New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-05-09
MOTIONS VOTED DOWN.

ovER TAUNT TO Mr. CHAMBERLAIN
OPPOSITION AMENDMENTS AND
MOTIONS VOTED DOWN
london. May s-The House of Commons to-day
vent into committee on the Home Rulo hill. After
che debate had gone on for six hours, Mr. Morley,
thief Secretary for Ireland, moved the closure
His motion evoked opposition yclls and cries of
shameful" and "Scandalous." 10 which the
Irish members replied Remember what you
did in 1851" The closure was carried by a vote
Of 243 10 %.
Lord Randolph Churchill moved thot the chair
man Of the committee report progress. II was
hopeless he said, TO get fair play as the business
IN committee being conducted
Mr. Gladstone resisted the motion, rcmarking
that he was not the author of the closure rule
Mr. Chamberlain said that he could appreciate
the Prime Minister'S coolncsS When the worm
was tramplcd il was not the tramplcr who had
reason to become excited. Nevertheless the worms
feelings might be hurt Mr. Chamberlain closed
with fling at the Irish, when he charged with
unliscriminating support of the Government
How much would it take to square you ."
shouted William Pollard Byles, a Yorkshire
Liberal. Conservative shouts for an apology fol-
lowed The chairman requested Mr.. Bycs TO
apologize. hut Mr. Bylcs refused TO do So More
shouting and general disorder swecd the up
roar, above which could be heard indistincty the
protests of the Irish that Mr. Chamberlain
the ore who Ought to apologize first. Eventually
Nj Gladstone intcrposcd, calmed the members and
drew from the chairman statement that he had
misunderstood the facts and wished to withdraw
his request for an apology from Mr.. Byles
The motion TO report progress was then rejected
by vote Of 307 10 265.
Mr. Balfour moved that the chairman leave
the chair The motion resisted by Mr.. Glad
stone. and was lost by vote of @04 to 2j7
When the monotony of useless motions and
divisions wac resumed Chairman Mellor's voice
noticrablv hcarse in consequence of his strenu-
Gus hut Intellectual efforts TO make himself heard
during the worst of the confusion caused by the
Byles incident. The sitting dragged uncventfuly
to III, adjournment at midnight The last two
hours had been completely wasted IN futile squab-
bling and voting.
On the House taking mp the bill in committee
Joseph Chamberlain moved to postpone clause /.
which simply provides that on ana after the APP
pointed day there shall be legislature in IRELAND.
Mr. Chamberlain said that il was his intention
TO move the po>tponemcnt Of every clause mp 10
clause 0. in order 10 begin the discussion of the
bill with the most important proposals. The
House. he added. had right 10 know whether
or not the Government meant 10 adhere 10 the
main points Of 'hc bill otherwise the House might
at any time find new bill sprung upon it.
Mr.. Gladstone replied that be- declined ia allow
Mr. Chamberlain 10 reserve to himself tlc priri-
lege 70 challenge clauses out o; their order. The
bill was before the House in particular form,
and the Government alone had the right to
Indicate variations from that form.
A. J. Balfour charged Mr.. Gladstone with con-
ealing now he designed to arrange the representa-
VI Io
should find the time more propitous for revealing
H.
. J. w. Lowther and other Unonists continued
TO tax in strain similar that of their leaders,
while the Irish Nationalist cried Divide Mr. |
Lowthcr who is relative Of Lord Salisbury. az |
cused Timothy Uealy of leading organized dis |
order.
Mr. sIIealy replied that the statement was un-
true: the disorder was on The other side.
Chairman Mellor put an end TO the s'iuabble Ivy |
calling the dsputants to oidrr. and Mr. Chamber
lsins amendment was rejected by vote of 20 |
TO 2l3.
Charles J. Darling Conservative member for |
Deptfoid. proposed to amend clause by reaifirm- |
ing the supremacy of Parliament in local "a well |
as imperial matters Mr. Gladstone opposed the
motion, for the reason that the supremacy of Par
lament had been asserted sufficiently i'll the pre-
smble
Colonel Saunderson, the Ulster loyalist. argued |
that the amendment Necessary TO curb tho |
predatory propensites OF the squalid Irish Par |
lament with hungry executive floating in |
whiskey"
Mr. Balfour said that the proposed amendment
was preface to future provisions by which the
Imperial Parliament would be enabled to control
local and personal affairs in Ireland
Mr.. Chamberlain declared il 70 be sinister
omen that the Government was unwilling TO ac- |
cept tie amendment II it Were deemed dc,irhoie
20 enforce the supremacy Of the Imperial farll;i-
ment. then certainly that supremacy ought 10 pc
first asserted He himself did not believe that
the Government wished 10 assert TIN, supremacy
Amid the Conservative cheers which gfcr,cu
this statement the electric lights in the lobocs |
and galleries went out. and proceedings were s'ls-
pended To shorten the debate the Irish members
sbstained from speaking on Mr.. Darlings amend,
nent. although the Conservative speakers taunrei
them with exceptional malignity for the purpose !
Of invoking them in the discussion. linen, az
ALREADY stated. closure was moved ana carried
an, Mr. Darling amendment was lost by Vot" OF
2sj TO 233
bill Mr. Gladstone stated in reply to Mr.. Champci-
lain. that be would propose that the nInth cHm::"
should he retained without alteration ms
clause provides for the retention OF lrsli memWrs
In the Imperial Parliament.
The Speaker ruled that the INSTRUCTIONS 10 INC
Committee on the Home Rule bile. offered py |
Loid Randolph Churchill and others. with view
OF defeating the measure. were out OF Oricf.
"CAvENDIsH" on Ills WAY HERE.
London. May s.-IIenry Jones. better known as