New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-09-13

leave that corridor outside there until called upon.
Cohen Is The policeman Wno snarsT now 1 tSr
Tomps s' awaiting trial: Werner who is now known
as sT Mr. x4 As sa wsh IN h
Q.-Had you a financial interest in the saloon
o.Gouside of being agent for the brewery
had any money invested In IN the place agan Of
breweries to obtain licenses for saloons In their
own name? Ayes
Q-Is 1t the custom for the agents Of the brewery
70 70 to the Excise Department and obtain licenses
in their names for saloons in various parts OF
oAnd then you keep the place which has hir
license in your name as ssSqFy qn ns oY an
then sign the place over n TO the canno,
The Charman-And you do transfer It? Ayes.
THE LICENSE SYSTEM.
Q.-The license is put in your name TO insure
your beer being sold there? Ave invest the
money in the place.
Mr. Goff-Untii ne pays of he Is suppose. ex-
pected to buy from your brewery? Ayes
-.-Q-Do you remember Wasner- telling you, Of any
trouble he had with the police AI YES. o. four
Q-When that? A.-About three or TOUT
Wasner' who is better known as Werner, was or
dered TO stand up. and the witness identihed him.
CAPTAIN CROss's MANDATE.
Q--What was the trouble? Al went to the
CAPTAIN and he showed me Washers card, which
set forth that he was the proprietor Of the place
and as the captain said he knew that he wasn't
and that his license wasn't In his own name he
would have to close up the place
Q.-What did Washer say to you about 1t? A
He told me that Captain Cross closed him up as he
was not the owner of the place, although holding
himself forth as the owner on the printed card:
er? Ale said he closed the place up Pece%ss he
was ons On ny SAID at e ah bo,em
PoODid YOU say that you would like to see any
captain Of police or any ten captains in New;York
who would dare to close up your place o. business
which was a legitimate business? A-Ies:
Q.-You told him that? A.-Yes, told Washer
HE STOOD IN AWE OF THE POLICE
o.-And then did you tell Washer that. although
YOU knew the saloon could not be legally inter-
fered with stu you would close 1t up rather than
fight the police? Al closed the place because
Captain Cross said Washer could not run 1t on my
license.
Mr. Jerome-It is ex-Captain Cross you mean.
Everybody laughed at this correction.
The Chairman-Dil Captain Cross have any other
nroof but that card that Washer the proprle-
tor? A.-No.
OWN you swear that you didn't say to Was
that had 200 many IN TIA, that
you couldn't afford to fight the police? Al can
no o ns9a o could pdi no, afford to hsh the police
cause II would lnjure your business! A-Ihey couid
not injure my business for they are all respectable
The Chairman-Now. then. II this was respect
able place why hdu you " Siose ~ w o. wv"
The chairman and Mr.. Golf both seemed to be
getting impatient with the witness. whose weak at
Tempt to shield the captain was so apparent
right TO run the saloon in your own name so long
as YOU owned II. even though Washer said he was
the proprietor and had printed cards to that effect?
o.-And why then. did you allow Captain Cross
to close 1t up? A-Because the captain said he
would no, allow 1t TO be run with Washer in charge
o. (Ey Mr. Goff)-Didn't Washer pay you some
money on account Of that saloon? Al don't know
0~You let Washer enter into a contract with you
for the purchase Of that saloon. and yet you took
away your license from him and allowed 1t to be
closed up? Ayes. sir.
The committee got tired Of the witness. and
did counsel. and they let him 60
THE OLD WITNESS ON THE STAND.
Carl Werner was then called to the stand. His
face was familiar to everybody present. Werner
kept a disordery house in Delancey-st.. and had
testified at previous sittings OF the committee. He
10 at present prisoner in the Tombs the charge
of having attempted to bride a policeman and is
held In 1900 bail. District-Attorney Fellows came
had a whispered conversation with Mr.. Gof aftef
which Mr.. Gof announced that Colonel Fellows
had informed him that there would be obstruction
OF people coming TO the District Attorneys Office
that there had becn-and that he had further told
Mr.. Con- that he would lower the bail from 500 TO
n,S9o 49,, s ,,.,n,nr ,,,, T.. o,.nno,
his name when COINS into the liquor business to Was
ner BY reason of having spent some years In Sing
Sing. and he didn't want ~ be known by the police
house IN sDelancey-st. and that he had testified be-
fore the committee previously that he had paid
money TO pocs officials for protection. He had
not proceeded any further when Nj ion. speaking