Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1896-11-18
SAYS HE KISSED HER.
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feel that II Is my duty TO do SO. Do you
know a man named BowersY
Eyes. sir
did you employ him az detective TO
go up to Bluefeld."
Yes, sir"
"To hunt up evidence against these
young ladies?"
mot to hunt up testimony against the
young ladies'. but against the man."
Nov. Mr.. Thalhimer, are you sure
you cid rot send Bowers M there TO
look up evidence against the glrls?''
II sent him 10 Bluefield 10 look up evil
dence against the whole business"
did you write any letters to Mr.. Bow
ers touching this matter?'
mo. sir; left the whole matter to my
brother. Mr. Moses Thalhimer. lie con-
Quoted the correspondence"
Mr.. Thalhimer. do you know Mr..
Baker?" Intercepted Mr.. Smith OF the
witness.
Yes. sir; know Mr.. Baker-Pollceman
Baker,
HAS not Mr.. Baker been doing some
detective work in this case?'
mo. sir Mr.. Baker has been doing his
duty in the case
did you pay him any money!
mo. sir"
did your brother pay him any money
or agree to pay him anythng2'
Not TO my knowledge. / suppose not"
MIR. Thalhimer was briefly cross-eXam-
ned by Mr.. Richardson. who asked II II
was not fact that Mr.. Bowers was sent
to Blueheld. W. Va, because OF letters
received here touching the past history of
the family of winners. To this the
witness replied in the affirmative. and
said that very many letters of this char
10 fr.
KISSED HER HAND AT HIM
Edwin Hall Ccolored) testified that he
had been at work for Mr. Thalhimer TOR
a couple Of years as driver. He knew
where Mr.. Winner lived He had been
there with Mr.. Samuel Thalhimer. lie
had passed the house several times with
Mr. Sammy. and several times before Sep
TENDER II. 1895. saw Miss Ida WINNER
kiss her hand at Mr.. Thalhimer three or
four times. He never saw Mr.. Thalhmer
20 there before he was taken sick After
witness got well he saw Mr. Sammy Thai
himer 90 10 Mr.. Winners house several
times, probably a dozen times. II saw
MIN carry whiskey into Mr.. Winners
house twice-once in February and agcin
I can't remember exactly when." con-
tinued the witness Il was at the store
one evening about the last OF April or
there. When first saw him there # was
about 6 o'clock. Mr. WINNER and Mr.
Sammy Thalhimer were at the store to-
gether. Mr. WINNER stayed there from
about $3.50 TO 10 o'clock. Mr. WINNER was
at the store when I went 10 supper and
when | returned from supper. ] only saw
him take about two drinks he drank
whiskey both times. ] saw Mr. Thai
himer. the young man, give Mr.. WINNER
some money-half dollar. | did not see
Mr. WINNER pay Mr.. Thalhimer any
money. l don't know what Mr. Thai
himer gave Mr.. WINNER the money for. d"
Mr.. Folkes cross-examined the witness
very rigidy. asking him how many other
girls he had seen throw kisses at Mr.
Thalhimer. Hail said that he could not
remember any other young ladies who
had done this but Miss Ida WINNER.
Didn't you see some young ladies'
throwing kisses at him on Twenty-sixth
street," asked Mr.. Foxes.
mo, sir" replied the witness; " have
seen him lifting his hat to young ladies'
he knew as he passed them along the
street"
After answering a number of questions
as TO his own history and work. Hall
was asked by Mr.. Smith where Miss
WINNER was when she kissed her hand
at Mr. Thalhimer. 10 which the witness
said she was looking out from one of the
windows Of the WINNER house The wit
ness created much laughter by initiating
Miss WINNER throwing kisses at Mr.
Thalhimer.
Lewis Hall (colored) was put on the
stand. He said he was a brother TO Ed
ward. and worked al the Tredegar
Works. but from last September 20 jan
uary he drove Mr.. Thalhimer's wagon in
A. f4lgnl ~ fc L. L. rlss.a
Mr.. WINNER lived and went by there many
times with Mr. Sammy Thalhimer. He
saw one OF the young ladies at the VIM
mer house kiss her hand at Mr. Thalhi-
mer. This was repeated several times.
Witness used TO drive by there nearly
every morning H had seen Mr.. Thai
hmer go TO Mr.. Winners as often as
twice a day, and two or three times a
week
This witness was rigidly cross-exam-
ined by Mr.. Smith and Mr.. Folkes. who
had him 10 show them how Miss VIM
mer threw those kisses at Mr.. Thalhi-
mer.
STORY OF THE PORTER.
The next witness called in rebuttal was
T. T.. Walker. a colored porter at Mr..
Thalhimer's store, who, 10 a considerable
extent, corroborated the testimony Of
Edward Hall. He said that on the eve
ming when WINNER was at Mr. Thalhi-
mer's store he was there until nearly
$50 o'clock. and probably a little later
II went home to supper that evening
leaving the store about $50 o'clock and
returning about s o'clock. / then founG
Mr. Sammy Thalhimer. Eddie Hall. and
Mr. WINNER there. and Mr.. WINNER re-
manned until l got ready TO close up. He
took two drinks with Mr.. Sammy Thalhi-
mer. drinking whiskey both times.
While Mr. WINNER was there he had a
large knife in his hands, with which he
was picking his finger-nails. / also saw
Mr. WINNER borrow half dollar from
Mr. Sam. Thalhimer."
Mr. Smith subjected this witness to a
long and tedious REORGANIZATION. He
asked him many questions to test his
recollection of the events of the evening
IN May. when Mr.. WINNER was at Mr.
Thalhimer's store.
Mr.. Richardson finally asked the wit
ness If anything peculiar occurred that
evening to impress the incidents Of the
evening upon his memory, to which he
replied In the affirmative.
SAW HIM KISS HER.
Bartold Goodman. young white man,
who was a friend of young Thalhimer,
went with that young man TO Mr.
Winners several times. Mr.. Richard
son asked him how many times ne had
been TO Winners house, and the reply
was six or seven times, probably eight
times One time he went with young
Thalhimer. Miss Ada WINNER was
across the street with another young
lady. Witness and Mr.. Thalhimer pro-
posed TO these girls and to Miss Ida May
WINNER to ride over TO Forest Hill on
the street-car, and all the young ladies
wanted TO go. ada went in the house"
young Goodman continued, Ito speak to
her mother about the matter. She re-
turned very soon. and said that she
IN her sistar had 10 go M on the hill 10