The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1893-01-10
One Hundred and Sixty Third
Day.
THURSDAY, Jan. 5th.


Day.
THURSDAY, Jan. 5th.
The House met at A. NJ. Eigh
members present. Quorum at go,
AM. The minutes were read and ap
proved.
STANDING COMMITTEES.
Rep. Waipuilani reported Bill 29e
as printed.
The HAwIIAN GAZETTE calendars
for 1898 were then distributed among
the members.
RESOLUTIONS.
Rep. Nawahi asked whether Noble
Williams had left any word as to his
returning.
The President said that Noble Will
liams had left a communication say
ing that he would not return during
the present session.
Minister Wilcox announced that
Bill IA, an Act to establish Bureau of
Agriculture and Forestry, had been
signed by the Queen.
The same Minister presented reply
to question of Rep. Pua regarding the
Government fisheries of Keehi, to
the effect that the fisheries of Lele-
kapu, Kaihikapu and Keehi belong
ed to the Government. The reply was
signed by ]. F. Brown, of the Survey
Department.
Rep. Pua moved that a copy of the
reply be furnished him, and that it be
also published in the papers, to settle
disputes among fishermen.
Minister Brown said that if Keehi
was Government property, he would
advise all to go and fish there.
Noble Thurston moved that Elec-
trio Franchise bill be the order for the
afternoon. Carried.
The House proceeded at 9:42A. NJ. to
the
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Third reading of Bill 223, Postal
Savings Bank. Passed.
Third reading of Bill 240, Protection
of Forests.
Rep. Nawahi opposed the bill.
Noble Thurston explained that the
object of the bill was to protect the
beautiful drive along the Volcano
road, through the jungle to the Vol
cano. Itwas the most beautiful drive
in creation, which would be DESTROYED
if the forests on either side were cut
down. The forest laws of Germany
prevented even the owners of private
lands from cutting trees on their own
premises without permission of Gov
ernment. He moved an amendment
to Section ., modifying it.
Rep. Nawahi still opposed the bill |
because Hilo is such rainy district, |
because of the forests, and the removal |
of several thousand trees would be |
beneficial to the health of residents |
there.
Noble Thurston's amendment was
carried.
The bill then passed the third read
ing.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
Second reading of Bill 235, Loan
Act.
Rep. Kamaueha favored S5,OOO,OOO
loan.
Rep. Pua moved that Section / be
to a committee.
Rep. r. w. Wilcox asked the |
Cabinet when the u per cent. bonds
would be due?
Minister Brown replied that the II /
per cent. bonds held by the Board of |
Education were due now. The Gov
ernment could redeem the London
loan of S1,000,00O in 1896.
Minister Jones held it would be a
to make any attempt for re-
funding the debts now.
Minister Brown called the attention
of Rep. Nawahi to the fact that the
Appropriation Bill had been signed,
and no provision had been made for
floating S5,OOO,OOO.
Rep. Nawahi replied that the Legis-
lature could make laws any time to
pay for expenses of floating the re-
quired S5,OOO,0OO loan.
Minister Jones explained that $780,
300 of the amount would be floated
abroad, while S250,000 could be dis
posed OF in this kingdom.
Mob. Horner said that he favored
S75O,OOO, as it was absolutely unneces-
sary to ask for loans more than the
bill called for. He had hoped that
the Cabinet would only ask for
100000. If we always borrow and
never pay, we shall endanger our in
dependence. Other nations had lost
heir independence by borrowing.
The case of Egypt should be a warn
ng to the people of Hawaii. The
of Tunis should be another
example to us. Foreigners
IRE running these governments to