New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-25

ns q from time
3mserFesnt val, a minute How was 4 that It
is Al could not say j" perhaps RIA soinedsns
.o-Any reason In the world for having held II at
, mat taImemcoinctdent with what? A-Wth moth
o. w 3SSs candid Hoy es you happen to
ws: iSa' A was s'afd''' with the cap
Cor the police Legislation. or. what was IT.
ISOLATION.
CONFIDENT WITH ITSELF.
o--Or the police legislation? A.-No. sir, I don't
know anything about that
Q-You don't know anything about that? A.
No. sir.
Q-Then what was 1t coincident with? A-With
that particular time. Uaughter)
Q-Oh, it was coincdent with itself? A.-That is
right, taushter)
o-what does 1t mean? Ain accordance
Q-What was It in accordance with at that meet
ins7 A.-will tell you?
Q-Certainly Ave have had discussions
Ono, what was 1t in accordance with. coinci-
dent with at that time? ,A.-To consider some of
the rules In the Police Department which have
been considered incongruous-(great laughter)-and
a 6urthen to to the sergeants 49,, .,. 49,,
FORM TO have certain rules Uniform because it has
been ascertaned that in the various inspection dis,
rules or methods Of doing things. so that when
6ergeantS were transferred from inspection dis
trct to another they found themselves handi-
capped;
Police serseanfs' Endowment and Benevolent So
ciety meant coincident with the incongruity OF the
iaughterj You can put 1t in that shape.
QIYou mean to say you formed this endowment
OF the Department? A-Yes. sir
.o-How about the laws Of the Department; had
S@S"iyt the .s S = A%onIy Re rules ,o..
M alxvay
had the benevolent; benevoence has always ex-
o-The poor are always with you? Ayes. sir.
o.-But this was larger than the benevolent. 1t
Odd that endowment have anything to do with
this consideration OF the rules and laws? A-No.
NOT MUCH IMPRESSED BY 1T.
Q.-You knew certain legislation was pending at
Albany in the spring OF this year? Ayes. sir.
Ooh. you really did? A.-Oh yes.
Q.-You knew that that legislation affected ma
terlay the Police Department in the city Of New
York. IL It should pass. didn't you? A-well, no:
wasn't duly impressed with that fact.
the force rec was as' Concerned? AoNo. sir
QWait minute Whether there s was o.
ed made no difference? A.-Made no difference.
The Chairman-Perhaps he means he didn't think
Mr. Clarke-Yes, am getting at that
sD ar as
Constabulary bill passed not. did you? Now. did
you? A.-No, not particularly 49, .
hdence grow out OF the fact that you felt sure none
OF those bills would pass? AN0 and benevolent
association formed with that end In view? A.-No
Q.NAithoush it happened to be formed in the end
of February 1888 at the TINE me oap, ahnS, the
o.@No, but you have heard Of IT. AIN the
dwell. we will assume. in this instance. the
papers told the truth because has been estinea a
P reer to here When You said concden? ANo
W f II happen happened IL on that particular date
o-Yes and you said IT was c0insdent9 A On hs
4th OF March as called for by this pink slip? Al
don't remember the date ,.o, ATbo
The Chairman-Who Kept the minutes
o."Who kept the minutes OF the first meeting at
which aH ycu b we're the e Minutes? A"Yes
Did that show the names Of the r men e. d %no
They were called by precincts. not by name.
NO COMPLETE RECORD KEPT
o-Then the roll would not show the number OF
men present or the names? A.-The NUMBER Oh
o.-Not the names? A.-Not the names.
O.-what Is the secretary's first name? A.
James Il. - ,,, .ves al
9where be? Al Police Headq 10 GSder as
president @s didn't you? Al did. =, .so ross,-
Odd you announce the purpose OF the meet
6-What did you say? AAWell ! really cou,dh 81
say now except spoke about the hecess,.S, oU ~
unior and the necessity of unity lor ing that
Witnesses and also for the purpose OF seeing .iiat
certain rules and regulations III tne sts vuere
which bore rather heavily on serseah's "e
changed. an w.
IL that every word you said? Al uoh'
know; THAT ,s the substance of every word? A
That Is ABOUT %on serious about that Sergeant? A
res yes, S shat ia ali YOU said? Ayes. .o,
ttra you quite sure? A.-Oh, l coulo nor "a!
81, n,emorv now-I could not say just now from
,nemory what did say exactly: a., -. A,,,o q sa,
M ~ II don't ask for that. Al ala not nav 'e'
snSech-it was purely extempore. u-su o1r oratorvq
O-That is what you are ior-Aoi '
A(Well don't know . 49, oxoc, words hut
n II am not talking about the exact WI ahout
III rnn whether that was all the topics dnou'
s aSh con smoke? A.-As near as can recoiec'
yes Arc Won sure Of that7 A-Wel. as near as
remember. -, ....o n ,a,ter there from an
Assemblyman IN resaiu " '
sir / have not
PAPERS THAT MAY PROVE VALUABLE
oAmongst your papers? A.-No. sir.
n The papers you have in your hand? A-No
sir 49,, -, ,rho t,
OWN you let me see those papers? CIhe WIZ
ness hands papers 10 the chalrman)
Mr. Clarke-Put up that other paper; hand that
IN "a the chairman. Did not that contain letter