St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1895-02-14
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Peter Valley Creates Il Great
Sensation.
Simon Gittleson. the Temple Court
pawn broker, was the first witness
called yesterday morning. He tes-
titled regarding three diamond rings.
Peter Valley. a hack-driver who
had driven Hayward about town on
several occasions. was the next wit
ness. He proved a valuable one to
the state. and during his eGamina-
ton Hayward manifested cOnsidera-
bic concern.
What is your business, asked
Mr. Nye A Hack-driver.
@. Do you know Harry Hayward?
a. Yes. sir.
@. Did you know Miss Cling dur
ing her lifetime? A I cannot say
that 1 did until after she was dead.
1 have seen her once that L know.
@. I viii ask you if at any time
during the month of July. or about
that time. "a. you had any particular
conversation with him at or near the
Ozark? a. Yes. sir. 1t was in the
morning. between 4 and 5 o'clock.
inside the carriage. I was hauling
MI Hayward.
Q. How long had you hauled
him that night or morning? A. Wei
I could not just exactly tell. About
two and a half or three hours; some
where along there.
@. Had he any other person with
him during that ride? A. He had,
but he was not with him then.
O. Now. what time did you reach
the Ozark? A About 4 o'clock in
the morning.
Q. How long did you remain there
at the time Of the conversation that
occurred in the hack? A Cne-half
or uhree-quarters of an hour.
o. Were you both inside of the
hack? A Yes.
Q. State to the court and jury
what was said in that conversation.
What Harry said to you.
Mr. Erwin don't know what the
subject matter is. and 1 will object
to il as immateriaI and irrelevant.
The Court don't know; go on.
Mr. Nye-It may be that 1 ought
to state TO the judge privately in
your hearing what the nature Of it
is. I viii do so.
Mr.. Nye here went up to the court,
also Mr. Erwin, and stated what he
wished to show.
Mr. ErWin-Objected to as imma-
terial. irrelevant and in no way
identified with this case or can be:
and that it is distinctly stated that
it is not expected to be identified
with any of the persons connected
with this case except the defendant;
that it is an attack upon character
and a criminal question from which
improper deductions as to the char
acter Of the defendant was drawn.
The Court-ObjectiOn OVeTTuIed.
Mr. ErWin-EXCeptiOn
lIr. Ny-Go on now and state
What he said to you at that time.
A Well. he was questioning me in
regard to my conscience. if L done
any deeds, or anything like that
would my conscience bother me aft
erwards. 1 told him it would. He
did not mention what the deed was
He asked me different things. and [
could not hardly understand what
he wanted to get at He asked me
about driving into the lake with o
party in a hack-he did not say what
-he did not say who it was. man or
woman. or what and turned off and
let the team go and come out. I
told him 1 was no swimmer. He
wanted to know if the team was
fractions. I told him they were.
Surprising they would start them
and turn them loose. turn them off
to the bluff. something like that,
would it be apt to do the whole rig
UP? [ told him it would. He asked
me what 1 would take for the rig. !
told him. He asked me if I cared
what was done with the rig after he
had it. I told him no, it was imma-
terial TO me
Q. Anything further occur to YOU
concerning this? A. Well. he spoke
to me once before: wanted to know
if I did not want TO make some
money, but he did not state how I
was to make it. That was at the
union depot.
O. This conversation at the Ozark
which you say lasted half or three
quarters of an hour: what further
can you recall that was said? Was
it an argument about whether you
should do it or not or whether your
conscience troubled you? A There
was a question to see whether my
conscience would bother me if I did
some deed or other That was all the
way / looked at it.
O. Was there any other deed men
toned than the drowning of a per
son, or the letting of the team run
away. as you have described? A
That was one supposition: that was
just merely asked for information.
which [ could not give.
Q. Well what did you tell him in
regard to telling him anything fur
Their? A. L told him in regard to
anything like that that I would not
have nothing TO do with anything
that would injure anybody or kill
them. not if [ knew it.
@. Was there anything said by
him as to the place which you could
drive off? A. No, sir.
O. Well, [ viii ask you, then, off
he mentioned any place? A No
place is particular. Only he sug-
gested one place, that is at Lake