New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-16

bruised. and that Bernstein was without scratch.
Was there anything in that 10 arrest anybody for
anything in that fight contrary law? A.-Cer-
tanly not or they would have been placed under
Q.-Now. there was one case where the police did
where Jack Downey and Patrick Sweeney met, and
according TO The Brooklyn Eagle Downey met
his match and was saved from knockout by the
interference Of the police. Was that done under
your directions dire Ct ON: -, ArNo; sir
cumbent upon you to interfere and prevent a
knOekout3 A:-You don't know when a knockout
'Q;-You can tell when a man has reached his
limit OF endurance, can't you? tNot answered.
az, 3a.caI.t you tell that AT times you can
Q.-Now. as to samples of the newspapers. news;
Sun Of June l. 1893 it is stated The purse be;
statement BY Mr SoT Cor ' That IS coming from
high Authority, isn't It? Al don't know nothing
HIS OWN WORDS QUOTED.
o-You did not follow that did you? A;-No. sir;
e,Noy let rs see DID ycq say this about ,ha
statements expressions about prize rings and box,
Ing matters and from various sources; IL would
simmons and Series. who are down for sparring
contest next Friday who are going TO hght under
no such sugging match is intended. then these
on 'ts the H% OSd they g
impose on the public? Although their members,
ON what way? A.-You will have to inquire OF
the members.
is Intended. then the statements are for the sole
& Of sWs 9d exnsS on tell fn you Ra
Q;-By inducing the public TO bet-that is No. /
Isn't that so? Was not that what you thought OF?
Q.IInduci9s the public to spend their money to to
thought OF? Although their members. yes. per-
haps.
perhaps"7 Al don't know Of any other way Tor
them TO dispose Of any tickets except through their
th 5e!t G dispose Of fO any f icEets any ''
Other members may sell tickets. OF course, to
he public? API have told YOU personally that
was opposed TO that and tried to throw az much
Q-Yes; You have told US that You state: Con
derRs the ne parties to The c9n and TIER Is
physical imnossiDility FOR the two indiyidusls re-
ferred to to carry on lawful contest Tor points on
@.-YYeu think so yet? A Yes, ssu. :, ~ ont.
and-out prize-hght. and you sill think so? A.-Yes
Q-lou state: Il shall be present at the contest
the letter and spirit OF the law shall be upheld
and that no smuggling shall take place: and any per,
upon by thinking that there will be will find him
self very much mistaken. Have you heard any
plainng that they were gued and imposed upon
BY that fight? A.-No. heard the general public
ments as that. 1t seemed as II they wanted the
thing to take place
DEFERRED TO PUBLIC OPINION
o.-Is that why you withdrew your opposition
to #? A-That Is the reason.
Q-You withdrew your opposition because you
thought you were not popular with the public?
A-The public seemed want II.
Q-That is the idea? A.-As long as they kept
within the law.
o. ask you the question, have you heard OF
any serious complaints from the public that they
did not get what they expected TO get when they
went there? A.-No: on the contrary, they got
all they expected.
Q-They got all they expected. what was that?
A good boxing contest.
C-You thought there would be more than that
when you wrote this letter? A-No, but thought
that possibly they might go further than they did
ct will be we'll for the public TO understand
that the first heavy blow struck will end the con-
test" Nov a heavy blow may be struck in a
clinch? Alt may be.
Q-And heavy blows were struck without clnch-
ing? A-You' will have to come In contact with
them MI Moss. I couldn't tell whether they were
heavy They were straight blows.
OIL don't want to come in contact with them.
Did you see heavy blows struck? Al saw
good scientific contest
Odd you see heavy blows struck? Al don't
think did
Q-Do you know whether you did or not7 A
I think some OF them had a little force. but |
couldn't tell whether they were heavy or not
O-These blows staggered the that received
them? A.-Occasionaly Jared them up httle
bit.
Q-Occasionally jarred them up a little BIT? A
I told you they didn't there to tickle each
other with feathers.
Q-They didn't 90 there 10 tickle each other with
feathers but when a weighing 2JS pounds
strikes a blow that staggers a man that weighs
2lO pounds do you call that a heavy blow? A
At that time
Q-Do you call that q heavy blow? Alt that
time know there was blows in clinches no
blows in breakaways. and It was clear scientific
bout fully within the law.
Q-You said II there any heavy blows
struck you would stop 1t. The Chief just rolled
I'D the sleeve from his muscular and smiled.
Would you know one II It came your way? he
said have sworn that won't have II. so II
Knockout blow is struck-the Chief answered-'To
the lookup they go" Did they go TO the lookup?
A.-No one complained they were struck heavy
there
Q-You were there and saw? Al couldn't tell
Q-You didn't expect two prlze-hghters TO COM
plain OF the blows they got from each other?
i certainly did not
Oft was for you TO find out whether they
struck those blows, and whether they violated the
law Of the State? A.-They did not
sLUR ON FITzsIMMoNs
O-Was there a Knockout blow? Al couldn't
say There was a went down. 70 get out OF
the way.
Ole lay his back unconscious. didn't heE
A-That couldn't say
Q.-Why can't you say? Al don't know
whether he was knocked out or not
O-You saw him struck. and you saw him put
down and you saw MIN lie on his back, and you
saw him dragged out by his attendants? Al DID
not lie was placed seat and came 70 rlsht
away and shook hands with his antagonist. and
wa lked out OF the ring himself, and walked out
OF the ring without any assistance Whatsoever
Q.-Then did you consider your duty 10 De thst
Of sort OF referee. to see that there was fair
ngnting or not? A.-NO. sir
Q-And interfere II the hghting is to9i 81 a.
Q-Then you would interfere? A-Then would
interfere.
O-As a referee? A.-No. sir.
C-You stood as the city In the person OF the
fight? A.-No sir
doesn't il look like II? A.-No sir
Q-You didn't enjoy your position there? A
Q-You wanted 10 stop It? At they violated