The representative. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1893-1901, 1895-08-21

national character. This policy will draw
away from the ranks ofithe wage-earner,
give them happy homes and leave the
supply of wage-earners less than the de-
mand, and this will raise the price Of
wage-earners' wages. The man who now
has work or g. situation and selfshly
reasons that he benefits himself by main
tanning a dear dollar is neither broad nor
humane. He is assisting in wrecking his
country, and it may be too late to rem
edy the error when he, too, Is without
employment. (Applause) He should
also think of opportunities for his chill
dren after he is gone. Now, are we not
creased? I want to give you something
to think about that may indicate that.
"A few days ago there appeared in the
Chicago Tribune an editorial in which
appeared these words: 'The Pullman
Palace Car company is reported to have
advanced the wages Of the employees In
it's great shops near this city 10 per cent.
The increase affects about 1000 men. and
was conceded by the company without
demand by the toilers or public announce
ment of the fact that it would be made
ION the same night the Associated
Press sent a telegram from here, which
was published in the newspapers of the
United States. I now read from the San
Diego Daily Vidette, where that telegram
appeared: Chicago, July 1.-THE Pull
man Palace Car company has advanced
the wages of employees at the Pullman
shops 10 per cent, the advance affecting
about 1000 people. No formal announce
ments have been made by the company
of its action, as the advance has been
gradually taking effect in various de-
partments during the last two weeks
Nov, what are the facts? In the same
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lished that editorial appeared a news
article showing that in fact no advance
in wages was made at Pullman, and that
Mr.. Pullman himself admitted that there
was no advance made, that what they
meant was that they had given the men
that were at work about 10 per cent more
work to do. They had previously been
working only half time. (Applause.)
Mr. Horr-I have already called the at
tention Of the country to the fact that the
little boy Coin is absolutely without
knowledge Of mathematics or correct in
formation concerning wealth. property or
money. In his book the boy says, and
Mr.. Harvey in hts debate repeats the as,
sert1on, that foreigners own real estate,
personal property, bonds, stock and mort
cages in the United States to the amount
of $4,000, 100000. I now state that there
is no shadow of authority for such a
statement as to the short-time debts
statment and when Mr.. Harvey reads
he doesn't get out of his trouble be-
cause the debts I referred to were those
that accumulate every day, and every
man who does an hours work when the
hour is completed has a credit for the
amount of that work, and that work
every week amounts to such a fabulous
sum that you will be astounded when
come to that part of my talk
Mr.. Harvey-Do you say that I said
that foreigners owned $4,000. 600, 900
worth Of property in this country?
Mr.. Horr-That is what you did say
here.
Mr.. Harvey don't know where said
Mr.. Horr-You said that England
owned S., 900. 900 and the rest of Europe
as much more.
Mr.. Harvey-I did not say that I said
at least $4,000, 000, 900 of debt are due in
this country to people living in Europe.
Mr. Horr-No, sir; you said 5000 OO0,>
600 in bonds to England alone, and here
you give your table to show it in the
second book, "Coin Up to Date"
Mr.. Harvey-I am not discussing up
to Date"
Mr.. Horr-Well, am. I am duscussine
the table that he published to the world
to prove that his estimates are correct.
and that table is here. He is trying to
prove that the people Of the United States
on time debts owe $4,000, 600, 0oO You
CldlIu IL now, OOu you.
Mr.. Harvey-That we owe in all kinds
Of debts $4,000, 900, 900. Yes, that is cor
rect. But not to Europe.
AT ISSUE AS TO FACTS.
Mr.. Harvey-If you have compared my
figures with the proper official report
from Washington you know they are
right,
Mr.. Horr-I have compared them with
the official bulletin and know they are
wrong it is published in the book, the
whole thing. The mistake he makes in
that item is equal to all the property of
every kind and description in the state
of Iowa. After his mortgage figures
Coin gives what purports to be a state
ment on the authority of the United
States statistical abstract Of the loans
of national, savings and state banks and
loan and trust companies. His figures
agree with none that I can find in any
volume Of the abstract. They are larger
than those that the authorities stated in
1890 and 1894. But the difference between
Mr.. Coins figures and those found in the
official document is small and I drop
that part Of it.
MORE ABOUT THE DEBTS.
"Now, proceeding with the debt bust
ness. You made a large error in your
statement as to the loans Of the bank
an error of about $1,000, 900, 900 different
from the official statement of these very
debts-a small matter, you know, that
is, when he is proving something against
his own country; he talks of thousands of
millions Of dollars as glibly as an ordi-
nary person talks of nickels, you know.
(Applause.) 1t is owing to that immense
financial breadth of his. daughter)
You cannot account for it in any other
way
Nov that represents the lonas of saw
ings banks secured by mortgages-now
listen-and previously included in the ex-
hibit of private martgage debts. You un>
derstand, he has first given the indebted
ness of the mortgages, then he has add
ed to the amount the Indebtedness to the
savings banks, which includes large
part of these very mortgage debts, so he
adds them up twice and that swells the
number. Why didn't YOU add them again?
You could have got as much again that
way. daughter.)
Mr. Harvey-Mr. Horn, this is a serious
matter. Will you produce that table OF
yours and let me compare it with my
table? This is no funny business.
Mr. Horr-This is no funny business. I
have something that will worry you
Mr. Harvey-Mr. Horn, will you pro-
duce the table here?"
Mr.. Horr-It is not a table. 1t state
ment of amounts
Mr.. Harvey-Will you give the official
document?
MIR. Horr-If you will look it up and see
if am wrong l will own it. Gaughter)
know am not.
Then in up to Date is small item
of $4,000, 900, 900 which Coin says, without