New-York tribune., 1899-04-11


rooms With Frank Farrell? A~No. SIR. =,
know STSSs Sas + wnS nSi to sEpress s%as myse %sfr
o-There is nothing to straighten out pu. LII W
stick to the straight line. A--A' 'is"''
DOESN'T KNOW MAHONEY's PANTHER
o-Are there not men prominent in this city gov
erument either In office or by reason OF po"uo~
reasons who are connected with poolrooms? A.
No. cir
o.-Have you found out that James Mahoney mas
ANYTHING 10 do with poorooms? Al have not
o~Ana then. of course. you don't know who Is
Mr.. Mahoney's partner do you? Al DO not
o-you have never heard of James Mahoney!
Al have heard Of James Mahoney. ,,,,, IN
;S1nsy while win ffns hand 0y you III Ss. That
card OF admission 10 the XIII & snsny @ nrobably try
such things n AanS and S''n no@ 'Ra As s'P
know repressed that place orSVs nS 60 Forth they
xare ioken into court and their licenses revoked
defy the pOses they heir got Suness Sa' and are
doing the best we can with the Manila ,,,, ,censs
c.a Ape" %'s iss ais
sbng touching on that and this is one d 1f ,ne est
stances where club hcense-anG ir, bsS thing the
s ' IN that respect-but they right on ana des
ns and we keep arresting them ana 'heS are
ei viii tell you what you did In that that osse Sss
The Evening M wGTle he dRsFastins eonduct the
White Rabbit and in the owl ana IN hos ,0c o tbnsS
niaces down on the Bowery. and after thoss .,e1 t
wsre published and The matter got hot tnea sf yoq
people in and did sUmethlnga Gan get the pro
pretors OF those places sent fer mem aS Si1 would
them insy ygos, endeavors TO break their licenses
and send them out OF the ousiness sor, Al try to
do the best ] can. I am coping all the u'ne WIN
'hs, ,o@ f,tSs'l9n %any men have you under your
sndP A-seventy five hundred men pre,sy neao ost
O.-How much money does your pepa a3 ,he records
un
ioc pcnt ,nnt "a YOU Know Att must lie in close to
o-Tweive millions Of dollars ana anaa..p6ey o6eT sbout
sdnt get very far with them but undeTstanat, you
10 continue TO deny MT Matthew
Do understand that right? Al do.
CAPTAIN CHAPMAN's TRANSFER.
or,o was in command Of the Twelfth Pre-
o,nc,thst is east Of the Bowery-at the time these
accusations were being made? At was up
tain O'Keefe who IS dead now X 90 not mahe
any mistake. r...
o-And after him came Stephenson? A-otePhen-
son was prior 10 Captain Okeefe
O-Then an acting captain-what was his name! (!
Sergeant Zimmerman. wasn't It? Al think 1t
o.-And then suddenly you sent Captain Chap
man there? A.-That is right. ,.r,,-
,s;ion was in dealing with that class Of lawbreak;
Ing. didn't you? Ale had the reputation OF
oesnnSs ooSses vim In s' very vigorous way? Ayes sir.
Ole had been subjected TO a great deal OF PUB
.eswskers n sfsisn 'Gn IN the ds Tenderon precinct
that in mind when you sent him down there didh
SppessdideAnt At Of W6s the Board Board - '' ''
you had that IN mind dareS Shtn to .eed ne @
there by President Of the Police Board oar .6 MIR
de. n werd erdegyine gHm me me TO send him there
o-what right has the President OF the Board
Ale made requests OF the Chief. the same as
you would u you were there ,s ~. ., ordsr7
fcTeOls request q saIa,Ar 49, G.n,a,n Chan
man there? A-To look after the precinct. TO see
"oWasn't he sent there TO change the conditions
that had been complained Of? A.-To do the best
o.-cTo change the conditions that had been com n
plained Of wasn't 1t? Something touching on IT.
9-NooVw. there must have been something TO
change to send that man of acts down into the
wasn't there? A.-Pretty hard place TO change
rSso Was IT s pace pdsy iSs needed Changing
Il? A.-we it needed changing certainhly, Ihere
or ss DO SoS SssHS mean by alleged
are constantly talking about alleged matter, You
know those things down there don't YOU! A,
/ know there are various matters down there and
eoNWstters that are not NICE that is what you
mean? A-Matters-well. to be frank with you
'o-That Is what you ought to be all the time?
Alt was done in such way snat through your your
Houses down there and 1t is impossible to get them
,ut and Chapman Is one OF the kind Of people who
Se might do il for this Board. irrespective OF evil
3ence or anything else. and was only too willing
10 have him or any commanding officer under me
20 and do IT, But the tenement house end Of it Is
pretty bad and it is still alleged to exist down
o-Then what DO you by denying what Mr.
ieye from reports of my subordinate officers. I
would hear something specific touching the matter
.o.@..Yoa did get something specific. didn't yOu7
Q-Didn't Chapman find the places and go around
and smash them with his axe? Aft you take an
o-Why don't you take an axe. then? A-Not
Q-You will drop at that? You don't believe in
secessaryf A---If it was an extreme case. where
wanted to really stop people yes.
Q-Then you do believe in using the axe? Al
have done II.
HONEST JOHN KELLYs PLACE
o-You say you did 1t UP at John Kelly's in
Thirty-hrst-s- Ayes
Q-was the axe really used on the door? A.
Yes.
o.-pdn.t John know you were coming? A.-,No:
o...Wasnt the stun all placed ready for you to
you beSw that Or are only guessing,
get John and the stun.
o.IYou got the stufr' Ayes. in the line Of
o.-That was all you got? A.-Ten or twelve
Q.What became Of them? A-Taken into court
and discharged and the stuff returned back.
Q-What was the stun? A.-Well---
Q.-Gambllng, stun wasn't it? A.-Yes.
Q.-What right had YOU to return gambling stuff
TO the gamblers? A.-They got order from the
court.
Odd you appeal It? Al don't know; there
were reasons why.
Q.-Was It an ex parte order? Al couldn't say.
The record will show
Q-Don't the law provide that the police shall
destroy all captured gambling apparatus? Al
don't appeal those cases personally. 1t is a matter
record.
as 10 how they got that stuff back. took II in
good faith, but didn't let ~ 20 back in good faith
Q-You and Captain Price who stands there and
was in the precinct at the time were responsible
for that place Of John kely's, weren't you? A.
Captain Price is responsible for any matters in his
precinct
Q--And you are responsible above him? Al
hold him responsible