The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-08-08

DreYtuS-He SAID he wanted no Jews Oh
Jouaust-How do you know what he
said?
Dreyfus-Through conversations
Jouaust-You attributed this bad note
to your religion?
Dreyfus-Yes.
Jouaust-In 1892 you went to Mulhaus.
What did you do there?
Dreyfus-I went there three times by
way of Basic. without passport, Once l
arrived at my house ! never went vent out
Dreyfus-Yes, possibly.
Jouaust-Did you follow the German
maneuvers?
Jouaust-Did you converse with German
officers?
Dreyfus-I deny it absolutely.
Jouaust-What was your object in going
to Alsace?
Dreyfus-For instruction.
Jouaust-You studied transports?
Drey fus-Yes.
Jouaust-You wrote certain information
respecting the manufacture of the Robin
shell. You said this information was re-
Quested by professor of the military
school. This was false. | am told you
asked officers indiscreet questions.
Dreyfus-It is not true.
Jouaust-Did you go to Brussels in 1891?
Jouaust-A witness afirms you went.
Dreyfus-It is false
woman?
Dreyfus-Yes
JOuauSt-What nationality?
Dreyius-AuStrian.
Jouaust-How could you have such rela-
tions, you an officer Of the general stan?
pIreyfus-IJ committed no indise l,e ion.
You had special resources. Passing
through the Champs Elysee in 1891 YOU
remarked: Here lives certain lady.
Suppose we call on her. l have lost heavy
sums at her house
Dreyfus-1It is false I have never
gambled. Never. never!
T1yFo 7yS+ ly,op cot al Il lOa-1
de Clam?
q Dreyfus-NO.
Jouagst-Dtd you know Major Henry?
Jouaust-You have no motive for ami
mostly against them?
Jouaust-And Colonel Picquart?
Dreyfus-I don't know him.
Jouaust-And Lieutenant Colonel Ester
hazy?
Dreyfus-I don't know him.
Jouaust-You never wrote him?
Dreyfus-No.
Jouaust-Colonel du Patty de Clam says
that your writing at his dctation was less
firm when he made you undergo a trial on
the day of your arrest
Dreyfus-My writing has not much
changed.
Here a non-commissioned officer. who
was standing in front of Major Carriere,
crossed the platform and handed Dreyfus
his writing on the day of his arrest.
Dreyfus replied by insisting that there
was nothing to show. any perceptible
CHdIlSS III MS handwriting.
Colonel Jouaust then spoke of the inter-
view with Du Patty de Clam. and Drey-
fus replied. II never confessed anything
to Du Patty de Clam"
Here occurred one of the most dramatic
scenes in the proceeding. Dreyfus. tre-
mendously excited, swayed to and fro for
moment, and then all his pent-up emo
ton and Indignation burst forth, and in
piping voice, heard throughout the court
room and even by those standing on the
outside, said; 1T is iniquitous to con-
denim an innocent man. never contested
anything-never!'
Dreyf1s as he uttered these words
raised his white-gloved right hand and
held it aloft If appealing to heaven to
vindicate him.
Colonel Jouaust then said; AT, the
Patty de Clam went to see you in the
prison. What passed between you?
D3reyfusnHe asked e me if / had not given
tain other Information. I replied NO"
and added that 1t was ubiquitous to CON
denim an innocent man. I also asked him
to beg the Minister of war to seek full
light to the affair.
Jouaust-Did you not say to him, refer
ring to a foreign military attache, that
you would cut his throat with a poignard?
Dreyfus-No. l asked Du Patty de Clam
to have the investigation continued.
said: ANY Government which has means
of Investigating can have the foreign mil
itary attaches questioned. If / were in its
condemned I would force them to speak
even if | had to hold dagger to their
throats.
Colonel Jouaust then, said: Coming to
the day of your degradation. what passed
between you and Captain LIE Brun Re
nault? What did you tell him.?
Dreyfus-Nothlng. 1t was really sort
of broken monologue on my part. | felt
that everybody knew of the crime with
which was, charged, and ! wished to say
make clear that the criminal was not he
whom they had before their eyes, and
in fhe face OF tba neOnIa -
Jouaust-Did YOU not say: "The Minis
ter knows I handed over documents?
Dreyfus-No; il / spoke Of a Minister
who knew l was innocent. I referred to
conversation 1 had previously had with
JouaustIDid you say: IF I handed
over documents it was to have more i'm
p9 TtaI!t,, one So in return?
Joua i is asked: HAD You relations with
a lady living in the Rue Bizet?'
Dreyfus replied; Il had no intimate re-
Jouaust-I do not mean from a moral
point Of view but from a military, point of
ing ing" why iS did n' You visit herf 'eu q spy
Dreyfus-I, only learned that at my trial
in 1894. Major Gondrion introduced me to
her and as Gondrion belonged to the in
quiry bureau he ought to have known if
she was suspected.
'Jouaust-Did you say "In three years
they will recognize my innocence7" Why
did you say three years?''
Dreyfus-I asked for all means of in
vestfgation. They were refused me. 1 was
justified that at the end of two or three
years my innocence would come to light.
Jouaust-Why three years?
observation-disclosures a certain time is ne
cessary to obtain light.
Jouaust-Had you an arriere pensee
(afterthoughD?
Dreyfus-No.
The examination Of the prisoner was
ended with a few minor questions and the
court decided to sit behind closed doors
by five votes to two.
During the trial Dreyfus' voice was
harsh, nasal and no wise sympathetic He
spoke very low at first and later as he
grew more used to his surroundings he
spoke louder, more confidently and more
distinctly. The prisoner responded with
military precision to the first questions
Of the Judge, who opened with an abrupt
order to stand up. Dreyfus thereupon
stood and Colonel Jouaost continued:
Your name?"
alfred Dreyfus."
'Your age?"
"Thirty-nine years"
your profession?"
Captain of artillery"
Where were you born?"
"Mulhouse"
Colonel Jouaust treated Dreyfus
brusquely, almost brutally. and ii was
matter of satisfaction the friends nj tbe