The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-24

In what was he engaged at the time
he received that message! L do not
know; ! think in talking with the gen.
tlemen there who were about him, per-
haps.
CELEBRATING IN ADVANCE.
Felicitating each other upon the pros
pective election that day? You NOR
tify me now; we were; you emoarrass
me-
Committeemen-Wha that!
Question and answer read
Notwithstanding that, Mr.. McCune
left as you state, put on his coat and
hat; do you remember whether he took
his cane? | do not recall that. sup
pose he did.
Didn't you have a little discussion
there between yourselves-you ana
John Evans and Moses Thatcher-as to
whether it was proper? 1t was not
discussion. I think Mr.. McCune asked
the question, and the gentlemen around
gave their opinions. 1 said L saw no
reason why he should not go. Mr..
Thatcher said the same thing L De
lieve Mr.. Evans said perhaps he better
not go. I do not recall that distinctly
When he came back from that con-
versation did he see you? think in
all likelihood he did. e4.-
You remember that he came pack.
Oh, yes; there is no question about
that. He came back, but whether he
saw me or not. just at the moment OF
his coming back, am unable to say.
Don't you remember his coming back
there and telling you he thought Mr.
Tanner would vote for hinl-Mr Law,
I mean-though he was not needed!
Some remark of that kind was made;
do not know whether by Mr.. McCune
or not.
Isn't it your best recollection that he
did? 1 do not recollect. 1 beg you to
remember that the place was absolute
ly packed, or thickly populated, with
people, who were talking at the time
1t may have been made by Mr.. Nc
Cune and come to me from someone
else
Isn't that your best recollection that
McCune came back there and reported
that he did not think he was needed,
but that he believed Law would vote
for him on that day? l have SAID TO
you that Mr.. McCune made no special
report of that character to me-
Wasn't it reported there in the
house, in his presence? L have a dlm
recollection of a rumor of that kind be
ing about those rooms, but no special
report was made to me.
That was understood there, wasn't
it? To tell the truth about it, he didn't
care.
Wasn't that the understanding in the
headquarters that morning after he
came back that he would get another
vote in addition to those names you
have mentioned, and who you expected
to elect him? l remember, in going
from room to room, talking with diff
ferent gentlemen, that from some quar-
ter there came a rumor that there
would be another vote; yes. But where
it came from or what it was, am
unable to recall.
You heard it was Law, didn't you?
1 heard it was Law, and heard that
it was Taylor, too.
COULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAPPIER.
suppose, then, there was a little
increased felicity existing between the
parties there? 1t would have been i'm
possible to have increased our felicity
at that time.
You saw Mr. WINS up there on Sun
day ming; what date. do you re-
memE-T: 20, sir; l do not. MI.
Chambers can tell the date.
we have the date. Mr.. Harris, how
many conversations did you have with
him that evening? Three. One over
the telephone; the other two in the
rooms.
Then the first conversation which he
had with you was in the rooms; L VIII
ask you if it is not a fact that he said
to you there that he believed that if
he could find Jackson and take him
to Mr. Chambers office and have talk
with Chambers, that he would come to
McCune and vote for him Monday?
Yes, sir.
And did he not likewise state that he
would have some difficulty in finding
him? 1 don't recall that he did at that
time I don't recollect all the details
of that conversation. Perhaps he may
have said something of the kind.
That he had difficulty to find Jack
son, because he had gone from place
to place. and might not find him? Per-
haps he said that.
And did not you say to him, ''Well,
you better get a carriage and hunt him
up, and let him see Chambers, and see
if you cannot secure his vote? 1 may
have suggested that; yes. 1 don't re-
member.
Were you in conversation with him
alone? We were standing in the front
parlor of the headquarters. Mr.. WINS
was sitting across the edge of the ia
BILE. and 1 had one foot on chair. Peo-
pie were passing back and forth. We
were not talking boisterOuSly. 1t was
an ordinary conversation.
1t was not an ordinary conversation
for all to hear? No. sir.
that night that he must secure the
Jackson vote, in that conversation. I
told him very earnestly to get Jackson
and Chambers together and if possible
arrange for the Jackson vote on Mon
day.
Previously to that, had WINS told you
that Jackson would go to Mr.. McCune
at any time when McCune could be
elected. 1 think that in the course of
that conversation he said that he was
quite sure Jackson would come TO Nc
ed him to do so, and l was anxious to
get them together.
You expected that he would? Yes.
And you probably told him to get
carriage in that first conversation and
hunt him up? don't recollect partic-
ularly as to the carriage proposition.
How long was he gone before he re-
turned? Half past II o'clock.
When he returned he told you he had
seen Jackson? Yes, sir.
And he talked with Chambers, and
that Jackson was a little in doubt
about whether he would leave King
Didn't he tell you that Jackson said he
had been voting for King and didn't
want to leave him at that time, but
when he did leave he would go over to
McCune and would stay with him?
That is not the way 1 understand the
conversation.
How do you understand it?
OBLIGATIONS TO KING
That he was ready to leave King as
soon as he had discharged certain OBJ
legations to King, and the question then
arose whether that comprehended more
than one or two ballots on Monday
You understood that Jackson was not
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