New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-04-16

him sometimes7 A.-when he went into that COM
o-why do you decline to say whether or not not
You the the basis on when s' he went into it,
s 3Ss s in 1s so n|
tee 4 seems has made set against my two sons
go into business. I suppose you will do So 1.
The Chairman hardly think that statement Is
Platts rm, and and out What his boys are
people who brought YOU, here 70 examine us
is the sentieman"Mr Pat-wSo puts YOU here to
examine US You 20 ana CANINE his n in ' tSis
city. ! say that there Is more corruption In that
firm to-day. and i e run by all or mostly all the
in that firm than anywhere else You 20 and hey es
books here.
INSULTS THE COMMITTEE.
o-Now. Mr.. Croker. all that matter that you
have spoken OF is In way concerned with the
local government in this city You make that mat
ter In any way pertinent to this inquiry, and will
examine into It. A The committee will throw
II off.
Croker A-You need not throw any bluffs at me.
Mr.. Moss-I am under no retainer from Mr. Platt
The Witness-You are looking for II now. by your
examination here. When this matter goes 70 the
Legislature you expect to be paid and Platts
Mr. Moss-i am less Interested In the matter OF
compensation in this business than am in the
business itself The matter OF compensation Is
The Witness-Mr. Moss. am only giving you my
opinion and | want to give II TO you honest
don't want 10 examine you-you are examining me
But I will not tell you about my private a1airs
try and examine him upon his private affairs-any
business man in this audence-and see II he Will
Mr. Moss-I think we understand each other. and
say to YOU said to YOU and say oo %
leader in knowing what your enemies are DONG
give me the needs -.
Mr.. Moss (continuing)-Gve me the needs showing
where these people are connected with the city de-
The Witness~They are taking all the corpora tons
Mr.. Platts firm are taking all the c9rpoTrauons
@ M the people would not give i to them The
people put us In charge OF the city departmeHnts
find one OF the city departments. or any one IN the
city department who IL doing wrong and tel me
and VIII be one OF the first persons 10 ne'p 10 get
Mr.. Moss-How about you. Mr.. Croker? ...
The Witness-f I have done wrong. In the CITY
departments-or II I have done wrong at aliIthe
city departments will discover IT, would not last
Mr.. Moes-Now. Mr. Croker. you have made your
address and we have your answer we are wb men
looking into each others eyes ana l mea" what
saw as much as you do
The Witness-vYes.
THE BOSS STILL STUBBORN.
O-Now then let us get down to business We
have discussed this matter. and have allowed the
discussion TO go on 80 that you might see the rea-
t!onship Of these matters and why IT was proper
matter 10 inquire into. A.-That IL my own private
answer. $500 A.. -o,ra
convict YOU OF a crime? A-No. Only don't want
to show that bad example against principe am
myssIf 7 think there is no law for 1t. no reason
for IT, why you should come down here and ex-
ANIME Mn M Hso y nave aeaay that and
you have said enough upon tnat POM, ou and
iha Of conrs ySae Of ms
Q.-The point OF the thing is this; You are d the
msnts and You are conducting the nzation.
not simply for political purposes out Tor wnat may
6 pfFGDsr as tsns put The city
city has departments which oversee the buaings;
flor fSn IN bunR when
methods Of freproof construction have oeen snus
INTO those concerns at critical time members Of
your own family. then It becomes an importa,n tan,
actually paid for their stock or whether they were
simply brought in because they were your sons
more. and I have made 1t clear to you are you
still unwilling 70 testify whether you gave your
Ss s the IN he l0F
Al won't answer the question direct. out VIII
Mr. MossNNo I want an answer direct or no
answer.
HE EvADES THE POINT.
Mr. Croker-The Roebling company is open for
competition and he Is In good. reputable COM
pany II is open for competition and II is GOOD
reputable company.
O-That is not an answer. Is that all the an
sver YOU are willing to make? Al don't want
Won 10 nut II in the minds OF the committee that
that company Is a patent company, and that ~ IS
not open to competition 1t Is open to competition
Mr. MossNow you are making speech again an,;
into that corporation That other matter was a
side Did YOU give your son the money e
won't answer that question. . ,,,., s
Mr. Moss-Now. then. you have II distinctly ,, ana
play viii obscure the situation.
will ask S dnner he Other h9ce
that at that dinner there were no Senators present
state Senator's -, A .ny tSe sr A-No sir
o.-Why not? A-Because their place was In
AI9anIs nd d Won told them so. didn't you? Ayes
o-And they obeyed you? Al think they y, did i'd
oring the memory of Jefferson. and OF eating a
good dinner because you told them tber state TO
DO you SUPPOSE they would have denied .d them
selves the patriotic privilege Of nonorihg
and the pleasure CT eating dinner In MS non1 S II
somebody had not directed them to tOsego
Al wanted to make sure. and did make sure
SAYS SENATORS "OBEY" HIM.
o-Rut YOU did give that advice and they obeyed
your Ayes
O-And so you lost the pleasure OF their COM
panv and they lost the pleasure OF your company
and we all missed their oratory? AIN the dis-
charge OF their duty. yes; Will STAND on 'ha.
Oft Is a fact then. that you do control the
physical movements OF the members OF the senate
on YOUR side OF the House? A-What KIND OF
movements?
o-The physical movements. A.-The physical
movements?
Q.-Yes. the physical movements. 10 you
d., Lrou what YOU call physical move
ments Let me know the meaning OF that To a,,
O.-The movements OF their bodies! Al uo'
Q.-You prevented them from coming d0wn k from
Albany? A-Their bodies were where they likeos;
a " Bnt II they could not move them into the
Ne;rnnolitan Opera House at your dinner A.
They could have II they wished -. .-
a : mi they were advised not TO? A;-Ihey were
advised and probably they did 1t on their own ae-