The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1894-03-14
A VOTE AGAINST THE LORDS
The House in FayOT Of Abolition Of
the Veto Power.

ny JOlu IhutlSy, IOfu nduuOtpu OnufCn-
hill, John Redmond and Joseph Chamber
lain, Henry Labouchere arose to speak.
Mr.. Labouchere said he was one of the
many who were dissatisfied with the
manner in which the liberal party had
been transferred to its new leader
What, he asked, had they been engaged
In throughout the evening, except dis
cusslng the words used by Lord Rosbery
in the House of Lords. Personally he was
a supremely simple person. Laughter
He gave those words their plain meaning
Therefore, he concurred with Mr.. Red
mond in saying that the position of home
rule had been entirely changed by the
remarks of Lord Rosebery yesterday.
lCrles Of mol Nom
What, he asked, were the facts? Did
he understand that home rule depended
upon an English majority in its favor3 If
that were fact why had the time of the
last session been wasted over a bill that
did not yet have a British majority2 Why
he inquired, should the House of Lords
be consulted on the question of home
rule2. Mr. Gladstone had declared that
home rule was the absolute right of Ire
land without any reference to a majority
Of the United Kingdom. For Lord Rose
berry to say that home rule should not be
granted until 1t had an English majority
was distinct retrogression of party pol
icy. Cheers from the Irish benches.
MANDATE FROM HIS CONSTITUENTS.
His constituents had given him posi-
tive mandate that If there was no declara-
tion in the Queens speech in favor Of
home rule, or no distinct announcement
that the cabinet meant to fight against
the House of Lords, ne must move an
amendment to the address regarding the
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There could not possibly be
a worse body of men to
perform what were the supposed duties Of
the second chamber, than the present
lords He, for one, was tired of pouring
sound radical liquor into vat with a
bung, like Lord Salisbury, ready to let 1t
all out. Laughter. 1t was said that
object lessons like the lords was required
by the country. The radicals had had
and were now ready to go
in and fight to crush the House of
Lords ICheersl The existing state of
things is intolerable He favored the alb
solute abolition of the House of Lords,
but was still ready to accept a paralysis
Of their veto power. He could not for
moment suppose that the Lords them
selves would prefer abolition to being
kept like rocks in rookery, simply TO
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MOVES THE AMENDMENT.
Mr. Labouchere then moved an amend
ment to the address that the power now
enjoyed by persons who were not elected
to parliament by the usual process of
franchise, yet who are able to prevent
the passage of bills, shall cease.
Sir William Harcourt, chancellor of the
exchequer opposed the amendment in an
impressive speech, taking the ground that
action of such a grave character ought to
be taken only after the most serious
deliberation.
When the division was taken, 147 mem
bers voted in favor of the Labouchere
amendment and l45 against it. There
was much excitement in the lobbies after
the announcement of the vote. The di-
vision was moved purposely during the
dinner hour, when one-half one of the
members were absent. Mr. Laboucheree
was congratulated on his victory
and was chaffingly asked when
he would undertake the formation of
ministry. The majority of the minis
terials do not disapproye Mr.. Labour-
chere's victory, but they are perplexed
over the governments defeat. In looking
up precedents, it had been found that the
only way of getting rid of an amendment
like Mr. Labouchere's, is by having the
house vote on the address as a whole.
THE RESULT A SURPRISE.
The result of the division on Mr. Labou-
chere's amendment partook of the nature
of a surprise not only to the government.
but to many of the radicals who had
voted in favor of the amendment Sew
eral OF the latter ayowed this evening
that their object in supporting the
amendment was merely to give a good di-
vision against the House of Lords
a 10 baf haA hot
there vas any prospect of the
amendment being carried. 1t was in fact
a Jump In the dark and they brought up
at a place at which they did not expect
to arrive. The action that will be taken
by the government in view of the defeat
inflicted upon it by its whilom supporters,
is matter of conjecture. The prospect
of the resignation Of the cabinet was
general topic in the lObbies of the House
OF Commons this evening. 1t is expected
that the cabinet will meet tomorrow to
discuss the matter.
RosEBERY AND HOME RULE.
Lord Rosebery's exact language in tho
House Of Lords last night on the subject
of Irish home rule was as follows Lord
Salisbury made one remark on the
subject of home rule with which |
confess myself in entire accord He
said that before Irish home rule could be
conceded Dy the imperial parliament,
England, as the predominant member Of
the partnership of the three kingdoms,
must be convinced Of its justice. That
may seem TO be considerable
admission, because your lordships well
know that the majority of the English
members elected in England proper are
hostile TO home rule.
Il believe that the conviction of Eng
land regarding home rule depends upon
one point alone. the conduct Of ireland
herself / believe that if we continue to
show the absence of agrarian crime and
continue to point 10 harmony in ireland.
the liberal party of the country will
continue 10 give proofs and pledges
that Ireland is entitled 10 the boon, which
she has never ceased TO demand since the
act of union was passed. | believe the
conversion Of England will not be slow or
diffcult.
TRIPLE ASPECT.
"The question Of home rule has triple
aspect.
'First-Ireland will never be contented
until home rule is granted, and the policy
of administering palliatiyes is bound to
fail
''Secoud-We have not merely to sat
isfy those living in Ireland, but for the
good Of the empire and the continuity and