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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1900-06-10
CARROLL on THE STAND.

John F. CARROLL called Mr.. Peckham. Car
roll. stout and perspiring, and with a frown
upon his face made his way to the witness
stand. His deIneanor was far less concillatory
than Mayor Van Wyck's He answered the
questions put him In a loud, snarling tone. and
frequently he seemed the verge Of declining
to reply on the plea OF personal natter'-the
repeating. in fact. of the subterfuge he success
fully used for his protection when he hailed
before the Mazet Committee. Asked IL he had
ever held official relations with the city, he said
he had been clerk of the Criminal Branch OF
the Supreme Court clerk OF the Court OF General
Sessions and. some years ago. clerk of the Park
Department
.Q.-Are you acquainted with the American Ice
Company? A.-Yes.
Q;-Also with the Consolidated and Knicker-
booker companies? Ayes.
.Q-When did you obtain that interest? Ain
the knickerhocker at its organization In 1895 and
in the Consolidated In sc 81.
Q.--What the amount of your interest in
the Consolidated? Al subscribed for $4,000 worth
of stock
Q.-When? Ain 1897, l think.
Q.-Was the stock issued to you? Ayes
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a TRACE OF BAD TEMPER.

But want you TO-" Mr. Peckham said.
Il can tell you all about them without looking
at Them the Mayor replied.
L want you 10 look at these bills Mr. Peck
ham persisted.
I don't want to, and 1 don't need to- the
Mayer snapped. exhibiting anger for the first
time Eventually the Court ruled that the wit
ness need not look at the bills If he did not wish
TO do so. and the Mayor went to explain that
in Vetoing the measures which had been passed
Tor the Improvement OF the docks he had been
moved entirely by the knowledge that the city
could not stand the expenditure. because il was
within so,bp.G0D of its constitutional debt limit
Inc examination then proceeded thus.
Q.-It would have been to the interest of New
1orR 10 nave increased the dock facilities Of the
cry A-1es. Sir, IL they had the money
Q.-hhy DID you veto the bills? Al thought Il
Wss olwlse 70 allow the Dock Board 10 pile up
Sept OF SlC,VJee@. ] was against such a policy.
titIe TO the property be acquired was I'm quest
Q-NoW, Mr.. Mayor. did vou give any reason At
the time you vetoed the bills? 4-Well. had 238
hflis az the time, and of that number / vetoed 1856
.Q-Rd you know anything about these bills be
FORE they were passed. A.-No sir
Q-Do You mean that you knew nothing ahout
Nslsaton for the city before the bills came before
you? A-The Corporation CounseFs Office is
warned to look after sach matters "
Al rever interfere with Legislation in any way
Q-NoE Mr.. Mayor DID you not know at the
time the Dock Improvement bills We're passed bv
the Legislature your ice holdings were in danger?
1,eertainiy not sir; quickly responded the Mayor,
shaking his head vigorously.
Q-Didn,t you realize that the passage Of those
hfls would seriously affect the value OF yoIr ice
Stock A-Nhy, certainly not, Mr.. Peckham
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CUT IN PRICE ADMITTED.
PRESIDENT MORSE ON WITNESS STAND
SAYS COMPETITION FORCED IT.

President Morse OF the Ice Trust admitted the
witness stand before Justice Gaynor yesterday
that his company had cut the retail price OF Ice TO
10 cents hundred pounds. He had denied that
fact many times to reporters He attributed 1t to
the competition of rivals but this is doubted. The
real reason is thought be simple scare" coupled
with desire to manufacture evidence for the
courts tending TO support the pretsnce that the Ice
Trust has rot secured monopoly OF the Now
York market, Superintendent Winch still
denying yesterday that there had been any cut at
all. but he is probably under orders do so, and
the following incident, published yesterday. tends
to show that all the eompanys employees told
what to say the point:
A householder the upper West Side said: nv
wife noticed the other day that the humps ice
left by the ceman-the trust icemnn-wera getting
smaller every day. Day before yesterday. when
her ice sent up. she weighed it and found il
short one-third. She called down the DUMB
waiter shaft and asked for another lump; then
asked the question, which the iceman had probably
heard a hundred times In the last week. When
are you going to reduce the price Of ice? Well,
since you ask said the iceman. TN tell you You
can can have it for 40 cents a hundred pounds from
now on. X you want IT.. What do you mean by
since you ask? 1 told TO give the new
price unless customers asked for it, replied the
iceman."
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lIR. SCOTT RECALLED

Mr.. Scott recalled and asked to SUNNY
the Court with a transcript of Mayor Van
Wyck's account in the stock ledger Mr. Peck
ham said he proposed to show that the Mayor
held not five thousand shares but eighteen
thousand. Il understand" he said that the
books show eighteen thousand shares in the
name Of the Mayor. He disposed of three thou
sand, and there Is therefore balance Of fifteen
thousand. | want 10 know the number Of
shares that were put to his credit at any time
Such record Will be found in the stock ledger -
The Judge ordered the transcript TO be made
but pointed out that probably while the number
of shares Mr.. Peckham had named would he
found in the ledger II would be the result of
stock splitting and transfers.
J. Ross Curran, president Of the City Trust
Company, sworn, and testified that his COM
pany was the registrar of the American lee
Company. He said his books would show the
Mayors transactions in the ice stock and prom
ised to have transcript prepared of those deal
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MORSE CONIRADICTS HIM

The hext witness called was Mr. Morse the
prime mover. as he is looked upon, in the
scheme TO tack something like 100 per cent on
the price of ice in this city. 1t was evident
that Mr.. Morse disliked the ordeal he was asked
to undergo. and his department was one OF ex-
treme nervousness. He was examined by Mr.
Keyes- He said he became president of the
American Ice Company when il was organized
IN March. 1889. Prior TO that he was connected
with the Consolidated Ice Company. which was
formed in 1898 Among other companies alb
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COLER is AFTER KEARNY.

Controller Coler said yesterday that he wanted
some satisfactory explanation why the city was
paying 40 cents a hundred for ice to the American
Ice Company when 1t be had for 80 cents.
Then he called his stenographer and dictated the
following Letter to Commissioner Kearny: II inclose
herewith claims of the American Ice. Company
amounting to s7O9 95 for ice furnished to various
nublic buildings in the Borough OF Manhattan dur
ing the months of March and April, 1900. bill
rendered by your department amounting to $685. 80
in favor OF the above claimant was recently paid
AS The item Of Ice is that will constantly occur
will YOU kindly whether there any specific
reasons why Section No. 4l9 of the charter should
not be complied With"
The section of the charter referred to is that
which provides for the purchase OF all articles by
city after public letting when the contract price
exceeds 81.
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.nR. SCOTT PRODUCES BOOKS

Mr.. Shoemaker, however, left the stand
without being further examined. and his place
was taken by Robert A. Scott, secretary OF the
trust.
Q.-You are secretary OF the American Ice Com
pany? Ayes.
Q.--Have you the stock books here? Al have
the books IN nv custody.
Q.-Have you brought the books mentioned In the
subpoena Al think
Q.-ProduCe them.
Il object" shouted Mr.. NlCOil.
Q.-Eave you the transfer books OF the stock
ledger? A.-No
Justice Gaynor-Then you go and get the transfer
books
Very well. sir" replied Mr.. Scott. and he went
out for the books.
Later he resumed the stand and read par
tial list Of stockholders and the date upon which
the stock acquired.
Examined by Mr.. Hayes. he was asked II this
represented all the transactions Of the Mayor
and other officials with the company. He said Il
did not. that the stock certificate book would
show more. but 1t not in his custody
Q.-Are you the trustee Of any stock in the
pany2 Ayes sir.
Q.-Fave you any books showing all tho Mayors
Transactions A.-.They are In New-Jersay at tho
company's office there.
Q.--Can you produce those books? A.-Not with
permission OF the Board OF Directors
We will show them exclaimed Nr. NlNOl.
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ANOTHER HEARING. PERHAPS.

Mr.. Hayes asked for an adjournment until next
Saturday, in order to call further witnesses but
Judge Gaynor said II appeared to him that the
ground had been well covered and that a further
hearing was needless. The scope of the inquiry
he said was to discover what stock city officials
held in the company and what influence they
had exerted in furthering the advance In the
price of ice. Those matters. he said. had been
adequately covered. After little further dis
cussion between the Judge and the counsel it
was decided to close the investigation Justice
Gaynor said he would be willing sit next Sat
urday if counsel had any further pertinent evil
dence to produce which they had overlooked. It
was agreed that counsel should communicate
with the Judge not later than Thursday night
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THE MAYORS SORRY SHOW
Continued from first page.


pendent Company had forced the American Ice
Company TO reduce the price
tan of the price personally? A.-Nothing what
Q.-You know there has been violent agitation
against the Ice Trust and its monopoly? Al
obo so9 h hnS the NM Mayor Of the city had
Jurisdiction over such a monopoly? A--No, don I
o~And would the feet that the Mayor Of the city
nee his 6fa q in aGT R n ?uca s
nothing 10 do with the management Of the Amer
ican Ice Company In any way.
KNEW NOTHING OF THE SQUEEZE.
Mr.. Patterson at this point objected TO the line
OF examination which Mr.. Peckham was follow
ing. Il think it has gone far enough" he urged
His objection was oyerruled Mr. Peckham con-
tinung:
Qpid you know the price Of ice had al, been e
A.-No. sir.
o-When you exchanged your Knckerbocker Ice
had been granted the stockholders Of me Consol-
Yes go you know the Dock Commissioners A
9-A AERgPeosas BY ESSF va A-res
Q.-You never knew the Consolidated was TO be
Q.-You expected the profits OF the American
ice Company were 70 he made outside OF
was to be in the South, Philadelphia. Washington
You were never told by Carroll. Morse or any
one that the KniclerbocSer Ice Company was 10
be consolidated with the American Ice Company
A-No. sir.
o.-You got the stock, though? Ayes. was
anxious get it.
Q.-why? Al thought il a good invest
Q-How many other transactions have you made
based your judgment? Al bought $4,000
worth of Amalgamated Copper.
Q-Any others2 Ayes. a number of others.
Q.-You have seen that large amount of ice
stock is credited tc others. you interested in
any of them? A--No, sir.
GA large amount Of stock is credited to Mr.
Scott Is any OF that for you? A.-No. sir
Q-Do you know VINO stockholders OF the
Knckerbocker Ice Company in Maine? A.-No
Q.-Are yoa aware that every - ssle officer and
also members Of Tammany Hall and others are
very large holders in the Knickerbocker Ice Com
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PAID FOR 1T BY CHECK.

Odd you pay for It? Ayes: by check
Q.-Was that money returned to you in any
way? A.-Not vet
Q.-How much stock did you hold in the Knick-
erbocker? A.-Thirty-ive thousand dollars. / was
underwater.
DO you mean that you underworld that
amount Of stock? A.-No; I took that amount of
the issue.
Q.-Then you were not underwater? A.-No
GLOW your shares delivered? Al had
30 preferred and $3.50 common.
Q.-At the time you bought that stock there
any arrangement between you and any one else
that either you your friends should purchase a
certain amount Of stock? A.--No, sir
Q-Do you know of any syndicate or any parties
VINO had agreed 10 take stock in that company?
A.-No.
$50 that your purchase srnply n trans
action of your own with nobody else acting with
you? Ayes.
Odd you borrow any money TO pay for the
stock? A.-Which TRANSACTION do you refer to?
Q-The $4,000 transaction? Al think | Dor
rowed $780, go.
Q.-Are you sure OF that? Ayes. 1t was about
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BARGAINS IN THE STORES.
SOME ATTRACTIVE ANNOUNCEMENTS BY
TRIBUNE ADVERTISERS

LIE BOUTILLIER BROTHERS. West Twenty
third-st. announce special sales OF ladies' fine
nainsook lingerie and muslin underwear They
say that they have Just received a large purchase
OF high grade underwear. comprising chenllses'
night dresses drawers and corset covers. IN hne
nainsooks and lawns, which daintily trimmed
with choice faces and embroiderlesS ana thaL oW-
ing 10 advantageous contracts for these fine goods
they are enabled TO sell them at unusually low
prices. They have also speciaI offerings OF 1nolt
silks, womens suits. laces. hosiery ana SHIRT WAISTS
and in other lines.
ARNOLD CONSTABLE & CO. Nineteenth-st.
and Broadway would like to receive a visit this
week from persons who are looking for BARGAINS "a,
arnensivs stock OF summer goods at exceedingly
tempting figures. In their stock will be found all
the new creations in summer goods IN all hnes'
s KOCH & SONS, West Twenty-third-st.. are
continuing their clearing sale of high class
trimmed hats In all the latest summer styles. and
are Offering specially attractive prices in outing
hats of exclusive designs IN felt DUCK ana pl9uS:
white gray. black and natural
BEST & co. Liliputian Bazaar. Nos. 90 and 62
est Twenty -third-st.. are having special sale OK
girls sailor suits and childrens bathing suits
of the bargains in girls sailor suits are fanSy
pique assorted colOrs. plain and striped all men
chambray and navy blue serge. All , SUES. sizes
store and these goods are offered at low prices
b. ALTMAN & CO.. Sixth-ave.. between Eight
zenith and Nineteenth SITS. announce that they will
charge this month less than their regular prices
for making to order from number OF specially
prepared models gowns of foulard canvas. yelling.
crepe de chine. etc. tailor made suits. top coats
and golf suits. The women's dreSsmakfng and tall
oring department Is the third floor. They fur
Their announce that they will make TO order brass
enameled bedsteads and cribs, hair mattresses
springs, box couches and dvans. feather and down
covers OF irish linen French ana English cretonnes
cotton damasAs: etc. The hrm viii clean and repair
lace curtains. The curtains will be stored by the
house during the summer months free OF charge
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HOW BANKERS LOOK AT 1T.
EXPRESS SURPRISE AT THE WAY VAN
WYCK's PURCHASES WERE FACILITATED
BY GARFIELD NATIONAL.

Bankers uptown last night expressed interest and
surprise al the manner In which Mayor Van
Wyck's purchases OF ice stock had been facilitated
by the Garfield National Bank. shown in the
testimony of the Mayor and of William H Gel
shenen the president OF the bank The 500 shares
of knickerbocker Ice stock originally purchased
by the Mayor were sold to him by the bank &C
cordins TO his testimony. and he paid for Is per
cent Of the cost OF these shares with money which
he borrowed from the oank. II was the
opinion of disinterested bankers that there was
something unusual in the fact that the bank had
this stock, Its property as we'll as in the
further fact that it was willing by lending the
Mayor. presumably upon the deposit of the
stock collateral, the money necessary TO enable
him to effect the purchase.
The purchase by the Mayor Of his 5000 shares OF
American Ice stock from the president OF the COM
pany, Charles w Morse. also excited much COM
ment among the bankers in view OF the Mayors
testimony the for $500 900 given by him
In part payment for the stock, and Mr.. Gelshenens
testimony apparently going show that $4,000 of
the amount had been lent by the bank 10 Mr.. Morse
closely identified with Tammany Hall. according
to all indications and the Garfield National Bank.
nouuced affiliations with Tammany and has the
reputation of having financed more than enter
deeply interested pccuniarily So that after all, the
developments OF the day at the hearing before
shock to the bank officers OF the city as they
would have felt If It had been brought out that
the Mayors transactions had been with some bank
The The Garfield National Bank has It's offices at
William II. Gelshenen. has long been close TO Tam
many Hall. It's vice-presdent is Charles W Morse
directors. beside Messrs. Gelshenen and Morse are
Robert Dunlap James McCutcheon. Charles T.
wills. Harry F. Morse and James a, H RresIin, The
at present quoted at LOO bid
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NOT A WORD WITH VAN WICK.

DIDO you have any conversation with
Mayor Van Wyck about that stock? A--Never a
word
Q.-There a large number of politicians who
invested in that stock about that time, there
not? A.-Dont know anything about it.
Q.-Do know whether Croker had any inter-
est in the company? Al know nothing about it,
Odd you ever have any conversation with
him about your holdings? A.-No did think
It was anybody's business.
Odd you talk to the Dock Commissioners
o.-You would not regard 1T insulting speak
to the Mayor about the company, would you? A
Nc
Q.-You were on terms of close friendship with
him? Ayes. and have been for thirty years.
Q.-When the American Ice Company
formed you participant In organizing 1t?
A.-No. sir.
Odd you ever recommend the stock of the
Odd you suggest to any one that 1t would
be a good investment? A.-No, sir
Odd you advise the Mayor TO buy II? A.
No. sir.
This contradiction of the testimony given by
the Mayor earlier In the day caused hutter or
surprise to pass the court. Mr.. Carroll
was obviously i'll at ease. and mopped his brow
energetically. Mr.. Peckham was not slow 10
take advantage of the discrepancy between the
evidence of Mr.. Carroll and the Mayor
CARROLL GROWS UNEASY.
Were you in court this morning." he asked
II was Carroll replied.
Did you hear the Mayor say that you told
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1900-06-10
INDICATIONS OF CONSPIRACY.

Mr Patterson objected to this question on the
ground that II had nothing to do with the case
and was Irrelevant. Mr.. Peckham assured the
Court that the question of vital importance.
buI the objection sustained. Then Mr..
Peckham asked the Mayor if he knew that on
November l. 1898. John F. Carroll held two
thousand shares in the KnickerbocEeF Ice Com
pany Again Mr.. Patterson objected. The Court
asked Mr. Peckham to explain the relevancy of
the question. and he replied that be expected 20
show that a onspiracy existed by which the
price Of a commodity was to be raised mid
alteration followed between counsel, but finally
Judge Gaynor admitted the question. The Mayor
said he knew Mr.. Carroll owned some Knicker
becker lee Company stock but he did not know
when he bought it or how many shares il COM
prised. He said also that he unaware
whether Richard Croker. Dock Commissioner
Cram Judge Fitzgerald held shares in this
company. Nh Peckham submitted the names Of
stock but the Mayor said he had known
that they were interested in the company until
the publication Of the stock lists Counsel also
sought TO obtain information 20 the leases Of
various dock properties. but the Mayor pleaded
that these were details Of which he was igno-
rant. He admitted that he had not read the
report Of the Dock Poard for the year 1899 He
could not read all the reports him. ne
said. After asserting to the suggestion that he
had had submitted him bills passed by the
Legislature for the improvement of docks, par
tfcularly the West Side. the Mayor was
asked to describe the bills. To assist his mem
DRY Mr.. Peckham offered copies Of these bills to
the Mayor. The latter. however. refused to take
the COPIES renarking that he knew all about
them without examining them.
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THE DOCK COMMISSIONERS.

]. Sergeant Cram, president Of the Dock
Board, next sworn. He testified that he
owned 4 hundred shares of American Ice Com
pany stock from July to October ii of last year.
He had acquired it by exchange of Knicker-
booker stock. He sold this stock IN October.
lSsfa. He had originally acquired the hundred
shares of knickerbocker stock when the COM
pany was first organized. He had subscribed for
that hundred shares and three hundred shares
OF common stock in 1898, but had sold the three
hundred shares Of common stock before the
knickerbocker was absorbed by the Ice Trust
Odd you sell this stock because you were a
Dock Commissioner or for private reasons? Al
sold it because thought the matter might come
Q.-What leases made the Consolidated
Ice Company while you holding ice stock?
Ave received application for six piers.
struck and then sent the application TO
the treasurer. He struck out another. and we made
Lease for four piers. we took into consideration
In fixing the price that the American Ice Company
had surrendered six piers not desired
Q-Explain why one pier was leased to the Ice
company without being put up AT auction. while
another pier put up auction? A.-The law
1T.
The witness then questioned by his own
counsel for the purpose Of establishing that he
declared that there were 10S piers and bulkheads
competing companies.
Mr. Peckharn asked him to name the piers.
and the witness promptly produced list with
the desired Information. The witness said that
he did not know whether the independent ice
dealers were controlled by the American Ice
Company, but he did know that the Independent
companies paid their own bills.