The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1893-10-17

ture for more than a month after II
was delivered. There were no steno-
graphers then in the Senate.
Lodge thought the speech was taken
down somewhat in shorthand, or what
passed for shorthand. by Gale and
after a revision by Webster was pub
lished
Vest said his experience taught him
to believe a written speech was much
more effective than an oral one. In
regard to the closure rule, Vest said,
lif the resistance of the minority had
no other defense in American history,
the defeat of the force bill would con-
American people. Vest thanked
heaven that a minority under the
rules of the Senate were able to de-
feat that infamous legislation. In
conclusion, Vest said he was satisfied
that unconditional repeal cannot be
had in the Senate.
Hill asked why. if a majority favor
ed the repeal of the bill, it could not
pass the Senate?
Vest replied if the senator had read
the rules and witnessed the proceed
| ings under them he ought to be able
to answer the questions satisfactorily
to himself
Hill replied if the rules of the Sen
ate prevent the passage of a bill
which the majority desires to pass,
| the best thing to do is to amend the
rules in the proper manner.
| Vest retorted he had heard that
during the discussion of the force
| bill, but the rules were not changed.
| Hill said he repudiated the doctrine
that one-fifth of the Senate could alb
solutely prevent legislation The
power to make rules implied the power
to change them. HAS it come to
this" asked Hill in closing, "that the
Senate is powerless, first to legislate
and second to change the rules so it
can legislate hereafter? If So it
might as well disband."
The repeal bill was laid before the
Senate.
Jones, of Nevada, took the floor and
proceeded with his speech.
AT 3:45 he asked the indulgence of
| the Senate, as he was not feeling we'll
enough to finish today.
| PETER then took the floor
| Palmer of Illinois, got into a par
| liamentary squabble with Kyle and
| Allen. Palmer was complaining of
speeches made to consume time, and
| Kyle asked him to specify one speech
Palmer reqlied: Il will answer by
saying that 1 believe the Senator from
| Nebraska -"
This was as far as he got as Allen
called MIN TO OrOer.
| Palmer declined to take anything
back, and Allen denied that his speech
was an effort to consume time.
! After some colloquy, Cullon sug-
gested the matter be dropped.
Teller objected, saying he was tired
of the incessant criticisms in the press
and from other sources that the OPP
ponents of repeal were wasting time,
and characterizing their course as
revolutionary. The next time a sug-
gestion was made to him he should
call the author to book.
| Cullom's suggestion was then adopted
and PETER resumed his speech.
| At o'clock, Pugh observed the Sen
ate had been in session seven hours
and PETER yielded for a motion to
adjourn.
Voorhees, expressed hope that the
motion be voted down, saying he
would ask the Senate to remain in
session until 10.
BY a vote of 80 to Is, the Senate re-
fused to adjourn.
Within the next thirty minutes the
attention of the chair was called three
times to the fact that quorum was
not in the chamber but on each roll
Icall a. quorum responded. On the last
call, it was asked that Dolph and Kyle,
who were present and not voting,
lSnQulQ De recOlueQ IOT The purpose OIL
making a quorum. The point of order
was overruled.
On the call, at $40 thee Senate was
without a quorum but a moment
later two senators appeared and Voor-
hees asked that further proceedings
under the call be dispensed with
Dubois called for the ayes and nays.
On this roll call when pairs had to
be respected, no quorum voted but
Iduring the call of the Senate to dis
close the presence of a quorum, when
the pairs did not count, quorum
always appeared.
Thus for two hours was the Senate
clogged.
When Voorhees, found the predica-
ment he was placed in, he attempted
to withdraw his motion, upon which
Dubois called for the ayes and nays,
but this required unanimous consent
and this Teller refused to give.
Finally, at 4:40, a voting quorum
was obtained and PETER continued his
speech.
At 10 o'clock, PETER without con-
GLIDING his speech, yielded to voorhees,
who asked the Senate to adjourn, and
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