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The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

Messrs Barrow and Osborne. He SAYS
that Barney was 1923 years Old an intel
hgeut, quick. active and vigorous boy.
and that he was entitled 20 his services
until he had reached the age of 2l The
services Of his son, he says, were his
property right. and he alleges that they
were worth $500 annually and that they
were increasing in value from year TO
year.
He says that his sons death was the
result Of carelessness on the part Of the
employees of the company, and that no
notice of their approach TO the square
was given when they entered it. For
these reasons he asks that damages be
awarded him1in the above sum.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
NOTICE IN ADMIRALTY.

TINTED STATES OF AMERICA EAST
- ERIN DIVISION OF THE SOUTHERN Dis
TRICT OF GEORGIA, IN ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
a libel in Rem has been filed on the seventh
day OF September instant in the District
Court Of the United States for the Southern
District OF Georgia by II NJ. Conner as Re-
ceiver, Ocean steamship Company OF Savan-
nah, ct. al. against the Schooner Joseph
Souther, her tackle, apparel and furniture
and cargo of lumber now lying AT Savannah, in
the said district, and against all persons law
fully intervening for their interests therein,
in u cause OF salvage, civil and maritime, for
reasons and causes in the said libel men
toned and praying the usual process and
monltion in that behalf TO be made; and that
all persons claiming any interest therein may
be cited TO appear ana answer the PREMISES
and that the said Schooner Joseph Souther,
her tackle, apparel and furniture and cargo
of lumber may be condemned ana sold TO pay
the demands of the ltbellant. And, whereas,
a warrant OF arrest has been issued on the
said seventh day Of September under the seal
OF said court. commanding me to attach tho
said Schooner Joseph Souther, her tackle,
apparel and furniture and cargo OF lumber,
and to give due notice to all persons claiming
the same TO appear ald answer, and make
claim thereto.
Now, therefore l do hereby give public no.
tioe to all persons claiming the said Joseph
Souther, her tackle, apparel and furniture
and cargo of lumber or in any manner inter-
ested therein, that they be and appear at the
clerks ONCE OF the district court Of the
United States for the Southern district Of
Georgia, in the city Of Savannah, on Friday,
the sixth day Of October next. A. ID. 1893, at
10 o'clock, in the forenoon Of that day, then
and there 10 interpose their claims, and TO
make their allegations in that behalf.
Dated at savannah Georgia, this Goth day
FRANK LEVERETT,
United States Marshal Southern District of
Georgia. by w. A. BUCkNER,
LAYTON & CUNNINGHAM, Deputy.
ProctOrs for Llbellant.
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HAzING DENOUNCED.
The Students of the South Carolina
College Pass a Resolution.

Columbia, s. c., Oct 4-The students
of the South Carolina College have
passed following resolution: 1--WE re-
gard the practice of fresh1ng, or hazing,
in any form as detrimental to the highest
interests of the college and inconsistent
with the dignity aud manliness that
should characterize the student and gen
tleman. We pledge ourselves to abstain
from such practice and to discourage it on
the part of those to come after US"
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
7, II. oMEIH,
Observer Weather Bureau.
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF Agriculture,
WEATHER BUREAU,
Savannah, Ga, Oct. 4, 10 p. m.
WEATHER SYNOPSIS.

The maximum temperature at Savannah
to-day was So, and the minimum go, the
mean temperature being 76s, or s. above
the normal. The temperature has fallen
q to a. in Eastern Georgia and along the
Georgia coast, A. to g. in Alabama, A. to
So in Middle North Carolina and along the
coast, s. in Eastern Mississippi, g. to 16o
in the Middle Atlantic states, 4 to 160 in
the lower lake region, and % to A. in Ne
braska Elsewhere the temperature has
risen % to u or remained stationary The
Gulf. storm centers tonight of the North
Carolina coast east of Hatteras.
Cloudiness and rain continue along the
coast from Boston to Wilmington. Else
where generally fair weather prevails
The barometer is highest in Western
Pennsylvania and lowest 10 Southwes-
tern Kansas.
The following heavy rainfalls are re-
ported; Blackville, IS. c., 1.50 inches
and St, Georges, S. c., 100.
p. II. SMYTH,
Observer Weather Bureau.
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The proprietor Of an English magazine Of
fered prizes Of s25 10 persons predicting with
the greatest accuracy the number Of hours Of
sunshine and the number Of hours Of rain for
the ensuing week. he was arrested ana lined
tl-a The Judge rolling that the competition
was meTely form " lollefy.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

NtlJ az L sOu p IL
The schooner Leila Smith which was
ashore AT Tybee, and was badly injured
by being blown through the Tybee wharf,
has been successfully tloated and is now
on WillinR's marine railway for repairs.
1t was found that her keel was greatly
damaged and there are several holes in
her bottom. The excellent work of f. a.
Won Eiberstein, the diver, in stopping the
leaks so as to float the vessel, is highly
commended, as the job was very diff
cult one. A survey will be held upon the
vessel by the post wardens to-day.
The schooner Precilla A. Scribner,
Capt. Davis, from Philadelphia, arrived
yesterday with a cargo of coal and plaster
for the Southeastern Plaster Company.
The vessel is consigned to Geo. Harriss
q Company,
Capt Olsen of the Norwegian bark
Pasto, which arrived Tuesday from Lon
aon, reports that on Aug. "a, lat. 260 20 g,
long. 33' 3d., the first mate adolf Ander-
sem fell overheard during the hurricane
and was drowned Sept. Z, lat. pa "a n.
and long. 400 06' w, he passed the Brit
ish bark Catherine of Yarmouth, Nova
Scotia, loaded with lumber, waterlogged
and abandoned; sails hanging loose, boats
gone. He supposed the crew had left in
them. On Sept. Is, in lat. go As n, long.
55' so w, he signaled the iron German
bark showing r. H. N. I. from B. S. c. H.
for New York thirty days out, all well.
Sept, "A, in lat % 35' N, long. 81 40 w,
he passed a wreck waterlogged, foremost
gone, jibboom and rigging dragging
alongside. The vessel had heavy round
stern. The name was painted in white
between two white lists, but Capt. Olsen
could not read it on account of darkness.
The schooner Annie E. Bliss, Capt
Berry, from Baltimore, arrived yesterday
with cargo, consisting Of oil for the
Tide Water Oil Company and Standard
Oil Company and coal for @. H. Dixon &
Co. The Bliss had a long and tedious
trip, having left Baltimore on Sept. 5 and
was compelled to lay at anchor in Hamp-
ton Roads until Sept 10, when she went
to sea. The headwinds, which prevailed
during the past month, drove her in the
gulf stream, where unfavorable weather
kept her until about Sept 25. Consider
able apprehension was felt about her
safety, but she arrived in good condition,
and the captain, although regretting his
hard luck, is delighted at having safely
arrived and trusts to get a quick dispatch
and make up for lost time on his return to
Baltimore with cargo of lumber.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
Phillips, pigestible Cocoa

Makes very delicious and nourlshing drink
1t is particularly adapted for persons OF weak
digestion, differing therein from all other
cocoas on the market. Once tried always used
-ad.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
LEGAL NOTICES.

GEORGIA, CHATHAM COUNTY. Whereas,
" Fred w. Clarke has applied TO Court OF
testamento annexo on the estate OF MARY
M. CLARKE, deceased.
These arc therefore, to cite and admonish
all whom 1t may concern TO be and appear be-
fore said court TO make objection on any they
haYel on or before the first Monday In Mo-
yember next, otherwise said letters will be
granted.
Witness the Honorable HAMPTON l.. FER
RILL, Ordinary for Chatham County, this the
4th day Of October, 1893.
FRANK h. KEILBACH,
C1erll O. O @. q
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
GIVEN A WEEKS GRACE.
@Ae Council Postpones Hearing the
Appealed Cases.

AFIHN1bU OdS9ts
Inc special meeting of council called
.or last night was not held, on account Of
.le absence Of City Attorney Adams
ron The city,
nj Inc meeting was called for the purpose
IN atlug appealed cases and Mayor Nc
enough was not inclined to proceed to
1-. nearing without the presence of the
Ivy attorney Mr.. Adams is in Wash
ION no attendance upon the hearing Of
ill., central railroad cases before Justice
t-I..Ne OF the appealed cases win be
mn up Wednesday night at the regular
a. .lhg of council, and special session
l..l.iN'll VIII Zoe held the Wednesday
'0"4Ag 10 hear the remainder.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
SUED FOR $4,000.

The Father Of Louis Bluestein Wants
That From the Electric Railway.
Louis Bluestein, the father Of young
Barney Bluesteiu, who was killed In Lib
erty square on Sept. 26, by car No 70 OF
the Electric Railway Company, entered
suit against that company IN the clty
court yesterday for the sum Of 5000.
The suit was hlcd Dy his attorneys
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
ROuMS WANTED.
ROOMS TO RENT.

HUUMo ~ hENI.
I ARGE well furnished rooms; single and
IL double, with board, at 1853 South Broad
street.
NOR RENT. fat Of three connecting rooms
Il on parlor floor; piazza bath. gas and
water Desirable location, within few min
utes walk Of business portion. Address q,
News office.
NOR RENT, basement, parlor floor and
4 upper floor Of 1874 Liberty street. j. e.
Fulton L. Son, SO Bay street.
UNFINISHED rooms gas and bath; terms
II reasonable; private family. 40 Haber-
sham street.
NOR RENT few nice large rooms every
Il convenience. 65 Jefferson street, corner
OF Perry.
TIOR RENT, a fat Of rooms gas and
II bath, carpeted and partly furnished,
l40H York street.
ITO RENT, nicely furnished front room.
i For terms apply to 80 Gordon street.
NOR RENT, pleasant furnished rooms In
II private family. Apply 81 Liberty.
NOR RENT two fats over LaFars store.
Il No. 1872 BrOughtOn street. can be rented
either separately Or together. rent very mod
crate. Apply 10 WalthOur Rivers, agents,
1903 81. Julian street
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

SpORE No. So Fast Broad. Easy terms 90
- acceptable tenant, Choice stand for gro
Gerry. Vacant LIST October W. }. Harry.
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ALONG THE RIVER FRONT.
Items Gathered Here and There
Among the Shipping.

Joseph A. Roberts & Co, cleared yester-
day the schooner Charles e. Young for
Philadelphia with 3S2, S74 feet of lumber,
shipped by f. b. Hunting & Co.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

The barkentine Reigate is off the ma
rine railway, whore she was hauled to
have her bottom examined. She was
found to be uninjured, and will proceed
to load.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
A LIVELY DEBATE IN COUNCIL.

Inc mayor OF COLUMBUS Against the
Election of a Recorder.
Columbus, Ca, Oct. Am exciting
session of the city council was held to-
night, the discussion being on the re-
introduction of an ordinance creating the
Office Of recorder, which was lost at
former meeting. Tonight the mayor
ruled that the ordinance could not be
legally introduced until next years SEES
sion. An appeal from the decision of the
chair resulted in 9 ayes and 3 nays It
was political as well as a parliament
larry skirmish, and both sides claim
victory
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

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The Discovery is the only gltGrdl1-
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TRY DIR. SaQe's Remedy for your Catarrh.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
EMPLOYMENT WANTED.

AN experienced shipping clerk and book
IA keeper wants position. Address
w. de Bruyn Hops, 76% Bay street.
DOSITION by competent stenographer.
i Small salary acceptable Address, j.,
Box 40, WinnsboFo. s. @.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

The dredge Tomochichi is at work dig
ging out the channel in the river opposite
the cotton exchange
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

The pilot boat Mecca is on Jones' marine
railway to be overhauled and painted.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
NOTICE.

A LII persons having claims against the
IA estate OF ALETHIA ANN BURROUGHS,
deceased are hereby notified to present them
within the time prescribed. duly verified ac-
cording to law; and all persons indebted to
said estate will make immediate payment to
John w. Burroughs attorney at law, lO7 Bay
street. JOSEPH II. BURROUGHS,
Savannah, Ca, Oct. A. 1893 Executor.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

The schooner Precilla A Scribner,
Capt. Davis, from Philadelphia, arrived
yesterday with cargo of coal and plaster
for the Southeastern Plaster Company.
The vessel is consigned to Geo. Harriss
q CompanY. -.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
HELP WANTED.


WANTED, at 1863 South Broad din
w ing room maid; must be experienced
waitress.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

Observations taken at the same moment OF
time at all stations for the MORNING NEWS;
SAVANNAH. oct. 4, 5 2. NJ, city time.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

L0aI

L OST, a white male setter pup, almost
IL grown, has black ears, one ear tipped
with white one eye with white eyelashes
Answers to name OF Sport Liberal rew1rd II
returned TO Julian Schley, l16 Bryan street.
I OST, black waterproof coat bearing the
IL name Of the maker. Rogers, Peet & Co.
New York, B." on the inside OF collar. The
finder will be rewarded by returning it to 1866
Hull street
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

A SPARAGUS plumosus, the handsomest Of
IA all ferns. will last for weeks, fronds and
plants in any quantity. Cuthowers and floral
designs a specially. Headquarters at
Strong s Pharmacy, near De Soto. George
Wagner, Florist Thunderbolt road, tele-
phone 405
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

On oial Record for the Morning News.
Local forecast for Savannah and vicinity
till midnight, Oct. 8 1893: Fair; cooler
Thursday a. m; northwest winds, becoming
variable.
Official forecast for Georgia. Fair, warm err
winds shifting to south.
Comparison OF mean temperature at Savan-
nah, Ca, on Oct. a, 1893, with the normal
for the day
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

Try DR.. sage's Remedy for your Catarrh.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
CHEAP ADVERTISING.
ONE CENT A WORD.

ADVERTISEMENTS, Is Words or mere,
In this column inserted for ONE GENT A
WORD, Cash in Advance, each insertion.
Everybody who has any want TO supply, Nny-
thing to buy or sell, any business or accom-
modations TO secure; indeed, any wiah 20
crafty, should advertise in this column.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

The steamship City of Macon, Capt
Lewis, is appointed to sail for Boston TO-
day at 1880 p. m.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
MISCELLANY OUS.


GHOES repaired while you wait II required,
- and made to order, by T. l. Okarma,
the leading shoemaker, 90 Broughton street.
under Marshall house Branch, 73 Whitaker
street, near Liberty.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

DEFORE you BUY or sell property consult
ID Robert H. Tatem Real Estate Dealer,
No. Bull street
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
HOUSES AND STORES FOR RENT.

NOR RENT. from Isl October. house 30.
II 1854 Duffy street. totweeu Bull and
Draytou. All modern couVeuieuces aud % be
put in thorough order Apply % Champion
q Germany ils Bryan street.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
REAL ESTATE.
EDw. W. BROWN. WIN. LAzARoN.
EDW. w. BROWN & co.
Real Estate Dealers and Auctioneers,

OFFER FOR SALE:
Magnificent new s-room residence on north.
west corner Duffy and Abercorn. Very rea-
sonable.
No. I76 Duffy street, almost new, on large
lot $500
Beautiful Groom residence on Henry street
for 81 500.
Splendid residence on Duffy street, near
Abercorn. Very cheap
Ditmersvile lots for sale very cheap.
Lots at SouthOver Junction. Make offer.
Brownsville house and lot almost given
away.
SO Harris street. Examine this and give US
a call.
Seven lots on East Broad and st. Johns
streets to best offer
38 Randolph street, rents for 81 per month.
Make offer.
A well established drug business in best
location in the city Of Savannah VIII sell
stock, fixtures and good will at "A great bar
gain TO cash purchaser. Call for particulars.
EDW. w. BROWN & co.
Real Estate Dealers and AuctiOneers,
1O7 BAY STREET. PHONE 567,
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05
LEGAL SALES.
CRY M4RsHAL's SALE.

CITY MAHsHALs OFFICE,
SAVANNAH, GA, OCT. ,, 1898.
I WILL sell at auction at city pound, be-
tween the lawful hours Of sale on FRI.
DAY oct 8, 1898, two ~ male goats. said
goats having been impouned, three 90 days
and not claimed.
Terms OF sale spot cash.
ROBERT J. WADE,
City Marshal
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LEGAL NOTICES.

-~~~~~~-~-~~~---~-~-~--~~ ------~-~~~>~-~-----~
NOTICE To DEBTORS AND CREDITORS.
GEORGIA. CHATHAM COUNTY Notice is
~ hereby given TO all parties having de-
mands again SO Eliza hender, on 20 present
them to the undr ID, properly made out,
within the time prescribed by law, so as to
show their character and amounts and all
persons indeb e - said deceased are hereby
required to make immediate payment to me.
h. j. MUM, M. D.,
Executor OF the Last WIN and Testament OF
Eliza Henderson, Deceased.
Savannah. Sent. 10 lslA.
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

WANTED, a bright young man, quick and
w accurate at ngures, willing TO work /;
must write good hand; bring letters Ar
mour Packing 90.
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IGOR RENT, house 80 Habersham street;
A hot and cold water s25 per month, }. r.
Fulton & son, 90 Bay street
The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1893-10-05

WANTED, a messenger boy about 10 years
w old, Apply at Bradstreet's, over South
ern Bank
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ENOR RENT, large house, 10 Broughton
\ street near Abercorn. j. T.. Fulton &
Son. Q3 BAY street.
Waterbury evening Democrat., 1893-10-21
Rira LIE In London.

The rocks, after an absence of some
years-how many we cannot really COM
init ourselves to say-have returned to
Kensington gardens and established q
hourishing little colony of some II nests
in the trees on the west side of the
broad walk, between the old banqueting
hall and the Bayswater road. 1t is Gu
rious that the bird population of London
seems still to be undergoing process Of
change, some species being largely on
the increase, while others are decreasing
in numbers, or have quite recently dis
appeared. The wood pigeons afford the
most noticeable example of increase in
numbers, as they are now fully estab-
hshed, not only in ths parks, but also in
many of the squares which have trees
suitable for them to build in, and they
have extended their range well within
the city boundary.
They may always be seen in Palace
yard, Westminster, and for the fourth
year in succession pair are nesting in
the elm tree over the fountain at the end
of Great George street. Blackbirds and
thrushes, though by no means so notice
able as the pigeons, are certainly on tha
increase in the parks, owing, no doubt,
in great measure to the fact that many
Enclosures planted with shrubs have
been made of late years. They are far
from uncommon Indeed one morning
not long since we saw no less than five
cock blackbirds engaged in tusslc I'LL
der the trees near the flower walk III
Kensington gardens. Tits of two species
the great tit and the blue tit-have
lately been largely on the increase IN
Eensington gardcns.-LOndon Saturday
Hpyipw
Waterbury evening Democrat., 1893-10-21

\ DEMOCRAT who has the future welfare
and success of his party in view, regard
less of his own personal opinion on the
silver question, can find little that is
pleasing in the controversies that have
taken place this week between democratic
senators who occupy opposite positions, on
the Voorhees, bill. The language used by
democratic senators towards each other
was such as should not be used upon tie
floor of the senate, even towards political
opponents, except under great provoca-
ton, and it certainlyIdid not improve the
chance either of passing the Voorhee. bill
as it is or for amending it. In fact, about
the only thing accomplished by these dis
plays of temper was to furnish the re-
puLEcans with bundle of very stout
clubs, which they will not fail to use in
the future upon democratic heads.
Waterbury evening Democrat., 1893-10-21

There is greater individual freedom in
Great Britain and her colonies than in
America. For instance, every Sunday
small knots of men may be seen in the
principal London parks, giving expires
sion to the most varied sentiments on
matters political, social and religious,
and language painful to the great major
ity of the people is constantly being used.
No restriction is ever placed on such ex-
pressions of opinion, so long rs they are
uttered ON sites designated by the police,
where there can be no obstruction to
traffic or danger of intimidation being
exercised. In America, however, no
meetings of any kind are permitted in
these open spaces.
In Central park, New York, no one
may even pick up a leaf without danger
of fine or imprisonment. No one may
walk on the grass unless he is playing n
game. 1 barely escaped arrest for walk
ing on the carriage drive. The police
march about with their batons out
often swinging them-and appear to re
gard themselves more as the masters
than the servants of the people.-Earl OF
Meath in Nineteenth Century.
Waterbury evening Democrat., 1893-10-21

MAJOR ISAAC B, BROWN of Harrisburg,
Pa, has made probably the last capture of
a confederate flag with which history will
ever deal He was wandering through the
transportation building at the Worlds fair
when he saw the locomotive General
which was captured by Andrews raid dur
ing the civil war. Hoisted from its six
foot staff fastened to the steam escape was
a conferderate flag. Major Browns blood
boiled within him. That flag meant to
him treason, rebellion and human slavery.
He could not bear to see it floating there
high above the stars and stripes and he
climbed boldly up to the top of the loco
motive, broke off the staff and carried the
reasonable emblem away. He says he did
not feel like returning to the comrades of
his post to tell them that he had seen a
confederate flag on the old locomotive
without at least attempting to tear it down
He says he has no particular hostility to
the men who carried the flag during the
war, but he cannot see why anyone twenty
eight years after the war should deliberate
" display n rebel flag in the loyal state OF
Illinois, or indeed anywhere else.