The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1901-08-28
FOR CHICAGO DETECTIVES TO
TURN IN BILLS FOR BOGUS
EXPENSES
TESTIMONY OF THE CHIEF
Makes a Plain Statement of System
Adopted by the Accused OFF,
GERS to Line Their
Pockets.

CHICAGO. Aug 27-The connection of
Sergeant Cramer, Detective Tracy and
Lieut.. Joyce with the bogus expense ac-
count which has enVeloped in scandal the
detective bureau and it's chief, Capt. Col
leran, was told today by Chief Of Police
O'Neill, who took the stand during the
afternoon session of the civil service
commission, sitting as the trial board to
investigate the matter The denouement
created a Sensation, particularly when
Chief O'Neill told of the alleged con-
fessions of his subordinates, which they
had in the main denied on the stand OF
saved themselves from repeating, on the
grounds of self-incrimination. The chief
also told how Capt. Colleran and Lieut.
Joyce, as he alleges, received their share
of the spoils. The only thing not revealed
was the source of information that led
to the unearthing of the scandal. Atter-
ney Cash, representing Lieut.. Joyce made
many attempts to confuse, tangle and
twist the evidence of the chief of police.
Cash charged that the chief was making
false statements, and said that the wit
ness was actuated by an unfriendly feel
ing toward Lieut. Joyce, all of which
Chief O'Neill denied Indignantly.
THE CHIEFS EVIDENCE.
Chief of Police Francis O'Neill took
the witness stand shortly after noon and
related
had had with Detective Cramer and Ira
cy, and which led him to file the charges.
The chief testified that Cramer told him
the actual expenses in the Larkins case
had been $27, and that he had given s.
to Sergeant Gallagher and s. to Lieut..
Joyce. The chief said Cramer told him
he took two S. bills into the front office
and laid them on Capt. Collerans desk
before the chief of detectives. He said
he did not see COlleran pick up the mon
ey, nor did COlleran say anything when
he laid the money on the desk,
Chief O'NeilI also related how on Cra-
mer's second visit to him he had said
that Lieut.. Joyce offered to pay back the
s. he had received from the alleged fake
expense account.
He then told of Tracy's interviews. The
conversations covered practically the
same ground Tracy had admitted max
ing out the expense account, and had
told him that after paying actual ex-
penses he had turned over the balance
of the money to Cramer, who was on de-
tail with him and who was an older Off
Ger and knew more about distributing
money Tracy had said that Joyce told
him making out bogus expense accounts
was dangerous, but that it had often
been done Chief O'Neil said that he
had asked Tracy if he did not know it
was wrong to make out expense accounts
when he had not been out of the city
and Tracy said he acted on Joyce's or
der.
COMMON PRACTICE.
At the morning session Lieut..
John McWeeney was on the stand,
being queried by Corporation Counsel
F'yffe as to his knowledge of the disposi-
ton of the balance of the $3.50 not act
ually used in bringing Larkins from
Cleveland to Chicago. Attorney Cash,
who represented Lieut.. Peter Joyce, the
officer on trial stated that he was try
ing to show that such manipulation of
expense vouchers was common practice
i'll the department.
Yes" said Mr.. Fyffe 'ft is this com
mon practice that has led up to this
hearing. The purpose of this hearing is
to break up this common practice, which
is very wrong.
Sergeant Cramer was a most unwilling
witness, and after almost every question
either said he forgot the circumstances
or declined to answer, claiming that it
might incriminate him.
Mr. Fyffe asked him what was done
with the money
''You believe, then, if you answered, it
would incriminate you?" asked Mr.. F'yffe.
A chorus of objections broke out from
the defense, but Cramer blurted out,
THAT is my belief"