The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-03
ROBERTS ENDS
THE DEBATE.

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matters to the convention that they
may understand that however much
other members may have considered
themselves bound b. the action OF
conventions in the counties from which
they hail, conscientiously 1 have no
bonds upon me to act in the interest
Of this proposition. There are no OBJ
stacles in my way on that subject, and
again l repeat what / before said, II
there were, if l considered myself
bound by the platform of my party,
and by the wishes of my c. ituents,
in the state of facts that have
since developed. which as l
believe are menace to the
attainments Of statehood. 1 would
still, sir, endeavor to serve my people
in spite of their protests, and work for
their best interests, which, as l Jock
upon it, lies in the attainment of stale
hood for Utah.
Touching the Peaks.
With so much of preliminary. I may
now come to the consideration of re-
marks by members upon the subject
proper. OF course sir, if you look at a
range of mountains, there are here and
there lofty peaks that rise above their
fellows, and upon those peaks the eye
naturally rests. SO III this discussion,
rising above the common level, there
are a. few gentlemen who have spoken,
70 whom l shall consider 1T my duty
to pay particular attention 1 refer to
this matter so that if I do not men
ton each one who has entered the
arena against me, he will not feel
Sighted Qaugnter). and, perhaps, II l
discuss some of the remarks made by
those more prominent speakers upon
the subject, I shall be able to satisfy
You all.
AbsOlved by Evans.
Among these particular ones 70
whom I ought to pay attention is my
personal friend, a gentleman for whom
have the highest regard. from
Weber county CEVans), man, 1 take
It. who thought he answered my argu-
mentS by telling me I was mistaken
and that my fears were illfounded.
Apart from making those statements
with more or less Of flourish and elO-
quence, the gentleman concluded by
saying that if he was cOnscientiOusly
opposed to woman suffrage, no party
platform would stand in his way n
opposing it: if he believed that if sEf-
frage would degrade woman, no party
platform would prevent him from OPP
posing ii. So 1 take ii that in the
opinion of that gentleman since 1 am
OF the opinion that it would be in
furious to the state and degrading TO
woman, I am absolved.
EN- ans NeeGS Has mOIner.
one thing the gentleman asked in his
feq.ved rhetoric, and that was, he
would like to know what harm could
possibly come from his mother accom-
panying him TO the polls. Well, sir, as
I an of the opinion that his mother
must be a most eStimable lady, [ think
no real harm could come from her ac-
= cOmp3nying him IL the polls, and I am
TSather inclined to think it would be u
y good thing for her to do Qaughter},
and not only accompany the gentle
man to the polls but ! doubt not II
would be a most excellent thing for
him if she was constantly present with
him to guide his footsteps through the
nleandering pathway of life Naugh-
ter and applause.
His Respects to Wells.
Another of these mountain peaks in
this debate to which l ought to refer.
was a gentleman (Wells) who spoke
to US yesterday. out of his place, as he
himself put it, but nevertheless 'in the
ring That gentleman after detair-
ing the convention for a considera bic
length of time in a. set speech, which
both amused and instructed members, I
conscious I doubt not that there was
not much force in it, finally told the
convention that he had an aunt, who,
IF she could have the privilege OF the
floor and the freedom of debate, would
be able TO make such speech on this
subject that the committee Of the
whole would Immediately take to
flight and pull the hole in after them.
Could Strike Hands.
Now. sir. I doubt not that that
possibly would be the result, that we
all would be converted if the lady in
stead Of the gentleman had had the
privilege of the floor and the freedom
of debate; but there was one thing that
appeaTad very curious to me. and that
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effectually converted her worthy
nephew to her views, for, as I reRem- /
Der the whole tenor of his discussion, I
h believes in woman suffrage in a /
very attenuated form. Why sir, I
could almost strike hands with him /
and vote as far as he is willing TO vote
outrage for woman.
As to Queen Vic.
And then, sir, the ,ntleman won
dered in his soul how il was that any
body who had lived under the gentle .
sway of Victoria, queen of England, (
should object to woman voting in this .
country. 1 think. sir. that the gentle
man overlooked what are well known .
TO be the facts Of history, and what /
he knows to be the facts of history, (
If he would but take a second thought (
of It Queen Victoria. however worthy z
the lady may be, is not, nor has any
king or queen of England for three
hundred years. been the ruler OF that
country
I presume we have all seen a figure
head upon the prov of a vessel, but
not one of US has ever been deceived .
into thinking it was some force IN that
1igurehead that drew the mighty yes
sci through the stormy waters of the
Atlantic If you would krow what
force propels the mighty steamer
against the ocean currents and head
winds. you must needs look to tie rear.
where plays the throbbing wheel, and
where the helm guides the vessel
through the waters. And so If you
would know who the real governors Of
England are. YOU must look to parlia-
ment and the prime ministers of the
country.
The Real Rulers.
Gladstone, Disraeli, Lord Derby and
others. are the men who have governed
Tngland and not the queen not the
king For more than three hundred
years there has not sat upon the
throne Of England king or queen who
has dared 20 oppose the will of the
people as expressed through parlia-
1nent. What do crowns and coronetS
amount to when they are reduced to
this extremity? They have become
nothing but figureheads. an insignia
that in ancient times was the emblem
of power. And I wish to say that to-
day the thing that enshrines Victoria,
queen of England, most in the hearts