New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-11-02

our o in nv, own business and the other mem
one great deal OF business must go which IS
conducted by one member. arc about wncn , ul-
less there is consultations the o'her members
know nothing
HOFFMAN'S LAST RESORT.
.tIave YOU any objection 10 stating IN what firm
or corporation organized outside the state Of New
York YOU hold stock
well now" said General Tracy after pause
docs this committee really think II Is proper 10
put such "a question to me-:
81 90 not advise that the committee should
press for an answer" Mr.. Moss remarked
II shall not decline to answer any question pn
IN me- but do think that this committee has
gone and IS going far beyond its power in asking
me questions Of this kind These questions are
not relevant and are outside the scope OF inVesl-
CATION fer which the committee was appointed.
81 cannot see" MI Moss said where the ~ee-
vancy comes in o. asking General Tracy about
what stocks he holds in corporations outside Inc
state Of New York"
we have made no objection" AR. Mazet IN
terjectod. 10 any of the many irrelevant ques-
tons put to the witness by Mr. Hoffman Now II
Mr. Hoffman Will explain why any interest Cen
cral Tracy may have rs stockholder IN a cor
poration outside New York state is pertinent 10
this inquiry would like to know it."
WHY. only yesterday morning. MI Hoffman
exclaimed MI Moss placed upon the records OF
this committee circular Of some Illinois cor
/
holder in that CORPORATION. Now. General Tracy
and the members Of his firm from the evidence
which has been given here. have been shown TO
be drawing money from the city OF New York.
II has not been shown that Mr.. Carroll is IN any
way holding an official position in the gift OK the
city. and therefore # it IS proper 20 place upon
the record circular showing that Mr.. Carroll
is stockhoder In an Illinois firm II is not I'M
proper for me 10 ask this witness. who IS draw
ins money from the city, whether he is interested
/ I'm corporations outside Of the State. Also want
! 10 say In asking this question. that am merely
following out the line of policy pursued by the
/ Republican majority Of this committee and It's
! counsel from the very first day the inquiry began
| This policy | protested against. And so long as
that has been the settled policy Of the committee
there is no reason why should not be allowed
the same latitude in examining General Tracy.
TRACY HIDES NOTHING.
After Mr. Moss had explained that he had pro
duced the circular because II showed that the
president Of the Consolidated Ice Company was
connected with the Illinois corporation and that
&, had been proved that Nj Carroll was Interested
with the ice company, which had secured many
advantages over other concerns from the DOCK
| Denartr1ent General Tracy remarked that he had
no objection TO answer Mr. Hormans question,
except that he considered it violation of tho
rights Of a private citizen II was not within the
power or the committee he contended, to ask
such questions of him. y shall not however re-
| fuse TO answer he added.
After q BRIEF conference with his colleagues NJ.
Mazet said that the committee was Of the opinion
that 1t ought not TO insist upon General Tracy
answering the question. but would leave the mat
ter his Judgment
Thereupon General Tracy said he owned preferred
stock in the Tennessee Coal and Iron Company
and in its subsidiary corporation. the Alabama
Steel Company. Il cannot recall any other COM
panies outside Of these in which hold stock he
added.
BACK AGAIN TO RAMAPo.
in 1925 YOU became president Of the Ramapo
company. did it own any real estate at that time?
actually ii! 1esed in the company at maj time"
do YOU know whether or not me kanapo com
other than options during The time you were presi
YES: it had maps, plans. surveys speciaeq1,
had options also on real estate
Nh Hoffman ntimated that he had nothing more
10 ask. whercuron General Tracy said: VIII You
not oblice me by asking one more question:
What is the question:" Mr.. Hoffman asked.
ct relates 10 the statement reported in the public
press 10 have been made by Mr. Croker. IN which
he stated that our firm sent large amount or
money 70 Albany 10 influence legislation
We'll I viii ask you II that IS true Mr. Hoff-
man said
REPLIES TO CROKER.
1T is not true I can hardly believe that Mr..
Croker made such 4 statement. but If he aid II IS
a very grave fslsohood. Ny firm has never sent a
dollar to Albany 10 control legislation; it has never
: sent a dollar TO Albany or 70 any other place eX-
cept for legitimate proper purposes
General Tracy as he left the stand informed the
committee that he wished it 10 be understood that
when Justice Truax was elected director Of the
Ramapo company in 1895. he was not on the bench.
LAWBREAKERs ARE BOLD
Michael Green, who for sIssn Years was
hacked AZ Adams while John Cornish acted
as tie middle man. He said he got out OF tho pol
tine ADAMS was the hacker Of about sixty policy
shops Green said he made his book IN tenement
toners he w so Only 6oherS9 ID. o9ee by the poee
III wines said he knew Nike" Bergin. who
was employed in Ar Adams policy head
wSo was he bad heard. broihern,aw Of CHEZ
Devery Green stated further thai The city was
s. Systematically divIcod up among tie policy back
crs. ard that the policy runners were on intimate
terms with The police
sixth-st, testified 10 the great lumber OF pool
rooms in Tho vicinity Of his place Of basiness.
one IN sotweln snrins aSd
and another at the corner Of Houston ana Greene
-. liz said he had played IN them all Ho lost
10 his wife who made complaint At the Mscdou-
gal-s- police station
POLICE MADE 80 ARREST
The captain said he would require the help Of tho
witness 90 close the place up, ana sent Mrs Cohen
10 tho poolroom with a policeman. The place was
running wide open, but the policeman made no
arrest, and even stood by while the woman was
insuted there. Next day woman called on INC
witness and gave his wife $40 took receipt for u
and told him 70 20 and tell the captain that It
Was an fixed. Mrs Conen complied Tho witness
could not say what captain this was. but Ia knew
: That u was the man IN charge OF tho MacQ0ueal-
ST. police station last September. The witness sa.d
he also visited the poOlroom Houston and
, Greene SITS. which was IN Captain Chapn-an's pre-
clnct lie lost 80 there and his brother 500 and
then Mrs. Cohen complained at tho Mercer-st St.
ton, taking nm with her. Captain Chapman he
SAID, Ok MN into n Dd ok f.I4 b. I'm
- that -e was no man TO make such complainf as
mat, ana that he was only trying TO use mo mo-
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