New-York tribune., 1898-11-10
A SPLIT AMONG DEMOCRATS
TALK OF NEW ORGANIZATION TO
FIGHT MR. CROKER.

THE OTHER RESPONSIBLE FOX NV"
DEFEAT OF TIE TICKET.
There were many prominent Democrats y'S,eFuSY
-, ,,,,.oa ,ba, the result Of Tuesdays election
would be tho formation OF new Democra"c VI
ranization within the greater city. th' oo1''' "
which would be the deposition OF itl'hii"
as "A leader and the placing OF IN" o'ei'''~'
under the direction OF able CONSCIENTIOUS anu
coura ccous man. who will have the strength ana
foarlessness TO oppose Mr.. Croker and contest WIKI
him the leadership within the city. lh''e ar
thousands and thousands OF Democrats VINO s'd'"
ready to join such an organization' ana II Is sd'u
that 1t will he only matter OF tiinc uh,l II WIZ
h. formed along the lines q the old County
Democracy.
Rofore this can he done however. II Is apparent
that the fight between Croker and fill' whlch up
10 the present has been a contest benea'h 'he
surface and q concealed feud 10 WaJo''S VI
voters but perfectly apparent to all Keen pom
ticans will become fierce and open Mr. 'roAei
hlames Mr. Hill for the defeat OF the Democratic
c.. .. ,io,o, In conversation with friends previous
~ tho election Croker said that Hh was Kn'rlhe
the ticket up the State. When the returns oa'e -
election night and the city stood up wen io' ' ,'
Democratic ticket Croker felt proud OF his handi-
work: but any 10Y he may have had over 'ha' "aS
.clipsed by the keen and vindlcuNe 'es'"'"'e"'
oco,nst rul when the returns from above the
Harlem came in. He the majority there s"ei'
and multiply until it swamped the DIG p'uIa"S III
the city Croker thinks that fill was ueacne'o"S
n the ticket and that had he tried he could have
held the Republican vote down to point "here
tho citv's plurality would have wiped II out. lie
said wrathfully 10 his friends that mn had given
the ticket no support. and that. moreover '''
reonlo up the State had taken Tammarys $ money
and used II against the ticket
AS HILL LOOKS AT IT.
11r,s c-v ON the other hand. IS that too much
Croker killed the ticket He has tolh MS ''len'r
that in the first place. the forc'o no'''''"' 'o', -
"a, Wvck was folly as T. gave the slogan OF Y an
u-vck Van Wvck & Co" In the next place the
attsck On the judiciary he condemned as brutal
a,d rncalod for: and lately he had tolc MS Hl'h'7
that the best thing that could happen 10 ','e par"
and the State would be the defeat OF the 'icNel' d.
It would insure an end to roK'risiS, To Demcrracy
'ia enmitv between these two leaders snotheftn
So tickrt now promises TO break out INTO open
warfare Yesterday number OF caIigrs II a' ood
Significantly at CrOker's picture ms thry npohs ~
the defeat the ticket had met ih9nas T.. re ie's'ao t
ouartors throughout the campaign. spoke ieeunsy
Of the defeat Of Van WyGk ana souhuH" he ene eed
for an explanation Of the defeat Of the ticket he
Look over the files OF the newspapers The
Democratic plurality in this city is not what IL
should have been. and the big falhng on Is response
WhSn iT' '' askcd What caused the. falling Of Mr.
and e.,id The judiciary question for thing.
II Mr. Croker had nominated the Judges and then
kept quiet it would not have been so bad iie Kept
rifht on talking however. and am not the only
one that complains Of his course. There are many
Within few days II Is expected that Inn men
all over the State will be making the same cry
A. Democratic headquarters Senator McCarren
was hand Yesterday. looking even more gloom @
than ever. He was not at all taIkatlNe' re con
ceded the election of Roosevelt by l3Co II don't
to explain our deeat he Td SAD ;ba Ss tht
story. Tn. city did all right. but we were showed
under 10y the up the State. Post-mortems
won't help"
MIR CROKER'S IDLE DREAMS
It was far into yesterday morning when Richard
Croker went TO bed Before retiring he refused to
give up. saying that later returns might make
difference or the soldier vote might prove startling
and overcome the Democratic loss He was up
carly. and eagerly read everything that tended 10
throw any light upon the subject About II O'Clock
he started for Tammany Hall and by that time he
ing Tammany Hall. he conceded the election, but
81 am sntrey sashe@ M Tin The thu vote IN ias
here did their fun duty. and = It had not been for
the slump up the state Van Wyck would have been
puraiy gG whe" " h. 5o T@@ched Thee t2g Harlem Would he
about 5000 and that would have given our tskei
was no overcoming the plurality Of 5000 which
Roosevelt got aboy" Tho Harlem Comparativ"N
togcther in 1se7 We wouIJ baTe on carricd Nv
York County hy 300 whereas now carry il by
60oOo against the combined opposition
As for our judiciary ticket. It made splendid
candidates for Justices OF the Supreme Court oacu
/ received about tho same vote. I n"vcr saw three
candidates run 50 evenly. Tho howl about
honest judiciary. Therefore. had result. and
shows that the people understand ius. what tho
hOv ! meant. Another thing IS that tho Rcpuhlirans
/ tried TO make sound money IN issue vet elected
all our Congress canulpdfcs and gained two Con-
grcssmcn in Brooklyn. That is an tho sound money
issue amounted 10 I'm this city
The fact + that Roosevelt's military record
pulled him through II seems that any man with a
, Chanlcr beat Quigg His record in cuba hepci 10
wipe out QulSgs big majority
TROt BILE ~ THE RANKS
Trouble within tho Tammany organization as
result Of tho election. docs not seem 20 be FAR of
Mr. Croker It Is said. will turn down" a number
OF district leaders Among those said to he doe-
of the Id: Martin Enge of tho With and "Rar
ncy' Martin. Of the Nth districts II is said hv
persons who assert that they have inside fact,
that Mr.. Croker il disploasc1 with tho leaders
named because they deceived him in their esti
mates Of the votes Tho Tammany campaign re-
quirod close figuring. Mr. Diver. ii IS said dis
pleased Nj Croker by sending him word on Flec-
on Day that he going TO run behind because
the Hebrews I'm his district were cutting him II
i said Mr.. Croker wantec to know why Diver
had not discovered and reported IL earlier
The Tammany leaders hav" other troubies T<d
by their advice. their followers bet large sums
Of money on Van WICK and now they want 10
know what the leaders meant by ringing" them
At the Democratic tluh last night there was A
municaiive Mr.. Croker would no. add anvthinG to
what he had already said. bur he admitted that the
ticket was hopelossly defeated.