New-York tribune., 1899-07-29
NO YIELDING TO KRUGER.
DEBATE on SOUTH AFRICAN SITUATION
IN PARLIAMENT.
srATEMENrs BY Mr.. CHAMBERLAIN AND
LORD sALISBURY-STILL HOPING FOR
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LORD sALIsBURY-sTILL HOPING FOR
PEACEFUL SOLUTION.
London. July 2s-In the House Of Commons
,o-dav the Colonial Office vote furnished the
liberals with an opportunity for debate upon
the Governments policy in the Transvaal Sir
y. B.Campbell-Bannerman. the Liberal leader said
he thought that in view OF the negotiations
lending reticence and reserve must rule debate.
while ne did not sympathize with Boer opposi-
zion 70 franchise extension. he saw nothing
from beginning to end OF the story TO Justify
armed Intervention. War in South Africa with
one Of the Independent States would be one Of
,ne direst calamities possible. The speaker
,leaded for further friendly and prudent action
through Dutch sympathizers at the Cape. He
saw no reason why this should not achieve
conspicuous success. a similar course had
oone IN Canada in time past.
Mr.. CHAMBERLAINs STATEMENT
The Secretary Of State for the Colonies. Joseph
Chamberlain. opened his speech IN reply by de-
daring that Sir II. Campbell Bannernan's Ian
r,,age was calculated to embarrass the action
~ the Government.
The grievances Of the Outlanders Mr. Cham
be-lsin said were admitted all hands to be
outrageous treatment TO which they were sub
.Arte5 was part Of the settled policy pursued
nv the Beers The situation was dangerous 10
,r,nerial interests AS regards the racial feud
coming out Of war. race antagonism already eN-
,sted and was poisoning the community. The
danger Of disarfection in Cape Colony ana the
Orange Free state was entirely due 70 the ac-
zion Of the Transvaal II was not question OF
, ove or a seven years franchise, but OF the
-o,var and authority OF the empire and or the
rosition Of Great Britain IN South Africa" he-
fsrring 70 offers Of colonial help Mr Chamoer-
lain said that II the matter were happily ar
ranged II would always be -stisfacuon 10
think that IN time Of trial me country might
ccunt unon the loyalty Of the colonies.
Mr. Chamberlain justified the right OF inter
vAntior FIRST because II was the right OF
every civilized Power 10 protect It's own SUD
4Ac+s. secondly, because Great Britain had tne
right of intervention under the convention az
The suzerain Power; and thirdly, because 'le
convention had been broken ir letter ana III
.,-,. pera--,ng 70 Sir H Campbell Banner
,.a,,s Aulorv Of the Hon ". P. schreiner for
-oarlv Prime Minister Of Cape Colony ana J.
11ofrnvAr the AfrIkander leader, Mr.. Chamoer-
lain said both Of them had declared that the
earlier and nlusory proposals OF PRESIDENT
Kruger were entirely adequate and SATISFACTORY
When they were quoted az Impartial JUDGES
whose assistance the Government ought 70 IN
vite. the House must remember that they hau
been al least little premature.
In dealing with the latest proposals MI
Chamberlain said
president Krtger has invited friendly advice
and the Government has thought itself justified
in appealing 10 him that joint inquiry should
a1Q uer
determining what representation win be imme-
6ia-alv given aliens which can be the only
basis ~ satisfactory settlement. II the inquiry
g accented EXPERTS will be appointed. and the
Government hopes that then II will be possible
~ reach an agreement. In any case, the Gov
ernment will press for necessary alterations in
order N secure the objects in view. We have
undertaken the cause Of the Outlanders, and are
hound 10 see II through. We shall not rest until
81 conclusion satisfactory 10 us has been reached.
: anticipate that the efforts will be successful.
but We will not tie our hands in regard to meas
ures that may be necessary TO fulfil anticipa-
tions"
The House adopted the Colonial Of1ce vote
without a division after a protracted debate
unon the South African policy Of the Govern
lnent.
IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS
In the House OF Lords to-day the Earl OF
Camperdown called attention to the Transvaal
situation The Earl of Dunraven and others
followed. all declaring that any departure from
the recognized policy of the Government would
bA an act Of ,nestirnable danger TO the position
os Great Britain not only in South Africa. but
g might shake the imperial existence Of Great
Britain itself The Earl Of Selborne Under
Secretary for the Colonies. made statement
similar in purport 70 that made in the House
of Commons by Mr.. Chamberlain
Lord Salisbury reminded the House tnat ne
absolutely dissented from the policy Of 1881,
urb,cb Was tainted with the grave fault OF
o,+,r,isrn Nevertheless. President KRUGER as
sertad IN the protocol of the 1881 Convention 10
fr,endlv co-operation Of the races; while he has
since taken an absolutely opposite line MS one
EFFORT being 10 separate the English and South
African Governments. and TO reduce the Eng
nsb 70 the status OF a subjugated race.
The Premier declared that he was not sur
rrise5 that manic overlook President Kruger a'
The ,n,err,ntion Of the gold digging IN loNo'
bu. bA blaroed him for not consulting the bri'-
So c.ove-rr,ert as 70 how TO deal with the
rba,or,eron He agreed that II the latest con-
oessions were genuinely carried out ','e W.
eminent might look forward 10 peacelul so'u
ZION ~ the crisis Her Majestys "oVeli iliii'N -
he said had nut their hands 10 the ploush' anu
certainly, did NOT intend 20 withdraw therh'
APPS pFROT AND MR.. BLOOD