New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1895-05-05
r. j. H0RNER g. CO.

K. y. hORNEK O. w.
.-Rocausc wanted them TO see that there was
nothing in it about collections; g.. ,.s
collection book Al dlah kny" Collections FOR
d to you f, 1a,.a amendment? A"No There
had been talk about thai, -, ..,.. .,.- 90 s,o,y
Senator oConnor why ~oui s%" Pl'' Won d,do
mink they meant collections Tor a corrupt Pur-
pose? Al tore out leaves as used them. There
"@s n4hns 70 Go G yon Tear leaves out OF the
book? Al can't say
Mr.. Root hammered away AT the witness until
Koran said ne had torn nj rasl I,"' r"N'. 80, ~,
the DOCK since IL was ioNnu pS ,"' ,''n ~ ali
torr our l'"''S W''" ny az ,n ,r.. q M
p''"",, VIZ, - W ,hr ,..,so,
p,,,'tin, rbicf Edward f. croker called hy
We p,inns t.eiinod fhaf T.. knew II NO collec-
lion Of money among the officers. except the 81
monthly tax He told about the meeting WITH
Battalion chief shaw ara the Iaig ~ pnlS
chief McCabc AZ ltoadWhN anu I'M - il"-F'
on March !, and the Introduction OF p'h'"'
L'"iy ny "cN'o'
"iSn r nn. had Shsfsc Of he oiisers amcndmcn
to the salary hl. and that ne probably ~onld do
nn,ac a. have he amnnImrnt carried through
h,,3 near g,r me Morton iiionsc
O-'roil the committee the nature OF the CONVEX
s sag he "e ecnd give written suafantce ,ha' the
blil would pass ana would be signed BY the Cover
nor re sall ~ MI" r., IL nncassary sum ,,ouid
be abou, $1,000 That was about the substance u
me ,hst "M NO. w0d Consider the matter AMI c, nm
Know about il later We talked over The affair and.
as a result agreed TO have nothing 70 do with him
ODD You see Iearv again? A-Chief shaw
promised to him again. and We met nm again
about March or .. Tho. chief shaw told him ne
would do nothing for him? A-ies. what ,i t2'a
you IS About the ss skn1 90 ,S other ocers about
the matter. but let the whole subject "fop
CHIEF 'i''N'''' '.'.'
Ia GRANGE
Q.-werc YOU brought into contact WIN 'o'nn's
sioner La Grange Ayes. ami n" asked M "hA'
G ,,,o', and I ,old him knew nothing about It
,'S ,,o Uo also asked me if had contributed
"'"''N''' i'' o. ,,. ar,,,1v who had given
money myself or hh'" ""S"o.' VIM W
money ana ! ,',u nun ", nor ,nn,h y,hich
him mat the oo'"' -
had been maze upon '"r o'''. ~, ""' '' 80" ~"
poses OF the TWO per cent tax Dill
Odd Commissioner La Grange say TO you
that money had been raised by the officers and had
been placed in the bank and that YOU were aware
of il? A.-No. sir. ,t, .,o
Q.-Then the statement 49, i'' ~
Commissioner made Is a m. H., 11.n,,,, ,,r,pcls
,a?ne W ,a as' not mentioned n the conversation.
nan" n D,| Wc(,ab. sneak about the Investigation
ehSrtlv before his death? Ale askcI If there
was anything in the charge. ana sild hY'nnS
mat KIN" % ,. .D,r Nicr,Le had tod the
'oniin @loh', ma AL yni last talk with McCabe
.ni. ~ ~, IN tho lav before his death.
o-Was leary a lobbyist A.-McCabe said ne
a lobbyist. - -, ,uo
Q.-Nnai hai you h'di' a"'u. - man, ., rho
| naI heaii iAdt tn'i lin hn, dlJ not know who
| flroInen SaIaIeS D'.,' t Du' ~ 49,
"'i w., 1H1 Wccahe .av abou, MI Pawn? Al
| ,bfrk I. vas lnarv who SAID payn had charge oi
| he hill al Albany and couldn't get II passed ana
| couldn't get any bill Of any klnd IasSrp Gun,
q W u! Wa 10, a; 4, I,at, did have charge Of tho
| pos NJ meant ma '"' ~
| O-Dld YOU know Payr had charge or the biI'
| A.-NO .r,, T
| ,hQo,ct w ia" a. VS. Us EYt for a strike"
thonsnt ne Was o Qua ~ iearvY Ave told him
| ,, -,',iG 500, uhat couli be done in the matter
W. VIA, was expected TO be in the matter?
| .FUe wanted his proposition laid before me ON
cers Association. There was to De neG' ,reb q
and i, was UNDERSTOOD that shaw would speak OF
Leary "oPoS''o"'
Croker said that on me Hua"'s 81. nnrc,jnc
iowhH .,,r M, Mccahe and shaw At that meeting
| shaw said he had talked with some other ohicefs.
and the Legislative Commute "a Wv ,,s ,h' h,i
had charge ~ all matters '"iI'' ~ ,b.,,,e,
| and the matter had gone 70" iaI ~ , ,l' ,h go.
At the first meeting the time ana pi"0c - -" '
| ond meeting were agreed on
| Witness said he had no opinion hS - o''.m
faiure 10 make a reference II the Sccpnu me- NE
when ne was on the witncss-srand. shaw had
| inId him ahnut The letter 10 Leary. At m" con
clusion Of Crokcr's testimony the committee 700"
| n recess for AN hour
| After the recess Foreman stephen CaIt",gh''
of Hook and Ladder Company No. T. 'rsa''''u ''."'
lbs had not attended a i''''l's -, ,,,r hal nail
ISOLATION since last AuBun, a." Itn uos ,tck Al
money 10 Influence legislation ~, VIZ '.'N , ~
his home ON March -, h" snid, ana f"''"'' ~
gerald v.nr IN scc INN about departm"nt matters
h,'"I" VIZ ~, ~ h,I talked with Fitzgerald
fi..tg a..