The Indianapolis journal., 1893-01-22
CITIZEN GUESDE'S RAWLINGS
Leader of the French Socialists Thinks
Popular Uprising Necessary.
In No other Way. lie Says. Can the Rotten
ness of the Present Government lie
Blotted Out of Sight.
TO PURIFY FRANCE.

Jules Guesde, Leader of the Socialists, Thinks
the People should Rise En- Masse.
Special TO the Indianapolis Journal
LONDON, Jan. q. jules Guesde, the
leader of the French Socialists. to-day al
lowed himself to be interviewed again as
to the ultimate effect of the Panama scan-
dal. He had felt the pulse of the Socialists
throughout the country. Letters from the
provincial leaders. concerning the neces-
sity of q popular uprising to clean out the
rottenness of the government. stated that.
from the Mediterranean to the English
channel the people Of the cities were
ready to strike. Their organization Is
perfect. and they are prepared to act
as one maD," continued Guesde. "Only
here In Paris do the masses hesitate. They
are confused by the contradictory cries OF
the opportunists, the monarchists and the
royalists, who are trying to hide their fears
by causing general confusion and misun-
derstandlng. The moment Paris says
am ready; follow me- che doom of the
present government by bribery is sealed.
We will sweep the country and proclaim a
new order OF justice aud equality, In which
monarchists, Republicans, rOyalists and
Socialists will fare alike. To-day all
things are sold-labor. laborere, women,
honor and life. Only by crushing out the
whole sy stem can we save ourselves from
the recurrence. perhaps in year or two
years, OF this present carnival OF c0rrup-
tion."
The French authorities appear deter
mined to show by their energy IN obtaining
evidence against DR.. Cornelius Herr that
they ore in earnest in their effort to procure
his extradItion. They realize that they arc
under considerable disadvantage in deal
,,<l, nr Hor fho htGYo n{
don. If they had him in Paris he could be
subjected 60 the usual French process of
examination. which includes brow beat
ing, confronting. entrapplng and every.
thing in the way of inquisition, short OF
actual ply sical torture, and 1t sometimes
approaches that very closely In the
persistent subsection of the ac-
cused to long and exhaustinR slttinge.
with view of compelling admission
through sheer WEAKNESS and desire for
rest. As Herr cannot be subjected, in ad-
vance of extradictlon, to this sort OF
racking. the French authorities are doing
the next best thing for their purposes by
putting his friends through the process.
M. Clemenceau was confronted yesterday
with NJ. Stephane, with the view of elliott
ing, if possible, some acknowledgements
that might be sent to London to strength
en- the case against Herr. The examina-
Petit Journal, listeners on the outside
heard enough TO convince them that q very
lively vocal encounter was In prOgress
within. Clemenceau stoutly maintained
his denials of any knowledge OF corrupt or
criminal conduct on the part of Herr or
any body else and used language that. in
any other place. would have been promptly
followed by a challenge to duel. Glenn
enceau stood his ground under all the
pressure, and the examination closed with
out admission of wrong on his part, and, 1t
is understood, without any additional dam
age to Herr.
All parties in France are furious against
Herr. The Panamaites," as they are
called, are enraged against him for the
share he Is alleged to have taken in betray-
ing them to Andrieux and assisting the eX-
prefect In the exposures which have caused
so much scandal, while those who were not
implicated in the scandal would like to see
the chief responsibility for the disgrace
LAID upon q foreigner, and German at
that. One of the charges most generally
uttered against Herr is that he is
Bavarian. 1t happens shat DIR.
Herr was born at Besancon. in France,
and is not the son OF Bavarian, but of Hes
sian parents. He is. therefore, only of Ger
man parentage. This, however, makes no
difference to his assailants. who are per-
sistent In denouncing him as q German.
aud spare no effort to prove that he was the
chief hand In the Panama affair. One of
the newspapers goes so far rs to declare
that foreigners are chiefly responsible for
the Panama scandal. "Paris." it says, has
become the great cosmOpolIs Ii is well to
encourage wealthy foreigners to live here.
They hire rooms and flats at the
highest rents, spend money on
objects of taste and luxury, do
not trouble themselves about decorations
or polltios in connection with bribery. and
are really happy If they can succeed in
clim bing on q mail coach to sit beside
dukes and duchesses. The authorities ap-
preciate that denouncing Herr as German
will have no influence in q British court of
Justice and that they will have to make
out clearly probable case of guilt in order
to obtain his extraditiop. Herz's apollo
gists, of whom there are some, express ad-
miration for his shrewdness IN securing q
chance TO defend himself in England, and
intimate that it might have been better for
some others of the accused If they had
adopted a similar course"
: It is reported tonight that Magistrate
Franaueville will come to England TO ex-
amiue NJ Herr.