Evening journal., 1894-06-05
senator vests Testimony.

Senator Vest said that Mr. Carlisle v1s3
I'm the committee room from time to time
and consulted with the members of the
committee I'm regard TO the tariff bill; that
he expressed great anxiety that the com
mittee should agree upon some measure
and that it should become law, but he
made no statement about party obligations
to the sugar trust. Mr.. Vest said e. had an
indistinct recollection of Mr. Carlisle
drawing up provision in regard TO sugar,
but he did not know who received it, nor
did he know that he had ever seen it. At
any rate it was not the schedule that was
adopted, and If he did prepare schedule
his preparation OF it had no connection
with the reported scene ina the committee
room, which never occurred.
He pronounced as "a lie made out Of
whole cloth the story that he had chang
cd front on sugar and had said that he
would be compelled 10 cease associating
with Joe Rickcy because of the suspicion
which might be aroused by tho fact that
Hickey was a spcoulator. Il was for free
sugar nc said, but l was finally COM
PEELED 60 favor / cent pound on raw sug
ar and no duty on refined sugar and no ad
yalorem
Mr.. Vest said that while the bin was in
| committee Mr.. Havcmeyor had come to
his house. and had brought him samples
and had spread thom out, and had ex-
plainod the difference between the ad va
loren and specific systems, but there was
no secrecy or concCalment about his visit
He had como rs any other manufnc-
turer would and had lRpde an argument
| for what he wanted. Delegations repre-
/ senting the Louisiana interest had also
called ON him.
Closing his testlomny, Mr. Vest said:
! Il have never used my official position for
| private purposes. Any statement that
have is absolutely false, as is also any
statement that ! evcr gave any informa-
tion or had any connection with the Sug-
ar trust-that Is also absolutely false II
anybody can make the denial broader,
wish he would do so.n
senator voorhees, Denies.
Senator VOORHEES, was first asked about
the report Of Secretary Carlislo's recent
visit TO tho finance committee and his de
mand for protection TO sugar because o
| campaign contributions. He denied thai
amy such interview had ever taken place.
Il never, said he, talked with Mr.
Carlisle ON the subject Of sugar but once
ana that was i'm the Office of the secretary
and n was early i'm the tarih work whor
we discussed the question of the polari
scopic test and the question of specific o
ad valorem duties I never heard the sub
icct of. contributions by the Sugar trus
discussed In regard TO tariff legislation bl
the secretary Of the treasury or indoc'
among ourselves. l never saw Mr.. Have
meyer and should not know him If
should meet him. Nor do I know hu
man being who belongs 90 the trust
Senator voorhees, also said ho had nevc
seen the memorandum on she sugar sched
ulo which AIR Carlisle was alleged TO hay
prepared and handed 20 him. Mr.. Nooi
hces said that he had boon In frcquen
computation with Secretary Carlisle o.
arious other features Of the tariff, an
! shat having been member of the com
mittce for l7 years he knew It to be Oh
practice Of the committee 20 consult wit
the secretary demonstrating financial maj
tiers.
Mr. Voorhees, also declared that thel
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