The evening times., 1900-05-12
ARNOR FOR HARSHIPS
Senate Amendments TO the Naval
Appropriation Bill.
Speeches for and Against the PrOpO-
sitiOn TO Build Government Fac
Chandler, stewart, RawIins. and
spOOner-TO Vote This Afternoon.

Inc vote viii Dc taken. hrSt on hr. Ill
mans minority amendment providing that
the Government shall offer the armor plate
makers $500 per ton. without royalties, and
if this is refused. the Government shall at
once erect ITS own armor plate plant. the
amendment carrying an appropriation of
F4ooo.co0 for this purpose.
Should this be defeated & vote will be
taken on the Naval Affairs Committee
amendment providing that tie Secretary
OF the Navy shall be instructed to pro-
cure arinor for the naval vessels already
ordered. the cost Of the armor not to ex-
eeed, $4f5 per ton Of 2.240 pounds. iHeIud-
ing royalties Il is further provided that:
Ii. after advertising tJr the armor, the
Secretary Of the Navy sSould be unable 10
contract for such aTmor designated above.
then, and in that event the Secretary
Of the Navy is authorized 10 pro-
cure armor Of the best quality for the bat
tleships Maine, Ohio, and Missouri, now
awaiting armor, and 10 pay therefor not TO
exceed $545 per ton Of : z40 pounds; pro-
vided further. that II the Secretary Of the
Navy has found, after such advertisement,
that armOr plate Of the best quality can
not be purchased from private manufac-
? 24O pounds. then, in that event. he is
hereby directed 10 procure or purchase q
suitable site and erect thereon an arntor
plate factory al cost not 10 exceed 81
000,Gooi and 20 carry out the purposes Of
this provision the sum OF & COO 600 is
hereby appropriated and made Immediate
ly available, out Of any money in the
Treasury"
Mr.. ChandIer's Argument
Mr.. Chandler spoke at length il favor Of
a Government armo--plate factory. He de-
MED Mr.. AllisOu's statements that there
was any great difference between Krupp
plate and Harvey plate. and said that Hsz-
vey aTmOr was az good as the KrUpp. He
also denied that there wss any secret in
the KrUpp process He recited an extended
history Of the Harvey process and It's u-e
by the United States and other Govern
nents.
'Krupp armor is simply Harvey srmor,
into winch the carbon IS driven TWO or
three times further than in the latter
process There is no secret TO it said
he The krupp process has never been
even patenJable-"
Mr.. Hale asked II Ar Chandler would.
If he we're Secretary Of the Navy. select
Harvey or Krupp armor for the naval YES
sells
.Krupp sr11or IS little harder than
Harvey armoT said Mr. Chandler. but Il
were paying Sii5 per ton for armor.
would get them 70 harden the plates clear
through They can 90 81 They VIII DO
IL and VIII come 20 Us demanding 5000
per ton simply because they had decided
10 harden 10 through"
What objection have you 10 building 4
Government amor planI2" asked Mr.
stewart OF Mr Hale.
Well, il might be a good thing" said
Mr. Hale but ! would rather get he ar
mor from the private ecmpanies- I want
10 give them chance 20 make the plates
How can you hold the companies 10
your rates2" asked Mr. Stewart
Il don't knOs. - answered Mr. Hale.
4 don't believe The Krupp process has
any great merit. Al all events. I don I
want 10 fool with this armor plate trust
any longer. I believe that We all favOr
a Government armor plant but some OF
Us want to follow IL the way OF the CON-
mittee- Government plant is The Cnly
remedy, and / hope We VIII vote TO erect
IL at once
Mr. Bacon stated that If the Senate
agreed 10 give the armOr people S445. il
would only be a year before they would
demand more money and a Government
plan would have to be erected anyway
Mr. Lodge can hardly contend that We
are alrays 10 remain in the power Of the
We need a great amount Of amor, and
should make il ourselves"
Mr.. Stewart stated that tie evidence was
all against the ArmOr Trust and while he
did not deny the right OF s corporation 10
get all ii could he did nc: propose to have
the United States used as cox. to be
MIXED from year TO year.
The United States is nov a first class
power" said he. anu We ought 10 be
ready for all emergencies First and most
important is our Eavy and We mus have
some means Of aTmorin5; our vessels in
dependent o. any corporation Without a
factory OF our own We never viii have ar
NOR plate On reasonable terms
MIR. Hoar's Patriotism.
4 want to protest against Mr.. Stewards
statement that the United States has got
to be hrst-class power said Mr.. Hear.
"Iae United States went out OF the war OF
1872 a frst-elass power and has been one
ever since We have kept the peace for
some time but We viii always be a first
class power Th5 Duke OF Wellington ac-
knOWledged this in 1916. we are not as
strong as We were q year ago as we have
been bound over TO keep the peace. The
finest treatises on naval gunnery published
in Great Britain give nineteen examples Of
splendid work Seventeen of these were
with Yankee vessels which had been victo-
rlouS. We came out a frst-class power
and there HASN'T been country since that
dared to tackle US and that wasn't glad TO
get out Of any rouble with US.
Mr.. Rawlins said that he believed that
armOr plate on naval vessels would follow
the ancient helmet and coat-of-mail.
The battle will be TO the swift and the
mobile" said he. Mr.. Lodge stated that
by virtue Of the Monroe Doctrine. the
United States must be the dictator on this
Continent. We must also have a share in
the control OF the worlds interests We
have seized over l,e00 islands We will
share in the partition Of China and viii
play the bully in the Dardanelles
There is a great international armor
trust, with two plants ia this country. The
Emperor Of Germany is a stakeholder in
the combine. And with our policy as an
nounced, We are in danger from this trust.
We should not be subjected 10 the control
of a combine which dictates across the At
iantie whether or 10 We shall armor our
vessels as We want them. We should be
able to equip our OWN shipe-"
Mr.. Spconer said that he would vote fo-
the committee amendment authorizing the
Secretary OF the Navy to pay s545 per ton
for armor to complete the battieships
Maine Ohio. and Missouri. though he
thought the price was exhczbitsat AID IN
outrage.
I am in favor Of increasing the Navy
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