Waterbury evening Democrat., 1894-07-24

a position where must tell tho story as it occurred. Tho limit of endurance has been reached-h
 Mir. German then proceeded to detail the senate and tho manner in which to meet the objections and secure the sup port of certain disaffected Democrats the changes had been agreed upon. He stated emphatically that during the progress of this work Messrs. Vest and Jones had frequent conferences with Secretary Car lisle and oftentimes with Mir. Cleveland himself. No material sacrifice of princi- pal was made The result was as he had declared on a previous occasion, Demo cratic measure which, in his opinion leaned toward the radical tariff reform sentiment, and which, he thought would receive the support of a Democratic house, senate and president He believed then as he believed now that he had authority for that statement Ho charged directly that every one of tho senate amendments had beon seen by Secretary Carlisle and scanned by him before they wero agreed upon He drew from his desk and had read m interview with Secretary Carlisle on April 30, in which the secretary of tho treasury gave the same bill his sweeping indorscment
 Carlisle and Cleveland Approved.
 After the reading of the Carlisle inter- view Mir. German led up to one of tho most dramatic episodes of tho day (the summoning of Messrs. Vest, Jones and Harris as witnesses to his statement that the president approved the senate compro- mise) by making the following remarks:
 ''Such was tho declaration of tho secrc- tary of the treasury. That statement from him had probably wonderful effect. It softened the hard places with which wo met when we came to confer and to act. It was accepted. It did much to enable us to bring together 43 senators in this body. I repeat that but for 1t do not be- licve we ever should have succeeded in getting together But it did not stop there. It was not alone the secretary of the treasury, who necessarily speaks for the president in matters concerning his department. The president was not igno- rant of what we proposed to do Nothing was concealed from him. The papers an nounced on the day following tho inter view with MT. Carlisle that the president himself concurred with his great secre tary. So we understood, and, if it Is not true, then i3 senators on this sido of the chamber have been misled.
 Every prominent amendment to the | bill was as well known to him as to me. | Neither the president nor his secretary was in love with all the provisions of these | amendments. Aye. sir, I may say in fair ness that there were many of them to which they wore opposed, as the senator from Missouri and the senator from Ar kansas and the distinguished chairman of the committee on finance were opposed to | many of them, and, as it was a compro- | misc measure it was not satisfactory to a | single, solitary human being on this side I of the chamber in all its details, but as- scrt that as n whole the structure, as pre- sentcd, as scanned by these gentlemen, some of whom I have named, including | us, was satisfactory and was recognized | as the best that it was possible to pass | through this body and that from no quar- | ter, high or low, neither from the presi- | dent, through his cabinet nor by any member of this body. was it ever suggest cd or intimatcd that there was any viola tion of Democratic principle in anything we did.
 Vest and Jones Summoned.
 Mir. President, this is very broad statement. I call upon the two gentlemen who had the immediate control of the bill | the senator from Missouri (Mr. Vest) and the senator from Arkansas MT. Jones) and ask them If they have n statement | which varies hairs breadth from this truth, and it is due to the senate, it Is due to themselves, it is due to me, it Is due to the country, that the truth shall be known. Let the people have the truth. I pause for n reply from my friend from Mis- souri,
 Mir. Vest said Secretary Carlisle had told him that tho greatest calamity that could happen to the Democratic party and to the country would he the failure to pass u tar, iff bill Senator Jones had seen the pres ident and Secretary Carlisle, and both had told him that tho bilI as proposed to b, amended by the addition of the 100 lone: amendments, would bc perfectly satisfac I hn,, f.l .l0 lftNr with these words, am willing to do ol say anything to pass this bill through congress. v
 II told Senator Jones'" said MT. Vest that If we got into this fight we mus
 have the president behind us" Mir. Jonet assured him that this was a fact, and h. (Mr. Vest) gavo up his personal opinions
 and for tho first time, when hc heard o
 tho president letter to Chairman Wilson
 he learned that the president was agains
 them. Laughter and applause, whicl
 the president pro tenn, MT Harrts, check
 ed.
 While theso revelations wcre in prog
 rcss on the Democratic side tho Republic
 an senators smiled approvingly.
 Senator Aldrich remarked to Senate Sherman that 1t was very interesting t hear the truth of how the bill was framed
 Senator Jones' Statement.
 Senator Jones explained how he lahore
 to bring the I3 Democratic senators tc
 gethcr, and also how he called upon tn secretary of the treasury and went owe tho bill item by item, and requested hir $ to present the situation tn the president
 This was before any of the amendment
 were introduced in tho senate
 After going to Secretary Carlisle, Jone
 called on the president three days late U and informed him that mono of the pro posed amendments had been introduced He further told the president that tn Q amendments would not be introduced UT
 less he was assuroI of the support of tn president. The president reply was UT ) mistakably in favor of the bill as prC . posed
 $ Senator Villas undertook to qucstio - the accuracy Of Jones statement, an y asked if during his frequent converss . tiOns with the president, tho question coal and iron was mentioned.
 Yes" replicd Jones defiantly. Il t every conversation had with the pres '- dent on tho subject Of tho tariff coal an s iron wore repeatedly mentioned. F Therc was n burst of applause at tn l. clear cut roply to Villas question. whiC - spread from tho floor to the galleries an y Villas sank into his seat as if ho had r :. ceived a knockout blow.
 Harris Confirms It. U Senator German then called upon Sol . ator Harris, the president pro tom. of u senate, to givo the result of his varioI
 conversations or interviews with tho pro n ident on the subject of the compromi - bill
 He stated with groat positivencss tn |, the president repeatedly said that ho T alized that the compromise bill was n a all that he desired. but he appreciated tn - it was n great improyemcnt oyor the NJ " Kinley bill, and therefore he desired tn r. the bill should become n law as it pass y the senate, providing no better tern l. coIlld bo made The strength of Harr