St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-06-26
Lulu Leyde Sworn.
Examined by DR.. Wheaton.


tell on an irGuiStion of this sort, but as far
as know now. l shall not
MIR. U Brien-Weil. then, we ask that the
witness be released from custody, Mr.. Butler,
as soon as possible.
Mr.. Butler-We can attend to that tomor-
TOW.
Mr. O'Brien-Gh yes; but can't it be done
by tomorrow morning! Will you call it up
tomorrow morning:
Mr. Butier-IIhink so. will say now that
if counsel has any objection to her testify
ing, don insist upon it in any way.
Mr.. e. Brien-We haven't the least objec-
tionto her testifying, excepting that she has
been arrested at the same time as the other
person, AID we simply want to know whether
you contemplate-your own ldes on that is
all wanted to get.
Mr. Butler-Well, I have given it to YOU
Mr.. OBrien-It lis entirely satisfactory,
Sir.
Q. You live in ST. Pauls A. Yes. sir.
O. Where! A. Well for the last Two
at iS0 West Fourth.
O. We're you there on the night.of the 22d
of June last: A. Yes. sir.
@. Wereyou there all the evening? A.
" by, / was there until 9:S0, about think.
z. Then where did rou go? A. Well.
from there we went out-Mrs Schicker and
], We took little walk UP and down i'll front
of the house in that same block.
@. How long were you walking? A,
Well. we went UP and down the street
once, looking to see where the fire was, to
see if we could see it. Tbenwe went back
and sat down on the front porch for few
minutes. don't know how long. Then
started out alone and walked up and down,
just little ways. Came back and went in
the house. then L came out again with her,
anc we went for another little STROLL
G. Did you meet any one ut that time?
A. That was on our way back TO the house
:yes;we were called by this person.
q. Did you know the man? a. Ne. sir.
did not
@. Never had seen him before? A. Yes.
had seen him many times. Ihave seen him
great many times. in fact on the streets
here in ST. PAUL, but never knew him.
Q. Where were yon when yoil met him or
when you were followed by him? A. Why.
We we're about half way between the hotel
and where we were living
Q. Between the hotel A. And where
We were living. yes-juSt this side.
Q. l5D? A. Yes when he spoke to US from
behinds callze up from behind.
z. " hat did'he say to YOU? A. When he
came up behind us. why he said something
to this effect, i beIieye: ~
Mr.. BuIler-Cna yon speak a little louder?
Witness Well, he came up behind us. and
HE was right sdirectly over my shoulder, /
think, when first saw him. heard him in fact,
] didn't see him until i heard him, and he
says: ''Hellu, girls, where are You going?"
think that is what he Said as near as can
rem ember. And then We =waiked-I had hold
of her afn-andwe Started on little faster
in order to get away from him. and he passed
me and stopped directly in front of me.
O. Which way were you going? "A. We
were going west-going up the street.
Q. Up towards Franklin? A. Yes
rot,c,itan hn,el.nd Ia,s zen .ne sleL
that as near rs reman,har .es' sif' ABOUT
g. Well, after he stopped in front of YOU
mo at r he go $3.50 s'oppS 1. Ia front OF
he sold ..TsSI Ero1v pc, p"eA '4eh.anq
said WAL ion,t pmc.v ,o,, ;, u el.h
like that And he said. well, thatI needn {
s,rore t,e,, 7 1on,, no 20 oe m,us, uesause ne
mart He said II was no,,e ~ repeas,Hg .nat
Am Obliged to saw hat BATE he u did ns Dusihess'
GorohefT" piiid you IKE % near 1t! :,
~ =o"IiS'-i Link she might as well
say u IT, s,,d :, NO..
oan,,, h,si,,ass sA'o ~ WAS none OF my 300
~ g TbaI, Sd ,s.
W. >, hsn IL VIM. nappsnea! =. he says.
&c lss; any ne says, no. II Is none OF your
sn.rt abu eneh NE says, you are TOO
a az ,aoout peihS 100 smart,
then as he did that IN 1a. a., as t1Inh,
ond Iaa nc so u.9 '.iii 10 get away from him,
adiu ne sass va u you are nothing but
wav We'll ihen T'i cr .ros pe eh any
looked ND and saw mon across th ser ssr.t
soid "a ;, pio9aois II inlshI De an othcer,
n,, nalu ~ nLllLI said sald. well. If
urns.i 40 PoacenlaIl, would nave yoil
f eor,'s I,e seFeei, Ior mad seen this man s
!, ,Eas ~ ,ig gpposie side. not showing VINO
!. was until l got over there; until got half
WI. 49, NE street. anu tnen, OF course, l
ieCGosIiEIZIeu VI; Alieh.
~ MIat ulo you say 10 MI. Alien? A.
..WiS az ssepl,eu up from lne WALK, said ::
go Eiie; .Tat man iiisuiied us AND he
Ia,d d no Is ne. SAID y don't know"
-anu .ueii L turned around to see what
Mmeae .t sie man vas ana he was coming
neioss tLie street aiter me. ANA as he stepped
up On Tue walk, why, Mr.. Allen says, why,
snnoeb guni lily lamp, ne is an right" or
49, III i.Ae tiiaI OF as much MS to say 1t
m ,sIs ~ fisnl ana Ior me not to be afraid,
Aiiu S me UP 70 meet ar. Ciapp-
T ~ n s, c .ial napkenen! A. Well, then
heard MT Ciapp say. Why. you ---
- WAT rlgnt nave you to interfere with
, iy nus!hess, or lnter!eTe between these
i,eup,e Ahu MI. Alien says.why-l
tOuiu ulliE near lady or something like
.na. my ifiehos. ana ne came over, the
sn idn eA AI tna5 ne dio on the other
eoMI6 ~ la.e S.reet. linen mat was al that
Couiu III, Lent 20. tnefe WASH any more said; that
"as All !Lat was SAID .hen
,,,G, n.at nappened a1ter mat! "A; Wen,
tlcn saw Mr. Ciapp las You call him)
stFthe Mr, aiieii IN me race and knock his
A'.s oii gu ~ Ioiseo over lnto the alley
ia ~. a ntr.,d,. I'M "A. Inen l mink Mr.
.o s'fuch nm. .Ihen Iney came together.
ooHiS,. ~ 1e very Siose together or 1
nouio II. teil nv. tuen WniGn-l mink 1t was
81, IL. M: Len Mr. Aiien struck MIN, put
toll "a, IT, enGn ~ ciose 70 MIN tnat Couldn't
.ban as ha IA ,tG. paca litie ways. ano
bis ha as nc oaI isL WHY MT Ciapp says pul
tile lanu paSk IKE tnis tlnolcatlng with right
i,. a toWarus MP pocket, but OF course !
s;dei and uh ms aa sioe sinaicaung deft