Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1893-12-11
Prof. SanboFn Makes a Slrone, Earnest
Plea
ron SEPARATE MAINTENANCE
or the Agricultural College and the
University Of Uiah.-ihe TX.
pcricncc Of Other States.
LOGAN, Utah,
December Let. 1923

Since II becams apparent that the
Agricultural College q Utah was TO
become one OF the great iusiliu.
dams Of learning OF the arid re-
clon, jisi be'ore or during SOS.
.i,ue Of tho Legislature members OF
the faculty Of tho University OF Utah
have called In question this prOptIcty
II tho independent existence OF this
College. Following In the f'otstops Of
his colleagues President kingsbury
publlcly raiies the same question and
ON tho plea OF economy. rnis special
interest on the part Of tho faculty Of
the University In the economical al.
intimidation Of the affair. OF the state
ia very Commensurate. The Taxpayers
can but regret that This discovery Of
An opportunity TO serve the state was
not made before the establishment OF
this COLLEGE, Tor already plant Of the
value Of 100000, or more, and In the
four years OF its history tbs value o; the
work Of this Institution that viii be
loat by removal Is superior 10 the
financial cost involved.
Among other results OF separate au'
,onomy Dr. K.ug.bary nuIs that the
rivalry that ensurs involves a financial
waste. A healthful rivalry Is usually
REGARDED ~ an element OF safety aud
economy. aud venture 10 say that
any student OF the catalogues
and OF tho history OF the
University " Utah will fnd
tpat its growth aud the general char
ar,er Of IT, work nave teen btOaiened,
in a degree unknown In its nist0ty,
since tho Appearance To the iucatiUnal
syalem Of tue Territory u the Agti.
cultural College OF Titan. n, however,
the Point had been made that Jealousy
aulanisgonism follow the prcscncH ~
two Institutions Of learning ~ the
same state, think chat Illustrations oi
tue fac. could be found without sseG-
ing Tar Tor them. The stat" has the
remedy Tor such condition In It's own
hands.
The discussion Of the union Of the
two institutions now going on Ia the
press Of the Territory i1 'Glgy set forth
~ tho article of Prcsiicn, kingshury,
and / shall, therefore, In Jnis article
review the position taken by him with
Wow 10 answering those who take
the position that the Agricultural
College should be- united with the
University Of Utah.
DR.. Eingshuty uses the following
language; "To have mining, tcleucc,
classics aud literature provided for In
"a. D.. q
engineering done Ia the Agricultural
College Rs a separate college from the
Univetslty, n is absolutely necessary
% duplicate at least nine-tenths Of the
work aud 10 20 TO nearly double the
expense necessary 10 accomplish the
same ends In view Ia an institution re-
sulilng nom the union OF the College
aud University"
II the writer desires 10 be
taken seriously he has allowed
his zeal 10 Outrun his judgment Ia the
matter. 10 Is hard 10 suppose an eiu'
Gator could be thus careless In the use
u language. A ruview " the cata-
loguo OF the Agricultural College, Of
the faculty engaged and Of the students
taught In this Institution during the
psat college year, will snow beyond a
question that no has multiplied several
tunes the actual work necessary 10
duplicate. This iallAcy has run
through the writings OF every One who
has spoken ON this question iavOrlug
the union OF the two institutions.
That the error may ha understood by
the public will state that In standard
colleges twenty 10 thirty students per
class Is regarded as full work Tor nn
instructor, that for the paid instructors
Of this institution Tor the year 1923
the clauses averaged about Unity per
teacher. In other words tho faculty
was doing foil work, or lie equivalent,
aud all the expense thereof would Rave
" be transferred to tho united iustitu-
ton had such union occurred. But In
saying that they averaged thirty Per
instructor Ia ~ undorstate, as the pub
llc viii understand II, the real number
carried per teacher. The technical
Glasses In agriculture, engineering and
domestic arts i0g the sophomore and Tor
some other years were nsces,ntiiy
small. 10 illustrate, IN tho cooking
department eight ~ ton students ~
regarded as the maximum number,
while the cooking Practice is talk
ing place, that can bn handled by
ono teach or. This being me third
year In the life OF tho Agricultural
Collegr,and starting thu iirsi yehr with
smali number, it follows that the
junior anu senior classes are Hmalii
that IL tho junior and senior clasH rsi
where most OF the technical Work Is
concentrated, the teachers OF meChRn.
ical aud Of civil engineering, Of do
'neblic arts, aud also OF agriculture, had
small GLASSES.
IL this Institution had been united
with the University the classes IN az
r.tultute, mechanical anu " civil
engineering and domestic arts would
nave remained exactly the same, aud
would have inquired ideutically the
same number OF tenchere, NJ the Unit
verslty does not instruct IN either one
ui these great departments. In the
siudies that run the same M those Of
the Unlvtfaity the classes were above
the number that should be Taught by
one teacher. For instance, we have
clauses In Mathematics rhetoric, MGR
AZURE, algebra, ffee-hand drawing elO'
cation, history, etc., that may be the
Hame NJ those in the University, and
yet the number that took these studies
were 90 great that they had 10 be- put
10 two divisions, and even then the
divisions had over atty per class. To
hgvo added these students 10 the INT
gotslty, although Ia the same aludier,
would have made II absolutely neces'
iary 10 add teachers to correspond with
tho number Of students.
One more illustration. Our class
IN chemistry 10 now ~ large mat,
WlllB the DFOfeeaOF has not FHgu.