The evening times., 1900-01-09
HIS MEMORY At FAULT
Witness WhiteSide Fails TO Re
member Important Details.
Continuation of the Clark Case Be
fore ts.e Senate Committee on Priv
iIeEes and EIections-SIftInE tke
Charges of Bribery-The Cross
Examination by MIR. Faulkner.


Senator Faulkner, coUnsel-in-chief for
Senator William A. Clark, took up the
cross-examination OF Frederick Whiteside.
one OF the leading Witnesses for the me-
morialists. against Senator Clark. and the
examination Of whom was begun Oh Friday.
Directly after Senator Chandler had cali
ed the committee 10 order, Representative
Campbell. who is conducting the case for
the memorialistl, handed some papers to
Mr.. Whiteside for Identification. Tho
witness said: 'oue Of these is the envelope
which was handed 70 me by Mr.. Welcome
containing the money for II. II. Carr The
other is an envelope which contained $500
for Jaqueth."
The envelopes we're then offered in evil
dence After the introduction of the pa
pers Mr.. Faulkner resumed the cross
examination Of the witness. He read from
Whiteside's testimony in the Welcome dis
baTment proceedings before the Supreme
Court Of Montana, in which I'm one part
It is reported that the writing on the
Carr envelope was in Cars own hand,
and in another part where Wbiteside testi-
fed that Carr told bjm the writing was
that OF a man whose name was Steele.
The Interview With Welcome.
The question was asked: Please FIX the
time when you saw Welcome in relation
20 the bribery Of Garr?"
1T was in Mr. Welcomes room, in the
Helena Hotel, about January Q, 1S99,' re-
piled the witness
when did you see Carr and advise him
90 see Wellcome2'
three days before my talk with Welcome"
Did you not testify positively before the
Supreme Court OF Montana that you had
this talk with Carr on Sunday January S?'
i may have done So.
The witness was asked many questions
concerning interviews with Welcome, Carr,
and Steele. The purpose Of this line Of ex-
animation was 20 compare [he testimony
given by Whiteside before the investigat-
ing committee Of the Montana Legislature
and the grand jRFy. and that given under
direct examination before the Senate Com
mittee on Privileges and Elections on last
saturday. Another reason for this line OF
enquiry was 20 d-aw from Whiteside posi-
tive statements as 20 the time and places
at which the interview took place. that
these statements might be rebutted by the
men with whom Whiteside claims TO have
had the conversation
The Money for Carr.
did you not say before the grand jury
that Welcome gave you the Carr money
IN an envelope. and then did you not testi-
fy here in your examination -in-chief that
welcome gave you the money and that
sou then put It In an envelope FOR Garr?'
asked Mr.. Faulkner
THAT raay be, as ] have not clear recoI-
lection of.th testimony I gave before The
grand Jury was the reply.
The witness was asked what he did with
the money intended for Carr
4 put it in a safe deposit box
did yoI not tell the legislative commit
tee that you had that money in your pos
session.
'I may have"
why did you neglect TO tell the inves-
tigatiug committee that you had that
money in safe deposit bOX2"
Il do not remember.
Did YOU tell a representative Of the
Anaconda standard that you secreted
this money In your ROOM
Il don't think I did. though between the
time Of removing the morey from the safe
deposit box and handing s. over 10 The in
vestigatiug committee, 1 cid secrete il in
my room. by tacking IL On the bottom Of
a bureau drawer
NeiU and Johnson.
Mr.. Whiteside was asked if he had ever
alluded TO Neiu or johnson in any other
investigation of the bribery charges.
The witness replied that he could lot
recall having done SO.
Did you ever before you came to Wash
ington connect the name Of +. ". Kuphal
with the bribery Case2"
Il do not recall having done so, but that
NAV have been because. as ! have said be-
fore. the Investigations in Montana were
not thorough"
DO you not know that before the cleo
tion and before the Legislature met, Kup-
hal was a supporter Of Senator Clark
Il do not"
Don't you know by general report that
Kuphal was a supported Of Clarke
1T was understood that the delegations
from Lewis and Clark counties were fav-
orable to Senator Clark
Did you make any effort 10 ascertain
the truth Of what was told you about the
alleged bribery OF Kuphal?'
The answer was in the negative. The
question Of the charge made by Whiteside
against Luddy, a member Of the legisla-
ture. was then taken up. The witness
could not tell with any degree Of certainty
as 30 how he heard that Luddy had been
fixed"
some Important Questions.
Did you not state before the committee
that you had done nothing 20 further the
election of Mr.. Clark to the Senates
I did
Have you rot also stated that you ap-
preached Jacqueth and Bywater and tried
TO bribe them 20 vote for Mr Clarke
I did not. / simply conveyed 10 them
the message from Mr.. Welcome. and did
this that I might expose the fact OF their
accepting a bribe."
The attempted bribery OF State Senator
Clark. Of Montana. was referred TO. and in
answer TO questions by Senator Faulkner
the witness stated that Welcome gave
him ten $1,000 bills in an envelope on
which Clark placed his endorsement. after
which he gave it TO him (the witness).
How did you know there were SO coo
in the envelope asked Senator Faux
ner-
i saw the money put into the envelope
and heard an agreement that $4,000 was
% be the sum paid
Then your testimony was not from Ue--
sonal knowledge. but from hearsay?"
No. sir; not from hearsay. but from
what I was led TO believe"
Senator Chandler interrupted The cTCss-
examination TO ask what was the purpose
OF these questions. Senator Faulkner re-
piled that he intended 70 show that the
witness must have put the money into
the envelope himself in order to be able to
testify positively as to their denomination
and the total amount.
At u O'Clock the committee adjourned
until o'clock this afternoon.