The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-21


debauch you-corrupt you?
Mr.. Evans-Just a moment. l objec
TO that question. This man has no
stated that the idea ever did enter hi
mind that he was to be debauched
Mr.. Dickson-Or pretended to be de
bauched, if you want it that way.
(Argued hE counseD.
Mr.. Evans-You claim then that h,
was dishonesty bribed by McCune?
Mr.. Dickson-We will take a ruling
on the question.
When did the thought first occur L
you that you would endeavor to in,
duce Mr. McCune or anybody else t
corrupt you as a member of the le%is
lature. or offer TO corrupt you? Snail
1 answer the question?
Mr.. Evans-I make no objection Il
that.
Question ready
! Well. last Friday.
About what time Friday did il frs
occur TO you that You would make this
attempt? VIII you please repeat thai
question?
About what time on Friday last did
it occur to you the first time that YOU
would make this attempt to induce
McCune to offer you Il bride? Do you
mean when did 1 determine to- tahe
that course?
You say on Friday: I say at what
time on Friday? The thought first Oc-
CURED to me during joint session on
Friday. but 1 didn't act on it and
! hadn't formed any determination on il
at that time.
Up to the time Of the session of the
| egislature-joint convention on Fri
! day. it had never occurred TO you to
make any attempt of this kind? Oh,
| it may have occurred to me.
/ Had it? But it hadn't taken any
definite form.
When did it first occur to you; when
did the thought first occur to you?
don't remember.
Try TO remember. Search your men,
DRY a little. The first time 1 remember
was on Friday last.
That is the first recollection you
have; that was during the session of
the joint convention on that day? Yes.
sir.
HIS TALK WITH TURNER.
Do you know ex-Sheriff Turner of
Cache eountv?s Yes. sir.
Do you remember of having a CONVEX
sation with him on Thursday in the
corridors Of this building. in one of the
corridors? No. sir; although L may
have had one; don't remember.
Don't you remember Mr.. Turner
meeting you just before the joint con-
vention met in the corridor of the
building here and stating to you that
he wished you would see your way
clear to vote for Mr. McCune? I re-
member Mr.. Turner making a state
ment of that kind to me, but l don't
remember whether it was Thursday or
not
Well, am calling your attention to
Thursday, just before you went into
joint convention? Well, 1 don't re-
member whether he made that state
ment to me on Thursday or not.
l am told that I used the name or
McCune instead of Turner: Turner met
you in the corridor just before you went
into the Joint convention on Thursday
last and had a conversation with you?
1 understand the question as it was;
1 don't remember whether Mr.. Turner
used that expression to me on Thurs
day or not.
Was it on Friday? l don't remember;
don't know.
Was it before the thought had oc-
CURED to you that you would try to
induce McCune to offer you a bride? /
really cannot remember when Mr.
Turner made that statement TO me.
Don't you remember? Although
know that he made the statement; 1
remember that.
And didn't you reply to that in sub
stance that if anybody would give you
a good logical reason for voting for Nc
Cune that you might do so? 1 may
have said that in substance.
And didn't Mr.. Turner in reply to
that remark of yours say: You were
elected largely by Democratic votes and
upon your assurance 10 your constitu-
ents that if elected the election of a
Democratic senator would be just as
safe in your hands as though a Demo-
crat We're elected in your stead?" Well,
as a matter of fact Mr.. Turner tried 10
convince me whenever he was in Salt
Lake
Don't you remember Mir. Turner say
ing that to you in substance? 1 never
remember hearing Mr.. Turner say that
much to ne on that subject at one
time.
Do you say that he didn't in the cor
ridor in this building He may
have.
Just before the meeting of the con-
vention on Friday He may have
said that.
He made that statement to you? He I.
may have said something of that kind /
to me.
Didn't you reply to that that you
didn't think that was Il logical reason, [
but that if he or anybody else would I
give YOU a good logical reason for vOt- (
ng for McCune perhaps you would do .
so? No. sir: I don't remember making .
that statement
NEVER TALKED OF IDAHO OR .
MONTANA.
And didn't you then pause and say q
moment afterward that if this was in 4.
Idaho or Montana it would have been /
settled long ago? No, sir; 1 never made /
hat statement.
And didn't YOU follow it up by saying
Why hadn't they got down 10 business
" why hadn't they done business? No,
iir; 1 never made that statement.
At any time or place? No. sir. not to
ny recollectiorr 1 never made that
statement.
Not to your recollection. Do you say
without any qualification that you did
lot make any statement OF that kind
o Mr. Turner? No. sir: I didn't.
Nothing in substance like that? No,
ir: nothing that meant that.
Not until Friday die the thought ac-
ur TO you you say to make the at
empt that you did to entrap McCune?
say that probably the thought had
lot taken any definite form.
Well, had it taken an indefinite form
n your mind before Friday? It may
AVE incidentally occurred to me be-
ore Friday.
Can't you tell these gentlemen
whether it had occurred to you? No,
ir.
You cannot? No, sir; I cannot keep a
ecord of all the thoughts that pass
through my mind.
The first definite recollection you have
f this thought that crossed your
lind at all was on Friday? Yes, sir.
Didn't you week ago Saturday meet
Iajor Stanton in the Onyx saloon in
his city-you know Major Stanton?
20. sir.
Didn't you meet a gentleman in the
'nyx saloon between and o'clock