The Hawaiian gazette., 1900-03-23
COUNCIL
OF STATE
Report of Committee
On Finance.
QUESTION BY J, A. KENNEDY
The Other Committees Ask for
Further Time to lnvesti-
gate Appropriations.
(From Wednesdays Daily.

at 3 D. IN. There were present Presi-
dent Dole and Ministers Mott-Smith,
Young, Damon and Cooper; Councillors
Achi, iGna, Allen, Kennedy. Bolte, ka-
ne, Gonsalves, Robertson. Kaulukou,
Robinson, Jones, Gear, Mott and Isen-
berg. Secretary Manson read the min
utes of the previous meeting.
Robertson Il did not understand
that the bills were passed at their first
reading"
Pres. Dole: do the minutes require
that they pass at first reading? The
motion OF MIR. Damon was that they be
read by title for the first time and re-
ferred TO the committees, believe"
This correction being made in the
minutes, they were approved.
Kennedy: Il would like to ask a
question. Has the Council of State
been called by President Mckinley in
stead OF the Legislature to pass upon
the requisite Appropriation bins for the
period ending December 81, 1901? III
so, Will the Executive please state the
reason why the regular appropriation
bills have not been placed before the
Council of Slater"
Pres. Dole: THE President has not
called the Council of State. He has
recognized 1t in regard to plague ap-
propriations, and the last bill which
was passed and sent to the President,
he has approved. There has also been
an Amendment to the Senate's bill by
which the President is authorized to
approve or provide for the expenditure
of pubic monies. There has been no
calling of the Council of State by the
President of the United States to pass
upon appropriation bills up to January
1, 1901"
Cooper: 81 think the President ex-
pressed himself clearly when he did
not think it wise to call the Legisla-
ture, but expected the Council of State
to make the necessary appropriations
L think the telegram from the Presi-
dent ought to be read. The Council of
State meets only to pass the emergency
appropriation bill. l hope the Council
will understand this Is not a complete
appropriation bill. The telegram to
President Dole reads as follows:
The President does not consider it
wise to reconvene the old Legislature
expecting the Council of State to pro-
vide Tor requisite expenditures until
Congress elects (enacts) the Hawaiian
Territorial Bill. He approved Act l of
the Council of State.
"'JOHN HAY.
II understand that this Is our au-
thority for meeting today. l under
stand the situation is this: the Minis
ter OF Finance has presented to the
Council of State the appropriation bills.
The Council of State has no power to
repeal an act of the Legislature, and
1s only to provide for the deficit which
now exists"
Robertson, on behalf of the Commit
tee ON judiciary and Attorney General,
stated the committee had not complet-
ed its Investigations and asked fur
ther time in which to prepare report.
Robinson, for the Committee on For
eign Affairs and Public Instruction, re-
quested similar extension of time to
conduct the necessary Investigations
before embodying the results in the
committees report.
The report of the Committee on FL |
nance Department was read by Jones,
as follows:
Honolulu, March goth, 1900.
To the President and Members of the
Council of State.
Sirs: Your committee to whom was
referred items in the Finance Depart
ment OF Act 2, now before the Council,
beg to report as follows:
Under the head of Department of FL
nance in Act 2, the following appropria-
tions are asked for:
Interest on all loans and advances.
including remittances to london,
$45,00O.''
We are advised by the Minister of
Finance that he has allowed for the
payment of interest only $685. 900,
which will not be sufficient to pay the
amount of interest on amounts to be-
come due during the next two years,
especially If the items asked for In
Bill are appropriated by the Council
OF State, for which bonds are to be is
sued. We therefore recommend that
this item be appropriated.
The next item Is Redemption of
outstanding bonds, Act of Oct. gath,
1880, $4,000; the total bonded indebt-
edness and the Government and Postal
Savings Bank. as per Minister OF FL
nance report, is $4,S90, 351.49, OF which
amount the United States Government
is to pay 100000, leaving a balance
to be borne by the Hawaiian Govern
ment OF sS90,351.49."
These bonds will become due on De-
cember 18th OF the present year, and
If our affairs are not fully arranged by
that date 1t Is our duty to make provi-
sion for payment of same, as 1t will be
unfair to the holders of the bonds not
to receive the money due them, espe-
cially as 1t will make no difference In
adjusting our settlement with the
United States GOV ernment We &C
cordingly recommend that this amount |
be appropriated.
Under the Postal Bureau, the follow |
ing amount are asked for: Incident
ais Postal Bureau UNPAID bills,
1880 s9.05230." These bills have
been carefully examined by your COM
mittee, and the amount corresponds