The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1895-07-25
HE DEALT IN CORPSES
Holmes Says He Was a Swim
dler, Not a Murderer.
GOT BODIES WITHOUT KILLING.
When His Game Didn't Work He Had
TO Get Rid OF the Dead-He
SCOTS at Police Stories.

Philadelphia, July 24-H. II. Holmes
was visited In his cell today by his coun-
sell William Shoemaker For two hours
or more Holmes spoke freely of the bones
and other fragments OF human anatomy
found in his castle in Chicago. After
the interview, Mr.. Shoemaker told an As
ISOLATED Press reporter the substance or
his clients statements.
Mr.. Shoemaker says Holmes declared
the tuft of human hair found IN the chin
ney could not have belonged 10 Minnie
Williams. for the reason that the CHM
ney was a new one, put in after the girls
disappearance. As TO the bones, he said
they were not those Of Gertrude Conner,
Minnie Williams or any OF the other per-
sons whom he was charged with murder
ing.
THE police simply do not know what
they are taking about" Holmes con-
tinued when they say / murdered so
many people and buried their bones in
different places indiscriminately in every
mock and corner I could find Throughout
the country. Quite while ago made
statement TO the PhsiadelphiG authorities
that they were Liable TO find human
bones in many different places all over
the continent. I then frankly admitted
that | had been engaged in a number or
insurance swindles which did not pan out
One OF these was for a 900 policy end
had to be abandoned in an embryonic
state because of the officers becoming
suspicious.
'The idea was to have the bodies Of a
woman and a boy found in their home,
and afterward the corpse of a man with
a bullet in his head, TO make it appear
a case Of murder and suicide / got
bodies from a graveyard to represent the
wife and son. but the alleged husbands
body had not been procured when the
insurance agents learned of the scheme,
a he Ao1 he sod oft he
best way 1 could. had them embalmed
and put in trunks. which were sent to
a cold storage warehouse Before my
preparations could be completed, however,
the manager of the storage hosse notified
me to take the trunks away or he would
sell the contents. l did So and the bodies
were buried in separate places. Where
they are the police must find OUT
Holmes ridiculed the theory that sub
terranean tank found in the Chicago es-
tabliSFment had been used for the secre-
ton of his victims corpses, and said that
1t had served as nothing more harmful
than a vat for Illuminating oil used in
the premises. The dumb waiter was ac-
counted for by the fact that during the
Worlds fair there had been a restaurant
on one of the upper floors of the building.
In the transfer of properties between
him and Minnie Williams, Holmes added.
In which he had secured the Fort Worth
property, note in the shape of a mort
gage was given by Minnie Williams and
Endorsed Horace A. Williams" who was
supposed to be her brother. She never
had a brother. however, and the indorser
was Holmes himself.
Toronto, July 24.--At the inquest on the
body of Alice Pitzel tonight verdict of
willful murder was returned against
Holmes.
Chicago. July 24.-The police assistants
at work in the basement of the Holmes
hull +1,A .1I,
covered what they think are parts of
human skeleton. One piece, they say,
held two teeth. They think they have
parts of a number of ribs.
Chief Badenoch this afternoon pro-
nounced the bones those of child TO
10 years of age. The surmise is that the
skeleton is that of little Howard Pitzel
or Mrs. Corners little daughter Ger
trude
Chicago, July 24-Mrs Carrie Pitzel has
made the direct statement that H. II.
Holmes has accused Pat Quinlan, the pres
emit janitor of the Holmes castle, Sixty
third and Wallace streets. of the murder
OF Howard Pitzel her son. Accusations
against Holmes are piling up, and now it
ia said that warrants charging him with
the murder of the two Williams girls will
be sworn out Mrs. Pitzefs charge against
Pat Quinlan came about in a singular
manner. She arrived IN Chicago on Sun
day last from Toronto At that time she
sent for ouin.an and he went to s.ois San
cannon street, the residence OF Eugene
HAYWARD, to see her. While there Mrs.
Pitzel told him that Holmes had told her
in Philadelphia that he tQuinlan) had
made away with her son. Quinlan talked
with Mrs. Pitzel for half an hour, during
which time she repeated the charge CT
Holmes that Quinlan had killed Howard
Pitzei Qulnlan has made so many con-
Trajectory statements himself that his ar
rest is momentarily expected. There does
not appear to be any doubt but that he
knows more about the disappearance of
the Williams girls than ne is now willing
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