The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-05-30
SENATOR GRAY's REPORT.
Questions That Edwards and Schrfv-
err Refused to Ansxyer.

er iteIuseQ I'D AnS"ers
The report, after reciting the resolution by
which the committee is authorized to sit,
states that E. ]. Edwards, whose "Hol-
land letter was one of the melting causes
of this investigation, had refused to reply
to questions by the committee. The chair
man read to him the portion of his letter
in which he stated that Secretary Carlisle
had secretly visited the Democratic MEM
bers Of the finance committee and had de-
manded that the sugar interest be taken
care of because the Democratic party was
under obligations to that interest. When
the part of this paragraph was reached
In which Mr.. Edwards had said that what
Mr.. Carlisle had. said was quoted from
remembrance" Senator Gray, chairman
Of the committee, said: ''You say from re-
membrance. Is it yoursT'
Edwards replied: Partly mine and partly
my informant's.''
The Chairman-You mean to say that you
heard Mr.. Carlisle?
Mr.. Edwards-No-
The Chairman-You say what he said is
quoted from remembrance? tsezs-
Mr.. Edwards-My remembrance of what
my informant said.
The Chairman-Who was your informant?
Mr.. Edwards-That 1 suppose shall de-
cline to answer. / do II with the utmost
respect to the committee and the Senate
obligations of the highest confidence by the
one who entailed that obligation, so that /
do not feel at liberty to reveal his name.
After the above-detailed proceedings were
had the witness requested time In which
TO consult counsel, which request was
granted. The following day. the 18th of
May, Edwards reappeared before the COM
mittee. accompanied by his counsel, when
the committee, through its chairman, pro
pounded TO the witness the question: Nov,
Mr.. Edwards when you left the room on
yesterday 1t was for the purpose of consult
ing your counsel and making up your mind
a h06 1fea1
would answer the question that was pro
pounded to you by the committee, which
question was, Who gave you the infor-
ment that the Secretary of the Treasury
Mr.. Carlisle, made q secret visit to the
ttee some sme n Rf fne nans apS S
there made certain appeal to them The
question is now repeated" Whereupon the
TO answering the questions, which have
heretofore been given to the public The
several objections were overruled.
CARLISLE AND CLEVELAND.
The report then gives in detail the vari-
Gus questions asked Mr.. Edwards and which
he declined to answer. They included the
question about Mr.. Carlisle; also. regard
ing the informant to the meeting of Sem
ators in Washington hotel with repre-
sentatives of the Sugar Trust: also the
statement that the sugar schedule was in
the hands of Moore & Schley, brokers, be-
fore being reported in the Senate and also
as to the statement that the Sunday be-
fore the tariff bill was reported there had
been delegation of Sugar Trust people
present at the Capitol, who dictated the
schedule. To each of these questions Ed
wards said the same person gave him the
information, and declined to give his name
An interesting portion of Mr.. Edwardss
testimony, which is not quoted specifically
~ no da iE in ruFxl
OF his letter referring to the Presi-
dents alleged interest in the Hawaiian ques-
tton because or the sugar interests. Refer
ring to this matter, Mr. Edwards said that
in September of last year he met a gen
tleman who spoke TO me about an article
had written concerning an operation upon
Mr. Clevland's jaw for cancer or malignant
growth which operation had taken place
some weeks before upon Mr. Benedicts
important that is, there Is some
thing much more important to this coun-
brewing. l asked him If IL was something
which he could give He said not then,
because ne was under confidence not to
tion that an attempt had been made to
restore the Queen of Hawaii, and it had
news which he had and could not give. Ny
recollection Is that he either told me il
was either Mr.. Benedicts yacht, at his
sion OF some kind Mr.. Havemyer Mr. Ben
edict. Cleveland and some others were pres
about the Hawaiian Islands sugar interest,
and / think he said Mr.. Havemyer, at all
events 1t was said by some one. that there
would be sensation in the country before
Congress met
The Chairman-Who said 1t.
Mr. Edwards-Either Mr. Havemyer. Mr..
Benedict or some in the party be-
cause it would be then found that there
was peace in Hawaii and the Queen would
be restored This gentleman Col.
III. W. X. Hoyt of Greenwich. He had
been Speaker OF the Connecticut Legisla-
ture.
Mr. Edwards said he had not talked with
Colonel Hoyt since he had written his let-
ter and that the Colonel is now dead Mr.
Edwards said Colonel Hoyt did not tell
him where he got the information, but his
impression was that he had gotten IL fr IN
members OF the party. Mr.. Edwards ad-
mitted that some of the conclusions were
his own and were conjectural
Mr.. Edwards stated that il was a mat
ter of common report that Stephen b. Ell
kins was interested in the Sugar Trust,
and that he and Senator German, being
related by marriage. had very great bust
ness interests in common; also. that IL was
common report that Senator Brice was
closely related TO II. L. Terrell OF the
Sugar Trust. Mr.. Edwards could not recol-
lect from whom he had received the infor-
nation that 100000 had been contributed
70 the campaign fund by persons connect