The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1901-01-05

are serious objections to it. Each dis
trict now has it's district judge, deputy
sheriff, school agent, road board and
poundmaster, simple and inexpensive
form of government. Unless there are
also county governments established
! on the other Islands, we will have to
also maintain the Territorial govern
ment, and l do not see that we will
need a single Territorial official less
unless there are county governments
on the other Islands.
There will be great shortage in
revenue to carry on the Territorial
government, so that Territorial taxa
| ton will not be reduced. The city of
Honolulu desires to have the benefits
/ of the city government and should pay
| for it, The outlying districts will re-
, ceive no material benefit, but taxation
will be doubled.
IF we begin this experiment with
the city of Honolulu, it will be easier
{ later to take in Eva and Waialua
F., than it will to afterwards restrict the
city limits.
J IF we propose to bring in the other
districts, our bill will be likely to be
defeated in the Legislature, but if it is
carried through this Legislature, and a
similar government is given to Maui
and Kauai, etc, when these country
districts learn of the expense, they
will repeal it in the next Legislature. -
/ C. NJ. White asked if his motion to
postpone the vote until next meeting
was pending, and on it's having been
declared seconded, it was decided to
be the pending topic.
A. V. Gear favored a full expression
but deplored the delay, fearing the
Charter Committee would not be in
] the running for a charter as time
was precious.
! Philip L. Weaver thought members
knew what was on the tapis, and
should be able to vote at once
Charles B. Wilson thought the com
mittee should have had it's report
printed. so that members might digest
it and vote intelligently.
G. M. White then said, II would like
to state that at the last meeting there
was report made by Mr.. Davis which
was not in line with either of these
reports. / understood it as the con-
census of opinion that the city was to
include only Pacific Heights, Kaimuki
Tract, and what is generally known as
the city of Honolulu. This is surprise
to me. This is the most vital part of
the whole matter. 1t is highly impor-
tant to know what the city of Homo
lulu will comprise. That settled
there is nothing to delay US after that
George A. Davis thought it very
simple proposition, and one that could
be easily settled. He said both plans
We're perfectly feasible. 1t was simply
a matter of name. Whether city coun-
Gil or board of supervisors, their work
was Identical.
A V. Gear said it would simplify
matters and do away with a county
government for Oahu and Honolulu In
addition to the city government The
latter plan would mean city taxes.
county taxes, Territorial taxes and
federal taxes.
J. a. Gilman favored a chance to dis
cuss the question.
Mr.. Smith and Mr.. Stewart then
arose, and both claimed the floor Mr..
Smith started to talk before either had
been formally recognized by the chair,
and Mr.. Stewart interposed a vigorous
Mr.. Chairman" sit down." said Mr..
Smith, looking over his eyeglasses and
in mock Impotence, and Mr.. Stewart
sat down with a very bland smile,
which produced ripple of merriment
around the room. When Mr. Stewart
got his chance, he objected to a GER
tain paper stigmatizing the proposition
OF city coextensive with Oahu as
preposterous," and Mr.. Smith inter
posed with the remark that it was a
slight on the dignity or the committee.
Mr.. Stewart declared it was simply a
question of boundaries and he did not
want the delay charged to the sub
committee on draft who had a skele-
ton charter already mapped out.
j. d. Pratt, however. Favored letting
the, matter lay over until next week.
believing time would be saved in the
long run.
j. H. Boyd talked about referring it
: to vote of the people. He and one
or two others who were not present are
evidently not in full sympathy with
the present plan of the committee.
The motion to defer a vote until next
Tuesday then passed almost unanimous
ly.
w. O. Smith stated that he thought it
would help matters to defer a vote 1t
would allow discussion in the public
prints On motion of Mr.. Boyd, Messrs.
Stewart and Pratt, having been allowed
leave TO go home discussion was also de-
ferred until next Tuesday. H. NJ. Mott
Smith of the committee on statistics re-
ported that his committee had pretty
complete hgures on the cost of govern
ment in Honolulu proper and as soon as
the department reports We're in. which
would be Monday, they would have full
statistics
F. L. Weaver reported an excellent list
OF references on matters relating to city
government available in town.
iheir report was ordered typewritten
for distribution among the committee
j. "A. Gilman reported the finance com
mittee had done nothing
George A. Davis wanted instructions to
the committee on draft to go ahead. He
sad two skeleton drafts Were now rea-
dy.
w. Q. Smith claimed the matter of
framing charter depended largely on
the question of boundary. The education
iproL.e-n would be different under a city
than under a county government Should
there be county board of health or
only city health officer was another.
Mr. Davis hao asked if the intention
was to daily along doing nothing, or to
really go ahead with a charter, and Mr.
Smith said, replying, Il do not intend to
play with the question; 1 am in earnest
In my efforts to secure a city charter fol-
Honolulu. Ii this committee is not here
: for business, viii resign from the com.
mittee. 1t is a waste of time, however
to write charter for Honolulu and
then have to change 1t.
The Territorial Government can moi
turn over any property to the city. Only
Congress can do it.
L regret that there was not more dis
cussion here tonight We want to know
definitely what we are going to do IL
my mind the only safe thing is to star
with the city of Honolulu"
A. V. Gear agreed with Mr.. Smith. wv