The sun., 1897-07-04

tno nuppOfB OF y CcFIhiu man, NNu NOltieau" :
power until somo new combination Of groups Do !
effected. which deprives him OF n majority ana
brings about his overthrow.
THUS tho same Chamber which had sup
ported Crispi for years by large majority. gave
Rudini, his rival. a stlll larger ono, and the
Chamber recently elected, with Ministerial
majority O. about two hundred, mny tomorrow
DO found supporting Signor Rudini's most active
rival. During the election every candidate de-
clarcs himself Mlnisterialst in order 10 obtain
tho assistance Of tho Government, hut onco
elected he feels no obligation to vote in support
OF tho Ministry. and his constituents nrc
profoundly Indifferent to the course which
he pursuca The interesting feature Of tho Ital.
ian elections WAS not tho fact that Ministerial
majority was rcturned-for that is always tho
result OF Italian clections-but In the eNtraor
dinary and unexpected growth OF tho Socialist
vote. Tho Marquis di Rudini during tho cam
palyn regarded Signor Crispi MS his only formid-
able antagonist, and he appeared TO be exercised
chiefly as to the number OF CrispianB who would
be returned When the result WAS declared, 1t
was found that the Crispian group was almost
annihilnted. while the Socialist vote had grown
to startling proportions in tho electoral colleges,
especially those which sat in the more prosper
| ous cities OF the kingdom"
ITO what do you attribute tho vote Of the
| Socialistsi"
WOULD BE SOCIALIST IN ITALY.
| "ln discussing this subject with signor Rudini
surprised him by saying that II wcrc voter
| in Italy would support the Socialist party.
Everywhere in Italy tho cost Of living is unwar-
rantahly high, owing to the cruelty oppressive
| taxation imposed for the support OF huge
| army. This army is utterly unnecessary for
purposes OF defence, since no power covots foot
| OF italian soil, and. matter Of fact 1t has
been used for wild and extravngant enterprises
| Of conquest in Africa. The withdrawal Of 30
| many men from the paths Of industry in the
very flower OF their youth and productive ca
| pacity 10 a loss to the country vastly greater
| than the amount wrung directly from the pco-
| pie for the maintenance of this military cstab
| lishment The net result of this vicious system
Is that each laborer In Italy Is compelled to sup
| port two men-himself and a soldier. Now, q
socalistic government is essentially benevolent
| In its intentions, though. in my Judgment, It
| would be wasteful and injurious In operation.
| But as between q government which became
wastetul through an abortive or ill.considered
attempt to benefit men. and government
which was deliberately oppressive I would pre-
| fer that one which was at least animated by
| benevolent intentions.
| "The Marquis di Rudini is very intelligent, q
very conservative, and very courageous man.
| After had left Rome / was greatly pleased to
| learn that his Government took strong ground
in favor OF evacuating the African country,
| where grave disasters had overtaken the italian
armies, and that he had obtained the support Of
the Chamber for his enlightened and conserve
tive policy. 1t requires e good deal Of courage,
as once heard prominent italian statesman
| say, to oppose policy of territorial expansion
| among people who have had lust Of conquest
in their blood for twenty-siN centuries, but
| firmly believe that whoever would have the
courage to speak the truth would hnd In Italy as
| elsewhere, that the common people had an un-
| erring instinct for honesty and immovable re-
spect for candor. In my judgment. the italian
statesman who shall have sufficient courage to
tell the italian people that they must choose
| between bread and soldiers, because they cannot
have both; that IL they want large armies they
must be satisfied with less bread. will awaken a
general and deep popular interest which will
create public opinion strong enough to
dominate the Chambers. and which may ulti-
mately infuse q breath Of constitutionalism
into the constitutional structure, which has re-
mained an empty form since the establishment
| of the Italian monarchy.
IMPRESSIONS OF CECIL RHODES.
did you meet many prominent people in
Romei'' ~
"Yes; met nearly all the italian statesmen,
but the most interesting person there during my
visit was Cecil Rhodes. the late Premier Of Cape
Colony"
What is your opinion Of himf'
"I think he is q very able hnancier or pro-
moter at present engaged in tho business OF
statesmanship. He Is an enthusiastic believer
in the federation of the British empire. and en-
thusiasm is often more powerful force for pro
ducng results than carefully trained capacity
Great as Rhodes's fortune may be, believe ht
would deliberately risk every penny of 1t ir
order to advance his imperialistic notions. Per
sonally he is q most amiable and attractive
though rugged and somewhat masterful man.
From Rome did you go direct to Englandr
mo, visited Vienna and witnessed the very
interesting religious ceremonies at the imperia
palace, and also the review of about 20.
900 troops by the Emperors of Germany ant
Austria. The holy week ceremonies In Vienna
especially those In which the Emperor takei
part, are gorgeous and the most interesting IL
the world. but description Of them woult
swell the account Of this conversation to unrea
sonable lengths"
"You did not remain in England for tho tu
bilee r.
mo, but remained long enough to thor
oughly understand the character of the demon
stration.''
"was It as imposing as tho newspapers de
scribe itf'
| 1 CANNOT say anything ab 10 No sconlc cHocte
since did not witness It, but the whole tone o
tho celebration was disappointing to me.
WAR SPIRIT OF THE JUBILEE.
Civilization is indebted to England for tw,
Of its most important features: n system o
Jurisprudence embracing the habeas corpus ant
tho trial by jury. and system OF Representative
or parliamentary government. In the lat
jubilee everything representative of the judci
! AIRY or of the Parliament was carefully excluded
The two forces which made England's greatnes
were ignored. Tho Judges and both house
of Parliament were spectators of tho pa
rade. but not participants in It. 1t wa
only and solely q display of tho mill
tary and naval power of tho empire
The reception given to the colonial Premier
was not intended to illustrate the expansion o
tho empire through peaceful colonization, bu
1t was an attempt to overawe the world by tn
suggestion that these colonies, in case of war
would contribute to the strength OF EnglIs
armies To this military idea everything wa
subordinated. The spirit OF jingoism was ram
pant everywhere 1t Ia said that this was sim