The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-19
VICTORY WAS
BLOODLESS.
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Fundamental Change of Policy.

want to go back step. There
lore it seemed to him the par
OF prudence to take every pre-.
caution. Every party pledge would b.
fulhlled by separate submission. Thos
VINO say the constitution will carr!
anyway should remember that a fun
damental change of policy is being
maze by some 53 members of the con
Vent1on. Nothing would be lost by let
ting the people settle the question.
Laid on the Table.
Thurman and Roberts claimed thu
floor and the former was recognized
He moved to lay the motion to recon
slider on the table There was a pro
test against this shutting off of debate
put the motion carried by vote o.
65 to 35
The suffragist leaders were congratu
lating themselves that the battle wa:
over. Thurman and Chidester wer;
talking over on the south side of the
hall. Matters had settled down pretty
we'll when Evans. of Utah, arose anC
moved to take the motion from the
table. He said he did not want it hang.
ing over the convention any longer. AL
most before the members could catch
the idea the motion was put and car
RED. Debate was limited to Is minutes
under the motion.
Opposition Had Developed.
Roberts said he did not want to re-
open the debate. But in the former
discussion the other side had asked,
where are the petitions against suf-
frage or for separate submission.
There were none then. Now Is, 366
people have petitioned for separate
submission. He did not think the
convention could afford to ignore the
Of 10
It is a question of making thousands
of votes against the constitution. 1t
is useless to say these votes will not
go against the constitution. He be-
neved, if submitted separately, woman
suffrage will be defeated. He did not
believe even the constitution would
carry it. If there was so much GER
tainty about it there could be no OBJ
lection to submitting it separately.
Hammond said that if woman suf-
frage were not included in the consti-
tuition thousands will vote against it.
Utah is no spring chicken. 1t is a
full grown matron, and people will
break their backs to get it into the
union.
James Warns Up.
James said petitions for separate
submission had come from places all
over the territory. He read the list of
places.
Hammond-How many have you
from San Juan?
James-We didn't reach there.
Hammond thought not.
James-No. About all of San Juan
seems to be in this city right now.
Naughter.)
Spontaneous Expression.
Roberts-These petitions come with
out organization behind them, do
they not?
James@They do.
Roberts-Then they are the spon-
taneous expression of the people.
James-That is what I say.
Thurman-Were not all these pc
titions for separate submission sent
out from one place?
James (hastily)-I don't know.
James continued that minorities
have rights. 1t is wrong to shut off
American citizens and dictate how
they shall vote. If a majority wanted
woman suffrage, all right. But he did
not want it choked down his throat.
Evans of Weber. said separate sub
mission would bring up all the bitter
nesses of the past. The idea simply
cloaked an attempt to defeat woman
suffrage.
Roberts-Have we not the right to
endeavor to defeat suffrage?
Evans-Yes.s But it would bring up
all the bitterness of the past.
A Voice-Won't that come up any
way? =,
patriotic. We will be loyal to the con-
stitution.
WINS Denies spontaniety.
WINS said he wanted to reply to
the assertion that these petitions came
as the spontaneous voice OF the PEG
pIe. He had learned that the people
of washington who signed them did
not know where they came from and
signed them under a Misrepresentation.
They had nothing to guide them ex-
cept the typewriter slip. -.
Roberts (warmly)-They had the
petitions.
Chidester said he wanted to close the
debate.
Debate is over.
President Smith pounded his desk
and called loudly for order. He gave
Chichester one minute.
Nearly a Row.
Chidester said that gentleman
James,, in pleading for the minority,
eft out the majority. He wanted the
minority to run things.
James dumping up hastily and
speaking hotly)-I didn't say anything
Of the kind.
Up my time.
James-Well you shouldnt make
such statements.
A dozen voices-Time!
Chichester (hotter than ever)-When-
ever the gentleman gets up he cries
The President-Time's up.
Chidester-I claim minute to close
The debate.
bate closed Shut him off! Votel
yotei
The President bounding his desk)-
rhe gentleman has one minute to
,lose.
The Vote That Settled 1t.
Chidester closed with a reiteration of
he rights of the majority and the vote
vas taken on the motion TO recon-
slider. 1t was killed by the following
7o:e:
Ayes = Adams. Bowdle, Button,
Clark. Cushing Ed Eidredge, Goodwin
Kiesel, Keith, Kearns, Lund. Mackin-
osh, Moritz, Murdoch of Summit,
Page, Peterson of Grand Peterson of
Sanpete, Pierce, Roberts, Ryan, Sharp,
spencer, Squires. Slower, Strevell, Van
Horn, Varan-S2.
Noes = Allen, Anderson, Barnes,
Boyer, Brandley, Buys, Call, Cannon,
>hidester, Christensen, Coray. Cart |
nan, Crane, Greer, Cunningham,
Driver, Emery, Engberg. Evans of
Utah. Evans of Weber. Farr, Francis,
iibbs. Hammond, Hart, Halliday,
ieyborne, Howard, Hughes, WINS,
Johnson, Jolley, Kerr Kimball of Salt |
lake, Lambert, Lauritz Larsen, c. P.
larsen. Lennon, William Lowe, Peter |
.owa LOW of Cache MaaSar Ma lnrot, |