The Hawaiian star. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu]) 1893-1912, 1894-06-13

caused him 10 hope that the motion t.
strike out would not prevail
Mr. Damon was opposed to striking
uut the section. ~ tie past the Puvy
Council had been of vast service to the
Executive. At times the Executive
needs to call in advisers aud properly
constituted body would add materially
To the strength Of the Government. II
such was not provided, we might drift
into that system Of back stairs ad.
visers' so obnoxious and unfortunate in
past history.
y. 49, Smith was in favor Of the
Council, but moved to call it Coun.
cillors of State. If we did not have
this body it would he necessary to
have an emergency fund to be used in
case of war, invasion or pestileuce.
The President seconded this motion.
Mr.. Nivas thought the President could
always have competent men to advise
with without the Advisory Council, and
If it became necessary to call the
Senate together, that could be done.
Minister Smith said that if a house of
this kind were kept it would do away
with the difficulty in having biennial
sessions of the Legislature. Important
matters affecting the public interests
would come up, and 1T would be OF great
value, outside of its Legislative power,
to the country. This body would be a
legal power, and might be an indispen-
sible institution in the case of public
disaster.
Mr.. Baldwin thought it unwise to
strike out. The value of the Privy
Council had always been recognized in
this country. Contingencies were
bound to arse, and to strike this out
the whole power and responsibility
would devolve upon the President.
This responsibility should be partly
borne by representative Council He
favored two Councils with twenty men
/ in place of the one with five.
Mr.. Tenney could see VIII, r. the por-
posed Councils might prove OF advant-
age, but he could also see where the
body would be a danger. The powers
accorded this body were too great. and
here is where the back stars III.
fuence would come in. The play would
be upon these of the Advisory. He
moved to strike out.
Delegate Robertson agreed that the
Council was given too much power, but
he thought they should be given some
power. He thought the Council with
the appropriation power and the ad-
visory power would be good thing for
country to have.
The motion to strike out was lost
The motion to change the title to
councillors of State" was passed.
Mr.. Damon thought the section did
not provide for connection between the
/ Executive Council and the new Council
/ of State. These bodies should meet an
consult together whether the former
were given "A vote or not, and he would
offer the following amendment; "The
Executive Council shall he ex-officio
members of the Council of State and
shall be entitled to vote"
MIR. Carter questioned the ACCESSIBILITY
of admitting the Executive Council as
ex-oflicio members of the Council of
State. The constitution already pro
vided for requests from the Executive
upon the Council of State.
Mr.. Tenney moved to strike out
"shall I've entitled to vote" in Mr.
Damon's amendment.
Minister Smith was in favor of the
Council of State having limited power
to be exercised exclusively in case OF
emergency, and in that case he wa,
opposed to the admission of the Elk
ecutive Council as ex-ofiicio member,
of the larger body. If the Council OF
State was to have legislative power tn,
Executive Council had no right to vot,
in the exercise of this power.
The committee then took recess tC
80 this afternoon.