The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1895-04-07

than for shorter distances for transpor-
tatiOn of passengers I'm order TO meet
the cut rate established IN passenger traf-
flc by the Seaboard Air Line. Leslie Ryan
appeared for the Southern Company, and
Leigh r. Watts for the Air Line ". 5.
Goodman represented the Richmond
Chamber OF Commerce and a number of
officials Of both railway companies were
in attendance.
MR.. Haas TESTIMONY.
Sol. Haas. assistant to the president of
the Southern Railway Company. was the
first witness examined by Mr.. Ryan. He
explained how the Seaboa1-d Air Line had
cut its rates, giving by way of illustra-
ton the following examples: The rate
under the old tariff between Richmond
and Atlanta, via Weldon. was Si5.50.
while under the new tariff IT is $50. I'm
der the new tariff rates between Rich
mond and Charlotte, Southern Pines,
Sanford, Raleigh, Henderson, Durham,
Warren Plains and Lttleton. all in North
Carolina, being less under the old tariff
than $780, are allowed 10 remain un-
changed. while the rates TO and from
Abbevillc Greenwood and Clinton, all I'm
South Carolina, being under the old
tariff more than $3.50. are reduced 10
exactly that sum.
Examined by Mr.. Watts Mr. Haas said
pany had not asked the pennsylvania
railroad not TO join the Air Line In dis
posing OF its tickets
II was common report that Air Line
tickets were sold through scalpers in
New York and elsewhere, but he had
no personal knowledge Of the matter.
Mr. Haas said that he could not say that
the cause of the Southern's petition was
that the Air Line had taken from 1t
the bulk Of the traffic between COM
petitlve points. He told Mr.. Watts that
he had understood that the Air lane
people had stated that they could afford
to carry passengers from New York TO
Portsmouth. Va, for fifty cents If 1t
would make the Southern lose dollar.
number of posters of the Air Line. one
heavily labelled Boycott" were shown
by Mr.. Watts. and Mr.. Haas said the
Southern Company never resorted to
such improper methods OF advertising.
He denied emphatically that any South
ern tickets had been sold, with its know
ledge, through scalpers.
w. A. Turk general passenger agent OF
the Southern, also denied that his road
had ever asked the Pennsylvania TO take
charge Of Air Line tickets. When he
concluded, Mr.. Ryan announced that the
Southern submitted its case. believing
It had proved it, allegations.
THE S. A. !. - GRIEVANCE.
r. ]. Anderson, general passenger agent
OF the S. A. L., testified that the Penn
sylvania road had Withdrawn Seaboard
tickets from sale. and IN self-defence the
Seaboard was obliged to purchase tickets
from the Pennsylvania in New York from
that point to Weldon, and then reduce the
sales from Weldon to Atlanta, selling
the Pennsylvania tickets and its own
ticket as one through ticket. The tickets
were purchased openly. regularly and
not through scalpors. Southern tickets.
he said, were for sale in Atlanta by
scalpers. These tickets were sold origi-
nally in Memphis for through trip to
Washington from that point and were
disposed Of I'm Atlanta by holders. The
purchaser OF a scalper's ticket had his
purchase honored by the Southern road
from Atlanta to Washington. Mr.. Ryan,
for the Southern. denied that this state
ment was fair; that Memphis tickets were
sold In Atlanta by scalpers, and not by
the Southern road The witness said
that General Passenger Agent Wood, Of
the Pennsylvania railroad refused to al
low tickets over the s. a. l.. from Wash
ington South to be sold in New York I'm
connection with Pennsylvania railroad
tickets. but such arrangement was in
effect with reference to Southern Railway
tickets from Washington. IL was this
determination that partly brought about
the cut rates established by the Seaboard
Air Line and Mr.. Watts interjected
that IL was the gist of the whole con-
troversy. The Louisville and Nashville
road. Mr.. Anderson said. had also de-
clined to enter into such arrangement
with the Seaboard on the ground that
IL would injure its friendly relations with
the Southern.
Mr.. ANDERSON PRODUCES TICKET.
Wher the committee reconvered after
recess Mr.. Anderson was crOss-examined
by Mr.. Ryan. Mr. Anderson produced a
ticket from New York to New Orleans
via the Pennsylvania railroad, Southern
and other roads, and claimed that as a
piece OF evidence II showed that South
ern railway tickets We're manipulated
through scalpers, and that the sale of the
Southern railway tickets really consti-
tuted a cut-rate from New York TO New
Orleans through the advantage given the
purchaser. although the rate was not re-
duced. This ticket said MIR. Anderson,
had been purchased by him yesterday
from a scalper in New York, who had
purchased ii from the Southern railway
Office there. Mr.. Anderson said he did
not know why Sea board tickets had been
withdrawn from sale In Pennsylvania
railroad Offices, but from long CORE
SpOnuencc with General passenger agent
Wood, OF the Pennsylvania. the only
reason he could discern was that he (the
witness) had not ansv cred Mr.. Woods
kilograms promptly. He declared that he
had recently taken trip 10 place Sea-
board tickets with scalpers In Memphis,
Montgomery, Birmingham. New Orleans
and Chattanooga, but Mr.. Newman, of
his road, had placed orders for tickets
with scalpers. Commissions were paid
these scalpers.
RIcHMosp's DESIRED SOLUTION.
r. III. Goodman, manager of the traffic
bureau OF the Richmond Chamber OF
Commerce. presented resolutions OF the
Chamber requesting that the application
OF the Southern Railway Company be re-
fused, and that the commission issue an
order to the Seaboard Air Line TO adjust
all its passenger rates on reasonable
basis. He explained that the Seaboard
had reduced the rate from Atlanta TO
Portsmouth, Va, from twenty-five cents
higher than to Richmond to sl.@ lower
than to Richmond.
Mr.. Haas was recalled and questioned
by Commissioner Morrison as to what
good il would do the Southern road N
n was allowed "a cut it's rates. He would
not nut himself on record as to what
rate the Southern would make n II were
allowed 10 cut. but II certainly would not
be lower than the present Seaboard rates.
In was necessary III self-defence for the
Southern 10 reduce rates TO keep the
Seaboarc from getting its business av ay.
n would be no use for the Southern 10
cut It's rates after 1t had lost its patron