New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-06-01

| nu. .ha ,ron,cat,on on Mr. Moss that he deliber-
steiy and Intentionally allowed false testimony
| TO be brought out? Al do right here ana VIII
] assume the responsibility
Q-One moment. VIII you nave the cou''e'' "
| hear me out? Ayes, SIR
The Chairman-Mr Moss has stated ana KNOW
| from personal knowledge that neither ne noi
ever had an opportunity to examine those o'o''e''
| They were volumnous, and we had other "a''ei
! to talk about at the time that tesumohs was
| produced here. and know he ola not anu ui'
| not have an opportunity to examine those o'o''e'
Aro ,ou willing 10 believe my statement 10 that
| erect, Il am taking your statement VIII you
| hear me out?
The Chairman-Yes.
The Wtness-Then I viii have 10 carry you oaci,
some years, and show you where that man allowed
a man 10 commit perjury before the Grand jury
nj, shn,v tho records of the Grand Jury. want
| % chou this mans true character / am mere
| against Frank Moss, and tell you. Mr. Maze''
and that is plain.
The Cbairman-we have nothing TO do with that
| Mr. Henderson, think Mr.. Price can hand Mr.
| Moss that statement now .
The Witness-I can give him every Heh' out II
! Will take time to do II.
| OF am giving Won warming and you shall have
| every opportunity and every courtesy here ana
| all have to say about your personal statements
is you know they not the truth, ana am
not going to consider them. If you had evidence
of such things you say, II was your uu'y W
have had me indicted
Tba Cha,rman-Proceed with the examination Of
the witness We VIII have no discussions between
counsel
| The Witness-Go ahead.
O.-You needn't sit there and glare at me and
stick your chin out. Sit back You look more hand
some that way.
The Witness-Yes.
The Chairman-Proceed.
Price-Go ahead.
Mr. Moss-Sit up. and treat me courteously.
PRICE SAYS HE FEELS BETTER.
The Chairman-we will see that everybody is pro-
tected
The witness-I am willing to protect Frank Moss
and everybody In this room This is the first time
l spoke to you in eighteen years. had 1t on my
| stomach, and have given 1t to you. and given 1t
right
Q.-Now that you have 1t off your stomach l
hope you feel better.
| The Chairman-Proceed
Q.-Now you say you have taken measures to
close up Mr.. Elliss place? Al have got that
Q.-Buttner's place? A.-Buttners place is a
pawnshop, and the White Elephant Is closed. o,o.o,
BSttner's place. Place ANNo; my command takes the
Q.-You were the commander of the command?
Q.-How did you do it, A.-Put the officers there
on watch and arresting the men, ana prosecuting
Odd you ever have him convicted A-No'
Q.-And without getting any conviction, you have
succeeded in closing up that place by constant ef-
fort, is that IL? Ayes, sir.
Q.-And that effort has consisted in placing men
at the door continually and arresting the persons
plant yaueess Sc RNo no. arresng people
rousng there for the purpose of prostitution. PEG;
arresting the proprietor for violations OF the law;
oYog made lE to Tan te
going on there:
QWii you say the same Of the Ellis place 9TH, the
hasn't been in control OF his place in sxth-ave
for some months previous to the closing of II; but
y % 9 win The sss Ms to E Epha SG
Sixth-ave., between Twenty-eighth and Twenty
club license or club quor-tax certificate. No. ls
West Thirty nnth,st was large hathouse f tho
time you Police Commissioner. full OF prosti-
tutes every evening: you know that, lls West Thir
Owe are not talking about that? A.-No; but
you know the place mean; you made particular
fight on that You know the place mean-next the
Casino.
ELLIS NOT CONVICTED YET.
.o.-How did you succeed in closing, Mr. Ellis'ss
place? Al haven't got that place closed yet; I
hoSse s 70 s 6t
Q.-You got no conviction against Ellis, did your
A-Elis is waiting trial now
Q.-You did not get conviction? Ale is I'M
Q.-Answer the question? A.-Not yet.
Q.-Have you got conviction Of any one under
Q.-For the White Elephant? A.-No,
was pGs o eo fGSg
know What mean COrsys Hay1a5Tlke
s!xih-aye,t wasn't it? A.SNo; Go West T6rtleth
aTSs t%R C CUB 0s see here this clipping
from The Herald" ADO you want me TO ex-
Q.-Of March 9Th: broadway Garden forced to
close; Resort was WITHOUT proprietor or license
property said to be in the hands of brewery con:
Germ" and so forth Wasn't that placed closed up
S55g ha tS e nt mind By h,
that is the time told you we Closed it '''' '" v
Q.-This ARTISTIC Club. No. c. West Thirteth-st
kept by Samuel H. Dickard. did you close that up?
Q,-How did you succeed in closing that up? A
Did you get any conviction? Ayes.
o..what do you mean-male prostitutes? A
ra:SYes; put. did You get a conviction? A.
Odd you get Dckard convicted? Ale is
Odd you get him convicted? A.-No; he
o-Did you get his manager convicted? Ayes.
| Q-Who was that? A.-Fined the men that was
o.-Had the men found in that place fined for
Q-But did you have any one convicted for keep
| ing disorderly house? A.-No, not yet; the case
hasn't been disposed OF.
NO CONVICTION NEEDED.
/ Q.-without conviction you succeeded in closing
| four OF them up? Al have closed them all.
Q-There are three which have been talking
about. Al closed them all.
! Q-There are three? Active me credit for
! them all.
QNHave you closed those threeY A-which
! three. the Broadway Garden. the White Elephant
and Ellis's?
Q.-Yes. A.-Yes.
Q-Without securing conviction Of the pro-
| prietors? A.-No; / secured conviction. II you
call fine conviction, do you mean cOnvic-
! tion for keeping a disorderly house. I did not.
Q-That is what ! mean A-Because those
| charges are already standing
Q-Then you say there have been places besides
| those closed, do you? Ayes.
$50 1t Is possible for you to close a disorderly