New-York tribune., 1899-06-16
sir On a horse called cormorant. - to s2 and 'o''
that. 80, g.,
Mr. Moss-That will do
YOUNG HARDENED TO Chi"H
OPEN PRoFLIGACY FLoURlsHEs A"o''
r,t,, CROWDED HOMES OF THE PUN

Mr. Noss--You have been out unuer eo.,n tne u occa
II .ha counsel TO the committee on Ndi''"S ~
signs SS.Loekins '' at gambling houses and policy
0.~what is your ase' A-Going on twenty WV
going through the streets on the East s'de h
east OF The Bowery. have you been s.oppeIt p str,sS
men and solicited 10 go into houses " '''''
Ai Aio-IHas iha, occurred very often? Ayes SIT
III nas sUgostmanWhat part OF the East Side! A.:
Ailen-st., Chrystie-st, Rivins'oh-s'''
a1S oIHow far down stantonst A.stant99ntfb,e TO the
down TO Forsyth-st and one 20 'Forsyth-st. And
ST MossHcx early y,,, in aissflca ihs f9y AWe nay
have noticed II from o'clock In the morning " "''
hS1rs ii day dae and all night? Ayes sir; day ana
"'Sn. 'SSn.".chndren playing around and seeing IT, A.
g. o'Haye Tia you observed that thing recently A
Yes sir Well last week or 50 ANot TO the same
uave YOU observed boys and young men Ped
ding out cards for dlsorderly houses ana e'''S
A-Yes sir; Alen-st . roo, many
voS;ne men and BOYS who stand out and scout iSi
these houses? Ayes. sir; In the employ VI '''>
Q.eGet customers for them and warn them OF
the approach of enemies? Ayes sir
MALE PULLERs-IN AT WORK.
o-And look after the girls? A-Well there are re
two the outside, man sonsi'ls m IN po ie xters
With the puliers-in and there Is another man wha
stands on nSvs the oppUss psrs stdt e.ens % clothes
The precinct and every officer, and ne rs tneru s ~,
on % the opposte side the man outside the house ne
gives whistle. and In that way warns MN nhroc,ne
O-So there is an organization there ,p enD1pac
moi only girls and women. but men ana poys' A.
Yes Yes. siT. ,.o, .asr novs giving out
cards; apparently what was their age? A'-from
sixteen years up to about peope on the East
side are brought in daily and nightly contact win
vice and Obliged TO live with II and see IT, ana sy pg
I have seen women solicit from houses houses IN
Ans where there tS So1d sdPen Re 'fn n their r
on the stoop, and have seen them sohci'ihs iroi'
nose you 90 through that district during the
time when Captain Chapman was making ra'os' I
o-Was there any Improvement at that time;
A.~There was sir The houses were closed up, IN
fact all houses and there was niue Se Oe G Time Cap
tain Chapman there But since that tmei aho tho
right after Captain Chapman ieIt tne Prer n o the
soliciting began. and it has continued up 10 '"e
present time. , -, .ho, nre
cnct now? A-CaptaIn Hogan Is in the precinct
nov: ,,oo r,o, ,ror, your observation OF Cap
tain Chspman's conduct IT Is possible to restrict
the nuisance so It does not annoy people along the
o.Cwhen dd Captain Chapman go away? A.
Captain Chapman left there, should judge Deiore
O-You have been connected with the Legal Aid
Society have you not? Yes. Sir, sir. Ala Society
you have had to go through the district great
Legal Aid Society reside in that part OF the city
A-Yes, sir; almost all Of the people who , are e. re-
s;SEf' siGe. by the Legal N'o '0''''' ''''' 49, 49,.
Q.-And are there not a great many cases that
1ured.girls and other people who nave Deeh III
Q.-You do not know about that? A.-No
SIN DOES NOT HIDE IT'S FACE.
hat wi
in that section has been almost as open prosti-
and it is every bit as open as prostitution. -.
Q.-Hsve you been able to see gambling gong Oh
rom @ yoM look into these places and see the
gambling going on? ,A.-Yes. sir. And could see
oHThe men sitting around the tables gambling
A,-Yes, sir. .o,..., Woo cir
| Q-And under the instructions Of counsel you
have gone into good many Places IN that 10 1is. Hc
QDAnd you have played in many of those placesi
'Q.-.For instance the place No. 2S BrOome-st'
o-Ahd No. 1ss Hester-st,?. Ayes sir.
| Q-And No. 29 Bowery? A-Yes, sir
Qwh. kind Of "a 10n da keS yoq by ps Stein RfTs
9 pany. / Believe that is the name that is, on the
oom in fGf the go rear sPFGSsG of the store and there
envelope game that is, a night policy game uIdw
9eS room aGSqt tSsre Ssfly e played as
| downstairs in a room. down short flight OF stars
| was there there was only one game on. believ.
II was on Friday night, and played on TINS re- rec
and black You have got the chips and the slips
there Of the place. TO-. o,oa o. No
OF YOU had been sent for that purpose. yo'
would have found 1t? Al believe SO; . x g.
| Q.-You would not have been afraid to try II
Q.-Without going over all these reports yo'
have found where you have been sent to and wna
| Won have been sent for specific places that actu
ally exist and where gambling Is going on' A
Q-And by general reputation and knowedg
throughout the district. you say gambling has bee'
very prevalent? A--Yes, sir.
POLICY SHOPS FLOURISH.
Q.-And what do you say, about the polcyy nSy tn
open but policy. of course is harder TO 20 intC nn
harder to get into tpT DpfGy G s@pe sh0Pf tnan To ha
policy men know every-weli. they know mostI n
every person that comes into their shop, Inc @ peo
| pie who visit the policy shops play there mos
O The policy shops are usually found In neigh
| borhood where great many poor people are? A
Q!And. perhaps located in cigar store or In
candy store or in a barber shop? A.-Yes. sir
O.-And there are number OF people hvin
right around that section that come in and bu
the slips and who play policy-who buy the slip
from that policy shop? Ayes. sir
Q-Do the children play? A-Yes sir.
Q.-And do the women play? A-fes. SIT
O-And the men? A.-Yes. sir
Q-It is the poor mans gambling? Ayes, si
O-Aad in that way the pocy-shop keeper get
acquainted with the people who are in the habit {
coming 10 his place? A.-Yes. sir.
GA great many of those places all over n
| CITY, are there not? Ayes. sir.
| Q-Hundreds of them? A-Ies, sir
| Q.-So the business Is distributed among then
and each policy shop has Its own patronage? A
! Yes sir.
Q.-l asking very young man, Of cours
but If YOU were going to work at the head OF n
| hatn iNr n
you do It by arresting the policyshop Keepers.
by making cases against the hackers? A.-Wel,
would make case mostly against the backer. b
cause II Is easy to get to the writer
Q-It would be nice piece OF detective work
get 10 the hottom? Ayes. sir.
Q--It is well known the various hackers in Il
city each has n large number of policy shops? A.
Yes. sir.
Q-Those policy shops run by drawings?
Yes. sir