The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-28

thing of it at that timer" referring tc
shaking hands. No. L didn't at that
time?"
You didn't think anything about it!
1 did not to any extent.
Why was it it struck you peculiar:
Because it did.
You were asked the direct question
before, and you said you didn't think
anything about that? Do you think
you would shake hands with a man
that would shake hands with you that
way. and then follow it up the same
day with these charges, that you
wouldn't remember it?
And didn't you further say that, u
have shaken hands myself that way.
sometimes having something in my
hand? Yes, sir.
You didn't have any idea until you
heard this-now, as a matter OF fact
you didn't think anything of it at that
time at all. did you? Not particularly
And never would have thought of II
if il had not been for this charge!
don't think I would have ever thought
| of it again.
But who put that into your mind af-
ter this charge was made? ON, better
give me something easier-about who
put it into my mind.
That is difficult to answer, is it? Yes,
very difficult-in keeping with your
question of why didn't I give him a
hundred instead of eighty.
Have you any contract or arrange
ment with Mr. r. c. Chambers by
which you were to take The Salt Lake
Herald in the event OF your election!
No. sir
None whatever? None whatever.
Have you had any talk with him
about it? Yes, sir-about The Herald,
10 osvsn.l
deal of talk with him about The Herald.
And have you arranged with him that
you were going to take that paper
Did 1 answer these questions-this line?
Mr.. Dickson-The committee desire
to hear it. Do you claim Mr.. Cham
bers has been bribed?
The Witness-That is the insinuation,
1 presume.
| Mr.. Dickson-The innuendo.
Mr.. Evans-This is the witness upon
the stand and he is subject to a wide
| scope of cross-examinatiOn-
Mr.. Dickson-Go ahead.
Mr.. Chambers is my partner in a
! great many enterprises and among
| others, The Herald.
And have you agreed with him that
you would take this Herald off his
| hands? l don't think it is any of your
| business, yet l can answer that queS-
! ton that 1 have not.
Have you agreed with him to take
any portion of it off his hands? I may
have agreed to that.
| Well, haven't you? No, sir; I have
| not.
Haven't you agreed with him to take
any portion of it off his hands? Yes,
! sir.
| Well, what agreement did you make
with him? 1 don't think it is any of
your business; l don't propose to venti-
| late my private business affairs for
| your curiosity.
! Don't you? Not unless the committee
insists on it; if the committee wants
those questions answered L will answer.
| Had you made this agreement since
Mr.. Chambers was elected senator?
Yes; Mr.. Chambers was elected two
years ago.
You have made it since? Yes, sir.
You knew at that time he was a state
senator, didn't you? Yes, sir; perfect
ly well.
You knew. likewise, that you were
going to become a candidate for the
senate? Yes. sir.
Aren't you paying the expenses of
The Herald today? Yes. sir; 1 am pay
ing whatever it runs behind.
Aren't you the only individual that
is paying the losses of The Herald to-
day?
Mr.. Dickson-I object to that.
Yes, sir.
And yet you do not own as much in
that as Mr.. Chambers do you? That
is none of your business as [ said.
ar. Dickson-Wait, wait, wait. If
you will be good enough and courte-
Gus enough. Are you going to investi-
gate The Herald here too. as to
whether it is a financial success or not?
EVANS ASSAILS CHAMBERS.
Mr. Evans-No, sir; that is not the
purpose; here is Mr.. Chambers who is
a state senator. elected two years ago;
he is serving in this legislature; Mr..
AIcCEne is a, candidate for the senate of
the United States; the inference can be
properly drawn that if he has entered
into any business relations with Mr.
Chambers by which Mr.. Chambers vote
would be influenced. it would be a pro-
per sui ject of inquiry.
The Witness would like to make
statement, just one moment, to the
committee; I have a contract with Mr.
Chambers if the committee wishes it,
seeing it is casting an aspersiOn on an
old friend and partner of mine, l will
bring it here and show it to the COM
mittee.
MI Van Cott-I will object TO it even
if you are willing to show it.
Mr. Evans-We think il is proper and
will call for it and offer 1t in evidence.
Mr. Van Cott-We withdraw the OBJ
lection.
Have you that contract, Mr.. McCune?
Yes, sir.
Can you furnish it? Yes, sir.
And will do so? 1 don't know whether
l Will or not.
I wish you would answer one way or
the other? I viii take the advice of my
counsel on that; I offer to furnish it for
the committee. but ! would refuse to
furnish it to you unless my counsel
advise me TO do so.
And you have entered into a contract
with him by which you agreed to pay
the losses for him? No. sir: not TO pay
the losses or anything else: it is TO
make the paper a success; / have gone
into partnership with him virtually on
the paper.
Mr.. Van Cott-Is the contract in writ
ing? Yes.
3Ir. Evans-Didnt you say that the
contract provided that you individually
were TO pay the losses?
Mr. Van COtt-We object to that, as
the contract is the best evidence of
what is in it.
Mr.. Evans-The contract is in your
possession?
Mr.. Van Cott-I didn't say so.
Mr.. Evans-In the possession of Mr.
McCune?
Mr.. Van Cott-I suppose SO.
Mr. Evans-I will stop along on those
lines, and l will ask for the contract,
and that it be produced here at 2:SO
this afternoon.
Have you ever loaned any member
of the legislature any money? No, sir
Never in your life? Oh, in my life,
yes, possibly l have. and yet I couldn't
say: l would have TO think it over. 1
have loaned SO many people money, 1