Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1898-11-10
SPAIN IS CONTRADICTED
Spanish Presentation Of Saturday IS Re-
piled 10,
JUSTIFICATION FOR UNCLE SANS DEEDS.


PARIS, Nov. .. Today session o. the
peace commissions bcgnln at 2.i5 p. M
and ended at D. M. when the meet
ing oponcd the Americans presented 20
shcir spanish colleagues the answer OF
,ho Unscd states 20 the Claims sub
mtiod on saturday last on behalf 'i
spain. The document IN which the
American an1wer was Get forth cone
slsted ~ nearly my sheets Of type
written matter u was a rcfuiat.on ~
she Spanish allegation that because
she woris possession" ownership
or "ccsslon' do not occur In she proto-
col clause touching upon the Philip
pines the peace commissions have no
right to discuss chem here. and that
even n they ava 20 % must be In the
HIGHT of the alleged fact OF an exterior
agreement that Sapn's sovereignty
should not be impaired.
The Americans answered SPANS
clam Tor the restitution 60 her % pub
lie moneys and customs. collections
taken by the United states officials
since the capitalization ~ Manila, and
made reply 20 Spans claim fur an in-
demniiy on account of the alleged I'M
pssonment by the United States au-
,horltlca % spanish tsoups ~ Manila.
and for their subsequent restraint from
being Of service 10 Spain in the sup
precision Of the resurrection and the
preservation Of property.
The American commissioner. IN thet
reply. held that there was justification
under the sennf Of the protocol Tor the
discussion of tho future - the Philip
pine Islands. and they also claimed that
the occupation Of Manila " military
occupation which iuHtnes the un,ied
States IN collecting che revenues. ad-
Numbering the government and OK
crclainE all che functions or possession.
The Joint session was short because
eenor Monter5 RIOS and Judge Day
conCufrcd In thc service OF the Amer
scan rctUnder upon the Spanish COM
miaronens without a formal reading Of
the paper. which would occupy many
columns In an ordinary newspaper, and
an. adjournment WIS taken until Sat
uriay.
NO PROPOSITIONS MADE
II n quite safe 10 F,y that sho AmerS-
cans have made no propositions re-
EardinE the question VI The Philippines
hut confined Themselves 20 a discussion
OF the proposals and assertions made
by Spain al the previous meeting. Just
what were che terms ~ the American
rejolndcr cannot. of courHe. he uarer-
tained. Hut despite persistent arser-
tons here 10 tho contrary. there 10 no
ground az has already been cahled. for
the spanish contetfion that the United
states acqmcsced, a. the signing ~ the
protocol, IN a1fne reservation by spain
OF her Philippine sovereignty This VI
terly unf1undfd rumor u nov quite
wai Understood 20 have come frpm a
hlgh source not IN sympathy wish the
tufed States.
go. a. .aa. 49,. -. 90.
July esth last the Washington govern
ment received from spain an inquiry
~ 10 the basis on which the war might
BE- terminated. -Four days later, NJ
fhereabouia, tho Information was forth.
coming IN a response embodysnT the
terms % the protocol. save Tor che uae
~ the Philippine paragraph Of che word
Before the response was formally
presented b ". Clmb0n. SPANS rep
rchcntahve IN Washington, he suggest
ed the ubsitution Of the word dis
position" The United states govern
ment acqmeHced. Tho substitution was
made, the formal response Tvaa dolly-
erred 10 ~. Canton. who Forwarded Il
20 Madrfdi and on or about August 7th
spain forwarded her reply which. ~
Affecting me Philippine question. was
cvanlve or ambiguous.
The terms relating - thu Phillip
pines" said the Spanish government.
seem 20 our understanding quite in.
dciinltc. on the one hand the ground
on which the United States believe
themselves To be entitled % occupy Tho
bay, hafhor ana city OF Manila. pendlng
fhr conclusion VI a treaty OF peace. can-
not be that % conquest since. In Hnlte
OF the blockade maintained on tho ga
hy tho American iirct. and in spite of
the relge established on land hy "a ma
tive. supported ana provided nir hy an
American admiral Manila silu holds
IT, own AMI the Spanish standard stlu
waves over th' city on the ufhfr
hand. the whole archipelago " ths
philippines ~ In the power and under
the sovereignty Of spain
Therefore the government ~ Spain
thinks that the temporary occupation
" Manila should constitute "a guaranty
II n rlld the treaty " peace rhnll DO.
tcimlnn the control disposition and
government " the Philippines. bat 40
the Intentions Of the Federal govern
m"nt remain yelled, the spanish rlv-
efumont must therefore declare that
while accepting the third condition.
they do not "a prl0rl renouncc the aOt.
ertignty Of Spain over tho archipelago
leaving n 10 tho neel'ai0rs 10 un-
nnunce aa 90 such reforms nH the cone
dluonf M these possessions and tho
ievel OF tho culture ~ their natives may
render deslrlhle. The Elyornmrm uf
her maieHiy accepts the thIui condl-
ton, with the Shove. mentioned declAr-
nilons."
AMBIGUOUS NOTE.
This part ~ spalns mote was deemed
unantlafaCtnry ut Washington. as cll-
culatcd 90 breed Misunderstanding and
N lefi unUhaiitnFl a. aH holding exactly
the possibilities uf dlHHnuHIuu which 10
n now sought 90 Introduce into the
negotiations herC. Tho Federal author.
Tiles, thercfOra,Du or about August ION.
addressed Co N. Camuou. a rtmmunl-
cation pointing out thnt while Jhr fore
gulng uttrrlrees from Madrid were un-
deuiuui hy him 90 convey spain'a ac-
cepmnce ~ the terms N peace. the
acceptance was not entirely explicit.
ana that the most direct and certain
way of avoiding Misunderstanding
was 20 emhudy IN the protocol the terms
on which me negotiations for peace
was 10 be undertaken.
Along with this note was sent Do ~
camb1n a protocol embodylng the pre-
else terms rendered go spain in The
American communication OF July aOth
or thereahauts Immediately upon rf.
ceiylng them NJ. camb1n transmitted
the protucol 10 Madrid, accompanied
showing mat the French cmhaa7 ndur
knew the United States government,
ala not regard spainH response 90 Che
peace terms as satisfactory or ace pi.
able.
N. Cambon's message 10 spain WINS "a
follows THE federal goverumenl
has decided 10 state precisely tprociscrl
In protocol the basis upon which Che
peace Negotiations must ln their iuis'
mont ha gnfnreN uu.tu l hfrfsuaff h aaH a