The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-28


Well, there had been times after that
Yes: there had been times after that.
And before the fatal Saturday spoken
Of? Yes.
When you had expected to be elect
ed? Yes
So that there was a number of times
that you expected that you might bs
elected? Yes. sir.
But were disappointed for some rea-
son or other-is that right? Yes. Ger
tainly.
ATTEMPT TO BLACKEN LLOYD.
You know Representative Lloyd. dc
you? Yes, sir.
How long have you known him? oh
1 couldn't tell you; 1 have known him
for several years.
Do you remember during the cam
paign when he was running for repre-
sentative? Do 1 remember it?
Yes; do you remember the incident!
Why, should say 1 did.
You paid his campaign expenses
didn't you? No, sir.
Didn't you pay his subscription? ]
did not.
Didn't you have any one pay it for
you? Not that know of; if they did
it was something 1 know nothing of;
paid 81. $50 to the county committee;
don't know whose subscription was paid
out of it.
You paid 81. $50 to the county commit
tee? Yes, sir; and he was the county
chairman.
Didn't you pay that to Dunbar?
did not.
Didn't you pay Dunbar anything at
all? No. sir-do you mean of this sew
enteen hundred and fifty?
No, an additional amount? No, sir; l
did not.
Didn't you pay Dunbar an amount to
cover the campaign subscription of Ben
T. Lloyd? No, sir; did not.
You did not? 1 did not
Have no recollection of that at all? l
have a perfect recollection that 1 did
not do anything of the kind.
Then you didn't pay it? No, sir
To Mr.. Dunbar or anybody else? l
did not.
Was this S1.75O in addition to the
amount which you paid TO the state
central committee? Fifteen hundred of
it was; two hundred and fifty of it came
from the state central committee.
So that then you paid $3.50? No. sir;
I did not; stated TO you what | paid
1 understood you TO say You un-
derstOOd me well; 1 said ten or twelve
thousand dollars.
Well, 1 was counting on twelve thou
sand dollars; well, it was ten or twelve
thousand dollars? Yes. sir.
This fifteen hundred? Was a part
of it.
Oh, thought you said only two hun
dred and fifty was a part of 1t? No;
said two hundred and fifty of it came
from the state chairman and fifteen
hundred of it that 1 paid to him indi-
vidually.
That is in addition, then. to the ten
or twelve thousand? No, sir.
1t included that, did it? Yes, sir.
And that included the five hundred
dollars. also, paid the Weber county
committee? Yes; it included every
thing.
That is. this ten or twelve thousand
dollars included everything that you
paid out? Yes, sir.
AS campaign contributions during the
year 1898? Yes. sir.
Did you travel anywhere throughout
the state during that campaign?
did not.
Visit county committees or anything
of that sort? 1 did not: l don't think
1 went to a county committee outside
Of
Mr. Thurman-We object to this line
of questioning; 1 don't see that it has
any relevancy.
Mr.. EVanS-He says he did not; 1
couldn't pursue it farther
Mr.. DicksOn-We will save time by
not discussing it.
The Chairman-We want to hear
everything material, and nothing else
Redirect. examination by Mr.. Thur
man:
You were asked by Mr.. Evans if you
shook hands generally with men, both
when you meet them and when you
from them. 1 will ask you if
you shake hands with man when he
extends his hand to you, as you say
Mr.. Law did in this case? Yes, sir;
always.
You testified. in answer 10 his ques-
tions, that you were arrested once in
your life? Yes, sir.
What was the result of the arrest;
were you discharged or were you tried?
I was discharged without any trial.
They claimed
Well, never mind. They got the wrong
man.
You said Mr.. Tanner had been vot-
ing for you before this special train
matter? Oh, yes; I don't know just
how long, but for some time.
BISHOP WHITNEY TESTIFIES.
o. F. Whitney. called and sworn.
Examined by Mr.. Van Colt:
Your name is o. f. Whitney, and you
are member of the legislature? Yes,
sir.
L wish you would state what there
was said. and when with Mr.. McCune,
if il was with him, or if it was with
someone else, what there was abOU
this biography. or what influence II
had on your voting, if that was men
toned? Last summer, before the cleo
ton
Mr.. Evans-I would like to inquire
il il is intended by this to contradict
Mr.. McCune?
Mr.. Van Gothic. sir; it is not.
Witness-I intended 10 contradict
you, l hope.
Mr.. Evans-What did 1 say?
Mr.. Van COtt-Wait. a minute, Mr..
Whitney: answer the question. Some
time last summer. before my election,
Of course. and before the nomination,
being out of employment, as Il had FIN
ished a contract with the history COM
pany for whom l had been preparing
the history of Utah in four volumes,
solicited from several parties employ
rnent as a writer Of biographies. l viii
state that the scheme of the history
of Utah is to cover four volumes
Mr.. Van Cott-Never mind about
that. The fourth volume 20 con-
sist entirely of biographies A
year ago last fall 1 contracted
with the history company to
write that volume, but before the
year expired. the appropriation was
exhausted. and I found myself with
good deal Of work on that, and no pay
for it. 1 was under the necessity of
asking several prominent citizens.
whose biographies would probably be
in the work. to prepare them for them
selves, so that l would only have the
work of editing them. Among these
prominent gentlemen were Senator
Joseph L. Rawlins and Senator FRANK
j. Cannon.
Did they both pay You for biOgraph
les? Yes. sir Mr. McCune was an
other. and Hon. Clarence E Allen Hon.