The times. [volume] (Washington [D.C.]) 1897-1901, 1900-03-16


his power to uplift his race. Prof. Hart
had appeared before the committee had
asked for certain help. and the commit
tee mad extended what il could.
Mr. Raw asked DO you know that the
Hart farm is not a reformatory 'nstitu-
tion. that 81 is just a farm run by an
individual 20 make money out Of DO you
know what a reformatory ist
=. Phiiauthrcpic work.
Mr. Grout defined what the word re-
fo-mato-y meant TO him He said Mr..
Hart is phuanthropIst who has put
every dollar he has into this farm that
DE might reform as many boys OF his race
as possible At this place the boy must
learn to use his hands and not depend
upon his wits. Al the Reform SchCl. for
Girls. operated 10y the District il costs
about $500 q year per girl. and at the
Reform School for Boys it costs 500 a
year per boy. just the sum that IL is pro-
cad TO have the Board Of Chldren's
Guardians pay TO the Hart farm for the
maintenance Of the boys committed to it,
I demand OF you that you point out if
you can, in what particular this provision
is a Steal-"
Mr. Ray said again that he had said,
or that. if he had not said that he in
tended 20 say, that this provision would
operate as a steal.
Mr Richardson said 70 was steal.
Mr.. Gruut-I demand that you point out
then where this provision would operate
as a stcal2
Mr. Ray asked unanimous consent that
he be allowed ten minutes within which
time 20 prove his assertion. and. con
tinuing. said. a member Of the Board Of
h.. sc a1n
reproach. came to me and laid certain
facts before me-
Mr.. Grout-Then. in common falrness.
why did you not present those facts TO the
committee instead Of waiting until the
bill got into the House il you believed
that it contained a steal?
4 did not know that the gentleman from
Vermont was running the Committee on
Appropriations. I spoke TO the chairman
Of the committee about the matter
Mr.. Cannon Takes n Hand.
At this moment Mr. Cannon entered the
House, drawn probably by the noise Of
the contention. He took Mr.. Ray to task
and said: You told me little while ago
that you intended to make a point Of order
against the paragraph in question.
While Mr. Cannon and Mr. Ray were
Nj Grout shaking his finger at Mr Ray.
said.
Did you tell the chairman Of the COM
mittee that il was a steal?'
Mr. Ray did not say il was a steal.
Mr. Richardsou-But you did.
Mr. Ray continued. and was explaining
TO the Committee Of the Whole just what
sort OF a place the Hart farm is. He said:
This farm is an individuals property run
by one man as an investment. II Is on
the south side Of the Potomac River be
low Mount Vernon
Mr. Grout-That shows how much the
gentleman knows about the subject Of
which he is talking. That shows how
much you about it, u is on the Maryland
side Of the river. not on the south side;
il is on the east side; there is no south
side to the river down that way.
This caused many persons to laugh. and
appeared to cause some confusion to Mr..
Raw. who said: "Oh. well, it is on the
Potomac River below Mount Vernon
Mr.. Grout-No. Il is not below Mount
Vernon. Il is just below Fort Washington.
Mr.. Ray-Wen. il is on the Potomac
River.
Mr.. Grout-Yes. that is the only thing
that is accurate in your statement
Attributed TO Mr. Hart.
Nj. Ray-Ny informant. who is mem
Der Of the Board Of Children's Guardians.
tells me that Nj. Hart said that if he did
not get some more boys al good prices he
could not pay of the mortgage on the
place.
Mr.. Grout-Do YOU mean TO say that Mr..
Hart made use OF the remark that unless
he could get more boys at good prices he
could not nav his mortgage
Mr.. Ray did not reply directly.
Mr.. Allen Of Mississippi interrupted the
New Yorker with this question. II the
Hart farm is such a bad place for boys,
and il il IS run just as a personal invest
mert. why is 10 that the Board OF Chu-
dreu's Guardians has voluntarily entered
into contracts with Prof. Hart 70 take
charge of so many boys. which IT has
turned over TO his care for $500 year.
Mr. Chairman. the milk in the cocosnut
is this People up here are always reach
ing out for a little more authority. This
provision limits the authority OF the Board
of Children's Guardians by making it man
datory that they shall DO something 10
ward encouraging 4 certain Institution,
and some member OF that board has Just
hung up the gentleman from New York
and induced him 70 make this grand stand
for economy ] an glad to see that my
friend from New York Is coming around 10
stand up against great crimes and drains
or the peoples money and insists Oh saw
ing SO a year on the board Of htty cclored
boys-S5o0 a year in all.
Mr.. cannon had moved around the House
since his entrance. Walking toward where
Nj. Ray was standing, he said he had 10
objection to being talked about in the
House either when he was present or
when he was absent He had given no per-
eoual attention to this matter Of the Hart
Farm school. but the subcommittee. Of
which M Gr0ut was chairman, had, and
he had full confidence IN that committee.
He thought that the provision in the bill
was q good one. and I'm The interest Of the
public good.
Mr. Ray said: II anyone has said 10
the gentleman from Illinois that ! have re-
ferred 10 him in other than a courteous
manner, that person is deliberate mis-
chief maker"
During all this boisterous wranglc the
chairman had sustained Nj Ray point Of
order.
Mr.. Barney said 10 Mr.. Ray that in COM
mon fairness he should remove the impress
sion which he had given the House that he
had told Mr. Cannon that the bill con-
tanned d steal. whereas Mr.. Cannon had
said that an Mr.. Ray had said TO him about
il was that he RAY intended to make a
point OF order against one paragraph In It,
He censured Mr.. Ray for not having COM
municated the fact TO the chairman OF the
subcommittee in charge Of the bill Of any
suspicion he might have had concerning
iobbery.
A member from Minnesota defended The
Hart farm, and implored Mr. Ray 10 either
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