The record-union., 1893-07-12
Special to the REcoRD-UNIoN.

Special to the REcoRD-UNIoN.
LONDON. July 1.-THE Commons. in
committee, continued this evening the
discussion of clause nine of the home
rule bill. This clause concerns the oues-
uon OF Irish representation at West
minister.
Henry Seton Karr, Conservative,
moved that Irish members of the I'm
perlaI Parliament be elected by the con-
stituencies which would elect the Irish
Legislative Council. Under this amend
ment the Irish in the House OF Commons
would number forty-eight, instead Of
eighty, as proposed by the bill.
John Morley, Chief Secretary for Ire
land, replied that the proposal was based
on no principle of government. The
result Morley said, was a desire to cur
tail Irish representation in the House,
and could not be accepted by the Govern
ment
Sir Richard Temple, Conservative for
the Kingston division OF Surrey, said
even forty-eight Irish members would be
too many.
William Brodrick, Conservative, for
the Guildtord division of Surrey, agreed
with Sir Richard. 1.-THE Irish are both
impecunious and garrulous," he said,
''and therein lay two reasons for reduc-
ing their representation in the House to
the minimum"
Thomas Sexton. anti-Parnellite, for
North Kerry, interrupted Brodrick to
say that such language was grossly inn
pertinent, and ought not TO be tolerated
| in the House.
The Unionists shouted "Withdrawp -
and the Irish cheered.
Lord Randolph Churchill suggested
that Sexton withdraw the words, as
Brodrick's were not intended for him per
sonally.
The Chairman told Sexton that he was
out of order, and must withdraw his ex-
pressions concerning Brodricks speech.
Sexton expressed willingness to obey the
Chairman in case Brodrick first express
regret.
Timothy Healy, anti-Parnellite, for
North Louth, said he regarded Sexton's
attitude as quite justifable To call the
Irish race impecunious and garrulous
was to insult every Irish member who
stood by his countrymen.
! The Irish cheered. the Unionists
shouted protests, and for two or three
minutes the House was in uproar.
Gladstone spoke few words in favor
of the Chairman's decision, but added
that the person striking the first blow
ought to make the first overtures for
reconciliation.
Balfour, leader of the Unionists, said
that, acting under his advice, his hon
| orable friend (Brodrick) refused to apollo
gize.
The Chairman turned appealingly to
Sexton:
Pm willing to do anything consistent
with duty to please the Prime Minister
Sexton said; but considering the grav-
ity of the insult offered my countrymen,
l have decided not to make an apology.
l submit myself to the judgment of the
committee" Loud cheers greeted the
statement
The Chairman hesitated, and finally
| ordered Sexton to withdraw.
Sexton shouted back: ''Such a course
is unprecedented. Why am 1 not named
and my conduct submitted to tho
House?"
Irish shouts, Unionist shouts and cries
VI O4fiuc! 4OliON9u his Cnallenge.
The Chairman pulled himself together
and repeated his order that Sexton with
draw. Sexton again refused.
The Irish cried, Don't withdrawn
The Chairman then explained the
standing order concerning the suspension
Of members disregarding the authority OF
the chair. The last words were almost
taken from his mouth by Timothy
Healy, who exclaimed, This is shame;
it never has been done before"
The uproar then became terrible.
Gladstone appealed to Sexton to obey the
Chairman. Sexton replied, with evident
reluctance, that he would leave his de-
Tense with the Prime Minister. AS he
retired the Irish jumped to the benches.
waved hats and cheered furiousIy. After
Brodrick withdrew his statement that
the Irish were garrulous and impecuni-
GUS, and order was restored, Karr's
amendment, which had been quite lost in
view of the hubbub, was then rejected by
vote of 25l to 2l9. Subsequently, on a
motion to adjourn, Timothy Healy APP
pealed to Speaker Peel against Chairman
Mellor's treatment of Sexton. The
Speaker, however, supported Mellor's de-
cision.
WAR IMMINENT