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The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

There Is more Catarrh In this sec
tlOn OF the country than all other di.
seases Put together, aud until the last
few years was supposed TO be incur
able. For great many years doctors
pronounced u local disease, and pre-.
scribed local remedies, and by con
stantly falling to cure with local
treatment, pronounced 10 incurable
Science has proven catarrh 20 be a
constitutional disease, and therefore
requires constitutional treatment
Halls Catarrh Cure, manufactured by
II. j. Cheney & Co., Toledo, Ohio, Is
the only constitutional cure On the
market. 10 Is taken internally ia
doses from 10 drops tO a teas poOnful
| 3 acts directly on the blood end mu.
cous surfaces OF the system. They OF.
fer one hundred dollars for any case
10 falls 10 cure. Send for circulars
aud testimonials. Address,
H. j. CHENEY & co, Toledo, o.
Sold by Druggists, 85c.
Ialls Family Pills are the best.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Blow Your Own Horn

and blow Il hard. The cheapest. Quick.
est and best way 10 make yourself heard
when you have a proposition Ia present
To the people of Salem, is ca use th,
Journal want columns.
Most any sort OF a proposition will
strike somebody Just right but Won
must get al a great number of people 4
Non want Ia ferret out some particulal
few.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

Miss Mary Cawthorn, oi Corvallis. is
visiting at the home oi Rev. ". 4.
kantner ON Liberty street.
Mr., aud Mrs. James Allison left this
morning Tor Argrnti for a short outing.
Miss Connie llandsaker went IA
Engene yesterday 10 visit with friends.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
A Child Rnloys

The pleasant flavor, gentle action, aud
soothing effect OF Syrup Of Figs, when
IN need of a laxative, and II the father
or mother be cOstiYe or bilious, the
most gratifying results follow It's use
80 that u Is the best family remedy
known and every family should nave a
bottle, Manufactured by the Cali
fornia Fig Syrup Co.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

A diseased stomach undermines
health, IL dulls the brain, destroys
the nervous system. All dyspeptic
troubles are cured by KOdol Dyspepsia
Cure. 1t has cured thousands of cases.
Its ingredients are such that it can't
help curing. Stones Drug Stores.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Notice to Contractors

The Board OF Directors of School Dis.
trict No. "a, will receive bids not later
them Aug. 5, 1899, for repairing furnaces
of the North, East and Lincoln school
buildings, according TO the specifications
on file with the clerk.
BY order OF Board of Directors.
Z IL til j. BAuMGARrNER. clerk.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

WMr, and Mrs. J. w. Beckley and chill.
dren, Mrs Jaquet, Mrs. r. Bernhart.
Misses Lena and Martha SCHNEIDER. Mrs
;. Zudi and children, Mrs. p. Bernhart
and master Peter Bernhart all went 10
Milwaukee 10 attend Methodist Camp.
meeting The entire party will camp
ont for a week.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

DeWitts Little Early Rlsers ben
ett permanently. They lend gentle
assistance 10 nature, curing cOnStipa.
tion and liver ailments. Stones Drug
StOrp9
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
. - - ~ &, Ia K "a.
Bears the n The Kind YOU Have A6ayS BOugh
Signature % &HH2AIZn
For the Seaside.

Your family want the home news at
the Seaside. The DAILY Journal will
be sent by mail at special summer re-
sort rate of One Cent Day. No order
taken for less than ten cents. 7-lStf
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
"Sweet Home

II you want fresh home made candy,
ice cream, ice cold summer drinks, or a
good cigar call ut the "Sweet Home"
No. 229ls Commercial street. 72Otf
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

Thomas Rhoads, Centerfeld, o.,
writes: ~ suffered from piles seven
or eight years. No remedy gave me
relief until DeWitt's Witch Hazel
Salve," perfectly harmless, Stones
Drug StOreS
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Amateurs.

When you are looking for some one to
do your developing and finishing, re-
member that the Elite Studio is doing
first class work at moderate prices.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

"What might haYe been"-is the
sad reflection OF thousands OF con
sumptives. One Minute Cough Cure
cures coughs and colds. Stones Drug
Stores
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

The Best Prescription for Malaria.
emile and Fever 4 bottle OF GROVES TAsrE-
Lhss Lhss NilLL TONIC. Il Ia simply lion and
Vnlhlhe lh lAsioless iorm, No cure, no pay,
'HNe eOo' 7-l7 4 Sw fm
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Everything In

oyeralls, jumpers, gloves and shirts for
harvest at the New York Racket. ~ "A
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

Dawson Herb Tea Is selling like hot
cakes because 10 does the work.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Annual Encampment,

Oi John A. Logan Veteran Reunion
Association az Mehama, Or. commenc-
ing August and CONTINUING tbron,'b
the week, Good speakers and amnse-
ments provided for vouns ana olS
Everyone earnestly invited 10 benres.
ent, especially all ex-soldiers siiiors
and marines 81 the war Of 1867 IS. as Well
as soldiers OF the war Will Spain ~ |S' ,Sa
Philippines. VI '''
IS lm Rv order NJ ...,..,.;,.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

ne steamer has been equipped with hrsi-
etSss Recommendations including an elegan I
UnsuTpassed for carrying both height aud
boek-Fooi oi State street.
ID y. EDkS Agent.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

Is beautiful dappled chestnut l61R
hands high, and weighs 100 lbs. He is
a perfect all purpose horse.
Will be at Huffman's stable, Salem,
Saturday of each week in July and Aug
ust, and the remainder of the week at
the Fair Grounds. Terms, $500 to in.
sure.
Also colts broken and handled for
speed. ii. b. RUTHERFORD.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
Corvallis 4 Eastern Railroad
TIME CARD.

One and two connect at Albany ana
Corvallis with Southern Pacific tlalns,
giving direct service b aud from New
port and adjacent beaches.
No. q runs from Albany % Corvallis
on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays
only.
No. 5 runs from Corvallis 10 Albany
on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Satur'
days only.
Trains for the mountains arrive at
Detroit at noon, giving ample tiule
70 reach camping grounds 90 the
Breitenbush and Santiam river the
same day.
a. l.. WALDEN EDWIN STONE,
,. &P.A. Manager
J. TURNER Agent Albany. Ore.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

Many persons die OF neglect, Dawson
Herb Tea fixes 'em.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
wIILAMETTE,RIvER DIVISION
STEAMER ALBANY,

Captain ZumAlt
Running between Portland and Corvallis
stepping AZ all way landings.
RIVER SCHEDULE
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
AsITITFORD

In most of the gardens OF this
district there has been good progress in
growth during the past week, and the
bine may be said generally 10 have
pretty well overtaken all arrears. There
are OF course few exceptions TO this state
Of affairs, some gardens being rather
slack of bine owing to the attacks of the
wireworm and the result OF the recent
dry weather.
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27
A LIFE SAVED.

Drill F, Cook, the Botanical Spec
allst. Succeeds Where Other
Fail
The daily journal. (Salem, Or.) 1899-1903, 1899-07-27

The hops continue to make good prog
ress, the bine looking healthy although
somewhat uneven in most gardens.
There is certainly an increase in YER
mia since ! last wrote, but even now
not enough 10 cause planters 10 wash.
The wind during the past two days has
blown the heads away from the strings
and caused good deal Of extra labor in
training.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19

Twenty-Five pairs in Chenl,les,
Derbys and Tapestrys, good choice of
colors, fringed top and bottom, our
$3.50 to $3.50 Portlerres, Friday and
Saturday any pair SI95
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19

E c. Rognon was at the New NAM
moth yesterday making an investigation.
]. d. Beasley will leave for Oregon to-
day TO assist in putting up a mill at the
Great Northern mine.
p. r. Farnsworth is in Bingham look
ing after the installation of the pumping
plant at the Dalton q Lark.
The delinquent sale of Golden Eagle
stock occurred yesterday. Inc ASSESS
ment was paid on nearly all of it
The Taylor x Brunton sampler report
ed the receipt of two cars of ore from
Stockton and thirteen from T1ntic yester-
day.
The Horn Silver reported the receipt of
two cars of silVer-lead, one car of copper
ore and three cars of concentrates yes
tcrday.
An expert employed by Samuel New
house has just returned from Nevada,
where he made an examination oil copper
property.
A carload of ore arrived in the market
from the Lower Mammoth yesterday. An
other car is being loaded at the mine for
shipment.
Victor NJ Clement OF the De Lamar
mines states that the opuon on the Rover
mine. recently announced in The Herald,
has been closed.
4 party consisting of Ben Luce, Albert
Preece, o. B. Green and r. p. jenkins
will go to Bingham this morning to make
an examination of the Congor
John r. Porter. an old Leadville miner,
is reported to have made a strike OF good
gold-bearing ore in the WaSatch noun
tains just outside the city limits OF Og-
den.
A G. Bast has no interest in the Horse
shoe mine in the Deer Lodge district. Ne.
vada. as stated. The property is owned
by r. c. LInd, Allan q. Campbell and
others.
An exhibition of ore from the Acorn
mine. which adjoins the Wedge. in the
Gold mountain district, is being displayed
in the windows of the Salt Lake Hard
ware company.
George W. Jones will act as catcher for
the Utah Stock Exchange nine, and
Ralph Guthrie will occupy a similar posi-
the brokers ball game tomorrow.
The mineral display at the Utah ex-
change rooms will soon be in place The
cabinets are neatly arranged about the
room and the ores contained in them rep
resent well the numerous camps of the
state.
Mr.. George o. Bradley has received in
which he represents in this city, have Just
sold a big lot of machinery TO the Copper
Queen Mining company at BiSbee, ArlZ.,
for a large addition to its smelter. Mr.
Bradley is at work on the plains and spec
ifications, which hre to be sent on to
Bisbee.
Frank Y. Taylor has returned from 4
trip to Bingham. where he made an eX-
animation of the Kremlin. He reports
that a ten-inch vein of good ore was
struck while he was on the ground. He
brought in some samples and is of the
opinion they will run at least 60 per cent
lead and % ounces in silver to the ton.
The shaft in the Kremlin is down 30 feet
and will be continued twenty feet further
before drifting will commence.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
TALKS OF THE WEDGE
Mrs. M. j. Ryan Tells About the
Rich Claim.
HEAVY GOLD VALUES
ruTTT
GOLD VALUES
SHIPMENTS WILL BEGIN EARLY
NEXT MONTH.
Numerous Offers Have Been Made
For the Property. But It's Owners
Have Refused to Sell Out at Any
Price-Dr. J. C. E. King Thinks
He Has Bonanza.


Mrs. NJ ]. Ryan, who owns consider
able more than a control of the stock
in the Wedge and Treasure Vault
mines in the Gold Mountain district, is
IN the city on business. She confirms
the statement made by Mr.. Dalton, an
,ther owner of stock, that shipments
of high-grade ore will begin about the
18th of June. or just as soon as the
snow disappears sufficiently to make
the roads paSsable.
She brought up with her some speci-
mems of ore taken from a rich streak
about thirteen inches wide in the VEN
matter that will run away up into the
thousands of dollars to the ton.
Mrs. Ryan has had numerous offers
for her interests in the Wedge and
only last week Denver parties offered
her 80 cents a share for her stock;
which she refused. Had she accepted
the proposition made her she woul1
haye received considerably over slJu,OVu
in cash for her interests. The Wedge,
from all reports, is miraculously flch
and mining men who have seen the
property say il is worth every cent OF
81 a share and after the first shipment
is made this year il is said by those
same gentlemen that Mrs. Ryan can
easily get that amount for her stock
Mrs. Ryan believes the Treasure
Vault is equally as good as the NeiSS-
II is an adjoining property and she
expects to cut the same vein opened III
the Wedge by running the tunnel ABOUT
400 feet further
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
RETURN Of JOHN TREwEEK.
He Has Been In Australia Since Last
October.

John Treweek, who left here in Octo-
ber. last to examine some of the mining
districts in Australia for British inves-
tors, reached home yesterday afternoon,
looking hale and hearty. When seen
last evening Mr.. Treweek told OF his
travels in the land of gold, sand, sun
and abominable water.
He visited the Broken Hills district,
in New South Wales, which is low
grade, silver-lead section. splendldly
mined and poorly concentrated. After
some three weeks in the Broken Hills
district, he went to Freemaatle, West
Australia, and from there to Kalgoorlle
and Coolgardie, examining the magnlil-
cent gold districts and all the principal
mines at these places. He reached Lon
don about a month ago, experiencing
the worst kind of weather, ana is very
glad to be home again.
Mr.. Treweek was not disposed TO say
whether he had any special business
here at this time, but as he is not sure
that he will remain more than a month
or so, it is fair to presume That he mas
work of some kind ahead of him Tor MS
English associates.
eAt present." said Mr.. Treweek, Il
am not prepared to tell you what bust
ness 1 have in hand. / can say, now
ever. that Just now Australia has the
call on British money as far as gold
mining is concerned, but great inter-
est is being taken in copper invest
mentS in America.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
BUYS INTO MAGNOLIA.
George C. Fetterman of De Lamar,
Closes a Deal.

George c. Fetterman, the well known
hardware merchant of De Lamar,
New, arrived in the city yesterday to
close up important matters, among
which was a deal in which he comes
into possession of a one-sixth. interest
in the Magnolia mine of that camp.
This interest in the property has been
owned heretofore by John Purtscher,
who received from Mr.. Fetterman the
sum of $1,000. The other owners of the
mine are L. r. Jones of this city and
Mr.. j. Eisman of De Lamar
The Magnolia is rich mine, and is
heavy producer of ore. No shipments
are made of ore running under 5000 to
the ton, so Mr.. Fetterman states A
shipment of this ore is now on the
road, and it is expected in the market
in few days. About 1000 tons of lower
grade ore that viii run from $40 to $50
is on the dump. The last ear shipped
TO market here is said to have Melted
$4,000
Mr.. Fetterman is working several
claims adjoining the April Fool, which
was recently sold by w. j. Dolly and
others. He is working a force of men
night and day, and states the property
is showing up fine.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
Mining Stock Market Remains De-
pressed and Featureless.
DAISY STILL DECLINES
MAMMOTH ACTIVE, BUT AT
LOWER FIGURES.
Showers Consolidated and Northern
Light Sell at stationary Prices
On the Utah Exchange 10000
Cedar Valley Sells at Three
fourth of Cent.

The volume of business transacted on
the exchanges yesterday was consider
ably better than Wednesday. No par
ticular stock seemed to be a faVorite,
but the business was we'll distributed
for the amount of trading done.
Daisy was fairly active, but the stock
was on the decline, and the bear ele-
ment seemed to have it about all their
own way. Ajax sold at stationary
prices, 200 shares going at $1-491a.
Mammoth was a victim of the bears,
and sold down to s1.S6. Showers Con-
solidated was bought at prices ranging
from 40 cents up to Ala, and Northern
Light brought 741a cents "a share.
Valeo was on the upgrade, and sold
at advanced prices. Eight hundred
shares found takers at $1.14.
The total sales of the Utah exchange
were 80, 800 shares of selling value of
sl,9S7.62. Antler was active at the usual
prices, and 10000 shares of Cedar Val
ley were knocked down at q of a cent.
Chloride Point was in the dumps, and
the only strength it manifested was
S21s cents. Martha Washington sold as
low as 10$s, 1000 shares going at that
figure, and 500 went at 105s. Silver City
Consolidated was also a seller, and 1000
shares were unloaded at y of a cent.
Daly-West was offered at 1896, but no
DIohet Wdlttu tHe STOCK DIT lIdl n5Gie e
Emerald was offered at 141a, with 1874
bid. Eagle & Blue Bell was offered at
$50, but none was on the market for
s1.35, the amount bid.
The stock market is still in de-
pressed condition. 1t is absolutely fea-
tureless, and until an important strike
of some kind is made or something else
transpires to cause activity, the same
condition may be expected for some
time.
The quotations posted yesterday were
as follows:
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
SOUTHERN QUEEN Is FAVORED.
Prospects Good For Taking Out Rich
Ore Very Soon.
Especial Correspondence.)


Diamond. May 1S.-The Southern
Queen Gold Mining company. consist
ing of the Southern Queen and Tom
Paine claims, and which embraces all
the territory between the Joe Bowers
Extension and the Morning Glory, is
regarded with much favor in this local
itv. The company's ground also paral-
lels the once-celebrated Isabella-Vic-
toria. property, from which thousands
of tons Of rich ore has been extracted,
and adjoins the Last Chance, winch at
present is producing a nice grade OF
mineral.
The amount of development work up
To the present time is not extensive,
only enougb TO demonstrate most con-
clusively that the company's holdings
are enthusiastically in the radius OF the
big ore zone known to exist in TINS I'M
mediate vicinity. a shaft was sunk to
n depth of seventy-fiVe feet on the
Southern Queen, commencing on the
big vein at the surface, but at a Ceplh
of twenty-five feet the ledge pltched 10
the west, and work was continued YER
tically. At the bottom of the shaft
small crosscut was run. more for the
purpose of determining the pitch or the
vein than TO search for ore, which re
vealed small stringers or ore-feeders OF
galena character in small, nut-Shaped
boulders all through the crevice mat
ter. which. also, is strongly mineral
lied.
The ledge has been opened at various
points. and in all places shows pro-
nounced strength, and strata of min
eral formation, denoting the presence OF
copper associated with silver and lead.
The writer is informed that the cor
poration is chiefly composed OF titan
people. who purpose doing considerable
exploiting and development work TINS
summer. which, if carried out, must
show most fiattering results.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
Ell REY STE..l HOIST.
Will Be Put In Position at the Mine
Today.
(specia! Correspondence

Especial Correspondence
Silver City, May 1S.-The big steam
hoist for the Ell Rey company, COM
posed of Messrs. Hatfield, Ritter and
Loose, to be placed over the Elmer Ray
shaft. is due TO arrive today, having
left Salt Lake yesterday. Superintend-
ent A L. Toll has been extremely busy
with a force OF men, erecting the gal
lows frame and shaft house, and is now
ready to place the machinery in posi-
ton Great things were performed by
this remarkable mine along in the '70s.
but greater events are predicted for its
future.
Possibly the product from the deep
may not disclose such rich horn and
native silver ores as We're extracted and
hauled to the old smelter at Homans-
vile years ago, but when the manage
ment gets below the sulphide belt it is
believed the volume of mineral will
more than compensate for the rich
pockets that formerly characterized the
workings.
Just such shaft as the owners gen.
orally have sunk is being PUT down
double compartment. manway. and
timbered true to the fraction OF an
inch. Lumber is on the ground TO carry
il to a depth of 500 feet. though the
writer is informed that it is the inten-
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
COPPER NEAR KANAB.
Joseph E. Ray Speaks of His Prop
erty In Buckskin Mountains.

Joseph Z. Ray, the well-known min
ing operator of Fillmore, is in the city.
He has just come up from the southern
part of the state, where he has recently
acquired a large group of claims in the
Buckskin mountains near Kanab- Mr..
Ray owns over twenty claims in one
group. and, judging from what he has
TO say about them, he has the founda-
ton for a big copper mine.
He has force of men at work taking
out ore, some of which is high grade
and rich enough to stand transpoTta-
ton charges to Salt Lake and net a
handsome profit. He expects to start
shipments al once, and if they pan out
as he believes they will, he will keep
them up regularly.
Ii is the ultimate intention of Mr.
Ray TO put up a smelling plant. This
he will probably do this summer. He
says he has an immense showing Of
copper on his property and with a
smelter on the ground he could furnish
employment for several hundred men
to take out pay ore.
The location of his claims is con-
venient to water and fuel. making the
cost of smelling a matter of compare
lively little Importance.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
A New Shipper.

The Nevada Mining company, cor
poration organized in this city some
two months ago to operate property
in the Battle Mountain mining district,
Nevada, some fourteen miles from Ga
lena, on the Southern Pacific railroad.
was in the market Wednesday with a
car of ore which contained some six
teen tons and sold at net profit to the
company of s260.26. Another carlot is
booked to arrive today, and George
Dern. the president of the company. is
i'm high spirits over the outlook for the
concerns future. The ore settled for
yesterday showed the following assay
values: Silver, 1875 ounces. 22.95 per
cent lead and $3.50 in gold A shaft is
being sunk on the ledge, and it con-
tains good ore all the way down. w.
" Andrew, the company's vice presi-
dent, is managing the mine, which
promises to make a big record for pro-
duction in the very near future.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
.ANDREE HEARD FROM AGAIN
LETTER IN BOTTLE FOUND ON
COAST OF ICELAND.
Said to Have Born Arctic Balloon
lists Own Stamp-Has Been Mail
ed to Polar Expedition at Goetberg

Leith, Scotland. May 1S.-The Nor
wegian ship Viking, which arrived here
yesterday from Soydisfjord, brought a
report of letter written by Profess
SCR Andree which was found in a bot
tie early in April near Riotung. on the
northeast coast of Iceland, by farmer
named Johan Magnussen. The letter
was then in a bottle. and was addressed
to the Polar Expedition at Goeteberg.
and bore Andree's own stamp. with the
request that it be placed in the nearest
postoffice
Magnussen, it is said gave the letter
to merchant, Sveinn Einason, at
Thistilfjord. who mailed il. and it is
expected to arrive at its destination in
the course of few days.
At the same time the Viking brought
letter to prominent Icelander, now
in London, advising him of the facts,
and requesting him to telegraph to the
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-05-19
SEEKING MORE WATER.
The siIves. King Offers Hosting
Plant to the Comstock.

The Silver King Mining company Of
Park City is anxious TO increase its
supply of water, the need of which has
bee:i more keenly felt since the cree
ton of its big concentrating mill. and
the question of how to obtain II has
been under serious consideration Man
ager Dusseldorf of the Comstock In
Thayne,s canyon was questioned re-
garding il yesterday.
YES he said, ''the King people want
to get water from the Comstock. and
they have offered me a complete hoist
ing plant in exchange for the exclusive
use of the water from the mine The
offer, in some respects. is a very gem
erous one. but | cannot see my way
clear TO give them what they want, Tor
/ expect to need water myself when
the nil e reaches producing stage. as