New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-04-11

London, April 1o.-'There was thin attend
once in the Hous., of Commons to-day when dis
cussion was resumed on the motion for the second
reading of the Irish Home Rule bill. The first
sneaker was Herbert W. Paul, Liberal member
for South Edinburgh Mr. Pauls remarks did
not fill the benches, and 1t was not until Joseph
Chamberlain arose that the members hurried in
and the House assumed an aspect of interest and
attention.
Mr. Chamberlain said that the bill proposed to
establish brand-new constitution for Ireland.
The Prime Minister asked them when the con-
troversy would he settled if the measure should
hc rejected. The whole question really was,
Would the bill settle the controversy? Was not
Mr.. Gladstone in too great hurry, and was he
not too impatient to deal with the Irish difficulty?
A new era had opened for Ireland with the dis
establishment of the hish Church. Then the
agrarian question had been partly settled Time
ought 10 bc given 10 allow for th" beneficial
operation of those other measures. hut the Prime
Minister said that Ireland still discontented,
and that no progress toward cancellation had been
made If such the case, then the predictions OF
the Prime Minister regarding the measures he
had already promoted for Ireland had proven fall
lacious and threw discredt on similar predictions
in regard to the present measure giving separate
legislature to Ireland
Probably, added Mr. Chamberlain, the people
of England would accept the bill if they believed
that it would enable them to get rid of the Irish
question {" Hear. IIear.") but he feared il would
do nothing of the kind. Mr.. Gladstone had dis
regarded the rights of the minority and treated
the most influential and prosperous section OF
the Irish people with contempt. He proposed to
subject that portion Of the Irish people TO such
legislative conditions would wreck their indus
nd hn @
ruin. Not Ireland alone but England equally
had reason to dread the results of the measure.
The whole of the property class, whatever
their religion, were opposed 10 the bill. Had
the Prime Minister. he asked, ever known any
State TO succeed when the Government was op-
posed by ma aorty Of the classes owning prop
erty? Even the Nationalists, i'll accepting the
measure. did not admit that it was ina'ity
He challenged the Irish leaders to say whether
they accepted the principles of the bill. affirming
the veto of the Crown on advice OF the Britlsh
Ministry and preventing the Irish Parliament
from dealing with the external trade Were these
taken as final or We're the financial clauses rem
dering Ireland liable to increaseI taxation for
war and other purposes connected with Imperial
policy accepted as final? There was absolutely
nothing final about the bill. A. soon an Irish
Parliament should he formed they would require IL
TO he Matched up again (" Hear lledr") Did
ANYBODY consider the so-callei safeguards in the
bill worth anything il the Irish majority de-
termned to disregard them? True, the British
Parliament could enforce them by civil war; but
not otherwise conservative cheers
The only safeguard the Government had. con-
tinued Mr. Chamberlain, was the good feeling ana
,be generosity of the Irish leaders and people, and
il the Government had the courage OF ther con
victons they ought TO sweep away the so-called
,l,. (uf nhah (rl:i ID
stone still suspected the good intentions OF the
men 10 whom hc was manoeuvring to give the
Government of Ireland. These We're the men about
whom he formerly said that they preached the
GOSPEL of plunder, and marching through
raIine 10 the dismembermcnt OF the Empire. Inc
present Chancellor Of the EXchequcr had de-
nounced them as preaching the doctrines oi
treason and murder The present Chancellor oi
the Duchy of Lancaster had said that if the police
should be placed in the hands OF an elective podI
the landlords might whistle for their rents d"N
he glad if they escaped with whole SKIN anu
the nresent Secretary for Scotland had once de-
clared that he would rather remain a private ci'i
zen throughout his life than consent to cohhde
the lives and liberties of law-abiding population
to a Parliament composed of such men, l"'''
were the ntterances of four Ministers VINO 10"
led the way in proposing to establish SUCH
Parliament. Conservative cheers
He would NOT say that Ireland, II EhgIah"
should lre engaged in war; would tax" sloes ak
England but il possible that 'iie ~
of the Irish might be with England oppo"'"'
thereby exposing England 70 the risk oi " '''''u.
taneous civil and foreign war MI H'auS'o'
nrot.s.aa boundess faith i'm the Irish people, ou'
it was a faith of recent growth. lheS W. t
70 stake the honor and dignity and life oi 'hc
Nation ON the assurance that miracle "ouiu wv
wrought changing the hearts ol ueh anu '''
inc the springs of human action. iic "a"o
was too great, and the possible gain 700 s'naii "
the bill should pass, and they escapcn "i'",'
and disgrace, the Government "oui" sum ' '
find plausible reason for risklh@ 30 ihuo" WIN
little corresponding advantage" It heer'.l =,
Justin Mccarthy, leader of the an'ifarh'''
i,es ridiculed Mr.. Chambcrlains prophecies OF
disaster The Irish people, he said' haie' '"0
bill a. a nleIpc that their aspirations would ''
satisfied They would accept it as meSSale VI
la.tinr ncacc Predictions that they wonIo h'''-
use il to foment disc0rd and disloyalty coui" "
made honestly only by those mistaking tlle pr''-
ant mood of the Irish Nation lie couid h'l sly
that the Irish party were quite satisfied WIN t'c
financial clause, OF the Home Rule biii hc'ci"
less they accepted the bill generally de an no'"s
settlement of the question. Cheers 40 ''' q"
the Irish party could forcsce, 1t might Prov "
final settlement If the bill were cariieu NV
Prime Minister would win tine undyihg u
Of millions of men prolonged cheers
William Redmond, leader of the Parnri'i"''
said that the bill had been discussed sunic'c"''
by the House. Nothing was 10 be gaihca pS P''
longing the debate and a division was no" ''c'''
10 give effect to the wishes eNprcsSd v! ''o
Nation at the last general election. Mr.. keo'''o"'
ndiculed the idea that Ulster had ANYTHING %
fear from Catholic Ireland. If disturbances IN
Ireland should follow the passage of the DILL theS
would bc due to the conduct of the Oppos''i"'
Leaders, who bad not hcsitatcd 10 excite thc "ois'
passions OF both Catholics and Protestah'S
{" Hear. Hear
Sir George Trevelyan, Secretary for Scotia''o
who followed Mr.. Redmond made an elaborate
defence of the bill lie commended Sir Michaci