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The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Mrs. s. F. Crosson. DsLamar's post
mistress, left yesterday msrning for
San Francisco to visit the fair. She has
worked hard enough for the past year
to have earned this recreation, and the
NUaaET wishes her most pleasant trip.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

There was a baby born in Muir on
the 9th instant, but a. the family could
only have read the birth notice in
borrowed copy OF this paper, no an
nouDcement Of the event was made.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Sam WhittenberR has rented the
Palmer ranch in Pleasant valley and
will remove there soon.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

The DeLamar Company shipped this
week seven bars Of bullion valued at
$l9,S00.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Miners continue to drop in here every
day looking for work. Better stay
away little longer.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Isidor Mayer, Caldwell's prospsroul
merchant, has been rustling trade and
making collection hers this week.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

The stock men ell over tho county re-
port fine feed on the ranges now. The
losses during the winter were very
light.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14
SHORT STOPS.

Salmon are running in Louise creek
Get your guns.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Manager Brooks, Of the Commercial
Company went out to Boise yesterday.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

Mr.. Oliver, Of HALEY, is here looking
after mining properties bonded by
HALEY parties. and will begin develop
ment work a. soon ss practicable.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

TheD. M. 8 b. Co. having sold
out business here, HI. w. Dor
man will remain in DeLamar :
few days to close unsettled ac-
counts. All accounts must be set
tied without delay. COSTS.
WILL BE sAyEDBY PAYING
ATTENTION TO THIS NOTICE
AT ONCE.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

AAsivAI AND DIP. o. xAus
ARRIVE.
PROM NAmpa M. From Silver City. 10 An
From Jordan Valley, IL n.
DEPART
TO NAmpa. 500 A. n To silverCttv 8.s0 + =
To Jordan Valley. 1880 TX
sTowine to the early departure Of The
stare for Nampa all mail muat be In tho Of
dee BY O'Clock =. X, in order to 70 out the
following morning.
MRS. SARAH F. EROSION. postmistress.
The DeLamar nugget. [volume] (DeLamar, Idaho) 1891-1900, 1894-04-14

sampaon's stare Lime.
LEAVE. AlRIvE
ullser City 7ssoA u. DsLamar 900 (. +.
DO. 400 IN. do $50 p r.
peL1mar 10O0A. silver City II 90 4. II.
DO. R:O0P. do. 7:0P.n
H4mpa stare At Boonvillss
Every day In the week.
soapAx vALLlr kAR
xRAyR. AHRIvf.
psLamar $50 \. Jordan Valley l2:po \.
Sundays excepted
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

A Rochester, N. T., physician tells
about a patient that he had, not long
since, who poisoned herself by drink
ing vinegar. She began to use 1t to Inn
prove her complexion, but SOC grew to
like it, and after a time it became .
necessity to her. As the habit grew she
got stronger and stronger grades, until
she was daily consuming large quanti-
ties Of almost pure acetic acid. When
he was called to attend her it was a
long time before he could make up his
mind what was the matter with her.
Her complexion was Of a deadly white,
she had 40 appetite, and could hardly
be persuaded to touch food of any sort.
-Four eminent physicians, who were
called in consultation, failed to dag
nose the real cause Of the trouble, but
attributed the lady's condition, one to
one thing and another to another. FL
nally the attendant physician, through
the lady's servant, found out the real
root Of the trouble, but too late to do
his patient any good. He said this was
the only case in his experience Of a per-
sons forming a vinegar habit, but he
was persuaded that a good deal Of the
Ill health Of many ladies' was due to
their using too much vinegar, with the
idea that 1t would improve their looks.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
END CAME SUDDENLY
MRS. JOHN w. NOBLE, WIFE OF THE
Ex-sECRETARY, IS DEAD.
She IL Seized With n Painting Spell
While Chatting With Friends in
Her Dining Room and Expires
Almost Immediately.

Washington, March 19-Mrs. John w.
Noble, wife of ex-Presidcnt Ilarrison's
secretary of the iaterirr, died suddenly at
her home in this city yesterday. the end
of life came to her while standing in her
d. ming room chatting with female friends
and waiting for Gen. Noble, who had
STEPPED from the room to call u carriage
for Il drive. She complained suddenly Of
dizziness, her maid caught her as she
was falling, and before she could be
taken to a couch she was dead. The
cause of death was organic heart dis
ease, regarding which she had been
warned by eminent ply %sicions, and of
which disease both her parents died. Mrs.
Noble was Miss Elizabeth Halstaad, and
daughter Of Rev. DR.. Halstead of North
alnpton, Mass. She was tifty-six years
of age, having been born in June, 1887.
She was one of. six children, all the rest
being still alive. She met Gen. Noble
while on a visit to Ketkuk, Iowa, where
he, then q soldier, was stationed, early
in. the late war. They were married Feb.
6. 1864, and during the remaining days
of the contest she was at the front with
her husband, seeing service around Chat
tanooga and Memphis. After the war
she came to st. Louis with Gen. Noble,
and here they have since lived, except
during her husbands term as secretary
of the interior. She lea:.s no children,
two born to her ha ring died early. Mrs.
Noble has been a leader during her life
in this city in charitable work and move
Llen for the advancement 1t her sex.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Mclean ea9Go umy offers the most advaMageSin du~msnsto ~Ms int hm%s s%ck1aMng3 ranges its
mndsteg good timber and fine clay for bckmakmg can be found in many localities NrMghoutt the
county Thep oucGvaaso hes sole fNcL@n County WILDE readily appreciated when it stated that the
yd of 1892 avagdm wheat 8HbhaspH a acre. OATS sol bushels per acre. barley Ow4 bushels hhX
bushels potatoes $50 bushels cn about 40 mhMa and other cereals and wgeMsm the same proper
&na and that failure oc corps here has nrb been known
Mclean County sno railroad runnMgd et ythrWght but eman line of the 500 road crosses the
corner and heB mmar &Hanknsn branch ofMe@ Hew which, gr6dn into Bismarck has sheen
1894. Thee county has eighteen new public @hods all supplied with ole and expmnmdt ahMs and neatly
school houses hsf furnishing ample educational advantages
big Bend heNMsoudI River; cmmandgan an xcMant view dtherver for several miles sin each direction
it lis situated only Om miles from mnmk,h thee Capital fheS State ofNorh Dakota
.Wahbuns the enMpntt to section ountye quail in area that ofe New England States All mail
TampordonH n.dvsge from here andnh em most importantly point heI Bismarck, Washbun and Coal
Packet Lines the dMtrbutngp 0t for four Mail Routes Twos eamhoaM are plying on the river
are dog appftabeb bushes
CoAL HARBoR, another important wnnt 1.-THE county is shuatd25 smiles norh Of WaMmru and is
e%s T" aM n Gm" m go mGu % MMn gmm 4 a aS%k n SMMgs@ uoMm !n esMe ..
courthouse and Ila and $4,000 cash h hand amounGngt to 5O75T henrasda area of the omv
large reduction taxes
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Unfortunate Events.


James Ryan. a section hand, was ia
tally hurt by an Illinois Central train
Mt Chestnut, Ill.
Michael. Altifilish and John Kegler,
1%5-year-old boys, drowned while
crossing the river at Bellevue. Iowa.
Eugene Cartier, a wealthy farmer OF
Alliance, Ohio, IS years old, was
thrown from his carriage and killed.
Samuel Theodore. manager for the
Standard Oil Company in Council
Bluffs, Iowa, died from an overdose OF
morphine.
A stage coach at the San Francisco
Midwinter Fair was overturned n
fourteen persons, all fair employees,
were injured.
Reports received from RoncaGor Reef
the scene of the wreck of the kear
sarge are to the effect that nothing re-
mains Of the old vessel but the hull.
Can't. Evans life-saving crew at
Louisville, Ky. rescued three medical
students from death yesterday in the
Ohio River.
A bottle of explosives was thrown In
to the Italian saloon and bank Of An
cello de Leo at New York. The build
ing was badly wrecked. by the explo-
sion.
Charles Hawkins. of Durand, ILL.,,
was instantly killed while out duck
hunting. He was pulling the gun from
a boat. He leaves an invalid widow
| and three children.
The wreck of the Alaska schooner
! Mary Brown. the fate of which has
been a mystery, has been found on
| Graham Island, B. G. All hands were
probably lost.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Sins and Sinners.

Emma Managers, 10 years old. COM
mittel suicide at Raymond, Illinois, by
taking poison.
Clarence Williams. a colored boy
Swanted at Memphis, Tenn. for murder,
was arrested at Lincoln, Ill.
Jealous Williams Donaldson, near
Champaign. ILL.,, attacked his rival with
a brick and then killed himself.
Bert Easement, n travelling salesman,
died at Youngstown, Ohio, from an
overdose of morphine.
Mrs. Emma Managers, of Raymond,
Illinois, committed suicide at Hillsboro,
Illinois by taking poison. No cause is
known for her crime.
The city council at Paris, Illinois, has
offered a reward of 5000 for the cap
ture Of the murderer of Max Black
burn.
six shooter Bill" and Jake Lester.
awaiting trial for burglary. broke jail
ut Fort Collins, Colorado. They were
recaptured.
Blood has been spilled in the Enid,
Oklahoma municipal war, although no
one has been killed. A pitched battle
is said to be imminent.
j. j. Sanders, alias Seth Rogers, was
arrested by a United States marshal at
Jackson. Miss, charged with fraudulent
application for a pension.
J. K. Stratton, a criminal for whom
the police Of many cities have been
searching, has been located in the pris-
OF. at Huntsville, Texas.
Charles Deming and Frank st. John
have been captured In Michigan,
charged with a~ssaulting James Cobb at
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Washington Gossip.

The senate tables the resolution for
an investigation of the report that
senator's had specialized in sugar.
A resolution is prepared and will be
presented to the house authorizing the
government to sue the Union Pacific
for S4,00O,OOO.
Commissioner LOchren issues an or
der restoring to the pension rolls be-
tween 5000 and 1000 names which
have been suspended.
United States Supreme Court Justice
White of Louisiana was indicted into
office. and Mr.. Blanchard was sworn
in as his successor in the senate.
About $ 100000 Of the new 5 per
cent. bonds have already been deposit
cd with the controller as security for
circulating notes.
The controller Of the currency named
the Second National Bank Of Boston
as reserve agent for the First National
of Duluth and the National German
American Of st. Paul for the Capital
National of Bismarck.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Cxclone I'm Texas.

Longview, Tex, March ia cyclone
swept over this place at / o'clock this
morning accompanied by hail stones of
immense size. The greatest fury was
six miles east of here, where it struck
the large country home of John Cain,
lately occupied by a large family of ne
groes. The house was in an ancient
grove of oaks, twenty in number. Every
one of them was uprooted and piled up
in terrible confusion with dead fowls,
dogs and cows. and five dead and eight
badly wounded negroes. Old man Alex
ander Lester was found fifty yards away
entirely nude and dead. His old wife
Sarah was pinned under a tree, mangled
and dead. Alexander Lester, Jr., was
mangled and is dead. Robert Lester,
nine years old was found near q tree
without a mark of violence, dead. Jas
per Collins was pinned under a large
tee snugly covered in bed with his head
crushed and limbs broken, dead. Sew
eral other men were fatally injured.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
HIS NARROW ESCAPE.
THRILLING EXPERIENCE OF A CAR
PEWTER IN CHICAGO.
He Slides From the Roof of mn Ele-
vator But Catches ON n Wall Plate
He Is Rescued by IL Fellow Work.
man, When Both Fail I'm a Faint.

10 AAC0CuGu vi IL rCk1OVV w OEAe
man, When Both Fail In a Faint.
Chicago, March 19.-People in the VI
cinity of Il new grain elevator in process
IF erection at South Chicago We're hor-
rilied to sce Joseph Coates, a carpt inter-,
slip on the roof and slide rapidly to the
edge. AS he was going over the edge
Coates gal led o wall plate with his
right hand and hung to it, his holly being
suspended at a height of 100 feet. Contes'
eight fellow workmcn were paralyzcd
with fright, and Two of them tainted.
Others soon recovered their sens,s and
set about to rescue the m:n. All tins
time Coates was crying out to those in
sound If his voice to save him. In the
course of a few seconds the horror
stricken watchers on the bridge below
saw a man appear at q window, and be-
FIND him were several other men. The
first conner leaned far out until it seemed
as If he would tumble headlong from tho
Ecle, but strong hands and a stout rope
about his body held him securely willie
he reached out and grasped the man
fsfrgirg from the wall plate and suc-
ceeded in getting him to the window
ledge. Then with an almost superhuman
effort, both men were dragged through the
window by the rescuers inside. The res
cued man, when he found himself saved,
fell over i'll a dead faint, and the res
cuer, William Jones, another carpenter,
collapsed completely. Coates, when he
finally revived was in such O nery-
GUS condition that he had to be assisted
home by two of his fellow workmen.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Contracts Signed.

Minneapolis, March 19.-An the con-
tire cts in the big pima land t.ansfer to the
syndicate of Minneapolis lumber manu-
facturers have been signed. This i'm
pcrtant work having been completed. the
next thing in order is tile organization
and incorporation of the syndicate. This
wi. take place in the next thirty days.
The object of tie syndicate is simply to
carry on a logging business for the bene-
fit of the Minneapolis mills. The pur-
pose Of the new organization is accom-
plisbed as soon as the logs are turned into
the boom limits ut Braincrd. Heie they
are to be divided and distributed to the
various companies il. the recent deal.
The plans for the seasons work and the
extension of the lumber railroad to Leech
lake will not be taken up until the or
ganization is completed. The companies
comprising the syndicate are not all
equal owners, but nearly SO.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Valparaiso, Ind. and robbing him of

Valparaiso, Ind. and robbing him of
500.
James H. Britton, cx-mayor of st.
Louis, was arrested on Il warrant
charging him with cmbczzling $2,4O0
from the First National bank of Yer
non, Tex.
May Smith, the wife of Paddy"
Smith, lightweight pugilist, and broth
er of Denver Ed" Smith, threw car
bolic acid in her husbands face, badly
burning his neck and left cheek.
Chief of Police George Convey and
Detective Fred Rennecke, CT Evans
vile, IND, found at Nashville, Tenn,
George W. Fischer, the young runaway
for who,n $1,000 reward had been Of
fered by bis uncle at Evansville.
The Rev. ". NJ. Thompson, pastor Of
Il church at East Birmingham, Ala,
was arrested as he was leaving his pull
pit. He has been identified as Buck
Hurt, Il life-term murderer who escap.
ed from the Mississippi pcnitentiary.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Phil Armour, the great packer and
philanthropist Of Chicago, is visiting
Stanford university in California. II
is not unlikely that he is gathering in
formation as to mean by which he
may put some of his wealth to good
use. Every Christmas he has a sur
prise party in store for some worthy
charity or educational institution. Per
baps his manual training school is about
to graduate into a great college of gen
eral learning.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
A modern treatment for nervous pros

A modern treatment for nervous pros
tration requires that the patient be put
to bed in a quiet roo and, fed for
weeks on enormous quantities of milk.
He must take exercise, however, and
this he does by proxy through the de.
vice Of massage. He must do absolute
ly nothing for himself, and if his nose
itches the nurse must scratch it. Pa.
tients under such treatment sometimes
gain four or five pounds Of flesh per
week. 1t is, of course, a luxury fol
the rich.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
People in Print.

Col. Bob Miles, the well known
thcatcr manager Of Cincinn iii, Is dead.
Justin Lawyer, long u public officer
at COldWater, Mich. is dead. He was
20 years old.
John 4. Ford. manager OF the theater
in which President Lincoln was shot,
died in Baltimore. ,
DIR. James NJ. Taylor, president Of
VGssar college, was rendered 4 rccep-
ton by the citizens Of Topeka, Kan.
Louis G. Ga:ham of Chicago says that
he can make Il telescope through which
the inhabitants Of Mars can he seen.
Fx-Gov. j. Proctor Knott Of Ken
lucky, denies that he will be a candi-
date to succeed Congressman Breckin-
ridge.
Explorer Wellman was given a silk
flag by the National Capital Press club
and requested to hoist 1t at the north
pole.
The Rev. A. T. Wood was stricken
with heart failure in the pulpit of West
minister church at Omaha, Neb., and
died a few minutes later.
Rev. DR.. William H. Furness, the
great ShakcSpearean authority, dellV-
cred a lecture at Philadelphia the other
day which had been written a genera
ton ago. He is in his ninety-fourth
year and is still vigorous.
Madame Carnot strives to be the
best dressed woman in France, and
with Felix, her favorite costumer, she
has frequent consultations. Her de-
sire 10 be well dressed Is not a pas
sion for dress, but a wish TO do every
thing in keeping with Eer position.
She might he pedantic, for her book
learning is marvellous, but she Is very
unaffected.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
From Foreign shores.


The house Of commons rejects Mr..
Labouchere's amendment to the queens
speech.
Lord Rosebcry in a speech announces
that the policy of the Liberal party
under him as premier will be precisely
the same as under Gladstone.
The German steamer Lining, bound
from Danzic to Amsterdam, has been
sunk in collision with the steamer Lin
coin. Three Of the crew of the Lining
went down with her.
The Right Hon. Visconnt O%xenbridge,
master of the house, has resigned. He
was appointed to the position in 1892.
President PeixOta of Brazil refuses
Da Canals term of capitulation and
opens fire upon the insurgents, who
afterward surrender Internationally.
Fifty thousand socialists of Vienna
and towns in the immediate vicinity
formed in procession and marched to
the central cemetery, where wreaths
were placed upon the Obelisk erected to
the memory Of the rioters who were
killed during tho disturbances of March
1S4S. Immense crowds witnessed the
procession. The proceedings through
out were orderly.
The London chamber of commerce,
in accordance with a resolution adopt
ed by the oriental section, have sent a
memorial to Lord Rosebery. the pre-
mier, requesting that he take steps to
bring about the resumption Of the
Brussels monetary conference, in the
hope that further discussion of the
money question In the light of recent
events will result in the adoption Ct a
plan to remedy the evil of which has
dislocated business throughout the East.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24


We are to have professional foot ball
text season. A year or two hence the
spectators in that brand of sport will
be inquiring If it is lawful III any Of
the states and how the governors 1Fcrc-
Of arc disposed to treat the game.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

, james WhitcOmb Riley may have sold
$4,000 worth Of poetry last year and
he may not, but the fact "emains that
the average poet will continue to sell
his wares ut the rate Of about one
dollars worth in 10000 years.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

The greatest naval review of mod
ern times was by Queen Victoria in
1854 at the beginning OF the Crlmean
war. The fleet extended in an unbrok-
en- line for five miles, and comprised
300 men Of war, with twice that num-
Der of store and supply ships. The
feet was manned by 10000 seamen.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Gladstone's retirement has necessi-
tated the immediate return of William
T. Stead to London. His abandonment
of Chicago to q dark and dubious fate
looks like cruelty, but we must remem-
Der that England needs him now that
Gladstone has stepped aside. At any
rate Stead thinks so.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

The new chaplain of the house of rep
reseutatiyes is said to be an all-around
athlete, and could put on the gloves
with Jim Corbett. If he finds that his
prayers fail to bring the congressman
around to q sense Of their duty he
might try q few Touchdown arguments
to advantage.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

A sick elephant at Rockford, Ill,
drank ten gallons Of whisky and was
cured of q serious ailment. The pre-
scription is not recommended to sick
humanity, however, for in their case it
may produce a different result.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
G-loncester sc1,rches

Gloucester, Mass, March 19.-The Fer
gLson building and contents were almost
entirely destroyed by fire. The Tarr
dock AMI the CAPE Ann Breeze building
were partly burned, and the National
Dsnk b.liIdiI s badly scorched. Loss,
SlOOd1D: II tnranca. 2i37 M.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
The Red Man,s pine.

Shawano, Wis, March 19.-Holli,ter 4
McMillen of Oshkosh we're the highest
bidders for The pine cut by the Menonl:-
nee Indians during the winter, the price
being $685. per thousand for the whole
M cunt, over 100000 feet.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
Fight.

Little Rock, Ark, March 19.-The city
and county authorities at LOt Springs
have given notice to Manager Dannie
Needham, Of the Globe the.Aer, that no
more prize fighting will be tolerated. All
matches have been declared of.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Mr.. Astor's Pail Mall Gazette has dis
er. Some people have been making an
awful fuss all these years over n mere
follower.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
follower

Emperor William proposes to fog
anarchists first and seriously punish
them aftcrward. BY serious punish
ment he probably means a bath and
Il lob.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24
N. DAKOTA.
wAsHBURN,

The Florida orange crop, 1t is thought,
will be slightly larger than ever before.
1t is placed by an autlo rity ut from
100000 to 100000 boxes.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Instances Of extreme old age are
more common among those who excr-
else themselves with gardening than
In any other employment.
The Washburn leader. [volume] (Washburn, McLean County, N.D.) 1890-1986, 1894-03-24

Handel and Bach were born In houses
almost within sight Of each other
They were devoted to the same branch
Of art, but never met.