St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-01-20

A1iEH'HOi' 1He 'pIdn QlQ not Ort
ginate with Mr.. Franklin?u
mo"
Mr.. Doran: "Did you receive contribu
tions for other persons?'
mot that l am aware OFF,
Mr.. Lightner: ''Can you state wha,
was said by any one in the office when
thls was suggested"
Nothing was said at the time. All
were willing to subscribe. / think MI
OBrlen objected and said il was bac
business. If it got out, he thought. il
would be bad business. said that |
could not see how 1t would. 1t was No
Drioe. We could hold our tongues. The
papers need not get hold of it.''
Mr.. Lightner asked if anything wa(
SAID about refunding the money.
Answer-Yes, there were Myers and
Kelllher wanted their money back after
the matter got out.
WAS Mr.. Franklin at the office a
that time?"
"Yes.o
WAS this after the election o,
Gauger?"
"Yes"
Mr.. Morris spoke up and said it wa,
about the 7th OF this month.
Witness-Mr. Franklin offered to give
the money back.
Mr.. Lightner = How did this hap.
pen?
MT. Kelliher came to my place and
told me to go TO the building inspectors
once. went up. Mr.. Franklin was
lhere, and wanted to give the money
back. He did not just have the money.
we were all there but Mr.. Morris. Mr..
Motifs was there, but ieft''
Mr.. Morris spoke up and said, "I
passed through the room.'
Witness - Yes, Mr.. Morris passed
through the room.
Questlon-Mr. Morris said he would
do his part3
Yes"
Did Franklin offer check?n
II did not see it."
IVY nat was the conversations"
Il don't remember the conyerss~
tion."
Mr.. Townley-Was Mr.. Franklin
member of any committee in 1892 hay.
Ing the ordinance in charge?
''No, SIR"
HE SAID he would not vote againstfi
II 1t became party measure?"
"Yes, Sir"
similar to that had with other members
OF the board of aldermen?"
"Yes, SIR"
This ended the examination of MIR.
Mccarthy.
Chairman Lightner then asked if
others desired to make a statement.
Mr.. Morris, speaking from his seat.
stated that what Mr.. Mccarthy had
said was true. He did not, in June.
1872. know Mr.. Franklin. 1t was moi
the intention TO offer bribe.
j. A. MEYER TEsTIFIEs.
j. A. Meyer then took the witness
chair and in answer to Mr.. Lightner's
questions said:
Il have been in Office since March.
1872. Am there yet. The first 1
knew about it was July Is, 1892.
on pay day. Mr.. MacCarthy went
around with paper saying that he was
making up fund of SIS month Tor
an alderman. l paid SLIGO month. I
did not know for few days who the
alderman was. 1 did not know this pay
ment was to be kept up every monthIuntiI
the next pay day came around and was
asked again, and paid. l heard few
days after the first payment that it was
to go TO Mr.. franklin, for his influence
as an alderman. 1t was kept up until
the 18th of October last. l paid $40 in
November. The assessments came
iOh fha
creased. did not inquire why had to
pay them"
'Did you think you were doing it to
make PRESENT."
II am sure 1 did not hear why 1t was
paid"
"Did you have conversation with
Mr.. Franklin?"
mot until the 5th of this month, Mr..
Franklin, Mr.. Kelliher and l were in the
office at the time. / Itelephoned from
the county attorneys Office for Mr..
franklin. He made an appointment to
meet US at the office. We met, and Mr..
Franklin wanted to pay the money
back. The object of the meeting was
to put him onto himself. We had an
other meeting the next day. Mr.. Wool
sey acted as spokesman, and said MIR.
Mccarthy would give a check for the
money paid. OF course, declined to
accept a check
Ibid Mr.. Franklin get this money?
Did he get it at the office?'
u did not see him at the off ce when
the II oney was collected. That accounts
for what Mr. Mccarthy said about me-
wanting my money back. would not
accept check and sign an affidavit"
"Would you have taken the money
back?"
Il certainly would. l would not make
the affidavit The check was to be paid
the following Wednesday. ALI of the
men in the office were to get their
money back. All in the office knew that
MIR. Franklin was to get the money
when it was collected"
Mr.. Chamberlain-Wha did you un-
derstand you were getting for your
money?
ut was talked right along, at least I
thought. and all the boys. that Mr..
Franklin was to stand by US"
"Did Mr.. Morris so understands
81 don't know"
"Did Others so understand it?"
"Mr. Mccarthy said so.''
Mr.. Townley-What amount was to
be paid back?
"The amount paid"
"Was the affidavit shown you?'
mo. Mr.. Franklin was to go and see
Mr.. Mum, and have the affidavit drawn
up"
Mr.. McCarthy-Did not tel! you that
Mr.. Franklin would not vote for that
ordinance?
mo, sir"
Wasn't you aware that Mr.. Franklin
voted against it?"
yes. He voted against il Wa oil