The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1893-07-12
It Is Precipitated by a Conserva-
tive Member.
AN ANIMATED DEBATE.
Sexton, Anti-Parnellite, Is Compelled
to Withdraw from the House.
4 Course Pursued That Is Unprecedented
-Pandemonium ReiSns for While
Gladstone Appeals to Sexton to
Obey the Chairman.

LONDON, July 1.-THE commons in
committee continued this evening a dis
cussicn of clause nine of the home rule
bill. This clause concerns the question
of Irish representation at Westminster
Henry on-Karr, Conservative, moved
that Irish members of the imperial par
lament be elected for constituencies
which would elect an Irish legislative
council. Under this amendment the
Irish in the house of commons would de-
crease the number instead of eighty as
proposed by the bill.
John Morley, chief secretary for Ire
land, replied that the proposal was based
on no principle OF government and the
result merely of desire to curtail Irish
representation in the house and could not
be accepted by the government.
Sir Richard Temple, conservative for
Kingston division, Surrey, said even the
forty eight Irish members would be too
many.
VIM. Broderick, Conservative for Gull
ford division, Surrey, agreed with Sir
Richard. The I-ish were both 1mpecu-
NOUS and garrulous, and therein lay two
reasons for reducing the representation
in the house to minimum.
Thomas Sexton, anti ParneIlite for
North Kerry, interrupted Broderick to say
that such language was grossly imper-
tinent and ought not be tolerated in the
house. The union1sts should ''with-
draw and the Irish cheered.
Lord Randolph Churchill suggested
that Sexton withdraw his words as Brod-
erick's were not intended for him per-
sonally. The chairman told Sexton that
he was out of order and must withdraw
his expressions concerning Broderick's
speech.
Sexton expressed Willingness to obey
the chairman IN case Broderick first ex-
pressed regret.
Timothy HeaIy, anti-Parnellite from
North Louth, said he regretted Sexton's
attitude as quite unjustiTable. To call
| the Irish race impecunious and garrulous
was to insult every Irish member who
stood by his countrymen. The Irish
cheered, the Unionists shouted protests
and for two or three minutes the house
was in an uproar.
| Gladstone spoke few words in favor Of
the chairman's decision, but added that
the person striking the first blow ought
| to make the first overture for reconcilia-
ton.
Balfour, leader of the Unionists, said
that acting under his advice his honor
able friend (Broderick) refused to apollo
gize.
The chairman turned appealingly to
| Sexton.
ppm willing to do anything consistent
with duty to please the prime minister, -
Sexton said, "but considering the grav-
| ity of the insult offered my countrymen,
l have decided not to make an apology
l submit myself to the Judgment OF the
committee. Loud cheers greeted this
| statement.
The chairman hesitated and finally or
dered Sexton to withdraw.
Sexton shouted back: 'tSuch course
is unprecedented. Why am 1 not named
and my conduct submitted to the
house?;' Irish cheers, unionists' shouts
and cries of ''Divide" followed this chal-
lenge.
and repeated his order that Sexton with
draw. Sexton again refused and the
Irish cried fDon't withdraw
The chairman then explained the
standing order concerning the suspension
OF member disregarding the authority
of the chair. The last words were almost
taken from his mouth by Timothy Hesiy,
whe exclaimed: 'This is a shame. 1t
never has been done before.'
The uproar then became terrible. Glad
ston9 appealed TO Sexton to obey the
chairman. Sexton replied with evident
reluctance that he would leave his defense
with the prime minister. AS he retired
the Irish jumped on benches, waved
their hats and cheered ferociously.
After Frederick withdrew his statement
that the Irish were garrulous and imDe-
cunious, and order was restored, Seton
Harris amendment, which had been quite
lost to view in the hubbub, was then re-
iected by a vote of 251 to 2i9. Subse-
|. quently, on a motion to adjourn, Timothy
Healy appealed to the speaker to appeal
against Chairman Mellor's treatment OF
Sexton. The speaker, however, sup
ported Mellor's decision.