The Topeka state journal. [volume] (Topeka, Kansas) 1892-1980, 1895-07-31

ers also have reference to the chatteH
mortgage fend, so-called, who loans at
from 2 to per cent per month. Ware
houses are now being constructed to
store NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. that the own
ers ought to be sleeping on. I will drop
this subject, because the least intima-
ton makes the people know what I
mean, by saying that hold in my hand
a book that gives the chattel mortgages
in the state of Nebraska. Under law
there the owners of chattel mortgages
were required to record them or they
could not collect their money. And this
book that hold in my hand and pass
over to Mr.. Horn shows that there is a
per capita Indebtedness in the state of
Nebraska on chattel mortgages alone Of
$19 per capita. and that does not include
the actual "three-balP' pawn shops; and
I had right when 1 said that the pawn
brokers of the United States had the
people in debt to them 81, 900, O00, 900. I
had right to say it, and it was true,
as every other item in that list is true,
which I have not now the time to an
swer without exhausting the words Of
this debate. Since this debate began I
have followed it's logical arrangement.
Much more might have been said upon
our side of this debate if it had not
been diverted at almost every step after
we had passed through the first chapter
ending with the crime of 1878 We
stayed together as far as that. Since
then Mr.. Horn has diverted this argu-
ment; had he not done so it probably
might have been more educational. This
debate is now coming to close, except
Monday, when we treat on Independent
action of the United States, and as 1
wish nothing Monday to interfere with
what I shall say on that subject. l now
wish to refer to an unpleasant matter.
Presents Mr.. Horr with a 1899 Dollar
Since Mr. Horn came to Chicago, in
newspaper interviews and in words
used in this debate, he has alluded to
me in very uncOmplime ntary language,
and to my manuscript, to my manner
and method of presenting these great
truths to you. I am going to answer
Nfr. Horn. and, Mr.. Horn, my answer is
this: That I regarded this debate as a
| great question, involving the interests
of the American people My further an
swer is this: It concerns you. You are
1
( all the public orators and debaters the
foremost in America. You are the
! financial writer of the New York Trib-
une-are the best posted man in the
| United States upon the gold standard
! side of this question. You were selected
! by the committee of bankers of this city
/ for the reason that you are the ablest
man in America to present it on their
side. If there has been any weakness
in your argument it has not been on
your account, it has been on account Of
your cause. Continued applause) I
have no word of reprOach to pass back
to you, I have only words of kindness
to give you; and in addition to that am
going to do something that will cause
you to remember this debate. l am go
ing to give you a souvenir by which
you may remember it. On the first day
of this debate, when it was a question
of supremacy between my cause and
your cause, when it was a question Of
what was the monetary unit of measure
in our coinage system fixed by our fore
fathers, I introduced many witnesses,
among them Jefferson, the committee
that was appointed to fix a monetary
Gallatin of the treasury, Chief Justice
Chase and others. But they are all now
dead. [ introduced one living witness.
1t was the dollar itself of 1799 with the
word unit upon it. I am now going
to give this coin to Mr.. Horn. (Ap-
plause) Take it, Mr.. Horn Washing
ton may have carried it in his pocket;
Jefferson may at one time have had it
in his possession; it may have paid for
the paper on which the declaration of
war was written in 1872 against Great
Britain; it may have been fondled by
Jackson when writing his message to
congress against the national bank.
(Applause.) It is a fit souvenir for any
American proud of his country and Of
it's institutions to carry in his pocket all
the days of his life. passing dollar to
Mr.. Horn. Applause, shouts, cries Of
"Hurrahr' and continued applause)
Mr.. Horr-This little episode, accord
ing to all the rules of parliamentary de-
bate and of social courtesy, requires a
fitting reply of thanks to my friend for
this very kind action. l must say, how
ever, that l do not deserve one-haf the
eulogy he gives me. l came to this
city myself expecting to discuss this
question in a scientific and in what 1
call a straightforward way. I am not
the most eloquent defender OF the gold
standard in the United States. 1 am
perhaps an experienced public debater,
that is, 1 have met many of the leading
men of the United States who differ
with me on other great questions. I
came here expecting that the debate
would be carried on courteously, quiet
". and that [ was to receive the treat
ment due to me as a gentleman.
have never yet complained of Mr..
Harvey of one iota of discourtesy, or
of anything OF the kind. 1 don't hold