St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1895-02-20
.ntion Of the witness to the different

tention Of the witness to the different
crimes he has been charged with.
@. Are you married? A. l was
married, yes, sir. 1 amt now.
@. Living witt. your parents at the
time you had this appointment with
the young woman? A. Yes, sir.
@. When did you make the appoint
ment? A. I think it was Monday aft
ernnoon, about o'clock I saw herr
She was going away and she was COM
ing down that way and wanted me to
meet her and go with her up to North
Minneapolis.
Q. How is it hat you were to meet
her up on First avenue? A. She was
up on Seventh street and she told me
she would come down that way
@. Where did you see her when you
made your appointment? A. L saw
her up on Hennepin avenue, and L
walked up the avenue with her.
@. Was she woman that you were
keeping company with at the time! A.
Yes, sir She was working out up on
Seventh street, somewhere. L couid
not tell the place because l never was
up there.
Q. Where were you going up nortn
with her? A. Up somewheres noreHS
up on Sixteenth avenue, 1 think she
was going.
Q. What for? A. Up to see some
folks. And we got as far as Fourth
avenue and she met the folks she was
going to see, and I left her there and
she turned around and went away with
the folks.
Q, What time were you to meet her
there? A At 7 o'clock.
Q. Was there any objection to meet
ing her at the house where she lived?
A. No, sir, not as 1 know of.
O. Was it a secret sort of meeting
you had with her? A. No, sir.
Q. Well, then, why didn't you go
where she was working? A. 1 didn't
know the number
q, Didn't she know; couldn't she tell
you? A. She told me, but 1 had FOR
gotten all about it; and when I left her
III the afternoon [ forgot to ask her.
Q. Mr.. Hale turned you down, didn't
he? A. No. sir
Q. He didn't? A. No, sir. Mr.. Hale
told me
Q. Well, didn't Mr.. Hale
Mr.. Erwin-Let him explain.
O. What is it? A. Mr. Hale told
me L would be interviewed by some
body else pretty soon.
y. Have you not switched from that
since to man by the name of Hayes,
a sandy complexioned fellow with a
light mustache? A. No, sir, I don t
know any man by the name of Hayes,
all l know about man by the name
OF Hayest1s he rooms out by our house
and he was advertised in the papers
Q. Then you would not come to the
Hayes theory in this case? A. No, sir,
[ would not. 1 would not have any
thing to do with the Hayes crowd; I
have been asked that three or four diff
ferent times
@. You passed back and forth from
the alley to Fourth street? A. Yes,
sir.
O. From twenty minutes to half an
hour? A. [ walked back and forth,
yes, sir.
Q. The man was there twenty min
utes, you say? A. 1 should think about
twenty minutes; do not know, though,
had no watch. IT,
.. He was standing by the light
While you were walking back and forth
for twenty minutes, is that right? A
He was standing, walking, yes, sir.
.. But most of the time under the
light? A. Well, you could see him,
he stood right there by that place.
.. The buggy turned from Fifth
street, you think, from the direction of
the West hotel, and come down oppo-
site this lamppost and swung into the
lamppost, did it, under the light? A.
Yes, sir, and the man was standing
there when she turned in
IN THE AFTERNOON.
AT the opening of the afternoon
session Grindall took the stand and
was examined further by Mr.. Nye.
He said he fixed the date of his First
avenue observations by the newspa-
pers of the 4th of December. Witness
was asked if he remembered a con-
versatiOn with Mr.. Ebert in the cloak
room last Wednesday, and said he did,
and that it was not the first talk he
had had with him about the case
Grindall was then interrogated as to
the time of day, and generally about
statements alleged to have been made
to Ebert. He denied stoutlY that he
had said anything to Ebert about how
he should fix the time. He also denied
having told Ebert that he was going
to take the girI' to In Old Ken
lucky"