The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1895-07-19
Sound Moneys Advocate Replies with
Spirit to Harvey's Charges, and
II Literally Applauded.
COINS AUTHOR CRIES FRAUD
AND INSINUATES THAT STATESMEN.
AS A RULE, ARE CORRUPT.
In Answer to a Question He virtunily
Repudiates Statements in HIS
"Financial SCHOOL,

nit to-day IN the Horr-Haryey encounter.
Mr.. Horr opened up the sharp talk right
at the start. Said he: My opponent stated
Mr.. Horr has only taught in this debate
proposition that is In the interest of
every selfish money lender in the world to
advocate, and he is here advocating it, 1
say to my opponent now, am not a money
lender; / have not dollars interest in
any banking institution or American cor
poration, or any other corporation on the
face OF the earth. have spent my en-
tire life in working for living; all the
early part Of that life was spent in hard
work on a farm. 1 commenced work for
myself at SO month. There is hardly
any kind of hard manual labor in which
have not at some time in my life en-
gagged. consequently my sympathies are
with people who live by toll. I never meet
man digging in trench but what
feel like taking off my hat and saiuting
him, because once dug bitches for a
living. ! never meet a brakeman or a bag
gagemaster without feeling kindly towards
him. because for months l was a brake
man on a freight train, night and day,
and my first promotion to a baggage
master was one of the proudest moments
of my life. CApplause) / come into this
debate for the purpose of defending the
interests, as my friend will learn before
l finish ii, of the men who live by honest
toll. (Applause.) / do not think that a
man becomes scoundrel necessarily be-
cause he saves part of what he earns.
/ do not think it is anything against a
man If he even becomes stockholder in
a national bank. / am informed. Brother
Harvey, that your father is fortunate
enough to own stock in the Kanawha Ma
tional Bank, am right about that?''
Mr.. Horr-Did he ever?
Mr. Harvey-He never did.
Mr. Horr-Well it would not hurt him
if he had would 1t?
Mr.. Harvey-No, sir.
Mr. Horr-He could own stock in the
bank and still be honorable. couldn't he?
Mr.. Horr-A man could be successful in
life without creating in me any spirit of
envy. l have learned that men who ac-
ing up great industries for the benefit of
the people who earn wages, bless this Ma
tion; and any system which Injuries them
necessarily injuries the people who live by
daily toll. Consequently / am just as zeal
Gus In my efforts to prevent financial
as / am to see to it that the wages of the
workingmen are not cut in two by using
debased and deprecated measure of
unit of measure. the value of it, into two
pieces. and make them take the half for
the whole, you have injured them in a
way that is beyond computation.
HARVEY DIDN'T MEAN 1T.
Mr. Harvey-I did not mean to criticise
Mr.. Horr personally. That he was an ad-
vocate of a perncious principle did not
mean that Mr.. Horr himself was a bad
man. This great question is not going TO
be decided by the American people by any
advocate parading himself before them as
having been horny-fsted workingman at
one time in his life. Qong continued ap-
plause) do not object to Mr.. Horr giving
the evolution Of his life. l do think it
was little unfair to have omitted that in
that evolution he finally became a bank
president. / do not deny that Mr.. Horr
and numerous selfish bank presidents have
at one time been tillers of the soil.
Mr.. Horr-In reference to my having
been bank president. 1 omitted it not be-
cause / was ashamed of the fact. 1t is true
that at one time had saved what We in
competency, and was president of a ma
tional bank. In the crash of 1873 / went
down; what had saved was swept away
Of the bank i resigned, but did not steal
any money of the bank; not a dollar. 1
went into the world again, single-handed.
and went to work, and while putting in
logs in the northern part of Michigan
there. served six years of my life, and did
the hardest work ever 1 did during those
six years. / came out of Congress just as
poor as went in; could not come out any
poorer; It was an impossbiiity. Gaugh,,
have stated that the money question has
given me the headache. Oaughter) / did
study a of the Que question that made mx mxs bead
ache, not writing such stuff as in this
book. That would not give any man the
Mr.. Horr continued to argue: ''The act
of 1873 was prepared after submitting the
question to large number of experts all
revision of the mint laws for a number of
years. and the men in charge of the mint
thought the time had come when something
should be done. Among the men consulted
on the question was Mr.. Boutwell,. secre-
tary OF the Treasury; Mr.. Knox, Deputy
Controller Of the Currency; Mr.. Linderman,
intendent of the mint at Philadelphia and
my friend here intimates that this must
have been wicked because II was hitched
is where il belonged. That was the place
to put it. The bill, with the correspond
ence, was submitted to Congress in the
report from Mr.. Knox, which explained all
its provisions. Thousands of copies of the
bill were sent broadcast TO all parts OF the
number Of July 1870 printed this report Of
Mr.. Knox and commented on the same.
The bill prepared By Mr.. Knox was in
ury, and transmitted to the Senate April 2,
1870. The bill; as II was at the time drafted.
dropped the dollar silver coin of the United
States and changed the unit OF value. That
was In the original bill as II was sent to
the Senate with letter from the Secretary.
Now. nobody tried to cover up that fact.
In this report Of Mr.. Knox were found all
the letters of these different experts to
whom had been sent draft Of the bill, and
who had been asked for their opinion upon
IL. These letters were all printed by order of
the Secretary in connection with the care
fully prepared report of Mr.. Knox"
Mr. Harvey-Mr Horr. permit me. Have
you copy of those letters with you?
Mr. Horr-I have not them here to-day
but / have them IN the city. / think.
Mr.. Harvey-Will you produce them dur
ing the debate?
KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT
Mr. Horr-I will. If have them: L don't
know whether I brought them with me-
but l think / did. Mr.. Patterson wrote to
Mr.. Knox. and his letter was printed in the
public documents. l will say 10 this house
that every single document have referred
to I copied from the books of the govern
ment in the city OF Washington myself, in
dlvidually. So know what I am talking
about. Mr.. Patterson said: The silver dol
lar, half, dime and three-cent piece are
dispensed with by this amendment Gold
becomes the standard money, of which the
gold dollar is the unit Silver Is subsidiary
embracing coins from the dime 10 half
dollar" Can anything be more plain than
that? Was there any covering up OF any
thing in that letter.
Mr. the Of &c On.