St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-06-05
tariff LEGISLATION had talked to him

tariff legislation had talked to him
about their business.
With reference to the note of intro
duction which he gave to Mr.. Have
meyer to Senator Mills. he said that he
wrote the letter for him as he wrote
letters for others interested In tariff ieg
islatiOn to other members of the COM
mittee, and he hoped If the note were
still in existence 1t would he made
public. He said he had knows Mr..
Havemeyer for number of years. and
MIR. Havemeyer had stated that he
knew Senator Mills. but feared the
latter would not see him unless he had
the note. He had never refused to
write such letter if he thought the
man who requested it was gentleman.
MIR. Haveneyer, he said, had called
to see him about the tariff legislation Oh
sugar, as had also Mr.. Searles and
Henry r. Reed. of Boston, and all had
talked about this matter, but he could
not remember what they had said.
There had been, however. no intimatiOn
from any Of them that the Democratic
party was under obligations to the sugar
trust.
Mr.. Carlisle denied in emphatic terms
that he had ever made secret call upon
the finance committee or made de-
mand upon them to protect sugar be.
cause of the Democratic party's obliga-
tons to
THE SUGAR TRUST.
Senator McPhersOn'S testimony was
devoted largely to an explanation OF
stock purchases, and the method of con-
Quoting them.
He said that he had argued with the
finance committee as to the sugar sched-
uie.
II did not" he said, flavor the sugar
schedule presented, and did rave some
over that" but he added that he had
never said anything about the Demo
cratic party's being under obligations
TO members of the sugar trust. He said
that If his counsel had been taken the
wilson bill would have been accepted
ny the senate committee without
amendment. He believed in free sugar
II It could be made free and sufficient
amount of revenue secured. Never
| theless he had offered sugar amend
ments in committee. providing for a
| SPECIFIC duty of one cent per pound Oh
sugar testing so degrees, and a gradual
increase of about one mill additional
| TOR each degree of refined sugar. lie
sasd he had never come in contact with
| any OF the sugar retinerS except Mr..
! SeafleS, who had called on him in his
mouse aud demonstrated against the
SCHEDULE he had presented in commit
| Zee. de repeated that lie never knew
! of anyObligations to the sugar trust,
but said he had heard the statement
MADE that the sugar rennerS were in
the habit of giving the Democratic side
small contribution and the Republi-
| cans large one.
Mr.. Mcpherson stated that, while he
kept an office in Wall street, and he
| mad baen i'll the habit for the past seven
| oP eight years OF buying stocks as an
Investment and selling them. he had
not considered himself an operator in
the usual acceptation of the term. He
| said thai. in addition TO the purchases
| OF sugar stock
MADE BY HIS SON
| In February. he had purchased some
| sugar stock in October and November,
| and had sold it in December when con.
| greSS convened.
| Questions put by Senators Allen ana
Davis developed the fact that Senator
McPherson's son had made a profit of
about $1,000 Oh the stock bought on the
| 22d and sold OH the 26th of February.
Closely questioned by Senator Allen,
of Nebraska. Senator Mcpherson said
that 1t was in the power of the sugar
trust to put up or down the price of its
stock. and he knew this before his son
| bought the stock. He also knew that
putting a tariff on sugar would tend to
Increase the value of the stock. He did
not think it right to speculate in stocks
affected by legislation, and had never
done so.
In the course of his examination Sen
ator Mcpherson stated that il haG been
very definitely decided between himself
and his son that the Geographic order
| for sugar stock of Feb. % was not to be
| sent, and that his son went to New
York the night it was written. He
thought the order had been carelessly
left on the desk, and had been inadyert-
emily sent by a servant.
Representative Jonn Dewitt Warner
was examined on the basis of a news
paper statement that an effort which
had been insigated by men of great
prominence i'll the Democratic party
had been made to cause Mr.. Warner to
cease his fight for free sugar while the
tariff bill was pending in the house.
MIR. Warner said that the suggestion
mad been made to him that If there were
not duty on sugar, the sugar trust
WOULD BEAT THE BILL.
but he declined to stale from whence
the question had come; it was from
members of the house of representa-
tives. He said he had heard very little
about the sugar trust until the day be-
fore the tariff bill passed the house. and
1t it4d then become noised abroad that
that Interest was organized for the pur-
pose OF defeating his amendment. and
carrying duty on sugar.
Senator Davis asked witness how
many times i'll the course of the coDsid-
Grafton of the bill in the house it was in
timated to him that persons in the sugar
interest had contributed to the success
OF the Democratic party in New York.
Mr.. Warner answered that this phase
of the question had frequently been sug-
gested him, not as Information, but
as probability. In regard to alleged
contributions TO the campaign funds by
the sugar trust. Mr.. Warner said he had
heard it charged that there was one
amounting to perhaps S300,000 but he
knew nothing about it. Mr.. Warner re-
fused to give the names of representa-
tlveS and others with whom ha had
talked, saying that he had conversed
with these persons i'll confidence, and
that they had given him information
rather than attempted in any improper
way to influence his course. He thought
many of them intended in a general way
to show him that the size of the work he
had undertaken was too great for his
strength.
Senator Vest also denied the state
mentS. He said that Mr.. Carlisle was
in the committee room from time to
time and consulted with the members
of the committee i'll regard to the a-itf
bill; that he expressed great anxiety
that the committee should agree upon
some measure, and that it should be-
come law, but he made no statement
about party obligations to the sugar
trust. Mr.. Vest said he had an indis.
tinct recollection of Mr.. Carlisle draw
ing up provision In regard to sugar,
but he did not know that he had ever
seen it. At any rate, it was not the
schedule that was adopted, and that if
he did prepare a schedule, his prepare
ton of it had no connection With the
reported scene in the committee room,
which never occurred. He pronounced
as a lie made out OF whole cloth the