The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1897-11-17
NO NEW SEAL AGREEMENT.
THE EXPERTS AGREED, BUT THE
DIPLOMATS DID NOT.


rore the wnsh,nEton Conference.-The United
stated Contentious Upheld By the Experts-
Ne Chance OF y Reciprocity Agreement.
WARRINGTON, Nov. 18.-Atter q conference
lasting q week, the fur seal experts of the
United States, Great Britain. and Canada
reached a conclusion on several propositions
to-day, but tho officials who endeavored to ar
range the diplomatic features OF the mat
ter agreed to disagree, leaving tho seal.
Ing, reciprocity. immigration, fisheries. and
other questions lust where they were DO.
fore the Washington meeting began. A report,
embracing sixteen Of the numerous suggestions
made at the meeting of tho experts, was signed
this afternoon at the State Department, and
after this formality, Sir Wilfrid Laurier and Sir
LOWS Davies representing Canada, Gen. John
w. Foster representing the United States, and
Mr.. g. +. Frederick Adam, First Secretary of
the British Embassy, representing Great Britain.
had q three hours conference which did not
bring them to any basis on which a diplomatic
arrangement might DO made. The signing Of the
report of the experts marked the ending OF their
business. Sir Wilfrid Laurier and the Canadian
party will leave for Ottawa tomorrow morning
and all the others in attendance from out OF
town will 90 away in q day or two.
or the many propositions advanced by the ex-
perts on both sides the sixteen mentioned were
adopted unanimously. Most of them were made
by the experts Of the United States. An official
statement given to the press tonight shows that
the expert conference was confined exclusively
to facts concerning the purely scientific aspects
Of the fur seal question. Efforts were made to
induce the exports to 60 beyond that limit, but
without success.
They declined to consider anything outside of
the rulings OF the Paris Tribunal Of Arbitration
on the ground that they had no authority to go
into administrative matters. The discussions
were sometimes more animated than the charac-
ter of the topic considered would lead ono to
suspect, but the conference ended with the beat
Of feeling on both sides.
Although II has been arranged practically that
the joint commissi n Of experts shall mako
another inspection trip to the seal islands of
Behring Sea, there is a chance that this arrange
| ment may not be carried out. Its fulnlment
will depend on what the United States and
Great Britain decide to do. If an agreement IL
| reached between the two powers TO prohibit
will probably be sent in the following season to
determine, whether the temporary prohibition
hE Th ns rep 2 Ste ot the d ehs . es to en1 the fe"t c o1fers
embracing the sixteen propositions to which
Spantmo sn,, assent M.m WAS given q was signed by by
David Starr Jordan OF California, representing
the Government of the United States: Darcy
representing tho Government OF Great Britain.
and James Melville Macoun. representing the
propositions agreed to. as follows:
That the Pnbylov herd ha. declined in numbers
msriy three to ave times that which now exists.
than ah's ss ssf sff' @ ra oa.. ssiSsT .d R1Rs Z sf g ;i not . %S 81
,s Sss 4, = s ss%sss 20 e S sssss sna f ise.SSs. in md as &c. an; sss
ssssus so slSm not 1s be d se esSa wss ds nEsnsls: though Its
That land killing of males as now practiced does
n. n iImi.s az one eff The lava aRa' u pe'As'' 'eAie'' respect
That peiagic sealing involves indiscriminate killing.
That the catch at sea contains q marked excess Of
That the killing of males on land is the cause OF
That among the females killed arc not only those
i SHsn . snr:i on VINO ina hare Prss aiassaS Sq lost s's sRs %i pups wA0 are
That nn..ssssah the m fur Sc sss a, SsinS x p%SSly I%naoI,y! a large number
That females cannot be Killed in similar numbers
without checking the increase of the herd or bring
ih fh nSte a ANAL ma number OF females. less than the an.
nual increment OF breeders. might be taken without
That excessive pelagic sealing has led to a reduc-
That polagic sealing has of late fallen OF in greater
ratio than the herd has. this producing a tendency
THAT in estimating the future conditions of the herd
there must be taken into consideration the reduc-
peiasio catches of is0%-isSb.
That the herd !: not in M, danger ger S Of sctusl r satsrmt;
and the p]roteSted zone is malntained.
That both land and sea killing now yield an incon-
| Siderable pTOHt otu W u itboetb VI u II ptlhklO
seAlers themselves.
tsntio a10t Of the tinted states. that hat % exees sp",
pelaRio sealing has led to n reduction In the seal
herd. was accepted by tho British and Canadian
representatives. This is considered quite a VIC
win not have any practical effect unless the dip
lomatic negotiations which the State Depart
% %ers p Mt, i Sfsas aspect Ml,S than thah present ne, : e s%snsI3o 3
The conference this evening between Gen.
Hoafar Air Wifrid Sir Iewia and Mr. Adam
lasted three hours. Gen. Foster wanted the
British and Canadian repTesensasIvss 70 make
a si@e. p' ENC f sss'LRs lS aele 8 sss''a w tsSs'V Will i!
Unnited STATES would negotiate internationally
for a settlement nsnsIn., Of irr,t all the %, S auSsti.9nnis ions
c %@isa ns and pf Csn"da for mang SstWseh T in,s
wanted the United States to include in tho
proposition , fer 9 settlement 9 sncsnto Of the sealing 1pes'
nsheries and others. To this Gen. Foster would
not consent. He held that the sealing question
should be disposed of before anything else was
AT the conclusion of the discussion, no agree.
adjourned with the understanding that each
side should submit q statement In writing to-
morrow morning. giving Its views as to what
Tho United States statement will insist on
the tI%eSs,ssity Of mailing ~ , an a gre me for the ths
other propositions; Tho Canadian delegates
III O1PAOue - Nhss hhto hCkoLAuf
lions for O settlement of all questions at Issue,
without eurtailing consideration to the pelagiG
sealing feature.
1ThiSi s a distinct change Of front for both the
Eight years ago Mr.. Blaine, t on Secretary OF
State, made to Sir Charles Upper, then Cana
sition similar to Sir Wilfrid's now, but SI
Charles declined TO entertain 1t. The seal fish
tribunal OF arbitration resulted.
To-day's developments show, that Canada
which eight years ago declined TO consider O
proposition ofthe United States to have a gon
eraf settlement of matters which had causot
friction between the two countries, has made {
proposition similar to that of the United State
At that time, and this Government has adopted
Sir Charles Tupper's policy OF declining 70 ne
Rotiate an omnibus arrangement
The conference between Gen. Foster and tn,
British and Canadian representatives has de
veioped that the chances Of a reciprocity agree
lieye that the present temper Of The people Q
q reciprocal arrangement would not be re
tsined. Whstever negotiations may FOLLOW
be conducted nomlnally between Grea