The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-03-01

well, this matter was brought to the
attention of Mr.. McCune the other
day; he said he heard some parties
talking about it, he says, / don't re-
member or | disremember who it was,
and 1 suggested that it might have been
Bywater. as 1 had told him about 1t,
and he said II don't know but it was,
but it had been brought to his notice,
and he says, MIR. McCune told him
that if he was elected United States
senator he would be very glad to as
sist Mr.. Lapish in prosecuting his in
vention, but he says, of course, If ne
wasn't elected he couldn't" well" I
replied, that IF there was any merit in
my invention that would make some
thing out of it anyway, whether Mr.
McCune was elected or not, and if there
was no merit in ii | wouldn't make any
money out of the invention ITSELF" and
Mr. Dunbar replied, We'll. if there was
merit in it, it could be helped along by
a person with the different connections
with railroads that Mr. McCune had
and would have If he was elected
United States senator" and I replied
to this that that was allvery good and
it was very good of Mr.. McCune and |
had no objections to receiving assist
ance, but [ didn't think Mr.. McCune
ought to be elected United States send-
tor. and he asked me why | felt that
way and | told him that I felt there
were other men in the party that were
more entitled to it and better qualified
for the position. and l mentioned Judge
Powers and Judge King and said that
they had spent. thought, more OF their
Iife's labor in the interest of Democracy
than Mr.. McCune had, and Mr.. Dunbar
said he would agree with me as TO
King anyway, that he had done great
deal for the party and he had had q
great deal of recognition, that he had
already accepted the nomination for
congress and he wasn't entitled to this.
and he said as to Judge Powers, You
know how it is, that
POWERS NEVER CAN BE ELECTED
in Utah and there is no use in con-
sidering him. This is the langua ge,
as near as [ can remember it, that
passed between us. We talked a little
further and some one opened the door
and started to come in and then stopped
and said, Il guess 1 am intruding," and
we both said no, he wasn't intruding,
to come in; / disremember whether
they came in or went out, and after
that ! think they went out, but irnn1e-
diately after some one else came in and
the conversation ended there. and /
will just state that 1 regarded 1t my
self as Mr.. Dunbar holding out the
promise of a valuable personal con-
sideration to me on the part of Mr.. Nc
Cune, as a reason for my voting for
him, and, if it is not out of order,
will state further that, with this Incl
dent in mind, l felt that if Mr.. Law
was expelled that it would be a great
injustice of the-my conscience would
nt LOT mo 70 h fol
like making q fight against the report
if the report came in of such a nature
that would demand his expulsion. and
], for that reason, stated to some of
the committee that / proposed
to oppose this if it came that way
and 1 didn't want to be charged with
keeping anything back to spring on
the floor, and If the committee desired
it, was willing to make a statement;
and it seems that it had been talked
about quite a bit since. 1 never men
toned it to any of our crowd, this in
cident until after the charges had been
made and talk had been circulating
around. 1 never mentioned it to any
of our crowd-I mean the original Pow
ers people-or the present King men.
mentioned it to couple of Mr. Nc
Cune's men in confidence before that
time; that was all.
Mr.. Lapish, what is your age? Thir-
ty-seVen last November.
You are blind? Yes, sir.
How long have you been blind? Well,
ever since l was between and years
old
How long have you been working on
this invention? Well, that would be
hard to state. I first became interested
in it at Bingham Junction; when my
brothers and sisters went to school, L
spent my time in the engine-house with
the machinists, and the air brake was
a new thing there, and that interested
me at that time more than anything
else; and sometimes afterwards L got
q pipe, or a double pipe air brake de-
vice for the accomplishment of the
same purpose that this accompliShes
with the one pipe and. of course,
double pipe system is out of the ques-
ton, now that there is single pipe in
troduced all over. and it is ever since
that time that l have been studying to
accomplish this thing. which railroad
experts have said couldn't be accom-
plished with the one pipe.
About how many years have you
worked on it? Oh, 1 don't know; it
must have been four or five on this
particular device, up to date.
Are you a man of any means? No,
sir.
What is the name of Mr.. Greenwood,
whom you have mentioned? B. Y.
Greenwood.
Commonly called Ben Greenwood?
Ben Greenwood.
And a supporter of Mr.. McCune?
Well, originally he was a supporter of
Judge Powers, but he talked-he ad-
vised me to vote for Mr.. McCune to
settle this.
Did Mr.. Dunbar. when he opened this
ton, say anything to you upon
the subject that in the conversation
the remark that Mr.. McCune had told
him if he was elected United States
senator he would be glad to assist MIR.
Lapish in prosecuting his invention;
that was all.
Did he say anything upon the sub
ject as to whether he could do so If he
was not elected? Well. / don't know
he intended to mean that Nc
Cune had said So but he used the
language that ! have. quoted, that of
course if he wasn't elected, he couldn't
do it.
POWERS COULD NOT WIN.
Cross-examination by Mr.. Brown:
What reply did you make when Dun
bar said that Powers couldn't be
elected? I said l didn't know why he
couldn't be. l said. Why not?'
Did he answer that query-did he
tell you why he couldn't? Just as 1
have stated He says, why, you know
how it is with Powers; he can't be
elected in Utah, and there is no use
him."
And after that. did you make any
further reply? On that particular
question?
Yes? Well, don't remember wheth-
You didn't Indignantly repeI that,
that he couldn't be elected? l remem-
Der stating 1 didn't see why he couldn't
be.
You remember stating you didn't see
why he couldn't be? Yes.
He didn't suggest that because he
get the votes. or anything of