The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01
On the way up there did you and he
have a talk? Yes. sir.

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have a talk? Yes. sir.
/ POWERS WAS ANGRY.
| About these charges? L mentioned
the matter to him, .and that his name
was amongst others in the paper in
connection with the charges: that is;
| that had noticed his name. He SAID
this: II do not know what they want
me for at all, unless it could be in con-
nection With that He said he had no
charges to make. He said: Il have no
! knowledge and no charges whatever
| The only thing it could possibly be
would be in connection with that con-
versation 1 had with Dunbar" l VIII
| go back and say he had previously told
me this. Some time after l had talked
with Mr.. Dunbar about this matter,
some party told me, 1 don't recoliect
who, says to me, Judge Powers is ex-
| tremely angry at you 1 said, why
sop He says you have some connec-
ton with getting Representative Lap
ish's invention mixed UP with Dunbar
| at McCuneis headquarters; something
of that kind. 1 Immediately went to
| Mr.. Lapish, and he said he had never
made any statements of the kind. That
| Dunbar had spoken to him about II,
| and said that Dunbar had got his in
!. formation through me. That is how
Dunbar became acquainted with the
fact that he had an invention. He snid,
II never referred to You in any disre-
| spectful way az ALL" He said Dunbar
| spoke to him about. it in a way, he
said, he didn't say anything special,
but says I thought his meaning was
not quiet clear: that he spoke probably
| in way that had two meanings or had
an ambiguous manner. / didn't like IT,
| but could not take any exception to it.
Did he say whether or no from what.
was said Dunbar meant nothing? He
said about what it was; something like
this: Mr.. Lapish, II understand you
have an invention or some idea to pat
ent. Well, now, Mr.. McCune is rail-
| road man, Mr.. Lapish," and says if
Mr.. McCune is elected United States
senator he will further your interests
very materially in securing your pat
ent; he is a man of push, and would
interest himself in the interests of any
! body in securing and forwarding the
application, as L understand, or the
procedure.
On Tuesday, what did he say about
the conversation with Mr.. Dunbar?
Well, he said there was nothing in the
conversation with Dunbar, only l may
have put different construction on it
from what Mr. Dunbar mad in mind.
l am of the opinion that Mr.. Larsen
was walking with us when it was said.
but there was no other gentleman, and
he said something, that there was moth
ing at all; I have nothing to say, but
Mr.. Dunbar might not have intended it
at all the way construed it; and gave
me to understand that he had nothing
to say against anybody, at the same
time did say one time, I don't know
whether then or not, he thought a great
deal of Mr. McCune. believed he was
a straightforward, honorable man. but
didn't like the way Mr.. Dunbar spoke.
That is the substance of it.
Cross-eXamination:
Did you report to Mr.. Dunbar what
Mr.. Lapish said? l did one time; l
guess it was possibly after what 1 had
heard Judge Powers had said about my
connection with it. l told Mr.. Dunbar,
Mr.. Lapish is taking some exception to
what You said to him concerning this
idea, this patent"
Did you, in that connection, ask Mr..
Dunbar what he had said to Mr.. La
pish? No, sir; think not; don't rec
ollect.
Would not it have been natural for
you, Mr.. Bywater, to inquire of Dun
bar what he had said to Mr.. Lapish
after you had heard that report? 1t
might have been; if it was, probably
1 did so, but 1 don't recollect that
did.
Do you know Mr.. Greenwood? Ben
jamin Greenwood? I have met, 1 be-
lieve, three Greenwoods, but don't know
which is which.
The one who is a friend of Mr. La
pish? I have never met a Greenwood
with Lapish. 1 don't know whether
either of them is a friend of his.
What was it that Mr.. Dunbar said
to you about the improperly of hay-
ing the master mechanic come UP
there? 1 never suggested to Mr.. Dun
bar to have the master mechanic go
up there at ALL
How did you come to suggest, then,
the matter of patent to Mr.. Dunbar at
all? On account of going up there to
telephone, and not being connected
with them, | thought l could leave it
with Mr.. McCune and he could bring it
before the proper officials better than
could myself
Did you have any personal talk with
Mr.. McCune? Never spoke to Mr.. Nc
Cune in my life about it.
And your communication was with
Mr.. Dunbar for that purpose, of bring
ing it to the attention of Mr.. McCune?
Yes, sir.
In that conversation with Mr.. Lapish,
didn't Mr.. Lapish say to you also that
he could not have this influence of Mr..
McCune if Mr.. McCune was not elect
ed? He did not, in any way at all, say
it, nor imply it.
MI. IJdDISll ulQ IOI lGII yOu JllG NuOle
matter in detail? 1t is pretty hard
matter for me to say. What he told
me have told you, as near as 1 could
remember.
Defense rests.
COOKS CHARGE AGAINST FAIR.
Representative Cook, called by the
committee. and examined by Mr.. Stew
art:
You are a member of the house of
representatives? Yes, sir.
From what county? Rich county
You made a statement before the
joint assembly the other day about
some influence being used in favor of a
certain candidate. viii you state to
the committee what that is? The con-
versation that I had?
Yes? We were coming on the train !
from Logan, in conversation with Mr. !
Farr, talking over the prospects of the |
election, etc, as we generally did when |
we We're together. In the course of the |
conversation this matter came up, |
about being pretty near ready to vote
for Powers, and he said, You boys had /
better come and vote for McCune and
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