St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1893-03-03

In speaking to the motion when the
roll was called, Aid. Franklin said the
ordinance as proposed by the railway
company was as full OF woodchucks rs
a dog was lousy. The ordinances was
an infamous one in its provisions.
Aid. Hickman thought 1t was rather
haSty to take such course.
Aid. IngerSoll said the adoption of
the motion would put the matter back
to where they were in July last.
Assemblyman Johnson said his posi-
ton was the same as that of Aid. Hick-
man and Ingersoll.
Mr.. Reardon said the ordinance did
not meet his views. Personally no
would vote to charge S. for man to go
to Minneapolis, but the people were OPP
posed to the adjustment Of the trans
fers.
The vote to indefinitely postpone was
lost, eight voting in the affirmative and
ten in the negative.
Mr.. Stone, of the White Bear electric
road, said he hoped this section OF the
ordinance would pass. AS it was now
there was no advantage to the street
railway company to change from a
cable to an electric line. The people
interested in the harvester works were
anxious to get direct communication
with the city.
AID. Zimmerman didn't see how the
changing of the cable to an electric line
had anything to do with the abolish
ment of transfers on the interurban
line. Aid. Franklin said there was
nothing in the section to say how the
line would be run, where the line would
end, or if cars. would continue beyond
the power house.
Ibilya aot1 hn hah haan
anxious to change the line to an electric
for some time, and he wanted 1T under
stood this way, and not as a concession
made by the railway company.
The section was finally allowed to
stand as it was, it being understood that
the company by its adoption would be
required to make the change.
The section relative to the safety de-
vice on Selby avenue was eliminated
from the ordnance. Mr.. Llghtner said
there would be no opposition TO an IN
dependent ordinance regarding the de-
vice being adopted at some future time.
The section providing for the cars to
be operated TO pay license OF $40 was
the subject of some discussion. Aid.
Franklin wanted the license fixed at S25
per car, the same as in Minneapolis.
Mr.. Lowry admitted the license i'll Min
neapolis was S25 on each car, but eX-
planned that in st. Paul a tax on gross
earnings was demanded, which was not
paid in Minneapolis.
Warming up little, Mr.. Lowry said
it appeared to him as though 1t wasn't
his right to say anything. Mr.. Pike
had alluded to Wall street being back
of the street railway company. Wall
street had furnished all of the money TO
carry out the improvements, and,
had it not been for the men
OF money there, st. Paul would
not at present have such a
system. He had often tried to get st.
Paul men to take hold, but as soon as
it grew trifle hot they had dropped
out. Almost every line i'll st. Paul had
not been paying for the past two years.
The company had acted. considering the
receipts. in very fair and impartial
manner. The cost to change the East
Seventh street line from cable to cleo
trio line would be in the neighbOrhOOd
of $3.50, 600, and the loss by not using the
present plant would be almost total.
He could get along very nicely with the
present cable line, but in order to
please those Interested in the har-
Vester works lie had agreed to
make the change. The question of
transfers on the interurban line might
as well, he said. be taken up first as
last, as this was the important question
to be settled. There were no lines in
st. Paul which ran cars Oftener than
five minutes. All the lines in Mime
apolis paid better than those In st:
Paul, and today the citizens of st. Paul
had better service than any city III the
country. Aid. Copeland said the service
= I 60 ~ IN linn "A
been compelled to walk home owing to
the crowded condition of the cars. This
Mr.. Lowry said could not be helped. He
had waited in New York for seven cars
Oh the elevated road because he could
not get on for the crowd. Mr.. Pike said
there should be some provision III the
ordinance defining how often cars
should be run on the different lines.
L his MIR. Lowry said he would not put
in any ordinance under any consIdera-
ton. Aid. IagerSoll inquired what,
if any motion, was before the
house, and in order to have
TO vote on Assemblyman
Van Slvke made another motion to in
definitely postpone. The motion was
lost by vote OF 10 to 6, and Assembl y
man johnson remarked that the
failure To indefinitely postpone
meant an indefinitely discuss:
Aid. Franklin then suggested
a vote be taken on the question OF
whether any ordinance abollshing
transfers Oh the interurban would lie
considered. Assemblyman Pike Oh
jected, saying that il might be advis-
able at some future time to make this
concessionif anything was secured from
the company i'll return. The vote stood
6 and 8. Messrs. Copeland, Franklin.
Hickman, Montgomery, Zimmerman and
DAILY voting for no transfer concessions.
The vote being announced, Mr.. Lightner
said enough aldermen were opposed to
the adjustment of transfers to kill any
ordinance introduced. The street car
company would not accept one unless
this clause were put in. In this state of
affairs he thought the only way to do
was to indefinitely postpone the ordi-
nance. The motion carried by vote of
eleven to four, and the meeting adj
iOurned,