Staunton vindicator. [volume] (Staunton, Va.) 1860-1896, 1895-07-12

responsible for MIR. Payne not having told
the truth.
Q-What do you mean? Al mean this
that Mr.. Paynes statement now is different
from what it was to Mr.. Morris.
Q-IIow do you know? Did you hear the
statement to Mr.. Morris? A-Mr. Morris
gave 1t to me, and l heard Mr.. Payne say he
did give that to Mr.. Morris.
Gas a matter of fact, however, all you
put in this article was a statement made to
you by another man of what Payne made to
him? Al know more than that I know a
large part Of the money had been paid by
Massey.
Q-And on the strength of that information
you would state as a positive fact, as you
have stated it here - A-No, sir, 1 would
not. 1 said it was my positive belief.
DIN that respect you would vary the Ian
guage of this statement. would you? A-No,
1 don't know that 1 would. What have
written l have written.
Q-Would you have written what you wrote?
A-Y es sir, would write it over again.
Q-Just as it is? Al might make some
changes in it.
Q-Then you wouldn't write it over again
as it is? A-No, might en- nance the phra.
seology of it.
Q-Would you qualify any statement you
made here as fact? A-There are some l
would qualify and one would omit entirely,
Q-What is that? A-Dropping off Reed
& Kellogg's grammar was mistaken about
that will state that that is one of the things
/ would have left out. was mistaken about
that particular fact.
Q-Would you put in that about Mr.. Mas
sey and Mrs. Massey some months before they
were married taking trip to Mexica? Al
think would omit that also.
Owe come now to this about the Reed &
Kellogg's grammar. "When Massey surren-
dered to thetrust in 1890, he put off such books
as Reed Il Kellogg's grammers and substitu-
ted.a very inferior trust book, Harvey's gram
mar ond Longs language lessons" Why
would you leave out the statement about his
substituting a trust book ? A-Because it is
not true as matter of fact. was mistaken.
L understand Longs language lessons and
Harvey's grammar were already on the list.
Q.--Did Mr.. Massey put off Reed & KEEL
logg's grammar? Al have stated three or
four times that he did not 1 was mistaken
about that. will state it again.
Odd he substitute very inferior trust
book. Harveys grammar? Ale did not
but he kept Harveys grammar on the II ew
list. and believe it is a very inferior book.
Q.--You state here again ''But unfortu-
nately for the publishers of the Graphics in
the Summer of 1891 Massey again came within
the zone of Womack's influence. AS before
stated, he was found travelling during that
Summer in Canada with Womack and Il. l..
Edwards, the indicted agents Of the trust.
His return for the junket was circular issued
soon after his return home" Will you state
whether OF not by that language "his return
for the junket was the following circular is
sued soon after his return home," you meant
that that junket was the trip to Canada? A.
Yes meant by that the trip to Canada.
Odd you mean by that that he was offer
ed trip to Canada in consideration of the
fact that he would issue that circular? A.
l believe all that statement.
Odd you mean, say. Al meant by
that statement that Mr.. Womack paid MI,
Massey's travelling expenses, and in return
for that favor this change was made.
Q.--Had you any evidence of that fact? A..
Il had the statement of Massey's wife that
Womack paid the expenses.
Odd she make that statement to YOU :?
A.--No, sir.
: Q.-How, then, did you have it? Al
know of it-and we are ready to prove it,
SIT.
Q.-Very we'll, sir, who made that state
ment to you? Al heard it, sir. Ican't re-
member who told me now, but it was common
these book matters.
Q.-Who were those people? A--Well,
sir, they were great many people, various
agents and other people that have come in
contact with at various times.
Q.--Then l understand you to say yon be-
lieved and therefore published that Mr.. Wo-
mack paid Mr.. Massey's travelling expenses
to Toronto? Ayes, sir; had other rea-
sons than the mere fact that believed Mr..
Womack paid Mr.. Massey expenses. Iknew
he had been indicted for bribery, that MI.
Massey knew it, and 1 thought 1t was an ex-
traordlnary thing that Massey should be
with man who had been indicted
for trying to bride similar officer in the
State of Washington.
Q.-How did you know Mr.. Womack had
been indicted? A.-Because had copy of
the indictment.
Q.-Did you see any part of the record in
that matter at that time? Al only had the
Indictment, but l did hear, don't think at
that time--perhaps later-I didn't know any
thing about the Indictment being dismissed.
7 ooh, in n y,la IF
and they dismissed him on that plea.
Q.-How did you hear that? Al didn't
hear it at the time l wrote this article. |
heard it since.
Q.--Where did you hear 1t? Al think
Mr.. Wise told ME.
Q.-How did you get that copy of the in
dictment? Al got the copy of the indict-
ment from Senator Flood. He furnished me
with copy.
Odd you not before publishing this
article make any attempt to find out whether
except the indictment Al did not write
out there until afterwards.
o. want to know when the fact of its
dismissal came to your attention? A.-Not
until considerable time after writing the ar
ticle.
Odd you at any time after that make
any public qualification of your staten ent in
regard to Mr.. Womack as an indicted bri-
Der? Al did not.
Q--And you never made any disclaimer
such as might have been bas ed upon the
information you subsequently got? A.--No,
| never did.
Q.--What particular books were you then
seeking to have placed upon the list at tn e
meeting to be held March 18th, 1891? Al
was trying to have Tarbell's Language Les
sons put on the eclectic or alternate list.
Q.--Was that all! Was that your only
object i? Al might have said something
about Montgomery's histories--I believe
Judge Rhea did, but our desire was to get
Tarbelps Language Lessons on the list.
MD VIZ, know at that tima that tharn