The Roanoke times. [volume] (Roanoke, Va.) 1890-1895, 1894-07-24
this side of the chamber had been mis-

that the bill as completed was satisfac-
tory to not single solitary human
being in all its details. But as a whole.
! the structure, as scanned by the Score.
tary OF the Treasury and the President,
as looked at by US, was acceptable as
tho best bill that could be passed.
There was no suggestion anywhere,
either from the President or the Secre-
tary OF the Treasury, that the bill as
modified WAS a violation Of Democratic
principles.
With dramatic emphasis German
called upon Vest. Jones and Voorhees, to
bear testimony as to whether his state.
ments had varied hairs breadth from
the truth. "Let the people have the
truth" said he, as he paused.
Talked With Carlisle.
Vest then arose. He began by saving
that he had not himself seen the Presi.
dent since the repeal Of the Sherman
law last summer. But with the Secre-
tary OF the Treasury he had had fire.
Quent consultations. Carlisle had re.
peatedly and distinctly stated to him
that the greatest possible calamity that
could happen would BIO the failure OF
any bill He had distinctly stated to
him that no difference in rates should be
allowed to stand In the way Of the con-
summation of some scheme Of tariff re.
form.
His colleague, Jones, had seen both
Carlisle and Cleveland and they had
both declared that the bill was accept
able to them. The bill did not suit him
(Vcst). He knew it must have the sup
port OF the administration to pass it
and he asked Jones if the President
would throw the weight of his influence
in favor OF 1t. Jones replied that the
President had said TO him:
II am willing to do anything to pass
the bill through Congress-"
What Cleveland Told Jones.
When Vest sat down MIR. Jones, of
Arkansas, who was in charge Of the
bill, took the floor. He WAS as pale as
death but showed no signs Of nervous
ness. He realized, he said, when the
bill came to the Senate that it could
not be passed in its form and he had
| gone to work, he said, with infinite labor
and painG, to interview every Demo-
ocratic Senator.
He ascertaiped every objection they
| He had talked with Mr.. Carlisle about
his plan and the President had in.
dorsed it as wise. Then he (Jones)
| prepared the amendments in consul ia
tion with Carlisle. The Secretary was
thoroughly informed as to the situa-
tion and he (Jones) had said to him:
~ will not go one step further II the
administration is not behind me-"
81 requested him to explain every
thing to the President" said Senator
Jones. "I also saw the President. He
told me Carlisle had explained all and
he (Cleveland) said he thought we were
doing the wise and proper thing. Among
tho amendments thus prepared were
those placing coal and iron on the
dutiable list. Until read Cleveland &
letter to Mr.. Wilson," said Jones
phatically, 81 believed he cordially
approved OF our action. ] had ex-
pressed to him the opinion that 1t must
either BIO this modified bill or none at
all and he had replied that in the alter
native he favored the modified measure. !"
As Senator Jones sat down, German
arose to resume, but Villas interposed
with series OF questions to Jones:
I'm your interviews with the Pfesi-
dent" asked Villas, "were the subjects
OF coal and iron ever meutioned?"
YES" replied Jones, with explosive
vehemence, "at every conversation be-
tween the President and myself coal
and iron were specifically mentioned"
There was burst Of applause from
the galleries which the presiding officer
had difficulty in checking.
And" continued Jones, with meas
ured emphasis on each word, "the Presi-
dent mover once uttered ono solitary
word against going ahead with coal and
iron in the bill as in tho Senate bill"
| Zone more question" asked Villas.
Ibid not the President express the hope
| at all times that iron and coal should be
on the free list?"
SAT all times, yes" said Jones; "but
it was tho expression of hope, and the
circumstance would not permit it's
| realization"
German next summoned Senator
Harris as witness, who stated that in
conversations with Cleveland no (uar.
ris) had been led to conclude that the
President favored the passage OF the
| compromise Senate bill, not because he
approved, but because it was the best
that could be secured
Gorman's Sensational Romarks
German here resumed with one OF the
most sensational references of tho day
to President Cleveland The Senator
said 1t was with deep regret that he was
com PEELED to ask the public testimony
OF these Senators but tho time had come
to speak. The limit of endurance had
been reached. The Senate had been
tradited. An attempt had been made to
"try and gibbet it before the country"
These charges had been "foully made
from such distinguished sources" that
they must be met and refuted.
The charges were echoed by men who
"chirped when he talked" These SEN
ators who had been summoned had
fought for tariff reform whom towards
in high places would not show their
haad