Evening star., 1896-03-17
They Are Brought Into the Senate
Debate on Cuba.
TEE STARS CORRESPONDENT DEFENDED
Senators Believe the Cubans Have
an Established Government.
SHARP CoLLoQ QUE

The Cuban matter came up Unexpectedly
| in the Senate yesterday afternoon. just be-
fore adjournment, and caused some very
lively debate for about an hour. Senator
Pugh, who had been talking on the silver
question, became SO fatigued that he could
not proceed, and SO the decks were cleared
for action on the more interesting topic of
the conference report on the Cuban resolu-
tions. Senator Morgan took the floor and
spoke for some time on the subject of Senor
de Lome's official statement furnished to
the State Department, which was referred
to the other day in the debate. 1t appeared
that the Senator. since that occasion, had
written to Secretary Olney for permission
to use the document in his speech, and had
received reply that it would be necessary
to obtain the permission from the Spanish
minister. Subsequently. Mr.. Olney wrote
to Senator Morgan that Senor de LONE had
given his consent. and SO the document was
laid before the Senate yesterday, not at
formal length, but in sections, with Mr.
Morgans caustic comments sandwiched in
between.
remarks, and the debate became very en-
tertaining. incidentally the accuracy of
The stars correspondence from Cuba was
brought into question. and Mr.. Morgan
forced Mr.. Hale to admit that Capt. Man
nix. the correspondent whose letters to this
paper caused his expulsion from the island,
mad found that the Cubans had an estab-
lished seat of government
The Cuban Capital.
This matter came into the controversy as
result Of the opening sentences of Senor
de Lome's letter to the Secretary of State.
They were quoted from telegram received
by him from Gen. Campos, in which the
latter said: 1.-The so-called insurgent gov
ernment has no fixed residence. They came
to the Villas and have returned to Cana
guey. One hardly knows where they wander
about as soon as column of the army goes
In their persecution. They do not live nor
reside in any inhabited place, and do not
exercise any act of civil government"
MI. Morgan here fnterjected the remark
that the government Of the confederacy
in the revolutionary war had nine diff
ferent places of habitaton, escaping from
the British in one quarter to find protection
In another. Mr.. Sherman suggested that
the Continental Congress moved back and
forth from place to place.
Mannix's DiscIoxures
1.-THE British government could not chase
the Congress and the executive forces of
the continental government down sufficient
ly to capture them" Mr.. Morgan went on.
Where was eur government when the
Capitol was set afire and burned to the
ground by the British who came across the
Atlantic ocean? A fugitive in Virginia.
What was its local habitation then? Does
this gentleman expect to make point upon
the people of Cuba because they are COM
PEELED In the eXigency of their situation to
change their government from place to
place! Yet the truth is as is shown by re-
ports made and published in The Evening
Star from Capt Mann.x, who visited the
place on two occasions, that there has been
from the outbreak of the revolution per-
manent capital in Cuba, at Cubtas, on the
top of the mountains at the eastern end Of
the island. 1t has never been changed, it
has never been attacked, and it has never
been approached by the Spaniards. 1t is
the place from which Justice is administer
ed and the civil law is executed in Its pro-
lection of the rights of property, life and
liberty"
Mr.. Hale an Unbeliever.
HAS the Senator read that most inter-
esting account of the peregrination and
wanderings of the correspondent of The
Evening Star in trying to find this nebu-
lous capital. in which he entirely failed?
asked Mr.. Hale.
Captain Mannix?" queried Senator Nor
Yes, that is the name" responded Mr..
Hale. Does the Senator believe that there
exists at the place which he has named
anything that is in the form of a repre-
sentative government?'
L do" promptly responded Mr.. Nor
gar.
Does he believe that at this place. Mr..
Hale went on, lat this small village which
barely found, there exists any such legis-
lative body, any such judicial tribunal, any
such head of the army and navy as exist
ed at Montgomery, and afterward at Rich
mond, in the confederacy, or existed all
through the war of the revolution against
Great Britain? Does the Senator believe
that any such condition exists in Cuba
today, or has existed for the last year?'
A Sharp Tilt.
Il had supposed" said Mr.. Morgan, tiring
of this evasive questioning, that 1 had
the floor for the purpose Of explaining this
paper and making some remarks upon it.
But find am here only for the purpose
at kindergarten"
ut is not my fault answered Mr. Hale,
IF the Senator appears like a school child
who ought to be questioned"
mo-" said Mr.. Morgan, II will come at
the Senator about that and put him on his
answer to questions. When he got up here
ne asked me If had read an article pub
lished in The Evening Star in which its
correspondent had wandered all through
Cuba and had failed to find the capital"
or barely found It," corrected Mr.. Hale.
mo. SIR. retorted Mr.. Morgan. I'm the
first question the Senator put to me he
said Captain Mannix had failed to find it.
Then, when he found that Captain Mannfx,
whose story he read just as well as have
did find 1t, and not only found it. but af-
terward returned to it and was treated
with great hospitality aid kindness while
he was there, and had to march for miles
on foot, meeting with many guards, in or
der to get there-when he found that he
says perhaps Captain Mannix found 1T,
and If he did it was some miserable little
village or place. one. perhaps, that a de-
cent government had not any right to be
att
Mr.. Chandler Sustains Mnnnfx.
Then followed a sharp colloquy between
the Senators as to MIR. Hale's right TO in
terrupt, and Mr. Chandler interposed to
say: mot only is the statement. of the
Senator from Alabama correct, but it is to
be borne in mind that Captain Mannix de-
scribed fully, when he went to Cubitas,
exactly how he went, what train he took;
that he went to Matanzas. He describes
the whole physical conformation of the
country after he reached the interior vii
lage where is the capital. He describes
his return from 1t, and he afterward de-
scribed another visit which he made
there"
Yes: a second visit" said Mr.. Morgan.
"And that the Spanish government" con-
tinued Mr.. Chandler, with that informa-
ton In their hands, have not taken the
capital and never have dared to take the
capital Is very good evidence that the in
surgents. whether or not they need to have
capital to entitle them to recognition as