Evening star., 1895-03-20
SENATORIAL VIEWS
SENAIQKAE vlEWS
Mr.. Hale Thinks Minister Thurston
" the Wrong.
A BREACH pr OFFICIAL ETIQUETTE
Mr.. Frye Makes Some caustic
~comn1ents.
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OUR FoRE1 GIN AFFAIRS
OUR FoRE1 aN AFFAIRS

Senator Hale OF, Maine has been among
the most Jealous defenders of the Hawaiian
republic on the floor of the Senate, but
he does not support Mr.. Thurston In the
matter Of the minister's reported recall
at the instance of Secretary Gresham, on
the facts SO far as developed.
Il have no inside or exclusive informa-
ion." he said in discussing the matter
today, but the published reports say that
Mr.. Thurston's recall has been asked be-
cause he made public diplomatic corre-
spondence before submitting 1t to the
Secretary. If this Is correct he was clear
ly in the wrong and could not expect that
the Secretary would do otherwise than ask
for his recall.
'It was clearly a breach of official eti-
7quette, and is practice which this coun-
try cannot afford to encourage. There
might be times when such a course would
lead to serious consequences, and ii mat
ters Of international importance are to be
SO treated by the representatives of foreign
governments we might as well have no
State Department"
rs It not ossible" was suggested to the
Senator, that Mr.. Thurston's course was
dictated because he conceived that the ad-
ministratlon was antagonistic to his gov
ernment?"
THAT is possible, but it is no excuse. In
fact, If 1t be true that the administration
is averse to the Hawaiian republic that is
the best reason Thurston could have for
discreet conduct
Whatever the attitude of the administra-
ton, he is accredited to it, and should
treat It with becoming courtesy. 1 have
heard 1t suggested" continued the Senator,
that there was some prejudice on the
part Of the department toward Mr.. Thurs
ton because it Is believed there that the
minister has supplied Senators antagonistic
to the policy of this government III Ha-
waiian affairs with some of the facts used
in the debates in the Senate; but that fact.
if 1t be n fact, should cut no figure. The
department could ask nothing OF Alr
Thurston except courteous treatment at
his hands in his official dealings with the
department. 1t could have no supervision
over his intercourse with Senators"
Mr.. Hale added that he had formed
very high opinion Of Mr.. Thurston and
had come to look upon him as an entirely
fit man for the part he holds.
Il had hoped" he said, that nothing
more would happen to strain our relations
with the Dole government. for believe 1t
is a good government, and that the Ha-
waiians have republic which Is such In
fact as well as in name-not like these
Central American republics. including
Mexico, which are nothing but military
Mexics and sGuntepnln.
This diversion led tofa a discussion Of the
dispute between Mexico and Guatemala.
with that" said Senator Hale. I'VE have
no concern. # is a dispute between two
American states. and should say we could
do nothing except stand aside and allow
them to settle 1t as best they can, but l
believe in thoroughly vigorous American
policy, and I, for one, think Secretary Gres-
ham scored point when he made the de-
mand he did make upon Spain in the Alli-
anca affair. The people of this country
like that sort of thing and can always be
counted upon to- support demand for
reparation for an insult when such an incl
dent Is proved. to be such.
In case of "a war with Spain we should
certainly acquire Cuba, and that is a much
to-be-desired consummation."
The yehezaela Case.
Asked for his opinion concerning the re-
ported encroachments by Great Britain up
on Venezuelan territory, the Senator said
he had no doubt that England had been
pursuing her usual course of establishing
herself in Venezuela, and he added that he
believed 1t to be case for the interposition
American power" he added, land should
make the fact known in all cases where
the European nations attempt to interfere
with affairs of this continent"
A SMALL PIECE OF BUSINESS.
Senator Frye's Opinion on the De-
mand for Mr.. Thurston's Recall.
'If the Hawaiian government can put up
with Minister Willis, think this govern
ment might easily overlook such trivial
matter as that which was made an excuse
for Minister Thurston's dismissal" said
Senator Frye of Maine to Star reporter
today. 1T looks to me like very small
piece of business. AS I understand the
matter Mr.. Thurston did not give out to
the press official communications, but the
information which he impaired to the
newspaper men was q summary of news
conveyed to him by private letter.
II think that Secretary Gresham's dis
pleasure with the minister2 dates to a time
anterior to this occurrence, however. 1
think that Minister Thurston's famous re-
ply to Blount started the trouble, and 1
think that Mr.. Thurston was absolutely
right in that reply to Blount. The admin
istration did not like it, and they have felt
resentful to Mr.. Thurston ever since"
MIR. THURsTON AND THE PRESS.
The Minister Charged With Inspiring
Attacks on the Administrations.
1t was learned rather late this afternoon
that the Hawaiian minister is accused. in
addition to the giving out Of facts. of hav-
ing instigated the publication of newspaper
articles in New York papers attacking the
administration. 1t is held that this brings
his case on all fours with the celebrated
Catacazy case, which caused SO much COM
motion during the administration of Presi-
dent Grant.
Catacazy was the Russian minister here,
and 1t had been clearly shown by the testi-
mony of the newspaper men concerned
that he had furnished the substance for
articles published in the New York World
attacking the foreign policy of the admin
istration and criticising bitterly the atti-
tude of the United States toward Russia
then involved In a serious dispute with
Great Britain. .
The minister specifically denied RESPONSE
bility for the public stfon, although it was
indubitably brought home to him and
shown that he had revised the manuscript
before it was snpr1nted.1 There were other
grievances against TIE minister, growing
out of allegati6hs of Immoral conduct and
improper attitude foFard the Perkins
claim, then pehding, although these mat
ters were not-made .tha ground OF official
complaint.
On June IS .secretaty Fish, by direction
of President Grant, directed our minister
to Russia, Mro1Curtil, ITO inform the Rus
sian government that the conduct of Mr.
Catacazy. both officially and personally,
has been for some time past such as to
impair his usefulness to his own govern
ment and to render intercourse with him
either for business or social purposes high
ly disagreeable.
is of the opinfbn that the interests Of both
countries would be promoted and relations