St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1893-07-07
CROSS EXAMINATION
Witness MeDonald's Veraeity
Questioned by Assistant
Chief Canterbury.
Allegations That He Could
Not Be Believed in Any
Case.
Witness Well Thought OF by
Policemen and Ac-
quaintanceS.
His Testimony Straightfor-
ward and Apparently I'M
impeaehable.

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resumed yesterday morning, all of the
committee being present at the opening
except Aid. Rand.
Officer Ben White was called in be-
half of Assistant Chief Canterbury, and
testified regarding the witness, c. A.
| Mcdonald, examined by the assistant
chief. He said he had known Melon
| aid for four years. Once arrested him
on charge of petit larceny. The
charge was stealing diamond pin from
a saloonkeeper. The pin was not found
on Mcdonald, and he was discharged.
Knew of no other scrapeS that McDon-
aid had been in. ICross-eXamined by
the committee, witness said Mcdonald
came here as cowboy connected with
some show.
Officer Tom Collins was called for the
same purpose. He had known Melon
aid six years. So far as he knew his
reputation was all right. Did not know
of his recent connection with any scrape.
A few years ago he was suspected of
| being connected with the stabblng of
man named Mcneil. Nothing was ever
proven. Mcneil himself did not know
| who cut him.
| Officer Fred Johnson was called by
the assistant chief. Had known Nc
Donald for three years. Had trouble
with him about that time. One Sunday
evening he was called to house. Nc
! Donald was there and had been drink
| ing, and was acting crazy. Mcdonald,
| who was then working for an express
| company, drew jackknife on witness,
| and ordered him down stairs. Witness
drew his gun on Mcdonald. and the
| latter's sister assisted to quiet him.
Sister told witness to look out for Nc
Donald or he would hurt him, for he
| had killed a negro with a monkey
wrench OIL the lower Mississippi. This
was the month that the Lumber ex-
| change burned.
Police Sergeant Leonard was sworn.
| Examined by Assistant Chief Canter-
bury, he said he had known Mcdonald
| for about three years, since he was on
| the department. Knew of the cases the
officers had testified nothing further
| affecting his character or his reputation
| for truthfulnesS.
Lieut.. E. LIewellyn, of No. engine
| house. was called by Assistant Chief
| Canterbury. Knew Mcdonald. He was
in the habit of making filthy and vile
remarks regarding women passing the
| engine house. This was objected to as
not bearing on the question of truth and
veracity, and was stricken out. He knew
nothing against McDonald's character
| or efficiency as fireman.
Fireman l.. Sharp, of Engine No. 10,
was called by Canterbury. He knew of
Mcdonald and knew of his dismissal
AlrN
served by Canterbury, Mcdonald said,
when Canterbury said he did not know
what the dismissal was for, that ne
would get even with Canterbury If it
took him five years; that Canterbury
had a seal skin cap which came easy.
Would not believe much that Mcdonald
said He drank considerable. Would
not believe Mcdonald on oath. To the
committee he said this was because he
had told so many stories that witness
knew were not true.
Aid. Lackey-What kind of stories do
You mean?
"Well, can't say exactly"
''Did he have any dealings with the
men?"
mo, not that know OFF,
"If he has told stories that you do not
/ believe, does that impeach his character
| for truth and yeracity?"
" L think 1t does"
"Do you think the stories you have
mentioned a sufficient reason for de-
claring you would not believe him
under oath?"
| ~ think So"
Further asked for specific instance
in which Mcdonald had told an un-
truth, witness replied that he could not
| remember.
| Capt. VIM. O'Neil, of Hook and Ladder
| No. 3, examined by Assistant Chief
| Canterbury, said he knew nothing of the
character of Mcdonald. He had not
subbed with him.
Fireman Charles CragIe, captain of
Station G., examined by Canterbury.
| knew Mcdonald, who had served under
| him. He had very mean disposition,
and was one of the filthiest and dirtiest
takers he ever knew. Talked vulgarity
all the time. Heard him tell many times
of clubbing "niggers'' in the South:
that he knocked them off the boats with
| a club. Would not believe him under
| oath.
The committee then took up the case
| OF John Horton, charged with INSIDE
meanor as veterinary surgeon, in board
ing horses at the city's expense. Mr..
Horton, to the charges, when read,
which were the same as in the grand
| jury presentment, pleaded not guilty,
and waived any technical objection to
the procedure.
J c. Ii. LIE Mars was called and testi-
fed: Was i'll the department three
years; was in care of the horses at
Franklin avenue engine house in March,
1892; know Veterinary Horton, the ac-
cused; had one horse there about six
months, belonging to MIR. SwenSon:
| kept in the city hospital barn, at No.
| If I0
and fed it out of the city feed; Horton
treated the horse; saw him use the
medicine; it was city medicine; it was
from the city hospital stores; saw him
| take it from the stores: just the same as
any city horses; did not see SWenson
pay for the horse. myself: other horses
were kept in the same way.
occasionally; Horton told him to feed
those horses. This one for six months.
Sam Swenson came to look at the horse
occasionally. Knew the other horses,
brought them here; not department
horses, because firemen did not bring
them. Think as many as eight or ten
different horses, besides the SYenson.
were thus kept while witness was there.
Chored and fed and watered these
horses himself. A fireman named Nc
Auliffe, of No, Is, owned one of these
horses. The fireman's horse was only
examined and not Kept there. Never
reported this to Lieut.. Cheatham, of No.
10; knew of this and kicked about it.
| Horton used his private barn part of
the time tor department horses. When
feed was delivered, it was divided, part
to the city and part to Horizons barn.
The feed was hay, oats, corn, etc. :;
helped to handle it and knew it was city
feed. Saw Horton also feed his cow
from the city feed.
| Cross-eXamlned by Horton witness re-
peated his statements substantially.
Was not positive but that he had seen
water works horses; had not seen any
police horses at the hospital.
To the Committee-Was asked to re-
sign from the fire department. Have
been here eight years.
Lieut.. John Cheatham, of No. Is, was
| sworn--Had been five years in the SER
| VICE. was detailed from No. at the