Omaha daily bee., 1897-11-30

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body. Then we carried Il to the bnthtub. /
went out and bought some plaster OF
paris. When came back she be-
gan cutting up the body. She cut
the head of with knife When she
reached the back Of the neck she cut through
that portion with a small saw. Then she
cut through the middle Of the body and when
! asked her why she cut 60 she replied: I
know enough oo5 to cut through the bowels.
Next day she cut of the legs after which
she went out for awhile as 1t was very warm
in there. On her return we encased the head
in the plaster of paris.
THREW HEAD IN THE RIVER.
I'VE brought away the dead mans clothes
In bundle and j carried the head in anothc-,
bundle. The saw. knife and revolver were in
the bundle with the clothes. We took the
car to the Ninety-second street ferry. over
which we crossed to New York threw the
head overheard while the boat was crossing
the river Then we went to Mrs Nack's
house on Ninth avenue where she burned
/ the clothes in the cooking stove"
The witness then told Of the surrey ride
on the following day Saturday, June &c. and
! the disposition OF the other portions of the
remains, which were wrapped up in oil cloth
cheesecoth and paper, which Mrs Mack had
purchased prior to her visit to the cottage on
June 25 the day Of the killing. Thorn told
| OF his meetings with the woman after this
and how Mrs Mack made preparations to 70
to Europe. Mrs. Mack met him on Tuesday
night, June So and the following day he
/ learned from the papers that she had been
arrested He explained his conversation with
Gotha. He said he had told Gotha that Mrs
Mack killed Guldensuppe and also told the
barber how the body was cut up and disposed
of. He told Gotha of his intention to give
himself up to the police, but Gotha asked him
to wait He gave Gotha some pawu tickets
and made an appointment to meet him the
following night Thorn kept his appointment
and was arrested. During his conversations
with Captain OBrien Thorn said he told the
detective some truths and some falsehoods.
During the time he was giving this direct
testimony Thorn looked directly at the jury
He spoke clearly and distinctly, although at
times his voice drorped TO a rather low tone
He used very good English, with only a
slight trace Of a German accent. His direct
examination lasted three quarters of an hour
Surrogate Weller conducted the cross-exam-
| ination.
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the cottage on the day OF the murder. not
differing materially from the accounts hith-
| erto printed. except that he admitted having
lied to Captain O'Brien as to his whereabouts
on the day Of the killing with view to es-
tablishing an alibi. He said he helped Mrs
| Mack undress Guldensnppe but heard no
groan or anything that would lead him to
! believe that he was alive while being cut up.
Mr.. Weller in several ways tried to get
the prisoner to write his name on q sheet
Of paper Mr.. Howe objected and was sus-
tained by Justice Madden. - -
HE GAVE FALSE NAME.
AS to the getting OF the keys of the cot
tage Thorn was closely questioned. He said
there were five or six keys altogether but
1t was not shown whether there were more
than one for the street door. Thorn gave
false name and business to the proprietor
Of the cottage because Mrs. Mack did not
want any one to know he was living with
her. Later he said Mrs. Mack accompanied
him TO the cottage the day he paid the rent.
Thorn said Mrs Mack gave him the gold
watch and chain the day after the killing.
II had belonged to Guldensuppe. Thorn
could not say how Mrs, Mack got the oil
cloth and other stuff TO the cottage when
she only got the keys from him on the night
| Of June "a. She must have brought them
with her when she brought Guldensuppe to
the cottage that morning, June 25
He never bought any cheese cloth and
did not tell Gotha that he did. Mrs. Mack
left the cottage about o'clock and came
back an hour later. They then took two of
the parcels with them. Thorn then again
acknowledged that he had lied TO Captain
O'Brien when he said he was playing
pinochle at Thirty-sixth street and Eleventh
avenue on the day of the killing. He said
that for the purpose Of establishing an alibi.
He said it as much to save the woman as
himself
On further cross-examination he said the
most money he ever received from Mrs
Mack at once was SIS which he paid for
rent of the cottage at Woodsde. After
leaving Mrs. Mack he spent his days in New
Jersey, and only came TO New York al
night.
NEVER HAD A sTILLETTO.
He knew Constantine Keene and worked
with him for five weeks, but never showed
him a stiIletto. He never had stilletto.
or dagger, Keene showed him a stilletto
but witness never tried to buy it from him
Keene
Thorn was asked regarding q letter which
was taken from him by Sheriff Doht Thorn
had tried TO destroy the letter, but the Of
ficers rescued it, In II he asked Mrs. Mack
TO testify ar he told her, and he would send
some wurd before the trial
Then you were assisting in framing the
defense?" asked Mr.. Weller.
Yes, certainly" was Thorn reply.
And you were doing all you could TO
cover up the crime"
Yes did all could" said Thorn.
Thorn said the reason he told Gotha that
Mrs. Mack committed the murder was be-
cause he thought he could trust him as
friend, This finished the eross-examina-
tion
Mr.. Howe began his redirect cross-exami-
nation by showing Thorn q telegram pur-
ported TO ne sent by Guldensuppe TO Mrs.
Mack It was written in German, and trans
lated ii read:
please go to where ! have worked and
tell them ! viii not return as ! am going
travelling. letter viii follow.
WILLIAM GULDENsUPPE.
Thorn said he wrote II at the request of