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Then another division vote on the


ing in the proposed "62 limit" being
killed by vote of 80 to mo further
count demanded"
The Convention then adjourned till
this morning.
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
When the Convention met this morn
ing, there was no time lost in resum-
ing the consideration of the matter
pending-the article on counties and
county government.
The first section which had been un-
der consideration all of the previous
day was again called up.
Mr.. Ira B. Jones renewed the mo-
ton made by Mr.. Talbert the night be-
fore to table the minority and take up
the majority report first.
Mr.. f. B. Gary said that this propo-
sition was a serious matter; there were
matters in this report which should be
considered as they stood. 10 pass
Mr.. Jones motion would be to reverse
the action of the convention already
taken. 1t was merely new scheme
to dispose of the minority report. He
moved to table Mr.. Jones motion.
This was carried by a vote of 63 to So.
Mr.. Prince then offered an amend
ment to strike out the word ''qualitied"
before the word voters and say free.
holder" instead. move to lay this
amendment on the table By vote OF
63 to Sc the amendment was tabled:
Mr.. Buist offered an amendment to
section 1 to strike out the word "legls;;
lature" on line 1 and insert general
assembly," This was adopted.
Mr.. Gage offered this amendment
which was adopted: Amend by add.
ing of line 7 after the word county"
the following words: "And at the
same election the question of name
and a county seat for such county
shall be submitted to the electors"
MIR. John B. Jones offered to substl.
tute section of the majority report
for section asamended. .
This motion had been made out OF
order by Mr.. G.. D. Tillman the night
before.
Mr.. B. R. Tillman moved to table,
but withdrew to allow Mr.. G. D. Till
man to speak.
Mr.. Tillman said he wanted make a
few remarks in reply to Mr.. McGowns
speech last night. He gave some
strong statements in regard to the rea-
son why the term ''pauper" counties
had been applied to certain counties
in Kentucky, quite different from
what the convention had understood.
He merely rose, he said, to take the
sting out of his frined's "pauper coun-
ty" argument. His young friend had
made statements that he should be
ashamed of.
MR.. OTIS ON RoSTATION.
Mr.. Otis said, in this State people
seldom rotated" Edgeield, the old
monopolistic county, had dominated
the second district, and she had con-
trolled the State Offices for years.
Senator Tillman-Whv don't you
speak to the questions
Mr.. Otts-The gentleman from
Edgefeld does not always speak to the
question. He has set me the example.
Naughter.)
Mr.. johnson of Sparntanburg op-
posed the substitute. Mr.. Burn sopke
in favor ofa minimum area Of 500
square miles.
Mr.. MCGOWAN stated that he did not
do or say things that he was ashamed
of. He thought his friend from Edge
field was unjustifed in sucha position.
Then he quoted what Governor Brown
of Georgia had said in the Constitu-
tional convention which put stop to
the formation of counties in Georgia:
"There is considerable number OF
counties in this State now, l believe
about 1877. There are number OF
them that do not pay as much money
into the State treasury of the State as
they draw out. They do not pay
dollar of the public debt, nor the ex-
penses of the government, nor even as
much money as the government Is
compelled to pay out on their account.
This matter of making up counties has
gone far enough"
There was spat between Messrs. Il.
D. Tillman and McGown, out OF which
neither seemed to make much. Mr..
Tillman said he would like to hear OF
any two counties anywhere that ever
asked to be consolidated into one when
once formed.
Mr.. D. S. Henderson asked Senator
Tillman if there was any way by which
counties could consolidate.
Mr.. Tillman-Yes, sir.
Mr.. Henderso Where?
Mr.. Tillman-In the Mississipp in
the Georgia and other Constitutions,
and I defy you to find an instance
where any county ever asked for a
consolidation.
Mr.. Patterson then stated that this
convention had expressed itself in this
matter pretty fully and he thought
this substitute should be tabled. There
was no use to put in this new matter.
They had already amended the section
to suit.
The substitute offered by Mr.. Jones
was then killed.
HOW 1T GOT THROUGH.
Section 1 was then adopted as a
whole in the following shape:
Section /. The general assembly
may, from time to time, establish new
counties in the following manner:
Whenever one-third of the qualified
voters within the area each section of
an old county proposed to be cut off
to form a new county shall petition
the governor for the creation of a new
county, setting forth the boundaries
and having complied with the require
ments of this article, the governor
shall order an election, within a rea-
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