The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-12-20

representatives which is investigating
the case of Mr.. Roberts of Utah. They
included Miss Dr. Luella p. Miles. a
practicing physician of Salt Lake City;
Mrs McDougan, E. A Mcdaniel and
S L. Wishard, all of Salt Lake City.
Mr.. Roberts was present and conducted
the cross-eXamination.
Miss DR. Miles was the first witness
She gave her profession as that of a
physician at Salt Lake. City, and a
member of the medical society there.
She gave the details of a call she made
at the house of Mrs. DR.. Maggie Shipp
Roberts on April u. 1897, relative TO
some medical society affairs. She ad-
dressed Mrs. Shipp Roberts as DIR.
Shipp," whereupon the witness said she
was interrupted with the request:
Doctor you can call me DR.. Rob-
/, erts."
Mrs. Roberts went on to explain. the
witness said that she had been mar
ried to Mr.. Roberts for several years
She asked that the medical society mail
sent her in future be addressed as DR.
Roberts, not as DIR. Shipp.'
Subsequently the witness called at
the house. and after a visit Mr.. Rob-
ertS came in and was introduced. She
could not recall whether there was a
specific Introduction as husband or
whether his entry was with such IA
miliarity as to indicate a marital sta
tus.
the witness she repeated the same
story.
Roberts Makes Objection.
After the witness had stepped aside.
Mr.. Roberts submitted an objection TO
the effect that this testimony related
to 1897, whereas the committee had no
jurisdiction over him prior to his be-
coming a member of congress.
Then You contend" said Chairman
Tayler. that the testimony should be
confined TO polygamous practices sub
sequent to March 1. 1892"
4 do, answered Mr.. Roberts
The objection win be noted" re-
sponded the chairman.
The Rev. 5. E. Wishard was the next
witness. He gave his business as that
of superintendent of the home mis-
sionarv work 81 he Presbyterian synod
e-ifbfAclng Utah. He knew Mr.. ana
Mrs DR.. Roberts and related his first
meeting with the latter in September,
1897. This occurred. he said on the
train at AIanti. Utah. He was in the
car with Roberts. and spoke with him.
y lady sat beside him and he beckoned
to her and then introduced her, saying,
Mrs. Roberts. Mr.. Wishard."
On DISCRIMINATION Mr.. Roberts
brought out MIR. Wishard's opposition
TO Mormonism. and then asked:
WAS Roberts drunk when he made
this introduction referred to-
Not that l know of"
Was he insane?"
Il do not know"
What possible reason, then" asked
Mr. Roberts. could Roberts have had
for putting himself in such a position
with one who opposed him.
The witness said ne could not explain
he no facts.
were as stated.
Mrs. McDougalfs Evidence.
Mrs. Maria McDougall testified that
On July %. 1885, when she was on a
train. Mr.. Roberts and Mrs. DR.. Rob-
erts travelled on the same train.
.:Once | heard Mr.. Roberts introduce
his companion as My wife " testified
Mrs. MeDeugall, and repeatedly as
Mrs. Roberts"
Edward A Mcdaniel. former mana
ger of the Salt Lake Herald, was eX-
amined al considerable length. main
" on the politics and convention af-
fairs pertaining to Roberts nomination
TO congress. In 1896, while managing
The Herald he had a conversation with
Roberts in the course of which Roberts
told him he had three families. Sub
sequently in 1893. the witness said.
there was another conversation prior
to the nominating convention relative
TO rumors against Roberts. The latter
said he thought this line Of opposition
would not prove effective. as he would
court an attack as to the plurality of
wives.
McDaniel's Lapse of Memory.
on cross-examination Mr. Mcdaniel
said he had opposed the nomination of
Roberts. Mr.. Roberts asked the wit
ness:
..Bid not Roberts state at these con-
versati0ns that Celia Dibble Roberts
lived out Of the state?''
81 do not recall il.
What Roberts did say, the witness
continued, was that he was not guilty
of the crime of polygamy. as that crime
had been defined by the supreme court
az tie taking of plural wives. thus
making a distinction from unlawful
cchabitation.
Mr. Mcdaniel said his retirement
from The Herald was because he did
not wish to defend Roberts while liy-
ing in the polygamous relations.
Mr.. Schroeder. the Gentle represent /
tative. who conducted the direct ex-
animation, submitted copy of an edi- /,
torial by Roberts in the New Era re-
lating tn polysamy, and its Biblical |
status.
Mr.. Roberts presented a formal OBJ /
lection to the testimony on general /
lines diItclIA SldAEu llt
then took a recess.
Judge Brandon On Stand.
At the afternoon session T. ]. Bran !
don. a resident of Centerville. Utah, !
where he had been postmaster and pro-
bate judge, testified that he had known
Is. n. Roberts for years; also Louisa
Smith Roberts and Celia Dibble Rob-
erts. He knew the children of Louisa
Smith Roberts. five or six in number.
Celia Dibble Roberts also has six chill
dren, il he remembered correctly.
He knew that on the morning of Aug
II. 1897. it was currently reported
about Centerville that b. III. Roberts
had d pair OF twins born to him by
Celia Dibble Roberts. He had seen
them frequently since then. He also
gave circumstantial details of other
children of Celia Dibble Roberts, who.
he said. were recognized in the town
as the children of 3. H. Roberts and
called for the mail OF Celia Roberts and
occasionally FOR T. n. Roberts while
the witness was postmaster
on cross examination the witness
said he knew nothing beyond general
repute; had not been introduced to Ce-
liza Roberts and had never called at the
house. He said he had attended a
town r11peffOc and made crnapcf