The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1894-01-29

WILLIS PREVAILS ON THE QUEEN TO GRANT
AMNESTY AS TO LIFE AND PROPERTY.
1t took the Queen over a month to get
over her idea of beheading all the MEM
beers OF the Provisional Government.
Her first interview with Mr.. Willis oc-
Cured on Nov. 18th, The second took
place on Dec. 10Th, and in the meantime
she had been in conference with Mr.. j.
o. Carter, the brother of the ex-Minister,
and the effect of his influence is shown
when she again appeared before the
United States Minister. Mr.. Carter ac-
companied her to the legation, and the
stenographic report of the conference
shows plainly how he prompted her to
manifest disposition less resentful than
she had formerly maintained. The ex-
tracts from the report OF the converse
ton are interesting as showing the feel
ing of the ex-Queen at the second inter-
view.
Mr.. Willis-You still adhere to your
Judgment that all of those persons should
be punished according to the law under
the Constitution OF 1887, which is, that
they should be punished with capita
punishment and their property con
fiscated?
The Queen-I feel that if any chang.
should be made that they must not b,
permitted to remain in the country, anC
that their property should be confis
Gated.
Mr.. Carter-You do rescind so mucl
of that interview as pronounced upol
the death penaltyP
The Queen do in that respect.
Mr.. Carter-You feel that their re
naming in the country would be
constant source OF trouble to you AM
your people2
The Queen do. ] feel, also, that
they were sent away they should neve
be permitted to return-they or thei
children.
Mr.. Carter = Unless you exercise,
clemency Or would you pronounc
definitely against them now
The Queen-I feel SO; that the,
should be permanently banished am
their children.
After further conversation in which
the Queen said that she wanted to con
fiscate the property of persons con
cerned in the establishment of tin
Provisional Government, SO as to pa,
for the expenditure incurred by tina
Government in arming the militia
Minister Willis again brought up TIN
question of amnesty:
Mr.. Wiilis-I understand from til
fact that you have affirmed our previou
conversation and from your converse
ton to-day, that you would not b
willing to grant absolute amnesty, bot
as to persons and property TO those VIII
have either supported or who hay
aided in setting up the Provisional Gov
eminent; that you feel you could nc
do itP
The Queen--I feel / could not do it fc
the safety OF our subjects.
Mr.. Carter-That is that the col
tinued presence OF these people is col
tinued menace.
Mr.. Willis-Do you adopt Mr.. Carter
words?
The Queen do.
Now comes the story OF the thir
interview of Minister Willis with IL
Queen. 1t occurred at the America
legation on Dec. IS, two days after ii
the previous conference, and again NJ
Carter appeared III the role OF one wi
would have the Queen abandon her r.
vengeful ideas, SO as to get back on Il
throne, while Minister Willis is sti
shown to be endeavoring to extort fro
her an agreement for complete amnest
Mr.. Carter begins by telling the Minist
that he was quite surprised and pain,
sat learning the remarks which ii
Queen had uttered at her first intervie
with Mr.. Willis" He said that he hs
told the Queen how deeply he had bee
impressed with Mr.. Cleveland's ute
ances, as conveyed to her by Mr.. Will
and he continued:
81 have said to her Majesty that
seems to me that the position OF NJ
Cleveland is full OF difficulties and Ell
barrassments; that as President OF t
United States he is a ruler among t