The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1900-10-12
THE GERMAN
PROPOSALS
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as important chiefly in establishing the
most satisfactory relation between the
Government at Washington and Berlin.
The Franco Russian proposal takes
much broader scope and submits
programme under which the negotia-
lions for complete settlement can be
carried forward. The French charge,
M. Thiebaut, handed the proposition to
Secretary Hay shortly after noon to-
day and held a brief conference con-
corning 1t. Half an hour later, NJ. de
valiant the Russian charge, arrived
at the State Department and handed to
Mr.. Hay cable expressing Russian
approval of the propositions just SUBJ
mitted by France. Mr.. Hay gave no
formal answer to the two communica-
tions as they will go first to the Presi-
dent at Canton.
The Franco Russian proposition is
under four heads, namely, first, punish
ment of the guilty parties; second, in
terdiction of the shipment of arms into
China; third, payment of Indemnity to
the powers, and fourth, sufficient guar
antees for the future.
In addition a suggestion is made for
the establishment of a permanent lega-
ton guard at Picking; for the razing
of the Taku forts and for the mainten-
ance of a line of communication be-
tween Picking and the sea.
The impression here, in advance of
action on these propositions by our
Government, is that they contain moth
ing essentially uniting them to be sub
jects of consideration in a final settle
ment. The difficulty which is likely to
arise lies in the placing of proper limi
tations upon the scope of each head.
This is particularly true of the subject
of guarantees and perhaps that of in
demnity. STILL as already suggested,
each is undoubtedly most proper sub
ject for discussion, for when the final
negotiations are reached and, therefore,
NJ. Delcasse's broadest proposition,
while likely to consume some time in
reducing them to ultimate and binding
form may be said to have a fair recep-
ton awaiting them.
AS to the Introduction of arms, the
State Department already has intimat-
ed that there may be a question as to
its wisdom and there is reason to be-
lieve also that Germany will not view
that particular feature with approval.
But there appears to be good reason to
expect that a middle ground will be
reached by combining the Introduction of
arms to specified period, possibly to
be fixed by the time required by China
within which to pay the indemnity. The
chief objection to the proposition is in
its being permanent in its present form.
What the United States Government
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tering into of program that leans in
any manner toward the maintenance of
foothold on Chinese soil and If the
other propositions relative to the main
tenance of a line of free and safe com
munication between Picking and the
sea and to the legation guards could be
modified in the direction of temporary
expedients they will be more likely to
receive the support of our Government.
1t Is apparent from the complexity of
the latest Franco Russian proposal that
the phase of negotiations thus initial
ed will take some time to dispose of.
/ Following Is the text of the American
reply to the German uote, delivered to-
day by Secretary Hay to Baron Stern
berg, the German Charge d'Affaires:
TEXT OF HAYS NOTE.
WASHINGTON, Oct 4.-Following IS
the reply of the United States Govern.
ment TO the German note relative to the
punishment of Chinese offenders:
The Secretary of State to the Imperia
German Charge.
| The Chinese Minister communicates Z,
the Secretary of State on the Cd instant
a telegram received by him from Director
General Sheng, conveying the purport Of
an Imperial edict, dated September %
l9Vo, by which the degradation and punish.
ment OF Prince Tuan and other high Chi
nese officials Is decreed
The Government of the United States 1,
disposed to regard this measure as a proo
OF the desire Of the Imperial Chimes
Government to satisfy the reasonable de
mands. OF the foreign powers for the In
jury and outrage which their Legation
and their nations have suffered at RI,
hands of evil-disposed persons in China
although 1t has been thought well. /,
view or the vaguenes of the edict in re
gard to the punishment which some of tn,
inculpated persons are to receive, to sig
nifty to the Chinese Minister the Presi
dents view that II would be most regret
table IL Prince Tuan, who appears, from
the concurrfng testimony Of the Legation
in Peking, to have been one of the fore
most in the proceedings complained of
should escape such full measure of exem
plary punishment as the facts warrant o
IL Kung III and Chao Shu Ching shoul