The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-03-02
IT WAS A SPICY MEETING
TILT BETWEEN DR. CREMIN AND
 RAILROAD MAGNATES.


 State, Veto and Olive Streets-ActiOn on
 the Petition Postponed.
 The meeting of the committee on rail roads and bridges last evening was un- usually interesting and at times quite exciting. Several of those present lost their temper, and this added to the excitement of the occasion. Every member of the committee was present. The meeting was called for the purpose of considering the petition of the Manu- facturers Street Railroad company for permission to lay a single track on James street, between Chapel street and Grand avenue, and also the petition of Philip Fleming and others for the placing of flagman at the junction of State, Veto and Olive streets.
 It was over the latter petition that the excitement arose. Liveryman Elem ing was the first witness to be heard in support of the petition. He claimed that the junction in question was yer itable death trap, and that 1t was a won- der that already there had not been
 
 that a flagman was a stern necessity at the place in question.
 Dr. M. A. Cremin of Olive street was the next speaker. He claimed that the Junction in question was exceedingly dangerous and stated that several weeks ago his carriage was run into at the place by an electric car of the New Haven Street Railroad company l,fe I, T his carriage badly wrecked. He also said that the road was run regardless of life and property, and that the com pany carried more passengers than even the Consolidated railroad.
 T hate to hear you stand up and lie that way" indignantly said President Corey of the New Haven Street railway company.
 You have the privilege of old age, and here is the second example of tnso- lence from the president of a railroad company. The other time the commit tee was insulted, now I am insulted. I appeal to the committee" replied Dr. Cremin.
 "No personalities, gentlemen" inter posed Chairman Macdonald, after which s. Harrison Wagner, attorney for the New Haven Street Railroad com pany, commenced to ask the doctor questions.
 You are practicing physician in this city, are you not?" queried MT. Wag- ner.
 q am,' replied the doctor
 Where were you born, doctor?" ask CT the attorney.
 "None of your business" sharply re- piled the physician, and immediately asked the attorney, Where was your father born. He can't speak good Eng lish"
 My father happened to be born in this country, anyway-Pennsylvan replied Attorney Wagner.
 "Oh, yes; see," said the doctor. "A Pennsylvania Dutchman-the worst kind of Dutchman."
 At this retort Attorney Wagner said that he would like to ask some questions if there was hope of getting an an- swer to which the doctor replied, "No exordiums, please. Ask your questions and hurry up about it."
 The attorney then proceeded, and in reply to his questions the doctor stated that he kept his horse at Fleming's stables and that he now had to have l man take his horse to the stable, as he | could not trust his boy with it owing to l the dangerous place at the junction. | Attorney Wagner then asked some ques- | tions in reference to the accident but | the doctor refused to answer them say | ing, T will answer those questions | with you in court"
 President Corey was the next speaker, | and claimed that the junction in ques- tion was one of the safest points in the city, and invited the committee to go down and see the place themselves. Manager Dodge claimed that if the court of common council ordered a flag man at the junction of State, Olive and Veto streets it might as well order a fagman at every corner. He denied that the management was reckless of human life and property, and said that on the other hand they used every pre- caution toward avertng accidents, even going so far as to call the motormen in two months to instruct them in ref erence to running the cars, etc., as precaution against accidents He also claimed that the cars were not run at dangerous rate of speed and that nine teen out of every twenty complaints were on the ground that the cars were run too slow. He claimed that the crossing was safe, and in clos ing said "I hate to hear a company that is trying to run it's cars safely ma ligned as it has been tonight" "Do you run cars on schedule time?" queried Dr. Cremin. We try to-" replied MT. Dodge. You beat the steam railroad time don't you?" persisted the doctor. q don't know anything about steam replied the manager.
 pr. Cremin-You don't dispute it, then? Manager Dodge-I didn't say so; you did. At this point Philip Fleming arose ( and stated to the committee that the cars ran on State street at times at the Q rate of fifteen to twenty miles an hour. This aroused Attorney Wagner, who said: q am shocked at the conduct of some men here this evening"" M q object" interposed Dr. Cremin. Y. My conduct will bear inspection as we'll as yours. I allow no strictures to 0 De placed on my conduct" s Attorney Wagner apparently took no V