The herald., 1897-12-10
He here stated that he had advanced the
money under fraternal obligation.
F'ATHERLY COUNSEL

money under fraternal obligation.
FATHERLY COUNSEL
The visit that Hellman made to AK
tells house was then brought out. 1t
was admitted by the witness that on the
day Axtell's confession became public
he went to the latter's residence and
asked him II 1t were true that he in
tended to confess, and Axtell told him
that 1t was. Then Hellman advised him
to stay at home and think over the mat
ter and not take such step. Asked If
he had advised Axtell to tell the same
story as he had told before the grand
jury. Hellman said that he had not, but
had told him to tell the truth.
| you know If he told the truth his
statement would be different from the
statement he made before the grand
jury, did you not?" was asked.
Il will not say that. Yes, did know
It." Hellman admitted. The witness as
serted that his only interest in the mat
ter and what took him to Axells house
was his friendship for him. He admit
ted that he had appealed to Axtell on
his obligation as a Mason not to con-
fess at that time. 1t was brought out
In this connection that Webb Is also q
Mason.
The cross s-examination was conducted
by Attorney Meserve and was very ex-
haustive. In response to questions
Hellman stated that the first he knew
of Axtell's trouble was when the latter
came to him on the Saturday morning
following the publication Of the expose
Of the scandal. AS to the interview in
the basement Of the Spring street school
he denied that he had used the express
sion Keep a stiff upper lip" and also de-
MED that he had said 1--WE" in Offering
Axtell assistance. He asserted that he
was in the habit Of using that word In
speaking Of the firm and IL he used it
then it was in that meaning.
MYSTERIOUS UNKNOWN
Hellman then repeated much of what
he had said In direct examination and
was led up to the consultation which
Axtell had with Attorney Davis in the
latter's office. Hellman was present
part Of the time and heard something OF
Axtell's statements. He said reluctant
ly and after many questions that Davis
had told Axtell that he must have the
truth. Axtell then told that he had been
before the grand jury and had there
sworn that he had not received Coopers
| $50. He admitted to Davis that he had
received the money and mentioned who
got it from him. Hellmnn stated that
he had heard Axtell tell Davis who the
man was to whom he paid the money
Every effort was made to induce He'll
man to reveal the name of this man but
he refused positively saying, "The man
| Is friend of mine and I don't want to
put him In hole"
In vain did the attorneys ask him In
every way possible for the name Of the
man. Hellman, however, refused to
name him.
II will probably be q witness in the
superior court In Webb's case, and
will have to tell 1t there, but will not
do so here"
"was the man webb?" asked Mr..
Meserve.
II will say this, that 1t was not Webb"
was the response, and he added: II was
in doubt as to the matter. and went to
Mr.. Davis today and asked him If was
right. and he said I was-that I had
heard the name correctly"
ADAMS THE MAN
The man to whom Hellman referred In
this portion of his testimony is Director
]. r. Adams. This was learned from a
source that removes all doubt as to the
matter. Hellman meant that Axtell told
Attorney Davis that after he (Axtell)
had received the $50 he paid 1t to Adams
Attorney Meserve, in conversation with
q friend, learned whom Hellman meant,
and from other sources was able to cor
roborate 1t.
| Hellman again denied that he had
told Axtell that others were going to
contribute to the payment of his attor-
ney. When asked as to Axtell's state
ment that Hellman had mentioned sew
eral names. one of them a Jewish name,
as persons who were going to assist in
the payment of Davis, Hellman denied
that he had ever told Axtell any such
names, or that any other persons were
to have assisted or did assist.
Questioned by Judge Phillips, Hellman
| admitted that the profits on the goods he
sold thorugh the influence of Axtell amount
ed to thousand of dollars. Mr.. Gibbon
brought out the fact that before the pres
ent system of ordering goods went into ef-
feet Axtell had purchased 25 per cent OF
| the school supplies of Hellman without
acquisitions, but the acquisitions were made
out later.
Hellman admitted that he had contrib
uted to the election of Adams, and the at
| torneys for the defense got the laugh on
him by bringing out the fact that Adams
was a Populist, while Hellman is Dem
ocrat and still had an interest in Adams
success.
| COOPER TO BE RECALLED
| 1t had been intended to place Cooper again
on the stand. but he had not been notified
in time. Attorney Davis was not present
when he was called, so the prosecution in
troduced Prof. Keppel. He testified that
Webb had never promised him his support
| for reelection to the principalship OF
Harper school. and told of visit he had
made to Director Bartlett's store where
Webb was called by Mr.. Bartlett. On
cross-examination he again recited the
story Of his having told Axtell that he
thought he had been giving the principals
whom he approached dirty DEAL" be-
cause he had claimed to represent mum
ber of the members of the board, when ir
| fact he had not done so. He stated that
except as rumor he had not heard Webb's
name connected with the extortion oi
money from employees at the time the at
| tempt upon him was made, and since ther
he had not heard It until the present in.
vestigation began. Numerous question.
were asked him as to Webb's mannel
when he had seen him at Bartlett's store
which he answered.
This closed the examination for the even
ing, and Mr.. Gibbon stated that he woult
occupy about one hour tonight in the ex
animation Of witnesses for the prosecu
ton. The board then adjourned until thi.
evening at 1880 o'clock.