The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-07-19

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CHICAGO. July 1S.-It was knife to
the hiIt today in the Horr-Harvey en-
counter.
Mr. Horr opened MP the sharp work
right at the start. He said his OPP
ponent stated: 'NIr. Horr has only
taught in this debate a proposition that
>Gs IN the interest Of every money-1ender
Sn the world TO advocate, and he is
here advertising it."
Poses as u Poor MINIS Friend.
Z say to my opponent now that
am not money-lender. have not
collar's interest in any banking in
st1tution or American corporation or
any other corporation on the face OF
the earth have spent MY entire Life
in working for a living; all the early
part of that life was spent in hard
work on a small farm ! commenced
working for my self at SO a month.
There is hardly any kind Of LARD man.
s1ai labor in which 1 have not at some
time in my life engaged. consequently
my sympathies are with the people
VINO live by toll. 1 never meet man
rigging in a trench bat that I feel like
aIaking eff my hat to him, because l
ysonce dug bitches for living. L never
meet a brakeman or a Daggageman
without feeling kindly toward him, be-
cause for months [ was brakeman on
a freight train night and day, and nay
first, promotion to bagga gemasuer was
8 one of the proudest moments OF my
~ life. applause.
DOdging the Issue.
'T come into this debate for the pur-
pose of defending the interests, as my
{ friend Will learn before l finish it, OF
81 tie men Who live by honest toll. Gap
plaIze) I do not think it is anything
against man if he even becomes
stockholder in a national bank l am
informed, Brother Harvey, that your
father is fortunate enough 10 own
stock IN the Kanawha National bank.
Am I ri1nt about that?'
Mr.. Harvey-No sir, he does not.
Mr.. Horr-Did he ever?
Mr. Harvey-Never did.
Mr.. Horr-Well, it would not hurt
him if he had, would it?
Mr. HarVey-No sir.
Mr.. Horr-He can own stock in the
bank and still keep honest?
MIR. Harvey-Yes.
- Wages or Workingmer.
Mr.. Horr-A man could be successful
5h life without creating in me any
spirit of envy. I have learned that
men who accumulate money and invest
It in building up great Industries for
the beue1it of the people VINO earn
wages bless this nation. and any sys-
TEN which Injuries them necessarily
iGjures the people who live by daily
coil Consequently. am just as zeal
Gus in my efforts TO prevent financial
disaster to the business men Of this ma
ton as I am 10 see to it that the wages
Of the working men are not cut in two
by using a debased and deprecated
measure Of values. (Applause9 When
you divide the unit OF measurable
value of it-intO the two pieces and
make them take the half for the
whole, you have injured them in way
tpat is beyond computation.
Net n bad Man.
Mr.. Harvey-I did not mean to crit
,-sicize Mr.. Horr personally. That he
2 was an advocate of q. pernicious prin-
&sciple does not mean that Mr. Horr
81 himself was a bad man. This great
Aauestion Is not going TO be decided by
n the American people by any advocate
parading himself before them as being
Z horny-fisted workingman at any
time III his life LOng continued ap-
plause.) ] do not object 50 M. Horr
giving the evolution Of his life l do
think II was little unfair to have
omitted in that evolution that he fin
not deny that Mr.. Horr and numerous
other bank presidents have at one
time been tillers of the soil
Mr.. Horr-In reference to my hav-
ing been a Bank president, I omitted
It, not because I was asham ID Of the
fact. It is true that at one time l had
saved what we in some Dlaces-not
IN this city-w0uld call a competency.
and 1 was a president Of national
bank In the crash Of 1873. 1 went
down. What l had saved was swept
irom under me- Ny position as presi-
dent of TIE bank 1 resigned; hut [ did
not steal any money of the h TX, not
a dollar l went into the world again
single-handed and went to work. and
while putting in logs in the northern
part of Michigan, ] was nominated for
CONGRESS and sent there. served six
wears of my life and did the hardest
work ever did during those SIX years.
I came out of Congress jpst as poor
as I vent In; ] could not come ,ur
any poorer, it was an impossibility.
IT,aughter) Mr.. Harvey is facetious
A,aecause have stated that the money
ffs,estion has given me the headache.
] I'D state that, but mark you, it was
thu study of the question p. hich made
my head ache, nor writing such stuff
as IL this book. I-at would not give
any man the headache.
Crime of 1873.
Mr. Horr continued to argue the act
OF 1878 was prepared after submitting
the question 70 large number of ex-
peTts all syer the country. We lad
never had a revision of the mint laws
FOR = number of years and the men
in charge of the mint thought the
time had Come when something should
be dope. Among the men consulted on
the question were Mr.. Boutwell, the
secretary Of the treasury; Mr.. Knox,
I5ouIy comptrolie- OF the currency;
= Linderman, director of the mint;
Parsons, superintendent Of the
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