The record-union., 1895-07-17
Copyright. 1895, by Azel F. Hatch. !

Copyright, 1895, by Azel f. Hatch.
CHICAGO, July 16.-Two men met in q
little room this afternoon at the Illinois
Club and began a spirited contest OF
national honor, one fighting for silver
and the other for gold, with all the
powers and facts at their command. one
of them was Roswell q. Horr, once a
member of Congress from Michigan,
now an editorial writer for the New
York Tribune, and the othor was W. II.
Harvey OF Chicago, author o. COINS
| Financial School," Mr. Horr cham
pioned the cause OF gold. while Mr..
Harvey threw down the gauntlet for
silver.
The privilege of being present at this
momentous contest WAS accorded 10 few.
There were seats Tor about 200 persons in
The clubhouse. but only little over half
that number were present.
Congressman Siuley occupied q prom
inent seat. y prominent advocate OF the
gold standard was y. b. Humphrey, Sec
retary OF the National League Of Repub-
lican Clubs. Others present were: Ly-
man j. Gage, referee for Mr.. Horr; Ferd.
w. Peck ana y. Ii. Revel of Chicago,
L. Il. Powers Of st. Paul, DR.. 5. y.
Robinson of Now York. and Charles
IL. Sergel of Chicago. The last three
acted as advisers 10 MIR. Eorr, and sat by
his side taking copious notes while Mr..
Harvey spoke. Mr.. Harvey consulted
little with anybody. lie brought with
him great pile of authorities for the
purpose OF substautlating statements
made III his book
\ man with watch sat near the speak
M WEnnpVpr q q jn II
minutes he would rap loudly on call
bell This gave the speaker warning that
he had two minutes moro to conclude his
statement. by these stages OF ten min
utes each the speakers will proceed for
eight days, using only the afternoons
and resting sundays.
DR.. Homer Thomas, President of the
Illinois Club, called the assem- blage to
order, briefly setting forth the objects OF
the debate. lie Introduced Hon. l.. O..
Miller and Judge William Vincent, both
Of Chicago who he said would be judges
and at the conclusion of the controversy
decide which had the best of the novel
debate.
MIR. Miller then read the rules which
are to govern. 1t was. he said, the inten-
ton OF the speakers to deliver 10000
words. Of these 5000 are to be reserve ed
for use at the end of the discussion. This
will give each a chance TO recapitulate his
| argument III Z,OUU WOTUS. Iire6 hundred
words additional VIII be allowed each as
a reioinder TO his opponents closing ar
gument. Mr.. Miller stated that the whole
discussion was copyrighted, and that
while il would be given the widest pu b.
Iir!ty through the press, it was the IN
tention of the principals to preserve the
debate as private property and issue it in
book form.
The debate was started by Mr. Horr,
who referred TO the author Of COINS III
nancial SCHOOL, with some severity He
said he never read book containing so
many mistakes. Mr.. Harvey then out
lined his plans. Mr.. Horr wanted to
know why the names OF prominent citi-
zens had been used in Harvey's book,
and words put into their mouths that
they had never used, TO which Mr.. Har-
vey replied that his book was simply an
alIegory, and The fact that a little boy
was put i'll as teacher ought TO 5e enough
to prove TO any sensible person that this
was SO.
Then the speakers plunged into The
fight. The argument at ali times was
very spirited, and both speakers several
, times had hard work TO preserve their
tempers. Following Is a synopsis of the
: argument:
A1tor criticising Mr.. Harvey's unau-
tnorized use OF Chicago business mems
, names, attributiDg TO them statements
| W
sake OF allegory instead OF using the
, names OF fictitious persons, Mr.. Horr
said:
Now I come to the motto of the book
which is this: L thank thee, Lord Of
. heaven and earth, because thou hast hid
these things from the wise and prudent
aud hast revealed them under the babes >
| would like my friend to tell me why be
used that motto. Does he desire 10 inti-
mate that the kind OF finance which he
teaches Is something that babes well
understand, but people who know any
thing viii never be able 20 comprehend
OF course l cannot conceive what the OBJ
ject OF The motto Is, but the motto usually
leads up to the contents OF the book. Do
you mean to intimate that great cotnpli-
Gated questions OF finance are so sim e
that little children can understand them,
when grown men cannot find anything
about them? Is that your idea, that
when man saw the apple fall the babe
would have found out u great deal more
from the circumstance that Newton
did"
Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr misinterprets
the meaning OF that verse. The word
'babes' is Intended to mean those pure
OF mind and unseliish. 1t is in that sense
that is used III the Bible, and means that
those pure in mind and unseltish can
clearly see those things which the
} not see or understand. The cause
| represent is pure and unseltish.
} Now | begin. In carrying out the
ideas of my book, an illustrated preface
was added to show the rise and decline OF
} civilization, concurrent with an increase
and decrease in the volume of primary
money. The two pictures that appeared
in the book were thus used; the space be-
low the pictures was limited i'll which 10
place the illustration. so L used only suf-
ticieut authority to establish the princi-
pies TO be taught that the space would
permit OF. The authority used was the
report Of the Monetary Committee ap-
proved by Congress III 1876, reported in
, 1877, and published in 1878. The copy
used had the date of its publication on
the cover, and that date was given In ac-
cordauce with the authority. 1t was
after wards changed TO read 1876.
. Inow read from the report the parag graph
! from which the abbreviated statement
, printed under the picture in the preface
was made. 1t begins with the last two lines
l on page 10, and is as follows: al the
Christian era the metallic money of the
Roman Empire amounted to 81 ,S0O, 600. 900.
Daring this period most extraordinary y
and banefui condition existed. Popula-
ton dwInGled, commerce, arts, wealth
and freedom all disappeared. The peo-
pie were reduced by poverty and misery
. TO the most degraded conditions Of serf-
l dom and slavery. The disinlegration OF
S society was almost complete. History
4 records no such disastrous transition as
that from the kouan Empire to the ia, /.
/ ages. Narlous explanations have been
s given OF this eutire breaking down of the
frame work OF society, but it was