The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1895-04-21

through with it, The only use of ed
ucation is to direct the intelligence OF
! Children. Finances must be considered
| mere, and there is no sense in keeping
up two or three expensive corps OF
professors. Then. too. children are Sent
away because our university is poor
and cannot command the necessary
respect. The thing to do is to build uI
an institution to which the people OF
the east can send their children and
let them have health while they are
| studying As soon as the university is
taken off wheels and put on a solid
foundation it will command respect
Rich men will give it something which
will make their names illustrious.
No Objection Then.
Greer said that when the Agricultural
college was founded. not a member OF
the legislature. not professor Of the
university and nobody from Salt Lake
objected to separation. A criticism
on this was a reflection on that and
subsequent legislatures. It would cost
too much money to make the expert
ment of union.
/ Peters wanted to know if the grants
/ of land would follow if union were
made.
Pierce said there would be no trouble
/ about that. The colleges would be sep
arated
A recess was taken from u until
Again. when 2 o'clock arrived. there
was lack of a quorum. Five minutes
after the hour the necessary 81 appear
ed and Chairman WINS called to order.
Squires Against Union.
Squires denied that the experiment
tried at Cornell university had been a
success. The scholars in the agricul-
tural departments are looked down on
by the other scholars. If no action had
been taken. however. he might be led
to consider the proposition of union.
But union either in Salt Lake or in
property now held. An Agricultural
college should be located in an agri-
cultural region. while the university
should be near the center of popula-
ton. The expense of consolidation
would be great. while he could not see
where a commensurate saving would
be effected. He was not in favor of los
ing $150O00 in order that the fads of
higher educationalists might be carried
out.
Wants Men, Not Dudes.
Thoresen. of Cache. wanted to let
good enough alone. The Agricultural
college will be a credit to the state if
let alone 1t had the best growth Of
any such institution in the country. Its
fame is not limited to this territory
but has gone out far into
the people want it. When
it was first located it was
considered an inferior institution and
thought fit to go to any county. Farm
ers will not send their sons and daugh-
tiers to great city to get an indus
trial education. The Agricultural col
loge would be thrown into the shade
by the University. The college is
making men, not dudes. I'VE do not
want the University. We promise if
you keep on giving us what has been
given, in the next five years we will
make an institution of which you can
be proud" Boys who go to the Uni
versity do not satisfy their parents
when they return. Home builders are
needed in the state, not men who have
classical educations In Ohio, in Idaho,
in Wyoming the University has over
Swallowed the agricultural part. With
union or separation Utah cannot hope
for years to compete with the great
educational institutions of the east.
Generosity Appreciated.
Thatcher said ne would vote for sep
aration. The college was established
the members from Salt Lake county.
The people of the north have greatly
appreciated this generosity He found
the same generous feelings on the
floor at the time. If it should be de-
cided to keep the institution separate
the people of the north would appre-
ciate it; but if it was decided to unite
they would bow. He had doubts as to
the union. He had seen men who
dared to face death without blanching,
but who would stink away like
whipped cur before a sheer. He feared
the effect of the University on the
farmers boys. He wanted to build
UP the University in this city until it
would be made full worthy of the
name of University.
Leave to the Legislature.
Richards said the matter should not
be incorporated in the constitution. He
had looked in vain in other constitu-
lions for such provisions. The loca-
ton belongs prominently to the leg
islature. Let it unite them if it so
desired; let it keep them separate if
that is found better. However, if it
came to a vote he would favor separ-
alton. He was not prepared to believe
union would be best.
Raleigh said it was easy enough to
understand that if a man had two
patches of potatoes. one in Salt Lake
and one in Logan. it would be cheaper
to have them together. But the same
kind of wisdom as that which had
made our streets wide had fixed the
location of the two institutions They
had been built ahead of the times and
it was only necessary to wait for times
to change. He was generally in favor
of union, but some things are better
eparated-especially hair and butter.
Oaughter)
Snow said the whole matter should
be left to the legislature. If delegates
would look into their own minds they |
would find themselves between doubt |
and fear. They are not satisfied Just |
what is the proper thing to do. but
the doubt will be in favor of union
on the ground of economy If perma-
nent location was made there might |
be regret. The legislature would be |
much better able to deal with the |
question.
Condition Not a Theory.
Roberts said if only a theory were
up he would favor union; but con-
dition was present, not a theory.
Union will not compensate for the |
sacrifice necessary to obtain the bene-
fits. Grave mischief would result from
the uncertainty if the matter is left to
heal LOT. :,