New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1893-07-22
home RULE AND FINANCE.
THE NEW CLAUSE OF THE BILL TAKEN Up
IN THE COMMONS.
Mr.. CHAMBEELAIN'S OBJECTIONS TO IRELAND's
RECEIVING SURpLUs-;PEECHEs OF


RECEIVING sUEpLUs-;PEECHEs OF
MEssRs. FOWLER AND REDMOND.
London, July o1.-ln the House of Commons to-day
Mr.. Gladstone moved consideration OF the financial
clause OF the Home Rule BILL the only clause TO be
discussed before passage OF the bill by the House.
The motion adopted, and the House went into
Committee Of the Whole.
Joseph Chamberlain, the Liberal Unonst leader,
objected to TIE provision that certain surplus of
money should be given ireland. That country. he
declared, ought not to receive any surplus. Ireland
called upon to pay too little and Great Britain
too much The estimates. being based upon n years
returns, could not be regarded equitable Mr..
Chamberlain said that he dreaded dminuton Of
Ircand's tribute In the future which, together with
probable Increase Of the Imperial expenditures. would
cast increased burdens the British taxpayer. Tie
plan proposed by the Government would also alter
the Imperial budget by dcpriving Britain OF the
proper control OF her taxation Ii would deprive
the Irish OF all freedom of action regarding financial
Matters and would induce constant conflicts between
ireland and Great Britain. He admitted that the
proposal that any special tax-for instance, a war
levy-Shoud be imposed Ireland the same Great
Britain, a much better one than the proposal on
the same subject contained in The Home Rule bin
OF 1856. But the basis OF the whole scheme. he
maintained, indefcnsiblc, since under it Ireland
would pay c543 900 less than She pays now. and
OF money, Mr.. Chamberlain declared. the price
that the British were asked pay for Irish Home
Rule.
Henry Fowler president OF the Local Government
Board, said that in fixing the future charges TO be
paid by Ireland 1t essential TO regard the subject
from the point OF the common Interests Of the two
countries, since Ireland would not TO be an in
tceral part of the United Kingdom. lrclands con
uibuOn would amount TO one thirt yscvcnth OF the
Imperial expenditures. Suppose the Home Rule bill
should he defeated! Great Britain would still have
TO grant subventions 10 railways and other public
works. which would cost quite much the pro
posed surplus that TO go TO Ireland. Ireland was
a poor country. lie convinced that the British
would deal generously and literally with her. especially
during the first years Of the new Government.
John Redmond (Tamellite). Member for Waterford
City. said that ne regretted that the scheme not
liberal and more just. II was hnmila'ing Ia
ireland be deprived Of all control Of the collection
period ought not 10 be more than oncquaIter Of hes
income. She did not want In the future, rs in the
past, be robbed because Of her connection with
Great Britain This declaration elected cheers from
the Irish members.
Continuing. MIR. Redmond said that experience would
show that the scheme was unjust. \ EOyal Com
mission had been promised. and il ought Ia be APP
pointed forthwith. II would doubtless show that the
proposals needed great notifications.