The times., 1897-05-20

there is no effectual way to pacify Cuba
unless it begins with the actual submis-
sion OF the armed rebels to the mother
country
Mr. Foraker held from this that media
tion was not now more practicable than
then Spain would not entertain a prop0-
sition based on independence when she
had rejected one based on her sovereignty.
Mr.. Hoar suggested that Spain might
mediate three or four months hence. The
present and past propositions were far
separated from each other.
Mr.. Foraker replied that it was not
reasonable to expect change OF Spanish
mid. Spain did not change her mind dur
ing the ten years war. Mediation was
out of the question. We could, however,
recognize belligerency or We could inter
vene- He believed in, and counseled, i'm
mediate ipterventonin the name oil civillZa-
ton and humanity. tApplause But The
present resolution did not go far enough.
To Justify the resolution, according TO
International law, two things must CO
exist; first, that there is war in Cuba,
and second, that we have interests there
pleiutiicially affected.
Mr. Foraker then went on TO prove the
existence of war, in the international
sense, in Cuba, where the civil government
Lad been supplanted by the military. Fe
held that the facts showed that the ci Ill
government of the Cuban republic also ex.
listed. He did not rely on newspaper re-
ports He hadofficial records from the State
Department; and all papers in the State De
partrnent were confirmatory OF the exist
Of iyiI Wi
40 900 men under arms.
Mr. White desired TO know If these docu-
ments would be given to the public.
Mr.. Foraker replied that if he had his way
they would all be given TO the public to-
morrow morning. tApplause). He would
give as best he could under the limitations
and restrictions imposed by the State De-
partrncnt.
Mr.. Foraker said that the war could be
proved from a communication of Mr. Olney
TO Mr.. De LONE in relation TO the prociana-
tion cf Weyler that all the provinces except
one had been pacified. Mr. Olney recalled
to Mr. be LONE the fact that Spain & pronr-
ises of suppressing the rebellion had not
been kept, and that the expectations en-
tertaned by you in the summer and fall Of
1895 had completely failed to be realized.
Mr.. Olney called attention to the fact
that the Spaniards had to admit that the
insurgents held the largest OF the six
provinces, which was provided with a
postal system and fiscal sytsem. II can
not understand" said Mr. olney. ''thc
truth of the claim that all of the provinces
are in the main pacified. except that of
Santiago de Cuba, because there are more
insurgents under arms at this time than
(Mr. Foraker omitted certain parts herel
there We're eleven months ago. | do not
think il fair inference to draw from
existing conditions that tile war is APP
preaching termination" Mr.. OIney said
that the policy OF the insurgents was not
to fight or drive out the Spaniards, but To
continue their tactics as ct present. ~
conclude he said, that the war will
drag its slow length along
Mr.. Foraker also read an extract 1Iom
a "consul's report" wnich, all tn use
who heard it, ascribed to Gen. Lee 1t
dealt in general terms with the atrocities
charged against the Spaniards every
where on the island. One of the phrases
was the numbering OF men and'-Mr.
Foraker having misplaced a fragment
of the extract continued-'women aid
said.
Mr. Foraker then spoke OF the 600 or
700 Americans who are suffering in Cuba.
Mr. Elkins protested against the Senator
making such statements after conferences
at the White House and State Department.,
with the bli nds pulled down, and then SEN
ators slipping away to retail their infor-
nation unorficially in the Senate. lie did
MI. Foraker said thathe made the state
ments officially, as q Senator, from the
records The President himself had re-
ferred to the 500 or 500 American cit
izens Any Senator could get the infor-
nation if he desired.
Mr EIkins didn't think that Senators
ought to be made to walk up TO the State
Department for it.
Mr. Foraker then read from Mr.. Olney's
letter to d. LONE TO show the great United
States interests involved He did not think
that there was any force In Mr. Hears
argument that if we recognized Cuban
DelliCcrency American citizens would have
no claim for indemnity. He showed that
Spain was not even now paying claims
due the United States amounting to mil
lions, and could not pay anything at the
end of the war.
He showed that the right of search,
" hich would follow, was not such a ter
rible affair as Indicated by Mr.. Boar
The search applied only to contraband
OF war, such as arms and munitions and
they must he shown to be destined to
Cuba for the insurgents
Mr.. Elkins-Would not that very right
of search mean war in the condition of the
mind of the Senate and the country?
MI Foraker replied that it was evident
that the Senator from West Virginia would
vote against the resolution merely on
account of the fear Of search.
Mr. Chandler asked Mr.. Elkins where
he got the Information on which he voted
for a similar resolution year ago.
Mr.. Elkins replied that he was misin-
formed then; he had acted on newspaper
reports read in the Senate. Why was not
the proof given OF this war, except unof-