The Montgomery advertiser., 1901-06-16

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 MT. deGraffenreid--For that purpose move a suspension of the rulas. in order that the resolution may be laid upon the table.
 The rules were suspended and upon a viva voice vote being taken on the adoption of the resolution, a division was deEla 1ded and had.
 MT. Fang (Walker)-I ask for veri- fication of the vote by the ayes and noes.
 Mir. ONeal Nauderdalo)-I make the point of order that the gentleman IS too late.
 The President-It is too late to call for the ayes and noes in :he opinion of the chair.
 Mir. Long Cwalker)-I move for a verfication of the vote by ayes and noes.
 MT. Presidential the opinion of the chair it is too late for the gentleman to call for an aye and no vote after the chair has stated the question, and the Convention has voted, and the re- suit has been announced.
 Mir. Greer (calhoun)-Is it too late to ask for a verification? ssk foi a verification of the vote.
 Mir. Long (Walker)-I respectfully refer you to the rule that gives any member the right to call for an aye and noe vote. before the announcement of the vote.
 The President-The gentleman will please refer me to the rule.
 MT. Long (Walker)-I read rule thirty-six. The ayes and noes shall only be ordered when the call therefor is sustained by thirty delegates.
 I do not know in the absence of any rule anything to prevent a member on the floor from calling for an aye and no vote. It would be nothing but right and proper that an aye and no vote be recorded whenever called for. do not desire to be obstreperous in this matter. but it does seem to me that 1t is a simple matter of common justice. and if thirty members on this floor want an aye and no vote they should have it.
 The President-Rule thirty-siX says: The ayes and noes shall only be crder- ed when the call therefor is sustained by thirty delegates. MT. Browne-T make the point of order that a call for the ayes and noes is not a motion, and Is always in order before the vote is announced, whether , inc vote is by division, or whether 1t is | viva voce.
 The Presidential the opinion or the Chair. when the Chair stated the ques- i. tion before the house, it would have been in order for any member to have moved for an aye and no vote, but no member made such a motion. and the .Chair stated the question, and a vote was taken. and then a division was called for and the chair put the ques- 1 ton upon the call for the division. and that question was put and voted up- | on and the result of the vote was an nounced In the opinion of the Chair it is then too late to call for an aye and no vote.
 Upon casting up the 'ote 1t appears there are fifty-four ayes and thirty l seven noes, and the notion
 MT. Greer (Calhoun)-Mr. President, ask for a verification of the vote.
 The President-The Chair is asked for a verification of the vote. As many as favor the adoption of the resolu- ton
 Mr. Browne-Mr. President, call for the ayes and noes, upon the verifica- tion.
 The President-The Chair has ruled A call for the ayes and noes is not in order, If the gentleman desires to have the call for a division taken over again. the Chair will state the ques- tion.
 MT. Greer (Calhoun.)-I would like to have the vote verified MT. President.
 The President-How does the gentle man wish it verified?
 MT. Greer-I do not know how 1t can be done except by an aye and no vote, but if the Chair rules otherwise, I ask that 1t be done by a rising vote. ! MT. O'Neal Oauderdale)-I make the point of order tha tthe gentieman's mo- tion is simply in the nature of an ap- peal from the decision of the Chair.
 MT. Greer (Calhoun)-I do not wish to be understod as appealing. from the decision of the Chair.
 The President-Has the gentleman any reason to believe that the secretary has not counted the vote correctly?
 MT. Greer (Calhoun)-I think there is some mistake as to the vote, MT. President, but do not say 1t Is on the Secretary. dt.
 The PresidentIDoes the gentleman claim there is a mistake in the count, or does the gentleman think that upon a second vote some member may change his vote?
 MT. Lomax-I rise to a point of order.
 The President-The gentleman will state the point of order.
 Mir. Lomax-I submit that unless the vote is taken by the yeas and nays, there is no means provided by which a Verification of the vote can be had.
 Mr .Oates-I am not in sympathy with the motion at all, but the Chair will remember when the rules were reported I made inquiry on this point. The Chair may not remember 1t, but I think some of the members will, and it is certainly the practice, and think the. parliamentary rule, that the ayes and noes may be demanded, and that is the highest verification that can be taken. I know that is the universal practice in Congress, under the code of laws which is recognized by that body, and made the code in this country.
 As stated the universal practice in Congress of the United States, and under Barclays Code which is adopted by that body and is incorporated into it's rules, is that the yeas and nays may be taken as the highest veritica- stance, just as here, division was called for by the delegate from Walker, and the members arose pro and con, and were counted, but that is always considered, or may be considered as doubtful, and the ayes and noes may be demanded, even when the result is announced by the Chair. if the demand is made at once before any other pro- ceedings be had. While I differ with the Chair, I do it most respectfully, and do not rise for the purpose of taking any appeal but I think that on re- hection the Chair will see that the rule is susceptible of this construction and is the better one in our practice. It arise in future votes.
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