The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1898-03-16
AN OPEN MEETING
The Radicals Hold a Quite Lively
Session.
AMERICAN LEAGUE HALL
LEAGUE
HALL
Remarks BY Mr.. Loebenstein - Mr.,
Achi and His Amendment Mr..
Kaeo-SeVeraI Other Speakers.


LUCE down at the American League hall
last night, with the hand Of President
Murray On the flood valve. The crowd
was a big one, using about all the
seating capacity. The gathering in
Guided men from about all the walks
Of life represented in Honolulu.
Mr.. Loebenstein told how it hap
pened" and if he had been seeting it up
in type by hand would have run out
Of "cap rs" in about three revolutions
Of an electric light meter. But Mr.. Loe-
bernstein was interesting and radical
and positive and had the house with
him. He was bold and determined.
| The gentleman from Hawaii has not
been crushed by his opponents Of the
House and will not confess real defeat
| for his proposed amendment to the
| Constitution by extending the franchise
through wiping the Monarchial men
ton from the oath of fealty. He re-
lated how discussion of the question
had been postponed for a week and
then how advantage had been taken
by forcing a reconsideration Of that
course and burying the measure within
"a hours. Mr.. Loebenstein made for
the proposed amendment the same ar
guments that he had advanced to the
League on a former occasion. He read
in full the speech he had made in the
House on the afternoon the American
Minister was spectator. Mr.. Loeben-
stein charged that the Executive had
suppressed his remarks and had given
the speech of Minister Cooper to the
press through the Cabinet stenogra-
pher While reading this speach Mr..
ILoebenstein was frequently interrupt
ed with applause. The address gave
views to the effect that majority rule
had to come here even before annex
alton and that the way to get the
Hawaiians to register and vote and
take part in the affairs of the Govern
ment was to eliminate the objection
able feature of the oath.
Mr.. Achi, who said that from Janu-
airy II, 1898, he had been an anneXa-
zionist, gave it as his opinion that I'M
less his proposed amendment to the
Constitution was adopted it would
show that the Government was not in
earnest for utilization with the United
States He wants a reapportionment
with the House membership increased
from fifteen to twenty-one. The basis
of his argument is that the House mem
bers are from the common people and
the Senators from the wealthy voters.
He cited the relative size of the House
and Senate in the Congress of the
United States Warming to the sub
ject, Mr. Achi said that if the Govern
ment did not repose trust in the peo-
pie it could not last He explained
that he had six votes in the House for
his amendment and that if his hearers
would only put shoulders to the wheels
two of the Oahu delegation could be
put into the ranks of the refomerS
and insure success. He had secured
postpOnement of a final vote on the
act by a parliamentary trick he had
learned a long time ago. He asserted
that if the act passed and was vetoed
by the President it would be a sign
that the Executive was not in favor
Iof American methods.
Mr.. KaeO, an attorney of Kauai who
: represents that Island, or a district oil
it in the House, said first Of all that
he was in favor Of placing a license
on opium the same as was done in the
Unitede States. He objected seriously
to non-voters holding offices when
there were many voters, just as capable
as the nOn-vOterS, wanting the posi-
tons Mr. KaeO animadverted some
what on the limitations of the Consti-
tuition and then drifted into the realm
of financial discussion. From his re-
marks it may be said to be certain
that he is either a single standard ad-
vocate, or 16 to 1 apostle. Mr.. KaeC
; is not satisfied with what he has learn
ed already in the House from the Min
lister of Finance and is having some
more bull's-eye questions framed.
Mr.. Benjamin Napthaly made quite
a patriotic and stirring speech. Mr.
Nathaly believes in freedom and does
not see why there should be any bar
against its existence and exercise IN
Hawaii the same as in the United
States. He said he had not been here
long enough to familiarize himself
with the issues of the day. Mr.. Nap
thaly dealt only in generalities anC
earned lots of applause.
c. S. Desky said simply that he would
not undertake to make political talk
but he believed that taxpayers here
should be permitted to vote.
Mr. Dan'l Logan was at length pre-
vailed upon to make an address, it be-
: ing explained to him that there had
been a public promise of orations by
legislators and other eminent speakers
Mr.. Logan gave his record as that o.
an annexationist for fourteen years
but opposed to any and all secret soci-
eties-political or otherwise. He TOLD
| II, wv =
one of the Cabinet Ministers Of 1885,
and of quarrel with another Of the
same Cabinet, mentioning but one
name. Mr.. Logan was against botf
the amendment of Mr.. LOebensteiI
and the opium plan OF Mr.. Kaeo. He
said he had a suspicion that some OF
the members of the Legislature wanted
Kaiulani to rule here and that she was
an amiable young lady, but if in pow
er would be under the control of plu-
tocrats. Mr.. Logan at several stages