New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-07-06
THE STATES CIVIL SERVICE.
CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN GOVERNOR
FLOWER AND THE COMMISSION.
TIE NUMBER OF ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF THE
LAW LARGELY EEDUCED-FURTHER LEGIS-
LATION ASKED FOR

TIE NUMBER OF ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF TIE
LAW LARGELY EEDUCED-FURTnER LEGIs-
LATION ASKED FOR.
Albany July 5-Thc State Civil Service Commission
met to-day and was In session for seycr: hours
The committee of the New-York State Civil Service
Reform League which had been appointed to in
vcsgae violations Of the State Civil Service laws was
not present although the members Informed that
the Commission would hold meeting to-day Instead
n letter fro m the committee received asking that
the Commission meet the committee at later date
Commissioner McKinstry said that to-day was the
earliest tine when a meeting Of the Commission
could have been called ut which Governor Flower
could attend hut since the &C mmittce wished a post
poncment, the Commission had Mt today's meeting
addressed n communication 10 the committee oil, ring
to meet its members here on any day during the
week beginning July Is which the committee might
name.
Mr. McKn,try says the statement that the Com
mission had paid no attention TO the complaint made
Ly the league Of violations Of the Civil Service Laws
WAS not true the committee OF the league had
been informed that the Commission would meet 1t to-
day.
chief Examiner Carnody. Of the Commission. was
at the meeting today authorized TO investigate al
logged violations OF the Civil Service laws in Rothes
ter.
The following correspondence has been given out
STATE Of New-York. Executive Chamber.
Albany July ;. 1898
To the Cl,n Service Commission Albany. y. Y.
Gentlemen observe In the public charges Of
pontncnts departments In violation Of the Civil
Service law a. To competitive examinations.
VIII You inform whether any appointment" have
been made contrary 10 the law when such appoint
mcnt-. II any, were mad; how many Of such appoint
there arr, and such other information and sug
cc-on, relative thereto you may deem necessary to
full understanding Of the present operation Of the Law
desire To have the Ci,n Service law we'll as all
faithfully administered during incumbency OF
the Executive Office. louis truly,
ROSWELL L. FLOWER.
New.York Clyil service Commission,
Albany, July D. 1893.
To Governor.
Your communication Of the 9Th +, received and In
desire To that The matters therein lclefie1
had our consideration since the formation
present Commission In the early part OF the pes
wear. At nr-t meeting discovered that there
cXl,ci III seeming Violations under schedule ID ana
number under schedule, Il and c 81 the CIVIL Service
rulc, subsequent investigation showed that most Of
these violations had existed lar long time. some OF
them q, early a, IssG. Many Of tn violations
had grown up through ignorance or ni,lnt'ipc'
tltion u the Inv. W. also found that the former
chie examiner Of the civil Service commission h'd en-
tered arrangement with the Controller ny winch wv
men thus appointed should remain una >,urhc1 upon ''
condition that Tho Controller should refuse IN futlr 70 pay
any person coming civil Service rules who ala not
have cercatc from the Nyll service commission tha'
he bon p1r' upon IN" tngib' isl, Nh'h aS'''
tho Cont ocr ,ta,- H. IA, carried out There wa also
number Of Violations, notably In the Asylum for Feeble
min I'd Children aud Industrial Srhool, at Roche'tr
whore the former chc examiner Of this Commission had
All. no provision what FOR EXAMINATIONS although TO-
ot.-t.d by the sCttutlol d. and he appointing
,,cr. vo obliged 10 violate the strict letter o. the aw
In ORDER cary The WORK Of their -N'ia! INSTITUTIONS.
Al every meeting Of Commission since IL formation
81. have done our best remedy the rNrtug stite oi
affair. aud pleased To BE- abl" TO ri"f, at this TIM
llul 4
1T 10 thirty under schedule j, aud ha'' hfs'F
reduced the numlsr 81 alleged Violations undo schedule
-. Til, has accomplished largely through the 90
operation Of the appointing powers. who have treated al
our communications In regard thr matter, court"ou'A
and with evident desire - ob.y both the '''et anu
spirit Il the law. and particularly Vs. nave D''"
aided by your and approval of our a't''
WITH reference 20 til. remaining Violations, We are
confronted bv th AiGcuy. Many Of thu opp,nte rave
been long In service aud have proven valuable ohcA''
In addition 10 thl- Hc are unable under the existing "a"
"a enforce the rules, there bring al guat provision
In tho gI, >"r,lc. for that purlo-" During thc
otfor rnrt u The lat -.on u the Legislature at Your
,,,.i,u vr had several conference. win Yourself AID
Professor Collin With reference 90 am"uiins "a" IA" :"
a. f render such Violations impossible ~ th" i1turc bul
were unable 10 thu limited tim" before "a" Appointment l"
r,tir. such legislation. We at work uu"n eu'h
amendment. a, We believe would cu' the defects OF mo
r..ent law and insure 10. cn'I cmcnt 100 tho -DFt VINO"
,ogr i,trr nanif- and respectfully suggest that suh
recommendation, A. We may make b. allowed To- appear H.
YOUR forthcoming to the ci that tD' Logs "uo
NAV promptly aid u. carrying ont III" work Tor which
, commission wa, ,r,ai,l. Your, resp tflly,
T. PKENTI>S BAILEY Pfe.i!'"t.
". H. MtKINSIItl,
pE +. VAN FLEET.
Commits. onrr-.