The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1898-01-14

man from ltlcnnoHo, WI" 'h''" 49,
bill. wants IT 20 read Russia. Irukey
and Virginia
"You whip your kids" interrupted MI
Pitcher. OF Fauauicr
yes " Tetorted Mr.. Wallace. and "hen
YOU were a kid you were whipped, but
YOU have outgrown parental lashes' me
great argument against this bill u that IL
Is barbarous and inhuman ana can
proyc this out OF the bill itself. "hlch
has been drawn by the gentleman from
Richmond. II provides that TO stripes
shall be applied to women ana persons
over sixty years Of age. DO you HIM
this distir ction about the imprisonment
Of people? Stripes are harbarous dhu III
human. 80 =. 49,.
case these striues shall be applied IN
public" oil.
Neither is hanging done In public
remarked Mr.. Parker.
no. Sir" replied Mr. Wallace Cdp'-
tai punishment is cruel too ana IL VIII Dc
outgrown by society. | dare 10 say theIe
is not q man in this House. VINO "oui"
not feel like interfering II he Should near
q child being whipped in an adJoihins
,oom and he certainly would not want 10
hear criminal whipped
II the cries came from a criminal VINO
was Justly whipped. said MI Parker
then certainly no one would want TO IN
terfere IN his behalf. lie himself "oulu
not for any amount Of money ike 10 see
"A man hanged. unless duty compeheu
him 20 do so. but he would certainly not
interfere with the execution.
Mr.. Wallace then continued rms
hanging that has been In force for many
wears. has TO a large extent eliminated
IL In, world
has made il purer. At this time II would
be almost as well 10 hang a man for
thieving as TO give him stripes. what IS
the great argument in favor OF this Dill +.
IL is that IL IS cheap and will reduce the
expenses of the State. But the champions
Of this bill cannot say how much the eN-
penses will be reduced by this bill.
DO / understand the gentleman 10
say" asked Mr.. H. Is. owen. OF Marches
ter. that he is opposed to capital punish
ment?"
Yes. under certain conditions" re-
piled Mr. Wallace.
THE position OF his necktie Is very suC-
gestive," added Mr.. owen before taking
his seat and brought down the house. for
he called attention 10 the fact. that Mr..
Wallace's necktie had slipped from his
collar and occupied about the same posi-
ton as the moose would round the neck
Of a criminal who was about 10 be exc
cuted.
when times are as hard as al present ~
continued Mr.. Wallace you want to I'M
pose greater punishment. but I'm doing 50
YOU will not decrease crime Better re-
duce the severity of the punishment and
ameliorate the condition OF society and
crime will decrease. We have been given
hut haf fcypf 40 cyfV 81
thing. How many criminals have been
convicted in Virginia OF petit larceny
during a year? How many days of i'm
prsOnment do they serve?
HIS VIEW ABOUT MINISTER'S.
IF this bill becomes law there will
be more appeals under the new Inv taken
TO the higher courts than at present. fer
the criminal will have greater fear Of
punishment. but this will not decrease
crime. The whipping post has been
abolished IN every Christian country. You
oppose cheapness 10 manhood.
1T has been said that tho ministers
are in favor Of the bill. II | thought that
20 he so T might oppose the hill for this
very reason. for ! do not want 10 see the
ministers take any sides in politics.
Ministers are humanitarians. remark
I'd Mr Parker.
They are not always humanitarians
replied Mr.. Wallace. They serve a pur-
pose. Give us some other reason than
cheapncss. In oden times. when the pun
ishment was most severe. crime was most
rampant"
When Mr.. Wallace had ended. Mr.. Pill
cher. Of Fauquier moved that the House
do adjourn. but the motion was lost by a
vote Of % 10 %.
Mr.. r. c. Folkcs. OF this city. was next
recognized by the Chair. After making
his excuse to Mr. Pitcher Tor speaking
and saving that he would no doubt make
as much impression on him as he had
heretofore on an empty seat. Mr.. Folkes
said.
This is a question upon which we are
honestly divided. Those Of us who favor
the passage Of this bill do not like 10 see
the criminals lashed but we believe that
such bill will lessen the expenses OF
the state md create purer morals. IL
this bill is so CHASTITY why mas not bill
been introduced TO abolish the appliance
of stripes in the penitentiary or In the
Laurel Reformaiory2 There It Is called
discipline and ! want some OF that disci-
plinc applied in the city Jail
When a. negro down in the yards OF
the Chesapeake and Ohio railroad takes
a scuttle Of coal IL is called stealing. but
when one Of those htgh-toned kid-gloved
fellows takes from the vaults Of bank
the sum Of 5000 then they call IL ele-
waited. refined kleptonnnia.'
Mr.. Folkes next read from John y.
Minors Synopsis OF Criminal Law what
the writer has 10 say Of the appliance Of
stripes. which he advo ,ates in calling IL
a speedy punishment. short and sharp
and which might often be repeated.
VERY often" continued Mr.. Folkes,
you ind more people paying more at
tention TO the pathetic SIDE Of ten-cent
novel than 10 the cries or widows and
orphans. ] have seen fr'm the morning
uapers that one OF the directors OF the
Laurel Reformaiory says that 10 Is some
times necessary to whip the boys at that
Institution. And yet YOU wan TO tell me
that can't whip great big buck down
in the city jail
This is the first thing ] have seen I'M
the line Of retrenc lunent and reform. al
though | have heard a great deal OF tax
about the latter During rhe nrst even
ing / was here / heard some proposition
OF cutting down the salary of poor Ar
thur Sullivan Qhe aSsis ant sergeant-at-
arms). DO you want 10 cut down the
salaries Of honest people or whip thieves
TO cut down expenses?
our Auditor Cf Public Accounts re-
ceives 5000 year. Do you wam 10 cut
his salary down 10 81 90 and give him a
fiddle and a bow and let him 90 around
the State 10 make the balance IN tnat
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