The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1899-08-27

every th1ng was intact, every pioou Nes-
sci. He might have had some concussion
from the heat, and that might have been
the cause of his instantly dying.
@. Did you hear that he had under
gone severe punishment?
A. Yes, ] found out from the guard
that he had been whipped three times
that day.
@. DO you think that humane treat
ment, doctor?
4. We'll, no, sir, l think that very
cruel.
BEATEN WITH A BRIDLE.
@. understood you to say that Sum
merel was very humane?
a. He was sick when that was done,
and he had given orders that none of the
overseers were to whip the men in the
field without his instructions. The.
oyerseer did this on his own hook. He
whipped him with the bride reins, and.
hit him over the head with the birdie.
| saw him on the road and made in
auir,es of him after | had made the post
mortem examination.
TREATED WHIPPED MEN.
@. Did they never send You in to
see those cases!
A. Well, have had several times to
treat convicts after they We're whipped.
Sometimes the skim was broken and
would treat them for a few days. But
/ always instructed the overseers never.
to hit a man except on the lower mns-
Giles. j think possibly he may have hit
Mazon ON the head, and think he
knocked him down.
@. You do not think that is the proper
way to inflict punishment?
A. No, sir, / do not.
O. Do You know Summerell very we'll :?
"A. Very well indeed.
@. / ask You if he is not veri' pas
sionate man?
"A. Yes, | think so.
@. Don't you think he is a man oc
very strong likes and dislikes?
A. Yes.
@. Do You think he is man who VIII
show partiality through his prejudice?
A. Yes, / think he Will. But | l,now
this, he has very few beats around The
camp. Everything has to work, guards.
overseers and ALL He is man who
has as little loafing as any supervisor
at amy of the camps.
". Iuu SOu4 lIIllAh tIifil tNSlS aCOuNlSe.
and employee working under Summercll
is afraid of him?
A. No, sir. No, sir, ! think not. /
expect the conviots arc.
O. Don't YOU think the employees.
guards and overseers are afraid of him !!
"A. Well, in some instances think they
are. But know some of them who
are not afraid of anybody.
DID NOT UNDERSTAND.
@. What is his reputation i'm this coun-
try?
"A. don't exactly understand.
O. What is his character and reputa
ton?
A. Well, / think every body knows
Lewis SlImmerell is a desperate man
when he gets aroused.
O. WELL he is an extreme man is
he not in every respect? Is not that his
reputation?
"A. Well, | expect | might say so. Ii
he dislikes a man he has no use at all for
him.
O. DO you know David S. Russell?
a. Yes.
@. What is his general reputation
A. Wcll | know nothing in the world
against him.
@. You never heard anything against
lhis character?
"A. No. sir
O. Do you know W. ]. Hodges?
A. Yes, sir.
@. Do you know anything about his
character?
A. Yes, think he has good charac-
ter.
@. Is he a truthful man?
A. Yes. / think SO.
@. You are also physician for Hal
fax farm?
IA Yes.
@. Who is in charge there now?
a. Mr.. Shearin.
DON'T WHIP ENOUGH.
@. From your observation what 10 yon
think of him?
A. He is a very humane man. | think,
ne is most too easy with chem. | don {
think he uses the whip enough.
@. 1t has been. reported, doctor. chat
Mr.. Shearin has been stripping some NO
men and having them dashed. Do you
know anything about that!
A. No. sir, | know nothing of 1t.
@. You have mot been called to treat
amy of them?
"A. No. sir.
@. You have no knowledge of his hay
ing whipped any of them!
A. No. l have insisted Oil his whip
ping some of them. He does not whip
them enough.
@. You think he is too lensent with
themf
a. Yes, he is rather lenient, | think.
You have to punish them in or,ler to do
ANYTHING ait all with them. ! think
Capt. Rhem and Capt IcIver, and all
of them will tell you that.
@. What was the sanitary condition
of the farms you attended during 1897
and 1898?
"A. Well, Mr.. Summerels camp was
very good, indeed.
@. What about Halifax farm!
"A. 1t was a very foul camp, sir.
@. During the administration of John
r. Smith and Mewborne were the con-
yicts well fed and well clothed:
A. They were short of clothes n good
many times.
@. How was it under Leazer?
a. That was pretty well looked after
under Leazer.
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