Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1894-01-07
CARDINAL ON LABOR.
htsrTisE With a Correspondent Of the
London Chronicle.
RIGHT AND VALUE OF ORGANIZATION.
Ting Differences with Cspitsi-Condi-
ton of Workingmen.


always been so. since IT IL the fundamental
question Of our time. next to the deeper
problem OF religion l would support any
and every reasonable demand OF labor.
short OF actually attacking any form Of
property that has been legally acquired.
You know that the Catholic Church has
always respected the invioIable social
rights OF property"
but how about certains forms OF pro-
pcrty believed 20 be immorally acquired?
For instance. your Eminence IS aware that
not few of your countrymen regard
such a capitaistic organization as the
Standard Oil Trust as having secured its
position by abominable means"
Il fear we cannot generally 20 back on
what Is done. We must be content 10
frame laws which will prevent unjust nc
QUESTION IN the future. il there has been
Injustice hcye at least the people have ac-
quicsced IN IL. We shall not benefit the
laborers by dcspoiling any class"
do you favor the immediate practical
programme OF labor organizations In Eng
land and America
Il am strongly In favor OF labor com
blnation. the denial OF which TO the work
ingrncn while the capitalists arc organized
into great corporations IS monstrous. SO
far as / know their programme 1 favor
81. bat give me some definite pointsy
"Wen, there IS, fOr example, the eight-
hour question"
al don't profess 20 be atle 10 discuss
she economies OF that question, for am.
20 20 speak n layman ia these things. But
I am strongly for greater leisure for the
people. Cricve that mon should live TO
toll. instead Of tOiling to live The idea
of mon grinding away their lives. COB
bling down their food seeing nothing OF
their families especially while other men
are unemployed IS monstrous. Let every
nan have leisure for enjoyment, domes-
tic life reflection. and culture. You re-
collect King Alfred's division OF his time
eight hours for sleep. eight for religious
duty. and eight for public WoIk. mat Is
ratiCial and right"
Are the working CLASSES here better on
tran they were; and DO you look ior
peaceful solution hero Of the great labor
pTohlCms?"
PEACEFULLY SOLVED.
eyes go far as baltimore is concerned.
the condition Of the workingman Is far
better than IL was. no doubt OF that Ana
] see no reason why, In the nlalh' tle
labor question should not be peacefuly
solved here There may, and probably
but there is II growing reason In America
witch Will deal nationally with these dlf-
pe,,lt nroblems l confess j do not Ike
ktrfkes, they seem 20 mo wrong In prln-
eFpie, ana they cause REORGANIZATION
which IS not easy 20 recuty.'
"What would your EHjnence suggest TO
rry4ent them7 Would you favor comp1l-
korv arbitTauonQ' ~
eyes. l look favorably on that i uliN
noch one Of our States and in certain IN
stances the Federal Government, shou!u
rtep m and compel warning facuohs 10
rorao 20 terms And this compulsory III
bitrotion might be supplemented by Volun-
-, orranFcunents through conciliatory
.,,.Shods approved by both capitalists |
- vsorIxp,e,. But the law should be aso
salied in ana the government cannot DC
Sss,,sr employed than It has been IN Eng
sana IN connection with the coaA uiS-
buta" -,.o,,,o for which
sh. Rnciish miners have contehueu. tna
-, me aiying wage IA n permanent part
-, ,ho cost of Production ana eN-
,elaned 20 the Cardinal the poCl's IN
Exraysd In the great industrln ""f !"
E,ngland. I'D. ,oo,, On
mach eases hut, generally speaking am
s.Its in favor or the idea that the hrst
shtns 70 be done Is 10 secure decent ne
Tor All honest workers. II the family can
not be oe< Gritty maintained ple S'"'e -,
sef which Is based on an honest 1aThIy
iire must be irreparably in)ured-'hat %
bound Catholic doctrine
OLD CATHOLIC FAMILIES.
"The Catholic Church in tho unftd
states f. believe, mainly composed OF
kage-earnersT ,.,,.. a.,
syyeI YES. in the main, especially IN
n,,r great cities There are exccpuohs'
hcweysr. we have fch men IN NV
York. and here in Baltimore Ihere are
bid Catholic families here. eachihY DICK
90 the founcauon or the CITY ana 'ne
state Of Maryland--old English Cathorc
Families 1 am glad 10 say. too, that
here and in Washin gton tho Catholic
Ehurch takes In a considerable portion OF
,be coIored population. We have 10000
90 40 coo negro Catholics In Maryland and
the District OF Columbia, and In Balu-
more we have two entirely colored
,burches In some OF our churcnes black
and white meet together. but generally
the preiudices are against IL. i reSltt !
those prejud.ces exceedingly, but we can |
not ignore this fundamental social tact |
Ia the South"
The conversG ton turning 10 olncr I'LL |
bects. j said
"The Catholic Church is maintaining ifs |
position through the United States your
tminenceY
"Oh, yes We have now eighty Eve
bishops,
organized. Our bishops and priests are |
All active In social reform, as well as IN
religious duty Several OF our arch
bishops for instance, are deeply interested
In the temperance cause"
rs your Church favorable, as a rule.
10 prohlbitory legislation against the drink
krafiic?'
some enthusiastic total-abstinenee bishops
but, speaking generally. we believe In
moral suasion first and foremost, sup
ported by moderate legislation OF a re-
ftrictiye character, but stopping short Of
prohibition In fact, prohibition has not
been success Local option. by which
zach community can detsrmine. is all
tight and works we'll but TO force the
eame kind OF regime all over a great
Ftate Ike New York or Pennsylvania,
b impossible and wrong.
What Kind OF law do you advocate?'
Il should say that four conditions are
pecesSary-high license. proportion OF
Plumbers OF shops 10 population. removal
81 such places from the neighborhood OF |
public schools and churches and the strict
responsibility OF the drfnk-seller for any
case of drunkenness. do not see how
NE can, as a community, 80 further than
that. II any particular district wishes
10 80 further. let 1t have power to do So"
ADMIT or NO COMPROMISE.
Turning 20 religion, what aid your En-
tnence think OF the Parliament OF Reli-
kions in Chicago, IN which you took
bartY
swell. we thought It our duty. unlike
fhe Anglican body. 20 take part In that
great gathering. giving Il TO be distinctly
understood that we were not TO sink our
Individuality or admit any compromise
ef our position. We welcomed the oppor-
bvnity TO make known the Catholic doc
brine TO a peculiar and distinguished audi
1nce, not likely 70 get under ordinary cir
pumstances any clear conception OF our
Views. We established bureau OF infor-
tnation and my judgment Is that what
be did was worth doing. Such chance
will scarcely recur In our time"
what do you think OF English mat
fers; do you interest yourself In them
ttasked the Cardinal
"Oh. yes: i note all that Is going on,
end our papers tell us much about En-
kiish affairs. I am sorry 10 say that your
Dress scarcely returns the compliment
kUkao afoartcap9 travail fB Europe |