The times., 1897-05-20

instance, that there WAS war Ia Greece
Mr. Foraker-How do you know that?
Mr.. EIkins-Why, it is in the air Great
laughter.l
Mr. Chandler-And SO is this; very mach
So daughter and applause9
Mr.. Foraker proceeded to say that the
recognition OF the belligerents means that
he would no longer be regarded as traitor
on land and as a pirate at sea Byrecngni-
ton we would have the power to say that
a man fighting for lib srty shall be regarded
as man and soldier. We will plant
the Cuban republic on higher plane: we
will take it's war from under municipal law
and place 1t underinternationallaw. Again,
we would act as neutral, and prevent
schemes set on foot in this country hostile
To Cuba 1t is time we ceased to police ur
coastin theinterestofS Spain. We shonid1o
longer be ID quasi co partner with Spain n
this bruta! andatrocioas war. tApplalSe
Mr.. Hoar desired to point out the dis
tinction between Mr Foraker and hin-
self He believed that the Senate should
have the facts on which TO base action
All we had was part OF letter flon
Secretary Olney, and a sentence fIom the
reply thereto by the Spanish minister
That is not the way 10 Transact foreign
affairs Mr.. Hear advised mediation lock-
ing to intervention. He referred TO the
Morgan resolution as mouse, with brass
band accompaniment He thought that
Spain probably had right TO refuse to
listen to a proposition of this Govern
ment, during the Cleveland administration,
to suggest laws for Cuba when she was
endeavorng to subdue the island What
was true e year ago might not be the
now, and mediation might be practicable
now. lie argued that belligerency would
be regarded as a hostile act.
He said that the insurgents warfare
was not one of fighting, but of applying
the torch and starvation. Is that, or
is it not "a violation of the rights of
war; and II that is so, as indicated by
Mr.. 0lney, ought not the insurgents be
punished? They say that they will burn
houses over the heads Of women and
children, burn plantations, and the crops
for years to come. 1t is such a war that
Spain is trying to put down. He did
not know whether it would not be law
full for Spain to put to death even Ameri-
can citizens engaged in such war The
whole argument on the other side is
that the interests of the United States
are involved Well, il is also to the in
terest of this Government that We shall
not subInit to the right of search. 1t
was argued that all this searching would
be done very politely. Grant said that
search would result in war.
Mr. Foraker challenged Mr.. Hoar to
state where Grant had made that state
ment
Mr.. Hoar could not specify the time
or place, but went on TO say that the
hardship was not only the right TO
search but to seize our vessels and
take them into Spanish ports. Was
that fair substitute for the present
conditions?
Nj. Hawiey remarked that although Spain
and England recognized the Southern CON
federacy, we had no consequent war with
Spain or England
Mr. Hoar replied as to the failure of Spain
to pay in IDENTITIES we should remember that
England refused at first to pay the Ala
bama claims, but eventually paid them.
Spain, too, could be made TO pay
Mr. Mason wantedtj know If we acknowl-
edged belligerency whether we could stop
the shooting of prisoners.
Mr.. Hoar said that 50 far as the rights
of American citizenship were eeoncemedthey
We're already settled. They were protected
now And that's the opinion of the an
cient barnacle.''
Mr.. Mason--I an not disputingit.
Mr. Morgan wanted to know where the
information came from that American
citizens taken in the war now would not
be shot
MI Hoar said it was by agreement be-
tween Spain and the United States
Mr Morgan did not know that TO he
fact
This closed the debate, the Senate ad-
journing at 610 p m. until today, Mr..
Thurston giving notice that he would
speak at p. IN.