The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1895-07-18
TODAY's DEBATE LIVELY.

asked and answered, but the discussion
was OF a rambling nature.
TODAY's DEBATE LIVELY.
Mr.. Horr Denies the General Corruption
in Legislatures.
CHICAGO July 18.-The third day of
the HOrr- Harvey silver debate opened in
the auditorium of the Illinois club at II
a. m. today. The lateness of the starting
hour heretofore having been found more
or less incOnvenient in some respects.
The subject under discussion was what
Mr.. Harvey had characterized in his
book as the "Crime of '73''-rhe demone-
tiZation of silver
After some miscellaneous sparring,
Mr.. Harvey charged corruption in the
passage of the demonstration of silver.
Mr.. Horr. in reply, repudiated the infer
ence that the citizens Of the United
States were all corrupt and none of their
women yirtuous. Mr.. Horr repudiated
this, declaring that it was not true that
every man had his price. Members of
congress were as honest as the average
American citizen. He (the speaker)
knew whereof he spoke, for he had been
a member of that body himself.
Mr.. Horr then took up the history OF
the demonstration act and proceeded to
show the stages through which it had
passed and that its final enactment was
not till after it had been before congress
for nearly three years.
Mr. Harvey then returned to the
attack upon the honesty of legislatures
throughout the country including con-
gress and the Illinois and Colorado legis
latures. This venality was sapping the
foundations of the government as it had
sapped the foundations and destroyed
every republic of the past.
Mr.. Horr again returned to the de-
fense of the honesty of the American
people. de said Mr.. Harvey merely
picked out few corrupt men and drew
from them the proposition that the peo-
| pie of the nation were all corrupt. Why
if Mr.. Harvey had lived in Jobs time he
would have looked over that unfortunate
mans sores and would have gone out and
published throughout the world that all
Chaldea was one immense carbuncle.
Mr.. Horr then amid laughter, said he
would return to the question under dis
cussion and proceeded with the history
of the demonstration. pointing out how
the bill had been read in full several
times ard printed separately eleven
times and twice in the reports of the
| comptroller of the currency.
The debates in the senate on it con-
| tanned siXty-six columns in the cohgress-
| ional record. In the report of the COM
mittee it was stated that it had been
examined line by line and word by word
and was finally passed. He would show
that in SO doing the senate knew what it
was about
Mr.. Harvey in reply, said that Mr..
HOrr would have 20 divert from his posi-
tion when the proper time came. In
point of fact the bill about which she
had been talking, was not the
bill finally passed Judge Kelly,
| in presenting the bill in the
| house, said that it was merely a coditica-
ton of the unit laws. In response to a
question. Judge Kelly replied that the
! bill made no change in the value of the
coins of the nation.
In 1872, when the bill came up it was
spoken of as a bill on a dry subject and
members lost interest 1t was at thai
time. as appears from the record, that the
first disclosure of the intention to change
the standard to gold was made in g
speech by Mr. Hooper
But there was reason to believe thai
the speech was not actually delivered bu
| printed by leave, or that it was read from
manuscript and these words omitted
| But no reference was made to the de
monetizatiOn of silver. On the enroll
ment of the bill, clause was omitted
which had the effect of limiting the
VI SAANOI'
Mr.. Horr replying charged Mr.. Harvey
with quoting single sentence and leav
ing out the modifying context The rec
ords showed that this statement was made
in running debate and was not under leave
to print. In the very speech referred to b.
Mr.. Harvey, the speaker said this bill
provided for a standard "in a single
metal" instead of as before, in the two
metals, and that all coins except subsi
diary coins should be of gold.
Mr.. Horr then spoke of the demoneti
cation of silver in 1916 as the result o
experience in the use of the doubl
standard. In 1871, Germany adopted tn
gold standard and threw on the marke
$780, 100000 in silver. 1t was this tha
SET tho world to considering the silve
question-not any gold bug conspiracy
The financial policy of no great natio
| was ever dominated by conspiracy
This closed the debate for the day, ex
ceptth answering of questions by tn
disputants, propounded by members @
the audience
The attendance was hot large. but wa
appreciative and generous and impartis
in its recognition of telling points.