New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-02-18
THE HOME RULE BILL READ.
PRESENTED BY MR. GLADSTONE AMID
TREMENDOUS CHEERING
THE MEASURE sHAML LY CRITICISED DY NI.
CHAMBERLAIN AND Mr.. COsCHEN-

MIR. MOELEY'S REPLY.

ard tic second reading was fixed Cor Mar h -
| The llouS" WAS full but not crowded.
In rcSuning debate on the bill Joseph Cham
beIlain declare, that the measure sowcd the
seeds of future dscortcn aud paved the
way to demands that would be certain to be
urged when Engand's emergency became Ire
lands opportunity. II was recommended as Il
final settlement, yet it deprived the rish Plrla-
mcnt of all control Of trade and commerce. The
speaker reminded the House that Mr.. Parncl!
insisted that no linaty was possible until Ire
land had the power to impose rrtaatoly duties.
Instead OF guaranteeing imperial un!ty tie bill
involved risk to the existence OF III" United kIAg
dom He hesita;cl to think Of the countIy's
position in time of
"Suppo>ing," Mr.. Chamberlain asked. that
Great Britain should become involved in war with
the United Statcs-which Heaven foricad for IT
would h.. matriclc-Iroland mght owc gratitude
t. England. but did She not owc giatitud" To tie
United States" inioni>t cheers suppose Great
Britain became involved III war with France or
Russia? With eighty Irish members coming 20
the Imperial Parliament to embarrass and hamper
the Government in times of difficulty, Ireland
would get what she demanded OF seriously cripple
Great Britain's struggle for existence
Continuing MIR Chamberlain declared that the
measure lett the Imperial Parliament with not
shadow of gcnuin' supremacy. SUpposlns tn plan
of campaign should he Icstartcd, what COLL the
Impcrial Parliament do? The lish Executive
must refuse to enforce eyctlonS, and must With
draw police protection from landlords. III" I'M
pcrial Parliament could not interfere III" sH-
prcmacy of the Imperial Parliament miLht b'
rcvcrcntially noticed in the preamble Of I'll" hill'
but il was the reverence shown in committing 4
co,psr t. the earth, for the prlnclp" Of supremacy
WIS practically dead Their" was tie Crown veto
If tbn veto were used, and the lri,h Parliament
should refuse 10 carry on tie "oNernm'h'' '"c
result would bc a deadlock, ending In breaking
tho veto 10 pieces Mr. Chamberlain next re-
fcrrcd to the financial proposals. which, he s'nd'
were extremely complicated, ana "ou" 'heN'"'N
lead 10 mrcIal intcrfcleL"o.
In regard TO the retention Of Irish m'm'"r7
IN ,hc Impcrial Parliament, there were only Two
practical ways for this schcm" to b" c"rle' OUT
ri,st thc Irish Government and Legislature must
he wholly subordinate to the Imperial P"r4in'ch''
like the London County Council. VlhH ol
Hear, bcar,~l The supremacy of IL" Imp 'rlai
Parliament and the unity OF the cmpli" NoU."
NOT be attacked Secondly. if Ireland Nhouin 2'l
-, pa,liamcnt, then scotland, Wales and hnEi'h"
ouch, each = have parliament, with hith
uousc for the United Kingdom. That would DE
large order Tnionst cheers.
In conclusion Alr. Chamberlain protes'ci aenihN'
a..
os if they were only hoastcrs and hars ln'i'
do,as.ati,n of IN. bill Was thorough Pasll'-
MN, ho said was bound TO protect loyaIIs'@
a"ainst injury, for which the bill PIoVh'cd Il"
S'itS TSSnrd Rlakc. Nationalist member for south
| Icncford said that the bill amply 'fulri 'n'
supremacy of the Imperial Parliament ne @D 9r
icctcd 10 the suspension OF IN" lallI u'~,Ion -.
| ;br.c vrar- The Irish Parliament, u" ,all "u@"i
| to be empowered TO deal at once WIFI '"c '"''"
problem. , ,r poIruin
| Advanced Liberal but opposed to HON" l'u'r'
ranronched Mr. Gladstone with Strr'@ lh''i-
national strife through dclusvc attempts 10 ~
Ireland sepsrar G clcr Leon nrodnrrd t last
| ,,,o harmony would hay" been III a lair way ="
~ established AID there would b" H''iIf e cur
antcc of jnstic" 70 all CLASSES AZ ,%n Dublin
| thc Imcarial Parliament than uhuci the H"''"'
d" M ,'' 5oschcn remarked upon the rGlnca &c ,t %,
,L P,dic,ls IA ,o;n in the debate. II" saH l'"'
r,. naturol. as the whole field OF discussion wa
Lorcrrombrd with pitfalls for unwary 'upPo,,'n,
of tho Government Mr. "ladS'"n' I,,e,J
we're sketchv and ehadOWy. MT. ''"Hcnch ,,r;,i
| courr. mainly on III" sninr ll''S. aS piI
.a;crs the tnoniN SIDE lrel. IT, w. H|, ~,,un
! .S Sic was would hay" 10 "rD'h' Io' ~ '.,
mainly unon the rcoJ-cs drink. Thcr" was no pI''
dent in history for rac'|@ th "inl. cc ,"nn.t
| nxpectn, Fnqlishmen to forelV" ana l"i@'' Wv
language Of Irish agitatorS durnt me III ~
wears What was 10 become :" in' ,,H,iW pr
sha
| liamcnt was 10 retain authority over INV '"'
| question? - , II, ,I,,lo,...
words that no power on Garth could trcV"n' I ,mr
| T;1, ,ncuIcrs from still l"ing ~" arhli"r- an"
masters Of English lcgi.lation This bill nITr1 ;'
n. w""' rcIhnns rot If third one shonld come II
| oucht 10 6o bound with th" other t"n az" ~,
| hollnd Failures 10 Solv" an lnsolnhlc Ii"p,'n
| Il NnrIcr Chief Secretary for Ireland. re-
~ ' h;,H,' a. Mr. Go~chcu'S objection and thc'i
dr,"rod Idn :" Mr. Cham,( rlains s"ccch Mr 'hahi,
hcrain. IL" esi was % r. 'aT% olT d, dommant p1rtv in
u' IImJ lie reminded the right honornhl" mom-
hrr for birmingham. who had a's"r'"l ,ni1 ',,r
nrn,,nh,o Of the bill declaring the Snnroln.N W
rrr''I, I,nnor,I Parliament was ot no impcrnnc"'
~" me, i,,I n.s an authority than Sir Edward C"Er.
~ ~" .hom rrohablv III" RIGHT hornrahlr m'm.rr
M Mpl ,.nr hoard daughter had affirmed thHt 'h
han II Ill., ns tho kew 10 tho hill. Thcrr We no
rclih,,d said Mr. Morley that Aichh1shnn mai1' nf
woull be able 70 pr"T"''d pr"T1o did , NOT rcgiId tl,c
| 'a'ho.r &c Ir;sL members at Westminster ~
socomdaTv matter but l." did rcard II ~ ;,'oo1 tt
70 tci, paramount ohl"TTrb Tbe late Gov"rn,ncnt lal
the n, Gl Iocil dovcrnmoot TO Ircland bnf tr Wr
hm had hccn laughed ont OF u" ,d,'~ not rn
Chamh",Iairr ,r MNrincine Mf Of ;Iomc Rul". hnt bad
rudia,r" "o,;.;ci. .nd the method If IN" "oN'in-
mont failed would tho h"nora"" gem ''' -
po,r an@,rr orcy dr"iined TO admit that Ireland WA
rrMScnocilahIc Mr there risk hrt no. e
, lie holicvel il was possin'r 10 an1 IN
en-, onIS ;r;. hc,ro.n a.qand and Ireland, ah, LII, ~
,Es shiI Ipf EcTrf he once moe pleaded for the DILL
IH% ron thr movirc cf the hr, rcadmI nnd crir. M.
Gladstone stated nat he was r'1ny hiS dc""ratan %T
Of assent and dissent ,sd sr"'%h ,he M Esr While the
Mr etals ls"''R adcnis and Irish members mad" ol
s.cnc Of will cnth"saS;m Am w. ',G Gl,T.tonc al.
,ancod T nm We floor of the House and preSe'"'
| the bill
MIR MORLEY AND IRISH EJEcTMENr'
| -, IN the IIonsc Of Commons TO day