The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-12-20
CARLlSLE'S MEASURE
ITS CHANCES OF PASSING THE HOUSE
NOT VERY BRIGHT.
Eighteen Democrats and Four Popu-
lists, Besides Republicans, Booked
for Speeches Against 1t.
II. U. JOHNSON'S ADDRESS
THE BILL STRONGLY CONDEMNED BY
THE INDIANA REPRESENTATIVE.
President Cleveland Slapped by
Kentucky Democrat-Turpie on the
Nicaraguan Canal Scheme.
II. U. JOHNSON'S ADDRESS

WASHINGTON. Dec. 19-The debate on
the currency bill continued uninterruptedly
In the House to-day. Messrs. Johnson, of
Indiana, and Ellis, OF Kentucky, opposed it
and Mr.. Warner, of New York, supported
1t. The speech Of Mr.. Ellis was of rather
a sensational character and the applause
1t received from the free silver Democrats
indicated clearly the unalterable opposition
OF the silver men OF the House to the Car
Isle plan. Mr. Bland, the silver leader, gave
notice that he would offer his free silver
bill as a substitute for the bill.
An unexpectedly strong opposition to the
bill Is disclosei by the list of those who
have asked for time to speak on the meas
ure. Two lists have been made, one for
members Of the banking committee who
wish to be heard and the other for members
not on the committee. The committee lists
shows the members divided on party lines
except Representative Ellis, who spoke
against the bill to-day. The other list
shows fourteen members who will speak
for the bill and thirty against it; of the
thirty against 1t eighteen are Democrats.
The list of speakers is as follows:
For the bill-McCreary, Pendleton. of
West Virginia; Bynum. Talbert, Lane,
Berry, 1sY Is. Bnekner. sickles. Caruth, Tracey.
Against the bill-Dingley, Rep; Sibley,
Dem-; Hendrix, Dem; Cochran, Dem:
Bowers Rep; Bland. Dem, Hatch. Dem;
Laurin. Dem; Byran. DEM; Daniels, Rep;
Weadock, Dem.; Powers. Rep; c. w
Stone, Rep; c. X. Bell. Dem Lacey, Rep:
Mcguire, Dem; Richardson, of Michigan
DEM; Newland, silverite; Dolliver, Rep.:
Simpson. Pop; Pence. Pop; Boen. Pop:
man, Dem. Neil, Dem; j. G. Bell. pom.
Little, Dem
All OF those for the bill are Democrats
Those against 1t are: Democrats IS; Re-
publicans.- z; Populists. A, and Newlands.
Silver, /.
Secretary Carlisle was at the Capitol to-
day for some time prior to the assembling
of the House The main purpose of Mr..
Carlisle's visit was TO put the Democratic
leaders in possession of information to
overcome certain criticisms advanced
against the Carlisle bill. 1t had been urged
on the floor yesterday and elsewhere that
the Carlisle plan might result in loss by
the government. He showed that If the
bankers were correct in their unanimous
agreement that the Baltimore plan could
occasion no loss to the government. it was
even more certain that the Carlisle bill.
now before the House. could occasion no
loss.
MIR. JoHNSON'S SPEECH.
AS soon as the regular routine had been
disposed of to-day, motion OF Mr..
Springer. the House went into executive
session and the debate on the currency bill
was resumed. Mr.. Johnson, of Indiana,
one Of the minority members of the bank
ing and currency committee, opened the
debate to-day with a vigorous speech in
opposition to the Carlisle bill Admitting
the defects in our currency system, he said,
their correction could not be obtained by
the passage Of bill along the line sug-
gested by the banking and currency COM
mittee. 1t was much easier to attack the
present system than offer a safe substitute
for 1t. The present system had given the
country a greenback currency which en-
abled the government TO carry on the war.
and IL produced a market for our bonds in
the hour OF danger and peril. The cur
rency il produced had never been ques-
toned. While remedial legislation might be
advisable this was no time for expert
mental legislation. There was no need OF
indecent speed. Congress in this matter
could well AFFORD TO make haste slowly
The exigencse5 confronting the treasury
had Mr. Johnson said, constrained the ma
jorlty members OF the committee 10 afiix
Their signatures 70 report which in many
up he bill section by section ani attacked
its various provisions. He recalled Mr..
Springer's opposition TO the repeal of the 10
per cent tax on State banks last spring
and his present advocacy OF a provision
for its repeal in this BILL 'I know OF no
Mr.. johnson, in either sacred or profane
history unless IL was the conversion OF
Saul OF Tarsus. But there the parallel ends.
for Saul was converted 70 the right, whals