New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-08-28
MR.. PULLMAN ON THE STAND
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10 the strike committee?" inquired the chair
man.
They were not. because the men made no ef-
fort TO them"
1T has been stated publicly. very freely, that
you were approached by the strikers, who looked
for a settlement OF the troubles ana 'hat you
said you had nothing to arbitrate
II did not use exactly those words. may nave
told them something of the sort.
Judge Worthington asked II the Pullman Lana
Association separate corporation from the
Pullman Car Company.
Mr.; Pullman replied that 1t was entre.y SO, so,
the town was 6uilt and the improvements
thereon. The stockholders Of the two companies
were about the same. There was however no
community OF interest.
do the same parties control the Pullman Land
Association and the Pullman Car Company?
There is control They own all the STOCK
Of the land corporation. that they are prac.
ticay one. The average increase OF the capital
stock OF The company has been Sl.O00.ooo
year One year 1t increased 5000 600 There are
about 4 200 actual stockholders When the COM
pany was established the capital stock was
81 OOOO 900 and the other s35 OOO 600 represents cash
actually paid in. The individual profits have
been S25 900 900. There has never been any stock
watered. any extra dividend paid"
Can You tell approximately the total amount
Of dividends declared?"
81 cannot now, but will do So"
can YOU tell the amount OF wages paid the
men since the formation of the company"
Wages have amounted to s32.s47924 For ma
terials we have paid out in that time $4,000 ooo
No EFFORTS AT
Mr.. Pullman then related his experience as an
inventor and protector Of the modern sleeping
car. Under questioning by Judge Worthngton
he made the following statement:
'The profits fell off nearly $500 900 in the month
| Of August alone last year, compared with the
same month in 1892 As to the reduction of
wages ! shall have to refer you 10 the people
who had that matter in charge. ] do not remen-
Der of any efforts at arbitration made by the
Pullman company. | expressed myself as de-
cidedly opposed 10 arbitration
do you not think 1t would have been right.
Mr.. Pullman. for company making as much
money as the Pullman company has. which last
year declared dividend Of g. 10000 to have In
some measure shared its profits with the en-
plcycs at Putnam
The manufacturing department OF Pullman Is
entirely separate from any other department
Of the company. The manufacturing department
was losing money. and see no reason why we
should. simply because the company was pros
porous raise the wages In a particular depart
ment which was losing money.
HAS the company ever in years Of unusual
prosperity increased the wages Of its employees?
at has not"
what did YOU see that was so objectionable
in submitting 20 a third party the question
whether you should raise the wages Of your en-
| poyes not"
II refer YOU 10 my written statement which
declares In effect. am able II manage my own
| business | still think that. after twenty-seven
| years Of experience am better able to tell the
party"
NO REASON FOR SHARING PROFITS
| "Do YOU not think Il would have been Just to
| have divided with these employees little while
| SO as to give them at least fair living wages?
81 d. not. 7 would have amounted 70 gift
81 money to these mcr. It was simply matter
| Of business The company AMI the men had "a
mako a mutual sacrifice. The men were required
| to work harder while the company lost money
| on contracts ,, -.
| railroads In regard To resisting the strikers
| Judge Worthington read a COPY - the Pullman
lease which requires the tenant - DO all the re-
| poIring. Now this is not true is it,
| Mr. Pullman seemed embarrassed He SAID the
! Pullman companye repaired m" roofs. H. kne"
| chat much bur H. could not say as - othcT To-
| pairs Tho lease also provided that in cas-" inc
| ,n,n. did not max. these repairs an amount IF
| moncy sufIiclcn' t. 30 the work should b" d.,
Quoted from his wages. also mat ms r'n' ,'u'u
| he deducted from his wages. When Mr. fullular
| ho,rl All these statements read. he declared that
| ne could not swear to that lease as Pullman
| lease Mr. Doty. the acting Pullman landlord
81 ,binls The American Railway Union was the
cause OF the trouble at Pullman continued th'
| witness I'VE Will retain no man III our "'ipIuy
| who is n member Of the American RailwhS
! Were rents reduced whom wages went down
IT,, wcre not So llttic income was coming
from rents that we could not afford 10 reduce
| them further. Al,
"Werr your wages and those Of the other
officers u the company reduced?
They were not
why was this not DONE
| well II the wages ~ the superior oilc"rs were
reduced they might have quiz us
| second VIc.-Presiieut Thomas II. Wickes thei
took the stand and supplied tho details "hlcH
Mr. Pullman had been unable To- give using "
| bulky typewriter document. II" saih many
| statements made by the strikers were ho' Iue
| lie declared that the statements IN regard u
| wages were In nearly all cases false re SUD
! rnitted table taken from the books which snow
| a rate NJ wages much higher than those SUD
| nittcd by Mr. H"athcoie Mr.. Rhode ana oth"r'
| In these particular cases. Instead "i maKh1
| money Ike wafer Mr. Wickes sald, IN" company
| los, 500 900 monthly.
Tho examination Of Mr.. Wick"s VIII be con
| tinucd tomorrow.