New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-10-11
MR.. CHAMBERLAINS views.
A TALK WITH THE ENGLISH LIBERAL
UNlONIST LEADER
HE DOES NOT EXPECT TO BE PREMIER OF ENG
HANDSOME MEASURE OF LOCAL SELFGOy-
ERNMrNT FoE IRELAND FAVORED.

HANDSOME MEASURE OF LOCAL SELFGOY-
ERNMrxT FOR IRELAND FAVORED.
Salem. Mass. Oct i0-Joseph Chamberlain made
an additional statement today IN relation to the
report Which credited lin with making overtures
to tic Welsh members Of Parliament for the de-
feat Of Mr.. Gladstone and his own election as
Premier. He said:
The story IS absolutely childish. There is not
the slightest foundation for it, Any Enghsnnan
would once see that it was absurd on tie FACE
ot It. II really wanted TO become Prime Minister
in Mr. Gadstone's place. the Welsh members
would have no pOwer 10 crafty my ambition.
They are only handful in Parliament, eght-and-
twenty OF them altogether. II Mr.. Gladstone were
turned out OF Office even, II Is the other section
Of the Opposition, the Conservatives ana not the
Liberal linionists who would come into power. and
they would furnish the Prime Minister They are
largely in the majority in the Cnionst party. and
| have not the slightest doubt that In the event
Of Mr. Gladstones defeat and the coming Into
power OF the Unonist party. Lord Salisbury would
again accept Office Nobody can be Prime Minister
who does not command a majority in the House
Of Commons. and ! do not COMMAND Il niaJoriy
even OF the Opposition
Mr. Chamberlain asked if his party re
garlel the Home Rule bill as dead.
"Oh. yes: for the present at least, ne repiieh.
1T cannot come UP before next year at the
earliest and perhaps not even then. Whenever IL
comes up II is going 10 meet again the same rate
il has already met Whatever information you
may receive through the partisan correspondence
that Is generally sent from England 10 the United
states you may rely upon it that the Gladstonians
will not come back into power again. As soon as
they appel! 10 the people their fate IS sealed we
shall wipe out the GladstOnan majority completely
at the next general election. | cannot say as 10
what orr majority will be- but it will certainly be
one which will make US Independent OF the votes
Of the Irish members.
MY action in regard to Home Rule is the same
as the action OF Americans toward southern seces-
sion. will not have anything in connection with
ireland or Home Rule which would lead TO separa-
ton. \ separate Parliament would lead to sep
araton. and against that prepared to fight to
the death. and 50 Is the Conservative party also
But any kind Of local self-government which can
be shown 10 be perfectly safe. and not mere step
toward separation. perfectly ready to sup
port. and so. too. il the Conservative party. When
the Conservatives come into power again. | am
sure they would be ready to consider any proper
measure looking to local seIf-government in Ire
land such a system. for instance. as you have
here in this country. which gives charge OF local
and municipal affairs local bodies. and which
would not constitute separate Legislature in
ireland. | would support.
Mr.. Chamberlain was asked if the relations be-
tween Mr. Gladstone and himself were friendly.
on yes, he said. everything Is pleasant be-
tween us. Mr.. Gladstone IL strong and enjoys
the season than he at the beginning. lie H.
wonderful man, and was never better intel
lectually."
danger that the English people will abolish the
n ise Of Lords because OF Its rejection of the
Home Rule bill.