The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-04-04
DR. SMITH ON THE STAND.
GAVE IMPORTANT EVIDENCE IN
 THE GILHULH TRIAL.

THE GILH ULK TRIAL.
 Was on the Witness Stand for Three Hours
 His Examination Unfinished--Several
 Important Points Brought out-Trial
 Will be Resumed Next Thursday.
 The trial of Police Commissioner Dam Tel s. Gilhuly upon charges preferred by Councilman Charles R. Frisbie was re- sumed last evening before the board of aldermen, and the testimony was at timesso interesting that all present list ened with rapt attention. Six members of the board were not present, the ab- sentees being Aldermen Belden, Leary, Moore, Parish, Macdonald and Smith.
 The hearing was conducted in the councilmanic chamber, which was crowded almost to suffooation, and many of the spectators were so much interested in the proceedings that they were content to remain standing through out the entire evening. The only wit ness of the evening was Rev. Dr. Smyth, and his sstestimony was unusual ly spicy and interesting.
 pr. Smyths testimony was substan- tially as follows:
 q have resided in this city since the fall of 1882 Since that time, the latter part especially, I have taken consider able interest in the carrying out of the laws, and have investigated the work ings of the police department. During that time I have had occasion to know something about MT. Gilhuly I have no personal knowledge of anything in reference to MT. Gilhuly, and have been present at no conversation between him and any police officer. I have, however, been told by about twenty officers of the effect produced upon them by MT. GilhuIy in reference to the enforcement of the laws.
 The names of these officers are Cap tain O'Keefe, Officers Toronto, Doran, Roche, Clancy, Sergeant McGrath and Officer Lonergan. The officers told me of conversations had with Commission CT Gilhuly, some of them in reference to the liquor law and some in reference to other matters. have heard from other officers that they were personally influenced in their conduct by remarks made by Commissioner Gilhuly to them These officers have told me that they have failed to prosecute liquor viola lions with vigor on account of the com- missioners remarks. Some of the of ficers said they were influenced by re- marks of the commissioner. The off, cers who said they were of the opinion that it would be better not to prosecute with vigor violations are as I remem- ber, Jackson, possibly Sergeant Brad ley, Officer Hyde. They have made re- marks to me, put I cannot swear posi- lively that they said that they them selves were discouraged by Gilhuly's In reference to the liquor law the officers were Cooper, Toronto, Ser- geant Bradley, Sergeant McGrath. will not say positively that any of these officers accused themselves of not doing their full duty.
 Has any of the police force told you that any other officer was prevented from doing his duty? inquired MT. Ely
 Yes" replied the witness.
 "Who were they?"
 q should say Officers Cooper and Po- ronto told me this"
 What remarks were you told Com missioner Gilhuly made to any officer in TeleTence lo lHe eHIOrCeLnenC OI the liquor law?"
 q have heard officers say, What the devil fs the use of our breaking our necks when commissioners don't want us to-? I heard similar remarks, should say, from a dozen officers. heard Sergeant McGrath say so before the police Investigating committee. I also heard Sergeant Bradley, Officer Jackson and Officer Hyde make the same remarks
 What called forth these remarks?"
 "They were called forth in reply to the | question, What was it that prevented | the enforcement Of the liquor law?'"
 What, if any, remarks were made | to show that the officers were infiu~ | enced2"
 T have heard Captain O'Keefe say that he thought the fault lay with the | commission itself, when one or more commissioners will vote in the board to require that the law be observed and then come out and do all they can to nullify their vote"
 "Did Captain O'Keefe give the names of any officers who made such remarks as that there was no use to do any thing in reference to the liquor busi- ness?"
 ''He did not, but he did say that fully of the officers had come to the conclusion that it were better for them to let the liquor business alone. As for the reason for this he said it was because of the influence of at least one who would try to nullify the whole matter" replied the doctor
 Dr. Snyth-Sergeant McGrath also said that the officers were hindered in this respect and that his reason for 1t was that there was a lack of zeal owing to the fact that there were two com missioners on the board who made their living out of the liquor business. Bradley also said words which were practically to the same effect. He also said that he had heard officers say, What the devil is the use of us doing anything when the commissioners don't : want us tor" He could not give the name to the officers but said he had heard 1t generally talked about. I also heard Officer McDermott say that the did not want the liquor aw enforced, but his statements were # a general character. I also heard Officer Hyde say that he had heard