The evening world., 1893-12-05
IS SHEEHAN DOWN?
Not Croker, but the Lieutenant-
Governor Out with Hill.
Recast Of the Democratic State
Machine Certain.
A Tammany Leader Gives What Ara
Said TO BE Facts.

Mayor Gilroy was interviewed this
morning by an Evening World'' re-
porter regarding the reported split be-
tween Richard Croker and Senator Hill.
Senator Hill is said to have dissolved
the partnership heretofore existing be-
tween himself, Croker, Sheehan, MUIR
ply n Mclaughlin, and set up busI-
ness :or himself. one pretended author
IT, e EN- went SO far as to say tina Sem
ator Hill would join the Anti-Snappers
If ENCOURAGEMENT was offered to him.
Mayor Gilroy smiled when he read
that. 1T is difficult" said he. 80 dis
associate the name Of David Bennett
Hill from the machine. I have no, seen
Senator Hill for six months. 1 have
not seen Senator Murphy since the cleo
tion. Mr.. Croker l nave seen about four
times since election.
II Mr.. Croker was on the outs with
Senator Hill would probably know 1t. l
cannot speak from actual knowledge. You
can't tell nowadays what may occur, but
| should say the report was not true"
Tammany men generally consider the
story ridiculous.
Whas purports to be the true story
Of wharf happened between Messrs. Hill
and Croker was told to a reporter this
morning by a Tammany leader who is
W WIN NV i"N'F.
There was some plain talk between
the leaders as to the causes which led
TO- the party,s defeat. Instead of HIN
blamed him for forcing the nomination
of Maynard.
1T is well known that Maynard was
nominated against the advice and tudg-
men. of Croker, Mclaughlin and Shee-
han.
Senator Hill admitted that Maynard's
nomination was one of the causes that
raGp1tpl in the nN,arthrpU He IafaniaJ
his action on the ground that Maynard's
nomination was a natural and logical
sequence to previous events, and the
party was IN honor bound to make 1t.
The re 'ult was disastrous. but May
nard's nomination alone did not bring
about disaster.
falo and M~cLaughlin's ruinous ring policy
in Brooklyn were prime factors in the
downfall of the machine.
Senator Hill pointed out the mistakes
of Sheehan and Mclaughlin in forcing
ring legislation and ring nominations. 1t
might he considered inconsistent for Sem
the light Of events. but so he considers
the nomina lions of Body and others.
Body could have been turned down with
ont injury to the narty in brooklyn; but
Maynard's cause was the cause of the
whole party. In defeating Maynard the
Democratic voters gave their leaders n
lesson that thev are not likely to and
Senator Hill is likely to profit by the
lesson. He is a man Of sound Judgment
and quick to see n point. In speaking
of the subject to his partners he no
doubt used very plain language. but a
partnership of such long standing and
founded on such close relations as exist
between Croker and Hill is not so
readily dissolved as the published story
indicates.
"Of course, the conference was secret
and whatever of the proceedings
dribbled out was necessarily in garbled
form. This accounts for the fact that
the talk between the leaders was mis-
construed or misrepresented.
THAT there will be a [lcast OF the
machine survives Lieut.. Gov. Sheehan
will be compelled to take a back seat. 1t
is not Croker, but Sheehan, who is out.
"The machine is still in business, and
next few months so as to be in shape
for aggressive work in 1894 and for David
T.. Hill in go