The daily morning journal and courier., 1901-05-22

spoke He said: "There must be il
 this something that touches the hear
 and the reason of taxpayers or vol
 wouldn't be here There is a constitu
 tional right of public meeting. If the
 discipline of the police force can be
 broken by a public meeting then tha
 discipline wont stand anything. If the
 commissioners are unjustly removed
 then the courts can reinstate them. Two
 able bodied competent officers of the department have been removed without reason. Is that good government ol bad government? Is it good govern ment to add to an overburdened city pensions for men able to do duty. We have too much tinkering with the char ter. It is better to show as citizens of New Haven that we are able to govern
 ourselves.''
 MT. Gay desired to speak again, but the chairman ruled that since there were so many present desiring to speak
 no one could speak twice until all were given a chance to be heard and then if the meeting gave permission second speeches would be heard Alderman J.
 Edward Miller moved that MT. Gay be
 given the privilege of the floor, but the
 motion was lost.
 MT. Miller then said: "The Big Four
 has not packed this meeting, but it is
 the other way. OHisses). The right of
 free speech is not accorded. (Hisses).
 If there was less tinkering with the city
 charter the commissioners would not
 have the right to retire these men," l Attorney J. P. Goodhart next spoke.
 He spoke against the two resolutions,
 more especially against the one intro i duced by MT Hamilton. He said that
 he was in nobodys pay, but that he
 was there to say what seemed to him right. Popular opinion was not always
 safe guide, he thought, and he cited instances to prove his assertion. Walter Leigh spoke for MT. Hamil- tons resolution. He said We come here, business men, to do what Is right.
 We don't want captains who have never.
 been called before the board to be su- perseded by men who have been called
 before the board. If public officers don't do their duty, remove them. Are we here for politics? No. I believe that to the victor belongs the spoil, but not such spoil as this. I believe that we are all here to- night to do our duty and what we believe is right. I don't question any mans motives I move the adoption of that resolution because believe that it will clear the atmos- phere. Tell the mayor that there is ten years of good service in these men who have been removed. believe that Cap tain Brewer and Captain O'Keefe are more experienced in their places than anyone younger men who can be put in"
 MT Gay again desired to speak but motion to allow him to speak a second time was lost.
 Ex-Mayor Farnsworth seconded MT. Carroll's resolution. He said: Tn my opinion the citizens and taxpayers of New Haven are getting just as good government as they make for them selves; sometimes they get better than they deserve. I came here expecting to see a lot of mad people and to say to make them stay mad, but people don't stay mad long. That pen sion bill is fraud. If any of you want to hear about 1t I will hire a hall and tell you something about it that will iiie1hC yOu lli1l eiiltt lliihe yOQ stay ultlN l It has become a fad to laugh at An thony Carroll, but I wish that there were more citizens of the city who took as much interest in city affairs as MT. | Carroll does, and he and I are not pos ing as very dear friends How many | men in New Haven deserve pensions | just as much as any man just because | he served on the police force?"
 He then told of instances of pension ing and told of one man, strong and healthy, whom he met walking down Chapel street in rain storm one day 2 man under pension from the police department. And" said the ex-may- pr, The was never worth d--n in the department Then there is Captain Mac Hyde, driving around the city with Hyde, driving around the city with am glad of it."
 Continuing, he said: "The efficiency If the force is interfered with by the pest citizens in the community. If charges of inefficiency are brought against policeman these citizens chase he commissioners and ask to have that nan saved. The worse the man, the nore grievous the offense, the more re- pectable the people who chase the com nissoners in his behalf. They are in his instance giving you as good service ( IS you deserve. You have not taken are of things. You had a chance on his."
 On motion of Patrick Cunningham 1t 1 vas voted to allow MT. Carroll to speak ( .gain for five minutes. Mir. Carroll ac- { epted the opportunity and spoke for ( .is resolution. { Dr. J. H. Kelley spoke strongly 1 gainst the adoption of the resolution ( introduced by MT Hamilton although t e said that he did not object to MT. f ,arroll's resolution. He said: "Those J our commissioners did their duty, and | id it as they saw fit. There have been C imes when the newspapers have con- C emned men honest and honorable. [ he board of education awhile ago re- S loved one of the principals. Was an c meeting called then? That I nan was removed for causes best f nown to himself. These men are plac- a q on an honor list, for it is an honor $ st by the terms of the act' F Thomas H. Linahan, of the National | II asket company, said: Every citizen ught to have something to say in natter of this kind. I know both of lese removed captains to be efficient len, capable of doing duty" t