The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-06-11

did.
Mr.. Mann: Would you mind producing
your itemized bill of expenses?
DIR. Anderson then produced the bill, and
Mr.. Epps asked IL all the items were
dated.
yes" said DR.. Anderson.
Mr., Epps: Well, I Just wanted to know,
since there seemed 10 be question In
the minds OF some OF the committee as
TO whether or not you paid for that last
supper.
MIR. Vaughan: Did Mr.. Belvin ask you
10 use your influence with the committee
in behalf Of anyone?
DR.. Anderson: No, sir; no one asked
me to use my influence in behalf Of any
one.
Mr.. White Did you hear anything
about a 800 loan while on the trip?
DR.. Anderson: No. sir.
Mr.. Meredith: Were any offers made
you by Mr.. Booz?
DR.. Anderson: Mr. Booz was under the
impression that I did not have enough
money to bear all my expenses, and on
one or two occasions he offered to ad-
vance the money which / refused, as
had enough.
Mr.. Henry L. Carter was then requested
to take the stand, and was asked to tell
what took place on the Friday evening
after the final inspection OF the metal
fixtures.
He stated that he and Mr.. Epps had
a conversation near Seventh and Broad
streets. Mr.. Epps asked him his opinion
between the workmanship OF the two
companies. He CIr. Carter told him
that he was speaking confidentially, and
that If he would keep IT to himself he
would express his opinion. which he did
to the effect that "the Fenton Company
wasn't in it," whereupon Mr.. Epps re-
piled that such was his opinion.
Mr.. Epps: Did 1 ask you to vote for
anybodys work. did you ever hear
any member of the committee say that
he had heard me express my opinion as
to how / expected 10 vote?
Mr. Carter: No. sir.
Mr. Reeve: Did you base your opinion
upon the merits of the workmanship?
Mr. Carter: 1 did; after giving five days
TO the examination Of same.
Mr. Waddey then asked DR.. Anderson
IL It had occurred to him during the trip
North that he OYaddey) had endeavored
to prejudice any member Of the COM
mittee by his liberality?
DIR. Anderson: No, sir; I remarked TO
Mr.. Glenn that I did not like to accept
this kind OF entertainment; that ] did
not wish to feel under obligations to any
one. He replied that II would be all
right in the long run; that first one and
then the other could pay the small bills,
and 1t would be about the same.
Mr. Gugon stated that he could get
some important testimony by the next
meeting from a witness who was out OF
the city, but would be back by Sunday.
Mr. Epps had stated that he wished to
be the last TO testify. He thought II
would be better for Mr.. Epps TO withhold
. hA Inc If
the committee. so as to give him an OPP
portunity to answer any statements that
might be made by the other witnesses.
He also moved that when the committee
adjourned II would do so TO meet again
next Tuesday night.
Mr.. Epps stated that he thought he
had stood this persecution long enough;
that witness after witness had taken the
stand and made statements rejecting on
him, and that he had submitted to II
all. II. however, II was necessary he
was willing to withhold his testimony
until another time.
Mr.. Murphy stated that he saw no
reason why Mr.. Epps testimony should
be Withheld. II anything was said by
other witnesses which required an an
swer from Mr.. Epps. the latter would be
in the city, and could be present TO make
a reply.
Mr.. Guigon said he was sure that Mr.
Epps did not wish TO reflect on the COM
mittee, and did not believe that the
committee was trying TO take any un-
fair advantage of him; but that he
thought 1t would be better to examine
other witnesses at that time.
The witness stand was then occlpied
by Mr.. Epps. who said he confessed he
had acted indiscreetly, but had done moth
ing dlshonorable He wished Mr.. Sam
many to testify as to how the anonymous
note had been received.
Mr. Summary said that young man.
we'll dressed. about twenty-five years or
age, had come 20 the shop and said that
he had note for Mr.. Epps. About five
minutes afterwards Mr.. Epps asked him
II he knew who the young man was He
said that he did not know Mr.. Ep7s
asked the young man who sent the note.
He refused to tell. Mr.. Epps then told
the young man IL he did not tell who
sent the note ne would have him arrested.
He (Sammany) did not see the note until
about five minutes after the bearer had
gone, when Mr.. Epps showed 1t to him
and then told him whom the young man
said had sent II.
Mr.. Mann: Was anyone else present
when Mr.. Epps attempted to scare the
young man?
Mr. Summary: No. sir.
Mr. Epps then asked that in order that
the committee might know something
about MIN he wished Colonel Archer 10
take the stand and testify as to his char
acter. He then retired and Colonei
Archer stated that he had been inti-
mately associated with Mr.. Epps for
twelve years. Mr.. Epps had served in
the family as an apprentice and as fore
man for nearly thirty years, and that
there was no man ever in his employ VINO
was OF stricter truth. honesty and intes-
rity. His confidence In Mr.. Epps was so
great he would have sooner suspected
himself He had never known him 20
depart from the highest planes or honesty
and truth. He had often loaned him
money without taking any receipt. ana
Mr.. Epps had never failed to pay II back
Mr.. Epps. who had retired during Col
onel Archer's statement. returned ana
took the witness stand. Last November.
he said. Mr.. Glenn came TO him and ask
ed him TO go to Mr.. Goddin's ONCE 10
inspect some metal furniture. he did so,
and gave as his opinion that the furniture
which was vanished black was the best.
He afterwards met Mr.. Glenn, who SAID
he was glad that he had so expressed HIM
self. In December Messrs Glenn ana
Booz requested a committee from the
Grounds and Buildings Committee to go
North and inspect some furniture. lie
stated that II he was put on the COM
mittee the city would have to bear the
expenses. Soon afterwards he asked Mr..
Curtis, the chairman Of the committee.
~ the city would advance the money for
49, x-sr Ne C,,ytts replied that Il would