The Indianapolis journal., 1894-03-14
Even Many of Those Who Voted for II
Were Astonished When the Re-
suit Was Announced.
ROSEBERY IN A DILEMMA
Possible Resignation of the New
Liberal Cabinet To-Day.
The Premier Largely TO Blame-His
Speech Explained by Morley and
Attacked by Redmond.

LONDON. March 1s.-The battle cry OF
Henry Labouchere, the Radical leader and
editor of Truth-"The Lords must co.
rang throughout the House of Commons
this evening, figuratively speaking. While
the Queens speech was being discussed
the noted editor arose and offered as an
amendment TO the address the proposition
that the House OF Lord be abolished. It
was opposed by the government-that is,
by Premier Rosebery's representative in the
House-but to no purpose. When the
amendment was put 10 a vote 1t was
adopted by 147 to 145 amid cheering and
excitement. Another incident of the eveT-
ing was the issuing Of a manifesto by the
National Reform Union which says that it
is useless to hope that popular reforms
can be achieved. even by a Liberal gov
ernment, unless the powers and privileges
of the House Of Lords, which enables a
selfish and irresponsible clique to frustrats
and mutilate such measures" be curtailcd
or abolished. The National Reform Union
therefore calls for determined efforts TO
establish the self-government of the Brit
ish people upon truly democratic basis
and by the abolition of the House Of Lords.
When the House of Commons convened
this evening the Chief Secretary for Ireland.
the Rt. Hon. John Morley. said that the
references of the Rt Hon. A. J. Balfour,
the Conservative leader in the House. to tha
evicted tenants savored of vindictiveness
and reminded the House that Liberal
Unionist members had declared in favor
of the reinstatement OF the evicted tenants
upon reasonable terms. Referring to the
conversion of England to home rule. Mr..
John Morley said that this world be both
easy and rapid. but he added, the govern
ntent did not hold that an English ma ior-
ity was necessary in order to obtain home
rule for Ireland. Continuing, Mr.. Morley
said that there was no fear that Lord
Rosebery would do anything to vitiate or
depart from the home rule policy.
WHAT ROSEBERY MEANT TO SAY.
Mr.. Morley then referred to- Lord Rose
berys much commented upon speech OF
yesterday evening in the House Of Lords.
saying that Lord Rosebery in stating that
before home rule was conceded 10 Ireland
the English majority must be convinced Of
it's necessity, meant to say that the home
rule bill would meet the same fate as be-
fore unless the peers are convinced that
the feeling of the English people favored it.
(Cheers) Mr.. Morley said that the govern
ment not blind TO the fact that the
majority of English commoners were op-
posed to home rule but il was an impossi-
bic proposition to distinguish between the
English and the imperial majority, adding:
'I, however, do not wonder at the vigt-
lance, suspicion and jealousy exhibited by
the Irish members I'm spite of their conf
dence in good faith, when cOwardly
rumors in regard to dissension in the Cab
met are circulated, as they were yesterday.
The honorable member for the HaTb0r di-
vision of Dublin (Mr. Timothy harrington
yesterday found fault with our not Instant
ly repeating the coercion act, but ii is evil
dent that it would be a waste of time to
introduce such a bill"
Mr. Harrington here interposed and quoted
Mr.. Morley's speech, in which the Chief Sec
retary for Ireland said that the first duty OF
the Liberals on coming into power would
be to repeal that bill. loud Parnellite
cheers.)
Mr.. Morley continued, remarking that the
government had to choose between bill to
repeal the coercion act and an evicted ten
ants bill. and added: ut is impossible to
trace hard and fast line regarding the data
when home rule will be introduced. We
frankly admit that in the case of a bill of
such constitutional magnitude we are bound
TO prosecute it with all dispatch which the
circumstances allow, having regard for the
time of the session. 1t is premature 20 ex-
pect the government TO give cut-and-dried
statement as TO whether the home rule bill
will be reintroduced, amended or not
amended, or whether dissolution viii first
be brought about without another home rule
bill being passed. The government. how
ever, is composed of men of honor. who Will
never finch from or cease TO adhere TO the
home rule policy which Mr.. Gladstone
pressed upon u.s. (Cheers)
SCORED BY REDMOND.
Mr.. John Redmond. the Parnellite leader,
said that he sympathized with Mr.. Morley's
humiliating position in explaining Lord
Rosebery's utterances, and added that he
must express dissatisfaction at the recent
declarations of the ministers. His friends
recognized that a general election was
necessary before the home rule bill could
be passed and were afraid that dissolu-
ton would be indefinitely postponed and
that home rule would be quietly shelved
The leadership of the home rule policy, ac-
cording To Mr.. Redmond, had passed from
Mr. Gladstone to men In whom they Uhe
Parnellites) had no strong faith, and whose
declarations were halting and ambiguous.
Continuing. Mr. Redmond said that II was
clear from Lord Rosebery's statement and
from Sir William Harcourts statement that
the home rule bill would not be reintroduced
in this Parliament, and that a dissolution
would not occur until the whole Newcastle
programme had been sent up to the House
OF Lords.
Mr. Redmond. was that the government
should declare its intentions. as its present
position was absolutely intolerabe. IL
not merely that home rule had been shelyed
anu 0tSSOlulIOH htutuilittiS FtSklSiirAs bul
they were told that they would not get
home rule until a majority or the English
members were in its eavor. Lord Rose
bery's speech. he said. entirely changed tha
aspect OF home rule. IL Lord Rosebery's
argument was right then the House OF
Lords was justified in rejecting home rule
(prolonged opposition cheeTs) and ali the
late talk and agitation against the House
of Lords must be insincere. The spiriS OF
Lord Rosebery's declaration vas insulting
and humiliating TO Ireland Lori Rose
berry had referred to home rule as loca