New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-09-13

He said: MIR Chairman and gentlemen not 10Y
the purpose OF entering into any dispu'a"o" WI"
the learned counsel Of the Police ,oh'''''SS'o''
nor vet wishing to involve either TINS committee
or myself from any controversy win me lpnce
Commissjoners or their learned counsel stu deem
II hut inst 10 call attention to an interview win
IRONS mss tement of fact was made, and which
has obtained much currency ouchns .s ~ rnprsr1
of the witness who is now on thr stduI, ~ 49, a.
to ;he charges preferred against Cht,Alh ,i9"c, =,
connection with which ne mas pSe i.i, and If
has been printed frequently in the newspapers, nd
it is common knowledge that Car erner M ns' Maid
bv him for protection OF a disor1ery house IN zap
tain Cross's precinct at time when as d Ws"y
comments have been heard upon that as o', 70
illustration of the nnGertainIy az order that the
record may be- made straight. deem II lncuine ei
morning and to Set Mr Wellman and other persons
who have given currency TO the mistaKe riSi' so,o
cations made against Captain Cross during his re-
cent trial before the Police Commissioners. ne ne
referred especially to the twenty-fh charge which
speciiied that the said Adam Cross about tne
twentieth OF April 1892. and the said George Smtn
WerEer Who o' then and there april 92 kept and
maintained on the premises Known az md ma smith
well knowing the SAM, the sum OF ." upon d"
agreement FOR protection. etc" -,.,, o,arce
which SAID that Captain Cross. on May J. ~ took
smother SO from Werner oT the sams purp9Sse
monv "1 Of Verne, before ills committee.
Q-When YOU served your seven years Drn III
Sing Sing and came out, what did you do? M,ml
went 10 No Delancey-si and kept a mouse 81 pros
Yin o."And You kept it untn November, 1895? A
Q--That is, from January. 1873. until November
1885? A.-Yes sir
MR. WELI.MAN'S BAD MISTAKE.
'Whereas." said Mr. Golf. as he stopped reading
the testimony "the charges and specifications pre-
scented by the learned prosecutor or counsel to the
Police Commissioners allege Carl Werner to nave
testified he gave Captain Cross money In lsE When
they Went put in the proof to sustain the cnarses
Vet they made great display AMI brought even
State Detective Jackson to prove that at me tiine
prison Detective Jackson was allowed 20 go on
the stand and swear to ih2I tsc hP bai thew a
tuay put in evidence TO contradict that which
The Chairman-was there any testimony in regard
10 these specifications before the nlsslorers?
MIR. Goff-Not one word although Mr.. Wcllman. in
a recent interview. would seem 10 leave II 20 De
inferred that there had been. even though Mt wei,
the committee at the time the charges were drawn
Mr. Golf, reading from the interview with Mr..
Wolman said II present Al the preparation 81
OF the charges and specifications. ana candidy
i shuddcr when recall some ~ the testimony nc
cepted and spread before the public 10y the L@Xo~
y Wink. Mr.. Golf" said Senator saxton sarcas-
ticai.y that other people shuddered az well
BAD ATTACK or THE SHAKES
And the fever and ague." replied Mr.. Colt has
not abated one jot' This greeted with sarcas-
tic laughter by everybody present
Examination OF the witness Werner was then
resumed by Mr. Coz.
o-Wcrc YOU examined questioned by any Of
fetal any person In connection with the prep
aration Of these charges against Captain Crosse
Q-Were YOU. ever interviewed by any official In
regsrd 10 Them A.-No, sir.
Q-YOu in the TOmbs at the time? 4
o-Anl so far as these two specifications are
n.p mad rstfT all a 4
on April 20 1899. You gave bTihes 10 Captain Cross
or, his ward man f2g hir. r and also on M'y
that 1 left stat prison about Christmas 1872.
ana went into this disorder'y house business In
At this point Mr. sedgwick, who is counsel for
pending again., him. came in and sat beside Mr.
Golf, who announced that Mr.. Scdgwick was pres.
against his client that would prejudice him in the
coming trial After sitting through the testimony
he took copiou- notes Mr. sclgwlck went away.
feeling that OF the very mouth OF Cohen who
Is the person alleged TO have been oribed. he bad
the comes TO trial.
BECAUSE HE WAS A LEXOW WITNESS.
Werner explained that he went into the bar
room business because the brewer had taken out
license two months previously for him. The
brewer said they would take mortgage the
place, and the witness in II only ten twelve
days before the trouble began. the police having
discovered him. and known him 10 BE- witness
before the I>exow Committee. He had a bartender
named HUSH Mccormick who he said iqrn n,i
personal effects while he, the witness was in
prison Then he tod how Policeman Cohen came anne
In one Sunday night at o'clock with another
policeman. and arrested his bartender
men see but assacd Mccormick for having Jet
them ln and Mccormick said ne didn't know they
were policemen
HOW TO TELL a DETECTIVE.
Q.-How did you know they were? Al said
Don't you the is detective? Look at
his shoes" O.aughter)
Q-Is there anything peculiar about a detectives
shoes? A-They generally wear No. "A shoes
with big double soles Q-aughter) am very near
sighted. but knew Cohen was detective when
IT NAV here be mentioned that It was in connec-
ton with this arres, of his bartender that Werner
Cohen said 10 the bartender" continued the Wit
ness. :" 1t isn't for You. 1t IS for the old man we
low who had n stand outside the door, and who
was paying me so month"
papers, and said that he knew all about him. that
he had been a witness before the Lexow Com
arrested In Essex Market at the time OF the alleged
attempt. but at $50 o'clock that evening. Then he
statement which Kramer was reluctant to admit.
Zen captains Of police cannot close up this place.
for 1t IS respectable place II we go against the
police here all my customers will be bothered on
Sundays, and we cannot stand That"
1T WAS CROss's REVENGE HE SAYS
The witness said he believed Mccormick had told
CAPTAIN Cross that he (Werner) had other wit
nesses he would bring before the Lexow Committee.
and that the captain wished to get even with him
for that. Mary Reynauld was one of them and
another from No Delancey-st. lie believed that
Epstein the who went bail for him. was also
frightened by the captain into guaranteeing him
The next witness was Henry Cohen. the policeman
who has charged Werner or Washer with bribery.
Mr. Ciof made no mistake when he informed the
witness in the course Of his examination that he
than the average patTOm1u.' Cohen
described how while he In company with Po-
lccman Arfken. Werner had come ny TO him in The
Essex Market Court and wanted him 10 make the
charge against Mccormick exposure" and not
selling without a License ard at the same time
ne slipped s. bill into his hand.
O-You felt something soft? Ayes
Q--You knew It not gold or silver? Ayes.
0-And your hand closed on 1t mechanically?
Ayes U.aughter)