The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1896-04-19

satisfy his wants a. the brain worker. and
only those who xiii Dot work are TO suffer.
All or Noehing.
Il Do not believe In any Socialism that
lacks either Of these points. and am NOT
friend OF the attempts made from time
TO time to experiment with them in iso-
lated communities built up simply to Try
their worth. Neither do l recognize the
coliectavistic tendencies in late English
legislation ~ SociAiistic- Municipal tram
ways and gas houses, improvements
though they may be over private enter
prise. are not Socialism. They are con-
ductsd on the same principle that obtains
anywhere else under the capitalistic reg
Tine. and II In this that seek to overthrow
/ viii say. however that all this munich
paiization Of property helps TO prepare for
Socialism in that II puts the people more
and more in possession OF the means OF
ciaiism comes. 90 much less appropriation
will be necessary"
What do you think Of Bellamy's ideas.
and has his book been much read In Ger
many
There II no doubt that he has achieved
. measure of success with us. but only as
novelist HIS book has been widely read,
and with interest. but no one has dreamed
OF trying TO put his ideas Into practice He
writers do. and cannot discover that lis
book has had any influence one way or an
other"
How do you explain that Socialism has
made so little Roadway IN England COM
pared with its success In GermanyT'
Il explain 1; in this way: The indepen-
dence OF the English working man has
long been far greater than that OF the Ger
man. He has had more powerful infiu-
In - ~ ttA l1x -vrA
has been able to make this influence felt in
parliamentary legislation. His employer
has also be IN clever enough to treat him
half fairly and has consequently satisfied
somewhat his sense Of justice. Besides
this. England's long monopoly OF the
worlds trade fas permitted the workmen
there higher standard Of life than has
been possible with us In our undeveloped
and cramped condition. This, think, ac-
counts for the backwardness of Socialism
across the channel. Now. however. that
England's monopoly is being weakened and
the competition with the continent is be-
coming fiercer, the standard Of life OF the
English workingman is approaching that
OF his continental prototype. This will
doubtless continue until the conditions
both in the island and on the continent are
about the same and then the English la
borer will feel as the German does"
Would you say the same in regard to
American"
I'm a way. yes You have been able to
offer your Industrial classes an even higher
standard of life than has been possible in
England. For long time you had thou
sands OF acres of unappropriated land and
this you have handed over to the working
man at fair prices. Your natural wealth
in mines. etc. has also given you great
advantage. and the quick development OF
the country has furnished work for all
who wanted It, Now. however. that the
land Is practically all taken UP and Europe
Is sending you its surplus OF probe tarians.
the conditions of life are getting to be
similar to those here. and the time il not
far dis;An. when the workingmen will be
forced 20 organize and fight for their
rights as they have in Europe. When that
time comes Socialism will make Its way.
and perhaps more quickly than anywhere
else"
do you think that the present interest
In the German workmen shown by the
kaiser and the Conservatives Is likely to
hurt your cause?"
Suspicious Socialists
Not In the ieazt. In the first place. all
the sudden interest IL merely an attempt
to hinder the spread Of Socialism, and the
workingman understands II perfectly. In
the imperial message OF Kaiser wilhelm l..
for example. which came out in 1881. from
which time most OF the modern legislation
In favor OF the iaboring classes can be
dated, IL vas frankly admitted that only by
such tender treatment OF the lower classes
can Social Democracy be defeated II cid
not come from love OF the workingmen,
but rather fear that Socialism was spread
ing so rapidly among them that . great
disaster was menacing the state unless
the working class could be appeased.
Th., too a, the same time that these re-
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