The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1894-10-30
commission decided, however, that ~
tendance could nos be eonpeised-

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ing his own case and appealed 70 the CON-
MISSION TO be al!owed 10 have an attorney.
Mayor Phelps said he shoEght Mr.. Collins
moderated his own ability. kirkwood
had no desire 20 have the order Already es-
fabiished changed. Certainly Mr.. Collins
was capable Of examining his own W.T.
uesses
Cheassy admitted that the morning
session had been devoid Of results and the
afternoon session would be. unless Collins
had an attorney. He moved 10 allow Cob
Inns legal representative
Rogers arose and said that II it would
facilitate matters. he would allow Collins
to have ~ many counsels IS be wanted. II
the commission so desired. IL don't want
counsel myself" he concluded.
At this point Wiley sprang to his feet
and declared that Of ali ousrages on justice
the way his client, Collins, vas being
treated was the worst he ever saw. he
had stood IL as long a. he could and now
announced his intention 10 conduct Col
lius' case. commission or no commission
He called Frank Pearl, whoscame forward
and took the witness chair.
Kirkwood said he would like TO know
what Mr.. Wiley meant by his attitude. He,
for one, would not be builied and could
not be forced to 60 on with the case unless
he saw fit.
'Mr Wiley" said the mayor. you can
not 90 on with this case. l have the power
TO prohibit you from interfering and shall
certainly do So"
WILEY RoARs IN RAsk
Wiley then paved the air and said Col
Inns was not capable of conducting his
case. Collins had been treated unfairly
and the investigation was q farce. THE
eyes of the community are upon you"
yelled Wiley.
1--WE are willing to take the response
biIity." said Kirkwood.
Wiley stamped the floor and, with
clenched hands, said he would no. DO re-
moved and kept from trying the case I'M
less force was used. The crowd cheered
and the mayor raped tor order. Intense
excitement prevailed. Mayor Phelps in
formed Mr.. Wiley that he believed he had
the power to protect the commission from
insult. and If il was necessary would call
an officer TO remove him. Mr.. Wiley then
Gained down q little and said that such an
intricate case was too much for man like
Collins TO handle properly to get at the
truth in the matter. The proceedings
were quasi judicial, and he had perfect
right TO take part.
kirkwood asked Wiley If he really
thought Collins was not able 10 conduct
his case as we'll as Rogers.
Wiley replied that Rogers had had large
experiences in questioning criminals,
which experience Collins had not had.
Mayor Phelps appealed to Corporation
Counsel Scott for an opinion as to his
power TO remove Wiley
scoTr ouIETs THE STORM.
Mr.. Scott said that while he favored
allowing Collins an attorney. he did not
believe in allowing the commission to be
buildozed. II It's proceedings were inter-
rupted it could adjourn to some other
place. He thought that, as Collins con-
fessed his inability TO conduct his case,
Wiley ought to be allowed 10 lake part.
II don't want TO be compelled to answer
as to the commissions right to eject
Wiley" he said. ale has lost his temper
1t is true, bur that is not for iavesriga-
tion."
Matters were cooling down little. and
Relfe move. 10 allow Collins an attorney,
and Cheasty seconded the motion.
Mayor Phelps then said the investiga-
ton was not trial, but if the commission
desired to rescind its order il could do Ii,
but he for one would not consent.
Wallingford said: 81 for one do not pro-
pose TO be bulldozed by Mr.. Wiley, even if
he is big man."
On the roll call Relies motion was lost.
The mayor administered the oath to WIT
ness Pearl, and Wiley commenced ques-
tioning him.
"You need not answer Mr.. Wiiey's
questions" said the mayor. do you
want to question him. Mr.. Collinsf 2"
Collins said he would not ask for q
counsel if he thought himself capable of
conducting his own case. 1t looked a. If
trouble was coming, but Corporation
Counsel Scott said: 'I.will conduct this
case myself from now on" Wiley sat
down. and the storm was over.
Pearl testified that he was bookkeeper
and had lived in Seattle four and half
years. He had examined the records of
the police court from April 10, 1891, to
! March, fS92. and found that $3.50 was coll
| lected during that time in fines for prosti-
tuition and gambling. and that $3.50 was
| collected from October IA. 1880, to April 10.
isaL
WHERE THE GAMES RAN.
George Sheehan, aged a. years, said he
! Was q member of the police force part of
| the time from April 10. 1891. to Marsh %,
! iss2 He was dropped in the latter part of
| Chief Rogers administration by the COM
missioners for characterization. at WASN'T
| proved" added Sheehan, and continued:
There was gambling in the Horseshoe,
Butler. Considine's place and the Never
Tonched-Ns. was not on the force " hen
visited the gambling places"
do you remember of Rogers causing
| the arrest of prostitutes or gamblers
| Sheehan said he thought the court
records would answer the question.
On concentration Sheehan said he
was jailer " hen Rogers took Office. He
remembered that the sheriff made some
| arrests, but did not know what was done
| with the cases.
]. A. Costello, city editor Of the
| TsgegrapA, testified that he lived In Seattle
| part of The time from April 10. ls9l. 10
| March .. is92 He remembered that the
| peleho. Beede's, Horseshoe and NJ. & \.
| gambling houses we're running, and he
| thought there was one over the People's
! theater. He saw Way around tue Horse
shoe. Deleho and Decides. and thought he
! occupied the propristeF's chair. There
was no trouble IN securing entrance lie
/ did not know thai Rogers knew ANYTHING
/ about the matter. and never talked with
/ him Aboat Il. He had seen dancing ia
/ Clancy G Manro's place and AZ the SANE
/ time IN tae New Zealand. lie could not
/ tell dates.
John Considine vas recalled, and ts.,i-
fed that gambling VAS conducted openly
when Rogers was chief. and that he saw