New-York tribune., 1899-04-11

ann,rs,us yo, had no case against O'Keefe you
had no case against Kelly. though Kelly lives IN
the house; you hadn't worked up any case. anu
there was nothing to hold the twelve poor men.
who were DISCHARGED and there remained a lot OF
gambling material. You allowed those people 10
20 into court and in some wax which you, aG sSat
which never appealed and Tsbs II wH1t phGt 3ha
to that place and the inference ysb tboss clements
Of tho case that any reporter at this table wod id
Won do? A.-The same as done before: tried 10
get evidence against the place. r.s,onsibe
O-And YOU helI your subordinates Tespo,siD.,'
didn't YOU? A--Under the rules OF the Department.
'eo.-A book? A-The same kind Of book as
oWhat would be the effect do you thinkii i,a II
msn and f not book AThas would be rsaa wsoa be
oDo you think 4 1t Tas de you oUn mean by real live
meny ,u. when he is alive, in
SsoIice sense? Al know am alive all the u'ne'
and i keep everybody alive under me; Al keen
ey9srySoSy 9SSSSS snGw aTs areand nS r.r,,svs
oWei on sr the same s6a snme i,nss accusation as
twelfth was and you removed osp.almd ssnd him up
sent hin YSs had SS S
o-You were ordered TO do that at, oy |o"'''ss'o"e'
seSton d Iet omissioner Sexton speak to you about
Odd anybody speak to you about 1t? A'-No'
rsn was wo are responsibe for sending Captain
Herlihv down? Al certainly was .,,,
Vel owas u9H il because you found that there were
Hf did not Wait for that did not think he had
exactly ability enough 70 stay anr, his nyec,nct7
Q..-And did you know anything ANU HIS
Ton nVs aid not Investigate the precinct A.No
here7 ABecause he thoroughly e ,bsre
ond cond COPE with the people there thought
he would make good man there. ,,r,us un thu
nrecincto Ayes -.
po.|And You sent a clean man to do It? Al
And whG II M hs Is Is aSweS Swea to w' do ds t. his
Gle is a man who. II he is let. Will do his
duty? Ale will.
NEVER IN THE DEWEY THEATRE.
Q-How Is It that you have put such men as
Chapman and Diamond IN precincts of this KIND
and held them there? What have you done that
for? A.-No object in doing It,
Ono object whatever? A.-No.
Q.-That precnct-Diamonds precinct-inciudes
such places as McGurk's, the Dewey Theatre and
Hochstine's Hall doesn't It.? A-Yes
Al nave 'Ios0 not heard anything touching on any
thing disorderly Of any kind. There was place
McGurk's place. some time ago. something ABOUT
GA short time ago the papers were full ot Of
o@And You yourself have quite occasionally Wis
tied the performances at the Dewey Theatre, as q
guest? Al have never been there; no, sir. 49,
QaWhy have you not disciplined TaRPsan Rs1a aa Dla
TONED. which have acted in disorderly way? A.
o'-You heard Of complaints against McCiurks,
complaints which have reached around the world
ing and and SO thrilling. why haven't you disciplined
Captain Diamond for not suppressdngM w IT, McHrks
r "a, and Sso1a he5 f 5e aTd the
o.-,Haven't you forgotten something. You re-
Delaney went into the Fourteenth Precinct? A
A
o~Have you confidence in him still? A-Ye..
mond in his place? Al thought Diamond was
younger man, and would make a better man in
,o.-Is that the only reason7 Al sent, him
there because he is a good man and good Re-
..Q.--And 1t difficult district? "A difficult
Q;-And. you proposed to be ready for an investi-
CIT is a heavily Democratic district? Al
Q.--What was your object in putting over these
poor doYn there this wgant ReSps
forty 'G precincts in New-York
Republican Now why, did you put Republican
captain there. over all that good, solid, Demo
young man: and good dlsGiplinarian, and thor
OGghy s,S nd that precinct he
Republican s;,o a. thought you were trying to put
Q.-so you told me what tbs. political reason
was? 1t was a political reason? A.-No; 1t was
0r a man who could know the situation
Q.-Didn't you find that Captain Delaney and
Mr. McGurk were pretty thick? Al did not.
MURDER IN POLICY SHOP.
Q-Whle we are thinking about these places
that are allowed to run. do you remember mur-
der that occurred at policy shop. No. 2l5 Fifty
nlnth-st.. the 2Sh day of February. 1S9S-you
remember murders L guess. L think they are Of
sufficient importance for you to remember them?
A.-When IT?
Q-February 2S lSss-just about year ago. A.
That did not my notice. l not in
my position at that time ! think was in Brook
Cuaeh's time n1s.'NN'O''
Q.-The fact that a murder occurred there has
never been brought 10 your attention, then? A
OFF you had known that a murder had occurred
was closed? A.-Certainly. would try TO close It,
immediate subordinates in that precinct in allow
ing that policy shop to open the very next day
ming until this very day? Al can only answer for
On your time, how do you account for it?
A.-The captain of the precinct must be giving it
o-What kind of attention can that be? A
There may be an alleged policy shop an and man
tenementh house canvass. or in butcher shop or in
Q,~No. Chief he has been there all this time
and if a private citizen. without uniformed man
at his command. can find out these things. why
can't you? Ave are coping with those stu
o,~You are not coping with them? A.-You say
the next day?
O.-I say now. Alt might be two three
months after.
Q.-T say nov AmIf you say now now Il is going
will put the commanding officer on 1t.
Q.-I am not furnishing you with evidence. A.
] will tell you what policy is: Those will write
it in their hat. in any place. If you chase them
from door TO door he will do It, We coping
with that situation all the time
Q.--You know as well as do that you will never
make any headway against policy by attacking the
poor little miserable fellows around cigar shops
and tenement houses. You know well / do
the policy men the big gamblers who have the
capital. Why don't you up 10 the headquarters
and meet them? l asked you the other day who
they were. and you said you did not know. except
your friend. Mr. Adams. you heard. was connected
with them, and your friend. Kelley Parker Have
you any more definite knowledge now Al told
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