The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1899-09-06
TO KING HUMBERT
AND THE KAISER
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General Roget: mo; all versions giveu
liz Estelhazy are quite incorrect. lie >
an imposter concerning whom | prefer
to express no opinion"
Mr.. Labori Does General Roget con-
slider Esterhazy a mann of straw"
General Roget: II have no proof of the
fact. but ! am inclined to believe that he
isl
NJ. Labori: "Was he a straw man II
1S94g'
General Roget: "No, I do not think
So"
NJ Labor 'iIIow do YOU explain the
fact that Esterhazy made no confession
during the Zola trial?"
General Roget: Il do not know
NJ. Labor: You had made a speech
for the prosecution rather than Il deposi-
tion. have therefore the right to qucs-
tion."
NJ Labor then expressed surprise that
there was no mention of a man of straw
until so late a day. while all the acts o.
which Esterhazy is accused were long
known.
M. Demange said he could not under-
stand why it was alleged that the de-
Tense desired to compromise the heal
quarters staff and asked whence arose
the suggestion that Major Esterhazy
were a mere dummy.
General Roget replied that ONE reason
which induced the belief that Esterhazy
was a man of straw was that his COW
fession that he had written the bordereau
was absolutely inadmdssible. General
Roget was perfectly convinced that Es-
terhazy was entirely innocent of trea-
son. (Murm,ws of assent and dissentN
General Roget next attempted. but
without success to refute the evidence
given on Saturday hy NJ. Desfonds In
motto relative to the sentence Il am
going TO the manoeuvres," saying the
circular issued may have been indeti-
mite.
Captain Dreyfus at this juncture point
ed ont. with reference to the sentence.
81 am going to the lnanoeuvres," the
court possessed the circular and could
judge whether it contained definite i'm
structionS.
The sentence in the bordereau II am
going to the manoeuvres." expressed
positive idea. He not only never went
to the manoeuvres, but never could have
attended them.
NJ. Daffes. a correspondent of the
Temps deposed that Major Esterhazy
told him in London that he fEsterhazyl
was the writer of the bordereau.
A Judge: did it not occur to Won to
ask the obvious question who delivered
NJ. Deffes: Never
Senator Trarieux, ExlAIinister of JUS
tice, was the NEXT witness. When Drey-
fus was convicted, the witness said, he
was convinced like everybody else of the
4H 10
the effect that Dreyfus was a jew
awakened his suspicious. He therefore
consulted NJ. Hanotaux date Prime Min
lister of France) and the latter Informed
the witness of the existence of the 'cettc
canaille de d. document though NJ.
Hanotaux failed to informs him that il
had been impaired to the judges of the
first court martial unknown to the prs
oner. This fact the witnes learned later.
Senator Tralietlx whose Statement was
practically anl Anpassioned speech for the
defense, proceeded to denoqlnce the secret
communication of the document as a
monstrous illegality and violation Of
the most sacred rights of the defence.
NJ. Trarieux pointed out that if any
proof whatsoever of the guilt of Dreg-
fus existed i'm 1896 General Gonse
picquart an order to stop the inyestiga-
ton.
After an interview with NJ. Scheurer-
Kestner, the witness said, he became
convinced of the guilty OF Esterhazy.
In describing the steps taken in sup
port of revision, NJ. Trarieux mentioned
an interview he had with a foreign Am
sbassador, who, in tones of the most
profound and affecting sincerity, declar-
ed that Dreyfus never had relations
with him nor with any military attache
or officer of the army of his country.
M. Trarieux asserted the Importance of
this statement of the Ambassador, who
energetically reaffrmed the absolute in
nocence of Dreyfus. The Ambassador
added that he had investigated and
found nothing to implicate Dreyfus.
Further, the Ambassador said, lie had
seen in the hands of Colonel Panizzardi
letter from Colonel Schwartzkoppen
proving the guilt of Esterhazy, who
His Excellency added, generally COM
municated information of minor value.
Moreover, at the time of NJ. Scheur-
er-Kestner's revelations Major Ester
hazy called upon Colonel Schwartzkop-
pen, and it was then that dramatic
scene of violent recriminations and
threats occurred. The Ambassador also
showed the witness that the "cette can
allie de d." phrase did not apply to
Dreyfus.
/ In a subsequent interview which the
witness had with the same Ambassador
The latter had informed him that the
Henry forgery, which had just been dis
covered had been long known to his
Government and that the French Gov
eminent had been aware of it for
year.
Nj. Trarieux continued
Certain passages of what / asserted
may be taken exception to but among
men of honor who listen there is not
one who doubts the sincerity of my Ian
guage or the truth Of what | have said.
1t may be said that | should not adduce
here the evidence of a foreigner.
This country should be bold and proud
enough to seek the truth everywhere.
Besides, was there not yesterday some
what unexpected evidence of a foreigner
who related remarks of a foreign sover-
eign? Why should the testimony of for
eign representatives be opposed here?
Criticsing General Merciers role as q
,,-;tnacS NJ Tra ,.ialiy said no WAS SiIr-