Reporter and farmer. [volume] (Webster, Day County, Dakota [S.D.]) 188?-1946, 1895-08-01

~ NHVNtu kuAA III IS@U the prices were ~.
wages l59, and the purchasing power OF
wages 172. Mr.. Horr proceeded TO argue
that at no time In the history of the nation
was the country SO prosperous as Ii was
at that time I'm spite of the "crime OF
1873" He submitted that the statistics
were more applicable TO the conditions nm
der discussion than those OF Mr.. Sauerbeck.
quoted by Mr.. Harvey on THURSDAY, as Mr..
Sauerbeck's figures were made from prices
In England.
Mr.. Harvey In turn took M the matter
or the prices OF wheat for a series of years,
In reply to Mr.. Horr's statement of Thurs
day that the farmer had received as much
for his produce in gold as he had received
when silver was demonetlzed. For answer
he quoted the prices from year to year.
he declared that the arguments OF Mr..
Horr We're those which had been used In
all time TO bulwark tyranny. The declare.
ton or independence was the proper answer
to such arguments. Mr.. Harvey proceeded
by saying that the proper index of prices
was to measure the main articles OF in
ternational use. Tables made IN by gold
men even on these articles showed that
they We're lower than In 1850. Referring
TO Mr.. Herr's argument touching the meas
ure OF value In human toll, Mr.. Harvey
quoted from an article by Mr.. Horn I'm q
paper In reply to a correspondent suggest.
Ing the making of so much work tne
tiai VI a upiidE. MT. HOrr declared
the proposition absurd and confusing.
Mr.. Horn said that Mr.. Harvey had only
quoted a brief extract and 1t did not give
the sense or the article. The correspoud.
ent replied he did not want either gold or
silver money, but merely paper based on
nothing. 1t was only another form of the
socialistlc craze and Mr.. Harvey would
come 20 that In the end. His disease had
not reached its worst stage. 1t would come
to socialism and anarchy In the end.
Mr.. Harvey's friends in the audience
broke out In dissent at this statement and
Mr.. Harvey declared that not a word he
had uttered would Justify 1t.
Mr.. Horr declared that the only applause
which his opponent had secured from his
friends in the audience was when he de-
nounced a large part of the people of the
country as scoundrels and had asserted
that the country was going to the dogs.
Mr.. Horr then took up
The Question of Banks,
which Mr.. Harvey on a former occasion had
denounced. He admitted that there were
corrupt banks, but the business of bank
Ing as carried on was the outgrowth of
civilization and banks were a blessing.
They made it possible for a gold dollar to
do twenty tin es as much as 1t could do
otherwise. He had seen S11a, 900, 600 Of bus
mess settled in three hours In the New
York Slearing houses and less than 5 per
cent OF 1t was done in money. IL it had
been necessary to count all OF this money
1t would have taken an army of men and
long days Of work.
Mr.. Harvey, replying, presented a table
OF failures showing the failures In the coun-
try for a series of years. He pointed out
that during the war, when the circulating
medium amounted TO $40 per capita, fail
ures bad been reduced to a minimum. As
TIE circulating medium decreased failures
increased. The nation owed 1t TO itself to
get rid or this great amount of bank credit
and substitute money for Ii. The interest
on SlO,OOo,OOo OF debts to the banks was the
equivalent of the amount OF the annual
failures. Mr.. Harvey quoted figures as TO
the number and mileage Of railroads In the
hands of receivers, the comparatively large
Increase OF tenant farmers over owning
farmers In 1880 over 1880, as shown by
the census returns, and the great percent
age OF hOusekeepers who are renters. not
owners. Mr.. Harvey said: Il now read
you frfm page 90 OF the February, 1895,
number Of Lippincott's Magazine in a COM
parative review OF the census of 1880 with
that of 1890: In forty-seven states aud
territories the number owning farms In
creased 15S. 951 and the number Of tenant
farmers increased 500, 1877. In 1880 p. 6
per cent OF the farms were cultivated by
tenants. In 1894 3f.13 per cent of the farms
were hired ! refer to this because Mr..
Horn used some detached statements
Concerning Minnesota Farms
the other day, which must be regarded as
very in complete. i have read you a com
pacison of the tables for the whole United
States" ~(appIause)
MIR. Horse did / follow 1t with the
whole.
Mr.. Harvey-I did 1ot So understand IL.
Mr.. HOrr-Well, you did not read that I
said then. Did not pay attention. l gave
the whole.
Mr.. Harvey-Did you have your book
here, the book you read fromf
Mr. Horr-I don't remember about that.
Mr.. Haryey-You have not been having
the books here?
Mr.. Horr-Why, the bulk Of the books I
can't get because you lave got them out
Of the library and keep them. l have
never been able TO get them. applause and
laughter.)
Mr.. Harvey-There are eight or ten pub
tic libraries In this city all having the
books that we are using In this debate.
And the books that / have had here have
been on this table for Mr.. Horr's use IL
he wanted them. No such subterfuge rs
that will save the gentleman In making
quotations in this debate, the authorities
for which he has not produced here for
our inspection. (Applause.) ] now read
you, Mr.. Horr, on this subject from the
Census Bulletin of the census Of 1890, now
I'm my hand. / read you this paragraph:
New York Is the oongested part of a
large urban region and a greater New York
may more fairly be taken into considera-
tion. In New York city and the nine
counties in New York state and New Jer-
sey that are neishboring to that city S1.54
per cent Of the home families are tenants"
Now as 10 yonr city Of New York: THE
highest degree of city home tenancy Is
in New York and is represented by 1857
per cent" Ninety-three and sixty-seven
hundreths per cent of the families In your
city are tenants.
Mr. Horr-I have this TO say In reference
to my conduct OF this debate without
bringing In my books, and / alLude TO that
reminding you of the gusto, for which
Brother Harvey Is so peculiar, With which
he says: Il now pass the book over to
Mr.. Horr," when he knows that 1t Is i'm
possible for me during the excitement of
the debate to examine ar. look into the
merits of the book or his references. The
only times when l have done II, i have
caught him In misquoting the book and
made him own it right here before the
audience.
Mr.. Harvey-Mr. Horr, that is not true.
Mr.. Horr-The audience knows whether
that Is true or not.
Mr.. Harvey-The record Of the debate
will show II.
Harvey on Organised Labor.
ar uarycr. A. tho conclusion of this dabate