The Scranton tribune. [volume] (Scranton, Pa.) 1891-1910, 1894-06-16
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property of the country is. There is no
truth whatever In 1t rs far as ! am con-
cerned.
l was never present at any conference
or meeting where any such subject was
discussed. / WIS at the Arlington hotel
on the evening of the 9TH of March last,
at the room of II. L. Terrell, OF New
York (for the past 30 years one Of my most
Intimate friends. called at Mr.. Terrell's
room for the purpose of meeting him and n
common friend, New York lawyer in
terested in railway matters, and not con-
cerned with or interested in the tariff bill
in any way. We spent perhaps an hour,
Ur an hour and u half without any other
person being present. Mr.. Terrell said
that Henry HHvemeyer was in tho hotel.
requested that he send for Mr.. Have
meyer, that might got Mir. Havemeyer's
statement, pre'uming him to be the best
informed man in the country on that sub
ject. He came. and after few minutes
talk on the subject | said to Mr.. Have
meyer that there was strong feeling
AGAINST tax on sugar, and against anv
additional tnX on refined sugar, aud that /
had great doubt whether the senate and
the house would not put suger both raw
and refined, on the free list.
MR. HAvEMEYER's OPINIONS.
Mr. Havemoyer became pretty earn
est, and while do not rocolect his exact
words he attacked the policy Of the Dem
ocratic majority in the senate and house
rs being destructive Of the manufacturing
interests of the country. This | resented
and said TO HIM that while | was from
state, which III my judgment favored free
sugar both raw and refined, and had no
manufacturing sugar interest IN it would
do what was fair and right, if he and other
retluers could satisfy mo what that was,
but in no event would Iconcede more than
half the difTerential in favor OF refined
sugar allowed by existing or Mckinley law
that was Inclined to believe that there
was some protection to the reilners in an
ad valorem schedule. He stated that there
was absolutely none and the discussion
continued for II little while on that point
AT this time Senator Smith, Now Jersey,
who had been informed at my house that
| had gone to call Oh Mr.. Terrell, came
into the room. No talk on sugar, how
ever, or on the sugar schedule occurred
after he came in, except that think Mr..
Havemeyer made some reference to the
fact that ne and | had been having an eX-
cited discussion or difference, or
wrangle.
the Philadelphia Press that Senator
Brice hal procured cony Of the 400 |
amendments to the tariff before they
Were reported from the finance com.
msttee and turned them over to his
brokers
Did you furnish, or procure to be turn-
ished, such list OF amendments? he asked.
Senator Brlce-I did not. | may say that |
| never saw the amendments or knew any
thing about them personally, either by in
Spectlon or By hearing, until they were re- |
ported to the seGate-eXcept one or two |
amendments.
INNOCENCE UNIFORMLY PROTESTED.
Theodore A. Havemsyer denied that
he had ever been present on II, G. BEN
edicts yacht (aS charged in the Phill- |
delphia Press in the summer OF 1892 |
and discussed sugar interests with Mr. |
Cleveland or taking part in any such |
discussion at Greenwich, Conn. He |
had not been in Washington for seven
teen months, perhaps two years and |
therefore did not know anything about
the conferences between sugar trust
men and senators. The sugar trust,
of which he is vice president, had not |
made any contributions to secure OF de. |
feat legislation, but he thought it had |
made contributions to political parties
in state campaigns, he knew it had not |
in national issues. Witness did not
know of any speculations made
by any senator. directly or in
directly. and he had never call
ed on any senator for infor-
nation as to the value Of sugar stocks,
nor given them pointers nor received
any information from a senator about
the pending tariff bill. Senators
Chandler, Call, Carey. Cullum and
Cole all testified in turn, answering
fully and without evasion, every ques-
tion from member of the committe
The gist OF their replies was to the eff
feet that they in no way had relations
with the sugar trust directly or indi
rectly.
Senator Hill was examined Mr..
Hills testimony went to show that the
only conversation held at Senator
Brice's house when he was present was
a general discussion of the tariff bill I
and there were present on that occasion
Senators Brice, German. White, CAT
frey and Murphy. No agreement was
reached and the discussion was weary