Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1894-01-19
COLLEGE CHAMPION.
PftsL SsnbOrn, Of Logan, Again 10
The Rescue,
ANSWERS TO his OPPONENTS
He Thinks Some OF their Arguments
and Methods are Unuorihy.-Nhat
the College Has Accomplished.
Edl,or De.eret Aelen

drawn out four replies, either eKplana
tory in character or an aggression upon
the Agricultural College Of Utah.
shall hasten to correct any error that
Imay have made In regard to Pfesl'
dent Kipgsbufy's position, and win
pleasure when investigation demon
stra.es my error. The statement was
based upon letter heard read by 4
member oftheAssemblywhlch asked fol
an expression OF his opinion In regard 1
union, and 10 ths knowledge that hu
had cent other letters 10 parties In thu
Territory, and also % the assertion
OF Irresponsible citizen Of hhli
Lake City that lao knew DR.. kiuRs-
bury was publicly for union, privately
fer union at Salt Lake CITY. There
seems 10 bo IN much misfortune within
the University circles NJ 10 the poaitlon
of each other in the matter and the at
tltude OF the University on this ques.
ton, as there 10 In its knowledge OF the
history Of union colleges IN otherstsles.
Prot Montgomery OF the University Il
Out with an article advislng union NJ
Salt Lake City, or not NJ all; others IN
private have urged the same location,
while tho faculty over when Dr.
Kingshufy piesides frequently ATTACKS
the Agricultural College, Indicating
n deslTe 10 either ruin Il or absorb u.
My statement that this Institution
could absorb ths University, minus ~
preparatory ana normal departments,
with little extra cost, 10 not demon
siratlon that his statement that sOO,OOO
could be saved by union, was correct,
" 4
claimed by tho University could quite
largely be- absorbed by classes here, but
Of course not fully. In short, my
statement IL perfectly consistent.
The cavalier ease with which he
alnKs away the experience Of all other
statss and returns 20 the blank assertion
that union collegcs,( naming Wisconsin,
whose professor Of agriculture openly
discussed separation, and Cornell,
which IL the agricultural college Of
New York; are more successful than
separate colleges, surprises more than
II lmpfessea me.
Professor Marshall uses tive columns
in discussing questions that have not |
the remoteut relation TO union, evident. !
ly for the purpose Of attack upon this /
Institution. Let us rejoice with him
At the capacity OF the professors And |
the elevation Of the studies OF the |
Univenity. II Ia several decades old;
ours three years.
The UniVemity IL In u city Of we'll
organized high schools, from which
n draws nearly half its students.
Ours draws from the industrial
glasses and from country co nstitu.
sncy, educated by schools but poorly
organized. Before an intelligent audi
enoe this question needs no argument.
We must begin at the point NJ which
we ind the common schools. NOlfalr.
minded man can compare this essen.
tiAl Of Ambulance In "a aparurly settled
Territory with those Institutions Of old
and settled states. Tho fact II that
many teachers OF tho common schools
come hero who cannot tquareIy pass
admission TO our freshman year ana
cannot pass the closing examinations
OF the preparatory year. This IN true
OF students who come from the great
majority OF our country schools.
We are not where We want 10
be, nor where We ARE anxious 10 be,
but where We must DO aud where
We are doing the public the greatest
good, and can defend with that public
our position, as II IL created our OF
sympathy for the children OF the Ter.
ritory.
Furthermore, our Ambulance oondl.
iion Ia but about thrce-fourlhs Of one
year below that VI Kansas, lows,
Maine and other states having strong
industrial colleges. by placing harder
work upon the students We graduate
them from the college course Al Just
about the point they graduate them In
the strong agricultural colleges VI other
states. We are watching carefully the
public schools with the anxious hope
and determination 10 elevate our btanu-
ard rs fast M possible, but are deter.
mined TO do for the public the bes,
work we eau. Prof. Marshall objects
because l class our technical agrlcul.
turAl work as one OF tho strongest
courses In the country. He miAinlet.
prets the word technical which refers
to agricultural instruction or technical
work OF the agricultural oourse. My
claim II correct believe. II not, Pho 4.
Marshall Ia free TO delight himself IN
dispfOying II. l will not object.
Another champion and probably o
the faculty OF tue University, write,
under the mask u lAhD with murn
less fairness aud oandoT than char @
teriEe PROT. harahall's article aud gives
currency 10 untruths. Ha incluies lu
the cost OF the agricultural education OF
this institution the $4,000 given 20 re.
search, a sum that the law iorbids 10 be
used for teaching and which must be
applied for investigations In the direct
interest OF the tanners themselves, lie
also includes Ia the estimate the entIr,
sums given for new buildings and nm.
pRrAIus, as though he expects au ipsti.
tuition but three years old 10 do "A
broad work without buildings. Figures
thus used, apparently used with Inc
direct purpose Of giving the public
n false impression, are basely
used. Our number 0f students lasl
year was 1916. The number VI the fac.
ully was fifteen, five az whom
were partly employed inths ne.
search department The salaries
actually paid for teaching was A..
$500, or for $3.50 students 8iG. ~ each.
Instead Of S2i5.bl that"UtanU declares
II costa TO educate each student. only
about one-hith 40 much ~ no stntrF.
and One-ihitd "a much az be finds II
costa To educate one at tho University.
OF course when man writes thus
unfairly It's Of no use 10 follow himnnv
further, for 1 exp poet To extract puthIn,
genuine from him or his figures. its
trRducing Of this sort that mas been
carried ON for the last three years t.,t
IL The bahiH OF my objection 10 the attn
tude Of the University towards the a..
TioultuTal college. In turn have M III
ing TO say against the capaLility
OF the gentlemen at the Uulyef.itv ~
Il ! nj ~ ~ a