The record-union., 1897-11-30

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said she wanted to do some cleaning
on Friday. June 25th, Mrs. Mack met
me at the door. She said:
I have Guldensuppe up stairs
Il asked her what he was doing
there, and she replied:
He is dead; have shot him.
''She then requested me to help her
to dispose of the corpse.
Il went up stairs and helped to un-
dress the body. Then we carried it to
the bathtub I went out and bought
some plaster of paris. When I came
back she began cutting up the body.
When she reached the back of the neck
she cut through that portion with
small saw. Then she cut through the
middle of the body, and then l asked
her why she cut SO. She replied:
!" / know enough not to cut through
the bowels
Next, she cut off the legs, after
which she went out for awhile, as it
was very warm there On her return
we incased the head in the plaster of
paris. We brought away the dead
mans clothes in a bundle and / car
rfed the head in another bundle. The
saw, knife and revolver were in the
bundle with the clothes We took the
car to the Ninety-second-s ferry,
over which we crossed to New York.
l threw the head overheard while the
boat was crossing the river Then we
went to Mrs. Nack's house on Ninth
avenue, where we burned the clothes in
the cooking stove'
The witness then told of the surrey
ride on the following day, and of the
disposition of the other portions of the
remains, which were wrapped up in oil
cloth, cheese cloth and paper, which
Mrs. Mack had purchased prior to her
visit to the cottage on June 25th, the
day Of the killing
Thorn told of his meetings with the
woman after this, and how Mrs. Mack
had made preparations to go to Europe.
Mrs. Mack met him on Tuesday night,
June Both, and the following day he
learned from the papers that she had
been arrested.
He explained his conversation with
Gotha. He said that he had told Gotha
that Mrs. Mack killed Guldensuppe,
and also told the barber how the body
was cut up and disposed of. He told
Gotha of his intention to give himself
up to the police, but Gotha asked him
to wait. He gave Gotha some pawn
tickets and made an appointment to
meet him on the following day. Thorn
kept the appointment and was arrest
ed. During his conversations with Cap
tain O'Brien, Thorn said he told the
detective some truths and some false
hoods.
During the time he was giving this
direct testimony Thorn looked directly
at the jury. He spoke clearly and dis
tinctly, although at times his voice
dropped to a rather low tone. He used
good English, with only Slight trace
or German accent. His direct eXamina-
ton lasted three-quarters of an hour
Surrogate Weller conducted the cross
examination
Thorn continued his story of the do
ings at the cottage on the day of the
murder the narrative not differing ma
teTlally from the accounts hitherto
printed, except that he admitted having
lied to Captain O'Brien as to his where
abouts on the day Of the killing. with
a view to establishing an alibi. He said
he helped Mrs. Mack undress Gulden-
suppe, but heard no groans and saw
nothing that would lead him to be-
lieve the man to be alive While being
cut up.
Mr.. Weller in several ways tried to get
the principal witness to write his name
ON a sheet of paper. Mr.. Howe OBJ
Jected, and was sustained by Justice
Maddox
As to the hiring of the cottage. Thorn
was closely questioned He gave
false name and business to the propri-
etor of the cottage, because Mrs. Mack
did not want anyone to know that he
was living with her. Later on he said
Mrs. Mack accompanied him to the
cottage the day be paid the rent.
Thorn said that Mrs. Mack gave him
the gold watch and chain the day after
the killing. 1t had belonged to Gull
densuppe. Thorn could not say how
Mrs. Mack got the oil cloth and other
stuff to the cottage, when she only got
the keys from him on the night of
June oath. She must have brought
them with her when she brought Gull
densuppe to the cottage that morning.
June 2oth. Mrs. Mack left the cottage
about O'Clock, and came back an hour
later. They then took two of the par
GELS with them.
Thorn said that Mrs. Mack suggested
that they get something to end their
lives with. Thorn in letter said he
had a prescription which. if 1t could be
filled, would end his life He did not
wish her to die. He wanted to see her
free.
You We're willing to die yourself, and
save the woman?" asked Mr.. Weller.
ciy - i'll tha
her, and was willing to die for her.
The prosecution seemed taken by sur
prise by Thorn's statement In this
letter, which never reached Mrs. Mack
as it was captured by the officers.
Thorn said:
IF there is no other way out of it,
I will see to it that / shall only suffer,
and you Will go free"
When Thorn left the stand the de-
fense rested
Mrs. Kelly was recalled, and said
she saw Mrs Mack leave the cottage
about twenty minues after she had gone
in with man with light suit on. She
saw Thorn enter the cottage about II
O'Clock.
Three witnesses testified to seeing
Mrs Mack at her home on Ninth ave-
Hue III tHiS CITY On the alleTIloOH VI
June 25th
This closed the case for the people
and the defense
The court adjourned for the day.
Six Business Houses Burned.
MUNCIE Gnd), Nov. 29-The town
of Farmland was threatened with total
destruction by fire. but the Muncie Fire