The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1898-06-26
THE WORKINGMEN
AND THE CHURCH.
Mr.. Dyer Talks of the Alienation OF
the Wage Workers.
THERE Is A DISSENTING VOICE.
The Speaker Had the Larger and More
Sympathetic Audience and the
Opposer Was Emphatically
Voted Down.
THERE is A DISSENTING VOICE.

NORFOLK, VA, June 25.-Speeial-At
the Epworth League Convention In the
Academy OF Music, this morning, the
chief speech was made by Rev. q. w.
Over. OF Danville. whose subject was The
Alienation OF the Wage Workers from
the Churches" He said in part: Tho
ueople don't wish to hear the same old
things in the same old way. ! am rot
willing to listen to any man VINO VIII
preach for an hour or pray for ntteeh
minutes. No man can have that much
10 say. The people wish to hear some
thing new.
wesley did whatever would save the
neople. what would help them, what
would excite the interest or attract tne
attention OF the people. Preachers arc
not prepared now 10 I'LL the city churches.
IL may not be our fault, because we
do not obtain the proper teaching. There
Is not college nor seminary IN the
South where the need OF social science
is recognized.
PEOPLE ARE TIRED.
zone reason the people do not come
to church is because they are tired Of
IT. They have heard all tho preacher
is going 10 cay in the same old way
and they know precisely how he Is going
to say II. and what he intends TO say.
The mission OF the Church Is 20 teach
the gospel TO the people. one minister
who has crowds 20 hear him told me
that he got his idea from crank. He
reads new books He zeads the up-to-
date literature and goes among the peo-
pie TO learn what they are talking about
Their interests are his interests. These
subjects should be introduced IN the
course OF the collegesA 50 that the preach
ers could talk lnte,ligently on the sub-
jects about which the people are inter-
ested. He said the Methodist Church
must continue 20 work among the poor
people 10 must stand by the people. Ire
cultivated might leave. but II the 'hu-ch
were successful II must fight he battle
OF the cross among the poor Deopie' III
not. God would leave the Church.
OUT OF ORDER.
There was considerable applause, amid
which DR.. II. r. Johnson, OF the cum
berland- Street Methodist church arose
nnd demanded attention. Or. Johnson
said he knew he was out OF order out
he wished 20 dissent from the sentiment
which prevails and to the address JUST
delivered.
There Is not the antagonism between
the workingmen and the church that In
represented by either.
The chairman called Dir. Johnson 70
order telling him that he would be heard
later But that did not suit. He con-
,inued TO speak amid the applause that
was intended 20 stop him. DR.. Garland
got attention TO make motion 20 sus-
pend the regular order for the purpose OF
allowing DIT Johnson to speak.
Several other speakers appeared for
and against the motion. none OF whom
was heard distinctly amid the confusion
Meantime, DIR. Johnson replied 10 one
OF them who made a speech OF depre-
catory Cancellation. recommending some
other time. with emphasis. now or
never"
On a vote which was not satisfactory
and decision which was emphatic. amid
applause. Dr. Johnson was refused OPP
portunty TO make reply.
DR. Garlaud's notion was lost and the
regular order wHa resumed.