The Dickinson press., 1895-08-03

OF the prices OF wheat for q series Of years.
IN reply to Mr. Horr's statement Of Thurs.
day that the farmer had received as much
for his produce In gold as he had received
when silver was damonet xod. For answer
he quoted che prices from wear ia ycsr
He declared that the arguments of Mr..
Horr were those which had tean cl in
oil time to bnlwark tyranny. The dec'ara
con OF independence was the proper answer
TO such arguments. Mr.. Harvey o,ocet del
by saying that the proper index OF prices
was to measure the main articles Of In
ternational use. Tables made up by gold
men even on these articles showed tho1
they were lower than in 1850. Refcrrin.
to Mr.. Horr's argument touching the meas
ure Of value in human toll. Mr. n,rvcy
quoted from IN article by MFR. Ho.r In n
PAPER In reply to a correspondent suggest
equivalent of Il dollar. Mr.. Ilorr ..ec-ar,yI
the proposition absurd ami confusing.
Mr.. Horr said that Mr.. Harvey had ONLY
quoted brief extract and 1t did not give,
the sense of the article. The CORE spor,l
ent replied he did not want either god OF
silver money. but merely papsr based on
nothing. It was only another form Of III.
soctalistic craze and Mr.. Harvey would
come to that in the end. His Liscas, hs.,
not reached Its worst stage. 1t woull com,
to socialism and anarchy in the end.
Mr.. liarvey's friends in the au:iance
broke out In dissent at this statement an,l
Mr.. Harvey declared that not n word be
had uttered would justify 1t.
Mr.. Horr declared that the only ap,' aust.
which his opponent had secured from HIS
friends in the audience was wfe; hn 10.
nounccd large part of the p .cpic of !he
country us scounlrels and hai asser.c.l
that the country was going to the dogs.
Mr.. Horr then TOOK up
The Question of Banks,
(Which Mr. Harvey on former occasion had
denounced. He admittcd that there were
corrupt banks but the business of hank
ing % as carries m was the outgrowth Of
They made 1t possible for gold dollar to
90 twenty tin es as much as it could do
otherwise. He had seen $119, ,OOO, 600 of bus
iness settled in three hours in the New
York clearing houses and less than 8 per
cent of it was done in money. If 1t had
been necessary to count all of this money
1t would have taken an army of men and
long days of work.
Mr.. Harvey, replying. presented table
OF failures showing the failures in the coun-
try for series of years. He pointed out
that during the war, when the circulating
medium amounted to $40 per capita, fail
ures had been reduced to u minimum. AS
the circulating medium decreased failures
Increased. The nation owed it to itself to
get rid of this great amount Of bank credit
and substitute money for it. The interest
on $1O,O0OO0O of debts to the banks was the
equivalent of the amount Of the annual
failures. Mr.. Harvey quoted figures rs to
the number and mileage of railroads In the
hands OF receivers, the comparatively large
increase Of tenant farmers over owning
farmers in 1890 over 1880, ds shown by
the census returns, and the great percent
age of housekeepers who are renters, not
owners. Mr.. Harvey said: II now read
you from page 262 of the February, 1895,
number of Lippincott's Magazine'in n COM
parative review Of the census of 1880 with
that of 1890: In forty-scven states and
territories the number owning farms In
creased 15S,951 and the number of tenant
farmers increased 500, 1887. In 1880 25G2
per cent Of the farms were cultivated by
tenants, in 1894 34.13 per cent of the farms
were hired I refer to this because Mr..
HOrr used some detached statements
Concerning Minnesota Farms
the other day, which must be regarded rs
very in complete. 1 have read you a COM
parison of the tables for the whole United
States" (applause.)
Mr.. Horse did I follow it with the
whole
Mr.. Harvey-I did not so understand 1t.
Mr.. Horr-Well, you did not read that
said then. Did not pay attention. gave
the whole.
MT. HarVey-D)u you nave your UOOk
here. the book you read from?
Mr.. Horr-I don't remember about that.
Mr.. Harvey-YOu have not been having
the books here?
Mr. Horr-Why, the bulk of the books
can't get because you fayc got :bem out
Of the library and keep them. l have
never been able to get them. Applause and
laughter)
Mr. Harvey-There are eight or ten pub
lie librnres in this city all having the
| books that we are using in this debate
And the books that have had here have
| been on this table for Mr.. Horr's use II
he wanted them. No such subterfuge as
that will save the gentleman in making
quotations In this debate. the authorities
our inspection. (Applause) l now read
you, Mr.. Horr, on this subject from the
Census Bulletin of the ceusus of 1880. now
In my hand. I read you this paragraphs:
"Ncw York is the congested part Of a
large urban region and greater New York
may more fairly be taken into considera-
tion. In New York city and the nine
counties in New York state and New Jer-
sey that are nei;hboring to that city S1.54
per cent of the home families are tenants" :"
Now as to your city Of New York: ''The
highest degree Of city home. tenancy ks
in New York and is represented by 03.67
per cent" Ninety-three and sixty-seven
/
city are tenants.
Mr.. Horr-l have this to say in reference
to my conduct of this debate without
bringing in my books, and allude to that
reminding you of the gusto, for which
Brother Harvey Is SO peculiar. with which
he says: II now pass the book over to
| Mr.. HOrr," when he knows that 1t Is I'M
possible for me during the excitement Of
the debate to examine and look into the
merits of the book or his references. The
| only times when I have done 1t, l have
caught him In misquoting the book and
| made him own 1t right here before the
| audience.
Mr.. Harvey-Mr Horr that Is not true.
| Mr.. Horr-The audience knows whether
that Is true or not.
Mr.. Harvey-The record of the debate
will show it.
Increase of Gold.
Mr.. Horr said that he would admit that
the quantity of gold in the world had not
increased us fast Us the business Of the
world; but 1t was not necessary. One
hundred dollars would now do more than
two thousand dollars would formerly.
| Ninety-lve per cent Of the business was
done without the use Of gold except as a
standard of measure. He illustrated the
case by citing a stream on which there
was an old-fashioned mill. Let other
modern mills be constructed along this
| stream anu ny using Cne same wafer tne
output would be vastly increased.
Mr.. Harvey. replying, made another mp
plication of the comparison of the stream
to money. Suppose, he said, that mills had
been built along the stream and their ma.
chinery adapted to it. Then suppose that
suddenly one-half Of the flow Of that
stream were cut off. How would it affect
the mills? Suppose, again. that certain p n.
sons should divert the water Of this
stream. store it in great reservoirs and
charge the mills toll for its use. That
would be parallel case to that OF the
relation of the people and the BANKS ut
present. Mr.. Harvey gave figures showing
the number of homiciles in the United
States from 1882 to 1891, the number of
suicides. the number of convicts in prison.
etc. He attributed these to decreasing
wages and the increasing value of money.
He said he pointed out these things be.
cause they indicated n national disease;
a disease threatening the life of the re.
public. 1t was necessary to honestly dag.
nose the disease in order to apply the
remedy. All republics had fallen from the
same causes. When they reached point
where the control Of the ne cssaries OF
life fell into the hands of selfish men, q
monarchy became logical and necessary.
"fhe masses became restlcss-why? Be.
cause they have become poor; because
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