Omaha daily bee., 1897-04-09

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somebody that did have influence with them.
Odd you mention TO him when you had
a talk with him here in the Lindell hotel
on the 10th day Of February A.-Was that
the date?
o. asked whether you mentioned to
him on the 10th day OF February Al
will not swear to the date, l will not say
that.
ODD Captain o'Malley take dinner with
you on the 10th day of February here at the
Lindell hotel? Ale took dinner here at
the hotel.
Q.-You saw him on that day? Ayes,
sir; / don't know about the 10th of Feb
ruary; l will not say positively about the
date.
Q.-It was before you had gone to Omaha
to hunt for him. Ayes, sir, it was before
that; he was down here before that time.
O.-You talked with him at that time?
Ayes, sir, l talked with him at that time.
Odd you mention to him at that time
that you would require associates in order
to fix up that matter? Al used no such
term as that
Q.-You referred to them a. the gang"
perhaps? A.-Oh, / would require the as
s~istance of other fellows.
Q.-You told him at that time, did you
not, who the gang was? A.-No, sir,
don't think l did.
Odd you mention to him at that time
any other man besides Mr.. Herdman who
might be willing to undertake this? Al
don't think l did; 1 have no remembrance
Of 1t. / think Herdman was the only one
l mentioned to him, because l believe Herd
man was the only one l had a talk with at
that time.
Q,-You must have talked to Herdman
after this, because you must have had the
proposition first? A.-Was that the time he
came down here and made the proposition to
me? He came before that time and made
the proposition to me; this Is the time he
came back from Denver after he had been
~,s A. ra,.,- AL,N 800. ,., .N~alrsr- 80 Nous
OIL may have missed ono time when he
was down here? A.-Well, he was down
here once before that.
Q.-On the first occasion that he brought
this matter to you, did you not refer to the
gang to him. and refer to the members
of it to him? Al might have said there
was a gang Of fellows hero who were help
ing these things along, or helping bills
along, and W. would have to get their as
sistance.
Q.-And you told him who those men were?
Al don't think l told him any more than
one probably.
Q.-Mentioned nobody else but Herdman?
| Al think not.
Q.-And you will swear that none of this
money of which you demanded 20 per cent
was paid to you? Al will swear that.
and have sworn to it, and / say 1t again,
neither directly nor indirectly.
Odd you make any inquiries or inves-
LEGATIONS in regard to the truth of the state
ment of Captain o'Malley that this money
had been deposited in the Omaha National
bank? Al did not.
Q.-You took his word for 1t? A.-Well,
1 was willing to take his word until l got
further along with 1t.
Q.--Have you any other written docu-
ments bearing on this case? A.-No, sir,
that is all l have. The one that went
| through and the one that never saw day
light.
Examined by Senator Talbot:
Q.-Mr. Rigg, do you know of any mem
Der of the senate that was spoken to about
their vote upon the passage of senate file
No. 331? A.-No, sir.
SPOKE TO NO ONE.
Odd you speak to any of them about
how they should vote on this bill? A
No. sir.
Q.-Do you know of any Of them having re-
ceived any money or promises OF money or
reward of any kind, for their vote on this
bill? A.-No, sir, l will say l know abso-
lutely nothing about No. 331. I don't know
how it came to be introduced or anything
else; 1 had nothing to do with it. 1 will
say this, l will go on and say this further
now, that at the time Captain O'Malley gave
me this he had another copy Identical with It
written On the same kind of paper and
Q.-Was that here in Lincoln or in
Omaha? A.-Here in Lincoln. .1,t,5
Q.-Who is. Captain O'Malley? A.-Captain
-. " Eioiicy VI oiiahd y Iuc lullu
ward. Isn't he a member of the city coun-
Gil?
OIL did not recall of ever having heard of
him except seeing his name in the papens.
You say he is a councilman in Omaha? A
So l understand. ar
Senator Ransom-Yes, he Is in the council
there.
Mr.. Rigg-The member from the bloody
Third.
Ollie didn't say from whom he got this
MN - A,r that ,rre nut an 10 49, L--l0
No. sir. He did say this. that he was going
to Denver to see If he couldn't raise some
money there; that much he said.
Q.-Was part of this $4,000 in Denver? A.
I don't know anything about it. He was
| going out to see if he could raise some money
there; I dent know where he raised it.
Q.-You don't know how this purse was
raised? A.-No. sir. l do not.
Q.-Do you know whether any of 1t was
ever paid to anybody or not, any of this
$4,000? Al do not; l know 1 never got a
cent Of it.
Ole never replied to your letter after
the passage of the bill? 'A.-No, sir.
Q.-You didn't offer very much hope of
doing anything with the republican contin-
gency in the senate? A.-No. sir.
Odd you talk to Senator Lee about
this? A.-No,N sir, never said a word to
Lee about it.
Q.-Senator Ritchie-You say you never
| spoke to any senator in regard to this bill?
A.-Not until after the bill was passed; then
l coded around up there just joking with
the fellows, you know. l believe joked
with Mr.. Murphy about voting for the thing
the day after 1t came out there.
Ex-senator Talbot-Did Mr.. O'Malley
know that the senate had recalled the bill
from the house? Al don't know. AS l
said, I received no reply to my letters, so
l don't know anything about it.
Examined by Senator Murphy:
OIL want to ask you IL this Is not the
idea you want to convey to the committee
that what conversation you had with O'Mal-
ley and what correspondence you had with
him was In reference to this bill, a copy of
which you have presented to the committee,
and which you did not succeed in getting IN
troduced? A.-This is the bill / wrote him
about, exhibit "B." l told him when he
was down here that / would prefer changing
that bill, exhibit a. and making it read
like this, exhibit 3D." Now, / will go on
a little further; | told him that | preferred
to change that bill to make it read like
this instead of that, and l advised him to
leave out that clause there about going to
the school funds, and he said: well, we
don't care. 80 they change it from a felony
to a misdemeanor." That is all they cared
about, changing 1t from a felony to a mis-
demeanor.
Q.-+But this Is what | wanted to ask you;
this is the bill he left with you, exhibit
"A?" Ayes. sir.
Q.-And about which you wrote him the
two letters that have been referred to by