The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-09-22

not correct, although he thought the
journal clerk had shown good Judgment
In writing the Journal as he had. He had
stated that the Speaker had ruled out
certain motions yesterday on the ground
that they were dilatory motions. This
was not the fact, though II should have
been so. and he called the attention of
the Speaker to the matter. The Speaker
repIied that owing 10 the fact that the
Committee on Rules had been I'm session
this morning, he had not had an opportu-
nifty 70 examine the Journal, but from
listening 10 Il he was Of the impression
Il was not correct, lie took the Journal
10 examine H, and while he was doing
so. Messrs. Reed and Outhwaite had a
pleasant little passage with vocal foils,
which disturbed the Speaker In his ex-
animation. and he finally called both
gentlemen 70 order and stated that debate
was out of order ThereupOn Mr.. Reed
suggested that the approval OF the Jour
nal be postponed unti the Speaker had
an opportunity to examine f.. no RIGHTS
Of any member to find objection to II
being surrendered Ia The meantime. This
course was followed. and the House pro-
ceeded 10 business without approving the
Journal.
Mr. Catchings from the Committee on
Rules reported a resolution providing
that on September &th, the House shall
proceed 10 the consideration OF the Fede-
raj election bin that debate shall con-
tinue until October Oh. at the close Of
which day the ply cious question shall
be considered as ordered on the bill in
all it's stages, and on October 10th the
various votes shall be taken without
debate or intervening motion.
Mr. Catchings de1nanda1 the previous
question. and the yeas and nays were or
dered. The previous question was order
ed-ycas. 175: nays, i. The report OF the
Committee on Rules wss Gdopted-yeas,
49, nays. J.
Mr. Rusk Dem, Maryland) presented
a report from the Committee on Accounts,
recommending that those committees TO
which clerks we're assigned in the
Fifty-second Congress-thirty-six IN num-
ber-be assigned clerks IN the t1fty-third
Congress.
Mr.. Paynter Q<entucky), fo- himself
and Mr.. Muchler (Dem.. Penn.,l presented
a minority report recommending that
eleven OF the more uuimportant commit
tees be not assigned CLERKS. and that aH
clerks not made annual by the statute be
limited TO the session roll These reports
provoked a rather heated 6ebate, In the
course Of which Paynter said that he had
not expected 10 make a minority report,
iyt for reasons which he would not
then explain he had changed his mind.
But he felt II his duty 10 give 10 the
House the Information respecting the
work Of some Of the committees, ne
had gathered as a member OF the Commit
tee on Accounts lie had found, he said,
that the several Comm ittees on ExpendI-
2
stance. had not averaged more than one
report a year for the past eighteen years.
one committee In the Senate has Juris-
dictiOn OF all matters referred 70 these
eight or nine committees IN the House.
and II he could do so by his vote hA
would wipe them out of existence. There
were fifteen committees which he would
suggest in the interest OF practical econ
omy be deprived Of clerks.
Mr.. Pfynter was subjected TO a lively
cross-dre Of questions from numerous
members, and IN the course Of his an
swers he stated that his plan would save
81 $50 a month.
Mr. Paynter offered as a substitute for
the two reports from the committee
resolution providing for the allotment OF
clerks to committees so as TO carry out
the reduction he adj 1cated IA his re-
marks.
The substitute was agreed to-Yeas,
100; nays, IS.
Mr. Grain Dem, Texas) moved to re-
consider the vote, and pending that.
moved that the House adjourn. Pend
ing this motion the Speaker again sub
mitted this mornings Journal. He said
that the journal, as read this morning.
had not been examined by the Speaker,
as his duties compelled him to be present
al a meeting OF the Committee on Rules.
When IL was read this morning the Chair
had discovered that it was wrong in four
distinct particulars. The Journal had
stated that the Chair had given certain
reasons for his decisions yesterday, and
these reasons had been recorded incor-
rec;y. The House would remember
that ln some Of these decisions the Chair
had refrained from giving the reasons
on which he based his action The
Journal ought not 10 put into the
mouth Of the Speaker reasons that he
had not assigned for his rulings The
Speaker then presented his amendments,
and after Mr.. Reed had secured their
printing In the Record the Journal was
approved, and the House. at 4.I5. ad-
jOurned.