The age-herald. [volume] (Birmingham, Ala.) 1897-1902, 1899-10-20

this issue He appealed TO the god of battle.
If ! may do So with reverence, | say We
accept that appeal, believing our quarrel
Just"
Mr. Chamberlain, who had spoken two
hours and three-quarters, resumed his seat
amid loud and prolonged cheering.
United Sites Ambassador Ghoate and
Henry White, secretary of the United
States embassy, were in the chamber DUR
ing Mr.. Chamberlain's speech.
Sir Edward Clarke, conservative member
for Plymouth, said the more he had read
the correspondence the more convinced he
had been of blunders in the negotiations,
and that this lamentable war was unneces-
sary. For any minister to assert that 1--WE
since 1884 have had suzerainty over the
Transvaal," Sir Edward declared, was GER
tainly at variance with the facts and a
breach of national faith. President Kruger
has had much difficulty with his Volks-
raad and on many occasions had shown
himself moderate and an advocate of
peace. There is no reason why the condi-
tons which President Kruger attached to
the franchise proposals should not have
been accepted, seeing that suzerainty was
dropped in 1884.
A brief discussion between Mr. Chamber
lain and Sir Edward Clarke ensued respect
ing the Interpretation that should be placed
upon Mr. Chamberlains reply, the colonial
secretary, maintaining that the tenor of the
not accept all of President Kruger's condi-
tions, though we accepted nine-tenths.
Sir Edward rejoined that Mr.. Chamber
lain's remarka made the matter more and
more sad. If this sort of thing had been
going oa the war was a crime against CIV
iization. 1t was very unfortunate that
parliament was not sitting the first week
in September, or the seven-year franchise
would have been accepted and there would
have been no war. Mr.. Chamberlain's con-
duct of the correspondence he character
lied as most clumsy. He had given twen-
ty years answering support to his party,
but there was, Sir Edward continued, a.
deeper and truer loyalty to party than
bindly going with it in a division and in
the lobby and some day his friends would
acquit him of disloyalty in having striven
to prevent his country from suffering ca
lamity and his party from suffering re-
proach for having embarked on an unnec-
essary war. Opposition cheers)
John Morley, liberal member for the
Montrose district, rising to speak was
greeted with loud cheers by the opposi-
item He said: "a very ma terial change
has come over the spirit of the discussion
since the brilliant, eloquent, foreible and
unanswerable speech of Sir Edward Clarke
and it now seems as If we are going to
war, not for the franchise, but for suze-
rainty. Under the name of paramountcy
we are going to impose on the Transvaal
obligations Whlcn the government "ouio
not for the life of them, dare impose upon
any self-governing colony"
M Chamberlain interposed: IF we
could imagine such a case as q self-goVern-
ing colony imposing upon majority of its
inhabitants such conditions as the Beers
imposed upon British subjects we should
interfere or cut the connection"
Mr.. Morley contended that in New
Foundiand there was a remarkable case of
alienation in favor of individuals but,
though that correspondent to the position of
affairs in the Transvaal, Mr.. Chamberlain
refused to interfere saying the cases were
in no way comparable.