The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1897-11-01
ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
YALE's REAL STRENGTH NOT TEST
ED At II POINT.

II REAL STRENGTH NOT TEST
ED AT WEST POINT.
General Yeeiinr That the Biue and CriEssn
q Teams Are Everiy Matched whon Their
msst Mes Arc In Line-OId Penn and Prince
ton Conceded 20 Ne the Strongest EieVens.
In deploring tho fact that Yale did not defeat
the wost Point Cadets on Saturday, followers
OF the New Haven men must not hastily arrive
at tho conclusion that tho Blue eleven is "la-
mentally week. Against the cadets, Yale pit
tea n team that was weak in many respects, and
inferior In playing strength to the regular eleven
which has been representing Old ELI this
year. Tho fact must not DO lost sight OF
chat with CRdwalader, left guard, and Cutten,
centre, out OF Saturdays game. Marshall
and Post, comparative novices, who filled their
places, wero not capable Of playing up to tho
standard already set by those two exceptionally
strong regulars. 1t must also DO considered
that Chamberlain played ut right tackle, q po-
uition entirely now to him. and which was most
Ncapably filled by Allen in tho gam against the
t, Indians. with Hubbell, also n new man, play
ing ut left end during the bulk of the game, 1t
Il not hard to realize that the rush limo was
rather easy for the aggressive cadets TO tear up.
With SO many inexperienced mon in the line, 1t
q 10 natural that Rodgers, Brown andHazen. regu-
lars, could not play their game. and were thore-
= foro almost in their own way.
Back of the line, too. Yalo did not have her
Ronl strength. Neither Ely nor De Saulles, the
/. most competent quarter backs in the university.
played. That place was filed by Sullivan, who
had not played In an important game be-
s fore. Benjamin and Kirfer, the splendid half
backs who were 20 effective against the Indians
and In other games, were also out OF 1t. Two
new mon, Marvin and Dudley, played half-back
d the start. Marvin gave way to Corw in, the
u, freshman, who saved Yale from defeat by q
lucky run, and Dudley left the game for Shat
tuck, who had not been particularly conspicuous
before.
Impartial observers who are studying both
in the game at Cambridge a week from next
Saturday are not inclined to favor either team
ia minor games 50 far has been superior 70
XAle's, and they also agree upon the point that
years back. But they also take into consilera.
ton the superior coaching methods at New
HH su and w shs usual sSsv b physical ibe I er1msopa on On
short, there seems to be a general impression
that the game viii be close, with each team ro'
The signal victories of both Pennsylvania and
Princeton over all opponents and the big scores
they are rolling up are taken as conclusive evi.
dence that these teams are the strongest in the
ton, Which is the better eleven / That Is an
extremely difficult point to decide at this rather
Brown. was pretty nearly balanced by Dart.
mouths bad defeat at Princeton in shorter
R RaSe. Tor t'B Brown ina" and in Dar tn nth a are not sc
lneveniy matched IN strength and ability. AS
year, there is only one way. o finally compare
their strength, and that is by personal inspec-
u uasa 1n .Hs @" method p' Of fi taxing kMH their heir scores score 7 IN
the Dig games into considesationi II Harvard
f asst ard beat a f9iS c s9s t sleseSy over ds asis
would not really entitlo the Tigers to claim
d ssf 5sG'P Harvs s5fn ans tss la dss W II na5S
tho .Quakers, Princeton's victory over
PP 1HSaifisi Pn sf the tho 6 Sassss; world As I feel T. that ihH f Prince.
ton and Pennsylvania should meet In a sports;
come together this year the game would un-
doubtedly be one Of the most exciting In the
"fd like to bet that If Pennsylvania and
side Would score. If they played at Philadelphia
the ouakers might win by . small score. and il
.hs y!!ctors BY some such score as 8 TO I or 10
atsract general atten.ion. 1T, To; m n PROV after.
and EiissSeth 4. &. line up for their annual
s si%s1s draw hns 's snos a shs S Sarious si Ss Colleges fRa shfe 10Y
talent tale : Fl. Thy yasl b played ID. two sootssI9ms'nss% frames % last ssst, s%1 sSs
s VII nave Of . ssRRF% we'll kno Sans Stars as Carl
captained by Phil Stillmau, the old Yale
S against iSan, aa' last Week V las been taken IS
an indication of a hot old time. Princeton will
next Saturday. Last year at Easton the Tigers
played a draw. o TO o. The Lafayette players
crushing defeat by Pennsylvania, and believe
that they will make the Tigers play hard foot
counter Of any Importance before the battle with
Yale. 1t is probable that the final makeup OF
CAMBRIDGE. Oct. 31.-Manager Fuller Of the
Harvard eleven has arranged a game with
the football enthusiasts here expect an interest
Vsrd in a number d years, and 4 renewal Of the
Sld.time relations is gladly, welcomed. To-day
sss sSS Sss q The ~ result aa's OF ,ss % SsSn Fo Int Y ssH:
game. 1t seemed almost Incredible that the
the standing Of the two teams at the end OF the
first half became known on Soldiers. Field
score for the benefit of tho spectators, but Out
y " w. .'s sSsado s0 sh' F RhsnH me 1a1s @s CT E RS5sfHan arv snil
eleven were less surprised at the score thar
r MsTo thu, fnS sRsir o%n sa Thsy w FHhli Vest sG P 4aSlt sST
weeks ago was the most 8 we're contest they en-
s sfE'a an "a ' sull Ss"n0a are at sin r snat % s0p pi"y, p sne
Norton Shaw has not yet recovered his old.tim'
The result of the Cornell game excites littl,
Comment, except for the fact that Cornell
scored. This would probably not have occurred
Y II Dibblee had not fumbled the ball on the If
t%en.yard line directly in front of the goal posts
Harvard's weakness in punling was perceptible
and contrasted sharply, with the great work o
now on will devore their energies to the back
and endeayor to develop the punting, the start
ing. and interle ence, all Of which Harvard
= sorely lacks. The tendency, of Harvard to ge
= of side will be remedieh, II is hoped, before an
= the Howard eleven and a handicap to ehicien
team work.
The list of coachers Is now practically com
- br, has just arrived and will stay with the team
mil the Yale game. Ex-Capt. Cumnock. can
not come, as was expected, on account OF bus
mess interests at Lowell. Ex.Ctpt. Brewer /
in the Orient, and his brother Charley canno
leave his business.
PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 3l.-The University O
Pennsylvania football team reached home thi
xnnrnino afta, a "a anni.ht t,in frn,, D.o,