The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-24


speech n his behalf.
You We're agreeing about it were
And what next occurred after you
got through talking OF that, did you
say or Mr. Law that you thought that
speech would have some effect toward
ueteating McCune? What is the ques
DID you or Mr. Law, either one, say
thst YOU thought the speech would
nave some effect upon the election or
defeat OF Mr.. McCune2 We thought it
would nave the effect of electing Mr.
Cannon
You thought it would have the effect
of electing Mr.. Cannon, that it would
nave good effect on Mr.. Cannon and
a bad effect for AIr. McCune, was that
the idea? That was the idea
You were talking along those hnesE
Yes, sir.
And in talking along that way about
what Mr.. Cannon had said in his
speech and the Grant letters and
other things, didn't M. Law tell you,
Mr.. Stanton. that he thought that that
speech would operate TO defeat Mr.
McCune? No. sir.
And that it would assist Mr.. Cannon
in his election? No, sir.
Didn't he tell you that? No, sir.
Did you say that? No, sir.
You just remarked a moment ago
that that was the conversation, that
you thought it would help Mr.. Cannon?
Yes, sir
Why do you say no now? You put
the question different, that is why.
How different did 1 put II; DO you
remember; who was it said that ne
thought the speech would help Can
non. you or Mr.. Law? did.
It wasn't both Of you them on, we
were discussing the question OF the
speech all the way through
You stated a moment ago that both
of You said it, didn't you? We We're
both talking on that same question
Didn't you just say that both of you
said It? Yes.
why now do you say you did? We
both did in fact.
Is your recollection very good about
this conversation that occurred on that
day? oh. / don't know as L could re-
call al of it.
What caused you to recall it at all
two weeks afterwards? 1t wasn't two
weeks afterwards; il was only the
following Saturday after Thursday-it
was two weeks
Yes. sir. on Thursday the speech
was made, on Thursday and our con-
VersatiOn was on SaturdaT.
Well. then, I have got mixed on my
dates. the date the speech was. oh, yes,
but wasn't it two weeks ago. two
weeks ago last Thursday that you had
this conversation? We had the con-
xersation week ago flst Saturday.
It was a week ago last saturday!
It was a week ago last Saturday.
1t was not one week after you We're
first introduced to him, was it? l said
1 didn't remember whether it was
a week.
Didn't you say it was week after
you were first introduced TO him!
presume it was a week.
That was the way you put it, didn't
you? Yes.
QUESTION OF DATE.
Now, you say it was only about a
week ago? ! didn't say so. I
How long was it? y week ago last
Saturday.
1t was a week ago last Saturday?
That we had this conversation, yes
One week prior to the time Mr.. Law
stood on the floor Of the assembly and
made these statements, was It; do you
understand the question? Yes.
1 say was it? 1 answered the ques-
ton awhile ago, yes.
am trying TO fix the date. Now, are
you certain that is the time, are you?
A week ago from last Saturday.
A week ago from last Saturday? Yes.
You heard him make this statement?
Yes.
a week Udu tlaliStNs lAACll. a.
fore the statement was made. Were
you thinking anything particularly
about il2 / didn't think anything
more about it; no.
Did you charge your mind with what
he said at that time? 1 remembered
he might be remarkable man to do
what he stated.
Did you charge your memory with
that statement, l say, at that time?
did; yes.
You did, Yes
Carefully? Yes.
Why? Because 1 thought it was re-
markable for a man TO make that
statement
You thought it was remarkable for a
man to make that statement Yes.
Whom are you supporting for SEN
ator2 ! am not supporting anybody.
Not supporting 4. w. McCune? No,
sir.
Have you any bets on him? No, sir.
DO you say. Mr.. Stanton, that in your
common conversation around upon the
streets that you are not in favor of
Mr. McCune? Ne. sir; and you nor
anybody else ever heard me say so.
You have not? No, sir
Whom did you favor? l first favored
Judge Powers.
Who neXt2 I then was in favor of
Efr. Cannon. when Mr.. Powers got I
down to a single blind vote.
You mean the iady's vote, don't you?
Yes, sir.
Now. what else was said after you
got through discussing this speech? 1 (
ssked him this. why it was that they
couldn't get Bywater over into support /
ing Mr.. Cannon. to get his vote. He
told me there was only one man who !
lad any great influence over Mr.. BY Z
water, and it was "A man by the name
CT \ c. Staten Of Murray; l don't /
Proceed. What else did you say?
Was that all that was said? That
was all.
You were then discussing the ques- I
ton Of getting the Bywater vote. What /
conversation followed that That is /
That was not all that was said? That
was all that was said. He told me to /
see this man.
Judge Lochrie 10 go out and get him /
a hack. so he could make the train; /
he only had eight minutes TO make the |
train.
What else was said2 That was all
Wasn't there something else said in /
the conversation? 10, sir
Not a word? No, sir.
Have you given it all TO me on cross
examination Yes, sir
Every word you have said? Yes, sir.
or that was said at that time and
place. Yes. sir.
WHOLE CONVEX
SATION.
And you have remembered it YER
batim2 Yes, sir; there wasn't much 70