Kansas City daily journal., 1897-02-06
WHICH HAS LIED?


Oh the 18th he received a telegram from
Lowe, and that loves statement exonerat-
ed Julian entirely. On the 18th he met
Lowe. and arranged for a meeting TO dis
the people had raised an awful muss over
something. that his wife was worried al
most to death over the matter, and ne
wanted to fix the matter up. They made
date, but did not meet. as Lowe did not ap
writing to Judge Wofford to. be given 10 the
grand jury. asking them TO investigate. and
saying that all the. help the police could
was in reply to the statement of Mr.. Lowe
that the police did not help in any way.
sot hs said the commissioners m Is gave him ab b.
the city. He was to show no mercy, either
to the Findley-Baughmans or to the Bliler-
fed. Concerning the slot machines, he said
Judge McDougall had said they could be
licensed. but the owners arrested if they
were operated.
Mr.. Wallace grew poetical when he went
into into II the 81, eross,eNamination. ami You have
chief and ye do well TO call him chief who
for twelve long years has met on the bloody
sands every form of man, or beast the
bread empire of Rome could furnish Did
You have any such experience before they
called you chief?'
Mr.. Julian smiled.
You declined the place at first. but. like
gently each time?''
ITS not much of n CROWN
Mr.. Julian then told of being, connected
with a regiment here in 1886 during the
strike: and said that was something to fit
man for an executive position such as he
held. Then he said he knew Frank Lowe.
and made the statement Of his famous but
madly muddled. conversation.
I never used the term fix ourselves,
he said.
Can you imagine how Mr.. Lowe could
have possibly misunderstood your meaning
from such language?
Chiefs Idea of the Motive.
that ba boc Ix-, 10
place a doubt in the minds of the people
that these commissioners might not be con-
firmed; and that others might get even
with them
He said he had left his duties here to go
to Jefferson City to try to get the commits
sioEers confirmed. They We're being. fought
by men who We're not in line with the
party management now. The enmity was
because they We're for free silver.
Senator Gray asked if they had been so
conspicuous in politics as to make them
objects of political attack. He thought
man was citizen before he was an Of
ficer and lost no citizen rights by holding
official position.
Did you say at the Turner hall conven-
tion that you would have a convention if
YOU had to kill some fellows to hold it,"
The question was sent to Mr.. Wallace
from a rear room and he read it.
II did say that day and say now that
where any body of citizens under an or
derly call gather for stated purpose they
have a. right to meet. and that anybody
going there to interfere and raise rough
house ought to be suppressed, even to the
point of force
Was it your service as chairman of the
Brown delegation that made you chief?'
He thought that did not harm his
chances, but was not the real cause.
Senator Gray-"You said YOU believe that
any body of men meeting for orderly pur-
poses ought to be uninterrupted. Now,
suppose the citizens wanted to hold n
meeting to declare against the removal of
that rule apply to such parties as might
pCrposely invade that meeting to force an
entirely different purpose and declare
This was hot question and sharply put
1t was in evidence that Commissioner
Johnson, Con Murphy and Pretty Robin
son with others had tried to seize the in
diSGation meeting at Turner hall over
Speers' removal and the rule appeared to
be where it might hurt. Chief Julian was
too wary to say yes. but offered to debate
the question with Senator Gray. The de-
bate was not held. The point was made
From the Battle Row Beat.
Officer Lillis, who has walked Battle
Row beat for over eighteen months, told
what he knew of the gambling house in
the old Times building: He said a game
tain there was no game prior to that time.
He reported the game and a raid followed.
He said he had never heard of = game
there since. He had visited the rbice al
most every night, sometimes half dozen
times each night and had never been
able to get in the building or find evil
fairs was told of by Officer Cassiday. and
officer Whalen. who slapped Ed Findeys
face, also told that story.
Mr.. Fyke Cross-Examined.
Commissioner Fyke went to the stand for
cross-examination shortly after 10 o'clock.
Attorney Wallace put the questions. Mr..
Fyke affirmed his statement that he did
not spend his evenings downtown, and did
not understand ii to be his duty. Thought
it to be the duty of the chief and other Off
DO you expect the chief to get out and
see what was going on?'
DONE
You read in the papers of the gambling
houses, didn't you?"
.!The papers did say something"
Don't You think you could have taken
a, couple of hours and got some informa-
Il don't suppose n police commissioner
could get in such place.
Did you say that good citizens ought to
''Yes. sir: think that is true"
Ed Findlay instigated the Journals NOR
al crusade?"
Relative to the testimony of Mr.. Bunker,
Mr.. Wallace tried to get Mr.. F'yke to say
that Mr.. Bunker said Ed Findley came to
nails fight on gamblers. Mr.. Bunker did
not say that. and no one but MIR. Wallace
SO understood. Mr.. Bunker said that after
the Journal opened the fight, Ed Findley
volunteered to help, and, knowing Findley
knew the ropes he took advantage of his
knowledge and got the information. Mr..
was known and he so stated in reply to
questions propounded in cross-examnaton
by Mr.. Wallace. After this Starlight
Thieman-Ayers-Westp parenthesis the
investigation proceeded
DO you believe Chief Speers would have
given any gambler tip?"
No, sir, do not"
DO you not know that Speers was a
man of magnificent intellect and ablity?"
Il know Chief Speers was a competent
man. | have nothing to say against him.
! know many people believed he had out
lived his usefulness as a chief.
Don't you know, that he had never been
accused of using the force in poltics?''
Il know that it had been charged that
he had failed to use the force to protect
reputable citizens at the polls. and that
when a riot was threatened he went home
and said. in case of trouble. to telephone
Don't you know that before the COM
missionerS were appointed. Colonel Irwin
announced he had been promised the place
of chief by the governor?"
There We're statements published. 1
don't know who made them.
Don't you know there never had been
complaint against the force being used in
politics by Speers?"
II don't know that"
Well, they never were made said Mr..
Wallace.
Now then. I protest against these side
remarks" said Attorney Lucas.
There never was heard louder condem-
nation in the city than was heaped on the
mismanaged police force after the election
frauds of a. said Mr.. Waters. land you.
Mr.. Wallace. said some of the hardest
things uttered at that time
Where Editorials Have No Weight.
Attorney Wallace then read an editorial
from the Times.