The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1898-02-23
CURRENT SPORTING TALK.
WlNLoN MAKES FURTHER REMlRES
ABOUT THE KICHERS.

Sptho puiiiVnn,s victory over GPespnsld.
Manager Hanlon Of the BaltimoroC Club was still
In town yesterday, and when he had read over
his interview in THE SUN. In which he came out
strongly in favor OF stopping all kicking, he said:
"That suits me, and / know the public will
understand my true position, for i mean all I
cay. I would like to add one or two points,
though, that may be Of interest. In the old days.
when I was playing ball with tho Detroit Club,
q player jeoparded his existence in tho League
TO stop q game and wrangle with tho umpire.
Honest John Kelly was the kingpin umpire In
those days, and no was all.poworful. 1 romem-
Der tho time he fined Capt. Arson over 800
during q game at Detroit, which created no end
of talk. The League, however. upheld HIM, and
the fno was paid. There was, OF course. somo
little protesting against decisions, but 1t was
always done in n nice way. ] was in the habit
OF saying to an umpire, while l was at the bat,
n no called n wide ball a strike:
-That was n bit outside tho corner. Mr..
Umpirc!' But that was all. / didn't even turn
around and face him when l made the ommen
Such remarks were frequently made BY the more
Re%ntlemanly players and they did u great deal
of good, for tho umpires. realizing that the
words were spoken In q spirit OF friendly advice.
tried to profit by them. IN many casos umpires,
after declaring players out at second base on an
attempted steal. would say to q man as he
walked In to the bench:
"'Did he touch you down there2 thought
he did md SO called you out!
".He touched me all right or He didn't get
. the ball on me- would be u players honest an
pwer, made in a quiet way, and the umpire
generally made an extra effort 20 be more caro-
full after that. Those were good old times In
deed, when ball games were moro pleasant to
take part In and more agreeable to falr.minded
spectators than they have been of late. There
was no rowdyism, and when n player made a
subdued remark to an umpire about a decision
It was only explanatory and related to the
closest kind Of a ruling. There was 10 surround
ing the umpires and grabbing them by the
throat. No Improper language was used. and
the games were played quietly"
In preventing kicking in the future IN a.,
stop the evil, but the umpires must be compe.
tent and also have courage to enforce the rules.
II they do, and they are protested by any club
President, tho public should know, which club
30 ct fault. The umpires should be close students
many disputes arise over the Ignorance OF both
players and umplres regarding the meaning Of
m lnS tO for kicking and f"dif lss g%S IfuifV eondupot, and
that Is expulsion from tho game. n Th s,, system
Of Of fines is rr useless, as Nv we n hnye all b found hoy. @Gt
bone enough to rule kickers off the field
and the club owners who are paying salaries. to
these same kickers will soon call them down for
not playing ball all the time. am in favor of
seeing the umpires do their duty In such a man
start am also In favor Of suspcnding certain
notorious rowdies for tho balance of the season.
99eDntt Of she 81 League alter being convinced that
the act is based upon necessity, There are some
players in the League who kick to hold their
3obe, because their playing days are over. These
arc she men the League should get after. be-
cause they are chronic Offenders and set a bad
example for the youngsters who come into the
League every year"
Several of the club owners. who favor reform.
are confident that, tho abolition OF the Temple
Cup series. which was effected at the last
tempers Of the players. They say that the de-.
sire 70 split up the large gate receipts during the
sssn three esf yisrs made v the %sn IN On the aSsi ssrI Fisss
against umpires. because every time q judge of
play, gave q close decision against one Of the
leading teams he was either roughly handled or
mobbed by the crowd. The fact that the players
In the Boston, Baltimore and New York teams
eet forth as being . sufficient reward for their
beat display Of skill without the hanging up Of
bali playing in the League and Better Behavior
all around before the Temple trophy was put
Fave 81 W Watched senSasaIy the su rame anS It's evoIu %en M fop
years.
With Hanlon of Baltimore out Of 1t as q pos
siole candidate for tho late G. H. Byrne's place
Rogers Of Philadelphia and possibly Freshman
efEew York. Ebbets has many friends in the
place. not only because he Is the successor to
8yrne, but also for the reason that he 10 con-
n ia' the pr 70 es iae + Thoosses who Sf,sa are op SS . to h 3im
IEsthSSs q, lnS Coma sssrs IL view .s q r. TSsI isSs shs 4
the Brooklyn Club for seventeen, years,
and . has o, been bee lat. e FpssIs.Dt " u the sH o1ss, w the
was pnexcelled ss q League politician. Eb5etS
b. has been sna F ! . aoc as an expert s est p sehe,SSls
Young draw up. the League dates. Ho 10 also
well versed in baseball law. John /. Rogers.
smother a able man for h place, but It Is thought
that he does not possess enough influence with
The sSsu TTSn SSsayo K R,a ,9 po1lt IL th Srs Sssth; u sas Ss ss
mentioned az Q candidate in several quarters,
but he has refused to say whether he would 40
cept tho ofioe or not.
College rowing cEitics in some quarters still
New london. The SUN pointed out the other
was arranged In such q manner teHt there win
be z similar contest next year. Prot. Wheeler
confirmed The suN's statemept By saying:
1T 10 not to be understood that either Cornell
Fl s ssn H and s' ss 3 ftG% sHs egRS siHlt ! a FROM te osn,:
Whitney practically reopened tho negotiations
and ta SI. FSw,sS I, P1 = Srfsn q the %. swe un EurnaIi e
and Yais 10 apparently so."
The victory of Spike Sullivan of Boston over
Harry Greehneld. the English lightweight. be-
s SIssn seS s tSs deei sR6Ts'6 6EIo UiS SsiS Ss dSnS u Tf in
the ntteenth round. From what tho winners
brother, Dave Sullivan. said the other day, Spike
must have won considerable money, as he 10 in
and keeping his winnings, too. Sullivan has
climbed, the ppgilistio ladder rapidly and Is
about due 70 fight some of tho crack light
weights on this side Of tho water, He is about
but he can punch hard and is game to the core.
His last bout here before going to England was
brooklyn deliberately fouled him and lost. Sui.
Ivan has engaged In many ring contests. and
received ct the detdnct bohemian Sporting
practical novice. Three weeks later. though,
Sullivan met O'Keefe again, and the former
knocked his man out in eight rounds. Sullivan
scorns the services of a manager. and Is reputed
TO have saved a small fortune. which no has
made by winning hghts and wagering on vari-
GUS sporting events. He is one OF the characters
OF the prize ring.
Freshmen Football Piny ers or Harvard Receive
n Cup.
CAMBRIDGE. Feb. 22.-Each member of the
Harvard freshmen football eleyan has recaivad