Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1894-06-18
THE SUGAR TRUST
Senator Camden Before the Investi-
eating Committee Today.
bow THE SCHEDULE WAS CHANGED
Interviews With Messrs. SearIes
and Havemeyer.
MR.. GORMAN'S EVIDEN

Senator Camden, democrat of West Vir-
giria was the first witness before the su-
gar trust investigating committee today.
He answered in the negative the formal
Questions concerning the ownership and
speculation in stocks and then made a for
mai written statement of his part in bring
ing about the interview between Senator
JcEes and Mr.. Havemeyer. He explained
that he and Senator Jones had been on i1-
innate terms for ten years, and il had been
no unusual thing for them to confer on
matters of Importance in the Senate
Notifications Necessary.
After the report Of the Senate finance
committee had been made to the Senate.
carrying with 1t its amendments to the
Wilson bill. 1t became evident" he said,
that some notifications and compromise
would be necessary, in oroer to pass a
tariff bill through the Senate In any reason
able time. One Of the chief difficulties was
the adjustment of the sugar schedule, and
in general conversation with Senator
Jenes, / urged first, that the democrats
must pass a tariff bill, and second that
speedy action In the passage of the bill was
OF far more Importance to the business in
terests of the country and to the demo-
cratic party than shades of difference as to
items making up the schedules. And l told
him that in my judgment, such conces-
sions ought to be made within reasonable
limits would unite the democrats in the
Senate in support Of bill, in view of the
fact that it was extremely desirable that
at least forty-three democratic votes should
be cast fo- whatever bill should be PASSED.
THE general situation was fully talked
over from time to time and Senator Jones
expressed himself favorably to that view of
the situation and the duty of the commit
tee and the Senate. provided it could be
done the general lines Of democratic
Al Jones
stated to me that my business and personal
relations in the Senate could be Of service
to the committee and asked me II 1 would
help him and other members of the COM
mittee in ascertaining and arriving at the
real points Of difference to be adjusted.
which l readily consented to do"
Scnrles and Havemeyer.
Mr.. Camden referred to the meeting of
Mr.. Scarles in a committee room with Sen
ator Jones. The latter said. after Mr..
Searles left. that he Uones) was not salts
fled with the explanation and suggested
that it would be good thing for some one
high in authority on sugar matters to pre-
sent the facts they relied upon. that he
(Jones) might Judge for himself. Senator
Camden continued: Il replied that had
no doubt 1t could be brought about. after
ward repeated the conversation to Senator
Brice or to some other person; but my pres
ent recollection is It was Senator Brice At
any rate. through means Of which / have
Il.
came to Washington and + was advised
that Mr.. Havemeysr wset - ~ tkxltne ton,
Hotel and desired to Appear befoNtS Mr..
Jones or the subcommittee and I so in
formed Senator Jones ana asked him where
he would prefer Mr. Havemeye- should see
him.
He replied that II agreeable he would
Teet Mr. Havemeyer at my rooms. oppo-
site the Arlington Hotel. at 10 O'Clock the
reXt morning. l then informed Mr.. Ter
rell, with whom 1 had been personally ac-
oLainted for long time, that If Mr.. Have
meyer would call Al my rooms at 10 o'clock
the next morning he could see Senator
Jones. Mr.. Havemeyer did call with Mr..
Terrell at about that time the next morn
ing, and within a minute or two Senator
Jones came in"
Particulars of the Interview.
Mr.. Camden then detailed the particulars
of the interview as already given in the
testimony of Senator Jones and H. O.
Havemeyer. He said to his best recollec-
ton he had never seen Mr.. Havemeyer be-
fore this visit of his to Washington on this
occasion, and his conversation with him on
sugar on this visit was confined to few
casual remarks. He said he had had sew
erdl talks with the Louisiana Senator's and
had urged upon them the necessity of MAX
ing some amicable arrangement and of
n aking sacrifices for the purpose of secur-
ing, II possible, the passage of demo-
cratic tariff bill. He said he had conferred
with the representatives of other interests,
and he regarded his efforts to bring about
harmony on the sugar schedule as q part
| Of the representative duty Of a Senator,
who Is presumed to legislats in the inter
ests Of the whole country.
Senator Cameron of Pennsylvania was
the next witness before the committee
senator GOrman's Evidence.
Senator German was before the COM
mittee for about an hour. and was ques-
| toned about the various conferences over
the sugar schedule. In which he had been
represented as participating. He admitted
freely that he had participated in these
conferences, and said all his efforts had
been directed toward redeeming the demo-
cratic pledges to reduce taxation without
destroying any Industries. He stated that
the meeting between Mr.. Jones and Mr..
Searles Of the sugar trust had taken place
In his committee room at the Capitol and
had been held for the purpose of bringing
about an understanding between the con-
fiicting interests on the sugar duty. Mr..
German was asked the usual questions
about speculation in sugar stocks and
ownership Of them, but he said he had
neither held any Of the stock or specula ted
in 1t in any way, nor aided others in doing
so by giving out Information concerning
probable sugar legislation.
Another witness of the day was Mr.. E.
c. Rowland. Washington correspondent of
the New York Press, who corroborated
Senator Ransom's story of his interview
with the Senator and his son concerning
the report that the Senator had been a
purchaser of sugar stock.
MIR. CamerOn's Denial.
Senator Camerons testimony was con.
fined to a statement that he had not specu-
lated in or owned any sugar stock during
the pendency of the present tariff bill, and
that no member of his family. nor any one
employed by him. had speculated in the
stock to his knowledge.
Senator Washburn was before the COM
mittee during the day, and also entered a
general denial.
Senators Irby and Walsh also answered
all the categorical questions Of the COM
mittee in the negative.
Coming Home.
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