The San Francisco call., 1899-04-23
JUDGES ARE NOT UNANIMOUS
STANFoRD'S STRONG PRESENTA-
TION AGAINST RETENTION.
Believe the Occupation Of the Philip
pines Is Against Democratic
Principles as Outlined in
the Declaration.

subject of the argument was tn
question uppermost in the minds of tn
people at the present time:
Resolved, That the retention of the
Philippines is contrary to the princi
pies for which this Government
should stand.
1t was expressly provided that the
debate should be decided upon the
skill of the presentation of argument
more than on the merits of the con-
troversy. Working along these lines
1t was the general impression in the
audience that the honors would rest
with the young men from Stanford,
as their logical presentation of facts
was admitted to be much superior to
that of their opponents. Two of the
latter's representatives contented
themselves chiefly with ridiculing the
arguments of the opposition without
trying to controVert them. The judges
of the debate-E. w. Britt. Judge
Pierson-were divided in their opin-
ions as to where the honors should go.
1t was finally announced that the ma
jority cast their vote for the Univer-
sity Of California, while the remaining
member of the committee favored the
Stanford men. They declined to dis
close the individual vote, but it was
surmised that the judicial mind of
Judge Seawell was not involuntarily
swayed by the question under debate.
bitions of Drawn by the athletes rep
resenting the two great institutions Of
learning were not the only affairs that
attracted friends of the students.
Metropolitan Hall was crowded to the
doors long before the debate opened,
and thus was paid mute tribute to the
highest objects of the universities. The
aisles of the hall were packed, al
though early in the evening police
barred the doors and denied admission
to hundreds of people. The patience
of the audience seemed ineXhausuble,
as none left the building until the re-
suit was announced.
The college yells, without which no
intercollegiate function would be COM
plete, were given in a sharp, incisive
manner. The tempo seemed faster
than that heard on gridiron and cinder
path, the organized ShouterS apparent
ly being under better control of their
leaders. The AK which has played so
prominent part in the affairs of the
colleges was the subject of much good
natured chatting between the students.
President David Starr Jordan and
President Martin Kellogg attended the
debate together and watched with in
terest the struggles of the debaters.
The University of California men
were particularly jubilant, as in the
afternoon their athletes had scored a
decisive victory over the Cardinal. who
had TO find solace in their win of the
tennis championship, about the only
r..
The debaters were: For the affirma-
tive-John Springer, James Ferguson
and Anthony SuZZallo of Leland Stan
ford Jr. University. For the negative
w. NJ. Martin, c. M. Warner and 1.
Golden of the University of California.
Professor Charles Mills Gayley pre-
sided over the meeting and introduced
the speakers. John Springer of Stan
ford opened the debate. He held the
question before the Government at
hn N.Y. ir1n +n ha r1,r,tk k.-,-
retaining the Philippines it is violating
any of the principles for which it
should stand. This Government he
said, should stand for democratic
principles a S they are laid down in the
Declaration of Independence. which
says that all men are created equal
and are entitled to life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness. The speaker
cOntended that the democratic prinei-
pies apply to the people of this country
now as strongly as they did in 1776,
when that great document was framed
AT that time the Americans were the
weaker people struggling for liberty
and he likened them to the Filipinos
of the present day He did not think it
the duty of democracy to invent
new government and then go Cruis-
ing around the world forcing that
government upon unwilling people
To perform this alleged duty in the
Philippines will require a vast army.
He thought it better to bring back
these soldiers and make of them men
and not military machinery. This
country was the first to adopt dem
ocratic principles and one by enc the
others have followed until nearly all
the world believes in them. These dem
ocratic principles apply to all people,
whether they be white or black or
brown.
In conclusion the speaker reiterated
his statement that it was no part of
democracy to force a government
upon unwilling people
w. M. Martin was the first speaker
for the University of California He
dwelt on the dangers of jingoism and
said the retention of the Philippines
was believed in by big men who never
stood for radicalsm or jingoism. He
States III the islands should be re-
membered. He pictured the position in
which Dewey was placed last April,
when he found himself in Hongkong
harbor and had either to fight the
Spaniards or stink home across the
Pacific. After the battle of Manila,
in which he was victorious, the army
of occupation became a necessity. The
speaker contended 1hat this republic
is not fighting for glory, but for the
preservation of law and order The
Philippines came into it's possession
because of war which was awaged
for humanity and justice To%argue
that the United States should with
draw now is to urge the Government
to shirk the duties which belong to If
1t is a duty to the Philippines. to
civilization and to ourselves. To sur
render the islands to the natives would
be absurd, he declared, as they are
not fitted to maintain a government
and could not organize one 1t would
not. do to hand them over to the in
surgents, who are in a minority. nor.
can they be handed over to any other
nation, as this would incur the. hos
tility of nations not participating. II
was incompatible with honor to take
any course except retention If we
withdraw the nations will say we are
too weak or too corrupt to rule the
islands.
James Ferguson, for Stanford ITni-
versity, claimed the previous speaker
had not considered conditions as thev
exist but had argued on conditions as
they. were before the war. He said
they were attempting to govern with
out the consent of the governed He
thought the best policy was that of
helping the new nation, the motto
being. Hands off and walk alone
The succeeding speakers for each
side enlarged upon the ideas outlined
by their leaders. The decision of the
judges in favor of the University Of
California was received with such
demonstrations of joy as marked tha
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