The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1899-01-20
Dragnet of Investigation Will Take in
Wider Field.
Points Given by Yesterdays Witnesses May Lead
to Results Undreamed of When the Com
mittee Was Appointed


A. OF an evening, you know The gossip
in the street is talked about there, and
could not recall, really, who said it.
y Vas 1t one of your own workers?
A don t know. | don't think so.
=. You have a pretty good memory of
names. haven't YOU?
A. No; think l have got a poor mem
DRY of names.
Q. It seems to me so now
names.
Q. But cannot you remember what the
man looked like? Was it an old man?
a On, suppose there were twenty peo-
pie in the room when that statement was
made.
Q, Name somebody in the room when
that statement was made.
A. That l cannot tell YOU
The chairman-Was Mr.. Green present ?
A. | could not say that.
Q. Was Mr.. Grant present?
A l could not say l would say yes as
always present l think, in the general
room. However. it seems to me that Mr.
Brown could be sent for and asked
whether he did it or not. | don't remem-
Der who told me-
The chairman-I think, myself, Brown
might be sent for.
Mr.. Mellick-Well, you said that you
heard that Brown was intimidating?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You used the word ''intimidating"?
A: That is the word.
The chairman-The clerk will issue a
subpoena for Mr.. Brown.
Mr.. Mellick-Now, then, YOU saw that
You heard that a certain candidate was
sending to Los Angeles-spending how
much did you say? Five or six hundred
A. Oh, would say would estimate-I
understood they had sixty-one peopIe
here, and | estimated it would take five
or SIX hundred dollars day to keep them
going; and [ know that every session.
when they come to vote on joint ballot
each man has two guardians, who sit
beside him.
@ And how many people has Grant got
here?
A. A Grant, rant: Oh, I don't think he hasl
=. | mean on the payroll.
A Well, 1 don't know of any payroll.
g Do % not know of any payroll?
The chairman-Do you know of any
Mr.. Mellick-Do you know whether
James B. Kelly is on the payroll?
"A: l don't say L don't know of any
Q. Did you have conversation with
Mr. James B. Kelly regarding certain
legislators to vote for Grant?
a. Did l have a conversation?
Q. Yes.
A. No, sir
Q. Did you have a conversation with
pers to support Mr.: Grant?
a Certain papers? No, sir.
Q. Any paper?
A. No, sir.
@. Never had a conversation with him
in regard to Grants candidacy?
A. Oh, do not think there is any ques-
ton l have talked of Grants candidacy,
but certainly 1 never asked Mr. Kelly
to get any newspaper to support Mr.
Grant.
@. Well mean-or tried to influence
any legislator?
A. No, sir
Q. Well, to promote Grants candidacy
A. Well, Mr.. Kelly and I've didn't
have, never. talked to Mr.. Kelly about
members of the Legislature or newspa-
pers or anything of that character.
Q. Or Grants candidacy?
A. oh, yes; talked about Grants can
didacy.
Q. Wen. what did you say to him?
A. Well, I don't know-simply / thought
he was a good candidate; he thought he
was one, and 1 thought he was one, and I
over conversations and repeat what was
said.
Mr.. Mellick = Well, now, you knew
year ago. you say, that Colonel Burns
was going to be a candidate for United
States Senator?
A. I did not say L knew 1t. l said be-
lieved it,
O. And then that you planned Grants
campaign accordingly?
A. Very largely, Sir.
@ And what led you to believe that
Colonel Burns would be candidate?
A. l heard it in San Francisco.
Q. And who told you?
A. Oh, I don't remember who it was
told me. 1 don't remember who it was.
you-believing that Colonel Burns would
be the opposing Senatorial candidate
watched his acts pretty closely, SO far as
you know?
A Oh, no. I am not spy, you know.
@. But merely in general way, as you
say.
x. No, I don't know as I paid any par
ticular attention to him.
@. Well do you know of anything dur
ing the campaign that led you to believe
that he was snecially promoting his can
didacy during the progress of the general
campaign?
A. Do l know of anything that he was
doing?
he was spending money for special can
didates?
A. He as an Individual?
4. N HeS sir.
O. Now, then, you say that you were
one of the advisers of Mr.. Grant. Were
you one of the advisers that told him to
contribute this money directly to the
legislative candidates rather than to put
1t into the campaign fund of the State
Central Committee?
A. Well, don't recollect that advised
him that specifically; but If the question
was asked me / should certainly have adj
vised him not to have put it in the hands
of the Republican State Central Commit
tee.
9. On what ground?
A. On the ground that the chairman of
that committee was not for Grant: and
l don't think I would trust to the ex-
penditure of money to be scattered all
over the whole ticket when he had am
pie funds
O. Do you understand that Major Nc
Lauehlin was in any way sighting the
legislative ticket?
A. Do 1 understand that he was?
O. Yes.
A. oh. no; 1 never heard that
@. Well, then. If you had contributed
money to the State Central Committees
fund you would have just promoted the
whole ticket, rather than one special leg
islator?
A. / presume that might have been So
Mr.. Burnett-You say you made a num-
Der of trips throughout the State during
the campaign and before the campaign?
A. No sir
O. Well. you said that you made one to
Los Angeles?
A. I said l made several trips to Los
Angeles. l made two, I think, to Los
q. Who did you go to Los Angeles to
see?
A. l went down to Los Angeles to see
Mr.. Mosier on two occasions.
Mr.. Mellick-Moser? You mean L, E.
Mosier. editor of the Times?
A. Yes.