The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1898-11-16
Spanish Members May, However. De.
cline 10 Continue fhe Discussion,
Except in Their own Way.
CARLlsTS PLOTTING AGAIN
MADRID GOVERNMENT UNEASY AND
PREPARING FOR TROUBLE.
Rumor that an American Fleet VIII
Visit the Peninsula Reported to
Have Caused Much Excitement.

PARIS, Nov 1.-THE Spaniards declare
that their refusal to sign treaty based
on any Philippine terms thus far suggested
by the United States is irrevocable They
say that they do not and cannot view the
taking of the philippines as anything else
than wanton ravishment of their possess
sions unless it is accompanied by a financial
consideration of appreciable size. There
fore the turn of events in the peace confer
ence depends on the purpose OF the willing
ness of the American commissioners to ex-
tend their financial terms. Spanish
sovereignty in the Philippines is now clung
to by the Spaniards chiefly as a means to
obtain financial relief, if possible. 1t is al
most purely a matter of money now if the
amount be large enough to absolve the
Spanish government from possible charges
by her creditors that the collateral has been
given away. Persons near to Spain's
heaviest creditors believe that should the
Americans assume the Philippine debt or
pay Spain it's face amount in cash the Span
tards would sign.
This view is new in the quarters where
1t now prevails, because time has been re-
quired for the Spaniards to become con-
vinced that the American commissioners
do little, if any, diplomatic jockeying and
that their final attitude may be found
identical with their first. If they have not
already done SO, the Spanish commissioners
viii ultimately advise the Americans that
they must not permit any controversy as to
the binding character of the mortgage rest
ing on the revenues of the Philippines to
pay the so-called Cuban debt Tenacious
adherence to this claim would set up on
the Spanish side an ultimatum under which
no treaty would be signed which did not
stipulate that the Philippine revenues
should pay the Philippine debt In such
event the Americans would probably claim
that the Philippine debt of $4OOO0OOO
amounts to $2O,o0O.O00 in gold, of which about
$l1,OOO,0OO has been employed in fighting
the United States, leaving less than
$lO,O00,O0O chargeable in gold to the
Philippines. Indeed, the United States would
contend that even the reduced amount was
used in fighting the Filipinos and object to
the Spanish conclusion that it is a fair
charge against the Americans. Trouble will
'~ise, however, before that stage is reached,
4s ne Spanish commissioners will undoubt-
Sdly Inform the Americans that the latter
have no right to exact a schedule of Spain's
+ expenditures or any explanation regarding
: the destination Of the money secured on
+ these loans.
Spaniard who is posted as to the exact
status of affairs Informed the correspondent
of the Associated Press this evening that
he did not believe the Spanish commission
ers would take their final stand at to-mor-
rows session, although he thought it pos
sible they might finally decline to continue
the discussion except within the limits of
Spsin's construction of the protocol This is
another way. of saying Spain may cease
her contentious. Should she do so she would
make an open protest to the world against
''spoliation."
The French police to-day conducted to the
! frontier a man named Simon Rivas who had
once attacked Senior Montero Rios in the
I streets of Madrid and who had followed
him here. presumably with the intention of
killing him.