The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1894-06-12

Mr. Wilder believed u was a move ~
the right direction. lie did not believe
woman suffrage was feature OF politics
desirable at present, but it was u COM
ing condition and he hoped the subject
would receive proper consideration.
Delegate J. Kauhane spoke in favor
of the cause OF the women.
Mr.. Kahauleio agreed with Mr..
Wilder that the matter should be con-
sidered but he did not believe in giving
the suffrage to ignorant Hawaiian and
Portuguese women. In fifteen years
the country might be prepared Tor it,
but it certainly was not now.
Mr.. Baldwin's motion to table for con-
sideraton with any petition that may
come in carried
Article IS, "Method OF Voting for
Senator's" passed as read.
Article IS, Qualifications Of Voters
Tor Senator's" was read This article
Incorporates all Of the qualifications pro-
vided in the case OF electors for Repre-
sentatives, with the additional qualities
ton of owning $4,000 worth OF property,
or AN income OF $500.
Mr.. Nivas moved to strike out the
above figures and make it $1,000 in
property or an income OF 5000.
Mr.. Kahaulelio spoke at great length
in favor OF reducing to $500 income.
Mr.. Kalua was in favor of placing the
property qualification at so 900 with an
income of 5000 as proposed by Mr..
Vivas. The income qualification of $500
would bring in many good men, me-
chanics and others, who could not reach
it at 5000. Then by putting the prop
erty qualification at 81, 900 it would take
away the inducement for some people
to stand on the street corner and figure
on how much property they would have
to acquire to become voter for Senat-
ors. They'd go to work and earn the
5000.
Mr.. Baldwin did not feel like voting
upon the question and moved referring
the whole article to special committee.
Mr.. Brown opposed referring to Il
committee. We were now in COM
mittee OF the whole, and here was the
place to debate the question. The
Senate was the upper house and should
be carefully guarded. Restrictions
should be thrown around the manner OF
its formation, and he was in favor OF
leaving it at $4,000 property or $500
income.
Mr.. Damon agreed with Mr.. Kalua,
Rare intelligence could be found among
men who earned but $50 per month.
Men Of this class were readers, thinkers,
and had little deposits in the Postal
Savings bank. At $500 it took in the
middle classes, including the mechanics,
the stone masons, the stone cutters and
others, classes you do not want to rule
out in the formation OF this Republic.
This class is really the bone and sinew
OF the Government.
Mr.. Emmeluth asked the President
what property" in the section meant
whether real or personal. He was COM
mitted to the proposition of giving the
home builders all the advantage posi-
| Bile. He was in favor OF wide discrimi-
nation between real and personal prop
erty holders. He favored $500 in real
and $4,000 in personal property, with an
| income qualification Of 5000.
Mr.. Ables was in favor OF forming
the Government for the common good
and not ior the profit, honor or private
interest of any one man or class of men
| He supported Mr.. Nivas' motion OF
$1,000 property or $500 income qualifica,
tions.
Delegate Robertson was in favor OF
such qualifications as viii insure the
present party's predominance in the
Senate. He believed, however, tina
Sc 900 and 5000 would do this. The
provision as in the draft would cut the
voters down to about one thousand il
number. We could afford to be littl,
more liberal.
Mr.. Emmeluth moved to make it
personal property $1,000, or, real prop
erty 81 900, leaving the income qualific
alton at 5000
Mr.. Iosepa was in favor OF passing i
at $4,000 and 5000 income. He woul,
put the matter beyond the reach OF tn
enemies of the Government. His con
stituents would not accept lowe
figure than this, and he himself though
the figures low enough. Propert
supporters OF the present Government
and we must not betray them an
place their interests IN jeopardy b
going to sleep, trusting everythin
to circumstances and giving the enC
mics OF good government chanc,
These will have representation in tn
house, and the plan supported by hin
self worked no undue hardships.
Minister w. o. Smith thought tn
one OF the most important items of til
constitution and he now favored givin
it to committee. No man in the con
vention or in the country desired {
deprive man of his vote
whose hands the ballot woul
be safe. He referred to Victorii
! Australia and Belgium where system
giving the large holders the great,
voice in the administration OF the aftai
OF State, were in vogue, aud were col
sidered just and right. More syste
along this line might have defeated Il
troubles OF the past several years.
The Committee then took u recess
80 p. m.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
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