The San Francisco call., 1899-01-24

to the Senatorial question?
a. None whatever.
O., And did the Southern Pacific Rail
road Company take any part in the SEN
atorial question after election?
9. Did you promise Mr. de Young or
Mr.. Spreckels, or either of tAem, that you
would give them the support of the rail-
road for Senator?
A. / never did.
Q. Or you never endeavored to get that
support for either of them?
A. | have discussed that matter with
Mr.. de Young, and I felt friendly to Mr.
de Young; but, as say, the company
determined not to engage In any of these
fights for the Senatorship
q. Then the statement that you had
promised Mr.. de Young the support of the
railroad after the election was not true?
The chairman-Mr. Sanford 1 call your
is not a candidate before the Legislature
at this time, and it seems to me that we
would be going out into the unKnown
anime concerning Mr.. de Young or any
man that might in the future be before
us as a candidate. He is certainly not as
Mr.. Sanford-It might have. something
to do with Senatorial methods: Mr. de
Young might have been a candidate for
a while, and if the railroad did not take
any part in the campaign oefore the cleo
ton of course it is not necessary that
tney took no part in the campaign after
The chairman-I think we must confine
you to the candidates who are before the
legislature, ! do not mean to shut off
Mr.. Sanford If he has any other queS-
tons / simDly want to confine the inves-
tigauon to lines that are proper, because
we will have all to do that we can, with
proper examination.
Mr.. Melfck-Once upon a time you had
an interview with Mr.. Spreckels and Mr..
de Young with reference to the Senator
A. / believe I did; yes, sir
@. Now, then, you were advocating Col
onel Burns, weren't you?
A. No, sir. The reference to Colonel
Burns in that interview came about in
this way: That in the interview both
those gentlemen expressed hostility or un-
friendliness to Mr.. de Young.
@. TO Mr.. de Young?
A. l meant to Mr.. Burns, and his name
was mentioned as one of the men that
should be consulted concerning the Sen
atorship or any other party matter.
O. Are you through?
A. 1 think l have answered your Ques-
Q. Now. then, you have been advocating
Colonel Burns; was this at the sugges-
tion of c. P. Huntington or Mr.. Hub
bard?
A. did not advocate Colonel Burns. In
that interview, as 1 say, we were discuss
ing the advisability of trying to agree
upon some man for the Senate. ] sug-
gested to these gentlemen that we three
people could not make Senator-could
not agree upon Senator; that there were
into Consideration And to that Mr.. de
Young replied that I'VE" meaning him
self and Mr.. Spreckels. represent public
opinion. We publish the leading Repub-
lican newspapers. and we have got right
to have a controlling voice. And I sug-
gested that among the others to be con-
suited would be Colonel Burns; and his
name was mentioned and | think other
names. And they both said they would
not consult him; did not propose to
reckon with him" 1 think that was the
expression Mr.. de Young used, and when
/ saw the opposition to Mr. de Young
Q. You mean Colonel Burns?
A. Yes; to Colonel Burns. l expressed
friendly feeling for the colonel; said 1
thought he was very good man and
he had a right to his place in Republican
politics.
getting at is this: Did G. P. Huntington
or Mr.. Hubbard suggest in any shape or
form to you the advocating of Colonel
Burns for United States Senator?
A. No, sir.
The chairman-Any further questions of
this witness? If not. he will be excused
Mr.. Herrin, you are excused.