The Saint Paul globe., 1897-08-19

just glanced at it as published in the
G o b e. However, l don't think that
the company intends running it's inter-
urban cars any faster than it does
now: they will make better time be-
cause they will not stop so often, and
professional men and others who want
to make quick time in going from one
city to another should welcome the
change If the fare is increased it
should be welcomed by the retailers,
for it would place an additional en-
barge on those who go to Minneapolis
to do their trading. We know We
haven't the facilities to the union de-
pot we should have, but the present
topography of that vicinity presents
such disadvantages that anything bet
ter than what has been proposed is
impossible
7. D. O'Brien asked permission to
say a few words on behalf of the ex-
tensive property interests he repre-
sents, which was freely. accorded him
and in a mild manner, ne scored the
proposed ordinance with:
ANY arbitrary action of the council
which will depreciate the value of the
property of any individual citizen is
an outrage. ST. Paul is not in condi-
tlOn where one man can be benefited
at anOther'S cost and, if this ordinance
does that, it is a crime. 1t is apparent
that the interurban line is now run i'll
the interests of the Minneapolis re-
tailers, and, if there is any delay i'll
the service, it is always at the st. Paul
end of the line. If this change is go
ing to further injure the retailers of
this city, and it appears to me that it
WILL for heavens sake let us stop it.
We must protect the people of ST. Paul
who are doing business here, not to
boom the property of anyone. There
are older people than myself present,
and it may seem preSumptuous in me
to say this, but it is evident that the
citizens Of st. Paul are not alive to
their own interests. Even, if there
should be any advantage in having
quicker time service to Minneapolis, is
there any reason why an additional
cents should be tackled on to the fare?
This is an important matter, it is a
very serious matter, and the council
should not act hastily. 1 would suggest
that the council be requested to defer.
action until the sentiment of the COM
mercial bodies can be ascertained"
l.. S. CuShingI agree with Mr.
O'Brieh and think that the council
should be asked not to take any ac-
ton until the commercial bodies can
get to gether and formulate an express
sion of opinion.
c. B. Bowlby-This ordinance will
work an immense injury to the city
and the wholesale and retail interests
should work together to oppose any
such concessions. 1t would never have
been brought except by the street rail-
way company, which is getting every
thing it wants, and by Mr.. Lindeke
and several others who are heavily in
terested in property on Broadway and
want the loop to run there to increase
its value. The proposed arrangement
OF the car lines is to scatter our re-
tail business. We want something to
remedy this, not to make it worse. [
know it will injure our business and
that of many others. AS regards the
1nterurban line, if we give the COM
pany what it wants, we will be sorry
for it for many day afterwards. The
only thing left us now is to request
the council not to take any action in
the matter until we have a chance to
be heard.
This lead to an interchange of words
at short range between Messrs. Lin
deke and Bowlby, the former intimat-
ing that the latter wasn't fully posted
on what he was talking about, and
that he shouldn't think that his store
as fine as it is, was the center of the
retail trade of st. Paul-and concluded
by saying that the ordinance was goine.
to be passed anyway, and that, too, be-
fore many weeks had elapsed Mr.
L1ndeke was at the head of the whole
matter in trying to get the Broadway
loop at the expense of the rest of the
city.
The secretary was instructed to re-
quest the council not to take final ac-
ton on the ordinance until the COM
mercial bodies had met to discuss it,
and the meeting then adjourned The
committees from the different organ
IZatlOnS are AS follows.
Chamber of Commerce.. G. Rogers r. A.
Kirk, Kirk, A. H. Lindeke, S. L. Moore and L. S.
Retailers Union-C B. Bowlby, J. Mann
heimer, H. e. L. Habighorst, T. B. Myers
and Louis Nash
Commercial Club c. Shandrew, E. s.
II. Merrick, H. c. McNa1r, F. Schlick, A.
K. Pruden, F. B: Curtis W. P. Jewett F.
/. Whitney and w. H. Thurston.
The G o e made an effort yester-
day to sound public sentiment on the
proposed grab, and, SO far as any ex-
pressions of opinion go, the citizens
cannot quite stand the work Even the
men most friendly to the street cars
interests would hesitate before going
on record in it's favor Here are some
opinions on the subject:
SIMPLY MEANS FOUR TRACKS.
Louis Nash-I have just read the
U o e's editorial dehouncing the ordinance
ana l certainly commend the force of it. The
whole thing looks like a covert scheme on
the part of the street railway company to
accomplish by duplicity what it failed to
90 by honorable methods-that is to secure
the right of way for a four-track system
between the two cities, in spite of the Eighth
Warders, of whom am one, being against anv
further utilization of University avenue for
street railway purposes. A careful ANALYSIS
of statistics will demonstrate that the TIni-
Yersity avenue line has contributed more
than its fair quota to the list of deplorable
accidents, with the number of cars at present
in existence The question arises if express
trains are to be permitted on that line how
much longer can it be used as a business
thoroughfare? Apart from that. there is no
demand from the public for such changes as
are suggested in this ordinance
7. d. O'Brien-The company seems tn
have made a bugbear out of Selby hill to
frighten or stampede people into giving it
an ordinance on its own terms.
E. A. Paradis, of the Midway News-I
haven't looked into the ordinance much but
what / have read convinces me that it should
be looked into before the council passes 1t.
The interurban scheme is certain to be un
satisfactory, and especially a 15 cent fare.
G. B. Bowlby-The proposed new ordinance
is a farce.
R. A. Kirk was seen, but declined to be in
terviewed, although he said there seemed
to be some Objectionable features about the