The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1894-07-26
tho intention OF getting Carrie smith
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"oniccr katz made the charge said
the witness.
" Then you permitted katz to make a
false charge although you wcr" his SUI
pcr.or officer. and lct her escape
Mr. Frpmln" objected thht tn girl cs,,
capped punishment h"caus" IN" Court did
not consider The cyil,nc" sufficient on
which to convict, Hlihuugh the law said
that one woman could Keep dlsoriery
house N on" room. the officer could not
De held responsible because IN" Judge H.
CtIrl Utnur"isr.
TIE objection Was sustained. and MIR.
WUIlfnan returned tu IN" attack
you have denied Mrs Thuru@,s state
munt that you told her mat II the cleo
ton wenl right sh" might buy some
l.uums nnl put them ~ over her door
IN celebration " tn victory. ) on know
sh" did buy tnon and put them up?'
YES, sir
Sow. Notwithstanding that Sou deny
that you ever took 50 Il month FOR the
Captain and so for yourself from Mrs.
Thuruw in payment for not molesting
her, 1t - fac, that rom the ,inG OF
that rata in v"tohcr, iS2 down to Jan.
9. the time when you l"ft the precinct,
you meyer made an Arrest
~ never arrested any one there. Chc
was not living thcr"
What II has been testified her" by
your fellow officers that sh" lid get all
her meals th"r" and did live there ex-
c"pt that sh" slept IN her nat some
where else, ana you hay" Saih yonrS'ii
that you watched the house day and
night and saw women going In and out.
Mc"han said hesitdtingly that he did
not know she was the proprietress then.
Mcehnn Kindly Nnttied.
what! When she had pleaded guilty
well, thought ii had been turned
into a furnished room house.
"Nuw, !'ui testimony indicates that
II was running exactly as II had been
when the woman pleaded guilty. surely;
she was In "A position to know what kind
of n house she kept, and she pleaded
guilty"
Moehan was silent.
Doherty. n handsome. broad shouldered
giant with gentle voice.
capt. Doherty has strong re-
semblance in face as well as stature
to big Tom" Brennan the ex-Chari-
ties and misunderstanding Commits
sioner.
Capt. Doherty testified that he had
been twcnty-tour years a policeman.
and only four complaints had ever been
made against him.
- have been rerrimanded. once and
gether; the latter being over twenty
years ago." said the Captain, proudly.
You have heard the allegations Of
Mrs. Augusta Thurow. that she paid
frommc rs that true?"
mo. sir. Each and every allega ton
d maIe , by her RI, against gir me Is untrue
she testified that she visited you n
few days after that raid OF october,
1872. and made arrangements with you
for protection of her In her business
that you told her would not press her
hard: that she suggested that she pay
81 a month, and that you replied that
you would send M"ehan around. Is
that true
1T is not true. 1t is false. never
made any arrangement with this
woman then or at any other time, and
the subject of money for protection was
not raised nor even mentioned
Contrndicts Mrs. Thurow.
"Dii she call on you at or . o'clock
on the evening of Jan. t. 1893. at the
station-hOus""'
she dil not" Turning to the blotter
FOR that date Mr. Fromme read entries
station. house for supper and tour duty
at o'clock and did not return until
ll.3O o'clock.
The Captain said he wrote the entries
ana that they were true and indicated
his movements on that evening,
Mr.. Fromme offered the blottrr to
show that there were no female prison
srs Jan. 8. in opposition to Mrs.
zie Meyer there that night, and to back
up Lizzie Meyers statement that she
was never In the station-house except
as prisoner.
That was very important, AS Lizzie
couldn't tell anything about what hap
pened the only time she was In the sta
tion. and contradcted herself com
pletely.
The Captain said. regarding Mrs.
Thurow's story that he spelled the new
ward mans name "H-o-c-h' for her to
write down az the person she was to do
business with in the future:
II have been spelling that mans
name Hook for years; and 1 never
spelled II any other way
"Did Mrs. Thurow ever visit you in
your room in the station"
mo. sir; never. IL she had, I would
have locked her up"
Capt. Doherty described the charac-
teristics OF the Fourteenth Precinct. He
said that the lower part of the precinct
was filled with tenement houses and
with lawbreaking women. and 1t is
by mere chance. When that class get
into tensment-houses; they, are almost
out of the reach OF the police.
Difficult 10 Get Evidence.
1t is very difficult for the police tc
get evidence for conviction against hi,
class of women in tenements," said tn,
Captain. Furnishod-room houses are
almost as bad. IL being very difficult &c
obtain the sort of evidence required 10y
the police courts against the occupants
of these furnished rooms.
The precinct IL fun of Anarchists
! Socialists and other turbulent elements
| There IL an immense foreign population
| there, having 10 knowledge OF or inter
! est in our insti .utions. and knowing lit
| tie of our language.
There are great many felonies
committed in the precinct, and oui
| felony list will show an immens.
amount of work done by our men In
detecting the perpetrators. for they hide
| themselves in many lodging houses"
I'VE had only ninety men in our fore,
/ for all this work. with an average Of
| eight or nine on the sick list"
| Then YOU could not give your undi
Vided attention to - Second avenue
could you" asked MIR. Fromme.
| I'VE had a very troublesome precinct
| shortly after took charge reports cam,
| TO me OF the probable character Of tina
house. | instructed several of my mel
| to dress In civilians dress and eNer
every effort to obtain evidence agains
the house.
AT first We got warrants In his man
/ ncr against women where there wa
| only one woman in room. Some of m!
/ men could read and talk German. Th
women adv prtised In tn. German papers
NV men cat out their advertisement
aud visited IN" advertisers. We mad
many arrests.
! II ater on NV men reported to me tina
the police Justices would not issue an,
warrants of that kind, for there wer,
no convictions in Special Sessions. 20
lice Justice Ryan told me himself tina
he did not want To- issue warrants tina
| sessions,
My men reported 10 me that tn
Special Sessions Justices would not con
Wet where there WAS only one woman IL
a room. and II was the custom OF thes
women to muN" from place to place
advertising from each place"
A., Mai M..