The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1894-07-28

Washington, July 27.-The Senate, at
| 8 o'clock this afternoon, after week
| of senatorial speeches, agreed to the
further conferences on the tariff bill
| asked by the House of Representatives.
The test of strength, today, came on
! Mr.. Washburns motion that the Senate
recede from that portion of the sugar
amendment placing differential OF
lone-eighth of a, cent on sugars above
No. 16 Dutch standard. After an hour
and a half of debate on the pending
points, the president pro tenn, Mr.. Har-
ris, who was in the chair, in the alb
sence of Vice-President Stevenson, sus-
tanned the point of order and ruled
the motion out.
The decision was Immediately APP
pealed from and a motion made to lay
! the latter motion on the table. Both
motions resulted in a tie VOTE Mr.. Hill
and the Populists acting with the Re-
publicans in an effort to get direct
vote of the Senate on Mr.. Washburn's
motion.
All the Democrats, save Mr.. Hill and
Mr. Irby, who were paired in favor Of
striking out the one-eighth, stood by
| the caucus agreement and voted
against the motion. The Republicans
also presented a solid front.
Mr.. Quay, who voted for the one
eighth when the bill was in the Senate,
joined his colleagues in the hope of
method. The three Populists acted
throughout with the Republicans.
| The chair reappointed the conferees,
| Messrs. Voorhees,, Jones, Vest, Harris,
Sherman, Allison and Aldrich. and the
Senate, after transacting little rou-
tine business adjourned till Monday.
washington. July 27.-The indica-
tions when the Senate met at noon to-
day were that the struggle over the
resolution to agree to a further con-
ference on the tariff bill, asked by the
House. would be ended before adjourn
ment.
In the morning hosgs some debate oc-
Cured over the clauseaof the confer
/ ence report on the army appropriation
bill. transferring the Apache Indians,
! held prisoners of war in Alabama, to
the military reservations in the west.
| Mr.. Dubois protested against the
tsending of those Indians to Oklaho-
ma.
| Mr.. Blackburn's open charge that the
! are trying 10 ueldy
on the appropriation bill incensed Du-
bois and Henderson,, who accused
Blackburn of bad faith in receding
from the amendments he offered.
| Dubois and blackburn
"You had no right to recede," said
Dubois.
81 had the right replied the Ken
lucky senator, holly, "and the sena-
tors attempt to define my rights on
this floor is piece of impertinence
which 1 resent"
mo more than I resent yours" re-
torted Dubois.
The conference report was agreed to,
! 3S to 49, Then, at LOS, Jones called up
the tariff conference report The pend
| ing question was the decision of the
chair on the point of order raised by
Gray and Mills against Washburns
motion to instruct the Senate confer
ees to recede from the eighth cent
differential on sugar above Is Dutch
standard.
Mr.. Henderson argued against the
point of order, maintaining with vigor
that it was competent for the Senate
to instruct it's conferees
Mr.. Henderson described at length
the methods of conference between
the two houses in parliament and Con-
gress, drawing a distinction between
"a simple conference and full and
free" conference.
In the House. he declared, it had new
er been disputed that the House could
instruct its conferees. Certainly it
could not be contended that the Senate
had no power nor control over it's con-
lferees. How could any committee of
the Senate be superior and above the
Senate which created it? There was
more involved in this than a simple
Iquestion. In it were involved the rights
of the Sugar trust, which was so elo-
lquently detained against by Mr.. Villas
1t was said, inside and outside OF this
chamber, that the trust was so power
full that it could defeat any bill that did
mot give it what it wanted He appre-
thended that this was true, for no mat
ter how close the Senate came to strik-
ling at the differential a vote was al
ways Forthcoming at the last moment
to save it. The ruling in this point of
lorder would determine whether the Sen
ate should have the right to pass upon
this odious differendal, the striking out
lof which meant the defeat Of the whole
bill
Mr.. Henderson then reviewed the pre-
tcedents bearing on the point of order,
letting numerous cases in the House
where the conferees had been instructed.
He also gave precedents in the parlia-
Mr.. Plat, Republican of Connecti-
lcuD, followed in opposition to the point
iof order.
Harris Gives His Ruling.
Mr.. Harris then gave his rulings.
! After having recited the course of the
bill in conference, he said all confer
fences on a disagreeing vote are intend
ed to be full and free for the sole purpose
of compromising and adjusting Difficult
ties. An instruction from either House
Iimpairs fullness and freeness. He held,
however, that he need not decide the
broad question. The motion of the SEN
ator from Minnesota was to instruct its
lconferees to amend an amendment. The
Ipower of each house is absolute md
complete over the whole question, what
ever the conference may do. The re-
port must be acted on by either house
before it has force. The occupant of the
chair believes the Senate cannot direct
| ly amend an amendment that has gone
TO conference, and that it cannot do so
Indirectly. The point of order of Mr..
Gray, he concluded, was therefore sus-
tanned.
Mr. Washburn appealed from the de-
cision of the chair, and Mr. Fulkner
moved to lay the appeal ON the table
| The yeas and nays were demanded.
The announcement of the result
yeas 80, nays 32-caused a sensation.
as 1t meant a failure of the motion to
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