New-York tribune., 1899-06-08
Odd you ever do anything more than tha'
when you went to these pooroomsg A.-No s"'
NEVER FOUND A GAMBLER.

Q-Never found any in all your history A-No'
Nj. Harris and some other witnesses ABOUT no"
they found crowds OF men IN a Wes. s IN yor
preclnci-saw them ali betting and so forth-did you
read that testimony? A.-No. sir. a,,,, Waiting
gambling houses. and there has been special
order ISSUED By the Chief OF Police for men 10 resd
haven't you followed that up? Al haven't time
Q.-What are you doing with your ume' A
o--Working. howT Aust as told you; visit
oEAre there so many OF them that It takes all
your time? A-Got to make two or three-1,.,,
Q.-How many are there that you are WISHING
'o-About how manyg Al couldn't tell you.
8AATs there there ;sR .R Al SSn{ aSndn fpG% say
Q.-Are there five? A-They all on record
Q.-Neyer mind the record; are there three A.
o,~Are there two? Al can't say.
S-YouS' S's guess so; don't You know? Al do.
Q.-You do know; what do you know! A
0DWhere il thatY A--No. 81 West Twenty-ninth
Q.-That Is because we have been taking apou!
It vou9 and GsY oeshgse NO you sin made a" arrest e'
Q-The other man made an arrest and you heard
M YOU never made an arrest there? A-No, sir:
you eysr eSpect If sse see ihem nn nr''
Q.-Do you ever expect to see them? Al can
Q.@You can't tell that? A-No, sir.
A PRECIOUS PAIR OF BAFS.
o.-Do you close your eyes when you go in?
Q.-Who goes with you? A.-sometmes have
Q.~Who generally goes with you what is his
name? A-Barry. I guess.
Q.-Barry, you guess? Don't you know A
Q.-Does he see more than you do? A,-So' A. sir
Q-How do you know he doesn't? A.-Because we
go through the place togetheTt to.r., 500 anv more
.ba, ~ -
Q.-You are sure there is nothing there 10 see
Q.-Dc '!'o you visit suspected gambling houses?
O-Who gives YOU the numbers? A-Sometimes
the sergeant puts them on a list.
Q.-But you always visit the same places? A
o-Y6u don't need to have the numbers given you
every timer Ayes sir
Q.Do you get the numbers every day? Ayes
Q.-Now, what are these places you visited with
In the last month as alleged gambling houses A.
l couldn't tell you any In particular 49, -.
Q.-You have no more knowledge OF that than OF
oBut you nave the list given to you every day
Can't you remember single thing on mat tnat Hs. 81
A.-Sometimes l take them, and sometimes my
partner. 49,. .,.o ,s g.. ,.o,,r
memory so misty that you can't remember single
one OF them2 A.nYes -, SIS sir 90, On -. no,oeo A
O-Passed the examination? when? AIN 1892
by the surgeon for the disease abnesla? A.-They
examined me; they had full control Of me when
o''-pO You intend to apply for retirement on the
ground that you have that disease. A;-No slr
Is II simply that you can't tell them When peo-
pie know things Sor Sns Gan froIb Ig No, ne a that
oMDo you know those things and can't tell
them? Al can't tell them. II I knew them
0.~Then it is a case Of forgetfulness? Ayes,
Q.-Is it really forgetfulness? Ayes. sir.
NO FEAR OF LOSING HIS JOB
o.-Now. how do you expect to be continued on
the force II you forget so on the witness sian stand,
is necessary in your CAPTAINS interest rest and the in
po@Arsnt YOU trying to shield themT Isn't that
the reason you are orgettngy ASo ,; vsnrsef in
order not to give any damaging testimony against
'"S' QYou iSo are Wiling to take the whole brunt on
yourself? A.-Yes. ,..
thing Mbs5 ABOUT 'ftl IL? Hls ASo. aG21' siT RT''' ~
Q.oDo you know how it is played? A.INo sir
AQ2Bar2 QBa2wl in lo2s SsewYork n3Es y9T City ,'eo III
Q.-And where have you lived-what part OF the
t0Tn2 W., A1on 3tlad,s the East HESgbtb.s, s4e
QAnd you don't know oiin anyhnS IN soS%s Ros A
! couldn't say: never played game OF chance IN
u 8.HIs us there such thing policy In your pre-
''GSii QYou 4 don't know? X-Never played game of
S o~i didn't II say you did Did you ever hear of Al
Adams? A.-NO SIT.
Or Doc Jansen? A.-No.
Q.-Neyer heard Of him at all? A1N9S;
Did you ever hear OF the Haymarket? A
ree SIpiS SS%SGfsS you ever hear of the caro9 AYe
The smoking paToT there? AAt ,bd, the n csicG sac3
Do you ever hear CT the Bohemia? A:-fes
Odd you ever hear or the broau"ay "a'ue"'
ArfS Old you ever make any arrests there? ANO
6-Why 9Ot2 Iog were oqI ,ns on special duty
q Was on your beat? A-No,
O-Were YOU never on that beat? Al was on
the back of H. the tail end of it,
SUCH AN INNOCENT MAN!
o.-Why didn't you make any arrest there? A
O.-I want TO ask you little more ABOUT pohcy
What kind Of people play pohcy! Al couiun
'et1 Q.H3What are the signs OF policy shOp' Al
0'~Are there any officers in the precinct that
know anything about policy? A.-That couldn't
'6.-Hayent you tried to get some information
A1Sue 0.WHavent You asked anybody. to inform you
oPo YOU want @ to be o5 so yo% can peTorm
your duties up there? Al would Ike to learn
Why didn't you ask Captain Price? Has he
o' o'HHe 1sGe never told you? A No.
Odd ne ever tell you TO go FOR policy shops?
Q,~What are his orders? A.-Poorooms and
sSnio somWbat are the signs of a poolroom? Al have
never seen any signs Of a poo room. -,
O-What were the signs what would you look
for? A.-For man taking money iOr Oct on
horse. o,-oo.o tIo,,
would YOU know whether certain place is poo-
room or not? Al can't tell them from any other
"a witness said yesterday that YOU can tell
them by following a stream OF people. Did you ever
- o You don't know whether that Is a good plan
or not? A.--No. "a, - 49, =,
Q.--Do you think II Is a good idea VIII you try u
A.
o-AH right that is so much gained. Do you
knov who is the hacker OF the poolrooms in your
distrlct--who is the man who backs tnem fur-
nishes the money for them? Al don't know.
O-You have not heard Of that2 A.-No.
Did you ever hear about Mr.. Mahoney? A
% Did YOU ever hear of Mr.. Sullivan? A.-No.
O-Never heard Of him. A.-No.
0-Never heard Of y. D. sullivan? A.-hes. IN
regard TO politics. ,,.. 80, .oii,i,,
hay hos I'd