The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1894-10-09
ITO whom did this money you gave

first 10 claim all you got?"
well, that's what Vail said. The
Captain never asked me for it,"
But the ward man always collected
the money!
Yves, sir"
AfterVail left him. the witness said.
he saw Mr.. West. the superintendent OF
the dock, and told him what Vail had
MIR West told me was right. and
said II he had known that any or the
money he paid mo went TO the Capt2in
he would not have given 1t to me. He
was paying. he said, for my, services
and not for what the others did"
After that began said he was trans
fcrred to Pier ., and from there to the
canal basin in the East River. and after
wards vas shifted around from ron. place ,. to
from the French pier. Capt SchmItt-
berger came to him in an apparently
friendly way and offered him the choicc
OF several piers.
81 told him unless he would put me
back in my old place, he could assign me
anywhere he chose; 1t made no differ
ence to me.
He said he could not do that, 90 moth
ing was ever done about it."
what wac their excuse for removing
your
Cbrcred by the Spectators.
II heard that I was charged with
smuggling, and went to Headquarters to
see about it. But no charge Of that kind
was ever preferred against me. There
was some talk OF making me a rounds
man, but nothing ever came of 1t;
Mr. Goff remarked when he had fin
ished with Policeman Dugan, that it
was refreshing to have member # the
police force on the stand who was evil
IDENTITY telling the whole truth.
When began left the witness stand
and walked down to the door, he, was
greeted with a hearty round of APP
piause from the spectators. which the
Chairman did not seek to rePress. !,
West. the French line dock superin-
tendent. He corroborated Degan's story
in every particular and said that he had
paid him money because he was en-
Titled to it by his services.
When began was taken off he went to
see Schmittberger and had hot inter-
VsD DiG Yt ea ihe f se1hmiitberger say why
Yes, l asked him, and he told me he
was guilty of INSTRUMENTATION. lie also
! said that began was in league with run
ners of the emtgrant boarding houses
and letting them on the dock.
| 81 told him that this was untrue SO
far as my knowledge of began went.
! The Captain got mad. and | was pretty
well stirred up myself, and / never saw
| him again"
, Ibid y9ya pay money to any one after
No. SIR The conditions were differ
ent. Another man was sent to the
dock, but he was no good and OF no ser
|
Mr.. West said he remembered Gan
non. the ward man, who came to him
once ana demanded Degan's money.
~ told him that If he was entitled to
receive It and would give me a receipt
| for it, would give 1t to him. But he
only laughed at me-"
"nid you pay him.
! The witness said he knew nothing
about. the payment of $500 charged to
wharf in the account book OF
But Mr., Forget said you paid out
money" said Mr.. Goff.
II don't remember 1t now" replied Mr..
Did you never hear that the Com
Yes. in a general way. Everybody
has been talking. about it. But tri l kne e,
was about all the companies"
dc you know that before Capt
SSGhmit,bsrssr left the pre s;nn tro he S OF
Office. OF the Company"
II heard such a rumor, but it was no
until year or 80 afterwards | do mo-
know anything In regard to its truth
do you believe II true?" asked Chair
II don't know whether do or not.
never thought muh about It,
Mr. Ryan's Protection.
Mr. West said that the Company hal
had trouble in the past with maj
named Ryan. who blockaded the stree
in front of the entrance to the pier witt
| boxes. The complaints against him date
. way back as far as Mayor Hewitts ad
mlnistTatidn.
"Passengers often complained of tn
obstruction, and the police had beef
asked to do something. but Ryan still
keeps his boxes there"
Mr.. West said that 1t was u dangeruu
place in the night, because tramps uset
the boxes as temporary lodgings.
The boX-pile is known as the Walled
off Flats" said the witness. "A tram
died In one of the boxes some time ago
and his body was not found until tire
weeks afterwards, when its presenc
was betrayed by the odor."
Ex-Alderman w. ii. Schott, who i
now employed as, general passenge
Green was asked about the $500 item, bu
he said he had never seen 1t until hi
attention had been called to It,
Mr.. Forget was in Europe at the tim
the payment was made, but the wit
Ecss and another man were in chars
Of the books. but lie could not tell t
whom the money was paid paid. T., -,
Mr.. Goff that his memory had not bee
refreshed by the tcstiH ony of Policema
Degan or Mr.. West: 1t was, in tn
not tell anything more about the mystic
nc us item of 500, paid to " whomsocve
was entitled to receive it,"
You don't want to remember, d
oh, it makes no difference to me-"
, You made up your mind to forge
! when You came here. didn't you, NJ
: Forget"
Not at all. simply can't remen
ber"
You knew the Committee was goin
. to inquire about this 5000"
9 NO, | had forgotten about it Ell
tirely."
a In answer to the Chairman's questlo
Mr. Forget admitted that he had pal
out the money himself, but he couldn
!, fer the life of him remember to whoi
he had paid It. He could remember a
about the items preceding and followin
' the 500 entry, when questioned by NJ
Goff
d, Won't Deny Paying schmittberGe
n "Win YOU deny under oath that 20
did not pay that money 10 Capt. Schmit
berger
No, l will not deny it. l don't r.
y. Haven't people been to you ar
y eegged you not, - testify against Cap
SchmttDerger?"
After much hesitation the witness a
$ mitted that II was so.
d w As II nan or woman
IS They We're, all men. That is, the
were several"
II Oh, your memory is waking up, is it
d Yes ] remember that"
$ NOW, oidn't certain people say to Y,
that you would ruin Capt. SCimttberg