New-York tribune., 1899-04-11
dollar for not doing my duty in my life. defy
anybody In the country on that subject
DENIES PRIMES CHARGES.

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to get the fact as to whether you can state It.
Listen to me Is not this the first time that you
have In court before the Police Com''s-
sioners and on trial denied that accusation that
Prime made years ago? Al am denying " pun
| licly now. b
| Q.-Is not this the frst time that you have de-
MED Charles Primes charge in public or before
commission? Al have never been questioned on
oHYou We're charged with il before Commis-
soneT Martin and Others ana you w were formal wsy
| like this? Al went TO the same school with you.
Mr. Moss. and l was learned TO mind my own
The chairman-were you ever asked that aues-
tion? A.-Never asked that before
Mr.. Moss-You mean that you were charged with
II, and at that time you captain OF police and
subsequently promoted. Do you mean TO say now
nial before a public tribunal? A-This is the first
time have ever been called on TO do so.
| Q-1t is the first time you denied It? A
Yes Yes and and emphaticaIly. too
| ne not A-fes, you can get your living ones now.
| 81 suppose We can, I have doubt of 1t.
Prime Is dead 1t is perfectly safe. after lapse
9l several years, 10 deny that accusation now. A
lou lou nave got live names that you have mentioned
Mr. Hofrman-Are you reading from the evidence
given i've, on that trial?
MI Moss-I am reading extract from the evil
Mr. Mr. H%onman-From % a newspaper?
,,irnist rI tMoss.ie es, from a newspaper. but l will
| compare it. " ' ~ "
81 suppose you deny that statement that Miss
| Q-Isnt this the first time that you ever denied
years ago? A.-The same This is the first time
l 5ave ever been questioned about it.
these matters tiers when you were advanced from cap
tam tam 10 Chlef OF Police in three months? Al
| Q-That is what thought. A-You never spoke
those matters. l was acting captain of police
| under you.
PERSONAL "REMINISCENCES.
Q--You had precinct on the west side Of
Harlem. One-hundred- and twenty -sixth-st while
was in the Police Board nine months did you not /?
| Ayes
Q.-And you had me under a stay of proceedings
which you got yourself? A.-There were other
Commissioners in the Board prior to that.
Q-Now that we are talking about ourselves. in
all the time that you remained there captain in
the West Harlem precinct. Commissioner Moss
called me TO his office; never had any occasion to.
And never With VEN you and left
entirely to your own way. did he not? Al must
o-T win say here Chief Devefy. that you had
| the good sense. the good judgment and wisdom TO
while / was Police Commissioner so that they
could not be questioned. Al glad to see that
,Q.-I will say this. while are engaged In this
| discussion. that you might have stayed there. so
far as was concerned for all that had happened
| IN the past twenty years and been content 10 re-
main captain of police. restored by the Supreme
| would never have interfered with YOU but when
men are jumped over the heads of others. ad-
| Vanced from captaincy to chieftanshp I'm three
months. they must carry the responsibilities OF that
position. They bring their records up anew them
| selves Al am here 10 answer anything touch
| ing on that record.
Q.-Do you remember that Rhoda Sanford testi-
fed about her payment Of $500 to your wardman? :?
A.-No. don't remember that.
fore until today? GGNever had any Occasion % TO-.
Q-Had you no occasion to explain that matter
to the Commissioners who recently advanced you?
| Al was not questioned about it,
Ono, you were not questioned, and OF course. Il
/ fqn h1f M mast IN
| Now. Chief want TO ask you plain straight
forward question: Do you know why it was that
| with all that had occurred IN the past which was
unexplained. undenied. because You had on
in the past you should have been suddenly jumped
| from capiaincy 10 the chieftancy In three
| il so? How did it occur? A-Because that / was
| capable officer and could fulfil the position. and
| that have got clean record in the Police De-
partment.
HE HAS HIS OWN ENDORSEMENT.
Q.-Who told you it was clean record? Any
self just now. to your answer; never gave it A
| thought before
Q.-When you promoted from captain TO
| Inspector did you irtend to endeavor to become
| chief of police? Any intention certainly
| bent that way.
Q.-Before you made inspector. did you
intend to try to be Chief? Al would have. II
| opportunity permitted il.
Q.-Well you intended II. did you not? Any
line has always been to go from the bottom to the
| top.
|
| intentions at that time I don't remember.
Q.-Is it not true that while you were still a
| captain you began to consider ways by which you
| might become the Chief? Al don't remember;
o~But YOU have Just testified that as soon as
you went from captain to inspector you began 10 10
intention. always TO go from the bottom TO the
Q.-How did you expect to pass the Civil Service
examinations between captain and Chief? Any
chances the any officer in the Police
Odd YOU really expect TO take examina tons
and pass p Pd eHPf bsard thsf m
| could certainly hold my end. perhaps as good as
0DBut did you expect to take an examination
| A~Nell / cant say under this law.
sse verY al" clearly by that answer il wouldn't be
necessary for me to take an examination
Q-Then you began 10 see clearly there was
wsy you could work up without an examination
oion oAt the time you had begun in your mind to
work toward the cheftainshp it was filled by an
ot9eI GLOW 1S did YOU expect to dsplace that other
man and get into his place. Al had no h'eh'
GLOW did YOU expect to get it and leave ht him
in it. A.-Well. to be frank about that. Mr. Mo MOSS
for his piace and I told him that he was ve:y
foolish that It was no tnteht0n d OF e e nlorr
Now said Il have got no idea and ,brs am ser,5 po
ing you T y6 be wheTe YOU are
| says don't lose your head. Now. | says, mat
eer rs .ne spoken To- person touching on the matter
Of your place" Which l did not and had no inten;
| ton or getting Ms Piacr a. '"'' 'N' ~ '
| like 10 see him there to-doy.
orYou had the ambition to be Chief? A-Cer-
| talny. ,,, 49, o,, r,or. roodo
| ar insnector and there was some little time thet
| elapsed between the inspectorship and ChlettanCy
d%ring which time Mr.. McCulagh Occupied the
higher position. You said you had that ambition
A-At all times. PROMOTION advancemen. , nrrd ooros
| Without the retirement OF the incumbent? A-WeH,
| was waiting for that time 10 come ana 'neh '@Ae
| my chance. ...uL. a. r,tob, ooroe
| didn't YOU? A.-Some day.
.nMrrs FRIENDSHIP FOR CROKER
o.-Whom did you talk with about your pros
| oocts NJ promotion, Al cannot remember who
! l talked with. go -
o.-Have you ever in your life talked with Mr.