The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1893-10-20

should hear the repetition OF the words he
had used.
on motion of Mr.. Harris. Mr.. Butler
was allowed to proceed in order. He said
he had used the language in a playful
sense.
I'm a Pickwickian sense" said Mr.. Hill.
"Yes, that is q better expression" Mr..
Butler said nothing was further from ms
intention than 10 say anything unkind. de
had not invited the Senator to meet him
on a street corner to fight. but for the pur-
pose of little legitimate stump speaking.
MIR. Butler then asked Mr.. Hill whether ne
would be bound by the rules in the propo-
sition TO amend the rules.
After Mr.. Hill had said in most slgnlll-
cant way that 1.-The Senator from South
Carolina need not be inpatient about the
method 10 be pursued TO bring about
change of the rules. ne continued IN
whereby the majority are deprived of the
power of making an amendment to the
rules is not binding upon the Senate
THE position is this, them" said Mr.. But
Ter that the rules are binding upon the
minority and do not bind the majority"
THAT is not the position replied Mr..
Hill. I'VE cannot tie ourselves up so that
the majority has not the right TO amend
the rules"
we have tied ourselves up by a code or
rules TO which the Senator subscribed when
he took the oath. Now, 1 understand the
Senator to say that he is not bound by a
code of rules, except so far as it meets his
approval"
Mr. Hiil-If we have. as the Senator says,
tied -. ourselves I've up -, we ,, ought to be per
Mr.. Butler-How?
HOW TO REACH A VOTE.
Mr.. Hill-By simply presenting at the
proper time, and hour, and place, and oc-
casion, to be Determined by the majority,
an amendment to our rules and then pro-
coed.
without notice." asked Mr.. Vest.
''As regulated by the majority" replied
Mr.. Hill, land then vote upon it. II the
majority desire to change the rule there is
no practical difficulty"
Mr.. Butler-Then / understand the SEN
change the rules, would disregard Rule 40.
in NH the at 9 fbe rh hye Ee eoson Of
the majority upon this question will de-
pend upon the attitude of the minority.
ator would not be bound by the rules in
proceeding to amend. but would amend
the rules according to the will of the ma
jority at any hour OF the day.
Mr.. Hill have said that the power 70
lchange the rules is a constitutional right.
1t overrides any particular rule.
Mr.. Butler-I am not asking what the
majority would do; I am asking what the
Senator from New York would do.
jority. hope BEFORE the debate is through
that a majority will be found by my side.
ready to insist upon, the constitutional m, !
carry out the provisions of the Constitu-
ton that vests the majority and not the
MT Trh the to esdiate
would be no objection; not the slightest.
have finally got the Senator from New
York to a point which, L confess, was
rather difficult. Oaughter)
Mr.. Stewart remarked that Mr.. Hill was
on the fence on the silver question, which
brought forth the reply from Mr.. Butler
that when the persuasive eloquence of the
Senator from Nevada had a little further
play the, New York Senator would drop
1v1a rel on l1n eli do lOb-
teri Mr.. Stewart modestly concurred in
this view.
which he answered in the Yankee fashion
of asking another, whether the Senator
from Massachusetts held that the Senate
could change its rules except under the
Mr.. Hoar-n there were a motion made
to amend the rules, and that motion were
presented to the presiding officer after de-
bate, or after what is called filibustering had
gone so far that in the opinion of the con-
stitutional presiding officer of this body,
who is chosen by the American people and
not by the Senate. and whose duty is pre-
scrbed by the Constitution, had reached a
point which implied to his mind that fur
Their discussion was intended to prevent ac-
ton, 1t would be in his power and would
be his duty 20 say to the Senate, shall
or diatory motions? and, thereupon, to
direct the yeas and nays TO be called. per-
hitting no man to interfere, and if a ma IA
his duty to put the question.
MIR. BUTLER GROWS FUNNY.
Mr.. Butler said that as fair man as
the Vice President was, he should resent
making him the depository of the power TO
say when debate should terminate, even
with his party in the majority, because it
was, in his opinion, subversive of the very
foundation principles upon which the gov
eminent was framed. Mr.. Butler, re-
ferring to the remarks of Mr.. Mills, that
he Cdills) and the Senator from Ohio CMr.
Sherman) would grasp hands on the pend
ing bill, drew a laughable picture of the
Senator from Ohio, whom ne characterized
as the arch enemy of silver, and the Sen
ator from Texas voluptuousiy eInDracing
are reached" Mr.. Butler said, ''if the gov
eminent gets over its paralysis, and when
the tariff bill for revenue only is reached,
If it survives that paralysis, how the Sem
ator from Texas will rush into the arms of
the Senator from Ohio and embrace him
again and again, because of the fact that
they had shaken hands across the financial
chasm." Naughter) But, Mr.. President,
the age of wonders and surprises will not
end with seeing me in the arms of the Sen
Texas in the arms of the Senator from
Ohio. We shall. hope. live to see a
tween the Senator from New York (Mr.
HID and the President of the United
States Gasughte;r2 , That would d be ,s,,
ering and loving it will be. daughter
A bucket of boiling hot water would not
separate them. We are going to have a
great many surprises of this kind. Ii
would not surprise me to see my venerable
friend from Nevada (Mr. StewarO rushing
up to the White House to embrace the
President. QLaughter) l think as long
as these love scenes continue there is no
danger of revolution or of the govern
ment stopping. / regard them as very
hopeful signs of the future" Mr.. Butler
closed with an appeal for a compromise.
Mr.. Palmer was about to address the
Senate when Mr.. Teller withdrew his mo-
ton to amend the journal, disposing of the
question pending before the Senate The
journal was approved and the repeal bill
was then taken up for the first time since
Monday.
Mr.. Henderson gave notice Of an amend
ment to the rules. 1t provides that II, upon
a vote by yeas and nays. 1t appears to
the Chair upon reorganization and before
the announcement of the result that a
quorum has not voted, he shall call upon
the Senators present and not voting by
name TO vote and shall direct the secre-
tary to add to the list OF Senator's voting
the names of Senators present and not
voting, including those announcing pairs,
or who may or may not have been excused
from voting, and to enter the same on the
journal.
Mr.. PETER then resumed his speech
against the bill begun on Friday. At 80;
o'clock the Senate, upon motion of Mr.
VOORHEES,, took a recess until 10 O'Clock
tomorrow morning.