New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1898-03-26
COLUMBIA WINS IN DEBATE.
THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO BEATEN

r-,, src-RrrARrEs JOHN O. CARLISLE AM
CHARLES s FArRcHrLD AND Ex-AMBAs-
sApoR Eusrrs. THE JUDGES DECIDE
THAT THE BEST POINTS WERE
MADE AGAINST INcREAs-
ING THE NAVY.
Columbia University obtained the judges award
n tho debating contest last night between repre-
sentatiyes OF that University and the Ch'VeisnS
of Chicago. Tho subject OK the oe"a'e was.
solved That the policy OF increasing the ohiteu
ctatcs NAVY IA wise and should be continued
Th amrnotive was taken by Chicago. and the
roga,ive nv Columbia No debate OF TINS Kihu ]"
recent wears has attracted so much attention as
this The Madison Square Concert nan "he'e !"
a ,o,d voq crowded to the doors. and every point
uade nv the speakers was followed WIN INTENSE
interest The speeches were OF remarkably his"
nh,roc,er both I'm deyery and argument. ana the
statement OF ex-Secrctary John G. CARLISLE speak
Ing for the Judges that they had found cons'ue,
able difficulty in making their decision can wen
no credited It is certain that hardly person IN
the audience could have told before the decision
,yos made what 1t was likely to be. II there was
ANYTHING to choose between the contestants I"
might perhaps be said that while CoiuHio'a was
strong I'm logic IL weaker than Nhlcaso III
forensic power And 1t IS even necessary 70 quar-
~, this criticism for the last two speakers on
oocb side-ord the crack men OF both universities
uero rosorvod for the last-possessed equal powers
OF course none OF the speakers was oy any ihea"'
n perfect orator. The fault OF all young speahers-
n TOO quick delivery-was present IN a ere"'el vi
less degree In all the debaters. Not the swftes'
stenogranher in the country could have taken
dovr tho half Of some OF the speeches. Tho WORDS
trimmed after each other quickly that they ire
ouentlv became mixed up. But everything co'-
sidered Il was a remarkable display OF doi"'y
from all those who took part in the DEBATE "
lGfn
and close logic.
THE DEBATERs.
The dobaters were: -. 1,os
Chicago-Edward Sherwood Meade, OF 1ou ngs-
town ohio: Charles Albert trederck,, .colHHs'
Iowa. and Michael Francis GaiaSher, CNHnwlYork
cbarIes Frederick wheaton Yonkers, and Joseph
Meyer Proskauer. Mobile Ala: ,o., r coruslo
administration James b Eustis. and ex-Secretary
Charles S Falrchd. 80, a,o,i,o, ,o-
his first speech, and five minutes in which to reply
70 Pr ris Seth Low Of Columbia presided and
In a few opening words welcomed the audience
and the visitors from Chicago Ii lie s ssid de aa
last year. but had been unsuccesSIul This year
that this would be the first Of many debates be
tween the two universities each TIE representative
for granted that another year the Columbia men
would to Chicago and In closing, SAID amid
have exactly the right measure Of success
Of the University Of Chicago who began the debate
on f1e affirmative side His portion of the argument
in favor of the increase Of the Navy was confined
to an attempt to show that force Is the ultimate
tribunal to which disputes between nations must
organzation he said for the arbitration of quarreIs
between nations. which shall be possessed OF sum
would maintain its interests and rights BY sufficient
& Mr. t "a bs nddrc ae He remark
THE United States never built batte-ship IN less
a gunner or a lieutenant. You no more create |
a Navy when war occurs than you can create hre
Mr. Gallagher followed by Bernard NJ /" !
Ernst OF Columbia In clever speecn ne cUn,en9
but but never war The interests Of European nations
IN this country we're too large for any recourse |
to force. lie quoted James Bryce as saving: |
on or rs NJ ba p9Tfr could possibly gain by war
with the United States" Mr., Ernst asked what |
those in favor Of an increased Navy meant Did
they want three ships or thirty. an expenditure OF
rather neatly. do not confuse plan with policy
Work i' Of the GoyeTnment to attend to the plans
by which tho policy should be carried out We
cason trust w to ha3 @O's Of
the sea last year and yet to pTStect THIS snTr
new. modern. seagoing vessels; :" ~,
cago men by quoting a speech OF Professor Van
Hoist. OF Chicago University to me erect tnat
W H en beace was "s its own hands Mr.
n nS3 o Great Britain and other European Pow
ers saying that these vast burdens. once assumed
be always with the nation dsSuies NiioHi'
THE MONROE DOCTRINES INFLUENCE.
Edward S. Meade the last speaker for CHI
cago In an effective speech he said thar, nrst' |
tho United States might be drawn into war not
OF its own making, and. second. by the enforce
mont OF the Monroe Doctrine, what would be left |
he asked. TO satisfy tho hunger OF the European
colonlzing nations after Africa and Asia had been
divided? Were not Central and South America
the only portions OF the earth left? There were
many excuses a foreign Power might make 10 at
tack one OF these States unpaid debts among them.
Joseph NJ Prokauer replied for Columbia. He
said that 500 10000 O OF European capital were in
vested in the United States. II this country at
tempted 70 vie IN armament with the European
Powers II would have navy too big FOR use
against the smaller nations and too small 70
frighten the great nations
After the various speakers had made brief re-
plies TO the arguments OF their opponents, tho
Judges retired and when they reappeared ex-Sec-
rotary Carlisle said that where all had done so
well they found considerable difficulty in making
the award, but. considering the whole presentation
OF the case from both Sides they thought the de-
csion should be IN favor OF the men who held the
negative.
The announcement was received with terrific APP
pause cheers and Columbia College yels lasting
for minutes.
The Chicago debaters afterward the guests
OF the Columbia representatives at dinner in tho
Holland House.
DROGHEDA WINS TIE GRAND NATIONAL.