New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-05-23
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toner for about twelve years nave oeeh N
m senaer fSS%' eh! will please
answer r the snf'' MT G Safes0'''a' YOU
O. Csy Mr. GoffJ-Did you supply any lumber TO
s sne g YES: a great deal more than since
have been a Commissioner. :. ,.o .,,r,v
lumber? A~To the National the Atlla las the Gu
nard the Anchor and to the @h;s year to
the Atlas and about $4,000 to the National Smaller
"' 0When did You begin supply the National'
A~since I was Commissioner ..-. ono
9-WWhheenn 10 to the CunardY A-Atout two years
ago. . ., =, ,,o,, tvvo ve,rs ago
3WWhheenn TO the White Star? about the same
time The companies aniss- % HoTa mat time
pO11he companies moved nearer 10 you. did they
Gan we Won IN name firm OF builders In this city
TO whom you have supplied iS SnYs moi been supply
ing builders much for years. My trade Is more Win
cabinet-makers.
SINCE HE HAS BEEN A COMMISSIONER
o-Has not the great bulk Of your trade been
with corporations since you have been commas
s,oner? A-Yes that is true, but not because was
a Commissioner.
O-Have you ever drawn checks to Acker. Merran
& Condlt? Ayes sometimes. We had small
trade with the firm. and sometimes drew checks
| for the payment OF the groceries.
Odd you not pay to the firm in single year
| more than your salary Commissioner? 40
| / do not think that the groceries bought by MIS-
| McClave from that firm amounted 10 more ina"
Si Mr. 1,off2You need not bring Mrs McCave into
! MIR Nicoll-It seems to that mans grocery
'i Senator lSn' L % Con- think finished
WI" NJ WcClave-I am willing to admit what my llv-
| ing expenses cost. If that Is desired. ,
Mr. Go Will foSw +, up II there Is no oe} tann
and It is to supposed that he has large expenses
o Mr. ms CoffmHis family has not Increased since he
has been Commissioner. lAuRhterl xr
Mr. McCaveINo the last OF my Ioapreeh cR R
! newed laughter. 49,, H., 49,.
| wants in your house before you were Commits
soner? A.-Let me see. don't know that have
| six servants.
FIVE SERVANTS FOR HIS HOUSEHOLD.
| Q-Have you so many. many that you can't
| tell the number without counting them? Al
| have five servants, including the nurse for Mrs
| Changers children.
| Q-Do you keep yacht? A.-No but have
| rowboat
Q-when you used Inspector wllams's yacht
| his yacht. one Of my boys took a sail on Will
| iamss boat one time. ! never was on H. It,, ono
sumner "[ did NOT Inspector Williams send his yacht
there for % has that cost a sS@t
500 and the newspapers have been trying to make
| Q.-Are you a defender Of Inspector Williams? a.
No He IS able to take care Of himself. ~ .oro
than With anybody else
| Ole has been OF your subordlnates? a
| Q-How many times has he been on trial before.
you? A.-Two or three times, -. .,,...,
| Q.-You have always voted for his acquittai
| haven't you? A.-Inspector Williams has not been
found guilty Of a charge since have been Com
| missioner
ALWAYS on wILTIAMs's SIDE.
o-you voted for his acqutta each time? A
| think did
| Q.-The first time he trial he was not
| acquitted was he? Al think he was acquitted
| and deserved to be-
Mr.. McClave tried to talk about the opinion
| which had been handed in by Ellhu Root and other
| lawyers who counsel for Williams In the
| trial but he was called order by Senator Lexow
| and admonished 10 answer the questions categori-
missioner Porter declaring that Williams had been
guilty OF conduct unbecoming an officer as captain
| In the Nineteenth Precinct IN permitting dsordery
| houses and gambling houses 10 remain open. lie
also read the announcement o, IN ne on vI' wams
guilty Of the charges Commissioners Porter and
had an yG Sc f2a Hf ha o S nas
o-You do not consider that tie vote an ac9ufa s
do you? Ayes | consider IL an acqulttai Inc
motion find him guilty and the motion was
ODD you afterward vote to promote wilIiams7
Q-That old charge was never disposed Of then?
1t still remains in the department? A.-Yes. 1t stu
remains in the department .. n.,, per,,n,,co,
Commissioner. perhaps he VIII call II up.
WITH TAMMANY COLLEAGUES
| O. (By Mr.. Goff)-You have stated lately that you
voted with your Tammany colleagues because they
} were always in the right? Al did not say that
| was so reported. but stated In an open meet
ing Of the Police Board that the report was untrue
What did say that did not think IT was my
duty 10 act as an obstructionst In the Police Board
and / voted with the other Commissioners when
o''-Has Commissioner MacLean voted with the
other Commissioners? A.-Yes In most matters;
He has made objections In a few matters OF small
ny o@How was it Qnshe trials Of CAPTAINS Price
- nn6
and Martens was fined thirty days pay. Comms-
sioner MacLean voted with the other Comms;
sloners as to Price but he thought Martens should
' o'MWas there an executive meeting OF the board
: at which the cases Of the two captains were dis
cussed? Ayes; met In the room OF Commits
S'S oAt that meeting did one Of Commissioners
both captains? Al have no recollection OF such
thing . .oo. ,,., r. tho. ,Doo,,re an. y,
the Commissioners did not announce his Intention
to vote TO find both captains guilty and did not
that nsthine Of that knd was said n
the open meeting the result of compromise? A
"A At this point the committee adjourned for
IT IS INTIMIDATION. SAYS SENATOR LExow.
{ Mr. Nicoll addressed the committee soon as the
members took their seats for the afternoon session
Mr. Nicoll-I wish to correct published report OF
\ this mornings session. In which II appeared that
| | presumed TO have some knowledge Of the where
i abouts OF Granger. | sure you Will accept my
#" statement that know nothing whatever about his
l. ! whereabouts / want him 10 appear here. / went
d? over the ground covered by his testimony with Mr.
:, McCIave last night and am anxious for chance
IN cross-examine him. l have in my possession
r. twenty proofs Of forgeries-and Mr. Nicoll wayet
I | some papers In the air.
. ! Senator Lexow-Mr. Nico. that will not do VIZ
cannot allow you such words. They are II
The line OF intimidation, and are bound to protec
J., ! our witnesses We do not know yet that Mr.
Granger is in contempt for refusing to appear. rh
committee will be patient IN It's search ior the faS t
nd N
facts We will compel witnesses to testify and pro
tect them from the results. We know perfectly wei
that any man who goes on the stand takes hi
q reputation almost his life. In his hands applause
c. which was checked by the chairman)
O. 0Iy Mr. GonD-Mr McCave. did you no