New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-06-22
1JRERAL MINISTRY BEATEN
OUTVOTED IN THE COMMONS.
r cR1s1s PRECIPITATED on A QUESTION
OF WAR ESTIMATES


CONSERVATIVES CARRY A MOTION OF CENsCRE
nv A VOTE OF 1872 TO I25 AMID WILD EN-
crrEMENr-MR OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES
TO REsIGX-w1lI RosEBERy GO
or srAY?-CoMMENTs OF THE
LONDON PRESS.
Jondon June ol The Government de-
feated In the House Of Commons tonight. on
question of war estimates by vote OF 1872 to
1o5 A Cabinet Council has been SUNNI oned for
tomorrow Mr.. Campbell Bannernan. Secreta-
~ Of state for War. will offer 10 resign because
of the reduction by the House Of Commons Of the
vote for q supply Of small arms and ammunition.
A section Of the Liberals urge the Ministers TO
call a general party conference consider the
matter Of dissolvint Parliament.
Daring the lebaie on the war estimates. Will
lam St John Brodrick Conservative. member
FOR the Guildford Division Of Surrey. asked for
certain information in regard to the present sup
Fly Of small arms and ammunition.
Mr. Campbell Bannernan said that the esti
nate for small ample to render posi-
bic the mobilization of three army corps Of no.
600 men, with sufficient ammunition
Mr. Brodrick not satisfied with this
answer and moved that the salary Of the Secre
tary of State for War be reduced f1oo TO cover
what he alleged was a deficit in the Army
stores.
A. j. Balfour the Conservative leader in the
House. held that the vote asked for would not
provide proper supply of arms
Joseph Chamberlain the Liberal -Unionist lead
er said that the supply In hand was long way
behind what the japanese Army had when II took
the field
George J. Goschen. formerly Chancellor Of the
Exchequer said he concluded after listening TO
the debate that using the word reserve In its or
dnary sense. Great Britain had no reserve al all.
The division was then taken. The result sur
prised both sides. The Unionists leaped from
their seats cheering Mr.. Chamberlain seemed TO
dance in his excitement.
Mr. Campbell Bannerman Immediately moved
that the committee report progress on the esu-
mates which agreed to.
Mr.. Bafour asked if the Government proposed
to take up further business this evening
After some discussion. IL was eed to proceed
with the Naval Works bill.
After the house had again become calm the
lobbies were crowded with members discussing
the situation. The consensus OF opinion among
the Liberals was that the Government ought not
TO take the extreme step Of dissolving Parliament
on It's defeat in such minor matter.
In conversation. Mr.. Campbell Bannerman
said that the Government must find another
Secretary of State for War.
A Conservative whip replying 10 charges that
4, was trick division denied that there was any
stratasem He added that the Governments
defeat was the legitimate complement or n
ser3es Of incidents connected with War Office
nismanagement
Several Liberals including Sir Charles Dixie.
voted against the Government. In an Interview
Sir Charles said that he hoped the Government
would not take its defeat seriously |; might get
out Of the difficulty by putting back vote Tor
the Secretary Of Wars salary. Doubtless when
this was proposed the House would agree 70 H.
The Daily News" the Liberal organ VIII
say:
The news Of the defea, Of the Government is a
more than one point Of view. Mr. camp6se ~ i,'an- an
Signs his coiieagues viii resign also. II the Mn
sters decide continue in Office as they are aui's
naust be rescnded and the vote restored
The paper bitterly attacks Mr.. Brodrick and
concludes:
r9resne vii earn the suinsTy yD9 of npB9 the H9gs9
traitors would play trick Of this sort
The STANDARD Conservative will say:
The Home Rule Humpty Dumpty has tumble! .s,t al
last from lie comical position. A.! the WHIPS h'!s-s
anI all the whips men cannot pnt , hn N p pi1cr tor
again The Government may stick 20 once Dut ior
fbs sake OF the reputation of British satesnanshp
q may be hcpcl that the crisis Will end IN the early
announcement Of dissolution
The Daily Chronicle H-ibcraD. in its com
rnents tomorrow on the defeat Of the Govern
,nent will advocate "A meeting Of the party TO
decide whether the Minis'ry shall resign.
'The Times" the Tory organ. regards me
vote as well-rnerted condemnation or the
neglect and inefficiency Of the War once. IL
contends that the mos; proper course FOR the
Ministry Is TO resign II adds;
There absolutely nothing to he gained that
eel,-respsk.ing politician prize by gnomlnious-
Iy s,ruggllng post pOne longer the inevitable
dissolution OF Parliament.
All the morning papers sympathize with MT
Carnnbell- Rannernan who is genuinely popu-
lar
The Graphic" Conservative Will say that
II Is virtually impossible for the Government
longer to retain Office. 49,
"rha Morning Post" Conservative VIII say
that tho only course the Ministry can pursue
with dignity is 10 recognize the full effect OF the
vote and announce the dissolution or Parha-
ment with the least possible delay.