The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1900-09-27

would go to war with each other. It
would have the effect of reducing this
nation to adversely and distress, because
IL would drive the chips Of those nations
from the seas, and for lack of trans
portat1on facilities compel us to keep Dir
export surplus at home. and by the very
volume of 1t would destroy the value of
the entire product of this nation. whether
coming from the farm or of workshop.
ana we would have that strange condi-
lion confronting US, in the midst of
pdenty we would be starving, like India
eoOds' ana farp s loss would be
measured by the extent of his erop O. he
would find that the price for his nrod,,ctS
"oulo De far below what it cost him To
pioouce, and he would find that the
s, e51t ms crop the greater his loss
again, under present conditions
~neH every nation is exerting every of,
c oe 70 reach out and secure the nations
ba sn n trent as their customers it will
oc seen now we would fare If Wa voya+
trust to the Jealous and contending No
eiohs 10 carry our products to thasA
same markets that would disnlaca az
products of their own countries we Sho,,IS
pe al tremendous DISADVANTAGES un1aas
we, we nao our own ships to assist in sec,,r-
ing this trade, and hold it when 80.
secured "neh onoo
MUST GRANT SUBSIDIES
How do you propose to restore Amer,
can ships?'' Aliell-
why through national legislation and
governmental aid. This can be eona
through national bill substituting An,erto
can ships'' &Aii1ell-
thought you and the farmers ware
opposeo 10 the subsidy bill now before
congress, and went down fo wasbi,,r-tas
last winter and appeared before co-,sa III
ionaI committees and vigorously -onnosad
the bill. opposeo
Yes that is true. I did annear and ~
pose the bill for many reasons on o.
count OIL the nature of the bill I'm ITS
hrst oraft. 1t was absolutely useless in
acconlpnshlng what the bill was de-
signed to do. 1 stated my Objections n
the committee which so impressed than,
tnat we secured amendments TO that Hill
winch we We're so much opposed tn 81
hrst draft. 1t was absolutely uslIlase in
we desired, we have "a fairly good bill
ana II Is now fairly satisfactory to the
farmers of the country
What were some of the cJ,a4 ohIao+
ions of the farmers, and what amend
ments cid you succeed in passing?"
me hrst objection was the speed and
capacity clause, which enabled a shin
| to earn large annual income, and did not
have to carry pound of freight This
was AMENDED that 1t must carry at least
| one-half of its capacity in cargo. he
| fore emitting it to compensation.
Another objection was giving the At
| lantic. the full limit Of the so 000 OOo
contemplated in the bill, as fully 81 Der
| cent OF the American vessels were en-
gagged in the Atlantic trade. This was
amended by setting aside s.. 900 900 for
the Pacific trade, which Is the trade
which the farmers are interested in.
! 1t gives the slow or tramp shin a
| larger and more generous compenae. tion
than the first bill for speed, as this ia
| the kind of vessel that formers are in
terested in, who carry freight. This was
/ one of the most important concessions se-
cured.
I'VE were opposed to paying anything
for return trip and compromised by re-
ducing compensation for same 20 per
cent
"It reduced the period of the SUBSIDY
from twenty years full compensation TO
ten years. and reduction for the remain
/ ing ten years.
Makes all ships Class A, l.
1T prohibits the application of COM
pensation to such lines of vessels as the
Standard Oil company and coal carrying
lines
ut applies the Sherman antitrust law
to all vessels combining to raise freight
rates.
ut compels all vessels coming In under
American registers to build another ves-
] sci of like tonnage. 1t gives foreign built
vessels only one-half Of the compensa-
ton of American built vessels
Don't you think these vessels would
be built and operated under the American
flag without subsidies?"
That was an impression which I had
at tlrst. but when came study the