The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1894-10-09
HIBBRNIAN DISPUTE.
Two Factions Of the Ancient
Order Have a Wordy
War.

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of Erin, which is the newly organized
branch of the A. o, H. in This country.
The controversy grew out of the ac-
cusations made by the adherents of each
of these gentlemen thai the other had
lone more harm than good in his efforts
to unite the two wings of the organiza-
ton. It began early in August, but did
not grow interesting until August Z, when
MIR. Hayes, in an open letter, broadly
intimated that Mr.. Holmes did not know
what he was talking about when he
said the American Order has a member
ship of 125, 600.
HAYES HAS DOUBTS.
In reply Mr.. Holmes, in a letter bear
ing date of August II, cites the fact Lnat
Mr.. Hayes pretends to doubt the ciaim
he made when he declared thar me
order he represents numbers 12o,o0 IN une
Unitnd States and Canada. Continu-
ing Mr.. Holmes says, after -hoping ne
will not lose his temper:-
Solid fact confined to this terrestrial
sphere is what l hope to confne myself
to, leaving the exploration of Venus
Luna and the other celestial bodies to
men of such brilliant and fertile I'M
He then calls attention to the fact that
in his first letter he quoted from a re-
| port made by the National offieers. 10
a convention held in Omaha, Neb., last
"Admitting for the sake of argument"
he continues q tin that "a our me n eaw 9oe IS
that compare with the insignificant poay
of which he is a member whose. totai
membership in the United States is less
than 10000"
He insists. that Mr.. Hayes proves his
claim, that the body of which he. (Hayesl
is a member, comprises the seceders, ana
bases his assertion on a quotation in Mr.;
Hayes letter, taken from the report OF
the National officers, as follows:-"fhe
exposition of such weakness on the part
| of the Board of Erin c~onyinces the Ma
tional officers that said board Is unht
to preside at the head of an ~organiZa-
ton of the magnitude of ours (meaning
Mr.. Holmes further says that this
same quotation proves that the National
officers were convinced that a grlevouS
injustice had been done by the Board
of Erin to the organization in America.
He charges that the secession was due 10
men who were dissatisfied because they
could not control the convention at
York City the permanent National head
quarters, and further that the same men
misrepresented the actions of himself
and his colleagues to the National Board,
and then without any further ado tgnor-
ed the National Board and r~eorganized
the rebellious board set up in New YORK
"Had the National organization in
America tamely submitted to such tyran-
nica1grand unjust treatment" Mr.. Holmes
c~onCnpeS, II Woulu pe ueSsrVilS VI ooh-
He next tackles Mr.. Hayes for fail
ing to disclose the fact in any OF his
open letters, that the Board OF Erin, as
the injustice they had done, reconsider
ed their action and ordered the. seceders
to become affiliated, with the old organ
~dzation and acknowledge its national Of
ficers as the lawful head, of the order in
THE BISHOP MISTAKEN.
r. r-l--~- -~.rk 10 vaanktn f0
a statement sof Bishop McQuaide's, in
which he is quoted as saying that the
order Mr.. Holmes represents has no con-
body in Europe. Mr.. Holmes disposes
of this assertion by maintaining that
the good Bishop is mistaken or had been
if the Bishop had made the statement in
any other place than a Catholic church,
a place considered too sacred by all
good Catholics for any laynan to speak
a minister of our Church, ! have no
doubt that some member would have at.
tempted to enlighten the good Bishop
charge made by Mr.. Hayes that he
sought the office of State Treasurer at
the last convention. Dropping this sub
State or National convention since the
secession from the order occurred In 1884,
| that I did not urge upon our delegates
the daty they owed to faith Attn, and m0the r.
bri.fg about a reunion of the members
| of Iip2the Ancient Order at home and
"Arahbishop Corrigan, Monsignor Far
ley, Bishop foley, our national chap
lain, and other bishops, priests and lay
men have labored in the same direction,
mythical Board of Erin have always
blocked the way:
"From the way that every effort of ours
has been thwarted in the past, and from
the bitter and vindictive spirit displayed
by Mr. Hayes toward the officers and
men,pers of the three divisions who have
| left them and reunited with US in Hud-
SON county, | am reluctantly forced to
| say, that as far as ] am concerned. no
further negotiations shall be entered into
on d my part tne eSee d,tr on N tas 3 aiSfin s6a 9dde n
America, and our Board of Erin in
Europe. shall be ]reeognized and respect aspect
mead of our order throughout the world.
HAYES REPLIES.
In reply to the foregoing, Mr.. Hayes
tackles its author in this STYLE,
"He commences his article with an act
| of hope. tina he may not lose his temper.
| Whether he lost 1t or not 1t is hard to
say; still / will be charitable enough
to make some allowance for him as the
peevish disposition of some men lenders
! it impossible for them to make a reply
in which they wish to be slightly severe
| without becoming insulting.
HE complains that my communication
was peppery. Let me review his article
and see If / am not justihable in salt
ing this one. He hopes to confine him
| self to solid facts. Here is one, He
says, admitting for the sake Of argu-
ment, that their membership IS only
knew when he wrote those words that
I never said or attempted to say or pre-
tended to know what was the member
| shin of the order that has the great
honor of claiming him as one OF It's
H makes the claim that the Board
| tional officers of 1884 abused, and Will
fed, reconsidered their action and ac-
knowledged his national officers as the
| lawful head of the order. in this coun-
try. Why, MI. Holmes, no sane man
| would believe such an argument as that
after reading the printed circular sent
EVIDENCE FROM SCOTLAND.
Mr.. Hayes backs up this assertion by
/ reference to a letter from Daniel Hark-
| ms. Chairman of the Orthodox Board
| of Erin, dated at Grenoch, Scotland, to
| Morris Wilherr, a member of the Amer
lean Board. In 1t the writer says that
the board had seen its folly in sending
merchandise land ignoring through your
false misrepresentation the legally elect
ed officers, and I now once and forever
notify you, as we are the representa-
tiyes of truth and nothing. else, that we
have decided to ignore all bogus matters
and recognize the duly elected officers
handles Mr.. Holmes without gloves in
regard to his assertion that Bishop Nc
Ouaide, when he said his order had no
connection in Europe, was misinformed.
After saying that every man in Hudson
county was of the same opinion as the