New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-02-03

Tended Spains right to exercise sovereignty there
He referred to the capture Of Havana nv the
British and subsequent transfer OF the control
Of the city back TO Spain. and maintained that
although Spain may have governed the colony by
tyrannical methods II still had complete SOW
ereignty
Mr. Canery-Then the longer tyranny is exercised
in a colony by 2 government tho more hrnly nNeu
becomes its sovereignty
Mr. Spooner-rrhe Senator knows l do not mean
that and he knows. too. that that Is not true re
knows. too that unsuccessful resistance OF tyr
amy does not dsplace the sovereignty OF the con-
trolling power.
BRUSH WITH TILLMAN
Mr. T1llman again interrupted with the asser-
,ion that II Mr. spooner had heen present at yes
,ordov's executive session he would not have made
certain statements Tie then quoted from the re-
norris Of the United States Consul az Manila GER
tain facts tho progress OF the revolution
agains, Spanish rule in the islands.
is not the Senator making public" replied Mr..
spooner smiling some information concerning
,hc executive sessions OF the Senate
Yes I am" replied Mr. Tillman. But the In
formation have" holding aloft a printed docu-
,,ant is contained in this book. which has been
made public and will. therefore. be excused from
/ violating faith with my brethren Of the Senate
Nfr SpoOner said that no government az mao
neen contendcd on the floor Of the Senate. had been
established in the Philippine Islands 1t could not
he seriously regarded government as II was
nothing more than a tinhorn affair at best.
Mr. Tillman again interruptng and holding aiott
the document ynich he held said Unless the SEN
stor withdrews his imputations against the good
faith and honesty OF Agunaido will read what l
have here
Mr. Spooner-I have made no reference 70 Aguin-
aldo.
Your remarks about Aguinaldo" retorted MI
Tillman were made in a sneering and airy man
ner indicating respect $50
Mr. Spooner-If the Senator from Aguinaldo VIII
permit me 10 pursue my argu nent IN my own way
will be grateful. I have said nothing about
AEuinaldo, and DO NOT care 10 nave my sPee'" ~
ticipated
Mr. spooner then explained that he had not been
nresent Yesterday on account OF illness. and was
anxious on account Of his physical conoluo" "
complete his argument soon as possinle
Mr. Tillman-In the circumstances, VIII not
ocair i,,orrun+ the Senator and will even endure
the sheer about my being Senator from AsNi'
aldo
Mr. spooner promptly withdrew his reference 10
Mr. Tillman and proceeded with his olscuhsloh vi
the so-caled Filipino Republic Neierr'ns 10 I'e
authority and pow er OF Aguinaldo he saio tha'
What no represented nobody knows, and nooody
could say how far his authority extended. belore
the Peace Commission in Paris. II had heeh sta'eu
that ArlIinaldo represented only per cent OF the
inhabitants OF the Islands.
CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED
IN discussing the assertion that the consent OF
he necessary 10 the eAciO4Sc "a 49,
mowers by the governing nation, Mr. Spooner heo
NAT the nosition assumed by Mr.. Platt' that
Government received its Just powers from some OF
the governed was correct. He declared thar rnuch
~ the territory acquired by the United states HSU
been gained against the will Of the people gov.
.rned He ridiculed the idea that distance couiu
affect the right 10 acquire territory. why was
there no objection the acquisition OF PORTO h'o
e there must he so much opposition 10 taxing the
Phi1ipnines? True the Army Of the United states
vas welcomed 10 Porto Rico with open arms. but
that this should be 40 after hundred years OF
SPANISH rule was not strange. The consent OF the
Porto Ricans had not been asked
Mr. Bacon replied that the circumstances were
different because Of the proximity of Porto hIco'
AZ ,he presence OF Spain IN any Of the West Indian
islands would he inmical 70 the United States.
II thank the Senator from Georgia for the ad-
mission replied Mr. Spooner The DeGlara a ilon
Of independence Is 70 3e susPenGeu ~ the Tinted
no not our interests" replied Mr. Bacon. our
public safety, which is greater than our INTERESTS
safe'v.~ said Mr spooner The Senator practi-
| caiIy admits that We want Porto Rico because We
| need II in our business
Mr. Hale made the point that there was great
difference between the two cases Porto Kco cooiu
be considered as an indemnlty-a lanu OF Spi i
| eble value, and not detrment. an -plthtlig
curse and woe as wonid ne ine b, question
, of policy. Did not MIR Spooner see the grave Dan
1 ger
Responding laconically. Mr. spooner said he sa"
Mr Hoar Interrupted 70 say that he made no
| distinction IN the two He took the broad
| ground that there was no justification for an a =
/ fernur n govern any people without their consent
Nj Srooner said that there way out OF n;
that II a. the end Of the war an indemnity Is 70
| be taken must be- without the consent OF
! tho people He announced his apprehension OF the
policy Of expansion some people "aItz up 20
ia he vs. an exnansionist 10 the extent Of want
in do
/ ne thought that 10 acquire distant and non-as-
smilabe people was the poorest possible means Of
lie shrank he said from the policy Of making a
part OF our land tropical islands thousands Of miles
| from our shores-a land whose people were alien.
not of our blood. who foreign 10 our institu-
lions OF oF o03l ibareoe IN %S9 m a @
| fcial sentimental and fantastic much 81 inc tax
concerning the permanent annexation OF ,heSe far-
| away islands Il am not he said thrilled 10y inc
| jingle about not hauling down the Tag when 1t has
once been raised. II has been hauled down n loi-
mer times. i viii be hauled down again We VIII
dow tbere leaving behind IL liberty and an nde-
| pendent government / nope TINS also may be soon
true In the Philippines and In saving this do not
| consider I inconsistent
NO HALFWAY COURSE POSSIBLE.
u the ratification Of the treaty involved perma 70
mont dominion he would not for fl But he
had not been able TO find any halfway resting
place between accepting the cesson and abandon
ing the islands 10 their fate. and this was not per
| Missile The President kind and generous he
| Is would not make a treaty leaving the Philippine
archipelago 10 the lust the savagery and brutality
! OF spanish rule To have attempted this course
/ would have been 70 inauGurate rule OF anarchy
! with all its horrors and while war was cruel and
/ hitter anarchy was hell let loose on earth. In
| case Of a ba ndoning the Philippines Spain would.
! Of course reassert her rights there. and IN case
she was not financially able 10 accept TINS rtspOn-
| sibilty she would find plenty Of assistance from
] o'her European nations friendly 70 her
| In closing Nj Spooner said that the ratihcauon
| - the treaty and the acceptance by this country
Of the cession from Spain were not declaration or
| PRINCIPLES He declared that the Bacon resolutions
! and all other pending resolutions on THIS subJec
were rich with mischief and ought not 10 De ADOPT
| I'd wa business OF Congress 70 leglsIate
/ and follow the lines marked out ny IN" onstl
| tuition and the will Of the people "A people VINO
| went 10 war 10 free cuba may. think -" triste
| 10 do the right. just and generous thing ~ ~"
| Philippine archipelago. s
| Mr Tman explained why he had interrupted
the Wisconsin Senator He desired 70 lncorporate