The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-11-18

Q-That Is best known to him.
GLOW do you know it was for his
own purpose?
A.-Because ! was innocent.
Q.-Does he charge you with any.
thing?
Ale did, yes sir.
Q.-You?
Ayes.
Q,-What did he charge you with?
A--Charged me with writing letters
to this lady.
Ole might have wanted to find out
whether you were or not?
Ale might have asked me.
His Picture in House of Ill Fame
Q.-You understand your picture was
down in that house of i'll fame?
Al have heard so since, not to my
personal knowledge
Q.-From what appears in this trial,
it appears that it was?
Ayes, sir.
Q.-Do you think it was unnatural
for the captain of police to try and find
out why it was there?
None of the Captains Business.
Al considered it was none of his
business
Q.-That is your idea of the duty of
the police department?
Ayes, sir.
Csc far as they were concerned,
your picture, taken in uniform, might
be in houses of i'll fame all over the
country?
A.-Provided / did not object
Q.-lou have that idea of the public
duty in Salt Lake?
Al have an idea 1 can give my
picture to anybody I please.
Q.-Taken in uniform?
civ
Q.-Without reference to your being
a police officer, or the duties you owe
the city, that is your idea of public
duty?
Ayes.
o.-How long have you been on the
force?
Att will be two years next jan
uary.
Q.-You say you did not give your
picture to the woman?
Al say so. yes.
Q.-You were appointed here by the
present chief, weren't you?
Ayes, sir.
Q.-Seems to be a good deal of feel
ing all around the department, amt
there, Mr.. Gillespie, among the officers
A.-No, sir; not to my knowledge.
Q.-Only between you and Ford and
Pratt, then, and Donovan. is that it?
A.-There is none between me and
ANYBODY.
Q.-You haven't any feeling
A.-No sir.
Q--You didn't mean what you said
q while ago, that since this trouble
commenced you had some
A.-Only as a personal affair Of my
own, l did not want to be implicated
in it, 1 considered he did wrong in i'm
plicating me in it.
Q.--You told that to Pratt too, told
this whole thing to Pratt.
Ayes, L may have done.
Q.-You did not care where your pic
ture was?
Al did not say so.
Q.-Yes you did?
Al did not.
NObOdy's Business.
Q.-You said it was nobody's bust
ness where it was?
Al say so again.
Q.-You did not take any steps to get
it back?
A.-No. sir.
Q.-You did not care, did you?
Al did not care in that particular
case. no sir.
Q.-Donovan did not injure you any
In ascertaining the fact and talking to
SOu dDOuI II
Aft he stuck to the facts it would
be all right, he deviated from them.
Gle deviated from the facts?
Ayes, sir, from the truth.
Q.-That is, when he told you about
Mcdonald having your letters?
A.-Yes. sir. s
Odd you go and see Mcdonald?
Add I?
Q.-Yes.
A-No, I do not think 1 did.
Q.-How in the world do you know
that Mcdonald did not have them?
A-Because 1 never wrote them.
Q.-How do you know he did not
have your photograph?
Allow do l know he did not have?
Q.-Yes?
Al do not know but that possibly
he did.
Q.-As to the photograph you do not
know that Donovan deviated from the
truth?
A-As to the photograph?
Q.-Yes.
Axes, I heard so afterwards, Nc
Donald told me himself.
Q.-You did ask Mcdonald?
Ayes, 1 asked him and he told me
he did not have it.
Redirect examination by Mr. Suth-
erland.
Odd you give your photograph to
this woman Frandzen?
A.-No, sir.
Or have you given your photo
graph to any woman of loose charac-
ter?
A.-No, sir
His Photograph in Mount Pleasant.
Off she has your photograph. or if
it is in a house in Mount Pleasant,
are you responsible for its being there
in any way whatever?
A.-Well, l understand that 1t is
there now.
Q.-Are you responsible for its being
there?
A-No, sir.
Re-cross examination by Mr.. Varian:
Obtained 1t from Someone Else.
Odd you know the woman before
she went there?
Al did.
Q.-Saw her here in Salt Lake?
Ayes, sir.
Q.-Know that she had an oppor-
tunity Of seeing your photograph?
A.-No, I do not.
Off she got it, you do not know
how she got it, or where?
Al understood where she got 1t
from.
Q.-Had you missed the photograph?
A.-No, sir.
Q.-She got it from somebody else?
Al understand so; yes, sir
This installment will be followed by
the official report of the testimony of
Sergeant Ford, had cautioned him re-
yardinor teSfipONy op5 Eord,.. a.o1,..