The pioneer express. [volume] (Pembina, Dakota [N.D.]) 1883-1928, 1895-08-16
H0RR AND HARVEY.
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HIS Ideas O4 the Result.

Chicago. Hus.s.-rollowing 10 the sum
ming up Of the Horr-Harvey debate made
~ the principals themselves: The sum.
mary By Roswell @. Horr u - follows:
Tho object Of this debate Was to de-
eermine if 1t would be wise for our nation
to throw open its mlnts to the free coinage
Of silver at the ratio Of 10 to when the
civtlised nations Of the world refuse to join
ln such action. My opponent proposed to
prove that such course 10 advisable. and
undertook to do 1t on the lines laid down
IN Coins Financial School," denied the
advikahllity OF such action, and attacked
the teachings Of that book from che title
and how does the care stand!
Nj. Harvey admits that the buck ID pure
ection. He repudiates Its motto By dqclar-
Ing that II does rot mean what It 1ays.
HIS statement that primary money only 10
the measure Of va!re he has not even at
tempted to sustain, though his proof has
that the people OF the ffteelth and six.
tenth. centuries were In, the most s'de-
graded condition Of serfdom and slavery.
ON account Of tho lack Of metallic money
has been completely demallshed.
He based Ills whole argument on the
proposition that the silver dollar was in
l1S2 made the cnly unit or measure Of val
ue. have shown conclusively that our
forcfatbers attempted to estabiished bime.-
allism, and provided for two units of value,
one OF gold and one Of silver. always nam.
Ing gold drst, and that up to 1894 the sii.
yer standard alcne was used. That after
that the gold standard came into use, and
that since that the silver dollar has never
Tor day been used a. the measure of val.
ues In the United States. No nation has
ever succeeded In actually using two staud.
ards at the same time.
The Law Of ,7s.
Mr.. Harvey next based his case upon the
assumption that the law Of 1873 was q
crime. and stated that It had Its origin In
fraud and Its birth through bribery and
corruption. He planted himself upon four
propositions to prove his case:
First. he claimed that the congress Of
the United States was purchased; that the
passage Of the bill was procured BY the
money Of capitalists Of this and other ma.
tions. Secondly, he stated that the bill
passed both houses all right, and was
changed BY some clerk In its enrolment.
He next claimed that It was not changed
by clerk. but that the dirty work was
done In conference committee.
He then showed that none Of bis other
statements were true. but that the work
was done BY passing ''substitute BILL"
He introduced no evidence in support Of
either proposition. and he stands convicted
Of making every one Of those charges with.
cut any proof that would be received In
any ordinary court Of Justice. II the
congress Of the United States was bribed
drst passed In bad shape. Now. II that be
true. then there would be no need Of q
clerk to aid to do the dirty work. II It was
done by the enrolling clerk, then 1t follows
that congress passed the bill as 1t ought
to have been. and consequently they could
not have done what he says they were
bribed to do. Again. II congress passed
enrolled 1t correctly. then the bribery could
apply only to the members Of the confer
ence committee.
Production pf Cold.
Mr.. Harvey quotes the European geolosist
Suess to show that the world Gan produce
euly about As much gid as Ia required for
consumption each year outside u coinage.
He conceals the fact that 6uess wrote hts
essay several years ago. and that the pro-
9uction and coinage Of gold In the last
three years proves absolutely that Suess
was entirely wrong. The facts are that
during the last three years the world has
produced $47O,O0O.O0O Of gold. and during
those three years It has coined. exclusive Of
fecoinage. over eSS0.0O0,000. Mr.. Harvey
should have known these facts. Why did
he quote Suess when he should have known
that the actual facts proved the statements
ef Suess to be fa!se9
Mr.. Harvey endcavofed to prove decreas.
Ing wages 10 the United States since 1879.
He introduced only one statement In sup
port Of his position; that was the evidence
ef single man for one trade lq the city
pf Omaha. On the other hand. to prove
Investigation Of the United States commits.
lioner Of labor. ahd Mulhall. who show that
the average annual wages In manufacturing
Industries have risen from &2Ss In 1870 to
e5D for each person 10 1900
Unable to produce any table of wages
that shows a fall since 1870, Mr.. Harvey
In the latter pnrt of his debate tries to
Ing the original measure Of value human
toll was largely taken into calculation. DID
be succeed7 No.
American Indebtedness.
Mr.. Harvey gave the foreign indebted.
ness of this country a. more than three
fipes the real amount. He has been re.
peatedly called nl'on t9 tell when aud how
NOUS amount could have come without some
record Of the transaction. lie has utterly
failed to account for the arrival of this
yast sum; which iS confession that his
statement 10 groundless aud only used TO
miErGpresent the condition of this country.
His entire table Of debts IL composed Of q
doubling up Of real debts. and is a slander
on the actual condition Of the American
people.
Mr.. Harvey virtually admits that the &C.
tion which he proposes will put this nation
on silver basis ard drive gold out Of this
country. His statement that the gold dol
lar should lie cut down until Its value he
20 more than the commercial value OF the
silver In the standard dollar. Is q complete
admission of this point. Hence I have a
right to assume that his plan cOntemplates
such q result.
showed conclusively that this would
work injury to seventeen million people
who work fol wages. also showed that
the injury wogll extend to all pensioners.
savings and other hank dep9sItors, aud the
holders Of insurance policies, ageregatins
twelve million Of people. AMI to every per
son In the United states who has any money
eacept gold coin. What was Mr. Harvey's