New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1899-02-24

Nneh shs cou5pses mere IS nothhs l-lI az on lUl
sphere OF influence over some portion Of China"
very cry, thinr we do not want-and II we once drift
into the sphere ~ influence. one country may say
10 another "Yol shall not put on tarln In your
sphere of influence" II viii he a constant source
Of irritation II once we DRIFT into the sphere OF ~
heard here and from w6at have heard over and
which I have had the honor 10 speak to. In China
ana Japan they are Of the same opinion. but they
do not say how they are going 20 do H. / VIII
show YOU how would propose to do H.
WHY He EXCLUDES FRANCE AND RUSSIA
With regard to France and Russia, have not
included them because have endeavored 70 put
this proDosal. before those have had the honor
70 address. businessllke lines. Why should
include France and Russia a proposition for
developing and increasing and securing trade
when neither Of them has any trade to speak OF
IN China? applause am speaking. o. course
That is an expor; trade from China. but that Is
al carried I'm British bottoms and is brought by
is trade interest to u.s. but TIT It is French trade
Russia has also IN export trade from CHINA, 10
goes in British bottoms 90 Russia. But my point
Is that they have no trade with China. so
at all. Russia none whatever; France very little.
tensive trade with China an import trade-which
runs up % netting n little over hfty millions.
That Is the reason have 10; included France and
Russia IN me proposal iqr developihE ana -.
7
10 suggest that Switzerland and Greece were 20
come and Join The other four countries T 30 on a
being d!scour'eous 10 Franc or Russia nut co..
everything can 20 make feasible plan tor keeping
you by war and 6y y nav Plan f agreed TO- France ana
Russia VIII have trade with China. or vii be IN
DO not possess al present.
AFTER THE DOOR Is OPENED.
Then. sir. comes the question Of the room in
side We may say Let as have the door open
and we viii all agree 10 that" but the first nNces-
city ~ every country. whether T. be civilized or
unciv.llzed is law and order applause CHINA
is in the position Z becoming cftete because sae
An her armies. have seen an her shins all ner
forts and all her arsenals. kio& ne pnns., III
offensive and defensive weapon. ana these aIe
very numerous ana ~ rather ots9.,le cnara ~
sive and defensive character IN that country ana
can assure Won mat to-day China is absolutely un-
iae presen trade that possess or for any devel
opnen,, ios ray reople and hey are not going
~ invest their money In China and help toward
wSl-b they have he night 70 demand for their
trade ana their country.
NOW. SIR 'old you that China would ~ fat Il 20
speech and make statement 20 show why mar
f5nf OF that rroer1mme in speaker. applause
What T telling you now Is not ohy VIVA t !
have seen win my nakes eye 5e' Cninesa ,ner
chan,s md rom ne senepen VINO me- are 'raae5
f5-,v '', vears md ,bey ali tell me thar China vii
shortly and must 20 20 pieces
DANGER FROM REBELLIONs
one u the reasons is that there Will be rebellion'
There ara rebeulons row. and extensive reoellions
one man there has taken for his own hen'ht
10000 taels Divide that hy seven and you VIII
get .t In pounds. SIX million tacis o. the Roman
Catholic mission !n one stc.l'i. ~ ~ -.hai,,Gr
there There aye rcD.llIOns Do the norm lNr-r
rebeilions are gathering strength because there Is
no one 20 put them down That Is one ni NE mrs.
reasons why China VIII go % smash. Bdt thtre Is
ont rebellions and that is her financial condl'lon
an not hnancier. but have asked nnanc LEI,
7 can and get AL the.r IDEAS daughter ana apT
pausei and having rather retentiys m M 1
let me explain 10 you. Is why they are IN such Il
had position , .,. ..so,,~,o ~ some
new method Of getting revenue. China must 20 10
smash The whole Of hcr available assets, the
No. Dsv foreqn loans Bur not only IS that the case
but they have also paid PROVINCIAL mon NAY -
irc on the provincial governments. They have put
thsee TO the service Of TIES 3anS he 15o me 10 go on
keeping up their trad"
MORE TROUBLE FEARED.
The viceroys tod me themselves that they are
much afraid ~ disturbances. because in the col
lectorates-that g. the great Yang-se-Kiang Val
lev-the D4orle have the idea that they are being
taxed 70 pay the foreigner They do net ~. qad ZEE
some fh-f do nor even know that there mas been Il
war with J"Tn ar al. nul az ,' s1a pad ~ ne
foreigner The NiCerOvs said tn order ~ f'uu-
expenditures taey Wefe Irl",, ~, - nut on arv
ov+ra fovofIo02" They said. NO We dare NOT
Z wv ma n cxriain ~ You The TWO reasons
wrv china must come soon 10 smash unless some
-Wtn my proposal relative ~. The army that Is
10 uut The room IN order inside %a- MAJ me-
four countries should arrow r." SGit--..' or1 mi
.tor army in order rot for the usc ~ those oour-
s,"r REBELLION and give Us thar security which We
have right % demand as traders Many nj liif
oTr'r , -,hrk r. would be- better II The British
,,r 10 d. ~ They have 81 per cent Of The trade.
derfti trainers Of Orertals an over the world
OTHER COUNTRIES WITH THEM
7 said no. r. would be very good position for
ne hut this IS q question that We have eo' 10 be
very careful ~ We must NOT appear selfish. not
one o.. us II we were 20 DO that think France
and Russia would be perfectly rsht IN saving
Here are The English coming down. tney want me
T T-,. ,3ase oth'r ,hrce countries with as They
Viii take care ard 30 Will Doe on assurance OF go9g
faith Oh our part lut-- o.. i'I t'' 49,
take care tha' tae English d.a no, nav Al eH1l
advantage ~ france. Russia ~ any gin'I ,oqIt'
"a va o., n~ +h.s trfnv in order all foIr of u.s. and
nv tnat rams keep the door open ana keep emma
Wv Sir with regard 10 this question n my sig-
gesfion u the army. was very HiI." "iP..a1u.4t
70 mn intense delight, ar one y TWO meetings.
addressed fu saying mat. though as Lil'l-h.
am thoroughly imperiaHsuc. IN e'rIylnI...F ,i-al
concerns the British Empire. am distinctly COS,
-,,rrfffa- n vrhaf concerns other emNf%s, ana
yyould saw with regard - this question OK Inc
orrnv n Is not question of milf Nlsm- Is qgr--
ton f0r trade ana lmnl''te hI- l.5 49,
fr~fhcr ] saw that fleets and armies IN thes- Gays
are your rate Of insurance or your sinking fund plt
allel 10 what every business pay5-'4PI. otd ~
order that be- should have what Is described Us
cqre and maintenance - Keep the machine Fo.nE-
ne tdget for defence Is really the rate Of insur-
ance for your protection Of trade ana commerce.
and that fleets and armies m these GAYS are nyl
long usad hv PEOPLES for gaining territories OF SCI
fling dinererces II rorarchs or anything ot that
description on ALL They ought 20 ne inr p!op4I-
tior - an Insurance for what they nave To &C.
fend And IL is with regard 10 thar thar suggest
This army in China. and MOI for mlltaIlsn AZ al
Not A FUTURE DANGER