The evening world., 1894-10-01

blasting for the New York Central road
! In Fordham.
did you ever have any relations with
a policeman named Robert Higginbot-
| tom7' asked Mr.. Con.
IT don't know whether that was his
name, but know. l had some dealings
with a policeman"
| Mr.. Carpenter went on to say that
while he was blasting at Fordham, two
| years ago. he had some very rough men
to deal with. He sent for the fremont
police one day, when disturbance was
| threatened among the men. and an OFF,
Ger came up and remained during the
day. ~
| he wouldn't take II. saying that when
ever we wanted protection he would do
all he could for us.
mot long after that another officer
came to see us at the mine, and asked
| II we were doing anything for the police.
| We said we did not know that II was
necessary, and he replied 1t was Gus
| tomary.
II talked the matter over with my
brother. and the result was put $50
in an envelope and gave II to the book
keeper to give to the officer when he
called"
What did you give 500 for?"
well, We had to deal with good
many tough characters, and we wanted
police protection"
Was II one OF your foremen arrested
for blasting in manner not allowed by
NO. / don't think so. ! heard Of a
man man being arrested but l don't think 1t
Didn't you swear before the Grand
Jury that one OF your foremen was ar
rested and that ,ticer Hgginbottom
told you that you wouldn't be troubled
afterwards II you would do the right
thing?"
-" Yes. recollect now. did swear to
something like that" said Mr.. Carpen-
ter, after considerable hesitation.
The witness said he understood the ex-
preston right thing to mean that
the officer wanted money.
Who suggested $40 as the right
81 think it was one of the foremen at
the works suggested It,"
Meant Capt. Stephenson, He Says.
There is an entry in your books
which reads Capt s., $50 What does
that refer TOT"
II suppose that's the money we paid
for our police protection"
who was Captain"
1T must have been Capt, Stephenson"
admitted the witness. He was up at
fremont at that time"
After "A great deal of squirming and
wriggling, Mr.. Carpenter admitted that
he had paid the police so that they
would not interfere with his blasting,
and secondly to secure the good will OF
the Captain.
He said he paid $50 every month to
one officer or another, and that he never
knew the names of the men. 1t APP
peared by the entries in his books that
those amounts were sometimes charged
TO Capt. S. sometimes to Special
Officer" and sometimes to the Old
Man"
Couldn't Identify Higginbotham.
The witness said that he had identi-
fed Higginbotham as the man who had
collected the money at the quarry. He
admitted that he ad met Mr.. Wellman
and Mr.. Osborn at the Waldorf Hotel,
and that his testimony thara md ha
afiidavits he made, Higginbotham was
arrested.
And didn't you fail to Identify His-
ginbotham before the Grand Jury 20
man then"
- Didn't you tell Mr.. wellman that
hisglnoottom was the man. and that
you could Identify him anywhere?'
Al can say Is that when / had time
to think the matter over / could not
swear positively that 1t was higgin-
botham TO whom | had paid the money"
What made you change your mInd?"
asked Chairman LeXow.
cant explain 1t any more than /
have done already"
gagged In blasting out the Palisades near
Fort Lee to supply macadam stone to
various contractors in It's city, Yonhrrs,
tell what contractors in this city got
the stones. but he supposed some Of II
was used In the city streets.
me witness became quite indignant
when asked by Mr.. Goff who had APP
preached him after the meeting with
Mr.. Wellman at the Hotel Waldorf and
his going before the Grand Jury.
Didn't a man come to you and say
1t would be better for your business II
you failed to Identify Higginbottom?"
NO, sir. Never sir"
"Will you swear that no one talked to
| you about the matter? asked Senator
O'Connor.
No, l won't say that"
The witness said that when he met Mr..
Wellman ut the Waldorf the lawyer
seemed TO be very anxious to have him
make a complaint, and put words into
| his mouth and he was not quite sure Of
| himself that night Afterwards he had
| his doubts about the Identification OF
Higginbottom. and said so when he went
| before the Grand Jury.
| Il Will swear positively that no man
| spoke to me about the matter. or mad
| any such threat to me to my knowledge
| after the meeting at the Waldorf" as
| severated the witness in an impressive
| manner.
Could any man do II without your
! knowledgey' asked Mr. Con
| Yes, he might, ten thousand might do
| so, but l don't remember it," and the
| audience gigglei
After having some more fun with the
witness. Mr.. Con- excused him and re-
| taken