The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-28

dSFeeQ 10 pay all the losses OIL the pa
per for five months and have virtual
control of it during these five months,
there is no significance about it at all,
according to your idea? No, not unless
you put 2. Jackson construction on it
and then you can make significance out
of anything, 1 presume
REPRESENTATIVE SMITHS PRESS
Redirect examination by Mr.. Dick
son:
With reference to Representative
Smith, you met him shortly after the
legislature convened? Yes, sir; 1 don't
know exactly the time, but it was with
in a week 1 think, anyway.
Did he make any proposition to sell
a printing press to you? Yes, sir.
1 wish you would state what the con-
versation was you had With Mr.. Smith?
He came into my rooms and he asked
to see me alone and 1 went into the
north room with him, the front room,
and he told me that his wife was in
delicate condition, that her lungs was
affected and that he wanted TO move
her away from this climate; he wanted
to go to Arizona-in fact 1 know that
is the state he mentioned
Mr.. Evans-Do you call that evidence,
Mr. Dickson?
Mr. Dickson-I certainly do, impeach-
ing evidence.
Mr.. Evans-If it is impeaching, why
don't you put the question to him?
Go ahead? And he stated that he had
this press and knew that 1 was inter-
ested in The Herald; 1 don't know
whether he said interested in The Her
aid or owned The Herald-he mentioned
The Herald in connection and he asked
,;Ie if 1 didn't think it would be good
plan to start a branch of The Herald
there to print on this press; l laughed
at him and told him it was a hard game
to make The Herald hold its own here
and that the morning papers reached
ogden about as early from here as they
would if he had a branch there, and
that was pretty near the whole of 1t;
he talked on a little bit and eaid he
would like to have sold out the press
if he could, that he wanted to move 10
Arizona.
By the way, do you know whether or
not Mr.. r. c. Chambers. who was sena-
tor 1 believe two years ago. was
supporter of yours at that time? Yes,
sir; he would have been if l had en-
tered the race.
Do you know that from personal con-
versation? Yes, sir; he had promised
me that.
cross-examination by Mr.. Evans:
He voted for Rawlins all the time?
Yes; there wasn't a vote cast for me IN
the Legislature.
And this r. C. Chambers is the same
Chambers that is now senator? Yes,
sir: same man.
The long term senator? Yes, sir.
By Mr.. Thurman:
You say he voted for RawlinS all the
time That is immaterial.
The Witness-No; he didn't vote for
Rawlins all the time: 1 just dropped
that in speaking quickly, as he voted
for Thatcher 1 guess longer than he did
for Rawlins.
BY Mr.. Dickson:
Did he speak to you at that time
about entering the race? Oh; had lots
of conversations with him.
Was he DESTROYS that you should en-
ter the race? Yes; if the time came
around properly, that if it was conceded
that neither RawlinS nor Thatcher
could be elected.
BY Mr.. Evans:
He thought a little about going into
the race himself, a little, at that time?
He denied it always to me.
Had q little bee in his bonnet, the
same as the rest Of US? Yes; he de
MED it to me, though the public said
that he had.
Did he? Yes.
Mr.. Van Cott-Do you claim that Mr..
Chambers has been improperly ap-
preached?
Mr.. Evans-why, Mr.. Van Colt, I
shall claim whatever 1 think the con-
tract warrants; and nothing more.
Mr.. Van Cotton, well, We will call
him, then.
MR.. CHAMBERS TESTIMONY.
r. C. Chambers, being sworn as a
witness in behalf of the defense, testl-
fled as follows:
Examined by Mr.. Dickson:
Have you ever received from Mr.. Nc
Cune, or anybody else, directly or indi-
rectly, any consideration or promise OF
consideration for your support of him
as a candidate for the United States
senate? 1 have not.
Cross-eXaminatiOn by Mr.. Evans:
On the 18th day of October last, you
entered into a contract with Mr.. Nc
Cune. didn't you? What about?
Written contract, by. which he was
to pay the losses, all the losses of The
Herald for the months of October, No
vember, December, January and Feb
ruary? Yes, about that time, L think l
did.
What was the consideration in that
why was he to pay the losses? The con-
sideration was this, that l appealed 10
a good many Democrats to help out,
that | had told him l had carried that
property for a good while, two or three
years, at a loss to myself, and that
thought that the party or the leading
men of the party and those that were
able to should assist in carrying its de-
felt.
That was the only consideration,
wasn't it? That was the only consid-
GRAFTON. yes. sir.
How much were these losses monthly
about that time? About two thousand
dollars.
About two thousand dollars a month?
Well, it varied from twelve hundred to
twenty hundred.
From twelve hundred to twenty hun
dred? Yes; some months wouldn't be
over nine to eleven.
And. according TO this contract, Mr..
McCune was to stand those losses? The
most was about two thousand.
Well, it would average fifteen hun
dred. wouldn't it? Perhaps it would.
Wei, Mr.. McCune was TO Day-then,
if it averaged fifteen hundred dollars
month, Mr.. McCune, for five months,
Mr.. McCune would have TO pay all that
sum, would he not? He would have to
advance that sum.
He would have to advance that sum
to pay it, wouldn't he? Yes.
Constant loss, and lose it? Yes.
In other words, he would lose sew
enty-five hundred dollars in those five
months? Yes.
1t would average that much? Yes.
For what purpose; just for the privi-
lege of losing it? 1t was to support
the paper, assisting the party.
You knew he was q candidate for the
United States senate before that time?
! supposed he would be.
You supposed he would be? Yes.
And this paper was to be controlled
by him in his interest, was it not? No,
sir; il was not.
Didn't ne have, under this contract,
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