was that given to
him?
A. BY Alderman Pirsch.
O. And the rest?
A Was given to him by Pirsch IN
Pirsch's blacksmith shop, back of the
smokestack.
Q. Go on and state any further
conversation that you had with him at
that time. Did he say what this money
was paid for?
A. Yes sir.
0. What was it?
A. For his vote upon this street
railway franchise.
any, there was between these 'others
and Clausen?
A. Yes sir.
0. What are they?
A. To secure their votes upon the
passage of this franchise.
O. Any other conversation?
A. About that time he thought it
was about all he wanted to tell, so
Reinardy opened the door and came
into the parlor.
0. What then took place?
A. Caster wanted to know where he
came from. Reinardy said to him from
back of the door.
0. What then took place?
A. He took off his hat and threw it
on the floor, and he says, 81 am
trapped" and he asked me for advice,
as a friend, the best way out Of it. /
told him to make a clean breast and
tell the truth. And he wanted to know
what that was. told him I couldn't
give him any absolution; that he would
have to see somebody with more au-
thority. He wanted to know who it
was, and | said, Mr.. Buckmaster.
0. Previous to the making of this
statement did you offer him any in
ducement or make any promise to hin? ?
A. No sir.
Q. Did you make any threats?
A. No sir.
0. Did you then send for me?
A. Yes sir.
O. When did you next have talk
with Mr.. Caster in regard to this mat
ter, if you remember?
A. It was on the following Wednes-
day, May 9Th.
0. Tell all the conversation you
had at that time.
A. He stated that he give his wife
two hundred dollars, or he thought it
was two hundred dollars, and the bal
ance he spent with the boys. He said
that there were different police watch
ing him, and that he was afraid to go
out. I asked him what for, and told
him that he didn't need to be ashamed
or afraid of anything as long as he Was
going to tell the truth. So he said
that his brother-in-1aw, John Ortiz, was
kind of watching him and he felt kind
of afraid Of him, and he went on and
stated that his ,brother-in-law, John
Orth, and Attorney Furthman came to
his place in a hack.
O. What took place?
A. He said that they tried 70 in
duce him to deny the whole state
ment; that they would all be clear and
also would clear himself, and it
wouldn't cost him one cent. told hih1
to think of his innocent child and wife
and tell the truth, and he wanted to
know if anybody was watching him,
and told him there had been detect
ives in town. bid him good night
and l walked in.
He said to me one time, think it