Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1896-11-18

and we chatted for awhile. soon the
young man came in ana sir. Thalhlmer
went of 10 get shave. The young man
and / talked for awhile"
did you take a drink while there. Mr..
Winner" qucried Mr. Smith.
Yes. sir; l took a scent bottle OF beer.
l bought it (. ON the young man"
Did you pay for itY'
Yes" replied the prisoner. "The boy
first showed the money back 70 me. saying
II was his treat. | told him no. that ]
wanted 10 pay for the beer. lie then
offered TO treat again, but | refused to
accept II, and left the store.
WHEN HE WAS TOLD.
The witness was asked when he was
first appriscd or knew anything OF his
daughters condition and he said il was
about $50 O'Clock on the afternoon Of
September 7th last. The story of how
ne was informed Of this by his wife and
daughters, and then seizing his hat and
going out to look for Thalhimer, has been
printed over and over again. WINNER
said he was SC excited and mad that he
even walked past Thalhimer's store with
out knowing il He met little negro
boy anl asked him where Mr. Thalhimer
lived. and If he would not walk with him
and show him Mr.. Thalhimers residence.
1--WE had not walked very far" said
WINNER. when the boy said Here comes
Mr.. Thaihimers son now / saw him
and recognized him He observed me
and sort of hung his head. looking guilty.
As he started to pass by me l caught
hold Of his shoulder and said 10 him:
You have ruined my daughter and dis
graced her. He replied: What, Ida:
III pay for it, No sooner had he said
this than l commenced to slap the knife
into him"
How many times did you cut him?"
inquired Mr.. Smith.
Il don't know"
Had you drawn your knife when THAI
himor said What Ida: I'll pay for ito"
mo. 1 turned Thalhmer aloose. drew
the knife. and catching mold of him again
l struck him until ! thought l had gotten
my revenge. 1 then turned him aloose and
he ran off. i walked 10 the edge Of the
curbing and asked for a policeman. Az
terward i met officer Mattern and went
to ne SiXth-Street Station-House with
him"
ABOUT GILPIN AND BUGG.
On his cross-eXamination. the prisoner
said that he lived for many years in
Hinton, W. Va. where he worked for a
long while, and often acted as special
policeman. He was asked II he ever shot
a N
man named Tom Bugg. In Hinton. and
replied I'm the negative. He declared that
Gilpin stabbed Bugg and that he was
only acting as special police officer. for
which he received no pay. From Hinton
WINNER went to Kentucky. and removes
thence 10 Blueheld ". Va. where he
was engaged as boss blacksmith Of the
Norfolk and Western railroad shops.
Mr.. Richardson: Were you ever on the
police force of Blueheld?
NO. sir. Not on the regular force. ]
was often called into service as special
officer upon occasions Of riots and pic
MICS" Oaughter)
"A riot and a picnic are about the
same thing out there. amt they, Mr.
WINNER asked Mr Smith, humorousiy
'Yes sir: the picnics are often the
cause of the riots" the defendant re-
piled.
Continuing his line Of cross -examina-
tion. Mr. Richardson brought Winner up
10 the point when he came TO Rich
moud to reside. and asked him why he
left the employ Of the Richmond Loco
motive-W Works. To this WINNER replied
that it was because he had had a diff
Guilty with the boss blacksmith who
was Jealous of him (WimmeD. The wit
ness added that he was discharged for
knocking down this man. who called him
a liar. but that ne CWimmeD was Of
fered his place again three hours later
but refused TO return 20 work.
WINNER said that he remained idle for
eleven days and then went TO Danvne
10 work. but came home on a visit
Christmas, in February. and in May II
was uDon this latter occasion that he
went into Thalhimers store.
Mr.. WINNER. did Mr.. Thalhimer give
you any money that evening" asked
Mr. Richardson.
"No. sir: he never gave me cent; he
never loaned me cent. He never owed
me any money" replied the winess.
did you have a young lady from
West Virginia visiting at your house at
this time?"
"Yes. sir; my wife's niece was there"
"Did you ask Sam Thalhimer to come
down 10 see this nieceY
"No. sir: he lied"
The Court: Mr.. WINNER. you must
not use that language in court
Excuse me" apOlOgiZed the prisoner
The witness denied having had his knife
open while he was at Thaihimers store
on this occasion.
MISS ADA WINNER TESTIFIES.
A number OF unimportant questions
were asked the prisoner. and he stood
aside His daughter Miss Ada WINNER
a strikingly pretty young lady some -
wears Of age. and very much Ike her
sister. Ida May. was called by the de
fence. She testified that her sister had
been an invalid from infancy. and had
ALWAYS been treated differently from her
self in that she had not had TO work,
while she Miss Ada) had been forced TO
help 10 earn living for the family. she
was closely questioned as 20 the younS
men who had from time TO time visited
their house Miss Ada said that Ihal-
himer had introduced himself to her az
her home in the presence Of her mother
She said that upon one occasion sammy
Tha'himer came to her house with three
other young men. whom she describe
Mr.. Richardson: Did you snow those
Young men a photograph OF iyhchihs
in West Virginia? .-.,.u..
NO sir" answered the pretty witness
"Hayep't YOU a photograph OF such
lynching at your home!
.'Yes. sir" thoughufuly.
"'rben didn't you show it to those
Young men that evening"
Il may have done so.'
"Djdn't you tell them that your iather
belned TO lynch the negroes photograph
ear
NO sir: / did not"
some other testimony. unimportant III
its nature. was ELECTED from MISS I'M M
mer. and court took a recess unti 4'oo
o'clock.
rxidence Taken In Rcbuttni.
rbe afternoon session commenced
,ronontly at 4S0 o'clock. and as soon as
Mr. smith entered the chamber ne an
,,ornced that the defence would rest us
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