New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-05-24

Q.-Were you not rated? Ayes; have been
rated as worth from 100000 to 100000 for num-
On what agency? A-Dun. Barlow & Co.
Mr.. Nicoll-Its now r. G. Dun q Co.
The witness-Yes; r. q. Dun q Co.
by Dun & Co. until 1871? Al think not. have
been rated for ten years. .
Dun & Co ra,el you at 100000 in 1884? Al don't
Don't you know that in 1888 you were rated |
at from Sisoo to s2%cS IN Bradstrees 500 on your
such statement th q0R was quoted a, from
$4,000 to 100000 for several years Some time ago
did not correct their estimate. They asked me for
another statement later. but refused to give IT
l heard nothing more Of it.
TESTIMONY FROM "BRADsTREETs
At this point Mr. McClave was asked to surrender
the stand for the time to John H. Bird the law
yer. whose examination was thus breeziy begun;
@. O3y Mr.. Goff)-What is your profession? A
Am I obliged to incrimnate myself? Oaughter)
Q.-Not II you don't wish to- Al am a lawyer.
Q.-.TIow long have you been in that character?
Al have played that character Tor th1rty-nVe
Q.-With success? Al think so.
sir. and have been for twenty-five years
Q.-Can you tell us the rating of John McClave?
Mr.. Bird consulted some papers which he had
Q-What was it for 1888?
Mr.. Ncol dnterrupting)-What is thisE $780,.
Mir. Brd-These are the records OF the Bradstreet
Company respecting the commercial standing OF
The clerks in the Office.
Q.-And you know nothing about them? A
Of the soS9 ss y, dGs not q 20 S St
Q.-Who are the clerks who collect the informa-
Senator Iexow-Why not let it go in for what 1t
Mr. NicoIi-No sir This Is a legal tribunal. AMI
1t ought not to receive any evidence that Is not
Mr. Bird have here copy of Mr. McClave's
own statement , .,o. 49,. .,,ts
c. (3y Mir GoffC-WAat did MIR. McClave say he
| was worth in 1883? Ale gave his net worth as
CT what did Bradstreers rate him. Al Al
on his claim. We say. He regards himself worth
$4,000 on nominal basis his Is correct buy o on
! 900 for his property. He has not lived down -
/ But don't want to read this private part
MUST GET THE ORIGINALS.
Mr. Nicoll-I object to this hearsay evidence.
Senator Iexow-The objection is sustained
O. O}y Mr. Gon)-IIave you any other statements
by Mr.. McCIave? Ayes; one Of May p lS'''
Mr. Nicoll-I object Why not get the originals?
Senator Lexow-Yes; that's so. .
or Mp N'f iRe stewart eS G Buiilns ,' ~
Mir Brd-Cant show them 70 your cheh' ana
ie Mr. MN Ni SS you ought to get the ORIGINALS
Its only short distance. Yours is wealthy ell
BIRD am to qq I'd for PAX he orig
insi docnments Mr. Gof lookcl over his papers for
some dine ana it seemed that there would be
! recess until Mr. Rlrd could return. But Ny. Nc
Clave was asked to take the stand in the interim
| Mr Gon asked: =, so, ,h.. cot,
were coin;elied 20 fail in 1873 with liabilities u
ssScoo ANo sir never made sueh sIeSg"y IN
| business with you did? A-No; because that j.
not true
HIS CoMMIssIoNERsrIIP HELP.
O-Never mind the cause. Did you on December
T. ISIS. make statement to Dun 60. that your
DIT Commissioner aided IN your
! success in business? A.-No sir.
! o. read from a statement: HIS position as 70
lice Commissioner has 10 considerable extent aiuel
| in mis- success" Did you make any such statement
A 0.Nfs +, fac, that your position aided you In
bq5iness A%2 s ISL \ a di You STATE whou,
giving any hsutes. , ne st9 HXo. dld not say
SOME ACTING pY MR.. NIco1i-
NJ pirl returned at this moment. AMI Mr.. Nc
Clave again lcc; the stand Ny Moo" MAJ '
h,r, win something else. and ne seemed to nav"
an idea tina; some person other than Mr' 1--WE
had been testlfyinG and had escaped. WE" w.
80 ,ta woman on the stage who "unidints an
asks Where am -" Mr. Nlcoll ask"i
where is the witness? Has he been fp'T'''i
away" .....,.o, 20 him while Mr Bril-
WIZ had again aiken tac "lt-e+s cnair was ASH
'y Tb S.i" 4, you ho:l IN your han4' u 2a
tht statcmen, nal by Nj Me- i1yes SON. 'i n1in
q 1883 stating M NJ, y1Ca,, daicl De,-rno,l
l. 'GI' xor faoEing a, the papers Have YOU
son namcd wood Mccoy.? .,,.., som US
Mr. McClayc answered IA Ai5 cllg.I bis Gn,
spnet,,re 20 he letter Of D.cc'nh'r T. ~ az
his to TIE saeeni OF Nay omit NIX no de-
tailed ngure.. The asscis r1,nIon'b ~ To-
!r3resTWi!e es, 81 i55 wes' seventy
GO. n1-et 80 e. - er:aar-aNc. Hr'il ~ o..
lots. 10, q -h9cTy mr. Tt 25l5e Of the as
Al Dcr and ntiCc fN'NliHT iI' 49,
sets exclusive Il lAb.it"f vs. p" ,S, his @s:a,,
C, yor,S ,s3i6, cxcluaiyc OF pad-u2 NE n.l
ance and other mat'erE. when al Ills N'"'
Increase he 'o:al by SDg"
r HIS PERSONAL ACCOUNTS
~. >.,cou had no oueati,ns to ask. Mr. Bir|
reti-oJ in f,vor Of Mr. McCl0vr. The wines -
pa.ned that his checks on his peri,nh i''o' "
, Tho Bowery Bank were marked "per'ona' "ce'"".
The business checks werc not markel '' "'
| Co0 asked exhibiting bank BOOK;
o-Th;s book marxel personal account o'o'"
: on January . 1873 Have you any earlier p''AS
That DO * represents all % the account,
'c-iiow often do you dra" your salary -
oe d whit much Is II? A $40 s. n ~ IT,,
! ~ a. 1' havr r,,lainod before. my son som, ine
ran short in the business acco1n Vow wan GT MS
it in bDslness In few days, ne "G1 st n aga
chcck for the amount. ana "ou'' "'i''''' - "e''
t. my il an entry on May H. $780, Of 'ia
That was ,gnr p hcre is one Of 5000 What wa
thf. for? Al suppose had drawn mat LOT III
on June % you have deposit Of $lvn W ma
US aaiG s q A lb5se IS aeGoaniS e w M ,
Nj Nj ners,nal account shows aggregate I'gIs'uS y
~ 40, a. ION y.ars above what received TOT H''h
% r,r.riv can't remember the details "i edc
check No busnesg man could
!? TIE WITNESS PROTESTS
y Mr. McClave grow excited here. His voice wa
~ husky with emotion he SAID vehementy VI
u nc has beon taken UP here from my cradle III
,,,,. a.. "a ave been gone into my butchers Dill
= nv erocer's bills and every yang 1t ISN'T iaT
J. senator Lexow dnterruptng committee IA
D" & duty to perform. Mr McClave. .,-
The wItness-Yes. but don't think ulh' I'M"