The record-union., 1895-07-19


Have Been Established With the
Men the Feeling is Growing That
Some We're Killed.
CHICAGO, July 19.-To-day's Harvey
Horr debate was marked by considerable
acrimony on the part OF both. In the
beginning Mr.. Horr said he had a per-
sonel explanation to make. He quoted
the following paragraph from his OPP
ponent's argument of yesterday. "These
principles are TOR the selfish interests OF
money lenders and Mr.. Horr is here ad
vocating them." Mr.. Horr said he took
them as reflection on his character. and
continued: 81 am not money lender.
l have no interest in any bank or other
institution OF like character. l was
raised on a farm, and my first work was
done for $40 month. l come into this
debate to advocate those principles which
will be for the best interests Of the work
ing classes from which | come"
Mr. Harvey explained that when he
said Mr.. Horr advocated the principles
of money lenders he did not mean to say
that Mr.. Horr himself was a money
lender. He tn ought, however, in giving
the history of his life, MIR. Horr should
not have omitted to state that he had at
one time been bank President. This
question will not be settled by any man
parading himself as horny-handed son
OF toll" called the free silver advocate;
sit lies deeper than that"
DIR. Harvey then plunged knee-deep
into q discussion of the Act OF 1873, which
demonetized silver. He said MIR. Horr
and numerous employees of newspaper
corporations and other corporate institu-
tions are in part, many OF them, repre-
senting their honest convictions, and |
accord that to the honorable gentleman
from New York. Many of them never
stop to analyze the principle that must
make or unmake the republic in which
they live. 1t is only question Of salary
which they consider. You say that
man should better himself. and if bot
ter salary is offered him, take it. Not tor
all the combined salaries in the world
would | accept a position where | would
have to advocate principle that [
thought would destroy the liberties OF
my countrymen. There is something in
this life greater than money. When we
again get the American people to believe
this we shall have true liberty in this
land, and we can make a living without
being deprived Of it by an aggregation OF
selfish interests. studied misrepre-
sentation has gone before the people of
the United States that there was only
IS, 600, 600 of silver coined by the United
States Government prior to 1913. Now,
meeting face to face with representative
of the other side of the question. this de-
bate now carries 10 the people of the
United States The admitted tact that
thers was Sl43, 200, 900 of silver coined
prior TO 1873"
Mr.. Horr took up the question of the
origin of the law OF 1873. He said it was
drafted after consulting a large number
of experts who were apt to know little
more about the monetary question than
those who had never studied it at all. He
denied that the bill had its origin in Eng
land or anywhere except in the brains of
the people who were looking after the
coinage interests of the United States.
He defied mir. Harvey to prove one single
item that had any reference to the British
controlling or debating the matter. He
continued:
every step taken IN the inoipiency of
this bill was as open as the light. Thou
sands of copies of the bill were sent
broadcast to all parts OF the country. No
one tried TO cover up the fact that the bill
as originally drafted by Mr.. Knox and
indorsed by Secretary Boutwell, of the
Treasury, changed the unit of value. All
the letter of the experts and the report OF
Mr.. Knox were printed by the order of
the Senate"
Mr.. Harvey-Have you that bill and
those letters with you and Will you pro-
duce them during this debate?
MIR. HOrr-I will if have them. | am
not sure if brought them with me.
Mr.. Harvey-By examining the records
of the day and the newspapers, we find
there was an era of corruption in Con-
gress at that time. Clinton Colgate con-
tessed before the Ways and Means Com
mittee of 1873 to the use of money to
influence the incorporation of special
features in the internal revenue bill. testi-
fving, among other things, that Charles
Sherman of Ohio, brother OF Senator
Sherman. had been paid $4,000 by the
New York Stock Exchange Ia connection
with the revenue bill. The fact devel-
oped that while the money had not been
paid, Judge Sherman had rendered
bill tor his services for securing the serv-
ices of his brother, Senator Sherman, to
put the bill through. Judge Sherman
was then Z United States District Judge. |
The attempt to smirch the Congress OF
the United States can be characterized by
no OTHER word than Infamous" shouted
Mr. Horr, leaping to bis feet The man
have started at all. The people Of this |
the Congressman is no ex-
ception-as an average are upright. honest |
business men. | admit that General |
Sherman was guilty, but it was in no |
way connected with his brother, John !
Sherman, and you know it. Judge |
sherman resigned Immediately. They |
drove him from the bench. But what
has that to do with the question whether
Mr.. Knox openly and squarely presented |
this bill to Congress? 1t was debated in
the Senate for three days. 1t came to |
vote in the Senate January 10. 1871, and |
passed by yea and nay vote. The SEN
ators from the Pacific slope voted for it.
and Senator Sherman voted against it.
The Fitty-hrst Congress adjourned with
out action having been taken on the bill.U
Mr.. Harvey continued his line of at
tack on the honesty of Congress and Its
employees III 1873. referring particularly
10 the charges OF CORFU ptlon made by in
1ividualS and the press against George
4. Bassett. Clerk of the Ways and
Means Committee. "The salary grab
bill, which had To be repealed by force
If public sentiment. was passed by the
congress which demOnetiZed silver. The
people could understand salary grab,
out they could not understands scientific
,poliation of their rights. TO make
plain how the fraud was practiced, l
will read the sections as they stand in
he law, and include the words which
we're erased from the bill surreptitiously
n its passage"
Mr.. Horr (interrupting) whom
" hat proof have you that anything was
erased?
Mr.. Harvey-I will get to the proof of
hat little later. As the bill passed
both houses the unit was on gold, and
rec and unlimited coinage of both met
lis was provided for. But as enrolled
he minis were closed to free and un-
United coinage of silver, except as to
he trade dollar afterwards abolished |