The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1895-08-07
THEIR FINAL GASP.
Horn and Harvey Wind Up Their
Long Debate.
Horn Says Harvey Hasn't Said
One True Thing.
DON'T AGREE AT ALL.
Harvey Declares He Has Made
Good His Propositions.

CHICAGO, Aug. THE principals in
the Horr-Harvey debate made their
summaries yesterday, as allowed them
by the rules agreed upon. The sub
stance of Roswell G. Horr's summary
was:
The object of this debate was to de-
termine if it would be wise for our ma
/ ton to throw open it's minis to the
free coinage of silver at the ratio of 16
to when the civilized nations of the
world refuse to join in such action.
My opponent proposed to prove that
such course is advisable, and under
| took to do it on the lines laid down in
Coins Financial School" l denied
| the advisa bility of such action, and at
tackled the teachings of that book
from the title page to its close. The
debate is finished, and how does the
case stand?
Mr.. Harvey admits that the book is
pure fiction. He based his whole ar
gument on the proposition that the
silver dollar was in 1892 made the only
unit of measure of value. 1 have
shown conclusively that our fore
fathers attempted to establish BIZ
metalllsm, and provided for two units
OF vaIue-one of gold and one of silver
always naming gold first, and that
j up to 1884 the silver standard alone
was used. That after that the gold
| standard came into use, and that since
that the silver dollar has never for a
day been used as the measure of values
! in the United States. No nation has
ever succeeded in actually using two
standards at the same time.
Mr.. Harvey next based his case upon
the assumption that the law of 1873
was crime. First, he claimed that
the congress of the United States was
purchased. Secondly, he stated that
the bill passed both houses all right
and was changed by some clerk in it's
enrolment. He next claimed that it
was not changed by clerk, but that
the dirty work was done by a confer
| ence committee. He then showed that
| none of his other statements are true,
| but that the work was done by passing
q substitute BILL. He introduced no
evidence in support of any one of those
positions. Thus he stands convicted
| by his own statements of an effort to
deceive the people.
Mr.. Horn made specific and general
denial of all the other statements con-
tanned in Harvey's book.
w. Fl. Harvey, Coin" in his sum-
mary, made the following statement:
Il believe those who read and care
fully digest the debate will conclude
that 1 have made good all the propo-
sitiOns set forth in my opening state
ment. That Mr.. Horn found no errors
in Coins Financial School, except the
statement on page 9, where it stated
that tie silver coined prior to 1873 was
sos, OOO, 900, which we both agree
shodld read $l43 600, 600. This is not
an error affecting the merits of the
book or the principle involved, and to
have stated it at $l43, ZOO, 900 would
have been to the interest of my cause
more than stating it at $iO5, 900, 600.
In the few words left me | want to
say that if the world, time out of
mind, has had business panics and
most mems and wOmen's lives have
been full of trouble in acquiring the
necessities and comforts OF life, that
our present civilization has not re-
moved the possibility of these re-
curing panics, and that to a large
majOrity of the people on this earth
their almost exclusive attention and
labOrs are given4tO acquiring a living
with, in most instances, Indifferent
and discOuraging results, will be ad-
mitted by everyone.
1T was once supposed that 1abor-sav-
ing improvements and inventions
would lessen the necessary toll of man
and was promise of day to come
Wn0n WIN I1CCIO 1aOOr all WOulQ be
provided for and humanity as a whole
would be benefited. Has it had that
result? All Will answer that it has
not. The lines of demarkation be-
tween the rich and the poor are more
marked than ever and the percent age
of people who devote all their time in
a struggle for existence is greater now
than at any time known in modern his
tory. This will not be denied by any
but the selfish few, whose wants be-
ing supplied, know nothing of the
wants of others.
1--WE are in a commercial age, where
inventions, education and all forms of
human skill and ingenuity are made
to promote the personal ends of men
or combinations of men. Such an age
promotes selfshness in all things. 1t
follows that it is not only lawful but
desirable to monopolize ones self,
property of any and all kinds, no mat
ter how unnecessary it may be in pro-
: noting to the local comforts of the
person in possession.