Evening star., 1901-10-05
Exciting Incident in the Hemp In
quiry.
R. HAWKS MAKES APOLOGY
He is Several Times Admonished
by Committee.
TODAY'S TESTIM MON Y


investigating the charges against Col. H.
o. S. Heistand. His accuser, Erastus L.
Hawks, was examining Colonel Heistand,
when the latter spoke of Hawks having
"whimpered."
What? Whimper!' calculated Hawks.
Eyes, whimper," retorted Colonel Heis-
tand
ME whimper?" persisted Hawks, half
rising from his chair
Yes, you," returned Colonel Heistand.
you lie!'' shouted Hawks.
He was rebuked by the committee and
apologized to the body, but not to Colonel
Heistand.
When the HaWley committee, which is
investigating the charges preferred by Eras-
tus L. Hawks against Col H. o. S. Hell
stand, U. S. A, met this morning in the
committee room of the Senate military
committee Senator Cockrell read tele-
gram from Louis B. Jackson, saying he was
subpoenaed as a witness in case which
will be heard in his home city Monday and
would occupy all next week. He announced
that he would have come to Washington
at once II not for this.
Major Edward Howard who made the
copies of Hawks papers at his request, ac-
was recalled.
He was asked by Mr.. Hawks If he could
Identify an Endorsement witness had made
on copy of the notes of the alleged agree
ment with Mr. Alfred De Buys regarding
the hemp port information. Witness said
he wrote the Endorsement while Mr.. Hawks
was in the Philippines after the latter had
been removed from office Asked what he
papers after his removal from Of
fee: about having in his Glow
ard'S possession copies Of Hawks
papers. and Hawks knew nothing about
his having made them, witness replied
II never said anything of the kind"
Replying to Mr.. Needham witness said
Hawks felt very much embittered against
Gen. Dudley, and asked witness to see Mr.
for Hawks. Witness did SO and Michener
agreed to see Hawks at his, Michener's,
residence.
Hawks had told witness that If he didn't
get a settlement from the War Department
he would take the matter before Congress.
Mr.. Hawks objected to this line Of ques-
tioning, but Senator Cockrell overruled it..
Continuing, witness said when Hawks came
home from the Philippines he was very
angry and said he wanted to have his rec
ord cleared. Hawks told witness he would
be satisfied if he could get money settle
ment Believed he mentioned $500 as the
amount. but it may have been $3.50 He
said if his record was not cleared he would
take the matter to Congress.
Did you not have charge of my affairs
when 1 was in the Phiippines?' asked Mr..
Hawks.
You had no affairs that 1 knew Of"
said Mr.. Howard II merely said l would
act as the protector Of your wife and child
in case Of necessity
Gov. Allen a Witness.
Gov Charles H. Allen Of Porto Rico,
former assistant secretary Of the navy, was
the next witness. He said this matter was
t,ic
when he was called up on the telephone by
a Mr.. Hopkins, a New York lawyer, who
said man named Hawks was endeavor-
ing to secure subscriptions to a hemp COM
pany. representing that witness was inter-
ested In the company.
Witness Immediately informed Mr. Hop
kins that any such representations were
fraudulent. because he had never had any
interest In the matter.
II asked Mr. Hopkins to ascertain more
fully what the man Hawks was doing, and
a couple Of days later Mr.. Hopkins came to
me and informed me that Hawks had been
making his representations to Flint. Eddy
Co., but that he thought the matter was
dropped"
Mr.. Allen said he at once went to Gen.
Corbin and informed him Of the matter. He
then saw the Secretary of the Navy. Wit
ness was provoked that his name should
have been connected with such an affair
He afterward understood that Hawks was
representing himself as an agent Of Col
II want to deny positively that I ever
offered to take any stock in any such COM
pany. have no recollection of ever having
had any conversation with Col. Heistand on
such a subject. The first I ever heard Of
the matter was when I received the tele-
phone message from Mr.. Hopkins
|. Col. Heistand's Testimony Read.
Senator Burrows then read from Colonel
Heistands testimony as follows:
Senator Burrows-What did you say to
Secretary Allen in your conversation with
him?
Colonel Heistand-I outlined it. said to
HIM Mr.. Secretary. we are getting up
an organization for the manufa cture OF
manila hemp in the Philippine Islands We
think 1t Is going to be very good thing,
and l am endeavoring to raise some Of
the stock, and when the time comes may
l count on you for taking some stock?"
SAID: You are not going to be used for
advertising purposes or to influence any,
body else to take stock or anything Of
that kind" and Mr.. Allen said: Now, is
this all right and good thing?" I said:
Yes; ! can show you the figures" He
said: "All right, come around" And he
gave me the impression-General Corbin
used an extremely good phrase yesterday"
Senator Burrows-What did he say?
Colonel Heistand-He said: "All right; I
think you may say yes
Senator Burrows-That is what he said?
Colonel Heistand-Yes. 1 said VERY
well. Mr.. Secretary, am much obliged to
you"
Senator Burrows: "Was any one else
there?"
Col. Heistand: mo, sir; it was over at
his office-about noon / should say"
Senator Burrows: After you had the con-
versation with General Corbin?"
Col. Heistand: mo, sir; before"
Senator Burrows: Then you went to
Secretary Allen first"
Col Heistand: Yes, sir; think-I know
I went to Secretary Allen first
said In that interview as to the amount
Of stock he was to take2' .
Col. Heistand: Il mentioned $lO,OOOn
Senator Burrows: What did he say?''
Col. .Heistand: He said, Yes; think YOU
can say yes, or Very well. think you may
say yes IL 1T is all right"
Emphatic DeniaIs.
Ibid you have any such conversation, y
asked the senator.
Il have no recollection Of having any
such conversation"
did you say 1t looked like good thing?'
mo, SIR
did you tell him come around laterr"
| mo. SIR
did you ever authorize him to represent
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