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The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
No Blame for Officer Green.

Mortie Wharton. the young. negro VINO
was shot Tuesday by Officer a; :; Green
of Henrico. was IN a very critlcal condi-
ton last night and the physicians at me
almshouse thought that his chaices ior
recovery were rather unfayoraDIe' MI
Green gave himself up TO squire Lewis,
Of Henrico. and was released on nv, ms own
rccogniZancc. The case was calieu yes
terday morning al Uenrico. and the case
was continued until November Nn 10
await the result of the WOUNDS Oh hai
ton. =, ~,
No blame is attached 10 the oiIicer. iie
had been notified to look out Tor escapeu l
convicts, and 1t had been stated ,liat wv
Of them Rad been seen in that neighbor-
hood. When Policeman Green saw me me
negro acting suspiciously ne oIuersu ' ne
negro to halt. and when Mna ILL.,, ir'i the
was completely hidden from view pS ens
thick bushes. Mr. Green coulu o"t2 -
him. and fred 10 scare the negro. ~ ~, ~,
very much surprised when ne iolna tn ne
Wharton had been badly w you stoo and and
he asked him why he did not seop "nu
make himself known. Then the negro eA-
planned why no ran.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Editor OF The Times:
Sir.-lt has been suggested to me that
my remarks in a recent political speech
TO the effect that many OF the banks
and financial institutions do not hesitate
to donate their money 10 the election Of
Mckinley" was intended TO apply TO the
banks OF our city.
Nothing was further from my mind.
When | made the remark | had In view
the reported assessment IN the interest Of
Mckinley election OF $1,000 each upon
the nine banks OF the city OF Newark,
and the published report That the banks
OF the State of Connecticut had been
assessed In the same interest TO the
amount of hundreds OF thousands OF dol
lars, under The management Of ex-Goy-
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
Fearful Accident.

STEVENSVILLE. VA, oct. G.-Spe-
c.al.-Mr. Latane Lewis. son of Or. War
ner LoAIs, of Essex. was riding IN his
fathers field, driving up some cattle. on
last Friday afternoon, when his horse
either fell with him or three him, as
tic animal returned home riderless. .ae
family Immediately went in search 4
tie young man, ana found him on the
gryurd insensible and very bloody NJ
ing vomited blood and also bled from the
nose. lie has passed from the insensi-
Bile stupor, and IS now wild with de-
lirium.
The sad intelligence OF the death OF
Mrs. Lucy Beale Bussey. OF Georgia. nee
Halle. was received last week. She was
th. daughter of the late Mr.. John Halle
and Mary Semple, OF Essex county. Va.
She leaves an infant son. week old.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
,,y,yroRrNnws ro-NIGHT.
President ingalls, Goes Ihither !" A"'''SN
, .nund Money Mcrtlne.

"
~ NJ = INGALLS, one Of the leaders
IN the sound-Money movement has been
IN the city for two days on his way TO
Ncwport News. where hc speaks 10
night Mr.. ingalls, is an ardent sound
Nancy man. and il is conceded by an
even the opponents Of sound money, that
his snoeches on that subject have done
great good.
When seen 10y a Times representative
Yesterday. Mr. ingalls, expressed great
confidence In the general result. lie was
as sure as any man could be that sound
money would win throughout the coun-
trv generally. and thought that several
Of the congressional districts IN WI
oinia would be on the side OF sound
monev. and that the State Itself would
go for Mckinley.
in that event" said Mr. ingalls,. bust
ness would undoubtedly pick up. our
road would require morer olling stock,
and. because we do feel sure of sound
money victory. we have ordered num-
Der of locomotives and coaches, condl-
tionally, however that II. by any means
I'm the wor. I. Bryan should be elected,
with a free-silver Congress, that order
shall be revoked"
Mr.. ingalls, reiterated what he has
already said scores OF times-that any
one employed by the company which he
represents who shall be detected in the
attempt TO coerce any one into voting
against his personal wishes shall be
dealt with in a summary manner.
The railroad business shows signs OF
Improvement" said Mr.. ingalls,. DE
cause OF the general feeling that is
creeping over the country that free
sil.er will be- Overwhelmingly defeated.
But whenever the report goes around
that Bryan stock IS going up. down
goes business stock"
1t is understood that a sDecial train
will lie run TO accommodate all those who
desire to go TO Newport News 10 hear
Mr. Ingalls, speak tonight.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
ResnecffullN Referred 20 ". ]. Br,nn.

Editor of The Times.
Sir.-Would you kindly give me little
information on the following subject.
II VIM. J. Bryan should De elected
President OF the United States and tho
Government undertakes 10 convert silver
bullion into silver dollars for the mine
owners free of cost, would they not con-
vert a lot of copper which now own into
copper cents for me2
will do better than tho mine owners
I will give the Government l6 10 l. that
is l6 pounds OF copper for 1 pound OF cop
per cents.
BY answering the above yOu will great
" oblige a reader Of your valuable Jour
nal and a very sOund-money man.
JOHN KELLY.
Richmond Va. Oct. %. 1Se6.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
Labor lest OF Gold.

The proper test Of the value OF an ar
ticle is the labor required TO produce il.
The test applies as well to the gold dol
lar as 10 everything else. II less labor
is required now 10 produce a gold dollar
than was required in 1850 or in lsl3-that
g.. If a given amount of gold will pur-
chase Jess labor or If. IN other words,
wages are hgher-then by the labor test
the only genuine test-the gold dollar
must have gone down instead OF up. And
no silver advocate has attempted 10
deny that wages have risen. The senate
report on wages and prices, made in 1892,
shows conclusively that wages have in
creased over 60 p. c., since 1850, and near
~ a p. c. since ls7o-in gold.
The purchasing power OF wages has in
creased over % p. c. since 1850 and nearly
g p. q. since 1870. The cost OF gold meas
ured by labor has declined Al p. c. since
1850. and nearly p p. q. since 1870.
Taking the cost of gold measured by
labor in 1850 as the standard OF compari-
son. the cost OF gold from 1870 10 1s9l-the
last year included I'm the Adrich senate
report-haS declined as follows:
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Mr. Gary Kaufman, OF Tennessee; Mrs.
Roblev ID Evans and Miss Evans, OF
Fort Monroe: Surgeon Preston il. Bail-
hacho and Or. y. w. Brown United
states Marine Hospital Service; Or. Teie
Mccormick. Norfolk. Mcssrs. IRWIN
Tucker. J 4. Massie. w j. Nelms OF
Newport News. Mossrs. Thornton Jones,
Keith Sinclair. Richard Armstrong, and
Dr. r. l.. H.ge. of Hampton; DR. ana
Mrs. l.. b. Wharton, Mrs. ID. Mon
cure. Mrs. j. J.. Han. Mr ano MRS. l.. W.
Lane Afr. and Mrs. T. J. Stubs. Mr..
and Mrs. IL l.. cole. Mrs. Hartwcll
Macon. Miss Cora Smith. Miss Webb,
Miss Wise. Captain r. A. Bright. Mr..
and Mrs ]. h. Spencer; Messrs 4. L.
Spencer, NJ. Il. Harrcll. II. b. Smith. !.
5. Herbert. J. T. Harris. r. NJ. Hughes
X. H. Tucker. J. Il Porter HELD D. j.
Long. and others. OF Williamsburg.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Charles Hoyts famous farc ,ra c1nneu A.
4 Bunch OF Keys. j me ava ava "r evenins
the Academy at matinee anu che .vasi
P smmer The play has been brshteae 6,r up
Ind many new special features miro nng
duced. The latest and best soas5 bo re~
bosierv have been added without stint;
a aHSie good good il is promised now to be
letter letter than ever. Ada Bothner will play
Teddy and she is only one among
dozen whose business Is 10 SING sWecty,
seats early.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Editor Of The Times;
Sir.-The free silver press need not go
into Mysteries because efforts will Do
made 10 have one fair election In Virginia.
for If we do succeed 90 Will be the first
i'm n long series of years.
Console them by informing them what
I and many others know full well that
so far from the tally-sheet being coercive
Of the voters that they themselves earn
estly desire. beg and ask that n be kept
and voluntarily seek out the taliv-shect
keepers after voting and ask them 10
enter their names.
At my own precinct I have myself kept
a tally-sheet ia previous elections notably
that Of Thorp VS. Mckinney. and know
whereof / speak. The cry Of coercion by
the tally-sheet is the yoriest humbug.
r. Z. WRAN.
White Plains. Va. oct. 25th. 1895
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

They Are seeking New Wet ries Rev. Ora
ham Ianberi'- Illness

HAMPTON, VA, oct. 2s.-Special.-
The Hampton Athletic Football Team.
OF this city, are kept busy licking the
different teams of the country. Fridal.
the 30th instant. they viii play the 90
lLmbias. OF Washington; Monday they
viii tackle :hc University team of Macy
land, and on the 9TH Of November they
play the University II North Caro.,al.
Rev. Graham Lam,"-h VAS taken TO
ST. Vincent's Hospital, ir norfolk. for
treatment this morning. IIc has Sc
we're case of typhoid-fever
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
JUDGE UIDDILL ~ FULTON.
He speaks Before Large and Enthusias.
tic .ifeuc,. % E Eanublic Ms

tic tuiienc~ Of Republic NJ.
About six hundred white and colored
citizens Of Fulton, including men, wo-
men and children. and Captain John
Lamb. assembled i'm the vacant lot oppo-
site DOnoloe's Hail last night TO near
Judge Maddill and Mr.. Morgan Treat eX-
pound Republican doctrines.
Early i'm the proceedings some little
Boys. who didn't KNOW better. were urged
on by Il few men. who ought 10 have
known better, 10 raise a lot OF noise ana
create some disturbance. but the little
game was nipped i'm the bud by the police
officers. who hustled the disturbcrs away.
After that there was perfect order. and
the crowd grew enthusiastic for sound
money and protection, and greeted the
remarks of the speakers with cheer after
cheer. Judge Waddill spoke for over an
hour. and brought out many good points
against the free silver falacy. His re-
marks were closely followed by the audi
cnco. -
During the speech Of Judge Waddiil
man approached 1ho Times reporter ana
remarked that If h. ever stuck his nose
inside of Boltz's Han again sonetn.,ns
would drCp. or words 10 that effect Ihe
.urn, ised hut rot IN the least inOmlddtcd'
r.pOrter asked The reason why, ana ne
was informed that recent mtflhE OF
the Bryan and Scwali and Lamb cum az
that han the attendance. as given IN The
Times the next morning was all WRONG.
He said the hall would hold probably llV
people. and did not deny that several OF
the benches in tho front Of The nan were
empty. and that there was i9ts OF vacant
epace OF many of the othri7' ~ w
threats ana insnuations that the report
or when he said there We're siNty-thr,ese,
men I'm the han. misstated the iacts' "iu
NOT hold coed. The reporter Is n9ot 10
blame because no more people couln a.
Induced to attend the meeting ana HIS
J,,tv compcls him to state facts.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
III. nro,,ou Bridge Lynching Case.

AIKEN. :. c.. oct. 2s.-lhe second day
Of the Erosion bridge lynchiis ,rlai i ms
- ri,,,lor Of witnesses have been eX-
mined Yesterday afternoon ana TINS
.nornlng. and these TO some extent con on
.'|ct some OF the defendants with the
crime Jacob Folk was the most iiii l'',t
tant witness of this morning. ~, ti,S ,,rt,.
mon Incl end ,he two women. But that
i 5e aid pf not 90 with them 10 The scene e. a.
w., W. lvncIing party. Tho courtroom -
hacked with Interested spsc.ae'' =, ,o,,,.,
The case will probably cOn''''u0
Tomorrow.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

them all, and statistics show tho value OF
the surplus farm products exported FOR
out of a total value of exports for the
past fiscal year OF SS35. 20. s6l. farm pro-
ducts alone were valued al $50. 10000. IL
is not the farmers of our section that
are effected but of the whole country.
North South. East and West. for the
value OF cotton exports alone was $3.50
COZ. 900. wheat and -four S9l 7Ooo 90. live ami
mails sil, 500. 600. fresh and picked meats
s2s. 600. CO. corn s3g $4,000. and bacon and
lard So 600 600. In which list is contained
farm products from every section OF the
Union.
To the farmer free silver means the
loss of millions Of dollars-ruin, Let him
then vote accordingly. +. $. J.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Mr.. Charles T.. McCluer. the uls.tic'
superintendent of the Southern heN ~
phone and Telegraph Company, WI"
asked for h's plans in view OF 'he
ton Of the Chamber Of commerce a",
vising the people to get rid OF the sen
telephones for the Richmond telephones
politely 0ccl' led to give them 10 inc
pubic.
lie did state. however. that his COM
rsny was thoroughly justified in secur-
ing an Injunction against the city. our
property was threatened. we nave
large amount OF capital Invested mere
and we only acted as any prudent pusi-
ness man would have done.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
Narrow Escape.

An alarm ol fIr Wiz illirc ~ rom
the private box at the Virginia Hospital
.roupt.V rcsuonded 10 by the chemical
engine company and the Broad street
truck. The alarm turned out 10 be 4
false one. caused by some smoke coming
out of q window I'm frame house on the
As the horses attacked 10 the truck rush
ed out Of the house on Broad street an
unknown man was just passing. and be
fore he knew what had happened he be-
came entangled with the legs OF the
fiery animals. and by the greatest euorl
leaned aside lust i'm time 10 prevent what
might have been fatal accident.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

ernor Burkeley. and similar other pub
lIshcd reports.
nave every reason to believe that our
banks arc faithfully managed. ana that
their funds are never applied to political
objects or to any other than 10 strictly
Legitimate objects. Ny remark. how
ever. Is still intended 10 apply generally
to northern and western financial institu-
tions. LEWIS H. BLAIR.
Richmond. Va, October 18th.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
The gold standard hns heen a very zoo

The gold standard has been a very good
thing for wage-working labor. The
Popullst leaders know that. Mr.. Bryan
knows il. too. But they are not saying
anything about IT. The average price "
labor I'm the factories of the United States
was s2ss per capita in 1860, and in 1880 it
was sis4 per capita. Not only Is this
great difference in labors price and in
labor's favor pain In gold wages, but
every dollar OF the increase buys from
a. 10 20 per cent. more goods in the mar
ket and ar the stores than It did I'm 1850
And that j. the chief complaint Of the
Populists. They think labor is too well
paid. They think labors wages. paid in
gold dollars. buy too much to eat and
drink and wear. and they want TO cut
them down. They want TO do II by
shrinking the value OF each dollar, and
so reducing the purchasing power or
wages, which is the same thing. in effect.
as directly cutting down the wages
Baltimore Sun.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
\ Change.

Thomas II. Woodson, sli north Sixth
street, says: For l'seyen years have
been afflicted with lung trouble. hoarse-
One bottle of Mexican Cough cure has
greatly relieved the cough and hoarseness
and entirely stored the bleeding. ] am
recommending II TO any OF my friends
who are afflicted in the same way; gc.
bottle. &c. Large 800 bottle OF To-Ks.
the Mexican Blood Tonic. &c. SAMPLES
free. Office. 3o5 east Broad street. To-
Ka" stamped in each bottle. City orders
delivered.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
The Best of the noyt Comedies.

Uovt's "A Runch of Keys VIII be al
the Academy AZ the matinee and evening
performances To-Day. rms greatest OF
an farce comedies was written by Charles
Hoyt. II was his FIRST eHOrt, ana lald
the foundation OF the eminent Senator s
fortune. Each year Mr.. Hoyt turns out
one or more OF his admirable skits. All
have been more or less successful. but
without doubt the "bunch or Keys is
50 far his masterpiece. Manager Both
ner always presents Il with 4 clever com
pany. and Is continually brushing 1t up
anu introducing up-to-date features. Ada
bothner VIII play Teddy. We all know
her ana love her Tor her cleverness.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

CAPE CHARLES. VA. oct 2s.-Spe-
ciai.-The body of Harry Sack. the He
brew peddler drowned about two weeks
ago by boat being capsized while com
during storm, was found to-day I'm a
somewhat deComposed condition, and
shipped 10 his uncle. Rabbi H. A. Bramo.
Vitz Of New York.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
THE LirEST JICffH.
Malcolm \. Coles the Target of Hoodlums
-, a..ptnas

in Accomac.
CAPE CHARLES. VA, oct. %.-Spe-
cial.-Hon. NJ. A. Coles. OF Northumber-
land county. member Of the Virginia
House Of Delegates. was cgged last night
while addressing Repupileah mass
meeting of about two hundred people
in front of the hotel at New Church,
Accomac county.
IL was with considerable difficulty that
the speaker finished his address. at the
conclusion of which he received the con-
gratulations OF many friends for the
courage and nerve he displayed in con-
tinuing his speech under such adverse
circumstances.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29
Gold Receipts.

NEW YORK. oct. 2s.-The steamship
Teutonic. which arrived to-day. brought
gold consigned as follows: Lazard Freres.
81, go 900: w. II. crossman IL Brother.
sos. coo: Bank OF British Nothr America.
500 900. National CITY Bank. SIS. 0oo.
Adams Express. for Cincinnati account.
100000, and to order. tsss.coo. Total,
q. lSo.oA
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

The labor test confirms the result OF the
interest test, that gold has not appreciat-
ed in value.-touisville Courier Journal.
The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1896-10-29

Harvey & co. invite the public 10 call
ana inspect the finest show OF Chrysan-
themums and Roses ever seen In Rich
mona az their store, west Broad.
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16
PERSONAL MENTION.

Miss Annie Seager returned home from
Johnstown last evening and is sojourning
with her parents, on South White street.
Mrs. l.. A. Anstock presented her husband
with daughter this morning.
DIR. g. d. TAFT with his cures" is again
with us, making his headquarters at Po-
viusky's drug store.
Charles Rad2ewiez, George Cox, William
Sny der, Joe Kupchinski and William Chin
elewski spent to-day hunting at Green
Mountain.
William Ramer, a Shenandoah tOnsorial
artist, was at the bedside of his uncle, Henry
Miller, in town, this morning.-Nt Carmel
Star.
Rev. f. F. Kob, formerly pastor of the
Presbyterian church. is the guest of his
daughter Miss Idaho p. Kolb.
Dan Brennan returned home from a hunt
ing trip to the Catawissa valley yesterday
with four rabbits. three quail and two pheas.
ants. Well done, Dan; try again.
Messrs p. c. Detweiler and f. Katermann
of Schuylkill Haven, were registered at the
Commercial to-day
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16
An OVercoat Oner.

This is an offer in which everybody is in
terested. The cold weather is here and the
oyercoat and good warm suit is mans best
friend. Our overcOat are unprecedented in
magnitude and unrivaled in excellence. No
tailor can make any better at three times the
price-in fact no better made at any price.
Free, unrestricted, unlimited choice Of all
our very finest imported ovorcoats for a
limited time only This offer has never been
before sttempted-never will be offered again
and should bring the big piles down to the
level we want them in less than ten days.
Nothing better for a Christmas present for
the father or son, or any other man, youth
or boy, but in addition to our large line OF
clothing, hats, caps and gents furnishing
goods will also have specially selected line
Of Christmas presents in fancy gloves, smok,
ing jackets, etc. One Of our winter caps may
prevent your husband or son from having hi:
ears frost bitten. They are very cheap.
ONE PRICE CLOTHING HOUSE,
10 South Main Street,
11-23-tf l.. REFowICH, Prop.
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16
o. BETTERIDGE, Supt.
BLYTHE School Cnntest.

The report of the examiner iu the Blythe
township school director contest, recon-
mends the seating of Martin Delaney and
Andrew Gallagher; there were erasures of
crosses in the circle at the head of the Repub-
lican column in sixteen ballots, and the ex-
aminOr finds there was fraudulent tsmpsring
with the ballot box. As many as 10 showed
they had been changed. The examiner also
finds that there was good ground for this con-
test, and recommends that the said school dis
trict of Blythe township be directed to pay the
costs of the contest. Martin Delaney and
Peter Murray were the contestants, with
James Garfield and Andrew Gallagher re-
spondents.
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16
POLITICAL TALK.

Recorder Emanuel Jenkyn has announced
his appointments as follows; Deputy.
Thomas s. Herb, of fremont; clerks, Ed.
ward McGuinnis of Girardvile; George w.
KEEPER, of Shenandoah, and William Loeser,
of Minersville.
The Republican club of MAhanoy City re-
fused to endorse WAnamaker, because the
majority are favorable TO Penrose
1t is stated that Major Mckinley has de-
cded to appoint j. Hay Brown, of Lancaster,
= strong Quay adhorent, as Attorney General
in his cabinet.
Commissioner Rentz said yesterday that he
had made no appointments yet.
Senator Quay will be in Harrisburg the
latter end of this month and remain there
until the Senatorial contest is over.
The political announcement of Adam
Tabor, the East Centre street butcher, ap-
pears in the HERALD to-day. He seeks the
nomination of Chief Burgess at the hands of
the Democrats. Mr.. Tabor has done effective
work for that party and his friends feel that
he should receive the recognition asked for
and are confident that he will be nominated
by the Democrats
Ex-Lieutenant Governor Waters has just
returned home from Paris and announces
that he is for Penrose.
The friends of Councilman Coakley say he
will have no trouble in securing a re-nomina.
tion in the First ward.
The Democratic combination-whch in
cludes Tabor for Chief Burgess and Scanlan
as the Tax Receivers giving the other can
didates no little trouble. The latter are con-
fdent, however, of breaking the slate.
If the Citizens party fails in nominating
strong tickets in the various wards it wont
be for want of available material.
| Councilman Hand has made good repre-
sentative and his friends justly claim that he
is entitled to be returned for another term.
The borough election is two months of,
yet there is much activity among the local
| politicians
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16

The lOvers of the light fantastic" are
looking forward to the annual ball of the
Patriotic Drum Corps in anticipation of a
great deal of pleasure. The ball will be held
on the 21th inst, in Robbins opera house. and
will surpass anything of the kind yet held
by that excellent musical organization.
Dancing music will be furnished by the
Schoppe orchestra The drum corps has
made rapid strides towards proficiency, and
ranks second to none in this section The
proceeds of the ball will be devoted to pro-
curing equipments, and the boys should be
literally patronized
The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1896-12-16
The Chance of n Lifetime.

The HERALD can only repeat the good
words it said for the automatic exposition
and its management. While great crowds
have visited the veritable works of in.
genuity, skill and art, which are of the
highest order, all who should have not gone.
1t ought not to be said that there is parent
in the town who would not only go himself
but would take his family to see the greatest
marvel every brought to Shenandoah.
Teachers should go this afternoon or evening,
and when they do we feel sure they will
arrange to send the children to the greatest
kindergarten any one ever saw.