The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-11-18


A Yes. sir. think l told all OF my
friends all the friends could see. iei'
here on Tuesday. and from all ! "a"
that morning I was pretty strong III my
condemnation Of the betrayal, an
O. Yes. YOU use that word in your
letter.
a. Yes. sir s, tho
O. Were you surprised the hisn' 49,.
resolutions were taken up as 10 W. -
sons who appeared for and against '''e'''
A. Yes. sir; I was ,,to,, IN
o. You made speech that night III
support OF them did your
4. Yes. o.oh IN
o. Did anybody else make speech ]"
support OF them?
A BITTER PILL
A. 7 think Colonel Pollard VI q, 80
as I can remember. The 'u," - ia
business Is that after fc" ~ -.
spoken. I was so mad At the ""s -,
were going that | didn't pay ",uI ,ao,.aa
t.ntion to what was COINS on ~ 80,
like everybody was trying 10 - 80
,ror-, ,hem forgot everything MI. Mas
sew said. except that he deh's"
o. But you didn't fotGe'
hands with him. did you? III .
That Is the bitterost PHI / ever
took. ,.or 70 sum
Q. Did anybody promise you 70 sup
port them?
A. Yes. sir. .,ror,;sosy
o. Did they forsake their PROMISES
A. Yes. sir: they did. 90.
O DO YOU know who the History COM
mittee is?
A. Not now. nit. 60
n CReading names Of committee 10
witncss) I will read them.
Mr. Rrander stated positNciY tna'
he would not support them MI rum
was one that promised me MS suPpol',
he would live and die by the resoiu,'oIS
and submit his political future W nm
| Then he turned around. and promiseu me
IN remain neutral in the morning anu III
the evening he went direc'lE oIp"9,'e
and was so mad that after he hnisheu
a. s,oecb col up and said: Il desert
the sinking ship" and apologize" ~ "''
| Massey. .oh ,h.t
night?
O. Did he give any grounds as to why
| he changed? ,.. ,
| was so mad don't remember.
lust remember that the general t.hor oI
| his speech was such that took u 10 ne
| against the resolutions posiuNeiN' ana n,-
ueved that IL had something 10 90 WIN
! rejecting them: so much so that Wheh !
went home I wrote il In my diary-at
least 7 wrote what I believed 10 he MS
reasons for doing that I will read them
to you II you want them.
O That IS not proof. DO you know
ANYTHING OF the cause OF the change In
those parties whom you say betrayed
you? ...-,
4. No sir: except what said-po,'lo'
necessity. / don't know that poSiliN'y.
but / supposed so. | didn't know any
thing else that would do ~ lhousht
so much so that "A few days ago ] wrote
a letter here and was surprised at there
| being any cause for investigation az Tll
Mr. I.amb-Mr. Folkes do you desire
| 10 ask the witness any questions
Mr. Folkcs-I have no questions.
The witness-I wish 20 submit 4 r~>~r
wrote 10 r. Z. Lee Camp. which VIII
| show how / felt after the resolutions
were defeated and will also show-un-
terrupted)-
Mr. Lecky-That is not admissible. That
| is an impression Of yours
The witness-Let me read the letter.
| and then say whether there is anything
| inadmissibe In II.
Mr. Folkes-I submit that is not evil
| dence.
Mr. Lamb-The committee has ruled
| that way.
Mr.. Lecky-You can read the letter 10
| Yourself. and refresh your memory ana
see If anything you wish 10 state Is III
| IT,
witness looks over his letter.
4. The only fact I wish 10 state Is
1 1.au no
| ing those resolutions before Lee Camp
! and the Sons OF veterans. Somebody
| called for the author. and had 10 keep
on hearing them up. simply because j
| didn't choose to reveal the author.
| O. They were published by The Times
4. Yes, sir.
| a We have summoned Mr.. Werner and
| All the staff Of that paper ana OF an
the other papers.
A. would Ike to have Mr.. Werner
here and ask him where he got the reso-
| lutions.
MIR. Lecky-We want to say that we
| will give Colonel Chesterman the oppor-
| tunity Of asking the witness any ques-
| lions he desires.
NV Mr.. Chesterman-Did Mr.. Folkes
| mention any names?
A.-You mean of anybody on the Dis
catch?
Q.-Yes.
A.-No. sir. he just said the Dispatch.
Q.-Mr Folkcs testified here that he
never told you that. Are YOU aware OF
| that?
Al read II in the papers.
| Mr.. FOlkes- lwlsu 600 state that !
| think Mr.. Manhood misunderstood me and
| I will make q statement of what | said
al the proper time. I know Mr.. Ma
hood very well. and I don't think he
would knowingly make an improper
! statement and I will make a statement
Of i; at the proper time.
Mr.. Mahood-I would be very glad TO
| have it.
THE TINES SCOOP
Mr.. Minetree Folkes then testified as
| follows.
Mr. Folkos-Mr. Chairman and Gentle
| men-Witr reference To the statement OF
M. Mahood that / stated that the Rich-
| mond Dispatch had stated that II would
ruin the Dem cratic party 20 push these
resolutions I think Mr.. MahOod mlsun-
| derstOOd my remarks The conVersa-
ton. as we'll as | remember occurred IN
this way. As you remember, The Times.
| T. use a press expression. got scoop
on the Dispatch; the Times got the re-
| solutions and the Dispatch did not. That
caused trouble in a way down at the
Dispatch office. because somebody was
! responsible for the Dispatch not get
ting the resolutions. forget which one
Of the reporters it was now but one or
the ser tlemen interested IN the matter
came up 10 see me, or sent me word
don't remember which now and asked me