The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1894-09-12
WERNER'S
new STORY.

excused. The watch and chain were
handed by Mr.. Goff to Senator LeNow,
who said he would take care OF them;
In answer to the Chairman.s question.
starn said he did not remember that
Hsniey had ever pawned more than one
watch at his shop, but would examine
his index book and ascertain. -,
Henry Kramer was then called. lie
said he was a collector for George King
Ter a. Co. the brewers. of Ninety-sixth
street and Third avenue.
Trafy,c in Saloon Licenses.
"Did you ever make an application for
q saloon license in the name OF harl
Werner or Gustave Washer?
such a license for the place at FitSh
street and Avenue b. applied for the
license in my own name. hau an IN
terest in the place as an agent Oh 'he
"That is common custom among
brewers to have agents for this pur-
poser"
"They 20 to the Excise Board and
make application for licenses for sa-
looms in various parts OF the city
livery often, yes. .
The witness explained that the license
was in his own name, ana as soon az
the manager of the place PAID over 70
the brewery a certain amount the IL
cense was transferred to him. Inc
business in this instance was to be
conducted by Washer. -
brewers of investing their money. Inc
license was held as security. ..,,.
ibid Washer ever have any trouble
with the police?" inquired Mr.. Cor.
"Yes, about four weeks ago. His place
was closed, because Washer got out
card in which he held himself out as
Captain and told him the place did not
belong to. Washer, and ne sho"eu me
what Captain was IT."
"Didn't you say to the Captain that
you would like to see any captain IN
New York close a place of yours so
long as you were doing legitimate
mo. sir; I simply told him that the
business was not owned by Washer.
"Didn't you tell Washer that he ought
/, not to fight the police?'
"Didn't you say you couldn't afford to
fight the police on account or your other
places In the precinct?
but didn't you know you had a right
to run your place even though Mas1er
Yes: but the captain told me as long
as Washer was there he would nave TO
close the place, He wouldn't believe
SWhy did you close them"
II didn't want, to have any trouble
"Now we have it at last. That will
do, said MIR. Con.
Karl Werner was then called. He said
had taken the name OF GustaNe washer
in order to conduct his business.
"You testified here before thas you hau
paid money to the police for protection,
and also that you had kept a dlsorderly
hoMse?" inquired Mr.. Con-,
Mr.. Con then stated that in a recently
published interview with Mr.. Wellmah
there had been very serious mis-state,
ment of facts. This was to the erect
that when Warner had testified before
tae Committee that he was aci ,ba win n
ness to correct this mistake and to set
Mr.. Wellman and others right.
The specification, based on Werner 8
Cross in his trial by the Commissioners;
stated that at various times IN Aprli
and May 1892, the Captain or MS Warn
Werner, while he was keeping DIS.
orderly house in Delaney street; IL
y was claimed by Mr.. Welman that Wer-
ner was in State Prison at this time.
but Mr.. Goff read from his testimony
before the Committee to show that ne
had not 80 testified. . ,.,,
The charge was therefore untrue, am,
was calculated, II not contradicted, to
discredit the testimony OF witnesses
st would have been better ir MI,
Nwellman had studied the record more
carefully" observed Chairman LeXow'
.'bef6re preparing his specifications
mir. NWellman had IA copy OF al tne
testimony taken before the Committee
a1 Werner said he had not been inter
viewed or questioned by any oihcial IN
against Capt. Cross. He was In IN, ths
Tombs at the time. 1t was not In 1882,
but in 1893, that he had paid money for
pfoteation, and the charge in the ,specif-
cations were all wrong. In 1892 he was
in prison, and had said SO,
'jThe dates running all through the
speeisatiS@ns 81, agsinst Cant saG MIR GrosS o IRE
Werner went on, to describe TINS ar
rangement with the Ringler Brewery
and how they kept the license as a
mortgage on the place.
The police did not know him when ne
took the place, and nobody in the neigh
borhood suspected that he had been a
witness before the Lexow COMMITTEE
His barkeeper, Hugh Mccormick; how
ever, he thought, found out and gave
him away
Carl werner's New story.
"eTn days after took the saloon, one
Sunday evening. two ward detectives
came in. one of them was Cohen,
had given the bartender special IN
structions not to let any one in unless
he knew him. AS soon as the two men
came in ! say they were detectives
and said: For Gods sake what die
you let those men in for? They are
detectives.
How did you know they were detec
''Why. could tell the minute saw
their feet"
Anything peculiar about detectives
feet?" asked Mr. Gon, in tone OF sur
They usually wear about No. las an,
have thick soles," replied the witness.
The result was that both Werner an,
his barkeeper We're arrested, and n
had been in prison ever since. no
being able to get bail. The officers win
arrested him in court the next day SAT-
that Werner had tried to bride then
and that made matters worse,
1T was lie. ! didn't offer anythin
"Was anything said then about yo
having been witness before the LeNoN
Committee
mot then, but three days before tn
arrest my hookkccper tola me he ha
been 10 see Capt Cross, and that tn
Captain had told him he knew all ubou
me. that ] had been witness before IN
LeSow Committee. and had ba
record"
Capt. Cross had sent for me- hu.
had not seen him. ! went 10 the static
once, but he was OUT From wllat n
barkeeper told me-, | believe | was a.
rested simply because | mad testified p
fore the Committee"
Werner said he was not arrested tina
Sunday, but the following day. lie n
ceived the order to so to the station
see Capt. Gross, and two detectives I'D
been sent after him.
''Didn,t you see Capt. Cross about YOU
license?'
Yes. the week before my arrest,
told me to close up, as had no licens
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