Eagle River review. [volume] (Eagle River, Wis.) 1890-1927, 1894-06-07
MAKING A TARIFF BILL.
Secretary Carlisle and Senator Mills
Tell How the Sugar Schedule
was Framed.

man Warner in the Sugar Trust investi-
cation was made public to-day. 1t is in
the nature OF Il general denial, but at
times admits that there is some grounds
to the charges that have been made
connecting them with the sugar schedule
of the tariff bill.
Senator Mills denied all knowledge of
the reported secret interview of Secretary
Carlisle on the sugar question, and said
that he and Senator Jones and Senator
Vest had prepared the sugar schedule as
first reported, and he knew nothing of
any memorandum for the schedule from
the secretary. He also denied any knowl-
edge of the alleged Sunday conference of
the finance committee with those inter-
ested in securing legislation. He said he
had never heard of any member OF the
Sugar Trust being in the capitol while he
was acting as q member OF the finance
committee, and that he had never met
amy Of the members of the trust. The
letter OF introduction was merely Il formal
note containing only two or three lines.
lie declined to see Mr.. Havemeyer. Sen
ator Mills also denied any knowledge of
contributions to the Democratic campaign
committee.
Secretary Carlisle said his memory
does not correspond with that of Senator
Jones as to the time and place that was
asked to put the sugar schedule into
shape. Mr.. Carlisle stated that Mr..
Jones had requested him to have the
sugar schedule prepared on the morning
of Saturday, the 9th of May, and had
come to his house for that purpose and
had handed him Il memorandum state
ment OF what he wanted done. He had
agreed To do this because the service was
one that the Treasury Department was
i'll the habit of rendering the members of
the finance committee. After he was at
his office he dictated the schedule provid
ing for the ad valorem duty of 40 per
cent. and the additional h of a cent on
sugars above No. Ii Dutch standard.
AT , o'clock that day he went to the cap
itUl in response to a telephone message
requesting his presence, taking the sugar
schedule which he had put in shape with
him. He found Senators Jones, Vest
and Mcpherson and Representative
Brecklnrldge in the room of the Senate
committee ON appropriations and Senator
German came in afterwards. Mr.. Car
Isle continued:
After talking some time 1t suggested by
some One-and L am not able now to state by
whom but certainly not by me, for made
original suggcstion-that instead of having 40
per cent ad Valorem upon all sugars and q of
cent additional upon sugars testing above 16
Dutch standard in Color there should be
duty Of 20 per cent. upon all sugars below No.
ii Dutch standard in color, the additional per
cent. being, as you will observe, equal to x of
the 40 per cent on the other grades. That was
talked about and while it was not agreed to
because as | say there were only two members
OF the finance committee present Senators
Jones and VeSt-it seemed to be the impression
that it would be well to submit that Kind of
someone asked me if | would not write it. |
said: - Will Just take this amendment, which
have in my hand, and interlne it." In ad-
clifton to that they said they wanted to put into
the amendment clause relating TO the
Hawaiian treaty. They wanted 10 insert u
clause that this schedule should not abrogate
or Ill any manner impair the provisions of the
hawaiian treaty, and asked me if could not
hot "a. ~,
paper and interlne it." l took out the part
which provided Tor onc-eighth of cent per
round additional and put in the provision for
my own handWriting-all the provisions now
contained in it regarding the Hawaiian treaty,
Just as il is to-day.
Mr. Carlisle then told of his visit to the
capitol next day, which was Sunday, ex-
planning how his visit came to be made.
to correct the discrepancy in the sChdule
which. had 1t not been corrected, would
have LETT sugar without either duty or Il
bounty between July 1. 1894. and Janu-
AIRY /, 1895. This occurred to him. and
not finding Senator Jones in his home he
had driven to the capitol TO make the sllg
grstion that the hiatus. should be provided
Tor, When to his surprise he had found
Senators Jones. Vest and Mcpherson,
and Representative Breckenridge at work
on the tariff amendments, which were to
hr introduced the following day. He was
then told mat the amendment which he
had interIined, changing the duty on re-
fined sugar from the compound rate of 10
per cent. had been abandoned and he
simply said 'all right and came away.
Closing this part OF what may be called
his direct testimony, Mr.. Carlisle said:
The amendment which l prepared by inter
liHEntions i'll the report of the committee of
finance handed TO Senator Jones as | passed
through, going out of the capitol Gil that Satur-
How to me b hfe esTf seem i nce
know who II is-has seen that amendment in
my handwriting, undoubtedly from the state
ment which the Senator has lust read 10 me- and
as far as am concerned it may be published to
the whole world and read in the Senate any
where else. 1t is simply compliance with the
and on that the writer has based all this state
nent presume, although he fixes the time in
February. 1t was on the 9Th day OF May.
Upon being asked by Senator Lodge
whether ne had advised the finance com
lnittee as to whether it was better to
have al valorem or specific duties, Mr..
Carlisle said:
have always been in favor of an ad vaorem
any such opinion then. There was very little
said about it. may say also that have always
revenue ar .icle, and I prepared the minority
report on the Mckinley bill against the pro-
visions putting sugar on the free list.
Mr. Carlisle said that he knew that I'D
valorem duties were advocated by the
Sugar refining interest, for both the refin-
ers and the planters. as we'll as others in
terested in tariff legislation, had talked
with him about their business With
reference to the note of introduction
which he gave Mr.. Hayemeyer to Senator
Mills. he said that he wrote the note for
him as he wrote letters for others inter-
ested in tariff legislation to other members
of the committee and he hoped that if the
note was still in existence it would be
made public. He said he had known Mr..
Havemeyer for Il number of years. and
Mr.. Havemeyer had stated that he also
knew Senator Mills. but feared the latter
would not see him unless he had a note.
He had never refused to write such a let
ter if he thought the man who requested
it was worthy. Mr.. Havemeyer. he said,
had called to see him about the tariff leg
islation on sugar. as had also Mr.. Searles
and Henry r. Reed, of Boston, and all
had talked about this matter. but he could
moi remember what they had said There
had been. however. no intimation from
amy of them that the Democratic party
was under obligations to the Sugar