The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1899-02-25


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| Mr. WINS make statement about the
matter? You can answer it yes or no,
| Mr. Reese? Well, il was BOTH yes.
In the statement that Mr.. WINS made
| did he say. in substance. that he had
had a talk with Fisher Harris at the
| head of the stairs in the Kenyon no.
tel. and that Mr.. Harris had requested
him TO go and hunt up Jackson on the
| Sunday evening at about 11:3O at night,
that the question came up whether he
would have difficulty in finding Jack
son, that carriage was mentioned,
| that the expense was mentioned. and
| that Harris said Damn the expense, ="
| or Never mind the expense, go and
! get three carriages" or words meaning
1 that, and find jackson at once; was
| that statement made? That was stat
ed, two carriages though, as 1 heard
| it.
Two carriages? Yes, sir.
What did Mr.. Wins say as to whether
that was said to him by Fisher lar
ris? Well, the substance of his state
ment to them was that that was what
was meant.
! Did Mr.. WINS, in the same converse
! ton, referring TO this charge that had
| been made against him, WINS, saying
/ that he had attempted to bride jack
/ son at the instance of Harris, say that
it was God damned lie? He de-
nounced it as lie; when the question
or inference was thrown out, asking
if it didn't mean bribery. he denounced
| it as lie.
Do You remember the exact words
that he used? Why, l think he used a
! little profane language there.
I don't catch il, what you said? I
think he used little profane language;
l would state that l had heard Mr.. "
| ms version of the matter so often that
1 did not remain in the room until all
the conversation was over; l HAD heard
his statements before.
Had you heard these statements be-
fore from him? Yes, sir.
To that same effect? Yes, sir.
Cross examination by Mr.. Evans:
You understood Mr. Wins to say that
he was stating ii was a damned
lie that he had undertaken to bride Mr.
Jackson? Or that either of them had.
Either of whom? Either Fisher or
WINS.
Didn't you understand Mr.: WINS to
mean that it was damned lie that he
himself had attempted to bride Jack
son? Ne, sir.
MEANT BOTH MEN.
Never heard him say that? No; I'M
derstood him to mean both OF them.
Did you ever hear Mr.. WINS say that
it was a damned lie that Fisher Harris
had attempted to bride him or McCune
had attempted to bride him? Only as
L have related.
You are favorable to Mr.. McCune, are
you: We'll, am in this way, haven't
any personal or political preferences in
this candidacy; l am a Republican;
haven't thrown any stumbling blocks in
his way
Fut as a Republican you prefer him
over any other Democrat? If L have a
preference, yes, sir.
So that you are favorable to McCune,
you are friendly TO him, aren't you?
Well. L don't know the gentleman to
speak to him, no more than to speak
to him.
You would do him favor if you
could, would you not? Not politically;
no. sir.
Well, what kind of a favor would you
extend to him if you could? 1 don't
know; 1 haven't been asked to extend
any favor to him and it would all de-
pend on what my facilities were for
granting favors-
Any trouble between you and Mr.
WINS? Nothing in the world, sir.
Do you regard Mr.. WINS as an I'M
truthful man? 7 have had the highest
regard for him and still have for that
matter
You think he is a man of integrity?
Yes sir; 1 will continue TO think so I'M
Ill the contrary is proven.
You 90 not question his truth or We
Iacity at all? l have not; l have not
questioned it.
That is what 1 am asking you: that is
what i mean; you do not question il at
all, do you? ] have been thinking very
seriously the last day or two, that is
all. IS
You are questioning it now, or you
Go question it a little, do you? No, 1
do not say that ! question his veracity
yet.
a man whose statements would be
taken with you as quick as most any
man, wouldn't they? Yes, certainly,
would up to the last very few hours
Up to the time that he told some
facts about Mr.. McCune whom you
would favor, if you had an oppOrtun-
ity? No, sir; L don't conceive it that
way.
Questions by Mr.. Van Colt:
Mr.. Reese, would you believe that Mr.
WINS is a truthful man if he denies
what you have stated here as what he
said that last Monday night? If he
should deny what j have said?
Yes, sir; would you believe he was
truthful then? No, sir.
Questions by Mr.. Evans:
Do you think that Mr.. WINS would
believe that you were a truthful man
because of the statements which you
have now made here against him? /
don't know that l have made any state
ments against him.
Well, answer the question? How is
that?
Do you believe that Mr.. WINS would
regard you as truthful man if he
knew the statements you have made
here, after what he has stated; it is
simply a question of veracity between
you and Mr. WINS, isn't it? 1 think it
is more than that.
How much more? Oh. couldn't say.
The testimony of A. n. Mckay was
to about the same effect as that of
Reese.
Fisher Harris testified that he heard
that jackson claimed TO have been ap-
preached on Saturday. two weeks ago
tomorrow.
Soren y. Christensen testified as to
a conversation held in the Vienna cafe
with Jackson, also as to asking him to
meet Fisher Harris, Nebeker. Rideout
and others, which appointments were
not kept by Mr.. Jackson.