The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1893-10-20

sGHdlOT lIOul i1OuLu SuEDIlLhI tHAb u q
majority refuse to compromise with
minority bill ought not to pass.
Mr.. Butler-And / repeat it.
Mr.. Hill-And there take issue with
the senator.
Mr.. Butler-I state that the minority
is clothed with the constitution and the
rules made in pursuance of it with
power to prevent the passage OF obnoX'
ious measures, and when the majority
has expressed itself in 4 constitutional
way. in accordance with the rules, then
/ submit it has the power and right to
pass measures and not till then.
Mr. Palmer-Does the senator believe
that the majority has right to vote for
u measure?
Mr.. Butler-That depends upon how
the majority behaves itself. laughter. i
/. Mr.. Palmer-Butt they cannot vote un'
less they accede to the plan OF the minor
ity.
Mr.. Butler-Yes, they can vote.
Mr. Palmer-When can |, as one OF
the senators from illinois, be allowed tc
vote?
Mr.. Mr.Butler-When debateis exhausted
Mr.. PaImer-Then understand this
to be the Interpretation OF the senator
from South Carolina that until the mi
nority consents the majority cannot
vote. The minority has the right. in
good faith. to exercise the fullest de.
bate, but deny that it has the right 10
debate for the purpose Of exhausting
time.
Mr.. Butler-Nobody has done that.
MIR. Palmer-lt has been claimed by
several that the minority had the right
to adopt obstructive methods.
Several senators uttered an emphatic
mo"
Mr.. Butler-Who is to determine
whether am an obstructionist?
THE GALLERIES APPLAUD.
Mr.. Palmer-First the senator him.
self, and second the majority Of the
senate. [Applause in the galleries.
Mr.. Harris, rising to question of or
der, said it was gross violation OF the
rules for occupants OF the galleries to
give expression to approval or disap-
proval.
The Vice President-Does the senator
move to have the galleries cleared?
Mr.. Stewart would.
Mr.. Harris-I will ii the oaense is re-
peated.
The Vice President admonished the
galleries to observe tho rules. announc-
ing that upon arepetition OF the ohense
he would order the galleries cleared.
When order was restored, Mr.. Butler
said: ~ am perfectly well aware that
under the rules OF this body, which the
senator from New York and the senator
from Texas are ready to trample upon,
cast aside and discard, and convert the
senate into town meeting, no applause
shall be allowed in the galleries, and ii
have been the means-nobody ap-
plauds me-but ii the friends OF the
senator from New York are gathered
here for the purpose OF expressing their
OF his methods, should
be very glad, Mr.. President, to in"ite
that senator out upon some street cor
ner, where he and can have it out Tor
the benefit OF the masses.
DUTLER CALLED TO ORDER.
Mr.. Manderson-F rise to point oi
order. 1 ask the enforcement OF the
rule that when a senator is called to
order, he shall take his seat.
Mr.. Butler-Does the senator cali me
to order?
MIR. Manderson-I do.
The vice president directed Mr.. But
Ter to take his seat. The language for
which Mr.. Butler was called to order
was then read by the official reporter,
Mr.. Shuey.
Mr.. Manderson realized that the de.
bate for the last few days had been char
acterized by degree OF personality un.
becoming senators who have INDUCED
in it and not betitting the chamber. lie
thought all that was necessary was that
in cool moments the senator from South
Carolina should hear the repetition .oi
the words he had used.
On motion OF Mr.. Harris Mr.. Butler
was allowed to proceed in order, and
said he had used the language in play
ful sense.
an Pickwickian sense" said Mr..
Hill.
"Yes that is n better expression"
Mr.. Butler said nothing was further
from his intention than TO say anything
He had not invited the sena.
tor to meet him on n street corner to
fight, but for the purpose OF q little
legitimate stump speaking.
Mr.. Butler then asked Mr.. Hill
whether he would be bound by the
rules in the proposition to amend the
rules.
After Mr.. Hill had said in mos.
significant way that "the senator from
South Carolina need not be impatient"
about the method to be pursued 10
bring about a change OF the rules, he
continued: 81 insist upon it that any
restriction in the rules where the ma.
iority are deprived OF power, and OF
making an amendment to the rules is
not binding upon the senate"
1.-THE position is this, then, said Mr.
Butler, Chat the rules are binding upon
the minority and do not bind the ma
jority."
THAT is not the position" replied
Mr.. Hil, tive cannot tie ourselves up
so that the majority has not the right
to amend the rules"
Mr. Butler-If the senator will par
don me We have tied ourselves up by a
code OF rules to which the senator sub.
scribed when he took the oath. Now,
/ understand the senator to say
that he is not bound by codo OF rules
except so far as it meets his approval" "
Mr. Hill-it We have, us the senator
says, tied ourselves up so We cannot
change the rules, then 1 propose to
unite the rules 20 that we can be per
mitted to change them.
Mr. Butler-How?
Mr. HiIl-By simply presenting at the
proper time and hour and place and oc'