The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-26

what you estimate your wealth 10 be?
refuse to answer that, sir; it is none
of your business and nothing to do with
this case.
You get a little warm about that, do
you? 1 do.
You refuse to answer that? 1 do.
Have you ever been arrested for any
crime? Never for any crime; 1 was ar
rested once.
What for? 1t was when I was a
young man, moving hay in Nephi; L
was arrested on the charge If selling
liquor to Indians on the reservation.
without a license, or something of that
kind the charge was; have forgotten
what it was; 1 was in the bayfield, at
the time. Arthur Pratt came down af-
ter me great many years ago.
What is your business, Mr.. McCune?
All around, almost anything and ev-
erything.
Have you any occupation that you
have chosen? Mining, you may say;
railroading, street railroads, steam
railroads, and interested in a hardware
store, jewelry store, and 1 couldn't go
on to enumerate the other things; large
sheep ranch down here at Juab.
When did you first conceive the no
ton of becoming a candidate for the
United States senate? Two years ago.
Two years ago? Yes, sir.
You remember the contest Of two
years ago. Yes. sir; part of it.
When Mr.. Rawiins was a senatorial
candidate and Mr.. Thatcher? Do you
remember. during that time, saying to
Mr.. John Q. Cannon and two or three
others in this city. while that contest
was going on, that if Mr.. Rawlins
would turn over the votes which he had
to you, that you would take your money
and you would buy the rest of the SIS
of BIS and be elected in less than a
day? No, sir; 1 do not.
You don't remember saying that? 1
do not.
Did you say it? I did not
Did you say anything that purported
to be Nothing whatever.
To be such as 1 have stated to you?
Not a word Of that kind that could be
possibly construed into anything of
that sort.
How many votes did you start with.
in this senatorial contest? 1 think 1
had eleven on the first ballot.
You didn't lose any. did you. after
that; you kept steadily increasing. did
you not? That 1 couldn't say, but my
impression is that did.
That you kept steadily increasing?
Yes. sir.
As fast, as rapidly as you secured
these votes, isn't it a fact that you
pledged every one of them in writing to
stay with you? No. sir; never was
such a thing done from that lime TO
this. The only writing that I know of
them ever signing was that letter that
was published in the paper.
NOBODY PLEDGED.
You say, then, that these men have;
not been pledged in writing as fast as
you secured them? No, sir; not In
writing or verbally.
Not one of them? Not one.
You supposed you were going to be
elected on Saturday, the 18th inst, did
you? Yes, sir.
On what ballot did you think you
would be elected? The first ballot You
mean, abiding to the Saturday, a week
ago today?
Yes, sir. On first ballot 1 expected
to he elected.
Did you have any doubt about it?
Not much.
Did you have any doubt at all? Oh.
there is always 2 chance for doubt
that somebody might be sick or away
or something of that kind. To say that
had an absolute certainty when only
had the exact number of votes pledged
to me, 1 couldn't say that was a GER
tainty.
You did have some doubt in your
mind? Always have doubt, sir; if 1
had thirty-five promised, 1 would have
some little lingering doubt until the
ballot was cast.
You We're naturally interested, then,
in securing as many votes as you
could? Yes, sir.
Did you talk with Ny. Rideout and
Mr.. Stewart about this matter? Yes,
sir
on Friday night? Yes. sir
In the presence of Moses Thatcher?
Yes, sir.
Isn't it a fact that they told YOU at
that time that if you could Fetain your
original twenty-eight. they would vote
for you sometime during the progress
of the balloting? No. sir.
What did they say? They said they
would vote for me the next dav.
And did they say that without any
qualification whatever? Possibly there
may have been the qualification that
[ had my twenty-eight votes that had
been staying with me.
Well, that is exactly what 1 asked
you, if that wasn't a fact? No; don't
think it was specified. because there
wasn't any question of a doubt about
the twenty-eight votes.
But that was the qualification, wasn't
it, that if you had the twenty-eight
votes that had been staying with you,
might have been; 1 wouldn't say that
l am clear.
1 want to refresh your recollection
upon that; isn't it a fact that Senator
Rideout called your particular atten-
ton to that fact? No, sir; he did not.
He did not? No, sir.
Or Mr.. Stewart? No, sir; that never
was mentioned, but 1 am under the
impression that it was put in such a
way that they did not seem to be in
doubt in regard to the twenty-eight
votes.
That was the only reason, was it not,
why you were SO very particular about
having Henry Peery there? No, I
wanted as many Democratic votes as
could get there to vote for me-
You were very DESTROYS of having |
Peery there, were you not? Yes, sir.
And sent Mr.. Dunbar to see him? I
didn't send Mr.. Dunbar; Mr.. Dunbar |
went voluntarily on his own part.
ELECTION WAS SURE.
SO that everything was arranged on
Friday night, so that you believed you |
would be elected on Saturday morning? |
Yes, sir.
What time did you come to the head |
quarters that morning? 1 couldn't tell |
that exactly; somewhere about nine or |
half past, probably.
Who all were present when you ar |
rived there? 1 couldn't tell you that.
Couldn't tell US that? No, sir.
Do you remember anybody? oh, yes. |
Who was it? 1 remember seeing Mr.. |
Dunbar, and I remember seeing Fisher |
Harris around: 1 couldn't tell just |
when, as passed through the room and |
took my coat off and he came in there |
and 1 said Good morning" there were
several people there; who they were I |
couldn't say; there was generally half |
4 dozen or a dozen around.
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