St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-03-10

time. White handed her black
silk handkerchief the night they were
arrested; don't know that he did not
want 10 be arrested with that on his
person; brother is about six feet; taller
than Butler. Miss Densrow is neigh
boris girl; came about O'clock Hal
lowe'en eve; she and Lillian and others
were going out to hang some signs
made by Densrow girls and their
brother. but did not go because it was
too late. Fisher and Reed were on the
bed; Reed was shot in the shins. Gar
rity was the man who escaped from the
officers the night of the arrest.
Redirect-Elms was my fathers name;
my mother is now Mrs. White; am
sometimes called Ella White; was never
any trouble; never saw Dugan until l
saw him in jail at Minneapolis.
Miss DenSrOw-Am fourteen years
old; reside block and half from
Whites house; was never in court be-
fore; known Miss Elms since Septem.
ber;- saw defendant two weeks before
arrest; was at Nellie'S house at the time
of the murder: went there about s
o'rlOrk; was there till 10; saw Nellie
bite. saw defendant. saw Dick Reed;
defendant was lying on Dick Reeds
bed sic. ping; stayed in the house till 10
O'Clock, saw him as soon as | went up
stairs, about S:15. and all of the fine
TIL 10 O'Clock; was never arrested or
convicted or had any trouble.
Cross-EXamined-We to the room to
take Dick Reed some candy. We went
out that night, but Nellie did not go, be
cause it was too late; was 10 o'clock
when we went out. Ny sister and
brother went with me; was not out on
the street at 7:30: did not see Officer
Brennan on the street at that time; was
not OH the street with my sister; was
not by Mrs. Singers house about half
past7; was at Nellie's house In the
afternoon that day, and agaIu in tina
evening; did not keep track OF the
number Of times 1 was there other days:
remember that day because it was
Halloween; went away at just 10 p. H.;
looked at the clock, and know it was
just 10; defendant had his clothes on:
was Oh outside of bed; don't know
whether Reed had clothes OH, as he was
in bed. Clark came up several times;
did not say anything; just looked in
and went off without saying a word;
Dick had been abed several days; was in
room Dick occupied; talked about hang
ing signs and things like that while we
were i'll the room; were laughing and
talking all the evening; this defendant
lat
the table; light shining in his face face
toward US; we were on chairs at the
table; face turned toward us all the
time; never wakened up; lamp shining
on his eyes; described clothes, coat,
vest, pants, shoes, shoes tied, collar;
don't know about necktie; didn't notice
necktie, because L didn't know | was to
testify about that. Clark brought moth
ing into the room; did not say anything;
brought no beer. Redirect-Detendan
was asleep when lamp was lighted.
AFTERNOON.
: Charles T. Schilling testified: Reside
442 Olive street. aud am gunSmith;
examined cartridge found OIL the floor
where Herda was killed; cartridge is
too small for revolver; cartridge is A;
revolver is 10, at least it is marked army
size, and army size is 45; examined cart
ridges eXDefliueuteu with III the morn.
ing by Capt. Lowell; cartridges were
A; revolver IS; revolver not likely to
certainly explode A cartridge; hammer
strikes on the rim; can't say anything
about cartridge found on the floor as-to
whether this revolver struck that. That
Is struck further lii than the other four.
Can't say that was not the revolver
which snapped the uneXplUded cart
ridge. That cartridge does not fit the
revolver-eXplained minutely to the
jury; the cartridge did not fit.
To Question by the Court-Showed
jury wherein the blow OH the cartridges
struck i'll court differed fromtnat on the
cartridge picked up on the floor The
difference Is about the thlrty-Second of
an inch-tle mark is sixteenth of an
inch. The cartridge would be liable to
fail oht ii the shut-up was not closed,
but not otherwise.
William H. Observation-Disclosures a
shooting gallery; examined cartridge
found on floor of saloon; examined
cartridges experimental upon III court
by Capt. Lowell; never saw revolver
like this. Asked if it was his opin ion
that the revolver which snapped the
four cartridges was the same revolver