The herald., 1894-10-25

at $4,000. and by March we will know
what each psrieh will give. A circular
will be sent to every vestry asking II 1t
can take up its share OF the burden.
do not wish to circumscribe discussion,
but cannot see what good it can do"
Rev. B. W. r. Tayler opposed the
reading OF any statement by Judge Lee,
as the figures might create false i'm
preston. BY the next oonvocation an
accurate return could be made. Ii the
statement was submitted and the con-
vocation repudiated the scheme. 1t still
would be passed upon by the conven-
tion.
Rev. A. Clark thought the commu-
nication with each vestry good idea
and carrying out the one dear to the
American heart of representation with
taxation" He argued that the geo
graphical line of demarcation OF San
Luis Obispo, Kern and San Bernardno
counties was one good point in favor OF
the division of the diocese. As for vest
ed interests, when New York was divid-
ed New York city and Albany disagreed
as to the division OF funds, and the
matter remained unsett.ed for 10 years.
SO any such question need not kill the
prospect here. Regarding the remu-
neration OF the bishop" said he, II
don't see why the biehop should not
come with the same degree OF faith 90 q
rector into his parish. Of course the
convention will insist on an adequate
proyieion being made, sufficient to re-
lieve him of care regarding the tempo
ralities of life. But the question of the
support of the bishop muat go hand in
hand with the support of the missions"
Rev. j. Gray wanted to hear from the
laymen, as they would in aRy case have
30 furniah the funds.
Rev. B. w. r. Tayler objected until
the II ratter had been brought before the
yestries, 80 that they could work har-
moniously.
Geo. H. Peck spoke as layman of
the bishop accepting a small salary to
bsgin with. He eulogized Los Angeles
county as prolific in resources and
termed it "Parsiso" which, he ap-
peared to think, the bishop ought to
appreciate by discounting his aalsry.
DR.. Trew. making answer to remarks
regarding the mission expenses. said
there had been paid in $5563 38, and
last convention year there had been ex-
pended $6409.69 showing an apparent
deficit OF s546.69. Bat the general fund
in New York had made the annual
grant OF $500, about half OF which was
expended in the south. That sum will
be available after division of the diocese
So the aouth drew from the north in all
less than 500.
W. Pridham was very plain spoken
and be did not mincs words. mo busi-
ness man." said he, would undertake a
debt he did not know how to meet. l
esteem it just as di5honorable. just as
disrsputable. not to say dishonest, to
ask for division OF the diocese without
funds to meet the undertaking az for me
to give a fallacious note. Figures that
have been quoted OF payments made
would, If the true inwardnesa were
known, be found to have been shoul-
dsred by the few and not by the masses
OF the people. AS to small salary for
the bishop, we as Episcopalians want
the best man we can get; we don't want
a cheap man."
Mr.. Pridham concluded q rather warm
address by repudiating the theory he
had heard clergyman advance, that
the church had right to go into debt. +"
Rev. Burrows of Santa Ana replied
somewhat hotly to some oil Mr.. Prid-
hams remarks, upon which the latter
withdrew certain Objectionable phrases
without, however, expressing any mod
ifioation OF his opinions.
Rev. j. B. Brown then had tilt at
Mr.. Pridham. Of course the few
ought to shoulder the church's debts.
Why not? They were amply trustees
returning to God what he had given to
them. The poor gave as they could.
but the responsibility of the church's
debts, in his opinion, must necessarily
lie with the few wealthy people. Warm
ing to his subject the reverend gentle
man rambled along, speaking OF the
general prosperity OF Los Angeles county
until he evidently touched tender
spot, for he was interrupted by Rev. A.
s. Clark, who having obtained permis-
sion to speak, inquired innocently:
SIS orange land selling for as much
now as two years ago?"
Voice-'No, but beet land is."
Rev. A. S. Clerk-"With the tariff on
or off?n
Rev. Burrows subsided under the gen.
eral laugh that went round.
Judge A. M. Stephens brought the
discussion back into reasonable groove,
and said that it appeared as if the dis
cussion was proceeding without any
u6uulto puTpOnos Iuo QutktlOI Oh
finance being in the hands of a COM
mittee placed it outside the pa,e of dis
cussion, but one question did appear to
him to be a valid one, viz: how
much ought to be raised? Under
standing that the sum of $4,000 had been
fixed upon he desired. putting it in tho
Bhaps of motion. that it bs the sense
of the convocation that the sxigenciea OF
the case require this amount. II my
SELF" said Judge Stephens. think
$4,000 proper sum, but as the COM
mittee have decided upon $4,000, move
this body make it the sense of the con-
vocation"
Rev. A. S. Clark moved the president
that it was the understanding when the
discussion WAS made the order OF the
day that NO action should be taken.
Some dispute ensued as TO the word
ing OF the resolution. Mr.. Clark's under
standing being contrary to the entered
minutes.
Finally Judge Stephens motion, sec-
onded by DR.. Trew, prevailed, and being
carried the business of the convocation
came to an end.
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