Arizona republican. [volume] (Phoenix, Ariz.) 1890-1930, 1899-10-23
Orthodox Address ArOuSeS Feel
ing at Ministers Meeting.
METHODISTS In A FURRY
Rev. DR.. J. D Bush, of New nwxIco,
announced In a New York Meet
ing she lmpOI lance of the
Office of fhe Holy Spirit In the
Preparation of Ministers Causing
Healed Debate.

New York. Oct. 22-At yesterdays
meeting of the Methodist ministers
the Rev. DR.. ]. D. Bush, missionary
for the Methodist church south. labor
ing in New Mexico. made the address
of the morning, in which he emphasiz-
ed the Importance of the office of the
Holy Spirit in preparing the minister
for his life work and in helping the
minister to prepare his sermon He
said that no school of men could teach
other men how to preach. 1T is only
the Holy Spirit he declared, through
the grace of God, that can teach men
how to preach Tire address was
very orthodox and evangelical. a plea
for Methodism and Methodist forms of
former days.
The Rev. P. NJ. Walters, pastor of
Grace church. took exception to tbs,
New Mexican's remarks He also
criticized ministers for pessimism.
Conditions of today. he said. require
men of education in order to meet
questions constantly coming up in
reference to bible doctrines. This ref
erence to bible doctrines aroused in
terest in q twinkling, and ministers
who had been uttering ''amens'' to the
New Mexico missionary's exhortations
became silent. Prof. Perritz of Syra-
cuse university urged more liberal
scholarship and disapproved the trend
of the discussion. At this point the
Rev w. H. Lawrence, who has charge
of the programme of speakers, jumped
to his feet and shouted:
Mr.. moderator, these discussions
are going on just as they have been.
We don't propose to have any destrue--
tive teaching here. We have had too
much of it in the past
Question" called out the Rev. DR..
s. Parlzes Cadman
4 have been misreoresented in a
way that I consider an insult to nv
and 1 want to explain my
position" said Rev. Mr. Walters.
Take it to the Lord in prayer
shouted Mr.. Lawrence.
Thank you" responded Mr. Wat
ters, II will take the suggestion OF
the brother. My position is just this:
To raise people up to a high standard
by encouragement, not by pessimism
A dozen men tried to speak, but the
Rev. DR.. Cadman secured the floor,
and going to the platform, said:
There is no doubt that there are diff
ferences of theological opinion here.
Some attitudes are not beneficial to
he advancement of the cause all of
is have at heart. There is revolt ana
here is neglect. 1t is Herbert Spen-
.er who says that life corresponds 20
and we must conduct
our work accordingly. Some men
speak who are not entitled to speak.
rhe church has got TO face social
problems. We have need to preserve
he religious life. The intellectual
ide of the preacher is of vast i'm
1t is foolish TO tear things
o pieces"
DR.. Cadman was follow ed by the
rev. c. S. Kemble, who said that il
his series of addresses on the old
aith was a plea for emotionalism he
pposed it. '.Emotionalism is not sue
nowadays. Look at the Sal
alton Army and its emotional meth
ds here and elsewhere. Is it sue
eeding?"
Mr.. Lawrence. of the programme
ommittee, offered resolution thank
lg the Rev. Drs. Wilton Merle Smith
nd John Balcom Shaw, Presbyter-
ans, who spoke at the committees
lvitation two weeks ago. The reso-
ltion included a communication to
lie newspapers which expressed re-
ret that the Rev. DR.. Shaw had been
lisquoted when he said ministers, or
ANY of them, led double lives and
ere often a miserable lot generally.
The moment the resolution and the
-iticism of the newspaper report OF
T. Shaw's remarks were concluded,
lie Rev. DR.. 4. B. Sanford, assistant
litor of the Methodist Review. said:
[ am not in favor of the motion.
)nt believe in defending and thank
g a man who speaks uniting words,
rem if invited TO speak to us here,
Id even if he does come from another
At this there was a stir throughout
lie room. Several shouted that DR..
law had been misquoted. while half
dozen others managed to get IN
atements to the effect that they were
'esent and heard the Presbyterian
y what the newspapers had re-
'rted.
Mr.. Lawrence insisted that some
tion be taken on the resolution, but
ere was opposition and the mod
ator declared the meeting adjourned,
the time had expired.