New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-25

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Q-Iiow do You know you have n not except this
TSe Cbairman-Do you know where that letter
came eb 1aoW vou Know the handwriting? A.-No.
Odd not Sergeant Cans tell you where 1t came
from? A-No. sir; he ola not
GIVES A FOOLISH REASON.
Mr. rallows-Do you have any reason or did you
have any reason for not knowing where II oa'"e
from? A-No. s
o.-Have 20, looked carefully at the hano-
writing to see whether you ever saw 1t perore' A.
Yes SIR have / don't know H.
Mr. Clarke-Your old Municipal Sergeants Asso-
citation died when? A.-Wel 1t died probably TWO
months ago when this other one was organized
Ooh. 1t was In existence up TO inc TIME '""'
this was organized? A o,,,s SIR that, A-we be-
cause it was necessary to Incorporate with us the
sergeants of Greater New-York. oo,.,,or Is ~
Q.-You were president of the old association
o.-What difficulty was there in just going on
with that one? A-No difficulty at ALL oniy !, was
simply desirable that there should be uniformity;
Q-And therefore in the end OF FEBRUARY ana tns
first OF March you let the & Gs ws nd To
Q.~At the same time that the captains formed +, ned
newspapers. That is all heard about T. o,a ...o-
The Charman-Do you understand the ou asso
citation was Incorporated?
o-Neher soclety-neher Of the assOc cSd ,1Se
were incorporated? A-No. We ola AT one '''i'e
think OF having It incorporated. ,..ro tho mir.
Q-And according to your knowledge ,re ,gen-
poses and objects OF the two assoc'a''o"s "'e
The Chairman-Let me understand this TINS is
an organization for benevolent purposes anu "o' III
o.p~And you have a treasurer? A,Yes - &
Q.-And he is not under bonds! A.-ies' ne 10
under bonds. believe.
LAX METHODS SUIT THEM.
o-Wbat bonds is he under? Al could not say
now.
o.-Do you think that that is businessike way
tor carving on an organization? At may not
he but on account Of the work 1t serves our pur-
poses. .
O.-There was not any necessity for incorporat-
ing this. was there? A.-No; we probably WOULD
later on. We had articles OF Incorporation u'a""
o-I am speaking of this present organization
Ave have been talking about the ORGANIZATION.
O-How much money has the treasurer OF 'Ha'
association? Al could not say now ,h,rk ha had
Q.-Does anybody know? Al MINK ne "au
s2iJ-somethng like that ..,. ornar,zo.
O-Who knows how much money TINS orsani@a
'iC 0 .s Who knows how much money has been
collected? A.-The financial secretary
O.-You have no knowledge? A-No. 80
Mr.. Clarke-Do you have regular meetings! A.
OLHow often? A-Once a month.
Odd YOU have a meeting this month. April!
Ayes sir: we had meeting In Brooklyn.
not Tine eo G6a Geers are excused un further notice
Q-Sergeant. you say that you never nen'd g. VI
Of the Central once going around to the dfferen,
precincts in regard to the matter we nave peeh
'ao.k mSSe Sep" heard Of IT, ANever heard of #
Odd you ever hear him say, or hear ANYBODY
that it Was better n to pay 10 th s De
% o1Y Yeuer never S said it Yourself; No sir
oDo think was ,,, better to PoS than be
Odd you pay So into this fund? Al did not
Odd you pay any amount into this fund? A
o~How much? A dollar
3-Is that all ATn mat Is na dti to your certain
knowledge? A-That is all know Of
FEARED ONLY FOR THE PENSION.
o-You say that under the solemnIty- A
Q-And that the sole business that was trans
acted at the meeting. either before or after It's
formal adjournment was in regard to the oeneVo-
lent and endowment feature of the association
Q-And you didn't care and don't care. or you
stoppedF A-WeIi' didn't want our pension in
o-was there anything pending. that would in
terfere Sh your pension lawn was something
Q 9e we was thai' Al don't remember exact
pension law to make i uniform
Q..Make It uniform?. What do you mean by that?
.o.-Well what do you mean by that? We'll
ys each so mucs or n 'he
or whatever they were.
o-Was such bill that pending? Ayes.
o-was IT about that that this Assemblyman
letter in the meeting? A.-There was somebody
spoke about the pension bin believe was present
somebody said they didn't think 1t amounted to
o"Was that said in the letter which We have
asked YOU about? A-No. sir.
Q-You still stick to IT no letter was read? A
tefestcd in pending bill in regard to pensions?
Odd You do ANYTHING about IT? No we
made from some Assemblymen in regard 10 it, and
somebody said that that was the end Of 1t. and we
n me- such hef b at at all again. S0e 0'' ''' "e'e
SELDOM SEES DEvERY.
Q-Do you know the Chief? Al do: yes.
Q.-Are you in the habit of seeing him? A.-No.
sir
Odd you him in February or early in
March in regard to your association? A.-No, sir:
| did not
Q.-Was there any suggestion made TO you from
a higher officer that you should form such an asso-
citation? A-No. sir
the Department ought TO be unit? A.-No. sir:
o.~stand together? Al have no recollection
Q-And so far you were concerned you meyer
sir
Q.-That the Department should be a unit? A
No. sir.
Q.-And stand together about what might occur
outside? A.-No. sir.
O-And that patromen oughtn't TO kick at a
slight expense: that everybody should be in II to-
gether for mutual support? A.-No sir.
Q.-Never heard anything of that kind? A.-No
sir but II might have been preached. That has
been talked OF for good many years but haven't
heard II spoken about recently at all. From time
10 time that has been spoken OF and advoca ted.
and some favored It and some rejected II and some
wasn't
Q-What do you mean by it, when you say
somebody advocated II? A.-The scheme.
O.-What scheme? A.-The scheme Of forming
a Joint association.
o.-For what purpose? Amy purpose
Ono. but what purpose? A.-Oh you asked
me
Q.-And you began TO talk about It. and you said
some advocated IL and some didn't and some didn't
believe in It and thought 1t would cost too
much. etc A.-You asking about the scheme.
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