The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1895-07-17
THE DEBATE.
Mr.. Horr Turns His Batteries of Wit
on the SfIyeritc.


CHICAGO, July 16.-The debate proper be-
gan by Mr.. Horr asking his opponent to
tell plainly If there was ever any such
school held as that described in the book
.Coin's Financial School, Mr.. Horr said:
..I find all through the book large number
of statements attributed to very consider
able number of the business men of CHI
cago. and I am informed that those men,
never one of them. uttered single word
attributed to them. If the book is written
as an allegory, 1 would like my friend to
state why he did not use, as all literary men
have always done, the names OF fictitious
individuals-unless he intended to convey
the impression that those men were pres
ent and received the castigaticn which he
says he administered to them on the spot.
Qaughter.) The book even goes further: 1t
describes the crestfallen manner in which
some of these gentlemen left the room
after being worsted in this fearful manner.
Q.aughter.) feel now that what We want
to get at is the fact about the book.
will know where we are proceeding"
Mr. Harvey-The school is alesory; it
marshals the opinions of the two sides OF
this controversy, so that ones imagination
can see the conflict Of opinions and the
contest as it proceeds. 1t puts in the
mouths of the gold standard advocates
their well-known views fairly stated. with
which the country had been flooded up to
the time the school was written. The
strength OF the book was intended 10 be
i'm the fairness of stating those views.
The fact that a little boy in knee pants
posed to be sufficient to fix the story as
allegorical One reading Aesop's fables
does not care whether the animals talked
or not Neither does he attach any Inn
6 N
or not 1t is the subject and the truths
uttered that give TO 1t in such instance its
Importance. If IL is charged that actual
characters are used in the book while sim
liar books use fictitious characters the
answer is that the well-known utterances
and opinions of these men are used, and
the further answer that Shakespeare used
actual characters.
Mr. Horr--I submit that IL my friend had
studied the Scriptures little more care
fully when he was looking for the motto
which i shall take up next he would have
found IL somewhere stated that man is
not permitted to bear false witness against
his neighbor He says that he put into
their mouths the words that they them
selves would have uttered. / have had
that done for me so many times In my life
that i know what IL means. But now /
come to the motto OF the book, which is
this: Il thank thee, Father. Lord OF
heaven and earth, because thou hast hid
these things from the wise and prudent
and hast revealed them unto babes" Does
my friend desire to intimate that the kind
Of finance which he teaches is something
that babes will understand. but that people
who know anything will never be able 10
comprehend? applause and laughter)
MEANING OF "BABEs.'
Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr misnterprets the
meaning OF that verse. The word ''Babes"
is intended to mean the pure OF mind and
unselfish. 1t is in that sense that il is
used In the Bible. ami means that those
pure OF mind and unseifsh can see clearly
those things which the impure of mind and
selfish cannot see or understand.
Here came the first applause OF the de-
| bate.
THE cause / represent" Mr.. Harvey cons
| tinued. is pure and unseifish."
| Mr.. Horr-Gentlemen. l merely called MS
attention TO the usage of the passage az
| Scripture, which he has now fully ex-
plained oy saying that the passage does
not mean what II SAYS. that the word
which IS Translated babes" reall- means
honest disinterested persons / desire 10
! say that that matter Is not susceptible Of
| the explanation he now makes OF "a. Tfaf
motto was intended to illustrate the
(COntfnued on Third Pawea