The evening world., 1894-05-22


McCIave Gets Angry Again.
Let me tell you Mr.: Gof." he broke
sioner has had the slightest in
fluenc' In getting me business. What
have got have obtained because l
We'll; did you ever sell Mr.. Grim;
yon were a Sommissi9ner?"..
solutely. MIR. Crimmins has been on
my books a good many years"
Among the corporations which he sup
%tional, Cunard and White Star lines.
To some of these he sold as much as
S25i 600 worth OF lumber a year.
Mr.. McClaye said 1t was not until
years that he began to get corporation
trade But my position as Police Com
missioner had nothing to do with 1t. I
Have you any other voluntary state
ments to make?" inquired the lawyer.
mo. SIR" snapped Mr.. McClave.
His Household Expenses.
Mr.; Con- tried to ind out how much
Mr.. McC.ave paid his grocer and butcher,
but he said he didn't know.
household Expense eSpenses. !o0 he SAID 0Hi IF believe theye
hood"
,o1Yonr family hasn't increased materially
N'"N' Wv u ' DHUlINhlOnpTs A.-NO, SIT. Inc
last OF my fourteen children was born sixteen years
ago.
take care Off % / never had more than half
a dozen. And let me say right here that members
OF my family have everything that | think neces-
Q-You keep four carriage horses. don't your
A.-No. sir; only two.
MIR. McClave afterwards said he kept
tina, he had an old team of carriage
horses which he kept up Mt his country
place.
$50 you have Ave horses. after all! A.-But
tho old ones don't count. Besides l have thirty
horses In my business.
Never Kept n Yacht.
o-R' you keep a Yacht A.-No. sir. but
boys several years ago for the Summer:
o..Didn't You 'ngage Inspector wililams's
Q-But he sent 1t down to Manhanset for your
family to user A.-One Of my boys took a sail
w n! nor s a rev II S wSs onI Iha \ ca sb be ,s,. cost II
Inspector Williams a few hundred dollars. and the
newspapers are full OF steam !achts and so forth.
This brought up the case Of the trial
of Capt. Williams several years ago.
Mr.. McClave said he had voted with
Commissioner French for acquittal of
Williams on these occasions when he
was on trial on serious charges.
Mr.. Con read part OF an opinion by
COMMISSIONS Porter, in which the man.
agement Of Capt. Wil,iams's precinct was
SlIOISlN 'OIlltIlItu. N vote Ii lWO
for conviction and two for acquittal.
II would vote the same way again,
and every time said Mr.. McClave.
o.-That ease was never %'ecided. was 1t! A.
l don't think II was. 1t was simply dropped.
Mr.. Goff then came down to the Mar
tens and Price trials, and Commissions
McClave said he had c]oncurred in the
decision Of the Board that Capt; Price
should be fined FIVE days pay and Capt.
He denied that he had heard any
Commissioner say that he would vote
not guilty or guilty In n event, and
cision was The result OF a compromise
between Commissioners who held con-
ficting. views as to the guilt OF the
accused officials.
Says MncLenn Was Treated Fairly.
81 have seen It claimed in the news.
papers that Commissioner MacLean, has
be The tr Soara. nn saia Me 9y nis a @f Maei
to deny this. as l have denied It else
where.
-! rave never at any time seen un;
any more than towards other Commits
sioners.'
He explained thai the reason why he
had usually voted with his Tammany
colleagues was that he did not care to be
an obstructionist. and the questions that
usually came up had no political bearing
whatever.
~ recess was taken at 1 o CLOCK.
At the opening OF the afternoon SEES
regard to the whereab outs of Granger
and the Sergeant-at-Arms having failet
to find him, Commissioner McClave wal
recalled to the witness stand.
Mr.. Nicoll started to make a state
ment to the effect that he had proofs o.
twenty forgeries against Granger. wheI
the Committee must protect Its wit
nesses.
} The remarks of Mr.. Nlcoll. he said
were a species OF intimidation and no
to be allowed.
Every witness that comes before thi
Committee" said Chairman LeXow
!, takes HIS reputation. II not almost hi
life, in his hands. and we must protec
him"
MIR. Con- then asked Mr.. McClave |
OF OF t naa Session aSs sn'o Yesterday 80 TdaSst that It he sae w s,ui
have him arrested and sent to stat
prison.
"oh, no.: I never said that"
Mr.. Goff repeated the question, AM
Mr.. McClave finally admitted that h.
might have used language to that eff
feet.
: Charges Granger with Forgery.
+ Q-You charged him with forgery yesterday
I GLOW long have you had the evidence c
tnese forgerles In your possession A.-Some q
= them several years and some only a few week,
They have been in the hands OF my counsel
PARSONS, Snephru. a Ruen, most q u " time
I Q-You said you discovered Granger was
forger thirty days rfter his marriage! A.-Ies
that was the Judd note.
!. Q.-You have kept this six years. Ayes;
. expected to reform him.
What other forged papers have you7 A.
/. A lot u checks.
I o.-when did Granger leave your huose7 A.
Feb. 90 last.
q. Asd you have allowed this forger to liv
In your house six years? A. Yes.
Q. And never threatened to put him In Sta
prison III last night a. Not that | remember
q. You this forger for a positio
in the Post-Ohice and other places and mad
; him Secretary OF your Yankee White Paper Con
e pany. A. Yes, | thought he had reformed.
,ound out too late that he had not, He hi
| been guilty OF every crime In the catalogue.
q. Didn't you know as much as you do no
| when you recommended him to Postmaster Va
e Cott7 A. | suppose ! did.
Mr.. McClave testified that he bega
s living at Greenwich, Conn, In the Sun
e mer OF 1890. He denied that he me
Dominick and Dickerman there or ths
he went into stock speculations at tha
time. or fr%eauented the Club House
there.
MIR. Con showed the witness a copy c
the certificate Of incorporation OF III
Yankee White Paper Company, f.e
March II. 1891. In which Gideon Grange
y appeared as one OF the incorporators, tc
geiher with the Commissions and tw