The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-11-18
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did Lawton have any conversation att 81,
with you the day before he died!
longer, and was going to kill himself: Said
he was an old man, and did not think they
did him justice reporting him for such tribes.
| Glennon would call him up there, and the
last time he came up there, one or two days
before he committed suicide, he said he
could not stand it any longer. Had few
hundred dollars there, and wanted to know
what ne could do with it, l told him did
not know The next morning he walked up
on the fifth gallery and jumped off
did you know John Reid in the PRISON.
| Eyes. SIR
Mr. PENNY think he is the same man
who we have some testimony of. Were you
there at the time the punishment was in
ficted on John Reid? 81 was there at the
! time he hurt
| Ibid Reid work under you?' NO, sir.
''You knew him?" Yes, sir.
What do you know about it? Did you see
Reid after he came out of the solitary
Yes. SIR
HOW REID WAS HURT.
what was his condition. He had the left
hand in a splint. l understand finger had
been broken, and he had one big spot on his
| head and a plaster; he had three, IN 1act,
one on the head here, and one here and one
on the side Gndicating)."
Notice any other wounds or bruises on
his persona" No, sir. Did not notice any
! other"
"Did any guard or officer of the prison tell
/ you VINO CldllIleu 10 nave NlluGSSSu INC pun
| ishment of Reid?' Yes, sir.
"By whom?" Joe Bachand.'
/ Still in the PRISON." Yes, sir"
Tell you he witnessed heard what was
| going on at the time Reid was punished!N
| ''Ee said he heard what was going on.
"Did this man Backland tell you whether
/ he saw Mr.. Lemon or not, Immediately after
/ Reid was punished and bruised?" Yes, sir: -
What condition did he say Lemon was IN
at that timer" He said he had occasion TO
step in Lemons office Immediately after this;
the man was hollering for mercy and for help,
and Lemon had his coat rolled up half way
up to the elbows, ard the cuffs were all blood
half way to the elbow.
did you know anything about Ed Smith?
/ Did you know him in the PRISON.? Yes,
! sir"
WAS he under you?" He was for about
I six months
DO you know anything about his being
/ injured there III any way?' He injured MN
self once"
How was that?" by striking his hand
on to knife that we used there
/ ANY other accident that befell him?' I
know of an occasion when he was loaded
down with sacks. Mr.. Ewing told me this. ;"
What did he tell you about Ed Smith,
! He said they were unloading twine sacks
| from the to the warehouse. Mr. Glennon
time he was unloading. Smith said he could
not carry whole bundle at one time"
! How much would a bundle weigh?" "One
hundred pounds or more. Smith said he could
not carry a whole sack at once and Glennon
| got a couple Of niggers to load a sack upon
his back.
do you know what became of him." "IIe
/ dropped down. He told ME some one took the
sacks off him and he got up, and Ewing said
| he wanted to see the warden
TORE UP THE SLIP.
Did he see the warden?" said he wrote
out an application for an audience to the
warden, gave it to Glennon and Glennon tore
! it w and went away"
Did he say he saw Glennon tear up this
application to go before the warden?" Yes,
! sir.
Are there any other statements you wish
/ to make regarding acts on the part of any
officer of the prison you have not already
WHO filled out this application" He did
not tell me-
DO guards have blank applications to see
| signs it himself. He keeps the stub and
sends it TO the warden by the assistant
deputy"
ON CROSS EXAMINATION.
BY Mr.. Nethaway-Now, Mr.. Forester,
! when did you say you saw this trouble be
/ tween Lemon and Kelly? 1t might have
That would be in 1S94?' Yes sir. 1
think it was 1898 or 1884
''Wcll, cannot you Tx some definite time
| about that within year,"
1t was the winter the fall Of 1894 l
/ think it was the fall of 1892" Was it in
August, or September, or OCTOBER" 1T vas
! later, think it was in October.
Was it colo at the time?" NO. Not very
colc.''
And that WIS the fall of 1892" 1884 I
think"
Are you reasonably certain about that?
| What would you say fall of 1894 1898? 20
Il think it the fall OF 1884,
And that is what you are willing, to
stand by, is it?" Il can tel the exact date
You say Kelly was an inoffensive man? ?"
| so far as l knew"
Did you ever report Mr.. Kelly for any
/ breach of the discipline of the PRISON.? Il
| think l reported him once for talking"
Did you ever, report him again." Not
| that l remember"
! Never reported him but once?" Don't
think 1 did,
How long was this before this thing oc-
CURED between Lemon and him." u think
! it afterwards -
How long did he work under you?"
about six months.
And who else cid he work under that you
know OFF, lie went into the shoe shop"
came a. in p" Ply Yes 'Dl sup "i'S" ne III .
Then he went to the shoe shop?' Yes.
See him after that?" Occasionally in
the cell house and dining room
You say that it was quite dark and you
stopped the machinery?'' Too dark to run
the machinery TO make Irvine in the shop"
The men were id e. walking by the ma
And Lemon came in and said to take the
men in to the shops?' Yes, sirS
What did YOU DO them, ~ blew the
whistle to take the men to the shop"
"What occurred them" Kelley hollered -
That all he dore?" "Hollered and threw
up his hands
| twenty feet"
was all the machinery stopped at that
time?" II don't know if ali of it was"
Was it absolutely quiet in the shop?"
! Yes, sir.
him to holler?'' YES. sir"
HAD you been praeticing him." "No,
Did you blow your whistle twice day
there?" Yes sir
at noon and at night" Yes, sir"
Ever speak to him about ito" eyes, sir -
Ever notify the deputy?" mo, sir. No
to enforce disciplined" Afterwards put him
up close to me so that he could see when
was going to blow the whistle
you knew that when you blew that whiS-
tie that he was going to jump and holler?"
Il did not know what he would do.
did you make an explanation to Lemon
at that timer" mo, sir. He took him out
| of the shop
You did not notify him prior to that time
that this man would do that?'' mo, sir
How many men did you have in the shop?''
"Twenty-eight, 7 think"
What was the first thing that Lemon did
after he had jumped up and hollered and
| threw up his hane3s?" He came down to me
and wanted to know who hollered. I told him
| Kelly and he went over and grabbed him.
did you tell him about the MANI" NO