New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-02-03
TALKS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.
REASONS WHY THEY DESIRE ANNEXATION TO
THE UNITED STATES.


REASONS WHY THEY DESIRE ANSExAT1oS TO
THE UNITED STATES.
Omaha Neb. Feb. o.-LOrina Thurson. Chairman
Of the Hawaiian Commissioners, who arrived here last
night on their way to Washington. gave some add
tional particulars in regard to the revolution before
leaving here this morning. "When word came down
to us" he said to know II we would support TIE
Cabinet against the Queen. we sent around 10 GET ue
names OF all those who were willing 10 DO so ana VINO
had rifles. We did not know whether there were
twenty men or 500 who possessed weapons Tho
responsc was unanimous. and ii was like setting hra
TO a bundle Of straw. There was no prcmedltaton'
but n was felt that matters had as far as they
could GO, and that something had to I've done' Inc
feeling was general that II there was TO be change
of Government II must be the United states or nothne'
and not man would have answered the appeal TO
arms II he had thought mat IL WAS ho' W w ''o
United States.
"The idea that has gone abroad that the cry for
annexation is In the interests OF n sugar men IS all
wrong The sugar men know nothing abont II. ana
they are not in favor OF annexation except as II Only
means 70 save the island from anarchy The great
taut Of the Queen that she did not wish to reign
os q constitutional monarch. We would have been
rrllv satisfied TO pattern our Government after 'at
Of Great Britain and tried 10 do so. but the queen
would not have It. She was interested In the cry Oh
Hawaii for the Hawaiians' Now the Europeans and
Americans nav all the taxes and they do not propose
that the natives shall have the spending OF the money
they contribute This Is what the natives want to
do''
aOn what terms do you wish to be annexed to the
United Sates1"
DWELL That is a matter that has not been definitely
settled and though have plans It would not be
becoming for us to disclose them until We Hno"
whether there IS chance Of orr being acceptcN
We would not expect to I'm as a state because
our population is not large enough and 1t IS probable
| that VIC should ask TO come In as TERRITORY
| "would you wish q resident OF Honolulu to be ap
pointed Governor"
| arb,+ ts tho general wish We would be satisfied
with tho same terms as Territories. with certain adapta
| tons fitted TO our peculiar popuauon'
| GLOW Is the population of the ISLANDS divldehF'
aTbcre are about % 900 Inhabitants, and If these
q Oco arc natives, about 10000 Europeans md Auen-
cans $1,000 Chinese, 10000 japanese and the rest
| Polynesians.'
"If annexed, what would you do about universal
| suffrage
| "That IS q question that would have to be CON
s,dered. While we do not wish u deprive tho natives
OF the hight TO vote, there Is no doubt that hrse
number OF them are incapable Of using the franchise
A regards the Chinese and japanese they are not
~ course citizens and could not vote. These th ss
| viii. However. have to be determined when We find
| olt whether there IL any chance OF our oner 10
Uncle sam being accepted
| Commissioner W. d. Castle said: The foreign
nonnlatIon. including Americans, Germans Portu-
t,oraics are practically uDanmons In their approval
az the overthrow OF the Hawaiian monarchy, and In tho
belief that annexation 10 the United States Is 'ae
only remedy for anarchy and bad government. lneFe
are some English, not large number, however. WIG
,sueva the Queen should be dtthroned, but they are
DESTROYS that the young Princess Kaaulani, no" IN
England should take the throne md the Government
| 20 on under her rule. or course the result Vi u'9
would be to make the Islands practically an hhg'iS"
COLONY The Islands have been nade WHAT lHey "ic'
first BY the civilization taught by the American n'''
soparies which provided for Hawaii recognized pace
among the nations OF the earth. III IL hau hol W."
for mo civilization 50 taught, Hawaii womb nave ohe
| since become an apendage OF some European io"''
| Tbe Hawailans are almost unanimously a9ahiat "'
| naYAt,on but they are today less thhh nan ~'
| populauon OF the country. They are aNo opp
INV form OF government Will give the foreigners
| 49, o,co IN tho government. Tie natives were
ocu.,,v onuosed 10 the treaty Of reciprocity III 400
| ,ut within three years they found Ont what was
meant and the natives we're In favor OF ". ~ IT,,
| va, coming away from Honolulu. huHio'T !" it'
| With whom ! am acquainted asked ABOUT ~"
and referred to the condition Of feeling after The pas
aco =, ,bo reciprocity treaty. 1t was admitted aho
h.nd ,bo, the feeling the natives would BIO te sd'
after they had learned the real significance OF ane
| linn Entirely unknown 10 the iIoVido"hi WV
| rnmen. and OF It's committee. the better class o.
natives began circulate pettions 10 freS'ueh' '"
,so, asking for annexation. The time was 100 S"o
| ,u much IN be done but Just as we LETT Two o.
| - ~ ,hcss petltlons thrown aboard "on
,,ntnc ovAr 13O names all OF native IIawaiias Some
| ,,roe ~ high standing and integrity openly iaV"
| nnoxauon They believe 1t means good goveTnh7'
nd General prosperity. One very Intelligent hatNe
| :, pa,,, eavs: THE day has gone by In ih"ah d.
. | 49, ,ouoiians In the future, Hawaans only VII
, | snor and do we'll who win earn living by 'h''
u,o .xor,iops and personal Intelligence.
aWas there any feeling among the people hDo"' ~
LANDING ~ tbe sailors and marines from the "''o"
nTrcro was none. The landing OF the sailors an
u. ,ros done at the request OF the Amerc"
1 y1n,etcr who confined himself strictly "i'hn ''oH
80 Tho reason they were landed was Deca"s
c ~, were threats Of bloodsled. inceildiorlSm an
a '',e,snoo and a great many residents american
o Wv, ",Hnrs berc.d the committee as a h hsca
v afcgrard TO make the aplG,s..oh o,,,nc forth In
letter was written eetuh6 iDr, ="
sit,atIon and expressing me l esa NJ Iropcr
e e., therr was danger or eesu ' ,on,ns ne Iande
s oma violence They requested VA. The LEI tc
or the protection of life ana PIT H. ooom,nittec an
lor VI. tndnd bv all the members OF we ,,r t NJ,
4 was sngh'N .o o2 nnd myself took the ftleT - s
Ni. I'D re0urstcd that Sufficient UV,po I,,'.
elenen. ,ha residences Of the pcopc az Vn,,
70 su' ,aon announced that som" oi o =, nd
i III ms ,tvos of Inc other Governments pio''oe
. | TTP noint OF fact, the landing on and mn +
In pom, some of the representatives alu w. =
ult h u 6lcd by the British resident Mi'n''o''
TOIrPISr,S VIEW OF The RENohoii '->
y rrrrp FROM A ROCHESTER, MAN WHO WAC =