The record-union., 1895-07-31
But Little Doubt That He Will be
Convicted of Seven Crimes.
THAT IS THE PRESENT OPINION OF
CHICAGO POLICE.

Arkansas, Who Can Give Testi.
mony That VIII Leave No Room
for Doubt of Holiness Guilt.
CHICAGO, July 30.-There is now little
doubt that the Chicago police will convict
! II. II. Holmes, alias Mudgett, alias Pratt,
alias Gordon. now in the Philadelphia
Jail. of the murder of at least seven per-
sons. They know the name Of a man
who can convict Holmes by giving his
testimony, and that man is in their
| power. His name is Hatch, alias Bond,
| alias Mascot, and he is now serving 6
! sentence of ten years in the penitentiary
at Little Rock, Ark, for hOrse-stealing.
! He is as close to Holmes through all biz
! murder plots as janitor Quinlan. and is
ready to tell all he knows. This includes
the pointing out of the resting place OF
! the bodies of the Williams sisters, whom
| ne had assisted in secreting after they
were murdered, and exactly how all their
! bodies were handled. lie will also give
! lull and explicit Information concerning
! the murder of PietZel and his TWO chill
| dren, and OF Mrs. Julia COnners and her
! daughter.
! Ia short, this man is the only other liv-
/ ing person, aside from Quinlau, who can
| tell The story of the murders in the char
| nei-house at SiXty-third and Wallace
streets. Aside from Quinlan, he is the
| only man who can tell of Holmes crimes
! In way that will bring forth evidence Oi
! Holmes gullt. The mention OF his name
! by the police to-day made Quinlan turn
pale and refuse to talk further, and a
confession from Quinlan Is almost as
sured, but Will come too late, as Hatch is
TO be The States witness.
It has been arranged TO request his par
don from the Governor of Arkansas ii lie
will give his testimony, with the under
standing that he will not be prosecuted
in Illinois for completely in Holmes'
frauds aud crimes.
1t is suspected that Attorney William
Capps OF Fort Worth gave the police OF
Chicago some valuable Information con-
cerEing Hatch. In fact, 1t ia definitely
understood that Hatch was discovered in
the Little Rock penitentiary by Attorney
CappS, who is IN Chicago Tor the purpose
of proving up the fraudulent transactions
OF Holmes with regard to the property OF
the Williams girls. He declared to-day
that the Williams girls were both dead,
aud that be could otter sufficient proof to
civil court to secure setting aside of
name of PietZel as ID. B. Lyman, SO
heirs of the girls could secure the prop
erty. But he refused absolutely to say
what his evidRnce of the murder was.
1t is known that Mayor Swift, States
Attorney Kern and Chief of Police
Badenock have conferred to-day for the
purpose OF agreeing upon a policy to be
adopted with reference TO the man in the
Little Rock penitentiary, and the police
said that an effort would be made to Sc
cure his release and the guaran tee of I'M
mUnity from punishment in Illinois if be
would do as he agrees TO do. by giving
Information that will convict Holmes.
lie has assured the Little Rock officials
that he knows the Williams girls were
murdered by Holmes; that he knows
where their bodies are concealed, and that
he can show that Pietzel and his two chill
dren, as well as Mrs. Conner and her
daughter, were killed by Holmes. He
says he knows where their bodies are To-
Gated. and when police official was asked
tonight: Don't you think il Is q scheme
of Hatch's to gel out fthe penitentiary?"
the answer was: "No l don't. he has too
many things to De forgiven for. 1t is sim
ply question who should weaken first.
Ii QuInlan had told his story first, we
would not have needed Hatch's testI-
inony. Ii is true Hatch, or Allen, has the
motive OF escaping bis ten-year term in
the Arkansas prison, but then we think
Quinlan really wishes he was in the peni-
tentiary somewhere. so he could take his
neck out OF the halter. The evidence we
can secure through Hatch will hang
Holmes, Quinlan, and maybe another
person. l think Philadelphia and To-
rCnto will be glad to give us the case,
when they discover what we can do with
Holmes aud his c0niederates."
The police are in full possession of in
e., ian bnt inn hot tIof al
Allen, had been longer and better ac-
quainted With holmes than Quinlan. He
placed his liberty in jeopardy for Holmes
in 1898, when he accom- panied Holmes to
Fort Worth in the transaction whereby
the property OF the Williams girls passed
into the hands of Pietzel. He is the no.
torious Hatch whom Holmes has been
talking about as having taken the PietZel
children away from Chicago, and Holmes
has always said he could not tell where
Hatch was; that Hatch had disappeared
and that he (Holmes) had lost track Of
him entirely. Undoubtedly Holmes
knew all along that Hatch was in the
Arkansas Penitentiary, but, as Hatch
could be made a witness against him,
Holmes did not care TO tell where Hatch
was and permit the officers to go after
him.
When seen after his conference with
the police to-day, Capps, the lawyer,
said: "All | want TO prove in the inter-
est of my clients is that the Williams Sis
ters are dead, so far as their property is
concerned. l will say further that l be-
lieve your Chicago police are deeper in
this case than is generally believed |
think they will bring out all the facts.
and prove that Holmes is a murderer.
Chief Badenoch and Inspector Fitzpa.-
rick are shrewd police officials. and they
are not telling the reporters all they
know"
HATCH IN AN ARKANSAS PRISON.
LITTLE Rock (Ark.), July 30.-ouDer-
intendent Mcconnell of the State Peni-
tentiary received a letter from Sheriff
Rea of Fort W orth, Tex, to-day, stating
that he now had good reasons for believ-
ing that John Allen, alias Cald well, the
convict confined in the penitentiary for
horse-stealing, was no less person than
II atch. the much wanted man In the
Holmes case. superintendent Mcdonnell
Immediately went to the cell where Allen
is confined and commenced questioning
him. The Superintendent noticed that
Aliens iace flushed as soon as he men,
tioued the namo of Hatch. The convict
declined 10 answer questions saying he
would talk when the Governor granted
him pardon. not before. Governor
Clark was notified of what occurred at
the penitentiarv, and Al once recalled to
mind that Allen, alias Caldwell, the iden-
tical man now confined in the peniten
tiary, had recently been indicted by the
Grand Jury OF Lee County for horse
stealing.
MARYLAND POLITICS.
Senator German Keeping the Demo-
Gratis in suspense.
BALTIMORE MIDI, July Ex-senator
German is keeping every body in sus-