Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1897-12-11

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Birmingham with Mr.. Womnck?
A. I stayed there FIVE or six nights. and
believe after I got there every eve
ming we would take q game. we were
on from home. had little money ana We
Q. Have yon ever played at other times
with Mr.. Wornackf
A. At the old Exchange Hotel, sir, we
have played frequently.
9, Have you ever won any money from
x. have. and have loaned him none,
over the eQrd table.
@. i WI ask you this question:: You
say YOU are familiar with card tables
and usages-does Il ever occur that gen.
tlemen at cards. not having cash or
hand, give checks or pass checks 70 cover
their losses? DO they trust each other
az all?
they give checks--they Just give checks
Q. Either at the time or afterwards
A. Any time; they do not state the
consideration Of the check.
NO BUSINESS TRANSACTION.
Q. l understand you to say. to this
committee that those checks have no
connection with any business transaction,
and that you have had no transaction
with the American Book Company. with
J. w. Womack, it's agent. or with any
other book company or a aset question as
positively as can. And want to make
another statement with reference to the
session Of 1855. when i was here IN
the Legislature: The last session ] was
here / reckon / played less than have
ever done at any session, and from
March. 1896 up 10 this time. Mr.. Chair
man. I know j speak within BOUNDS. 1
have not played twice. l thought, when
got 70 be az old as | am. I renscteu,
and said perhaps ] ought to haul In my
horns: and l have two reasons-the first
Is. II is wrong--absolutely wrong; and
the second is, / know / have been forced
10 make this statement, that would
grieve my family more than anything
else in the world.
O. At the time of which you speak was
Mr.. Womack. so far as you know, gene
rally received and recognized as a gen.
tleman?
A. OF course he was. sir. Absolutely.
as far as know. hadn't heard breath
of suspicion against him; and repeat
sir when / heard a breath or suspicion
against him, and also contest between
as chairman Of the committee studious-
ly avoided having anything 10 do with
any of them.
VERY PLEASANT CORRESPOND
ENCE.
O. In your extended experience as
commander is it or not a fact that peo-
pie who arc prosecuting enterprises seek
the acquaintance of public men and mem
bers of the Legislature. with the view OF
impressing upon them their interests?
A. There Is no doubt about that, SIT;
and / have been peculiarly bored by let
tiers. North and South since have been
chairman of the History Committee: and
do not know that / hive ever had more
pleasant correspondence in my life than
with various persons interested as edu-
Gators since have been chairman Of the
History Committee. and / have every let
ter that has been written me and every
book that has been sent me. Now, there
is DIR. Jones, who is above suspicion;
have invited and courted correspondence
with him on this question. i have every
letter that he has written me. and 1
prize them highly.
Q. DR. Jones has written a history him
self. has he not?
A. Yes. sir; ne himself has written a
history and he is above suspicion: Nor
did | know who published DR.. Jones's
history until ne stated on the stand yes
terday. Mrs. Lees history is published
by the Il. f. Johnson Company. In the
could (and I think ] have done some
thing) towards bringing that book into
public notoriety and putting IL into our
public schools, for two reasons-frst, II
Is a good book, and, second, we are en-
enterprise In Virginia books.
FOUGHT HARNESS HIS
TORY.
-. nave yOu ever SOu6nt III any
ner TO fasten upon the public schools OF
Virginia what is known as Barnes's HIS
Lory3
A. On the contrary, l have fought
harness History before / was member
Of the History Committee. i think the
first utterance / made against II was In
Roanoke. at the Grand Camp of Viz
GINA; before | was on the committee, my
irst utterances were denouncing Barnes's
and denouncing all of those
nnrfhqrn HISTORIES. and rpVTpfflnK eX-
that we did not have a his
Tory for the South; and since the histories
Tor the South-HanselPs Shnn's. Lees
joness. Fields's and "Our Country (all
been in hopes that It was within the
-ange of probability that some of those
,ooks would be used In our public schools.
For Virginia, l prefer Lees and Joness.
Der correctly q was here part OF the
ime). Ii was stated. l think by Captain
that you sent out circular
o members of the committee recommend
ng Shinn's History; and, 1 think. If ]
heard him correctly. that, he. stated
whilst on the stand, that Shinn's His
DRY was not subject TO the same objec-
ion which has been urged against
Barnes; in other words, 1t Is not unfair
% the Confederate side; but that he OBJ
ected to II on account Of Its inaccura-
les? That is my recollection Of what he
'aid.
A. Yes. sir.
@. Now at the time you sent those res
buttons around to the committee to sign:
What other southern history-you say
'hinn's is a southern history written by
southern man-what other history was
'eing offered in competition with II?
A. Yes. sir. am glad you asked that
question. l will explain. The Grand
lamp OF Virginia passed resolution for
he Grand Camp History Committee TO
,e in touch with the United Confederate
History Committee. / being a
member of both, the United Confederate
Veterans refused and failed, as DR.. Jones
aid yesterday, TO recognize or recon-
mend any particular southern history for
my particular State or school. They gave
long list OF histories-the Doctor will
,er-I think it must have been ten or
T pr Jones: About. twelve, think, sir. |
THAT CIRCULAR-LETTER. AGAIN.
Mr. Stubs (continung): Twelve 1 was
resent with the committeeman the re- |
that those histories came |
10 TO the standard formulated and given |
ut In the report AT Birmingham by that |
plendid scholar, General Stephen ID. Lee. |
IS chairman of our History Committee |
When l came home, i could not get /
committee meeting. j have not had d |
Iuorum of the History Committee I'm the |
ecess OF the Grand Camp OF Virginia. | |
lave written all the reports, and all OF |
ny reports haze been unanimously adopt |
d by the committee. My correspondence |
n the recess was large. l brought all my |
correspondence up here with me. And |
NY suggestions that were made by any |
member of the committee were discuss
d. and i pursued in my report the same |
Inc that General Lee did In his report,
Without selecting any particular history.
paused, and refused to recommend any |
articular history for the schools of Nir-
inia. In the winter OF 1855. / think,
omewhere about that time, the School
}oard of the city of Richmond (and 1
ha school In