The San Francisco call., 1898-03-12
ASKED 4 LOAN FROM BROKER
 SOL KAMPE The Grand Juror Tells About the Ken
 nedy Affair. Says the Teachers Wife Stated That Positions Could Be Bought. Wanted to Borrow $500 to Get Her Husband Into the
 Department. STANTON KEEPS SHADY. Runners That Fitzpatrick Is Keeping Him Out of Sight Until the
 Trial Comes Up.
STANTON KEEPS SHADY.
Run1ors That Fitzpatrick Is Keeping Him Out of Sight Until the
 Trial Comes Up.

hCi . i9 oliC SIdLu dt icdSI WuO believes that teachers positions have been purchased from members of the Board of Education right along, and he does not hesitate to express his be- lief. This juror is S. Kampe, the money broker, whose dealings with public off, cials and employees of every class for years has given him as close an insight into the secret workings of the munich pality as any man in town.
 Mr. Kampe told in detail yesterday his knowledge of the circumstances at tending Kennedys appointment to a position in the department, and while denying that he had loaned the teacher the money to purchase his position, or that he knew definitely that the posi- tion was purchased, he regarded the affair as suspicious.
 For some months before Kennedy came to San Francisco" said MT Kampe, "his wife kept a dressmaking establishment on Van Ness avenue, short distance from where my brother and his wife lived. My sister-in-law had some work done there and in that way became quite friendly with Mrs. Kennedy. Kennedy was teaching school somewhere in the country and Mrs. Kennedy was anxious to have him get lAlo thC dCpdl lIIicIil
 One day my sister-in-laW came to me and said that Mrs. Kennedy had told her that her husband could get a position for $500. l told my sister-in- law to advise Mrs. Kennedy not to put up a cent for 1t was probably bunko game and she would lose the money and not get the position. AS for me, l refused point blank to loan her the money for any such purpose. and did not see Mrs Kennedy about the mat ter at all.
 Shortly after that, I learned that Kennedy was in the city and had been appointed substitute teacher in the evening schools. In little while-two or three weeks I should say-Kennedy was given a regular position on full salary. Of course this may have been all regular enough, but taking into con sideration what my sister-in-law said. it would appear to be different.
 That Is just where the trouble is in getting sufficient facts before the Grand Jury to warrant an indictment. We can get plenty of hearsay evidence, such as my knowledge of the Kennedy affair, but when 1t comes to getting def mite information, such as would hold in a court of justice, it is a different matter.
 Now, In regard to Kilpatrick's charge that I loaned Kennedy the mon Sy nave lOdHSu lIlOIiSy dl various times since October, 1896. One day he came into my office, and we got to talking about the charges that teachers positions were for sale. I told him about the Kennedy affair ex- actly as l have told you. When I had finished Fitzpatrick exclaimed: I wouldn't take 5000 for that informa- tion!'
 Well. you got it for nothing I re- piled, and soon after Fitzpatrick went out. A few days afterward he returned with President Harrington, of the School Board, and asked me to repeat what l had told him about Kennedy. l did so. and when MT. Harrington had heard 1t, he remarked that 1t was mere ly hearsay, and would not be accepted as testimony. l agreed with him, and as- sured him that if I knew anything defi- mite about any crooked work going on, l would gladly aid in exposing it. It Is on this that Fitzpatrick bases his asser- tion that l loaned Kennedy $500 to put up for his position
 MT. Kennedy was seen at the Lincoln School last evening, and questioned about Kampe's statement
 There is no truth in It," said MT. Kennedy. T did not pay a cent for my appointment, nor did my wife Neither did we offer to pay or were asked to pay any sum whatever My Wl1e never made any such statement to Kampe's sister-in-law, and MT. Kampe must have misunderstood her."
 Kennedy admitted that he was sp- pointed to the substitute list several weeks before his arrival in this city
 My acquaintance with Dr. Ragan dates back to the time when I was County Superintendent of Schools in evada County. He was then Is years old, and appeared before the board of examiners, of which I was a member for teachers certificate After that l saw him frequently, for I was at Grass Valley, while he was at Nevada City. only four miles away. It was owing to our long acquaintance that he assisted me to this position, and nothing more''
 Stanton, whose affidavits have won for him so much notoriety has not been seen since Tuesd-y, and it is the general impression that he is not in town. It has been intimated that Kill patrick had him hidden away until such time as he wanted to put him forward to substantiate the statements contained in his last affidavit: but Kill patrick denied last night that he knew where Stanton was, and expressed the belief that he had left town.
 Fitzpatrick said he was exceedingly anxious to learn of Stantons where abCuts, as his evidence was essential to his cause.