New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-20
GO. that for many years the specifications In re-
snsrd to these clay pipes had been the same? A.
us PIPE is INCLUDED.

HIS PIPE is INCLUDED.
. Sow let me ask you this: Would your pipe.
IN vour opinion an engineer, and as having had
,ha experience OF ten years In the Department.
.o,ra within the description IN the specification az
,,ssd pror TO the LIST day OF January 1899? A
rs os':LThey would? A.-Yes sir: , min.
Ger been presented TO the Department. A.-The
for the II n this
and the men from many any gPe arRe had
sd f TO sfi the only Il had
>ssn used up there was because II had never been
pIesYou say that the description in this speciaca-
ton would allow the use OF your pipe? A.-Yes sir
.nsciacaton after the LIST of January and to de-
scribe your pipe more particularly! Al didn't
Know oMYou ' never heard OF it? A.-No. sir.
,hst there was an ailuson which applied directly
10 your pipe. and not to these smaller pipes? A.
gan Won Know that on the plans and prohles
Of the Anna Place sewer job that your pipe was
'P o"Did you not know that question had been
made the sna TowS yonsaen
equal TO the pipe called for by that spechcation7
a oNSeyer heard about that? A.No sir
DIDN'T you know that the plans showed a
written by the PRONE wSGs don
know that: sir: no si, That, A, have heard Of i,
IN THE North Side News not on the plan
PRACTICAL MONOPOLY.
of the plans and profile should show such
.,atement as that. that would include your pipe?
A-yes that would include my pipe
o-And would not include any OF the pipe which
haa been formerly used. would II? Alive the
chance for each man to present his pipe. and for
each man to explain the superiority of his pipe
over other pipe.
Rut II would not include any of the other
mines which had formerly been used that was not
self-centrng pipe? A.-No
o-Tbis Is a patented article? Ayes.
O-You claim. undoubtedly. superiority for it
upon the ground that It is self-centrins pipe 90
YOU not? Ave do.
o-Can you conceive Of any pipe equal to yours
which would not be an infringement OF your pat
emit? A-Equal in what way?
O-self-centring pipe. A.-There is no other
self-centrng pipe.
O-There could not be any without It's being an
infrinsement Of your patent? A.-No
$50 there could be no other pipe equal TO self
centring pipe? A.-There might be some other
pipe designed or some other pipe MADE by "hich
they could accomplish the same result as we do
$50 far as Won know there is no such pipe In
existence? A.-No.
The Chairman-Do understand there Is or Is
not? A.-There is no other pipe 80, ,.our nina
Mr. Clarke-How did you come 10 get your pipe
in where you say it has been put? A.-Where 90
you mean, in city work? ,,... ,.,,.,,,
wards? A.-The different departments sent to my
yards and bought it.
go far as you know. those were the hrst pur33
chsses ever made by Department OF that pipe
A-They are the first
Q-They are the FIRST? A.-Ges .,,o an, IL
owners when MIR Oberkirch was the agent? A
o.-Do YOU know him? A-Yes.
0.-Was he the selling agent here when ne was
made a member Of the Pittsburg company Al Al
really couldn't say; | think ne was Inc se''hs
o'@That was the original owner of the pipe?
cIYes Al couldn't say who owned the patent.
O.-You didn't know whom Mr. Oberkircn repre-
scented here? Ale represented the Pittsours
r1ade through or with him or independent OF him?
A-With him and the company: ,o
Ayes.
YOUNG CROKER's CONNECTION.
Q-Do you know anything about card that he
go; out at one time very shortly before you formed
your new company? Al do not
GA printed card? A.-No.
Odd you ever see one? Al did not
Odd you ever hear about It? A-No, l did not.
no, until read In the papers y, vor. :. hs
o.And he Is also fTen s, Of Mr. Buell.. and you
Q.Manager Of the National Sewer Pipe Com
both Frank Croker and Yourself? Al don't know
whether he is friend OF Mr.. Crokers or not
Q-You generally take lunch together downtown
Q-Aavent you ever? Al might have lgnched
Mr. Oberkirch but we have never lunched togeth ar.
Mr.. oberkirch and and yourself lunch together at
downtown restaurant? A-Yes: We
Q-Mr: Frank Croker and Mr. oberkirch and
o-Mr 0berkirch's office is where? A-st. Paul
Building
elusive right St from rom" Cooper BIgOffom the Pitts
burg company? Al couldn't say .,
Q-Have you ever during your official connecilon
with the Department, rejected any pipe? Ayes
O-And wha, kind Of pipe was rejected? A.
Rejected all kinds-all kinds that were submitted
o~And upon what ground were those reflections
made? A,Cn the ground that they were not Win,
fa On on me the Soand a that they Were
upon the ground that they were hrecoy pipes. ,os,
Q-That meant they would not stand ;he test
they not good pipe? Ayes. sir; 80
"a good deal Of II was soft. was II not! A.
Yes. sir.
STICKS UP FOR HIS OWN PIPE
o-Isn', this self-centring pipe rather soft pipe?
A-No, sir.
Oft is not? A.-No. sir; It is not.
Q-Isnt it a red clay pipe? ANo. sir; 1t is not
Q-Ddn't you always reject pipe of as soft a
this pine wnen s Y01 or ea an ppe c be
burned hard by long burning or high heat;
the pipe can be Burned until the lie is burnt
Of 1t. The color depends upon the amount OF burn
T Tf on According TO u your statement you did
moi reject pipe s% n IN T to the o pipe pSe
similar in quality submitted TO me- but there
a shale color-pipe submitted to me.
Odd you allow the Department Of Sewers 10
of the 90s S Of. Sa Of SoS
article? A.-Equsl in quality to 1t?
Q.-Ycs sir. Ayes. sir.
Q-Where? Al have used 1t myself.
Q.-Where? Ain the Department Of Sewers
Q.-On what work? Al used TO take charge
when / was engineer in the field of many as
fifteen or twenty contracts at time. We used II
there .
Q-And do you say that that pipe was as soft
and would absorb much water as this pipe?
A-As I told you few minutes ago. the pipe that
comes out OF a kiln varies in hardness according
10 the position IL occupies in the kiln and you may
20 into a kiln and whether II Is auvial pipe or
freclay it is a hard a soft pipe, and you can
70 into any mans yard and take hard and soft
pipe out OF t.
SHOWS SPECIMENS OF HIS WARE.