New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-04-27

was? Al did not really know what lobbyist was
until then. o. :. raso Al
could make a guess but had no definite knowi-
edge rro,., cood guess 7 sup
pose? Al don't know but did not Kho" io'
certain.
DID NOT KNOW PAYN WAS a LOBBYIST.
Q.-Mr. Burns. you testify under oath that you
never heard OF Mr. Payn as being lobbyist al
Albany before you wen; to him about this matter?
Al testify under oath that l had known ME-
Pawn as a politician but not DIS lobbyist This
IS the first time have been Informed of the cor
rect meaning Of a Lobbyist :, - no novq
Al understand that certain papers have SAID
Mr.. Payn was lobbyist perhaps he was but per-
a9We You say this is the first tine You M 3Pgg
known the meaning OF the Term GDo ynsn who ms is
there for what there is in 1t. Iaughter( =
lobbyist-a man who is there for what there Is
you never 5s }bera w sqPP9f S that MI
would understand he was not. from the dealings
mo- o~ ~at that time you had heard of the word
pose? Al understood that a lobbyist was poll
cian that could reach GOOD way; aHg nniI
that could reach good ways? Al thought
Mr. Payn politician, and for that reason
/ went to him.
Shortly before the committee took recess for
luncheon Mr. Quigg recalled to the witness
chair for further cross-examnation by George
Ranes and was asked about his work as the Ed
itor Of 1.-The Flushing Times" ten years ago. lie
said he was accused Of publishing six libels While
editor OF the newspaper. For an article attack
Ing Downing formerly the Distrct-Atorney or
Queens County, Mr.. Quigg said he had been in
dicted and compelled to pay fine of 500 tie
wanted TO make an explanation OF the circum-
stances Of the case then, but Mr.. Raines shut him
off until after recess.
MR. QUIGG CROSS EXAMINED.
After recess Mr. Raines questioned Mr. Quigg
closeIv about his interest in the Judicial Sales
bill Mr. Qugg said he had taken an interest in
the bill for three reasons First because he thought
the judicial sales of real estate ought 10 be con-
Quoted at the Real Estate Exchange. where the
interests Of owners Of property would be better
protected: second. because men who were inter-
ested in the Real Estate Exchange were his per-
sonal friends and lived in his Congress District.
and third because he thought 1t was good poll
tics to take the judicial sales away from the con-
troll of Richard Croker and his partner. He said
that none OF the men interested in the Real Es-
tate Exchange had made contributions Of money
to his campaign so far as he knew.
o-Were any checks handed to you personally
last fall? Al remember that two checks We're
handed to me- one was HANDED 10 NE py MI lIa'''
and IL came from friend of his
O-Were those checks for large amounts? A
One was for $50 and the other was for 500. think
Mr. Quigg explained that Mr.. Einstein. the
nresent PROPRIETOR of The Press" had assumed
the work Of collecting money for the campaign.
Most of the money which was contributed in aid
of Mr. Ouigg's election TO Congress was received
by Mr.. Einsten.
Odd you solicit Mr. Payn's support for the
Judicial Sales bill? Al talked with him about the
hill AT Albany.
20 What did Mr.. Payn say? Ale said that
since the Ffremens bill had been fixed 10 my salts
faction he hoped l would withdraw my support
tror The judicial Sales bill | said l would GER
tainiv do nothing of the kind
MR. QUIGG MAKES A DENIAL.
Odd YOU say that gentlemen interested IN the
Judicial Sales bill had contributed $500 TO your po-
ltical fund? Al did not
O-Do you strongly say that? Al do. l never
said so to anybody.
Mr.. Quigg proceeded to explain that his ac-
ousintance with the gentlemen interested in the
Judicial Sales bill began only at the end of his
campaign Answering a question by Mr. Raines.
he said that, although he had heard OF Mr..
cru,er he was not personally acquainted with