New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1897-11-28
CANADA'S REFUSAL POSITIVE
SEALING NEGOTIATIONS APPARENTLY
IN A DEADLOCK.
THB DOMINION GOVERNMENT SAYS 1T Is POWER
LESS TO STOP PELAGrC sEALING-ALTERNA-
TIVE PROPOSITION FROM OTTAWA
ALREADY REJECTED BY THE


TIVE PROPOSITION FROM OTTAWA
ALREADY REJECTED BY THE
WASHINGTON AUTHORITIES.
Ottawa. Ont. Nov. 27-The reply Of the
Canadian Government to the proposition OF tre
United States that the Canadians should stop
killing seals for a year beginning January
Indicates that II is not possible to comply WIN
the proposal as every British subject mas
right to engage in pelagic sealing unless pro-
hlblted by imperial decree, which can only De
issued b. authority of the Imperial Parliament
and Parliament will not meet until February.
The Canadian reply suggests that the proposed
joint commission be appointed and meet at once
when. on conclusion of negotiations on the half-
dozen questions at issue. including the sealing
controversy. the necessary legislation could be
secured from the British Parliament and the
suspension Of pelagc scaling so into effect In
the spring
1t is authoriatively announced here that the
United States first proposed to pay the Cana
dian Government a lump sum Of money to ex-
tnGush pelagic scaling, a proposition which
Sir Wilfrd Laurier refused
Although Sir Wilfrid Iaurier said to-day that
no information is to he given out in regard to
the Canadian Governments reply to Mr.. Foster
in respect to the questions at issue between
both Governments. there is no doubt that the
substance OF the document which left here for
Washington to-day was clearly outlined in the
Associated Press dispatch OF Thursday last.
Some of the Government newspapers publish
similar statements to-day.
a GOVERNMENT PAPERS COMMENT.
one of these tonight. discussing the refusal
aUIO
such time as all the questions are discussed to-
gether, says:
The Imperial Parliament will not meet until
February, so that up to the month Of March 1t Is
not possible TO comply with the proposals or the
United States. even II It were considered advlsa;
the ratification of those questions which were
to be settled by Joint Commission after tAe order
had been given to suspend pelagic sealing cannot
take place until after March. there is no reason
why the proposed Joint Commission should not pe
appointed at once and meet. say within month";
and conclude the consideration Of the half-dozen
questions to be submitted. such as free exchange
OF certain commercial products the exemption or
Canada from the operation Of the alien labor law
the joint action as to the protection OF me lahe
fisheries and the revision or the regulations re-
speCting seals.
II the Joint Commission cannot agree upon these
questions, that IL end to the matter for the
ts M ,ainsen a',, an hoih sides come to an agree
rncnt and - treaty s declared and approved ny tne
m 'S So"a,r % MS n tbe senate rejects the treaty,
and mere viii he no necessity for the discontinue.
ance Of The sr3iing inansfy, ,ot romnsson agrees
on the various questions to be taken up ana the
senate rathss ne treay nr nrn b bs RrtfIs6 Parla
ment without delay and the suspension OF peIaglc
sealing into effect In the spTnS' or petorT r1 ,ng
n.et enters Behrng Sea. which "a not uhtl
~ " ,rua that this would leave tho catch
TO be tak~n In the mean time, but as thls onIy
hnroteiie r. as a result OF the sittings Of the
r,f,. issiOn pplaglc
IN completcly the compensation TO whlch the seal-
cys vYotd 5S entitled would. Of course be paid by
- T;n,fcd states and be calculated on number OF
wears and the national ADVANTAGES "nich S,nt
Sccfue 20 canada as a whole on other counts wou.i
a. 49,, oo,iv,Ieni for tho concessions to the United
states f6r tho suppression Of pelasie sealing
SPEECH BY SIR LOUIS DAVIES.
Toronto Ont. Nov. 27-Sir Louis Davies, at
q meeting OF Liberals here last night refefrFd
70 bj. recent visit 70 Washington to at'ehu '"e
.ooI copforence The seal experts. ne saId' s''-
,,od tho question Of fact in such way 'nd'
.,roaf,er Il cannot be opened up we Kho"
III, whore We are" he said. We know that
,h, so,i berd has diminished in an EXTRAORDINARY
,oc,roe IN late years, but we know that pelasic
..ai,,,, his diminished more than the nero ana
b, q far greater percentage. We KNOW 100
a. declaration Of the experts OF both countries
that there IL no immediate danger OF 'ne en-
,,rction of the herd and that the Kihd ol
,o,ag,, sealing practised by Canadian hshermeh
doos not Irperil or threaten the existence Oh
,bo bard and we know further that as COM
morcial venture It does not pay either couht[s.
THAT is about the sum and substance VI nv
case - an. .-. ad ,,t
N the Americans that Canada had taken hel
stand in reference To her tarlli' nau ~ ~
and given effect to a preferential 'tdue a. ~
n,ent and that the representatives couiu no.
ortor into any agreement which snoulu ulIeCty
or Indirectly prejudice the principle OF prefer
ence They were told that the rlsht " 49,
seals. being a national rlght; vnuCaeG v i3y,o,rv
great Paris Tribunal as legitimate iiiuu''.
on rho mart OF British subjects, couIu not pF
disposed Of for mere money cohsueratioI sIa'
Canada did not sell national rights LOT niohey.
but that her representatives were Wiling 'dt II
hor,Id ha trnafed as one OF a number of those
iarre questions and put. as II were IN the
hodge podge in the settlement IT 'ne GH'eu
States could zee their way cear 10 AUNT "uI
inrnber 10 make coal reciprocaly free on both
sidns 70 make fish salt and fresh. free and
such articles as barley eggs, potatoes ana other
thIrgs of that kind. an arrangement might De
cone TO which would be mutually prontaole ana
n,is,actorv 10 both countries. Sir Wilfrd
1aI,ricr has not surrendered one ota OF Cana
dian rights or Canadian privileges
ATTITUDE OF THE UNITED STATES
vyoshineton, Nov. 27.--The State Department
declined to say anything to-day respecting the
orswer OF the Canadian Government on the
| soal question further than that no communi-
cation on the subject had been received
from either the British Embassy or from Ot-
tawa. The published report of the conference
which took place between Mr.. Foster and the
British and Canadian representatives on NO
vember 16 shows that the proposition nov re-
norted from ottawa as having been formulated
by the Canadian Government was made at that
time and definitely declined by Mr. Foster
II was then distinctly stated that the Govern
- Tn
make the seal question dependent on the com
nIev question Of reciprocity. revision OF tariff
or other matters, unless there should be sus-
neneion of the slaughter OF the seals while the
p,,tJa, ,iona and resulting legislation were pend
ine II is not likely that the President will
rasorsa the decision Of the Government on