New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1896-07-17
NEW RAPID TRANSIT PLANS
ROTH ELEVATED AND UNDERGRouND
ROUTES PROPOSED.
THE MANHATTAN COMPANY LAYS ITS VLTiNAi'"
pEroRE THE CoMMIssloNERs-oHiE En-
c,xrrR PARSONS STILL. FIGHTING on


Could appeared before the Rapid Tran
-. ',ro,,rr,ss,on Yesterday and submitted a"
,.ooasd ann,ication in behalf of the Mammalian
I,,.,ad Railroad Company for PERMISSION " ca
tend its lines lie submitted his plan d. d" NV
matum and in a letter to the Conhiss''
that the proposed extensions couiu oi'iS " ~,
terminated under q condition that there be no sun
stantial claim for damages on the p"i' VI P''
srtv-owners along the proposed routes
~, ,,a,s Nc amended provide that the line, III
,,oaa of continuing along the Westminster ho"o
m the pronx River. will pursue tha' ro"u o'''' "
sar as Intervale-ave Thence along lh'er'aie-"'''
the course winds into the Boston Road ana '"e'''
northeast 10 the Southern Boulevaru' anu '''o''s "
10 One-hundret and eighty seventh-st, where
. .os, viii he taken to Bronx Parkway.
1,hence II runs into Pelham Road. diverging fur-
Their north into the old Boston Post Roao' rro''
there q northerly course is proposed throue" pr
yate property and Bronx Wood Park 10 'e"a'-a|
thence across Briggs-ave. to Fourtn-aNe' """
through private property Fourth-st. in the Town
of Wliamsville.
ON This line the company asks PERMISSION W '
O four-track road. .
Mr. Gould asked permission to buid a ro"e'
road operated by overhead wires. over the ioiio"-
Ing route place of the extension proposed a'o"s
the Fordham Road from Northumberland seventy
seventh-st to St. Johns College grounds: FROM the
Kingsbridgc Road at it's intersection with Nander-
b,lt-sve to the Fordham station of the Hudson
River Railroad: 10 Marion-ave; through heuioiu
Park crossing Mosholu Parkway. to Gun mn
Road: 10 Jeromo-ave. thence south along Jerome
ave and through private property TO the New-fork
and Putnam Railroad Companys bridge: across
the bridge to Cnc-hundred-and ffty-hfth-st and
Fighth-ave connecting with the present IL
structure there. Only one fare 10 lie charged TOT
q continuous Trip over the roads ard proper Trans
fers and stations TO be accorded
These propositions Were discussed in desuitory
,l.f,, 4i~C mn a
ers were Julien I. Davies, counsel for the elevated
road: Captain Joseph Goulden, Lawson y. Fuller
and ex-Judee Ernest Hall.
TEMPORARY TROLLEY LINES.
Mr. Gould asked that excepting on the proposed
trolley route his company he allowed TO as mo-
tive power compressed air. electricity or steam
He said that a trolley system was devised simply
as n temporary remedy through district tnat was
so sparsely populated that the company could not
at present its way clear 10 operate OF p'io All
elevated structure
When asked whether the refusa! Of three or four
pro,.erty-owners would cause the company 10 aban-
don its plans. he replied 1t would rot out mat ne
certainly would expect over 10 per cent OF 'he 10
favor his plan or waive their rights for damages
Tax Commissioner Wells. ex-Judge Hall ana cap
tain Goulden assured Mr. Gould and the Commits
sion that the consents of over 20 per cent or the
property-owners along the proposed eastern route
had been secured They said they had no DOUBT
that consents for the other proposed routes could
be had too for the asking.
When asked If the company meant 10 include Ill
its plan the condition that 1t be freed from all
claims for damages brought by downtown property
owners AS based on the additional tracks asked Tor
in the old structures. Mr.. Gould said that such was
not the
The Commission then went into executive session.
The following is Mr. Goulds letter dou'esse' !"
the Commissioners:
OF extending
haitian Elevated road by means of surface railroads
,b nsrsey settled districts OF the upper
wards II adopted by the Commission VIII enapie ,is
S0psshy 70 r ss transit facilities without sraning
the resources of the MANHATTAN Rallway SolnpsI i
,'oytion Of the annexed district. embracing the vii
lagos of West Chester and unionport - not p o
,ided in this application with any line OF road ioI
ne rea son that it has yet been mapped and
streets therein have not yet been locatea SO as 10
SON as tile maps are completed for this district
the Manhattan Railway Company VIII al once s
a view Of accommodating the population
TO BE FINISHED IN FIVE YEARS.
believe the Board of Directors of the Manhattan
Company will agree TO complete, within five years.
all OF the lines and facilities for which the company
makes application. The company is also Wiling 10
agree that elevated railroads shall he substituted for
the surface roads when the earnings of the surface
railroads will justify the substitution am anVlssd
that owing 70 ihe proysons OF SedI h 90 " now
tSa oower 10 authorize the construction and opera
ton Of rosd upon the o. o5 VIZ
can be entertained that If an agreement De re'tCheu
between the Board Of Rapid Transit Kair0ad 0on
that the views of the communities 20 De setvea
by the extended lines the Legsature VIII no as viii
permit the interests of the public to he serSeu.
santntives Of the properly holders in the Twenty
third and fourth wards that the routes out
lined are satisfactory 70 them, and that substanii;
ailv no claims for land damages will be MADE ana
this application is based on these assurances. su.
of the routes and viii have to be changed when
accurate surveys are made As am ss auoui was de-
sirous that the application of the Manhattan Ball
way Company should be RersSisd IN iaGn lOT
once the general principle of granting RAPID trant
facilities TO ne of the lines Of the
Railway Company upon the suriace 'e mhIac;
therefore, to place ea tnesf lion ro"'eS
to some future inoo'''ea''o" GEORGE j. GOULD.
THE UNDERGROUND SCHEME.
long reply was received from Messrs. Boardman
4 Shepard the counsel for the Commission on 'he
question whether the Commission could avail itself
~ the consent secured from the General Term OF the
sunrsre Court If il should now determine TO build
the rand transit system approved by the former
Board of Rapid Transit The counsel were OF the
opinion that If the Legislature would reheVe inc
Board Of the obligation now imposed upon IL 10
adhere to the principle Of municipal constructon-f
in other words the exact status at the date OF the
ATTEMPTED sale Of the franchise were restored by
the Iegslature-the Board could avail Itself OF the
consent already secured.
At the executive session Of the Board the chief
engineer at the request Of the Commission. HANDED
In the following report:
Pursuant 10 your verbal instructions. beg leave
TO submit the following scheme for a rapid transit
railroad TO be constructed under the provisions
OF the Rapid Transit statutes. The scheme thus
roughly Outlined has been prepared as the result
OF numerous consultations with the counse, OF
the Board and is believed to BE In strict conform
NV with the requirements of the law and with the
reauiremert implied by the opinions Of the Justices
OF the Appellate Division
r suggest a route commencing at the southwest
corner OF City Hall Park with a station on
Rr,adway Thence with two-track loop around
the park merging into track road at
brooklyn Bridge. Thence noriherly With four