New-York tribune., 1899-05-18
THURSDAY,
MAY 18, 1899.

law.
o-I understood that your sster;in-law had :
that poolroom? Ayes
Odd she? Al think so.
Q-Were you present? Al was not present.
Gas you understand, that conversation was
with reference 10 the poolroom? Ayes, II was.
Q.-And the return Of the money that you had
Q-Hsd with an officer? Ayes. She had como
from the station-house where she made the com:
plant and some officer followed her and stopped
She had made the remark that she was going to
Headquarters. and this officer said: Don't be 80
nasty We VIII settle this matter in the evening.
Q-I don't care TO have you detail that hearsay
conversation and agree that IL shall not be taken
as direct evidence but want 10 get the address OF
your sister. want her here witness Of that
particular matter. Be kind enough 10 send her ad-
dress 70 NE and allow me 10 subpoena her.
Mr.: Hofman-An these proceedings you have mar
rated mere occurred before THIS justice or dd tney
come before any other Justice? A-This last COM
Mr. Moss-Do understand that you were before
any other Magistrate at any time? Al was ~
one time.
the complaint before that l was before Judge Kud-
Itch.
Q-What occurred there7 Al told him about
the poolroom. and he said that must get some
body TO corroborate my statement otherwise he
would not issue warrant - .-
Cross and had officers Pott and Mccarthy. you
rad your brother as a cOrroborator? A-Yes.
DISGRACEFUL POLICE INACTIVITY.
Mr. Moss-I think | should state the object Of this
kind OF testimony. / propose TO introduce con-
OF IL Elkut mere, ana may uoI
be apparent unless show Il. The Chief OF Police
has been nterrogated very closely concerning pool
rooms. concerning his knowledge Of the existence
or poolrooms, and his actions as directed against
has absolutely no knowledge and shows no personal
action concerning these matters. The evidence
cipaHy that the great upheaval in the Police De-
partment. which took place a few months ago and
and the of its beginning a controversy
about poolroom. The Chief OF Police and vari-
with Mr. Farrell and the Chief testified that Mr.
Farrell was his bondsman in the where he
denied any knowledge himself OF Farrell keeping
poolroom The testimony yesterday showed that
chief and his immediate inspector, TO raid that
particular poolroom and the testimony showed,
without attempting to sum II UP. what that officer
did and the dflculty that he had. and the poll
ucians that came in and took an interest IN that
particular matter. Then the records. as shown by
the testimony OF the Commissioners and the other
the Board Of Police the unprecedented resolution
to transfer the simple policeman. and the coming
down OF persons OF more less influence to take
interest In that matter The matters connected
Captain Herhy. the testimony OF the Chief
yersations between the Chief and the president Of
the Board OF Police all directed 10 the danger
that the Chief OF Police stood In II he maintained
his disposition TO attack the poolrOoms. The pool
room. the gambling issue, Is the issue underneath
claim. upon the testimony already adduced and
It Is Impossible TO believe that these gentlemen are
ignorant OF the existence OF these poOlrooms. and It
IS impossible to believe that the extraordinary
tivity connected with Patrolman Mcconnell and
Captain Herlihy and the removal OF Chief McCu-
lagh are explicabe upon any ordinary theory. but
they came out OF. belonged 70 and connected
with this great pooroom Industry at the head Of
which is man who has associates that have al
ready been admitted the stand think that IL
is fair thing to claim upon this testimony and
what | am going 10 adduce. that u was the efforts
Of the Chief of Police against poolrooms primarily
that caused his enforced retirement from the po-
lice force. Now IL has been said. and well said.
by persons who taking interest in this In
vestigat ton that 10 make charges and insinuations
and 10 direct questions without tangible proof be-
hind them will be In the long run fruitless: and so
shall take your time for while to show you that
these poolrooms exist. and that they have been
existing and running a large & number OF them:
such way that It is impossible that any Chief OF
Police who is able 10 do anything. should not
thing against them. unless the powerful interests
behind them are the interests which ! charge to
be upon the testimony that has been adduced.
OsULLIvAN TRIES PALLIATIoN.
Mr.. sullivan-May be permitted to say .
word?
Mr. Moss-Yes. sir
Mr.. O'sulIivan-It is very embarrassing. Mr..
Chairman not 10 be permitted 10 go into some of
the matters Mr Moss has been summing up here.
The Chairman-You will have an opportunity to
Mr.. O'sullivan-What is your name? A-Philip
Cohen.
Q-What is your business? A-clothing manu-
Q~What portion Of the day do you give to your
regular business Al cOuld not eNdClly stdtes
Q-And you earn remuneratve wages? A.-well.
It is according; sometimes more. other times less
Q-But a matter OF $500 that you lost in gam
bling. would not affect you seriously would II? A
No sir.
Q-So you make good. remunerative wages? A.
Well quite enough 20 be able 10 put little aside.
Q-Do you intend TO discontinue gamonng Is II
We'll. don't say. have been 10 the races quite
often for a little amusement and psstine not TO
say that I a gambler.
0 But you have gambed on the races. A.
Well. everybody that goes 10 the racetrack has. /
Q-I speaking Of yourself? A.-If you call It
Q-You have gambled for number OF years.
have you not? A-No, sir. have not gambled.
Q-WeH you have bet on the races? A.-Well,
that is a different thing. don't call that gam
bling -.,,.
0-You have bet or the races for number OF
years? A-Wel. few years, yes, sir. have.
Judge Kudlch? "A few months back. could
not very we'll state the exact time 49,. =.
Q.-About two months ago? A-Oh, / believe IL
Is o~A year year ago? A-No I don't think It Is .
year 1t Is far back as that.
WANTS POOLROoMs SHUT UP
Q.-was the object of your complaint to shut up
this poolroom that you complained OF? A-To
shut up all poorooms would like 10 see.
$50 that you could not be permitted 10 bet on
the races? A-So II I wanted TO bef on the races
would have TO go direct 20 the racetrack. and not
have anybody imposing on me
that appealed 10 you? A.-Sir?
Q-It was the moral feature or the betting
that appealed TO you-you did regard IL as inn
moral 10 bet the races? A.-No, sir.
Odd Judge kudlich do anything In conse-
quence Of your complaint? Ale said that N
would bring a witness 10 corroborate my state
ment ne would issue warrant.
ON the recent matter that you brought
before Judge Wentworth. what did he omit 10 do
in irving to arrest the persons that you complained
OF? Al couldn't very well state that. don't
understand what way you mean.
q Effort was made arrest the people that
yoii complained or An officer with a warrant was
sent there was ne not? A-To arrest one man,
and not TO close up the pooroom. not TO arrest al
connected with H. -.
O-Aa understand IT, when you went there the
poolroonn was closed up? Alt not closed up;
they had the doors locked.
O.-What would you call closed up, then? A.
That is II any body going in; but saw people
O-How is IL you were not able 20 go In and outf
A-Because they saw the officer along WITH me-
and wouldn't admit us -,
O-Have you ever been in there sinceI Al
have not been IN there, but Know numoer ot
people have been In there.
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