Evening star., 1894-04-04

statements made by the plaintiff. He had
no recollection of makiI g any such state
ment The substance of Mr.. Breckinridge's s
recollection and that of Mrs. Blackburn s
was Identical, though as to the form the
conversation took their recollections diff
fered. That substance was that he went
there. notified Mrs Blackburn of their en-
gagement and expires Sed his qualification at
the kindness Mrs. Blackburn had already
shown the plaintiff.
The Subsequent Interviews.
Coming to the second interview with Mrs.
Blackburn, at which the defendant was not
accompanied by Miss Pollard, the defen-
dant said that he could not recollect saying
what Mrs. Blackburn testified to, that he
had noticed she was shocked when he had
announced his engagement; he did not re-
call her saying that this was poor return
for so much devotion as he received. His
recollection was that Mrs. Blackburn said
that he had been fortunate in the devotion
he had received and hoped in this second
marriage he would be no less fortunate.
He did not recall that he had told Mrs.
Blackburn that he had thought he had dis
covered Miss Pollard's feelings toward him,
and man of honor there was nothing
for him to do but to offer her his hand.
Defendant believed he had spoken of Miss
Polards friendless condition. He was do
ing, he said, all he could to carry out the
agreement he had made with the plain
tiff. AS to the next interview with Mrs.
Black burn, when they were talking about
where Miss Pollard should go, and what
would be best. the defendant said Miss Pol
lard had spoken of going to Europe. In
that conversation Mrs. Blackburn spoke
of her own intention of going to Europe
In that conversation witness had said it
might be pleasant If the plaintiff could meet
them in Europe, and Mrs. Blackburn had
thereupon said that she and her sister pre-
ferred not to be hampered or travel with a
party. He did not recall the words Mrs.
blackburn testified to having used warning
him that she could have nothing to do with
their affair, If he was too attentive or did
anything likely to make a scandal. The
witness said that in the conversation Mrs
Blackburn had spoken of the talk that
might be excited, and then the defendant
had urged Mrs Blackburn to aid him IN
getting the plaintiff to leave and remain
away from Washington until their marriage
for he was constantly leaving Mrs. Black
burn under the impression that he was go
ing to marry the plaintiff
II was honestly" said the defendant, ''if
l can use such an expression, trying to
carry out my agreement with the plaintiff" !"
ou We're honestly trying to deceive Mrs.
Blackburn said Mr.. Wilson.
Yes said Mr.. breckenridge with a sigh
Il was honestly trying to deceive her.
therefore do not blame Mrs Blackbu for
feeling some acerbity about the case"
His Recollection is Different.
Mr.. Wilson continued to go over other
statements made by Mrs. Blackburn in that
and other interviews.
AS to the statement that Mrs. Blackburn
had made that the defendant had told her
that Miss Pollard was worrying herself and
himself by her jealousy, and asked her to
endeavor to allay her jealousy, the defend
ant said that the form in which Mrs. Black
burn put the converse ton did not accord
with his recollection. He had spoken of
Miss Pollards being worried and in bad
health. The defendant said If the word
Jealousy was used 1t was used by Mrs
Blackburn. Mr. Wilson read over the long
statement made by Mrs. Blackburn about
the matter of jealousy, in which the de-
fendant was represented as disclaiming that
any word of affection had passed between
him and Mrs. Wing, and had declared his
intention of going to kentucky when Con-
gress adjourned and arranging for his fu-
ture marriage.
The defendant said Mrs Blackburn had
put together two or three conversations as
Blackburn's statement, he said, was an alb
solute mistake of Mrs. Blackburn's recol-
lection. No such conversation whole
had occurred.
Mr.. Wilson desired the witness to answer
more directly, and objection was made by
Mr. Thompson to his requiring the witness
to answer in word, after reading to him
long deposition.
Mr.. Wilson said all he wanted was to have
the defendant answer the question and not
to make speeches.
Mr.. Breckenridge said he was willing and
desirous of answering the questions.
Some More DeninIs.
He denied that he had ever told Mrs
Blackburn that he was not going to marry
Mrs. Wing and had no intention of marry
ing her. He had not spoken to her of Mrs
Wing until after his marriage with Mrs
Wing. and that was after Congress ad-
journed
DO you deny the truth of Mrs. Black
burns statement asked Mr. Wilson.
Il do not deny their truth, in the sense of
saying that she has testified falsely. l do
say that she got several conversations COM
mingled and that she has been led into
error by faulty recollection.
He thought Mrs. Blackburn had also con-
fused statements he had made to Miss
Pollarl with statements she had made 10
him. He did not think Mrs. Blackburn had
or would make use OF the word villain
to him, when he was visitor there in the
manner described. He did not think lady
would do that in her own apartments.
Mr.. Wilson asked If he did not think the
word could appropriately be used by a
lady If the circumstances justified 1t, and
called for such a term, and the defendant
said it might he thought, be used.
The conversation in which Mrs. Black
burn testified that she had said as he had
not kept his agreement with her, she with
drew her protection, the defendant said oc-
CURED substantially as Mrs. Blackburn had
told it, except at another time and under
other circumstances. His recollection of
Mrs. Blackburn's language was that she
said, Il wash my hands of the whole
transaction"
Some Superb Acting.
The interview at which Miss Pollard ask
ed him to name a day for their marriage
occurred, the defendant said, the night of
Sunday, May IA. Mrs. Blackburn, he said,
had given an account of a scene which did
really happen, but not exactly according
to defendants recollection. There was some
superb acting.
'On whose part" said Mr.. Wilson, Miss
"On Miss Pollards part, and some, un-
doubtedly. on mine. Miss Pollard, however,
introduced some things which were not
down on the bills"
The defendant then went on to describe
down beside him and asked him to name the
day of their marriage. The defendant had
said: Il will not name the day." Mrs.
the defendant said: No demonstrations
here, in the presence of Mrs. Blackburn.
He said the plaintiff had gone step fur
ther than their agreement called for, in un-
dertaking to have him name day for their
marriage. He resented this and declined to
name day.
Mrs. Blackburn's recital of this interview
quoted herself as saying that she had said
to the plaintiff that as Mr.. Breckenridge had
stated he would come back and arrange
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