The herald., 1896-03-01
EDUCATION OF ARIzoNANs
Net nlndered BY Objection Made by
Cattle Bar0ns
Passed and the Fee system to
be Abolished
Associated Press Special Wire

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the bill, while the votes to sustain the
president were all cast by Democrats.
Tho bin authorizes the governor and local
authorities Of Arizona to lease the school
lands of the territory for educational pur-
poses. The pr-sident's objection to the
bill was that it did not give the secretary
Of tho interior power to disapprove the
leases, and did not throw proper safe
guards about the timber on the lands. The
statement was made on the floor that the
Ill was identical with a similar bill passed
by the last congress to Oklahoma territory
at the request of the secretary of the in
tsrice, and that the bill had received the
written approval of both Secretary Smith
and the commissioner of the general land
once. The statement was also made that
ne lands proposed to be leased were now
IN possession of cAttlemen and others rent
ffss.
The remainder Of the day was consumed
IN tho consideration of the legislative ap.
propriation bill. No amendments of pub
Iic interest were adopted. By q special
system in the case Of United States district
aetornsys and marshal will be offered as
m amendment on Monday.
The senate amendments to the army ap.
pgupeiAtion bill we're non-concurred in by
The house. and the bill was sent to confer
once.
Lacey, chairman of the public lands
committee, then called up the bill to lease
certain lands in Arizona for school pur-
poses, vet0ed yesterday by the president,
and moved it be passed over the veto. La
ooy said the house was confronted with the
constitutional interference of the president
On . bill that passed both houses unan-
imously.
sIs it interference7" asked Miles, Dem.
ocFat Of Maryland.
Unconstitutional Interference replied
Lacey, land one that may be fatal. Two
great bodies going IN opposite directions
have encountered each other" Lacey ex-
planned the bill was identical with that
authorizing Oklahoma to lease her educa-
tional lands for school purposes, prepared
and pasaed by the last congress at the re-
quest Of the secretary of the interior and
commissioner of the general land office.
A. result of the Oklahoma bill $SS, 900
had been realized last year, while under
the former system sac, 5000 only had been
obtained. Was it not implied that the
governor Of Arizona was not as competent
70 lease these lands a. the secretary of the
Interior, 1900 miles away? Both were
ClevelAnd's appointees. The veto message
had called attention to the opposition of
''the influential citizens" of Arizona. Nat
urally such opposition would exist. The
The law of that territory worked admirably.
Some OF these lands were now occupied
without authority and without rental,
1.-THE president" Lacey said, "had un-
doubt edly been deceived. He had been in.
Auene,ed by men who had perhaps been
lnfiuauCed by others interested in obtain
ing the use of these lands free of CHARGE"
Underwood (Dem.) of Alabama, Q men,
Der Of the public lands committee, coin
eided with Lacey. The bill was good one
and should become law. In answer to
question by Sayers (Dem.) of Teyas. Lacey
eaid the bill had not been submitted to the
secretary OF the interior. The committee
relied upon the report of the secretary of
the interior in the case of Oklahoma, the
condition being practically identical. In
both cases the cattle barons were in pos
session and paid no rent. There was no
reason to mako fish Of one and fowl of the
other. Sayers asked the matter 90 over
until the opinion of the secretary of the in.
terror could be obtained. II would be un-
willing to ask the secretary Of the interior,
even With his colossal assurance replied
Lacey, ITO make recommendation we
should override the presidential veto."
Murphy, the Arizona delegate, made a
positive statement that the bill had the ap-
pfovI Of the secretary of the interior and
eommts:ioner Of the general land office.
lad before the president while he was con-
sidsring the bill.
lcRae, Democrat, of Arkansas, chair.
man Of the public lands committee of the
last house. said he would pass the bill over
the veto. Murphy said the protests re-
ceived by the president were from persons
being benefited by the use of lands, rent
and taxes free. A vote was then taken on
the passage of the bill over the veto.
The vote resulted 200 to 38. More than
two-thirds having voted in the affirmative,
the bill was declared passed over the pres
idsnt's veto. The announcement was
greeted with scattering applause on the
Republican sioe.
Thsse who voted to sustain the president
we're a. follows: Allen of Mississippi.
Catchings. Clardy. Cobb Of Missouri, Cul.
berson, Dockery, Elliott of South Carolina,
Harrison, Hart, Hendrix, Kyle, Lawson,
Lester, Mcclellan, McCreary. Mcmillan,
Meredith, Meyer. Miles, Otey, Owens, Pat
terson, Pendleton, Robertson, Russell of
Tucker: Turner Of Georgia, Turner of vir-
Gtnia. Washington and Yoakum-3S, all
Democrats.
Tho Republicans and Populists voted
solidly in fayGr of passing the bill over the
veto. The Democrats. thirty-two in num-
Populists. were as follows: Bailey, Cobb
OF Alabama, Cox, Crisp. Cummings, Dear
mond, Dinsmore, Downing, Hutcheson.
1atimer. Layton, Little, Livingston. Mad
0ox. McCulloch, McDearmOn. McLaurin,
NcRae. Money, Moses, Neill, Richardson,
Robbins, Stallings, Stokes, Strait. Talbert,
Terry, Underwood, Wheeler and Williams.
Mr.. Henderson, Republican of Iowa,
from the committee on rules. then pre-.
sented the special order of which he had
given notice yesterday, making it in order
to offer the bill to abolish the fee system
In the case of United States attorneys and
marshals as an amendment to the legisla-
tive appropriation bill. He explained that
the house was strongly in favor of this
measure. and that the adoption of the rule
would give congress an opportunity to work
this much needed reform. He expressed
the belief that reduction of over $780,
600 could be effected. The appropriations
tor United States marshals and deputies
had increased from 5000, 900 in 1890 to
4l,68O,OO0 in 1895; for United States at
tcrneys from $2S9,OOO to $41O,OOO; for
United States commissioners from 1885,
600 to $4,000. The total appropria-
tons for the United States courts had
increased since 1885 from $3,13O, 900 to
$6,461 900.
Mr.. Catchings (Democla at of Mississippi)
asked II an amendment would be in order
p abolish the fee system of the United
States clerks.
M. Henderson, replied that he did not
think it would.
The subcommittee which had prepared
the bill, he said, did not include clerks be.
cause clerks were not engaged in working