The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1894-06-13

o. Havemeyer, president Of the American
Sugar Refining company otherwise known
as the sugar trust, was excused by the
Ienate investigating committee, at l:l5
yesterday afternoon, be had been with the
committee about five hours, and was
asked to appear again today. The inquiry
was begun by asking Mr. Hsvemeyer
about the published statement that he
bad, either on Mr.. E. c. Benedict's yacht
or at Greenwich, Conn, been In consulta-
ton with Mr.. Cleveland and Mr. Bene-
dict In 1899. after Mr.. Cleveland's nomina.
tion for the presidency, about the sugar
interests as affected by the Hawaiian
treaty. To this Mr.. Havemeyer said there
was mot one word Of truth" He also
declared that no such consultation hat
ever occurred at any time or place
With reference TO the reported confer
ence at the Arlington hotel in this city he
said Some time In March was In Mr..
Terrell's room at the Arlington hotel
when Mr. Brice Mr. Smith and Mr. Reed
were present. There was nothing at that
interview said about the obligations Of
the Democratic party to the sugar trust,
there existing no obligation between
| them, and there was no mention of any.
] have no recollection Of any reference TO
any obligation on the part OF Smith, Brice
or any one present"
He then told how be had been sent for
| by Mr.. Terrell to come TO his (Terrell'sl
| room and explain the sugar question to
| Senator Brice. He said that Senator Smith
came in after his explanation OF the sugar
| question had been concluded, and was
very positive that there was no further
conversation on the subject OF sugar after
Senator Smith came In Nor was there
! any reference to the Indebtedness OF the
| Democratic party TO the sugar trust by
him to Senator Smith or any other sens-
| tor. Neither had he told Mr.. Smith that
the bill should be beaten II sugar did not
get fair treatment He also denied the
story of Sunday meeting at the Capitol
with Senator Gallery and others, and said
that he had never been at the Capitol on
| Sunday. l.IH .t. ..-.
He said he had come to Washington
early in March. after the tariff bill had
passed the house with the hope Of getting
. bearing before the finance committee,
and had gone to Senator Vests to ask him
II II would not be possible to secure
hearing by the committee. Mr. Vest had
said no, but had agreed to allow him to
explain the sugar question to him (Vestl
| individually, and he had done so, meeting
Vest twice. a.t.5 b -.-.
Mr. Havemeyer then explained his in
terview with Senator Jones at Senator
Camden's rooms, and with Senator CAT
ferry at Senator Brice's house, He had
talked with Jones about three-quRrters OF
an hour about the different systems OF
| lsvying duty and about the cost OF rein-
ing sugar in this and other countries, He
said that be had been invited to Senator
Brice's house by the senator TO meet Sena-
tor Caffery, and when he met him, merely
i went over the argument for an ad valorem
duty.
Mr. Havemeysr said he had two inter
views at the Normsndie hotel with Sena-
tor Hill, At the first interview he had ex-
planned the refining business to him, and
had told him what be thought ought 10
| be done At the second interview he ex.
planned TO him the discrimination In 1t,
and wanted him to take some active inter.
est to have 1t remedied Mr.. Havemeyet
sald he had also made two visits to Sena-
tor German, who had seemed to take an
interest in the question Mr. German had
been surprised at the apparent dlscriml.
nation, and had said he thought the classi-
fcatiou ought to be free from that. He
had also called on Senator Smith at the
Normandie and pointed out this discriml-
nation, and the senator had promised TO
look into the matter and do what he could
10 remedy the inequality OF the schedule
az first reported
Explaining his visit to Secretary Carlisle
Mr. Havemeyer said 81 called upon him
at his house before the senate finance
committee reported the biz 70 ascertain
what his views were about the admins
tratiop Of an ad valorem duty on sugar.
whether he thought II could be efficiently
and honestly administered His reply was
that he thought 1t could ] likewise asked
him II he did not agree with me that the
ad valorem was the proper one upon
which to assess the duty on raw sugar. II
there was to be duty He said he did,
provided the duty was 20 be moderate
one"
Mr.. Havemsyer admitted that the prin-
cipal object OF the organization wss that
OF controlling the price and output Of
sugar in this country. aud that the com.
pany had succeeded In doing this,
Senator Allen asked whether the trust
had not endeavored to control the legisla.
ton of congress with view Of protecting
its interests, aud with view OF making
money out OF such legislation as might
be enacted here, to which Mr.. Havemeyer
replied Undoubtedly. that is what
have been down here for"
Mr. Havemeyer made some rather start
ling statements toward the close OF his
testimony He was asked about the con.
tTibutions of the sugar trust to the cam
paign funds Of political parties, and said
that the records OF the trust showed that
contributions were made, but that they
were made to the state committees, not
to the national committees He was asked
~ the contributions of the trust were
given TO both parties in the same state
and replied, 'Oh, no"
How do you arrange itP' he was asked.
'"Well. New York is Democratic state
We give TO the Democrats there, and tC
the Republicans in Massachusetts,. W.
never give to the minority
Did you contribute to the anti-snap
persY asked Senator Lodge.
oh, no. am quite sore on that point
Nothing to the ant-snappers
This feature was considered about tbs
most interesting Of Mr. Havemeyer's tes
timony He could not give the committed