New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-06-15

would be strange II there were not some honorable
men who received the circulars. because as many az
1000 circulars are sent out IN sng,e day.
! Q.-Dld you ever hear Of police detectives gong
20 wrters and te;ng he bnc1H to tbe men were
"squca.ers"? A.-No. Ny business was only that
OF "steerer," and had nothing to DO win 'ne
Q.-wers you not under protection? I've We
worked under police protection. The police al Know
me- becaus. my picture IL in the Rogues' Gallery,
but the police did not stop me when passed theln
with victim Sometimes they would nod to me
ana .et me pass on
GENTLE WARNING FROM \ SERGEANT.
Odd Detective ergeant Rodgers say anything
to You once at the Grand Central station? Ale
tod me- that must keep away from there
Q-Have McNay ard Hadlick a representative
in the Posoffce to that there Is no nterference
not know. bu; the mail goes through al rish'i p,s
Q.-fIas Had:ck brother employed in the Post
Was Hadlick's brother appointed through
Michae Ryan leader in Tammia1y s haiia man as
leader in Tammany Hall do not want 10 shielI
BAY nf bnt 1 do T not know such man as
Tammany leader
MICHAEL RYAN "a TANiMANY LEADER"
The witness-I have heard Of Michael Ryan but
decline to say If he IS interested In the green
goo1s' business. have been in prison for fifteen
months until recently. and do not know surely II
Hadcks brother Is in the Postofiice iladlick ana
Ryan are good friends . . ,o
Q.-Is there person in the employ Of the n,
telegraph company who looks atter tne sse9
A-Each writer" employs his own telegraph opera
tor and paws him 50 much for each 'coneon' case
O. is there not some one in the Office in the
Western Union Building who looks atter tne.r III
There number Of smaller hackers ana writer's
az When dii YOU first know McNaly? A
Eighteen years ago He was supported by woman
Q When did he 90 into the "green-goods bust
q -were you employed by him 2; one time A., ~
| in Poughleepsie February II. 1892
WEALTH ACCUMULATED BY MNALLY.
Q-Do you know how much property McNally has
| now? Ale has between $4,000 and 100000 in
| vested md he has to keep about $1,000 on hand IN
! cash all the time.
Q-Where are the places which he has kept? A
| In sixth-ave and In Elizabeh-st. in this city, and
in Hoboken and jersey city. % 4,
| q Where is TIadcks place. Alt No. - A.
oyIias Hall!ck an arrangement with The police ,I
cinct in which he operates? Al never see any
men in the business IN nat greeaGt eHf ,s prncncf
| myself don't think any other men IN ne husi-
| guys" I saved one man VINO waa gong to be shot
ana have hts bankroll stolen FOR that
IT WAS 4 CObD-BLOODED MURDER
| Q what 20 you mean BY that? A.-Why. they
were going 70 steal guy AMI ~ to the man wao
| had thu bankroll and when the MONEY was shown
put revolver In his face and shoot II he dld not
| give I'D the money That done in Brooklyn In
| The Palmer case. That Was a cO.l-D)OdeL indrurr,
but the men were allowed 10 get on Inat was
! what done 10 me In Poughke"p psi" Wnen "aS
| shot II il strange that the police would Get Had
lick stay In the precinct when .hey Kno" th1I he
green ooIs' man hve weeks ago that must STAY
| out Of tae precirc, or would be- sent away They
q How WI many pisccs has McNally got now? a.
He mas got place al T"entr'h-St. ana ''ie'''''"
Q Who Is Doph siunders2 Ale g a writer"
q Is the Second Precinct good precinct for
green goods" men 70 operate In a ~ Is sood
ar, not protected That j. lladlclSs territory ms
| places were doing business there a month ago Dui
have heard nat ny are ,r al Sl9s5i at present
UNDER STRICT POLICE PROTECTION.
@ when YOU worked for McNllly dii you I'M
ders.and that you under police protection?
\ We were under police protection understood
| that The police would not modest Ele 80 long as /
attended 10 the green goods business and ala not
9. DO You know Detective McManus at the Grand
Central station Ayes. | hay" met nm -FOUR or
| five times week when Was leaving trains VII"
| business A The largest amount was Sr'
q Was ihat per cent Of the none ,ass@ rom
nv H." h n,G , ,usiurss " ben / was seeding them
Gn ''' the trains wouli tel thsm stories abou,
,yori3 AK thr,a for So or S3o as they we're COINS
| away I got all | could from 'h.m
q tIay9 You ,4&~q more. 'nar one victim 20 o,. the
| turning joint Ia 4 Gay; !" Yes sometimes three
! or four In IA day.
CIRCULAR SENT FROM A SYNAGOGUE.
| q How much had NcNally made IN day? A.
As much as sScr lie had the cream Of The busi-
uess in this ci.y for years A. one tirle he had
dozen .wrl,,rs" employed in s,uiing out circulars
from az Eas, Side synagogue under ne direction
| writers q per cent At the sam" time h. had
other writers" who sent oui their own ''r'u''r"
and got ~ per cent
PROTECTION MADE TT SAFE
Appo said that N.NaUy guaranteed that h
would not be- molrst-l by the police while plying
| hts business as a 'steerer." lis percentage of
the pron,s % the swniliug was 10 per cent . per
cent being held back. however 10 60 into the pro-
lection fund. lie had "sterred' many guys TO
| MoN.Uly's places In NE FIRST Preclnci. sometimes
| guys" would follow hve ~ SIX feet behind tAe
i"icri"rn stationed a. inc i'l' IN, ann - nv"
| ~ ~. Irni.,ton which McNally secured lie had
| no protection as a pickpocket Only as a green
| goois s,rerer. He s!!I that tn ferry boat men
| guys whenever they suspected anything WrOrS
Apo 'oid aoou, new trick which had Oeen
used lately k.oNn As the cab trick. The victim
HIM ana another opposite. A bGIfilo robe w9uld D.
drawn over their knees. The money would be lis
| st;chel and deposited under the robe. Inc turner
hal FINGER that IS. dummy Satche. "nd is
he robe which he substituted for ne one con-
| tanning the money. ordinarily II WIS Only i'e'''-
sIry nave the second satchei contain a orich OF
some paI"r cut in the shlie OF nl. pu' Mhen r a
'harl sii~" was fOuni II was sometimes necessary
10 put few blll' on the outside Of the packaase.
| Most Of the business was done IN the First
Precinct so
q Can YOU pick out guy" pretty we'll?
Ayes
O. Is the business carried in New-York to-
| day? A. Yes
Q-tIave you carried IT IN other city ex-
| cept New-York? Ayes
POSSIBLE IN THIS CITY ALONE.
Odd You g; protection anywhere else than in
| New York? A-No. There * no such thing as
police protection for green goods men outside Of
New York.
senator Rr,dley-Not in Brooklyn? A-No. In
| no other city. Everywhere else the green goods
men work I'm fear OF the police. Here the steerer