The record-union., 1894-07-30
No Meeting of Democratic Con-
ferrees Since Saturday.
SENATORS WAITING FOR PROPOSE.
TIONS FROM THE HOUSE.
Senator Brice THINKS the Bill VIII
Pass In the Form as Amended and
Adopted by the senate-He Thinks
Gorman's Speech was Not an Attack
Upon President Cleveland.

no meeting of the Democratic conferrees
on the tariff bill since adjournment Sat-
urday. and the Democratic managers
have as yet been uninformed as to what
answer the Democratic managers in
behalf of the House will make in re-
sponse to the Senate's position that the
conference must accept the Senate bill.
Having at the Saturday meeting made
plain to the House members of the con-
ference why this demand on their part
had to be made, and why it should be-
accepted, the Senators have, since the adj
journment on Friday, given very little
attention to tariff affairs and say when
spoken to that there is nothing for
them to do until the House members
make known their acceptance or rejec-
ton OF the proposition. If it be accepted,
they think the report can be made after. a
brief conference.
If rejected, they say they see no reason
for long parley, as under the circum-
stances they cannot abate their demands
without endangering the passage of the bill
III the Senate. The Senate couierrees have
said to those of the House that to strike
out the ditferential on sugar probably
means loss of eight votes in the Senate,
and also that 1t Is equally important that
coal and iron ore should remain in the
blu as arranged in the Senate. It does
not appear that any difficulty has arisen
over coal and iron ore in the present diff
ferences.
1t looks very much like deadlock, un-
less the House conferrees yield, as there
is no indication Of any purpose on the
part OF the Senators to do so. The con-
ferrees talk frankly about the situation
and plant themselves firmly upon the
proposition. The full conference by
members of the two houses viii be had at
O'Clock tom orrow. Previous to that
time the Democratic managers will meet
informally, when 1t is presumed the Sem
ate conferrees VIII be informed OF the de-
eision of their House colleagues of the
conference on Saturday. The decision
is likely to be flat refusal OF the
present House conferrees to yield to the
Senate's demand in whole or in part. The
determination to give this negative re-
sponse has, 1t is said, been agreed on def
nitely by the House cOnferrees. 1t had
been expected that the intense feeling of
the past week would clear the atmosphere
and lead to some common ground of
agreement, but when the House confer
rees were met by a demand to yield in
toto on sugar and iron, they assumed
an equally aggressive and determined
stand.
At their meeting each of the House
members was asked to state if his views
had changed in any way since the former
conference. 1t developed that not one of
the four had modified his views in the
slightest. They were, therefore. IA unit in
declining to accede TO the demand of the
four Senate conferrees.
A strong demand is being made by re-
ligious bodies for the House to pass the
anti lottery bill which Senator Hoar in
troduced in the Senate, and which passed
that body. Mr.. Broderick of the Judi
ciary Committee, who reported the bill to
the House on Friday, has received hum
dreds OF letters urging the passage of the
bill, and the other members of the COM
mittee have been the recipient of much
correspondence on the subject. Most of
these have come from religious organiza-
tions, but many individuals have writ
ten. While the present anti-lottery laws
were strongly drawn to prevent the use
of the mails for lottery business. the
measure now before Congress goes much
further, invoking the authority of Con-
gress over foreign commerce and COM
merce between the States.
The penalties provided for by the pend
ing bill are very heavy, the first offense
being punishable by imprisonment or by
fine of not more than 81 200, or both, and
after the first otfenSe by such imprisou-
nent only. 1t EN- braces persons who cause
to be brought within the United States
from abroad or deposited or carried in
the mails, or carried from one State to-
another, any paper purporting to be or
represent ticket, share or interest in
any lottery or similar enterprise, or
who cause any advertisement of such
enterprise to be brought into the United
States, deposited in the mails or carried
from one State to another. 1t stipulates
that no part of the bill shall be construed
I,x- hoff ,lo,-
purposes. ss@s
Some opposition was raised in the ju-
dietary by those who argued that the bill
would, if enacted, be an infringement
upon personal rights. AS concession to
this sentiment, an amendment was in
serted providing that the contraband
goods must be brought into the United
States for disposing Of the same
Whether the bill will receive consider
alton in this session depends on how long
the session Is protracted. Its friends are
confident that IL will eventually become
a law. They point out that the pubhca-
tons which have been made to the effect
that it would interfere with church fairs
and similar enterprises are unfounded,
since Congress has no jurisdiction in the
matter, except over mails, or in the mat
ter of commerce between foreign nations
and the United States.
THE TARIFF BILL.
NEW YORK, July Ex-senator Brice
was at Manhattan Beach to-day. He said
he thought the tariff bill would pass IN
the form as amended and adopted by
the Senate. He said three or four of the
Senators Che would not mention any
names) were in very peculiar position.
They had early pledged themselves,
purely in the interests of party unity, to
support the bill, and this, notwithstand-
ing the fact that they objected to the in
come tax, and therefore to the bill, would
much prefer to have stood out against it.
But the Senators had stood firmly and
manfully by their pledge through all the
parliamentary exigencies OF the fight, and
had thus preserved intact the body of
forty-three Senators for the bill.
These Senators now" he went on,
closely watch any attempt to change
that bill from its form as they supported
tunity which change in the bill would
give them to bolt and go over with him
into complete opposition to the bill"
Senator Brice was asked what he
thought of Mr.. Hill's speech in support
OF Cleveland. The Senator replied that
such speech was directly in line with
Hills policy of opposition to the bill
he had continually maintained. Hill was
therefore perfectly consistent in standing
up for Cleveland.
Mr.. Brice said the Senators did not
view Senator Gorman's speech as an
attack upon Cleveland. German simply
stood up for the Senate i'll reply to
charges made by Cleveland in what had
been private letter. but afterward by its
publication became public communica-
ton.