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The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1897-10-22

According to the Boston Journal Geo.
Fred Williams is in bad way. He daily
continues his perigrination and his ver-
balization. He is fast becoming the nom
pareil long-distance talker of the state.
He knows much that is not worth the
knowing. and he forgets that talk is
cheap. 1t was ever thus.
The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1897-10-22

Bishop McLaren in an interview at
Chicago ridiculed the suggestion of a
union between the American Episcopal
church and the British church under the
Archbishop of Canterbury; and declared
that the American church ought to and
will remain free. 1t is bard to keep down
the spirit of 70
The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1897-10-22
Boys Double Breasted
KNEE PANT SUITS.

Ages to 16 years, in handsome Scotch
effects, cheviots, worsteds. We are sell
ling one line of Boys Suits, extra pants
and cap to match, at $3.50 for the en-
tire combination.
The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1897-10-22
THE PRESS.
FRIDAY, OCTOBER %.

The gold reserve has now risen to about
$3.50, 100000. This shows just how conf
dence in the honesty of the government
is getting in it's work.
The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1897-10-22

Rich and poor alike suffer the tortures
that come with that terrible plague,
Itching Piles; rich and poor alike find
instant relief and permanent cure in
Doan' Sentiment. Your dealer keeps it.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
a VISTA OF FASHION.
LEADING FEATURES or GOWNS PRES
\ EMIT AND PROSPECTIVE.
Forecast Of Spring styles-Summer Fab.
cs--Cotton Shirt Waists Again -Bols-
ros. Tucks and BraidinE- Newest Dress
Skirts Dresses Worn BY Debutantes,

rics--COttOn Shirt Waists Again--Bole.
ros. 'rucks and BraldinE Newest Dress
Skirts Dresses Worn BY Debutantes.
Among other. forecasts Of fashion is
the one concerning the curious mode Of
making the backs and fronts Of dresses
Of different materials and contrasting
eolcrs. For instance, black satin has
the hack Of the bodice draped with pink
satin matching the two center breadths
at the back. This fashion will hardly
prove popular, for it is full Of ,las ger to
any one who attempts it without per-
feet appreciation Of the value Of color.
Prospective fashions almost certain to
l,d favor are shirt waists in cotton
fabrics, boleros Of lace and ribbon, tucks
in muslin gowns, sashes and braiding.
Dress skirts have to. he fitted more
carefully. than ever. They stand out full
at the back and are Of reasonable length,
us yet, though it is rumored that longer
skirts are creeping in. The'newest skirts
arc not SO full at the sides and front.
Some Of the latest skirts are made to
sand out at the back by means of f1exi-
bic stcels placed at the hems Indeed,
wire and steel have many unaccustomed
r@rs low. Not only are most of the up
Standing collars wired and great deal
Ct .il'a lace AID many Of the bows, but
son,c of the silk hclcro Jackets also y
God and SILVER threads play promi-
rent part III ncst Of the embrOideries OF
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
. GROWN JEWELS.

King Hulnlc.t OF Italy Is TIC most heay-
afy insured nan In T.l,r:'jIc. Ihcu cunt
Of life insurance he carries Is O'cr W oOu,-
900. The Llte Czar, "A lexantlcr Ill, was in
cured for $4,000, 900.
Following tho example of his cousin,
Duke Karl of Bavaria Prince Ludwig Fer
f1inand has begun to practice rs u physi-
clan. and has Office hours every day hi the
hospital of the Rcd Cross in Munich.
Althourh the Princess Louise has been
doing comparatively little sculpt'Ircst work
during tho past few months, she intends
undertaking another statue OF the queen,
which, it is expected, will he finished ny
the summer. Vs. r ~
Maria pia, the Portuguese queen dow
ager, wears tho gold medal OF Lisbon
humane society. 1t was granted her Tor
jumping into the TnIslls after Alfonso
when he was a little fellow. The queen Is
q very plain but very interesting woman.
He Took tho Hint.
Not long ago.u good joke was played on
a Young n edical man in a town in Scot.
land, which had the effect of recalling linn
to the fact that the healing Of the sick
should be his first care. For. a time the
mcdico fairly divided his time and .atten-
ton between his lady love, and his pa
tie1lts. ''
Lattcrly, however, the patients have felt
themselves neglected, the lady love, who
lives in tho neighborhood, monopolizing
the doctors attentions, and when n call
WIS made ut the surgery the young man
WIS generally to be found at the home of
his inalDorlta.
So in the dead .of night some waggish
folk removed the name plato from the sur:
gerry door and screwed it on to the front
gate of the lady!'s residence.
1t is not said whether the doctor re1ished
the little joke, hut there is u marked i'm
proyemcnt in his attendance to patients
siuoe the occurrence. -ScOttish Nights.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
LONG PARLOR REMODELED.


to by clever tradesmen who desire ia
lengthen or broaden their shops and
their show windows. Such expedients
are constantly met with. and although,
some may call them subterfuges they
are a perfectly legitimate decorative
scheme. 81 ~
Where there is q long, tunnel-like
parlor to be apparently shortened, the
ceiling and walls may be paneled, or we
may use heavy beams resting on pilas-
tiers, thus making divisions that will
seemingly give greater width, especially
if we make three divisions, the central
one being the largest. This effect is also
obtained by pure surface decoration,
either fat or in relief. The room, how
ever, may with advantage be actually
divided by screens and columns. The
inner room may be used as music
room or q tearoom. and much comfort
and seclusion will be found to result
from some such arrangement. In sec.
ond illustration the authority here
quoted shows columns and special treat
ment of cornice breaking across the CELL
ing Of parlor. Seats are provided
which relieve the formal appearance
which columns alone are apt to give.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

-Four years ago this time the
Democ :ats were telling us how
the incoming administration
would overthrow the "robber tar.
ifff'' and make the American
propl, u present Of ''the markets OF
the world" Holy Moses but that
has a far away sound now! Think
VIVA: oceans Of panic, poverty and
deficit rola,.between us and those
latter days of february, 1893!
-Superior.Leader.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
CURTAIN faAIsERs.

Mrs. John T. Raymond intends soon to
act again. /a-~.i T..
Marie Dressler has contracted to appear
soon in vaudeville.
John L. Sullivan is recruit for the va
riety stage. He is to head q burlesque
company. ID
Lila Vane, who retired from the stage
into matrinony, will soon return to the
footlights. ~! .sT
=. The Cherry sisters, gawky but thrifty
women, are about to act in Uncle Tom 8
+ Cabin = on 3 western tour. ~ .sa
Sarxlou's ''Mme Sans Gene has been
put into an English musical version, and
Lillian Russell may use it. 81.
The next annual "review' Is being writ
ten for the New York Casino by Hugh
Morton and Gustave Kerkcr.
LA Folote' has been turned into Eng.
lish by Cheever Goodwin for production ut
the New York Casino next month. ..-
Marshall p. Wilder, the nonologue hui
morist, thinks of becoming an actor in u
farce to be written for that purpose.
\ Oscar Hammerstein is getting ready a
travesty of the Bradley Martin b;sll under
the name of "Mrs. Radley Barton s Ball. "
An effort is being made to get up a
matinee in New York for the benefit OF q
young daughter Of the late Henry E. Alb
hey. =, - - 49, s-'
The Victorian era exhibition to be held
in London next summer will have one Sec
ton devoted to pictures books and other
objects illustrative of dramatic achieve
ments in England.
Julia Marlowe added Taber to her pro-
fessional name upon becoming Mrs. Tabcr.
She was sued for damages by a Philadcl-
phia manager, but he lost his case. Mrs
Taber has now dropped the Taber for stage
purposes. -.<';,.~ 80. .,t.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
A WEDDING DRESS.


the day, and the gold tinsel galloon has
been adapted to belts about l 4 inches
wide, generally clasped in the front
with a buckle Of some sort. Jeweled
buttons Of all sorts are preferred, paste
heading the list, and these are rendered
all the more satisfactory because now
the patterns are interthreaded with col
+ored velvet to match the tone of the
gown. Bright colors figure in nearly all
the dIessy bodices
Era:tling, especially black, figures on
the cloth and canvas dresses. Fur in
narrow strips finds its way on much Of
the lace employed Ito trim evening
gowns. White lace, by the way, Dame
fashion considers quite en- reggie for
trimming fur toques. Favorite laces are
brussels or honiton.
+ The oversAirt has returned, although
as yet there are no double skirts, but q
skirt distinct from the one beneath it
except where it is sewed in at the waist.
1t is made in thin materials, black hav-
ing the preference, or for ball gowns
white, sometimes embroidered, some
times merely edged with a black ruche,
tho rewcGt starting from the knee with
q full gathered founce to the hem. The
most curious freak Of fashion is that the
skirts beneath are often checked or bro
caded 49,
/ White frocks and floral trimmings are
relegated to the debutante and other
youthful women. Satin remains q ia
vorite material for brides dresses and
lace the fashionable garniture. Neck
laces of pearls and diamonds are worn
by brides Considerable latitude is al
lowed in the matter of maid of honor,
bridesmaids, pages, etc. Occasionally
there will be q maid Of honor and no
bridesmaids. Sometimes the English
fashion Of train bearers is followed.
At q recent fashionable wedding the
bride wore an ivory satin gown. with
chiffon yoke. Yoke and waist were out
lined with pearl embroidery. Over the
shoulders was arranged a long founce Of
silk maltese lace, crossing in front and
falling in cascades down the front of
the skirt, where it was caught with
small punches Of orange blossom. This
bride wore wreath Of orange blossoms
and tulle veil. Her train was carried by
q little nephew and niece. The little
girl was dressed in ivory spotted benga-
line hanging quite full from q lace yoke,
with white felt hat trimmed with
white plumes. The page wore Louis
XIV suit Of ivory satin trimmed with sill
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
THE WRITER'S.

Mr.. Zangwill's opinion Of the modern
play is that it contains ''an ounce OF sin,
a pound OF sorrow and pint OF Chest
nuts. /" FL ...E.z.>
: Donald G. Mitchell, who is known to
the reading public as TX Marvel, author
Of the delightful "Reveries of u Bachelor"
and Dream Life spends his declining
years quietly at Edgewood, near New Ha-
ven. ~
+ A new biographer Of Ibsen says that the
dramatist spends an hour twice day at a
Christiania hotel reading the papers. On
his right hand he has glass of brandy
and on his left glass Of beer, and from
them he takes alternate sips as he reads.
In response to an invitation from Robert
Louis Stevenson. to visit him in Samoa,
Conan Doyle asked the great romancer
how one got there "Oh, !" said Steven
son, '.you 60 to America, cross the con-
tinent to San Francisco, and then it's the
second turning to the left" ~ q.
Professor Max Muller says that he re-
members the poet INLAND at Leipsic as a
little, old wrinkled man, who was very
shy and retiring. Once some students
marched to the poets house, Gang some Of
his songs and cheered him, and INLAND
came to the window, but he was too timid
to say word. Z Z stt.ss'4r
A French writer, Edouard Toulouse,
has examined Zola's mental peculiarities
and discovered u peculiar weakness of
memory. He could not recognize well
known citations from MOliere, Balza.
Hugo and George Sand, and in some cases
even failed to remember his own early
writings when passages from them were
read to him. =
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

It is now stated that Mr.. Cleve-
land will not take up the practi: e
OF law upon leaving tn presidents
chair, but will live in dignificd re-
titem.nt at his new home in
Princeton, New Jersey. He is
said to have remarked that he
would be satisfied with life if he
eau SIC his daughters educated and
happily married, and lives to com
plete his autobiography, which. n. b:
contemplates writing.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

They do things differently across the
water, as women who marry foreign
princes should bear in mind. The Bel
gian court has given to the Prince Of
Chimay divorce from his American
wife, who preferred the Hungarian mu-
sician to him. Chimay is notoriously
worse morally than his erring wife could
Be IL she tried herself, yet the Belgian
court DEGREES that the princess shall pay
Tho old roue 914, 900 : year alimony.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

Ally -f.ts' E&M: an ~ Il ct"Ait1-
cional law taxing the express and tcle-
graph companies having lines within its
borders The supreme court of the
United States, after considering tl'e
question thoroughly, arrived at this de-
cisiOn.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
Fashion Echoes.


TIE flower muff, as q substitute for
the bridesmaids bouquet, is pretty
feature at some Of the recent weddings
Collars formed Of graduated rows of
pearls and held in shape by diamond
slides ale In great request for evening
wear. a5 ~ .,.'
Military braid is employed for belts,
with gold clasp in rocco designs.
Elastic corsets are new invention
for reducing superfluous adipose tissue
and producing long, slim waist with
out any harmful results. 49,. 49,.
Eton jackets Of fur and cloth jackets
with wide fur revers complete the most
fashionable skating costumes.
Torchon and valenciennes patterns
combined are the new laces for trim
ming undergarments
Coral buttons are perhaps the latest
novelty and arc charming On . black
velvet gown.
Elephants hide and black monkey
Gkin are rspsssentsd in ths wy newest
los1n aootA 81
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

The grand opera season IL Ohl'
;caxo proved ! fat failure this yea',
because Of lick of pa, roIlage. Chi
cago DOESN'T want it said that 'h"t
city Is hacking in appreciation OF Of
grand opera ..nd ,the cause ls'at-
tIibnted toD,mocratic hard tim s.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

Japan has Adoptsd the gold
standard, and the free s'lyerltes
no logger point to that country as
an example Of free silver prosper
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

K New York banks now have more
idl, money than siict 1894
The United States is prepared to-
tile .xpension Of business that has
so long b. EN-. desired, and which
will comewith the new admins.
TRITON,
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS have been
laboring in Chicago suburbs since
last October, anda large number
converts as said to have been'made'
m.ny Of them young girls, who
will soon.b. taken to Salt Lake
Civ.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

B lglun, has adopted thetwenty-
four hour system Of time for rail-
WIS. post and Telegraph Offices;
follow 10 the x,mp'pE"f Italy.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

NAKtsOW HALL -,s.9st..$,
ing, the division in the rugs, and the
strong, horizontal cornice line placed
about two thirds of the way up from the
floor to the ceiling.
These divisions Of the surfaces are by
no means arbitrary and cannot be relied
upon for every apartment, since in each
case success will depend upon the gem
eral proportion of the spaces to be deco
rated. s tn Z.
The illustration shows that narrow
hallway or passage need not be space
to be hurried through because Of its ull-
attractiveness, but it may have charm
in itself as one of tho features of the
dwelling. ( few .rotsed plants will
help to soften the light already reduced
by the loaded glass windows, while the
GOODNESS that foliage always gives will
help to make pleasing entrance to any
apartment beyond. .s., u
Quite point is made Of the hori-;
eyes instantly follow such divisions, and
every one of them VIII oh tends to short
en- the length of the room will aid Us IN
our attempt to obtain coziness These
divisions, il they correspond with si-
lar ones on the ceiling and floor he
often sufficient with q plain, unbr62en
wall ,S s53s I. 2@44 ,S'8
A iudicious addition Of mirrors win.
assist greatly in carrying on the lin s
Of q room and make it seem twice its
real width or length. One frequently
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
One Exception.

II am wholly self made man," said
the gentleman with the mir of money to
tncinernte.
They who heard him laughed softly. 1t
was common report that the bald area on
the top of his head was The work OF hie
wife.-Cinclnnati Enquirer.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

ver braid. The bridesmaids wore dainty
gowns Of ivory, spotted bengaline the
bodioes fashioned with boleros OF silk.
with these dresses were worn huge
White hAts trimmed with white plumes.
The hgidegxoom's gifts 70 the brides
maids wero pearl swallow brooches and
hnnnuets az white lilaca, roses and car
nstifns AIIs1 YA1xux.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
THERE'S ONLY ONE
RHILROKD.

That OPERATES 1t. trains "n the fa-
. NOUS block system J*' =" zen the
s.. NV u cities. Milwaukee and
thir.gn: a.'
That lights its trains by electricity
p. ,hrnughuut;
That uses thee, ,tb"at ted elect ric bert,
reading limp; -.
That runs four sIlrntiidly equipped
: passenger tr,fins every ha! from,
st. Paul and Minneapolis
through th Chicago vim Mil.
nv wHukre;.' -.
And that r.'Hd is the 80
CHICAGO. MILWAUKEE 3
ST. Paul.
1t also or rates st+u,n-hpnted YES
p. tibuled trains. carrying the
latest private c'inpnrt .Hent cars.
library buffet smoking cars. and
palace drawing room sleelers.
Parlur cars, free reclining chair cHrs
and the very hest dining car
service. ..<N
For lowest ra tts to any point In the
United States, Canada ~ Mexico
apply to ticket agents Oraddress
-..f. ~" j. r. CONLEY,
Asst Gen1 Pass. Agt..
.~.'a.., +, st. Paul, Mimi.
NoTr- Elegantly pOuipped trains
from st Paul and minneapolis
through to Peoria, st. Louis and
Kansas City daily. e. !
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
P resideut-aleet and Mrs. Nc
iKlnley started. on their journey 70
Washington Monday night.

The Minneapolis Republican
Flunlbeau club will head the civic.
division Of the inaugural parade
on March 4.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

That was ridiculous law in Wiscon-
sin which sentenced inebriatesto Kelley
institutes and made the county in WHICH
they lived pay round sum for their ex-.
penses. No wonder the supreme COURT
of the state pronounced it unconstitu--
tional. Such . law simply put . largo
sum Of money into the hands Of the vend-
ers Of private and secret nostrum.
Do not talk Of your ailments q bad
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

S4me otjonr Popocrat1c friends
are very much v>xed with the
proposition OF G. A. Towne and
his free silver managers, to form
an organization for the purpose OF
holding the r, publican free sill
ssyvrites in line until this question
is settled, and then bring back
into the G. 90. P fold. They
argue that if he Is to be one of
them-for keeps. They will dis
cover later on that about all the
use Charley has for the Popocrats
is TO permite them to vote for him.
He boldly announces that he will
condescend to receive their trib.
ute of ballots once more in his
attempt to get back to congress:
Surely the Popocrats can desire
no higher honor than to PROSTATE
themselves before Charley, and
we are surprised that there should
be any kicking in the ranks.
journal Press. Il
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05

sG Tie statistics of the Salvation
A. my show that the open-air met
iLgs OH the street corners ard the
nightly religious services are but a
small part OF, tb e~work Of that or
ganization. Their SOCIAL work
is extending rapidly. This ill.,
cludc, homes for fallen women,
shelters for waits and strays, and
for the destitute, homes for *
colvicts, hospitals, nurseries,, etc
They have also been doing much
III finding work for the unem'
pIoy.d, and this work has grown
to such all extent that they will
establish a big employment bu'
reau. The:.wolk VI tracing lost
and missing people for their friends
is also very extensive.
Little Falls weekly transcript. (Little Falls, Morrison Co., Minn.) 1894-19??, 1897-03-05
tTHE NARROW HOUSE
HINTS 3NREMooELlNGT uNNEL-Llke
fa~ ROOMS. q is'ss
Directions For Overcoming Inherent D..
: Accts In Hall and rarlor How Hori-
sontal Division. In Narrpw s9aoe Tsa.l
q AnOarent Width and COziness. SsSs8l

Inherent defects in the various rooms tsf
q house The Art Amateur Illustrates a
hallway or passage that has the .Tcct 81
breadth, Notwithstanding the fart that
tits but s feet in width. This is obtain
ed by means of the broad panel over the
entrance, by the crossbeanls on the cell
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1897-11-11
BEST RACING OF THE MEET.
Two Fav0rftes and Two Second
Choices Won.

Two favorites ard two second choices
finished first yesterday at the fourth day
of the second fall meeting Of the Washing
ton Jockey Club, the other race going to
an outsider. The track showed little
Improvement, but was in far from good
condition, and SLOW and heavy. The at
tendance was much better, the speculation
being the heaviest Of the meeting. In the
fourth race Hairpin. finishing third, was
disqualified for fouling Merlin, and Isen
was placed third, although about every
body but Judge Mcdowell believed Isen
beaten by Pcntet Canet by length or
more. In that race Chargrace. ut 100 to
l, was beaten only a head, after getting
Off absolutely last. Alarum at 10 and Is
to L, was quietly TIPPED as certainty in
the last race. and fully justified expecta-
tons. The racing on the whole was by
far the best of the meeting.
First race, six and one-half furiongstSly
Fox, los (simms). 1 to and cut. won by
half a length; Aurum, % (O'Connor) 80 to
l and to l, second; Blue Devil, 121
(O'Leary). to and 1 to 4, third. Time,
124
The Manxman also ran.
Second race, seven ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
ITO Qrving), to 2 and to 10, won by q
length; Rinaldo. 10 (O'Leary), 3 to 1 and
even, second; Handrress, Ill Ooggett), Z
to 5 and 3 to s. third. Time, 1.32 I5. Bar
dello and Longacre also ran.
Third race, six furlongs-Albert S.. no Or.
Williamsl. to and to 5. won by half a
length; South Africa. 10 (simms). to 3
and to 2, second; Tappan, 1O2 (Hewitt),
to and to l. third. Time. LII Is.
Summer Sea, Dalgretti, His Own, Hurl,
Geo. H. ketcham, Mantle. Maud Adams,
Kaiser Ludwig and Venetia II also ran.
Fourth race. six furlongs-Hardly, 100
Or. Williams). to 5 and out, won by a
head; Chargrace. 102 (Hfrsch), 100 to L and
~ to !. second; Hairpin. IS (Songer), 30 to
and to l. third. Time. LII 3-5. Pontet
Cantet, Isen. Merlin, Plaintain, Checkers
and Lucid also ran. Hairpin finished third
place.
Filth race, one and one-sixteenth miles
Alarum, Ill OoggetD, II to 1 and to ],
won by head; King T., 116 HewitD, 20
1O6 (OConnor). 60 to 1 and 20 to /. third
Time. LOB. Ben Ronald, Abingdon, Mar
shall, James Monroe and Sue Kittie also