The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1897-03-31

- NN4A VI lIS MUSE was OfQered. 1t was
1urther stipulated that the debate
should proceed, but that a second can
pc held before the final vote was taken.
For second time the governors mes.
sage, Vetoing the Hastings bill. was
reported by the clerk, and the battle
royal was on.
Mr.. Staples the Hastings champion.
opened the ball with formal motion
10 reconsider the bill by which the vots
was passed, whereupon several mem.
bers took issue with him in the position.
among them his own colleague Mr.
DonnelIy, who contended that the bill
not the vote, must be reconsidered.
Speaker Jones held that Mr.. Staples
motion was not in order, and that the
question was whether the bill should
or should not pass over the veto. Mr.
staples, having taken a fresh start
opened the battle. After explaining his
friendly relation personally with Gov
Clough, he expressed the view that the
matter had resolved itself into q uues-
ton of opinion. The veto was a con-
stitutional right, but the governor had
gone beyond his right when he had
vetoed without apparent good grounds,
the action, by large majority, of both
branches of the legislature He pro-
ceeded to criticise the wording of the
veto in referring to the matter OF
public policy and the need of MAIN
tanning justice and fair dealing.
ElOuSH . statement that the acts OF
the commission were the acts of state.
was Mr.. Staples thought, an argument
ior the Hastings supporters. Mr.. Stap-
les then reviewed much of the fight
which has already been gone over. in
Guiding the acts of the commission
which Mr.. Staples said the governor
declared had done nothing untoward
or Irregular. He made the further point
that the commission had taken action
favorable to Hastings, and that the
legislature had followed this up.
When the vote was taken Mr.. Stan.
les said 6212 per cent Of the joint bodies
decided in favor of the Dakota county
city, after careful consideration. and
that the governor had taken advantage,
by his veto, of the entire legislature
The second speaker was the-other
representative of Hastings on the flool
OF the house, Ignatius Donnelly. Fol-
lowing the cue of Mr.. Staples, he said
nc had no personal hostility to Gov.
Clough. He had been told that some
OF the people on the floor expected him
to attack the chief executive, but he
wanted to say that nothing was fur
Their from his mind He said that the
governor and he had been personal
friends for long time and although
they had differed politically the gov
ernor had the same right to his opin-
ion that he demanded for himself.
Neither have l any hostility to
<AIlOhd, MI. OOuuGllV went ON. Il a0-
mire the people of any community
that will stand up for their rights and
for their own up-building This emula-
ton has made up prosperous peo-
pie. The extraordinary growth of st.
Paul and Minneapolis has been great
ly caused by this emulation" In sup
port Of this doctrine from a literary
standpoint, Mr.. DOnneIly quoted from
Shakespeare the familiar lines, "emula-
ton hath a thousand suns" He also
disclaimed any i'll feeling toward any
gentleman who had sustained Anoka
upon any of the other votes, and said
that if the question was still what il
had been at the last time it was taken
up and the proposition should be sim
ply whether the asylum should go
either to AnOka or to Hastings, he
should blame no man for expressing
his preference.
But, he argued, this was not the
same case 1t is now a question of
whether the veto should be sustained,
and if the veto were sustained, II
meant that there should not only be no
asylum at Hastings but that there
should be none at Anoka He insisted
there was absolutely no chance for
Anoka to get the asylum in case Hast
lngs were defeated, besides, Anoka
standing in it's own way. He had been
told that there was some proposition
to locate a womans' reformatCry at
as Mr.. DOnnelly proceeded tc show
that any further opposition on the part
OF Anoka would effectually destroy
any chances there might be for such
an institution)
II am almost inclined to think" Mr..
Donnelly said, starting on a new sub
Ject, that the veto power is a mis-
take. 1t is relic of kng-craft When
William, the Norman, the most power
full and terrible brute who ever sat on
a throne, came over from the continent
and conquered the king of England on
the battlefield, he formed despotism,
based upon the doctrine that all power
was lodged in the king and the own
ership Of land should be in the king
Out Of this grew the feudal system; all
legislation had to be brought to the
feet of the king for his approval Grad
ually England has evolved from this
system, so that neither king nor queen
of Great Britain since 1907 has exer-
cised the veto power. This was on the
occasion when Queen Anne vetoed the
act for the colonization of soldiers into
Scotland.
There are eight states III this union.
notwithstanding the fact that our in
situations are copied from those Of
Great Britain in which the governor
has no veto power These states are
Rhode Island, Delaware, Maryland.
Virginia, North Carolina, South Caro-
lima, Tennessee and Ohio. 1t is an I'M
American institution, a relic Of king
craft. England has abandoned it all
except in form, and here we have it
in it's reality | have nothing to say
against the governor Of this state He
is an excellent gentleman, but in no
respect is he intellectually superior to
any one gentleman on this floor. yet
in his message, he says, I know more
than all Of you. When my head was
anOinted with oil and l became COVER
No wisdom became f0r
that of the entire legislature / dcn't
think Gov. Clough would insist upon
this in private conversation. but his
acts speak louder than his words.
Ordinarily, according to Cushing's
manual, only questions Of constitutions
al law are made subjects of the veto.
but this is no constitutional question.