The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1894-06-05
SQUARE DEAL ON SUGAR.
Democratic Senators Not SugaIed by
the Trust.

/ Chairman Gray Lays Before the Sem
ate the Report of the Testimony of
Secretary Carlisle and Senators Nc
Pherson, Harris, Jones, Mills, Vest
and voorhees, The Testimony
Proves the Falsity of the Insinua-
tions Afoat.
Washington, June SENATOR Gray,
chairman of the sugar trust Investigation
committee, laid before the Senate to-day
the Official stenographic report of the
testimony given by Senators Mcpherson,
Harris, Jones' Mills, Vest, voorhees,;
Secretary Carlisle and Repre-
sentative Warner, a synopsis of
which has been already given
in these dispatches. Mr.. Mcpherson
said that as far as he knew, There was
no truth in any part of the charges pub
Iished concerning Secretary Carlisle and
the doings of the sugar trust. For him
self, he said he disagreed with the COM
mittee as to the sugar schedule. He OPP
posed the sugar schedule presented by
the committee and did a little raving over
that himself, but never saw Secretary
Carlisle do any of it. At one time, Mr..
Mcpherson said, he laid before the com
mittee the views of his friend, Mr.. Mat
thieson, member of the sugar trust,
but did not indorse them; on the contrary
he opposed them and voted against the
committees position. The witness said
that Mr.. Searles, secretary of the Amer
lean Sugar Refining Company, came to
his house and argued that a proposition
offered by Mr.. Mcpherson would give the
sugar refners nothing. Mr.. Searles was
the only person he ever saw on the sub
ject.
SENATOR MILLS STORY.
Senator Mills denied any knowledge of
the statements made in the papers, and
said Secretary Carlisle was never before
the committee while he was working
with il. The letter from Secretary Car
isle introducing Mr.. Havemeyer was a
simple letter of introduction, but Mr..
Mills said he declined to see him.
the duty came to be put on sugar,
Mr. Mills said Il was the first
one of the three to propose a duty on
sugar. 1t was an unwelcOme thing to me
to do it, but | regarded The bill as not
producing sufficient revenue and some
thing had to be done. That was one rea-
son. Another reason was, as YOU gentle
y y
putting sugar on the dutiable list as
revenue article, and ] told them: We
have got to have more money than the
Wilson bill makes, and we will have to
put duty on sugar. | do not want, | do
not like to go backward. / would rather
have not taken sugar off the dutiable list,
and put it on the free list. 1t has been
done, and l do not like to put anything
back on the dutiable list do not care
whether it is a revenue article-to take it
from the free list and put it back on the
dutiable list. | said: We have got
to do it, and you may as well
make up your minds about it.
We have to have more money"
Mr.. Jones testified. that before the last
amendments to the sugar schedule were
reported there was some talk of making
the duty on refined sugar 40 per cent. in
stead of one-eighth of a cent There
was some talk" said Mr.. Jones. sin the
presence of Mr.. Carlisle, Senator Vest
and me of making a schedule of 40 or
As per cent. and | asked MIR. Carlisle to
prepare schedule. l asked him merely
10 save myself the labor of it, because
the data being in the treasury depart
ment l thought he would be sure to have
all the points covered. Mr.. Carlisle did
as requested" Mr.. Jones assumed the
responsibility for Mr.. Carlisle's action.
CARLIsLE's TESTIMONY.
Secretary Carlisle's testimony is rather
brief and pointed. He denied in toto the
charge that he had made any recent visit
TO the finance committee, or that he had
made any statement to any human being
that the sugar trust or any one acting for
it had made any contribution to the dem
ocratic campaign fund, and that the trust
must be cared for. Coupled with
this denial Mr.. Carlisle said IF
| you want time to give information
derived from a member of the committee,
l will say that the sugar trust gave moth
ing whatever to the democratic campaign
| committee. This is merely from heresay.
! know nothing about it personally" As
! to how he came to draft the schedule,
Secretary Carlisle's account was iuiaccord
with Senator Jones'. Mr. Carlisle added
1T was service that we had been doing
very frequently during consideration of
this bill and service which, accord
! ing to my own knowledge, the
| secretary of the treasury had always
done heretofore, when tariff bills We're
| pending This matter was fully de-
scribed in his official statement published
on Saturday last.
Mr.. Carlisle said that he had been called
upon by both refners and planters, and
knew the refiners advocated ad valorem
duties. Mr.. Searles, Mr.. Havemeyer and
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