The herald., 1895-01-23
MORE TALK ABOUT HAWAII
Kyles' Resolution Paves the
Way for Debate.
Criticisms on the Administration
Answered.
Judge Ricks' Case Disposed of by the
Committee, Which Cenauses
the Jurist.

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defense in the senate today. The per-
sonal element in the controversy drew
large crowds to the galleries, which al
times overflow we'd into the outer corridors.
L indicated the diminution OF public
interest 10 Hawaii. now that the course
of the administration is the main ques.
ton OF discussion. Gray and George
| justified the administration, and Gray
dwelt upon the persistency and vindic-
tiveness with which the president wss
vi!itied and misrepresented.
Lodge and Hawley made the critical
speeches of the day, the former urging
the exseptof the foreign British agrees
sion in the Pacific, while Mr.. Hawley
made pointed comment on the conaider-
alton given to Queen Liliuokalani's
representatives who visited the state de.
partment after the United States had
formally recognized the Hawaiian re-
public. The debate was still in progress
when the morning hour expired and the
Nicaragua canal bill was taken up.
Mr.. Turpie spoke against the mea sure
for three hours, and had not concluded
when the senate adjourned.
HAWAII AGAIN.
The pooling bill was favorably re-
ported to the senste today by Butler 1,
Democrat, of South Carolina. Chandler
stated that the report was not unani.
nous and gave notice that when the bill
was taken up he would offer an amend
ment concerning the submission OF
freight and passenger rates to the inter.
state commerce commission.
Allen OF Nebraska presented q large
bunch OF petitions from citizens OF Ala
bama claiming that they we're deprived
OF republican form OF governm ent and
asking the Intervention of congress-.
Wolcott. Republican, OF Colorado.
submitted resolutions from the legisla.
ture of Colorado reciting the circum~
stances Of default in paying the Pacific
railroad debt and urging the speedy
settlement OF the governments rights.
A resolution was passed asking the sec.
rotary of the interior for information ss
to permits 10 cut tim Der from public
lands. Another resolution was passed
asking information as to pension sus-
pension, applications, etc.
This clsnred the decks for the renewal
OF the debate for Hawaii. Minister
Thurston of Hawaii was again in the
diplomatic gallery, accompanied by bis
secretary. The subject came up on
Kyle's resolution, which ia one express
ing generally the disapproval OF the
senate in the action of the administra.
ton in Withdrawing warships from
Hawaii.
THAT RoYALIsT DELEGATION.
Gray, Democrat, OF Delaware, again
took the floor TO further answer, he said,
the flimsy attacks made in the senate
against the administration. The senator
referred to the statement by Senator
Hswley, made yesterday, as to the pres
ident seeing the Royalist delegates who
visited Washington last August. Mr.
Gray reiterated that the president had
never seen these delegates, being sick
at the time.
care you prepared to say that they
never cav the secretary OF state 2"
asked Frye.
Gray said he had no information on
that point.
Hawley rose to reply. holding in his
hand newspaper slip containing
Cleveland's authorized statement of the
facts concerning the Royalist delegates.
Hawley said he had not intended to
maintain that personal interview
between the president and the Royal.
lists had occurred. He was reliably in.
formed that there had been no pereoral
interview, but continued reading from
the presidents statement to show that
the Roy alist delegates had aeen Secre-
tary Gresham 1t should be kept in
mind that these delegates were the
representatives of those oonspiring to
replace depoaed queen. They were in
Washington either "a conspirators
against the existing government of
Hawaii, or else they were on an honest
mission. II it was honest, they ought to
have been referred to the Hawaiian
minister. If they were conspirators,
they should not have been received by
Gresham. Mr.. Hswley read from the
letter OF the Royalist delegates to the
secretary of state:
THOUGHT 1T AMBIGUOUS.
"We the undersigned, commissioners
sent by the dsposed queen. request an
interview with the president"
"Just think of the audacity." said
Hawley. Think OF this request OF our
secretary OF state after VS. had formally
recognized the government OF Hawaii"
The senator said he desired to make
no personal arraignment Of the presi-
dent but he (Hawley) believed the
presidents whole course on Hawaii had
been wrong.
Mr.. Gray again answered the criticisms
upon the president. H. said these at
tacka were 80 constant, the auimus 30
evident that it was perhaps useless to
controvert them. Some people
seemed determined to attack the presi-
dent whatever the subject might be.
If he sat down he was too long; if he
stood up he was too short. These
critics we're bound to find fault. The
presldents letter TO the Royalist dele
gates was purely unofficial. 1t was par
of the course By which the president,
with strong hand, was endeavoring to
conduct business. The senator declared
this agitation and this talk of keeping
warahips at Honolulu was kept up
largely by the echemers for annexation
who thought it would help their cause.
Tho Samoan question was unexpect.
eddy interjected into tine debate at this
point.
Mr.. Gray referred to the fact that the
U nlted States WAS now bound by inter-
national agreement to keep bRrbarous
king in power in Samoa. II would mot
do to decide against barbarous queen
when we at the same time were pro-
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