The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1893-06-16

back stairs. / can't say how long I had
been in the house. but when | cams out
| think / saw Mr.. Fleet on the north side
| of tue honse. Then went around on
| the east side, walking along the Kelly
| fonce; walked along ollie of lumber, and
then came to the barn. where | think
there were two or three persons inside.
Coming out of the barn Walter
Stevens and / went around the house
looking for footprints. We tried the
cellar door. but found it fast never
saw Medley there: got back to the Office
at 11:50.
MATRoN RaAGAN's DENIALs.
Il remember the pubiicatioh of Mrs.
Reaxan's story, and l had an interview
with her. I think it was the same night
of the publication, In answer to ques-
tton from me, she said there WAS nothing
in 1t. Iwanied to know whether IL was
true or not. aud | wanted negative or
affirmative statement.
Cross-exalnined-s'I saw Mrs. Reagan
at her house. There was another person,
with me. l had nothing to do with the
affidavit. didn't read the story to her;
just told her what had been printed. l
don't recall what she said to me about
believing what saw in the newspapers.
but won't say she didn't say it, or that
she didn't say she would tell her story in
csurt."
While Mr.. Manning was giving his
testimony, in which he was asked to par
ticularly describe tho bodies when he
saw them, Miss Borden kept her hand
kerchief up to her eyes.
Thomas E. Hickey, another reporter,
was called to testify as to what was said
ny Mrs Reagan regarding the same mat
ter when he called upon her. He told
her, hs said. that she seemed to be get
ting herself iuto the papers. to which
she replied that they, meaning the news
papers, would have to take it all back.
Il asked her," said the witness. elf
there had been quarrel between the
Misses Borden, and she told me there
was no truth in 1t at all.
'She denied, also, that she had ever
heard Miss Borden say You gave me
away"
CHINESE CLASS.
Mary Emma Holmes, the next witness /,
told something that was en5irely new
aud sensational. 1t was that Lizzie
Borden mad taught class of Chinese in
the Sunday school with which both she
and the witness twere connected. She
did not tell how many Chinese were in
the class. Mr.. Jennings did not ask her
about that,
10 some of the questions put to her
subsequently,. Mrs. Holmes went little
further IN her answ ers than counsel
cared to have her. Sne was advised not
to do so.
Excuse me-" she said so sharply as to
cause laugh In the audience, Pm not
used to this business, and I expect to
| overstep.n
.Dr. Bowen" witness continued.
shut the der after he came in, and
wnen Flest Gaze he opened it to see who
1T was; | knew the doctor would not let
him in until after he had consulted us.
| When Fleet came in he asked Lizzie some
| questions. and Lizzie said she wished he
| would be quick about it fol-
she was very tired, having an
| swered great many questions.
She told about going to the barn aud
proceeded to- search the room and had
| Lizzie's free consent, and they made
what should call thorough search.
| should think they were in the room talk
1 ing and searching half an hour. All tn,
time Miss Lizzie was lying down. re
mained in the house until half-pest eight
| There was use for the toilet article!
| that afternoon for washing and various
purposes.
AT THE FUNERAL
Witness WAS asked as to LiZZie's con
duct over her fathers body on the day o.
! the funeral, but this was objected TO on
| the rart of The Government and with
4 drawn. Question as to%yhether she went
1 to look at her fathers body before tht
funeral was objected to, but til.
Court, assuming the question to be pre-
| liminary, allowed it to be answered
| witness answering in the affirmative
/ Witness was asked what Miss Lizzie die
| when she went down into the room ant
this was objected to; thereupon the Che
Justice called counsel to the desk foi
] consultation, the result of which wa
that the question was changed to IA
| this time. when she was viewing he
father. did she she'd tears? The answe
was yes.
Witness. continuing. said: II saw som,
| bandkerchiefs on the dav of the murder
| some were ironed, some were not: th
iroued ones were put in the drawer
Wnen arrived there Lizzie had pinl
and white striped wrapper on; the dres
| shown in court was produced again aui
| witness said Lizzie had it on Fri
day morning and she though
on Saturday. Miss Lizzie wa
to go to Marion. but didn't go with Ih
party. | remember the publication 0
the gu arrel story; after it was published
I had talk with Mrs. Reagan about il
| she spoke 10 me about it.. She said:-
Mrs Holmes, you know it isn't so; fo
that was The time we were talking abon
the eggs. 1t was on Friday this oc
| curred.n
/ / remem.ber a time after that converse
tion. the same night | think it was, whei
was sitting Ia the matron's fooui, whel
some gentlemen came and talked witt
Mrs. Reagan. She went out and cam
| back, seeming quite disturbed, she wen
by me and sat down, saying nothing t.
me, | heard nothing of the con'
versation between her and th
men before they all wen
out. There was some conversation be
tween her and Mrs. Brigham, but | eau
not recall it. | heard Mrs. Reagan sa,
she would eign the paper If Marshal Hill
lard was willing; this was to the gentle
men who came in and she said it just be
fore she went out OF the room.
1 Cross s-examined-All the time Mis-
Borden was in the matron's room sh
had the privilege of receiving certain
friends, l only know there were som
excluded because / was tolp that al
exception had been made in my case.
When Mrs. Holmes said thnt Mis-
Lizzie taught Sunday school class
Isurpfised murmur went tn. .ough In
court room. The prisoner put her hand
kerchief up to her face.
MATRON REAGAN'S vERACITY.
/ John Il. CALDWELL reporter. testifiel
| Marshal Hiliiara told Mrs Reagan if sh
/ signed the denial of the You gave m
l away" story, it would be against his ex
press orders. Mary E. Brign am testifie
| that Matron Readau said about the storl
sit is all lie from beginning to end.
was willing TO sign that paper, but th
j Marshal would not let me-"
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