The times., 1898-02-16
MAKES Mr.. T|LLMAN MAD
MIR. Money Questions His Knowl-
edge Of Naval Affairs.
TILT AT THE TREATY DEBATE
The mississippi Senator Is Inter-
rupted During His Splendid Argu.
ment for Annexation by the South
CaroltniaU, and Verbal Combat
Follows.

The debate in executive session over
the Hawaiian treaty yesterday was
characterized by a little tilt between
Senator Money, who had been advocat-
ing annexation, and Mr.. Tillman, who
is opposed to it.
MIR. Money made a magnificent
speech in favor of annexation, one of
the best that has been heard since the
debate was opened by the fine argu-
ment of the chairman of the Committee
on Foreign Relations. Mr.. Money took
the ground that over and above all
other considerations, the American
Government should take the islands,
because they were essential to the well
fare and protection of this country. He
discussed the question from the mill
tary standpoint, and contended, as
have so many others, that with these
islands the United States would be
masters of the situation, so far as the
Pacific was concerned. Mr.. Money
found ample precedents for the posi-
ton he held in Democratic annals,
and asserted that the annexation OF the
islands was indorsed by all the Demo-
cratic Presidents from the days of JEFF
ferson down. Even Cleveland, he held,
must have been in favor of annexation,
or his Secretary of State, MIR. Bayard,
would not have been, and that MIR.
Bayard believed the islands would be
eventually annexed there could be. Mr..
Money said. no doubt
IL was while Mr.. Money was disGsss-
ing the military and naval advantage
of the islands that Mr.. Tillman inter
rupted him and wanted TO know why
any foreign power could not carry its
hi "a,
coaling ships of war. This, he con-
tended. could be easily done. and, that
being true, from his standpoint, the
Hawaiian Islands lost their value as a
base Of supplies.
Amy man." said Mr. Money. "who
ever read any of the naval history OF
modern warfare, would know that
ships of war could not be successfully
coaled from transports. If you had
read naval history you would not have
asked such a question
Well" retorted Mr.. Tillman, j
have read Capt. Mahan's history OF
IiaN al warfare, and ! still contend tnat
that could be done"
IF YOU have read that history re-
piled Mr.. Money, there is no possible
excuse for the question you have ask
ed
We'll. I assert now that there is 10
reason why coal cannot be carried in
sailing vessels for the use of warships
in me of war and j have not been sat .
isfactorily answered by the gentleman
from Mississippi replied Mr.. Tillman.
Il have a right to expect a response
to my questions. j do not propose to
be held up here as an ignoramus.'
MIR. Money disclaimed any intention
of being rude to Mr.. Tillman or of ac-
cusing him of being an ignoramus.
Il have been in the Senate now three
years. said Mr.. Tillman, and 1 have
endeavoTed to act as a gentleman, but
j do not propose to be sat down upon"
BY this time Mr. Money had conclud-
ed his argument and took his seat
Several Senators called up nominations
and half a dozen were on their feet at
the same time endeavoring to get the
attention of the presiding officer, Mr.
Gallinger, who happened TO be in the
chair. Among this number was Mr..
Tillman, who wished to reply to
Mr. Money Mr.. Tillman, unfor-
tunately, could not get the eye
of the presiding officer, and he
proceeded TO yell at the top of his voice /
and he kept up his demand for recog- /
milton until Mr.. Gallinger. in self de- 1
fense, was compelled to give him audi /
ence Mr. Tillman accused the chair .
with a deliberate intention of refusing I
to see him but the chair stated that I
several Senators We're clamoring for /
recognition and he had not been able I
10 see them ali at one time. MIR Till /
man was Modified. but he will reply to
Mr. Money AT the next executive ses-
cip