Evening star., 1897-05-13
DISCUSS!NGCHAP
Mr.. Aliens Resolution Taken Up in
the Henate.
Mr. DANIEL WANTS IT MODIFIED
Sensation Caused by the Remarks
Of Mr.. TiIIman
A SCENE IN THE HOUSE

The Senate today agreed at the outset
| Of the session that the adjournment be
| until next Monday.
The Allen resolution relative to bringing
Eiverton r. Chapman to the bar of the
senate was taken up as soon as the rou-
tine business was out OF the way. Mr..
| Allen said he desired to present some ad-
dltionai facts bearing on the subject He
| said the Senate should. in justice to itself.
| take this matter in hand and deal with It
promptly. He could understand. he said.
the anxiety Of Chapman to shield those
around him from tho consequences of the
sentence.
But as the representatives of seventy
| million of people," proceeded Mr.. Allen.
we cannot afford to permit Mr.. Chapman.
| the representative of a powerful organiza-
ton, which, it has been charged, exercises
| whipped" e0
The discussion assumed legal and tech
meal phase. Messrs Faulkner (w Val.
White (CaL) and Spooner CWis.) arguing
| on the law applying to Chapman.
MI Hoar moved to refer the resolution
to the committee on privileges and cleo
tions.
Mr.. White argued that the pardoning
| power was exclusively an executive func-
suggest methods to the executive or to
curtail that power.
| answering question of Mr.. Allen. Mr.
White said the right of the Nebras ska sen-
ator to urge this resolution was not Ques-
| TONED. but 1t was a question of propriety
whether the Senate should trench upon
| executive power
Mr.. Allen replied rather warmly that on
questions of propriety he would assume
| the responsibility.
Mr.. Daniel (Va) proposed a modification
| OF the resolution so that all reference to ex-
ecutive clemency be struck out le aving
the resolution to require Chapman to ap-
pear before the Senate and purge himself
of contempt.
| Mr.. Pettus (Ala.) urged that the investi-
cation be opened fresh, requiring witness
es to appear and testify, instead of punish
! ing them for past misdeeds.
Mr. Chandler (N.H) asked why, If a
petition was being circulated in the Senate
| for the pardon of Chapman and senators
| were being importuned to sign 1t, it was
not proper to consider a resolution on the
! subject. Was 1t necessary. he asked. that
| a petition in remonstrance be prepared?
| Mr.. White answered that anything in the
| line of remonstrance could better be made
| 10y personal appeal or letter rather than as
| the act of the Senate seeking to direct the
course of the executive.
When Mr.. TiIlman Is. c. eadeavored to
| question Mr.. Chandler the latter suggested
| that the South Carolina senator observe the
| rule of sitting down during the reply.
When you play ball you always stand
up" said Mr.. rillman, amid laughter. MIR.
Chandler went on to say that if there were
any senators who had engaged in specula-
| tion Of sugar stock-which God forbid Is
| the case-then four years have obliterated
| the evid ence The old investigation had
| failed; the tree had fallen and it ought to
| lie. 1t would De a preposterOuS proposition,
| he said, after the tribulations of the COM
| mittee of the courts and of the newspaper
PRESS that the witness Chapman should
\ be pardoned. Mr.. Chandler said he could
| not conceive that any executive should
grant such a pardon. 1t would establish
that. after conviction. and the conviction
sustained by the United States Supreme
| Court. the accused can go to the White
House and get a pardon, could come to
the Senate to be relieved of the conviction.
such lame and fmpotent conclusion would
come from the investigation.
Senator Tfllman of South Carolina made
a sensational speech in the course of the
debate on bringing Chapman before the
| bar of the Senate. He said the Senate
should not go after Chapman. but should
| learn whether senator's had speculated in
| sugar stock. There were published charges
| he said, that senators had speculated In
| sugar stock within the last week Instead
| of looking to Chapman, he said the Senate
| might better call on Havemeyer and other
| sugar trust grandees.
Referring to the last investigation. he
| said: I'VE want to know whether our COM
| mfttee was bought. and punish them and
the men who bought them"
| Correspondents Charges.
1T seems to me-" said Mr.. Til,man, that
we are not after Chapman; that the origi-
nal investigation was not intended TO pun
| fsh Chapman. but to discover whether any
senator on this floor had been guilty of
| using his official position to make money
by speculation in stocks which were in
| huenced by his action as senator on the
committee which reported the tariff bill
! 1t Is not worth while to try to cover I'D
! this matter with badinage and fiippance
| The senator from New Hampshire Will ex-
| cuse me. l do not intend that as any re-
| hectfon upon his language, but it does ap-
pear to me that he treated it rather flip
| PANTY.
| There are today in the newspapers of
this country charges floating about and be-
ing sent broadcast. signed by correspond
| ents OF the gallery. to the effect that last
week. when the new tariff bill was re-
| ported with a change in the sugar schedule
stock.
We have another stencil on our hands.
and instead of 1T being a differential in
laVor OF the trust of q third of a cent as
mat was, 1t Is now two-thirds in favor of
| the trusts.
There are two correspondents who have
over their own signatures charged that
senators nave sDeculated within the last
week and made money. Now, If you want
| to investigate, you have new reason to
| investigate. "
II you intend to get at the true inward
ness OF the matter, to get at the truth and
70 punish those who are guilty, say SO and
DO so. or else hush. That is the whole sum
ana utstance of 1t. We do not want
Chapman. We want Havemyer.
AT O'Clock tie Cuban resolution went
over until 2 o'clock Tuesday at the re-
quest OF Senator Morgan.
The debate on the Chapman resolution
proceeded. Senator Gray, chairman of the
0uff fnew
work. 10
The Chapman resolution was referred
| without division to the judiciary commit
| tee, and at 2:25 pm. the Senate went into
| executive session.
HOUSE.
The question Of the regularity of the pro-
| gram under which the House is proceed
Ing was raised today by Mr. Wheeler (Ala-).
and led to debate. Mr.. Wheeler objected to
the approval Of the journal, on the ground
that the rule adopted week ago for two
| meetings weekly. and which allows the
House to adjourn for three days without a
quorum. was unconstitutional, being an at
tempt to do indirectly what could not be
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