St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-03-14
the government had to choose between
a bill to repeal the coercion act and an

hard and fast line regarding the date
when home rule will be introduced.
We frankly admit that in the case OF
bills of such constitutional magnitude
we are bound to prosecute them with
all dispatch which the circumstances
allow. having regard for the time of the
session. 1t is premature to expect the
government to give cut and dried
statement as to whether the home rule
bill Will be rentroduced, amended or
not amended, or whether dissolution
will first be brought about without
another home rule bill being passed.
The government, however, is composed
of men of honor, who will never finch
from, or cease to adhere to, the home
rule policy which Mr.. Gladstone pressed
upon u.s."
john Ii. Redmond. the Parnellite
leader, said that he sympathized with
Mr.. Morley's humiliating position in
explaining Lord Rosebery's utterances.
and added that he must express dissat-
isfaction at the recent declarations of
the ministers. His friends recognized
that general election was necessary
before the home rule bill could be
passed, end were afraid that a disSolu-
ton would be indefinitely postponed,
and that home rule would be quietly
shelved. The leadership of the home
rule policy, according to Mr.. Redmond,
had passed from Mr.. Gladstone to men
in whom they Qhe Parnellites) had no
strong faith, and whose declarations
were halting and ambiguous. Contin.
uing, Mr.. Redmond said that it was
clear from Lord Rosebery's statement
and from Sir William Harcourt's state
ment that the home rule bill would not
be reintroduced in this parliament, and
that % dissolution would not occur until
the whole Newcastle programme had
been sent up to the house Of lords.
WHAT TIE PARNELIITES
asked, continued Mr.. Redmond, was
that The government should declare its
intentions, as its present position was
absolutely intoierahle. 1t was not
merely that home rule had been shelved
and dissolution Indefinitely postponed,
but they were told that they would not
get home rule until majority Of the
English members were in Its favor
Lord Rosebery's speech, he said, entirely
changed the aspect of home rule. If
Lord Rosebery's argument was right,
then the house of lords was justi-
fed in rejecting home rule, and
al! the late talk and agitation
against the house of lords must
be insincere. The spirit of Lord Rose
bery's declaration was insulting and
humiliating TO Ireland. Lord Rosebery
had referred TO home rule as local self
government of local affairs, but what
freshmen meant by home rule was
Irish government consistent with the
supremacy of parliament. If the gov
prpr,,apt thnnvhf If pnn1b clt,,lya hntpn
rule for three years and proceed with
English bills they were living in afool's
paradise, for as soon as lrlShmen real
lied this intention there would be q
spirit arise i'll Ireland which would
make government of Ireland by Eng
land impossible; and for his part, the
sooner that day comes the better.
Joseph Chamberlain followed Mr..
Redmond. He said he believed that it
was impossible that Lord Rosebery ac-
cepted the leadership of his party III
order TO betray it.
THE Liberal UNIONISTS
were face to face with their old policy,
and would prevent great issue being
obscured when the country was .ap-
pealed to. Mr.. Labouchere said his
contention that the premier ought to be
a member of the house of commons was
justified by the fact that they for the
last two hours had been discussing
Lord Rosebery's remarks. He agreed
with Mr.. Redmond; that if home rule
depended upon all English majority,
why had they stumped the country in
denuuciation of the house of lords?
Mr.. Labouchere moved an amendment
abolishing the power enjoyed by per-
sons not elected to parliament to pre-
vent bills from being submitted to her
| majesty, and he expressed the hope
that, il necessary. her majesty, with the
| advice of the ministers, would use her
power TO secure the passage of this
:nuch-needed reform. He suggested
that this object could early be achieved
by creating 800 new peers who would
vote for the extinction of the house of
lords.
Sir William Harcourt said he agreed
with Mr.. Gladstone that the present
state of things could not continue. He,
however, could not understand the proc
ess by which Mr.. Labouchere reckoned
to achieve his object.
Mr.. LaOOuchere interpoSed with the
remark that he had list of 500 stall
warts VINO were pledged to vote for the
abolition of the house of lords if they
were sent there.
SIR WILLIAM HARCOURT
said the method was impracticaDle. 1t
must DE leIt 10 the government TO nnu
means to put an end to the intolerable
| situation.
The division on Mr.. Labouchere's
| amendment was then taken. and the
| cheering which followed the announce
| ment of the result lasted fully minute.
| Some of the members acted in the most
| frantic manner. The waving of hand
| kerchiefS and hats continued until the
| deputy speaker left the chair for short
| interval.
The result of the division on Mr.. La
bouchere's amendment partook of the
| nature of surprise. not only to the
| government, but to many others who
| had voted III favor of the amendment.
| Several of the latter avowed this even
| ing that their object in supporting the
| amendment was merely to give good
| division against the house of lords.
| They declare that they had no Idea that
| there was any prospect of the amend
ment being carried. 1t was in fact
| jump in the daLk. and a bringing up at
Il place at which they did not expect to
arrive. The action that will be taken
| by the government in view of the defeat
| inflicted upon 1t by its whilom support
ers is matter of conjecture. The pros
| pect OF the resignation of the cabinet
was general topic in the Hobbies of the
house of commons this evening. 1t is
| expected that the cabinet will meet TO-
morrow TO discuss the matter.
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