The daily morning journal and courier., 1899-11-15
SOME PLAIN QUESTIONING
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 Do you think that the care and dis tribution of the supplies make it nec- essary to have an additional clerk in your office? Otherwise would it be pos- sible to dispense with one or two clerks?"
 The committed ruled this question out. MT. Chillingworth of the committee vol unteered the information that one clerk could be dispensed with.
 MT. Fox-"If a teacher, when the drawing period comes, feeling that she can use that hour or period In helping the children in something more essential, such as writing. English composition, spelling, reading, grammar. arithmetic, literature, geography, history and civil government, than in drawing, would she be permitted to do sop
 MT. Chillingworth asked what that had to do with supervisors, but MT. Fox, paying no attention to the interruption, went on to explain his question to Mr. l Kendall,
 MT. Chase said that he wanted MT. Fox to treat him and the other mem bers of the committee with respect. He l t7e'iu eifeit II Y OA ulul ! QO lliis llC l would go and leave the committee with no quorum present.
 MT. Fox explained that he\wanted to ask MT. Kendall if his system allowed a wise and discriminating teacher to use drawing time for more essential things 1 Chairman Staub allowed the question. MT Kendall-"It might be question of debate between educators whether | English composition was more essential than drawing. Teachers would not feel at liberty to give drawing time to other essentials"
 l Why Is it that in some schools I find drawing with colored pencils from pota- toes. turnips, apples, etc., and in anoth- rNschool the principal says that they have not had potato or turnip to draw from this term?"
 Ieachers are all given some option. They all have the same outline of work You Will find in the outline there that | there is an option of work" How large a percentage of boys and girls, in your opinion, develop such I facility as to add in any way to their l capacity as wage -earners?" T can't say that it helps them in that way any more than can say his- tory does. A very large proportion of the pupils are helped by drawing" Tn what lines of manufacturing in- dustry in this city will the color work | which the children do be of any great help to them, in Sargents, the clock shop, the corset shop, Winchesters, the rubber shop, or carriage factory?" T don't think that I am familiar enough with the manufacturing indus tries here to answer that, but many of the girls have homes which color work helps them to adorn with dress and mil 1 linery and to do other things of inter- est to women"
 How will the black and white draw. ing help the girls?'
 Anything that teaches a boy or girl to execute and execute properly with the hand will directly or indirectly help them to earn living a great deal more, In my judgment than the teach- ing to analyze and parse in English grammar which we used to teach and which we don't now"
 What do you mean when you say we don't teach English grammar now?"
 "I mean the great mass of children who left school used to be loaded down with lot of technical grammar which they didn't understand and which we don't teach now.''
 You think it we'll to leave out Eng fish grammar and teach drawing?"
 "They shouldn't get technical gram mar until they get into / the high school"
 The question as to the value of color 20 aot, repeated.
 MT Kendall-"I answer indirectly by saying that think it will be of more value than learning the heights of mountains, names of bays and gulfs, etc.,
 Do you think that the teaching of drawing is of more value than teach ing of civil government"
 q don't think the pupil gets much good out of the study of the national government. The supervising, princi- pals and I are discussing that very thing now as to whether the pupils in all the grades below the high school le- ceive any real benefit from the study of the United States constitution. I don't care to express an opinion. With reference to city government I think they get a great deal of benefit froGl study of state and local government"
 At this point MT. Chase took occa- sion to say that he would accept Mir Fox's challenge to discuss the question publicly.
 The question concerning value. of color work in manufacturing industries was repeated by MT Fox and MT. Kendall said that he didn't care to answer it.
 MT. Fox-"What is the educational purpose of the water color work in the schools?"
 ''I went through that the other night, MT. Chairman"
 MT. Fox then read from report Of Miss Skinner, the former supervisor Of drawing, in which she indicated the bearing Of drawing on industrial arts