Reporter and farmer. [volume] (Webster, Day County, Dakota [S.D.]) 188?-1946, 1895-08-15
HORR AND HARVEY.
SUMMARIES OF THE RECENT SILL
YER DEBATE.
Eacn of the Participants Reviews
the Discussion Which Was Car
ried ON for Ten Days, and Gives
His Ideas OF the Result.

Chicago. Aug.s.-FoIlowIng is the sum-
ming up Of the Horr-Harvey debate made
by the principals themselves: The sum
mary by Roswell g. Horn is as follows:
The object Of this debate was to de-
termine IL It would be wise for our nation
10 throw open its minis to the free coinage
OF silver at the ratio Of 16 70 1 when the
Civilized nations Of the world refuse to join
iD such action. My opponent proposed to
prove that such course Is advisable, and
undertook to do 1t on the lines laid do xn
In Coins Financial School" l denied the
ACCESSIBILITY of such action, and attacked
the teachings of that book from the title
page to Its close. The debate is finished,
and how does the case stand?
MIR. Harvey admits that the book Is pure
action. He repudiates its motto by declar-
Ing that 1t does rot mean what 1t says.
His statement that primary money only Is
the measure Of value he has not even at
tempted to sustain, though his proof has
been called for repeatedly. His statement
that the people Of the ffteerth and six
uGnth centuries were In the most "de-
graded condition Of serfdom and slavery"
on account OF the lack of metallic money
has been completely demolished.
He based his whole argument on the
proposition that the silver dollar was m
lTSZ made the only unit or measure Of val
ue. 1 have shown coDclusively that our
forefatbers attempted to established bimet-
aiitsm and provided for two units Of value.
'one OF gold and one of silver, always nam
Ing gold first, and that up 10 1894 the sill
yer standard alone vas used. That after
that the gold standard came into use, and
that since that the silver dollar has never
for a day been used as the measure Of val
Hles in the United States. No nation has
ever succeeded In actually using two stand
ards at the same time.
The Law of '73.
Mr.. Harvey next based his case upon the
assumption that the law OF 1873 was a
crime. and stated that 1t had its origin In
fraud and its birth through bribery and
corruption. He planted himself upon four
propositions to prove his case:
First, he claimed that the congress of
the United States was purchased; that the
passage of the bill was procured by the
money of capitalists of this and other ma
tions. Secondly, he stated that the bill
passed both houses all right, and was
changed by some clerk in its enrolment.
He next claimed that 1t was not changed
by a clerk, but that the dirty work was
done In conference committee.
He then showed that none OF his other
statements were true. but that the work
was done by passing a Substitute bill"
He introduced no evidence in support OF
StJneF prOpOSlttOl, ana ne SldDuS COnNICltu
of making every one Of those charges with
out any proof that would be received in
any ordinary court of justice. IL the
congress Of the United States was bribed
to pass a bad bill, then the bill must have
first passed In bad shape. Now, IL that be
true, then there would be no need OF a
clerk to aid to do the dirty work. If it was
done by the enrolling clerk, then 1t follows
that congress passed the bill as it ought
t. have been, and consequently they could
not have done what he says they were
bribed to do. Again, If congress passed
the bill all right and the enrolling clerk
enrolled 1t correctly, then the bribery could
apply only to the members of the confer"
enCe committee.
Production of Gold.
Mr.. Harvey quotes the European geolGgist
Suess to show that the world can produce
OuIy about as much gid as Is required for
consumption each year outside II coinage.
He conceals the fact that SuesS wrote his
essay several years ago, and that the pro-
duction and coinage OF gold in the last
three years proves absolutely that Suess
was entirely wrong. TIL facts are that
during the last three years the world has
produced $470,0 00,O00 of gold, and uuring
those three years ii has coined, exclusive OF
recoinage. over $3.50, 900, NM Mr.. Harvey
should heve known these facts. Why did
he quote Suess when he should have known
that the actual facts proved the statements
OF Suess to be false?
Mr.. Harvey endeayored to prove decreas-
ing wages In the United States since 1875.
He introduced only one statement In sup
port Of his position; that was the evidence
of a single man for one trade In the city
of Omaha. On the other hand, to prove
that they are advancing, / introduced the
Investigation of the United States commits
-,.un, "A Nahar and MuIhalI uhn ShnNu that
the average annual wages in manufacturing
industries have risen from S2SS in 1870 to
$3.50 for each person in 1890.
Unable TO produce any table Of wages
that shows a fall since 1870, Mr.. Harvey
in the latter part of his debate tries to
show the falsity OF my position that in fix
ing the original measure of value human
toll was largely taken into calculation. Did
he succeed? No.
American Indebtedness.
Mr.. Harvey gave the foreign indebted
ness of this country as more than three
tines the real amount. He has been re-
pcatedly called upon to tell when aud how
that vast sum reached us. No such enor-
nous amount could have come without some
record of the transaction. lie has utterly
failed to account for the arrival of this
vast sum; which Is a confession that his
statement Is groundless and only used 10
misrepresent the condition Of this country.
His entire table OF debts is composed Of a
doubling up OF real debts, and Is a SANDER
on the actual condition of the American
people.
MIR. Harvey virtually admits that the ac-
tor which he proposes will put this nation
on a silver basis ard drive gold out of this
country. His statement that the gold dol
lar should be cut down until Its value I've
no more than the commercial value Of the
silver In the standard dollar, is a complete
admission Of this point, Hence ! have a
right to assume that his plan c~ontcmpiates
such a result.
l showed concfusively that this would
work injury to seventeen million people
who WORK foI wages. I also showed that
the Injury would extend to all pensioners.
savings and other eank depositors, aud the
holders Of Insurance policies, aggregating
tN Give milton Of people, AMI to every per
son in the United States who has any money
except gold coin. What was Mr.. Harvey's
reply to disprove my stateuentf Not one
word. On the contrary, he has shown that
benefits VIII come to no people except sill
yer mine owners and insolvent debtors.
l submit to the people of this republic
that they should never permit threats of
revolution t. induce them to adopt whole
sale Reputation. The civilized world is
clearly on my side OF this issue. / protest
against any attempt to lead this republic
into the camp of the half-ciyilized and bar