The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1894-06-06

mittee, as such would deprive the
Convention Of the educational value
of discussion The remarks OF the
honorable Councillor Damon about
conditions in times past did not ap.
ply. Then the head OF the govern
ment was absolutely irresponsible.
He could not be removed nor i'm.
peac he'd, and there was no check up
on him other than certain powers
granted Ministers and Legislature
by the Constitution. The President,
OF the United States had more power
than almost any sovereign in the
world, but in this draft the Presi-
dent was hedged with restrictions.
In making appointments and in other
acts, he could only act with the APP
proval Of a Minister or Ministers.
BY depriving the President of all
power Of independent action, the
position would be lowered in digni-
ty aud efficiency, and it would he
hard to get any able man to accept
the office.
Del. Baldwin, after hearing the
Presidents explanation, would with
draw MS motion.
The section then passed
Del. Carter proposed new section
to be numbered 5, as follows: when
ever requested so to do by the Presi-
dent and three Of the Cabinet, a
Minister shall resign" Although
the contingency making such a sec
ton desirable might rarely II ever
arise, the experience Of the past die.
tated the wisdom III such pro-
vision. He instanced by Inference
the case OF the division in the Re.
form Ministry Of 1890, when one
Minister blocked vital item Of pub.
lie policy. Who could tell what far
reaching and momentous results to
the country had arisen FROM that In.
cidenti
Del. McCandless seconded the
amendment.
Del. Robertson was against the
amendment. BY the spirit Of this
Constitution the Senate would prac.
tically elect the Cabinet. After the
Senate had signiiied its approval OF
a set Of Ministers, he thought |,
would be wrong to give the Presi
deut and a portion Of the Cabine,
power to change the personnel. II
there was anything in the family
compact cry, he thought this propo
sitiop lent Il additional force.
Del. Iosepa favored the amend
mcnt. repeating Del. Carriers argu
ment from 1890.
Del. Lyman cited Article %, Civ
ing the President the appoiu, mem
Of the Cabinet, and Article ~, say
ing members Of the Cabinet shall
only be- removable with the consent
Of the Senate. The proposed sec
ton would practically uullify tn,
Senate's control Of the Cabinet. TIL,
speaker preferred to leave tn. mat
ter ~ IL stood.
Del. Carter considered that tn,
control OF the Senate was fresh reas
on for the change. 4 majority o
the Senate might put an anti.annex
aiionist into the Cabinet who wuul,
us. his influence to defeat the poll
, cy Of the Republic. The Senate still
had TIA" power Ia pass upon achang
Of Ministers, so that the argumen
r ON that score did not apply
, Coun. Brown, IN view Of the pro
vision Of Article ~, thought the Con
vcntion should give the matter yer
. careful confederation. He move,
I the amendment be referred to tn
Committee on tn. Executive.
4 Del. Robertson contendcd agai
that the proposition was inconsi,
O.. tent with the tenor Of other parts 4
the draft.
Z Del. Carter accepted Cour
1 Browns motion to refer To commi,
!. tee.
|. The motion to refer resulting in
4 ito ON standing vote, the motion wa
lost on the following aye aud ma
. vote:
4 Ayes Baldwin, Brown, Carte
A Dole, Fernandes, Hatch, Horne
!. Kahaulelio, Kauhane, Lyman, NJ,
r. Candless, Mendonca, Rice, ". {
Smith, Vivas aud q. y. Wilcox-l'
a Noes ,bles, Allen, Damon, Eu
~ meluth, Ena, Hitchcock, losep
d King, Kunuiakea, Morgan, Not
/, Robertson, d, b. Smith, Tenne
r. NateIhouse, ~ -, WILCOX, Nllu'
.. aud Young--ls.
.. Del. Carter moved the section |
10 made the special order Thursds
/. morning.
Del. Baldwin favored this motto
/. He was against the amendment no,
but wanted time for consideration
m There was evidently a doubt in ii
h. minds Of the Ministers themselve
il Vice Pres. Wilder called for a 70
Ar on the amendment. He looked {
the vote just taken as indicating Il
n certain defeat OF the amendment.
n Coun. Warehouse moved Il
!. amendmen, he laid on the table.
re Del. Carter did not think Il
n question should be disposed Of SUI
m marily. He thought the Ii mel
beers who were evidently in favor
il the amendment entitled to sor
nj consideration.
ii Coun. Warehouse withdrew
ns motion.
IA Del. Ables while opposed to Il
ID amendment On the grounds stat
a by Del. Robertson, still felt that
10 supporters were entitled To consid'
rv alton.
u. The motion to make the mat,
Id the special order for Friday
nj amended) was lost.
Hal r.rtnr ,yit IA A rau his anna,