New-York tribune., 1899-04-11

Q.-And wasn't the accusation against you 'ne, nd
the statement of woman named sa, Scnupbb tbsy had
paid you money? Wasn't that the charge against @
you there? All the same as "as AZ
Q.~You say It was the same that you were Sc
Quilted on before the Court OF oyer and Terminer!
G-The specifications at that tme-I couldn't eh-
actly remember-but facsimile.
STRANGE FoRGETFULNEss.
o.-It is strange. Chief that you should forget
these matters. unless It be that you were s.A' " "
you claimed 10 be at the time tnat u'a' r.
brought on before the Police Commissioners ~
you remember that you claimed to be SICK w.
that trial came off? A.-You can go on explaining
that thing.
Owe want to understand your claim
The Chairman-we want to get at the facts. MI
Deyery; and you can help usor,hsr us now don't
remember | can't remember. The resofns h cd courts
Police nbne and 5he toUchns on my ad
ministration now that enghten TINS ,I, on
tee sit here ready 10 know touching the
welfare OF the city on the good sde phind pI the
side. hut I don't want TO go pach 0e'''1
o"We haven't gone behind anything gt yet to we se
are trying TO find what Il Is you do that at the
time You were tried before the Police ero0csadng
sIoners the Iexow Investigation was procebis him q
Do Won remember that? Al heard soHie'i''''e
about it, -.,.,o Mrs Schubert.
MIS- santord and Charles Pryan swore that A. tney rs
had maid YOU money to protect them DO you ie
enIer o uo remember anything OF that. that any
of them swore to? Al do not .,,- mart Chief.
that Mr. Martin Mr. sheehan and the ,ron 0,hf5 tbs
formulated charge tSsn asanft Being HSU given the
fernw Committee and called you to triai' ~
you remember that? Al do not nou. were called for
trial before that Board of Police? A. 10 np Snring
Q.-Do you remember that you ND since that
the Lexow Investigations a
time w was, Sosrd va that YOU were? Ayes. sir .os
Will
fro Gu are The Judgment OF the Police Comn o,,
sioners Messrs Martin and 0tner5 0gnmrnber that
your G~n you remember that Mr Martin G s9o foree e
other Commissioners dismissed you takeD keU'"
Don't YOU remember that it was MT tbst ~" dis
and Mr. sheehan and md 'h0ss f0Tee AT understood
since 1t was.
prurNRERs HE WAS REINsTATED'
o., was not Mr. Roosevelt and his assoo
that dismissed you from the force? A'-No, ,,,sssal
Q-And you took an appeal from ' ~ ,avver
,ha+ mas made by those gentlemen? Any ia"'
did ,.,o IL can
Q.-You knew 1t was taAeh' uiU"
not sav remember. rhere
o.-Dldnt YOU know anything aoou' !" - =, NV
l., a sneciAed time when they had charse "a ~
matters and haven't given any considera''o" ~
So long has gone by that do not reneii'Oe, , ,or
o-Was not the ground OF your apPe"1 ,.n, u,ere
had been tried in your absence aha S,,o M
sick9 A-Someth hing like that oenti' oi efore Com
o-When your was up Tor IIiai IIEis9oDeTs tes-
Sseio,er Martin and the other ComInlsso ~ uere
I, nnssIUg ra@ ofersd on your behalf that you
sick and unable 10 appear ana or could appear T.
tlo',f s "CSommssoners went and trled SoS ~ eir
%our absence. and then you aPpea,'ep Nd moi been
decision upon the ground that ~, " I do not
Si-Iy treated do you remember thatF Al "' "
remem3e a Won remember that the Appellate our
oVerrnled and vacated the judgment OF oI,isSed upon
mssoners because they weFe bo To 1 attend the trial?
NJ ~ ,.o,, remember that. Al do not u''''
the question ION; MHnmcmber upon what ground was
hat the Commissioners were oVefrueu'
could not ten -yysnber y0u what it was that those per
sons whom have mentioned testihea as"'''''
A3N9, s"; Won do remember that you were re,
stated after that removal by those
don't you NOT Gremember that you had been re-
,,S,otedS A-Let's see. think II was III III vas
velt conf IIoC5a.I@e CannD, Tgisss"e' Ig lss5. ~
r%elns'3 % W. Sere reinsaed by the KooseVen id "a me
wSre vou9 Al think ] was yes '''
Other bod BODY wore removed by the Martin Board ana
restored by the KooserGd ND again on an indictment
80 by nv" an extraordinary Grand Jury "e'e '
not? Hd iSst Indictment upon charge Iha'
YOU had taken 500 from T'kn know ] was tried.
40 yop YOU remember that II was s9no 9m M rom Mr.
rnent charging that you n9d clearly proven in
seagrist? Al remember " "''
that case that "a ~" bmt W do vou remember that you
were tried d,,S %n not % say whetner was indicted on
Nj The records Of the court WV, ~ Searrist mat
O-Dont you know that II WAS '"e
ter? Al could hy we're present at that trial:
me & 1rasent AT that trial. whether tna - 81
a. t. S,ctr mont or not they brought up '''"' '
~ the Seagrist emo .,cr
-. But YOU told us the other day you.
self that that the seagris' ohaIs :. r'ss the
objected to the record because you ,'o' remember.
seaqr,s, charge over again. NOW you =. nos
o"e' So o,,o A-That is what presume IL was
oon "a .ben I reminded you that upon tna1
~ .-iend Frank Farrell. was one o 80. w
,.,,osses who testified that you were SUN no
49,, =, tho time it was charged agaihs' 20
ou recall that testimony on 'a'uiu u"'
cau something touching on II. r,ou-o,,.s occu-
can eaar 7 reminded you of Mr.. Farrel - oo.u
~, no was poolseller. Do you rene'''-
pa"o', t,t,oc.that that was his reputation ~
9id no' YOU remember testifying ,d mat not ne Wa"
legged 10 Keep "a you testify about that ,,ne NJ
l,her l,~ don't know him TO DE III '""
business s.ng what you testified on i,, saturda9{ a.
Al am answering to the ed, neSi line Ut of business
not know thal ne vu ~ misunderstand the quesripoant
H., ie NOT asking you that He Is sXdeniy must
n;, he Is s,estihed on SATURDAY. ~ he was in that
you testifed that l did not kn9" 9 "e
Inc of business. because 90 mo at No "a West
0nHo9f o,fouffhs didn't yog? 50; ~on have for
CIT Sat Is eV'Is''s test'monv You remember nat
gotteanl ma to an abb don't you? A.fe friend Of
'o oS'IAnd do you remember tha' he
yours nd do YOU not recall my asKns IN tbe yoo oyer
snd Ge sS a"d SS%ps yo" ssd put n DO
Tepu;ed PS9ls9eeA eAi don't understand your queS-
ton. ., 49,, Won were acquitted on thal
hssroe Won say? Al Was ..o~s. Tho first
oso hays '3sss 3osrt Va OF oyer and TeTmnI
on one a. cbarge relating simply to IL the sogse Martin
Edridee-s second rsm9yS S 9 the time Of the
e2ow inS upon the esm9ny nj
people VINO lnt of the Chief OF Police ana tes-
nedd ed hat they mad paid you money mo Court tHfn Of oyer
ira OF III M those are the matters that nave
ana ana itjed are they not? Al believe those are
the matters. - C.-.t,,oo ,,iil be able TO de-
,orn,ine from this statement which they las, 80 go
~. 80 is I'm the untried case az HeanquartcIs