The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1900-10-13
"what security ?"

'swhat security?'
MY signature and that of Roy Richey
in my Office
did you pay the note?''
Yes
Where did you get the money!"
Il earned it,"
WAS this a transaction to cover up
the payment of this bonus?"
what do you mean?'
1.-THE bonus you received"
st never received q bonus or interest -
did you not. receive the cancellation
of your note as consideration for the
use of state funds?"
mo, sir. I never received a cent of
bonus or interest"
MR.. GRIMES REFUSAL.
Mr.. Doran then asked if Mr. Grimes
had given any notes, or was security On
notes at the banks.
Mr.. Grimes declined to answer these
questions saying that he had signed sew
eral notes for his friends, and he would
not betray their business affairs
Mr.. Doran asked Adr Grimes if the
money obtained on these notes was not
as bonus or a part payment of the in
terest, and asked if Grimes had gotten
any of the money.
NO said Mr.. Grimes, land you
know I didn't, Doran.''
Mr.. Doran resumed the examination
as to the amount Of money in local
panl1s, but Mr.. Grimes was unable to
answer definitely. He said:
IF those figures are from the audit
or's Office records. think the amounts
are correct"
It was estimated that there was in the
local banks, August 8, 1899, over $500, ,000-
DO you go after the money collected
by the banks, personality asked Doran.
Il give checks and the banks honor
them''
you don't take out the money but
leave it subject to your check?"
Yes, as needed for state purposes"
''Then you have never gone to a bank
and carried the cash TO the state treas
Il place these drafts for collection;
when this is done receipt to the person
sending it in. The bankers bring money
to me, and I give them checks"
You allow the banks to manage the
money after collection, and bring it to
you, or keep it2'
4 manage that to suit the state bust
ness. It's more convenient for me-"
mo doubt of that said Doran.
HOW MONEY Is PAID.
'sWhen you stamped warrants unpaid
for want of funds, was there not large
amounts of state money in the local
banks?"
s.Yes," said Grimes.
''Why did you do this?"
Because the law provides that can
not take money from one fund TO pay
claims against another. The money IN
the banks was not to the credit of the
general revenue fund, against which the
warrants marked unpaid were drawn.
do you require the banks to keep the
balances credited to the various funds?"
II don't know how they keep their
books, was Grimes reply.
Our books are the records and check
on the various funds.''
Does one draft frequently cover sew
eral funds?"
Yes, sir"
How do you know that there was no
money in the banks belonging to the
general revenue funds?"
Our books show the balances in the
sirs7Fz &c
when these warrants were unpaid,
was there not money in the local banks
to the credit of the general fund? 2"
1--WE want the books" said Doran.
"All right" replied the treasurer.
1.-The records of the treasurer's office
can not be brought here said Mr.. Hite-
1--WE must go to the Office
wen arrange for that" said Mr..
Doran.
THAT'S what we want said Doran.
do the banks notify you when
draft is collected?"
mo: i! don't know as they do. I can't
tell. It's an every day occurrence.
Answer my question"
mo, they don't.
.Have you notes in any Of the banks
now?''
Have you had any in which you had
personal interest and appeared thereon |
as surety?"
'dave you received in any manner
through tLeSe notes or any other con- !
sideration for the use of the state mon
cyl No"
FRANK WILLARD INCIDENT.
The Frank Willard incident was here
presented.
did you telephone to Frank VIII
Perhaps I did"
ibid you ask him to pay you IL or |
per cent on money left in the Merchants |
National bank?"
it?''
mo, sir"
did you have any such arrangement \
with Willard?"
mo, SIR
did you ask A. A. Hurd for pass?''
Yes, sir.
For whom?"
Il didn't say"
did they ask you for the name?"
mo"
did you tell the name?"
mo. sent a note"
did you get the pass?"
''Yes''
''Whose name was on it?"
GOT PASS FOR WILLARD.
s'Mr. Willard's"
''Were you out to WiIlard's house?'
mo, sir
''who did you send?''
Nobody"
How did he get the pasz?"
"On the street"
How did you happen to get the
pass?''
He asked me for it
Did you call Willard up before he
asked for the pass?"
Yes
What for?''
ITO talk to him"
WAS Willard to go away on the fast
mail?"
4 don't know"
tramp
4 don't know"
Did you deliver it to Willard person
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