The Portland daily press., 1899-09-15

erai term Of the supreme Court In case
In which thers was introduced as evidence
a deposition attested before Mr.. Moss and
another as the notary public. Mr.. Moss
was examined in court as TO the anthem
tieity OF the signatures of the deponent
and the. witness, but he admitted the
document had not hesn signed in hi
presence. and that ne knew the witness
only through Identification by the princi-
pal Mr.. Jastice Van Brunt expressed the
opinion that the notaries should be criDi-
nally pro ecuted for attesting instru-
ments wishout having seen the signing
OF th m and without the knowledge OF
the sigpers' Identity which the law re-
quires.
Mr. Mes piled MIR Croker with ques-
tions as to what he knew of the Ramapo
matter, Int he did not get any informal
tion.
Mr. Mess turned to MIR. Clarke and
asked: "Do you know anything about
this matte o.
Mr.. Croker-"oh, you and Mr.. Clarke
understand each other" (Laughter.)
Dir. Croker Joined In the laughter and
the people Of this city any longer. Mr.
Moss"
MIR. Moss-"This Ramapo matter Ia not
. laugh NJ matter, MIR. Croker. and you
viii net find 1t SO before this matter is
concluutd."
John Pr otor Clarke stepped up beside
Mr.. Croker then, and Mr.. Moss question
l. tim IN 10 4ho f.rc
Mr. Clarke said;
81 am under oath, Mr.. Chairman. i
never heard of the Ramapo water scheme
by mare, association or reference until
Augusr of this year. on my vacation In
the Adirondack. l read of it in chance
oo9y Of New York newspapers "
Msy j ask him few questions ?"
ssked air. Croker. and the request WAS
gnnted MIR. Croker then asked Mr..
clarke about his work In Albany as assis-
tant corporation. counsel, and on being
answered In the same way as given in
testimony by MIR. Clarke yesterday, he
sad;
''hov many references have you go
since the first Of last year?''
81 don't know" was the reply.
"Fifteens''
eyes, / have had fifteen T"
MIR. Croker laughed.
ibid you get them from Democratic
judgesY"
eyes, .there ara no Republicans on the
bench now. believe, who can give refer
sEoes."
get any from Judge ScottP"
"Yes"
elbow is that, did you ask him for
them?"
"No. ne sent them to me-"
MIR. Croker laughed again and address,
ing Mr.. Moss, said:
"You tried to show that the Democrats
were getting all these. Now here Is
your own associate getting more than any
of them" And he laughed till he grew
red In the face.
Alter Mir. Moss had asked the witness
about a number !. of corporations, MIR.
Croker exclaimed:
NOW I'll answer 1t all at once. never
held any Manhattan stock and have not
any now. Not dollars worth"
fare you interested in o financial way
with Mr.. Freshman"
Eyes but that is private business"
Now" said MIR. Moss with smile,
"all pleasant things must come to an
end and must let you go. but before you
step want 10 present to you this English
newspaper clipping"
MIR. Croker waved away the clipping
and Mr.. Moss read: Among our latest
distinguished American visitors is MIR.
Richard Croker, Mayor OF New York"
"They were not SO far wrongP asked
Mr.. Moss.
"That's what you say was the reply.
snow will you tell us before you leave
the stand whether you intend to look
into this matter of Ramapo water to nnu
out whether fraud was done or intended"
querie1 Mr.. Moss,
I'm not going to tell you what I'n
do, but when am through I'll tell you.
And 1t won't be a humbug of an inves.
tigation like what you are carrying on
here"
President butcher of the Ramapo was
called.
The witness said he had been presented
with 20 shares of Ramapo stock by Mr..
Ingraham, the oompsny's counsel to en-
able him to qualify for president, but had
bought the rest of the stock he owned.
Mr.. Moss suspended the examination of
Mr.. butcher at this point and called Ed.
ward NJ. Grout, president of the borough
Of Brooklyn.
MIR. circuit said he did not know of his
knowledge of any prominent politicians
being interested in the Ramapo company.
The witness had asoertained that the
company had no Pipes laid, no reservoirs
and no machinery. Their only proper
ty consisted of some options and surveys.
At the afternoon session. Hugh Mo
Laughlin of brooklyn testified that he
had never said he was the header of the
Democracy in Kings county, but other
persons had said he was. Neither he
nor any Of his friends had seen Mir
Croker TO patch mp truce on the Ramapo
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