The record-union. [volume] (Sacramento, Calif.) 1891-1903, 1895-07-30
Copyright, 1895, by Azel F. Hatch.
tomporaneously.


Copyright, 1895, by Azel F. Hatch.l
CHICAGO, July 29.-The Horr Harvey
silver debate came TO an end to-day.
Every seat in the Art Gallery of the II
linois Club was occupied when time was
called for the closing session of the great
war of words, and the walls were lined
with listeners eager to catch the closing
remarks OF the contestants. TWenty-
four hours in all have been consumed in
the debate. which ran through eight days,
and 145,00 words in ali were spoken.
According to the original agreement The
two gentlemen still have $500 words each
in which to close. This is to be sub
mitted. however, in manuscript any time
within seven days, to be inserted In the
book which is to be published.
During the entire debate Mr.. Harvey
read from manuscript. while Mr.. Horr
spoke eXtempOraneously The audience
was on every occasion composed mainly
of free-Silver men, and did not seem TO
weary of Mr.. Harvey's reading, but
cheered him at every opportunity.
Mr.. Harvey this afternoon denied that
he mad been furnished with money by the
the tone in which ho said. Il was not
hired TO talk here" seemed 10 indicate
! that he thought his opponent was.
Resolutions were passed thanking the
members of the club for the use OF their
house, and expressing appreciation of all
that had been done by various ladies' and
gentlemen TO assist III the carrying Oh of
the debate. \ resolution was also passed
thanking both MessrS. HOrr and Harvey
for the mass of information which they
have presented the public since the de-
bate began.
MIR, Horr led off to-day with the sweep
ing assertion that in the few cases in
! which the figures cited by Harvey were
| correct, they had tended to weaken his
own arguments. He then referred to
| Mr.. Harvey's statement which the latter
! had said was based upon the authority of
Carroll Wright, United States Commits
sioner of Labor, 10 the effect that there
were between two and four million un-
employed men in the country. In refu-
tation of these figures, he produced tel
/ egram from Mr.. Wright expressly dis
| claiming them.
The elect of this shot was spoiled,
| however, by Mr.. Harvey's explanation
! that these were the only figures that be
| had used in his book that had not been
| verified, and that Immediately after the
appearance of the first edition he had
| of his reply had erased the incorrect data
| from the stereotype plates or the book.
| Afler this temporary digresslOn, the
| silver champion expressed his Obligations
| to everyone who had assisted him in the
| debate He then said: In all history in
the struggle between liberty aud oppres-
| sion. as they have alternately risen and
tallen, it has been truthfully said that Il
free press is the greatest bulwark OF lib
erty and tyranny has descended upon it
and freed it the greatest influence
arrayed against it. AS oppression rises.
the press is muzZled. 1t is bought up
and made to speak deceit and mislead the
| people,"
Mr.. Horr. in replying to Mr.. Harvey's
criticism of the press, said he had moth
ing TO say against the papers mentioned,
nor any other paper IN the city. Some
OF them," he said, ''have treated me q S
they saw fit l had one paper thrust in
| my face at the dOoc Of this building with
a column of belittliug remarks about me
that were very cutting, but when l found
upon further perusal that the fellow
favored tree coinage of silver and favored
| il only because It was a step TO break
down ell the laws Of the country. /
found out that it was the worst kind of
all anarchistlc creed and / threw il aside.
| But when you come to the great Amerl-
cans as whole, | have no fault to find
that the leading press of the country can
can be bought up for the purpose OF pro-
| duciug legislation IN the interest OF any
particular people against the citiZens of
the United States, l do not believe it" ;. .
Mr.. Harvey resumed the thread of his
| argument by producing printed table
showing the amounts OF silver coined
annually from 1872 to 1873 for the purpose
OF demonstrating the faisity of the state
| meut made by the mononetallistS that
for the first 1ifty years OF the present
century the United States was on silver
basis and on gold basis from 1858 to
1873. The statement, he said, that gold
did not seek the mints for the first fifty
years and that silver did not seek the
mints for the last thirty years prior to
1873. is not true. He quoted from the
United States coinage laws appendix of
1894. The stock OF gold is there given as
So. .90l, 100000, the stock of silver, 1881, =
900, 900. On account Of the great use of
gold in the arts he maintained that there
was not enough OF the yellow metal to
answer the needs of money.
Mr.. Horr maintained his previous
statements that no nation alone can es-
tablish the old ratio of l6 to l, and he did
not believe that MIR. Harvey thinks any
one nation can do it. Nations by their
laws 60 not tx the value of things," he
said. "Ihey cannot do it if they try
present time is wide apart. The ratio of
l6 TO is to-day thing of the past. AL
ways from the earliest foundation OF So
ciety the relative value between gold and
silver has been fixed by the people of the
world and not by legislation. Mr.. Har
yey and | agree that the free coinage
of silver will decrease the meas
ure of value used here in this
country. The burden OF his whole
talk in this debate is that we ought to
have cheaper measure, that the unit Is
worth too much. SO now we agree that 1t
will change the measure. MIR. Harvey
saws that IL is what ought TO be done, be-
cause, he says, the whole world IS in
debt and our country on the brink OF
ruin because the present dollar is too
valuable That is a position i'll which
differ from him. The debts OF the DAY
have all been contracted with the gold
dollar as the measure. and 10 relieve the
payment OF them in any way by trick of
this kind is reputation"
Mr.. Harvey continued his quotations
from statistics in relation 10 the worlds
supply OF gold and the bearing the arts
had toward il. 1.-The more costly either
gold or silver becomes" he said, "the
greater the demand among the rich for it
for use as ornaments. Where the dearer
is used exclusively for primary money 1t
is the one that Is boarded. When gold
and silver were both used as money III
their own right silver was boarded by the
plain people and was brought forth to
serve them in time o: need. Gold is
principally boarded by the rich to
serve a purpose in hulling the money
market. The boarding of silver is bene-
fetal. and the boarding of gold is an in-