The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1896-02-15
Kate Fields Interview With
Thurston.
SUNDRY VIEWS EXPRESSED
Minister Hatch Declines to Talk.
Landis Says He Has Proof-OtherS
support Mr.. Thurston-Mr. Jobs
Opinion of Secretary Gresham.

CHICAGO, Jan. ok. M. La ndis,
private secretary to Mr.. Gresham
State Department., was not in the city
yesterday and will not be here for
several days. Mr.. lands was the
intimate of Secretary Gresham, and
had full knowledge of all the actions
of the State Department in regard to
Hawaii during the period when Mr.
Thurston represented that country at
Washington. He was present at
nearly all, if not all, the interviews
that took place between Thurston and
friend of Mr.. lands said last evening:
"For every transaction diplomatic
ally that was had between Mr.. Thurs
ton and Secretary Gresham there is a
living witness. For illustration, Mr..
Lands will certainly say that before
the letter dictated by Secretary
Gres ham to the Dole Government
was forwarded to Honolulu Minister
Thurston was called to the State De
partment at Washington and the
draft of the letter shown to him. He
read this letter, knew its contents in
adv4n of his own Government, and
there is ample evidence to be bad
from the lips of living men that he
did read,it. This is direct refutatiOn
of his statement in tOday's Times
Herald that although Mr. Gresham's
letter requesting my recall was dated
February 21st, no suggestion thereof
was made to me, and / remained in
ignorance thereof until informed on
March 10Th by newspaper represent
ative that he had obtained the infOr-
nation from an official of the State
Department
dIIorrin A. Thurston did see that
letter before it left the hands of Secre-
tary Gresham, and this can and will
be proved. The attack which he has
now made was not unexpected by the
friends of Secretary Gresham. Official
records, and both officials and ex
officials of the State Department, are
in position to show that not alone in
this particular instance, but in all
others, re has given a distorted aud
discredible statement to the Ameri-
can people. Mr.. Lands himself was
present when the letter was presented
to Mr.. ThurstOn for his perusal, and
that was before any newspaper or the
Dole Government knew of its exist
ence."
Otto Gresham, son of the dead secre-
tary, would not discuss the TburstOn
letter yesterday from any point of
view.
Mrs. Carter, widow of Chas. Garter,
IY,I.r fes
now in Ann Arbor. She will arrive
in Chicago in short time. Her home
will be at the Auditorium. She is to
take a course in music here.
Consul Jobs Comments.
Fred w. Job, Consul for Hawaii in
Chicago has known for long time
that eX-Minister Thurston left the
United States and returned to Homo
lulu with bitter feelings towards the
present Administration. In fact, Mr..
Thurston, when en- route for his home
and in Chicago, told Mr.. Job more than
even The Times Herald presented yes
terday morning. At the same time he
refused to see reporters and relate to
them his specific grievances against
the late Secretary Gresham and Presi
dent Cleveland.
Mr. Job was averse yesterday to
speaking of the charges made by Mr..
Thurston against Gresham, since he
had enjoyed the confidence of the for
mer and the friendship of the latter.
He did say, however:
"I cannot speak of these charges as
a diplomat, for it would be manifestly
unfair to the Government which I
represent that / should pass any Opin-
ion, favorable or adverse, upon the
statements of citizen of that Govern
ment who had formerly been accred-
tied representative of this Govern
ment. What 1 say can only be as an
individual.
81 know Mr.. Thurston we'll. have
always admired his sincerity of char
acter and ability. am sure that he
would not make charges as he has
unless he is fully able to sustain them.
At the same time enjoyed the friend.
ship of Secretary Gresham and loved
his character. He was the most
democratic of men. When 1 first
called on him at Washington, at his
official post, even the colored man at
the door told me it was not necessary
for me to send in card. I entered to
find the secretary with his feet up and
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