The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1899-04-15
ITO the victors Belong the spoiIs" Ia
ration He Presides Over.
ASSESSMENT OF CANDIDATES
MESSRS. DAILY AND PRYOR TELL HOW
TAMMANY GETS MONEY.
BIeeds WouId-Be Judges from $4,000
t9 9s2o'ooo-John +. Carroll Not
an Easy Witness.

was on the stand to-day before the Mazet
investigating committee and he will be on
II and again tomorrow. John f. Car
he Tammany leaders chief deputy.
o put through a course OF question
mis- afternoon. Judge Joseph F. DAILY.
lom the Democrats refused TO renominate
FOR justice OF the Supreme Court last fall.
told Of his treatment by Mr. Croker and
Tammany. while other prominent witnesses
contributed testimony that went 10 make
the day most notable one in the investi-
cation into the city's affairs.
The examination of Richard Croker was a
remarkable one. chiefly by reason of the
answers which he returned TO the questions
propounded to him by Mr.. Moss. He was
brief and direct and took advantage OF
many opportunities afforded him to retort
in manner that evoked applause many
times from those gathered I'm the committee
room. Mr.. Croker gave events a somewhat
dramatic turn when, after refusing to
answer several questions concerning his
private affairs. he held up his right hand
and said, impressively: 'If you can show
me where / have taken a single dollar from
this city you can cut that arm Of" Mr..
Moss drew from Mr.. Croker the fact that
the Tammany chief believed that all the
offices of the administration of all depart
ments should go to the victorious political
party. ITO the victors belong the spoils,'
he added.
Perhaps the most interesting part Of the
investigation to-day that in which Mr..
Croker was questioned closely as 10 how ne
had made his money. Mr.. Croker refused
10 tell of his private affairs. but admitted
that he was a member Of several companies.
one of which is the Air and Power Company
with a capital stock of sl00ooooo. He said:
I've got nothing TO conceal. If any one
comes TO me with a good stock TO buy, I
buy IL and so would you. / will not go into
any details of my private business" In
cidentally Mr.. Croker praised Chief Devery
and the police department and was the
stand when the hearing adjourned.
LEADER OF TAMMANY.
After Mr. Croker had been sworn this
morning Mr. Moss asked: 'You live at the
Democratic Club. do you not?''
''Yes, SIR said Mr.. Croker.
You are the leader of the political or
gandzation generally known Tsmmany
Hall, are you not?"
II don't know that I am"
Generally conceded, are you not?" asked
Mr.. Moss. suavely.
We'll" said Mr.. Croker, 'T amt talking
L
Mr.. Croker agreed with Mr.. Moss that
the government OF the city and country de-
pended upon the existence of political par
ties. Mr.. Moss asked If the leadership gen.
orally accorded Mr.. Croker was not based
largely the fact that he had the reputa-
ton of being a truthful man. Mr.. Croker
said he tried TO be a truthful man. Mr..
Moss had asked Mr.. Croker a number OF
seemingly immaterial questions regarding
the organization OF Tammany Hall. when
Mr.. Croker interrupted him and said
sharply:
ut is not necessary 10 bring all that up.
that which everybody knows. There is
use playing TO the galleries; there is no use
OF making a speech. We all know every
thing that has been said We know that L
am the leader OF the party, and i acknowl-
edge il, and that all these people are my
friends, and that 1 am going TO stay with
them all the time
There was a roar OF applause as Mr..
Croker finished this sentence Mr.. Mazet
raped for silence. Mr.. Moss rather sar-
castically said the applause was all right.
and that he hoped the chairman would al
low IL once in a while. 1t did not discon-
cert him.
Just give me good. straight talk" went
on Mr.. Croker when the applause had
ceased that is all. / am talking good.
straight talk, and that is all / want All
these gentlemen know that am considered
the leader. All these gentlemen are my
friends. You have taken half an hour for
nothing What is the use of that?
I'VE will try to accommodate you. Mr.
Croker" replied the counsel.
GIVES T4ANIMANY ADVICE.
Mr.. Croker said he gave the prominent
Tammany Hall Democrats a certain amount
of advice and direction. Sometimes they
followed 1t, sometimes they did not Most OF
them followed IT. Mr.. Moss read a list OF
the Tammany sachems. Mr.. Croker admit
ted that all or nearly all Of them had
prominent positions in the city government.
Mr.. Croker admitted they had been consult-
ed regarding the selection OF men for Of
fetal positions in the city government. but
denied that he had dictated appointments.
He conceded tho proposition that he had
probably greater influence with the munici-
pal administration than any other citizen
He Was a believer I'm the theory that the
party in power should have all the Offices.
He had interested himself IN the Astoria
and Amsterdam gas questions because the
peoples rights were involved. and he had
notified the Tammany members OF the
Municipal Assembly TO attend sessions and
vote on these questions because II was their
duty TO do so. He could tell nothing about
contributions TO campaign funds. and rem
dered no account 10 the finance committees
of Tsmmany, of which committee ne was
the chairman, OF the money disbursed by
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