New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-05-08
HORSEMEN ON THE IVES LAW DECISION.
SOME OF THEM ARE HOPEFUL, WHILE OTHERS

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TAKE GLOOMY VIEW OF ITS EFFECTS
James r. Keene. when seen by Tribune re-
norter AZ the office Of the Jockey Club, In the
cumberland at Fifth-ave and Twenty -second-st.'
yesterday afternoon, in regard to the decision OF
the General Term OF the Court of Common Peas,
declaring the Ives Pool law unconstitutional an ac-
count of which Is printed page II OF this Issue.
expressed ignorance Of the whole question IN gen.
eral and of this in particular
IL don't know anything about H. he said, and
En- naturally cannot tel what the effect will be
Of something about which entirely ignorant"
"you know do YOU not" asked the reporter,
that the General Term OF the Court OF Common
Pleas has declared the Ives bill unconstitutional?
Eyes | have seen that in the afternoon papers,
but don't know anything about this case was
the reply Anyway" he continued. Il suppose the
"a o. will have 10 be decided by the Court OF APP
meals before the question is finally settled. Will 1t
not?'
THAT Is the court of last resort" replied the
reporter but the General Term OF the Common
Peas is next in the matter OF jurisdiction 20 the
Court of Appeals and has coordinate Jurisdiction
with the General Terms Of the Supreme Court ana
this Is the highest court believe which has passed
upon the question In such circumstances 1t would
be interesting to know what effect you think the
decision viii have racing this season.
Il cannot really say. because do not know any
thing about It," was the reply.
While the reporter was taking WIN MI h.e"e'
A. H. iumme, who has been counsel for various
nar,ies IN the racetrack litlgations came out Of
an inner office the same that Mr.. Keene had come
from when the reporter asked TO see him.
John Hunter surer than Mr.. keene was
what the effect OF the decision would he.
What effect Will this decision have on the present
racing season." the reporter asked Mr. Hunter
Il cannot really say" he replied But ne con-
tinued. when a man like Judge Danie.s' VINO II
one OF the best lawyers in the country dec.are'
the Ives law constitutional. guess 1t Is al right
But" rejolned the reporter. 1.-The General Term
OF the Court Of Common Pleas IL the court next
lower than the Court OF Appeals and Is the highest
court which has passed the question
you will have 10 excuse me- because don
know anything about the decision or what effect
1t will have" said Mr.. Hunter, as he went back 10
the inner Office.
The decision o. the General Term OF the Court OF
Common Peas caused a commoton among the
horsemen and bookmakers who frequent the up
town hotels and cafes Robert irving, the book
maker who brought the suit recover money on
notes given by Briiton for bets made some years
ago, said: Il am sorry ever sued Brtton. did
not think 1t question Of law In regard 10
in the case was in lay favor. but when an appeal
WAS taken anxious 10 withdraw the suit. oui
could not Withdraw it, I consulted John NJ. Bowers
about the case. and asked him II the racing asso-
Citations would take Il ny. but Mr.. Bowers SAID the
associations were not Interested ana tni" decision
is the result"
\ majority Of the. booHmak.rs said that taey
did not think the decision would afec; the betting
rings hS Season a. an spsa ~ W9 S Cone ne issn
Jockey club did not seem 10 care about tnc dc-
cslon, but wanted to tax about the new Jockey
John o Heel schcr WAS not at all worried con-
John H. Bradford who Is the balance wheel OF
the Coney Island Jockey Club. said that In the face
OF the other decisions which have been handed down
from time 90 time the Common Pleas decision
would not have much II any. effect unless aihrmed
Peter De Lacy looked grim and determined as he
said "All that desire 10 DO - 20 md out what
and the public. I only desire TO place track-owners
and all others associated with racing betting IN
their proper places. and cause dsnne understand
Ing 10 be reached as - the powers OF the track
owners"
Many persons took serious ana gloomy view OF
the outlook ard sl1 that al The conditions were
80 different now from waa they were some year.
ago that n the decision should stand here was
chance for the race;racks. Wher asked why
the same arrangements could not be made as In
former years. the answer was TINT Mcksne was
was now a tattered deuce among aces. and the
people who formerly had the pull Or control ~
ssr' y, in Kass Is T2gn T o sG as :" JAIL or pow
II makes no difference what the members OF the
Jockey club the racing officials may say about
the decision. Il came Ike thuncerbol, from a
could not give clear statement IN regard 10 the
matter Had dynamite bomb been thrown into
OF the turf meeting I could no; have caused
more CONSERVATION SO that at present racing with
betting Is held In the balance
A meeting Of certain horse-o~ners and others
interested In racing Is TO be held at Gravesend on
Club IN general IL looks az the present time
n the least said or done TO attract attention TO
the Discussions that beset the turf through ~ on
clas and outsiders The better 1t Will be for all