New-York tribune., 1899-05-18
Where do you i've now!

o.NSo' los Grand-st, brooklyn. A little louder.
Witness: can't hear YOU :, Are ,yn there any p%ot pS%
ICONS 10 my K knsowiedse' sSsii hsse ' - o,
o-Are there 1S amy ns that .sT are alleged 10 DC
rsSms can't 'GSs aSs that tell aDss Ss
Bet on the )" horse races in the last 1--WE or six
monthsY A.--well, ! couldn't tell the numbers
The f e0Tss Bossry a and ThSsv How DrGSspy %spE
about how many did you bet ing AZ A;-on' pr0'a''
'ys q ss or sa ssn' Tss % HSns
ton-at over a saloon? A. oOn was around Hous-
ssoons wai sSFs ean fs@eSsr Sas at s1
o'~Weil. was there one in Bond-st? Al can't
Ssnf%esl Syf couldnt SfaGSn remember exactly where
Q-was there one al No zol Eas1 dont re-
on Sn,hs You don't rsmemdsser rtss the exact exact
teenthlst? Al couldn't recall the number sir
There is one IN Thirteenth-s' think' near D'o"u-
"eoy "eoy'-That was No sS wasn't 1t? Al don't re-
nen9Tf oThere RE was one near Broadway; and wasn't
there one near Third-ave. in Thirteenth-s' odn,t
Well. there was couple In Thirteeh'n' oouN'
remember the numbers. ,,. ...h =, Was,
o-Was there not one on Thirty y-iourth-si' Wes' es
J think there was on Thirty-fourth near D'0"0
way somewhere.
TOO MANY TO REMEMBER
Ono loe. Do you remember the number? A
| don't remember the numbers. sir; II Is 50 o'e e'
| can't remember the numbers
o-Was there one at No. 500 Sxth-ave, over
wakeley's saloon? A.-There was two or three
on Sixth-ave. 1 can't remember uata,ev.s saloon
at Forty-second-st Al don't know the names
OF the places up there -. ,,o oorner Of Forty
second-st and sxh-ave was there s,ire not 7, Vas
FOrty5nrst , or poriysScffhne ibs SaTS there am
PoRight near the park exactly And was there there
net one T between Thirty fourth and Tnr-
ty.affh SITS? A-Yes. | think there was l thnK
one. was II IT %as s near Thiriyfoarthst o, .rv o,
o.-Were you member of any ciuo IN any Oh
these Biddcss you Know Of any clubs any Of those
places? Ain a couple Of places think saw a
sV5' oAt a Couple OF places you saw charter on
tne TST Rut did YOU know of any club meetings? A
o.Eor any club officers? A.-No, sir.
0-And YOU obtained admission, not being mem
her of any club? Ayes sir ,..Ao. t.,
,nose noolrooms rooms during the 1--WE six months?
Al would rather be excused from aisMelIhS ns nse
question 1t might incrminate me nave case
No you have already testified d IN bs tnah incT1 SaSe
nsted Snd but but there is resolution which we haven't
SAID much %oOdS SesS shall bs for
testimony that he gives here provdlng II Is Irutm I'M
tnl testimony You cannot be incriminateo Dy any any
confessions that you make here so ask you new
Row mucn money did you lose in these pooiroons!
A-Between $1,000 and 5000
LOST ABOUT $500.
O-Between $i,VO ana $tVv III theSe PO'"S -"
the last FIVE or six months? Ayes sir.
ODD you ever observe any police interference
IN these rooms while you were betting? A--No
o.-were they perfectly easy for you to get into?
Ono trouble at all How ala yog commence me SetS to
go what led you to do 1t? o5d A;-Uh o1 HSu Oe'"
Well ss your IN Psynf heye ass s On
y6 wsy PscaH HSd ad poa lost any money before that
playing the races in poolrooms? A'-No' just
a9Su' Iust TsteV even NJ up? A-About that yes. sir
Q.-How long have you been playing? A'-f1Ve
where have you played D1Sr to these %sed Te te
or six months? 5? 81, R,MWe" aov, frequently
'ey SS en- EScey; No s' -smsNSeT ANS sir the
owhereabouts? Al A., ,aHd GanS Sope peme'e' %p "'
nqmosT owe WhIe M H1 yo9 SoS WEI we're playing BE Laceys
these other S5v places TS payed n Be
A1Sw owI mean on PARK Row. While you were play
o~You didn't know of them? A-No; sir; ,o.,
re 90r fST as seSe yeu paSeS Know A don't
place was around the Bowery; followed the
SYou followed the eTSwdE az ,bs AYss time sir PeO
PocMso that it was noticeable on the street y1g
sow are looking for a poolroom can find Il.
OFF man knew the signs he could teH' A.
about the ShgT Rssei %ss lust FoT iSroush Ss ST
ae9aintance Tw in the pooroOm he took around
10 the other places. ...
Q-Showed you where the other places were
Ayes sir.
CROWDED WITH PLAYERS.
o-Apother man that was playing? Ayes. sir
O-Were there many people in these different
poolrooms you have mentioned? A great num-
Der.
oAnd other people PLAYING money ito to ch the
% Odd you hear the names, of any persons as
Of DOOlrOOmSI A
M. o'suliivanNYou have been gambling for five
or owEat sH {Esafi IS your regular businsss A-shoes
Q-Do you make them or sell them? A-Sei
9~Are you in business sdaSTr. now? A-NN iS('sd sir.
9YWny 9YoGy cannot % gve S US any more definite
to the AMOUNT Of money e you lost than that
o-That is as near you can give it? A-A'
near can give it, . .,...,.. ,o.,o s,,,,,s NJ
Sae2 on R3' ss sssa used iS sums
o.-For number OF years? YES .S ,,,,,re
houses that he read off to you? A.-No. sir;
oIpo you rensmber whether or not the list tina
he read of whether there are gambling houses
there. or not? Al knew was near the places
o,-Do you wish TO be understood as haytnt YIN
OS Il ssH & 2 played 5ns hs RsSeh
or six Of those places couldn't say those mum
Der not read off
GAMBLERS RUINED HIM.
o.-what is it? Al could not tell whethe
these were the right numbers or not because
don't remember any numbers
Q.-Some OF the places that were mentioned herr
you gambled in along in 1895. 1896 and 1894, even
A.-No. sir. -, e..
quented place on Park Row Recently he wa
taken up 10 these places
O-And as a consequence OF your losing l under
stand you failed in business? A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-And you complained of these places becaus
YOU lost? A.--No SIR have not complained.
Odd you ever complain Of these places whi
you were winning and coming out even as yol
have just described? Al have never compliance
of them
that found out his condition by knowing OF hi
case in bankruptcy. He did not know he was Z
be called here at all until he was subppnaed. H
has not made any complaint whatever.
Mr.. O'Sullivan-That Is all
Mr. Moss-Mr. Goldsmith.