New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-19


d 6utpo You sometimes read 1.-The Herald"7 A
are s.s od the snd OF tSS Mr.
o~And what have you done to ferre, OUT tne
nnas or to punish the people who are publishing
,Sems What have you done? A.-oh, have tried
10 caS ea, sS" Who? A"why some of those people
th 9aL 1SI have you done? A-weu. have sent
'e SeIYoa mean to say you have answered per-
sU osmoh. you have A-Yes: sir; yes have
9-Writns the letters yourself or debating them?
Mot debating them: writing them myself
n Since YOU have been Commissioner! Ayes,
and before.
HIS PRIVATE DETECTIVE WORK.
y mid Won get answers? Al don't think did.
7 think they got on TO me.
o-And you even did this before you were Com
missioner? Ayes
were Commissioner? Al wanted to see what this
business was ,,ox. ,,o,, ,,sra Cam
Ss. MDid3t E oON ss' answers 0e'0'S you "'''
He o~Sever got answers Al don't know don't
got Genuine hSS &c
you Ni domt know that they are genuine Every
INNS ySS npsred U Of Es paper tse'
Nc SE Sd you really mean to make an nsinuSton
a asainss tre here BY this testimony: No
"oIDo YOU mean to insiruate that gIeass pa i
IKE nee and indecency. and you are doing nothing
N stop S, It? A-No; don't insinuate any such
'nonswhat do YOU then by taking ,n aS0 bout
the PEI dnne and another witness has done? A.
SHecanse YOU had reference 10 II before. .,,-o
40 read the newspaper and the testimony
,1s, statement about the personal column ,d IN
The Herald? Ayes. was because because 'ha' was
had
'Ss thnk And you TCgld toI never o ssye
thought nni Mr. ASs that yIs not nS'p
oI ask YOU did notice an article lss IN Mc The
HsTs Out, Of MssSS STU ' eSe Pcs Has Dis
S0n,S he NAV sS RS Chief
opo Tes sheud p Ss interview with Presi
dent York Of the Police Board IN P0Ce aom
TTss4ssI M HSSS sV Tried sS % sSP
esPsPTS rs or T TSey The %o2 G@' HaRs
captan r SsSuT Hold '9 Violations Of
me Law in Check on sgndayiiI pT you Al don't
articles like that IN abHn, articles in 'The Her
a afIs''0e' ''' w
plot AGAINST MCULLAGH.
o-1.nt II a fact. Mr.. Abel that 1t was pun
ushed in the newspapers. and came 10 su". ~,
,ion that plan had been devised 10 io'ce ~,
McCunagh out because he was h'eiie!l" .e-,onts
gambling? Al might have seen such statement. .
g soroe rewspapers but that didn't prove the iao''
OF course not. but it was circumstance ~.
curing close 10 the time when you entered irIo
the troubled Sa'e Wa, Rre y months
DO you ever read The Press A'-ie''
rfad he r dc voT remember reading an article
,bSt was published in The Press as to polSce
BOG HeHShc lie points out how he has offended
gamblers and criminals by doing ms sr duI Viii de-
mand reasons? Do you remember any such '"'"s
as that? A.-WhaIf ., an article published in "The
pTess@ aHh paper called The Press" Al don't
remember that particular arice articles similar to
. thst2 Ayes: I have faint recollection OF reau-
ing SON yo not TIRE remember that the newspapers
Mr McCulagh published oyer his own persected
SeeSnse he had nerfered with the gamblers that
he was being threatened with removal; thar u ne
w you'd 0 oU f Sose who dd it would have take
the conseQpspces' DO yb you rsf March, ?nS"S
'" oSEThat was in May. Al read something , or
that sort. I read other things about Mccuhash'
toe @pd you ever know ANYTHING nsa,nss cRlsf
McCuragh's character or ponce ao''i'S
o-Yes. A.-No: ,,ns ,n.. VOL, ar. willing to
take the Responsibility Of stating now? Al can
only tell to what know or him sinG Itn hi nave
been IN No the FaGnr To F Il %TH HIM %
QYou never had any reason 10 cOphn n ar,
you9 Al wasn't In a position 10 complain par
uC oMpid you find any fault with him. or have
0C 0% any time? A-You before or since?
Mich about his transactions in the Police Depart
ment. any more than got from public sources
o-And you have nothing definite to state against st
him or t for h knS% ali fP
article W0Td s of MsS e ninth Rs e eS5
sp,racy TO Gust Chief McCulagh and APRON,
h and 9m ona Tammany commssioners
decided shall be placed at the head OF me ponce Nc.
nesses before the Lexow Committee swore TO- pay
ments TO him for protection or money wne eo ne
stated stat n and Is now under charges on the other
side Of the page Splendid record OF the o man
10 remove from the head Of police He Is no man
man and knows politics in his devotion 10 GUY
to evil-doers and offered no ,protection to law,
breakers No charges Of any kind weIe ever s apce
a: that? In The World? -. so .,o, 40
It wouldn't M make any difference il read It,
DO you remember that in that article the
Ss9S a. BACK 9I tns out Of the
records and reproduced in black type exactly wnat
don't r nSn reading that article and If don't
remember reading the article don't remember
o"po You remember reading any article in
the f hm !"
FOR word? Al think | remember something or
that kind. The courts upset all that
REVERSAL THROUGH A TRICK.
o-My dear sir don't you remember that the
reason that the court upset the removal OF Mr.
Devery by Commissioners Martin, Sheehan, ct al
the reason they reversed that was because he
claimed TO be sick when he tried and was
tried in his absence? Don't you remember that IN
that case he did not even deny the charges but
that the case was reversed because in the 5udg-
ment Of the court above he had not been given an
opportunity TO put in a proper defence? Don't
you remember that? Al don't quite remember
all the facts. 1t enough for me to know tnat
the Court had reversed It. | stand by the courts
Q-Wasnt II important for you to know whether
In the proceedings which had been reversed, ne
had ever denied the accusations? A.-Not so 1ar
as the proceedings of the court were concerned
Gas technical matter. Of course not; but as
moral matter about a man that was 10 De ele.
ed u H. Id ~ 10 whole force. WASH