The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1895-01-22
Mr.. Uumm,ns Not In Deep.

the Commission. slight corrections
were made.
Mr.. Uumm,ns Not In Deep.
John A. Cummius, sworn: Was
there to testify on his own behalf; |
no threats or promises had been .
made to him; first knew Of arms be-
ing brought here was on the even
ing OF Dec. 3; that was the same
day Major Seward returned from !
abroad; two weeks prior to the Ma
jor's return, Nowlaiu came to the |
house and asked the witness il he !
had any guns; witness said yes;
Nowlein then said that when the
time came he would want them;
witness said no, that they were
there for witness own protection;
Nowlein said that he would wait I'M
til the old mans Major Seward) re-
turn; that was the first time witness
heard about arms; when the Major
returned on Dec. 3, witness and Sew
ard had conversation; witness said
that he had heard that the Major
had gone after munitions OF war;
Seward says yes, but that he had
not done the work himself; tug
had taken the material to sea and
transferred it to vessel, and she
was on the way; witness said that
he was very sorry that he had done
this, as it would bring trouble on
the people in the house; the Major
then said that the trouble would
attach to him alone; the Major then
said that he had received letter
from the Queen to take to San
Francisco and present to Rudolph
Spreckels and that he would assist
him with money; witness did not
see the letter but that was
his understanding from Major
Seward; witness said to him that
Spreckels had only just gone back
to San Francisco; then Seward said
that +. +. Follis, who was with
Spreckels, would do the work; Follis
had been in Honolulu with Spreckels
and a young man named Bluxome;
none other in the family knew OF
this matter excepting witness him
self; nothing further was said about
the matter then; on Tuesday John
Kahoeka arrived in town from Wal.
manalo with horse; Kahoeka told
witness that he had been sent for
the Saturday previous by Major
Seward; witness, Seward and kaho.
eka met shortly afterwards; saw
Seward give kahoeka $50 in gold
think the money was to buy food for
people on Manana Island; there was
also talk about boat having been
sent on Monday; Kahoeka then said
hat ArIAra mould Ian N hy
Seward for two OF Nowlein's men
that he would leave Nowleins mel
and others on Manana Island, as he
was going away; few days after
wards Kauli came to town and re
ported to the Major in the presenc,
OF witness that the schooner haC
been seen; on a Sunday afternoon
the Major aud Nowlein came int
witness room and told him that the.
had sent a mau for the pistols on TIN
island and that they could not b
found; they asked witness to write
letter; another day the Major cam
to witness and was excited; he SAT-
that the pistols would not be give
up to him; witness said il was non
OF his business; witness said to hlr
that he was doing something tina
would got witness aud family int
trouble; Seward said that witnes
aud his family would not be- trou
bled; all the blame was on him; hi
(Major's) part of the work had cea'
cd when the arms had been LANDED
later the Mai or told witness that tn
steamer Waimanalo had gone i
search OF the schooner; about thre
days after this witness telephone
to Waimanalo aud found that kahI
eka had returned; Kahoeka told wi
Ness that the boys were still on Nj
mana and that nothing had been see
light was given Kauli by the Maj'
for the purpose Of signaling Il
steamer Waimanalo, aud orders Wei
given him what to do il the sign
was answered; Kauli came to tow
and reported to Seward in tho pre-
ence OF witness that everything
had been ordered to do had be,
done; witness was at home on Il
day OF the trouble.
Making of the Bombs.
- ~ w n'hci, Dcibic DtiiS s"Si
stated that he would give his oV
testimony, as he did not desire /
family to DO brought into Coul
About the latter end OF March la
was called to the Marshal's office
account of men coming to witne
house; told the Marshal that
could not avoid the same but tn
he would try to do so; saw Movie
three days after; Nowlein said
had heard that witness had had ia
with the Marshal; witness told h
that the talk was about his oN
affairs; about the latter end Of Oct
Der saw Bertelmann, Nowlein a
Peterson, in front OF Bertelman
shop on King street, was called
Bertelmann, the other two walk
away; mould was shown Of she
Bertelmann asked witness to go vi
him to White ~ Ritman's on Que
street; witness explained to Rltn
how they were to be made; tn,
l. - . n ~.