The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-07-14
VALUE OF THE RUPEE.
MIR. GLADSTONE DECLINES TO EN-
LIGHTEN THE HOUSE.
In the Discussion of Clause Nine OF the
Home Rule Bill Liberal Attacks
the Premier.


LONDON. July BIN the House OF
Commons to-day Sir John Lubbock Glib
eial UniC nisD, member for London UNI
vsrsity, asked whether the Government
had settled upon the rate at which the
iLree would be received for gold.
Mr.. Gladstone said that he knew moth
Ing Of the matter beyond what he had al
ready announced.
Sir John then gave notice that he would
question the Government as to whether
gold would be given for rupees at the
same rate as rupees for gold.
Mr.. Thomas Sexton (Anti-Parnellite)
asked Mr. Gladstone TO grant day for
the discussion Of the motion, notice OF
which was given by Mr.. Sexton yesterday.
declaring that Mellor i'm suspendng Mr..
Sexton Tuesday night at the sitting OF the
committee Of the whole had exceeded his
authority.
Mr.. Gladstone replied that he doubted
the possibility Of promising day for the
discussion OF the motion.
Mr.. Sexton thereupon intimated that
he would take the first chance that pre-
sented itself 10 obtain the judgment OF
The House went into committee of the
whole for the further discussion Of Clause
2 OF the Home Rule bill.
The debate was marked by an attack
on Mr. Gladstone by member OF his own
party. Mr.. Robert Wallace 0iberaD,
member Of East Edinburgh. was opposed
TO the withdrawal Of the "In-and-out'
subsection OF the clause. announcement
of which was made by Mr.. Gladstone
Yesterday. and he spoke at length against
the course OF the Prime Minister. lie
said that the withdrawal ~ the sub
section gave TO the Irish members re-
tained in the Imperial Parliament ali the
rights and privileges held by British mem
bers. and that this would deprive Great
Britain of home rule by making the lrlsh
members the arbiters Of British interests
Mr.. Henry Labouchere, the well-known
Radical member. said that he advocated
the total exclusion OF the Irish from the
Imperial Parliament; but. he added ne
would take no course that would tend to
wreck the bill.
Mr.. Joseph Chamberlain. the Liberal
Irnionist leader. charged Mr.. Gladstone
with deceiving the country and with
breaking his publicly pledge
against the retention Of the power OF the
Irish members 10 discuss al affairs OF
nollcv and to vote thereon. The Govern
ment Mr.. Chamberlain declared, was
now unmasked, and he challenged II 10
appear before the country on the issues
raised
Mr. Chamberinins remarks were greet
ed with cheers by the opposition.
The following clauses were then rushed
through with maiorities varying be-
tween q and 30:
Clause 70. concerning the irish eNche-
auer Judges; clause %. concerning appeas
from Irish courts; clause e. concernlls
nrovision for the decision OF consutu-
t,onai questions: clause q, concerning the
office OF lord lieutenant; clause q con
cernine the use of crown lands by the
D-ish Government clause u, concerning
the, tenure Of future judges
To-norrcw the House, I'm committee,
will begin discussing clause q, which,
with the thirteen following clauses, must
be got out Of the way between ! O'CLOCK
and midnight on next Thursday evening
II the Government programme Is 10 be
executed.
Between . and 10 o'clock the galleries
Of the House were crowded with persons
eager TO watch the work Of the Govern
nent I'm forcing clauses O. IS, 49, Y, e.
oi u and 26 Of the Home Rule bill. The
At 10 o'clock Chairman Mellor applied
the closure 10 the debate on an amend
ment proposing the omission of the in
and-out' provision. which forbids Irish
members Of the Imperial Parliament 10
vote on certain questions. The closure
was carried by a vote Of 32j TO 29S amid
loud opposition cheers. Clause 9, which
provides for the representation I'm Par
lament Of Irish counties and boroughs,
was then adopted by vote Of S26 to
297
As Chairman Mellor proceeded 10 pun
the question on clause 10, the first OF
the financial clauses. the Conservatives,
after cheering derisively, left the House
in a body The Governments proposal
that the consideration of clause lo hc
postponed. was then passed by vote OF
95S 10 %. The votes on fnacial clauses
u-17 and 2o-2 were postponed by almost
eouollv heavy maiorities. by the time
clause ls. concerning the power OF the
Irish Legislative Assembly In matters
~ money. bills and votes, was reached
the boltfne Conservatives had returned.
The clause was carried by vote OF S-8
10 29i