The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1895-07-06


adopted In the place of another ps
cause / was mistaken as to that TACT.
Yes. si~. when ! wrote the return iio.
this junket" | meant Mr.. Masseys TRIP
TO Canada. ! meant that as the reward
for the trip 20 Canada. Mrs. Massey
told me their Uhe Masscys) expenses
on the trip had been paid by others. i
believed that Mr.. Womack paln mem en-,
trip-the fact that he travelled with Mr.
Womack. who had been indicted. and
from other circumstances.
did not know that the indictment had
been dismissed when / wrote the article,
! found II out afterwards. i was try
Ing to have TarbelFs language lessons
placed upon the alternate list. The plac-
ing OF this book on that list would sim
ply have had the effect of giving the
teachers an option 10 choose IL III they
pleased. or course II they selected my
ment of some other work. as they could
not use two woihs Of the same Kind.
went with Professor Blackwell 10 inter
view Governor OFerrail relative 10 piac-
iihs Ia'0''rS Language Lessons o" the
II never came to a question OF prices by
the board. because we never had an
opportunity 10 put In a bid. did not
sen "A sample Of the books 10 Mr.. Mas
sey because we did not think he would
look at them. ! was not present at the
meeting of the board In 1894. ] did not
know until ] read the same in n paper
tai list was adopted after the meeting
IN March. 1894 and that other bidders
had a right to have their books entered
on this list did not know at the time
wrote that article that there was a
consensus Of opinion by the teachers
h tnp4pughont tie state. in favor of the
Governor. O'Ferrall or Attorney-Gencral
Scott had much "a DO with the adoption.
| believe they left Il chiefly to Mr.. Mas
scy | relieve the Governor and the At
iievc that the only member Of the board
In the "yocative and dative mood" was
Mr. Massey. and the Daughter OF the
Horse Leech" was the Amcric an Book
CON panY. / DO not rcDudiate the Sent:-
mCnt that the words. 'vOcative and da~
tive mood We're intended to convey that
idea.
Mr.. McGilvray did refuse to le, me see
The contracts, and turned to Mr.. Scott.
Mr.. scott supported him in the matter,
and told him not 10 let me see them
asked the Assistant Attorncy-General
whether he was speaking az the Assistant
Attorney-General or simply as Mr. Scott,
AID that had a right to sec the con-
tracts under the statute, and intended &c
DO so. They were sent to me a the hotel
that evening. cont know how they got
there. / intcrded 10 get out mandamus
10 compel the board to allow me TO see
them.
The copies Of the contracts were lost
IN some way or left at the hotel. and
why ! employed Attorney rutherford to
get out a mandamus to secure IT, Mr..
RUTHERFORD wrote TO Mr.. Massey, and. |
think, sent Mr. Massey n CODY OF the writ,
and | received the order to sec the con-
tracts. ] saw evidences on the part Of the
Superintendent OF the Board OF a desire
to keep me from the inspection Of those
contracts. and from that | considered It
dark lantern proceeding. as ! stated
I'm that article. | had a right under the
law TO as many copies as ! wanted. did
not apply TO the Governor for an order TO
see the contracts. did not want TO bother
him al he Ia a very busy man.
| made the application to Mr.. McGiivrav
I'm May. | wrote to Mr.. Rutherford in
July to get the copies. Mr.. Rutherford re-
piled that he was not allowed to examine
the minutes of the board nor to get the
copies of the contracts adoptet March
18Th. | then wrote to him 10 sue ont. II
necessary, a writ Of mandamus to compel
the board TO allow him 70 see them, IT
Rutherford. ! never intended 10 convey
the imprt ssion that the only way that
Mr.. Rutherford gained access to the min
utes and contracts was under urea OF
mGndamus proceedings against Mr.. Mas
sew
/ stated that Mr.. McGilvray had de-
cIined TO allow reputable gentlemen to
see The contracts. There is rothing in the
article 10 indicate that we Ont. Kfea
ana myself had preViC Osly been In pos
St ssiCn OF copies of the contracts. AS a
matter of fact. ] don't know mat inc
American Book Company allows twenty
eight per cont. III count. ! took the testi-
mony of a bonk-fg, mt as to this. ana
f,tpared 10 prOdi &c evidence TO prove
that the difference I'm the exchange prices
against the 10000 school children ID me
state Of Virginia amounts TO thousands OF
dollars. 49,.
/ cannot be absolutely correct but |
know that a difference of two cents
against this big number Of children would
-. 4 - Il
say how r.any If you insist upon the an
svcr as to VIII v | the ught Mc6liVray
v.arted TO keep the contracts in the dark
will answer.
A. Because | was reliably informed that
be was in the pay of the Am arican BOOK
Company.
CAPTAIN WISE OBJECTS.
CAPTAIN Wise objected TO Mr.. McGiiyray
being further brought into the matter in
this way. and as Mr. Nicely aid not press
tie question that was asked about MIN,
the witness did not answer II.
thought that Mr.. Massey ought 10
oren the list to competitors. and so told
hin,ti the interview, and stated that his
action H. connection with the adoption IN
1890 ana 1894 had been criticised. told
him that | thought everybody should be
allow ed l., bid also talked 10 him about
the LOCK. "rarbelrs Lai guage Lessons,
that | wanted to get adopted ana lelt
lin under the impression that he was
favorable TO my book. | think he did men
ton something about another bOolI-Max-
wells Grammar. | think. If that book
"Ta~hell's Language Lessons had Deen
adopted ! do not think the article or the
Odd would have been published, because l
would have been satisfied, and DO not
think that ] would have investigated the
actions of the board. hence would not
have made the discoveries that dli ana
therefore the article would not have been
published. .
found what believed to be undue IN
ffuence on the part of the American BOOK
Company. and went on TO New YORK ana
stated the extent OF my lnVesusa'ioh 10
CHM & Co. told them before leaving
that / proposed TO publish the matter.
They left IL TO me-
/ then communicated with Mr.. Small.
and had the rratter published. Inere mas
never been any act of mine that coulu De
construed by the directors or publishers
Of the Pilot Publishing Company 10 the
effect that CHM & co. would be respon-
siblc for the results of any Incl suit tnat
might grow out of the publication, Ginh
4 Co. never saw the article before IL was
captain Wise objected to Judge Neely's
consuming the courts time WIN lrrele-
want matter about CHM x co,
Mr.. Byrd said he was not the owner OF
the Winchester Times. Ii belonged to ms
mother and sisters. He seml-occasiohaiy
wrote editorials for It,, u,,
Questioned by Mr. ThCm. witness sad
CHM & co. were large bidders in Louis
lana DO | think they were bidders as
regards 'Tarbells Language Lessons
YES, sir. | do not see II In the list, ana
sSppose 1t was not adopted. The trouble
Was, rot that the b., ok was not ado pied
as in Virginia. but because we were net
allowed 10 bid here. as we were III '.at
State. | believe Mr.. Massey was the cause
OF my being refused. ..,-.,
After a searching technical examination
by MIR. Thorn az to the difference N me
contracts in other States, as compared