The morning call., 1894-11-22
AFTER CLEVELAND
The President Wanted as
a Witness
Johnnie. Sherburn Tells of Converse.
tions With Southern Pacific De-
teCtives-New Evidence.

The dreary trial of the strikers is rapidly
approaching sensational stage. Failing
to obtain the ''privileged" communica-
tons that passed between the Federal fl
Gals here and in Washington, the defense
has decided TO summon all the leading
characters in the great drama that was
payed last summer and from their lips
gather the information it desires.
The strikers and their attorney contend
that when the strike commenced the man
ayers Of the railroads entered into a con-
spiracy 10 bring the w0rkiDgmen into sub
mission by agreeing not 10 handle United
States mails on any train of which Pull
man car was not part, If the strikers
then refused 10 handle the Pullman cars
they would of necessity also refuse to han
die mailcars which were part of the same
train, and the Government could proceed
against them for obstructing the mails
This conspiracy the strikers aliege was
not successful IN til Olney rendered his de-
cision that a mail train is a train as ordin-
arily made up with Pullmans attached.
Then the Government and the railroads
discovered that the strikers were violating
the interstate commerce law, and the
President was moved to send troops into
various parts of the country. The soldiers
fought and won the railroads fight.
Mr.. Mon teth has made several attempts
to get at the correspondence that passed
between Federal officers here and the
President during the trouble. He wants to
know who caused the President to send
troops into California, who informed him
that q rebellion existed here, and what part
the railroad aud its Federal friends and
hirelings played In the game that resulted
in the overthrow of the strike and the in
generation of a multitude of wUrkingmen.
Eve believe" Mr.. Monteith said at the
close of the trial yesterday afternoon,
that Cleveland, Oiney. the railroad man
ayers at Chicago and Federal officials all
over the country entered into conspiracy
to aid the corporations and down the
strikers. We have given notice that we |
will ask the court to issue sGbpspas for the |
appearance as witnesses in this trial OF |
President Cleveland and the others, We |
are preparing affidavits setting forth the |
necessity for their presence here as wit
nesses, and will demand subpenas for them
Oh Monday morning.
"Debs is procuring the names Of the
railroad managers who entered into the
con piracy at Chicago, and whether the |
President comes or not they must be COM
PEELED to attend"
The power OF Judge Morrow to summon
President Cleveland and members of his
Cabinet to testify at the trial Is q question |
that few attorneys care to answer. His |
Honor will OF discuss the matter uu til the i
affdavits ara presented.
Little Johnnie Sherburn, the boy who |
says he drove Worden. Apologize and five |
others to the treslle just before Engineer |
Clark's train was wrecked was on the |
stand all day yesterday and will be there |
again to-day. Johnnie stuck right man |
fully to the story he told at Worden's trial |
in Wood land, but made some admissions |
which went TO show that he had been |
rather friendly with the railroad detec-
II ole & hat hi
is sometimes very good and metimes very
bad
Sherburn stated that when Worden re-
turned from his trip to the trestle he threw |
the tools that he had taken with him into
a p le Of hop poles saying that he had done
a good ID.
you didn't say anything about that at
the Woodland trial." Monteith remarked.
81 did not think of IL them" was the
ready reply.
Mr.. Monteith asked Johnnie If his pa
rents had ever taught him that he would |
be burned up il he told lies.
mo, SIR" the boy answered.
''lf you told what was not true what |
would become of your?
81 might be sent to Folsom"
You say there were five men In the |
wagon with you. Worden and Apologize ?"
"There were"
what were the five men like?"
Johnnie could not remember.
you drove back over the road to the |
wreck with the railroad detectives. didn't |
You 2"
''Yes, sir"
And what occurred?"
I'VE fouhd the tools at the pile of hop |
poles"
Lawyer Monteith minated that the |
witness tolI a different story at Woodland |
and asked the boy whether or not he had |
been talking about his testimony with the |
railroad detectives.
81 have"
what detectives ?"
Gibson, Ahern. Ben True and Hickey"
What did hey 1T you say about it?"
johnnie could not remember.
when did you hear about the reward |
of $4,000 for the conviction of the persons
who caused the wreck?"
''On the day after the accident"
''Have you received any money YETI"
"NO. SIR
HAS your father?'
81 don't think So"
Wasn't he financially embarrassed at
the time of the wreck %
Attorney Knight objected, and the cues
ton was not answered. The trial will be
resumed this morning.