The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1897-06-08

| mocracy was opposed to tariff on raw ma
| terials because such a. tariff necessarily re-
| quired compensatory duties on manufac-
| tured articles. II one wrong was con.
| ceded' he asked shall we multiply it?
| Can error be SO corrected2 That may be
| the logic of your Democracy, il is not of
My position" said Mr.. Bacon, sis that
| if duties are TO be levied on manufactured
/ be levied also on raw materials-that no
| favors should be shown.
HOAR STIRS UP THE TROUBLE.
Senator Hoar improved the opportunity
| offered to humorously goad Senators Bacon
and Caffery by intimating that their reve-
nue. ideas became decidedly protective
when home interests were affected-sugar
| for Louisiana and lumber for Georgia
| Mr.. Caffery, with some display of tenn
! per, announced that there was not an iota
of protection in his makeup Il favor
duty on sugar" said he emphatically, be
! cause the duty goes into the treasury OF
| the United States. You favor protection on
articles which enables the manufacturers
| Of those articles to put the equivalent of
| the. duty in their own pockets
Mr.. Bacon and Mr. Caffery had q sharp
| exchange, and seemed about to subside
| when Senator Hoar made some rather sar-
| castle references to Mr.. Cafferys inconsis-
| tency, describing him As a free trader who
| cried always Sugar. Sugar." Sugar
| and who, when the Wilson bill was before
| the Senate was 50 doubtful of what the
| bill would do for sugar that he voted aye
! on the sugar schedule and no on the final
| passage of the bill and then changed to
aye"
| Mr.. Bacon protested at being termed a
| free-trader. He favored duty on all raw
| materials.
"All raw materials that compete with the
| products of Georgia, remarked Mr.. Hoar,
! amid laughter. IF we could commit the
framing of a tariff bill to the free-trade
| senators who are conducting the debate on
| the other side" said he, after its passage
| we would discover that every industry in
their respective States had been amply pro-
! tected. Laughter) Morally, there is
! great deal of human nature in Democrats
| The merriment was so great that the chair
was compelled to suppress it,
| Mr.. Bacon sought to turn the argument
! against Mr.. Hoar by asking MS position as
| to a duty on hides, but the Massachusetts
| senator after explaining his ideas on this
! subject, neatly avoided committing him
| self by asserting that in such bill as the
present he would yield his individual con-
! leagues that he was right.
| After Mr.. Caffery had made the state
| nent that he had no apologies to make for
| his vote on the Wilson BILL the debate be-
| came desultory. Mr.. Allen touched briefly
! on the subject of duty on hides, and then
! inveighed against the lumber duties in the
| bill which he said would be particularly op-
| pressiVe to the people of Nebraska, who
| were the victims of the Lumber Trust. He
| declared that 80 per cent of the lumber
| cut from Maine to Minnesota was cut by
men of foreign birth, and a great portion
| by men who are not citizens of the United
| States.
Mr.. Thurston defended the proposed
lumber duty in brief statement conclud-
ing by arguing that the lumber schedule
in the bill would not increase the cost of
lumber to the people or Nebraska one cent
per thousand feet.
JONES BREAKS IN.
Mr. Jones' of Arkansas, characterized as
absurd the claim that this country was be-
ing flooded by foreign manufactures of
a. Faa Of he hot l1tf
81, 500, 900 worth of lumber was imported last
year. against $40 O0O 900 consumed. He spoke
of the innocent" lumber barons of the
Northwest, who wanted the people to pay
for the alleged high stumpage paid by them,
the great risks they ran on account of fires,
as set forth in the petition to the ways anG
means committee.
Mr.. Spooner protested against the ar
raignment of lumber men as a whole be-
cause of the unscrupulous methods of a few,
and paid high tribute to the integrity and
public spirit of the better class. Mr.. Spoon
er called attention to the remarkable ma
ture of Mr.. Vests amendment, which pro-
posed to secure white pine from the general
duty of 81 on timber Why should the lum-
Der interests of Michigan, Minnesota and
Wisconsin be dealt this blow?
Mr.. Vest disclaimed any intention of dis
eliminating, and said he would be willing to
withdraw his amendment and take the yeas
and nays on Mr.. Allen 5 amendment to put
all lumber on the free list All he wanted,
he said, was a test vote on free lumber.
Mr.. Spooner expressed his Willingness to
agree to this, Whereupon Mr.. Vest declined
to withdraw his amendment. To put white
pine the free list, Mr.. Spooner said,
and would amount 10 the conflscation OF the
property of men who had invested their
money on this side of the border. From the
standpoint of the senator from Missouri he
could see some logic in a motion to put all
lumber on the free list, but none in
proposition to single out white pine and
leave the timber OF New England, the South
and West protected from Canadian compe-
tition by duty of 81.
Mr.. Gray spoke in opposition to tax on
lumber. If private ownership of land, he
said, is to be defended, 1t can't be de-
Tended with the idea that the owners have
the right TO tax the general body of the
people before they can ENJOY the bounties
the land possesses.
Upon the statement by Mr.. Hale that Mr.
Grays remarks resembled those of free
trader the latter said he had no objection
to the word free" or freedom"
coinage of silver?" asked Mr.. Tillman,
whereupon the Senate and galleries roared.
The protection senator from South Car
olina takes up the sword Of the senator
from Nevada (Stewart during his absense."
replied Mr.. Gray. Free silver like the
flowers that bloom in the spring, have moth
ing to do with the case
Mr. Rawlins (Dem., Utah) spoke of the
unfortunate fact that Democrats who were
opposition to this tariff bill should have
been divided in the last campaign. If some
of them, said he, 'h%d stood with us, then
we would not now be lighting this BILL
If the senator and others like him. in
terrupted Mr.. Gray. had paid more atten-
ton to free trade and less to free silver that
would be true
Mr. Rawlins said that the time for the
Democrats to have stood together was six
months ago. Now it was TOO late, and
opposition to bill that was sure to pass
was futile.
Mr. Rawlins's speech brought Mr.. Caffery
to his feet, with the declaration that there
was no reason why the Democrats who
had objected TO the Chicago platform on
the money question should keep their
mouths closed on the enormities of the pres
ent tariff bill. He expressed the opinion
that the Republicans should have brought
in tariff bill to supply the deficit. and re-
gretted they had not. But much as he op--
posed the proposed tariff he considered
free coinage of silver at 16 to l far more
dangerous.
Mr. Caffery continued at some length on
the subject of free silver, stating the rea-
sons for his opposition to it, and concluding
with the statement that he did not see
what place a discussion Of coinage had in
a tariff debate. Then the vote was taken,
as previously announced.
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