The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1899-09-01

One Of the Judges asker tHe "'ti'r'' 81
he did not remember hearing Dreytus say
that the documents delivered were only
copies. TO which Captain LeOrun-hehauiI
replied: Il do not recolect 40 not
remember that phrase. but he may nave
said T. talked with DreyIus TOT
quarter Of an hour. The sentence nave
quoted was that which l jotted down IN
ny note book" .,
Judge. what did General Mercier tell
,.o,, u.bon Won mentioned the confession
20 him2' am. ..,.o1
vbsf Drevfus had said and then told me
- 90 10 tho Elysee and describe the con
fesion but I was given no time TO mem
ton It then"
puruose?' 49,. .t,-o
Captain Iebrun-R enault: Il went 'he'e
for that purpose
The Judge: at IS a great pity you said
nothing on the subject
Captain Lebrun-Renault: Il had no
time 10 speak Of IT,.
= nudge: Did the president know why
you came 20 the Elysee?'
Captaln I,ebrun-Renault: "The president
was notified that ] was coming For
nv part. I was somewhat intimldaie'-
which IS easily explained. heara my
self described as a traitor 'canalle' ana
.cur That was not encouraging
Mr. Damanee asked the witness n u
was really a conversation Win Diey .N9
mr. II the prisoners remarks consisted OF
broken dialogue, as General "ohse h''
said.
Captaln Lebrun-Renault: "Dreyius spoke
10 me. but did not reply
Ia
couid detect confessions In a sentence
containing -he words. 'I am innocent In
tbree wears my innocence Will be ac-
knowledged."
Captain Icbrun-Renault: ut Is not for
mo IN reconcile the Inconsistencies or
sentence IN which the material fact that
documents had been communicated was
admitted IL IS not Tor me to give an
explanation. Il IS for Dreyfus and the
defence 10 explain. ] heard this SEN
tence was only a kind OF rhonograph
and 7 repeated Sc without commentary
(Excltement)
Il have no impression whatever, No
said "Dreyfus said a great deal TO me
/ retained this sentence. and l repeated
IL when asked. III did not mention u III
my report. 90 was because l had the task
OF conducting Dreyfus from the prison to
tho place ~ degradation. and IL was not
my duty 20 make Drcyfus talk. lt-X-
cltemeut)
NJ Demange. continuing: How could
General Gonse and General MERCER. on
hearing YOUR story believe they had 90
deal with a confession and how could they
send YOU 90 the Elysee.'
Captain Lebrun-Renault: Il have no
idea"
VI. Demange reminded the witness that
before the Court Of Cessation he consid-
cred the sentence OF the prisoner which
he had quoted 20 De a kind OF explanation
or excuse.
Captain Iebrun- Renault: "Why. Mon
sieur le President, that IS personal ques-
ton ! have no opinion 10 express on
that point. ! am no Judge Of things. ]
repeat simply what Dreyfus told me.
Certain persons may consider his re-
marks "a embodying confessions: others
as being explanations. That is their bu-
siness." (COmmotion)
NJ. labor: "Why did the witness keep
the leaf OF his pocket book with the note
of confessions for years The witness
seems to say that IT was mere chance. /
am surprised that the witness destroyed
it lust the day after II was mentioned IN
the Chamber OF Deputies"
To this. Captain Lebrun-Renault replied
that at that time he considered that the
document he possessed was authenticated
BY the COPY made Vt IL by NJ Cayiagnac
the day before 1t was destroyed.
NJ I.abori: The court will draw its own
conclusions"
DHEYFUS EXPLAINS.
When asked II he had any observations
to make. Dreyfus replied: Yes my colo
mel. there were two rooms i'm the Military
School ] was in the further one and
Captain ebrun- ReHaut never LETT me.
He alone was with me. II is possible
Captain D'Attcl, whom l do not know,
or other officers entered the adjoining
room"
Colonel Jouaust to Captain Lebrun-Re-
naulT: did Captain D'Attel enter the
rooms you Occupied with the accused?'
Captain Lebrun- Renault: Captain DAT
tel spent five minutes in one OF the rooms.
Both Of them are very small
Dreyfus. Il do not believe Captain
D'Attel or any other officer entered the
inner room. | do not remember that any
one but Renault was present. As regards
the words. I will not repeat the conversa-
ton OF Captain n-Renault nor the
words he used / will confine myself 10
repeating to the court what I said and
the explanations | had the honor 10 give.
MY NpfAN were rs lNllpWSs an lAllp-
cent and / will cry II aloud 10 the whole
people. The Minister well knows g.
Il have already explained to the court
what ! meant II was the reply ! had
given 10 Colonel Du Patty de Clam when
he visited me in prison. in the course OF
which | protested that I was innocent. I
completed that declaration by a letter /
wrote 10 the Minister re-declaring 7 was
innocent. Colonel Du Patty De Clam asked
me whether / had not given unimportant
documents 20 get more important ones
I'm exchange for them. I replied word for
word. No: / wanted the matter cleared
ND. and concluded by saying, But before
two or three years my innocence would
be acknowledged.
THE court will understand that. IN ths
state OF nervous agitation in which I ma
tursllly found myself, / did not fully ex-
prssss what was on my mind. Allow me"
continued Dreyfus 80 explain the emo
ton and surprise feel today that after
five years when see a witness, who.
hearing such words beginning with a. pro-
test Of innocence. repeated them TO his
chiefs without asking the most concerned
person for an explanation OF them. These
are proceedings in the face OF which al!
honest people can only express indigna-
ton" (Creat sensation)