The herald., 1898-06-30
TERMINALS FRANCHISE
STILL HANGS IN THE BALANCE.
u. A LIVELY DEBATE
THE ELOQUENT PRoTEsTANTs
Of All Sorts and Sizes Address the
Council-Gibbon Fighting Yet.
No Decision Reached

PASADENA, June 29-(Office of The
Herald IS East Colorado Street) At the
meeting of the city council this afternoon
the lobby and entrance ways were crowded.
All the members of the council were pres
ent. The session was adjourned from Mon
day, and the reason for the great interest
was that it had been announced protestants
would be heard against the granting of a
franchise to the Terminal company on Eu-
cid avenue. ~,
Vice President Gibbon of the Terminal
began 1.-The argument by reminding the
board that all conditions had been complied
With by his company, and that the COM
pany had waited a long time for its fran
chise. -
DIR. W. H. Roberts entered a protest in
behalf of the residents on Euclid avenue,
many. of whom were present in the lobby.
Some of the objections are that a track
there would be noisy, dirty and dangerous
to the lives of children. He brought out
the point that If the new road is admitted
/, then the present road would no longer pay
over its bonus of $1,000 per month for street
lighting, and the property owners would
have to stand one-seventh more tax for
street lighting.
Mrs. Morse stated that had her husband
known that an electric road might some day
be running on Euclid avenue he never would
have bought property on that street
Thomas Croft compared the Terminal to
c.. p Huntington's road, and said the poll
cies of the two roads were alike. He would
take $1,000 less for his property on Euclid
avenue If the road goes through. He is In
favor of keeping the road off the center OF
town and off Euclid avenue.
Harry c. Allen opposed the project on
general principles and not because Of any
personal interests.
A. r. Metcalfe, attorney for the present
line, stated that the Terminal does not pro-
pose to cover a district which the present
electric road oniits. There would be no re-
duction of fare, inasmuch as the proposed
franchise provides simply that the fare to
Los Angeles shall not exceed Is cents. He
declared that he was sure the road would
not run double track, because 1t has not
, kept It's promises in the past When the
! Terminal asks for a franchise to Sierra
Madre he was willing to hep them get it
There is no room for two lines. The pres
emit line IL a Pasadena institution. Eighty
six of the ninety odd of its employees reside
here. All supplies as far as possible are
purchased for the road in this city. Should
a new road enter passenger from Los An
geles on one road might have to pay extra
fare to get to his homd on line of the
other road. At present he pays only one
fare for the entire distance.
Robert Strong stated that Euclid avenue
would be spoiled as a drive If the road was
built on 1t. Nearly all the travel has gone
from Los Robes avenue to Euclid avenue
since the present line was built ON Los
Robes. He was not in favor Of giving over
the $4,000 annual lighting bonus for the ex.
pectations Of the Terminal We practical
~ control the present road. We can let ir
another road If the present road forfeits its
right to be trusted. At present another road
Is not needed.
Mr.. Gibbon regarded Mr.. Strong's pro.
posed policy of holding the Terminal as ar
Institution to be fallen back on in case Of
need as not CHRISTIAN charity. He asked
Mr. Strong If he was not interested in 6
bank whose interests were allied with The
Los Angeles and Pasadena road. Mr.. Strong
replied that he was, having just $50 to his
credit in this bank. Mr.. Gibbon expressed
his coincidence.
Judge j. G. Rossiter expressed his appro
baton of the manner in which the present
road is managed by the municipality. Com
petition Is good, but 1t is not needed in al
cases. 1t is not needed against an institu
ton which Is giving fair treatment. There
are two sides to all questions, a legal and g
oral side. The present road has kept IT.
horal and legal obligations. Give them {
further test. Let committee, If this car
he done, wait on the officials of the road and
demand reduction Of fares rather thar
ruin a corporation by admitting too much
competition. Railways are for people who
I'VE along their routes. They should decide
Ave- the present road a further test by
fitting 1t have Its business and put in thu
<tra facilities which 1t is preparing to pul
fudge Weed arose to make plea for the
latest good for the greatest number. II
not fair to shut out competition. Judge
ed reviewed the promises which the
pinal makes, and declared that in his
d>1yith his experience and OBJ
>ckedness he was not pre-
the Terminal people liars
o believe that they meant
Rvor Of Greater Pasadena
chises now pending be
Antrolled its city gov.
ved thatS within twelve
IN competing vSHd hadrbeer
d the fare to Los Angeles would b
loser by It because of the great in.