The Kimball graphic. (Kimball, Brule County, Dakota [S.D.]) 1883-1905, 1895-07-27

IA Ia 1910 aiA0 Nv
United States census shows tina de-
has been increased at a dispro-
ratio. So had the number of
convicts, persons confined
In all classes of prisons, insane asylums,
and of suicides. 1t was a prosperity
has built up ~millionaires and null
and strewn this country
with millions of tramps and paupers
and men that don't know how they are
going to provide for their families in
the coming years. A change in relative
production had no effect so long as the
mints We're open to the two metals. Gap
Why Silver Fell.
Mr.. Horr: II have never said that
the cheap price of silver was not on &C
count of its overproduction. Silver has
become cheap In this world just pre-
cisely the same as wheat and iron and
zinc n lead n other articles have
been cheapened, and precisely for the
same reason. applause" All Of these
articles ave been cheapened by the
natural laws which govern the produce
ton of every substance known to the
producers Of the world.
w. d. Wilcox of Chicago: How
about gold?"
Mr.. Horn: Gold the same. l am
glad you asked me. Gold has depreci-
ited in value in less than 100 years SO
per cent. 1t is cheaper now than 1t
vas in 1873. All articles that can be
produced by inventions are cheaper
han they were before the invention
vas made. Every method which brings
machinery into play and puts less hu-
nan toll into the production of any
irticle cheapens that article. The
Whole trend of civilization is to cheap
IN human products, gold as Well az
silver and wheat A large number OF
he articles today produced in the
world have not been decreased in value
Ut all by the decentralization of silver,
imply because the laws of production
nave crowded down the price. l can
get today twice as much gold for a
lays work following ne pillow as i did
n 1S49. The people of this country are
/, aid in gold for their work.; so they
were in 1860. Wages are 10 per cent
higher, paid In gold. for the same
lmount of work, than in 1860. Has no
,old deprecated. then, when you meas
ire II III lNe sIehl CoIililOultleS OIL Hu-
nan toll? What l find fault with Is
hat the silver men invariably leave
tut of their calculations this article of
abor, and the article of labor is the
greatest article known in the civilized
world. Cut down the pay of labor and
you paralyze the entire business of
my nation. The men who do the work,
and especially in a republic like ours,
are the men who and when
you propose a system that attempts
&c a me off with money that compels
NY children to go hungry, hat COM
pels my family to deprive themselves
Of the comforts of life, 1 protest."
MIR. Harvey: Mr.. Horr says that
has been cheapened, In
Guiding gold. To say hat gold and
products cheaper simultaneously Is a
financial contradiction. You buy gold
by exchanging other property for 1t.
When 1t takes more property to buy
gold than formerly. gold has risen. In
stead of becoming cheaper gold has be-
cone dearer. That is the case now.
And yet. Mr.. Horn, by sophistry, rea-
that 1t has ecome cheaper. He
to n laboring man: You can
buy more with a gold dollar now than
YOU ever could, and then turns to you
Ind says that gold is growing cheapN
hi the time"
The Audience Takes Part.
This ended the debate for the day and
questions We're submitted from the audi
ance:
Mr.. Horr: This question is put to me bv
John ]. McGrath, treasurer of the Brick.
ayers and Stone Masons' union, of Chi
cago. is Mr.. McGrath here? / do not know
/ quite understand this question, but
will read it:
"'Why is 1t hat the ~workingman's op
portunity does not keep pace with his in
creased productivcness. If he produces
i've times whut he did twenty years ago.
ought he not to get five times the pay?
N other words, what right has the dollar
hat it's value purchasing power) should
De increased thereby
81 do not understand the last line: l UNI
the import. however, of the gen
sral question. The trouble with that qucs-
lion is that MIR. McGrath assumes two or
.hree things that may not be true. Why is
t thus. the w~orkingmnn's opportunity does
not keep pace with his Increased product
Iveness? | do not know but what it does
If he produces five times what he did
years ago" Well, l don't know as
he does. Do you lay five times as many
bricks as you used to lay thirty years ago;
tan n man do that? 1t is a fair question.
did not know as o could do that"
Mr.. Harvey: did not you state in your
argument the other day that the product
veness had increased something like five
as much?'
Mr.. Horr: II don't know, but whether
lid nJ, mot I will an ~ % l,,t I ala NOT ,,,-
that each laboring man produced five
tines as much by any means. l stated be-
fore. and l will repeat it now. that every
invention that Is made may increase pro-
iuctiveness twenty times, but not of the
nan that works at hand labor. | stated
he Law this morning, that whenever such
is made a part of the profits
go to increase the pay of the la
,orer. part of 1t should go to the cheaper
ng of the substance for those who con-
1t and part of it should go TO the in
or manager to pay him for his in
1ention and for the running of the bust
hess. MIR. McGrath. how much do you get
| day for laying brick%
MIR. Harvey: MIR. McGrath handed me
hat question Saturday and asked to see
hat it was put to you"
MIR. Horr: is there any one in this audi
.ncc who knows what bricklayers get here
for such work? | would like to know
f any of these men who are cheering me
or Mr.. Harvey are br~lcklayers. or If they
<now how much bricklayers get low. My
friend says here so cents an hour. That
would be at the rate of IS for ten hours
work. | used to hire b%ricklayers at $2.25 a
lay. They were paid in the currency of the
country: They are getting now. say. 81 a
Jay and are paid in gold. Does that show
gold has increased In pr.ce?"
Mr.. Harvey: THEY get 1t when they get
Adjourned till / p. m. tomorrow.
sketch OF the Dciatcrs.
William Hope Harvey was born In
Putnam county. w. Va, Au-
gust 16. 1851. He left school when 16 to
'ead law and three years later was ad-
to the bar. In 1875 he moved to
o., n Dracticed law there
two years. He located in Chicago
n 1877 II began the practice of law,
an Office in the Portland block.
In 1879 he went to Gallipolis. O., and be-
a partner In the dry goods firm of
Halliday & Co. He married Miss
Halliday, by whom he has had
children. In 1884 he moved to
Denver, Colo, where investments be-
came his special Inc of business. From
$50 to 1893 he lived in Ogden. Utah. In
May, 1893. he returned to Chicago nj
the literary work which has made
famous.