Richmond planet., 1894-03-03

III by recruits rom literary n1tu duu |
women of some status" "Poor deluded
,reatures' that never read aud thought I
and willfully run into the trap of Ro-
man Catholicism , Perhaps Captain
Pizzini, Col Cowardin and many Others,
all devout Catholics OF this city, never
''read and thought" But OF course,
knowing the source from which this ridi-
culous statement comes, we will par
don II.
Apart from everything else, is il not
supremely ridiculous that a protestant
minister Dretends to know more about
Catholic doctrine. than priest OF that
Church who has been studying for 20
years in different parts of the world?
Another little question. In what
standard Catholic book did you find the
following stupid maxim Ignorance
is the mother of devotion and order"
L challenge you, sir, to show us where 1T /
can be found.
Aud now as to the subject which is the |
only legitimate one in this discussion.
remind you, vou say, of the fiddler
who plays each time the same tune. |
Very good. But have you forgotten
that when promised to furnish you all
the music you wanted, you on your part
promised To dance The readers of the
PLANET vi admit that | kept my pro-
mise and furnished you good music, but
so far you have not daDced yet
Why don't you answer my questions
by arguments as asked you twice AS
you have not done it as yet, will play
the old tune once more, hoping that l
may shame you (if any is left in you) to
dance at last and like man answer
my arguments or make at least an at
tempt.
The only question is did Christ give
to his Apostles the power to forgive
sins ?'' The second question Had
they any right TO transmit that power?''
| The second question is useless until the
| first is settled. If Christ did not confer
that power, of course they could not
| transmit it.
That Christ really gave that power to
| his Apostles is plain.
1. Because he promised it. amen,
amen say to you whatsoever you shall
I bind upon earth, shall be bound also in
| heaven and whatsoever you shall loose
upon earth shall be loosed also in heav-
| en-. Mat. 1918. We are still waiting
| for your first word in reply to this.
Please don't keep us waiting so long
? Christ actually conferred that power
on his Apostles. In John 2O:2l-23.
Christ thus addresses His Apostles, and
he it remembered, His Apostle ALONE !:
"As the Father has sent Me also send
ed on them and He said TO them, Receive
We the Holy Ghost whose sins you shall
forgive they are forgiven them and
| whose sins you shall retain, they are re-
tanned"
Here we are informed that 1.-the true
meaning of that passage is that whose
en- they shall be
forgiven, ALSO whosoever sins ye DECLARE
unforgiven they are
unforgiven." answer. This is what
YOU say and not Christ. What rIghI
have you TO tamper with the words oi
the Saviour and give them meaning
which was practically unheard of fol-
1900 years
) That Christ really meant to confer th'
| power of forgiving sin on His Arostles
r is evident from every word OF His anS
| from every circumstance.
There is question here of that pardon
7 | OF sins. l. Whose author the Holl
/ Ghost Himself is, wherefore Christ, be
fore giving that power said "Receive y
I the Holy Ghost" that is to say, b,
your own power you cannot do so, bu
u the Holy Ghost will work through you
n = They receive the same power OF pan
don as Christ Himself possessed, Q
e course dependent on Him. "As tn
Father has sent Me, | also send you.
3. The same words are used as In tho E
places where God is said to grant f,ai
l. don, whether by Himself Immediately
IT imn e1iately through some one eli e a
T, pointed by Him.
,t Against this we are told, that in tn
IN solemn, plain commission Christ merel
directed His Apostles to announce IL
Q. conditions upon which that pardon We
lie TO be. granted. On what grounds, ei
~ =, sro a.
T. ly it does not appear from the wore
lr quoted above. The commission yo
n speak OF, was included in that gel
Ot eral command" Go and teach all nation
ar go and preach the gospel"
MT Christ need not have commissioned
ls Apostles in so impressive and solemn
or manner if they were merely to announ
o. the conditions. Faith and repentanC
lie. hope in the Redeemer, have always be-
ly necessary for the pardon of sin, even b
'er fore the coming of Christ. In the Ne
N, Law, a new condition was added:
y. confess the sins and receive pard'
le- through those whom Christ had appoiI
nr- ed to carry on his mission.
ID. Again you object that Christ mere
'h- speaks OF the pardon which we shou
)m give those who have offended us. Wro
nd again. That duty was laid before {
lll- not before the Eleven only in the serm
TO on the mount, and again in the ansv
BILE given by Christ to st. Peter when
an latter asked Him how often he ought
ers forgive his brother. Also in Matt. 1S:
Sc Luke 1894 as quoted by you. In the
be- words of j ohm 20:21 etc, Christ spea
ul, of two-fold power; tLat OF fOrglvi
lec- and retaining, Do you mean to {
his that Christ should give the Holy Che
sln that the Apostles might sometimes
risU forgive their brother when be threat
our all with eternal damnauOn ii they rel
to TO do soT uoVv zidio,siOuc J rs u
Der shocking
=, This, insist, makes it as clear as
~ MONDAY, that Christ gave to His Al
~ tles the power to forgive sin in his ma
rely note that expression Gin his name.
In my first letter l also added
S94. those words have been understood
this way by the whole church for l.
this years. The writer's OF the first, secC
rays third and following centuries interpr'
hav- them in this same way, and l ventur
We say that they knew nearly as n
We about what our Lord meant than
now do. How did you answer this
can one word, And what have you to
nted to those cOgent arguments from 81
ture Nothing, absolutely nothing
I Co. | cept this Having given my interpi
one tion of that passage, ] will not 81
Y. I here"
sked For the last time now l ask you t.
! try swer these arguments and refnte
two ii you can-by a clear passage
two scripture; otherwise admit that I
Lsked words of Matt. 1871 8 and John 20
wish % mean exactly what Christ said
people have believed for 1900 years