New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-01-31
A TALK BY MINISTER SMITH.
HE THINKS A DUAL PROTECTORATE A POS
SIBILITY.

HAWAII MUST SEEK AN ALLIANCE SOMEWHERE
THE pER'ovALITy OF THE QUEEN.
TpY TELEGRAPH To THE TRIBUNE.l
Washington Jan. 3O.-Hott Smith. the Hawaiian
Minister here under the Government just ovcrthrown
gave this afternoon interesting talk on the lla
waan situation which reflects. no doubt, the feeling
Of the more conservative representatives abroad Of
the dcposed Queen.
Il am sea-, said Mr.. Smith. "as to the future
movements OF the Hawaiian Commissioners who ar
rived In san Francisco saturday. one thing how
ever appears to be certain ard that IS that should
the United states Government fail 10 recognize
them they Will find themselves in an awkward
position. Like all rcvoutonists they take their
chances OF ultimate success In securing the recog-
nrion Of other nations. They represent the head and
front Of the advanced annexation party at the ISLANDS,
80 far ultimate annexation l. concerned uere
has always existed feeling. especially among the
white residents, that the Islands would eNehlUhiN
become "A part Of the United states, but that such
anal gamation would be the result OF diplomatic ne
eotaion and friendly rather than forcble union lhS
tim. has been precipltatcd as Is well known, by
the act Of the Queen in her cndeavor 10 advance
National influence and make 1t absolute
"Thc whites have been increasing. the natives
diving ont They have seen their country slipping
away from them. but instead OF attrbutlng IL I'd u'e
true reason they have attributed 1t to the ripaciN
| o
Of a growing sentiment OF years, but until now the
Government has been able to keep 1t down Per
sonallv | am unable to say whether this movement
Is "A National one or not. notice In tliS morhhe
d,patchc, that Mr. Castle thinks the native people
are content and willing to accept the situation
"But the Queen has her rights still, has she not ~
asked
YcS~ replied the Minister, she has. She was
overcome by force. The United states, In landing
| and cd mo
maintenance Of that force. she will appeal 10 thiS
| Government for the restoration Of her rights. De
,evc her agents are also on their way here
"IIow about the participation of foreign powers
in thi, controversy! -
~tr,tb England and Germany will probably at
once interest themselves, make their comments ana
criticisms and take whatcrr action they may tlhk
necessary 10 protect their interests. Germany ana
France Will probably pa>sivcly; but tihnK Eng
| land, action will be active and pronouh''u'
DO YOU think Engand would object to the annex
alton Of the island by our Government =
~Gving my opnion in this matter Just the same
rs any other man. will say that her interest MS
always been very strong at the l'iahdS' ho'i.0
this morning In the dispatches strong protests In the
| British press. l should say that hheaNu VIII ''
tainly object to the annexation g.,
! ~ Do YOU anticipate trouble-war. for instance-h
IN, United states ignored what England cohSiuereu
her righsl" o.
Il d, not care TO be quoted as to EnShho' pos
| ,ibe intentions. There will be, however, coh'oH'
,ratlon Of war vessels In Honolulu Haruor "1 o''
Ion,n which has 5000 people here, WIZ De repre-
,-n I'm, bor interests are comparatively slight
rr,io,I has already probably Dispatched her m'h-
,,vor n, have Germany and France Nhen tpS
all yet together there will be big poW-wo"' anu VI
cour,e condition, will BE- very different rom ho"
when the United state, alone is represented al
This connection IT should be borne IN mlhu '""' 'n
commercial and financial Interests are III ""''"
and hound in America which Will Offset cohSe-
,,ort,, tho sentiment generally Of the people Du'
,nnse fnct, will have no bearing with the other
powers .A -,
"a Assuming that England would object 10 'he "'',
ncxaton. do you think she would insist upon dual
protcctoratc with the United s'atT, o,vr n,cn @
S'r''' ,nL that would be- thr natural outcome of a
compromise There %i ne SIa' OVER tic matter
II /, the first instance of the KIND me ne' , t hr
had TO ds Ti'h ,ES X@f" faF for P PaHRcxaon '' he
I urai.si Of foreign powers. Consequently n'ei "a
at must decide whether It % "s1 nnt 's tS SG Whoe
ann nXaon ana u> P''oioio iN''
'"aS & ~ Thing i, certain. The Queen and Hawaii are
Wa Governncnt has been organized for over MY NJ,
S' II IN. rii,d STATE, rctu- to annex the lSihus'
do YOU think England would SGzr ta'm gnybnr in for
cilJr wav The Hawaiian Government, HoTrNsr'
wonld have sock an aance son"T .o.y fT haye ' TO
| .N.rfit.u II.
~ Tho protnction Of America or England ana II 'hc
Sormer turned cold shoulder one can 500 no T.'Sn r. %
,hn Enrlond should refliSn To assume >uch II ",
n,rl,lafinn was Of "A homogeneous people tn'S Co"iu
ustnin Themselves under the new form OF g9vrhn.' d
,, ,ioro ,re so many naOlalties that dVlsoiS. ds-
mite, and contentious would arise that would result III
T,m't,S"d The real difficulty all around VIII come
yrhnn the United states has gwen ltS dIsMi, MI, ~ ~,
com,n .Sinnr, and then tho serious WORK VIII pHi'''
'o ~, IN ,he Ounen II the United states anneAeS the
island. sh, would be- treated In way worthy ol neg
station and an allowance would probably ] 3r sIil,"i m !
| hcr knew her when she was young woman hu l
our relation, have ever since been n'>t c9rlai' iii
~ rrrs,nally "A pleasant and agreeable irehu, wei
,durn,d speak, English nucntly ana Is an eN'e.,m. r
| c,"v,rsatinnau,t She s now somewhat over MY
VA , =, nmitc stout When Il Young woman she was
considered good looking. Before 'uct''u,ns , ~ .n
Ir,nn .hc was fond Of society and paropatci ArgeY
m thn social entertainments OF Honolulu l'ur hlur'i
shc cutcrtainci considerably before she became e'Il
Tr .mhsc1ncnt affairs being. OF course most formal
nh arcordn. To court etiquette S'e has alwhN ;
id'I =, mo Washington Place her home aill'su
~ H poval Ialn,c and since kalhkam'S death She mas
II, d the Palace mainly for state ceremonies nnu @ AZ M
| r,ir, Personally the Queen was wei nKcl.' Du' d,
| tn hcr poca ASPIRATIONS the occurrences oi l'e "''
| few DAYS speak olly too plainly