New-York tribune., 1899-06-08
1t was policy shop? Att looked so; it was a

II a
room? A-Supposed TO be a pooroom. I guess. .
,Q-But we are talking about policy, You said
you visited SUSPECTED policy shOp 5hat WAS IN
Q.-Do you know who the reputed head of policy
is in your district? Al do not vo.
Q;-Did you ever hear of him as being connected
with policy? A;-Yes.
Doc n'j jan!snF Iss4'FP'l%a3 r. Afs' rs.
aser? % Al SS don't aR5S% know anything % about At that
Q-Isnt that his reputation? Al have heard
Q-You have heard of IT? A.-Yes.
9-And you have heard OF policy In that that pre-
aaTe precinct defcve FnO%hs @ who the
suspected policy king Is, and his suspected man
sF oc N e 5aai m e aSee ni
pected shops are? Al can't commit them all to
IGNORANT AS DEvERY.
Q-Give me some of them? Al can't. give you
any Of the locations now. know a lot Of suspect
give the distinction between the one and the other
played in n'Ie poey? I Al don't S know ~ ''
Q-where IS Mr.. Adams's headquarters? Al
Q-Is il in your precinct? Al don't know.
9-Where IS Nj Jansen's Al don't know; nov
do you know whether you don't know until you
to say You don't know right along to everything?
Al came here not TO lie; came here 10 tell
Q:,You, said Il don't know three times to an
Q.--DO you know that policy is the poor. mans
gamble, the gamble of tenement houses? Al
Q-And that women and little children play it7
QIYou have heard IL? A."Yes
Q.-And you don't know it of your own i'nowl-
i've i've years? Do you know what kind Of places it
is generally found in? A.-Mostly in cigar stores
Q.-You cant give US any more information
about gSy than you haye given rs? houses houses in
your precinct? Give US the numbers. Al don't
know OF any in the precinct.
Q.-You don't know of any? Al don't know
of any gambling houses. ia
Q.-I ask you hot not to commit them all to mem
Q-That is your special business. isn't it?. A
Q.-what is? A.-Everythng pertaining to the
detective side Of police duty.
of police duty? RHYes 10 '"' '''''''e '''' "
WELL FITTED FOR HIS WORK
Q.-Any ordinary officer with good physical pow
er. deal with case Of crime occurring before
his eyes the street can't ne? A.-Yes.
Cor else he ought 10 go out of business?
going on on inside n ti Of houses? Yes, sir.
Q.-And that is what you are for? A-Yes
Q.-To find what the ordinary patrolman on
the street can't see; he can't see through the
Q.-Now, what ability have you brought to bear.
under the orders Of your captain 10 ma Out IN. ne
S V "a S9D1s tI b % a1ions accas,ons
Q.-You have visited them almost daily and made
reports on the blotter? Avery often.
Q.-Now what places have you visited? Al
don't remember just what I have. 1t is on the
Q.-But / don't know whether the record is true
or not. A-Well. l go by the record that made
.Q.-f am claiming or am questioning you upon
Sose the 'has tes % 10 deeSt mus
have somewhere In his memory a recollection OF
Of any suspected gambling house that you visited
last week? Al can't tell you.
SWhefSeH SHe did you VISIT visit last week? AM don't
remember what ! Visited la last W, week h., .r,or
don't think visited any this week
Odd you visit any this week at all? Al
dGl qw5nd SSa qo9s forqe 'G t II you dd' Al might
9p0 SGH TerqemssT % o the Location Of any sus-
Q.-Where are they? Al made one arrest there.
Q,.That Is thing POLICEMAN S never forse,ts e.;
you visit when YOU didn't make an arrest? A
o.-What were they? A.-Clubrooms.
Q.-Where? Al can't give you the number
hand? Al don't commit them ali to memory
Q.-Are you really zealousy, earnestly endeav
convicting the proprietors of gambling houses
poolrooms. policy shops in that precinct. are you?
A.-Yes
CAREFUL OF HIS RECORD.
Dwell why don't you know more about them:
l can't commit them to memory
Q.-But II your record is true. there must be
your head that dictated ihe entry? Al went
on the book and ] go by my record and am held
Glow do, you make up that record? Al
visit those places and enter IL on the book
Q.-And after you enter them on the book you
Q.-That IS valuable statement. Do you talk
with Captain Price about this work A.-Hs or
Q.-.Do you talk with Captain Price about this
work? A.-His orders to me at all times
The Chairman-Answer the question and do not
argue With the counsel A.-What do you mean?
Q.-Don't you know what talking with the cap
Q.-Do you talk with Captain Price about pool
rooms and policy shops and gambling houses? A
Yes; ne gives me orders about them and in that
way talk with him.
GLOW often does he give you orders? Avery
,Q.-Do you tell him that you forget all these
places? place q AmMo put i on record put il on
he sergeant enters it ON the Botter Se ana
Q.-Do you know whether there Is a poolroom
arrest there.
DOES NOT KNOW THE KEEPER
Q-Do you know who keeps that place? Al
don't know who keeps that place,
Q.-HoH long have you been visiting that place?
the precinct
QEYou have been visiting the place ever since
you have been in the precinct. and you have not
found OUT who keeps 1t? A.-No sir.
partment that requires policeman to famiiiarlze
himself with the places in his precinct and find
out the keepers Of them? A.-Yes.
Q.-Dont you know who the suspected proprietor
is? A-No, sir.
peioT q 0q s ann St the Sqe'sd Po
sir. | arrested there. and he gave his
name as Delaney, II I not mistaken.
..Q.-Do you ever testify on arrests in court? A
Yes.
Q-po you testify then from your memory?
A-NO
Q-Do you bring that heavy botter into court
every time you testify? Al do not ! would
not get leave to do H.
Q.-What 10 you testify from? A.-What l know
at the time.
Q.-That is what are asking you 10 testify 20
here Al did make any record OF It In
order 10 come here.
Q.--Do you nave 10 prepare your testimony before
you go into cOurt2 A.-No | know what am
going for when | make arrest.
Q.-Who did you arrest at No. "a West Twenty
ninth-st-? A.-The man gave his name az De
laney
Q.-What did he do? Ale received 81 from