Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1894-06-09
Before He Answered tho Questions
Of the Sugar Committee.
Mr.. TERRELL'O CHATS WITH SENATORS
He Talked With Republicans and
Democrats Alike.
MR.. JONES' AMENDMENTS

teruay MT. Ieffei was asked If he knew
OF any United States Senator or any per-
son pretending to represent him, speculat-
ing in sugar stocks during the tendency
of the present tariff bill, to which he re-
piled: II do not My friend Senator Brice
has been represented as having made for
tune In this connection. There is abso-
lutely nothing in it. l never was a member
OF pool Of sugar stock in my life. or of
any syndicate that was interested in it,"
Senator Davis-During your stay in Wash
ington have you bought or sold sugar GER
tifcates? When was your last Investment?
Mr.. Terrell presume the latter part of
April or the first Of May
Senator Davis-How many purchases or
sales of sugar certificates have you made
since your stay In Washington in January
last?
Mr.. Terrell cannot recoiiect l had
bought and sold great many things-pos-
sibiy 2o,OOO shares at 500 each. But that
covers quite a number of ansactiors
Senator Lindsay-"You spoke Of talking
with republican as well as democratic Sem
ators How many republican Senators DO
you known"
MIR. Terrell-"Senator Aldrich. Senator
Mcmillan OF Michigan, whom / have known
quite well for number of years. i had a
little talk with him. / mentioned the tariff
bill, and asked: is 1t going to pass, or is
1t not going to pass?" nasty with those
men. AS far as Mr. Aldrich is concerned, /
boarded with him at the same hotel and
saw him at meals, met him in the lobby
and laughed and talked with him about
tariF many times, and asked him whether
they we're going to defeat the bin ] am a
republican. and would be glad to see il
beaten, so far as that is concerned. There
has been no conversation with republican
Senators that had any significance what
ever"
Senators on Both Sides.
Senator Lindsay-"You did not hesitate to
talk sugar with thcm?"
Mr.. Terrell-"I talked sugar with any
nan"
The chairman did you make any dis
elimination between republican and demo-
cratic Senators in that regard?"
Mr.. Terrell-'No. sir. 1 have no apologies
to make to anybody for doing It, I have an
interest, and have right to talk with a
Senator of the United States In a fair man
ner on any legislation, and when it comes
to the point that we cannot We might as
well shut up shop.
ator hesitate to talk with you upon the
subject Of sugar."
Mr.. Terreli-"None whatever No sena-
tor has hesitated to talk with me-"
he Consults Counsel,
z. r. Chapman Of the New York broker
age firm Of Moore & Schley was before the
Senate investigating committee again today
| He declined yesterday to answer questions
concerning his firms handling of sugar
| stock and asked for time to consult coun-
sci. He saw Judge Shellabarger of this
city last night and obtained a written opin-
ion from him as to his legal rights, which
| Is supposed to have been to the effect that
he could not be compelled to answer He
went before the committee a few minutes
after IL today.
In his examination a portion of the mr.
ticIe which appeared in the Philadelphia
Press containing the charge that Moore &
Schley had possession of a copy of the four
hundred Jones amendments, among them
being the sugar schedule, before they were
offered in the Senate. was read to the wit
Eess, who denied any knowledge of such a
fact and declared that he did not believe
l. was true. SO far as he knew no mem
Der OF the firm and no employee had seen
the amendments before they were present.
ed. Being asked whether his firm had been
a heavy dealer in sugar stock during the
last six months Mr. Chapman asked leave
| to consult his counsel before answering.
| He also made this request when asked
| whether or not his firm had acted for
| Senator Brice or other Senators in the pur-
/ chase OF sugar or other speculations in
| stocks, but he admitted that his firm had
at times done business for Senator Brice.
| The witness was shown letter to the
Chairman Of the committee from Senator
| Brice. in which the Senator asserted that
! he desired and would require any of HIS
| clerks, brokers, ETC., to advise the commit
J tee of any speculative transaction In the
| industrial stocks to which he had been a
| party since March 4, 1891, when he entered
| the Senate
In this letter Senator Brice stated thai
| during the period since he had entered the
Senate he had not been interested directly
I or indirectly, alone or with Others either
| for investment or speculation, or in the re-
suits OF either in any sugar or other indus
| trial stocks or security or property
! Notwithstanding this communicate ton Mr.
| Chapman still asked to be allowed to con-
! suit counsel.
Refused to Answer.
| Mr.. Chapman was excused by the COM
mittee at Las His testimony was vol
| luminous and consisted largely Of refusals
to answer the questions put to him. The
purpose of the committee when they found
that Mr.. Chapman would not answer ques-
lions was shown to be to prove specula-
| ton in sugar stock by implication.
| 1t is understood Mr.. Chapman's refusal
| to answer will be reported to the Sena re
| on Monday. The Vice President will then
| be asked to certify the fact to the district
| attorney.
| Mr. Morgan Ross, room clerk at the Ar
| lington Hotel was next called and asked
! about sending cards, and especially Sem
| ators cards, to the rooms occupied by men,
bers of the sugar trust. Mr.. Ross said that
| the sending up of cards was such a matter
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