The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1899-12-28

II was pain that the question tickled Mr..
and hs So While a
Ames is the most expert penman in the world
wonderful"
occAs1ox1L MISTAKES.
YOS % Ssep s %strt snnt haze ,So you m St
mistaken would be mistaken in saving so. go
Vow mei a oh il co ,hs mot tell
Adolph Besse in Brooklyn in 1882 A. Yes.
testified In TINT case.
With S pen nS si nS Sat Yc s Ta' forgery done
q And it subsequently appeared that the
pare, was ithog5rHph IA anRri'y' No. sr'
case, but YOU forget some things. Let me ask
prosecution and the defendant was promptly
acquitted A.. Again angrilyl don't remem-
Der anything ot the kind.
Mr. .0shornc was on his feet again. Directing
AM the Recorder thought that MIR, Weeks had
sGns a IRVINE S sSa S%
On the nrst trial the deiendant was Josephine
Tran and you testified, Mr.; Amss that Il was
The defendant was iAaolph Bessc ami It wa, was
you said II was. but that IL was a lithogreph
and the Jury instantaneous acquitted Adolph
Sas pasdons those a ars the acs just
wanted 70 refresh your memory. Isn't that
-" don't believe that is true" said Mr., Ames.
Il don't believe ever made such n mistake IA
| to testify that a Autograph was pen-and-ink
SlI II 1 did why was mistaken that is
%. You remember the Becker case in San
Francisco? Did you testify IN thatF a. NO.
q. thought / heard you mention that
| among ,he list OF famous cases that you hat
| testify in that case. | gave an opinion. but my
testimony was not needed because the man
| y. You gave an opinion in which you talked
about pen pressure and lts influence on you i9
4. / gave an opinion in that case put 1t was IN
| formal. II was not an official opinion 1t was
| In a talk with the chief.
| writing with the defendants Handwriting. did
you not and you gave to the chief as your
| fcndant you remember that. don't you. and
you remember that subsequently 1t appeared
by the confession Of the man !ha,.-A. never
=, Now want to object to this thundereh
he nmp ,Sc
ness with the con'sssIGn Of thief who pleaded
'Mf. 6sSoi%s s!Iil shouted ard Mr. ", Weeks ks
certaincd since you gave your opinion in that
case how that writing was made with a brush
II never said that II was not made with u
| brush never said II was made with pen
| my opinion did not say whetheFr was maze
Mr.. Osborne repeated his assertion that Mr..
| Weeks was quoting from the confessions OF a
convict and Mt last he attracted the Recorder 9
attention but before any decision could be-
reached in III" matter the Becker ease had us
| appeared. aud another case was taken up. IL
was a case in Brooklyn.
RECORDER LETS IN ALL MISTAKES.
| U In this case do YOU remember tina. cor.
| tain signatures were handed up To- you and
that you testified they were written by tho de
the pnT.f s were wten BY r"ut ks counsc'
| \. \ Part OF that Is true aud Il part 81 not.
natures we're haQdci M 10 me. ana one l
identified oii-haud as the signature OF the de;
iGndaqt Il was an on h"n ,h "p,m'om thS No
mistaken: In the other two | was correct. As
| say. 1t was an oT-hand opinion. made with
. You remember getting four envelopes
durlug that trial and YOU stated that on two
the handwriting was dlsgui-rd: that the third
wasn't and in your opinion. the other one was
written ey the defendant. aud 1t cane on,
1na, f"y Ts,G W hi
Il again part true and "A large part untrue. |
rcmcmter getting the addresses. and gave
an on. hand opinion IA regards one OF them.
| and was wrong. But | see what you are try:
Ing to get at. Mr. Weeks. and will say that
think there was monstrous miscarriage oil
Yes. ana there may have been monstrous
ts-,monW in other cases" said Mr.. Weeks;
there was ia the Josephine Trau trial. for
Mr. Osborne was laundering out more ot!c
tons which the Recorder overruled and Mr.
.. You testified in will case recently in
Redwood city. You RECALL going on tho stand
there in the morning and t"stiyinR that certain
writing IN one OF the books presented was the
you went on he stand and c6apred around
an on Oh. You va" dont rc "a" ~ BIZ You moi
change your testimony rrsariinR certain wiz.
! IA par "a writing that OF tn,
case ut all. hut was merely incidental TO II. II
was not positive opinion that had given
ards with which to compare II. | found that
was wrong and went on the stand and said so
| ] was wrong about that particular outsid,
piece Of paper
IDENTIFYING CRoss-MAREs.
o. Did you ever testify that you could tcn
thy the cross.mark ola person. A. beliey,
q And in how many cases have you testiflo,
10 that effect; A. Well. two cases appear 4
~ !. the expert. made this assertion smil,
| went around the court room and the lurymci
looked at zach 2thS[ l. ss%md Ppf'Ggary T.
number. who had obtained admission and Sa
by the southern wall Of the room. but tn
> Mr. Weeks asGe / Sir 1mes 10 name ',h
| cases and Mr. Amcs said he could not rcra
|; any more than that one Of them was IN Jerse
l q You remember the Jersey City case. d
3 | you2 You remember tcstiYing In that cas-
| and identifying III" Cheeseman's on "a chcc. an
SAYING TINT IL was not the CHEESEMAN'S 81 IN
!, | person whose name was on IL A. don't re-
| member.
O. You don't rememhcr you testified TINT /
your opinion the cross mnrG WAS not the mar
: 81 that retsonE \. don't remember the eli
n cumstnnCeI.
r q Then You haven't any recollection al tn
Y following testimony reading:
+: o. You have examined tho mark tho note Wit
the mark signature IN tuht murtgag", aud wa
thn mark - signature on thg check Of the Srrurii
| savings Bank aud with the mark II suAturr u
4 the chrys Of the j. ward Savings Bank. have 80
a nOtf 4 ] have.
: o. with regard to the note, what do you md
y lis being the note of Bridget linn N \ aud hrs
with reference to the three crosses upon tbs NOR
= gage and two bank checks, that these cross,
nrr made ~ that the lines stand lihc that tcrusslI
his fingers 'itea sawDuck, In the crosses upon II
three sisnatnr,s md that the pen held sid
= ways. that when tho cross II ftom the LETT 10 ia
q rlgAt tho uihs both under pressure an
. opened, 30 as 10 make u shaded line. while n
: ono which passes from tlght to lett q
a nibs followed one after the Other, masking m
, line. that there Ia story that the position Of q
! nrn tells with reference to the shade ot tho lines
i mud that the lines are IT. mulou~. md that th"i
=, was much IT. NOR IN the pen that before tho y,
struCF the paper e. make tha motion there was 50
:. If hook. tn" top and Mt the huttOLl ais
r 30 that II was made evidently with hand not unl
a a tr "a ttpsa !.