The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1895-07-19

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j" II must answer 1t suppose 1
,,.,.t hut ! hate TO DO II, captain.
viii say mis- nsss snS nsfr' Mr sa Masses se has
T.sn. mat Is the dllercnce.
Nnn must state, Major, Whcre you
u,Snt TO put yourself on record as stand
inD bv this witness reputation 10 Tue
i',55,1f ms of saving that il Is as sood as
YOU XIV character has never been as
osiled Air Massey's has. I" ilntss t nsSi-
taftd and appealed TO captain lse,
49, 49,, tnat he d.sliked very much 10
5- ronpcned 10 answer the question.l
captain Wise, smiling, sald, Al ils"t,
Major. you need no' IA ati1"v ,iant to say
,lrnt mere that 1 would be the iast Ii"i,' @
WaI0r scott 10 cast any IoNt..l",i .,'. ~. ~,
t1,ir character. You are an hoi,oi aDi0
man. my friend ana my hi"9n''i'
eoyEGsoR oFIEEALL.
,,,oroor Charles r. O'ferrdll took the
..'Di and. being examiner by MI W.
b.. t.stlncd as iOiip"s' ,,-.,,,,,,.
~ am nity-fOur years OF age, 1yNeinor
'~gi4la aud reside ln Hichmohu' "a.
.,e py virtue OF my once, HtillDei
~ a., Board of L4ucaLOI. nave i ic'u
me article published ln 'he 9ul'u"s .irnot
& '..0 Iereuber "a. There were BIea@
n, agents Tor publishing houses IA
ift.huoud during the iaitef patl ol t"o
f'.aialature In le,4. MI Bylu was t"rl =
...,nlrv were D0thering me greatly Jsst
- ,.,,crnOr Mckinney fas stated. Inc
Ios agents were coming IN my OHiSS az
an timcs. without knocki's ana ulaSN "a
IrvervbOdy knows what a bcoh o7Nt' .9.
~. was no undue haste IN cdlliHS lie
,..fing of the board 10 adopt lhe SENIOR
forks after / was clcctci. lou VI. wy
,,'. amount Of time 10 prepare I"yseh
.I,.t the schOOi-DOOK qIesti0hs that t'e
"thcr Governors had. felt tnat "as
...I.f /
I,,o what the writer OF the aItltlc
fhoueht about my aDlhty. ,,- 49,.
Mir Neely Did you see anything dprus
krr Nlassey's actions as q mcmbef OF
ttaf board that indicated that he WAS
"'r 'r,',.,iain Wise objected. Oh the grounds
mai witness could not tcsuiy as 10 inui-
'"f''1oe prentis oyorruled the objection.
Governor O'Ecrrali. ] saw nothing 10
indicate any such influence. -.
'Aeted TO state what he knew as 10 the
,sf,ee of the adoption of certain Dooks of
| tSn American B.ok Company, witness
stated that owing 10 iulufe on 1ilc
mart Of the members OF the podl" ~
| scree on the books, they LETT II 10 tle
| nrinlon of the various teachers thrOuHh-
| IN fhe state. and collected letters IRON
! tbem on the subject produced pa'OA
of these letters. r.,.
| Cautain Wise: DO you know, Governor
| how these letters came in existence -,
/ " Ves sir. thcy were answers 10 let
! ters sent out by the American BOOK Ooln-
| nauv So far as the star chamber pro-
! .~cdf1e was concerned, there was none
! ,i,l.ss the fact that we eXclndcd the
| book agents from our meetings. 50 lidt
| we could get along with our busNcss can
| be criticised as a star chamber pro-
| ccc1ing. ,.... ~. ,tae-
a. Since 1864 49,
Q. From what you have known Of MT
| Nassoy's reputation, do you cousluer MN
as q man of good reputation
a. l do, sir
MR. MAssFY's REPUTATION.
Cross-cxamined by Judge Heath: Gov
| ernOr O'Ferran, you say that you con-
I slider Mr. Massey has a good reputation.
| DO Won consider Mr.. MdSstyS reputation
| as good as your OWN
| a. That is very dtHcatc puVs.l",ri' ~
Judge Heath. and ] hardly know now 10
! answer it. i have been charged win a
| great many things but I don't think that
! / have ever been charged with brlbtry.
! Judge Heath: l understand that' HoV-
1 crnor. but with all due respect you nave
not answered my question. ! want 10
| know Ii you consider Mr.. Massey repu-
| tatiou as good as your own!
| A. i don't like TO answer that question;
| | don't like TO put myself up as stand
| ard Every high official has been charged
with corruption. from George Washington
! Captain WISE: You have not answered
| the question. Governor O'Ferrall. You are
! lodging the question. ] demand that you
| answer whether you are Wiling 10 esu-
| mate the worth of your own character
| by that of Air. Massey. ana 10 say that
| you regard his reputation as good as your
! own.
4. am not one Of the dodging kind,
| Captain Wise; but l don't Ike 10 answer
Alr. Noely objected 10 the question.
Judge ircntis thought the question had
| been sufficiently answered.
| Captain Wise appealed 10 the record 10
show that the question had not been
| answered. The stcnOgrapher read inc
| two questions and the two answers.
Air. Nicely insisted upon his objection,
| and Judge Prcnus ruled that he did not
| think Il witness could bc forced to place
| his own character in evidence and that
the question had been sufficiently an
sWercd.
Captain Wise noted exception.
'ws SOME TIMES LocKID ARMS"
Mr. Ncely: II is stated that there has
| been unjust discrimination against Nir-
| E.uia as compared with the contracts
| OF other States. is that true Governor
a. At the time that the attack was
| made upon as ] did not know what they
| were abiding 20 respecting unjust dis
| ordinations. / knew that there had been
no such thing done by us. /, therefore,
! instructed that an lnFesl sAll0n De or
| dcred. and ordered Mr.. McGllvray. clerk
! TO The board. TO write 10 the various
authorities of the States throughout the
! United States that had contracts with
| the American Book Company. ] com
| pared those contracts with that adopted
| by our board. and found that If there was
| amy difference IL was in Virginia. ! saw
by the Pilot that Longs Language Les
sons was sold Tor less i'm louisiana than
| On Virginia. ] therefore sent down 10
| that state and secured copies Of The BOOK
used hy them. and compared u with that
used in Virginia, and found the Virginia
book much better and worth the diner
cnce. Copies of the two books were
| produced I'm cOurt) ! found discrimina-
| ginla The Governor stated the three
! books that were higher in price in Viz
| einia than elsewhere
MT Neely: From your investigation you
We're satisfied that I'm the contracts adopt
"a in Virginia the school children Of this
state We're not Disseminated against?
a. Perfectly satisfied, sir.
Governor O'Ferrall entered into a
lengthy and detailed explanation show
ing why certain books were sold for less
IA some other States than TN Virginia,
and thought that the Pilot people had
Insured on a wrong basis. which caused
them 20 arrive at their conclusions. lie
also stated that the statement that the
sale OF school books in Virginia amount
td 60 nearly a 100000 was r.dicu.
lously high figure, as was also the state
ment that the exchange price difference
amounted TO thousands Of dollars pei
year.
@. What actions of Mr.. Massey. as q
member OF that board. distinguished hin
In any manner?
a. ] know OF none sir: / always found
tenuon 10 his duties. but very yieldin,
ana cuusilerate We sometimes locked