St. Paul daily globe., 1895-09-16
CHAUNCEY Nj. DEPEW TALKS TO
BRITKSHERS WHILE IN LON
DON.
BELIEVED IN HOME RULE.
CLAIMED AMERICANS WE'RE
UNANIMOUSLY IN SYMPATHY
WITH IRELAND.
ENGLIsHMEN LOVE A LORD
Upper House of ParIia-
ment.

NEW YORK, Sept. 15.-Chauncey
M. Depew, who arrived at Quaran-
tine last night, landed from the
steamer City of Paris this morning.
Afterward he received reporters at
his office in the Grand Central depot
and gave an extended interview
upon the politics of Europe, upon his
trip and a miracle which he wit
messed at LourdeS. Mr.. Depew said
that something of a sensation was
| stirred among the Anglo-maniacS
by an interview which he gave to
London papers. One of the ques-
tions was: What is the American
| idea of home rule, and how generally
are Americans of one mind on that
subject?" Speaking to this, Mr.. De-
pew said:
My answer was substantially that
home rule is the cornerstone of our
institutions, and our people are prac-
tically unanimous on the subject;
that there never had been any di-
vision among US as to home rule for
Ireland, and we could not under
of the adoption of the policy lead
ing to the disruption of the British
empire. On the contrary, we
thought the adoption of the fed
erative principle would benefit Eng
land, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and
the colonies; that we were heartily in
favor of English-speaking people
LEADING THE WORLD,
and willing that the British empire
should have the first place in the
affairs of Europe, Asia, Africa and
Australia, but that we would neither
consent nor permit the control or
occupation by an European power Of
the republics of America.
"Of the 900 members of the house
of lords, all but 25 are Conservatives
ingly the same.
81 never had a Radical as a guest
in my house. said proud peer to
me. While his rule is not general
the feeling is.
American residents in England
become attached to the dominant
power, and many of them are more
extreme than its leaders. Their de-
nunciations of home rule and views
on the Irish are refreshing revela-
tions Of the influence of environment.
They wrote letters to the papers,
vigorously denying my statements.
According to them, I was either
grossly ignorant of American senti-
ment or a phenomenal liar. They
said that, beyond the politicians and
political papers controlled by fear
| of the Irish vote, all there is in our
country which represents its intel
ligence, its learning, its business and
| it's society, is opposed to home rule
| and in cordial sympathy with the
ideas and principles of the Tory
party. Moreover, they told me per-
sonally that 1 would be ostracised
for such talk. Then from the West
minister Gazette came it's represent
ative with a stenographer and a re-
quest for an interview. 1t filled
three columns Of the paper, and was
| the largest contribution of the kind
After reiterating the statement be-
fore given, I enforced it by stating
that the daily and weekly press Of
the United States, without any ex-
ception so far as I knew, had ed
itorially
SUPPORTED GLADSTONE
and his measure, that many of the
state legislatures had unanimously
passed resolutions favoring it and that
| the house of representatives, by an
| unanimous vote had received Mr.. Par
| nell. Now, our English kinSman loves
| fra.nkness and fair play. He is an in
| tense partisan and a born fighter, but
| has too good an opinion of himself to
| like an imitation of himself from any
| other country. He doesn't care for
| Anglo-Americans, or Anglo-Germans.
| or Anglo-Frenchmen or Anglo-Ital-
| ians. He likeA genuine representa-
| tives of any people and is, most hos
| pita-ble to them in his home and fam
| lily. Certainly, 1 did not experience
any of the dreadful consequences pre-
dicted for telling the truth.
| "a Conservative leader said to me:
We have won great and rather en-
barrassing victory without making a
| pledge or promise. We had no plat
| form and no affirmative principles.
| We simply assailed the incompetency
| of the Liberal government But while
| the Conservatives are safely in power
| for six years, the Liberal Unionist is
| already making matters uncomfort-
able for his Tory partner. A large pro-
| gramme for local self-government
| throughout the United Kingdom, fol
| a broad scheme of state socialism or
| paternalfsm and plans more or less
| vague for the benefit of what they
| call the laboring classes are maturing
in the restless brains of Mr.. Chamber
| lain and his friends and disturbing
the rest land comfort of the true Con-
servatives. Our recent trouble with
the British foreign Office over Mica
! ragua and Venezuela increasing in
/ terest in foreign relations and the pos
| sibility of an administration which will
enforce the Monroe doctrine, have Gre
| ated a new and unusual interest in the
| affairs of the United States. This is
evidenced in the Times appointing Mr..
| Smalley it's special correspondent in
| the United States, and printing several
| columns a week of his cables. The
statesmen of both parties would like
| a sort of an
OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE
| alliance with us. They want our help
| in China and Japan and in the diff
| ficulties arising out of Russian, Ger
man and French hostility and ag-
| gressions in the East and would gladly
| bundle all American matters into our
| hands in exchange for such an under
| standing.
| "The strength of the Tories is in the
| cities. They have no prohibition or
temperance reform fads or faddists,
| and the powerful liquor and beer in
terests are solidly with them. The
London districts which return men,
bers Of parliament have five times
more population and voters than the
| Irish districts, and the one uppermost
| idea with every Conservative you
meet Is to minimize the Irish power