The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1900-06-06

| to question of privilege. Mr.. Foraker
| was recognized and said the remarkable
statements made by the Senator from
South Dakota required some reply. IL
was an Ohio matter he said and the Ohio
Senators felt abundantly able to take care
of it. He had intended to speak himseif,
he said, but would yield to his colleague.
Mr. Hanna said he felt like offering an
apology to the Senate for pursuing the
subject further, and he would not do so
if he did not desire ito show to the Sen
ate that the whole matter was con-
spiracy-a part of a concerted plan to
work up some political capital
There was a pretty lively scrap in
Columbus, said he, good humoredly. 1T
was due partly to the Democratic party
and partly to the work of traitors to their
party and to their country, like the Sena-
| tor from South Dakota"
Mr.. Hanna said these charges had been
published first in a Democratic newspa-
per of Columbus, and fully and completely
denied by him at the time. He reterred
to Senator Burke, of Cleveland, as one
of the chief conspirators in the Senatorial
election and denounced him as a traitor
and scoundrel," who had as Repuol-
can lent himself to the conspiracy against
his party and subsequently had been dis
barred and disgraced in his native city
Then he read clipping from South
Dakota newspaper IN which Mr.. Pettlgrew
was characterized. as traitor TO MS
country and to his State, and declared
! that he did not represent the people OF
South Dakota.
THAT" declared Mr.. Hanna, vehement
ly, lis my accuser in the Senate OF the
United States, and that is the estima-
ton in which he is held by the people OF
his own State. AS to the political phase
of this matter-and that is all there is IN
it, / do not believe the Senator from
South Dakota thinks his harangue Will
bring any tangible results to his beneht.
He does not believe that the people Will
regard him as the Moses OF the Demo-
cratic Populistic combination who is to
lead them out of the wilderness. HIS
Nominations with which he has hlled the
Record can have no effect upon thought
full men. | have often sat in my seat
listening to him and thought him insane
Much of the stuff he has uttered on this
floor is the veriest rot"
when it comes to personalities, holly
asserted Mr.. Hanna, in conclusion, Il will
stand up with him and compare my char
acter with his. He may tell what he
knows about me and then with en-
phasis on every word-'I will tell what |
know about him."
! Mr.. Carter again addressed the Sen
ate.
"As the statement reflects upon me,
said he, 81 assume it my privilege to re-
| ply First, it is said that Mr.. Cramp
made the statement that he contributed
$500 eco to the Republican Campaign
Fund in '92. do not believe Mr.. Cramp
ever made that statement. He cou.l not
| truthfully have made it and believe him
to be a truthful man. From the Senator
from South Dakota has come the first
intimation that Mr.. Cramp ever gave
such an amount to the committee and that
any part of that purported contribution
had been diverted wrongfuliy."
; Mr.. Carter said the reported converse
ton between himself and Mr.. Pettigrew
was pure creation of the imagination
as he thought the conversation between
Mr. Pettigrew and Mr.. Cramp as reported
by the former must have been. If Mr.
Pettigrew had ever informed him that
! Mr. Cramp had made any insinuations
! that the funds had been diverted Mr.
Carter said that his own sense of honor
would have impelled him to call upon
Mr.. Cramp for an explanation.
He said he wanted to sound note of
warning to the Democratic managers
concerning Mr.. Pettigrew. Even if such
conversation had occurred there had been
a tacit understanding that they were sa-
cred because private.
Turning to the Democratic side Mr..
Carter said ''If these alleged converse
| lions ever had occurred they carried with
! them between gentlemen tacit under
! standing which no gentleman anywhere
would disregard. Brethren on the other
! side of this chamber you are to hence
| forth associate. God knows how long,
| with the gyrating, political career of the
| Senator from South Dakota. Ever keep
: in mind the statements made by him to-
! day. statements which l brand in so far
| as am concerned. as untrue. The SEN
! ator was mistaken in the person with
whom he talked His memory is at fault.
But if with Mr.. Cramp the conversation
| did occur, ! should admonsh those who
manage political affairs on the other side
to beware and constantly bear in mind
! the old adage Those who lie down with
| dogs may expect to get us with fieas'.
| Mr.. Pettigrew's reply was brief. He as
serted that his conversations with both
Mr. Cramp and Mr.. Carter had occurred
as he had related. He said he had made
no charge that Mr.. Carter as Chairman
of the National Republican committee
had diverted the funds. He also repeated
| that the reported conversation with Mr..
! Carter had transpired. at took place,
+, he said, here in the Senate chamber
| Mr. Foraker then read extracts from
+, the minority report of State Senator
| James r. Garfield on the investigation
/, into the Ohio Senatorial elections which
he believed would satisfy the people If
| the United States that the investigation
| was not one of serious import
Mr.. Bacon then continued He con-
, tended that it was the duty of Congress
to remain in session indefinitely until this
important legislation was enacted. The
trusts knew their friends, and Mr.. Bacon
predicted that when the campaign began
the Golfers of the Republican managers
would be full to running over with contri-
buttons
Mr.. Teller suggested that if Mr.. Carter
) felt aggrieved over Mr.. Pettigrews
charges he could. secure an investigation
by a committee of the Senate