St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-01-09
HOW MUCH DID BLOUNT GET
SENATORS ANXIOUS TO KNOW WHIT
GROVER PAID HIM.
A SHARP SPAEsRING MATCH.
Hoar and German Wag Their
Tongues Vigorously on the Ha-
waiian Matter-Senator Davis,
of Minnesota, Will Enter the
Ring Wednesday-How the Se-
cret Fund Is Used.

OF minnesota, w III Enter tno
Ring Wednesday-How the Sc.
cret Fund Is Used.
WASHINGTON, Jan. S.-The Hawaiian
controversy wakes warmer from day to
day in the United States senate. Nearly
a score of resolutions have already been
introduced on the ''bject. but the end
is not yet in sight; after more than an
hours sharp discussion today the senate
adjourned, with the promise of pro-
longed discussion of the Frye resolu-
ton Wednesday, and possibility of MIR.
Turple's resolution, presented today,
being called up tomorrow. Senator
AOar succeeded in accentuating with
practical certainty the fact that COM
missioner Blount was paid from the
secret fund of the state department,
this being substantially admitted by
the Democrats. Senator Frye made an
Intellectual effort to secure vote on his
resolution declaring for non-interven-
ton by this government in Hawaiian
affairs, but there was strong objection,
and it went over until Wednesday,
when Mr. Davis. of Minnesota, will
speak on the subject. Senator Turpie,
of Indiana, presented resolution al
leging the ineXpediency of anneXing
Hawaii to the United States, but declar-
ing that the interference of foreign
governments with that country should
be regarded as hostile to this country,
and he will probably submit some re-
marks on the matter in few days.
The opening prayer of the chaplain
when the senate met today contained a
tender allusion to the bereavement of
Senator Cockrell. of Missouri, in the
recent loss of his wife. A memorial
from the legislature of Idaho was read,
praying for the dredging of the
SPOKANE RIVER
by the national government as cans
of lowering the level of the Ceur
d'Alene lake and reclaiming submerged
land.
Senator Sherman, of Ohio, presented
petition from Ohio eX-Solders. asking
for an investigation Of the pension bu-
reau.
Senator Dolph. from the committee
on public lands, reported favorably the
house bill for the relief of purchasers
of timber and stone lands under the act
of June 3, 1878, and subsequent aGend-
atOry acts. and it was passed.
Senator Chandler introduced a resolu-
ton directing the com mittee on judi
iary to inquire and report to the SEN
ate their opinion as TO the cases in
which the president may constitution
ally send to foreign nations agents,
representatives or commissioners with.
out the advice or consent of the senate,
and whether or not there was constitu-
tional authority for the appointment in
March last, without the advice and con-
sent of the senate, of Hon. James II.
Blount as commissioner to the Hawaiian
islands with the power conferred upon
him by the letter of appointment and
such other authorities as were given to
him."
He asked its Immediate consideration,
but Senator Gormon objected. The
chair laid before the senate the resolu-
tion of Senator Hoar, introduced last
week, calling upon the secretary Of the
treasury to report the
AMOUNT OF MONEY
which had been paid to James Fl.
Blount, and from what fund and by
what authority.
Il move to refer the resolution to the
committee OH foreign affairs" said Sem
ator German.
This is merely an inquiry as to how
much money was paid for certain pur-
poses," said Senator Roar.
ut is very extraordinary" said Sena-
tor German. Ito inquire as to the ex-
pendlture from a fund that has been
placed at the disposal of the department
of state III the nature itself OF secret
fund"
docs the senator understand" asked
Senator Hoar, that this money has
been paid from the secret fund?'
Il take it for granted that it has,"
That is merely what l want to know
by the resolution"
II assume that it is." rel terated Sen
atOr German.
in every administration, congress.
without the slightest hesitation, placed
at the disposal of the president suffi-
cent amount of money to conduct the
business of the department of state. and
he mas expended 1t without further in
qury."
Mr.. Hoar-I only ask that what has
been expended by the president for a
secret service shall be stated to the sen.
ate.
MIR. Gray, of Del aware-What objec
do you have in asking this information?
Il want to KNOW" replied Senator
Hoar, land L want the senate to know
and l want the country to know whether
this gentleman, whose mission was con-
ferred upon him without the consent or
ADVICE OF THE SENATE,
was treated in all respects as public
officer of the United States?"
''The senator from Massachusetts
should KNOW" said Mr.. German, "that
there is not any expenditure made by
the administration that the Democratic
party is not content to have the greatest
publicity given to it. But the senator
from Massachusetts knows very well
that the compensation paid this COM
missioner should not be paid from any
other fund than the secret fund. Like
some other matters, such as public
treaty, it is matter which should be
within the state department"
HAS the senator any reason to be-
lleve that this was secret eXpendi-
ture? inquired Mr.. Hoar. "For that
is all l wanted to know"
Mr.. Gorman-I have no more knoWl-
edge of it than the senator himself.
Mr.. Hoar-DoeS the senator believe
with emphasiSl that it was a secret
transaction?
Mr.. Gorman-I have never known a
case where agents of this sort were en-
ployed that they were compensated in
any other way than from this fund.
There is no other way to do it,
A deeper interest was suddenly de-
veIoped when Mr.. Morgan, Alabama,
chairman of the committee on foreign
relations, arose to participate in the dis
cussion.
II think" said the senator with great
deliberation, "that in dealing with this
question, the senate should be confident
with itself. The senate-h has referred to
the committee on
FOREIGN RELATIONS
an inquiry of a very broad character.
1t includes the whole subject of irregu-
larities, if any have occurred in the con-