The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-03-15
The Liberal Ministers Recover from
Their Surprise and Proceed to
Undo LabOuchere's Work.
HIS AMENDMENT REJECTED
And a Substitute Adopted by the
Commons on HarcOurt's Motion.
Violent Protests from Redmond and
SaundersOn Against Sir Williams
Hurry in Moving Closure.


recovered to-day from it's knockout of yes
terday and, instead of resigning, as some
members OF Parliament expected, too the
bull by the horns and tossed it out of the
Commons. In other words, the address in
reply to the Queens speech, as amended on
motion of Mr.. Labouchere, advocating aboli-
ton of the House of Lords, was killed and
substitute adopted. During the closing part
of the session there was great excitement
and disorder.
When the House of Commons met to-day
Sir William Vernon-Harcourt Chancellor of
the Exchequer, announced that the govern
ment had decided to move the rejection of
the amended address in reply to the Queens
speech, when 1t was put from the Chair
and to substitute a short address in reply
The Right Hon. Balfour, Conservative lead
er, and the Right Hon. Joseph Chamberlain
the Unionist leader, assured the govern
ment of their support in this matter. but
Mr.. Chamberlain added that yesterdays S
proceedings showed it was time that the
government asked their constituencies for q
fresh mandate
Mr.. Henry Labouchere, the Radical lead
er, said that the amendment to abolish the
veto power of the House of Lords which
was passed yesterday was not intended as
vote Of want of confidence in the govern
ment, but II was intended to quicken their
action In the execution of what the ma
jority of its supporters IN the country de-
manded. Mr.. Labouchere added that the
Radicals were satisfied that the majority Of
yesterday evening was the best they were
likely to get and, therefore, they would not
oppose a substitute for the address
HARCOURTS SPEECH
The House of Commons was densely
crowded when Sir William Vernon-Har-
court announced that the government pro-
posed to move the rejection of the amended
address. During the course of his remarks
the Chancellor of the Exchequer said that
1t was proceeding for which the govern
menI made themselves responsible. They
could rot formally present the Sovereign
with document for which they are not
prepared to accept the entire responsibility
The avowed object of the amendment in
corporated into the address was to raise
definite form of action to be taken by the
House of Commons in resisting the action
of the House of Lords. The government
fully accepted the declarations made on the
subject by Mr.. Gladstone in the House Of
Commons. cloud cheers) Continuing, Sir
William said that Mr.. LabOuchere had
stated that the amendment might be taken
as motion for the abolition of the House
OF Lords or a motions limiting the veto
power. But responsible ministers, if they
tnder advice to the sovereign upon such a
question must tender no ambiguous advice
They must make up their own minds. He
had consulted authority, and as the ad-
dress did not express a deliberate amend
ment OF the House, the government pro-
posed to move the rejection Of the amended
address when ii was put from the chair
and TO substitute another short address
Sir William added that he had stated yes
terday that the government proposed to op-
pose Mr.. Balfour'S doctrine that the House
of Commons was to be subject to the con-
troll of the House of Lords. Renewed
cheering) The government was not pre-
pared to follow Mr.. Labouchere'S advices
and create five hundred new peers. In or
der TO make the government responsible,
he (Sir William) would himself move new
address SO soon as the amendments were
disposed of and the present address neg
atived. Cheers and laughter.)
Mr.. Balfour denied that he had ever said
that the House of Lords should control
the House of Commons, and called atten-
ton to the fact that the ninety Unionists
yesterday evening, supported the govern
ment against thirty Gladstonians who voted
in opposition TO the government.
LABOUCHERE SPEAKS.
Mr. Labiuchere who followed, was re-
ceived with ironical cheers and laughter
throughout the course Of his remarks. He
said in part: 1--WE may withdraw this ad-
dress and bring in another, but the first
one remains the decision of the House. We
are the representatives of the people, and
the government are our representatives.
do not recognize that the government are
my masters. / always regarded them as
the servants of the majority of the House.
Whether YOU take the majority Of the mem
hnrc on ciG n he riGNxf
of the majority of Liberals outside the
House. they are with me in this matter.
action. Radical cheers) Outside the House
they do not whether you abolish or
destroy the House of Lords
| When the debate on the address in reply
Timothy Harrington and Mr.. John Z. Red
mond denounced the Defreynee evictions
and Mr.. Morley replied.
The amendment of Mr.. John J. Clancy
TO censure the administration Of the gov
| eminent in Ireland as giving encouragement
| TO evictiOns. assisting in the continuance
of jury packing, suppressing public meet
| ings, and as tending to produce contempt
for the law. was then taken up and re-
ieo+ed by vote cf cal to 10.
The moving of the closure by Sir Will
liam Harcourt on Mr.. Clancy's amendment
caused an angry scene. Mr.. John f. Red
mond. the Parnellite leader, arose and ex-
citedly called out No" Mr.. Redmond ther
shouted to Sir William Harcourt: 1.-The
debate was finishing when YOU moved 10
Joined in loud protests against the closure
| and Mr.. Redmond later. again shouted
Nobody else is going to speak" When the
question was finally put the Parnellites re-
newed their loud and angry shouts of NO
Lord Randolph Churchill also took part in
| the demonstration against the closure cry.
| ing: What do you mean by cloSuring at
| this time of the year?"
The close of the proceedings was quite
| farcical. the members treating the matter
! as q huge joke. When Sir William Harcourt
moved the substituted address Mr.. Edwart
J. Saunderson, Conservative member foI
| North Armagh, asked whether il was not
| the immemorial practice (cries of "What
/ do you know about it?) for a member
moving an address TO wear a uniform be
fitting his rank? loud laughter and erie:
7 OF "Order") Continuing. Mr.. Saundersor
the House for twenty minutes i'm order tC
allow Sir William HarcOurt TO array him
self in suitable garments" loud laugh
teri
Sir William Harcourt, who was inter.
rupted continually by irOncal cheers anC
laughter, said that II was not necessa- y
10 notice Mr.. Saunderson's remarks addinc
the opposition evidently saw in il an op
portunity TO treat the speech from ths
/ throne with levity. (Renewed cries of 'Or
{ der "Co on" etc) Sir William Harcourt
thereupon remarked that he would pro
ceed when the gentlemen opposite have as
sumed sufficient gravity" he then made
/ his motion.
/ The House rejected the amended addrss,