Evening journal., 1897-05-05

could. / always have done It. and he
knows II. and l supposed it-but-
well. / admit his testimony In the main |
is true. But / supposed | was dealing
in honor BY the gods that made Moses, |
/ would suffer my right arm to rot off
before l would give any secrets away
entrusted TO me as such, and he knows
that, too, l think. l will admit that
what he said is about fair"
Mr. Hoffecker was asked whether he
charged anyone else Of being connected
with the alleged attempted bribery.
He answered: "Only the members 4
have mentioned. / never mentioned
any names at all"
"You never told any man that GER
tain men wanted money to pass the
bil?"
"I did not"
did | ask you for any specified
sum-" asked Mr. Pyle, "Or did | say
/ wanted money for anything l did for
that bill?"
"You said II would cost from $1,000
to 81 800 to get that bill favorably con
sidered. but you said you did not want
Il for yourself.
81 don't remember that" said Sen
ator Pyle.
llu OtHdAbI i 9lt blNt AAAN 90 hiR
opinion as to the amount OF money
that would be required to pass the bill
or did he ask you for q fee?" asked
John ID. Hawkins, Mr.. Pyle's attorney.
What he intended | cannot say;
only what I have said in answer to
questions asked"
His reply afterwards was send the
bill along and / will see what we can
do for t., wasn't it?"
"That was after the second inter-
view. Il was part and parcel of the
i conversation which took place on
March ., when we again had discussed
the amount of money. and when said
that Mrs. Cause said she would not
touch n divorce tainted with bribery.
/ then made the remark that / would
see tho whole outfit in hotter place
than this before / would pay anything
to get the bill through"
what was your object in sending
for members OF the Legislature to come
to your Officer"
ITO find out whether Il was so that
money would have to be used
why did you send for these men
and not for the others?"
"They lived near town and | knew
Il would be an easy matter to get them
said that / wanted to get a divorce
not tainted with bribery. Mr.. White
said he would not agree to divorce
being obtained in that way"
"Who did you see that second timer
mo one but Senator Pyle"
did you have any conversation
with Mr.. Mccullough after the time h'
met you at your officer"
j None that l recall. II has been sug
gested that / met him on the street;
I so, It was nothing more than to sa.
:. How do you dor
"Did you send Mr. Mccullough
similar letter to that which you sen
- to Mr.. Pyle?"
'Yes, sir"
a at the same time you addresso
5 your letter to Mr. Pyle?"
e Eyes, sir"
. They called on the same day?"
+ "They did"
"Mr. Pyle called hrst?"
Yes, sir"
+ How long was It between his leav
ing and Mr. Mccullough coming in?'
s mot more than four or FIVE minute
! had elapsed"
d Mr.. Hoffecker then explained to tn
committee the arrangement OF hi
Offices in the Lore building.
AT the time Mr.. Mccullough ha
/ the conference with you was he in you
small private office? Was there any
Il one with you besides him."
mo, sir"
# "Who was in the next room?"
MI "Mr. Wales"
was there rolling top desk bC
IA tween Mr.. Wales and your door?'
"Yes, sir"
e "Was be engagedy"
p Il don't know"
k "Was the conversation such as
u could be heard in that rOom?'
n 1T was in ordinary conversations
l. tone"
-e do you now recall whether or NJ
there were some ladies there talkin
is with your brother Frank and M
e. Wales?"
Il don't know. Can't say wheth'
lg they were or not"
III do you remember the first thing yC
I'd said to Mr. McCullough?"
d. ITO the best of my recollection
] said had sent for him to talk over Il
n- Cause divorce case. / had been told
l prominent politicians ! was going
erl meet with opposition regardiI
Mt that bill. and had taken the liberty
- ask him to come and see me about b
ing told that / would have to spei
money to get it through. / had relat
Ir. in substance what had taken place b
ly tween Senator Pyle and myself.
Ir. "The first question | asked him aft
u / had gotten through, giving him
an that Senator Pyle had said, exceptii
n the figures, which / was careful to kee
er l asked him what his figures we're, al
he asked me what the old man h
,r- said"
p" Il parried that for a moment becau
ur / wanted to know what his figur
n were"
did he give you any figures?"
ne He did. He said It would cost I
lat from 81 900 to 81 800 Afterwards
Ter said Then you and Senator Pyle agT
as to figures.
Then as / understand It, Mr.. N
Cullough said that IL would take frC
81, 900 to 81, 500 to pass this divorce?
an "He didn't add that. | asked h
>" what his figures were, and that was
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