The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1899-08-02

denlng. and interior decorating and plans fol
The WitSSess Wss t tRen asked his firm had
pot had the contract for building certain scowf
pairing and changing tho machinery in ali o!
the fireboats. He replied In the Affirmative. and
And. incidentally. 1 might tel. you that We
have the contract for building the largest sani-
tarium In this country at Sailors Snug Har-
Dwell. you condemned the architectural
work OF such q well-known architect as Mr..
10 TO be an architectural monumen mt In this city
A--The Hall OF Records is not to be any archi-
OF was to be fine building, was IL not ?
Their than that. our condemn alton was sus-
this country. published In Boston.
>,Q.,,Cap you name any paper published In
supported your condemnation A.-No; be-
capse they are are all pr NJ vb,t marble,
Al don't remembers ,, ;, .,,,,. o..
0Ewhat kind Of marblef A.-Connemsra
o."What kind OF marble is that' A-oh. IT
comes from Connemsra ,
The witnesses remark about the Connemars
%h crested %h much M
Mr., slattery was then asked a number, Of
sbout eng eng neeFnS and arehitsctuzS Instead
Slined to answer. usuaiiy referring Mr.. Moss TO
his partner, Mr.. Horgan. Horgan. h" said.
Tie on.sSa o. shS f after rer
Mr., Horeap was recalled snd bis l sttention
Contractors who might desire to bid on certain
work In which It was stated that plans for the
elattery. Among these plans were drawings
for, sidewalks and landscape gardening at
o.@The transition from sidewalks to interior
S II Pnb0 Was fss g Sns
understood mine. and l stand By whatever I
Dickson plans for the new Tombs 2 .A.-The
Rirders were not OF sufficient. strength to sup
III we nnch to e sSd Wssf were thy
They were not strong enough to hold moro
'h + Se Of h ahch e sdn3 Sc pre
ths share Of or b Ga %. With
at first to answer sP the question. saying that It
a6suFd He ay that hs
why this was SO, he replied
II positively decline to answer that question.
You are not eapabe 81 nndeFsndhS the an
don't propose to waste my time In answering
such question"
WRITER'S WAS NOT cRoKER's MAN.
Frederick Clark Withers OF the firm OF
withers 4 Dick SON. architects. who made the
6ity Prison. testified that he was a membcrof
tute OF Fine Arts. and that the work Of recon-
structing the Tombs was g wen TO his firm by
Commissioner Wright under Mayor Strong.
The mason and structural iron work was let
out. and the heating. lighting and cell work
we're carried over into the new administration
In IN raI II a f1f "a
prison OF detention These cells were to be of
steel. surrounded by walls OF masonry. The
beam work was carefully planned and sutll-
cicntIy strong to support the cell system. His
plans were on ,tiIe when he was notified by
Comm Ssion"r lantry OF the engagement OF
H"rgan Il SIattery to take the work out OF his
HAMS uu
Estimntn and AppOrtlonment,' said the wit
ness. protesting against the failure to con-
tinue our work ana the purchase of two sets OF
plans for the sam" work, embodying as 1t did
al extra burden on the taxpayers. We had
been practically told that our services were no
longer required, and the Corporation Counsel
had kindly intimatcd that we had better re-
sign. although he gave no reason for such
course aud admitted that there was no fault to
Q-Dd Commissioner Iantry say that he
wanted architects who were in sympathy with
fact. am very sure that that Is what he said.
although cant remember his cxact words.
Odd you refuse to resign? Ayes. OF
Q.--Was any notice taken OF your letters2
A.-No.
EXTRA COST OF HoRGaN AsIArTERY. S220,9175O.
Odd Horgan n Slattery's plans differ
materially from yours? A.-Their cell plans
called for more material and were much more
sl7o.0O0 Tor the cells iiorgan / sattery's
plans called for an expenditure OF S3l0.OOO Tor
the cells and 81 900 for Strengthening the
Q,-Was the difference in expense due to the
EXCESSIVE amount Of steel called for by Horgan
Unnecessary ornamentation. There was a lot
Of UNNECESSARY art work in their plans.
proper place TO exploit decorative art did You?
A.-Certainy not. and besides that, such things
collect dust and yermin. and are entirely out
Q~isn't it a fact that the extra weight called
for In the new plans was used asan excuse for
O.-Wero new beams put in A-No. they
were strengthened with plates
beGms2 AID rather have you ask somebody
S tell s SPs course sS to
architects A,Wei ] never heard Of them then as as
ers, It was after their work at the Democratic
Club that they bIossomed cut as architects.
about set 81 plans for cells put in by a man
named Gook He said that Mr., Cook was
n the 81 ee Van nG 1n
missioner Wright, who had approved them.
He was very sure That i was these plans pre-
used, although Mr., Horgan had sworn that the
cell SlSns Ise W Tsre dTa sS y hmss
you to give me an estimate Of what you think
the interference Of Morgan 4 Slattery with
your p ans has cost the city Of New York"
II should say about S22Oel75O." replied
the witness.
DICKSON CoRRoBoRATEs wITHERs.
Walter Dickson. Mr.. Withers's partner, said
that the beams planned by his firm for the city
prison were in excess Of the legal require
ments and plenty strong enough to hold the
cells planned. There was absolutely no neces-
sity for increasing the weight for the cell
structure and the only purpose OF Horgan II
Slattery in doing that was to undcrrate the
work OF his firm and force their own in. The
witness was plainly told. he said. that he was
not wanted in the work because his firm was
not in sympathy with tho administration.
Mr. THOMAS THINKS II. 3 =. ARE POOLING THE
MAYOR.
John r. Thomas. the architect who made the
plans Tor the new Hall of Records. testified
that he was employed for this work In 1897
and that II was his intention to produce a
building that would be a monument TO the
city and u credit TO the administration that
authorized il.
O. | suppose you know that there are few
real ycr"ditahlc public buildings in New York
q. y r- sir. and our idea was to make the Hall
OF Records building of beauty as well as ono
of utility.
. When were You notified that Horgan 4
SuttCly were to lee hlleu in to intprfprp w