The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1897-11-19

until last Friday morning I never heard
anything more about the matter. Ih'n =
received a note from Mr.. Woodhn' our
city editor. stating that there was some
trouble connected with the history mat.
ter. and he would like 10 see mo az 10
O'Clock. | received that note on going 10
the Office. Before Mr.. Woodfn cama
however. Mr. West arrived. and he told
me his version OF what had happened.
lie led me 20 believe that Mr. Duce had
probably Misunderstood him. and | muss
say that the effect Of his statement 10 mo
made me think that probably Mr.. Ducs
was wrong I'm the matter. Mr. Woodrn
came 10 me later and gave me all the
Information he coulC on the subicct-muck
OF II hearsay. rumor. and so on-the rsr
suit Of the investigation he had with fhcN
the night before. He had the two gentlss
men down there about : o'clock 10 see
me 7 must say that Mr.. Duce always
held 10 his statement that Mr. West die
get that check and did toll him that II
was 10 pay somebody. I asked Mr.. nuce
very emphatically. when the two were
face 10 face do you say that this man
CMr. WesO told you that2' And he re-
piled. Yes. | do" Mr.. west said. "You
are mistaken. Mr.. Duce7" They held 10
that for a long time. Then said 70
Mr.. Duce. How could Won write an am
MI West IS telling tho truth. hut know
ne did make that remark: what made him
do so ! do not know. but know that he
did make that remark" Mr.. West then
SAID That IS where We differ" Mr.
Taylor Ellyson was not called IN 10 con-
suit about this matter: he iust CHANGED
10 come into my office az The time. and 7
said 10 him. YOU are hero and You might
as well remain and hear what g. going on
a g. rssF.
pened 10 come I'm, and 7 asked him 10
stay. 7 cautioned Mr. Duce that his
statement should 60 ltain tho truth. and
nothing hut the truth. 7 said 90 him "rf
YOU believe Mr.. west has told Won fho
truth. then n Is all right. hut do not state
anything hut the truth I'm your aGldavft.'
! think that is all l know about the mat
ter
O. Did Mr. West admit That he had n
check Of the American Book Company
pass through his hands?
4. No. he said that he had received
personal check Of Mr. Womsck Tho
only thing about it that 7 could NOT
reconcile. was Mr. Vests statement that
he did say-when Mr. Duce arrived m
the office from reporting tho meeting OF
the Sons Of Veterans. and advised him
or their action on tho Mahood resolutions
that means a hundred dollars I'm my
pocket
Q Did Mr. wcst admit that he saie
that?
A. He told me- that. IIo said ho al,
not know what made him say 10.
could not account FOR 70 at all. he said
"G don't know what condition I was ir
when I said it That was The irrocon
ciahle statement
Q. Has Mr.. Womack been 10 see yor
since this matter has come mp
MIR WOMACKS VISITS
Q. Yes. sir; last Monday Tho oni'
times have seen him IN probably =
year. as wol as 7 remember was insf
after 7 had received "a COPY NJ Colone
Cusson's circular ON this subject T wa
very much interested in the matter. anf
felt very strongly about a. and when he
came into my Office 7 said ~ him. We'll
We are going 10 got ria ~ your old his
tories az last" ffo said. "Won as AZ
shown hy our card We want to DO what
rs right I'm this matter and get OUT or
last Monday week 7 was very busy and
Mr.. Womack came 10 my door and start
"a in 7 said. Mr.. Womack. 7 cannot
see Won. 7 am very busy: please excuse
mo-" Those arc tho only occasions have
seen him I'm probably year. Last Mon
day 7 received "a telephone message from
him asking me 10 give him an interview
' told him that 7 was very busy, and
could not say when 7 could soc him. He
stated that II was ON "a matter ~ much
interest 70 me. and those connected with
me- He 'phonod me again 10 know AZ
what hour I could see HIM. 7 told him
that n he would call ar 3 o'c'1c' I would
SEQ him but I wanted him understand
that II he desired 10 see me Dr any mat
ter II must not be I'm confidence. that Dc
must not tell me anything that he want
ed kept from anyone else Tie said he
did not want 70 say anything to me Of a.
confidential nature.
O. Did he mention the matter
4. His whole statement was just about
what Mr.. West has testified 10.
O. Then Mr.. Womack's statement 20
YOU and Mr.. Vests testimony agree2
A. Yes. they seemed 10 agree. BAD
Mr. Stamper present az the interview aa
was determined 10 have some one else
there 10 hear what was said.
O. That was when
a. Last Monday about o'clock.
Q. Did Mr. Womack tell YOU the date
Of the rote Mt West gave him.
A. We'll. | don't remember 10. lie said
Mr.. West was wrong about the date. lie
said the note had been given him not
filed out by Mr. West. that he thought
there might be difficulty in having 1t dis
counted i'm Richmond. but he knew De-
could have IL discounted through
friend in Norfolk: he stated that the note
should commence from the time he got
the money on h.
Q. When did he get the money on the
note2
A. don't know know bis statement
as 10 the date differed from Mr. Vests
nearly a month. l could not remember
exactly how much. lie said West did
not know what date be- had dated the
note that he was 10 date 10 as of the
time he got IL discounted.
BY Mr. Lamb: Did ne tell you with
whom he put that note I'M Norfolk?
A. No. he did not
q. Did he tell you what DIR. West had
loaned him so?
A. That is one point Of difference. lie
said that he told West he did not thInk
lt was as much as that that he thought
10 was only SO. but that he told West
he would not discuss the matter. ana
would make II twenty.
=. Did he say he had been OWNS 81
West the money for six months.
A. lie did not mention that.
Q. Mr. West said that h. had borrow
ed $50 from Mr.. Theodore Ellysou f0r
the purpose Of loaning IL 10 Mr. Womack
A. Yes.
Q. Is that in keeping with your Once
rules?
\. Mr. Ellyson is treasurer. and ss
rule, he would advance money sometimes
70 employees according 90 bis judgment
They very seldom come 10 me, he s mo
treasurer.
q. SUI pose you have regular pay
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