The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1894-12-14

Both Senators Lexow and o'Connor asked th,
witness 3 number Of questions In this line, and
urged him 20 be frank, assuring him that tn,
committee sympathized with him.. and that h,
could only lose their respect and sympathy b.
continuing 10 evade the questions put 70 him
But the witness would not do what Mr.. Goff and
Mr.. Jerome confidently expected he w~ould-tel
the story Of the raising of the sic, 900.
Then Mr.. Cons manner changed. and he be-
came stern with the witness.
Q.-You gave q number Of notes for . lsre.
sum Of money about January, 1927 Al may
have.
Q.-Nsme one mar to whom you gave = nots
at that timer A.-John Howard.
Q.-Of the Kenwood house on the Bowery I
Ayes.
Mr.. Gof-Before proceeding with what I as
sure the committee IL q most painful duty to
me I must express my most intense surprise
and disappointment. I thought IL there was
any one man in the Police Department to whom
we could successfully appeal for the truth II
was this man.
Then he resumed his examination.
o.-Name another man you gave . note to at
that time? Alone to Mr.. McGurk.
Q.-Keeper of a notorious dive on the Bow
ery7 Al know nothing about his dive.
Q.-How much did you borrow from Howard :
A.-sl.0O0.
Q.-And from McGurk7 A.-S1,O0O.
Q.-How much from Aaron Herzbergp A.
borrowed from him several times.
o.-But about January, 1902 Al don't
know.
Q.-How much from Bill Hanson Al got
no money from him.
Q.-How much from Charles HaussmanI A.
borrowed from him several times.
DIN connection with your captaincy | A
know nothing about Il.
Mr.. Goff continued to ask concerning q num-
Der Of Bowery saloon and lodging-house keepers,
but the witness denied having borrowed money
from any Of them. He was then asked to step
aside, and took n seat directly back of the wit
ness chair, where he remained until the COM
mittee adjourned at o o'clock. when the exam
nation, however, was not concluded.
HowARD LENT 81 900 OF 1T.
John Howard was sworn. He testified that
Bernard Rourke borrowed from him 81, 900,
giving Capt. Creeden's note for II. He under
stood from Rourke that a number of men In the
neighborhood were each paying 81, 900, or loan
ing It, for some purpose in connection with
Capt. Creeden. He mentioned among those who
were contributing to the fund Congressman
elect H.. c.. Miner, and most of the men whose
names had been mentioned by Mr.. Gor.
Q. For what purpose was that money raisedf
Al was Informed It was a testimonial or . fund
for Sergeant Creeden.
S.-IHhJ IL WINS htCtbbhTy 10 Thl5o IL IOE
Sergeant Creeden to be made Captain3 A.
Now. Mr.. Gofr. I don't know as I can say as to
that.
o. hope your conscience 10 moro sacred
than your friendship. For what purpose1 A.
Shall I answer as to what I know2
Chairman Lexow-Answer as to tho under
standing you had upon which you advanoed the
money A fund or testimonial.
Q.-Do you require n note when you subscribe
Nn n taattpnapIaly A Wall . fpnA
Q.-For what purposef A.-Should I answer
as to particular knowledge2
Q.-The knowledge you acted upon1 A.
Rourke said something about Creeden's chill
dren's school tuition: / heard something about
. captaincy and got that impression.
Q.-who repaid your Al got checks from
Harry Miner from time to time. l had previ-
ously loaned Creeden money. which he returned,
for the tuition of his children.
SMELL DEPOSITED THE SIS, 600.
The next witness was William Smell. who is in
the real estate business at 25 Stanton street.
Mr.. Golf had this witnesses check book and bank
pass book in account with the Germania Bank,
and based his first questions upon these books.
Q.-On Jan. "a, 1892, you deposited in the
Germania Bank $4,000 A.-That Is right.
Q.-Where did you get It? All l recollect
rightly, I was appointed stakeholder or custo-
dian of a bet.
= S.-F1OW Z A.-tNb tIo bOllClthIlOu OF my |
br0ther-in-law. Dan Patterson.
O. Ex-Assemblyman Patterson Ayes.
.Q..,Who gave you the money! A.-Bernard
Ain checks3 Ayes.
The witness mentioned the names of a number
Of the check signers, when Senator o'Connor in.
'sMsf Mr. aofrm %%Rs''s viii yet sW st THIS Tsn p shs bet pa.
memoTspda with the checks! A:,,Yes.
Q.-On Jan. II. the day before Capt. Creeden
yas made Captain. you deposited sa,3oos A
Q.-where lid you get itp Al can't r~ecollect.
Chairman Lexow took the witness. and, after
considerable work, ascertained from him that
sentation to Capt. ,Creeden, and on that account
he made no further inquiry. II was to pay 1t
over 70 any one Mr.. Rourke designated"
REPPESHAGEs GOT THE MONEY.
.Q.-And whom did you pay 1t to? A.-To ].
W. Reppenhagen.
no cash included in the deposit, and that there
were twenty or twenty..hye checks, running In
Then Mr.. Con proved to him from the deposit
Flip which the witness admitted was in his
cash and only eight checks, one OF which was
for 81, 900.
Germania Bank, Bowery and Rivington street,
was called. lilo identified many papers. and his
,arnd alton d q ,ho sSa the faGt that NJ Gofr had
deposited by the, previous witness and the
checks drawn by the witness on the Germans
other banks. Three men were in attendance
with this witness in charge of books and docu-
ments.
~ SPENT IT." SAYS REPPENHAGEN.
Then John w. ReRpenhagen;, who received
sworn, and Mr.. doff asked:
Q...what did you do with the $4,000 you
,Q.-Do you want me to call you a thief A
No.
Q.-But II you spend money that does not de-
long to you you are a theft A.-But Smell gave
me the $4,000 TO spend for my pleasure and my
use.
Ole said nothing about q bet OF testimonial
or fund A.-NO,
Bank A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-What relation is there between you and
Smell which would prompt him TO give you
$l5,OOOI Ale said some men gave It 10 him
20 give 20 me; he said the money was for me.
Q.-Was 1t not a great surprise 20 you to h@Es
. man give you $4,000? AYES.
Odd you ask him who your kind friends
werel A.-No.
It was the first you heard of tho sl6,ooof
Ayes.