The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-21
NEVER GOT DRUNK.

III AAAC 4LuQcICG OF LUuGE. w nen L
could notice it myself?
When your acquaintances noticed it?
None of them ever told me of it,
/ We'll. you know whether you were or
not in condition that those acquaint-
ed with you were likely TO notice it?
L never noticed it myself.
You have been. so far as your mem
ory serves you, duly sober during the
whole session of the legislature? Well.
what do you call duly sober?
Oh, you know what / mean If you
say entirely sober. Will say no.
Have You been drunk? No sir.
Been intoxicated? ] have been under
the influence of liquor. whisky.
! 80 TAR Is to affect your conversation
or your memory? No. sir.
! Never was under the influence Of
/ liquor, but what you had your senses
| about you, and knew everything you
were saying? Yes. sir.
| And everything that was being said
! 10 you? If it was said so 1 could hear
it.
WHAT HE SAID TO TRIBUNE RE-
PORTER.
| Yes, of course. Three weeks. or four
weeks ago last evening. Sunday even
ing, We're you not in the HOgIe Bros
saloon; didn't you have a conversation
I there with Johnny Quillan about the
United States senatorship, and with
Carl Hard of the Tribune reporter?
-Four weeks ago last night?
Either three or four weeks ago last
sunday; l am not sure which? What
day of the month would that be?
don't remember; it is either three
weeks ago last Sunday evening. or four
weeks ago last Sunday evening Well.
the question is indefinite: there was
one of those Sundays 1 was in Cache
county
Well. on any Sunday about that time
We're you in HOgle Bros saloon in the
evening. and do you remember a con-
Versaron there with Johnny oUillan
and the young man I have mentioned?
/ have been in there on Sunday even
ing, l believe.
And have a conversation with the
parties l have mentiOned2 1 don't
know those parties; I may have had
such conversation, or some conversa-
ton.
While you may not know the names
of them. you knew the barkeeper in
Hogle Bros here in the city? Yes,
sir.
Well. I mean one of the barkeepers,
and Carl Hard? 1 say that | don't
know whether 1 held conversation
with them
About the United States senatorship?
You were standing at the bar. Mr. Hard
standing behind YOU and Mr.. Quillan
behind the bar. facing you? [ may
have held some conversation with
these parties
Didn't you, in d conversation had
there on Sunday evening. either three
or four weeks ago last evening. say,
''McCune will never be elected to the
senate? I don't remember whether L
said that or not.
i am going TO spring a Montana SEN
sation on him before he shall be
elected?" No, sir
Nothing of that kind? 1 don't re-
member ever using any such words
Do You say you did not? 1 say 1
don't remember il.
Win you say You did not? You have
always been sober; you have always
been in 4 state of sObriety. which
would enable you to remember? Yes,
sir.
VIII you say that YOU did not. in the
presence of those two gentlemen. say:
''McCune will never be elected TO the
senate: we Will spring a Montana SEN
sation on him before that?" l don't
think I ever said that.
VIII you say do did not say it?
don't ever remember saying such
words.
MEMORY FAILS LAW.
VIII you say you did not say it? I
can't remember that far back-a con-
versatiOn three weeks ago.
You cannot remember three weeks
back? 1 can't remember everything
that 1 said in a conversation three
weeks ago.
Did YOU ever say that to anybody,
that before McCune shall be elected
United States senator. we will spring Il
Montana sensation on him? l don't
think l ever did.
viii you say you never did? 1 want
he UpTfaCrlT hnTneSf-
oh, of course; we all understand that,
Mr.. Law. I never remember saying any
such words. although I may have said
them; and l don't want to perjure my
self in any way whatever.
OF course not. But you cannot say
that you did not make a remark of that
<ind2 l say that l cannot remember
what may have-what 1 may have said
n 4 conversation held three weeks ago.
That would be a Very-yOu realize Mr.
Law, an intelligent man as your are,
hat that would be very significant
remark for you to make? Yes. and that
s just the reason why I say that I
lon't think I ever said it.
1t is a remark that you would not be
likely TO make lightly? No, sir.
And yet you cannot say-you think
hat you did not make that statement
No. sir; wouldn't positively swear thaS
didn't say something like that, al
hough-
That before don't remember any
hing of the kind.
that before McCune shall be
elected 10 the senate we viii spring a
Montana sensation on him? No I
lever remember saying those words
But you might have2 l say I cannot
emember everything that took place in
conversation three weeks ago. and [
wouldn't positively swear that 1 didn't
ay that, although L don't remember it,
nd don't admit it.
And yet the thought of springing a
dontana sensation on him never Oc-
urred to you until last Friday? No.
ir: never took definite form in my
mind until last Friday
Never took definite form? No. sir
IDEA LONG TIME INDEFINITE.
II had three or four weeks ago taken
Indefinite form in your mind? l said I
Ouldn't remember when this thought
rst occurred to my mind.
Had it as long as three weeks ago oc-
Indefinitely, in your dreams or in your
-aking hours? L CAM remember all
he dreams I have had for three weeks.
Well, we will come back to your wax
lg hours then; had that thought,
hen you were awake or in the pos
sssiCn of your senses, ever occurred to
GU Indefinitely or in any other way as
ing ago as three weeks? 1t may have.
ut say again. /. don't remember.
Mr. McCune according to vol1r- for