The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1897-11-12
ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
CONFLICTING OPINIONS ON THE
HARVLRD- HkLE GAME.
Critics slso UP the Crimson In n way That
Does Net Agree with Wales 1dens-How .
IEarvard Victory viii ne Appreciated by
C,nch Rorbeo-A niR IntsrpchoInntic Gnne,

Critics BiHo Up the Crimson In = way That
does Net Agree with Wallets 1dens-How .
uarvard Victory viii ne Appreciated ~
Ceach Perbes-A MIG Hnterschoinstic Gnne.
Boston critics have boon carefully sizing up
tho Harvard and Yale teams until they hnvo
reached several conclusions. One is that Har.
ward has a better rush line, especially at tho
ends. Cabot and Moulton are regarded az 100
Der cent faster than Hall and HaZen, the Yale
ends, and that means a great deal to the Grim
BON. Swain and Donald, the tackles, are
thought to DO superior to Rodgers and Cham.
berlin Of Yale. Bouv6, Harvard's left guard. 10
rated as about half as strong again as Brown OF
Yale, but Haskell or Boal is not classed as any
better than Marshall. Sale's left guard. Dou-
cotte, at centre, Is pronounced the equal Of Cad
walader In every particular. Tho Boston critics
admit that Harvard's backs arc no better than
Yale's, and that tho Crimson has nobody to
compete with McBride In kicking.
Yale coachers believe that Hall and Hazcn
will como pretty close to the standard set by
Cabot and Moulton at the ends. They are also
confident that Rodgers and Chamberlin viii
equal II not outplay Swain and Donald at the
tackles. They agree that Bouve is dangerous,
but are confident that Brown can handle him.
Marshall will be u surprise, they claim, no mat
ter who plays right guard for Harvard. As far
a. Douoette Is concerned. the Yale mentors be-
Moye Cadwaladcr will have practically n "cako
walk" Concerning tho backs, they feel conf
dent that Yalc's quartet will prove faster than
Harvard's, and that McBride's kicking will
como pretty near carrying the day. THE SUN
has already stated that impartial critics have
considered Harvard's line the superior of Yale's
at the ends and guards, about oven up ut the
sackles and inferior at centre. Also that the
backs Of tho limo Of tho olcvens are about equal.
and that Yale has a better quarter back and full
back.
Both teams expect to win, tho Yale mon OK.
pressing increasing faith In themselves as the
time for lining UP draws near. In coaching the
New Haven eleven has prohted.by advice re-
ceived from experts who, collectively, rather
outclass Harvard's coachers in q thorough
knowledge of football. The game, therefore,
resolves itself into n contest which will bring
out football science and physical training, and
on such o basis there is no reason to change the
opinion that It will not be an easy matter for
either eleven to win. Several experts were dis
cussinR the probable scoro yesterday and near
1y all agreed that the winner would not make
16 points and that the loser would not be
"whitewashed." Ono mat wanted to wager l
to I that Harvard would not score moro than
half as many points as Yale. He found a taker.
Even money on tho result still prevails.
A Harvard victory will bc a special triumph
Cor Cameron Forbes, the head coach. 1t was
In the nature of a big surprise when Capt. Ca
bot announced carly in tho rail- that Forbes
had been selected to manage the affairs of the
would make. o splendid coach, for he was q
thinker and knew the game thoroughly. He
of his freshman team and other class teams,
and: Cabot believed 1t was n good experiment
70 lot him handle varsity material Tor at
Tho fact that Forbes had not been able to
make the varsity eleven when he was in col
cess as n football player, caused no end Of com.
ment, especially among local Harvard men, 1t
rough shod over such expert coachers as DR..
Brooks. Bert Waters, Bob Emmons, and De-
land IN making the appointment and that these
individuals were Disguised. Later word came
know his business and was not playing favor
several weeks ago to the effect that Forbes has
done good work and is an excellent coach
that time 70 this Harvard men every where are
anxious for Forbes's success. Whether the
dGu not, q he vbfs as fns are ssti to be enjoyed % end by Forbes 9ss
the first time in a dozen years the Harvard
eleven can depend upon its best players to go
not to see Haryards stars ilimping on crutches
along the side lines tomorrow.
and Pennsylvania to meet. The tt
g do not play, but the 0uakers viii tackle
" NblCy II IL luCy COulu uhNe pabCutu uU Il6lT |
differences early in the season, they might now
hbays been on the eve or = remarkable football
taken, it is sesera mR understo sSi't that tie leading diee
alumn!!, Of the two universities are getting to-
gether' in order to talk things over for next
year. AS rar as the players themselves are con-
this fall. but tho objection raised BY the Prince
ton Faculty Athletic Committee was a barrier
too difficult to surmount. a meeting between
these wonderful elevens this year would have
attracted an Immense crowd, no matter where
tl0 game might have been nlayel- |
There may be an interscholastio football
attract widespread attention. The English
High School OF Boston, which will probably
T SitR. the n on school t eha ,nopt 1Sh p series in that
the English High school has already written a
letter to the President of the New York Inter. |
game for : silver cup; 4 letter from Head
sdvcsatedf.' II the proposed sISa game game T is a ssrEnS,S
day before before T TSanE EsEHF as 'a aSd af Berk tes sa oyai
IS the place.
The Chicago A. A. eleven, which will play |
Point After to-morrow's game the Western
at Chicago on Thanksgiving Day with the New
Jersey A., @; eleven, The Jerseymen will do
under the care of Jim Robinson. the ex. Prince.
ton trainer. On next Tuesday the New Jersey
SieNen anu substitutes VIII leave Tor the baltic
field, being, due ut Chicago on Wednesday
morning; They will be royalty entertained by
the Western men.
A reader of THE Sun writes to know what |
are the colors Of the Carlisle Indians. as he
wishes to wear them at the Polo Grounds to- |
morrow. The Indians believe that red and
gold make a beautiful combination, and this
year they are wearing stockings of this color. |
They do not carry a band of supporters with
them to wave. red and gold flags, but il the
many many local football enthqsiasts who admire
encourage them. they can do so by wearing
badges or waving flags OF red and gold. Browns
colors are white and brown, and there will bo
them.
CAMBRIDGE, Nov. 11.-The final hard practice
81 the varsity, eleven and substitutes has ended.
Inc team Will take a little light exercise to-
morrow and probably rehearse all OF the
signals. The team, is in prime condition, and
Liant has greatly pleased the coachers. 1t has
Ing. The defensive work has been very nearly
perfect. and In secret practice the second eleven
has found tho Harvard line impregnable. Less
fpmbling and less inclination to gel of side have
characterized the practice OF the last few days.
4 more confident feeling has been noticed dur.