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The Monitor-register., 1897-02-05
ADMINISTRATORS SALE
OF
HOUSE AND LOT .

Situated in the village of Sharptown, N. j.
The undersigned Adm. cum. test. anx. of
Michael Garvey, decd, will sell at public
sale, in front OF the Court House, Salem, on
SATURDAY, JANUARY 80, 1897
Between the hours of IL and O'Clock, p. M,
all the following described house and lot OF
land situate on Church street, in Sharptown,
N. j., where the late Michael Garvey lived
Beginning at a corner on the northeast
side of Bridge or Church street, a corner of
late Benjamin Morgan's lot, along which lot
1t runs north 4214 degrees, east chains to
corner of George W. Barton's lot, thence
along said Barton's and Oliver RiIey's lots
north Az degrees west chain and IL links;
e+hence south 42A degrees west 8 chains toa
corner at said edge or side of said street;
thence along the edge or side of said street
south 47A degrees east chain and IL links
to the beginning, containing 33-100 of an
acre, more or less.
This property is desirable for any one
wishing home. The house is In good re-
pair and contains eight rooms. new barn
Is on the premises and very large and fine
vegetable garden. Any one wishing to see
the property can call on Mrs Carry Donegan
who is new living in the house.
Conditions at sale.
j. FORMAN SINNICKSON,
Adm illustrator cum. test. anx., of Michael
Garvey, decd.
Dated Dec. 30, 1896. IL
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Gloucester County courts.

The February term of the Gloucester r
County Courts convened on Tuesday
with Justice Garrison presiding. The
Grand Jury drawn was as follows:
Joseph B. Roe, foreman; John 81. Brown,
James B. Jessup, John Redfield, Thomas
W. Synnott, George II. Sharp. Philip
Focer, David w. Moore, James Hunter,
George E. Reading. William FL. Wolf,
William T. Cooper. G. s. Downs, Isaac
Downs, Alfred Lippincott, Joseph Mob
lit, William F. Buck, Alfred r. Handle,
Rudoldh Knisell, Joseph Munyon, George
Meley, Isaac FL. Wealth erby and G..
Fletcher Myers. They returned six bills.
Judge Garrison said there were no
special matters that needed any charge
from the court and the jurors then re-
tired for deliberstion.
After an experimental call of the list.
the supreme issue joined between the
Vineland National Bank VS.. Burton B.
Smith and Melissa Smith, his wife, was
moved for trial. After the introduction
of numerous deeds and mortgages,
showing the property under litigation to
have been heavily encumb bered for years,
counsel for the plaintiff requested the
court to instruct the jury to render YER
dict for the plaintiff, with costs. The
Court, however, was of the opinion that
technical question of possession was
involved, the plaintiff having failed to
adduce evidence to show visible posses
sion. After legal parley the Court con-
sidered the issue mere matter OF fact,
which it decided to adjust after a review
of the papers involved.
The case of Thomas Whitaker, receiver
for the insolvent Millville Marine and
Fire Insurance Company, VS.. Joseph
Higgins, was moved. The issue is Joined
on contract on the refusal of numerous
policy holders to pay the assessments,
and it's disposition will affect batch of
similar issues on the list. Lawyer Gran
dali, for the defendant, asked for a CON-
| tinuance because of the failure of counsel
| for the other side to answer interroga-
tories. Counsel for the plaintiff init
mated that the defence were resorting to
strategy to secure delay, aud in reply
Mr., Crandall said "I'll wave the interro-
gatories, with the privilege of contina-
anoe," but finding himself making con-
cessions to the plaintiff, he quickly re-
tracted and calculated: "No, Pll do
nothing of the kind. They made things
hot, and only responded with profess
sional celebrity" The Court concurred
in the motion of the defence and the
case went oE for the term.
| The case of the receiver vs.. George
Meley, was next moved, and after con-
sultation with the Court, counsel ac-
quiesced to an adjournment of the hear.
| ing in order to give both sides an oppor-
tunity to agree to the state OF the case,
and a record was made to the effect that,
| in so far as the questions involved-aE
applicable to or control the other cases
| this case shall be made a test one. Judge
| Garrison set Saturday, 18th instant, to
hear the argument of counsel in Camden.
Judge Clymer announced that he
would sit on Friday of next week to hear
the appeal cases and dispose of such
other matters as would present them
selves at that time.
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SEbASIlAN Inv A.
j. M. Weatherby, Auctioneer.
C. Ii. Richman, Clerk.

Also. at the same time and place, two good
colts. No. l, light bay mare, coming Years
old, sired by Indian, dam mare by Ameri-
can Jackson; No. Q. sorrel mare, coming
dam. Conditions made known at sale by
MICHAEL CALLAHAN.
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Executors Notice.

VOHN II. TURNER, Executor of Annie G.
J Bishop, deceased, by direction of the
Surrogate of the county of Salem, hereby
gives notice to the creditors Of the said
Annie G. Bishop, deceased, to bring in their
debts, demands and claims aga nst the
estate of the said decedent, under oath Or
date hereof, or they will be forever barred
OF any action thereof against the said Exec
utor. JOHN d. TURNER,
Dated Jan. q. '97 2m Executor.
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Cir a}youitor- -geglster
v Esr JERSEY Rail ROAD TIMETABLE e

" ES L } ERSE1 RAIL ROAD I1MH H1ADLE
ON AND AFTER SEPT Ss, 1896,
Trains leave WooDsToWN as follows:
For Philadelphia and way stations, at 7.04
7.5S and 9.27 a. m, 1913, 4.30 and 607 p. m.
on sundays, 735 a. M, 437 p. m.
Arrive in Philadelphia, $50. 900 and 1880
a. M. I,3o, $50 and 7.20 p. m. Sundays,
9.05. a. m. and 500 p. N.
For salem, 1884, 1921 u. m, and 12.ls, 2.4S, 5l4
and 6.57 .. N.
On Sundays, $50 a. ln., SAG p. m.
For Bridgeton via Woodbury., 7.5S a. M,
43J, p. N.
Sundays, I S5 q. m. and 4S7 p. M.
RETURN TRAINS.
Trains leave Philadelphia for Woodstown at
$40, $50 and 100 "a. M, l.3O, 4.lO, $40 p. m
Sundays, SIS Il. M, $50 p. m.
CONNECTING RAILROADS.
For Atlantic City, 7.04 a. m. Sundays, 7.35
q. m.
For Cape May, 7.5s a. N. Sundays, 7.35 a. m.
For sea Isle ana ocean City, 7.5S a. N. sun
days, 7.35 a. III. m
For Vinelaud and Milville, 7.5S a. m, 4.5O
p. m. sundays, 7.S5 a. M.
5. Nj. PROVOST, j. r. WOOD,
General Manager Gen. Pass. Agt.
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pennsxilie RECORD.

Miss Annie Jaquette, of Salem, Is visit
ing her sister, Mrs. Joel jenkins.
Finbank's wharf was swept away by
the ice and heavy wind during last Tues
days storm. ~a
About twenty five friends and relatives
of David Ecret gathered at their home
last Monday afternoon and helped them
celebrate the 25th anniversary of their
marriage.
The following is the list of unclaimed
letters remaining in the Pennsville post
office for the month ending Jan. 81 !:
Frederick Hawn, s. s. Lewis and Rev.
A. M. Paterson. -
Quite number of residents are on the
sick list, among them being: Samuel
Lecroy, Mary E. Wheaton, Mrs. VIM. A.
Davis, Samuel @. Davis, VIM. Acton,
Mrs. Clifford Crispin and Miss Lena
Davis.
At the fishermen's meeting last Satur-
day evening Richard ID. Batten, Jos.
Fogg and Samuel P. Elwell were chosen
to transport the fish to market the COM
ing spring at the old rate of Q cents each.
H. W. D. White was chairman and
Philip Cromwell Secretary of the meeting
Mr.. Kerrison M. Davies, of this place,
has purchased the canning factory at
Sharptown. Mr.. Davies is the son of
John K. Davies, who is foreman in Fogg
& Hires factory here, and has thorough
experience in the business, and we feel
sure that he will mako a success of his
undertaking.
The reviva, continues with great
interest. About twenty persons were
taken into the church on probation.
Next Sunday morning, after brief
sermon by the pastor, the sacrament of
the Lords supper will be administered.
Evangelist Dolbow is still here. The
services will continue while the interest
burps
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no Won nance To.Nseht.

Shake into your Shoes Aliens Foot-Ease, a
powder that makes tight or new shoes easy.
Cures Corns, Chilblains and Sweatening Feet.
At druggists and Shoe Stores 25c. Sample
FREE Address Allen S. Olnsled, LeRoy,
N. ~
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SALE REGISTER.

Feb. n-C s. BiddIe s. Son, Halltown
Feb l5-Wm. K. Richman, near Yorktown.
Feb. l6-Emlly g. Huber, between Swedes-
Feb. lS-Asa l.. Colscn, near Sharptown.
boro ana Centre square.
Feb 23-Sabastian LauX, on Clawson farm,
ntaI Woodstown
Feb. 24-David Sparks, near Sharptown.
Feb. 2G-Frank humphreys, near Woods
town
Mar. I-Mrs. Clemence A. Bassett, Piles
grove.
Mar. l6-Charles Hannah, Warrington.
Mar. LION Webster, near Woodstown.
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Miss Ida Fox, of Philadelphia, is visit.
ing her sist er, Mrs. George w. DorrelL
Ten persons were received into the M.
E. Church on probation on Sunday morn.
lug. Il
John W. Dunham and wife are visiting
Mr.. and Mrs. Howard Thomas, at
Moorestown, N. ]. 5f 10y
Belford Ayres and wife, Of Bridgeton,
are visiting Mrs. Ayres' father, lssae
Evans, who is sick.
Samuel Ray filled his ioe-house on
Saturday, and on Monday John w. Dun
ham commenced filling his.
Edward Roork has purchased of Mary
81. Even one of the houses and lots on
Canal street which she bought at the sale
of the real estate of James Reeves,
deceased. a4a
Our esteemed citizen. Isaac Evans,
generally known as Uncle Ike," was
stricken last week with something like
paralysis, and is entirely helpless, being
unable to move hand or foot. --'
Mine Host Benjamin Tuft killed two
hogs last Wednesday that weighed 1921
pounds There was guessing box in
connection with it, which was won by
Mr.. Tuft on guess of 1910 pounds.
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@arrfed.

PAULDING-COLEs-A the residence of
Mrs. Lydia l.. Coles, in Woodstown, Feb. 4,
1897, by Rev. F. j. Collier, d. D., Moses j /.
Paulding, of Daretown, and Gertrude NJ.
Coles, of W oodstown.
INGRAM-WELCH-In Woodstown, Feb
4, 1897 by Rev. G. g. Senser, Mr.. H. Walter
Ingram and Miss Susie e. Welsh, both of
W WOodstown.
KINCA1D-W WATSON.-AtR Jan
uary 2lst. by Rev. John l.. Watson. James
T: kincaid, of Pitman Grove, and Mary l..
Watson, of Redwood.
WEATHER BY-HAMPTON.-Att the resi-
dence of the brides parents, Jan. 20, 1897, by
Rev. e. Conner Hulse, MIR. Thomas Wealth
erby,. Jr., to Miss Mary Hampton, both OF
PedricktOwn
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Mrs. Mary Pate is quiteseriously II.
Rev. J. B. Turpiu took trip to
Atlantic City on Thursday.
Robert Logan, one OF our wideawake
citizens, has been trying the experiment
recently of riding the goat for the K of
P. No doubt he enjoyed the exercise
immensely.
Mr.. aid Mrs. Asa Colson's little child
fell against the stove on Sunday and was
quite severly burned abont the head and
hands, aud on Monday the same mis-
fortune befell the little daughter of Mr..
apd Mrs. Nathan Kidd, but the latter
was not SO badly burned. Tae little tots
fell from standing in chairs.
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STATE OF OHIO, CITY OF TOLEDO, !
LUCAS COUNTY, co.

LUCAS COUNTY,
FRANK j. CHENEY makes oath that be
is the senior partner of the firm of F. J.
G HENEY & Co., doing business in the
City of Toledo, County and State afore.
said, and that said firm will pay the sum
of ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS for
each and every case of CATARRH that
cannot be cured by the use of HALLS
CATARRH CURE.
FRANK J. CHENEY.
Sworn to before me and su bscribed In
my presence, this 9th day of December,
A, D. 1886,
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Get our prices for Job Work. Neat
work and low prices.
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Henry Monorief has been able to be out
again.
Mrs. Richard Fox is on the sick list.
but is improving.
We are sorry to learn that Joseph
Horner is again quite poorly.
Alfred Lippincott continues quite sick,
with but little change for the better.
Hugh Grimshaw still is under the ply
sician's care, being afflicted with chronic
diarrh ea.
Mrs. William Dubois has been quite
sick for week, but is improving at this
at this writing.
A goodly number of Grangers were
out on Wednesday evening, it being a
special occasion.
Mrs. Devanlt will not come to Harris
onville as was reported last week, but
will make her home at Eldridge Hill.
The farmers still have great many
sweets in their houses and cellars. Some
have fears OF finding sale for them, even
at the low prices.
Farmers are being more troubled with
their wells failing, as the time goes by
without the usual rains. Many have to
cart water for their stock or drive the
stock to the nearest watering place.
Mrs. Anna Tice, who has been su fer
ing from pneumonia for about ten days,
died at her home on Tuesday afternoon.
She was in her 71st year, aud had spent
me- ost of her life in this place. Mrs. Tice
has been a kind and loving mother and
faithful Christian, always attending the
services of the church when able in body,
the prayer meetings, and was regular
attendant at the Sunday school-surely,
mother in Israel has fallen. She leaves
husband and five children to mourn her
loss. The funeral was held to. day, With
interment in the M. E cemetery. ..
The ground hog on Tuesday was not
permitted to see his shadow. Being
somewhat careful of his health, he was
not able to come out from his hiding and
look around even, on account of the rain
storm that prevailed the entire day.
His hogship kept crouched near the
mouth of his burrow, apxiously awaiting
for look at Old Sol. None being
granted, the edict being that the back of
winter was broken. No doubt be might
have had other representations for 'S7,
most likely that there would be no change
in postmaster here; neither in the mail
carrier-unless some one is to be found
VINO Will carry lt Tree OF charge. With
much regret he went farther back in his
hole and will stay there until Febru-
ary 2, '9S, when no doubt he hopes to find
that Sweets" have gone back to old
prices, and other produce fair to good; :;
that farmers will have good year, every
body has work that wants it, the people
are able to build stone roads, and the
many other improvements that are
needed; taxes lower, the rate of interest
also lower, and that he may enjoy the
exquisite pleasure of seeing the trolley
for Harrsonville the next time he may
have sunny day, notwithstanding the
gloomy outlook as he makes his debut.
SharpIOwn News.
Mrs. Mary Pate is quiteseriously i II.
Rev. j. B. Turpiu took trip to
Atlantic City on Thursday.
Robert Logan one of our W ideaWake
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Mary Justice is on the sick list.
Mrs. M. Duggan is visiting in Philadel-
phia.
Aaron Webster moved to Salem, Tues
day last.
P. 8. Sweeten has been visiting friends
in Greenwich.
Mrs. B. Hayes visited her daughter in
Philadelphia last week.
Robert Munyon, of Gibbstown, spent
Sunday with his family here.
Mrs. 81. Sweeten and daughter Mary
spent Monday in Philadelphia.
Our postmaster and wife are all in
smiles. They have good rea- son.
Miss Carrie Hortman, of Poplar Grove,
spent Saturday with her parents here.
Miss Fannie Vanzant spent Saturday
and Sunday at her home in Bordentown.
Orval spent Saturday and Sunday in Phila
Harry Mitchell, of Woodstown, spent
Saturday with Jos. w. Cooper and wife.
Mrs. Fl. J. Hunt has returned home
after long visit with her daughter, Mrs.
Wilbert Beckett, of near Swedesboro.
Revival services in the M. E. Church
are still in progress, and next Sunday
there will be an all-day service, to which
all are cordially invited.
The Chrysanthemum Social Club was
entertained by Miss Emma Walker, Sat.
urday evening. Jan. 30Ch. All expressed
themselves as having delightful time.
Thomas Doughteu. VINO has b4en a
severe sufferer for long time, passed
away Saturday morning. HIS funeral
took place on Wednesday. Services at
the NJ. E. Clutch interment at the
Friends cemetery.
Pedricktown Grange, Patrons of Hus-
bandry, installed their officers in Odd
Fellows Hall, January 81. 1897, District
Deputy Clark Fltcraft, of Woodstown,
being present. The following are the
officers Master, Arthur Fl. Green o yer
seer, Harry NJ. Green Lecturer, Benz
81. Straugheu Steward, Edwin D. N ,r.
ton Assistant Steward, Jas. G. Justice :;
Chaplain, j. K. Justice Treasurer, Mrs.
E. Cooper Secretary, Mrs. Frances H.
Holton Gate Keeper, Wilson L. Justice;
Pomona, Mrs Emma Sparks; Flora,
Mrs. Maggie Cooper (; Ceres. Miss Jennie
Green Lady Assistant Steward, Lavinia
Justice.
The Sunday school scholars of Richard
Corson and few friends surprised him
by calling on him Saturday evening.
Those present were Misses Anna Titus,
Flora Pickens. Sadie Doughten, Hannah
Titus, Matte Jordan, May Strimple, May
Titus, Fannie Pedrick. Tilie Cook, Ber-
tie Morrison, Rebecca Webster, Mrs. Ruth
Justice, Mrs. Edna Burk, Mr.. and Mrs.
James Morrison, and Mr.. John Jordan.
The evening was happily spent, and re.
freshments were served at II O'Clock,
consisting of ice cream and cake. The
scholars presented their teacher with o
very pretty teachers Bible.
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All the latest designs In neckwear you
will fnd at Grier g. Boone's.
Crawford avalanche. (Grayling, Mich.) 1879-19??, 1897-03-11

diplomatic corps entered, followed mo-
ment later by the chief justice and asso-
ciate justices of the Supreme Court. They
filed slowly down the aisle in gorgeous re-
gala and silken robes. The members of
the House of Representatives. headed by
Speaker Reed, then entered the chamber.
There was a stir of interest when Senate
officials announced the Vice-President-
elect Mr.. Hobart entered from the RICH,
door, bowed slightly to the standing SEN
ators and officials. and stepped TO the seat
near the presiding officers desk.
All this was but accessory to the ar
rival of President Cleveland and Presi-
dent-elect Mckinley. 1t was just 1920
when they entered the main doors. facing
the Vice-President and attention was riv-
eted at once on these two central figures
as they moved down the middle aisle. Mr..
Mckinley bowed to the presiding officer.
and, with Mr.. Cleveland. was seated i'm
mediately in front of the platform. facing
the Senate and the crowds.
On the left sat Major General Miles,
commanding officer of the army, and Ad-
miral Brown, senior officer of the navy.
both in full uniform. The members of
the outgoing cabinet were in a semi-crcle
TO the left. facing the outgoing and incom-
ing Presidents. On the opposite side Of
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the center aisle, in a semi-circle, were
Chief Justice Fuller and the associate
justices. The members of the House Of
Representatives filed the entire body of
the hall on the right side and on the OPP
posite area of the chamber sat the Sen
ators and Senators-eect.
AS the presidential party took their seats
Vice-President Stevenson rose and invit-
ed his successor to step forward and take
the oath of office. Mr.. Hobart advanced
to the desk. raised his right hand and took
the oath in accordance with the constitu-
ton. Mr.. Stevenson then delivered his
valedictory address.
The proclamation of the outgoing Pres-
dent calling an extra session of the Senate
having been read. President Hobart
requested tho new Senators to advance
and take the oath of Office. 1t was :03
D. m. when the last oath was administer
ed. and then the formal exit began. the
Supreme judges going first. then Mr..
Cleveland and President Mckinley, and
the other officials following.
Crawford avalanche. (Grayling, Mich.) 1879-19??, 1897-03-11

CONVICT TRAMP. IOrceu ldDor as 10
obtain momentary respite. And what
a fearful freedom 1t Is! A never end
ing struggle In a murderous climate,
with the tortures of hunger and con-
slant hiding from pursuit, to end In
finally being caught, put into irons and
sent back to the mines from which
he has escaped. Such is the career of
the "bradiaga." Sometimes a whole
life is thus spent in tramping, being
caught, brought back and running
away again, and so on until death lib
crates the unfortunate one from the
burden of life and society from dan
gerous pariah.
To discourage these frequent at
tempts at escape the government has
granted the lawful privilege to any
one Of either capturing or shooting
down the bradiaga on sight; and, in
fact, the Mongolian buriats In the Ir-
kutsk province make a regular BUSH
ness of hunting them just as they do
for the fur animals, as, according to
their calculation, the clofhesssf these
unfortunate wretches, however bad,
are worth more than five kopecks (2ia
cents, the price they obtain for the
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low rates desired by the manufacturer
that the committee Is now engaged.
A. b. CARSON.



Tho total increase of the. bonded In
debtedness during Cleveland's admins
tration Is $262, 315 400, on which there
Is nm annual interest charge OF $11 ,532,-
61t. The total interest upon 500, 000,-
600 of 8 per cent bonds issued, during
the ten years from their date that must
elapse before they are redeemable, Il
$50,000,0O0. Interest on So, 81, 400 Of
4 per cent bonds which are not payable
for thirty years will be $75,078, 480,
making the total interest that must be
paid on the earlier issues Of bonds $780,
07S.480, From this amount there must
be subtracted 9,O72, $40. premiums re-
ceived on the sale Of bonds, leaving a
balance Of $106 005, $40 The final bond
issues on thirty-year interest basis,
will run the amount of principal and In.
terest which the people must eventually
pay. to, nearly $500, 100000, in which
prodigious figure the cost of Cleve.
lands experiment with tariff reform"
will one day be expressed. ..f, /,
Is 1t any wonder that people were In
hurry last fall for change OF admin
istration or that the President-elect has
such next-to-unanimous support In his
purpose of calling an extra session.
San Francisco Chronicle.
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American" squirrel. While crossing
these buriat settlements the bradlaga Is
afraid to reveal himself, even for OBJ
taining food, and Is invariably forced
through hunger to commit theft.
Their mode Of attack is simple. Trav
elers are never molested in the day.
time. 1t Is only at night that these
blackguards attempt their nefarlous
work. The most dangerous hours are
between and a. M, when travellers
who have been on the qui vive all night
somewhat relax their vigilance. A
couple Of the thieves are told Off to
cut the traces of the tarantass. two
more to seize and bind the yemstchik
(accomplice or not, and three or four
others at the same moment to climb
over the back of the vehicle, and, fall
ing suddenly in front Of the hood, to
dispatch the passengers with a blow
from a heavy bludgeon.
In Yeneseisk and Tobolsk provinces
there Is sort of understanding be-
tween the villagers and the runaways.
The peaSo nta not only do not hunt the
bradiaga, but give them food and other
necessaries. The tramps, on their side,
even when in superior numbers, never
attack the inhabitants except In cases
where it is absolutely necessary to in
sure their own safety. Such mutual
concessions arise not only from habit,
but from mutual interest.
When on dark night (for the tramps
traverse villages only at night peas
ant is reused from his slumbers byi'a
loud knocking at the door and his ques-
ton Is answered, THE unfortunate
Ones" he runs to his storeroom, and.
getting food, throws 1t over the wall
as quickly as possible, without open
ing the gates or asking any explana-
ton. The recipients thank him and
as quickly withdraw.
One of the leading characteristics Of
the bradaga which distinguish them
from other murderers and freebooters
Is their complete Indifference and alb
sence of irritation and passion when
COMMUNICATED Of blood. But what
astonisheH one most Is the combina-
ton of the most hardened crime with
some religious lueuS, anu also u cer-
tain degree of humility, born Of severe
discipline Of hard labor of the, mines.
which produces show of pity toward
the victim they are destroying In the
most cold-blooded manner. r
INSTRUMENTAL the bradiaga Is one
Of the most unfortunate of beings--un-
consciously turns their thou hts towari
religion. In justification Of their crimes
they Invariably say, I'VE are poor sim