The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 18??-19??, 1898-09-20
COL WEBSTER WRITES
He Presents AffidayIts Sup
PORTING His Testimony
DID DR.. KILGO SAY IT?
Several Gentlemen testify
that Col. Webster Quoted
Him Correctly.
ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS BABY RANCHES ?
Col. Webster and Others Say that DR.. KiIgo
Said They Were Also the Places 10 Go
and Find Vice and immortality,

The following communication from
DR.. kilgo, appeared i'll Il recent issue OF
the News and Observer.
I'm Judge CIark's speech. published i'll
your paper issued yesterday, he drags
ii false statement into his u]tterances
concerning Colonel j. s. Carr, of Dur
ham. just why Judge Clark should re
sort TO such methods | am unable to
say. He never asked me about this
matter, nor was it in any way involved
in the investigation.
"While the marshals were decorating
the hall for the last commencement |
WIS busy in my office. preparing my
report for the trustees. | WAS requcst-
ed to 60 to the hall and settle Il dispute
that had arisen. l did not know the
cause of the dispute. but when | reach
ed the hall | found it was concerning Il
picture of Colonel J. $. Carr. | said to
the maIshals: Take the picture back
to the Society Hall. We will not hang
it This was the only remark made,
as Brother X. J.. Flowers and DR.. w.
L. Few will state. both being present.
The only object in view being to ad-
just Il little controversy. No such unkind
ltlfldlh dS Ju'St Vain ltlI'ilS
made of Colonel J. S. Carr. 1t happen
ed to be his portrait. otherwise the same
thing would have been done concern
ing any other portrait.
Colonel J. S. Carr has bestowed rich
benefactions on Trinity college. and it
has never been the aim of the college to
wound him; but orders have always
been given to invite him to the r0Strum.
His benefactions have always been
recognized and appreciated as the litera-
ture of the college will show. | make
this statement because it is due Colonel
Carr and myself. Colonel Carr has not
been Il party to this controversy, and the
attempt to falsely drag him into it is a
scheme unworthy of any one.
'JNO. c. KILGO.
/. S.-Sincc writing the above [ have
learned that the portraits of Messrs. b.
\. Duke and ]. Southgate were taken
out at the same time and were not
hung in the hail. ]. c. X.
Trinity College, \. c.
Mr.. Lindsey Ellington, Of ReidsviIle.
a student at Trinity college, and a
young man of the highest character,
knows all the facts as to the picture in
cident. Mrs. pegram insisted that the
picture should be given Il place of honor,
when was vigorously opposed by Mrs.
Bassett. \ war of words ensued and
DR.. Kilgo was sent for to decide the
matter. Mr.. Ellington Il he came in
white with rage. stamped on the floor
and ordered him to take Colonel Cars
picture out. saying it was not fit to ne
hung i'll his cellar. Mr.. Ellington re
fused to do so and walked out. He has
repeated this statement to his two
u%ncles. McSsrs. William and Joseph
Lindsey, and Rev. S. II. billiard, of this
No one who knows him believes
him capable of doing Il mean act. There
is not Il purer young man i'll the State.
Again DR.. Kilgo. i'll his speech before
the Board of Trustees i'll the so-called
Clark-kilgo investigation denied, your
reporter said. most vchcmently the
truthfulness of my affidavit in said case.
the following is the affidavit:
Estate of North Carolina.
buckingham County.
John X. Webster. being duly sworn,
says he is Il citizen of Rockingham
county, State of North Carolina. that
he heard DIR. Kilgo i'll II lecture at Madi-
son i'll 1897. SAY that the kindergarten
or primary department of the graded
schools were baby ranches into which
people NiO tolt1d NOT oI NOilt not con-
troll their children pitched them to be
rid of the responsibility of their care and
restraine, and that if he was hunting
for vice and immortality, he would not
go into the ignorant sections of this
State, commonly called dark corners. but
he wou-I go into the graded schools and
the other Christless institutions of learn
ing.
lSigned.)
JOHN L. WEBSTER"
Sworn to before me. this 22nd day of
August, 1891, w. c. Staples, Notary
Public.
The affidavit of Mr.. J. Z. McNIichael
of Madison. was offered to the same eff
feet. Read what Colonel John NJ. Gal
laway. so we'll and favorably known III
over the State. says of him:
madison, \. c.. Sept. 6. 1898.
L have known Mr.. ]. 2. McNIichael
for several years. and take pleasure il
testifying that his genera character
for veracity is very good. His state
ments are entitled to belief.
JOHN NJ. GALLAWAY."
We respectfully submit the followin.
additional testimony in regard to wha1
kilgo said about the graded schools:
Madison, \. c.. Sept. It'll. 1898.
"R. q. Carter being duly sworn. says
that he heard DIR. Kilgo's lecture in the
town of Madison during the year 1897
and in said lecture he said that tn,
primary department of the Gradet
schools of the State were baby rancho,
into which parents who could not O.
would not control their children nitcbo,
them to be rid of the responsibility O
their care and restraint. and that If Il,
was looking for Vice and immor,l4r \,
would not go into Nthe ignorant section
of the State, commonly called the darl
sections, but that he would 90 into ~