New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-16

the state Of New-York chamPlonship hght can az
take place in the city OF Mewrork ana gS Sta ,e i1
terfere9 At was so advertised that 4 was TO
be a championship fight. and vent there TO see
| whether II was going to be such or not. 1t was
o'~Does not Jefrries now claim TO be champion OF
the world? Al believe he does.
Q.-As the result Of that fight? A-As the result
0' Gas ma result OF that fight? A-As result
OF Una, saU result Of that contest will let you have
| your own expression there, Of course? A.-Ihere
o-No hight? Then what is he champion fora
feather contest? A-Under the law. r..
oUnder the law Then when ~ me world under
the law? A.-With the gloves there the same as
"o'-Champion under the Horton law. Is that il?
A-Whatever they call II over there.
S1,ch rba T go aoFOaa N is the Horton
champion here and champion of that club. pre-
Gle is? How do you know? Al presume
o~Then he is simply the champion of that club.
| Is that lt2 Al think he IL.
Q-Is that all he is? A.-weI don't know.
DENIES AN INsINUATION.
Q-Had Jerres Joined the Lenox Club before he
you one OF the members: don't know anything
about 1t. ,-, .so
Ienox club that you wanted to interfere with his
aghting at the Coney Island Club? A.-No. sir.
SSw9e o. let tn as see what The Journal
sST 3vey at fhS e Sa
He made no arrests then Journal rel, reporters
test. when sharkey was knocked down twice
| Devery made no arrests. Both bouts occurred ri
othy VI" d. sullivan When Devery was asked why
ne made exception in the present case, he , re-
simmons weighs l5s and Jefrries over 200 And
further We notice that Mr. Ss Sbt betwee on
! Fitzsmmons and Jeffres. Mr.. Devery IN more
blows NAV be struck. But Chief Devery knows pr-
vately that prize-hghts have gone on almost every
| them and his men more OF them He is also aware
that certain politician has monopoly mop 10 o. ,o one
| tcian failed 10 get hold OF this particular big
| fight II Devery stops this fight, AFTER letting tne
! politician. II would not look very we'll for Deyery
and incidentally would be necessary tor nm no 10
tician may have arranged TO secure the prohts.
TSS ,be h sr tse rhs ANo yS SIR oO
Q-You have not interfered with others in New
and If you :nterfered with that you would have to
| interfere with the others in New-York Isn't that
Dwell, now as understand 1t. the heid d, IS
wide open for similar contests TO the JeHrlesf In
| in athletic club buildings? Ayes, under similar
circumstances. the way that fight was carried on.
WIDE OPEN TO ALL COMERs.
o-champLons can light t gu. Just as they did did
| the Jeffres- Fitzsimmons fight? A-As long as they
gin any athletic club in the city OF New-York
! In any borough? A.-As long as they comply with
Q%As long as they do as Fi,zsmmons and JEFF
res did in that fight? A--Complied with the law 81.
! Of :hey do what Jeffries and Fitzsmmons did
in that fight they may do the same anywhere In
Q.CAnd $1,000 can be taken in for admission
fees or 10000 as far as you care? A.-rhe men,
@Yoq don't angling s62q it? ATNG DON
QAnd The decision S 6d the bsi gnes IL To
At might II found out the law was being V'o-
Q.-Now, let us quote further from The Jour
nal: Chief Devery said: ! want you 10 , unioet
no politicians. connected with my action in regard
10 the fight l made that statement last night or
myysef and viii Judge whether the blows are too
| hard II Fitzsmmons knocks down Jerries. or
Se TFS S no. Sow did Knock down z
simmons? A.-Well, that depends Ala
JeHries knock down Fltzsimmons! A.-F1tzsim-
mons certainly went down ;, couple couple. Of mss he
went down without being struck go -, ,.,,.
QIoh daughins( F ha; d fe a9yn xtg
q@ws n addition that couple R.S Of ,t tines e.
fell down without being struck think e., OF * II,
You after he fell down Genera laughter)
Qoh he was go S b esOs Ss after 70 he
| down? A.-On a straight blow. yes
DANGERS OF SIDE STEPPING.
Dwell now in addition to this couple Of times
when Fitzsimfnons fell down wasn't ne knoeke e.,
down by Jees n AWs ga in tap d6s m anS h e
might 90 down Unexpectedly.
asking @Ha met dd dd G fn G
blow knocked him down or not bav. knocked
him dOwD 9e Vok al ooked as housh it might have
Q-Wel that is what We call prima facie
| case. in law, isn't IT? A-You are lawyer l
Q"i am asking you an officer Of the law as as
and arrest people when he thinks they have
committed crime. when a thing looks as though Il
cas s' isn't R 's it? AHe did not go down any slug
ging or any breakaway or ANYTHING else lie
might have went down on straight dow.
Q.-You say It looked as though-- Ale might t
have wen, down on straight blow but not from
Q.-Now. Why didn't you vindicate your previous
SIC po AND your Sonr 4r1 Mr. JEFF
fries and putting your proof before the court and
the court decide upon the PT94f Sse mS ne he
sonai opinion but ofhcially know that the law
Oft was your personal opinion that he knocked
him down but offiealyIy .s you knew that the law
Q-Well' ii it was your personal opinion that he
knocked him down. why, didn't you take hin him be-
sonal opinon? A.-Because they were working un-
der law . ,.,,. ,o-.o,a, o,,r,or or YOUR official
opinion when. you said you would take him to the
Lookup? A was my 6a opinion oDnon then sen DID
you? A-Well. official; am always official. but
have only TO throw damper on me confess it AZ Az
IT. But when saw IT was to take place; ! went
to that the law was not violated which II was
Mt Moss-Now Mt. Devery-
The W,tness-I have a right 10 my opinion. the
same as you or anybody else. whether official or
otherwise Now, tell you personally that was
my opinion and that I wanted 10 throw damper
on that fight and wanted the public 10 come with
me and stop II.
Mr. Moss-Mr Devery-
REFUSES TO BE SHUT OFF.
The WItness-Now you have got this legislative
committee here. and they have got the remedy TO
stop it.
Mr. Moss-Wait a moment.
The Witness-By passing the law over again. II
was a Republican Legislator that passed that
bill and a Republican Governor signed 1t.
Mr. Moss-Now. stop.
The Chairman-Mr. Devery, we want 10 get along
properly. go
The Witness-He is going right ahead with his
Questions I want 20 the question fully,
and he seems 10 not want 10 do II, all the time.
The Chairman-That must be stricken from the
record. -,