The Anaconda standard. [volume] (Anaconda, Mont.) 1889-1970, 1897-05-17
JUDGE M'RAE'S IDEA
BE Holds That Miners Should Pay
for The Timb,r They Uss
BUT FREE TO PRosPECToRS
The Debate In the House, In Which
Hartman Gives the Arkansan
Few Valuable Tips-Cos-
sip at the Capital.
Special Correspondence OF the Standard.

Special Correspondence Of the Standard.
Washington. May la-The debate In the
house on the question OF the revocation
OF cleveland's forestry order has been tho
interesting feature this week.
In the course OF the debate Judge Nc
Rae OF Arkansas said that the Anaconda
Mining company got a permit last year
| to cut H0o0.Q0o feet and exceeded the limit.
lie asked: Are you gentlemen from the
mining states to tell US that mining COM
pany like that should be given a license to
cut free OF cost from the public domain In
the heart OF the great reservations OF our
country In addition to the free access to
the other timber OF the United Statesg'
Mr.. McRae proceeding said that his own
bill-whlch had been proposed by way OF a
substitute for the order OF revocation-did
not allow timber cut free FOR manufsctur-
ing purposes and did not allow.a corpora
tion engaged In mining. but the individual
| settler. who Is prospecting. 10 cut wood
/ for his camp fires and all things OF that
sort while he Is locating his property and
preserving his claim. The main dner-
enoe between my bill and the senate
amendment" he said, is that under mino
he must pay for his timber at the mar
ket price after he begins the actual work
OF mining. while under the amendment
the miner gets Il free"
MIR. Hartman-Do understand the gem
tlemen to mean that men engaged In the
mining industry can obtain timber where
with TO carry on their occupation In order
TO carry on their prospecting
Mr.. McRae-It does not make II impossi-
BILE at all. but Il requires them to pay for
It after the mine Is developed. That Is tho
only difference.
Mr.. Hartman-What use has a prospec-
tor for TIMBER lie has no use for 1t In the
world. He takes his pick and shovel. he
makes little cut In the ground and that
Is all the prospecting. IL Is the miner that
wants timber.
Mr.. McRae-If II Is the miner, and he es-
tablishes his mine. like the miller who es-
tablishes his MILL he should pay for Il.
Take farmer In my country. IL he cuts
u tree on the public lands, he Is arrested
and put In jail; but In the region We ar.
now considering the Anaconda mine has
cut 1a,oooVoo feet of lumber for which II has
not been required TO pay a cent and II has
had the written permit Of the government
to do 1t.
Mr.. Hartman-The gentleman cannot
avoid jumping upon some great mining
company Why. supposed II was the pur-
pose and intent of this government TO
encourage the great mining Industry. Ac-
cording 10 the gentleman IL seems not. IL
seems from his Idea that man who goes
Into the mining business Is criminal per
So. DO YOU know what that one company
that you have so great an animosi,y
against has done for the United States In
ths last u months IL has marketed In
this country IL. .Ot0. .000 pounds OF copper at
an average OF about ios. cents "A pound.
and paid out In wages and for supplies
more than tlo0o0.0Vo. Montana's copper
mines produced in one year more that
S2so0.0oo In money.
Judge Lacey OF Iowa-Well. the mine
producing that amount of money, could
not Its owners AFFORD to pay for their tim
ber instead OF trying to get IL free Of
charge from the public domain,
| MIR. Hartman-In the first place. Mr..
Chairman. the distances that timber has
TO be- transported In that country and the
great cost OF wages-for wages are higher
there than In the East. and am glad OF
II. and | want them always to be- higher
the great distances that timber has To bs
transported aud the expense OF railroad
transportation adds greatly TO the cost
so that. as has been stated by one of my
colleagues here. the cost reaches as high
as ti5. SIS or 81 per thousand by the time
the timber Is delivered at the mine and
men could not afford to carry on many
of the mines I'm the great West unless
they were able to get their timber upon
the terms on which they have got II In
the past.
Again. take lead. The price has been GO
Ing down hill and It will continue to go
down hill as long the American people
undertake to do business upon a contract
Ing standard OF money. Applause on tho
democratic sidel The price of lead and
other commodities has been going down.
and II Is still going down. and II will con-
tinue to do so. and yet you propose TO
close up many OF the mines. which are
barely able to make both ends meet under
existing laws II they had TO pay the gov
ernment for the timber they require many
mines that are now just able IA run would
be forced to close.
Mr.. Chairman. there are many things
which would like to add. but my time Is
limited. ! desire. however, to call the at
tention OF the committee to one matter
before close. II is in connection with tho
circular which the gentleman from South
Dakota sent to the clerks desk TO bs
read. There was an express provision that
n publication should be made in the pa
pcrs a certain number OF times. that no.
tice should be given OF the hearings ON
the question Of the setting apart of these
reserves.
, Now. desire to say that not one syla-
! BILE OF notice was ever given TO repre-
sentative or senator or a state officer
or citizen resdinlg within the limits OF
our state OF the Intention OF the commis-
sion TO recommend the setting aside OF
these reserves, and upon that condition oc
affairs the president enters Judgment No
notice, no knowledge. no nothing but tho
rAked order. | submit that the amend
msnt ought to be concurred in
Senator Mantle said to the standard cor
respondent to-day that he Is confident that
the administration will eudeavor 10 secure
retirement OF the grecnhacks after tho
failure OF the international conference.
The effort will be made he said TO
pass legislation along the lines asked for
by the National Bankers associations"
NO legislation Is necessary" said Sena-
tor Cannon. III the administration is dis
posed TO take any such course as that il
y only necessary for the DinEley bill 10
produce sufficient revenue to support tho
government In that event the greenbacks
could be retired under existing stat
utss.'
"oh, YOU are all wrong" said Mlnneso-
IA silver man. who was with the senators.
sircastically. As soon as the lnterna-
ttonal conference Is known to be a failure
President Mckinley will come out for free
and unlimited coinage himself. Then
where viii your Mr.. Bryan be9''
Well. said senator Cannon. II Mr.
Bryan Is in no worse peril from any
source than is offered By thar possibility
he MI Ill.