New-York tribune., 1895-08-27
THE MCCARTHY LETTER.
AppAM g. HEWITT's COMMENTS UPOl
THE POSITION OF THE IRISH

THE POSITION OF THE IRISH.
GREAT INTEREST EXCITED By THEIR LEADERr
CLEAR EXPOSITION IN THE TRIBUNE
JOSEPH r. RYAN SAYS IRET.AND's oP-
PoRrUNITY rs NOW BEFORE HER
J. kerr HARDIE PREDICTS
sop FROM THE
CONSERVATIVES
Much Interest and comment were called forth on
sunday and yesterday by the strIkingy interesting
letter from Justin Mccarthy addressed to The Trib
une Ex-Mayor Abram $. Hewitt had not read the
letter II live out In the wi.derness he smlngly
remarked ''and so did not see The Sunday Tribune"
The ex-Mayor's summer home at Ringwood Lake
Ia far away from the hum OF business. lie read the
article through with thoughtful care and after q
pause said:
Before a discussion Of Mr.. McCarthy's letter 10
in order Il Is desirable to know what ne by
Home Rule The definitions for that term are
various They have In Ireland. In England
they have a definition which is again totally differ
ent and In this country we have still another defn-
ton So II is very desirable 70 know exactly how he
defines IT, Does he mean an independent govern
ment for Ireland. in which she shall have her
own Parliament and leg.slate entirely In her own
interest on the tariff as well upon other issues
she shall enjoy Independent government al
though stl under the one sovereign? That is the
issue which Is now raised between Norway and
Sweden They under one King. but the Nor
wegans have a grievance. Norway Is maritime
country Her people sailors. That is. the
country has little commerce Of It's own, but
its people are carriers. The Swedes. on the other
hand are engaged In manufacture and In agricult-
ure and the Norwegians very naturally contend
that they are neglected in matters OF legislation.
What is TO prevent the two nations going to war,
Certainly not the King. who Is only an individual.
FULLY REPRESENTED IN PARLIAMENT.
ireland has no such grievance. The government
OF England rests in Parliament and the power Is In
the House There Ireland has her representation.
In fact measured by standard OF representa-
tlon she has more than her due. for whereas she
should have but sixty on the basis OF population
she has eighty representatives in the House. Now,
does Mr. Mccarthy mean that in addition 10 this
representation in Parliament Ireland shall have a
home Parliament. with permission for legislation.
an independent government imperium in imperiufn.
a government within government under a COM
mon sovereign, with permission to make war against
that sovereign for know that after all the ruler
is little more than a fgurehead? Is that the kind
of Home Rule desired for IrelandT
Continuing Mr. Hewitt declared 1t would be Just
the same II the State of New-York were TO declare
her independence of the National Government and
set out to claim the privilege only OF egslating
in her own behalf. but OF making at will He
said he believed in the decentralization OF power as
applied to the authority OF law. Where the au-
thory OF the city town fails. the county steps In
and then the State and If the State fails to enforce
law then the National Government enters upon the
scene and restores order and enforces respect for
Jaw. This demonstrated in the Debs case. and
the issue to the right Of the National Govern
ment to uphold law where local influences had
failed was settled once for all by the courts. This
decision he contended. Of the utmost mpor-
tance. AS to the treatment Ireland should receive
from England, he declared, II should be the same
and administered In the same spirit OF magnanimity
that marked the treatment Of the South At the
hands of the North at the end OF the Rebellion.
The South had made a mistake and the North
simply said to her people in effect You have
made a mistake; you fighting for something
you thought you should have. You cannot get II,
you see."
THE CASE OF EVICTED TENANTS.
Mr. Hewitt was drawing this comparison in order
TO reach the cases of the few hundreds Of evicted
tenants who were really victims OF misplaced
hdence In their leaders. Parnell and others, who
advised against the payment of rentals These
tenants who evlcted have been left. as the
speaker said. without homes. and while some OF
them emgrated others are still hanging about their
old homes They ignorant and erred against
the law through ignorance and their faith in tbs
men who their intellectual superiors The
British Government should adopt methods Of large
tolerance toward these poor people Those who
can be should receive back their homes. for many
OF the holdings vacant Where the holdings
have been given to others other means OF restitu-
ton should be devised. for It ls not right TO DO an
In justice that justice may be satisfied II any Of
them desire to move away money should he given
them with which to go. Ireland. I'm addition,
should he accorded the same treatment now given
to England. Scotland and Wales. where the Gov.
ernment has been decentraIzed among the counties
Az for the men who have newly come into office.
Mr. Hewitt said he knew some Of them. and. Wills
not qualified to speak for a single individual. yet
felt that they would that Justice Ia dobs,
Many of them arc or large and catholic ability and
he felt that Sign of the times was TO he noted IN
tho recent suggestion Of Mf baifour for liberal
bill for ireland
Mit KELLY HAS NOTHING 10 BAY
Edward Kelly, OF Tho Temple court nuildna
said 10 Tho Tribune reporter, Really. have
nothing TO say tho subject My father when
alive. was deeply Interested IN the cause OF iie-
land but he ordered HIS 10 keep clear Of tho
subject. He said To us 1 was born there ami
It s my country. but you are horn In America and
this Is your country So We have not made study
OF the situation. Possibly later on. II a vital issue
should be raised in Parliament. from which good
ls to be- anticipated. We may do something"
W. BOURKE COCKRANs APPROVAL.
W. Bourke Cochran read Mr. McCarthys letter
with care and tersely remarked "Well. he has said
the right thing in the right place. really think
there is nothing to add to It, Anyway. have not
studied the new phase OF the situation. and while
certainly have views on the situation, l should
rather say nothing to The Tribune unless might
add a contribution that would be Of value"
JOSEPH p RYAN ENCOURAGED
Joseph p Ryan. the secretary OF the Irish Ma
onal Federation OF America, when yesterday
At the offices OF the federation. No. 2s Cooper
Union, spoke In enthusiastic terms OF the lucidy
expressed views contained In Justin McCarthys
etter to The Tribune. 1T is he said "in every
respect an excellent letter. and coming It does
low. in the present condition of the Irish party.
I IL not only satisfactory but prophetic"