The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1897-01-23
Mr.. 0LNEY'S
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violation of the rules of the senate.
did not intend TO encroach upon
the rules of the senate" replied Mr..
Stewart, but l am sorry this treaty
can not have full discussion in the
open senate"
Up to this time only Republicans had
taken part in the discussion. Senator
Hill arose as Mr.. Stewart took his seat:
And with one accord they all began
to make excuses. That" said Mr..
Hill, may not be a literal scriptural
quotation, but il viii answer"
He had proceeded no further, when
Mr.. Morgan asked what was before the
senate.
The debate is proceeding by unani-
nous consent" replied the vice-presi-
dent.
Then object said Mr.. Morgan and
Mr. Hill was shut off
L understand, now, who it hit, re-
torted Mr.. Hill as he sat down.
Just as the -vice-president laid before
the senate at o'clock the unfinished
business, the Nicaragua canal bill, Mr..
Sherman sent to the desk a letter from
the secretary of state transmitting a
communication from Mr.. Rodriguez,
the minister from the Greater Repub-
lie of Central America" on that sub
ject. 1t called attention TO the friend
ship expressed by the United States for
IhtoC 1CPnD4lCS anu lllC lllNCA CoN NAA7
played in endeaVoring to bring about
the construction of an isthmian canal.
AT the same time it was pointed out
that the provisions of all the bills pend
ing in congress We're in conJravention
OF the contract between the govern
nent of Nicaragua and the Maritime
Canal company, and Inat If congress
were to attempt to carry out the pro-
visions of any of these bills it would
Vltlate that contract. The minister
suggested a renewal of negotiations
between the United States and the
greater republic along the lines of the
treaty negotiated with Nicaragua by
Secretary Frelinghuysen.
The moment TINS QOcument was read
MI. Morgan was on his feet. He de-
ciared that congress knew nothing, Of
ncla1ly, of such a government as the
greater republic of Central America.
The minister is accredited to the
United States said Mr.. Sherman.
In one sense, yes" said Mr.. Nor
gan. He. has been presented at the
door of the government, has been
bowed in and permitted to take a seat
among the diplomats, but we know
nothing beyond newspaper reports of
the existence Of the government he is
said to represent
He characterized the communication
as the lmpertinent intrusion of a
minister the effect of which might be
TO defeat the passage of the pending
bill.
As the discussion proceeded. Mr..
Morgan referred to the Clayton Bull
lyer treaty and particularly called the
attention of the senator from Ohio,
(Mr- Sherman), soon to be secretary
of state, that a report drawn up by
the former senator from Vermont, (Mr.
Edmunds}, and approved by the sena-
tor from Ohio, CMr Sherman), had
declared that this treaty was in no
way obligatory upon the United States.
Mr. Sherman interposed to remark
that he hesitated to answer the re-
marks of his honorable friend because
they seemed based upon matters which
should be discussed in executive ses-
sion.
Mr.. Hoar, tRep., Mass.), also ex-
pressed his opinion that the discussion
was intTenching upon executive bust
ness, upon which Mr. Morgan replied
that if this was so he was SHINING most
grievouSly, for his recollection was
that the seal of secrecy had been-re-
moved and everything relating TO this
C'ayton-BulWer report had been printed
for the information of the senate and
the public.
Mr.. Hale, t(Rep., Me-. explained that
until this afternoon neither he nor any
of mis- associates had known anything
about this complaint of the govern
ment of Nicaragua.
Neither did l." said Mr.. Morgan
with marked emphasis.
He repeated his assertion that if this
bill were recommitted and the arbitra-
ton treaty were ratified the United
States would be shut out, and he in
timated that the delay asked by this
Rodriguez protest was instigated by
Great Britain, a country which never
failed to push its way, but had one
glorious characteristic in that it never
failed to protect its subjects: whereas
the graves of Cuba were filled with
those who had died simply because
they were American citizens and their
government failed to protect them. Mr..
Morgan concluded by saying he wanted
to hear the senator who would move
to recommit this bill.
Replying by indirection to this chal-
lenge Mr.. Hale, (Rep., Me- suggested
that the senate should adjourn until
Monday, SO as to give an opportunity
for obtaining further information be-
forc the motion to recommit was
made.
Mr.. Morgan retorted that he hoped
IN such cases the senator from Maine,
(B1I- Hale), would make the application
TO Secretary Oiney, for he (Alr. Nor
gam, had found by experience that he
could get nothing from the state de-
partment.
Mr. Was, Dem., Wis.). briefly ad-
dressed the senate against the Near
aguan bill, speaking of it as being in
articuio mortis and of the company as
worthless and bankrupt corporation.
The senate, at AS p. M, adjourned
until tomorrow, with the understand
ing it would then take up unopposed
bills and perhaps go through the for
NAL motion Of reading the bankruptcy
bill which. Mr.. Hale said. would oc-
cupy an hour and a half at least.