New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-18
the question. perhaps by obJectionabe term sa M
whether you were not broke when, you came pa'n
from England? A.-No. sir; l was not

BROUGHT BACK ENGLISH MONEY.
Q.-You were not. A.-No. sir. / brought PACK
English money with me- Laughter)
Q.--That English money balanced by wnat
you owed on your mortgage? A.-No.
preperE you d hays tSS@ as wfr dd OF
.o.-You don't think you had as much as tha''
Odd you have more than $1,000? Al don't DON,
know; don't propose to go into my personal ous'-
OIL only want to ask you far to know this:
whether the mortgages that you swore on eA nouy
personal estate was smaller than the amount OF
the mortgages? A-rhey are sworn TO- ana 6tfc you
OIL ask you? A.-Well, you can find that out
have sworn to that before. ...o.r 20
It now. you are under oath Al am under oatn
now. do not propose to give you my perso""'
Q-Do you decline to answer that question? Al, Al
Yes. decline to let you go into my personal DUST
Q.-Do you decline to answer that question: A.
.o-Now, let us see: You have already told g us
that Republican police officer was being triea
and should deny the charge, the charge ,non oSIs
equally strong and the Commissioner must decide
the Should he give the io Gepends
on the character of the witnesses. u,
Al say that they are equally strong na.e must
o-should he give the preference to the o liant
to have any preference at ALL in the case in his
decision; not In decision OF that kind 90 moi OF
think that politics ought TO he brought in'o O"
o-But the case equally strong on either rs sIee
and must be decided. Is II not naturai IIIrds
ence and natural leaning TO your own 11ie IN
and associates that should prevail A =. hat
Qsupposing that Judge HAVING n Ing ,s fee' Tam,
experience and larger practice should aiso ue -
ha OF pr has the most experience.
Q.-You think then that he should appoint ''''
more experienced man? Ayes.
THEORY VS.. PRACTICE.
Q.-Ts that the way it is done? A--fes.
not done that way. because we look LOT one WI"
inst as much ability as the other, all things being
equal. u
O.-You always have a Tammany side iai',-
MANY man who is equal to any Republican VINO Is
named? Aust good.
$50. II high great Republican is Named
then a Democratic judge is to PICK out De'''-
0'-But the Democrat always gets 1t? A'-he
always should get there daughter aso and at
the end Of the case the evidence is evenly ban an
anced and he must decide the witnesses ON the other
side are all Tamany witnesses there ars
e eqe equally Strong But it so happens that on one
side is one organization and on the ot t rsmem
the other organization should hnoa me s man? A.
No: IL should not be brought In at an r ,,o,, a
Mr.. Hoffman-Mr. CROKER aiIo" iie " ~
a! Mr. Moss-Excuse me
Mr. Hoffman-Just one question
Mr. Moss-Excuse me, please.
Mr. Hofman-Just one question ..- .,a, Mr.
Moss has lust questioned you about, do you know
any instances where such question: nus De-
arisen-the question OF Iammany ~ man a. roferee9
publican regarding the appointment OF reie'ee
MI Moss-Have you not just sworn to the con- on,
trary? Assembyman Hoffman has Just ASKED yo oS
whether II has ever happened that the matter OF OF
politics has ever been mentioned IN nnderstand
referees. You have already sworn nnt TAM
vol that a Tammany judge must appoint lam
referees? Al d dont say n always 1t is
not always the case. by any means They oi'eh
"Pop "po YOU want to take back the testimony y0g
gave a few moments ago about referees Al
you say what you repeat now DO 49, matter
before judge the is doubtful that Is one side
is ust as strong as hut the fra matter Of property
or perhaps Of the designation OF a place one sine
of the case Is represented oy U nv
man outside of your organization In me max
ing Of that decision. should the organIzaton jHdge
ought to be brought into such a
POLITICS AND REAL ESTATE.
O-Why were politics brought in In the removal
of the Real Estate Exchange? A.-Because this is
more fit place than the other.
O-You think II is more, 1T? Ayes. sir. 1t was
there for years The other was only temporary
place. Dult Dy lot Ol pcopio iVi INC Pun POSS ~
e o"And do you think that all things being equal
no. I will change that question. DO you think
gift of the Court. with two. candidates. one is a
man of long experience. and the other Is an or
ganization man. that the organization man should
have the preference?
Mr. Osulvan-I would like to object
The Witness-I have answered that.
Mr. O'Sullivan-To this series OF hypothetical
questions This gentleman Is not here as an ex-
pert. He comes here in the capacity of private
citizen
10 speak for Mr. Croker.
Mr. OSullivan-You cannot challenge my right TO
speak .,-
the city departments here and the statements he
has made in open court have been revoked uo
sent the city departments.
Mr. O'Sullivan-You decline to allow me to speak2
The Chairman-1 don't understand that you APP
Mr o'suillvan-I see / have got to keep still the
whole time while the time OF this committee Is be-
ing consumed by these hypothetical questions.
The Chairman-We are the judges of that; and
Moss to account for the line Of examination. we
will do so. Mr. Croker is here as representing the
we should have his views on this subject.
Mr.. OsullivanZ,They are Hypothetical questions
that fact. And nothing is to be gained by this wit
ness giving his opinion as to what the decision
should be case that never came up.
The Chairman-These questions based on
evidence already adduced before this committee.
CONTRADICTs EX-JUDGE DAILY.
Q--Now. Mr. Croker. that question I will re-
state: Supposing there was an appointment Of a
candidate before a Judge. two candidates for such
appointment being man OF long experience
and the other being organization man. which
man should have the preference. the man OF long
experience and ability or the organization man of
less experience and ability? Well. that all depends
on the Judge himself. how he feels about those
things. -
o.-You think the judge should be left to his own
judgment there? Ayes.
Dwell when Judge Daily refused TO designate
or sign the designa of your salesroom Broad
way and refused appoint Mr.. DAILY to clerk.
ship why was that reason for turning him down!
A-That was not the reason
Q.-What was the reason? A-That was not the
reason.
in a better man.
O-Was not that assigned as the reason? A
No. not particularly.
Q.-You heard Judge Days statement that was
the reason assigned To him by your man? A-That
is what ne says
O-And do Won deny that? A.-Yes.