The daily morning journal and courier., 1901-06-13

No sir"
 This was contradiction of MT. Lee!
 testimony
 Witness also denied that he told MT
 Lee that Clarke would be against the change if Williams wasn't promoted.
 Here the meeting at Avery's house on that evening was reached. Shana- han and Landers and witness talked about police changes. "Ona of then wanted to know what I thought about it. I told them I wanted to better the service if I could. They stayed ar hour and half We talked about the proper persons to be promoted. Wher they were about to leave MT. Landers suggested that all meet again the fol | lowing evening in his office in Orange street, just before the police board s 1 meeting"
 Well, tell us what you did that night | T met the gentlemen there and show ed them the resolutions, and they read them, one after the other, and they said they were all right, The question came up who would be appointed in their places and the witness said that each man proposed man and that he (witness) proposed the name of Ser geant Hayes, to be one of the cap tains. He said that he supposed it was all right as he told Mir Lee about it on the afternoon of the day previ- ous, MT. Avery said: Some ono said something about the men having to take a physical examination"
 Then you drew up the resolutions for that purpose didn't you?"
 "Yes, sirl''
 Was there anything said about them being on the veteran reserve?"
 No sir"
 Was there anything said about their being on the veteran reserve and about the positions they might hold then?"
 T don't think so"
 Was there anything said about put ting them on the permanently retired lst?"
 NO. sir"
 "After the meeting in that office where did you go?"
 ITO the police office"
 State what you did''
 Here the witness said that the usual routine work was transacted and that the matter of the resolutions then came up. q asked the commissioners Mir. Lee for one, anyway, if they thought 1t would be a good thing, and he said that he thought it would if you could get the right men. I then heard MT. Corey say something about the pension bill, and I think he said that he didn't believe in it?"
 Was there anything said to the may or about the legal objections to the resolutions?"
 Well, there was copy of the laws on the table. and we passed it around among us The mayor was asked if he thought there would be any objection to the passing of the resolution and placing the men on the veteran reserve and he said that he didn't think there was'
 Was there anything else said about it?"
 T don't recall''
 Was there general voting on the different resolutons?'
 Yes"
 Tn the office of MT. Ianders was there much of discussion on the mer- its of the different men?'
 Yes, there was"
 Gan you tell what was said or have you any distinct recollections about it?"
 No, I can't state just what was said'
 Before that time had there been any application from members of the veter- an reserve for a pension?"
 Yes, about seven, I think"
 Did you ever vote to place any of the three men on the retired pension ist?"
 No, sir
 Mir. Wolfe then said that if that was so it was contrary to the record, and the matter was looked up. It was shown that the vote was taken, at the meeting to place these men on the per- retired list. State what was said about that mat -er' will you?'
 "Mr. Clarke said that 1t was not the intention of placing these mem on the 'etired list" Who did he say that to?"
 ITO MT. Corey"
 Here the witness said that Captain | Brewer called him up over the tele- phone and asked him if he had heard | lbout the rumors about retiring him. Witness said that Captain Brewer said | T want to have you look out for me- md MT Avery said that he would, Was there anything further said?" | Not that l know of"
 MT. McGann stated something about | laving a conversation with you, was hat SOP"
 "Yes.''
 What was it?"
 Well, he wanted to know if it was rue that Captain Brewer was to be re- fred, and I said that I had not heard f it.'
 Were those the exact words?" No, I think that he said he wanted ne to look out for that fellow down own and I said All right I think" "Did you ever have any animoaity gainst these officers?"
 No sir not in the least while I have cen a commissioner"
 Was there anything said ever about aying political debts?" No sir. never"
 Here the attorney asked the politics f the men retired and the men who uestion took up a short time but mounted to little. The next question asked was "Did