New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-09-28

MI OIadstOic lnstdnccd the case OF SI hp"'i'
Peel refusing at the general elections to explain
| the details Of the now Corn law until he WAS
put into Office The countrys ignorance of the
clauses of the Irish Dises,ablishmcnt bill in
1868 instanced similar case. "1heSe,
continued the speaker, arc the very things 10
| be intrusted TO dcberativc assemblies. If not
| such assemblies are useless The business OF a
self governing country is clearly to take IN forcioN
great Ideas and, wien they ire conprohcnded' 10
| STICK To them. content that It's representatives
shall give the ideas full legislative effect.
LORDS CANNOT FORCE \ DISSOLUTION BY VOTE
| Tho plea that the Home Rule bill WAS in
sufficiently discussed is equally hlmsN. and the
| House OF Lords did well to avoid these fallacour
| pretenccs, the adoption Of which would have
shown egregious folly and want OF tnct and skill
| For they disposed in four days of bill that oc-
| cupled the attention Of the House of Commons
! eighty two days. Then there is the third plea.
that the Lords are entit led indeed, l-tnlnk tncl
say bound ly duty-to require reference 10 inc
country That is not constitutional. The doctrine
Of the Constitution shows that 4 2 rrsponsIhe
Ministry advises dissolution OF Parliament tnei"
ought TO 10 dissolution at the rlsk 0i 'h' NH
istry; and the House of Commons has power,
which il has frequent 5 exercised, to fore dls
solution by vote But such thing has 'rcn l"-
garded al any period Of our history ~ dissolution
brought About by vote Of the House OF l.oidS
Such contention IS eroS', Il no2stlous h'!o, ID
men are fonder Of these doctrines t'Ilh thc mod-
ern Tories. except il be the modern | lnIonlst>.
But in addition TO being newfan@lcd doctrine,
hold tnat it is nothing less than hich treason II
this is to continue TO be a >clfcoverrbg country
Let me put myself in the pl zee of the li"!-"
of Lords. 1t says. YOU have repreSentHtIV'
government. You, as representatives of IN" p'0-
pie, are returned TO Parliameni to do the pnS,,
mess of the couprg 80 happen, Gnt o on '0
the freshest and youngest ana most vigorous ~
PaIlaments measured by Il willingness 10 rn-
counter Snrt labor and conf make personal 9a ,bd b sa
ness Of the country for seven years. lon
have done that business for ncarly wear Nol
have consulted the electors I'll bu.l1oss and
have acted on the opinion of the county Oh the
question of Irish government Our CHIN Is Z"
step IN between you and the country, I" hul-
lify the verdict Of the country, and send you
back 10 yopr constituents instead OF allowing
you To prosecute the public business.
POSITION OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Now let me humbly presume to spcal, fer the
House of Commons. should say we admit that
the majority may misintcrprct tie voic" and
Judgment of the country though II We do mis-
interpret them. we ought n be called u account
hy those entitled to call rs TO account: namely,
the people Of the countIy-invitc1 by In" crown
and the Minister'S in whose hands is lodged thc
prcrogativc of dissolution. What VIII happen
if we have mlsintcrpreted the Judgment of the
country? We will be sent to the risht-about,
Great as the evil j., infinitely prefer II TO
the other evil. namely. intcrceptine the opinion
If the country and attempting 10 cnntraWnc i
by the u>. Of some irregular, cNtr&ncJu> machln-
cry. But we make this plea we say It "" are
punished. why should not the majority iii ~"
House Of Lords also be punished when 1t mlSin-
terprets the Judgment of t." country Let uS
have fair play and favor. Why should The
Nousc of Lords be allowed to pass on with I'M
punity-an mpunity which only encourages them
10 repeat upon the first occasion a similar prank 10
tnat they have Just committed?
Depend upon it, II is an extremely serious
matter On the supposI'loh 'nst & you could SUD ono
consequences as those you can lay upon ma
jority of the Commons. there would be something
at least Like "a prms facic case OF justice and
equality, some small plea for this utle Of the
House of Lords TO the right 10 correct the iudg-
mcnt Of the House Of Commons and 10 send them
back 70 tho country. But there is not even the
proceeding. That being so, have arrived az
very serious position. and the grand question
is, how we to escape from il ?'
After passing reference 10 the intelligence and
incompatible unity if the Liberals, without which
the minority would. hc said, have broker down
and destroyed the bill without sending il 10 the
House Of Lords, Mr.. Gladstone continued:
Il not sure when Lord Salisbury
threatened, a yeai ago. 20 destroy the Home Rn!r
Till that the Lords recc2ni2cd that this might
involve the question OF their own independent AMI
responsible existence. prolonged cheers If II
shond ever happen in the vici~siudc' of political
ai airs that the, House Of Lords, by acciicn;
or collateral process, should bring about dis
solution Of the House of Comnns, depend upon
il. the people vii not consider Home Rala alone
but will mix with II another question. on which
the Lords may bitterly lament, when il J. too
late, that they ever raised an issue.
After Il tribute Of respect and admiration for
the personal qualities Of the peers a. indlydua.s,
Mr. Gladstone contcndcd that abstract rights pos
sesscd by both the Lords and the Commons must
always tie exercised with the utmost discr"tlo;-
il those rights are 10 be permanently preserved.
ON this occasion. he said, discretion had been EN-
tircly and absolutely wanting.
In regard 10 the manner of facing the situation.
MIR Gladstone said that there c,uld not be pro
cured u cut-and-dlcd solution Of the dilemma.
rl~ was neither the tim" nor the pl aoc 10 con
slider the matter. lie counsellcd neither violence
nor vchcmCncc. All that was Eecc ssi'ly was
quiet determination TO cline 10 ,hc hope thht
better cOun>cls wOGId prevail 2ud induce IN"
House of Lords TO grfnt to Ireland som@ lNt sati-
faction Of her national aspirations. If the worst
came. the consolation that coEId br o1"frd
would he to remind them of recent history and OF
the vasi changes Of the last sixty y,irs h'' one
of which originated III the lionsc OF Lords or was
rlCmJt,d by Lords, or the cNlstrnc" OF winch on
Tie statute-bool due to .hc impartial opinion
nf thc Iorls To every or" Of those changes tho
on,nion Of the House of Lords had been adycrs'.
although its manifestation might hay" been prII-
IDENTIFY restrained, and might perhaps be pFdd'htly
restrained again.
THE NATION WILL NOT RE BAFFIED
For my party" said Mr.. Gladstone, find
this retrospect sufficiently encouraging. If the
Nation is determined, it will not be bahlcd by a
pbalanX of 800 peers. We have the will of th"
country to execute, and cannot submit TO the
Uousc of Lords although they bear higl-sonndln-
titles and sit in a gildcd chamber. The next |
session will not pass without y)ur seeing tn's sno-
ect again appearing above the waves whcrc IL
has for the moment appeared 10 founder. Inc
Nation has given us the authority and propelled
H. on our course. and it is duty and oar hope
and belief that shall find. with the help oi the
Almighty means to reach the goal
W the tIosc of the speech tllcre was prolonged
cheering vote OF thanks 10 Mr. Gladstone wa
.b.. cd
;mmon.e crowd followed the Prcmlcr's carriage as
he drove TO his hotel In response 10 the cheers
Of the crowd. Mr. and Mrs Gladstone appeared
Oh the hotel balcony and lowed their dcknowlede-
ments.
dIAPN At BRUNSWICK.