The Washington times., 1894-08-31
THEY WERE ALL FOR ORDER
American Railway Union Men Did Not
Counsel Violence.
THEY ALWAYS WERE AGAINST 1T
nent Questions for Submission to the Cen
sral Managers-strike Commission Ad-
journs to Meet in This City Next Month.

CHICAGO, Aug so-w F Guion. a reporter, was
witness before the strike commission to-day.
He went over the incidents of the strike at Blue
Island, Burnside, Fordham, and Pullman. He
saw the cars burning at Burnside He found
only three railroad men in the nearest crowd,
which was three blocks away. The railroad men
were trying to disperse the crowd One Of
these men said the instructions from the Amer
away all persons who might be inclined 70 dam
age property, and II they would no: go, 20 cause
their arrest Debs and Howard afterWard asked
witness II he could help the order and cause the
arrest OF the men engaged in violence, but he
told them he was not detective.
Nice-Presfdent Howard, Of the A. r. T., was
again called TO the stand. Mr. Howard denied
that he had advised violence, and declared that
he had always counseled moderation and de-
nounced lawlessness. His only remarks Of ''in-
cendiary" nature, he said, was the advice he
had giv' n the men to use coupling pins on A p.
A representatives, or any other similar class OF
people who might endeavOr 10 stir UP trouble in
the union on a basis OF differences in religion.
He denounced the A. p A, and explained how
endeavered TO foment dissensions in labor or
ganizations on account OF religion
SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE MASAGERs
Mr.. Howard then suggested that the foIloHin &
questions should be put to the general mana
gers, one of whom he supposed would take the
stand this afternoon.
''Did the strikers at any time interfere 20 pre-
vent you carrying mails II Pullman cars were
not attached to the same train?
Gould you not AZ ali times have transported
the mails without interruption If you had not
insisted upon attaching Pullman cars 70 the
same train2"
WAS your contract with the government TO
transport mails any less binding upon yOu than
your contract with the Pullman Company, or
was one contract in any sense made dependent
Ibid your company have q contract with the
government to transport the mailsP
Was your contract dependent upon your
ability TO transport Pullman carssn
Ibid your contract with the Pullman company
provide that you should not carry the mails l.
less you took Pullman cars on the same train27
Commissioner Herman did not know that the
commission would have opportunity 10 put the
questions, but they were allowed 70 go on rec
ord
A. r. Z. HUNTED DOWN LAvBBEAKERs.
Howard also described the investigation Of
PIIlman's reported statement that the general
managers had threatened 10 boycott him II he
consented 10 arbitrate with the American Rail-
way Union. he further said the 4. r L. would
show by the testimony of Mayor Hopkins, who
was expected 70 take the stand this afternoon,
that the A, r L. had been more active than the
general managers IN securing arrest Of persons
engaged in violence
Secretary KeIiher, Of the A r T. and Mayor
Hopkins testified at the afternoon session.
Mayor Hopkins testified regarding the atti-
tude Of the police during the strike. He de-
clared that they had done their duty at all
times He acknowledged that be was in sym
pathy with the striking employees Of the Pull
man company The mayor said:
July i3, Mr.. Debs and Mr. Howard and Mr.
Keliher, of the a. r. T., called and presented a
communication 70 the railway managers, asking
me to take IL over 10 them They asked that all
the men be taken back as individuals excepting
those who had committed violence in the strike.
When I got there. the board had
adjourned and handed IL 10 Mr. st John lie
informed me that they did not desire to re-
ceive any communications from that source, but
would receive Ii in view of the fact that the
mayor of Chicago brought il there. / want 70
say this in regard 10 Mr. Egan- The papers quote
him as saying that if he were mayor he would
not allow himself toibe made a messenger boy
for these men ] want TO say most emphatically
that Mr.. Egan never said that 90 me, and ! do
not think would have allowed him 10 say IL
I'VE have a contract between the city OF Chi
cngo and q man named Brennock for removing
dead animals His place Of rendering them is
in Indiana somewhere. He called at my Office
one day and stated that there was
a train of dead animals down in the
and he could not get them out l sent
my secretary over to the headquarters OF the A
r L, and they se5.t q crew down TO pull them
out, but when they went to report to the or
cials of the railroad they put them on the train
loaded with meat, and they pulled that out .
distance, found they were deceived, and aband-
oned the train. y
After the hearing the commission adjourned 20
meet in Washington on September 20