The morning call., 1893-01-31
MUST TAKE IT.
Manifest Destiny of
Hawaii.
BRITAIN MAY BLUSTER.
But Annexation Grows in
Favor.
A RATHER WARY MINISTER.
Keeping the Fate of SaCkviIle
West in His Eye.
CALIFORNIA MEN COME OVERCAST
Harrison Was Behind Stevens, and the
Administration Will Surely Favor
the Islanders Petition.
CALIFORNIA MEN COME OVERCAST
SpeciaI to THE MORNING CALI.

WASHINGTON, Jan. S0-THE CALL CORE
spondent visited the British legation to-
night and attempted to gain some express
sion of opinion upon the question that Is
now absorbing public attention from Sir
Julian Pauncefote the British Minister.
lie was In bis study, and had apparently
been debating to his stenogTapher when the
correspondent entered. Several Western
Union telegraph aud cable envelopes were
lying upon his table. and a district telegraph
messenger boy had just left the house.
Sir Julian IS not an easy man to Interview
under any circumstances. He has dealt
very cautiously with press men ever since
he unwilllngly allowed himself to be inter-
viewed on the BeTing Sea matter while
riding on a streetcar on bis way from the
Capitol building one day. Pauneefote is a
typical Euglishman. He is portly. has
massive face bald head. beak nose.
forid con plexion and Burnsides, and he
looks exactly Ike the caricatures of John
Bull one sees in Puck and such comic papers.
The Minister greeted the correspondent
pleasantly. and surmiSinR what his mission
was said: You are not the first newspaper
man who has been here to see me. or
course the press must appreciate tie fact
tina; in an important matter like the pres
ent it would be msnifestly improper for me
10 say any hing in public print. Some of
my predecessors wero greatly embarrassed
by giving too free expression 10 their
views"
There can be little doubt that Sir Julian
referred here to the Sackville West
Nurchson letter.
''DO you regard the present condition Of
-.
United States. Great Britain or the Ha-
waiian Islands ?" he was asked.
Il will say I think this quite an impor-
tant matter" said he.
"Are you at hbarty 10 state whether or
not you have received from her Majesty
protest against the action of the United
States ship Bostons men during the So
called revolution ,"
Il cannot answer that question"
"Will your Government protest against
the proposed annexation of the Islands by
the United States G0verHment?"
Again l must decline TO answer" said
be. Y must know tha. so far we have
had nothing but newspaper reports for our
information. Later advices from Honolulu
Will give Us all better idea OF affairs there
Until we have more informOtion before Us
matter"
THE CALL correspondent endeaYored to
obtnin me information from per sons who
knew something Of Mr. Panucefote's affairs,
and was told that Pauncefote had received
By cable long message from England, pre-
sumably from Queen Victoria or her Prime
Minister. THE CALLS informant was not
able. or if able refused to say what the na-
ture of this communication was. but it is
believed that it contains a protest either
against the action of the Boston's COM
mander in sending blue jackets ashore OF
else it is a protest 10 advance againstau
alton. 1t will probably be presented to
morrow.
The Hawaiian Minister, Mott Smith. talks
to press men with surprising freedom. He
said tonight: Il am at sea concerning the
movements of the commissioners from
Hawaii Provisional Government One
thing, however, appears to be certain, and
that is should the United States Govern
ment fail to recognize them they will find
themselves IN an awkward position. Like
all reyoIutionists they take their chances OF
ultimate success il securing the recognition
Of other nations. Tley represent the head
and fr, nj OF the advanced annexation party
on the islands.
so far as ultimate annexation is con-
cerned there has always existed feeling.
especially among the white residents, that
the Stands would eventually become a part
Of the United States. But the belief has
been that such amalgamation would be the
result Of diplomatic negotiation and friendly
rather than f0rcible union. The whites
have been Increasing and the natives dying
out They have seen their country slip
ping away from them. bat instead of at
tributing it to the true reasons they have
attributed it to the rapacty Of the whites.
This revolution has been the outcome Of the
growing sentiment of years, bat until now
the Government has been able to keep 1t
down. Personally l am unable to say
whether this movement Is a national one or
not Inotice in this mornings dispatches
that Mr.. Castle thinks that the native peo-
pie are content and willing to accept the sit
uatlon."
Assuming that England would object to
annexation, do you think she would insist
upon a dual prolectorate with the United
States ever the islands similar to the
tripartlte treaty over Samoa?" Mr.. Smith
was asked.
L think that would be the natural out
come Of a COMPROMISE. There will be
great amount Of diplomatic conference and
negotiation over the matter. 1t is the first
instance Of the kind the United States has
ever had to deal with-that the people
Of another country voluntarily asked
for annexation against the protest of for
eign powers. Consequently the United
States must deelds whether it will assume
the risk of annexation and its possible re-
suits. That is the whole thing In nut
shell. One thing is eertaln-the Queen and
Hawaii are not TO be wiped out without a
struggle. The Government has been or
Ranized for over fifty years, and has always
been able to take care Of ITSELF"
IF the United States refused to annex
the Islands. do you think England would
seize them?"
81 don't think England viii attempt force
The Hawaiian Government, however, would
have to seek an alliance somewhere. If
refused annexation il would probably have
TO ask protection of America or England,
and if the former turned the cold shoulder
one can see no reason why England should
refuse to assume control II the population
was Of a homogeneous sort. it could sustain
itself under a new form Of government, but
there are so many nationalities that divi-
siOns, disputes and contentious would arise
that would result In boodshed. The real
difficulty all around will come when the
United States has given its answer to the
commissioners, and then the serious work
will begin. As to the Queen, If the Unite1
States annexes the Islands she would be
treated in way worthy of her station an1
will probably be granted an allowance"
"But the Queen has her rights still, has
she nOt?" he was asked.