Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1899-11-01
Rev. Bagby Aulmatadly Declares
" Miracles Make Me Tired"
WARM DISCUSSION FOLLOWS
mr. naabJ Has No charity for uor-
mons OF Christian Scientists what
uissionarJ's Mother said.

votional cxerciros. was the rcadlng Il
a paper ON the subject u "rhe Bible
Teaching in Relation 10 sln." by the
Rev. a. T. Rankin. lie aiid tho worst
forms OF nin can be- committed ny
thought. by desire. Tho thoughts de-
iormlne the character with God. but
man can only Judge by the known acts.
Sin 10 related 20 law. The bible says
whore there II no law there H. no trans
grcssiou. where there ~ no law ain IL
not imputed. When man IL lntoxi-
Gated you Hny that h. b In liquor. whea
really the liquor h. IN him. so whena
man leads a crooked NE morally. YOU
say he 10 In uin, when the sin u ia
him, and IL cSprraHed In his bad con-
duct Any unllkcncaa 10 Jesus Christ IL
sin' any departure from the moral law
10 sin. Tho difference between christ
and man. continued the speaker. h ain.
hin Dr. unlikeusna 90 uod. Death iH the
consequence Of sin. ny Adam came
SIN AND DEATH.
ana u H. our relationship 10 Adam that
causes ~ 10 die. Like bcFeta like. and
Adam having In him the seeds q
death, tranlmitted them 20 ua.
The child does not ain because Il Is a
sinner but because Il IL sinful You
can change tho fruit Of tree, cunclud-
81 the speaker. BY Erafting and bud
ding, 30 man ia changed from a sinful
! 60 u righteous person hy the Cleansing
blood " Jesus Christ
The discussion on this paper was
opcucd by the Rev. q. W. Martin. who
spoke briefly upon the nature OF sin.
"MoRMoNs" AND SIN.
Rcv. u. 9. bailey. said. that tho
Mormon" people did not speak Of sin
! very much. they used the words In
! trinity" and weakness" etc. lie waa
attracted TO the Tabernacle. In the city
wherc he iivca. 20 witness the funeral
services over the remains of q lady
The speakers. Ia referring 20 her sins,
spoke uf thcm M "innfmitica" and
] "watknessea." 90 which all flesh 10 hrlr.
| The people 81 the dominant clutch
seemed 20 be reluctant Ia using tho
| word aln.
The REV. AR Bs;laf thought that IL
would be- we'll u the ministers ~ the
| various churches wuuld lay more en-
| pharlg upon the word sin.
CHRIsTs PERSONAL WORKS.
Rev. joel \. smith should have read
the next paper, The Person and Work
/ " Christ" but he was absent. and Rev.
| John Wilson presented the subject. Ito
said he never saw any purported pie
turv N Christ that uonfurmed to hts
| conception " the savior There was
| but one picture OF Him and that was the
/ pen portrait that IL given VI his chafae-
| ter ln the scriptures.
There was mo- question az 10 Chrlsfs
l divine nature. Human nature could
never have been 80 patient, so forglv-
| ms.
10 was not the prayer Of a human being.
| who, 90 he hung upon tho cross said;
| Father forEiye thgin. Tor they know
| not what they DO" The speaker turned
hla attention 60 the effect % Christian
/ literature. no. the result Of Christ hav-
Ing bccn In the earth He pointed out
lin superiority ana the superiority u
] Christian civilization over Pagan 1T
| craturc ana civilization.
| The reading NJ the paper was fol-
| lowed by remarks from a number Of
the ministers, In regard 10 the person
| OF Christ,
THE HOLY SPIRIT.
'"rhc Person and Work Of the Holy
| Spirit" was then taken up by Or. Pa
/ den. The desperation OF the Holy
/ Spirit. he said. ls the dispensatlon %
/ conscience. Tho speaker said there
was something mysterious about tho
/ trinity known aa the Father, SON and
/ Holy Ghost, but Il was the mystery of
hghi, not darkness, an Illuminating
mystery,
The day OF miracles. the day Of
| tongues Of FIRE, the days n making
/ inspired scripture, saii he. are passed.
We need no more miracles. he con-
/ tinued, az we need no more sacrifice
/ Tor Elm. pcntccoat need not be- rcpcat-
cd.
NEED no MORE bibles"
Rev. r. u. Watson openod the dls-
| cusalon on this paper lie said there
was much 20 BE- said about the work
| ~ the Holy Ghost. fts work had ale
ways been manifest He was much
| Impressed. he said by pr, Padeu'a ro-
mark that We need no more Bibles. God
10 not making Bibles today We need
mo- addition 20 this Holy book, cons
tended the speaker. liut the work OF
the Holy Ghost n not confined 90 the
scripture. when Christ said d would
remain with Ne forever. ic dld not
merely refer 10 the bible. but tho Spirit
" 20 dwell In ua, 10 clear our moral
skies.
CONFLICT or OPINION.
When Mr.. wasson rcsumed hls scat.
Rev Jayne arose, and in continuing the
discussion, maintained that the Gays %
miruclea were not pact. when the pa
dent lieo at deatht door, and the phy-
flrlhu sage there o. no hope, tho
family aud friends % the sick one
| humble themselves ana pray 10 God,
the tide OF disease is turned, ia not that
a. mlfuclcf II seems TO me we ate In
the age ~ miracles. boldly contonded
the speaker. DO we not have more
people ln the world 90 dag who need
these additional evidences OF Gods
power ana morcy7 N miracles have
passed the church has lost part OF It's
power, ! believe, declared Mr.. Payne,
that n We had the faith we could sec
the same things today ua were per-
formed In the days OF christ
MIRACLES MAKE HIM TIRED
Rev. W. H. Bugby az this iuncmfe.
secured the floor and with much ami
nation denounced such things as
superstition" Let us get ria Of this
uupcrHtition' said he. forget 20 go
back to the days OF tho Apostles. but
40 on TO perfection These Instances of
miracles make me tired" said he. II