The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1899-02-24


that I thought the two Republican members
OF the board would be willing to do anything
he wanted. AS we parted l said: Il guess
so far as the surveyor general is concerned.
l am out of It," He replied. Not far as
I am concerned. You see what you can do
with Mr.. Rosing first" And 1t was decided
that I should see Mr.. Rosing the next morn
ing. This was on the 18th. the day ramed in
his subsequent notice when proposed to give
him my influence on the prison board for the
appointment OF surveyor general. The I'M
fairness of that charge can be determined
from the tenor of our conversations coupled
with the fact that his parting request was to
see Mr.. Rosng next morning.
The next morning I met Mr.. Rosing and,
finding he committed favor OF Mr..
M"Sier, l stepped into Mr.. Lind's Office and
- y suppose this settles it; l viii not
bother you any more" Mr.. Lind replied: Il
under such obligations to Mr.. Mosier,
through Mr. Rosing and others, that | do not
see bow l can avoid appointing him. but
have not decided yet. Should l decide dif-
ferently within two or three days I will let
you know at once" And we separated
This was on the 14th day of January, the
date Mr. Lind fixes as the time when he
charges repeated the proposition to him to
deliver the board in support of his candi-
dates in exchange for the appointment of sur
Neyor general. Not a word was said on this
subject; and Mr. Lind's parting statement
was: should l decide differently, l will let
YOU know" I DO not believe that Mr. Lind
VIII deny the parting statement of the 18th
and nth, as l have stated it; and l submit
Ii IS absolutely inconsistent with the sugges-
ton that III these interviews l had made any
proposition which had shocked his sense of
official duty.
MIR TlN-n WAS 1,TIIEpu,
The board met on the oath Mr.. Lind was
there and c5unseled with the members, in
Guiding myself and did not appear like one
who had received the shock Of an improper
proposal. His candidate for chaplain was not
elected; and on the 2Sth received a notice
Whlch has already been published together
with my reply. This notice, which was dated
Jan. =. charged that on the 18th l had made
= .lupos-ttCn 10 MIN and repeated il on the
iith. In this notice he stated as a fact that
thlS proposition was made to him and re-
peated, and followed the statement with his
declaration OF what his Judgment was in
View OF the alleged facts and closed his
notice with the suggestion that I might re-
sign or show cause before him On the fol-
lowing Monday.
filed a reply denying his right to pass
upon me matter, and especially denying that
ne could SIT as accuser and Judge, wnere he
Haq ALREADY written and served upon me his
judgment upon his finding of the facts
luok the position that that was not a hearing
within The spirit Of cur law. and suggested
lnaJ Il there was any way in which the mat
ter could be submitted to a tribunal other
than one which had already publicly and in
writing declared his pre-judgment of the
case, l would gladly submit the matter to
Such 2 tribunal.
I called upon him on the Both with nv re-
ply He was pleased to denominate this a
nearing after officially declaring in his no.
tee to me of the 2Sth his determination He
called IN Mr.. Rcsing and his stenOgrapher-
presumably the official stenographer in the
oIlce. Not being satisfied with the fairness
OF man who would decide case and then
propose hearing on it before himself | in
SISTED upon having a friend present and
called IN Mr.. Burke, who happened TO be in the
capitol. The first thing Mr. Lind said was:
II you wish to resign, you may do so as
no person knows anything about this matter
except myself, Mr.. ROsing and Miss Baker
the stenographer." CThis surprised me for
can prove that he had talked with two SEN
atorS ABOUT the matter before that date and
had subsequently, claimed to various persons
that he had the written opinion of the at
torney general before proceeding in the mat
teri l replied: 4 will not resign | never
came TO see you except when asked to do
so by you, and you have accused me of saw
ing what l never said, and you don't believe
II. He said: Hold on; I will not stand
that kind of talk. You don't know what |
believe AS he declined to take issue on the
honesty OF TIE accusation, but preferred TO
take issue on what he believed, he had me at
disadvantage; for of course l could not
know what he believed, but did know that his
accusation was false; and, replying to his
statement that l did not know what he be-
.teFld, SiiG. l guess i viii nave to take
II back, because of course don't know what
you believe"
MR. ROSING CALLED IN.
We then proceeded. MIR. Lind said: u do
not say that those were the exact words you
used. but they were words to that effect. -
l asked him to repeat it, but he said he could
not. but would ask Mr. Rosing to- Note the
loea OF asking Mr.. Rosing to detail CONVEX
sAtlon between Mr.. Lind and myself that, ac-
C3fdlng TO Mr.. Lind'S written charge took
pace on Jan. IS and was repeated on the
13th' when MI Rosing was not present on
either OF the occasions. The only CONVEX
saton between Mr.. Lind and myself st which
Mr.. Roslng was present. being on the 11th
when W had Mr.. VOTERS resignation under
cnsidsTation.) l then detailed the conversa-
tons and Mr.. Lind did not contradict them:
and when it came to the place where he called
Mr. ROsing in at the time w had Mr.
VOTERS resignation under consideration.
which occurred on Jan. II, he asked Mr.
Rosing to say what further I said in that
conversation. Mr.. ROsing said that | said:
II you 90 net drive me from you | will work
with YOU if you do, I cannot" I said: L
40 not know whether l said that or not and
d. Lot care, as that would be q fact without
stating. But what had that to do with sur
Neyor general? Had l mentioned surveyor
general IN your presence at that meeting ?''
MT RCsing said No" Mr.. Lind then spoke
up and said to Mr.. Rosing Didn't YOU sun
POSE that referred to the surveyor general?''
Mr.. ROsing replied Yes F." | said .'You had
no right to suppose anything of the kind
Dir. Lind then said, I viii send in the ap-
polntment of your successor tomorrow to the
senate and you can go there and oppose it. -
! offered to leave the matter to a comrnittea
or anyone else, and concluded the interview
by saying: AS you have accused me false
~, and am satisfied that you know 1 have
been so accused, and you propose to give me
no show TO have a hearing before anybody
but yourself, l do not see that there Is any-
thlhg can do. l no not consider snis a
nearing in any respect" And this ended
what he afterwards denominated a hearing
Accompanying my reply to his notes of
Jan Is, l filed an affidavit denying ever hav
ing made any proposition to him to control
removals and appointments on the nrison
board Il ne would appoint me surveyor gem
eral- On the same day l received a notice
signed by Mr.. Lind, that, pursuant TO his frst
notice and the hearing" as he denominated
it, he had removed me from the prison hoard
The next day I called at the governors Of
flee and asked for a transcript of the nro
ceedings on what he had denominated "a
hearing in his letter of the 2Sth THE ser
rotary, after comforting with the governor
stated that if l desired anything the request
should be in writing. | then made n written
request for transcript and received com
munication IS follows:
RECEIVES A LETTER.
State Of Minnesota. Executive Department
St Paul, Feb q 1S99.-James 8. O'Brien'
Esq, Saltwater, Minn-Sir: The governor
directs me to say that you have been fur
nished all the data that appear of record In
this Office. The statements made at the
hearing have not been transcribed from the
stenographers notes. and 1t is not deemed
necessary that they should be- Very re-
sPectfully L. A. Rosinr
Governors Private Secretary"
70 winch | made reply as follows:
hon. John Lind. Governor-Sir: 1 am in
receipt of the following communication:
ST raul, FEB. 2 lSJ9.-JameS O,Priap