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Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1899-02-23

you remember coming there7 Yes. sir.
You remember seeing Dickson
brown. Thurman. myself there. and
Harris. sloan7 Yes. sir.
Now during that conversation wa
asked you what took place between
you and Jackson7 Yes.
And YOU repeated substantially what
you said today? did. And Mr.. Harris
told me TO conatrue what he had said.
and I said that It was for this inycs'
tigating committee to construe.
Don't you remember that finally
when this matter Of cost and expense
came up that Judge Dickson said. Mr.,
Wins. what expense or cost could there
be In that connection, ana someone said
something about n carriage and you
said. yes. I believe that carriage was
mentioned In the talk that you Ind
with Fisher Harris that night at tho
head Of the stairs. what do you re-
member about that7 As TO whether
the carriage was mentioned or rug.
Eestcd by someone In the room. and
you said Yes. I believe the cnrriare
was mentioned"
In that conversations No. sir. Tho
carriage was mentioned before. In some
previous conversation with Harris
Had he spoken Of getting carlngs
10 send Tor Jackson that night Yes
he did n was on the previous occa.
sion. That is the nrst time when We
went 10 lNnk Tor MIN inc same night.
II was about $3.50 should Judge.
Van Cntt-Thc evening we were talk.
Ing with you, did not Harris ask you
IN the room. " In the last conversation
you had with him. that YOU had unr-
Ecated that jackson might have gone
home. and Harris said. we'll u 80. take
"a carriage. and something was sail
about expense. and he said Damn the
expense. see him anyway" don't
think the conversation occurred at ali
IN the way YOU put It,
Well. In suhatnncc7 think n was
this way 7 think he said. NJ the KEN
yun. Mr. Harris said. when YOU were
up here first. YOU suggested you had
been unable 20 nud jackson and
thought he wns NJ home. and he Hug.
.. fat 60 tnke carriage and got him
I understand now and understood then
that when he referred 10 that carriage
on the occasion you speak ~. he h..
frrrrd 20 that first conversation. and
the last conversation I had. there was
no time To talk. when We left. To- taik
about cnriingcs. although I may have
suggested that jackson might have
gone home.
Now. calling your attention 10 tho
conversation with Harris ut the head
" the stairs When Harris fnaiiy told
vou a. never mind the cSuense tn ra
on how Tar were you nparN We were
right together. I think he came 10 the
head uf the stairs.
THAT ti.o0o AGAIN.
DO YOU know Mr.. Iiughcs7 Yes. slr.
nld YOU ever say tn him nt any time
that YOU could have got thousand
dollars ~ McCunc'a money " you could
secure Inckson's vote
objected 20 by AIR. Evans. objection
sustained.
NH Van Cntt-rhen we want Mr.
ifurhoa' testimony stricken out.
| flnWoil=AFe YOU OF were YOU ever
employed hv McCunc or his managers
/ fuf Mcrune's candidacy No the only
/ thing that brought this matter up was
~ friend and seeing Chambers.
| Adjourned till nine o'clock this morn
/ Ing.
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DEsERET EVENING THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 1892

and asked " he wanted TO go up and
talk Il over. Yes, he said he would.
went out Sunday evening 20 look for
Jackson where usually mot him. made
n little tour around. but could not hear
n word Of him. then telephoncd to the
Ontario Office for Mr.. Chambers. but he
was not there. About ? o'clock found
Mr.. Chambers and saw Jackson irime-
diateiy after that. They met ~ cham
bers, office and had talk. I do not
think ! participated In It to any great
extent.
SAYS JACKSON PROMISED.
You had a private talk with Fisher
Iiarrlsi What did you and Fisher
Harris say therc7 I told him that I
had finally found Jackson. and that he
was perfectly willing To go over to
Chambers. and that he did 80 and that
! was along, and told him that Mr.
Chambers had said. jackson. how DO
you stand on this senatorial coutcst7"
jackson answered. NJ near NE I can re-
member. that Mcclure at that time was
not his choice for senator. but Just na
soon - u was demonstrated that his
candidate was defeated. mr. stood no
ahpw-l think that WIS the term-nnd
" Mccune was running his campaign
on the square, he would go 70 McCune
ana vote for him. But h. said h. would
not do that until he knew his candidate
stood no show. He did not propose to
~ around from bush 10 bush scmc-
thing o. the kind. or be n weather
vaue that when he came to Mccunc he
would stay. II his man stood no show
and n McCuno's campaign was run on
the square.
Mr.. Dickson-Thnt II. free from brlb-
cry and corruption Yes: that ~ what
h. said. Mr. Dickson.
EvanH-You are repeating what tho
- NHas.
said that he had told the people over NJ
headquarters ,McCunc'sl that he boz
lieved ultimately, when IackHun'H other
choice or choices were out ~ the race
that h. would be- willing 10 support Me-
Cunc. AIR Chamber remarked. when
viii you be willing to Gomez Mr. Jack
son said, tomorrow. I am Obliged to
vote FOR Mr.. King on some ballots. that
would be Monday. but thereafter. and
possibly on Monday. for All that 7
know. he would vote Tor Mr.. McCuuc
provided his own choice nr choices
stood no show In this contest. and Mr.
McCunc'H campaign was run on the
square. that was All h. cared about.
The entire conversation was Just NJ
friends would talk. Thcn we started
out and Chambers called me back as I
have stated.
WHAT HARRIS SAID.
Harris said tn me. can We make sure
~ Jackson'a votef I said. Mr. Harris.
I don't know anything further than
what am repeating 60 you In my
statement. ana ! was willing 10 let him
draw hts own conclusions from that.
lie says, we'll u must b. secured
Wew you sittlnR down. I do not
think 20. He says. We have got to
know whore We are In this voting, I
says. we'll. that seems 20 be- assurance
enough Harris was very much Inter-
cHtod IN the outcome ~ this conVrran-
tom that II. what Jackson had with
Chamber.
Wasn't he anxious. Mr. wins. about
the outcome Of the McCunc clcctionf
| don't doubt that Tor a minute. lie
may have been anxious about that. too.
but what he was talking about to me
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was the conversation. the outcome Of
the conversation with Sir. jackson and
Chamber. That closed the conversa~
tion. ID was after II o'clock. He came
right along with me. through the
rooms and to the stairway. ] think. lie
said now you see him again tonight.
and have this thing secured 80 we may
know absolutely that he IL going 20
vote FOR McCunc. " he H. And ! said.
all right. will do II. II occurred TO
me that II was very late-Jackson Of
course had been up the night before
and I didn't know whether could
catch him. He says. you Ind him,
and secure that Jackson vote. make IL
certain. and never mind the cNpensei
now go on.
lie said that: you secure that jack
son vote. make Il certain and never
mind the vNpenfc7 lie was very much
In earnest about H.
He got more earnest as you went
out2 Yes. sir.
And dldn't he say something else
about THAR II don't occur 20 me. lie
said the last thing, NJ We rot TO the
stairs. he says. you see jackson again
tonight. and / said yes. I had In mind
that jackson would be AZ the cullen
" | hurried. and II not ! would have
to 60 down to the house.
Didn't he say. you 20 out and be
sure and secure that Jackson vote TOT
tomorrow at any costs or expense :
Didn't he want you to secure ne vo'e
Tor Monday. the next day. Wei. I
think h. did. although It was under
stood that Mr.. Jackson was going TO
vote Tor Mr. King.
lie told Chambers that and you re-
pcaie1 u. and IN the teeth Of that he
wanted you 10 secure the Jackson vote
az any expense Tor tomorrow Ny Inn
Ing Ia vote Tor king, fpr a specific
number Of ballots.
WINS SAID TO EVANS.
am asking you now what Fisher
Harris and you said. You talked to
ne last night you remember and told
ne that Mr. Harris was very anxious
10 get Jackson TO vote Monday Yes.
Where did you 20 after you lett
thgre9 went down ncrosH the white
House corner and hurried 10 The Cui-
let. end was there In about thirty sec
ouds. Jackson was there. found him
Immediately. It's about half block
Dla you tell jackson what Harris had
told you isi.
Repeated the conversation Yes.
what lid jackson says jackson con.
rlicrcd II for moment. ANA then he
HaN 49,
DID you urdcrstand Fisher Harris 10
say Expense" or cost" | could hard
~ toll. I used the word "cxpcnEc." II
miVi.t have been cost"
u conveyed the idea ~ cost or cx.
peurrr Yes.
Well I tuid Mr.. jackson what Fish
cr iiurfif said IN his closing convcrsn-
ton. and he Just stopped minute and
said. Il have thought this matter over.
and believe the McCunc campaign Il
not an the square. from what I have
hoard. and other circumstances. be.
Hove that II n a corrupt thing from
beginning to end" And he says. n
believe this ~ Just another evidence "
g. or words TO that eject. I don't
think I can repeat his language. That
was the nrst that It had occurred TO
me.
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pid,.t II occur 10 you as II did TO
.TacKson. when Harris spoke to your
| / fever had but one thought In my
mind, aud that was 10 get 70 JACKSON
bsfore he went home. Well. ! had
rreat deal o. confidence In Jackson We
| have hren Intimate. and Of course
was struck by what he said. loon
hi4 word az carrying great deal OF
wolght. wheh he said u % me, ana l
snlI-f mas have been little proiane
-hute,e or. nj all events. TO this eject
that n he had any idea or any sus.
plclon that Mr.. McCunc was-r0rruptins
ma state and was attempting TO Sc.
cufe lis election through any corrupt
means. that he should not vote Tor nun
nest day or ever. and that ! would
stand by him.
40 THOUGHT OF BRIBERY.
You went from Mr.. Harris' presence
that evening down the stairs, and hur-
rlcd on your mission without any
thought In your mind OF anything I'M
proper that had been said by Mr. liar-
rlag Yes ! had only one thought Ia
my mind. that was Ia get 10 jackson.
Mr. Cummings-i How ala you come
t0 20 TO Mr. Jackson with the exact
words VI Mr.. Harris. " you did not
think those words Implied bribery |
wanted TO impress him with the m.
UNfNNNNN AlAA AA'Nfl fiuAllN NAAa't'tA
70 the conversation he had had win
Chambers.
what expense could there be In such
an errun1 az yuu were performing at
that ilne that would induce you to say
this a. Jackson what expense
Yes7 We'll, I don't know. you un.
dcratand the circumstances. At that
time The reason repeated the IAN.
guuro ns nearly 90 ! remembered u
was 10 impress him with the import.
ancc that Mr. Harris attached 90 what
h. had said.
Now. as To- the expense involved. why
dl1 you think the word expense would
impress Iacksonf II never impressed
me at all. In any way
why did you think that w1ui I'm.
press JaCkauu3 l thought it would
Impress him with the Importance Tint
Mr. Harris attached TO what h. had
said tu Chambers, that u wis nhap.
iutcly necessary Tor him to close tho
matter up 20 that there would be no
doubt and they could count On his
vote at the time. ne I stated.
Mr.. Dlckson-You did not In your
statement To- jackson suggest the idea
VI bribery TO him? No. had no
thought OF bribery nj all.
Now about this matter N oXpcnHc,
you realized that jackson might have
already gunc homer Yes.
n he had gone 60 his home. You were
going 20 see him that night AMI you
would have to take a hackf Yes.
presume 10. or walk.
You thought n hack would be- rcedri
ON the previous occasion when you
wanted 10 nnd hlmf Yes, I think I
would
Didn't you say to Harris IN that
| conversation. that jackson might have
/ gone home ur might b. homer I can't
say nH a. that. I cannot recall every
/ detail. I don't remember.
\ CARRIAGE NEEDED.
Mr.. Van Cott-Mr. WINS. you re-
member being teluphoncd Tor Monday
evening to come To McCune'H head
quarters when these specifications
which implicated you were received
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told him Just before leaving that he
must secure tho jackson vote tonight,
no matter what the expense. ] sug-
gested to him AZ that time that
looked to me ne though they might De
willing to use money. and that TO my
mind II was brihe. and after bficf
consideration OF the fact-iust a mo-
monts consideration-hc Informed me
that he thought 50. too, although ne
hadn't considered n up TO that time.
Then he told me that innsmuch ~ We
were both agreed on that plan. ne
would request. ~ n friend ~ his, thai
! never should vote for Mr.. Mccunc'
That vas the conversation between MI.
Wins and myself
TO SEE PRESIDENT SNOW.
II there any other matter. Mr.. Jack
son. you want 20 state Ia connection
with that The next morning Mt
WINS sent messenger TO my hon,e AZ
quite an early hour, perhaps o'clock
requesting that I meet him In the
morning aud eo 90 breakfast. and he
came down there with a carriage. and
on the way up he said that he had
been celebrating over the matter, and
concluding that our conclusions the
night before were correct that II was
the Intention ~ Mr. Harris 60 make o.
bid for my vote. ! am not attempting
10 repeat his exact conversation. but
he said he deemed II was very rep.
rehonaihio action. and auKreated that !
gu 10 tho Nnutsfnfd hotel and meet
Judge Colbprn and discuss the matter;
and when I got there We ala have a
discussion. I am not prepared 10 state
whether Mr. golbofn or SIR. WINS had
had a discussion prior 20 that time pr
not because don't KNOW wasn't
present Sir tviHa again told him all
that had taken place. and. after de-
liberation over the matter, Ia Nlcw Of
SIT Wins statements. u was agreed.
upon hir suggestion, that We should 60
aud seek an Interview with President
Lorenzo SNOW ~ tho church Of Jesus
Christ ~ f.attof-dny Saints and lay
this statement before him.
Dickson asked Evans " he thought
this evidence proper Evans knew
nothing about a.. Stewart asked
AZ 10 ~ purpose. Mansfield objected tp
h. Van Sntt asked jackson 60 proceed.
guruuHon was wiilins 10 hva, u, 'uu-
minRH thought n waste " iimc, "
was decided that the testimony be- civ
cu by question and answer.
DO you know anything further MI.
jackson. respecting the matter which
you have ftaied7 Nothing. VIZ. IN reln.
lion To that Transaction except what J
have stated.
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~ q. Wins was sworn. Lives In this
city % years ~ ugo, city editor uf the
Herald. knows Fisher Harris ana G. 81.
jackson.
did you have any conversation with
Fisher Harris respecting tne question
OF securing the vote uf &, NJ. jackson
Tor McCunrs Yes. sir.
when did that conversation occur?
The conversation occurred ON sunday
evening,
At what place. A, the Kenyon no.
tel, Mccune headquarters,
When was thatf ! think, 90 the best
Of my recollection. Il WAS late IN Jan
uhfy. hut | can state an incident that
viii lis the date, u Il II OF import
unce.
The matter began on Saturday even
ms preceding this sunday. ! met 10. q.
chambers on the street. | think Scf-
and South. and, naturally mentioned
tho senatorial contest And IN the
course OF u he said How ~ Jackson
going 90 come out ultimately" l told
him I didn't know. that he was sup
porting a candidate; that N his candi-
date was beaten, ~ course, he coulda't
continue % support him That's all
knew. | said | believed that jackson
would talk a. him about q. lilo Hai1;
"Well | would like To talk II over with
him. / told him / would speak 90 Jack
sou. I didn't care anything about IL, It
Just came NJ In that way, Before We
parted | told MIR. Chambers | thought
Jackson would come up sunday. lie
said he would be away sunday. and
would like 10 have him come up amy
time that evening" and l said would
speak to jackson. | saw Jackson ana
told him what Mr.. Chambers mad said.
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Soldier and Sailor Intelligence.

The Reina Mercedes wrecked in the
Santiago channel in the battle July =
last, has been restored and Is now at
Newport News.
Dewey left Manila for home Satur-
day amid the booming OF cannons aud
the blowing of whistles. He says he
will settle down at his old home in YER
mont.
Maj. j. G Bryant, of the Bird Ken
lucky regiment, says after Investigation
that the reports sent out that the regi-
meut had acted disorderly in Chatta
nooga ana elsewhere on their return,
are without foundation.
James Payne, who was IA corporal ia
the LIST Kentucky, took morphine aud
went TO sleep On the railroad track al
Carlisle, hoping to 90 hence by getting
cut in two, If the morphine failed to dc
It's work. He was taken OF OF the one
and had the other pumped out OF his
stomach, and still lives to suffer the
stings aud arrows of outrageous fortune
Semi-weekly interior journal. [volume] (Stanford, Ky.) 1881-1905, 1899-05-23
CHURCHES AND PREACHERS.

The Cumberland Presbyterlans will
hold their next general assembly at
Chattanooga.
a hourishing sunday school is being
held la the amphtheater Of the Lex
ington running track.
Rev. +. ;. Polltt will hold quarterly
meeting NJ the Methodist church here
next saturday and Sunday.
Miss Lydia Bradley, Of Peoria, ILL.,.
has decided to the Bradley Polytechnic
Institute property valued at $500, 900,
retaining lie interest ia the same.
The Northern Pre-byterians in gem
cral assembly roasted Congress aud the
president for the bill giving Catholics
chapel room on the Wet Point re-
serve.
DR.. Charles Il. Hemphill has tender
ed his resignation a. pastor OF the Sec
oud Presbyterian church. Louisville,
To accept chair Ia the Presbyterian
Theological seminary ia re.
A'pauper woman IN Paris mas been
convicted of having her chill. baptized
fourteen times a. Catholic aud twelve
times as "a Protestant Foe each cere-
mouy she received a dollar and a new
dress for the baby.
The Rev L. r. Semple. ID. D., oil
New York. was elected moderator oI
the Presbyterian Assembly at Mime
apolis. The Southern Presbyterian
Assembly. at Richmond. Va, elected
DR.. John +. Cannon. Of Missouri mod
orator.
Willow Grove Church. two miles from
Hustonville. will be dedicated the 18th
Sunday In June John b. Dinwiddie
who was here saturday. extends a cor
dial welcome Ia the people of this sec
tion. Abundance Of dinner will be or
the grounds.
Owing to financial losses it has beer
found Necessary to curtail the expense,
at Kentucky University. As a result
! Profs. Walter G.. Conley, Henry b
, Robinson and Charles }. Kemper have
) rendered their designations.
/ Rev. J. Il. Flagaley, who has been |
preacher 10 the Methodist Church 70
/ five years. was baptized by Ed J. G
: Livingston in Cedar Creek last week
! Mr. Flagaley had become dissatisfe
b. with his baptism and liked the churc
! government OF the Christian Churc
Q better.
: Ed. Allen Ballou, who by the way
kinsman of Elder Joseph Ballou, pu
In 81 days In March and April durin
which he preached y sermons, receiy
ing into the church, and collects
g only sl335. The Burnside Item say
that Brother Ballou doesn't belong Z
/ the Sam Jones, Moody. Talmage pie
, eating crowd whose motto is mo pa
4 no preach" but is willing, IL seems. q
, preach for 40 cents sermon wit
: chicken ''throwed in" aud II the wick
/ ed editor of this paper is any judge o
I sermons, Brother Ballou can put no
e better job any day than Sam Jones VIII
p won't touch less than 800 for a sermon
Semi-weekly interior journal. [volume] (Stanford, Ky.) 1881-1905, 1899-05-23

Wm. Martin, white man working
for the government at Chickamauga,
got drunk, tied rope around his wife 5
valet, then tied her TO the tail of his
horse and rode AT furious speed thro'
the woods. She was horribly injured
and cannot live. A mob is, after the
brute.
the ear has appointed commits
sion TO substitute another punishment
and abolish transportation TO Siberia,
on the ground that IL had become pre-
judicial To the interests of the country,
aud was a serious obstacle TO the prog
ress OF Siberia.
William Maddox and DR.. Cinnamond,
OF Deioe, Henry county, while under
the influence OF liquor, poured lauda-
mum into alcohol, thinking II was sim
Pile syrup, and drank the decoction,
Both died.
AT Wilmington, Del, Saturday Is
men were publicly logged and two also
stood in the pilory. The good old
whipping post law is still in vogue in
the little State.
The State board OF health has ordered
stop put TO Negro excursions, 10 pre-
vent the spread Of smallpox.
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HUSTONvllIe.

Miss Ida Twid well, Of Elkton, Is the
guest OF her sister. Mrs. Beecher Ad.
ans.
Central Christian College will close
the 3lst. There will be only one grad.
uate. Miss Sallie Stone Pinkerton. II
is with regret We give up the efficient
teachers, Mrs. Lucy and Matte ID.
Lillester, aud hope they will be with
us again next term.
Children's day, a. usual, will be OBJ
served with an interesting program the
first Sunday in June, at the Christian
church. Rev. w. Il. Lloyd, of Rich
mond, will conduct a meeting at the
Christian church at an early date.
Mrs. j. J. Drye, who died last week
in Kansas, spent the greater portion Of
her life here. Too much can not be
said of her piety and lovely, christian
! character and those who knew her best
can speak of her sterling worth and
philanthropy. Many expressions OF
sympathy are extended the family in
this sad bereavement.
Miss Edna Powell has returned from
Temple Hill. where she has had a elias,
in oratory. Ebert Harper has also re
turned from that institution. Mise,
Anna Reid, Lou Hooker, Sally aud Jes
sic Cook spent Friday with Mrs. Fay
cite Dunlap at Danville. Mr. Serb,
Cdmnitz, of Cleveland, O. will arriv,
today to visit his brother. II. r. Cam
ni,z. Misses Pearle Johnston and Maut
Moore, Of Danville. are visiting Mis-
Annie Johnston. Mrs. NJ. j. Wealth
erford has been quite i'll, but is conva
lescing. Miss Pearle Rose Is gradu
ate of Hamilton College and will b.
home in a few days. Mrs. Boyle ha
been i'll with pleurisy. Misses Mar
Pennington, Mary and Elizabeth Hig
gins and Lucy Lee Walton spent Sat
urday with Master Allen Ray Evans
Mrs. J. X. Baughman and Miss Jessi
Powell attended Mrs. Nell Adams Nc
; kidneys recital at Danville Frida
evening.
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HUBBLE.

All Luce and wife are visiting at
Nicholasville.
Sprocks has moved his saw mill from
j. j. Walkers.
+. \. White aud wife are visiting in
Jessamine county.
James Willmot wants to say that he
has plenty OF sweet potato plapts to
give away.
Eubanks Bros. bought flock of sheep
of Dave Thompson for $3.50 a head
with lambs thrown in.
Bro Hanna, from Australia, but
now from Lexington. will preach at the
Christian church hvre Sunday morning
and also at night
l.. G.. Hubble has let the contract ia
build an addition 10 his dwelling near
the store house To Church Yeager and
work will begin at once.
People who attended the county
meeting of the Christian church at Co.
shen, saturday, say that the work done
was good and they never saw 50 much
to eat at any place.
James II. Miner is visiting his SON
in-law, Finley Purdom, Mrs. Lay
and daughter, who have been making
their home at ). Dunbar's for some
years, are going to jamestown to spend
the summer and fall.