The herald., 1895-10-22
According to the Reports Re-
ceived to Date
BUT THE LIE WAS PASSED
Synod Delegates Act Much Like Other
Angry Men
But Business is Transacted, and Those Who
Do Not Like 1t May Go Off
and Sulk



SAN JOSE. Oct. 21.-The most excit-
ing discussion in the history of the Cali.
fornia Presbyterian synod took place this
morning whom the report of the standing
committee as TO the appointment OF a
commission to supervise the San Fran
cisco Theological seminary was received,
which, if adopted. would make the direc-
tors nonentities. DR.. Ellis of San Fran
cisco threw irehrand into the synod by
announcing that the report of the COM
mittee had been influenced by the direct
ors of the seminary. He had hardly con-
clded his statement when Rev. J. W.
Dinsmore jumped to his feet ano ex-
claimed, "Its liev
Dinsmore challenged Ellis TO name one
director who had attended the meetings
OF the committee or approached any
member in reference to their report on
the subject. Dinsmore is director and
the chairman of the executive committee
of the seminary, and mis- utterance rolled
out in laundering tones when replying
to Ellis, who, with several others, mem
bers of the synod. quickly arose and at
tempted to speak, but their words were
lost in the confusion of tongues, and
motion to adjourn was quickly adopted,
cutting off further debate till afternoon.
The commission on the trouble over
the First church of Los Angeles resumed
its session this morning, taking up the
complaint of Elder H. T. Gordon. The
elder appeared for himself and argued,
first, that a presbytery had no jurisdic.
ton over an elder second, that the act
of the presbytery in dissolving the cor
poratlon of the First church was uncon-
stitutional; the corporation had not been
dissolved, but had been destroyed third,
that an elder cannot be appointed, but
must be elected and installed, claiming
that some of the elders of First church
had peen appointed elders of Westmins-
ter church; fourth, that ecclesiastical
courts have no jurisdiction over civil
affairs, and therefore have no right to
dissolve a corporation and divide its
property.
His argument was very clear and APP
peared to impress the commission favora-
bly,. Rev. r. II. Hartley, for the presby
terry Of Los Angeles, responded, and
talked until the noon hour. when an ad-
journment was taken to the cali of the
moderator. This was for the purpose of
giving the commission an opportunity to
take part in the debate in the synod on
the report of the appointment of the COM
mittee to supervise the seminary.
News of the heated discussion had Just
before the noon recess of the synod spread
throughout the city. and on reassembl-
ing this afternoon an increased number
of spectators were present. The report on
the Frazer resolution regarding the ap-
poinment of a committee to supervise the
theological seminary at San Francisco
was first taken up, and from the talk
INDUCED in it was soon evident that the
recommendation was to be knocked out.
substitute was presented, which took
the sting out of the report and the sub
stitute was adopted. This is to the effect
that the directors do not have to report
to the convention, and in effect makes the
committee TO be named a mere fgurehead
for the seminary.
Then came the report of the standing
comm ittee ON the theological seminary
recomn ending, first, that the professors
for the seminary give their entire time
and attention to the duties of professor
ship. While the dicusslon was heated on
this clause it did not uulninate in such a
war Of word that characterized the close
OF the morning session. The clause was
adopted. The second clause was, that be-
cause of his exceptional opportunities
and disposition to serve the interests of
the seminary by and through his pas
toral relations, Rev. Robert Mackenzie be
exempted from the above rule. The dis
cussion was at fever heat point at differ
ent stages. David Arthur Crosby of San
Rafaei, John Hemphill of Oakland and
H. c. MInton vigorously opposed Its
adoption, the latter in his closing rem arKs
saying that if the motion to adopt the
second clause prevailed he would enjoy
the same privilege as accorded Mackenzie.
in defiance of the synod, even if the mat
ter lad to be taken to the highest court.
Mr.. Mackenzie gave an account of his
connection with the seminary and int,-
mated that II the second clause was not
adopted it would not take him two min
utes to decide the course he would pur-
sue, the mbers constituting this as
warning that he would resign his semin-
airy professorship, with salary of $1,000,
and retain his position as minister al
$4,000 a year. The discussion was lengthy
and roll call was necessary to determine
the result.
The second clause was adopted by q
vote of rs to %, subject to correction in
the morning.
According to the first clause adopted
Revs. Minton and Landon and Prof Day
will have to give their entire time tc
seminary duties or resign. The synod ad
journed until this evening. This even
ing commission hearing the Elder Cor
man complaint in regard to the Los An
geles First church trouble, held a session
hearing arguments pro and con.
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