New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-18

Q-You gave II thought; but as soon as ssg Jba
to bend to Commissioner Sexton? A.-Not to COM
"i o'~Rmt TO the Commissioners? A.To the Com
missioners ~. ..,,a mas
S HS SIR r"e transfer V' ''''''' .u...,.r Of
Odd you know 1t was upon the transfer o'
Captain Herlihy? A.-No sir
DID NOT LOOK INTO THE MERITS
Odd YOU know what It was about? A.-No' SIT
Odd YOU know which was right? Dio you
know whether II was McCullagh or Commiss'one,
Sexton that was right? A.-only what "e"'1
I'D Odd you know at that time which was right
A.-No. sir. did not: .,,, oro, A-No sir; only
Odd you not talk 10 any ohe' "a '''
Q-But you said you had given yenr no Spppointment
Did know whether S Of not MtecSasn to
wrong thing when you were app9ihnt sard a here
was ali new matter to you then wss IN the paper
No: oh no There several artcies III '"' pup
about II trow But there was no reference to Nc
Council in the paper. was there' '
oSnd there were articles about nnainfed
Odd YOU read any before you were app ,o nd
Al read about the removal OF MI i'"''''
YES Of course but am asking a DS Come nme
"s Sexton DO you know whether or nG o
Sexton was endeavoring to get M nS..her McCui.
something wtOne Ia do something wrong? Did you
know anything about the rights OF the qo''''
o-Well which right. in your Jgdgmlf fh due ne
t6@t %e; 70 he hnk ought make as
sgnments and transfers at their requ on were yot-
Odd you think so at the time 20" "e''
Odd think so because S yoq T know so"t was
be Commissioner? Al oioh N'0"
going TO be Commissioned cor,,,,ss,oner. in
eOoBut at the time you were ComiilisSsoh nv the
n nh t tba Won would be Commissioner. ana
thousn , LA want some transfers and assignments
made? A-No. not at all
HE FEARED FOR HIMSELF
o-Rut the main reason in your mind the reason
,het Won mentioned first was. that from the "e"'
papers you had discovered that iiain'.o.
philips were removed because they wouio no' eo
sem, 70 remove McCullagh? A.-That Is my KNOWN
edge Of IL. 1000, ,,,ght not share their
,ose yom did what the Mayor wanted you 10 oo'
Ale didn't ask me TO 90 IL; i had an i'm
that lasted long enough for you
to actY yo realize and recollect that the nrst act
that you did was the remoVaI Vi MI AVN
d von Know at that whether he was 5s
Republican or Democrat! Al ''0"
oIf Mr. Hess didn't know What MeT nerfeety
pon.es ha,Ieve that McCullagh didn't know i Ie
politics OF his inspectors ann cap hirsef on the
said he didn't know their poi'ics' "'''
0You knew that couldn't hSia XoIi YOU to
az throi,eh the papers? Al didn't know ina, ,mad I,
~ oMYon believed it, didn't you? Al oeheVeu IT,
'eo-wbat was the salary that you expected 10
gel? Alive thousand dollars - Yes
Q-were You in business at the !im hs,ne A,'
ON what business? 49, ass now are YOU
Q-You are in the cigar business now NV 'O'
ut 1Se ssary or
Commissioner? A.--No. j have not, 90 live on. Is
O'~You we're not making enough u "'' 0''
that true rue von needed that 5000 year to live onY
AYES.
MAYORS CHOICE INDICATED
o-And in order to get that 5000 to live on you
consented TO 80 into that arrangement as re
publican Of the bipartisan Board to carry ou' VIZ
"owHat was there 70 compel YOU as an y,hen
lean citizen int to ,RRs st ot GU.i@r "'O"'D
you pr we Gsu niiV moment Is that proper
qu TSo iIhajrmpn@l think the witness misnhder
stood what Mr. Moss referred TO-
dBnt' Mr. Hess, when you learned %hat tTe
Mayor wanted were not 'h men n ne what
| he wanted you were not an official We're !o"' ~
40 Was there ANYTHING to compel you to become me
an official 20 in there and perform ,b aT ANYTHING
CAPTIVATING public servant Mas TO do that
| ,ping9 a There was nothing to compel me ma,
QoNothing to compel YOU eXf Hsin yee and You
w nabins $3.50 A.~That is it, ,,ooo war;
wa VS. n entirely that you wanted $JVo yeut
W., on were Wiling to go in there and carry out
The wishes of the Mayor? A-Nol exS' Ene ~ the
| O.-That is one of the reasons a. O"e - ~"
oEyen though it led to the removal Sd nnd
~ police against whom there WAS no cnarES s a' "
no suspicion Of corruption or inehciehcy' i""' -
So isn nd ~ yon never heard Of any serious charge
made against Nj McCullagh while he was cn'ei
Of police? A-Neyer xo,or
3YYrond never heard mis- integrity or his EN-
cheney questioned ala you? A 40. r man who had
carried all he burden and al the LABOR ihe
the 9Ge OF d GhSt OF boroushs into cons@nda
lion and in starting out new police iorce' "'u"
You And YOU knew Of his being an efficient ana an
honest man and man Who had ~e wosn.t he en-
, III 70 remain there? Al think the'e WERE
other people on the force Va was
lie was doing his work we'll you r Say t Hmd
he had already done the 1aSor % 1I9n't View it
force force TO r 60 on n, Win all "S "0'"'
HAS NOTHING AGAINST MCULLAGH'
n Have YOU ANYTHING against McCuagh? A
owhen did you find on, that At M &C., was
d RePHsn'1H" He told me that after he was out
@ 6Ghs wh afse c Ti 0 of Police that his
tisanshlp so prom1n nshe, he was Republican
psmoe re t' is that So? Al don't hnSw I'm,
| 0-And he had administered nlS
Q,,a1u "a 90 freely of politics that you. prom
nent bubble man didn't know his politics. is 'h'''
| 20 You have held official positions for years.
| Ayes. o,,,nants and various
| Q-Under various appointments anu '"'''
yo, have been an oficehoder for the greater
~ - vour mature life haven't your A-ftxss;;
pan1' a YOU nave made your living IN politics
haven't YOU from the salaries OF your
Is omBut your business has not been able 10 sup
port YOU? A.That Is true lS Ves sir
| srba &c mix A
S-When did you first hear that you were F gE,n
| 10 be a Police Commissioner? Am the r'''"'
o"Who told you Al received telephone
| that the Mayor wanted 10 see me- -. oo.,,rdo,
| 'ii 1 I'D Won 90 right there? Al went SATURDAY
0-You didn't go there Friday o Ao hon, II he.
| 0-Ddn't anybody else speak to you ABOUT II pe-
| fore YOU saw the Mayor? Ago
| Q-Besdes the Mayor? A-No'v
| DID anybody else speak to you before you