The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-11-18

Never told by any OF the guards or Off,
GERS that he was working th9r9?', No; si1."
did he grab him." "By the collar
What did he do with him? 1 want you
to tell just what he did. HE pounded him
and took him to the door, pounded MIN and
struck him in the back of the head
"Struck him hard?' II presume so.
don't know how hard he struck him."
'What size is this man Kelly?' about
$50 or 100 pounds. Not a very tall man. Not
near SO large as Lemon. "
after he pounded him in the head, what
did he do with him them" Took him down
stairs
'You say he kicked him down stairs?' II
saw him go down stairs with him. He had
him by the collar walking down. POUNDED
him as he went down stairs, and he kicked
him after he got down stairs in the solitary
''You let your convicts in the shop there
do just as they pleased while you were watch
ing the deputy with this MANI No, SIT.
at is not your duty to keep watchful Icy, eye
on your menu Eyes. sir. l could see them
just as well where 1 was
You took pains to watch Lemon poanI
him down stairs? You were neglectlng your
duty, weren't your
81 WAS WATCHING LEMON"
Ibid you ever mention it to anybody while
you were in that PRISON." No, sir; .,
80 Y V y, mean Wa Mr. Temple, the member Of the
You told Mr.. Temple about it? What did
he say to you?" He did not say anything
/ had quite number of conversations with
him regarding Mr.. Lemon"
You did not like Mr.. Lemon? / liked
him as well as he did me: l guess; ,....o..
Tell him the truth" interposed Attorney
Penny. That's what want here
SIR
"And you were watching him do this with
a purpose to tell something's Il don't know
That S happened tai s I'M in 1894. you say?' Yes,
sir
"There was a session of the legislature in
1895 and 1897 and you never mentioned 1t to
them about this, did you?" mo, sir"
And the first you said about it publicly
was after you had been discharged? /
who else did You tell while yoz were
guard there?" 81 remarked it among the
guards there"
about Lemon kicking Kelly
do you think that it is an awIui ohe ss.e
for guard to kick man. '"heh 1t wash
Don't you think that if you had told
Lemon that Kelly jumped thc2 because ne
could not help it that this could nave peeh
avoided?" Knowing him as / DO, l don
think 1t would have made much difference.
Did you ever report Kelly? once TOT
talking"
of you did report him more than once;
yes sir"
you don't mean to be understood as re-
porting him only once?" NO, sir.
you remember what you reported him
/ for?" For talking"
You say he came back the next morning
and not reduced in grade ana h9a spsn nt
the night in the solitary Ihat IS "haV
! he told me" IL.
III convict commits an ofe eYes you siq make
And a man is sent with it to the deputE
''The assistant deputy comes and gets II.
What time of day would he pass on
them?" Between 4 and O'Clock. ,,,o,,
"And then, when they are passed upon,
there is record kept of them l don
know as to that"
1--WE will take the case of Charles lam;
where were you sitting in the chapel that
morning. Il sat on the south side OF the
| chapel.
AGAIN THE HAHN CASE.
..wbat seat did YOU sit in?" Il sat in the
fourth chair" 49,, or 49,. 80
| member where he was sitting
What section goes out first t Wne a me pen
! sounds from the chapel?' 'iAe last section
| that comes in.
! the last" ..,so,,
They all came down the middle aisle.
where were you when you saw Hahn
when he spit in this iady's face, or tried 10
kiss herr" q did not see that was out
you had taken your crew and gone out
of this entrance? Indicating On plan OF
the chapel9 Where were you at the time i'm
| you saw this trOubie? On the noftn slde
| of the cell house. s...G
''The entrance to the chapel is on the south
side?' Yes sir. l was about half way
down the gallery, on the scuth side, when
they brought him out. The assistant deputy
| was taking Hahn out.
"Where was it that you saw somebody kick
| him." On the gallery on the north side"
| After they came our there was there any
kicking pounding there at the entrance to
the chapel? NO, sir"
Hahn was not 1esisttng?" mo, sir. Not
| that ! could see"
| And you did not see any force used at that
! tme?" Not at that time -
! Did you say Fa ker was there:" Yes, r"
When did you first see C9liigan?" "Wh~n
| they got to the opening of the Stairway
Did you see Hahn Down on his back kick
| ing, shortly after they came out?' He was
down on his back. I saw him On his back"
| jured in that scufle?" mos sir"
He was down on his back" ''Yes, sir"
VINO got him up?' Il don't know"
Did you see Mr.. Lemon club him?' No,
Did YOU see. Lemon kick him and strike
Then all you know, about the clubbing
! business was what you heard?' only what
| GlennOn told me-
Mr. Flandrau-What was this man charged
| with what did he Go that caused his arrest
| in the chapel? State what this man had
! dCle that caused his arrest at this time. "Mr.
Glennon tod me that he had spit in a
lady's face"
fer Mir. Drake. SD was visitor. Hahn
made face or something, l don't know just
/ exactly what it was. That was the occasion
| of the arrest. II was a woman he did not
| know. She was enc CT the audience.
Did you give an interview to the G | 0 b g
| in reference to this same thing?" II be-
! leve I did
DO you remember that interview in the
Yes
| Was that substantially correct?' q
| think it is so far as | know"
Now in that interview you say that he was
literally. thrown down fight after flight Of
stairs four of them" Il don't think l put
| it that strong"
And that he was struck on the head with
an iron by Mr.. Lemon?" My recollections
! are that they We're either forcing him out or
dragging him out They hustled him out
| quite rapidly
You told the G 10 e. and they published
| it. at any rate, they carried him to the
hospital Is that correct?" cannot say
as to carrying him to the hospital?"
This is put in quotations as your words ?"
II don remember. l might have I did see
that they had to carry him.
They published it here that they had to
carry him into the hospital?" "Glennon told
me f that hat they carried him into the hospital. .
In his cross-eXamination Mr.. Nethawav in
tlmated that Mr.. Ewing, in some previous
| place, had fixed the date of the assault on
Rose, and asked him when it was.
Mr.. Ewing said it was in June 1885, az
! nearly he could remember
Witness reiterated that he had not seen
| the Hahn affair. Ewing was mixed up some
| what in his description of the solitary and the
incidents that transpired in connection with
! the man whom he said he thought from the
/ sounds was beaten in there.
The Anderson incident was gone into at
! some length, with an apparent intention of
showing that Deputy Warden Lemon was
mot present when the bale was rolled on his