The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-08-31
REBUTTAL TESTIMONY
ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE TAKEN BY
THE STRIKE COMMISSION.
Mr.. Howard ubmits Questions for the
Railway Managers and Mayor Hop
kins Explains Several Incidents.

IONS, reDuttal testimony Was nedTu tO-udy
by the strike commission. The railroads
and labor unions introduced several wit
nesses. the first of whom was S. C. Wade,
an employee of the legal department of the
Rock Island, his opinion being, he said,
that much of the ~blockading of railroad
tracks was the work of experienced railroad
men.
w. r. Mooley, a Northern Pacific switch
man of Blue Island, said that Debs and
Howard had not advised the men to strike;
that they had told the men to use their
own Judgment. He said ne was discharged
for alleged activity in the strike. The wit
ness tod of the fight at Blue Island on
June 80, when four hundred deputy mar
shals stood by and saw their chief. Logan,
beaten by the crowd, and related various
Incidents of car-burning and blockading. He
had been informed, he said. that a deputy
marshal named Davidson had burned cars,
and that Davidson did not deny the story.
W. +. Guion, a reporter, was next called.
He went over the incidents of the strike at
Blue Island, Burnside, Fordham and Pull
man. He saw the cars burning at Burn
side. He found only three railroad men IN
away. The railroad men were trying TO dis
perse the crowd. One of these men, said
the instructions from the A. r. u. head
quarters were to drive away all persons
who might be inclined TO damage property,
and. if they would not go, to cause their
arrest. Debs and Howard afterwards asked
witness if he could help the order and
cause the arrest of the men engaged in vio-
lence, but he told them ne was not a de-
Vice President Howard of the A. r. T.,
was again called to the stand. Mr.. toward
declared that he had always counseled mod
GRAFTON and denounced law~lessness. His
only remarks of 'incendiary" nature, he
said, was the advice he had given the men
to use coupling pins on A. Il. a. repre-
sentatives or any other similar class of
people who might endeavor to stir up
nanh - rhn niO M IN hnafs - ffn
ences in religion. He denounced the A. z.
A, and explained how emissaries of the
corporations had frequently endeavored to
fcment dissensions in labor organizations on
account of religion.
Mr.. Howard then suggested that the fol-
lowing questions should be put to the gen.
eral managers, one of whom he supposed
would take the stand this afternoon:
did the strikers at any time interfere
cars were not attached to the same train?
Gould you not at all times have trans
ported the mails without interrupti9n If
you had not insisted upon attaching Pull
man cars to the same train?
Was your contract with the government
to transport mails any less binding upon
you than your contract with the Pullman
company, or was one contract in any sense
made dependent upon the other?
Did your company have a contract with
the government TO transport the mails?
Was your contract dependent upon your
ability to transport Pullman cars?
did your contract with the Pullman
company provide that you should not carry
the mails unless you took Pullman cars On
Commissioner Herman did not know that
the commission would have opportunity to
go on record. Howard also desired inves-
tigation of Pullman's reported statement
that the general managers had Threatened
to boycott him if he consented to arbitrate
with the American Railway Union. He
further Td,t6 s said the the American Am estp, RaIlway NNa nI9n
Hopkins, who was expected to take the
stand this afternoon. that the American
Railway Union had been more active than
u M SeaS1n Ao gninse4 testiied at some length
regarding the attitude of the police during
the strike. He declared that they had done
knowledged that he was in sympathy with
the striking employees Of the Pullman COM
Company. and knew what the men had to
endure. Upon the matter OF the message
from T.. V. Debs to the General Managers
Association the Mayor said: July Is Mr..
Debs, Mr.. Howard and Mr.. KeIiher. of the
A. r. T., called and presented a communi-
to take it over to them, They asked that
all the men be taken back, not as members
of the A. r. L., but as individuals, ex-
in the strike. When L got there the board
| had adjourned, and / handed it to Mr.. st.
John. Mr.. st. John informed me that they
did not desire to receive any communica-
tons from that source, but would receive
it in view of the fact that the Mayor of
Chicago brought it there; want want to say
| quoted him as saying that if he was the
Mayor he would not allow himself TO be
want to say most emphatically that Mr..
Egan never said that TO me-, and L do not
think L would have allowed him to say il"
understand that it has been stated
in the press that you applied to Mr.. Debs
for permission to move certain things
during the strike"
That is not true. I'll give you my state
ment in regard to il. We have a contract
between the city of Chicago and a man
named Brennock for the removal of dead
animals. His place Of rendering them is in
Indiana some place. He called at my office
one day and stated that there was a train
of dead animals down in the yard, and they
were getting offensive and he could not
get them out 1 sent my secretary over to
the headquarters OF the a. r. l., and they
sent a crew down to pull them out, but
when they went down to report to the Off
Gals of the railroad they put them on a
train loaded with meat, and they pulled
that out a distance and found they were
| deceived, and abandoned the train
After the Mayor had explained the dead
horse episode the commission adjourned.
Determined to Operate Their Mines.
CLEVELAND, o., Aug. 30.-The coal
operators of the Massillon district were in
session at the Weddell House to-day for
the purpose of choosing three mines TO
be opened and operated with nonunion
men from other States in case the old
men decline to go to work. The Massillon
miners, nearly four thousand in all, have
been out since Feb. IL, declining to accept
the Columbus agreement and holding out
for 20 cents. while the operators will not
pay more than 60 cents. One Massillon dis
trict company with a mine at Camp Creek
has acceeded to the 70-cent rate and is
working a full force of men. The product.
however. is chiefly camel coal. The del
egates to the meeting to-day, however,
claim that this fact cuts no figure with
the remaining mines, and that they now
propose 10 break the strike and resume
operations at once. a committee was APP
pointed at to-day's meeting to select three
mines to be started. If q sufficient number
of men cannot be obtained from the ranks
OF the old men the committee viii look
elsewhere for nonunion workmen.
Insist on "a 10 Per Cent. Cut.
PITTSBURG, Aug. 30.-The Window-glass
Manufacturers Association, which met in
Cleveland yesterday. rejected the work
mems proposition. concedlnE a reduction Of
about 20 per cent. The manufacturers IL
siSt on a forty-per-cent. cut. y conference
between the manufacturers and workers
will be held here on Monday.
Cotton Mills to Resume.
EXETER, N. H., Aug. 30.-The cotton
mills of the Exeter Manufacturing Com
pany, which have been idle since March,
will resume operations in part on Thurs
day, and will start with a full force
Sept. 10.