The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-10-28
TALK WITH CAPRIvI.
The Ex-ChancellOr Tells Why He
Stepped Out of Office.

Stepped Out Of Office.
Copyright, 1894, by the Associated Press)
BERLIN, Oct. 27.-The thunderbolt which
wound up this fairly quiet politi-
Cal week, although surprise to
the political world in general, has
been clearly and exclusively foreshad-
owed In the dispatches of the Associated
Press. and it's correspondent here is now
in position to state that the information
which he has cabled upon this subject was
obtained from Chancellor Won Caprivi him
self. although the correspondent was not
then able to make public the source of his
information. On Oct. g. for example. these
dispatches contained the following state
nents:
1.-The general belief is that the visit of
Chancellor Won Caprivi to Emperor Will
liam at Huberstock yesterday was con-
nected with the proposed exceptional laws
against Anarchists which have been urged
in many quarters. The agitators. it is be-
lieved, really intend that the laws re-
Chancellor Won Caprivi therefore opposed
the proposed measures, as ne does not be-
against them, being Of the opinion that the
best policy is to leave them comparatively
free thus giving the party full scope .edI IN
will ultimately lead to its disintegraton.
In any case it Is known that the present
Reichstag will not pass such a measure, but
ii might be introduced in the Diet of the
individual states. The situation, however,
is regarded in many quarters as being very
grave, and some politicians even express
the belief that Chancellor Won Caprivi will
resign unless he is fully backed up by the
Emperor"
es contained the following statements:
I'm spite of outward appearances and
usssy We tha he
conflict between Chancellor Won Caprivi
and Count Botho Zu Eulenburg respecting
the anti-Sooialist measures is not settled
On the contrary, the situation is said TO
be more critical than ever, and it has even
M1sty that o state bier words
exchanged between the Chancellor and the
Prussian Premier, owing to the latter in
General Won Caprivi was disposed to intro
duce into the Reichstag, which body, how
is certain to reject Ss
1t is added. broke up with the ministers
eatirely in discord; Since then Emperor
and the dispute was patched, up But
| Chancellor Won Caprivi Is still to some
extent at variance with the II, Prussian
cellorship rather than submit to the
Reichstag measures, with which ne mas
no sympathy himself, and which, more,
| over he is convinced the Reichstag would
| not accept"
SEAL OF SILENCE REMOVED.
| The important intimations given in these
dispatches were based on statements which
| Won Caprivi himself made in conversation
+ with the Associated Press correspondent
The latter, however, for the time being was
| pledged to secrecy respecting the source Of
| his information, as the generals tenure or
his official post naturally precluded the
use Of his name In connection with such
/ q subject Now, however, Caprivi is again
| q private citizen and the seal OF silence i'm
| posed by his office has been removed from
Il
ciated Press an Interview for publication.
| In consequence. the correspondent called
| at General Won Caprivi's residence last
| evening and the General repeated what he
| had previously said that the leading ques-
ton upon when ne round II impossible 70
1 Emperor and Count Botho Zu Gutenberg,
| was the anti-revolutionary measures. The
/ second bone Of contention between the
| same parties, he added was the proposed
| treatment of the Polish question. Caprivi
| said that he could not acquiesce to Eulen-
| bergs opinion that drastic and exceptional
| measures were necessary to cope with the
! progress of socialism. Moreover, he was
convinced that they would not be ratified
| he himself was thoroughly conservative. but
that he did not believe in reactionary
measures. such as Ad.I EulenbeEg es Proposed to to
to ward off social danger.
Continuing. Capriv said: 'T have made ar
| honest attempt to fall into line with the
views of his Majesty and Count Gutenberg
J but have failed. My whole policy has
been based upon reconciliation Of the socia
| differences and conciliation of the Poles
Both questions, however, have been rem
dered acute. lately. against my own ad
| vice."
In an audience the Chancellor was giver
by the Emperor the latter expressed HIS dis
satisfaction that Caprivi was without
working majority in the Relchstag. which
in his Majesty's opinion. accounted for the
fact that the adoption of the proposed So
cialst measures was doubtful. The EN-
peror also insisted upon reunion Of the
chancellorship and the Prussian premier
ship. and here again Caprivi found himself
directly at variance with the views OF tn,
| Emperor
The retiring Chancellor practically fin
ished up the business of the chancellerie a
s O'Clock yesterday afternoon, when nj!
aid-de-camp. Major Ebmyer left and IN,
General spent the evening quietly at hi!
residence. seeing few friends, and retired
at an early hour. Emperor williams at
titude towards Caprivi has undoubtedl,
changed greatly during the past week, anS
since his Majesty's visit to Count zu Eulen