The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1894-07-14
DEPEW'S IDEAS.
a Roast For Debs, the PopuIist Par
ty, Socialists, Anarchists, and
Conspirncies in GeneraI-Hot Shot
From Chauncey.

From Chauncey.
London, July 18.-Chauncey NJ. De-
pew, at the request of that paper. has
favored the Times with the following
statement by cable as to the causes
and meaning of the labor troubles in
the United States. The Times granted
the Associated Press correspondent
permission to cable the interview to the
United States:
The labor troubles in the United
States are due to the long continued
industrial depression, and the strike
was caused by the ambitious efforts of
Mr.. Debs, president of the A. r. u, to
absorb all organizations of railway en-
ployees into one. The success of this
disorder and delay in suppressing it
were owing to the heretofore underlined
boundary between state and federal
authority. In the depressed financial
and industrial situation the Populist
party found its opportunity or rather
the situation created the party. The
idea which it's members gather from
its teachings is that liberty means the
right to violate law and stop or seize
railroads and industries, providing the
laWbreakers are poor and are sufficient
ly strong to defeat or overawe the or
binary peace and establishment of
party is in power strikes, lockouts. boy
colts and suppression of railway traffic
receive direct assistance or passive
permission from the authorities. Mr..
Debs was for many years high and
popular official of the Brotherhood Of
Locomotive Firemen, and the editor of
a labor magazine of advanced social
istic and somewhat anarchistic views.
He conceived the idea Of breaking UP
the existing organizations and gath
ering the railway world into his order.
His scheme was attractive. The order
was to control the railways and coerce
their managers.
Debs made his first appeal to the
switchmen and selected the Great
Northern for his attack. This line had
been built paralleling the Northern Pa
cific, had forced the latter into bank
ruptcy and could not afford a tie-up.
After a few days the manager of the
line surrendered. Debs victory sur
prised himself by its completeness and
far-reaching consequences. East of
Chicago and in the oldest and thicllly
settled states, the old organizations
stood firm against him. He must again
demonstrate his power. Finding no
grievance en- any railway, he chose to
make his fight upon the trouble be-
tween the Pullman Car company and
the IQScDaDlcS III us SHOPS over TIE
construction of some hundreds of
freight cars for various railways. Debs
ordered boycott of the Pullman cars
and on the refusal of the railways to
break their contracts with the Pull
man company and inflict nameless cru
elites upon their passengers, he or
dered their lines closed. The strike
reached it's ridiculous stage when the
governor of California requested a per-
nit from the strike leader to visit his
capital which was contemptuously re-
fused After President Cleveland s
proclamation it required few days fer
the general public and the strike lead
ers to grasp the idea that the president
was in earnest and the army and navy
in motion, when this gigantic conspir-
lacy collapsed as suddenly as it had
organized. The losses occasioned by the
lstrike are enormous but it is destined
to prove of great benefit to the coun-
try. The national idea has been
strengthened and broadened. Safe an
lchorage will be found for persons and
property.
Zone of the hopeful features of the
situation has been the unmistakable
display of loyalty in the south. The so
Icalled rebel states unanimously demand
ed the intervention of the federal pow
er to restore order before everything
else