The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-02-03

In accordance with the order of the
district court made on Friday the de-
positions of Otto Stailman, formerly
manager Of the Copper company, We're
taken yesterday afternoon before No
tary Public MarriOneaux to be used at
the trial of the suit Of Frazer 81 Chal-
mers VS.. L. c. Trent. 1t is understood
that Mr.. Stallman is about TO leave the
city and that he viii not be here when
the case is called up
Attorney John \. Marshall appeared
for Frazer &S Chalmers. whose witness
Mr.. Stallman is, and Judge Henderson
and Arthur Brown were for Mr.. Trent
The examination was on the subject of
the machinery ordered FOR the Copper
company from Frazer K Chalmers. The
witness said that the one order
8 amounted to $780, eco. This was not all
for machinery, but $780, 600 of 1t was
for patents which he had sold 20 Frazer
y Chalmers and they sold them to the
Copper company and included the
amount in the machinery bill. Witness
received no cash for this, but vas to
get 100000 worth Of stock in The COM
Qany.
CrOss-Examfued.
The cross-examination by Judge
Henderson was the most Interesting
part OF the proceedings. Witness said
al one time and another he had O: dered
probably $3,0O0,000 worth Of machinery
! from Frazer & Chalmers, some of
which was for works at Anaconda.
Durango, Salt Lake, and other places.
In the matter of the Copper company
at Salt Lake, the ordering of the ma
chlnery was done principally ty wit
ness. While he was manager of the
Salt Lake Copper company he had
made plans and specifications for Fra
ger q Chalmers, for which he was to
receive 5000 each. He didn't receive
any money on this account, but Frazer
& Ch24mers had invested $4,000 Tor him
In Masonic Temple stock at Chicago.
He never asked for the stock cert;fi-
cate and had never seen it; bur he had
such confidence in Frazer & Chalmers
that he was perfectly satisfied 10 leave
The matter entirely in their hands.
Ihey and Mr.. Trent also had Informed
MN OF the investment. The latter fad
written him TO that effect, but he had
destroyed the letter.
Buys Il House.
While in Salt Lake he bought 2 house
for $19,500. He paid IS, 800 down. money
ne mad saved out of his earnings, and
went in debt for the balanca-SIO, 600.
Witness and Mr.. Green signed the
contract for the copper plant rnachiu-
cry on behalf Of the Conner COMPANY
It amounted to S2S0,0O0.
Did it include 100000 for you?"
asked Judge Henderson.
Not in that way" replied witness.
In what way was it then?''
/ was to have a share in the COP
per company to the amount of 100000
for my patents, my services and any
other patents 1 might take out in the
future. 1 sold myself body and soul to
the copper company"
And you got 100000 in return?"
l got no money. ! was to get $780,
900 in stock, but never did get it -
WAS there $4,000 put in for Posey
in the S2SO,OU0 bill?''
u think there was $4,000 or S11 600.
the amount which Posey owed Frazer
q Chalmers on the Durango business"
The bill for machinery for the Salt
Lake works then really came to only
about $780, OO?''
Yes; think 500
ITO that amount was added the
100000 you were to get and $4,000 for
Posey?"
Yes; L suppose So"
Then the bin was padded to the ex-
tent of $11O,O0O?"
II suppose so: 1t was added In a
lump sum as separate item from the
machinery"
That was for your patents?"
yes
"where were the letters patent at
that time?"
7 had transferred them to Marcus
DAILY and j. B. Haggin and the lat
ter held them at the time, but [ was
in
arrangements to get them back
And these patents which you had
transferred to Daily and Haggin went
in as part of the $1O0,000?"
Yes"
'.E7or how much did they go in?m
"There was no specific amount
named; they went in with the rest: l
mean the patents had made appIir3a-
ton for and any [ might secure in the
future
You say you sold yourself body and
soul as well as your patents?''
yes"
'How much for your body? How
much for your soul? and how much for
your patents?''
They all went in together for the
$1,000 in stock"
Had You any patents you had not
transferred to Daily and Haggin at that
time?"
mo, all the actual patents were trans
ferred, but L was negotiating to get
them back and expected to get Others. %
Were the patents described in the
contracts with Frazer and Chalmers? %
NO"
twas the 100000 for patents men
toned in the original conract?'
''No, it was done on a, separate piece
OF paper annexed to the contract"
Was it there when you signed the
contract"
mo"
Now wasn't it attached months
afterwards?
"It may have been"
''Who were the patents transferred