The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1897-01-23

than wenty years, directly or Indirectly. and
that Mr.. Uiadstons himself had expressed op.
position 10 IL in tue Honse Of Com mons twenty.
i've years ago. rhs idea" he added imp.tu-
III Jou don o, dispo ~ thai treaty in twenty.
fear bonTs ynu arc 10 have spurs damned into
Sns si re- T. yo5 sosa to do s6So,lMr
GRAY Dem Dci.l asked in a tone OF calm meas
sS TS Mr. H have as
the pubic IN this matter than We would have 10
episied 10 n matter ~ public importance in.
voivins so many things for tho welfare OF hu.
sn, hss las se sna G
criticism OF the senate are out of place. aud
The pusid discussion of Great questions. But
". cannot remedy that: and do not think that
any Senator will be- forced out OF his own sense
Of propriety by such int mpe rate zeal or intern
Mr. Hoar- The Senator asks what We are
to point gu, TO the very excellent. worthy. aud
we'll meaning men who nrs doing this that the
matter Is still l., course Of diplom attic disousso on
for them to attempt to Affect that diplomacy.
will eco IL themselves and will desist.
Mr. Gray-I think that the Senate Of tho
United States will perform its duty with due
ceases or not.
Mr.. Cullom. member OF the Committee on
the views OF Mr.. Hoar. There had been three
m ee tinRs of tho committee since the treaty was
rsoeived. II had been read At the FIRST meetins.
and laid over until the second. AZ some MEM
bers OF the committee were absent at the sec
ono meeting. the matter had been laid over to
the part OF the com IN ittco to delay action the
treaty moment after the comtnfttee was salts
wa. himself concerned. he believed in the gen
eral proposition embraced In the treaty, but Was
unwilling 70 vote for treaty 80 extensive IN Us
he was acting In the interest Of the Init.d
tiaH< hat he NFAn w mt n N n
United states In = war not expected. When
satisfied OF that he was ready TO vote for tho
Mr.. Lodge titep.. Mass.l said that he was ,eI,
tremely glad that his colleague lMr. Hoarl had
deal S Observation-Disclosures. srsa. many per.
sops were writing and telegraphine to him tSir
Lodge and TO other senators. apparently under
the Impression that the arbitration treaty vas vas
; natter OF in,ernH,i ., arbitration between
cussed generally for many years. and this par
en ,rss Ma S.sn ~ psGs iS, between wv MI,
The treaty had not Seen ,en days Jay in shs
se TS. s.,r.,,., s,, o,,r .,,..,., ,.,,,.
the Committee ON Foreign Relations on Wedncs-
day last. and the committee had only just sue
ceeded In getting the necessary Information.
While all Senators. no thought. agreed with
thu general principles involved. they might dis
tss provsions of the 'reasy il would not con.
duce to the cause OF peace between nations 20
make maxi an arbitration treaty which should; per,
causes Of disagreement that might lead to it's
immediate remuneration. That would set back
There were grave differences OF opinion ms to
whether. under this treaty. great question or
national policy. which had been the American
policy for years like tho Monroe doctrine. was in
y1tved In IL or not. There were questions whether
the Nicarssrn Canal bill, now under eonsidera.
tion In the Senate. was involved In IT. These
were not questions which the Committee on
Foreign Rel.,ions or the Senate could dispose
Rfk ~ ltraA FnNs H. a~laht Al
league, and his. own attitude Of the gen.
the attitude OF the senate. and had seen III to
explain to the country the circumstances under
and that far tsTs benS any delay
Committee on Foreign Relations. having got
the necessary Information: was proceeding 10
rspidity.
MIR. Hawley Rep. Conn., advocated careful
discussing the general subject, said II was a
matter TOR conRratulat.on that the United
old quarrel with vsnesuela. - e'''
Mr.. Sews!l Rep. \. - said his desk was
to act ,es ,m az
enough TO ascertain the full scope Of this treaty
so that they mirht understand thoroughly all
It's text. The Monroe doctrine. the Nicaragua
Canal the CLAYTON. Bulwer treaty. and many
Snaer mi. ss sna nn the
was carefully investigated before being ratified.
IL WAS probable that IL might give Us more
trouhl. than II we had no such convention.
MIR. Stewart Pop. New saw little reason to
apologize for refusing to obey the dem nds % an
imperious public expressed IN its first clAmor.
This treaty was n ubject OF such vast impo
TANGO that II must necessarily consume time.
The United States was not on equal terms with
Great Britain in making an inter rational treaty.
Mr.. Stewart proceeded. despite the rules Of the
Senate, TO discuss the merits of tho case. and
criticised the selection OF n European umpire.
Europe was q family OF States he said. Its SOW
eregns were related by blood and assoc lated
In interests and sympathy. A Euro
pean monarch acting umpire under
this treaty would naturally be governed
by his surroundings. Senator Stewart did
not believe treaty could be framed tha, would
put US on an equal footing with Great Britain.
or that n tribunal could be formed that would
do tho Cu!ted States Justice II questions OF
political and territorial character were submit
ted TO II; Great Britain WAS continuing tho
preparations that would enable her to enforce
her demands. She had a long lin- OF fortihoa-
lions On our Atlantic ssAboard from New found
land to our lowest boundary. on the Pacific
coast she was likewise engaged. and was Annu-
ally making large approximations therefor.
While she was doing this lie thought We ought
not tn get into any entangling alliances where
Great Britain might have any excuse TO coerce
US II she had the power.
Mr. Stewart referred Article vi of the