The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 18??-19??, 1900-11-27

lily :.
..yes. I never cXrected TO bear OF II
a,,aiD but Judge Clark said if l ant
others didn't so on the stand he wouio
have Our names called and say we Wer"
afraid TO tell what we knew.
so YOU told Judge Clark all about Dr'
kilgo?'
No: but I gave him sources from
which he could get Information.
what sources? Did you not say THIS
morning that you did not give Judge
Clark names?
Il didn't give him names, but told
him where he could get them.
"Where?"
In South Carolina
And you didn't give him Names
No, SIR
How did he find out to whom to send
Mr.. Beckwith to get information?
Il don't know
The witness was closely questioned as
to the time and circumstances OF his con-
versation with Judge Clark
t"DOn't you know that the substantiatiOn
of those charges would ave ruined him
as a man and college president?'
1T doesn't seem that he thought SO, as
he told the Charleston News and Courier
that the charges against him dion [
amount TO D1uCn, any now.
Didn't you tell Dr.. Peacock that the
people of South Carolina couldn't under
stand why the people of North Carolina
were such fools over Kilgo?'
Il don't remember having ever used
such words; but l told him what | had
heard about DR.. Kilgo in South Carolina.
DR.. Peacock was my friend, and | wanted
to warn him
GsJOjJ van nyor toll 9nV ono else
Il told DR.. Beaman and DR.. Crawford"
'Hayen't you the reputation of talking
about your brethren?'
Il never heard of it until this matter
Didn't you talk about DR.. Kilgo to DR..
Underwood?
mo: DR.. Underwood and l were to-
gethcr; VIC were discussing DR.. Kilgo.
DR.. Underwood said Kilgo was a graduate
of Wafford College-that DR.. Kilgo told
him so. l maintained that DR.. Kilgo was
not a graduate of Wafford, but that he left
the college in the sophomore year. Dr.
Underwood repeated that Dr.. Kilgo told
him he was a graduate, and told me to
find out. and if he was not he would pre-
fer charges against DR.. Kilgo for i'm
morality. | found out that he was not a
graduate, and SO wrote to DR.. Under
wood
The witness admitted writing an article
about the CIark-KiIgo controversy and
having it printed in the News and OBJ
server. The paper was produced, and the
witness added: "And l believe l
wrote was true. | believed he would do
anything to clear himself. l wrote that
article after DR.. Kilgo's speech had APP
peared in at least four Gaily papers and
while that pamphlet was being printed"
VIII IiI,'t n ocJ tho North Caro-
lima Conference to take DR.. kilgo down
for his treatment of you?"
because l believed the majority OF the
no redress
why didn't you proceed in the way pre-
scribed by your church,"
flour of my friends tried to settle it,
without avail. Then l wrote out my
charges and secured members of the con-
ference to prosecute the case, but Bishop
Fitzgerald asked me not to press the mat
ter, but let the white flag wave over the
conference. told him l would seek my
redress elsewhere.'
DO you think any of the conference has
anything against yOu?'
Yes; those men who, after delibera-
ton. published that speech about me-
Didn't you borrow fifteen hundred dol
lars from Mr.. Dukc?'
Yes; on his endorsement l got money
from a bank, but paid it back with S per
cent Interest,"
This, he said, was about six years ago.
Touching his bankruptcy the witness was
closely questioned. He said the bank
ruptcy was voluntary and that among his
creditors was the Methodist Publishing
House IN Tennessee.
You bring a suit for damages here for
running your business. AS a matter Of
fact, were you not ruined in business
from the start?"
4 think not; it was the speech made
by DR.. Kilgo. l have no doubt that some
of them SO wrote when they quit trading
with me-
What was your stock worth in 1892"
Il think some three or four thousand
dollars"
Then why did you give it in for one
thousand and ninety-fve dollars?"
My son gave in our taxes, and if he
gave It in for that it was a mistake"
Asked as to the cause Of his failure, Mr..
Gattis said so many of the preachers were
indebted to him and after Investigation
some of them have not paid; there is some
sixteen hundred dollars still unpaid.
Mr.. Hicks questioned the witness in
detail about his circuit in Granville and
finally asked: Wasn't it a good cir
cult"
The people on it were fine folks, but
financially they were not SO well off, for
they were tobacco farmers and they don't
get much for their crop"
This caused great laughter in court on
account Of The American Tobacco Com
! pany's connection with the case.
Attention was now turned to an in
| surance policy in the Equity Life In
surance Company of Virginia. This policy
iapsed, and IN renewing it Mr.. Gattis Ger
| tilted thu he had suffered no impairment
of health, but soon became ill and the
company sued him for surrender of the
| policy, alleging fraud in securing the re
newal. He surrendered the policy on re-
| ceipt Of its cash value.
How much had you paid on the pol
icy?"
about four hundred dollars"
"How much did you get for the poIicy?"
"~Seventy-tWo dollars"
Asked if he was not an opium eater, The
witness said he was not. but that his
physician had administered morphine q
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