Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1894-06-21
HARRY HILLS EXPERIENCE.
He Testihes Before the Lex0w Com
mittee in New York.


The committee of the New York senate
investigating the New York police had be-
fore them yesterday the most picturesque
witness so far called. Interesting as We're
the personalities OF George Apo and Frank
Clarke, the veteran sport. Harry Hill. prov
ed to be the star enc. He was determined
to tell his story in his own way, and Mr.
Golf wisely allowed him to do so. With his
brown soft hat in his hand he frequently
stood up and ratified along. interpreting
his narrative with bright witticisns at the
expense of the police who had ruined MIN
He did not want to testify yesterday, as
he had been subpoeIaed at 3 o'clock in the
morning and had not gone to bed. He said
he had all his transactions with the police
down in black ard white at his homo in
Rockaway.
You are pretty well known. Harry"
known all over the world" he answered
did the police get all your money!"
well. 1t wasn't their fault If they didn't
got along all right at my place, corner
Houston street and Crosby, watch I opened
In 1854. until Capt. Murphy, who is now on
the force. was transferred to my precinct
thought he was n good fellow.
The police commissioners there were
French. Niccoll, Matthews and Mason. The
ward man of Capt. Murphy was named Mo-
ran. All the other captains treated me veil
except Capt. Murphy. He would bring his
friends In ami open champagne, hut l paid
for 1t: He used TO jolly me. ! didn't exact
ly Kick at the wine hut when he sent Moran
around for $1,000 and told me TO full in line
and pay up, l said See here, l amt no
criminal: I'm running a square place Now
you know, i don't mind giving friend
money. but object to being buncoed' Capt
Murphy came around one time with Moran.
who came inside while Murphy stood out
side. Moran said he would take $500 lie
didn't get 1t. though. paid him $50. once
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asked for 1t. What / objected t. was any
fixed rates. l wasn't any thief and crimi-
nal. Why. I'm proud of my pedigre, Well
TO cut long story short, Murphy began to
prosecute me, and has never let up Hes
driven me out of the saloon business in
Harlem and prevented me from getting a
license in other places. Capt. Byrnes. now
SUPERINTENDENT. was good captain. In
tact, never had any trouble with any 9TH
er captain than Murphy Well Inspector
Steers and Superintendent Murray sent for
me and said stories Were going around that
had been blackmailed. and asked me
about 1t. At first l denied it, but when thew
promised not to use my testimony | told
them. Then they said 1 was a squealer-
mind you. after they had sent for me They
asked me If 1 thought that they received
any OF the money l answered that they
were foolish If they didn't as they had the
name of II. Murphy was transferred and
Moran resigned"
Chairman Lexow asked If he had not paid
money 10 other police officials beside Moran
and Murphy.
Il wouldn't like to say. They were good
people,
You would not swear that you did not 90
Il won't mention names. but did pay for
protection"
Did you ever put up money for making
nea sergeants and captains?'
don't recollec'- Yes, did put up pies
~ money. 1t wasn't always necessary
had only to exert my influence"
Ex-Judge Ransom did not shake his testi-
n-ony in short cross-examination Then
the witness stepped down, nodded to the
committee and went smiling out of court
George Stein, butcher on Third avenue,
followed and testified that Charles Dol
nedge, policeman now on the force had
borrowed money to secure his appointment
and never paid 1t back
An adjournment was then taken until to-
day.