The evening herald. [volume] (Shenandoah, Pa.) 1891-1966, 1894-06-09

miunlght "eetinB IN DIS MUM ~ the
Arlington Hotel--senAtor BrIoe's inter-
view with Mr.. Havemeyer.
WASHINGTON, June 9.-Mr. Terrell, Of
the sugar trust, was before the senate In
Vestigating committee yesterday. Mr..
Terrell said he had no doubt from Mr..
Gaston's testimony that he was in his
room on the night Of March T. and he
thought II probable that Messrs. Have
meyer and Reed were In the room, as the
three were in the habit Of meeting in one
another's rooms every evening. No SEN
ators were, however, in the habit of meet
ing with them. He and Senator Brice
were, he said, old time and intimate
friends, and the senators generally dropped
in upon him at the hotel about once a
week, but he was not in the room on
March 7.
Mr.. Terrell said he could remember only
| one occasion when Senator Brice had come
Into his room when Mr. Havemeyer was
| there. II remember it,n be said, dis
tinctly, because they had some talk on
| sugar"
The Chairman - Was anything said
about engaging Mr.. Brice's interest as a
senator2
Mr. Terrell-No, recall now that there
was one remark that Mr. Havemeyer
made that rather started Mr.. Brice's tenn
J per. He is a red headed man and very
| quick sometimes. Mr.. Havemeyer talked
as If he felt that il the sugar refining in
terests of this country had been scattering
| into separate concerns there would be no
J trouble about its getting what he called
fair treatment or reasonable protection
| with other great interests of this country
| but as he put it, there was such a great
clamor against the sugar trust that no.
body dared stand up and fight what was
really right in its behalf.
Senator Brice got little hot about that,
and said to Mr.. Havemeyer; II do not
! want to hear anything of that sort There
Is no subject that do not dare face and
discuss or defend II l think it is right, and
the fact that so per cent. of it is controlled
| by a single company would make no diff
| ference to me-"
Mr.. Terrell said that while he had
talked with Senator Brice many times
about the sugar question, he had never
said a word to him on the subject that he
would not have been willing for any one
to hear, and that he had never been asked
by the sugar trust to use his influence
with Brice to secure legislation in its in
terest.
When Mr.. Edwards account Of the sup
posed meeting between himself, Senators
Briee and Smith, Mr.. Havemeyer and Mr.
Reed, of Boston, was read to Mr.. Terrell,
he said that no such thing had ever oc-
Cured at any place, but he remembered
one occasion when these gentlemen met in
his room, and that was the evening on
which Mr., Havemeyer had been discuss
ing the sugar question with Mr.. Smith
He, Brice, Havemeyer and Reed were in
J the room when a boy came to the room
( saying that Senator Smith was down
stairs and wanted to see Senator Brice
Senator Brice told the boy to tell him tc
come up. Senator Smith came up, and
said he had been over TO Senator Brice's
house. and not finding him home had
come over to the hotel.
Il Senator Davis oross-questioned the wit
ness closely with regard to the converss
tion at the Arlington after Senator Smith
, went in, but he maintained that he could
not recall the tenor, Of it. He was SURE
that Mr.. HaVemeyer had concluded his
talk with Senator Brice on sugar before
Senator Smith appeared. .. a-ha #.
Mr. Terrell denied the truth of the story
OF the meeting Of the refiners and planter
, in q committee room at the Capitol djoin
ing a room in which the finance COMMITTEES
! meeting on the Sunday preceding the re
porting of the tariff bill. He said he hat
never been at the Capitol on Sunday. anC
had never on any day participated in sucl
meeting any day of the week.
Mr. Terrell said he had represented Mr.
Havemeyer in Washington in the capacity
of an attorney after Mr.. Havemeyer left
Washington on the 10th of March but ht
had never before been attorney or Counse
for any Of the members of the trust,