The times., 1901-04-06

vestigadon, were told by Mr.. Pickford
that Hopp would be at Pickford's office
| at o'clock that afternoon. At that hour
the detectives were secreted behind par
| tition in which holes h@d been made to
permit them TO see and hear everything
| that should occur. After the last inter
view Wednesday. the witness followed
Hopp TO the Twentieth Century Cafe,
where Hopp joined Hudson, who was sit
ting behind the cash counter. When the
detectives walked in and asked the two
defendants to accompany them to Police
Headquarters, Hopp endeayored to dis
pose of the note for Sc COO and the receipt
for $3.50, which Pickford had given him.
Helan called McNamee's attention to the
move and the papers were taken in
charge.
IN response to question from Mr. Lips
comb the witness stated that he did not
pretend to recount all that passed be-
tween the men as he was in a cramped
position and could not hear all that was
said. He said that the hole in the partt-
ton was about 12X14 inches, with an over
coat hanging over it.
Detective Helan said he did not hear
any statement made at any time that
States Attorney Talbot was 20 receive
$4,000 in case of conviction, but he did
/ hear il stated by Hopp that Hudson was
to receive $ll ,00O in case conviction was
secured. Where the money was to come
from he did not hear. After further
questioning from Mr. Lipscomb, the wit
ness said: Il don't know what was the
matter with Hudson that day, but he
seemed 'dopy.' ="
Miss Dudley Gladmon. the cashier at
Mr. Pic1fords S store, told of having re-
ceived a check from Mr.. Pickford. 1t
WAS for 5000 and was payable to her
order. She was told in Hops presence
to take the check to the bank and get 1t
cashed as Mr.. Pickford wanted to give
Hopp the money for Hudson. She went
across the street and waited. After she
saw Hopp leave the store she returned
the check to Mr.. Pickford.
Detective McNamee testified that when
he placed Hudson under arrest the lat
ter said: This is pretty bad case for
me" The witness did not understand the
remark as an acknowledgment of guilt
When the witness entered the cafe Hud-
son was not asleep. but was sitting be
hind the cashiers box. Hopp was Just
passing the box when the cashier called
to him. He stopped and talked TO her
moment.
This closed the case for the Govern
ment and Judge Mackey moved to dls-
charge Hudson, as, he said, no conspiracy
had been shown.
Mr.. Lipscomb followed Judge Mackey
and referred to the case as the most eX-
traordinary one that had ever come to
his attention. He said that IL was the
first time in his life that he had ever
seen a witness in one jurisdiction jailed
by court in another jurisdiction under
such circumstances and pending trial
in which the witness was an important
factor. He contended that none of the
evidence had connected Hudson with
conspiracy, but that everything pointed
to a conspiracy to do away with Hudson
or impeach his testimony in such a man
ner as to destroy its weight when the ar
son case should come to trial at Rock
vile.
Prosecutor Mullowny contended that
he had shown Hopp's familiarity with the
proposed action of Hudson some months
before Hudson's affidavit which induced
the Maryland grand jury to act; that
he had brought them together on various
occasions, and that probable cause had
been sufficiently established to warrant
him in asking the court to hold the men.
Judge Scott then overruled Judge
Mackey's motion to dismiss Hudson.
This was followed by another motion to
permit the defendants to take the stand
in their own behalf. In denying the sec
ond motion Judge Scott stated that it
was optional with him whether he should
admit evidence for the defence in pre-
liminary hearing, and that he could not
see that such evidence in the present case
was competent. Judge Mackey noted an
exception to the ruling.
Mr. Mullowny then stated that he had
been instructed by General Anderson, the
District Attorney, to ask the court to
fix the bond at 50 0e0 each. That amount
was considered excessive by the defence,
and Judge Scott compromised on $1,000
bond in each case.