Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1894-03-14
| ERE'S VICTORY
Defeat Of Rosebery on the Veto of the
Peers.
n Moment Taken when Many of the
House-FGture of the Governments.


House-FGture Of the Government.
AS telegraphed briefly to The Star yester-
day the house of commons by III to 80
adopted MIR. Laboucheres amen lment TO
the address in reply to the Queans sreech
favoring the abolition of the house ct lords
In the preliminary debate Lord i;iu."iph
Churchill said he considered the program
of the ministry an insane one. IL It was
meant to be carried out in a Smgle session
of parliament. 1t was supreme arrogance
on the part of the ministers, ne thought
to ask the house to pass 50 unmaIL-elble
a program in the face of an orpos ton Of
over 800 members, who were prepared to
resent both the abolition of the house of
lords and the creation OF home lie for Ire
land. AS To hJme rule, he declared he could
successfully predict that there was not one
man living today who would live to see The
establishment of an Irish parli Iment nor
was there man living who would 1--we to
see the abolition of the house IF lords.
Mr.. John Morley, chief secretary Tor Ire
land, Insisted that there could be no injury
to Ireland through temporary suspension
of the home rule bill. Ii he hi1 supposed
that the reconstructed ministry would not
be accorded its views on the Irish question:
he would not be a member OF that ministry
MIR. John redmond, Parneliite, said That
never during his experience in parliament
had more difficult or aumllilsin task
fallen upon chief secretary for Ireland
than the present one, which puc him up 20
try by the strength of his own character
as a genuine friend of ireland g re!9CNe
the impression created By the batting and
ambiguous phrases of Lord RJsebery
Whatever Mr.. Morley might say, he de-
clared, Ireland would not trust Lord Bose
berry.
Mr. Joseph Chamberlain said the .ulion-
lists were satisfied with the adhesion OF the
government to their policy, il gave a
definite issue on which TO meet them on all
sides. Everybody, he thought, cagnt to be
satisfied except, perhaps, Mr.. laboaclers,
who was going about like Dioyenes with Lis
lantern booking for an honest friend.
Labouchere's Amendment.
Mr.. Labouchere said that lie was one of
the many who were dissatisfied with the
manner in which the liberal party had been
transferred to its new leaier. What, he
asked. had they been engaged in through
out the evening, except discussing the
words used by Lord Rosebery in the house
of lords? Personally, supremacy SIM
pie person, he gave those words their plain
meaning. Therefore, he concurred with Mr..
Redmond in saying that the position of
home rule had been entirely changed by tine
remarks of Lord Rosebery.
What, he asked, were the facts? Did he
understand that home rule depended dulOn
an English majority in its favor? If that
We're the fact why had the time OF the last
session been wasted over bill chat did net
yet have British majority? " ny, he i'll
quired, should the house Of lords be con-
suited on the question of nome rule? Mr..
Gladstone had declared that home rule was
the absolute right of Ireland Without any
reference to a majority of the United King
dom. For Lord Rosebery to say that home
rule could not be granted until i. hal an
English majority was distinct retco.res-
sion OF party policy.
His constituents had given him a positive
mandate that If there was no declaration
in the queens speech in favor of home rule
or no distinct announcement that the cabi-
net meant to fight against the house Of
lords, he must move an amendment to the
address regarding the lords. and Why should
he hesitate?
There could not possibly be n worse body
of men to perform what were the supposed
duties of the second chamber than the pres
ent lords. He for one, was tired OF pouring
Sound radical liquor into q yat, with a
bung like Lord Salisbury, ready to let u all
out. 1t was said that object lessons like the
lords were required by the country. The
radicals had had enough of these object les
sons and were now ready to go in and fight
to crush the house of lords
The existing state of things was intol-
cradle. He favored the absolute abolition
OF the house of lords, but vas stu ready
10 accept a paralysis Of their veto power.
lie could not for a moment suppose that
the lords themselves would prefer abolition
to being kept like rocks in a rookery simply
to sit and cav and complain.
Mr.. La bouchere then moved an amend
ment to the address that The poweY. now
enjoyed by persons who were not elected to
parliament by the usual process OF fran
chise, yet who able to prevent the PASS
age of bills. shall cease
What Will the Government DO.
Sir William Harcourt, chancellor Of the
exchequer, opposed the amendment in an
impressive speech. taking the ground that
a measure of such grave character ought
to be taken only after the most serious de-
liberation.
When the division was taken 147 men,
bers voted in favor of Mr.. Labouchere's
amendment and lbs against.
There was much excitement in the lobbies
after the announcement of the vote The
division was moved purposeiy during the
dinner hour, when one-half of the members
We're absent.
Mr.. Labouchere was congra tu!ated on his
victory, and was chafingly asked when he
would undertake the formation of a minis
try. The majority of the minist5rialists do
not dsapprove Mr.. Laboucncre5 victory,
but they are perplexed over the govern
mentS defeat. In looking up precedents it
has been found that the only way of get
ting rid Of an amendment IKE Mr.. Labou-
chere's is by having the house vote on the
address 4 whole.
All the Irish members supporter Mr.. La
bouchere.
i. j. BalfOur. conservative leader, inter-
posed to ask the government what it's in
tentions were with respect TO its defeat on
Mr.. Labouchere's motion.
Sir William Harcourt. chancellor of the
eXcheQuer and government iea'i2r, replied
that the government in tended TO proceed
with the current business.
on the division on Mr.. Iaboucneres amend
ment. says that the result Is Jizlihcant Of