The San Francisco call., 1895-07-30
The Silverite Quotes Figures
While His Opponent
Theories.
BULLING THE MONEY MARKET.
How the Standard Metal Is Made
to Serve the Capitalists Pur-
poses.
Copyright, 1895, by Azel F. Hatch.)


CHICAGO, ILL, July 29.-The Horr.
Harvey silver debate came to an end to.
day. Every seat in the art gallery of the
Illinois Club was occupied when time was
called for the closing session of the great
war of words and the walls were lined with
listeners eager to catch the closing remarks
of the contestants.
Twenty-four hours in all have been con.
sumed In the debate, which ran through
eight days, and 1000 words in all were
spoken. According to the original agree
ment the two gentlemen have still $500
words each in which to close. This is to be
submitted. however, in manuscript any
time within seven days.
During the entire debate Mr.. Harvey
read from manuscript, while Mr.. Horr
spoke extemporaneously. The audience
was on every occasion composed mainly of
free silver men, and did not seem to weary
of Mr.. Harvey's reading, but cheered him
at every opportunity. Mr.. Harvey this
afternoon denied that he had been fur
nished with money by the silver miners to
aid in the debate, and the tone in which
he said, 81 was not hired to talk here"
seemed to indicate that he thought his op-
ponent was.
Resolutions were passed thanking the
members of the club for the use of
their house, and expressing appreciation
of all that had been done by various ladies
and gentlemen to assist in the carrying on
of the debate. A resolution was also passed
thanking both Messrs. Horr and Harvey
for the mass of information with which
they have presented the public since the
debate began.
Mr.. Horr led off the closing argument
with the sweeping assertion that in the
few cases in which the figures cited by
Harvey were correct, they had tended to
weaken his own argum ents. He then re-
ferred to Mr.. Harvey's statement which
the latter had said was based upon the
! authority of Carroll D. Wright, United
| States Commissioner of Labor, to the
/ effect that there were between two and
| four million unemployed men in the coun-
try. In refutation OF these figures he pro-
duced telegram from Mr.. Wright ex-
pressly disclaiming them.
| The effect of this shot was spoiled, how
ever, by Mr.. Harvey's explanation that
these were the only figures that he had
used in his book that had not been verified,
and that Immediately after the appear
Mr.. Wright and upon receipt of his reply
had erased the incorrect data from the
stereotype plates of the book. After this
temporary depression the silver champion
| expressed his obligations to every one who
had assisted him in the debate. He then
said:
"In all history in the struggle between
| liberty and oppression, as they have
alternately risen and fallen, it had been
truthfully said that a free press is the
/, greatest bulwark of liberty, and tyranny
has assailed it as the greatest influence ar
rayed against it. AS oppression rises the
press is muzzled. 1t is brought up and
made to speak deceit and mislead the
people"
Mr.. Harvey then complimented the news
papers for their extended reports of the
debate. Mr.. Horr in replying to Mr.. Har-
vey's criticism of the press, said he had
nothing to say against the papers men,
toned, nor any other paper in the city.
"Some of them" he said, "have treated
me as they saw fit. l had one paper thrust
in my face at the door of this building with
column of belittling remarks about me
that were very cutting, but when l found,
upon further perusal, that the fellow
favored free coinage of silver, and favored
it only because it was step to break down
all the laws of the country, found out
that it was the worst kind of an anarchistic
creed, and threw it to one side.
"But when you come TO the great Ameri-
can press as a whole / have no fault to find
with it. AS rule the insinuation that the
! leading press of this country can be bought
up for the purpose of producing legislation
in the interests of any particular people
against the interests of the citizens of the
| United States. / do not believe it."
Mr.. Harvey resumed the argument by
producing a printed table, showing the
amounts of silver coined annually from
! 1892 to 1873, for the purpose of demonstrate
ing the falsity of the statement made by
the monometallists that for the first fifty
years of the present century the United
| States was Oh a silver basis, and on gold
basis from 1853 to 1873. The statement, he
said. that gold did not seek the mints for
the last thirty years prior to 1873, was un-
true. He quoted from the United States
coinage laws appendix of 1894. The stock
of gold was there given as $3,9Oi ,9OO,O 900,
the stock of silver So, ,931 100000. On ac-
count of the great use of gold IN the arts
| he maintained that there was not enough
| of the yellow metal to answer the needs of
money.
| Mr.. Horr maintained his previous state
ments that no o.nation alone could establish
the old ratio of 16 to 1, and he did not be-
lieve that Mr.. Harvey thought that any
one nation could do it. Nations by their
| laws did not fix the value of things. They
could not do it if they tried. The actual
value of the two metals at the present time
was wide apart. The ratio of 16 to was
to-day thing of the past. Always from
the earliest foundation of society, the rela-
tive value between gold and silver had
been fixed by the people of the world, and
not by legislation.
| .Mr Harvey and l agree that the free
coinage of silver will decrease the measure
| of value used here in this. country" said