Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1894-03-06
retary OF the Interior. but Of the Presi-
dent himself.
THE WAR STILL UNENDED.

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Mr. Baldwin Democ-at), OF Minnesota,
had hoped that the war had ended with
the surrender of Lee. but he was mis-
taken. The gentlemen on the other SIDE
were fighting II over again, leaving II from
generation to generation as a heritage.
Mr.. Baldwin also wanted TO know II the
gentlemen on the other side, In endeavor-
ing TO make ex,ravagant pension appro-
priations. were trying to embGrraSs the
tariff legislation, .or pensions must pe
paid out OF the money provttcd by tne
tariff laws.
Mr.. Cannon Repubican). Illinois, said
the gentleman from Illinois CMr. Biack''
the former Commissioner OF PENSIONS
had stood on the floor of the House, ana.
IL seemed to him. acted as the attorney
for the Democratic party In It's pension
policy. In his speech last Saturday he
had told OF the magnificent charge of
the present Commissioner OF Pensions at
Gettysburg; and IL seemed to him that
the gentleman was endeavoring 10 have
the record OF Commissioner Lochren
spread over the pension policy and the
unfrdendliness Of the administration 10
the pensioners. He would like TO know
whether the gentleman from Illinois was
in favor Of the pension vetoes when MI
Cleveland made during his first adminls-
tration.
Mr.. Black said the bills vetoed came to
him from the President through the Sec
retary of the Interior. and were by him
referred to the various divisions for re-
port. He had then sent the cases back 10
the Secretary of the Interior with reports,
sometimes giving opinions whetner INC
bills should be vetoed.
More Questioning by Mr.. Cannon failed
to get the desired Information from MI
Black. who declined to betray what ne
believed to be confidential relations De-
tween the President and his Cohihis-
sloner of Pensions himseiD. 10 one
answer Of Mr.. Blacks Mr.. cannon saiu'
Then my colleague does endorse the VCto
Of the private bills. but not of TIE 'le-
pendent pension bills You understand
something have not said" was the reply,
"but you have determined to make me
say" Uaughter)
Mr. Cannon persisted that the gsnue-
man had not answered his question as 10
whether he favored the pension policy oil
the first Cleveland Administration.
Mr.. Black repeated that he could not
answer until permission had been gwen
him by the President, or the law fai
provided for the removal OF the cOnil-
Dental relations under whicn he was
nlaced with regard to his official coinec-
ton with the President.
Mr.. Cannon wanted to know what his
colIeague thought of the matter ?s an
individual not as a former CoInmls-
sioner of Pensions.
He saw nothing wrong In that.
"your estimate OF duty under given cir
cumstances might guide you; it would not
guide me.
CANNONS COARSENESS AGAIN.
"Wiu my colleague tell me whether the
vetoes were written in the Pension Once
or in, the White House," asked Mr.. can
non.
II trust the gentleman will not persist
I'm that line OF questioning after what
have said" said Mr.. Black.
Mr. Cannon did not want TO embarrass
his colleague. but he would like his ques-
ton answered, he said, and Mr. Biacb
REPLIED amid great applause from the
Democratic side that II was a question
OF personal delicacy and decency.
Then Mr.. Cam on made some reference
to the embarrassment he had caused Mr.
Black. followed by a few other remarks
about MIR. Blacks refusal to answer his
question.
This brought Mr.. Black again to his
feet with the declaration. which he de-
livered with much feeling. that he de-
clined any longer to be placed IN th'
position of witness 10 be bddgered by
the gentleman from Illinois.
The gentleman declines to answer,
said Mr. Cannon. The people In this
country don't care three hurrahs IN
hades about what he thinks. They want
to know about the policy Of the admin
istration on the pension question"
Mr.. Cannon devoted the rest of his ar
gumemt to citing cases OF deserving rem
sioners, many OF whom had received thel'
injuries from disease and not bullets anC
he declared that the President was do;ns
Just as little rs possible under the de
pendent pension act, which he had ono
vetoed.
At the conclusion of Mr. Cannor's re
marks the House. at $50 o'clock, ad-
1Ourned till tomorrow.
Mr. Livingston. of Georgia, offered II
the House to-day a bill appropriatin;
$4,000 for bonded warehouse at AT
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