New-York tribune., 1894-04-07

e 9d YOU do TO learn the character OF the
charges against the police, that Yom heard def
fnites charges. yet took no action! Ara
NEWSPAPER CHARGES AGAINST MARTIN
,,r Sutherland then asked about other news
naper articles. one published IN Inc "o'.u ~
december g. 1890. said that Commissioners MARI"
and Sheehan were constantly overruhhs ouPei"
tendent Bvrnes and were engaged In a piot HbainS'
him The witness said he had heard e harnes che as
i,mf had asked no to investigate tne
there was no truth r. IN Rorsnh formerly State Sen
ator and now Civil Justice. had controi 0i N ali
Of the b fcrce transferred who failed to do
his bidding. The Commissioner sulu ~ ,,,. nv ironirv
shout il He declared that he had never nr nenpr
that the police being used 10 ,1p,ton al
sellers except when the Citzens 'o'"'''''''' "
three-couinn article containing cnarges, aGs of ns
President Martin b rtppa appssr at first said didn't know
whether reporter had called Gifted G 1' him Under
coaxinr he finally remembered that m man ron
81 NJ occmsaions but he declined 10 saw awning
And sti decline added 'ne "'''''''
y Mr. sutherlandDo you rememGer that
ON December 2S 1898 The Wine and spirit |aIT''e sr
h go You remember that this paper said bnR
until years ago Tarnany ra,,,rn FOR protecting
them and received about $4,000 year iro'" ''e"'
Al said something OF me ~he that two years
ago political backmail was substituted lot n"a"
4 1 helipVe IL
clei' IA a. @ sec an interview In "Thc Sun with
Commissioner Sheehan in which he said that a'teI
months before the saioon-keepers were tolu ny ny
their associations to pay no nGrs ne no money was
ihus paid? Al suppose ] saw the aftiCne' hout
''tSS Odd yon talk to Commissioner Sheehan ABOUT
Il: A.-No. slr.
HE INFERRED NOTHING.
oDid NOT the statement that no money was
mid 70 the police at the present time ind'ca'e u
Won that money had been paid In the past A.
1t did not. . .A., Gam
Odd YOU ever hear OF statement that com,
missioner Martin and Richard croker nau % 49, ana
Cations and told them that the members shouih h
pay no more money to the police. N'--''o ''N''
'','s mk Did You inquire about the interview? A-No'
I didn't believe IL amounted 10 anytni's' t,,r,,
Odd you assume II was untrue ~ '
know , ~ editorial article from
M Mr SarhfranI cnng on Sir Martin reply to he
obarcos AGAINST him In which were these worun, W rs
r.rres ar not The frown on the witn'ss , lr,g
deepened. and he said vehemenily' "e''' '"''
up "a ope ope here m m said YOU did, suggested Mr. suther
land softly
oThe ne article calls you to speak up Dia you
speak Vp it for the dignity OF the force to deny
tbeso charges? Al didn't know Of any way o'
showing them grexSePy , nctF r courei this Invesga-
'Sh Wr suthcrand-I noticed how delighted you were
to haV SIco o Insisted that all the Democratc sena-
tors voted for Mr. LeX0ws resolution anu oeII,r io
cantor backed him up In this Then the eNa'n'N'
"orYon said you believed that YOU, men men msn, @
ha* lsi n h,ackman saloon-kcepers II thcy wen.
into their places in citizens clothes. Don yHe You
think that such men HSnt o. IN Inv tne TO be
charges against You? A-Ihe iorce XIV" '''' "
innocent
APPOINTMENTS CHARGED TO TAMNANf.
I-pon whose recommendation was william =
Devery promoted from sergeant 10 captain? A
After examinat,on-
Mr. sutherland demanded answer 10 his que'-
ton. and there was a discussion between hIm' Mr.
Nicon ana Chairman Lexow. Finally the question
"ls oLrpn ANYBODY recommend Devery? ,A-Yes sir
Q.-Who? A-Many, - his pa,9 po,,lc9t' hirng 'A-No
n 1here Sas no formal Recommendation by Tam
many Hall There never was such. but many Tam
many wa! HSil m'n not Tsmmahy Hal appointment
Ayes to my mind. II WAS due 10 IainihA'S '''
'aSnc %rSnd IN the case Of Captain Michael Dohe,rly
who made tsc recommendations A.-l"e S"'' "''''
do you keep books? Al have some memo
U@On these books the appointments charged
up to IT. Tanmsny any. Hisi!? A-S2o'' sir ilr
! Q-And Tie same ia true of Captain GaHasher Z
% AoGAnd A. i of promoting Captain McAvoy to he IN
TQET1esr men feel obligated 70 Tammany Hal
Q-Dont YOU think they d.: A-Yes' A., Yes. ,, ,,., =,
sen4tSr BradiSynYog& & %9uT 0a thmk N,ness 49,, nodc
Q-Ycu weTc president OF the board IN November
o-1'here wcr,, United States marshals at the polls
| tha, year weren't there? A.-Ycs sir.
m ,b 'ngrs STsseiS'nt as 81 SIR P'''e ~
Q~wasn't there apprehension Of a conflict %n be-
Q-Wasn't there talk OF the possibility OF blood
shed? A-Yes. sir .... 80, ,to
| snrday before elcctlon? A-Ycs sir
! Odd you SO member Of The Tsrnmany
| Hall Executive CommltiGe or az 4 Ponce 'oh'''"S-
| siOncr; A.-As commissioner.
THE CLASH WITH BYRNEs.
Q-why dld you go? "A fcw days before su-
perntondent Byrncs submitted 10 re an order gov
| erning the conduct Of the police on election day
read IT, and said It was all right He sald he would ia
read the order to the captains al meeting ,,S on
| sunday at , O'Clock. I told him that should llke
to be present. and he said he would BE- Gad 10 nave
Q-were you the only Commissioner there? A
Q'-Were you delegated by the board to go there
| Byrncs read the order and explained it. l don't
recollect Just what he said: H., =,
Q-What happened then; A..He asked me " !
had anything 10 say. | said had little to add
said there great excitement In the city ana
| 10 have peace and quiet. ] said that the police
should arrest all disorderly persons whether they
ODD YOU moi, say that the marshals were the
the marshals? A.-No sir.
Odd you deane what disorder was? A.-Yes
ODD you say that the marshalss shoul1 not be
allowed 10 interfere with the police? A--No. sir.
Q.-What dld the Superintendent say? A-H'
| disagreed with about the Interference with mar
shals by the police He said the marshals had grca
authority and advised the police not to Interfere
| with them.
Q-What did you say? Al said nothlng-not 4
| word
| ODD he instruct them 10 obey him instead o
| YOU? Ale Just advised them as told you.
HE SAYS HE NEVER RECEIVED \ PENNY.
Q-IIave you heard of reports tina; some OF th
police captains paid for their appointment? A
have but never heard that captains appointed by
me were said to have paid for their appointment
Q-Have you ever received any pay for such ap
pointments? Al want to say 10 the commIite
that never received a penny for any appoint
ment promotion recommendation that eve
made.