Evening star., 1894-01-10
Representative Loud Was in Homo
lulu When Blount Was
THE LATTER WENT TO ATTAIN An END
Mr.. Ellis Says All Pacific Coast
Leaders Oppose CIeveIand's Policy.
DEMANDS CONGRESS NOTICE.

Representative Loud Of California takes
keen interest in the Hawaiian situation. be-
ing in a position to understand many Of
the conditions surrounding the matter. He
has visited Hawaii a number OF times. and.
in fact. was in Honolulu at the time Para
mount Blount made his alleged investiga-
ton.
When asked by a Star reporter today for
the result OF his observations OF MI.
Blount's methods OF obtaining the alleged
facts subsequently presented In his report,
Mr.. Loud said:
Il believe that Blount went TO Honolulu
to attain a certain end, and his investiga-
tions were In that line. / was with him at
times. knowing him well through our asso-
ciation in Congress. He never mingled
with the best people there. with the repre-
sentative people. He confined himself al
most exclusively to his cottage, and the
people with whom he allowed himself 70
come into contact were natives or those
white people in accord with the queen. He
seemed to have the appearance OF a man
VINO had the whole responsibility OF the
United States and the Hawaiian rovern
ment upon his shoulders, and was fearful
OF being seduced- The better element re-
trained from going before HIM. They were
hot invited. and they believed that they
were not wanted. and that the testimony
which they would give was not In his line.
Mr. Willis Course
speaking OF the Hawaiian situation fur
ther Mr.. Loud said: II do not thSok that
Minister Willis has taken action I'm the a.
recuon OF putting the queen upon the
tnrone unless he has received direct in
structions to that effect / think that up
10 tnis time Minister Willis has used the
utmost discretion The course he assumed
was WISE high and patriotic. II he had not
assumed that course he would have an.
volved this country in serious copseouence..
snat is. II he had followed his Instruction.
There Is no doubt in my mind that he went
70 Hawaii with full instructions, whether
the throne. When he reached Honolulu he
FOUND the conditions entirely difYerent
from what they had been represented co
~ nun ny Biount He found that Honolulu
Is as much an American city in popula tion.
patr1otism, refinement and education az
any city OF its size in the United States."
The Best Thing to Do.
MI. Loud thinks that the best thing for
this government to do now Is 10 let the
Hawaiians alone. yet IL any other nation
tries to get the islands II would be bettsr
for this government to take them. Ha
has never been a rabid annexatioufst. he
says. and admits that there are areuments
Tor and against annexation. but he does not
concede that there is any argument favor
Ing the restoration OF the queen.
He thinks that while this administration
may have been misinformed and lily ad-
vised by Mr.. Blount to a certain extent
that fact does not relieve the administration
from responsibility. for no administration
should have acted upon the advice Of one
man. or without the report OF an Impartial
and unbiased commission.
Condemns Cleveland's Action.
Mr.. Ellis Of Oregon: From all I can learn
the newspapers and the leading men on the
Pacific coast are all opposed to the position
OF the administration this question.
There are. however. a great many annexa-
tionists In that part of the country who be-
iieve it is the proper thing to annex the
Hawaiian Islands.
Il think the matter is serious enough 10
demand the immediate attention Of Con-
giess. and I think the matter should be
taken ND and considered. 1 have no hesl-
fancy. as far as I am concerned, I'm favor
Ing the condemnation OF Mr.. Cleveland
but i don't give much announcement 70
this idea OF impeachment i think he has
gone beyond the functions of the executive
to a certain extent. but I'm my opinion Il
has not reached that state where 1t de-
mands Impeachment"
Mr. Caminettrs yfews.
Mr.. Caminetti of California thinks the
President is in the right in his efforts 10
undo what he terms a wrong perpetrated
upon another nation. He thinks Minister
Stevens exceeded his authority at the time
of the revolution and that the wrong per
petrated upon the Hawaiian government by
that action should be repaired by such
means as are necessary. The fact that the
outraged government was a monarchy, or
that IL Is alleged TO be morally weak does
not enter into the question. The law of ma
tions does not recognize distinctions of this
kind. He thinks that President Cleveland's
action In the Hawaiian matter will rebound
to his fame and everlasting credit.
senator Perkins.
Il think II is high time" said Senator
Perkins OF California to a Star reporter
this afternoon. that Congress should form
definite policy in regard to the Hawaiian
Islands. The vascillating course OF the
country In this crisis OF the islands is shock
ing to the sensibilities OF the whole Ameri-
can people. 1 think that Congress should
now take 1t upon itself to declare that the
provisional government of the island hav-
ing established itself beyond a question
should be recognized and encouraged az the
government in law and fact. 1 have no
hesitancy in saying that personally ] am
in favor Of the provisional government: I
have Travelled In the islands. 1 know their
character, know the character Of the peo-
pie who now constitute this government.
and know them to be men OF the broadest
minds, the highest character and the great
est capacity. 1 think Il is a shame that
this country does not recognize that gov
ernment and put the two countries upon 9
definite international footing"
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