New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-08-30


in succession to Colonel sandherr, as every
one knew I wished to quit the service stimuli
| taneousy with my friend Sandherr'
! Replying TO the President. Cordier declared
that the approaches OF the Dreyfus family 10
Colonel Sandherr not attempts at corrup-
ton. and that Dreyfuss brothers remark. our
! fortune Is al your disposal" was only the ex-
preston Of the family's ardent desire 10 save
! an innocent member OF H.
Witness we'll remembered hearing that Ester
hay and Henry in the Intelligence De
partment together about the year 1878. but he
added. Esterhazy had not since been employed
there. and II he had any relations with the de-
partment they must have been clandestine.
Replying TO Colonel Jouausts request to state
what he knew regarding Henrys relations with
Picouart. Cordier said that good fellowship
prevailed in the department until the appear
ance OF Henry. who had been forced on Sand
herr. Henry had close relations with the SUI
preme chief and his colleagues suspected that
he might report what he heard In the office d.
visions and what occurred in the department
Some supported Sandherr and others supported
Henry. Among the latter was Gribelin. II
was then while the division was rampant, that
the witness handed over his department to Colo
mel Picquart. Henry was much incensed at be-
ing superseded by Junior officer and resolved
to do everything to supplant him. and added
the witness the Henry forgery could have had
no other object but to ruin Colonel Picquart
with the view Of giving Henry his place.
ANSWERS TO NJ LABORI.
Maitre Labor asked the witness what he
knew In regard to the arrest Of Dreyfus and
Cordier replied that his recollections on that
point were not very definite. He found difi
Guilty in recalling the names Of those who were
present at the dictaton scene. but he was in
formed on several occasions as 10 what oc-
CURED Il remember" he declared. that one
Of the proofs advanced against Dreyfus was
that during the scene he looked IN a mirror.
That is going too far. II Dreyfus looked in the
mirror it was because he had seen another
head besides his own there. There was an ar
ranCement Of mirrors And, since It must be
told. will say It. Behind the curtain were two
ears listening. Dreyfus, therefore, might have
seen something besides his own face In the
mirror"
NJ Labor questioned the witness In regard 70
the letter mentioned in the NJ de la Roche
Vernets evidence referring TO the spy &C. c.
c." which was dispatched to the War Office at
the time Of Picquarts arrival. Cordier ex-
planned that 1t was letter from an Italian
lady with whom the Department, at that time.
was in correspondence through intermediary
at the Foreign Office
L greatly respect Italian ladies In general"
said Colonel Cordier but not when it is case
Of espionage. and | advised PcQuart not to
make too much use Of the lady's offers, saying
to him: There must he no petticoats.'
At this juncture NJ. Labori Informed the presi-
dent Of the court that he had received a tele-
gram signed Pages" announcing the dispatch
no eafaff mo-
Colonel sandherr and the Dreyfus family
Counsel said that he had himself received A
telegram as follows: L declare Colonel Sandherr
told me distinctly that neither before nor after
the conviction was an offer Of money made to
him"
Colonel Jouaust announced that he would not
read the letter because he knew nothing Of the
writer. and asked the usual question OF Drey-
fus. who remarked that ne would refer merely
10 the scene on October l.. preceding his arrest
1T was" he said. 80 fantastic that frankly
confess understood nothing connected with it
It was conducted under such conditions that
60 not know what manner Of brain could have
conceived IT. and when left the extraordinary
scene my head literally reeled so cannot re-
member the facts and details"
Major Lauth having been permitted 70 speak
said that Colonel Corder's leave Of absence be-
gan September 49, and not September %. to
which Cordler retortcd that he was much sur
prsed at contradiction on such an unim3oriant
point But nevertheless his original statement
was true Continuing the Major commented
upon Colonel Cordler's testimony especially the
statement that there were no anti-Semites on
the Headquarters STAFF. remarking that there
was one exception. and that this was Cordier
himself who was always expressing anupathy
to the Jews especially when there was ques-
ton Of introducing Dreyfus TO the department
NEVER STOPPED TO FALSE EVIDENCE
Yes" exclaimed Cordier. quite true l was
an anti-Semite, but my opinions never went to
the length Of bringing false evidence against
the Jews. l honest man. and have
conscience" Renewed exctement)
Major Lauth proceeded 10 discuss other
points. He said he himself peced the "'cette
Cananle de D." document and added that
as IT was only received at the department at
the end Of 1893 it could not be regarded
ancient He explained that the tension exist
Ing in the department was between the officers
and Colonel Cordier.
When the President asked Cordier II he de-
sired to say anything in rebuttal to Major
Lauth's statement. Cordier replied. Nothing at
all" When. however. the Major asserted. in
regard to the letter &C. c. c." that Cordier had
nothing TO do with the Italian affairs, which
Sandherr conducted Colonel Cordier rose and
said AS Deputy chief. ! acquainted with
all the work done while Major Lauth was
merely my assistant"
At this 1uncture Major Lauth handed in
letter from Nine. Sandherr contradicting Colo
ne Cordiers statements relative To the pres
ence Of Sandherr at the War once on a certain
day.
ROGET ASKS FOR PROOFS
General Roget then mounted the platform,
where his appearance caused a general stir.
lie said he would not reply 10 Colonel Corders