New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-07-07

At this point Mr.. Depew drfted into reflections
upon strikes in the past. He said: II have
studied with great interest. all the railway strikes
which have occurred in the last twenty-five years.
Every of these strikes has had its own origin
and all Of them before this seemed to present a
real or fanced grievance the part OF the en-
poyes against the railway companies. In this case.
however, all the railways. in q territory Of ZOO
miles square have been tied up. 4 million of peo-
pie have been thrown out Of employment in the
railway and other business incidental transporta
tion crippled by the course adopted by the
leaders in this movement. Property worth
millions If dollars has persisted, such as fruits
and farm products. the loss of which will
come upon the farmers producers; hundreds
Of thousands Of passengers have suffered the
greatest Inconvenience. and some have actually
died from exposure. simply because OF DIS
pute between the Pullman Manufacturing Com
pany Pullman. ILL.,. and its employees over the
construction of 800 freight l suppose" added
Mr.. Depew that of the 100000 people affected
not one-tenth ever heard of Pullman, H.. or the
Pullman Manufacturing Company. or knew that
the Pullman Company was both sleeping-car
company and a manufacturing company.
How do you account" asked the reporter, FOR
the origin and continuance of the strikes. with
such damaging results, and controlled by so in
consequential n leader as Mr.. Debs?
The cause of so widespread and disastrous a
revolution" said Mr.. Depew, must be looked Tor
beyond its apparently trivial excuses AS II appears
10 me- the idea of Mr. Debs and his associates IS
that to induce the different railway organizations
to dishand and join his he must demonstrate the
oInnipotent power which he possesses; and the
strike is mainly for that purpose, because he be-
Hcves that If he succeeds then al the railway men
~ tbis is he third effort in my experience to
bring every description of labor and employment
unions in the United States into one orS~nIh y t5
wav is an able man and very capable. The cen
trail idea OF every such effort however mas prcn
universal paralysis For instance. if an organi2a-
ton has a complaint and dispute arises, 5 An ~
the foundries Of Peekskll between me tnhRio,y -
and the moulders. ana. owing to their mar 10
is thaot the matter should be taken UP by THIS
tremendous organization. All me rhliIoaiS,, III ny
Jmeq Sa'e mq he fSqR sha go oui 6as
all the street and electric cars snal siPf 49,. IN
s sTSo the pubic. ali the mines in the coqniTy
that provide coal and fuel shall De snm ~, NY, haEer
shall discontinue baking bread. ana .'s hrtrc
scheme shall he carried thr0n.n, M u Rho tronhle
is that the mammoth size ana Wt t az" crushcs
power Of the cbiects or mangies them while the
Peeksk fly slips out s'anuS 0'' 49,
laughs -,.,
PRAISE FOR GOOD ORGANIZATIONS
.evo,, have in the past manifested your friend
ra,.o- % brotherhoods conspicuousy at
80 -, sugrasted the reporter. They are VAIN"
ahle-are they not-in many Of their laoo'S III ~
half of their members. and do 5000 service
ceI Tbn railway organizations on the ,tytcnGd
o.ds renlied Mr. Depew. have AWAY 'rrI.i,iv
20 N' Tho hest labor Organization IN me Mo ~,
W. added is the brotherhood OF Lo'omP',ss ne
ebarities and the rights Of It's mei..'Y letter re
secured more constant emp'oH he samc line it
tn com tered upon is members throtgh MS hnc
ucs ana ana IL. ssnr is true though lassrr acgrGr
~ the other railway hroihcrhools. -, when
~ III civ months old. seeks TO have an tI
ranizations which have been OF io', ti,,. ana
tod
VIII VIII ,n take care Of themselves pIa ~ ,'.l
Ia nd and become merged mo IN, ,sileI. HAS
os r,rrtrg 10 the reporter. Mr.. DcpeW 49, r-
track man the education and eNr.r 10 are
able hin to pass upon me c r,1r@r or fireman
s.,chroon or conductor, or can s%t,, ''ii r de-
sMdtci IN nerits Of case connected with o.hr' %
UPON ! ~, Including say. the shops ana li' -,
rhanics employed In them ~. ,tr,.,.ie g." - 49,.
Dnss mon Questions arising In the D,a', t'sW on
P 90 ~ which he has never been H!'.'sr... -,
gagged? l have found thIoutsnb nae" satisfactory
P,,,.'e,t vim n committee Of employee l,p,n'
very much upon the integen nee ,naticr which g
and up9n its knowe age nave 9t had b->emcn; VINO
hSpp raI eassocaton Ike that which IS now a,sa'
Ing such power has ben ,je6 NrrieVanccs OF yard
switchmen and even OF those OF 10 h ,irn,au
neers. nov. ,ronbie on matters affecting hrakc-
men but outside OF that he w9uln az or bv se-
n , 1sd Lut when committee or lo'o''o,.f;
engineers have come TO me , t"ey ,erriv and ds-
WnSt " Nh tH@ir Grievances II they had any Az
/ could listen to ana understand ~ e. ,ncritS Eat
o. the t ir'"e in the case OF brakeman VINO
might s as wneneycr would ATTEMPT to reason
nisb hin, ne would prove that be knew no'n"'
about What l was talking OF.
ONE EXPERIENCE RECALLED.
As an Illustration Of inconsistency OF men VIM
| ,a Themselves up under the powers OF s,"''"'
-. ~ 1,ercy said: About a week before !
o, 20 f,rrope the summer that the last s.rKe o.,
/ Cured on the New-York Central commute
mon me representing every branch OF ',h .br Iea
"H' ecsoiii ,tI,g ali me railway brohernDoo5 WY"
that organization couia 60 So5y ihcy ddnt I'M
Herstand the questions presented but Nnr" s.Lg
e ~ frartnsnt 10 which he belonged anf
sneak with knowledge anu d,'.,' III, - that
ne gues';Cn 1p freseted was settled in le. tna2
hour Thy them a 10 speak tn
5rCiherho,d OF Locomotive Engineers th,y "a. ..,
Very frankly t 5s115 ~, ToI because IA
crganza,ion would run into the me-" one 'o' P,r,I
rnad would be free from trouble In ne inin,c ara
they added that the locomotive cisn'c 'Grod ~.
brotherhood was about TO present At SoH m % I-dS
cent 70 80 per cen, Jess n cenacy AZ an organization
demand | refused to treat with th"in AZ az D
G ~ ne E5 20 @ o ocomoye Engneer T
committee then said that NOR otEalIa - br eer
/ p,cc vyoud order 2 strike the ncx, day cat.
10 da nosted or every roundnouse on ne ICai, "a
niob, tho concession which this commit 'c IN T
incco1,oty. engineers wor1 demand aih0uEh M
io ri ~ il from the brotherhood direct. The
/ rosu was that the committee called N" hNt Hp'n-
/ IN ana lauChingly said hat their chort 10 C,n-
sc-ida,e everything the ROAD IN one gram IN"
mon pool had been defeated; that their STicyan,s
t,era settled and that the company "ouiI Iff' -
,rob'e In the future That the last ehort ma
on our line 10 break ny the existing OIG'hizitohs
and combine them into one
A sHOEMAKER's QUARREL WITH A CON
DCCTOR
| another Incident" said Mr. Depew, 'occnrreD
q, cana ner'od and | will tell Il 10 YOU be-