The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-02-02
WHILE LOOKING UP A DEVICE
THAT CAN LIFT THE CARS TO THE
TOP OF THE HILL
SAFELY.
MARKHAM WANTED SOME ADVICE
And Then Gave the Meeting the.
Benefit of His Ideas ON the
Subject.


Seventh and Eleventh wards assem-
bled at the council chamber last even
ing. The meeting was called to give
Aid. Markham and Assemblyman
Kirke, Of the Seventh ward, advice as
to how to vote on the Shepard street
railway ordinance. The result OF the
session was that the matter will I'M
doUbtedly be laid over until after
March ], as a committee Of engineers
are to report on that date whether it
is possible to secure a device, which
Will take electric cars up the present
SeIby avenue hill with safety. The
meeting was an interesting one, and
greatly enjoyed by all who were for
tunate enough to be present. ]. ]. Nc
Cafferty and A. H. Lindeke partici..
pated In one-rOund wordy go. which
was spirited and pointed, if nothing
else. The meeting decided that a
change to an electric line was the cor
rect thing, but were not, at least the
Seventh warders were not, in favor Of
using Third street and Summit avenue
fol- a street car line
Aid. Markham said the meeting had
peen called by the representatives Of,
the ward in the council to secure light
on the wishes of the residents as to-
the action to be taken on the Shepard
ordinance now pending Gen. Bishop
was selected as chairman and AID.
shepard opened with a discussion or
explanation Of the ordinance. which
mas been published a number Of times
IN the past few months. A profile
showing the route to be taken by the
proposed line was used by Aid Shep-,,
ara TO explain the ordinance The
change in the line, Mr.. Shepard said.
was not a Merriam Park proposition
solely. 1t was for the benefit of all
persons who lived west of the Selbv
avenue line. After five years of waiting,
TOT increased facilities, the residents OF
MERRIAM Park felt as though they
were entitled to something,
A. II. Lindeke and Stanford Newell,
questioned whether the Merriam Park
people could not just as we'll take the
ihterurban cars and come to st. Paul.
instead Of going to MINNEAPOLIS.
Judge Mcdonald wanted to hear
some one who had some valid objection
against the proposed change. He had
Deen waiting for some time to express
himself and he wanted to go on rec
ord as saying that the cable line. "a
now run, was a disgrace to the civ
and company.
stamford Newell had nothing to saw
about the cable line. His objection
was mat the proposed line of tracks
would cut the throat Of the approach
10 the hill and the only one. Summit
park and the vicinity had been Widened
70 peautffy the city, and now the in
tentlon was to spoil the finest avenue IN
the CITY TO get an electric line Of street
cars. He thought 1t possible TO GET
d O0V1Co a hn
present hill 1t was unfortunate that
the nall was not tunneIed when the
line was built.
E. w. Peet said the cable might not
be satisfactory, but 1t was safer than
an electric line. 1t was neither right
or proper to put the property owners
10 the enormous expense. If the line
was was put IN as proposed all property on
summit and Dayton avenues and Third
street would be reduced in yal1Ie The
street around the park was the onIv
approach to the hill district and drjY
ing would be very dangerous on Third
street and Summit avenue. 1t was very
wrong to ask that so much property
should be lowered in value by taking
any part of Summit avenue for street
car purposes. A device could be Sc
cureu 10 carry cars up the hill and
some plan should be devised.
Z. q. Granville said it was a ones
ton of life and limb and not of prom
erty "a ~
A. w. Vernon thought the two curves
ON the proposed line would be moro
dangerous than the present Selby ave-
nue. hill His idea was that the line
snoutd run on Selby to Farringten to
Nelson, on Nelson to Summit and On
Summit to Rice street
J. j. McCafferty said he had hean
asked who he represented at the meet
ing. In reply he would say thet he rep
resented the two young men who had
called the meeting and wanted light on
now to vote on the proposition Tht.
strong point made by some Of the
property owners was that there was,
danger from driving on the street If the
proposed line was used. 1t was a uues-
ton of the most good to the greatest
number
Ed Rogers wanted to know what position
change. fNE0~
Aid. Shepard replied that Mr.. Goodrich v,oo
president Of the company seemed to be
pleased with the proposed change.
MI. Rogers thought the right thing would
be to find out what the street car cornnanv
wanted The council could not compel the
company to build on Third and Summit ave-
nue.. There was a time when the comnanv
was wiling to put in a device and they were
prevented by number of Summit avenue
people The present cable line was a dts
grace, and 1t appeared to him that a change
was necessary. The Merriam Park people
could be better accommodated by the Seihv
avenue line than any other
h. j. Hodgson said any route taken would
meet with objections from the property own
ers along the line.
E. Holbert wanted a device tried or tina
hill tunneled.
Mr.. Mcdonald said the same Summit ave-
nue. people kicked when the railway company
wanted to put in a device years ago.
A. H. Idndeke thought the n noYId
make the company make better connections
at Milton street.
but didn't want Summit avenue spoiled with
tracks. He would be willing as one Of the
taxpayers, to divide the expense Of
a tunnel with the company
]. A. Wheelock said the tunnel schema vvaa
not feasible A change to an electric line
was needed. device could and should be
1t was not used now because it
was an expense the company did NOT want m
go to. He had been informed the ccn1panv
would not go by the way OF Third and Sum
NIT avenue. Before Summit avenue was de-
stroyed an effort should be made to secure a
device.
Mr.. Rogers wanted to know why the coun-
Gil did not make the street car company pave
Fourth street.
Aid Markham said the company had agreed
at the time the asphalt was put en- Fourth
street to pave between their tracks but asked
for delay until the line was turned into an
electric line. Mr. Goodrich had told him at the
time the company had device which was all
right. He thought if a line of cars should be
ordered put on either Dale or Victoria and
the company directed to operate such line to
Merriam Park it would have the effect of
bringing out the device.
Chairman Bishop wanted division Of the
question, and the proposition to have the
change made from a cable to an electric line
was put and carried unanimously.
On the second proposition to go up Third
street and Summit avenue, Mr.. Wheelock
an inquiry by board of engineers
as to getting device which would take the