The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-01-09

county; Nepli, Juab county: Park
City Summit county; ToQs1e, Tooele
county; Ephraim, Manti, Eayette and
Mount PLEASANT, Sanpete county; Sec
ond, Third, Fourth and Fifth precincts
Salt Lake city.
Yours respectfully,
II. j. DUMMY,
Chairman Democratic Territorial
Campaign Committee.
Did you not, continued Mr. Zane,
/ son Nov 90 object ITO Mr.. Sherman
taking any figures of those returns
Yes, and | can tell you the reason
why I did SO. If you like; but whether
| 1T was on the Goth or amy other date
lido not know. I, however. remember
the objection All right /"
Zane ever mind the explanation;
please answer my question Mr..
the figures were for his own use alone,
didn't he?
No. Sir. he did not. Mr.. Letchei
stated that to me- Witness said ne.
wanted to guard against their getting
into the papers at that time.
In answer to a redirect quectEon by
Mr. Willians Commissioner Thatcher
stated that he had objected TO any
member Of the commission. or anyone
else, taking figures from the returns.
because it appeared that the neWspa-
pers had been given information con-
| trary TO an agreement made and he.
lett the safer way and to prevent slls-
PIGEONS would be to keep the returns
Untouched until they had been gone
over by the commission as a body.
! In the direct examination Mr.. VIII
/ liams asked if Mr. Thatcher had a, key
4 to which the witness answered yes,
! but added not to the rooms of the
iconnlSsion.'
Zane. on cross examination. asked
When he replied it was a key to his
bank in Logan, Mr. Zane asked is
] that what you meant when you said
! that you had a key ?'
That is exactly what meant
! It had already been shown by COM
rnissfoners Norreli, Letcller, Sherman
and Tatlock, that Commissioner Let
which the returns were kept.
F. Dewey Richards.
/ Frank. d. Richards, clerk to the ter
ritorial secretary, examined by Mr..
Williams, testified that the secretary'S
rooms were on the floor below those of
fthe commission. There was d large safe
in the hall used in connection with the
secretary's Office, and the secretary and
himself were, so far as he knew, the
only persons who had the combination.
] The election returns as they came in
/ by mail were placed in the Office by
witness and were taken up to the COM
missions rooms afterwards by MessrS.
Letcher, Blair and Park. The Sanpete
returns were subsequently placed in the
safe. When they were deposited there
the safe was locked and they were kept
there until application was made for
them by the commission The safe was
locked all the time, and he had no rea-
son for believing that any one touched
the returns while they were there.
| To Mr.. Zane witness said that the
lsafe was used exclusively by the secre-
tary's Office. Witness and the secre-
tary were, so far as he knew, the only
persons who had a key to the safe.
George w. Park.
1 George W. Park examined by Mir
Williams said he came to Salt Lake in
August, 1885. Was clerk at the Utah
commission.
What part did you perform in count.
ling the returns?''
Il assisted Mr.. Tatlock to count sur
. the tally sheets, poll books and as.
sisted Mr.. Norrell once in going oyer
the returns"
Did you help to, take in the returns
yes, l assisted to carry them i'm
do you know anything of the San
pete returns being put in the secretary's
lsafe?"
Yes. 1 made up the bundle and tool
them to Mr.. Dewey Richards and ,ht
put them in the SAFE
Who got them again when the com
, mission started to canvass then
;again?" a
81 did"
, When was your attention first called
to the alleged changes in the poll list p
Yesterday In court, -
do you know( anything Of suci
SOM"
> Il do not"
} Cross-eNamined by Attorney Zane:
' Had you any suspicion of any sucf
changes being made on the hsts?"
No"
did any one talk to you about dis
crepancies in the lists"
No"
f. D. Richards recalled, in reply t
Mr.. Williams, said he had no knowl
edge OF any changes being made il
the lists by amy person, and had onI,
heard of them a day or two ago.
Attorney Zane recalled COMMISSIONS
Sherman for further cross-examination
< and in reply to the question as to wha
t date Mr.. Thatcher had objected t
2 his taking figures from the tally sheets
said it was about November %. Wit
e ness said that after he had explainev
l to Thatcher that the figures were 70
: his own personal use and not to b
= given out, he still objected.
I cit was about November 80 yo
: made the objection to Mr. Blair bein
V in the room?' asked Mr.. Zane.
u az think it was prior to that"
! Mr.. Letcher, recalled, stated that tn
) letter from Mr.. Dininny was read a
the board on November %.
y The defendants then rested, resery
d ing the right to call C. c. Richards i
: town, and court adjourned till
- o'clock.
In the Afternoon.
Y On reassembling at ? o'clock, Con
+ missioner Tatlock was put upon tn
/ stand in rebuttal. Asked by Mr.. zan
- when the first time was mentioned tn
propriety of the commission going int
) the ballot boxes, witness said it wa
about November 20. as far as he coul
remember.
The plaintiffs counsel said they ha
o several witnesses to put on the stan
/ as experts in handwriting, but the
were not present yet.
: Attorney P. l.. Williams objected
the plaintiffs opening up their cas-
again, such testimony not being rebu
Q tai.
Judge Zane held that it was que
u ton within the discretion Of the cour
= whether such testimony should be az
+ mitted or not, but thought that tt
n exigencies of the case demanded thu
,. the evidence be submitted.
Judge Powers said it would be man
"a festly unjust to allow plaintiffs to il
+. troduce expert testimony unless IL
te defendants were allowed to do III
same thing, and that would involve q
w opening up of the case again, whic
Is meant an endless see-saw being eli