The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-12-11
"BTG GlME or POKER"
Col. Stubs Describes the Exciting Contest
over the Gambling Table.

Col Stubs Describes the Exciting contest
over the Gambling Table.
General Hundley: l have no further
questions.
The Chairman: Colonel Stubs. are you
a member OF the History Committee OF
the Grand Camp OF Virginia? UNDER
stand from your testimony that you are
also a member of the History Committee
of the United Confederate Veterans Is
that so?
A. That Is true.
O. So YOU occupy that position on the
two committees that are charged with
the interests OF recommending proper
histories to be used in the South?
\. Yes, sir.
q. At the time that you say you had
this game Of cards with Mr. Womack
was not the convention of the United
Confederate Veterans in session!
A. In Birmingham. Yes, sir.
Q. You thing it was then and there
that the consideration arose that resulted
in the giving Of those checks?
A. Partly. yes. sir. said partly.
O. You stated. ii | understand you
correctly. that in that game. or IN some
OF those games played IN Birmingham
MIR. Womack and Mr.. Henry were pres
ent?
4. 7 am not certain. sir, whether cap
tain Henry was present or Mr. Womack
present at every game. but they were
present at some of the games
@. They were both present at some OF
the games?
A. Yes. sir.
O. At that time. as | understand H.
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Book Company and Captain Henry the
University Publishing Company?
A. That was my understanding.
O Did Mr.. Womack and Mr.. Henry go
with YOU 10 Birmingham?
A. think they met several of us at
Danvilie. Mr.. Chairman. / think they
met us AZ Danvire. They went into Biz
mingham together with me. sir
Q. Do you recall whether they stopped
at the same house or hotel?
a. They did. sir
o. Did either one Of those gentlemen
occupv the same room with you or not
A. wired 10 Birmingham. | think. for
a room. Mr.. George Booker. an Ala
bamlan. Captain Henry q don't know the
Alabamian's name). Captain Henry. Mr.
Womack and myself occupied room.
rhink. four or five days. Mr. Booker.
think left before I did. I do not recall
now. sir. what time either OF the other
gentlemen left. but | think, sir. | came
up on the Southern road, coming IN by
Danville. and my impression Is that those
other gentlemen must have gone by the
Seaboard Airline into Norfolk ! think
I remember hearing them say that was
the route they would take. but | cannot
recall whether they came back with me
or not.
o. DO you remember whether Captain
Henry or Mr.. Womack were in any way
Officially connected with the United Con-
federate Veterans Association
A. Mr.. Chairman | want 70 say this:
that do not think Captain Henry was a
soldier. | am under that impression.
Whom we reached Birmingham, Mr..
Womack went out and returned 10 his
room with a badge on-a tin badge, one
OF those handsome badges they had down
there: any member who was down there
will remember them-with the name OF
the regiment on them. He came back
with one of them that had on it, think
Second Kentucky Regiment. company
something-and in the presence Of several
gentlemen standing around. he said l
think: This is a nice badge to carry
nome. 10 SUbN Nudl N'uHihiAA 49,
in" and | at the sane time went out and
got one for the regiment that my brother
WAS in-I think, the Thirty-fourth Nir-
ginia. and my same old company but
did not get one for myself, as | did not
belong to the company at the close OF
the war-Company \. Thirty-fourth Nir-
ginia. .
PAID HIS OWN EXPENSES
O. Colonel | suppose you knew at that
time that WomaCk represented the Ameri-
can Book Company. and that Henry repre-
sented the University Publishing Com
pany?
A. | did. sir. never had the slightest
suspicion OF anything wrong about either
one OF them. I looked upon them Just az
I would look upon any lawyer that was
representing a company, that was con-
yersing with me. | was as innocent-as
lamb. so far as any suspicion being cast
upon me for speaking to these gentlemen
O. The question | am about to ask, an
sure. is not a pleasant one 10 ask. but u
| is in Justice 10 yourself. sir. as well as
ourselves. to get at the facts. | Will ask
Won this question: Did or did not MI
Womack pay any part. or the wnole Oh
| the expenses incurred by you In going &c
| or coming back, or while you were IL
| birmingham?
A. No. not one dime: nor any othei
man; | paid 1t out OF my own pocket as
| poor as | am. | am as poor as any man
here. but | paid every cent OF my o"n
expenses on that trip; no other man paie
| dime Of them.
q. No part OF your expenses ar uh
derstand you. were either directly OF III
directly betrayed by WomacK or hehry
A. No sir nor by anybody else. couit
fll afford it, because | was educating a
that time three boys at college. and
| have tried TO educate six children; but
thought II was my duty 10 so as a mem
her OF the L. c. ". and also as member
OF the History Committee. and / did go
and I think stayed there-I do not re-
member how many days. Il went by the
Danville road and returned by the Dan
Vile road. paying out. forget how much