New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-07-30
HORR-HARVEY DEBATE ENDS
THEIR FINAL ARGUMENTS
THE MEETING CROWDED AT THE CLOS
ING SESSION.

Gr,MENrs-rHE DISCUSSION HAS LASTED
NINE DAYS AND $4,000 WORDS
HAVE BEEN SPOKEN THE
FINAL SESSION A BAT
TIE OF STATISTICS.
Chicago, July 29.-The HorrHarvey silver de-
bate came to an end to-day Every seat In the
art gallery Of the Illinois Club was occupied when
time was called for the closing session OF the
great war Of words and the walls were lined
with listeners eager to catch the closing remarks
OF the contestants.
Twenty-four hours in all have been consumed in
the debate which ran through nine days, ana
145. 900 words in all were spoken. according to the
original agreement The two men Still have
2.5OO-word summary in which to close. This is to
be submitted in manuscript any time within seven
days. and is to be inserted in the book which Is to
be published.
During the entire debate Mr. Harvey read from
manuscript. The audience was on every occa-
sion composed mainly of free-silver men, and did
not seem to weary of Mr.. Harvey's reading out
cheered him at every opportunity.
Mr.. Harvey this afternoon denied that money
had been furnished 10 him by silver-mine own
ers to aid in the debate. and the tone in which
he said Il was not hired to talk here seemed
to indicate that he thought his opponent was
Resolutions were passed thanking the Illinois
Club for the of its house and expressing
appreciation Of all that had been done oy
various people to assist in the carrying on OF the
debate resolution also passed thanking
both Messrs Horr and Harvey for the informa-
ton which they have presented to the PUBIC
since the debate began.
THE DEBATE IN DETAIL.
Mr. Horrs opening statement to-day was a
follows:
(copyright 1885, BY Aset r. HdtehJ
Mr. Horny friend Harvey is peculiarly fortu-
ures given by him in this debate when anaIyzeI
or his assertion is found alone in incorrect stats.
tics statistic which apply 70 ne istrsse The
"nv detailed and correct figures which he has pre-
nsd Of ,o so1s N m sn an2 @
they show per capita decrease for man ana peas,
In sS the 1rees Latter OF year per This with
what Mr.. Harvey repeatedly has sara Is 70 ne th.
aw Of varying supply and demand. and thus proves
silver sssaon has en mot my
nres ane for agricultural produats MI Harvey said they
onnd were and the tables saIerbeck and
others al based upon ayerases M " Harvey knows
that no American tables constructed 6y averages
since 1874 been or can be present. 70 panles
IN the United states he goes to Europe for
his figures They doubtless are cVrisc' b any 1 more
% SSv do for the grain raised by the man In tho
defy 1m nreeI 20 prGauAs n America CONSTRUCTED BY
himself or anyone else that VIII snow u'~"e i'
! the whole country since ls'o
HARyEY's MISLEADING FIGURES.
He challenged my figures Saturday about mort
gage debt proved his table OF deot ihcorrec' "
! ,ha amount Of s25oO0O Here. brother Harvey -
the table. Extra Census Bulletin, No a. u,u
not present II the other day with great houi 's"'
as "a the wont OF some people In DEBATE Vi 'i'''
is tha
| his challenge But after challenging my "o,'saoe
| a,,ros wthn ten minutes thereafter friend mar
! 90, nrocesded to give some figures reiaths "
,onancv in the United States. He did not produco
any Government figures; ne dio reau ''
newspaper article by a nameiess "i'e'' 80
| i,ar comnared the farms worked by tenants ana
owners in 1850 with farm owners ana iai"' ,~ .s.a
&, ,seo The figures used for the two are dinereh'
as wheat and Such faulty Decades
tween dferen things farm an d'oSrs% owners TO ap,
rsa' near only one-haf what It actuany ,ansr,s 70
and make The the ncTsasS IN rrsa as it was Where
Your Government figures for farm ,enaS ASsract OF
Their PrOaHe'pSans pas e. 4Vf %hch i In
his last address sans to city S iseSnSy Se%Yk city
q any pase in brohsp 'Rif Ha
in the r wSra S1% tell %e 1% mo- now %hat meant?
Mr HarveyI didn't say !i that R1etin rea' you '
angaye OF ars ,e SO reported il you pub
MI Mr., nnorrertlv' didn't know what you meant oy
sTea'ffa We Harvey-I read You from the Census Bue
tin VIII send to my room fSs yery a one Now righ,
in Nh Ne very same paragraph which you are qeos qPern
the rsss ss@pSy Ss %nos M to TST
have the psoPs OF is s5f s per cent Inn in Be
tensney Y yer IN css You have prcqdse against
raa5ing the whole Of anything haven't you "a,
Mr. Haryey-'es Iay now VIZ read again from the Census
Hmlletn II reads: The highest sl,f H., no, ea {, ns,
amcy in New-York City is represented 0s '''' ps'
st. HorrIs SefS g or sS' close to your Berlin quo
AIR HorrNVery well, very we'll don't &c, tear'I, ~
about is CIaughter) In Berlin ris"' u'ue'' -
Mr. Harvey1Ten years more ana you VIII nave
1t. CApplauseD
ALWAYS SLANDERING AMERICA.
- vh., I object 10 is he is all the while
,,or,rs bv his comparisons TO show that this
=, ,ha reanest nation on the earth. Cries OF NO.
rom the audence) l beg your pardon. am as
capabe OF Judging that as you are Ai'er ne 'sa
mentioned that. why doesh ne x, sMI linz and show
a was mistaken? All. but this Is the IN tnhs oo
eeth h TO- cities: hat was the point was reply y
,ns ~ re point made by him In ms doom ,nat ic Civ
TENANCY was m entirely mir different thing. and showed
The peope oil this country tnat Ihe G ,Ssr casses
lena have been working for wages before xnno
WI" WIZ Harvey-Nr Horr. may interrupt 'o"
Mr. HOrrSetMtI"H HOorryeyMr Horr. didn't show you that hat
farm tenancy had increased from % per oe"' IL 'N'
10 "a in 1897 -. o,, d,dp., ouote IL correctly.
MIR Iiarvey-yes. did.
,,,r crsr OF THE WHOLE MATTER.
NJ uorr-The figures l gave took right from the
~ ,.,r In the debate, Mr.. Harvey, you stated
sp, tho number Of unemployed at present was from
80 80 four millions. The numbers astounded me.
o,,,a hardly believe my eyes when saw this
statement ! know Mr.. Wright Is pretty reliable
man and 1t didn't seem to me possible Una. ne cou.,
"
mors Lnew him we'll and so | thought we would
foWeln, ,, whether there anything true about
uEu hi IN nd what he had based