The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01


any such statement.
In effect, didn't he make such a
statement Not that / remember
You don't remember / know that /
have said that l did not think an cleo
ton should take place until after this
investigation, and that i'll thought my
vote would elect Mr.. McCune, would
withhold it until after this investiga-
ton.
That was your idea? Yes, sir.
Now bishop, in view of the fact that
you did not want an election. pending
this investigation, as an act of pro-
priety, would there have been anything
to prevent you from declining to vote
and making an explanation on the floor
of the house that you declined to vote
on the question, pending this investiga-
change | would make would prejudice
Mir. McCune's case and would Indicate
that l believed him guilty.
You are very friendly to Mr.. McCune,
are you not? Yes, sir; always have
been.
Always have been, and have business
relations with him? Yes.
And you feel that you can sit in this
committee as a fair and impartial Judge
and determine the question, irrespective
of any friendship or without bias or
prejudice in any manner. and render q
fair and impartial report? / think |
can.
NOT PREJUDICED.
Are you not prejudiced in favor of
Mr.. McCune in this investigation? No.
sir.
You are not? No, sir.
You have no inclinations that way
at all? Inclinations toward him?
Mr.. Van Cott--Do you mean now or
when he started?
Mr.. Evans-Well / will say when he
started first? My feelings for Mr.. Me-
Cune have undergone no change what
ever, one way or another.
They are just the same now as they
were when you started in the investiga-
ton?
Mr.. Dickson-I think this is most
improper line of investigation.
Mr. Evars-If you object to it
Mr.. Dickson-Is it necessary to OBJ
ject to prevent improper matter being
MI. Evans-No; I will cease right
here.
(Argued by counsel)
The Witness-I foresaw this sus-
picion that l would be partial because
of my friendship for Mr.. McCune, and
1 reluctantly accepted this election to
this committee. / would gladly have
been excused, but somebody had to do
it, and l accepted it in order to dis
charge public duty, as l stated at
the time.
Questions by Mr.. Evans:
Well. by permission of counsel,
would ask you this question: Haven't
you made some investigation or re-
ceived some evidence outside of the
sworn testimony before the commit
tee? l think know to what you refer
l;.,.-
the Hughes testimony, do you not?
Yes, sir; was it Hughes-no; WINS, L
think. 1 stated that l thought it was
unjust to send the Hughes statement
out through the press and then deny
Mr.. WINS the chance to answer it, for
1 understood that WINS would greatly
modify the Hughes statement; was 1t
not that?
Didn't you state that you understood
from a perfectly reliable SOURCE
What / considered reliable.
That Mr.. WINS would make state
ment which would modify the testi-
mony of Hughes? Yes, sir.
But you received that information
outside of the committee? Yes sir
And it was not under oath? l re-
ceived it from a man who had been
under oath, who had testified here.
But it was outside Of the committee?
Yes, sir.
Who was it? 1t was Mr. WINS. As
we walked up the street, he complained
OF the ruling of the committee that
barred him out, and he said he could
have swept Hughes testimony out of
existence. 1 put it in a very conserva-
tive form when 1 said he would have
greatly modified it,
Then you did talk with a witness who
had been sworn here, and got his state
ments outside of the committee
room? He volunteered the statement
to me as we walked up the street
And you listened to it and did not
chastise him fer talking to you? Why
not? He didn't chastise me, either, for
listening to it.
MANSFIELD DEFINES HIS POSI-
TON
Mr. Mansfield just desire to make n
statement in regard to my position for
voting for Mr.. McCune----
Air. Whitney-Mr. Chairman and
gentlemen, Mr.. Wins made that same
statement right here in the presence of
Mr. Cummings and others of the COM
mittee, right by that chair. that he
once made to me up the street.
Mr. Mansfield just desire to say
this much, that l have been supporting
Mr.. McCune for some time in the vot-
ing, and when this charge was pre-
ferred L announced my position upon
the floor of the house, the ballot that
was taken Immediately after. stating
that ! then had confidence, or | had
had full confidence, in Mr.. McCune's
honesty and fidelity in the matter, and
must give him the benefit of the doubt
until the thing was investigated and
determined. l did think at one time
that / would excuse myself from vot-
ing, but L did not see any necessity for
that, after stating my position. | wish
to say l have no bias or prejudice for
or against him. and While some will
criticise my action, it was done III that
light.
Mr.. Dickson-It is fact that other
members of the committee have been
voting against him?
MI. Mansfield-Oh, yes.
Hugh Cannon. being sworn as wit
ness in behalf OF the complainant. tes-
titled as follows: Examined by Mr..
Evans:
Mr.. Cannon, you are a resident of
Salt Lake? Yes, sir.
And likewise the manager of George
@. Cannon & Sons Publishing COM
Dany? Yes, sir.
Did you enter into a contract with
Mr.. Whitney by which he WAS to write
the fourth volume of the history of
Utah? Yes. sir.
l viii ask You to state whether this
contract provided for his compensa-
ton and of what character?
Mr.. Dichson-We object to it as ut
terly irrelevant and immateriHl; it is
collateral matter to the matter being
by this committee.
Was he in any matter authorized to
receive any money outside of the COM
pensation which you paid him for that
history?
MIR. Dickson-We object to it as in
The Chairrnan-The objection is sus-
tanned, unless 1 am ovei.ruled by the
committee.
Did you know or did you have any