The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01

other gentlemen who are striving for
that position? No; don't think
made a comparison or mentioned either
of the names.
Didn't you speak of Mr.. McCune in
that connection as a railroad man? No,
sir; don't think in that connection at
all.
You knew that this patent had refer
| ence to something that was used in
connection with railroads? 1 understood
that fully.
Didn't you say anything about Mr..
McCune being a railroad man? Not in
this conversation relating to the pat
ent at Washington.
In what conversation did You say
it? In the beginning of the conversa-
ton repeating Mr.. Bywater's CONVERSE
ton, where Mr.. McCune was known to
be connected with the railroads here,
and that thought that he would sug-
geSt that the master mechanic be
brought over.
You repeated Mr.. Bywater's CONVEX
sation? Yes.
At the very start of the business?
Yes.
What did he say? When l first re-
ferred TO the subject of the patent,
said, and this was brought uo-this is
what 1 started to say before, but you
diseonnect your subject SOL made the
remark in response to criticism of Mr..
LaDish made on Mr.. McCune, in refer
ence to influences being used to secure
Mr.. McCune's election, l said to him:
Mr.. Lapish, to show you how prudent
and careful we are in these matters,
one of the most honest, straightforward
members of the legislature came to me
the other day and suggested that l get
Mr.. McCune to send over for the mas
ter mechanic of the railroad in order
that he might come over and meet Mr..
LaDish and look over this invention,
good thing,"I said. Mr.. Lapish, there
might not have been any harm in that;
Mr.. McCune is connected with the rail-
roads-but if Mr.. McCune had done
that many people may have miscon-
strued it: it might have been subject
to a Wrong construction, and 1 never
carried it to Mr.. McCune, and l told
MIR. Bywater that 1 thought it impru-
dent and improper.
That was too public, in your idea
that way of doing was too public? 1
said it wasn't proper; that was my
judgment about it.
You mean by that it was too public?
No, sir: l mean that it would not be
proper.
Why wasn't it proper? Because it
might have been miSconstrued-that We
We're trying to influence MIR. Lapish by
interesting ourselves in his invention to
create a friendliness towards us and to-
wards Mr.. McCune.
WHY, then, did you discuss this inven-
Ton and the good influence that Mr. Nc
Cune could use if he was elected senator?
because the question came up in connec-
ton with Mr.. Lapishs talk afterwards
SEuut patent bending WASHINGTON.
asked him the question, what sort of a
patent it was, and other questions, and
he made some remark that / thought in
simulated that Mr.. McCune was kind of a
heightened fellow that wouldn't know a
poor constituent out here If man wrote
to him. l said: II have known Mr.. Nc
CUne all my life, and | assure you that
if Mr.. McCune is elected United States
senator that # you want anything at
tended to in Washington, or If any other
constituent wants attention given to any
and energetic in looking after his con-
stituents, whether poor or rich"
Yes; what else did you say to assure
him? That is ALL the only point that was
involved in that talk
What else did you assure him Mr.. Nc
cune would do if elected senator? Moth
ing.
That he would assist him in any way?
What? No, sir,
Not a word about his assistance? L
never HllIIldl6u 10 MT LdDlSn tNaI MI.
McCune would give him any financial or
helpful assistance other than a duty dis
charged in Washington
And also with the railroads? No, sir.
DID Mr., Iapish in that conversation,
say TO YOU that he didn't think Mr.. Nc
Cune a proper man for-or the best man
to be elected senator? | think he did say
something of that kind yes, sir.
What was your object in assuring Mr..
Lapish of the good offices of Mr.. McCune,
as you have stated, provided he was
elected senator, in behalf of this patent?
Mr.. Van Cott-We object to it, on the
ground that il is a rule when a witness
has once answered a question, that that
ought to be the Limit.
Argued by counsel.
objection withdrawn.)
That statement was called out by re-
mark by MIR Lapish insintlating that Mr..
McCune was one of those proud fellows
who, when he got to Washington would
not pay any attention to the letters of
poor constituents and then / assured him
that he was mistaken about it; that he
was a man who would not disregard any
letter or request that might come to him
in Washington from any constituent. no
matter how humble or how poor
When did you enter into this service of
Mr.. McCune, in this senatorial business?
Well. it was shortly after the opening of
the Headquarters that went out and
spent a little time each ray.
About how long after? Oh, well, 1
think | was in the headquarters. as a
1t was opened.
You and others are on a joint note with
Mr.. McCune, are you not, at McCornck's
bank? Yes, sir
Thereupon recess was taken until this
afternoon at 2:SO o'clock.