The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-07-21
Exciting COIIOquies.

Mr.. Gray moved that the Senate insist
upon it's amendments and consent to fur
Their conference Mr.. Hills motion, however
will, under the rules, take precedence
There was nothing. said Mr.. Gray, in
speaking TO his motion, that had occurred
TO make an unusual action upon the part of
the Senate necessary He did not think it
was necessary to retreat on account OF the
determined attitude of the House or threats
from any quarter. He commended the wis
dom which oVercame the diftlculties which
stood in the way of passing the bill.
At this point very hot personal contro-
versy developed between Senator's Gray and
Hill. Mr.. Gray said that during the time
the Democratic Senator's were endeavorng
TO agree upon a tariff bill that would com
mand forty-three Democratic votes, the
Senator from New York never raised his
voice in favor of the doctrine of free raw
materials which he now advocated.
Mr. Hilton every occasion, when the
subject OF coal and iron ore was up / adj
vocated that there be no duty levied upon
them.
Mr. Gray-There are thirty Senator's with
in the sound of my voice that know what L
say is absolutely correct.
Mr.. Hill-Will the Senator from Delaware
name time when | failed 70 go on record
for the position which l now occupy?
Mr.. Gray-I did not say the Senator went
on record; nor do l refer to what occurred
in the Senate.
Mr.. Gray-The Senator we'll knows to
what l refer.
M m.
Mr.. Gray-Does not the Senator from New
York know of the long conference which
occupied the Democratic Senators over this
bill?
Mr. HILL reeollect it well. and will never
forget it,
Democratic Senators never heard the voice
of the Senator from New York raised in
behalf of free -oal and iron ore:
Mr. Hill-The Senator knows that / spoke
at length upon the income tax. / did not
go into details of the bill. Coal and iron
ore were not discussed by other Senators.
Mr. Gray-rhe Senator from New York
has arraigned his fellows in the Senate for
not supporting his amendments l decline
TO take instructions from him.
Mr. Hill-Does the Senator mean to say
that l have endeavored to instruct him?
GRAY GAZED INTO HILLS EYES.
This was said with such deliberate dis
tinctness. and Mr.. Hill had advanced from
the back row to within so short a distance
| of Mr.. Gray, that there was anticipated
very close and bitter war of words. Mr..
Gray gazed into the eyes of the Senator
from New York for a second and said: 81
| do not want any personal controversy with
| the Senator from New York The Demo-
Gratis of the Senate know, and know, that
the Senator from New York has taken ev
| cry occasion to tell the Democratic Sen
| ators what they should do and how they
should proceed in the matter of dealing with
this bill"
Mr. Hill asked Mr. Gray to say what he
| ferred TO. but MIR. Gray retorted that he
| would not be led into the improperly of
disclosing what took place there.
| Mr.. Gray, continuing. said that the New
| York Senator had no authority TO lecture
| and instruct the Senate. at which poirt Mr.
| Hill interrupted him to say that he had
not endeavored to instruct the Delaware
| Senator nor to reflect upon any member of
| the Senate but he added. that if i'm pur-
| suing what he conceived to be a proper
| course in the Senate he had reflected upon
any one, he could not help it, and he sup
4 a6 hot hna Of rah rafa ion
| that the Delaware Senator was squirming
| now.
| Mr.. Pugh sought to ask a question. but
| Mr.. Hill declined to hear il at the time.
| at which Mr.. Pugh remarked that he had
| hoped TO end the controversy by such a
| Might open it," Mr.. Hill remarked he
| Mr.. Gray resumed his speech He said
| he would not attempt to gain brief ap-
| plause by declaring what his individual
| views were. 1t was we'll known that his
| views were as extreme as those held by
! the EXTREMIST of tariff reformers.
Here Mr.. Aldrich was recognized to put
| a question. He said Mr.. Gray had called
| attention TO the fact that the Senate tariff
| bill abandonment of Democratic
principles. and he wanted TO ask the Sena-
| tor whether he did not think the Presi-
| dents letter justified that view.
Mr. Gray replied that the President had
| shown himself abundantly able TO vindi-
| cate himself He said the President had
! the confidence of the American people and
had never betrayed it. AS for himself. he
was as much in favor of free coal and free
| iron ore as the President and he thought
he had announced such advocacy before
| the President had.
| MIR Aldrich-But the attitude of the
| President is that any duty: however small.
is an act OF perfidy and dishonor
| Replying 10 this thrust, Mr. Gray de-
| clared that Mr.. Aldrich was simply joining
| with Mr.. Hill i'm his attempt TO create dis
| cord. He is" said Mr. Gray. simply do
! ing his utmost to help along the dance. and
| he and the Senator from New FORK can
simply waltz down the aisle together"
|