The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-12-19
HEARING TESTIMONY.
The Second Day Of the
Investigation.
GREAT INTEREST Is SHOWN
And Much is Said to Cause the People
TO Think.
GROVER CLEVELAND GAVE A THOUSAND
But II Vas Turned Over 10 the State
Chairman.
mr.. ]. TAYLOR ELLYSON TALKS AGAIN
And Says This is The CleaneSt Campaign
for Years.
Mr.. ]. TAYLOR ELLYSON TALKS AGAIN
And Says This is The ClsaneSt Campaign
for Years.
LEE And MARTIN BOTH APPLAUDED.
Senator Stubs Explains How He Got HIS
a75-Decstur Axteil and Samuel spencer I
acknowledged TO Litchfieid's Y
Testimony and He Pockets
his written Statement.
Meet This Morning.


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The senatorial investigating COMMITTEES
met promptly yesterday morning large
crowd OF spectators were present through
ont the day. and frequently during the
testimony Of General Fitzhugh Lee and
MIR. Thomas S. Martin there was loud
applause.
The interest commenced with the first
witness, and continued undated TO the
end
Among the most interesting incidents
was that in connection with Mr.. q.
V. Ldtchneld. Of Abingdon, part
OF whose written statement was
objected TO by a number Of the commit
tee. and. taking the ground that unless
st was accepted as a whole he would not
permit the use Of any part of IT, placed
his manuscript in his pocket.
When General Lee took the stand in
tense interest was manifested. and ap-
plause followed his appearance. Mr..
Thomas S. Martins entrance was noted
an the same way. and the testimony Of
Cidlc &udA man i@te SUI "a otNh ~
with breathless stiffness by the throng,
which packed every available space in the
hearing Of his voice.
In the afternoon the doors Of investiga-
ton, which up to that time had been
close shut, except along prescribed lines,
even to the extent Of declining to accept
General Lees memorandum Of witnesses
and what they could prove. until ex-
nmined by the committee in private, were
thrown wide open, and when General
Lee was again placed on the stand, he
was required 10 give even the names Of
those who contributed funds to the cam
paIgn, which he reluctantly did, on ac-
count OF the breach Of confidence into
which IL forced him.
When he stated that Grover Cleveland
contributed fifty twenty-doilar bills. and
stated the circumstances under which it
was received, the crowd approved with
loud applause.
1t is a noteworthy fact, and for some
reasons unfortunate. that the committee
which had heretofore guarded those state
ments which were strictly party secrets.
broke down all barriers at this point I'm
the proceedings. and subjected General
Lee 10 an inquisitorial Investigation of a
line OF facts not so strictly demanded Of
any other witness before or after.
a good deal of evidence was elected
that will, no doubt. affect the future pos
sibilities OF certain candidates, and the
merits OF which the reader can enter into
only by reading the stenographic report
which follows.
AT the night session much difficulty was
experienced In finding the witnesses, and,
alter having sent the Sergeant-at-Arms
OUT AFTER gentlemen who were known to
be In the city without result. adjourned
until . O'Clock this morning.
Saplaln Ham Shepherd took the stand.
Mr.. Nicol: Captain Shepherd. dld Won
ever read this resolution?
capt Shepherd. 1 read IT in the news
papers. but | would like to hear It read.
WI you read IT 10 me. please?
me resolutions were then read to Capt.
Shepherd.
Mr.. Nicol; WIN you please state any
thing that you know in regard to the sub
ject matter of this investigation?
Capt. Shepherd: The only thing / know
Is what was told to me by Mr.. S. A.
Thompson. of Patrick. He said TO me
that he had received a letter from DR..
P~riddy-
Mr.. Tredway: Mr.. Chairman. Mr..
Thompson has been m as a wit
ness, and l would suggest tina MIR.
Thompson testify on this point.
Mr.. Cooke: | make amendment TO that
TO the effect that Mr.. Thompson testify.
and that then Capt. Shepherd be called
afterwards.
Mr.. Mushbach: / don't know what Capt.
Shepherd is going to say. do not object
because / don't know what he is going 10
say. If you gentlemen consider this ques-
ton hat this committee is merely IN
quisitorial. and we have no right TO object
30 any questions; IN other words. that any
member OF the committee has a right 70
ask any questions aud TO have IL an
swered. and let the House OF Delegates
and the Senate pass upon the relevancy
OF the question.
Mr.. Downing: IL occurs TO me that the
testimony as outlined by Capt. Shepherd
would be hearsay testimony. and wheth-
cr this Is an inQuisitoral committee or
not. when a man takes an oath TO state
fncts, l have never seen a court or inquisi-
torial committee that would permit him
20 state hearsay testimony. IL occur 10
me that the proper course TO pursue is 20
nave the gentleman who told Capt. Shep-
herd these things on the stand. and Capt.
Shepherd can inform any member OF the
committee h he wishes the committee
70 ask the gentleman. l do not think II is
proper for Capt. Shepherd TO tell the
committee what the gentleman said.
Mr.. Cooke: l renew my motion that
Mr.. Thompson be examined first. and
then tnefe would De no trouble about II.
MIR. Nicoi: IL seems 10 me, gentlemen.
that we can examine Captain Shepherd
on all matters that he knows. leaving
out this matter. and when Mr.. Thompson
testines, Captain Shepherd can be re-
called. NJ
The committee then agreed TO adopt the
course suggested by MIR. Nicol.
Mr.. Nicol; Do you know OF your Owl
knowledge whether any improper means
or methods were used In the election OF
any member 70 the House OF DELEGATES
or the Senate OF Virginia in favor OF any
candidate or candidates for the United
States Senate?
Captain Shepherd: I do not.
Mr.. Ntcol: DO you know OF your own
knowledge whether or not any improper
means or methods were used after the
meeting OF the General Assembly ana st
lne caucus held on December 7th IN
me interest Of any candidate or candi-
ostes for the United States Senate?
Captain Shepherd; 1 do moi.
NJ Nicol; Do you know anything /