The record-union., 1895-05-10
Gresham's Letter to Willis De-
manding Thurston's Recall.
READ IN TIE EXECUTIVE SESSION
OF THE COUNCILS
The Island Minister Made Himself OBJ
noXious to the Administration by
Allowing Press Correspondents to
Read and Circulate the Contents Of
Letters Criticising the Acts of the
President In Hawaiian Matters.

special TO the hECORD-UNION.
SAN Francisco, May 9.-Tke steamer
Mariposa brings Hawaiian advices from
Honolulu, dated May I'd, as follows:
The letter demanding the recall OF
Minister Thurston was read in the exec
utive session of the Councils yesterday.
was taken by mistake to HongkOng. The
grounds of the objection to Thurston were
confined to single transaction. The
sole of1ense is that Thurston at the Ha-
waiian Legation showed to correspond
ent "a private letter to himself from
Honolulu. The particular letter is said
to have criticised Cleveland aud Gresham
for their attitude toward the January up
rising. The following is Secretary Gres-
hams letter to Minister Willis:
DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
WASHINGTON %. c., Feb. q, 1895.
SiF: l regret to be constrained to bring
to your attention, and through you TO
the knowledge OF the Hawaiian Govern
ment, certain acts OF its representative in
the United States OF which this Govern
ment has just ground to complain. In
order TO set forth the facts with desirable
clearness, it becomes necessary to relate
lully WQdG OCCUIT0u DIV NV lul6rNl6WS
which l had with MIR. Thurston at this
department on the 10Th and 18th insts
The recent seizure OF a ship at San
Diego, Cal, for alleged violation of our
neutrality laws i'll carrying arms to
Hawaii was the occasion OF his first call.
After brief conversation on this sub
ject. l took occasion to remark that | had
information that he was not pleased with
our action in connection with the recent
n HOnOlnin n II
desired TO know why that view WAS
| entertained here. whereupon L handed
him clipping from New York paper
Of the 18th instant, of which full copy
is hereto appended. Alter l read this
article, | asked him if he had furnished
the matter to the paper for publication.
| He at once said he had furnished the
paragraph. which he pointed out.
| L then desired TO know if Mr.. Thurston
had also furnished the same paper the
| concluding paragraphs, purportlng to be
| extracts from letter written by a
| prominent lawyer in Honolulu.
MIR. Thurston answered that he had
| furnished nothing to that or any other
paper, but he had permitted an employe
or agent of one OF the press associations
| to copy at his legation private letter or
letters which he had received, and added
| that the published paragraphs did not
con tain all that was in the private letter
or letters. / thereupon said that | was
aware that was SO, and know the private
letter or letters did not appear in full i'll
the last paragraphs printed. Handing
him typewriter paper, l asked ii the
omitted parts were not contained in the
following passage:
There is intense feeling being mani
tested by the people at what is looked
upon as Mr.. Willis unwarranted inter-
| terence in connection with the present
trials. He is doing everything that he
can to protect the Royalists and harass
the Government. Many OF our best men
ieel it imperative tor our future safety
that some examples should be made.
While the Government is master OF The
situation Tor the present the danger is not
entirely over. Much Indignation is also
Tel: at the fact that although direct in-
formation was given 10 Minister Willis
last November before the shipment OF
arms was made at San Francisco that
such shipment was intended, nothing app
pears TO nave been done TO stop the ship
ment. 1t Is felt that the Hawaiian Gov
ernment has strong ground for complaint
against the United states Government on
tile score of its indifference, ii not at its
active conniving at this Hagrant breac b
OF neutrality. Whether or not the Ha-
waiian Government will make claim by
reason of the breach OF neutrality laws it
| is not yet known, but there is strong feel
| ing here that it should be done.
The action of Mr.. Hawes. the British
representative, is in marked contrast to
| that of Mr.. Willis. An analysis Of the
growth of feeling and facts leading to the
| insurrection showed that it is based
almost wholly on the encouragement
given TO the koyalists by President Cleve-
| land and his announced and constantly
reiterated opinion that the Queen ought
to be restored. and a feeling which,
rightly or wrongly, was disseminated
throughout the Hoyalist sympathlZers
| that upon the slightest opportunity Cleve-
land would take occasion to assist the
Royalists if they could get control to a
sufficient extent to give him an excuse
for SO doing"
Another letter received from Honolulu
says: The most serious feature is the
attitude OF w ills aud Hawes. They are
In constant attendance at the trials. New
man, the attorney defending the insur-
reclion, is constantly in close consulta-
ton with them."
Having read this paper, and after some
apparent hesitation, Mr.. Thurston said
he did not know what right / had to in-
| terrogate him. l replied that he had al
read J. admitted that he had allowed the
published matter to be copied from let
| Iers at his legation, but tnat the publica-
tion was not in full. and l did not sup
pose that he would deny that the papers
showed him contained u correct copy of
the omitted parts. He said that the let
ters containing the omitted passages were
submitted by him TO the representative
| of the press association TO be copied for
publication, not as expressing his official
| or personal views, but as showing the
state of feeling III Honolulu.
[ then remarked that all desired to
know was whether he had furnished the
| matter for publication, and lie replied
| that he mad not furnished it in his repre-
| sentative capacity, or as expressing his
| personal views, but merely as Informa-
| ton. aud in doing SO it was not his pur-
| pose to iujure the Administration, the
! President or Mr. Willis. L remarked that
| he had permitted the letters, including
the omitted parts, to be copied for publi-
cation. and that he, no doubt was dis
appointed that the omitted parts did not
appear; and asked him If he thought he
could, with propriety, as the representa-
tive OF foreign Government at this
Capital. furnish newspapers with such
matters. His reply was that he had
simply furnished 1t as news or intorna-
| ton, which the public might like to hear
from Honolulu, and Senator Kyle had re-
celyed a letter ever more severe in its
terms which had been given to the public.
| TO which [ rejoined that Senator Kyle
SUCH might say and do things which q
foreign Minister could not say and do
with propr:ety.
Here the interview ended. When Mr..
Thurston called at the department. two
days later he informed me that there was
further statement be desired to make.
After being told that If he wished to say
anything more on the subject it should
be in writing, he at once proceeded: II