The San Francisco call., 1898-04-13
GpOSVenOr of Ohio Ex= plains the Message
 to the House.
Warm Debate, During the Course of Which the Purpose of
 Mckinley Is Declared.

states, 10 send lHelT DllIeIu dliO lilCiA opposition across the waters to our enc. mics. The gentleman shall have full opportunity to abuse his own constitu- ents at home for any conservative eX- pressions which they may have made through the telegraph or the mall, and ne shall have that opportunity, unaffected by answers of mine. wish here simply to say that the President has asked Of Congress the power to use the army and the navy for the purpose of establishing in the island of Cuba an independent government.
 Lentz-Why did he not say so?
 Grosvenor-Will my friend from Ohio try for minute to keep his mouth shut?
 Cannon-.oh. that is impossible. lAp- sde)
 Hanley D) of Delaware-I would like to know what you understand the Presi- dent to mean by this sentence in his mes sage: Tt involves. however, hostile con- straint upon both the parties to the con test well as to enforce a truce to guide the eventual settlement"
 Grosvenor-You had better go and ask the President. daughter and applause on the Republican side)
 Gaines-Don't you think you had better so and see Hanna? (Derisive jeers on the Republican Side)
 Grosvenor-There comes in another ex- hibition. Naughter) Now, let me re- state my proposition. 1 state that the President of the United States has asked for the use of the army and navy to es- tablish on the island of Cuba an inde- pendent government ana mas Salo so III the plainest kind of English language. (Cries of ''Where?" on the Democratic side.) After a great deal of trioulation l am going to give the gentlemen on the other side a demonstration of every state ment which l make. You will ind this language used by the President, and 1 will leave 1t to the most acute analytical mind on the other side to say IT that IS not a proposition to establish on the isl- and of Cuba a government independent of Spain.
 In view of these facts and of these considerations, I ask Congress to author ize and empower the President to take measures to secure a full and final ter imitation between the Government Of Spain and the people of Cuba and to secure in the island the establishment Of a stable government, capable of main taining order anu observing It's national obligations.
 side to tell me how a government on an island of any country controlled by a foreign country, as Cuba IS now, can nave a government capable Of d1scharglng It's international obligations? What are inter national obligations? Do colonies have international obligations?
 Did the President understand that there can be colonial condition in Cuba by which there would be international obligations from that Government?
 What international act does Canada do? What international act has any of the West India Islands ever done? What rep representative of this Government goes to Jamaica, Porto Rico or any island ex- cept those independent? The very lan- guage of the President. as understood by every intelligent American and man of thought is that the object and purpose of using force is to establish government with international obligations. So the whole appeal of the gentleman from Ohio is like the picture of painted ship on painted ocean. Laughter on Republican side.l
 The time Is coming very rapidlylt will be here, I trust, to-morrow-when, under the guidance of the Committee on For eign affairs, this House will take action, and 1 will suggest to the gentlemen on the other side that there will be degree of patriotism, a degree of unanimity of that viii surprise the gentleman when he looks over the votes that will be taken here tomorrow. (Great applause on Re- publican side.)
 MT. Bailey, the Democratic leader, replied to General Grosvenor in brief speech, which aroused intense enthu- siasm on the Democratic side. It was somewhat remarkable, he said, that the President, in sending to Congress one of the most important messages upon one of the most exciting ques- tions which had been before the coun- try in years, had concluded with a rec ommendation so ambiguous that it could be the occasion of controversy. Other portions of the message showed that the President was a master of clear and lucid English, yet in pre- senting his recommendation he had done so in words that taxed the inge- nuity of the gentleman from Ohio to make clear what he meant If the President meant the freedom and in- dependence of Cuba, why had he not said so? MT. Bailey continued:
 I do not believe that the President de- liberately yelled his meaning, and In say ing that I do him more credit thar others on this floor. l believe If the President had designed the establishment of free Cuba he would have said so: Why did he say stable government? A stable government and an independent govern ment are vastly different. No one doubts that Canada possesses a stable govern ment, but every intelligent man knows 1t Is not an independent government. I do not doubt that Spain could establish a stable government. It could make a desert and call 1t peace
 No one could deny that the President had asked for authority to send the army and navy to Cuba to restore peace When our forces arrived the Spaniards would say: we are at peace; our arms are stacked; 1t Is the insurgents who are at war. Then the agents of the Presi- dent would be compelled, under the au- thority he asks, to say to the insurgents: stack your arms; retire to the fields where you nave for three years struggled erty.'
 Mark my words, no President that sends the army ana navy of the United States to force the patriotic soldiers of Cuba to lay down their arms will live, or will his children live, to survive the odium which the American people will fix upon him. (Great applause on Democratic side and in galleries.)
 A few minutes later the House ad- journed.