The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1899-10-26
rhe Spirit Of Unrest has Reached
the House Of Com.
mons.
HARCOURT AND CHAMBERLAIN
Stand Right Up in Meeting
and Say Exactly What
They Think.


a lively scene In the house between Ca
vim Brown Clark. Radical member for
caithness, ex-agent Of the Transvaal,
and Major Rasch. Conservative men-
Der OF the southeast division Of Essex.
Mr. Clark denied Major Rasch,s state
ment that he (clarl) was m the Boer
camp at the time OF the hght at Ma1uba
Hin and characterized the assertion as
sample of the MISREPRESENTATION
now prevailing"
Major Rasch promptly retorted that
his statement was made on the authori-
ty Of Mr.. Clark himself, who told him
50 six years ago. adding that If Mr.
Clark again denied the statement he,
the major, would take the first oppor-
tunity Of repeating the statement to
him outside Of parliament when he
could take what step he liked.
Sir William Vernon Harcourt, the
former Liberal leader I'm the house.said
he desired to again call attention to the
provocation of the secretary Of state
for the colonies tllT. chamberlln), dur
ing the negotiations and in his speech
at Highbury.
Mr.. Chamberlain replied, repudiatlng
the intention to be provocative, and
saying he only intended to be plain and
free from ambiguity. He added that he
only followed in the negotiations the
principles observed by all statesmen
during the past ten or twenty years!
There was time, he explained, when
diplomacy was regarded as given to
statesmen to enable them to conceal
their thoughts. That might fairly be
called the 'old diplomacy" which, he
said, 'I absolutely and entirely repu-
date"
People" he continued. "are entitled
to demand clear expression Of Views
and he asserted there never was the
slightest litigation for the statemens
that PresIaent Kruger had been in
doubt"
Mr.. Chamberlain then said: "our OBJ
3ect, methods and determination were
to carry out these objects. 1t was nee
essary to Impress upon President Kru-
ger the seriousness of the step he was
called upon to take and the conse-
quences which would follow any mis-
take on his part. 1t was not desirable
to include in an official dispatch collat-
eral suggestions and indications Of
opinion, but semi official warnings was
frequently conveyed in a speech. A
similar warning was given by lord
Salisbury to the sultan at the Guild
Hail banquet, and am stlll absolutely
unrepentant."
Respecting to-day's speeches, they
are simply Rechauffoe Of old argu-
Inents from Irish members. whose boast
is that they are England's enemIes,and
from the Radicals, who, in principle op-
pose the war. Regarding Mr. DayItt,
Mr.. Chamberlain said he recognized
that that he had hitherto discussed the
matter moderately and sincerely,
"and," he added, II would pay the
grentest attention to his arguments II
/ did not know he would use precisely
the same arguments in regard to any
British war which are based on his en-
nifty to England"
Mr.. Chamberlain then said: What
would have been the Irish argument in
the Spanish american war in which
Spain showed herself Infinitely less
capable of defending herself than the
Transvnal-"
Here william Redmond, Parnelllte
member for East Glare, shouted: "The
rransvaal did not blow up your war
ships"
Mr.. Chamberlain continued: 1.-THE
great. almost determining contest be-
tween the United States and Spain was
fought without the loss of a single
American. We have never denied that
the TransvaRl was foeman worthy Of
our steel. Not only was THE disparity
between the forces in the Spanish
American war rs great as those now
engaged, but the contention Of the
United States and their right Of inter-
ference arose from the fact that at
some distance from their territories
there was oppression. not of American
citizens, but Of another race, and peo-
pie and that Justified the Intervention
of the United States in the mind of the
civilized world. or, at any rate, in the
eyes of EnEllshment and 1rishmen. But
we are Interfering in behalf OF our own
people. 1t is perfectly certain that Mr.,
Davltt, but for his hatred OF England
would synpathiEe with Us as he did
with America"
Mr.. Chamberlain then replied to tho
criticism Of his not accepting the media
tIon Of Mr.. HofmeYer. the Atrikander
leader, pointing out that while he be-
llcved Mr.. Hofmeyer was sincere. vet
ne could not forget when President
Kruger made absolutely lllusory pro-
posals for n settlement" Mr., Hofmeyer
was perfectly ready 10 accept them.
President Kruger mlslcd Mr., Hofmycer
in promising him proposals which dIf-
fercd materially from those he really
presented.
''rhcre has bcon on the part Of the
TransvOal croockednCss altogether in
comprehensive IL they desired settle
mcnt," continued Mr.. Chamberlain. "I
believe that from first to last President