The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-26


Yes? Is that I never had seen him
there that I know of.
You didn't think to ask Mao why he
didn't tell him to come UP there and
talk? No, sir
He had plenty of rooms up there,
didn't he? Yes.
And there was no difficulty about
finding rooms to talk privately with
people when II was desired? I don't
think there was.
The headquarters were not crowded
enough for that? No, sir. there wasn't
many there that morning; it was in the
morning.
And you advised him that you
thought it would be bad policy 10 re-
ceive his vote on the first ballot, that
if he desired to change his vote after
he was elected that would be all right,
or words to that effect? No; I can re-
state that if you desire me to.
All right, 1 may have misunderstood
you. l said to Mr.. McCune that l
! didn't think we would need his vote,
but 1 says after we have had two or
three, two, or say three ballots, if you
find, you may say to him, If you find
| out you are then one vote of being
elected, and he wants to come, you
might say to him it would be all right,
and let us get rid Of this thing; l am
tired of it, and perhaps we might con-
sent TO it on that theory.
That is, if Mac wasn't elected, II
you had two or three votes and he
wasn't elected then, your judgment was
! that he might say TO Mr.. Law, when he
met him after these two or three votes
had been taken, he might change and
vote for McCune? Yes, if his vote
would elect him.
If mis- vote would elect him? Yes, sir.
i i solo
tiouS scruples. then, about receiving a
Republican vote, if necessary in order
to elect him? I felt that 1 would ac-
cept it under the circumstances.
In other words, your state of mind,
Mr.. Evans, l suppose, was that if Mr..
McCune could get enough Democratic
votes he would prefer them? Yes
But if you found he could not get
enough after balloting once or twice,
you would yield the point and be willing
to take a Republican vote? Yes, and
get rid of the matter, but l told him at
the same time that l expected he would
be elected that day.
You expected he would be elected that
day some time during the progress of
the day? Yes, sir.
You We're not, however, exporting it
on the first ballot, were you? Yes, 1
was.
Then if you were, why did you tell
Mr.. McCune, that after voting two or
three times, If he were not elected you
would take his ballot? Why did I tell
him that?
Yes. Well, I thought it was possible
that they wouldn't all come II. first
thought possibly they might not, and
might come on the second, and possibly
on the third and if they did not. why,
that was about our usual number of
ballots, and 1 thought then if they did
not come on the third ballot, if Mr..
Law wishes to change his vote and
close the matter up, it would be all
right.
Then there was a little discussion be-
tween you and Mr.. McCune as to some
other votes being cast that day besides
the one ballot? Yes.
You didn't have it entirely settled
between you there that all you had to
do was to go down and cast one ballot
and elect him? We couldn't settle that;
I thought that would be the result, but,
of course. I didn't know.
GAVE HIS OPINION.
But you discussed some other .contin-
gencies? We'd, yes, we did, 1 pre-
sumo 1 did most of the discussing as
remember it; he asked me my opinion,
and I outlined it to him in the way
have given it here.
At all events, there were discussions
there as to other ballots being cast;
you have stated that, I think? Well,
don't know
You didn't just sit down together
there and say, Now, here, there isn't
any use of having his vote, because you
Will be elected on the first ballot any
way? No, sir.
1t didn't stop there. did it? No, it
did not.
But there was discussion as to the
probability of there being a number OF
ballots, and you thought that during
the progress of the day Mr.. AIcCune
would be elected? / don't know that
said anything about a, number of bal
lots. other than as I have explained.
You said two or three? Yes, I said
perhaps after taking two or three bal
lots that you are not elected on the
first or on the second, give the boys a
chance up to three; perhaps we will
take no more ballots than that, and If
Mr.. Law desires TO change his vote and
settle the matter. if that wiH do it,
will accept it, but under no other con-
ditions.
That is, you would not accept it on
the first ballot if he thought he had
enough Democratic ballots to elect
him? No, sir.
But a few minutes later, if he didn't
have enough. you would be willing to
accept it? Yes.
So that there was some talk about
some other contingency which might
arise in\the future. by which Mr.. Laws
vote would be desirable, wasn't there?
Yes, sir; in my mind.
Questions by Mr.. Howells:
Did you advise against Mr.. McCune /
going to see Mr.. Law? I don't think I
did. If I did, I didn't positively do so;
perhaps 1 might have discouraged him
going at all; 1 am not sure about that. I
You were not present when Mr.. Nc !
Cune returned from the drug store? .
No sir; 1 had come down to the .
building.
HARRIS THE MANAGER.
A. w. McCune. being recalled in his .
own behalf, testified as follows: Ex- /
animation continued by Mr.. Thurman: I
Mr. McCune, do you give your per-
sonal attention to the management of .
your campaign, or have you left it en-
tirely with Mr.. Harris and his assist
ants. whoever he may have? Well, I /
might say that 1 have, and / have .
not, but l am governed by their adj (
vice altogether. I have been there the .
greater part of the time myself.
Who has the handling of the money
for expenses, yourself or Mr.. Harris,
or both of you? Both of us; Mr.. Har-
ris generally; the bulk OF it that has
been spent-well, don't know the bulk
Of it-probably l have spent just about
as much as he has.
Have you any account of about what
your expense has been for the cam
paign, or can you give an estimate to
the committee Approximately Yes; 1
think it runs somewhere between eight /