The herald., 1894-06-12

NJ r.. Crandall, w est Nettiess W III AtoA
ande of 517 East Second street, and
Lucy Lee Rsdd, who resides with Mrs.
Thomson ct No. 1913 West Thirtleth
street.
Dnring the conversations, which
lasted for an hour or more, Mr.
Brodersen and Mrs. Crandall both ire
ouently, and at all times during the
conversation, asked questions OF ell
kinds, tending to orlminste In SONS
manner Mr., Orandall and Mrs. Thorn
son togethe. in some criminal actions.
Roth Brodeisen and Mrs. Crandall asked
Lucy Rsdd, who resided with Mrs.
Thomson. /. she had ever seen Mr.
Crandall and Mrs. Thomson together
and if che would give evidence to that
effect for them. To which question
Lucy Redd answered, ''Ne, she never
saw such things," and that no one else
had ever seen any such thing, to her
eertain knowledge.
Mrs. Crandall then proposed to Lucy
Redd il she would give and swear to
the kind of evidence that she and Mr.
Broderson wsnted that they would pay
her we'll for it. Lucy Reid then asked:
"WelI. Mrs. Crandall, what kind OF evil
dance do YOU want? What do you want
me to swear tot"
Mrs. Crandall replied: swell. Lucy,
you know great deal OF stun people
think ia evidence, is immaterial matter
and is not evidence at all. Now, what
we want you to swear to is thstyou have
saen Mr.. Crsndall and Mrs. Thomson to-
sether: that you have seen them in the
eame room together and making love to
each other. You know he stayed in the
house six or seven weeks at one continu-
Gus time. We want you to swear to
that. Now, Lucy, If you will swear to
these things for us and be our witness l
will pay you well, and when you and
Will get married you can come and live
at my house. will give you a good
home and wages" .
Brodersen then remarked: es,
Lucy. YOU know full we'll you know all
about Mrs. Thomson and Mr.. Crandall,
and YOU can swear to these things for
Mira. Crsndsll and she will pay you well
for it." -.
To all which Lucy replied: Mrs.
Crsndall, l never saw anything OF this
kind in ell nv life between Mrs. Thorn.
SON and Mr.. Crandall, and l was raised
bv Mrs, Thomson and have lived right
in the house with her for 10 years. No
body ever saw any such things IN ell
their lives, and If they would swear to
such things they would swear to some
thing that was not true, and If anything
of this kind had ever taken place l
would have known it,"
Mrs. Crandall replied: "We have
already made arrangements with one
witness who will swear to 1t, but we
want two or three to swear to it, be-
cause the more witnesses we have the
better our case will be-"
Mrs. Crsndall then said: why,
Lucy, don't you know Mr.. Crandall once
at Long Beach gave me 30 grains OF an
tipyrin and that l did not know any
thing for six months, and that he tried
to kill me and don't you know when l
went to the Sandwich islands he cent
man along on the steamer, who be had
instructed to throw me overheard. and
the only reason why he did not accom-
plish bis purpose VISA because | was sick
and confined to my stateroom all the
way overp"
Lucy replied: mo, che never heard
of any such things in all ner life, and
that MIR. Crandall never stayed any six
or seven weeks, nor any such length OF
time in Mrs. TbomsoE's house" She
knew that Mr.. Crandall had known Mrs.
Thomson and her family for many years,
and that Mrs. Thomson looked on Mr..
Crandall as good friend. Mr.. Gran
dali frequently came to dinner, and
whenever Mrs. Thomson had any card
parties or anything OF that kind Mr..
CraRdall was always expected.
Then Brodersen told Will Alexander
and West Nettles to come out on the
porch; that he wanted to talk to them.
This was about 10 o'clock. and after they
had been talking for an hour or more in
the front room. When Brodersen, Net
ties and Alexander reached the porch,
Mrs. O. d. Thomson and E. E. Gran
dali, who were standing directly back oil
them. in q room at window, the sash
of which was raised and the curtain
pulled down, and not more than three OF
four feet away, Mrs. Thomson and Mr.
Crandall heard the following conversa-
ton:
Nettles asked Brodsrsen what it waE
that he (Brodersen) wanted to prove
Brodersen replied, well, will tell yor
plainly what | want. l have got ont
witness already provided for. Nov
what want is one. two or three more
even if could get 10 it would be 80 much
better for our case. Ii you can't ge
Lucy to swear to it. then get somebody
l don't care who you get. but get TWO o
three, and we want them to swear tina
they have seen Mrs. Thompson and Mr.
Crandall together; that they have seel
Mrs, Thomson and Mr.. Crandall unde
suspicious circumstances in the cam
room together; that they have hear
Mrs. Thomson say that she was going t
have Mr.. Crandall send his wife to Hon
olulu, and that when Mrs. Crandall wa
gone she and MIR. Crandall we're going t
have good time together. That the.
heard Mr.. Crandall and Mrs. Thomson
both frequently say that when they wer
able to dispose OF Mrs. Crandall the
were going TO be married.
''If you will get two or three viii
nesses to swear to all these things. ant
come up to my office on New Hig
street, just back of the Phillips block
ON Monday next, batween II and
O'Clock in the afternoon, and put it dow
in black and white and make oath to
before me, I will sive you five hundre
dollars ($E00)-one-half ($250) cash o.
Monday, and will then give You a writ
ten guarantee, in black and white, t
nav YOU the other half ($250) when tn
suit is ended"
Broderson said be used to have colore
men work for him back in Pennsylvania
and he always trusted them, and "whe
| did they always trusted me. i ar
honest and l always manage my case
this way, and always live up to my agree
ment.
'Iknow of my own knowledge that MI
Crandall sent a man along on tn
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