The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1894-08-28
CRIMMINS
AS A WITNESS.


and Crimmins, House would have to
NO lawyer would dare to refuse to
answer II court asked such ques-
tion," said Mr.. wellman.
well, Messrs. Commissioners, with,
out any disrespect for you. will tell
I proposed to prove by any witness l
should dare TO refuse and should have
no fesr Of the consequences"
Wallace testified like the others, and
Mr. House called the names OF a dozen
other reputable builders. VINO were In
court to testify. This was in order to
that he could not find two builders who
had not paid blackmail.
Mr.. wellman said: II object to these
people coming here to testify to the
things they haven't done. and the things
they wouldn't give away II they had
done them
This brought a vigorous protest from
House. who declared II shame for the
Commissioners to permit Mr.. wellman
to thus assail citizens who stood higher
In their profession than he did in his.
There was a murmur. then n rumble,
and then a small roar OF approval from
the mouths. hands and feet of the 100
people, mostly policemen. who filled the
Spectators benches.
9 President Martin threatened to clear
the room. The builders went away. and
MIR. House called Patrick White. of 20
Chrystie street, 10 the witness stand
White said he was employed four
ford. X Bayard street. including the
three months when Inspector Nc
Laughlin was the captain In command
Of that precinct. and Burns was his
ward detective.
White said BILLY" Hoyt was Mrs.
Eanford's partner In the business. He
had seen Burns try to get into the house
and fail. There were no lights in the
cioEed and the doors locked;
the house" said White '..It was my
knew him to be a frierd. i had key
TO the basement door.
''Off,cer Burns and another man came
g the house nearly every night In
they were in citizens dress. and / never
knew that they were policemen. | told
them there was nobody In the house
and that II was closed"
White Identified Pntrolman Nugent as
the man who came with Burns, and
said that he refused to let them In
simply because he didn't know them.
When, he ,wasn't. there another man
~ The witness explained that monkey
Jumper" was the technical name given
70 the watchers outside the disorderly
houses.
Mr.. House next asked about a man
named Graham, who, lived at Mrs.
Sanford's early In 1889 and had IS Zoo In
any man had ever died In her house.
When Mr.. wellman objected, Mr.. House
said he was going to show that Graham
s BAY Street house n in ,na' cab with t Mrs e
Sanford and woman named o,Brien
and went up, to Billy, Hoyts Williams;
bridge roa,d.house; that g Graham han de. died
that Mrs. Sanford was flush with
money.
IN nnlS iN
hearsay. and his testimony was ruled
"Now, isn't it a fact" Mr.. House asked.
''that Mrs. Sanford paid for that house
z "a Bayard street. and was able to take
up those notes before they were due
with the money she got from that dead
This was ruled out and by Mr.. We'll
mans advice, SO was Commissioner Shee-
hans question as To whether Mrs. San
f5ri had lots of money after Graham's
disappearance.
Under a hot cross-eXaminatlon White
said he had been six years In New York,
spen; two months as subway lsborer
at the Fourth Ward Hotel. where Old
friendly" the ripper; Peddled peanut.
and bananas and had done little Of
White got along very well until Mr.,
Wellman asked him how he knew who
ssnfords house. " Il he had had never worked
there before and didn't know who were
and who were not customers.
White was stuck by this question. but
he maintained that Rhoda paid him 81
q day and his board to act as monkey
Jumper and let In only friends OF the
house.
y To Mr. House White said that Mrs.
Sanford told MIN that he must he very
careful; that she must keep the house
closed, because Capt. Mclaughlin would
not allow her to keep open;
Murray. White said that, he took a note
from .'silver-Dollar' Smith to T. f.
Crimmins. the subway contractor. when
he got his Job in the trench.
~ Mr.. Wellmsn asked questions faster
than White could answer them. Then
Mr.. House protested. President Martin
tried to call House down.
''I'll not be called down." said House
'.I am here. not by the courtesy OF
this Board. but by right.
y shall make objections when l like
and you CAM, make me do otherwise
well. we'll see about that" said Mr.
SWeii. then. we'll see about that" re
torted Mr.. House.
After recess Mr.. House put in evldenc,
= q record showing that Burns was de
Mclaughlin was in command there from
June " 70 April 10, 1882.
Isidor Kranschaar, the Division stree
dry-goods merchant, from whom Mrs
Schubert claims she borrowed so
towards the $500 to pay the demands o
Burns in behalf of Capt. Mclaughlin
testified. as in the Cross case, that h.
never loaned Mrs. Schubert one dollar.
When Kranshaar was ON the stant
In the Cross case he said he would looi
up his friend Jacob" To-day he toll,
Mr.. Wellman he could not find him
Mr.. Wellnlan got him to describe Jacol
again. and then asked him II he woull
be surprised u told that jacob" VIII
baiied Mrs, ,cchubsrt vas PAULINE
Jacobe, a woman.
Eraushaar said he would be, for Jaco
u was man.
OH Joseph Le.i. the muney-lender
, again testified that he loaned no none
to fhoda sanford as she has testified.
Frank MuiliGs. - J. Third rect. t,.'
used that ne knew ilNndh Stafford fou
E.t%. ana Bib hoy, tao years a
khols'S bdsi.Ess partner.
h- Was az E'e,htri hallway fireman
ans his ~ rt.i.rart. Daisy smith, was u
Inmate Ot Mrs. SiItrr3'S house durin
the Mclaughlin Buns administration
TIE. house had the appearance Of bein
empty, aud wds Chased AMI dark an
Mullins said he had t. get the IN nike
jumper u opea the basement door.
tn house WAS doing no business q
all. because Capt Mclaughlin was $
strict,' said Mullins.
'Humph! Ana you want us to believ
thatr mat house Wa not allowed to q