The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1894-12-16
THEMES OF THE DAY.
UxIox OF ROME AVID ENGLAND.
Anenesn snd Roman orders Contrasted
Historically Again.

Anniican nnd Roman Orders Contrnsted
o.. Historically Again.
TorHE EDITOR or TBE sUN-Sir. Kindly per-
NIT a few words in reply To your correspondent
w." who wrote from Goshen, N. Y, on the
subject Of the validity Of Anglican ordinations.
The decision. II It may be 50 called, made by
Clement III. in the case Of Bishop Gordon in
1904, was purely er pdrte the petitioner asked
that his orders be declared invalid, and no ex-
animation whatever was made into the facts,
except in so far rs they appeared IN his petition.
How accurately they were given there is shown
by the Papal finding quoted by ~" where he
says: For they meaning the Anglican episco-
patel use no matter except the delivery of the
Bible. no legitimate form. They have rejected
the Catholic FORM &c.
This lie wholly untrue as matter Of fact. Tho
words, or matter OF tho sacrament OF order,
In the reformed English Pontifcal are identical
with those In the Roman pontihcal, for cOnse-
Grating q Bishop, 10 wit, Receive the Holy
Ghost" They were preceded by a collect indi-
eating that tho elect was to be made n Bishop,
and followed by the delivery OF the Bible. These
words were amplined in the ordinal Of 1862.
by which Bishop Gordon was consecratcd; RE
ceive the Holy Ghost for the office and work OF
. Bishop in the Church of God, now committed
unto thee by the imposition OF our hands"
Your correspondent thinks that the learned
Archbishop OF Zante. and the Patriarch of Je-
rusalem have fraternized with Anglican Bishops
through Ignorance What can he say as to
the "dSn0ranfea OK Element NAM H. u wm9 vhh rOt
may, for courtesy's sake; be called q misconcep-
tign Of the very n words Il Of Gon nisim tEnt i no Arch.
bishop of syria and 1cnos simply desired TO be
courteous" when he assisted at the consccra-
Abbey &" ISL, and received holy communion
e the same year at s.; pete5,si F 20 O,
he was about when he attended the holy eucha-
rist, preached and gave the blessing at q promi-
months since: or that the Metropolitan of Cr-
earea wa acting under undue influence when
Of lis own Cathedral in 1870. FROM The latter
half Of the sixteenth century she tho English
ituai letters Of the Papai tyranny. escaping from
Cslvinism by her reception OF the three Apes
.Slio orders q the priesthqod, and preserves to
dogmatic teaching derived from God" go,
fhls 1. certainly not the Language. Of an III
informed man. II may interest Y 10 know
that when the Anglican Bishop of { braltar
consecrated the church at Pera,. the Patriarch
Of Constantlnople sent his official representative
70 assist in the service.
rather fancy that similar action on the part
Of Archbishop Corrigan would be taken to i'm
ply something more than "neighborly courtesy
or Ignorance"
number of Anglicans are bitterly opposed to
anything more than q minister and a table
nevertheless every, clergyman. in the second
order is and always has been ordained a priest
In the Church OF GOd.' anu when standing De-
fore the altar every priest says:
"We, thy humble servants, do celebrate and
make here before thy Divine Majesty with these
thy holy gifts Il. G., the consecrated elementsl
which we now offer unto Thee. tho memorial
Thy Son hath commanded us tn make.'.
We therefore have both name and thing, both
priest and sacrifice. whether so-called Low
Churohmen or our Roman Catholic friends like
IL or not.
The fact that the present noble and enlight-
ened Roman Bishop, In his laudablo zeal for the
relnion of ChristendOm, has ordered a careful
inquiry into the validity or Anglican orders,
goes far to show that whatever the practice
may have hitherto been, the question Is now TO
be reopened, and, IL the inquiry be fairly and
impartially. made, ! venture TO anticipate that
the conclusion reached will be favorable. e..
MIDDLETowN, N. y.
To THE EDITOR OF THE SUy-Sr: II the
other statements Of "Y." in this mornings Sun
are not more trustworthy than what he relates
Of DIR. Ives, they deserve no credence. His
words are: when the Right Rev. DR.. Ives,
Anglican Bishop of North Carolina, went to
Rome in the year 1874, he received holy or
ders from the commencement" The fact 10,
Or. Ives received no holy orders, to the end.
1t may be stated. in reference to this very ABB
sorbing question, that 1t Is one not subject to tho
infallible magisterium OF the Church. At most
II Is a matter OF discipline. in which the Church
does not claim infallibility. Its decision, also,
Church history. which can never form a ground
for an infallible decree, binding AS OF Catholic
divine faith. This can bc based only on the word
of God. An erudits discussion Of this may be
read In the Methodist Rsriclc Tor September-Oc-
tober, by the Rev. U. Q. Starbuck. u.