The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-01-23


Senate today by Mr.. Butler (Democrab,
of South Carolina.
Mr.. Chandler stated that the report
was not unanimous, and gave notice that
when the bill was taken up he would
offer an amendment concerning the sub
mission Of freight and passenger rates to
the interstate commerce commission.
AIR. Allen, of Nebraska, presented a
large bunch of petitions from citizens of
Alabama, claiming that they were de-
pTlved of 3, republican form of govern
ment and asking the Intervention Of
Congress.
Mr.. WoIcott Republican), Of Colorado,
submitted resolutions from the leglsla-
0ure of Colorado, Teciting the ciTcum-
stances, of default in paying the Pacific
railroad debt and urging the speedy SET
clement of the governments rights.
A resolution was passed asking the sec
rotary of the interior for information as
10 permits to cut timber from public
lands.
Another resolution was passed asking
InIormauon as TO pension applications
Hawaii Again.
This cleared the decks for the renewal
OF the debate over Hawaii. Minister
Thprston, OF Hawaii was again in the
diplomatic gallery accompanied by his
secretary, MIR. Hastings. The subject
came up on Mr.. hyle's resolution, which
is one expressing generally the diSap-
IrovaI of the Senate in the action of the
ADMINISTRATION n withdrawing warshtps
from Hawaii.
again took the floor to further answer,
he said, the fiimsy attacks made in the
Senate against the administration. The
senator referred to the statement by
Senator Hawley, made yesterday, as to
the president seeing the royaliSt delega-
ton, which visited Washington last Au-
gust. Mr.. Gray reiterated that the presi-
dent had never seen these delegates, be
ing sick at the time.
Are you prepared to say that they
never saw the secretary of state?" asked
Mr. Frye.
Mr.. Gray said ne had no information
Mr.. Hawley rose to reply, holding in
his hand a newspaper slip containing
President Cieveland's statement of the
Facts concerning the r0ydlist delegates.
Mr.. Hdwley said he had not intended to
maintain that 9, personal interview be-
tween the president and the royalists had
occurred He was reliably informed that
there had been no personal interview, but
continued reading from the presidents
statement to show the royaliStS had seen
Secretary Gresham. It should be kept
N mind that these delegates We're the
representatives of those conspiring to re-
store a deposed queen. They were in
Washington either as conspirators
against the existing government of Ha-
mission. If it was honest, they ought 10
have been referred TO the Hawaiian min
sister. If they were conspirators, they
should not have been received by Mr.
Gresham. Mr.. HaTley readl from the
letter Of the royalist delegates to the
secretary of state:
sent by the depoSed queen, request al
interview with the president
Whole Course Wrong.
Just think of the audacity,' said Mr.
Hawley. Think OF this request of oul
secretary OF state after We had formal!
recognized the government of Hawaii
The senator said he desired to make nC
personal arrafgnment of the president bT
q hO1
course on Hawaii had been wrong.
Dir. Gray again answered the criticisms
upon the president. He said these attack
were 50 constant the animus SO evident
that it was, perhaps, useless to controVer
them. Some people seemed determined t
attack The president whatever the sub
ject might be. If he sat down he wa
TOO long; if he stood up he was too short
These critics were bound to find fault
The presidents letter TO royalist delegat e
was purely unofficial. 1t was part of tn
course by which the president, with
strong hanGs was endeayor1ng TO conduc
business. The senator declared this agi
tation and this talk of keeping warship
at Honolulu was kept up largely by tn
''SchemerS for annexation" who though
it would help their cause.
The Samoan question was unexpectedly
INTERCEPTED into debate at his point. Nj
Gray referred TO the fact the United State
was now bound by International agree
ment to keep q. barbarous king in pOWe
I'm Samoa It would not do to declair
against g barbarouS queen, when we d
the same time were protecting and main
tanning such a king.
A Government of Force.
Mr. George declared the Hawaiian gov
eminent was republican only in form.
was a government of force II mad bee
established by force, and was now main
tanned by force.
Mr. Lodge presented a new phase of tn
subject by submitting a long list of tn
islands in the Pacific which Great BTitai
had gradually absorbed. In pursuance g
q settled policy, England was taking ever
che r-fnrrfh lou haal hon
on. They were now trying to get Necke
island, of the Hawaiian group. This wa
psrt OF the British policy of aggression
This British influence was back of tn
royalist element in Hawaii. The heir
the throne was Princess ha1ulanS
daughter of an EngIishnan, and now be
ing educated in England Her guardian
Theophilus Davis, was an English symps
thiZer, and was to some extent identifie
with the recent uprising OF the royalists.
THE arms used in this uprising wer
bought by an Englishman," declared Nj
Lodge. They were shipped in a BIRTHS
ship from Canadian port. The dnsu1
rectionists were largely EngliShmer
When the Alameda. left Hawaii hftee
Canadians were under arrest and tn
British minister was interceding in thei
behalf. This" said Mr. Lodge, mad
the case that British influence was be
hind the royalist element in Hawaii. -
Thought it Peculiar.
The senator proceeded to critieise TIL
action OF the administration in takin
ships from Honolulu, and then confer
ring with the royaESt delegates VIII
came to Washington Mr.. Lodge though
1t a. peculiar incident that WarShips wer
withdrawn in July at the time when tn
royalists were in Washington. The pres
tnt administration Was openly and avoW
elly opposed TO the existing governnoeT
of Hawaii. The speeches of senators i
defense Of the administration were
effect speeches in support of the royals
element OF Hawaii. 1t was time for az
si3n by Congress. It Was no longer
question of the new or the old govern
nlent of Hawaii, but a question of rnadr
tanning American interests in Hawai-
The Senate had heretofore passed a res
olution stating that any foreign occJ
nancy OF Hawaii would not be tolerate
by the United States. This was a thred
70 The rest of the world. 1t created
responsibility on the part of the Unite
States 1t should impel US to uphold th
existing government because 1T rsprI
eentezi American interest and America
spirit as against foreign sentiment.
Mr.. Lodge closed with an dmpaSsione
protest against the pulling down of tn
American flag when dt had once bee
0fr. Kyle gave figures from the lates
Hawaiian year book showing the man
millions of American capital invested i
-@FIoyy much of that is held by one ma
CLANS Spreckels?' asked Mr.. Gray.
Mr.. Kyle did not have the figures as {
This closed the Hawaii debate for th