The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1901-02-26
some LIVELY DEBATES
SPIRITED ARGUMENT IN THE
HOUSE.
Emmeluths Firm stand by Party eau
cus-Makekau Is Roasted and Inde-
pendents Are Out-Voted for once.

pendents Are Out-Noted for once.
The afternoon session of the House
yesterday was marked by the first
really lively debating yet heard and
by the first victory the Republican
leaders have won against measure
emenating from the Independents. The
session was also the occasion of a
clear-cut statement of what a member
afterwards called government by eau
GUS" from Emmeluth.
Speaker Akina read the names OF
standing committees, nominating three
members for each committee. Robert
son called attention to the rule provid-
ing that each committee should consist
of five members.
The chair sustained the correction.
Emmeluth Und), said it had been his
experience that the larger a commit
tee was the less work it did. II would
rather amend the rules to conform with
the committees than change the com
mttees to conform with the rules,
said Emmeluth. He then moved that
the order of the day be taken up, and
amendments of rules followed thick and
fast.
The amendments came mostly from
Independents. The more important
ones proposed were such as would
strengthen the Independent majority.
Emmeluth proposed section 40 be
changed so that simple majority might
carry the previous question, instead of
three fifths, Beckley Ond), proposed
the same change and motion was
made by BeCkley to allow three-tifths
instead of two-thirds to suspend the
rules
Emmeluth proposed an amendment
that allowed committees who are max
ing reports to employ counsel if neces
sary. He also proposed adding a stand
ing committee on miscellaneous af-
fairs.
Dickey CRepD. proposed unanimous
consent to suspension of rule SO, re-
quiring a days notice of charges in the
rules. Consent was given and the
House went into immediate considera-
ton of the various amendments of
which notice had been given.
Dickey (RepO, opposed the amend
ment reducing standing committees to
three members
A proposal of Makekau Oem. Ind.),
to have secret voting in the house and
a motion of Emmeluth Und), to
amend the rules so that a simple ma
jority could carry the previous ques-
ton were the occasion of a long dis
cussion in which Makekau received
severe roasting and replied in a strange
plea for secrecy in voting, and after
which Emmeluth had his first defeat.
Mdhehdu Sdlu IHdI the country lOW
had a secret ballot at the polls and he
didn't see why there should not be Sc
cret balloting in the House. 1.-THE rules
now provide that when a man wants
to vote he is prevented from carrying
out his independent opinions by outside
influences which are watching to see
how he votes" said Makekau. 81 think
we should start the system of secret
voting here and now. Under a secret
system it would be possible for MEM
bers to have the votes public by call
ing for ayes and noes"
Emmeluth Qnd.), was the first to sit
on the Democratic independent idea
and he did it quite heavily but not
nearly with the weight of wrath that
Beckley Gnd.), brought to bear on the
offending member of the fused parties.
Emmeluth said that Makekaus pro-
posal was an endorsement of the idea
suggested by another member that the
members were to be moved by outside
influences
citizen to insure him from coercion at
the polls" said Emmeluth. "The
member who makes this proposal, as
every other member, has made certain
pledges These are binding and must
be indicated by action in this House
and the only way constituents can
know of action is by public expressions
VI OlJlIlOu anu pubic NOlGS mere.
Beckley Gnd), considered Makekau's
proposal an insult to very member,
being an insinuation that the members
had voted as Influenced by outside
forces He declared that the
members should vote openly for the
public good and he sailed into the I'M
fortunate Makekau with very heavy
oratory. "If the honorable member
from Hawaii is afraid to vote in pub
lic," said Beckley, "let him resign his
seat and give the people of Hama
kua a chance to have a representative
who is not afraid to carry out his duty
as representative of the people,"
Robertson (Rep) saw a chance to get
in a neat dig at the Independent eau
Gus. He thought Makekau had meant
no insult to any members, but that he
might have intended to indicate that
some members would not be prevented
from voting as they thought by reason
or some agreement or other at a eau
Gus such as rumor reported was be-
ing regularly held. The Republican
thought, however, that Makekau was
wrong, and that voting should be pub
lie, also that members should not be
led by the actions of others.
Emmeluth rose to reply at the first
mention of the word caucus. II was
elected by the Independent party"
said he, land l consider myself and
every Other MEMBER so elected bound
by it and bound to every decision it
may make in caucus. l say right here
and now that l shall vote for every
measure that the caucus declares right
and proper"
Makekau then made an explanation.
He said that members might be forced
to vote as they did not think 1t is
said that Makekau is one of several
who felt forced to do so on the motion
to eXpel Cooper Five or six men who
voted for that motion had promised
votes the other way but when the
party men led off with votes to Dust
| Cooper not one had the nerve to bolt
Makekau said he too had been elected
as Home Ruler, but there We're Ho-
nolulu Home Rulers and Hilo Home
/ Rulers, and they might not agree, and
/ he didn't know which class he should
| follow. He wanted to see the wishes
of the Hilo brand of Home Ruler car
ried out, even if the Honolulu mem
/ bers didn't like it, He also wanted to
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