Virginian-pilot. (Norfolk, Va.) 1898-1911, 1900-12-11
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Washington. ID. c., Dec. 10.--The Sem
ate spent almost five hours today in
executive session considering the Hay
Pauncefote treaty. There were five or
six speeches made Senator Morgan
elaborated somewhat his position as to
the effect of the Clayton Bulwer treaty.
He took issue With Senator Teller as to
the purport of the first clause of that
treaty. claiming that it applied only to
Great Brtain's right to fortify the
Nicaragua canal itself
Senator Teller replied at some length
asserting that the provision was of
more general import, as, he said, any
one could ascertain for himself by
reading President Buchanan's views
upon the subject when he was minister
TO England. The declaration then made
showed plainly, he said. that England
hau attempted To extend her right be-
Sond the immediate vicinity of the
canal. Mr.. Teller repeated his declara-
ton that the United States should CON
struct the canal IL ut ali regardless OF
me English position and without going
through the formality of ratifying the
pending treaty.
OTHER SPEECHES.
During the day speeches were made
by Senators Money, Stewart, Frye and
others. Senator Stewart announced
That he was for the treaty without
amendment. and Senator Money that
he was against the treaty in any form.
He wanted the canal built rs much as
any Senator could. he said, but he
considered the pending treaty nothing
less than an insult to the intelligenca
or the American people. He had no
doubt that if proper diplomatic efforts
should be made il would be possible
ais,
inc Clayton Buiwer treaty. and that
was what he wanted. He did not. in
DEED, believe the people OF this country
would be satisfied so long as any vest
lge OF that instrument remained among
existing international OBLIGATIONS The
convention. he said, is contrary to the
wishes OF the people of the United
states and they could he satisfied only
by definitely erasing it once and for
ever.
NEW CONVENTION PROPOSED.
There also should be new conventions
between the United States and Nicara-
qua ana Costa Rica. giving absolute
control of the waterway to this coun
try He wanted no partnership with
any country in ownership or mana e
ment of the canal when built.
The possibility of Secretary Hays re-
signing in case the foreign relations
committee amendment to the treaty
'''''p.p l'iSNttiI litNlllS Dten alluded TO
Senator Eye said he was In position to
make the official denial of that report.
The Secretary had no such intention.
HAY -PAuNCEFOTE TREATY.
MI Frye announced himself as fa.
Norabe to the Hay-Pauncefote treaty.
He said that, deny the effect OF the
Clayton Bulwer treaty as much as we
may. he still is on the interna tional
records of this country and is given
more or less recognition by every adj
that has to deal with the
question of the destruction of an 18th
milan canal. 1t has been constant
source Of veXation in connection with
the canal subject. and he apprehend-
ed that 1t would continue to be such
until that portion relating to the canal
should be disposed. He was satisfied,
for instance, that the canal would
have been constructed during the adj
ministration of President Arthur if the
old negotiation had not been in exist
ence.
A REQUEST DECLINED.
Senator Chandler asked Senator
Frye 10 make Secretary Hays posi-
ton with reference to resigning pub
lie. but the Maine Senator declined,
saying that he was only authorized
TO make the statement to the Senate.
Mr.. Chandler rctorted that To do that
was equivalent 10 giving it to the pub
lie and the Senate then lapsed into a
discussion of the ways in which their
executive secrets got into the news
papers.