The Saint Paul globe., 1897-08-19
ARE OPPOSED TO MAKING A PRESENT
Out of an Entire Avenue.
Hamllne Citizens Protest
Against the Scheme to An
mex Them to Minneapolis at
This Particular Time.

one business man had told him IL tho
uLuIhance was passed, the second dav
sne cars were operated there would
80 ~ tracks 10 run on. Mr.. Frye had
solu MIN that Mr.. Lowry had said -
rev months ago there would he a nro
oeet ny the company against the on
Siatlng Oh cars around the Broadwav
loop. He did not believe the rai1u,ay
company should be used as a tool IN
t!I,n IIlo assets what was now a lia
DIIlty on the hands of certain nersonc
lie mad heard that there was deaI of
Ieal , estate speculation behind the or
ulnance. The local cars under the ordt-
nance, ne said, would be Just as moor
as TO service as possible in order to
n,IaIa' niiaAe the I5-cent cars patronized. He
suggested that there should he no haste
and that the citizens be given a. chance
10 be heard, either through the nress
or In mass meeting
WOULD NEED FOUR TRACKS
L. ID. O'Brien thought the objections
OF Mr. Butler were unansWerab1e
Wltnout considerable danger. If would
IN m ms opinion, be impossible to run the
through trains at any high rate of
sp speeu. Inc only way this could be
gone without danger would be 10 nut
rour tracks on the avenue west of Dale
street. and this would practicable
destroy the property on the avenue.
me value Of property on Broadway.
II the ordinance was passed, would in
crease IN value and the property on
tne present loop would be depreciated
Large amounts of money had been
spent In improving property on Robert
street. On the ground that the lines
would not be changed Manufacturer
Bros, were forced to move from Third
ana Minnesota streets owing to the
diversion of trade. This. however was
the council was simply changing the
center of trade and damaging property
FOR nothing. The people wanted a
union depot loop and also a device to
take the cars up the Selby avenue hill.
Neither of these objects were attained
oy the ordinance. The company might,
under the ordinance haul the cars UP
the hill
BY A KITE STRING,
and Fourth street was as near the de-
pot as the cars would run. There was
no advantage for the people by the or
dlnance except that transfers would
be granted to and from all lines and
that the property below Robert street
would be benefited, and if this was
SO the Robert street property would
certainly be deprecated.
Aid Kenny inquired if Mr. O'Brien
talked as property owner or as an
attorney. for a salary. In reply Mr..
0 Brien said he represented people who
owned twenty-five times as much
property as the Third ward alderman
did
Jared How said the time had been
Sc short since the ordinance was in
troduced that he had not had time to
consult the property owners He ap-
peared as an attorney for property
owners on University avenue. He was
advised that the ordinance was put
in it's present form by the company
because it was largely an experiment.
whether the through express line would
pay. After the experiment had been
tried II 1t was not a success then the
company could allow the poles, wires,
cut-offs, side tracks and switches to
remain for a period of twenty years.
QUESTION OF LAW IN 1T.
The fee of the street was in the
abutting property owners subject to the
right of the public to use it for ordin-
ary street purposes. Without time to
investigate the books his impression
OF the law was that the council had
no right to subject the street to the
burden of express trains which would
not stop to take on residents of the
street and which would run at a speed
such as to endanger life and property.
That would not be an ordinary street
purpose such as was in contemplation
of the dedicatorS. The supreme court
had held this with regard to steam rail-
ways and the rule ought to be the
same with regard to electric trains
running through without stop.
Z. N. Ackers. representing Hamline
citizens, protested against the remov-
ing of the tracks of the Hamline line
from Lexington to Hamline avenue.
Alexander Adams, of the Tenth ward.
also protested against the removal of
the track on Lexington avenue If it
was necessary to give Lexington ave-
nue. over to the park board then the
cars should be operated on Minnehaha
street to Como avenue He also stated
That the Hamline residents were op-
posed to the increase of fares on the
interurban line.
position on the part of the council to
rush the measure through What the
council had been trying to do was to
get an ordinance which would settle
the difference now existing between the
city and the railway company and one
which the company would accept He
was glad to hear the gentlemen speak
as to the objections. The only desire
for haste, if there was any, was to
get the work on the Selby avenue line
commenced before fall. The committee
then rose and after the board had re-
assembled progress was reported
REFERRED TO COMMITTEE.
On motion of Aid. Sanborn, the or
dinance was referred to the committee
on streets, and a meeting of the COM
mittee will be held Friday afternoon
at o'clock 1t was announced that
the committee on streets from the as
Sembly would be invited to meet with
the aldermanic committee to consider
the measure. The city clerk was direct
ed to procure fifty copies of the ordiu-
ance for the use of the aldermen, and
the board then took and adjournment
to Wednesday evening ar 7.2n o,oIooI-