The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1893-07-19
THE STATE CIVIL SERVICE.
REFoRMERs MEET THE GOVERNOR
IND COMMISSIONERS.
a List OF Violations OF the Law Given 60 the
Governor with Request that He Cor
rect Theu--A Poser for the Ucfornorr.


a List OF Violations OF the Law Given 60 the
Governor with . Request that He Cor
rect Them--A Poser for tho Rcformerr.
ALBANY. July 1a-Civil Service Reiormers
+. NJ. LOOMS Of Buffalo, George McAneny,
William Potts. g & Terry OF New York. and
Matthew Hale OF Albany. who are all members
OF or connected with the Civil Service Reform
League Of New York city. came to the capital
to-day to meet State Civil Service Commits
sioners Bailey, Van yliet aud McKinstry. They
engaged rooms at the Kenmore. and promul-
gated the following arraign ment OF the State
civil service and their own plan for o correc-
ton OF the OWLS they have discovered.
An examination OF the records in the once OF the
New York Civil Service Commission reveals the follow.
ing fncts;
l. That nfty.nine persons are now illegally holding
ofcos In the competitive schedule B. seventeen in tbs
petitive O. fortythree in schedule D. and three
indefinite; q total OF 122.
= That OF a total OF asia places in the published
roster OF the State. but 4ee are In the competitive
schedule
g. That since JAM l. 1902 seven positions have been
removed from schedule h. tho competitive to A, tho
exempt; twenty from to c, the non.comDetive. and
nifty from @ toA
T. That four departments have not submitted tho
quarterly reports required by law since April i. 1892
since Sept 30 1892 and three of the courts since
Oct 1892 the present condition with respect com
pliancs with the law being in doubt
g. That no reports from the secretaries OF the muni.
otpal systems have been received in two years. In
several cities the civil service rules have been pract
cAuy Suspended while In othes they have never been
adopted.
For the correction Of these abuses It Is
asked:
I. That the positions illegally filled be declared
vacant after such examinations as the law and the
That there be revision Of the general eassine.
tons designed to more properly npror.ion the places
Ins 81. places transferred be restored to their
sss
tenn. Of Cites &c in asRd0' OF ''' ''
The reiormsrs met the State Gomm Is
been. Mr., Iooms acted as spokesman; lie
read The The msm9Ss Of the
consent. acted as shisi advocate for the state
formal discussion of every point in tho indict-
t. S4S Sss ssers sS f Ss s
their list. and that the present Civil Ser
snd eter aS.nE with Go ows
had done moro toward enforcing the Civil
Grover Cleveland. Of which Mr. fotts himself
was CnleL examiner until removed Dy fOV.
Hill. Mr.. Loomls also admitted in regard te
hs S sdt 9 The OF he
above the grade Of iaborers and not belonging
in the competitive class. and that about 200 OF
examination Il. not required. Nj; Loo1nis CON
fesses also that much OF what the reformors
asked was gradually being done by the Com
MI: Van vlist told tho .seiormers that the
avn mi n NJ that chow tha can m "a
OF q good butter and cheese maker. and that
was the reason why there were so many ar-
Loomis was quite ready to admit that the Civil
4 he f
observe II. but he declared that Coy. Flower
was sinle for the oes.Tva n OF the Iaw
departments that they must do thus and 80;
even II they were elected BY the, people and
viii. The reformers asked the Commissi ION to
request the Governor to take their list OF lille,
chiefs to remove them and hold examinations
to al t, the e. places. The Commission GraveiS
Then everybody, went down to see the Gov:
ernor. A copy Of the indietment was presented
to the Governor. with list OF the illegal Office
holders. and request to have them all re-
But what shall be done about the money
the State has paid these persons:" asked the
Tss the The oneK 9r nsa al had bs n
illegally spent II the clerks were declared to be
The Governor and Mr.. Loomis then had q
long colloquy. :, The Governor said some paiI,
action. He told Mr. Loomis that he was salts
asd that the reformers. at their meeting IN
obtained much q their powder from John IA i
Service Commission, who had said One
could drive coach and four through the State
Civil Service law" and who had recently gone
to his, reward as United States Consul to a
Mr.. LOOMS said that he had not communi-
Gated with Mr.; Riley. and that the man who
said so was liar. He added that he and his
friends had not depended on Mr.: Riley. whom
Tho Governor tried to get the reformers to
see that he had little control over the action Of
the Independent heads OF departments, but
Mr.. Loomis Yves determined 70 hold ne Gov
ernor let Mr.. Loomis 20 after telling him to
60 TO Chicago and look at the men In charge OF
the dairy exhibits Of this State. one OF whom
has won first prize for his chooses. and soc II
he could select better men by his civil service
examinations.