The herald., 1897-07-20


II refuse to answer that question"
ION what ground" inquired the court.
ION the ground that it would tend to
incriminate myself"
The point was we'll taken, and Judge
Smith asked counsel what he had to say.
Attorney Oliver, for the defense OBJ
tanned permission to ask the witness
some questions. and quite an interest
ing colloquy ensued.
IF you did assist in carrying a gun
to Kid Thompson" inquired the coun-
sci, did you do so as feigned accom-
plice?"
II refuse to answer that question"
was again the reply.
The witness was advised blythe court
that the question was proper one.
well, it might be called that" Harris
answered.
IF you did so as pretended accom-
plice did you intend that the gun should
reach Kid Thompson"
$50 1 understood"
Did you understand that 1t would be
intercepted by the authorities?"
Il learned from Kramer to that eff
feet"
The witness continued to hesitate, ex-
planning that he was afraid of hurting
his own rights, although he was assured
on that point by the court.
Mr. McComas interposed and wanted
to know if witness had a conversation
with the defendant about carrying a gun
to kid" Thompson. Witness replied
that he never had such conversation with
the defendant but conceded that he had
received gun from Harvey Jenkins at
his (witness) room.
II brought the gun up to the Jail and
left it in the water closet" he said. II
saw Kramer and he had given me to I'M
derstand that if 1 brought the gun to
I told him what 1 had done left the
jail" (Witness identified the pistol as
that of the defendant)
Mr. Harris, were you subpoened Ly
the prosecution in this case?" inquired
Mr.. oliver on cross-examinaticn.
mo, sr'
II understand you had a conversation
with Kramer"
Yes, SIR
What did he say to your"
He told me to bring a gun and It
would be al right"
What do you mean by all right?"
That l would get into no trouble"
you understood that the jail officers
knew about the scheme?"
yes. sir"
''Tell us all about It," iuterpc.ed Judge
Smith.
Kramer told US that Kid Thompson
was supposed to break JAIL" said the
witness, land Topper was to send gun
in; and he asked me to carry letter to
Maggie Brown. He told me that Kid
Thompson had told him, and he gave me
to understand that l was to pretend l
knew nothing"
Did he say Mr.. Kennedy knew about
it?"
HE told me Mr.. Kennedy had said Il
would be all right"
"Did you see Mr. Kennedy when you
took the gun to the jail?"
II saw him when l was coming out"
Did you not see Mr.. Kennedy when
you went in, and tell him you had the
gun and he said it was all right?"
Il don't remember making that re-
mark"
DO you remember telling me that in
my Officer"
L no NOT.
"And if you did, was it true or false?"
at was false"
"Do you remember telling Attorney
Theodore Martin, in his office, that at the
jail you met Mr.. Kennedy, and that you
told him that you had the gun in your
pocket, but that you didn't want to get
into any trouble, and he told you that it
would be all right, and your name would
not be known"
II may have had the talk, but what
I said about Mr.. Kennedy was false"
do you remember also saying that af-
ter leaving Kramer, when he suggested
the scheme, you met Kennedy and asked
him if it was all right, and he said that
it was and that they wanted first TO in
tercept the gum"
Il don't remember saying that to Mr..
Martin"
What time did you take the gun in to
the jail?"
Il think about 1880. I told Kramer
and he said he would get it out Of the
closet as soon as possible"
when were you arrested on this
charger"
ut was in the evening, at about $780,
on the night took the gun in"
did you see Mr.. Kennedy when taken
to the jail?"
mo. sir, I did not"
Where did they put you?"
UPS tairs."
"In the women's Department."
"There was witness against Kid
Thompson there"
when did you first see Mr.. Kennedy 2"
"Next morning"
did you have a conversations"
"Only to speak"
Ibid you ask him why you were ar
rested?"
II knew why I was arrested"
was it understood that you were to
be arrested?" again queried Judge
Smith.
mo, sir; not from what Kramer told
me, and l told Kennedy what Kramer
had said, and he walked away"
when you took the gun from Jenkins
to Kramer there was no intention of the
guns reaching Kid Thompson, was
there?"
mo, SIR"
"How long were you confined in the
jail?"
"One night and a day."
"At whose instance were you liber-
ated?"
Il don't know" with sarcastic smile.
Under any bonds?"
mo, sir