Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1894-08-23
THE OTHER SIDE.
RAILROAD AND PULLMAN WITNESSES
BEFORE THE STRIKE COMMISSION.
Tho Advantages Of Living In the Sleeping.
Car Town-Charge Of Dsllying
With Liquor There.

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opening OF this mornings session OF the
National Labor Commission. Chairman
Wright announced that the majority Oh
witnesses for labor had been heard. ana
that the railroads and the Pullman COM
pany would now be allowed to present
their side of the case. I'VE nave sti'''
continued Mr. Wright, "a number OF iapor
leaders to hear, who live outside OF chi
cago. but who have not yet peen aoie
to get here. They will be heard at the
proper time. In the mean time we nave
been furnished by the Pullman company
and by the railroads with large nunioer
OF names OF witnesses. These VIII now
be called in the order in which they ap-
pear on the list"
The first witness was Frank W. t.
Glover. a Chicago real estate agent. MI.
Glover deals in property at kehshs'oh'
a suburb adjoining the town OF PuiiHah'
He said that from an outside ihspec'ioh
Of the Pullman hOuses-he had never peeh
inside OF them-they were much more III
viting than the ones rented by hlh d.
Kensington for $l2 n month. lie sa'u
there was no sewerage at kensinstoh, anu
no repairing there. as there IS at run
man, He declared rents had not been
reduced at kensington.
III were a poor man." said Mr.. Glover
land had family, ! should prefer very
much to live I'm pullman rather than IN
Kensington. The surroundings are 80
much more beautiful in Pullman, ana the
place 80 moral: would rather pay e UT
g month more for the same acco'ii''o
dations in Pullman" .,o
Paul Hermes. an ex-empIoyee VI @
Pullman company. now news-ascht
there. testified that he thought his resi-
dence OF nine rooms in Pullman was chesp
at So month. He would not i've III
Kensington under any circumstances on
account OF the offensive sewers. nc
thought that II the Pullman employees
had let whiskey and beer alone they Wouiu
not have had nearly 40 much distress.
on cross-examination Hermes could not
estimate how large propor'ioh VI Wv
Pullman population used liquor TO eA-
cess.
PULLMAN PROPERTY.
7, II. Johnson testified as TO the cohi-
narrative value of property in Pullman,
Kensincton. and Roseland. He could GET
houses for less money in f'oseland OF
Kensineton, he said but ha did not g.
as good a house for the money as III
Pullman. The Pullman employees "efe
temperate for the most part and OF eco
nomic,l habits He testified that rents
had remained stationary in the SUBURBS OF
Pullman. and that a house which rented
for Sl7 IN Pullman would cost sl2 OUT
side. a..
William Mckay, a reporter Tor the
Chicago Mail. testified that he had been
present at many labor meetings, ana ne
never heard the strike leaders couhsei
violence.
How were you impressed with their
speeches. asked Judge Worthingtoh'
"Did you think they were sincere OF
were they simply so much buncomDe
al thought the speakers were sincere
BENJAMIN Atwell another reporter, tol-
lowed He had seen no real violence uone
by railroad employees. He had heard, ne
said. strikers counsel their companions
during the trouble at Blue Island not TO
commit overt acts.
Alexander Lunggruen, pullman EN-
ployee was the first witness 70 TESTIFY
AT the afternoon session. He thought he
had been treated fairly by the Pullman
company. Employees, he said were not
afforded an opportunity 10 tell their grew
ances. That was the main dlfhcuIty. lie
returned to work at Pullman after me
strike. and was Obliged to sign an agree
ment to have nothing further TO do with
The American Railway Union in order to
get his position back.
INCENDIARIES ALL BOYS.
John Fitzgerald. Assistant Fire Marshal
OF Chicago. read a long list of cars, tow
ers and other property burned. showing
great loss to the railroads The oldest
person he ever saw setting fire to cars
was 10 years OF age. All the rest Were
mere boys He had seen no railroad en-
ployees doing incendiary work. once rail-
road-men helped him to extinguish a
blaze He had seen a man cut iire-hose'
but did not recognize him. The crowds
had never obstructed the work of the de-
partment that he knew. He did not
know whether the incendary boys had
been instigated by strikers.
Or. John Mclean, OF Pullman. told the
attitude of the company towards the
men injured while at work. His duty was
to care for all such men until they re-
covered. He did not think a hospital ne
cessary at Pullman. He said the com
pany paid the expenses at a hospital down
town OF all men hurt while in it's employ.
Or. Mclean asserted that the trouble
AT Pullman was. in measure. duc 10 the
use OF liquor by the employees. In 4,cV
cases Of injury the witness had never seer
the company refuse to pay all the eX-
nenses connected Herewith. besides drug
store bills amounting to $1,000 annually.
The commission will hear Superintend-
ent-of- Police Brennan tomorrow morning
The commissioners declined TO say
whether they would summon George NJ
Pullman or Vice President Wickes Com
missioner Wright said that In dealing WIKI
the railroad side only the Illinois Central
and Rock Island railroads would be con
sidered, these being the roads designated
by President Cleveland. I'VE have no
power to compel the general managers
of other roads 10 attend said MT
Wright, except as they are able To give
Testimony hearlng on those two roads"