The morning times., 1897-02-27
RHODES ON RAND AND RAID
Ex-Premier of Cape Colony Before
the Commons Committee.
BELIEVES HIS ACT JUSTIFIED
Dom Paul Kruger Decla red to Have
Had a Treaty With Germany, Be-
hind Which He Might Ignore Brit
isb SHzernipty-Why Mr.. Rhodes
Has No Faith in Protection.

London, Feb 26-The South African
committee of the House of Commons, ap-
pointed to inquire into the jameson raid
into the Transvaal, resumed its sittings
today, and the examination of Cecil
Rhodes was continued For the first time
since the inquiry began the Prince of Wales
was absent.
Mr. Rhodes admitted that he had in
struoted Mr.. Rutherford Harris, his agent
in London, TO communicate confidentiaiiy
the plans of the secret movement to certain
persons in England, but lie refused to
give their names Asked whether he re-
garded his having force ready to marcn
into the TranSvaal as consistent with his
position as premier of the Cape Colony, he
replied that il was for the committee TO
judge his conduct; it did not appear TO
him inconsistent. Asked concerning the
alluSion in the statement read by him at
the opening of the inquiry to the intcn-
ton Of the Boer government to introduce
foreign influence into the Transv aal, he
said he had adequate grounds for the
statement, hut if he should state his
reason for his belief il mi ght do harm ard
cause irritation TO ii friendly power To
questions in regard to the imperial char
acter OF the proposed federation OF the
South African states, Mr.. Rhodes re
piled: You must remember that when
we federated Canada il was ii local people
federated and the imperial government
finally sanctioned it,
Mr. Blake-Do you think that the end jus
titled the means?
Mr.. Rhodes-IfI had succeeded we should
have lad a union OF Africa. and the Char
tered company would have profited greatly.
As failed, / must take tine responsibility,
and hope that the future will accomplish
the union. | also hope that the commit
tee i'll their deliberations Will take into
consideration the objectsI had in view.
MI. Rhodes was then examined hy Mr.
Labouchere, vino asked him whether Ger
many was the power he believed 10 have
been favored by President Kruger which
question he witness answered in the ar
fiTmative,
In response 10 questions asking for evil
dence III support of his belief Mr. Rhodes
read extracts from speech delivered by
President Kruger, before the German Club.
of Pretoria. on the occasion OF the birth
day of the German Emperor in S95, in
which the Boer president claimed that
Great Britain had relinquiShed her claim
of suzerainty over the Transva al. and .,c-
clared that he had been able TO make
treaty with Germany, so that If one ma.
tion tried to lick the Transyaalcrs other
nations would try TO stop her. Mr.. Rhodes
also said that he had reason for belief
President Kruger intended by this speech
to claim the right To make such a treaty
and confirm it without the sanction Of the
w TO IF 9 -
vaal policy, he added, was in favor Of for
eigners, Germans especially, at the eX-
pense of the English.
Witness referred to the objection raised
by the German minister of foreign affairs
in a speech i'll the ReIchstag TO a CONNER
cial union OF the South African States
as being ely to lead to a political
protectorate and the exclusion of German
goods, and he denied that a policy of
protection existed at the cape.
Protection" he said, means bad fac
tories and bad articles for the benefit Of
privileged few
MI Rhodes further said that in some
of the mines they intended to employ
Americans only, because Of their better
acquaintance with deep levels.
To question by Mr.. Labouchere as to
the meaning OF the words, CIVIL rights,
as used by Mr. Rhodes, that gentleman
answered with much warmth: The Johan-
nesburgers have no civil rights, and no
body OF Englishmen will ever remain in
any place for any period without insisting
on their civil rights"
Evidence showing the animosity of the
Transvaal toward the Cape Colony aud
Great Britain was introduced. in the course
of which Mr Rhodes took from his pocket
and read aloud long extract from a
speech in regard to Crete recently delivered
in the House OF Commons by Mr.. Labouchere.
As he finished reading Mr.. Rhodes said:
IL quite agree with Mr.. Labouchere and
transferred the same sentiments and state
of affairs To the .TranSvaal." a remark
which created "a laugh in which Mr.. Labou-
chere joined.
The committee adjourned until Tuesday.