The record-union., 1894-08-31
Testimony Showing Experienced
Men BlOckaded Trains.
MARSHALS STAND BY AND WATCH
THEIR CHEF BEATEN.
Two Kentuckians Settle Quarrel in
Duel With knives, the Combat
Lasting Until One of the Partfc-
ipants Drops Down Dead-Cioud-
burst in Texas, Resulting IN the
Drowning of Six People.
Special to the REcoRD-USrox.

Special to the RECoRD-UNIoN
CHICAGO, Aug. 30.-Contrary to ex-
pectation rebuttal testimony was heard
to-day by the Strike Commission.
S. G. Wade, an employe of the legal
department of the Rock Island road,
said much of the blockading of the rail-
road tracks was the work of experienced
railroad men.
w. r. Mooney, a Northern Pacific
switchman of Blue Island. said Debs and
Howard had not advised the men to
strike They had told the men to use
their own judgment. He was discharged
for alleged activity in the strike. Wit
ness told of the fig hi at Blue Island June
30th, when 400 Marshals stood by and
saw their chief, Logan, beaten by the
crowd.
w. f. Guion, reporter was next
called. He went over the incidents of the
strike at Blue Island. Fordham and Pull
| man. He saw the cars burning at Burn
side. He found only three railroad men
in the nearest crowd, which was three
blocks away. The railroad men were
trying to disperse the crowd. One Of
these men said the instructions from the
American Railway Union was to urive
all persons away who might be inclined
to damage property, and IL they would
not 60 to cause their arrest. Debs and
Howard afterward asked witness if be
could help the order and cause the arrest
of the men engaged in violence, but he
told them be was not detective.
Vice. President Howard of the Ameri-
can Railway Union was again called to
Ill II hot bo
had advised violence and declared he had
always counseled moderation and de-
nounced lawlessness. His onl~remark
of ..incendiary" character. he said, was
the advice he had given the men to use
the coupling pins on American Protective
Association representatives or any other
class who might endeavOr to stir up
trouble in the union on a basis of differ
ence in religion. He denounced the
American Protective Association and eX-
plaiued how emissarieS had frequently
endeavored to foment dissenslons in
labor organizations on account of re-
ligion.
Mr.. Howard then suggested that the
following questions should be put to the
General Managers, one of whom he sup
posed would take the stand this alter
noon:
Ibid the strikers at an time interfere
with your carrying mails if Pullman cars
were not attached to the same train ?''
"Could you not at all times transport
the mails without interruption, ii you
had not insisted upon attaching Pullman
cars to the same train ?"
"Was your contract with the Govern
ment to transport mails any less binding
upon you than your contract with the
Pullman Company, or was one contract
in any sense made dependent upon the
other 2"
nn;d --o,r oo,,oooo1 have q oon+rao ot
with the Government to transport the
mails?'-
"Was your contract dependent upon
your ability to transport Pullman cars ?"
"Did your contract with the Pullman
Company provide that you should not
carry the mails unless you took Pullman
cars on the same train 2"
that the commission would have oppor-
tunity to put the questions, but they were
allowed to go on record.
Howard also desired an investigation
of Pullman's reported statement that
the General Managers had threatened to
boycott him if he consented to arbitrate
with the American Railway Union. He
further said the union would show by the
testimony of Mayor Hopkins that the
| American Railway Union had been more
active than the General Managers in Sc
curing the arrest of persons engaged i'll
| violence.
Secretary Keliher of the American Rail-
way Union and Mayor Hopkins testified
| at the afternoon session.
| Mayor Hopkins testified at some length
regarding the attitude of the police dur
ing the strike. He declared they had
done their duty at all times. He ac-
knowledged that he was in sympathy
with the strikers and against Pullman,
as he had been an employe of the road
l. hof On, lnun ho1 fr.o
dure.
! Upon the matter of the message from
Debs to the General Managers Associa-
ton, the Mayor said: July 23d, Messrs.
Debs, Howard and Keliher of the
American Railway Union called aud
presented communication to the Rail
way Managers, asking me to take
it over to them. They asked that
ali men be taken back, not as MEM
| bers of the American Railway Union but
as individuals, except those who had
committed violence during the strike.
When | got there the board had ad-
| ijourned, and l handed it to Mr.. St. John.
| Mr.. st. John informed me they did not
desire to receive any communications
| from that source, but would receive it in
view OF the fact that the Mayor of Chi
cago brought it. | say this in regard to
Mr.. Egan: The papers quoted him as
saying that if he were the Mayor he
| would not allow QlmSelI 10 De MADE
messenger boy. l want to say, most en-
phaticaily, that Mr.. Egan never said it,
and l don't think l would have allowed
him to say it,"
I'VE understand it has been stated in
that you applied to Mr.. Debs for perluis-
sion 10 move certain things during the
strike ?" was asked.
"That is not true. I'll give you my
statement in regard to it. We have X
contract between the city of Chicago and
| a man named Brennock for removing
dead animals. His place of rendering
then, is in Indiana some place. He
called at my office one day and stated
there was train of dead animals down
| in the yards and they were getting offen-
sive and he could not get them out. [
sent my Secretary over to the headquar-
ters of the American Railway Union,
and they Immediately sent a crew down
to pull them out. but when they went
down to report to the officials of the rail-
road they put them on train loaded
with meat. and they pulled that out a
| distance and found they were deceived
and abandoned the train.n
After the Mayor had explained the
dead horse episode the commission adj
journed.
| COLORADO CONSPIRACY CASE.
a woman's Character Besmirched in
Order to Remove Her From Office.