The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-11-28
SAYS MRS. MACK DID 1T.
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STATEMENT or THE CASE.
p.r,.rc. lie WIN Tell All When Put ON
the stand--Ho May Force Mrs. Naos 70
Again Tell Her story


Eng Will tell the true and compic'e So
OF tho crime for which am NO" Ds
,soA for NV life Ny lawyer has ao' ~,
me N conceal nothing, and Win 'i0
Of God / will not NTH vices
Martin Thorn Is just man It'll the
and yirtues Ike any other anu IN as
iowa of life Just as strong Will, ..nned he
In any OF those who say ne ''. ..oroan-
800 and trusted and shielded ne, 49,
he uSas I'm the very shadow or the eieS ,..a'.
chair. loved her until she s"oio 49,
his existance 10 save her own, -,
herself from the consequences y, 49,. a.
ict.~the killing Of the man wno ,odss
said she feared-because OF ms h"o"'eOes
Of other crimes. .ooo,onlish.
I'd the murder OF william u"ius"S"PPN'
THE KILLING.
"yyhen GOT 10 the Woodsde cottage
that Saturday morning, she met me d
the door and said: Il have got Ouloeh-
xuppe upstairs. lie is dead
dshe had shot him in the face and stab
bed him In the breast, she said 4 was
not even in the house at the time, but IN
the doorway and she was out OF sight OF
the people at the time, half way upstairs
] knew nothing Of her purpose that day.
She had asked me TO como TO Woodside.
] went there and when arrived she told
me that she had killed Guldensuppe ana
that all her trouble was over.
For long time hardly knew what 10
30. Mrs. Mack asked me TO help her cut
the body up. l 'hesitated, but could not
make up my mind.
." You have got 20 help me get rid Of
It, she said or both of us will get into
trouble. All you have got TO do Is TO help.
AT last l helped her TO cary the body
10 the bath tub. IL was very heavy.
Guldensuppe was dead. He was not
breathing when we put him In the bath
tub. Mrs. Mack did the cutting while
held the the body. .
she mentioned al the time that IL was
n good thing she knew something about
surgery or else II would be impossible 10
get rid Of the body properly. Before she
cut the body up the clothes were taken
on Afterward the body was rolled up
in the oil cloth and cloth that Mrs. Mack
bought at Mrs Rigors. Then we talked
over the plans 10 get rid OF the body
She arranged for the surry drive and the
throwing away OF the pieces. She gave
me the money 20 hire the surry.
"She gave me the money TO hire the
Woodside cottage where she said she
was 10 start a baby farm. After she
threw the head into the river and dis
posed of pieces OF the body, as the papers
have stated, she took Guldensuppe's
clothes and burned them in a stove.
LOVE FOR MRS. MACK.
at was nothing but my love for Mrs.
Mack that got me into all this trouble.
] helped her get rid of the dead body
10 shield her and 10 save her from being
arrested
Everybody has lied about me in this
case principally because have not talk
cd or explained.
'"rhey say I told Gotha that I killed
Guldensuppe. II Is lie. told him
that Mrs. Mack killed him. They say
] offered to confess TO Captain O'Brien
so / could get free. That is another
lie. I told Captain O'Brien something
Of n private nature that did not con-
Germ the case intimately. I give him
permission to speak now. He will clear
me- They say too. that l threatened
10 murder William Guldensuppe. yes;
said would kill him before he killed
me. He almost killed me and threaten
Cd my life every time he mentioned my
name 10 Mrs. Mack. Augusta told me so
and told me 10 look out and have pistol
.to shoot him. but not 10 do IL I'm her
house. She would get into trouble she
said. thought she told me that because
she loved me- now know she feared Gull
densuppe and wanted to have me kill
him so she would not suffer.
Mrs. Mack told the Jury that com
United the murder I'm just the way she
actually did II herself. She turned every
thing around. She reversed the whole
story, accusing me Of just what she did.
'She Is afraid to go on the stand. Her
lawyers will not let her go on and testify
against me because they know that l
can prove her liar. Can prove that she
herself killed Guldensuppe. because we
knew Of other crimes she had committed.
and because she was afraid that Gulden-
suppe would kill her for having had any,
thing to do with me.
II can ask that woman questions that
abe cannot answer without showing con-
ciuslvely that she has sworn 10 lies, and
what is more I have witnesses TO cor
roborate me.
(sIgneO MARTIN THORN"
NEARING THE END.
There Is every probability that the case
Of Thorn will go TO the Jury not later
than Wednesday next and possibly Tues
day night. William +. Howe. Thorn's at
torney. has promised 10 finish his side
OF the case on Monday. Thorn will testi-
~ in his own behalf. and accuse Mrs.
Mack OF killing Guldensuppe. Other wit
nesses for the defence will probably be
Mrs. Zeigler OF West Farms, Of whom II is
alleged Mrs. Mack. with Guldensuppe.
wanted TO hire a house. the negotiations
failing because tho house did not have
sewer.
II is n question whether Mack viii be al
lowed 10 testify against his wife. when
she Is put on trial for her life
" Is understood that after the defence
closes Mrs. Mack will he called by the
prosecution I'm rebuttal TO reeeat her con-
fession and accuse Thorn OF the murder
District Attorney Youngs did not want
10 put Mrs. Mack on the stand again,
because she made an unfavorable impress
sion on the jury at tho first trial. as she
related the details of the horrible crime. II
Mrs. Mack is called again as a witness for
the state, It will be because District At
torney Youngs is compelled 10 take this
course TO Offset the statements OF Thorn
when he charges her with the killing
Mr.. Youngs says the reason he closed
the case for the State without calling
Mrs. Mack, was because IN his opinion
the people had presented a case strong
enough TO convict Thorn without the wo-
mans confession.
District ATTORNEY Olcott. OF New York,
concurs with Mr.. Youngs in his opinion.
when Thorn's fate has been decided
Mrs Nack's case will come UP. II Is gen.
orally supposed that she will be allowed
20 plead guilty either 20 murder in the
second degree. or manslaughter i'm the
first degree. For murder in the second
degree she would receive a sentence OF
Imprisonment for life and for manslaugh-
ter In the first degree. the extreme pen
atty is twenty years.
"unspeakablv Sad"