The evening world., 1893-12-08
II dkEAT CHRISTMAS NUMBER Of THE SUNDAY WORLD sGMM

conspiracy out of the case as far as
possible 30 as not to take the mind off
tne main issue-the question of whether
OF Brandt.
There IL a naked indictment for the
killing Of Brandt, and all the acts and
conversations of pr. Meyer down to the
time ar the alleged taking of life, are ad-
missable in testimony as showing motive
and the intent to take life for the pur-
pose Of defraudins the insurance COM
n. What conversat ton did you have with
Or. Never again asked Mr.. Mcintyre.
He asked me what | was in Jail for.
l told him. He said there was not
% TnoHssh nu money me in that He said he
could make thousands" said Muller
He said the scheme l was In was no
good; that We could swindle life insur-
,.o 81 was taken to Joliet Prison June &c.
1890 and served ten months and nine
days, pr Meyer was discharged; I
got out May 2s 1891 and went back to
week with William Marshall, who was
fellow prisoner in the county jail" 90,
Centre street, Chicago. That was June
q 1891. DR.. Meyer was practicing medi-
cine at that number. His sign said
pr; H. Meyer He was living there
Mr.. Mcintyre and smiled while Muller
Identified her.
into that scheme: / told him no; I
didn't want to get into any more trouble.
He asked me had l seen Baum in Joliet
Prison, and how did he look. told him
Peter G. Barker at the prison. =.
DIR. Meyer said: I was with my wife
to Joliet Prison to see Peter c. Barker.
He said he had been writing letters, to
20 n hod lot
tiers. He said Barker could come out
I asked him for s., and he gave it to
me-"
AT another time DIR. Meyer asked me
II knew Ludwig Brandt. A man came
and and rem ,an and I said: Yes, Yes, :,
Cook County JAIL
"A few days, later ! returned the 81 to
pr. Meyer and was living at 1870 Twelfth
street, Chicago then"
Did you meet a girl in Lincoln Park p
asked Mr.. Mcintyre.
Yes, / met Lena Kaufman in Lincoln
Park, m July. 1891.
in July. Meyer said baum was out OF
Joliet; and Brandt read out Of a paper
Next exit time ne say Meyer he came to
that he had letters from Baum In Gin
was Very "" sick ii. DR.. Meyer said said he
Baum and ia have his 'fe ' insp prdof He
said he was going to Cincinnati to find
out all he could about Baum. He went.
and when. he got back he said he had
to go to Germany to see Baum's family
and find out all about him.
didn't see him then again till the
Fall. He said he had been to Germany.
New toy York be fe to IN
asked me to represent Baum to get in
sursd. He told me a man by the name
Of Steffen had come from Germany with
schemes 10 cheat the Insurance compa-
MES and get money.
next SAY ~ F R Meyer ssen at ps.er
named Degedlo. DR.. Meyer told me
leo under the name OF silverburg,',
Meyer. and we y can me go va" on With With the tn;
scheme I have spent all my money get
ting Brandt insured under the name of
Raam 9ot Brandt Is ,b to Play Of sick
I can buy corpse and play 1t off for
Baum, and get the insurance.
Meyer said he had insured Brandt as
New York and Etnea Life Insurance
companies for $500 altogether. He said
Brandt must hire a place as Baum, be
sick as Baum, and pretend to die as
Baum.
He said he could find a sick man. a
consumptive man who could not live
long, put him in floor. call him Baum;
and when he. was dead; bury him, and
then get the insurance.
II told him ! liked that scheme. 1t
was best. He said he wanted to go to
New York to do that business. ,,
II asked him why he didn't go to Mil
waukee. as that would be cheaper. That
was in January. 1892
II saw Meyer again in February. in
Chicago. He told me that his wife had
married Brandt and had certificate
as Baum. and that she was going to
New York to live under the name Of
Amelia Baum so as to be ready to
claim the insurance money.