The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-01-26

If 1T GOES THERE AT ALL.
Assembly Committee Recommends u
Change for the Grand Avenue
Line From That Proposed.

nue. cars out of the Broadway loop and
running them on Sibley, Third and
Robert streets was discussed by the
assembly committee on streets last
evening A number of the jobbers were
also present, and the proposed plan of
using Sibley street between Fifth and
and Third streets as a part of the route
was knocked on the head All the rep
resentatives of the jobbing houses pres
ent opposed the idea of any tracks on
Sibley street and convinced the commit
tee that the plan would hurt the whole
sale trade.
Oliver Crosby said the Grand avenue
line should be run. to suit the patrons
of the line. They did not want the
cars run so as to bother the wholesale
people or any one else. The Broadway
loop would make all the cars run
around that street. The patrons Of the
line were all opposed to this route. It
would be q great inconvenience to have
the Grand avenue line go around the
Broadway loop. The proposed loop by
the way Of Sibley and Third street
might not be the best one, but some
thing should be done to take the Grand
avenue cars out of the Broadway loop.
Mr.. Schurmeier said he didn't think
there was any opposition to running
the Interurban cars around the Broad
way loop If there was objection to
cars on other lines going around, that
was another matter. He was opposed
to any street car tracks on Sibley
street.
George r Finch said he was in favor
of the Grand avenue people having all
their rights, but the laying of tracks
on Sibley street would interfere with
the wholesale trade. The tracks on
Sibley street would prevent his firm
and other jobbers from shipping and
receiving goods, and would be a great
detriment- to business.
Paul Gotham said the same objection
would be made to using Wacouta street
as Sibley street.
E. S. Chittenden repeated the argu-
ment made at the last meeting Of the
committee and said the only desire Of
the Commercial club, which he repre-
scented, was to furnish street car con-
nection to the union depot. The large
retail interests and convenience to the
public were, he thought, more weighty
than the protests of the wholesale men
in the matter of draying.
Assemblyman Kirke said the ordi
nance was drawn up Ky a joint COM
mittee from the Commercial club,
chamber of commerce and city council
The Grand avenue people want the
line taken out of the Broadway loop.
| AsSemblyman Thompson thought his
belt line scheme had best be outlined
at this point in the discussion and ac-
cOIdingly again discussed.
MI Reardon said for the past two
years the wholesale men had done
nothing but howl for depot connec-
tons and to have the cars run nearer
the depot. He ventured the opinion
that a single track on Sibley street
would not interfere with the ship
ping or receiving Of goods by the
wholesale dealers.
Claiming Sea,bury thought the job
bers were as fully alive to the public
interests as any other class. The QueS-
ton of a line on Sibley and Third
streets had never been brought before
the jobbers union. He was present
as one Of the merchants 20 object to a
line on Sibley street. Nearly all the
houses in that part of the city used
Sibley street and there was no chance
to run cars on the street without in
juring the trade. He was in favor of
line to the depot, but didn't want it
to run on Sibley street. He suggested
short line on Sibley street from the
depot to Third, On Third to Jackson
and on jackson to Eighth street. The
proposed line would not be an expen-
sive one and would connect with all
lines in the city. Three Or four cars
would he all that was needed to do
the business on the line he suggested.
Mr.. Seabury threw cold blanket on
Mr.. Thompacn's belt line scheme by
| saying they opposed any line on SibIey
Or Waccuta5 streets.
0. P. Skinner agreed with Mr.. Sea
bury and said a line on Sib1ey street
would be of great detriment to the
JCbblng interests, rs the street was
used almost entirely by the j0hbers
who used it to reach the freight lepots
Mr.. thompson made another talk
about his belt line scheme and then
Mr.. Dix moved that the Grand avenue
ordinance be reported back with the
recommendation that it be not adopt-
ed.
Mr.. Craig and Mr.. Reardon opposed
the killing CT the ordinance by voting
fer Mr.. Dixs motion. Mr.. DAILY haf
the motion to report unfavorabIy with
drawn and then amended the ordinance
so as to take the Grand avenue cars
down Robert to Third, On Third TO
Broadway, on Broadway to Seventh, on
SeN enth the same as now run. Mr.
klrke and Mr.. Craig objected to the
seventh street part Of the amendment
on the ground tnat it would make those
desiring to take the Grand avenue cars
walk TO Seventh street or ride around
BrcadWay. Beth gentlemen wanted
Fifth street used fer the return tri~
1nitea1 of Seventh street The amend
mert was agreed to by a vote Of 4 To
Me@srs, Thompson, Albrecht, raly ard
Dix voting for the change and Rear
d3n and Craig against it. The o1di-
nance as an@naed will come 40 for
passage at the next meeting Of the
aSsennniy, out there seems 70 he seine
doubt as to its passage. Mr. Grail
and Mr. Kirke both stated last cvenino
that the ordinance as amended w.;
not What the Grand avenue pec.,4e
wanted and would not pass the assem-
bly,.
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