The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-11-18


day evening. regarding the ruihofs at
lacking the Grand Camps History COM
mittee. or that of r.. T.. Lee camp, NO
I Sons of Veterans? Have you had Il
conversation with any one?
A.-Well, / had conversation win
Mr. Duce. lie told me practically what
he related here at the meeting iast frl-
day night; in substance. it was all lie
aid not 60 over that whole story, but he
related II under somewhat peculiar CIR
cunstances
BY Mr. Lambda you have CONVEX
sation with Mr.. Duce at Murphy's Hotel
in reference 10 the matter?
Alt was not at Murphy's Hotel; it
was on Broad street.
Captain Wse-Does this allude to Mr..
West?
Mr.. Lecky.-No. sir, it alludes to Mr..
Ruce
Captain Wise-May it lead up to Mr..
West?
Mr. Lecky-Yes. sir. it may.
Captain Wise-I object to this. Let Mr..
Duce come forward and testify.
Mr. Lecky-It corroborates Mr.. Duce,
Captain.
Captain Wise-Iow can n man corro-
borate himself in that way? Nobody
can corrobOrate himself in that way.
can tell story here, and then go down
and meet a dozen men and tell 1t TO
them and they can come here and say
that told them. but that does not cor
robOrdte me.
Mr.. Lamb-This is in regard to GER
tain rumors. Captain Wise interrupts)
Captain Wiss-But you certainly know
that is no corrohoration. to ask witness
II another witness told him the same
thing.
Mr.. Lamb-we think the question is
proper.
Captain Wise--I object 10 II.
Mr.. Lamb-Mr. Noel. you say that you
had a conversation with Mr.. Duce?
Al had a conversation with Mr..
Duce. We met at Murphys Hotel, /
think IL was. Sunday night a week ago.
He was coming from church. he had
books under his arm. and i think he said
he had been playing the organ at some
churcS. We walked up the street to-
gether. and the conversation we had
took place on Broad street.
Q.-What happened?
A.-Well, Mr.. Duce met me there, and
asked me If l was going up town. and it
didn't live up town. | said / did.
lie said he lived up town and we would
walk together. lie waited until | was
ready. We came out on the street and
M. DUce said 10 me: II nave got a thing
on my mind that is worrying me some
what. and ! want TO tell you about It. be-
cause ] want 10 ask your advice as to
how ] should proceed l am fearful
they are going 10 summon me as a
witness in this investigation. From
what l can gather. think they are going
10 summon me on account OF some mat
tiers l related to Mr.. Cox. Mr.. Lecky,
General Brander and perhaps two 9TH
ers, and he went on TO tell me the matter
that he testified TO before this commit
tee last Friday night. and then he asked
me what he should do. l asked him;
Mr. buCe. have you said anything TO
Mr.. Woodhn. Mr.. Chesterman or Mr.
Cowardin about this natter"
Mr.. Lamb What was the matter?
A. Well, he went on and told me about
Mr.. West; what Mr.. West had told him.
IL was practically the same story that
he related before the committee.
Q. You heard him testify the other
night here?
A. Oh. yes. What he said then was the
same thing that he told me exactly: pre-
cisely the same thing he told me.
@. He came to you and asked you for
advice as to what TO do I'm the mat
teri
GAVE HIM ADVICE.
A. Yes. Mr. Duce asked me what TO
DO about H. He said he was greatly wor-
ried and distressed and had gone to West
aud told him that he was afraid that ne
was going 10 be summoned to testify
In this matter. This was on Sunday
night. He said: 81 slept very little last
night. thinking about this matter. am
greatly disturbed about this matter, Tor
fear I should have 70 80 there and tell
about It. ! want 10 know what shouS
40 about H." asked him: did you ever
tell Mr.. Woodhn. the city editor OF me
pispatch, Mr.. Chesterman. or Mr.. CO.
vardln about IT." lie said be had moi,