Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1893-10-11
DENOUNCED As CHILDISH.
That ME-. Chamberlain II Aiming q
the Prime Ministry With Welsh Aid

That MF. Chamberlain II Aiming at
the Prime Ministry With Welsh Aid.
Mr.. Jos. Chamberlain. MP. made q state
ment yesterday In relation to the cablegram
which credited him with making overtures
to the Welsh members Of parliament for
the defeat Of Gladstone and his own election
as premier. He said:
The story Is absolutely childish. There
Is not the slightest foundation for II. ANY
Englishman would at once see that It was
absurd on the face Of it.
IF really wanted to become prime min
lister in Mr.. Gladstone's place the Welsh
members would have no power to crafty
my ambition.
They are only handful m parliament.
eight and twenty Of them altogether And
II MI Gladstone was turned out Of office
even. II Is the other section of the oppost-
tion. the conservatives. and not the liberal
unlonlsts, who would come into power, and
they would furnish the prime minister
They are largely In the majority in the
unionst party. and ] have not the slightest
doubt that liz the event of Mr.. Gladstone's
defeat and the coming into power Of the
accept Office
Il suppose your party regard the home
lain
Yes. for the present at least. BY the
necessity Of the case it cannot come up be-
fore next year at the earliest. Whenever 1t
comes, 1t is going to meet again the same
fate 1t has already met Whatever Informal
ton you may receive through the very par
tisan correspondence that Is generally sent
from England to the United States. you
may rely upon II that the Gladstonians will
never come back into power again. As soon
as they appeal to the people their fate il
sealed We shall wipe out the Gladston-
ians' majority completely at the next gen
eral election. / cannot say as to what our
majority will be. but 1t will certainly be one
which will make US independent Of the votes
of the Irish members"
take place. Mr.. Chamberlain" The Birm-
ingham unionist representative laughed.
That Is Mr.. Gladstone's secret. 1t Ii well
known that political practice In England de-
mands that the Gladstonians should appeal
to the people on the home rule question. as
it is the most vital question in English poll
tics. and the one on which the most serious
division of opinion exists among the cleo
way which I consider essentially dishonest,
to defeat that issue, and defer an election
In order to secure decision upon some by
question"
In view Of the fact that you have for
merly advocated self-government for Ire
land. Mr.. Chamberlain. do you at present go
as far in opposition to home rule as Lord
Salisbury and his followersr
My action in regard to home rule Is the
same as the action Of Americans toward
southern secession. / will not have any
tnlnS IN cOnnectlOn Win lrelanQ or nome
rule which would lead to separation
You maintain then that q domestic par
lament in Dublin would lead to separa-
tions?"
"A separate parliament" said Mr. Cham
berlain. with emphasis on the word sepa-
rate, that would lead to separation. and
against that am prepared to fight to the
death, and 50 are the conservative party
also.
But any kind of local self government.
which can be shown to be perfectly safe.
and not a mere step toward separation. I
am perfectly ready to support. and 20. too.
are the conservative party"
rs there any probability Of a reconcilia-
ton on the home rule question between
the home rulers and the liberal unionists?"
Not the slightest" said Mr.. Chamberlain.
unless they abandon their present policy.
no desire for reconciliation and do not be-
lieve 1t possible. Since the split the Glad
stonian party has gone from bad to worse.
and their present policy Is such that 1t is
almost impossible to contemplate what the
result of II will be-"
Are the relations between Mr.. Gladstone
and yourself friendly, Mr.. Chamberlain
"Oh, yes; everything is pleasant between
US. Mr.. Gladstone Is very strong, and en-
joys excellent health. He was stronger at
the close Of the season than he was at the
beginning. He Is a wonderful max. and was
never better intellectually"
was no danger that the English people will
abolish the house Of lords because Of their
failure to pass home rule. as they are
within their strict constitutional right in
defeating the measure, until the country
has had chance to pass upon II.