The morning news., 1894-06-13
HAVEMEYER HASAHEARlNC
The Sugar Baron Very Curt and Dis
dainlul Of Titles.

Asserting That He Has Never Seen
or Talked to President Oleveland-A
Newspaper Report of an Interview
With the President Pronounced Fio-
titious-Nothing Improper in His
Relations With the Senators.
washington, June 12.-Henry o. Have
never, of New York, president of the
American Sugar Refining Company,
known as the sugar trust, arrived in
Washington last night in response to
subpoena from the senatorial committee
engaged in investigating alleged relations
between senators and members of the
trust, and appeared before the committee
this morning as a witness. 1t was agreed
some time ago that Mr.. Havemeyer
should be called, but the committee de-
cided TO get all the information possible
from other sources concerning his con-
nectlon with the present tariff legislation
before placing him on the stand in order
that his examination might be complete
and thorough. The examinations of
Messrs. Terrill, Chapman and Reed were
conducted with particular reference to
forming basis for questioning Mr. Have
meyer, who is regarded as the most i'm
portant witness that has appeared before
the committee.
Mr.. Havemeyer was accompanied to
Washington by f. S. Parsons, the chief
attorney for the trust, and James C. Car
ter Of New York, who will represent him
as counsel Cord Meyer, of New York,
was also in the party. He will be ques-
toned closely about the alleged contribu-
tions of the trust to the democratic cam
paign fund.
A BLUNT WITNESS.
Mr. Havemeyer was the only witness
examined to-day. His answers to ques-
tiOns were curt, and he did not offer to
give information that was not requested.
MIR Havemeyer showed that he had no
respect for titles, in eliminating them alto
gcther in speaking of senators and others,
and he caused some astonfshment
among the members of the COM
mittee by his statement that he had
never seen President Cleveland Il am
president of the American Sugar Refining
Company, misnamed trust" said Mr..
Havemeyer in answer to preliminary
question. Senator Quay read the state
ment contained IN the Philadelphia Press
that the witness was present in the sum-
mer of 1898 after President Cleveland's
nomination. with Mr.. Benedict, either on
his Yacht or in conversation at Green
wich Conn, where Mr.. Havemeyer re-
sides, consulting about the sugar interests
as they were affected by the situation in
the Hawaiian Islands.
There is not a word of truth in it,"
said Mr.. HaVemeyer, mo such meeting
having taken place" He also denied the
allegations in the Press article that the
sugar trust was organized with reference
In ifC iDHuppnp the nOliflNal
ties. In regard to the statement that the
trust on the whole is democratic assOci-
alton, the witness said it was not So
The Chairman have already asked
you about the conversation Mr.. Edwards
alleged you had with MIR. Cleveland,
either in Greenwich or on the yacht in
the summer of 1892 or the summer of
1893. Did you ever have such converse
tion anywherel
HAS NEVER SEEN CLEVELAND.
Mr.. Eavemeyer-I never exchanged a
word with Mr.. Cleveland nor was ever in
his company in my life, ana l have never
seen the man.
The Chairman-You have never seen
him!
MIR. Havemeyer- have never seen Mr..
Cleyeland-cither in New York or else
where.
Senator Allen-Do you mean to say,
Mr. Havemeyer, that you have never seen
Mr. Clovelandl
Mr.. Havemeyer-I have never seen Mr..
Cleveland.
Senator Davis-You do not know what
he looks like, except from his pictures2
MIR. Havemeyer- Except from his pic
ture l suppose | would know him if l
saw him. Nor have / ever exchanged a
word with Mr.. Benedict on the subject of
sugar, or any other business matter,
whatever
With reference to the statement in the
Press, about meeting between senators
and sugar trust men in Mr.. Terrills room
IN the Arlington hotel, Mir HaVemeyer
said some time in March he was in Mr..
Ierrill's room when Senators Brice and
smith, and II. L. Reed, of Boston, were
present. There was nothing said IN that
interview about the obligations of the
Democratic party to the sugar trust. He
had been requested to go to Mr. Terrilps
room and found Senator Brice there.
MIR. Terrill said: Here is an oppOr
tunity to tell the senator's what you know
about sugar.
MIR. Havemeyer sent for his sample
boxes of sugar, and delivered lecture on
the subject,
A wRANGLE WITH BRIoE.
Senator Smith came in later, and the
witness made some allusion TO the wrang-
ing he and Senator Brice had about
sugar.
The Chairman-You said you had been
having a wrangle with MIR. Brice over
sugar
Mr.. Hayemeyer Brice and l got over
The matter before we finished 1t.
The Chairman-ln what way and on
what account2
Mr.. Havemeyer-I said something
a4out the Democratic party that he took.
umbrage at, thought.
Inc Chairman-Whatw was said2
Mr.. Havemeyer-I said that the Demo
cratic party were put into power. not to
destroy any industry, but to take suita-
ole and proper care of every industry,
ana that this selection of the sugar re
ming industry of the United States for
ing
The Chair-Was that the matter about
which YOU call the wranglingl
MIR. Hayemeyer- is the matter
over which we got rather hot
me Chairman-What did Mr.. Brice
have to say2
BRICE WANTED TO DO RIGHT.
=, Mr., Havemeyer-B -Brice said he thought
the Democratic party felt disposed TO be
!alr about the matter, but did not appear
70 nave anybody who would shoulder the
incubus of the sugar trust; that he was
NOJ particularly interested in IL n 6 il was