The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1900-06-06
POIGNANT DEBATE
IN THE SENATE
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crews charge about the Cramps alleget
contribution.

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Crews charge about the Cramps alleged
contribution.
No PROMISES MADE.
Instantly Mr.. Hanna was on mis- feet.
."1f,'' said he, II should undertake to re-
ply to all such statements made on this
floor, 1 would occupy more time OF the
Senate than even the Senator from Geor-
gia does. UaushteD. | heard the state
ment, and considered it unworthy of no.
tice. and l declined TO dignity it by 4
denial.
II had nothing to do with the campaign
of 1892, but I have heard this story. and
I say most enlphatically and decidedly
that 1 believe it is not true So far as
such illusions are made TO the campaign
OF 1896, 1 desire to say that no promises
were made. No considerations were OF
fered to any person or any corporation
for contributions made
Mr.. Carter then replied: The statement
OF the Senator from Georgia, he said,
'.is the first intimation 1 have had that
such a charge was made by any person.
As to the statement. somebody ought TO
be responsible for it. l say now, and
there are Senators on this floor who will
bear me out, that any charge tnat con-
trbutons We're thus received. or that
any promises We're made to corporations
or to individuals, is absolutely false, and
can be branded properly only as lie.
Money was received by the committee,
but only through voluntary contributions
In that campaign the patty was defeated
and ting country paid the penalty Of that
defeat
Mr. Pettigrew said ne knew that the
statement that a contribution OF 100000
had been made 20 a National republican
Committeeman in 1892, and that he was
to be reimbursed for it py contracts Tor
additional warships. My authority for
the statement is Mr.. Cramp. himself" de-
clared MIR. Pett.grew, deliberately
He told me, nos in confidence, as L be-
Iieve on an ocean liner coming across
the Atlantic. He did not know where the
money had gone, and had employed de-
tectives to find out. He minated that
it lad been used for campaign purposes
HIT HIM PRETTY HARD.
"Moreover," continued Mir Pettigrew,
his words kissing through the Chamber.
Il have said the same things to the Sena-
tor who was chairman OF the Republican
National Committee of that year, and ne
waved it off smilingly with the state
meut, We'll, we did hit the old man pref
ty hard
Adverting to Mr. Hanna, Mr.. Pettigrew
brought up the charges OF bribery, which
had been made against the Ohio Senator.
Mr. Hanna said he felt like offering an
apology to the Senate for pursuing the sub
iect further, and he would not do SO Ii
he did not desire TO show the Senate that
the whole matter was a conspiracy, part
of a plan to work up some political casA-
tai.
There vwas a pretty lively scrap in
Columbus said he. good humoredly. II
was due partly TO the Democratic party
and partly to the work of traitors TO their
party and to their country like the Senator
from South Dakota"
THOUGHT HIM INSANE.
He read a clipping from South Dakota
newspaper in which Mr.. Pettigrew was
characterized q traitor to MS country and
to his State, and declared that he did not
represent the people of South Dakota. His
Nominations can have no effect upon
thoughtful men. I have often sat III my
seat listening TO him and thought him in
sane. Much Of the stuff he has uttered on
this floor is the veriest rot.
when it comes to personalities, notify
asserted Mr.. Hanna in conclu~ion, Il will
| stand up with him and compare my char
acter with his. He may tell what he
knows about me and then with emphasis
on every word-'I will tell what I know
about him.
MIR. Carter again addressed the Senate
LAS the statement reflects upon me- said
he Il assume it my privilege 70 reply.
First it is said that Mr.. Cran1p made the
statement that he contributed 100000 to
the Republican campaign fund in 1872
! do not believe Mr.. Craulp ever made that
statement. He could not truthfully have
made it, and l believe him to be- a truth
| full man.
Ar Carter said the conversation be-
| tween Mr.. Pettigrew and himself was a
| pure creature of the imagination as ne
| thought the converse ton between Mr..
] I,,1-N
Mr.. Pettigrew had never had any CONVEX
| satlon with him on the matter.
SACREDLY PRIVATE.
Even il such conversation had occurred
there had been tacit understanding that
| 1t was sacredly private.
| His memory is at fault, but if the con-
versation with Mr.. Cramp occurred, L ad-
| monish those VINO manage political con-
Germs on the other side, beware and bear in
mind the old adage. those VINO lie with
| dogs, may expect to get UP with feas.
| Mr. Pettigrews reply was brief He as
serted that his conversation with both Mr.
| Cramp and Mr.. Carter had occurred as ne
! had related He said he had made no
| charge that Mr.. Carter, as chairman Of
| the National Republican Committee, had
| diverted the funds. He also repeated that
the reported conversa ton with Mr. Carter
had trdnspired.
1T took place" he said. there in the
| Senate chamber"
| Mr. Foraker then read extracts from the
| minority report of State Senator James R.
| Garfield on the invesdga ton into the
| Ohio senatorial election which he believed
! would satisfy the people of the United
| States that the investigator was not one
| OF serious import.
COULD SECURE INVESTIGATION.
| Mr. Bacon then continued He contend
ed that it was the duty of Congress TO
remain in session indefinitely until this
! important legislation was enacted. The
| trusts knew their friends, and Mr. Bacon
predicted that when the campaign began
! the Golfers of the Republican managers
would be full to running over with con-
| tributions.
| Mr.. Teller suggested that if Mr.. Carter
/, felt aggrieved over Mr.. Pettigrew' s
! charges, he could secure an investigation
| by committee of the Senate.
| The conference report on the Alaskan
! Code bill was presented, and the bill now
goes to the President
Mr.. Scott. of West Virginia. spoke on
| the Philippine question. He was confident
! the islands would remain in the possession
| of the United States.
Nr. Pettigrew, resur1ing yesterdays