The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1896-05-25

then 1t win be tine enough to show that we
are not vindictive" Thls royal we as
ger uses It in all simplicity. identifying HIM
self unconsciously with his people)
exposed to the risks of further discussion:
but II so gratified me that could not neip
saying:
v.tation and 60 TO England President; you
would have wonderful reception. and 1
feei sure that all points at issue would soon
be settled when you were both race 70 race.
WHAT HE WANTS.
The little gray eyes probed me. Evidently
he was growing suspicious. THE English
government" he said al length. does not
act very generously to me. 1t publishes mes
sages to me before they have reached me.
and treats us as If we had been the party
who broke the convention and behaved out
rageously. Yet what we ask is reasonable
and just.
First Of all we ask for an indemnity.
We shall have to support the families Of the
four Beers murdered by the raiders. and the
wounded will have to receive some compen-
satton. We are told that we should no.
claim an indemnity because England did not
years ago into siellaland and zuluiand.
Qulboles OF a pettifogging lawyer. Inc
Zulus came across our borders. stole the
ished them, treating their leaders as indie
pendent chiefs. and now the English gov
eminent compares our defensive action with
Jameson's raid upon a civilized and friendly
community. Is that fair treatment?
Secondly, we want to incorporate Swat
land wh the st Ssx We have half
tons, and our burghers will say. Perhaps
Dom Paul was right. At any rate we got
ee
seems determined to ask everything and give
nothing. ..
changed into treaty Of amity and com
merce: we want to be able as an independent
people to give "a 'most-favored-natio ton
Great Britain in foreign affairs; we are
quite willing to incorporate Clause 4 Of the
convention in protocol e the treaty ,s, We
Is that unreasonable?
And: lastly. we wanted Tor formal gua ran,
our independence would be respected by
England. said that If these four things
could be freely and fully discussed would
accept Mr.. Chamberlain's invitation and go
to England. We are told that these mat
tiers cannot be discussed unless we on our
grievances of the Outlanders in the Trans
vaal. That is monstrous. First of all. there
Is no admitted grievances of the Outland-
srs In the Transvaa he ola mans n volSe
to you directly" q nodded acQuiescence):
land If there were, what right has England
to interfere after promising so.emnly In the
1854 convention that che would not interfere
in the internal affairs OF the Transvaal! Mr.
Chamberlain has interfered from the begin
ming in our internal affairs. just as II We
had been the raiders and not the raided;
we hear Of nothing but 'Outlanders griev-
ances.' All lies; there are no grievances:
Prove pro- sft it to o you az without pause the old
man went on quite calmly in his ordinary
voice, though he had been shouting the mo-
g little suspicious Of the sincerity or his ex-
element. Gradually, however. / came 10
believe that the emotions were sincere
enough. but that the Judgment held them IN
perfect control. The waves, with their noise
and turmoil affect only the surface or the
deep) First of all, these Outlanders can
become citizens after two years residence
by taking the oath Of allegiance.
''Ah, but they cannot vote Tor the Presl-
dent or for the members OF the highest
''and the resolutions of the lower volksraad
| can be ignored by the upper Rad With
| such restrictions there is no citizenship.
QUOTES THE UNITED STATES.
at am told" the President answered quiet
| ly, THAI no foreigner can become Presi'
| dent of the United States. and yet England
| does not send messages to the American gov
eminent protesting against this as an ad'
| united grievance Let me go on. These
half citizens if you like the word-can be-
|. come full citizens easily enough. As soon as
they are mmandered and serve the state
| in any war. have always offered them full
rights as burghers Some Germans have thus
| become full burghers, but very few English
men. Do you know why? Because they do
not want to be burghers of the Transvaali
| they only come here TO make money. anu
| they want to get home again as soon as pos
| sJole. There are no admitted grievances;
| there are pretended grievances and moth
| ing more"
Il don't agree with you. President. Every
Hnglishmen will admit that citizen snou l
| defend the state. but that a man should f1gh
| for a foreign state in order TO win the righ
| of citizenship is TO make him mercenary
the privilege should presede the duty: WI y,
not know the conditions OF this country. L
We admitted every one TO citizenship w
| should be overwhelmed
| / did not draw attention to this very palpa
bic contradiction Of what the President flaG
landers) did not wish to be burghers of tbs
| Transvaal." In the election Of 1928 Kru
| ger, representing the Conservative part,
| bert, the Progressive candidate. by just Owe
thousand votes. Evidently what was II
Dom Paurs mind was that. If he accordet
/ the privileges of citizenship TO the Outland
ers he would not stand any Chance Of beinl
reelected as President. His calculation wa
u.iquestionaoly exact; and, as had no WIS.,
to force the selfishness into prominence,
/ let the matter stand as 1t was. 1t is proha
ole that 5000 Afrikanders in Johannesour:
would become citizens OF the Transvaal TO
morrow IL they could. The number of Brit
| ish-born inhabitants OF johannesburg VIII
| would avail themselves OF the privileg
would believe. be few. Wishing however
for the sake OF peace and good feeling, 10 2u
the Outlanders case strongly possible
urged the adyisaDility of following the ex
| ample of the United States. where IL wa
| found that not only Englishmen, but Ital
lars, Swedes. Germans Frenchmen span
| iSrds-in fact, all Europeans, as soon as the
| were admitted to citizenship, fulfilled IN
duties OF II. / tried to push home the poin
by somewhat inapt but honey smile.
| "A good COCK, l said, mikes water II
proportion to the meal, or the porridg
would be spoiled"
The President laughed outright he vol
| leyed the bah:
Il am the cook, and know that II woul,
take very little water &c spoil our Doe
The laugh having lightened the stress o
argument, / went back 10 the President
previous remarks, for / wanted him to go (
England, knowing that such visit woul
strengthen those of his supporters who ha
English sympathies and tend TO weaken tn
influence exerted by his Hollander advisers
INTERvIEWER'S ARGUMENT
Three out of your four demands" I be
gan, Twill certainly be granted II you go {
England. There will be difficulty in ar
ranging the indemnity or handing you owe
Swaziland, or In substituting a treaty o
| commerce and amity with Clause In tn
protocol for the convention OF 1884. but eve
Mr.. Chamberlain could not guarantee the FL