The morning times., 1896-06-16
EXPERTS WHOD0 NOT AGREE
Chemist Hodges Gets at the
Holt Will.
NO ARCHIL WAS USED
He COntradicts Carvalho's Stat ements
Regarding the Ink and the Age Of
ical Tests Gave Different Results.
MnJ- Throckmorton Again on Stand.

There was more expert testimony given
In the contest over the alleged will OF the
late Judge Holt in Judge Bradley's court
yesterday. when the fifth week OF the long
trial was begun. This was the fourth
acknowledged expert who has testified in
the case up to date.
Harrison b. Hodges, at present In charge
or the chemical and physical tests in the
Southern Railroad. was the expert wit
ness. He was four'srears a professor in
chemistry at harvard and had studied that
science at the universities OF Bonn, Leip-
sic and Heidelberg. He was chemist for
one of the big iak companies for eight
years.
Major ButterwOrth Immediately began
questioning the expert about the chemical
properties or archii, the chemical element
the ink on the paper. That expert had
said that 1T was q simple element derived
from sea weed, while Prof. Hodges said
that it was compieScompound clement
obtained from lichens.
lis it a recent tiscovery?"
'lt is not. but was known to the Greeks
and Romans as a coloring matter.'
"ls IL used in inks nOw?''
'In none that Iihave examined is it used
as an adulterous NATTER
as there any Instance 10 your mind OF
the use of archil in inks?''
'If you were to find an Ink with that as a
component, what would it suggest to your
mind as to the age OF the ink?''
1T would suggest that it was an old ink
compounds were used in making iuk.''
PRESENCE OF ARcHIL.
The. witness said that in his opinion It
was impossible to detect the presence of
archil in ink by applying muriate OF tin
to it. Archil is red, and if used at all in
inks would be used to dye them that hue
Prof. Hodges produced q number OF small
vials containing chemicals.
This one has muriate or chloride OF tin
in it, he said. as he held a small glass
cylinder before the Jury. 1t contained a
colorless liquid, while the fluid that had
been used by Carvalho as niuriate OF tin
was of a reddish hue.
'.Ifthat is chloride Of tin it is adulterated
with something else said the expert. re
ferring to the vial from which Carvalho
had made his experiment, and that was
left with the clerk of the court for future
experiments.
The will with the word that Carvalho had
doctored was handed to the witness. His
attention was called to the SPOT where the
prior expert had dropped the supposed
muriate OF tin, and where the letters had
turned to q reddish color.
s.Muriate OF tin bleaches archil, while this
ink has been turned to a reddish hue
that the experiment has not shown the
presence of archil In the writing
Another experiment was performed on the
Will. The worn at WIS Sefecteu anu tne
expert dropped a chemical upon it. He
watched the result and said that the ink
contained iron. II archil were used at all
he said it would he used In logwood inks
These were the only red inks there were
and archil was q red dye alone, as stated
before. The witness stated that he did not
believe muriate Of tin was of the slightest
value in detecting the presence OF dis
tinCuishing in gretlients in ink.
Prof Hodges would not speak with definite
ness as to the age OF the paper. He believed
that If the paper had been written within
the last score of years there would be Ills
tinguished in it analine blue, valuable In
gretlient of ink used by man ufacturers gen.
orally. He had been unable to discover any
in the analyses he had made