New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-25

Q-When did you see It In the papers. Al"
q tns aa sEHJn se. oG your meeting
caedl AThat called and presided at the meet
SMRSSo y .s. gTfs IS Al A dons 81!
9-How did it come to Be Called 3D. A'-Tha' l
Q.EYou were not directed to call t' A'-No
ree Quinn was not there he was in Flsshns
You don't know how it came to be called! A.
aowy S aa yoa come to presde' Are you an
Queer o1 A did YOU s,' come to preside? AThe pres
oen. qias the association vice-presdent? A.
No in Se of the president you were
eleeteH Sou state to the meeting what the object
meeting Inf wss know own What the object of the
meeting saSw wa s vas told III the building
9-Who tod yoq %Soi A das' III '"' ,
9-TMhen you must know who called raed ag Sy
s sone one a m sidn't IT. = Ayes sir
REMARKABLE MEETING. THAT.
oAna Won say the first notice you had OF ,ns
otsao, ., the meeting was by somebody teihhs you
,bera when YOU got there? A.-Oh' no. III '"o
building. 49, r,s.,or,ers
O.-What building? A-Police Headauarle's.
o.-was the meeting at Police Heaoau"''e'''
Asut then before you left Police Head t ee
to go Ts to M for9 A.mYes sir .a ss,,nr
0-Do you 10 say II was as oticers present?
hy tho association and none OF its oIncei' PS
% re Is the way happened a TO r be- knew what
he S mSs5Ts WAS WAS tori f fors Ave had fund
"a counsel f fund, A-Yss ST.
S.-fiow long have they had tna''
tae How much is there in that fund.- Al don't
foDon know? Well go on f wnd! w" Aff Sh
to be done with this cou S have IL returned.
"o O"How much was returned to each ohe' "
What ne mao much I1' had each one put in? Alive
d9 a 5lmFive dollars7 How old was this counsei
fvsd was it Or A hs2 use ssuG ID hTs
the roundsmen 1ve we're entted to permanent office
O-It was a fund to procure iesal a' q that II?
taining their rank as regular rahh' 10 ''"'
Ao-1And you say each roundsman had contributed
to 1t? A- any clam been paid out Of it? A
No, sir.
SOME GOT THEIR MONEY BACH
Ono lawyer had been retained? A:-No'
O.-Why didn't you give 1t back to all the iiie"'-
hers? ALL got It that came after IT, 49,.
oAu got II that cam after it? And you ooh
know who called the meeting for that purpose? A.
That L don't know, SIT .oL
$50 that this was a meeting TO get PACK
money and not put it in. is that II! As; 81. nc
.o-who held the counsel fund? A-One OIL the
old officers don't know anything about nr IT.
hat was A.
the meeting and went down with this cem Now
that was formed ToS iGr oer business than back
that money? A.-That was the primary '"'' - '
The is that money o my tsat
was not returned to those that didht ca"'
Some yo@ say was to those that came
had paid in but dd not cal sail for III Asome Of
heer e the ssSHG q aR as Holmes. of
1s %T 'SShlarke-Roundsman Holmes. Of Brooklyn?
What precinct? Simply for the purpose OF idenmr
fcation. roundsman. A.-Astoria; don hh'"
"n nat HharmanAnd was he there at that meet
ing EHow low many nan We're present? A.-About forty
0-Forty? How many roundsmen are mere a.
There mS aSou Ge fory PRESENT the primary
object OF the meeting being to get PACK eet
and none the officers regular o bns e 81 tes
sSsrman 1 pro tenn; that is straight. is 1T? A.
S Yes. ''' '''''' ~
SOME LEFT THEIR MONEY UP.
o.-How much was paid back that nishtF A.
o~When was It paid back? A-The next meet
ing , -
o.-How long after was that? A week or
ten days
Odd you get yours back? A.-No
O-You didn't think that the counsel fund at
that time ought to be reduced. did you? Al
hadn't put up any $3.50. ~ or,,,
Tbe {Gm nna nsxTa should you meeting
called for that puppose u y9% ms meeting
oBut you had no money up what IA pa meetnr
where money was to be returned? Al happened
wsGs t0 %as Ye wha'
p pose a. j." yet YOU went there, Who asked you
to M 70 ce asr you know conbOy' A-Thomas
Conboys yes SIR, Outside
precinct 6 BE- nI A sta Rr0 %Yes
soc-He is a roundsman. too. Did you ever re-
ce1xe any moneys from Conboy? .A-No. sir.
oe % f lar or small? Wasn't he collector in
Brooklyn? Al don't know;
Brooklyn and turn IT over to you? Ale turned
nS opd you ever hear that sergeants were ex-
pected to pay s25? A.-No. sir.
oNNever heard word about that? A.-No.
S-And a patrolman So and they kicked and
S Ssd a sy T Ssm? any because the ''
o@You never heard any discussion in the De;
take aoU Sy the ln0ie or c' ANo
O-You never heard this phrase about being
unit and standing together at this timer Al
o-You have heard that phrase the Police De,
partment being a unit? Al don't know that /
o-That is a familiar phrase in the Department.
isn't 1t? 1t means standing together against all
outside attacks OF every kind. does It? 1t means
standing together inside at trials. doesn't 1t? 1t
means the uniform against the world, doesn't II?
II means that the interest OF is the interest of
all against all outside attack. doesn't it? Alt
might, yes.
THEY ALL STAND TOGETHER.
Q-Isnt 1t well understood that that is the theory
OF the force, to stand together for protection? A
Stand together for their own ends. certainly.
Q-Yes whether on trial or whether against re-
moval that is the doctrine Of the force. isn't 1t?
A-No, sir: never heard of 1t.
Odd you ever know Of a policeman on police
trial swearing against another officer of the
grade? Al never had any particular occasion
Q.-You heard of II? Al never had any
occasion. $780,, ~
Q.-But you never heard Of such thing IN an
vorr wears I'm the Department? II Is unity the