The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-03-19
CHURCH SALOONS.
DIR. Rainsford Lectures on His Pet Scheme
but Meets with Obstacles.

scheme before a large audience in the
chapel of st. Chrysostom's church al
$50 Seventh avenue. says the New YORK
Sun.
DR.. Rainsford began ty saying that
most OF the saloons in England were
owned by the distillers and brewers, and
| that this systcm was being gradually
| introduced here.
| when all of our saloons are held In
this way" said DR.. Rainsford, lit is
| going TO be serious thing. The only
| thing that we can do is TO meet fire with
| fire. Alcohol has come here 20 stay. 1t
| has alWa avs been in use and always Will
! be.
| Il wanted to start a saloon in connec-
ton with my church, but came TO the
| conclusion that one place OF the kind in
this large city would be of no use. l want
TO see the day v hen clubs will be started
| on every block in every street In this
city for the purpose Of selling good beer
| and good whisky, none to be served to
drunken men or to those likely to become
drunk, and none to be sold after certain
hours at night. Make no secret Of the
place. but throw open the blinds and
create a place where you would not be
ashamed to take your wife. The present
retail trade is the greatest swindle on
earth. The Gutenberg system has got
| 10 come here, and the time will come
when the liquor business in this city will
| be in the hands OF the best people in
| stead OF in the hands Of the worst. as It
| Is now"
a fairly well-dressed man, who tad
| made himself conspicuous several times
during the evening by bursts of applause.
got up and said:
''I'p tagged for fair hut Two liStenpd to
your remarks pretty carefully, DR.. Rains
ford. and TO say the least. you are logical
Yes. SIR" went on the citizen, to the
amusement Of the younger element in
the hall and the horror Of the old ladies
present. I'm pretty We'll jagged. You
may not believe it, but l am"
you'd better sit down." said DR.. Rains
ford. Some Of the people in the room
agreed with the Doctor, while others
urged the man to keep on. After making
few more remarks about his jag the man
sat down. He was heard from several
times before the evening was out. A
young man who said his name was Cole
ridge A. Hart got up to speak.
Never In my life" said Mr.. Hart, until
now have l heard of a minister Of the
Gospel who advocated fighting the devil
with fire. / always heard that the devil
was TO be fought with the doctrine OF
the Holy Ghost. and I tell you it is the
only right way to fight sin. DR.. Rains
ford's idea is nonsense, / say. Some
others and started a club on the lines of
DR.. Rainsfords Sunday-school saloon
some time ago. We divided It into three
classes In the first light wines could be
INDUCED in. in the second good liquors
were allowed. while in the third total
abstinence was the rule.
Before the club had been going three
months every member in 1t belonged TO
the second class. and half OF them were
drunkards. Don't fight fire with fire, but
fight 1t with the Holy Ghost. How would
1t look to go into a church saloon Of the
kind the reverend doctor advocates and
read signs on the wall: Golden Text
Mint Juleps; Sunday-school Cocktails a
Speciality Wouldn't that be-"
Mr.. Hart was interrupted at this point
by a storm OF Kisses. He tried to go on.
but the crowd would not let him. There
were more Kisses when small voice
came from corner, as follows:
I'm jagged, but you are logical Doc
tor, and
A tall, seytre-looling man. with min
ister's waistcoat, bald head and iron
gray beard, arose and said:
rs there to be free and open discus
sion?"
II lS, Ttp-lcu the rev. Ut. Ollll. VINO
officidted as chairman.
And may say what 1 think?'
You may"
Then" said the man, Il want 10 say
that DR.. RainsfOrds church saloon Is the
most internal invention OF the devil, and
his idea Of fighting sin with sin is inqui-
tous. shout prohibition now and at
al times. Prohibition foreverr" he
shouted. Fight the saloon with prohi
btion and"
"Norscnse! interrupted a title man
behind the speaker.
1T is TRUTH" went On the tall man.
Il say it is nonsense" rereated the
little man.
Nonsense. you say?" shouted the tall
speaker. turning on him. That's what
all Of you red-nosed folks say"
"Red-nosed" yelled the little man.
springlns up. by gosh, that's not so.
Or. Rainsford and audience. l leave it TO
you al, is my nose red?"
1T certainly is not" answered DR..
Rail sford, who was plainly annoyed at
The turn affairs were taking
We'll. dtn't interrupt me again then"
said the tall prohibitionist grimly.
But you're away off" seid the little
man.
Say. do either OF you fellows ever
drink" began the gentleman with the
about fourteen Of the church brother
hood who were acting as ushers jumped
on his neck, and he was led TO a seat In
a more secluded part of the room
May / go on now?" asked the speaker
who didn't agree with Dr. Rainsford.
There was a chorus OF Kisses and groans.
but Chairman Still said that he might.
and he resumed:
Il have four sors. and l would sooner
see them all buried than have anything
TO do with DR.. Rainsford's Infamous
church saloon. A young man In another
part Of the room whom l saw applauding
DR.. Rainsford's idea might have to write
a letter TO his home some day something
like this:
Dear Mamma: have always kept my
promise to you about not touching liquor,
but our beloved pastor has started a sa-
loon in connection with the church, and
we have lovely times drinking whisky
and other things. l have grown TO like
liquor Immensely. and feel that our church
saloon is doing a great work. The other
day I was down town and wanted a
drink very bad. There were none Of our
beloved church saloons around, so / went
into place. and 10 my great surprise
found 4 German In his shirt sleeves be-
hind the bar. instead OF one OF our minis
tiers OF the Gospel.
This" said the speaker will be the
result OF the church saloon. II Will make
drunkards. Prohibition forever! Now
hiss all you want"
The audience did hiss.
II was learned later that the speaker
was the RNv fohp Wilson .,Fha