Capital journal. (Salem, Or.) 1893-1895, 1894-08-08

dent and Chief Justice Judd allowed
me still other opportunity of forming
an elevated opinion Of the present head
Of the Hawaiian government. The cor.
diality with which we had been receiv.
ed by the present ruler and the former
queen interested Us more and more in
the present condition and the future
happiness of the Sandwich Islands
Hearing Both Sides on Hawaiian Affairs.
Aware Of the different ways of look
ing at things and of putting things,
resolved to get the story of Hawaiian
affairs from opposite sides. We have
always taken it for granted that and
, make 4, and yet 2 and 2 may be 30
placed as to make %. The figure is
only the figure 8 turned upside down.
There are not many things like the
| figure 8-the same whichever side is up.
The different accounts l here present
arc reports from different standpoints.
| had opportunity of earnest and pro-
longed conversation with q royalist, edu-
Gated, truthful, of high moral charac-
ter, born i'll these islands, and of great
observation and experience. The fol-
lowing conversation took place between
us:
Question-Do you think tho ex-queen
a good woman?
Answer--I have seen the queen very
often have been one of her advisers
and my wife has been with her much of
the time from childhood and has seen
her morning, noon and night and under
all circumstances, and neither of us has
ever witnessed anything compromising
IN her character, She has made mis-
takes, as all make them, but she is fully
~ to tho moral standard of the worlds
rulers She is the impersonation OF
,indness, end neither my wife nor my
| self nor any one else has ever heard hel
| say q word against any one. In that eX-
ccieuco she is prc-eminent In proof OF
| her good character | have to state the
| faCt that there is not a household in
| Honolulu that did not feel honored by
| her presence. If she had been such a
corrupt character as some correspond
ents have represented her, ! do not
think that the best men and women OF
the Hawaiian Islands would have sought
her for guest and associate.
Q.-Do you think she has been un
| justly treated?
Al do. She has been most infa-
mously treated. While our island was
at peace and with no excuse for inter
ference the United States troops were
landed A group of men, backed up by
| the United States minister and troops,
| formed a cabinet and chose president
and sent committee to the palace and
told the queen to leave the place. 1t
was another case of Naboth's s vineyard.
! The simple fact is that there were men
who wanted the palace and the offices,
and the salaries. From affluent posi-
tion she was reduced in position until
she had to mortgage the little left to
her to pay commissioners to go to Wash
ington and present her side of the case
! AS l said, she made mistakes, but she
was willing to correct them and in a
public manifesto declared she was will
ing to retrace her steps in the matter of
the "new constitution. She had as
much right 10 her throne as any ruler
on earth has right to throne, but
by sharp practice when she was unsus-
pecting the United States troops drove
her from the palace, took possession of
the armament and inaugurated a new
| government
The RoYalist View.
Q.-If the choice of royalty or an
nexation were put to the vote of the
people, what do you think would be the
decision?
A.-The queens restoration by a ma
iority Of at least 10 to /. We who
are royalists are without exception in
favor of leaving these matters to the
ballot box In the United States the
majority governs, and the majority OF
the people of the Hawaiian Islands
ought to have the same privilege of gov
erning.
Q.-Are the Hawaiians property
holders or nomads?
A.-They are property holders. They
have their homes. They have practi-
cal interest in public affairs. Moreover,
they are for the most part intelligent.
You can hardly find Hawaiian born
since 1910 who cannot read and write.
Q.-What do you think is the most
provoking item in the condition of your
country?
Alt is that a professed friendly
power has robbed us of our government.
All the nations Of the earth consider
that your nation has done us wrong
Q.-Taking conditions as they now
are, what do you think had better be
done, or is that hemisphere conun-
drum?
Alt is hemisphere conundrum.
Our queen is dethroned, and her palace
and her military forces are in the pos
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