New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1896-03-13


we're still six Republicans absent They were
Messrs Anderson. Austin, J. Clark. Dudley. Mac
key and Sweet. =,
A. II O'Clock Mr. O'Grady moved to suspend all
PROCEEDINGS under the call. and gave notice thd'
he would from time TO time renew the call 1t
was extremely necessary. he said. that all the regis
la:ors remain in their seats during the day, as I'M
portant legislation was TO be transacted
Mr. Cutler asked that the names OF the absentees
be called 10 ascertain who were responsible ior
.he delay In the legislation. AS absentees. the
names or Messrs. Austin. Dudley. Cain. Guoer'
Malone and Mittnacht were read. all others. eN-
cept those excused, having answered to tho call.
many having been apprehended. One hundred and
one Republicans we're present, and the success OF
the Raines bill foreshadowed.
The O'Grady motion 10 suspend all proceedings
under the call was carried. and the majority
leader moved to suspend the rules. for which he
had given notice yesterday. In order that the
Raines bill could be passed to-day
Mr. Finn objected to the suspension, and caied
for the yeas and nays
THE VOTE ON SUSPENSION.
The rules were suspended by a vote OF S to So 1t
being predicted by some of the Republicans that
this vote would be the on the final passage
Of the bill The vote follows;
Yeas-Ablett. Adler; Ands, Anderson II. T An
Ils:e {. j. Clark. J. Clark c; 6. Cole n Cole
Eidrdse, GoodseIi. GoTham. Graves, Gregory
Hobbs Rsev H9 Rtpn
K osaSs Loans SS WI Macksy Marshal
MoGraw MeSapghton Mss sss Niles pc Mor
Rogers. Rounds. A. d. Sanders F. r. Saunders
pr sSam sses
nsr. Weed. Wells, Whine, witter' Zimmerman and
ANDREWS EaScoeh Barry oI Bs5h.
C,'la navi De DelmOur j.. a.
nelly sl,S' T + poqnsily. ESSes, E%Ss% EDasrs.
e e5b rssS Gufe Hart SF'
man. Kelly. Kempner, Kinney, Laimbeer, tenn9n
G9s5S Ln e. Me!dS + Mysrs
Norton, Peeyers, Rudd, schmid, schuum. Spring
weller. Stahl Stanchiie,d, steiner Iraihor' "as-
staff A. c. Wilson and Zurn-59
There were fourteen Republicans who voted with
the Democrats against suspending the rules Ihey
were: Babcock OF Chautauqua; Blasdeh. HA'
Sprlngweler Steiner and Peevers. of Erie; Bren-
man, Forester Livingston. De Graw ana Waes'ah.
of Kings: French, Laimbeer and A c. Wilson, OF
New-York.
EXCISE COMMITTEE DISCHARGED.
Mr. O,Gradv moved that the Excise Committee be
discharged from the further consideration OF the
Raines BILL and that the bill be placed upon the oruer
OF third reading Objection was raised ny -i''
Stanchfeld He raised the constitutional question
that the bill had not been upon the desks OF tne
r,enbers for three calendar legislative days IN us
o., 60, Mr. S,anchfeld was he said. perfectly
n.ar aware how the Chair would hold but he wished
a ruling. =, Elm.
The Chair asked the clerk as TO the length oi 'iie
the hill had been upon the desks, ana the c'eh 'e
r,ied that il had been the required cohs"'u''''
time ,,, ,,s no
- "a The clerk read ii for the second time. the
sneaker declaring that the Excise Committee was
discharged from the consideration OF the Dill
Mr. Kempner obtaining recognition from the
Chair. requested the privilege OF preseh'iis III
,ori,v ranort from the Excise Committee
~ move the point of order that the hNcise YIN
roi,,ea has been discharged on the order OF Inc
House. and that no minority report can now De ac
cap,ed" said Mr.. OGrady.
sneaker Fish sustained Mr. O'Grady The speaker
stated that the committee mad been dSe"ai Eu' am
TIA, il had been repeatedly held by other Speakers
that a report upon bill would not be accepted
after discharge An appeal from the decision OF the
Chair was made by Mr.. StanchieId' pul Tie IMAM
was sustained by vote OF 50 10 a.
Nil Ke,npner arose 10 a question OF personal PRIV
liz &C. The bill had now been sent OUT OF 'he COM
mi,,ee without his being asked his opinion upon the
bill HIS constitutional rights had been tramped
rpoa a point OF order was made py MI. o"rao!
that Mr. Kempner was not speaking on an! ii"''ei
before the House, nor 70 question OF Peiso"di
privilege A question Of personal privilege did not
relate 10 ANYTHING not personal. The point was de-
ciied as we'll taken. ana the Chair informed MI
Kempner that he could refer to any personal matter
In his argument upon the bill.
MIR. KEMPNER'S ARGUMENT.
Mr. Kempner then spoke against the bill i'll part
as follows:
The Importance attached to The Raines bill is not
suit OF most remarkable attempt to revouto ION
purely mrasure for raising revenue. The bill rs
queer legislative maKesniTt that violates tuhld-
ru gn' tbat the historical basis aiSn which
existing excise statutes were developed. ana
tltpA1x- al
Nghtened States ana countries as well as in our
As ee as o are Is seneray
nized, and the wonder Is that measure so aDsT.
lutey unsupported ana undesired by the people
should be pressed upon this Legislature for serious
consideration. 80 49,
dragged through the Legislature with the aid OF
King Caucus s that it is expected to perpetuaie the
Tor years to come They saw'the far-reachng pos
sbiities for political plumber and patronage IN the
Under the mask of excise reform. and taking adj
vantage OF temperance and religious prejudices they
knew that they would have plausible pretext FOR
the establishment Of State whiskey shop. ,, TIA,
having II would enable their commissioners, depu-
ties attorneys special agents and spies to whip the
and from Rouse's Point TO Staten Island, They
could take the liquor interest" in the cities by the
throat and keep themselves more solid than ever IN
the granger towns Above all. it would surely par.
alyze the Democracy for a generation to come al
No one can claim that this bill covers the drink
abuses of intemperance. There are two Fundamental
theories sought TO be put In practice by this
bill. which the experience Of every enlightened ma
ton has proved to be grievous fallacies They are
high license and local option or indirect prohbition
The avowed purpose Of high license and Of local OPP
ton or indirect prohibition Is 10 lessen the sale OF
LIQUORS and limit the evils Of intemperance. The
actual effect is dramatically the reverse Of thai
which Is sought to be accomplished.
The bill Is bad in the princlpe where 1t takes tht
money OF the localities for State purposes. the only
offered being that the State has assumed thu
care all OF the OF the fatal objections
TO this measure is its invasion Of the recognized
right Of local self.government II the State thinks
II can administer local affairs more advanageously
than the respective local authorities, what further
need for the delegation Of political power to coun
ties, towns cities, villages wards and school dis
tricts? 1t is plain that when the State once Begin
10 usurp any of the duties that have been delegate
by ancient custom to local bodies polite 1t viii b.
hard to draw the line anywhere. and the tendency
well as the ultimate logical effect OF such polio,
Will be tie gradual .pascuation and elimination o
,.,in al nit 10 !.