The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1895-08-07


I viii cause it to be printed and TO get
into general circulation
Tffth-That for all tho tfrne OF which
we have knowledge gold and silver were
treated equally as money: both had
right to enter the minis in all the ccun-
tries OF the world until 1916. when England
closed her rnin.s 90 silver. and Is73-7i.
when the United States. Germany. France
and the Latin Union followed. And until
rg7z-74 tn. commercial values of the two
metals were substantially at parity With
the legal ratio. That this condition made
10th metals available for Use 2s primary
rvorey, and that the demand for primary
money was relieved by the volume OF both
metals.
sixth-Tha. the prices OF all property
are now measured in gold alone and are
substantially at the present time one-hals
what they would be under the bi-metaliic
system Mr. Horr frequently substantial
- makes this admission.
Seventh-That there were $1fs .d10 no In
silver coined In our minis prior TO 1879 all
OF when coined prior 20 1s5S was primary
money. and since 1865 the silver dollars
were primary money. and By virtue of the
right of silver TO be coined into primary
rnoney. through the medium OF silver dol
lars, the whole system was exerting its
IN fuerco as a Tseagure of value. and stood
ready TO be coined. and 10 share equally
with gold the demand for money. That
all the silver coined since February L.
1s7g has been token money representing
gold. is not exerting any influence as
measure OF values. and is not performing
the functions OF primary money.
Eighth believe those VINO read and
carefully digest the debate VIII conclude
that have made good all the propositions
set forth I'm my opening statement: that
Mr. Horr found no errors In COINS Finan-
xf~f ha Ia
page 2. where il stated that the silver
coined prior to 1873 was slf5. 900. which
we both agree should read Sls3.oo0.poo.
And now. excepting 80 words shall use
10 reply 20 MIR. iorrs summary. l am
closing this debate. The object sought by
discussing questions affecting the welfare
OF human beings is to see wherein we can
advance the general conditions of people
and detect errors in civilization. The
world. time out of mind. has had business
panies aud most men and women's lives
have been full OF troubles I'm acquiring the
necessities and comforts of life. That our
present civilization has not removed the
possibility OF these recurring pafics. and
that to "a large majority OF the people on
this earth their almost exclusive attention
and labors are given TO acquiring living,
with. In some instances. indifferent and
discouraging results. will be admitted by
every one.
l.
provements and inventions would lessen
the necessary toll OF man. and was prom
Use of day to come when with little labor
all would he provided for and humanity as
n whole would he benefited. Has 1t had
that result All viii answer that II has
not The lines of demarkation between
the rich and poor are more marked than
ever. and the percentage of people who
devote all their time In a struggle for ex-
istenee is greater now than at any time
known to modern history. This Will not
be denied by any tut the selfish few,
whose wants being supplied know nothing
OF the wants of others. And yet, If there
were no defect in our civilization. inven-
tions would have the effect first int oied
for them We are sufficiently advanced
now in this respect TO provide all the peo-
pie of the world with the comforts OF life
hy one hours work each day by each in
dividual, while the remaining hours not
devoted 10 sleep would be used In the pro-
motion of human happiness and the ad-
yancement OF thu human race. That the
passageway 10 "a new era Is blocked by
defect in our civilization should be admit
ted By all.
We are in a commercial age. where In
yentions. education and all forms OF hu-
man skill and ingenuity are made 10 pro-
mote the personal ends of men or combin-
aticns of men. Such an age promotes
seihshness in all things. 1t follows that
1t Is not only lawful. but desirable, to mo-
nopoize TO ones self property OF any and
all kinds, no matter how unnecessary
II may be, In promoting the comforts or
the person In possession. In all such in
starces II is held in utter disregard of
the discontinue OF the wants of others.
To own farm which one with reasonable
assistance can till and beautify. make
grand and refined with the handiwork of
art and genius is the civilization of hui
mainly To own thousands of acres, as
does Lord Scully I'm this state inhabited
BY tenants whose labor supports him in
riotous living, is n law born of property
interests and not of humanity 1t Is this
era OF seltishness that made ii possible
for selfish men 10. in their own interest.
demonetize silver and increase the value
of their holdings as measured in other
peoples property. And as money is a
thing every one must have. these dealers
in money have thus been enabled to
mortgage the producers of the world to
them. which by its own self-operation will
bring on crisis. IL the people will act
unselhshly. intelligently. In this crisis. we
will learn secrets in the science of civil
lization heretofore hidden from us that
will result In the dawn of a new era In
the history of the world. and the passage
from the present crude and commercial
age into new era and a brighter civil
lization beyond"
Reioinder by II. G.. Horr.
I stated that when either a gold or
silver unit is being used as measure of
value. the one SO used can ever be above
or below par. When one is quoted at a
premium IL is never in actual use. hut Is
measured nv the other which is in use.
This Is self-evident. Mr.. Harvey took
two days 10 discuss crime which never
existed. aud had no time to defend the
many errors In his book repeatedly point
ed out and which he promised 10 explain
later. TIe now tells what wonders he
would have done had he not been driven
from his essays. which ne calls his reg
ular order" While preparing his sum
mary II occurred 70 him that there IL one
honorable body IN the United States
which lie has not yilified. tho supreme
court Hence he goes out Of his way 10
Islander the tribunal. bent upon his gen
erai plan to prove that there is nothing
hut rotteuneSs In this republic. Nowhere
IN the debate or ip the summary has he
shown the advsa oillty Of this nation free
Is coming silver at rs 10 !. nor can he
do il. His summary. like his debate. at
temps - dlsparaEn honest industry thrift
ard soi%enev. tits whole system is AT
war with the best achievements OF civil
iz8tion, end clearly aims at the destru,-
ton Of law. individual development and
social order. II need be. through revolu-
lion. His whole case rests on an fnaict-
r1eut against humanity aud he Is unable
- detect anything but bad odors in a
world full Of sweet fragrance. out tIpon
such wicked misrepresentation. I have
shown that Mr. Harvey Is devotlrr his
lie 10 deceivtng the people. and that such
bows As "t'oin" arc rtiy described In
Psalms wi. S-'"rhcy go astruy as soon
as they hc horn. speaking lies
MIR. HaF.x-p~sz n aZs W.