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The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
ROBBED A TAILOR STORE
BURGLARS CARRY OFF SI75
WORTH OF PROPERTY
Sunday Evening the Rich Haul Was
Made by the Bold and Ex-
pert Thieves.

Mayor Kiefer says that If a policeman 8
beat is touched" more than once without
the guilty parties being arrested, then off
goes the officers head. According to this
rule the patrolman supposed to be guarding
Duncan G. Barry's tailor establishment 81
East Fourth street, has but one more guess
as burglars entered the store shortly after Ii
O'Clock Sunday night and carried off half of
the stock in the place. How so bold burg
larry could be so successfully accomplished
when the streets were filled with people going
from the theaters and street cars running
by the tailor shop door every few minutes
while two arc lights illuminate the doorway.
is somewhat puzzling, but the burglars did a
neat job and got away with SITS worth of
suitings.
The thieves were evidently skilled crooks
as they secured an entrance to the store by
means of skeleton keys, thus avoiding making
any noise by forcing an entrance. Once in
side the burglars closed the door and at their
leisure picked out the highest grade cloth IN
the SHOP. The stolen cloth was In six bolts,
so when the robbers emerged with their booty
they must have presented an unusual appear
ance on the streets Sunday night with their
arms full OF worSteds, cheviots and tweeds,
but no one interfered with their venture,
and the first known Of the robbery was when
the policeman the beat found the store
door open shortly after midnight
1t was locked when he tried it at II o'clock
but within six minutes one of his chances Of
holding his job was gone, together with the
firms property,
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08

only natural Cross Questioned ond
pumped by half dozen brow-heating
detectives and officials with hang.
mans moose dangling over his brother.
of course Harry denied what I said,
but this does not change the facts
harry Eomunds gave me the watch"
Kauth will be held on the oh aree OF
stealing Middleton's watch until further
developments in the case. He saws if
given hearing ON the charge Of
larceny he can easily establish his in.
,nocence. This, however, County Attor-.
ney Anderson and his private detec-
tives care nothing about They want
to be able to say some one is under
arrest In the Middleton case and simply
charge Kauth with larceny to hold him
until some one else turns upon the sun,
posed guilty parties.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
GREEK MINISTRY RESIGNS.
Members Decide That Their Work
Has Been Completed

Has Been Completed.
ATHENS, Nov. THE cabinet has
resigned, its members considering that
the exceptional circumstances under
which they assumed office have expir,
ed. The ministry was constituted Oct
8, 1897, as follows:
President of the council and minister of
foreign affairs, M. Zamis
Minister of the interior, M Corpa.
Minister Of finance NJ STREET.
Minister Of justice, NJ. Toman
Minister of marine, Capt Kirachoros
Minister OF war, Gen. Smolenski,
Minister OF public instruction, NJ Panagio-
topoulos.
The exceptional circumstances re-
ferred to by the ministers were the I'M
satisfactory conditions prevailing in
Greece after the unsuccessful war with
Turkey. The Zamis government sue
ceeded the Rail- cabinet, which only
lasted about month. On Sept. 8, 1897.
NJ. Ralli, the then premier, after re,
viewing the events leading up to the
signing of the peace conditions, propos,
ed vote of confidence in the govern
ment, but amid great excitement in the
chamber the resolution was defeated by
a vote of SO to 30, which caused the
resignation OF the cabinet.
M. Zanis has been entrusted with
the reconstruction Of the cabinet.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08

NEW YORK, Nov. 1.-THE following
odds offered by takers here offer
fair forecast of scheduled ring battles
Nov. -11-At Boston: Tom Carpenter VS..
Tom Williams. Carpenter. to 8; Williams,
Nov. 11-At New York: Dave Sullivan VS..
George Dixon, twenty rounds. Dixon, even
money; Sullivan, 7 to 10.
Nov 14-At Bridgeport, Conn: Mysterious
Billy" Smith VS.. Tommy West Four. to o,
take your pick.
Dan Murphy. Four to g. take your pick.
Nov. 14-At Louisville, KY: Jack Bonner
vs. Tom Lansing. Bonner, to 5; Lansing,
Nov. Sat Athens, Pa: Charley McKeever
vs.. Young Mahoney. McKeever. to 8; Ma
Nov. i8NAt San Francisco: Spider" Kelly
Nov. 19-At Chicago: Tim Callahan VS..
Harry Forbes. Callahan. / to 2; Forbes,
Nov. 22-At San Francisco: Kid Lavigne VS..
Tom Tracey; Tracey to 8; Layigne, 3 to !:
vs.. Tom Sharkey. Corbett, to 2; Sharkey,
Nov 28-At Cleveland, O.: George Dixon vs.
Oscar Gardner: Dixon, 2 to 5; Gardner, to l.
Nov. 24-At Louisville, KY: Jim Franey vs.
jim Ryan. FrSney. 2 to 8; Ryan, to /
Peter Maher. Mccoy, 2 to .; Maher, 2 to |.
Dec. 5-At London, England: "Darky'' Wal
lace VS.. Ben Jordan. Wallace, to l; Jordan,
Jim Jef1ries. Sheehy, to l; Jeffries, 1 to 4.
FITS FUTURE.
Champion Bob Fitzsimmons has a
valet. Everybody that went to see tine
actor-pIygilist in the "Mulligan
Guards Ball" in Chicago didn't see the
boy in brass buttons and gold braid,
but he was behind the scenes just the
same, and scampering around obeying
his Ianky master just as all Wallets are
supposed to do. 1t is the first season
fcllat Bob has ever thought that an
understudy was necessary.
AS for the valet, he is g, positive
wonder The Prince of Wales would
think he was more valuable than a Tod
Sloan If he should ever get even a
nCnocle glimpse at him. He is gold
braided all over, and brilliant buttons
make his suit of blue look jaunty. On
each side Of his coat collar the word
wallet" is emblazOned in gilt capital
letters. Bob says he's a capital fell
low. AN the chorus girls are after
him.
Fitz has launched off on another an
gle. In his previous shows his ap-
pearance on the stage has been sig
nalized only by the regular bag
punching and sparTing exhibition. But
in the 'Mulligan Guards BALI he as
sumes the role of the actor the real
article. He says a few lines, and he
doesn't tolerate amy prompter off in
the wings either. 1t is certainly a
thrilling moment where Fitz' bit of act
ing sandwiches itself in between a
comedy sketch and a soubrette's song.
1t is apparent that Fitz is deeply at
tached to his family. He intends buy
ing a pretty piece OF land about ten
miles out of New York and building
cozy home. He will do this next
spring.
Bob recently gave away his dog
Yarum and declares he has passed UP
the idea Of having animal pets any
more.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
HAD TO PAY FULL FARE.
Italians for Once Find Themselves
Up Against 1t. e

Italians for Once Find Themselves
Up Against 1t.
Herman Brown, the joint ticket agent
for italian business on the St. Paul
Chicago lines, was busy yesterday ap,
portioning passengers among the sew,
eral lines in the combination. There
We're 100 dusky sons of Italy in the
city and they were with difficulty made
to understand that the day Of cut rates
was passed and that Herman Brown
would fix them out with transportation
at regular rates.
They travelled from office to office de-
manding reduced rates to Chicago and
worried every ticket agent in the city.
The padrones did not like the notion
Of paying 81 a passenger, but they were
obliged to come down with the cash
Mr.. Browns friends in the railroad
offices are thinking of presenting
stiletto to him as g. mark of their con-
fdence and appreciation of his abilities
to wiring the proper fare from tho
Italians. He may need it some day.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Lincoln Autumn Races.

LONDON. Nov. AT the first days rae
ing at Lincoln Autumn meeting, A. A.
Haho's brown filly, Miss Bounce, Won the
Brownlow Nursery stakes. George Lambton' s
Ethelrede, ridden by Tod Sloan, finished sec
ond. Ten horses ran distance of five fur
longs The Great Toll stake of 800 sovereigns
was won by E. J. Percy's fve-year-old chest
lea: Angelina, the property Of D. Seymour,
and ridden by Sloan, was among the eigh-
teen horses in this event, but was unplaced.
Douglas Baird's three-year-old bay colt, Brio,
by Galopin, out of Briar Root won the bod,
dington Maiden plate, 1O6 sovereigns. The
Lorillard-Beresford stables three-year-old
bay gelding, Bayard IL, ridden by Tod Sloan.
&nished second, and Mr.. RaphaePs three-year,
old bay, colt. Sangrando, was third. Distance.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
ONE MORE VICTIM.
Twelfth Body Recovered From
Wonderland Theater Ruins.


Wonderland Theater Ruins.
DETROIT, Mich, Nov. THE ter
ribly mangled body of the twelfth vic
tim of Saturdays theater collapse was
taken from the ruins of the Wonder
land theater today. It was that Of
Charles Miell1e, laborer, and was dis
covered in a, corner of the top gallery.
nearly covered by wreckage When
finally recovered the remains were
wrapped in an undertakers blanket
and lowered to the street with a rope
In full view of crowd Of spectators.
Alphonse de MAN, member of the firm
who had the contract for roofing and
fre-proof1ng the structure, asserts that
one of his men discovered that one of
the roof trusses had detected an inch
and a half, but that the man consid
cred it was only a settling" Of the
roof structure. The weight of the roof
was borne by three steel trusses, each
fifteen feet wide from top to bottom
and long enough so that the ends were
let into the walls on each side of the
building
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
st. Thomas VS.. shattuck.

Lovers of football are considerably excited
over the Shattuck-St. Thomas game, which
will be played on the st. Thomas gridiron
Wednesday at p. M "a
The Shattuck team is a favorite on the
gridiron, for they play a fast snappy sama
and are splendidiy drilled. The ST. Thomas
boys have lots of pluck, and as the state
pennant hangs on this game, they may be
expected to put up a spanking game
The two teams are evenly matched. each
having defeated Hamline by the same score.
and while the knowing ones favor Shattuck
slightly, the result is by no means sure.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08

every railway official and business man
who has the pleasure Of his acquaint-
ance.
During the four years of his connec-
tfon with the Great Northern Mr.. Hard
ing became one Of the most popular
railroad men Who ever came to this
city.
Frank e. Ward, Mr. Harding's sue
cessor as general superintendent of the
Great Northern, started yesterday ON 4
trip over the system. He will examfn.,
every mile of the road from this city
To tha coast
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Oakland Roons

SAN FRANCISCO Nov. 7.-Weather clear
track fast. No racing tomorrow on account
of election. Summarizes
First race. one understandable won. In
Verary II. second, Fleming third. Time 1:4
Second race, one mile and sixteenth
Morinel won, Moringa second, Rey del TERRA
third Time 1:46lb
Third race, purse, five -furlongs-Horton
won, Lime Water second, RANGER third Time
1902.
Fourth race, six furlongs-Headwate won
Obsidan second, Crossmolina third. Time
liz.
Fifth race, six furlongs-Whitcomb won.
Manzanillo second, Roulette Wheel third.
Time, 1:15
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08

months ago an unknown person, supposed at
the time to have been Kihlmeyer, fred three
shots through window at Mrs. Needham.
Kihlmeyer was taken into custody, but was
discharged without any charge being placed
against him.
The pugilist recently returned from Alaska
and tonight the men met Needham made a
move as if to draw a gun, and Aihlmeyer
lowed. pistol in hand and took a shot at Kill
meyer as he passed behind the bar. Kill
meyer was not harmed, and ran out OF the
gave Needham the slip and escaped further
pistol practice at the hands of the enraged
husband.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Freight classification Changes.

The Western classification committee, which
recently met in Chicago to revise the eight
classifcattons, made a number Of changes,
One of the most important was whisky, which
was formerly rated as third-class freight
Under the new rule it is second-class and thu
tariff is increased from 40 to 20 S PEP
hundred local shipments from Chicago ia
carload lots Small lots have been rated az
90 cents all along
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Lakeside Races.

CHICAGO, Nov. Weather fair; track
good Summary:
First race, five and one-half furongs-Lady
Juliet won: Herter second, Charabelle third
Time 1:1016.
Second race, one and one-sixteenth miles
Dr. Sheppard won, Topmast second, Lucid
third. Time 1:49.
Third race, five furlongs-Andes won. Gold
Fox second Fontainbeau third. Time .0Sm
Fourth race, one mile-Timemaker won. Al
fresco second, The Devil third. Time, 1928.
Fifth race, six furlongs-Canace won Cath
Sixth race one and one-eighth miles
Storm King won. Dare II. second, Catic BIRD
third Time, 1864
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
AQueduct Races.

NEW YORK Nov. 7-ResuIts:
First race, selling, one mile-Fleeting Gold
won, Bonnie Gem second, Ruby Lips third
Time, 1:45.
Second race, five and a half furlongs-
Compensation won, Top Gallant second
Specialist third. Time, 1:1O.
Third race, one mile and forty yards
Maurice won Dan Rice second, Swamp Angel
third. Time AS 2-5.
Fourth race, about seven furlongs-Hyle
won, Kirkwood second. Imitation third. Time,
:27 So.
Fifth race. selling, one mile and forty
yards-Frohman won, Nearest second, Mer-
lin third Time 1:46 S-5
Sixth race, about seven Administrations
won Brighton second, Judge Warden third
Time, 1:27.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
TO FOLLOW JOINT TRAFFIC..

Northwestern Trunk Line Commit
tee to Go Out of Business.
CHICAGO, Nov. THE Northwest
ern trunk line committee is about to
follow the example Of the joint Traffid
association and go out Of business. A
special meeting Of the executive Off
GERS Of the roads in the committee has
been called for next Thursday, and it
is generally admitted that they will
decide to dissolve the association. The
fact that the committee has failed 10
90 any real good in the way OF main
tanning rates is said to have had as
much effect ON the views of the execu-
tive officials as has the recent decision
OF the supreme court in the Joint Traf-
fic association matter.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
heavy OctOber Enrnines

The figures of earnings and expenses OF
the Northern Pacific for October, have moi
yet been issued, but the last was the most
remarkable month in the history Of the road.
and the expenses Of operation amounted I'd
about 81 per cent of the gross receipts.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
MACALEsTER SHUT OUT.
Presbyterians Could Not Score
Against the MethOdists.

Hamline university defeated Manchester yes
terday by score of 10 to 0. The game was
free from smuggling, But there was much
fumblng on both sides. Each team handed
the ball as if it was creased Judson and
Smith did good punting, several times kick
ing the bail out OF danger. The ball was
only once within Hamline's thirty-yard line
and was always in Macalester's territory.
james did good work in backing up inter-
ference Richardson was like stone wall
and continually broke up the guard back
plays. Parks and Brown did good work on
their ends, only letting their man get by once.
Drill showed good Improvement in following
his interferences
The game was called at $3.50 p. M. by
Referee O'Rourke. During the first half
Hamline scored touchdown, but Judson
missed an easy goal. There was other
scoring during the half In the second half,
on q blocked kicked. Hamline secured the
ball on Macalester's ten-yard line. Another
touchdown followed and another failure to
kick goal. Final score: Hamline 10, Mac
alester 0. The lineup was as follows:
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
GREAT NORTHERN PLANS.
Officers to Purchase st. Paul & Man
itoba Stock.

OHcers to Purchase st. Paul & Man
ftoba Stock.
NEW YORK, Nov. THE Great
Northern railroad company offers to
purchase the outstanding shares Of the
st. Paul, Minneapolis & Manitoba rail-
road company at the price of 125 PEI
cent, payable In stock of the Great
Northern railroad company at par. The
stock of the Great Northern railroad
company to be issued for this pur-
pose will be Of the same class as that
now outstanding, and will rank with
1T for dividends and in all other re.
spects. Delivery of the St. Paul, Min
neapolis & Manitoba Railroad com
pany's stock must he made to the Great
Northern Railway company between
Jan. l and 10, 1899, when payment will
be made therefor
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
FITz ON THE WAR PATH.
Big PugiIist Tried to- Whip n Hotel
Force.

ANDERSON, Ind. Nov. 7.-Fitzsimmons,
angered at adverse newspaper criticism of his
show, started to clean out the Hotel Doxey
dining room force yesterday. He entered
the dining room with his hat on and was
told by Head Waiter Yokum that he must
remove it. Fitz took exceptions to the die
tation of a colored man. Yokum was OBJ
durate and gave the champion the privilege
room. Fftz gave in. After Breakfast he
heard Yollum was boasting and made dive
for the stairs to clean out the whole force.
tanned him and hurried him off to his train.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
A Rich YeI1oM Tint

Will be the color of the Wisconsin Central
equipment at an early date. Everything
new. Two trains daily between tbe Twi55
Cities and Milwaukee, Chicago and ali points
South and East Cafe cars. dining cars and
Pullman drawing room cars are run by this
line Service strictly firstSclass CITY Ticket
ONCE. 973 Robert street. ST. Paul. MIN.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
TRAPPED HIM.
How Chicago Police Captured a
Much-Vyanted Man.

CHICAGO, Nov. Edgar v. Mo.
Conkey, a commission merchant who
was reported to have been kidnapped
by two men, claiming to be officers.
Is in the custody of the police He r.
charged with operating confidence
game. o. M. Fields, of Clio Mich. Is
the complainant. Officers had tried
several times unsuccessfully to arrest
McConkey at his residence and finally
by a telephone message induced him
to come to Milwaukee and Western
avenues, where he was promptly taken
into custody. McConkey will be given
a hearing tomorrow.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Admiral SchIey Relieved.

WASHINGTON, Nov. Admiral schley
has cabled the navy department that Capt
Snow has arrived at San Juan on the solace
and that he had relieved the admiral of the
command OF the naval station there yester-
day. The admiral announced that he would
start for the United States on the Newark,
his flagship.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Mrs. Carter Bankrupt.

NEW YORK, Nov. Mrs. Leslie Carter,
the actress. under the name of Caroline D.
Garter, filed a petition in bankruptcy today,
showing liabilities Of S63,77 and no assets,
except wearing apparel valued at 5000
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
what Cuba's Loss Means to Spain.

The loss of Cuba means to Spain the loss of
the very sustenance of the nation. Already
her tax-ridden people are crying for bread.
In the same way the loss of your once vigor-
Gus appetite means poverty and starvation to
your body. If any reader of this paper wish
es to be as hungry again as when a child,
and warts to fully enjoy hearty meals we
can recommend Hostetter's Stomach Bitters.
1t cures indigestion, dyspepsia and constipa-
ton.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
POLITICS HAVE THE CALL.
Railroad Men Have to Take a Back
Seat Temporarily.

Seat Temporarily.
General Freight Agent P. c. Stohr,
of the Chicago Great Western, yester,
day returned from a business trip tv
the East
81 don't know how business is in tina
East" said Mr.. Stohr to a reporter for
The G oh e. "All the business men
are talking politics and have NO tima
for business. The situation over there
1s mixed. New Workers expect that
state to go Democratic and even in
Pennsylvania things look queer for Re.
publicans. Railroad men have to take
a back seat all around in the East juse
now"
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
w. j. Lnirf I'm Town.

W. I. Laird, travelling freight agent Of thy
Chicago Great Western for the middle ar&
Western states, was in the city yesterday.
He reported business very good, particularly
In Ohio and Indiana.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Railway Notes.

General Advertising Agent Mead, Of thu
Chicago Great Western, who Is now in Europa
for his health, is expected to return to st.
Paul in about three weeks.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
NEWS OF RAILROADS
REPORT THAT r. ID. UNDERWOOD
IS TO GO WITH THE
ID. & o.
AS ITS GENERAL MANAGER
Possible That a Certain Northern
Pacific Official May Become Con-
nected With the Road in Which
Mr.. Hill Has Recently Acquired
Large Interest-F. e. Ward
Begins His Duties.

F. D. Underwood. general manager
of the 500 line, Is believed to have
accepted the appointment of general
manager Of the Baltimore & Ohio, a
position which it is said James J. Hill
has offered to him. He will succeed
W. M. Greene, who has been elected
vice president of the Baltimore & Ohio
Southwestern.
1t is believed that if Mr.. Underwood
goes to the Baltimore & Ohio he will
be succeeded on the 500 line by Cen
eral Manager Fitch, of the Duluth,
South Shore & Atlantic.
Rumor also connects the name of a
prominent Northern Pacific official
with the Baltimore & Ohio. It is
known THAT Mr.. Hill will have a large
share in the management of the road
after it passes into the hands Of his
syndicate and that he will secure the
best railroad talent in the United
States to run 1T, and there is good deal
of speculation among railroad men as
to where the lightning will strike.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
Jew Legation.

WASHINGTON, Nov. THE secretary of
state has been Informed that the Siamese gov
eminent Is about to re-establish its legation
in the United States. after a lapse of many
years.
The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1898-11-08
SPAIN HOLDING OFF.
Sagasta Has Not Appealed to Pow
ers in Philippine Dispute.

MADRID, Nov. 7. = The premier
Senior Sagasta, was questioned today
as to whether it was a fact that the
Spanish government had addressed a
note to the powers asking the latter
if they would support Spain in pro-
testing against the intentions of the
UNITED States toward the Philippine ISL
ands. He replied that such a note had
not yet been dispatched.
Members of the cabinet assert that
there will be three or four more sittinga
of the peace conference ct Paris.
The Bank of Spain has advanced to
the treasury 100000 pesetas for cur
rent expenses.
Emperor William is expected 30 visit
Cadtz on or about Nov 20.