Willmar tribune. [volume] (Willmar, Minn.) 1895-1931, 1895-08-06


i books tnat We are using .in THIS debate.
And the books that 81 have had here have.
Ibeen on this table for M r. Horr's use IL
he wanted then. No such .subterfuge as
that will save the gentleman In making
quotations iii this 1ebate,A the authorities
for (which he has not producer here for
our inspection (Applause.) ~ now read
you; Mr.. @Horr on this subject from the
Census Bulletin of the census of 1890 now
lin my band. l read you this paragraph:
New York is the congested part Of a
large urban region and q greater New York
may more fairly be. taken into considera-z
ton. ~ In New York city and the nine
counties In New York state and New Jer-
sey that are neishbOring to that city 81 "a
| per cent of the home families are tenants,
Now as to your city of New York ''The
| highest degree Of city, home tenancy IS
| In New York and is represented by 1857
| per cent. Ninety-three and -sixty-seven
hundreths per cent of the families In your
| city zare tenants. - - r, =; 49,,
= Mr. Horr-l have this to. say in reference
| to- my. conduct of this debate without
bringing In my books, and I allude to that
reminding you of the gustO, for which
Brother Harvey Is SO peculiar, with which
he says: II now pass the book over to
Mr.. Horr," when he knows that 1t is i'm
| possible for Inc during the excitement of
the debate to examine and look into the
merits of the book or his references. The
| only times when l have done it, have
caught him In misquoting the book and
made him own it right here before the
| audience. .es
= Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr, that is not true.
Mr.. HOrr-The audience knows whether
/ that is trne or not. -,-: '--
Mr.. Harvey-The record of the debate
| will show 1t.
Increase Of Gold.
Mr. Horr said that he would admit that
| the quantity Of gold in the world had not
| increased as fast as the business of the
world; but it was not necessary. One
| hundred dollars would now do more than
| two thousand dollars would formerly.
| Ninety-fve per cent of the business was
done without the use of gold except as a
| standard Of measure. He illustrated the
| case by citing Il stream on which there
| was an old-fashioned mill. Let other
modern mills be constructed along this
stream and by using the same water the
| output would be vastly increased.
Mr.. Harvey, replying, made another APP
| pl1cation OF the comparison of the stream
| to money. Suppose, he said, that mills had
been built along the stream and their ma
chinery adapted to it. Then suppose that
| suddenly one-half of the flow of that
| stream were cut off. How would it affect
the mills? Suppose, again, that certain Der
sons should divert the water Of this
stream, store 1t III great reservoirs and
charge the mills a toll for it's use. That
would be a parallel case to that of the
relation of the people and the banks at
| present. Mr.. Harvey gave figures showing
the number OF homicides In the United
| States from 1882 to 1891, the number Of
| suicides, the number of convicts in prison,
etc. He attributed these to decreasing
| wages ana the increasing value of money
He said he pointed out these things be-
cause they Indicated national disease;
q disease threatening the life of the re-
| public. 1t was necessary to honestly dag
| nose the disease in order to apnly the
remedy. All republics had fallen from the
same causes. When they reached a point
where the control of the necessar;es of
life fell into the hands of selfish men. q
monarchy became logical and necessary.
| ''The masses became res tlcss-why? Be-
cause they have become poor; because
they have been deprived of the necessaries
| OF life. They become restless, then comes
| crime, as l am now giving you from the
statistics in this debate. Then come pover-
ty and suicide and insanity. The country
| goes morally and politically crazy. Then
| comes the
| Necessity of Mnrtinl Law;
then comes the necessity for Calling guns
| and repeating rifles, for an increase of the
police and for standing army. In the last
| three Or five months and for the first time
| In the history OF the United States, a gen.
| eral order has gone from the ID esident of
| the United States to the commander of the
army, laying down rules for governing the
United States army in the control of mobs
and riots. (Anplause1 We are trendng to
| monarchy, and 1t Is wrong for Mr.. Horr or
any other man to shut his eyes to this de-
feet In our civilization that 1 am now
j pointing out. If you would save liberty in
this land. II sou would preserve this, the
! United States, from the fate OF Europe. 1t
Is your duty to do it, and 1t should become
your pleasure to do 1t, and to do it you
will act like intelligent men and you will
act like freemen.' (Applause)
| Mr.. Horr-"I could not stop him, because
| he was enjoying himself so we'll He gets
! SO much comfort out of denouncng the
| human race that was letting him revel in
his glory Mr.. Horr said that the panic of
1893, whose effect Mr. Harvey had dilated
| on was chiefly due to a fear on the part
of the people of this country of a return
to the silver standard. Mr.. Harvey, said
| Mr.. Horn, had laid the crucitixon of the
| Savior at the door of the money power
| among the Hebrews. The record showed
that the Savior was betrayed by Judas the
| only silver man among the twelve, and, 1t
should be noted, insisted OH a ratio of 30
to 1. AS to the diversion of half of the
| water from the stream Mr.. H0rr said that
If the other half furnished NIL of the water
| Accucu tAC HILLS WOulu NE NucCLcu
! all.
! Mr.. Harvey, replying, said that under the
| bank credit system VIC had always had
panics, and we always would have them.
! The panic of 1857 was not due to a change
In the coinage, but to the bank credit sys-
tenn. In answer to Mr., Horr's statement
| that the great mass Of the debts of the ma
ton were short-time debts, and therefore
| not contracted before the passage of the de-
mOnetizati0n act, Mr.. Harvey quoted from
the Bankers Magazine, showing an aggre-
gate In a half-dozen of the larger longtime
debts Of $19,OO0,000
! =. > Too bad!
Mr.. Harvey sail: .'This debate is coming to
a close virtually to-day, because on Monday I
shall speak exclusively upon the Independent action
/ Of the United States.'' Mr. Harvey denied Mr..
suit Of improved facilEiez Said he: lit is the
supply pro1,N ed and the demand for it that regu-
late the price of such products Suppose widow,
| owning farm, receives the voluntary. assistance
| OF her neighbors to raise and harvest her wheat
crop. VIII her wheat be worth any less than
encc known to the |traders. and the estimated
demand for it? II all the corn crop in the United
States We're destroyed except the crop in Iowa.
| would the Iowa; crop be governed by the cost of
production or the relative. supply and demand
for cornt Tie cost of the product has nothing to
for 10 cents that is Worth $so The fact that TIT Il
cost him 10 cents does not make it worth less
! Mr.. Horr: eA1r Harvey is nystiaed because he
takes it for granted that the business of country
entirely depends upon the amount per capita Of
the circulation medium. He insists that If you
skrin, that yon ruin the business in the country.
There are a large number of men who believe
4 that doctrine. hut no more transparent hunbug
7 was ever taught the people Of this any other
i country. Money is a plethora in this country
to-day: There are hundreds Of millions of dollars
lying idle simply because there is nobody to Use
i It. Did YOU know that? Why, my friend Harvey
and all OF you men who think that way usual
get the tart before the horse. It Is not an ahmd-
nNfy1 f1sVk N,,n1sH
thlsjy.css atSnakes nlteys active In this world
OF otirs. applause. And until YOU can comprehend