The herald., 1893-11-12
THE HAWAIIAN MUDOLE.
Gresham's Views Shared by
the President.
Public Opinion Condemns Their
Attitude.
The Proposed Restoration of the
Queen Deprecated.
1t Cannot Be Accomplished without
Much Blood sh ed-Consut Wilder
Experiences Disagree
able Surprise.
BY the Associated Press.

By the Associated Press.
WASHINGTON, Nov. IL james Hyde
Pratt of Albany is in the city. There is
family relationship between Presi-
dent Cleveland and Pratt, Ceyeland's
grandfather having been a brother to
Pratt's mother. Pratt has an acquaint-
ance with Cleveland, having often seen
him while he was at Albany ss gov
ernor OF New York. Pratt also has
family relationship in the Hawaiian
islands. and feels much exercised at the
policy towards the islands ennnciated
in Secretary Gresham's letter. He
drove out to Woodley this afternoon nj
had half an hours talk with ther
dent on the subject. As the resn y
learned that President Cleveland APP
proves thoroughly and wholly Gresh-
ANS letter and all contained in it.
DON'T AGREE WITH GRESHAM.
Pratt has lived much in the islands
and does not agree at all with Gresham's
ideas or belief as to the facts of the case.
He stated to the president that Gres-
hams letter read to him like the spe-
cial plea of an advocate for his case.
His statement that the deposition OF
the queen was accomplished by aliens is
sufficient to discredit the whole letter
to his mind, for he has knowledge
that most of the leaders of the revolu-
tion are Hawaiisn-born, and the parents
of many OF them were Hawaiian born. :
He urged also that the best natives ap-
proved the present government, and
only the disorderly element amongst
them desired its overthrow.
He stated to the president his belief
that in order to re-establish Queen Lili-
uokalani it would be necessary to dis
arm every white man in the islands. lie
did not believe the queen could be main
tanned on the throne day without the
influence OF armed iorces on authority OF
tthe United States. The present govern
ment, he argued, 10 in possession OF all
| the arms and power of authority. had
its forces well organized and disciplined.
and was able to maintain itself against
internal disturbances.
He then questioned the accuracy OF
the statement that Minister Stevens
and Captain Wil.se were Instruments.
in serving the revolutionists and that
the EucceHH of the revolution WAS de-
pendent upon the aid they rendered.
They did no more, he asserted, than was
authorized by the instructions OF Secre.
tary Bayard to Minister Merrill in July.
1887, for his guidance in a similar pc
riod of disorder.
WHO is BEST POSTED.
At this point the epresident asked Pratt
whether he thought ne had as good op-
portunity for information on the subject
as the president after careful investi-
cation and study of the subject for eight
months. Pratt re joiued that he thought
ne had, since be had been in intimate
relations by correspondence and other
wise with the islands tor over 3 ! years.
The president cloeed the interview by
saying he bad absolute faith in tae ac-
curacy OF all the conclusions drawn by
Gresham, and that Stevens and Captain
Willse committed an act OF usurpatlon
and had done wrong to helpless
power which it was the duty OF the
United States government to undo.
Pra t consented to relate the substance
OF his interview with President Cleve-
land for publication by the Associated
Press.
RETlCENT OFFICIALS.
cials are extremely reticsnt regarding
what action is to be taken to carry out
the policy announced by Secretary
Gresham in the Hawaiian question.
The navy department Processes to know
nothing OF any order issued TO carry out
the restoration of the queen, II the
United State minister has Instructions
to carry out the policy OF the government
he can cali upon the governments
naval forces to assist him, but in this
case that would devolve upon Minister
Willis the duty OF presenting his ere
dentials to the present government,
then proceeding to take steps to dspose
it from power. This embarrassment is
pointed out by persons conversant with
diplomatic methods as sufficient to pre-
clude that method OF procedure. Thereis
nearly equal embarrassment in another
possible course which has been suggest
ed, which is that Minlst,r Willis may
have been accredited to Queen L lina-
kalani herself and to the former gov
ernment. Gresham argues that the
provisional government expires by its
own limitation and that might involve
the ignoring OF the present government,
but the present government has been
equally recognized by the United States
as the government de jure.
These are only speculations, but are
suggested by persons we'll versed in such
questions.
WILLIS INSTRUCTIONS,
1t is probable that the instructions to
Minister Willis are to ascertain if the
provisional government of Hawaii will
consent to retire peaceaby and make
way for the restoration of Queen Liliuo.
kalani. II they refuse to yield thus.
Minister Willis will probably wait Tor
further instructions, Minister Willis
was due to arrive at Honolulu last Sat.
urday.
AVAILABLE wARsHlPs.
The United States are now represenlrv
at Honolulu by the flagship Philadel~
phia and the corvette Adams. They are
regarded as sufficient to enforce sny
contention Of this government. So far