Evening journal., 1897-07-09
THORN'S STATEMENT
Story Told by the Alleged Muir
derer to tho Inspector
he DOES NOT ADMIT THE KILLING.
Says He Has Not Seen Guldensuppe Since
Early In Junc-Gives an Account
OF His Movements Since the
Crime Was Committed.

have been made by Martin Thorn, |
alias Torzews,si shortly after his cap |
ture in Harlem on Monday night.
The prisoner, who gave his age as 80 |
years and Posen. Germany, as his |
birthplace. said that he had not seen |
William Guldensuppe from the time Of |
the assault ct Mr.. Nacks rooms on |
Ninth avenue in February last Thorn |
admitted drawing revolver on that |
occasion, and during this scrimmage |
he claims the weapon was accidentally |
discharged. Guldensuppe, he says then
took the gun away from him and beat
him so badly with it about the head
that he had TO go to Bellevue hospital
for surgical treatment Several days
later Thorn says he sent John Car
tha to Mrs. Mack for his clothes. When
the messenger returned. he said that
he had met Guldensuppe at the fiat
and the latter had said that he was
sorry he had not killed Thorn. but that
if he ever met him again. even if he
had dozen men with him. he would
so for him.
Hadn't Seen Guldensuppe Since the Fight.
About three weeks after the fight
with Guldensuppe. Thorn says he wrote
to Mrs. Mack, which she answered in
person. From that time up to her ar
rest Thorn says he met the woman reg
ularly and by appointment in differ
ent parts Of the city, but on none Of
these occasions did he go with her to
the Ninth avenue house He says that
he sent for her at Bucks restaurant
on Tuesday evening, June %, and after
the meeting they went up 20 Central
park. where they remained Until II j..
m. While IN conversation tSere Thorn
says he told the woman about the find
ing of the part of the body of a man
in the East river on June 26 and the
suspicion that Guldensuppe had been
killed and his body boiled. Mrs. Mack
said that she did not believe Gulden-
suppe was dead. but that she had not
seen him since Friday morning and did
not know where he was. Next day
Thorn says he read in the newspapers
that Mrs. Mack had been arrested.
Going back to the days preceding
Guldensuppe's disappearance, Thorn
said:
"On Thursday, June "a, 1 was stop
ping at Maloney's hotel, corner Of Sec
ond avenue and Thirtynfth street. /
got up at o'clock that morning and
remained about the barroom for a
couple of hours. Then 1 went TO a sa-
loon at Eleventh avenue and Thirty
fourth street. and meeting q barber
named Carl we played penuchle there
until p. m. I met Mrs. Mack after
that at Eighth avenue and Thirty
fourth street, and we went to Central
park
Proposition TO Buy Barber shop.
There Mrs. Mack spoke to me about
leaving Guldensbppe and about buying
me a barber shop in the country.
..I~n 60. I,..rs oh. raTr for coll of
oyster Bay, L. I. Mrs. Mack had given
me money Off and on in sums Of about
50 and Sc at a time, and on one occasion
as much as 800. She told me that Gull
densuppe had been using her badly the
last six months and that he wanted
her to open a house of prostitution, and
then advised her to leave him and live
with me We left the park about 10
O'Clock that night. / parted from her
at Eighth avenue and Thrty-fourth
street and going to Maloney's hote
went 10 bed.
'On Friday morning, June %, 1 arose
about a. m. and went to the same sa-
loon on Eleventh avenue where I had
been the previous day. There I played
penuchle with Carl and others. ] refus,
to say anything further about that day
except that / went to Maloney's about
10 o'clock at night and retired IS min
utes later
II got up Saturday morning. June p
and went cut l know Gordon, th'
newsboy met me going over the Thir
ty-fourth street ferry with a woman
but 1 cannot remember what mornini
1t was.
The Talk About GuldeDsuppe's Murder.
Il met Mrs. Mack on Sunday evening
June 27. at the corner Of Thirly-fiftl
street and Eighth avenue about
o'clock We took an Eighth avenue ca
and went TO Central park and sat on
bench.
Il spoke Of Guldensuppe again. Sh
told me how she had been to Buck 6
and how Mrs. Miller asked her if sh
had heard from Willie yet and she (Mrs
Nacl) said, No She also told me hoy
she had sent Mr.. Buck over to the bath
to find out if Willie had shown up.
About 10 o'clock p. m. we left tn
park and went to Eighth avenue an
Fifty-ninth street and took an Eight
avenue horse car to Thirty-fourth stree
and Eighth avenue. / left her on thi
corner and went home TO sleep in Ma
loneys on Sunday night.
Il got out of bed on Monday morninl
June 9S. at about . o'clock. | refuse
say anything further Of my whereabou
that Qay.
Question by Captain O'Brien:
do you deny that you were in Fry
saloon on East Thirty-fourth street o
Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoo
and Tuesday night, playing cards wit
Peanut and Federer2'
Il do not exactly deny it,
do you remember being in Fry's 81
loon on Tuesday, June o. when Fec
erer was reading the newspapers in II
gard 10 the reward of $1,000 and no
Federer said to you, I guess that's yo
barber. and you said, Yes that
rght%"
yes
DO you remember being in the 81
loon on Tuesday, June %, and goir
out and coming back with woma
end having a glass Of beer each
tais saloon2"
Yes"
do you remember being In Fry's 81
loon on the night of Tuesday June .
and telling Federer that you We're 8
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