The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1898-03-17
HAWAII AND CUBA
ARE DISCUSSED.
Wide Range Of Debate Over the
Postofice Appropriation.
MR.. GROSvEN0R'S STATEMENT.
He Denies That the President Is Try
ing TO Induce Congress to Get out
of His Way i'm Settling Our In
ternational Difficulties.

WASHINGTON. March 1.-THE post
office appropriation BILL which was the
technical subject before the House. was
almost lost track Of i'm the debate to-
day. As on yesterday numerous topics
were introduced to-day for the first time
touching on the Spanish-Cuban question
which has been kept in the back ground
The subject of Hawaiian annexation
also came in for more attention to-day.
Mr. Williams Dem. of Mississippi was
first recognized and in Il speech of forty
minutes replied 10 the speech made by
Mr.. Tawney yesterday in favor of Ha-
waiian annexation. Mr.. Williams is
member Of the Foreign Affairs Commit
tee. and his remarks received close at
tention. lie directed his attack particu-
larry against the contention of Mr. Taw-
ney that the traditional policy OF this
government was not opposed 10 annexa-
tion. He thought there was no occasion
for alarm even If It were true that If we
should not take the islands some other
country would. The idea Of the foreign
ownership of a group Of Islands 1000
miles from our shores had no terrors for
him.
HAD ENOUGH OF THEM.
lie said the Hawaiian Islands were
now IN the control OF a carpet-bag oil
garchy. The states Of the South had un-
dergone a bitter experience with carpet
bag government and did not desire to
endorse 10 anywhere. The Hawaiian Is
lands would be a menace instead OF a
safeguard 10 the United States. This
country already had a race problem. TO
take the Hawaiian Islands would be 70
annex another race problem and pay 81
600 eco for the privilege Of doing IT,
Mr.. Cochran Dem Of Missouri in
commenting on the existing situation,
declared that those who stood close 70
the stock tickers i'm London and New
York seemed 20 be moro powerful than
the united and solemn voice OF the Amerl-
can people. which for months had been
crying out for the recognition OF the
Cuban bellgerents. Stock jobbers on two
continents had so far proved 20 be the
only actual Intervention in Cuban AFFAIRS
do you not believe we should recognize
the independence Of CubaY asked Mr.
Sulzer Dem. OF New York;.
Il do not" replied Mr. Cochran. "Ihe
recognition OF belligerency would clothe
the insurgents with sufficient power 10
negotiate honorable peace. If we should
intervene our troubles would have just
begun. fear IL the administration
should interene II would be as the at
torney OF the bondholders rather than as
the friend OF the insurgents
In conclusion. Mr.. Cochran referred 10
the current rumor that the President
Hesired an immediate adjournment IN
order that he might be able to settle the
Spanish affair without interference from
Congress.
GROSVENOR'S STATEMENT.
Mr.. Grosvenor (Rep. OF ohio replied
10 this statement Immediately. Al first
he spoke in semi-humorous vein He
hi uf 10
ment in reply 10 this story which was
floating around 10 the effect that the
President was about to take the House
Of Representatives by the throat. abolish
the United States Senate and proceed to
the settlement Of all our foreign com
plicatiOns without the aid Of the repre-
sentatives Of the people II should be
remembered, he continued. in weighing
such reports. that Congress was an indie
pendent power. the existence OF which
could not be ended under the Constitution.
II would probably continue longer than
the Cuban question.
Mr.. Grosvenor said he spoke Of this
matter with some hesitation because af-
ter reading the newspapers n sometimes
doubted his independent existence. When
he spoke for himself they insisted he
spoke for somebody else. He did not
pretend TO knsw more than the humblest
citizen yet he said he took the respon-
sibiity Of stating that the suggestion
that the President had fixed a date for
the adjournment Of Congress or desired
10 fix date or had expressed hope
that Congress would adjourn by Ger
tain date was absolutely without tOun-
dalton and ridiculous into the bargain.
Congress could not adjourn except by a
majority vote OF its members and he had
no doubt that every member responsible
to his conscience and his country would
do his duty as he saw II, in the matter
of adjournment as in everything else.
TRIBUTE To MKINLEY.
Mr.. Norton Dem. of Ohio who follow
ed Mr. Grosvenor paid a high tribute 10
the patriotism and judgment OF the
President. II left to himself TO exercise
his Judgment. MT Norton said. he would
be glad to follow. but he feared that
Mr.. Mckinley was beset as Grant had
been when he wished 10 recognize the
INDEPENDENCE OF Cuba by a trOcha which
required the genius OF a god 10 surmount.
lie declared that Il was the duty Of Con-
gress to remain at it's post and see what
was 10 be done. II war was not upon us
Congress had made a mistake, he said.
I'm practically abdicating its powers and
placing $4,000 co i'm the Presidents hands.
II II was uIon us IL was right that the
President should give back 10 Congress
the confidence it had reposed in him. r.
respective Of party. Congress wanted 10
know II il was peace or war
Mr.. Slayden Dem Of Texas contribu-
Ted something TO the controversy rela-
tive ~ the advantages possessed by the
southern cotton bills. The debate then
drifted back 10 the bill aud the House