The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-23
And he wanted you to get his vote
for that day-Monday? Yes.
AN IMPORTANT QUALIFICATIONS

And he wanted you to get his vote
for that day-Monday? Yes
AN IMPORTANT QUALIFICATION.
Didn't he importune you earnestly to
get his vote next day. notwithstanding
what Jackson had said about contin-
uing to vote for King? Yes; I said
that, but that was not all said. Al
ter he discharged his obligation TO
King.
He was to vote for King that day;
McCune wanted his vote for Monday?
Yes.
That is what YOU understood? Was
he expecting an election on that day?
I don't know. 1 don't remember that
he said anything about it, L dldn [
have any assurance from any quarter
that he would be elected
You left then, did you? Yes
want to ask you, did not Fisher
Harris make an earnest gesture with
his finger, like this, his index nnger,
when he made that last remark?
think he did All the time that we
were talking, 1 think he made gestures.
He was very much in earnest.
Where did you go after you left
there? I went down across the White
House corner and hurried TO the Gull
len, and was there in about thirty sec
onds. Jackson was there; found him
Immediately. It's about half a block
between the hotels.
Did you tell Jackson what Harris had
told you? Yes.
Repeated the conversation? Yes.
What did Jackson say? Jackson con-
sidered it for a moment, and then he
says
Did you understand Fisher Harris to
say expense or cost? l could hard
ly tell; 1 used the word expense; it
might have been cost"
1t conveyed the idea of cost or ex-
pense? Yes
Well? / told Mr. jackson what Fish
er Harris said in his closing conversa-
ton, and he just stopped a minute and
said, Il have thought this matter over,
and 1 believe the McCune campaign is
not on the square, from what l have
heard, and other circumstances. l be-
lieve that it is a corrupt thing from
beginning to end And he says, Il
believe this is just another evidence of
it," or words to that effect. l don t
think 1 can repeat his language. That
was the first that it had occurred to
me.
Didn't it occur to you as it did to
Jackson, when Harris spoke to you?
never had but one thought in my
mind, and that was to get to jackson
before he went home. Well, l had a
great deal of confidence in Jackson. We
have been intimate, and of course L
was struck by what he said. I took
his word as carrying a great deal of
weight, when ne said it to me, and 1
said-I may have been little profane
however, at all events, to this effect,
that if he had any idea or any sus-
picion that Mr.. McCune was corrupting
this state and was attempting to Sc
cure his election through any corrupt
means, that he should not vote for him
next day or ever and that l would
stand by him.
MAY HAVE BEEN PROFANE.
And you used language more en-
phatic, that would not look well in
print? l may have.
Did you see Mr.. Hughes that same
Sunday night? Yes. l walked down
with jackson, and then went right up
to the Office. and saw Hughes there.
You stated that at the time you left
Fisher. Harris that it did not strike you
that he had sent you for the purpose OF
bribing Jackson? No. sir; L did not say
that. Ny answer to the question was
that the one thought in my mind when
1 left Fisher Harris was to get to jack
son as quickly as l could.
You didn't think you were going to
have any expense to get to Jackson,
in getting TO the hotel; what did you
think Harris meant by any cost or ex-
pense? had no impression at all about
it at that time. My only thought was
to get away from him.
Was he getting a little too raw for
you? I thought if I stayed there l would
not see Jackson that night up town and
it would be necessary for me to go to
his house.
AS you were going away, Harris was
following you up impressing the neces-
sity of having Jackson vote on Monday
and seeing him that night? And secur-
ing his vote as he had agreed to with
Chambers.
And. finally, that you should get his
vote at any cost? I would say that my
best recollection was that he said:
Never mind the expense
But get his vote at any expense?
Mr.. DicksOn-I object to this; I OBJ
ject to Mr. Evans on his direct exam
nation putting language into the
mouth Of the witness. This witness is
intelligent. He knows what he said,
and has repeated it. Mr.. Evans is anx-
ious for him to say something else.
EVANS INDIGNATION.
Mr. Evans-You have all charged me
with dishonorable methods, and 1 deny
it and fling it at your teeth. You think
you can charge me with such things as
that, but hurl it into your teeth.
Did you think there was any expense
in going over TO the Cullen hotel? None
whatever; it was on my way; 1 went
a little faster than 1 ordinarily would.
Now 1 viii ask you, after talking
with jackson and telling him about
this, did you have a talk with Hughes
Yes, sir.
Mr.. Dickson-It was the same CONVEX
sation which you repeated to Mr.. Har-
ris, the conversation between Chambers
and Jackson, in which you informed
Mr.. Harris that Jackson had said that
when it became apparent that his fan
didate could not be elected, that he
would go to McCune, provided Nc
Cune's campaign was on the square?
Yes.
And in that same conversation Fisher
Harris urged you to see Jackson again
Yes, sir. And he said when he went to
McCune he was going to stay.
You had informed Harris that you
heard Jackson say that he would like
to go to McCune in the near future.
provided McCunes campaign was on
the square? Yes. sir.
The only condition was that Nc
Cune's campaign was on the square;
that he was clean and honest in his
campaign? Yes.
And rev minutes AFTER IhaI you
say Mr.. Harris urged you to go again
and see Jackson that night? Yes, sir.
Now, at that time you had the con-
versation with Harris, you had not
seen Mr.. Jackson since the time you
left him at Chambers No.
That had been an hour or so? Yes.
You did not know whether Jackson
had gone again or not? 1 did not
Wasn't there something said about
the time, between you and Harris, and
suggestion that he might have gone
home? 1t may have been; but have
no recollection of it.