The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1893-10-20

Mr.. Teller Withdraws His Objection
After nm Interesting Debate.


continued in the Senate. at 10 O'Clock this
morning There were then, however,
scarcely any members in the chamber, and
when the roll was called only twenty-five
members, just half a quorum, answered.
1t was not until 1880 that the forty-third
Senator put in an appearance and COM
pleted the number necessary 10 transact
business. The last man to answer was Mr..
Cameron. The Vice President began to lay
before the Senate number Of House bills,
but was interrupted by Mr.. Stewart who
said no business was in order until the
journal OF Monday last was approved. The
Vice President, however, ruled that it was
in order to have the bills read and re-
ferred to committees. That was done, the
New York bridge bill being one OF those
presented and referred.
a report from the finance committee was
presented and read. 1t contained COM
munication from the Treasury Department
in response TO the resolution calling Tor the
receipts and expenditures Tor the hrSt three
months OF the current year: II SHOWS TIE
dehcit for the three months TO De over
$zl, ,O0O Coz, or at the rate oil over $ci,OOU,VOV
for the year. 1t shows the actual eXpenu-
lures TO have been over SSeVVO,VOV, OF an
average OF about $lS000,O00 a month. 1ne
expenditures for the year, at the same rate,
would amount to about $594,OOU,vJV, or ABOUT
$2I ,O0O,UJO more tnan the estimated eN-
penses, and would show an increase or
expenditures over supposed actual receipts
OF little over S97,0Uv,0O0. A dennlte 1ore-
cast for the whole year was impossible, Dut
it was apparent that, should the present
conditions continue the denclt at the end
OF the year would be about SoO,VVOOVV. Inc
report was ordered printed.
Inc discussion of the last two days was
then taken UP again, and Mr.. Stewart aG-
dressed the Senate. Mr.. Stewart had little
nothing TO say as to the correction OF
the journal or the amendment or the rules.
His speech was largely in denunclatlon OF
the gold ring anu OF the ma tional banks,
and he had much 10 say III rebuke or
Controller Eckels for his remarks at the
Chicago banquet of the bankers congress.
Mr.. Eckels, he said, was undoubtedly a can
didate for future honorS. He was following
in the course of ex-Controller Knox and ex-
Director OF the Mint Leech, who had been
made rich by the New York banks. or
course, he said, when Mr.. EckelS retired
from office the banks would tickle him as
they had tickled his predecessors. In con-
clusion he said that the asking OF the Vice
President TO disgrace himself and make
himself infamous throughout the ages was
outrageous. The Vice President wouidn :
lay his hands on the Constitution and laws
of his country. The rules had been maze
for occasions like the present one, to pro-
tect the minority; and they would protect
the minority
Mr.. Dubois regarded the present as an
unfortunate occasion to attempt to change
the rules. No Senator would oppose by
expressed at the polls, and there could be
no doubt the people had spoken through
the instrumentality of the ballot on the
tariff question.
HILL JUMPS INTO THE FRAY.
Mr.. Hnl-Does the Senator know of any
method under the existing rules whereby
the majority can pass this or any other
bill, provided twenty Senators are deter
mined that it shall not pass?
Mr.. Dubois-I say that any bill which the
people of this country desire passed, and
by the Senate.
'How?'
by vote"
do you know" Mr.. Hill asked, "any
method under existing rules whereby a bill
can be passed, il twenty Senators insist
that it shall not be done?
The same method which has applied from
the foundation of the government" replied
Mr. Dubois.
Mr.. Dubois said majority favored q
compromise. In respect of the criticism OF
h1mSelf for not voting, Mr.. Dubois said IL
was his pleasure and delight to sit in the
Senate, but If his expulsion from the Sen.
ae wSnd @ he %od ths nof Of d the
ment. de would not reply TO the remarks
OF Mr.: White, of Louisiana, favoring the
expulsion of a Senator for refusing to vote
lie could not AFFORD, in the Senate of the
United states, to use the language OF the
bar room.
Mr.. Hill, in the absence of Mr.. White
thought the argument of Mr.. White only
went to the extent that If a Senator re-
mained in his seat when his name was
called, ana ala not answer he was guilty
OF disorderly conduct. And he was MOI
aware that that doctrine had been repudi
ated by any Senator.
Mr.. Palmer regarded Mr. Teller's motion
that his Creller's) name be entered as pres
ent on roll call when he did not answer
personal request. Mr.. Palmer went on
sarcastically, to remark that he had under
stood the Senate was courteous body, anC
that a personal request of a Senator was
always acceded to on the lofty ground OF
courtesy 1t was discreditable TO the Sen.
ator who made the request to debate it
Mr.. Palmer thereupon asked unanimou:
consent that the request be acceded to
When Senators Dubois, Allen and Butler
vigorously objected. Mr.. Palmer, in simu
tonishment. Oaughter.) My idol is broken
/ abandon the motion In despair" Q1augh
ter) AS Mr.. Palmer sat down an obstre
porous infant in the gallery tested its luns
power, and as its mother was carrying i
out of the gallery it u1.ereo pitiful wall
Listen to the echo OF my despair" saiC
Mr.. Palmer, and general laughter ensued.
Mr.. Quay gave notice Of amendment
to the repeal bill providing that the ac
shall take effect on Jan. l, 1896.
Mr.. Call opposed any change in the rules
and was followed by Mr.. Butler in an i'm
passioned argument against the proposi
tions of the Senator from New York (AIr
HID and the Senator from Texas (Air
Mills.) If their doctrines were correct. h.
said, why not make bonfire of the rule.
Of the Senate. He then read excerpts from
an article written by Mr.. Mills and pub
lshed in the North American Review o
December 1889, one of which read: 1.-THE
rules of the House are also intended, lik,
all other laws, TO protect the weak agains
the strong" And yet Mr.. Butler said
within three years from the time OF the
publica ton Of the article the Senators from
New York and Texas propose TO override
the limitations prescribed In the Constitu
ton and rules, and Ito railroad through
the Senate q motion TO change the rules,
10 enable, as was claimed, the majority q
transact business. 1T will never" salC
Mr. Butler with great earnestness, "b,
done with my consent"
Mr. Hill propounded TO Mr.. Butler tn,
question he had asked Mr.. Dubois-to poin
out how a vote could be reached on a bill
Mr. Butler replied that when the ma
jority found itself in that position, with
strong determined, sincere anxiety TO pas!
q bill, it would make some concession IL
order TO get Ii through. and If that wa.
not done the bill ought not pass.
THE SNAPPER" SCORES a POINT.
Then. If 1 understand" said Mr.. Hill
'1t is not the majority that passes a bill
in this body, and the bills passed do no
reflect the sentiment OF the majority, bu
of the minority?"
''Oh, no." dlssented Mr.. Butler.
'"The plain doctrine announced by th,
Senator from South Carolina is that th'
majority cannot pass a Dill because IL mus
always compromise with the minority