The herald. [microfilm reel] (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1893-1900, 1894-07-21


such utter morsl depravity that no wac
absolutely Incapable of crime. He was
acquitted. Aflerward he came TO me to
thank me for the verdict. In doing 60
he said, however, that he would rather
go to the penitentiary for life than again
lieten to the defense 1 made for him."
Applause
GRAY MAKES A SPEECH.
Mr.. Gray moved that the senate insist
upon it's amendments. and consent to
further conference. Mr.. HIPS motion,
however, will under the rules take prece.
dence.
There was nothing, said Mr.. Gray, in
speaking to his motion, that had oc-
Cured to make unusual action on the
part OF the senate necessary. He did
not think it was necessary to retreat on
account OF the attitude OF the house or
threats from any quarter. He COM
mended the wisdom which had over
come the difficulties which stood in the
way OF passing the bill.
PERSONAL CONTROVERSY.
At this point very hot personal con-
trovsrsy developed between Senators
Gray and Hill. Mr.. Gray said that DUR
ing the time tho Democratic senators
were epdeavoring to agree upon tariff
bill that would command 43 Democratic
votes, the senator from New York never
raised his voice in favor OF the doctrine
OF free raw materials, which he now ad-
vocated.
Mr.. Hilton every occasion when the
subject of free coal and iron ore was up,
l advocated that there be no duties
levied upon them.
Mr.. Gray-There are 80 senators with
in the sound Of my voice that know what
l cay ia absolutely correct.
Mr.. Hill-Will the senator from Della
ware name time when failed to 60 on
record for the position l now occupy?
Mr.. Gray-I did not cay the senator
went on record, nor do refer to what
occurred in the senate.
Mr.. Hlll-What other record?
Mr.. Gray-The senator well knows to
what refer.
Mr.. Hill know OF no euch occasion.
Mr. Gray-Does not the senator from
New York know of the long conference
which occupied the Democratic senators
over this bill?
Mr.. Hill recollect well and will
never forget it.
Mr.. Gray-During that time 1 and
other Democratic senators never heard
the voice of the senator from New York
raised in behalf of free coal and iron ere.
Mr.. Hill-The senator knows spoke
at length upon this item. I did not 20
into the details of the bill, coal and iron
ore were not discussed by other cen
atora.
Mr.. Gray-The senator from New
York has arraigned his fellows in the
senate for not supporting his amend
msn.s. decline to take instructions
from him.
Mr.. Hill-Does the senator mean to
say that have endeavored to instruct
him?
This was said with such deliberate
diatinctness and Mr.. Hill had advanced
from the back row to within such O short
distance of MIR. Gray that there was an.
ticipated q close and bitter war of words.
Gray gazed into the eyes OF the senator
from New York for second and said
II do not want any personal con-
troversy with the senator from New
York. The Democrats of the senate
know, and l know, the senator from
New York has taken every occasion to
tell the Democratic senators what they
should dc and how they should proceed
in the matter Of dealing with this BILL"
Mr.. Hill asked Mr.. Gray to say what
he had said in the Democratic confer.
ence referred to, but Mr.. Gray retorted
that he would not be led into the i'm
propriety OF disclosing what took place
there.
Mr.. Gray continuing said that the
New York senator had no authority to
lecture and instruct the senate, at which
point Mr.. Hill interrupted him to say he
had not sndeavored to instruct the Dom.
ocratic senators, nor to reflect upon any
member Of the senate, but he added.
that if in pursuing what he conceived
to be proper course in the senate, he
had reflected upon any one, he could
not help it. and he supposed it was be-
cause of such reflection the Democratic
senator WAS squirming now.
Mr.. Pugh sought to ask q question,
but Mr.. Hill declined to hear it, where
upon Mf. Pugh remarked that he had
hoped to end the controversy by such q
question.
"You might open It," Mr.. Hill re-
marked, and he took his seat.
Mr.. Gray resumed his speech. He
said he would not attempt to gsin brief
applause by declaring what his individ-
usl views were. 1t was we'll known that
his views were es extreme AS those held
by the EXTREMIST of tariff reiormers.
ALDRIcH PRoPoUNDs oUEEY.
Here Mr.. Aldrich was recognized to
put question. He said Mr.. Gray had
called attention 20 the fact that the SEN
ate tariff bill was 6n abandonment Of
Democratic principles, and he wanted
to ask the senator whether he did not
think the Presidents letter justified that
view.
Mr.. Gray replied that the president
had shown himself abundantly able to
vindicate himself. He said the presi-
dent had the confidence of the American
people and had never betrayed it.
Mr.. Aldrich-But the attitude of the
president is that any duty, however
small, is an attitude OF perfidy and dis.
honor.
Replying to this thrust, Mr.. Gray d.
clared that Aldrich was simply joining
with Mr.. Hill in his attempt to create
diacord.
''He is," said Mr.. Gray, ':simply do
ing his utmost to help along the dance.
and he and the senator from New
York can simply waltz down the aisle
together"
Villas OFFERS SUBSTITUTE.
At the conclusion of Mr.. Gray's speech
Mr.. Villas took the floor and offered as O