New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-06-02

anorncl into this country Is hopeless for the next
Twenty-Five months
II appears that Mr.. ThIrsion. VIM" i"""''""
Minister 20 Washington. even IN III" i"'' 90 '
slant a. .couiArem,nf. sonhnt zAl''''y 10 ''''" So
Admin. .tratfaA 20 &C. realization Of tho many AZ
,...,,...s hat vouiI accrue t. hc United states
thr.l.. annexation He iabor"l earnestly am per
s.sfentiy with this Object IN view, anu 'he'' W.
frequent conferences between himself am 9''''''S
Gresham AT the Stat, Department on ih" SUBJECT
Til. arguments brought oui were Communicate ="
the President from whom secretary "re-h'h r.
.,iv.l Instructions from time - time from '"'
start the President opposed 20 annexation IL
found tn. Secretary ~ state - BE- IN nearly ~
cord with his Views. Through MT 't'Nn''' ~
made known bis opposition 10 Mr.. ThnrSt"h. HiH
ARGUMENTS and those made by the Secretary OF
STAT. ,,cr. ably met by Mr.. Thurs;on. ana many
the discussions eliminated all ni' t"o SERIOUS ''
i,rfions First the President h"li 10 'h' VIZ"
that il was not good policy for in" country I'D -
qure what rn eht be- regarded a. foreign territory
and that. however great Hul many WOMB be ,f''
advantages follow n. thc annexation ~ Hawaii thi~
idea should not bc departed from. ia""' wa 40
doubt. q valuable. possession 4n many WAY a. "
military or naval outpost 10 ~as important. hr'i''
4, WAS on Tho route t. the orient and therefore
destined to figure prominently In futur" commerce"
quest ions ais ne .n that quarter. ines" points anu
many others the President and Mr. Gresham CON
r.lal Eur The abstraction that IN" country Sn'''
not loiI territory lying outside Its present eastern
looking - the acquisition Of the lsAnH".
ono fear that seemed 10 possess ih' President
,,s ,b,. .n case IA. United States annexed Hawaii.
Europtan countries might Insist upon ~" Tsat o'
colonization IN Central and Souih America II J.
dir.,l, ,o nm lcrs,auI why such fear should nav"
arisen Nevertheless. The President attached mpor-
,an.. t. the idea. Mr. ThIrron called attention 10
,ho dancer u European colonization in his country
and pointed out that England had Tor years sought
a foothold on the island. Neither the President
nor Mr. Gresham was apprehens.Ve on thS s'"'''
The latter said to Mr. Thurston on one occasion
that although Great Britain might want Hawaii
she would never attempt 20 take the ISLANDS ior
the reason that English statesmen knew that th's
country would offer vigorous protest 10 any s"'h
programme TO this Mr. Thurston replied th'' II
might be thought advisable by Hawaii 10 seek closer
political relations with Great Britain Mr.. 'T'shhIn
lntimated that when such condition arose II "oni
be time enough for this country to decide no" 10
procced IL dd not believe that Hawaii would
think annexation 10 Great Britain profitable.
The Presidents second objection related to the
presence in Hawaii OF what he termed a large, un-
desirable allen element. incidentally. an objection
was raised to that part OF the Republics Cons'l'u-
ton winch imposes property and education quaIih-
cations upon citizenship The Secretary OF State.
speaking for the President contenied that II Hawaii
came into the United States. either as state or
Territory the presence Of the Chinese moro especial
IL could not be tolerated. In the case OF the Jdpane'e
there were treaty stpulatons which would have TO DE
overcome and whether the treaty under which the
mborers were admitted would be abrogated by an
nexation va Il doubtful question, Mr.. Gresham
thought 80 particular objection was made to the
Portuguese except that their presence added greatly
10 the foreign element in the islands.
The Tribunc's Informant. in speaking OF the In
tcryicNs which took place between Mr.. Thurson
and Secretary Gresham made the surprising re-
| mark that the cX-Mlnister at no time consented
| that In the event Of annexation any change IN
relation to the aliens In his country could be
brought about ON the contrary. II was said MI
Thurston insisted that # the republic became a
part OF the United state II must DC under cNlst-
ing conditions IN this respect. and mat an agree
ANY convention entered into. II has been believed
that the position Of Hawaii was the opposite Of
such conditions this country might impose. The
speaker said that he had heard the point dis.
cusscI several times. and that Mr. Thurston had
consistently maintained the position That any
treaty or other agreement drawn up must con
not be disturbed. "1hia" said the speaker, rs
The serious cnd Of the problem which any
unless II should turn out that Hawaii uses the
tending 10 abandon # with his successor"
The Official then scolded rres.dcnt Dole ana al
Thursion tina, both the President and Mr.. Gresham
REGARDED the allen element IN Hawaii as the serious
went 10 Portugal and engaged and sent to Homo
typc From that time until his departure Mr.
Thurston sought IN van TO haye friendly uonSa-
Grafton Given his reasons faVOr!ns annexation
Respecting the provisions OF the Hawaiian Con-
siitution prescribing that an alien. TO become n
citizen must read. write ana speak English. and
be- the owner in his own right OF property IN the
republic Of the value Of not less than $40. Mr.
| Gresham said that II was stated that as neither
the Constitution nor tho laws OF the United states
imposed any such restrictions upon citizenship
changes would be necessary In Hawaiian prin-
ciplrs case Of annexation. Here again. IL was
said. Mr.. Thurston interposcd objection. on the
ground that q the limitations in question were re-
moved intelligence and property on the Islands
Z v+.t.llI .a Nod h, he
that conditions giving rights OF citizenship TO all
native Hawaiians and ignorant. irresponsible for ,
] States would be- acceptable at present. In time.