The Roanoke times. [volume] (Roanoke, Va.) 1890-1895, 1893-09-24
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know who had charge OF The guards
upstairs. He didn't ask my advice and
1 didn't interfere. II the Salem com
pany had arrived before the shooting
took place | would have been in COM
mand from their arrival. l saw the mob
march up to the guards and after the
men charged bayonets they went to the
west side.
~ should think there were about ESQ
people in front OF the jail that started
to the west side, but whether all of
that crowd around there were taking an
active part, don't know.
There were two shots heard by me
distinctly on the outside. There might
have been shots L didn't boar. The
noise was deafening
Question by DR.. Gray-Do you re-
gard the filing on The west side justi-
fable and according to law?
ADswer-"I think that for Captain
Bird to carry out tho instructions he
had received he could have acted in no
other manner
Qnestion-Do you bear the RESPONSE
bilisy Of this thing?
Answer was not consulted in plac.
ing the guards
Question-Are the young men, the
soldiers, exonorated and do the authori-
ties bear the responsibility
Answer think the orders were
properly given"
Question-If these young men killed
somebody, either by orders or without
orders, should they be exonorated?
Answer-'l think the military should
be exonorated.''
Question by Judge Brand-Was there
any necessity of the troops firing?
Ahswer-"I think the circumstances
at the time tho command OF fire was
given made it necessary. They had no
other means, according to my idea, CT
protecting the prisoner"
Questionable you accompany the
mayor to the Ponce de Leon
Answer-"I did"
Question-Did you have any converse.
tlon on the steps of the hotel.
Answer-"It was reported that the
mob was breaking into the hardware
stores to procure arms and dynamite
and ] saw they had broken into the
stores"
Questionable you converse with Cap
tain j. Crane?
Answer-"I can't say"
Questionable you say, "They could
not blame the military, as we had
orders" butat the same time condemned
the hring, and say there ought not to
have been any blood shed?
Answer may nave said the COM
mands had to be obeyed. 1 probably
said it was great pity that we should
lose our citizens on account of worth
less negro"
Question Did you give the advice
that it would be better to surrender the
prisoner?
Answer-"I did not"
Question Could not the two shots
you spoke of have come from the upper
window of the jail?
Answer can't say from which
point other than on tho west side OF the
building; didn't see the flash"
Is. LACY HoGE's STATEMENT.
Il. Lacy Hoge--"About o'clock I
saw friend of mine in the crowd and
told him he had better leave as l be-
lieved the military would shoot; that
necessity would force it upon them. I
told them there was no law to shoot
blank cartridges. I also spoke to Mr..
Wick and told him the same
About that time police officer
ordered the crowd to dispense. passed
on through towards home. met Lieu
tenapt Hatcher and said, I'm afraid
you WIZ have trouble He replied he
was afraid they would but they would
stay as long as they had orders. Some
one in the crowd said they would only
shoot blank cartridges.
Lieutenant Hatcher said, You are
mistaken. If we shoot at all we will
shoot bullets After supper l came
back and saw some one ontside fire a
pistol in the air, and while I was near
the Presbyterian Church | heard the
beating on the door. Then heard the
firing OF five or six pistols then
wheeled around and saw the volley
from the military. 1 told Dr. Campbell
at the time that the first shots were
from the outside"
At the conclusion Of Mr.. Hoge's tes
timony the jury adjourned until 10
o'clock Monday.
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