The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1899-01-28
VISITATION
As a Means of Finding Out
What Institutions
Need in the Way of ApprO-
priatiOns.
THERE ARE TWO SIDES
To Such a Method of Finding
Out
What Ought to Be DOne-Man-
ayers of Institutions
Will Either Show the Worst Or
Best Side.
THERE ARE TWO SIDES


each from the charitable, penal and
ways and means committees, to invest
igate the needs of the state institutions
along the line of appropriations.
The proposition to select this COM
mittee provoked considerable discus
sion, and during the time a motion to
adjourn until Monday afternoon at
o'clock was discussed. The motion
was held in allegiance for the time and
the discussion became so interesting
that it was not insisted upon. However,
the motion carried after the battle
ended.
The original resolution came from
Senator Helm who, by request, present
ed it to the senate. 1t authorized the
ways and means committee to make
the tour of the institutions. This was
amended by Senator Forney to include
but two members from the ways and
means committe and two members of
tions. On motion of Senator Armstrong
two members of the committee on PEN
al institutions were added, making
committee of six members.
Senator Jumper started in to bur-
1esque the resolution. He made a speech
in which he suggested that the commit
tee would seek information and ''aS in
formation is all they want" he said
with sarcasm, 81 think the chairman of
the state board of charities, the senator
from Usage should go along with them.
myself but wish some senator would do
so. l would be everlasting grateful to
him.
Senator Lamb Immediately secured
recognition and moved that Mr.. Jum-
per be added to the committee in the
capacity of conductor. Then Mr.. Lamb
said: 81 think this committee should
have a lawyer to go with them to pass
upon the legality of their proposed work
and know of not one who could do this
better than myself and do hope some
senator will move that 1 be added TO
the membership" This was Immediate
1y done by Senator Jumper. Then the
battle began.
Mr.. Jumper suggested that the invest
igation of demonstrations is unnecessary
because he argued the people in
charge of these institutions will know
you are coming and will prepare for
you. They will show you the best side
of the case, except where they want an
appropriation then they will show you
the very worst and there are some
places therein which you will not see.
You can see only what they choose to
show you. I oppose these junketing
tours. 1t is nonsense. 1t is expensive.
The superintendent of the Beloit indus
trial school for girls has been on this
floor for week asking members to Wis
it the institution there. She wants you
to come and don't blame her. Because.
you will go and see what is needed and
then be prepared to make big appropri-
atoms. A visit of that kind might warp
your judgment. We can't appropriate
what these institutions should have be-
cause we dare not impose upon the peo-
pie of the state the burden of taxation
which would come to them were the in
situations given the appropriations real
ly needed"
When Mr.. Jumper concluded his
speech he again resumed the role of
burlesquer and said: This committee
should have a lawyer as we'll as a con-
ductor and the senator from WoodSOn
should go along
Senator HeSSin: 81 would like to ask
the senator from Usage a question"
Senator Jumper: Certainly
Senator Hessin: 'fI have heard that
there are joints at some of these in
situations and if Lamb goes, the chair
man of the committee on temperance,
must be protected from falling into
these temptations"
Senator Jumper: eff this senate will
send me as conductor I will assure you
that my protecting arm will be around
Mr.. Lamb at all times"
Senator Hessin: THAT settles 1t.
Lamb can 60.
In his speech Jumper said there were
wards in the institutions which a COM
mittee could not visit. This aroused
Senator Forney and he criticised such
conditions and said the committee
should be sent out clothed with author
ity to visit every part of all institutions.
eff were the president of the state
board of charities" Senator Forney de-
cIared, II would not try to prevent
committee visiting these institutions. l
would encourage them to visit them.
Nor would 1 ask to accompany this
committee.
Il say, let us send this committee
Let them go untrammeled and unac-
companied by the president of the state
board of charities. 1t looks to me like
the president of the state board of char
tiles had something he wanted to con-
ceal."
81 merely want to say in reply to the
senator" Senator Jumper said, when
Forney had done speaking, that my
suggestion that 1 be made a member OF
this committee was made in the nature
of joke
Senator Lamb withdrew his amend
ment to make Senator Jumper men,
Der of the committee.
Il would not go if I were appointed"
Senator Jumper continued. Il am OPP
opposed to them two years ago, and
am opposed to them now. They are USE
less and expensive to the state"
1.-The expense will be immaterial," in
terrupted Senator FOrney- passes can
be secured for all the members
Perhaps the senator has a stand in
with the railway company. 1 am not
able to get passes
"Well, can in case OF this kind
Senator Forney stated.
Then 1 wonder whose interest the
committee would GO in, the railroad
company's or the state's?''
did you go out to reform school the
ether day?" inquired Senator Forney.
II did,
did you pay your fare?"
mo, siri and weuid not have gone
had 1 not been the president of the
state board of charities. / was opposed
to that trip, as 1 am opposed to the one
proposed in this resolution. L de not
believe any senator has any better idea
of the needs of that institution now
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