The daily morning journal and courier., 1895-12-07
DECIDED IN FAVOR OF YALE
HER MEN WIN IN THE DEBATE
 RITH THOSE OF PRINCETON.

WITH THOSE OF ERIN INCEPTION. The Judges Held short Consultation Be-
 fore the Award Was Given and Then De-
 cared That Aale Had the Preferenoe--
 After the Debate Banquet was Given in
 Princeton Hall.
 Princeton, N. J., Dec. 6.-The debate between Yale and Princeton occurred this evening in Alexander hall, On the former occasion Princeton defeated her opponent at New Haven, but this year the judges decided in favor of the visitors.
 After calling the gathering to order Dr. Patton introduced the presiding of- ficer of the evening, Hon. George Gray, Princeton '59 United States senator from Delaware. MT. Gray spoke warm ly on the increased interest which is being shown in intellectual rivalry among the large universities, also men, tionings the position held by debate in moulding public opinion. The subject for the debate was;
 Resolved, That it would be wise to establish in respect of all state legisla- tion of a general character a system of referendum similar to that established in Switzerland.
 This question had been chosen by ID,.i,, Oln nf std bax xntt been given to Yale, who took the nega- tive
 Ralpher Barton Perry 96, of Prince ton, was the first speaker in the affirm atiye He traced the history of the ref erendum in America, showed that only slight additional step was necessary to make our usage a system similar to that established In Switzerland. He ad- vocated the establishment of a referen- dunn system for the following reasons: l, it will provide simple and efficient means of expressing directly the will of the people; 2. it will substitute meth cd comprehensive enough to meet the demands of the time and will prevent our present pernicious method of leg islation by constitutional amendment. The first speaker for Yale was Charles Upson Clark '97, of New York, who en- deavored to show the difference be- tween the system of referendum in use in the countries under question. Robert O. Kirkwood 97, the second speaker in the affirmative, pointed out that government by the people had almost ceased because of the substitu- tion of government by bosses, machines and corporations and declared that the affirmative advocated the referendum He said that the present condition was largely due to the corruption found in our legislative halls and the vicious dominant party power; argued the ref erendum would lessen this element of venality and would greatly invalidate dominant party power. Furthermore, he said, state issues would be distin- guished from national.
 Austin Rice 97 of the Theological seminary was the second speaker in the negative. His chief argument was that the apathy of the masses of peo- pie regarding legislative topics would render them unfit to deal with such subjects.
  med up for the affirmative. He showed that the referendum would increase the educational power of our state gov ernmental system and would largely destroy the apathy prevalent among our citizens in regard to political af- fairs.
 Edward Holmes McVey '96 Yale law school, concluded the first part of the debate for Yale by trying to prove that the optional referendum would not decrease the present evils. Each of the first speeches were of twelve min utes. These were followed by four sec- ond speeches of five minutes each Messrs Clark and Rice appearing for Yale.
 The judges of the debate, Messrs c. c. Beman, James c. Carter and Francis L. Stetson, had a short con sultation and then MT. Beaman an- nounced that the decision was not unan- imous. it being very difficult to decide which were superior but that Yale had been given the preference by the ma- iority of the judges. After the debate a large number of those present went to the Princeton Inn, where a banquet was given the Yale debaters. Speeches were made by President Pat ion Professor A. T. Hadley of Yale Professor Bliss Perry of Princeton, and JobSF. Hedges 'S4 Princeton. The party then sang a number of Yale and Prince ton songs.