Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1895-12-14

was necessary for the country's welfare
that the tide of free silver sen timent should
be stemmed. If Mr. Harrison had been
President of course he could not have done
1t, because he could have had no influence
with the democratic party. Fortunately for
the country Mr.. Cleveland was in the White
House. He is little slow of thought, but
when he gets an idea he gets a complete
hold of it-or perhaps 1 should say 1t gets
a complete hold of him. He comprehended
the silver situation, saw its necessities and
acted promptly and effectively. With the
aid of Mr. Carlisle he held back the demo-
cratic party from the road it was threaten
ing to take. He gave it chance to think.
In this Mr. Cleveland and Mr.. Carlisle did
a fine thing for the country and fine thing
for the democratic party.
l asked the Senator if he believed the good
accomplished was permanent
Yes" he said, because the revival or
trade and the rise in prices has given the
people chance to see that cheap silver
does not mean necessarily cheap agricultural
products. To associate these two in the
public mind has always been the effort Of
the silver propagandiSt."
Presidential Possibilities.
I asked the Senator about the tatement
attributed to him favoring Mr. Cleveland's
denomination.
Il was rather precipitated into that inter-
view he said. Il had only returned from
Europe a short time when a gentleman,
whom l had known in Washington as a
| newspaper correspondent, called on me in
New York and asked me what thought of
the democratic candidates. l named several
| of them whose views on public questions
were in accord with mine beginning with
Mr. Carlisle, but 1 did not speak of Mr..
Cleveland. Presently he said: What do
you think of Mr.. Cleveland" and replied
that if Mr. Cleveland was a candidate he
was my choice all the time. But l have no
idea that Mr.. Cleveland will be a candidate
l have, of course, never spoken with MN
about the matter, but I am quite sure that
he is not only not a candidate but that ne
has inclination or desire to be.
1.-The interview, though not submitted to
nle Def, re publication, was. however, sub
stantia,ly correct, except as to one personal
alluson."
How about Mr.. Whitney,"
Il have always thought that Mr.. Whit
| r ey's all-round democracy and his splendid
administration would make him very
strong candidate.
Il have been informed recently that he
has said he would not take the nomination
if it was equivalent to an election. But
don't know this. The truth is, 1 am not a
very good hand a forecastng."
Then the Senator wanted to know what
the chances of the different republican can
didates were, and he seemed surprised to
hear that Senator Allison was showing SO
much strength.
Il thought when I went to Europe last
summer" he said, that Harrison would
| trouble with Allison has always been that
l~he is from a state which has been so
strongly republican in presidential elections.
! 1 would like to see him nominated. He is a
very able man. The great feature of Mr..
| Allison's career is his cautious conserv a
| tism. You can never get direct committai
| from him.
Revertlng to the republican presidential
candidates, Mr.. Gray said: MY ideal of
republican candidate, though, is Cushman
| X. Davis of Minnesota. He is an eminent
| ly fair man, scholar and man of fine in
| telligence. The telegram he sent to some
strikers in his own state during the Chi
cago riots was characteristic. l don't
know, though, whether it would do him
more harm or good if he were nominated
1 was discussing the question recently with
some one who expressed the opinion that 1t
would cost him a great many votes, es-
pecially in Illinois. But l hope he'll have a
| chance to make the race, and you may
quote me as saying almost anything in his
praise.
lone thing which I cannot bear is what
| is known jingoism. " said the Senator.
Il believe that man should not say of his
| country publicly what he could not say of
himself with modesty and propriety. l
| think it in quite as bad taste for man to
| try to bully England on the floor of the
| Senate as it would be for me to go out into
| my side yard and bully my neiShbor be-
! cause 1 was stronger than he The lingo
| on the floor of the Senate always rubs me
| the wrong way
| Gossip About Men.
| The name of Senator Hoac came up in
| the course of the conversation, and quot
| ed mis- retort in debate with Mr. Butler OF
| South Carolina as an example of his ca
pacity for being Irritating. Some one de-
| Tending Mr. Butler from Mr. Hears charge
| that he was implicated in the Hamburg
massacre, had said that in Mr. Buffers
| veins flowed the best blood Of South Caro-
| lima I'm not talking about the blood in
| his veins; I'm talking of the blood on his
| hands," said Mr. Hoar, In his raspng way:
and it took the earnest persuasion of Mr..
Buffers friends to prevent a personal en-
| counter.
| "Hoar is very bright and witty" said
| Mr.. Gray. Il recall a comment he made to
me when Jones of Nevada was delivering
| one of his voluminous silver speeches.
| We were sitting opposite each other, Mr..
| Hoar and l. listening to the speech. Mr..
Jones mad gone back to the time of Abra-
| down through the ages, tracing the history
of money. Presently he spoke Of the use
of shells as money. Mr.. Hoar leaned over
toward me. THAI would DE very nice
| he said. One could order half 4 Gozen
raw AMI pay for them with the Shells"
| Mr.. Gray mad spoken with some enthu-
| siasm of Mr.. Carlisle as a presidential
| quantity. 1 asked if he believed the Sec
|
| to fill the presidential char.
| God has given Mr.. Carlisle Il :ine mind"
| Re replied. His logic is as clear as sun
| light, and he is incapable of sophistication
/ have known hin, to stop IN an argument
| because he detected a flaw in his own
reasoning. 1 have admired Mr.. Carlisle for
many years. His viaws the tariff and
| on finance have conceded with mine. His
| splendid mertal equipment and Mr. Cieve-
| lands intelligent courage have won the
| fight against silver in the democratic
| party.
| I suggested that Mr.. Carlisle in the White
| House would not have Mr.. Cleveland
| backbone, ard referred to mis- speech on
| silver coinage in 1878
| when that speech was made in the
| House." sale. Mr.. Gray, 1.-The question was
| between the compromise Bland-Allison bill
| and unlimited free coinage, at the ratio of
| 16 to L. Mr.. Carlisle advocated and voted
| for the Allison bill and was against free
| coinage. He was for bimets Ism and said
many things in support of his position
| which he would not say now. Every one
| who favored the Band-Allson bill then
| believed that its passage would restore
! silver nullion to parity with gold. and it
| took the experience of years to correct that
| notion. The issue had not then been drawn
| as it is drawn now, between the friends and