The herald., 1896-05-02
They Do Not Know of Forged or
Fictitious Names
FREE HARBOR LEAGUE BUSY
And Is q Result More Damaging Aft.
davits Are Found
Men Who Signed From Fifteen to Thirty
Names Each
hoeus-pocus and Jugsiery at the Washington
End-A Oarbied TeIegraphlc Message
and Q Puzzled Senatcr-The
End Not Yet

Eu0 TVOt Ict
To the sworn statement Of George
Anderson and the sworn statements of
others published in yesterdays Herald
and Times John F. Carrere on the staff
Of the Express makes answer through
the editorial columns of that paper as
follows:
George Anderson printed in the Herald
and Times this morning in which he
seeks to convey the impression that sig
natures to a number of petitions ask
ing congress to appropriate money for
both Ean Pedro and Santa Monica har-
bors are bogus and fictitious have to
say that I did employ Anderson and
several other persons to circulate such
petitions. and that so far as I know
and believe all the signatures are gen
utne. In many cases they are Of my
personal knowledge. while in others
was assured by Anderson that they were
exactly what they are represented to be.
Personally 1 do not know Of a single
forged or fictitious name on any of the
Lists.
II desire to say further that the state
ment that any large sum Of money was
spent in employing men to collect sigma
lures 10 untrue. Ordinary day wages were
paid to those who put their entire time
IN the matter and no more and person.
ally there has been no profit in the mat
tor to me.
II have not the slightest objection to
anyone knowing all did in the matter
The circulation Of petitions Is perfectly
legitimate and was done by those in fav-
or Of San Pedro or nothing, who also
paid for the work done.
Il believe that the appropriations for
Santa Manica and San Pedro both would
be q ,splendid thing for Los Angeles and
I am at loss to understand why any
one should oppose either appropriation,
or any other that congress may see fit to
make for this section.
80 far as Mr.. Osborne is concerned
he had nothing whatever to do with the
matter by suggestion or otherwise. I
am perfect willing to accept all the re-
sponsibi1ity, because there was abso-
lutely nothing dishonorable in it in any
way. have always taken great inter-
est In labor matters and believe that
such large appropriations as are pro-
posed would be the best possible thing
for the laborers and wage-earners of
Los Angeles. and I have encouraged
them, and shall continue to encourage
them by every honorable means with
out any hope of reward. because I be-
lieve that they are the best thing for
the community. My motives in the mat
ter are both disinterested and honor
able.
"Andersons charges that I said get
signatures any way, that sent him to
arrange meetings between Mr. Crawley
ana Mr. Ltndley are unqualifiedly false.
Neither of those gentlemen ever saw the
boy, or would know him If they met
him. l confess / have bought a new
coat and that do not do so often. but
the price paid for it will preclude any
idea that got any sum from the rail-
road or any other outside source The
entire transaction has been entirely
straight and honest so far as I know
and believe. and il there has been any
fraud or deception 1t has been on the
part of Anderson and his associates Of
which / know nothing, and who deceived
me as much as any one.
1.-THE statement of Frederick J. Hetz
Jr., that I went to his barber shop with
Frank Oakley is untrue. and he certain
ly knows 1t is, because I went there but
once and then with Fred Blech, foreman
of the Express job office, who introduced
him to me. My object in going was to
ascertain from him-as a member of the
BARRIERS union. If the union had au-
thorized its president and secretary to
sign telegram to Senator White and
Congressman McLachlan in favor of the
San Pedro or nothing proposition.
"Mr. Hetz declared that no such ac-
tion was taken; that no one had au-
thority to sign kilograms of that char
acter for the union, nd he volunteered
to sign a telegram to Washington de-
claring that as member of the Bar
bers' union he favored both harbors He
said the majority of the BARRIERS had
the same views, and offered the follow
ing day. If paid for his time, to get the
signatures of nearly every member of
the union to telegram making that
statement. He said there were so many
shops that he could not get around un-
less he had some conveyance. and
offered to send buggy for his use.
From that day to this have never,
that know Of. seen Hetz. Inever went
anywhere with Mr.. Oakley in my life,
and I have very slight acquaintance
with him."
In the same issue and on the same
page. Mr.. Fl. 2. Osborne, the president
OF the Evening Express company, pub
fishes card, copy of which is here
given:
I'm his desperation at being showed
under in local politics during the past
Few days. the editor of the Times is
evinclng more than ordinary degree
of malice. This morning he printed
mass Of aftidavits alleging fictitious sig
natures to certain petitions sent from
this city to Senator White in favor of
double appropriations for harbor pur-
poses at Santa Monica and San Pedro.
and attempting to connect the editor Of
the Express with the alleged fraud. I
have been citizen of California eight
cen years, and to the thousands of peo-
pie with whom / have a personal ac-
quaintance in the state believe that 1t
Is hardly necessary for me to say
that the charge made by the Times is
absolutely and unQualifiedly false. To
those with whom have no personal ac-
quaintance, desire to say that while
have been engaged in a great many ex-
citing newspaper and political contests,