Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1893-12-08
From the New York Sun. !
The Interview.
Mr.. Cleveland and the President.


little worried this morning. You must take
better care of yourself. l don't know what
the country would do if you should break
down with this Congress on your hands.
C.-I know it, 1t is this deep sense of
indispensability that sometimes almost
gives me a tired feeling. But this Hawaiian
business annoys me. If it wasn't for this
confounded Congress
P.-Oh, well, you don't mind Congress, I
hope? don't.
C.-Yet it is such a nuisance to super
wise it,
P.-I know. Servants are such care.
But you must try and bear it the best you
can.
C.-Why, some of them congressman
actually have the impudence to oppose my
policy.
P.-What are we coming to?
C.-And they have the cheek to call
themselves Democrats, too, the stupid OBJ
stinate scoundrels.
P.-Well, l dunno, ] sometimes think
that you and / are about the only Demo-
Gratis left, old man.
Cleft! How left? Who says we're
left? Oh, see. Yes, but | can't expect
everybody to understand things as well as
| do. It's this perpetual feeling of re-
sponsibility that makes me nervous.
P.-I know just how you feel. Some
times when put out my bedroom candle
at night, think to myself, great Scott,
how dark the world is now.
C.-Yes; I've had the same thought. |
remember just after my great message in
1887 | was putting on my shirt one morn
ing and by thunder, sir, the sun rose as
soon as had buttoned the top button.
P.-Some of the newspapers, heh, heh,
seem to think we sorl o toss our shirts on
this Hawaiian trouble.
c. The newspapers Faugh! Damn
the newspapers. If it wasn't for the news
papers and Congress
P.-We could show 'em policy that
would make their eyes stick out.
C.-Newspapers or no newspapers, Con-
gress or no Congress- when have taken
a line of policy, l won't bulge. am
sticker. know what's right. | know
what's good for the country.
P.-Td like to know who does if you
don't.
C.-What am | here for? I'm no er-
rand boy; I'm the boss. See?
P.-They'll find that what you say goes
before they get through with you.
C.-Thele's one thing you can be great
help to me in. If any of them Democratic
kckers come around asking for an Office
for their constituents, you just keep on
telling 'em fair exchange is no robbery.
Gentlemen, a batch of Mr.. Cleveland's
opinions goes with each office. Take the
lot and we take your votes. Is it a bar
gain?
P.-Beautiful, beautiful. And yet they
say we haven't got any tact. | guess we
can run about as good a diplomacy counter
as any of em.
C.-We DO know a thing or two. We're
no jays if we did come from Buffalo. But
the Hawaiian policy is
P.-Sh-sh. They whisper.
C.-Keeps EN- all agog, you see. Moth
ing like mystery. like to be mysterious.
| enjoy it.
P.-But Congress will be howling for the
papers
C.-Let 'em howl. ] am responsible to
the American people, and the American
people have supreme confidence in the rec
titude of my intentions and in the integrity
of my ratiocinations.
P.-Dont waste that. Pnt it in the
special message.
Can act of justice to a sister poten-
tate defrauded of her throne by the base
Vaccinations Of
PA lot of darned Americans, sons of
missionaries and such trash.
C.-Hang 'em. l wish there was some
way of getting rid of 'em. I'm afraid we
shan't be able to use the navy at present.
P.-Oh, Congress wont sit forever. And
the constitution
C.-The constitution is an Internal old
nuisance.
Pin with you there. But, then, we
can ignore it,
C.-Yes, but the mere thought of it dis
pleases me.
PITS too bad that we can't throw it
away, the way we did that tariff plank.
C.-I am all the constitution my country
needs My people are perfectly satisfied
with me.
P.-But the way we kicked over that
tariff plank, and let the constitution suffer,
was pretty good.
C.-After you get in at the upper story
| window, what more do you want of the
| ladder?
R.-The people know you.
C.-My people are good after they find
Outt what | want them to do. They are
sometimes little stupid, but in the end
they approve my course and gratefully
recognize thei obligations to my admins
| tTation.
P.-Mr Cleveland, | think you are the
greatest statesman in the world.
C.-Mr President, allow me to cOngrat-
ulate you on giving the country the finest
administration it has ever seen, with the
possible exception of your first. viii you
kindly ring for Thurber? l want to get
him to tell the United Press that | am 60
ing to shave.