New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-17
Q.-You want to have him tell II FIRST so - - -
what you are TO say? A.-Oh. no.
TELLS MOSS To KEEP COOL.

.Suv,M,sli; uont care wnether you VIII or no<
9,-If You take that position. why should you
Don't shout Mr., Moss. Keep cool,
voted ia rei you bi anything against him when you
O., 3,,Were you voting under instructons7 Al
o-Were You voting under the orders OF Mr. Car
rolf Al won't answer It, No. wasn't ! will
Q.-why will you answer that and not the otherss
Aust because felt like answering that
lie dues-do what you please and leave undons
what you please? Allow did you do It?
Q-I hope you are not setting yourself by me.
and hope you are setting for yourself a much
satisfied with what was being done. and you started
In to do for yourselves. and trust you Will not
had you against Mr.. McCuIagh as a man. as Z
police Official when you voted TO retire him? A.
WHY HE REMOVED MCCLLAGH
o-How can he know what you had against hint
Ask him.
Q-Mr Sexton you had nothing against Mr.
McCuagh? A.-There is no necessity Of shaking
your finger at
Q.-Answer the question. A-Keep cool. Mr..
Moss
Q.-Mr Sexton. you knew that Mr.. Mccullash
was an efficient police officer didn't you? (Tie does
not answer)
Q-And do you mean that the Legislature Of the
State and the people OF New-York shall take you
at your word that when asked by proper authority.
in proper way. to give your reasons for removing
,,o-Wll you give them? Al told you ask Mr..
9t.,wIIl you give them fem shall ask Mr. MccuI-
Q-But you are entitled to give your explana-
ton? A.-You ask Mr. Mccuagh.
and YOU ought 10 make an explanation You are
a public officer and the people ought TO know and
duties as a public officer? l think that is a fair
question that you should answer.
Chief. Devery was my friend, and | wanted to
make him Chief OF Police and l retired Mccui-
oEYou retired McCulagh in order. to make
Devery Chief OF Police. who was your friendT n
Q~How long hao he been your friend A.
o"And Farrell was his friend and your friendf
se 9mf0s sn Fu thst 80, AYe were al s"
Q-Yes. and so you determined that there was
V %as to- T"e remove mSy < ac %ah Yes
o-And You want to be perfectly fair, as I
ns against ySS GS a hmssf won't
whether had or not; am not making me, n sta,e-
ment about McCullagh. He is out or the Depars
ment now.
NO CHARGE AGAINST MCULLAGH.
OFF YOU had no accusation to make against Mr..
McCullagh either a police officer or as man.
we give you now a full opportunity TO do III A.
l won't make any,
o-You won't make any? A.-No; l am not
that kind.
Q-You are not that kind: what do you mean by
that? Al don't know. II you don't understand
it won't tell you: ,,rdors,sna N.
peculiar eG ineeoa you put on that word
That Is something ! never learned an" ~"
understand It? Ais that sol
The Chairman-Mr Moss. MI Sexton t nas as -
signed his reasons for removing McGu, ,h;nt
because he wanted Devery put on. ana l ,hinx
If that is the answer he wants on the reco''
M" Mr. MossSi want Mr.. sexton to state everything
times when a witness thinks little he can answer
further ., s .o,d bs can n,ake
any statement he wishes , III. =.
The Witness-If YOU act a LITTLE more hKe
gentleman, perhaps | might act peter ..s,.-
Mr Moss am aware my gentlemany STANDING
is not very high A.. ,,-,o ,or asked Mr. Nc
Cuilagh to transfer Mr. Mcconnell? Al guess "
was - -. ~ noco,reu -vvruL-
ferredo Al told you before told you rfrre
times I won't answer that question
.o-wOuld the answer tend to degrade your A.
0-would It tend to ncriminate you? A-No.
0-Was II not because Mr. Mcconnell had at-
tempted 10 close the pooroom OF your ,rs s 3D.
Farrell that you asked the o Test 10 oeson. HIN
Ono. no; answer the question A'-fou kno"
O-Answer the question.
The Chairman-One moment. MI MOSS NV r ,xS-
ton. you need not 90 into any argumeh, WIN
The Wness-what right has he got to ask such
a question? FL
The Chalrman--re has right 10 ask the ques-
ton and you answer IT, unless you 90 hoe
want TO go on record What Is the answer A.
No.
Odd YOU know that Mr.. Mcconnell had gone
TO Mr. Farrelrs pooroom? Al didn't know that
Mr. Farrell had poolroom. and didn't know MI
Mcconnell and wouldn't know him II ne came IN
u" o@You never heard that? Al did not know
that Mr. Farrell had poolr1om CON- h, 20 - he came
!" % . What was it that induced you to interfere IN
the matter OF a poor policeman VINO was do3ink
his duty and have him transferred? Al d'dnt
o.-You asked TO have. him. transferred? Al
don't recoIlect anything about him ~ 49,,
lash with reference to McConneil-are you really
sure about that? Al tell you could not answer
that question. You ask McCullagh that question,
You state now that YOU don't recollcct 10
you mean that? Mo ] spoke to him about It.
04 oIIsD't It fact that you asked Mr. Mcculssh
a@ o"You SAY say yes9 Ayes; think dls
9-You think you dia? A 'n was not a' GOOD
policeman? A.-You ask Mr.. Mccullash that que'-
o. am asking you. Al won't answer that
GIVES LAME EXCUSE
Mr.. Moss-wen, for the sake OF the record.
think the Chairman must direct the witness to
answer that question.
The Chairman-Read the question TO the witness
The Stenograple Geading)-Was 1t because NC
Connell was not a good policeman? 49,
The chaIrman-Read the whole OF the question
and 49,, A.
The Stenographer reading)-You ask MI DC.
Cullaeh that OIL am asking you Al WON'T
that. - -. -
The Chairman-The question that has been askss@
ia whether you asked McCullagh to have hcSonnen
transferred bee he was not go2d p,'ons
THE committed direct TO answer that uucstionf
Al heard some stories about Mcconnell
Mr. Moss-What stories did you hear about Nc
ConneilY Al don't recolect what they were ,uss
now. ,..-.. - AZ. ~
The Chairman-Were they derogatory 70 MI MO
(,onnelrs conduct as a policeman? Ayes
O-You do not recall what they were? A.-No.
Q.-Contnue IT. general way; can you s'"'~
what N was? A-No: | don't recall IT,
O-You do not recall what particularly IL ,was
which affected his conduct az an ofhcerg A--No'
do not. -. -.
Q.-Then II because OF those stories that YOU
heard derogatory TO his acts as a policeman tnat
Won asked FOR his transfer? Ayes.
o.-That is your recollection OF It now? Ayes.