New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-20

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Q-But you never knew OF any resolution being
| passed by the Board OF Estimate and Apportion-
ment upon this article? A.-Not upon this article;
| no. sir
t0-How. then. did you expect /, to be used?
M1w did you expect to get used in the sewer
fourth wardsr~ Amy man that has any article
nas rgh, TO present II to the city as well as 70
| get II used.
gard to- patented aFtic I A"Patented d" articles
are used In. In all the other departments
and Apportionment? A.-As near az can learn
.o0zyOu are not stating that matter of fact?
| Ac@No sir, am not
rQ-You know that provision OF law, do you? A
Q-Yes X.~Yes
Q;---lt in the old charter. was It not? Al
,Q-YOu knew that there had been some com;
| A.-No not that can recall
that N. said oDv You 9S,ns ,n in the papers, Ayes
s xo4S S0s s ss~ New IN the North Side
Q:|And did you and Mr.. Farnum talk about IT?
No ! can't say that We did can't recall of
S Ss to OF
that? A-NO, / haven't sold any to the Depart
ment.
o.-sold any? A.-No sir
$50 that one OF the principal objects for the
formation Of your company has not succeeded yet?
Odd you go into the Sewer fpe Trust? A
that IN aHg ws ss' connected with the
fact that your original idea Of selling this pipe
didn't catch that question
Question read by the stenographer as follows:
And is that in way connected with the fact
that your original idea Of selling this pipe to the
Department was not carried out"' A-No. can't
say II was.
HAD NO VOICE IN THE TRUST
Q.-why did you go into the trust If YOU couldn't
sell your article to the Department? Al had
nothing TO do with going into the trust My fac
tory went In, that Is all there was about IT, had
nothing TO do with IT,
The Pittsburg company went into The rust yes SIR
e we had hs 20 do
with the trust at all.
go that your particular local idea. when you
matter has been ather wiped out by the formstiSn
Mr.. o'sullivan" a few a. questions gu are
simply the agent, as understand it. for this com
Q.-A1d this trust formed outside of this
State? Ayes. sir.
that rast nAG A nGo" sir 10 DO !" the ''"A'0"
in the psp %f'f ns TAes s Isr to Rs s
he Interview Of Mr Raymond, was i not Al
Q.-Have you ever known OF city contract or a
contra let out by the city IL which his self
Q.-iave you ever studied chemistry. Mr. Rogge?
Q-For how long? Al was a; Cooper Union two
years in the lecture-room and three years in the
Q.-You made illusions to vitrihed pipe?
What do You mean r, BY vitred PIPE? AA pipe to
glass possible and If it Is thoroughly vrihed. 1t
make ps ppe to be- article the
nearer YOU can come 10 thoroughly vitrfying the
o.-Have you submitted pipes of different makes
TO any tests? A-Yes. sir
of such pipes? Al have subjected all the pipes
which under my 0Gs aSns wh sHSe
sGf aGd and csasd soda %n "a aOgs
that have been laid
SALT GLAZE EXPLAINED.
Q-You made reference the glaze the sam
pies you gave to Mr. Clarke What is that glaze?
A-That is a salt glaze. sir.
Q.-What is the glaze in the body of the pipe?
A-There is glaze in the body. We distinguish
the difference between the glaze and the body. The
pipe itself call the body while the finish We call
the glaze.
QSHays you eyer been zen present whs Ta they have
SIR 9-su'n as Mr. Raymond referred TO- Ares
Q-How have you found them2 Al have found.
in several instances. where the pipes have partly
Q-what is the object to be attained in these
object to be attained as nesr as can understand
in a sewer, without any Joints ....
was the sum total Of it's value, About ;e5.
Q.-That Is all the business you ever did with the
4.-Was the selling of sos worth of your pipe?
Believe ''T d dfRa[ inquire
until after had sold it. and then learned that
part OF il used to repair part OF The Bronx
sewers and part of 1t TO repair old sewer in
Mr.. Clarke.You did not form your company for
the purpose Of selling only $65 worth? A.-No.
STILL HOPES THE CITY WILL BUY.
Q.-You intended and hoped to sell great deal
10 the city? Al hope to now.
Dr. OSulllvan-And on the merits OF your pipe?
Ayes. the merits OF my pipe. II you will per-
nit me. l would like TO explain the advantages OF
von M Ppe %h hs pipe and
MIR Clarke-That is not quite the issue here. We
Our pipe has been condemned on account of It's
sef-centring socket II you would ike to hear It,
!, o %S%'q the e" other .H kind kind ~ 'N Wv
9- -WhSS oq is "i Mr. Haduven' Ale is
tractor. , --..oo.o
SRfow ons have have yeu him. guess
must nave known him fifteen or twenty years
S.-ATe ' you on frank and pleasant terms With
him? Al don't see him often: once In while;
O-When you do him. you know him well?
Q.-And talk freely with him. Ayes
o.-You introduced him to Mr.. Frank Croker.
didn't you? Al did.
| o-On Murrsy-st? Al can't say where.
o.-At that time you were Engineer Of Sewers In
the Borough Of The Bronx? A-No
O.-Are you sure? Al am.
O-When was II you introduced Mr. Haiduven
IN Mr. Croker? AIN the latter part Of December
O-Just after you resigned then az chief engi-
| neer? Alright have been yes
OFF It was while you were not chief engineer. II
was in December, just after you resigned? A
Yes.
Q.-Because you resigned on the lsth OF Decehn-
Der? A-On the 18th.
CROKER's NAME AS LEVER.
n MD Won tell Mr. Haiduven that Frank Croker
would be in the pipe business and Haiduven would
know where to buy his pipe? A.-Not that can
recall no.
O-You don't deny II? A.-Maybc did and may