The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-01-09
BLAIR DENIES II.
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nlade.''
That was the first time. and at no.
other time ~
At no other time.
Counsel here asked witness if he knew
anything about the returns from the
Third precinct but the question was
ruled out on the ground that the Third
do with Sanpete
DO You know man named Green
man ?'
mo.
Did he not come to you to get a.
key of the commission room
Did you, with him. go into the com
mission room?
when did you first learn there were
discrepancies in Sanpete?''
7 heard John 7. Game say there were
irreguR.fities.
Was that before the returns were
canyassed p
Yes
them
!, Z don't know, he may have been or
Did you ever talk with Mr. Thatcher
about the returnsa"
No, never.
Had you any talk about the ma
jority in the constitu tional lcony ention %
No, not that I remember"
Joseph NJ. Cohen Next.
Joseph NJ. Cohen in reply to Mr.. VIII
Hams said he was employed by the Utah
commission TO er1gross the forms for
making up the returns upon
How many of those blanks did you
make out?''
all AS9 -
Did you insert any figures In the
blanl1s?'
ANo.''
Did you perform any other service
for the commissions"
NO"
Did you handle or have any access
to the returns?
NO
did you know of any irregularities
or discrepancies in the returns?'
Not until | read it in the papers,
cross examined by Attorney Zane,
witness said ne first heard of the dis
crepanc1es after the commission had
made UP the returns. Had never heard
anyone talk of the discrepancies until
it was published in the paper. Had
never handled nor seen '.he Sanpete
returns
/ NonNl1ss1OneF N OrFell.
Commissioner Norren said in reply
! to Mr.. Williams that he was present
at all the meetings of the Utah com.
mission since Nov. /. Was there when
the returns from Sanpete county were
| opened.
Where were the returns from San
pete kept?"
From Nov. 20 to Nov. % in the large
room of the commission and after
that, at the suggestion of Mr. Sherman
they were locked up in the secretary S
SAFE
We're all the returns locked in the
only the sanpete returns; there was
not space enough in the safe for them
all and the others We're locked up in
a closet TO which a yale lock had been
obtained some time before
Who had the key of the closet?"
my. Letcher.''
No" -'@- ~ q NY ~
How is the large room fastened?"
! There were three doors to it, two
locked on the inside with a thumb lock
and the other by an ordinary lock; tc
the latter Mr.. Letcher carried the
key
led to the crosses on the poll list al,
legged to have been made fraudulent
ly?''
In court, during this investigation.
Your attention was never called tc
them by any other member of the com
Inission?'
No"
Have you any knowledge of these
marks and changes being made?"
None Whatever
Mr.. Zane asked whether it was be,
fore or after the commission had can.
vassed the Sanpete returns that Mr.
Sherman and his accountant haC
looked them over, to which witness re
Piled that it was after.
Commissioner Thatcher
Commissioner Thatcher next tool
the stand, and said he was presen
when the election returns wer,
brought in, the seals broken and tn,
returns sorted. He was present a
most of the meetings of the commits
sion since November l. Had just COM
in from Logan last night and had no
been in court before during this in
) vestigation. Witness described hov
, and where the returns were kept, an
his statement correspondent with tina
of Mr.. Norrel1 and the other member
of the commission.
Counsel called witness attention t
the alleged forged crosses and the wor
: voted written opposite the names
: and asked when he first Learned of it.
: Witness said he knew nothing of
until he read the report of this pro
ceeding in the papers. He has n
; knowledge of how, when where or b
| whom the alleged forgeries were com
mitted. No member of the Utan com
: mission had ever called his attentio
l | to the alleged changes.
C'ross-examined by Attorney Zane:
"Whep did you first hear of the dis
crepancies in the Sanpete raturns?"
when we canvasSed them.
did you never hear of them bs
fore%'
81 think Mr.. Dininny intimated t
: the commission that there were irregu
r larities"
"Who was it intimated this; John
Game, wasn't it?"
: No; [ think it was Dininny.'
> Were you the first to propose goin
: to the ballot boxes %
: 81 don't know whether 1 was {
. not"
He was asked whether Letcher, Ia
J. lock, Norrell or Sherman first sugges
! ed going into the boxes and answere
that he could not say VINO first suE
n gested 1T.
e .sDid you hear of any discrepancit
5 in the Sanpete returns when john =
Il Game and A e. Hyde were in Sanpet
: after the election?'
e mo, the only animation L recall no
e was the written document sent to tt
e commission by Mr.. Dininny.
+ The communication referred to WE
s produced and put in evidence 10y NJ
d Williams. 1t was from Dininny.
o "On what date did you object to NJ
d Sherman copying figures from the L
) turns?" asked Mr. Zane.
@ L don't remember the date
Mr.. Dininny's communication w;
= read. as follows:
e Nov. 10, 1894.
v " ''Hon. J. R. Letcher:
u s.Dear Sir-It has come to my know