New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-11-14
DIR. HASTINGS GRIEVED.
A PATHETIC APPEAL TO THE PRESBYTERY.


he DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE TO ADVISE UNION
SEMINARY STUDENTS NOT TO ENTER THE
PRESBYTERIAN MINIsTRY-Two HcUss
OF ANIMATED DEBATE.
"Do YOU want us to advice the Presbyterian
students in our seminary seventy-fve Of the 80
men in our classes. not to en,eQthe ministry q
the Presbyte Ian Church? | do not wish TO do So
Shall we say to them Under existing crcum-
stances and In the present crisis. you would bet
ter not enter the ministry OF that Church?
should hate to do So
The speaker was President Thomas g. Hastings.
Of the Union Theological Seminary, and the oc-
casio, the November meeting OF the New-York
Presbytery in the lecture room OF the Fourth Ave
nue. Prcsby Church. 1t was the close Of
An earnest, pathetic speech from one who
born in the Presbyterian Church and has served
in its ministry for well-nigh forty years He had
made an effective plea against the proposed action
Of a committee appointed to consider the duty Of
the Presbytery to theological students applying
TO be taken under its In view Of the recent
action of the General Assembly toward Union
Seminary.
Dr. Charles s. Robinson. for a score Of years
the bosom friend Of DR.. Hastings. and for half
that time having been opposed TO him many
fundamental questions in the Presbytery. read the
that in loyal compliance with the Form OF Gov.
eminent and the instructions Of the hast Assembly
the Presbytery should require students for the
ministry under its care not to pursue their thco-
logical studies In seminaries disappfoved by the
Assembly; that no candidate or probationer can be
considered qualified to present himself before the
Presbytery for licensure who has not fully COM
piled with these terms and Instructions; and that
the stated cl,-k should give a copy OF this action
20 eacn candidate for the ministry now under its
care, may be received under its care, that
they may make arrangements accc rdingly. the re-
port OF the committee was unanimous. Or Robin
the Rev. w d. Buchanan. George =. sterry. OK
The Fourth Avenue Church and Jonn J. McCook Of
the Fifth Avenue Church.
CONSERVATIVES AND Liberals AgGAyED.
To the surprise Of bo'h Conservatives and Lib
erals. Dr. James $ Ramsay, of the Harlem Church.
uttered ringing protest against the resolutions
infringement of Presbyterian liberty, declaring
that students might pursue their studies in any
seminary. Roman Catholic or Cniyersast, for
itself
Very different was the manner OF the honored
presiuent OF the seminary, whose attitude in re-
gard TO DR. Briggs had called forth the appointment
vered in subiued one evspy word was sars
FUZZY weished-scntincnta some OF his opponents
called the speech later IN the discussion He re-
ferred 10 the feeling in this city, very deep and
very VIDE, on the part Of those who felt that the
far, ana he pleaded with mis- brethren to show that
conciatory spirit manifested BY the General As.
Insry and the Assembly might agan be brought
INTO their former relations tie re,errei TO the fact
Union Seminary against whom the General ASSEM-
bly, had taken no action. III you wish 10 lay the
Of u.s. he said piaintiveiy. possibly ! have ioved
the Presbyterian Church too well and served it too
long"
Df. J. II. McINane. OF the Church OF the Gov.
e e and Mon Seminary director asked II the
llCtlSUre. because
from Union Seminary you cannot be received
Cd. Il should like to have these resolutions passed.
tnat the public might know the feeling Of the
concession You snow no maSnanimity. You say
We nave the power"
DR.. SUTTON CALLED To ORDER
DIR. Charles l.. Thompson discussed the ccns,tu.
tional and ecclesiastical requirements presented in
the report and concluded that the decision Of the
committee not well founded. At this point
Or. j. Ford Sutton secured the floor, and began a
long address,. with the declaration that he was a
Presbyterian. mot one that came in after Dr..
and sentimental IDEAS had been advanced by his
brother and then he made the sweeping statement
there was not an approved man connected with
MON seminary; DR.. Dufiie.d called Or. sutton
KIND were not pertinent TO the debate.
II am sorry TO differ fIom YOU slr Moderator"
seminary as corporation. and not dealing with the
mTf The T Rsv 81 Flint ihat bogy ,b 20 VII, eo,
Church spoke enthusiastically in favor OF Union
Seminary. The Rev. Richard b. Harlan spoke
against the resolutions. ard said that the action
proposed was un-Amcr ,an: II was practically say
ing 10 those who would enter the ministry OF the
Presbyterian Church: Leave all liberty of research,
yc who enter here" The report went TO the
December meeting unfinished business.
There had been preliminary wransle the
admission OF Professor A. &. McGiffert. Or. Schafs
successor In Union Seminary and the Rev Jacob
Freshman. OF the Hebrew-Christan Church. who
desired to come in to the Presbytery. Professor
Brown OF Union seminary spoke for Dr. Mco;iffert,
while Or. r. r. Booth pleaded that action should
be delayed until December. and by a vote OF sixty
to ifty-three. this was done Or Robinson ieclar-
ing that three Ccngregatioualists had been adj
mtted while the debate on revision In progress
and four members while the Briggs trial was before
The Rev George s. Webster sior Of the church
of the Covenant Chapel IN East Forty second St,
secured permission To have church organized
on November 20. .iJ members and thirty -ninc COM
tributors Joining In the request. Dr. G.. l.. Spinning
resigned from the Phillips Church. The Jewish
work carried by the Rev. II. r. Faust In the
Allen Street Church was commended to the Board
OF Home Missions.