Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1895-10-12
Bishop Turner Wants Two Million
Negroes to 60 to Africa.
AID FROM TIE GOVERNMENT
He Regards the Outlook for the
Race Here Unpromising.
Fl O P E IN. LIB E R I A


Methodist Episcopal Church, and the apos-
tie of negro emigration to Africa, is now in
this city. having recently returned from
visit to Africa, where he has the Supervi-
sion of the churches of his connection The
presence in this country at this time also
of DR.. Edward NJ. Blyden of Africa who
represented Liberia at the court OF ST.
James, has started anew the discussion OF
the subject of the emigration of the Ameri-
can negro to Africa. DIR. Blyden is opposed
to the wholesale emigration of the Amerl-
can negro to the dark continent, and
says that hundred years from now will
be time enough for the American negro to
consider the colonization of Africa. Bishop
Turner thinks differently, and says that
now is the time, and that the future OF the
negro in America is dark. The bishop has
been instrumental in having many colored
families 90 from the south land to AFRICA,
and thinks as yet it is the promised iahd
for the negro. A Star reporter visited
Bishop Turner today. and after submitting
10 the bishop DR.. BIyden's views as to AT.
RIGA and the American negro, asked MIN II
he was. in the face of Dr. Blyaen.s views Hs,
still favorable to the wholesale emigration
Of the American negro to Africa.
Gradual Emigration.
He said: NO. 1 have never favored the
wholesale emigration of the negro to At
r:ca. Such a proposition would be foolish
and suicidal to the race, if the race was
simple enough to embrace it. The coloni-
cation of 10.UoUuO0 negroes in any part OF
Africa in a mass would entail vast suffer-
ing and dying. But l do favor gradual
emigration of the negro from this country
to the republic of Liberia. l favor Liberia
as an objective point because it Is the
great negro republic. Black men control It,
The president, cabinet generals, legislators
and all that constitute the machinery of
the government and carry on its msrchan-
disc are negroes. or. rather, should nave
said. Africans. This is vast domain, and
it is one of the most interesting spots or
the globe. and the only place tfat has any
form of national organization where the
American negro could go and find ready
welcome and be Il man among men,
His Reasons.
When asked why he was so ardently in
favor of the emigration of the negro to
Africa the bishop said it was because there
was no manhood future for the negro in
America. Il see." he said. mo future for
the negro here and how anybody else can
is a mystery to me. He has no civil rights
Under the government; his enfraHchlsement
is a mere bagateHe. and that soon VIII be
gene. He is DISTINGUISHED IN Miss:ssippl,
il few days VIII be disfranchised in
South Carolina. other states will follow,
ana the general government Will do moth
ing about it. Ana instead of the condition
Of tie negro as c-Xil and political factor
Nothing less thaH nation controlled by
negroes will eNessceS'mahd the respect OF
the civilized worlt FIST SO soon as the ne
gro establishes a%;vt;zea country and does
scneth ching OF woAlssand merritt nothing
more than makasn aAg speech on his own
terrstory-just SO Asssl will the world looa
at him ana place asas oais n o. n:s m n. d.
it. either All ! saa: is a,mn."1 of se!f-re-
liant negroes to sngags III the great work
which embraces he 5nsara hope of the ne
- k.S. NJ .',f,sS
gro. and the hot, Chg a tsSs Ghs soni
, be the -. rn bit OF nissraty Of them
He nses Nbt- Agree.
How abcut Dr. Blyden's IDEAS as to negro
cEnisratton to Africa was the next cues
tion submitted to- the bishop. and he re-
piled: DR. Blyden believes that u small
emigration. even 1T the present time. will
do no harm. but he thinks anything like
an exodus should be deferred for 4 hun
drei or two years. when all Of the old
slaves and ,reir descendants for few
generations shall have dted out and a more
independent and race-adm!rinS generation
shall have been hol and raised up. he
believes that tie American negro is too
much tainted with a desire to 80 away
from his own race. In short, too ANXIOUS
10 De white. and that they would not be
controlled by one another But l believe
that the very thing that DR.. Blyden com
plains CT row will he wars. a hundred
years hence. II CIR chldrens children are
hcrn anc; raised up under the impression
That to be black i a diSGrace-as they
will ;pe III this Countrywide same condition
of thiass will exist then as now.
The American negro has rot as much
race r,r:le now is he had when he was
first enancpated. ard it will rot increase
under present environments There is no
great conflict between us as to the two
positions. The conflict is as to the time
shat The work should be begun. l believe
boz no and ~ "a
should ,,.It it's hands in its pocket to help
us. while Dr.. Biyden believes that the
movement should not take definite form for
a hundred years
Government Should Pay.
Do you mean that the general government
should deTray the expenses which would
be incident to the transportation of the
negro to Africa?
/ Il do, / mean that al who desire to go
should he assisted by the general govern
ment. This nation owes the negro S4O.-
U;H, tgll,mG, for actual services rendered dur
ing the ~; years he was in slavery. And
instead of trying to lynch us to DEATH
trying to jim Crow cal Us to death, trying
to disfranchise rs to death, and uncivil
right us to death. and subiecting us to a
thousand other forms of death and degra-
dation. it ought to cut some steamships
between bore and Africa and let all who
want to go. go to Africa free"
How mucn would it cost to carry all Of
the negroes who desire 10 so to Africa"
1T would cost S2nWDOo0. At least 2,oO0.-
$50 negroes are ready to leave for Africa
at moments notice, and $40 each would
meet the cost of actual expenses for
| transportation. Very few would go with
| out enough TO suDsist on until they could
| raise som ething And those that had moth
| ing could lie employed to work for those
| who had something. The Liberia govern
| ment will gladly give every married couple
| twenty-five acres of land. who will go and
settle en- it, or lard could be bought from
| 20 cents &c $40 an acre. if they were dis
satisfied with the location of the land
given" a.