The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-02-11

VOTED ALL THE SAME.
A. No, sir. ! did not have the oppor-
tunity 10 ind out anything ! cannot say
that ! know OF any immoral conduct, but
! do not believe that Mr.. Yates was any
too good for the charges brought against
him.
Questioned by Mr. Randolph. witness
said Captain Doyle never gave out any
liquor on political occasions. Only the
teachers and politicians did. and members
Of the board Mr. Obndorfer was then on
the board. / drank liquor in his place
myself. and so did other students. sup
pose ~ was done TO induce the boys TO
vote for the ticket supported by the au-
thority Of the institution. The institution
vote WAS polled that way. Penalties were
also held out TO those who did not vote
I'm the manner desired. ! think Mr.. Oben-
dorfer might have given liquor on other
occasions II he had something IN view.
g. What was the use Of giving you
liquor at that time? You were not old
enough 10 vote.
4. ] voted. all the same. two or three
times. ! voted in the legislative election
prior 20 1888, and / think also In tho
presidential election prior TO that l
think I was registered al the institution.
l think 7 have voted for MIR. Echols.
Captain Moon and Mr.. Humbert told me
10 80 ahead and vote. They did at first
carry us 10 the polls In a wagon. but
We objected 20 being carried like sheep.
I did not vote as far back as 1885.
have voted for Mr.. Koiner.
Q. DO you remember the YostBaum-
gardner election?
a. ] have heard something about il.
q. Who furnished the pupils with IL
quor on clection-days?
A. Captain Moon, Mr.. Ryan. Mr..
Obendorfer Mr.. Crowder. the revenue
commissioner, ana some members Of the
municipal council.
Q. Did YOU know that IL was a crime
20 vote while being under age?
\. I don't think I knew n then. but
] know now. and told the boys on my
last visit that IL was a crime but they
said they did not care.
Q. DO You know of your own know
ledge that Captain Doyle knew at the
time that YOU voted in November. 1889?
A. / do not know. and I do not know
VINO gave my name first 10 She registrar.
] cannot say that Captain Doyle en-
couragei voting under age. and ! thought
that MIR. Obendorfer had no idea ! was
OF age. / was told by some OF the en-
ploycs 10 go and vote. and keep quiet.
j think Captain Doyle asked me once II
] had voted. 1 voted I'm a municipal
election IN May before ! left the insti-
tuition. As near as | can remember. 1
voted in two elections. but cannot re-
member the names OF the candidates
whom ! voted for. / was assessed for
poll-tsx i'm 1855. but ] never paid 30.
sent the tax ticket 20 the school.
Tho committee then took "a recess until
Z o'clock.
THE Use or LIQUOR
u was al 4:25 when the session OF the
committee was resumed i'm the Senate
chamber Mr.. Cashion. VINO was recall
ell, stated that on one Christmas some
OF the boys went 10 the city AT night.
They were brought back. and the fore
man Of the matress-shop had given me
the key for the shop. and on that even
ing. ]. with some Of the boys. bought
some brandy. and next morning We had
consumed some Of 10. and while / was at
breakfast Captain Doyle asked me
for the key 10 lock up the boys IN
the room. on that occasion Captain
Doyle found the bottle OF liquor. but ! did
not tell him 10 whom IL belonged.
@. How many boys do YOU think were
addicted TO the drinking Of liquor?
A. The majority Of the large boys, ana
unfortunately some Of the smaller boys
Some Of 'he boys. who could get enough
of 10 would get drunk Some OF them
were found ont and punished. The penal
Z
cipal do not remember Of anyone
being punished. a great deal OF liquor
was consumed al the institute. and u
could have been suppressed with proper
q. You spoke Of having voted before
YOU were twenty-ono years Old; do you
know OF any others?
A. No. sir. ! don't know OF any. hut
/ have heard Of some. The drinking was
mostly done among the blind.
@. When did YOU first learn about
this investigation?
a. I heard something about IT first.
one night AT The Times office and. sub
sequently. / called on Mr.. Hathaway. anu
We spoke on the subject. When Mr..
came TO the city called ON
him AZ the hotel.
@. DO you remember a student by the
name Of Dowcll?
A. Yes. sir. ne was deaf-mute, Clar-
once Dowell. / think ne was there when !
] was. think he is a semi-mute. |
don't know whether he had been eN- |
PEELED for any reason. don't know |
whether he was addicted 10 drink. |
heard Mr.. Yates fuss with him, but |
did not know what about.
A. NJ. CARRIER.
Mr.. A. NJ. CARRIER was the next wit |
ness. / am twenty-three years old. he !
said. and live I'm Manchester. / was at |
he institution from September, 1888 until |
June 1889. l went there very young Cap |
ain Roller was the principal during the .
irst session after / entered. Captain |
boyle succeeded him.
@. DO You know Of any immortality |
between teachers and pupils?
A. ! DO not know of any.
@. What about the use OF liquor?
\. / know that liquor was used among |
he pupils / don't know that the princi-
,al used it but / know OF one teacher.
Who is now dead. ! was a student there
With Mr. Cashion. ! have known of sew
raj instances whore students We're in
0Xlcated. l was once with them on such |
IN occasion. Mr.. Humbert knew of II.
nat ne told me that ne had never in
ormed on me- Captain Doyle was away
10 the time.
O. What do YOU think OF the treatment
# the pupils by the teachers and princi-
lals
\. IL was generally mild, but / think
ould recite some instances where the
reatment was not altogether just. |
hink that Captain Doyle had been mis-
informed. This was during the sessions
SN4-'SS and 1850. / don't like TO be
Questioned ON this line. hut ! was con-
lccted with H. and II might look as n /
vas Influenced by spite. which | am not.
lid not graduate. and ! never knew
ny one graduate In the blind department.
have heard OF one instance, where /
hink. "A Miss Putnam received a diploma.
don't know OF any immortality that oc-
urred while I was there. / heard OF
hese rumors first few days after Mr.
letters had been published