The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-11-18


tie way. We started together. and when
we go tabout twenty feet from Fifth
street / met Samuel Thalhimer. 1 went
up TO him and said:
"Thalhimer. you have ruined my
daughter and disgracod her"
lie replied: what Ida2 I'll pay for
It,"
state to the jury what happened
then" said Mr. Smith.
Il iust slapped a knife IN him." an
swered WINNER How many times /
knitted him / don't know. 1 knitted MIN
until / was satisfied / had my revenge,
turned him loose. walked acSOss the pave
ment to the curbstOne and asked for a
pcliccman 4 little white boy ran up 10
me and asked what 1 wanted with po-
Hceman. had the man hurt me. l told
him no. L had hurl him.
WINNER then described how he had
been on his way 20 the station-house
when he met Policeman Mattern. gave up
his knife 10 him, and allowed himself
10 be locked up. The knife with which
the wounds were inflicted was Identified
az this point by WINNER as one carried
by him for more Thin year.
MIR. WINNER, had you made up your
mind what you were going 20 say 10
Thalhimcr when you met him?' asked
Mr. Smith.
Yes. SIR. IL ne had said I'll marry her
instead of IN pay for it, L would not
have cut him. but held on 10 him until
he had married her.
The witness was then turned over TO
the Commonwealth Tor cr0ss-eXamination.
Did you ever have brother-in-law
named Giipin?' asked Air. Richardson.
IL had a half brother"
Did you ever shoot or cut him?'
"No. sir"
Did you ever know man named Tom
Brgg?"
tom Bugg? Yes. be was cut by Glpln,
| I helped TO make the arrest I'm the case.
! bcing as ] have stated. special police
man when not running my engine. j most
emphatically deny ever having cut Tom
| Bugg.'
Mr.. Richardson piled the witness with
a number OF questions for the purpose OF
testing his memory. His answers We're
pretty much m accord with those given
| in the examination ln chief, though ne
proved somewhat shaky on dates.
After great number OF questions re-
laung 10 WINNER working I'm Danville,
how many times he came 10 Richmond.
how much money he sent his family etc,
Mr.. Richardson closely questioned the
witness regarding his visit 90 the store
OF Thalhlmer in May.
WHERE is SAM2'
"Alr WINNER hc asked did you not
90 into this store and say 90 Mr.. Charles
Thalhimer Where is SAM and did he
not ask Why; do you know him? and
you replied Yes; Doc is "a friend Of miney
The witness positively denied that any
such occurrence had taken place. lie
said he had asked only whether Mr. Thai
hmer had a son who drove his fathers
az
nrmative reply That visit 10 the store,
said the witness, was his first and last
one, and he was only there ten or fifteen
/ minutes He only drank a small bottle
of beer and no whisky.
..Alr WINNER, dd Sar, 1'hafhimer give
you any money that night for any pur-
| posee" asked MT Richardson.
NO sir. he did not replied WINNER.
"Was any Young lady from West Nir-
einia staying d. your house from May
ISL 20 1ith?'
eyes. sir; MY wife's niece"
Did YOU ask sam Thalhimer 20 come
| to see her?'
NO. sir. / did not. II is lie.
never said word no Sam Thalhimer
about a young lady being at my house
from West Virginia
did YOU have the knife with which
YOU killed Thalhimer in your hand the
niaht you went 20 DIS storc?
"No. SIR
Did you ask Sam. Thalhimer any.
thing at am about loan?'
"No. SIR
Being questioned as 10 his actions on
! the day of The lth of September. which
was Lab0r-pay afr. WINNER said he left
! home between and l1 o'clock. and went
90 the shop Of Jacobs H Minor whore