The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1895-01-18

deducting from the total amount his ac-
| tual expenses. He concluded ms lohs
| statement by saying that ne was theh
/ under cover and requested that commune
| cations for him be sent under the address
| Of chief OF Police Murphy, In jersey city.
sFxr roMIINsoS AND wiTBERs on.
When the reading of this letter was
| concluded, Major Poe continued:
after I received this letter, | made
Tonllnson telegraph TO Norris TO stay
/ where nc was | was much impressed with
/ the detailed information the latter had
I given. and supposed that the latter was
( very close to the place where the gang
were IN hiding. / at once sent Tomlinson
and Withcrs on TO Jersey City. and later
in the day | telographed Norris over my
own signature TO remain in Jcrsey City
until Monday at noon. by shat time ]
| expected Messrs Tomlinson and Withers
would reach there. At the very hour,
however. when / thought all three would
meet IN Jersey City, ! saw Norris enter
the door OF my Office. OF course / was
greatly surprised. and asked him what
he was doing here, and If he had not re-
ceiyed my kilograms. lie answered that
question H. the negstiv.. but after his
arrest the two kilograms were found in
his pocket.
lie succeeded In dispensing my sus-
piciOns ..- 20 his statements regarding
Parker hy numerous letters AID photo
graphs which he produced. and ] would
not have had him arrested IL It had not
been for &r. II. NJ. Smith
Subsequently / received n number Of
letters I'm regard to Mr. Norris which
gave him rather bad name. They Get
forth that he was following up gold brick
cases, ana in almost every instance II an
aged TO obtain from the victims $40 or
$500, promising 10 hunt down the crlmi-
nails. but don't think that ne ever made
an arrest. Mr.. Norris had his yalise near
~ filled with acquisitions from various
| States: they must have been sevcnty-tve
or hundred. and ! nave never seen so
many before In my life. Tho letters which
J received about HIM called him a shake
down detective. an expression which !
have never heard before, and which
means vulture Of "A low order who
takes all that has been left by the
others.
mAJ)E POE CROSSE EXAMINED.
ON cross-cxaminatfon 10y Mr.. j.. G.
Richardson. the counsel OF MIR. Norris.
/ witness admitted that lie was not testi-
tying to what he knew 10y his own know
ledge At thc time when he received
Norris letter Parker had been arrested.
lie felt satisfied that the writer knew
something Of the parties involved, for he
described in detail their methods of pro-
cedurc.
At this junctuIe Mr.. II. VI. Smith in
terJcct,d that all this information had
appeared i'm Saturdays issue of the news
papers, and It mignl have been copied by
Norris from the Richmond papers.
Major Poe then continued: 'fhc letter
gave d description and showed a thorough
knowledge OF the whole business so that
concluded Norris knew all about it.
Since then some eight or nine people from
various parts Of the United States have
been here who were swindled by the
same gang. and almost in the same man
ner. 1t was reasonable to suppose that
Nor is had received his information from
other victims. ] thought that in this
instance ne was only trying to do what
ne had done previously-to get some
money out of the case.
private detectives are frequently en-
ployed. If parties write TO me TO send
on a detective, and do not know them. !
ask thcm to send on some money to de
fray the expenses. If ! believe them to
be responsible persons, ] 90 right on with
the case. The payment Of 800 I'm such
instances would not be unreasonable.
rhe Valisc Of Mr.. Norris has been in the
custody Of the police nearly all the time.
He showed me the acquisitions I'm his pos
session. and think they are all genuine
WAS HrbE ONCE BEFORE.
con his arrival i'm my office / told Mr..
Norris that | had sent man on TO Jcr-
scy city but this was only after he mad
denied shat ne had received my tcle-
grams. which were subsequently found in
his pocket When he came to my Of
nee / do not think ne had been in this
city long He called on me between II
and - o'clock on Monday and during our
conversation he told me that he had been
I'M this city at least ten years ago win
q man whom he mad under arrest ana
that / locked him up over night, IN order
10 give him rest.
- ,e,,.d Norris in my telegram 20 stay
where ne was. i'm Jersey city because !
thought he was IN close proximity 70 the
thieves While Norris was talking TO me
on that Monday ! received telegram
stating That Parker was Frank i. Smith.
At that time | thought he was. as ne
pretended to be. q hOrse-dealer from Ten
uessee. Norris also told me that Parker
was Frank Lockwood Smith, and what he
said about him mas all been corroborated
bv subsequent kilograms ana letters. The
fact. however. that Norris told me ne
had not received my kilograms showed
me that he could not be depended upon
KNEW THyKE WAS AN INDIAN N IT.
lie told me that Parker was not a
horse dealer. and he showed me papers
stating that Parker had gotten about
100000 worth Of stun mat he had taken
from different parties When Nh W!thers
tpl me his experience in the presence
of Mr. Joseph Bryan, / asked him
whether there was not an Indian III the
story. for ! had read OF such experiences
before Norris showed me Parkers PIE
turc / don't think that Norris came
here to get Parker off, only TO get $lOO
or 500 from Mr.. Withers. | knew he
c3uld come here from Jersey city for a
few dollars. / thought that he came mere
+, see Mir. Withers, but he had no OPP
porunity TO do so; l desired 10 protect
Wthers Some seven or eight different
peopIe came here from various parts OF
the country. as / understand, upon tele-
grams sent by Norris. | have telegram
now from the commemorative Attorney
of the town from which Bowner hailed
from. asking me TO hold Parker Tor Bow
ner if ne should get off here. The people
whom | saw thought it was all rlsht "heh
ne asked for 500 or 500 10 pay expenses
After a short tilt between counsel, Il
was agreed that all the letters In Inc
case should toe admitted. The accused
had done nothing in this city. to MS
knowledge. that made him d'strustful, eN-
cent 10 tell him a story about the teie-
gram. cOntir ucd Major Poe.
DOES Nog Try LIARS
Gentlemen, | am not trying liars here,
the Cour, interjected; If | did ! would
sit here al day"