The San Francisco call., 1899-01-24
INVESTIGATION
Remarkable PauCity Of Information Obtained From Those
Who Are Generally Supposed to Know Most
About the Senatorial Eight


.. was there anything said TO Mr.. Jill
ator?
A. Well, 1 told him that he was a friend
OF mine: that is all. He never pledged
himself to vote for anybody, nor l did not
ask him to-, s-~
A. That4is Siskiyou.
Q. Do you remember the amount YOU
put into other counties?
A. oh, | do not know the amount, be-
cause L did, not put, in any particular
amount. l sent men up there election
time-a day or two before election-to do
little work. They did not have any mon
ey. OF course, the other hundred dollars
l spent travelling around myself in ex-
penses.
Mr.. Sanford-Did Jilson take the S4OO?
A. He took the $400
Mr.. Burnett-As to Mr.. Clough-have
you a copy of your letter to him.
A. have not. L did not Keep any copy.
@ Have you Mr.. Clough's letter to you?
a. No, sir.
O. Mr. Clough, in his testimony, in Civ
ing the substance of the letter to you, as
sumably according to or from your letter
that is from his memory?
O. Now if you are in favor of Ulysses
S. Grant for Senator this is Judge
Cloughs explanation of your letter, or
rather quoting it from memory-'now if
you are in favor of Ulysses S. Grant for
Senator, you can have whatever amount
you require in order to make your cam
Vass.' Do you remember writing that?
a. That is correct. That is correct.
The chairTnan-In providing this money
to Mr. Jilson, did you instruct him to use
it in such manner as to pledge anybody's
influence for Mr.. Grant?
A. Not the least in the world.
@. What instructions, if any, did you
give him with reference to the use of the
money?
A. Well. just stated. 1 will state it
again, however. To use the money-of
course, if he needed little himself, why,
he could use it, but, otherwise, he could
use the balance of it for the State ticket,
as l have stated before. OF course, we
did not know then that we were going to
have a landslide in this State, and we
nor and the ticket; and the vote shows
up there that it did some good.
Mr. La Baree-Mr. Cole, you say, you
sent some money, or did l understand you
to say that you sent some money into Te-
hama County?
A Sent a man there No: I did not
send any money; not a dollar there. L
sent man.
The chairman-That is not clear Mr..
Cole. You sometimes say you sent a man
and sometimes sent money.
A. l did not send any money by him at
all. I bought him ticket and sent him
up there.
ers with money? They had to have some
A. do not know; I did not furnish it.
Q. You just gave them the transporta-
A. Yes, sir.
pass?
A No. sir; ticket
@. You haven't any idea who paid them?
A. No. He was man that was interested
UP there, you know; lived there and voted
at that place. You know he lived there.
1t was not an outsider-it was voter.
O. Now, as 1 understand it, in this case
of Clough, you said, Now, if you are in
favor of U. s. Grant for Senator, you can
10 VHrhp q q U rpnIIfTn in nr-
der to make your canvass" Now in the
case of Mr.. Jilson, you gave him four hun
dred dollars. You made this condition in
the case of Clough. Did you not make
some such condition in the case of jill
son?
A. No, sir. I told him that 1 was a
friend of his and would like to see him
9. Well, now, it was Grants money, was
it not?
not.
Q. Well, it had come from Milton Green?
Q. And knowing it was Milton Green's
money-the money that Milton Green gave
you-you took it and used it to try and
elect, you say, Railroad Commissioner,
Mr.. Edison, up there?
Q. And these other officers. Was it
given to you for that purpose?
A. Well, it was, given to me by, Mr..
and he knew if the ticket was elected and
the money was put into the general cleo
ton, that it would help him up there as
well.
O. Then why did you pick out this man
and that man? Why did not you say:
I'VE will give it to the County Central
Il up t6eFe re 6a Of TINS and
A. Well, 1 knew this way: I have
known Jilson for many years, and knew
he knew everybody up in that country,
and 1 thought he was the proper man to
take hold Of it and handle the money
@. Why did you pick out this man and
that man on the ticket and say, Help
them?"
a. Because I thought they were the
only men that were in danger. l knew
that Van Fleet had hard fight, and the
Governor; l knew the balance of the
ticket would be elected, but 1 was afraid
of our Governor at that time.
Q. Was $500 the total amount that you
A. Total amount. Never another dollar.
Q. You had some hundred dollars to buy
these tickets with?
Q. After the s4oO had been expended?
8: You just had 800 to buy these tickets
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you went on a trip with Mr.
Grant, did you not?
Q. Then you must have had money be-
fore that had you not?
A. No. sir; not a dollar.
@. Did he pay all your expenses?
A. He paid my hotel expenses.
Q. Then mat money was furnished out
side of this $500?
A. 1t was not furnished at all. did not
furnish It,
q. mean he paid those bills outside
of that.
A. He paid those bills. He wanted me
20 take him around the State and intro
duce him, and / did.
Q. What did you do on this trip around?
A. 1 just introduced him; that is all 1
did
Q. Did you try to pledge candidate to
him?
A. dc. not tninA there. was any candi-
date in the field at this time
@. ANY possible candidates?
A. No. / never saw any candidate or
talked with them about it. But | intro
duced hlm to the people so they could see
whether they liked him or not.
@. Did not you write some similar let
ter to the one that -ou wrote to Clough
TO some other candidate?
A. No. sir; not a scratch of a pen.