The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1899-10-26
DEBATE MORE HEATED
ACRIMONIOUS EXCHANGES IN THE
HOUSE of COMMONS NOW OF
DAILY OCCURRENCE
MR.. DAvITT is TO RESIGN
Says His Action Is Intended as
Rebuke to the War in the Trans
vaaI, While Opposition Asserts
That Mr.. Davitt Is Making a Cir
Gus Play. Having Intended to Re-
tire Before War Trouble Began.

Gus Play, Having Intended to Re-
tire Before War Trouble Began.
LONDON, Oct 25-Michael Davitt.
irish Nationalist member for South
MAYO, announced in the house of COM
mons, today that he would resign tomor-
row, as protest against the Boer war.
Mr. Davitt's resignation was something
of & coup de theatre, as the Pail Mall
Gazette says that some sine ago he told
his intimate friends that nc would take
the first opportunity Of retiring from
parliament 1t is understood that Mr.
Davitt will return to ireland and de-
vote himself to literary and journalistic
work
The pugnacious spirit an:mating the
public has reached the Legislators. Apart
from. the diversion created by Mr.. Davitt,
there was lively scene in the house to-
day between Gavin Brown Clark Radical
member for Caithness, ex-agent of the
Transvaal, and Mai Rasch, Conserva
tive member for the southeast division
of Essex Mr. Clark denied Maj. Rasch's
statement that he Clark was in the
Beer camp at the time of the fight at
Maiuba HILL and characterized the as
sertion as a Sample of the misrepre-
sentation now prevailing"
Maj Rasch promptly retorted thai his
statement was made on the authority of
Nj. Clark himself, who told him so six
years ago. adding that if Mr.. Clark again
denied the statement he (the major
would take the first opport unity of re
peatlng the statement 20 him outside of
parliament, when he could take what
steps he liked
Sir William Vernon Harcourt, the for
mer Liberal leader OF the house, said he
desired to again call attention to the
proyocation of the secretary of state for
1.-The colonies tMr Chamberlain during The
regotiatiors and in his speech at High
bury.
MR.. CHAMBERLAIN DEFENDED.
Mr. Chamberlain replied, regulating
the intention TO be provocative, and say
ing he only intended to be plain and free
from ambiguity He added that he only
followed in the negotiations the pc1ncl-
pies observed by all statesmen during the
past ten or twenty years There was
time he explained, when diplomacy was
regarded as given to statesmen to en-
able them to cheat their thoughts. That
might be fairly called the old diploma
CIV which he said, Il absolutely and
entirely repudiate. People, he contln-
ued, are entitled to demand clear eX-]
D essio asofsss Jews, and he asserted there
never was the slightest justification Tor
the statement that President Kruger mad
been in doubtsG sMr. Chamberlain then
said:
..Our object, determination and inten-
ton were TO carry out these objects. 1t
was necessary to impress upon President
Kruger The seriousness Of the step he
was called upon to take, and the conse-
quences when would follow any mistake
on his part. 1t was not desirable to IN
clude in an official dispatch collateral
suggestions and indications of opinion,
but se1ni-official warning was frequently
conveyed in a speech. a similar warning
was given by Lord Salisbury to the sui
tan at the Guildhall banquet, and am
still absolutely unrepentant.
Regarding Mr. Davitt, MIR: Chamberlain
said ne recognized that he had hitler
to discussed the matter moderately and
sincerely, and he added, Il would pay
The greatest attention to his arguments II
did not know he would Use precisely the
same arguments in regard TO any Brit
10 England.
AMERICAS 5AETION CITED.
Mr. Chamberlain .shen said:
What would have been the Irish argu-
ment in the Spanish-Anlerican war, in
which Spain showed herself infinitely less
capable of defending herself than the
Traf.svaal--
Here William Redmond, Parnellite
To c1,o1 nj
THE Transvaal did not blow up your
warships.'
Mr. Chamberlain continued:
1.-The great, almost determining contest
between the United States and Spain was
fought without the loss of a single Amerl-
can. We have never denied that the
Tr&nsvaal was a foeinan worthy of our
steel. Not only IS the disparity between
the forces in the Spanish-Ameriean war
as great as those now engaged, but the
contention of the United States and their
right of interference arose from the fact
that at some distance from their terri
tories there was oppression, not of Ameri-
man citizens but of another race and
people and that justified the Intervention
of the United States in the mind of the
civilized world, or at any rate, IN the
eyes of EngIishnlen and Irishmen. But
we are interfering in behalf Of our own
people. 1t Is perfectly CeTtdlH THAT MI
Davitt, but for his hatred of England,
would sympa thizc with Us as he did with
America "
Mr. Chamberlain then replied to the
criticism of his not accepting the media
ton of Mr. Hofmeier. the Afrikander
leader. pointing out that while he be-
lieved Mr.. Hofmeier was sincere. yet he
could not forget when President Kruger
made absolutely illusory proposals for a
-
ready TO accept them. President Kruger
misied Mr. Hofmeier in promising him
forms which differed in great measure
from those he really introduced.
KRUGER INSINCERE
'"There was no need of crookedness II
they really desired a settlement con-
tinued Mr.. Chamberlain. Il believe that
from beginning to last, President Kruger
never intended giving anything in justice
to the white race. nor to make acknowl-
edgment of British supremacy. War,
therefore, was inevitable. We are called
upon to bring the war 20 quick conclu-
sion and send across the sea force
sucl, as no nation in history ever before
sent This is entirely due to the prepara-
tiops which made the Transvaal an arm
ed camp, and which not only secured Ii a
defensive position. but also enables 1t 70
take the offensive against the large force
now engaged. Such a thing could not be
continued forever We would have need
ed a permanent force of 200000 In SFlth
Africa We are told We shall lose Youth
Africa Our foreign friends are convinced
of It,. Yet they are not happy. Such pre-
dictions were made before. and were even
current in the DAYS of Elizabeth. But
am not alarmed One great Teutonic pee-
pie cannot hold in subsection another
great Teutanic peonle, but this has never
bee.l our purpose 1t Is Impossible to pre-
tend that the Dutch at the Cape are