The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1899-10-17
METHODISTS IN A FURRY.
ORTHODOX ADDRESS IRoUSES FEEL
ING AT MINISTER'S MEETING.

Very Warm Discussion Follows the Speech
of tho Rev. DIR. j. ID. Bush of New
Mexico on the Importance of the ONCE
of the Holy Spirit in the Preparation
of Ministers for their Lifo Work
At Yesterdays meeting OF the Methodist
ministers the Rev. DR.. j. d. Bush. missionary
for the Methodist Church South. laborng in
New Mexico. made the address OF the morning.
in which he emphasized the Importance OF the
once OF the Holy Spirit In preparing the min
lister for his life work and in helping the min
lister to prepare his sermon. He said that no
school OF men could teach other men how to
preach. 1T Ia only the Holy Spirit" he de-
clnred. through the grace Of God. that can
teach men how to preach" The address was
very orthodox and evangelical a plea for
Methodsm and Methodist forms OF former
days
The Rev P. II. Waters. pastor OF Grace
Church. took exception to the New MeIican's
remarks. He also criticized ministers for pes
simism. Conditions OF to- day, he said. require
men OF education in order to meet questions
constantly coming up in reference to Bible
doctrines. This reference to Bible doctrines
aroused interest in twinkling. and ministers
who had been uttering "amens" to the New
Mexico missionarys exhortations became
silent Prof PERTH OF Syracuse University
urged more liberal scholarship and disapproved
the trend OF the discussion. At this point the
Rev W. H. Lawrence. who has charge OF the
programme OF speakers, jumpedto his feet and
shouted:
Mr.. Moderator. these discussions are going
on Just as they have been. We don't propose
to have any destructive teaching here. We
have had too much Of 1t in tho past"
Question" called out the Rev. d.. s. Parkes
Cadman.
Il have been misrepresented in a way that
consider an insult to any intelligence. and
Mant to explain my position. said the Rev. Mr..
Take it to the Lord in prayer" shouted Mr..
Thank you" responded Mr.. Waters. II
will take the suggestion OF the brother. My
position Is Just this To raise people up to a
high standard by encouragement. not by pes
dozen men tried to speak. but the Rev. DR..
Cadman secured the floor. and going to the plat
form. said There is no doubt that there are
attitudes are not beneficial to the advance
ment Of the cause all Of us have at heart.
Herbert Spencer who says that life CORE
spends to environment and we must conduct
are not M1' entitled to SPEAK The Church has got
serve ths re aioas ii,o. The intellectual Side
y DR.. Gadman was followed by the Rev c: s.
dresses on the old faith was plea for emotion
| alism he opposed it. 'Emotionalism is not
| succeeding nowadays. Look at tina Salvation
Army, and its emotional methods here and
| elsewhere. Is it succeedng?'
Mr. Lawrence. OF the programme committee.
| offered a resolution thanking the Rev. Drs
| Wilton Merle Smith and John Balcom shaw
| Presbyterians. who spoke at the committee's
| invitation two weeks ago. The resolution in
| Guided q communication to the newspapers
| which expressed regret that the Rev. DR., Shaw
| had been misGuoted when he said minister
or many OF them. led double lives and were
| often II miserable lot generally.
| This moment the resolution and the criticism
| OF the newspaper report OF Dr. Shaws remarks
were concluded the Rev. DR., A.. B. sanford.
assistant editor OF the Methodist Rerie,r. said
Il am not in favor Of the motion. | don't be-
| lieve in defending and thanking a man who
speaks uniting words. even II invited to
| speak to us here. and even II he does come
| from another demon nation"
At this there was a stir throughout the room.
| Several shouted that DIR. shaw had been nit J.
quoted, while half a dozen others managed to
| get in statements to the effect that they were
| present and heard the Pres byteran say what
| the newspapers had reported.
| Mr.. Lawrence insisted that some action be
| taken on the resolution. but there was opposi-
| tion and tho Moderator declared the meeting
| adjourned. as the time had expired.