The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1894-04-29

say IT, that have not the slightest idea
that either OF these Christian ministers
and gentlemen intended 10 state anything
that they did not believe to be strictly
true. SO far as either Is guilty OF any
inaccuracy of statement, /, OF course,
concede and assert that 1t was uninten-
tional, and all this / believe and assert
10 be equally true Of all the other Chris
tian gentlemen concerned In this unfor-
tunate matter All that desire 10 impress
on this community Is that Or. Carmich-
ael had strong ground for inferring what
he del infer and believe and state. And
further, | think ] shall be able to de-
monstrate that his differences were In
the main sound and right. Neither he nor l
have the slightest idea of claiming that
he had better opportunities than me
president and secretary OF the Christian
Association or Of the chairman or the
committee Of arrangements OF the Moody
meeting for becoming acquainted with
the inside history of these matters. IN
deed his opportunities were not equal
20 theirs, and I presume that he, Ike
myself, would be willing 10 accept IN
qualhedly any statement OF fact whlcn
any of these brethren have made or
shall make and, rather than accuse mem
Of intentional prevaricaton, TO admit
ments made by them.
But all this does not affect the ques-
ton whether or not Or. Carmichael y
nearer right than HIS Christian brethren
on the other side In the practical ana
substantial truth OF his statement. LII
us see as to this: -
Take the question Of the "invitalon,
the auspices" under which Nr. Moody
came to Richmond.
Or. Carmichael says the Young Men
Christian Association brought him here'
DR.. Hatcher says the ministers broug II
him: but the facts are. as DR.. Hatcher
substantially admits. that The Young
Mems Christian Association first sent
q committee for Mr.. Moody, ana, hha-
ing he would only come upon the lhFl-
tation OF the ministers Of Richmond ne
Young Mems Christian Association I'M
medately set TO work 10 procure ne
invitation to be sent him by ne MUS
ters. This. / think, no one VIII deny.
Possibly too the Young Mems Christian
Association. not being willing TO assume
financial responsibility for the meetings
and being DESTROYS that the chi-cnes
should assume II, deemed II best tna'
the invitation should be extenIeu lh the
name of the ministers and the chufches'
II / desire the presence OF a person
in the city. and find he viii not come
upon my invitation, but only upon 'lIdl
of some other special party ana Ifo-
cure him to be invited by his Jdfly'
have 1 not Drought him? Am not re-
sponsible for bringing him? Is not any
good or any evil resulting from ms COM
ing proDerty attributable 10 me-to my
action? Is not mine the credll, or ihlhc
the blame?
AS to the liquidation Of the debt being
the inspiration Of the thought OF sehulns
for Mr.. Moody Or. Hatcher seems 10
deny everything beyond this measre al
mission 1T Is true that TIE Young Aeh
Christian Association did have desire
and even a hope that Mr.. Moody might
use his great power I'm assisting them TO
roll off the great burden Of their great
debit" But. the following facts. that can
not and will not be disputed, stand unner
and support the broader and stronger
statement OF Or. Carmichael
Some time before Mr.. Moody came. the
president of the Young Mems Christian
Association in urging prominent gentle
man Of this city TO take a place upon
the directory, stated TO him that the
Association hoped to get Mr.. Moody 10
come here and lift their DEBT. ABOUT
that time. or a little later. the directory
discussed and formally adopted the dis
tinct plan of inviting Mr.. Moody TO come
here TO address a single public meeting,
10 be called for the sole purpose OF rais-
ing this debt and actually appointed a
committee TO carry out this plan. which
committee actually went 10 Washington
and saw Mr. Moody. II, as ! am told
by the President Of the Association,
whom | am proud TO claim as my friend,
that committee did not actually mention
the matter of the debt 10 Mr.. Moody,
but took the responsibility Of modifying
the plan adopted by the directory, ! can
only say this action was credible to their
Christian conscience and prudence; and
if the president says. as l understand
him to do that he did not make and
could not have made a statement in
consistent with these facts before the
meeting of the Episcopal clergy, which
Or. Carmichael attended then | presume
Or. Carmichael would be as ready as |
20 admit that he may have misunder-
stood him. l regret that several efforts
and appointments by these two gentlemen
TO meet each other within the last few
days have accidently. or provdentially,
failed; but il is a matter Of no moment,
for we are discussing this misunderstand-
ing i'm the spirit of Christian charity and
with no idea of bitter elimination or re-
elimination, or covert suggestion OF in
territorial falsehood.
Enough has been said TO prove that the
Y. NJ. G. 4. did a great deal more than
Indulge a desire or even a hope that
Mr.. Moody might use his great power in
assisting them to liqudate their debt"
Lastly. as to the work of the meetings.
Dr. Carmichael says the y. NJ. 9. a.
was responsible for il; Or. Hatcher says
the committee Of arrangements were. No
one of us doubts that such committee
was appointed, and that it acted in the
premltes but this does not initiate
against the patent fact and feature of
the entire revival, that the Y. NJ. G. A.,
which had taken the initial step i'm the
matter continued TO be the inspiring
soul and. in the view Of the practical
people Of this city. the directing body
of the movement. It's building was the
official headquarters. Every inquiry meet
ing was held there. every important
paper issued thence.
/ presume il will not be questioned that |
the circulars" and "cards" were the |
working point if ! may so say-and ! |
say it without any semblance of "A sheer |
of all the practical machinery OF the re- |
vival, as they were also the initial point. |
or at least the point Of outbreak, Of this |
misunderstanding.
DR.. Carmichael stouty maintains trat |
the Young Mems Christian Association |
is practically responsible for the circular. |
Says he, in his letter to Mr.. Arthur al
ready quoted-and IL is the first PROPOSE
ton Of his statement, the head and front
of his charge: "You say that the Young
Mems Christian Association had 10th
ing to say to the matter ABOUT which you
write | know to the contrary. ! have
filed their circular about souls TO chow
any one who doubts In this matter. 1t