Birmingham age-herald., 1895-07-25
THAT HORRIBLE HOLMES.
A LITTLE MORE LIGHT ON HIS lNIQTlTIEs
Two of His BriderIings Are Being Induced to TaIk-lt Is Believed They
 Can Tell More.

Chicago, July 26.-The detectives have found two janitors who are believed to be more or less cognizant of Holmes swindles They are Joe Owens, now of Bluffton, O., and Patrick Quinlan of Evanston. Both came to Chicago prompt ly in answer to eummons from the chief of police, and have been in the sweat box the greater part of the day.
 Quinlan acted as a man who was badly scared, but Owens did not seem much disturbed. Both of these men were em- ployed at the Holmes building in 1893, in which the Williams girls are supposed to have been murdered. Owens was the regular janitor of the building, while Quinlan was a sort of jack of all trades turning his hand to any work which came up for him to do, and Holmes. with his many queer schemes kept him con stantly busy. While neither man was placed under arrest on arriving at the building both were from that time on under police surveillance.
 Qnnlan would say nothing, but Owens talked rather freely.
 The object of the examination was to get statements out of the men and then compare them with those of the final in- quiry, in the hope that it might in this way be ascertained whether they were sticking to the truth or not.
 Owens was examined by Detective Fitzpatrick. brother of the inspector who has charge of the Chicago end of the case
 In regard to the mysterious box, which by many was supposed to have been used by Holmes as a receptacle for the bodies of the Williams girls, Owen said: T helped to carry the trunk to the third story with Holmes and took it to the de- pot in August, 1893, about the middle of the month.
 "In November 1893, in conversation with me about the insurance, he told me he wanted to keep the Williams girl in hiding; that he did not want her to be seen by any of the insurance people, and that he could telegraph and st 5000 any time. About the last of November or December 1, 1893, I assisted Holmes to establish the firm of Campbell, Yates & Co. for the purpose of getting insurance on the building at the southwest corner of Sixty-third and Wallace streets, which insurance he received about November, 1895. Holmes came to me and instructed me to represent to the insurance com panes that l was the secretary of the company, which l did, and I also took an affidavit to that effect. I also stated that I had met Yates and received stock from him. He also instructed me to make the statement then that had met Minnie Williams, which I did. He in- duced me to make these statements by promising me my back wages and by his hypnotizing ways. I candidly believed that he had certain amount of influence over me. While I was with him l was always under his control. I never re- ceved my back wages"
 Owens stated substantially the same things to reporter and the following ad- ditional: "I never knew the Conner wO man. l had heard of her, but had neyar I met her or the Williams girls. I never saw any woman around the place. Piet- gel was the man who hired me. and met Holmes one day in the basement"
 The bones found this morning are now believed by the central station detectives to be those of Gertie Corners, the daugh- ter of Mrs. Julia Corners who Is believed to have been one of Holmes victims Mother and daughter disappeared about the me time
 Tie testimony of Quinlan was by far the most important. He was questioned closely regarding the disappearance of Mrs. Corners and admitted that he knew of it. Holmes he said. first told him Mrs. Corners had gone over on the north side to remain few weeks, and after ward said she had gone to California to live and had got married there.
 It developed during the examination that Holmes had had Quinlan's 11-year- old daughter insured for 5000, but whether or not he had ever collected the insurance Is not known. Quinlan says he can produce his daughter if necessary. and it is probable that the police, with the fate of Minnie Williams and Alice Williams in the balance, will ask him to do so. Quinlan made contradictory and improbable statemenes and the police believe he can be made to tell great deal more than he has yet told.
 Neither man was placed under arrest. but both are under surveillance and will probably be given another turn in the sweat box tomorrow.
 A Verdict of Wilful Murder.
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