New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-18
on Miss Kenney. SECOND, Morris Park, 81 even.

at least. that is what Is on the card A.That is
pooroom At 80 Park Row? Al did sir, sir :, ~
Ghew sS yo@ e you go up
flight OF stairs and pass a lookout there ana INTO
,QYou didn't have to &c through SALOON p1dct ina,
time? Mo sir; right on the street r'a'eu
Q.NThere were other persons there? A-Yes. sir
sspa dd Sp s n''r the pool
Odd you ind other persons present oe'''"s
% Many Ms Syii At was very well hllsd ,.,.,
oWha dd you dST A Norr. bet T TR p pSee
| was crowded. a great many betting
NEVER WAS ASKED TO JOIN A CLUB.
O-were you a member Of any club connected
with any OF these places? A.-No. sir.
Q-Were you ever asked to be? A.-No. sir
Q-were you asked to pay any Initiation
| fee? A.-Never.
Of those places? Al never noticed any.
Q-You never noticed any? A-No. SIR ,.auo
QrThere was nothing that would call your at
| any OF these places? A.-One. r,.,.,
9Ws sstm Snf Ta' tGa Masonic ha was Oh
! Q-What numberf A.-Seven hundred and nine
On oLrhat t''i Is Mr. Iedwiths place? Ayes. sir
that is r5 he on aS Fo sSg p shSs looked IKE
| Q-You mean you saw things on the wall ike
a % Masonic embems? Ayes sir. At one end
was a stand where the Master would SIT pre-
DO you mean a Masonic or any ordinary Sc
| cret society? Was there anything particularly MA
sonic 9SS"t are speaking the S00 ordnay
ments Of a secret societys ciuorooWss ar e'' 81"
! MIR Moss-That is all. -, It'll,
Mr. o'sulvan- Al whose suggestion did you visit
o@9es Al received my instructions from M, MI
tsiqf al
mentioned here more than once? A-2ss: SIT; ,v,ceq
Odd you visit each one OF the places twice
GLOW many OF the places. about, have , you
been to pretty near oil OF them once or twice ana
some OF them three times. 49,, o,,y once9
Q-Yes. but the majority OF them oh'y o"oe
oWho makes up the rspO ror do 5eys 9T
| w L. Sawyer. | write the report
NUMBER MAKES NOTES NECESSARY.
o-You were asked by Mr.. Moss whether some
Of those places or were not over saloons!
! A.-Yes. sir.
o-Was there anything in the reports to show
YOU whether they we're over saloons or not! A
| We'll we generally put saloon over sa-
loom or on from street'-we generally had TO
have something there to recall to our minds Just
oUHnG Your mind was prompted when you an
swered that question by something you saw In the
report as TO whether 1t was over saloon OF ho' Z
many EysI Psfe' ala ySn y Ii" p SlS
rooms, guess. about ten or hfteen-some"here
You nave testified here thns sre fI many of
''t o'"Yes. Take the place you testified about l25
West Forty-second-st. Was that over saloon
AQ.NYou testify to that fact from memory? A
Q.-is that fact embodied in your report1,ihat 1t
not over saloon. AMWeh ecans MoHi had been
in the restaurant to dine and know the pace dp
stairs see? am around that neghoorhooo' anu
% Q"But the fact was stated in the report was 1t
| not whether that was over saloon or not d
1t may have been. That constitutes part OF the
report s,,,,vor-wuu YOU let me see the report'
Mir Moss-What NUMBER . .
Mr. O'Sullivan-One hundred and twenty-seven
WI" Mr. Moss handed the report to Mr.. O'sulllvan,
in turn HANDED D the n ree 70 10 the
ton of that pooroom. whether y Is over snty
any Wesi fss poorOom
! east side OF restaurant, up one flight OF stairs.
NO CLUB CHARTERS FOUND.
oyou dictated those? A.-No sir. write them
! myself. -
o.-And they are copied in this form? A-They
are I first make my notes the minute come OUT
| - tho MACE and from my notes make any report.
On how many Of these places did you ma
| charters Of clubs? A-Not any Of the places
spoke about.
Q-You didn't find anything in there but variety rsI
! Of Masonic emDemS III one H-oOuiC
| o. What would you expect TO hnd IN case 1t
vres chartered az "A club. given place? Al sup.
pose 1t might have club name up so'ne'""s ''''
| looked ike a saloon license. .,,.o,,
| On those what you call the numbers OF TICKETS
Won were betting do not each one OF snVse slte
Inc club name? A.--They might. Some OF mem 40
O -You have had possession OF each one ol it'll
have Won not? A.-What | nave hhu' 'Heie "e''
three. -, .. club outs,de Of a
noolroom club as you call It? Al nave Deen ~
some Of the large clubs. | can't say tnat e'e'
looked for a charter though. 81, .,, ho,
OEWere YOU forbidden entrance unul you aau
maid an Initiation fee? Am IMITATION 'eo was
never mentioned. ,..,. mol, bavo heen IN
Il was taken there by people IN lle iatse h,s1
n Have YOU ever entered large socai OF pu sr
ness club without paying an Initiation Zee Az
hecome a member or IT, you mean l., ,,,h t,s
~ Nc. enter such club and mix IN WIN aus
,sr,hsrs without paying an Initiation zee a
NJ. I have never paid an initiation fee ana NAVE
never mixed In with any cuo.. A., ,,.o,o :, oluhe
haII,noDs 70 he? Al have some Idea through the
Iepox Banjo Club. which | belonged to. ortor q
LetoH -d,id any respectful le-lOoking man enter
rE ~ that kind without paying an ihi,iat4A lee
cI"n .,,ho,, beIng stopped at the door! A-he Sd
W - In and sit down five or ten minutes. anu anu a.
ANYBODY comes to him he has got 20 geo o1 ayu
aug wonfs TO becomoa member he has got 10 pay an
~ How would any know II he was not
Semher9 Ar nobody knew him. ne "ou'u"
se5 nDo all the members pass on eacn one ana, INA,
- the euox Club? A.-There were oliiy "i''S'
sIin'rnbsrs. IL was a musical CLUB. a bahJo ,CtupS
hSihDT' a,n sneakng about the larger CLUBS; A
- Nothing about the larger CLUBS AT AL