The Washington times., 1894-04-05

that he was In O measure responsible, since
their lives had become interviewer.
"There were no expressions OF Affection
"There were expressions Of affectionate in
terest, but not such as could be construed into
an intimation that our relations could ever be
on different basis than they were"
"Then 1t was a sort Of business interest for her
welfare."
"Expressions of kindly interest"
"were there expressions which might be un-
derstood by her to be expressions of love"
| Col Breckinridge wished to draw the dis
tinction carefully between expressions and
| demonstrations. He said there was nothing
but perfect understanding on their part OF
their relations; that they went to houses
| of a. certain character for a certain well
understood purpose; they stayed there such a
time rs their pleasures or necessities
demanded. II took her in my arms aud
kissed her; there were all the accompani-
| ments of such a relation, which was carried
| out-not cruelty or brutally."
"There were no expressions of love on her
part?"
II would not say that. She was at times very
demonstrativc, ct times otherwise"
"Your relations were those of lust rather than
lover"
~ would not saJ that, for we met often at
times when physical intercourse was impossible.
She was n Young woman Of colloquial talents,
sprightly and interesting"
Again Mr., Wilson led the colonel to repeat
the distinction he drew between the injury to
/ the young woman and the destruction OF n
young woman from illicit relations.
And do you THINK" he added, "that a man is
under obligations to prevent the destruction OF a
young woman.'
most assuredly do. And If he does not he
should be punished. l have had my punish
ment, and am trying to take it without COM
plaint"
Then Mr.. Wilson asked when the subject of
marriage had first been mentioned. to which
the colonel replied that it was in September
of 1892 when she first spoke OF going to Ber-
lin. He had told her that for many reasons,
among them disparity between their ages as
she was young woman and he an old man,
and thai since he knew what he did OF her
relations to Rhodes that she had bled him
three years and thrown him away like a
sucked orange marriage between them was
impossible.
'.You had contract as binding as hers to
Rhodes?"
'Much more binding" replied the colonel, re-
ferring 10 his marriage
Then Mr. Wilson got his affirmative answers
to the questions that Miss Pollard had asso-
ciated with the best families of Kentucky in
the city. had lived in houses OF the highest
responsibility, and was a brilliant young
woman.
''Your relations were carefully concealed"
asked the attorney, $50 that there were no i'm
pediments in that direction"
I'VE had endeayored to conceal them but they
were known to several people"
There was never from you any proposal of
MARRIAGE"
Never under any circumstances" most en-
phatically
"Then it was understood that you were to
carry out the semblance OF a marriage contract
which you both understood was never TO be full
hlled?"
There was the semblance of a contract to be
carried out before only one living person, and
that was Mrs. Governor Blackburn
&Ia Cd, fal hot
the contract before Mrs. Blackburn had been
TO enable Miss Pollard to die out of his life
and separate from Mrs Blackburn.
"And with view to enabling her 10 die out Of
your life and Mrs Blackburns you took her 10
Mrs Blackburn and said you would place her
under Mrs. Blackburns careS"
II did not My recollection and the recollec-
tion of Mrs, Blackburn upon that point differ as
TO the meaning of my words
And you went 10 see Mrs Blackburn again
alone.'
~ went TO see her several times afterward."
"And you caressed plaintiff III her presence
q point Of that deception
Il did not caress the plaintiff. ] will explain
that"
But what passed there was for the purpose of
carrying out the deception
'Indubitably."
Turning from this line Of questioning. Mr..
Wilson handed to the witness fac smile of
the certificate of marriage between himself
and Mrs. Wing in New York, April go. and
made him point oui his handwriting upon it.
How many times have you been married be-
fore this"
Twice
"But you have written here that it is your Sec
ond marriage"
Il will tell you how that happened When
! came to that ! turned to DR.. Paxton and asked
him ii must fill that out. He was an old friend
aud knew all about it. he said that might say
II had been married before. that ii was my
ond marriage, and did it, He was suffering
from nervous headache, and asked me TO ill
out the certificate.
In answer TO further questions Col Breck-
inrdge said that be had asked Dr. Paxton TO
keep the marriage secret until next Fall.
After the second public marriage in July he
had written the doctor not to make the secret
marriage public.
Where did you stop in New York after your
marriage"
.'At the Logereau, family hotel at Eighteenth
and Broadway"
And how did you register"
AS William J. Campbell and wife"
Where did Mr.. and Mrs Campbell purport to
come from?f
~ do not remember whether I registered from
any place"
Miss Pollard was then in New York?'
~ cannot undertake 10 say whether she had
arrived then"
You sent certain kilograms to Mrs Black
burn then?'
II do not remem mber having sent those tele-
grams. l will not say that did not. l would
have sent them if had been asked to-"
Mr.. Wilson then read the direct testimony
OF the colonel regarding the first interview
with Mrs. Blackburn. upon which the colonel
commented that he had told the whole truth
about it. Then Mrs. Backburn's testimony was
read. and Mr.. Wilson asked him if it had oc-
Cured, to which the colonel replied that she
had recollected 1t differently from the way he
said it: that she had construed his expressions
oil gratitude for what she done in the past
into requests for her protection in the future.
DO you deny?' asked Mr. Wilson, that you
said 10 Mrs Blackburn, ! intend TO marry this
young woman VIXEN a sufficient time has elasped
after the death of my wife "
..My recollection is that nothing was said about
my wife at that interview. Mrs. Blackburn
seems TO have confused that with subsequent
interview"
All of Mrs. Biackburn's statements being
read to him categorically, the colonel said
that Mrs. Blackburn's recollections differed
on all those points from his own. He denied
that he had said that he was 81 years older
than the plaintiff, was sure that he had not
said that she supposed he was foolish to marry
n woman so much younger than himself He
was sure that Mrs. Blackburn must have
confused things said by the plaintiff about
the matter with what he had said and
must have put into her own language her un-
derstandin@ of his statements.
~ am sure have recollection OF that he
said, when confronted with Mrs. BlacSburns
statement that he was giving poor return for
all the devotion of his wife.
Il deny that that occurred in that way and in
that connection was his answer when Mr..
Wilson pinned him down to a direct statement