The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1893-06-25
Threaten to Go Over to the Opposition Unless
the Financial Clauses of the Measure
Are Changed to Meet Their Views.
No Hope of the Committee Sending the
Bill to the House Before Christmas.
Appeal by Parnellites to Irish Americans
Britain's Naval Disaster-Yice Admiral Try
ON Alive When Taken from the Water.
BLOCKING HOME RULE.
Irishmen Rejsct the Amended Financial
Clauses of the Measure.

home rule for Ireland are darkening. Al
most every hour since Mr. Gladstone
announced his new financial scheme has
brought disheartening new VS. of wavering in
governments ranks. of mutinous threats or
defiance. of desertion at CRITICAL moments
The promise of the situation to-day Is that
the home-rule bill will hardly leave the
committee before next Christmas. and that
it will come book to the House of Commons
a man gled and worthless document whic b
neither the government nor opposition will
care to acknowledge as its own.
The new financial clauses of the home
rule bill, which were presented by Mr..
Gladstone to the House of Commons on
Thursday. have not been accepted by any
party as either clear or adequate. Tho
exact object of the plan now proposed as q
substitute for the old one is enveloped In O
mystery. which even Mr.. Gladstone could
not enlighten. The Liberals and anti
Parnellites, although less open in their
criticisms than the Parnellites. say that
the new clauses are far from satisfactory.
though not so bad as to Justify the wreck
ing of the bill. The Unionists express con-
fdence that the last proposals will be found
to be fully as lnexpedient as the first ones,
and are preparing pages OF amendments
calculated to illustrate the correctness of
this opinion.
Joseph chamberlain, formerly Mr.. Glad
stones parliamentary lieutenant and now.
as leader of the Liberal Unionists, his most
aggressive foe. gave. In an interview to-
day. his reasons for opposing all the imam
cIal plans of the government lie SAID:
There are now virtually three distinct
financial schemes before Parliament-the
new scheme presented on Thursday the
further scheme which must follow it, and
the old scheme incorporated In the orig
inal bills The scheme presented on Thurs
day is. as might be expected. a new
concession to Ireland. Ii carried into
effect il will cost Great Brit;
bill contem plated. 1t rests on even as rot
ten q basis as the first plan, which was
drawn in accordance with q miscalcuia-
ton OF revenues by treasury official.
Mr.. Gladstone tirst proposed that 1relaDd's
contribution to the imperial exohequer
should be II, ,7S0, 600. HeDow proposes that
the contribution shall be Il. .450. 600. The
difference would be even greater than the
figures given. and must come out of the
pockets of the British taxpayers. The
Unlonists will regard ii as their duty to
enlighten the English public as to the ex-
tent to which the alterations will affect
them"
CHANGES PROPOSED BY IRIsHMEN.
The anti Parnelhtes. or McCartbyites.
held q meeting last evening TO express
their dlscOntent with MIR. Gladstone's pro-
posals After q rather heated discussion
tho members decided TO confne their i'm
| mediate demands for amendments to the
| stipulation as to the length of period which
the provisional arrangement shall extend.
Mr.. Gladstone proposed term of six ears.
| The McCarthyltes wished the financial
arrangement to be made at the end OF the
third year.
The Psrnellites, headed by John and
William Redmond. said that the revised
financial clauses utterly impossible.
| and must be thoroughly Overhauled before
| they can be acc spted by the Irish mem bers.
John Redmond, the leader of the parlla-
mentary group. has already given notice of
| SIX amendments. among them one to en-
power the Irish ParlIament to collect Gus
! toms due. as was proposed in the home
| rule bill of 1886. Mir. Redmond says that.
| if there must be a provisional period for
| the regulation of IrelaDd's financial rela-
| tiOns TO England-a condition W. hich be re-
, CARDS with distrust-that period ought to
| be utilized for ascertalning aud defining
the exact amonn. of the contribution
to be paid by Ireland TO the imperial ex-
| cheguer. He will move. therefore. that q
| roy al commission be appointed todetermine
| the financial relations of Ireland to the
rest of the United Kingdom. He does not
| new proposals. The corrected balance
| sheets, he says, still contain grave errors,
| SO that although Mr.. Gladstone figured
| out nominal surplus of f5100C0 for Ire
| land, there would be- In fact. a deficit In
| the treasury at the very beginning of home
rnle. ireland will not be able to meet
| this debit Mr.. Redmond said Yesterday,
unless the Irish government be allowed
| to deal In it's own way In the collection of
custom taxes"
Mr.. Morley, Chief Secretary for Ireland
| Is known TO agree with dr. Gladstone that
amendments which will be proposed by
| Mr. Redmond cannot be accepted by the
government. The McCarthyite arrange
ments for the shortening OF the provisional
| time is regarded with less aversion. The
| McCarthyites admit reluctantly that in
| view of the governments resistance they
| may be driven to make common cause with
| the Parnellites. The prospect. therefore.
| Is that unless Mr. Gladstone and Mr. Nor
ley yield, united Irish party will defeat
the new financial scheme In view of
these difficulties Mr.. Gladstone has
leaders of both Irish parties
and TO make final effort to avoid driving
the Irish members into temporary alliance
| with the opposition. Meantime Clause A
| will be passed and the House, In commit
| tee, will proceed TO consideration of Clause
| 5. The latter clause, which concerns the
constitution of the Irish executive. cannot
| be got ont of the way in less than six
| weeks. Clauses d. 2 and 8 contain q num-
ber of amendments. Clause 9. however.
| which concerns the retention or Irish MEN,
bers at W Nestmlnster. Will undou btedlY be
| the subject of more wearisome and futile
| debates and divisions such as &C.
cOmpanied the consideration of Clauses
| and 2 Against this clause
the opposition will exhaust ell it's
| familiar methods OF obstruction. The
prospect has appalled, the government. Mr..
| Gladstone and Mt. Morley are anxious 20
| drop the clause and actually abandon the
| main portion of the bill that Ireland be
| fully represented in the Imperial Parlia.
| ment. The Unionist leaders declare, how
/ ever. hat they will not allow the with
| drawal clause until after full discussion
| Considering the long stretch of amend
ments already scheduled for this discus
sion and the Unionist idea of fullness
nobody would venture to predict TO what
excessive lengths the debate will be, car
ried. For sheer exhaustion of patience and
! energy. il Is likely TO surpass any thing that
| Parliament has before experienced.
| The government had hoped that the
Unionists would begin by this time TO show
| signs of weariness. and had expected that
the discontent of the young Tory bloods.
| who, by their lrregularity of attendance
| before the Whitsuntide recess made Mr..
| Bslfour SO mnch trouble, would temper the
oDstinacy of the Obstructionists.
/ Since Mr.. Cbamberlain's recommenda-
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