The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1895-07-19
HwORR-HARVEY DEBATE.
Contestants Discuss the Crime
Of 1878"
THE FORMER DEFENDS CONGRESS.


Are as Honest as Che Average Citizen,
and Denies the Assertion That every
Man Has His Price"
CHICAGO, July 1Q.-In the third day Of
the HOrr. Harvey silver debate in the att
ditorium of the Illinois club the subject
under discussion was what Mr. Harvey
characterized as the Crime Of 1S53'-tho
decentralization of silver.
After some miscellaneous sparring Mr..
Harvey charged corruption in the passage
of the characterization of silver. Mr.. Horr,
In reply, repudiated the inference that
the citizens of the United States were all
corrupt and one of their women virtuous.
He declared that it was not true that
every man has his price. Members of con
Rress were as honest as the average citizen.
He (the speaker) knew whereof he spoke,
for he had been a member Of that body
himself. Mr.. Horr then took up the story
of the characterization act, and proceeded
to show the stages through which it had
passed, and that its final enactment was
not till after 1t had been before congress
for nearly three years.
Mr.. Harvey then returned to the attack
upon the honesty of legislators through
out the country, including congress and
the Illinois and Colorado legislatures.
This ~venality was %sapping the founda-
tions and destroyed every republic of he
past.
MIR. Horn again returned to the defense
of the honesty of the American people.
He said Mr.. Harvey merely picked out a
few corrupt men and drew from them the
proposition hat the people of the nation
were all corrupt. Why, if Mr.. Harvey
had lived in Jobs time he would have
looked over hat unfortunate mans sores
II would ave gone out and published
throughout the world that all Chaldea
was one immense c%arbuncle.
Mr.. Horn then, amid laughter, said he
would return to the question under dis
c%ussion, and proceeded with the story of
the decentralization of silver, pointing out
how the bill had been read in full several
times, and printed separately eleven times
and twice in the reports of the comptroller
of the currency. The debates in the SEN
ate on it occupied sixty-six columns in
The Congressional Record. In the report
of the committee it was stated that it had
been examined line by line and word by
word, and was finally passed. He would
show that in so doing the senate knew
what 1t was about.
Mr.. Harvey, in reply, said that Mr..
Horn would have to retreat from his posi-
ton when the proper time came. In point
of fact, the bill about which he had been
talking was not the bill finally passed.
Judge Kelly, in presenting the bill in the
house, said that it was merely a codifica-
ton of the mint laws. In response to a
question Judge Kelly replied that the bill
made no change in the value of the coins
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up again, it was spoken of as a bill on a
dry subject, and members lost interest.
1t was at that time that the first disclos-
ure of the intention to change the stand
ard to gold was made in a speech by Mr..
Hooper. But there is reason to believe
that the speech was not actually delivered,
but was printed by leave, or hat it was
read from manuscript, and those words
emitted. But nc reference was made to
the demonetization of silver. On the en-
rollment of the bill a clause was omitted,
which had the effect of limiting the coin
age of silver.
Mr.. Horn, replying, charged Mr.. Har-
vey with quoting a single sentence and
leaving out the modifying context. The
Record showed that this statement was
made in the morning debate, and was not
under leave to print. In the very speech
referred to by Mr.. Harvey the speaker said
this bill provided for a standard in a sin
gle metal, " instead Of, as before, in two
metals, and that all coins, except sub
sidiary coins, should be of gold.
Mr.. Horr then spoke on the demonetiza-
ton of silver in 1916, as the result of ex.
p~erience in the use of the double standard.
In 1871 Germany adopted the gold stan
dard and threw on the market $500, 00O,-
900 in silver. 1t was this that set the world
TO considering the silver question, not any
goldbug conspiracy. The financial policy
of nomination was never dominated by a
conspiracy.
This closed the debate for the day, ex-
cept the answering of questions by the dis
putants propounded by members OF the
audience.
The attendance was not so large, but
was appreciative and generous and i'm
partial in its recognition of telling points
On the request of Mr., Horn the furthe.
hearing of the debate was adjourned til
tomorrow afternoon.