Waterbury evening Democrat., 1894-06-09

OtttS StNStl hN ShCtNSN tf'lStbIl Iid could not even say that he occupied his rooms on that evening. There were, v he said, frequent conversations in my room in regard to sugar no doubt. That tho suhstanoo of what Mir GaSton said he overheard might have been said In some room Is undoubtedly true. I would say almost positively that at the date he names of anybody having made any offer, so far as the refining interest was con corned, of 401s, is out of tho question"
 He said therc had been no such offer at all. He could remember that MT. Have meyer had said time and again that this rate would not be satisfactory to the TO- fining interest
 Whom he was told that Mir Gaston had said that he had heard tho popping of champagne oorks in Mir. Terrell room and asked if he could identify the evening by that circumstance Mir. Terrell said he could not for the reason that there was no cham pagno there, but he had had Scotch whis ky and apollinaris there on two or three different evenings.
 Talked With Senator Isrice.
 MT. Terrell said that while he had talk cd with Senator BriCe many times about the sugar question he had never said a word to him on the subject that he would not have been willing for any one to hear, and that he had never been asked by the Sugar trust to use his influence with Brice to secure legislation in its interest.
 When Mir. Edwards account of the sup posed meeting between himself, Senators Brice and Smith, MT. Havemeyor and Mir. Reed was road to Mir Terrell, he said that no such thing had ever occurred at any place, but he remcmEered ono occasion when these gentlemen met in his room, and that was the evening on which Mir. Havemeyer had been discussing the sugar question with Mir. smith. Hc Brice, HavomCycr and Reed wero in tho room when a boy came to tho room, saying that Senator smith was down stairs and want cd to soc Senator Brice. Thon Senator Brice told the boy to tell him to come up. Senator Smith came up and said he had bcCn over to senator Bricc>S house, and not finding him home had come over to the hotel.
 Tho Chairman-What occurred while he was thcrc? Was sugar talked about?
 Mir Terrell-I cannot oven say that. It may havo been. l have no recollection of the conversation. There was nothing special in it to attract my attention or make any impression upon mo.
 The Chairman-Was there anything else talked about but sugar?
 Mir Terrell-lt was a running conver- sation. There were about five mon there.
 Tho Chairman-Did you have any apol- linaris water and Scotch whisky that cvcn- ing
 Mir. Terrcll-Oh, yes. Mir. Brico and I usually have some Scotch whisky and apollinars in the evening, whether at my house or at his house or my room. Of course 1 cannot say what was talked about not because am not willing to say, but because 1 do not recollect. Thore was nothing in the conversation.
 Senator smiths Visit.
 The Chairman-Was Mir. Havcmcyer in the midst of his explanation to Senator Bricc about sugar when Senator Smith came mp?
 Mir. Tcrrell--Oh, no. It had long passed off. That did not take over l6 minutes.
 Upon being pressed as to the signih canoe of Senator smith s presence at this meeting Mir. Terrell said;
 That was the only occasion that Sena- tor smith was in my room in the world. Ho did not come to sec mo then. It was tho purest accident in the world. It looks to mo as if there was s0rnc reporter sneak ing about, and when h2 found out there were senators in my room he went around and manufactured any story Inc pleased
 MT. Terrell denied the truth of the sto- " of the meeting of the re inrrs and plant CTS in q committee room ai the capitol ad- joining a room in which the finance com mittee was meeting on the sunday preccd- ing tho reporting of the tarin bill. He said he had never been at the capitol on Sunday and had never participated in such meeting on any day of tho week.
 Mir. Terrell said he had represented Mir. Havelneyer in Washington in the capacity of an attorney after Mir Havemcyer left Washington on the 10th of March, but he had never before been attorney or counsel for nnY of tho ncmh hCrS of the trust