The evening world., 1894-09-12


who said he would take care OF them,
in answer to the Chairman's question,
Stern said he did not remember that
Haniey had ever pawned more than one
watch at his shop but would examine
his index-book and ascertain. ~,
Henry Kramer was then called He
said he was a collector for George KING
Ter a Co, the brewers, of Ninety-sixth
street and Third avenue.
Traf,ic in saloon Licenses.
Ibid you ever make an application. for
a saloon license in the name OF haFl
Werner or .Gustave Wasnerg ..,, -,
mo, sir, but came into possession OF
such license for the. place at Firth
street and Avenue b. l applied Tor the
license in my own name. | had an IN
terest in. the place as an agent OF the
SThai is common custom among
brewers to have agents for this pur-
posey'
''They go to the. Excise Board and
make application for licenses for sa-
looms in various parts of the city,
The witness explained that the license
was in his own name, and as soon as
the manager of the place paid over 70
the brewery certain amount I'M 'he The
business in this instance was TO d.
conducted by Washer.
1t was simply method pursued ,r by
brewers of investing their money. Inc
license was held as security.
'Did Washer ever have any trouble
with the police 2" inquired MT G a,s n,ace
was closed because Washer got out a
card in which he held himself out as
the proprietor Of the place. ! wen to the
Captain and told him the place DID not
belong to Washer, and he showed me
What Captain was it?"
"Didn't you say to the Captain that
you would like TO see any captain In
New York close place of yours, so
long as you were doing 'es'tifna'e
mo, sir; I simply told him that the
business was not owned by Wasner
Didn't you tell Washer that he ought
not TO fight the police?'
"Didn't you say you couldn't afford to
fight the police , on account OF your o'her
p"So. sir. / simply shut up the place. "
"But didn't you know you had a right
to run your place even though Masner
claimed to he owner| asked Senator
Eyes: but the captain told me as long
as Washer was there he would nave 10
close the place. He wouldn't peheVe
"Why did you close them
II didn't want to have any troup'e
Nov we have it at last. That will
do" said Mr.. Goff.
Karl Werner was then called. He said
in order to conduct his business.
You testified here before that you had
paid money to the police for protection.
and also that you had kept disorderV
house?' inquired Mr.. Con-.
Eyes, sir"
Mr.. Con- then stated that in recently
published Interview with Mr.. Wellman
there had been very serious mi, state,
ment of facts. This was to the eHec'
that when Warner had testified before
the Committee that he was actually IN
state Prison. He had called the wit.
ness to correct this mistake and to set
Mr.. Wellnan and others right ,.,u
The specification oa ,Se ce on W W capt
Cross in his trial by the Commissioners
stated that at various times IN Apr, ,,
and May, 1892, the Captain or ms WARD war,
man had received sums OF money from
Werner, while he was keeping dis.
orderly house in Delaney street; IL
was claimed by Mr.. Wellman that Wer-
hut Mr. Con read from his testimony
before the Committee to show that nj
had not SO testified. -.
was calculated. II not contradicted, u
discredit the testimony OF witnesses
taken before the Committee. . A.
weiiman had studied the record more
carefully" observed Chairman LcXow
"before preparing, his specifications 49,
'Mr. Wellman had II copy or all the
testimony taken before the Committed
added Mr.. Gof.
Werner said he had not been inter,
viewed or Questioned by any oc SihSn t,on ~
against capt. Cross. He was IN aln
Tombs at the time 1t was not In lss2
but In 1898, that he had paid money foi
proteStio and the charge in the speclii
cations were all wrong. In 1892 he was
In prison, and had said So.
''The dates running all through the
specifications against Capt. Cross are q
year out of the way" said Mr.. Con-.
Werner went on to describe this ar
rangement with the Rtnsier Brewery
and how they kept the license as u
mortgage on the place. .,-.
The police did not know him when h'
took the place, and nobody In the neigh
borhood suspected THAI he had been q
witness before the LcNOw Committee
His barkeeper, Hugh Mccormick, how
ever, he thought, found out and gave
him away.
Carl werncr's New story.
"eTn days after took the saloon, one
Sunday evening, two ward detective,
came in. one of them was Cohen.
had given the bartender special In
structions not to let any one In unless
he knew him. AS soon as the two mer
and | said: For Gods sake what die
you let those men in for? They are
How did you know they were detec
why, / could tell the minute I saw
'AnytnlnS peculiar dDOul
feet?" asked Mr.. Goff, in "A tone of sur
prise.
They usually wear about No las AM
have thick soes," replied the witness.
The result was that both Werner an
his barkeeper were arrested, and h
had been in prison ever since, no
being able to get bail. The officers VIII
arrested him in court the next day sal
that Werner had tried to bride Their
and that made matters worse.
ut was lie. ! didn't offer anythn
to them"
"Was anything said then about yo
having been a witness before the LeNoN
Committee
mot then, but three days before tn
arrest my bookkeeper told me he ha
been 10 see Capt. Cross and that til
Captain had told him he knew all abou
me, that | had been a witness before tn
LeXow Committee, and had ba
record"
Capt. Cross had sent for me. hut
had not seen him. ! went to the static
once, but he was uu.. From what m
barkeeger tod me, | believe ] was al
rested simply because | nal testified h,
fore the Committee"
Werner said he was not arrested this
Sunday, but the following day. He r.
ceived the order to 30 to the station
see Capt Cross, and two detectives ha
been sent after him
Didn't you see Capt. Cross about YOU
lcense?"
Yes, the week before my arrest /