The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1901-10-04
REISTAND ON STAND
TALKS OF HIS CONNECTION WITH
HAWKES. AND THE HEMP
COMPANY
he DECIDED TO DROP IT
Came to the Conclusion That He
Wanted Nothing Further to Do
With Hawkes. or His
Company.

WASHINGTON, Oct 3-The cross
examination of Mai. Hawkes. was con-
tinued at the Heistand investigation to-
day by the senate military affairs COM
nlittoe. MIR. Needham, attorney for Col.
Heistand endeavored to fix dates rela-
tive to the delivery of the ITO whom
it may concern letter. The witness was
not clear as to dates.
Mai. Edward Howard who had charge
OF making the copies of the correspond
ence turned over to Heistand's attor-
neys, contradicted Hawkes. relative to
the copies. Hawkes. had said that he
had no Knowledge OF the copies being
made. Howard said the copies were
made at the request of Hawkes. and
turned over to him. He said that
Hawkes. wanted the copies to protect
himself as he was afraid he would not
be fairly treated by the government.
On cross-examination by Maj. Hawkes.,
Mr. Howard insisted that his state
ments were accurate.
Lieut. Col. II. Q. S. Heistand, the
principal in the case then took the
with Hawkes. and explained how he be-
gan negotiations with him as to the
hemp company.
At 4 meeting of several persons in
terested he (Heistand) had said that he
wanted some friends 10 have an oppor-
tunity to take stock in the company,
mentioning the names of Gen. Corbin,
Assistant Secretary Meiklejohn and
Assistant Secretary Alien. Maj Hawkes.
mentioned the name of Assistant Attor-
nev General Boyd. As to the list of
names of persons in his own handwrit-
ing. Col Heistand thought he wrote the
list as Hawkes. mentioned the names.
Witness preached the matter to Gen.
CCrbin, VINO then seemed to think fav-
h11t
0uently told witness ne could not go
into the company. Gen Corbin had said
that it would be all right for him (Heis-
tand) to go into it. but he did not think
it would be proper for him (Corbin) to
do So That had ended his discussion
of the subject with Gen. Corbin. Mr.
Allen had told witness that if the plan
of organization was all right and prop
er he would take some stock. Assist
amt Secretary Meiklejohn had respond
ed to his proposition in about the
same manner Col. Heistand men
toned $4,000 worth of stock to be taken
by each one approached. They were
assured their names We're not TO be
used for advertising purposes, and there
was no intimaticn that they were to re-
ceive the stock for nothing. Witness
had one further conversation with Mr..
Meikleiohn in which he Heistand) had
prepared.
Col. Heistapd then related his recol-
lection of the ITO whom it may con-
Germ letter, how it was written and
how the signatures We're obtained. He
said the letter did not contain the titles
OF Meiillejohn, Boyd ana himself. This
letter. he said, was not the same as that
presented by Maj. Hawkes.. Witness
said he went TO Hawkes. and obtained
the letter because it was being used in
New York to indicate that government
officials We're promoters of the enter
prise.
When he withdrew this letter from Mai
Hawkes. possession, witness had con-
sidered the hemp enterprise at an end.
Senator Cockrell questioned Col Heis-
tand closely regarding his relations with
Hawkes. after the letter of introduction
was taken from him. Col. Heistand
said he had told Hawkes. that he wanted
nothing to do with him or the hemp
company. Hawkes. came to witness Of
fee several TIMES He wanted to see
Mr. Meiklejohn, but witness would not
present him. When Heistand went to
New York he net Hawkes. at a hotel.
Hawkes. told him he had made an ap-
poirtment with Flint, Eddy & Co., and
witness told Hawkes. that he would at
tend IL he had time, saying, with a
mertal reservation" He explained that
this expression meant that he would
think it over before attending the meet
ing.
In letter to Hawkes. relative to send
ing him a pamphlet about Philippine
duties, Col Heistand had issued the
expression "Of course, the needs of the
future will be met as developments re-
cuire." In response to Senator Cock
rell, witness said this had no refer
enee to the hemp company, but to gen
eral conditions in the islands. The
cablegram which Heistand sent to Gen.
Otis asking about site for hemp
factory it was shown had been sent as
an official dispatch and the reply, also
came as an official dispatch, both paid
for by the government. Col Heistand
said the fact that he had not paid for
these messages was the only matter in