The Independent. [volume] (Honolulu, H.I.) 1895-1905, 1895-12-23
he said nothing which indicated

thought ne was ureamluE or spy;
when he spoke about 1900 ulen IN
Hilo / knew he was fool, aud |
felt sure he must be spy
f. II. Hayselden stated: | reside
at Lanai, Lahaina, and in Honolulu;
l have seen defendant Underwood;
| saw him at the Hawaiian Hotel
in Honolulu; he sent his card to me;
l went upstairs and saw him; he
told me he was interested in colo
nization scheme, and desired to see
me in regard so Lanai; as was
going away referred him To my at
torney, Mr.. Neumann; / saw him
again on Alakea street; Mr., Neumann
told me that proposition had been
made by Underwood, and thought |
had better see him; l did; he claim
cd that he could raise capital to buy
my property if certain concessions
could be given, more especially the
granting OF lottery franchise; [
told him that there were no pros
poets OF getting franchise; he sug-
gested the possibility OF a change in
government; he asked me il /
thought it might be granted if the
Queen was restored; | told him pos
sioly yes and possibly no; he
thought the restoration of the
Queen was feasible; the feeling OF
the Hawaiians ADD a large number
OF foreigners were opposed to the
Government; he mentioned no
names OF any eventual co-operators;
| have had no conversation with
! Sheridan, although | have been in.
troduced to him by Underwood; he
also came to Neumann's house TO
see me; | saw him in the dark on
the verandah; he referred to the
same matter as Underwood; he said
he could procure means, that mon
eyed men would advance capital but
it was necessary to have the conces-
sious OF the lottery franchise first;
he spoke nearly identically the same
as Underwood; this conversation
took in the latter part OF November
Gross examined: There was no
proposition made to me in regard to
acquiring property; L took no stock
in his statement at all; | thought
they tried to get me into hole aud
| really took them to be government
spies; nothing was offered to me; |
cannot fix the day of my first inter
view with Underwood; | cannot re-
cognize the man who spoke to me
on Neumann's veranda it was too
dark; he called himself Sheridan.
f. w. Weed stated: I live on
School street; have seen defendant
Sheridan; he came into the store
about six weeks ago; he introduced
himself as Mr.. Sheridan; he started
talking political matters to me; |
told him, knew nothing about poll
tics; he asked me who would be the
best people to approach for revo-
lutionary purposes, aud asked me il
had any arms; he referred to his
partner; nobody was present at our
conversations; he stated that they
had come here to overturn the gov
ernment; told him the best person
to go to would be Sam Nowlein.
4 tLaughter.) He came to me about
ten days later and told me he was
going to Lahaina; he wanted to bor-
row money for his passage; | gave
him none; he told me he was going
to Hawaii to take Hilo; defendant
told me his name was Morrow, and
showed me an article in the S. f.
Chronicle of August 18th, referring
to him; | have not seen him since;
this first interview with him was
about week before | saw Marshal
Brown; | have been prosecuted one
year ago for conspiracy.
Cross examined: The interview
took place in the Golden Rule Ba
zaar in the morning; we had about
four interviews; at the first inter
view he asked me how strong the
government was; he asked me if |
knew where to get guns; this was in
the morning. There was nobody
else in the store; two ladies came in;
| do not recollect who they were;
the boy was in the store dusting;
couple of days after he came
again; he wanted me to give him re-
ferences to some people to go to;
| said | knew OF none except the
people who had been arrested dur
ing the last revolution; these three
interviews were in one week; the
last time / saw him was when he
wanted to borrow money; since then
he did not come again.
} Dr. Tucker stated: | reside in
Honolulu; arrived here on the 4th
of Nrvember; / have seen defen-
dants; saw them on board the bark
S. G. Wilder in San Francisco in Oc-