New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-09-10

rur COMMONS-PLANS FOR NEXT SESSION
PREPARING FOR A GENERAL ELECTION
CHoLERA-LABoR TROUBLESOME.
AsToR AND THE DUKE
OF WESTMINSTER.
tpY CABLE TO THK TRrBuyE)
r.nv,,om 1913: By Tribune Assoctanon.
,,.naor Sent. 9.-After full dress debate
1ud,rr over four days, the House of Lords
g.. nirbt threw out Mr.. Gladstone's cherished
...ure by a majority of ten TO one. 1t is not
- that the House of Peers is called upon
'..io,slv 10 debate any measure of leading I'M
.r.once Whenever this necessity arises the
s,rntrv is treated TO "a spectacle very diilereh,
,.on, what is usually seen in the lower chalii-
her The latter is a popular body. 1niiuehceu o'
.hs ever-ehanging fancies and necessl'les oi
.,h,ic opinion; ; and though much OF Its iaoor Is
s.,,o,ed 10 answering legitimate popular demahus'
,here is running through all its work the lhueii-
HE stain of party warfare
Ir the Lords it is not so. Inc peers nave noo
=. answer TO any ccnstitucnts anu herein ileS
A.. chief recommendation of the heredl,y system
wboneyer a big legislative proposal comes oeiore
A. Lords though we may reckon upon Il uss'inoc
s;os in favor of the interests OF property III Is
,uars a matter of certainty that the nlScuss'oh
I, he Of higher class than is ever afforded py the
,owar chamber In the latter one man, Mr. "iao-
..onc stands head and shoulders ABOVE every
.,a. Mr. Chamberlain and Mr.. Balfour are
ere debaters, but every other name iass ihI w
.i"d In tho House of Lords there are dozen
sneakers. who are. perhaps, not conpara"'e WIN
NJ Gladstone hut who are in all respec's ''e
eoual in some the superior, Vi ei'"ci -
herlain or Mr. Balfour.
Of hp
g.. hoon once more illustrated in this weeks us
u,..;ors Nothing has been finer in oratorlcai'
d;a,act;cal dsplay than the speeches OF the Duke
- nevonshirc. the Duke of Argyll, Lord oei-
ho,ne Lord Rosebcry and Lord Salisbury IL
20. nm fortunate for the Government party that
o., ovarv ono who could support the Home hu'e
ILL .ho Onposition had three speakers against
=, nor can il be denied that the weight ol arsu-
mont is entirely on the side of the opposluon'
u nth. there is some ground for complaint
A.. ,ho case for the bill has been indiiierenuy
mn, In the upper chamber Earl Spencer WHO
;rt,odnced il. had the merit OF earnes'ness si"-
rer;tv and courtesy: hut his grounds ior propoS
;rg the vast changes involved in Home hule "ei'
.m,lv feeble His speech abounded WIN neoidi"
,;ons NJ Il believe this. Il beneV" 'h"''
teeve the other: but Earl spencer "''''
.en. tor no more than the beliefs of other people
VIM
yd.h leaders were guilty of dlscredItaoie "o'N'
-. .sos.od as a sort Of crowninG faith the be-
N.f that the Irish nation would at once c''oo''
a., ;,h. mon m serve them, the Duke oil Devon
e "a had no difficulty in showing up the lohE
:, ,b;s su,ple faith as contrary 10 all past en-
..-;.nca The Duke OF Devonshires case wa
verv strong in this aspect, that the home hui' NUN
tI, MA, not the bill of legislature or'"f poi'i-
,.l .,arty but procee1ed from the orain OF Oh"
man who never dared to make II known II" Vr7
.l.ctorate. Consequently it was a primary hP
cs.dtv that Mr.. Gladstone should 90 to the couh-
fTy upon the measure a.
This is. of course the watchword oi ''e opPo-
Gtion warfare. ,.ao
Il "a impossible to 90 through tie ehtlre courN'
~ This remarkable debate, hut in addition 10 'ho
meeebes already named there are TWO OF '"ree
bthers which stand out as OF the hfs' lrp ''"''
Ina Duke of Argyls will compare WIN any
shtns over oppressed by Lord Salisbury, Mr' bal-
Nv chsmberlain a. contribution of the
b,,best value on this subject. 1t was tcrrihc
hnsl.uobt mon Mr. Gladstone personally Al
,hougb he gave the latter credit for sincerity
-. 4. ,r.s thc sincerity of fanatic. ME- uau-
.tora wos a Nahdi Grand Paniandrum' a con-
,rror medicine man, whose party followed hiu'
7,;,h servilitv These words will stick far more
than ANYTHING that can be found in the duli ne-
N,cs of ord Playfair, or t'e rfhpsod'caI u''ei-
ances of Lord Ripon ~
Rut from certain points Of view Lord Rose
krys speech was the most rehlafRaple VI ="
whole debate 1t was singular aeiNe'"n'''
more like an after-dinner speech than de'eh'e Vi
exnsnation of a State proposal III "@s "''.
iu,elv without enthusiasm for the Dill, which ~
desyibeA a. an experiment Inc who" 'one "
hk speech seemed TO suggest that, as s""ne'"n9
had IN bc done for Ireland, they nl9ht as "o,
read the bill second time and, having a"'ehusu
il. give Home Rule trial. Ills pes' po,"' 49,
.st,nr tho Onnositon what other remedy they
had to propose what they mean. 10 ~ "i,'
land He evidently did not like the famous
N,., r,.,s which Lord Selborne had made the
hu,do, q, his judicial analysis and condemnation
r,on tho sneech of the Lord Chancellor, which
49, ,ho host ona on the Government side "ds
distinctly apologetc. Lord Salisbury gave
mo,o ,e,nerate address than might have peeh
exnocted Vpon one point he gave emphati5
.n.,yor IN Lord Rosebery's inquiry; he revive"
his old declaration that the true rei'ious
for Ireland was twenty years oil resoiu'e govern
ment lie repudated the oft-told hctioh 'ha' Nv
s L. .o,,oacres ever contemplated creating a
n.rliament in Dublin and denounced the cow
ardice NJ surrender TO men branded with CRIME.
Tho reract of the Lords is treated Dy 'he
rau.ra,ers this morning according to thelI party
color hut no one can deny the high quality OF
their debate their full knowledge Of details, ana
the probable consequences to this iii-fa'ed meas
ure II is probable that any effort 70 raiSe '"e
CRY Down with the upper chamber VIII prove
q miserable failure.
The course of business in the lower mouse h"'
been pretty much as I indicated The chamoer
accepted the resolution of Mr. Gladstone gi'.ns
him large control over members time ,''' 'ne
Propagation at Christmas As origlnaiiy P'o-
posed. Mr.. Gladstone's resolution would nave
made him ohsolute master of every hour between