The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1899-03-10
SETS HIMSELF RIGHT
ARCHBISHOP IRELAND, OF ST.
PAUL, DISCUSSES "HECKERISM"
AND THE CHURCH
RESPECTS MONAsTIC vows
Opposed Only to ParochiaI or Edu-
catiOnal EncrOachments of the
Irregular" Upon the "Secular"
CIergy-DiRerence with the
Jesuits-May BE a Peace Ennis
- sary-Red Hat for ireland.

LONDON. March 10.-The Rome cor
respondent of the Daily Chronicle tel
egraphs the substance of an interview
he has had with Archbishop Ireland.
in which the latter explains his atti-
tude toward "Heckerism'' and his
course during the Spanish-American
war. He described Archbishop Ire
land as having the stern, benevolent
face of an apostle" and as terribly In
earnest" remarking that the following
colloquy may be taken as a message
to his friends and reply to the mis-
representations which, though unin-
territorial. he considers damaging to a
great cause. The correspondent con-
tinues:
Archbishop Ireland showed a reluct-
lance to enter upon discussion of del
icate questions which, as he observed,
only time can clear up, but he said he
accepted this opportunity to dispel
wrong views and to give in nutshell
the maXims considered essential to the
well working of the church.
MEANING OF HECKERISM.
THE archbishop then proceeded in
this wise:
Let me begin by dissecting the
new word Heckerism. 1 knew Father
Hecker well, and like other great minds
q he had views peculiar to himself. One
of these was the direct inspiration Of
the Holy Ghost. This apparently dar-
ing doctrine meant little more than
that Cody help is not wanting to those
displaying initiative. I frequently told
him he was ambiguous and would be
misunderstood, and this has happen
ed
Archbishop Ireland, proceeding to
explain the Importance attached to the
natural virtues, said:
1--WE maintain, especially regarding
the clergy, that temperance and truth
fulness, for instance, are so necessary
that they cannot be replaced by any
purely devotional fidelity. An intem-
perate priest sterilizes his mission. A
priest who stretches personal casuistry
to prevarication and mental reserve
only justif1es the enemies of the church
in affilmations which, though false, are
heard far and wide
RESPECTS MONASTIC VOWS.
The archbishop then warmly pro-
tested against what he described as
the groundless charge that he is mimi
cal to the religious orders. He said he
believed there was no nobler Ideal con-
ceivabie than the monastic vows, but
he objected to parochial or educational
encroachments of the regular clergy
Chose identified with religious orders
Or bound by monastic vows upon the
Secular clergy Chose not so identified
or bound). The episcopacy and its
subhierarchy were, he said, the real
foundation Of ecclesiastical work.
Referring to the attempts the Jes-
ufts had made In the United States to
prevent the establishment Of the Cath
plic university at Washington, he said:
They wanted it themselves, but
the pope pointedly warned me to al
low the American bishops to be caught
In their tolls. My views on this sub
ject are Identical with the late Cardi-
nal Manning's. To insinuate that
-Americanism means the transfer
ance of the religious orders to
the melting pot is a calumny. They
have produced countless saints and
have their exalted mission, but Catho-
lies require a priesthood deeply i'm
bued with national and church vir-
tues
ANISH-AMERICAN WAR.
with reference to the war, Arch
bishop Ireland said:
Before 1t broke out was pro-Span-
ish, but when hostilities commenced I
forgot everything except that was an
American citizen, annointed to love
and serve my country
He could say nothing regarding the
. disarmament congress. He might be
one of two representatives, or there
might be another or other higher So
luton.