The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1900-08-28
RUSSIAN HITS KAISER
Prince 0ukhtOmSki Gives Out
Remarkable Interview.
HE TALKS OF CHINA
FRIENDLY TO AMERICA. BUT
BITTER TOWARD GERMANY.

New York, Aug. 27.-Prince Hespere
Oukhtomski, Notwithstanding to his
imperial majesty the Car Nicholas, and
editor in chief of the Veidomosti of ST.
Petersburg, the chief government organ
of Prussia, who arrived in this city on
the steamship L'Aquitaine. is on his way
TO China as a special commissioner.
Prince Oukhtomski declared that Ger
many was doing her best to hamper Rus
STA and destroy her influence in the far
east. Between Russia and America, he
said, there was not the slightest ill-feel-
ing, and Russia was rather pleased than
otherwise to see America taking a hand
in the Chinese imbrogiiO. Russia was not
in favor of dismemberInent, he said, and
all stories 10 that effect We're entirely
untrue
Prince Oukhtomsld conversed freely on
the eastern situation.
German influence is dying in China,
and l must say il is a very bad influ-
ence, ne said, for the Germans have
not much to risk there and everything
TO gain. They began by taking the Bay
of kiao Chou, and they have ever since
been threatening the empire. China OBJ
Jected TO having the Germans so near
the capital. and eagerly offered the in
vaderS land in the southern part of China.
| The Germans, however, refused 10 go
south and insisted on taking Kiao Chou,
despite strong protests.
Lii Hung Chang, who Is great friend
of mine, told me at that time that the
greatest disasters would follow iumedi-
ately if Germany'S activity did no. cease.
" If you destroy our government as
the Germans do he said. the govern
! ment will not be able to hold in check
Il do not believe that Russia is at war
with China. We are only lighting the
| Chinese who are destroying our railway
and our generals are moving against
| these rebels in Manchuria.
Pekin March a Mistake.
1--WE have sent our troops to defend the
| central government, but l am afraid IL
| was a great mistake for the allied troops
] to go to Pekin at all They will make
4 the difficulties greater.
Now the Chinese government VIII go
| to the interior. They will continue TO
/ fight the foreigners and il will be i'm
/ possible to say who rules. The empress
| did her best to stop the troubles. If Ger
| many had wished to see them dead, she
! had only to tell her troops to cease de-
| tending the legations
Germany went to the east to do harm
/ to Russia, and so caused most of the
difficulties with Russia and afterward in
/ the far east. 1t was the beginning of a
| be that she did not think so much about
| doing harm to Russia when she seized
| Kiao Chou as she did of con0uerlng fOr
| herself.
''At any rate / am afraid she is doing
much harm to Russia, for we had the
/ predominant influence in China Ger
| many could not harm us in Europe, tor
| there her geographical situation, De
| tween Russia and France, was bad, SO
/ she went elsewhere, where We were more
| vulnerable.
Waldersee Wants Glory.
Germany will have some Importance in
| China so long as the powers keep to-
! gether, but Germany alone can do moth
! ing at all Waldersee is coming to Shang-
! hal in three weeks, and if he comes he
/ will want some great and glorious de-
| featS of Chinese. The German press Is
! already saying, We want to push for
ward. We don't want to remain in Pc
! kin The German newspapers not long
ago were opposed to dismemberment
! Now they are strongly in favor of it.
| "RuSsa has only to defend her interests
in Manchuria. She does not seek TO annex
even a small bit of territory, because II
| would be a great burden 10 her. | know
from the very best sources why dismeIn-
berment of China is not the wish of oul
/ government
! 1--WE could have annexed Manchuris
long ago, because the MOngOlians hate the
] Chinese, and would be glad TO be Rus
sian subjects. Manchuria, however, would
be d heavy burden.
China's Awakening a Danger.
Il mean to say that the awakening o
| China is a dangerous thing, both econom
! lCaliy ana pOuilCdlly- 1HSIS - upt, INV
ever, a yellow peril in the way the Ger
man emperor meant The Chinese art
very good people, and I think the danger
is more economic than military.
The powers will, however, try to drill
native troops, and that will be grea
danger. for l am sure that II time thes'
foreign-devil troops will form the rea
body of a hostile native army
Russia does not care very much Y n
er the United States keeps the Phi 2
of leaves them, but | think RUSS Il
prefer to have America keen tn
as a sort of a counter balance or &
Japan, who will be cur great enen ' .. n
future.
Japan will not only be the e. o
Russia. but of all the European D.@ers
The Chinese question will be hard to set
tie There are too many powers in ii
Why, even Italy is sending dozens of mel
over there. The struggle will be of end
less duration
No Objection to Americans.
Russia has no objection to the Ameri
can flag in China. Tien Wan will be al
open door to Manchu, but it is difficult t
| say whether all of Manchuria will be a.
open door. To make a great railway an
then only use it for foreign merchants {
! bring goods into our territorial posses
siOns would certainly be to our disad
!, vantage.
Il am sure America would have NOR
trade in a united China than in a dismem
| bered one. In fact il would be better 70
all trading nations. II Germany seized