The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1893-05-18
NEW STREET-CAR SCHEMES
Miller and Stout Promoting a Syndi.
cate to Build Suburban Lines.
President MssOn's Proposition for the Mar
row Streets Refusal OF Permission
to Cut the Payements-
ANOTHER SUBURBAN PROJECT.


Scheme TO Run n Line Northwest and One
tn BROAD Ripple.
A new force will enter the street-railwsy
situation within the next few days, and it
will be one which will be the means Of Sc
curing 10 Indianapolis one or more sub
urban railways. number of local gen.
tlemen have associated themselves TO-
gether for the purpose of securing the
building of them. and they will reach the
center of the city either BIZ the permission
OF the Citizens or the City Street-railway
Company. One of these lines will be to
Broad Ripple and another will run out IN
the direction of and past the cerealine
works.
George w. Stout and Hiram w. Miller
are at the head OF the project. and they ex-
poet TO push il TO successful completion
during the present. season. Last summer.
when the Citizens Street-railroad Com
paDy was fighting the granting of fran
chise to another syndicate to secure the
right of way for q road to Broad Ripple.
these gentlemen succeeded in gettlng prom
Ise from John p. Frenzel. who was then
the company's president, to build these
lines, providing bis company, instead of
the other, was given the right OF way out
Central avenue. which was the disputed
street. Messrs. Stout and Miller
agreed to help him In getting this
grant. and it was finally secured.
Mr.. Frenzel then built his road to the
State fair grounds aud the gentlemen were
left TO whistle for the lines they wanted.
Though defeated In their plans and aims
there, they have not deepaired of getting
them fulfilled some time and have seized
upon the present state of competition as
the means of doing so.
They have gone to the Citizens company.
rsked MP the old promise of Mr.. FrenZel
and asked the company If it would con-
slider itself bound by IT, They have also
gone to the City Railway Company and
told it that If 1t would agree to build the
lines and put them in operation they would
secure the franchise for 1t from the County
Commissioners. and they are now waiting
for the opposing forces to work.
The gentlemen have pull almost either
way it may be put. Mr.. Miller is connected
with the Indiana State Bank, of which
Sterling r Holt a director OF the Citizens
company. Is president. and MIR. Stout has
cousin who is q member of the Board OF
County Commissioners and who would
likely be agreeable to such an enterprise.
It 10 understood that matters will come TO
head within few days and that the gen.
tlemen Will go before the commissioners
with their request
Mr.. Stout was seen yesterday afternoon.
nD0 was asked WnetneT Tue TcpoTb w as tIuo
or not. He seemed very much surprised at
the question and answered 1t by asking an
other-"Wbere did you get such iDforma-
tion as thatp He then said: "les. il Is
true that such a thing has been talked of,
but il Is in rather q crude state as yet. We
want the lines out there, and we do not
care who builds them."
will one of them 20 to Broad Ripplei"
was asked.
81 am not interested in Broad Ripple at
ALL"
is not Mr.. Millers"
al don't know. We each have interests
in the north part of the city. and are anx-
ious to get rapid transit lines out that
way"
when do You expect to get the matter
before the County Commissioners
II do not know. AS | said, the matter is
still a little crude, and / cannot tell when
We will get it shaped No."
HAS either company given you any as
surance that 10 will build the roa6F
We'll, the matter has been talked over q
little"
Mr. stont declined to say anything more
definite. He said that he was willing to
have the matter agitated as much as pos
sible land If 1t Will get US the lines we
want you can give them fts," he said.
President Macon was asked yesterday IL
the matter had been broached to his COM
dany. No. he replied, mot directly. Mr..
Miller Is connected with Mr.. Hollis bank.
and there may have been something said
thore. In fact the matter has been talked
over by us as individuals" Mr.. Mason
said that he had driven all over the sub
lines. and that he thought il wonld only
be q little while until there would be such
a demand for rapid transit out there that
IL would have to be built.