The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-25

etict IN Denall. OF hr. MCCuIG anu
whether McCune was a solid silver
as to whether church influence was
used on Mr.. Laws behalf in Cache
county and he resented it, and Nj.
Sloan said he could prove it,
| viii ask you by way of refreshing
your memory whether or not there was
anything said there about Mr.. Law
coming over to the McCune side2 Yes,
sir.
About the campaign costing Mr.. Nc
Cune a good deal? 1 heard no such
statement as that. Mr.. Law was max
ing the remark that he was a little
afraid of Mr.. McCune's silver record
because Mckinley Republicans were
friendly toward him. I explained TO
him on the church influence matter,
and Mr.. Sloan insisted that lie had had
church influence, he resented it and
Sloan said he could prove it.
Now. you were in McCune's ksad-
quarters Monday last in the presence of
other gentlemen, when Mr.. Wins came
in to talk about this? Yes, sir; 1 was
there.
ALSO HEARD WINS.
Did you, that evening, hear Mr.. Wins
in making his explanation of what oc-
Cured. did you hear him say that when
he and MI. Harris went to the head of
the stairs that evening when Mr.. WINS
was leaving, that Harris said, GO and
see Jackson; find Jackson, and never
mind the expense" and did you hear
Fisher Harris at that time ask him il
he, WINS, did not speak of the prob
able need of a carriage in connection
with it? Yes, sir. Mr.. WINS admitted
the response to Mr.. Harris that he,
WINS, had mentioned carriage.
m a +iOF, nv Mr.
There were three conversations. were
there not, that were referred to? Yes
1 think he did refer to three
Now, did he make any more than one
reference to carriage in his interview
which you had with him on Monday
night? L think he made one reference
in connection with it. being the last
time he came, that he might need a
carriage.
Did he say the carriage was men
toned in the first conversation? No,
he said in the last conversation
Was there anything said about it in
the second conversation? Not that
remember of.
Don't you know as a matter of fact
in the first conversation he had with
Harris. he had been all over town for
Jackson and couldn't find him, and
didn't he say that Harris said, You
better go and get a carriage and hunt
him up? No, sir. But in the last con-
versation, he said that Harris said,
Get a carriage get two carriages;
language as I recall it, and Mr.. Wins
admitted that he said that.
Had you expected an election that
day? Yes, sir.
Can you give the names of the per-
sons who were going to vote for Mr..
McCune and make the thirty-two votes?
Yes. The new men that we expected to
vote for Mr.. McCune on Saturday were
Senator d. o. Rideout, Representative
S. w. Stewart. Mr.. Larsen of Utah
county, Senator D. II. Peery, jr.
WOULD HAVE ELECTED MCUNE.
How do you make the IS, without
Peery? We had % without Peery, yes,
sir We had Hardin BenniOn, NJ. Il.
Cannon, r. c. Chambers, A. j. Evans,
J. V. Robson. a. O. SnoOt, K. Z. Tan
ner. r. X Thomas. o. +. Whitney, L
X. Wright, II. Bcnnion, J. G.. Bywatel',
j. W. Clyde, Horace Cummings. y. F.
Farr, A. w. Forman, J. II. Fullmer, J.
Z. Hansen, A. VI. Horne B. T. Lloyd,
NJ. W. Mansfield, ]. G. McQuarrie, w.
Robertson. ". NJ. Roylance, r. b.
Shepard; that is 2S. Besides, Mr. Perry.
What assurance had you that Ne.
Pefn-y would vote on that day? 1 had
been at his room in the morning and
had talked with him. He said he had
bCan sick since 4 O'Clock. He said the
doctor viii be here after a while, and
i he. says it is all right, L viii get a
carriage and so down Mr.. Poery gave
me 70 understand that if it was neces-
sary and the doctor would consent, he
would go down ard vote.
But as a matter Of fact Il at man was
pretty sick? Yes, sir.
And he would not promise unless the
doctor consented? oh, he could walk
around the room.
You didn't see the doctor? No, sir.
As matter of fact. he was not there?
No, sir.
Could Mr. McCune have been elected
without him? He could have been
elected with the other three MIR. Rich
ards had gone home. and Mr.. Peery
said, I don't see. that it makes any diff
ference whether | go or stay Rich
ards is away, but if the doctor consents
viii go, if you think it is necessary"
You were counting on SO votes, in
GLIDING Mr.. Peery? Yes, sir.
Didn't he pair with anybody? No, sir.
Mr.. Thurman-You know as a fact
that Mr. McCune knew or relied on the
fact that Mr.. Peery was TO vote for
him2 Mr.. Mcclure relied upon it. and
asked me to see Ir. Peery, and didn't
see Mr.. McCune until just as the joint
assembly had convened
Mr.. Van Cott-Was Richards absent
Saturday? Yes, sir. We knew that Fri
day.
Mr.. Evans-If Mr.. McCune relied on
Mr.. Peeiy being there that day, why
did he send you to see him? Mr.. Nc
Cune expected that Mr.. Peery would
vote Cor him.
Hadn't he been sick several days?
No: well. one day.
Mr.. Stewart-Were you at Mr.. Nc
Cune's headquarters at the time the
6alloting was taking place on Satur-
Jay? Yes, sir.
You were there when Mr.. McCune re-
turned from his interview with Mr..
Law? Yes, sir.
Were you at Mr.. Cune's headquarters
when the word came that Law was
making his charges? Yes, sir.
MCUNE'S FIRST WORDS.
Do you remember what Mr.. McCune
said? When that word came there. L
think l was present when Mr. McCune
was informed, in the back room. think
Mr.. Harris called myself and Mr.. Nc
Cune into the back room and made the
and Mr.. McCune said, il I
correctly: It's a damn lie"
&c said: This man Law offered to
vote for me and asked me $1,000, and I
resented it," L do not know just the
eXact words.
Did ne say anything further? No;
)ut when 1 got back from seeing AIr.
2eery, about II o'clock, 1 went into the
pack room with Mr.. McCune and Har-
is, and he says, well, what about
2eery?' 1 said Henry is sick; did you
Zee your friend Law, and he said yes;
md l said well, what about him; "Oh,"
lie said, he is no good; he is a dirty.
ow-lived rascal: 1 will tell you about