Kansas City daily journal. [volume] (Kansas City, Mo.) 1892-1897, 1896-05-29
GENERAL INDIAN BILL UP.
REPORTED TO THE SENATE DY rHE
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.
Another Effort to Have the Dawes
Com u,ission Clause Ruled Out of
order I'niIs-Discussion tn
lc Resumed To-day.

Washington. May 2s.-(Spoclal) when
the conference report on the general In
dian bill was called up in the senate to-
day, the friends OF the lobby at once
commenced to take on dreadfully." sena-
tor Chandler. who for many years has
| come In at the last moment with buckets
OF sympathy for poor Lo.' but who SO
far this session has not showed n hand In
the matter. concluded that the report was
out OF order and accordingly made the
| point Of order. He labored under a load
| upon his conscience about having new Leg
| islation Injected via the conference re-
port Senator Hale also had trouble TO
lind 1t agreeable to himself to allow lesls-
lation on a conference report.
The objections thus raised were in COM
mon with the usual run Of objections %
reports made by conferees and did not re-
tion.
senator walthali was terrible distressed
all about the subject in hand and felt post.
tive that a very grave injustice would ho
done the peopie OF the indian territory
that country should pass. He INDUCED In
a great deal OF physical and mental agony
Ter, one OF the senate conferees, observei:
The trouble here is. | think / may say.
that II this had been legislation which was
agreeable to certain senators there would
have been no objection made. This legis-
iation, which admit, ought not TO, pass
. ~. my 4hf iAlOh u AliAA anu NV
There probably never has. been in the his
tory of this senate and the house of rep
resentatlves such, an active lobby against
this class, of LEGISLATION as there is here
today, There never has been. since | have
tude. II there Is any Justification Mt any
time for a violation of the senatorial rule
ought to be excused at this time by
those at least who are familiar with the
necessities of legislation and the deplor-
OF american rlftgpnl are in To-day for want
of such legislation.
81 am going TO contend that this is in or
der. and If the senate thinks 1t is not in
order; and that there is not a necessity for
TINS LEGISLATION which would Justify the
r,,Is n. IN wa, departing ming from It's customary
report, Then the. committee Will know
what they have to do. We attempted in the
early days of the session, but that is some
time since, to put upon this bill a provis-
ion which the chair held to be out of order.
The senate did not vote on it, but it was
rules. This Is n very different proposition.
however. from the one which was declared
to be out of order. for that was n PROPOSE
ton which contained all of this provision
and very much more. 1t contained a pro-
vision TO rthe allotment and distribution Of
lands OF the Indians. and in that respect
at least 1t was a repeal of existing law.
This provides simply that n commission
which We have appointed, and to which we
t iona s powef esrt anG nay !: ali mdg Se RaI ls afdi-
1t is simply an extension of the authority
already given to them, recognized in the
statute now. l will admit that 1t is an ex-
tension. and that it is u detailed statement
of what they should do or what they
might do without that detailed statement.
Returning to the merits of the question.
he observed: Il want to go to the ques-
ton n moment. whether there Is any ne.
cessity for legislation at all here. and
whether, after all, there is any such out
rage as the senator from Mississippi and
the senator from New Hampshire seem TO
think fhapa has hpap imam tho GlnDfa n
Is not expected that n matter of this kind
would escape the attention of the senate.
We knew very well that when this report
oughly discussed. We knew that. with the
great lobby which was hanging around
this senate. with nearly all of the attor-
neys of the community employed. there
would be some objection made TO the re-
port. and therefore We kept it as near as
We could within the rule that we thought
had been sometimes recognized as accepta-
BILE and unobjectionable.
MIR. President, ! do not intend to waste
much time upon this except to say that we
have In the Indian Territory n question
which has got to be settled in the interest
of good government, which has got TO 10
settled In the interest of the great mass
of the Indians, and the mass of white
people who have been allowed by the In
dams to invade that territory and to make
that territory their home"
When the senator referred to the efforts
of the lobby. he would look and point TO
the gallery, where about twenty members
OF the employed lobby were sitting. They
did not look comfortable over the outlook.
By the time Mr., Teller had completed his
remarks. the lobby had received Informal
tion that the vice president did not want
to assume the responsibility of again sus-
tanning the point of order. He ruled in
that fashion once before under circum-
stances familiar to many, and for so doing
he appeared in an unpleasant light In many
papers over the country. This disposition
on the part of the chair made trouble for
the lobby: so, after manipulation, 1t was
concluded best to Withdraw the point os
order and take chances on a poor Lo'
sympathy debate.
Accordingly, in due time. Mr.. Chandler
withdrew his point of order, and 1t was
agreed to fight 1t out in the senate.
Consideration of the question was laid
aside for the bond bill. and will be resumed
tomorrow. The lobby Is troubled with n
great fight. and especially Is this true OF
those working on a contingent fee. They
insist that they viii have more on hand at
roll call than the conferrees, but 1t Is very
plain that, even II they do, the conferrees
Will bring in the same report again and
again, II that is necessary to pass the re-
port. In this way the conferrees and COM
mittee propose TO fight the lobby.