The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1897-04-26

/ tice signed Executive Committee, O.
| NJ b. for publication in the issue of
/ the State journal that evening, and
/ had received payment from him for the
/ same In reference to the article
| which appeared in the issue Of the State
Journal the following day, Mr.. Mac
| Lehman stated that it had been pre-
/ pared by two reporters on the paper,
/ l. L Kiene and Austin Brady, and
/ that he had received no compensation
/ for its publication whatever. He also
/ stated that he had never seen Mr..
! Hitchcock to know him until a few
| days ago, namely, April %, 1897.
Robert Hitchcock was next placed on
| the stand. Hitchcock'S testimony
was interesting in general, but in par
ticular it brought out two rather start
ling facts. One was that a man can
admit that he is Liar with practically
no concern at all, and the other was
that being under oath made a great
deal of difference with him in what he
said He was examined directly by
his attorney, E. g. WILSON, and his
testimony ran as follows:
Q.-How long have you lived in To-
pel1a?
A-Twenty-seven years.
Q-What is your occupation?
A-Engineer and janitOr.
Q-What was your employment On
Oct. g. 1895?
A-Engineer and janitor.
Odd you see Greenspan and HOl-
liday on that date?
Ayes, sir.
Q.-Where2
A-Corner of Seventh and Kansas
avenue.
Q-What was said and done?
A.-Why, Greenspan came up to the
corner and I was there. He asked me
something about a joint in the base
ment of the building. l told him that
we didn't have any joint. He asked how
1 was going TO pull at the election, and
I said the Republican ticket clear down
except Ed McKeever. Then Mr.. Mayer
came up and Greenspan asked him. He
said he was going to vote the Republi-
can ticket clear down. Then he said he
would publish US in all the papers, and
said he would show US who he was.
Q.-Where did you see Holiday?
AT the Republican meeting the
evening before the first notice appeared
in the paper. He asked me who was
giving out the beer, and said didn't
know. He says; Yes, you do; you're
iinging it around here" No. sir; I'm
not" I says. Then he called me out of
the room and said: Look here, Hitch
cock, if this beer is for Morrill, or for
McKeever, you might as well say so"
l said: Go to the chairman il you
want to find out anything about this,
because haven't anything to do with
il. Then he said: If you don't tell
me who's paying for this beer, you'll
get yourself into trouble and somebody
Will be arrested And then Simon
Greenspan came up and said: Yes.
and Wen publish you tomorrow in all
the city papers,"
the 0. NJ. b?
A.-No. I don't think I was; I don't
think I was ever a member.
ODD you ever make application to
A--Yes, made application.
Q.-Did you do anything else but
A.-Why, attended the meetings
right along.
Q--Were you ever sworn?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-Do you know what connection
Maj. Shreve had with the order?
Ale was secretary.
Odd you have any conversation
with Mr.. Holiday after the first publ
cation?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-Any conversation between the
first and second publication?
Al think did.
Odd you see Mr.. MacLennan af-
ter the first publication?
A--Yes, saw him on the 9th; I
wanted to publish an answer, but he
said he didn't want to make a fight on
the 0. NJ. 3. He refused to publish an
answer from me.
Odd you have any other talk with
either Greenspan or Holiday?
Al did with Greenspan, but I'm not
sure that I did with Holiday.
Q.-After the conversation in which
Holiday said he would publish il in
all the papers in the city. did you talk
with Holiday?
Al don't remember.
Q.-What did you tell Mr. MacLen-
nan you wanted to put in the paper in
answer to this publication?
Al just told him that I wanted to
answer it.
Q.-What did he say?
Ale said he didn't want to mix up
Q-I will ask you if any proceedings
had been taken in any lodge looking to
your suspension prior TO this publica-
A-No. si,
Cross examination:
Q.-Were you a member of any lodge
Of the O. NJ b?
Al was never initiated; I don't con-
slider I was.
Odd you have card?
A--Yes, sir.
o;.Is this your card Showing him
A.-Yes sir; I paid 10 cents for it.
Q.-And this card was taken away
A--No, sir; walked up to the lodge
in the Crawford opera house and hand
ed it to the bartender. I didn't want it
any longer.
Q.--Was your name on the charter of
A.--Yes: my name was put on the
charter of lodge 1886.
Q--Were you ever an officer of any
. A.-Yes. sir. was warden of 395.
Q.-Were you ever obligated in this
order?
A.-No sir.
Q.-Isn't it a matter of fact that the
oath was administered to you?
A.-No, sir.
Odd you ever stand in the posi-
ton of the order, with one hand on
one part of your anatomy and the
other on another, and take the oath?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-Don't a member have to take that
peculiar .posftion2
Ave seen Charlie Holiday init
ate members without the ritual.
Q.-You say Charlie Holiday came
up to one of the Republican meetings
in the basement at the corner of Sew
enth and Kansas avenue2