The Norfolk Virginian. [volume] (Norfolk, Va.) 186?-189?, 1896-01-21
SIS again. Then Mr.. Moore asked;

less again. Then Mr.. Moore asked:
Did you not make that statement to
creole about II man In the lcck OF the
teicc seeing him when they killed Bon
nrr In the hope of frightening him into
making his S~tatcIncnt?"
NO, the witness.
y numbe OF ladies' had again come
into the courtroom and they were Civ
en seats near the bar.
mir. Moore so.n ncttlcd the witness
with his sharp questions.
'Dldnt you say about what you had
told Creole that night that he was
getting scared and was about to
suneal?' WIS MIR. Simmons first uucs-
lion.
The witness said no, but he thought
that Creole was going To- confess.
"Did YOU say that you thought If
Flowers could see him he'd conress?'
mo
Did you evcr say you would get s10
anyway, and that It they were convicted
you'd get S50O?"
mo, sir
"Didn't you request Mr.. Flowers t.
see Crcdlc?"
mo; MIR. Flowers asked me to go
with him to see Creole, and l told him
! could not GO
Asked Mr.. Moore: "In the grand jury
room here 1T court did you tell Credlc
to tell 1t to them MS he had told 1t to
you?"
mo, | think not
why were you before the grand
jury with Crcdle?"
Because they sent for me-"
Ibid not some OF them say 1t was
not desirable for you to be there"
No sir"
Ibid you tell the grand jury that
Creole would make Il statement"
II may have done so. He did make
a statement"
Tho term Of the court thus far re-
fcrred 10 and the examination OF Gre
die before the grand jury was the No
veinher term. which was in session
when tho murder was committed, or
opened on Monday after the murder on
Saturday night.
Coming down to the present term of
court Mr.. Moore asked: AT present
term Of the court We're YOU with Creole
before the grand jury"
Il met him at the door and went
Did you make statements to the edi-
tors of the papcrs irere?"
Yes
Were they correct?'
THE name were wrong.''
Did YOU say that If some who are
here To be witnesses were included in
the bill of Indictment their evidence
would be w~cakcncd?'
NO"
u va IN tlliIlE lthe THAI
No" answered the witness.
Detective Fowler was now turned over
to Mr.. simmons, counsel for Brantley.
Did Hrantley know you were II de-
tective?"
II done know answered Fowler.
Did YOU say to Brantley that Creole
had made damaging statements about
him and that Creole was going TO con-
TESS. and he would better do SOP
Answered Witness: II told him he and
Creole were far ai'art in their state
mcnts."
".Ah!" said MI. Simmons. What did
You mean by that?"
II meant That their statements were
contradictory"
Did you mean to impress it upon
Brantlcy that Creole had implicated or
e~xculpated him?"
Neither answered the witness.
What do you expect for your ser
vices?"
II shall not answer that unless the
Court makes me answer said witness.
Here some sharp cuts passed between
counsel and witness and Mr.. Simmons
appealed to the Court. The Court said
it was hardly Il fair question, but per
haps the witness better tell.
Witness said that he did not expect
to he paid per diem. no more nor no less
in proportion as his efforts We're sue
ccssful: that his success had nothing to
do with his pay.
"Do you expect to quit detective work
with this Job"
No" said the witness.
y you expect S25 for your work %
With n smile, witness answered.: 81
am out more than that already"
Quickly asked Mr.. Simmons: sFor
what purpose have you been spending
money In It. pray?"
For expenses OF travel. etc"
do you expect as much as $500 for
your joh?" -
mo" answered witness.
How much less?"
Don't Know
sci to witness and by witness In answer
ne was allowed to go. The examina-
ton had been long and rigid and Il