New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-16

fighters? A-Rumor had it that there was
don't on know know nothing about IT. -,
Al done nothing.
SAYS 1T WAS NO FIGHT
Q-Isn't 1t a matter Of some consequence to
Know whether or not the principals In a hght have
financial interest in it7 At was glove con-
9.It was glove contest. but IT is an imRorte.n.
money or not? (No answer
Q-You heard a rumor that there was money; in
other words, IL was prize contest What did you
90 TO md out whether that was true or not? Al
knowledge in the community that a very large sum
of money thousands of dollars. was divided be
tween the two contestants In the Jeffries and ftZ
simmons %n,, night? . Al could not tel you that
Only from papers and rurnors.
Odd you know that very much betting was
5efrres and Fi}asmmonss Al did not know Of
DID you hear about It? Al did not only
from the same thing-from payers and rumors
Q1Nows rumor is an important circumstance fo1
police official TO consider, isn't it-general rumor?
Q-At what times is it important? A5weu
lating the law in any way
outside the law and violate the law. isn't ii right
10 look up matters OF rumor? A.-Not when they
QNHo W." can y you tell whether people. who have
not yet acted. are working under the law a.
have clubs: they are clubs: they all licensed
Q-But the fighters were not licensed? A-The
Q-The fighters are not licensed? A.-No. GER
q QHNo And isn't it always temptation when
TWO strong get up against one another and
face to face for them 70 strike out and hit harder
temptation? speak to you as strong man A
Q~And when there are rumors current that
there is an admission price and thai there Is a
divided between the contestants. and that thou
ants do you not think those rumors sufficient in
VeStieatP2 A.-TheX their
NO ONE COMPLAINED.
Q-But don't you consider those rumors sum
touching matters of that kind
Q-You had no complaints and don't you invest-
gate anything unless you get complaint? A
Touching matters OF that kind.
Q-You had no complaints touching matters OF
that kind II you had a complaint would you nave
looked into the rumor' if you had complaint!
Odd you not find the complaints upon the
pages OF the newspapers? Wasn't II stated broad
cast upon the newspapers. news columns and edi-
torial columns that vast sums Of money were
being wagered were being spent IN buying tickets
and were 10 be divided between the contestants
didn't you see those statemnts? A.-Rumor had II
that way.
were there not? Al think there We're ,,.
Odd you not consider that sufficient complaint
Q-You ala not? A.-These wagers were made
within the club and among the members o,,
bers ~ the club. were they? Al couldn't say
Odd you take any means to find out whether
Odd you understand that Jeffries and Fitzsm-
mons we're there TO contest simply young men
Of the club that developing their muscle In
the way the law allowed? Al presume they were
Q-You think that they were young members OF
the club developing themselves? A.-That Is right
Q.-Or did you consider that they were expert
boxers or fighters. the case may be, who were
brought there TO make exhibition before the
club? A.-That might be too
Q.-They might have been experts brought there
exhibit 10 the club, might have been young
men belonging TO the club simply trying 10 develop
their muscle; that might have been? A.-That
might have been.
Or they might have been brought there
perts in order 10 bring large sum Of money into
the club treasury. mghtn't they A.-That might
have been.
Q.-AH those things might have been? A.-Yes
Q.-And whether they were or not. you do not, at
this day know anything about It. do you? A
They were working under law. They are within
their own club; they licensed for that purpose.
Q.-Who are? A-They are
Q.-Jeffries and Fitzsimmons? Ayes sir ! pre-
sumo they are, never made an investigation OF 1t.
Odd you make an Investigation? Al did not.
OILS It not your business TO know? Al don't
think IL IS
Q.-But you said the you went personally
TO these places because II a matter of
magnitude. Now, any matter Of magnitude. Is II
your business to md out? A.-That is the
reason went there, 20 see that the law was not
violated.