The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1895-09-16
He Tells How He Stirred Up a Sensa-
ton Among the Anglomuniacs
Residing in England.
FAVORS IRISH HOME RULE
NOT OsTRACIsED FOR SPEAKING
FRANKLY ON THE SUBJECT.
Strength of the English TOries-South
African Bubble That May Soon
Burst-A Cure at LOurdes.

NEW YORK, Sept. 15.-Chauncey NJ De-
pew who arrived at quarantine late last
night, landed from the steamer City of
Paris this morning. Afterward he re-
ceived reporters at his office in the Grand
Central Depot and gave an extended inter-
view on the politics of Europe, upon his
trip and a miracle which he witnessed at
Lourdes. Mr.. Depew said that something
of a sensation was stirred among the An
glomaniacs by an interview which he gave
to the London papers. One of the ques-
tions was: What is the American idea OF
home rule, and how generally are Amer
leans of one mind on that subject?" Speak
ing to this Mr.. Depew said: MY answer
was. substantially, that home rule is the
cornerstone of our institutions, and our.
people are practically unanimous on the
subject; that there never has been any di-
vision among us as to home rule for Ire
land, and we could not understand the real
or manufactured fears OF the adoption OF
the policy leading to the disruption of the
British empire. On the contrary, We
thought the adoption of the federative
principle would benefit England, Ireland,
Scotland. Wales and the colonies; that we
were heartily in favor of English-speaking
people leading the world, and willing that
the British empire should have the first
place in the affairs of Europe, Asia, Africa
and Australia. but that we would neither
consent nor permit the control occupa-
tion of a European power of the republics
of America.
''Of the six hundred members of the
House of Lords all but twenty-five are Con-
servatives Tories. Society is over
whelmingly the same. L never had Rad
ical as guest in my house. said a proud
peer to me, and, while his rule is not gen.
eral. the feeling is. American residents in
England become attached to the dominant
than its leaders. Their denunciation OF
home rule and views the Irish are re-
freshins revelations of the influence of en-
Vlronment. They wrote letters to the pa
pers, vigorously denying my statements.
According TO them / was either grossly ig-
norant OF American sentiment or phe-
nomenal liar They say that beyond the
politicians and the political papers con-
trolled by fear of the Irish vote all there
is in our country which represents its in
tellisence its learning, its business and its
society Is opposed TO nome rule and in cor
dial sympathy with the ideas and prsn-
cipies OF the Tory party. Moreover, they
toll me personally that / would be oS-
tracised for such talk.
Then from the Westminster Gazette
came its representative with stenographer
and request for an interview. it filled
three columns of the paper and was the
largest contribution of the kind yet printed
in an English journal. After reiteratlng the
statement before given 1 enforced it by
stating that the daily and weekly press
of the United States without any exception
so far as / knew, had editorially supported
Mr.. Gladstone and his measure, that many
of the State legislatures had unanimously
passed resolutions favoring it and that
the House of Representatives, by a unani-
nous vote, had received Mr.. Parnell. Now,
our English kinsman loves frankness and
fair play. He is an intense partisan and
born fighter, but has too good an opinion
of himself to like an imitation Of himself
from any other country; He don't care
for AnglO-Americans, or Anglo-Germans or
Angio-Frenchmer or Anglo-Italians. He
likes genuine representatives of any people
home and family. Certainly. did not ex-
perience any of the dreadful consequences
predicted for telling the truth.
WORRIES FOR THE TORIES.
"a Conservative leader said to me: we
have won a great and rather embarrassing
victory without making pledge or promise
We had no platform and no affirmative
principles. We simply assailed the incompe-
tency of the Liberal government But while
the Conservatives are safely in power for
six years the Liberal Unionist is already
making matters uncomfortable for his Tory
partner "A large programme for local self
government. throughout the United King
dom, for a broad scheme of State socialism
or paternalism and plans more or less
vague Tor the benefit or what they call
classes
restless brains of Mr.. Chamberlain and
his friends and disturbing the rest and COM
fort OF the true Conservatives. Our recent
trouble with the British Foreign Office over
Nicaragua and Venezuela, increaing interest
in foreign relations and the possibility of
administration that will enforce the
unusual interest in the affairs of the United
States. This is evidenced In the Times ap-
pointing Mr. smaley its special d correspond
eral columns a week of his cable dispatches.
The statesmen of both parties would like
with us. They want our help in China
and Japan and the difficulties arising out
of Russian. German and French hostility
gladly bundle all American matters into
our hands in exchange for such an under
THE strength of the Tories is In the
Irish. They have no prohibition or tenn
perance or reform fads or faddists, and
solidly with them. The London districts
which return members of Parliament have
five times more poulation and voters than
the Irish districts and the one upparmost
idea with every Conservative you meet is
to minimize Irish power in Parliament by
taking away twenty-three seats from Ire
land and giving most of them to London.
in demonstrating how little there is of rad
icalsm in the democratic spirit there. The
disendowment and disestablishment Of the
church by the state remain in accord with
modern progress, but form iEe text of
the robbery of God Every pulpit in the
Church of England thundered against the
Liberal government. and thousands who
never went to church and scoffed at relig-
ion rallied TO the support of the time-hon-
ored establishment. Any measure can pass
the House of Lords when the Tories are
In power and none when the Liberals have
the government so long as the hereditary
majority exists. and yet Lord Salisbury
distinctly challenged the cry for amending
lords by filing his Cabinet with peers two
weeks before election to triumphantly show
that all classes of Englishmen love a lord
and are overwhelmingly in favor of this
middle age anomology plan. A large pro-
portion of the members elected TO the
House of Commons are heirs to peers or
connected with families of the nobility.
A SOUTH AFRICAN BUBBLE.
'sThe excitement in the South African
gold mines almost equals the complexion
OF booming election times. London and
Paris are crazy. One of the best-nformed
bankers in Europe told me that one hun
dred men had pocketed in cold cash within
the past year s5ooooo.ooo by the sale of
stocks or shares OF these companies. The
money has come from the confding British
public and the usually cautious French
Forty millions dollars OF IL was won by a
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