The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1894-02-12
In TURKEY AS IN HAWAII.
Ex- CONSUL GENERAL HESS SAYS
AMERICANS AGE At A DISCoUSE

DOu't Guarantee Protection to Ameri-
cans-TerrsIi Never Dreamed or Talk
lag Ironcisd- Waite Hes. Was There.
Mr.w. b. Hess latterly Con sui Gen eral OF the
United States ct Constantlnople, returned to
this country on the steamer New York yester-
day. A Sun reporter asked Him:
Mr.. Hess. have you brought over any good
stories with your
Good storiesT' he replied Yes I've got
an excellent story. A magnificent story. in
fact. II you are an American citizen it'll make
your blood boil"
Mr.. Hess is from Indiana. He Is lawyer.
bristling with facts and figures outspoken
and vigorous in his style.
Let me tell you first about THE Sun" he
said. slappng his knee with delight ~ was
in the domain OF tho Sultan when first heard
OF the Hawaiian policy. and was so thunder
struck that for long time thought there
must have boon some mistake. When. how
ever. the truth was impressed upon me was
furious Then read The Suns denunciation
OF the policy OF infamy. and IL Just warmed my
heart Yes. sir. That just reached the right
spot. / felt then that tho United States were
not going to the dogs altogether. You will I'M
derstand better how felt about THE SUNS at
titude when tell you that the American policy
in Turkey. since MIR Terrell came over is Min
lister last year. has been practically the same.
Up to that time there never was an occa-
sion when tho Turks dared to interfere with
naturallzei merican citizens. A Turk, an Ar
menian. or a Syrian who had become natural
lied in this country was received in Turkey
exactly as though he were q born American
citizen. Imagine. therefore, the delight Of tho
Sublime Porte when Mr.. Terrell received in
structions from the state Department that 1T
was an attribute OF sovereignty on the part OF
the Turkish empire to exc Jude from her borders
all undesirable citizens.' You SEQ how broad
that principle ia. They could deport from the
empire any American citizen-native born
ns t they found undes,iIable;
pasha, the Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs.
was 50 happy when no heard this that he al
Under our treaty with Turkey. which dates
back to 1880. all American citizens are emit
citizens OF tho most favored nation receive.
And yet the American Minister went out of his
tweak the eagles beak without danger to him
:" 1 read In the newspapers this morning tho
story that Mr.. Terrell had threatened to send n
war ship to lskanderun. II two Armenians,
who were i'm prisoned there. were not released.
All have to say about that is that IL It is true;
ME; Terrell , has ehanGed wonfd i since
in nccordanc. with his Views. He has simply
rght-about-faced; Il that Is true; I had several
| interviews with him, and what he said to mo
would prompt a threat OF that Kind. / will tell
| you of one interview had with him.
% Last fall an Armenian who had been ,nntu-
rallied in this country returned to Turkey to
Tior OF the country and was waiting for him;
When the steamer dropped anchor he lowered
before he had covered half the disianss Is,
them his passport The oiliser in command
That may be very good to. light your pipe
with. but It won't do here; You will have to
Turk md fearing the police promptly rowed
him back to the vessel
to me early the next day adding that the ship
would leave that forenoon. he brought me
the asEsa ssd hs r. sSt
Nery, well. then answered, bring i 70 me.
t a%d the mann The passpSrt was brought to
me, 4 was signed by GreshSW AM and npon my
the INK o9Es Me- 4 ss d6sd
Mr.. Terrell, we've got to be spry In this mat;
ter the ship Sis sails this III
ySoui back me up ~ get my dearsSsthats
70 land The conversation that followed ran
ter h1 ss sRH You must not 90 il "'f W
he!?Wb1y Iasked.
Wen get into trouble II We do anything of
h S Gfss @ any Sss o4fR sn
This American citizen the right to land here
-" Well said Terrell I wouldn't go down
and do that S the Ts in ts get
ter We must act like men,.
"'I am acting like a man. answered. L
am acting as an American protecting another
Yes. but II you attempt to interfere they
may dump you into the Bosporus, and that'll
six Of seven Turks at the bottom before they
We'll. / went away and thought the matter
over. and the longer ! thought the more |
| opposition to the Minister'S advice. l went
home and told my cdrHss to put his uniform
a great sight He has superb uniform. and
wears sash In which he carries sword,
ter or the Consul General goes out In state or
NAL es an official call the cGrdss goes along to
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the driver on the carriage seat. with his arms
man. or Interpreter. to nut his hat on, Then
We went down In great stylo to the Custom
to him. There is an American citizen on
board that ship who is being detained agains:
passport Is regular and authentic. demand
that he be put ashore at once Certainly
certainly cert i went out in a boat. got the
Armenian and his baggage on board and put
him ashore. and he was the happiest man you
~ reported the matter officially to the
had done All he said was. on got out OF
that all right, but didn't think IL could I've
done; Yes replied : it only needed little
-" You see. the hitch lies here. In 1859 the
Sultan issued an L1de or mandate torblddlng
by becoming citizens or SUBJECTS OF another
country without the Sultan's permission. MIR.
Bayard, while Secretary OF State, knocked that
Tratie as far as tho Unitea States was con-
eerned higher than a kite By Informing the
Turkish Government through Minister Cox,
that our Government never did recognize
that doctrine and never could' FIelinghuysen
and Blaine instructed the American Minister
in a similar spirit. Tho American GoyeTnmen
would never recognize = doctrine that COM
peled n man T. get permission from q sultan
or any one else before he could become sn
American citiHUn.
" The Turkish Government refused TO recog-
niZe tho naturalization ~ any SUBJECT who had
left that country atter 1870 but give you my
word that never had Dny difficulty In obtain
ing for an American citiZeu-whetheT he was
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