The evening world., 1894-08-23
CROSS MAKES
A HARD FIGHT.
fronhnusd from First Pan. '

Jane Burns with extOrting blood money
| from him for protecting hi. disorieriy
| house. Carl Werner hasn't run away.
! lie is right here in easy call OF MIR.
/ Wcllman, and could be produced In ten
minutes. yet Mr.. Wellinan has closed
| Man Smith and hasn't called Werner.
/ think he should be compelled to pro-
duce him, although the man - In the
! Toinbs under Indictment for attempting
Mir, weilman nan SAID = responce to this,
that he deemed IT unadvisable to call
Carl Werner. and that he was satisfied
! Cross and Smith on the other charges.
ile declined to discuss the matter
! What share OF the money collected
from these disorderly house keepers by
The ward man does he get?' asked Mr.
Weliman on c,ross,eKamnation.,
Dok"l smiled as hi replied quietly
~ don't know. ] never got any and
never saw any money paid"
We'll, RI be more explicit. 1t Is
said that the ward man gets per cent
OF what he collects. Is that so?"
II don't know. IT is not true so far as
] do know calmly replied the ex-de-
tectv
You served under Capt Cassidy. and
say you were instructed by him to close
up these places. Did you close up Katie
Schubert's place in all the eight years
she kept a disorderly house. first at II
Chrystie street, and later at IA Chrystie
/ street,"
The question was a tact, admission
| own witness, had perjurcd herself when
she denied her connection with the house
| II Chrystie street.
not be obtained. After the raids, the
witness said he satisfied himself that
me places were not running. IN this
w"ik o, ne used Motifs
civilian dress detailed from other bust
| ness.
"Dolscl you heard almost the same
words. now, famous. that another ser
geant heard Capt. Cross say to Mrs.
Schubert. You 30 back and close up
that house. or ] II send you to prison.
that to the woman In his private room.
with the door closed, having called the
sergeant In and told him to listen and
remember
:" How do you account for that
Did you hear through the door, "
81 don't know what anybody else
heard. certainly heard Capt. Cross
the station-house." replied Dakel
Dokel said he had during his service
got eveidence for convictions against
he had heard Judges say that 1t was H.
le99l to pay II stoo!i,pigeon for getting
a warrant until assured by the officer
that he also had another witness.
10 MT. Hess lDkpl Slt1:
we raiied Mrs. Schubert's house
twice. We knew she was there and
might break the law. but that was only
suspicion. and we could not get war
raid 1t without a warrant. When we got
evidence we made raids
ra,roman louis shindleT Who ssryed
under orders to give evidence against
gambling and disorderly houses. testi-
ned that he saw Mrs, Schubert at the
Eldridge street station about May 20,
IL was telling the Captain about evil
dence | had got against some places"
he said when she came In l got up
to sit down again. He asked her what
she wanted. She asked. Why cant |
go on and do business? He told her
you can not. that's all. You must close
| to prison "
This Is the first of three OF the sort
related by different officers. The first.
| May 20, was ten days before the raid
the second. in June. and the third late In
Ju.y., Each time the Captain had re-
she must quit the business or he would
send her to jail.
Shinde described the manner OF pro-
cedure against disorderly houses. All
sorts of subterfuges were employed.
once while Dokel engaged Mrs. Schu-
| bert In conversation on the corner,
s iiI got in the house and secured
issue warrant. Another time she
succeeded in satisfying Judge Cowing
| that her house was closed, and was al
plead guilty ana 30 free under sus-
pended sentence. He got into the house
again in November, 1882, and went
through the place from top to bottom.
| but found no inmates nor evidence Of
| guilt.
The story. OF the Sanford house. was
similar, and In response to one OF Mr..
McClelland's quest ions, Shindler. who is
a man OF unusual intelligence for his
class. replied:
Mrs. Sanford's house was never
open after the raid in the manner she
describes. | kept constant surveillance
over IL, under orders from Capt Cross,
and l know that II 1t had been wide
Sanford has described | should have
got into it, and there would have been
another raid.
The raid on that house was May 10,
AMI the woman's case was not disposed
| of In Special Sessions TIL way a long In
September. The place was closed all the
Shindie said Kate Schuberts husband
Fred Wendt, did not die at 70 Forsyth
street, as she testified. but at IA Chrys-
tie street
"Do You remember that visit OF Mrs
Schubert TO the Captain so easily after
two years because II was the first STEP
in an effort to make ARRANGEMENTS tC
ness" asked Mr.. Weilman on cross-ex.
/ animation.
shinler said he didn't know. Mr.
W"liman demanded to know II Judge
towing had not suspended sentence
/ upon schubert because he had recon-
: mended II.
mo, sir; Judge Cowing asked me 4
her statement that the nuisance wa!
abat 4 WAS correct | replied telling hin
70 the truth, | told him that as far as
! had been able to discover the house wa!
e closed up. That was true, and the sen
. ten"" was suspended"
= How many disordcrlv houses wer,
= In III" precinct In July, 1892" Mr.. Wen
e man asEcl
a so far as | know between hfty an,
sixty, but they We're all closed up an,
none OF them doing business. Some q
th' IN we had raiGcd three or four time
ever time We could set ev dencc OF
5 which 10 40 it-always at the instruc
ton Of the Captain. and capt. eros
l. Instructed us 10 proceed against tn
schubert a"d the Sanford houses JUS
as he did aElinst the others
- When YOU tod Judge COwinG tina
that woman was not doing business, N,
: YOU tell him that Capt, Cross was tryiu,
> to drive that class Of women out OF IN
~ precinct, and II the Judge suspeude,
. sentence II would encourage Others [,
q Resume business" Mr. Welluan thun
"a dcrcd
Sh.nilcr said the Judge didn't ask hin
4ft ttlF L u. ~ IL