The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1900-11-24
JUDGE SHUFORD
THROWS A BOMB
Continued From First Page.)

s'Where have you seen copy of it 2"
"In Durham in Greenwood, S. c., and in
Charlotte"
"Did you have any opportunity to reply
to the charges against you in this
speech?"
81 did not.
What effect had this publication on
your health?"
II had no rest, or a good nights sleep,
for two months. | suffered terribly from
nervousness and / think it affected my
health
"Give the names of those whose trade
you lost after the publication OF this
speech?"
s.Dr. T. N Ivey, editor of the Christian
Advocate; Rev. j. B. Hurley, pastor OF
the Wilson Church; Rev. G. A. Oglesby,
pastor of Main Street Church, at Durham,
and prosecutor in the trial; B. N. Duke,
one of the defendants; bred Peacock,
president of Greensboro Female College;
w. H. Branson and e. j. Parish of Dur
ham; also the following Sunday Schools
quit trading with us: Main Street, at
Durham; Dr. Oglesby's church, East Dur
ham; Fifth Street, at Wilmington; Eden
ton Street, at Raleigh: Market Street, at
Greensboro, and a large number of others
in both North and South Carolina"
MR.. GATTIs CROSS EXAMINED.
At this point court took an hours re-
cess for dinner. On reassembling OF the
court Mr.. Gattis went back to the stand
for cross examination by Mr. I. I. Hicks.
The witness said he met DR.. kflgo IN
1890, but saw him no more until 1894,
when he became president of Trinity Col
lege He visited South Carolina with DR..
Kilgo, and at that time heard no evil
spoken of him.
Didn't DR.. Kilgo make speech to the
conference introducing you?"
Yes; he made speech in my favor
and made one in his"
Didn't he speak favorably of your
books?"
81 suppose he did; had all the Metho-
dist books published that were worth
having"
"Who was the first man you told about
DR.. Kilgo's nalodorous reputation IN
South Carolina?"
"Judge Clark, in July, 1885,"
"You said this morning you told Judge
Clark the information was between you
and him, and yet he compelled you to tes-
tify?"
Eyes; 1 never expected to hear of it
others didn't go on the stand he would
Nhave our names called and say we Were
afraid to tell what we knew"
$50 you told Judge Clark all about Dr.
Kilgo?''
mo; but 1 gave him sources from
which he could get information"
what sources? Did you not say this
morning that you did not give Judge
Clark rames?"
81 didn't give him names, but l told
him where he could get them"
''Where?'
"In South Carolina"
"And you didn't give him names?"
mo, sir
How did he find out to whom to send
Mr.. Beckwith to get information?"
81 don't know
The witness was closely questioned as
to the time and circumstances of his con-
versation with Judge Clark.
Don't you know that the substantiation
OF those charges would have ruined him
as a man and college PRESIDENT"
cit doesn't seem that he thought SO, as
he told the Charleston News and Courier
that the charges against him didn't
amount to much, any how"
Didn't you tell DR.. Peacock that the
people of South Carolina couldn't under
stand why the people of North Carolina
were such fools over Kilgo?"
81 don't remember having ever used
such words: but l told him what | had
heard about DR.. Kilgo in South Carolina.
DR.. Peacock was my friend, and wanted
to warn him"
Ibid you ever tell any one else?"
II told DR.. Beaman and DR.. Crawford"
Haven't you the reputation of talking
about your brethren"
81 never heard of it until this matter"
Didn't you talk about DR.. Kigo TO DR..
Underworld"
mo; DR.. Underwood and l were to-
gether; we were discussing DR.. Kilgo.
DR.. Underwood said Kilgo was graduate
of Wafford College-that DR.. Kilgo told
him so. l maintained that DR.. Kilgo was
not graduate of Wafford. but that he left
the college in the sophomore year. DR..
Underwood repeated that DR.. Kilgo told
him he was a graduate, and told me to
find out, and if he was not he would pre-
fer charges against DR.. Kilgo for i'm
morality l found out that he was not a
graduate, and so wrote to DR.. Under
wood"
The witness admitted writing an article
about the ClarkKilgo controversy and
having it printed in the News and OBJ
server The paper was produced, and the
witness added: "And / believe what l
wrote was true. l believed he would do
anything to clear himself. l wrote that
article after DR.. Kilgos speech had ap-
peared in at least four daily papers and