The herald. [microfilm reel] (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1893-1900, 1898-08-28

to me: You take half a million of dollars
and go away! Whose half million is it?'
I asked. What do you carer said Mr..
Tweed. I said to him: L will stay with my
friends and fight you Queerly enough.
Oakley Hall, the mayor then under Tweed,
wants to write my life; he is poor and lives
by his pen. He could verify all the dates
from his personal knowledge of the events"
what was Halls degree of guilt?"
"They deluded him with the idea of maxi
ing him governor Of New York the same
as Edward Pierrepont fooled Judge Bar
nard to enjoin the ring and the governor.
I went to Hall and said: You get out or
this wicked house will fall on you He
wouldn't believe they had stolen millions.
When A T. Stewart, Astor and Marshall
O. Roberts examined the books and. said
everybody had been honest, Hail remarked
to me: There. I can't go back on that!
Said 1: 4 am sorry for you, because you
will be under the wreck"
did not women help break all those men
up?"
Nearly all. Tweed's sons had nothing
left. and I think they are all dead. Hall is
poor a reporter. A few Of their depend
ents lived domestic lives and kept some of
the plumber. The thief always gets the lar
| cenious woman for his punisher.'
publication was necessary to effectuate
these figures?'
1T was more than year getting the fig
| ures published. The character Of the times
was crooked and the newspapers had tbeir
! friends in combinations the ring controlled
l. had people employed in the comptroller's
| office TO take off the figures. Greeley was
codded by the ring and afterward was
their candidate for president. Mr.. Dana
wouldn't publish the accounts as / demand
| ed, though l told him it would mako his
paper. Jim Taylor owned stock in The
Times and not till he died could get the
Times, for Taylor was in the ring. AT one
| time I got an introduction through Mat
Carpenter to Roscoe Conkling, and from
him to President Grant and Pierpont,
| Grants district attorney, helped materi-
ally when the time came. Finally Mr..
Jones of the Times fetched his editor, Jen-
nings, as narrow-minded fellow as ever
| lived, to me. Jennings asked me what l
was a Catholic for; told him none of his
business. To my mind people are best In
the church they are brought UP in; change
ables are not to be relied upon. George
Jones treated me honestly and I made his
paper; his son never showed any gratitude.
! Greeley assailed me, and when he ran for
| president sent John Cochrane to tell me
that he would take everything back If
would support him. / replied that was
committed to Gen. Grant. as the Tweed
ring was for Greeley. I drove every one
of them fellows to Canada, or Europe. or
the JAIL
"What is the state of New York city po-
litically today?'
1.-THE government of Croker Is equally
corrupt and stupid. Croker is a nurnbskull
and Van Wyck, his mayor, is tried and
proven nobody, without Independence, or
| information, or the respect of his equals,
a mere bully for Croker, whom he ought to
despisc. This Croker, and Scanwell and
| Martin, and few others of such varlets,
got together in tough house next door to
the Brunswick and upset the dying Kelly
| and assumed his powers. John Kelly
wanted me to take charge of Tammany
hall when he was disabled. Kelly was a
| capable boss till somebody fought him
well, anG then he ran. Croker is a creation
of the New York newspapers. Dave Hill
would be a power if he were not so cold.
Croker is the worst attempt to hamstring
o great city we have ever had, and Mayor
Strong, instigated by DR.. Parkhurst, is the
cause of Croker's success. ! helped elect
Strong and told him in three months, You
| have thrown away a noble chance by OPP
posinns g--u.0.1T' Ouu a. pvPfan. INV
,soA<
The small and narrow use you are making
of it will be the injury of your friends. Nc
good you can do will be an apology for In
flicting Croker on Greater New York
told Mayor Strong not to quarrel with
sent 1t to them. The man who thinks
the milk sour by their little thunders, and
to sour Plat they went under the yoke OF
Croker themselves, servants of a low serv-
ant"
SHERIFF, they say you used to give away
mill stocks of barrels of flour to the poor?''
II gave away then no more than give
now I was a smith in the Empire Stone
works, my bosses Irish Presbyterians. but
they said to their sons Always vote for
James O'Brien, and I got the support OF
my employers and keep tho support OF
!
and stand by me. So took tho view that
owed my chances to help myself in other
enterprises to the people who had lifted
me to better things, and that part of my
increment was theirs. l knew where the
poor lived or hid or had no bread, and
sent it to them. The mon who thinks
THAI was wrong never gave anybody his
bread, and his advice is as dry as his char
ity. I gave bread and have never been
without it,
"They say you played a mighty game Of
poker or something with Ben Wood?"
IT never drank liquor and never smoked a
cigar, and some play must be left to the
animal nature. So 1 have been fond of a
stroke of hazard. Ben Wood is fine
gamester. He can outplay mo at cards,
except poker, perhaps, which is the only
game 1 am good at because do not fear.
Wood Is very old man now and depends
Chiefly on his newspaper. He once offered
John Morrissey $4,000 to be allowed to
make two bets above the faro banks lin
it's. He bet twice, 100000 each time, and
won $4,000 and broke the bank. Morris
sey took the faro box in fury and fired 1t
into the plaster of the wall, where it stuck