St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1893-04-13
swell, 1 think we ought to hear 1t,

Mr.. 6ackus continued. ~ said: 'Mr.
Markham. there are several or our
boys who think you are in favor of that
bill. Dave Willard does Markham
said: Dave Willard don't know what
he is talking about. 1t is going to take
some money to get favorable report"
ibid he intimate that he wanted
money. or that it would take money"'
THAT it would take money"
MIR. Markham, interrupting, said: II
never said that wanted money i'll lieu
of my vote"
After tilt between Mr.. Boggs and
the committee cross examination was
deferred. and the witness continued:
The last talk about money was in the
smoking room of the house when it was
expected the bill would be taken up.
MIR. Markham said: If you fellows (the
lumbermen) are not going to put any
money into it you may
Just as Well G. o Home
and stay there"
You have an association" asked tine
chairman.
Eyes. l am member of the Mime
apolis Lumber exchange. We each pay
something like $40 per year to keep up
the organization" . .f...-
By Mr.. Markham-In referring to
This way-that | understood Brown was
over here, and would use money to kill
the bill?
mo, SIR"
Markham-Did you have any more
than two conversations?
"4eS, sir; Que at your desk, one
the door of the committee room and ON
i'll the working room Of the house."
Markham-Did you not understand at
that time that it wonId take from $1,000
to 81, 800 for expenses for the bill taxing
railroad lands?
mo, ST."
1--WE did have some talk about the tax
bilI?''
Eyes. ST."
MIR. Boggs cross.eXamined the witness,
and drew out an admission that the lum-
bermen were mad at Markham, for,
having believed him friendly to the
bill, they found he had opposed it; it
also appeared that certain notifications
had been made in the bill. The bill had
been subject of discussion in Mime
apoliS at meeting of lumbermen, but
there was no disposition there to put up
any money.
Mr.. Boggs-Did Mr.. Markham ask
you for any money for himself?
NO"
ibid he ask you for money either di.
rectly or indirectly"
mo. only as have Indicated"
Markham-Didn't L tell you that if
the majority of the loggers and lumber
men were opposed to the bill I'd be
against it? There were forty-one Pc
titions, thirty-siX of which were in OPP
position.
The Chair-1n the opinion OF the wit
ness it was intlmated that it would be
necessary to use some money if the 9TH
ers Brown had used money.
Made a Cold Bluff
The witness, referring to Mr.. Mark
ham: II thought he made as fair and
square bluff for money as ever
heard, and that he was one of the
four So help me God, that's what L
thought"
Chairman Wilson-Have you given
all that Mr.. Markham said?"
[ Witness observation-disclosures was one
more rem ark-this: 81 must be with the
rest of them, and I'm oDe of the four"
That's the only time he indicated to me
that he would take any money at all.
Mir. Wacek-The proposition came
plain that it would take $1,000 to get a
favorable report?
Zine proposition came plain, t not
in the nature of demand"
Another tilt followed concerning the
time ana place of the conversations, but
the witness stuck close to his original
statements. He said lie was up at the
logging camps when the bill was killed.
He said: Il understood that if that
money had been forthcoming MIR. Mark
ham would designate where it was to
go, and that it would take $500 apiece
for four"
why did you say in the presence of
MIR. Greer that he (Markham) did not
ask for money?'
- Il don't understand that he directly
or Indirectly demanded any money!"
Il MIR. Boggs desired that the record
| make this showing.
D Mr.. Observation-Disclosures about the tax
bill didn't say that the lumbermen of
ltaSca, CaSS and other counties were i'll
tereSted in it, and that the lumbermen
ought to rustic around and put in some
money, say $1,000, as the printing of the
brief had cost $1,000?
Witness said he didn't understand it
that way. Various matters were talked
about in reference to the tax bill, and,
after discussing The deSirabilitv of with
holding the testimony until both sides
are heard, the committee took a recess
until 7:30 o'clock p. m.
The evening session was a short one
aud was entirely devoid of interest.
Mr.. Farr was called To the witness chair
and was asked whether he had ever had
any conversation with MIR. Markham in
regard to the passage of the bill, or
whether he had ever said anything
about money being paid for the preven-
ton of the passage OF the bill. To both
of these questions he replied mo- very
distinctly. He was then permitted to
go, and, as there were no other wit
nesses present whose testimony would
come in apropos, an adjournment was
taken until IL o'clock this morning.
MeSsrs. Glass, Jones and Ackley will
be the witnesses this morning, and in
the afternoon Mr.. Farr will be again
called to the stand. 1t is expected that
there will be a number of other wit
nesseS called before the conclusion of
the hearing. Mr.. Markham declared
his intention last evening of calling a
number of witnesses to explain certain