The sun., 1894-09-11

tice OF the police in relation TO stolen ROodt
found IN pawn shops. The direction OF the ex
animation pointed to an EFFORT on the part o
Mr. tiniT tn show that the police, or At least th'
Headquarters detectives. protect the Interests
OF the pawnbrokers at the expense of the right
ful owners Of stolen property which has beer
pawnrd by thieves. The witness FIRST admitted
thrt IL was not an uncommon thing for owner!
of stolen property to pay - redeem their prop
erty from the hands Of pawnbrokers Then h'
admitted that such was frequently the case and
next shat T. was tho ordinary process by which
stnlcp property wa. recovered by owners, aud
then Mr.. tinfT asked:
Q.-Is II not a fac; landowners have invariably
to pny to recover stolen property from pawn
broSers2 A.-No.
V.-Weli. i-. u not the inyariabe. rule where
you arc the officer In n CaseF ~ No.
e.. Isn't tia fact that the ileadQuarters de
brokers that the owners of stolen property will
be nndc ~ pay FOR their property found In pos
session u The iawnbrokers' A.-No; isnot the
The whole committee took II hand at this
point and harried the witness to their heatts'
content In IN effort to learn whether there was
an understanding between the detectives and
the pnwnbrohcrs.
row 10 RECOVER STOLEN GOODS.
The witness said that complaiDants whose
property had been discovered in pawn shops
were informed by the detectives that they could
recover their property by = SUIT H. replevin.
agreed to pay the pawnhrgkc' all advances, and
they also pnid Sergeant Bird Tor sending out
ppScr,y lost 5 mER SrS was printed he
line, Owners will pay all advances,
MIR. Con listened with q pleased sn,ile as four
or five Of the lawyers on the committee worried
the witness together. and broke in with. $50 1t
is the system OF the Police department to make
owners pay for properly stolen from thcm ana
pawned In utlier words. the police urOtect the
Interests OF the pawn broker rather ,hah the in
terests OF "a robbed .tizen."
1hon having got his own testimony in on the
record, Mr. Gof reverted to the question Of the
O. Did YOU usc to have another watch. Ser
Reant ~ had.
Y. Where is 1t now; Al pawne,l It In
Storms, in rhrty-ilrSt street.
DENIES THAT MNALLY GAVE HIM a WATCH.
Q.-Where Is the watch Jimmy McNally gave
you A. lie gave me none:
Q.-What, not on New Tears ever A.. He
a.. Come Sergeant, what did you do with it
A. HI. gave me none.
fore th.ar Alright or nine months ago.
Q.Whv did You pawn III Al was hard up.
oQuWhat's your salaryt Any salary Is
What is your wife's namor A.-Rosc.
Q.-Rose Hanley. chr Then your real estate
is IN the name OF Rose Hanley: Al have no
Q..SW6at, you on the Headquarters stafr ton
Q.S.Know @ "" you u McSaiiy wcllf A.NSo better
Odd you ever arrest him? Ayes, on
q. Was he convlctcd2 A.-No. his case went
no further than the police court.
Q.--On whose complaint wi1 he arrested
A. Byrnes was then chief detective. and he
gave out orders that all men suspected of deal
Ing In green goods should bc brought liz.
At this point Mr.. Goff made another of the
sudden switches which were characteristic OF
lis examination OF this witness.
SERGEANT HASLEY's HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE.
Q.-By ,he way. Sergeant YOU have no obiec-
tion t. our sending a maa 70 your apartments to
look through them A.-None Whatever
3.-oH, Sy H the way, o sergeant, where sot you
those lamps I: A.-My wife bought them.
aoG Ion h know when m nqT hsTs , give her money
, Q.-Yes, see, those lamps are the kind that
have pcttic6Gts u.s. on them IA: A:nfss. s .,o ,,
here the one with the. yellow ,petticOatr We
Just want. sergeant. little exhibition OF artistic
decoration to cheer up the Investigation. A.-If
my wife lets anything out of the apartments
Dwell. we'll have to overcome her objec-
tion IL she has any. Al am making no objec-
tion.
Q-Ro you Eemembsr the nigh. yCg went to
What, he n thief and you call on him so
at that time TO the knowledge of the witness.
Hanlcy had not gone to call on him socially, but
81 & Hy b Sen he saed o1
I here were two ward men in the room who left
but the next day they arrested
Q.-What violation of the law did YOU expect
to learn Of from him 4! Amy he might give
mt.
o.-wes he stool pigeon? A.--No.
Q.-Did you ever get such Information from
''ler oWHyT NN BecaSss il " wonId Show the
sources OF our information and deter Others we
depend on from giving US such information.
genius and skill ~ not hing but u dependence on
you get from thieves A.-Yes, sir.
LExow CALLS T. BLACKMAIL.
Chairman Lexow-Don't pawnbrokers violate
fh.a llx In nj na
A.Not II they know them To be such, think.
Q.-Does the Police Department exercise its
influence i,d,ae to compel gawnbrokers to give up
Q.-Does the Department aid the pswnbrokers
to Dlackmail people who have been robbed 4.
1t Is NJ blpckmail for Il pawnbroker to get
back the money he has advanced.
but he Is permitted 10 charge 30 per cent.
year interest TO cover Just such risks"
senator OConnoT then questioned the wit
ness, and wrousht himself into quite u fever in
trying to maze the witness understand that IL
was bad for the police to protect ihe interests
OF the pawnbrOkers instead of the robbed citizen.
The senator cited the postal cards which in
formed the pawnbrokers that the person who
had been robbed OF the articles sought would
pay all advances as a specimen or the help the
Police Department gave the pawnbrokers. 1t
was evident that the witness was quite honest
In his BELIEF that there was nothing WORTHY of
Department to tho pawnhrOkers IN this class
Of business. The witness admitted TO Mr.. Coz
Ses IONS say on the bench that It is the right OF
an owner to take his stolen property from
Inen MT. ton SAID: let you.
instead OF aiding the owner in a right which you
have heard a Judge declare, aid the pawnbroker.
Is not that blacknR'li'
WHY, no, SIR" said Hanley in surprise.
Q.--Well. what is itI Att Is tho owners op-
ton TO pay rather than go TO the trouble Of a suit
In replevin.
q. tIr. Goff lost his temper)-Is it not fact
hat you get half of tho money compIainants are
Induced 70 pay To pawnhrokerS 10 recover their
stolen property A.-NO. sir.
Q.-Is it not notorious that the police divide
.ylth the pawnbrokers In such gaymentsi A
No, sir.
Q.--I knew you would answer no. and you will
answer no To the next question, won't you A.
i don't know.
WOULD NOT REFUSE COMPENSATION.
Dwell, did YOU ever receive anything in
snch casesf Al may have received small
rompe nsAtions,
u.-FrOm whOmy A.-Well. I'd rather re- |
,eiye from the COM plaiRsnt than from the 9 pawn
broker.
This reply Of the witness caused a sensation
End confused babel of questions from the COm- |
during which the witness was heard |
-O correct himself and deny thai he had ever re-
srlged anything from paYHbToker.
In answer 70 question by Chairman Lexow |
he witness said hat he had received small |