New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-25

he was holding fair7 AYES. ,,., ,,re, A.
o;;3,Did you go to the park at 'na' ''"e'
o'GTo admoni,h him that he didn't DO the right
'" oeAnS necessity for it? Al admonished him
'Vo eoAbS,,' Have any talk about wine with him?
o.M1Yes Al never drank glass OF wine N
didn't ask you 4, you sos ever drank nd & no asked
NO TALK ABOUT MONEY.
o.-Any talk about money? A.-No. sir
Q.-Not at all A.-No, sir
O-At that or any other time? A.-Or any o'he'
time.
O-Does your precinct cover One-hundred-and-
twenty-ffth-s; A.-Nct now. At that time IL o'd,
Q.-when did you move out7 Ain January
was moved out ,, M Won
whyv Al don't know a t M, about Soor s
owned by Won Mr know rsTc Mr. Percy Nas ST,
o:-Do you know o,T him as connected VIII" ''''
'V 9'~You do noty A.-No. sir; there wasn't any
O. Where? A. I'm one-hundred-and-'~eh''-
hi % Where An one-hundred-and-twenty-
N.Y., OF know; but where? Ain any part OF 1t
prevent % s0S p4sSsn being run
hsre AT sdn because there
oDdn gcorCOm running snV in ~s she
ask yoa captain would be ysry
ind whether captain ySa rs Seas a you dd
prevent the running Of poorooms While y oreyent
n that district Al oIi had Se no occasion 10
Dd hear Of any b Ssrs on heare anyfhng
about IL since / left the place; ~. ,.,ver,
Ono but when you were there: 30. 20 10 stand
for pooroom and refused do it. and then W as,
x frG s saHe d asened 70
YOU had been asked. wouldn't you! A-nos' az
nBnt YOU were transferred very suddenly ana
Won don't know why? Al don't KNOW ,H an HE
about it. have been transferred
oHow long have you been in the pS ye on ne
o., dav Of November OF this present year
Albany DID NOT INTEREST HIM .
o-no Won belong to the Oficers Endowment AZ
ISOLATION? Al do. sir. .,,,
o-That was formed on the sth or e'h VI '"a''"'
~, informed? Ayes sir: .o .rv s,m,.
am n :, anv predecessor? Was there any s'.'''
~ or0anization before In the Dep'
None that kno" oi' .,oroad 10? A-None
o-None that you ever
80 ever belonged TO- roundsman about?
Acne minute; n0 Certainly from 1881 to the pres pres
wGS oh M Raxs yOu Al might
Io'-Well, when did you oe''"'
May. i 1852. Well. certainly from that time you
-rcS,,ld know? Ayes. ,,zation TO your
o~There has been Na- no s isgaY k"NO. sir.
kno"i nd YOU take any interest IN ponce amgh
ton at Albany this year? AVN "''
SD,d Won know there was any iegisia'i'" p"N
to .bere9 A-Read II In the papsIs.. .ato INV In
ing WAS the reason that you didn't ,ake o ANY not ,
terest in ii the fact that YOU @x KnSS would give
pass od A ., here k Is PsGede IN
SOW oWhS? are people in SIs tSat
" The chairmanwhat PARTICULAR bills do you re-
for TO- A-No particular bills 1880 ...ro
qNo particular bin Then Why "a, do You Ssa make ass
the statement AMBecs aS bets t ON like the
st TSs CHbairman.They could make bets
MIR Clarke-You regard legislation IKE a s,och
market? A.-Why. certainly. II man is fore-
" o"Do you mean captain. that you took no in
terest in police legislation? A.-No. sir
Q-You knew that bills were penang ce up d,dne
yS OF changed bipartisan Board Of four into
sinele-headed department? Ayes.
osNAnd there were other very radical measures
up there one the State Constabulary bill? A.
'e o-Whch would take the control Of the force
Eo% the Gy aYes ana 10 the
Q-You knew that? Ayes.
.oSSAnd you didn't take any interest In 1t at all'
DID NOT TALK OF LEGISLATION.
tains which Inspector Kane called about police
legislation? A.-Not 10 me.
Q-Or about the Officers Benevolent Associa-
ton? A.-Not at that time.
Q-Not at that time When did you first hear
about the Offcers Benevolent Association? Alt
Headquarters day.
o.-Headquarters? Ayes.
Q-From whom? A.-From the other captains
that were making application to become members.
and did the same.
Q-You were not present when 1t was organized.
of0 N Ua NJ
Odd the Chief ever say anything TO you about
It? Al have never spoken to the Chief since he
o.-What is the initiation fee. II I may ask, in
the Officers Benevolent Association? Alive dol
Q-Are there regular dues? A-There is regu-
lar dues that I know Of. unless an assessment for
Q-Has the question OF assessments come up
since the association was formed? Ayes; Cap
tain Worths assessment was made on the associa-
Q-Is that all? Al don't remember Of any
Q-You remember other assessment being
talked about? A.-No other assessment
organization? A.-No:
0.-There is a retirement pension fund of the
police amounting TO very large sum OF money?
Ayes.
(Which is controlled by law? Ayes. and the
police.
Q.-The treasurer OF the Police Board is the
treasurer of that fund? Ayes.
Q-And 1t amounts to good many hundreds OF
thousands. does 1t not? Al don't know anything
about that
Q-1Ou KNOW A. tlnterpOSlnB)-l know tnat IL
is there, and existing fund.
1T JUST CAME TO A FOCUS THEN
Q-Do you know of any particular reason. after
having been twenty-six years on the force, why
at the end of February and the beginning OF
March, 1899 at time coincdent with certain
pending police legislation in Albany. an Officers
Endowment Association should have been formed?
Al don't know any good reason why that par
ticular date should be selected. but do know that
1t is a thing that has been agitated ever since
have been captain, and never brought to a focus
until that time-why, don't know
Q.-But at that particular time focus was ar
rived at. as you say? Ayes.
The Chairman-After sixteen OF seventeen years
agitation? A.-No; six years.
Q.-Snce 1892? Ayes.
Mr.. Clarke-Seven years
The Chairman-Yes; seven years.
The Witness-It will be seven years In Nav