The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1894-06-12
ABOUT THE SUGAR TRUST
II. n. RBsD, OF BOSTON, BEF0RB
THE SENATE COMMITTEE.
His Refinery is - competitor OF The rrust-
Knew Nothing OF the Alleged
Briberies, He Said.

WASHINGTON. June 1.-THE Sugar
trust investigating Committee has decid-
ed to report Broker Chapman's refusal 10
answer It's questions to the Senate, and
WIZ probably not ask him to appear.
Inc proceedings will be similar to those
III tne cases of Correspondents Edwards
ana Shrlver The committee will report
tne iacts accompanying the report. and a
iuli transcript OF Mr.. Chapman's testi-
mony' with a resolution directing the Vice.
President to certify the facts 10 the Dis
trict Attorney who is expected to proceed
against Mr.. Chapman by taking the mat
ter before the grand jury.
II. X. HErp's rEsrrMoSY.
Henry r. Reed, of Boston. was the
principal witness before the comuittee
to-day. He said he was an owner i'm ths
Sugar Refining Company, OF Boston. which
had no connection with the Sugar Trust
but was a competitor. lie said he had
been In Washington the greater part OF
the time since February in the interest
Of this refinery. He said he had frequent
ly talked with Senators Mcpherson. Voor-
hees, Jones, Br1ce. Aldrich. and Platt.
He said he had seen Senator Jones more
frequently than any member Of the Sem
ate, and given the Senator at mis- request
a great deal OF information about the
sugar refining business, much of II re.at-
Ing entirely to the business OF his own
house, and of a confidential nature.
This IN formation was given. he said
TO enable Sci ator Jones tn1 the Finance
Committee TO form fair estimate as 20
what would be equitable treatment for
the rehners in dealing with the sugar
schedule-"as to what would mean ruin
and the reverse OF it." He said the House
bill, II IL should have become law
would have meant ruin 10 his business
lie had, however, Uscd no other argu-
ment on Senator Jones or any one else
lie had said nothing about any sup
posed Indebtedness Of the Democratic par
~ 10 sugar retiners. lie confessed that
he had been contributor 70 the Demo-
cratic party in a modest way for n
great many years, and expected to con-
tinue his contributions. but not TO ask
favors on that account
HAD MKT HAyrMgYKR FlrQUrNrLY.
Mr.. Reed said he had met Mr.. Have
meyer frequently while they were both IN
Washington, and had met him In Mr..
Terrells room at the Arlington. but he
did not remember that he had been there
on the night OF tho 7th OF March, when
Mr.. Castor testified TO overhearing a con-
versation between sugar men and sena-
tors. He had, however. met Senator Brice
at Mr.. Terrelis rooms, and he thought
he had also met senator Smith there but
meyer was explaining the sugar question
10 him. However, the proposed sugar
schedule was the chief subject OF conver-
satlon lie was sure that nothing was
said on that occasion about Democratic
campaign contributions. Mr.. Reed said he
knew nothing Of sugar stock speculattons
by senators.
He also denied having been I'm the Capt.
tai with Mr.. Havemeyer and others ar
ranging a sugar schedule on the Sunday
before the tariff bill was reported lie
had, he said, been "A frequent visitor at
Senator Brice's house, but had never met
other senators except on one occasion
early In the spring, when he met Senator
Hill going out al the door and found SEN
ator Caffery In the Library. When asked
by Senator Davis whether the present
sugar schedule was I'm accordance Win
his Views Mr.. Reed said Il was, except
that he had advocated a larger differen-
tial duty on sugar above IS Dutch stand
ard. He thought IT was also I'm accord
ance with the desires OF Mr.. Havemeyr
and other refiners 50 far as Il adhered 10
the ad yalorem system.
QUESTIONED BY Mr.. ALLry.
Mr.. Reed was then examined by Mr.
Allen in regard TO the details Of tho
trust. Mr.. Reed declined to say how
mdch or the stock trust his firm owned,
put ne said he understood that about
sOWpcW OF II was held In New England.
Senator Allen asked Mr.. Reed a great
many questions designed 10 develop the
iact that the sugar refncrs were acting
IN concert 10 secure tariff legislation, but
ne persisted In saying that he had met
some Of the other refiners; there had
been no especial conference. and that he
had persued his own course Mr.. Reed
also said, In reply to questions from
Senators Gray and Lindsay. that argu-
ments for a sugar duty made during the
present Congress had not been made dr.
ferent from those made I'm 1890 when
the Mckinley bin was pending.
Senator Allen asked the witness n num-
Der OF questions as TO the division OF
territory between the different refiners,
and desired 10 know how II happened that
Mr. Spreckles supplied all the western
territory, but Mr.. Reed professed TO
know Of no understanding OF this sort
and said that il Mr.. Spreclles had a
monopoly I'm the West, II was because
the Rocky Mountains were barrier TO
eastern rehners.