The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-12-11

himself. has he not2
A. Yes. sir, he himself has written a
history: and he is above SUSPICION. NOT
did | know who has published Dr. Jones
history. until he stated on the stand yes
terday. Mrs Lees history Is published
by the +. +. Johnson Company In the
city of Richmond. and | have done an l
could (and | think / have done some
thing towards bringing that book into
public notoriety. and putting 1t into our
public schools: for two reasons-Drst IL
is a good book: and second, we are en-
couraging enterprise in Virginia books
O. Have you ever sought In any man
ner TO fasten upon the public schools OF
Virginia what is known as Barnes MS
tory?
4 On the contrary. I have lought
Barnes history before | was member
OF the History Committee. think the
first utterance ! made against II was IN
Roanoke. AT the Grand Camp Of virginia
before ! was on the committee. my iirst
rirteTarnccs were donouncinS Barnes
history. and denouncing all Of those
Northern histories; and regretting eN-
ceedingly that we did not have a history
for the South: and since the histories for
the South-Hansell's. Shinn's, Lees,
Jones. Fields. and our Country AL
OF those are by Southern authors have
been I'm hopes that IL was within the
range OF probability that some OF those
books would be used in our public
schools. For Virginia I prefer Lees and
Jones.
Q. II was stated yesterday If ! remem-
berr correctly Il was here part OF the
time) II was stated / think by Captain
Hazlewood. that you sent out a circular
to members OF the committee recon-
mendng Shinns history and ] think. II
I heard him correctly. that he stated
whilst on the stand. that Shinn's history
was not subject TO the same objection
which has been urged against Barnes
in other words. II Is not unfair TO the
Confederate side: but that he objected
10 it on account Of its inaccuracies? That
is my recollection of what he said?
A. Yes. sir.
O. Now. at the time you sent those
resolutions around TO the committee 10
sign, what other Southern history-you
say shinn's is a Southern history. writ
ten by a Southern man what other MS
tory was being offered in competition
with il?
\. Yes sir ! am glad you asked that
question ! will explain. The cram
Camp of Virginia passed a resolution Tor
the Grand Camp History Committee 10 ne
i'm touch with the l.. 6. " History COM
mittee. being a member OF both. the
L. G. VS. refused and failed as Dr. Jones
said yesterday. TO recognize or recon-
mend any particular Southern history TOT
any particular state or school They gave
a long list of histories-the Doctor VIII
pardon me. If he can give me the NUMBER
I think it must have .been ten or twelve.
Or. Jones: About twelve. ] thlnk.
WROTE ALL THE REPORTS.
Mr.. Stubbs continuing: twelve. was
present with the committee, with the
recommendation that those histories came
up 10 the standard formulated ana given
out in the report at Birmingham by that
splendid scholar General stephen d. Lee
as chairman of the History committee
When came home / could not gel COM
mittee meeting. ] have not had quorum
of the History Committee I'm the recess
of the Grand Camp Of Virginia. ! have
written all the reports. ana an my re-
ports have been unanimously adopted by
the committee. My correspondence IN the
recess was large. / brought all my cor
respondcnce up here with me. Ana any
suggestions that were made by any mem
Der of the committee were discussed anu
| pursued in my report the same me tna'
General Lee did in his report without Sc
Letting any particular history. p"uscu
and refused 10 recommend any particular
history for the schools OF virginia III
the winter OF go. ! think-someWhere
about that time the School Board OF the
city Of Richmond (and reckon the hnes'
school system I'm the State oi virginia
IS that I'm the city OF Richmond) fnopleu
a long report recommending Shihh ms
tory for the use Of the public SCHOOLS in
the city of Richmond. when saw any
think about school histories stopped ana
read it as carefully as / could ana ~
struck me that IL was the very tnlhs 10 20
10 get rid Of a history that was on our
school list OF the Board OF Educauoh 10
drive Barnes History from lhe pupNc
schools. and | think the clrCuiar ""'
sent out II had the circular mere NV
sir YOU would see mat / quoted from ,ne
Richmond Dispatch the report Oh 'he
School Board II don't kno" "he'hef i
am using the technical term ehpioyS"
here in the city OF Richmond. out III the
country We would call u tle S0"oo'
Board). And | simply wrote a4o"s win
that report. that l approved OF 'he pau,
IL being a Southern history ana "ou'e
drive from our school Barnes hlstoIS' "
the Grand Camp should at It's next ses-
sion see MT 10 adopt IT and report upon IL,
I think / sent IL. am not posllNe' ou'
think | sent IT first TO Colonel hu'"e u
DR.. Tucker with the request IN an oPeIl
letter. to please forward 10 IS anu
would forward IL 20 G. and arouhu 30,
until remember that Captain hd]'e"oou
was the last one that 1 askeu 'hat tne
letter be sent to- 1 b. d not hear from II
and | wrote TO Captain lakewood lie
endorsed on - do not remember MS
endOrsement-but 40 remember 'nd'
majority Of ale committee were opPosVu
10 the History Committee recomnhe"ui"e
any particular history. and so the mater
dropped. We met at the Grand lamp '"o
following summer. and then II was '""'
the report that you have seen iileu III Wy
record of our History Committee 'n''ln
that must have been at Winchester '"u
i'm Winchester We said In our repoi'
recommended the use of the iolo"i"s
books in the public schools OF the s""'"
the same that were recommended y, ~
u. G. VS. I'm the city of Houston ieAA'
| In the summer Of 90. anu / quoieu "na'
General Lee in mis- report SAID wan"
| takes up many pages and also ~
braced in that report the list OF p"DnN
schools books that should be usTn III vs..
| public schools Of Sirginia-ss 'oooks '"'''
| should he read.
Colonel Stubs here read from !"
printed pamphlet. recnmrcndatiohs '0"
| tained In the report referred TO-
NO DIRECTION
| We did everything we could 70 oriNe