The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1899-01-28
RESULT In DOUBT FOR A TIME
MAKES DEMOCR ATS -
DECLARED SENATOR SHEA
In Earnestly ArgGin@ His Point
GOOdvine Bill Ordered EnGrOssed
Senate Committees.

ucat1on. and, until a late hour In the aIter-
noon, the fight was warm and the result in
doubt, until the last name had been called
on the vote to advance it to engrossment.
AS was the case Thursday the state school
people came out of the fight ahead of their
nonschool opponents, although to do so, they
had to concede an amendment to the bill
amounting to the substitution of an eNtirely
new measure. The effect of it was, how
ever, to practically allow the state school
interests to retain control of the board
while allowing three new members to be
added to it.
Following the precedent set on the day
before, quite a wrangle occurred before it
was finally decided that the special order
of Thursday held over until yesterday.
Senator Drummond, who obtained recogni-
ton as soon as the invocation had been Of
fered, was asked to give way temporarily
in order that the reports of committees
could be heard, but Immediately after the
reports had been read, Senator Brooks Of
fered an amendment, providing that the
Governor should appoint seven persons to
membership on the Board of Education, one
of whom should be the president of
normal school not receiving any aid from
the State, one the president OF d college,
not in receipt of aid from the State, and
one city superintendent of schools, TO be
elected from among the county superin-
tendents, the other members to be the state
superintendent and the presidents OF the
State University, Purdue and the State
Normal School. Before this amenCment
could be acted on, Senator Hawkins arose
to d point of order, saying that, in his
opinion the consideration OF the educat iOnal
bill was not a matter before the Senate, and
that the adjournment of the day before had
ended the special order under which the
former discussion had been held Senator
Hubbell upheld this view of the matter,
but other senator's took issue with them,
with the result that, while the wrangle over
the special order was going on, Senator
Drummond asserted his rights to be heard
claiming that, as he had obtained recogni-
ton first of all, and had given way in order
to allow committee reports TO be heard, his
claim to the floor was valid. The president
thought so too, and the senator from Mar
shall thereupon introduced the com
promise bill which broke the strength of
the nonstate school supporters, and brought
the matter through the amendment stage
without any damage being done to the safe
school inerests. His amendment provided
for the striking out Of all of the Hogate
stituting therefore OF Senator Goodwine's
bill. which provides for keeping the present
State Board of Education intact with the
ADDITION OF three new members to It, all
of whom must be actively engaged in educa-
uOnal work ana one OF whom must be a
county superintendent.
In offering his substitute bill, Senator
Drummond said that it did not meet with
his own approval, he believed implicitly
in the state board and the work 1t ha0
done, but he wanted to find some ground on
which the opposing forces could meet with
out tearing GOWN the grand work OF the
present board
A RING" IN EXISTENCE
Senator Newly said that Senator Drum
mond was mistaken when he assumed that
the interests of the educational system of
the State were wrapped up in the present
state beard. He said that he felt implicitly
that there was ring in existence in
which the state school people and the Indi-
ana School Book Company were the central
figures. He asserted that all the great uni
versities of the country were nonstate insti-
tutions, and that generally it could be found
as in the case with the State University of
California, as compared with the Stanford
University that privately supported un1Ver-
sites were ahead of the state schools in the
matter of equipment and results. The puT-
pose of the substitute bill was. he said, to
the influence OF the three largest cities of
the State and the districts IN which the
state educational institutions were located.
The compromise" offered was in his esti-
nation, like the handle of a jug-the big end
against it all the time.
Senator Shea, for the state Schools said
it was the duty of the Democrats to stick
to the state schools, because education
makes Democrats" He said that under
the state school system school books were
nCw furnished to pupils at one-fourth the
price extorted under the old contract plan,
and Indiana pupils now paid less for the
hicrhpCf Grade 0f than children n
any State in the country.
Senator Brooks then asked that Senator
Horners educational bill be offered as a SUBJ
stitute for an amendment made the day be-
fore by Senator Newly, but, after a long
wrangle as to the legality of admitting such
an amendment when another amendment
was pending, it was decided to rule it out of
order Senator Wood spoke briefly before
the vote was taken. on the substitution of
Sc nator Goodwine's bill for the original bill,
and said ii was evident that the nOnState
people would be satisfied with nothing less
than the complete destruction OF the present
state board, from the fact that, although
the amendment by Senator Drummond was
offered as embodying all that was asked for
by the nonstate senators, they refused to
agree TO its adoption.
VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
On the vote for the amendment twenty
three senators voted aye to twenty-one vot-
ing no, and Senate bill No. 107 became No.
IS. Then the worst complication of the
day arose. when Senator Brooks asked that
the vote on Senator Newby's amendment
of the day before be reconsidered. 1t seemed
to set every one at sea, and before it was
finally Strengthened out, the Lieutenant
Governor had reversed himself three times
in as many minutes. At first he held that
bill No % was out of existence and had
then become pNo 107. Under the press of
senatorial argument. however, he finally de-
cided that No 107 was simply an amend
ment to No. 80. and that No. % was still in
existence. Senator Hubbell finally came to
the rescue by moving to table Senator
Brooks amendment, which was done by
vote of "a to %
Immediately after the Senate reconvened
In the afternoon Senator Shea moved that
the bill be advanced to engrossment To
this Senator Horner offered an amendment,
to strike out the section OF the bill prOVid-
ing for the membership of the board and
substituting therefor provision that the
seven members of the board should be two
county superintendent three city superin-
tendents and two other persons OF prom
inence as business men. This amendment
was ruled out by the president, and Senator
HOrner moved to table Senator Shea mo-
ton to engross the bill. In the end the en-
grossment was ordered by vote OF 23 10 z,
and the matter ended.
The next step, according TO what a non
state school senator claims 10 be prear-
ranged plan, will be TO kill the present bin
when IL comes up for passage. All the edu-
cational bills before the Senate have been
school faction is IN the attitude OF fathering
it, but when it comes up for passage enough
of the state school following viii, II is said,
defect from the support of the bill to vote
1t down and all bills being disposed OF, the