The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1896-03-11


eign representatives accredited here.
Mr.. Chandler also thought the Spanish
Hs mad been eng guilty e5 an mpropre
fensve. Il desire TO say" interposed Mr.
Morgan, that the Spanish minister mis-
ate.''
That illustrates the point ] desired to
make" continued Mr.. Chandler, proceed
ing 10 quote Senor De Lome's reference 10
our war of the rebellion. IT was unseemly,
he said, for the Spanish minister TO have
written such communication, and IL could
not be countenanced. Continuing, Mr..
Chandler expressed the opinion that there
was entirely too much attempt at outside
interference T or ADVICE; He & referred to the
the President OF the Council OF Spanish Min
listers.
Mr. Hale then took the floor He was not
prepared, he said. to yield one jot from the
position he took yesterday, and expressed
satisfaction that he had been able to OBJ
tain from an official source such a temper
ate reply to the infammatory utterances
against Spain, which were without any Off
clal foundation whatever He commended
the careful tone of the Spanish minister,
who, ne said, had observed all the courte-
sizes of the human language. With regard
TO the general question. as 10 the propriety
their views, he declared that the press OF
to-day had invaded realms not dreamed of
thirty years ago. Great men did not hesi-
on literary questions, but on vital questions
of international comfy. He cited Gladstone's
expression on the Venezuelan question.
Il SUPPOSITITIOUS CASE.
At this point Mr.. Gray came forward
with a supposititious case. Suppose" said
he, that some member OF the British House
of Commons should read in the House from
supposititious authority a statement TO tie
effect that before Andre was executed he
had been tortured by General Washington;
that his eyes had been burned from their
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sorts of indignities. Would it be unbecom-
ing in the American ambassador to call at
tention to the fact that the alleged history
was unauthenticated and that a mistake
had been made?"
Mr.. Hale readily agreed that there could
be no impropriety in such course. If such
a thing should happen, he said. he had no
doubt that Mr.. Bayard would send a letter
to the London Times setting forth the truth
of history.
MIR. Teller challenged the analogy OF the
supposittious case. That would simply be a
discussion of historical events. In this in
stance Senor De Lome's statement was IL
tended to offset action on MEASURES pending
in the Senate. Again taking up the thread
of his argument, Mr.. Hale referred to the
message sent by the Prince Of Wales TO the
American people through the New York
World. Royalty, he thought, had not abated
its dignity by that act. 1t was simply
recognition Of the now universally ac-
knowledged fact that all public men went
to the newspapers, magazines and reviews
| to write themselves down In matters OF
public moment Until the Spanish minis
stepped the bounds Of propriety, he did not
think he should be subject to censure or
| Mr. Lodge, who had opened the discussion,
again got the floor, and agreed that this
sort of debate over the utterance OF a rep
resentative of a foreign government was
unseemly, but ne protested that the matter
| had not been brought into the Senate by
him. But when a foreign minister's words,
charging that he had been imposed on,
| '.maiiciously and fraudulently," were read
| here he thought he should reply He had
shown that the Spanish minister's state
| with the eloquent defense OF the Spanish
minister, but even a United States Senator
was entitled to some rights. Naughter2
| minister, appealing from what had been
said in the Senate to the common sense
/ of the American people" While we s.,,,ls are
\ sit might be we'll for Senator'S TO recall the
4 case OF Genet, the French minister to the
American people and whom George Wash
/ ington turned out of the country. Would
Washington be called a jingo and taken to
| task for his action? In MS day and gener,
| alton he was considered man OF good
Wr. Gray interjected that Genet had gone
so far as to enlist troops; .,..u -,
/ the main offense. The Senator recalled the
| case of Lord Sackville-West, who was asked
to retire for giving advice as to how to vote
"That was a private letter. not meant for
publication" suggested Mr.: Teller.
| Mr. Hale added that in the Sackvflle-We
| case the letter bore on national election
about to occur.
Mr.. Lodge insisted that the. case was an
| alagous to the present one.
! ANOTHER EXCITING INCIDENT.
This closed the exciting initial incident In
1 ,x,6 ha
ceeded with the usual morning business
The debate had had the effect Of filling
every available seat in the Senate galleries
| The diplomatic corps was again well repre-
| sented. several of the ministers and secre
taries being accompanied by ladies of tn,
diplomatic corps The floor of the Senat,
was also crowded. members of the Hous'
filing the rear and side areas.
Another exciting incident occurred wher
Mr.. Hoar's resolution, introduced yesterday
| providing that the Cuban question 80 Owe
until April 6, next, was laid before the Sen
ate. Mr.. Hoar asked that 1t go over unit
| tomorrow, as he was in poor health and die
not feel able to speak on the resolution 10
day.
Mr.. Sherman was quickly on his feet, hi
face showing much feeling and his voic
strong in earnestness. II shall object 4
that resolution at all stages. said he:
regard II as & fenecuon ftar on ,me NOR than
month of discussion. after Overwhelming
votes in both branches OF Congress, thi
resolution Is brought here sending the sub
iect back to the committee on foreign rela
tions. viii most decidedly object
There was a snap to the words or Mr
Sherman which left no doubt OF their ear
nestness. The two venerable Senators, MI
Sherman and Mr.. Hoar, stood side by side
their desks adjoining and the colloquy pro
ceeded at short range
Mr.. Hoar expressed great surprise that IN
Ohio Senator should object TO granting
usual courtesy to Senator.
Mr.. Sherman responded that the motive
for this resolution were self-evident. Ii post
poned and delayed action. 1t turned tn
| question into moot debate.
''The Senator from Ohio is man of pene
tration, of great scientific attainments." an
swered Mr. Hoar, but / doubt whether h
has SO mastered the science Of the y ray
| as to penetrate my brain and ascertain m
| motives in Offering this resolution MI
Hoar said his only purpose in urging thi
resolution was to call attention to some ne,
practices growing up in dealing with gray
| foreign questions Instead of having effectiv
action by the legislative and executiv
branches, the legislative branch proceede
. | alone in q concurrent resolution TO expires
an ineffective opinion. 1t was all moo
| question. Congress is not bound, the Presi
| dent is not bound. the people are not bound
Mr. Hoar said he objected to doing bushes
, with one-half Of pair OF scissors If W
| | wanted TO cut any knots let us get bot
, halves of the scissors; let Congress act wit
the President and let the President act Wit
Congress.
HOAR HOLDS HIS GROUND.
Mr.. Sherman again interrupted. but NJ
Hoar waived him aside with emphasis, I