The herald., 1895-10-31

dent of Police Harrigan of st. Louis.
THIS contained the declaration of Heds-
peth, the train robber, that while in jail
in St. Louis he had overheard Holmes
and Pitzel talking of forming oonspir-
acy to defraud an insurance company out
of $l0,0UO by the substitution of a corpse
for Pitzel.
Inspector Gray, of the insurance COM
pany was sent to st. Louis and inter
viewed Hedspeth. On the information
thus obtained warrant was sworn out
for Holmes on the charge OF conspiracy,
and upon this he was arrested in Boston.
The witness went to that city and lden-
tGed Holmes. The latter had made q
verbal statement TO the witness, in the
presence of Deputy SuperintendeDt Has
com, Chief OF Police Watts and John Cor
nish. private detective in Chief Watts
office.
~ asked him where Mrs. Pitzel was. "
said Perry, land he replied that he did
not care to tell Then l asked him
where PiizeI was, and he said he vas in
south America or on his way there, and
the boy Howard was with him. Alice
and Nellie, he said, were in London with
Minnie Williams. He said he had given
Howard to his father in Detroit, and had
sent Nellie and Alice from Toronto on a
train on which ne rode a short distance
to meet Minnie Williams either at Buffalo
or Niagara Falls--I forget which,"
After on unimportant cross-examina-
tion, Perry was temporarily Withdrawn
from the stand and Inspector VIM. Il.
Gray of the insurance conn pany, told of a
trip to st. Louis where he procured Heds-
peth s statement. This was produced but
not yet offered In evidence. In conse-
quence of 1t the tracking OF Holmes was
begun. He was first located at Ogdens-
burg, N. Y, then at Prescott, Canada,
various points in New Hampshire, Bur
o. n. Hanscom. deputy superintendent
of police of Boston, directed Holmes
arrest on telegram from Fort Worth,
Texas, saying he was wanted Tor lar
ceny of one horse" Holmes smiled at
this testimony.
When arrested Holmes said he did not
want to go to Fort Worth. but that he
would go without requisition to Phlla-
| delphia, where he had defrnuded the
| Fidelity Insurance company of $l0 00Oe.
| This was entirely voluntary on Holmes
| part
Anna Robbins, the lstenographer, who
| took the examination Of Holmes by Han
scom, identiti copy OF the statement
| District a ttorney Graham offered the
statement in evidence and Assistant
Barlow read it to the jury. When he hac
| finished the court took recess.
| When court re convened Francis X
| Quinn, an emploveo of the Fidelity com
| pany, identified Holmes signature TO a
| statement prepared by Quinn, as Notary
public. This statement was read and is
| IN substance as follows:
While in Jail at st. Louis Holmes hao
met Hedspetn. who said they could ge'
out of jail for s40n, Holmes to get S3Ot
and other parties 500. Holmes told him
of scheme to defraud an insurance com
pany but that he needed lawyer.
Hedspeth referred him to Howe, ans
after several visits to him, Howe con
frmed Hedspath's sta atement of III,
amount of money needed They dis
cussed the insurance scheme and How
asked where they would get CORPSE
Holmes replied tbat would be all right
as heShad plenty OF experience IN tina
line. The details were carrieo out an,
Holmes made arrangements in New Yer
on August to get the body. but the on
obtained lacked the wart and othe
marks peculiar to Pitz.l. While here h
got word from New York that body wa
ready. He went there got it and brough
it back here to Pitzel. Holmes and hi
wife then left town. He went to 81
Louis, wnere he found ritzel's wife an
children much excited. Holmes had sew
eral interviews with Mcdonald an
Howe, and the latter wanted to abandon
the insurance scheme. Holmes said h.
would take his chances because the staK
was big enough. Howe demanded 500
OF tho money if it went through, an
| Holmes claimed tnat thi5 waa outrageou
as he had taken all the chances ana don
all the dirty work. When Howe threat
ened exposure, Holmes submitted he wa
not afraid, as he had done nothing Grim
I inal.
The money was finally obtained an
| Howe kept S2500 OF it, Mrs. Pitzei bein
sivsn the balance. This concluded til
statement.
Daring its reading three women wer
| ushered into court By a side door. On
was ODESSA Pi;zel and another he
mother. There was a buzz in the conI
room when District Attorney GrahaI
dressed in shabby black, her face pale an
worn, took the stand. In answer to
series of questions from MIR. Graham, sh
said "My name is Carrie Pi1zel and Ber
jamin Pitzel was my husband. In july
1891, we lived in St. LOUIS. My husban
bad taken policy III the hefideilty compan
for $4,000. On July 29th he lett for Phi
ace hpia in connection with the mates
| know the prisoner. Before July 1894
had seen him several times with my hus
band when he came to oui house in 81
Louis and when we lived on Madison az
enue, Chicago. | correspondent with m
husband while | was in Philadelphia
Callowhil street. lie answered them
and in one spoke of settling in Philade
phia. He said he was in the patent bu!
mess in that city. | Knew he was livin
under the name of Perry
"Did you know anything about th
property of Holmes the Sixty-thir
street castlea''
"By my husband telling me about it
"Did he have any interest in that?'
MY husband said he uld-
Ibid you Know that your husband ha
been in Fort Worth before he came
Philadel phiaP
Yes"
An objection being here made on oh
ground of irrelevancy, Mr.. Graham sal
he proposed to show that the Fort Wort
and Chicago properties were In the nam
of Lyman. and both Holmes and Pitzel-
| Lyman being an alias of the latter-we1
interested in them. This. he SAID, RI
lated to the motives in addition to th
desire to get the insurance money, tins
actuated Holmes IN killing Pitzel an
the children, and would be followed b
proof of quarrel between Holmes an
Pitzel concerning the ownership and It'll
to the properties.
The exapination being resumed, Mrs.
Pitzel said:
Holmes said to me that he had pit
5000 in Fort Worth property to pay o
note due Septem Der Is, 1894. My hu.
band said he had a half interest in th
Fort Worth property. 1t was in the nam
of Benton T. Lyman. Holmes told m
! this. The Chicago property, he said
was in the name of Perry on account {
the Tefre Haute trouble
"Did you have any talk with Holme
about the insurance case before it wa
carried outP'
Once he spoke to me about it whe
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