The San Francisco call., 1895-08-03
VISIT TO THE CASTLE"
Information Gathered at the
Scene of the Supposed
Murders.
WANTED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS
Crooked Record of the Insurance
SWlndler's AccompliceS Used
to Make Them Talk.

| CHICAGO. ILL. Aug. 2. There were q
few important developments in the
Holmes case to-day. Geyer, the Philadel-
phia detective, arrived this morning, held
a conference with the police and left again
fer Philadelphia tonight. His conference
with the police was in the presence of Pat
| Quinlan and his wife. In company with
the police officials MrsQuinlan went to the
Holmes castle" to-day and gave the Off
GERS considerable information. Some of
the furniture in the Quinlan apartments
there was identified as having once be-
| longed to Julia Conner, who, with her
daughter, is thought to be dead, a victim
of Holmes. Mrs. Quinlan gave the police
much information. After the police had
| talked with Geyer and permitted Geyer to
talk with Quinlan and his wife the two be-
| came much more communicative. The
| police became mysteriously alert, and it
was at once announced that Important in
formation had been received. To a re-
porter of The United Press Chief Badenoch
| said:
| tWe have secured some new and very
| important information from Mrs. Quinlan.
She has given us some strong evidence
against Holmes"
''Does it relate to the charge of forgery
or murder?"
''That 1 will not say at this time. We
are using the information and adding to it
| by new discoveries made by the use of her
evidence. We are not through yet and
will not give the information to the press
| until we are"
els it not true that the Qulnlans are
staring a twenty-years sentence in the
penitentiary in the face when they contem-
plate charge and requisition to Texas?"
Eyes that is true. We have undisputed
evidence that will send Holmes and Mrs.
Quinlan to the penitentiary for twenty
years in Texas, and think Pat will soon
be placed in the same net"
'You are using this as lever to make
them talk?'
"Our information is coming from Mrs.
Quinlan. She is the one who forged sigma
lures to the notes and to trust deed Sc
cured by the notes. The limit for this
crime in Texas is twenty years"
| "Mrs. Quinlan is more willing to talk,
| then?"
eyes, she has already talked some."
"About Hatch or Holmes?"
mo and yes. l will not say what she
has told US about Holmes. We believe she
has told the truth, but we will know abso-
|
eight hours"
did Detective Geyer give you any in
| formation?'
Eyes, he did. Geyer aided US materi-
ally"
From the fact that Geyer has gone to
Philadelphia, and that Lawyer Capps has
also gone there, it seems probable that
there will be a convocation of Holmes ac-
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week, and that it will then be decided who
has the strongest case against him, and
arrangements will be made for requisition.
To-day Detective Geyer said:
'The Toronto authorities are anxious to
get Holmes / know they can prove the
identity of the Pietzel children whose
bodies were found in the cellar of the
house on Henry street. The Texas people,
mean the faction represented by Attor-
ney Capps of Forth Worth, can send
Holmes to the penitentiary for twenty
years easy enough. Holmes would rather
go to hell than to Texas, and don't blame
him SO much for that"
! When asked what has been the result of
his search for the body of Howard Pietzen
| in indianapolis, Geyer said
''Thus far there have been no results,
but have not given up. I think that the
body is buried somewhere in Indianapo-
| lis"
"Do you think either of the William sis
| ters is alive?"
'No. If either were alive Holmes would
not attempt to explain how one of them
was killed. If their blood was not on his
hands he would have no story of blood to
| tell about either one of them.''
| Chief of Police Badenoch left the city to-
| night, saying he was going to his summer
home IN Wisconsin and would not return
to Chicago until next Monday. He has
not been in the habit of going there until
Saturday evening, and it is believed that
| he is on his way to some other part to
verify evidence given by Mrs. Quinlan
against Holmes.
| A significant remark made by Lawyer
| Capps while he was here is recalled by the
developments of the day. The remark
was: "Mrs. Quinlan's head is in the nooze.
I mean she is guilty of crimes in Texas
that will land her in the penitentiary
there. AS for Holmes, can say that we
have evidence that will place him behind
| the bars for twenty years in Texas. unless
he proves that the Williams sisters are
alive. He can't prove it. He can prove
they are dead, though. He wishes he
could prove they are alive; he would
much rather do so than return to Texas"
For Rotce's Ertraditio7.