Evening star., 1898-08-17
A TALK WITH CARRANzA.
The Spanish Spy's Criticisms OF
Americas Fight Against Spain.

MONTREAL, Que, August 1T.-Lleuten-
ant Carranza, who sailed in the steamship
Scotsman for Liverpool on Saturday, gave
the Associated Press correspondent an IN
terview on the way down the river He
said that he had never disregarded Sir
Wilfrid Laurier's invitation to leave Can
ada, for the simple reason that he had
never received 1t, and in this connection
again declared that certain paragraphs in
the letter taken from his room were manu-
factured in Washington in order to get him
expelled from Canada.
During his absence from Montreal, he
said, he had been travelling about Canada
enjoying himself, and he had twice been in
the United States. On his second trip, he
said, he felt disposed to go to Washington
and call on Chief Wilkie, who had inti-
mated to his friends in Montreal that he
was willing to pay a good price to learn
where he was.
Concerning the conditions of peace, he
declared that it would be impossible to find
in history, except in bararous times, harder
conditions.
His DenunciatiOn.
"It is spolation only to be compared with
the dismemberment of Poland. The Amer
leans, who went into this war with the pro-
testing cry of humanity on their lips, now
by reason of their strength, take all they
want; and the rest of Europe, to their
shame be it said, quietly allow it,
General Shafter, he declares, would never
have captured Santiago but for the assist
ance of the Cuban insurgents, who have
rendered him invaluable service by stop
ping Santiago's supplies. The Americans
had yet to find. he remarked, what a good
for-nothing fellow the Cuban insurgent
was.
ya1 hi vic a1,nI t1,n al
and military operations of the war, Lieu
tenant Carranza said he could only say
they had been conducted by mere chance.
AS for the military operations, the Span
iards were always outnumbered, he said
I'VE have not seen any great gene-alship
or splendid exploits OF bravery the Amer
leans boast much about, but only the
natural valor displayed by all soldiers.
LAS regards the navy he continued,
'the only notable thing has been the sink
ing of the Merrimac. This was beautiful
and glorious exploit, and the United States
may well be proud of Lieut.. Hobson and
his brave men.
The Manila Battle.
"As regards the battle of Santiago, can
only say that two American battle ships
We're more than match for the four Span
ish cruisers The battle of Manila has
nothing very particular about it in the way
OF daring. 1t is very easy to go inside the
entrance. Commodore Dewey knew perfect
Iy well there were no torpedoes or good
guns at Corrigedor (at the entrance to the
bay, nor yet in Cavite), and there are no
shoals in the hal Dor which might endanger
any of his ships. He knew the little value
of the ships under Admiral Montijo, and
placed his Squadron at long distance ana
began to fight.
.sAs regards the bravery of American
sailors, they are equal to the sailors of any
other navy in the world but in this war
it has not really beenqput to the test, as
they have had weaker ships and guns to
contend with. ii 81
LAS to the challenges to Capt. Sigsbee
and Consul Lee, I do not know whether
they will answer h6wS6r not-the war is
over-but should theyitso to France they
can call on me if they like this will be sat
isfactOrY to me-"