The news & observer. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1894-current, 1898-09-04
Judge C|ark's Speech
Continued from Ninth Page.)

that time L was Wiling TO fe-elect nm
for one year, but | knew enough to be
opposed to risking him for four years
When shortly thereafter / found my
views confirmed and told Mr.. Brown we
had done wisely to defeat the four year
term, this racket began. Till then there
had never been the slightest friction be-
Z tween DR.. Kilgo and myself.
In the same interview, he said on ris
ing vote to thank Mr.. Duke and accept
his gift l was present and did not pro
test. Note the difference. On the rising
vote to endorse DIR. Kilgo, he says
q voted las / said above) but on rising
vote to thank Mr.. Duke he merely says
/ did not protest. lie is correct that
there was a difference. The fact is when
. the rising vote was taken to thank Duke
j land / believe one other did not rise
i thought that protest enough, IT protest
q We're necessary. While | did not vote &c
thank Mr.. Duke wish to call attention
to the fact that nowhere in this contro.
versy have / raised the dcbateable ques
ton (whatever my opinions may be-
whether the College ought to receive
money made by a cigarette trust which
is business not only condemned by the
church, but which like all other trusts is
illegal. What / have condemned was
the laudation which endorses the methcd
of making the money. Whether eating
meat that had been set before idols was
unlawful the great apostle left IN open
question but he certainly condemned the
worship of the idol.
Nor have L said aught against the
Methodist church or college. | know
DIR. Kilgo's friends would like to give
it that turn but he is neither the Mctho-
dist church nor is he Trinity College. To
criticise him is not to attack either. With
out my knowledge or desire the Confer
ence elected me a Trustee of the college
and have endeavOred to serve the best
interests of BOTH If | shall satisfy you
that DIR. Kilgo is not proper person
to manage this institution it will be no
pleasure to me. | shall feel that / have
discharged painful duty.
/ will now proceed to review the evil
dence brought out on this investigation.
r In no court of justice could matters be
properly investigated unless there was
process to compel the attendance of wit
i neSses. You have no compulsory pro-
cess for witnesses and that has been the
only chance of escape for the defendant
, OF course those not Methodists can not
: be made to obey your subpoena but
when | accepted your request to get up
the evidence, | understood that Metho-
/ dists, especially ministers would obey t.
But many of the most material witnesses,
among them ministers who would have
readily proven the charges in few min
siutes. by testifying to what they had
5 repeatedly stated, have refused to testi-
: fly and you admit you are powerless to
compel them. Some refuse because it
is unpleas SAINT and they do not wish to
imingle in the affair." Others frankly say
they fear they will be injured by the in
.fluence of the agents of the Duke Cigar
cite Company, and of DR.. Kilgo. Others
! still, who had promised to testify after
their names were furnished to the defen-
dant were touched by some magnetic in
fuence that changed their minds With
this absence of power to compel wit
nesses the prosecution is called to prove
q case. We have done so we think, but
it is nothing to the case we would have
proven if witnesses could be compelled
to testify here as in a court of justice.
In reference to the charge that DIR. Kilgo
was a wire pufler in South Carolina, the
following evidence has been offered you:
Il. G. Beckwith, a graduate of this
college, a Methodist, a gentleman of the
$ highest character, a lawyer of fine abili-
ty was sent by you to South Carolina
! TO get up evidence. He testified here
that he was absolutely Indifferent and
told DIR. Kilgo who went with him that
: he would report the fact as he found it.
He went through South Carolina from
4 one end to the other, stopping at several
important points. He said he conversed
with fifty to seventy-five gentlemen of
gstanding in the Methodist church includ.
: ing four out of six delegates to the Gen
eeral Conference, and with note book in
hand he told you could tell what each
one had said, that witnesses would talk
freely, but that few were willing to have
dispositions, taken. He teld you that
while DIR. Kilgo has some strong parti-
sans there that his character is that of
a. wire-puller and ecclesactical .politi-
clan, that it is generally believed that he.
John o. Wilson and DIR. Kirkland form
ed combination at the Memphis Gener-
al Conference to secure certain offices.
s. DR.. Kilgo's share to be the presidency OF
Z Columbia Female College. He took two
dispositions, Rev. Il. G. Ligon and j. *.
Jennings, which supported this view, but
after that those who expressed those
views would no longer go into deposit
ton. As soon as DIR. kllgo got state
ment from Bishop Duncan favorable to
him, the preachers possibly out of re-
spect to him, ceased giving dispositions,
but they continued to give Mr.. Beckwith
statements which he took down. On
cross-examination DR.. Kilgo drew out of
Mr.. Beckwith the conversation he had
with three men who were favorable TO
DIR. Kilgo, but when Mr.. Beckwith ask
ed in justice to himself to give his con-
yersatiOns with others, and / asked It,
DIR! Kilgo strenuously objected. The door
was closed that you might not have the
truth. My charge was that his reputa-
ton in South Carolina was that of Il
wire-puller and this could only be shown
ny statements of people who knew it,
Reputation is what people say of man.
J1tis necessarily hearsay. Yet DR.. Kilgo
had further examination of Mr.. Beck
with as to his reputa ton ruled out be-
scause it was hearsay.
II. b. Boone, a lawyer Of this place,
a gentleman of wel-known character,
the son of a Methodist minister and a
Methodist himself testified to you that
he formerly lived in South Carolina, has
two uncles who are Methodist ministers
in South Carolina and on a recent visit