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OPINIONS OF INGERSOLL.

While in Chicago the other day Col
Robert G. Ingersoll was interviewed
and expressed himself upon two alb.
sorbing topics as follows:
Il am on the side Of the Greeks.
Those islands seem almost sacred to me.
Whenever l hear the word Greek l think
OF Zeno and Epicurus, Of Aeschylus and
Socrates: or poets, sculptors and phil
osophers: OF all that is subtle, beautiful,
heroic and free: and so l am on the side
Of the Greeks. Besides l have no love
for the Turk. He is cruel. He belongs
to the koran-to q senseless, stupid
book. He has in him no seeds of civil
izRtion. He has stopped growing. He
cannot govern himself, much less 9TH
ers. He Is a robber, and l want his
blood-daubed hands taken from the
white throat OF Greece. The great pow
ers are looking out for themselves. They
are selfish as hunger, as famine. They
have no sympathy. But it looks to me
as II Greece has some secret understand
lag with some great power, and that it
accounts for her daring, for her wonder
full pluck"
What do you think of President Nc
Kinley, his inaugural address. his cabi-
net. and what do you think OF the new
administrations outlook"
Mckinley has made a good start
His inaugural Is moderate. plain and
sensible. I agree with the most Of it.
1t is manly. The cabinet Is good. John
Sherman stands easily at the head. Chi,
cago knows and respects Mr.. Gage. Gov.
Long is a good, honest man; a man ot
Intelligence, experience and culture. Mr..
Bliss stands high in New York-a man
OF the highest character. Gen. Alger is
an excellent man; he did the country
great service and he did the party great
service. He is entitled to the place he
has, and will discharge the duties to The
eatisfaction OF the country. Judge Nc
henna l do not know. but l believe him
10 De a good man and an excellent law
yer. Neither am I acquainted with Mr..
Gary or Mr.. Wilson, but 1 believe they
"e we'll Qualtaed for their posiuona
i@' 1t Is a good cabinet, and l am
.ore We are to have a good, sensible,
m0at, reasonable administration With
, 1897-03-10
TO Chicago or St. Louis

via Omaha or Kansas CITY.
The service of the UNION PACIFIC
via either route is the very best. The
equipment consists OF handsome day
Drawing Room Sleepers, Dining Cars
and Buffet Smoking and Library Cars.
Fewer changes than via any other line.
For time tables, rates, etc, call on
c. CLARK,
Agent.
, 1897-03-10
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10. 1897.

II Mckinley is responsible for Den
ver's coming good times. ull right. If
he isn't, all right also. The fact remains
that the good times are on the way
Denver Times.
, 1897-03-10

vT7ASHISGTON CAMP NO. 1. 7. O. s. of A.
w meets second and fourth Wednesday
evenings In G.. "A. X. hall.
f. W. LEE. Pres.
CORLETT DOwNEY. r. S.
, 1897-03-10

r. EN- CITY LODGE NC. 10. A. O.. q. W.
" Meets second and fourth Monday even
ings in !. O.. o. F. hall.
WM. HICKS, NJ. W,
Ed. SPAFFORp, Recorder.
, 1897-03-10

~ EN- OF THE ROCKIES LODGE no. q,
and third Thursday afternoons In enc}
month in G. A. K. hall.
Mrs. G. p. GARDNER, President
Mrs. j. W. COsTIN. Secretary.
, 1897-03-10

On receipt Of ten cents, cash or stamps,
. generous sample will be mailed of the
most popular Cntarrh and Hay Fever Cure
(Ely's Cream Balm) sufficient to demon
strate the great merits of the remedy.
ELY BROTHERS,
sc Warren ST., New York City.
Rev. John Reid. Jr.. of Great Falls, Mont,
recommended Eiy's Cream Balm to me. I
oane emphasize his statement, at is a posi-
tive cure for catarrh if used rs directed" -
Rev. Francis W. Poole, Pastor Central Pres.
Church, Helena, Mont.
Ely's Cream Balm is the acknowledged
cure for catarrh and contains no mercury
o any injurious drug. Price, SO cents.
Daily Republican Soc per month.
, 1897-03-10

DLACK HILLS LODGE NO. Sc. B.. of l.. +.
D Meets first and third Friday evenings
In A. o. U. ". hall.
G.. l.. DEUEL.. Master.
G.F. DECKELMAN. Secretary.
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THORNBURGH CAMP NO. .. =. Of Y
L Meets second and fourth Friday even.
ngs In each month In I. o. o. +. hall.
VICrOR C~OKEFAIR. Captain.
f. T. EELTZ. First Sergeant.
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r ARAMIE LODGE NO. 4. A. .. u. W.
Meets every Monday evening in A. o U.
". hall. corner Second and Garfield stI Gets
l. n. OvERMAS, NJ. w.
G. W. BUssARD. Recorder
, 1897-03-10

r ARAMIE REBEKAH LODGE NO l, |. o,
- 0. F.-Meets second and fourth Thurs
day evenings in each month in l. 0. {. F.hall.
Mis-. BELLE MEYERS. N q.
MRS. II. +. DAwBER Secretary.
, 1897-03-10

TUSTER POST NC. l. G. A. R.-Meets sec
ond and fourth Monday evenings in each
month in q. A. K. hall. corner Second and
Garfield streets. K. g. HOLIDAY, +. O.
{. W. SPALDING, Adjutant.
, 1897-03-10

TUSTER CORPS NO. 20. W. K. C.-Meets
" first and third Monday evenings in each
month in G. A. X. hall.
MARY f. INGERsoLL, President.
RI ANNA b. HOLIDAY, Secretary
, 1897-03-10

DOCkY MOUNTAIN DIVISION NO 10.
~ b. OF l.. E.-Meets every Saturday aver
Ing in G. A. r. hall.
WIN. NOTTAGE. Chief Engineer.
G. W. DEFOREST. First Assistant.
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T AHAMiE LODGE No. =. | OO F.-Mr.
IL every Tuesday evening In 10 o. F. la.
corner Second and Garfield streets.
Il. c. PIlTMAN n. G
A. f BERNER. Secretary.
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A LBhNY LODGE NO. T. |. o. Q. F.-Ne"ts
- every Wednesday evening In |. o. O. +.
uall. LEWIS TYvOLD, N. @.
5. b. MILLER. Secretary.
, 1897-03-10

V17YOMING ENCAMPMENT No. /. l. o
" Q. F.-Meets first and third IhursGaS
evening Of each month IN |. o O F. hall.
HERMAN CLARK. G. P.
john A~CKERMAN. SciiDc.
, 1897-03-10

TY1ASATCH TRIBE NO. .. |. 0 of K. Nj
" Meets first and third Monday evening
in |. o. o. F.. hall. CHAS. NJ. NISsEN. 5.
PAUL BATH. G of r.
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D ". BAXTER, JR.. LODGE NO. 81, r. O,
~. K. X. T.-Meets first ana thru Wed nes-
day evenings in G. A. 4. hall.
il. STOREY, Master.
VIZ. MAra1sOH. Secretary.
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ARhMIE DIVISION No. 9, L. K. X, OF Z
IL Meets second and fourth Thursday eve
ling in each month at the drmury IN x. o
=. hall.
A. h. POrE. captain
JonN FRICk, S. E.R.
, 1897-03-10

NhMON LODGE NO T.. Il. ut Meets
- every Friday evening at Il of 2. hall
ialrh block, >ccuna -trrtI
Wv No-TaGE, co.
P GOsDE". X. OF L. tn, :,
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ENDOWMENT SECTION ~. Endowmen
- Rank, X. Of +. Meets in X. OF 7. hail
". F. CHAPLIN, President
P q. RAUSER. Secretary.
, 1897-03-10
REPUBLICAN BOOK COUPON,

This COUPON. accompanied b
10 CO It's. MI entitie the no de,
to three OF h choice b roks n
ns'u>sfui ana Popular Foo,
or Great Socks b. Famous
Au'h0 q" Series. advertised
elsewhere In this paper Ord.
ers received bv mall and books
-ent postage free. Order by
number and letter.
..-..".... .-....,.......
Your uAne. -. o.,
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EBhNOS CHATTER NC. g. Il \ y
IL Meets on the second Wednesday evtniI
III each month IN Masonic hal.
NJ. {. JAhREN II 2
}. f. GATES. recorder.
, 1897-03-10

II ERMION TEMPLENO.I, RathboneStsters
IL Meets first and third Thursday evening
n X. OF 7. Hall.
Mrs. ". f. CHArLlH. NJ. f. G.
Mas. w. A. JONES. M. of K.
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ARhMIE TENT NO. :. K.O T. NJ. Meets
- second and fourth Wednesdays of each
month in a. .. L. W. Hall.
W. y. Roth. Com.
|. X. SwIGART. X. X.
, 1897-03-10

DiLOT CAMP No u. Wcoducn ~ tht
l. World. Mr,ts second and fuu Tia SaiuI.
lay evenings in each month in ! q. -, /
unll. ". \. "AHrIr. &. G.
{ l.. EArNE". { l"rk
, 1897-03-10

CACTI LOYAL ORANGE LODGE NO
~ %. Meets first and thirG Sn'u'du
'~ycuiug~ IN each month in / q .. +. hall.
Mn. l!i'NH, W. NJ.
G.. GoLDES. Secretary.
, 1897-03-10
SECRET SOCIETIES.

Daily Republican soc per month.
, 1897-03-10

Daily Republican Soc per month.
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10
NO. 1872.
EFFICIENT, WORTHY OFFICIAL.
Receiver Thornton of lst National
Bank Given q Handsome Cane
and Umbrella by Paid-Up
Depositors, in Testimo-
NAL of Annreniation
NAL Of Appreciation,

DepOSlJOrB, IN IeSllmo-
NAL Of Appreciation,
COL y. M, Thornton, receiver Of
the First National Bank, has wound
up its business most satisfactorily;
paid up in full all depositors, with
some interest, although it was
thought before he took charge that
institution would not pay over GO
per cent, of such claims, He has
proven a most efficient official, and
by ais gentlemanly bearing has won
a large number Of firm friends in
our city who will very much regret
to see HIM leave,
As a slight token Of appreciation
largest depositors sent him a hand
some cane and umbrella, with the
following note, which we reproduce,
together with Col Thornton's reply
to the same
TeXarkana, Ark Jan, 7, '07
Mr. y, NJ, Thornton Dear Sir
We, the undersigned depositors in
The First National Bank, desire to
show our appreciation Of your of-
forts in settling the Banks affairs,
and wish You to accept this cane
and umbrella as a material expires,
sion Of our gratitude, May they
always serve as pleasant reminders
Of your stay in TeXarkana,
j Huckins, Jrp @ II Johnson,
Mrs M Glle NJ Y Marrah,
Otto 1erchten, u j llobgood,
$ n Whitesides, II l. Grant,
l. A lawson, A WensteIn,
- II Arrendalc, j McEroy
A A Adamn W l. Hayden,
j " Benjamin, N Cassidy
Louis lIeilJrug, q n Stock,
Chemical National Bank,
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

For bIlIouaHrsl uau browns Iron
Tonic Smith Drug Co.
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10
The NdbObS.

Cast includes May Ten Bfoeek,
Frank David. Clara LAME. WIN.
llIaisdoll Carlottd and others, all
the latest musical Wttoasos from
New YORK; London aud Paris
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10
ONCE Of Receiver lst Natl Bank,

ONCE ol Receiver lHt Natl Bank,
Texarkana, Texo Jan, Z, 'O7
Gcntlcmcni=Pcrmit me TO thank
you most sincerely for the beautiful
and valuable gIlts received today,
! have done only my duty but It Is
gratifying TO know that ones efforts
are appreciated by those for whom
we labor aud II is doubly pleasant
to bc appraised Of the fact In the
kind words Of your note, he agsur'
ed that the good people Of TeSar-
kama will ever hold a warm place In
my heart Again thanking you for
your kindness, and wishing each Of
you a happy New Year am,
Most gratefully yours,
TO Tn0a. M, TuoRNToN
j, llucRlNa, jN
and others
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10
Negro MinaIrals

A pleasing feature Of Rleha0s n
priagles Famous Georgia Mihstfels
that comes 10 the opera house, fe'
turned date, Jan, 18TH Ia the doing
away with the gOudy satin aud yel-
vet costumes and unnatural powd'
cred wigs which have Inconsistency
make their way into negro mins
HtoB, aud have returned 10 the old
time dress suits aud the usual con.
tunes Of the slS und men, This dc,
pafture IL being done 20 bring back
bysgone memories Of mlaslfelsy,
IA the days when We we're boys
aud girls the songs Of The sweet
aIngom were Of melody aud harmO'
ny Then the end maa was 10 u
faf more ihtefestlAg than the eifs
Gus clown, aud when the old plans
tati0h "bfeakdowh' made us AL
most Wish wo could join che losllyl'
tlea. Ia bygone days the slfe ot
the company cut no figure II was
the ability 90 please that counted
The Geofgias will be a pleasant fez
lief 10 the theatre patrons The
company is composed Of genuine
npprd performers, who are picked
artists, aud the press everywhere
speak Of them In The highest terms.
Prices reduced 10 30 cents,
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

For hfstHelass meals 20 TO "fhe
Maude restaurant, corner Broad
land State streets, ! llarltman pro.
Iprlelor II IA bran new, handsome.
Ily furnished aud thoroughly euuIp
ped separate dining rooms with
rich and pretty p0ftiefs, make a
party aa private as possible, Ser.
vice uHeg6ollod. 1890
For bllIouaArw uso browns Iron
fonIgr Smith Drug 90,
Monogram will make friends III
years Old Sold only by
.royr bfGaAltfB
llpaduG llym are la need ot lum
ben j, Il, Whatluy can supply your
wants, aud AZ lower prices than
anybody else IN the city, BE sure
10 yet his prices before buying
rhe latest thing In the city are
those excellent hot drinks, al the
Palace Drug Store 20 there aud
try a cup Of hot soda, chocolate,
coffee 0f beef tea 1916,
All l0yefs0t good beer cay that
Anheusefllusth and lempsbeefa are
the beet u q Vandeweghe is agent
f0f them tn fegafbaha. Ia
iiobH1odH State tiHs aud tlf6ad
street mnfbrlstaH supply you with
ihp beat the market affords good
weight aud low prices, ll10
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

Many nice compliments have been
paid this paper lately A drums
mer friend told us the other day
hat the TExARKAMAN was the
newsieBt, neatest printed daily IN
the state outside Of Little Rock,
when we consider that Hot Springs
aud Pine BWl arc both larger and
older cities with much more wealth
and ought to have better papers,
we appreciated hiH kind words,
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

You can be- we'll when your blood
W rich, pure aud n0urlbhlnR Hoods
Saraapirilla makes the blood rich
aud pure aud cures all blood dis
eases, restoring health and ylgor
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

Hoods Pills are easy 10 take, easy
10 operate. Cure indigestion,
headache,
The Daily Texarkanian., 1897-01-10

Grand auction sale at $40 East
broad street Wednesday aud rhus,
day all the goods saved tfom The
lire will positively be sold 10 highest
bidder these days
Temple 0F FASHION
California fruits d large assott
meht, an kIuds, lust reteleyed
B NJ RAGLAsB,
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

the grand jnry, and in taking the
names OF parties against whom in
dictments are found, you should be
careful to get the full names. DO
not give names by initials. but get
the first christian name in full, and
be very careful to get the correct
names of all parties and witnesses.
The court hopes that you will
keep in mind the charge | have
given you; that you will remember
that you are occupying no ordinary
position today. You are occupy
ing a position which is as impor-
tant as that of any office in the
United States; you are occupying
a position, which, when not prop
erly filled, causes communities to
go to the bad, for lawlessness and
crime to run riot. 1t is only
when the grand jury does its duty
properly that the court is able to
act, and the community is safe.
You stand as the support of soci-
ETY., and of the judicial branch
of the government. Be careful not
to put a stain on the name of an
innocent man, woman or child.
At the same time be careful that
you guard the rights of the govern
ment and the community at large.
There can be neither peace, con-
tentment, happiness or order un-
less you assist in maintaining the
law. and on that, gentlemen, con-
fidently rely.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07
To Stand Keepers:
| Have What You Need
John G. Gray.

ual provisions of abstract law; and
she never will do it. The United
States having no claim upon the
land, her guaranty" can have no
tendency whatever to improve and
strengthen the title to the allottee;
the title being weak and INSULT
cient, it must needs remain so,
guaranty or no guaranty. In a
contention between the railroad
company and the lllottee in court
of law about the possession of this
land. the latter will plead and rely
upon his guaranty from the United
States; but the 70. mer will plead
and rely upon a former, and much
older, guaranty from The same
power; and it requires but a very
small grain of common sense to
see and know which one of these
guarantees will prevail.
Now the Dawes commission see
and know all this; why do they
not frankly admit the facts and
their legal effect, and tell these In
dians plainly that the railroad
company is, in fact, going to get all
these lands in the end, and then
stipulate accordingly. Why not
go at this work in an open. honest,
manly way? What is the use to
keep running and lodging around
the bushes of cunning diplomacy?
Let all this delusive stuff about
guarantying title and possession be
blown at once to the winds where
it ought to go; and provide in the
agreement in plain terms that the
Indians are to expect nothing but
moneyed indemnity for the loss of
their homes. The honor of the
United States cannot afford to be
insincere in dealing with these
people. They should be allowed
to see the end from the beginning
that under the agreement, as it
now stands, the railroad company
is to have the land, and the home
less Irdian is to take his place in
the ranks of American tramphood.
TOO-oUA-sTEE.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

AS THE days go by indications
multiply that the destruction of the
jurisdiction of the Indian courts on
the first day of 1898 was-a congress
sional "bogie man." That article
of the constitution protecting con-
tracts is just as effective now as the
day it was adopted and if the
treaty of 1865 is not contract we
should be glad to have someone
point out what is essential to make
a contract. That proviso which
declared any agreement entered
into by the Dawes commission
prior to January 1, 1898, stipulat-
ing to the contrary should super
sede the enactment, "gave it away"
at the start.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07
AUTONOMY In NAME ONLY.

Judge Thomas in his very able
and elaborate charge to the grand
jury at the opening of court gave
utterance to some thoughts that in
dicate to a marked degree the pass
ing of Indian autonomy. Nay,
more than that, the utter disre-
gard of congress for the treaties or
the rights of the Indians under
them. We have reference to the
statute touching the killing and
poisoning of fish. We are not
among those who want to see the
wholesale and wanton slaughter of
fish and game, but on the contrary
are pleased that it is going to be
stopped. But the matter that at
tention is called to at this time is
that under the solemn treaties Of
the United States with the Indians
this country, with its streams, and
mountains, and forests, and prai-
ries, belongs to the Indians, and
under that compact the court it.
self could not hunt or fish without
permission from the proper au-
thorities. 1t is ore of the signs
of the passing of the Indian and his
government. For three quarters
of century the Cherokees have
fondly believed that this country
with its game and fish. with its
wilderness and its pristine beauty,
was theirs, the title to which
would never be disputed. 1t is
just beginning to dawn on the
mind of the average Indian citizen
that his autonomy is gone, and
that even now he stands face TO
face with the inevitable. The end
has come, and the Indian is
now taking his place beside his
white brother-a citizen of the
United States-and who shall say
that he is not worthy, or that he
will not be among her best citi-
Zens.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07
Yesterday and TODAY witnessed

Yesterday and today witnessed
two scenes that are not likely to
ever again be duplicated in the an
nails of this court. YesterdaEthe be
petit jury restored to his family a
man who had been in prisoI. eight
months charged with completely
in a murder; this morning the
grand jury failed to return a true
bill against man who has been in
Jail two months charged with muir
der, and when the Jail door was
thrown open the liberated man
fell into the arms of his thirteen
year-old daughter, and both wept
for joy. People never forget these.
scenes, while they do forget some-
times that ms.cy and justice are
still working in and with the hearts
of men. Those free men today can
but family tell you how much bet
ter it is to be innocent than guilty
it is beyond their expression. So
with all of US, and our pardon in
the great judgment day will be
richer and more inexpressibly dear
than all the glories and victories
of this life.-South McAlester Cap>
itaI
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

IT is being demonstrated again
and again, that married men
should never be trusted alone in a
great city. Hardened single men,
and more especially bachelors, are
able TO hold their own under try
ing circumstances, but the unso-
phlsticated married man is a help
less creature in the presence of
certain kinds of temptation. The
police force of St. Louis is entirely
inadequate to protect bevy OF
tender married men fresh from the
Indian Territory. They are sus-
ceptible to thousand snares, and
have no defense against "the pes
thence that walketh in darkness,
nor for the destruction that wasteth
at MONDAY" Every married man
should be chaperoned by his wife
on an excursion to the city. There
lies the only safety.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

The evidences of the awful con-
sequences OF intemperance continue
to pile up mountain high, and
good men are falling victims of
the drink habit on every hand, yet
there are those among US who
claim that it is a necessary evil, or
no evil at all How long will the
government sit unconcerned while
the greatest of all enemies contin-
ues victorious in every battle?
When the union Was in danger OF
disruption she marched half a mil
lion of her strongest and best
young men to the front. If a for
eign power should attempt to land
its forces upon our shores mil
lion soldiers would fly to arms.
But she allows the manufacture
and sale of worse enemy than all
the armed forces of the world to
debauch her people, young and
old. male and female During the
last chiefs election in this nation
money was furnished by candi-
dates for high offices with which
to purchase whisky to give to men
whose appeiites for drink were
stronger than their morals. Dur
ing the campaign of last summer
candidates for the highest offices
in this district and in Delaware
bought beer by the krg to be given
to those whose votes might be Sc
cured in this way. In one in
stance we have in mind promi-
nent church official not only fur
nished the liquor for others but
drank to excess himself. Shame
on such empty, miserable profess
sieps of Christianity.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

The Greek treaty has the ear
marks OF the pasture owner and
the monopolist, as well as those OF
the railroad msgnate and the town.
site schemer. The proposition TO
sell the surplus land left after each
citizen has taken his allotment of
$50 acres at minimum price of
sl.25 per acre, and the privilege of
purchase restricted to Creek citi-
zens is too plain to be misunder-
stood. II common sense and full
blood patriotism prevails the
Greek council will not ratify the
agreement In any event the
Cherokees will never consent to
anything of the kind, and would
spurn the whole thing with con-
tempt.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

One of the things that is of
prime importance to the Cherokee
people at the present juncture is
the decision of Judge Springer in
the citizenship cases, carried upon
appeal from the Dawes commits
sion. These decisions are TO be
final, and are awaited with a great
deal of interest. 1t is confidently
claimed by some of the attorneys
for the claimants that they have, a
great many of them, received fav-
orable consideration at the hands
of the masters in chancery. Judge
Springer's decision will be forth
coming very soon and the Chero-
kee nation will know its fate, as
will also the claimants.
Indian chieftain. [volume] (Vinita, Indian Territory [Okla.]) 1882-1902, 1897-10-07

A VERY large number of the
criminal cases called from the
docket at the first OF the court
were answered by the prosecuting
attorney stating that the parties
against whom indictments were
returned had never been arrested.
This is probably cbargeable to the
fact that deputies have been work
ing under the fee system, and that
the fees were insufficient to insure
the enforcement of thelaw. How.
ever, the attorney generals recent
ruling placing all the criminal. in
dictments under the common head
of felonies gives the deputy a
chance to work, practically, same
as If on a salary.