Birmingham state herald., 1896-02-14
HEALY ADMITS DlSL0YALTY
DilIon's Amendment to the Queens Speec'
 Vas Rejected.
THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT SUSTAINED
Premier Bourgeoise Demanded Vote of Confidence and Got It-Germany Only Protected Her Interests in Africa,
 Said Won Bieberstein.

London, Feb l3.--ln the house or com mons today Joseph Chamberlain, secre- tary of state for the colonies. said in re- ply to question put by Sir Ellis Ash- mead Bartlett that only three of the Ult- flanders arrested in Johannesburg ana taken to Pretoria were now in jail at the latter place, and 1t was his belief that II any of them were or should fall i'll they would be released in Il manner similar to that in which John Hays Hammond, the American mining engineer, was set at liberty. In view of the facts. however, that the inquiry into the cases or the men arrested had been adjourned without date he was considering whether 1t would not be proper to suggest to the Transvaal government that they be released on ball.
 Mr. George N. Cursor, parliamentary secretary for foreign affairs, made statement in regard to the small island of Trinidad. occupation Of which IS now the subject of dispute between Great Britain and Brazil. It was occupied by Great Britain, he said, in 1851, and evac- uated the following year. Subsequently Great Britain reoccupied the island af- ter communications on the subject mad passed between England and Portugal. The government, Mr. Cursor said, had been disposed to submit the dispute with Brazil over the occupation of the island to arbitration. The island of Trinidad, he said, had not been ceded to Brazil when it was abandoned by Great Britain, but to Portugal. Brazil had not at that time an independent existence. The re- occupation of the island by England was not based upon the ground of her pre- vious occupation, but because having been abandoned for a century the island belonged to nobody.
 The debate on the address in reply to the speech from the throne was resumed. the subject being the amendment offered by MT. John Dillon, member for East Mayo, declaring that the absence of bill providing for the self-government of Ireland had aroused discontent among the Irish and increased the difficulties ex- isting in foreign affairs.
 Sir William Vernon Harcourt leader of the opposition, said it was the belief of the opposition that the discontent pre- vaillng in Ireland would not be extin- guished until the demands of the Irish for local self-government had been grant ed. They would never cure the disorders of many centuries unless they went to the root of the evil The government had said that it would never grant home rule.
 Never was a word which, in the lib- eral interpretation, was an unwise word, especially in the mouth of the occupant of the office of chief secretary for Ire land, and he would advise the chief sec retary to modify the expression to hard ly ever" The future of home rule, he said, depended much upon the. course pursued by the Irish members. Home rule certainly did not get great deal of encouragement from MT. John Red mond. whose policy, Sir William said, appeared to be to attack home rulers wherever he found them. (Cries of hear. hear) Sir William, continuing, said that nothing had occurred to alter the home rule policy of the opposition and they continued to adhere thereto as they had repeatedly declared. Qrish cheers)
 Mir. Arthur J. Balfour said that he be- lieved that when the Irish at home and abroad realized that parliament was sin cerely and earnestly desirous of giving Ireland a full and rightful and generous measure of justice change of opinion would occur removing al once and for all time the dissensions between the two na- tions
 Mr. Timothy M. Healy, anti-Parnellite, admitted his disloyalty to England. He had been sent to this parliament to secure the establishment of native Irish par lament and his endeavor, therefore, would be to harass, attack and thwart n every way the policy of those who re- Used to grant Ireland home rule
 MT. Dillon's amendment was rejected by a vote of 276 to 160.
 MT. Henry Labouchere, the weli-known radical, moved an amendment to the ad- dress declaring that the Jameson inquiry ought to include the financial and polit- ical actions of the British South Africa company.
 The Hon. Joseph Chamberlain said that he having carefully examined into the facts connected with the raid into tho Transvaal believed that MT. Cecil Rhodes, the directors of the British South African company, the reform committee Johannesburg and Sir Hercules Robin son. governor of Cape Colony, were all equally ignorant of the action of Dr. Jameson. Mir. Chamberlain protested against prejudicing the case The Trans vaal government. he added. was respon- sble for acts it would be difficult to jusu- fy. President Kruger in showing mod eration now only followed the example of Great Britain on previous occasions.
 MT. Chamberlain further said that the inquiry would include the objects of the proposed amendment Nobody knew what the outcome would be of the trial of Dr. Jameson or the trial of the prisoners at Pretoria The government had an open mind regarding the inquiry. He had nothing to do with MT Rhodes re- turn to Africa. MT. Rhodes had told him that he was going back with the sole ob- ject of developing Rhodesia. It would be an act of iugratitude now, when sus- picion hung over him, to forget the serv- ices he had done and might do the coun- try.
 MT. Chamberlain announced that Pres ident Kruger complained about the publi- cation of the dispatches sent by him (Chamberlain) to Sir Hercules Robinson reviewing the causes that led to Dr. Jamesons raid into the Transvaal. enum- erating the grievances of the Uitlanders and suggesting scheme of reform, in- cluding the granting of limited autonomy to the inhabitants of the Rand. This dis patch also contained an invitation for President Kruger to visit England to dis cuss the questions at issue. and said that if he should be unable to accept the invi- tation MT. Chamberlain relied upon Gov ernor Robinson to prosecute negotiations for upholding the Anglo-Boer convention of 1884 President Kruger. Mir. Chamber lain further said. also complained that he (Chamberlain) had interfered with the i:l-