The age-herald., 1899-01-12
FORAKER DEFENDS
 THE ADMINISTRATION
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 --------->o-"-"-"-@-7-7-- ~----------~-o-~~~~ for self-government. But our occupation was not to be permanent.
 Ultimate Independence
 "1 do not understand that any one de- sires anything but the ultimate ndepend- ence of the people of the Philippines" said he emphatically, neither the president nor any one in this chamber"
 But what about our right if we chose to hold them permanently, with no thought of their ultimate independence?' inquired MT. Hoar.
 I've have an unquestioned right to do so," replied MT. Foraker. q speak particularly of our legal right"
 MT. Bacon of Georgia, at this juncture, asked what difference there was between our relations to Cuba and our relations to the Philippines, why we could not deal with the latter on the same basis as the for mer, simply hold them now with the de- clared purpose of giving them self-govern- ment as soon as possible"
 "The case of Cuba" replied MT. Foraker speaking with great deliberation, was a single one, involving only our relations with Spain and the Cubans themselves"
 Tn the case of the Philippines, there were other complications which cannot be spoken of here, but which sena tors will hear in executive session which justified the pres 1dents course in the most ample manner and vindicates most completely everything he has done In fact, no other course is safe in view of the object we naturally sought to attain-justice, not only to our selves, but to the people of those islands" What of the statement about hauling down the American flag?" interjected Mir. Hoar. ''No one desires to retain the Phlipoines indefinitely returned MT. Foraker again "The president is as much lover of lib- erty, truth and Justice as is the senator from Massachusetts, and his love of liberty goes out to the people of the Philippines as unerringly his"
 MT. Hoar did not mean to say that a great continent upon which roamed few thousand savages having no government and being incapable of government should be passed by or that civilization should stop at it's threshold.
 Repudated the Conclusions
 MT. F'oraker repudiated the conclusions reached by MT. Hoar. "As I understand the senator from Massac achusetts," said MT. Foraker, "the march of civilization ought not to be stopped for lack of consent. The march of the French across the dark cont- nent and of the British to Fashoda is not, then, to be interrupted"
 MT. Foraker maintained that the govern ment of the United tSates had ample power to acquire territory by treaty, and he de- handed to know of MT. Hoar If he did not
 
 constitutionally.
 ''Ihe trouble, MT. President" continued the senator, lis that the senators are talk ing about a theory instead of a practical condition. What have the senators who have discussed these theories proposed? Nothing. You all know the precedents of the conditions we face. We had made war, and it's fortunes had carried us to the Philippine. When the end came those is- lands were in our possession. What was to be done? Four possibilities existed. We might return the islands to Spain, allow some other country to seize or gobble them, the people of the islands might be left to themselves and anarchy exist there, We might ourselves take possession of them. The unanimous voice of the country was opposed to the return of the islands to the tyrannical government of Spai. In many of the state conventions ringing resolutions against such course were adopted, and one of these was the convention of the state of Massachusetts, from which MT. Hoar comes
 1T presume the senator is opposed to this course," remarked MT. Foraker amid laugh ter.
 Opposed That Course
 'The return of the islands to Spain," re- sumed MT. Foraker, was therefore not to be considered. Were they then to be left to themselves. About the time this ques- tion was confronting us l saw repeated newspaper statements from Aguinaldo, and his associates among the insurgents to the effect that all the countries of Europe would be on their backs before breakfast if the United States deserted them at that jupcture. We could not leave the islands at the mercy of other countries. Such