The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-11-20
STATE Of TERROR
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self, what would you do?" II would not I'M
dertak "a

sci, MilaI MOuAu you w WOuiu nOI
dertake it,
WOULD NOT MANGLE THEM.
you have a convict there who says he will
not go to his cell and obey your order, what
would you do l say, if you were in Lemons
place, possessed Of the physical ability to
handle the convict and he would not do what
you told him?" II would carry him out If
1 was not able to get him along quietly,
would call other force. If l could get him
along without mangling him I would do it,
Did you see him mangle any one there?"
'One man was Douglas; the others 1 could
not tell their names.'
He mangled Douglas? Did you see him?"
1891"
Was there anybody else?" There were
Others
Did you see him do it?" "T did not"
You say you would take hold of him Il
you could get him along?" Il would try to
get him along quietly
You would discuss the question with
him?" Il would not discuss it with him at
all. Would call help
These little incidents you saw were cases
where you were casually passing by, you did
not stop to investigate the cause?'' mo, sir
and for all you know, these men may
have resisted the orders of the deputy?' II
don't NJ know anything about that
You don't know anything about the cir
cumstances that led UP to it?" mo, sir. -
You heard him swear inside, where was
he when he swore?' In the cell ROOM He
was swearing at some Of the convicts. I
~
Ing the time l was there. Cannot fix the
year or the month. Cannot tell you who the
cconvicts were. There, We're quite g few Of
them standing around. I think they were
coming down from the gallery. I was pass
ing from the printing office. He was talking
to the convict and damned him. He said:
- you, get in there"
Then he kicked him again, did he? That
is the language he used, you get in there?' -
Yes, sir. l could not tell you Just when
it was; the men were coming down from the
tn fn fha oh
was coming back from the cell ROOM
How far were you from him?" quite
close"
"And was the convict cut Of lIne?' ST did
did you tell the warden that the deputy
had been swearing at coavicts?" 81 did not -
did not. l never told anybody about that"
How did Mr.. Penny find it out?"
The witness did not answer this.
do you know Mr.. Colligar?" Yes, SIR
C0LLIGAN AS A DEsPoT.
What sort OF man is hep HE is q
despot, He never makes move toward the
convict but he goes for him. He glories in
going for them. He would pound men in
the cell ROOM
That was prior to 1872" 'Ts was after I
WAS it prior to Lemon anG Garvin's coming
in? 1 will ask you IN reference to when you
saw him since 1891. when you saw him abus-
he was in his cell room"
AZ want you to tell me when you saw him
abuse Tressler, when Lemon and Garyin
were there?" ~ told you l did not say so''
"Dop you known when Tressler was dag
charged?' IT do not He was discharged
under the present warden"
WAS it Josiah Tressler or George?"
George
You never saw Colligan doing anything
since 1891 to Tressler, since Lemon and Gar.
vim came; did you see him misuse anybody
else?" Yes; many one."
"Give us the name OF one or two2" "I
could not tell you how often
How often did he enjoy this pastimo?"
Whenever he got a chance. He would DO
1t right along He gloried in It."
what time Of day would he go out and
take this exercise?" IT could not tell you"
WAS 1t in the morning or after dinner? ?"
ANY time it might OCCUR
HE had no particular hour when he would
take rap at co1vict!" mo, SIR
"You say you resigned, were not dis
charged" ~ resigned
did the warden ask for your resignation"
mo, sir, never"
you went in and submitted your resigna-
ton oralIy?" Yes, SIR
"IIe did rot desire to ascept 1T. did he 2"
HE says he wondered. Es exonerated me
on the question. lie egoaerated me on the
complaint made by Oneara."
you ard OMeara had some trouble and
he complained to the warden about your"
ION my part never one word
"iou Gid not have trouble in the shop?"
mo. ST."