Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1896-11-17
wo daughters entered the courtroom,
and seats were provided for them.
DEATH CAUSED BY BLEEDIN

wo daughters entered the courtroom,
and seats were provided for them
DEATH CAUSED BY BLEEDING.
Coroner Taylor then stated that the
death was caused by bleeding from :he
three wounds IN the left side. The de-
ceased was apparently about 20 years
Of age. but looked older than he really
was He. was very finely built. and was
feet inches I'm height.
Being cross-examined by Mr.. Folkes,
the witness said that he could not tell
as to the weight Of the young man.
WAS he az large as 7 ann" asked Mr..
Folkes.
well 7 think he was larger"
"Was he as large as Mr.. smith,
81 really can't tell I am not blessed
with the gift Of telling about the weight
OF people. When II comes to measure
ment. | can get down my tape-line and
measure them"
well Doctor. you say he was not quite
as large as Mr.. Smith. and very much
larger than / am--did he weigh as much
as 175 pounds?"
II can't say about that saw the
young man dead | have never had the
pleasure Of seeing you and Mr.. Smith in
that condition" daughter throughout
the courtroom, and shouts of order from
the deputies)
Counsel for the defence had no more
questions TO ask Or. Taylor.
WITNESSED THE TRAGEDY.
The next witness was Mr. c. A. Brooks.
about is years Of age. who was an eye
witness 10 the tragedy. lie said that on
the evening Of the murder. while passing
down Broad street al the corner OF Firth
he saw a scufile between WINNER and
Thalhimer and saw the former strike
young Thalhimer six or seven times. lie
did not see anything I'm Winners hand
until Thalhimer broke away from VIM
mer and started TO run towards witness.
He then saw that Thalhimer's vest was
cut. and witness turned and saw a knife
I'm winners hand. WINNER was looking
i'm that direction. Thalhimer ran very
near a square and half. turning the
corner Of Fifth and ran a short distance
beyond the corner Of Fifth and Marshall
streets. then staggered back about 80 feet
and fell on his face JUST In front OF
Shields drugstore Il did not go up then
TO see young Thalhimer," continued young
Brooks. but | called TO some men in
the drugstore and went on TO see po-
liceman. Thalhimer ran towards his
home which was at No. 404 east Clay
street"
Mr.. Smith then cross-eNamined the wit
ness for the defence. and in reply TO his
questions young bTOohS Sdhu AHdN h'
could not say positively that Thalhimer
had 10 pull away from Mr.. WINNER. lie
guessed il was partly both. After Thai
hmer started to run WINNER walked TO
the edge Of the curbing and stood there
II did not see him when he was ar
rested" concluded the young witness.
CHASING AND sTABBING HIM.
Edinboro' Archer. Jr., "A colored youth,
a.
and he said he was standing ia the lower
front door OF Gilpin's store on the after
noon of the tragedy. His attention was
first called to the difficulty by hearing a
man crying and seeing another man
chasing him. The man who was chasing
him was Mr.. WINNER said the witness,
as he identified the prisoner at the bar
THE cries | heard as | can remember,
We're: 'Lordy help What's the natter
Mr.. WINNER chased the young man about
as far as from here to that door about
u feeO. I saw Mr.. WINNER strike him
more than once. / could not swear that
Mr.. WINNER had hold Of the young man,
but he was chasing him and striking him
all the time. The hoy came pretty near
falling in Carter's window. and then /
collapsed. Haughter) did not see the
young man strike Mr.. WINNER"
Upon cross-examinatiOn by Mr.. Smith,
Archer said he could not swear whether
WINNER had hold OF young Thalhimer or
not but he was right close TO him and
was sticking him all the time.
What time was this?" asked Mr..
Folkes.
1T was between and o'clock.
"Didn't you testify Ae.Orc DE Coroner
jury that this trouble occurred at O.
oclock?" inquired Mr.. Folkes.
'Well. ain't o'clock between and 7%'
laconically answered the witness. to the
amusement of the court spectators.
After answering some other unimport
ant questions. Archer stood aside, and
Alexander Lewis. another negro boy. who
was standing in Gilpin's shoe-store on
the evening Of the killing, was placed on
the stand. Lewis said he saw the older
man sticking Thalhimer with knife He
heard an exclamation from young Thai
himer. who cried: "Lordy, help What's
the matterY
on cross-examination Lewis contra
dicted the testimony of the boy Archer,
in which the latter said that WINNER
had chased Thalhimer. Lewis declared
that WINNER had not done this. but had
apparently held him and struck him
several times-the witness could not tel
how many.
MISS WINNER ON THE STAND.
This closed the evidence for the. prose-
cution, and the first witness called by
the prisoners counsel was Ida May
WINNER. the 9-year-od daughter Of the
accused. Miss WINNER lmped quite
perceptibly as she approached the stand.
The eyes of every one in the court
chamber were upon her She wore long
brown cape black skirt and "A black,
sailor hat. Her large and pretty blue
eyes and the flush upon her cheeks
4 I'LL
than human object Mr.. Smith con-
Quoted in the main her direct examina-
tion. She, in feeble tones, told the jury
her name and age. and spoke OF her
lameness She said she did not work
because she was parayzed in her right
side. She explained 10 the court the
nature of her injury Miss Ida rehearsed
her story in reference to young Thai |
himers visits 10 her house, saying |
that when she first saw him he was
riding by her home. She was standing
in the door, and he tipped his hat to
her. II did not notice him, because l
did not know him The second time
was about two weeks iater, when he
came up and asked me had | lived there
long. He then got on the car and went
away. The third time he came | invited |
him I'm. and entertained him for some
time with my mother. The fourth time
he came no one was AT home, and then
was when he wronged me against my
Will"
ROSS-EXAMINED.
Miss WINNER was respectfully, but
closely. cross-examined by Common
wealth's-Attorney Richardson. In reply
10 his questions, she said: II first saw
Mr.. Thalhimer last November, as he
passed by my house. The second time |
/ saw him was a couple of weeks later |
when he came up 10 the gate where
,ras standing Nv mother was there