The representative. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1893-1901, 1894-10-24

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Mr.. Diment It mas stated by Mr.. Ham
then merely as q lnaster of gossip? Mr.
A. I am sorry to sag | don't know ex-
cept as 1t came to me that Mr. Stone had
made the statemeAt t8 Mr.. Ham and he
informed me of thd statement There
was no offer maee 81 me of it, except
as a matter of INFORMATION or news. He
said Stone said ifne2,9oD or 5000 was any
object you can get it,,
Mr.. Hompe. l would like to know if
this is the Stoneh~hdI wrote the article
antagonistic to Mr2 iSahn?
l. A. l think it is the same party
c. B. Buchanan ealief and sworn.
Examined by N1hiI Smith.
Q. You are a mefnbsE of the senate?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Please inform the committee whether
you know of any member of the house.
whether any member of the house has
been paid or offered money or any other
valuable consideration by either of the
senatorial candidates, their agents or any
other person with view to influence their
votes for the United States senatorship
prior to the caucus?
A. l do not know only through hearsay.
If the gentleman will allow me to ex-
plain in my own way, l know something
about the matter before you.
a
questions Are you acquainted with w.
r. Estes?
A. l am
Q. Have you had any talk with him
on the sena torial question before the eau
Gus?
ey? nave ''' e'@' O''e'e' "'''' any HUI
A. No, sir.
Q. Have you ever offered him $1,000 to
vote for Mr.. Sabn?
A. No, any other man.
O. Ever offered him $4,000?
A No. sir
The chairman: You can go on now and
reply to the other question.
A. When / came for the senatorial fight,
l occupied Room IS at Merchants Hotel.
Mr.. Crosby occupied Room "a. These
rooms are together, opening one into the
other. The day before Mr.. Estes with
drew from the speakership, the afternoon
before he withdrew, he came to our room,
first into "a. and we talked a moment and
then stepped into %; then we discussed the
speakership fight. l asked him to support
Mr. Graves; also asked him if he would
support Mr. Sabin. He told me he had
been offered $1,000, and asked if we could
make it any object to support our candi-
date. l told him we could not; Mr.. Sabin
had no money to put into the campaign.
He talked few minutes after this and
then left the room.
Witness here excused.
A. NJ. Crosby called and sworn.
Examined by Mr. Smith
=. Where is your residence?
A. L.uverne, Minnesota
Q. Did you hear the conversation said to
have taken place between Senator Buck
man and Mr.. Estes either in his room or
your room on the day that Mr.. Estes with
drew from the speakership-the day be-
fore?
A. I heard a conversat ton
y. Please state what that converse ton
was?
A. Exactly I cannot give. You mean
a few days before he withdrew. They dis
cuSsed the situation to the speakership
question and the senatorial question, and
Mr. buchanan was trying to persuade Mr.
ESTES to Withdraw and, give his support to
Mr.. Graves. They we're in my room, and
they then stepped into the room next ad-
Joining mine and had some converse ton
sat there in my room, and of course |
heard more or less of the conversation.
u Please tell what you heard?
"A. heard Mr.. Estes make the remark
mat he had had Inducements held out to
NAN, and wanted to know what Mr. Buck
man could do Buchanan said what induce
ments? Mr.. Estes told him there were
various inducements, among others So. 600
u For What2 n al
A. Nothing was said for what: it was in
the conversation '0'e'
Mr.. Diment: Did he's say he offered the
So, 900? ~
"A. He did not. HE, wanted to know if
Mr. buchanan could meet it. Mr. Buchanan
told him he was not running that sort of
campaign. .i