New-York tribune., 1895-11-01
A TALK ON EXCISE TOPICS.
MR. ROOSEVELT AND MORRIS TEKULskf
EXCHANGE VIEWS.
THE LATTER SUGGESTS A LAW TO PUNISH bO /
ERs AS WELL. AS SELLERS OF LIQUOR on
sUNDAY-A HEARING BEFORE COM
MrrTEE OF THE ALDERMEN.


MIrTEE OF THE ALDERMEN. =
The Excise Committee of the Board OF Aldermen
had a meeting at the City Hail yesterday 10 he1r
suggestions about possible changes In the excise
law and President Roosevelt OF the Police Doa'u
was present by invitation 20 express his views al0
answer question: Morris TekulsNy. the former
president OF the Liquor Dealers Associatlo"' as
was spokesman before the committee Whe" w
Roosevelt was introduced by Alderman wines ne
spoke OF the attempts which had oeen maue ~
persons opposed TO the enforcement OF the eN.''
law to cast reproach upon the policemen WIN "N''0
as detectives In obtaining evidence.
THE terms spy and detective are synonymous
Mr. Roosevelt said. but some persons use u"e
word spy as a term OF repro@ch. III a po"ee"a''
In the garb of a civilian arrests gambler In rou'-
teenth-st. he is called detective. but II nc o.
saloonkeeper In Sixteenth-st. lot N'o,S -,
the excise law Sunday he Is called n spy ~
should be no hypocrisy in the enforcement OF any
law and the honest enforcement OF all laws S"o
be made easy" II,
Mr. Roosevelt then announced that he was reaus
to answer questions. and Alderman Nooha' W., W."
a show OF anger, which only caused derisNe 80.
ter struted out on the floor and said: oOJe.
TO having the chamber OF the Board OF AIue''"en
made an arena for political buncombe We are
here to discuss excise. and moi police me'hous.
Mr. Roosevelt smiled. and said he did not WIS"
10 step on anybody's corns. There was 'no'e 80,
ter and member Of the committee was saau
to inquire II Of Noonan's partchuei' nav
'pinched' lately
Alderman Noonan who Is a liquor-dealer' was
'hoppIng mad" and wanted TO know right ava ava
- II was necessary for the police TO wear picyce
suits or otherwise disguise them'eives '"he" '"''
went to get evidence against saoonKeepei' ,,.
Mr. Roosevelt looked hard at the htlie ~
man "a he replied: I'VE don't consult the WISHES
OF lawbreakers when we go about enio'o"e -
law Would you want us to send 'he po ,
uniform TO get evidence against iquor-uca'' a
sell on Sunday? We might as well sehu ''"''
band" U-augh;er) .a,,s
the law 50 as TO make the persons who ouy nauo'
on Sunday equally guilty with those VINO sen.
Mr. Rooseyel,--i never heard that point iai'eu
before. ,,o, ~
Mr.. Tekulsky-There Is already g. long
law against sending minors to buy liquor % 'o"e
as there s demand for liquor on sunday nsuu'
Will be sold sunday: Why nSt S TaRse saRsay W seller?
day O%gs %ga eSpa SSem 81 spS Il. wa s
Mr Roosevet-Excuse me but Swe,dnH we nay FOR iau5r
the law in the face fac h9 Of nd RuPG done hai would
not be here to protest against the e''io''''
Mr could not fsye ssoFfsh
wh9ui M hG not a' come here TO protest against the en-
forcement OF the law would Ike TO nave "'' 49,
s%fr 70 y association aided in the nts EN-
forcement of the law because the saies & O Oo, pay 70
had been cut down so nr mucn your question should
think that person who sent child 70 Dny
m
,han the nerson who sold the liquor AS 10 @ nol'o
a buyer guilty would be against any an
inc law which would increase the diIn,uis! hr,,
forcing the law. II is necessary TOT oHioe'' " '
LIQUOR in order to get evidence. l., ,,suced nv
Nr TekulsAy-The saloonkeeper is i induceu s os
the public 10 keep his place open for pusel , aloons no
SUNDAY II tha; were not the case the s"ou iouar
rouIJ he closed There saloons In the low, ,,
part OF the city which are always cioseu az M t snr
and on sunday because there IS TO PATRONAGE LOT
then al such times. II the law was suci as as 10 10
punish persons for buying liquor on ouinay n,.J rn.
would be no Sunday trade. ana the saioo'.S "Ju J,,
oil ha closed In Tennessee there was once law
OF iha; kind and the saloons were hii eioseu Oh
Mr. Observation-Disclosures saIoohhFepel 9oes
moi need 10 be tempted 10 keep open on Sunnas;
lie keeps open TO tempt poor men 10 dr'hA anu
spend their money I'm his saloon 49,. ,,..,so.
Mr.. Tekulsky-Such men shouli not nave "''"''9
10 sell LIQUOR any day. -. ,.,,.r
Mr. Roosevelt-If making the men VINO Duy HluuI..
on Sunday equally guilty with the mar VINO ss''s
nm tha, dav would make the law easier or en-
forcement | probably would favor such an aiIissnu
nent viii you also favor an amendment ny Whth
the blinds OF rquor stores shall be required 10 De
kept open on Sundays. and policemen De aho"eu
to enter AT arv time TO II the law Is being vo-
lated? Such an amendment also, would make the
law easier OF enforcement ,oo,
MIR Tekusky-I would. II the law was changed
so az to allow the sale OF lquo: after p m on
Mr. Roosevelt-Why not favor 1t anyhow. IL you
want the Law 10 be enforced" - -
Mr. Tekulsky-I would favor II ~ the buyer was
made equally guilty with the seller
After A few Aldermen had asked some questions
and had received replies from Mr.. Roosevelt ana
MIR Tekulsky the meeting OF the committee was
sky who had never met before. shook hands after
me meeting and had talk IN which they eX-
changed views with freedom and Ia an apparently
friendly manner