The times., 1899-12-20
utah WITNESSES TESTIFY
The Special Committee Hears Eyi
delce Against Roberts.
The Observation-Disclosures Given Tn
iii January 10 Answer ChnrEes-
Little Testimony Remains to Be
Taken An Adjournment Subject
40 the CnH of the Chairman.

. the special committee appointed TO inves-
uEate the charges that have been preferred
against him. This decision was reached in
executive session. after which the commit
Tee adjourned subject TO th.,- call OF The
chairman
le most important testimony Of the
day was that given by former Judge T. J..
Brandon and his son. r. IT, Brandon, of
Geuterville Utah who testified 10 the fact
that Roberts has Two wives. Louisa Smith
aad Celia Dibble Roberts The committee
has but one moro witness 20 examine. He
IS }. II. LgtCher Of salt Lake. He viii be
+ examined by "a subcommittee probably next
week
Spectators Hear the Testimony.
The witnesses who arrived from Utah
Monday night were promptly on hand when
the special committee met at 10 o'clock
yesterday morning As at the previous
hearing. The committee room was crowded
with people, an eager TO hear the testi-
muuy
The first witness examined was Mrs.
Lueila Miles NJ. u. Her testimony was 10
the effect that she had visited in Salt Lake
City for thirty-uiue years Since 1898 she
had been a physician. She was secretary
OF the Medical Society Of Salt Lake City
On april II. 1897 she called on DR. Maggie
Shipp, who informed her that she had
N--Attse-NaA me- AAdA-t nun CAllD 10 tADBEtLSs
and that she had been married 10 Brigham
/ H. Roberts for seven years. The marriage
had taken place before the manifesto.
While l was at the house Roberts came
ln. said the witness. and / was intro
duced 10 him. He acted like the man Of
the house" a
In reply to a question from Roberts wit
ness said she did not recall that Mrs
+ Maggie Shipp Roberts had said this is my
. husband.
Did she tell you personally she was
married to B. H. Roberts"
Yes. sir replied the witness.
At this point Roberts addressed the com
mittee. He objected TO the testimony Of
the witness on the ground that it related
to matters beyond the jurisdiction of the
committee.
Chairman TayIer interrupted by asking
You object TO the competency of any tes-
tlmony which would go to prove your po-
1 lygamous relations practiced prior TO the
4th of March, 1892?
! do" answered Roberts
Your objection will be noted, said the
chairman.
Roberts Formal Plea.
Roberts then entered a formal plea of the
statute of Limitation. as follows:
Roberts submits that no testimony
should be considered % which concern
statutes of limitations. The member from
Utah in criminal prosecution would be
protected from the consideration of acts
barred by the United States statutes of
limitation; how much more then ought the
limitations to be invoked to bar the consid-
GRAFTON Of alleged acts in this proceeding?
The United States statutes Of Limitation
is found in section l04+, No person shall Ue
prosecuted, tried, OF punished for any Of
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tlon 1876 unless the indictment is found or
the information is instituted within three
years next after such offence is commit
ted
Section 1915 alluded to, relates to reve-
nue. offences. where the limits are extended
to five years
As the authority Of this committee over
the member from Utah even if given the
utmost stretch Of its latitude. only ex-
tends 10 the time Of his membership, viz.
From March 1, 1899, he asks that the en-
quiry as TO evidence before this committee
shall be limited to that time
At the conclusion OF his plea s. e Wish
ard, superintendent Of Home Missions OF
the Presbyterian Church, took the stand.
He said he had known Roberts for some
years. During the month of September,
1897, he was introduced 20 Or. Maggie
Sbipp Roberts by Roberts himself The in
A4t1alt t4DL LOOK place Oh a iIdll at AUnfi
Utah. The witness later met DIT. Roberts
at her home in Salt Lake. The sign on
the door read: Dr. Margaret S. Roberts"
Last Friday morning witness said he called
on Dr. Roberts at her home. In the parlor
he saw large picture OF Roberts He
asked If she remembered the introduction
on the train, and she said she did. He
called on Dr. Roberts because he did not
want 20 do an injustice % anyone.
4 Sarcastic ss-IGxumination.
Cross-examiued by Roberts. witness said
he could not remember the exact date OF
the introduction to Or. Maggie 5. Roberts,
but IL was in September. 1897. Witness
denied that he was bitterly opposed to
Mormonism
was Roberts drunk when he introduced
you" asked Roberts
u didn't ask him"
Was he insane2"
Il was not sitting on The case" vas the
answer.
Witness did not remember whether Rob
eTts al the introduction used the words
Mrs Roberts or wife, but he was positive
1t was one or the other lie had never
seen Mrs Roberts before.
Mrs. Maria MacDougal. Of Salt Lake, tes-
lifted she hsd known Mrs. Dr. Maggie
Shfpp Roberts since 1891. She knew Rob
erts by sight. In the summer OF 1895 on
a train az ogden she heard Roberts intro
ducC Or Maggie Ship Roberts As his wife
He also referred 10 her as Sister Roberts.
III answer 10 q question from Roberts,
witness said she was positive she had heard
the Introduction as my Wife and Sister
Roberts.
The next witness examined was Edwin
II. Mcdaniel. His testimony was to the
effect that he had lived In Utah since 1871
and had held O number Of Official positions
He had known b II Roberts for a number
OF years and had been manager of the
salt Lake Herald Roberts was editor OF
the paper for a short time II think" said
the witness "he was editor from Deem
ber lSs5 until May 1886" In politics
witness said he was a Democrat: that he
was member OF the convention t9at nom
mated Roberts for Congress in 1895 and
voted for him. In the latter part Of 1896
witness had o conversation with Roberts
and he said he had three families In an
swer 10 a question witness said he had
long conversation with Roberts in the Of
fee Of the salt Lake Herald just pre-
vious 10 the meeting OF the Democratic
Congressional Convention The conversa-
tiou was about The rumors circulated on
the street regarding the status Of Roberts.
The Fumors were to the effect. the witness
said. that Roberts was living with plural
wives I told Roberts that he could talk
plainly on the matter as ii was charged
that b. had plural wives and was raising
children hy them. Roberts said he had
heard the rumors. bur could not deny them,
but he was satisfied they would not be
made an issue in the campaign He also
said he was certain Eldridge. the Repub-
lCan candidate would nOL raise the QUes-