New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-09-21
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EAGERTO GET THAT TROPHY
ANOTHER ENGLISH CHALLENGER FOR
THE AMERICAS CUP.
CHARLES ROSE. OF LONDON. FORMERLY WELL
KNOWN r,,RFMAN. CABLES THE CUP CON-
MIrTEE AN INTIMATIoN OF HIS INTENTION
TO TRY NEXT YEAR. THE MATCH TO
RE SAILED ON CONDITIONS FAVOR


TO TRY NEXT YEAR. THE MATCH TO
BE SAILED ON CONDITIONS FAVOR
ABLE TO THE COMMITTEE"
Notice OF a new challenge for the Americas
Cup was received yesterday by ex-Commodore
James d. Smith, chairman Of the Cup Commit
tee OF the New-York Yacht Club. The new
challenger is Charles Rose, Of London. England
Of Sir John Rose. and a sportsman OF wealth
and high social position Mr.. Rose has been oetr
ter known In the past as racing man than as .
yachtsman, having been for years member OF
the Jockey Club Of England and the owner OF
number Of horses. He is also member OF
the Royal Yacht Squadron. and ne recently pur-
chased the yacht Satanta with the declared In
tenton of abandoning the turf and devotns
Of his time TO yachting.
The message which Mr.. Rose sent to Mr..
Smith by cable yesterday was regarded by
yachtsmen who were in town as a declaration
of intention to challenge in the name OF the
Royal Yacht Squadron. 1t could not be consid-
cred as a formal challenge which must be sent
from the squadron In due form to the New-York
Yacht Club. When the formal challenge is re-
ceivcd 1t will be acted on by the entire club. not
by the Cup Committee. but the notice 10 the
chairman Of the committee may be taken as 9
bar to the consideration Of another challenge fol
the Americas Cup before the challenge Of Mr
Rose can be considered.
MR. SMITHS ANNOUNCEMENT.
Ex-Commodore Smith. who has all along pooh
poohed the idea that 1t was "all over with the
Americas Cup" delighted when he received
the message. He received the news py cable
early in the afternoon. 1t came from Mr.. Rose
at No 80 Hi-st. Berkeley Square. London. In
speaking of the challenge. Mr.. Smith said:
"A new challenge for the Americas Cup has
been received for a match to be sailed next year
on conditions satisfactory to the Americas Cup
Committee Observe the quotations. 1t came
by cable this afternoon to the Americas Cup
Committee from Charles Rose. No. 80 Hill-st..
Berkeley Square, London. Mr.. Rose is member
Of the Jockey Club of England and of the Royal
Yacht Squadron.
THE challenge although somewhat informal.
has been handed over to the New-York Yacht
Club which will receive II to-day and 1t will be
repeated to the club by Mr.. Rose In the regular
form by ca BILE at once.
Mr. Smith declared with emphasis tnat he was
wholly through with the Dunraven incident and
was heartily weary OF II. Precisely speaking, ne
said OF this: Il am out OF all that and am about
exhausted with interviews. | wish TO say TINS.
however: haven any unkind feeling toward any
yachtsman the earth or below IL, nor any
vachtsman above the waves or beneath them.
without defining what he meant by true
"yachtsman" Mr.. Smith hurried into ms inner
office in a perfect halo OF goodwill toward man
kind now that the America s Cup had got cnai-
lenRe within the ten months prescribed by the
conditions Of the cup contest
DIsPLEAsED WITH DUNRAvEN.
y,chtsmcn OF the city who were informed Of the
new challenge late In the afternoon declared tnat
the haste to issue 1t Immediately after the uh-
satisfactory ending OF the match pet"sen s,S tne
Defender and the Valkyrc indicated that Enshsn
yachtsmen were not pleased with the action OF
Lord Dunraven and wanted 70 snow AnerIeais At
that his feeling not shared by otner members
OF the Royal Yacht Squadron The notice that
the race next year would be sailed "on conditions
satisfactory to the Americas cup Co',,h'tree p
vas taken in some quarters to mean that MI Rose
would he willing to have the race over the course
on which former challenging yachts have sailed .,
II was ascertained last evening that nearly AZ
- tho nrominent members Of the New YORK facht
club were out Of the city, and they prooapiy were
Ignorant Of the latest challenge ;. Nicho.son
Kane, who had been In the city carry III lhe a,.es
noon had gone to Newport too soon to hear OF
the challenge A. Cass Garfield and j. l.. busk
were also in Newport Commodore r. NJ Brown
Irving Grinnell, J. Frederick rams ana a.. one1 IT,
Griswod were known to be out OF the city. Inc
only official of the New-York Yacht Club VINO was
at the clubhouse in Madison-ave. last evening
was J. V. S. Oddie, the secretary OF the cIuo'
Oddie had called at the office OF ex-Commooore
smith in the afternoon and had been informed
of the message which Mr.. Smith had received.
CHAT WITH SECRETARY ODDIE.
To Tribune reporter who saw him at the CLUB
house last night. Mr.. oddie said:
"Mr Smith this afternoon mentioned TO me
that he had received a challenge from Mr.. Rose
for the Americas Cup, addressed to the Cup
Committee but beyond that plain statement VI
fact I can tell absolutely nothing
The challenge is yet INFORMAL Is II ho'' "s
asked ,.,
nation that it is Mr. Roses intention TO cnaliehse
FOR the cup and 1t will be necessary to walt for
"Wiil the New-York Yacht Club hold special
meeting to consider the challenger
II should think so, but that Will depend upon
the exgencies OF the case. The next regular
meeting of the members Is October "A, ana l
should imagine that the question OF calling
special meeting will depend altogether whetner
Mr.. Rose communicates with the ciuo py ie''er
or cable"
so quickly as IL does upon the recent fiasco indi-
Gates that English yachtsmen do not altogether
relish Lord Dunravens action IN not s'ar''ns '"e
Valkyrie in the last race
To this inquiry Mr. Oddie smilingly answered:
We'll you ought to be the best judge OF that
But the short time that has been allowed to
eapse between the Defender-Vakyrie races and
this challenge would seem to imply that such
feeling OF dissatisfaction exists
II can say nothing about that Mr.. Oddie re-
piled. and he added: You must draw your own
conclusions I don't draw any
THEY WANT 1T BADLY.
But they seem to want the cup badly. do they
not?" was the next suggestion. and to this Mr..
Oddie readily acquiesced.
do you think that the Defender Will be deemed
fast enough to compete with the new challenger,
or will another yacht be put upon the s'oChs'
Mr. Oddie was asked
That cannot say: you know any one is at
liberty II disposed, 10 build yacnts TO compete
IN m. trial races But my opinion is that the De-
fender has not been raced yet. and we have still
10 see what she Is capable OF doing at her best.
"stili. in the face OF the fact that the English
are now fully acquainted with the Defender and
know her sail area and dimensi Ons. and as they
have fairly good grounds for deduc!ng her capa-
bilities. and so In all PROBABILITY nsure on,
better boat does Il not strike you probable that
we shall be called upon to build another boat even
better than the Defender"
well. you see we have year In which to get
at the bottom Of all these matters. To my per-
sonal knowledge we have been building yachts