The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1896-03-25
THE SALT LAKE HERALD, WEDNESDAY,. rs.


and Will say God blessIthem and for
. the. ones who vote against the bill l
will have the utmost pity and say they
knew not what they did"
Mr.. Beard, a member of the commit
tee which considered the bill said he
had gone to the committee room firm
ly resolved not to support the BILL but
he had undergone a change OF sentl-
ment. He was now heartily in favor
of the bill.
Mr.. Clark thought it was a very Sc
rous question which had not been Sc
riously considereds by the people OF
the state. He did not think the mem
ber's constituents had contemplated
such a bill being offered and that 1t
was ill-advised at this time.
Mr.. Nebeker Of Salt Lake spoke at
some length in favor of the motion.
Dr. Condor said he would not feel
he would, 60 himself justice or properly
represent his constituents if he did not
record himself as opposed to the mo-
ton.
Mr.. Nye said he should vote against
the motion. but that he was opposed
to the bill He believed that when a
man committed murder premeditated-
ly he deserved to give up his lie. lie
did not believe it would occur tnal
man would he convicted ana hanged
for murder if he were innocent.
Dr. Condor interpolated.the question
how about Mrs. MaybrlcK Inc
whole world believed her innocent.
Mr.. Nye did not agree that the v-noie
world believed her innocent. lie men
cited a case in Michigan in whlcn one
Latimer who had been sentenced +or
life for brutally killing his motneT 10
get the insurance on her ME. ne lldu
tried to escape and had killed guard
who had attempted to prevent It, He
had received all the sentence tne law
permitted and could not be Dunsned
for this last crime. Mr.. Nye tnoughl
this same thing might occur anywhere
where the life sentence was IN vogue,
as the life convict had nothing TO look
forward to and would embrace any
opportunity and commit any crime TO
escape.
DR.. Condor asked if such another
case was on record and if the gentle
man did not think the original crime
of the man did not stamp him an I'M
usual man, a monstroSity!
MI Taylor said in such cases the
offender could be punished by solitary
confinement
Mr.. Nye could not answer as to
whether there was another similar case
on record and was surprised that MI.
TAYLOR, theosophist, could favor
MI Stevens. was opposed to the bill
and would like to be heard. but conSid-
cred further debate unnecessary and
moved the previous question, but gave
way to Mr.. Taylor to close for the af-
firmative side.
Mr.. Taylor answered the gentleman
who had stated that the question has
arisen without notice or previous aSlta-
ton by saying the people who had not
heard the subject previously agitated
were certainly no great readers and
were net conversant with current top
les since it was a subject which had
always been agitated.
Mr. TAYLOR answered all the argu-
ments against the bill and in closing
replied to Mr.. Nye's reference to him
as a theosophist. He was one, he said.
and from that fact alone could not be-
lieve in shedding mans blood, but he
could not discuss the theosophical rea-
sons. He did not favor solitary con-
finement except to punish such Offend
ers as Mr.. Nye had mentioned.
Mr.. Howard wanted to be heard but
Mr.. Stevens insisted on his motion for
the previous question. The speaker
ruled that Mr.. Howard, having made
the motion was entitled to be heard
Mr.. Howard spoke lat some length
mentioning among other things, Mr.
Taylor's former reference to the great
men who had pronounced against cap
ital punishment ,Shey, he held, had
been greatly in the minority, whereas
a great majority of the people favored
the death penalty.
DR.. Condor asked if it was not a
majority of the people who had killed
the Savior. Mr.. Howard was not sure
but thought that was another ques-
ton. Referring to statements that
had been made concerning either the
death penalty or life sentence deter
mining crime, he said we should have
to live a while longer before any pun
lshment would be found that would de-
ter murder effectually.
When he said that if a man commit
ted murder he should suffer death. Mr..
Taylor asked if he thought Harry
Hynds had been guilty of murder. Mr..
Howard replied that he was not there
to pass upon any ones case and that
he did not consider it proper to men
ton the. case on the floor.
Mr.. Howard thought that irs-view of
the fact that another legislature would
meet in few months, it was but meet
THAT the bill should go over TO give the
people a chance to study the question
as they would. now that it had been
agitated. Then if they wanted it they
would so signify to their representa-
tiveS.
THE MOTION LOST.
The motion was lost by a. tie vote as
follows:
Ayes-Andrus, Cazier, Clark. Fargu-
son of Carbon, Gibbs, Harris, Howard.
Larsen, Lennon, Monson, Vaughan.
Murdoch, Mansfield Nebeker of Salt
Lake, NebelNer of Eich, Stevens, Sned-
ieker, Sevy, Smoot Thorn, Thompson
of Sanpete, Thompson of Millard-22.
Nays-Beard, Bolitho, Bernhisel, Con-
don, Curtis, Critchlow,i Gushing, Egan,
Ferguson of Salt Lake, Gibson. Hell
ner, Lewis, Morrison, Morrill,, Nya.
Raddatz, Robinson, Shafer, Sorenson,
Taylor, Wilson, Mr.. Speakar-22. Alb
sent, Lowrey.
THE BILL FAILS.
Mr.. Morrison moved the previous
question on the passage of the bill, the
roll call being ordered after minor
amendments had been made by con-
sent. The bill was defeated, the vote
in detail being:
Ayes-Beard, Bolitho, Bernhisel, Con
don, Curtis, Crftchiow, Gushing, Cazier,
Egan, Gibson, Heiner, Lewis, Morri-
son, Morrill,, Raddatz, Shafer Sorensen,
Nays Andrus. Clark. Ferguson of
Salt Lake, Ferguson of Carbon, Gibbs.
Harris, Howard, Larsen. Lennon.
Monson, Maugfran. Murdoch, Mansfield.
Nebeker of Rich, Nye, Robinson Ste
vens, Snedeker, Sevy, Smoot, Thorn,
Thompson of Sanpete, Thompson of
Willard, Wilson, Mr.. Speaker-26 Alb
sent Lowrey.
TWO NEW BILLS.