New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-07-09
CLAUSE Q MA Y MAKE TROUBLE.
THE DEBATE ON 1T WILL BE THE CULMI.
NATION OF THE HOME RULE FIGHT
BALFoURS QUESTIONS REGARDING CON
TEMPLATED ALTERATIONS IN THE
CAUSE.-THE PREMIER's PROBABLE
AT1ITCDE-THE CLOSURE TO BE
APPLIED ON THURSDAY
APPLIED ON THURSDAY.

APPLIED ON THURSDAY
London. July s.-Thc new programme Of the Gov
eminent has worked like a charm. on Thursday
night clauses ,. Is. and were pushed through
the committee stage swiftly that the Opposition
hardly had time to breathe between votes. This cX-
hibition OF the smooth working, Of the Government
machine has given new courage and hope 10 the
friends of Home Rule. The petty mutny Of the
Radicals on Thu Sday evening cXctes apprchen-
sion the bllGerencc Of John Redmond and his little
band Of ParnceS IS ignored Altogether thc Lib
erals feel confident than at any time since
the Whrsuntide recess. although nobody doubts tina,
there sIil difficulties ahead among which the
Government may 20 to pieces.
The elimination Of the struggle will BE- next weeks
debate Clause o. which contains ten subheadS con
corning Irish representation at Westminster This
part Of the iii has been named the in and out -
clause by the Tories II provides for the retention
Of eighty OF the 100 Irish members in the House II
Commons, but deprivcs them OF the right TO vote
questions exclusively concerning Great Britain.
Both Of these provisions have been the subjects Of
almost nnumcrablc editorials and both regarded
with divided opinions by the Liberals Themselves
far Mr. Gladstone has declined to tell the House
Of Commons just what alterations he purposes TO
make in Clause 8. Last night Mr.. Balionr leader
Of the Unionst,, tried to draw from the Pr, mier an
rnequivocal declaration the subject. lie asked
these pivotal questions: Has the Government de
cided definitely that Irish members shall remain in
the House OF commons II the IriSh members re-
main. they to vote every class OF subjects or
merely an defined class OF subjects, II the Irish
still sill in the Imperial Parliament how many seats
will he allowed them
The Parliamentary skill for which III. Gladstone has
become celebrated never shown to greater ad-
vantage than when he parted these questions. He
has realized kccnly has anybody that Clause Is
full of thorns for the Government; thai In fact the
disputes which will acco mpany it, discussion VIII i'm
peril IN, whole ill and the Government His
tactics have been thcIcfore 10 assume an attitude OF
benevolent neutrality and to profess apparently keen
desire 20 please every body. He replied to Mr.. Bal
four conformity with this policy. The Government
said would IMMEDIATE itself readily To any at
rang cmcut convenient 10 the House and would Gvoid
anything calculated to excite the apprchensions Of
members Of any party. Not a word more could he
got out Of him. lie maintained an amablc
silence while Sir Henry James and Leonard Courtney
Libtral Cnonists and Henry Matthews. Conservative
pccd him with questions and taunls.
In Ministerial circles it Is no secret that Mr. Glad
stone wishes to adhere to the original proposals Of
the bill that eighty Irishmcn b. retained AT West
minister. He Is willing, however, TO abolish the In
and out" arrangement 20 A. 10 empower the irish
members 10 vote on all questions. Iish and In
pcral The Liberals are 50 divided on every question
involved in tho clause that the Government fears TO
assume Il determined attitude toward any lin" Of
II. Many OF the majority believe that th' Il'h "uHi'
not 10 vote on any except Imperial qu' stons. The
Tarneliics. Under the r.inous Redmond. demand
that Il, long Is the control Of Irish taxation remains
with the Imperial Parliament all the irish members
shall be retained to vote on all questions.
The Unlonists are hopeful that the dscord in the
Glad stonan RANKS will afford them an opportunity 10
steal n division. The best CHARGE for this manoeuvr'
will nc offered when Athcr!y JoncI, LIBERAL member
for Northwest Durham. propose that the c'ad," hc
amended to empower Irish members 20 vote on al
subjec A dozen Lneal~ will support tho amend
ment and thu, viii probIbly place the fat Of the
Government IN the balance. should The peril b'com"
100 threatening. however, and vote Of confidence he
preached Mr.. Gladstone would he likely 10 cvadc TIC
cris, 10y leaving settlement o. the question 20 the
HLu,e a, such and not sitting FL committee.
when The Government wi'l -aid apply the closure.
Noi all IA" Liberal, pleased with III" prospect ~
thu examining each s-iV" Cliuc down tn" hio1lS
of the Opposition. several OF them say that IN the
near future Conservatives viii have their turn,
and make the Liberals smart under the sa,ac treat
mcnt. The joIiiy Of them. backed by the Liberal
NEWSPAPER Try 10 encourage thes" iimid ones ny
telling Them that they Wing N" country from
Parliamentary impotence and anarchy. ana that III
week or the wheels will move 80 smoothly In
committee that the Opposition will not cause even a
Crcak.