The Saint Paul globe. (St. Paul, Minn.) 1896-1905, 1896-08-16

Mr.. Lowry consult the University ave-
nue. property owners. They are en-
titled to hearing. The Broadway
loop is all right, and a great majority
favor 1t, but the jobbers are not going
to get it at the expense of the Uni
versity avenue people. We don't pro-
pose, in other words, that half dozen
of you fellows shall run the city"
Theodore Schumacher, at whom Mr..
Murray was looking as he uttered the
preceding words, resented the insinu-
alton in language little in conflict
with the third commandment.
Mr.. Murray resumed his argument
against granting the street railway
company the rights expressed in the
ordinance
'It is proposed" continued Mr. Muir
ray, ito turn University avenue into
one big railroad track or highway and
we protest against it. All | have to
say Is that there should be power
enough in this common council to COM
pei Mr. Lowry to construct loop to
Broadway, without giving him the
whole city of ST. Paul. And If he Is to
be given any additional franchise on
University avenue, he should be COM
PEELED to grade and pave the street"
l.. II. Chamberlain, representing
property holders who are advocating
the Broadway loop, said that no mat
ter now the ordinance was modified, 1t
would be satisfactory, provided 1t Sc
cured the Broadway loop. Aid Bige-
low wanted to, know why the street
railway company could not be COM
PEELED to construct a loop to Broadway
without the city granting any addi-
tlonal rights or concessions
This question could not be answered
as the lawyers disagree as to power Of
the council in this respect.
Aid. Shepard said that a few prop
erty owners on the south side Of Uni
verSlty avenue, whom he represented
objected to the four tracks, thinking
tney would prove dangerous, but Aid
shepard thought they were laboring
under wrong impression, as Univer-
slty avenue was 120 feet wide, there
would still be, after laying four tracks
81 feet of roadway left on each side Of
the tracks. Furthermore, the express
cars, so Aid. Shepard believed, would
not run at much greater rate of speed
than the present interurban cars Aid
shepard was not prepared to say that
four tracks on University avenue would
be injurious to property or not.
Charles w. Chase, who ownes proper
ty on University avenue near st. An
thony park, said that the construction
OF two additional tracks on University
avenue would ruin his property Mr..
OAiooC duueu Iildl ne CONSIDERED y MI
versity avenue a residence and not a
business street
The last gentleman to express an
opinion was Mr. Kirk, of Farwell,
Ozmun, Kirk & Co., Mr.. Kirk said:
I object to any insinuation that the
Jobbers are willing to sacrifice others
interests in order to secure advantages
for themselves. That is not so. The
jobbers want the Broadway loop. We
recognize ia of hot nj n
transit is needed, but we are not par
ticular what street is selected for the
route to Minneapolis. We simply sug-
gested University avenue because it
seemed the most practicable street.
The proposition is submitted to your
committee merely as the opinion Of
the jobbers. AS to the ordinance, sew
eral things in it require careful consid-
GRAFTON. For instance, the section
granting the right to operate cars for
the carrying Of express matter That
is valuable concession that ought to
be we'll considered. But as far as rapid
transit Is concerned, you will never get
1t. II you depend upon the consent Of
the property owners, along the street
to be occupied by the express line. They
will always object. But we must have
the Broadway loop. In this respect
the city is behind the tines
This closed the discussion, where
upon the committee decided to meet at
Z p. m. on Wednesday, Aug. 26, to fur
Their consider the matter. Another or
dinance will be submitted directing the
construction Of a loop to Broadway
and requiring the street railway COM
pany to operate it's interurban, Grand
avenue, Como ovenue and Hamline
cars around such loop.
The bicyf ordinance was again laid