Rock Island Argus. (Rock Island, Ill.) 1893-1920, 1895-07-19
THIRD DAYS TALK.
Horr and Harvey Discuss the
Demonstration Act.
MAS IT PASSED IN coNsPIaAcN


Corruption and Charges That the Bnl
Passed Was Mutilated Later.
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Mr.. Herr had the floor again at the be-
ginning Of the third days debate on the
silver question. and began the days talk
with Personal explanation. He said:
Previous to entering upon discussion OF
the law Of 1873 desire to state something
as to my personal relations in this debate.
because my opponent yesterday stated MT.
Horr has only taught in this debate prop
osition that is in the interest OF every
selfish moneylerder in the world to advo-
cate. and he is here advocating it, That
is a part and parcel Of the method usual
ly adopted by the advocate Of free silver
for the purpose of creating a prejudice
against every person who has honest con-
victions en- the ether side of this question.
say to my opponent now I am not .
money-lender, have not dollars interest
in any banking institution or American
corporation. CT any other corporations on
the face of tie earth. I have spent my en-
tire life in working for living; all the
early part of that life was spent in hard
work on n small farm; 1 commenced work
ing for myself at $40 month; there is
hardly any kind of hard manual labor in
which have not at some time in my life
engaged. consequently my sympathies are
with people who live by toll.
Il can meet dude on the street and
pass him by without any peculiar senss-
ticn. l never meet a man digging in a
trench but what l feel like taking off my
hat and saluting him, because / once dug
bitches fer a living. I can pass by rail-
road president. TIE superintendent of Pull
man cars, without any emotion but never
meet a brakeman or baggageman with
out feeling kindly toward him. because for
months was brakeman On freight train
night and day, and my promotion to bag
gagemastcr was one of the proudcst mo-
merits of my life. From my boyhocd up
] have lived. CT tried to, on what earned.
and consequently l come into this debate
for the purpose of defending the interests,
as my friend will learn before l finish it,
of the men who live by honest toll. l adj
NIT that at present l am employed by
large newspaper corporation OF the United
States; II it Will do him any good VIII
admit that they pay me every day for my
work more than l used to get for two
months hard labor. Am l to blame for
that? My policy has always been: Take
any job you can get SO as to get an honest
one whenever the chance is offered you
Is that wrong? l have another motto. too,
that whenever I am laboring for person or
corporation I am a good deal more anxious
to earn all or more than l get than I am to
be worrying round about crowdins up my
wages. My experience has been that IL l
do good work they will recognize my mer-
its and Fay me for 1t, and that is all l
have any right to ask for in this world"
Proceeding ard concluding Ho-r said he
had no prejudices against men who had
been more fortunate than he: a man did
not necessarily become a scoundrel because
he saved part of his earnings: he did not
think II anything against a man even IL he
became q stakeholder in a national bank.
A suggestion that Harvey's father was
such a stakeholder brought from Harvey
an emphatic denial, with the admission
that it would not have hurt him If he had
been. Horr closed by saying that those
who accumulate money and build up great
Industries are a blessing to the country,
and he was just as jealous to prevent finan-
cial disaster to those as to see that wages
are not cut in two by a debased dollar.
Harvey in reply said his remarks Of the
day before quoted by Horr had no personal
application at all. a man could advocate
a pernicious principle without himself be-
ing necessarily a bad man. Said Harvey,
continuing: This great question is not
going to be decided for the American peo-
pie by any advocate parading himself be-
fore them as having been horny listed
working man at one time In his life. / do
not object to Mr.. Horr giving the evolution
of his life. / do think it was n little I'M
fair to have omitted that in that evolu-
ton he finally became bank president;
that statement should have gone with the
balance in the play to popular favor / do
not deny that Mr.. Horr and numerous self
ish bank presidents have at one time been
tillers of the soil.
Mr.. Herr and numerous employees Of
newspaper corporations and other corpora
tons are in part many of them, represent
ing their honest convictions, and l accord
that to the honorable gentleman from New
York. Many OF them never stop to ana
lyze the question, the great principle that
must make or unmake the republic in
which they live. 1t is only a question OF
salary that they consider Harvey then
said the value Of the debate OF the day
previous was that it had demonstrated the
statement that there were only $4,000. 900
in silver coined up TO 1873 to be false. and
that the real quantity was s1i3. 900. 900.
Horr. replying to Harvey's criticism that
he had not included having been a bank
president, said 1t was not omitted because
he was ashamed Of 1t. He had been bank
president; the bank had gone down in the
crash Of 1873. ard his competency went
with 1t. After few more words regard
ing his present history he took up the de-
monetization act of 1873. saying: That
bill first originated a little before the year
1870. 1t was drafted after consulting a
large number Of experts. In the first day
Of our discussion Brother Harvey went
back on his baby theory. and told us that
babes did not mean babes at ALL that il
meant pure and undefiled people. but now
he returns to his old motto and claims that
money really is SO simple a thing that
babes can understand it, or that people
who have not studied it can learn all about
It; and he is facetious because I have
stated that the question has given me the
headache. / did state that. But mark you.
Brother Harvey. II was the study of the
question tina; made my head ache net writ
ing such stuff as is in this book. That
would not give any man the headache.
Now. this bill was prepared after sub