The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1897-02-06

that IL had an agreement with the Mollen-
hauer concern, the National or the 81.
You really do control the product and
price of refined sugar in the United States,
do you not?" asked Senator Lexow
I'VE undoubtedly do, replied Mr. HaNe-
meyer. emphatically. We turn out between
20 and ~ per cent OF the Wnole output
of the country" And L want to say; oidp Ma'
that when we controlled % per cent OF
the whole output the Supreme Court SAID IL
perfectly legal TO do So.
do you ship sugar west OF the missouri
in competition with Mr.. Spreckles! asked
Senator LeXow.
Did you enter into an agreement with
SpreckIes not to compete with him west OF
Missouri
there is out of the question
Senator Lexow wanted To know about At
buckle Brothers relations with the Amer
lean Sugar Refinery Company. and spoke OF
the firm competing with the sugar COM
pany.
Havemeyer. They are wholesale grocers
and handled our products"
WHY did you organize a coffee company
within a day or two? DO you thlhk the
coffee business as alluring as the sugar
busness?"
Yes. l propose to carry on the coffee
business Just as we have the sugar busi-
ness. and that isl state il here in open
court, without fear of contradiction-to the
advantage of the consumer. The margin
three-quarters of cent. Concentration of
large business under one management. with
its consequent economy, allows us 10 put
sugar on the market at q less price thah
separate concerns could afford to do. Green
coffee declined cents in lSyb, but AfDuckle
has lowered the price of the finished prod
uct only 3 cents. thus taking cents a
pound more than his legitimate pront out
of the consumer. | can put IL on the mar
ket at only cent advance over the price pss,oi OF
the raw product. My going into the coftee
business has nothing TO do with Arbuckle
taking his sugar trade from us Ihat Is
pure nonsense Areuekie id Ias ronased 70
do So and is welcome. We are going INTO
the coffee business because there Is held
for legitimate enterprise there.
JOHN ARBUCKLE CALLED.
Senator Lexow then aroused interest and
surprise by calling John Arbuckle to the
stand. Before he questioned Senator
Lexow asked Mr.. Havemeyer:
Are you, with your brother. In complete
control of the American Sugar-ref1ning
Company?
Havemeyer. with some heat. The stock is
held by eight thousand stockholders and no
one man, or two men. or firm, can controi
Mr.. Arbuckle testified that after he had
determined to build a sugar refinery di-
ompany of fhs speaRn to M
How would you like us TO go INTO the
coffee business?" Il felt" said Mr.. Ar
James n. Jarve was called. He said:
Lowell NJ Palmer of the American Sugar
Refinery Company, came TO him and SAID /:
If you start refining sugar We will go into
the coffee business and the Havemeyers
have more millions than the Arbuckles y
Mr.. Fl. o. Havemeyer arose and said:
| Lowell NJ. Palmer had authority to
speak for the Havemeyers or the American
Sugar Refinery Company. If he did SO
| speak. Mr.. Palmer is the head of our coop
erage department. He is not on the direc-
| tory of the company.
| Mr. Jarvie went on to say: wv. Il. Nc
Laughlin, of Chicago, competing roaster.
| came to me and said: L have authority
| from one high in the Sugar Trust 10 say to
| you that If you don't go into the sugar-re-
| timing business they Will stay out of the
coffee business
| Mr.. Havemeyer jumped to his feet an
grily and exclaimed: Il deny most emphat-
| ically that any such proposition ever ema-
| mated from us; il is monstrous. We are
| going into the coffee business regardless OF
| the Arbuckles.''
The committee adjourned until II O'Clock
| tomorrow morning.