New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-22

clared a dividend.
p,snstsn Of the diverssnes u Of those s,atsmenss
The witness--I am trying to give It, II you VIII
o:-You misunderstood my purpose and !, is fair
ns ne ssUue not 10 show Mr. Croker
testified falsely at this time but to show that you
The Issdsr Of fam@ SSs Hail IN this City into
Ing commissions from bond company Al am
Croker. and You can't misiead Mr. Croker. and no.
body else can mislead Mr.: Croker.
SHsvsn You you % msde n HIM think that he
bean settins dividends from the company? A.-Mr.
gil '' am calm Calm yourself. Hayen't you
haven't you made him believe So A-No sir
Odd you believe for minute Mr.. croker
would divide your commissions with yop' Al Al
SslisvsS that Mr. Croker mas right TO go INTO any
FREEDMAN HITS SENATOR PLATT.
Ono. no: answer the question whether 1t Is
honorable or not Do you believe that your leader
your friend. the head of Tammany Hall In this
city. in the view Of the people Of this city would
stoop TO the business Of dividing your commissions
the bond company that bonds the r Slts e hns
not Mr. Croker has simply had business ar ar,
: ransemsnt with me. the same as MI r'a" . 81"
night with Mr. Plat and Sir Patts son and , this
pany for that purpose-in the Plat company
Mr.. Moss do not care rap about ei'her one
The witness~You evidently have quite an inter-
est IN one OF the companies. .
aSalns semmisson; With apySed u, ar. dividing
The witness-Hc ,rb don. think 20" are '''''''S
Mr. MossMr Chairman are having Wing ns SAME
Constantly in their answers
The witness-No,
The The Witnes."You are taking advantage of your
position. II you were In this chair and some one
would ask you a few questions of that kind
The Chairman dnterposns-Ycu must stop v Snis
discussion and diversion. and LEI US proceed WY. y.
hn sta directed
strike sr oct the statement made by Mr. Freedman
nds he Stricken ss ff front he ecOd
Mr. Moss-f consent 10 that. simply in the In
q ss r tsS am T perfectly sHg Wiling Vi allow
the witness to show mis- manner Of thought anG
my questions. and the manner OF his answering. are
very helpful and demonstrative 49,, ,,,,o.a Mr.
cSokcr ~ believe that he was getting the dividends
q this company n regular and orderly il, and I'd in
nSrsonal question and viii not reply to you any
omYou will not answer that? ADO you wish
' o"Ycn viii not answer that? A-You won't let
MT The chairman1You viii answe, yes or no to that
question.
HE DEFIEs THE CHAIRMAN.
The witnoss-I will have the privilege of saying
more than yes or no
The Chairman--We will see whether you VIII or
not
Mr. Moss-Win you answer It!
The Witness-Read your question
T Tn &r witness
have you not induced MI Croker 20 neneve t IN
regular and orderly and in an honorable way?"
k."Mr Croker f receiving his dividends in an
esye Syi Sq eo v 9dSSsd srbe now AInqur'
:. o.--have you not induced him to get the dyi-
= dends- A.-wlll you let me have my overcoat
rapefs out of overcoat pocket)
Now you have gone 70 your oyeTeo sy,d and
SSt you think Ps IS material so out with IT, what
Sr &. Al will produce my paper when 1t is ma
OIL have Fiven you the opportunity 10 do it
now Al VII produce 1t at my time
: you know, !, viii have TO cornesto ne? A.-wh
ie aiycr: 30" ana rest osi you again did You
no, intentionally lead Mr.. Croker to believe that
not ,Ss commi;sionss AI-Mr. Croker evidently be-
i'yed ,sat o he vas recsviPPs rS S5yiegn s
:. o.-That IS not the question. A-No allow me
Nr o'kuivaa-The witness is undertaking TO e',-
p,e.r
- osuLLvAN is sQUELCHED.
The Charman-Mr OsuIlivah, you will kindly
take your seat. uAz
Mr. Moss-He is interested here for the city de-
raftrnen;s | don't see what ne has to do with this
invsstIgation.
C.-The question is what you intended what
you did DID you not Intentionally lead Mr.. Croker TO
believe that he was getting dividends? A.-No. sir.
Q.--That Is an answer TO the question. Now. you
10 Nj Croker al unstated intervals what did you
mean by that? A.-scmetimes three months. some
Q-sometimes in three and sometimes in four;
sometimes in two? A.-No.
amounts IN between. for the. sale Of some small
amounts, Of STOCK tina, he held in the company.
moneys that you gave him, .shtowing, which were
CT
o-Then sometimes you gave him money that
that was commission. and he didn't know which
was stock and which was commission; is that
Odd he know Al don't say that he did or
o.-bid you tell him. Al can't recoect
Q.Did you give him any statement? A.-No
written statement
o-Your matters were entirely confidential? A
Hs relies sqsely upon Eog he takes what
way? A.-That IS not the way.
o.Dces he ask you questions' Aft he pieases.
o2Does he. A-sometimes.
you Ss him IN rom G the Sondns ss are S
bonding Company is conceSned? XNo. sir; w What sle
] have no other money to give him.
QUIBBLING AND IMPERTINENCE
Q.-what are the regular times for declaring
dividends in stock companies In New-York City?
A.-some two and some four times year.
o.-six monthly or quarterly? A.-some monthly
Q.-And your payments TO him have been entire
ly Irregular. then? Ayes. sir.
Q-Then how should he think they were dvi
dends II they were paid so irregularly? A.-The
dividends were received irregularly.
Q.-Dividends were received A.-Not divi
dends but my commissions
Q.-But he did not know that they were COM
missions. according to your statement? A-That is
not 80. Mr. Moss.
Q.-Then he did know they were commissions?
A-That is not So It the business profits Of
our Office in which Mr.. Croker was an associate.
n 10, nat hoxa off,
In the company. distinct from the company? A
No. sir am the vice-president, and represent the
company here. and In charge OF the officers here.
Dyes but is not that ONCE run for all the
stockholders? Ayes sir.
Q-How is II. then that all the stockholders did
not share III A.-For the same reason that all
the lawyers In your office or all the clerks do not
The Chairman-The stenographer will strike out
that remark: IL is impairment.
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