The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-02-13
A HAWAIIAN MESSAGE
Another Batch of Dispatches
Transmitted to Congress.
An Interview Between Gresham and
Thurston That Worried WILTSHIRE
Secretary of States Reply.

i0o'
late this afternoon transmitted to Congress
additional Hawaiian correspondence. The
presidential message is as follows:
II transmit herewith two dispatches re-
ceived a few days ago from our minister
at Hawaii and reply to one OF them from
version is given of an interview which oc-
CURED Nov. Il, 1893, between the secretary
of State and Mr.. Thurston, representing
the Hawaiian provisional government at
Washington"
The correspondence begins with a dis
patch from Willis to Gresham, NO: -
'Sir-On last Thursday, Jan. 10, by a vote
of Z TO 2, the nth day of January, being the
first anniversary of the provisional govern
ment, was declared a public holiday. On
yesterday afternoon the representatives OF
foreign governments received invitations to
participate in the observance of the day
/ replied to President Dole'S letter, stating
that with a due appreciation of his cour-
tesy and with due respect to MIN ana ms
government, ] was, | regretted TO say, un-
able to accept the invitation extended. the
programme OF the celebration tomorrow
includes battalion review and parade OF NH
itary, reception at the executive Dulldlng'
firing of the national salute and mass meet
ing at night
The next, marked Confidential, No. 49,"
is also from Willis to Gresham, and is also
dated Jan. 16. 1t reads:
"Sir-In a letter from Hon. B. S. Dole.
Minister Of Foreign Affairs, addressed to
liAC III udSc VI Cah. LJ oNO
statement is made:
"tOn Nov. IA Mr.. Thurston, Hawaiian
minister at Washington. called on the Sec
rotary Of State and inquired If the above
letter yours of Oct. 49, was authentic, and
was assured by Mr.. Gresham that it was.
Mr.. Thurston then said: Il wish to fur
Their ask whether II Is the intention of the
United States government to carry out It's
policy therein indicated by force, or. in
government declines to accede to the re-
quest of the United States government to
vacate in favor of the Queen, United states
troops will be used to enforce the request?'
To which Mr.. Gresham replied: Il am
not at liberty at present to answer that
question. II is a matter, concerning which
l will speak to the President and talk more
fully his afternoon"
lin the afternoon of the same day. Mr.:
Gresham further said to Mr.. Thurston: L
have already answered your first question,
to the effect that the letter published (Sec-
rotary Gresham TO the PresidenD was. au-
theftic and q. correct statement OF the poll
question as TO whether force was 70 pc
used by the United States to restore the
Quesn. all that / am at liberty to state Is
that Mr.. Willis has no instructions to do
anything which will cause injury 70 life or
property of anyone at the islands. Further
than this l am not at liberty TO state what
own differences from my statement and al
lay any apprehensions which may have
been caused by what is published
MIR. ThurSton further said to Mr.. GreSh-
am: Your answer does not convey the in
formation 1 requested. What | desire Is to
obtain Information which will guide my
governmen in its action. If it knows the
course to be pursued by you, the course OF
action will necessarily be different from
what it otherwise would be. The definite
information from you that you intend to
use force may be the means of preventing
you from using force and causing blood
she'd"
Ito which Mr.. Gresham replied: "Our
relations in the past have been pleasant,
and / want them TO continue to be so in
the future, and to be perfectly courteous,
and l cannot at present answer you more
fully than 1 have done"
II do not know whether Mr.. Thurston
made this statement public In the United
States at the time, but 7 do know that the
first intimation this community had upon
the subject was contained in Mr.. Dole's
letter of the 18th inst. Had rour statement
TO Mr.. Thurston been made public here at
the time Nov. 2D when it was received,
the excitement resulting from the warlike
preparations OF the provisional government
would have been allayed and critical and
dangerous conditions avoided"
The next dispatch is No. Is, from Gresham
to Willis. 1t is dated Feb. Z, and reads as
follows:
"Sir-I have the honor to acknowledge
the receipt of your No. %. Of Jan. 16, in
Hon. 3. S. Dole, Minister Of Foreign AZ
fairs of the provisional government on the
minister OF the provisional government OF
Hawaii, called at the State Department fol-
an interview with the Sec etary of State
on the Hawaiian situation The minister
was informed by the Secret .ry that it was
about time for a Cabinet meeting, and he
was under the necessity of requesting the
minister to call again at 3 O'Clock in the
afternoon. He replied that he would do SO,
but before leaving desired TO submit two
questions to the Secretary-frst, was the
letter addressed by the Secretary 10 the
President about Hawaii and the provisional
government, printed in the papers a few
days ago, authentic and official? Second, II
it was, and he presumed IL was, was ii the
Presidents intention to use force, IL neceS-
Sary, against the provisional government
in restoring the Queen?
"1ne Secretary replied that the letter was
authentic, out, not having time TO spend
with the minister just then, he could re-
peat the questions on calling in the after
noon. The minister called at the appointed
hour and the Secretary informed him that
the letter addressed TO the President was
authentic. and that no action had been
taken by our minister, Mr.. Willis, which
could imperil tie lives or property of the
officers Or supporters OF the provisional gov
eminent. and If they suffered in any way
1t would be in consequence of their own
acts or attitude. The interview continued.
THE Minister-Mr. Secretary, hat answer
is not satisfactory, and | would be gratified
If you would be more explicit
THE Secretary-l cannot be more ex-
plicit at this time. You can draw your own
differences from what / nave said and cor
been credited by what has been published.
In answer to a question in the under
scored language from a slip OF paper which
lay on my table In plain view before me
l did not say III either interview that |
was not at liberty to answer either ques-
tion."
GRAY