The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-19

Q. TITO hundred?
A. A few hundred.
| Q. A few hundred-how many hundred?
| A. Well, 1 could not state exactly.
| Q. A thousand dollars?
A. | shouldn't say so.
Q. You say it was not thousand dol
| lars?
A I say 1 shouldn't say so.
| y. DO you say not?
A. don't say l did and l don't say L
| didn't. L do not recollect. l won't say
that would have to have an opportunity
to refresh my memory. and 1t would de-
pend a great deal on what you meant by
! the candidacy of Mr.. Grant.
! @. Well toward helping the candidacy.
A. You mean of members of the Leg1s-
| lature
| O. No. How much money have you re-
| ceived from Milton ]. Green or from Mr.
| Grant? That is it. How much have you
received from Milton Green or Mr.. Grant?
Then that question will lead up to an
| other.
A. Maybe you should lead up to the
other.
other.
A; How much have I received? Does
that imply expended?
A. 1 should not say it was over thou
| sand dollars.
@. Do you say it was not over thou
sand dollars?
A. 1t is my present opinion it wasn't.
| Q. About a thousand dollars?
| A. Yes. l don't believe it was that.
O. How did you expend that money that
| you received-how did you expend it?
| A. Oh oh, hotels and travelling ex-
penses, very likely.
Q. And newspaper support, I suppose?
| A. My newspaper.
Q. Yes-the Wave.
A. No, sir
O. Of course it does not have any refer
whether the Wave got paid or not, but 1
want to find out where this money went
s Now then did 1 any of it 60 toward the
support OF the Wave-oI this $1,000.
A. Not penny.
Q. But 1t went toward your expenses
and hotel bills-traveling expenses.
Q. And what else?
A. That is all.
q. Hotel bills and travelling expenses
| penses?
A. Oh, made one trip East and a trip
down to Los Angeles two or three times.
| Q. How far east?
| A. AS far as New York.
| g. How much did it cost that trip?
| A. Really, never kept any account
Q. You think $1,000 the limit?
a. think it covered it; yes, sir.
O. Where else did you travel, you say,
A. Down to Los Angeles.
| y. Who did you see in Los Angeles
anybody? That is, member of the Leg
A. Any member that was elected this
@. Any member of the Legislature did
you see in Los Angeles?
| A. No; do not remember Of seeing any
except Bulla.
@. Did you not give Mr.. Bulla any
A. No, sir; I did not give any legislator
any money for any purpose.
c. Now then, were you present when
spend money yourself toward keeping
| Democratic candidate In the field In any
legislative district?
A T xryI,o
| some money?
A No. Or did I spend any money my
self?
O. Yes.
A No, sir.
Q. Then, how do you know that there
field?
A; Have you established the fact that
| do know it?
O. have not. 1 simply wanted to ask
! you.
A. You haven't established the fact yet
| that do know it?
| Q. Well, do you know it?
A. Well, think it might have been So
| yes, sir.
O. Well, tell the circumstances.
A. Well, as | don't know the circum-
stances it would be difficult for me to tell
| them.
Q. Tell them as far as you know.
A. Well, L don't know anything that I
| haven't done myself or seen done, and I
| haven't either done it or seen it done.
| Q. What were the circumstances as YOU
heard them? You were one of the man
| ayers?
A. 1 doubt if I am entitled to tell
! Really | think there was a case where
there was a Democrat kept in and that
! the purpose was to elect d Republican
| Legislature and to get an honest man. We
wanted friends, good, honest men in the
Legislature
@. Go on and tell the circumstances as
! you heard them about that case
A. 1 don't think L can relate it just as
l heard it.
Q. Well, as near as you can
| A. Well, L think there was candidate
somewhere. do not know just where. L
ought to be kept in the fight, and he was
Q. Where was the place as near as you
| can remember it?
A. l cannot tell where it was.
| Q. Well, it seems to me you ought to
jog your memory little bit?
A. l did not expect to be called this
afternoon. I only got served with a sub
pena this afternoon.
Q. What / am getting at, Mr. Brown, is
this: If some Republican here is under
cratic opponent in the field we want to
find out who that legislator is
A. think it is my party he would be
under obligations to. did not do it. you
know. Under any obligation to me? There
is no legislator under any obligations to
me.
q. Oh, no, do not suppose so. / do
not suppose you spent your own money.
A. Oh, mo.
Q. Wen, was that Democratic candidate
north of here?
A. ] cannot recall.
@. Now, then, you know a case, do you
not, where a Populist candidate was kept
in the field in order to split up the oppo-
siton vote, do you not?
A. No, | do not know that.
Q. Don't you remember telling me that,
Mr.. Brown, as a matter of fact three
weeks ago next Saturday?
A. Down at Mr.. Green's office?.
Q. Yes. Don't you remember telling me
! that now?
A No. l do not. might have said some
| thing to you about It, but l really do not
know of any of the facts
Q. Don't you think you talked as though
you knew the facts that day. when you
thought l was some greene from the
! country?
A. No, I did not think you were a
! greene, because l had known of you be-
fore. l had known of you during the Per-
kins campaign. l was quite familiar with
that campaign.
Q. Do you not remember telling me
| those facts, Mr.. Brown?
A. | was talking to you at quite great
| length. l remember telling you that
| thought any one who thought Mr.. Bulla
| could be elected Senator was a fit candi-
| date for the Home for the Feeble Minded
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