The Hawaiian gazette., 1896-03-27

Vi ESCAPE we cannot establish work
shops. because there would be no de-
nland for the products. think il would
be wise 10 allow this additional amount
so We may Try the experiment.
No action pending report of the CON-
mittee
Rep. Rycroft asked that the items in
the Finance Department be reSonsid-
cred so that new item could be intro
drceL- Ee then read the following
item:
Expense auditing accounts bureaus
and departments. 81 500: the result OF
said audits 10 be published in the news
papers"
Minister Damon hoped the item would
pass, as it had happened during the De
Rod that two or three departments had
not been properly conducted. This
would allow the employment OF man
when Occe son required, rather than
having an Office of this character on the
list The Government has lost nothing
by the irregularities mentioned. except
as II reflects upon the heads for the bad
management of The Offices. l think il
this item pass, and The employees Of the
various departments know tnat the re-
suit of such audits viii be published in
the daily papers, il VIII make them
careful. Its this very fact o. publicity
which some men fear. and believe We
will save more than the 81, 500 asked
for.
Rep. Rycroft-There is no reason why
the item should not be passed. None OF
the men who have taken public funds
during the period but what expected 10
put the money back. If they learn
that their accounts may be audited al
any time and the result published,
am sure this practice of borrowing
public funds will cease There are men
on the islands who have been handling
Government funds for years whose
books have never been examined.
| Rep. Hanuna-This may cut both
ways If an outside auditor is TO be en-
ployed. the people on the other islands
will grow suspicious and think the min
listers and officers have been knocking
down. If this is so ! think We had bet
ter start in and get new Executive
| have no faith in such measure; nc
good can come of il, and it shows that
we have no confidence in you.
: Minister SMITH think there is room
for an amendment There are some
things that would not do TO be pub
lished, because il might interfere with
the service Ii would be good thing
for the Auditor General to have fund
so that he might send some one away
TO audit accounts where il was neces-
sary, but doubt if it would be wise al
all times TO publish results.
Rep. Rycroft-I must differ from the
Attorney General in his remarks. This
is not a close corporation, and when il
is shown that man is dishonest there
is no reason why the matter should not
be given light
n Minister Smith Gnterrupting) Let
me stop you right there. 1t may be that
the auditor would see something sus-
picious, but it would not do TO publish
it. because il would defeat the end for
which the appropriation was asked.
move that the motion be amended to
read with consent of Executive Coun-
cil'' after the word published"
Rep. Rycroft-You certainly would
not publish a discovery if it had not
been made.
Minister Smiths amendment carried
Board of Education
Salary of Deputy Inspector, $500
Passed
Salary of Secretary, Sc, 500. Passed
Messenger and Book Clerk, 81 500
Passed.
Support of English and Hawaiian
schools, 1896, 400.
Minister Damon-Connected with this
appropriation there are few points Oh
which wish TO speak. There has been
great progress made in the Board since
left it / would ask that the appro-
priation be made, as the executive made
it-s372 600. l am willing TO make it
s12 900 more, but l am satisfied they can
get along with less than they have ask
ed for. If Rycroft's amendment had
passed. matters would be different in
the Board of Education. l am satisfied
that the Board, with little rust
ling" can get on with the 1884 900
which / am perfectly willing they
should have / admit that ii will re-
quire careful management, but that is
what is required. find upon inyestiga-
ton that there are $50 paid employees OH
the pay roll of the Board Of Education,
but of this number only 252 are classed
as teachers; the balance is made up Of
janitors, etc President Alexander has
told me that he can get along with
sSS4,OO0.
Rep. kamanohu wanted to know
where the Committee on Education got
its figures.
Rep Bond-From the Board of Edu-
cation.
Rep. Kamanohu-I think the matter
should be sent back to the committee
for further Information. l want to know
what the number of teachers is, and the
average number of pupils to each OF
them. This is a large increase in the
appropriation, though the Government
has ceased giving aid to private schools.
Really, the appropriation should be less.
The committee comes in with lot of
figures and tells US they have found
out this or that, but want something