The times., 1898-09-14
MR.. GODKIN'S VIEWS.
He Has Not Changed Them ms Far as
the Wur LIS Concerned,

He Has Not Changed Them ms Far as
the War LIS Concerned.
The following is the report of an inter
view said TO have taken place with E.
Lawrence Godkin, editor of the New York
Evening Post, on his return to this coun-
try. Saturday:
THE success of our war with Spain has
not changed my opinion of the war"
He stood at the foot of the stairs, al
most at the door to the dining room of
the Campania. Men, women, and chill
dren turned around him, walters, carry
ing plates dishes, and cups. stopped in
front of him, expecting that he would go
out of their way, and passed by when
they realized that he wouiG not bulge.
He was ignorant of all that turmoil.
There was no exterior world to him. He
stood straight in his brown Scotch tweed
suit, holding his hands a the height of
his chest, prepared for gestures of em-
phasis that the crowd blocked. His voice
was indistinct, as If his big white mus
tache and closely cropped beard hushed
1t. Some one asked:
What was your opinion OF the war;
Mr. Godkin was not offended by the
question. He did not even assume the
air of thinking that the man who asked it
was an ignorant person. He said:
THAT II was cruel and unnecessary.
| We fell upon the Spaniards and slaugh-
| tered them We won victories that every
one expected. We won without peril.
therefore without glory.
| Unnecessary. because the troubles in
| Cuba, the real troubles and the imagin-
ary ones. were in process Of vanishing
| In fact. we fought at the cry Of the un-
| just, who knew that soon we should have
no pretext at all for Intervention in Gu
ba''
.Oh Mr. Godkin. How cam ex-
claimed young woman, coming out OF
the dining-room.
And what is the result?" continued
Mr. Godkin. Truly. he had not heard the
exclamation. YOUR troops are deci-
mated by fever and starvation YOUR
army scandals are
OUR troops, Our army scandals, Mr.
Godkin. corrected his questioner
Yes, our troops are starved. our army
| scandals are the most disgraceful thai
| ever soiled the reputation of any people
in the eyes of the world. We nave dons
nothing but harm to ourselves"
1--WE have freed Cuba. taken Porte
Rico, captured the Ladrones, the Philip
| pines. everything that was in the way
of civilization. said young man.
you had no right began Mr. God
kin.
I'VE had no right corrected tn
young man.
I'VE had no right TO take Porto Rico
the Philippines or anything else" con
tinued Mr.. Godkin. Eve fought 10 max
Cuba Independent. We are bound to re
turn Porto Rico. the Ladrones, tn,
Philippines, and everything else that wa
not ours
I'VE have taken them for the good o
humanity SAID an cd man.
I'VE can't do good to humanity Mr.
Godkin replied. I'VE are not fit for that
Do you remember what happened afte
the war between The States? We ravaget
the South with the tyranny of scalawag
and carpet beggars. That is what vii
happen in Porto Rico and elsewhere
A young man observed. with some sar-
casm: Colonies Mr. Chamberlain sait
on Wednesday, elevate the national char
acter. We are not praiseworthy now
| we shall rise to the dignity that colonies
confer. Instead of dealing in petty pa
rochial politics. we shall discuss univer-
sal principles International politics will
take us out of the ordinary"
Mr.. Godsin sneered. He replied:
| I'VE cannot take care of the ordinary
and We are going to medGie with the ex-
| traordinary. We have mismanaged af
fairs in every city, In every town, in ev.
| cry village. and we going to take
part in the affairs of the world. How
ridiculous, Imagine Tammany Hall in tn
Philippines at a congress of nations
BAH!
Mr. Godkin's indignation recalled hin
to the fact that there were walters push
ing him, men, women, and children turn
ing around him. Lord Brassey looking a
him quantity, a Brahmin showing his
teeth, white as milk with a smile O.
amazed joy. Mr.. Godkin went up tn
| stairs to the deck
How did you find English public opin
ion?" he was asked.
He laughed aloud. English opinion il
| favorable to our going into colonial ex
pansion, of course he exclaimed. II
will help England amazingly She need
us. She does not care if we die by adm
) her
"YOU will have England applauding ev
. erything that YOU do, If YOU only ali
her,
I'VE will have-if We" corrected
young man.
Yes, we will have England fatterini
US if we consent only to do the duty of
watchman for her in the Philippines an
elsewhere" Mr.. Godkin said
DO you think that we will do that 70
her. Mr.. Godkin?"
NO he replied. 1.-The more they tai
about an Anglo-American alliance tn
less likely to happen it is.
ssTha tyaad DpopIe In ENGLAND want I
because they know the value of it
| England But the Democrats here wi
not have it. Debates about it in Cor
| gress will be heart-breaking.
. America and England are friendl
now. But let those debates in Congress
a | happen and America and England wi
be enemies more bitter than ever
Mr. Godkin's mustache and beard hi
| the expression of his mouth. One coul
/ not know If he were smiling. His eye
f | seemed to be absolutely sincere. Th
prabu,iau showed his white teeth