El Paso daily herald. (El Paso, Tex.) 1881-1901, 1899-11-16
EXPERTS TESTIFY

About Toxines And
Other Things.
| LAWYERS FIGHT HARE
The Plaintiff In the Hanway Damage
Suit Rested at Noon Today
After Making Out a Strong Case
DR.. Villas, who qualified as an ex per
Yesterday, took the stand as soon a
court opened this morning and contin-
ued to give his testimony.
| His statements were often objected
to by counsel for defense, especially by
DR.. Graves attorney.
| Dr. Villas said that he had not heard
the accident to Hanway described. but
If the the mans leg was SO crushed as
10 be beyond hope of saving it, he
could see no reason for delaying ampu-
tation.
DR.. Villas, in answer to a question,
said that in his opinion toxines had
caused the temperature OF the patient
to rise and that they had acted as q
poison on the system. He then went
on to describe the origin and effect OF
toxines. Toxines introduced in small
quaint titles would cause but slight
rise of temperature, but would not be
dangerous.
"If the rise in temperature goes up
to 1864 could you then form an opinion
as to whether or not toxines became
dangerous to life?'' asked Attorney
P. 81. Clarke.
"It would become dangerous to life. -
eff the operation had been performed
on the morning of the 9th instead of on
the morning of the 18th, would the
danger of the introduction of toxines
be greater or less?"
"Less.n
CATER delay of "a hours or so
would prudence suggest to the surgeon
the danger"
Objected to, as leading, by Captain
Beall and Attorney Clarke retorted.
saying:
II will not ask the question; you
only want a target to shoot at" At
torney Davis argued that hypothetic
question must necessarily be stated to
Attorneys for the three defendants
argued one after another, so that the
question was apparently distasteful to
each of the defendants.
WHAT IS ToxINE?
The question having been withdrawn
DR.. Villas was asked to explain to the
jury the meaning of the word toxine.
He said that toxines were the pro-
duct of the action of certain bacteria
or germs, and that many poisons were
produced by these germs. Tom a1nes,
he said, were produced by various
germs, all of them not being poisonous
to the human family. Some tomaines
are designated as toxines. These are
poisonous. The germs simply set free
the elements which form the tom names.
these elements unite and form the
tomaines.
"In what condition are these
bacteria developed which produce the
tomaines?" asked Mr.. Clarke.
sin both live and dead tissue"
"Would there be any danger of
bacteria appearing in Hanway's leg
after he was iujured?"
eyes"
"Would that have the effect of pro-
SIT might and it might not"
''Now as to toxine, in, what kind OF
tissue would bacteria likely to deve-
lop to produce tox.ne?"
sin dead tissue"
"Wss there live and dead tissue
both in this csse?''
eyes, sir"
How would sthe toxine likely get
into the circulation from the wOuno?"
"Pressure might force it in, but |
cannot say what degree of pressure
would be necessary in this particular
case"
"Bsndsging the limb, as described
by DR.. Schugt, would that force the
bacteria into the system?'
"If there was applied pressure by
the bandage. yes"
1.-THE longer the delay, would the
proba bility of toxine be more or iess?"
''MOre."
"As to the relation of the amount of
toxine to danger OF death, how would
you compare that?'
''The more toxine the more danger
Of 1t getting into the circulation, and
the more toxine got into the circula-
ton the greater the danger of DEATH"
CROSS EXAMINED BY CAPT. BEALL.
doctor, assuming that Hanway was
run over and his leg crushed and lying
there in his clothing, dirt, etc., I'll ask
you whether or not these germs had
time to get into the system before DR..
Turn err reached him?"
Eyes, sir. 1 say they start instant
~"
"Then, in that case, would it be the
injury or the surgery that caused the
germs to start and get into the sys-
Temp"
"The injury
"Could the surgeon do anything more
after getting there than to cleanse the
etc. ~
mo, SIR
Captain Besll then read from q med
Ical book and described the symptoms
Of man whose linn bs were amputated
and who died. DIR. Villas was asked to
ko11 M - 10 D..
He answered, using technical term,
AND then Captain Bell said that the
medical authority from which he read
gave another reason for death.