The herald., 1897-08-08

OPTIMISM
Can See Only a Good Time
Coming
SPAIN Is SURE TO LOSE CUBA
JAPAN WILL NOT FIGHT OVER
HAWAII
SPAIN IS SURE TO LOSE CUBA
England Is a Great Country, but
There Is No Danger of a
War With Her
Associated Press Special Wire,

Associated Press Special Wire.
NEW YORK, August THE World
publishes an interview said to have been
obtained with John Sherman, Secretary
of State, just previous to his return to
Washington from Amagansett, L. I. In
this interview Mr.. Sherman is reported
as saying:
Spain will lose Cuba. That seems to
be certain. She cannot continue the
struggle. Already the conflict has cos,
her more than 5000 900 OOO Her money
is gone and she can get no more. She has
reached the limit of her borrowing ca
pacity. She cannot pay back what she
has already borrowed. The only thins
| left for her to do is to repudiate her
debts. We had to do that after the revo
luton. Having repudiated them she can
begin anew, but she will have to begin
without Cuba. That country is devas-
tated. The insurgents have been fighting
with only the hope of ultimate success
as their reward The Spanish soldiers
have been battling for pay. The pay will
stop and then the conflict will stop.
Spain is in no condition to wage war
anywhere. The burdens placed upon her
people to sustain the struggle for re-
tanning Cuba have been very heavy
Widespread discomfort will come sooner
or later within the Spanish domain.
Stopping the struggle by withdrawing
her troops from Cuba and by repudiating
her debts is her only way to recover.
Sooner or later she must do this. So far
we have done nothing to rouse the anger
of the Spanish people. We have gone on
minding our own business, deaf to the
distress of Cuba and deaf to the plead
ings of our own people who wanted the
government to interfere"
THE HAWAIIAN SITUATION
The Secretary was asked as to whether
there was any truth in the report that
| the American flag was to be raised in
Hawaii and protectorate proclaimed
He replied: Il cannot divulge the in
structions given to Minister Sewal Per-
haps they Will develop as time passes.
But can say that there will be no change
in the situation in Hawaii until Congress
reconvenes. There can be no change be-
cause the terms of the pending treaty
which have been approved by President
Mckinley must be observed.
There is nothing in this talk that
serious disagreement between this coun-
try and Japan will follow any interfer-
ence on our part with the existing sys-
tenn Of government in Hawaii. Japan
must certainly understand that this ma
tion has never objected to the japanese
and that whatever trouble it has had on
t,iex
we are not responsible and over whom
we have no control. If we had Hawaii
Japan would have no reason to fear that
her subjects would suffer from unfair
treatment.
While believe that Japan is entire
ly innocent Of any intent of assuming
toward US belligerent or threa tenine
attitude, 1t may be well to remark that
her attitude, no matter what it might be-
would not affect our pisition in the least.
I'VE have always believed that we
have more right to take stand in the
management of the Hawaiian Islands
and the government of other lands
similarly situated than any other coun-
try.
Hawaii is only about 1000 miles from
our shores. Whatever course we see fit
to pursue toward her will be pursued
without regard to any other nation. We
consider that we have right to do
this, and we will insist upon maintaining
our rights at any cost"
THE NEW GOLD FIELDS
Have you taken any interest in the
discovery of the new gold fields?"
Mr. Sherman looked up in surprise
you mean the Klondyke region? Of
course, I have. That is matter that
would naturally attract the attention
of any man in my position.
''The fact that international complica-
tlons may ensue has of course, sharpened
my interest in the subject. There may
be questions as to boundaries. 1t has al
ways been customary to consider the
lines as running along the mainland,
but occasionally it has been contended
that in laying the lines to determine the
3O-mile line, measurement could be made
from the points of land extending farth-
est into the water or even from islands
Whenever these claims were made the
purpose of them has been apparent
They were made to advance the interests
of the country making them. If a dis
agreement arises over such a question it
! would possibly be because some of the
islands prove of unusual value. This
government is ready to maintain the
rights of it's citizens and to protect its
own interests to the last degree. 1t is too
early to speculate as to what may
happen in Alaska. If difficulties arise we
will be ready to face them, but 1 expect
no trouble"
1T is a place where big fortunes are
being rapidly made"
'Oh, don't know about that" replied
the Secretary. "A great many of the
stories that come from that place are
undoubtedly exaggerated l guess some
of them are grossly exaggerated. 1t is al
ways so whenever gold is found. The
tales are built on hopes and Imagination
as much as on facts.
"The statement is printed this morn
ing that the making of Dyea a port of
entry is likely to injure us financially
Whether or not It is port of entry is of