The Manitowoc pilot. [volume] (Manitowoc, Wis.) 1859-1932, 1898-05-19


! school Of this city and the Ryan nigh school of
Appleton took place at the Opera House last Fri
day evening and the home champions won the
laures of victory. 1t adds to the glory of victory
to acknowledge that the victory not easily
bought for the visitors pnt up able arguments
and presented them with the force of absolute
conviction. The debate never Jagged in interest
and showed that thorough and systematic prep
aratlon hHd been made by the constestants. Tue
sequence of argument was nicely taken and
followed by each speaker without repetition.
There was not much doubt rs to what the decl-
sion of tho judges would be for the points scored
by the local debaters were clearer and more
sonable. They presented practical side of the
issue against theoretical presentation by the
| affirmative. The debate paTtook more of the
nature of debating contest than the with
She boygan last year; more stress being put on
argument and less on delivery. Manitowoc
scored thirty-one more points in argument, ten
more in composition and three less In delivery.
winning by total of thirty-eight pOintS. Crit
cIsm cad be made on the debate as whole in
the lack of cited autf orlty. debate which
produces well known authorities with their find
ings Will always be more effective than one
which relies on the speakers unsupported state
ments The judges were Rev John NJ, FavIlie
of Appleton, Mr. James G.. Kerwin of Neenah
al Mr. L, J Nash of this city.
The debate was upon the following propose,
ton. Resolved that the United Safes should
have exclus We right to own and operate all
manu- featuring industries and transportation
companies. 1t being onceded that the change
cond easily be effected. Appleton holding the
viii B. Daniels opened for the affirmative. He
mental socially, morally economically and po-
! litically. 4 had divided mankind into the rich
and the poor. We have political equality and
industrial IL equality. The present system, he
commended, V-1s wrong econOmisaly as financial
crises and busine4s stagnation arises because the
productive forces are not posted on our con-
sumptive ability and there being no common
control they injure each other. Over production
produces crises resulting in losses to employer
and employee: Stn kes, always unsuccessful,
would be eliminated under the system supported
| as would private monOpolies and competition.
The present system was detrimental politically
as the trusts exert energy and spend vast sums
| of money TO corrupt Il gislation. 1t is wrong
morally, as great wealth and poverty are both
conductive to crime.
Richard Roemer opened for the negative and
raised the point that II lend was not soclahzed
with the other productive Instruments, men
| could hold land aud dictate to the government
| the prices of raw materials The speaker defined
socialism given by economic writer's and con
! tended that the system proposed was socialism.
| Profits. rent and interest reward and incentive
| to action, all which have built our material in
terests are to be swept away for the mysterious
power called government. Human nature Will
| not be changed and the avariciousness of the
| people can be seen IN their dishonest practices
| IN relation to pensions. Socialism would have
like effect as 1t makes just estimate of merit.
Industrial society is undergoing a chan &c and the
| plan proposed Is periodic resurrection always
! accompanying an industrial change.
! Sam Ullman further supported the affirmative.
He CT aimed that under the system there
would be no unnecessary display IN advertising.
| Consolidation OF many concerns would take
| place saving cost In prod uctlon. There would
be no adulteratlon. Useless and harmful
articles wouid not be manufactured. Govern
meut ownership of distlileries in Norway reduc
| ed the cunsumutiOn of liquor fifty per cent.
Prices would be reduced, wages raised. and the
working day shortened, giving the work. ngm man
time to cultivate mental ability. Child labor
would be abolished He further contended that
our telegraph service was ineffective. By mil
age discrimination was made against the poor,
Foreign telegraph rates are fifty per cent. less
than ours. Under the system proposed we
would have cooperation in place of competitions
| employment in place of charity
! Mort DelaLo ably supported the negative:
He spoke first of the magnitude of the govern
ment undertaking and argued that the govern
ment could not effectively control SO vast an
undertaking. No chance would be offered men
to secure service where they specially
adapted 10 work. The question involves des-
potism of government interference. 1t leaves
out the powerful motive of Intelligent self-In-
terest. which built ne up intellectually and ma
terially. Men of natural ability become public
leaders but under the system proposed their
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