The labor world., 1899-07-08
rTN r. PENROSE, in the absence
Of positive proof what do you

of positive proof what do you
consider the best evidence o]
inmortality?"
'sIt is difficult, Mr.. Williams, to tell
what is best evidence. People
differ in their idea of evidence. Some
people consider that there was pur-
pose ix the creation of mankind. That
to make machine for the simple pur
pose of destroying it would be folly
and that to have brought into exist
ence the human family to be annihi
lated would be equal folly
"Another class of people have beer
diligent seekers after spirit commune
cation, have attended many spiritual
.eances, and are well satisfied thai
they have received intelligence from
departed friends through mediums"
''That is true, Doctor, but I am skep
tical. I am not disposed to accept o1
That which I do not understand.
connot conceive how spirits of the de.
parted can make themselves known to
people on earth.'''
.s1, we disbelieve, Mr.. Williams, all
we do not understands, we would shut
out much knowledge. With all oul
medical information we do not know
the cause of rheumatism, one of the
commonest of diseases. We do not
know anything about the origin OF
heat, we are totally ignorant as to
what constitutes the sun, the light.
ning's flash, the falling meteor, or
the Aurora Borealis. On every side we
are surrounded by the unknowablc.
the person to whom we speak over a
wire. a thousand miles away? How
are we able to generate a power, from
anaunseen force in this room by which
we can light a city, produce the most
intense heat, and move ponderous ma
cllnery many miles away? We are
every minute face to face with that
which we do not understand, and can
not explain
s'Yes, Doctor, I will admit all that.
L,ut that does not hinder me from
wanting to know. In the first place
I want to know how it, would be pos
sible for a spirit to make itself mani
fest. I will grant that we are created
and placed on this earth to begin an
existence that will always continue,
that death is but another birth, that
we know over there what we know on
earth. and that we start there as we
leave off here. We have talked that
over before You have explained it
and believe it. But how to demon
strate it is the point at which I aim
BY what law can my friend make him.
self known to me?'' -.
.aThrough the influence, Mr.. Will
1iams, of one mind acting upon an
other mind. Wes have great variety ol
thysica! constitution. Some of these
are highly susceptible to influence by
others. An eminent physician, named
Mesmer, many years ago demonstrate ted
that one mind could take control ol
another mind and could will the sub
iect to see objects and imagine condi.
tions according to the will of the oper.
a,or. Hypnotism is, mesmerism under
Il new name, and illustrates the power
Of one mind over another p
''What has hypnotism to do with
sriritualism, Doctor?"
lit illustrates, Mr.. Williams, no"
one mind can control another mind
the subject being perhaps long wa!
from the OPERATOR
swell, what of it?''
''Just this, Mr. Williams: If one
mind can control another mind, or Il
spirit in the body control the spirit
OF another in the body, the SUPPOSE
ton is that the controlling spirit, hav'
irg passed out of the body and into
spirit life, can return and, through
the same law by which intluenc, wa;
effected here, influence the person yet
on earth. the person on earth bein;
made to think. talk, sing and act Il:
the spirit influence shall direct
''What l., necessary, Doctor, i'll OF
der TO come under the influence o
the friend from the spirit land?"
''It is necessary that the person Dt
easily susceptible, to come under th'
control Of another, as illustrated il
hypnotism, and that the person, t.
receive influence, should become pas
si,c and seek to receive IMPRESSION"
''That is supposed to bc the condi