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SENATORS TALK
ON SITUATION.
They Discuss the Probable Effect
Of the Conflict on Treaty.
OPPONENTS STAND SOLID.
ton -Gormsn say. u VIII
Have No EHsct.

Washington. Feb. 5-What effect will
the conflict at Manila nave upon the
treaty. was one Of the topics discussed
here today. Many senators were seen.
and the Views they expressed follow.
LODGE INDoRsEs DEWEY
senator Lodge OF Massachusetts,. n
member OF the committee on foreign
relations, said. ION the proposition
presented. am In favor Of standing
BY Dewey ana Otis 40 against ATuinni-
do. our status In the Philippines IL
that under the protocol we are In pos
session OF the citv. bay and hnrhor OF
Manila. We ATE acting under a truce
with spain. These people who have
attacked the United states forces are.
IN the eve OF international Law, Htili
subjects OF Spain. and would " until
the treaty u ratified. The have VIC.
lated the truce and are Gun puiaic on
cmiea and should be treated ah such.
III was known week ago that
Agoncillo. the representative Of Agul-
naldo In Washington. was ready to
pack up and gct away. giving up ev-
etythinR. hut the action % those who
have opposed the treaty and the asaur.
nnccs he has received from some one.
resulted IN his remaining, and the en-
couragcmcnt which the f'ilipinos have
received from the United States has.
no doubt, led 20 the attack upon the
American forces"
GoRMAN on THE SUBJECT.
senator Gorman of Maryland. who
u the leader and organizer OF the OPP
position 10 the treaty In the senate.
said. NJ 10 tho effect the conflict nj
Manila would have upon the treaty.
IT viii have no effect whatever. What
has occurred II the result % what has
been predicted by the opponents OF the
treaty all the timc. The opponents %
the treaty said that trouble would
come " we handled those people with
out gloves and undertook 20 force our
selves upOn them without their con-
sent. This battle can have no effect
upon the opponents of the treaty In
any way"
PETTidREws SOLUTION.
Senator P.ttlgrcw said. we could
have no possible difficulty with the
p,opl. ~ the Philippines n We had
given them the honest assurance that
We did not propose TO overthrow their
newly -cstablished libcrticn. Instead.
we made a treaty with spain by which
the country was cedod TO Us. and We
began at once TO occupy n with troops
and send achievements. which was
sufficient To cause alarm. The dispatch
Of several thousand more regularn
lately Of course created much nppr--
the Philippine republic.
I'VE should do now what we should
have done In the first place, state TO
the people OF those Islands our good
Intentions and say IN them. establish
your republic and we VIII not allow
other nations to interfere. Give us
your bonds to reimburse Us for our
expense In securing You your liberty.
w welcome you to the family Of tho
republics OF the world. The course OF
the administration. on the contrary.
has been one Of criminal aggression
and apparent bad faith. There can be-
no question In the minds % any one
who has read the instructions 10 the
peace commissioners that the prcEi.
dents course niwaya was to make a
permanent claim to the island Of Luz
gon. To turn upon nm ally 81 this way
II certainly the greatest International
crime OF the century. believe the
treaty should be amended AZ once 80
M TO give assurance 10 these people OF
our rood faith and thus make them
our friends even under thea. trying
circumstance We should even now
withdraw Our military forces ana al
low them 10 establish n military gov
eminent OF their own"
Senator pettigrcw said that. In his
opinion. the flRhtlng wouiu not delay
vote on the treaty. The opponents
~ the treaty. he said. had counted
thirty-threo votes na opposed TO rati-
flcntlon. hut had lost one OF them, and
he could not say whether the latest
news would cause any other changes.
ENOUGH VOTES TO RATIFY.
Senator Iilklns. who has been very
active In favor OF the treaty, expressed
the opinion tonight that enough votes
would be found 10 ratlfy II. This
morning. he raid. he did not SEQ where
they were TO com. from, but he has
had Information since. indicating that
one or two wavefing senators would
IND In the conflict which has occurred
at Manila, an excuse 60 vote for the
treaty. Senator ElkinA said that the
position u AgulnRido was perhaps log
teal until the treaty was ratified. as
spain had gotten out and the United
states did not take possession, no
Agulnaldo says; II am here and win
take possession" The senator added
that the only thing 20 do was TO rntlfy
the treaty 50 NJ to definitely fix the
status ~ the Philippine islands.
Senator Martin OF Virginia. who Il
one ~ the opponents OF the treaty.
said THE news from Manila will not
have any eject ON the treaty. No man
Will change hls mind on this account.
j, cannot affect the status In the SEN
ate
TELLER ~ DEI.LIcosE.
Senator Teller. who has from the
nrst been q staunch supporter OF the
treaty said; our army " In Manila
By right ~ conquest and under the
laws Of war. We are justified In main
tanning our position there against all
who may attack us. ! have been UNI
easy IN regard 10 the situation ever
.ince ! saw that Agulnaido had been
authorized by his Ho-called congress
90 declare war upon the United States.
There was never any danger OF the
United states making an attack upon
the flllpinos, but there has been dan
ger from the outset that they. not
knowing the conditions here and la
boring under excitement, would make
AN assault upon our forces But under
the circumstances. the government has
been powerless 10 do anything TO pre-.
vent the present serious elimination
OF AFFAIRS la Manila. Under the laws
of nations, the Philippine people are
citisena ~ spain, and. OF course, there
n nothing 10 do but fight them until
they surrender and bring them 90 a
sense OF their position. II " impossl-
BILE now for our government TO with
draw, II Il has not troops enough 10
aubdue the insurgents we must send
enough, The occurrence will not pre-
vent our doing Justice by the Filiplnos
IN the end, hut Il certainly postpones
the establishment Of government
there for the present.
II think II most unfortunate that the
pence treaty was not ratified the first
week after u came to the Senate.
don't suppose that the Islanders have
read tho supechea which hnNe heap