The sun., 1894-10-26
GOFF QUESTIONS SHEEHAN.
u.RDLT cor DOWN TO PoLICB
AFFAIRS YESTERDAY.


Bu.iness-Tryirs 70 Cc-.eet Poiiee-ss
,oo-sy with the Herman woman, who
q. a.,s = Prisoner .. Jersey City.
rh. examination Of Police Commissioner John
r, sbeehan was begun before the Lexow COM
,nittee at 40 O'Clock yesterday afternoon. II
las,e,l only an hour and ten minutes, but will
nrobsbly he continued all day to-day. II its
character remains unchanged, there IL no rea-
.onable hope that It will be concluded within q
week. for the first round of an hour and ten
minutes resulted in the counsel and the witness
Getting no nearer "down to business" than the
orst few seconds In the first round Of a prize
Aght. when, as they call II, the pugilists fiddle"
yShile taking each Others measure. However,
Mr. C,off implicated that before he leads the wit
ness into strictly police affairs, he proposes TO
examine him at very great length on matters
which have little TO do with the Police Depart
ment. Quite incidentally. one line OF the ques-
t,ons Yesterday disclosed the fact, which was not
discussed at the time Of the appointment Of Mr..
MaeLean's successor as Police Commissioner,
that Inspector Alexander 8. Williams was
candidate for that oficc.
In the morning Mr. Goff announced that ow-
ing TO habeas corpus proceedings taken in Jer-
sey City for the release Of Matilda Herman that
witness would not appear Yesterday.
chairman Lexow-who is this man Dirk. who
appears In that case1 Is he resident of this
Slater
Mr.. Goff informed him that Dirk lived here,
and the Chairman wanted TO know why Dirk
was not In contempt Of tho Senate for interfer-
once with witness called before Senate COM
mittee.
Mr.. Goff-we have thought of that, but he,
with many others whom we would like TO bring
before this committee, Is temporarily out Of the
State.
Chairman Lexow-well do these people un-
derstand that the Senate we represent holds
until Jan. !, 1896, and that II they propose to
stay out Of the State until that Senate is dis
solved they are confronting more than years
absence
NJ. Gotr replied that he did not think the peo-
pie referred to realized that fact, or that 1t
would matter much II they did.
Chairman Lexow-Cannot this committee go
to Jersey City to take the testimony Of the Her
man woman
Mr.. Goff- Without doubt. II could go to Hong
Kong to take testimony willingly given, but, Of
course its processes have Jurisdiction only In
this State.
PArRoLMAN cooNEY CALLED.
II was almost 1o o'clock before the first wit
ness was called, Mr.. Goff at the same time send
ing messenger to inform Commissioner Shee-
han that the committee was waiting for his ap-
pearance. The witness was Patrolman Michael
Joseph Cooncy, now of the Fourteenth precinct,
but three years ago n ward man in the Fifteenth
precinct, Mercer street station.
Q.-You kept private memorandum book Of
the disorderiy houses in that preoinctr Al
did.
Q.-where is It now2 Al lost It. last saw
1t about year ago among my trinkets.
Q.-Do you include among your trlnkets tho
gold watch Mrs. Matilda Herman gave you while
you were ward man2 Al do not. never re-
e!ved gold watch from her.
Odd you ever get a gold watch from Tif-
fany's? Al never was In there.
Then Mr. Con wanted to know all that the
witness could tell him about Mrs. Herman. He
said he had only seen her the two or three times
he went to her house to arrest her on warrant.
o.-whsn did you go to Saratoga with Mrs.
Hermann Al never went there with her.
Q.-Give me an account of your movements on
the 9th of September.
The witness, after considerable mental calcu-
Iation. decided on that day he was off duty from
O In the morning till o in the evening. A long
line of questions developed that Mr., ,Gon was
psaranee Of Matilda Herman from this city on
The 9th or 10th of September. He made no
dsy Mrs hG fsssd
good by at the Grand Central Depot A:-You
Usut was sm NOT present. s. al that faseinatns
osculatory exercise A.-NeIther was /.
o:-What did you Do with the ring Mrs, Her
e.ysrythingI Al have made up my mind to
The witness was told TO step aside for q mo-
ment and Ralph NJ Hyde, manager for Tiffany
records. he enlightened the committee with this
information; On the Goth OF July, 1891. some
$500 % sss being ereSs on leSEs eSa wssSn
Isnc Ths PIressSsE ~ % gave ths name o1 Mrs GSyhe
s into III Tnys Sts the same wsses
and ordered the initials J. G. engraved on the
HE gave his T
Q.IYOgr name is Joseph AMY name is
'Q.~Bpt You are usually called Joe; you don't
like TO be called Mixer Al pay no attention
who took the watch to TifianS's and had 4 en-,
who Al TsrS s
time.
b G r:Rs that sas xs; .sas
name of Mrs. Guyheneuc. Mr.. Con- became
5GSsh yh sSs spss' ThS Con Ta'
asked the witness 10 describe the four buildings
on the corner OF Bleecker and Mercer streets,
at him with, " Don't pause answer"
The Witness-Oh, give me a chance to think.
Mr. Con n-No. sir: answer.
At recess the witness was told TO return In the
afternoon, but his examination was not con-
tinued then.
coAAissIoSER sHEEHAN CALLED.
When the committee was called 10 order In
the afternoon, Mr.. Gof, after q lengthy con-
suitation with the committee, called aloud,
"Commissioner SheehRn." The Commissioner
who is an athletic look ing man, succeeded by q
desperate effort Ia forcing his way through the
human pack 10 the witness stand. Uncle Daniel
Bradley placed the Bible in his hand, and he
had begun TO take the oath, when Senator Cantor
interrupted. saying:
"One moment. please. Commissioner SheehAn
- here. understand. perfectly willing to testify
but he IL q member OF the Board OF Police Com
misstoners and that Board Is at this moment
constantly engaged with very important public
business, which cannot be neglected, for II con-
Germs the proper arrangement OF the vast and
Intricate election machinery. In this business
the whole Board is required. and In my opin.
ion the public interest Will be better subseryed
II the examination OF the Commissioner Is post
poned and he Is permitted to perform his duties
- public officer In this important regard"