The evening world., 1894-09-11

bookkeeper for moro tnen yo"' III
ness" repeatedly with Ward Man Charl-
what do you mean by business"
II mean / paid him money. He did
the collecting for the Captain, l suppose
I. don't know whether w ssvn Da tSe
Msai% or to not Charlton as police pro-
lection, and credited him by name IN
the books" - LAT,
II paid Charlton $50 a month for about
raid any money to Capt. Meakin person
The witness said he did not know
where McNally's books were now, He
last saw them in the possession OF BIOL s
gett, one OF the writers IN MT oo mUrt
TO get hold of those books, and ne was
satisfied that they were not In the coun-
try; u. -, ,.,,,o , confederate
in the telegraph Office was explained
by Applegate.
Confederate in the Western Union.
I'VE had a man in the Western Union
Office downtown who used 10 SEM ~
plicate messages every month to McNal-
Tvs house uptown. 80 as to see thal
none of the writer's stole each o'her
messages" ,.,
"yes 'NcNaliy pald the Western Union
Company $500 a month for TINS message
service and kept it up for fu''y three
years"
raid Mcakim $500.
Did YOU ever pay any money to Capt
Capt. Meakim at McNally's request and
paid him 5000 McNally could not go
himself so he sent me" at,
Ibid YOU pay him in cash.
ooh. YES. McNally never paid any
thing by check while he was in New
Al Mr.. Cons request Capt. Meakim
stood M and Applegate identified him
very positively as the Captain to whom
he had paid money.
'He wore citizens clothes then;
Detective Charlton was also asked 10
stand up and was identified again by
the witness who went on to say mat
the time at which he paid the 500 to
from Headquarters that all the green
goods men should be driven out of town.
"Where did you say this order came
"From Supt Byrnes, I heard"
Applegate explained that the city was
divided up into districts, each hacker
having his own captain, and all being
Obliged by an agreement between them
to contine themselves to their own terri
tory. .,.. a. A..
trict would be swamped with guys"
Mike Ryan had the First Ward, the
witness said, Ed ParmeleE huns around
DIVERS saloon. and McNally had the
Capt. Meakim was introduced around
the precinct when he went uptown by a
man named Paddy Gogglns. A..
Mr.. Con- interrupted the proceedings
at this point to read a note from Supt
Eyrnes, in reply to "A .reuest which he
had made, saying that he had instructed
the capita ms of every precinct to lose
no time in serving subpoenas of the
LeNow Committee left at the police
stations,
said that when come backs" or guys
who had been swindled, got into the
hards of the police and were brought
back, the grecn-goods men had to pay
which the victim had been swindled.
Then the policemen would give the guy
scare and get him out of the way.
"Detective Haniey was McNally's
said Apologize; Whenever Jimmy got
into trouble lianley would always do
what he could for him.
get Hanley to go up To his house, and
my sister has ben to Sc him. too"
says HnnIcy Stccrcd "Guys."
Applegate described how Hanlcy had
steered guys" for McNally on several
occasions and one in particular, where
guy" He said that Hanley was often
instrumental, too, In getting "guys' out
OF the way when they came back, after
police.
on the day that Apo had testified
before the Lexow Committee Appegate
said Haney went to see McNally,, and
had told the witness himself that II he
or his brother should be subpoenaed be-
fore the Committee that all they need
say Was II don't know Il cant re-
He told us what we were to say
Yes to- added Applegate,
goods men was to chase them out Of the
city for n time. They scarcely ever ar
rested them.
iIanlcy, the witness said had once
arrested Dan Scribner and Walter
Haines at McNally's request
They rigsed up guy to come In
Jimmys bank roll. This was only Il
supposed guy, you understand and they
Were to ring up the wrong box. Tho
guy got away with the money, and
Jimmy told Hanley. Hanley. said he
would pinch the men himself and he
did. They We're locked up for several
days at Police Headquarters"
How He Paid Meakim.
Applegate told with great glibness
how he had paid the $500 to Capt.
Meakim. 1t was about three days before
they went to New Jersey, and after the
order to clear out the green-goods men
came from Headquarters.
"Meakim, understood, had done some.
favor for Jimmy. introducing him TO
some Jersey official, and making him
solid over there.
81 found Meakim in the station,
dressed in citizens clothes. and standing
In little room just off the desk. | gave
him the 500 in bills. and told him 1t
was from Jimmy"
What did he do with it?"
"He put 1t In his pocket and that wa
the last | saw of it,"
Did you ever pay Capt. Meakin
money on any other OCCASION"
Yes, / did" replied Apologize after
some hesitation. II gave him $50 som,
time previous to the payment of 5000"
WHAT was IL for?"
IL put IT. down in the books as public
protection"
.You paid 1t to him in person."
Yves, | went right 10 the station anC
handed him the money, saying to him
Here's something Jimmy wants me L
give YOU
Did he know what it was?"
oh yes"
Senator Lexow wanted to know If DaI
Scribner wasn't the man who swindle
farmers with the gold-brick game an
against whom indictments were pendln
all over the country.
Yes, i guess that's the man." said tn
witness, who went on to explain tina
Walter Haines was "a Canadian crook
who never got on in New York till h
fell In with Jimmy. Both Scribner an
y Haines, the witness said, were in NcN
York city at the present time.
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