The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-18

him out l said: wright aon Ihlnk
. YOU can get Mr.. Burns out or this hight:
and even If you could. ] cannot suppress
g This information, because 1t mas been tele-
graphed TO the proprietor OF the paper;
He knows what comes, and j says,
am not in position TO grant YOU any Ia
vors whatever, and ! will not do 1t. Well,
then he became rather violent ana made
several threats about killing people and
"' ME- 1Seiiick-''You had better tell the
what it is, and he said Il the thing was
published he would XIII me, and l said:
There is no Use delaying the matter at
all. You have got the door locked here.
and 1t has got 20 be published. He says:
1 will bring libel snit and have you
arrested; ] said: That part of II l
cannot help / can only tell you this
matter will be published as l am telling
It. 10 YOU. Then he brought up this
him I had TO 60 10 the office and consult
with the proprietor Of the paper on the
wire, and that would be back in half
an hour. As [ passed out and left him
met Mr.. Green and Mr.. Simpson. Mr..
Green wanted 70 see me, and l told him
that was very busy. and would return
within a half hour
Mr.. MelliclS-"Whut SIMPSON,"
Witness-"Mr. Simpson IF 4, Chroni-
cle-as l was going out of the room. 1
took Mr.. Levings and Mr.. Burke We
went over, and after some conversation
the matter was put on the wire and sent
away. | did not go back to the hotel that
about Mr.. Wright going 20 Mr.. Herrn
from Mr. 'rcen. ] originally received X
from NJ. II. de Young in San Francisco
a. me IN Gme ne told me, he said Tpeaking
The chairman--"Now yo4l are speaking
about what De Young said?"
Mitness-'Y Yes, If that is permissible"
The chalrman-"Yes."
The witness-"Mr. de Young told me
that Mr.. Wright would vote for Mr.
Mr.. Mellick-"Can you establish about
the time and place of this?'
The wltness-'W Well, | wouldn't like to
set a date. because it was after the paper
came out and Endorsed Mr.. Wright for
Speaker, and after Mr.. Valentine and Mr..
Be]shaw wrote this withdrawal and pub
lished it. 1t was after that time. Now.
II might have been a week afterward or
TWO weeks. 1t IS matter that l would
not like 10 set a date on. Mr.. de Young
told me that ne was satisfied that Wright
was going to vote for Mr.. Burns. and l
asked him why. Because he said, the
information has gone out that no man
should have a committee Craftsmanship
unless he was a Burns man ] told him
That could not be; that was satisfied
that MIR. Valentine and Mr.. Belshaw, on
account OF the standing that they had
as candidates for Speaker. would be en-
Titled 10 a craftsmanship and my under
standing was that they were opposed to
him. He then told me that Mr.. Wright
had gone 70 Mr. Herrin for this money"
The chairman-"Where were you during
this conversation
Al was IN my office"
Q.-"The Call Office
AIR. de Young had called over there
70 talk about Mr. Wright. He said that
Mr.. Wright had been to Mr.. Herrin for
this $500, but Mr.. Herrin only gave him
eIght; and he said he got-he asked for
$500 TO fix Pringle. and he says, He got
that 500 from another man. Now he did
not tell me who the other man was. Mr..
Green told me, after l came here, practi-
Ca!ly the same thing: That after he got
the money from him to fix Prngle he
then then went to Mr.. Herrin and asked for
Sl20J and Herrin only gave him $500
Q.-"What Green was this that told you
practically the same thing?''
AIR. Milton 7. Green"
Q.-"Grants Manager
Al don't know him in that capacity.
I know him."
Q-"The attorney who has his office in
lhe C!rIocheI uIidlhg IN san FRANCISCO:
Al do not know where his office is,
Mr.. Chairman"
OF just wanted to know what Green.
A-"lIiIton S, or Milton ]. Green"
QI"I am sorry L interrupted you, Mr..
A-"Weu, I would like to have the com
mlItee ask me any questions that
The chairman-"Mr. Leake. did Mr.
Wright tell you what he did with this
Ayes, sir. am glad you suggested
that; First he told me he gave Pringle
5000 to get him out of the fight, and then
he said he had d hard fight, and he said:
Just poured the money in. don't
Q.-"Did he suggest 10 you that he got
money from anybody else?"
Ale denied getting money from Mr..
Q.-"That was all the remark that he
made with reference to what disposition
he made Of the money that he got from
A.-"No. He gave me to understand. in
a general way. that he spent the money in
his fight; that he had a hard fight over
there But | remember that one express
sion That he said he lust poured the
money in. and that he had to pay Prin-
gle-gave Pringle $500"
Ole did not describe to you the
manner in which the campaign was con-
Ilucted?"
Q.-"Nor the specific items for which he
paid ont any Of the money!"
Mr.. Sa0ford-"Djd he tell you that he
paid Pringle S2o0?"
Mr.. La Baree-"And he told you. Mr..
A.-"Ycs sir. ] asked him the amount.
lie said $3.50 Now Mr.. Green did not give
me the total amount. but when asked
nm the total amount he said it was over
The chairman-"We did he tell YOU
the person from whom he directly re-
"eived the money!"
AR. Green"
Q.-"Mr. Green?"
A.--"YeS''
Q.-"Did he say whose money!"
A.-"No sir Now. that is one other
point there. am glad you asked this
- question, because those things suggest
He said. when | told him about this re-
port of him going to Herrin. I intended
going there. but Guy G. Earl advised
me not to do it, and I went to Grants
friends Grants managers or Grants
people, don't know the exact term he
used: He said he intended to go to Her
TN, hut Guy Q. Earl advised him not to
Mi Lardner-"Did he sav whether
he gave any note for the money re-
A.-"No. sir"
Odd he say whether he gave anv
receipts for the money received? -
A No, sir. I did not ask him those
questions, and he did not volunteer ii.
Mr.. ia Baree-"He did not make any,
direct reference to Grant-getting money
from him." -''-e'
A.-"Not from him. He said he nron-
ised to vote for Mr.. Grant; he couid not
do It; and when he sailor was taking
about paying it back he said he was
going 10 pay It back 20 Mr.. Grant. He
did not tell me he got the money from
Sir. Green with the promise that he wonid
vote for Mr.. Grant. He told me so. and |
ne said. Now | can't do IT. and he told |
me he felt that he ought to pay il hack
Mr. Sanford-"State again the different
dates TINT he said he rot It."
Mr.. McEnerney-"The dates of the con-
Tersation or dates the money was pivan -,