The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1899-10-20

but OF sympathy with the objects OF me
government on the part OF the colonies.
/ have been as anxious for peace as my
man, but the government holds tnat
there are considerations which are even
more important than peace ana one OF
these is the maintenatee OF eqlaiily oe-
tween the white races IN South Africa
In fheir endeavor 10 maintain peace,
the government has shown endless pa
tIence. II was President Kruger VINO
settled the Issue. He appealed 70 the
God of battles. II may do SO with rey-
erence say we accept that appeal De-
lievlng our quarrel Just.
Mr.. Chamberlain, who had spoken two
hourB and three-quarters. resumed M
seat amid loud and prolonged cheering.
United States Ambassador Choate
and Henry White, secretary OF the
United States embassy, were IN the
chamber during Mr.. Chamberlain 2
speech.
Morley Makes n Point.
John Morley Liberal member for the
Montrose district, on rising to speak,
was greeted with loud cheers by the
opposition. He said:
"A very material change has come
over the spirit OF the discussion since
the brilliant, eloquent, forcIble and un-
answerable speech OF Sir Edward
Clarke, and Il now seems as II we are
going 10 war, not for the franchise, but
for SuEerainty. Under the name OF
paramountcy we are going to impose on
the Transvaal obligations which the
government would not for the lie ok
them dare Impose upon any selt-goYs
erning colony.
Mr.. Chamberlain interposed: "If We
could imagine such case as SELF
governing colony lmpoAlng on Q mas
jority OF ita inhabitants such conditions
as the BOerB imposed upon British sup-
jects, we should interfere or cut the
connection"
Foundland was a remarkable case OF
alienation Of territory In favor OF an ln-
dlvidual, but, though that corresponded
10 the position OF ahalrs In the Trans
Yaal, air. Chamberlain refused TO in-
terfere.
Mr, Chamberlain said the cases were
In no way comparable.
Sir Edward Clarke, Conservative
member for Plymouth, said the more he
had read the correspondence the more
convinced he had been OF blunders in
the negotiations and that this lamenta-
bic war was unnecessary.
For any minister to assert tnat we
since 1884 have had suEerainty over the
ransvaal'" Sir Edward declared, was
certainly at variance with the facts and
4 breach Of national faith. President
Kruger hnd had much difficulty with
his yolksraad, and on many occasions
mad shown himself moderate and an
advocate Of peace. There was no Fea-
son why the conditions which Presl-
dent Kruger attached to the franchise
proposals should not have been accept.
ed, seeing that suzerainty was dropped
in 1884.
asked think his reply TO the Transvaal
OF September s, concillatoryY
Mr.. Chamberlain: Certainly
Sir Edward Clarke: Then ] think
this amendment proved to the NIT
(Radical cheers).
Question of interpretation.
A brief discussion between MFR.
Chamberlain and Sir Edward Clarke
ensued, respecting the Interpretation
TINT should be placed upon Mr.. Cham
beriain's reply, the colonial secretary
maintaining that the tenor OF the reply
was 0onclliatOry, saying: We couid
NOT accept all OF President Bruger's
conditions. Though we accepted nlne-
Sir Edward re5oined tli5t Mr. chann-
beriains remarks made the matter
more and more sad. II this sort OF
thing had been going on, the war was a
crime against civilization. 1t was very
unfortunate that parliament was not
sitting the first week. IN September OF
the seven year franchise would have
been accepted and there would have
been no war. Mr.. Chamberlnin's con-
duct Of the correspondence he charac-
terized as most clumsy.
He had given twenty years unswerv'
ing support to his party, but there was,
Sir Edward continued, deeper and
truer loyalty to party than bllndly go
ing with It in a division and In the lob
oi,it him OF disloyalty In having strlven
TO prevent his country from suffering a
calamity and his party from suffering
reproach for having embarked on an
unnecessary war. (opposltisn cheers')