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Mrs. Nack's eyes filed up and she re-

to this country; what was your occupa
tionY
Midwife" was the reply.
"How many children did you kill, Mrs
NackY' was the next question.
81 never killed one to my knowledge
and l can prove it by DOCTORS" answered
the woman, with emphasis.
Several other questions in this vein fol
lowed, to all of which the witness re
piled with positive denials.
Mr.. Howe retired from the court room
for few minutes, during which time
Lawyer Moss and the prisoner held al
earnest conversation. Thorn seemed t.
be very deeply interested and whispered
to his counsel with lips close to the lat
ter's ear.
you said that you were never init
mate with Thorn, that you only loved
him because he threatened you and be
cause he was Il gentleman. Now, this
letter was written three months after the
murder, and you loved him still when
you used these words in the letter"
The witness nodded an assent
Mrs. Nack's letter to Thorn, written in
the Queens county prison, with which
she sent him potatoes and addressed him
as Dear Martin and Dear ehild'' and
suggested that they end their lives. was
translated. She acknowledged that she
wrote the letter, but insisted that she
had never loved him at any time, and
was pretending that she did only because
she was afraid of him.
81 did everything | could to satisfy
every cent of money | had"
why was it you were afraid OF
| Thorn" asked Mr.. Howe.
"Thorn had syringe and said that he
would put something in it which would
destroy my eycsight and that Of Guldcn-
suppe." ...
made you buy the oil cloth before the
! man was dead and the same fear, after
! he was dead, which made you burn his
/ clothing"
Yes"
| Mr.. Howe continued his crOss-exami-
nation step by step until he had led the
witness to repeat her whole story, as
given in her first confession. 1t did not
| differ materially from that brought out
i'm the direct examination.
"How many children have you killed:
asked Mr.. Howe.
Not one that know Of"
"How many children, still born infants,
in bottles have you in your house,!
II have two"
In reply to another question Mrs Mack
said:
Il never gave money or offered money
to any one to kill my husband. l never
said so"
Mrs. Mack said that she never used in
Struments in her profession as midwife
and that when she had a case where in
struments had to be used she always
called in doctor.
Mr.. Howe changed his tactics after
this, and, turning suddenly, he shouted at
the top of his voice:
Mrs. Mack. was it not you who shot
Guldensuppe?'
The woman was startled. but regained
herself in moment ana nall shrlekeu'
mo, | did not"
WAS it not you who cut up the body"
The woman frantically yelled back
defiant mo"
Mr. Howe asked the permission of the
court to reserve further crossexamlna-
ton of the witness, which was granted.
Attorney Weller proceeded with the re,
direct examination, which was conducted
with the aid of an interpreter. :.
As the examination was proceeding
Thorn sat with his head bent slightly
he would fold his arms and keep them
in that position for five or six minutes
and then he would clasp either thumb
in the opposite hand and rest his hands
on his knees.
A recess of an hour was taken at 1890
O'Clock.
Mrs. Nack's redirect testimony was re-
sumed after recess.
Replying to Attorney Weller's hrst
question, she said Martin Thorn had
long-bladed knife. She said that Ihorn
and she retained it until they were both
riding together in the wagon on Satur-
day, Thorn asked her for it and she
gave il 10 him. When she did so he
threw it away on the side of the road
some distance from Woodside, but she
could not locate the exact place.
Later on Mr.. Howe asked for the re-
volver which the detectives found, IN
Mrs. Nack's apartments. She SAID II
belonged to Guldensuppe and after ne
and Thorn had quarrelled Guldensuppe
unioaded it and nut it away in a closet.
Coroner Tuthill of New York was then
called to prove that the several portions
of body found in three bundles De,
longed to the same person. lie sald
the bones had marks of a saw. =.
During her examination Mrs. Mack
never mentioned saw being used:
neither did Gotha in his report CT
Thorn's alleged confession to him.,
Other witnesses were called whose
identifying the body of Guldensuppe.
Bernard Bonla, the owner OF the
Woodside cottage. followed the bath at
tendants on the witness stand.
He identified Thorn and Mrs. Mack as
the two persons who, representing thelh
selves as Mr.. and Mrs. Braun, hired
the cottage from him last June.
Adjournment was FASTENED by ine
prostration of Juror Mangus Larsen. he
will probably be able to resume his place
in the jury box tomorrow.
The Lawyers Discuss 1t.
New York, Nov. 1O.-Mr. Howe, in
the course of an interview tonight, de-
clared that Mrs. Mack killed and cut
up Gudensuppe. ,r all,
.sTomorrow," said Mr.. Howe. II Will
nut Thorn on the witness stand and he
will tell the jury the truth that 1t
was Mrs. Mack who killed Guldensuppe
and who cut him up in the bath tub.
During the recess District Attorney
Olcott of New York made the following
statement:
IF it were not for the legal require
ment that the confession of an accom-
plice must be corroborated before it
can go to the jury, would now advise
Mr.. Young to close his case at once. so
thoroughly am | convinced that the jury
realizes that Mrs. Mack is telling the
truth. The confession is sound and true
in every particular and corroborated the
evidence which we already have. Few
of the witnesses will be called that we
expected to use so as to furnish The cor