The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1895-11-01

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drsa % the.r mother and never mailed hy
Holmes he said, he had an interview
With Holmes IN the cell room Of the city
haR on November n ISa4. about the body
found IN the Ca.sowhiN street house
Holmes said 10 him IL was. not Fitxsls
body. but a substitute. He told me ne
left the Eleventh street house on sunday,
September :. in the morning. and went 70
New York. where he went 10 MEDICAL
student and procured a corpse. tie put
il in trunk and had Il taken by farni-
ture cart driver 20 Jersey City. where Il
was shipped on the same train 70 Phiia-
delphia that Holmes came over on. lie
reached this city about Z O'clock in The
afternoon. ne said. and met Pifzel al the
main cffice Of the Western Jnson Tels-
graph Company and gave him the cheek
for the trunk. Then he went up 10 the
Eleventh street house. and that night
went West. The next pace he saw Pitzei
VAS in Detroit. where he met him at the
postofrice- | asked him where Pitzel and
the children. were. and he said in South
America. he refused 10 give me the name
OF the student from whom ne got the
corpse. saying the student was supposed
70 be dead. as years before he and Holmes
had swindled an insurance company out
OF $4,000. Beside. the student was a pros
porous man ot family. He would only
give his name n the event of being
brought up for murder He said he had
told P'tsei how to prepare the substituted
body; 10 place il on the floor with the arm
on the breast, put the ltqufi in the mouth
and set fire to 1t. The liquid had been
used for Cleansing clothes. few days
before his arraignment for conspiracy. TO
which he pleaded guilty, 7 saw him in the
cell room. and he said the story he had
told me about the substitution of body
was not true. and that the corpse found
was that OF Pi;zel | said: Well. Holmes
IL that is the case. then you have mur-
dered Pitzel and the children. He said;
No, did not
The detective then related how Holmes
found PitZels body as already published
in statement by Holmes Il asked him
where fhe children were" continued the
detective, and he said Minnie Williams
had them in London. The last time |
saw Howard he said 10 me. was in ne-
troit on the "Wednesday preceding nly de-
parture for Toronto. Minnie Williams took
dinner w]ah me AT Sieses hotel. and gave
Howard to her. Then I took the girls 20
Toronto. pat them on train there end
left them at the first station outside the
city. Before leaving Alice I pinned sea
on her breast. Alice was 10 go 20 Niagara
Falls and wait for Minnie Williams and
Howard, when they wosld all go 20 Lon
don. IL YOU go 70 New York the shipping
department there will show you that two
boys. girl and woman went - London.
l told Minnie to GU. of Nellies hair and
dress her as a boy 50 as 10 avoid S1s-
peion.' | asked him what he had done
with the childrens trunks. and lie said
that when ne left Indiana polls TO take the
children TO Chicago he left the .runks in a
hotel on West Madison street and never
took them away. In June. IN company
with Mr.. Perry. ] saw him in prison. and
then The told us he had given Howard TO
a man named Hatch I'm Indianapolis, and
that was the last he had ever seen ~ him
Iae last he saw of the girl was in To-
ronto."
Detective Geyer was here temporarily
Withdrawn, and Mr.. Graham offered 10
prove the finding CT the bones of Howard
at Irvington, suburb of indianapolis.
and the bodies of the girls an cellar Of
house I'm Toronto. The defense objected
and the jury were taken TO their room
while lengthy argument of the admissi-
pihty or the testimony on both sides took
place. Judge Arnold caused a mild SEN
sa1on by declaring that the killing of the
Children had no connection with the trial
OF Holmes for the murder of the father.
and shat no such evidence could be intro
duced. This was the ffrst turn in favor of
Holmes since the beginning OF the trial.
and a decided setback for the common
wealth The prisoner however, made no
sign when he heard the decision.
Geyer was then put under cross-examin-
alton. He was asked but few questions
and corrobOrated his former statements
Superintendent of Police Linden, of this
city, testified that Holmes made a state
ment to him in his office about January
last. He had requested the privilege of
making the statement without the knowl-
edge Of his counsel. In this he said that
having failed 10 get a body I'm New York.
he came hack to Phladervhta and on Sat
urday night, September ]. he met Pitzel
The latter was Respondent. spoke OF his
sick chaadren, and said there was nothing
for him TO live for. or words to that effect
Mr. Graham said that with the exception
OF two or three Witnesses the common
wealth was ready TO close