New-York tribune., 1899-06-07


saped in soliciting men have increased
,-rs,,, an number since the first OF January, 1885,
-.c,nct, Al don't know as would saw
that Mr.. Moss
GAMBLING HOUSES INCREASE.
p What would you say about thatr Al think
q. g. .bou, the same number as has always been
there.
o-you think there Is? Ayes.
o-Ru, YOU do state that there more gam
-, bouses and disorderly houses open running
nrs,ness openly? "A great many more
And is II not we'll understood and reputed
,hrourhout the district that these places may do
business II they pay largely enough. lie not that
,ne common understanding? A-well. II is gen.
erally understood that the places running pay
ing largely for Il. because there some people
the same as l. who cannot do any business at all
OF any kind
O-Where there are some people like yourself
who cannot do business al all. there a great
many more who are doing II constantly? A
Yes, sir.
Q-And doing the same business you were doing.
and a worse business? CNot answered)
Q.-what do you say to that? Al say this
my business has always been done honestly, as
far as the White Elephant was concerned-it was
an honest business.
Q.-You mean TO say no thieves OF rouoers tnore'
Al don't want TO blow my own bugle say
there never was q place in the Tenderioin Una,
conducted
straighter than the White Elephant
o-You don't know that prostitutes resor7ed TO
that place? Al may have idea whether
woman Is prostitute not but that Is not
legal evidence.
O-You don't deny that they came there7 A
rood many women came there; yes. sir.
Q-And the women who come and sit around
those tables at midnight generally open to
that charge? Al would say yes
ON that part Of the town? Al should
say yes.
ting al the tables in your place after II O'clock
there were great many more in such places as
the Tivoii the Bohemia, the Cairo, the Columbia
and the Haymarket. and large number OF places
Of that class weren't there? A-Certain kinds.
BECKER's ODD PROPOSAL.
Q.-You have a private house in Thirty-nnth-
st? A-Yes sir: 1athouse
Q.-Do you remember a police officer making
proposition 10 you about that house? Allow
long ago?
OIL don't know when il was When was IT.
Prior 10 Captain Prices time? Ayes. sir; had
an arrangement there with party.
Q.-How long ago was that? Am Captain
sheehans time.
o-who was the party? Alt was Detective
pecker.
o-was that in ls3S? Al think that
probably 1897
A.
ON the fall O. so. near as you can re-
member IL You are not accurate however? A
No sir
O-Ncw what did Detective Becker say 10 you?
Adjective Becker came TO me. He said: You
have got a fathcuse. No. lis Thirty -ninth-st'
said: Yes sir" He says: - want 70 that
house" He says: Il don't want you 10 pay any
attention % it at all l will take Of that
house" was rather surprised at the proposi-
ton He said: u will attend putting the
tenants in that house and everything. You needn't
60 near the house"
The Charman-what was the character Of the
house which you were running. Al always had
a good many nice people in that house.
Q-Any dlsorderly or disreputa5le people in the
house? A-Not that know Of l always tried
TO keep clear OF that kind as far as possible.
Mr. Moss-But you not quite sure Of the char
aoter Of the people there? Al am doing the
best can.
Q.-Now about Mr.. Becker' Ale said he
wanted to run that house; You will have 10 turn
St over 10 me" said: Il suppose will have to
Go IT," He demanded IT then said What
do you expect to get out Of II" He said; Il want
SIS month out Of It. / will take care Of the
house" never went the house at all; my
collector simply collected the rents. That went
on for two months
Q-You paid him SIS each of those two months?
Al did
HE EXCULPATEs sHEEHAN.
Q-And did you receive or less rent from
those tenants under that arrangement? Alt
a very good investment for me.
Q.-They paid more rent? Ayes. sir.
Q.-What causel that arrangement TO be termi-
mated? Al don't really know; l only had my
opinion about It.
Odd Becker remain in the precinct or was he
transferred? A-Wer this arrangement became
dead before his transfer
The Chairman-when this ARRANGEMENT in
H4v1y p1ff @aD
from my book just what date it was
Mr.. Moss-What caused IT'S dlscontinusnce can't
you tell? Al think Becker going too fast
! think Captain sheehan perfectly honest.
don't think Captain Sheehan got cent out Of that
money. / think his wardmen throwing 1t
into him. l think when he learned Of II he
stopped It.
Odd he learn Of Il? A.-So ! informed.
don't think sheehan got dollar.
Q-You think il was Captain sheehan that
stopped It? Al do
The Chairman-Do you ren, furnished fats in that
Q.-You furnish the fats and everything? A
Mr. ,Horman-Mr. Ellis. how long did you run
phant?
,Q-Yes Al opsned that about the 10Th Of
Q.-Did you have any place prior 10 January
year ago? An the saloon line?
Q.-Any place. Al had No. I1s Thirty
Q.-And you were around that neghborhood how
long time before that? A-The last four or FIVE
years.
Q.-More or less the last four or FIVE years These
rumors you have been speaking about here in refer
ence 10 protection. did YOU hear about them before
that? Al know there considerable OF II under
Captain Sheehan, done by his men
9;-When? =, AItDuring 1896 and 1897 1t was gem
eral runor that his men were doing less
business
HE MADE NO COMPLAINT
Q.-In reference 10 this matter Of Detective
Becker IN the ran o: 1897. did you make any COM
y did not.
Q.-To the Chief OF Police? Al did not; no. sir
Q.-And when was this arrangement Terminated
between you AID Becker? Alt ran for a matter
OF about months.
Q.-Beginning when? Al should Judge about
September.
Q.-Of 1872 Untii November 1897 A-About
that: could tell exactly from the books
Odd pGY him any rnnnera A Va