The Manning times. [volume] (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, 1895-10-30


Mr.. Prince offered the following
substitute:
I'm the formation of new coun
ties no old county shall be cut within
10 miles of its county seat. "
There was further debate on this mo
ton.
Mr.. Connor, after having served a:
county commissioner, had been thor
oughly convinced of the necessity o.
smaller counties. The new system o.
county government had not been suf
tic;ently tested to make it plain wheth
er the difficulties in the old counties
had been overcome, and they should
60 slow until that was understood,
The demand for smalleer counties was
not from the people. but from ambi
tious towns. He favored a limit OF
some kind, but was not particular
about its being 10 miles. Ifthis new
county scheme goes through unre
stricted, there will be race between
the low and up-country for the con
Srol of the senate, and in 10 years the
senate chamber will have to be en-
larged. He hoped his substitute
would prevail.
Mr.. Bellinger would have to eithe,
vote for the original section or fol
Mr.. Prices substitute for Mr.. Connor's
substitute. He spoke of the difference
between natural boundaries as they
are considered in the different parts oil
the State. In the low what is
called branch would be river in
the up, country. There was stream
flowing within two miles of Barnwell
court house only foot or two wide,
but it would have to become 'natu,
raj boundary if Mr.. Connor'S amend,
ment passed. There were delegations
from 2Ocounties pledged not to dis.
member their counties, while but a
half dozen might have come to cut
their counties up. He believed in
small counties, but was opposed to
running the old counties There were
in his immediate section Allendale,
Denmark, Branchville and another
wishing to become county seats and
cut slices from Barnwell, Hampton
and Colleton. Without this 10-mile
limit they would be ruined.
Senator Tillman opposed the ten
mile limit, and moved to recommit
the whole matter, and let the commit.
tee try to adjust the differences agree.
ing to disagree. Let them, be in
structed to simply fix the minimum
area for county and leave the legis-
lature to use its judgment in settling
the matter.
4 Member-Is not the gentleman
like the man who was down and said
he was whipped and then jumped up
when turned loose and went fighting
again?
Mr.. Till.aan shouted something
about his being for the interes1 of the
people. There was great confusion,
three or four men shouting at once,
and loud statement with violent
gesticulatory accompaniment, of Mr..
G.. D. Tilman to his brother, was lost
in the turmoil.
Senator Tillman, after the presi.
dents rapping the body to order, con-
tinued his remarks, closing by declar-
ing that this convention seemed to
think that the people at home would
vote on this question like asses and
slaves instead of like freemen.
MR.. GARY REPLIES.
Mr.. Gary said that this was but
another of Senator Tillmans flank
movements, Senator Tillman was at
once on his feet again, and Mr.. Otis
was up. Confusion reigned through
out the hall.
Mr.. Tillman renewed his motion.
Mr.. Patterson then got the floor and
said that he had waited for this fight
to come on the 10 mile limit matter.
His old county was vitally concerned
in this 10 mile limit matter. He was
afraid that his friend from Edgefeld
felt that he was whipped, and now
wanted to recommit.
Senator Tillman said he was not
whipped, butthe people would be whip
ped.
Mr.. Patterson stated that he wanted
o-.say few words for Barnwell. He
and her people could not follow the
gentleman from Edgefeld.
He was going ahead, when Senator
Tillman asked him if there was not a
distance of at least &C. miles between
every court house in this State.
Mr.. Stokes made the point OF order
that on a motion to recommit no
member could discuss the merits of
any other question than that pending.
The chair sustained the point.
Mr.. Patterson-But the chair in
dulgedme.
The president stated that he had
done so, but when a member raised the
point he had to sustain it.
Mr.. Patterson went on to enumerate
the several schemes that were being
worked by Allendale and other sec
tons to make new counties. He only
asked that they be protected in their
old county rights. They had their
money invested there. If you adopt
a 10 mile limit you will protect us. It
was nothing but right for the old
county men to defend their counties.
They now had fine system of public
roads in their county, and there was
really no need of new county.
Mr.. D. S. Henderson simply wished
to know whether this body would stul-
tify itself by recommitting the article.
If they were going to instruct COM
mittee, why not by all means settle
it on the floor like men. Quit this
useless waste Of the peoples time and
He moved to lay the motion ofSena-
tor Tillman on the table.
He withdrew this. and straight
vote was taken, resulting as follows
yeas II, nays 124.
Mr.. Cooper then moved to table Mr..
Princes amendment. Lost-nays 10,
yeas is.
Senator Irby, who had, it seemed,
stepped outside the door after the vote
found it closed on him, when the poll
was taken. When he came in he de-
to know by what rule the
president was authorized to close the
door AGAINST members during the tax