The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1894-06-13

Washington, June Ill " rave
meyer, president of the American sugar
refinery. was before Gray's investiga-
ton committee today. The proceedings
were strictly private.
Havemeyer denied the published
statements as to the contributions to
the campaign funds. and the demand
that the trust should have protection
for past favors. He said he talked
with Senators Hill, German and Smith
in regard to the protection of refining
interests. Smith and German promised
to help him Hill gave him no satls-
faction He said the present tarln OIL
was unsatisfactory because a dlIIeren-
tial eighth of a cent was not suflclent
to afford all the protection the rennerS
should receive. He advocated an al
valorem system, and was grained that
lit had been adopted.
Havemeyer denied all knowledge OF
speculation III Sugar stocks by sena-
tors.
Mr.. Havemeyer was asked about the
published statement that he had, on
Either Mr.. b. G. Benedict's yacht, or at
Greenwich, Conn, been in consultation
with Mr.. Cleveland and Mr.. Benedict
in 1892. after Mr.. Cleveland's nominal
ton for the presidency about the sugar
interests as affected by the Hawaiian
treaty To this Mr.. Havemeyer SAID
there was mot one word of truth.
He also declared no such consultation
had ever occurred at any time or place.
He added that he did not know Mr.
Cleveland, and had never seen hln
Furthermore, he had never exchanged
a word with Mr.. Benedict on the sub
iect of sugar, or any other business
matter He said he had come to WASH
ington early in March. after the tariff
bill had passed the House, with the
hope of getting a hearing before the
finance committee, and had gone TO
Senator Vest to ask him If it would not
be possible to secure a hearing by the
committee. Mr.. Vest had said no, but
had agreed to allow him to explain the
sugar question to him CVest indiyidu-
ally. and ne had done so.
He then explained his interview with
Senator Jones at Senator Camden's
rooms at Senator Brice's house. He
had talked with Jones about three
quarters of an hour about the different
systems of levying duty. and about the
cost of refining sugar in this and other
countries.
He said he had been invited to Sena-
tor Brice's and asked by the senator to
meet Senator Caffrey and when he met
him. merely went over the argument
for an ad valorem duty. Mr.. Have
meyer said he had gone to the capitol
with Mr.. Terrill. but not for the pur-
pose of seeing senators or representa-
tives.
1--WE were idling around" he said,
sort of SPECTATORS
Some Startling Statements.
Mr.. Havemeyer made some rather
startling statements towards the close
of his testimony. He was asked about
the contribution of the Sugar trust to
the campaign funds of political par
ties, and said the records of the trust
showed that such contributions were
made, but they were made to the state
committees not to the national commit
tees.
He was asked if the contributions of
the trust were given to both parties in
the same state and replied:
"Oh, nor
How do you arrange it?' he was
asked.
well. New York is a Democratic
state. We give to the Democrats there,
and to the Republicans in Massachu-
sets. We never give to the minority"
Did you contribute to the anti-snap-
pers?" asked Senator Lodge.
"Oh. no. l an quite sure on that
point; nothing to the anti-snappers.
Mr.. Havemeyer could not remember
the amounts contributed by the
Sugar trust to the different campaign
funds, but he promised to furnish them
IL ne could get them.
Cordmeyer was called after Mr.
Havemeyer finished. He gave the COM
mittee little or no information.
In his questions, Senator Allen sought
to develop the fact that there was an
understanding between the Sugar trust
and Claus Spreckels for a division OF
TERRITORY. and while Mr. Havemeyer
admitted his company did not ship be-
yond the Missouri river, he contended
1T was because of physical difficulties
and not on account of an understand
| ing
Senator Allen asked why the trust
had attempted to control legislation in
Congress. To this Mr.. Havemeyer re-
piled:
THAT undoubtedly. is what I have
been down here for
He said the trust had made about
S15.000,0O0 by the purchase of the other
refineries
| Asked whether the trusts contribu-
| tions to political parties amounted to
| $1,OO0,000 in any one campaign, Mr..
Hevemeyer said,
ooh no.
He said nothing was contributed to
influence presidential nominations in
| 1892. The money so spent was charged
on the books of the trust. MIR. Have
meyer said in reply TO further ques-
| tioning that if the committee desired
| it he could produce the figures from
| the books of his company, showing
what contributions had been made for
! political purposes, and the committee
putting such a request. he asked the
privilege of consulting his counsel.