The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1894-01-09

what fund and by what authority. 81 move
TO refer the resolution to the committee on
foreign affairs, said Senator German. This
is merely an inquiry as TO how much money
was paid for certain purposes" said Sen
1T is very extraordinary" said Senator
German. Ito inquire to the expenditure
from fund that has been placed at the dis
posal of the Department Of State in the ma
ture itself of a secret fund"
Does the Senator understand" queried
Senator Hoar, that this money has been
paid from the secret fund.-"
81 take IL for granted that IL has"
That is merely what / want TO know by
the resolution"
II assume that it is" reiterated Senator
gress, without the slightest hesitation, paced
at the disposal Of the President a sufficient
amount OF money to conduct the business
of the Department of State. and he has ex
pended it without further inquiry
Mr.. Hoar-I only ask that what has been
expended by the President as a secret SER
vice shall be stated to the Senate.
What object do you have in asking this
informationg' inquired Senator Gray. of
Delaware.
land l want the Senate TO know, and /
want the country to know whether this gen.
tleman, whose mission was conferred on
him without the consent or advice OF the
Senate, was treated in all respects as a
public officer Of the United States"
know said Mr.. German, that there Is
not any expenditure made by the admins
tration that the, Democratic party is not
content to have the greatest publicity given
it. But the Senator from Massachusetts
knows very we'll that the compensation paid
this commissioner could not be paid from
any other fund than the secret fund. Like
some matters, such as a public treaty, IL
is matter which should be Kept within
HAS the Senator any reason to believe
that this was a secret expenditure! IN,
quired Mr.. Hoar, ''for that is all wanted
Mr.. Gorman-I have no more knowledge
of it than the Senator himself. ,,,,,,h
emphasis) that Ii was secret transaction!
MIR. Gorman-I have never known a case
where agents OF TINS sop ted Ti in anW other
way than from this fund. There Is no
other way to do it,
NEW INTEREST DEVELOPED.
A deeper interest wab suddenly developed
when Mr. Morgan, of Alabama, chairman
of the committee on foreign relations, arose
to participate in the discussion Il think,
said the Senator with great elaboration,
that in dealing with this question the Sen
ate should be consistent with itself. The
Senate has referred to the committee on
foreign relations an inquiry of a very
broad character. 1t includes the whole SUBJ
iect of irregularities, if any have occurred.
In the conduct of our diplomatic and other
affairs with Hawaii. The committee on
foreign relations must necessarily ascer-
tain in its pending investigation whetneT
the President of the United States had
authority to send Mr.. Blount to Hawaii,
and whether he had authority to- comms-
sion him to the extent that he did commits
sion him. and whether il was regular or
irregular That necessarily carries with II
the question of the regularity of his ap-
pointment. l therefore think that this reso-
luton is quite unnecessary"
After the explanation of the chairman OF
the committee on foreign relations, SAID
Mr.. Hoar, blandly and promptly, that
this is within the scope of the committee
consent that the resolution go there"
eff that is to be the construction in this
matter" said Senator Vest, OF Missouri,
81 shall vote against the reference. l do
not think this Senate has any power what
ever to ask the President of the United
States as to the amount OF the expendi-
ture from the secret-service fund or the
purpose for which he has expended Ii.
The Senator from Massachusetts is con-
stantly attacking the administration We
know the object of this resolution
Without further debate the question re-
ferring the resolution was put to a Viva
vote, and by practical unanimity IT was
referred to the committee on foreign re-
lations.
Senator Turpie, of Indiana, presented a
resolution having reference to Hawaii.
The resolution went over under the rules.
Senator Frye, OF Maine called up his reSo-
luton of last week and asked unanimous
consent that a vote be taken on this reso-
luton. Immediately there were several OBJ
jections from the Democratic side, and a
disposition was also manifest TO also re-
fer this resolution to the committee on for
eign relations. II was finally permitted to
go over till Wednesday.
After a short executive session the Sem
ate adjourned at 200 p m.