New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-06-16
SENATOR'S ON THE STAND.
THE INVESTIGATING COMMITTEE TO
HAVE THEM ALL BEFORE 1T.

SENATOR BRICE's STORY OF THE AIRING
TON CONFERENCE AND TALKS WITH
Mr. HAvEMEYER- NOTHING KNOWN
OF CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
BY THE TRUST.
Washington, June 1.-THE Sugar Trust in
vestigating Committee started to-day what is
considered the most direct and most important
branch of the inquiry 1t consists IN the ex
animation Of the individual members Of the Sen
ate In alphabetical order to their knowledge
of or connection with dealings in Sugar stock
or the sugar legislation Of the Tariff bill The
committee made excellent progress examining
each of its five members and all the Senators.
with few exceptions. from to II inclusive.
Before beginning the examination of their col
leagues the members Of the committee heard
the testimony Of Theodore A. Havemeyer OF
the American Sugar Refining Company. but
nothing new was developed from his answers.
The examination Of Senators based on
number OF carefully prepared questions, SO
framed that the committee believes that no
Senator who has ever touched Sugar stock or
had anything to do with the members OF the
Trust in connection with legislation can make
even a technical denial or evasive answer Of any
sort without putting himself in a questionable
position These questions are as follows:
|. Have you been in attendance at the present
session OF Congress during the pendency OF The
Tariff bill in the Senate?
> Have you given any information, directly or
Indirectly, to any Interested In sugar stocks.
so-called. or in the stock of the American Sugar
Refining Company, that intended or calculated
3. Have you bought or sold. directly or ndI-
rectly since the beginning Of this session or Congress
any sO-callcd Sugar stock or stocks, or STOCK OF
certificates OF the American Sugar Refining Com
pany? IL, $500 ~ &,
interest direct Indirect contingent or otherwise,
in any operation whether 10y purchase or sale. OF
s Has any one bought or sold FOR your account
in your interest any Of such stocks ~ specuated
In any of such stocks your account. or given
you TO understand that You would share IN me
profits Of any operation IN snc1 stocnS GI pAt r
purchase or sale OF such stocks. or promised or
s Has any member II your family or any per
son in your employ or any clerk employed under
the laws Of the Tinted your service. oecn.
IL your knowledge interested IN any of the ways
indicated any Of the preceding questions In any
transaction IN sugar stocks OF certificates during
the period mentioned ,.,,..
:. Have YOU. or any member OF your AMY or or
American Sugar Refining Company during me period
: Have YOU Al any time been connected with tho
American Sugar Refining Company. or have You at
any time been in It's employ as attorney. agent or
otherwise?
The members ~ the committee senator's Gray
chairman. Lindsay Davis. Lodge AMI Aren-
were examined before the alphabetical lls' was
begun and answered each question in th- Mega
tive with ih. exception II the first. which re-
quirei some explanation.
SENATOR BRICEs TESTIMONY.
The most interesting. n no; The most important
testimony ~ the day was that 81 senator cal
win : Brice. whose name has been s., Frequently
connected with speculation ia Sugar and with
the legislation on the sugar sch -luis l'hc *
rtrf. 81. fif hoe
questions given because other witnesses bad
broueh, in his name IN giving their testimony
Senator Gray read % Mr. Brice The staten Int u
Mr.. Edwards. In The Philadelphia Press" al
Iegng that senator Brce was sp",dli,'r IN
Sugar stocks and then put this question:
ask you Senator. whether that statement. which
to lmpute that YOU ana oihcrt nave ptrh
enabled 70 accumulair wealth uron me pronan i
course Of legislation Is true. ana I" stat" "A' you
Mr.. Brice-Ilofore or since entering TIE senate
Alr Gray-Sincr entering the ,enhi~
Mr.. Brc--but may as well answer as to tie
ben concerned IL any spccuati,us or invcftu"n's.
interests IN them. the result ~ which d'i'rd-l
entering tho S.uaf. have not bc~r concerned In
o,y ~ drcc,lv ar inIireciiy IN any property
securities stocks Investments or aI"culaiions IN
a., 's , inv d, he End ~ The free si Win he
EXCEPTION II some local manufacturing establish
menis In Lima and adjoining towns in ONO. Nor
have sought 10 acclfuia,e sca eo,ers M,
senate. in any Of the things which / have men
things with which / am concerned not con
nected with affected by Tho operations 81 ne
Tariff act. except al the general proI,rty OF me
country is There IS 10 truth whatever IN H. so FAR
AIR az GrsVNIt is stated IN the article 10 which
have referred and It has been In testimony b. fore
the committee that YOU were present In The airing
Haven. YER president OF the American Sugar Re
hnns Company AMI soine ot9er peTson or IerSonr
stocks WAS discussed and the eject of the taTh
lar schedule desired by the Sugar Trust so-caied.
considered
THE CONFERENCE At THE AtHINGTON.
Mr. Brice-I was never present at any confer
ence or meeting whore any such subject was dis
cissel ! was a. the Arlington Hotel on the sven
ing OF the 7th OF March last, at the room Of Mr.
II l. Terrell OF Ncw-York (for the past thirty
years one Of my most intimate friends. ! called AT
Mr. Tcrrcrs room for the purpose 90 me- ting him
AMI "A common friend a Ncw-iorN lawyer inter
crtel In railway matters. ana not concerned With or
interested IN the Tariff bill ia any way We spent
. .rhaps an hour and half without any other per
son being present Mr. Terrell. WIN whom hrd
for many years business Interests. but with whom
nave had no Interests whatever IN any way for
moro than six years last past. said mat ne was
Interested IA Sugar. and discuss u the question OF
s s,1e &C. Tax "bont which was conccrn,d Mr
Terrell said that Mr.. Henry Havemcyer was IN he
that ! might get Mr. liavemeyer's statement pre-
sumlng him - be the best Informed man in the
minutes talk the subject
The Chalrman-Lct me ask there. were you previ-
ously acquainted with Mr.. liavemcyer;
IIAVEMEYER ATTACKED THE DEMOCRATS.
Senator Brice-If had been at all acquainted
with Mr.. Haveneyer II was no more than "A
familiarity with his face lie went back 10 his own
room. and brought from that TO Mr. Terrells room
some twelve cases Of sugar Of various Kinds.
both raw ana refined. and discussed the manu-
facture Of sugar. the different kinds OF sugar, the
price In various markets and the effects or specific
and al valorem duties. for some time. possibly
three-quarters OF hour, possibly an hour. !
said 10 MIR IIavemeyer that there was strong
feeling against "A sugar. and against any
additional tax refined sugar ana that hnd
great doubt whether the Senate and the House
would not put sugar. both raw and refined. on
the free list
The Chairman-The House,
senator Bricc-And the Senate said both the
senate and the House would not put both raw
nj renned The free list MI. IIhNemeyer be-