New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-12-12

city. when did you see Meyer? AIN April. 1872
| TENDER &C. in Toledo
| Q.,When next! A.-On December T. at South
| Up to that time had you had any communl-
cation with any policemen or detectives about
o.-when was your first communication with or
/ The Chief OF the Toledo Police came to me
about t. He wrote me some letters: ,,.,,. ,.o,, ,
Ayes
Mr. Brooke demanded the production OF tho letter
| and read 1t. 1t dated on July IS. and post
| marked that day at p. m. 1t was addressed to
| Charles Muller at No 324 Twenty-fourth-st.. Chi
! cago and was an offer to Muller OF $50 to Identify
| a horse and buggy said be in the possession OF
| one DR.. Meyer.
Q.-At that time were you on friendly terms with
Q-You were enemies. weren't you? A.Not ex-
| actly enemies. but had quarrelled.
because you had quarreiied with him? A-Yes.
Q.-Did you know where he was? A-Not then
July 49, the day got the letter from the Chief OF
the Toledo police. got another letter from FREQ ei
Meyer was there and asking me to come to him.
3-He wanted do help pa didn't L, rd hsG Ayes
Q-And you mad plenty OF money? A.-Not plenty.
but had more than he had ,.,,
s xai' s % sd s hs
and they sent Mr.. Julien to get him.
"
Q-Meyer was arrested that same day. wasn't he?
Q..--And you got your $500 that day. didn't you?
Q;Iwho paid Il to you-Julien7 A.-No the Chief
with the Mutual Life Insurance COMPANY
Q.-Now. don't you know that the Mutual Life
sp5eS f~BB srsl ps y the @ @h which you
Q:-what became of the horse and buggy? A.
That's what don't know.
Odd you get the $50 for them? A-No
Q.-sure? Ayes. that's what do know.
AFRAID THEY WOULD GET KETCHED-
Mr.. Brooke now carried Muller over the crcum-
stances occurring subsequently to his release from
Joliet Prison and leading up to his start with
Brandt for New-York on February "a, 1892. In pur-
suance OF the scheme TO swindle the insurance
panies. Muller said that when Meyer suggested the
scheme and for time thereafter he opposed II.
"Why?" asked Mr.. Brooke. Muller said there
two reasons
o.-What was the first? Alt cost money and
Ooh! You objected because it was expensive.
we'd get ketched.
"Um" said Mr.. Brooke. That 'um' meant a good
DEAL 1t brought out Muller's depravity. his utter
inability 10 perceive moral consideration. much
more effectively than words could have done. and
the first. second and third Jurors smiled. Mr..
Brooke Observed the smile and with great sagacity.
instead OF smiling back assumed look most grave.
1t not look of reproach to the jurors. but OF
intense sadness at this shocking revelation Of the
depths of shame into which II Is possible for human
nature to sink But Mullers answers were really
not so bad they were simply dull. Bad of course
he is. but In an even greater degree he Is mper
vious to moral suggestion. This imparts to his man.
ner as he tells his story not much OF the char
acter of sneak Of without any other
than notions of right and wrong. and 1t does
not in great degree suggest that he is lying. for
liar would have had enough to add the mo-
Muller said that he had three interviews with
Meyer subsequent to his release from Joliet and
before he came to New-York He went these
interviews repeating his story told on the d.
rect examination faithfully At interview
Brandt told him that he was going into the insur-
scheme. and was going TO have policies taken
out on his (Brandt's) life In the name OF Baum In
four companies. The real Baum. II meanwhile APP
peared. had been arrested In Cincinnati and had
later gone to Mexico, where presumably he then
was. The conversation In which Brandt said he
was going to take out the policies was on February
9 1892 and Muller saw Brandt next on February
a. at the Lake Shore station. whittier they had
for New-York. Meyer and his wife were there.
Muller asked Brandt II he knew what was going
to be done In New-York and Brandt said yes Never
had previously given the witness some anthony
in a blue paper and some morphine In a VIAL and
told him TO sprinkle the anthony on Brandts food
SO az 10 make Brandt sick Muller asked IL Brandt
understood that he to be made sick In this
way and Meyer replied. Yes; but II he objects YOU
nut II on nli the same on the sly" They reached
New-York on February D at l0:l5 O. clock Mt night
They went to the Cosmopolitan Hotel.
o-What was the color OF the substance In the
blue paper package? Alt was white.