Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1893-12-13
PRESIDENT DOLE TALKS
Any Attempt at Restoration Would Be
Resisted With Arms
The United States Would Have q LIT.
tie War on Its Hands-The Queen
Not Allowed to Reign.

The Honolulu correspondent of the New
York World, writing under date of Deem |
Der 3. gives an account Of an interesting
interview with President Dole
President Dole received the correspond |
ent in a large and rather plainly furnished
room. He is about fifty-five years old, tall
and mild of feature and manner. He was
born in the islands. He is the son Of an
American missionary and looks like a mis-
sionary himself. He was one Of the just
ices Of the supreme court under the queen.
His wife was from Castine, Me.
I'VE were very much surprised at the
Gresham letter.. said Mr. Dole, land nat
urally it was not pleasant news. We think
we are in the right. We represent nearly
all the property on the islands. We are
furnishing a good government and We
mean to uphold 1t. The queen was dethron
ed because she tried to usurp the rights Of
the Hawaiian people. We mostly
Americans here and would like to be an
nexed. but II the United States does not
want us We can preserve our independence
and get along by ourselves. We deny the
right Of Secretary Gresham and Mr.. Cleve-
land to consider any question save that of
annexation. That alone was submitted by
the provisional government of Hawaii We
are a treaty-making power. We have been
recognized as such. and We deny the right
of the United States to interfere In our IN
ternal affairs. But We appeal from Ores
ham to the American people. We believe
that they are for us. and will not allow
Hawaii to be ill-treated."
Suppose the United States government
should decide or has decided to restore the
queen to the throne. what would the pro-
visional government dor
I'VE would resist any such act.
he Ua. nj
Suppose the minister should have orders
to land marines from the American war
ships and enforce the restoration Of the
queen what then?'
1--WE would resist with our army. We
would compel the United States to fire upon
u.s. which would constitute a declaration Of
war upon Hawaii"
And after that?"
81 can't say what would come next"
Would the provisional government make
an appeal to Great Britain, or any other
foreign power?"
II do not think so. If not annexed by
the United States, it Is not to our inter.
est to join any other country. but stia
simply to remain the Hawaiian republic
should become the permanent government.
what plans has it for Hawaii in regard TO
the suffrage and other important matters!
lowing to the unsettled condition of af-
but something in the way of property or
education qualifications would probably
limit the suffrage. At present all the male
residents of proper age in the Islands, ex,
cept the Chinese and Japanese, are entitled
to vote. Since the establishment of the
provisional government the Japanese gov
eminent is bringing much pressure to bear
upon us to give the people of their nation
atty here the suffrage. The Chinese APP
pear to be indifferent"
IF the United States should replace the
queen on the throne and withdraw Its forces.
saying the future rested with the Hawaiians
themselves. what would be the result?
"She would not be allowed to reign"
"She would be quickly deported, would
she not? Her person would not be safer
Il cannot say whether 1t would or not"
Last Thursday a meeting Of the advisory
council, which is composed Of the principal
officers of the provisional government, was
held, and IL Is said that a final decision
was taken to resist with force any attempt
of the United States to restore the queen.
An evidence of this was the occupation
yesterday, by the forces of the government.
Of the Punch Bowl. q hill 700 or 800 feet
high. about a half mile back Of the town.
The Queens Side.
The queen, says the World correspondent.
is living in secIuslon at her private resi-
dence about 200 yards from the palace.
The World correspondent called there, but
her advisers did not allow her to discuss
political questions.
She is a woman of considerable dignity
and speaks English fluently. does every
body else of prominence in Honolulu The
people around the person of the queen
would not discuss the situation. They say
1t is wise for them to keep quiet and that
they can we'll afford to do So as the United
States is going to restore her. But the roy
alist newspaper organ, the Holonoma, COM
ments very freely upon political matters.
In fact, the newspapers here indulge in a
freedom of expression not known even in
America. Edmund Norris, Dane by birth,
Is the editor of the Hononoma. He Is
near relative of Samuel Parker, the queens
premier, and is devoted to the throne
THE queen is to be restored to the
throne" he said to the World correspon-
dent. There is no doubt about it. Minis
ter Willis has received his instructions to
that effect, and he will carry them out"
ut is reported that the queen will not
accept the throne unless she is granted the
protection of the United States. Is that
true?"
cit is not true. She will be able to main
tain herself upon the throne"
But the provisional government has the
army, the cannon, the rifles and the am
munition.
1.-The adherents Of the lawful sovereign
have men and arms, too. If it comes 20 a
fight between us, the friends of the pro-
visional government will last just about
twenty-three minutes. We can beat them
easily"
Some arms have come into the island for
which the provisional government cannot
account. and they are believed to be in the
hands OF the royalists, but the royalists
have no military organization whatever
and II fighting occurs, 1t seems to the cor
fespondent,they would make about as much
showing against the forces of the govern
me1t as the Matabeles did against the Brit
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