The San Francisco call., 1896-02-14
After Considerable Argument It
Is Put to a Vote and
Defeated.
HEALY ADMITS DIsLoYALTY.
Ready to Attack and Thwart the
Policy of Those Who Refuse
Ireland Justice.

LONDON, ENG, Feb. 13.-ln the House
OF Commons to-day the Right Hon.
Joseph Cham berlain, Secretary of State
for the Colonies, said in reply to a ques-
ton that only three of the Uittlanders ar
rested in Johannesburg were now in Jail
at Pretoria, and it was his belief that if any
of them should fall i'll they would be re-
leased as was John Hays Hammond, the
American. In view of the fact, however,
that the inquiry into the cases of the men
arrested has been adjourned without GATE
he was considering whether it would not
be proper to suggest to the Transvaal Gov
ernment THAT they be released on bail.
George n. Curzon, Parliamentary Secre-
tsry for Foreign Affairs, made a state
ment in regard to the small island of Trim
idad, occupation of which is now a SUBJ
iect of dispute between Great Britain and
Brazil. 1t was occupied by Great Britain,
he said, in 1871 and evacuated the follow
ing year. Subsequently Great Britain re-
occupied the island after communications
on the subject had passed between
England and Portugal. The Government,
Mr. Curzon said, had proposed to submit
the dispute with Brazil over the occupa-
ton of the island to arbitration.
Mr.. Curzon, continuing, said that the
island of Trinidad had not been ceded to
Brazil when it was abandoned by Great
Britain, but to Portugal. Brazil had not
at that time an independent existence.
The reoccupation of the island by Eng
land was not based upon the ground of
her previous occupation, but because hav-
ing been abandoned for a century the
island belonged to nobody.
The debate on the address in reply to
the speech from the throne was resumed,
the subject being the amendment offered
by John Dillon declaring that balance of
bill providing for the self-government of
Ireland had aroused discomfort among the
Irish and increased the difficulties exist
ing in foreign affairs.
Sir William Harcourt. leader of the op-
position, said it was the belief of the oppo-
sition that the discomfort prevailing in
Ireland would not be extinguished until
the demands of the Irish for local self
government were satisfied. They would
never cure the dormant disorders of many
centuries unless they went to the root of
the evil. The Government had said that
it would never grant home rule "Never"
was word which, in the liberal inter-
pretation, was unwise, especially In the
mouth of an occupant of the office of
Chief Secretary for Ireland, and he would
advise the Chief Secretary to modify the
expression to Hardly ever"
The future of home rule, he said, de-
pended much upon the course pursued by
Irish members. Home rule certainly did
not get a great deal of encouragement
from John Redmond, whose policy, Sir
William said, appeared to be to attBck
home-rulers wherever he found them,
[Cries of Hear! hearp'7
Sir William, con tinuing, said that moth
ing had occurred to alter the home-rule
policy of the opposition, and they con-
tinued to adhere to it as he repeatedly de-
clared. Cheers.
A. ]. Baifour said he believed that when
the Irish at home and abroad realized
that Parliament was sincerely and
earnestly desirous of giving to Ireland
full and generous measure of Justice, a
change of opinion would occur, removing
at once and for all time the dissensions
between the nations.
Mr.. Healy admitted his disIoyalty to
England. He had been sent to this Par
Lament to secure the establishment of a
native Irish Parliament, and his endeavor,
therefore, would be to harass, attack and
thwart in every way the policy of those
who refused to grant Ireland home rule.
Mr.. Dillon's amendment was rejected by
vote of 276 to 160.
Henry Labouchere, the well-known
radical, moved an amendment to the ad-
dress declaring the Jameson inquiry ought
to include the financial and political ac-
tions of the British South African Com
pany.
The Right bon. Joseph Chamberlain,
Secretary of State for the Colonies, said
that he having carefully examined into
the facts connected with the raid into the
.Transvaal believed that Cecil Rhodes, the
directors of the British South African
Company. the Reform Committee at
Johannesburg and Sir Hercules Robinson.
Governor of Cape Colony. were all equally
ignorant of the action of DR.. Jameson.
Mr.. Chamberlain protested against pre-
judicing the case. The Transvaal Govern
ment, he added. was responsible for acts it
would be difficult to justify. President
Kruger, in showing moderation now, only
followed the example of Great Britain on
previous occasions.
Mr. Cham berlain further said that the
inquiry would include the objects of the
proposed amendment. Nobody knew
what the outcome would be of the trial of
DR.. Jameson or the trial of the prisoners
at Pretoria. The Government had an
mind regarding the inquiry. He had
nothing to do with Mr.. Rhodes return to
Africa.
Mr.. Rhodes had told him that he was
going back with the sole object of devel-
oping Rhodesia. 1t would be- an act of in
gratitude now when suspicion hung over
him to forget the services he had done and
might do the country.
Mr. Chamberlain announced that Presi-
dent Kruger complained about the pub
lication of the dispatch sent by him (Mr.
Chamberlain) to Sir Hercules Robinson
reviewing the causes that led to DR..
Jameson's raid into the Transvaal, enum-
Grating the grievances OF the Uitlanders
and suggesting scheme OF reforms. in
cluding the granting of limited autonomy
to the inhabitants of the Rand.
This dispatch also contained an invita-