The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1894-11-04
MRS. HERMANN ANGRY.
SAYS SIZE TOLD THE TRUTH AND rs
NOT AFRAID OF ANYBODY.
sbs Tells as Least Everything She Kasws.
Turns to . Pslics O6osr and hsris
I.yeotives ~ Him.

| her. she said, rather WeH III Coinpai iioon
TO the manner in which she was fieeced
| by others.
| Mrs. Hermann came in a few minutes
| after II o'clock to-day and took the
stand. She was very indignant, and
| whispered to Mr.. Con: Tell the COM
| mittee what you are telling me-
! II want TO say" said she, that every
thing / stated yesterday was true.
| heard that Police Justice Hogan says
| in the morning papers that L lied.
| him, Recorder Smythe, nor anybody else.
| and l have plenty more TO tell. When
| i said got that s1,7OO from the police
| TO go away. / told the truth"
Captain Ryan Is In court, Mrs. Herr
mann. Did he put money in TO make
II don't know"
broke in with:
II am not afraid OF Judge Hogan nor
anybody else. 1 told the truth
you ARE TRIEF AND LoAFrR."
Here the witness looked around the
courtroom and spied Officer Petterman.
Don't look at me like that" she half
shrieked. you are thief and a loafer.
You know you came TO my sister and
got money from her more than thirty
times"
The witness was fairly white with rage
at this point Officer Petterman stood up
in court In full uniform, his eyes dropped
and his face blanched under the storm
"You know, Petterman, am telling the
truth. You know my niece was a good
girl until
Here MIR. Goff interrupted the witness
asked by Mr. Goff IL she recognized any
| of the policemen who met her the night
she left her house.
She again repeated the story OF her
arrest and her being fined 500 by Record
SmVtha for assault and said she had
no correction tosmake in her evidence.
thing you wish 10 tell"
why. Mr. Goff 1t would take me
week TO tell everything / know"
The witness then said there was a
house at present open in Wooster, kept
by a man named Byrnes.
"The man who keeps II Is friend OF
Superintendent Byrnes?
Here the witness started Off again.
RAP AT SENATOR DAILY.
n want to tell you another thing. Mr.
Goff, | was asked by the lawyer in
Jersey City not TO come before the
Lexow commitsee before tho election.
He said that Mr.. Goff would have lost
"Was it senator DAILY who told you
this?"
can he be committed for contempt
of eourt?' asked Chairman LexSw'
4
"He Is in the State OF New JerseyY
Mrs Hermann here said that her
sister was In hiding in Jersey CITY and
that the police knew u well. sne sald
Joe Moss, of the firm OF Howe * Hum
mel, when she was In jail.
II was told 20 keep away i'm Chicago
until the LeNow committee adjourned.
My sister told me she was protected by
the District Attorneys Office and the
police. and that nothing could be done To
her."
She then told how Blumenthal. the pro-
fessional bondsman of the Fifteenth pre-
cinct took "A 500 bill I'm a box OF cigars
to Captain Haughey. She went TO
the station-house with him and waited
outside.
"Biumenthal went into the Captains
room" said she. land when he came
out ne had not the box OF cigars.
when you went away, IL was with
the understanding that you could open
UP again wnen the LeHoW committee ad-
journed?'
"Yes, sir; they told me I could"
WAITING FOR THE STORM To BLOW OVER.
The witness said there were a great
many women who formerly kept disorder
ly houses in New York living at present
in Chicago, waiting until the storm blew
over.
The witness then said she paid money
TO Captain Haughey after sne was raid
ed.
ION one OCCASION. said she, "OfIicer
Zimmerman told me II l did not employ
Judge Stiner, he could sent me TO States
nrison " She also said that when her
SISTER was fined 50 Stiner demanded $50
10 paw the fine with and got It.
Justice Hogan knew your sister,"
ale knew her well, and me, TOO"
Mrs. Herman said each time the girls
were arrested it cost money TO get them
out. The witness then said
Judge Hogan knows perfectly well
that when ] went away a year ago l was
compelled TO pay money TO gst back"
You had a number of letters in your
trunk when you came back lately. Have
you those letters?'
''No, sir. Those letters were STOLEN. and
my trunks were also taken"
She did not retain Senator DAILY in
Jersey City, and she did not know who
retained him. Senator DAILY gave her
$50 while she was In Jail.
Mrs. Hermann was then excused.
oTHER WITNESSES TESTIFY.
Mr.. Delamater. clerk at police head
quarters, was called and asked the names
OF the captains of the Tenderloin pre-
cinct during 1872 and 1893.
He named Captains Mclaughlin and
OConnor.
Mrs. Hermann had testified yesterday
that she was asked for $1,000 In July.
1898, by wardman when she sought TO
open a house in that precinct.
Captain Richard o'Connor." said Mr..
Goff, 'it appears. was in command OF
the Tenderloin from October 1. 1892, to
December 5. 1893, which period mem
toned is mentioned by Mrs. Hermann
he Is the captain who Is at present under
trial"
Richard Kusch, who Is under arrest
for abortion. testified that his case had
been put off about twenty times. He
claims he is not guilty.
Mrs. Kusch. wife Of Richard. stated
that Agnes Berthold. who was the girl
her husband was charged with procuring
the abortion of, was never sick IN her
house, as Agnes had claimed.
Mrs. Moebus, mother OF Richard Kusch.
denied ever going to Or. Whitehead with
Agnes Berthold, as was charged In a
police court.
Or. Milton Whitehead was called. but
recess was taken.
THE JUDICIARY IScRIMINArKD.
After recess DR.. Whitehead was called.
He was a specialist in female diseases.
He had been arrested four times charged
with procuring abortions. but had never
been convicted or tried He was arrested
on February "a, 1894, by Sergeants Frink
and Murphy. on the charge of procuring
said that Lawyer Emanuel Friend was a
friend OF his, and that he ONhiteheaD
should employ him. although he preferred
Howe and Hummel. y
did you send for Frend?"
yes sir, l was compelled 10 send for
him. Mr. Friend called on me at police
headuuarters. We talked the case over,
and he made light OF II at first. Then he
said that for $500 he would see that was
discharyed The a following day Saturday, ssnnr
the Second National Bank. payable 10
Friend & House. 1t was dated February
26 1894"