Morning journal and courier., 1894-06-12
NEWS BY TELEGRAPH.
 From All Quarters. HAVEMEYER MET BRICE They Talked of the Tariff to
 be Placed on Sugar
 sLIVIA WAS NO MATCH FOR CRAIG He Was Dragged From the Ring in the Second Round OXFORD GIVES RULES FOR YALE Expenses or Losses Must be
 Shared Equally
HAVEMEYER MET BRICE
sLtVIA WAS NO MATCH FOR CRAIG
OXFORD GIVES RULES FOR YALE

| IA DCu6CS VI AOCOCO III uSO Ut Shared Equally SENATOR BRYCE WAS SEEN.
 He Sent for MT. Havemeyer of the su. ! gar Trust and Talked over the Rates
 With Him-An Independent RefneI
 Testifies Before the Committee. | WASHINGTON, June 11.-Senator Caffery
 of Louisiana to day made @ statement be-
 fore the sugar trust investigation commit
 tee with reference to a remark in the testi-
 mony given by him. II was requested to
 ee Mir. Havemeyer, who happened to be
 the house." he had said in telling of @
 visit to Senator Brice at his residence. In
 correcting any false impression that may
 have arisen from this MT. Caffrey said:
 "Prior to seeing Mir. Havemeysr there was
 a discussion between those present and
 Senator White and myself as to the comparative merits of the sd
 valorem and specific rates of duty on | sugar. There was @ good deal of difference of opinion on this point and Senator Brice stated that there was gentleman at the l Arlington hotel, who ought to know more about the operation of any rate of duty on sugar than, perhaps, any other man In the United States. That man was Mr. Have | meyer. Senator Brice desired to know if l had any objection to meeting MT. Have meyer and having @ discussion with him l on this point. told him I had not" Senator Csffrey then stated that Senator Brice sent for Mr. Hsvemeyer and he (Caffrsy) and MT. HsveI ST discussed the question of ad vslorem and specific rates by themselves in MT. Brics's library. Only one witness was examined by the committee to day. He Is Henry B. Reed of Bcstop, the sugar refiner. He Is mem Der of the firm of Nash, Spaulding and company, sugar importers, and one of the owners of the Revere Sugar refinery, an Independent company not connected with the trust, but the competitor of 1t, to quote MT. Reed. The witness told the committee he had not been to Washington In conneo- tion with the business of the trust. ''I am not 8 member of the trust," he said, Thor in their counsel or confidence. have been before the committee in my interest only. No other"
 He had been here many times since Feb rusry and had seen several senators In re- gard to the sugar interest. He had called on Senators McPherson, Voorhees,, Jones, Brice, Aldrich and Plstt.
 "Whst was the subject of the conversa- tion and what was the line of communica. tion between you and them, 80 far ss this legislation is concerned2" asked Chairman Gray.
 ''So far ss this legislation Is concerned" said MT. Reed, "I should say, so far ss this schedule is concerned, and have had no consultation on any other subjsct, having I,~k ty,f II ah0 f La l more conversation with Senator Jones than any other, for the reason that when I first called on him he asked me great many questions. He asked for fscts and figures. I got them for him from our own books and gave him facts and figures relat- ing to the business, of very confidential nature, and gave them to him that he might form his own judgment" Mir. Reed said he had never contributed to any political party to further legisla- ton. He had been a frequent visitor to membered meeting Senator Brice there on one or two occasions and Senator Smith once.
 The witness told the committee that he had not discussed any plan with the mem- bers of the sugar trust, nor with any body else, to be pursued with reference to the tariff bill. He had talked with members of the sugar trust about the bill, and the substance of the conversations was a unanimity of opinion that if the sugar schedule was not improved the re6ners would have to en- gage in some other business. He had no means of knowing whether any senator had speculated in sugar stocks during the last two or three months. and he had never advised any senator or member of the houss to buy any stock nor been approached by any senator asking that stock bs bought or sold for him. MT. Reed said he did not know of any contributions made by the American Sugar Refining company or any refining interests to the campaign fund of | the republicans or the democrats in 1899 or | the interest of the refining business Mir. Resd's testimony continued at length bearing upon the process and cost Of retin- | ing sugar. He said he had been in the ! sugar business all his life. He was unable | to tell what portion of every hundred dol lars of benefit arising to the refining inter ests through the system of taxation to-day
 goes to the lsborer, and would not under
 take to say that he could give that informs- tion. His evidence also brought out the
 statement that there are about ,500 hold
 CTS of American Sugar Refining company
 stock in New England. The remainder of the stock is held all over the country, Mir.
 Reed presumed. He did not know. In
 1890 he had conferred with senators on ths ! eugar question and mentioned MT. Aldrich.
 who was his friend of many years, as among the number and who had knowledge of the
 needs of the re1ners, because his business
 in early life made him thoroughly convsr-
 sant with the business.
 Responding to questions about the in
 crease to thirty five millions of the Ameri.
 can company's stock which witness though; 1 was somewhere early in 1892 the witnes!
 the press of that circumstance: "Newsps
 per notices with regard to the sugar refn
 ing business have been very numerous fol l long time. There has been more misin
 formation and misrepresentation in regard
 to it than in regard to anything else ever
 knew"
 He further testified that the product oi
 the American Sugar Raining company il
 sold principally in New England and chief
 ly to retailers in small lots, the object be
 ing to control 80 far ss they are able thu home trade That their aim was to sel principally to England the witness em phasized repeatedly. Senator Allen asked ''Do you know of any senator or represen
 tative in congress or any officer who own any sugar properties, stocks or bonds, O.
 is stockholder in any of these com
 psniesG''
 Mir. Rsed-I have no knowledge upor
 the subject.
 MT. Allen-Ard have no means of ascer
 taining2
 Mir. Reed-None that know of.
 MT. Allen-Do you know of any sucl
 senator or representative who is or ha | been the counsel of these companies or an
 of them under pay from the companies fo
 their services?
 MT. Reed-I do not.
 ! Mr. Allen-You have no means of know ) ina9
 MT. Reed-I have not. I can only say , have never employed any and never de sired to.
 The committee meets again to morrow.
 MAYOR SARGENT PRESENT..
 He Made . Speech at the Opening c