The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-22


MENTO, Jan. 21.-The committee of
special investigation met this afternoon
at 2:SO in the Assembly chamber, with
six members present. Wade. as usual,
was the absentee. The following is a
verbatim report of the proceedings:
AIR. Bacon-At the time the committee
adjourned | requested that Mr.. Anderson
be recalled and / would like to have him
d recalled for a short examination. You
VIII remember asked the right to recall
him.
The chairman-I remember something
Of that kind. do not remember just
what it was.
Alden Anderson recalled to the witness
stand. testified as follows:
Mr. Bacon-Now, if the gentleman will
permit me, l would like TO ask Mr.. An
derson a few questions.
The chairman-C Certainly, unless the
cgInmittee order differently.
Mr. Bacon-Mr. Anderson, you were on
the Witness stand the other day?
a. Yes, sir.
- 9. And during the course of your testi-
.. mony you spoke Of having had a con-
Yersation with Mr.. Benjamin?
. = a, Yes, sir.
'..:Q Who came to see you at suisun?
"A. y eS, sir
'': @. And afterward you had converse
ton with Mr.. Green in San Francisco?
"A. ! eS, sir.
q. l will call your attention to ques-
= ton near the top of page 167 of the tran
SCRIPT OF the testimony, which is as fol-
lows: Did that agent in Suisun init
mate that if you received that money
that i would be part of the eXpecta-
len ton that you would vote. for Mr.. Grant?'
This is referring TO visit that was made
70 you by Mr. Benjamin. Your answer
10 that question, as it is here, is that II
g., cannot remember that that consideration
was ever yer. expressly stipulated; that was
my understanding of it" Now, you re-
member testifying that way, do YOU. Mr..
Anderson?
A. Wen, I really. so far as-my whole
intention was to say that. while he didn't
say; that he had express authority To
make that agreement. that was the i'm
ptcau0n all through the conversation.
z. Well, that was the implication that
you drew from it?
A. Yes, sir.
.. But he never made any express state
ment at all Of that kind, as ! understand
no. sir
Q. He simply said that Mr.. Green was
making Mr.. Grants fight and was willing
10 defray the election expenses of mem
bers-of people who were running for the
Assembly-did he not?
a. Well. he said that he was willing
. 9 That ne was TO advance money to
help pay expenses?
o. @. And there was nothing, as you have
said before. there was nothing in his
conversation in which he said directly
with the understanding and with the
agreement that you should vote for Mr..
Grant2
a. Not in regard to the financial part
no.
Q. Well. then Mr.. Green asked you-at
the time you had the conversation with
Mr.. Green up in his office-isn't it fact
that you discussed with him about what
your election expenses would be?
No. sir; no, sir.
g. Did not say anything about it?
A. No. sir
@. He did not ask you about that at all:
A. Not that 1 know of. l did not try tc
enter into discussion with him at all. be-
cause l did not want TO discuss the ques-
ton with him.
9. Did not want to discuss it, then, al
A No, sir.
q. He did not make a proposition to you
there-and l don't believe you say so
either. ! believe you also testified, in re.
Epect to that conversation of Mr.. Green's
that what Mr.. Green tried to do there was
TO convince you that Mr.. Perkins
@. Senator Perkins wanted Mr.. Grant tc
succeed in his candidacy?
"A. Yes, sir.
Q. And ne, also at the same time. in the
same conversation, said that he was will
ing to assist you in your election?
q And he did not make any direct prop
osftion TO you-did he?-at that time, thaf
he would assist you in this election if yor
would vote Tor MIR. Grant.
"A: No. sir-nO; that is he did not express
IL In words.
"a: I know-he didn't make any direcr
proposition OF that kind. All you did was
TO draw your inference.
"A: Yes, sir.
@: There was no such statement. Of any
such trede as that, made by Mr.. Green?
A. l never so stated.
Q. And you do not so state now?
a. No, sir.
Mr.. Bacon--I would like to ask you an,
other question. Mr.. Anderson, if the com
nfittee will permit me.
The chairman-Go ahead.
Mr.. Bacon-What is your business, Mr.
Anderson?
O. How often are you in San Francisco
s. Sometimes twice week; sometime:
once a week.
6. Do you know Mr. Herrin?
A. No. sir.
o. Did you never see him?
A. Never saw him, to the best of m,
knowledge I never saw him to know
him; wouldn't know him if I saw hin
Mr.. Bacon-I do not think I desire t,
cross-examine the witness any further
and probably 1t would not be seemly il
The chairman-Well. Mr.. Anderson
from what language or incident in con
nection with that interview
The witness-What interview do yol
mean?
~
A Mr.. Benjamin? Is that right?
The chairman-Yes, with Mr.. Benjamin
Q. Did you draw the inference that yol
have referred to?
A. Well he made-T guess Will hav,
TO tell the whole business and make
statement connecting Herewith: Mr.
BENJAMIN is an attorney in Vallejo anC
comes to Suisun once in whle-FairfielC
is the county seat-on business. Whethel
he was at my Office once or twice l can
not say. He may have dropped in thert
casually. But at this time he came to Sc,
me. My private secretary, who attend:
to all my personal business and CORE
spondence Mr.. Hilborn, was in the room
and was excused; and he came in ther,
and sat down and commenced to talk, ant
told about people that he had seen anC
then went on to tell that he thought Mr.
Grant would surely be the next Unitec
States Senator anu that Mr.. Green haC
told him that if | needed any money VI
there that l could have some in my dis
trict: and / Immediately most positively
and emphatically told him that he. know
ing me as well as he did-ny reputation
as I thought it was understood-shoulC
have told him that such a proposition
would not be entertained by me. But hi
went on to say that he had been in oul