The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1896-02-12


remaining was whether in the Nenezue-
Ian difficulty there had been any invasion
of the rights of the United States, as upon
that point no pronouneement had been
made by the United States government.
1t was, in his judgment, a doubtful ques-
tion whether the United States could just
ly Cooperate in the settlement on the
Venezuelan difference IN default Of that
government having in It's possession all OF
the information bearing thereon which
was at Englands 3 disposal He, there
fore, regretted the deiayl In the publica-
tion OF the case of Great Britain and de-
manded that prompt ana honorable con-
ciusion of the affair be reached.
In the House of Lords the address in
reply TO the queens speech was moved by
Lord Stanmore and seconded by the Earl
of Rosslyn.
Lord Rosebery said ne was glad to see
that the negotiations for the settlement
OF the difficulties in the Trausvaal were
progressing. He expressed his approval Of
the conduct of Mr.. Chamberlain, secre-
tary OF state for the colonies, who had eX-
hibited statesmenlike courage and promp-
utude or discussion. he greatly deplored
the recent utterances of Lord Salisbury
which on the part of the Beers had tended
TO feeling of disrrust OF England's good
faith and would lead 20 a belief that the
sympathy of the government was with the
invaders of the territory of the South At
rican republic. He demanded to know
what form the governments inquiry would
take in regard to the relations of the char
tered British South African Company to
the transactions which had recently TAX
en- place in the Transvaal and also desired
TO know why the government had been
ignorant of what had been going on at
Mafeking prior to DR.. Jameson's raid. 1t
was, obvious, he said. 1hat that charter
of the British South Africa Company must
be revised.
Turning his attention 10 the situation in
Armenia Lord Rosebery said that Lord
Salisburys recent statements In regard to
the obligation of England under the terms
of the treaty of Berlin, were absolutely
incorrect The whole point to be taken
into consideration was that the powers
signatory to the treaty should see to it
that the reforms required by that iustru-
ment were carried into effect. The
Cyprus convention laid special obligations
upon England, and such an expression of
impotency as that conveyed by the state
ment which had been made by the premier
had never before been made by q British
minister. Was this. he asked, peace with
honor?
Continuing, Lord Rosebery said that the
action of the government regarding Ar
menia was most mysterious. He felt fore
ed to believe, he said, that the, govern
ment had decided to abandon the cause
of the Armenians and that Lord Sails
bury was prepared to repudiate the ut
and in the Guildhal
AS regards Venezuela Lord Rosebery
maintined that the sending of Maxim
guns to British Guiana had not a little
to do with causing the alarm felt by the
United States He hoped he said that
further explanations would be made with
proceeding between England and Vene-
zuela.
Continuing, Lord Rosebery said he well
coined the intervention of the United
States in the Venezuelan matter, mas
much as 1t introduced into the question
the important element of a solid, sub
stantial government offering to guarantee
the permanence ef al. settlement that
might be arrived at. He welcomed with
infinite joy the indications in the speech
from the throne that there had been COM
munications between Great Britain ana
the United States in the direction of an
equitable arrangement. Two things might
be heartily welcomed as the outcome OF
the difficulty with the United States. The
frst was the unbounded expression OF
loyalty by Canada (cheers), and, second,
the serious movement on both sides in
favor of permanent machinery by which
questions referable to arbitration could be
dealt with without loss of dignity or Inn
pairment OF the sovereign rights of either.
Prime Minister Salisbury followed Lord
Rosebery. He said he concurred with
Lord Rosebery that the minglng Of the
United States in the Venezuelan ques-
tion might from some point of view, con-
duce to desirable results. He did not
think the invoking of the Monroe doc
trine was controversally quite unneces-
sary. Considering the position of Vene-
zuela in the Caribbean sea, 1t was no
more unnatural that the United States
than Great Britain should take an inter-
est in Holland or Belgium, and from that
point OF view ne trusted that the negOtia-
tions would continue. 1t was obviously
undesirable to state at present the con-
dition of the negotiations, but he had had
an increasing belief during the last few
weeks that, although prehaps after long
negotiations, a satisfactory settlement
would be found, and that all danger of
a rupture of the relations between the
two nations would be entirely removed
(CheerS), He did not wish the House to
think that an agreement had yet
been arrived at lie thought
tion of arbitration. The United States at
tached a more unrestricted value upon
that method Of adjusting defenses than
mad hitherto been done in England He
concurred with Lord Rosebery that the
proposal that the will Of an arbitrator
might hand over 10000 British subjects to
Venezuela could not be accepted. but he
believed that means might be found by
combining negotiations and arbitration, 10
to a settlement had been the extravagant
claims of Venezuela when she treated the
whole country as far as the Essequibo as
undeniably hers, and then broke off dipIo-
matte relations with Great Britain. But
for that he believed the difficulty would
have been solved long ago.
He agreed that mutual development of
the desire for arbitration was satisfac-
tory. He thought 1t impossible TO adopt
arbitration unrestricted as to subject ma.-
ter and conditions, but between the ex.
tremes of handing everything over to ar
bitration and the former practice Of u.s.
ing too little he fully believed that there
was q DlQQIe ground WNlCn would Gffepf-
ually diminish the chances of a conflict
anent differences of opinion. (Cheers)
Lord Salisbury rebutted Lord Rosebery's
criticisms of the governments Armenian
policy. He said he defied anybody to dis
cover in the treaties or in his own Speeches
a promise or threat that Great Britain
would war against the sultan unless he
governed better. He defended at length
the governments policy on the lines of his
speech delivered by him on Han.
81 at the meeting Of the non-conformist
unionists, in which he ascribed the afro
cities in Armenia to the passions Of race
and creed. He believed that the suItan's
government was wrietched and impotent
but there was no ground for imagining
that the sultan had instigated the rnassa-
cres. England lacked the power 10 do
the only thing necessary to end the
troubles, namely, to occupy with military
the Turkish province Patience must he
exercised and the sultan be given time to
enforce the reforms he had promised
The Duke of Argyle gave notice that he
would at an early date call the attention
of the House to Great Britain's obliea-
tions in regard to Turkey and would sub
NIT recommendations as to the course
she ought to pursue.
The address in reply to the queens
speech was agreed to by the House Of
Lords.
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