New-York tribune., 1899-06-07
MINORITY PARTIALLY AGREES.

Mr.. Hoffman-Mr Chairman the minority Of the
committee desire the stenographer TO note that as
Ear as that proposition is concerned the minority is
in entire accord with the majority OF the commit
tee this time, but time in previous investi
cations has the right been refused by the investi-
eating committee 10 allow heads of departments to
be represented before the investigating committee.
The minority believe that the heads OF departments
o. the city government. which is being investi-
gated should have the right 20 be represented by
counsel as has been accorded in previous investi-
cations So far as tbs dignity OF this committee
Is concerned II II will keep within the scope OF the
inquiry laid down by ths honorable body as 10
what Il should inquire into there will be Ques-
ton Of It's dignity but when It goes outside Of the
scope OF that inquiry this committee does not sit
as a representative committee OF the State OF New
York, but sits as individuals.
hope representing the minority here that here
after the line OF inquiry will be directed and kept
within the resolution and so long that will
have been performed this committee will certainly
act as the committee from the Assembly OF the
State Of New-York I regret exceedingly that the
majority upon this committee has seen ft to de-
prve the heads OF departments from being repre-
sented by counsel believe that DR.. O'Sullivan,
representing the city departments has done every
thing that he possibly could 10 maintain the dig
nifty Of this committee. and has been eminenty fair
a. all times. and the minority desires to dissent
from the rule Of the majority depriving heads Of
departments OF the right 10 be represented by coun-
sci here anc TO bring out any facts that they be
Neve ought 10 be brought out In this investigation
The Chairman-I only want TO say in answer TO
the statements made by Mr. Hoffman that he as
sumes that counsel have appeared here as a mat
ter OF right OF course that is not the correct at
titude. 1t privilege that was granted, and
has been granted heretofore In Investigations. but
IN no other investigation heretofore conducted has
that privilege been so shamefuy and Indignantly
abused Il has been In the OF this present
investigation: and II Is for that reason that the
committee feels called upon 10 take the action II
has this morning IN refusing that privilege IN the
future. ! think that the people OF this city-at
least I hope-understand that the purpose OF the
committee is 10 get at the facts and that is what
the investigation Is being conducted for; but the
action Of the counsel. claiming TO represent de-
partments here. has been such as 10 Justify the
committee in taking the action we did this morn
ing in refusing that further privilege regret that
i cannot agree with Mr.. Hoffman that they have
aided the committee. II is because the committee
believe that they have not done so. but that the
real purpose was rather 20 impair the work Of the
committee. that this action was taken
HOFFMAN UPHOLDs o'sULLIvAN
Mr. Honman-so that there shall be no mistake I
say that by the counsel representing the heads OF
departments meant DR.. O'Sullivan. and DR.. O'sul-
iivan only have no reference to any other coun-
eel
The Chairman-Proceed. Mr. Moss
Mr.. Moss-The Chief Of Police was subp9naed
10 produce some records. Are they here9 The
Chief has forgotten the subepna- Will you COM
municate with the Chief and tell him have called
for the record of arrests In all disorderiy houses
The clerk OF the General Sessions. Is the clerh OF
the General Sessions represented? am referr ng
20 a subpoena addressed 10 the Chief of PoIi-e
which he has evidently forgotten. II was served
on him a week ago
Mr. Moss-Judge Penheld Go out in the hall
and call Judge Penfeld. VIII you, Mr.. Chairman.
call Judge Penfeid?
The Chairman--Is Judge Pcnfed present?
The sergeant-at-arms will call Judge Penneld.
Mr.. Moss-Mr. woolley.
The Chairman 10 a person in court)--Take OF
your hat there young man