Santa Fe new Mexican. [volume] (Santa Fe, N.M.) 1898-1951, 1899-12-26

consented to stay in the capital until
in the afternoon. Governor Otero, Judge
McFie, Hon. H. o. Bursum. r. l.. Baca
accompanied the party to Albuquerque,
where the visitors were taken around
the city in coaches and afterward given
a reception at the Commercial lub
They left last evening on a special train
for Ash Fork, Prescott and Phoenix,
Ariz., where, especially at the latter
place, grand receptions will be rendered
them. Governor Otero, Judge McFie,
Hon. H. O. Bursum, and r. L. Baca re-
turned home this noon.
The visitors, being on a trip that was
partly official, were reluctant to speak
for publication before they made their
report.
OPINIONS OF VISITORS.
Commissioner Hermann, who Won the
friendship of every one whom he met by
his frank cordially and evident SINGER
ity, could not speak too highly OF New
Mexico and it's people. He said that
his was the first time in his long mar
ried! life hat he had spent Christmas
away from his family. But despite their
protests he came here, for he thought
50 much of the territory that he de-
cided to investigate a number of mat
tiers of importance to New Mexico by
coming when this opportunity offered
itself. Mr.. Hermann Is strong in his ex-
pressions in favor of statehood for the
territories of New Mexico and Arizona.
He had a long conference with Solicitor
General Bartlett and Special Agent
Max Pracht, who comes from the same
state and is a personal and political
friend of Mr.. Hermann, respecting the
Fort Marcy reservation, and according
to Mr.. Pracht the commissioner is in
clined to recommend hal the reserva-
ton be given to the city.
Mr.. Hermann spoke ~guardedly about
the forest reserve and grazing ques-
tons. He conferred with various Off
Gals on the subject while here, and is
inclined to recommend that at certain
seasons of the year sheep be allowed to
Craze on the reserves. After talking
with Special Agent Max. Pracht, who
has made the subject a study, and 9th
ers, he felt convinced that grazing sheep
is a benefit to the forest reserves, but
that grazing goats is harmful to trees.
Mr., Hermann also spoke of the great
work the court of private land claims is
doing for the territories, and congratu-
lated the representatives of the court
upon the Roadway being made in set
Ting the vexed question Of land grants.
Commissioner Hermann said that
where efforts are being made to create
reservations Upon which timber Is of no
Importance, they will meet with his OPP
position. He believed that in forests of
large pine, pinon and evergreens the
growth could not be injured by sheep.
and said that upon proper showing
grazing privileges at certain times of
emergency may yet be allowed to
sheep, although in the case of goats
there is damage to young growth of
these varieties of timber, which the ami
mails destroy.
PLEASED WITH NEW MEXICO.
Senator Shoup, chairman of the SEN
ate committee on territories, said that
whenever he could do anything for the
territories he would do it, for he knows
that they never ask for anything IN
reasonable. He wished that the eastern
senators had accepted his invitation to
accompany him, for then they could
have seen with their own eye and
heard with their own ears that intelli-
gence, progress, prosperity and patriot
ism are to be found In New Mexico the
same as in any other state, and that
no valid reason exists why the terrific
ries should not be given statehood. Sem
ator Shoup was a governor Of Idaho
when it was a territory, and he said he
knew therefore what an injustice and
what a hardship a territorial form of
triotic people. He saw campaigning in
New Mexico back in 1863, as a soldier.
and Is therefore NO stranger to the ter
ritory, although he was astonished to
see the progress made since then. In
Senator Shoup's opinions the house of
representatives will favor statehood for
the territories, and the only opposition
to it will develop in the senate, although
there, too, the western senators and
Of the eastern senators will vote
In favor Of it. AS far as the chairman
of the senate territorial committee Is
concerned, he makes no secret that he is |
heartily in favor of statehood for the
territories, and will work hard therefor.
Senator Clark said that he thought
territories mo good" that he was tired
Of territories, and therefore will WORK
might and main to abolish that anon
form of government. He thought
territory like q young man of age,
who wants to vote and get married; he
be allowed to do SO, and a terri
tory should be allowed to become a
state as soon as it's people want to
shoulder the responsibilities and bur
dens of statehood. He said that only a
hours of travel from any part of
New Mexico takes a mar to Colorado,
where a residence Of six months would
make him a full-fledged citizen with all
the privileges of citizenship. There is
certainly no logic in making any differ
in the political right of American
people only a half days journey apart,
thought. Senator Clark promised to
continue to work for the territories as
ne understood the politics and other
,onditins in the territory thoroughly.
General Ainsworth, who is an old In
campaigner, said that New Mexico
ought to have had statehood long ago.
He lived in New Mexico a number Of
Iears, and knows it's people well. He
vas full Of "reminiscences of the Indian
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