New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-09


the Roe bling company and also Deputy ass,stam'
District Attorney under Colonel Asa BRO @ ,hi
engineering question TO the Building codes o0n
mission that the probable Zee WOLF De ccryecty
| as / have gone along? A.-That was my opinion
Q~Hsvc you known Of any large matters out
side of the District Attorneys once that MI MT
| Cam has conducted as counseIE Al 90 ho' hio"
In estimating the value OF his services You
IN which ne had demonstrated any particular abl-
ity ~ counsel? A.Mr McCann was retained e,t ~
our company counsel. and / judged possibly
Q-From your own retainer? Wnat reta mi yow
YOU paid Sir. Mccain? Al cannot tell you'
'9oIWhat sums has your company paid MI Nc.
Cam within tho last year? A.-Onr company ""S
never paid Mr.. Mccain any money -. GOT, havn
O-What retainer that he received dld you - -
In mind? A-This was the John A. Roeoins SONS
Company. VIVA, r.,a,oer did the John
4 Roehng sons Company pay You sah OUT OUT,
retainer? Al used 20 conduct the business VIII
r. vrns under the John 4 RoeblIng Company Which
would make that explanation. ...- .,,ns, s,ate
Q.What was that retainer ia g your o NINA ''"''
Q.-When that paid? Al don h"o"
whether 1t was paid at all 10, nm, when in your
mind was It paid? A.-Some time as he"ry a.
can rfM en- bc then S For tho frat time become the
counsel or one OF the counsel to the company
'o.IDo You know whether Mr.. McCann has add iea
to his accomplishment any I kn1"i tbihr Mr. Nc
Cam pretends TO be an engineer or to understands
the technical part Of construction. 49, .,.o.-,,,
nat YOU wanted Of him was Of different KING
Ale to be our counsel and attorneS yeS ~
,eeaI matter in which Mr.. Mccann rendered ssa
services to your company as' Year, " ~
nave MCANN's CHIEF SERVICE.
| Q-What was It? Aver since the buliuihs
| Code Commission was considered or contemplate
We have intended to have an attorney to represent
rs and TO present our properly before that
| Commission and If possible have the John A.
Roebling Sons Company retain Mr.. Mccain par
! ticulary for that purpose at that Time although
QAnd that is the matter Of all matters ter Which y
you have had In mind IS NOT H ~ r Erin Mr.
Mccain for that same kind OF services that you
Q.-And to retain Mr. Mccain? A-That was a
o.-You suggested IT 10 hlm7 A.-once, later on
Q.-What did you say to Mr.. Wright? A-Our
c coversa Win Win NJ watson ''
Q.-Those three matters sum up your recollection
the retainer Of 5000 and for the prospective
tainer from tho expanded metal company; 5000 and
pany 5000 or $4,000. is that right? A.-Yes. sir.
MCANN on THE STAND.
At this point Mr. Mccain took the witness chair
to be sworn a witness.
BY Mr.. Moss: Q.-Where is your office? Al have
desk room in No. 14s Broadway with the firm o.
Senator Grady. Smith & Crandell I am not con-
nccted with the nrm at al.
Q.-Are YOU related TO Mr.. Croker, Al refuse
2IMiWhy? That does not tend to degrade or IN
ing public investigation or for the framing or
any laws | will answer it.
OWN you swear that you not a relative OF
Mr.. Croker either by blood or By marriage? Al
reuse to answer the question, MI. Moss
nent to ths Investigation? Al presume 50. yes.
The Charman-I think it Is material to the line
you should answer that question.
Al VIII say yes. sra nephew
Al have been counsel tor Roebling Sons Com
pany OF Trenton. \. j.. here in New-York
Al am counsel for no other corporation.
co1,n-fr9r What other business companies are you
should disclose what clients I have '''1'
business comPanIcs AThey Would pr be " Clients Gner
refuse d v TO- answer Ess that question
wright az TO your being brought into contact with
Q-W6c?c did You meet ne f them? Al met repre-
Snrc t9 0s some OF these repropng interests
Q-Whom dd you meet there Of your own COM
Briggs; and think Mr Croker was present
o;r not me purpose Of that meeting TO get
mission to represent them? Am pursuance
Ono. answer that. A-Not exactly. The DUR
pose OF that meeting was that these companies had
show the merit OF their system Of freproodng and
they thought that as long az they were naturally
together. I went over and had some conversation
with the representatives. Of the company. and
talked IN a general way what the purpose was in
framing the law and what could be done. and they
asked my opinion various things I told them
AT that Tine that did not want to undertake
such matter alone. that I was a rather young
man to do that | said that II they could get
together and come before this Commission and
prove tho merit OF their system thought thar they
would receive consideration. They wanted to know
what the idea Of tn" Commission was what they
could count | told them | did not know. II
entirely speculative.
ASKED ABOUT THE COMMISSION.
The Chairman--Do you say they asked you