The times., 1898-09-19


Your position in the Philippines is
almost parallel with the cne we faced
in Egypt. Lord Herschen said, Why not
get out?' But / said, How can we get
out?'
Cuba? Oh, that's entirely different. /
took the Philippines as an extreme in
stance. They have some idea of govern
ment there. A protectorate? No; 1 do
not believe IN halfway measures. Why
not do the job thoroughly"
''You must begin to appreciate the
enormous potenuality of the Oriental
trade. All we want is equal chances in
China. If you do not participate in max
Ing peaceful representations in the premi-
ses, not threats, We must go ahead alone
and you must not complain if you are
left out in the cold afterward. Our policy
is open ports That's ALL
These are some of the utterances of
Joseph Chamberlain made to an inter
viewer in the course of long conversa-
uon al the Endicott home, near DAN
hSsSs MASS laSb Wteh-
The British secretary of state for the
colonies is sixty-two years old, but does
not look a day more than forty-five.
Alert dignified, courteous, and diplo-
matte, he is a delightful conversationalist
For a week he has been resting at the
home of ex-Secretary of War William c.
EndicOtt, his father-in-law. AS the ad-
r1inistratire head of the greatest colonial
empire in the world, his observations
upon the new territorial problems con-
fronting this country carry weight.
Aa AngIo-Saxon Alliance.
AS an avowed friend of the United
States and the author OF this sentiment,
Il would go so far as to say that, ter
rible war may be, even war itself
would be cheaply purchased if in a great
and noble cause the Stars and Stripes
and the Union Jack should wave together
over an Ang!o-Saxon alliance his views
are certain 10 be interesting.
He said very distinctly that he could
not be placed in the position Of coming
over TO tell the American people their
business. He wanted 1t thoroughly
derstood that he had no advice to give
and shrank even from rendering sugges-
tions. When reminded that he had said
OF America in a public speech, There is
6 powerful and generous nation, speaking
our language, bred of our race, and hav-
ing interests identical with ours, he
yielded and said:
Wen, that is true To go no further
back than the Armenian troubles, we
and you alike looked with horror upon
women being outraged, children massa-
cred, and men beaten by a cruel almost
barbaric potentate 1t was no feeling of
territorial aggression that moved US. Call
il sentiment, or what you win, we and
you could not stand idly by Dc you sup
pose if America had sent two naval yes
sels there" he exclaimed, talking rap
Idly, but very distinctly, that the other
powers would not very quickly have
yielded 10 joint representations on our
part and yours?"
Then, reiterat ting his intention not to be
put in a false position. he said impulsive-
ly, Il don't want TO gush. There's no oc-
casion for weeping on your shoulder. You
are seventy millions and aple to take care
of yourself. / only want to point out the
Identity of our interests and yours.
The Philippines aud Egypt.
1T isn't aggression. They cali England
a nd-grabber and all that. Now, your
position in the Philippines and ours with
regard TO Egypt are almost parallel. The
Anglo-Saxon everywhere looks at things
the same way"
Then he proceeded to emphasize the
point further All over the world civili-
EatiCn was being advanced by the Eng
disappearing people. Slavery was being
abolished. Christianity being spread,
waste places cultivated on every hand.
Yes. a few hundred were killed, but
that meant that thousands were saved
as a result Cannibalism in Africa, wild
ow-burninE in India, had been eliminated
through the inevitable march of civiliza-
ton Peace and order were the watch
words of England and America One
could not stand the instability of the
Ehedive and stepped in to preserve or
der; the other could not stand the afro
cities. .perpetrated almost on the doorstep
and interfered 10 free a people. There
had been some talk about America hav-
ing Interior motiyes-that was nonsense
Not even the extremists of this country
who were impatient for hostilities. had
contemplated the seizure Of the Philip
pines, the conquest of Porto Rico, or the
other results OF the war.
You can never Judge a people by the
extremists. said he; they never move
q nation.
What about the Philippines, Mr.
Chamberlain"
Your country is growing; you can't
resist its development For hundred
years YOU have followed Was.ington's
advice ] do not think you can find an
other instance in history where one mans
word has been 50 followed. Il has been
treated as an inspired utterance. But
conditions have vastly changed. 1t is not
supposable that Washington would have
maintained the same attitude if conditions
had essentially altered, as they must
have altered in a hundred years.
Colonial Expansion Permissible.
Your Constitution does not forbid the
idea Of growth and expansion. 1t pro-
vides for the disposition of new territory
and other property OF the United States"
He was asked how the situation should
be faced. In reply he said speaking
wholly as an outsider, a spectator, not an
adviser. the situation was similar to the
Egyptian problem England faced. The
United States could not shirk its respon-
sibilities any more than England could.
You can't get out any more than we
could get out OF Egypt. You can't hand
the islands over to Aguinaldo. The ma
tives are SO unused to self-government
so far I'm the rear Of America and Eng
land they cannot be left 10 themselves
There would be outbreaks, then revolu-
tions, then anarchy. You say, Hand
them over TO England but how do you
know we should want to take them?
Russia, France, Germany are jealous, but
not of you. Your keeping the islands
would not mean such readjustment of
conditions as if any other power had