The evening world., 1894-09-12

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stern said he did not remember that
uanley had ever pawned more than one
watch at his shop, but would examine
his indcX-book and ascertain.
Henry Kramer was then called. He
said he was a collector for George RinE-
Ter x CO.. the brewers. of Ninety-sixth
street and Third avenue.
Traffic In saloon Iicenses.
"Dld you over make an applicat for
saloon license In the name OF Karl
Werner or Gustave WasnerY'
NO, sir, but ramG INTO possessl2IGn,, t 81
street and Avenue - ] applied, for the
license in my own name. ! had an In
terest in the place as an agent OF the
brewery"
THAT IL a common custom among
brewers to have agents for this pur-
| pose?"
They go to the, Excise Board and
looms in various parts of the city,"
| VERY often, yes
The witness explained that the license
was in his own name, and as soon as
the manager OF the place paid over 70
the brewery certain amount the IL
cense wes transferred to him. The
business In this Instance was to be
conducted by Washer.
1t was simply a method pursued by
| brewers of investing their money. The
license was held as security.
| Did Washer ever have any trouble
with the police?' inquired Mr.. Goff
| Yes, about four weeks ago. His place
was closed. because Washer got out a
card in which he held himself out as
the proprietor OF tne place went to the
captain and told him the place did not
belong to Washer and he showed me
| this card"
what Captain was IT."
| capt. Cross"
you would like TO see any captain In
| New York close place of yours. so
long as you were doing legitimate
businessY'
NO, sir, | simply told him that the
business was not owned by Washer.
Didn't you tell Washer that he ought
not to fight the police"
mo, sir.
"Didnt you say you couldn't AFFORD to
fight the police on account OF your other
places in the precinct?'' =,
| mo. 81, / simply shut up the place.
But didn't you know you had right
to run your place even though Washer
claimed to he owner" asked Senator
Yes; but the Captain told me as long
as Washer was there he would have to
close the place. He wouldn't believe
why dId you close them"
81 didn't want to have any trouble
Wow we have 1t at last. That will
do" said Mr.. Goff.
Carl werners New story.
Karl Werner was then called He, said
he had taken the name OF GustaVe was
ner In order to conduct his business;
paid money to the police for protection.
house, inquired Mr.. Con-.
Mr.. Con then stated that in a recently
published Interview with Mr.. Wellmah
there had been "A very serious inis-state,
ment OF facts. This was to the effect
| Werner
the Committee that he was paying pro
lection to the police he was actuaily II
state prison. He had called the wit
ness to correct this mistake and to SCI
Mr. Wellman and others right.
The specification, based on Werner
alleged testimony In the case or capt
Cross In his trial by the Commissioners
stated that at various times IN Apr
and May. 1892, the Captain or his warc
man had received sums OF money IRON
Werner, while he was keeping a dis,
orderly house in Delaney street II
was claimed by Mr.. Wellman that Wer'
ner was in state prison az thls uine
but MIR Con- read from his testimony
before the Committee to show that HI
Thr charge was therefore untrue, an'
was calculated. II. not contradifi,ed: t,
taken before the Committee.
at would have been better II Mr
Wellman had studied the record NOR,
carefully" observed Chairman LeXow
, before preparing hiS specifications
"Nr, Weliman had "A copy Of all tn,
testimony taken before the COMMITTEE
: Werner said he had not been inter
I viewed or questioned by any official II
the preparation OF the specifications
, against Capt. Cross. He was IN , "a,
? but I'm 1893 that he had paid money 10
$ protection. and the charges In the specin
E cations were all wrong. In lss2 he wa
in prison, and had said So
D 1.-THE dates running all through I'M
specifications against Capt. Cross are
year out of the way" said Mr., Con,
How Werner Was Arrested.
Werner went on to describe this ar
Il ranEement with the Ringler Brewery
and how they kept the license as
mortgage on the place.
= The police did not know him when n
, took the place, ana nobody In the nelgh
horhoui suspected that he had been
0 witness before the LeMow Commlt tee
, ever, he thought. found out and CAV
Q Zen days after | took the, saloon, on
. Sunday evening. Two ware u sohan
had given the bartender special In
n structions not to let any one IN nnles
y he knew him. AS soon as the two me-
=, came In | saw they were detectives
! and 1 said: For Gods sake, what iii
a You LEI those men in for? They ar
= detectives. 49,. .... ,,..l
| 'tOW ulh Nbu hi'" 'h'S WV 'N'>N
tiVes?'
u why. | could tell the minute say
their feet
d Anything peculiar about detectives
feet? =" asked Mr.. Con-, in 4 tone of SUI
prise
They usually wear about No. las an
G have thick sues," replied the witness.
y The result was that both W erner al
his barkeeper We're arrested, ana I
p, had been in prison ever since, NJ
~ being able to get bail. The officers WI
arrested him In court the next day 80
- that Werner had tried to bride the
~ and that made matters worse.
ID 1T was a lie. | didn't offer anythh
II to them
~ Was anything said then about yc
= having been u witness before the l.eNo
le Committee
"Not then. but three days before II
~. arrest my bariJCgpcr told m" he ht
~ been % see capt. Cross, and that Il
Is Captain had told him he knew all abo
a me. that | had been a witness before Il
LeXow Committee, and | had b'
record.
Capt. Cross had sent for me but
had not seen him. l went TO the static
lnCe, but he was Out. From what II
birkeeier told me, ! believe l was a
'ur rested simply because | had testified b
IN, fore the Committee"
de Werner said he was not arrested tn
eli Sunday, but the following day, lie I
be ceived the orter TO go to the station
see Capt. Cross, and two detectives h
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