New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-07-26
s,oner. vote ,ha, Mr.. Gran, objects silly aues-

permission 10 10 SO, she will sel where s'""A''~
Mr weI.manwer. such is the fact; Has .3 NTs
Thurow any grgdse or sPie ,. a az. neop You
Q~Who are 'rIs people? Did you ever houhu
hT5 id Won ever arrest her? A-Nc.
Q-Ever get evidence against her d'SOrae'N
Then she has no ground for spite againsi y231
personally. who never harmed hair OF her "e"''
@ Then Mrs Thurow testified that she had pail
money - you regularly. to you VINO had never
Gan You think OF any motive mat would haze
induced Mrs Thurow 70 have tsstiied as1 no,it
couldn't get evidence against her. ..., ..
QWa part Of y 1yGrd dnty as So WaT Y
Q.-Dd YOU ever get any; Al tred TO- OUT
0 ou Won Went. you knew that you couldn't
get ill., didn't You? Ayes mad 10 Use o'''-
%whqm &a you Gse' A-G 6 Ssf Of G0e toan
The last ! knew of him he went to Cncago
'e S-0 out of town. Yes Whom ese d.d you USE
Q-Has he disappeared from the face OF the
s'MSI ar Fromme-I think the examination should
be conducted ~ proper form
HE CAN PREACH. BIT NOT PRACTISE
This sentiment on tho part Of Mr. FrommH de-
serves to be written in letters II fire ana allowed
70 dance continually before Mr. Frommes eyes
The fat little lawyer can preach pnt cannot pi'o-
tlse.
He hadn't seen hin, in eight or nine months
Mr. WelIman.-Of course not. Anybody else!
Al am not certain whether had the station
0V ODD any Of them get evidence against Mrs
Thurow? A.-Uhman did
Mr. Welman produced the records OF the raid
on Mrs Thurow's house. and showed that Vhlman
had had rorhInc 10 Do with the Hook said that
no had reported ~ Captain Doherty that he had
done az he could after making these unsuccessful
attempts.
Q-Was ward man sent e Mrs, Thur9w
house 20 warn her DeI''e -i'''"' '
don't know
Hook said that he had made about $40 arrests
in ten months five months Of which ne spent III
court, He had never obtained any evidence agahs;
any dis )rlerly houses.
Q-How many disorder!y houses were there IN
''tS PIT was perfectly pure ana clean precinct
A~OYjv those houses that We "raidei eNistNd
Q-That YOU "raGed" and closed up A.-hes
Mr Welman-Thats all
NJ Murray brought the fact that all the
women tia, Hook arrested were dischareed-none
we're convicted That caused Mr. Wei.man to ask
Hook If the reason that he had secured no con-
victions was that he had made bargains win MS
victims or with the "madames" to withhold the
evidence. Hook denied this
Can,ain Dohertv became excited while Hook was
he,ng 50 mercilessly handled and shouted that the
reasons that convictions were not secured were that
tho cases were pigeonhoel at the District Aito--
ney's Office II was an outrage. he declared
Mr. Wenman blandy Informed the captain thai
,ho prisoners were recorded as discharged on the
blotter
Recess was taken between and 2SO p m
"BY THE GRACE ~ MR.. GRANT
BY the grace of Mr.. Grant the door was IN
vi,flnglv opcnel In the afternoon session Tor inc
mos, damaging testimony Of tho day. Sergeant
Core g Iiebers who gave il. an amusing
witness bur ne dl not discover that fact himself
lie was extremely solemn and melancholy through
out the proceeding.
The whole afternoon session would have been
dry and duh had rot Mr.. Grant been 50 ANXIOUS
m have the last word and straghten out some
roe,,,ney obscure testimony which the witness had
given on hi, REORGANIZATION by Mr.. Welnan
lie got more Information than he wanted many.
AS for the record becoming straghtened-well' MT.
Grant accomplished that also. II was as clear as
crystal even TO the more or less Opaque brains oil
the Defendants counsel
riehers corrobora,ed a most important part OF the
testimony OF Mrs Thurow and gave TO Justice
George r Roesch another opportunity 70 indulge IN
tho pastirie so dear t. mis- heart Of "vndicatlng
himself" The witness declared sadly when ne so'
in 4 place which was 50 light that ne conid NOT
soueeze out in any other way. tina; the reason he
accented Mrs Thurow az bonlsman for The inmates
Of her own house even after he knew that she kept
the house was because she had a card from Sena-
tor Roesch
IIebers was called to the stand Immediately after
he al fer
"a, Their short cut pompal Jour- and he vas pale when
Mr. Grant began 10 question him. He knew the
frs, mart Of his story extremely vel. II sounded
as If he hal learned ii from the same source tha'
all the other police ofcers hal gathered the IN
formation which they impaired 10 the Commission
ers while Witnesses behalf OF Captain Doherty.
Mr. Gran, began;
MORE INFORMATION THAN HE WANTED
"Whle YOU were a sergeant under Captain Doherty
fffnl %
Seconl-ave2' Ayes. Captain Doherty gave In
structons TO the men going out 10 arrest any women
found soliciting from that house. Men were also
specially stationed 10 patrol in front Of the house
Mr. Grant asked for the blotter covering February
G 1898 Llebers testified that he vas on duty AT the
police station between and o'clock p IN. on that
dov and that Mrs Throw did not come 70 the
station and 70 into the captains room while he was
on duty.
This was a denial Of Mrs Thurows testimony
that she had called Captain Doherty on the date
mentioned.
I.iebers testified that he had never seen Mrs
Thurow enter the captains private room. while he
was there Mrs Thurow had come TO the polio"
station one afternoon and asked for the captain lie
was not in. but while the witness was talking with
Mrs Thurow the captain had come In. The witness
had referred her TO the captain. Captain Doherty
had said angrilY:
Get out Of this place. and want you 10 ger out
Of Second-ave. and remain out
Mr.. Grant-Do you think Captain Doherty M, hld
everything he possibly cOuld 10 suppress MIS-
Thurow's house? Al believe he did
Mr. Wellman then took hold Of the witness ana
asked when he had first heard Captain DDherty
say anything about Mrs. Throws place.
The witness replied that he had heard nothing
until the latter part OF August. 1899. Then, ne
testified he knew Mrs. Thurow well. He TOOK hcr
as bondsman. when the inmates OF her house we're
arrested because he thought she was good security
Mr. Weman-Uo you think 1t was aiding your
captain In helping him to break up TINS house
by taking her as bon1swoman for people taken out
OF her house? Al don't know that II was
ODD the captain know that Mrs. rhurow was
being taken as bondswoman for the women taken
out OF her house? A. Not that know or.
@ He looked over the records every day. didn't
he's A-Yes: every time he came in and signed his
name the record.
O-After reading the record did ne never say any
thing abou, taking Mrs. Thurow as bondswoman?
A H. ed o a.