New-York tribune., 1896-11-01
TOWARD GOULD AT HOME.
- -xprR1ENcEs WITH THE NIAGARA
IN ENGLISH WATERS.
ur WILL NOT RACE THERE
.c.x WHILE THE PRESENT COUNCIL OF
-,,r YACHT RACING ASSOCIATION IS
~ rowER-BRINGs BACK Dun
,.vES's CHALLENGE Gu


,,.,.r6 Gould. who has been so long aoroao sur
- ,he Niagara in English waters aliu WIN 'o'nes
shs -" .or, his burning controversy win the
fresh 49,. r-nslsh Yacht Racing Association
couh0" 80 vee.srday morning on the American
feacheu s,sh,n " st. Louis. He was seen at his
A..io r,- IN the forenoon, ana talked III an en-
o'".V 'D,re vav of his experiences. ne was look
.e yer h-onzed and fresh as poS' "">''s '""'cu
- his rustache whhe """s' ,,- a,.,.-.
or "' 20 a question referring 70 his diHerence
.,,h the council oil the i"e
,,o, Mr. Gould said;
soc'",.0. 80, urplsasant business. and would pre-
ro,hnc more about 1t. l stated my case
sei " .,r,e Il, my letter 10 them ana am quite pre-
=" 90 ,aaye the matter ehliieiS W '"e 'uue eo,'
pair.,ol sportsmen in both couhtries. Regard
oi ini"' ,,,o,em that still continued racing AFTER
ing the Gifted '',a,,oa INV Yacht | would say that
they hau ~, ,ho matter had been referred 10 and
wai'eu 49, tho Ya-nt Racing Association This
spp.o,d spp0,od would be done immediateN
expec'eu our uater tanks the same during the sea-
last YEAR as this year.? was asked
son =. -,r,v they explained TINS mat'er Il.
- n the council. me Niagara II s''aPou
my ie'' ,,,,o q canoe her hull being very shaliow.
very muci on, m No other place to put the tanks.
and tle'o aar tho transoms. 1t was necessary
excep'"e Soro there or else everybody on poard
70 pa ~ compelled TO so without water d" was
.,,be- one thing or 'he o'"V''
.,,, Not RACE IN ENGLISH Wal h'0 Al
WILL >'- PRESENT.
.oc, 10 race in English waters again.
DO YOU expec' ~
NJ 'oulu su. the present council Of the English
x.oh, Racing Association Is III po"e'
Are they elected TO ONCE ..u,, .,o, n,.r
49,. sav II seems to me- though, tha' "heh
Il cahi'0' ,s an the council he stays there until
he dies. ,. o,, formed for the future?"
~ "" ,houqht Of building boat 10 race IN the
.-,vfooter class 10 compets against OafesS anu
Now this Is out OF the question OF course
Isoios ~, exosct to build. ! left the Niagara
=, southampton. where she VIII ia! up ~. "s '"s
- and .yill probably race Ler IN france anc
Germany next summer. i"'"
no, made up my mind .,.u.
.rour prominent yachtsmen nave Pac''0"'
rosd 70 build sixty-footers limited IN san area
sud draught." suggested.
Mr. Gould said that II would certalniE DC 's''
6re class and continuing said Il am very much
q, favor of these restricted classes. and think that
one reason for the great success Of yacht racing
IN England is that great deal Of IL has been class
racing thoroughly believe in building boats OF
o,e size 10 compete against each other without
Time allowance and from one-gun start
DO vol think the Niagara has been outbu!t this
year by any OF the English designers
THE NIAGARA's RACING QUALITIES.
NIAGARA ls ! believe. the best twenty-raier in
England to-day The Saint won more races. but this
was principally due 10 the fact that the Niagara was
built 10 race under the ru.es that existed in lsso
Las. wn.er the Yacht Racing Association changed
the rules and d system OF time allowance was
sdopfed The Saint ana the Penitent were built TO
race under the new rules and somewhat favored
hv them These boats are about four feet more on
the water line than the Niagara and carry 100
square feet canvas Under the OLD rules
the Saint and the Penitent would have 10 allow the
Niagara nearly three minutes time thirtymie
course while under the new rules tie Niagara gets
only eighteen seconds over the same distance. me
races during the summer nave proved that
neither the Saint nor the Pentent could giye the
Niagara time allowance under the Old fuie. fnghsh
yach;snen in many instances dissatisfied with
the new rules and there is possibility OF haVhg
them changed ,-,.s
Why do you not stay here and turn the Nighant
into schooner" After momen; Mr. Gould an
swered this question by asking another:
The reporter said he thought sne would with few
tl,eraions and said he thought she should beat the
.ls Thereupon Mir Gould said: Il also believe that
ne Vlgilant would make grand schooner and com,
ssns sces against the 000n'A "0"'a TURNS" some s00
LITTLE PROSPECT or A CHALLENGER NOW.
DO YOU think from your knowledge OF English
yach;snen that there s any possibility OF challenge
To- the Americas Cup mex, year"
No"
Sir George Newnes is said 20 be looking ,or club
% challenge his behalf. Would ne IN Your OPINION
succeed in finding a club willing 10 his pur-
pcse?
No. az all | think that severa. Of the clubs
would be willing 10 challenge. The genera! feeling
however j. in view Of the unpls that
occurred after the last for cup and my ltile
differences with the Yacnt Racing Council. 1t would
nos be well jusi now 10 arrange an internationAl
,ace and ii would he more satisfactory 10 walt until
things nave quoted down soUewnat
Has Dunraren lost caste among English yachts
men"
Excuse me. would rather no; discuss that
matter"
Mr.. Gould brings back with him several trophies
hat were won by the Niagara. among them being
Lord DunraVen's challenge cup which presented
or competition 70 the CASTE Yacht Club and became
.he Winners property by winning TWO races. The
Niagara won the cup year ago and was defeated In
;u;ter Audrey. There was considerable criticism a
HE time because. DGnrayon allowed MS yacht iC
.ornpeie for his own gift and about two weeks aeC
.he Yacht Racing Association disqualified Audrey
Ind awarded the cup 10 The Niagara. The council
nld; OWING 10 ne irregular entry Of Audrey she Wa:
disqualified"
The trophy Is lovingcup OF quaint design standing
'"o ieet nlgn Oh his arrival the oflic" Yesterday
no.ning Mr.. Gould found ie;,er awaiting him from
I; j. Harvey. the secretary Of the ROYAL Cork Yach
ino informing him that he. with his brother George
loud. had been eected honorary member Of
ma, historic organization He had presented 70 then
cup lor twenty while ne was their CUES. ias
suinher but owing 10 the fact that there m
~ehy-rdiers there 70 compete against the Niagars
se reused TO walk over the course and no race na
!et peen sailed for the prize