New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-02-15
,,p RALFOUR ON HOME RULE.
Continurd from First Page.

=, Tho Irish Parliament II they We're supposed 10
Of 'He the British Constitution, Mr. Bryce
ne oed that the Secretary of State would be
'n.'' 81 the authorities to be appealed to.
QUO MAN Ecdmond What Secretary oil state Are to
. 49,, under the Colonial pEec'
e P' &c. The Home Secretary is usually termed
Nj NJ n State but there is no idea Of submitting
sc,V 20 the control Of the Home Office
boarding Ulster, Mr.. Bryce continued. the
- oncht not to Judge the situation by the
i nO Of certain members There was not, and
Is NOT he any severance of the interests of
,,,s,.r from those of the rest of Ireland. Within
o oars the speaker declared, there had not
Ian single instance of oppression perpetratci in
,.snd outside of Ulster on the ground of religion.
r;es Of "Oh, OH" and Irish cheers Ulster, con-
,nne1 the speaker, was by no means united III
tus,iIity 10 the bill. The farmers oil the province
IT, onxious To secure reductions OF rentals, and
W. snnDortcd the measure. I" Hear. hear , The
t "s qualification for electors 10 the proposed
poapnd Irish chamber was confined to 10000 per
ms surely if Ulster possessed all the wealth OF
~" country rs some would seem TO hold, shc
.IroulS have the larger share in the rcprcsenation
y, .bo second chamber Hear, h"arD lie could
not therefore. unders and why the honorable mem
hers from | lister were Opposed TO the plan. As TO
M' nronosas regarding the Irish conStabuary and
VIZ tri,IIl servants Mr.. Bryce declared that he
unld assure the leader of the Conservatives THAI
N public engagements with thos" persons wouln
~ ~ b.bfullv observed He proceeded TO support
10 provisions of the bill in detail, ard concluded
S obs4rving that in his opinion IT was practical
scbsmp possessing the elements OF stablllty ana
sppealins to the better and higher SIDE oil human
nature r ILL.,. J;boro1 J-r;on;s4 ,no,nber for
.ho Rordesey Division of Birmingham, said that
.ha Government should challenge the verdict OF
W.. VIZ conntrv as the verdict at the last general
eIsctop was obtained by false pretenscs. If the
Hi were submitted TO the electors they would
refuse 10 sanction H.
,r REDMOND WANTS MANY AMENDMENTS.
John T. Redmond, Parncllite member for Water
,,r,. CITY, spoke enthusiastically of Mr.. Gladstone
During tho Iatters speech last evening. he said.
be was impressed not much with the pres
ence Of the Prime Minister with the absence
Of that great lrislIman who drove the Prime
Minister from the path OF coercion to that or
cnnrcssion He did not bcgrudge the Prime Min
ister his need of praise. hnt he would nave no
hare in The ingratituic of those who showcrcd
praise upon living EnClishman and shrank from
mentioning the name of dead lrlsnman' out
he proposing a Coercion act. Opposition cheers.
Willie in sympathy with the broad principles OF
the bill Mr. Redmond found in it grave blots and
felt it imperative 10 press for the amendment Tor
many OF us provisions. Irishmen had always dis
puted the validity of the Act of Unlon and II they
accepted the bill. and with it the supremacy OF
the Imperial Parliament based upon the ACT o!
Jnion they must have some guarantee that TIC
British Parliament would not exercise It's right
10 legislate over the heads of the Irish Parliament
Local matter He differed with the member
from North Kerry MIR SeXton), who had sail that
snrb Guarantee clause in the hill would not have
the Slightest valrc There should he a declaration
10 the effect that the Imperial Parliament would
refrain from capricious and veNatious Interference
either by repeal revision, of tie acts OF the irish
legislature lie further disagreed with the opln-
ion OF the member fer North Kerry that ue
s ana Of the Irish from Westminster would be
more dangerous than their presence there lhls
opinion ignored the fact that the presence OF tlc
Irish would imply the constant cnd"aNor oil ,Is,cr
10 wreck the Constitution given TO Ire ana MI.
Redmond said in conclusion that he regretted Una,
the member for East Manchester Mr.. Balfourl mad
descended 10 the thretts that when the IonSeria
tives should come into power they would exercise
the veto power.
MIR. Balfour at once protested that he had made
no such threat. and that no such threaV co"Iu Oc
inferred from his words ~
In response 10 William Redmonds que2Aon, MI
Morley, Chief Secretary for Ireland, sad that ac-
cording to the bills provisions, the constaDulary
Mr. Redmond, after thanking Mr.. Morry Tor
this information, expressed satisfaction that pro-
vision for a second chamber would be made as
then the minority would have no occasion to pro,
claim their fears of persecution az the hands OF
Catholics lie hoped that the bill would prove
to be the final settlement of the Homo Rule aues-
T. w Russell, Unionist. member for South Ty-
rone said Ulster would oppose the Dill to the
last The bill contained nothing to prevent r.
performance that the Irish landlords, after up,
holding English administration in Ireland. should
now be discarded by the Liberals.
On motion of Lord Randolph Churchill, the
debate was then adjourned. 80
The Duke and Duchess of Teck, Princess May
and a few peers listcred TO the debate, but few
other visitors were present. Compared with it,
condition yesterday, the House was deserted
Next TO Mr.. lalfour, John Redmond was the most
interesting figure Although somewhat hostile.
Mr. Redmonds speech IS not believed to cndangel
the bill az the second reading which, according
TO present indications, will be passed with the full
Gladstonian majority The great difference OF
opinion exists in the matter of the retention of
the Irish members at Westminster The Inionists
wishc. 70 have the proposal rejected. The Scotch
and Welsh mG@ are mot pTasS cass win Where
Irish members Will be prccluded from voting, as
II threatens an indefinite postponement of such
reforms as church dsestablishment, which cannot
be carried without Irish votes. ",
When Mr. Morley stated tonight that the irish
constabulary would remain under imperial con
troll for six years. according 70 the bl" Mr. kcu-
mond limited that, had this been known before
the schsm in the Irish party might have been
closed This uttcrance is regarded as the pref
ude OF the reunion Of the factions