The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1895-01-04
DEBATE IN THE HOUSE.
Speeches for and Against the Carlisle
BiII--Springer Flip-FIOps.

speeches for and Against the Carlisle
Biil--Springer F1ip-FIOps.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 3.-The proceedings
in the House to-day lacked marked Incl
dents of any kind. The debate on the cur
rency bill continued all day. but waa gen.
orally spiritless. and the attendance, which
was lsrge at the beginning, dwindled to al
most nothing. The speakers to-day were
Messrs. Black of Georgia, McCreary and
Buckner of Kentucky in favor of the bill,
Messrs. Haughen of Wisconsin, and Adams
of Pennsylvania, in opposition to it. No
other business was transacted.
The House presented an animated scene
as it was called to order by Speaker Crisp
after the holiday recess. The galleries were
crowded and over half the members were
in their seats In the diplomatic gallery
were the Japanese minister and his secre-
tary and many prominent personages
looked down on the forensic arena from
the reserved gallery. After the call of the
committees for reports, Mr.. Quigg at
tempted to offer a resolution relating to
salaries in the New York postoffice, but
Mr.. Springer, in charge of the currency
bill, cut him off with a motion to go into
committee of the whole for further consid-
Grafton of that bill. Accordingly, the House
went into committee, Mr.. Richardson, of
Tennessee, in the chair, and Mr.. Black, of
Georgia, a member of the banking and
currency committee, took the floor in favor
of the bill.
The debate started sluggishly. Mr. Black
denied, at the outset that the banking and
currency committee had heard only
tionaI bankers while considering the pend
ing measure and had turned deaf to
all others. He met this and parried other
criticisms of the opponents of the bill and
gave historical review of the financial
doctrines of Democratic Presidents from
jefferson to Cleveland. Legislation had not
caused all the misfortunes under whsch the
people were suffering, he said. 1t might
have contributed to their misfortune and
he believed the passing of the present. bill
would contribute to their relief but he
deprecated the feeling abroad in the land
that for all the ills and misfortunes of the
Blacks advocacy of the State banks of
issue was ardent, but he concluded by ex-
pressing, amid applause, the opinion that
the only real function of the government
was the coinage of gold and silver.
SPRINGER LAMBASTED.
Mr. Haughen, who followed, opposed the
measure He described the bill a crude,
ill-considered measure, fraught with dan
gers to the country, and created consid-
erable amusement by his reference to
Mr.. Springers position last summer, when
he (Springer) antagonzed the repeal of the
state Ddnk tax. he reIerreO 10 SPRING
er as the most 'agile'' member the floor,
one whose voice has been on every side
of every question: and said the administra-
ton had made no mistake when it had
selected him to press the proposition for
a flexible and elastic currency.
At the conclusion of Mr.. Haughen's re-
marks, Mr.. McCreary, who was a member
of the Brussels monetary conference, took
the floor in favor OF the measure. He said
he had examined all the plans suggested for
n reform
the Carlisle bill. as amended by the Spring
er modifiea tons the best solution of the
to funding the gPeenbacks with interest
bearing bonds. He believed the banking
business should be divorced from the gov
ernment; that the greenbacks should be
retired by the surplus revenues rapidly
as possible, and that safe. elastic cur
rIency should be provided These objects
he thought, would be attained by the pas
sage of the pending bill. Mr. McCreary
expressed the opinion that in the event Of
the failure of some currency legislation
at this session, $100,000,00O or sl5O,0OO, 600
OF bonds would have to be issued.
lieve the condition of the treasury asked
Mr.. Dingley.
ton directly, but said that the indorse-
ment of the President and Secretary of
the Treasury had been given to this bill
and all the members of the House should
unite in an earnest and sincere effort to
reform the currency and give relief to the
Mr.. McCreary yielded few minutes of
his time to his colleague, Mr.. Buckner the
new Democratic member from Kentucky,
course of the latter's remarks he eulogized
President Cleveland and Secretary Carlisle
as Democrats. He said the cardinal differ
ence between Democrat and a Repub-
lican was that the latter believed in pro-
lection and the former did not. There is
just as radical difference between a Dem
ocrat and PopuliSt,'' he said 1.-The latter
believes the government can create fiat
money and the Democrat denies this in
toto
Mr.. Adams, of Pennsylvania, opposed the
bill attacking some of its provisions Wig
orousy especially the revival of State
banks. While speaking of the depression
existing in all enterprises he referred to
the decline of 80 cents ton in the price
of coal which he said had cost the people
jeremiah Simpson, the Kansas Populist,
seized on this statement anti asked Mr..
consumers?
''on the miners, the holders of railroad
shares. ares etc replied Mr. Adams
Mr.. Simpson. THE gentleman speaks for
a Glass; continued Mr.. Adams "Legisla-
ton should be for the benefit Of all-capital-
lists. miners and consumers alike
AS the consumers are so much more nu-
merous than the producers, said Mr.:
is 2 benefit to the country"
How about the decline in the price of
ers?"' asked Mr.. Adams. himself turning
inquistor
1T ought to, under proper conditions, .
present system. after wheat gets through
the milling and railroad monopolies the
consumer gets no benefit of the reduced
When Mr. Adams concluded the commit
tee rose, Mr. Quigg again attempted to
office resolution, but Mr.. Springer objected
and it was referred to the committee on
rostoftices and post roads. and then, at 4;45,
the House adjourned.