The age-herald., 1899-09-09
ARCHIBALD BEFORE
 THE COMMISSION He Mas on the Stand for Seven
 Hours. LANGUAGE WAS VIGOROUS Said Two Members Were COnieSSodly
 Members Of the Trust. SUPPORTED STANDARD COMPANY The Witness Said We Were Simply Following the Example of Eng-
 land, the Greatest of All
 Commercial Nations
SUPPORTED STANDARD COMPANY

Washington, September S.-At today's session of the industrial commission an animated controversy occurred between Chairman Phillips of the commission and J. D. Archibald of New York, vice-presi- dent of the Standard Oil company. MT. Archibald was on the stand and replied to statements made by J. w. Lee of the United Pipe line and other independent companies. Referring to Lees statement Archibald said:
 Any approaches on that line have come from the other sde," and he proposed to say that such advances had been made not only by Lee but by others connected with the independent lines, including MT. Phil lips. We declined their offers," he said, "because We considered them illegal, and furthermore because our lack of faith in the men from whom the proposition came having had previous experiences with them"
 Propositions Illegal
 In reply to MT Phillips he said he did not claim that the propositions were "un- fair, or unjust, but Illegal"
 Mir. Phillips attempted to make state ment at this point, but was cut off by the
  at any time take the stand in his own be- half
 This especial incident closed here. MT Archibald several times used the express sion, referring to Mir Lee, who was pres ent in the room, "The statement Is false and you know it." Mir Livingston at last objected to the form of expression.
 MT. Archibald was on the stand for seV- eral hours closing his statement at o'clock During this time he replied to the criticisms made by Mir. Lee, Attorney Gen. eral Mon4 of Ohio and others. His lang uage for he most part was vigorous. He characterised many of the statements made by the witness untrue and refer red to the witnesss themselves in any thing but complimentary terms.
 Cnnges-cdl rast 1'cmbrrs
 He said that MT. Lee and Mir. Phillips, of the commission, had both confessed that they were members of trust. He denied that an arrangement was in existence for the sale of lubricatng oil to the officers of the railroad companies to the advantage of the officers thereof, and that the Standard company had asked or received any dis crimnating rates from the railroad com- panies since the interstate commerce law went into effect
 He said the company was determined to force MT, Monnett to reveal the whole truth concerning his allegation that the company had offered him a bribe of $40O.- 0O0.
 The witness concluded with a direct statement in support of the Standard com- pany. He took the position in his state- ment that trusts are the necessary result of our rapidly growing commerce.
 Fo blowing Eagi,n.' xa
 In adopting them, we are but following the example of that greateM of all com- mercial nations-England-un whose commercial charters capitalization and scope are practically unlimited Any leg islative restriction imposed here would operate alone to the benefit of foreign com mercial competitors. The claim that such restriction would help the weak and in- competent of our own country as against the strong and aggressive is too puerille to call for serious answers.
 He expressed the opinion that the Stand ard oil combination had been of vast bene- fit to the world at large, and said speaking generally "the outcry against corporations does not come from the great, busy indus- trial classes, but from impractical senti- ments, yellow journals and political dema- gogues the last named perhaps more than any other. It is a vertable attack thrift and prosperity. To listen to their voice to the extent of imposing restrictive Legislation would mean a fri9htful step backward in the commercial development of our country"
 He suggested national corporations as the only Legislation necessary.
 EYRE SAVANNAH