The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-06-14


paid single dollar, except possibly a
small amount for expenses.
Mr.. Lindsay Ry.) related the details
or conversation, which he had had
with Maj. Stahlman, who had told him
that no fees were to be paid out of the
appropriation, except possibly $1,000 or
S2,oo0 as necessary expenses. Mr.. Hoar
(Mass) believed this was an oppertune
time to say to the country that in the
presentation of just claims to congress
there was never necessity for the en-
ployment of agents or lobbyists. Con-
cerning the present matter Mr.. Hoar
said:
The representatives Of the church
ought at once to pay back to the gov.
ernment the money received under the
appropriation, and the man who receiv-
ed the 100000, If he ever expects to
nave shred Of character to his back,
ought to give up the money!"
Mr.. Chandler desired it to be. ,under-
stood that the present matter could not
be settled by the disclaimer of false
intent by those who pushed the claim
through the senate. He. maintained
that the money ought to be returned
SOAAe3A
fuse to relinquish his gains the church
ought to proceed against him to recover
the money.
MR.. PASCO ARRAIGNED.
Mr.. Chandler declared that the senate
had been grossly and outrageously de-
ceived, and that the senator from FIori-
da (Mr. .Pasco) had been the agent un-
Willingly of the deception.
Mr.. Pasco-The senator knows 1 am
incapable of deceiving the senate.
Mr.. Chandler-The senate was deceiv-
ed and the senator from Florida was
the agent Of the deception, unwittingly
and unwilingly, have no doubt.
Mr. Bacon felt that Mr.. Chandler
was doing an injustice to Mr.. Pasco,
who had been deceived himself
Mr.. Chandler replied that he had
disclaimed any unkind or any unjust
imputation upon Mr.. Pasco 1--WE all
were deceived" said he, "and Barbee
and Smith did it,
II ask the senator from New Hamp-
shire to retract absolutely those words
which indicated that I was an agent
of the deception practiced upon the
| senate. cannot remain patiently un-
| der such an imputation," declared Mr..
Pasco.
II do not know what the senator can
do,' retorted Mr.. Chandler eff he
can do or say anything about it, I
wish he would do so, in order that I
| may proceed with my speech. have
stated he did not willingly or Willingly
deceive the senate, and that ought to be
enough
Il want the senator's words to en-
body the absolute facts" said Mr.. Pas
co, hotly.
| well, Decline replied Mr.. Chand-
Ter, ito permit the senator to put words
into my mouth
II desire to say then,' said Mr.. Pas
CO, that any statement that I was an
agent in the deception of the senate in
this matter is without foundation. and
the senator from New Hampshire
| knows it,
REFUSED TO RETRACT.
j well, Mr.. President" declared Mr..
Chandler, "the truth is the exact op-
| posite of that statement
Mr.. Tillman Dem, S. c. did not
believe that the money ought to be re-
turned to the government as the claim
was primarily a just one, "but I want
to say, Mr.. President, ''that the Meth
| odist church ought to make Stahlman
| disgorge."
The resolution was further discussed
by Mr.. Teller (Col), Mr.. Morgan (Ala.) },
Mr. Perry (Ark.) and Mr.. Wilson
| Wash.). It finally went over until
! tomorrow.
Mr.. Foraker (O) then called up the
bill for the Incorporation of an inter-
national American bank. He stated
| the bill was one Of the recommends
tions Of the Pan-American congress.
The assemblage had recommended
| legislation for the chartering of this
| institution.
| The bill was discussed at some length,
| but was not disposed Of
Mr.. Frye (Me) favorably reported
| from the committee on commerce a bill
to provide American registry for the
steamers Unionist and Specialist. The
bill was passed.
On motion Of Mr.. Mills the senate
] then, at 4:40 p. M, went into execu-
tive session, after which it adjourned.