St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-03-15
NOT A STAB AT R0SEBERY
EXPlAHA TiON or THE RADICAL VOTE
AGAINST THE LORDS.
MR. LABOgCHERE EXPLAINS
That 1t Was Not Intended as a
Vote of Want of Confidence in
the Government The Com
mons Reject the Amended
Address and Pass Sir WILL
lam Harcourt's Substitute,

LONDON, March 14-When the house
OF commons met today Sir William Yer
non Harcourt, chancellor of the ex-
cheQuer, announced that the govern
Inent had decided to move the rejection
OF the amended address in reply to the
queens speech, when it is put from the
chair, and to substitute another short
address in reply. Rt. Hon. A. j. Bal
four. the Conservative leader in the
house, and Rt. don. Joseph Chamber
lain, the Unionist leader, assured the
government of their support in this
matter, but Mr.. Chamberlain added
that yesterdays proceeding showed it
was time that the government asked
their constituencies for a fresh man.
date. Henry Labouchere, the Radical
leader, said that the amendment to
abolish the veto power of the house OF
lords, which was passed yesterday, was
not intended as vote OF want of con-
fidence in the government. but it was
intended to quicken their action in the
execution Of what the majority of it's
supporters in the country demanded.
MI. LabOuchere added that the Radicals
were satisfied that the majority of yes
terday evening was the best they were
likely to get, and therefore they would
not oppose substitute for the address.
The house of commons was densely
crowded when Sir William Vernon Har-
court announced that the government
proposed to move the rejection of the
amended address. During the course
OF his remarks the chancellor of the eX-
cheQuer said it was proceeding for
which the government made itself re-
sponsible. They could not formally
PRESENT THE SOVEREIGN
with document for which they were
not prepared to accept the entire re-
sponsibility. The avowed object of the
amendment Incorporated into the ad-
dress was to raise a definite form of
action to be taken by the house of COM
mons in resisting the action of the house
of lords. The government fully accept
ed the declarations made on the subject
by MIR. Gladstone III the house of conf
mons.
Continuing. Sir William said that Mr..
iLabouchere had stated that the amend
ment might be taken as a motion for the
abolition of the house of lords. or as
motion limiting the veto power. But
responsible ministers, If they rendered
advice to the sovereign upon such
question, must tender no ambiguous ad-
Vice. They must make up their own
minds. He had consulted authority,
and, as the address did not express a
deliberate amendment of the mouse, the
government proposed to move the re-
lection of the address as amended when
it was put from the chair, and to substf-
tut, k,~r Ill r.
added that he had stated yesterday that
the government proposed to oppose Mr..
Balfour's doctrine that the house of
commons was to be subject to the con-
troll Of the house of lords. The govern
ment was not prepared to follow Mr..
1Iabouchere'S advice and create 500 new
peers. In order to make the govern
ment directly responsible, he, Sir Will
lam. would himself move new address
as soon as the amendments were dis
posed of and the present address mega
tIved.
Mr.. Balfour denied that he had ever
said that the house of lords should con-
troll the house of commons, ana called
attention to the fact that ninety Union
lists yesterday evening supported the
government, against
THIRTY GLADSTONIANS
who voted in opposition to the govern.
ment. Mr.. Labouchere said, in part:
''YOu may withdraw this address and
bring in another, but the first one re-
mains the decision of the house. We are
the representatives OF the people, and
the government are our representatives.
l do not recognize that the government
are my masters. l always regarded
them as the servants of the majority Of
the house. Whether you take the ma
jority of the members Oh this side of
the house, or the views of the
majority of the Liberals outside
the house. they are with me in this
and demand prompt, speedy and dras-
tic action. Outside the house they do not
care whether you abolish or destroy the
house of lords" Finally the house of
commons rejected the amended address
in reply to the queens speech, ana
passed the address substituted by Sir
William Harcourt. When the debate
on the address in reply to The queens
speech was resumed Timothy Harring-
ton and John E. Redmond denounced the
Defreyne evictiOns, aud Mr.. Morley
replied. The amendment of John j.
Clancy, to censure the administration of
the government in Ireland, as giving
encouragement to evlctions. assisting in
the continuance of jury packing. sup.
pressing public meetings. and as tend
ing to produce contempt for the law,
was then taken up and rejected by
vote of 351 to 1919. The house then re-
jected the amended address to the
queens speech, and passed the address
substituted by Sir William Vernon Har-
court. The house then adjourned.