New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-09-13
\. ana tbs facilities for increasing IT, which WIZ
Iof treat value when the matter comes UP i''
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was ' -. - go. an the wholesale butcher
lbusness and before that was In business no.ra
toenter He had been president OF 'he H~ , ard
land Deputy Commissioner OF street Ce 49,, CEN
was the Tammany leader OF ms uIs ..or, his dis
kerally left the question OF patrohase
Lr,ct IN the Alderman and Assemoiyma ,,
AZ the REQUEST Of Mr.. Moss Mr.. Dai'oh pn-o
"a COPY OF the proposed contract w. t,,s,.d He
Lcompany which has already peeii - rored 10
80 ,roduced a copy Of the reasons ne oiie'e .
fo ,pr~s =, publ,c improvements in urging '.o
laa,roc, These were put on the reco'u dc
Gonoa Mr. Moss also offered in evidence 'he s'a.e
,,nont made by Controller Coler asai's' NV .ha
,ract and the certificate OF incoipoi"' ,,orts
c12amapo Water Company All '"e9e , ranorts
~. been published Some of the annual . -
oomnanv were read by Mr. MOSS. Inc re-
-, tor 1895 was TO the effect that t'e 'f -,
stock OF the company was $VVV'V' ond
iamount of stock had been actuaiiy i =,
,ha, the company had no debts ana a's.s -
least 5000 Mr.. Moss further pu. ~ sa,ad An
,statement from the Secretary OF state oa'eu
-, % 1900 10 the effect that half the capita
s,ock q, the company had not been paid IA, =,
fact not any Of the capital stock had oeei paw ''
ss FOR 500 SHARES.
David T. Davis took the stand Tot n'o'er 80
,.vora that in 1894 he bought on the heai 49,
Fxchange at auction 800 shares OF s'ocN .. ~.
pamspo Company. He paid FOR 'hese aic
-, other stocks sold by the receiver Oh ''e 'i"
-1ank the sum Of s4e for the lot ,s
VIZ, commissioner Dalton was recalieo no 'oio
~, Moss that he entered upon his duties III '''
syya.er Department with some kho" =,
sneneertng but II developed IN inc ,s.,nn
,urther examination that the only ems o,an6
r.no,,sdee he possessed was what he nao e0iHes
1rom an eight horsepower engine
h,sed in his butcher business 49,, ..,.a
"so vou are not in O position, MT MOSS a'
vto antagonize the opinions Oh We"
Engineers on water supply s.r.rant "
~ have chief engineer IN my 80 ~. AZ.
49,. Da,,on replied. upon whom rely oe
mi D" 49,, NJ R,rdsau in all these matters
sH1FTING THE BURDEN.
,, ~. p,,dsan advise you to go into the
aaamapo contract"
.rvou bs AID advise you concerning the wa a..
.rnn,v and talked about the Ramapo Oo'"pa
.1e said that we must get water SOM "a, 90.
-. go uas no other way we would nave 70 So
ri -. -" .ha pomapo Company" This was PLAINLY
ontrad,c,ion OF Mr.. Dalton's previous an'"e'
80 Mr. Birdsan had not advised IT, o..r,o,
.srvhan ala ne tell you that the Ramapo con''"''
~hou,d be entered into? -, ooursa
"I cannot say that he so advised III. 49, &, we
me would have TO get the "a'v' '''
.ou,d not get It anywhere else .. =, tho
Soua ., - od,Ise YOU before the meeting Oh ''o
,,oa-d ~ Public improvements tha' inc
contract should be made! 49, o,swer 10
~. nation would not give direct ,n,e.,r. :"
40. "I have been q member OF 'ne Ne ho,ova
Inn, .nnd although l am not lawyer - 49,
SAID me- "nO 49, ,atr here and ! want to be iaii
: ~ iv -, NAT 7 held several conversations ~,
|! va" n,-ssou about the water supply NO. - -
- =, mn, 10 me that We needed mo- soos.tv
Nlr. Birdsall, but many citizens Vi
o., an increased water supply
RE,PuDIATED BY BIRDsAl'h'
-. ners,stently endeavored to give .ne
committee the impression that nc no. ,ronosal
.,oon Mr. Birdsalrs advice IN the is'i a. p,risall
"p1" ,,,,,ate,v Mr.. Moss called for MT %" Us -
ihhu -, ~ the committee Mr.. Birdsali III 10
- 'oi' =. oo,rsel denied that he hao auN "
spoons 70 60 into the Ramapo contra ~
$50 ,hat he had not seen the contract O
,,,v os the Board OF Puohc iliPt Do,ton
,~-one &c that true?" counsei asheu W.. =, ,,as
oTt"ra might have been some nis'aN''
palton's answer ,,
: "Who had the contract
..Nr Holahan had IT. . .no charter
.Is Il not a fact that ACCORDING i" lev vou
/. contract Of this kind should oI eso"
"a no by YOU presented to the bod'u'
WHERE LAUTERBACH COMES IN
.o, nod This matter before me as far PACK as
.eoo ,ook II TO Mr. Holahan's once anu NV" ..
contract was drawn. and MI bau'e O4.' 80 .-e
- We suggested some changes IN IL "he,o
over :. u,tle loose and these were made by
a.tor counsel Whalen. He had 1t gooo
while" NJ,
o.-who has that original contract! A'-N'
1i0ianMahh d,d YOU get the engineering ADVICE &c
.nahle YOU to pass upon that CONTRACT A-rio"
MI B R, Mr B.rdsan says did not see II before
.he meeting OF the Board AIMr; BHasam %d'
there with Mr. Holahan and MI MADE" Was moi
rn owhat did YOU do to satisfy yourself that III
xnSSineerins diffcuities in the contract could bt
oVercome? Al went TO the RamaGYo watershed
rdneer was also present, and Mr.. Nostrand and Mr.
jerks. the companys engineers. Tsnt alUns s,,hor
dinate and the companys subordinates That wa
nhe engineering advice was 1t? A-On that day
o-wer how many days were you there A
0-What did you see? Al saw the watershed.
ALL WATERSHEDS ALIKE TO HIM.
Q-what did It look like? Alike any othe
QCWhy go up then? A-wen. I was told thai
we'd need water very soon. and believe now tina
~ II should be dry weather from now TIL December
we'd need water very, badly. ,,--, -. ..-,,.
1he report of the engineers
Q-The company's engineers? A.-The company
o-What did you verify? Al can't remembe
Q-What did you see in the way Of reservoirs
A.-There none built.
ANY dams? A~oh, YES. saw a dam n.'''0'
..Q-How many gallons OF water running over tn
Q-Were any of the reservoir sites four hundre
feet above tide level? A.-The engineers know;
DIN the which you gave before IN
Board Of Pubic improvements you said that yo
made this trip and gained practical knowledg
therefrom. What did you learn? Al went owe
ehe ground and saw millions of gallons Of waite
passing over the dam that we could use down here
Chow many gallons year going over the littl
dam in Bronx Park? A-Mlons. suppose-but
means millions day.
,,Q.-You say in your reasons given before III
Board that YOU fine natural sites for reservoir
How many? Al don't recall.
Q.-Two? Al don't remember
Q.-YOu say in your that the cost
building reservoirs and sluices there would be small
Who told you that? A-The engineers of the con
Vany
BADLY MIXED ON WATERSHEDS.
Q.-Haye you any reason TO suppose that the.
Reservoirs would cost less than those In our oW
system? A.-Well. the Brooklyn engineer r
ported.
Q-ls that the system on which he reported II
,tame one that you visited? Ale reported
the Ramapo system.
Odd you visit the Ramapo system last Jun,
A-The upper part Of 1t. understand. and the
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