The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-03-29


 not care anything about Herrmans
 trade and didn't believe Commissioner
 Clancy did either so that needn't make any difference. On our way up the street we met Officer Wiser and the | commissioner asked me who he was. After that he asked me who was on the beat days and told him didn't
 know. MT. C4ilhuly then said that the
 man who was on that beat days was bothering one of his friends or cus- toners. don't remember that he said
 the place was a saloon..'
 On cross examination the officer ad- mitted that practically the only time the accused had spoken to him in ref
 erence to the police work was when he called his attention to the character of the saloon at the corner of Church
 and Crown streets. The officer then
 related how subsequently he had raided
 the place and the proprietor being ac-
 quilted in the common pleas court; At
 torney Goodhart defending him. This
 sally caused considerable merriment
 among the aldermen, which caused At
 torney Goodhart to say: Thanks off,
 cer, for the advertisement"
 
 ing of my own knowledge of the charges against the accused commits sioner I have heard indirectly from Officer Toronto that he got hint from Commissioner Gilhuly not to interfere with the saloons. There were no oth- CTS present when the officer made that remark to me
 Officer William L, Williams-I know nothing of my own knowledge of the charges against the accused and have never heard of any instance where he is reputed to have interfered with an officer in the discharge of his duty.
 Officer Toronto was recalled and in reply to a question by Alderman Mac donald stated that he had not reported the conversation with the commissioner to the sergeant in charge of the office. In reply to a question by Attorney Good hart he stated that he did his whole duty as a member of the police force without fear or favor of any man.
 Sergeant Jonathan H. Orr said of his own Knowledge he knew nothing of the charges against the commissioner, but he had heard officers in the station talking about acts of the commission CTS which tended to discourage the offi- cers from doing their duty. These con versations occurred several times, but the witness said he could not give the details of the conversations or the names of the officers.
 Alderman Bromley-Officer, you don't care to tell all you know about this matter do you?
 m he Iu willing to do so if I knew anything of my own knowledge, whether it was against the commissioner or not.
 Alderman Bromley-Then you mean to tell us that you don't remember about 1t.
 Tn reply to a question from Alderman Reyes Sergeant Orr replied that he had heard that an officer was standing in front of a saloon and had been or dered off by commissioner, but did not think enough of the matter to take any special note of 1t. He said fur ther that while not certain, he thought the officer In question was John Doran, and that the saloon in question was in the territory of the Third police pre- clnct. As he understood it the officer was in front of a saloon and MT. Gil- huly came out of the saloon and told the officer to move on, or at least that was the report that he had heard There were also other officers and other instances of conversation. They happened six months or more ago.
 Officers John H. Gilligan, Thomas Powers, John H. Coonan, William M 1 Dnh 1 Ian, John Roche, Richard T. Moore, Adolph Klaiber, Patrick McGovern, John w. Grant Bart. Daily, Thomas H. 1 Colwell, Daniel M. Kiernan, Charles 0. | Bowers. Michael Lanigan, William H. | Tighe, Henry J. Donnelly, Thomas F. | Dopghan John J. Flynn, Torrance | Clancey, all testified that they knew | nothing against the commissioner, and | hat he had never interfered with them | n any manner.
 Sergeant Patrick Bergin testified that | ln officer came into the station some i've or six months ago and told him hat he was standing in front of sa- oon and that Commissioner Gilhuly | anne out and ordered him away. The ,fT1cer in question was John r. Doran, The witness further said that he did not ,now whether or not the act in ques- ion was an interference with the du- les of the officer As far as any direct of the truth of the charges vas concerned the witness knew noth- ng. He also testified that no commits toner had ever come to him on the treet in any such manner. In re- ly to a question from Alderman Reyes he witness stated that he had never card of the commissioner ordering an ficer away from any place other than
 saloon.
 Patrolman John J. Lonergah testified hat the morning the Coxey army went own on the boat Gilhuly went on to he boat and came back and asked yhere the officer was. | was about wenty feet behind him. I said, "here
 ann" He said, Your place is over ere; come over to it." I told him I new where my place was, and that if e had anything to say to me he could ut me before the board, but he didn't 0 so A few minutes later we met | gain and made up. All the people on 1 ne dock could hear us. At first he was pparently angry, but later everything as all right That was the only time ' e interfered with me- and I never l card of him interfering with anyone SC He did not discourage me from l q