The representative. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1893-1901, 1895-07-24
REPORT OF THIRD DAY,

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The future hearing of the debate was
| adjourned to 10 a. m.
REPORT OF THIRD DAY.
Chicago, July 19-It was knife to the
| knife in the Horr-Harvey encounter.
Mr.. Horn opened up the sharp work right
| at the start. He said his opponent stat
| ed:
"'Mr. Horn has only taught in this de-
| bate proposition that is in the interest
| Of every selfish money lender in the
| world to advocate, and he is here advo-
eating it,
II say to my opponent now, am no
money lender. I have not a dollars inter-
est in any banking institution or Ameri-
can corporation or any other corpora
lions on the face of the earth. I have
| spent my entire life in working for a
living. All the early part of that life
was spent in hard work on a small farm.
I commenced working for myself at $40
per month. There is hardly any kind Of
manual labor in which have not at some
time in my life engaged, consequently
my sympathies are with people who live
| by toll. I never meet a man digging in
trench but what 1 feel like taking off
my hat and saluting him, because once
| dug bitches for a living. I never meet
a brakeman or a baggageman without
| feeling kindly towards him, because for
months 1 was brakeman on a freight
| train night and day, and my first promo
| ton to baggagemaSter was one of the
proudest moments of my life" Gap
plauSe)
Il come into this debate for the pur-
| pose of defending the interests, as my
| friend will learn before finish it, of the
| men who live by honest toll. (ApplauSe.)
I do not think that man becomes a
scoundrel because he saves a part of
what he earns I do not think it is any
thing against man If he even becomes
| a stakeholder in a national bank. l am
| informed brother Harvey, that your
father is fortunate enough to own stock
right about that?'
MI Harvey-No, sir; he does not.
| Mr.. Horr-Did he ever?
Mr.. Harvey-Never did
Mr. Horr-Well, it would not hurt him
| If he had, would it?
Mr.. Harvey-No, sir.
| Mr.. Horrible could own stock in the
| bank and still keep honest, could not he +?
Mr.. Harvey-Yes.
Mr. Horr-A man could be successful
in life without creating in me any spirit
| Of envy. have learned that men who
accumulate money and then invest it in
building up great industries for the bene-
| fit of the people who earn wages bless
| this nation; and any system which in
! jures them necessarily Injuries the people
| who live by daily toll Consequently
| am Just as jealous in my efforts to pre-
| vent financial disaster to the business
| men of this nation as 1 am to see to it
| that the wages of the wOrkingmen are
| not cut in two by using debased and
| deprecated measure of values. Ap-
| plause.) When you divide the unit of
measure, the value of it, into two pieces,
| and make them take the half for the
whole you have injured them in a way
| that is beyond computation"
Mr. Harvey-I do not mean to criticize
| Mr.. Horn personally. That he was an adj
| vocate of pernicious principle did not
mean that Mr.. Horn himself was a bad
| man. This great question is not going
| to be decided by the American people by
| any advocate parading himself before
| them as having been horny-fisted work.
| ingman at one time in his life. dong-
continued applause) I do not object to
| Mr.. Horr giving the evolution of his life.
| do think it was a little unfair to have
| omitted in thta evolution he finally be-
| came bank president I do not deny
| that Mr.. Horn and numerous selfish bank
| presidents have at one time been tillers
| of the soil.
Mr.. Horr-In reference to my having
| been bank president, I omitted it, not
| because I was ashamed of the fact. It
| is true that at one time / had saved what
| we in some places-not in this city
would call competency and I was pres
! ident of a national bank. In the crash of
| 1873 I went down; what I had saved was
| swept away from under me. My posi-
| ton as president of the bank I resigned
| but I did not steal any money of the
| bank; not a dollar. 1 went into the
world again single handed and went to
| work, and while putting in logs in the
| northern part of Michigan / was nOm-
| mated for congress and sent there, serv-
| ed six years of my life, and did the hard
! est work l ever did during those six
| years. I came out of congress just as
poor as I went in. I could not come out
| any poorer; it was an impOSSibility.
| Naughter)
'Mr. Harvey is facetious because 1
! have stated that the money question has
| given me the headache. daughterD I
| did state that But, mark you, it was
the study of the question that made my
| headache, not writing such stuff as in
| this book. That would not give any man
| the headache. daughter0
1.-THE act of 1873 was prepared after
| submitting the question to large num-
| Der of experts all over the United States.
| We had never had a revision of the mint
|
in charge of the mint thought that the
| time had come when something should
| be done. Among the men consulted upon
| the question were Mr.. Boutwell,, the sec
| rotary of the treasury; Mr. Knox, deputy
| controller of the currency; Mr.. Under
| man, the director Of the mint; Mr.. Par
| sons, superintendent of the mint at Phil
| adelphia. My friend here intimated that
| this law must have been wicked, because
| 1t was hitched onto the revision of the
| mint laws. Why, that is where it be-
| longed. That was the place to find it..
| The BILL with the correspondence, was
| submitted to congress in the most conf
plete form, and with an elaborate report
| from Mr. Knox which explained all it's
provisions.
Thousands of copies of the bill were
! sent broadcast to all parts of the country.
| The Bankers Magazine, in it's number of
| July, 1870 printed this report of Mr.. Knox
| and commented on the same. The bill
| prepared by Mr.. Knox was Endorsed by
| Secretary Boutwell,, Of the treasury, and
| transmitted to the senate on April %,
| 1870. The bill. as it was at that time
| drafted, dropped the dollar silver coin Of
the United States and changed the unit
| of value. That was in the original bill
| as 1t was sent to the senate with a letter
| from the secretary Nobody tried to
| cover up that fact. In this report of Mr..
Knox were found all the letters of these
| different experts to whom had been sent
draft of the bill and who had been ask
| ed for their opinion upon it. These let
| ters were all printed by order of the SEN
ate in connection with the carefully pre-
pared report of Mr.. Knox"
Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr, permit me.