Evening journal., 1894-01-17
1T CAN GO TO THE COUNTRY.

Neither In set speeches nor in the
seated running debate have the Repub-
licans matched the Democrats in Con-
gress. The debate on Monday was
notable instance Of the fact that protec.
tionism leads to logical and physical
absurdties. In two cases Bourke
Cochran has demonstrated this so
clearly that the protection orators have
been ANONYMOUSLY routed He induced
one unwary debater 10 admit that 1t Is
better TO exchange $250,O0 worth of
goods that we have. for $3.50, 900 worth
of some other kind of goods that
some other country has, rather
than TO get $3.50. 600, or to pay
$3.50, 900 in gold. That destroys one
OF the dearest p. otectionist fallacies. It
admits the contention that trade is a
system Of barters equally beneficial to
both paIties-that it is not commercial
war. Referring to the debate yesterday,
Washington correspondent gives this
graphic description,
MIR. Cochran broke into the discussion
at this point and asked Mr.. DeForest
whether he meant to maintain that the
rate Of wages depended upon trades
unions or whether II depended upon the
law Of supply and demand
81 do not want" he added when Mr.
Payne began TO make some general state
ment miscellaneous information, but
information on the subject"
you must frst, Mr. Payne replied,
give the manufacturer the ability to
pay the wages as a condition precedent.
But will he do it2' Mr. Cochran
asked, impetuously. "Will no do It will
be do IL if he can help it2' Cries OF
Yes T. "Yesi' from the Republicans,
and OF mo" mol from the Democrats,
amid great excitement
He will not do IL Of his own free
will, Mr. Payne admitted, unless he is
compelled to by rades.unions. The
trades unions will compel him and can
compel him" The crowds in the gal
leries caught up this declaration and
cheered IL with might and main--t the
chairman, meantime, endeavoring TO re-
strain the disorder
Mr. Cochran asked whether Mr.. Car
negie and the proprietors of the Home
stead mills had not abundant means e
meet the demands of the laborers wher
the strike occurred there.
Commenting on this admission, to tn,
dlscomdt of the Republicans, Mr.. Cock
ran said that the point Of Mr.. Payne
argument which had struck him will
most force was the utter breakdown il
the theory of the distribution Of profits
II trades unions were the only methods O.
distribution that would force the manu-
faoturer to divide his profits with labor
he asked how it had worked at Home
stead, where there was not a union maj
employed to day. How, he asked, wer,
profits to be regulated in the future wher
the trades unions were wreckedY
Mr.. Payne.-''I have already stated tn,
enormous wages paid at Homestead, bur
whether those wages were all that Mr.
Carnegie could pay do not know, no,
does my colleague know. But the fac
that Mr.. Carnegie preferred to sustain
loss of hundreds of thousands of dollar
by the suspension OF work rather thar
yield to the demands of the workingmei
convince me that the wages were at tn,
extreme height"
"Why could they not rather" Mr.
Cochran asked, distribute these hun
dreds of thousands among the worlJmenY 2
Because they thought it better " Mr.
Payne replied, Ito lose a few bundre,
Thousand dollars in few months thai
to increase wages for long period o
time, which would perhaps q do no
know destroy their ability to pay any.
"Now, said Mr.. Cochran, with an al
Of triumph, I'VE have the statement il
full at last Now, it can go to tn
country"