The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-24

for Mr.. McCune?
Mr.. Evans-One- moment, don't an
swer that, please I object to that a.
being general and immaterial.
Mr.. Dickson-We offer TO show by this
| witness, who has been in charge of tbs
campaign, as well as by Mr.. McCuns
himself-we will make the same Offer
| then, and Mr.. Evans in his own judg-
ment may object to it or not, we Offer
TO show to the members of this COM
mittee by witnesses under oath that tbs
campaign of Mr.. McCune has been alb
solutely pure so far as the use of any
means to obtain votes or any membel
of the legislature is concerned, and thai
so far as the witness now upon the
stand is concerned, the campaign man
ager having the campaign of Mr.. Nc
! Cune in charge, is concerned, that he
not only did not himself, but that &c
| his personal knowledge there never has
been q. dollar used Improperly to infiu-
| ence the vote of any member of the
legislature; there has never been d
promise co eXpend a dollar, to pay a
| dollar in the future, or any considerd-
| ton whatever for the vote of any mem
Der of the Legislature; that there have
| been no means used within the knowl-
edge of the witness, except what were
| strictly honorable and proper TO be
used. We will offer, when Mr.. McCune
| comes on the stand, to make the same
! proof by him, and the committee can
exercise its judgment as TO whether
| they desire to hear proof of that kind
! Argued by counsel.
| Mr.. Howell-InaSmuch as the COM
I plant alleges that and the main wit
ness testifies to it, L move that Mr.,
| Harris be allowed to answer that queS-
! ton.
! Mr. Cummings second the motion.
The question was then put and the
| chair declared it carried.
| (QueStiOn read.)
No, sir; 1 have not. If had 1 would
mt be with Mr.. McCune.
HOW MONEY WAS SPENT.
Cross-examination by Mr. Evans:
Do you handle all the money that
is being used in this candidacy of Mr..
McCune's. All that L know anything
Of
Do you handle all that is being used?
/ think so.
You think you do? Yes, sir.
Have YOU an account Of the money
you have been handling? I have not.
| Have you kept an account? l have
not.
How then do you account to Mr.. Nc
| Cune2 1 do not account to him.
| Do not account to him? No, sir.
Doesn't he pay you any money? 1
beg your pardon; do you ask me
whether he pays me for my personal
service or for use in the campaign?
For use2 What money 1 need L get
from MIR. Cuae.
Don't you keep an account of that?
1 Go not
Why not? Simply because I do not;
1 never have.
How does he know that you use the
I l. i L .e-N
Mr.. Evans that he could probably
answer that better than l. 1 remem-
ber if you will permit me to say, that
l asked Mr.. McCune if he wanted me
to take vouchers for expenses and he
laughed at the idea 1 don't know
whether you know it or not, but 1 am
very busy and have been very busy,
and I have no bookkeeper and no
| stenographer.
How much money have you received
from him? I cannot answer that ques-
ton at this time. l can look it up for
you.
Have you an account? I would have
to get the information from some other
source.
What source? Mr.. McCune, he would
know
And have you accounted to him for
the money paid out? l have never
accounted to him. He has never asked
me to account to him for one cent in
this campaign.
Then SO far as any record is con-
ceTned, it is not in existence? 1t is not
in existence. No. sir.
1t would rest entirely upon memory?
Yes. sir, entirely upon memory.
Who are the occasional advisers, be-
sides Mr.. Dunbar and Mr.. Wilson?
There are no occasional advisers; IN
less you mean by occasional advisers,
those who come in and are asked Ques-
tons.
Who are they who occasionally are
asked questions and advice? Mr..
Christensen; Mr.. SOren Y. Christian
sen of Sanpete county; Mr. Byron Groo
is ore; Judge Elias Smith is one. I
have asked Mr.. Moses Thatcher ques-
tions, and George w. Thatcher l do
not know that 1 can recall any others
at this moment, but there are others
doubtless.
What is the position of Mr.. Sloan?
Oh, Sloan, L forgot him. Yes. add
Sloan.
He is not so unimportant an adviser
that his name should be overlooked is
he? That 1 forgot; but 1 do not mean
by that that he is unimportant at all.
Is It not true that Mr.. Sloan is Civ
ing his whole time to this campaign?
1 think that is largely true.
His undivided attention? Not en-
tirely, but nearly so.
NO MCUNE PALROLL.
Have you a payroll? 1 have not.
How do you pay these people who
are working for you? We do not pay
them salaries; I do not pay them.
You give them money occasionally?
For the performance of certain matters
which we desire them to do, for ex-
pense-
Is Fred Turner employed by you?
Not employed; he is here and is aid
ing us, but he is not employed by me.
Isn't there any understanding that
he is to receive anything at all for his
work Not the slightest; no.
He has been here three weeks
Perhaps he has been here three weeks
And the question of his services has
not arisen? No, sir.
Don't you expect to pay him? In all
probability we will ask him to accept
something for his time.
Do you remember the amount of
money which you have already paid
him? I have not paid him anything.
Do you know whether Mr.. McCune
has? I think not.
Is Mr. Monson in the employ? No,
sir.
What is his position? Mr.. Monson
NAV be taken in the list of occasional
advisers.
Have you mentioned all your occa-
sional advisers now? l think perhaps;
I am not sure. Any friend of Mr.. Nc
Cune or mine would be included; if
there was any particular question of
which he was informed.
Is not Mr.. Greenwood? Mr.. Green