The Irish standard., 1900-06-02

traitors to their country? I don't think
have ever stated that.
Is that your belief?-answer my ques-
ton. No; l won't 1t is irrelevant.
Mr.. Campbell-That will do me just
as we'll.
Witness-My views are we'll known.
Mr.. Campbell-Did you publicly state
that the Irish soldiers in the employ
mcnt OF the queen i'll South Africa were
shipped from Ireland by force with
chains upon their wrists? don't know
! ii | used that exact language. l said
some words about "by force"
Did you say anything about "man-
acled wrists? Not that l recollect. |
believe some were.
You are not an Irishwoman? | am
an Irishwoman.
Was your father Irish? He was.
1.-TWO whole regiments OF these SOL
diers surrendered without striking a
blow, openly betraying the English side.
Besides this, individual assertions oc-
Cured in considerable numbers. con-
graduate myself on these betrayals' -
you said that? That is not my Ian
guage.
Did you say the substance OF it?
That is not my language. I certainly
said l was very glad.
Have you announced your gratihca-
ton at Irish soldiers bctraying their
queens colors? Mr.. COLES words are
false and libelous.
Did you on the 16tl, OF April take part
in a ceremony called the Napier,
Tandy commenoration? 1 did.
Did you on that occasion describe the
citizens of Dublin who welcomed her
majesty as all that were low, base, con-
temptible and mean in the Irish ma
ton? 1 did.
That is your view of the Irish people
generally, in SO far as they took any
part in welcoming the queen? That is
my view OF those who welcomed her.
"She was the symbol of greed, injus-
tice, selhshness, and tyranny, and all
those who were influenced by those SEN
timents have come forward to welcome
ller"?- l think so.
She was their natural representative?
think so.
Have you publicly denounced Mr..
Redmond as traitor? Not that l re-
member.
In your opinion is he traitor? No
You gave him an invitation to meet
you after his speech in the house Of
commons? l believe some of the Dub
lin citizens did.
On your oath didn't you send it?
did not
Did YOU cause it to be sent? I did
not, but I approved of it.
Asking him to give an explanation
Of his conduct-of what he said in the
house OF commons? 1t was quite a
right thing to do.
think you also appeared in the
streets OF Dublin on the 18th OF Deem
Der last? On what occasion?
1t was the occasion of demonstra-
ton that was proclaimed? Yes, l at
tended the proclaimed meeting.
think on that occasion you made
some very strong personal reference to
Mr.. Chamberlain? Quite possible
Qaughter).
And your idea OF what my friend
calls your position in Irish politics" is
that it gives you a license to libel and
defame any person whose views differ
from your own? Not to tell untruths
about them.
You think it was true to say that her
gracious majesty is all that you have
stated? I stated that she may be- ("
Oh, now you are getting beyond me.
Let me see what this refinement means.
will go back to that. Listen now.
(Reads.) However vile and selfish and
pitiless her soul may be-" May be-.
You do not think it was? I did not
know. May be.
You didn't know, and didn't care? l
said it may be-"
Did you care? I don't say l cared
| very much.
There is no "lnay be" in this sem
tcnce: "She always has been ready to
cover with her rova1 mantle the crimes
and turpitude of her empire? That /
believe.
Isn't it your belief that every Irish
man who takes service under her maj
esty the queen is a traitor? To his
own country.
And that that applies all round to
soldiers and sailors? Soldiers and sail
ors.
Did you on any occasion describe the
police of Ireland as uniformed ruffians?
I don't know that / used that Ian
guage.
You think it is true? Inrmany cases.
And you have no hesitation in stating
it? Have / stated it? Have you got
it there? (Laughter.)
Do you take any part in preparing
the leading articles of this United Irish
man? l sign my articles.
asked you have you been in the
habit of taking part in the preparation
of the leading articles of that paper?