The herald., 1897-12-08

and Hellman followed. I waited unit
ne had entered the building after he hat
Followed me there and then I went up.
stairs. He introduced me to Mr.. Davis
! SENT TO SEE HIM
| "On Thursday. think 1t was, I was ir
the board Of education office, and Sec.
retary Johnson said to me: You go and
see Hellman.' I did so, and as soon as
l entered his place he asked where
Johnson was. saying he had promised tc
be there. Johnson came in afterward
and so did Webb I had some business
at the high school and went up there
When I came back Hellman asked me
why had gone away, and told him.
fIe then asked where Savage was, and
then saw Savage in the front part OF
the store. We three went into the office
but just before doing so sHellman handed
me some money, which did not count
I1ellman then said in Savage's presence
We'll, pay him. Savage said he had
the notes, and asked him II they were
marked paid. He said no; that he would
so mark them, but he wanted the money
first. paid him the money, and Savage
wrote Paid over his name on the backs
of the notes and gave them to me. He'll
| man said he wanted them, and he got
them and kept them. never requested
Hellman to pay the notes for me. un-
derstood him to say he got the money
from Webb"
AXTELL'S EVIDENCE UNSHAKEN
That ended the examination-in-ch chief,
and Attorney oliver began the cross
examination. He started with Axtells
arrival in the city ten years ago, and by
questions brought out all Of the positions
that he had ever held here. From the
time Of his first connection with the
school department until the present, the
attorney went step by step. and'i regard
to each Of the boards of education he
asked Axtell whether he had paid for
his positions, to which the witness re-
sponded in the negative.
When the matter Of Axtelrs testimony
before the grand jury was mentioned the
witness said: "Mr. Oliver. what said
before the grand Jury Is the grand jury's
property. and II they want to disclose It,
1t is all right, but will not tell what l
said there"
This precipitated an argument as to
the right Of the attorney to ask euch a
Qu0otAOAl oil0 Al5Act oPOAl oil S1llS WcL .
Gibbon suggested, and the others agreed,
that an effort be made today to secure
a transcript Of the evidence before the
grand jury. not only Of Axtell, but of the
others who had appeared in the case as
we'll. Mr.. Gibbon stated that there
might be possibility Of securing this
from the district attorney. It was
agreed that the attorneys meet today
and make the effort.
AJOINT MEETING
Axtell related one incident that had
not been brought out in his direct ex-
animation. He was speaking Of the
fact that Adams and himself had had a
talk in the basement Of the Spring
street school the day before he confessed
and the attorney was trying to make
him admit that the confession was the
result Of that conference, but he de-
MED that the matter had been mentioned.
There were two other persons there for
a time" said Axtell. "They were Sec-
retary johnson and Mr.. Conrey. john
son came there and told me to see my
attorney that afternoon at o'clock. Mr..
Conrey told me that II 1t was convenient
he would like me to see Mr.. Gibbon at
2 o'clock. Mr.: Conrey was there only
about minute and johnson was there
longer than that: Adams was there
perhaps twenty minutes. went to see
Mr.. Gibbon as I had been requested to
do"
The rest Of the examination consisted
of questions as to matters that had al
ready been brought out. 1t was devel-
oped that Axtell's reason for Joining
Pitman's church was because of g. A.
r. relations with Brother" Pitman. and
that he had contributed $50 in all to that
church, including $50 to the building
fund.
At 1880 o'clock the session adjourned
until 1880 o'clock this evening, when the
Of Axtell will be resumed.
Jim" Hellman may be given an op-
portunity to tell what he knows Of the
case later in the week. 1t is also the
intention Of the prosecution to put Frank
Savage on the stand to relate the cir
cumstances about those notes. 1t is GER
tain that Axtell's testimony as to them
will be corroborated, as the dates Of the
notes correspond with the dates he gave
OF Webb's demand upon him for 5000
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