The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-12-17
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llr. DpWlnlN. 1 nave iuNeuStR INV WV
ness when ne was talking exactly in the
face OF our resolution. l say l have In
dulged you because have objected, MIR.
Chairman, when the witness undertakes
TO come before this committee, and on
that sacred volume says that he Will
lead US 10 information which will point
out fraud, and then he begins by stating
that the candidate who was elected TO
the United States senate and a subOr-
dinate railroad Official were intimate
friends. / think that Is inference that
NAV have strength I'm the mind OF the
witness, hut I do not think 1t is dignined
and becoming In this committee, nor
would II aid this inquisltorial proceed
ing ( think the proper course Is 10
pursue the line Of this resolution, and
that is 10 conine the questions and
answers TO the improper use OF money
in the election ~ members Of this as
scmbly. or I'm the caucus | think II is
time for this committee TO sit down on
this proceeding. and ask the witness 10
confine himself 90 the line Of this resolu-
ton. / call for a vote Of this committee.
Let Him Go Ahead
Mr.. Mushhach. The witness rs being in
terrupted IN bis testimony. Let him so
ahead. and then find out whether his tos-
timony IS relevant or irrelevant. am'
therefore. IN favor ~ letting The witness
ga ahead. We sit here as Judges and
insist upon letting an intelligent witness
tell his story, and then We can strike out
what we do not think ought 10 be con-
sldered
Mr.. Downing: Ny motion IS 10 contne
the witness directly 10 that resoluuon-to
let him furnish any facts of his own
knowledge or the names Of those VINO can
give us facts.
Mr.. Meredith: have attempted TO make
an intelligent statement. II you mean
that / am simply TO name a man without
telling what he can tell l viii do IT,
Mr.. Tredway: You have no right to say
what ne can tell
MIR. Nicol: II seems 20 me that you
ought 10 indicate what they can testify
unless some member Of the committee
objects so as to show us upon what
polnts these witnesses can testify' Does
anybody object?
Mr.. Downing. Yes. I do. Let the wit
ness speak for himself. | have no doubt
that the gentleman viii have friends upon
this committee; / have no doubt that the
gentleman car put these questions TO inc
witnesses and find these facts out
Mr.. Tredway. | would like TO have the
gentleman put his statement IN writing
Mr.. Meredith: | will not do that. You
can't make me do your writing Tor you
That is beyond your power
Mr.. Nico: Give as any facts within
your own knowledge: next tho names oil
any witnesses who can throw light on
this investigation.
Mr.. Meredith; 7 know nothing Of my
own knowledge. / think You can get IN
| formation from General Lee-l know you
| can. You can get IL from Mr.. Ellyson.
| You ought TO get t from Barbour Thomp-
| son. You ought TO get it from Mr.. Miles
| Martin You ought 10 be able 10 get Il
| from Mr. Isaac Diggs. | don't say that
| each one Of these gentlemen can prove
| fraud. I give you the names Of people
] whose testimony put together link b.
] link. will satisfy this committee.
Mr. Tredway: You think they ought tC
| b. examined
Mr.. Meredith: I think that these gem
| tlemen will give you facts which. Du
| together just as circumsianual evidence
! IS always put together. VIII make chain
| Mr.. NicOl: can you give US some othc
names. Mr. Meredith?
Mr. Meredith: 1 think Mr.. Priddy ough
TO be able. / think Mr.. James Moore, o
the county OF Orange, could give infor
| nation I think It more than possibl
/ that the sheriff OF Amherst county-M'
! Tfedway SAYS tnat his name h Baird
/ could / think that Alr. Thompson, o
| the House from Patrick, could give In
formation. 1 think it probable that Mr
Moon. OF Albemarle, could give II.
| think IL also probable that Mr. Sidnel
| Fpes. Of the Fourth congressional district
! could inform you ] think Mr.. waite
Watson. and / think Mr.. Arvine th
chairman of Lunenburg. could. thini
Mr.. Leggat, Of Princess Anne, could %
| that / understand that Mr.. Rice, o
| Charlotte, could give some Information
| believe. sir. that Mr.. Rufus Ayers coul'
| give some information. I don't know hi
name. hut the gentleman who Is tn
chairman Of Princess Anne can.
Mr.. Nicol: You mean Mr.. Leggatf
Mr. Meredith. Mr. Leggat Is the repre-
| sentative
Here a by-standcr suggested DIT. Nalie
| Cason was the chairman OF Princes
| Anne
Mr. Nicol Anyone else2
afr Meredith: ] don't know his name
but thc chairman of the school commute
| ~ princess Anne county. Ihey are a
can think OF at the present
whg u. Testified.
Mr. Boyldn: VIII you state either Una
you know. or that you nave slIons Eltl E
gon to believe that these parties can siF
| LEGAL testimony ....o
the names n dd not believe so. d
mot want 20 have this thing done for fu'
Mr. Downing: Your expression was,
think. go and 50.
1rr Meredith [ gave you those name
! which ! have been told. some t'id iil
a,d Some / have been told Of Call IN
names over and can tell you which.
! Air Nicol: The first name Is Genera
Lee. -, 80 ,
person.
Mr.. Nicol: Mr. Ellyson.
| Mr.. Meredith: Mr. Eilyson told me
! person ] know that Dy lel'e''
MIR. Nlcol: Isaac Diggs.
Mr.. Meredith: / was told OF mat
Mr.. Nicoi. Henry Wickham'
MIR Meredith: / derived that fro
others.
Mr.. NlcoI James Msre
Mr. Meredith: ] was told about ina
sir / am perfectly willing 90 state thoi
| heard from other people
Air .rfcoi. Thompson, of the House.
Mr. Meredith ! w1s told, sir.
Nfr. Nlcol: hlr. Moon.
MIR Meredith: I was told tnat' siF'
Mr. Nlcol: And EDes. -
Mr. Meredith: was told that SIR.
Mr. Nicol. Leggat Of Princess Anne
MIR Meredith: / was told.
MIR, Nicol r. A. Ayers.
Mr. Meredith. I am not positive "heu
er Mr.. Ayers told me himself or "he'h
| heard IL from anolher PERSON
Mr.. Nicol: Mr.. Walter Casoh.
S1r Meredith: That l heard. sir
Mr. NIeol: The superintendent Of sehoc
OF Princess Anne. 80,
, Mr. Meredith: That I was told
, Nv Nushbach: are you personally
,,,i,sr with the distribution OF mon
4, the Iate Democratic campaign
Mr.. Downing: ! object
This question, BY q vote OF the col
| -s..1. mos rfteI etIr