The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1898-01-23

was asked.
i was down 1t Fernandina on a survey.
getting a cross profile of the work there, .
was the reply.
Was not that also for use in the Carter
case?" Mr.. Charlton asked.
The witness said first. he did not lrnou,
what the profile was to be used for. but
afterwards stated the profile was intend
ed Tor evidence in the Carter case. He
had also surveyed or aided in surveying
the breakwater. He had been employed
on the Carter case, he said. ever since
the matter came PIP. with the exception
OF two or three days when he was fixing
some TIDE gauges. He said he had seen
several people with regard to the Carter
case under instructions from Cant. Gil
lette He did not know exactly how he
was carried on the pay roll, but thought
as Inspector and surveyor.
Col Barr took up the witness on the
fedirect examination. Col. Barr was pres
ent When Mr.. Hale was informed as to
what mllltary fascine was, and was talk
ing with him about the evidence he was
70 give. He brought out the witness
knowledge OF the work he had charge OF
ana the witness was then dismissed
Mr.. q. A. Geiseler assistant engineer
in the United States engineer office was
the next witness sworn. He said he had
peen employed in the engineering dis
NAASN 1AiiSC 1907 WITH the execution of a
year ana half, during which he served
in the United States engineers in 81,
Augustine
Mattresses, fascines and stone" he
said were the principal articles used in
the works here. l am familiar with the
specifications
lie SAID he had made a revised estimate
OF the cost OF the mattresses such as were
required by the specifications. The cost
OF log mattress of tho fret
estimated at 6S cents per square yard. and
explained how he arrived at his estimate.
Inc cost of the second design of mattresses
according to Specifications he estimated
at 10 40 cents, and of the third design As is
cents a square yard He was not fsmil-
lar, ne said, with the mattresses used un-
DER the contract of 1895. He had seen those
useo IN the works under the contract of
1892 and estimated the cost of them al
IL 20 cents per square yard. Upon this
estimate also he went into details. The
contract prices for these last mattresses.
he said, were $1.1O per square yard for
Cumberland sound and IS cents for Sa-
Vannah.
On the cross examination he said the
construction of mattresses or fascines. had
never been part of his duties, but had
come under his observation. His esti-
mates We're based on information, most
Oh winch came from other people. and
might, he said, contain errors.
lie had done some work at Cumberland
sound after Mr.. Marion Twiggs left. On
his second trip to Fernandina in October
ne went to make survey of the jetties to
De used as evidence in the Carter case
Win you went down to Fernandina did
capt. Gillette tell you to look up the cred
ltors of the contractors and see what in
formation you could get from them?" was
asked.
Capt. Gillette gave me pencil mem
orandum, asking me to look up the credit
ors OF the contractors, was the reply.
What did you reply to that?" Mr..
Charlton asked.
i answered him by letter." Mr.. Giese-
Ter said, and told him he could find that
out to better advantage, perhaps, by ad-
vertising in the newspapers"
asked.
Yes, sir. told Capt Carter that that
was not in my line that l could not do
such things; that is, was not an expert
in such things" Mr.. Gieseler said.
Did you not. tell him that you were not
detective?" was asked.
Il think l did say l was not in the de-
tective line, or that 1 was not gifted as
a detective, or something like that" was
the reply. Mr.. Gieseler also stated that
he was directed by Capt. Gillette to look
into the Hutchison's Island matter in con-
nection with the Carter case.
Were you required to do anything else
In connection with the prosecution which
you declined to do?" was asked.
Yes, but 1 cannot recall what it was
now. 1t. was something entirely harmless,
but what it was 1 don't recall now" was
the reply.
Did not the terms bundles of brush and
military fascines spring. up after Capt.
Gillette came here?' was asked.
Eyes, SIR was the reply
Where did you first get your idea Of
a military fascine?" Mr.. Charlton ask
ed.
ut was explained by Capt. Gillette, .
was the reply. 81 got from him all I've
ever heard about military fascines."
Which fascine do you regard the best
for this work? 2" was asked
II don't believe in Capt Gillette's mill
tary fascine at ALL for work of this kind, y
was the answer. Il believe that fascine is
best which has the greatest number Of
small twigs and leaves but in both cases
they should be well choked. l prefer the
brush fascine because it holds better to
the bottom. catches the silt better and
builds uo better"
The witness said the work had accom-
plished what was sought, the depth OF the
river being increased since 1889 from l9 TO
26 feet at mean high water. The result
had been attained Wltlln INe dppIOpl IA
ton and within the estimate OF the pro-
ject.
On the redirect examination he said he
had a good deal to do with the project
and estimates for the contract of 1882, but
Capt Carter was responsible for 1t, OF
course He considered himself competent
to make such an estimate, even though
not familiar with all the details.
The specifications say well trimmed
brush" but he did not think that meant
that all the leaves and twigs should be
stripped off. Fascines could be well trim
med without that He would leave twigs
and leaves on them to some extent, ne
thought. Nevertheless he thought the
trimming should be put in the speeihca-
lions as was done, because projecting
branches should be trimmed off, and also
outside leaves. The stuff on the jury plat
form he considered all right for fascines,
IL nroperly choked. It would take two OF
those bundles 10 make a specification ms
cine. and they had been so used by the
contractors in some instances. The brush
did NOT present now the same appearance
as when cut. nh
Mai Stanton asked if a man making
n hid would understand what well TRIM
roed meant Mr. Geiseler thought so,
but did not think it was as clear as II
sbould be. Inquiries upon points in the
enecifcations and contract were frequent
-, ,oade nv contractors who wanted 10