Evening journal. [volume] (Wilmington, Del.) 1888-1932, 1894-06-13
A NONpARTISRN TRUST.
Havemeyer Says Contributions
Were Made to Both Parties.
HIS TESTIMONY Is INTERESTING.

The President Of the Sugar Combine
Talked For Fise Rours to the senate In
VrstigatinG Committee and Has Not Told
ItAu Yrt--TariT Work Blocked.
WASHINGTON June i3.-When Mr.. II.
T.. Havomeyer, prcsbdont Of the American
Sugar Rolning company, otherwise known
rs tho Sugar trust, was excused by the
senate investigating committee, he had
Leon with the committee about five hours,
and notwithstanding the fact that the
qIcstlcns propouudcd covered all the
points contemplated by the resolution un-
dor which the committee Is acting, and
some issues rs we'll which were not strict
~ contemplated when the resolution was
adopted, Re was informed that there werc
s;i,. Other points upon which the commit
tee desired TO inecrrognte him, and he was
a'l.cd TO appear agnin today.
The inquiry WAS begun by asking Mr..
/ Ilavcmeyer atoLt tho published statement
ttnt ne had either on MIR E. G. Bcnedict's
/ yacht or nt Greenwich, Conn, been in
consultation with Mr.. Cleveland and Mr..
Benedict In 1892, aftor Mr.. Cloveland's
nominatlou for tho presidency about tho
| sugar interests us affected by the Hawaiian
treaty
Does Not Know Mr.. Cleveland.
To this Mr. Havemoyor said there was
mot ono word Of truth" He also de-
clarcd that no such consultation had ever
occurred nt any time or place. He added
that lac did not know Mr.. Cleveland and
had novor seen him. Furthermore he had
never exchanged a word with Mr.. Bene-
dict on the subject of sugar or on any 9th
er business matter.
with reference TO the reported confer
enco at the Arlington hotel In this city no
said Some time in March was in Mr..
Torrclls room at the Arlington hotel.
whom Mr. Brice Mr. Smith and Mn Reed
woro present There was nothing at that
Interview said about the obligations OF the
Democratic party TO the Sugar trust, there
existing no obligation between them, and
thore was no mention Of any. have no
recollection OF any reference to any obli
cation ON the part OF Smith, Brice OF any
one present.
Ho then told how he had been sent for
by Mr.. Terrell TO come TO his (Terrell's)
, room and explain the sugar question to
Senator Brlce, who was thero, and how no
had gone In, taking his samples, and then
delivered what he termed lecture 20 SEN
ator Brce on the subject Of sugar, repeat
/ ing tlio lecture for tho information Of the
committee. He said that a specific duty
would discriminate against low grade sug-
ar, which was the poor man's sugar, and
gave other reasons for advocating an adj
yulorom duty.
Hc said that senator Smith came in aft
pr his explanation OF the sugar question
had been concluded. He sgid something,
r however, aftor senator Smith made his
appearance, about the ''wpanRle' he and
. Brlco had been engaged In, and I'm response
. 10 questions said; Il said something about
u the Democratic party that he took um-
o bragg nt I thought. / said chat the DEM
q ocratic party was put into power not to
b. destroy any industry, but TO take suitable
, ! and proper care Of every industry, and
, that this selection of the sugar refining
industry of the United States for attack
= was infamous as a party proceeding
Had Not Threatened the BnL
o Mr. Havcmeyor was very positive that
a there was no further conversation on the
;. subject OF sugar after Senator Smith came.
"a Nor was there any reference 20 the indobt.
odncss Of the Democratic party TO the Sug.
/. or trust by him 10 Senator Smith or any
Il other senator, because there was no occa-
Y sion for such reference, as neither he MOI
II the trust had ever made any contribution
!. 90 the party. Neither had he told Mr.
n smith that the bill should be beaten Il
# sugar did not get fair treatment He ais,
denied the story OF n Sunday meeting al
the capitol with Senator Gallery and 9th
prs and said ne had never been 40 the cap
itol on Sunday or arrnged a sugar sched
S. ulc with him.
He said he had come to Washington
carly in March, after the tariff bill haC
IN passed the house, with the hope Of gettinl
"a hearing before tho finance comndttcl
and had gone TO Senator Vest TO ask hin
IL il il would not be possible 70 secure
&, hearing 10y the committee. Mr.. Vest has
8 said no, but had agreed 10 allow him Il
ne explain the sugar question to him (Vest
~ individually, and he had done so, meeting
Id Vcst twice
no In this interview he had opposed an.
IN duty on raw sugar, but had said II ther
X was to be a duty it should be an ad valo
ne rom, and had represented that a differen
be tial OF one-quarter of a cent on refined sug
" ar was indispensable to the existence 0
ID the sugar refining interest in this country
a Ho had not been particular whether thi
III diherential should be ad valorem or spe
he cific, but wanted the duty on raw ad va
lorem.
be He then explained the interview wit
nt senator Jones at Senator Camden's room
gn and with Senator Gallery at Senate
Sc Brice's house. He thought Mr. Terrel
et had told him that an arrangement ha
it been made for him TO meet Mr.. Jones. II
Ic. had talked with Jones about three-qual
ch ters of an hour about the different sy:
he TENS Of levying duty and about the cost {
refining sugar in this and other countrie:
when Mr. Jones asked a question that
could not answer, and because he coul
~. not answer it the senator had appeared
get "ruilled" and packed up his paper
and left for the senate.
ON HIS SERMON HAD EFFECT.