New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-05-19

a familiar expression In stump speech. Now
want to say to OF those things you nave
mentioned IN that communication called the nnb dI
STATEMENTS and particularly asked OF this stitch
Mccarthy Association. As recollect; that was , 10
and they were to give as prize certain women's
underlothes. and I told the Chief that that thing
must not occur. and 1t did not occur. That Is my
al think you are right But his attention was
political organization and 1t was not Tammahy
Gwen. what was it? Any information was
that he was posing either an Independent Re-
publican or something OF that sort.
EASILY SHUT OFF MCCARTHY.
Mr.. Moss-I shall always give you. and shall
always give any witness a chance to get out any
thing lurking within his mind. l Will never stop
anything OF that kind.
Q.-ilave you finished your remarks on that sub
Odd you know Stitch" Mccarthy? A-Per-
Q.-ies. A.-No: did not want to know him
Odd you look him up? Ayes.
ton 3Da you, md out exactly what the oTsahza
found out enough to satisfy me-
tQ.-What did you do with. Stitch" Mccarthy and
prepared to punish him for any violation OF law. or
we were prepared TO punish anybody else we
,,Q:-If you took sufficient notice OF Mr.. Franklin
Nat Maithewss invitation TO stop Stitch, McCarthys
around and find out u the other things were true?
Amwel he add his invitation to somebody C,y
have got 1t settled very quickly.
linen 1t was simply the etiquette OF H. ,d me
o-Why didn't you go and demand OF Mr. Franklin
did you not say to him: Mr. Franklin Matthews
represent t and While you have not addressed
general imitation demand that you take us us
Is san an intelligent Citizen and is intelligent enough
TO know that the Police Board is the head Of the
10 make that we would receive his complaint and
act upon 1t.
of the heads of the Police Department. and that
your only function was to help a man out when
OFF these things true they were not per-
sonal to Mr. Franklin Matthews were they "A "A
many OF which knew were not true.
Q.-There had been many OF those things pub
lished? A-That were not true
NO FORMAL COMPLAINT NEEDED.
OFF you found out that Stitch" Mccarthy ball
the other things? Al really did not take 1t
from that article OF Franklin Matthews. Some
one gave me one Of HIS cards, one of Stitch Nc
Carthys cards. and went for him.
Q.-And you threw the article out and declined to
take any action on IT because Mr. franklin Mat
a private invitation to the Board Of Police? A
did not think anything about the punctiliousness
Odd you think anything about 1T at all? A.
Odd you care anything about IT? Ayes.
cared.
R Fa1 se bo;b srsw an
united in making afidavts about the intoleraoie
conditions that prevailed in their neighborhood!
Ayes, sir: | remember that
Q.-What did you do about those affidavits? A.
QrWhat did you do? A.-well. we put a man in
o.-Exactly. You put Mr.; Chapman in there to
o'"And thereiwas something to clean out? Al
went before, and was satisfied myself that there
DID You find something, A;-Yes. sir: ! did
O-Then you yourself eyewitness of
things that were necessary to clear out? Ayes
O Then wasn't Franklin Matthews correct when
he made the allegations in that paper Al he
had brought his complaint the same way that the
others did l would have taken more personal notice
of It, III. -. ,,.
of the People in as your commSnd WY dqnt
and ma out and protect the little children dg that
Q-Yes? A.-Preclsely what did. -,
Matthews to prosecute the people that had been
violating the law and to send them to prison? A.
Well. why didn't you. as counsel for the society
oHI am not asking about me; am asking about
you. Al cid.
COMPARED TO A CUTTLE-FIsH
GA cuttle-hsh when he is attacked gives out
cloud OF his ink. and scuttles away In the dark
ness Al am not scuttling away. went there
Q-You want to call attention TO somebody else
But stick to your own case. Ayes. went there
Q.-You went there and found the things to be
true? Ayes.
$50 true that YOU transferred from that pre-;
cnct the captain under whom those conditions had
sToT San HP y @%a put G4p'"n there TO
Q.~And that was done somewhat upon your own
evidence as witness of those things wasn't 1t?
Q.-Why yes? ~ think IT was: ,,,-.
put that captain trial under whom that filthy
condition had grown up? A.-What captain?
cSapman S Sho'I@ VIZ Awhg SaP he
the Lord had called him-he was dead. Laughter)
,r.o
Q.-Was II Captain o'Keefe or was It somebody
that had killed Captain 9K na Did ySE eyer
O-Yes did you ever hear that before? A.-No
O.-You never heard that mentioned before? A
,o'WDont you know there mystery at that
that that happens in New-York
Q.-When a man dies by accident and there is
mystery about It. what does II indicate to a police
officer? A-Indicatees good deal.
Q-What? A.I i1 we have got to look up
Odd you ever dispel that mystery? A-About
Q-Yes A-Never understood there was any
DIDN'T YOU know that at this day that neigh
properly Investigated by the Police Department,
Q.-Killed because he had knowledge Of a guilty
plot to remove another man from this life. and II
wasn't safe TO let him live with that knowledge?
A-No. and l don't think
NEVER HEARD OF THIS MYSTERY.
O-You never heard that? A.-No. and don't
think II exists.
Q.-Why don't you think It? A.-Well there has
never been any evidence, in any tangible way.
Ono but you don't expect evidence In tan
gibe way in the Mollneux or other similar cases.
do you? A.-No. nor an intangible way.
Q.-And who succeeded Captain OKeefe? A
As captain?
Q.-As commander A.-Well to be certain about
that | would have to go to the record but my
recollection is that sergeant was placed there
temporarily.
A I
think.
Q.-And Zimmerman In command OF that
precinct all through the election. wasn't he? A
Yes sir What portion OF the election do you
mean?
ton? "A very few days before.
GA few days before the election? Ayes,
very few days.
Q.-Was he not in command OF that district while
the papers were ringing with the stories OF election
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