The Anaconda standard. [volume] (Anaconda, Mont.) 1889-1970, 1893-11-12

OF Secretary Gresham's statement was
the restoration OF monarchy In Hawaii.
He could not understand bow that could
b brought about by the Unitod States
under existing conditions.
Judge Turner Of Georgia, Who u one OF
the best lawyers in the house. sasd he
oarly opposed the annexation of Hawaii
and was inclined to agree generally with
what the secretary of state said In con-
nection with tho Hawaiian affair.
Representative Cobb Of Missouri OPP
posed annexation, but did not think We
ought to interfere to restore the queen.
Representative Boatner of Louisiana
said he did not think this government has
any right to interfere in tho former gov
ernnent OF Hawaii. and u il appeared to
be the case that tho queen was deposed
with the assistance of this government,
We should do everything in our power TO
correct the wrong.
James Hyde Pratt of Albany 10 In the
city. There 10 family relationship be-
tween President Cleveland and Pratt.
Cleveland's grandfather having becn .
brother to Pratt's mother. Pratt had
previous acquaintance with Cleveland,
having often seen him whilc he was at
Albany as governor Of New York. Pratt
also has family relationship in tho Ha-
waiian islands and feels much exercsed.at
the policy towards tho islands enunciatcd
In Secretary Gresham's letter. He drove
out to Woodley this afternoon and had
half an hours talk with tho president on
tho subject. As q result he learned
that Cleveland approves thoroughly and
wholly, Gresham's letter and all that 10
contained in IL. Pratt has lived much In
the islands and doesn't agreo at all with
Grcshams ideas or belief ms to the facts
In the case. He stated to the president
that Grsseam's letter read to him like the
special plea of an advocate for his case.
His statement that the deposition Of the
the queen was accomplished by aliens 10
sufficient to discrcdit the whole letter to
his mind. for he has know ledge that most
of the leaders Of the revolution were Ha-
waiian born and tho parents OF
many Of them were Hawaiian born,
though they were of foreign parentagc.
He urged also that tho best NATIVES ap-
proved Of the present government. and
only the disorderly amongst them desired
its overthrow. He stated to the president
his belief that in order to reestablish
Queen LiliuolSalani IL would be necessary
to disarm every white man on the islands.
He did not believe the queen could be
maintained on tho throne day without
the influence Of armed forces or by the
authority Of tho United States. The pres.
ent government, he argued, is in posses.
sion Of all the arms and the power Of au.
thority. aud had its forces well organised
and disciplined and was able to maintain
itself against internal disturbances. He
then questioned the accuracy of the state
msnt that Minister Stevens and Captain
Willis werc instrumental in serving the
revoiutionists, aud that the success Of the
revolution was dependent upon the aid
they rendered. They did no moro, he as
serted, than was authorized by the in
structions Of Secretary Bayard TO Minister
Merrill in July, 1887, for guidance in q
similar period Of disorder.
At this point the president asked Pratt
whether he thought he had az good op-
portunities of Information on the subject
as the president after careful investiga.
tion and study Of the subject for eight
months. Pratt rejoined that no thought
he had, since he had been in intimate re-
lations by correspondence and otherwise
with the islands for more than 30 years.
The president closed the interview by say.
ing he had absolute faith in the accuracy
OF all the conclusions drawn by Gresham,
and that Stevens and Captain Willis com.
mitted IN act Of usurpation and did q
wrong to helpless power which it was
the duty of the United States government
to undo. Pratt consented to relate the
substance OF his interview with President
Cleveland for publication by the asso-
ciated press.