New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-16


Assembly OF. the Board OF Aldermen. as the case
Of departments. All those things were important,
nsy s sre ey could doc Hon tba
8.@An those things are considered by men hav-
suoh work as telegraphing or teiephonng. any
'~ o@But you know the departments have a power
over such companies don't you? Ayes sir
one man to 90 TO- whose advice was ' IN
dealing with these different departments? A
O-Probaby they thought So and they have rea-
con to think so. didn't they?
o-Dd s YOU not premise to aid them as far as
Odd you not promise your influence? A.--No
Q..Am I not asking you about private matters
o-No. more than the other matters that You u
have refused TO answer Ayes; you were asking
Out your private afrairs-what you said to a
No you have not charged me with owning any
stock in the telephone company or anything OF
o-was not the purpose of these people to organ
rae the c Of S sne
y believe that Is what they SAID
WOULD NOT HURT BELL MONOPOLY
Q-And did you say you did not agree to help
them? Al told them to go and the proper
authorities for that.
Q-what did you mean? A.-That Is all It meant.
Q-would you not give your active help TO
pora,ion containing such have mentioned.
whose purpose was TO reduce telephone rates? A
They could do 1t without my help.
Q-Would you not give them your help. such a
powerful man as you are? A.-Probably would.
Odd you not say you would? A.-No sir /
Q-Was It not because the New-York Telephone
people heard Of II and came TO you also? A.-No.
time with representatives. Of the New;York Tee-
When was it, Mr.. Croker? A--There are so many
81 viii say Il Is within FIVE years and prob
ably you can figure t down closer Al lire remem-
phones three or four years ago
Q-And the New-York Telephone Company came
O'-Do you not remember that the New-York
Telephone people found out about the starting up
o~Was not the matter mentioned TO you? Al
don't remember hearing Of III, 1t; :, ,,o N-v,.,,
Telephone Company Al decline lei eta 10 answer that
Odd you have any conversation with Mr.. Cut
Ter about these matters? Al don't Temembsr
o-who is he? A5He Is Mr.. Cutler ., -.
oEThe head Of the New-YOrk Telephone Com
Go2what did you and he talk about? Al have
0-lhis was some time ago? Al don't
nenber il. , ~ C,,,o.
at any time? A.-No. sir.
WON'T DENY BLACKMAIL CHARGE.
Q-Never? Al decline to answer that ques-
ton.
Q-You have answered IT, and then you take
your answer back? Al didn't answer
Odd you make an agreement with Mr.. Cutler
10 make payment TO you Of money? Al decline
10
Odd you make a hve-year agreement with
Mr.. Cutler for the payment 10 yM OF sum or
money each year? Al decline TO answer.
OWL you deny t2 Al decline TO answer.
OWN you deny IL? Al decline TO answer.
OWN you deny 1t affirm II? Al decline
20 answer the question.
Q.-Mr Croker. II you took money or made an
agreement take money, or have contract for
money from those telephone people. would you
consider that an honorable or a dshonorable act?
A.-Dishonorable
ODD you do it? Al decline TO answer the
question
things going on in New-York to-day, and sug-
gest that we take A recess until Monday-the wit
ness is still the stand.
The Charman-That is in accordance with our
understanding. 10 take a recess until Monday
morning at 10 O'Clock. at the Board OF Trade
Rooms. No 203 Broadway All witnesses sub
ppnaed here 10 report there without further
notice.
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