New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-05-30

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JAMES o'KErI.Y: YES JUST ME CON
SCIENCE"
and that had not paid money TO ANYBODY: "a ana
not want tho 10 s Pe then told him he would do his
best to send me to prison
CALLED A MONUMENTAL LIAR"
o-Was any mention made OF Mr. simonson'
A-Not AT that time. / told Mr.. Con that Freeman
was a sleuthhound. and had been lying to MN
because he had been lying to me Mr.. Con S'u
was monumental liar thought II was ungente-
manly in him to say that d)eris!ve laughter
Q by Sir Gon,-Do You rcmcmocr my s agms
you last .f h1d hat yg you G9 ne Yes" "O'
kni dId no, I say that yon could be sent to
pro" And was net ina, ne oaly hing n the way
Of threat which saii to you onrh, 70 no sen, 70
prison II YOU commit perjury? Al know that per
YIN begged this morning 70 be KEEP, from the
Wines stands A.-Yes. and YOU said mat was M
% Did YOU tell Arthur Freeman that there would
soon be tWo Republican Po.'cc Commissioners A.
| No / know nothing about IT, $500.
| . Where dld YOU 20 at noon to-day; Al went
. DM you talk with any one on the way A
9 O. d i: Senator oconnor, when yon saw M
con lac, night had YOU made w your nina 20 tesu-
| ~ to what YOU now say IS a He Al ha'
rorNp 10 HAVE HIs SHARE
| % Uy Mr Gonl-why should you want 70 lie?
| WIN should you send a TO lie 10 m"
| Their. were lies all around and hoped would
| have my share
| Tho witness was told 10 stop down. but not To
| low. the courtroom Mr. Coz asked. significantly.
II fhe sergeant-at-orms could take cognizhn'" OF
c,se in which 1; mlyht b. necessary TO give In
| formation t. the Grand Jury. Senator lexow an
| sUerel IN the Affirmative and all eyes were turned
| ,owarl O'Kelly. ~ II Il were expected that ne was
| O., d. placed under arrest lie was not "ol"S'ed
| however. and Mr. Con called The next witness
,oF he GDt-ip
the Prevention OF Crime. who bad been known S 20
| O'Kelv az Arthur Freeman. bennett SAID ne hau
in The employ Of the society sncr s, -, Mr
| con lie had been sent by Mr. Con to see O Kelly
and Try to ma out how %. KEY AIDED me" !" se'
. diEsy Mr ion1 what was ne da's OF your nr'
| Visit To- O'Kelly' A-May Il. about , H.
REVELATIONS ny THE DETECTIVE
. Go on and tell Of your Interviews win
O'<ely? Al made three visits TO him The hrS'
| time I saw him | told him that wanted TO get
| IN m. force and had been sent 10 him by
| friend lie wanted 20 know who my friend was
but told him that had promised not TO betrhy Ms
| name That seemed to satisfy him lie ASKED me
how long I had been In New-York. and said SIX
| months lie said that when went 10 make my
,,nlcat,on I must say that had been IN the city
| a wear said I Understood that | would NEED
some null and he said that he had got men on th'
force who were not able to get good perS era MA
narer containing questions by tho Civil Service
Board. / think they were last year qurTtt,ons,
me II /, wa. ready money said had the none!
i'm stocks and asked him II II would be necessary t'
sell the stocks right away. He said that would no
be n"cessary Al our next interview ne said !
good faith because men who promised 10 pay some
times ala not have the money 20 put up when m
time came for appointment He said ne "ou'd Se
| me "A letter to Commissioner McCiaVe
REFERENCE TO MR. McLAvE BARRED OFT.
Mr. Nlcol objected to the testimony on the groun'
| that hearsay evidence being directed at Mr. Nc
clave Mr. con said that he would not have calie'
bennett II the previous witness had not He'd
| senator O'Connor said that everybody who hear'
| O'kely testify understood that O'kelly had He'd
| and II VAS not necessary 10 bring another wines
TO show that fact senator I-eNow said that Den
| nett might proceed III ne lett out All reie'V"'c
| the Commissioner
MS FRIEND IN THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
The Witness-O Kelly said that new Commits
sioner was 10 be appointed in a few days. ana
would be better for me TO walt until after the ap
| | poIntmeni lie said he had got man on the iorc
some time ago and the policeman wanted to b.
| made roundsman, but was going TO walt until IN
new Commissioner was appointed AZ my ., ei ~
visit to OKelly he gave me a book gnte 20 IN
Srisnd in the civil Service Board who furnished hin
with the examination papers IN advance II i s
ever his friend could have my rating raised 10 pc
| cent II would be necessary Tor me 70 nass nave -, -
| ,be money could be kept in bank until was ap
pointed had written 70 him asking Tor inc nam nan,
4
When | asked him why he had not written, he re
. nsed. "In matters OF this kind we don't writ
much
E WANTED TO DO MISSIONARY WORK
q nv Mr. NlcolD-When you talked 10 Okell
about getting appointed you were lying to him? A.
We'll | did not tell him the truth.
O-When you told him that you had some none
in stocks were you telling the TRUTH Ayes.
have small holdings In several stocks-about ~"
In al | bought the stocks last summer, before
was employed by the society ,,. LILLIAN.
| q What IA your salary? A.-Twenty dollars
| week / first said | would work for SlO a week
GAS not the money consideration That moved III
go much as A desire to do some missionary work
n | q Where did you come from? Al kept a sun
| ner hotel and n general store In Weirs n II
ahou, one hundred miles from Boston.
. | ~ And YOU left the summer hotel ana the stoI
{ ! I'm order to come down here and do missionar
| I w nd YOU thought you were doing the right KIN
y NJ missionary work when you went ana lied
. | oKelly? Al did. yes. -, . -
! Ssnaior I.exow then announced that the con
, | ,nJ,,ee would toke recess until loD a. m o
Friday.
- GRANGER IN MASSACHUSETTS,?
yyatertown. Mass. May "a New-fork deteetN
vas here last night looking for Gideon Granger, WI
o ia wanted In Network as a witness In the invest
/ | gation OF the Police Department Inc netect'
gained little information regnrang tne ini s