The San Francisco call., 1898-10-08
Blatantly Describes How He Main= tains His Position as Boss
 in Matters Political.
Desperate Efforts Made to take the Sting of Slander From the Charges lie Made Against
 EX=COuncilman Jarman

! favorable report on the purchase of the roller, and that he (Jarman), of course, ] had supported the roller That is, he ad- Vocated II, Snd that l thought an eXplana- ton from hIm was due as 10 what became ! of this money and where IL went.
 any of It."
 I said, T don't know anything Of the kind"
 ! He said. Do you know MT. Fay and ] Noltttng got some Of it and MT. McKen- 1 said. T don't know anything of the
 He said. You know I didn't" .t Sala, II you want 10 know what ] 1 tnInKt not what know, l will tell you. " te sa1d, ell, what do you think?' :. Anq | said, T think you got $450 of It.: During all Of this conversation, how and was using numerous ephithets 10 me and as l thought, was trying"
 By Mir. Delmas-Never mind what you
 By the court-Just the conversation, MT Real thought I would like to hit him IleTe, YOU see he Tiled me up to It. What l meant to say was, that we had both be- come very much interested in the dis cCsslon. lie was very much excited and douSINe ana said great many things EXerythlng he could fay his tongue to.
 He sad was in with a band or thieves Wno were IOoters Of the public treasury that was disgrace to the city, my fam ny ana myself and everything else He said everything and when I fold him [ [baoQgnt m Gdit, ne had got $50 why he said that ne would thrash me. I said MT Jar man, man, you are cripple and you can't whip
 He said, Then I will shoot you"
 l said, Don't get excited, you are
 Then he said that I was coward and he would challenge me to a duel said. Well. go and get a couple of pLStols or pistol and take couple Of snotsi, then hand them over to me if you mss Al that time some one came along /, Attorney Morehouse-Now,a at that time. MT Rea, did you use these words: There steam roller to some of the Councilnen [ and you got s400 of 1t"
 Rea-No, sir, I did not
 Now, at the time you told MT. Jarnan that you thought he got $450 of it how aid So4 S4 mean that he received S450?"
 inn Jqs{ {t& gave him my thought-.nly. oPin-- simply said thought he did"
 Did you in this conversation with Alr JaTTn9n tell the source a your belief?" so,,Haa What did you say to him was the
 The gentleman who sold the roller to
 What did you tell him. in that conver- sait5ion, sei5 the gentleman who sold the roller
 That he had exhausted the commission, Wnlch was Si0O, in securing favorable re- port upon the purchase of the roller"
 Was that all you told him?'' That he had informed me where a mart or the money went and that he also in formed me where part of It did not 20. p Did you tell him, in this conversation, where he told you part of the money had gone?
 Yes, sir"
 What did you say to him?"
 T said that he told me that his com bine. then remaining in the Council had received S300.''
 Whose combine?'
 MT. Jarman' s"
 cr{x- ha oF sons to Mir. Jarman?'
 T did
 T told him 1t went through MT Kreig He is the one the gentleman told me 1t went through, and Mir. Dittus. MT. Dittus had nothing to do with 1t directly, as understood it. He was in the combine said: MT. Jarman, he told me your com bine, through MT. Kreig, had received
 ''Did you tell him anything else at that time that this man had told you.
 'I told him that he had offered me the roller for S300o-for s275O, as matter Of fact"
 who were in the Common Council at the time of this conversation with Mr.
 1Maggard was the agent for the steam roller manufacturers.)
 Fay and Nolting and Dittus and Kreig with MT. Maggard.'
 state what the whole conversation with MT. JarTnan was"
  accusations. He said we were all band of thieves: that Fay and Noting got money On that propositions hundred doI- lars apieCe-and that 1 wanted steam roller myself. And l said: For argument ! sake, will admit 1t; but explain why 1 stiH deeper in debt when its treasury was | already depleted, to buy steam roller | to roll my rock with?
 1 Now, in this conversation he referred | to something that you were supposed to | have said to Mir. Montgomery and Mr. McDonald?"
 1 Yes sir.
 | had, where you had 1t and under what circumstances you had it with MT. Mont ! gomery and MT. McDonald?" "I was a director of the Hotel Vendome | and met with these directors on nearly every meeting night. They were all my personal friends and some of them my pohtleal 1rlenos- We had finished the business of the meetings and were dis cussing different topics. The discussion was about the new charter ticket and the opposition ticket or the opposition to it. Mir Montgomery, Why are you fighting MT Jarrnan2 We were alweys friends in business and otherwise and you and he were great friends, and you were with him When he ran for the Council and why are you against him" And 1 said that I thought he was crooked. that I lost faith Tn him and his sincerity; that he was posing for an element in the com munity which was setting itself up as the embodiment or all that was pure and accusing those in opposition to them with everything that was vile and corrupt; that while there were worse men than MT. Jarnnan. I had nothing against him personally, yet I did not think he was entitled to occupy the position that he was trying to occupy in politics and the puhIic. to my mind; that the new charter itself had provided for any contracts that were let for over S100 and that MT. Jar man had with Mir. Dittus and Kreig nainted certain engIne-houses in town and his bill was cut in pieces so as to come within the $100 limit I did not think that that was fin harmony with my ideas of a Councilman that was repre- sented as he was. I stated that originally MT Jarnan and myself were friends; that the committees of the different or ganizations that I had spoken of had con- ferred with me and that had agreed to fofn with them with my influence and support upon the following policy: That the liberal element of the community there had been a fight between the church and the whisky element, as 1t is commonly known-that I was in with the church people and the A. F. A. 8 upon the following policy; that had organized or helped to organize at that time these ele- meTts upon what 1 conceived to be the right principles which would remedy in my mind what suggested itself to me as