The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1895-10-04
GREETINGS TO METHODISTS.
The Episcopal Convention Establishes a
Significant Precedent.
DR.. CARMICHAEL TAXES EXCEPTION
To the Use of the Expression "American
Church"-The Revision Committee
Reports to u Committee ofthe
whoie-A Canadian Dele
cation Received.

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Of battle royal over the disposition 10
be made Of the revision report brought
the clerical and lay deegates OF the
Episcopal Convention out in Nrce at
Gethsemane church this morning. while
the galleries We're crowded.
For half an hour before Or. Xix call
ed the session 10 order, friends and OPP
ponents of the proposed new constitu-
tion and canons. consideration OF which
had been made a special order over all
other business. gathered in the aisles and
pews and debated desirable methods OF
procedure and policy with animation.
Revisionists, following out the programme
inaugurated yesterday afternoon, seemed
determined 10 press for the full con-
sderation OF the report, thus early in
the convention, while the antis We're DIS
posed, as a temporary expedient. 10 refer
1t to a special committee OF the House
Of Deputies, in hope that this might
result In its being Indefinitely hung up.
AT the outset of the session Or. Dix
announced the committees On the State
OF the Church, New Di0ceses, Canons,
iIdyer-Book, and other subjects TO be
brought before the convention. wnich
were sufficiently numerous TO give near
ly every one Of the delegates work IN
the future.
on the order of memorials, petitions
praying for the creation OF new do
ceses were presented by the delegations
from California, Maryland, Kentucky,
and Northern Michigan, and referred.
HUMOROUS EpIsoDr.
\ humorous episode grew out OF a mo-
tlon by DR.. THAI, OF Michigan, inviting
the bishop. to be present al the recep-
tiOn to the Canadian delegates this al
ternOOn. The resolution used the ex-
preston American Church." and THIS
was taken exception to by Or. Carm-
chaei, OF Virginia, who contended that
they had no other title than the Pro-
testant Episcopal Church in the United
States.
An amendment thus correcting the res
olution was defeated, and amid much
laughter a division was demanded. 1t
resulted In a vote OF ~ TO 81 for the
term, American Church." and the reso-
luton stood.
IL happens that the Methodist Conference
OF Northern Minnesota is now In ses-
sion a few blocks distant, with Bishop
Fawler as president. and in a spirit OF
goodwill, Major Samuel Malone. of OF
tumwa, Iowa, moved that the House send
fratcrnal greetings to the Methodist gath-
ering with assurances Of its sympathy
and joy In the abundance Of their Chris
tian labors.
Vigorous objection was entered, how
ever. by Delegate Fairbanks. OF Florida,
who characterized II as an extraordinary
and unusual proceeding, and as one Objec-
tion was fatal, the resolution went 10 the
calendar.
CHRISTIAN UNITY.
This disposition. however, was not sat
isfactOrv 10 the conference at large, and
In behalf OF the entire Iowa delegation,
Rov. Dr. Green. OF Cedar Rapids, pressed
for immediate consideration. The neces-
sary twO-thlrds vote 10 take the resOlii-
tion from the calendar and its adoption
was urged IN a vigorous speech py bt:
Green. who said that the House should
manifest its Christian courtesy and con-
sistence. and rid the Church OF the OIL
repeated reprOach that IL simply spoke
empty syllables and that It's heart was
not I'm the cause OF Christian unity.
DELEGATE Fairbanks. of Florida, con-
tended that the body of Methodists now IN
session was not general conference,
but a mere fragmentary affair, and that
II would be setting bad precedent IN
many respects 10 send greetings TO
small sectional Christian body.
The House however was OF a con-
trarv opinion. and the greetings were
adopted by viva yOce vote OF ABOUT 'D 10
This is the first time I'm the history
% General Conventions Of the Episcopal
church that greetings have been sent 10
a conference OF a different denomination,
and the action Is regarded as Significant
mark Of the advance OF Christian unity:
When the hour arrived for the special
order. Or. Hoffman, IN behalf OF the
Revision Committee, made prlei eN-
planatory statement. HlmseI ana aASo-
ciatcs ne said, would gladly nave been
reIievcd OF their responsibility. but nav
inc accented the trust. they lad endealor-
"a fo discharge II TO the best Of their
ability.
uvaED BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
They had placed the canons in regular
order and clothed them IN language lhti
could not be misunderstood ana thf re-
port. which reflected tho views OF
fr,ei1ritv OF the committee was entitled
to "a careful. candid and patient conshtr-
atom TO that end he moved that the
House resolve itself INTO a committee
of the whole This was adopted win
an amendment keeping the debate Win
ia the rules governing the House. Whlcn
was Incorporated by vote or 10 10 lSv
the reyisionists being in the minority.
Delegate Packard, OF Maryland, hhNihS
heeu elected chairman Of the committee,
AIR Hoffman presented the formal dec-
iaratton of faith which. since being
nrinied had been so amended as to in
clude the missionary Jurisdictions IN the
general term, the church IN the dloceses
within the United states.
II was insisted By DR.. Holman that
the declaration was eminently desirable
n not necessary and emphasis was la.i
on the fact that the Church in ireland,
Scotland and Canada, had formulated
;neir belief as a preamble 70 the Constl-
stffous of fh.ir regpeetiyt jurisdic tons.
Rev DR. j. = Stone. Of Chicago,
member OF the Revision Committee. was OF
au entirely different opinion. lie was
MT inluressed. he said. with the sublime
dicni,v OF even the Constitution itself
much less with the necessity for pre-
au1ble. The Church had not asked the
convention 20 define its posi- ltion as a part
OF the Holy Catholic Church. The Church
existed Independently Of the convention
and il had not asked even for declara-
ton.
DEBATING on DFBkTF.
Even II il had, then the one submitted
was inadequate. On this ground, there
Il re-. and the further premises that It was
also unnecessary and inadvisabie. ne
Il oved the tatlins Of the resolution.
The chairman ruled the Chicago rector
ctt OF order on the ground that the OBJ
tect OF going into Committee OF the Whole
was TO allow full and free debate. and he
likewise refused TO recognize an appeal
from this decision.
several dcputies objected 10 the debate
eclpg on as long as a single delegate had
Breath left In his body. and the CON-
nitiee was getting into tangle when ex-
s,ratOr Edmunds suggested that further
action be postponed until The Committee
on Rules could graPple with the difficulty.
This was satisfactory TO all concerned.
and the committee reported progress ana
At neon the House of Bishops and Dep