New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-08-18
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The prisoner listened intenty to the witness,
whose self-control contrasted markedly with
his excitement Of yesterday.
NJ Demange asked Colonel Jouaust president
of the court martial to request General Roget
10 repeat the explanations which he had given
before the Court OF Cessation in regard 10 the
part played in the affair by Major Du Patty de
Clam whereupon the witness ;raversed the Ola
ground in regard to Du Patty de CLAIMS steps
to warn Esterhazy OF the campaign which IL
was said was being organized against him. The
: General said he believed the forged "Speranzd
letters were either written by Du Patty de Clam
or instigated by him Witness said he had not
acted against De Clam, because he saw nothing
culpable In what that officer had done TO save
Esterhazy.
With reference to the Document Liberateur,
which was a document forged in order to obtain
the release Of Esterhazy when he was court
martialcd, General Roget said he knew only row
1t reached the Minister Of War. adding that Its
disappearance from that Ministry was a mys-
terry But he added doubtless Du Patty de Clam
could explain the matter.
Counsel for the defence here wanted to know
how under such circumstances. Du Fatty de
CLAIMS intervention in behalf Of Esterhazy could
be explained. The witness however. could only
attribute 1t to Du Patty de CLAIMS moral con-
viction OF Esterhazys innocence"
PLEA FOR THE GENERAL STAFF.
I'm any case" the General asserted, the gen
eral staff must be disassociated entirely with
the part played by Du Patty de Clam in that
matter"
Certainly" replied NJ Demange
Il attach great Importance TO that point
was the Generals next remark.
NJ. Demange agreed to that. but added:
What l would like to know Is now an limo
cent man like Esterhazy believed to need
that kind OF help?' Uaughter)
1T is certain l should not have done it,
answered the witness. which caused renewed
laughter
General Roget added that. although he would
not have interviewed himself 70 save Esterhazy,
he did not consider the course followed as being
reprehensble.
NJ. Demange questioned the witness as to what
he thought OF Esterhazy's attempt TO obtain
Fl ON an agent declaration that he had nothing
to do with the affair. TO which the General re-
piled that he knew nothing Of such an attempt.
NJ. Demange then read General Renouard's
report on the subject and General Roget ad-
mitted that Esterhazys attempt was certainly
curious proceeding for an innocent man to
undertake. Counsel thereupon invited the spe-
cial attention OF the court martial TO the wit
ress's reply. Then NJ. Demange took the Cen
eral to task for playing yesterday the part OF
general accuser. particularly toward Colonel
Pcquart. During the course Of his remarks the
lawyer referred TO the document known as the
petit bleu and the erasures in IL. The General ad
mitted that the erasures might have been made
with the view Of giving the document sus-
picous appearance. but insinuated that Colonel
Picquart made the erasures and reinserted the
name OF Esterhazy after taking the photograph
OF the document exhibited before the Court OF
Cessation. Counsel insisted that the falsifca-
ton was made after the petit bleu left Colonel
Picquarts hands and demanded further ex-
plantations from the witness. The General, how
ever said he was unable 10 testify as 10 who
falsihed the document or why It was done
but he did not believe that 1t was done with the
view OF compromising Colonel Picquart
CARRIERE MAKES OBJECTION.
At this tuncture NJ Demange and Major Car
riere got into an alteration. NJ Demange de-
sired information in regard to the espionage
meeting in Basic, Switzerland. and the recall on
account Of peculation, OF an agent named La
joul who was corresponding with a certain
freight agent. Major Carriere. the representa-
tive Of the French Government. objected TO the
discussion OF the subject at this stage. for. he
said. 1t would be contrary to the spirit OF dis
cipline for the General 10 discuss those details.
The president Of the court upheld Major Car
riere's protest, and NJ. Demange continued the
cross examination OF General Roget.
How was 1t you knew" counsel asked the
witness. that 100000 francs offered Ester
hazy IL he would confess TO being the author OF
the bordereau?"
Il heard It," the witness replied. from the
Court Of Inquiry which tried Esterhazy, and
from Esterhazy himself"
All" exclaimed the counsel ut was Ester
hazy who said IT. Just So" G.aughter)
why was his residence searched?' NJ. De-
mango then asked. and the General answered
"Esterhazy at ore time had the document
containing the words 'cette canaille de D,
and might. therefore have had others"
You admit then" said NJ. Demange, that he
might have had interesting documents?'
When one is conducting inquiry" replied
the witness "one must expect anything and
search accordingly"
Admitting" counsel went on that Ester
hazy was the agent Of the Dreyfus family. and
that he had agreed to assume. as suggested. the
prisoners guilt. how do you explain the fact
that Esterhazy. several occasions. wrote
statements calculated to compromise the case
of Dreyfus?"
EsTERHAZY's ODD DOINGs
with Esterhazy." replied General Roget. "one
can never be sure Of anything. CLaughter) He
is such an extraordinary fellow. do not know
what he may be doing to-day. nor what he Will
do tomorrow"
That statement caused the public in the
courtroom to become convulsed with laughter.
and General Roget, who had been growing ner-
vous under the searching examination became
greatly excited Turning to Dreyfus he cried in
a loud voice:
Il know very we'll that II accused Of
an act Of treason which had not committed
I should find arguments with which to defend