New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-16
o.-pesplte the fact tina, untrted indictments ar.

o.-Despite the fact that untried indictments are
against them? A.-Never closed.
Q.-And despite the fact that there IL at least
your u p expense! upon H@Ye sn'S CLASS 0
Q-There is more than one precedent IN
was was Illegal hlSafu''r contract nat """'
Q.-Then this particular style Of contract Is the
Kind OF contract you were convicted on ana a, me
kind OF contract that stands behind these inoict-
ments here? Ayes sir.
Q.-Have you any information about the reason
OF your prosecution or the method or manner OF
II? A.-Nothing positive informed by some
OF my associates that had | secured different
attorney I should never have been tried didn't
know II until too late
Q.-You secured your private counsel? A
Yes. sir.
Q.-Mr. Bell I believe It was? Ayes sir We
fought well could.
Q-And you were unsuccessful In your motion
to get your transferred? A.-With the rest
OF them. The rest were all transferred
Mr. Horman-Who was II suggested 10 you to
employ an attorney? A.-Two Of those people who
under indictment. O'Connor and Harris
o.-what was the name Of the lawyer suggested
to you to employ? A.-vernon NJ. Davis
THE OTHERS HAD V. NJ. DAVIS.
Mr. Moss-well. Mr. Davis appears by general
retainer for all these people? Ayes. sir
Ole is the man that generally appears for the
defence In all this class Of cases? Ale has all
these cases.
Mr.. Moss-Nothing peculiar in that, so far as MI
Davis Is concerned.
Mr.. Misunderstanding the witness states H.
OIL know as the witness states IT, Because OF
the ability Mr. Davis has he has succeeded In
keeping the indictments from trial? Ayes
QAnd these gentIemen while they aTe up Hnd
the police detective on the stand to-day couIu no.
tell where the buckei-shops were In his precihct
ali ties together Now. these bucket,shops are
not conducted in secret; are they? 40, sir all.
right in can't you? A.-Yes, sir ,,.
,bs,o vas iarge number Of people there buying
similar privileges? A-Dozens OF them We ,
Q.-And have been all the time? A;-fes SIT,
C-And n the police want to know where bucket
shops are. they can find them easy enough a.
They are quite wide open; there Is no secrecy aoou
Do know Of other firms ,S s9gassd b in
sides those that l have named? A..Wen mere
some cases out OF that number mat was =, ar
were indicted. don't exactly know. but some OF
those were not indicted r,or
Q.-were the Mcmillan people indicted? A-They
not in that particular raid: they were RACED
September previous TO that. ,,..
Q-Yes were they ever indicted? Al believe
o.-Were the Dean people indicted? A-Yes. sir
Q-Now out OF all the procedure against bucket
shops. the sole result far as the people OF the
State are concerned the conviction OF one poor
man. who was a clerk for eleven days In one shop?
A-And that was four months afterward.
Q-And that Is all there is to show? A-That Is
all there is 10 show.
Q-Have you heard anything about fund being
collected in the Stock Exchange TO assist IN get
! have heard II.
Q-That has been brought 10 you in a straight
forward and direct way has It? Ayes. sir
Q.-You understood that fund placed al the
disposal Of the police to enable them 10 get EVIL
dence? Ayes sir to close UP the bucket-shops
INDECENCY IN THE TOMBS.
OIL think that Is all-oh. one moment You
mus, have observed some things while you were In
the city prison. understood you to say you were
committed TO the city prison. A-Yes, sir
Owe have had testimony about the conditions
in the city prison and I want 10 ask you about
them. Was It so that female prisoners were all
kent together In one particular place. clean and
dirty good and bad? A.-From a m. 10 p. m. :.
yes. sir
Odd YOU ever observe the conduct OF any OF
those prisoners OF vicious character? Al did
ON what way did they act? A-Boisterous
and rough.
Q-Were they decent or Indecent? A-Oh' no. IL
would be unprntable, think.
O-So fl was a fact that any decent women that
were IN confinement there were compelled 70 sub
NIT at least the hearing, Of such. and associa-
ton with such people, A.-Could not do otherwise
they all together.
Odd you read the testimony OF Mrs Howard!
Al think | did.
O-Uithout going into the details OF that or her
testimony as 10 the enforced association with that
class Of character and the quality OF the food sup
piled was her testimony practically correct? A
It certainly was.
OIL think that is all.
Mr. Honman-Did you see any female prisoners
at any time during your stay? Al was appointed
an assistant TO the plumber.
O-At the Tombs? A.-Yes. sir =
0-Were YOU allowed IN the part OF the prison
where YOU could the women prisoners? Al
was Nv work called all over the prison. For
instance. II a gas Jet to be fixed anywhere.
would fix II. ~, =.
O-Were you there serving time at that time?
Ayes sir.
O-What time did you serve? A.-Three months
o I'm that capacity while serving time did you
gel around in the different rooms? All over the
Women's prison. wherever there was any plumbing
10 be fixed.