Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1894-06-11
Mr.. E..R. Chapman to Be Presented
to the Senate.
HIS Case TO GO TO THE GRAND JURY
Senator Caffery Explains His Former
Testimony in the Case.
NJ r. REED A WITH ESS

E. r. Chapman, the New York broker,
member of the firm of Moore & Schey, who
was before Senator Gray's sugar trust in
vestigating committee Saturday was at the
Capitol today but did not again go before
the committee. He said in an interview
that he should not volunteer another ap-
pearance, as he could not see his way clear
to answer the questions put by the commit
tee. Mr.. Chapman was excused on Satur-
day that he might have opportunity to
think over the request Of members Of the
committee to state whether they the COM
mitteemen) had been speculating In sugar
stocks through his firm.
The Purpose of the Committee.
II can. Of course see the purpose Of the
committee said Mr.. Chapman. which is
in case break my rule for them to have
every member of the Senate make a like
request. l do not think the Senate has any
right to make a drag-net inquiry like this.
and should resist it."
Mr.. Chapman said that, IL afforded an
other opportunity, he would add reason
to those already given for compliance with
Senator Brices request, and refusing in the
case Of members Of the committee. Sen
ator Brice.'' he said. has been accused Of
speculating In sugar stock through our
firm None Of these Senators has been so
have been dabbling in this stock. and l
should call especial attention to the fact
that If such charge has been made
against any of them their names have not
been connected with our house. as has the
name Of Senator Brice"
VIII Report Him to THE Senate.
The committee has decided to report M.
Cbapman's refusal to answer its questions
to the Senate and will probably not ask
him to appear again. The proceedings will
be similar to those in the cases of Edwards
end Shriver. The committee will report the
facts. Accompanying the report will be
full transcript of Mr.. Chapman's testimony,
with resolution directing, the Vice Presi-
dent to certify the facts to the district at
torney, who is expected to proceed against
Mr. Chapman by taking the matter before
the grand jury.
Senator Canrey's Testimony.
Senator Caffery went before the commit
tee today al his own request, to amplify the
statement heretofore made by him con-
cerning his meeting with Mr.. Havemeyer
at Senator Brice's house. He was reported
in his former testimony to have said that
he had been requested to see Mr.. Have
meyer. who happened to be In Senator
Brice's house." but he had not stated the
manner in which Mr.. Havemeyer happened
to be the1e. which he wished to do today
prior to seeing Mr. Hsyemeyer," Mr..
Caffery said. there ssas z dfscussion be-
tween those present and ex-senator White
and myself as to the comparative merits
of the ad valorem and specific rates of
duty on sugar. There was a great deal of
difference of opinion on this point. and
Senator Brice stated that there was a gen
tleman in the city at the Arlington Hotel.
| who knew more about the operation Of any
given rate of duty on sugar than perhaps
any other man in the United States, and
| that II IT were agreeable he would send for
| him.
THAT man " as Mr.. Havemeyer, who was
then. according to Mr.. Brice's statement. at
| the Arlington. Senator Brice asked me II
| I had an objection to meeting Mr.. Have
meyer and having a discussion with him
on this particular point 1 told him 1 had
not"
Mr.. Caffery said that accordingly Mr.
Havemeyer was sent for and. in answer to
q question as to what took place. Mr.. Caf-
| fiery said: 1T was there that had a dis
cussion. in room by myself. in Mr.
Brice's library where 1 was invited by Mr.
Brice to meet Mr.. Havemeyer and discuss
| the sugar schedule with him on the point
Of ad valorem and specific rates. l simply
desire to state that Mr.. Havemeyer came to
| the house in pursuance Of the invitation Of
| Mr.. Brice."
Mr. Reed Examined.
Mr.. Henry r. Reed went before the COM
mittee at 2 o'clock and was examined at
some length. He said before going into the
committee room that he had been wrongly
represented as a member of the sugar
trust. He was. he said. a member Of the
| Revere Company Of Boston, a competing
concern. land that" he added, ''is why I
am here, and have no apologies to make
for being here in my interest OF course"
| he continued, I'VE have the same concern
| in the protection of refined sugar that the
| trust has. Furthermore. may say that our
| finn owns some Of the trust stock; but that
| Is not what we are trying to protect That
| stock we could sell and get out If we
wished, but ours is not a corporation"
Mr.. Reed aoded that he knew nothing Of
any speculation in sugar stocks by United
| States Senators.