The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01
yourself against a man Of means? Yes,

Why, ne simply SAID his connection
with railroads and the connection he
would nave with railroads if he was
! elected.
His influence. you understood? Yes.
| Not his money. but his influence? He
didn't state which.
His reply to the further sentence i'm
| piled influence? Yes.
| II he wasn't elected he couldn't? Yes
You understood from that che could
not that he must relate solely to in
| fluence? That was the expression that
Mr. Dunbar used.
| Why did you understand by the ex-
preston that he could not, did that i'm
/ ply TO you that it only meant infiuence2
No; I understood it TO mean that he
wouldn't-that is what understood the
expression could not mean.
| You said could not? Yes. sir.
He would have had just as much
| financial means without being senator
as he would with it? 1 think so; he
would have sufficient financial means
to do 1t if he felt so disposed.
But there was something about the
senatorial position by which he could
help you, and if he didn't have it he
could not. that was the way he ex-
pressed the situation? That was the
language Of Mr.. Dunbar.
That could be nothing but inference?
I understood that he would feel friend
~ II voted for him, and that if 1 did
not he would not.
That is so with all the candidates,
isn't it? Yes.
Yes, they would feel friendly if Won
voted for them? Yes.
And they don't feel so friendly if you
don't vote for them? No.
Judge Powers here Gays he is your
friend because you vote for him? Yes,
sir
If you had not been voting for him
[ wouldn't ask him to act as my attor-
ney.
You have the same views in regard
to McCure as to Powers, if you had
been voting for him. making speeches
for him, you would expert McCune to
be friendly? If l had commenced vot-
ing for Mr.. McCune at that time, I
would have felt that he was more or
less under promise to assist me.
POWERS FRIENDSHIP.
Yes, you think he should be friendly,
too? Yes.
Do you regard that friendship on
Powers part as anything improper?
The friendship that L have manifested
Powers. IN supporting him. wasn't
from any selfish motive? No.
No L understand that was entirely
unselfish, hn. was his selfish or was
his friendship selfish, too? Judge
Powers?
Yes. Possible is a little selfish.
You see nothing wrong about his be-
ing friendly to you? No. sir.
And if you had been being friendly
to Mr.. McCune, you would see nothing
wrong about his friendship? Certainly
not.
And there was no hint or suggestion
from Mr.. Dunbar that he would pay
you any money if you voted for Nc
Cune? Only that he said he would be
able to assist me in prosecuting my in
ventiOn.
But that kind of assistance he could
not give if he was not senator. that was
the only kind OF assistance? He didn't
state what kind.
But in your imagination. some time
you have imagined what meant money,
did you? Yes. sir.
When did you first conceive that in
your mind? Right at the time that he
mentioned it.
Right at the time that he mentioned
it? Right then and there.
Why didn't you say to him. I don't
think that is right for you to make that
sort of a suggestion to me-? made the
statement to him that if my invention
had any merit in it 1 would make some
thing out of it. and if it didn't I
wouldn't make anything out of the in
ventiOn itself.
w HS uAil yOu lAA4lL ~ MN that yOu
thought that was a pecuniary offer to
you and improper? 1 thought that I
had done so.
You regard that remark a hint. do
you? Yes, sir.
How long has your patent been pend
ing? The application was sent in just
before / came up here to Salt Lake.
Were you saying anything about
when you expected it to be issued? No,
sir
Did you say anything about whether
the proceedings in the patent office were
slow or fast? No. sir.
About the dilatory manner of getting
patents through? No. sir.
Didn't Mr. Dunbar say anything
about that? Nothing of that kind was
mentioned.
Now, Mr. Lapish. isn't it true that
you complained of the dilatOry action
of the department? 1 don't remember.
And didn't he reply that if McCune
should be senator, he would use his
influence to hurry it? I don't remem-
Der any such conversation.
Didn't he say that if McCune was
elected, he could look after the inter
ests of a poor man like Yourself is
well as rich man? No. sir: L don't
remember that language at all.
Did he say anything about the let
tiers from YOU not being pigeonholed?
No. sir; ] don't remember any such
statement.
Didn't he use the expression pigeon-
holed? No. sir; don't remember it.
Won't you repeat again the express
sion that he used about the assistance
just repeat that again? Yes. sir; [
Will repeat it again. He said that Mr..
McCune had told him that if he was
elected United States senator he would
be glad to assist Mr.. Lapish in prose-
cutting his invention.
In prosecuting his invention? Yes,
sir.
Prosecuting his invention meant pro-
curing the patent in the Office-you so
understood it? No. l did not.
You did not understand prosecuting
his invention meant that? No. sir
What did YOU understand-that was
the conversation he used? Yes, that
was the conversation he used.
WHAT HE IMAGINED.
What did you understand the words.
prosecuting his invention, meant?
would have to repeat the rest of the
sentence.
Well? understood that I would re-
ceive pecuniaTy assistance from Mr..
McCune to- prosecute this invention.
To prorsecute the invention? Yes.
You used the same conversation
again; by prosecuting it. you meant
getting it through the patent Officer
And realize upon it from the railroad
companies.
You had paid all the money neces-
'sary to get the patent through the pat
ent office, hadn't you? If l didn't, my
partner was going to.
Well. you had paid up the fees? Yes,
sir.
And you had hired your patent law
yer, hadn't you? Yes sir.
And all that had been paid? Yes.
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