New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1900-04-29
YACHTING.
WINDWARD SPEED OF OLD AND NEW
QUESTIONABLE" BARR ON
THE SUBJECT.

Captain Charlie Barr. who fooled the Column
bia to victory last October. in chatting yesterday
about the speed TO windward made by different
cup challengers and defenders. said:
real value of the performance. When You are
started to windward IT is seldom that the wind
shifts only three-quarteTs of a point look at the
anerence that II VIII MAKE IN your 'ie ses'x b 10
slant to make 1--WE minutes difference. and that
the challenger and defender.
% Il was s IN ae VsRs wfs1 hem We Ss sP
and . minutes. OF course. that looked like fine
windWard all the way because a small Slant came.
and that made the record unreliable for comparison
how are you going TO make trustworthy estimate
the real performance? When the shamrocS first
beat this distance in her trials on Sandy Hook you
compass courses that she did not lie close the
in hours Is OG minutes ana 50 Seconds and gaPsS
that this was about six and three-quarter miles an
shof the next day. and showed your report to
much i'm impressed by the news that the Shamrock
made this time, and he said that other boats had
OF course IL was only a coincidence but few
days later an unsigned letter was mailed at Provi-
dence, addressed to the yachting editor of The
Tribune. giving a number OF interesting figures
about three Herreshofr defenders and two chalen-
gers. The single sheet of note paper headed
Fifteen Miles Wlndward,'' and the letter
evidently written by some one who for years had
following figures 1t will be surprise to many TO
see what exceptionally good time was made by the
records of later boats In this. her final with
noser all the way, out with not; so far as close
watching could tell, slant anywhere, and the
was heavy; She then did the distance in 206;io.
which Is a long way better than the times made by
the Columbia and the Shamrock in the last beat
back where the elapsed times We're: Columbia.
here the last wears boats had big slant while II
was blowing hard in the last half and they were
The seas half heavy those which
This is not easy to understand and both figures
and memories tend to cast some doubt on the al
inquiry 1t found that some OF the subjoined rec
ords do not tell OF actual dead TO windward work.
but the figures interesting and supply fnsorma-
ton which many yachtsmen have been wanting
The contribution of the correspondent, whose fig
ures have not all been verified Is as follows:
FIFTEEN MILES To wINDwARD.
the visiSnt october IL. is.s, 2;os;$a
NaIkyre H. October u, 1898 2:o64O.
The vigiant July 90. 1895. 2:o5:aA
The vigan August 20, 1895 ten miles. i:2s:5s equal
The Defender. July % 1925, 2:O4;2o
The Defender August ~. 1893 ten miles. 1912
The Defender August H. 1922 eighteen miles, 2sO:lz
The Defender September 4 1850. miles 1870 equal
to 2OOO3.
The columbia. 10 1890, eighteen 2:27:12
The Columbia September 1895. miles LIS. 40,
boats have beaten to windward faster than the
Shamrock's 2l5:S0 for this distance"
THE CRAFT AND THOSE WHO SAIL. THEM
The large schooner yacht Endymion. which
arrived here last week from Southern waters is
now on her way 10 Boston. where she will have
work done her. The skipper OF a we'll
known New-York Yacht Club cruiser gave the in
formation that the new schooner her way
to the yards of her builders. He said TO his