The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-23


is brought
The question is very plain there. You
ask II 1 thought he would bring me
such a message?
Mr. Evans-YeS.
Up to that time I did not
Did you afterwards think that he
would bring you such a message? At
ter the consultation which I had with
him, | think / did.
But did you think he would do it
understandingly? Well, that cannot
answer.
Well. what is your best Judgment
from what you know of the man, your
relations with him? My best judgment
would be that ne would not.
That he would not? Yes.
Redirect Examination by Mr.
Evans.
Mr.. Thurman asked you as an eIe-
ment of this question, and | want to
see If You Observation-Disclosures Mr.
WINS would bring you message which
meant bribery or that was intended for
a bride. is the substance of il. 1 think:
/ viii ask you to state now whether
the message which he brought you YOU
thought was intended for bride?
Mr. Thurman-Let that be read he
fore you answer il.
Question read)
Well. my answer would be the first
answer that I related. the remark that
l made to Mr. WINS at the time
1 am speaking now of the message
only, not what Mr. WINS intended. bur
the message which he brought from
Fisher Harris? Inasmucl as this in
quiry is confined TO the strict rules of
evidence, l would frankly say that Mr..
WINS should answer that question.
am not asking what you thought
but the message which ne brought YOU
the message itself, not what Mr.. WINS
had in mind, but the message which
he carried from Fisher Harris; did
You think that was intended for
bribe2 The language he used. yes,
sir, it certainly suggested that idea to
me
Mr.. Thurman asked you if you had
not been against McCune in this con-
test: 1 think you stated you had; I will
ask you why you had been against
him. Because I thought that there
We're other gentlemen
Mr.. Van Cott-Wait a minute. Read
the question.
(QuestiOn ready
Mr.. Diekson-That was the same OBJ
lection that Mr.. Evans made yester-
day. Mr. Evans made the objection
then and withdrew it and we will with
draw it now.
JACKSON'S KEEN SCENT.
Cross examination by Mr.. Dickson:
From the anguage-merely told him
TO come and see you, to get your vote,
no matter what the expense-you
thought you scented bribery, did you?
That was my impression.
What? That was my impression.
You scented bribery in that remark;
there was nothing said about money,
about amount No
They were willing to give. or that
you might be willing TO take? No.
The bare language was as you under
stood it. he told him TO come and see
you and get your vote. no matter what
the expense2 That is substantially the
words. yes.
And from that you drew the con-
clusion there was bribery suggested?
Yes. sir.
Did it occur to you that if they
wanted 10 bride you there would be
some talk about amount No; the
word eXpense-cOuld give any amount.
Did you think he had carte blanche
TO give you half million or anything
else? ! didn't say so.
But there was no limit whatever put
upon what he might give you, no mat
ter what the eXpense-it was left to
Mr.. Wins; that is the way you under
stood il: understanding il to mean
bribery or a suggestion of bribery you
must have understood. did you not, II
was all left to Mr.. WINS entirely TO say
how much you should have for your
vote? Yes; that would be my con-
clusiOn | think
was that your conclusion? / think it
was.
That whatever you chose to ask WINS
at that time for your vote, If you were
willing to make a suggestion of that
kind, he was at liberty 10 give you
any amount The language used was
10 secure the Jackson vote, no matter
what the expense.
Did you understand that Mr.. Wins
vas empowered by Mr.. Harris TO give
you any amount whatever that you
night ask for your vote? Well, no;
because Mr.. WINS could not have been
empowered to pay me million dollars,
lr two million.
Did you think he was uncovered to
1ay you anything? 1 thought so; yes
sir
JUMPED AT CONCLUSION.
Did you ask him? I did not
If you thought that he was empower
ID to pay you anything whatever, why
iidn't you ask him that? Why, l don't
Know why 1 didn't ask him, judge
Questions by Mr.. Evans:
You were not dickerins there with
lin for the purpose of ascertaining
low much money you could get, or
whether you intended to be bribed or
lot2 no. sir.
MIR. DicksOn-You thought Wins was
IN honest, upright. honorable man?
les, si-.
You still think so? Yes. sir.
Regarding him as an honest, upright,
honorable man. then you knew you
tidn't believe that he would bring you
proposition that was corrupt, know
ngly? Not knowingly; no
And yet you say you understood that
le was at the time-that ne was au-
horized to pay you money for your
-ote2 l do.
BY Mr.. Evans:
Now. Mr.. Jackson, you were asked by
Ir. Dickson if you did not ask MI.
wins something about whether he was
Empowered 10 pay you a certain
mount of money and fix the amount
-ou couldn't fix the amount, etc-why
idn't you ask him those questions
wasn't dickering for my vote
Is that the reason why you declined!
-es: l think il was; yes. sir; there are
ONE matters which might be explained
y me here, which would be ruled out
v the committee and objected 10 by
ounsel for Mr.. McCune. and, there
ore. 1 am not at liberty 10 state them
Wait a. moment | ask you to make
ny explanation. Mr.. Jackson, you
lease l cannot; no, sir; It would be
earsay evidence. Mr.. Evans.
That would be determined by the
ommittee: Il there is any explanation
GU want to make.
DICKSON WAS CONSIDERABLE.
MIR. Dickson-Let him whisper 10 you
THAT il is. and if you think it is proper.
SIX the question; we don't want drag
et here. The witness himself under
lands what evidence would be i'm
roper.
Mr.. Evans will see him later along