The San Francisco call., 1896-02-13
than Rome if the supreme pontin took up his

than Rome if the supreme pontif took up his
residence elsewhere.
The people of Italy and the people of Rome
| know this. The vast majority are in favor OF
| the restoration OF the temporal power. Were
Italian political institutions like ours-truly
popular-one election would settle the Roman
question forever. That settlement must come.
The claim of the Pope Will yet be granted. The
stars in their courses fight for the successor of
I re fisherman. Again and again the cry of
triumph has gone up that the Papacy is no
| more, but again and again has gone up that
| cry OF despair which was wrung from the
| apostate's lips on the desert sands, 80 Cali
| lean, thou hast conque redPi
q RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
/ DR.. Wendte wishes to throw on me the blame
/ for dragging into this discussion the question
| OF religious persecution. beg now to state
| that this subject was introduced by DR.. Wendte
| In his letter on church and state, which was
published on January H. For the first time
in the controversy we were treated to the sight
| of the ''gutters of Smithteld running with
| blood" was compelled in answer to notice
| the subject, but DR.. Wendte need not try now
| to put on me the onus of its introduction.
As the most of DR.. Wendte's tangential per-
formanees occurred at or about this point
subdivide the matter under seven titles:
| (d) Aquenas on heretics.
(b) Bellarmine on heretics.
! lcl Urban III on the excommunicate.
| (d) The Jesuits on regicide.
| (e) Catholic and Protestant persecution CON-
| pared.
% Maryland
| In the beginning, let me say that have not
| the faintest idea of denying that Catholic
nations prosecuted for conscience sake, but
| what do deny is that such persecution is or
| has been tenet of the Catholic religion.
| held that in matters of liberality we had
nothing to fear from comparison with any
| denomination.
| (a) THOMAS AQUINAs.
| To prove that the Catholic church was intol-
| Grant DR.. Wendte asserted: "Aquinas said
that all heretics ought to be put to DEATH"
Ot course Aquinas never said any such thing.
Then DR.: Wendte produces quotation in
which Aquinas says that the church might de-
| liver him over to the secular authorities to be
| 1 showed that St. Thomas teaching was that
| the church's. punishment for heresy was ex-
| communication.
l Showed that not until the thirteenth CEN
| tury was there q civil law making heresy a
| capital crime, and that this law was made by
| an Emperor notoriously hostile to the Popes.
Ishowed that st. Thomas was considering
| the question whether heretics might be left to
the civil magistrate to suffer the death penalty,
which is very different thing from saying
that heretics ought to be put to death or that
| the church should deliver them over to civil
power,
l showed, finally, that this teaching of
Aquinas was not a dogma of the church, but
that 1t was his opinion TO how certain
state of the civil laws should be met. No word
can be produced from Aquinas urging that
such civil laws should be made or should be
enforced. He merely took things as he found
them. He had no responsibility for making
| their cruelty.
DR.. wendte replied how much nicer it would
be to say that this intolerance of Aquinas was
once the universal doctrine of the church, but
we have outgrown it,
1t might be much nicer to say it, but it would
not be true.
There is no doctrine of the church. and never
was, which teaches that heretics should be put
TO death.
That Aquinas was intolerant I do not be-
heye. The fact that he explains the civil law
on the punishment of heretics makes him no
more intolerant than the fact that modern
tlon makes him bloodthirsty.
(b) BELLARMINE ON HERErIcs.
The history of the Harvard notes has already
been set forth at length DR.. Wendte, how
ever, produced another quotation showing
tnat Bellarmlne was ferocious heretic-hunter,
BY means OF the deadly parallel l demon
strated that DR.. Wendte had gerrymandered
Bellarmine and that Bellarmine's doctrine was
precisely that OF Aquinas', namely that the
with death.
DIR. Wendte replied that I had not mt the
right passages in the parallel column and that
L should not sneer at his Latinity.
l assert again that did produce the exact
passage and | assert, too, that DR.. Wendte
never saw volume of Bellarmine and that
believe he could not read it if he did There is
no occasion to sneer at his Latin. He does not
know enough to write prescription for siek
cow. A schoolboy who could write 'tsemper
idem" OF the church would deserve to be
scourged within an inch of his life for scan
(c) URBAN II AND THE ExcoMsUNIcATE
DR.. Wendte asserted that the Jesults in justi-
Tying the killing OF hereto kings appealed to
q decree OF Urban II allowing the slaughter of
those that have been excommunicated
challenged Dr.. Wendte to produce the pas
sage IN which the Jesuits made this appeal.
Dr. Wendte replied: ''I am glad to say that
am not an adept in casuist Catholic litera-
ture. 1t is a most useless knowledge"
1t would have been particularly useful to DR..
Wendte Just then in order to prove that he did
not say the thing that was not.
showed that Dr. Wendte knew nothi np
about this passage of DR.. Wendte; that it re-
ferred to the disturbers of the public peace,
ana, that instead OF being Papal bull, it was
only a Unitarian CALI
DR.. Wendte yells: ''My scholarship is evi-
IDENTIFY causing Father Yorke much ire
pidation."
(d) THE JEsUITs ON REGIcIDE
DR.. Wendte declared that the Jesuits taught
that heretical kings might be killed at sight.
l showed that DR.. Wendte falsified Suarez.
coniounded extracts from two different books
into one alleged quotation, and that the teach
ing OF the Jesuits, surrounded as it was by con-
teaching set forth in the Declaration of Inde-
pendence.
DR.. Wendte answered that wandered off into
dlscurslve explanations which explain moth
ing.
(e) CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT PROSECUTIONS
COMPARED.
stated that in the matter of liberation the
Catholic church might challenge comparison
with any denomination.
DR.. Wendte replies that Protestant persecu
uons were never SO sanguinary as Catholic
prosecutions, and in proof he quotes the In
QUESTION, the Albigenses, st. Bartholomew
etc. -
Let us see what his proofs are worth.
1. The Inaulsition-Dr. Wendte says that
Llorente is authority for the fact that by that