New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-10-03

were at least ten houses OF ill-fa.ne. There were
it was not safe at times pass through that way
Odd you have any meetings? A-Yes we hai
member of the society and during those meetings
We were frequently ann9yea by me ,b ppne w
moving against. and In some cases these very
people themselves. .
Odd you have police protection against that!
A.-Oh, no. the contrary. one OF the policemen
the Nineteenth Precinct came to me once VIII
me to get out of the movement altogether that the
Captain himself would soon come around and clear
us all out. | replied that he could not bring ms
club in too quick. and that II any attempt was made
to 1t We would apply a can Of dynamite which dl
different counties adjacent to New-fork.
WORKING AGAINST BIG ODDS.
There was an attempt first at applause as Mr..
Moss said this but this changed into uproarlous
outburst OF laughter. In which everybody joined
Odd you get any warrants for the arrest Of
anybody? Ave did outside the Nineteenth Pre-
cinct we had recourse to the court squad In Fifty
seventh-st.
Q.-These houses were in the famous Tenderloin
Precinct? A.-Yes It took six or eight months
then there was really nothing effective done
Foil os n pa e keep hSyss ssfs? 1t
was known as The Captains house nauSntero l.,
9Sd these proceedns result n any Charges
being made against the captain Of the precinct?
the workings OF the Police Department in the pre-
cinct and found in Thirtyfrst and Thirty-second
solicited myself passing the sidewalks. After
sonsutns win 9r GrosDy , WE p Ii, ,se mssr
to trial. and told Mr.. Hewitt that | knew well
that II could prove our case We shouiu
get but two votes for conviction-voorhis and
Porter but proof or no proof , we shovh bo not ra
would be likely 20 result in nothing.
what was ,ss tss sroIe and it in
a tie vote. ne would call the attention OF the Com
missioners to the matter.
thal hnr, thA N
OF the society. charges were made against Captain
williams by superintendent Murray. and he was
brought to trial in July. 1881 The trial lasted one
day.
Q.-How many witnesses did you have? Ave
had thirty-nve including ministers. householders.
business men. two or three ladies', and some -FOUR
detectives. who had been in certain of the houses:
James b. Smith who Is now IN the uhdertah!tns
business. testified that he lived west OF seventh
and that his family were Obliged to ma axo,d
passing through Thirty hrst or Thirty-second ST.
CAPTAIN Williams EFFRONTERY.
O-Give us another example? A.-The Rev.
Cornelius Pretori. attached to Il Catholic church
in Thrty-frst-st.. testified that he was annoyed
and insulted frequently by women who appeared
In adjoining houses with scarcely any clothing on
them and that when he complained to Captain
williams he actually asked to take testimony
about the character OF these houses himself. 1t
appeared by the admission OF the captain that In
the space of one year and some months he had
made only two raids upon houses In that section.
In the case OF Captain Williams's trial submitted
a brief OF the evidence and 1t was reviewed by
Mr. Porter who the only man who wrote an
opinion asserting that the conclusions IN my prlei
were justified BY the evidence as he had read it,
Mr. Moss here produced the brief and the opinion.
and In answer to Mr.. Gof said that the decision
was substantially n tie vote.
Mr. C;oN (reading from the minutes OF the Board
OF Police ommlssioners)CAnd that same session on
Inspector% A'-That is So
o''~And yet Mr. voorhls voted for his promotion
specnca tons he held that Captain Williams had
been guilty Of the offences charged? Aust so.
Mr. Ciofr looked around him for moment sig
nlfcantly. as though he expected to Alexander
: williams and John K. Noorhs in some corner OF
the room but they not there. of course. For
n moment he didn't resume. that everybody might
understand how curiously. TO say the least. the
Board OF Police Commissioners look at things when
a captain let alone patrolman. Is Involved Mr.
Moss had himself something startling to say now.
and az he saying 1t, he looked significantly at
Major Kpp the chief clerk OF the department. as
much as to say. How do you account for that.
Major?' This is what Mr.. Moss said:
THE RECORD BLOTTED OUT
have here the official record OF Inspector Will
Jams from the time ne entered the department. and
| have compared this record with the original record
and find that this Is entirely omitted from the
record. In the case OF other policemen. where the
decision was a tie vote. have always found the
case stated on the record; but in the case of Cap
tain Williams there is mention Of it whatever
Q.-Where did you get this record? A-From the
clerk at Headquarters
Mr. Moss again looked significantly at Major Kip,
but that official kept right along curling his mus
tache and did not appear to mind bit.
ouen, TO the trial, and asked him how 1t went. and
ne said he didn't know that he supposed he must
have been acGntted because ne haf pe sba, mace
that | became counsel for the Society for the Pre-
Q."Have you any knowledge of any other trial
OF police officials? Ayes.
that charges were made by the society against Cap
tain Carpenter and Captain MciAughiin FOR will
0.,-Where? An McLaushlin's case, No. IS Full
ton-st. and in the case of CARPENTER No Is Ann;
from the reports Of these captains to HEADQUARTERS
that they were gambling houses. We put private
assistance OF the police. without the knowledge even
OF the police. secured all the testimony that
from Headguarters These cases we're tried against
these two captains In August. 1882 and Voorhs and
MacIean voted for conviction. and McClave and
Mr. Gofr-They were politically divided?
M'LAUGHLIN AT ONCE PROMOTED
"Ony apparently So" said Mr. Moss laughing.
and then added In more serious tone ut was
not long after that that Captain Mclaughlin was
made Inspector
Q-Whle this charge was undisposed Of? A.
Q.-And he is chief OF the Detective Bureau to-
0.-What about Captain Carpenter? Ale
retired.
Q-Neither OF these three captains was ever
acquitted? A.-No.
80 that remarked Mr.. Gof. in his most
solemn tones I'VE have the police force OF
New-York to-day two inspectors. one OF whom Is
the chief OF the Detective Bureau. and both OF
whom are under charges which have never been
disposed Of" ,
same condition. and that was Captain Killilea.
Al this stage Mr.. Con rested for a moment. put
the pile OF papers that lay before him into order
of itself has made the coming witness tremble.
or the big crowd Of bluecoats present not one