St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1893-11-12

matter was one of law as we'll as of fact.
Certainly this government would not DE
lustiflable in taking any steps toward
the restoration of the queen il we were
not directly responsible for her over
throw. lie said that he was opposed to
annexation, but that this proposition to
restore the queen presented a different
question, and he was not prepared to
discuss 1t beyond this point before he
had made thorough study of the CUES
ton.
Senator Faulkner, of Virginia, had
only glanced at Secretary Gresham's
letter, he said, bur, inferring that the
main idea of Secretary Gresham's state
ment was the restoration of the mon
archy in Hawaii, he could not under
stand how that could be brought about
by the United States under existing
conditions. The provisional govern
ment IS In full power there and has con-
troll OF everything in the islands," he
said. The United States might do one
OF three things: 1t might keep its hands
on OF Hawaii; proceed TO annex it, or
declare protectorate: but how we can
Interfere to restore the monarchy is be-
yond my comprehension
Judge Turner, of Georgia, who is one
OF the best lawyers in the house, said
today that he was early opposed 10 the
annexation of Hawaii, and was inclined
to agree generally with what the secre-
tary of state said in connection with the
Hawaiian affair.
Representative Cobb, of Missouri. SAID
that he was opposed TO annexation. but
that he did not think we ought 10 inter-
fere to restore the queen.
Representative Boatner, of Louisiana.
sad that he did not think that this gov
2rnmanr srtf To fV,tn fnra i,a
the former government of Hawaii, and,
that If 1t appeared to be the case that
the queen was deposed with the assist
ance or this government, we should do
everything in our power TO correct the
wrong.
James Hyde Pratt, of Albany, is in
the city. There is FAMILY relationship
between President Cleveland and Mr..
Pratt, Mr.. Cleveland'S grandfather hay-
ing been brother to Mr.. Pratt's mother.
MI. Pratt had a previous acquaintance
WITH MIR. CLEVELAND,
having often seen him while he was at
Albany as governor of New York. The
latter gentleman also has family rela-
tIonship in the Hawaiian islands, and
feels very much exercised at the policy
towards the islands enunciated in Secre-
tary Gresham's letter. He drove out to
Woodley this afternoon and had a half
hours talk with the president on the
subject. AS a result of the talk he
learned that Mr.. Cleveland approves
thoroughly and wholly of Secretary
GreSham's letter and all that is con-
tanned in it. MIR. Pratt has lived
much in the islands and does not
at all agree with Secretary Gresham's
ideas, or with his belief as to the facts
OF the case. He stated TO the president
that Mr.. Gresham'S letter read to him
like a special plea of an advocate for his
case. His statement that the deposition
of the queen was accomplished by aliens
was sufficient to 0iscredit the whole
letter. to his mind. for he had knowledge
that most of the leaders of the revOlu-
ton were eHaWalian-boTn and the parents
or many OF them were HaWaiian-bO born.
though of foreign parents. He urged.
also, that the best natives approved of
the present government, and only the
dIsorderly element amongst them de-
sired Its overthrow.
He stated 10 the president his be-
lief that, IN order to re-establiSh Queen
LilluOkalanl upon the throne, il would
be necessary to disarm every white
man liz the islands. He did not believe
that the queen could be maintained on
the throne day without the influence
OF the armed forces of authority of the
United States. The present govern
ment, he argued, was in possession Of
all the arms and powers of authority,
had its forces well organized and disci-
plined, and was able to maintain
itself against internal disturb
ances. He then questioned the
accuracy Of the statement that
Minister Stevens and Capt. WiltSe had
beeu instrumental in serving the revo-
lutionists, and the success of the revo-
luton was dependent on the aid they
rendered it. They did no more, he as
serted, than had been authorized by the
instructions of Secretary Bayard to
Minister Merrill III July, 1887, for guild
ance in similar period of disorder. At
this point the president asked Mr.. Pratt
whether he thought he had as good
opportunities of information on the
subject as he Che PRESIDENT had, after
a careful investigation and study of
the subject for eight months. Mr..
Pratt rejoined that he thought ne
had since lie had been in intimate rela-
tionS by correspondence and otherwise
with the Islands for owe: thirty years.
The president closed the interview by
saying that he had absolute faith i'll tha
accuracy of all conclusions drawn by
Secretary Gresham, AMI that Minister
Stevens and Capt. Wiltse had commit
ted an act of usurpation and done a
wrong to helpless wower which it was
the duty of the United States govern
ment to undo.
Mr.. Pratt consented to relate the SUBJ
stance of his interview with President
Cleveland for publication by the Asso-
clated Press as detailed above.