The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-07-15
ARMY BILLS PROGRESS.
IIS SECOND READING PASSED IN
THE REICHsTAG.
Count Herbert Bismarck Defines His
Position on the Measure-Chancsl-
Tor CaprIvi Replies to Him.

BERLIN, July IA vote was taken
to-day on the amendment to the Army
bill offered yesterday by Prince Henry
Zu Carolath- Schoehaich, providing that
the two years service system be fixed
legally. The amendment was defeated
by a large majority, the vote standing
pa against the motion to 100 in favor OK
It. During the debate on article l OF Sec
ton OF the bill, which was started by
Herr Grober. member Of the Centre
party, Count Herbert Bismarck made a
speech that aroused general interest.
This section related 10 the formation OF
the infantry, cavalry and artillery. When
Count Herbert arose movement denot-
in9 interest was visible throughout the
house. He declared that he was salts
fed with the adaptation Of the Dill. though
he was opposed TO the two years system,
because the Socialists. through the short
term OF service might corrupt the army.
His fears were mostly in respect Of the
Young men from the towns, most Of
whom were Socialists. There would not
be time in two years TO expel the Social
list poison from these recruits. At this
point Count Herbert was interrupted by
cries of "Zur cache" Continuing, Count
Herbert said that the third year OF SER
vice would serve as n ref0rmatory school
This remark caused a great uproar' whlcn
for a time Herr Won Levetzow, the presl-
dent, was unable TO quell.
When orier had been sufficiently re-
stored to allow OF hts voice being hearp'
Herr Won Kardon. a member OF the hel-hs-
parte arose and appealed to the mousse
to sustain the chair against scanda-
Of rules OF DEBATE
Silence was finally obtained, and Count
Herbert proceeded with his speech. lie
evnlained that he voted FOR the bill, but
that the Government had not fXed TWO
wears as the permanent term or service
lie added that Chancellor Won Caprlvl
original bill was better one thah the
Heune compromise measure now before
the house. This statement drew iortA
cheers from the Conservatives.
chancellor Won Caprivi followed Count
Herbert He said that he was sorry TO see
that Count Herbert had based his afgu-
ment on wrong premises The infantry
had not performed three years service
for a long time, and therefore no sucn
great change was proposed by the present
bill The two years system could De
carried through without the dangers
Count Herbert feared. Count Herbert
frequently interrupted tAN '-'N'-Nr''N'
who at last appealed TO Herr Won Levet-
zow. The latter called Count Herbert 10
order.
The Chancellor then proceeded lie
said he doubted that man poisoned with
socialism would reform in the third year
of service. The present custom retained
only the worst soldiers for over two
years. Did Count Herbert, he asked
mean 10 retain only the Socialists for the
third year? Herr Bebel. one Of the lead
ers of the Social Democrats, said, in
replvirg to Count Herbert, the house had
heard the father speaking through his
son. The great father had been unable
to Kill Social Democracy, and still less
was the son able 10 do so. Socialism,
Herr Behel declared. was a living and
growing force that governments would
have 10 reckon with one way or the
other. with regard to Socialism per-
heating the army through the two years
service system, he could tell them that
the permeation had already been effected.
From the ranks upward Socialism had its
adherents. He could give an instance OF
a South German infantry regiment, In
which most Of the men and all the sub
officers were Socialists.
The Army bill passed its second read
ing In the ReichstaG to-day. All Of the
articles VIII pass their third reading to-
morrow.