New-York tribune., 1899-06-08
INNOCENCE IN OFFICE.
ANOTHER OF PRICES TRUSTED MEN WHO
HAS RUBBER MEMORY
Iohr Gillignn sworn.


Johr Gigan sworn. .,.. No s,r
"a Ss'e special SSi duty dS" man? A.-Yes. sir.
Q.-Going about the precinct IN plain CLOTHES
QAad practically, q0inf 5nfv detective work. A
NSt kind 6f Special duty? Awe every
thing or anything / going through the pre-
QEwhat kind of things do you see going through
the precinct? A.-Cases OF drunk. 10, du,,, man
in plain clothes? A.-As a policeman; yes ,So siS,
o1hat is not what you ,a sre pTt yss IN sT pam
there 50 many people has in ,S yO1G ao out for
them-so many drunken people? A'-No' not a''o-
QAre the so difficult to discover So. T. drunken Or atep
people that man In plain clothes mas 10 80 ai'ei
po 5sy ksR out Of t5toSy the Tay1 No ANG .i Sir
S-What are You in plain clothes for? 4
Everything that see running through the pre-
''.Cl ''U.Elwhat do you see running through the pre-
ntDrnnks cineti YOU said-what else? A-Assault
cases that has to put on plain clo'neS ~
detect them? A.n1No; = ,s fact. isn't it. that
q good ma many coored women assault men on the
street. Al never heard he Of Don't II YOU know there
are lot Of them Thirtythird-st "a wno'e on the
So o'0You never heard OF that? AmN0 SIR
0.-Or any other part OF your precin0' ~
S.SHave you heard of any cases Of So SSloTHd TT
women ass va Rad any cases OF robbng
men me street? ANo ;nG You sG are perfectly Ig-
roTanf and Innocent Of all that? Ayes sir.
sLEUTHING FOR DRINKS.
,,,,.. o-o ,,oss things in your precinct that
VI, are n1S out in plain clothes to find outY A
brunks and assault cases -. oisao A
o-Drunks and assault cases "ha' eiSe' -
EEeryShhag WhaF an are those things in general A
yellow much did you pay for your detail? A
How TnsS mueh osu Al don't know what that means
S-You don't know what that means' A->''
SIT uor,man-Answer the question. ,oa. -,
TTb5 The Witness-i have answered 1t to the oeS' Oh
my aSy He says he has answered 1t to the best
OF MS Hhd9rIngnHe says he doesn't understand it.
Read the question again. :,
The Witness-I understand II. o,, mean bv saving
,,ou 40 not know what ne means a ,o,,,,o
The Witness-I don't know what II means pay ''e
ioy Mr ny {Aoman-Dd you pay any money to any per-
SON M for your detail? A.-No. sir natro,,,ns
O-Why are you not out IN uhilorHi p"'o
'r Some other policeman has to do double duty
when you withdrawn A-nVr a1roiH i,at You will
Q.-Why ~ are re you Sapi0ina aSi out o" p"''''
nave 10 ba tA is matter for the captain is it' A
Yes SiT have told US of two things you h do as
plain nd Vet YOU don't know OF any assault
ooses How many drunks did you arrest thls "eeN'
Al n didnt aTvs' H6w many did you last week7
Al don't know arrested any ,, orrast This
o.-How many assault cases did you arrest ''i'S
"eek "Sk None? n'PicS How many last week? A-None.
3-Hio1eTm NAM drGnks did you arrest this month
May? I mean through the month OF May A.
QSnd two ta'"E on 9ssau, cssCs did
you arrest during 'hs 1sai 1n makes two arrests for
plSin-cothes man through whole month Sow ,S",
WY y, are ,.eu you ySo? ny AWe you win have to ask my
captain HIS WORK Is NOT HARD.
Q-Is that all you dO' oos A-No co sIT around visit
ing SUPPOSED reputed poolrooms, ,-. u,,,,
sPeGsed S % 6see 5sga9ed Why R95dGdG%' dd you SdS
that baok AWe yGp % die fdn5 ,6inss ass yon did A
QNow you have told me What are Nsms 5se tbe suR
bRT can't name any in particular 1t Is all on rec
ord 6f t9Sre course it is all on record. but have you
NO SnGn memory? TyS' Avery poor. 49,,
Qvey poor memCTy Is sa fha list Wnn and 20 around
o,YIs that what you are put on special du'y
for for having poor memory emo xyoulS have to testify
oHd - yoT had no more memory than you have
to-day. how would you convict anyoody' A'-"AAe
Have ao-f you convicted anybody since the 1s' OF
JaSuaTg1 Tg1 ANT AMI ssS! sSq!dni hESG Say sir.
0-Can you remember one person your tTsLilnomy Tp
has helped 10 convict sIhCc t'e ''' -
9.-who? "A ! drunk dTqnk' him fined SO.
9-Aaa 9-AA SrqhR hm dned sio2 Well ma : Pretty
heavy fine for drunk. You remembered II: II y0dd you
hadn YOU sUS eop G nayf there hadn't been good
memory How does 1t happen that you . could 6Te re.
important things OF poorooms? A.-Wen what
ever it is it is all record there so, g.. ,hs
od Il know S rdcoIa it rs az there IN sn UGT
behind it? Al Soudn,5 tell bayS you oasion 1est ANo
Q-I am not asking you to name eyeryIhlas e on on
1 :oS Of and O0f 0hT oee
am asking YOU 10 name some OF those places. you you
iSe7s? FeeSer 12S to sqme my knowsdee M Rsd Are ."
Q.-Then what did you visit forT A-Io ma out
II such and such is the case
UNABLE TO PLACE HIS BETS.
o-How do you find out If such and such is the
case. now do YOU know gambling If you IT.
An a man takes money OF me for bet 1t Is
sao1nmoTBiid YOU ever bet? A-No; never could get
a1yD0n1{, OH, ,ou 70 ever make any effort? A-No sir.
0-And never saw any one else offer TO bet?
ANT AoN%hat do you do when you go to these Places
pia you ever go TO "a West Twenty-ninth-st' A
6.whai ls--1yf It did. you do when you went thereT
AWent in and looked al ar sroSno anound what. A
No "a West Twenty-nnithh i hhru,,,o A., vou 90 in,
Q.--What part OF the Duiuihe uiu you eo III
We, Ven; al Kind Of house is it, A regular
ali through the house, every room in II?
A-Eyerv room In IT, . . s,.I,. ~
Vofbing AT all? A-Smply the furniture OF
the house. .t.,-o7 A-reh,es and
O.-What kind or furntufe' "
o'@Anybody in the house7 A-ony The porter orr en-.
What Is a porter doing in a house full oi fur-
n,fnre and no people In Il? Al didn't ask MIN
Odd il occur 10 you that the people haa hearo a
,,os we're coming there. and had gone away ~hen
You entered and found only the porter theref A.
No. sir s., L,ow
S-Who owns the properly Al don't know
Odd you ever attempt to hnd out! A-No' BIZ