The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1900-10-16
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mo. SIR
HAS Grimes ever approached you on
/ this proposition
mo, sir"
HAS Mr.. Grimes ever received any
money from your bank outside of his
transactions otficia1ly?''
mot to my knowledge"
You would know if any money had
| been paid2"
probably I would
How long was this money to remain
/ in the banlx?'
1T was always subject to the demand
/ of the treasurer
Frank Thompson, teller of the Central
| National bank, swore that he has had
no transactions with Grimes, except, so
far as relates to his official business as
state treasurer.
Have you any knowledge of the
| banks paying the treasurer for the use
| of state money
mo, sir
Have you ever heard of such trans
actions?"
mo, sir.''
who would know"
Mr.. Bonebrake or Mr.. Knowles"
Have you ever had conversation
with Grimes about this subject7'
mo, sir
Know nothing about it?'
Mr.. Bonebrake stated that he had not
| heard, and had no knowledge of any
payments of interest or bonus to Grimes
| the First National bank, who has been
manager of the local clearing house, tes-
titled that he had never heard of any
payments of interest having been made
to Grimes: knew nothing about it, and
was excused.
Then. owing to the fact that Major
| William Sims, president of the First Ma
/ tional bank, is out of the city, and Mr.
| Freeman was excused until Wednesday
morning, an adjournment was taken I'M
/ til that time.
The officers of the Bank of Topeka
and State Savings bank will be sum
moned for examination tomorrow.
MONDAY AFTERNOON TESTIMONY.
Continuing his testimony in the Grimes
| case Monday afternoon Mr.. Ware said
''On my own behalf I object to being
asked to give hearsay testimony in this
your objection is valid" said Mr.
Doran.
'sWould you tell US who you heard this
| from?''
mo. think I will not say" replied
Mr.. Ware
''All right. wen pass you on that
proposition" said Mr.. Doran.
rs this information of such a nature
as to be hearsay?"
sfWholly so, because have never seen
Grimes in the bank; I have never seen
anything which would cause me to
suspect that Grimes was engaged in
such a transaction. I once asked the
president of the bank if such interest
he replied no.
Mr.. Ware further testified that no one
| had ever talked to him about such in
! terest payments Il regard such trans
actions as illegal and would have re-
Tnembered it, had any one mentioned it
/ to me-
zone of the reasons why resigned as
a director of the Merchants National
bank was because I objected to the
banks carrying so much state funds
mean public funds-becauSe there were
| other funds which COnld he had -
Mr.. Ware stated that he had no knowl-
edge of the payment of moneys by the
! Central National bank, of which he is
now a director to individuals or to COM
nittees for any purpose.
Arthur Capper was the next witness
| He interviewed Mr.. Grimes at the state
house, and said that Grimes had sug-
! gested he call upon the bankers and ask
for affidavits concerning the payment of
| interest on state funds.
You got One?" said Doran.
| Yes
From whom? ''
1.-THE State Savings"
did the others refuse?"
mo, they did not refuse, but they
gave several reasons why it would not
be wise. Mr. Bonebrake said there was
nothing in the charges and that the
newspapers were working the case for
a sensation
did Grimes tell you he wanted to
hush the matter up?''
what did Grimes say?''
'aThat there was nothing in the charges
and that he was being prosecuted.
Did Grimes ask you to get the afi-
davits?''
mo; I asked him about the case, and
! he simply suggested that / could get
| at it better by seeing the bank officers :"
Mr.. Capper was excused, and a con-
! troversy as to adjournment ensued. Mr.
| Carver and Mr.. Hite again protested be-
cause no witnesses were present, but
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