The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-26

question asked you by MI Dickson! L
couldn't say that / did.
And didn't you follow it up by saying;
1 won't DO anything Of the kind, ana
with that l got up and went 10 the conn
tel" or something? Something of thai
sort.
The latter part of that. you say you
did say? Yes, did; l think so.
veSy 6ic5 mr. ense ~ honor S0o in respect to
matters of this kind? Supposed to be-
yes. sir.
Wen, are you. do you think-have. you
high sense Of honor? In my own ludg-
menr, yes.
And do you revolt at any sort of cor
ruption or corrupt propositions made 10
chase of a vote? Yes. sir; 1 should think
tempt.
You would hold him in some contempt,
would you? Yes, sir.
REGARDED LAW AS A SCOUNDREL.
And you would regard him as a scoun;
drel, would you not? Couldn't regard
him in any other way.
II he were TO make such q proposition
as that to you? Yes, sir.
And yet, when Mr.. Law says, 1 VIII
give you my vote for 5000 you said
What do you mean2 l have got enough
votes to elect men now" Did you mean
TO say, sir, that if you did not nave
have considered the proposition? NO, SIT
l did not
w LN QlQ NOE make use Ol lIdl letil-
guage? Simply because when he mem
toned the subject matter, in the excite
ment of that. ! probably might nave just
blurted out that as the first thing that
That is what you said? I don't know
whether 1t Is positively what J sald' II
is as near my recollection as can be-
Just as near your recollection as can
be? [ know I rejected his proposition
and got up from the seat.
And told him that you rejected 1t? Yes,
That you had enough votes now with
out his vote, or words to that effect? That
was mentioned simply in the conversa-
ton.
That is what you said at that time?
POssiblc
And you have stated so in your exam
nation in chief? Possibly.
Do you remembe- being interviewed by
the DeseTet News on Saturday? Yes, sir.
And don't you remember saying in that
interview that when he proposed to vote
hell? 1 don't know exactly what my Ian
him.
That is not the language that was used.
was il? Amounted to the same language;
l might have put it in different way to
another man.
You did not use the language which the
Deseret News attributed to you, did you?
Mr.. Thurman-Do you say that Is Ill
the DeSeret News?
Mr.. Evans-It was the language of John
Evans. Yes You telephoned to John
Evans. didn't you? No. sir; did not.
Didn't you talk with him? No, sir.
Talk with Fisher Harris? Yes. sir.
What did you tell Fisher Harris? I
And didn't you say he had offered to
vote for you for 5000? Yes.
DIDN'T CONSIGN HIM TO HE'LL.
Didn't you tell him that you had told
him to go to he'll? l don't think aid
And then if Fisher Harris .communi-
Gated that word TO john Evans, on the
floor of the joint assembly, it was some
thing that wasn't right, was it? 1t was
perfectly right; it was only just putting
II in stronger language 10 convey IL IN
his way, 1 suppose.
You put it-What is that tsronger Ian
guage? The way Harris put it.
Harris didn't put it in stronger Ian
guage than that you used? Possibly.
You did not use the language yourself?
did not even know that he used that;
don't think 1 heard those words, and
yet may have done.
Do you say now, according to your best
recollection, that when the offer was
made you simply said, Il have enough
Or, Il have enough votes l said
something abOut-nO. sir, l wouldn't do
anything of the kind; said, Il have. got
something of that sort
Now, Sir, Mr.. McCUne, if that man had
made you corrupt and dishonorable
proposition at llaL ufne IN any Way,
didn't you tell him to go TO hell? No, sir;
l wouldn't have done that to any legisla-
You would not have done that to any
a man who had debased his office, who
had corrupted il and who has violated
the statutes Of the state and was under
taking to corrupt the state by making a
courteous to him as to refrain from using
words of that kind. would you? Yes.
You would? Yes, sir.
You would treat him genreelly, and
say, -Oh, I won't give you that amount"
or words TO that 6fiect2 The man was
big enough 10 have taken me by the scuff
OF the neck and shaken me.
e. you We're large enough to say to
him, = have got enough votes without
yours? Yes, sir
According 10 this, according TO your
statement, YOU went out on the sidewalk
and you joined with Mr.. Law and walked
with him across the street, didn't you?
! Joined with him-now. why did you put
Did You. l ask you? You know very
well the statement L made in regard to
that, that l went to the corner; he was
standing 10 the west of the building, if
teen or twenty feet, l couldn't say how
far, l turned to the left; he was TO the
right; / turned to the left and / met Jim
Shields there and shook hands with him
standing or anything else, and as soon
as l stepped on the street he came oppo-
site ne.
Now. answer the question, didn't you,
after coming out OF the drug store
didn't you meet and walk across the
street with him? No. sir.
And didn't you say that you did in Your
official statement? No. sir. | walked
across the street with him. He joined me.
instead of my joining him.
Where did Mr.. Law join you? ] couldn't
tell exactly-it was after / had stepped
OF Of the sidewalk onto the street
You made this statement, did you not:
While doing so. Mr.. Law stepped out"
that Is, while you Were in there getting
this package, stepped out of the store;
a few minutes afterwards I stepped out
OF the store, Mr.. Law joined me and to-
gether We walked across the street
south? Yes, sir.
LAW STILL PERSISTED.
And while doing so, Mr.. Law remarked
that ne would probably vote for me today
anyhow Yes, sir
What is the difference between whether
he joined you or you joined him? l am
explaining the difference.
You. came together to the sidewalk?
No, sir.
Don't you say so practically here? No.
that meaning will correct ii, because we
did not.
And you joined with him. or he joined
with you and together you walked across
the street, If you viii read his own
statement he states that himself
lie states what? States that he Joined
me on the street, but after : had shaken
hands with Jim Shields.
l am asking you what you did, / am
telling you JUST the same.
You are telling what he said? No: I am
telling what is correct and 1 am stating
what he also stated there.
Notwithstanding the fact that this man
had made z dishcnorabie proposition to
you you went out onto the sidewalk ard
ne Joined with you? Yes.
And you walked across the street to-
gether? Yes.
And he said to you while walking across
the street that he would probably vote
for you tomorrow anyhow? No. sir; not
tomorrow. today.