New-York tribune., 1899-02-16
dollar ne had put into that enterprise rather
than that legislation for the construction Of the
canal should fail at this session
MIR GROsVENOR's SPEECH

MIR. GROSVENORS SPEECH.
Mr.. Grosvenor Gep.. OhioJ vigorously con-
tended that the point Of order was not well
tnken. He could not understand ne said. why
members should get excited because the repre-
sentatives Of the people were making honest
effort to do that which all political parties had
sworn they would do for the last five years.
Mr.. Steele Nep.. Ind. in the course Of an
interruption. spoke Of the purpose TO overrule
the Char.
How do you know we will have to overrule
the Chair before the Chair rules" asked Mr
GrOsvenor.
because the Chair commonly rules way"
replied Mr Steele
1T is very strange" said Mr. Grosvenor. that
a gentleman VIII begin 10 discuss the petition In
error before the judgment OF the trial court has
been rendered" Continuing he said the Mica
ragua Canal bill would not have been offered az
an amendment to the Sundry Civil bill had not
the chairman Of the Appropriations Committee
announced that neither the Canal bill nor the
ship Subsidy bill would receive consideration at
this session. He referred 10 the refusal OF that
gentleman to-day to allow a special order to
consider the bill to be made That. he said. was
wan TO the knife. This therefore. was the only
remedy which could reach the deadlock. He
would. he declared do his duty and take the
wrath ~ the powers that be. He contended that
the work Of constructing the canal was now IN
progress within the meaning OF the rule. II
this amendment was not placed upon the pend
ing Till he declared that the grandchild Of no
member present would live long enough to see
the canal built.
Mr.. Quigg Interrupted To say that the Mari
time Canal Company. If II could have its way,
would have this bin passed today
Put will it not then seek to have II amended
In the Senate 20 secure payment for It's con-
cessiOns?" asked Mr. Hemenway Rep., Ind.
II presume il Will II would be- very foo!sh
did il not seek 20 protect its interests d-augh-
tcr)
Ny. Cannon denied emphaticaIly that the fail
ure 10 break down this rule meant the abandon
ment of the construction OF the canal 10y the
United States.
But Mr Grosvenor reiterated t and said that
If this effort failed ne favored the passage Of a
joint resolution 10 inform the nations or the
earth that tho United States had given up the
project and would welcome the building Of the
canal on the terms upon which the Suez Canal
was built
THE CHAIRMANS DECISION.
A. the close Of Mr Grosvenor's speech Chair
man Hopkins announced that he was ready to
rule When order had been restored he made
a careful and elaborate ruling In which ne
pointed out that the question presented was
purely a parliamentary one. He reviewed the
arguments adduced on both sides. cited prece-
dents and concluded by sustaining the point or
order against the amendment After rehdt'ihs
his decision the Chair went further by taking
up the question raised by Mr smith OF Mlch-
gan as 10 whether the treaty or lNp' dld not
warrant the amendment. He held that IL dlu
not -
Mr. Hepburn Immediately appealed from the
decision OF the Chair.
Nj Dalzcll (Rep, PENN moved 10 lay the
appeal on the table bur this motion was de-
clared out Of order in Committee Of the Nhoe.
Mr Hepburn said he was willing to allow the
arpeal o. be decided without further debate but
Mr Fleming dem, Ca insisted on being i"ard
i'm favor Of sustaining the decision Of the Chalr.
The rule In question. ne argued. was the shleld
and protection Of the minority.
on a rising vote the Chair was sustained
1-2 TO us Mr Hepburn loudly demanded
tellers
The vote by tellers confirmed the rising vote
Tho Chair was sustained-l27 10 lOJ-and the
amendment was ruled out
Mr. Grosvenor presented resolution nXlng
Fehruarv 20 and 2l for consideration OF the
Hepburn Nicaragua Canal bill with a vote Oh
February 81 at p. m.