Abilene weekly reflector. [volume] (Abilene, Kan.) 1888-1935, 1894-08-30
PULLMAN TALKS.
The Sleeping Oar Magnate APP
pears Before the Commission.
REASONS FOR NOT ARBITRA1IyC.
Pullman Says Man Has = Right to Man.
age His Own Business-vIee Presl-
dent Wickes Tells the Part
He Played.

He Played
CHICAGO, Aug. 2s.-Georgc NJ. Pull
man was before the labor commission
for nearly three hours yesterday after
noon. In reply to queries BY Chair
man Wright, Mr.. Pullman told OF the
contracts for work undertaken by the
company at loss, IN order that the
men might be kept at work.
Judge Worthington asked; "As to
this reported declaration Of yours that
you had nothing to arbitrate, were you
correctly reported%
II have already explained my views
on that subject"
Turning the subject, Judge Worth
ington brought out the fact the COM
pany's original capital stock Of $1,000
600 in 1867 had increased to $36, 600, 900;
that the company had paid dividends
Of " per cent. during the first two
years Of It's organization, OK per cent.
during the next two years and 8 per
cent, annually since, and at the same
time had accumulated a surplus
amounting to sa5,OOO,OOO. lie also
elected the statement that the stock
Of the Pullman Land association
was entirely in the possession Of
the Pullman Palace Car Co., having
been acquired gradually by the invest
ment Of the car company's surplus
earnings in the certificates Of the land
association, The original 500 acres on
which the town stands was acquired
by the car company on legal advice and
by the authority of its charter, which
gave it right to acquire land to the
amount needed in the business opera
tions of the company.
Referring to the stocks of the com
pany, Mr.. Pullman said it represented
actual cash paid by the Stockholders
as the capital was needed, and the
capital stock was increased for the
legitimate business Of the company.
There was no water in it and none OF
it represented dividends.
Coming back to the question Of arbi-
tration, Mr.. Pullman said he remem-
bered no formal attempt to get him to
arbitrate with the men. lie had de-
clarcd his willingness to arbitrate.
1.-THE only question with me-" he said,
twas whether the shops at Pullman
should be closed or whether we should
put prices so low as to command all
the work available in the country. II
was not the amount Of loss, but the
principle involved that made me averse
to arbitration"
'Now, Mr.. Pullman" said Commits
sioner Worthington, taking the whole
year through, has the Pullman Co.
made or lost money!"
ut has made money" was the an
swer
lyon have paid your regular divi-
dends?"
Eyes, sir; per cent"
vo, have na;d out IN aSu;dands ~ H.
yearp,
uva. INT Aim. ;no,,,aos .,o ,.+.o~
cart Of tbe vorld,s fa;r saason uh;oh
was excent;onal
"ret me- ask Won Mn Pullman
whetber Won do not th;nL n oomnonv
that nave d,v;doras "a % soo mn oo,,Ia
not afford 10 share the losses ~ it,
smnloves who have ,yor,,ad Tor II ca
lonopi
"Tbe manufacturing hus;ness is son.
arate from the business Of tho sleenino
car ,omn,nv I seq M reason wbv
sbould take tbe nrotits "a tho Soo
stoel,hol,,ers in tba prllmon sloon;rr
Car Co and nav men n higher rate of
wages than was Maid in other narts ~
the countnv fon thn cana yorL or thor
,yas maid hv othor oomnor;as Gov
the same worL nocorsa yo ho va
been careful and accumulated srr.
nlus 7 do NOT 500 that If ;s n raason
whv we should taxa tbe srrnlrs now
and nav # ont for excentionallv b;oh
wages
"uas the Pullman comnanv durinc
the years Of IFS nrosneritv ever ad.
yanced The wages Of its emnloves vol.
untarilyq"
81 do not know as to that n bas
a,wavs sought 10 INV fo,r ,racas ord
the fact that we have never had Init
one strike Is nrettv Good evidence that
tho NOV haua hosn sot,seoan
kAIVba< do WY, caa tbat 10 obio.%
able in submitting difference like this