The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1899-09-02

ments by Archivist Boutonnet. Counsel
recalled the statements OF Generals Roget
taetters evidence relatice to the leaEage
Of Information about a she'll and asked
the witness II ne was sure the leakage
Major Hartman replied
Certainly both n the case of the she'll
and the detonator."
said taat1 while ne was connected with
the Artillery technical department he
never saw Dreyfus."
and remarked that Major Hartmann )
evidence did not give him the impression
thar it wholly accorded with the real
Continuing, the General proceeded to
refute Major Hartmann's arguments. He
asserted Dreyfus could have casually
abstracted Information from the CONVEX
sation Of officers acquainted with the de-
tails of the gun and the brake, without
his informant being aware of It.
The Major replied that II the general
tenor of his evidence was admitted TO be
true it was difficult for the details not
to be true also. He therefore asked Cen
eral Deloye to be more explicit. The Gem
eral reiterated that Dreyfus could have
obtained the information from officers
with special knowledge, who had in-
parted it unconsciously during the course
of conversation. The Major pointed out
that this could hardly have happened in
the case of Dreyfus, as it has been shown
throughout the trial that it was sufficient
for any person to have been in touch with
Dreyfus for that person to remember
what had passed between MIN and the
prisoner. The witness did not doubt that
,, # an artillery officer had been asked for
| information by Dreyfus he would have
| come forward to say so. "as 1t would have
been his strict, conscientious duty
| (Comm0tfon.)
At the conclusion of his testimony, Ma
jor Hartmann asked if the Artillery De-
partment Of the War Office had not in
| vestigated the leakage at Bourges. and
General Deloye replied -
There have been many inquiries into
many leakages but the Artillery Depart
ment has neser inquired into them. In
regard to Dreyfus 1t was asked TO do so
| and supplied information, but that is ALL
Major Hartmann retorted that he was
surprised that when an officer was ac-
cused OF the most aboIninable crime OF
treason it was not thought necessary TO
open an inquiry with the view of proving
MIN guilty or innocent.
General Deioye-4 Pardon me, / said
| there was no inquiry. But. let US under
stand one another. I meant no inquiry
upon the part Of the artillery DEPART
Replying TO Colonel Jouaust, General
| Deloye said he had made an inquiry at
| Bourges relative to what Dreyfus might
| have divulged concerning the Robin shell
1 and Robin, at that tinne declared Drey-
| fus had never aske4 him for information,
| except once, when he asked how the
/ to work faster.
Replying to NJ. Demange, General De-
1 ioye said he regarded himself solely as a
! technical, expert. and, therefore. only had
| to demonstrate the possibility of the pris-
| oner being guilty without saying whether
| he thought him innocent or guilty. eek
| NJ. Labori asked General Deloye if he
| would undertake the responsibility Of
| commenting on the terms of the border
| eau The General replied that it was not
I " a nd " ar
| for him 10 express an opinion on evidence
or on arguments. He desired To remain
on scientific ground. He merely declared
! that the impessibilities urged by Dreyfgs
| did not exist Excitement.
/ At this stage OF the proceedings there
was an animated discussion between Gen
! questioned the Director of Artillery.
NJ. Labori-.iCan General Deioye say
anything in regard to the importance of
i the documents the traitors particularly
i the writer of bordereau, may have de-
/ livered?,
General Deloye, speaking with great
emotion and extending his arm towards
/ counsel for the defence, said:-
Don't ask me! Don't ask mel (Great
excitement9 There Is sufficient evidence
| in the bordereau that the traitor is a mas
1 portance of documents he is delivering
Information has the value of official docu-
/ ments- It is likes notes of the Bank of
| France The Information was accepted
as pure gold. When l read the bordereau
was. hooked. prolonged excitement in
court.)
/ explain the words in the bordereau
+ some interesting information
General Deloye-''Great Heayenl Yes. It
1 was iteresting information. Information
/ affecting the covering of troops. Why, it
| was of the grFeatest possible value.',
Counsel asked Major Hartmann to give
4 an opinion On this ponit and the Major
] pointed out that even If the writer of the
4 bordereau was a master hand and
/ '.seigneur.' he was ignorant of artillery
matters for he referred to the hydraulic
| iDrake of the t120 gum he was comnllini-
! eating matters long known, while if he re-
ferred to the ..12O short gun the express
/ sion was not correct. =
When asked if he had anything to say.
| the prisoner rose and holding paper
| in his hand said:-
General Deloye has said that the artii-
\ terry department placed firing manuals at
| the disposal of the Second Beaureau. The
! bordereau, in announcing the despatch OF
| ed at the disposal of the probationary Off
1 GERS. There is here an important inaecur-
| acy. The probationers Of the Headquar-
| ters staff never ateid these firing trials.
| It is believed 1t is the officers holding per-
manent positions in the staff who are
| meant. see on the margin the names of
| such officers"
General DeIoye in reply said the error
must have been made in the Second
Bureau, and not in the Artillery Depart
ment.
ly. theoretically protested against General
Sebert remarks relative to Captain Val
erio's testimony and accused General Sc
bert of imputing to the Captain as a
crime the fact that he had risen from the
ranks
General Mercier then reappeared in the
witness box and attempted TO refute Ma
| ior Hartmaun's arguments He account.
ed for the use of the expression. 1y-
lraulic braker in the bordereau by the
fact that the Germans used the expires,
sion to designate similar brakes There
fore he added it was natural that the
correspondent Of the Germans should ems
p1oy the term.