The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-07-02
DEVINE WAS
ON THE STAND
Continued from Page u

"On general talk among the insur
ance men and other people. We hav'
talked over the matter"
Mr.. Devine-Was it not desirable Il
keep the blaze out of the Kentucky
liquor store in the Lipman fire?
Yes
Mr.. Powers-How has the lack o
harmony affected the fire department
1T is generally believed among the
insurance men that it is not up to it:
old standard Of efficiency
John T. Donnellan was put on tn,
stand to prove a conversatio between
Chief Devine and Mr.. Outcalt, bu
said he had not been present. He saiC
his relations with Mr.. Devine haC
been of the most pleasant nature.
The defense rested and the prosecu-
ton began.
Insurance Men Rebut.
Abraham H. Cannon said, as an in
surance man, the chief had extended
| every courtesy
Chief Devine-Nhat is the general
reputation of the chief?
Generally good
Are you connected with business
houses where his reputation is con-
sidered?'
Yes; and it is good
| Cross-eXamined: He heard in the
! Deseret News that Devine's reputation
was good. He had heard his brother
say that Devine's reputation was good.
He had heard many men speak of the
skill of the department.
Then you believe that the present
department is in first-class shape?"
Il believe it is under good manage
ment"
a. l.. Jacobs. Too.
A. L. Jacobs. an insurance agent,
was asked as to the chiefs reputation
Among the people generally, the
property-OWners and business men, it
is good"
Witness had been well treated at
the department.
Cross-examination He had heard
many insurance men speaking against
the chiefs reputation. Had heard it
discussed at several fires.
Devine on the Stand.
Chief Devine was then put on the
stand
On the charge of smoking around
headquarters, witness said the rule
did not apply to the chief or the chiefs
office. There are special rules apply
ing to the chief. Does not make a
habit of smoking on the apparatus
floor. When the Offense has been COM
mitted it has been when he was called
cigar with him
DO you remember ever having re-
fused or wilfully neglected to salute
any of the men,
NO, nor any other human being
Have some of the men refused to
salute your
Yes: the assistant chief, Mr.. Clark
and others
The Sears Check.
When he received the Sears check,
Mr.. Sears had said. Here is a check
in recognition of your services at my
store" He had asked what should be
done with ii, and Mr.. Sears said, You
know best. | suppose you have fund"
He said the matter would have to be
reported to the board. and Mr.. Sears
said, All right The fund stands in
the name of James Devine, chief en- /
gineer." Some moneys accrued about
a year ago. and on suggestion of the
board the fund was so started. The /
Sears check was deposited for the |
fund. He had not touched any of the
money. Had the check in his drawer /
for about ten days. Gave knowledge !
to newspapers the day he received it |
and reported it to the board at the /
next meeting.
The Lipman Fire.
AS to the Lipman fire, witness said /
the department responded promptly to
the alarm. When he arrived, smoke
was pouring out thickly. The plate
glass was breaking, and inside it was
a burning volcano The worst fire was
in an l.. Tive men went in the south
door and took in the chemical. He
made up his mind that the fire must
be kept out of the Kentucky liquor
store and the front of the drug store.
The store on the north was also
He sent hose to the north
through the gambling house, in the
front, at the south and on the roof.
The department succeeded in keeping
the fire within the limits it was in
when the department arrived. The
flame even crossed the Kentucky
liquor store ard burned some paper
in room OBJ the east of it.
The WaItner Fire.
When the department got to the
Waltner fire there was plenty of
smoke. but no one could tell where the
ire was. Several Intellectual attempts
had been made to find it, through
smoke that was so intense that man
could not live in it for fifteen seconds.
The doors were broken in and the
stream started. The chief must rely
very much on subordinates. The hose
vas laid out for fear the fire would
get into the Cullen. The fire had evil
lently been burning from almost the
line the people had left the store. Cen
,ral orders to the men about uAng
water are not TO turn too much on
Tres. Most Of the loss at the WaItner
ire was due to smoke and heat. Too
much water may have been used.
The only way to handle the Rich fire
vas to thoroughly drench the baled !
lay After the fire Mr.. Rich said he
bought the department did well and
rave check.
The Steamers.
The steamer at No. 2 is in same con-
Iition as when he took charge. The
teamer at No. l was put out of ser
ice because of the cutting down of !
nen and money for the department.
t is now in active service. Steam can
e gotten up in about ten minutes with
cold steamer. :
The double reel was taken from No. =
to No. l because of lack of horses
nd the better chance of storage in the
alter house.
Caine and Sears. ;
The examination was interrupted to s
ut on Joseph E. Game, who testified q
hat the chiefs reputation for eff
cheney is good and that he had al I
rays been treated well.
Characterization: He did not re-
lember with whom he had talked