The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1900-05-13
WAR TALK In THE SENATE
MIR. HOAR EXCORIATEs SENATORS
WHO ARE ADVOCATES OF
IMPERIALISM
ARMOR PLANT BILL DEFEATED
Senators Deny Probability Of TrOu-
bic With Germany Over Monroe
DOctrine-HOw the Sena-
tors Voted.

WASHINGTON, May 12.-By a close
vote the senate today rejected the prop
Osition to erect, without reference to the
price at which the government could Sc
cure armor plate for it's warships an
armor plate factory The vote upon
the direct proposition was % to "a, and
subsidiary amendments were rejected by
about the same vote. When the com
mittee's proposition was about to be
voted upon a fflibuster was organized,
the quorum of the senate was broken
and the question is still in the air.
During the debate today Mr.. Chandler
On. H) delivered a sensational speech
In which he charged that the govern
ment had been defrauded in the adoption
OF the Harvey armor. He declared a
similar fraud was proposed in the at
tempt to force the government to adopt
the Krupp armor.
Mr.. Spooner (Wis) and Mr. Hale (Me.)
made notable speeches, deprecating the
war talk yesterday by Mr.. Lodge CIass.).
Neither the senator from Wisconsin nor
the senator from Maine was fearful that
we might become involved in a difficulty
with Germany on account of the Monroe
doctrine
"wretched imperialistic business" and
the talk that this nation had only re-
Gently become a world power" assert
ing that it had been a world power since
the war of 1872. He said:
Il am sick of hearing senators say
that since this wretched imperialistic
business we have become a first-class
power. The United States came out of
the war of 1872 a frst-class power, and
she has been a frst-class power ever
since-a power that has kept off the
whole of Europe from North America
and the West Indian islands except as it
was there before. The United States is
not as strong as it was a year ago, be-
cause it has bound itself over since that
time to keep the peace in distant possess
sions. The little country that did that
thing (the remarkable achievements of
the war of 1912 came out of the war a
hrst-class power. There has not been a
country since that time-great or small
thaZ has ventured to tackle US, and there
Is not country on earth, great or
Suslll, that would not have gotten out
o. any trouble with US by diplomacy
rather than by war"
ADMINISTRATION ATTACKED.
Mr.. Rawlins Otah), speaking in sup
port of a government armor factory,
made an attack upon the administrations
foreign policy He spoke of the United
States as trying 20 play the bully of
the Dardanelles, thus bidding defiance
TO the rest Of mankind"
Mr.. Spooner (Wis.) did not approve of
limiting the price of armor to $500 per
ton, and said he regarded it as very hu-
initiating to the United States that our
EhinS SbOnld IN lao
their armOr. He wanted our ships to
be completed and was wiling to vote for
the committees proposition to pay $445
perton or even $545 per ton, for the ar
NOR now necessary.
Il am in favor" said he, "of an in
crease in our navy. I have no desire
TO rival England in the magnitude of its
navy I am not ambitious that the
United States should enter into competi-
ton with any European power I will
not vote to speed these ships to compile
ton, as was suggested by the senator
from Massachusetts Qodge) yesterday
in order to defend the Monroe doctrine
The senator almost said we were in dam
ger from Germany on account of that
doctrine That doctrine is dearly cher
ished by the American people 1t is re-
garded as vital principle and it will
never be surrendered at the challenge of
any government, even though we have to
employ the almost ilimitable resources
OF the country in its defense [ believe
that there has not been a time in fifty
years when there was less danger than
there is today of the challenge of the
Monroe doctrine by any government un-
der the sky. I was surprised at the
suggestion contained in the speech of the
senator from Massachusetts Yesterday. as
an argument in favor of speedy compile
tiOn of the ships. or of increasing our
navy, that it might be necessary that we
should be ready to meet the CHALLENGE
of that doctrine by Germany I don't
believe it. I have on the highest au
tOrity warrant for asserting that there
has not been a time when there existed
a more cordial relation between the
United States and Germany than exists
today.
NO WAR WITH GERMANY.
Il look for no war, no trouble with the
empire of Germany I think there is M
foundation for any such suggestion. But
we must have q large raw I do not
say that we have become a first-class ma
tion in the sense that We have not been
one, but we are a developing and agres-
sive nation. Our commerce is constantly
expanding, and We will be content with
no limit or boundary. We must have a
larger navy We will have commerc al
interests in every country, and we must
be ready as we will be willing to safe
guard our interests in all parts of the
world"
In conclusion Mr.. Spooner argued that
inasmuch as the country is defenseiess
and at the mercy of two armor com
panies,' the United States ought to erect
its own armor plant without delay. The
present situation. he declared, was intol,
cradle.
In closing the debate Mr.. Hale Din
charge Of the bid said
Il don't believe that a great need or
necessity for an increase of the navy
stalks before us because of any appre-
hension of hostilities either now or In the
future, with the empire of Germany.
That great country is tied to us bv in
dissoluable bonds in the name of Il. 900 GOO
people of German extraction who today
make some of our best citizens
Il have no fear that any danger awaita
us from German intervention But we
do need respectable navy of the best
ships in the world. And with the vale of
waters between US and Europe nobody
need fear that any nation is likely TO
trouble u.s.
The amendment offered by Mr.. Penrose