New-York tribune., 1899-06-14

terday. Their testimony follows in full:
$4,000 FOR AN OFFICE.
THOMAS NJ MULRY WOULD NOT GIVE THAT
FOR A COMMIssIoNERsHIP.
THOMAS NJ Mulry sworn.
NJ Moss-Mr. Mulry. were you a candidate for
,Ae post Of Commissioner of Charities? A.-Yes
o-That Is when the administration was
.ons,dering the making of its appointments? A
Yes sir.
o-And you were the candidate OF a number
=. charitable societies. were you not? Ayes,
cir.
o-Tbey stood behind you and made claim for
your appointment on the ground that you were
no, practical politician. but who would
rsr,esent charitable interests in the interests OF
charity A.-Yes. sir
o-You we're not appointed? A.-No sir
o-you had various conversations with people.
,,,e,ds ~ yours ana others regarding that can
Sdacy while It stood. didn't you? A.-Yes. sir; l
id
'o-And in those conversations suggestions
made that II YOU would go 20 Lakewood and
nay in $4,000 you would get that appointment,
we're there not? Ayes. sir.
o-They were? A-Yes. sir
O-Where were those conversations had? A
VEL they were had any number Of places; the
psople who made them not in authority TO
make ihcn-merely giving suggestion.
o-Of course we understand that people in au-
thori;y would hardly go 10 you directly with these
matters but where were the conversations had7
A-Oh couldn't tell you that maybe in the
street-no special place.
-C-They We're conversations that grew out OF
your candidacy were they not? Al presume so.
yes. sir.
o-And conversations had in furtherance OF your
candidacy with the object OF helping your cam
didacy on? Al suppose
Q-And those persons that you talked with were
members Of the organization. they not. some
q them: Al couldn't tell you that; some Of
then may have been
Q-They were persons who sufficiently In
,erested In your candidacy tC make It a subject Of
oonversation? Ayes sir.
Q-Cau you not remember any Of the places
where this conversation took place? A-No, sir.
CAN'T REMEMBER NAMES.
Q-wil you name any Of the persons who made
these suggestions? Al could not because did
no, think enough OF II 10 remember II. did not
mink enough OF the matter TO remember.
Q-But as | understand II. you were not willing
under any consideration. for any purpose. 10 pay
money for the getting of an appointment. and you
rejected every such proposition? Al said was
aoi willing pay for any appointment but
rsysr had the proposition made 10 me by any one
Who had authority 20 make It.
Q-I understand that But there was common
tax Of It? Allow do you mean-excuse me?
Q-Common talk in these gatherings while your
candldacy was IN progress, o.-what was?
Q-That you ought TO 20 70 Lakewood and put
up about $1,000 A.-Well IL not common talk.
Il might have been mentioned couple of times;
not over couple Of times.
o-Wasn't 1t mentioned several times? Al
could not tell
o-And by several people? Al don't remember
i was mentioned in general conversation.
Q-By several people in general conversation. and
while number Of people were together? A-Weh,
there might have been three or four OF us TO-
gether. There no general assembly OF people.
Q-And in practical conversations, in talking
over your candidacy and what you were 10 do
about 1t? Al suppose so; yes, sir.
Q-You suppose so? A.-Yes.
Q-Are you a member Of the Democratic Club'
A-No sir.
Q-You are not? A.-No
Q-Have you ever been? Al never was mem
ber.
A-Are you a member OF Tammany Hall or
ganizston? Al am a member Of the General
Committee.
sQ-Of the General Committee7 A.-Yes, sir.
Q-That is as far as you have gone? A.-You
have start somewhere.
Q-You have 10 start somewhere. yes. I think
that is all.
HOFFMAN TAKES A HAND.
M Horman-Mr. Mulry. these suggestions which
were made by some Of your friends about paying
ft,ND Tor an dppOintment-QlQ you DentNe
A-The trouble was that of us were practi-
ca politicians We put that out - feeier::,
read hat T Mr sps1 stenoRrapReT oRTs SeTT0" again
The Offlcial Stenographer-These suggestions
which made by Of your friends about
paying $1,000 g f0T an you oseVf
didn't know enough about ii.
Q.-These persons that you say made these sug-
sestions TO you made them upon their own re-
.Q-Without any authority from anybody? A
/ don't think they had any authority. .,-.
Q-lOu believe
did you that appointment could have been pro-
cured at that time under any such conditions that
could have been procured under any conditions.
M Moss-why, not. Mr.. Mury? A.-Because !
Known and my call ot work was very different
.Q.-You were not a practical politician? A.-No.
QAn you had in your favor was that you were
man versed In charitable matters, and had char.
laple societies behind you: that Is all you hsd'
o-And that you didn't consider sufficient at
such time as that was? A-No. sir
these understood that as matters we're not Ja
Clans? That the custom in the party? A-That
q sne custom in all parties, believe. ..u, g.
.hS.-Ihe custom in ali parties. and the talk IN
'hst N party at the time? A.-Yes. sir. ,..
a. NHayor with reference TO your appointment
A:rNot ~, that remember. ,,-..
yoI The :, chsirman-You would rsmember wouldn't
~; II you had talk with the Mayor A-he
WasIS POSSIBLY have said something ABOUT IT,
S--YSoogg know the Mayor: do yOg7 YES We air
-And nave talked with him? A-fes' sH
paa 6T bdson R U talk yGg with an
"5Ser talked with him about a position .n.
plained to Nj Moss that the charitable societies
IN OCf 70 tne matter up, and left the whoie matter
S-l,, was lett with them. was it7 Ayes
OR. Philips did ''ii' not respond and Mr. Brt-cOo
was called In his stead)