Santa Fe daily New Mexican. [volume] (Santa Fe, N.M.) 1885-1897, 1895-05-11
"Jnst tell what he said about Francisco

"Jnst tell what he said about Francisco
Chavez"
THREAT AGAINST CHAyEs.
II understood that he was abused in
Jail by Francisco Chavez, the sheriff, and
he said he was, and he said mo man can
abuse me as he did while was in Jail and
live.' We were both on top of my hack
when this conversation occurred"
$40 you remember the night Francisco
Chavez was killed, and if so where were
you about 8 O'Clock that night?'
81 remember it; about O'Clock l was
at home, and started to pull off my
clothes to go to bed, and put my hand in
my pocket and found couple of checks,
baggage checks, in my pocket-book.
Then | went out down town to hunt for
the baggage wagon, but did not find it at
and didn't find the baggage wagon there.
Then l turned and came back by the old
Guadalupe church and up by Hesch's mill.
There I met Hipolito Vigil with another
man; this was about 8 o'clock or some
where about 8 o'clock. 1t was in the
neighborhood of Francisco Chavez house.
''In what direction was Hipollto Vigil
and the other man going?"
"They we're going west-in the direc-
ton of Guadalupe church. turned back
aud crossed the river and went toward
home. | crossed the river where the road
comes down from the little brick school
10 thara WhaD
| crossed the river l met Francisco Con
zales Borrego and his brother. AT least,
| didn't meet them, but l saw them
there"
(which one of his brothers?"
"Antonio."
SIN which direction were they going?'
"They were going west; they were east
of the bridge when 1 saw them, just about
opposite the band house."
did you see Francisco Gonzales y
'Borrego and Antonio Gonzales y Borrego
again that night?"
eyes; saw them pass my house going
east somewhere about 10 o'clock. lived
then here in house on the north side OF
the river, right above the archbishop's
garden
GLOW did you happen to see them pass
your house going east?"
81 had to come down stairs, and after
got out in tho yard I looked up. heard
some one coming. Thought it was them
at the time and I looked up and | saw
them right behind the paling fence and
they passed by me nearby, beside the
road"
"How close did they pass to your
81 could not say exactly, but it wasn't
over ten feet Z"
(which direction were they going, up
the river or down the river?"
sit would be up the river"
"Where did they live at that timer"
II know where Frank lived: he lived up
Just opposite the brewery; l think 1T
would be south of the brewery, the Fischer
brewery"
"Were you examined as a witness in
this case in the preliminary examination
before Judge Seeds In the month of Jan.
uary, 1o94:"
"Yes, SIR"
cATRoN HAD SEEN THE WITNESS.
"Has anybody for or on behalf of The
defendants in this case been to see yor
about this matter since the beginning o.
the case9"
eyes, sir; Mr.. Catron, at the peniten
tiary, Sunday evening last, believe"
snow tell what took place."
"Mr. Merrill, the deputy warden, tolt
me there was party out there in tn
office that wanted to see me-"
"Did you ascertain that it was Mr.. Cat
ron that desired to see your"
ayes, sir; Col. Bergman had told M
that was as free a man as anybody, blu
| was not released"
estate whether or not you declined t.
see Mr.. Catron"
81 told him 1 didn't care about seeinI
Mr.. Catron. He didn't come to see m
in my troubles, and now that am a fire.
man don't think it is necessary for N
to see him. But went to see him at las
in Col. Bergmann's Office in the peniten
tiary."
"Now, just tell what conversation too
place between you and Mr.. Catron; te
all that you can remember about it,"
Mr.. Spiess objected "to him stain
everything about that on the ground Q
it being immaterial."
The court informed Mr.. Spiess that h
could not tell whether it was material O
not until he heard what the conversatio
was.
eco ahead and state what conversatio
you had with MIR. Catron with referenc
to this case"
81 went in and he shook hands with m
and he said he didn't want me to appea
in the case of Borrego killing Chavez.
told him / didn't see how I was going
get out of it. He said there was way {
getting out of it. If such question
put to me to simply decline to answer
because it might criminate me. l tol
him would consider it. He asked me
] felt favorable about it. told him whe
got out would 60 to his Office and sc
. him."
"Now, what questions we're you to a,
swer did he say, and what did he war
you to refuse to answer on the groun
that you would criminats yourself"
'If they asked me If knew Mr.. Bo
rego then could answer yes. If the
asked me if knew anything about tt
case as to them doing the killing then
could say that refuse to answer, that
, might criminate me-"
: Anything else that he wanted You t
! answer in that?"
. HE told me if anything should com
; up he would protect me in it. said
: didn't want to do anything that ia wront
! that had done wrong enough and
thought had been punished severely fe
, what had done. He said all of this h.
+ been political work. I said don't kno
a about that; that there was no propos
, made to me on political matters in tn
affair, SAID, that would be the affair v
talked of at this time"
"Did you 60 to see Mr.. Catron at h
Office after you got out of the penitel
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