New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-15
Mr.. CROKER'S TESTIMONY.
WHAT MR.. MOSS WIRING FROM THE TAM
MANY RULER.

work. for many years? Ayes. sir. I say the
democratic Club. I live temporarily there
o-Yes. I understand you You the leader
Of the political organization generally known as
Tammany Hail. are you not! Al don't know
va oS.iG$enerally conceded to be. are you not? A
wei ! amt talking for myself: If others say am,
am. ,.o, ~. 40, ta,r,ro ,or vourss,f
hui II others say you are, you are? Ayes sir
The Chairman-Gentlemen it is absolutely neces-
sarv that we have quiet here so that the witness
can heard by the stenographers and by eounsei:
WE aT small Ip9 and is crowded and ask the gentle
men going in ana out TO do so quietly 49,. o,
erSment Of our city. as Wen as of our country,
depends upon the existence Of POLITICAL parties we
ond PeTfeety proper thing n e. we Ce will both 3
terest for political parties we agree on 'na' uoi
"Q-And that .poltical, parties must be led we
q man TO be the leader of a political party; we
don't disagree on that do we? A'-No' ooi'
QHAnd of course the leader Of political party;
10 be a leader must know what is gong on kao%
NE NE gb bc aairs Of the city or the State the
case may be We will agree on that VIII we A
oEAnd I think too, Mr. Croker, that we VIII VII
agree that the leadershp whcn 1,d rs he TACT that
You have the reputation of being tru'hiui HAL
VIII we agree on that? Al try 10 De-
SWALLOWS sCHRAUB's TAFFY.
o. noticed. Mr. Croker in the account pub
Nshed in The journal this morning Of last nights
dinner some remarks made by Mr.. Schraub, who
responded to the toast THE Democracy of the
State" in which these words are quoted: They
cry out against Richard Croker and denounce him
as the uncrowned king. yet no single act OF MS
life merits their abuse except that he has been the
most successful leader the Democracy of this state
has ever had and that in every spot and place his
word has been his bond. and his integrity above
question Did he make those remarks in your
Q.-You will agree with the sentiment Of the cx-
preston, will you? A-Yes -, ,h,s o,,v Mr.,
schraub meant and you understood him TO mean;
the organization gene ally called rammsny HAM
oIYou presided at one of the tables last night:
did you not? A.-No, not presided' was guest
o'You were a guest at one Of the tables? A
Q-Table B? Ayes. .. ..,s
nsTspaPe'sa sta' sBd 59st you we're presd
o'-The newspapers state that you had surround
Ing you certain sasa Senator Edward Murphy
and John F. Carroll These men were on either
O-fs that Mr. Carroll the same gentleman who
was the clerk Of the Court Of General sessions
Gle is now your assistant n matters Of the
city Democracy. is he not? A A., derrtv 1s that
n proper term? Al don't know what you might
cali him--a deputy or assistant Whatever you
" o~It would be one or the other? A.-You could
oHycu don't object TO my calling him that? A
You can cali him whatever you like.
nIy Il ne him IN that way--deputy leader of the
party. Then there was the Sheriff Of the county OF
John B. Sexton Coroner Edward Fitzpstrick 9ohn
P oakley. Congressmsa1n William suZSr Bovie.
James j. coogan President Of the BOT%ugh R Mr
doph Guggenheimer President OF the S4uf W,a ann
sohmer Register Isaac Fromme, Michael / Day
PaTSK Rgyer M pe5rF r. Hoahan Street Clean
Ing COMMISSIONS: James Mccartney, Aq lsouer
John ]. scanneii Corporation Counsel John Ohm
When Charles Welde Thomas y BpSSn presdet
o. ;h the Board Of Health; Daniel F. McMahon OF
ne firm Of Nong9 peter Never and others You
recall you were surrounded by those geh'iei"e"'
Q.1Ail of those gentlemen are prominent in tho
coGnciis Of the party. are they not? AaYes o,s.rs
0smAp nd I Ihey are nls A~Yes
o.1There is a directing council in your organ "a
'?9 fasS ' are the men who direct the aars Of
TammaHy Hail they not? ArNot altSgetneff
have they not? A.-They are the custodans OF the
DSo5l HTsS. custodians of the building? A.-Yes
QThat IS the headauarterS 81 tne bav are
Nc trustees OF building.
o.-Like trustees of church? A-fes; .ro,,,
S-Chareed with tho ;emporalities OF tho church?
A;CY ghese sachems are charged with that? A
they being ss rsns shs arr
t the association. are they not? Aof the Tammany
s3SS,et8f the Tammany Society? Ayes.
9 -You I'd freauentlv meet with those gentlemen in
consultation about the affairs OF the Iammany So
Getty? Al not a member OF the Tammany
Society.
APPLAUSE FOR THE WITNESS.
o-You are simply the leader Of the Tammany
democracy? A.-That is what you say. If you
say So yes. am.
o-You admit II? Al do admit 1t.
There is n difference between the Tnmmany
eoc,e,v and A. dnterruptng)-It is not necessary
- ring all that up: that which everybody knows.
There is no playing to the galleries; there Is
70 use making speeches. we an Know everything
IA, has beer SAID. We know that am the leader
OF the and anS hat ano MAJ eo al
70 stick 10 them all the timc iAppiause)
NJ Moss-That is right nope ' aeo Cna ma, nan
viii allow that once in whiie' IL Goes not as
eG MT c1rr o give me good straight talk
That is all Jam am 's Ali these gentlemen know that
ha AM Is co on the leader All these gentlemen
are my friesds you tSe h use Of that?
oWe viii try accommodate you; ma; ,on sny
We do not want 10 msn than is necessary
Al am only saying hat for the oehena OF n az
oNow you say that f frsnds and You are their
have mentioned are your i'e"'
oYou discuss together the poatSail, ma' Ya
give sn tbe I Certain amount Of advice and drec
ton yourself? Ayes. oo,e,,r,ss they do
Q-And they follow IL? A.-soine'ine' ''''' Wv
and sometimes they do not a., =, ,ben do
o-Most Of them do? A-Most OF me mem v ov as
so s4ns sen ShsH 's talk 10 10 her
Q-And bring them into lney Ariiesi ,or,v con
Q-And that is the only way a p In', ~ A-Yes
ne ne MADE practically SUCCESSFUL 10"
Alt does not do to have divided COUNSEL at 'H'
,oAnd for that reason. when prrty Is TO a1 a5
n naTi the men who are put IN % ocbt 10 DO in
such relation 10 the head that they 90 Whul -