The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-26

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believed he would vote for him tina
day? believe he said something g
| that kind; my recollection is that Nj
McCune said that in my hearing.
MOSES THATCHER'S TESTIMONY
Mr.. Moses Thatcher. called an
sworn. Examined by Mr. Thurman:
Where do you reside? AT 1O1 Yves
North Temple street, this city.
| Were you at Mr.. McCune's headquar
tiers on Saturday last in the forenoon
Yes, sir.
State if you were there at the tim
Mr.. McCune made some announcement
to those present that he had beel
called to the telephone by Mr.. Law?
was there in the room about 10 o'clock
What, if anything. was said by hin
and those present about that? AS
remember, Mr.. McCune said to me tina
he had just received a telephone mes
sage from Representative Law to NEE
him, and asked me what l thought o
it. / said that ] was not personally
acquainted with Representative Law
but that he had already voted for {
Democrat, and possibly might vote fol
a Democrat that day.
State whether you suggested or not
the propriety OF meeting, or gave any
suggestion? 1 gave no further sug-
gestion than would be implied from
what'I said.
Was anyone else present besides you
and Mr.. McCune? There might havt
been others present; there may have
been others; but what was said 1 can
not say.
Do you remember whether Abel John
Evans was present? Abel John Evans
passed into the room while was there,
and may have been near; cannot say.
Did you see Mr.. McCune when he
went out? l did not.
Do you remember whether he left
your presence Immediately after that
My remembrance is that L left his.
Mr.. Thatcher l will ask you if you
know from personal interviews or
knowledge, whether any votes were
coming to Mr. McCune on Saturday, or
voters who had not voted for him be-
fore? 1 certainly had that understand
ing; yes. sir.
How many did you know of your
self? Two. at least.
l will ask you if you know whether
Mr.. McCune also knew the fact? He
must have known the fact. because he
heard the conversation that would lead
to it.
Cross by Mr.. Evans:
You were present, then, when Mr..
McCune said he had received a mes
sage from Law? Yes, sir.
And asked your advice about it? He
simply stated that, and asked me what
thought.
You took it as asking advice? Yes.
sir: undoubtedly.
From what he said did you infer that
he had had some previous talk with
Mr.. Law? No, sir; did not infer any
thing of the sort.
You at once entered into conversation
which indicated that with a talk be-
he
the question of Laws vote
Tor McCune? There was nothing indi-
Gated, except in his statement to me
hat he had received a telephone mes
sage? 1t was bare fact, that he had
received a telephone message? He so
said.
And you, upon that. said he may vote
or you, because he has already voted
or Democrats? 1 stated what L said.
TALKED OF LAWS VOTE.
That is what 1 am asking you, to see
f 1 understand it. Then, uoon the
)are fact of mis- stating to you that
'Ir. Law had telephoned him, you COM
nenced talking about Mr.. Laws vote?
les. sir.
What did Mr.. McCune say to you
which indicated that Mr.. Law wanted
0 see him on that subject? Nothing.
NOlnlHS al all NO, SIT.
Were you there afterwards when Mr..
IcCune returned? From where?
Well, he went away, didn't he? He
nay have done, but 1 left him; 1 WAS
lot in his presence.
Did you return that morning? Not
ntil after the session. 1 was not in
is presence certainly over one min /
tie. and that was about the time he
eceived this message, and came right /
0 this building.
You didn't see him until after these (
harges were made? l did not. I came I
traight from his office to this build /
ng.
You do not know. then. of course.
neither he went or when he returned? /
10, sir.
Who were these two members that !
GU have personal knowledge of who /
'ere going to vote for Mr.. McCune that /
ay? 1 feel as if I was in q rather Pc
uliar position on that, but l suppose it /
necessary for me to tell
1t has been told, Mr.. Thatcher. 1 do
OF think there will be anything oar
culariy embarrassing? ! may as well
tate the circumstances connected with
If it is embarrassing. I will not press
? Well, the interview happened in
~ house.
Interview with whom? With Sena-
II Rideout, Representative Stewart
nd Mr.. McCune.
How did you come to make that
ieeting? A messenger or friend of
line, came to me between 6 and I
clock on Friday evening, and said
lat he had been sent 10 request a !
eeting at my house OF the parties
AIMED.
Who was that messenger? I. D.
,aines.
Lives in Cache county? I think his
ONE is N Ogden.
He was the former superintendent of
lie state reform school at Ogden? The
sme.
He has been actively engaged in be-
ah of Mr.. McCune in this campaign?
do not know to what extent he has
cen engaged.
You know he has been engaged in
is interest, don't you. from cnnve.sa-
ons -ou have had with him? WHAT
me of night was it when this message l.
tme? If my memory serves me. it
as between 6 and I, nearer than 6,
the evening.
Did these three gentlemen meet
lere? They We're there when 1 came
)wn.
At what time? The appointment was
ade at or 1:SG, / am not positive
hich.
Who made the appointment? This
entleman said he was sent there by
anator Rideout to make such a re-
lest.
That is Mr.. Haines? At that time
ese gentlemen were in your home?
ertainly.
What time was it. then that you re-
lived that message appointing the ,
Getting? l have stated between
Id {.
What time did you meet them? Well,
should judge it was some minutes af- l
+ Z, but l cannot say; probably near
7:30