The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-19

Mr.. Grant!
A No, sir
semblymen in whose vote he had put mon
ey, or Mr. Grant had put money
A He did not.
Q. Haven't you or The Call some such
list now?
Q: Did you not say that there was such
a list in existence?
A. I have had it from good authority
want to see it and L have not seen 1t.
9. Who was that good authority?
A. Now, you are getting right back
again TO where you went loose while
1t, and really Mr.. Mellick, 1 don't want
to refuse to answer any OF your
quesuons-but meet men every
day, and they tell me about tn, the
Mr.. Burns men tell me they have
got all the members of the Legislature
and all that, and l don't think you ought
to require me to repeat those converse
lions.
Q. No, as newspaper man myself, |
regard as sacred certain condolences; but
at the same time, TO be plain, L have
heard that Mr.. Green wanted the support
of The Call-it was time for them to get
in this highland that you said: Il don't
think these men will stay with you" and
that Mr.. Green said: Here are the men;
here are the names"-and gave you list
fight he had put money, and that you had
heard of such a list or that there is such
a list to be obtained Do you know of
such list?
A. I probably know of it, same as you
do, Mr.. Mellick. You know the people
have been talking about the list; and If
there is such a list in existence probably
The Call could have obtained possession
of it had it been disposed to support Mr..
Grant for United States Senator.
@. Did it obtain it?
A Not to my knowledge. I referred
Mr.. Green to Mr.. Spreckels, the pro-
prietor of the paper.
The chairman-Do you know of any
body who has the list of the names of
members of this Legislature of whom 1t is
said that Mr.. Green paid money for their
election?
A. 1 know of no such list in existence,
Mr.. Chairman.
formation that Mr.. Spreckels or The Call
has some such list?
A l don't think Mr.. Spreckels or any
member of The Call staff has any such
they had it they would certainly refer 1t
to me-
@. Well, as understand it, then, you
simply wanted to ask your attorney as to
whether you shall divulge this high au-
thority that knows of such a list?
A No, sir-no, you asked me If Mr..
Green ever spoke to me about paying
anybody's expenses, and L asked to be
The chairman-I asked if Mr. Green
had ever told you of having put any
money into the campaign of any one of
the members of this Legislature. and you
declined to answer, as l remember. l
may not have it worded as l had it at
first.
A. Not out of any discourtesy to the
committee, Mr.. Chairman.
Q. Certainly; we understand that, but
that is your position, as L understand
you That you do not desire to divulge
no M n narGOnG
Green has said to you that he assisted in
making their campaign. Am right?
8. And that you declined to answer I'M
A. Upon the ground that I don't think
it will throw any light upon this investi-
cation that is now being made.
Mr. Mellick-Well, Mr.. Green did tell
certain parties?
A. will have to decline to answer.
Q. (After witness consults with his at
torney) Do you still decline to answer?
A. Will you please ask the question
again, Mr.. Chairman?
The chairman-Did Mr.. Green, at any
time, state to you the names of members
of this Legislature for whose election he
had expended money?
The witness-Well, now, seriously, Mr..
Chairman, / don't believe the committee
ought to force me to answer that ques-
tier; but my attorneys have advised that
I must answer it.
O. Well, l want to consult on that prop.
osition. The only question in my mind
is of whom it ought to be first asked. I
think It ought to be, asked. do not
know that you are the proper party to
ask it of first.
A j hope you will ask the other party
The chairman-The committee decide
that you must answer the question, Mr..
Leake.
The w!tness-Mr. Green told me on two
different occasions
Q: Now start in by giving US the time
and place and persons present.
A. l cannot do that. 1t has not been
very long ago, because l have not known
Mr.. Green very long. 1t is since have
been in Sacramento.
G. Since the Legislature sat?
A. Yes, sir. On two different occasions
the. question came up about this man
or that man influencing certain members
Of the Legislature; and Mr. Raw's Mans
came up. He told me that he had as
sisted Mr.. Raw in his election fnan-
cielly.
Q. Did he tell you in what amount?
A No sir.
Q. Did he tell you in what manner Green
paid out the money?
except to tell about certain people, in Ger,
tain parts of the county. that had got
somenbillm91 IL, Bros or Fillm Gnn.1 Bros
people that 1 am not acquainted WITT;
therefore. that nobody could influence Mr..
Raw away from Mr.. Grant.
O. Did he indicate to you in any man.
ner how much that assistance had cost
Mr. Grant?
A. He did not.
Q. Did he say mat he had assisted them
financially in the interest of Mr.. Grant,
A. He didn't put 1t that way.
@. How is that?
A. He did not put it that way.
@. Now state his conversation, exactly
as he stated 1t, as nearly as you can.
A. Well. simply that there was no fear
but what Mr.. Raw was going to stay
with Mr.. Grant. because he had assisted
Mr.. Raw financially.
Q. He?
A. Green.
Raw financially?
A. OF course draw my inference from
it the same as you gentlemen can.
@. Yes, all of us do that.
A. But / don't want to put words in
Mr.. Green's mouth
@. His language was this, then, was it,
that Mr.. Raw would vote for Mr.. Grant
because r. assisted him financially in
his election? Was that it?
A. Yes. sir
@. That was the substance of it. Any
other. member of the Legislature that he
mentioned?