The Irish standard., 1900-06-02


part in public life in Ireland?
Mr.. Campbell entirely object to
this. It has nothing to do with the case.
| Mr., Taylor-This is important to
show the character OF the libel COM
planned Of Ii Miss Come had taken no
part i'll public life this statement that
she was in receipt OF a government pen
sion would not be serious thing
Mr.. Swifte-I will take judicial notice
OF that.
The witness was cross-examined by
Mr. Campbell-You say YOU got no
money from the government? No.
| take it the statement OF your leading
counsel is correct that you have been
living since your fathers death on fund.
provided by him? On the money my
father LETT to me.
Was your father distinguished SOL
der III the English army? He was.
Are you ashamed OF your fathers
past? No.
And you don't consider it discredit
to him to hold position in the Eng
lish army? No, holding the views that
he held.
He obtained the position OF colonel?
Yes.
And while holding that Office he was
i'll receipt OF substantial income? He
was.
And l suppose drew it? OF course.
And l suppose you are not ashamed
OF your sister being married to mill
tary officer? I have nothing to do with
that applause in court.
MIR. Swifte said that if the applause
were continued he would have the court
cleared.
MIR. Campbell Ito witness)-Do you
consider it anything to be ashamed OF?
1t is no concern of mine.
l suppose you would agree that it is
never very courageous or manly thing
to defame woman? I think the ,opn-
ion is pretty general.
Would the person merit your censure
who detained the greatest woman in the
country? think if anyone defames a
woman as woman, but not as public
character, he deserves condemnation
Your idea is that you may defame a
woman if she is public character?
No.
Would you think that cowardly act?
I would.
l suppose you would think it cow
ardly thing to defamc men fighting for
their country in the service of their
queen? l would think it cowardly act
to dcfame those who were fighting for
their own country.
l suppose you would think it a shock
ing thing to describe Irishmen fighting
as soldiers on behalf OF her majesty the
queen as creatures with minds SO de-
generate and ignorant that they fifty
compare with the beasts of the field
would you approve of that language?
I would.
I think you said something equivalent
to that on many occasions? 1t is quite
possible.
Have you not for the past four years
been proclaiming in public that the Irish
soldiers of the queen were traitors? To
their country.
think you were present at a meeting
in Bcresford place at which one OF the
speakers recommended that those Irish
soldiers should shoot their officers?
did not hear that statement made.
Would you approve of it? I would.
So, therefore, if the statement was
made in your presence, so far from
contradicting it, you would approve OF
it? I,would. My attitude is sufficient
ly clear, and the more clear you make
my position in regard to the English
government the better it will be for me
and the graver the nature of Mr.. COLES
offence.
Mr. Can1phcll-I am not concerned
with your opposition to the govern
ment. This was the way you described
her gracious majesty the queen: "a
woman OF a vile and selfish and pitiless
soul?" l don't think that is the way
described her.
Listen to this: after all, she is a
woman, and however vile and selfish
and pitiless her soul may be, she must
sometimes trenlble as death ap-
proaches." You wrote that? Yes, that
is a translation of an article that ap-
peared i'll my paper in Paris.
d. you wish to repudiate it? No;
but the language in the translation may
change; but take the full responsibility
Of that article.
Here is another extract: "She has
always been ready to cover with her
royal mantle the crimes and turpitude OF
her empire?" l believe that.
This was very tasteful representa-
ton: Having the shamrock in her
withered hand" l should think it
was true.
1t shows excellent taste, does it not?
How is that relevant?
Do you consider it shows good taste?
l consider the statement to be true.
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