The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1897-02-14


of the senate committee on foreign re-
lations this morning made it apparent
no agreement could be reached on the
general treaty of arbitration with
Great Britain that would bring the
contending factions, either in commit
tee or in the senate, together.
! While Mr.. Sherman was not told so
in exact words, the inference to be
drawn from what Mr. Morgan, Mr.
Daniel and Mr.. Cameron said, was that
under no circumstances could this
treaty be ratified at the present ses-
sion of the senate. 1t is believed that
with the executive session of this af-
ternoon Mr.. Sherman will cease to
press the consideration of the conven-
ton and permit other business to have
the right of way.
After one hour and a half spent in
discussion the committee this morning
framed an amendment along the lines
indicated in the dispatches of the
United Associated Presses. 1t is baseds
upon the amendment OF which Mr..
Morgan gave notice, and puts into Ian
guage the Interpretation placed upon
the convention by Mr.. Turpie. 1t pro-
videS that all subjects to be submit
ted to arbitration under this general
treaty must be submitted after the
manner and in the form provided for
the submission and ratification of the
treaties originally. This removes the
objections aimed at the treaty by MIR.
Morgan and others, to the effect that
the submission of all subjects to arbi-
tration under the treaty as row wordei
would be left entirely to the president.
If it is amended as suggested by the
committees action of this morning,
to by the full treaty-making power of
the United States, the president and the
senate acting jointly can be submit
ted to arbitration.
AS TO MEANING.
The power to negotiate and conclude
treaties in Great Britain is lodged en-
tirely in the crown and is exercised for
the crown by the premier. There has /
heen no suggestion that the British |
treaty making power has been changed I
by the terms of this treaty, and Mr.. /
Turpie's contention was that in like /
manner the full treaty making power l.
of the United States was to sit in .
judgment upon all subjects that were
sought to be taken before this high I
tribunal of arbitration. The senate did /
not agree with Mr. Turpie in his in
depreciation. but found the easiest way
to a possible solution of the problem
confronting it in giving expression to
the Interpretation in the text of the
With such an amend
ment the treaty is safeguarded abso-
lutely, and the friends of the instru-
ment say there should not be a dis
senting vote.
The action of the committee in
adopting the amendment did not bring
about harmony. On the contrary, the
more the whole subject was discussed
the more evident it BECAME that the
differences We're irreconcilable.
MessrS. Morgan, Daniel, Mills and
Cameron refused to consider the treaty
in a favorable light, even after they
had voted for the amendment They
opposed the convention on general
grounds and said it was impossible for
hem to believe that the country would
De benefited by its ratification at the
present time, at least. They refused to
listen to the pleadings of Mr.. Sherman
Ind mis- associates and declined to even
admit that the amendment had ac-
what had been sought.
The committee adjourned with the
majority feeling anything but comfort /
Tile over the outlook.
Early in the session Senator Chand-
er offered an amendment TO the con-
Tention in the shape of an additional
-rticle which is, in fact, a declaratiori
t states that both the contracting par
les, in making this treaty, do it for the !
purpose of enCnciating belief in the
principles of international arbitration
nd TO bring about if possible the pol
cy of a general disarmament among
he nations. It is further declared thar
ach of the contracting parties express
heir Willingness and intention of max
ng similar trea ties with other nations,
including not only these that are
trong and able to defend themselves
nd who have large military establish
lents, but also with the smaller fami-
es OF the nations with whom differ
noes similar to those covered by this
reaty, might arise.
ELLER FAvORs POSTPONEMENT.
Mr.. Teller of Colorado was one of the
rst speakers. He advocated the post
onement of the considera ton of the
-eaty until after the 4th OF March, =
hen the senate would be in extra ses- &
on with ample time to look into the o
lstrument- Many senators, pressed I.
18th other business of the senate, had V
cen unable to study the treaty as il
ley should do before casting their T
)te. and he believed the best interests +
the country would be conserved by I.
lis reasonable delay.
The debate of the afternoon revolved
bout a question of proper interpreta-
e in its new amendment which pro- T,
des that all matters for arbitra- -
on shall first be submitted to the y,
nate for its approval" What was c,
cant by the word approval was the 7
lestion generally asked, and to which z
satisfactory answer appeared to n
I've been given. There was also a 81
ide difference of opinion among the S[
nators as to whether under this Y
nendment, such approval would have :,
be given by two-thirds vote or G,
majority only. Some contended ~
at inasmuch as the whole congress L,
d to appropriate the money to meet N
e expenses of the arbitration, the y
ngress might have voice in the set y;
.ment of the matters to be submit =
J. n \
Mr.. Cafferty. who today for the first a
ne. discussed the treaty, came out h;
-ongly for it and advocated it's speedy W ",
tification. '"
Mr. Chandler made the point that if
e amendment meant what the COM
ttee said that it required the usual
te of the senate to dispose of the Sc
estion-then the provision of the q
nding treaty could only be carried H