New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-16
building leased by It for athletic purposes only
for at least one year.

auspices The contention OF the people therefore
tend In passing the Horton law. to allow associa-
TONS Incorporated upder the membership law, 10
profit. but Intended 70 allow such associations 70
have sparring exhibitions for It's members privately.
or In any event did not intend 10 permit such
sociations 20 charge admission fees 10 such enter
tninments This construction appears to have been
put upon the law by many OF the associations them
selves, as the evidence shows that the assoc alton
bfr S o as T1 as others haye R1
ticket" which the counsel for the defendants fairly
admitted IN court was mere subterfuge: supposed
to bring the clubs within the protection OF the Hor-
-, =" Defendants held under bond under Section 4es.
o.-NGw in view OF the plain provisions Of the
whether admission fees were being Charged? A.
must have been done through the members
,Q-How many, people were attending that exhii
could not say.
Q.-were there 1900 there7 A-There might have
Q.-were there 900 people there7 A.-There might
Q-Were there as many as 5000 people there. in
your Judgment? A-There might have been and
OIL say. in your Judgment were there as many
as 5000 people there? A.-There might have been
Q.-You did not suppose the Athletic Club has
membership Of 500. did you? Al could not say
o-N9. doubt that, You really saw that con-
test 3!d you saw ne etcrv Al d about IT, Ayes SIR
TOO FAR BACK FOR HIS MEMOIR.
that. | will ask YOU If You we're present. at the
fight in the Lenox Club on January 10 Of this year
between David Sullivan and oscar Gardner? Al
don't think was.
Omaha KID" Were you not there? Al might
Q.-You don't remember? A.-No.
Q.-The news accounts Of that fight quoting
from The Herald" now. say Dave Sullivan
Knocked out, A@He 10 MAY yO have become ex-
hausted for want Of wind or something OF that
Q.-Is that knocking out? A slight tap may
put him down and he would not be able TO get UP
again
The Chairman-Do you say he would become , ex-
hausted from a slight blow? "A slight bio"
get up again through the distance he had went and
the certain number Of rounds He might have been
knocked out by blow without mmediatly coming
OF he is knocked out he has TO be knocked out
for ten seconds? Avery often he goes down and
stays ten seconds without wanting to come to him
Mr. Moss-"Gardner's left eye. in the beginning Of
the next round. caught sulvans left, ana was
R open ms was tne 5esb NJ OF uere severe n en-
gagements, Sullivan trying the shoulder business
and swung fierce body blows. Gardner had the
best Of the next round, although he was once pui
his man with rights and efts. and vicious right
Sullivan's left ear caused round OF applause
Fourteenth and fifteenth rounds-Gardner's left
reached the other mans nose repeatedly and Il
bled twice In succession. Sullivan was fioored with
a left-hander the second one ne got. tremendous
blow on the point Of the jaw, and was unconscious
for several seconds and was counted out" What
indicate a fight you should interfere with not?
ing-straight blows
TICKLING WITH FEATHERS.
o.-Then you think there was nothing for you 10
passed TO have these people tickle each other with
fea theirs
Ooh that Is IT; the law not passed TO have
those people tickle each other with Gathers; II was
passed as you understand It. for the purpose Of
a other is
self-defence OF young men in a scientific way.
with gloves not less than five ounces in certain
and that REQUIRES they should hit very hard
A.~These laws have never seen violated in any
Q-Then you differ with the Supreme Court. do
DO not wish TO differ with the Supreme Court
Q-Now. men can box and spar for points? A
Q-Wthout doing these things that have read
can "a Ia and AZ times they can't? glove will cut
you faster than what the bare knuckles will
. And when they use the elbow II cuts toog
ON accident. and when men get so excited
consider it simply the accident OF the development
Of The manly arr; and mat ~ Is none Is your cer
Q--wei under those circums,taences' An
pass or by getting away from pass Instead OF
getting, The gIoye.catch the elbow ,.. -, r.,-,,
arv Geading from The PressO: Young Pluto.
punching bag Australian pugst badly msu .sd
Greenwood Athletic Club" Were you present az
0-Tfo had charge Of that on the police side?
A-The captain Of the precinct -
O-Dl1 he report 10 you? Ale might have II
there was anything out Of the way -,., ,.
Odd you read the reports OF mat nght,n Al
ODD YOU read the newspaper accounts Of It?
Al might have; don't remember.
HE BLAMEs THE PUBLIC.
O-You read the sporting news don't you? A
Q-You ordered no arrest in that case. did YOU
Al don't remember any.
Q-Now understand YOU 10 say that when Two
an indication Of intentional hard-hghting con
test. which the police should take into consdera-
" Q-At times is 1t not always So A.-No; not
QENot always? A-No.
Qwe under wsa clr2y% Guns sr5on should Sd5 IT
any. except you see Mt 10 put that construction on
O-You saw At to put that obstruction upon the
recent fight didn't you? Al certainly did ana
you did assist me. eitheE
Q-What assistance were you looking for from
me? Al wanted 10 stop It If could-personally.
Q-How could have stopped It? A.-The public
could have stopped It.
Q.-Are you calling upon me as the public or as
an individual or In what capacity? A-Heretofore
the public seemed to not want matters Of that
kind.
Q-You say did not help you; what help did you.
expect from me? A.-You failed 10 understand
that this was the first champion contest that ever
took place in this city vicinity.
Q-You thought II should have been prevented?
Al thought il should have been prevented.
Q-And you think so still? A-Well. don't
think so now because It a square. up-and-up
contest They worked under the law-diln't vio
late the law In any way.
Q-You supposed when II was talked about that
Il would be worked under the law. didn't you
Al thought It might be turned into prize-hght?
Q-Wasn't It prize-fght; didn't they night for
prize? A-They may have fought for prize but
did not enter into what you might call prize-hght
Q-When people night each other in that way il
It not prize-fght? A.-No, sir.
Q-When they fight for prize? A.-No.
Q-What makes it prize-ight. then? A.-When
they fight under the London rules. and strike IN