The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1896-10-16
SATIRE AT PAR FOR A NIGHT.
BOTH DEBATERs ARE UysPAPrNc
in THEIR ALLUsIONs TO EN-
VIOUs RIVALS.
rEoNs AND WHITES COMPARED.
Question Of Wages Is Discussed o.
some Length by the Orators
Present.

OF z,IOO people between Col. T,ouis
Ayme and j. M. Hawthorne upon the
richness and poverty Of Mexico was a
unique political feature.
| IL would have been a better success
mad the opponents Of Mr.. Ayrne's arg11-
ments displayed more politeness and
less of the bullying tactics they have
used all through the campaign.
Ine sentiment of the house was
about equally divided. There seemed to
pe just as many on one side as on the
| other. One side made as much noise
as the other, but it must be said that
those who indorsed the arguments ad-
Vanced by Mr.. Ayme displayed a little
OF the usual courtesy accorded debat
1 ers and allowed both sides fair plav
The debate lasted for three hours.
during which both speakers crammed
into their arguments many hard nuts
| to crack
| Mr.. Hawthorne thought because he
| had visited Mexico in 1895 that he knew
more about the country than Mr..
| Ayme, who was there in 1885,
On the other hand, Mr.. Avne
thumped the table as he insisted that
ne rather thought a man who was in
| the land OF the poems for eight years
was better posted on the condition of
| the Mexican republic than a man who
| mad been paid to hunt up one side of
| story in forty-nine days
Mr.. Hawthorne said Mr.. Ayme was
an antediluvian and Rip Van Win
| kle
Mr.. Ayme said his "corpulent and
benevolent adversary" went to Mex
lco with the intention of looking out
Tor NO l, and for advertising purposes.
The Introductory remarks were Of the
you are" and II amt order afterr
which the speakers exposed the milk
IN the cocoanut and offered the hearers
a drink
Mr.. Hawthorne went to bat first. He
mad no substitutes on the bench. but
seemed to have a lot of rooters in the
pleachers. He opened by making a
play Tor the favor of the umpires and
said the only way to gain the truth
OF any question was to hear both sides
or 1t. His first strike was a direct
statement that, while he was in favor
or b1metallism that even If the country
went TO silver basis and gold to a
| premium, that even that would be Of
peneft to the country. Mr. Ayne was
behind the plate and caught the ball
on Inc end OF his bat, and the score
went down on his card. Then Mr..
hawthorne settled down to the game.
lie thought the fact that his oppo-
nent left Mexico eight years ago de-
barred him from discussing an up-to-
/ GATE question, and illustrated his state
menr by saying that if a consul should
nave returned to Austria in 1886. he
would be unable to give proper state
ment of the condition of affairs in Min
nesota in 1896.
spent seven weeks In Mexico and
went into the farm house, over the
plantations, into the executive depart
ments or the government, in it's rail-
way offices and through its factories.
interviewed the president and some
tfty-five high authorities who have
been in Mexico from five to twenty
years each.
= will start with the statement that
the values Of real estate In all gold
standard countries have deprecated
during the past five years. Men who
were in affiuence a few years ago in
this country will go to a pauper's
grave because of the depreciation in
values"
Mr.. Hawthorne stopped long enough
to tell in what catalogue he was listed
and that his batting average as a Re-
publican had never been questioned
and that he could not stand along with
the rest of the gang which threw the
game at the st. Louis convention.
L will make the assertion that real
estate has risen in value in Mexico
during the last three or four years
from rs to 200 per cent There. has
been a steady increase and no boom
Agricultural and suburban sales have
increased so to 200 per cent One LOT
that the New York Life company pur-
chased in Mexico in 81 for $40, 900 was
refused sale at $250,000
Three years ago ENGLAND at fhe
request of the Rothschilds, closed the
India mints and gold went up. Three
years ago Grover Cleveland and the
bankers ring forced q panic upon the
country In order to make an object
lesson and force the repeal of the
Sherman law. 1t left hundreds of
financial wrecks and 1000 suicides; but
how did 1t affect Mexico?
The direct result was that all the
factories in Mexico in 1893 opened up.
and have been running night and day
ever since. Train loads Of Americans
are going there. Millions are being
invested. Mexico has never been as
prosperous as she Is now, and nv
friend cannot deny this. Mexico has
not had business failure in four
years."
LC oPCdhCI SdlicQ dlISnIlOn 10 the
trading of Mexico under silver basis
together with that of China and ia
pan. Between 1890 and 1894 the ex-
port trade, of Mexico increased As per
cent; that Of China 60 per cent. and
that Of Japan 102 per cent. The ex-
port Of England decreased 16 per cent:
Of Germany 10 per cent, and of France
10 per cent, the last three being gold
standard countries. Between '92 and
'96 the export trade Of the United
States decreased % per cent The ex-
port trade Of Mexico exceeded it's i'm
port trade $50 100000.
The speaker told all about how he
interviewed Henry Derring, British
ambassador to Mexico. The latter told
how gold had ruined England.
Coming to the question of wages, Mr.
Hawthorne said 1t was a self-evident
truth that when wages were compared
it should be a comparison between the
wages of the white men Of one country
and the white men of another. The
speaker then made comparisons be-
tween the pay rolls Of the United States
and Mexican railroads, which subject
he investigated in the offices Of Consul
General Crittenden. He took the pay
rolls of two great Mexican railroads
He admitted that nearly all Of the
skilled labor of Mexico was American
and that the Mexican men are not ca
pable of skilled labor. Some of the
wa ges he quoted were as follows: Rail
way division superintendent. $3.50 per
month; train dispatchers, $3.50 to $500;