New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-04-28
MCABE HAD A STORY TO TELL
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them about the alleged raising of money. Among
the officers was Battalion Chief Croker.
Commissioner La Grange said he had written
down the substance of MS conversation with
Croker, and upon the suggestion OF Mr.. Ra;hes
he read it. as follows:
During my conversation with Croker asked him a
p,s se na Of the officers amendment He said he
ba1 not I asked him If he knew any officers who
had Su be he Sa dd solicited me- TO He sad he
was not because he knew letter was COMING ana
said to him: DO you know any officers who did
replied them sp said hO:f in 2o my kh So1
those did not. YOU must know those who did
| think it was-who had not paid up. and then
again said to him. Then you must have known
a9se Tn said d Then u" money was raised and he
asked him + had n.r been 6, Ru' bR IN
further Conversation Win him after that about this
matter. During our conversations i told him TO
stand up like a man and tell the truth.
General La Grange had in his hand several
napcrs which he said mostly written state
,nen,s OF conversations he had had with officers Of
the department. In most cases, he said. he had
failed TO get any Information about the raising Of
money for the officers amendment. To George
Raines General La Grange said he could net re-
member the date of his interview with Bat
TALON Chief Croker.
MCABE'S NAME BROUGHT IN.
GLOW did you TO question Croker? Who
suggested CroKer's name TO YOU? A.-John Nc
Cabe now dead.
Q-At the time McCabe mentioned the name OF
Croker you. did you have the name OF Leary as
ISOLATED with Croker? A.-No. sir.
Odd McCabe make any mention OF introduc en-
ay ntroSSce any Perso s qS s me
Q-At the time Croker came before YOU. did you
TO him. l remember, that there was great deal
Of scandal going on. ard that the boys seemed
TO o NAYS er6bsbv have 10 Zone before the Committee
TG should ike to know just where they stool SO
that might depend upon men If they had done
nothing Of very great wrOn ,o,, thu, man rar,od
DR a4 N Groaf af9Im m y0R 5a25 ma"
ODD Mr.. Croker tell you anything about a
from the men? Al think he mentioned it. and
sIo5r-How d,d he explain IT? Ale said IT was for
expenses for protecting the hremens portion OF the
DID he say it also used for the pur-
BR qsse %f p AVN think hhS h. I'D u '' ~
nSed i'' to Sub Subscribe to fund but that he had
declared he would not Ray =, up na under any c'rcu
S o5"Dd he say that he knew oftcers the bat
talon who had SUBSCRIBED? ,A-No, he said ne
m m9T % %'sse hat he therefore knew who did
ws A mSnev had Y Seen aTa sod Al dd not ask him.
Q-Dd you ask him wne Sn , money MAS r being
aed fer T 9 SaP define of e5 the Of ne
or the exact purpose of the money being ralsea
A-NO. because II Was itI-tNtIS ullutloNOO' "'A0
Q-Was it after he had explained the one-iollar
subscriptions by the officers OF the battalion
Gut you did not make mention of the officers
Q.-Then it is a matter of inference in your mind
OF the subject of our conversation was quite under
M RoO-May ask # the he hTP La you have re-
fegTed 10 is ne MI a hfay to- MT prns ay
Odd YOU make a InemoranduIn OF all the inter;
some,hng worth inquiring about.
Rd D RSss IN are TSu r San A 9s papers when
Q-Have YOU any objection to putting those pa
pers in as evidence? A-Wel-
sonal papers? A.-Not particularly so However
yin hand them to the committee because in a }me'T
should not for them 10 be open for public in
spection
GEN. LA GRANGE on MCABEs SUICIDE
Mr.. Raines intimated that he had no further
questions TO ask, whereupon General La Grange
said before he left the chair he wished TO take
the opportunity Of publicly answering question
that had been put 70 him. bat which he declined
70 answer until he appeared before the court
The Commissioner then turned in his chair to-
ward the body Of the court, and Speaking in a
suppressed but clear tone, said:
have been asked If knew any reason why Nc
Cabe committed suicide. l have 70 say that ne
s IA fGnG 6i man. ben qa sed s BY his
some Of them with things that ne cona not 'g 9i
had irish blood in his veins; he could not be an
.nforrner. and he is dead
The Commissioner then rose and started to
leave the stand but was loudly called back by
Mr. Raines who had the witnesses written state
u1ent in his hands, and said he had some ques-
tons 10 ask the Commissioner regarding it.
General La Grange protested against MT
Raines's possession of the document and held
that Mr. Raines had right TO question upon
as contents. Mr. Raines said the paper was
properly obtained. and after the statement when
the Commissioner had made, he had every right
10 examine the witness upon the statement.
Q-The statements Of Mr. McCa6e which are SCI es
OUT in this memorandum extend back Tor periou VI
SSIs Gseye; al his Aa a6cd f25 qnF refer
transactions Of the Fire. Department during years
p9r r .S,S Statements refer to the raising Of
money for corrupt purposes by the f re- Dia'
Al ct'HThe contents OF this document l suppose Is
about the substance OF what NC ape ss'c a,,ains
u" oPPFor what purpose did you make the mem
orsndum? A-Because ] wanted 70 know II any,
hing wrong had been done in the department. am
SaI}fi you &c! compile i, your guidance or
70 pass II over 10 other persons? A-for my own
guidance entirely
Replying TO a number Of questions relative L
his meetings with McCabe the witness said Nc
Cabe was in the hdDlt oi Co'''i's
his Office. for the purpose OF Keeping MI" ~
formed as to the affairs Of the FIRE depart
rent. One Of McCabe's visits was the gay ai'e
"The Press" article appeared. and II was 'he'
that he made the statements appearing III u"
memorandum.
ODD YOU interrogate him upon the mater ma,
No. he sat down and told me VoiuntfriiI! al ~
Odd he tell you he had persona n nassaee o
about the raising Of money. TO help me paS'As'
the officers amendment? A-No ... IN ,bi
O-Now Commissioner Is there anytfhS -. -
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