The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1897-12-01
TESTIMONY OF THORN
Alleged Slayer OF Gu!densuDpe
Tells His Story Again.
SAYS he DIDN'T FIRE FATAL SHOT

Barber Charges Mrs. Mack With the
Bu,chery-How the Different Parts of
the Victim. BODY Were Hidien-Evi-
dence introduced by the Defense Unit
For Feminine Ears.
New YORK. Nov. 29-Word was
nassed around among the women who
appeared at the Queens county court
house to seek admission to the Thorn
trial that much Of the evidence the de-
fense would introduce would be unls
for polite ears. The result was that
only three women were among the
spectators when Judge Maddox re-
opened court for the trial OF the al
legged mur6eser Of GuldensupDe.
Before Mr.. Howe began his opening
address John Gotha. the barber. We;
recalled. Howe asked him il he had
ever been an inmate OF all lneorl&te
asylum at Fort Hamilton The witness
SAID:
No"
Mr.. Howe repeated the question, pro
nouncing each word with dellberation.
Gotha thought moment and then u.
tered an emphatic no.
That is all that want Of you" said
the bic LAWYER. and Gotha left the
room.
Then Howe began his address with a
declaration of Thorn's innocence, sup
pIemente6 with terrible arralSnment
of Mrs Mack, who was denounced a:
-osC
lhurn on the stand.
The defense called several witnesses
to testify as to the prisoners good char.
acte-, and after short recess Thorn
was put on the stand to testify IL hi:
own behalf.
Beginning with the statement that he
came to America II years ago, the priS-
oner briefly related the facts OF his life
up to the time he met Mrs. Mack IS
months ago. Guldensuppe was boarding
with Mrs Mack at that time.
81 rented a furnished room from heI
at ~a~weeS.| said Thorn. Later J
understood Guldensuppe was her hrs.
band. She first made love TO ine and J
returned her love. was very fond OF
her and loved her up to the moment she
took the witness stand Oh my hrsI
trial !"
The prisoner then told how he sup
planted the bath rubber III Mrs. Nack's
affections. and described the row he had
with Guldeasuppe IL consequence last
February. During this row Gu!Cen-
suppe caught hold OF him. Thorn held
revolver, which went off accidentally
Then Gul6ensuppe took the pistol from
him and gave him beating. The priS-
oner left the house and went to hos
pital Mrs. Naok met him afterwards
very often and they went TO the theaters
and other places Of amusement. She
said she was sorry GIl6ensuppe had
hurt him, but that he must not heed
that.
Thorn, at the suggestion Of his coun.
sci, then told in his own way what Mrs.
Mack had said to him after that. The
court directed Mr.. Howe not to lead the
witness.
1hoy Rented Cottage.
Mrs. Mack told me-" said Thorn.
that she wished to leave Guldensupps
and wished to live in some quiet place.
We visited the Woodsi6e cottage and as
it seemed suitable place we hired the
cottage. paid SIS and got the key.
son June p gave the key to Mrs
Mack. as she said she wanted to do some
cleaning at the cottage. About II or I
O'Clock on Friday morning, June 20
Mrs. Mack met me at the door. She
said: I have Gu.densuppe up stairs. ]
asked her what he was doing there.
She replied: He is dead. have shot
him She then requested me to help
her dispose OF the body. I went up
stairs and helped her TO undress the
BODY. We carried it TO the bathtub.
sent out aud bought some plaster Of
Paris.
When came back she began cut
ting up tie body. She cut the head oil
with knife. When she reached tie
back of the neck she cut through that
portion with small saw. She then cut
through the middle OF the body, aud ]
then asked her why she cut it so, and
she replied: 7 know enough not to cut
through the bowels. Next she cut CT
the legs, after which she Went out fOr
while, as il was very warm ii there.
On her return we encased the head IL
the plaster OF Paris. We brought away
the dead ma2's clothing in !, bundle and
carried the head III another bundle
The saw, knife and head were IL the
bundle of clothes took car TO tas
Ninty- second street ferry, over wh:t=l
we crossed TO New York threw the
head overheard while the boat was cross
ing the river Then We went 70 Ms.
Nack's house on Ninth avenue, where
she burned the clothes III cooking
stove"
Dsposim of the Remains.
The witness then told OF tie surrey
drive on the following day. Saturday,
June 70. anc the disposition 0: The other
portions OF the remains when wera
wrapped up III oil. cheese cloth and pr
per, which Mrs. Mack had purchased
prior to her visit to the cottage Oh June
25, the day OF the killing.
Thorn told OF MS meetings with the
woman after this anu how Mrs. Mack
had made preparations to go to Europe.
Mrs Mack met him on Wednesday night,
June 80, and the following day he
learned from the papers that she had
been arrested
He EXPLAINED his conversation with
Gotha He said that he had told Gotha
that Mrs. Mack killed GuIdensuppe and
also told the barber how the BODY was
cut up and disposed OF. He told Gotha
O; his intention to give himself up TO
the police, but Gotha asked him TO
wait He gave Gotha some pawn tick
cts and made appointment to meet him
the following night. Thorn kept the
appointment and was arrested. During
his conversas3sn with Captain O Brieu
Thorn said he told the detective some
truths and some falSehOoGs.
During the time he was giving ehis
direct testimony Thorn looked direct at
the jury. He spoke clearly and dis
tinctIy. although at times his voice
dropped to rather low tone. He used
very good English with only u Slight
trace OF a German accent. His direct
examination lasted three quarters OF aa
hour. Surrogate Weller conducted the
cross examination