The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-04-04

serves me right, he said Sergeant Cook
 had told him to go slow in reference to
 saloons. At any rate, so understood
 him. He also said that he got similar 1 advice from the older men on the force.
 I think have a memorandum of this,
 but do not have it here. It is, how
 ever, my decided impression that Coop
 CT said he got that advice from Sergeant
 Cook"
 "What remark did Officer Toronto
 give as one that prevented officers from
 doing their duty?"
 officer Toronto several times re-
 peated in my hearing a conversation be-
 tween the commissioner and himself,
 but did not say that the Knowledge of
 this conversation had directly deterred
 other officers from enforcing the liquor
 law"
 "Can you give us the names of any
 more?"
 "No, I can't, but have heard general remarks by that I mean remarks like l that of Sergeant Crocker to the effect
 that he had heard reports that officers had been cautioned in reference to the enforcement of th4 liquor law. He said
 that he had no direct knowledge of any commissioner so cautioning an off, | cer."
 Continuing Dr. Smyth said: "Oflcers have made in my hearing before the Investigating committee definite state- ments in reference to conversations with and interference by Commissioner Gill huly. Officer Jere McGrath told of a conversation with Commissioner Gill huly in reference to the saloon at the corner of Church and Crown streets. During this conversation Gilhuly said he didn't care for Herman's trade and he didn't think Mr Clancey did. He also said that Gilhuly said something about another officer either crowding or bothering one of his customers on Com merce street and that he spoke as though he did not like to have any of his customers bothered.
 'I have also had conversations with officers personally and outside of the Investigating committee room in regard to conversations said to have taken place with Commissioner Gilhuly, Off, cers have told me general remarks and heresay as to the commission and Gilhuly. I think Officer Bixby made some such general remark, but can not definitely remember any. From my talk etc., with the officers I should
 ay that the impression prevailed among the police was that the liquor law was not to be enforced with diligence and fidelity and that this was the especial inference In reference to MT. Gilhuly.
 Officer Toronto also told me that Gilhuly had asked me why he was watching certain saloons. The officer told him that a priest had complained of the saloons. Tn reply to this Gil- huly said; Damn it, what does he care. he gets his and What in the hell does he care; he gets his The officer also told me that on another occasion Gil- huIy had told him not to watch cer- tain saloons too closely, as he got his living out of 1t, and John (Clancey) also got his Officer Jackson also said that after he had made a, certain raid, Gilhuly and Clancey met him and from their conversation the officer inferred that it would be best not to prosecute the case too hard. One of the commits sioners came to his house to see him and the other saw him on the street. Clancy went to his house and Gilhuly met him on the street.
 Some officers have also told before the investigation committee of Gilhuly in- terfering with them in the discharge of their duty. These officers were Doran, Clancy, Roach and Lonergan. The in- reference with Officers Doran and Lon ergan was that referred to or testified to at the last meeting. I have also heard statements more or less direct from the bottlers, in reference to the re- lation of Gllhuly to the saloons, also reports to the effect that patrolmen so- licited trade for the commissioners. They also testified that their business had fallen off while Giihuly's business had materially increased, and that their | drivers reported to them that the sa- loon keepers preferred to trade with po- lice commissioners. I think that Bot | tier Everett said that Kitty Reilly had | told him that for the time being she | preferred to deal with police commits | sioners.
 The bottlers also said that they had | lost customers because their customers wanted to do little Sunday business. | These customers said they wanted to | trade with rolice commissioners, but did not refer specially to Commissioner Gilhuly. I think one of the drivers, MT, Downs Scovill's driver said that he had heard of policemen soliciting trade and of customers who proposed to trade with commissioners. He did not say that the commissioners asked the police to solicit trade for them.
 That's all" said Corporation Counsel Ely.
 On cross examination Dr, Smyth said. [ am the instigator of the charges against the commissioner, and hold myself personally responsible for them.
 "Did the charges emanate from your" tsked MT. Goodhart.
 q made the original draft of them, md sent it to the police investigating 
 But substantially, you are the au- hor of them, are you not?" persisted Attorney Goodhart.
 'Yes, sir,'' replied the doctor. "When were they prepared?" After the police investigation" Did you make any charges substan- ially like these prior to the investiga- ion by the police commissioners?" 1T made a series of allegations in | eference to the same thing" t ffA l