Evening journal., 1893-10-18

tion WAS not argument, and that impu |
tations on mems motives did not carry |
conviction. He went on TO argue against
the position taken by Mr.. Hill
"Let me state" said Mr. Hill, what
my proposition is According to the
ordinary principle OF the parliamentary
proceedings, l claim first that it is within
The power Of the presiding officer in the
absence of express rules to the contrary,
TO determine the presence Of a quorum.
My second proposition Is that there is no
rule of the Senate which expressly or
even impliedly forbids that action.
Mr.. Mcpherson asked Mr.. Hill whether
he made any distinction between the
power and duty Of the Vice President In
the chair as compared with a Senator
temporarily called TO the chair
Mr. Hill do not. "
Mr.. Gray took issue with Mr.. Hill
Senators were obliged, he said, by the
necessity OF orderly proceedings, to pro
ceed in an orderly fashion to the obtain
ing Of parliamentary results.
Mr. Hin Defends New York Politics.
Mr.. Hill said that he had not expected
{ o convince the Senators from Alabama
and Delaware. They were not willing
to bow to the unanimous decision Of the
Supreme Court on the question His
own view Of the case was that It was the
duty Of the Senate to give such con
struction TO the rules as would not make
the Senate absurd and as would facilitate
public business. Mr.. Hill proceeded TO
pay his respects to Mr.. Morgan as hav-
| ing spoken contemptuously Of the poll
ticians of New York He admitted that
there were politicians there, but they were
| politicians in the highest and best sense
of the term. OF course ironically there
were no politicians in Alabama They
were all statesmen down in that country
| Laughter 1t did not lie in the mouth
of that Senator to reflect on the Demo.
cratic party OF the great Empire
state Elections there were as
honest as elections .in Alabama The
Senator (Mr. Morgan) had spoken o. his
lifelong devotion 10 the constitution.
1t might be So He (Mr HID had
supposed that for a brief period his
friend had been supporting another
constitution, but he might be mistaken.
Laughter and applause AS 10 Mr.
Morgan's talk about dying at his post
Mr.. Hill had heard like statements by
men who were going to "die In the
last ditch. "But," said Mr. Hill.
there are many of them left" Re
newed laughter
The Senator had eulogized formei
Democratic Senators including es
pecially Senator Thurman, OF Ohio, anC
yet the course which the Senator from
New York was marking out was tn
very course pursued by Allen q
Thurman when on one occasiln n. a
presiding officer of the Senate, he ha,
counted aIquorum of 80 when there wer
only 35 votes.
Change the Rules, Says Mr Sherman
Mr.. Sherman expressed the hope that
vote would now be taken on the questio
before the Senate. but as Mr. Dolph de
msnded the yeas and nays and Mr., Wasi
burn moved to lay the question on tn
table, Mr.. Sherman passed beyond an
addressed the Senate. While the rule
Of the body were intended to expedit
Legislation, they were used as an oil
struction by the minority in order to de
feat the will of the majority. The rulel
therefore. should be at once changed
corrected and altered. Whenever
minority pressed it's means Of obstrul
tion unduly it acted in the nature of
revolution; il sought to brea
down the rules of the Senat
and to use them as means {
: deprive the Senate of its power tomab
: laws for the people Of the United Statel
During all the war measures an
the reconstruction meas ures he had 50
in the Senate-when he was niue
better able to do so than he is now
until the gray of the morning, but
every case until within the last ten {
twelve years there was finally an agree
> ment between the minority and th
msjority, the minority yielded and th
time was fixed for vote TO be had II
single case had occurred TO the contrar
before the Force bill he should like {
know what It was The time had a
rived when the Senate must adopt rule
and regulations to prevent obstruction
to publ c business.
/ WASHINGTON, Oct s.-Later-Thei
is movement in the Senate, led t
Senator Hawley, to ascertain If a majoi
t ity of Senators will sign petition to Il
Vioe-P President requesting him TO pI
the repeal bill TO a vote and ignore q
I protests Of the filibustering minority.
Senator Hswley is a conservative ma
He said to-day that recent experience
would justify more than even
: ruling by the Yice-President tn
. would be heroic The peop
generally would sustain such a cSurs
e The Vice President will not, however
consider any such proposition withoI
p positive assurances that a larl
majority would back him up.
Hot Shot for Senator Hin.
The Senate met at 10 o'clock to da
d The pending question was Mr.. Doph
- motion to amend Mondays journal s
n as to show the presence of Senator
Allen and Kyle who refuse
to answer to their names. Mr.. Morga
I. Dem. Ala reopened and
voted much of his speech to
J. attack on the position taken by senat
r Hill to whom he referred as ian astu
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