The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01

would have his interest looked after
and thinlSI mentioned in that connec-
ton that Mr.. McCune was a man thai
would not pigeonhole a letter from any
one of his constituents.
And that was in answer to a sug-
gestion made by Mr. Lapish that Nc
Cune probably was a man who did not
attend TO matters of constituents here
unless they were prominent people:
/ Yes, sir.
Did you say in that conversation any
thing like this: IF McCune were elect
ed senator, that would aid Lapish in
having his invention adopted by the
railroads No, sir; l never did make
any such statement.
/ OTHERS WE'RE PRESENT.
Cross-examination by Mr.. Dey:
Were you alone with Mr.. Lapish on
that occasion? ! think not; l think
there were a number of others in the
room.
There We're? Who We're they? As I
recall the incident, there was Mr. For
mani don't know that 1 can recall all
OF them-and that Mr.. Greenwood and
some others-I don't believe I can re-
call them.
Do you remember if anybody came
IN with Mr.. Lapish? l am not clear
mat l remember who came in with
Mr.. Lapish; L don't know whether 1
saw anybody come in.
You didn't see him when he came in,
MI Dunbar? I don't recall now that
1 did
In which room was this CONVERSE
ton? Wen, this particular conversa-
/ uon, as l remember ii, was in the
north room of the headquarters.
The two north rooms? There are
two north rooms
Which one of the two north rooms?
think it was the one fronting west
fronting the street? Yes.
Was Mr.. McCune present? / think
not.
Did anybody but you and Mr.. La
pish participate in the conversation?
don't recall now that anybody else did
participate.
Could the others hear it that were
present? Wen, l apprehend that prob
ably some of them could have heard
some of our talk.
Who opened the conversation be-
tween you and Mr.. Lapish? 1 think
in all probability, did
Was this in the evening or day time?
1t was in the evening
In the evening. What did you say
| IN opening that conversation? Well, l
! don't know that | can recall the exact
words. was very glad to see Mr.. La
pish there and so stated; glad to have
him come and visit the headquarters.
1 think I stated to him that was very
anxious to see him and discuss the SEN
atorial question with him.
Prior to that time you had been in
formed of this patent? 1 think few
days before that Mr.. ByWater had made
this remark about it,
And in this conversation you had a
special motive, as | understand you, to
disabuse the mind of Mr. Lapish of any
wrongful intention? Yes; I had the
idea
How did you get that idea that some
thing wrong had been said to Mr..
Lapish? Well, l only got it from Mr..
Bywater's statement, in telling me. He
had discussed this invention with Mr..
Bywater, or suggested asking me about
the railroad people.
What did Mr.. ByWater say that led
you to infer that some wrongful influ-
ence might me intended by it-by that
remark? Well Bywater said he
thought il would be a good idea for
Mr.. McCune, having relations such as
he did have, with railroad people, to
send over for the master mechanic. as
recall the official term, and have him
meet Mr.. Lapish at the headquarters
there and look over this invention. It
was his judgment it was a good thing.
Who was present? Well, now, don't
recall.
Mr.. McCune? No; Mr.. McCune was
not present.
Who was? I think that conversation
occurred on the sofa, between Mr.. By
water and myself.
Just few days before that meeting
with Mr.. Lapish? Yes, sir.
Don't you know that Mr.. Greenwood
brought Mr. Lapish in? I think that
is very probable he did.
Had you had any talk with Mr..
Greenwood about this patent? No.
Or had any between you and Mr.. By
water? No.
What led you to suppose that this
private conversation between you and
Mr.. Bywater that you referred to, on
the subject of this patent, and calling
in the master mechanic, was known
any further? Was known any further?
Yes; or known to Mr.. Lapish? Well,
I inferred, from the way MIR. Bywater
made the statement to me, that he had
discussed this same thing with Mr..
Lapish.
In what way? OF getting the master
mechanic of the railroad over to our
headquarters to look at Mr.. Lapishs
invention.
And you thought that was not the
proper way to DO it? I didn't think it
was an improperly While there might
not have been anything bad about it,
it might have been construed that
way.
A MERE INCIDENT.
You considered it would be better and
safer for you to talk to Mr.. Lapish
yourself upon that subject? No; that
was a mere incident in our talk about
this invention here. Our chief discus
sion was on the candidates, on Judge
NT,-
said before, I repeat it again, the only
motive 1 had in referring to this ques-
ton at all was that l thought perhaps
MIR. Bywater's conversat ton with Mr..
Lapish might have left an impression
in his mind that we were trying to
interest him.
Your chief motive was, naturally. to
solicit or get the vote of Mr.. Lapish,
if possible? l discussed the candidates,
but l never asked Mr.. Lapish to vote
for Mr.. McCune.
That was the intent? 1t was in try
ing TO counterfeit the talk that was
being made against Mr.. MeCune, in
showing up Mr.. McCunes abilities and
his qualifications, and I confess l made
some contrasts and comparisons be-
tween him and other candidates.
All in favor of Mr.. McCUne? Yes, sir.
Now, you remember how the patent
matter was brought into that subject?
In our conversation?
Yes? Yes; remember very distinct
ly. 1 remember in discussing Mr.. Nc
Cune, and some of the things that were
said against him
Who started it? Mr.. Lapish was
bringing up certain arguments against
Mr. McCune.
am talking about the patent 1 am,
or shall be in a moment.
Who commenced that conversation
about the patent? l did.
You did? Yes.
Was anything said about prosecuting
his invention? No, sir; not that 1 re-
m ann her Of