The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1894-06-06
IT'S ABSOLUTELY FALSE,
SAYS 0AsTOy WHEN Examined RI
INVBSTIGATISG cOMMITTEE.
Tho Newspaper Accounts of what He Is
Reported to Have Heard About the su-
Enr Trust are without Foundation.

WASHINGTON, y. c., June 5.-The
committee investigating the Sugar Trust
gave out tonight the testimony Of Water
Iaston. the wire manufactured, who
occupied the room next TO Mr.. Terrill, at
the Arlington Hotel. and upon whose
statement TO a congressman was based the
article in the New York Mail and EX-
press, which is one of the topics cOnsid-
cred by the committee. The article was
read TO CASTOR and he said:
with the exception OF the fact that
/ was in the room. that 1 overheard d
conversation on sugar; that l tod con-
gresham the next morning that from
what ! heard / did not believe the VII
son bill would pass, nor any other tarlu
bill, unless a better bill, fl Is absolutely
manufactured out Of whole cloth, abSoute-
ly false from beginning 10 end
In telling this Congressman We had
confidential relations together Tor some
time: | told him this In pure confidence,
without giving him details. ] told him
that no senators had been in the room. L
mentioned nobody. i simply tod him
that from a sugar conversation the night
before in an adjoining room, i did not
believe the Wilson bill would pass, nor
any tariff bill unless a much more IA
vorable bill for the various industries OF
the country were framed. That 1 Will
admit"
DID NOT KNOW The VOICE.
He then told that upon having awakened
he learned from the conversation in the
adjoining room that the sugar men We're
not satisfied with the sugar schedule Of
fered by the subcommittee Of the Finance
Committee. lie did not recognize the
voice Of any person in the room, although
IL was these persons who were dissatisfied
with the sugar schedule. From the gen.
eral course OF their conversation he was
sure they were interested Ia sugar.
He denied that he arose and peeped
through the key hole. The only reason
that ne thought senators were i'm the room
was the familiarity they displayed in
what had been going on in the subcom-
mittee Of Finance that day.
He had never said to anyone that he
recognized the voices Of senators. 1t was
his understanding that the subcommittee
had offered the sugar industry 80 per
cent. ad valOrem and One-eighth Of a cent
dinerential for refined sugar. and this was
unsatisfactory 10 the men In the room,
and from what they said he was sure that
the Wilson bin would be defeated. He
was asked concerning statements In the
newspapers. and declared most Of them
absolutely false in every particular. He
knew Mr.. Terrel was IN the room because
some one came in and said: "Good even
ing, Mr.. Terrell"
ONE WAS FAMILIAR.
One Of the men seemed more familiar
with the subject Of sugar than the others.
and was cOmplimented h'- the others for
his knowledge. There was 10 politics IN
this discussiOn-all sugar and some social
Asked as to why he thought the bill
would be defeated. he said:
"The interests Of one I'm the tariff mat
ters should be the interest Of all. and ]
knew. or / thought ! knew that the
sugar men could not get IL an, and that
II would have 10 be live and let live as
it is in all these matters. Therefore, If
the sugar men were better taken care
Of the other schedules would be better
taken care OF. That was my inference,
and IL was not an unnatural one
Senator Allen: l understood you 10 say
a while ago that you knew the sugar
Trust had it I'm tneir power TO defeat
this bill, If not satisfactory 10 them?
Mr.. Castor: Yes, sir.
Mr. Allen: What 10 you mean by that
Mr. Castor: ] mean this-There are
two senator's from Louisiana and I'm
Louisiana there is a bounty Of two cents
on sugar. The sugar interest having GER
tain senators representing II, in the close
ness Of the vote I'm the Senate, Of course,
there Is not q very great margin. There
IS Senator Hill and Senator Murphy and
Senator Smith IN opposition TO the income
tax. Put these things together and with
a margin as small as you know IL Is the
Senate. at least | presume II is -.
He went on and stated in a general
way he thought the various senator's who
would not approve certain features of the
bin would combine with the sugar men I'm
this and defeat the bill. This he Inferred
he did not know anything about IL.
He did rot give the name Of the con-
gressman that ne told Of the conversation
and was given until tomorrow 10 decide
whether he would give the Congressman
name or not.