Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1899-10-28

0ERoUs
here referred 10 tho enormous pop
ula Iui Of China ana the KIN of the
Ctiucae ln manufacturing and thelr
use 81 modern machinery, ana asked hts
cxcclloncy whether he ala not think the
day would come when the factories u
China would flood the markets with all
kinds OF goods and materially iniufe
she luboriug classes Of the rest OF the
world He replied.
~ think not We chinese are hard
workers and money mnkcrr. but we are
also money apcndor8 The reason why
we live 20 choupi refer 10 the lower
clnraea-ir because we have 10 DO o..
II we ever become the great munufnc-
turing nutlon that you predict. and I
think wc viii. u viii be- 10 manufacture
goods Tor ourselves A. we make
more money our wants will lncrcaee.
We Will spend more wages will $40 up.
ana you viii nnd that your big mar
kct b. on the other side Of the world
ana not here.
You must remember aiso." the min
lster continued. that We have an cnur-
NOUS population. We urc numbered
by the hundreds ~ millions. and hlg
hudlcH tuVe slowly The Chinese nrs
especially conservative. They do not
change quickly. and ID viii be N long
tine before such q condition nH you un-
"imt hos not china changed since
90 var with inpanY"
Yes somewhat Co.," was the reply.
You can tro 20 whom you gu back
ca ii. Tile people are beginning 90 rr1i-
lze the enormous mnrkCti nnd tlelr pos
nlhillucr outside their own county.
They are changing moro nt The seA-
urrlf. The government Appreciated the
situation better than 10 has ever done
| aud ! lo1h for more rapid changes In
the future
a WORD ABOUT THE EMPEROR
How about the emperor. Does he
realize the extent Of the world outside
of ChinuG'
Yes" replied the chinese minister
| "Hc ~ well posted upon foreign affairs
uht knows great deal about this
country ana Europe. ! nave met him
| o. number OF times and he always asks
| many questions 49, 20 foreign nna'fH.
| lie o. very Intelligent but has never
been strong and Is father delicate than
| otherwise"
what il ~ Hung chang dolngg
| III Hung CHANG ~ living IN pckInF. d"
| said the minister. "Ho has the office OF
| grand Hecretufiat, and NJ such be- holds
q very high place I'm the government.
He IL very clnao 60 tho empress dowa-
! ger. and u often consulted ur 90 for
oigu annifa by the emperor and bis cab.
lnet. ~ Hung chang d man OF won-
dcrful ability. ana Dc viii always BE- one
OF much influence"
CHINA AND JAPAN WILL NOT
COMBINE
what are ChIua'a relations with ia
| pan go pruaentT'
They are very friendly" replied the
minister.
But is there any possibility 81 q un-
Ion between the japanese and Chinese
Japan has about 10000 900 people nud
china has about i00.OO0OOn u you could
combine. organize and arm these go
100000 you might b. q serious menace Ca
the rest OF tho world"
u have heard that possibility men.
toned before" replied the minister. 1T
q hardly q possibility when you know
the Chinese. our people are not natur-
ally a c0nquering nation. We are not
greedy Tor territory ana wc have nj
ambition TO enter into wars ~ conquest
We are naturally peaceful and be-
licvc that our progress IL tu b. along M.
lines of peace. I believe the day viii
come whom we will be- a power among
the nations. hut IL viii be an Industrial
social and financial power. not a. a mil
itary one. 7 don't mean That we Will
not be- able 10 defend ourselves, Tor
think that We can hold our own against
the world. What do mean is that such
| wars na We have viii be defensive
rather than offensive"
In closing I asked the minister foi
photographs or himself and his legation
aud he very kindly gave me those which
are used In the Illustration Of this let
ter. The two pictures ~ the legation
We're made by the minister himself viii
n small snup-1hut camera, and the pho
t0grnph OF the minister was taken Will
tho same camera by one of his secrc'
iarics. .
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