The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-03

sibly take issue with us on that prop
oSition. They say If you grant woman
the suffrage. the result will be that
you double the good vote.
Arguing in a Circle.
Well. sir. when 1 first had that ar
gument hurled at me. for a moment
thought a point really had been made
but l happened to remember that our
government is conducted by parties,
and If I understood the gentleman $
theory Alright in the main. man and
wife would vote one ticket. standing
side by side. as this gentleman and his
estimable wife stand side by side, and
you double the vote, Upon second
that on the Republican side you do
just the same thing. so that the two
votes would neutraliZe each other.
and there was nothing gained in the
RroSS-one family casting two votes,
one on the Republican side and one on
the Democratic side. when heretofore
the same thing had been done by only
one vote.
Now, sir was somewhat astonished
that that argument should come from a
Democrat. Had it been a Republican
who had advanced it, could have I'M
derstood it, because they have been
I trained in a school that holds that if
you tax B in the interests of A and
then turn around and tax A in the in
terestS of 3, both will get rich at it,
Oaughter) But when the kind of
reasoning introduced behind this point
is made by Democrat, I say, "Oh, fie
upon it. We thought for better
things"
His Arguments Not Answered.
I think, sir that in all fairness I may
say now, 1 have passed through the
arguments offered by gentlemen. There
are no other arguments that occur to
me that are worthy of consideration
/ upon this floor or that were Joined in
issue. And now 1 want to ask how
has it affected the question as discussed
! upon this floor?
l laid down first the proposition that
/ the franchise ought to be confined to
those who are capable of acting indie
pendently. Has that proposition been
controverted by arguments? L have
failed to hear them, if it has. Still
further, in stating that such was the
relationship Of woman in the family,
that she was not capable Of acting
thus independently without the dicta-
ton or the suspicion of dictation from
her husband-has it been controverted?
Gentlemen will say that it is not so. but
is it an argument? Do we not know
from the great phase of human nature
from the difference of mans ma
ture and woman's nature that
it will be so? Second, I laid
down the proposition that the cleo
tive franchise was a privilege, not a
right. Has it been proven to be an
inherent right? On the contrary, did
not show that the doctrine, first an
nounced in the declaration of indepen-
dence, that governments derived their
just powers from the consent Of the
governed, is subject to such modifica-
ton as to lead our statesmen to eX-
clude women from it?
Sufficient representation.
Next, have they proven that the
great mass of women of voting age
are not already sufficiently represented
in politics by husbands, fathers, sons
or brothers? Fourth, that in the case
of unmarried property owners, have
they proven that there is discrimina-
ton made against woman referring to
this great doctrine of theirs of no tax
alton without representation? First,
the married ladies having representa-
ton through their husbands, cut down
the rest to those who are unmarried
and are property owners. I went so
far as to say that if gentlemen
only intended to enfranchise these,
had no serious objections, because it
would meet the demand for no taxa
ton without representation, and the
number would be so few as not 70 ma
terially interfere with the welfare of
society or domestic peace. But 1 ar
gued that there was no real reason
for this, for the reason that women in
taxation are not Disseminated against,
that there was no possible means by
which they could reduce taxation and,
therefore, even this much OF a conces- /
sion was not necessary,
For Protection, Not Intelligence.
Fifth have they proven that the
principle in which franchise has been
hitherto extended, was not for the pur-
pose of protection, and has ever been
granted because of intellectual equal
ity? Protection is the principle upon
which franchise has ever been granted /
and notwithstanding all the talk about
oppression and tyranny there has not
been an instance OF oppression and I
tyranny produced that would lead us
to say that woman ought to have the /
Acknowledgement to protect her from /
man. In other words, men and women /
are not natural enemieS-One needing I
protection against the other. They are
on the very best OF terms. The fact /
that they are married proves it. (
Applause)
All Change Not Progress.
Sixth, have they proven that the I
steady refusal OF statesmen to grant /
Woman's suffrage for the past two /
hundred years was unWise? All change I
is not progress. All the customs that (
have been bequeathed to us by anti /
guilty ought not TO be torn down be- /
cause some customs ought to be. Some 4
of these customs, sir, are monuments |
that bespeak the wisdom of our ances- /
tors and we ought to have a decent /
respect for them.
Seventh, have they pointed out how
women are to work the wonders and, /
the reformation that they will when .
given the ballot? Have they told US
how they would or what laws they
would change, or what laws it is de-
sirable to change? Have they ex-
planned to us in what manner they will |
be able to elect all good men to office /
to administer the laws?
Pursuing Napoleon.
1 have heard nothing of all this.
These, take it, are the arguments that
ought to have occupied the attention
of my friend, and a denial would have
been more effectual than undertaking
to break their force by an attempt to
debase me. He gave us a beautiful
reference to the forces of Wellington
and Butcher. Why, sir, had yelling
ton and Butcher let the grand army of
France alone, had they ceased to pur-
sue the old guard and turned all at
tention to capturing the Little Cor
poral," it is quite possible that, under
Ney or some other mighty leader, the
broken army might have been gathered
together through the night and hurled
with renewed force upon the British