The record-union., 1897-03-13

in breakaway, and causes much
trouble and argument. 1t also makes
| the duties of a referee arduous and dis
agreeable and keeps him continually in
hot water. Furthermore, it gives the
referee an opportunity to decide a con-
test on technical foul which is gem
orally unsatisfactory to everybody con-
cerned.'
THE question is" said Julian. what
governed when Corbett fought Sulli-
van"
1T is not a question" said Brady.
When Corbett fought Sullivan was
it not understood and agreed that they
would fight fairly and squarely-should
have no hugging or cIinching?" asked
Julian.
Il believe So" replied Brady.
THE fight" went on Julian, would
have been stopped at the end of the
seventh round if the referee had fol-
lowed the instructions and rules. Ac-
cording to the rules, Sullivan lost the
fight in the seventh round
We want to prevent any more of
that kind of business" said Brady. Il
am perfectly satisfied any time my man
is guilty of any kind of a foul to lose
the fight"
"Corbett," went on Julian. has said
he wanted a fair. square, stand-up
fight. That is all we want. We do
not want any wrestling match, or any
hugging match. We want a purely
scientific contest. Fitzsimmons has
always fought in a fair, square,
straight forward manner. We under
Il
smuggling, or hitting in clinches or in
breakaways. We have never been ac-
customed to that sort of thing. 1
don't think there need be any argu-
ment about it."
Nor do l. said Brady. "The ref
cree interprets the rules"
Il don't think the referee has any
thing to do with it until he gets into
the ring" said Julian.
1T is settled so far as we are con-
oerned," said Brady, being laid down
by the rules. The rules say that any
thing not governed by the rules is to be
controlled by the London prize ring
rules, and they say each man is to
take care of himself in clinch The
articles of agreement say the men are
to fight according to the Marquis of
Queensberry rules"
But the rulec .. SAID Julian. do not
say that there re to be pivot blows"
They say" replied Brady, that they
shall be delivered with the fist. l be-
lieve. This match has been standing
for six or eight months. George SiIer
was agreed on as referee. and as [
understand it, he spoke to Fitzsimmons
on 4 ",
man should take care of himself in a
clinch."
That is not Queensberry rules" said
Julian. This fight is to be under them,
and not the London prize ring rules"
There is no question about that, -
retorted Brady. The men have signed
articles to fight under the Queens
berry rules. 1t is not in your province
or mine to judge. The referee is the
only person to do that"
"Siler," replied Julian, has no more
right to judge the rules than l have"
Then, turning to Siler, Julian said:
you will admit that, George"
Il will not" said Siler IT have not
changed any of the rules. I have sim
ply given my instructions. The reason
l did it was simply to let everybody
concerned know exactly what the rules
are, and net have any Wrangling in the
ring
You say" remarked Julian. that
you object to hitting in clinches, with
one arm free?"
Rule II covers that" replied Siler.
What is the use then, of rule >: No
wrestling or hugging allowed? That is
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either man to lose or win on a foul?"
NO" replied Brady.
You don't want" continued Julian,
either one of these men to finish the
other when he sees he is whipped"
Are you afraid of your MANI" in
quired Brady.
He will be in the ring Wednesday,"
replied Julian, land give a good ac-
count of himself"
Il hope So" said Brady, but l don t
think you do"
Don't you remember" said Julian,
lin the Corbett-Sharkey fight it was
distinctly insisted that there should be
no clinching or hugging?"
1T was insisted by the other side"
answered Brady. but the point is, your
man agreed to it,
Il don't know about that" rejoined
Julian. '|Siler says So l do not. SiIer
did not explain to me at the time. What
has Mr., Stuart to say?"
1t is we'll known fact" replied Ju-
liam, that l am Fitzsimmons' manager.
I have no right 10 recognize you, as [
don't know you are Corbett's man
ager.'
.4.-
said Brady. Il am not looking for anv
advantages. l want plain, common
sense talk. If Fitzsimmons agreed with
the referee to blow in a clinch. with
one arm free, you should not be con-
sidered''
That is what 1 am here for" said
Julian.
After some further talk, in which
the same ground was gone over Ju-
liam said he would be satisfied to have
Stuart and Siler talk the matter over
and would abide by whatever they
agreed to. He asked Brady if that
would suit him.
Anything the referee says will suit
me- replied Brady
Siler and Stuart retired to an outside
room and for about ten minutes were
in close conference. Finally Stuart en-
tered alone, and, coming up to Julian,
who was standing alone al one end of
the hall, he said: well, Martin. SiIer
does not think that he can make anv
change in his ruling, and there the
thing stands"
It's not right, Stuart" said Julian.
after a pause.
We'll. l do not know, Julian"
Stuart rejoined IF you had deferred
this thing to the day of the fobt aud