New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-01
THURSDAY,
JUNE I, 1899.

Q-Becavse you had thought Of that rule you had
determined not TO let her go7 Ayes, sir.
Q.-And you told her so? A.-Yes. sir.
Q-why did yo1 not bring Mrs Moore and MIRA
Vermuee down? A.--She told a very pitiful tale
TO the Commissioner.
Q.-I not asking you that. am asking yoo
why you did not bring Mrs. Moore and Mrs We're
muele down. Answer the question. All you rec
ollect said at the disposal OF Mrs. Moore ana
Mrs. vermuee that rule TO go into effect:
after the disposal Of their cases that rule was to
go into existence
Q.-That rule promulgated to take effect
not Immediately? Alt 20 take effect from
that moment, but they not to be sent back
Q.-It to take effect at that moment as to
everybody except Mrs Moore and Mrs. Vermuelef
A.--No exceptions to be made.
Q.-You did bring them down? A.-No; did
not / intended to bring them down, said. after
they were disposed Of II you be fair will be fair
Mr.. Moss. Don't dwell technicalities Mr.. Moss.
and try 10 mix ~.
The Chairman-He can't mix you up.
Mr.. Moss-You tumbling around spectre
and there Is no spectre there A-No SIR am
Q-You made rule that other should
&c up there which rule was 70 take effect a, once
as 70 persons that were in the cells? Ain the
DIN the corridor but It not to apply 70
Mrs vermuele and Mrs Moore? Att was not to
apply TO anybody after they were disposed OF.
S.W y, il 70 spgPly to them' A-rhey were
SWWSsy no e apply TO h sSs fact AS hat had 10.
determined.
MYTHICAL" QUESTIONS BARRED.
Q.-why didn't you SO determine? A.--Now you
are asking me mythical question
Q.-That is not mythical question. Al am
oH He 70 are @' three women Mrs. Howard now
od yo IN n send h p al q o M T no
Q-Here was Mrs Howard In the corridor up
o@was there any difference between them as
against Mrs. Towards character in your mindl
A-No. SIR l said determined not TO have any
Q.-sO far as character was concerned they stood
on an equal footing? A.-They did.
Mrs. Howard to stay down in that corridor from
not apply to Mrs vermuele or Mrs Moore7 Al
think | have explained matters; ! said that
formulated rule that no more should come from
Q.--I understand that; but why did you make Z
! have explained that. '''"' ''''''
OWN you wait until have finished my ques-
cannot follow them.
with this matter and not have any argument Il
you will answer the questions we will progress
.,o-Is there any reason more than you men.
/ case? Al cant see that made any dlscrimi:
nation formed that rule before Mrs. Howard
came in there. Is that plain enough? II was not
| TO apply anybody having privilege at that
Q.-Is that the best you can tell about that7 A.
think 4 is very integ gent y exPl ssn
Now il you will let me go and finish my exc
'Q.~No. A.-Then you seem to have only ques-
The Charman-The stenosrapher will strike thss
! from the record.
The Witness-As was relating
HE TOOK LANTRY's ADVICE.
o-Never mind; hold on. How long after you
main on the tier upstairs? a. a she she was on thu
o IRON 'h ens aid they remain on the tier after
! you refused Mrs. Howard? A.-About three weeks
/ Mrs Howard remained there until she was re-
Commissioner Lantry, wasn't she? A-No' she
oIThen how did you change your !? Al
am trying to explain that but you won't allow me
| Q.-Don't talk so much, but answer the guess
lions. A.-Let me explain ---
A.-The answer to that question requires an eA-
pew o.@We are waiting for it. A-Mr. Moss shuts
privilege Of the tier on Monday Mr Ia, bant y, h,n
a oId very beautiful story her condition and
the way she accused, and she istenea s lnIpey
had made in my. mind that would have tCsx no
Re G Of out weak 81 tn and delicate Woman which
her appearance then was and he said Il have al
tbsre and after that time restore her back be-
hind the gate after you dispose OF them h s, ony
think that the rules YOU have adopted are proper,
should advise you to fOlSw them sa sne Yea arc
f pe c S9%H and Will obey you" snd
did 81 MRS Mr. TER EgtR rom shat tm until she
posed Of in direct violation OF the nm ,n
the disposal Of Mrs vermuele and Mrs . Moore oss
She was her good oehsyor ana nd we asreed
that everything was going on very nicely ". aH Yer.
did not put her 6eh ~ fnf rested her with all the
Kindness and consideration possible
READY FOR MRS. HOWARD.
o.-That is not questioned Ayes 1t Is; the
9-WHe o sTe noI how much Of the time dl6
you these peop.? 81 az tour hours on day
aHty onSS four hours at night. conversed With
the women missionaries ana every Tn1 OF
ga. whom IN Ms Af HEoW Sn hHsde by Mr.
Howard in the newspaper naVq {, n,y y possession.
and can proS ghenP ABoth the Jewish minister
~ ,ha chanIain and the Presbyterian minister ana
~ Rantist minister and the Catholic chaplain aso
Mrs. Eusts MISSIONARY: Mrs Mrs Nam Aiken. mis-.
sonry sSr there has sworn adavits the cons
nar the unruthfuness OF these statements
Mr. MossIt Is most rerna h5s e name psners IN hin
| hand -, 49,, -. -..t~.
Mr. Moss-It is most remarkable thing 10 mahe
amdayits TO meet a charge that has not been mace
Mr. Hoffmsn-They were made by the he"sp~-
pers
MI MOSS Suggest 'ha' N'N0~
| carafuv preserved mark them. II necessary. WITH
| an initial until we have heard all that Is 70 DO
said then II they are pertinent 10 the testimony,
they will be worth considering
| Mr. O.suuivan Showing papers)-I will ask you -
| look these papers -
Mr. Moss-I don't want those afidavits TO 60 N
a. this stage: II is simply numbering UP the record.
The Charman-They not offered yet.
Mr. Osunivan-I want him TO look at the papers
! handed him.
Mr. Moss-Has the witness been under any
charge?
| NJ OsulIvan-It is not the question OF a charge
II Is question OF corroboration OF this witness %
the roost disinterested testimony that can be of~