The evening world., 1894-08-23
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continual from First Pao,.,
but Commissioners Kerwln and Murray
raised their eyebrows eSpressively. 1t
has been said that Mrs. Schubert was
backed by powerful east side politi-
clan. The matter was allowed to rest
there.
MIR. Dakel. did you ever see Mrs.
Schubert at the station. house,"
81 saw her once about two months
after the raid OF May 20 She asked
In the main office. I entered the sta
ton just as the Captain vas saying.
evidently his reply to something she
that house closed or | will send you to
prison "
This conversation was reported more
fully by two former %itnesse s,,,, dan,
about being unable TO hold his wit.
nesses," said one OF the lawyers to-day.
He has complained that his witnesses
SSny Fl. has tad the
and the newispaper-reading public that
two OF his witnesses. Charles Prien and
Evelyn, Bell, had been. frightened or
one Of his s Witnesses G "FS gPsr W eE
ner. charges Capt Cross and Policeman
James Burns with extorting blood money
from him for protecting his disorderiy
house. Carl Werner hasn't run away.
He is right here in easy call OF Mr..
Wellman, and could De produced In ten
minutes. yet Mr.. Wellman has closed
the case against Capt. Cross and Ward
Man Smith and hasn't called Werner.
] think he should be compelled to pro-
duce him. although the man is In the
TomGs under indictment for attempting
to brtte police officer"
VIII Net Call Werner.
Mr.. Welman said In response to this,
that he deemed II ina1Visa blp Gail
Carl Werner. ahd that he was satisfied
with the case he had made against
Cross and Smith on the other charges.
He declined to discuss the matter
What share OF the money collected
from these dlsorderly house keepers by
Wellman on cross. nina ton.
Dakel smiled as he replied quietly:
II don't know. never got any and I
never saw any money pass"
We'll. I'll be more explicit. 1t is
said that the ward man gets per cent.
Of what he collects. Is that SOP"
don't know. 1t Is not true 50 far as
! do know" calmly replied the ex-de-
You served under Capt. Cassidy, and
say you were instructed by him to close
up these places. Did you close up Katie
she kept disorierly house. first at II
Chryst!e street. and later at lH Chrystie
that Katie Schubert. Mr.. Wellmsn's
own witness. had perJurcd herself when
she denied her connection with the house
II Ch'ysfie street
The answed was that evidence could
not be obtained. After the raids. the
witness said he satisfied himself that
the places were not running. In this
work he used Morris Goldstein, Nathan
and other stoolpigeons. and policemen In
civilian dress detailed from other bust
ness.
geant heard Capt Cross say to Mrs.
Schubert. You go back and close up
that house. or III send you to prison,
But the sergeant says the Captain said
that to the woman in his private room,
with the door closed. having called the
sergeant In and told him to listen and
How do you account for that
ibid you hear through the door,"
81 don't know what anybody else
heard. certainly heard Capt Cross
say what repeated Just as I entered
Could Not Get Evidence.
Dokel said he. had during his service
got evidence for convictions against
eishty,two houses. President Martin
he had heard Judges say that It was IL
legal to pay a stool-pigeon for getting
evidence. and he ''hrmly believed it,"
q warrant until assured by the officer
that he also had another witness.
To Mr.. Hess Dakel said:
we raided Mrs. Schubert's house
might break the law. but that was only
suspicion. and we could not get war
rant without evidence and we could not
raid raj It without warrant When we got
Patrolman Louis shindler who served
under under oSE Cross to set in vS ysn sS dss
tied that he saw Mrs. Schubert at the
E I'D street station about May 90
II was telling the Captain about evi;
he said. When she came in got UP
TO leave the room. Capt. Cross told me
to sit down again. He asked her what
20 ON and do SusnessF He tod ian" her.
You cen not that's all. You must close
up the house. II you don't I'll send you
TO prison.
This is the first OF three visits Of the sort
made by Mrs. Schubert TO the station. as
related by different officers. The first,
May 20, vas ten days before the raid:
the second, in June an, and the third late in
fused to see her alone, and had told her
she must quit the business or he would
send her to jail.
Shindler described the manner OF pro-
cedure against disorderly houses. All
sorts Of subterfuges were employed
Once while Dokel engaged Mrs. Schu-
bert in conversation on the corner.
got in the house and secured
evidence. But the court declined to
issue warrant. Another time she
succeeded in satisfying Judge Cowing
that her house was closed, and was al
lowed to withdraw a plea of not guilty.
pended sentence. He got into the house
again in November. 1892, and went
through the place from top to bottom.
but found no inmates nor evidence of
guilt.
The story Of the Sanford house was
similar. and In response to one OF Mr..
McClelland's questions, Shindler, who Is
a man OF unusual intelligence for his
class. replied:
Closed After the Raid.
Mrs Sanford's house was never
open after the raid in the manner she
describes. ] kept constant surveillance
over II. under orders from Capt Cross,
and l know that II II had been wide
open and doing business the way Mrs.
Sanford has described l should have
got into It, and there would have been
another raid.
The raid on that house was May 10
and the woman's case was not disposed
OF in Special Sessions till way along In
September. The place was closed all the
tine"
Shindler said Kate schuberts husband.
Fred Wendt, did not die at 70 Forsyth