The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-03

An.
In connection with this, 1 referred to
the fact that in the church to which
Mr.. Roberts and myself belong, this
right is recognized and exercised, for
the women of the church vote as we'll
as the men, and vote independently
and Of their own Volition. And I added
that if church which is generally
though mistakenly supposed to be IL
liberal, especially to women, could af-
ford 10 recognize that right, the state
Of Utah could afford to be equally lib
eral.
THAT is what I said and that is
what 1 meant. did not say, or mean,
or intimate, that the state Of Utah
should model it's institutions after
those Of the Mormon church.
The Last Person.
$50 far as the charge of bringing
into this discussion matters that ought
to have been left out Of 1t is con-
cerned, 1 have this to say, that while
1 do not see anything improper in
what 1 said, I should sit down quite
comfortably under a vote to the con-
trary if carried by non-partisan ma
jority of this committee. But grant
ing, for arguments sake. that what
said was improper, it seems ito me that
the last person TO cast stone should
have been the gentleman from Salt
Lake, Mr.. Macintosh, who called me
to account for it upon this floor And
yet he was the first signer of the
minority report, the cause of all the
acrimony exhibited during this de-
BATE
In closing, he reaffirmed his original
position, that woman suffrage meant
progress and advancement, and that
all the pleas against it were pleas for
non-progression.
Raleigh Takes a Hand.
Roberts took the floor and the audi
ence waited for him to begin.
Raleigh however. said that the inter-
ests of his constituents demanded that
he speak. He said that he had been I'M
able TO get in on Saturday. He was
given the floor. He said the right of
suffrage was an inherent right of wo-
men. Every woman who had been
born in this country during the last
100 years had that right. He said Lin
coin had been forced to knock the
shackies off the slaves. He believed it
was better to knock the shackles off |
women before it was forced. He favor
ed right and justice. These demanded |
woman suffrage.
AS soon as he finished there were re- |
newed calls for Roberts. and Chairman |
WINS called upon him to close the de-
bate. The applause with which the |
speaker was greeted provoked the t
chair in warning the audience that
they must not interrupt the speaker.
Roberts spoke as follows:
A Right and Il Courtesy.
I congratulate the convention that |
the discussion is now about to draw to
d close. All the gentlemen who desire
to speak have expressed their views. I
take it, sir. that it is not only a
courtesy which has been extended to
me to close this discussion. but I be-
leVe in consequence of my relation
ship to it, it is my right to do so. Log
cally. the position of affirmative ought
to have been taken by the gentlemen
who have opposed me on this PROPOSE
ton. and indeed I endeaVored to urge
them to do So making a special re-
quest of the gentleman from Salt Lake,
Of the Fourth precinct CWhitney), who
entranced the convention by his elo
luence. to do so. but he declined. And
hence the privilege of bringing it to a
conclusion has devolved upon meas.
privilege I would have been willing to
nave accorded him had he taken his
ogical position upon the question.
There are, sir. a few personal matters
hat it is necessary for me to refer to
before proceeding directly to the sub
ect of debate. and that grow out of the
emarks made by one Of my colleagues
rom Davis county (Barnesl. in which
lie read a letter. addressed to me from
he chairman of the Democratic COM
nittee of Davis ccunty-the gentleman
Who subsequently gave me notice that
must either change my position on
his question, or they would be COM
,elled to ask me to resign.
His Reply ForestaIIed.
My colleague said I had paid no at
ention to that letter. l think at the
ime he forgot that the day after l I
eceived the letter. and before an an
wer could be sent, the gentleman who
Trote it, together with another pronin- {
mt Democrat of Davis county, waited ,
pon me in this building; we had a {
ong interview upon the subject matter
f that letter; as we drew our inter-
lew to a close l told him that our
difference in rela ton TO it would OBJ
east for a few days. to which ne as
east for a few days to which he as
ented. 1 had the letter 1 intended to
end him a reply, nearly completed
ither close my mouth on this subject
T resign, came to hand, and my reply
0 that course shut off all further ne
essity of consideration Of that subject
refer to this because do not wish to
e placed in a position before this con- s
ention of being either disrespectful {
r inattentive to my constituents. 1 ,
hould always treat them with the
reatest respect and listen to whatever
uggestions they might have to offer
lie. so long as 1 am their representa-
We. !
Did Him Justice.
The gentleman did me justice who. l
poke on the occasion to which l refer;
aat is. he did me the justice to tell
} this convention that he was the man :
tho met me after the convention in
avis county had nominated me for
elegate; that when a proposition was {
ltroduced binding the delegates to :
-ork for and vote for suffrage. he him
Elf refused to be bound and instructed /
/ that way. The gentleman. however. c
of the opinion that there was q mod 7
led resolution passed by that con- G
ention in Davis county, and perhaps,
r. that is correct; the gentleman may t
2 entirely correct in regard to it. :
But. sir, there was no mention of r
lat matter in the minutes that were {
lbliShed Of the action of that conVen- 2
on. 1 took occasion. on Saturday r
ght, to 20 through the files Of the 4
alt Lake Herald. until at last l OBJ 9
lined copy Of those minutes, and .
entlemen will look in vain in them : !,
II any reference whatsoever to wo- :
an suffrage matters.
Thought of Declining.
These published minutes. with the
nversation had with the gentleman,
nee was not in Davis county and in .
intact with my people. were the only s
ingS upon which ! could draw my j;
nciusions in regard to the extent to {:
hich members from that county were Il