The herald., 1895-11-01
Advertisers Reach the People
daughter, Dassa, also identified them and

pictures of Howard, Nellie and Alice.
Detective Frank p. Gsyer, Who traced
Holmes movements throughout the
country. identified letters written by the
children to their mother and never
mailed by Holmes. Later he will tell the
story of his travels.
Detective Geyer was recalled. He said
he had an interview with Holmes in the
cell room of the city hall on NOvembe
20. 1894, about the body found IN the
Callowhill-street house. Holmes said TO
him that it was not PltzePs body but u
substitute.
"He told mo he left the Eleventh-street
house on Sunday, September ID, in the
morning, and went to New York, where
he went to:.a m edicsI student and procured
a corpse. He Put it in a trunk and had
1T taken by furniture cart driver to
Jersey City, where it was shipped on the
same train to Philadelphia that Holmes
came over on. He reached this city about
o'clock in the afternoon. he said, aud
met Pitzel at the main office OF the West
ern Union Telegraph company and gave
him the check for the trunk. Then he
went up to the Eleventh street house
ard that night went west. The next place
he saw Pitzel was in Detroit, where he
met him at the postoffice. l asked him
where Pitzel and the children were and
he said in South America. He refused
to give me the name OF the student from
whom he got the corpse, saying the
student was supposed to be dead, as years
before he and Holmes had swindltd
an insurance company out OF $2O 00O.
man OF family. He would only give his
name in the event of being brought up
for murder. He SAID he had told Pitzel
he was to prepare the substituted tody I;
to place it on the floor with the arm ON
the br east. put the liquid in the mouth
and set fire to it. The liquid had been
used for cleansing clothes.
"a few days before his arraignment for
conspiracy to which he pleaded guilty,
| saw him in the cell room and ne said
the story he had told ma about the sub
sttution of body was not true and that
the corpse found was that of Pitzel. L
said: We'll. Holmes. if that is the case,
then you murdered Pitzei aud the child
rem" aa+
He said NO, did not.
The detective then related how Holmes
found PitZePs body as already published
in q statement by Holmes.
Il asked him where the children
were" said the detective, land he said
Minnie Williams had gone to London.
" The last time 1 saw Howard. he
said to me. was in Detroit on the
Toronto. Minnie Williams took dinner
with me at Geise's hotel and gave
Howard to her. Then | took the girls TO
Toronto. | put them on train there and
left aC the arst station outside the city.
Before leaving Alice l pinned $40O on her
breast. Alice vas to go to Niagara Falls
and wait for Minnie Williams and How
ard, when they would all 60 to London.
If you go to NewYork the shipping de-
partment there will show you that two
boys, a girl and woman went to Lon
don. | told Minnie to cut off Nellie's hair
c,,I l,ar hnu Sn IN
suspicion
II asked him what he had done with
the childrens' trunks. and he said that
when he left indianapolis to take the
children to Chicago he left the trunks i'll
a hotel on West Madison street and never
took them away. In June, in company
with Mr.. Perry, | saw him in prison, and
then he told us that he mad given How
ard to "a man named Hatch in Indiana
polls. and that was the last he had ever
seer OF him. The last he saw OF the girl
was in Toronto"
Detective Geysr was here temporarily
Withdrawn and Mr.. Graham offered to
prove the finding of tho bores Of Howard
at Irvington. suburb OF indianapolis.
and the Dodies of the girls in the cellar of
a house in Toronto. The defense objected
and the jury were taken to their room
while a lengthy argument OF the admls-
sibility of the testimony on both sides
LOOK place.
Judge Arnold caused mild sensation
by deciding that the killing of the child
had no connection with the trial of
Holmes for the murder of the father and
that no such evidence could be intro
duced.
This was the first turn in favor of
Holmes since the beginning of the trial,
and a decided set back for the common
wealth. The prisoner. however, made
no sign when he heard the decision.
Geyer was then put under cross-examina-
tion. He was asked but few questions
and Corrobofattd his former statements.
Superintendent Cf Police Linden Of this
city testified that Holmes made state
ment to him in his Office about January
9th last. He had reoue We'd the privilege
of making the statement without the
knowledge of his counsel. In this he said
that having failed to get body in New
York he came back to Philadelphia, and
or Saturday night, September 1st, he
met Pitzel The latter was despondent,
spoke of his sick children and said there
was nothing for him to live for, or words
to that effect.
Mr.. Graham said that with the excep-
tion of two or three witnesses, the COM
monw eatlh was ready to close and it
would perhaps be better to 60 on in the
morning.
Court then, at 30 p. M. adjourned
until 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.