St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-08-14

realized in this great fight the fact so
well stated by the great leader of the
tariff reform fight in Great Britain
that when the people have gained
victory at the polls, they must have a
further Stand-up-and-knock fight
with their own representatives. And
we have realized. if nothing else, the
Salutary lesson of the intrenchment of
the protective system in this country
under thirty years Of class legislation,
until the mere matter of tariff schedules
Is matter of insignicance, and the
great Question presents itself, Is this to
be government by self-taXing peo-
pie, or a
Government by Trusts
and monopolies? Applause on the
Democratic side. Ii we have taken out
OF this fight no other lesson than that it
has been to US great, an inspiring and
valuable lesson. If we have not been
able to get all that the mandates of the
people told us 10 get, all that the high
enthusiasm of the people expected US to
get, we have brought this dangerous
fact face to face with American free
the protective system through which the
hosts of American freemen will con-
tinue to march. Applause ON the
Democratic side. l shall not attempt,
as said in the outset, 10 explain the
merits or to dwell upon the dement's of
the 600-odd amendments to this bill
which this house is about, of necessity,
TO concur in. Perhaps l could not do
Justice as yet to the merits of the
amendments.
My attention has necessarily been so
constantly and so steadily directed to
their dement's that 1t would require
some experience to learn what the
merits are. Laughter and applause
But whatever the measure of short
coming OF this bill in its present form
wllat6ver be its demerits in mere Sched-
ules-thiS do know, that it is
Better Than the Mckinley Bill.
Loud applause on the Democratic side.l
This do know, that in part of it, it
does afford some relief to the tax
payers of this country, and does clip the
wings OF the gigantic mOnopolies that
are now expressing them and blocking
legislation, Applause on the Demo-
cratic side. derlsive cries on the Repub-
lican side.l Take even those portions
of the bill over which this contest be-
tween the two houses has been waged;
take iron ore and coal. upon which we
nave confronted, and to a certain extent
unsuccessfulIy confronted, the great
railroad syndicates of the country; yet
we have reduced them both nearly fifty
per cent below the Mckinley bill.
Applause. Take the sugar schedule,
over which the greatest of all the con-
tests between the two houses has been
waged. Vicious as it may be, burden
some to the people as it may be, favor
able to the trust as it may be, it is less
vicious. less favorable to to the trust.
less burdensome to the people than is
the Mckinley law, under which this
trust has grown so great as to over
shadow with Its power the American
people. [Applause.]
"lf for no other reason, then those
who believe that when they cannot take
the full step which they desire, when
they cannot do that which the people
commissioned them to do, they must
Take the Best They Can
and a step as far as they can. may find
some Justification for an unhesitating
choice between the two bills.
81 should like to ask the gentleman"
interrupted Mr.. Hudson Pop, Kan },
whether he has investigated fully so as
to be able to state definitely that this
bill as amended by the senate will fur
nish sufficient revenue to meet the en-
tire expenses of the governments"
THAT'S question" replied Mr.. Will
son, (which no man, perhaps, certainly
not |, can answer in definite language.
But l have no difficulty whatever in
saying that when the schedules of the
Dill with the senate amendm entS get
into normal operation it will produce
sufficient, and more than sufficient rev.
enue. for the support of the govern
ment. should add to the answer that
perhaps in the beginning the bill will
not produce as much revenue as will
result from it later on under its ordinary
working, because 1 am informed,
whether it be true or not don't know,
that
The Sugar Trust
in anticipation of the passing of the
bill, has imported about hundred mill
ions worth. or, it has been said, even in
excess of that quantity of raw sugar."
"Will the passage of this bill. in your
Judgment. save the country from the
further issue of bondS?" continued MIR.
Hudson.
II think l have already covered that
question in my previous answer. 1t
may be in the first few months of the
operation Of the bill, because of this
great accumulation of raw sugar to
which l have Just referred, that the
revenues of the government will not DO
sufficient to meet the expenditures of
the government.
"But it is my belief, in view of the
large amount Of imported goods in
bond, and also in view of the fact that
there will be larger importatinns when
the tariff rates are definitely known and
fixed, that il the necessitv does not exist
today, it will not exist after the passage
of this BILL"
"WIll the gentleman pardon me Just
on that point?" asked Mr.. Dingley
iRep., Maine)- 81 understood him to
say that the sugar trust had already
imported hundred millions worth of
sugar. II so. inasmuch as only S104,-
100000 worth of sugar was imported
last year, will not all the revenue that
we get from sugar under the operation
Of this bill for the first year be miss
ingw
that one hundred millions Of raw sugar
had been imported" replied MIR. Will
son. IL stated that had been informed
| that the sugar trust had imported about
that amount, and ! have even heard it
stated that it was in excess of that
amount. 1t has been put at AS, 900 tons
by gentlemen who pretend to know"
us it not true" asked Mr.. Heard
| (Dem., Mo- that whatever may be this
bonus 70 the sugar trust in view of the
passage of this law, would not the trust
| reap