St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1893-03-15
Many Designs Submitted to
the Commercial Club
Committee.
Variety Of Views as to
Whether 1t Should Men,
ton the Club.
Manufacturers Want Some
thing Both Local and
Distinctive.
The Commercial Club at Last
Getting Down to Real
Business.

The Commercial club had an animated
discussion at its monthly meeting last
night over the adoption of trade mark.
The committee had been authorized to
advertise for designs and pay $25 for
the one to be selected. The report Of
this committee was to the effect that
out of nearly a hundred designs sub
mitted they recommended the adOp-
ton of the one drawn by Will
lam r. Pike. This design is cir
cular, with wreath surrounded
by a plain border inelosing the
inscription, Patronize Minnesota
Industries, Insuring Minnesota Sue
cess" A bar across the center has on
it the words Comm ercial Club-St.
Paul" The club then discussed the
merits of the design selected, and a
number of earnest speeches were made
pro and con. A number favored the de-
sign selected but wanted the words
Commercial Club" stricken off. Others
thought that it was not distinctive
enough as to being st. Paul
mark. Others took very strong
grounds against making st. Paul
the prominent features0f,the desigu;.o
the latter view were the members of the
committee Mr.. Whitcomb spoke as
manufacturer, and said that design
should be used that would not handicap
manufacturers in competing in other
cities. He believed that many of the
designs submitted gave too much prom
inence to the st. Paul idea. and others
were Ineffective because they referred
to the city as being the head OF naviga-'
ton or the center of the universe.
John f. Brodericll favored the design
selected because it did not bring out the
patron saint after whom the city was
named so much as many others 90.
Charles II. WaterOuS said thar his
firm has been working for over year
to design a trade mark and found it
difficult. He had some objections to.
the design selected as we'll as TO all
others submitted. MIR. Vanish. Mn
Chittendeu and others discussed the
model. Several speakers wanted trade
mark that brings st. Paul out more
strongly. te
a Ref, manufactured of North st.
Paul, and who suggested that trade
mark be chosen. said that North ST.
Paul is a stepehild, as we'll as a feeder
for St Paul. and it shows its fidelity to
its step parent by bringing the patrons
age of the faculties of several hundred
wOrkingmen of the city. He believes
the design selected good one. 8.
William A. Hazel, the designer for
stained glass company. spoke on the
subject in manner that brought out
great applause. He said the design SCI
lected is similar TO number of others
in use and is not distinctive and strik-
ing enough. sr 5d
After long discussion it was decided
to refer the matter back to the commit
tee, who, in connection with commit
tee of five manufacturers, will consider
the matter further before adopting the
design selected.
A number of votes were taken, which
revealed the presence of thirty-three
manufacturers in the audience. or this
number seventeen favored the selection
of design in which st. Paul is tire con-
trolling idea. Only eight of them ia
VOred the design selected, fourteen ia
vored design which shall contain the
name of the Commercial club. and
eight favored the use of the words "St.
Paul manufacture"
Early i'll the evening the club listened
to very entertaining address by d. Il.
Noyes on the past and present of st.
Paul. Mr.. NOyeS spoke of the Difficult
ties encountered by the jobbers of the
city many years ago. when they were
struggling for supremacy i'll the North
west. He said that a man may
make a success of business by ten
years close application to business,
and then lose it by inatten-
ton to the needs of the city or
no. noticing the conditions which may
confront city. In comparing the older
times with the present, he stated that it
was struggle to establish trade then,
while today the city is the most stable
on the globe in which to do business.
He declared that the business men of
the city would be astonished if they
could see the magnitude of the manu-
featuring done in the city. Continuing
the speaker sand:
I'VE have made some mistakes which
we should avoid in future. Many of our
men who ought TO be doing business OH
a level with the sidewalk are doing that
business in the upper stories of high
buildings. If we would restrict the
height of our buildings we would be I'M
pressed with the business Icing done.
If | had TO begin my life and business
career over again / would choose st.
Paul to begin in. feeling sure that what
ever of success l may have had has been
the result of having my efforts sup
plemented by this city,"
A. S. Tallmadge called attention to
petition of the Summit Avenue Boule-
ward association. which has been very
generally signed by business men, ask
ing the Chicago, Milwaukee & st. Paul
Railway company TO erect a new bridge
over its tracks at the crossing of Sum
nit avenue boulevard. the bridge to he
an open iron one at least 100 feet wide,
and of attractive design. There are at
tached TO the petition the names of the
business men, the officers of the job
bers' union, the business mems union,
the chamber OF commerce and the mem
bers of these organizations generally.
The Commercial club authorized its pres
ident and secretary TO sign the petition.
A communication was received from
J. Fletcher Williams, secretary of the
historical society, calling attention to
the fact that his society has laid the
cornerstone of lots owned 10y it for a
library building. and is asking the legiS7
Iature to make an App opriation for
erecting such building, and asking the
Commercial club to lend its aid in view
of the fact that it tavOrs the erection of
a public library building. The commu-
nication was referred to the legislative
committee with instruction to give the
historical society such aid as may be
given before the legislature. 81
A communication was read from Mr..
Chanter as secretary of the ice carnival
committee. stating that the committee
is pushing plans for all ice carnival
next year.
E. J. Hodgson called attention to the
fact that the real estate exchange is de-
sirous Of having a manufacturers eX-
position either temporarily or perma-
nently in the city. A number of manu-
facturerS present favored the idea of
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