Evening star., 1897-06-15
PEOPLE AND THE SENATE
Senators Hoar and Tillman Have a Lively
Tilt.
JnvestfgatfOn Of Sugar Trust Stock
Scandal the Text-Passage of
Words During the Tarfn Debate.

commission Of five members to investigate
Into the subject Of sugar production and
the best means of supplying the American
market at the least cost
He said the raising Of revenue from sugar
has been subject Of c intention for $50
years in England and this country. He did
not think any considerable portion Of the
people believed that the men who had
framed these and former tariff schedules
were impelled by any other than honorable
motives. But the men who make these
tariffs are met by subtle and conflic ting
questions which had already broken down
one of the senators (Mr. Aldrich). Mr..
Hoar Urged, therefore, that his proposed
commission would command the best talent
OF the country in presenting to the Senate
the fullest Information concerning sugar
Next to the development of our virgin
beet would be the greatest boon to asri-
culture. Reverting again to publish he'd
statements of irregularity in connection
with the sugar schedule, Mr.. Hoar said
pless that somebody had been bribing SEN
ators, these statements are received by
serious people throughout the country
with absolute contempt"
MI Allison suggested that this was such
an important question that it ought to be
considered by the finance committee
MI Hoar agreed to the reference of the
amendment to the committee, and this was
done.
Mr.. Jones (Ark.) said that the tariff COM
mission inaugurated in 1888, at the in
stance OF republicans, had accomplished no
good. N'0
Mr.. Tillman Is. c. then answered Mr.
Hear. He said he had the deepest respe,t
fcr the integrity of the senator from Mass
achusetts. but perhaps he had become cal
ieus IN MS long service, as was indicated
py the statement that the best people of
coin parties treated with contempt the
statements that there was irregularity in
making the sugar schedule But, said
MI: human, when published statements
were made that senators were in iulch
with sugar barons, when circumstan-
tlai evidence was at hand that a huge
monopoly levied tribute on the public thai
.ne american people were helpless in the
grasp OF thS octopus, then it was strange
indeed that any senator should asset thai
the people treat with contempt these
charges. On the contrary, he declared the
people wanted an investigation: they want
ed the honor of the Senate vindicated or
the men who slandered it punished For
that reason. Mr.. Tillman said, he had con-
lempiated an amendment to Mr.. Hoars
proposition, that the commission would
not only inquire into the mere machinerv
OF sugar making, but also whether ihe
sugar trust has used undue means TO CON
trol legislation and to get at rhe root of
now 1t is and why it Is that the American
senate can't touch sugar without getting
contaminated
Mr. Hoar was agar. on his feet and.
speaking with great delberation, made his
response to Mr. Tillman Turning TO the
South Carolina senator Mr. Hoar said
there were some men who seemed to think
that down beneath the body of the people
there was a great mass of seething people
eager for extremes. He knew through and
through the character, purposes and opin-
IONS OF the men who get their living from
the farms and factories of Massachusetts,
He had sprung from a yeoman his asso-
Citations had been with that class, and he
knew what thew thir king
They are" he proceeded impressively,
simple. sincere, honest, liberty-,oving Col
Tearing men. They think no evil, and the
appeal to vile passions falls on deaf ears
with them"
will the senator permit me?" broke In
Mr.. Tillman
men who make up the farms and the fac
tories were the same the country over he
said. Their kinsmen had turned west
ward, building up new empire there. a
land. And I hold" concluded Mr. Hoar
that to the great body of these people.
these charges are not only prepcsterous,
but Infamous"
Mr.. Tillman again was ready with
reply. "As to the seething mass of igno-
rance. as the senator from Massachusetts
had designated the Masses said Mr.. Till
man.
But the Massachusetts senator promptly
interrupted him. Il deny that statement
said Mr.. Hoar. II said just the contrary
and my statement is perverted
Very WELL" answered Mr.. Tillman you
are the last man would be willing to mis-
represent to his face"
While he claimed special mission he
went on. yet he claimed to have come from
the farm and from the people, and to have
come to the Senate more recently than
the Massachusetts senator. He knew, he
said, that the only thing infamous in
this transaction, in the view of the people,
was the refusal to investigate and this ef-
fort to hide behind the senatorial toga."
If the Senate persisted in this. then 1t was
disgraced before the people. Public charges
connection with this subject. And unless
you investigate, you stand convicted" as
serted the senator.
After this diverting incident the Senate
moved to strike out l $500 cents and in
sert 1 $40 cents as the rate on sugar He
argued that the rate Of the bill was too
high and gave exceptional advantage to
the refiners.
This drew from Mr.. Allison an animated
defense of the paragraph. The Senate
paragraph differed from the original House
provision, he said. in only one particular.
difference amounted to only 1-2 cents per
100 pounds. He asserted that the ascending
scale of 3-1O0 cents on each degree above
75 was not an excessive benefit to the re-
ing. he said, that the differential under the
Wilson law Is greater than that of the
Senate provision now under consideration.
He challenged contradiction to these tables,
for, he declared emphatically, he was tired
of these accusations that the committee
had increased by 80 or 60 per cent the pro-
lection to the sugar refiners.
Mr.. Allison Incorporated in his speech a
very Interesting table giving the first de-
tailed explanation from the republican side
of the new sugar schedule. In commenting
upon it he said: II have the absolute cal
culations here and when it is said there Is
protection, or differential, lying in this
scale running from Is to 100 degrees. re-
ply that that differential is not to be seen."
Mr.. Allison then presented a table show
ing the differential on the law of 1894, the
House bill and the proposed Senate sched-
ule, from sugar of 70 degrees up to refined
sugar. The main notes are shown as fol-
lows:
Seventy-f1ve degrees-Differential, 1894,
$780, House, 40.S2: Senate, $3.50.
Eighty Eight degrees 1894.
2S4S: House, 1875; Senate. PASS.
Ninety-six degrees = Differential, 1894,
1882; House, 1873; Senate, 1888.
One hundred degrees-Dinerential law,
1894. 21.S2: House, 1850; Senate, 1000.
When Mr.. Allison was asked why his fig
ures differed from those of Mr.. Aldrich, !
who made the original statement. he an
nwered that his (Alhsonl scale was In sed