The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-28

I want everything. Just as particular
as the facts will justify it. 1 do not;
l couldn't give the exact time.
You don't remember everything that
you said to him either, do you, while
you were there? No; 1 don't know as
could repeat it word for word; it would
be very hard thing for me to do.
Simply because you were not charging
your memory with it? Certainly.
And had it not been for this charge
against you you would have thought
nothing more about il. would you?
don't think you could repeat your last
question word for word
Well, answer the question? l don't
know as I would have thought much
about it; it might be if it had been call
ed to my attention.
You began to think about it after this
charge was made? Yes, sir.
Talked with Mr.. Monson? Yes.
And talked with Mr.. Sloan? Yes.
And tried to harmonize each other
about what occurred? Yes, sir
On that occasion? One would ask
the other what he had done and it
would come back to us.
Was Mr. Thurman with you when
you were trying TO harmonic these
matters? Not that 1 know of.
Didn't he examine you and Mr.. Mon
L.
Didn't he write that statement which
you had published? I couldn't even
say that.
Isn't that Sam Thurman's language?
That all might be; Sam Thurman was
there.
And didn't he write that statement
which you issued to the News? That
1 couldn't say.
Don't you know that he did? I do
not.
GOOD LITERARY STYLE.
You don't know whether this is his
| language? I know that Sam Thurman
was there and advised on it.
That fine literary style? Yes.
That indicates Sans language,
| doesn't it? That I couldn't say. You
may be more familiar. l know that he
helped get the statement up. Whether
he did the writing or the debating, 1
couldn't say, but it is one and the same
| thing whether he did 1t or not.
He supervised it? Yes; certainly he
did He was sitting there while the
rest of us were getting it up.
Didn't he write it out? That 1
couldn't say; he may have wrote it, as
far as I know.
And have it transcribed with a type
writer? That l couldn't say.
Well. when it was read to YOU
! Qnterrupting.) Because L was in and
out of the rooms; L didn't stay there
with them when it was being done.
You were not there when the writing
was gotten up? I was in and out.
And they were writing it and getting
| it up? Yes.
And after they had got it finished,
then Sam read it to you, didn't he?
Yes.
He read it over carefully? Yes. sir.
Did he change any word? Yes; may
have done that.
I You know when he read it to you
whether he did or not? l don't know.
You even went out when he read it
about it, and 1 said, TOO many cooks
spoil the BROTH and went out.
And you then went out while they
We're reading it to you? No.
1 ask you. while it was being read
over to you, whether any words were
changed? No.
Didn't you sign it? 1 don't know
whether 1 signed it or not.
At ali events, you approved it? Yes.
I don't think 1 did sign it.
Don't you know who wrote that? No;
I don't know who wrote it. You can
virtually say Sam Thurman did write
it. because he was the lawyer that de-
vised it. What is the difference?
Exactly Sam fathers it, and on ac-
written it? I would think that Sam
Thurman wrote it, then.
That Sam Thurman wrote it I
will put that palmer, so you Will get
to the end OF that.
He wrote it? Yes; he wrote it.
And he wrote it while you were in
and out of the room? Yes.
Catching a word from you occasion
ally? No, sir; l had made my state
ment before
You had made your statement before?
Yes.
When? I had talked to him duvi=g
the evening.
Some time during the evening? Yes,
sir.
lie didn't sit down and write it out
when you told him about it? Yes; 1
==oss he did.
THURMAN WROTE IT.
At that particular time? Yes; at that
particular time.
Then it was not afterwards? No; it
wasn't afterwards.
Why did you say that you had told
him before that? I didn't say that 1
had.
Didn't you tell me just now that it
was before? l think you are all mixed
on the time; l am not telling the exact
minute that he wrote ii.
Didn't You tell me? / am trying to
set this just as you want it, SO that
you can get through with that ques-
ton.
Well, in that, Mr. McCune, you are
very accommodating? l am; am per-
fectly willing to put it just the way
YOU want IT,
Well. it isn't as I want it: I would
like to have the facts, is all I care
about you had told Mr.. Thurman
about this statement, you say? Yes,
sir.
About this matter which was after
wards reduced to writing? Yes, sir.
When did you tell him that? I told
him that evening.
That Saturday evening? Yes. sir
What time in the evening? When he
was writing Il.
oh, you were telling him, and ne was
sitting down writing it? Yes; l told
him; ] admit that he wrote it,
Then, as you told him, he sat down
and wrote it. did he? Yes.
That is the idea? Yes.
Why couldn't you have said that on
yesterday. when | asked you who wrote
il? I told you that 1 was in and out
now your way.
Didn't you say some of your men
wrote it there? So far as I know, it
possibly might have been done; it cuts
no figure whether somebody else did
the penciling part of it and he dictated
it.
I see Sam is the villain?
Didn't you say that yesterday? /
G:G.
You call Sam one of your men, do
yo,!? Yes.
Now, then, did you sit down like you
are there. and simply with a piece of
paper like this, and didn't he write as
Won dictated? | guess so