The evening times. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1895-1902, 1897-05-13
CHAPMAN WILL SURRENDER
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would it not be proper to consider Il
Allen resolution?

would it not be proper to consider the
Allen resolution?
Mr. White thought still that the Presi-
dent ought not TO be intertered with.
What would be the HARM" inquired
Senator Chandler, ''if the Senate hhould
say TO the President that this was not a
case OF cleinency?'
Mr. White replied That protests might he
made by individuals, but the Senate, acting
in a body, in this matter, would set bad
precedent.
Mr. Chandler maintained that IL was
proper resolution; not merely as to Chap
man, hut its passage would have an effect
on others.
Mr Tniman-I would like to ash this
question: IL the event that Chapman goes
TO jail, and suffers his punishment is 1T be-
yOnd the jurisdiction Of the Senate that
he be brought here, the investigation be
continued, and held for a new orfense?
Mt. Chandler wanted to know if Mr.
Tillman would remain standing while he
answered After some Senatorial badin-
age. Mr. Tiilman exercised his preToga-
tive OF sitting down and sat down.
Mr. Chandler answered III this way:
Il don't believe the witness has passed
beyond the Jurisdiction Of the Senate,
either theoretically or actually"
After reviewing the case, MI. Chan dler
sid that he could not conceive of the
President pardoning Chapman after ali
the tIibulations of the committee, the
tribuIations of the court and the t1ibuia-
tious of the newspaper press
Mr Tillman-We are not after Chapman
hATEa
speculation in the Senate Only a day or
two ago IL Was stated by two correspond
ents that three Senators had sneculated.
The sum and substance Of 1t Was that we
should do something or shut up. We are
after Havemeyer and other SraAdees.
Either investigate the true criminals or
hush
He thought ii was a very serious ques-
tion and regretted the flippaGcy with
which il had been discussed by the Sen
atnr from New Hampshire. The Senate,
Mr TiIman said. had the power to punish
its own Finance Committee If it had Teen
brought with reference to changes in the
sugar schedule IL was a matter of noto-
ricty, he said, that correspondents in the
press gallery bad stated facts reflecting
on Senators over their own signatures.
Mr.. TillIuun's remarks produced a sensa-
ton in the galleries.
After the lecture by MIR. Tiilman Mr..
Chandler began TO talk seriously on the
Allen resolution.
Mr. Allen broke into the argument to
say that if the Senate did not act it would
be contemplate in the eyes Of the world
1t was absurd to talk of the indeliCacy OF
tie resolution. The country might as well
understand now that If the Senate lodged
the question i t was gone for all time.
Mr. Chandler You are too pessimistic
Mr.. Allen On the contrary, have been
optimistic all the time.
Mr. chandler said that he did not think
Mr.. Allen should have made the remark,
rejecting on the integrity OF the Senate
or its committees. He would ask that the
resolution 90 to the Committee on Privi
Iegcs and Elections. He himself thought
| that something ought To be done.
Mr.. Allen replied that he was used to be
characterized by Mr.. Chandler, but il
was fact all the same that dozens Of feSo-
| iutions died natural deaths and were buried
in committees. What had become. for in
| stance of his resolution syinpathizing with
| the Greeks.
Mr. Chiffon said that one objection to the
| resolution intimated that Mr.. Chapman
| oughtto he pardoned. Heidi not think TIL
itwastime that the Senate could be charged
with intrusion in the case before the Prea
dent, because there was an independence
| between the Senate and the court 10y which
| he was convicted.
The Allen resolution OF Mr. Chapman was
| finally referred to the Judiciary Committee
Mr.. Morgan asked that the Cuban rcsolu
ton go over until Monday. This was done.