The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1899-12-14

cannot vote fneeifiasntiy upon them un-
less we know something about them"
Canon ogdsn-"It win save time to
procsed under these rules which Gen.
Brown has suggested. Il win also save
the discussion Of the reputation Of clergy
men. The clergy may ehoose man and
thsn the laity can take recsss and talk
the matter over. object 10 thu dis
oussi,n of the character Of clergy men 40
II might injure their reputation and do
them irrepsrsbls injury"
Mr.. Stinson-"The reputation OF any
man whose name might be presented be-
fore this convention should like Caesars
wife be above suspicion. Amy man fit to
be voted upon here should have reputa-
ton above supicion.
George E. Hughes Of Bath did not be-
lieve that the character OF the nominees
should be discussed. ten. Brown Thoughts
the rules governing the last convention
should be adopted.
Rev. DIR. Dalton OF Portland-"D Discus
sion of character should be allowed
Clerymep are here who represent very few
people while the lay delegates here repre-
sent well established parishes. These dele
gass should be allowed the privilege Of
nominating the candidates and knowing
something about them"
Kew. MIR Gregson-i'1f We adopt the
rules presented we will not have a right
to nominate. The last speaker said moth
log which has a bearing on the subject
under consideration.
Rev. Thomas h. Calvert OF Portland -
"I don't question the motive Of Gen.
Brown In introducing this sst OF rules,
but there Is suspicion in this first rule
preventing nomination whiah indicates a
want Of fair play. No doubt a man pro-
posed might be discussed la private and
may the Holy Spirit guide US to the right
man. Some of us come here with open
minds and In justice to these the names
of those presented should be discussed. /
court openness and fair play In this INIT
ter. Regarding the shi,lding Of the
character Of any clergyman l wish TO say
that II cler man cannot suffer his
name to be presented here and freely dis
cusssd ttan something is wrong with the
clergy. am for free speech.
Samuel W. Lane of Augusta-''When /
tons made but we are here with men
whose trade 1t Is to talk. believe in
doing business. We have heard some Of
the talk and can see what Is coming. A
think we had best procsed without the
making Of nominations. There are just
enough to talk here to consume the en-
tire day" MIR. Lane was appiauded by
the laity when he sat down.
Rev. Mr.. Shsphsd Of Portland Long
experiences has taught me that there are
other people who love TO talk beside
olergymen. havs q letter In my pocket
from Bishop Potter. In this letter he
Gays: 'Mr. Shepherd, whatever you dc
talk this matt,r OUT (AppiAuse.) And
we propose to talk IL out whether We talk
into the night or talk until NEXT Satur-
day night. l feel the importance Of tree
speech. In Ohio and New York where
have sat In conventions which have
chosen bishops this has been allowed.
don't want IL to 60 out over she land that
We won't allow free spesoh here on this
gag law. We are citizens Of the United
states rs we'll al clergymen OF this diocese
and we propose to be heard. am In
favor OF free discussion of the men
whose names are to be pre- sentei here. Il
| they are not above suspicion their name'
should nut he presented here. i am above
reproach AID i should hope that othei
clerRymen are"
Rev. Walter Stewart Of Bath-''I am In
favor of legitimate talk, but do protest
against anyone getting any orders into
this convention from Henry g. Goldman
| mean Potter-or any other bishop of the
church,
Rev. Mr.. Gregson-'' Every member Of
the convention should be heard
Rev. DIR. Dslton-"Thers was an OF.
portunity In 1866 ut that convention to
hear discussion of nominations. In ths
election Of the tirst and second bishops
no one ever thought Ct preventing tb'
discussion Of the character of the men
whose names were presented"
Dean sills-"I wish to call the atten
tion OF the gentlemen to the fact that
these roles now before the convention
which prohibit the discussion OF character
were those which we're adopted both by
the convention Of 1866 AID that of 1867"
Rev. MIR. Fortin OF lewiston Free
speech may re obtained by taking a re-
cess. move TO lay the motion to ALLOW
nominations on the TABLE,"
This question was put.
"The ayes have 1t, announced the pre-
siding officer.
II doubt the vote," crisd several,
A rising vote was then taken aud Mr.
Fortin's motion TO table the molten for
free discussion was lost by vote of 10 60
80 yeas.
| An amendment allowing nomination.
without discussion Of character" wa
pssssd by q large vote.
| Gen. Leavitt OF Eastport then moves
that the convention prooeed to ballot.
Rev. Mr.. Dsgan--''I move that nomi
mating speeches be limited to three min
/ utas