New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-02-05
THE CATHOLIC DISPUTE.
FATHER DUCEY TALKS ABOUT 1T.
HE SAYS THAT THE CHURCH WILL DE bENL
ETTFD Ry THE CONTROVERSY.


FITTED BY THE CONTROVERSY.
The Rev Thomas j. Ducey the rector OF II. LEI
Roman Catholic Church, was seen by ihoAhe -
porter yesterday and asked to give ius OPINION ~
| T. what would be the result OF the Cathono coh"o
versy. and To say whether ne though u "o'nu ''
benefit the Interests Of the Roman Cathohe CI"'''
| in this country. Here 1, what he said:
| ~ should lie most pleased 10 grant your iti"e'
| md give review OF what some people can '"e
| agitation going on in tie CathOhc N"
| Many Catholics thouchessy fear that IRIS ae'a''""
may do evil ] think great good must come VI ~
1t is really amusing TO find people who profess 10 w
| good Catholics proving by their WORDS ana coh"''
| that they are more man followers than God's io'-
lowers. For years this same class OF people nav
professei that they would like 10 see the eceies1
asilcal affairs Of the American Catholic Chureh ~"
minstercd In keeping with canonicsl FORMS 40"
when the Holy See has recognized the growth ana os
nifty OF the Church I'm the United states ana Has ''
up a supreme tribunal for more Just administration
these very people Mt their voices against the Holy
Sees action and the mercful decisions OF the Apos
iolc DELEGATE They cry out, We do not want Rome
rule here but home rule And when branch 80 10
p ak of the Vacan's authority and the Propaganda
power is up In these United states these iseuheu
Catholics-ay and clercare proclamlng 10 IN" world
how little respect they have for the Divine authority
OF the Church. welcome with al nv nfr'
the action of Leo XIII through his Apostolic Dele
gate Archbishop Sa,olli. The men VINO pr'l'e Vi
scandal because Justice Is done are the enemies vi
the liberty OF our institutions well the enemies
OF the Holy sees bcnrHcently exercised authority.
think that all information given through the press OF
the nets OF the Holy through its representative
Monsignor satclli, will do good and not evil 10
day one OF the most prominent members OF the zeal
protes ion In this ety. gentleman OF highest so li
distinction and general scholarship, 4 strict Eps-
cop allan. came to me and sail:
hurr IL
Pope through this gentleman. Archbishop Sa,on Is
breaking down the barriers of prejudice against your
religion and In short time there VIII b" nothing 10
prevent Protestants from saying: II we want oil
truth we will find IT in this Church, which Is showing
80 much grandeur"
lie quoted the words OF ST. Augustine and said:
THE qope Is proving 10 the American bishops and
nrests mat they can men and exercise the liberties
O. true mon true priests. Heretofore the clergy
men OF our Church have seemed 10 fear to open 'heF
mouths and express any opinion on phonc
question that might conflict with the views anu
arbitrary judgment Of bishops Protes'an's can no
longer say that Catholic priests Catholic laym"n are
Pop. ridden out OF their HIGHT 20 exercise IRE speech
with honesty and for the Popcs representa-
five In. set the American Catholic citizen and pir't
the example that the truth shall make them ife;' 'ha'
they ale the reasonable creatures or tAe r'a'ohaO
God who oaly cXacts rra'onillr service. i'h gen
cmcn are told today BY the head Of your Church and
,hin,s unity is a necessity; that in all doubtful mat
,cIs you can cxercic liory. but In all thing you
should exercise charity. Tho words Of S. Ausustin"
are brought home 4, all mos for'efnlly through
the nets Of Leo XIII and Archbishop Satoh.
IL have been e:catly pleased with the dIgDih"d
course OF The Tribune. II seems TO hsV" recognized
that great moral principles were At stake and has
opened IFS column, freely and generously proper
presentation Of what 1t has called the Catholic con
trovor,y | regretted - see in iodaN's Trihun"
statement That q little bit personal Tor III 'h'
controversy We mu, keep sight Of tn" great principles
at issue To-day hc statement In Th" Tribune Np'a"'
~ Tammanv Halls loyalty 10 ih" HOLY see ana III
elnuatcs tha, the Catholic nam" her" In Ne" iorh
and Tammany Hall SYNONYMOUS terms. 1t J,
trun this political university has wonderful
orranza,on and dos not allow IFS subjects 10 nav"
any opinion that conflict, with - bosses IL l. Tue
TIA, for ycar, unfortunately, many persons nave
,ar,d 70 drag the catholic INTO arlln'on with
Ills organization Of unsGvory record bmi. iiah" 'n
there are innumorabl" Catholics who. While 'h'N
r.cornizo their right 10 vot" their judgment ana
honor direct; ravc always d"-pi~cd aud al"ay, VIII
dcspise The effort, made TO smreh III" 'ath'h' name
through Tammany Hall Tammany ha' dirt 'nrish
in the street. of Ncw-lofk CITY today
and our citizens are suffering cho'sh u
1 -caihing # into th,s lungs without having The
beauty OF God, doc.inc revealed to AID taught by
The Catholic Church cloudcd 10y having the Catholic
name either In tn" perOn Of ne Ap'N"h' Dc"sa''
CT the Cathor aiiy. placed In parallel Columns Win
Tammany', unsayory history and covered with Tam
man: mud. ] shall I've greatly obliged 10 TN" irlhnh'
IL II will continue 20 protect 'nihono honor f-'m
,o,,c regarded os in any way ahli1t1 with mi, do
mo r,Uzlng organization. fammany Hall. TIE pres
can greatly help IN" Church In carrying oti Ia" pjiry
now naucuratcd for home rule H. the church In tlsr
United states. If II /, careful 10 publish ruh'hhl
all facts benrlng apon Justice and inoIay' IL II Is
fearless. ~ believe II t.. TO got n great '""rch
light against corrupt ana unjust administration IN
Church md state ] do not feel that scandal Will
b. given by This course
.uf II tec,,, he that scandals cometh. hut Voc be
,o that man through whom scandal, cometh' People
inca sight OF hi, advice OF the iolr Scriptures. Thee
regard tac eIcc, and neglect th" cnu~". Je, Christ
threaten, the and speaks mrr'ifuly OF the ei
,ett Turn on your scarcaiehs Of tho pres Of the
country from the Atlantic % u" Padnc coas's. On
nose wrong and injustice. and 'Ae press will continue
,o ,s whnt Mon,gnor sa-on ha> slrcady declared IT
crcot /, not The greatest factor Of uur progress and
Gyinaon WAT cy agent, fear Is net The cvll they
p,.urc OF themselves and their methods
Father Duccy WI, asked why Il" thought rather
si,nrrr Yea, made secretary to the Apostolic Dele
gate in place. Of III. Rooh"F, who Ind ALREADY been
Dr. Rookie wns simply coming here temporary
secretary to ihc dcl"!a'e, iN "pp"in'm~nt was NOT
man.ntly establish III fhc United states the Apostolic
sss &: ns? 4 .n.r A%2 1a
has been sccr"ory In 'hc Propaganda Of american
"n d@d aq hi, app" in" "a, p%n%cn "rr ana
auditor TO Monsgnor oalolli would be emn"nily
Wien asked II he thou,lt there vas any truth in
the statement that MonSlgnor o'Conneil had been
DO not b,llcyc a word Of IT, II Is another
story rnt ont by go,ipy old woman conan LIZ Spi'n
purpose which II Will not accomplish
nIcrIop IyIccEp NAY RI CALLED To ROME |