New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-02-15


one fertile with danger. The legislative body
the privilege Of voting for a member of which
would require the ownership of property Of rata
ble value, would be most shadowy safeguard
for minorities If there was one thing more Ger
tain than another. it WAS that d safeguard, based
upon property qualification, was worth little
more than the paper upon which its tile Was
written Conservative cheers
The whole tendency of democratic legislation
was to sweep away the arbitrary distinctions
founded upon wealth. Conservative cheers
Therefore. if such chamber as proposed were to
prove effective in its operation, it must newt
ably become the object of such concentrated at
tack in Ireland as to he swept away by the first
onrush of public feeling. The speaker would not
say that a weak barrier better than none ::
but if Parliament were asked to provide anything
like a safeguard for minoritics, it was asked to
ignore every lesson Of history that democratic
States capable of a1ording. tChecrs) As
to the exercise of veto power by the In
peral Parliament. Mr. Balfour held that such
a provision would lead to o legislative deadlock
in either the English the Irish Parliament
Cries Of Heart" Hearty
1t idle for Mr.. Gladstone to talk to them
Of the analogies of colonial legislatures t Hear"
Il" IIear!") The question now under
land in any respect resembled colony. Cheers
As to the question of imperial supremacy, they
were told that supremacy would figure largely
in the preamble Of tho bill but what the
speaker desired to knew was whether or not
there would he in tho bill itself valid dec
laration that the British Parliament would have
a real operative supremacy over the Irish Par
lament Cheers)
1t had been said from the Irish benches that
there would be imperial supremacy on the under
standing that an honorable bargain was entered
into between the imperial Government and the
Irish Parliament. Such supremacy would never
he exercised. Laughter Speaking for those
honorable Members who agreed with him in po-
litical matters. Mr. Balfour declared no such bar
gain was possible would be given. Cheers >
II the supremacy of the British Parliament was
to he preserved, Il must be in form wliiob would
he operative. Z" Hear" Hear They would
not allow this weapon for the exercise and main
tenance of justice TO rust on their hands Cheers
If they could. through the exercise of tho con-
stitutiona power intrusted TO the Imperial Par
lament. do something to mitigate the evils they
foresaw as certain to result from tic establish
ment of an Irish legislature, they would not neg
Iect TO do their duty. Continuing, Mr.. Balfour
said:
When the Irish Members for colonial legislaur.
thew ask for what ia absolutely npossibe II not al
eadv impossible By the Constitution such legislature u
rendered impossible BY the very bill which we are uI'
cussing Cheers) Eighty Irish members are to be re,
tanned nj Westminster. As they would vote on Imperial
subject. would ho Irish Members 10 decide wn"
should sit on Ministerial benches. cHear" "Hear'
70 ia vain would not be allowed 10 discuss '
vote certain bills. when they would have IN. iaf seme @
power Of deciding who should have chs'se OF h' "''
cric,r Hear" Tie whole scheme i simply IN
possible OF execution. tCaeersJ
A 10 the financial proposals do not pretend 70 nave
grasped thoroughly the Prime Minister'S pAn ~ @ p.o
no,.d however to give Ireland bonus OF Aoooosv'
Tn. Prime Minister says ought 70 be hoerM "'.h
Ireland an willing to be liberal; but when 'hee -
dlylsisn between the two countries, HUE iess Rehosi
and justice is not cut OF place "ha' ~ UNI, u,
c5oo 600 supposed 70 be forl u represents espa VI
f17 900 600 aad ought this country give % lre!she
Cl7 900 oooi The only reason which can conceive II
the confession that have been beaten ana must pay
mis- amoun, ne n sort OF indemnity (LauRhnrJ
m. cor.rom.n. knows that the Ulster landlords In
r.and are opposed to this scheme The landlords kno"
who their will be Is the scheme DE ceff'o mo
affect Those masters have never hicden what 1r'f
Intentions are The disoyal portion q ireland ma IN
mott OF the bill the ether hand, the goal oi 'hc'f
de.lr.s They know however. that their domestic poIc,
would he hampercd by legislative council eleotd D,
high arbitrary franchise and II IL not Hkelt uh"' "''
will be content with scheme "hicn' ns" Va %
Ireland Nation would give her much less freedom '"'
is enoved by any selfgoveInng colony under The fpc'
Why then should the Nauonasts be paid EI'ooVVoo o'
the privilege of wr~ckng Constituuonf
Surely those engaged IN framing uis DIN arc h''
deficient in ingenuity ability, zeal duty why u.n'
hayo they done no better produce tuch pii ~
they have attempted an Impossible t"'S' 'N"'. -,
A federal Government colonial |'verhu''nt "''
good the British Consutuon a. II stands may oe you
but this ba stard combination OF The three Is luocto ~
impossible Those attempted TO fofce -
down the throat Of Parliament are ian0"h' rs %
to how this country was built up ar.
Prime Minister asks TO fetrSce our s'eps 70
progress toward dislnt+pratlon In 70 ooDP nv 80,
u. necessary STEPS Of evolution by which great enp
are bull. up maintained. tCheersr s4u'' ~ ~
h.r. arc case in which process has never been co
petedcsses Of arrested growth-but they are ine'e' WI
elusive proof Of the general proposiuoh
Tn regard 10 the British Empire you all KNOW 'h'',
although IN process Of founding beyond the sea e'
communities OF own race and blood we CANNOT ~
unon these communities stress 10 form par o'
the effective strength Of the United Kingdom The ,'
u.v come when unless they can find some m''hod VI
binding themselves In constitutional reouons " '
,o,ber country the thread affection ani com
mn, sentiment may be severed c'Hear ~ '"'''
- , ia, ne then within the United Kingdom Itself
ondeayor TO bring about s:atc Of things which we "
will be 80 productive Of national weakness 're'a
tho process OF being united u Great Brl'ah nore
in the bond Of common national affection uah ever
r, ,and .,i,aton began in 1879. under the guidance
=, q, able politiclan, who postponed perhaps !oi .
generation. perhaps even longer. the III" oo' =,
our wishes. Although great natni was mus ,,
,h am children and grandchildren VIII Stii ieeI INV
ecoc, ~ revolution Ireland and betrayal IN fneanu
,n think the country and the House have u,e pow
sun ~ rrhts nroce.s shall eo further. Much as
,hsv have suffered the past from vaciilauoh' uy VIZ
a, AL events now put end TO this PROJECT ao'ou'es
impossible OF execution in its details ana even Morse ~
the general principles by which the fiihe ""'''' ~ 80
IN ,, I'D c,,se Of rawing together in closer harmony
The drersn ports Of the United Kingdom inenn. 70 'ouna
',,,,, which must tend and ever as TINE goes
on to scparatc in temper nina ana ''''i"A'' ~
| nationality (Iepeaed Unionist cheer"
MR.. BRYCES EFFECTIVE REPLY
lanes Bryce. Chancellor Of the Duchy OF Ian
caster. replying TO Mr.. Balfour. said that IL was
not by representing Ireland in the most ooious
;nh. rossib,e and by the innaming of preju-