St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1895-02-13
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Sth? A. No, sir; 1 know of no such
thing.
On the 7th day of October, '94, weren't
you out of your mind? A. That is a
question: am unable to say myself
1 might have been.
Q. Do you now recollect that You
swore and threatened to kill your
father and mother, and abused AMI
cursed them, and went to your room
and got a revolver? A. Was the 7th
day of October Sunday? Explain that
and 1 will tell you a story.
@. I don't know-yeS, your mother
says it was. A. On Sunday. Mr.. Nye,
am 1 to tell the whole thing in con-
nection with this?
Mr.. Nye. Yes, sir.
A. On the 7th day of October my
mother came to my fiat and said to me
there had been some trouble with
father about money affairs. Harry
had been talking to her especially
about trouble She asked me as a
favor to her, before my wife, to come
down and talk with him, as she al
ways knows me to be honest. l went
there accordingly, and father came in
and Harry laid down on the lounge;
Harry spread himself out On the
lounge and mother wen. on talking,
and father said nothing: and L said
there was nothing wrong, that every
thing was right in the cash book, ana
that the money was rollel up all right
the night before.
The witness was testifylng in his
usual rapid manner AMI happened ID
notice a smile on Harry's face. This
seemed to anger him ard he shouted
defiantly,
''You can smile-you l.row it,
A moment of intense suspense fol-
lowed and the witness appeared be-
side himself with rage and mortifi-
cation, but at a word from Mr.. Nye
he resumed.
l explained matters to her; and
finally Harry said, why don't you give
him the money; you have it?' said it
was not so; did not have the money,
and did not know anything about it;
and mother interfered and told Harry
to be quiet, and finally father joined
in; and Harry kept stating, why don't
you give him the money? you know
that you have the money" I said, Il
have not 1 said 1 hadn't enough
money to pay out on the insurance, and
if you wait, and if you can prove it, 1
am willing to pay you. l told Harry
positively that I thought he stole the
money. / did not say he did it, but 1
threw it at him, and told him 1 thought
so. l had quite al row with my mother
the first in my life. 1 am perfectly
willing to state the whole thing. I can
go through the main points. I told
Harry not to interfere; that L knew
too much about him-'"Too much about
you; dry up''-and Harry said, You dry
up and get out of this fiat, or 1 will get
a knife and rip you" He walked
toward the door. 1 said, "You won't
rip me. Whenever my folks get ready
and tell me to go L will 60" 1 said to
my mother, This is very hard, mother.
| Do you think your sons are such
thieves, and I am so bad; why do you
raise such litter of pups?'' said that.
/ left the block and went up stairs.
was in fiat B, third floor, and I said,
RI am going to get my revolver and am
going to stay here in my fiat l will
not shoot him in any way, but if he
makes dive at me with a knife, l will
blow his brains out" And 1 stayed in
the fat until 1 went to see Elder Stew
art; and Harry said, ''You take your
goods this day and move out of the
fiat Harry said, ''Move out right
away; don't wait. Don't shake your
head He said, You move out of
this fiat at once" Harry came to the
door, and my wife said, Don't come in
here, Harry" and finally he went down
stairs. That is the story of the fam
lily row-the first row 1 ever had with
mother in my life. If it had not been
for that she would have known the
whole story, and this would have been
prevented. That is all have to say on
that subject.
@. You have a good deal of feeling
against Harry HayN ard? A. No. No
feeling whatever, except that 1 feel
that Harry Hayward is trying his best
to defend himself. l don't blame him,
but don't think my family ought to
suffer. l have to defend myself to
certain extent That is the only rea-
son.
@. Were you down in the office in
the Oneida block on the 8th of October?
A. don't know; 1 think I was in re-
gard to the receipt held in my pocket.
@. Was your father there? A. L
don't know; my remembrance is he
was. 1 think my father was there.
Q. Were you out of your mind on
that day when you and your father
were together? A. I could not tell
you.
Objected to as improper. Sustained.
Q. Did you on that day say to your
father, II am going to have money
somehow; going to rob street cars and
as for Harry, 1 have got a scheme.
know how to fix him-you see if l don't
fix him?' A. 1 did not. There is not
word of truth in regard to it. l said
something, but it was not that way.
will state what it was if you want it.
1 would rather state what it was.
Q. Didn't you use any words to that
substance or effect? 81 am going to
have money somehow; 1 am going to
rob street cars or hold up trains. AS
for Harry, L have got a scheme. L
know scheme to fix him; you see if L
don't fix him?'' A. Your question as Il
whole 1 cannot answer, unless explain
something before There is nothing to
it.
@. Make your own explanation. L
want the question answered, whether
you said anything of that substance or
effect. A. / did not.
Q. Where were you the latter part
of August, 1894? A. 1 was in the city
at times. 1 might possibly be as far as
st. Paul, or drive somewhere around
the city.
Q. In a conversation with your
mother at the Ozark in the latter part
of August, do you recollect that you
told your mother that your father was
in the habit of going to a certain house
of ill-fame, and told her what the peo-
pie said of him? A. 1 did not.
@. Did you state that you were GER
tain of it, and that you grew violent
when your statements were not be-