Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1894-06-05
THE RICHMOND DISPATCH TUESDAY. JUNE .. 1884.
THE SUGAR INQUIRY.
Testimony Of Various Senators and
of Mr.. Carlisle.
THE SECRETARY'S STATEMENT
r, r. Brief But Pointed-Charges De"'e"
I'm Toto-why He Made the
Schedule.

! WASHINGTON, June 4-7'eh"'0
| chairman OF the Sugar Trust lh'es"s
ton Committee, laid before the S'''"e.
TODAY the official stenograpmc W.
| - the testimony given by Senators "e,
pherson. Harris. Jones. Mus NeSN
voorhees,. Secretary Carlisle ana nep',
sentative Warner, a synopsis Oh VIM.
has been already given In these
patches. "a he
Mr.. Mcpherson said that as TAR a. y.
krew there was no truth IN any 20
NJ the charges published concernns
ro,arv Carlisle and the doings OF inc
Co. rr,,st For himself, he said' ne
1,saoroe, with the committee as TO the
| sugar schedule. He opposed 'ne :,
schedule presented by the comHii''ee anu
did a little raving over that himself
rnver saw MIR. Carlisle do any OF It. ~
| orc time. Mr.. Mcpherson salu' he id.u
| before the committee the views -. 80
| friend. Matthieson, MEMBER OF INC ''sa 80
| Trust. but did not endorse 'henh' Oil ..'s
contrary, he opposed thein' anu 'V'0N
against the commuters prupos''i0i-
W. y,,,,ness said Mr.. Searles. secretary
| ~ the sugar Refining Company, came 10
HE house and argued that proposition
oryered bv MIR. Mcpherson would give me
s,,oar retiners nothing. Searles was the
orIv nerson he ever saw on the subject.
senator Mills denied any knowledge or
| the statements made IN the newspapers
| The letter from Mr. Carlisle Introducing
MIR. Havemeyer was a simple letter OF
introduction, but Mr.. Mills said ne de'
cIined TO see him. Referring 10 the way
I'm which a duty was put on sugar Mr.
Mills said: IL was the first one OF three
10 propose a duty on sugar. 1t was an
unwelcome thing for ne To DO. Inc rea-
son was. as you gentlemen know, | have
always advocated putting sugar on the
dutiable list as a revenue article, ana l
told them. We have got to have more
money than the Wilson bill makes. and
we have got to have a duty on sugar.
| do not want it. | 90 not Ike TO so
backward L have taken sugar on the
dutablc list and put f. on the free llst'
IL has been done. and | do not Ike 10
put anything back on the dutiable list
/ do not care II it is a. revenue article.
| said: We have got 20 do IT, ana you
may as well make up your minds about
it. We have got 10 have more money.
JONES AND CARLISLE.
Mr.. Jones testified that before the last
amendments 10 the sugar schedule were
reported there was some talk or making
| the duty on refined sugar b per cent
| instead of is Of cent
'"rhere was some talk" said Mr.. Jones'
| Gin the presence Of Mr. Carlisle, Senator
vest and myself OF making a schedule
| of 10 or g. per cent, and ! asked MT Car
Isle to prepare a schedule.
81 asked him merely TO save myself
| the labor Of it, because with the data IN
the Treasury Department | thought he
would be sure to have all the points
| necessary
MIR. Carlisle did as suggested, and Mr.
tones assumed the responsibility FOR Mt.
| Carlsle's action.
Secretary Carlsle's testimony Is rather
brief and pointed. He oenied in toto the
charges that he had made any recent
visit to the Finance Committee, or that
| he had made any statement to any human
| being that the Sugar Trust or any one
acting for II. had many any contribu-
tons 10 the Democratic campaign-fund
and that the trust must be- cared for
Colpled with this denial, Mr. Carlisle
said IF you want ne TO give my
| information. derived from a member OF
the committee. I will say that the sugar
Trust gave nothing Whatever TO the
Democratic Campaign-Committee. This is
merely from hearsay, however know
nothing about IT, personally"
As TO how he came 70 draft the sched-
ule. the Secretary said /; was In accord
ance with Senator Jone5's request Mr..
Carlisle added at was O. service that We
| had been doing very frequently during
consideration Of this bill. and a service
which. according to my own knowledge.
the Secretary Of the Urea sury has always
done heretofore when tariff bills were
pending"
This matter was fully described in the
semi-oncial statement published on Sa-
turday last.
Mr.. Carlisle said he had been called upon
by both reflners and Planters. and he
knew the rehners advocated al valorem
duties Mr. Searles Mr.. Havemeyer and
Mr. Reed, representing the trust, had all
called upon him
As TO any suggestions OF argument that
I he may have made relative 10 the sugar
schedule. Mr.. Carlisle said: AS 10 the
sugar schedule. I will saY / never made
any suggestion about IT. [ mean by that
any independent or orig nal suggestion,
or any voluntary suggestion
Senators Jones, Voorhees, and Vest de-
MED absolutely any knowledge Of any
meeting such as was alleged to have
taken place on Sunday afternoon in the
Capitol building between Democratic
members Of the Finance Committee and
the representatives OF the Sugar Trust
They also denied that Secretary Carlisle
had told he Democratic members that
the Democratic party was under obliga-
tons to the trust and must be provided
for.