New-York tribune., 1899-06-08

win soon grow up to 10.
o-The city gets nothing for it. does IT. A-So<
at present:
OIL. there any one IN your Department that h&s
any interest in any meter company? A.-None that
I know Of
o-Any friendly interest? A.-None that
know Of.
o-who is the principal man in the Thompson
Water Meter Company? Who Is the treasurer Oh NJ
A man of the name OF Kay
o-Joseph ". Kav? Ayes
Q-He is really the prominent man IN that com
pany? Ayes. y.
Q-rs he not the same that furnished o
meters 10 city OF Brooklyn just prior TO 1ano-
airy l. 1896 which resulted in the Indictment OF
couple OF officials there? Isn't that the sans
company tina, made the meter? A-Tnree nun
dred and fifty furnished there by him
Q-There a number? A.-A numoer. yes
o-Furnished or purchased In excess OF the cor.
tincate, and as result Of the transaction one Oh
the public officials has been convicted ana w
dlcted2 Al din't know II.
Q-You know something CT the transaction nov
that call II to your mind Al know meters
were furnished there: pretty nearly all OF snem-
O-Then there were $50 Thompson meters sup"
plied 10 the city of Brooklyn in the latter part o.
1897 Ny information is that there were sso o.
llvered on contract for 500. Do you know anytnins
about that All know Is what was paid; u
vouchers made out.
Q-And that number delivered without Coz
tract, at least without biddins, WITHIN wv
weeks? Al couldn't say.
Mr. Hofrman-Do you know who those persoe
are that ordered them: what oficia.s'
Mr. Moss-I tell you Mr Fielder ana sal.
Knapp Mr. Knapp was the Water Purveyor. ana
was convicted They furnished in September.
1897 That was one count in the Indictment
WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK
o-That is the Thompson Water Meter Con-
pany OF which Mr. Kay is the principal man. VINO
is at the present time supplying large numoes %
meters TO the city generally A-To the con-
sumers. yes.
Q-But they were 70 De listed oy your oePs''-
ment? Ayes
o-Now. is II fact that those meters have been
listed notwithstanding the fact that there ats
utRations pending involving the validity OF thssf
manufacture on account OF other patennE A.
The Department has had notice OF H.
O-But hadn't It learned OF the fact haant "
heard OF Il? Al have heard OF II. sir
Dwell II you had heard OF IT, why have yos
not taken means TO ind out? A-simpy oeca"ss
I think the Thompson patent anteoa'es the ps''"'
OF the other companies
|. o-Have YOU examined that? Al have. sir
o-Have you required the counsel OF the COM
pany to give any bonds? Al have not
Dwell why not when the ci,y's and the prop
erty owners interest at stake? Al 90 n'<
think they at stake
O-Are there as many ten thousand Ino"p'
son meters in use? A.-There Is
d And YOU realize that II the National company
| had a Judgment and cared TO DO IL. that they
| could throw out those meters? A-That u
| possibility.
o-And that possibility is not protected IN any
| way by any bonds? A.-So. sir.
o-You are familiar with the installing OF the
| worthinston pumps a different plsces7 Al am.
| O-One at Ninety -sixth-st.. believe! A--in'es
| at Ninety-sIxth-st
o-Three IN Brooklyn? A-There are nine IN
| Brooklyn. ~--.
| o-And where else there some7 A-wen,
| there are some along in the smaller stations 'n
Brooklyn-I suppose six or eight more
| O-When were the first put in? Ain the CIV
| of New-York In 1880
| o-And the last? A-The last IN 1891.
| y WHO comn..ed for the bids with the WORTH
ington company? A.-Three or your niae'e"'
| parties ,.,.,
| Odd the Holly company Of Niagara comPe's'
| Al do not think
| o-Isn't II true that the Holly company mA
| q tower bid for some Of those engines? Al dont
| know. cs "a
| O-I am Informed that they made DID AZ adv"
lower? Al don't know the fact
| vy,i vou look over the records and ascertain
| that fact? Ayes.
ENGrNEER RELIES on FoREMEN
,h., attends 70 the changing Of tAs
! uster eates7 A-The different repair gangs. -.
Q-And under whom are they Ssr w9sx'sB ~ Buli' one
o@poes Nj: Bull know III the location OF all 'h'
gates n ,ne c ,bst record kept? A-our maps are In
'ne po your maps show every gate in existence'
A[hey oIs o no, fact that your Department does
| moi know how all the pipes are located ana tne
only way for them 10 ascertain that is oy hss
| up the streets to find out? Ain large HD'"'~'
o,@And isn't that so In reference to the sasss'
o.N4re not there gates that are not on the msp'
AoEWhat record is kept of the condition OF the
water gates? A.-The repair account foreman.
each foreman-keeps record OF the gates IN Ms
's.r,8s o"Where is the record kept' A-The record Il
gin whose oflce? Am the ONCE OF repairs
| transmitted 10 the Commissioner? A.-Not unless
o~rhe Commissioner has no record report as to
| the condition OF the gates? A.-No, sir.
| Q.-How many OF these foremen are there' A.
S@HGw much DO they EsSeiys Ssv as 'aary' A
Fye fGsrs an1 aaya sections ad are sections
az o-Eishs gangs and six sections? A.Yes. sly
rests primarily With the foreman man snat re-
-.o.-rpon cal he may transmit that to your A.
SIs there Te' any E regular system for doing thst'
A.-There is regular system for that
unless you ask toI IL A1N9i unless we ask for I,
| Q.-An the section presided over by one foreman
| depends upon him primarily? A.-Largely.
rENoRs BIO RESPONSIBILITY
Q-one section runs from Houston to Forsy-sse-
| ord-st? Ayes. sir
o.-What section is that? A.-The second sec
| tion.
| O-Who has charge OF that2 A.-Mr. Tenor.
! o.-And his record is at the section houseY A.
| Yes. sir.
Q-At Twenty-hrst-st7 A.-Thirty- y-hrst-st.
Q.-Supposing anything should happen TO M.
! Tenor-he is the man In charge OF that distrtctr
| Ayes, sir
| Q.-How would you know at once the condition
| of that district? Ave would have 10 get some
| ONCE map. and see the map where the gates
were and what condition they were in.
Q.-Yes. Then you would have 10 go 10 your fore
| man In an emergency and ind his map and see
| what records he had put his map? A-No. We
| keep a copy Of II In our ONCE.
have already stated he isn't undeY