The news & observer., 1897-02-24

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J II have supported him when he was
right and have not when he was wrong"
You were the judgeY
II was the judge"
| "He was right when he agreed with
you and wrong when he did not agree"
| II thought he was wrong when he dis
agreed with me-"
| In answer to questions, Mr.. Daniels
| had had intimate relations with Gov.
! Carr had had no feeling against Gov
| Carr except in the line of opposing the
| lease; he had never had any trouble
with Gov. Carr ON account of printing.
| (Suggested by Henderson,
| As to his relation with the Southern,
| Mr. DanieIs's relations had been very
pleasant up to recently. Then Col. Hen
| derson had Mr.. Daniels to go into n
| history OF the Transportation" rela-
| tions between the Southern and the
News and Observer-and correspondence
| was referred to in which his pass had
been discontinued by the Southern on
| account of his stand against the lease.
He had not been hostile to the officers
except as to their action in the lease
| matter He had pass from the Sea-
| board; he had used it but once this year,
| Saturday night to Weldon and back.
Have you received any consideration
| for your advocacy of the Seaboard Air
| Lines controversy
what do you mean2"
Have you received anythdng?" (con-
| fused)
Il have not Indignantly
did you not receive a 800 check, a
cut of which appeared in your paper?
| tReferring to the Reynolds cheeky
Il did, -producing the check.l
You have not cashed it?"
at would not be proper for an EDI-
to cash such a check -(sneeringlyy
Mr.. Daniels here stated his reasons
for opposing the lease, saying that no
lease should have been made at any time
until it had been SUBMITTED to the General
| Assembly.
| why not have general electiong'
THAT is not practicable"
why is ii notg'
| Because it is the nearest way to a
| general election to get the consent of the
| General Assembly"
| Mr. Daniels stated, moreover, that the
directors We're trustees and had no right
| to lease this road, and if they had been
| a private trustee they should be made to
| pay the money back that had been lost
| by their bad trade. And in this case,
| the people should have a remedy against
| the bad trade of the directors who had
| leased this road for three generations,
/ with the result Of the 1ncrement along
| the road during that time not being saved
| to the people He had never advocated
| the acceptance Of the Seaboard's bid, but
| wanted the highest bid to be submitted
| to the General Assembly and have them
| tell the directors what 10 do.
Mr.. Henderson here wanted Mr.. Dan
| iels to tell what the SeabOard could do
| with the line under al kinds of cir
crnnstances. Mr.. Daniels couldn't
answer the conundrums, but stated
the profits in 1871, $4,000 under State
control, and the status Of the town then.
| Mr.. Henderson was very patronizing
with his deep bass $4,000 Free
Pass voice as if trying to persuade him
| self that it was all nuts" for him, but
Mr.. Daniels promptly replied to each
! question, saying that the fact Of the
rates being 4 times as much then had
| nothing to do with the case, as the in
crease OF traffic now was much more
| than the increase of rates then.
| Mr.. Daniels knew, and charged no cor
ruption Of the directors, but as directors
| they did very wrong to lease the road for
the time and rate, and in the secret man
ner they did. He thought they made ii
because threats were made and instead
of standing up like men for the State,
they permitted themselves to be bul!
dozed
If it became necessary to save the life
Of the North Carolina railroad, Mr..
Daniels would undoubtedly be in favor
of not letting it be paralleled-if that
would kill the road.
The fiscal status Of the road, bonds
ETC., was gone into.
Mr.. Henderson wanted to know why
should the State make a difference be-
tween its own property and any other
railroad.
The question was so ridiculous that Mr..
Daniels smiled and let it answer itself.
Mr.. Daniels said there was no danger
of the Southern carrying out their
threats-he thought only portable things
could be carried away. He would have
examined the earnings. The directors
made no nvestigation-toolk the South
ern report only as guide. He had never
heard Of any such investigation.
Mr.. Daniels went into an interview
with Hoffman printed 4th day of Au-
gust, in the Charlotte Observer, before
the lease, to the effect that he would
like to have an opportunity to make
bid
Mr.. Daniels did not think Hoffman
would have then bid, but on that very
account the directors should not have let
the property go on the lessee's terms.
Mr.. Henderson wanted to force Mr..
Daniels to say what was a proper time.
Mr. Daniels refused and insisted on an
swering repeatedly such time as the
legislature thought best
Then your idea is that the bad Judg-
ment consisted in not submitting to the
legislature the proposition before clos
ing the trade.
Yes, sir; for so long term and before
its expiration.
Here Mr.. Busbee popped up with
News and Observer editorial of wed
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