Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1893-11-14
The Hawaiian Minister Has an In
terview With Secretary Gresham.
NO MORE REPORTS TO Be GIVEN OUT
Until the Correspondence is Sub
mitted to Congress.
tn E H HAWAIIAN LEGATION.

1t appears that the Department Of State
has heard from Minister Willis by tele-
graph from San Francisco for 1t is learned
that dispatches received at the depart
ment yesterday confirm the press reports
of Minister Willis arrival at Honolulu and
other events up to the time Of departure Of
the steamer China. The Hawaiian minister,
Mr. Thurston. called at the State Depart
ment this morning and was privately in
conference with Secretary Gresham until
the hour set for the meeting of the cabinet.
The Secretary still declines to make any
statement touching Hawaiian affairs. and
1t Is believed that II he had any intention
of making public at this time Commissioner
Blounts report or Minister Willis instruc-
tions that idea has been abandoned, and
the next official statement that will be given
to the public from the department will
probably appear in a communicate ton to
Congress Of the entire correspondence re-
lating to Hawaii which has passed since
President Harrison sent the annexation
treaty to the Senate In some quarters
there was a disposition to attach sgnif-
canoe to the fact that Mr.. Thurston was
received by Secretary Gresham today, on the
supposition that the reception was eQuiva-
lent TO an admission that the provisional
government, from which the minister is ac-
credited, is still in existence. 1t is inprob-
able, however, that any real Importance
can be attached to the incident, for 1t may
be assumed that Secretary Gresham would
continue to recognize Minister Thurston
until official advices are received that indi-
cate the overthrow of his government
Possibly Prompted by Foreign Cow
ernments.
Some of the speculative gossips in the de-
partments are now recalling an expression
in the last paragraph of Secretary Gres-
hams published statement to the Presi-
dent, wherein he asks how the United
States can expect other nations to recog-
nize the independence of Hawaii when the
United States fails to do SO. This has
raised the further question as to whether
Ii may not be that the State Department
has been prompted to take such action as
1t has indicated by representations, per-
haps Indirectly made, from other interested
powers that the United States government
had interfered in Hawaiian affairs TO the
extent OF destroying the Independence OF
the little nation.
The cypher experts at the Navy Depart
ment were again at work this morning and
the supposition is that they are putting in
to code for transmission to San Francisco
further instructions to Minister Willis. II
1t Is intended that such Instructions shall
be sent promptly by the next steamer this
is the only manner In which 1t can be ar
ranged.
At the Hawaiian Legation.
| II there ever was a modern instance Of &
sword of Damocles it is to be found today
| at the Hawaiian legation, which Is located
at the Everett, 1870 II street. There they
sit, the officials who represent the perturb-
ed little group of Pacific islands, like Pa
thence on a monument smiling at grief.
They sit In the great pleasant office room
In the II street front of the building and
talk and wait. They seem to be confident
of ultimate success, however, for they feel
that this country will not long stand as a
prop to such a tottering throne as that
which may now be trembling beneath the
great weight Of Liliuokalani They are
optimists, and though determined to fight
for their rights in the present until the
last hope is gone. yet they have faith in the
future.
What Mr.. Hastings Says.
There will be no news from Honolulu"
said MIR. Hastings to Star reporter this
morning, before Saturday. That is the
earliest date on which a steamer can ar
rive from the islands. Until then we must
wait and hope"
Would Like n Cable.
The lack of cable and other means Of
quick transmission of thought between
here and Honolulu is keenly felt just now
by the legation officers, who would like
very much to get the private ear of Presi-
dent Dole for about half an hour. They
could probably give him some very inter
esting and valuable tips. With a knowl-
edge of the prevailing American sentiment
they might stiffen up the presidential
backbone considerably. They might also
suggest a number of plans to him for
thwarting Mr.. Willis in his mission. For
instance, they might give him the pointer
that was contained in a suggestion made
by Mr.. w. III. Stayton, formerly a lieu
tenant of the marine corps. but now in the
practice of law in New York. He is an
adept in international law. especially that
phase that effects naval officers abroad.
and he said
"A naval officer has right to disobey
an order which he knows to be illegal,
but he assumes the responsibility in so re-
fusing. If on his trial the order is shown
to be illegal, he cannot be punished. But
the first instinct of an officer is to obey
| orders and throw the responsibility on his
superior who gave the order In this Ha-
waiian matter, President Dole has simple
way of tying Minister Willis hands If he
is sharp enough. All he has got to do is
10 hand him his passports and to refuse
to have any further dealings with him.
Mr.. Willis becomes Immediately a private
citizen, and cannot legally give any order
to a naval officer. 1t makes no difference
if he has another set of credentials to
Liliuokaani. The provisional government
has received recognition as the de facto
government from foreign nations, and any
act by Mr. Willis as the American minister
to Hawaii after President Dole had sent
him his passports would be illegal. 1t takes
two nations to make a minister Lord
Sackvlle West ceased to be the British
minister when the State Department gave
him notice.
Confidence In President Dole.
But 1t is felt here, at the legation, that
President Dole and his advisers, If given
time for consultation and deliberation, will
have formulated policy that will lack for
shrewdness. Dole is said to be a man of
affairs. acute and clever. and his repre-
sentatives here are confident that ne will
make the best of the situation. The only
danger, they fear, is that Minister Willis
! may have FASTENED his action and prevent
| ed full discussion of the situation among
| the members of the provisional government
Another Conference This Afternoon.
The interview between Minister Thurston
and Secretary Gresham this morning was
interrupted by the necessity for the latter
! to go over to the White House to attenl
the cabinet meeting. He made an appoint
| ment with Mr.. Thurston for 3 o'clock. 1t
was expected that by that hour the Secre-
| tary might be able to give the minister
some facts concerning the status of the
Hawaiian case that We're touched upon dur
| ing the meeting of the cabinet.
John VI. Glover Awarded S27,OOO.
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