Delaware gazette and state journal. (Wilmington, Del.) 1883-1902, 1897-05-06

l have mentioned. l mover mentioned
any namas at all.''
Did l ask you for my specified sum
of none, ~ asked Mr., Pyle ''Or did
! say | wanted money for anything /
did for that bjlIf?
You snid it would cost from $1,000
to 81, 500 to get that bill favurably CON
adhered, but you said You did not want
it for yourself, - Mr. Hoffecker replied.
g ! don't remember that, said Sena-
tor Pyle.
"Did Senator Pyle give that as his
opiniun as TO the amount of money that
would BIO required to pass the bill, or
did be ask you for a fec" asked John
d. Hawkins, Mr.. pyle's attorney.
What no intended ] oannot sny
only what ! have said in answer 10
questions asked.
" His reply afterwards was send the
bill along and will see what we can
do for ii. wasn't itY''
That was after the second inter.
view. 1t was part aud parcel of tho
conversation which took pluce on March
9th, when we again had discussed the
amount of money. and when said that
Mrs. Cause said she would not touch
a divorce tinted with bribery | then
made the remark that / would see the
whole outfitip hotter place than this
before l would pay anything 10 got the
bill through. !"
what was your object in sending
for members OF The Legislature to come
to your officei" asked Mr.. Hawkins.
'To find out whether il was SO that
money would have to TO used,o was
the reply.
Did you have any conversation with
Mr. Mccullough after the time he met
you at your o!fice?o Mr.. Lyman asked.
None That recall" was the reply.
IL bias been suggested that | met him
on the street; IL gu, il was nothing
moro than TO say how do you dor -
Mr.. Hotfecker said Messrs. Pyle and
Mccullough called on the same day.
How long was IL between his leaving
and Mr.. Mccullough coming in?"
asked Mr.. Lyman.
mot more than four or five minutes
had elapsed" Mr.. Hoffecker replied.
He stated that they were alone in the
room.
"Do you remember the first thing
you said to Mr. Mccullough" Mr..
Lyman inquired.
ITO the best of my recollection, I"
for him to talk over the Cause divorce
case. / had been told by prominent
politicians L was going to meet with
opposition regarding that bill. and had
taken the liberty to ask him to come
and see me about being told that !
would have to spend money to get 1t
through. l had related in substance
what had taken place between Senator
Pyle and mysslf."
"What did Mr.. Mccullough say first,
II you remember?'' asked Mr.. Lyman.
1.-THE fret question asked him after
| had gotten through" said Mr.. IIof-
fecker, "giving him all that Senator
Pyle had snid, excepting the figures.
which / was careful to keep. asked
him what his figures were, and be
asked me what the old man. had said.
l understood him to mean what he
would want individually himself
said that i had been told by certain
politician that IL would cost me Ger.
tam amount of money to get IL through.
lie asked me what figures the old man
had asked"
you didn't say what figures Seua-
tor Pyle bad given?" asked Mr.. Lyman.
81 parted that for n moment because
i wanted TO know what his figures
were. " replied Mr.. IIotfeckor. "Io
the best of my recollection the SUBJ
stance OF what he said was Such mat
tiers aR that were costing money, and
that this was no exception, but the
rulo. Ho said it would cost me from
81, 900 to 81, 500. Afterwards / said
Then you and Senator Pyle neree as to
figures. There was 10 specification as
to how the money would be used.'
WAS there any further conrorsa-
tion?" asked Mr., Lyman,
81 think only in general way" was
the reply. 1T WIS all over in 10 or
10 minutes. -
"Do you remember meeting Mr..
Mccullough on Market street near
Ainscow's, asKed Mr.. Lyman, "whiie
he was talking with a gentleman, and
aeking him whom you could soc the full
divorce committee, rs you would like
to have talk with them?''
81 am NOT positive" said Mr.. Hof-
fecker. 1T seems 10 me that while
going TO the bank / saw him on the
east side talking to several gentlemen.
1t seems to me that he accosted me or
l accosred him, but whether near
Ainscows or not cannot say"
''Do you recollect the evening on
which you met Senator Pyle and Sena
ture Eenimoro, that you also sent for
Mr.. Mccullough, who was engaged in
game Of cards, to come into the
House with your" asked Mr.. Lyman.
"No, sir, said MIR. Hotfecker. 81
did not see him on that occasion, 1t
WINS on the occasion of my first visit
hero that Mr.. Mccullough was playing
cards in the back room, but whether
no afterwards joined us in the Senate
near Senator Pyle's desk cannot say
positive, but ! think he did. asked
him to come in.
Didn't you request Mr.. Mccullough
TO give you the names of the divorce
committee and what evening you could
he able to meet the committee at
Dover?" asked Mr.. Lyman.
"Yes, sir" Mr.. Hoiiecker replied.
"What occurred on March 9th?" Mr..
Lyman asked.
II had my second interview with
Senator Pyle" witness replied.
Tho gentleman mentioned stated
that it would cost so much to get this
divorce case through?' Mr.. Lyman
asked.
Yes" was the reply.
They didn't shy they wanted this
money for themselyss?" asked Mr.
Lyman.
mo, Mr.. Pyle said particularly that
he did not want 1t for himself,n Mr..
llotfecker replied. at was on March
9th, II days after that, that the pro-
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