New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-12-08
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A SORE POINT WITH THEM
DEMOCRATS AND HA AWAIL
DISCUSSION OF THE SUBJECT CHOKED OH
IN THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
THE EXPECTATION is THAT THE PREsIDENx
WILL GIVE THE INFORMATION DEMANDED
DIFFICULTIES WHICH MINISTER Will
LIS HAS PROBABLY ENCOUNTERED.
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HAS PROBABLY ENNOt NlEhED.
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Washington. Dec 7-President Cleveland did
not comply to-day with the Senate reCnest TOT
the transmission Of Minister Ws's Instructions
the amount OF copying to be done In the state
Department to meet the scope or Mr. hoars reso-
luton Of yesterday making so prompt response
practically impossible The Senate IN conse'
ouence adjourned until Monday next, so that at
least four days will elapse before the AdmihiS
trations programme is made public. unless to-
morrow's steamers bring conclusive news Oh
monarchical restoration in Hawaii. The fact
that the revenue cutter Corwin started only =
day or two ago from San Francisco with fresa
orders for Minister Willis makes it highly I'M
probable. however that any decisive steps nave .
vet been taken to restor, Queen Liliuokalani 70
"her own" and the general feeling in Washing
ton now is that the President. when he sends
his message on Hawaii TO Congress, VIII ma
some means to disavow the Gresham programme
of forcible restoration, as not long ago ne ais
avowed the silver purchase compromise con"
cocted with the aid and countenance or secretary
Carlisle.
The chief interest in the Hawaiian question at
the Capitol to-day centred in the House or rep
,asentatives where there was long and lively
session Of the Committee on Foreign Anairss
II was known that Mr. Hits comprehensive
resolution requesting the President to communi-
cate to the House OF Representatives copies OF
all the instructions given to Paramount Biouns
and Minister Willis, together with all reports ana
other documents and memoranda received from
them and all other correspondence ana ooeu-
ments sent from or received at the State Depart-
ment relating to Hawaiian affairs between March
2 1S93 and the present time. would be considered
,hopt
the committee to begin it's session every one OF
tho six Republican members was in his seat.
Tho Democratic members on the contrary, were
sloxv n arrive. and some time was spent In get
ting enough of them togeth r to outvote the He-
rub,cans This was at last accomplished. ana
then fun began
DEMOCRATS WANTED TO WAIT.
T, coon became apparent that Chairman Mo-
c,roarv and his Democratic colleagues were de-
teruined to postpone action as long as possible.
Wbether this course had been suggested py tne
President or any member Of his Cabinet az
one that would be desirable could not be learheo'
hut Chairman McCreary's statement that ne ie's
authorized to say that all the facts reiatihs !"
the Hawaiian matter would be ofncialy co"-
municated to the House of Representatives "a
coon as possible furnishes ground for the peheh
that such was the fact.
In reply to this statement, II Is uhuers'oo"
Mr. Hit suggested that Congress hao Dee"
nromptly advised of all the facts IN reiauon "
the Hawaiian matter down to the eno OIL '"e
last Administrations that nine months nave
o,ons.d since that time, during three OF which
Congress was in session. and that as soon q"
possible" seemed to mean period OF indehnits
duration. according to the dictionary OF tho
rresent Administration, within which pe1oo
many things might happen that Congress ana
rho country would not approve. Mr. HIT eA-
,rassed his surprise that there should De any
objection whatever to immediate acton upon =
resolution of inquiry. Within the comparatively
short time that he had been memoer oi "s
House of Representatives at least hu"oie.
such resolutions had been favorapiy repo''e~
from, the committed all Of them, so far as nc
could remember. without objection. and had peen
promptly adopted by the House.
In further reply to the suggestion that 'no
House Of Representatives would soon be placed
in possession of all the facts, Mr.. Hit saio
that in that case the resolution could at least
do no harm.
Is THERE SOMETHING TO CONCEALf
Messrs Van Voorhis, OF New-forK' S'oreE
and Draper. who took a prominent part III ths
discussion amplified the arguments OF MI H'.s
ora advanced some additional ones Mr.. Blair
axpreSSed the nope tndt Nhc
had nothing to conceal in regard to its action IN
the Hawaiian matter. and, 1t Is said intimateo
that the opposition to the immediate ADOPTION
of the resolution might lead some persons 10
susnoct that that might be the case. This inti.
,,atior was resented by members OF the ma
iority as an unjust one.
Refore the discussion was ended the nour Oh
noon arrived and Chairman McCreary suggested
an adjournment. but Mr.. Hit called at.eh'io"
to the fact that the committee haa oee" "N
tborized by the House to sit during the SESSIONS
Of that body, and therefore that the situ"s
,,,cbt continue until 5 o'clock II the committee
should so determine. ThereupoD the chairi'a"
Withdrew his suggestion. Flnaliy MI "ea''
called for a vote on his motion TO postpone iui
thor consideration of Mr.. Hits resolution un-
~ -, r,osdav and Mr. Van Voorhis asked
for the yeas and nays. The roll was caiied ana
49,, ,,ot,or was carried every Democrat pres
emf voting for it and all the hepuo"'""'
! against it.
SPECIAL MESSAGE POSSIBLE.
II was reported at the Capitol TINS at'er"oo"
that tho President would send speclai Heseae'
on the Hawaiian matter to Congress ho' ia,e.
,ha, Mondav. and this was assigned 'as the
reason why Chairman McCreary ana MS Deino
| cratic colleagues fought so hard To-Day " p'e'o
| none action upon Mr.. Hits resolution.
This morning Minister Thurston haa d" '".e'
view with Secretary Gresham wh'cn '"".se
,,ucb longer than the usual diplomatic con-
| ferences at the State Department Whiie Mihis-
tor Thurston de lined to speak of the particular
subject discussed, 1t is generally believed tnas
| ,ha obiect of his visit to learn the exact
nnt,,ro @ of Minister Wilis's instructions IL -
unown that Mr. Thurston has repeatedly aske~
to he informed as to the extent to when Mi.,s ,s
,er willis was directed to go In carrying OUT @ .no
| '.etm;nistration 'ei programme OF monarchicai res
toration in Hawaii and the assumption Is reasom
able that during to-days interview qussuv"ss cues rs
| pIrasumabIv secretary Gresham declined to com.
pIy with the request OF Minister Thurs.on s }qss
as as he has on previous occasions In iac.' .;s.
wallis diplomatic representative sarv nas Gresham