New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1897-06-15
THE DEBATE IN DETAIL.

r1ILMAN REBUXED BY SENATOR HoAK-Mh'
ALLISON DEFENDS THE SUGAR SCHEDULE
Washington. June 1.-THE Tarin Dill was 'aheii
On with little delay for morning business IN the
Senate to-day and Mr.. Allison, IN charge Vi ''e
bill. asked for an agreement that the daily ses-
sions Of the Senate begin at II G. m. on ana after
Wednesday next Mr.. Vest preferred 10 nave me
agreement conditioned an understanding LOT
daily adiournments at 8 p. m Mr.. Allsoh salo
that there would be no difficulty ABOUT tha'' anu
the agreement for early sessions was eHecteu'
Mr. Allen pop. Neb) then reverted TO the COL
loouv last Saturday. in which he held that II was
the right and duty Of the Government, u 'ahe
egal steps to dissolve the Sugar Trust. lie argued
that Injunction. quo warranto ana o'he~ Nsa'
process could be invoked against the trust ne
declared that the right Of the Federai courts u
aust n State corporation engaged In interstate Or
International trade was undoubted II Ha'e"esei
and b,s associates went TO New-Jersey TO procure
, charter as mere shield for improper proceed
nzs and not to conduct business In tha' S'a'e 'ne
act was fraudulent the charter VOID, ana inc reu-
eral courts had jurisdiction over the SUBJECT M
Allen next spoke In favor Of abrogating the ma
waiian treaty -
Mr. Pe,tgrew followed in support OF his amend
cor. nronosing that articles made by trust be
out on the free list. He asserted that II was d
serious question how the present cover n'.' =.
the trusts and for the trusts couio De 'Hio""
or There were trusts in coal. sugar, OIL grass
SOC, chemicals crockery and all other great sta
niles sitting competition and setting up the rule
Of monopoly. No tariff bill would be successiul. ne
kaid without some defence OF the people asains'
the Trusts and such bill would meet Win popu
lar commentator. AS a protectionist ne onereu
This amendment believing that with II the larii
nh could be defended against ASSAULTS
when Mr. Pettigrew closed the Senate was
brousht back to the pending amendment offered
oy Mr. Lindsay to strike out the distinction as u
Dutch standard in the frht paragraph OF the sugar
schedule. placing oil sugars on an eQuaiy al
rent per pound and 310O cent additional for every
sepree above 10 The amendment was defeated
sves 2s: noes 29-Mr. McEnery voting with the
Republicans in the negative. and Messrs. mantle
and Pettigrew silver Republicans. with the Demo-
srats IN the affirmative
Mr. Mills moved TO strike out Paragraph 2O6 ana
insert a uniform duty OF 40 per cent ad valorem
Rejected without division
A SUGAR COMMISSION PROPOSED.
Mr.. Hoar offered his amendment for the appoint
nent by the President Of commission Of FIVE to
Investigate the subject Of sugar production and
The best means OF supplying the American market
at the least cost He said the raising OF revenue
from sugar had been subject Of contention for
l5O years in England and this country. He did not
think any considerable portion Of the people be-
heved that the men who had framed these and
former tariff schedules were impelled by any other
than honorable motives. But the men who make
questions which had already broken down one OF
the Senators ont A!drich); Mr. Hoar urged
command the best talent of the country in present.
ing the Senate the fullest information concern
ing sugar. Next 10 the development of the virgin
wheat fields, the development OF the sugar beet
would be the greatest boon to agriculture. Revert
ing again TO published statements OF irregularity
In connection with the sugar schedule. MI. Hoar
press that somebody had been bribing Senators
these statements were received by serious people
Mr.. Allison suggested that this was such an I'M
portant question that it ought to be considered by
tha Epnp mi
Mr.. Hoar agreed to the reference of the amend
M jones' Of Arkansas. said 'i that the Tariff Com
mission appointed in 1888 at the instance of Repub-
an M Hoa He said he
the deepest respect for the integrity Of the Senator
callous in his long service. as was indicated by the
statement that the best people of both parties
irreeularity in making the sugar schedule But
when published statements were made that sena-
eumstantial evidence was at hand that huge mo-
n s eE Se bH Sn tine P Pub shat Of The
pus-then 1t was strange. indeed. that any Senator
these charges. On the contrary. the people wanted
an Investigation; they wanted the honor OF the
punished For that reason Mr. Tillman said. he
had contemplated an amendment to AR Hoar's
Inquire into the mere machinery of sugar making.
but also whether the Sugar Trust has used undue
Of how II is and why it is that the American Sen
ate sant touch sugar without getting contami-
MIR. HOAR's CAsTIGATION OF TILLMAN
Mr. Hoar was again on his feet and speaking
with great deberatlon made his response TO Mr.
Tillman. Turning TO the South Carolina Senator
Dir. Hoar said there were some men who seemed
TO think that down beneath the body of the people
there was a great mass OF seething people eager
for extremes. He knew through and through the
character. purposes and opinions of the men who
get their living from 'the farms and factories OF
Massachusetts He had sprung from yeoman hi
q
what they thinking about. They are" hi
proceeded impressivey. simple. sincere. honest
fioerty-ioving. God-fesring men. They think M
ears with them.
.Wil the Senator permit me- broke in Mr.
Tilman.
the farms and the factories the same tn
country over he said. Their kinsmen had turned
Westward. building up new empire there,
larger and more glorious New England. And
hold" concluded Mr. Hoar. that 10 the great bodl
Of these people these charges are not only pre-
posterous but infamous"
Mr TiIlman again ready with a reply. "a
70 he Senng ass 81 as the
he said
Bur tbs Massachusetts, Senator promptly inter
rupted MIN. II deny that statement" said Mr
iioay. Il said just the contrary, ana my state
n;ea is perverted"
Every we'll" answered Mr. Tillnan. you ar
the last man would be willing 70 nlisrepresent I
TO went On yet he claimed TO have come from tn
farm and from the people, and to have come
the Senate recently than the Massachusetts
Senator lie knew. he said. that the only thin
people. was the refusal 20 investigate, and thi
effort 10 hide behind the Sena torai toga." II IN
Senate persisted In this. then II was osgraced be