The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-11-19

4 a. IT'S sir. nOn I remember seeing
| Mr. Massey with them at that time
BY Mr.. Lecky. Did you stop Mr. Folkes
and speak TO him, or not? You know him
very we'll don't you?
A. Yes. sir. know him.
| q. Did you stop him?
A. Yes. sir. l stopped him and spoke
10 him at the door.
BY Mr.. Lamb What passed between
you?
A. j can't remember what 7 said to
him. II was just casual / remember
| q. Did you see them go out Of the
| house together?
A. Mr.. Womaok went down the steps
TO the street and waited there until Mr.
| Folkes came out.
| q. Which way did they so then?
| A. ] don't know, sir.
| q. You didn't see Mr.. Massey?
A. I didn't see Mr.. Massey with them.
| no. sir.
BY Mr.. Lecky. Were you at supper that
night?
A. Yes. sir.
Q. Was Mr.. Massey there at supper?
| a. Yes. sir. / sat next to him.
Q. he was in the house, then?
A. Yes. sir.
BY Captain Wise. Were you at tho
| camp that night?
, A. Yes. sir
@. How did you vote on the resolu-
| tons?
A. I did not vote. sir, at all.
Witness stood aside.
STORY OF THE SCOOP"
Mr.. w ID. Chesterman then testified as
| follows:
BY Mr.. Lamb. Mr.. Chesterman, you
| are with the Dispatch, are you?
! A. Yes. sir.
q. Have you ever had any conversa-
| ton with Mr.. Werner. of The Times, with
| reference to how the Mahood Massey res
] olutions were obtained for The Times
| the night they were introduced in the
| Camp; or, in other words. how The
| Times got the Scoop on the Dispatch
| that night?
A. Yes, sir.
@. How did he say he obtained those
| resolutions?
Captain Wise. One minute Is this
| put in here to contradict your own wit
ness?
Mr.. Lamb. No. sir. We have no wit
ness We are not here as plaintiff or de-
| PENDANT, prosecuting or defending. We
! are trying 10 get at the truth of the mat
| ter. We have no power to make Mr..
| Werner testify. We had him on the stand
last night and oross-examined him and
| cross-examined him. and we could not
| make him testify. Mr.. Chesterman can
| tell us.
Captain Wise. But Mr.. Chesterman
J does not know
/ Mr.. Lamb He knows what Mr.. Werner
| told him. Mr.. Chesterman. did you have
| any conversation about it with Mr. Wer-
| ner?
A. Yes. sir. this morning.
q. How did he say he got those reso-
| lutions?
A. From Mr. Folkes.
Q. Did he say how it happened?
A. Yes. sir. he did.
O. l wish you would tell us.
A. Well. he was particularly anxious
for me to know that II was not true, as
Mr.. Folkes had said, that he had
''swiped' them off the table. He said
Mr.. Folkes gave them to him.
@ BY Captain Wise: You SAID you got
that from him this morning
A. This morning.
o. Did he ccme to you. or did you go
to him?
A. He came to me-
O. At the Dispatch oniceY
A. At the Dispatch office. lie said That
Mr.. Folkes took them out Of the record
b, Oh which he held in his hand THIS way
Indicating by holding book under his
lef ARM. and took them out and gave
them TO him.
Witness stood aside.
Mr.. Lamb: / would like 10 state, I'm
Justice 10 Mr.. Chesterman. that lie dld
not volunteer testimony against Mr. Wer-
ner: but l obtained the knowledge that
he was in possession of such information
from another party. and put him on the
stand, almost against his protest.
Captain Wise: Since you have made
that statement will you state how you
obtained II?
Mr. Lamb: I cannot recolect. Captain
Wise, to save my life. If / can, | will
let YOU know. ] have talked about this
matter right much to-day. / knew Mr..
Chesterman knew II: where that came
from l do not know. but If | do recollect
it you shall have the benefit Of 1t.
MIR. c. b. VESTS FATHER.
Mr. Speight Brooklyn West then adj
dressed the committee as follows
Mr. Chairman, / desire to state that |
am the parent of Mr.. West and you
claim that you want to get at the truth
and wish for fairness in this investigation
as to how this matter occurred. Now, II
does appear TO me. that. II being impos-
sible for Mr. West to be here tonight
although the court has been very liberal
in pcstponing witnesses in going on tho
stand. do think. as you said yourselves,
YOU we're anxious 20 get at the truth and
fairness Of this question. you might with
hold Mr.. Duces testimony until my son
arrives. ] make this statement from the
fact that anything Mr.. Duce might say
that my sen did not get the benefit OF
might be detrimental to him; and his
character is certainly assailed. | ask the
court 10 withhold this testimony one more
night to give him an opportunity to come
here. If that is done. shall feel perfect
" satisfied with the course the commit
tee is pursuing: but II II is not. / shall
certainly not feel that justice is done
Mr.. Lecky: Mr.. West. on last Friday
evening Mr. Clyde II. West testified only
partially. On account OF the lateness OF
the hour, the testimony was continued
10 Wednesday night. because Mr.. West
had made arrangements for a trip 10
New York to the Horse Show. and he
thought ne might possibly break up his
party. On Saturday, about l o'clock. Mr..
West came 10 me and told me that on
the advice OF Colonel Cowardin. he had
decided not TO take his trip to New York.
and he wanted to know If IL would suit
the committee 10 resume the examination
at an earlier date than Wednesday night.
We stated that our witnesses were testi-
tying through courtesy. and that gr>at
many OF them. having seen the announce
ment that the proceedings went over 10
Wednesday night. might have made other
engagements; and that every one OF this
committee had tried TO accommodate
themselves TO the particular case Of This
witness. Al 3 o'clock OF that same day
Mr.. West came 70 me and said, on HIS
own motion that he had decided 70 80
to New York. He said that he would GER