The daily morning Astorian. [volume] (Astoria, Oregon) 1883-1899, 1893-10-18
ANOTHER SENATORIAL TILT
Hill Scores Morgan Of Alabama in a
Fine Speech.
RIDIOULEs HIS ARGUMENTS
Sherman Comes to the Front with
Strong Admonition to the Senate
TO Get to Business.
Associated Press.

Associated Press
Washington, Oct. 17-At the open
ing of the senate this morning Dolph
asked that the journal he corrected to
show the presence of Allen and Kyle
On sundry roll calls yesterday, they
having been present in the senate,
but having failed to vote. Dolph said
that twenty-siX republican senators
not only favored the repeal of the
Sherman act, but would vote to amend
the rules so that the majority could
limit the debate. He regarded it as
farcical for a senator to suggest the
absence Of quorum and then, on the
roll CALL to refuse to vote. The senate
was being brought into disrepute by
such a course.
The discussion on the point OF order
whether Allen should be recorded as
present when present and not voting,
engrossed the attention of the senate
today. Hill contended at great length
that the presiding officer had power to
quote a quorum. Morgan, democrat,
of Alabama, said that he was not sur
prised that the senator from New York
Child championed the rulings of the
speaker of the house, because he was
the unfortunate instrument, when he
presided over the senate of New York,
in the introduction of that heresy, not
only into the democratic party and it's
traditions, but also into the constitu-
tional rights of legislative bodies. Nor
gan went on to speak of Alliance and
coalition between certain democratic
senator's and certain republican SEN
ators," as being certain to disrupt the
party, and he asked whether his DEM
ccratic colleagues were willing to
strike the fatal blow. The coalition in
the senate had been created for the
defense of the national banks and for
sthe purpose of destroying the silver
money. Morgan proceeded to argue
against the position taken ty Hill,
which brought that senator to his feet.
Il first claim" said HILL "that 1t is
within the power of the presiding Off
Ger to determine the presence of a
quorum. My second proposition is that
there is no rule of the senate which
expressly, or even impliedly, forbids
that action"
On the question of cloture Morgan
defied the senators to establish that
rule. IF 1 must die here" said Nor
gan, in closing, II will die like an hon
cradle man at my post"
Hill said he had not expected to
convince the senators who had no re-
spect for the supreme court and who
were not willing to bow to its, decis-
ions. Hill then paid his respects to
Morgan. Its true" he said "that
there are politicians in New York" He
supposed that there were no politi-
clans in Alabama; they were all states
men from that country. 0aughter.)
TNt.er I.ol Ok I. Il.
devotion to the constitution. 81 sup
posed" said Hill, that for brief per-
iod my friend supported another con-
stitution, but l may be mistaken" AS
to Morgan's talk about dying at his
post Hill said he had heard like state
ments by men who We're "going to
die in the last ditch" but, said Hill,
there are many of them left" (Re-
newed laughter.) Referring to the re-
mark of Morgan complimentary to AL
len G. Thurman, Hill said he supposed
Morgan in making the tribute, had in
view all the record made by Thurman
in the senate. He then read from the
journal of the senate when on one
occasion, Thurman being temporarily
called to the chair, and certain sena-
tors refused to vote, he counted the
quorum The galleries vigorously ap-
plauded the recital of this action on
the part of Thurman, and Hill said:
There is a precedent which / ask this
body to initiate. There is one distin-
guished man whom propose to follow
rather than the lead Of the distinguish
ed senator from Alabama"
Sherman, of Ohio, then addressed
the senate. He said the rules of the
senate had been made to expedite pub
lie business in an orderly and proper
manner, and their object was to en-
able the senate to legislate.. But when
the rules were used by the minority to
obstruct legislation, the rules should
at once be altered. Whenever the mi
nority used a menas of obstruction
unduly it created a revolution. He
thought. therefore, that probably at
this session the time had arrived when
the senate must adopt rules to pre-
vent obstruction to public business.
The proper way to secure a limit of
debate was, at the next session OF
congress, to have the committee on
rules strengthened in numbers and to
have 1t examine all the various rules
and report one that would give the
minority full power to express their
opinion and prescribe a time when and
where the final vote could be taken.
If the present condition was continued,
the senate could no longer command
the respect Of active and intelligent
people. Sherman said that the respon-
sibility in the present situation rested
in the democratic side. Thre cor four
important matters demanded solu-
ton and the senate stood in the way.
"We ask our brothers on the other
side to consult each other. If they do
not like the presidents plan on silver
give US some other. and in Gods name
let us settle this important situation
for the people of our country"
Morgan asked il Sherman would vote
for the unconditional repeal of the en-
tire Sherman act. NO" replied Sher-
man emphatically "and no other man
who understands the subject would
do 1t, in my judgment" Morgan said
he intended to offer an amendment to
that effect soon.
In conclusion, Sherman said: Break
down this barrier now maintained by
the United States senate; break up
this insolent and violent obstruction