The Red Cloud chief., 1899-03-03
GlllAN'S TESTIMONY.
Examiner Palms Assistant Tolls Commit
tee What He Knows.

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Lincoln, Neb., Feb. 25.-Mr T. II. Gill
Ian of Auburn, who was insurance en-
aminer under Auditor Cornell, and ac-
companied Mr.. Palm on his eastern
trip, was in the witness chair before
the legislative investigating committee
yesterday. Mr.. Gillian gave his Dusi-
ness as that OF abstractor, in which
occupation he had been engaged at
Auburn since 1892.
In January, 1875, Mr.. Gillian testified
he left Upton, Pa, for Montpelier,
VI, to assist Mr.. Palm in insurance
examination, on notice received
from Mr.. Palm. lie had, about
without solicitation on his part, that
he would be accorded such a position.
About Christmas he left to visit with
relatives in Pennsylvania, and on Jan
uary "a left them to proceed to Mont
PETER, as stated.
lie had never met Mr.. Palm until
he met him at Montpelier, although
he had seen him at conventions. Mr..
Palm and the witness then proceeded
to the office of the National Life In
surance company, which Mr.. Palm had
u commission to examine.
Returning to Montpelier, the ques-
tions Of Captain Fisher brought from
Mr.. Gillian the testimony that he, with
Mr.. Palm, had entered the office of
the National Life, but that he person
ally never got further than the lobby
of the building.
On January 81, they left for Hart.
ford. There the Hartford Fire Insur-
ance company was examined. .
II did not work." said Mr.. Gillian
the examination of this company"
did you share any of the proceeds
of the cxamination?"
"When we left Hartford Mr.. Palm
gave me 5000 or $205."
"What was this for?"
"He said that was what / was EMIT.
led to for my time and expenses"
They were nine or ten days in Hart
ford. Witness made no examination
OF any company there himself, nor did
he assist In any examinations.
"How did you dispose Of your time
while there?"
"Well, | arranged with Mr.. Palm
that ! should stay at the hotel, wait,
ing for him to come and get me to &c
to work"
Mr.. Gillian had been once at the Of
flee of the Hartford Fire cmpany and
| twice at the Travellers, not longer thar
fifteen minutes at any time. On one
of these occasions he met Mr.. Batter
, son, president of the Travellers.
/ "You do not know what Mr.. Palm
/ charged these companies, do you?"
~ don't know what he charged an,
5 of them. He collected the money ant
gave me what he thought was right
The letter written February 4, 1898
I from Hartford. Mr.. Gillian said h,
very foolishly wrote at the request o
Mr.. Palm.
II wrote 1t in the language he CAV,
to me, using the pronoun 'we,' O
: course"
"Why was IT necessary for you t.
4 supplement what he wrote by writ
: ing the same thing over again?'
: 81 do not know. In fact it was no
necessary"
"Did he dictate me letter TO you?
"Practically he did"
Being questioned, seriatim, sentenc
by sentence, as to the contents OF tn
letter, Mr.. Gillian confessed he kne,
nothing whatever about Its subjec
n matter.
"When Palm and you first talke
about the charge, what did he say
S ought to be"
81 do not remember. I noticed h
was very angry about something"
Questioned further, Mr.. Gillian r,
y membered that Mr.. Palm said h
d should have at least $500, and finall
took $500.
8 ~ think we got all VIC deserved,
r was the confession OF the witness.
"Did not Mr.. Palm frequentl