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out Of the Democratic Club2 A-whatI ! made
in the Democratic Club was very small affair
CSks p ot rotes m u az w fhS yo nm ne
day OF December at the Murray Hill Hote
when you were making arrangements Tor tht
II Il not at all unlikely.
Q.I;Were YOU not both together ,receivins
gcntlcmcn who came up there, and had been
selected and making certain that they would
he on hand and IN their places the next day
Al want o tell you that nobody selected any
~ THAT is not an answer TO my question
We're you not there with Mr. Croker, receiving
ceiving anybody may have been there talk
ing with Mr.. Croker or whoever came in.
VAN wYCK Is VAN wYCK's BOSS
Q-1s it contrary to your notion Of political
chief exccutivey Al don't know anything
about that. am here to answer questions aS
to facts and j am not going into an essay on
politics.
fIatt and ask him that question; he knows
more about leadership than do.
ter authority on municipal politics than Mr..
Platt. A.-You mustn't say that to him: he
'o.-we are trying to find out the influence
that controls the government of the city Of New
York. A-As think have told you before,
the influence that controls the Mayor Is Robert
O.-Do you mean to say that the heads Of do.
IN conferencee eeh with other men than O yourself
Ayes. will say that IL Mr.. Croker had died
o mnns before sSs wsrS o
Q.--Do you mean to say that Mr., Croker had
nothing TO do with the selection Of the men you
the selection OF the Mayor.
they not to the
b. slx, or seven thousand people;
Q.-Were they not suggested to you by Mr..
Cf2ker5 A suppose he talked then them ,DS oyer
pointed d, them had he been dead u,,, A.
s,os oWh2 snnn.at stands ma sp9rsor Tor your
o;-Area YOU of, the platform that you stood
on in lS's Al am not t. on any platform. l
o. suppose by that answer you will illus
trate what you meant when you said you were
here TO testify to facts? Al am here to tes-
tify to facts
HAMILTON REMOVED As A PLATT MAN
Q.-Now. Mr., Mayor let us take up the office
OF Chief Of Police. Did you not have oonsulta-
tive t" the incum bency OF Mr. McCuilaeh ?
A 4 talked with him.
Q.-But before you talked with him did you
not talk with members OF your organizatio ton
Al don't recollect with whom talked. ex-
cept that | talked with him. r
Dwell. when you talked with McCullagh
You believed that he was not a proper man to
be retained as Chief of Police, didn't you? A
Odd you base your opinion upon his state
ments only or from statements that had been
made, to you by others? A.-From what
,Q.E;Was there any general complaint about
Q-Before you came to any conclusion about
McCullagh did you have the same sort OF a con-
clusion about Commissioners Hamilton and
Q.,-When did you, first have any complaint
made that produced an ri mimpresson upon your
er men to be Police Commissioners Al
made up my mind in regard to Mr., Philips
when he WAS pdifted made up mind
,Y%,Wssa'tt Sir, M Pbiiiiips indicted a consider;
AHe was and T wrote 'S him ne Vet ietter sh that he
would have to seek a.spcedy trial or would
have to remove him in the public interest. He
didn't do 1t and | removed him
O..There was no such reason in the case Of
NH Mr.; Hqmilton. was there Al will tell you
and he came to the Mayors office. itold him
| had heard that It had beer, said that McCul,.
laEh h had agreed not to make any transfer of
consented. and that he. Hamilton, would not
QuiEg I asked him i that was 50. He
said II was all 80 except as to Quigg that he
didn't 9d., say QpgG but tn, that he said Senator
could not be run from Washington and that I
wouldn't have any wranGle in that board.
won't have Police Board that carries on o1 as AZ,
they did ten years ago. when Republican was
IN ONCE.
CALLS HAMILTON A BLAcKMA1LER.
,QWhy was not Mr.. Hamilton At to be in
act unless he had the consent OF Senator Platt.
,,QLWere there any other reasons? Ale
Q-Mr Hamilton blackmailed the Casino ?
A.-Yes. sir.
Q-And you have proved .that7. Ale had
propretors OF the Casino and they failed
When he became Police Commissioner he
nm Sad er hey tSe
bill and got the license:
Q.-Haye you given all the reasons? ? A.oYes,
had combination and we would soon have a
repetition. Of what Commissioner McClave was
commsson where promotons MsfS Sepid be sod
would do Al think man NV Who @ Would blacfi
Q.-As the Chief Magistrate Of the city did
S9u eSpss any % %frmHna to be
Gid you advise Wis itF H X."No A. 0'
o:33Did yogg y consult with the District Attor-
him against the old Commissioner of Public
Works, but because that man wore Grand
Army button he was not indicted. and got
.Q.I;Ars you tired Of the District Attorney {?
A;oN4; am not tired Of the District Attorney.
fidence? Al A. '' do. "'''' "of'''' o' your COLI
Q;-Why did y99}n NOT put this important mat:
teT 10 IN tno ndn0S OF
the criminal authorities Al gave 1t out to
the newspapers: everybody knew 1t.
Q.-But the charter requires the Mayor to
be yigilant and active in causing the ordinances
OF the city and the laws Of the State to be ex-
ecutcd and enforced" The law OF the State 10
that the blackmailer shall be arrested. prose-
cuted and sent to prison. When you found a
blackmailer in your official family do you mean
that you did not give 1t a thought? Al did
not call the District Attorneys attention to II.
You cannot convict unless you can show Grim
inal intent: That was shown in the case OF
Willis and Philips. tried over in Brooklyn the
Q-Was 1t right to have Willis and Philips
indicted and tried? Q-Yes OF course
Q.-And wouldn't 1t have been right to have
Mr.. Hamilton indicted and tried2 Al don't
know
Q-Now. Mr.. Mayor. are you really serious
when you say that Mr.. Hamilton was black
mailerp A.-You call him to the stand and ask
him II he didn't collect that money.
Q.-Oh, am asking you now. Al be lieved
was told.
Q.-You have said he was backmailer. A.
Ask him about 1t. put him on the stand. cross
examine him. and ask him II he didn't collect
that as Police Commissioner.
Mr.. Mazet-He will he put on the stand. but
you have taken a certain course OF action and
think this committee and the people have a
right to know what motives actuated you in it,
A.-Cnder the charter had an absolute right
TO remove any one Of these officers within the
first six months without any motive.
Q,-Nh htch in your opinion was the moro i'm