The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1893-11-16
STILL DARK ON HAWAII
THE CABINET MEETS BUf sitAS
OUT NO MOxr INFORMATION.
Claus spr~ckIcs, when Last mere sAi"
Force Was Not Necessary 70
Liliuokaanl's Restoration.

I
government and withdrawal OF the moral
support Of the United States from 1t, or
go further and authorize Minister Willis
to take such measures, including force.
as in his discretion may be necessary to
secure the restoration Of Liliuokalani to
the throne as would seem to be a fair
inference from Secretary Greshams re-
port 10 the President. II as much OF
mystery as ever. There is lack or any
! further positive information on the sub
ject just as there has ever been since
Secretary Gresham's report to the Presl-
dent was published.
II was expected bv public men that
some light on the situation might be OBJ
tanned Yesterday after the Cabinet meet
ing which was held at the White House.
and for which the President came In from
his country place at " cooley out so lar
as the public is concerned the only ques-
ton considered in the abinet might nave
been the publication, In advance OF the
meeting OF Congress o. Special CohHlh-
sioner Blounts report and other matters
on which Secretary Gresham oased ms
report for the only information OBTAIN
able after Il vas over wa that II had
been decided not 10 make anything pubic
until submitted to Congress.
Meanwhile the time OF arrival OF the
next steamer from Honolulu Is fast
drawing near. and It is evident that II is
TO this source the public must look Tor
definite information Of an authentic char
acter respecting the international ques-
ton, which has thrown tafi8 and SILVER
into the background.
Commissioner Thurston had two inter
views yesterday with Secretary Gresham
hot pn W
other Immediately after. The first had
but little Of moment the second was i'm
pOrtant Secretary Gresham recognized
the legal standing Of the provisional gov
eminent. and acknowledged that Mf.
Thurston was its representative. The eX'
act language Of the interview Is not given
out for publication but I'm substance IL
was as follows. Mr.. Thurston asked the
Secretary IL he Intended TO withhold the
position of this government toward Ha-
wall. and refuse to state his policy to It's
legal representative, lie assured the
Secretary that II he thought for one mo
ment that the provisional government had
any intention 81 abandoning in the slight
est degree its rights as a sovereign power
he was laboring under a gigantic delusion.
A. 10 the matter of arbitration, even III
the President considered himself I'm the
attitude of a judge, he was certainly not
the sheriff 10 carry out he decree OF the
court All that Hawaii had done was TO
offer herself to the United States. She
had the right 20 withdraw the offer or
modify it in any particular she saw ft.
The United States had declined the offer,
and Hawaii remained a free and indie
pendent power. represented by the pro-
visional government. What was the po-
sition Of the Secretary in regard 10 the
,f
The Secretary replied With some hesita-
ton that he recognized the provisional
government as the present legal govern
raent Of Hawaii, and that Wr. Thurstou
was its representative. That was enough.
Mr. ThurstQn had secured the recogri-
ton he sought. ard hu shortly withdrew.
In this connection the guarded tone OF
the Secretary's letter, published SATURDAY
morning. bears new light. Notice shat in
stead Of making positive statements OF
impending action. ne asks questions; the
closing paragraphs are given below:
should not the great wrong done to
feeble. but independent, State by an abuse
Of the authority OF the United States be
undone by restoring the legitimate gov
eminent? Anything short or that VIII.
not. l respectfully submit, satisfy the de-
mands Of justice.
"Can the United States consistently in
sist that other nations shall respect the
independel ce OF Hawaii while not re-
speeding il themselves? Our government
was the first 10 recognize the irdepcn-
dence OF the islands and II should be the
last to acquire sovereignty over them by
force and fraud"
Claus Spreckles. during his recent
visit TO Washington, 5it Is said, advised
Secretary Gresham that force would not be
necessary ~ res-J.c me Queen, and that
the provisional government would a. once
surrender on the suggestion Of the Presi-
dent OF the United States. This rs IN lire
with Mr. SpYeekIes' Judgment Oh other
Hawaiian matters in which be has been
wOefuly mistaken. as I'm his prediction OF
last spring that the provisional govern
ment would not last six weeks
The long dispatches which were received
Monday at the department IN the navy
cipher. IL Is understood. contained the
statement OF Minister Willis that the in
structiOns Of The Secretary Of state would
not accomplish the desired purpose. and
be asked for further instruction. These
win go out on the steamer which VIII sail
on Thursday but they Will have for COM
pany the emphatic declarations OF the
Hawaiian commissioner, Mr.. Thurston,
10 stand firm, concede nothing and sur
render nothing. Mr.. Thurston's grand
father was the class champion when he
was in Yale, and spent most OF his life
ina making swords. The commissioner
comes OF the best fighting stock in New
England.
Sir Julian Paunceforte, IL was said yes
terday. had been put in possession OF the
administration intentions in regard TO
Hawaii. and hal expressed his pleasure
that they were unobJectiOnable 10 her
maiestys government.
JapaR also has extensive interests IN
Hawaii. and has experienced considerable
difficulty In securing a recognition Of her
labor contract from the provisional GOV
eminent. Was she TO have a repetition Cf
that trouble or, worse, were her 1900
citizens working In Hawai- 10 be enda.-
gered by a war. as was indlca led ia the
press? The State Department is reported
TO have informed japan that The adminis-
tration intentions were not half as bad
as painted
Up 10 me sailing OF the China from
Honolulu on the 7th. Minister Wits had
conveyed 10 the naval forces at that port
nothing but his credentials. That was all
he had 10 convey. but his long dispatch to
the department may have conveyed Presi-
dent DOle's answer 10 his speech. and the
Hawaiian legation here have no fears as
to its nature. Still, II is hardly likely that
he had made that address. LiliuOkalani
may be as far from the throne as she was
when she tried 10 wJ-t cp a cGLsP.racy
90 dethrone her beloved MO'her Kala-
kaua. But that is another story.
The provisional government Of Hawaii
furnished 10 Commissioner BlOunt a
lengthy statement Of the evils under
which the Hawaiian people were COM
PEELED TO labor during the reign Of King
kalakaua. This statement vas prepared