Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1896-09-15
WINNER Is BAILED.
JUDGE WITT RELEASES HIM IN
THE SUM OF $4,000.
PATHETIC SCENES IN COURTROOM.
statement of the Prisoner and That
of His Daughtcr-Messrs. Maurice
j. Griffin and W. j. Nash BECOME
Bondsmen-Not n Hanging offence.

taNuS Inalnlmer, slept at hiS iVH'N' ~'~'
s27 north Seventeenth street, last
night. He was allowed bail in the sum
of $500 by Judge Witt. of the Hastings
Court. yesterday afternoon, and the bond
reo,ired was soon produced. 1t was
generally thought that the accused would
tie given bail, but the impression as 10
the amount which would be demanded
varied considerably. Some persons were
of the opinion that 5000 was excessive,
while others thought 1t was too little.
However. Judge Witt. who gave the
most careful and impartial attention TO
the testimony adduced before him, exer-
cised that Judgment which is vested alone
in him.
The prisoner was taken into the
Hustings-Court room upon writ OF
habeas corpus about 1 o'clock yesterday
afternoon and at that hour about 700
people had crowded into that chamber
for the purpose OF listening to the EVIL
dence i'm this now celebrated case. VIM
mer. looking Just a little pale, occupied
seat beside his counsel, Messrs. H.
NJ. Smith, Jr. and Minitree Folkes. Mrs
WINNER sat next TO her husband. Tne
prosecution was represented by only
Commonwealth's-Att Richardson.
only two persons were put upon the
witness stand. They were the prisoner
and his daughter. Ida May WINNER.
The accused was first called, and he
displayed the same GOODNESS and deter
mination which has characterized MS
conduct since the fearful tragedy of
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was asked by ex-Commonwealth's s-Attor-
ney Smith to tell all he knew about the
affair. and began by saying that he had
only seen young Thalhimer two or three
times. and was never personally ac-
quainted with him. He said his daugh-
ter Ida had been an invalid since her
birth Last winter the accused spent In
Danville, returning here in the spring. As
early as the latter part OF May or the
first of June, his daughter. he said, be-
gan to complain, but as she was a help
less child and could only do little light
housework he paid no attention TO IL.
Later on. when the girls trouble became
more pronounced, WINNER said he told
his wife that she had better call I'm
doctor to see what was the mater win
Ida. A physician was summoned out ne
could not think OF the name OF the medl-
cal man. Later on Or. Brooker was
was called in. and he gave the girl some
medicine. up TO this time | had never
dreamed that anything serious was
wrong with my daughter" the accused
went on. "and did not know anything
about IL until about o'clock last Mon
day evening. when | came home. 1t
was Iabor-Day and l was not at work,
though | had been down to the shop.
did not go home to any dinner that day.
/ found my other daughter, Ada, in the
kitchen crying when | did go, and when
/ asked her what was the matter she
said that Ida was upstairs sick.
asked her where was mamma and she
replied upstairs with Ida l ran right
upstairs before finishing my supper, and
as soon as | started up l met my wife,
who told me Of my daughters ruin. She
said that Sammy Thalhmer had ruined
Ida. | said Is 1t possible that he has
done this and Ida then said, Yes; papa,
could not help il. He made me-.
The prisoner here went somewhat into
the details of the alleged assault, as
he was told of II that evening, and mar
rated how he went out to look for young
Thalhimer He said that DR.. Brooker
had given his daughter some medicine.
with the instructions that when the last
dose OF IL was taken her mother was to
bring her TO his office for an examna-
ton. The last dose was taken on the
Monday morning of the tragedy. and
Mrs. WINNER had complied with the in
structions of the physician, who pro-
claimed the facts as to the girls condi-
tion to Mrs. WINNER. {
DETERMINED To HAVE REVENGE.
WINNER said that when he had been
apprised OF the facts he went down
stairs. got his coat and hat, and deter
mined that he would have his revenge.
He then went uptown i'm search of Sam
uel Thalhimer. He walked past Thai
himer's fathers store, on Broad street,
but found it closed. Meeting a small
boy near by he asked him where Mr..
Thalhlmer lived. The lad said that he
would show WINNER. They had not
gone far together, when the boy said:
There he is, now" WINNER said that
when he saw the young. man he caught
him by the shoulder and said. You
have ruined my daughter" WINNER de-
clared that the young mans reply was:
"Who do you mean-Ida? Well, IL d
have, I'll pay for IT," with that" con-
tinued the prisoner, II slapped the knife
into him. and kept on stabbing him. l
do not know how many times / cut him.
When he staggered off l was satisfied
that / had avenged my daughters in
juries" The witness said that he then
turned to look for a policeman, and de-
scribed his meeting with officer Mattern,
on Sixth street.
On his cross-examination by Mr.. Rich
ardson the accused did not vary much
from his direct testimony. He denied
having whetted his knife on a brick or
rock before going out TO look for Thai
himer, and also denied that he went into
n pawnbroker's place on lower Main
street to purchase a revolver on the day
of the killing. He said that he had a
pistol at home at that time.
TESTIMONY OF THE GIRL.
When the prisoner had concluded his
testimony Ida May WINNER, the girl
alleged TO have been dishonored by
young Thalhimer was called, and one
of the most pathetic scenes ever wit
messed in a courtroom was enacted. The
frail little creature was led TO the wit l
ness-stand by Officers Weisiger and John
ston, and when she first began her
story she almost broke down. Her
statement was somewhat incohereat, and
very pathetic. She was examined by
Mr. Smith. and gave her age and name.
She corroborated a part OF her fathers
testimony. She said she met Thalnimer
last November. and that he had been
TO see her several times She said that
one day. while she was standing at her
gate. she saw the young man pass and
raise his hat. She did not speak, be-
cause she did not know him. A few
days after the same young man came
along and stopped and asked her how
long she had been living there. She re-
piled "Not long" He> then left and I'm
a few days came back. and this time
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