The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1894-07-24

nave gotten together mad IL not been IOr
that interview The Secretary of the
Treasury necessarily spoke in a great
measure for the President in matters re-
lating TO his department On the morning
following the publication of that inter
view the papers announced that the
President was in entire accord with
his great Secretary of the Treasury.
II that were not true, then the
forty-three democratic senators on this
side of the chamber had been misled. AS
a compromise Mr. German asserted that
the bill as completed was satisfactory to
not single, solitary human being in all
ltS details. But, as a whole, the struct-
ure presented, as scanned by the Secre-
tary of the Treasury and the President,
as looked at by us, was acceptable as the
best bill that could be passed
There was no suggestion anywhere,
either from the President or the Secre-
tary of the Treasury, that the bill, as
modified, was violation of democratic
principles. With dramatic emphasis, Mr.
German called upon Messrs. Vest, Jones
and voorhees, to bear testimony as to
whether his statements had varied
hairs breadth from the truth. Let the
people have the truth" said he, as he
paused.
VEST CoRROBORATEs GoRMAN.
Mr.. Vest arose. He began by saying
that he had not himself seen the Presi-
dent since the repeal of the Sherman law
last summer. But with the Secretary of
the Treasury ne had had frequent con-
situations Secretary Carlisle had re-
peatedly and distinctly stated to him that
the greatest possible calamity that could
happen would be the failure of any bill.
He had distinctly stated to him that no
difference in rates should be allowed to
stand in the way Of the consummation of
some scheme of tariff reform. His
colleague Mr.. Jones, had seen both Secre-
tary Carlisle and President Cleveland,
and they had both declared that
the bill was acceptable to them. The bill
did not suit him (Vest1. He knew it
must have the support of the administra-
tion to pass it, and he asked Mr.. Jones if
the President would throw the weight of
his influence in favor of it MIR. Jones re-
ported that the President said to him
II am willing to do anything to pass the
bill through congress"
If we go into this fight, the President
| must be behind us, ~ | said.
Mr.. Jones replied that he was
"Thereupon,N said Mr.. Vest, 81 gave
| up my personal opinions and resolved TO
support it. The Presidents letter was
the firse intimation to me that he was
| against us
JONES INTERVIEWS WITH CARLISLE.
When Mr.. Vest sat down Mr. Jones,
who was in charge of the bill in the Sen
ate took the floor. He was as pale as
| death but showed no signs of nervous
! ness. He realized, ne said, when the bill
| came to the Senate that it could not be
passed in its then form, and he had gone
| to work, he said, with infinite labor and
pains to interview every democratic sen
ator He ascertained every objection
they held, and had carefully noted them
| He had talked with Mr.. Carlisle
about his plan and the President indOrsed
it as wise. Then he (Jones) pre-
| pared the amendments in consultation
with Secretary Carlisle. The secretary
was thoroughly informed as to the situa-
| ton, and he (Jones) had said to him, II
will not go one step further If the admin
| istration is not behind me. | requested
| him to explain everything to the Presi-
! dent. | saw the President. He told me
| Secretary Carlisle had explained all, and
| he president Cieveland) said he thought
| we were doing the wise and proper thing.
| Among the amendments thus prepared
were those placing coal and iron on the
dutiable list. Until | read President
Clevelands letter to Mr. Wilson, " said
Mr.. Jones emphatically, 81 believed he
| cordially approved of our action. | had
expressed to him the opinion that it must
either be this modified bill or none at all,
tive he favored the modified measure"
Villas INTERROGATEs JONES.
AS Senator Jones sat down Mr.. German
arose to resume, but Mr.. Villas interposed
with series of questions 10 Mr. Jones.
I'm your interviews with the President" ,"
asked MIR. Villas, were the subjects Of
coal and iron ever mentionedl
YES replied Mr. Jones, with ex-
ploslve vehemence, "At every conver-
sation between the President and myself
coal and iron were specifically men
toned"
There was burst of applause from the
galleries which the presiding officer had
difficulty in checking.
And" continued Mr.. Jones with mea-
sured emphasis on each word 1.-THE Pres
ideut never once uttered one solitary word
against going ahead with coal and iron as
then in the Senate bill.'
zone more question, D." asked Mr.. Villas
"Did not the President express the hope
at all times that iron and coal should be
on the free listl"
AT all times, yes" said Mr.. Jones.
"But it was the expression of hope, and
the circumstances would not permit its
realization
MIR. German next summoned Senator
Harris as a witness, who stated that in
conversations with President Cleveland
ne hdrrlS) nau Deeu leu 10 COnCluQe Lnat
the President favored the passage Of the
compromise Senate bill, not because he
approved it, but because it was the best
that could be secured.
MR.. GoRMAN GROWS BITTER.
Mr. German here resumed with one of
the most sensational references of the day
TO President Cleveland The senator
spoke of his deep regret that he was co m
PEELED to ask the public testimony of these
senator's. But the time had come to
speak The limit of endurance had been
reached The Senate had been traduced.
An attempt had been made to try ,and
gibbet it before the country These
charges had been ''foully made from such
distinguished sources that they must be
met and refuted. The charges were
echoed by men who "chirped when he
talked These senators who had been
summoned mere fought for tariff reform
when towards In high places would not
show their heads"
Mr. German said he could conceive no
reason for the remarkable action that had
been taken, unless perhaps the one re-
sponsible for II was consumed by van
ity" in desiring 70 have the country re-
gard him as the author Of all that was
right in the tariff reform.
As MIR German made each reference 20
the President there was q commOtiOn In
the galleries which compelled the presid-
ing officer 10 nterpOse constant cautions
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