The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1898-01-30
CURRENT SPORTING TALK.
JOHN warn sAKs BALE PLArERs
no Nor WANT TO KFSK.


Tr,r,ey Roaa Presidents Ceprer on ihe rrepo-
sit,on or BsIidInR New Grounds for the
RrooLiyns-Ai Johnssn VIII Have = sum
day n~tamsnd-McCoy DodEca Peter Mnher.
srbcro 1, probablyn no man moro familiar with the
causes and results of rowdyism on the BASEBALL
neld than John Montgomery Ward. ox-managcr
Of the New Works, who is now attorney for tho
Nassau Electric Railroad ut Brooklyn. Ward,
In his prime, was ono Of the most Sensational
ulnycrs in the country. He believed In az
arossivcness. but in 1894, when the New Works,
under his care, won tho Temple Cup, he did not
disgust patrons of the game with senseicss
Kicking, although he was always o stickler Tor
q strict Interpretation Of the rules. Ward has
been reading the various interviews with lead
ipc baseball men in THE Sun on the question
~ stoppinv the kicking evil, and when he was
nskcd Yesterday for his views. he had ono or
Two points TO exploit that have not been touched
upon.
."This kicking against the decisions Of tho'um-
miro must co. said Ward. ut has disgustod
the public, and the magnntcs will have to abol-
i.h It without further ado. Kicking in the
League became an offensive evil when the
American Association Clubs were taken into
thd lively e-club circuit, and 1t has been getting
vdfsesand worse. Until last year 1t was simply
intoierablc. There was cleaner and better ball
playing before the kickers got to the front, and
tho games were far moro enjoyable than they
were in various cities Lost season.
There 1. no denying the fact that the mag
pates, or owners Of tho clubs, are primarily and
almost wholly to blame for the evil. 1t will
perhaps DO n surprise to the public to know that
there 10 nobody more anxious to have kicking
abolished than tho ball players themselves.
That's a point that has not been mentioned be-
fore, but it is absolutely true. for l know what
r---.llinr about HALL nlarers yhn ara nv
friends, have told me time and again that they
wisifed this kicking business could DO stopped,
for they were sick and tired OF making fools Of
themselves In the presence OF fair-minded per-
soma. I've played ball myself. and l know for o
fact that owners OF clubs have personally or
dored the moro quietly disposed players to kick
over decisions, Just to show ginger and there
by satisfy an alleged public demand. 1t is also
true that players nowadays believe that II they
do not kick they will not stand well with their
employers and with the public, and for that rea-
son many serious rows are stirred up ON tho
fefd that could BIO ayerted by the magnates in
a few worlds.
.;Kickiny by such men as Tebeau, Joyce,
Lender is extolled for asserting, his rights in
the shape of making an awful kick against some
unfortnpa,c umpire. and promptly falls in line
with similar kicks, having an idea that the
an erroneous decision without kicking, because
they want To DO gentlemen; but III they did SO
they would be accused OF not playing for the
best interests of their clubs. 1t Is an everyday
occurrence TO hear the President Of a club say to
his men: That umpire was a robber to-day.
u DO Is here TOMORROW, give 1t to him good; and
111mlap a ,ya The ei fines, ki II + se psFleSt tSa mst SeIieys eh tsey
are, Convincing their employers of their earnest
Kicking wastes time. When 1 was Cap
tain Of the New Works 1 used to ask my players
mot to kick. but to use all Of their time on tho
in order to lot a ratified pitcher get a short rest,
or something Of that sort. and in almost every
In The daes .or!d pq that Winning Winning bali can Ss'i he played
without kicking was shown last season by the
B ass SIn;sS T 6snt T9n the b aHa Is the eSba apppin. sp
far as Joyce is concerned. believe he would be
very happy is he received instructions from the
New York Club to let umpires alone. Bill is q
He'll. He has developed his kicking propensi-
to look to for reforms"
,Aeceording TO indications, the Brooklyns will
new n.,Se! gr9 sns Tb IGrSts snd Se Fos91b F sGenu and s ThltS
at new grounds to Be built at the coney Island
terminus of the Nassau road, President Eb-
that lie had under consideration six locations
for grounds. and among. them he mentioned
~tintions had progressed beyond the fact thar he
thought the trolley roads OF Brooklyn ought to
,sha s0@ foT n noW stands asu and ! i fone as.fa It tn appears pc ss.
however, that Ebbets has all along been working
the wires toward making come deal for the
This place, as is well known, is close by the
old Weshingtoa P itS and is owned BY the
Information, has got n sort Of option on the
property ut an annual rental Of about $5, 900.
Railroad and President Albert l.. johnson OF tho
Nassau road had n conference yesterday morn
fSe E absSSSfaihf L a w ps0 reporsed S that the later tt rp Sad
Informed them that he had secured an OPP
ton on the GROUNDS and would ;im%ediateIyy
build . ths P5 eSsddt stands: After 4 Tob his Sonf sfG
1T is true that President Rossitor and myself
have just had a talk over the proposed lease OF
Brooklyn Baseball Club. and ~ltossitcr has agreed
10 put up half the money needed to build the
abe about f 10000 THAT that ne needed and RessiteS thinks
entrance 70 the grounds could, be established on
tho corner of, First street and Fourth avenue,
ley road and nearly three blocks from the IL"
station mt Third street. AS far as the Nassau
s sf%sr Is sb son nrnnosiii Eou o sah say assI .a : we b %i11 eT Ws
make any decision. i have had some expert
ence in baseball matters. and I'm not inclined to
jump readily at conclusions. We may go In
with tho Brooklyn Heights road on this deal,
and then again we may not; The grounds are
ten minutes ride. from the City Hall. and there
Is no doubt but that the baseball public would
welcome a change from Eastern Park. II tho
deal goes, through It is doubtful II the now
Rrotnds could be fitted up in time for the reg
ular League opening, so that possibly the first
games OF the season might be played at Eastern
Park
As far as the grounds for Sunday ball games.
II they are played, is concerned. President john
son said that he intended to build n big ground
at the terminus OF tho West End road and
would have IL finished in the spring.
The ground will be located directly behind
the Nassau roads new Concy Island depot
said johnson, land IL will be 700 feet'squaro.
1t is my intention 10 build stands on II that will
seat 10000 persons and also to construct a
wooden bicycle track OF the finest make. We
would be very glad to have the Brooklyn Club
rent the ground from US for Sundays at almost
their own terms"
johnson, 1t will be remembered, was the owner
Of Lhe Cleveland Players Lengue Baseball Club
tn 1890 and has always been II lover of the ma
tonAl game. lie believes that n winning team
o. Brooklyn will be a big money maker, and
says he hopes that Ebbets and Barnie can pro-
duce one.
When Kid Mccoy recently posted his elastic
5000 to fight ANY heavy weight in the world,
Corbett and Ftzsimmons preferred" he did not
1OIra nm tho nnagthglify nf I'm inu Nj p,onaw