The evening world., 1894-06-19

exempt. That. was the consideration
when the ward was bought"
hsG 70 pay pay my N.Y. share of fna it
TT was sent UP to DIVERS place"
What place was that?''
"a saloon on Chatham street, next
the hat store"
you mean Patrick Divver?"
yes"
"Do you know whether Mr.. Diver is
in the saloon business now7" asked Mr..
II think not. heard he was a Police
Justice or something OF that sort now"
Then Divers place was the head
quarters of the business. and paying
tenn"
Yes, and 1t was where, the, gang
spent all the money. We used to deposit
our bank roll in the safe in DIVERS
was 81, 900 in our rolls. 1t was the regu-
lar thing with all the bunco men"
THAT was the capital on which you
did your bunco business?" asked Chair
man Lexow:
Yes. SIR"
Divvcr Backed Pnrmcley.
DO you know who started Parmeley
in the bunco business"
Yes. 1 understood 1t was Diver. He
gave Parmeiey n chance to get in
ID, Did he pay Diver liS.s,d any of the pro-
eesds OF the tbnS Sui'ness hs did good doo, o,
the money which we had to pay for
squealers was paid to Diver. l saw
Parmeley pay a big roll to Diver one
"As he gave It over to him he said:
This Is hard money to give up There
was about $500. representing half we
made that day, on account Of the police
getting squealers."
Central Onicc Men In II.
"Did not some OF the money for
squealers go to Police Headquart ers?'
Yes: the Central Office men often
used to get hold Of the victims and they
would bring them down to us and make
us give up half. just like the ward men.
Detective Heidelberg used to bring down
the Headquarters squealers usually and
collect the money"
Wasn't there a row between the
Headquarters men. and the ward men
"Oh, yes: They both tried to get all
they could. and the result was most
every victim fell into the hands of one
or the other. and that finally broke up
DO you remember who was the ward
man OF the Fourth Ward in those days?,
There WAS one named Carr we used
Captains name was Murray, l think. or
perhaps he was the Inspector; but the
sergeant was Mcakim.'
Clark said that the First Ward was let
to a bunco man named Wall. This ward
was regarded as the best in the city be-
cause the protection was better and 1t
was easier TO work. Besides, more VIC
tins were to be secured there.
The Whole City Sold by Wards.
The whole city. he said, was divided
up in this fashion and let out by the
police to the bunco men. In the Fourth
.erh
II have seen thousands of dollars
spent at DIVERS in an evening"" said
Clark, "and have spent as much as $500
there myself of a night. l don't know
anything about the place of late years,
except that the saloon is still there, =,
hold was Captain there. After Berg
holds time he did not know ANYTHING
about how things went in that part OF
AT. this point the examination of
Clark was suspended and a recess was
taken.
"A rumor that Police Commissioner
Sheehan would go on the witness stand
this afternoon was said by Mr.. Goff to
be without any foundation. Sheehan
had not been summoned
Chairman Lexow during the recess
told an Evening World" reporter that
he thought Clark's testimony was the
most remarkable that had yet been
given before the Committee, not only
police officials directly in sfafihg With
thieves and crooks in the proceeds OF
their crimes. but that the latter were
actually aided by the authorizes in car
rying on their criminal pursuits.
The testimony was also rendered all
the more sensational because 1t con-
nected Police Justice Diver with the
bunco swindling business.
", George Apo; the green-goods man
VINO testified last week. was in the
courtroom during the afternoon ses-
sion and listened with great apparent
was recalled.
Thrcc-Card Monte Games.
The latter told Mr.. Goff that he had
told all he knew about the bunco game.
but he had something to say about the
had also backed. There were four OF
these places, all in the Fourth Ward.
Three OF the monte joints were fitted
up as bars, with an eating room in the
rear. The game was played in the rear
room.
The fourth was rugged up as a railroad
yer frequently in Parmeley's monte Joint.
lte would come In and take drink with
the boys.
II went out Of the business in 1856. be-
cause the places were broken up. ] was
In the sawdust business for FIVE weeks,
but drew out and went down Feast"
broken up?'
II don't know but Walling went out
and Murray went in aS Superintendent,
and we couldn't get any protection after
that. The places ran for while, but
they were all Closed up eventually"
Parmely, he said, had started the saw
dust game. but found II could not be
made to pay. For the last two or three
years he had been leading an honest
life and working at his trade, which
was dealing in rubber goods.
"Did you ever know this MANI" asked
Mr.. Con, pointing to Apo. who sat
behind him.
He Knew George Apo.
YES l could swear that was George
Apo, though l haven't seen him in
eight years"
Fs "Fs%ssSWsre never arrested in New
only once. and that was after /
went out OF the bunco business
was locked up at Police eHadQuarters
over night, but discharged at Jeffer-
son Market the next morning"
THE police knew your business in
those days?"
"Yes. sir: perfectely.'
They knew Appos business. too.
suppose?" a.,
And yet you were never interfered
WITH"
Never"
Ex-Judge Ransom then took the wit
ness in hand, Clark said he was 6fty-