The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1894-03-03
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WORKING only under lnStrucuons 10 Snkofco
| the laws as they found them. The unex.
pended balance Of appropriation that was
expected 10 remain at the ciose OF The
! present fiscal year would not bo caused.
| Mr.. O'Neil said. by the suspension oc
pensions. for most OF the suspensions have
been revoked. and the pensioners have
| been paid the fun amount due them.
Mr. Grout Vt) criticised Pension COM
| missioner Lochren and the pension policy
| OF the administration. He referred at
| length 90 the order taking away from the
local examining boards the rover 70 Tx
| the rate OF disability. and said that the
| soldier was far safer with them, even
though they were composed in Some ~
stances Of X-Confederates. than % be
left TO the tender mercies Of the Pension
Bureau with the duty assigned It of
evading for "A large treasury deficiency.
Mr.. Meredith on Pension Frauds
Mr.. Meredith Oem.. NaD. said that
he came from State that paid five times
as much as the Green Mountain State.
from which the last speaker came. FOR
pensions, but which got no benefit there
from
Mr. Johnson C2ep., Ind): That's be-
cause you were on the wrong side. wasn't
il?
1
20 remind the gentleman that the Differ
ence between a pafrio; and a rebe, Ia
that success makes one and def-ar the
| other.
Mr. Livingston Dem. Cal: Tha, was
the case ga 20. ANYHOW.
Continuing. Mr.. Meredith said. he Ard
the people he represented believed thaf
the pension roll should be a roll of nonor.
and not contain the names % persons
who are not entitled TO pension. OF
which class there are hundreds arf
thousands on the roll to-day
Mr.. Grout asked for proof and Mr. Mere
dith stated that he could give It. ana
that no gentleman had the courage ~
deny 1t when he stated upon MS respon-
sihility as a representative that from his
own knowledge and observation he knew
II 10 De true that hundreds and thous-
ands of fraudulent pensioners We're on
the roll.
Mr Hopkins (Rep.. I'D asked II II was
not the action OF the gentlemans State
and others south OF him thar caused tho
existence OF that pension roll.
Mr. Meredith. No. sir: Il was due TO
the gentleman who forced that issue
upon ls when we wanted peace. We have
no complaint against the men who are
entitled TO a place on the pension 'ist.
Immediately after the war and kept IL
up. thar we complain
Numerous Interruptions were made in
the course Of Mr Merediths remarks. by
Republicans. 10 question him as 20 the
actions Of the Democrats upon pension
nights in refusing to proceed with the
business Of the House in The absence ~
a quorum. IN violation of ;he practice
Tor many years which he answered bv
charging that " the Republicans would
attend these Friday night sessions there
would De- a quorum. "a he Cons tuition
requires. for the transaction OF business.
Nj. Meredith stated that his Intention
had been simply 20 deuounce and rsfufe
the sentiments expressed on The othr sd.
that the Democratic party occuDlai
the position Of nullilers OF the pension
law and he characterized the statement
as untrue and known to be- so. lie world
not extend his remarks he said. hatins
been requested by his friends TO refrain
so that nothing might be- SAID thar would
tend 10 irritate his political opponents
AS ne was about 20 take his seat, an.
Baker (Rep., n. I'D requested him 20.
make known the proof OF his statement
tnat Che pension roll contained hundreds
OF iiaudulent names. Then 20 this he r.
Piled that r. certain pensi0ner in his per-
sonal knowledge was strong and healthy.
and that be- believed he Che pensionerl
had foresWOrn himself IN order 10 gain
the benefit OF the law This case was in
his opinion. the type oe many others
Mr.. Baker remarked that the gentleman
had given no proof % the country nor
10 the House of his statement. nothing
but assertions
Mr.. Funk Rep.. Ili) suggested that TX
the gentleman from Virginia believed
what he said 10 be- true. and Ola not de-.
nounce the pensioper 10 the proper author
tiles, he was not a good citizen
Mr. Meredith shows Fight
The tenor Of this remark was evidently
misunderstood by Mr.. Meredith 10 be- "A
reflection upon his yCracitv, for. with
arms uplfted and q menacing look. he
left the plain where he had been speaking
and approached the desk ofthe gentleman
from Illinois, In the centre almost OF the
Republican seats. "lf the gentleman
means TO insinuate." he shouted, that 1
am not telling the truth"
The Republican members crowded
around the two principal participants ia
the scene and Mr.. Payne CKep., \. y
stood between them
Mr.. Funk responded as nearly as could
be made out In the hubbub and confusion
II did not say that the gentleman was
telling an uutruth, but that II II were
true, he was not a good citizen n he id
not present the case 10 the authorities.
and" shaking his hst In Mr. Merediths
face. and who still had his arm uplif'ed.
II stand by that here and elsewhere"
The uproar was now at It's height. ana
the shouting of the gentlemen could not
be understood at the desk, but In mo-
ment Speaker Crisp seized the gayel and
called upon the Sergeant-at-Arms 10 re-
store order Colonel Snow ran into tho
midst Of the crowd, commanding mem-
bers 10 take their seats. Mr.. Meredith
withdrew 10 his own side. and stood, de-
manding recognition OF the chair. until
ordered by the Speaker 10 take his seat
When order was restored he was per-
mitted TO proceed.
He said he was not excited. and that
nothing that be had recently witnessed
oyer there Indicating by a motion OF his
head 20 the Republican side) was caicu-
lated 10 excite him. There was n way.
however IN which he could be excited
but he opined that no gentleman on the
other side Of the House would take that
way upon the floor OF the House. and he.
therefore, would dismiss the recent in,a-
dent lie desired 10 say. IN response 20
the gentleman from Illinois. that he. was
not required 20 act az a SPY or informcr.
and that he would refuse 10 act In that
capacity.
On motion OF Mr. O'Neil. the committee
rose at the conclusion OF Mr.. Meredith's
and, at s;35 o'clock, the House
took recess until o'clock, the night
session to be for the consideration or pri-
vate pension bills only.
No Quorum for Pension Bills.
The attendance upon the session Of the