Delaware gazette and state journal., 1895-12-19

Win Ihr. Carll6le, but did not speak
Of Mr.. Cleveland. Presently he said:
What do you think of Mr., Cleyeland?'
and | replied that IL Mr.. Cleveland
was candidate no was my choice all
the time But have no idea that Mr..
Cleveland will be candidate. have,
OF course, never spoken with him about
the matter, but | am quito sure that
be is not only not q candidate, but that
he has no inclination or desire to be.
The interview, though not submitted
to me before publication, was, how
ever, substantially correct, except as TO
one personal a!lusion. q
"How about Mr.. Whitneygr
II have always thought that Mr.
Whitney's all-round Democracy and his
splendid administration would make
him very strong candidate.
- have been Informed recently that
ne has said he would not take the
nomination if it was equivalent to an
election. But ] don't know this. Tho
truth is. am not very good hand at
forocasting.
Then the Senator wanted to know
what tho chances of tho different Re.
publican candidates were and he
seemed surprised 10 hear that Senator
Allison was showing so much strength.
81 thought when | went TO Europe
last summer, he said, THAT Harrison
would probably be the Republican
candidate The trouble with Allison
has always been that he is from State
which has been so strongly Republican
in Presidential elections. | would like
to see him nominated. He is very
able man. The great feature Of Mr..
Allison's career is his cautious con
servatism. You cen never get direct
committal from him. -
Reverting to the Republican Presi-
DENTAL candidates, Mr.. Gray said .
My ideal Of Republican candidate,
though, is Cushman X. Davis of Min
nesota. He is an emineDtly fair man,
scholar and a man Of fine intelli.
gence. The telegram no sent 10 some
strikers in his own State during the
Chicago riots was characteristic.
don't know, though, whether ii would
do him more harm or good il he were
nominated. was discussing the ques-
tion recently with some one who ex-
pressed the opinion that il would cost
him a great many votes, especially in
Illinois. But | hope he'll have a
chance TO mako the race, and you may
quote me as saying almost anything in
his praise.
Zone thing which / cannot bear is
what Is known as jingoism, - said the
Senator. Il believe that man should
not say of his country publicly what
he could not say of himself with
modesty and propriety. l think it in
quite as bad taste for a man to try to
bully England on the floor of the Sen.
ate as it would be for me to 20 ont into
my side yard and bully my neighbor
because | was stronger than he. The
lingo on the floor of the Senate always
rubs me the wrong way. y
GOSSIP ABOUT MEN.
The name of Senator Hoar came up
in the course of the conversation, and
| quoted his retort in debate with Mr..
Butler of South Carolina as an example
Of his capacity for being irritating.
Some one. defending Mr.. Butler from
Mr. Hoar's charge that he was impli-
Gated in the Hamburg massacre, had
said that in Mr.. Buffers veins flowed
the best blood of South Carolina, "I'm
not talking about tho blood in his
veins; I'm talking Of the blood on his
hands, said Mr.. Hoar, in his rasping
way; and it took the earnest persuasion
OF Mr.. Buffers friends to prevent a
personal encounter.
Hoar is very bright and witty"
said Mr.. Gray. ~ recall comment
he made to me wheG Jones of Nevada
was delivering one of his voluminous
silver speeches. We were sitting on.
posite each other, Mr.. Hoar and /, lis
tening TO tho speech. Mr. Jones had
gone back to the time of Abraham and
Isaac, and was working his way down
through tie ages, tracing the history
Of money. Presently he spoke of tho
nse of shells as money. Mr.. Hoar
leaned over toward me. That would
be very nice, he said. One could
order half dozen raw and pay for
them with the shells. y
Mr. Gray had spoken With some en-
lhusiasm of MI. Carlisle MS Presiden.
tial quantity. aslled If be believed
the Secretary of the Treasury was fully
qualified to fill the Presidential chair
God has given Nj. Carlisle fine
mind, " he replied. g Ills logic is as
clear as sunlight, and he is incapable Of
| sophistication. | have known him to
stop in an argument because he de-
tccted flaw in his own reasoning. /
have admired Mr.. Carlisle for many
years. His views on the tariff and on
finance have coincided with mine. His
| splendid mental equipment and Mr..
| Glrycland's intelligent courage have
won the fight against silver in the Dem.
ocratc party. y
suggested that Mr.. Carlisle in the
| White House would not have Mr.. Cleye-
| lands backbone, and referred to his
/ frtt
When that sueech was made ii the
House, said Mr. Gray, the question
| was between the compromise Bland
Allison bill and unlimited free coinage
at the ratio OF IL 10 |. Mr.. Carlisle
advocated and voted for thc Allison
| bill and vas against free coinage. lie
was for bmetallsn. and sail MANY
4 things in support Of his position which
he would not say now Every one who
! favored the Bland lison bin then be-
leyed that it's passage would restore
4 silver bullion Ia Il parity with guld
and it took the cSpcrience of Years 10
\ correct that notion. The issue had not
then been drawn as ii is drawn now.
/ between thr friends and enemies Of
sound money, Mr.. Carlisle had bot
considered tho question as thoroughly
| then rs he has since, and he frankly
said in his Louisville speech that lie
had modified many Of the views he ex.
pressed then.
ThE solUTGoN OF THE MONEY QUESTION.
Mr.. Gray says he has no specific solu
tion Of the financial difficulty TO pro.
pose to Congress.
1t viii be solved, he said. "when
| the government goes out of the bank
ing business, and when its abnormal
and misrhevdus relation to the supply
Of gol.l coin in tho country ceases .