The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-26

/ hind that in the interest of the Demo
cratic party.
During this senatorial contest haven
you worked in the interest of Mr. A
: w. McCune for the pCrpose of doins
anything that you thought HONORABLE,
. and proper to secure his election? Yes
sir; l have with the understanding a:
stated before that great damage was
being done to the party.
And if Mr.. McCune held his votes day
after day, that seemed a solution? II
that sense.
You have advocated that the minor
ity members in the Democratic party in
the legislature should go to the major
ity there? Yes, sir.
Did you ever consider the question as
to whether the wishes of the majority
of the people of the state should be
consulted?
Objected to by Mr.. Thurman.
Mr.. Cummings-At the McCune head
quarters just at the moment when the
matter of meeting Mr.. Law was con-
sidered by Mr.. McCune did you notice
anything or hear anything in his talk ?
1 noticed nothing unusual.
In McCune's conduct, he thought II
would be better? 1 cannot tell what
he thought.
Mr.. Evans-You have been at the
joint sessions almost every day haven't
you? 1 have been frequently but not
almost every day. Some days I have
had some matters on hand here. have
often attended the legislature also.
Mr.. Whitney-To whom did you refer
when you said he voted for a Democrat
before? 1 referred to the president of
the senate.
CRITCHLOW is CALLED.
f. B. Critchlow, sworn, examined by
Mr.. Van Colt:
Where do you reside; in this city,
and have for a greet many years? Yes,
sir.
Your occupation is that of lawyer?
Yes, sir.
You are acquainted with Mr.. Nc
Cune, and have been for some time?
Yes, sir.
In a general way are you interested
in his business? Yes, sir; 1 am in
legal way.
Do you remember a week ago last
Tuesday evening of being at the vi
emma cafe? Yes, sir.
Who were present. When I went in.
Mr.. McCune, Mr.. Tanner, Mr.. Sloan.
Mr.. Law and, as / now recall, one
other gentleman, whom 1 cannot be
certain about
Did some come later? Yes. sir.
Who? Mr.. Dunbar. and if Mr.. By
water were not the fifth present at
that time, he was one who came; and
think Mr.. Lloyd was the man.
Did Mr.. McCune say anything to Mr..
Law while you were eating supper,
there or before, with reference TO Law
coming to him? What did he say? The
first thing that was said. as l now
recollect it. upon that general subject.
was by Mr.. Law, with reference to his
not being considered a very good Re
1hlfpan nj
said. "Oh, Law viii be over voting
with US before this thing is over" and
he said, Law, you better come over;
we are pretty good fellows, anyhow.
By Jove! this thing has cost me so
much 1 cannot afford to lose" And
there was n sort of a general smile
went around. And Law went on to
say that in his judgment. the matter
would have been settled long ago had
it not been for the efforts of Mr. Nc
Cune and his supporters to induce the
Mckinley Republicans to come to his /
support. That induced a remark by
Mr.. Dunbar, and, I think, by Mr.. Sloan. /
to the effect that that was not true;
and then Mr.. McCune made some jocu- I!
lar remark about not wanting their
support, and that sort Of thing; and .
laughingly said, if they We're going to 4
run down the Republicans, I could not 4
eat with the crowd.
You are Republican, Yes sir.
During that conversation, Mr.. Critch- |
low, was it said in what kind of a
tone? JOcular tone, and laughing. in |
the spirit Of the previous conversation /
Could everybody at the table hear
what Mr. McCune said to Law? Ger
tainly.
Was there anything serious about
that or in what Mr.. Law answered to
this remark? There was nothing seri-
oh,
seemed to be serious in making the
charge that the only reason why the
senatorial contest had not been closed
long before was because. as he said. of
the attempt on the part of Mr. McCune
and his supporters to enlist the Nc
Kinley Republicans.
Did Mr.. Law, in that conversation.
say anything to the effect that he
thought Mr.. McCune had used that
word cost" in an improper sense? Not
at all. There was nothing further said
about it at all while I was there.
IN A OCULAR VEIN.
Cross-examination by Mr. Evans
In other words, you think Mr.. Nc
CUne uttered in a very pleasant man
ler a great truth2 Well, I csn hardly
answer that question in any other way
han this. that I imagine that a SEN
ltorial campaign cannot be carried on
without what would be to me d great
Zeal of money; whether it would be TO
him or not, l could not answer.
Do you think he was Joking when he
iaid it? 1 do.
You think it has not cost him u great
leal of money? 1t has cost what would I
De a great deal Of money TO you or TO
ne: but if you mean, by a joke, wheth-
,r il was said in a serious manner,
iay it was in jocular manner. ;
But Mac said TO Law: You Will be 1
,ver with us soon. by Jove! this las
,ost me too much money now to afford
o lose?" That was the substance of /
l; l am not giving the exact words
Are you retained by Mr.. McCune in
his case? No, sir; think not. I am
'Ir. McCune's general attorney, and !
While 1 have been present at some of Z
he consultations with the attorneys, 1 ;
lad no part in the preparation of any
f it
You are retained by hin generally?
Generally. in any matter of Importance Y
Il legal matters it is referred to me !
without question.
And you have consulted with counsel /
n this matter. with reference TO this {
Only on Sunday noon c
or about an hour 1 did not so TO con-
ult with them, but went TO see Mr.. !
Brown, and they were there. /
Mir. X. c. Chambers called and sworn
Examined b. Mr.. Dickson:
Are you ore of the senators? From I
ummit county: yes, sir.
Are you acquainted with c. NJ. Jack c
on? 7 am.
With Mr.. Wins of The Herald? I /
n. Y
On one Sunday evening, in the latter a
art of January last or thereabou,s. v
id YOU meet Mr. II[nS and Jackson I Il