The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1896-05-09


the peers gallery packed, this gather
ing being due to the fact that vote
on the colonial estimates was to be
taken and it was to be made the occa-
sion of an important exchange OF
questions and answers upon South
African affairs.
The Liberal leader Sir William Yer
non Harcourt, asked the government
to make a statement regarding
THE RAID INTO TRANSvAAL.
He said the opposition had hereto not
unduly pressed the government on this
important matter, but they thought
the time had arrived for the house to
be informed of the governments in
tention. The responsible directors of
the Chartered South African company
at Cape Town and johannesburg were,
he said the authors of the raid and DR..
Jameson was only their subordinate.
| The government was responsible for
the acts of the Chartered company be-
fore the nation and the world. Gap
plause from the opposition benches.)
Harcourt analysed the kilograms that
had passed between Cecil Rhodes,
| Colonel Rhodes, Rutherford Harris. Al
fred Belt, Lionel Phillips, DR.. Jane
son and others just before the inVa-
| sion of the territory of the South At
rican republic Later the opposition
leader eulogized the promptness, de-
cision and courage of the secretary of
state for the colonies, Joseph Chamber
lain, and dwelt upon the course of the
Chartered company, declaring that 1t
had compromised
GREAT BRITAIN'S REPUTATION.
Sir William Harcourt also said he
did not believe that Cecfl Rhodes was
actuated by the desire of gain, but
rather by greed of power.
The speaker also remarked that he
had noticed with regret the deteriora-
ton Of the morals of the English press
in dealing with the subject.
Chamberlain, in reply to Harcourt,
said that while Cecil. Rhodes recent
actions are universally condemned,
his past services must not be forgot
ten. But for Englishmen like Rhodes,
English history would be much poorer
and British dominions much smaller.
(Applause)
Both English and the African Beers
Of the Cape, continued Chamberlain,
thought Cecil Rhodes the greatest ben
powerless in the future to do mischief,
as not an armed man could be moved
without the authority of the govern
ment's own officers. and they were
ready to give President Kruger any
reasonable guarantee, with view of
removing every shadow of suspicion.
The government had refused to advise
the Chartered company relative to
Rhodes resignation. But, in view of
the disturbances in Rhodesia and the
impossibility of finding out the opinion
of the settlers. they thought 1T fair
that the directors should be given time
to consider the matter. They thought
Rhodes was in his proper place in
South Africa, WHISTLER as a director or
stockholder, and there he was best
LEFT ALONE WITH THE PAST
After the judicial proceedings were
ended, the government, added Cham
berlain, would review the situation in
the light of the information obtained.
Chamberlain said the government be-
lfeved the proper course to follow would
be that a joint committee of both
houses should inquire into the whole
situation, including the administration
of the British Chartered company. The
policy Of the government, he explained
was to prevent absolutely the recur-
renee of the regretable proceedings and
TO continue by every legitimate means
the efforts to secure fair and equal
treatment of British subjects in the
Transvaal. and restore amity between
the two races there.
Mr.. Chamberlain further said that
recent events had reopened the whole
of the great South African question,
which had been the
GRAVE OF MANY regulations.
Sir William Harcourt, he added, had
dealt with only one phase of the ques-
ton. His speech was a powerful indict-
ment. not only of the Chartered COM
pany, but of the prisoners at Pretoria,
and the men undergoing trial in Eng
land. He, Mr.. Chamberlain could not
discuss that part of the affair. He
could only say he believed there was
but one feeling in the house. namely
that if the sole object was to get
condemnation of the cryptograms pol
icy they had indicated this could be
done without any further discussion.
But, many interests were at stake
and developments were being anxiously
and carefully watched by foreign ma
tions. Under these circumstances, and
in view also of the situation of the
prisoners at Pretoria, there were many
things which it was
UNDESIRABLE TO MENTION
at present. The speaker added: THE
object of our policy in South Africa is
mount state, and, secondly, to engen-
der union and concord between the two
races there. The recent raid had jeop-
ardiZed the first and delayed the Sec
ond.
The prosperity and happiness of
South Africa are dependent upon the
realization Of the same state of things
as attained in Canada, where two races
less closely allied than the English and
the Dutch. work, fight and live side
by side in perfect peace and good will"
Mr. Chamberlain then proceeded to
point out the TransvaaPs breaches of
the convention with England.
In concluding, Mr.. Chamberlain said
1T had been suggested that the govern
ment should have
ISSUED AN ULTIMATUM
to President Kruger. Put such an I'LL
timatum would certainly have been re-
jected, which would have led TO war
OF course, he added, there might be
contingencies in which a great power
should have to face such an alternative.
If some of these wild rumors attribut-
ing to President Krueger's designs TO
break the London convention and to
make an armed attack upon Natal had
been true. we would then have been
on the defensive. burt. he pointed out,
the government could not take military
measures ITO force internal reforms in
the Transvaal."
Mr.. Chamberlain denied that Gov
ernor Robinson had been called from
his post, and he asserted that the
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