New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-04-07
RATTLING FOR HOME RULE.
MR. GLADSTONE MOVES THE SECOND READ
ING OF THE BILL.
,,.,n .crn LEADERS, ELOQUENT PLEA FOR THE
CAUSE or IKELANp-RisE AND 'A'sE> or
THE DEMAND fOK HONE fuLE-s'h
MICHAEL nICKs.BEACH MOVES

REJECTION.

rur DEMAND FOR HOME EuLE-S!R
MICHAEL nICKs.BEACH MOVES
REJECTION.
London. April 6..-Mr. Gladstone arose IN inc
Uouee of Commons at :4j p. III to-day 10 move
the second reading of the bill to establish Home
Rule in Ireland. The galleries were full, but the
House itself was not crowded
Mr.. Gladstone said that the Government had
no intention of amending the bill as presented en-
cent in some minor particulars He earnestly
desired 70 bring home to the mind Of the House
the question when this great controversy was to
end Cheers lie did not address the question
10 the Opposition in spirit Of assumed superior
ity but he would rather press it earnestly upon
their hearts and UNDERSTANDINGS as Il matter IN
which 10th sides equally interested FOR
many years the question Of Irish Home Rule had
blocked the WAY OF legislation. The Liberal party
had offered solution, but when they asked their
opponents where all this TO end they rarely
obtained an answer Certainly the Opposition had
not Yet ventuIed TO point out process whereby
the greatest of Irish questions should be decided
apart from the way in which the Home Rule bill
proposed to decide it. Cheers. Mr.. Gladstone
then proceeded with historic development OF The
rise and the causes of the demand for Irish Home
Rule.
The progress Of events in the last century, he
said had proved the fallacy of the argument
offered by the opponents of Home Rule that
time and patience would see Ireland paclhed
without special legislation Never was there
time when the Irish people so near TO ac-
ceptance of the Union during the first twenty
nine years after the act of union had been passed,
and the reason not because they loved H.
but because they were trodden under loot, theE
wished for peace, and they had no genu'"e rep
al Dorli Az
resentatives in the Imperial Fariia'heho US
soon as the voice of Ireland heard in Far
lament the constitutional movement for sell
government began. and it had never ceased. and
would continue until self-govcrnment should be
granted LET the House," Mr.. Gladstone con
+;nued "look at the spectacl" the world offers
in REGARD 70 its unions. In the civilized world
no incorporated union effected and maNltained oE
force has ever prospcred. That is a challenge OF
some boldness Is il too bold :?
Here Sir Michael Hicls-Beach, Conservative
member for West Bristol interrupted Mr. Glad-
stone with the remark: Take the case oil 'hc
United States" 81,
81 said incorporated union,' replied MI ul'',
..on. n 1ih,ro1 and Irish checrs.) "You missed
the essential word Hear! Hear hoii"h'
and Belgium tried incorporated union and after 4
nrecarious existence Of fifteen years divorce was
effected. Austria and Hungary tried incorpora-
+ion. and after years of sad experience they fonho
tho choice lay in giving it up or the Empire
lCboers) Russia incorporated Poland. Take yoar
stand thereon if YOU think fit. Let the Opposi-
t;on mako Il the model OF their operations
Hear. HearO TO all unions but one princ'pie
can be applied, and that is whether they require
permanent maintenance by force. II wren tie
force disappears harmony remains' the union Is
cood II the maintenance OF the union by force,
actual or in reserve, Is necessary. the value OF
the union is questionable.
"IJnons not incorporated but autonomous ha'o
been attended in all cases with success son'e
.me. comnlete and always considerable 1hns
Austria and Hungary under their present ,ni'n'
Norway and Sweden. Denmark and Iceland Russla
sa Iyr,ora are illustrations The most CON-
n,ete success was the German Federation. where
each State had its own powers the union ohN
.soctinp Imperial interests In the United states
eacb State had its own rights, and any one III
America daring to interfere with these rights "oui"
he regarded as a mailman. Inc colonies ha' SUIT.
-o;rts in common with Ireland. The disease of
d;saffeotion once permeated them, but remeoy
was found in self-covernmcnt. lCheers@
In conclusion, Mr. Gladstone referred 10 the re-
tention of Irish members in the Imperial Tafn'
ment During the last sixty years, he SAID tweiNc
instances had occurred Of Cabinets being dispiace
hy a vote Of censrre Among these instances there
tvQG
nurelv British. eight having been Imperial ana
forr Irish questions Therefore, he thought less
Inconvenience ought TO he expected from Irlsi
,.nbers voting on British questions than had
been anticipated
Rerarding the question OF finance, Mr.. Gladstone
admitted that it was easy matter to disentahgie
the finances of countries associated Tor TIE ias'
ninety wears 1t could not be done III any way
free from Inconvenience, but the trouble was mere
dust in the balance compared with the Vi'ai in
portance Of the great purpose oil aiming a' 'no
,eal union of the two countries and the consoilua
ton of the Empire. The bill carefully eiarueu
tho possibility of increasing Imperial eXpcnol'uic
whereof Ireland ought to pay her share III '''e
event of war and other causes. IL the House WAS
not satisfied with the security offered under the
existing financial clauses of the bill, he was ready
to deal freely with the question: and to rccast the
clauses objected TO- Until a recent period the
question between Great Britain and Ireland had
been one between class and Nation. Now 1t was
between Nation and Nation There was no more
melancholy spectacle on earth than the spectacle
Of wrong inflicted by one Nation on ahoiher
On the other hand there was nothing nobier uiah
to see Nation deliberately set upon the rehoVa'
Of injustice and deliberately determined TO breaK
with whatever remained.
The majority of the electors OF Great britain
were convinced that Parliament, once persuaded
to take the fateful step now proposed could never
retrace it without punging the country into the
horrors Of civil war. Cheers
The rejection of the Home Rule bill was moved
by Sir Michael Hicks Beach, president ol tile
Board of Trade in the last Salisbury Cabinet Hc
taunted Mr. Gladstone with having made a long
excursus into Irish history when he was eNpcc'e'
TO answer the multitudinous criticisms o' .hc
bill Since the character of the measure las DE-
come known, the most intense antaso onism "a'
developed against it. In large part oi Neianu
the people irreconcably opposed to an .,e
details as well as to the principle OF ''e
bill The North OF Ireland rang with protests
against the Prime Minister'S proposals; YET MI
Gladstone ignored this remarkable agitation anu
would not even pause in his retrospect to answer
the arguments of the men behind il. The Prime