Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1899-11-01
Rev. Bagby AulmatedIy Declares,
" Miracles Make Me Tired"
WARM DISCUSSION FOLLOWS


convention occurred 20 the First PrcH-
bytorian church this morning. The
nrst feature of the program. after de-
votlonai exercises. was the reading of
paper on the subject OF The Bible
Teaching In Relation 20 sln." by the
Rev. A. T.. Rankin. lie said the worst
forms Of fln can be committed BY
thought by desire. The thoughts de-
tormlnc the character with God. but
man can only Judge by the known acts.
Sin in related 20 law. The nible says
whore there 10 no law there Il no trans
grcsiiOni whore there IL no law ain is
not imputed. When man IL intoxi-
Gated you say that he b. IN liquor whom
really the liquor L. IN him. go when a
man leads crooked lie morally. YOU
say he 10 In sin. when the ain IL In
him. and r. expressed In his bad con-
duct. Any unliken,aa to Jesus Christ 10
Elm, any departure from the moral law
la Gin. The difference between christ
and man. continued the speaker. IL sin.
SIN u unlikenvsn 10 God. Death 10 the
consequence Of sin, ny Adam came
SIN AND DEATH.
ANA Il IN our relationship 20 Adam that
causes us 10 die. Like bcrota like. and
Adam having ln him the seeds u
] death. transmitted them 90 us
The child does not sin because Il IL a
SINNER but because u IL sinful. You
can change the fruit o. tree. cunclud-
- the speaker. by grating and buds
| ding, 20 man "a changed from sinful
| 20 righieous person BY the cleansing
blood u Jesus Christ.
The discussion on this paper was
opened By the Rev. O. W. Martin. who
spoke briefly upon the nature of sin.
"MoRMoSs" AND SIN.
Rev. n. G.. Bailey. said. that tho
Mormon, people did not speak Of sin
| very much. they used the words IN.
| trinity" and weakness" etc. He was
attracted 10 the Tabernacle. In the city
| where he lives. 60 witness the funeral
! scrvlcen over the remains Of "A lady.
The speakers. Ia referring 20 her sins.
smoke OF them ~ "inffmlticH" and
| "Wttkncssaa," 90 which all flesh H. hflr
] The people ~ the dominant chufch
seemed 90 be reluctant la using the
| word I'm.
The Rcy. Alr Bsilof thought that Il
would De- vel n the ministers of the
various churches Wouid lay more en-
| phasis upon the word sin.
cHRisTs PERSONAL WORKS.
ROY. joel A. smith should have read
| the next paper. THE Person and Work
/ Of Christ" but he was absent. and Rev.
[ John Wilson presented the subject Ito
said he never saw any purpurtcd pic
] ture ~ christ that conformed 90 hia
| conception NJ the Savior There was
| but one picture OF Him and that was the
/ pen portrait that is given 81 his charnc-
l ter in tho scriptures
] There was no question as 20 Chrlsta
l divine nature. Human nature could
/ never have been 80 patient no forgive
| ing,
! u was not tho prayer Of a human being.
] who, aa he hung upon the cross. said;
] Father, forgive them, Tor they know
! not what they DO" The speaker turned
! his attention 90 the effect % Christian
] literature. 40 the result of Christ hav-
/ Ing hccn In the earth. He pointed out
| Ito superiority ana the superiority Of
] Christian civilization over Pagan lit
craturc ana civilization.
| The reading OF the PAPER was fol-
| lowed by remarks from a number Of
the Minister. In regard to the person
| OF Christ.
THE HOLY SPIRIT.
THE Person and Work Of the Holy
Spirit" was then taken up by Or. Pa
den. The desperation of the Holy
! Spirit. he said. IL the dspensatlon ot
/ conscience. The speaker said there
was something mysterious about tho
/ trinity known 90 the Father, Son and
/ Holy Ghost. but 70 was the mystery of
| mystery,
The day OF miracles. the day Of
/ tongues Of fire, the days Of making
| inspired scripture. said he are paasTd.
| We need no more miracles, he c0n-
! tinued, as we need NO more sacrifice
Cd
NEED 40 MORE BIBLES"
Rev. r. D, WATSON opeucd the dls-
question on this paper lie said there
/ of the Holy Ghost Ito work had ale
ways been manifest tie was much
! Impressed, he said. by Dr. Padcn'a re-
mark that We need no more Bibles. God
ls not making Bibles today. We necd
mo- addition 20 this Holy book. cone
| tended the speaker. nut the work OF
| the Holy Ghost ~ not confined 10 tho
/ scripture. when Christ said 10 would
remain with us forever he ana not
merely refer 10 the Bible, but tho Spirit
l. 20 dwell In us. 10 clear our moral
slies.
CONFLICT or OPINION.
Whom Mr.. wassou resumed hia seat.
Rev. Jayne arose. and loo continuing tho
discussion. maintained that the days u
mlraclrH were not past When the pa
tlent lice al deaths door. and tho phy-
flclHn rayg tLcrc ls no hope the
family and friends OF the sick ono
humble themselves and pray to God.
the tide % disease % turned. o. not that
~ miraclef II seems 90 me we are In
the age OF miracles. boldly contcnded
the speaker. DO we not have more
people IN the world Co day who need
these additional evidences Of Gods
power and mrrcy7 ~ miracles have
passed the church has lost part OF It's
power, ! believe declared Mr Payne.
that II We had the flith we could SEQ
the same things today UH were per-
formed IN the days Of christ
MIRACLES MAKE HIM TIRED.
Rev. W. II. uagby at this juncure.
secured the floor, and with much nni-
nation denounced such things as
superstition" Lot us get rid N this
auperatition,' said he. forget TO so
back In the days of the Apostles, but
20 on 20 perfection. These Instances OF
miracles make me tired said he. Il