The San Francisco call., 1896-03-05
QUOTATIONS FROM
CARDINAL MANNING,
Father Yorke Continues
to Deal With
Them.
MR.. ROSS MANIPULATION
His Extracts Unfit to Prove the
Civil Domination of the
Church.
RIGHTS OF MAN CONSIDERED.
The A. P. A. Leader Is Accused of
Repeatedly Mutilating Man
ning's Words.
copyright by Peter c. Yorke. 1861

| [Copyright by Peter c. Yorke. 1861
Father Yorke continues his reply to Rev.
Donald Ross as follows:
! To the Editor of the CdH-DEAR SIR: Yester-
| day was dealing with d. Ross manipulation
| of Manning. will continue the subject in
| this letter. find that D. Ross quotes and re-
| quotes the same sentences in each lecture; in
| fit to prove the heIiocentrc theory as the civil
| domination of the church. 1t will therefore
! conduce to clearness If examine all Man
| nings sayings together. AS matter OF fact,
| the most of them are taken from the one essay
! and explain one another.
| THE RIGHTS OF MAN.
| In the beginning let me deal with quota
| tion concerning the rights OF starving man.
deal with it first because it has nothing
| and wish to put 1t out of the way at once.
| In his lecture on the second proposition,
"The Pope and the priests ought to have do
m1Iion over temporal affairs d. Ross brought
| forward as proof the assertion that the church
| claims to regulate stealing. Dominion means
! sovereign and supreme authority, and how
| such authority is proved by assertions about
| stealing passes my humble comprehension.
When Sunday-school teacher inculcates the
lesson, thou shalt not steal are we to suppose
| that she claims to be Empress OF the Americas.
But to D. Ross argument. Let me copy it
out in all its vulgarily and incoherency:
| "Do you think, ladies and gentlemen, that
|
| the Catholic church's teachings as protrayed
| by Cardinal Manning:
.".A strong man commits no theft,if he saves
his life by eating OF his neighbours bread SO
much as is necessary for the support OF his ex
istence. The civil law yields before the higher
jurisdiction Of the divine as the positive divine
law yields before the natural law of God
"What picnic for tramps. (Applause.1
What picnic for those young fellows, who,
| for instance, have to be educated by the
| charity of the diocese and made priests of.
|
| enough to earn their living Remember now,
| that am dealing with this simply ques
| aw of the land That law tells what is and
| what is not stealing. do not know that if we
| were on jury we would send a starving man
that is not the question. 1t is simply this
| in this case-this is the question. Does the
Catholic church seek to put its hand down
! the Catholic church begins TO regulate about
| stealing, when the Catholic church begins to
regulate what man may take of another
! that then and there the Catholic church has
| put its hand down and is exercising its do
minion In the temporal affairs OF this coun-
In this thipprafii quotation from Manning let me say
that the scrupulously honest D. Ross has
Gnangeo wbv do ing man into strong
| er the change has any significance or not does
not matter. Here Manning is not speaking of
the church or Of church law. He is speaking
before the church, and which would exist if
the church should cease to be. He simply
| enunciates truth which is law for the pagan,
! the Mohamm edan, the Jew and the Christian,
namely, that when man is in extreme dan
ger he has right to preserve his life by TAX
Ing OF his neighbor's substances. Ii a man is
dying of starvation he is perfectly justified in
taking us much bread as will sustain his life,
and there is not jury in Christendom which
would hold him guilty.
Only the insanity OF bigotry would hold that
In making this statement which is not law
of the church but a law OF nature l am max
ing claim to dominion over temporal affairs.
| INDEPENDENCE OF THE CHURCH.
In his first lecture on the proposition, ain
case of conflict between ecclesiastical and civil
powers the ecclesiastical ought to prevail" DR..
Ross gave the following quotation and argu-
ment:
The Catholic church is the highest and final
God, and when science and politics come into con
tact with the faith and that law II admits OF nc
appeal from its own decision to any tribunal out OF
ITSELF to any Judge of appeal In the past or In the
future.
"when politics and the church come into
conflict it Is the duty of the church to remail
firm and to heed not the State laws that come
in conflict with It"
, Dr. Ross is very fond of this quotation. He
quotes it three times, and with his admirable
| and absolute honesty takes care to mutilate il
, | Thus, in the comment on it given above ht
renders "come into contact with the iaith" b.
'come into conflict" and in his last lecture h,
Wendteizes the quotation to suit his purpose
and to catch applause: "When science ant
politics come into conflict with that faith
7 However, this is only small matter. Ever
three months were not sufficient TO fnmiliaIiz'
. him with his tools. l find him in one pac.
Z ascribing quotation to Brownson and ut all
other place giving the same quotation as III,
words Of "Priest Jouin." But, then, Ross hae
infinite confidence in his judge.
MANNING's MEANING
Ross made use of this quotation to impress
| ,fv,r<c cr,f h nic \, Aa
, | Catholic Church was interfering IN politics
; and that when she said such course was th,
right course, the politicians had nothing 10 dt
but obey.
Yet, as q matter of fact, Manning expressly
: guards against that idea in the Very quotation
, manipulated by Ross. If Ross had even the
! faintest elements of decency in his composition
he would retire deep into mis- native Canadian
woods and mediate on the commandment
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
7 neighbor.
{ The quotation is taken from an address de
! | livered by Manning at Manchester in 1876
He Is dealing with the relations between re
touches on the relations between religion ant
politics. 1--WE are told also," he says. ';hat re
: figion has nothing to do with politics" Ther
2 he goes on with the same argument given BY
Brownson on the extract noticed yesterday
and with the same reasoning employed every
day by the Christia Endeavorers: 81 would
! ask What are politics but the collective morals
. of men living together in society? The moral
. laws which govern man as All individual gov
ern him if he be the member OF q community
, | be it the community OF a household or The
community of a state
Manning simply means that men in public
: life are bound by the laws of right ard wrong
lust as much as in private life. Moreover, he
takes care to explain that he is not speaking O
, politics in the sense in which the word Is useC
, | commonly, but In higher end more exalted
sense. He says: ~ am not speaking of pei
itics in that minute sense, but OF the great con
. structive laws by which human society is hele
together" -
/ Now dealing with the moral law, and will
the great principles which underlle society
Manning says that "the Catholic Church .ha:
8 | an all Important Office in these matters
. !. What is that office? .The church having
divine liberty 6s the witness which God ha.
constituted in the world to deliver his revela
: tion and being the sole fountain of tina
3 knowledge, has within its sphere a sovereignty
3 | and that sovereignty is one which is exemp
, | from all control of human authority"
This means that the church is the teacher o.
truth, . spiritual power and that as spiritua
power she is absolutely independent of thu
state This Is good and true American doc
trine and Manning makes his expression OF i
| doubiy accurate by the words "within it
sphere" The sphere of he church is thu
| spiritual, the sphere OF he state is the tenn
poral. The state is supreme III the tempora
| sphere; the church is supreme in the spiritual
sphere The church "has within its sphere
Sovereignty, and that sovereignty Is one which