The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1893-05-19
THURSDAY, May 18th.


King and Smith, and Councilman
Allen, Wilder, Mott, Morgan, Young,
Tenney, Brown, McChesney, Water
house, Bolte, Emmeluth, Suhr and
Hatch.
Nobusiness was transacted until I'M
finished business was reached.
President Dole stated that a new
bill had been prepared to amend the
liquor law so as to remove the diff
Guilty of finding the responsible per-
sons when violations of the law occur.
The infractors in cases of transgres-
ments can be made, and the present
bill is to cover such cases.
Mr. Brown of the judiciary commit
tee said the bill makes the barkeeper
responsible; the old law was defective
and allowed a corporation to escape
punishment, as it cannot be inn
prisoned-
Secretary Rodgers read the bill, san
act to regulate the sale of spirituous
LIQUORS" to amend the old law
After considerable discussion, Presi-
dent Dole stated that there was neces-
as a certain large license expires soon,
and it is desirable TO have the matter
disposed of before that time. He saw
no difficulty, however, in having the
bill 90 to the judiciary committee, as
suggested by Mr.. Damon, as IL could
then be acted upon next Monday,
which would be in time.
Referred to the Judiciary committee.
Mr.. Emmeluth introduced the fol-
lowing resolution:
Resolved: That n special commit
tee of these councils, namely: Mr.. It.
C. Porter of the executive council,
Messrs. s. NJ. Damon (vice-president),
Henry Waterhouse, Jas. +. Morgan
and r. w. McChesney, of the adj
visory council, be appointed for the
purpose of inquiring into the manage
ment of the various departments
under this government, and to recon-
mend such changes in the conduct of
the same as will tend to greater effici-
ency and economy in the public ser
vice.
Mr.. Brown wished to have the
scope and extent of the application of
the resolution explained before he
could vote for it.
Mr.. Emmeluth read the latter part
of the resolution in answer to Mr..
Browns question, and said he thought
it was plain enough. The government
was trying TO economic. The resolu-
ton did not propose to interfere with
the government, but asked the appoint
ment of a special committee TO aid
and assist. The finance committee
was represented on the committee
proposed.
Mr.. Waterhouse thought the mover
of the resolution, Mr.. Emmeiuth.
should be put on the committee. Ie
would Withdraw in his favor.
Mr.. Damon said he was very busy
on the finance committee. A1r. En-
meluth's idea was valuable one, but
he did not wish to be on the commit
tee because be did not have time.
Mr.. Brown thought the special
committee was good enough, but it
might clash with the labor and re-
Communications of the finance COM
mittee; or was the special committee
10 relieve the finance committee? The
idea of investigations was good one,
but he still thought, as he always |
had, that the councils should not in |
terfere with the executive. 1t would |
impair the service OF the government |
and would unsettle its business man |
agement. He thought special COM !
mittee would not be judiciOus.
Minister Porter sad no members of |
the executive should be on the COM |
mittee proposed, but was of the opin |
ion a special committee could find /
plenty of investigating work in the l
different departments where good sug-
gestions could be made. The depart
ments had been received by the Pro-
yisional government in bad state /
and needed investigation. While
none of the departments feared inves-
tigation he thought no member of the
executive should sit upon his own
case.
Mr.. Morgan did not think special
committee was necessary, and he did
not want to he on committee; he
thought the present finance commit
tee could do the whole work.
Mr.. Emmeluth sail he, as mover of
the resolution, was perfectly willing
for il to go TO the finance committee
if IL would be attended to. He thought |
there was much to be done. There
might be some clashing, as Mr.. Brown
had mentioned, but there had already
been some unavoidable clashing ow-
ing to the baGiy-mixed state the gov
eminent had been found in when they
took hold. The object of the commit
tee was to bring matters needing at
tention to the notice of the executive
President Dole stated that the
cabinet was already experimenting to
reduce expenses by say % per cent.
by increasing the working hours of
government employees. 1t woulc,
however, take some time to find out
what effect this plan of economy would
have, and how far the government
could go.
Mr.. Tenney did not think the spec
ial committee work proposed would
be practical; they would still have to
question heads of departments to get
at the real state of affairs. He there
lore thought the heads should act
from the first with the advice of the
executive.
Mr.. Wilder said at first he favored
the resolution, but now since listening
70 the debate, thought a special COM
mlttee would be mistake. The last
legislature had made a similar error
oy appointing ways and means COM
mittee to keep an incapable ministry
rom laundering. He moved the reso-
luton be laid upon the table.
Mr.. Young thought Mr.. Emmeluth's
mention was honest, but believed no
interference should be allowed. The
executive were doing their best. A
ssduction would likely be effected as
7'on as the cabinet could determine