The Independent. [volume] (Honolulu, H.I.) 1895-1905, 1900-01-04
THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
Excellent Work Done at Their M. e.
ing of Yesterday Afternoon.

ExCellenS WOTk oOue aU Inelr ult g.
ing of Yesterday Afternoon.
The Committee of Citizens met yes
terday afternoon at half past two
O'Clock in the Office of the Minister of
the Interior. President Dole was pres
ent. Of the committee there were pres
ent: Minister Alexander Young, Hon.
l.. A. Thurston, DR.. Geo. Herbert. c. B.
Ripley, c. Bolte and James A. Ken
nedy.
Minister Young stated the object of
the meeting was to talk over and con-
slider points of change in the plans of
buildings and that after these had been
discussed it would be in order to con-
slider tlhe adoption of the plans as a
whole. The first question to be decid-
ed upon was whether the committee
should adopt the flume or sewer pipes
in the construction of the waterclosets
at the Detention Station. Minister
Young said that DR.. Herbert did not
think the fiume safe, as he understood
1t was to be constructed. There was a
sufficient amount Of sewer pipe here
which could be used, and this could be
flushed from time Ito time, say half a
dozen times a day. The sewer pipe
would be sealed and would meet Dr.
Herbert's objection to the flume.
Minister Young at this point intro
duced large number of plans and
specifications of the system, suggested
by nIm, as it is at present used in the
schools of the United States. The sani-
tation of the system he deemed perfect
and it was one that had stood the tests
of a nation which was critical in such
matters. II believed we might adopt
the regular trap water closet here,
which could be made in town. There
would be needed 1S0 seats in the pro-
posed buildings at the Detention Sta
ton under THE flume system; ninety
would do, if the traps were used If
there were not sufficient traps in town
| one-half could be put in and the re-
mainder sent for at once; these would
probably arrive before the demand
reached them. There were certainly a
| sufficient number of. traps in town to
start with.
MIR. Thurston thought time was an
element, under the present circum-
stances, ard Unat an attempt to intro
duce the regular trap SYSTEM would
| % 10 W
might prove dangerous in the extreme.
DR.. Herbert thought there might be
a combination of the two methods of
fiume and trap which would prove
rapid and effective.
Mr.. Thurston held the flume to be
most practical under the necessities of
the occasion because 1T could be put in
at once and results could he reached.
Architect Ripley here went into an
explanation of the construction of the
closets and traps as shown under the
flume system, and the question of
CLOSING up or sealing" fumes and
closets was discussed.
| Minister Young presenled an outline
drawing of a cheap watercloset of
either sheet lead or galvanized iron,
with flushing pipes, which could be
readily constructed here.
President Dole suggested that, as he
understood the matter, this was sup
posed to be a temporary affair and he
did not see, If so, why the necessary
expense of permanent closets should be
added He thought that if there was
plenty of water, which he understood
there was, he certainly agreed with Mr..
Thurston that the fmme should be
used. This of course would demand
continuous supply of salt water for
| flushing
Mr.. Thurston said he thought that
something permanent should be made.
] He instanced the cholera time and stat