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The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

Sores and Ulcers never become chronic
unless the blood IS in poor condition ia
sluggish, weak and unable to throw of
the poisons that accumulate in il. The
system must be relieved of the unhealthy
matter through the sore, and great danger
20 life would follow should il heal before
the blood has been made pure and healthv
and all impurities eliminated from the syS-
tenn. SIS. begins the cure by first cleans
ing and invigorating the blood, building
up the general health and removing from
the system ~ CONSTANT 0RAfM
effete M mater matter. UPON THE SYSTEM.
When this has been accomplished the dis.
charge gradually ceases, and the sore or
ulcer heals. Itis the tendency of these old
indolent sores to grow worse and worse
and eventually to destroy the bones. Local
applications, while soothing and to some
extent alleviate pain, cannot reach the seat
of the trouble. S. S. S. does, and no matter
how apparently hopeless your condition.
even though your constitution has broken
down, it will bring relief when notbino
elsc'can. 1t supplies the rich, pure blood
necessary to heal the sore and nourish
the debilitated, diseased body.
Mr.. J: B. Talbert, Lock Box 74S. Winona, Miss.
Gays: q" Six years ago my leg from the knee to
the foot was one solid sore Several physicis ne
treated me and made two trips to Hot Springs.
and il made q complete cure have beei, a r,@r''
fectly we'll man ever since"
~ - - IS the only purely veg
~~~ etable blood purifier
known - contains no
poisonous minerals to
~ ~ ruin the digestion and
add to, rather than relieve your suffer
ings. If your flesh does not heal readily
when scratched. bruised or cut, your blood
is in bad condition, and any ordinary sore
is apt to become chronic.
Send for our free book and write our
physicians about your case. We make no
charge for this service
The SWIFT SPECIFIC CO.. ATLANTA, GA.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

Special Correspondence.
Woodford, 1. T. Aug. 6-The
weather for the last week has been
fine for the farmer.
There is considerable sickness in
the country now.
The Baptist meeting closed last
Tuesday night with some success.
there being several additions to the
church.
William McCurry and Brad
Thomas have iput their evaporator
up and are ready to make molasses.
Cot Fulbright passed through from
Rock creek to the Comanche country
with his steam engine he stopped and
thrashed q few crops last week.
William Malone of NARROW is visit
ing his children here.
James Mitchell of Thackerville il
visiting his brother at this place.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

Leading colored men of Oklahoma
are trying to induce an immigration
of negroes at the opening OF the
Kiowa and Comanche and Wichita
COMMITTEES next spring.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

DeWitt's Little Early Risers are
famous little pills for liver and
bowel troubles. Never gripe. City
Drug Store, W. B. Frame.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

A civil services examination will be
held at Moberly, Mo on September
5, for the position of chief clerk and
carrier in the postoffice at that
place.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

There are people who VIII pus mp
with n great deal IL they can avoid
putting up for much.
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07
PROFESSIONAL CARDS.
LAWYERS.

Ledbetter Bledsoe Buiidins. Ardmore.
ina. Ter.s
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07
WORDS FROn WOODFORD

Sold by all druggists. Toledo, o
Halls Family Pills are the best
The Daily Ardmoreite. [volume] (Ardmore, Okla.) 1893-current, 1900-08-07

IS the only purely veg
etable blood purifier
known - contains no
poisonous minerals to
ruin the digestion and
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
CARNIOLAN BaBS.
A B BARRETT

The Oarniolan bee was introduce
into this country ABOUT the year 1884
The Cerniolan IL by our best authori-
Ties considered u variety of our co1
mon black bees, which it very much
resem 9!es, and which makes it unpopu
lar, owing TO its color When croe eeo
with the common bee the mixture can
not be detected, hero the imposs billy
OF keeping the stock from DE- general
ing
The Oarniolan bacs do not have vel
low bands, neither do they have white
bands. That il, the original pure Car
NOLAN bee. A few apiarisEs only hav,
a limi ed number OF them in their puri
W. Some aplarisrs have cross ed them
Fith the Isalian bees, and thus pro
iuced bees showing yellow bands siml
tsr to the Italians. There are no honey
Oees that have white bands The Cyp
rtan boss, or their crosses, show q
white down over their body that the
careless observer might call white
banda, bot il such b es are made wet
or daubed with honey this whitenesB
will disappear.
The Carniolan bees have been con
sidered bT some more gentle than n
0sher race, ard thus more easily
handled, but other who have thor
1uRhIy tested them say This is not the
"a5e, and do nos compare any more
suan fsvOrably with Eho Italians In thi.
respect. They do Q seem to have
cue fixed characteristic Of the Italian
Oees, FIR while some colonies are very
gentle, Others are very cratic, anc
), mswhal resemble the common bees
~ temper. They are excessive swarm
arF, wnIce is = very Objectionable traiJ
Ylsh tam, and evGalt goey were s1ue
rIor 60 The Italian nees, owing to TN Il
c l3r 81 nearly Resembling she c1mmoa
Oses Ina vs. uld not dlstIusutar s Icb
crosses as explained aoave, they c.uid
not come into general fevor On this &C
count, If no OsLer. Tn superiority al
the Italian beer IS readily established
rron tba fact GhaV no. enc api2ris@ Gu
Of q hundred keeps any other, ana
We mIehz go This better ana say tina
not one orIG Of five hundred OF all those
WIZ make b8e keeping a study and &
"A 81 D # Larnsd, Kan
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

should be selected II only q few are
gathered day by day, and the supply
is sold only once a week, do not at
tempt to send them far from home.
Better prices will be realized in the
local markets. NoG only that, the eggs
should be used more freely in the home
instead of go much meat. With beef
and other meat a. present prices iG is
cheaper 80 eas eggs in wlDter, and jus5
as g0cd nauEisaaaene will be obtained
from them, More eGgs should be con
summed Oh the farm than is gene ally
the case, and never should st ale eggs
b shipped away. In some cases the
cost CT railroad transportation will
more than eat up ell prCfils. WheD
hzgh pr. cag are q3osed in cities it meane
anly for eggs theE can stand the tests
aud which are never more than a few
days Old when exhibited for sale.
A. B. BARRETT
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
49, y ERV
DAIRY PROGRESS

Editorial Cor. of Progressive Farmer.
From time to time We have rad 0cc4
sion to q ?ota Chicaso D Try Produce
The last number received before this
writing contains the announcement
that E gin butter is TWENTY NINE GENTS
PER POUND!
Ezra creamery in Boston ives 80
CENTS. This for @ Wholesale price seems
ike a return to prosperity to dairy
men. It is cold comfort, however, to
him who has sold his COWS or who is
trying to MAKE sorub7 pay.
With each iss1e Of above paper We
dnd notes like these. A creamery will
surely be built il s., Nicholas, Mimi,
in the early spriGS.
"Tha now raa merry ~ Parknr. g D
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
Poultry and Bass
3 ALE EGGS AND BONE CON-
SUMPTION

correspondence Of The Progressive Farmer.
TIE average number If gCale eggs
that are shipped to large markets is &
great that often they are a terrible glu'
when fancy fresh eggs are COO scaTc
20 meet the daily demands, ana a
oYicas high enough to suit almO5t aIy
one. OF course il ia sometimes d5ficul
for a grower OF chickens living a long
distance from market TO gee his eggs
to market IL fresh condition. Then i,
is 1y opinion he be has no business t.
send hem. M recover, if the collection
Of egge on the farm lie go small that ID
musS wait a week brtoTe sufficient
quantiti 8 are gathered to MAKE a ship
men. hat person has no right to send
the egas further eff than the nearby,
local m8rk-ts. He makes the mistake
Of his life if he thinks he can deceiv4
the receivers in the cities by passing
his week old eggs eff as fresh. Hi
egg8 are all rigidly tested before they
go on the market. and they are marked
down accordingly. Some make the
practice Of putting in only a few stale
eggs in a lot Of otherwise quite fresh
eggs, a species Of cheating on a par
with watering milk or sanding sugar,
but the trick is more often a great il
jury to the shipper. Not al of the
eRge are tested, but they are tested by
lots. and it might be the luck of the
shipper to have the inspectors take as
samp es the few stale eggs he put in
These few might then condemn the
whole lot. Instead Of making any
thing, the shipper would actually loae
on his lot fer more than ne could pos
sibly make by attempting to dilute his
supply.
Shippers CT eggs must learn this les
son if tuey are to set the most for their
prCdUc5. Il they are raised on a lar 6
scale let she shipments Of ne w-.aid eges
be sent to market every day, and have
the GRATIS so marked. The inspectors
will soon discover whether the mark
means anything. Even when the chip
ments gre from distant points the eggs
would then only be a few days old
when sold, and these would be claesed
as fresh eggs. If the sup ely only war
rants shipments every two or three
days the markets q little nearer home
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

is complete and ready to begin making
butter.
IAN effort is being made to establish
a creamery at Ardoch. D. D.
From New Uim. Num-, it is an
nounced that there is a movement on
foot to organize a creamery company
at the new town of Seerles TO include
many Of the stockholders in the skim
ming station located just north o. the
village. and also some of The stockhoid
ers in the Linden creamery.
"rhe BAyard Creamery Company
yes recently organized at BayaTd
Neb. Work On a building is in progress =
T. e E.
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

Never before n the history OF the
worl4 has there been such q f3od Of
literature Of sli kinds. To be SUR,
with bhe great amount OF literature
&here ia much thai ts trashy and worth
les; but with all this the world lie
blessed with much good literature, and
there is now little excuse for any one
being ignorant, Every parson hes ep
opportunity OF learning something OF
what is going on in the world. B)oka
and papers are so cheap that there
ought { 0 be a bookshelf in every home,
however humble, where the family
may be supplied with reading matter
suitable for the entire household Ard
along With this e believe that it may
be observed that the spirit Of education
hos never before been 90 lively IL
North Carolina -C0mmon ~ealth
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

not always cooked to your taste. They
are suitable for the table served in
MANY different ways. No doubt they
are quice healthy diet, If not taken in
too g;est quantities at the first gather
ing
The land should be rich but no fresh
manure put on the land at the time Of
planting. Land should be well p'oWed
and then bed wish turning plow about
five or SIX feet wide; hen With turn
ing p'ow run two burrows as near each
othzr a. ycu we'll cen on top OF these
be1s; Efea s.rGw the peas in th5se fur
rows 40 ycu have dou5le rows on each
Oed s tue peas fairly thick. When
peas are Well up, or about six inches
high, give them q light working. Do
not cover 10 deep in planting. Never
stick them; let them roll or fail ss they
msy have not put in sticks for the
last fifteen years or nor Do not be
IN too great a hurry to gather first
crop. Save ell drisd peas for winter
or for planting 8nd Ih9 vines for stock
Toe great secret IS 20 uril re all crops
TOR ~Inter use. Put the land to larer
crops Sd "a 20 keep down weeds and
grass.
M > some suggestions on the grow
iux Of tcmasoes for parsons who have
small town lots Take off all the sol,
down so cay or at least twelve incoes
deep and then spade cut IS dep as
70 feet about twelve or fifteen inch 6
in circumference. Set in a post Or rail-
a9cu5 ten feet high, fiji up within
twelve Inches of the suffice with coos
or rough straw. Then uraR up a good
broad hill with the soil and Get the
plant or saed near the post and "a 1t
grows tie with a good string TO the post
and take eff all suckers. Continue
tying up often and take off suckers
every two or three days as they clme
above the Leaf. You may set your
posts vi hin two feet Of each ot1er go
a smal sqIsre will grow ali the soma
roe3 n family can use through the
sungler until frost.
Ta8 tomato may be the one OF your
casc5. The Trophy or Bel is my
ch1ioe but make your own selection
TIE above manner of planting aDo
culture for small lots is my preference.
Iu field planting / throw up beds a
high as they well can be with plow and
snoYeI then plant on top OF nigh bed
leo Ghcm fall as they may. Aud what
3 worry in gathering from uaud en-
dIrtl Rough hay Of straw ! ti"e to
a5ver the land about the vIns5. HAv,
cried many plans but have n trouolt
an growing all I want to handle Tor
nome or market. As soon ae Eh9 bios
s3m end Of tomato shows SIG s OF
riDe1iug gather aad pu5 IL a dry placr
from the sun AID turn the blossom
sud uD At the same time Of Gat 1er
lex take IF ell u-ssund and such o.
wall nos come to perfection end throw
them from the viuea r r. MOORE.
Clifford crunry, n Q
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

NATIONAL EXECUTIVE OC

J. P. 8ossamon, Charlotte, N. 0,
J. Q. Ranley, ST. Paul, Mum.
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
HORTICULTURE
PEAS N TOMATOES.

correspondence Of the Progressive Farmer.
As the time for planting is near at
hand, il may be we'll to give some sug
gestlons regarding off rent crops
The garden peas cume with the ear
Hest. MOsE people have their set times
handed down from parents and 60
most children are apt to remember
when mother planted. About the
fourteenth OF February is a good time
for small planting, and plant again
about the first OF March 1t is well 20
plant plenrifdlly as they coma ea.Iy
for the table.
Ny fret choice is the Philadelphia
Extra Early. Next is Dwarf or Black
eye Marrow Fats; these are peas Of
fine favor ard prolific bearers. There
IS a wide difference IN flavor Of peas
and this enc Of the reasons Why SO
many are not fond of garden peas
And there is another reason: they are
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23

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". A Gardner, Chairman, Andreg
Settlement, Pa; John Br mig. Jur
Cion, ". Va. D P. Duncan. Colul
bia, 8. G.; Q. w. Gravit, Mendar
N Y.
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
THB NATIONAL FAM bag AKA
ANCR AND INDUSTRIAL
UNION.

Preeidsns-J. Q. WilborD, Cd Point
s. .
Vice resident-P. Il. Rahilley, Lax
City, Minn.
ecretary-Treagurer-A, B. Welch
Victor, n. Y.
LECTURERS.
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J. q. Hanley, ST. Paul, Mum.
NATIONAL EXECUTIVE CoMMITTEE.
w. A Gardner, Chairman, Andrewl
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GiOn, ". Va. ; D P. Duncan. CoIum
hia, s. G.; Q. w. Gravlt, Mendan8
N Y.
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ANOE
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peleh. N, O.
Vace President-J s. Mitchell, Win
ton, N. @.
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n Hes e Agent-T' B. Parker Rh'sboFP
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N. Q.
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boro, N. O.
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Men can be cured privately and pos
itively at home of ell weakness and
disease. Write for new free book.
Dr. J. N. Hathaway, 228 South Broad
st., Atlanta, Ga.
The progressive farmer. [volume] (Winston, N.C.) 1886-1904, 1900-01-23
DAIR9ING SOUTH

A man, a former resident Of the
Northwest, and we'll versed in ths
dairy industry, having made an exam
nation of the capabilities of the South
ern States, writes ae follows:
II deem it necessary to make da.r
ing q cce there must be three
things: Grass with forage and kipdre
tooo dairy co US, creamery and cheese
factories; and a paying market.
81 have been careful in my examina
tion Of grasses and foods. l fnd from
Concord and Charlotte in North Caro-
tina to Atlanta and Rome, Georgia,
and clear to Chattanooga, as we'll as
down through Alabama TO Demopolls,
hat there is an unlimited supply of cot
con seed and hulls cheaper than else
vharein the U. 8. Then there is
corn fodder and kindred plants Of corn
like cane, sorghum, millet, koHr corD,
seoslnte and oats, clover hay, elfalfa
hay, johnson grass ard Bermuda
grass. The latter is grown every where
ana very cheaply. Roots grow very
we'll. Taking 100 as the baso for total
feed, l have placed the feed ga follows:
Bermuda grass and other
grasses. ..,25 PER cent
ROO $500.
clover, alfalra and Johnson
grass. ~
Corn plants, -. ..........2
Cotton seed meal and bulls 80
100 pr cent.
"Many of the grasses MAKE good en-
silage aud the eiIo can be introduced
with profit.
Il was ~sgreeably surprised to find
CO g Of much better quality than I ex
pcc4ed. Ifnd good common COWS at
from $25, $35 and $50, where in the
North.they are fully 81 per cent. higher
than these prices. The people with
whom I have talked seem much inter
ested in the business. also found in
every community / visited the business
men, bankers, lawyers and merchants
Wiling to take hold and subscribe
freely o sock 90 build up creamerIes
and similar institutions.
Fortunately the market question
mas 0aan solved, as the market here il
the 5oush, the home market, Is already
sue bass in tbs Uaised States H1n
ireds CT teas Of butter, and 4ches8 are
inop9Y5za fem TIE NOrthweB5. Tn
# Aaiauta pays in the Deghbor
If Z quarter Of a N lilon doltarF
annually for these produces. Then
there are at our doors CUBA and the
Wess India POSSESSIONS which will
eventually take mj!liong Of pounds Of
the&e g0ods, now d2a IN from other
COUNTRIES. I have not tou3aed upon
the ulalk supply in u cisEee. Il is in
a healthy cuadNi2n and the supply il
fair.
1T seems to ne shat this is a line Of
business that the il telIigent Southern
can take up with no fear CT
ever having aoy successful competi
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National Sporting Clubs Dates FILLED Until
Jan. I.

Judging from letter received In this city
Yesterday from Matchmaker 4. II. Bettinson
of the National Sporting Club London. by
Or Ordway. the ORGANIZATIONS representative
in this country. the path Of the army Of Amer-
can boxers who threaten TO sail for England
will not be -trewn with roses Bettlnson has
informed Ordwuy that the club has all It's dates
filed until the lst Of January, and advises
persons in search for fist G. engagements abroad
to steer clear of the English huNing institution.
The frat international go Of Importance
will be on ODt l5 The contestants will be
Charley MCKerver OF Philadelphia and Dido
Plumb the English middeweight champion.
The winner of this battle will meet George
Gardiner of Lowell, who recently trimmed
Frank Craig the Harlem Coffee Cooler SO
handily Another fight in which an Amert-
can scrapper i concerned will be probably be-
tween Jack Everhardt Of New Orleans and
Dick Burge. "
4 So" no chance Of either Patsy sweeney.
George MCFaddcn or Joe Cans fighting at the
National Sporting club" said Ordway to re-
porter of THf .SrN. In England these men
are not so well known as some Of the other
stars | saw SAN Harris tho other day and
offered 10 McioVerU a purse Of 800 and $500
expenses to Coto England and meet Ben Jordan.
He -aid that Terry would not fight for less than
n e. ON Iur~c The club will not give him this
sum and IL he j. wise h" vii. accept for the club
may chang" its mind and offer him less before
no is much older