The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1900-02-15
CURRENT SPORTING TALK.
LEAGUE MA0yATEs STILL FIDENT
THE ASSOCIATION WILL FAIL.

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More Information From Their Agents Con-
yinces Them That New DETERMINATION
WIN Not start This s~ensou-Soden and
Wagner Make Conflicting Statements.
The fact that the new American Association
has been formally organized by the election oil
officers Is annoying u a minority Of the National
League men. but the leaders still maintain an air
Of confidence and are free TO predict that their
new rival will not begin the coming season. II Is
the consensus Of opinion that as soon as the Asso-
daton promoters find hat they cannot complete
the Eastern end Of their circuit by the addition
Of either Washington or Providence they will
make an official announcement that operations
are suspended until next year, when they hope
~ make q stronger front More information
was sent East yesterday from Chicago, where
the Leagues secret agents have been watching
the deliberations Of Quin, McGraw. Arson & Co
True to their tip published in III Sun Of yes
to-day. Detroit was found wanting at the last
moment and Louisville was substituted. Az
the Philadelphia meeting a letter from I. j. Nnyin
was read showing that the Association had no
stronger city from a financial standpoint than
Detroit But in the past two weeks the League
has gotten In some fine work, possibly through
the medium OF Frederick X. Stsarns. 30 that
N6Nln mas Deou Cdlieu Ou. lHo SuDsutuhoh
ot Louisville Is not considered . move calculated
TO firmly bolster the new circuit In the West, es
pecially as that city has been a big loser In the
National League ever since II first secured mem
bership In 1891. Even with a crack team in
1898 and 1909, II failed to provide dividends for
the hackers Of the club. who sold out bag and
baggage to Pittsburg. Louisville Is also stu
ated 50 that the Jump from the other Western
cities will not be so convenient as II Detroit had
rmained in the circuit According to the best
Information yesterday Chicago was lettering.
The Leagues agents reiterated this last night
and declared further that Arson had admitted
To friends that he could not raise the necessary
funds. Upon being elected President Of the
Association, however, "Anse" agreed to try once
more to raise the wind there and II successful
he would give out facts and figures at another
meeting Of the new organization to be held at
Louisville. Should Arson decide TO throw up
his hands the whole scheme would fall through.
for there is no other available city in the West to
take Chicago's place.
The absence Of Thomas Mccarthy, Of the new
Boston club, from the Chicago meeting Ia regarded
Is significant. II is true that he sent on his proxy.
but the League agents say that he only lid this
II the earnest request Of McGraw, The latter
threatened TO throw everything overheard on
Monday when he found that Detroit had backed
out, and that Mccarthy had not shown up But
when the ~lattcr's proxy arrived the Baltimore man
decided 10 stick a while longer. 1t IN asserted,
incidentally, by the Leagues watchers that Nc
Graw has concluded TO play out his string as far
as 1t will go. but that il will not take a greatdeal
10 make him fly the white flag and agree upon
terms Of peace with Hanlon and Won der Horst.
MEG raw has been advised Of the fact that before
his Association club can make use OF the Baltimore
-.a.nplu la nhl AA.A 10 n htr.aA1 IL, . rrA
tracted battle in the courts. He is now convinced
that Hanlon intends TO so tie up Union Park with
legal cord that II the League team cannot begin
the season there the Association people will 30
kept out Of i for at least a year, in which event
McGaw and his friends will either have to build
new grounds or declare everything of.
simultaneously with the statement that tho
Association men want " ashington for their eighth
city comes a proclamation from Soden Of Boston
that It has been definitely determined TO start the
and Washington Soden says 1t was left TO him
10 deal with the Wagners, and that they have re-
receive $4,000 for the Washington franchise, in
addition TO about S27, 900 which they expect to
realize from the sale Of their players. Soden says
that the League was willing to pay about SIS ooo
demands II has been decided 20 let them stay in
the League for the two years remaining. But in
spite II Soden's statement, the " agners gave out
an official" piece Of news yesterday at Washing
ton that the League circuit had been virtually
reduced 10 eight clubs, and that their city had been
turned over to the Eastern League. These con-
hicting views are not at all strange, considering the
methods used by the magnatos these days.
Meanwhile the League clubs are sig ming their
players as fast as possible. President Young
admits that so per cent Of last years stars have
been r~e-engaged and that the balance are merely
holding Of for an increase in pay. BY the time
the Association gets into real working order, the
Leaguers say that there will be no first class
players left and that the new organization will
be compelled to invade the minor leagues or dig
up green nlent TO be developed in due time. One
fact, however, is more prominent than others.
The formal organization of the Association has
placed an obstacle in the way NJ an immediate
session of the Leagues Circuit Committee and a
conference Of the magnates as a whole. Just
when the League men will get together cannot be
learned.