New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-25

A.-Thomas or James.
Ssa So hnoS one s,. at ,0,vs
Is Thomas.
o.Do you know him? Al know him to speak
Q.-Have you spoken to him? A.-whenever I
Odd you speak to him along in the end of
February, 1907 Al don't remember.
and ne talk With 10 yHu about hat No
sir Talk about what?
9..,Anythins' A.Iwell. i believe we were re;
don't know the exact date OF that.
sergeants' association? A.-Not a word.
A.-Now. that is candid about that levy? A
The IS the first ~" you have heard
Of such levy? A-Only what read in the papers
Mr. Clarke-All right sergeant You never saw
You might have seen Mr.. Moss. but you had no
conversation with anybody connected with this
committee before you came on the stand? A.-No
ON any shape manner or form? A-No, sir
This is the first time 1 have Mr.. Moss.
DID NOT KNOW AMOUNT OF LEVY.
Mr. Moss-You were never on file at the Police
Board? A.-No sir
Mr. Clarke-Now. I wish you would be just
candid to you have been to the Commits
sioner A.-There has been no suggestion made to
Q-What was the trouble about? Al have had
Odd you ever hear about it-how much was
to be paid? Now come, sergeant. now. come; now
how much was II? DO tell 1t right out now you
the stand under oath now you have got
good record; you are a straight man. now. let
find one police officer that will talk straight. Al
telling you canddly.
Q-But how much was the talk about? Al
don't know.
Q.-Never heard? A.-Never heard a word. That
Q-Can, you give us any reason under Gods
heaven. II what you now say Is true. that You
didn't join the organization? Al didn't join the
Q.-Why didn't you? Now. why didn't you?
Don't stop to think. Tell me right out. A-Wel.
Q.-Do you know anybody else that didn't join
it? Al have no knowledge ,. -, a..
other sergeants about this association? ANo. sir.
Q1None of them ever asked you whe'her you
Q.-Isn't that little bit peculiar? Alt may
look peculiar. an. 49,.
matters and confer with each other to what is
to their interests and what you ought to do about
matters Of that kind? A-Well. don't have much
o. mean generally don't you discuss matters Of
that kind relating to your interests or that OF ON
Q.-Have you ever had any talk with any of the
other sergeants about this organization? A-No,
sir; | have had conversation with them.
Mr.. Clarke-Now. sergeant l am disappointed.
You ot would tell us Now let us see If l can't re-
fresh your memory. You Know Tins don't you
Q.-You know he is the president Of that ser
geants' association don't you? Al really don't
No. sir
DATE OF TRANSFER FORGOTTEN.
The Charman-You read so in the papers. didn't
you?
The Witness-I may have seen It in the papers;
yes.
Q-When were you transferred to Bath Beach;
what day? A-That couldn't give the exact
Q.-was It before or after March 2. 1899? A
That i couldn't say either.
Q.-Couldn't possibly tell US that? A-No.
o.~well. was it in March? Al think it was
o."Hoy long have you been down there, put it
second i" III s is sP about It Ave weeks.
Olive weeks? A.-About wouldn't be posi-
o..-Then you were in New-York in March. weren't
Lyceum is? ANMurray Hill Lycenm? ,,r,
o.-Yes Al think that is Forty-Murray Hill
o..Murray Hill Lyceum? A.-Thirty-fourth-st
Q.-Have you ever been there? Al have been
o~Yes certainly you have A.-That is in the
ssss str hs e se d mssn "d w wn@
TO order by Tins. wasn't 1t? A..What meeting?
en ass meeting ot dropped in
when there balls there during the winter when
o|Was there ball there when Tins was pre-
siding and ordered the doors locked? Al was
Didn't you hear an announcement t that the
mss Or to $50 upon to- p
on death the widow was to receive 500? Al don't
Q.-You did not hear any such reason as that
given for forming this sergeants' organization?
Q-is this the first time you have heard that
proposition? AnThis SIS is about bout the o first time o,s-
times have you heard 1t? A-only when saw IT
in the paper.
HE BELIEVES IN NEWSPAPERS.
Q-All of your knowledge is derived from the
papers Do you believe the papers? A-well
the same as other people.
Q.-Do you read the papers about police matters?
Ayes as we'll other matters.
nsnS5 from that police f ess
'o@Yo@ Knew hey provided for, tie ireorsanlza-
ton Of the knsT Of be bills prd SE for the
wpng out Of the ID and cpmmS
o"You felt that would have good deal of effect
upon the personnel of the force didn't you? A
20 9E b you knew there were lots of officers
didn't you? A~That could not say.
DID not Bt yg k9e o that h chaGse
S Ss1f a ycaS Az d!d not 6sST anything
they weqe af EaI was not afraid "O"
were sent to- Bath Beach You knew from your
knowledge Of the Department that certain men |
H.9Weii. don't know.
do e to ha hng
discussed in the pepSTtment because Sase not d 6ne
That is S not SO. cannot remember anybody dis
cussng It, -
O-You have heard letter read at that meeting |
from a Brooklyn Assemblyman? Al was not at |
the meeting.
Q-Didn't you drop in at all? A-No.
OIL thought you said you dropped In a while |
ago? A.-That was in the fall-during the winter |
O-Didnt you hear that letter was sent advis- |
ing the sergeants and patromen and the rounds |
men that bills at Albany teopardzed their inter |
ests and didn't YOU hear that Tins suggested that |
they then pass from labor TO refreshments? A
Odd you ever hear that phrase? A-No. sir:
Odd YOU ever hear Tins say that? A.-No. |
sir don't take refreshments.
NOT TO BE CAUGHT BY COUNSEL.
O.-This was not that kind OF refreshments. Was |
Flood there? A-Where?