The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1895-01-10
CARLISLE CHAGRINED.
He Did Not Expect Defeat-Views of
Representatives.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 9.--When Secretary
Carlisle was informed of the defeat of his
currency bill, this afternoon, he went at
once to Speaker Crisps private Office In
the Capitol, where he remained for
hour, comforting with House leaders on
the effect of the reverse. Besides Mr..
Carlisle and Mr.. Crisp there present
Messrs. Catchngs and Outhwaite, of the
rule committee; Mr. Springer, who had
been in charge Of the bill; Mr.. Hall, of
Missouri, of the currency committee, and
Mr.. Tucker of Virginia. The talk par
took somewhat of the nature of con-
ference as to what course OF action should
be pursued in view of the unexpected turn
of affairs. Mr. Carlisle maintained his
usual composure and gave no indication that
he felt rather chagrined. On the contrary
he spoke jocularly of Representative Sib-
ley's sensational speech yesterday and said
he would like to know whom he had
''bribed with a revenue dictatorship, as
Sibley had alleged. The Secretary expressed
regret that the rule had been defeated
and he shared the view of others present
that the defeat closed the prospects for
the bill in it's present form. The result
was a surprise to him, for the Secretary
had not shared the doubts of House lead
ers up to the time of the vote. He had
expected that amendments would be sug-
gested which would overcome the opposi-
ton of certain elements and make the pas
sage of the bill possible. Now that the
rule was defeated Mr.. Carlisle agreed with
the House leaders that it was desirable
to let the bill rest for time He did not
suggest any new measure or any material
changes in the present one. 1t appeared
to be the idea, however. that efforts should
be directed toward learni.-S the objections
of those Democrats who mad voted against
the rule in order that these objections
might be overcome II possible.
AFTER the conference Mr.. springer said
that while some concessions might De made
in the interest OF harmony, yet no conceS-
sion could be made on the basis of giving
the slver men everything they wanted.
IF Mr.. Bland and mis- friends he SAID,
will not give their assistance, except
that coinage of silver at or 10 TO l
is provlded for, they must shoulder the re-
sponsibInty OF the defeat of ali legislation,
sible" 1-' 0oAp' o''''7' = po'-
Representative Bland the exponent of the
silver element the house, VINO aided
in the defeat of the bill, SAID: THE vote
undoubtedly means the abandonment OF
all hope to pass the Carlisle bill in It's pres
ent form. But it is too soon to say that it
ends the possibility or any legislation by
this, Congress As long as the effort is
made TO give monopoly to national banks
and exclude silver the plan will be fought.
There may yet be time TO frame measure
adequate for the present situation, but it
is certain That any such measure will give
proper recognition to silver"
led many, members to believe that the re-
verse to-day might yet be turned into vic
tory by making concessions to the silver
men. Their votes would be much more than
sufficient to carry the rule and the bill 1t
would be such radical step, however, in
bringing silver into the question that the
conservative men did not regard the plan
as feasible. Il was, however, the main
topic of prospective action.
POSITION OF REPUBLICANS.
On the Republican side the opinion was
general that the defeat of the rule ended
all chance of currency legislation in this
Congress Mr.. Reed would not enter into
detailed discussion on the turn of affairs
Representative Tracey. a New York DEM
| ocrat, said: 1T is evident that as this
| improve financial conditions OF the country
| except by a union of a portion of the DEM
ocratic party and a portion of the Repub-
| lican party. 1t Is useless to attempt TO
| unite the Democratic party on any finan-
| cial plan. The test vote to-day was prob
| ably larger in favor Of the bin than any
| vote on the bill itself would be, and the COM
mittee probably recognizes this. On this
occasion the Republicans have appeared
| TO have preferred TO ally themselves with
/ the faction of the Democracy represent
/ ing unsound financial views"
The Republican leaders in the House as
| sert that they had agreed to offer no parla-
mentary obstruction to vote whatever il
they had been permitted to vote first on the
ninth and tenth sections of the bill. Mr..
/ Reed was his feet for recognition with
| the draft of rule in his hand providing
/ for a vote the bill according to this
/ plan--that il, voting for the ninth and
I tenth sections first. The Republicans would
have all voted for this ruleT Mr.. Walker.
| of Massachusetts, who had led the Repub-
lican opposition, had determined to With
draw his bill, which he had previously nots-
/ fled the House he would offer substi-
tlte and which was the only plan pro-
posed by a Republican. He says also that
| no amendments would have been offered