The San Francisco call. [volume] (San Francisco [Calif.]) 1895-1913, 1895-08-13
That Institution Discussed by
the Congregational Mon,
day Club.
DIR. J. C. DAvIDsoN's ADDRESS.
missionaries on Their Way to the
Orient-Dr. McLaren's View or
the Press.


in rags, ana l have found that only about
one in forty of them were worth the cloth
ing" So said Rev. w. II. Tubb at the
meeting of the Congregational Monday
Club. Mr.. Tubb had at one time stated at
a similar meeting that he thought the
membership fee in the Young Mems Chris
tan Association of $40 year was too high.
He had also said that the spirit OF Chris
ttanity that once characterized the asso-
citation is not now so manifest. After
more or less stormy interview with. ID. j.
Mccoy. secretary of the association, and
careful reading of the reports his opinions
had been modified and he read what was
practically a retraction of his previous re-
marks.
In a semi-eulogy of the institution as
conducted at present he said:
It not a paradise for tramps, old or young.
1t is place where self-respecting young man
NAV come without fear of expulsion, even
though he be not fashionably attired.
Usually man in rags has himself to blame
for his condition. l have to do with the lowest
elements of human society as well as men and
women refined, and l cannot commend the
idea OF many that the doors of this beautiful
temple be opened to all classes.
Mr.. Tubb reviewed the history of the
I Dung men NHTlSlldU hSSOCldIlOll III b44lS
CITY, and recalled the street meetings held
under its auspices. He said conditions had
been changed since the tactics of the Sal
walton Army, which he styled the blood
and fire. combination, were necessary.
He said that of 204 benevolent institutions
in San Francisco, which distribute 81 ,500,-
GOO among the poor annually, none, nor all
combined, do the work for young men that
is done by the Young Mems Christian AS
ISOLATION.
He thought the spirit of religion re-
NAMED if there was not so enthusiastic a
manifestation of it as formerly. He be-
lieved the plans contemplated by George
Williams are being carried out. The con-
trast between the management of DR.. Cox
and Mr.. Mccoy was exemplined by the
comparison of the buildings occupied.
As for the charge that too much promi-
nence was given to the gymnasium, he
expressed the opinion that Christian ath-
letes were better than Christian dyspeptics.
The proper place for the discussion of the
economic problems of the institution, he
believed to be the rooms of committees
having its business interests in charge.
Mr. Mccoy had denied that young m en-
who were not well clothed were refused the
privileges of the institution. He said that
not one of the churches represented in
the club gave assistance to the association,
and that only three of the ministers, DIR.
Pond. Dr. Warren and Mr.. Wiley, were
life members.
In closing he said that the association
should not be hampered in its work by I'M
kind criticisms. He had never intended
such. He was not willing to take leaf
from its crown Of bay, and wished it god
speed.
In the discussion which followed DIR.
Williams said it was a mistake that the
CONGREGATIONAL churches were not rallying
to the support of the association. They
had done so right royalty, and he could
speak for Plymouth Church, which contri-
buted more than 5000 on Thanksgiving
day.
DR.. Pond said he thought the apparent
indifference was owing to the fact that the
churches and pastors had more on their
hands than they could do.
Rev. Mr.. Chamberlin spoke of the dis
continuance of the monday prayer-meet-
ings and, in answer to an inquiry, stated
that the Sunday school teachers meetings
were still held, although only four were
present at the last meeting.
Deacon Rankin thought the paper fair
statement of the work of The ASSOCIATION,
and said ''Mr. Mccoy is undoubtedly the
best man to be found for the place"
Rev. T. c. Hunt of Riverside said that
only in railroad centers, or colleges, where
coeducation does not exist, did the asso-
citation do work that the churches
did not. In other places it had yet tc
Justify its existence to his mind. He be-
lieyed that men and women must work
together upon the foundation of any social
superstructure.
Rev. Philip Coombs, Rev. Mr.. Lloyd
Rev. James Woodwork. DR.. Hood, A. P.
Chipron, Rev. Mr.. Hatch and Mrs. Sarah
B. Cooper spoke in complimentary terms
of the present administration of the affairs
of the association.
Rev. Aaron Williams said he was good
friend of the Young Mems Christian Asso-
citation. He thought there were none bet
ter, but he wanted to protest against the
conversion CT a Christian institution into a
training place for priZe-ighters.
Rev. ]. w. Cruzan said he did not I'M
derstand the purpose of the paper. IF the
association Is what it should be, why this
paper2p said he. He believed the work OF
the association might be carried on as well
if not better in less expensive building.
In his opinion 500, 900 could be better ex-
pended than in paying for that building
where young man lily clothed would, il
lot turned ont, feel out of place.
Rev. David Writ said: "When man
has his head in a lions mouth he ought,
of course, tickle the mouth till he gets Lis
head out. l can only explain Mr.. Tubbs
reversion of opinion by his being in such a
DOSlJlOD.
Rev. Joseph Rowell said: "The Young
Mems Christian Association was not on a
basis to reach the young men of the City.
Certainly no ragged young man had been
turned away, because he knew better than
to come. Three-fourths of the young men
who need its help could not come to the
association" He thought associations
failed, as that at San Jose had done, be-
cause they undertook ''too big things. y
Proper foresight was not used in providing
for the greatest number.
In conclusion he said that if Dwight L.
Moody should present himself at the San
Francisco Young Mems Christian Associa-
ton, as he had at Boston in his time OF
need, he would not be welcome. Finally
Mr.. RowelI said with emphasis that the
Sauls of Tarsus did not come from the
ranks of the aristocrats.
Rev. Mr.. Armstrong will give a paper
on the subject, Fair Wealth Distribution
Only Securable Through the Pruning Tax
System" on Monday next, and at the
following meeting Rev. Mr.. Lloyd will
give dissertation on the word Born, as
applied to spiritual things.
Rev. Z. Lyman Hood was elected tc
membership in the club.
Methodist Preachers Meeting.
Rev. w. r. Goodwin announced to the
Methodist ministers that Bishop Warren,
the celebrated Methodist divine and astron-
omer, would deliver his lecture on 1.-THE