The record-union., 1898-12-03


ne told him that he could not speak for
the company; that he was not authoriz-
ed to say that the Southern Pacific
Company would support him, and that
nothing but the unanimous consent of
his clients would secure any favorable
action ON his part.
1t appears that throughout the cam
palgn Mr.. De Young was a candidate
for Senator; that he expected the party
TO confer upon him that honor in re-
ward for his services He contended
that d. M. Burns promised him dur
ing the campaign that whatever inf1u-
ence he could control would be welded
on behalf of his candidacy; that the
failure of Burns is a distinct repudia-
ton Of Burns obligations to do so.
Burns denies that he promised any
support to De Young, at the same time
declaring that he himself is not a can
didate for United States Senator. Mr..
Spreckels' candidate for the Office is
Hon. Z. f. Preston.
The sum of the matter appears to be
that both Mr.. De Young and Mr..
Spreckels were anxious for the assist
anee of the Southern Pacific Company,
and it is beyond dispute that the South
ern Pacific Company refused to inter
fere or take a hand in the Senatorial
contest, and has distinctly refused to
join Mr.. De Young and Mr.. Spreckels
in controlling, or directing, or influence
ing the choice of the Legislature. In
the meantime Colonel Burns is en-
phatic in his declaration that he has
never at any time been a candidate for
United States Senator.
Chief Counsel Herrin is emphatic in
his declaration that he never at any
time obligated himself to recognize
either the candidate of Mr.. Spreckels
or Mr.. De Young himself The direc-
tors of the Southern Pacific Company
have announced their determination to
be against any interference in the SEN
atorial squabble. Mr. De Young's pref
erence for Senator has not been de-
clared
The sum of the matter appears TO be
a species of misunderstanding between
three principal parties to the contro-
yersy. In itself it possess little or no
political significance, and is an inter
esting news matter chiefly because of
the prominence of the principal actors
MR.. HERRIN'S STATEMENT.
Following is Mr. Herrin's statement,
which appeared in the Post" and
Bulletin" this evening:
The statement in the Chronicle that
/ caused to be published my version of
a conversation between John D. Spreck-
els, M. H. De Young and myself, is not
true. / gave no statement of this inter-
view to any one for publication, and
had nothing to do with it's publication;
but as Mr.. De Young and Mr.. Spreckels
have given their version of this inter
view, am at liberty to state the facts.
''The interviews of Mr.. De Young and
Mr.. Spreckels published in the Call
remind me of the play without the
character Of Hamlet who in this case
is Mr.. De Young, as candidate for the
United States Senate. This interview /
had with Mr.. De Young, mentioned by
him, was the last of several interviews
between us, in which the chief, if not
the only, topic of discussion was his
candidacy for the United States Senate
He insisted that the railroad company
should support him for Senator; that he
was the logical candidate; that a Re-
because of the belief on the part of
many voters that he was to be the
Senator; that the business men of the
town were all for him; that Mr.. Spreck-
els of the Calf would support him, etc.
Il was surprised at Mr.. De Young's
statement that Mr.. Spreckels was
friendly to him, as I had heard that
Spreckels would oppose him, and hence
my interview with Mr. Spreckels, which
is mentioned, in which we discussed the
Senatorial candidates, with the result
that Mr.. Spreckels declared himself ut
terly opposed to Mr.. De Young. saying
that De Young was not fit man for
the Senate, and that if he were a candi-
date he would fight him to the end. In
this interview urged upon Mr.. Spreck-
els the claims of Mr.. De Young-his
services to the party-that if he were
Senator his energy and push would Sc
cure to California all the favors to
which she was entitled at the hands
of the general government, ETC., but
Mr.. Spreckels was infiexible in his op-
position
After this interview, I had my final
interview with Mr.. De Young, in which
told him that he was mistaken in
that Mr.. Spreckels would
support him; that Mr.. Spreckels had
told me that he would not do So also
said to Mr.. De Young that the owners
Of the Southern Pacific Company would
not consent that its influence should be
used in his support for United States
Senator; that I had urged upon them
his claims to their support, and had
used my best efforts in that behalf, but
that there was no question as to their
decision.
In previous interviews Mr.. De
Young had declared that if he were not
supported by the Southern Pacific
Company he would become it's implac-
able foe, and that he would devote the
rest of his life to a fight against the
company and its interests: that it
would earn his undying hostility-and
more to this effect. was, of course,
desirous of getting Mr.. De Young in a
different frame of mind, and I sug-
gested to him in our last interview
that if he could not be Senator he
should turn his efforts to the election
of Senator who would be satisfactory
to him and who would cooperate with
him in political matters. But Mr. de
Young refused to consider any candi-
date for the Senate except himself,
saying that he would name no other
person
Thus our interview terminated, and
L heard nothing more from Mr. De
Young until / met him last Saturday
afternoon in Mr.. Spreckels' private of
nee In the Cali building. I received a
telephone from Mr.. Leake saying that
Mr.. Spreckels would like to see me for
a few moments on an important mat
ter. went over to the Cali office and