New-York tribune., 1896-01-14


He has written several books, which have been
productive Of widespread comment. and in some
instances have had an influence in shaping
British foreign policies. His book, Real
Japan" has thrown more light upon the inner
workings Of that country than any other woIk
published. His book. The Peoples and Policy
Of the Far East" also caused a stir
Nh Norman is an Engishman with thor
ough knowledge of America. He was born IN
England, but gained his education AT Parvard
He has travelled all over this country. and there
are few countries in the world that he mas not
visited He has made bounda ries and dip
lomatc entanclements his study. and his knoWl-
edge of Americans has stood him in good stead
in this particular case When Mr.. Norman was
asked Yesterday about the report that Lord
Salisbury was trying. through a neutral Power
10 resume relations with the Venezuelan Gov
eminent proposing a joint commission to de-
limit the frontier he replied:
Il think that the report is likely We do
moi know what case the English Foreign Of
fee has They have never presented their case
They may have the best kind Of d case. and
again they may have poor one. The sup
position. far as l can learn. is that they
nave a poor one indeed. should say that the
attitude of the English people now is that they
rsalize that they have not such good case as
d
willing to do what they consider is fair The
iac; being established that Lord Aberdeen ad-
United that the Schomburgk line was invalid
brings the matter back 70 the dispute over
original claims and this takes US back seventy
Years The question involves the victor! "l
the English over the Dutch and the treaties
Of the Dutch with the Spanish. and SO on
think that is where II stands. and II Will be
worked out from that point We find even the
staid old London Times. the official organ OF
The Foreign Office. saying that The Schombursk
line is not such irreducible minimum.
That looks rs IL the question would be carried
away from this issue and arbitrated from ne
old treaties"
In reply t. a question to how President
CIcvelaud's message affected England, NJ. Nor
man said. "The language OF a diplomat is usu-
ally schooled and studied. II he wants To de-
clare war be hens and haws. and says that
he has the honor to be your humble servant
and to beg leave to say and so on. but every
one knows what that means. President Cleve-
land discarded all diplomatic phrases. and cut
loose with good. hard English. and common
sense. 1t amazed the English They read II
even a little further than he President in
tended Yet the feeling toward the United
States is of the kindliest. There is more hatred
for England in this country than there is for
Americans and America In supercous man
uer but there is a real and inherent love for
The country In England, and Englishmen are
proud of this country
IF ANY ONE ELSE HAD DONE 1T.
"If any other nation through its representa-
tive. had sent such d message an order for the
mobilization Of troops ana the assembIage or
vessels would have been out within an hour.
amazed and perplexed. Not for a moment did
they look upon it as campaign document oi
course. a Presidents action on any matter Of
moment is going to hurt or help him with the
people. find that the sentiment Of this country
: strongly behind the President. AS one man
aid TO me- the whole thing appears Ike TWO
,,ilIionai,.s ouarrelling over d dime lost in the
lOuse OF of them.
England and the United States are natural
lilies A message that would have set men 70
marching and sent fleets To sea. hdd IL come
from any other Power, only led To closer
.crutiny Of the subject on the part OF the ENG
ush reople and now that they find that they
are wrong al least in part. they are gong
>, ac, ra.sonablv Now note the contrast.
Emperor William sends message to the fresi-
dent Of a South African state openly nasiaht-
lv brutaIly ignoring the suzerainty when Eng
and exercises over that country Nhat Is IN
result? The kingdom is ahame from ehu 10 10
nd Salisbury notedly "A man OF peace may
Dc hauled off his feet by this popular u'uIon-
.iration William has stirred up the BRUSH
That could not be done by the tnted States
If do not know what will be the outcome i
Europe | would not like 10 say thai II wal
Is inevitable That is broad assertion, ana =
many things are to be taken into account ne
papers have tcemcd with accounts OF an ahian' '
between Germany and Russia against f-hbia"i
That is the veriest driveL There can be no sucn
alliance Emperor william. who has the brs'
sources Of information. has long seen that Poo'
ing Of interests between Russia and Englahh wa
Inevitable You see that coming out now lh'
napers say that Russia has veered around ana
instead of supporting Germany In this hght. i