St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1894-08-21
federal troops arrived, as their presence

federal troops arrived. as their presence
infiamed the men,"
The witness then told of the trouble
with railroad brotherhoods.
1.-The brotherhoods have outlived
their usefulness" he said, land for that
reason left the firemen's association.
They were, fear, jealous of the A. r.
u. and helped to defeat US. There is
now movement on foot to form grand
and united railroad organization. With
i'll three days proposition will be sub
mitted to the other railroad orders
whereby all present officers of the A. r.
u. and other unions shall rsSign, with
no possibility OF election to Office. The
principal cause of strife thus being re-
moved. an organization will be effected,
If the brOtherhOodS will consent, which
shall include all railroad employees"
do you claim" asked MIR. Wright.
that the railroads were responsible for
the strike because they insisted upon
hauling Pullman carS?"
''No. sir. The A. X. u. was respOn-
sible for it, but under aggravating cir
cumstances. The general managers
are united to reduce wages. The en-
plOyeS are united to resist such reduc-
tions. III case of reduction that leads
to a strike we think the company Is
responsible" "
"What is your opinion as to methods
of aYerting strikes? asked Commits
sioner WOrthington.
MY own idea, and it is the idea of
the American Railway union, is
Unity All the Railroad Men
of the country. A power like that pru-
IDENTIFY managed would avert strikes.
The railroad managers would recognize
the wisdom of treating it fairly and
meeting it in conciliatorv spirit"
do you believe strike is justifiable
that interferes with public cOnven-
ience?'
II believe striking is justifable no
matter what the result, when it is 10
resist degradation and enSlaving condi-
tions."
do you believe in government own
ership of railroads." asked Mr.. Herman.
Yes. sir, believe the government
ownership OF railroads Is decidedly
better than railroad ownership of the
government"
There was the heartiest kind of
laughter and applause at the epigram,
and it was some time before quiet was
restored.
In conclusion, the witness said he be-
lieyed the a. r. U. was stronger nulper-
lcally aud every other way than it ever
had been.
Mr.. Debs was followed by P. II. Nor
rlSey. first vice grand master OF the
Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen.
The feeling between the two orders.
he said. was not friendly. The Railway
union had come into existence deridins
the older organizations. and it had
naturally made them feel bitter. TheS
brotherhood believed in the extension of
trade union principles, but aid not
r. U. proposed. LII the instructions
to its men regarding the strike,
the brotherhood took the ground
that it was not approring
the strike at Pullman or the boycott,
and therefore expected its men TO do
their regular duty, but not to go outside
of that for the purpose of doing Strik-
ers' work. 1t did not believe in sympa.
thetic strikes, but individually the wit
ness believed III government ownership
of railroads and voluntary arbitration.
The brother hood regarded the proposed
government license as an interference
with private employment.
E. Z. Clark, of Cedar Rapids. To-. waf
the next witness. He is grand chief oe
the Order of Railway Conductors. Hn
told the same story of hostility betWee-
the brotherhood and union. His organ
iZation had made an effort in Washingf
ton to secure a law for the licensing OF
railroad men, but the bill never got GU
of committee. r.
This closed the hearing of witnesses
for the day.
The commissioners have notified
George NJ. Pullman to appear and testi.
fy, and will also call for several MEM
bers of the General Managers associa-
ton. The date for Mr.. Pullman's
testimony has not been set, but it is
expected that he will appear Tuesday
or Wednesday.