New-York tribune., 1900-12-13
MR.. CARNEGIE AGAINST TREATY.
HE BELIEVES IT DANGEROUS TO ADMIT
ENGLAND TO ANY PARTICIPATION IN
THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CANAL.

To the Editor Of The Tribune.
Sir; II there were other reasons against
the ratification OF this treaty. yesterdays discus
sion as II appears in The Tribune this morning
would be sufficient.
Senator Lodge. in charge Of the treaty. and
Senator Foraker. a lawyer OF high repute. differ
upon one fundamental point; Senator Beveridge
asks for information upon three questions each
one important. upon the bearing OF which he g
unable to form an opinion
Much has been said about the Clayton-BuIwsr
Treaty. as IL treaties were eterne II Is the
common practice to denounce treaties when con-
ditions change. Russia was debarred FROM the
Black Sea by a solemn treaty. but when con-
ditions changed she announced her Intention TO
disregard 1t. and there was no objection. Mr.
Blaine held the true position. When he was
with me IN London there a dinner party
with some OF the leading statesmen OF Britain
present. among them Mr.. Chamberlain Ths
conversation turned upon Mr.. Blaine's disagree
ments with England on the Clayton-Bulwsr
Treaty. I shall try to give you the gist Of the
conversation. "1fr. Blaine. you have not been
friendly to England" IT don't see why you
should say so: I have always been friendly with
England" You did not show 1t IN the CORE
spondence about the Clayton-Bulwer Treaty"
well when I read the correspondence passing
between the two countries found Her Majesty
was always telling the President what she 'sx-
pected.' and the President was telling her what
he 'ventured to hope When replied. I told
Her Majesty what the President expected"
"Ah," exclaimed one. you admit. then. you
changed the character Of the correspondence
mot more than conditions had changed" Mr..
Blaine replied. When the Clayton-Bulwsr
Treaty was negotiated we were a small. weak
country and expected TO borrow the money to
build the canal from you; now do not ask
your money, and we have grown greater in
population than Great Britain. Gentlemen, the
Republic is past the stage Of venturing to hope
when any other nation tells what II expects.'
but If Her Majesty ever ventures to hope we
shall not fail 70 be as courteous and venture to
hope in return
1t is unsafe for the United States to allow
the slightest participation, or the shadow OF
foundation for claim to participation, IN any
thing pertaining to this continent.
The TransvaaI Republic was independent but
it allowed Great Britain the right to object to
any treaty which IT might make with foreign
Powers, and upon this slight cooperation with
Britain that country has lost it's Independence
and has been annexed. If we give the slightest
color to claim Of any European nation to have
anything to say about the canal which Ameri-
can money is to build American soil. shall
make grave mistake. and besides this. we shall
be false TO the doctrine OF the Republican party
hitherto in this matter.
When we come TO attempting to hold posses
sions IN Europe or In the Far East there may be
difference Of opinion, but upon the policy OF
keeping this continent for the American Powers
upon the continent. and Of permitting no further
increase of the foreign power. we should be
unit. Far better no canal than one under the
Hay-Pauncefote Treaty! But there viii be a
canal: Britain needs only to see that we are IN
~t,a -T7a ha ANA
and nothing else. ANDREW CARNEGIE
New-York Dec u 1900.