The times., 1899-04-14

was admitted. Mr.. Kemble identified 1t,
and declared that the writing in 1t was
done by John s. Hopkins. Next Mr.. Roth
ermel picked up another book. which was
at once recognized as the famous red
book and again approached the witness.
Before he had time to ask question, how
eever, Mr.. Kemble forestalled the expected
interrogation by saying:
II never saw that book
MIR. ROthermeI Objects.
Immediately Messrs. Shields and Shap-
ley were on their feet, contending that the
witness answer should be placed on the
record. Mr.. Rothermel, on the other hand,
coatended that the remark was not evil
dence, and that he had asked no question.
After considerable argument the judge
sustained Mr.. Rothermel in his contention.
Testify as TO whether the handwriting
on those pages is the handwriting OF John
S. Hopkins. said Mr.. Rotherme;.
Il do not recognize those entries as be-
ing in the handwriting OF John S. Hop
kins.''
State what ones you do recognize as be-
ing in his handwriting"
The figures are in John S. Hopkins
handwriting"
Cross examined by Mr.. Shields. Mr..
Kemble's evidence on the famous red
book came down to this: That OF the
twelve pages shown him he could swear
the figures were written by Mr.. Hopkins,
and the Inscriptions or memoranda were
not in Mr.. Hopkins handwriting.
is that all you can say?"
There are memoranda here which are
not in his handwriting"
After some further questions as to the
minute book, Mr.. Kemble was excused.
The district attorney then offered the min
utes relating to the 100000 deposited by
Benjamin Haywood State Treasurer, and
the record that it was made in pursuance
of a letter to be written by the defendant.
Attorney Watson pleaded strongly against
the admission as evidence Of the minute in
question, but Judge Biddle decided that
the minute seemed to him to be partial
evidence of conspiracy and ordered that
it be admitted. The entry read:
The only offer for loans before the
board was note of Senator Arthur Ken
nedy and r. r. Quay. indorsed by NJ. S.
Quay for 100000. with the stock attach
ed. 1t was agreed to make the loan pro-
vided that Il. R. Quay comply with the
presidents request for certain letter.
JOHN S. HOPKINS. Secretary
"On the side" concluded Mr. Rothermel,
is written 'Quay's loan 800 NJ"
Niillan II. Hagan, handwriting expert,
was put on the stand. After some minor
questions the "red book was offered to
him. Mr.. Shapley objected that the hook
had not been offered in evidence.
Mr.. Rothermel said he could not offer
it until he had proved the handwriting to
be that of John S. Hopkins He had proved
portion Of the entries by one witness
and now called the witness to prove other
entries. He was asked to compare the
writing in the red book with the minute
book. At this point Mr.. Shields made the
objection which had been expected from
him all along and he declared that the
District Attorney had not stuck to the law
and that even if he had it would be far
better to prove the writing by sfme of the
clerks who knew Hopkins when he was
alive, The judge. however. differed from
Mr.. Shields and Mr.. Hagan then continued
his testimony TO the effect that the hand
writing was the same.
At $40 when the court adjourned Expert
Hagan was still on the stand.