The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1894-06-01

have 10 resign or get permission.
The Chair appointed Messrs. Rice
| and Waterhouse as tellers.
On the first ballot ] l. Carter re
ceived ii votes, w. J. Sheldon Is, and
| Nahoolewa 6.
The President declared ]. L. Carter
elected.
J. W. Kalua moved that the offices
of messenger and janitOr be united in
one person. He would nominate w.
H. Kahumoku, of Maui. He had
been helping the Honolulu members
10 elect their man; now he wanted
them to help him elect his.
Mr.. NIvss nominated Henry Vierra.
He claimed that the messenger ought
10 be acquainted with the city.
Mr.. Kalua said this man Kahumoku
had been with us from the 18th day
of January, 1898, right along.
II. Waterhouse said he could cor
rob0rate everything Mr.. kalua had
said.
w. II. Kahumoku was elected, re-
eeiving IS votes TO Vierra's 5.
The Acknowledgement nominated
Rev. J. Waiamau as chaplain.
There being no other nomination
the Rev. ]. Waiamau was declared
unanimously elected.
John Ena nominated w. l.. Wilcox
as interpreter. He was unanimously
elected.
The Acknowledgement said he would
like to bring before the Convention
the question whether it would not be
well to employ q stenographer. OF
course there would be much said which
would not be worth preserving laugh
ter. Some would not like to have
words spoken in the heat of excite
ment placed on record, but he thought
it would be well TO have the reasons
which prevailed with the Convention
fully reported and preserved. He
would move that stenographer be
employed.
c. l.. Carter seconded the motion.
The value of the debate in the Con-
yention which framed the United
States Constitution had been very
great in assis ting the Courts incon-
STRUNG it.
The motion was carried.
The Secretary read a commuhica-
ton from the officers OF the American
Union Party em0odying the resolu-
ton adopted by them, and air, ady
published in the ADVERTISER, request
ing the Convention TO extend to l.. A.
IhurstOn the freedom of the floor
and OF debate. a further commune
cation was read from the Central Com
mittee stating that all the district
clubs had endorsed the foregoing reso-
luton.
c. l.. Carter thought there could be
none present who would not desire the
assistance OF Mr.. Thurston in the work
OF the Convention. He would move
the adoption of the resolution.
{. Brown agreed fully with the high
estimate Of Mr.. Thurston's character
and services expressed by Mr.. Carter
But he thought the resolution should
not be adopted. The Advisory Council
were in the Convention as by law
provided. The Convention should
conduct its deliberations alone. If
any committee should desire Mr..
Thurston's advice ana constance,
which would Ue most valuable, 1t
would be at liberty to get them. But
the Convention should not do so. AS
much as he would like personally to
vote for this resolution, he was unable
to do so.
The Acknowledgement thought there
was a little Misrepresentation about
this. He would not be made MEM
Der at all, but would simply be given
the freedom of the floor, without a
vote. He thought it would be of great
value to the Convention to have Mr.. !
Thurston here. The constitution was
for the government of this |
country, but it would also look toward |
to the United States, and |
on this head, his knowledge and ex-
perience would be of great use. There |
had been a Constitutional Convention |
in this country once before in 1S64-5,
and at that time the Judges of the |
Supreme Court had been called in and |
made members.
Judge Robertson supported the mo-
ton. Every member of the CoDven- |
ton wished all the light possible on
the difficult questions to come before |
it. His legislative and executive ex-
perienee here, and as Minister abroad |
would make his aid most valuable. II |
there had been any doubt as to the
passage of this resolution in the minds |
Of the American Union Party, Mr.. |
would have been their una
nimous choice for the vacancy in the /
Council.
Minister Damon regretted the in
PRODUCTION of tn, question of Mr..
Thurston's personality. There was a
right way and wrong way to come
into the Convention. The right way
was either to be elected by the people,
Dr. through the Advisory Council. If |
4 policeman has no right to come in,
though without a vote, then Mr..
Thurston has not. The rule should be
The same for the man at the bottom
4 the ladder and the man at the top.
Mr.. Baldwin appreciated fully Mr..
lhurstOn's services to the country
both here and abroad, and he knew
hat his services here would be valu-
ible. But he did not like the preced-
mt and thought it would be bad and
.ven dangerous. Some persons here
night prefer to have some one else
here, instead of Mr.. Thurston and be-
ore the Convention was through,
here might be half dozen favorites.
Gould one be admitted and the others