The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1898-02-22
CURRENT SPORTING TALK.
HAHLoN AND VON DER BoRSr slY
THEY WILL STOP ROWD HIgM.

me rRsltinsere nail Ciub Fails unto Line vita
the Bsakue nersrmers who Vyant 20 Ahsi.
Gel, kiektsr-Capt. Jsyce Declares That ma
witt Play first EBass TOT the view Ysrhu.
Tho National League baseball rcformers who
are going to try to stop all kicking against UNI
pires' decisions this and In future years, will be
particularly pleased to learn through THE Sun
that they will receive the unqualified support of
the baltimore Club Mt tho meeting at 81. Louis
next week. During the agitation that has been
going on all winter against rowdyism on the
diamond, the attitude Of the Baltimore Club
has not been well defined and the public has
been partially convinced that Mcssrs. Won der
Horst and Hnnlon would advocate kicking to
nome extent at the coming conclave. Hanlon's
objections to Harris reform rules. providing for
an umpire who shall receive power enough TO
suspend kicking rowdies for q week at n time
has created the impression that the Baltimore
manager did not want TO have his team serious
ly interfcred with In their hitherto unsports-
,manlike efforts to win games. Messrs. Won der
Horst and Hanlon were in the city yesterday
and only too anxious to have THE Sun set them
right before the thousands Of sport.lovins en-
thnsiasts, who:want TO SEQ tough mugism sup.
pressed. Hanlon did not dodge behind any frail
arguments whom the question was put to him:
DO you favor kicking against decisions. and
n not will you go to the st. Louis meeting pro.
pared to aid the majority Of club owners who
are apparently sincere In their efforts to stamp
out the evili' r
81 have been before the public as both player
and manager" said Hanlon. 'for q long time
and think my reputation for fair play has
been pretty we'll sustained. When I was cap
tain Of tho Detroits l never resorted to rowdy.
Ism, and in those days, for that matter, there
wasn't any kicking at all to speak of. because
the old League clubs wouldn't tolerate 1t. As
manager Of the Baltimore team I have been
criticised a good deal because my players have
kicked and INDUCED In hoodlumism to some
degree. But II 10 q fact that I have opposed
the methods of my mon and have repeatedly
asked them to desist. Their argument always
was on these occasions that all other teams in
the League were winning games by rowdy ball
playing and that they would not stop kicking
unless We wanted them 70 tumble down and
lose. Asa result III admit that 1 winked ct the
evil because the players were headstrong and
determined to win. 1t 10 . fact that we made
them pay ell Of their fnes themselves, and Mr..
Won der Horst repeatedly called them down DO.
cause Of their tactics, for he has always been
egainst rowdyism In its mildest form. The
q q difficult matter for us to inaugurate re-
forms, and as nobody seemed inclined to mako
wow that thero is " genuine si fiSStp on in the
League to atop kicking and rowdyism, however,
Z CUB aS very EFT Elfd Win e say q u e. behalf 4Sa L. q L tns }s9 msse;1s
ready and wiling e aid i Bru 81. f GSrs % and tSe
others In their eommendsble efforts to purify
ers from kicking and behaving in an unruIy
manner. -
way things haye been going on than I, and tho
nsltim so Club can be counted as one Of the
s cs,Sl%' asrd aSR 70 n Suib SIs on tn tSis N SuaSsien d e sDp.
Danger; I have always boon . friend Of UNI.
one Of the. Judges Of play - fheer e0 Is no os douss
iSs Ba ifS Issf GiSS.% SHfy ~ n as Ihi fas ei as sng ot dna
club SSH. to make The game re from features that
word. the League must Be- brought S%nian up with 4 q q
notify ~, tho 9th ether Io megnass. nat "a tho Bal.imores
Topping siSs 81 he Ssn ssd S. dad a. and nc g gea VII sET lnd
dlea a.'s Hsrs sn q p cSisas sSo Sss d L TsaT , sS %a =.
with him. in o eysrsthins &c sI umpsre one sn Item. asf Hs
s md. Reach zach Of philssd,s!pni., 9. q majority on the
have awe p SSm@tts To sa, Dsa1sT . s sans r an UMPIRE pl : shall
q 90 as . penalty Tor fragrant iisfins or using using
vile language. As the minority member Of this
/ Believe { that p SUCH a rule { T WoSid s sinO.i too
much power to an umpire for reasons that I viii
Some umpires'a are hot.headed. and also q bit
grievances ::and might exercise such arbitrary
might pc faulty. and thasnnjastIy suspend a
particularly hot. headed player who might not
belief that tho suspensions should be- or.
aered not By the umpires themselves. but by q
II he could be placed SO that he could act. either
of whom, after carefully weighing evidence
s'iDIhIfitHd % by umplrss, could bar players from
esiecs in the shape of . rule. ri wager my salary
would: be "a fairer way to consider evidence
md then Suspeen id he H Tor a long Sn period, fe tSnn 70
rule them out OF the game for one, two or three
offences. Tiers is no intention 'U ON mug
ing stopped. and IN guarantee TO stop several Of
hon Of form. and It's N! s0 BELIEF t1aty il SSss,
must DO any spspensions, tho Leagues Presf
absolute authority to do so. instead of umpires,
Who are liable 70 make mistakes on the spur OF
L vogue think iherei ] be less Trouble than
rot together reform win surely come.
II. r. Won der Horst, the owner. Of the Balti.
noro Club, who was with Hanlon. said that he
Presidentmanager would go there with full
:. II am against k%!eking,% said Won der Horst.
.ral members of the Baltimore team last season
or rowdyis and they modified their behavior, I
IN a hrm believer IN clean sport and fair play, and
y the other.I .eague:olubs mean business in their
TO establish baseball in which there ia
40 kicking and wrangling, the baltimore Club
VIII help them In every way possible. The Balti-
pres have q reputation for being kickers, but
here are other teams Just as bad, if,not worse.
rhere Is such a thing AS senseless kicking which
employed.by Incompetent ball players to cover
up their own weak points. That has been al.
owed to increase until the evil Is no longer
1t must be stopped and the rowdy ring
esnn %%mst;bs sat upon: The abolition of tho
against kicking"
Hanlon and Won der Horst had a long con.
Ab ~ the afternoon about League matters. They
you'd not say who they favored for the National
but .HanlOn said no wished IL to be
he Ii not a candidate.
Capt. ,"Scrappy" Joyce OF the Now Yorks was
baseball headQuarters yesterday, where he
oported for duty and will remain until the play.
re.go TO Lakewood next month. He is LOOKING
yell and says he has definitely decided to play
irst base, Is II sun outlined last week, He
ices. not know what will be done with NH
As far as the team Is concerned. joyce
'elieves that, the New Works have been strength.
nod and VIII finish one, two. or three. He says
he men will get into fine shape at Lakewood and
VII get q fast start when the gong rings.
James IL. Sullivan. Sacretarv oftha A TT