The times., 1897-06-15

| ldilll GOn.t-ES>-Ou " HOs a sNePt'Ss-Nss'-
measure. 1t was introduced 10y Sena'
| tor Eaton (Deln,, of connecticut
| Mr.. Tillman here arose to reply to
| Senator Hoar. Mr.. Tillman was .tased.
His face, usually ruddy, had become sud
denly pale. Everybody expected him to
say something either sensational OF snappy
What he said had both qualities.
He began by expressing his high opinioil
OF the integrity and patriotism of the
Senator from Massachusetts tMr. Hoarl.
The Senator from Massachusetts, how
| ever, bad been SO long in the Senate that
! he was not in touch with the people OF
the day. IF Mr.. IIoar were familiar with
present feeling on this Sugar Trust scandal
he would know that the best people ON
! both sides do not regard these charges and
| accusations against Senators with con
| tempt Mr.. Tillman said he was satisfied
that the people were not satisfied with
matters as they stand, Continuing, he said;
mot one III a hundred. MI President, is
satisfied that there was not corruption N
framing the sugar schedule-both the on'
| now a law and the one under considera-
ton
Three weeks ago 1 offered q resolu-
tion, asking an investi ga lion of these
charges They have been made by men
who are permitted. to come into that
(the press gallery; sit there by the
! privileges Of this Senate, and send out
reports under theiY own signature chare-
| ing directly that Senators are speculating
in sugar stocks. They charge that Sena-
| tors are in touch with the sugar harons,
! Uavemeyer and others, and when the
trust, a monopoly, VIGOROUSLY and
trust, monopoly which notoriousiy and
avowedly controls the sugar market and
| levies tribute upon consumers, and that the
| American people are helpless in the grasp
| of this octopus, which has throttled our
| freedom. through the instrumentality OF
| this Senate, I say that any Senator who
| undertakes to say that the American
| people are treating these charges con-
| temptuousIy is entirely mistaken
''The people want invest gat.on. They
| want these charges cleared up. They
| want the men under acccsation cleared
| of the iniputations made, and the feputa-
| ton Of the Senate restored or the men
| who have slandered the Senate punished
ana denied the privileges Of coming aeie.
| If these correspondents have lied they
| ought to be shown up, but if they can
! prove their charges the Senate should act
| | was going to offer an amendment that
the commission suggested by the SeDa-
| tor from Massachusetts, which would be
composed of honorable men (oI il would
| not be appointed should take into the
! scope of its cons defat.on not only how
1 sugar is refined, and what is the reason
| able aud proper taliff 10 protect Ameri-
| can labor and capital against foieign
| competition, but whether TIE Sugar TriIs;
| has used undue means or impIoTer meth
eds to cOnttul legislation, and to 90 10
| the root of how II is and why Z is that
| the American Senate cannot touch sugar
without being contaminated"
Mr. Hoar replied that he thought he
/ knew as much aboat the masses of the
| people of the United states as did the
| Senator from South Carolina about the
! true character OF the men who got their
! living on the farms and in all the indus
tries Tie himself was sprung from a
! race OF Massachusetts yeomanry. He
knew the men who had built up the
| great agricultural and manufacturing
states He paid a uibute 10 the OH
! Virginia stock and said that the integri
and honor OF the people We're reflected
in the Representatives. in the House and
the Senate. In conclusion Mr.. Hoar saif;-
And l hold that these charges upon this
great body are not only nreposterous. but
| / think they are Infamous
Mr.. Tilman- i desire TO say as to the
| seething masses of ignorance to which the
| Senator -"
Air. Hoar-If the Senator win permit
me, 1 said no such thing. l referred 30
the notion that there was such a thing, and
said there was no such thing as that. l
90 not want my language OF meaning to
be perverted
Mr Tllman-I am not going to try
to pervert your meaning You are the
last man | would try TO pervert-to his
| face. lLaughter.) AS l understand the
| Senator, he seems TO think that he knows
as much about the masses as l do.
| While ] clain NO special mission he re
as a representative OF the masses, l do
claim 10 have come here much more re-
| Gently than the Senator from MaSsachu-
| sets, to he a farmer, and to have re-
Ceivcd thousands of letters from friends in
| the South and Northwest have received
| hundreds within the last ten days--hGn
| GTeds since the introduction OF the reso-
| luton. | know that tie American people
do not consider the charges Infamous: and
unless we Prove them so by bringing
| the witnesses TO the bar OF the Senate
and making them answer the questions
! TO hide behind tho Senatorial to-a or 10
! claim that We are so high sn, noble as
| to be beyond criticism rs a cons Ssiou of
| guilt in the eye of the people. aud they
| Will consider the Senate disgraCed IL they
dare not investigate charges made. Gy
| respectable correspondents, over their own
| Signatures. When | introduced the re o.
| luton l stated l had no animosity to-
| ward Senators L was absolutely I'M
partial ir calling attention to the fact
| that in 1894 accusations were made
| against the Democratic Finance Commit
| tee, and now they are made against the
Republican Finance Conmittee-th same
charge, that the trust controlled the SEN
ate, and could get any differentlal it
wanted; that bribery was used, that men
acting as attorneys or otherwise Of trusts
| were receiving compensation, or dishonor-
| able money.
Il believe 1t, shouted the Senator, land
| | ask for an Investigation. 1 have hal
| Information furnished-me by persons who
| say that they will prove that Senators
have been specializing. If they do not
furnish that information when asked. they
| are liars. If you do not comply, you
| will be In the position of saying that
you are afIaid to investigate"
Mr.. Lindsay resumed the debate and
made another attack on the trust He
was catechsed by Mr. Hoar, who asked
him specifically what he thought the duty
| should be for the refiners to make reason
able profit