The evening world., 1894-07-18
'OEBS STILL IN JAIL.
A, R. o. Officers Enjoying Their
Respite from Work.
Passed q Comfortable Night and
Saw No Ghosts.
Debs's Case Compared to Master
Workman Quinn's in New York.
by Associated Press)

| CHICAGO. July 18.-Debs seems to en-
Joy jail life. and 30 do George w. How
ard. Vice-President; Sylvester, Keliher,
| Secretary. and I. w. Rogers, a director
OF the A. II. U. All OF them were smil-
ing and in the best OF spirits to-day
after their first nights experience in
| the Cook County Jail.
A large party of the personal friends
| OF the imprisoned strike leaders called
early at the county jail, but the daily
corridor scrubbing was in progress. and
| no one was admitted for some time.
President Debs sent word down to the
| waiting visitors that himself and friends
had enjoyed a good nights rest, and
| had nothing to say that would interest
the public
| Before II A. NJ. Debs came down from
| his cell to meet his stenographer, who
had arrived with bundle OF mail for
| him. The President was in good humor.
Il had the best nights sleep I had in
a month or two," said he Nothing
disturbed me, not even the ghost Of that
man who was hanged the other day,
and whose spirit Is said to be roaming
about in here. I have absolutely moth
Ing to add to what I have already said,
concerning our arrest We are here and
will stay here until next Monday, at
least"
| President Debs then fell to looking
over his big batch of mall matter.
! Nice-President (eliher came down from
his cell in the debtors department, and
while awaiting his turn in the barber
chair said:
We are all enjoying this respite from
work"
At the Jail to-day Vice President How
ard, Of the A. r. u. made the following
test case. We don't consider ourselves
bigger than the law, and incidentally we
think the railroads aren't. We are get
ting some evidence for the coming legal
battle and we consider 1t a pretty fair
grade
Here Is a letter l have received tell
ing Of evidence that most OF the freight
car burning here in Chicago was done
by two men in the employ OF the Cen
eral Managers Association. One of the
secret agents of certain committee saw
Ing through the yards with handcar
loaded with infammable waste which
they lighted and systematically threw
among the cars. This agent overheard
a conversation between the men from
which he CLEANED that they were paid
5000 down and were to receive $500 more
when the job was done.
This. understand, was done before the
troops were called out. An effort is now
being made to arrest these two men.
I'VE further have very positive evil
dcnce that the big man who led the mob
of 5000 ut Blue Island was a Pinkerton
man, employed by the railroads and it is
Significant that. although he could be
easily identified. he has not been ar
rested. 1t is safe to say that this case
will not be entirely onesided.'
Considerable conflict of opinion seems
to prevail among lawyers in this city
| ~ mo- ha 4 - nf lac a pnf
: mitment for contempt, many maintain
ing that such action was unwarranted
at the present stage of the case.
Assistant District Attorney Henry W.
Unger was outspoken in his condemna-
ton Of the proceedings. and said tina,
such action as Judge Seaman IN punish
dicating the law, only tends to bring
the courts in contempt of the public,
When seen by reporter Mr.. lnger
said: while I have been counsel for
many labor organizations and am in
touch with them now, my opinion is in
. no"ise affected by that circumstance
wrong, 10 pun sh man for dsobeying
an order Of Court when the order Itself
cannot stand.
81 had the same question come up in
trict Assembly ~, in this city. Quinn
and his followers had obtained an order
, from the Superior Court to prevent Bres.
lin and his part!sans from interfering
} with Quinn's possession of Pythagoras
Hall and, armed with this injunction
? ana under color OF It, Quinn served II
/ on Rresin'S people and sought to hold
possession of the hall.
E II then advised Rresin's people, whor
: represented that such an order roult
only have been granted improvidently
, and that 1t could not In any way be use,
; tn change the status Of affairs. Rresliu'.
people were on the point of relnauish
, ing; but upon this advice they hurriet
up to the hall. and armed with shotguns
z pistols and clubs they presented quinn
/ with the freedom Of the city by landini
T lowers and processeervers cut by mail
: force.
4 "Quinns counsel. Louis r. Post ther
\ made motion to punish my clients fo
q Court. The Judge denied their uotior
o on the ground that the Bres''n .peopl
We're justified in resis-'nS An invaii,
point AS to whether they did not EN-
| ploy more force than was necessary I,
do So This decision Is reported in tn
| New York Law Journal of that month
Z 1T will he observed in that case tina
tho injunction order was not alone re
sisted, but the enjoined parties resorte
to violence In overcoming results now
e ing from II, while in the Debs case n
. overt act so far as can see. has bee
=. traced To Debs or his associates.
I Another odious incident of the Who'll
affair Is the manner In which Debs va
i disposed of when made a prisoner: fo
:, according To newspaper reports. he az
:. pears to have been treated like a con-
n mon felon, his pockets searched and N
feature of prison life being relaxed
his case. VI IL well settled that pei
son imprisoned for contempt OF Court
to he treated only az civil prisoner
ing trial for crime"