Abilene weekly reflector. [volume] (Abilene, Kan.) 1888-1935, 1894-02-01
CARLISLE EXPLAINS.
The Secretary Before the House
Judiciary Committee.
HIS FORMER VIEWS CHANGED.
lie Thought at First That Bonds Could No,
Lawfully he Issued, but Now Be-
lieves Otherwise Tho Repub-
llcan Position.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 2G.-For the first
time in this congress every member Of
the Judiciary committee OF the house
attended its meeting yesterday, tho
magnet being Secretary Carlisle's state
ment OF his position ON the bond issue.
The resolution of Representative Bal
ley, OF Texas, declaring IL TO be the
sense of the house that the secretary
has no authority to apply the proceeds
of the bonds to any purpose but re-
sumption, was before the committee
MIR Carlisle spoke in an informal
manner for an hour and half. and
was questioned by several members Of
the committee. II was held by the
secretary that the law conferred upon
him the authority TO issue bonds, al
though he stated frankly that until re-
Gently he had not entertained that
opinion of the question. Great pres
sure has been brought to bear upon
him, he said, for the bond issue,
and, although he regretted the me-
cossity for it, us the step did
not seem to meet the unanimous
approval OF the party, yet II was plain
to him the necessity was imperative at
this time. A deficit of SIS, 600, 900 would
exist at the end of the fiscal year, he
estimated, under existing conditions,
or as a result of proposed tariff legisla-
ton, unless congress- gave relief 10 the
treasury, which he hoped 1t would do.
Representative Bailey asked Mr..
Carlisle whether he thought that I'M
der the law on which he based the
right TO issue bonds he was empowered
to devote the proceeds to the expenses
of the government or TO redeem notes
issued under the sherman act Mr..
Bailey explained he did not question
the right to sell bonds for resumption,
but did deny the proceeds could be APP
piled to other ends
The answer of Mr.. Carlisle was COM
prehensive and in the affirmative He
explained that most of the appropria-
tions made by congress stipulated that
any money in the treasury mot other
wise appropriated" should be used for
| carrying out the purpose of the act.
| Under this the secretary said he could
eXpend for current expenses all the
! money in the treasury whether or not
it was the proceeds OF bonds, provided
only that it was not otherwise appro-
priated lie had the power also, he
| thought, to sell more bonds as he saw
the necessity, governed by his own dis
erection so long as the state OF the treas
ury made 1t necessary TO borrow money.
The leading question from the reppb-
lican side was put by Mr.. Ray, Of New
| York, who asked: "Mr. Secretary, 1
desire to put this question, which you
can answer or not, as you think best
| The resolution declares that the pros
ceeds of the bonds proposed to be sold
can only be used by the secretary OF
tn treasury for the purposes declared
in the act of 1879, to-wit: Redemption
of United States notes. The question
Is this Suppose this committee thinks
that to be the law, do you think II wise,
! advisable or expedient for the house of
representatives TO so formally vote or
| declare2 Whether or not such declara-
| ton would embarrass the treasury dc,
partment and intensity the financial
strain now on the country"
The reply was; ~ do not want to
| tell this committee what TO do but
can say II would embarrass the treas
| ury department, although / hope 1t
will not become necessary to use any
OF the proceeds Of the bonds sold for
! the payment of the current expe Of
I the government"
Mr. Ray was the author of the MI
! nority report signed by all the repub-
/ lican members of the committee in the
] Fifty-second congress, which sustained
49,. ~ iaa,a honda
| the right of the secreUa,J - 80
I the democrats being at that time
opposed. MIR. Ray holds to his former
! position, but denies the proceeds of Q
bond sale can be used for current OK:
penses. The other republicans Of the
committee are thought TO be with hun
From the tenor Of the discussion II was
! judged that Messrs. Bailey. Of Texas.
Boatner and De Almond are In favor
OF the Bailey resolution. The com
mittee meets to-day to consider the
resolution and perhaps will reach a
vote upon whether II shall DO favor
| ably reported TO the house or not
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KANSAS Cry Mo-, Jan. %. Tho
Santa Fe railroad freight department
announces that on January 80 II will
make a fiat rate from Missouri river