The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1899-02-17

OF order. arguing that after the decision
yesterday the chair must hold that the par
agraph was out of order. He admitted he
had himself voted yesterday to overrule the
chair, but his zeal for great enterprise and
his unfamliarity with the rule led him to
do that.
In the course of Mr.. Balls remarks Mr..
Cannon said that he thought the point Of
order was well taken, but he asked if Mr..
BAH would not vote for the appropriation
If the treaty were ratified.
Mr.. Ball said he would, but he deplored
the treaty and be would never vote to pay
money for the Philippines until the honor
Of the country demanded it.
Mr.. Cannon appealed to Mr.. Ball not TO
press the point of order and scored him for
taking refuge behind a rule which he yes
terday tried to override. He called atten-
ton to the fact that no dollar of this ap-
preparation could get out of the treasury
until the exchange of ratdcations had
been made.
Mr.. Lacey (Rep., la argued that the
paragraph was in order; that there was at
present condition of war, and this appro-
priation was necessary to terminate ii. Be-
sides, any treaty requiring a payment Of
money could not be completed until the
legislation appropriating that money be
made. They must go together.
Mr.. Crumpacker (Rep., Ind) took SINH
lar view.
Mr.. Gardner (Rep., N. J.) argued that the
Senate, by the Constitution. was the treaty
making power and that the House, by none
of its rules. could in any way block that
constitutional prerogative.
Mr.. Hopkins. in the chair, at this point
announced that he was ready to rule. The
necessity for the appropriation he said, did
not arise until after the ratification had
taken place. He was, therefore, reluctantly
compelled to sustain the point of order.
Mr. williams Dem. Mass.) thereupon ap-
pealed from the decision. A spirited and
somewhat acrimonious debate followed upon
the appeal. The chair was sustained-14S to
56-and the paragraph went out Thereupon
Mr.. Cannon asked unanimous consent that
the paragraph be considered as adopted
This was for the purpose of locating def
nitely responsibility for failure to get the
appropriation in the bill. Mr.. Wheeler
promptly objected.
After the reading Of the bill had been
completed and the committee had risen,
Mr.. Hepburn moved to recommit the bill,
with the Nicaragua canal bill Incorporated
in it.
Mr.. Cannon raised the point of order that
the motion was out of order and was
promptly sustained by the speaker.
"On what grounds?" asked Mr.. Hepburn.
Upon the grounds that 1t seeks to ac-
complish indirectly what could not be done
directly in committee of the whole.
Mr.. Hepburn appealed from the decision
and Mr.. Payne moved to table the appeal.
The yeas and nays were demanded and the
roll was called. This motion was made by
Mr.. Hepburn to force the members upon
record. The vote resulted 81 yeas to 81 nays;
present, s. A quorum not having voted the
speaker, under the rules, ordered a call Of
the House. Pending that Mr. Underwood
(Dem., Ala.) moved an adjournment The
motion was resisted by those who were op-
posing the incorporation of the canal bill in
the sundry civil bill. The canal bill sup
porters wanted a breathing space until to-
morrow. The motion was carried-71 to &C.
and, at 6:10, the House adjourned.