The sun., 1895-05-10

sation was or what sum Of money he had re-
Mr.. Root asked tho committee to make wit
Senator o'Connor said the committee believed
the matter himself.
with all due respect to the committee de-
Mr. Root demanded that the committee exer-
Senator o'Connor said all the committee
could DO was to report to the Senate.
.QuuMhere do You keep your bank account2
Cleveland Tas goe e,enicd any haven't had any since
, Witpsss ness, could not rscollect the last time he
looked after ali ss bnsnsRss SRsr m"tofs Ssess' Hs hs
could not cay how long he had been in the bust
ness. ness, and did not remember ever seeing firm
asked for. Ho iad about 10000 stock in tie Tie
II nsysT saw SiSIdenasu Tho ne newspapst spaesi
In which he held the majority OF the stock. Ho
in aa haye BANK account when he went into the
Of the Repaba in sw York city II. sht
the account was closed. Now no mostly did
business II cash His pay for legislative work
eashed over counters, and carried the money in
Q;-How, much money, do you carry in your
pocketr Amy that happen to have.
..N "MSt very definite answer" said Mr.. Root.
Mt Saya ss sIs the wS4 spy
only business he had been in for some years.
Q;nhay9% you you received "a as m, much as $4,000
o3mYo1 I'd, did in the ,I Erie Railroad casea A.
Q.-Havo you ever received moro than that 2
Thompson and from M Gould iE1m IN shc
Erie Railroad case. The last amount was paid
Mr.. Root read from the old Senate document
Mr. Jay Gould g testimony about the occ currence.
In 1t Mr.. Gould said he had been 'swindled"
into paying the $4,000 when he did not know
Payn had previously got $4,000.
Witness said he mover heard this testimony
the whois $4,000 himself; He thought his ser. ser.
| vices then were fully worth $4,000
vo AND yySs dT YOU refuse 70 tel who
advises me this Is not proper question, and that
ismy own view Of II.
bills affecting the interests or my employers are
good bills. | may advocate them, and II there
are any strikes against those interests may try
Witness said said he Vas Is very often at the Capitol
a He noSer Tssd
huence and d no o., money: Al the money ho got
he. he did mo not propose to, to diyuige It. He
how many people employed him. They are
get sir or eight annual salaries. work or play
| He said he did whatever he was asked Some
Ms and as he
here. He refused to say who sent him to any
aos he Esxs sSid away the business OF my en-
"YeH q, are safe man" remarked MI Root:
tics outside Of his own county.
county 'ne @ New Y Yoif or
elsewhere and am not reformer." Laughter.
What part do you take in politics ?" asked
wen. advised against strong's nomination
fa f.. one thaEn Was the ad
Qpige's nomination Tor copvreSs. ,Ie bad 90
said ie had scted As oonhdentiai political ade "a
by senator Raines at hs. request. He did not
ac * Rs TO
H. decided e. on It. sfr oonS
This closed the cross,examination.
Mr.. Payn then said that after the old investi.
gizsd and gave him check for $4,000 more
friead. and on several occasions helped him tc
make largo sums OF money. During the time
to @ be returned M ned to the senats Mr.: Could sdvised
him to buy Western Union certificates, and he
| made 800. 900 In q few weeks.
At1l:2 :25 o'clock Senator OConnor announced
| that tho hearing was closed.
Mr.. Root asked IL the committee would repor,
to the Senate Mr.. Payn's refusal to answer
| questions
Senator Pound said there was doubt as to this
| being a legislative contempt.
The committee discussed the matter at some
length. Senator O'Connor said that since Mr.
PaYn had opened up tho matter. the committee
had thonght he should answer the questions
What the legal aspect of the matter was he was
| not prepared to say
Mr.. Raines began summing up at 11:3s
| o'clock.
tee adjourned.