Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1897-11-10

mouth.
Attorney Weller showed Mrs. Mack
four photographs of Guldensuppe which
she identified. He asked: why do you
make this statement"
Mrs Mack replied: 81 don't awnt to
have 1t on my mind"
Then she began to cry. She tossed
about the witness chair and sobbed for
some time. Her emotion affected
nearly every one in the court room.
1t was some moments before she re
sumed her testimony, and she said;
Il make this statement of my free Will.
| want to get 1t of my conscience.
No promise of mercy has been made
me. | wanted to clear my mind.
don't care what hangs over me or
what they do with me-"
Mr.. Howe began his cross-eXamina-
ton in very inslnuating way and
soon made Mrs. Mack acknowledge
that the house in Woodside was rented
for the sole purpose Of killing Gulden-
suppe there: that she decoyed him
there; that she bought the oil cloth
and other wrappings for the purpose
of packing up the portions of his
body after Thorn would have finished
his murderous task.
Adroitly and cleverly the lawyer
made the woman own I'M to the most
damning and cold-blooded prepara-
lions FOR getting rid OF her lover,
And did you cry then?' asked the
cross-examiner.
mo"
did you cry when you hired the
house ?"
mo"
The lawyer continued this line Of In
qulry leading up to the moment Of the
murder getting the same stolid mo"
for an answer each time.
And now, may I ask. did you cry
when Thorn told You he had shot your
N.Vn ".
counsel.
Mrs. Nncks eyes filed with tears and
she replied: YES. ! did cry then, 1
could not help it."
what did you do when you first
came to this country? What was your
occupation"
Midwife" was the response.
How many children did you kill.
Mrs. Mack" was the next question.
81 never killed one to my knowledge,
and ] can prove II by doctors" an
swered the woman with emphasis.
Several other questions In this vein
followed. to all of which the witness
replied with positive deni7ls.
Mr.. Howe retired from the court
room for few minutes during which
time Lawyer Moss and the prisoner
held an earnest consultation.
Thorn seemed deeply Interested and
whispered to his counsel with his lips
Mrs. Mack. in reply to Mr.. Howe ac-
knowledged that while In the county
jail she wrote a letter to Thorn.
did YOU not begin that letter with
the words MY dear boy?"
The witness would not say whether
these We're the words or not
you said today that you were never
intimate with Thorn; that you only
loved him because he threatened you
and because he was II gentleman. Now
this letter was written three months
after the murder and you loved him
still when you used these words in the
letter"
The witness nodded an assent.
Mrs Nack's letter to Thorn, written
in the Queens county prison, In which
she addressed him as Dear Martin"
and Dear Child" and suggested that
they end their lives was translated
She acknowledged that she wrote the
letter, but insisted that she had never
loved him and pretended that she did
so only because she was afraid of him
Il did everything / could to satisfy
| Thorn" says Mrs. Mack. 81 gave him
every cent of money | had"
why was 1t that you were afraid Of
| THORN"
Thorn had a syringe, and said he
would put something In 1t that would
destroy my eyesight and that of Gull
| densuppe."
WAS 1t fear OF this syringe that
made you buy oil cloth before the man
was dead. and the same fear after he
was dead, which made you burn his
| clothing"
yes"
Mr.. Howe continued his cross-exam-
| nation step by step till he had led the
witness to repeat her whole story MS
| given in her confession. It did not differ
| materially from that brought out in
tho birart examination.
How many children have you
| killed." asked Mr.. Howe.
Not one. that ] know Of"
"How many stlll-born infants In
bottles have you in your house?"
81 have two.
In reply to another question Mrs.
Mack said: 81 never gave money or
offered money to anyone to kill my
| husband. ] never said To-"
Mrs. Mack said that she never used
| Instruments In her profession as
| midwife, and that when she had
| case where Instruments were to be
used she always called In doctor.
Mr.. Howe changed his tactics after
| this. and turning suddenly shouted at
| the top of his voice: Mrs. Mack, was
| ii not you who shot Guldensuppe?
The woman was startled, but re-
| gained herself in n moment and half
| shrleked: mo. did not"
was It not you who cut up the
body?" was the next question
She frantically yelled back a defiant
mo"
Mr.. Howe asked further permission
! of the court to reserve further cross
| examination OF the witness, which was
| granted. .,,,. a.,
redirect examination, which was CON
| Quoted with the aid of an Interpreter
"Did Thorn tell you he used ammonia
to get the blood out OF the hoor!
| asked Mr.. Weller. .,
Mrs. Mack said he did but that she
| did not help him. .,. t.,
she answered all questions In
buslness-like way and did not seem
much affected. a recess OF an hour
was taken at 1880 o'clock.
Thorn was then handcuned TO cap
| tain MetheVen and led out on the siu.
| door, while Mrs. Mack remained ssnteu
| until the court room was cleared. Iheh
she was conducted through the slde
| passage from the court room anu thh.n
into the district attorneys private
office.
T,manuel Friend counsel for Mrs.
| Nal in renlv to Mr.. Howc's STRIFE
trres on the confession OF Mrs. Mack
| said, ~ know from pretty good nu-
tbnritv that Thorn was anxious 10
| avnil himself OF the opportunity MIS-
! Nnclx has used. and II was sprint PC
tween us / have come under the wire
arst When the heat Of the trial Is
nver know Mr.. Howe VIII say 10
me. Mamie. you're all right, He's
| little Bit excited now, but VIII come