The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-02-28
SENATORS STILL FIGHTING. MH. HIEL PUTS IN AN AMENDMENT T
 TO THE CIVIL BILL.

It Was the Cause of General Debate in Which Sev, ral of the Members of the
 Senate Took Part-Mr. German Makes
 Lengthy Speech in Which He Said He
 Had No Desire to Detain the Senate.
 Washington, Feb. 27.-The reading of
 the journal of yesterday having been
 dispensed with, and there being no
 morning business, the sundry civil ap-
 propriation bill was laid before the sen
 ate,
 Several small amendments were offer
 ed to the bill and agreed to-
 The German amendment for the issue
 of S1OO 900, 900 of per cent, certificates of indebtedness, and requiring United
 States bonds to be offered to the public
 for twenty days was then taken up, it
 being section of the bill.
 MT. Berry, dem., of Arkansas, made a point of order against the amendment as general legislation on an appropria-
 tion bill
 MT. Hill dem, of New York, before a decision of the point of order moved to amend the amendment by adding the words "and hereafter all treasury notes and United States notes that may be redeemed shall not be reissued, but shall be cancelled"
 Mir Cullom suggested that the discus sion on the general subject should go on.
 MT Berry said that in view of the short time left for this congress and of the fact that there were still three ap- propriation bills to be disposed of there was no necessity of a general discussion on the financial question, as the amend ment was clearly out of order. | MT. Hill proceeded to speak to the point of order, but was interrupted by MT. Mills, dem, of Texas, who asked | the chair whether debate was in order
 Ae vice president replied that it was not without unanimous consent. | MT. Mills then objected unless all could join in it.
 The vice president-The point of order is not debatable, but the chair is will | ing and would be glad to hear sugges- tions upon it,
 MT. Mills asked that the chair submit the question to the senate, as all these questions out of order had been submit ted thereto.
 MT. Hill argued that the German amendment was general legislation, and he conceded that his own amendment would change existing laws However important he might regard his own amendment as a proposition for the | best interests of the country, it was of | the same character as the other. There fore if the one was to stand, the other should stand and discussion would be opened up that would take the next week to decide, because it involved the whole financial policy of the govern ment
 The friends of those who thought that the second clause of the amendment- as to offering bonds to the public would be d reflection on the recent method of issuing bonds would of course resist it. Those who were opposed te the issuing of certificates of indebted ness would resist the second clause of the amendment.
 Collections to MT. Hills proceeding came from both sides of the chamber.
 "I have said enough" MT, Hill re- marked, land am content"
 Several senators demanded vote.
 The Vice President-The motion of or der having been made by the senator from Arkansas, (Mr. Berry) the chair refers to a decision of the senate on | the 17th of February, 1893.
 At this point Mir. Mills interrupted | the vice president with an interroga tory whether he declined to submit the l question to the senate-as was the rule l in such matters.
 Mir. Platt, rep, of Connecticut, de- | clared that there was nothing in the | rules of the senate which required the | chair to submit point of order to the | senate.
 MT Aldrich, rep, of Rhode Island, | asked the chair to divide the question | that is, to decide. first, as to the eer- tificates of indebtedness, and then as to bonds.
 The vice president said that he was unable to do that. Then, apparently somewhat piqued by MT. Mills re- quest he added:
 "The chair will submit the question to the senate and let the senate decide it now. Is the proposed amendment in order?"
 The fact of the question being sub mitted to the senate made the whole subject debatable, and immediately Mir German, dem., of Maryland, took the floor He said that if relief was to be given to the treasury--if authority was to be given to issue certificates of in order to maintain the credit of the government-the only pos siblt way in which it could be given was on an appropriation bill. He re- gretted exceedingly that it had become the duty of any senator to inaugurate such a proposition. He regretted ex- ceedingly that it had not reached the senate from the house as separate measure early in the session when it could have been deliberately entered upon and properly discussed Two years ago this identical question of order had been before the senate and then 1t was held by vote of 28 to IS that he amendment was perfectly legitimate and perfectly proper.
 MT. Villas, dem, of Wisconsin, com- , olained that the discussion sS@s going lar beyond the point of order. The vice president said that he had i 10 power to indicate to a senator the inc of argument which he should pur- sue. MT. German went on with his speech I He had no desire, he said, to detain he senate, if a vote could be come to :