New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1896-05-02

teri. and said that Mr.. Hill had labelled him
as the newspapers also did-as a Populist. He
had no fault to find with the word "Populist."
1t meant the greatest good for the greatest
number; II meant the rule Of the majority. 1t
mean. local self-government; 1t meant, In short
the principles Of Jefferson and Jackson. The
Senator from New-York had departed from that
faith. and prated for hard money.
No one. Mr.. Tilman continued, had the slight
est Idea that the Democrats would win in the
next election. On the one side Cleveland
and Carlisle and Sherman. and on the other
side were Jackson. Jefferson and Lincoln. THE
Senator from New-York." Mr.. Tillman con-
tinued. asked me what I was going to do
with South Carolina at Chicago. l Will say
this to him: / expect to go to Chicago q
delegate to the National Convention. expect
to do my level best Democrat to keep my
party back out Of the woods Of Republcanism
and to throw off all the slough and rotten
ness that 1t has accumulated during the last
three years. But If Doodle is to win at Chicago
then / am willing 10 take my hat and bid the
Senator from New-York and all like him. a
long farewell"
This sentence was delivered In such ludi-
crous manner as to provoke general laugh
throughout the chamber.
"As to where l will co. Mr.. Tlman con-
tinued. Il do not know l will not go to Popu-
lism But Populisn is simply an expression
Of wrath and anger on the part of disguised
Democrats and disguised Republicans The
Populists were In error at the last PresldentiaI
election. They spattered themselves on the
wall loud laughter) Those OF us Democrats
who have not been debauched. or who do not
allow gold to control us. will line up somewhere
but we will not be. after the election. under
the gold standard. II we do not get recogni'
ton of silver at the Chicago Convention, then
the Democratic party is dead and gone forever.
new party will spring into existence. III we
cannot beat you this time We Will serve notice
on you that we will have America ior amer
cans And to hell with Great Britain and the
Tories Naughter.) II we do not beat you IN
1885, We will interest you in 1900
MR.. HILL TAKES A HAND.
Mr.. Hill Dem.. n. W spoke of Mr.. Tillman's
speech as a remarkable performance which did
not call for any special reply from him. 1t would
have been wiser, perhaps, when that Senator
gave to the Senate and to the country the spec
tacle which he did the last time he spoke. never
TO allude to anything he said. Possibly ne tMr.
HID erred to-day in noticing some or MS sue,
gestions The Senator from South Carolina had
not wholly addressed his remarks to the Naval
Appropriation bill. but had spoken OF the
finances Of the bond issues and OF the bond IN
vestigation and had finally wound up by FORMING
a new party "all by himself and South caro-.
lima" Gaughter) With much that he had sad
he CMr. HID had no concern To MS crticisnls
of the Administration he did not propose 10 re-
ply He had as the Senate and country knew
little in common with the present Administra-
ton. He had not been the recipient OF its patron
notice except very briefly. some OF the gratui-
tous, uncalled-for and unidentified remarks OF his
friend from South Carolina. who loved h'ih
1S his "fr,end " he added wa not on the straight
road which led to Popnlism. he was-on inc
straight road to some worse place. lie did not
know exactly what his friend" meant when ne
spoke about the Populists SCATTERING the walls
but he had said that he was not gong 70 the
Popusts. He would hold his good friend from
South Carolina TO that promise. He CMr HID
was not going to prophesy In these trouDious
political times.
by day The present political campaign IL un-
precedented in both parties. There has been
cyclone sweeping through the country In Repub-
lican circles which all It's leading Statesmen nave
been unable TO check. A nomination Is likely 10
occur-sreagthened by the events OF the last rev
days-which six weeks ago no one could fore'e!l.
Changes are likely TO occur repeatedly. EVehts
are likely to occur In the Democratic party
which may change the political situation. !
say to v fend from South Carolina II he has
that love for jefferson and Jackson that he pro-
fesses, that hope ne will have no occasion 70
leave party which he has served 80 wen III
the past. do not propose at this time because
I hope to have the opportunity In the sweet
by-and-by) to discuss the bond resolution
Then can express my views fully on the great
question involved-the tremendous. monf<tous
uuestion-as to whether We shall have SEN
atorial investigation Of the bond issues OF tho
Government by the present Administration.
THE SOUTH GOT PART OF WHAT 1T WANTED.
Mr.. Hill went on to speak OF the regular
Democracy Of the State OF New-York, and said
that 1. could not be charged with responsibility
for the nomination Of Mr.. Cleveland In ls92
II recollect," said he. that State after State In
the South instructed their delegates for free
silver and Grover Cleveland. They have not got
free silver. but they have got Mr.. Cleveland.
General laughter) The regular Democracy or
New-York protested against II; but after the
nomination was made. loyal Democrats. as they
thax. hanlx and
New-York again TO the Democratic column.
And, sir, no matter what may be In store for us
in the next campaign; come victory or defeat;
come sunshine shadow, come veal or woe. /
will be found again In behalf Of whoever may be
the Democratic candidate-and in behalf Of
whatever may be the National Democratic plat
form" (Applause)
From this point and for two hours longer the
discussion continued In the same excited style.
Mr.. TillmanSvery frequently breaking In with
his caustc remarks, and Mr.. Hill retorting In
kind. At last the presiding officer (Mr Frye In
sisted the observance OF the rule that
Senator who desired to interrupt should first
address the Chair Mr.. Tman promised that
he would comply with the rule; but Mr.. Hill had
not gone another minute before Mr.. Tillman
again broke in, to the great amusement or
Senators and audience.
HE DREW THE LINE AT STEWART.
Soon afterward Mr.. Stewart Pop.. New de-
sired 10 ask a question; but Mr.. Hill told him
that he would have to draw the line upon him.
and said that he would discuss the bond ques-
ton with him when the bond resolution
came UP.
you never will discuss 1t with me-" said Mr..
Stewart You dare not"
Further on. Mr.. Tillman made remark as TO
Mr. Hill Joining the Republican party. III you
do not go TO the Popust party" Mr.. Hill re-
torted until / go to the Republicans. you Will
never get there. You could not kick either OF us
out OF the Democratic party
Another remark interposed by Mr.. Tillman
was: THE Senator from Ohio (Mr. Sherman)
wants TO keep the greenbacks in the Treasury.
Mr. Cleveland wants TO pay them or and burn
them Therefore, the Senator from Ohio is a
better Democrat than Cleveland and he Is a
better Democrat than you (Mr HID. believe
Uaughter)
THE Senator from South Carolina" Mr.. Hill