The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1897-01-10

his remarks, but L want 10 say Inal
every member from the Pacific coast
opposed to the bill was shut out of the
debate yesterday, and ] shall consent
only on condition that at least some
of us on this side have our time eX-
tended.
Mr. Hepburn (Rep. Ia.)-There viii
be no consent given TO that. II you
stayed out Of the debate yesterday it
was .1on your own election, and the
tire today is not to be consumed in
that way.
Mr.. Grosvenor (Rep. o. without at
tempting, he said, 10 add anything to
the argument on the affirmative side
Of the question, briefly gave the rea-
sons why he should support the bill.
The question should be settled in the
interests of the government and of the
roads and the present proposition he
believed to he The best that could be
obtained, although it might not be all
that equity demanded.
Mr. Dockery {Den. Mo- said he
should vote against the bin for the rea-
son that adequate information respect
ing the condition Of the corporations
had not been furnished. Congress was
entitled, he said, to a full financial
statement, and that had not been
given.
A WARNING.
Mr. Arnold CRep. Pa. discussing
some figures circulated by Mr.. Hub
bard (Rep. Mo- relating to the sew
eral propositions purportlng TO nave
been made in the past by the railroad
companies and warned the committee
that the defeat OF the bill meant the
issue by the next administration of
$50 600 of bonds TO pay first liens
upon the property, or the abandon
ment of the claim of the government.
Mr. HilbOrn (Rep. CALI opposing the
wicked BILL called attention to the
fact that the Central Pacific people
would not be required by the Dill TO
give the government a mortgage upon
the present overland line of the road
from Sacramento TO Oakland, but the
government would get a mortgage
upon the old Western Pacific line,
abandoned long ago, except Tor purely
local purposes. The railway privileges
and property, OF which the majority
report made so much, had, since the
railroad officials appeared before the
committee, been transferred to an
other corporation and, OF course, the
railroad company would not now mort
gage them. In support of this he read
z telegram from the city assessor of
San Francisco.
Mr. Powers, (Rep, Vt.). chairman of
the Pacific railroad committee. denied
the truthfUlness of the statement just
made and said it Was a sample of the
manner in which the opposition to the
bill had been carried on. He undertook
to say that the railroad company had
not. for two years AT least, disposed OF
any Of its property, but that it lid all
been consolidated into the pOss -ssiOn
Of the company and the government
would get a mortgage on it in its en-
tirety.
Mr.. Hilborn Haunted the assessors
statement. but Powers, waving it
telegram. It comes from an interested
party, as interested as the gentleman.
himself.
Mr. Hilborn-It comes from a city
official and an honorable man.
POWERS sCORN.
Mr.. Powers (scornfully)-A city Off
cialI So is Mayor Adolph Sutro a city
official and they are all engaged in
a conspiracy to force the government
to take the road and operate it in the
interest of the state of California and
at the expense of all the other states
in the Union. The man who sent the
telegram, / undertake to say, does not
try 10 tell the truth.
Mr.. Mcguire lDem., CALI, said the
pending bill was the worst ever Of
fered to congress for the settlement of
the Pacific railroad debt. Two years
ago. the house voted down an infinitely
the reason that it Gid not sufficiently
protect the interests of the govern
ment
Mr.. Hepburn, (Rep., Ia), made good
his notice given earlier in the session
by Directing to permitting Mr. Ma
guire to continue in general discus
sion of the subject after his five min
utes had been exhausted.
Mr.. Henderson, (Rep., Ia, advocated
the passage of the bill because. if
nothing was done foreclosure must fol-
low with a total loss of the govern
ment's claim. This was, at least, an
effort to save it. and that much il was
the duty Of congress to do.
Mr.. Lachlan, Rep., CALI, opposed
the bill, referring in the course CT his
remarks. to the assertion that the man
ayers of the Central Pacific had bur
dened the people of California with
unjust rates Tor transportation.
To this Mr.. Watson, (Rep., %, re-
piled, comparing charges on the Pa
cific roads with local rates in the east
and finding them reasonable and pro-
per.
Mr.. Bartlett, Dem., n. ", opposed
the DILL. declaring it the most infamous
measure ever proposed in this cOnnec-
ton.
Messrs. Cannon, (Rep.. I'D. and
Kyle. Dem.. Miss.), advocated the
passage of the bill, the latter contro
verting especially the statement of
Mr. Mcguire that the bill extended
the payment of the debt of SO years.
He had figured it out and under the
terms of the bill the debt and interest
would be extinguished in II years.
MIR. Maguire-DOes the bill provide
that the debt shall have been paid a
the expiratio of a years2
Mr.. kyle-It does not, but is the COM
panies fail to carry out the provisions
of the bill, the government is more
amply secured than at present.
Is MISTAKEN.
Messrs. Harrison, Dem.. Ala.). and
Bell, (Dem., Tex, stated that Mr.. Hill
born was mistaken in the statements
he had made, being misied by a tele-
gram from somebody, who ii was the
committee did not know.
a strong speech against the bill was
made by Mr.. Grout, (Rep., Nt), who
charged that the constructors OF the
road not only cheated other people. but
had cheated congress in the dealings
over the roads, and it was the bust
duct of these men in the past in de-
and in the future.
Mr.. Knox, (Rep., Mass.), said the
frauds perpetrated upon the people Of
New England and the east in the mat
ter of constructing the Pacific rail
roads was not the first nor the last in
the list Of wTOngdoing Of that kind in
connection with western roads. IF |
half the officers and directors said