The evening world. [volume] (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, 1894-08-23

| nan clIlltl anu TdSl cHlleu w efneT
! think he should be compelled TO pro
| duce him, although the man la IN the
Tomls under, Indictment for attempting
! to brite police officer
wiz Nat Can Werner.
Mr.. Wellman said In response to this
that he deemed II madvisabie to cal
with the case he had made against
Cross aud Smith or the other cha rges
He declined to discuss the matter
What share OF the money COLLECTED
| from these disorderly house keepers by
thn ward man does he GET asked Mr.
Welimsn On cross,ekamima,ion.,
i,akel smiled as he replied quietly:
II don't know. | never got any and !
never Sa" amy money pass
Well. IN be more explicit. 1t is
said that the ward man gets per cent
OF what he collects. IL that s6?''
don't know. u is not true so far as
do KNOW calmly replied the ex-dc.
You served under cant Cassidy. and
say You were instructed by him to close
UP these places. Did you close up Katie
SGhuherts place in all the eight years
Chrystie street. and later al l4i chrystie
street."
Tine question was a t,cit admission
that Katie schubert, Mr.. Wellman's
own witness, had perJured herself when
she denied her connection with the house
IL Chrystie street.
The ,answed was that evidence could
winners said he satisfied himself that
the PAGES were not running. In this
work he used Morris Goldstein, Nathan
and other stoolpigeons. and policemen in
ness.
'Dokel. You heard almost the same
words, now famous, that another ser
sesnt heard Capt Cross say to Mrs
4, a>ly ~
that house, or III send you to prison
But the sergeant SAYS the Captain said
maj 70 the woman IN his private room
sergeant In and told him to listen and
remember
How do You account for that
go DID you hear through the door .
heard. certainly heard Capt. cross
say what ! repeated Just AZ ! entered
the station-house." replied Dakel
Cou,d Not &c, Evidence.
pokel said he. had during his service
sot evidence for convictions against
eighty-two irou-rH. President Martin
pressed hin. closely. and he said that
ne NAG heard iuages, say that It was H.
evidence. and he FIRMLY believed itH
but police magistrates would not Issue
a warrant until assured by the officcs
that he also had another witness.
We raii2d Mrs. schubert. house
twice. We knew she was there and
might break the law but that was only
suspicion and we could not get war
rant without evidence and we could not
raid 1t without a warrant. When We got
evidence We made raids
matt rdatro 1r,n, Louis shind'er, Who served
under, orders, to get evidence against
gambling and dsorderiy houses, test
hsd that he saw Mrs. Schubert al the
Eldridge street station about May 20
II was telling the Captain about evi-
dence ] had got against some places"
he said. when she came in I got UP
she wanted. She asked Why can't
go on and do business He told her,
You cen not. that's all. You must close
up thr house. n you don't I'll send you
This Is the nr.t q three visits ftnc sort
made by Mrs, Schubert 10 .he station, as
related by different officers. The iirs;,
the second, In June, and the third ate in
July. Each time the Captain had re
fuhel to see her alone. and had told her
she must quit the business o. he would
Shindler described the manner O. pro-
cedure against disorderly houses. All
sorts of subterfuEss were employed,
bert in conversation on the corner,
Shipdler got In the house and secured
evidence. But the court declined to
issue u warrant. Another time she
succeeded in satisfying Judge Cowing
that her house was closed, and was al
lowed to Withdraw a plea Of not guilty
plead guilty and go free under sus-
pended sentence; He get got into the house
through the place from top t. bottom
but found no inmates nor evidence OF
guilt.
The story of the Sanford house was
similar, and in response to one of MIR.
McCleliand's questions, Sh!ndler. who L.
a man Of unusual intelligence for his
class, replied:
Closed After the Raid.
Mrs. Sanford's house was never
open after The raid In the manner she
describes. ] kept constant sFN eiilance
over H., under orders from CBpt. Cross.
and ] know that il 1t had been wide
Sanford has described ! should hay
got into IT, and there would have been
another raid.
The raid on that house was May 10,
ana the ~oman's case was not dispose /
OF In special Sessions til way along In
September The place was closed all the
Shlndler said Kate Schubert's husband,
Fred Wendt. did not die at 70 Forsyth
street, as shc testified, but at IA Chrys-
DO you remember that visit Of Mrs.
Schubert to the Captain so easily after
two years because II was the first step
In an EFFORT to make arrangements 10
pay him for permission TO run her bust
ness? asked Mr.. Wellman on cross-ex-
| animation.
Shindler said he didn't know. Mr.
Welimsn demanded to know II Judge
CowinE had not suspended sentence
mended u.
NO, sir; Judge Cowing asked me II
her statement that the nuisance was
abated WAS correct. I replied telling him
the truth ] told him that as fsr SIS
had been able to discover the house Was
closed up. That was true, and the sen.
tenee was suspended"
How many disorderly houses were
| In the precinct in JulN. 1900" Mr. We'll.