Birmingham age-herald., 1895-07-29
CHAPMAN GROWS TALKATlvE
AND TELLS MUCH OF HOLMES CRIMES
Proves an Important Find and May Be of Great Service to Inspector Ftzpatrck4-Insur-
 ance Men Acting Queer


 police get from him all the information he will give. It is said that he knows entirely too much of Holmes and his skeletons to be an innocent man.
 It is what he claims to be the skull of Mrs. Conner which he brought to In- spector Fitzpatrick. He claims that the balance of the bones are now in the hands of young medical student, to whom he loaned them. The entire skel- eton will probably be in the hands of the police tomorrow, t"gether with that of Alma Williams. Chapman is quite posi- tive that he knows from whose bodies the skeletons were taken, and does not seem to realize that he can be made to tell where he acquired the information, or explain why he has held the intorma- ton secret.
 The mechanic was greatly startled when he found that the police knew of his existence or his connection with Holmes. He was drinking in a saloon carly yesterday and becoming slightly intoxicated let slip several remarks which are accountable for his being in the position in which he now finds him self. He at first denied all knowledge of Holmes or his doings, but said later that he would tell at least part of what he knew. He pleaded with the police to keep his name quiet, as he has two re- spectable sons, who are clerks in mer- cantle houses here.
 OlH)n iHIOTtDdliOn ODldlUtu IIOIn 1Hdp- man. Inspector Fitzpatrick tonight got possession of the trunk in which Holmes is alleged to have put the body of the Williams girl. The body was sent to house on Wentworth avenue, near Twen- tysecond street, for Chapman to work on.
 Chapman says that when he received the body there was only half of the flesh left on the bones-that the back of the head and the hair was intact. He cleaned the bones and set the skeleton for Holiness This skeleton, he alleges, is still in the city and early tomorrow morning he promises to take the police to it. He also says that the skeleton was disposed of by Holmes and that the pres ent holders are unawares that the fiend had ever anything to do with it, as the sale was made through an agent.
 Chapman was today taken to the Holmes house in Englewood. He pointed out two spots one on the northeast cor ner of the cellar and another under the sidewalk, where he claims the police will find beneath the surface two brick graves and he is of the opinion that a body may be found in one or both of them. An extra force of men will be put to digging for them early in the morning
 The machinist's transactions with Holmes seems to have been quite exten- slve. He admits making a trip to Daven-. port, la, to do a job for Holmes and came back to Chicago without doing anything. This was before the disap- pearance of Mrs. Connor and it is be- lieved Holmes original intention was to murder her there, but that his plans mis- carried at the time.
 Chapman further says that Holmes of- fered him $250 to set up the skeletons of two children. and that he refused to do it. When asked his reasons he became con- fused and said he simply disliked the job.
 There is no person who was ever con- nected with Holmes at the Englewood house whom Chapman does not know. When brought into the presence of Ouin- Ian this afternoon he greeted him very cordially and said: Hello, old man; how'r your"
 Chapman says Qunlan was not impli- cated in any of Holmes fiendsh crimes
 As to Quinlan Inspector Fitzpatrick claims to have sufficient evidence already to hang him.
 Quinlan was on the stand again today. He admitted some things which yesterday he denied. He was greatly confused, and has told so many stories that he cannot now remember what he has said.
 Inspector Fitzpatrick said tonight that he was on the track of Holmes go-be- tweens in Chicago He further said that there was number of women who were morally pure when they met Holmes who are today outcaSts and who do not come 1OfNdTu because they QO not want mdQe known their own disgrace. In fact. the accusation is now made, and not without foundation. that Holmes, for money consideration made habit of placing men on criminal intimate terms with women of whom he himself had tired.
 The inspector has about arrived at the conclusion that Robert F. Phelps whom it is said married Miss Cigrand,"is not among Holmes victims, as reported, but that Phelps is Holmes himself. No rec ord could be found of the marriage of Robert E. Phelps and Miss Cigrand, but a woman brought to the police to- night an engraved invitation to such marriage, and the license may have been obtained under still another alias
 The assistant chief of police was asked tonight how he a'eIiteh for Holmes making away with the Vantassel girl, if so he did, as she had no money and it is not known that there was any insur- ance on her life. He said: T do not know that the Vantassel girl was mur- dered. She is. however, missing, and believe Holmes was the cause. That scoundrel was it seems. irresistible to women and I think the Nantassel girl was either taken advantage Of and now stays away from home on account Of her disgrace or that there was insurance on her life The insurance idea is far from impossible"
 The insurance companies do not seem to be working in harmony with the po- lice and are giving out no information. A meeting of representative insurance companies and individuals swindled by Holmes was held yesterday in the office of Lawyer Chamberlain. The chief of police received information that such meeting was to be held and sent man to MT. Chamberlains office with re- quest that he be admitted as a repre- sentative of the police department but the officer was not admitted and was refused information at it's close. The police are unable to account for this. The trunk which contained, or is be- lieved to have contained, the body of the Williams girl was tonight removed to Inspector Fitzpatricks office and care fully examined. It is d cheap affair, but of good size The lining of it is covered with blood stains There was no work done al the Englewood house today, but the workmen will begin early tomorrow morning.
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