The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-22

/ should fancy it was l or o'clock in the
morning. was sitting IN the LOBBY OF
the Golden Eagle Hotel and certain par
ty came to me and said that TINS Assem-
blyman had told him that he had peen
offered $4,000 to vote for Bulla Tor second
q. That this Assemblyman that you had
talked to
x. do not mention his name. was
told that this Assemblyman, t OLD TINS par
ty that he had been offered $5OVV 10 vote
for Huber for second choice.
Q. Bulla, you mean, instead of Huber.
A said: THAT is what ne told me,
with the exception that he did not specify
9. And was that certain party in the
Golden Eagle Hotel an. AssembIyma4n1?
Then that was another of the lndennaple
rumors going around that you based your
A. I thought possibly there might be
some mistake in the amount, DeC pei oe,,d
did not know Mr.. Jimmie Copeland could
raise $4,000 unless he had. the Southern
Pacific Railway sack at his back, or Was Was
working for Dan Burns, and went 10 t ms
Assemblyman next morning and put the ne
question to him directly in TINS way, 80
/ didn't think there could be any mistake
about it. said: When CopelIaad9db on raise
q! aNoR price, and the AsSemoiSi"AH
O.. And how long since Jimmie lie, Cope sIs,
land was an attorney for the Southern
| Pacific Railroad?
A. Well, now, when I say that he was
an attorney | cannot swear tnat nat PoSiI road
cases among his other business, and what
| ever statements | made in that respect
as far as / know, are hearSay.
| Q, You do not know whether ne was
] ever an attorney or not?
A. / could not state that of my own
! knowledge.
| @. In the article you refer TO a pay car
| being here. What do you mean by that?
A. Oh, that is simply josh
| 9. The Assemblyman mentioned no sum
| whatever?
A Not at that time.
| O. And he did not tell you that Cope
land mentioned, any sum of money?
| A Did not tell me that at that time
| Q. Well, did you see Dale after this,
| then. and talk with him about the same
| case?
A. have seen Mr.. Dale several times.
| Q. Did you talk with him about this
| same case? Did you ask him more about
| it? Did you see him again about this?
| A. do not see how [ could say that L
| saw Mr.. Dale again about this case when
l did not state that Mr. Dale was the
| man / spoke to-.
| 9. This same Assemblyman. then?
| A. Yes; l have discussed with this same
Assemblyman this same case.
9. What did he tell you the next time?
! A. Well, we did not go into that fea-
ture Of it. At that time when 1 put this
question to him the second morning,
" s,Uod Jimmie Copeland offered you this
price|' ne went on to say-he answered
the question NO and he says II am
sorry that AT told you that Yesterday He
newspaper men come to me and
asked me in regard to this case" and he
SAYS SAYS, / III have said aid nothing 91 Gee about it,
| IS making these Offers [ says, yours is
not the only vote in the Assembly" I
says; He certainly, must want other
made similar offer to some other
party" says; THE statement will get
out, and some one will be interested in
taking it before the Investigating COM
mittee' an: and !, the story will come out any
way. Wei, ne says, Il think possibly
it may" | gathered the Inference from
| that-and it is the only inference that |
have-that this Assemblyman did not care
to have me mention his name and I have
respected his confidence to that extent;
and l have not touched upon the story,
except in the way in which you have seen
! In the Times, and the only statement I
nave had with him regarding it since is
! what he has volunteered himself in nv
presence.
@. Did he ever, in any conversation with
you. mention to you that he had been
| offered any definite sum of money?
| A he mentioned In my presence and
| in the presence of another gentleman in
the Golden Eagle last night, that he had
| been offered that sum.
& z. $685. W6st sum?
9. He said last night that he had been
| offered $4,000?
| A. Yes, sir.
| @. By James Copeland?
A. By James Copeland.
y. Who was this other gentleman?
A. Well, l will ask the chairman if he
thinks 1t is necessary that l answer that
4 question.
The chairman-Well, that is a matter
| for the committee to decide.
! Mr.. Mellick-1t seems to me that this is
no confidence to be respected. l am will
| ing that he should not tell the name of
that Assemblyman. Being a newspaper
| man myself, L appreciate the confidence
that newspaper man must have. But
party and in the Golden Eagle Hotel, and
do not think that that is a confidence to
be respected at all. l think the third
| party ought to be mentioned.
The chairman-As a matter of law
| neither party is protected from a state
| ment of facts before such an investiga-
ton as this. If there is no objection to
| to answer and state the third party
name, Mr.. Washburn.
A. Captain Barbour of San Diego
| Mr.. Mellick-Is he in the city now?
| A. / think so.
O. Now then, Mr.. Washburn, relate the
! conversation that you had last night in
A. Well. as matter of fact there was
| so very little of it that I cannot relate
anything more to say than that this AS
semblyman said that a false impression
| had gotten out that he had said that the
money came from Bulla. He said: Il
never made any such statement" He
! said: 81 never accused Mr. Bulla of pass
ing out this money" He said: 81 never
thought such a thing" He said my
understanding of it was that this money
was offered to me to keep Mr.. BuIla in
| the fight. For instance, il he should lose
vote, that there might be a vote ready
to take it's place" and he said: When
| Jimmy Cortland offered me the $4,000 l
did not understand that the money came
| from Bulla."
q. Then what did you say?
! A. / didn't say anything.
G. That was the extent of the CONVEX
| sation?
| A. So far as recollect it.
! @. Did Barbour say anything then?
A. No
Q. What else do you know about this
case, Mr.. Washburn?
A. This Bulla case?
@. Yes.
A. Well, do not know that I know
anything. l will leave, it with the rest of