St. Paul daily globe., 1893-02-16
The Captious Kicking Of Sew
eral louncilmen Checked
at the End,
And the Lowry Proposition
Finally Recommended for
Adoption.

As announced, the joint council COM
mittee on street railway matters met
last evening to hear public expressions
on the propositions made by President
Lowry, which have been recently pub
lished Aid. Zimmerman was one of
the committee who advocated the call
ing of the meeting, in order. as
he said, that the public could
come i'll and present their
views. The public evidently didn't
care about expressing opinions, for at
$3.50 o'clock, when the meeting was
called to order, only thirty-tWo persons
We're in attendance. This included SIX
members OF the committee. four report
ers and eight city officials. Everything
moved along nicely, and, barring some
strong objections made by Aid. FRANK
lin, it looked as though the propositions
submitted by MI. Lowry would
be approved. When the vote
was taken. however, MesSrs. VOL
terstortf Frrnklin, Warren and
Zimmerman voted against and MeSSrS.
DAILY and Van Slyke for the acceptance
OF the rrOpOsitions. This caused con-
siderable SUI prise, and it was only after
Thomas Cochran, d. ID. Merrill and JOS
eph Wheelock had made pleas and but
tonhoed the members that the action
was reconsdered and the matter re-
ferrpd TO the city attorney and attorney
for the road to draw up an ordinance
such as outlined in the proposition.
Citizens Again 1t.
The meeting opened by Assistant City
Attorney Phillips reading the PROPOSE
tions submitted by Mr.. Lowry. Mr..
DAILY suggested that any one desiring
IS be heard could now have the OppOr-
tunity. Thomas Cochran said he repre-
sented with other gentlemen the COM
mittee from the chamber of commerce.
The committee had considered the prop
OSitiOns made by the railway company
as just read. III it the committee had
made, at least so the committee
thought. a fair and, in some instances.
Il generous proposition. In very "a
specttul manner the committee desired
to express it as its opinion that the
propositions should be accepted.
Z. p. Langford, in behalf of a few
friends in the Fifth ward, wanted to
hear from Mr.. Lowry OF Mr.. Mum re-
garding the transfers on parallel lines.
street lines were parallel lines. and he
would like TO have the question eX-
planned.
Mr.Munn said the idea was to prevent
persons riding from their residence
down town and then take a transfer and
travel back on it. He thought the lam
guage could be changed, so as to make
ii satisfactory.
Mr.. Van Slyke said the people of the
Arlington hills district wanted the line
extended to the park which was to be
located at Phalen. Mr.. Lowry said to
do this the present line would have to
be extended about mile and a half.
There was no park there at present, and
might not be for some time, but he had
no doubt the matter could be arranged
when the proper time came. Mr.. VOL
terstOrtf said the people were afraid if
the propositions were adopted they
would get no car line in that district
and to the park in three years.
Mr.. Lowry said there was no doubt
but that satisfactory arrangements
could be made with the property own
ers.
Mr. Van Slyke was satisfied the
proposition made was more fair than
any submitted by the committee. In
order TO put the matter in shape and get
home early, he moved the proposition
be adopted and the committee so rec
ommend to the council.
Here rs the ObjectOr.
Before the motion could be put Aid.
Franklin arose and SAID he was not in
favor of the proposition. He had given
the matter much thought and found
nothing in them which would greatly
benefit the city. They were cleverly
drawn and the only concession granted
the city was to take away the trans
fers on the interurban and give the
company the privilege not to build
any more lines in two years. He
declared he would vote for no
ordinance which Disseminated as
TO transfers Oh the interurban line.
The StTyker avenue line was promised
four years ago, and on this people went
to that district and built homes. AS it
was now, people had to walk fifteen
blocks to reach the car line. The serv-
ice was not as good as when the horse
car lines were operated. He presented
Il petition signed by seventy-fiVe resi-
dents and property owners asking that
the Stryker avenue line be comnleted
as promised. On Grand avenue, he
said, there were 156 houses, and on
Stryker avenue there were 211 houses.
On ST. Anthony hill there were lines
every live or six blocks. and in West st.
Paul it was necessary to walk fifteen
blocks to get a car. For these reasons
he would not vote for any such ordi-
nance. and he was certain he would not
change his mind.
An East End Argument.
w. S. Morton, president of the White
Bear line, said a number of men had
built town at North st. Paul. Two
years and a half ago the motor line was
built to and through North ST. Paul.
Last year it was changed to an electric
line. Connections were made with
the cable line. Ever since then an
effort has been made to arrange so
that cars on the North st. Paul line
could run down town. The transfer
with the city line was objection