The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-05
the postponement motion was allowed
to go in.
A Vote A-aiuxf Suffrn.ye


Su Tor poSiponement would cast his
vote against woman suffrage. The mo-
ton was designed to that end. He did
NOT want to wait and hear from his
constituents. He had heard from them
before he came here.
Coray again put his foot in it by
demanding the previous question. He
received no second
Thurman said there had been no
unlalrnesS toward the minority. The
gentleman from Davis had been given
the courtesy of closing the debate. That
was courtesy not right. 1t would
be unprecedented and undignified for
the convention put the measure out
OF its regular order. If it should be
found afterwards during the conven-
ton session that the honest Senti-
ment or the people of Utah was against
suffrage. then the matter could be re-
considered. He promised he would be
among the first to move. The conVen-
ulon had done too many things in an
undlgnlhed manner. 1t had been too
much OF a spectacular body. He repeat
ed that. IN effect. whether Intentionally
or not, vote for postponement was a
vote against woman suffrage.
Had Heard Nothing.
Murdoch. of Beaver. had not heard
anything against suffrage from his
constituents. He had heard from them
In favor of it before he came.
talllday. of Utah. said this was a
pontlcal trap. Time was wanted in
which 10 change mems minds. He
could listen to the best orators until
the Fourth Of July. and not have his
opinion changed. He was ready to go
ahead and do his duty.
SquireS said he was not against Wo-
man suffrage. He had always believed
the people of Utah favored it. He be-
heVed they would still favor it. Are the
advocates of suffrage afraid to submit
the matter to the people? He wanted
the gentleman from Beaver to wait to
hear from his constituents. He wanted
to know which was the most dignified.
to rush thing through with the pos
sibility of reconsideration or to post
pone 1t until the people could be heard.
The petitions for separate article had
been sent out all over the territory.
Creer-Who are on the committee?
Squires-Grant H. Smith. police JUS
tice, is one. He has great deal Of in
huence here.
Coray called for the previous ques-
ton, but it was voted down by AZ to
81.
Roberts For POstponement.
Roberts said that postponement
should be made. During the debate in
committee of the whole the others had
challenged the showing of opposition
10 the article. Now that sentiment
had been aroused they desired to fore
stall 1t by immediate action. Would
that be dignified? What party pledges
would be broken if postponement were
taken? What harm could come to the
question of suffrage? However, if the
majority put the article through DUR
ing the afternoon it would mean
thousands of votes against the con-
stitution.
1t was well enough for Thurman to
talk OF reconsideration, but Thurman
knew it would take a two-thirds vote
to reconsider. He cited as evidences
of an aroused feeling the ladies' mass
meeting this afternoon, the mass
meeting this evening and the chamber
Of commerce and labor union resolu-
tons. The convention had done him
honor i'm listening ITO his protest. But
it had also done itself honor in being
willing to do such generous thing.
Now it should listen to an aroused
public sentiment. He believed he was
speaking to men of character who
would not want TO summarily place a
provision in the body of the consti-
tuition if a majority or a large minor
iity were against it.
1t Would Be an Outrage.
Kerr said he was in favor of post
ponement. He did not believe a vote
for that meant vote against suff-
rage. If it did it meant there was to
be change in the minds of dele
gates. Two speakers said their con-
stituents had been heard from. But
the people of Beaver and Garfield are
not the people Of Utah. At no meet
ing during the campaign did he hear
suffrage mentioned. The people of
Utah have not fully considered the
subject. During the delay the suff-
ragists could have their own meet
ings and their own petitions. In the
declaration of rights the convention
had declared for free speech. This is
a country where freedom of speech
and of the press is guaranteed. Yet
here was an attempt to shut off the
free speech of the people of Utah. 1t
would be an outrage TO do SO. If
postponement for ten days meant de-
feat then the proposition should be
defeated 1t is one in which the peo-
pie are much interested. Did the gen.
tleman from Utah Halliday) mean
that the delegates could be drawn into
a trap and mad their own minds? The
convention should stand for free
speech. Let the people of Utah make
known their minds.
Not Autocrats.
Van Horne said there seemed to be
an idea that the delegates were auto
Gratis who should say what should go
into the constitution and let the peo-
pie accept or reject it. But delegates
are merely servants of the people
They should listen to the people
There would be no indignbty in wait
ing for few days TO hear what the
people had to say, if they are chang
ing their minds on this matter. He
had heard ON all sides of this change
Even suffragists had said to him they
would not submit to dictation and II
they were compelled to take suffrage
or no statehood they would take the
latter.
Wells For Delay.
Wells said: 81 am in favor of de
ferring this question for the present
Statements have been made by TIL
minority upon this floor that portion
of the people of this territory desire t
be heard upon the proposition. w
must take notice of the fact that meet
ings have been called and petitions ar
in circulation asking that some differ
ent action be taken than that eX
pressed the other day as the will o
this convention. To take action nov
would be to deny citizens a right which
we guaranteed them yesterday by tn
adoption of our bill of rights wherein
we say the right of petition shall no
be denied. And when the storms o
petition come and the rains Of remon
STRANGE descend, if our house is bull
upon a rock it will stand, and if it il
built upon the sand it will be sweep
away.
do not let US be accused hereafter
gentlemen, of railroading this measure