New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1894-07-15
MUSICAL COM VI ENT.
MP VAN DER STRICKEN AND CINCINNATI
AN ORCHESTRA IN DETROIT
THE SEIDL CONCERTS.

Tho promoters OF the scheme 20 give permanent
orchestra concerts 70 Cincinnati are making d
strong effort secure Mr.. Van der Siuche" d. WI
ductor Mr.. Van der Stucken Is now IN Europe
having sailed from NewYork the day after the 'as'
concert OF the recent Sangerfest At that time ne
y,,la,ions with Cincinnati were In progress. but IL
seemed go lutle likely 70 Mr. Van der Stuckeh mat
hts conditions would be accepted that ne gave MN
seI but a modlcum Of concern In the premises Inc
CONSEQUENCE has been that the negotiations are no"
! co,luc,,nz with embarrassing ditcuiiies Inc
| cf,clno,n plans have been modified mat II -
,l, ,,,,h a difference that they be said to con-
,o,o,f,te a permanent orchestra. For such con-
summation the fund that has been SUBSCRIBER AZ
the solicitation OF the Ladies Musical ''uo - M
sufficient This fund consists Of a guarantee OF oe-
tween $500 AMI $1,000 year for three years
When n Is remembered that Mr. Thomass guarah-
tee of 10000 a year for three years was used up IN
Two maintenance OF his Chicago orchestra. II De-
Comes obvious that the Cincinnati scheme must De
one OF much more modest dimensions the pan
looks now simply to the gradual recruiting OF the
capabe instrumental forces Of the city ana 'he IS
enlistment OF series OF symphonic concerts care
fnlly nrcpared for which the performers are to re-
c.lvc honorlria according 10 the unions scale
such plan Will result in giving CINCINNATI concerts
- fair quality but viii not ,ift her above the
plane occupied by Detroit -. LOUIS san ram
cisco Buffalo and or Two Other cities Muc"
Is expected from the cooperation OF a capaDe
loader and II IS FOR this reason that strenuous ei
forts are making 10 secure the services OF Mt van
der Stucken. The success OF the scheme however
depends somewhat upon the cooperation VI "'e
Nav Festival Association, which Is expected u a'H
tho Orchestra Association by engaging the con-
duc,or ne us cholrmas,cr. Those who remember 'he
,,,or noods in Cincinnati because OF the gentle
,r,ures nassed upon the choir Of the last testiVa
hy Tho Tribunes correspondent VIII De a'"uSeu u
learn that Immediately after the ies'Na. N'.
Thomas declared to the directors that he "ou'u "o'
conduc, another festival unless better chorus was
mt n, his disposal. Thus did the Incident OF 1897
,orred ~ IN one OF The Tribunes dispatches IN
illustration OF the manner In when MI. iho'has
and the directors stultify themselves IN ,he eseS u
The singers and the public. repeat ns'it one ot
tho difficulties with which the cincinnati ies"N"'
labor is that Of commanding the services OF uo'-
ouvh,v Gamble chormaster who Is Wiling 10 u'op
100 -, s,r,, heh,nd Mr. Thomas so soon as the fes-
,,,,,, comes round As was to have been expected
NJ a man OF Mr. Van der Stuckens capacity, '"ai
octer and reputation he at once protes'eu ''"' nv
could not think of doing the drudgery Vi wv ''"
smp,y TO let Mr. Thomas come IN at the emu anu
roam all the glory; and here 1t is. we fancy' 'na'
the negotiations are likely 10 split Mt "a" "e'
smcken has been met on his propositions as ~ Sa'
,,y lena,h OF contract (ve years Instead OF three
with a forfeiture clause In his faVor' ou' "e 10"
also demanded the privilege OF conuuctns "' ''
one Of the festival concerts. Fnanciai'y tue au'""
tages OF the Cincinnati position are not 50 sIea' Us
m
getlc jealous and ambitious. ana destous vi -
,,, control Of musical organization with whlch ne
CON corrv ont some OF the big projects whch i''
his mind It seems II the question "he."ei "
not he shall go to Cincinnati rests IN .he ms' ~
stance largely on the Willingness OF MT. lhonias
TO invite dangerous rivalry'
7, Mr. Van der stucken should decide 10 go 10
Cincinnati II would cause great disappoin'men' "
IN. NAnpersesangverein Arion. whose present ar
,,stlc standing is argey due to his compe'en' am
ensreetc leadership. Mr.. Van der Stuekeh Is AZ
exacting taskmaster and his fondness ior prouue
inc now works has cost the society pretty Pe""'
In the course OF the last zen year, fSe Aren in
ana obvious has been the progress OF w ~ avsn
. o. d., tbat The money has been cneertuiy s'sn,
and II Is doubtful II the Ar!on wou'l .es htr, One
90 without making great f'v, roh,h'v he 10 bring
result OF c az, CONDUCTOR to New York The con,
Sno.nss ~ he Aron and Lleierkran1 socletes nay
always been qt the heau ., .nbHt, Thomas and
Dr Damrosch come TO rniiiu a. one 80 IN eor the
who are talked about as .lkey 70 cT gnns whose
possible Navs yyoces are exceedingly popular. ana
49,, Continuance made by the active met VI
W. Arion on the German trip Two years c asv IN
poldaMus Ia conductor 81 ''"e'"e ~ "
smaI town In Switzerland
Anronos OF the Cincinnati orchestral movement, ~
90 in,erestlng 10 note the progress MAKING IN tne
same line IN Desao' the N phil f CUB an
sanzatlon devoted 70 chamber mus % i VnncE
6y an association Of citizens Mt Ub
wno nnmper OF years and has been largely nstru-
ri, in establishing It's present excellent reputa.
ton has Withdrawn from tnss ~ ,h orchsstra
ga In ali probability or-2-=- another quartet