The Norfolk Virginian. [volume] (Norfolk, Va.) 186?-189?, 1895-07-06

Neely, TINT it was confessed that Mr..
Massey did mako this deed to avoid
paying unjust debts, and that you
argued npon that point aud stated that
you commended him for it,"
Mr.. Nicely replied that he never oon-
ceded anything Of the kind. | argued
that MIR. Massey made decd to secure
his just debts over his unjuat.
MIR. Byrd said: $50 far as l know
the creditors existing mt the time-the
Rockingham creditors got nothing"
Mir. Nicely asked if 1t was true as to
oil OF MIR. Masseys creditors as the
statement in the article implied,
MIR, Byrd said he did not know and
did not wish to qualify any statement
he Lad mado.
la 1t true, as stated in this article.
that MIR. and Mrs. Massey made trip
to Mexico, Gnd that trip being made
three months before they were mar.
ried?
Witness said he based that statement
on what he heard. He did not know
ut The time 1t was not true; il was from
heresny; said hc had no actual knowI.
edge about the trip, or that he ever
went to Mexico.
NOT 1NFALLIBLE,
Mr. Neely asked if this was one of
facts which the witness referred 20
Wednesday, when he snid it was the
convergence of II number Of facts i'll re.
gard TO MIR. Massey that caused him to
wrlto tho statements in the alleged
llhelous article.
Witness replied that if that statement
in the Pilot article hnd been correct
1t would have been one Of the converg-
lug iacts referred to; that the witness
Is net infallible.
Then that is one of the statements
that yon have not evidence to prove as
claimed?
! used the word evidence in its usual
acceptatlou, meaning that i could prove
the facts contained in the article in n
general way. did not mean that |
could put my hand on any witness. sin
the United States. 1t il true t6a.
some of the statements are hearsay.
Judge Neely asked the witness what
he meant by saying that MIR. Massey
got So, 900 in 1891.
81 did not see Mr.. Massey pick il ND
or see anybody give it to him. | do
not know that he got 1t in that man
ner. | wrote to Charlottesville for a
copy Of the deed to tho house aud lot,
and upon information received snid
Air. Massey paid 80, 900 for Ash Lawn"
MIR. Payne said to me that Mr..
Massey told him that he intended TO
present 1t to lis wife as birthday
present.
Dad not MIR. Payne deny that state
ment, asked Judge Nicely?
Mr.. Payne's statement now Is differ
ent from what he told me he said to
L..
Mr.. Massey told me himself that he
furnished part OF the purchasing
money, snd | believe he furnished ali
OF it.
Judge Neely questioned Mr. Byrd
III regard to tue Inaccuracies OF the
article, and MIR. Byrd replied that he
might Mnke some changes IN the article
II he had tn write 1t over again,
What about Harvey's grammar"
vi was mistaken about that and
would leave out that statement; also
about the trip TO Mexico"
In reply TO MIR. Nicely, concerning
tho "junketlng trip to Canada." wit
ness says When | wrote 1.-THE retur
from this junket," / meant MIR, Mas
sey 's trip to Canada. | meant that ms
the reward for the trip to Canada.
sey's) expenses on that trip.
SENATOR FLOOD FURNISHED COPY.
Judge Nicely asked why he charged
TINT Nomnck was indicted in Washing.
tonton State, he did not say that the
indictment had been dismissed.
MIR. Byrd said he did not know IT
when he wrote the article. Senator
Flood furnished copy OF tho indict
ment; Mr.. Wise told him that Womack
put III plea OF Insanity.
"Dld yon ever make Disclaimers"
'No sir, | never published the fact
that the indictment was dismissed"
In regard to witness failure to got
Secretary McGlvary's telegram in
time to attend the meeting of the
Board OF Education in Richmond. wit.
ness said that he was not at home when
tue telegram reached there; was in
Washington, and it reached him there
the day after 1T was sent 10y MIR. Nc.
Gllvery.
With reference to visiting Governor
O'Fcrrali to put Tarbell's Language
Lessons on tho State book list, witness
said that the Governor gave q satisfac.
tory reply. When asked by Mr.. Neely
what witness meant by satisfactory"
lie said the Governors reply was a din.
lomntic one.
During the course of the cross exam.
ination. witness said he thinks that At.
torney- -deneral Scott is one of the
highest men In the country, aud wit.
ness doesn't believe that Governor
OfEpFfalI Was ',pnnrooohaI.D tlot -