The times. (Owosso, Mich.) 1882-1897, 1894-12-21
him q scse A-Hc said that se stayed on the

AYES. sir. that Is the way understoodit
what did he say occurred next, ifanything?
Ale said that he did not know what took place
IN there, he said they all went away together, the
three OF them; think he said Mr.. Hammu md
Mr.. Bumps and himself.
time? Ate did not say.
Q-Iow did they get the boys out of the cell?
A-Afterwards Mr.. Bumps let them out.
Q-How did he let them out? Ale did not
ON MI, 9 , by did a. not state how that was done9
Q-Are YOU positive that MT. Cady said that he
locked them up? Ayes, he said that he took
them down and locked them up. Don't remem-
asked them but thtaE that he said that he ask
ed them.
Q--Do you know anything about a book that
Is Kept down there which Is ased by the police
tor a REPRESENTATIVES, sir, there Is one there fer
q do you know anything further about this
gan transact On? A--Nothing only what heard
'Q.N0w you may state whether that beck is
Tor the purpose Of recording prisoners whe are
locked up Ia the cells down there? A-Nes sir,
there is a book on the outside to register these
mems names in.
Q-Were thesewcn registered? A-,No, sir.
=, Q-Was the matter rep rted TO tire Justice OF
the d ace or you ule next morning. A-NO, sir.
OFF IL had not beenf for this letter p0u would
not have kn0wndt? A-No, sir.
Q-By Mr.. PaFker-f any ordinary tramp
comes along and wants "a place To sleep Is their
name pat in there? A-Hardly any.
Oily ii. FresekelDid you have any talk
with the nightwatch about tho locking OF these
two boys up? Ayes, spoke 10 ME-. Hammond
about It,.
Cross-examinstion by Mr.. Bsxaps.
locked them up or not; didn't he say that he put
them In the jail, you simply infer that he locked
them up? Al ddnot say that he told two or
Odd ask you that? Al todd it.
0.What did yoI y In answer TO the question
inst asked 20 didn't he say that he put them
Q-Yon infer from that he locked them Us? A
Il am not positive just what hedh say.
Q-Are you asipOsitiye about that as the rest
you have said? A-AbOutthe same.
Q-You simply remember { @ substance of
what I've said before the ooalmtee? Ale mNde
statements, ISont remember, all that he said.
what he said before the committee? A-Hes ,sir.
QIYou don't attempt to remember all that he
'Q-+How many times lrave yoE heard him make
a statement? Aust once.
Q-Then you think that he made contradictory
Statements Ayes, sir.
Odd you take them down? A-No, sir.
Q-Do yssi remember anything that he said In
Which he c0ntradicted himself? Ale said
that he met you down on the corner, then he SAID
he did not know where it was, he thought 1t was
or the street.
OILS that any more contradictory than the an
sw. r that you made about his locking them up in
jail? Now, Mr. Barrisford, would like TO ask
you one question, what would you do with a
tramp or vagrant who is found upon the street,
surprising that he was fouRd asleep on the street"
.Generaly when they. ASK for a place to sleep
give 1t to them.
trate? A-Not that remember.
Q-Eou simply gave them lodging and let them
out In the morning wltiont taking them out be-
fore the magistrate? AYES, sir.
Odd you ever give a lodging that did not
ask it? A-Not Unless they ask for DIT.
Odd you ever fnd \ tramp around. especial
y In cold weather that would not ask it? A
No. sir.
DIDO you know of any other officer finding
one? A-Not to my knowledge
OFF you found one would you alut him ia
there? A-MOst certainly would
Q-Would you take him before the magistrate
the next day? A-M0, sir
Q-Would you let him go in the Morning? A
Yes, sir.
Q-How long have you known Mr.. Cady? A
Six or seven years, maybe little longer.
Q-Do you know abOut'what portion of that
time you have been friends? Always friends
pretty much, guses.
sQ-When did you cease to be friends? Al
don't know that we ceased to be friends.
,Q-Do you mean t. tell the gentlemen Of the
council that you area friend to Mr.. Cady? A
.O-Do you remember of having a conversation
with me the other day? A-Yes. sr,
0-Do you remem Der that you said that he had
done mean things tome all along, de you remem-
der that? Ayes, sir.
OIL remember that you asked nne some ques-
tions, and told you that would net have any
thing to do with it, theD.yOu says that Cady has
done me dirt and Y a. was going to get even with
him? Ayes, sir, hut did not say that
you ask me to answer and lwrote a cranky an
swer and what was his name? Ayes, sir, | do.
Q-DO you remember that it charged you of
taking a revolver and sending back-2 cheap once
Ayes.
Q-That was not Cady, you did net have it in
for yourself, did yol, Billy; that was a matter OF
IA different thing altogether? Still you haven't,
hard feelings against Cady? Al don't see why:
.Q-Yon feel Just Friendly to him as you ever
Q-Haven't You and him had some controversy
since you was appointed to the high and mighty
posti on OF marshal? A-No, sir.
Q-Havent you had some words! A-NO, sir.
Q-Hayen't yOu been little edgewise? A
No, sir.
Q-Haven't You tried to boss him around? A
Q-vHas not this beenthe condition OF things
since you have been marshal" Youhad better
OIL am trying to, can't you tell me9 A-No,
sir. can't
Q-Ald. j. FreSeke-gas it been the custom of
letting out prisoners be'ore morning If youar-
rested them or put them In for lodging" A-NO,
Q-Ald. Lamfrom DO you lock the door when
you put them in in that way? Ayes. sir.
Q-Ald. Crandell-Supposlng they ask to he let
out?
Redirect examination by Mr. Chapman.
A-No, sir.
Q-Now there has been something said about
having it In for Mr. Cady; now ! want to ask you
complaints have been made to you about the
conduct of Mr. Cady?
OBJECTED 10 as lncompetent ana mmaterlal.
and as being something outside this charge.
Aid J. Frieseke-I move that this Investigation
and testimony be confined strictly to this artlc
uar charge. Which motion was carried.
John Hammond, q witness produced, sworn
and examined, testified as follows: Direct eX-
animation by Mr.. Chapman.
Q-Mr. Hammond, do you remember the time
that these two boys were arrested or were locked
up and put In the lookup here, and that q gun
was bought from them? Ayes, sir.
C-When did you first hear OF those two boys (
being locked up here or being locked up down
below here? ABOUT halfpast eleven.
Q--1hat night? Ayes, sir.
Q-Do you know when they were locked up?
A-NO, SIR.
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Q-What did he say to you? Ale said that |
there was q couple of boys that he had locked up
or that he had put In the JAIL and that they had
q gun that they wanted to sell, think that lie |
said ID was a shot gun.
Q-Where did you saw you had this CONVERSE |
ton? Al think that 1t was on the corner of Ball |
and Main streets; as sta, ted met MIR. Bumps, |
he came along and stopped and talked with me |
and asked me where was going. and told him |
/ was going to meet Cady and he walked along |
with me down to the bridge; we set there and |
talked a few minutes and Cady says have got u |
couple of boys in the jail that have got shot |
gun and they want TO sell IT, and Bumps says let's
20 down and see them, maybe can buy 1t. |
want shot gun. We all came back and went In |