Evening star., 1897-03-26
Mr.. MORGAN MlSQUOTED
Mr.. Cremer Gives Out an Incorrect Report of
an interview.
An English Advocate of the Arbitra-
ton Treaty Relates His Ex-
perience in Washington.

LONDON March 26-An interview is
published here with Mr.. VIM. r. Cremer,
formerly member of parliament for the
Haggerston division of Shoreditch radicaD.
who has for years past been secretary of
the International Arbitration League and
who is editor of the societys organ. the
Arbitrator. Mr.. Cremer is quoted as say
ing that ne considers it inadvisable to
rat:fy the amended arbitration treaty. He
adds that the British government will al
most certainly refuse to accept the treaty
in Its emasculated form and asserts there
is good reason to hope that in a few months
it will be carried as originally proposed.
Continuing, Mr. Cremer says he will be
greatly surprised if the Americans do not
make their voices heard in such way so
as TO induce the Senate to alter its position
before next session. He adds:
There is no doubt Senator Morgan is the
chief obstacle. When in Washington l had
long talk with President Cleveland rel
ative to arbitration, and Mr.. Cleveland
suggested sounding the Senate. saw Sen
ator Morgan, who expressed warm approval
of the principle.
Tell the President he said, that if he
sends a treaty to us l will get it through
the committee in forty-eight hours
Il reported this to Mr.. Cleveland, and
judge of my surprise when l landed in
Liverpool to read Senator Morgan's violent
attack upon England.
Senator Morgan MisGuOted.
When Senator Morgans attention was
called to the Associated Press dispatch
from London rejecting upon the senator's
course in connection with the arbitra ton
treaty he said:
Mr.. Crerner misstates facts when he
says that | sent a message to President
Cleveland ny him. Why should 1 have
taken that course of communicating with
the President when l was perfectly at lib
erty to see him on my own behalf? Mr..
Cremer did come to see me, and l yielded
reluctantly to an interview with him
the question OF arbitration but told him
very frankly in that interview that the
people of this country would never submit
to the arbitration of American questions
by any board the majority of which
composed of Europeans. and thus indi-
Gated the difficulties in the way of secur-
ing plan of arbitration which would be
such in substance and not ill name only.
Il told him, it is true. that l Endorsed
the principle of arbitration all agree.
l believe, upon our Endorsement of this
principle when that resort is proper, but
It is different matter when it comes 20
uniting upon the details of plan for put
ting the principle into universal operation
l have realized this difficulty from the be-
ginning and consequently never volunteer
ed to Mr.. Crenier or any one else my sup
port of an arbitration treaty at any time.
Certainly l would not have done so before
seeing the document, as his statement
indicates / did.
Il am told, for / was not present that
when Mr.. Cremer was before the commit
tee n foreign relations he was asked why
parliament did not take the initiative if it
was anxious for universal arbitration, and
that his 1eply was 10 the effect there that
II the United States would take the initia-
tive this acticn would influence the Brit
ish government in giving consent to the
10 of Rrit tieb
commons.
Il think l have the right, without being
criticised by Mr. Cremer, to inquire what
new motive has urged that government
INTO activity in adopting this peace pro-
gram OF the commons, which seems to
have 10 application in Europe and no
present ground of application TO the
United States"