The representative. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1893-1901, 1895-08-21

room in a sort Of disgust with himself
No, don't expect he will, but will agree
to show this audience how ridiculous his
statement is, and those books have got
right here"
MR.. HARVEY WANTS LIGHT.
Mr.. Harvey-If Mr.. Horr will begin his
talk on the debt proposition by explaining
away his own proposition made the other
day 1t would be more satisfactory in this
debate think. He said that longtime
debts We're only small part Of all our
debts. haye shown him that these long,
time debts were $4,000, OO0, 900, and If that
is only a small part have. asked him to
make up the remainder Of the SAC, OO0, OOO,-
900 for me-
Mr.. Horr-Now, Brother Harvey you
have interrupted me several times-the
list that you give here does not include q
dollar of those short-time debts that re-
ferred to. You give the debts, not of the
people who owe for labor every week at
all, that is not in your list. I am talking
about the list you made out. Now stick
Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr seems to think
there are debts that are not in that
amount Qaughter) if it is any satisfac-
ton to him he can add the debt he speaks
OF to my list. daughter and continued
applause) No one who will seriously
study this question of debts will arrive at
any other conclusion than have Before
this debate closes-for, as I said before,
I give my entire Monday to the indepen-
dent action Of the United States-I desire
to answer in this debate proposition
that is being industriously circulated all
over the United States. want to get an
answer to it in this debate that will be
sufficient, the answer that ought to be
made to it.
But want to make another answer to
it. 1 want to say to you that the silver
producers have not assisted in running
this campaign. Applause) If they were
assisting any one 1t is reasonable to sup
pose that they assisted me- I began my
work in May, 1898, by publishing a week.
ly paper, and commenced bringing out
books in December, 1893. 1 became chair
man Of the bimetallic executive commit
tee of this state in the summer of 1893
My committee appealed personally and
by letter to about all the silver mine
owners in the west for donations to as
sist us. We did not receive a cent. At
one time sent out A letters to selected
names of as many prominent silver mine
owners who were supposed to be wealthy
such men as Motif and Shear of Col
orado and Clark Of Montana-and did
not receive a cent from them, not even
enough to pay the postage used on the
letters; not even the courtesy of a reply,
except from one.
"At the time I brought out Coins
Financial School, was in debt and had
HO money l6IJ l Hdu spent I'LL OIL my
money and borrowed 1880 from a bank
err in Utah on a mortgage on improved
property, which he afterward foreclosed
when / was in my greatest trouble. ]
owned valuable unimproved property in
the silver states that was unincumbere0.
l wrote numerous letters to prominent
mine owners, stating my situation, and
asked for a mortgage loan. I failed in
each instance. In August, 1894, seeing
that could go no further without money
1 went personally to Denver and saw
most of the silver bullion owners of Dem
yer and offered unincumbered property
at Pueblo Col, that cost me $780, on
which had bankers certificates showing
a cash valuation Of $4,000. They all re-
fused to loan me any money. ! was told
that I could not borrow on the property
because it was unimproved and had no
rental value I found that the bullion-
owners whoshad money were bankers;
the others were all hard pressed for
money. I appealed to these bankers,
among them the president Of the Globe
Smelling company, to waive the fact
that my property was not improved and
to loan me money on it. He refused. I
then asked him to go with me and talk
with others who had money and they
together to make up lOan This he de-
clined to do also. I then tried to SELF
my property and found there was no
market and that could not get an offer.
1 then returned to Chicago without
cent. I was in debt $1,000 and had no
money. On the day I returned my only
clerk absconded with what little money
had come into the Office in my absence
On my desk I found a letter from my wife,
who was in Ohio with our children, ask
ing for money to come home. 1 had no
money to send her. did not have money
enought that night to buy my supper.
RELIEF IN TIME OF NEED.
"At this moment Judge Miller Zap
plause). who is now presiding as one Of
the judges in this debate, came into my
office. 1 told him of my trip to Denver
and the result, and that I was going to
close my office. He abruptly, as it
seemed to me at the time, got up and left
the room. About two hours later he re-
turned and said that he had been home;
that he and his wife had talked the mat
ter over; that they had some money and