The Montgomery advertiser., 1901-06-19

l provides that in his message he shall set out specifically the item to which he objects and file the bill with the
 Secretary of State instead of returning
 1t to the House.
 MT. Brooks-1 offer an amendment. The President--The Secretary will
 read Section II.
 Section 14 was read as follows: Sec. 1i. The Governor shall have power to approve or disapprove any
 Items of any bill making appropria-
 tions embracing distinct items. and the part or parts of the bill approved shall be the law, and the Item or items dis
 approved shall be void, unless repassed
 according to the rules and Limitations prescribed for the passage of other bills
 over the Executive veto: and he shah
 in writing, state specifically the Item or items he disapproves, setting the
 same out in haec verba in his message:
 but in such case. the enrolled bill shall not be returned with the Governor s | objection.
 The amendment of the delegate from
 Mobile was read as follows: Amend Section n of an ordinance to create and define the Executive Department by
 striking out the same and inserting the l following Section II. The Governor
 shall have power to approve or disap- | distinct items of appropriations and the portion of the bill approved shall be
 be the law. He shall in his message specifically set out in full as the same appears in said bill the item disapprov- ed, which shall be void unless repass- ed according to rules prescribed for the passage of other bills over the Ex- ecutive veto. and the enrolled bill shall not be returned with the Governors objections.
 Mr. Brooks-I do not offer that section as reported by the committee. On the contrary, favor the provision of that section. do not think that I can be fairly changed-I hope I shall not be considered as being actuated by a spirit of hypehcriticism, when say that that section can be condensed very materially to it's advantage. think every provision in the Constitu- tion ought to be brief and as succinct- ly expressed as is consistent with per- spicuity. Now. I have endeavored to condense the provisions of that. sec ton. and think I have succeeded in doing so. retaining the full substance reported by the committee and obviat- ing what seems objectionable to some members here the Latin words fin haec verba," which, although appropriate and commonly used in court proceed ings, thought ought to be omitted for obvious reasons in the Constitu- tion which ought to be expressed in the common mother tongue. in the yernacu- liar with which we are all familiar Therefore, 1 propose that the amend ment which I have just had the honor to introduce, be substituted for the section as reported by the committee.
 Mir. Jones (Montgomery)--I would state in behalf of the committee that the draft of this section was taken from the old Constitution. with 8 few words describing the practice. have dls- covered great tenderness about LatiH words and in behalf of the commit tee, we will accept fin so many words" in place of '1n haec verba," but our friend seems to forget that there IS Latin used in the Constitution. and that the former Constitution makers seem ed to think that the people had some knowledge of Latin, for in some of the sections they speak of 'habeas corpus and quo warranto" and "mandamus.
 Mir. Robinson-I desire to ask the gentleman a question: suppose the item that is returned to the House IS not sustained, what official record would you have of that in the oftice of the Secretary of State?
 | fMr. Jones (Montgomery)-No other than what you would have in any other case of veto. It would appear on the Journals and the Secretary would know that item was passed over the Govern or's veto.
 MT Robinson--You would have the enrolled bill with that item disapproved of by the Governor in the Secretary of states office and you would have the action on the veto in the journal!
 Mir Jofies-There is some slight in- congruity either way. but it seemed highly improper to the committee 10 have a bill before the House that was already a law and with which the House had nothing to do. It should be regulated one way or the other, put the committee has no set desire about that matter.
 are a few ~hanges made. want to know what they are and want to know whether "in haec verba" Is in the old Constitution?
 MT. Jones (Montgomery)-Does the gentleman understand what Tn haec'l verba' mGans! t..
 MT. Long CWalker)--A great many don't. fl.
 MT. Jones-I didn't ask about "a great many people," asked if the gentleman understood their meaning
 MT. Long CButler)-Will the gentle man of the committee accept the amendment to strike ort "in haec yer ba" and insert 'in full?"
 Mir. Jones (Montgomery)-Yes; send up the amendment.
 The resiient--The pending question Is on the amendment of the delegate from Mobile. and. unless the amend ment of the delegate from Butler ap- pears to amend that amendment, 1t will not be in order at this time.
 MT. Long (Butler)-I understand the l committee has accepted my amend ment.
 The President-The amendment will | have to come before the House, unless 1t is an amendment to the amendment | of the delegate from Mobile, which was offered as a substitute, would not be | in order.
 Mr. Long. (Butler)-Then I move 1t as a substitute from the amendment of the delegate from Mobile.
 MT. Brooks-I don't well understand | how that can be I understood the | gentleman from Butler to offer to | amend the Latin words employed by | the committee. The whole frame work | of the section by my amendment, and he cannot move to amend my amend ment by something entirely foreign to it. don't see how his amendment ap- plies to or touches my amendment. don't see any words in my amendment to which his amendment could apply.
 The President-The question is T the amendment of the delegate from But Ter
 MT. o'Neal-1 move to law that on the table. -,