Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1900-06-05

ject further, and he would not do so If he
did not desire to show to the Senate that
the whole matter was conspiracy-a part
Of a concerted plan to work up some po-
litiCal capital.
There was a pretty lively scrap in Co
Iumbus.'' said he. good humoredly. 1t was
due partly to the democratic party and
partly to the work of traitors to their par
ty and to their country, like the senator
from South Dakota.
Mr.. Hanna then went at length into the
charges made by Mr.. Pettigrew. saying
they had been published first In a demo-
cratic newspaper at Columbus and fully
and completely denied by him at the time.
He referred to Senator Burke of Cleveland
as one of the chief conSpirators in the sem
ntorial election. who had as republican
lent himself to the conspiracy against his
party and subsequently had been dfSbarred
and disgraced in his native city. {.
Not Representative of south Dakota.
Then he read a clipping from South
Dakota newspaper in which Mr.. Pettigrew
was characterized as traitor to his coun-
try and to his state and declared that he
did not represent the people of South Da-
kOta
That" declared Mr.. Hanna. vehemently.
lis my accuser in the Senate of the United
States. and that Is the estimation In which
he Is held by the people of his own state.
AS to the political phase of this matter
and that Is all there Is in I'll do not be-
lieve the senator from South Dakota
thinks his harangue will bring any tangi-
BILE results to his benefit. He does not be-
lieve that the people will regard him as
the Moses of the democratic-populistic
combination who is to lead them out of
the wilderness. His Examinations, with
which he has filed the Record, can have
effect nj mar hoN
often sat in my seat listening to him and
thought him insane Much of the stuff he
has uttered on this floor is the veriest rot.
when it comes to personalities" holly
asserted Mr.. Hanna, in conclusion, II will
stand up with him and compare my char
acter with his. He may tell what he
knows about me and Herewith emphasis
on every word-"I will tell what 1 know
about him
MIR. Carriers RejOinder.
Demanding and obtaining the floor as a
matter of personal privilege. Mr.. Carter
again addressed the Senate He spoke with
vehemence. and his sentences were clear
cut and incisive.
A gentleman, he began. had been quoted
in the Senate who had no right to be here
to reply to the statement concerning him.
and had been made to assume the authority
for statements concerning a purported con-
trlbution to the campaign fund of 1892. As
supplemental to that it had been stated
that the chairman of the committee of that
year practically had verified the statement
AS the statement reflects upon me- said
he. Il assume 1t my privilege to reply.
First it is said that Mr.. Cramp made the
statement that he contributed sIO0,UO to the
republican campaign fund in 80. l do not
believe Mr.. Cramp ever made that state
ment. He could not truthfully have made it,
and l believe him to be a truthful man.
From the senator from South Dakota has
come the intimation that If Mr.. Champ
ever gave such an amount to the committee
and any part of that purported contribu-
ton it had been diverted wrongfully.''
Conversation With Pettigrew Denied.
Mr.. Carter said the reported conversation
between himself and Mr.. Pettigrew was
pure creation of the imagination, as he
thought the conversation between Mr.. Pet
tigrew and Mr. Cramp, reported by the
former. must have been.
If Mr.. Pettigrew had ever informed him
that Mr.. Cramp had made any insinuations
that the funds had been diverted. Mr.. Car
ter said that his own sense of honor would
have impeied him to call upon Mr.. Cramp
for an explanation. So far as the alleged
conversation between himself and Mr.. Pet
t!Srew was concerned, he would repeat that
il mad never taken place.
1T is the pure creation of the senator's
ina gination. he said. land ] am at loss
to know how l have provoked that sena-
tors malice. sensitive as | am to such an
extent to cause him to make the personal
assault upon me that he has made today
Warning Regarding Pettigrew.
He then went to say that he wanted
to sound a note of warning to the demo-
cratic managers concerning Mr. Pettigrew
Even if such conversations had occurred
there had been a tacit understanding that
they were sacred because private There
oi,,l,
corning himself. but If there was any
truth of the reported talk with Mr.. Cramp
it was private conversation.
Mr.. Carter closed amid the utmost still
ness AID he addressed the democratic side.
saying: But let me give note of warning
to the brethren on the other side of this
CT amber. II these alleged Conversations
ever had occurred they carried with them
between gentlemen tacit understanding
" hich no gentleman anywhere would dis
IeSard Brethren the other side of this
chamber. you are henceforth to associate.
God knows how long. with the gyra,ing
political career of the senator from South
Dakota.
Ever keep in mind the statements made
by him today-statements which i brand,
in SO far as l am concerned. untrue.
The senator was mistaken in the person
with whom he talked. His memory Is at
fault. But If with Mr.. Cramp the CONVEX
sation did occur. | admonish those who
manage political affairs the other side
old adage: Those who lie down with dogs
may expect to get up with tieas.'"
Mr.. Pettigre,y II efterates His Statement
Mr.. Pettigrcw replied briefly saying tina,
the conversation had occurred.
Mr.. Foraker then referred to the Ohio
case and quoted James r. Garfield in ie-
Tense of Mr.. Hanna. saying that the re-
ports showed that there was no case against
Mr. Hanna. He said that the charges of
Mr.. Pettigrew would be answered in No
vcmber. the people of Oregon had yes
terday answered similar charges.
THE HOUSE.