The Indianapolis journal., 1896-04-26
THE AFTERNOON SESSION.
Judge Helm Continues Walling's Case
for Another Week.


greater portion of next week. and possibly
the week following.
Joseph Kugel was called. Colonel Nelson
examined him.
where do you liver"
Ninth and Central avenue, Cincinnati"
do you keep saloon?''
Yes, SIR"
do you know Jackson and Walhng%
Yes, sir.''
Where did you first meet them?"
"At my saloon.'
Point out jackson"
Witness pointed out Jackson.
How well do you know Scott Jackson and
Alonzo Walling?'
Pretty we'll; they came to my saloon very
often"
when was the last time you saw Jackson
at your saloon?'
THE Monday before he got arrested"
THAT is?'
THE Monday after the finding of the
body of a woman at Fort Thomas"
did he come into your saloon then?"
Yes; he came in my saloon and took a
glass of beer and asked me to keep satch-
el for him. and to put it away and not give
it to any one.''
WAS it ever opened?'
mo, sir"
How long did you keep the satchel?"
From Monday until Thursday, when
took the satchel to Chief Deitsch."
why did you do that?"
Il had read about the arrest of Jackson.
and thought it best
do you know Fred Albion?"
only slightly"
did either Jackson or Walling come to
yes. sir One night Jackson left word
IL o'clock"
"D.d Jackson come back at II o'clock that
night?"
When was this?'
II don't remember the day. but it was
during the week of the murder"
Defense did not question the witness and
he was excused, after identifying the bloody
valse as the one Jackson left at the saloon
Detective Herman j. Witte next stood in
the witness box and was sworn. He S said: ID :.
at Richmond and John streets. 1t was about
Feb. l."
as wet and shiny. There were blood stains,
apparently, on the coat when 1t was taken
out of the sewer, but the detective thought
''Did you examine the coat when it was
pulled out Of the sewer?'
Yes, SIR
Yes. sir. in the side pocket found some
leaves that looked TO me like just such
leaf as were on the bushes where the body
was found"
"A spot of blood
Have you the leaf?"
NO. it was lost at police headquarters.
AT the suggestion of e juryman detective
Witte drew on piece of paper the shape of
the leaf found in the coat pocket The
shape was that of privet leaf.
A juryman asked the witness the date on
the newspaper in which the coat was
wrapped and Witte said 1t was the Sunday
after the murder. Witness was then ex-
cused.
MUDDY TROUSERS IDENTIFIED.
| Louis Renkert, lieutenant of the Cincin-
natl police, was then called and questioned
by Colonel Nelson. He Identified the muddy
| pants in court as the ones he got from the
dental college.
Where did you get them?''
From locker No. 122'
Whose locker was it?"
''wen. 1 had got hold of the wrong
key, and Walling said to me that's not
| Jackson's key. but his (Walling's) key would
| open the locker"
What did jackson say them"
Nothing
When you opened .wallings locker what
Took them to Colonel Deitschs Office
did Jackson say then that the pants We're
his
seen them for some time, and had not worn
them.
1 else
with the charge ag linst jackson. and Wall
ingy'
Il was present at the beginning of the
mornins after the arrest OF Jackson ana
| Walling."
Objection by defense overruled to any
question what Jackson or Walling said at
| that time.
Lieutenant Renkert said that Jackson re-
quested on the morning after his arrest to
/ be taken before Colonel Deitsch to make a
4 statement and that the witness conducted
him to the superintendent's room. where
Jackson made a statement. Colonel Deitsch
| taking down his statement in writing.
Did you hear what he Uackson) said%'
Part OF what he said"
| when did Jackson tell Col. Deitsch he
saw Pearl Bryan last?"
Defense objected and the objection was
sustained by Judge Helm.
Colonel Nelson argued on the question
| decision. claiming that simply because the
witness had not heard all the statement he
| should not tell what he did hear.
7..I jntend to prove by the Witness
"I object to him stating what he intends to
by the witness IA the OF the
Then the jury can retire." answered
| Colonel Nelson.
The jury then retired, and Colonel Nelson
! said: Il intended TO prove by the witness
| that Scott Jackson stated that he had not
seen Pearl Bryan since the Christmas holi-
DAYS which n nv was ls coI9nei 0o
| Nelson said he was going ID prove, and
| Lieutenant Renkert left the room. Colonel
| Nelson then continued: II tell you this is
| one OF the circumstances that the jury must
| hear and consider, that this man Jackson
| told this unrruth: said he hadn't seen Pearl
Bryan since the Christmas holidays. when be
| did"
The appeal was grandly made, but Judge
| Helm stood firm and would not change his
| decision. He sustained the objection. The
| jury and witness then returned TO the court
| room.
Renkert then identified the bloody valise
| in court as the one shown to Jackson in
| Chief Deitsch's Office. Defense here took the
! witness.
ION the morning that you went down to
| Jackson's cell did you say that all was up
| with him. and that he had better tell all he
knew damn quick?' asked Colonel Craw-
ford.
NO, sir: didn't" answered the witness.
Didn't you tell him Uackson) when you
1 were about to go to the chiefs Office to tell
everything to the old man?'
mo. sr,"
| Witness was excused
Ex-Police Sergeant Aloysius Stenger. OF
Cincinnati. now saloonkeeper, was then
called by the prosecution. He was questioned
| by Colonel Nelson.
DO you know Scott Jackson?'
DO you know WaEing and Fred Alb!on?''
"Oniy as a patron of the saloon"
Ever see Jackson and Walling together
| In your saloonr'
"Yes: they always came together"