The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1895-04-04
IF NOT THERE, Then HERE,
Should Sacramento Decline
the Local Grand Jury
May Act.
Gagan and the Senators Want to In
vestigate the Combine-Dutchy's
Encounter With Smith.

If the Sacramento Grand Jury does not
investigate the senatorial combine and the
charges of crookedness which have been
made the Grand Jury of this city will take
the matter up.
William Gagan; the foreman of the Grand
Jury of this city, was anxious to begin an
investigation here. Appointments were
made to meet him by persons who were
supposed to be able to give information,
but the appointments were not kept. Then
it was urged that action by the Grand Jury
here might interfere with the steps being
taken by the Grand Jury in Sacramento.
Last week when II. NJ. La Rue, foreman
of the Sacramento Grand Jury, was in
town, he dined with w. H. Gagan one
evening, and the matter of the inyestiga-
ton was discussed at length.
There is a strong belief among the mem
bers of the local and of the Sacramento
body that the combine was in existence,
but there had been great difficulty in secur-
ing any definite legal proof which would
justify an indictment.
Young Dutchy's" statement to the press
was much stronger than that made in the
office of w. w. Foote.
In speaking of the statement then made
H NJ. La Rue said that Young Dutchy
declared that he would only tell the de-
tails when summoned before the Grand
Jury in Sacramento, and he demanded ex-
pense money in advance. Mr.. La Rue
was not anxious to make any advance on
such an uncertain contingency. Now that
young Dutchy's'' statement has been
made public it is quite likely that he may
be summoned to the capital to repeat
under oath what he has told the newspaper
men.
As result of his statements. SO the story
goes, sYoung Dutchy" got into an en-
counter in front of the Lick House yester-
gay which did not end altogether credit
ably to his pugilistic reputation.
From those who should be in position
to know of the doings of the combine"
comes nothing but burst of general de-
NAL of Hansteds statements. 1t is guard
eddy admitted that there might have been
certain feminine influences used in the
matter of the pilot bill, the Consolidated
Charities bill and the scalpers' bill, but no
one will take the onus of responsibility for
definite statement save Hansted, who is
being generally denounced.
After his broad statements published in
the CALL it was wondered among his own
set what Hansted would do or say
next. The personal opinions of Han
sted's friends as to his statements were any
thing but complimentary.
In one of his statements Hansted is
credited with saying that he was asked if
he wanted his money with Senator
Linder's or separate"
Senator Under was seen last night and
said:
So far as / am concerned really know moth
ing about Hansted, nor did l ever have any
dealings with him beyond those of an ordinary
acquaintance. met him in Sacramento with
people know, and treated him politely. That
is all know. AS to the pilot or any other bill,
I can only say that never sold my vote in my
life, although / may have voted in a line not
quite consistent with my ideas in order TO
oblige colleague. AS to money in the last
Legislature, saw none.
When ! came to San Francisco received
letter from this man Hansted asking me to in
tercede in his favor in order to hasten the pay
ment of an alleged debt due him for services
in the Senatorial contest. I declined to inter-
fere and received q second letter containing
very definite threat. The using of my name
in his alleged confession is presume, the re-
suit of his threat. Further than this l know
nothing about either Hansted or his lobby
schemes. l was in no combine nor did know
that any existed.
E. A. Phillips, who, Hansted intimates,
brought up $1,000 to influence, negative leg
islation in the pilot bill, said:
have nothing more to say other than that
when have any testimony to give will give
it to the Sacramento or any other Grand Jury
before whom am summoned to appear. Natur-