The morning call., 1893-01-21

definite offers had been made TO him, but
while angry and excited perhaps he had
said something which would justify the
statement that he had.
Recess.
At the afternoon session Thomas of Santa
Clara, another Populist Assemblyman, tes-
titled that his understanding of the caucus
pledge was that no Populist could be
absolved except by the vote OF majority of
the members. He first met Chamberlain in
Sacramento, but he knew nothing of his
proposition to sell four PopulIst votes to
White. Adam Herold, ex-State Treasurer
met him after his arrival and asked him
how he stood on the senatorship. Witness
said he was solid for Gator. Herold said
that in the event OF Whites election he was
going 20 seek the Office of superintendent
of the mint al San Francisco.
''Of course" said Herold, "you will not
want a place, but there will be 800 places
there to be disposed OF. and some CT your
friends might be taken care Of"
Herold did not say that he had any au-
thority from White TO make an offer. Wit
ness said that Cannon told him the night
before the Senatorial election that White
would be elected on the first ballot. o. NJ.
Wellborn of San Jose wrote and told him
the same thing. He did not know how they
knew this. Thomas further states that
Kerns was not present when the Populist
caucus nominated Gator. He signed the
pledge hesitatingly, witness remembered,
but he did not reeollect Of Kerns asking
whether the pledge applied to the senator
ship.
Barlow was the next witness called. lie
said that Thomas V. Gator was his first
choice and after him he was for White.
Barlow also testified that he pleaded with
kerns to at least cast one ballot for Gator.
herns replied to him that it was too late.
He was asked if he knew Chamberlain and
be replied that he had only met him since
he had been in Sacramento. but had no
knowledge of his visit to Gaffey.
Vann drew from the witness that the
reason why he favored having the pledge
drawn up and signed was that be felt that
there was weakness existing in the ranks,
and ii was necessary to brace the men,
bers up and see 10 it that they remained
true to the Peoples party.
kerns was again questioned about his
statements of last evening. and he said
that while he would not call Assemblyman
Adams liar, yet when he said that he
(Kerns) had agreed TO hold out ten DAYS for
Gator he told that which was false. KerDs
alse said that he had atall times considered
Breiz as the leader of the Populist Assem-
blymen.
S. Bachbrach. secretary OF tho Demo-
cratic County Committee of Alameda, was
the next witness He testified that Brett
told him that If Peoples party man could
not be elected to the Senate he would vote
fol a Democrat. when | asked him."
said the witness, what party he had
formerly affiliated with. he replied that he
could not say, as he had not voted before
in more than twenty years.
When the witness left the stand Bretz
was given an opportunity to make out his
case. He opened this rather difficult matter
by saying that Frank Moffitt of Oakland
said to him before he left home. "0ld boy,
go up there and vote with US and the Demo-
Gratis will send you to Congress-" Brett
said he would not have told this had not the
Oakland Democrats violated their promise
10 him not to make public the pledge he had
given them.
Shan than-Did you ever tell Tom Stod-
dard that you would vote for Democrat
for United States Senator provided you
were given the p0stmsstership of Oakland?
BretZ-No, sir, and no one dare testify
that l ever did.
This ended the investigation as far as the
evidence goes.
The committee decided tonight to defer
further action until P. NJ Monday, when
the stenographer will furnish full tran
script of the testimony taken.