The herald. [microfilm reel] (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1893-1900, 1894-07-24
l pause for a reply from my colleague
from Missouri"

with the secretary OF the treasury he
had frequently conversed. Mr.. Carlisle
had repeatedly and distinctly stated to
him that the greatest possible calamity
that could happen would be the failure
of any bill. He had distinctly slated to
him that no difference in rates should
be allowed to stand in the way OF the
contamination of some kind of tariff re-
form. His colleague. Mr.. Jones, had
seen both Mr.. Carlisle sld Mr.. Cleve-
land. They both declared that the bill
was acceptable to them. The bill did
not quit him (Vest); he knew it must
have the support of the administration
to pass it, and he ssked Senator Jones ii
the president would throw the weight
of his influsncs into 1t. Mr.. Jones re-
piled that the president had said to MIN :
II am willing TO do anything to pass the
bill through congress-"
'If we 70 into this fight the president
must be behind u.s." Mr.. Vest had said.
Mr.. Jones replied that be was.
"Thereupon, said Mr.. Vest, II gave
up my personal opinions and resolved to
support it. The presidents letter was
the frst intimation to me that he was
against it,"
JONES CORROBoRATEs IT.
When Vest sat down, Mr.. Jones, who
was in charge of the bill in the senate,
took the floor. He was az pale as death.
He realized, he said, when the bill came
to the senate that it could not be passed
in it's form thcn, and he had gone to
interview every Democratic senator. He
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carefully noted it. He had talked with
Mr.. Carlisle about his plan. and the
president endorsed it. Then he (Jones)
ton with Mr.. Carlisle. The secretary
was thoroughly informed "a to the situa-
ton, and he (Jones) had said to him;
II will not 90 one step farther II tho
administration 10 not behind me-"
II requested him to explain every
thing to the preaident," said Mr.. Jones.
II saw the president. He told me
Mr.. Carlisle had explained all. He
(Cleveland) said he thought We were
doing what was the wise and proper
thing. Among the amendments thus
prepared were those placing coal and
iron on the dutisble list. Until | read
Mr.. Cleveland's letter to Mr.. Wilson,"
said MIR. Jones en- phatically, II believed
be cordially approved our action. had
expressed to MIN the opinion that 1t
must be either this modified bill or
mono at all, and he had replied that in
the alternative he favored the modified
measure"
Villas INTERPosEs.
As Mr.. Jones sat down Mr.. German
arose to resume, but Mr.. Villas inter
posed with series OF questions to Jones.
"In your interview with the preei-
dent" asked Mr. Villas. "wers the sub
jects DIP
YES" replied Mr.. Jones with ex-
ton between the president and myself,
coal and iron were specially mentioned"
There was q burst of applause from
the gallery which the presiding officer
had difficulty in checking.
"And," continued Jones, with meas
ured emphasis on each word, "the
president never uttered one solitary
word about going ahead with coal and
iron in the bills as then in the senate"
lone more question:" said Mr.. Villas,
.'did not the president express the hope
at all times that iron and coal should
be on the free list?"
"At all times, but il was the ex-
precision OF a hope that the circum-
stances would permit realization"
HARRIS THE THIRD WITNESS.
Senator German next summoned Sem
ator Harris, who left the presiding Off
GERS chair for the purpose al witness.
Senator Harris stated that in converse
ton with Mr.. Cleveland he (HHrris) had
been led to conclude that the president
favored the passage of the compromise
tariff bill, not because he approved 1t,
but because it was the best that could DO
secured
CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.
Mr.. German then resumed: "Now,
Mr.. President, my distinguished friend
the chairman OF this committee. the dis.
tinguished senator from Indiana, has
had intimate connection, Of course, with
this measure throughout. happen to
know that he ia feeling very we'll today
and expects himself to make his OWE
statement before the close of the discus
sion, therefore shall not ask him today
to give the country the benefit OF hi
statement, 80 that all the truth in con
nection with this matter may 60 to thu
people.
AN EXTRAORDINARY PROCEEDING.
GAS have said. sir, this Ia q mos
extraordinary proceeding for Demo
GRAFT elected to the highest place in tn
government to traduce the senate OF tn,
United States; to blacken the character
OF senators who are as honorable az b
dare claim to be; who are az patriot
az be can ever be; who have done a.
much to serve their party as the mel
who are now the benefciaries of you
labor and mine, and who taunt and jee
us before the country as the advocate
of trusts-as being guilty Of disaono
and per6dy. 1t ia time to speak. Tn
limit of endurance has been reached
The senate owes it to itself. Ever
senator here who is part of this Dem
ocratic majority owes it to himself.
THE PRESIDENT DEFIED.
"There 10 no power, nc matter ho'
great-not even the president with hi
patronage-that would keep me sileu
longer under the charges, under tn
imputation so foully made from sue
distinguished quarters. hurl it BAG
to him and say this treatmentis infs
nous. 1t lie destructive to the govern
ment that men in high positions shout
attempt to lower this body-a body cor
servative, consisting Of SO great repre-
sentatives of states. No man can reac
here by devious ways and remain lonQ
It ie composed of men who represent tn