The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-19
TESTIMONY OF MILTON
]. GREEN RESUMED

The chairman-Mr. Green, in the con-
duct of the campaign for Mr. Grants SEN
atorial aspirations had you the authority
from Mr.. Grant to conduct campaign in
such manner as your Judgment would die
tate?
A. Absolutely
c. Was it your custom, in conducting
that campaign, to consult frequently with
Mr.. Grant about the matter?
A. No, sir.
Q. And in the payment of any money
that you might consider legitimate eX-
penses for his campaign, or illegitimate,
that you saw fit?
A / must except to the last part of the
question
O. There is no question yet, Mr.. Green.
In the matter of the expenditure of any
money on behalf of the campaign of Mr..
Grant were you authorized to use your
own judgment exclusively in the matter
OF how 1t should be expended and for
what purpose?
A. Yes, sir. Excepting that 1 knew it
must be within the legitimate scope of a
regular campaign. For Mr. Grant made
that positive statement, that he was per-
fectly willing to have me incur proper
and legitimate expenses in conducting his
campaign; but that he had no desire
whatever to purchase his seat in the Sen
ate
@. When did that conversation occur?
Before or after the campaign opened?
A. think it was the first conversation
| ever had with him in San Francisco
November, 1897 .4--
Q. Now, in the conduct Of that cam
paign, | understood you to say last night
that you had expended money prior to-
the primaries and subsequent to the pri-
maries. Is that correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And in the expenditures you expend-
ed money in the different districts where
in the legislators were elected?
A. Yes, sir. In some cases where they
were not elected.
Q. Did you keep memorandum at any
time of the times and places that you eX-
pended money in that way?
A. Not complete memorandum; no,
sir.
Q. Are you able at this time to tell all
the places in which you paid money?
A. No, sir; 1 am not.
Q. You can some of them I suppose?
A. Oh think so.
Q. Kindly detail to the committee the
different districts in which you expended
money in behalf of the legislators who
were to be elected.
A Now gentlemen
Mr.. Bacon-Just wait, Mr.. Green. Mr..
Chairman, 1 object to that question on this
ground: That so far as ME- Green's tes-
timony has gone, and so far as the testi-
mony of any other witness has gone here,
1t has not been shown that there has
been one dollar of money illegitimately
expended in this campaign of Mr.. Grants
The chairman-That is the point we are
after.
Mr. Bacon-Now, the question that YOU
put at this time we object to as being
immaterial. We might just as well ask
every man in the State-it is Just exactly
as pertinent to ask every man in this
State whether he made a journey down
in Southern California and went to some
expense in the interest of some candi-
date for office. Because we regard i'll
think it is regarded by everybody that
it is not only proper, and not only fair
and honest, but it is absolutely proper
that a candidate for United States Sena-
tor should contribute money to the cam
paign expenses; and he is generally re-
So and very often it is made a matter OF
comment - favorable comments upon the
candidacy of any man that he has con-
tributed money to the campaign expenses.
The chairman-As a general proposition
that is conceded. No doubt about that.
Mr.. Bacon-Now, Mr.. Green has said
that Mr.. Grant told him to make this
campaign and that he was willing to
spend money to make this campaign. Mr..
Green says that they put the money into
this legislative fight, but with the distinct
understanding that there should be abso-