New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-09-04

THE SHAMROCK TO HAVE HER FIRST
SPIN OFF THE HOOK TO-DAY.
WHAT PHOTOGRAPHS sHOW-THE GEN
ERAL DEMAND FOR a KNOWLEDGE
OF HER CHANCES REPLIED
No - ~ EXPERT

TO BY AN EXPERT.
The announcement made on Saturday by Sir
Thomas Upton that the challenging yacht
would surely take her first spin In American
waters to-day has filed the minds Of local
yachtsmen with expectant curiosity. and It Is
said that q number Of New-York yachts VIII
attend for the purpose - getting an idea as %
the PAGES OF the lew vessel. There Is large
number of men in New-York. and indeed All
over the United States who are anxious 10 get
trustworthy pointers ~ TO how 20 make their
bets The odds that We're given some time ago
3 10 l. cannot be had now. and the latest bets
recorded have averaged at about 100 70 80 on
the Columbia one Of the amusing Incidents OF
the last two DAYS has been the evident tempta-
ton Of SIR Thomas Upton 10 break from MS
lifelong rule. and take a shy at some OF the
American money Il never bet a shllhnk lh "S
life" ne said. meditatively. "A he ran MS manu-
through his hair and asked about the odds that
could be obtained but il were a betting man
I would Ike 70 have had some Of that 70
money that was offered some time ago. II
seems proper that some odds should be- offered
against a boat that has 70 cross the ocean pe-
fore she sails for the cup and probably many
Americans win feel justified In backing 'ner
belief In their own defender with odds up 70 the
time Of the races
Str Thomas dropped the subject az TINS point
as # ne felt that 1t was difficult one 10 h"nu''
with entire discretion-as II an expression OF d
desire 10 bet was not sufficiently courteous 20
the skill ~ the Herreshons. But, all the sa"e'
Sir Thomas told HE friends before h' iett hnB-
land not 10 bet too hard against dark morse
While not assuming the responsibility Oh IN
fuencing the action of his friends, he eVine"uS
felt that II was not improper TO give the"
tip as TO how not to lose their money.
In snite 10 this determination to avoid an
open show ~ confidence. hts real feeling on the
the subject leake out from time 70 time IN '''
most uriutentional way. IL came 20 MN aS "
new idea when there was talk about his losing
"Wil you challenge again next year YOU
are defeated no,v?' no was asked
"Oh" be said absen;y, Il have not thought
Of that"
There have been n number Of unpremeditat'u
savings that show the real attitude 81 his mind
ana vhil, no one could br more careful to sup
press any exhibition Of premature confidence
IT is fair guess. ami believed sincerely to be a
fact that Sir Thomas regards the issue of the
coming contests as a practical certainty for
him It's too quiet for bluN. He may be en-
tirelv wrong In his conclusions, but 50 far as
his own demoanor Is concerned. II certainly In
diratos not the holding of high hope. but the
ccncealment Of certainty.
SO OTHER YACHT LIKE HER.
"Tho Shamrock IS built Ike no other yacht in
ex' uence" said Sir Thomas at the Fifth Avenue
Hotel. after his arrival in New-York. 1'nat
statement contained perhaps the most impor-
tant information that has been published about
tho challenger since she was designed II may
be known now as a fact that Fife has intro
duccl some new idea into the under water body
- the Shamrock which conyinces the owner
that his boat VIII win. This is a straight de-
niql for those who have contended that there
woulI le nothing new about the challenging
Yacht. and that when she Vac disclosed at the
Fri. Basin drydocS she would he found to be
little different from the Columbia.
There have been excellent grounds Tor believ-
ing from the first that Fife would at least
bring a thoroughly up to date racing machine
% try for the cup. thar She would have a much
Nattcncd floor, thin fin. and powerful model
for sail carrying combined with a light and
weak construction.
Whether he has added anything more than
this may bc doubted. and b. cannot be expected
?. have gone off into experiments Of new ideas
that might not prove successful He may. how
ever. reasonably be expected 70 have put into
the Shamrock the best discoveries that have
h tn made IN th' SIhdIl yd'ut 'i'i~S'9' anu IL H'
has done this he has perhaps done sufficient TO
win.
The Internal measurements of the boats seem
o. show pretty surely that the underwater body
~ the Columbia is at least three feet deeper
than that Of the Shamrock and If this proper
ton were carried down into The smaller classes
j, would almost certainly mean "a win, other
qualities being equal II is Therefore not neces-
sary 10 expect t. find any new miracle in the
tail of the challenger but simply that she has
been built ON The same principles exhibited IN
the smaller racing craft ana Whlch nave LEFT 10
possible doubt as to which models hold the high
,ef sr..ds
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