The times., 1898-11-16
Queen BEFORE PRESIDENT
Victoria S Health Drunk Ahead
of That Of the President.
ANGLO-AMERIGAN UNION
Lord HcrscheIi. ut the New York
Makes Significant References-At-
tOrney General Griggs Says the
Question OF Expansion Is Settled.

New York. Nov l5-"In Time of Peace
Remember the War" ought well have
been the motto Of the Chamber of Com
merce's one hundred and thirtieth annual
banquet, held at Delmonicos tonight
From the beginning TO end the banquet
was a celebration of the glory won ny
American soldiers and sailors. except in
one notable respect and that was an
offshoot of the war. in a sense.
The exception was the expression of
sentiments for Anglo-American union.
emphasized by the presence of Lord
Herschell, president of the joint commits
sion, as guest of honor. and still further
emphasized by the reversal of the order
of toasts on the program. Queen Tlcto-
ria's health being drunk before that of
the President of the United States 1t is
significant of the change of public senti-
ment that when little more than a
year ago an avowedly Anglo-American
organization of this city put the queens
toast before the Presidents the dinner
almost broke up in a row. Tonight, in a
distinctively American gathering, there
was not a murmur. On the contrary the
assemblage rose to its feet and sang full
heartedly. God Save the Queen"
About 800 men sat down to the banquet
In the seat of honor, at the left of the
presiding officer. President A E Orr. of
the Chamber of Commerce sat Lord Her
schell. and on the other side Attorney
General Griggs.
Others at the guests table were: For
mer Gov. Levi P. Morton, Seth Low,
British consul general at this port
In his speech, Lord HerscheIl aroused
great applause by saying:
There is a bond which unites Great
Britain and the United States such as
that which unites no other nations Now.
undoubtedly, we have at times said nasty
things of one another; bit then, that is
no proof that we are nos near relations.
| uaughterD We have sometimes seemed
to be very near serious-what shall
| say?-in attacks upon one another But,
again, that Is no proof that close rela-
tionship does not exist between us. Nav
1t not be possible that at some future
time, when we are either of us menaced
by the intervention of some third party
which seriously threatens our existence
or our prosperity. that we may find
that, whatever the differences that arise
among ourselves from time to time we
shall be ready to unite in defense of each
other against a stranger"
Attorney General John W. Griggs who
responded TO the toast, Confidence Re-
gained" said:
Il have no great secrets of state to dis
close to YOU / haYe no discussions of
great questions of policy TO make l shall
not even discuss the question of expan-
sion. | consider 1t settled. (Applause }
1t was settled when the Congress of the
United States annexed the Sandwich ISL
ands. An additional settlement was made
when Spain ceded to us Porto Rico. An
additional bond of settlement was taken
when we took an island in the Ladrones
Whether We get any other islands or har-
bors as result Of the expansion remains
to be seen, but, whether we do or not. 1t
is only question of degree. Those who
have opposed the policy of expansion
have been beatensb by logical facts; by the
fact that when We took the Sandwich
Islands We were making outlying posts
where the United States could gather its
fleets of warships to be ready for what
ever may happen on the Pacific
Gen. Miles. Paymaster General Stewart
of the army, and John A. Kasson were
7 among the other speakers.