Morning journal and courier., 1893-11-22
HEHS By TELEGRAPH.
From ALI Quarters.
MIR. BLOUNr IS ANSWERED
Minister Thurston of Hawaii
Tells His Story.
NOT FAVORABLE TO INCOME TAX.
May be Reported Separate
to the House.
ak Is NO MATCH FOR DIREeTUM.
The Black Stallion Won i'm
Three Straight Heats.
ak Is NO MATCH FOR DIREeTuM.
HE REPLIES TO BLoUNT,

HE REPLIES TO BLOUNT.
| Minister Thurston of Hawaii Says
That Mr.. BlounI's Report Was
Made on Evidence Obtained From
Private Interviews and in no In
stance Was an Opportunity Given
to Contradict Them or to Present
Other Evidence - MIR. Thursten
Then Gives the Facts OF the Revolt
luton.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 21.-Mr. Thurston,
the Hawaiian minister, this afternoon made
a reply to the report of Mr.. Blount. Mr..
Thurston says:
GAS have received no communication
that Mr.. Blount has made report, have
not seen copy of it and do not know what
it contains except from reading newspaper
extracts, and am unaware of the present
contentious Of the United States concern
ing Hawaii, am unable at present. in the
absence of such knowledge, to intelligently
state what the position and claims of the
Hawaiian government are. 1t would,
moreover, be contrary to diplomatic court
esy for me to publish statement on such
subject prior to informing the United
States of the same. A large portion of the
published extracts from Mr.. Blount's re-
port consist, however, of personal attacks
upon me and those associated with me in
the provisional government, impugning
our veracity, good faith and courage and
charging ue with fraud and duplicity. 1
deem it proper, therefore, to make per-
nal reply to such charges, combining my
self to statements of fact, of which as
personal actor, am prepared to testify
to before any impartial tribunal.
"First, desire to call attention to Mr..
Blount's method of constructing his report.
Although he, in several places, states that
1 was the leader of the revolutionary move
ment, he has never asked me a question
concerning the same, nor given me an op
portunity to make any statement although
l have at all times been ready and willing
to do SO. The same Is true of large num-
Der of other men who took a leading part
in the movement of January last. In the
second place his evidence consists ex-
clusively of prepared afidsvits or of an
swers to leading questions put by himself
at private interviews no one else being
present but the stenographer. In no in
stance has there been any cross examine
ton of witnesses; opportunity to contra
dict or explain evidence given or present
other evidence"
Replying to Mr.. Blount's charge that the
American troops were landed under pre-
arranged agreement with the committee of
safety that they should 80 land and assist
in the overthrow of the queen, Mr. Thur
ston says:
81 hereby state that at no time did Mr..
Stevens or Captain Wiltss assure me or the
committee of safety or any subcommittee
thereof that the United States troops would
ofrkt to- rf,,<x H. r4ol
fishing the provisional government, and IS
a matter of fact they did not 80 assist I
can produces witnesses in support of this
statement of the highest responsibility in
overwhelming numbers, but Mr.. Blount
has rendered 1t unnecessary to do 30. The
statements of Mr.. Wundenberg and Mr.. Da-
mon have been put forward as the strongest
evidence in support of MIR. Blount's con-
tention. In Mr.. Wundenberg's statement
he says that when the committee of safety
| told Mr.. Stevens they were not ready to
act he replied: Gentlemen-The troops of
| the Boston will land at o'clock whether
| you are ready or not
"The reason for this reply and the sub
sc uent. landing of troops is manifest
/ The troops we're landed to protect Ameri-
| can citizens and property in event of the
| impending and inevitable conflict between
the queen and citizens and not to CO.
| operate with the committee in carry
| ing out it's plans. In fact the troops
did not cooperate with the committee
and the committee had no more knowledge
than the queens government where the
troops were going, nor what they were
going to do. The whole gist of Mr.. Damon's
long examination is likewise contained in
his statement that when, after the organi-
zation and proclamation of the new gov
| eminent, the request was made for the sup.
port of the United States troops 1t WAS re-
fused, Lieutenant Commander Swineburne
the commanding officer sending back word
Captain Wiltse's orders are remain pas
| sive.'"
Regarding Mr.. Blount's charge that the
queen had ample military force witt
| which to have met the committee, and thai
but for the support of the United State'
representatives and troops the establish
ment of the provisional government woult
have been impossible Mr.. Thurston says:
"Although the presence of the American
troops had quieting effect on the rougl
characters in the city and may have pre-
vented some bloodshsd, they were not es
sential to and did not assist in the over
throw of the queen. The result of tn
; movement would have been eventually tn
came If there had not been q marine within
a thousand miles of Honolulu. In supper
of this statement cite the following facts
Cd The troops did not land till Monday nigh
| the 10th of January, after the revolution ha
been in full progress since the afternoon of Sa
urday, the 14th, during which time the commi
ct opsby eor
CO There was absolutely no attempt at col
cealment from the government of the Object
| aud intentions Of the committee.
90 Tho queen, her cabinet and their supper
| ers were utterly demoraliZed suspicious of or
a | another and devoid OF leadership.
cammtttaa Safety and their
| porters were united had ample force to execu
kneT b wht dasy rants
thoroughness and confidence to do 1t.
Mr.. Thurston Gays there is no confli
concerning the facts of the first propos
ton. II is admitted by all that the quee
began the revolution at noon on the IA
by attempting to promulgate 8 constit
ton In support of the second propos
ton he states that on the afternoon of Il
18th the queen still insisting upon Il
proclamation, he advised the queens ca
met to declare the queen in revolution 81
the throne vacant and at their request
drew up proclamation to that effect. !
meeting of 200 citizens that afternot
the queen was denounced in tie stronge
terms; armed resistance and q count
revolution was advocated and the queer
minister of the interior, John Colbur
] asked armed support against the quee
/ | The queens attorney general, Mr.. PETE
son, and her attorney, Paul Neuman, we
both present. The committee of cafe
was publicly named.
On the morning OF the 18th Mr.. Thu
ton told two members of the cabinet Il
the committee intended to depose I
queen and establish a provisional Cover
ment. They asked for twenty four no,
no in which to consider the matter, but 4
Thurston declined to wait. The commit
met openly that morning with the
knowledge of the government of the pl
of meeting. The next morning the CO
mittee without ooncealment met in
elf Tharaton's Office, within 200 feet of
I'D police station, Marshal Wilson's he
quarters, where the entire police force '
stationed. While the meeting was in p
gress Wilson came to the Office and l
private talk with Mr.. Thurston asked
as latter If the matter could not be fixed
M some way, offering, If necessary, to Il
of the queen up to prevent her from procla
ing q new constitution. Mr.. Thurston e
they were going to take no chances
would settle the matter once and for
Wilson then left. He has since stated
ets he Immediately reported to the cabinet
nd advised arresting the committee, but
cabinet were afraid and refused to ALLOW
On the afternoon of the 18th q n
"A meeting of 8, 900 unarmed men was
vs. within block of the palace and was
= dressed by number of speakers, all
nounoing the queen. The meeting '
s. y tremendous cheering and great eathusi